Papagayo's Christmas Fiesta
Papagayo's had their Christmas Fiesta/Posada on Tuesday Dec. 9. I did not go. I was in Papa's on Saturday night Dec. 6. Violeta told me that the Christmas Fiesta was Martes/Tuesday Dec. 9. Talked to several Meseros and they confirmed the Fiesta.
I have attended seven previous Fiestas at Papa's from 2004 to 2007. Their Fiestas are always on a Tuesday night. Mi no comprende why Papagayo's always has their Fiestas on a Tuesday night. Papa's is continuing the deceased owner of Papagayo's tradition of Fiestas on Martes/Tuesday night. This is the first Christmas Fiesta Papagayo's has had since the owner La Patrona Ophellia died. She was 84 when she passed away in 2007 shortly after the Fiesta de Carnival which was held on Feb. 20, 2007. Papagayo's did not have any more Fiestas in 2007 after La Patrona passed away.
I was in Papagayo's this past Saturday night Dec. 13. I asked Miguel the Mesero about the Fiesta. He told me they had a pretty good crowd for the Fiesta.
Nuevo Laredo Guide for Big Red
[quote=go big red]so downtown is not boy's town? forgive my ignorance, i haven't been to laredo in at least 5 years. i'm thinking about just getting a hotel near the bridge and just walking over.[/quote]i apologize for pasting this very well written guide but i was unable to find it so i could link to it.
jackson, sorry, man. this is so good it is worth posting again.
red, you absolutely want to also check out bt. just watch out for the tranny pick-pockets.
bt for newbies
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guys, this was a direct answer to some of one of the new guys questions. this is the time of year that several new guys come on here and start asking questions. so i thought i would also post this here so maybe it would clear a few things up before hand.
really though, i figure your driving, so when your heading south on i35, you will want to take the washington/scott exit. i can't remember exactly which one of 'em it is, but make a right at the secone light. i'm pretty sure it's scott. anyway, it's a one-way street and you will want to stay in the left hand lane. your gonna go about 5 or 6 streets down, and your looking for santa maria (i think it's the first two-way that you come to, but i might be wrong). turn left on santa maria and head south until you go under what looks like a bridge, but i think it's part of the mall. keep going stright and turn left into the parking lot. it's going to cost $8.00 per 24 hours, but your car is safe there. i try to park close to the booth if i can.
after grabbing your shit, and locking your vehicle, you will want to head for the stairs that you will see. once you get up the stairs, it becomes pretty self explanatory where to go. buy your 50 cent ticket to cross the bridge and head around the corner and "follow the crowds". once you get throught the last checkpoint on the mexico side you will come to a street corner. keep going straight, but be careful crossing the street, they will run your ass over. you will now be on guerrero headed south. there will be many guys along guerrero waiting to "help" you. guides, touts, thieves, dealers, pimps, whatever you want to call them, you don't need their help. just act like you been ther before, tell them you know where your going and keep walking. sometimes they will follow, but they get the picture pretty quick.
now, it is my suggestion, as most on here will suggest, that you stay in mexico. my favorite hotel is hotel fiesta (not the fiesta inn hotel, but we'll discuss that later). keep going straight on guerrero and you will see hidalgo street, and the pino suarez. i usually make a left at hidalgo and walk to the next street which is ocampo. make a right on ocampo and the hotel will be one block ahead on the left. fiesta is not the nicest hotel in nl by far, but it is clean, chica friendly, and right in the middle of the down town action. right now fiesta will cost you $38 or $410 pesos for a double room. if you plan on getting daytime action downtown, you will want to get seperate rooms. if you need tv, make sure the remote works, the buttons have been pulled off oof most of the tvs. room 101 is the best, and cleanest, but good look getting that room, you have to call ahead and reserve it, sometimes a few weeks in advance. all the other rooms are passable, with the rooms upstairs being cleaner, although less convenient. now your in your room, do what you gotta do to get ready. i think it's probably about 7 1/2 hours drive from where your at, so take a shower, maybe catch a nap, whatever. then get ready to head out.
time of day is going to dictate what you do next. if it is late in the evening, you will probably want to head straight out to boystown. if it's earlier in the day, you might want to check out the downtown club action.
if your going to check out the downtown club action, you will want to exit the hotel and make a right. go back down to hidalgo and right across the street you will the "herradura" or "horseshoe" club. i always check it out first, as it;s the closest to the hotel. one thing that has not been stressed enough on here about the downtown action is "have patience", you have the give the bars some time. often there will be no good looking chicas when you first walk in. the downtown girls then to make a circuit of several clubs, and also then to arrive at any time of the day. given time, they will eventually show up at the bar you are at. i give each bar at least two beers. if nothing that catches your eye walks into "herradura" yet, then go check out "montera".
to get to montera, walk out of herradura make a right, then another right down hidalgo towards guerrero. walk across guerrero and on the left hand side you will see stairs that lead down to montera. it's actually underground, so you walk down the stairs to the bar. montera is usually very crowded, and loud. there are a couple of pretty cool guys that hang out in there that will translate for you, but you shouldn't need them. i usually give montera a 4 beer minimum. give it time, the girls will come. try like hell to get a booth, they are more comfortable, and give a better vantage point of the bar. also, try to sit where you can watch the door and see whats coming in.
when you see a girl you like, invite her for a drink "quierda bebida?" pronounced "kee-air-dah bay-bee-dah?", means "would you like a drink?". the girl will usually call the waiter or "mesero" pronounced "meh-sed-oh", and place her order. her drink is going to cost you $2.50, i think, while your own drink was $1.50, and hers is half the size, go figure. anyway, if you speak spanish, your good, but i don't really, and i do okay. ask the girl if she wants to go to the your room. make sure to emphasize "your" room, or "mi cuarto", but just make sure that she understands that you have your oen room and will not be making use of the $10 short time hotel upstairs. make sure she knows what you want, ie. blowjob "sucky", fuck "fucky", and so on, and for how long, usually 1 hour "una hora". once she knows what you want, settle on a price. it will be between $30-$50, but don't pay more than $50, unless you are negotiating for something special such as anal "sexo anal".
don't walk back to your hotel with the girl. prostitution is "illegal" downtown. you will want to walk back to your room, and she will be there a few minutes later, don't worry about giving directions, she knows where it is. when she gets there, she will want to get right down to business. it is up to you to make sure that you get everything you negotiated for. be a man about it, but don't be an asshole about it. i usually put the money on top of the tv and let them know that they can have it when you are done, not when they are done. i also usually insist the the girl take a quick shower (they usually do anyway), bbut that's because i like to daty, and enjoy the freshness of a newly washed cooch. now you can conduct your business, do it well, if you treat them right they will reciprocate. the girls will the collect her money, and you can decide at this time whether she should get a tip or not, usually not, but every once in a while, a girl will rock your world.
i don't really recommend the downtown scene for your friends first time. then again, i don't really recommend mexico at all for your friends first time. i just don't think any of the girls in mexice are going to care enough to make it special like it should be. if you insist on letting him pop his cherry in mexico, then you will want to go to boystown. i would definately try to hook up with an experience mexico monger, on this one. they can point out the girls that would be most likely to provide an excellent service for your friends first time.
when your ready to go to bt, you will want to walk south on guerrero until you get to one of the plazas, there will most likely be several cabs around the plaza. grab one of them and say boystown, or la zona. make sure it's $10. it will never be less, but if you don't make sure ahead of time, the driver might try to hike the price up on you when you get there. do this coming home too. the driver will want to take you to pappagayos. this is okay, the driver does et compensated for bringing customers, but i have never noticed any difference in the prices that i am charged. pappa's is the first club you will want to check out anyway. grab a table and order your favorite beverage. beer will be $2.00. while checking out the club and getting your bearings, you will probably have to fight off a few of the older and more agressive girls in there. actually they can be pretty cool to talk to, if you don't mind buying them a drink, just make sure they know that your not interested in taking them to the room.
look around for a while and don't make a choice too fast. always give it at lease 30 minutes before making a choice. remember, the best looking girls are not hanging out in the bar. they are in the back, plying their trade. you have to give them time to get done and come back to the bar. everything else works lie downtown except: 1. you don't take the girl back to your room, you go to a room there at the club, they are very clean at pappa's, and it will cost you $20 for the hour plus $2 for condom and towels. 2. the prices here will vary from $50 for a hog, to $80 for som top notch pussy. some of the girls will ask for $100 plus the room, but if hear of you paying that amount, i will find and kill you. the best girls will go for $100 total (including room), and sometimes $80 totaldepending in how much she likes you. make sure when negotiating a price she knows everything your interested in. everything cost more to negotiate once your in the room. if you want something special, don't wait to ask, get the price up front or it will cost double or triple in the room (example: for girls that anal is on the menu at all, usually figure to add about $20 to the bill. if you wait until your in the heat of the moment she's going to ask for $50 or more. trust me, i been there).
if you don't see anything you like at pappa's, you may decide to take a walk around the compound. these days there are only a few clubs of interest, and even fewer of interest for the newbie. you can walk around and check out the door girls. don't go down the dark back street. ther is nothing of interest back there. and watch yourself on the last street to thew left. that street is for locals and trannies. watch your wallet, the trannies canbe quick. to be honest, they trannies haven't been that bad the last few trips, but still, you have been warned. the two middle streets, and the front and back streets that connect them are the ones of interest. walk around and look at all the room girls. if you see one you like, it will be $10 for straight, hike up the dress, sex. add $10 for bj and $10 more for full boat nude "sin ropas".
on the street that heads straight back from pappa's you will see 4 clubs. maribu is on the right. it's worth a look, but there is rarely anyhting going on there. it's wierd that it is the largest and nicest club in the compound, but nothing going on. that's something that has been discussed to no end on here. the place needs new management, could be really nice, and fun.
on the right you will see tamyko (japanese looking place). tamyco is worth a look, and sometimes you can find a nice girls in there. usually though, just a bunch of old ladies. then there is martha's (the donkey show). maybe poke your head in, but known for trannies and cows, so don't expect much, every once in a while though there is a nice on in there, so i always look. the last club on the street is la cosita (i think) or la cosa. either way, there hasn't been anything going on there the las few trips anyway, and the place is well known for rip-offs.
on the next street over to the left you will find two decent strip clubs right on front street. the dragon azul is usually okay, and sometimes you can find some pretty hot new chicas in there. accross the street is pullman club. they are going to want a dollar to get in, but don't pay it. just tell them never mind when they ask for a cover and they will let you in for free. the girls in here can run from super hot to super not. give pullman a try. the on the back street, you will find the best club, especially for newbies. danash, is a fairly ameriacan style strip club, only better. here is where the best looking girls in nlbt work, but here is also where they charge the most. i definately recommend danash, but don't go crazy, or it can cost you a bunch.
here is a breakdown of prices.
club: drinks: chica drinks: sexo:
pappa's $2.00 $2.00 $50-$80 + $20 for room 1 hr.
maribu same same $40-$?? + $?? for room, been a while since i been with a girl there.
pullman $3.00 $8.00+ $50-$80 + $10 or $15 for room
dragon $2.00 $? $40-$60 + $10 (i think) for room
tamyco $2.00 $? $40-$60 + $50 for room
danash $3.00 $10.00+ $100-$120 + $10 for room
room girls $10-$40+ depending on what you want
after a while you are goinhg to get hungry. i suggest don luis taco stand, right outside of pappa's. the tacos there are second to none. try the green sauce if you are adventurous. the tacos will be $1.00 each, and you can get a coke for $1.00 or a beer or $2.00. excellent food after a night of driking and fucking. i have seen some of the locals come to bt just to buy tacos and leave.
one other thing, and this is my biggest pet peeve. the quarter thing. basically, until the waiters get to know you, they will try to get an extra dollar tip by hiding 4 quarters under the rest of your change. a lot of guys leave one dollar in the tray, not realizing that there is another dollar in quarters under it. always pick up all your change and if the quarters are there leave them. if they are not there then tip the waiter whatever you want. i have gotten to the point that if the waiters try the quarter thing with me, i pick them up and the waither gets nothing. if they don't do it, the get a dollar tip. most of them know me and don't do it. pappa's waiters do this the most, so watch 'em.
i hope this has been helpful and not too rambling. have fun, act cool. don't be the asshole american. try to fit in. be nice, unless someone tries to cheat you, and then stand up for yourself. like vince said, if the cops try to shake you down (never happened to me in 10 years), don't pay them a bribe. instead demand to be taked before a judge and you will pay him the fine. they will leave you alone after that. you shouldn't have any problems, unless your stupid, or an asshole.
oh, and read the sign above the pisser in pappa's, it's a classic.
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