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[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I'm also a long time AB visitor and never been in HK bar I was wonder the same thing, I know there's a difference in chica fees compare to AB $70-up and some go with you to the room and some don't, what about that $20 dance is that just a lap dance?
Is there anyway to know who's a provider and who's just a dancer? [/QUOTE]With one hand, put your index finger to your thumb to make a hole. With the other hand, use the index finger and slide it in and out of the hole. Show this to a gal and smile.
Just kidding.
They all go up. The difference is that they generally make ok money from dancing and drinking so they're more choosy. I notice one girl making a load of money just walking to all the guys and asking for a dollar. For some reason, they all gave her a dollar. Smart girl.
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[QUOTE=Vitrea]What is the name of the bar your friend took you to? Are the girls any good?[/QUOTE]
On the Otay side stay away from the Maruba. They pester you to buy beer and chica fechas. I passed by the club today but can't remember the name. It may be the closest club to garita de otay.
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[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I'm also a long time AB visitor and never been in HK bar i was wonder the same thing, I know there's a difference in chica fees compare to AB $70-up and some go with you to the room and some don't, what about that $20 dance is that just a lap dance?
Is there anyway to know who's a provider and who's just a dancer?[/QUOTE]
Lap dance is not a deal unless she allows you to finger her and make out with her and let your hands fully roam. Some of the older (30+ years) dancers will give you a bj for $40 in the booth.
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[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]This is where you use the ficha. I would recommend that you catch a girls eye, smile, and say, "te puedo invitar a una cerveza? " [Can I invite (buy) you to a beer? ]
I recommend that you try it in Spanish, but it really doesn't matter, they will understand you. Chat her up for a bit, get a feel for what she is going to be like in bed, and then see what you can get her upstairs for ($$).
I think of that first ficha as a timer (like sands through the hour glass) because you are trying to figure out if she is going to be any fun or not, before the pinche waiter pressures you to buy a second, or you decide to look around some more.
The difference that I see between AB and HK, is that AB has some aggressive ass cougars that are well past retirement age.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice sir!
I will try it next time.
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The difference with HK and AB is the main reason why I usually end up in AB. I'm no Mr. Smooth who can go up to any girl and start a chat. I've done it but not too frequently. The women in AB are more aggressive than most other bars and being a seasoned vet of this bar I've come accustomed to this. Any girl I like I simply have to make eye contact and before I know it, they're already sitting next to me rubbing my Mr. Happy.
In HK it's more like a regular pick up bar in that you have to make the move. The few women I have been with from HK was because they came up to me those are rare. At least for me. To make it easier, if you see a girl you like and she's alone you can get the waiter to bring her over. It helps if you know spanish cause you don't want to confuse the waiter and have him bring over the wrong girl and the face the awkwardness of turning that girl away.
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[QUOTE=Party God]Can someone please describe the best way to approach a Chica at HK? I am a long time AB client, but when I walk into HK I see a different atmosphere. Is it the same as AB in that one just talks to one of the chicas who are not already with someone? [/QUOTE]Are you serious about asking how to get laid in a "house of I'll repute"?
Just ask for what you want!
Be polite but just ask. There are no virgins there. They all know basically why you are in the place. They are there to make money.
It is "temporarily" your money so at least attempt to get who/what you want personally.
It would be very hard to embarrass the chicas, considering where you are and everyone knows the score, just be polite.
There are aggressive chicas and non aggressive chicas in most the clubs.
How the chicas will act towards you will always vary for anybody.
I have had night and day differences from chicas from one night to the next.
One chica would who I wanted would not accept a drink with me but when I came back a couple hours later she almost broke her leg getting to me.
Women!
Some of it will have to do with the chica herself at the time and some of it will have to do with how you are perceived by them at that time.
It is very impolite to approach a chica who is obviously with someone else anywhere. If the chica you desire is "temporarily occupied", you can either wait and hope she does not get scooped up before she gets to you or tell the waiter that you are interested in the chica (recommended). Waiters are more than "mobile bartenders" so utilize their assets.
Why be shy? Be polite!
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[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I'm also a long time AB visitor and never been in HK bar i was wonder the same thing, I know there's a difference in chica fees compare to AB $70-up and some go with you to the room and some don't, what about that $20 dance is that just a lap dance?
Is there anyway to know who's a provider and who's just a dancer?[/QUOTE]
IMHO the $20 dances are a waste of money, but to each his own.
DO NOT even THINK about forking over $70 - $80 or more to any HK chica. Lots of the night shift will feed you the line that they're more expensive. Don't buy into it. It's a buyer's market now.
As far as finding out who goes up, just ask.
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[QUOTE=Party God]Can someone please describe the best way to approach a Chica at HK? I am a long time AB client, but when I walk into HK I see a different atmosphere. Is it the same as AB in that one just talks to one of the chicas who are not already with someone?[/QUOTE]
If they're dancing, tip 'em then offer to buy 'em a drink. If they "like" you, they'll stop and sit with you. If they're not dancing, chat for a minute, offer a drink, and chat some more. Good way to practice your Spanish.
AB is way too gringo-ified. I really can't think of any Latin American bars I've been to where the girls come up to you the way they do in AB. AFAIK, it's really not considered "proper" (for lack of a better term) for the girl to throw themselves at the guy. There are certainly exceptions.
As difficult as it may seem to go up to a girl sitting at the bar in LC, for instance, it's really noting like the States. It's more like shooting fish in a barrel. The girls in the Zona are hoping you'll pick them out of the crowd. In the States, they're looking for reasons to say no, preferably with an ego-crushing insult! :)
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Hong Kong Club Strategy
Good advice in this thread from several guys. I'll throw my oar in too.
The Adelita Bar has reduced the transaction to its essentials. Often the girl propositions you, and even if they wait to be approached striking a deal is simple. You sidle up next to a girl, exchange a few pleasantries, and 30 seconds later you're headed upstairs. I realize lots of guys deride the Adelita Bar as a fuck factory. But on some of my Zona Norte trips that's exactly what I want and it turns me on to know that five minutes after I finish my beer some hotty is going to be sucking my hard dick. As Erica Jong explained, the zipless fuck is the purest thing there is.
At the Hong Kong Club there's more foreplay. And usually that involves spending some time with the girl. There are evenings when I'm in the mood for that, and I enjoy tipping the girls, flirting a little bit, and sitting down for a drink. Cuddling in a booth adds a little girlfriend vibe, with the added benefit of mutual touching that's almost certain to be hotter than the last time you were out with your sweetie in a public place.
When I want to go upstairs with one of the Hong Kong girls I'm careful not to get ficha fucked. I'm happy to buy her a couple of drinks. But we need to reach what diplomats call an agreement in principle before I'll buy any more. If she's not willing to go up, the waiter gets waived off on his next pass. Ditto if she says OK, but I'm getting the starfish vibe from her.
Sometimes, however, I'm just tuning up and it doesn't matter if the girl is willing to go upstairs. If she's sweet I'm happy to drink and cuddle in the booth. If she's nasty I'll pay for a private dance. I'm usually able to negotiate two songs for $20, and if it's slow some girls will dance three. I'm not trying to get off in the booth. I'm just trying to get as much mileage as I can, which can be fun. Sometimes the girl does such a good job on the privado that I'll negotiate for a session to take place later.
Bunky
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Thanks for ol the info!
BTW, maybe someone can explain the private booth dance deal a little better?
Is it worth the $20, is every girl the same way in the private dance I mean can you finger, kiss, bite, chew it up, slap it etc, etc.. for a 20? :D
Now that I remember I can get a SG for the same 20 bucks?
It sounds to me like HK is overpriced Am I wrong?
I guess AB is a different animal, I had girls come to me and straight out ask me if I want to F..K, that's too much to rough for my taste, I like the soft feminine approach and say hi first what's your name and the rest of the blah, blah B.S.
I guess AB is more like a glory hole!
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[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Is there anyway to know who's a provider and who's just a dancer? [/QUOTE]The girls wearing the sashes that say "Edecan" (model) are still in training. They have a tendency to be more selective, and may say they don't do upstairs, but I think the common consensus is that they do go up stairs, it is just going to cost you more, in time and money. These are the girls that you do not want to directly approach, and give them a low ball offer for sex, without warming them up first, or at least getting them drunk.
Just remember that each girl's situation is different. Some really need the money, some just want to party, and some are really fiending to get high. You need to get a read for what each chick is about, and what her situation is like that day.
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[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I guess AB is a different animal, I had girls come to me and straight out ask me if I want to F..K, that's too much to rough for my taste, I like the soft feminine approach and say hi first what's your name and the rest of the blah, blah B.S..[/QUOTE]That is so sweet ,you're such a romantic :D
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Now that I remember I can get a SG for the same 20 bucks?
It sounds to me like HK is overpriced Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]As far as getting a lap dance verses a SG, I agree with you.
Some people want the foreplay though.
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[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]That is so sweet ,you're such a romantic :D
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I have to admit I am a gentleman and I like to be nice to the girls sometimes the trick works and I get specials or extras I say making love not sex :D
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[QUOTE=Bunky]When I want to go upstairs with one of the Hong Kong girls I'm careful not to get ficha fucked. I'm happy to buy her a couple of drinks. But we need to reach what diplomats call an agreement in principle before I'll buy any more. If she's not willing to go up, the waiter gets waived off on his next pass. Ditto if she says OK, but I'm getting the starfish vibe from her.
Bunky[/QUOTE]Can't agree more. I buy the first drink of their choice at AD, CC or HK, the second one if its within a 1/2 hour of the first is a beer (cerveza solamente). Lets see her pound that second drink just as fast.
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[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]The girls wearing the sashes that say "Edecan" (model) are still in training. They have a tendency to be more selective, and may say they don't do upstairs, but I think the common consensus is that they do go up stairs, it is just going to cost you more, in time and money. These are the girls that you do not want to directly approach, and give them a low ball offer for sex, without warming them up first, or at least getting them drunk.
Just remember that each girl's situation is different. Some really need the money, some just want to party, and some are really fiending to get high. You need to get a read for what each chick is about, and what her situation is like that day.[/QUOTE]From my experience, the girls in sashes are genuinely surprised when you start negotiating.
I don't think they're used to it.