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Do any of you teach English or another foreign language at institutes in Korea?
I used to teach English for an institute in the Kangnam area.
It is easy to score with the students (over the age of 20 of course. :) )
Maybe I should go back into teaching.....:)
Sincerely,
New World Order
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by wickedwillie
[i]I may be the bearer of bad news.
Decided to go to "finkle"/"pinkle" what ever the correct name of the place is and it was.
CLOSED!
Not sure if I went at a bad time or what, got that at 6:15pm and no joy. Floated around the area until 8:35pm and still no joy.
Do they only keep bankers hours?
Also, I wanted to make sure I went to the right place. Directions have been mediocre at best - as far as I could tell.
I found Starbucks and the "finkle" alley is on the right side of Starbucks. You go down about 1 flight of stairs (the bottom) and there is an opening to the left and then an opening to the right (for food shops).
The one on the left had a barberpole by a closed steel drop door - and it was closed. The barbershop pole was spinning (there is a barbershop in the food court to the right) but no joy found on the one on the left - was I in the right spot???
Thanks,
WickedWillie [/i][/QUOTE]Greetings WickedWillie :)
I'm afraid you went the wrong way.
There is a Starbucks at Yeoksam station. The entrance of this Starbucks does NOT face the main road. The entrance of this Starbucks faces a small road.
Stand in front of the entrance. You will see two small alleys in front of you. Go to the alley on the right. Walk about 30M (I'm not sure how long it is in feet) and turn right. Then on your left, you will see two barbershop poles (one on each side) There will be a glass door. There is a board on top of the door and it reads like this --> ÇÎŬ. It is written in white on a pink background.
Open it, you will see a stairway which is in a red carpet. Go down and you will come to Finkle~~~ :)
Good luck. If you still have trouble finding the place, let me know!
Sincerely,
New World Order
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Greetings gentlemen :)
Does anyone know another place like Finkle in the Kangnam area? :)
I've been to other massage parlors which are located in behind and next to the Renaissance hotel. But they charge twice as much as Finkle. :(
Thanks!
Sincerely,
New World Order
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First time writing here,
I just don't understand the big deal out of Pinkle. The place is a dump and the service is not as good as others.
If I were you (non-Korean), I would just vist any MP and ask for a girl. Usually, they will keep sending you girls until you are satisfied.
The going price for FS is 170,000~200,000 won and you could get extra if you behave good.
I just think that it is a shame all you talk about is a dump like Pinkle. Go to Gang Nam area and look for "An-Ma" places, you won't regret it.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by assetman
[i]Yangban,
""Bar-fines" illegal for US GI types since last Fall" - interesting. Does PMO enforce this in any way to the point where they scare the numbnut GIs enough not to do it, or is it just cosmetic PR?
Also, how has this affected regular expat customers? Are barfine rates still in the $200 range? Are the girls keen on getting barfined by us or happy enough with their juicey take?
I was there about 5 times in Mar. Apr. 2002 and was fairly satisfied by the Flip service/quality. A friend who was there recently told me that out of 5 barfines, he had 2 "runners" (barfine was paid but girls didn't put out). Is this just bad luck or has it come to the point where, like in Manila, you have to pretty much go through a verbal rundown of what is expected in the presence of both girl and manager?
Sorry for the multiple questions but I have a thing for Flips and Songtan seems to be the closest place to Seoul I can find them. [/i][/QUOTE]
1. Well, this is my take on how USFK "enforces" the "no-barfine" policy: they send undercover cops into the clubs to negotiate with the owners and/or girls. In the US this would be entrapment, but here, it flies. When/if the cop gets an offer from a girl, they immediately report it and the base puts the club off-limits. This happened with the three biggest clubs in Songtan; the Young-chon, Zone, and Golden Gate were all off-limits for about three-four weeks. Recently they were all back in business...
perhaps ex-pats will fare better--as you dont have to abide by the curfew nor fall under "SOFA" status.....
2. "Runners". This practice was actually started by the Koreans in Songtan about 4-5 years ago. In Korea itself, the practice is known as "ticket-bee" or "shigan-bee"; "bee" means fare or fee, "shigan" means time. Mostly practiced by the old coffee-shops or "tabangs", basically you are paying the girl's salary for an hour, or whatever amount of time you agreed on. It does not imply sex. So this practice spread to the clubs; eventually charging customers 140,000-180,000 won to take one of the girls out for an hour (probably more now). Then the girls usually made you take em' to a restaurant or another club, go dancing, whatever. When you ducked into the men's room, that's usually when they' d split the scene on you....
So, yeah, if you're gonna try this, negotiate with the girl while you're buying her drinks, make sure she knows what u want and agrees to it all, especially the price. I don't know about $200 anymore. Some of the girls have broached the subject with me first; they'd start at about $250, come down to $200, getting cheaper, etc, as the evening grew later, so I guess its still possible. Try it on a slow weeknight in between paydays (1st and 15th) when business is slower. There's many more Russians in Songtan now than Filipinas--I'd say close to 2:1 ratio, and Korean girls are virtually impossible to find anymore--there's but a handful of em left around. The Stereo Club still has many Filipinas, also the Phoenix (its a real dump, though) and the Playboy Club has some nice ones too. Good luck.
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gameover,
Keep a best memory from Korea!
Bye!
Daniel
[QUOTE]Originally posted by gameover
[i]GOOD BYE!!!!
I have just been informed that I will be leaving Korea soon. Because of an upcoming move back to the US (where things are more expensive) I will be curtailing my activities here in an attempt to sack away enough cash to carry me through my move.
Thanks to all for the valuable contributions to the hobby- Korea style and I hope that my additions have helped some of you enjoy your stay as well. [/i][/QUOTE]
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Need some help guys. I am traveling to Seoul next week and need some info on the best place to find some women, that are reasonable and are decent. What is a reasonable price to pay in Seoul for full service? I am staying new Itaewon Station.
Thanks for the help
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As a newbie here, let me describe my experiences in Korea.
I'm a young guy way below 30 so I prefer woman that are in the age range of 18-25. So in Korea, I don't go to barber shops or bath-houses because most likely they are older.
Since I'm new, my background is I'm Korean-American and can speak enough Korean to get by but my accent is barely acceptable, most people can tell after talking to me for a couple of minutes in Korean that I'm not a native speaker.
The first thing if anybody has any comments is condom use in Korea. Shit..... I've been enjoying our little hobby for awhile and I hate the fact that in Korea, the girls don't want you to use a condom. Always freaks me out because they just want to bareback it. And once in awhile they just try to slip me in without asking if I want a rubber. So becareful guys, I'm willing to bet the AIDS and STD rate is even higher than Philippines or Thailand because every time I go there most girls want to use rubbers. Of course there's that little "circle of friends" theory where people say they usually get repeat customers so everyone in the circle is good.
Anyway back to some reports. I have been to a room salon but my experience is limited because I can't justify spending that kind of money.
No offense to all the Non-Koreans(NK) out there but I prefer places that usually don't accept NK's just because logically there is a slight albeit less than 1% that there might be less chance of an STD. I know this is being ethnocentric but I sure you guys understand the reasoning.
Also, my ratings of the girls is of course my personal tastes like everyone else but I have a hard time trusting non-Asians for rating Asian women because of course their standard of beauty is different since you didn't grow up looking at Asian woman.
Miari - I started to travel to Korea only 4 years ago for work and this was the first time I went to a RLD. (tear) All the things I've been missing living in the good'ol USA. The quality of girls are wide ranging from above average to butt ugly. I had some mamasan pick me up after I got out of the cab and she took me to a back room not on the main alleys and the girls look frigin ugly and fat. No wonder they need someone to go get them guys, for the most part walk the alleys don't go with mamasan. The standard procedure in Miari seems to be you go in, can't really pick the girl in the beginning, you go into a small room with beer, anju, and a karaoke. The girl comes in, I assume you can ask for another if you don't like what you see. Anyway, she sits next to you, you can shoot the shit if you want with her, I don't think this time goes into your "fun" time. I came alone the times I came here so maybe if you go with a bunch of friends you sit there sorta room salon style and sing a couple of songs before.
When it's time for the fun, you just go into a small room the size of a full size bed at most, that fits a twin size mat. She leaves to wash up, you undress waiting. She brings in a wet towel with a bucket of water to wash you off. (On a side note, I'm kinda weary of this because you can catch an STD from moist towels, especially if they are reusing them for a couple of guys. You think they have a laudry service at that place. :) ) Miari service is pretty weak overall, very Non-GFE, it's just an assembly line, you do your deed, you get cleaned up again with wet towel, see ya later. This place is mamasan run, so the mamasan comes after you not the girls.
For the non-koreans, I've seen a couple of non-koreans there, mostly what looked like Indian, so reading from previous posts and personal experience, some places do take foreigners.
588 - tried 588 after a drunken night. Found a cute beauty there but was stupid as shit. I decided that night that I didn't want to get FS, just a blow with condom. Reason being, like I stated before I prefer to go to places that usually serve only Koreans. Anyway, friggin dumb girl about 20 years old told me that she was afraid of getting an STD from the rubber. From the friggin rubber, she said something like Korean condoms are different from US condoms and their quality is not good and how her friend got an STD from giving head with a rubber, I just told her flat out that she was dumb and her friend got the STD from not using a rubber, friggin whole time complained that she had to blow me with a rubber on. She spent about 10 minutes afterwards brushing her teeth afterwards. I didn't even cum in her mouth.
Anyway, same a Miari, assembly line but the girls are independent, didn't meet a mamasan.
For non-koreans, I have no personal experience with foreigners, didn't see any when I went but from past reports, they may accept.
The next section is my FAVORITE place so far, the famous young joo gol(YJG). Went there 3 times so far and each time a friggin awesome experience. At first I would take the subway and then taxi there which is expensive but now I can drive there blind folded. Korea is a hard place to drive in and I don't know korea well enough to drive anywhere except young joo gol. Some how I have this radar in my brain where I can't find the COEX or even Itaewon if my life depended on it but I can figure out how to get to YJG from anywhere is Seoul. My friends and I spent 4 hours almost going all the way to North Korea trying to figure out how to find this place.
If someone familar with the area knows: What is the other RLD called that is next to YJG. YJG is the one by where the water runs through it with a small overpass bridge. What is the other place called that is about 10 minutes away. Entering the town from the South you can take a right to go to YJG but if you go another way there is another RLD. At first I thought this was YJG but speaking with some of the girls working there, it was not. This place YJG#2 had girls that were just a good looking but they also had schoolgirl fetish house. 2 places had girls that were dressed in the typical slutty schoolgirl outfits. The ones I saw were average at best but maybe the got some hotties, if that is your thing.
Back to YJG, this place has got to be the best in terms of quality of girls, maybe the good looking ones come here because they can still make the money but less chance of family finding out since this place is so far from Seoul. Seriously, you're going through the countryside to find this place. Almost all were pretty decent, no fat ugly girls here. A lot of overnight customers, the parking lot in the back was full of cars and not much foot traffic. Maybe the guys from Seoul drive up and spend the night since it is far.
Besides the quality of girls, what sets YJG apart from the rest is the service you recieve. This place is GFE heaven. I prefer not to kiss, just my thing, like the gay pretty woman movie thing but I there to fuck not make out. These girls give you the whole GFE experience. They undress you, take you to the shower, shower you, scrub your whole body down while you are standing. You brush your teeth with a new sealed toothbrush :) (read the toothbrush ass cleaning comment from before) The girls takes her time, licks you all over, flips you on you stomach and gives you a rim job, BBBJ for awhile and then as many positions as you wish until you cumm, of course there is a time limit of 30-60 minutes but they didn't seem pushy or hurried to me. AND once again the friggin, NO CONDOM, is needed policy, shit I hate that and make me friggin worry. Every girl there just wanted to do it BB without a rubber, had to insist each time on one.
So beware guys, you know how in Miari and 588 the girls claim to get tested once a week. I asked a girl there and she said she never gets tested there since they are so far away from Seoul, there's less supervision there, no foreigners, etc. Friggin BS, this is the one bad mark about this place compared to the others.
For the Non-Koreans, my experince there is that I went with a Chinese guy and a White guy. They would not take my White friend, we offered 300,000 won but no go, even 100,000 won just for a BJ with condom, WTF, pissed us all off. I read that "nico" from before said he's Mexican and got service at YJG and read someone else was also refused so YMMV. Good luck. Now my Chinese friend, he doesn't look Korean, not even Chinese more like a Filipino, kinda dark but I told this one girl, who my friend said looks like a Korean Jennifer Andiston, that he was a Korean-American like myself and he couldn't speak a word of Korean because he grew up in the US. After I said some stupid story about us visiting our family in Korea for the first time and some other BS, she was willing to give my friend the FS. Don't be too sad for my white friend, I made it up to him by getting him a incall at a love motel when we got back to Seoul. The girl at first didn't like the fact he was white but after some convincing and a little extra money she was down. She was in her late 20's BTW, average, not ugly but not a stunner.
Hope this long post explains enough of the scene to my fellow punters. Good luck. I'll be around here for a bit so I'll answer some questions, if needed. Also if there are any fellow punters who want to take the trek to YJG one time together, drop me a line at gold123@email.com , I'm in Korea once in awhile. I probably would only feel comfortable going with some guys close to my age in the 20's though and if you're not Korean, I'll try my best to hook it up but no guarentees since I couldn't get it done last time with my friend.
Happy Punting!
Mool
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The place near Yon Ju Gol is called Bop Won Ri it's smaller than Yon Ju Gol but just as nice. I went there by taxi from Munsan and I didn't get to chose or anything, the taxi driver just took me got out arranged it with some girl and then waited for me. Next time I would like to walk around and enjoy the sights.
Ciao
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Moolman
how much was the damage (money wise) at Young Joo Gol (YJG) for pussies treatment? TIA
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by New World Order
[i]Greetings WickedWillie :)
I'm afraid you went the wrong way.
There is a Starbucks at Yeoksam station. The entrance of this Starbucks does NOT face the main road. The entrance of this Starbucks faces a small road.
Stand in front of the entrance. You will see two small alleys in front of you. Go to the alley on the right. Walk about 30M (I'm not sure how long it is in feet) and turn right. Then on your left, you will see two barbershop poles (one on each side) There will be a glass door. There is a board on top of the door and it reads like this --> ÇÎŬ. It is written in white on a pink background.
Open it, you will see a stairway which is in a red carpet. Go down and you will come to Finkle~~~ :)
Good luck. If you still have trouble finding the place, let me know!
Sincerely,
New World Order [/i][/QUOTE]Well, I guess I did not follow the directions. I took the subway to the Yeoksam Exit and went up the stairs that said Yeoksam Station and kept walking straight after I got on the main street. The starbucks I found was about a 5 to 10 minute walk... What are the correct walking directions coming up from the subway???
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Sorry, I forgot the prices...
60K-70K for 30 min... I get confused if this was somewhere else or not but one of them is right, the standard rate it seem is this.
120K for 1 hour
350K for all night but the girl will not stay with you until later she will be out front working for more customers and comeback.
500k+ all night
I don't know if the all night prices are good prices because I really didn't negoiate them, I just asked because I was curious and this is what I was told. But when I asked why it was so high the girl replied that she had a lot of customers in a night and she had to make the same amount if I wanted her to stay with her. So you figure, she gets like 7-10 customers a night for this booney town. Seems realistic since I did see a parking lot full of cars.
Mool
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Althogh being a regular visitor, this is my first post. Let me share my experience that I had during my stay in Seoul. From what I gathered by going through this forum, I thought asian women were hostile to foreigners. But changed my views after I got laid at a night club. I’m an american businessmen who was in Seoul for a week and was staying at the Hilton. Although I had visited a barber shop on the previous night,I didn’t enjoy it. The women just rushed, So to sing away the blues I walked in to “Pharaoh’s at Hilton. I was on my own. after a few drinks and dancing about less than an hour I got hooked with a taiwanese chick who went by the name Grace. And she was just what I was craving for. She looked a high class escort and more or less looked like a Japanese with read hair. I’d taken her to my room, she agreed to spend the night with me till whee hours. A mutual shower,69 with CBJ,anal , we did it all. Grace was very corporative and very clean. Indeed a GFE. It was well worth for 350K .Back home you would newer get such quality asians. Well guys, If you want some quality hit the exclusive night clubs. That’s my advice for all you punters.
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I don't think there are that many shops in Yong Joo Gol that accept foreigners, just like 588. The ones who do accept foreigners are usually quite mediocre / nasty. Even for non-Korean Asians, it's sometimes very hard -- the girls are still quite scared of SARs and will reject you flat if you're Chinese. They do accept Japanese guys though.
I'm half-Chinese/White and have had a really tough time as I look a bit more white than Chinese, even though I can speak Korean somewhat okay, when they look at my ID and see that I have a Chinese name (my father is Chinese) some have rejected me flat out.
I will agree with what was written here and say that Itaewon or Miari is your best bet if you're a foreigner. Don't waste your time on those other places because you'll most likely have to come all the way to some far-out place just to settle for some nasty chick.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by New World Order
[i]Hi there Gentau :)
What do you mean by "western line"?
I once met a girl (from a club) in front of one of the subway exit (the one that is next to Outback (restaurant). Across the street from Outback is a department store. So is the RLD behind that department store? :)
Thank you.
Sincerely,
New World Order [/i][/QUOTE]Gentau here:
I should have said that I came in on the subway from the west. Yes the RLD is behind (about 80 yards) the department store along the main drag (across from the Outback). I might have time to wander back that way this week.