Newbie planning ahead for Thailand
New to this board and soon (hope) new to the Thai (in country) experience. Have enjoyed numerous Thai (acquaintances) in the states. And have enjoyed thoroughly.
First things. Am hoping to travel to Pattaya. But seem to have trouble getting it to come up as a destination on major travel sites. Where to you fly into or what is the code?
2nd. Is it better to book a place ahead of time or just look around and settle on something when you get there.
3rd. How safe is it to bring overnight girls to your place and fall asleep?
4th. Any other tips you can share are most appreciated.
Awesome report on Pattaya.
[QUOTE=DD Phil; 1149091]So took my first trip to Thailand last week. (I usually travel in Latin and South America and parts of Europe). I stayed in Pattaya for a week.
I went during their New Year celebrations. I figured it would be over by April 15 or 16. So I arrived on the 16th. But the festivities ended up going on until April 19. So walking down the streets in Pattaya during this time means getting soaked with water. Its their tradition to have water guns and squirt / soak passers by. Everyone was doing it everywhere, including the tourists. Its all good fun, but I wished it only lasted one day!
Pattaya itself is basically a party city with beach. Its somewhat crazy. There literally hundreds of bar-hotels (and some with restaurants). All these bars have girls that are available. In addition there's all the Go-Go bars in the Walking district area and the area around Areca hotel. There's probably more go-go bars, but I had enough fun in these two areas and not enough time to explore other parts.
There's also lots of guys from northern Europe here on extended holiday stays of 1-3 months or retired. Came across several of them in the bars during the day and had good converstaions with them.
Beers prices are fairly cheap at $2 (60-70 Baht) at most bars and in the Go-Go bars around $3-4. Drinks for ladies seems to be set at around $4 everywhere.
Food was also cheap. Most decent meals were costing me around $5-7 including a non-alcoholic drink. Breakfast was included in my hotel, but otherwise costs around $4.
I did some research on this forum first and decided to stay at Penthouse and booked for 2 nights. I think it was a mistake and I am so glad I only booked 2 nights. They have a policy of you paying up front and in the event you change your mind and want to leave earlier. Well tough luck.
The things I didn't like about the Penthouse was that the room is "over sexed". Its more like a room you rent by the hour. The bed and covers are also somewhat run down and dated. In general the furnishings aren't that great in the room. Given that your paying $60-70 in Pattaya. The shower in the bathroom isn't separted, so its all one big room and so when you take a shower, water gets everywhere. I asked if all the room showers were like this, and yes there are unless you get the onese with Jacuzzi (which cost more) in them. The room I had alos had very poor lighting and hardly any natural lighting.
The biggest con about the Penthouse was go-go bar assoicated with the hotel, Kittens, which is right next door. Well 2/3 of the dancers there are lady boys! And the penthouse is located right in BoysTown. Also on the tv there are 3 porn channels, but two of them are gay! Not sure why these facts weren't posted about this hotel in the forum. I wouldn't recommend staying here. For a hotel that's supposed to cater to us straight guys and advertises here on ISG. Why such a gay theme to the hotel! I have nothing against gays, but I don't want it in my face either.
The one thing I did like about the Penthouse was having all those wall sized mirrors in the room. Pretty much on 3 sides of the room and a wall sized one in the bathroom. So when having sex with the girl in the room, looking at her in the mirrors was kind of a pleasant turn on for me. Still I would not return to the Penthouse. Unless they fixed up the bathroom, got new bedding in there, and ensured only girl dancers in the go-go bar.
I ended up moving out of Penthouse and staying at a nearby bar-hotel-restaurant. They have about 10 rooms. I took one of the large rooms for 800 Baht ($27) a night. It was a good sized room, tiled floors, decent basic furnishings. There seem to be literally dozens of places like this in Pattaya. Probably worth the effort to take one afternoon off and go visit a bunch of hotels and find one that you like. I looked at few hotels (some 4 stars as well) before deciding on this one. For my last 2 nights I decided to upgrade and stayed at Bayview Residence. All the places I looked at have no girl (joiner) fees and only asked for her I'd to be left at the front desk. Only one hotel charged a fee if you brought more than one girl. So basically if you find yourself paying a joiner fee in Pattaya your needlessy wasting your money.
I ended up basically partying every night until around 4-5am. Getting up around 1pm or so. Then doing the same again! Was paying around 1000-1500 Baht for a girl for around 3 hours. Only once I took a girl for all night. Cost 2000. Bar fines were anywhere from 300-600 Baht. Never had problems with the girls back in my room. Always got BBBJ's, good massages, good sex. Only once was there an issue. Took one of the bartending girls from the Walking district area back to my room around 3am. Still had to pay the bar fine. 300. Got to my room and she was pretty much giving me attitude from the start. After 30mins of this I said if she didn't change I wasnt going to pay her. Well she was pissed off at this, but got dressed and left with no money.
In term of places to go. Its everywhere. The Go-GO bars in Walking district are prettly much all the same. They literally have dozens of girls dancing, all of them are pretty much good looking, mostly all 7-8's. Bottle beers are 120 Baht. Same price for drinks for girls. Draft beer is 60. The clubs stay open until 3am. The Walking dristict was always packed full of toursits. Didn't think it would be as crowded as it was for this time of year. The area around Areca hotel also has lots of go-go clubs and in general a good scene going on. If I go back to Pattaya, I will very likely end up staying at this hotel. Soi 7 and 8 also has tons of bars with girls. Never made it out to Soi 6. But I heard you can get BJ's there on SOi 6 while having your drink.
In terms of massage parlours. Looks like there are 2 places that have the monopoly. All the taxi guys and guys hustling you on the street mention only these two places. If you ask if there are others, these guys claim that there are not. These two places are called Honey and Rasputin. I went to both to get a look. Both are very classy setup. The girls are one side, behind a glass partition, sitting down. You can see them, they can see you, but you can't talk to them. The girls are all good looking. The girls are divided into different colours. The colour dictates the price. It either 1800 or 2500 for 1. 5 hours. The rooms are very nice, each has a large bathtub shower, large nice bed, large screen tv. All kinds fo soaps, and moistuizers. Very clean, there's staff up here as well for towels, drinks etc. I took advantage once. A girl from Honey for 2500. Got a great body on body massage in the bathtub. She only did CBJ. But it was great one at that. She was telling me each girl is different and she didn't do BBBJ. But then again I didn't offer her more money and she was doing a good job with the CBJ I didn't care. The sex was good too. Overall I had a very postive experience. But then again for 2500 here in Pattaya you should. These two places are open from noon to midnight.
I ended up finding another massage place. Called something like Teen Dream Girls massage. Its in the same area as Kiss, Office, Submarine, etc go-go bars. Just down 2 more blocks. Not as fancy a setup as Honey. The rates are for 1, 1.5 or 2 hours. Around 500-900 Baht. But that price only includes the room, massage and handjob. For anything else with the girl you have to negotiate with her. I took a girl once. Was giving a good message and handjob, but her clothes didn't come off. She was asking for 1000 more just for a BBBJ, no sex. For sex wanted another 500. WTF. So anyways paid another 1000 for the BBBJ. For these prices, the Honey club is way better. I'm sure there's a lot more (cheaper) massage parlours out there.
There's also lots of normal Thai massage parlours everywhere. These are great. For about 200 Baht you get a 1 hour lower leg and foot massage or back and shoulder massage. There's literally hundreds of these places all over the place. In fact you can be relaxing on the beach in one of those chairs, and there's these massage girls walking about giving foot massages.
Finally, one piece of informational story. It was late one night, around 2:30am. I ended up at the bars right before entering Walking district. I walked around and spotted this one cute girl sitting by herself talking with the staff. We made eye contact. So approached her. Talked with her for a bit. Bought her a drink. She's 20 years old, very bubbly. Deciced to take her back to my room. Bar fine was 300. And she asked for 1000 for 2-3 hours. I agreed. Had a great time with her. Did everything, starting with a shower together. We got to talking. Turns out she works in the day at the Honey massage parlour. Says she makes around 50K Baht a month and takes care of all her family including parents. She doesn't have a kid. Sometimes she has sex up to 5-6 times a day at Honey. In contrast the go-go dancers on Walking street make around 8K-10K Baht a month. But thats just on tips, etc no sex, if they go for sex thats extra for them.
My total cost for a 7 night trip (excluding airfare) was $1700. Includes hotel, food, drinks, bar fines, girls, taxi's (including taxi's to and from airport) , and even some shorts, tshirts I picked up. Had about 12 girls over these 7 days.[/QUOTE]Very, very informative. From the girls to the lodging and services info. Excellent.