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[QUOTE=TheCane;2001825]I know the shock of which you speak. It used to happen to me a lot when I first started mongering, but over the years I've learned to deal with it. I mean, I'm just able to draw this hard line, and I act accordingly depending on which side of the line I'm on. Mongering life over here. Regular life over there. And never the two shall meet!
I remember what happened the one time when I didn't abide by this rule and allowed my guard to slip. It was about 6 years ago, and I had been on a trip to Brazil. Living it up! Eating good food, drinking good beer, and fucking the daylights out of those fine young ladies! What the hell else does a man want or need LOL? Once the trip concluded, I immediately had to go on some business travel. In the evening, I found myself in a bar / dance place with lots more of them fine young ladies. Well, still feeling on an euphoric high from the mongering Brazil trip, I approached one of those fine young things to try to dance with her, but she shook her head no and waived my ass off hahaha!
Said to myself afterwards, "You just got what you deserved! Where do you think you are? In Brazil fucking with the tutes? Hell no, your ass is here back in the US of A! Where that older guy (creep) coming on to that younger girl just doesn't play in Peoria! You just got clowned dumb ass because you didn't remember where you were and act accordingly, and that the two sides must always be kept separate. Never, ever let that happen again. " And I have not either.[/QUOTE]At least you did not approach that lady in bar dancing with 50 Euro bill on your hand LOL!
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2002060]Hey mr Piston,
NRW was good and as for service, I got to say NRW is much better as rumored.
My favorite club was oceans actually. I have to say it was so shit till 7PM ish then LU had few stunner, one of them was eleney and other one was polish model type girl. But in oceans most girls are not good, but good stunner in oceans.
GT was good as well, but it really is summer club, I got sick after going to GT going outside for session in cabin rooms outside and to restaurant. Back and forth in cold weather and warm inside you know.
Living room is not my FKK, it was horrible, but good service.[/QUOTE]Mr Ho, we answered all your questions and all we get is this? How about some extensive reporting on the respective threads?
Yeah, I like GT in the summer. People head out to the garden, lessens the crowds in the lounge. I like the cabins, that's one of the biggest charms of the place. Like going out to nature and fucking in the cabins!
Why do yall Atemis guys have the same damn taste in clubs? The sharky ones. It's like when other clubs become sharkier, yall sniff it out and head for them. LOL.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2002060]My favorite club was oceans actually. LU had few stunner, one of them was eleney and other one was polish model type girl
[/QUOTE]She was hot, best looking chick at Oceans. I'm pretty confident that she is objectively a smokin hot babe.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2002392]Mr Ho, we answered all your questions and all we get is this? How about some extensive reporting on the respective threads?
Yeah, I like GT in the summer. People head out to the garden, lessens the crowds in the lounge. I like the cabins, that's one of the biggest charms of the place. Like going out to nature and fucking in the cabins!
Why do yall Atemis guys have the same damn taste in clubs? The sharky ones. It's like when other clubs become sharkier, yall sniff it out and head for them. LOL.[/QUOTE]Well, I could write all the names, but I do not remember many and what good does it do LOL.
It is not like that I am hiding but I remember very few names as I went to each club one or max two days. But Kiti at GT and Eleny at oceans and some other girls I considered stunner was good. Rest I can tell you nationality and how she looks, but it get into this was it such and such etc. LOL.
However, this is my general opinion on NRW.
All clubs are not hat bad to get to by train and bus if you organize and that include GT, but GT last train is at 9 and 10 PM, so you better leave club earlier than those time and sometimes taxi took 10 minutes to come after reception call.
GT is the over all best club, but for stunner level I liked oceans, but never goto oceans before 6 PM. Worst LU, after 6 PM stunner began to walk in to floor, there were two or three stunner, one is eleny and other one was polish model type, other one I do not know.
Service wise all clubs are much better in NRW than any other places I went. I got good DFK include good sessions just for 50 sometimes, when I did one hour not much changed in service, just longer.
Living room is not my thing, but I began to get fever by the time I got to living room, and day before, so I was not active at all. Still the service was good there, really good, I went with krina or something like that there, Romanian blond with sister.
I bumped into really nice guy, but for his privacy I hide his online name as he is on this forum, it was first time I met anyone and it was good memory.
Haha Artemis guys like me like just stunner type and do not mind sharkiness, so I for instance really like LU at palace, I always found good stunner there at palace, yes it is gladiator type sharky clubs, but I can always talk and negotiate and it is fine at palace, but forget going just 30 min and get good sessions at palace in general, it happened few times, but usually 50 euro at palace is not good result LOL.
I wonder how Artemis is now as this was first time I did not fly into Berlin, last time was horrible LU at Artemis.
I tend to like shaky club for stunners LU like Artemis, palace and in NRW oceans.
FKK oceans has stunner, and service is below other NRW club I went, but I did get good sessions out, but I went one hour and they did mention one hour for good service, no upsell for prices though. Sessions were good, but oceans were more sharky club than others in NRW I thought with stunner level more to my taste, just 2 or 3 stunner in about 50 girls there at peak time.
I guess Artemis guys has similar taste, but I really liked GT, but since I got sick there quick, I have to say it really is summer club and it is rather busy clubs where you got to fight for stunners.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2002426]She was hot, best looking chick at Oceans. I'm pretty confident that she is objectively a smokin hot babe.[/QUOTE]There is another polish one that is also model type hot, but she is shark, but no upsell in price, but wanted go for one hour. I do not know her name though.
I like the set up of oceans, with GT I got bit sick after first day as I was smoking legally tolerated green thing venlo harvest outside on sofa, even with blanket, I caught mild fever that got worst as days went on and I could not do many sessions due to slight cold. I just got better few days ago.
But man, NRW do have better service as standard.
I thought about what is it with me and more shark clubs. , well this is my conclusion, more shark the club is more quality of stunners to my taste of beauty.
I do not know how accurate is my finding, but it tend to be that way. All the best looking stunner I found was always in palace, Artemis, oceans, you know more shark club, but again I only got 6 or 7 years of FKK experience.
Hmmm. I hear Hamburg FKK is good, there are many stunners there? Are they either Hungarian or German stunners there?
I like German and Hungarian and polish.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2002392]
Why do yall Atemis guys have the same damn taste in clubs? The sharky ones. It's like when other clubs become sharkier, yall sniff it out and head for them. LOL.[/QUOTE]Perhaps my fortune in life will lie in starting up a go-pro camera for use in brothels company. That way guys like you will realize upsells are not that bad in clubs like artemis and oceans either. You just got to get to know the places and how to navigate.
But personally I have a feeling the differences in clubs are not as big as some say. GT reviews here on the forum was all about low upsells. Then I check it out, and I see more upsells there than at Palace 2 years ago. Fishy I'd say. I think the initial rooms in new clubs are luck based. Afterwards you will get some points by the girls because they think you might become a regular, and maybe in average give you better service... just a theory...
Mr.Ho: Good to hear Eleny Grande has been making money singing some karaoke microphones lately. She does have talent, and maybe also alternative career opportunity. There is more than just good optics there. :)
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2002458]Perhaps my fortune in life will lie in starting up a go-pro camera for use in brothels company. That way guys like you will realize upsells are not that bad in clubs like artemis and oceans either. You just got to get to know the places and how to navigate.
But personally I have a feeling the differences in clubs are not as big as some say. GT reviews here on the forum was all about low upsells. Then I check it out, and I see more upsells there than at Palace 2 years ago. Fishy I'd say. I think the initial rooms in new clubs are luck based. Afterwards you will get some points by the girls because they think you might become a regular, and maybe in average give you better service... just a theory...
Mr.Ho: Good to hear Eleny Grande has been making money singing some karaoke microphones lately. She does have talent, and maybe also alternative career opportunity. There is more than just good optics there. :)[/QUOTE]Yeah she was good performer too, and nice person to be with in room.
In GT some Bulgarians I am sorry I don't know the name who try to go wither one hour or 70 euro for 30 min, I told her 60 euro Artemis price and she did DFK and provided good sessions, so there still are upsell, but not like palace LOL.
I have to say though, like you I do not mind upsell as long as it is reasonable amount with reasonable return, but usually upsell is like let go for one hour standard price in most clubs. Just palace is bit different and got to be ready as gladiator to negotiate LOL.
Well I did like GT and at least to me, they were not racist at all, but I found these polish cleaning guys at GT annoying, not all, but some, like when you get out of outside cabin rooms, they are almost right outside giggling etc. I smiled at them and told them I am done with your nations beauty, you may clean now thank you as I walk pass them LOL I hope they spoke English, but other than that these guys were alright and even some are nice. I did not find GT racist and I found one Indian guy who is almost really dark as African people there, so there are some who get in.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2002477]
I have to say though, like you I do not mind upsell as long as it is reasonable amount with reasonable return, but usually upsell is like let go for one hour standard price in most clubs. Just palace is bit different and got to be ready as gladiator to negotiate LOL.[/QUOTE]But where does this come from? I never buy upsells unless I take charge asking for it myself (1 h, CIM etc). I allways cut them short after like 3 sec if they start with 'do you know the price?' Etc. I go 'shhhhhhhhhhhh.....!'
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2002457]. All the best looking stunner I found was always in palace, Artemis, oceans, you know more shark club, [/QUOTE]Sharks, but no shark in the tank. Only small shark souvenirs for bring back Japan. Sharks wuzz and not strong glass!
By the way, Oase has a few stunners too. And occationally you find one at sharks too, like Alexia. Too bad she is not too often there. I think she alternates between sharks and gt vienna. I think PL may put Paradise Stuttgart in the same bracket. But Babylon Hamburg is rumored to have the highest upsell in germany. So maybe worth a visit? LOL.
Those polish cleaning guys gotta hate their jobs. You can see it in their eyes sometimes. Its like a hangman half way done.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2002457]
Hmmm. I hear Hamburg FKK is good, there are many stunners there? Are they either Hungarian or German stunners there?[/QUOTE]Best place for German stunners. Hamburg. Reeperbahn. Babylon. Atmos. Romeo. Waiting for your report.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2002458]Perhaps my fortune in life will lie in starting up a go-pro camera for use in brothels company. [/QUOTE]Not necessary, a play by play that TC does well is good.
His reports are like VR.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2002434]Well, I could write all the names, but I do not remember many and what good does it do LOL.
[/QUOTE]You must have stopped by Venlo. LOL.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2002726]You must have stopped by Venlo. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah I did buddy I am proud member of Nobody's place in Venlo LOL Nice staff in that place, I had a nice chat with them, real nice guy.
I am spaced out of my head in club, so it is hard to remember some names, but those I repeated, which are few, I remember, one was Eleny as I discussed, other was kitty, other was some polish model type, but rest I just went once and I really do not care much what their FKK names are, but those I repeat I remember because I may repeat again when I go next time.
Kitty is very very good service, Eleny good service, polish girl so so service, but for all of them no up sell, but polish one asked to go for one hour for 100 euro or 30 min for 70 euro, I do not call this up sell to my standard just pressuring to go one hour, all I said was if I go for one hour would you give me good service? She did so so in NRW service level, but good enough.
In general, rumor that services in NRW are good is really true, I experienced it with my body LOL as for racism rumor, not for Asians at all, but for toned guys, hmmm again I did see one gentleman from India, who is very dark in GT and also one Singh guy but light toned Indian actually in GT, rest were mostly dutch, some Asians, Germans clients in GT, receptionists are nice, cleaning guys are mostly nice, but some are cheeky, I mean it is first time I saw young men working in FKK as cleaning guys, usually in other German clubs I went it is older women working in FKK as cleaning ladies.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2002684]Sharks, but no shark in the tank. Only small shark souvenirs for bring back Japan. Sharks wuzz and not strong glass!
By the way, Oase has a few stunners too. And occationally you find one at sharks too, like Alexia. Too bad she is not too often there. I think she alternates between sharks and gt vienna. I think PL may put Paradise Stuttgart in the same bracket. But Babylon Hamburg is rumored to have the highest upsell in Germany. So maybe worth a visit? LOL.
Those polish cleaning guys gotta hate their jobs. You can see it in their eyes sometimes. Its like a hangman half way done.[/QUOTE]Yeah I hear about Hamburg club and now I am interested.
Oddly enough, whether they tell me the truth or not, most German girls I considered as highest stunners, most of them tell me they are from Hamburg. So if that is true, then Hamburg has some hot girls there. I met them in Frankfurt or Berlin FKK though.
Yeah, Oase I only went one time, but I found this model type Hungarian rather cafe au lait skinned girl, 170 cm, black or dark brunette hair pony tailed, who I even think she was not Hungarian, but she was so hot and beautiful, though she was shark as hell and one shark that was hard to bring out good service, so I just decided to fuck her hard doggy and cum, she did kiss with tongue, but it was somehow reserved session and I paid 120 euro, so 20 euro more. That was actually worst session for me in my all FKK experience as I usually get more out of one hour session, but it is not so much about cost performance, but she was beauty. I do not remember her name though.
So far I like palace and Artemis the best and oceans.
Oceans LU is real terrible till 6 PM I must say though, like real terrible, but after 6 pm you get real stunner there, but just 2 or 3. As for Turkish clients, it was not that many as described in forum even after 9 pm.
I like more shakier club and my theory that I just came up lately of more shakier the club is more quality of stunner in LU may make sense as those girls who are real hot knows they can earn more or they think they deserve more money, so they go and work in more sharky club.
Again I do not mind upsell as long as I get what I want, but not like give me 200 euro for one hour kinda thing, but if it is like 120 to 150 euro I do not mind too much, but I expect and secure return good service. As for going one hour I also do not mind as long as I get good service and most of time I do and sometimes, magic happen when I agree to go for one hour.
I mean you cannot expect real stunner level girl to do acrobatic things in room for just 50 euro, some forum members not us says they do this for just 50 euro etc, but look, I got lucky sometimes, I just wanted go for short session so just go for 50 or 60 euro and it turned out I got good DFK with good session without negotiating and just for standard 30 minutes price, but I can count that in my two hand in 6 years of going to FKK, that is very rare, so I do not mind reasonable upsell in return of service.
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Palace forum.
I was just reading recent Palace forum. I think some guys take these prostitutes and FKK girls too seriously LOL.
I goto FKK and fuck prostitutes as I can get rid of them after fucking until I decide to hire her for some sexual experiences, but some of these guys at Palace thread are talking about feeling, passion, blood, man! I go to prostitutes to not get involve in drama, but these guys bring in drama with prostitutes?
I remember once at Artemis, two clients got into mild fight over one prostitutes as one guy is going with her as regular, other guy too and they got jealous with each other and got into shouting battle, which the girl who was the heart slob for these two guys told me later that when she go to room with other guy especially one of the two, another guy get really angry and jealous. I mean.