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Uruguania station
[QUOTE=Helprules]Carlos, I think you answered the wrong person. I wanted to know the best way to get to 4x4, by bus or train, and what stop do i get off at.[/QUOTE]
Take the metro to Uruguania station. Use Google maps to get walking directions to 44 Rua Buenos Aires.
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Tradesman's entrance
I will be coming back to the wonderful city soon, having been away for almost a year. I am trying to decide a theme; the votes are not yet counted; it seems like anal.
What is the general state of the anal fuck and leite-eating offerings this year, since the closing of Help has shaken up the market? Last year on Rio Branco I was getting everything from a CBJ nervous nellie to a naughty young safada that tried to take me bareback in her arsehole (!). But, in general, a 80% cum-dodge rate, even at L'uomo. Now I just came back from the crazy ceweks in Jakarta who have my spoiled my little colleague and I with their GFE BBFS. Suadades, already! That aside, and with real expectations, I'm bringing Carioca GDP's their chance to recapture my adoration and Reals with some really nice completa. :)
It looks like Karla's and CIAplus are not even a good option, although something is making me think that Karla's garotas did about anything....? Since I don't know of anyplace where completa is standard, I am thinking of trying some places that are new to me..like Aquarios, Cancun and perhaps takeout from Pussycat. Any thoughts on those places and completa?
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4x4 by bus or Metro
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Take the metro to Uruguania station. Use Google maps to get walking directions to 44 Rua Buenos Aires.[/QUOTE]
The Metro, as PP explains, is very straightforward.
The bus, you have to work out where to get off. Nearly all buses into town stop either at a) [b]Praca XV[/b] (Praca Quinze, pron. Prassa Kinz); or, for the Express ('[b]Aterro[/b]') buses, at the Perimetral underpass. Almost every Centro bus goes through either Praca XV or Perimetral. The one or two exceptions I can think of land you between Lapa & Centro just off Rua Carioca which isn't much out of your way either. They run 24/7.
[color=blue]Praca XV buses[/color] will often have that on the front. Praca Quinze is fairly easy to recognize as it is the site of Tiradentes Palace (see picture) - on the map, look for 'Paco Imperial'. Traffic travels northwards (up the map) but the bus stop is marked incorrectly by google. You get off on the right hand side, shortly after Tiradentes Palace, cross over past some church buildings, and join Rua Buenos Aires. 4x4 is indicated on the map with a red marker 'A.'
[color=blue]Perimetral buses[/color] are faster. Mostly cos they tend not to stop along the lengthy Flamingo stretch leading to Centro. The bus is usually travelling quickly when it shoots into the dark underpass. Alight swiftly, climb the nearest stairs, and (facing the direction the bus was travelling) turn left. This will take you across the large paved area that is Praca XV. If you don't like getting out in the subway, stay on for one more stop and get off in the region of Pres.Vargas. Buses marked Praca Maua all go this way too.
For coming back, you may feel so chilled that you just want to splurge on a waiting cab outside anyway. If you don't, it's just a few yards to Avenida Rio Branco (turn right as you exit 4x4). Traffic travels south down Rio Branco and you can catch any bus with Copacabana emblazoned across the front. If it's late in the evening, flag it down authoritatively. If it's business hours, you'll need to grab it either at the correct stop or else when it has stopped at traffic lights or in traffic. Just walk up and expect the driver to open the door as if it's the normal thing to do. You can also go back to the underpass and get a bus from there if you want.
[i][color=gray]for anyone unfamiliar with buses or feeling nervous about using them, there's a quickie guide I posted a while back [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=858119&postcount=523"]here[/url][/color][/i]
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4x4 - For those who came in late
[QUOTE=Christopherd]The Metro, as PP explains, is very straightforward.[/QUOTE]
This report also can be found in the Reports of Distinction. Prices are dated by the rest is still valid.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=695844#post695844[/url]
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Brazil in spanish
For those of you that spek some spanish there's a couple of cool forums:
[url]http://foro.forosx.com/brasil-beleza-pura-viviane-araujo-t19132.html[/url]
[url]http://foro.forosx.com/brazil-con-z-t15510.html[/url]
Enjoy.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]what are the rates at Ju Pantera? Comparable to Karla - 2 hrs for R$120? I will be in Rio next week with my lady and there is a GDP there that she has her eyes on. thanks[/QUOTE]Rates were $180/2hrs + taxi if they go to you.
$150/2hrs if you go to Serrano, as they are close by.
As of Jan 10'
Boa Sorte !
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Not the kind of escort you want
[QUOTE=Kman1]Totally agree. never a dull moment at quatro por quatro. The first time I went I met a guy who maxed out his credits cards. I wonder what they do if you are out of money since you pay after you are done?
I really enjoyed the chicken salad they serve out there. yum.. It looked like this, correct me if I'm wrong.
[url]http://www.ninopizzaria.com.br/imgs/fot_saladas/a_salpicao-700.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]
They will escort you to some place where you can get the money. To your hotel, an ATM, or to your work place to get a cash advance (that would be embarrassing, but I have heard of it happening), or ??? Now, if you can't come up with it in a short time, don't know. I have seen one place keep someone's ID -- that was back when the aircraft carrier was in town and some sailor had to go find friends to lend him money. LOL.
Needless to say, you don't want to be in this postion.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Centaurus is good for getting a GDP's phone number for after hours and day off activity. They actually respect guys who aren't stupid enough to pay the R$450 termas rate. I used to go for the music (lately this has sucked), have a bite to eat and get a few numbers.
This termas is only recommended for gringos who speak Portuguese well. Otherwise, you will look like the white rat that was thrown to the piranhas. There won't be much left of you (your wallet anyway) when they are done with you.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofXW7xPrnSI&NR=1[/url][/QUOTE]I agree with the fact that the prices suck but I think the quality at Centaurus is better than 4x4 or any other I've been to. There is a reason they are still open charging what they are charging.
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Not a question of quality
[QUOTE=Trafukin]I agree with the fact that the prices suck but I think the quality at Centaurus is better than 4x4 or any other I've been to. There is a reason they are still open charging what they are charging.[/QUOTE]
I do not think I would be asking for girl's numbers if the quality wasn't there. However, I might add that if your interest is in women of color, Centaurus is not the place to find them. Centaurus also is a good place to get to know some of the wealthier locals.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I do not think I would be asking for girl's numbers if the quality wasn't there. However, I might add that if your interest is in women of color, Centaurus is not the place to find them. Centaurus also is a good place to get to know some of the wealthier locals.[/QUOTE]I would agree with this. The blancas however where stacked in the back I must say! Every women in there had back! I would highly recommend this place!
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Centaurus is the best!
Centaurus is by far the best!
You have to pay for the best! If you can't afford it, the other termas are available. They have to good quality too! Just not as good as Centaurus.
Just like the woman of Rio. The higher you pay the more quality you get!
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[QUOTE=Prophetsex]... Just like the woman of Rio. The higher you pay the more quality you get![/QUOTE]
Meaning that the faveladas who used to work at Help and charged R$ 400 were not really skanks but stunners...? ;)
I've never been to Centaurus, and I have no intention of ever setting my foot in that terma. My friends who went there all said that the quality was good, but not spectacular and definitely not worth the price.
As someone wrote on Gpguia regarding Centaurus: "Tudo caro. Coisa prá gringo desavisado ou burro."
However, to each his own.
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Facts
[QUOTE=Sperto]Meaning that the faveladas who used to work at Help and charged R$ 400 were not really skanks but stunners...? ;)
I've never been to Centaurus, and I have no intention of ever setting my foot in that terma. My friends who went there all said that the quality was good, but not spectacular and definitely not worth the price.
As someone wrote on Gpguia regarding Centaurus: "Tudo caro. Coisa prá gringo desavisado ou burro."
However, to each his own.[/QUOTE]
Just shows you cannot always believe everything you read on the internet. I certainly am not a promoter of Centaurus but the fact is the primary clients there are wealthy married Brazilian businessmen. From my conversations with them many are visiting Rio from other parts of Brazil. Over the years I have come to believe that the pricing and the attitude toward gringos is purposefully designed to dissuade many gringos from going there. The same issue as brought up about gringos visiting the downtown casas.
If you want to socialize with some of Brazil's movers and shakers it is a good place to find them. If you want to pay R$450 for 40 minutes with an attractive good performing light skinned girl, you can do that too. You also can go there, hang out, listen to some live music and get a few of the girls' numbers for later.
However, my opinion is that just because you are paying more, doesn't mean you are getting more. Sometimes, you are just paying more.
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Centaurus
I and four friends hit Centaurus a while back , first time for all of us. It is a great place if you like the Brazilian thick thigh body-builder type. To me they look like Travesties. None of us wanted to program with any of them, after a while the girls started doing body builder poses, they looked so butch my friends started to pretend to be gay for a joke. The whole thing was funny but surreal. Don't know if it was a bad night , only went the once , but none of us rated any girl there higher than a 7. After Centaurus we all went to Help, much better selection there, I think we all pulled someone from Help
( I miss Help, not just for the girls, but to meet up with my gringo friends too )
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Yeah these key logging software packages are great.[/QUOTE]
Anybody have a brand recommendation? I used Spectrasoft at home. But, it's $75+ per license and, frankly, it does too much stuff. Is there a better priced cheap one?
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[QUOTE=Full Throttle]Anybody have a brand recommendation? I used Spectrasoft at home. But, it's $75+ per license and, frankly, it does too much stuff. Is there a better priced cheap one?[/QUOTE]
I bought mine over 8 years ago to protect my son from predators on the internet it's called "Child Safe" by Webroot. But I think the original poster mentions free software below.
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[QUOTE=Spinnerman]I and four friends hit Centaurus a while back , first time for all of us. It is a great place if you like the Brazilian thick thigh body-builder type. To me they look like Travesties. None of us wanted to program with any of them, after a while the girls started doing body builder poses, they looked so butch my friends started to pretend to be gay for a joke. The whole thing was funny but surreal. Don't know if it was a bad night , only went the once , but none of us rated any girl there higher than a 7. After Centaurus we all went to Help, much better selection there, I think we all pulled someone from Help
( I miss Help, not just for the girls, but to meet up with my gringo friends too )[/QUOTE]
Considering that Help closed earlier this year, was this back in January? I only found decent selection during the summer (i.e. Nov-Feb) months. I assume that Help's replacement (currently Balcony Bar?) would have similar seasonality.
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[QUOTE=Prophetsex]Centaurus is by far the best!
You have to pay for the best! If you can't afford it, the other termas are available. They have to good quality too! Just not as good as Centaurus.
Just like the woman of Rio. The higher you pay the more quality you get![/QUOTE]
You obviously do not get out of Zona Sul much do you?
There are plenty of stunners, for a fraction of the cost of a Centaurus Garota, in the other termas as well as via agencies. Centauraus is a clip joint, period.
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Can someone that is vacationing in Brazil report on what the cambios are giving. Oanda.com is showing 1.80 and xe.com is showing 1.85. The dollar is soaring with all the fear from greece. Lets hope it last for my August trip.
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What does "VS" stand for?
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gifts for gdp's
It took me a few trips to figure it out but I would bring VS lotions and some other things which I don't want to mention and dangle them in front of them as a propina for gerat service. My last 3 or 4 trips I started to trade stuff I paid 20 to 30 bucks for, for sessions. Works like a charm, when I get down to the last one of a particular item they fight over them.. its a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. They tell me "don't tell so and so I have this I will have to share it with her" or "don't let her know you have that I will fuck the hell out of you tomorrow for the other one"..its a buyers market.
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What it stands for
[QUOTE=Helprules]What does "VS" stand for?[/QUOTE]Stands for Victorias Secret. when I used go to rio I ( when you got R275 per dollar) I always brought 8 or 10 bottles of their fruit scented lotions and gave them away as door prizes. they friggin loved them.
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VS great for barter
For each trip I bring a suitcase full of Victoria Secret products. I have been doing so for the last four years for at least four to five trips a year. Sometime I have so much I leave it with a friend in Rio and pick up my next trip.
I have not been stopped by customs and on the occasions they have examined my luggage they are more concerned by about my personal electronics as gifts more so than the VS.
Yes, VS is sold in duty free at obscene prices.
Interestingly, enough when you exit Centaurus there is a woman on the sidewalk as you walk to Rua Visconde de Pirajá, selling VS lotions.
They are good for barter for services and as tip for exception services. The power of VS is a strong at the Real.. It is amazing.
Smooth
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I went to the VS website and there are hundred of products. What is the Rolex of their product line, so I can just concentrate on one or 2 products that they will love. I am not a metro sexua, l so I don't know if lotions are better than perfume or shampoo. Blah. Also, if it cost 9 bucks on the website, how much is it worth to the girls in reals?
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Are the following bars/clubs worth a turn Saturday evening or daytime?
[b]Barbarella[/b]: Av Prado Junior
[b]Erotica[/b]:Av Prado Junior
[b]Frank`s Bar[/b]: Princess Isabel
I believe i have seen Frank`s bar mentioned on the forum on the rare occasion. Names were given to me by naughty Carla who invited herself to my lunchtime table today. Of course she was after business, massage and a little loving, R$130 all inclusive. Huge tits but a little on the large side, i declined.
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Franks now Mermaid
[QUOTE=Noddy]Are the following bars/clubs worth a turn Saturday evening or daytime?
[b]Barbarella[/b]: Av Prado Junior
[b]Erotica[/b]:Av Prado Junior
[b]Frank`s Bar[/b]: Princess Isabel
I believe i have seen Frank`s bar mentioned on the forum on the rare occasion. Names were given to me by naughty Carla who invited herself to my lunchtime table today. Of course she was after business, massage and a little loving, R$130 all inclusive. Huge tits but a little on the large side, i declined.[/QUOTE]
Don't waste your time on the Mermaid. More fish than woman. Long story short took the featured dancer out of there one night and she was more interested in what I could do for her than the other way around. Other than her, not a doable girl in the place. We were promised a live sex show. I guess it was live.
Pass this one by and don't look back.
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1]I bring the lotions to the girls myself but I give them away as tips for good service to the gals. All it takes is for the information to get to the wrong gal with the wrong police friend and, tadaaa!!! You have to deal with their police, customs and so on for their cut, not to mention the fines. It would ruin a perfectly good trip and cost you a lot more than you think. Depending on where you are from (If from the USA for example), that would be a guaranteed way to get kicked out of the country with your picture in their newspapers. Just, think about it.[/QUOTE]Come on man. How many hookers actually have police friends outside of the threat they sometimes make? Even if they said anything it would not matter. You have already cleared customs. That is where you have to worry about it. The limit for those cremes is 10. If you bring more than that and you don´t declare it and they check you then you are up shit creek. I mean if you had 12 it would be no big deal. You would just have to pay for 2 bottles. But 40 or 50 over the limit as someone was saying without declaring it and paying duty then you are asking for it.
As in the USA the limit for spirits is 1 liter. Now you will always see people bring 2 or 3 bottles. They usually let it slide, but in the case they decide not to you will have to pay $5 duty for each additional up to a certain limit. If you bring in fruit or raw meat without saying anything then you are looking at $500 fine per piece, then they will throw it away. When it doubt declare it.
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Florida
[QUOTE=Noddy]Are the following bars/clubs worth a turn Saturday evening or daytime?
[b]Barbarella[/b]: Av Prado Junior
[b]Erotica[/b]:Av Prado Junior
[b]Frank`s Bar[/b]: Princess Isabel[/QUOTE]
You want to go to a club offering strip-tease, half-naked girls dancing and with possibility to get laid?
Skip the rip-off strip clubs in Copa and go to Florida Bar at Praça Mauá. Nice girls and you can session either upstairs, in Motel Puma nextdoors or bring her back to your place.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Skip the rip-off strip clubs in Copa and go to Florida Bar at Praça Mauá. Nice girls and you can session either upstairs, in Motel Puma nextdoors or bring her back to your place.[/QUOTE]
Appreciations Gents on the prompt response. Florida bar it is then.
Was at Vila Mimosa tonight, third time this week, some gems to be found there, saw a def ten tonight. Have any of you mongers ever eaten pussy at VM:D? I love to eat, but VM is the most challenging of all, the high traffic congestion (mongers) spook me off giving oral.
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[QUOTE=Noddy]Appreciations Gents on the prompt response. Florida bar it is then.
Was at Vila Mimosa tonight, third time this week, some gems to be found there, saw a def ten tonight. Have any of you mongers ever eaten pussy at VM:D? I love to eat, but VM is the most challenging of all, the high traffic congestion (mongers) spook me off giving oral.[/QUOTE]
I hope you'll enjoy Florida. I'm not sure how Saturdays are at Florida? Florida Bar can be very good or quite dead. It depends on the number of girls coming there that evening, which depends on if there is a foreign ship in the harbour.
You have Scandinavia Bar next to Florida. Usually not that good. On the other side of the street you have the Filippino Bar (more like a restaurant) which is quite fun.
Regarding your question of eating p*ssy at VM. That's one thing that I would avoid (not meaning that I havn't done it :)). When I have 20-30 minutes to session I rather not "waste" time eating p*ssy. Also, I rather not put my mouth where there might have been another guys dick just 30 minutes earlier.
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[QUOTE=Noddy]Appreciations Gents on the prompt response. Florida bar it is then.
Was at Vila Mimosa tonight, third time this week, some gems to be found there, saw a def ten tonight. Have any of you mongers ever eaten pussy at VM:D? I love to eat, but VM is the most challenging of all, the high traffic congestion (mongers) spook me off giving oral.[/QUOTE]
I look, smell, nibble, sense and if all appears good, munch if I feel inclined. (I'd say pussy hygeine is hardly uniform - though on the whole probably better than many Asian countries.) But as Sperto points out, there's hardly time for the full sit-down dining experience. ;)
And although slightly different rules apply, if I come across a really gross one then I'm not even going to stick my covered dick in it.
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Common sense is your best friend.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Come on man. How many hookers actually have police friends outside of the threat they sometimes make? Even if they said anything it would not matter. You have already cleared customs. That is where you have to worry about it. The limit for those cremes is 10. If you bring more than that and you don´t declare it and they check you then you are up shit creek. I mean if you had 12 it would be no big deal. You would just have to pay for 2 bottles. But 40 or 50 over the limit as someone was saying without declaring it and paying duty then you are asking for it.
As in the USA the limit for spirits is 1 liter. Now you will always see people bring 2 or 3 bottles. They usually let it slide, but in the case they decide not to you will have to pay $5 duty for each additional up to a certain limit. If you bring in fruit or raw meat without saying anything then you are looking at $500 fine per piece, then they will throw it away. When it doubt declare it.[/QUOTE]
Common sense is your best friend. This applies to both adults and children.
As for my experiences, electronics is the big issue. Customs is super picky and careful. They are more lax when it comes to perfumes, lotions, etc. However, use some common sense and don't push the envelope with the amount you are bringing into the country.
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Codswallop
[QUOTE=Prophetsex]Centaurus is by far the best!
You have to pay for the best! If you can't afford it, the other termas are available. They have to good quality too! Just not as good as Centaurus.
Just like the woman of Rio. The higher you pay the more quality you get![/QUOTE]Absolute codswallop. Not only is this place expensive. I have never in terms of girl quality found it superior. They definitely have an unearned arrogance.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]You want to go to a club offering strip-tease, half-naked girls dancing and with possibility to get laid?
Skip the rip-off strip clubs in Copa and go to Florida Bar at Praça Mauá. Nice girls and you can session either upstairs, in Motel Puma nextdoors or bring her back to your place.[/QUOTE]What is the best time to hit Florida bar the 2 times I tried it it was closed.
Once around 4pm and the next time around 11pm.
Are they a late night spot say after midnite.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Come on man. How many hookers actually have police friends outside of the threat they sometimes make? Even if they said anything it would not matter. You have already cleared customs. That is where you have to worry about it. The limit for those cremes is 10. If you bring more than that and you don´t declare it and they check you then you are up shit creek. I mean if you had 12 it would be no big deal. You would just have to pay for 2 bottles. But 40 or 50 over the limit as someone was saying without declaring it and paying duty then you are asking for it.
As in the USA the limit for spirits is 1 liter. Now you will always see people bring 2 or 3 bottles. They usually let it slide, but in the case they decide not to you will have to pay $5 duty for each additional up to a certain limit. If you bring in fruit or raw meat without saying anything then you are looking at $500 fine per piece, then they will throw it away. When it doubt declare it.[/QUOTE]
An important addition: The spirits limit you mention is on imported spirits. If you buy in the duty free shop in Rio in arrivals, the limits are different. You can buy 12 bottles of wine and 12 bottles of spirits. I see people going out of there all the time with cases of Johnny Walker etc. The prices are not bad either. You can save a bundle by doing this.
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Gringo rip offs and life in Rio
Now I'm not saying they don't happen, but sometimes the "rip off" stems from the gringo's lack of language skills and understanding -- me included. Here is an example. Terma 22 has often been cited for charging gringos more than locals. Here is the actual situation. They have a detailed and complicated pricing structure:
20 mins - R55
30 mins - R75
40 mins - R95
60 mins - R115 (I think).
Ask for prices for extras like anal or whatever.
Entrada - R12 (3 beers included)
Other types of drinks (yours or garotas) - R15.
I think that this establishment is not very forthcoming on the options available and if a gringo comes in, they quote him the 40 minutes prices (same time as other ZS termas) which is R95. If you ask the options they will tell you. If you are a Carioca, you will be asking the options. (I was in there the other day and heard one gringo ask his budy: "Hey, how long should I go for -- 40 minutes or and hour?" His friend shrugged and said "Oh, make it an hour." Probably no questions on pricing. And BTW, I can't imagine staying in one of those cabinas for an hour! LOL).
So, the bottom line is that a gringo who goes for an hour and then compares the price reported on this board by someone who went for 20 minutes could think he was being ripped off.
Also, I know they have tried to charge R20 instead of the R12 for entrada, but I suspect they are just trying to raise prices in general and the old customers won't stand for it. They way I see it, these people are not evil or necessarily trying to cheat only gringos, they are Carioca. They just shrug their shoulders and if you pay a little more because of inexperience, they accept this as the way life is. Of course, this runs counter to the Northern European way of thinking where everything has a rule and is fixed -- no variation.
The larger termas ZS and downtown) are straight up and even sometimes print their whole deal on a plastic card (in English). I don't think they have any intention to mislead or cheat anyone. Quite the opposite, they are trying to avoid situations where a gringo doesn't understand and thinks he is being cheated. Bad for business.
Of course, the girls in the various establishments who are free lance are a different story. They definitely see $$$ in a gringo. But this is just free enterprise. It is not just Northern Europeans or Americans, but Colombians, Argentines, Italians -- basically any non-Cariaoca -- that they will try to up the price. There is an easy way to find out the real price. Just walk away a few times and see when you get called back. Also, remember that they are human and if they like you, the price may be different from someone they don't like so much.
I have to say that Rio is wonderful now (again, I should say) now that the crowds are gone. Cariocas are back from vacations and bars, restaurants and yes, termas are pleasantly occupied and there is an ambiance of tranquility. The often reported demise of Rio on this board is premature in my opinion. The only problem remains the price of things in dollars, but that also seems to be improving.
Beleza!!
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[QUOTE=Smooth Slim]For each trip I bring a suitcase full of Victoria Secret products. .. Yes, VS is sold in duty free at obscene prices.
Smooth[/QUOTE]
I bought VS lotions at Duty Free in Rio and paid the exact same price that I had paid in the US. $8 per unit or $25 for three.
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florida
[QUOTE=Allforrio]What is the best time to hit Florida bar the 2 times I tried it it was closed.
Once around 4pm and the next time around 11pm.
Are they a late night spot say after midnite.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Late night spot but opening times vary enormously, as does the quality of the experience. It is largely dependent on sailors being in town.
As a rough guide, I look at 8pm to 4am, although 11-3am is maybe a safer guide. If a ship is in, the place is heaving with some reasonably good quality pussy at ridiculously good prices and cabins that are excellent value for the money. The strip shows are entertaining and the girls aren't pushy. Drinks are reasonable. Quite a nice place to hang out if it's raining* as you can have a punt, relax and watch the show, then have another punt (I hope they've fixed the roof leak or whatever it was near the bar). Prices are sometimes posted on the door (about 70R for 30mins from memory) and often there's no entrance fee.
If there's no ship docked, there will just be half a dozen middle-range girls that look just doable but there's no atmosphere and they might just not bother opening or only open for a few hours at most. Service can be a bit uninspired at such times.
There's lots of buses going to Praca Maua from Copa, many of then conveniently marked - 'Praca Maua.' (eg 123, or 177). It's admittedly a short walk from the nearest Metro (Uruguiana) but you pass quite a number of termas (mid-range and cheap end) on the way, so it can be a pleasant evening stroll if you are comfortable with North Centro.
[i]*as opposed to muddy VM, running between bars in Copa, or paying st*pid prices for an average show in a Copa boite.[/i]
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[QUOTE=Helprules]Can someone that is vacationing in Brazil report on what the cambios are giving. Oanda.com is showing 1.80 and xe.com is showing 1.85. The dollar is soaring with all the fear from greece. Lets hope it last for my August trip.[/QUOTE]
Cambio changes strongly every day
We got 1.81, up from 1.80, for $800, after some prodding on Saturday May 8, on a cambio that usually gives the best rates
Note that some cambios give lower rates if your bills are not all 100 and 50ies. So avoid 20$ bills
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]I bought VS lotions at Duty Free in Rio and paid the exact same price that I had paid in the US. $8 per unit or $25 for three.[/QUOTE]Yes duty free is same price for VS lotions. I brought some down for my lady and her friends and then saw it in duty free shop. The other item the Brazilian ladies go crazy for is Caroline Herrera original cologne. I brought down a few bottles and have been handsomely rewarded.
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Duty free website for price checks
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]I bought VS lotions at Duty Free in Rio and paid the exact same price that I had paid in the US. $8 per unit or $25 for three.[/QUOTE]
In the US, for $ 35 you get 5-8 units, depending if you get a sale price. Now there might be tax or shipping on it.
In Brazil it is 11 dollars.
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Love Spell Hydrating Body Lotion 250ml
Victoria's Secret
A marca Victoria's Secret já é conhecida por seus aromas inconfundíveis. Ainda mais a Linha Secret Garden Collection que é um sucesso em todo mundo. O Love Spell Hydrating Body Lotion possui uma magnífica mistura de pêssego, flor de cerejeira e jasmin branco. Também é composto por aveia e extratos de uva, além das vitaminas antioxidantes C e E que deixam sua pele saudável, hidratada e perfumada.
Preço: US$11.00
Body Splash Spray Vanilla Lace 250ml
Victoria's Secret
Desodorante corporal em spray pós banho. Para todos os tipos de pele. A rica e sensual mistura de baunilha e orquídeas, com toques de âmbar e musk, que promove uma sensação de jovialidade e renovação. Uma fragrância deliciosa para refrescar o seu corpo e deixar a sua pele macia durante todo o dia. Embalagem com 250 ml.
Preço: US$11.00
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[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]In the US, for $ 35 you get 5-8 units, depending if you get a sale price. Now there might be tax or shipping on it.
In Brazil it is 11 dollars.
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Love Spell Hydrating Body Lotion 250ml
Victoria's Secret
A marca Victoria's Secret já é conhecida por seus aromas inconfundíveis. Ainda mais a Linha Secret Garden Collection que é um sucesso em todo mundo. O Love Spell Hydrating Body Lotion possui uma magnífica mistura de pêssego, flor de cerejeira e jasmin branco. Também é composto por aveia e extratos de uva, além das vitaminas antioxidantes C e E que deixam sua pele saudável, hidratada e perfumada.
Preço: US$11.00
Body Splash Spray Vanilla Lace 250ml
Victoria's Secret
Desodorante corporal em spray pós banho. Para todos os tipos de pele. A rica e sensual mistura de baunilha e orquídeas, com toques de âmbar e musk, que promove uma sensação de jovialidade e renovação. Uma fragrância deliciosa para refrescar o seu corpo e deixar a sua pele macia durante todo o dia. Embalagem com 250 ml.
Preço: US$11.00[/QUOTE]Wow, an ISG Victoria Secrets seminar.
Thanks fellas for the info! I didn't know VS had so many reps on ISG!
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Florida Bar:Praca Maua
[QUOTE=Allforrio]What is the best time to hit Florida bar the 2 times I tried it it was closed.
Once around 4pm and the next time around 11pm.
Are they a late night spot say after midnite.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Ok. Christopherd has pretty much summed it up for you. I was there tonight/Saturday. Some tight chassis about, 8 chicks on duty. Almost all were doable save for one or two preffering to lie on the sofa watching porno. I don`t know, perhaps i was there on a quiet evening, Saturday hell? the joint was somewhat uninspiring with my experience of Philippines and Thailand coming to the fore, just perhaps, i have a spoilt memory.
The rates as follows: 30 min = R$70 Free Motel
45 min = R$90
Opening 23:00 to 03:00am six nights a week. Closed Sunday evenings. R$10 entrance fee, Beer R$6
You can enjoy yourself prior to opening times by having a couple of beers or meal in the pleasant open air bar downstairs next to the entrance. A few Grandmamas about. However i saw some attractives, couple of young chickens, crossed my mind they were ex-dances upstairs now hawking the merchandise outdoors. Got eye-fucked by a doable tight grandmama.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]There's lots of buses going to Praca Maua from Copa, many of then conveniently marked - 'Praca Maua.' (eg 123, or 177). It's admittedly a short walk from the nearest Metro (Uruguiana) but you pass quite a number of termas (mid-range and cheap end) on the way, so it can be a pleasant evening stroll if you are comfortable with North Centro. [/i][/QUOTE]You are quite right matter of fact that is the way I venture to Florida
Very nice stroll from the metro station
And you are correct came across many nice budgeted terms (american bar terma Mv 30 etc.) and a few others.
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Shhhhhh
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Yes duty free is same price for VS lotions. I brought some down for my lady and her friends and then saw it in duty free shop. The other item the Brazilian ladies go crazy for is Caroline Herrera original cologne. I brought down a few bottles and have been handsomely rewarded.[/QUOTE]
Hope your business (and fun) is going well in Brazil.
Sometimes it is better to keep things to yourself (or a few friends) rather than post in an open forum. Pretty soon every jerk (and I do mean jerk as I see more than my share of them) will be bringing VS and Caroline Herrera. Next trip when you pull it out they will say to you -- oh honey I have VS and CH coming out my ass I want a laptop or how about just the money.
Glad you are having a good time. I was going to go to Japan later this month but have nixed that trip and think I am heading to Rio.
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been here a few days, and been to balcony and mei pataca twice on each. from what i've seen, it is as previously reported, mei is pretty much dead, afew old timers looking pissed off at the demise of helpee.
balcony is crazy and a fuckin meat market. some nice garotas who are friendly, but alot of pushy ones, who go staight to the deal. i spoke with a very large breasted black chick and she immediatley asked for a drink, and when i said not now, she told me to get on? it was raining hard last night and was very crowded in there. so i prefered it from my last visit before helpee closed. 14 reals for a caiprina!! so went straight to the skols.
i got too drunk and lost the purpose of going there and ended up taking a chick who ended up being a star fish and left before the agreed time.
the price at balcony seems to be start off 200 reals for 2 hours but negotiable to 150, but like last night, how many want to stay the full 2 hours!
1 pop and she had her hot pants back on, so i re-negotiated to 100 and 4 reals for a ride back to balcony.
i took alot of numbers so i', gonna use them during my weeks being here.
was meant to have a porn star come round this afternoon and have been waiting and waiting, but have just realised as she told me its mothers day in brazil!! all lost in translation!
learn porto!!
gonna spend alot of my time in centro now
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Question for Koolkid
Which porn star you trying to line up and how did you arrange that deal?
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Question for Koolkid
which porn star and how did you line that up?
[quote=koolkid]been here a few days, and been to balcony and mei pataca twice on each. from what i've seen, it is as previously reported, mei is pretty much dead, afew old timers looking pissed off at the demise of helpee.
balcony is crazy and a fuckin meat market. some nice garotas who are friendly, but alot of pushy ones, who go staight to the deal. i spoke with a very large breasted black chick and she immediatley asked for a drink, and when i said not now, she told me to get on? it was raining hard last night and was very crowded in there. so i prefered it from my last visit before helpee closed. 14 reals for a caiprina!! so went straight to the skols.
i got too drunk and lost the purpose of going there and ended up taking a chick who ended up being a star fish and left before the agreed time.
the price at balcony seems to be start off 200 reals for 2 hours but negotiable to 150, but like last night, how many want to stay the full 2 hours!
1 pop and she had her hot pants back on, so i re-negotiated to 100 and 4 reals for a ride back to balcony.
i took alot of numbers so i', gonna use them during my weeks being here.
was meant to have a porn star come round this afternoon and have been waiting and waiting, but have just realised as she told me its mothers day in brazil!! all lost in translation!
learn porto!!
gonna spend alot of my time in centro now[/quote]
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[quote=koolkid]been here a few days, and been to balcony and mei pataca twice on each. from what i've seen, it is as previously reported, mei is pretty much dead, afew old timers looking pissed off at the demise of helpee.
balcony is crazy and a fuckin meat market. some nice garotas who are friendly, but alot of pushy ones, who go staight to the deal. i spoke with a very large breasted black chick and she immediatley asked for a drink, and when i said not now, she told me to get on? it was raining hard last night and was very crowded in there. so i prefered it from my last visit before helpee closed. 14 reals for a caiprina!! so went straight to the skols.
i got too drunk and lost the purpose of going there and ended up taking a chick who ended up being a star fish and left before the agreed time.
the price at balcony seems to be start off 200 reals for 2 hours but negotiable to 150, but like last night, how many want to stay the full 2 hours!
1 pop and she had her hot pants back on, so i re-negotiated to 100 and 4 reals for a ride back to balcony.
i took alot of numbers so i', gonna use them during my weeks being here.
was meant to have a porn star come round this afternoon and have been waiting and waiting, but have just realised as she told me its mothers day in brazil!! all lost in translation!
learn porto!!
gonna spend alot of my time in centro now[/quote]i thank you for not buying that chick a drink. the attitudes of those balcony girls are outrages. my last visit i took a girl from balcony and we agreed on a price for completa. at my apartment she changed the price right in the middle of us having sex. we had agree for r200. when i was ready to hit the bunda she looked over her shoulder at me and said r400. no problem, she didn't get it. once we finished she wanted a new towel for her shower and i told her no and she got now taxi money. mongers need to set some standards with these girls. i think i will only let them shower before i fuck them and no shower when they are done fucking. in fact, we oughta charge them for the 2nd shower. and taxi? her going home to nova iguacu is not my problem.
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Help's Replacements - where are they now?
I haven't been to Rio or Brazil since Nov 2008. Wondering where to go. Read the last few days of posts. (Sorry, I don't want to research the last few months of posts on Rio). Seems from the posts that the Help girls went to Balcony Bar and the small disco next door (to the left) and upstairs from Balcony. Is that true? Balcony Bar used to have lower quality programa girls, but I guess it has improved quality with the Help girls there now.
1) Any big discos in Rio with Programa girls?
2) Also, a lot of Programa girls used to hang out at night in front of Cafe Atlantico, next to where Help disco used to be. Is Cafe Atlantico dead at night, as far as having action, now that Help closed?
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2) Also, a lot of Programa girls used to hang out at night in front of Cafe Atlantico, next to where Help disco used to be. Is Cafe Atlantico dead at night, as far as having action, now that Help closed?[/QUOTE]Is Cafe Atlantico dead? Yeah, it's really dead! Hell, it doesn't exist anymore. It was bulldozed along with Help.
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[QUOTE=Henry R]Seems from the posts that the Help girls went to Balcony Bar and the small disco next door (to the left) and upstairs from Balcony. Is that true? Balcony Bar used to have lower quality programa girls, but I guess it has improved quality with the Help girls there now. [/QUOTE]
True.
Balcony used to have low quality GPs. After adding a bunch of low to middle quality Help-GPs the quality has improved slightly. The quality is now better, but still not good.
[QUOTE=Henry R]
1) Any big discos in Rio with Programa girls?
2) Also, a lot of Programa girls used to hang out at night in front of Cafe Atlantico, next to where Help disco used to be. Is Cafe Atlantico dead at night, as far as having action, now that Help closed?[/QUOTE]
Discos with a lot of GPs? No.
Cafe Atlantico? I guess you mean Terraço Atlântico. It's gone.
Meia Pataca is still working, but not very exciting.
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[QUOTE=DaveWave]I too went to Monte Carlo on friday night and it was ground zero for boorish behavior.
Hey I'm all for a little fun but these groups of men, sailors or whomever, were just downright obnoxious to everyone in sight. Learn some *^&%% manners boys.
Naval dockings are not the best time to experience the termas love. Obviously.[/QUOTE]That is the trouble with the Termas. If it is full of local ass grabbers (mal educados), it can spoil the ambiance of the place, and makes the whole experience cold and brutal. I don't frequent the termas anymore due to this fact. The police who get free entrance can be the worst offenders. Never been a big fan of the termas.
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Sir... these girls are human, not plastic dolls.
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]I thank you for not buying that chick a drink. The attitudes of those Balcony girls are outrages. My last visit I took a girl from Balcony and we agreed on a price for completa. At my apartment she changed the price right in the middle of us having sex. We had agree for R200. When I was ready to hit the bunda she looked over her shoulder at me and said R400. No problem, she didn't get it. Once we finished she wanted a new towel for her shower and I told her no and she got now taxi money. Mongers need to set some standards with these girls. I think I will only let them shower before I fuck them and no shower when they are done fucking. In fact, we oughta charge them for the 2nd shower. And taxi? Her going home to Nova Iguacu is not my problem.[/QUOTE]
One thing is defending your money and another one is treating people like dirt.
Sir... these girls are human, not plastic dolls.
Ever wonder why brazilians talk about "some gringos" like they do?
The way you behave, you'd rather be fucking plastic dolls.
It would be cheaper.
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Mutual respect.
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]I thank you for not buying that chick a drink. The attitudes of those Balcony girls are outrages. My last visit I took a girl from Balcony and we agreed on a price for completa. At my apartment she changed the price right in the middle of us having sex. We had agree for R200. When I was ready to hit the bunda she looked over her shoulder at me and said R400. No problem, she didn't get it. Once we finished she wanted a new towel for her shower and I told her no and she got now taxi money. Mongers need to set some standards with these girls. I think I will only let them shower before I fuck them and no shower when they are done fucking. In fact, we oughta charge them for the 2nd shower. And taxi? Her going home to Nova Iguacu is not my problem.[/QUOTE]
It might sound a bit harsh what you wrote, but I get your point.
You tell the GP what you want, what's going to be included in the session (BBBJ, anal etc), number of pops and the time. If she's OK with that you agrees on the price.
If the girl doesn't fulfill the deal or tries to raise the price it's very bad manners. That's unacceptable.
Copacabana has a lot of these GP-vultures who will take any chance at all to rip-off gringos. Of course there are also a lot of sweet, honest GPs who will fulfill their service obligations and much more. Just pick the right ones.
Usually when a GP is treated with respect she will respond in the same way and give a good service.
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I agree with Kid and J-ceo
[QUOTE=Jota Erre]One thing is defending your money and another one is treating people like dirt.
Sir... these girls are human, not plastic dolls.
Ever wonder why brazilians talk about "some gringos" like they do?
The way you behave, you'd rather be fucking plastic dolls.
It would be cheaper.[/QUOTE]
Some of the humans you refer to over there act very differently. While some are great, others are dishonest, some are thieves, and others come with bad attitudes.
Kid didn't want to buy a girl a drink and she tells him to shove off. So you think thats acceptable behavior of the GdPs part. No! She should work for the drink. Give some conversation and a reason for him to buy her a drink.
He did the right thing. She treated him like dirt and an ATM. But he wasn't buying.
J-ceo makes a deal. Back at the apt, in the middle of doing what she agreed to get paid for, this particular human you speak of doubles the price. Are you kidding me. Thats bullshit. She tried to take him for a sap and he wasn't having it.
Then she wants additional cab fare. Thats also shady. It wasn't included in the deal. If she wanted cab fare, she should have said that upfront. Perhaps if she had performed as expected, she may have gotten it.
Even then - some of them will take the (needed) cab fare and go right back to Balcony. While many of them will take the cab fare and then just take the bus or the white vans. Then they keep the extra cab fare for themselves. Or they lie and say they live far and want you to pay for their ride home. Again, more money in their pocket and out of yours.
The way I see it, the GdPs got there on their own, so they can use their earnings to get themselves home. We pay to fly over there right? Then the girls should lower the prices to help offset our costs to get home too.
The point is - don't let them take you for a fool. Gringo or not, its not ok for them to try and pull that crap on anyone. If they act nice and perform, they get treated nice. If not they get nothing.
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It's definitely cheaper.
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]Some of the humans you refer to over there act very differently. While some are great, others are dishonest, some are thieves, and others come with bad attitudes.
The point is - don't let them take you for a fool. Gringo or not, its not ok for them to try and pull that crap on anyone. If they act nice and perform, they get treated nice. If not they get nothing.[/QUOTE]
The point is that you should differentiate between a cool beautiful girl and an ugly thief.
And if you realize the girl is a thief... then I wouldn't even bother having sex with her.
Jamacainceo wrote: "I think I will only let them shower before I fuck them and no shower when they are done fucking. In fact, we oughta charge them for the 2nd shower".
Nice rule, pal. For me sex should be fun and special. Even if you're paying for it.
Even more if you're paying for it!
Otherwise, as I said, you'd rather be fucking a plastic doll. It's definitely cheaper.
But no fun.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]It might sound a bit harsh what you wrote, but I get your point.
You tell the GP what you want, what's going to be included in the session (BBBJ, anal etc), number of pops and the time. If she's OK with that you agrees on the price.
If the girl doesn't fulfill the deal or tries to raise the price it's very bad manners. That's unacceptable.
Copacabana has a lot of these GP-vultures who will take any chance at all to rip-off gringos. Of course there are also a lot of sweet, honest GPs who will fulfill their service obligations and much more. Just pick the right ones.
Usually when a GP is treated with respect she will respond in the same way and give a good service.[/QUOTE]Sperto,
I agree. I do not treat all girls the same. But the girls on Atlantica have changed. Once you make your price up front for what you wanted then both parties would agree or disagree. But to change the deal in the middle of the program is purely dishonest. Then I see her at the beach and she asks me to take her again as if it as perfectly alright. Too many mongers reward bad behavior. Such gdp see nonBrazilians as stupid gringos, and the Balcony girls are displaying this with dishonest behavior. On my Jan-Feb 2010 trip I found a beautiful 22 year old morena who comes from around Maracana stadium. We agreed on R$150 at 6pm. But she must be able to catch her last bus. We spent a long-time in my apartment. When we were done, she missed her last bus. When I showered, she already changed the sheets and pillow cases on the bed. I walked her down and put her in a Taxi and gave her R$50 more. When I was back in Rio Mar-Apr, she saw me in Blame it on Rio before I saw her and her girlfriend. I helplessly took her back to my apartment, after treating her to a nice kilo restaurant, and the price was the same. We talk about her 8 year old kid and laughed about life. She got pregnant at 14 and hasn't sen the father since. She doesn't where fancy clothes and doesn't mingle with the Copa regulars. She makes enough for her bills and sons school needs. She's happy with her necessities and works for her son. I will be in Rio on my 3rd trip this year, and I will bring her some inexpensive clothes and shoes. Not a lot, but she is nice, and not like that Balcony hoodrat.
Like you said Sperto, carefully pick the girls. Unfortunatly, that bad apple caught my eye as the first girl I fucked arriving that day. And she saw me looking at her bigass and danced around me. The clue was when she asked me to buy her a coke. Chicks like her go up and down Ave Atlantica begging in between fuck sessions, from the beach, Meia Pataca and Balcony. I've never seen her before. She could not make it in Help.
Help closing is a bonanza for girls like her.
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[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]Some of the humans you refer to over there act very differently. While some are great, others are dishonest, some are thieves, and others come with bad attitudes.
Kid didn't want to buy a girl a drink and she tells him to shove off. So you think thats acceptable behavior of the GdPs part. No! She should work for the drink. Give some conversation and a reason for him to buy her a drink.
He did the right thing. She treated him like dirt and an ATM. But he wasn't buying.
J-ceo makes a deal. Back at the apt, in the middle of doing what she agreed to get paid for, this particular human you speak of doubles the price. Are you kidding me. Thats bullshit. She tried to take him for a sap and he wasn't having it.
Then she wants additional cab fare. Thats also shady. It wasn't included in the deal. If she wanted cab fare, she should have said that upfront. Perhaps if she had performed as expected, she may have gotten it.
Even then. Some of them will take the (needed) cab fare and go right back to Balcony. While many of them will take the cab fare and then just take the bus or the white vans. Then they keep the extra cab fare for themselves. Or they lie and say they live far and want you to pay for their ride home. Again, more money in their pocket and out of yours.
The way I see it, the GdPs got there on their own, so they can use their earnings to get themselves home. We pay to fly over there right? Then the girls should lower the prices to help offset our costs to get home too.
The point is. Don't let them take you for a fool. Gringo or not, its not ok for them to try and pull that crap on anyone. If they act nice and perform, they get treated nice. If not they get nothing.[/QUOTE]Exactly Pipe Layer! Many, not all, see gringos as a ATM. They sell pussy instead of chicalettes. Their vendors like the other vendors, or "gringo hunters", because they know they can't approach a Brazilian with that bullshit. Once in Help a well known blonde tried to tell me I owed her R$200 because she stood next to me in Help because I wouldn't take her to my apartment. She thought she was al that, and I said she wasn't. She followed me outside of Help cursing. Next to the police she even yelled, "I will call the police! " I said there they are call them. She tried to follow me to my apartment for many blocks before I lost her. Now I see her and she looks the other way, because I wasn't THAT stupid gringo. The girl that this conversation is about, I knew she would try the cab BS. My apartment was at Aire Saldana and Miguel Lemos behind old Help. It was a long hike for her back to Balcony. I do not treat all girls the same, but I treat hoodrats the same.
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre]The point is that you should differentiate between a cool beautiful girl and an ugly thief.
And if you realize the girl is a thief... then I wouldn't even bother having sex with her.[/QUOTE]I don't know why I'm getting into this. But what about a beautiful thief and a cool ugly girl? I think most of the time you don't realize an SP is a thief until after you have had sex with her, she has gone home, and you find out something is missing. Maybe you are mongering in a reverse dimension.
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]I thank you for not buying that chick a drink. The attitudes of those Balcony girls are outrages. My last visit I took a girl from Balcony and we agreed on a price for completa. At my apartment she changed the price right in the middle of us having sex. We had agree for R200. When I was ready to hit the bunda she looked over her shoulder at me and said R400. No problem, she didn't get it. Once we finished she wanted a new towel for her shower and I told her no and she got now taxi money. Mongers need to set some standards with these girls. I think I will only let them shower before I fuck them and no shower when they are done fucking. In fact, we oughta charge them for the 2nd shower. And taxi? Her going home to Nova Iguacu is not my problem.[/QUOTE]
Maybe 'these girls' is a bit general, but you pulled a vulture and had to re-trench.
Of course, one tries to find a decent honest working girl before making the decision to take her back. Not perhaps the easiest of prospects in the hurly burly of Balcony. Then the other thing is 'not to be in a position' to accede to unreasonable demands. I have a miserable expression when I look in my pocket and 'happen' to find a measly R--- (which surprisingly enough is the amount agreed)* is all I have left. Should I later want to tip her, I might suddenly recall an extra 20R I have in another jacket or something like that. The towels in my bathroom are the only ones in sight and I'm happy to share them with her. And if I ever went to such places as I've passed on the way to Petropolis, I would only be able to afford one of those big yellow buses marked 'Nova Iguacu' lol. I treat her as I treat myself.
But even the best plans go astray. I took the singer (the pretty blonde one) from Nogueira back one night. I felt she had a good rep as her sister had been my regular and a thoroughly beautiful human being. I'd mentioned a price (a generous one, 100R or maybe even slightly more). When we got into the apartment she went into spooky mode - you know, like when a horse has been spooked - as if it's been drinking Red Bull for 24hrs or needs some white stuff up its nose. 'Money up front!!' she barks. Errrm, yeah, right. That's not how it works, carinhosa. Suddenly she couldn't remember the price and was making wild stabs like it was a guessing game she had to beat me at. This girl was in a bad way. I suggest she relax. She has already polished off most of a Skol before spilling the rest in my apartment. I offer to give her a back rub. She wants money before I lay a finger on her.
Now this is a girl who has flirted outrageously with me while she's been behind the mike, made me the envy of guys in the restaurant when she sits on my lap at the end of the number, and has the waiter staff running around like lap-dogs. But I have to switch into disinterested mode quickly. And nicely - she is well in with people I don't particularly want to be on the wrong side of. I sit down, take a deep breath, express my delight at how beautiful the sun is at this time of day. She responds with, 'You want sex with me, you give me some money now!' I reply that I am not bothered. If she wants to do normal then we can have nice relaxed sex and I will of course pay her the agreed amount afterwards. Later that morning. Before she leaves. And she can have a sleep if she likes as it's late. And we can maybe bonk again before the day starts properly. But only if she wants to. If she doesn't, that's fine, I'm not bothered. She can dash off if she doesn't want my business or to stay for the sun. She changes to desperate mode, saying she's got no money. I don't believe this but she has to be able to save face so I give her 20R cancellation fee, which I thought was reasonable (my flat is just yards from Nogueira).
I should add that if a girl is nice, I am pretty nice to her. I don't pay over the odds, and would only pay a 'taxi' if she undercharged me or I wanted to treat her (taxi money is tips - unless she's from an agency, in which case it is part of the deal). But I will order in pizza, and maybe chocolate pizza for sweets as well. I will give her a jolly good back massage. I'll give her opportunity to come. I'll make sure she gets copies of any photos we take. I'll make her feel like a princess. And I will buy her a drink when I next see her and increase her street cred with her colleagues if appropriate. I believe in treating everyone as an individual. I don't encourage high-flying beggars but I do respect a gem when I see one.
[quote=Mr Ent]I don't know why I'm getting into this. But what about a beautiful thief.[/quote] In that case it's 'ok' if she's not actually stealing from [i]me[/i]. I did have a girl trying to sneak money from my back pocket while I was giving her head (I'd offered my rolled up trousers as a pillow). There was only drinks money - about 10R - in my pocket, if that. I told her off and carried on. :rolleyes: :D
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What is unacceptable
[QUOTE=Sperto]It might sound a bit harsh what you wrote, but I get your point.
You tell the GP what you want, what's going to be included in the session (BBBJ, anal etc), number of pops and the time. If she's OK with that you agrees on the price.
If the girl doesn't fulfill the deal or tries to raise the price it's very bad manners. That's unacceptable.
Copacabana has a lot of these GP-vultures who will take any chance at all to rip-off gringos. Of course there are also a lot of sweet, honest GPs who will fulfill their service obligations and much more. Just pick the right ones.
Usually when a GP is treated with respect she will respond in the same way and give a good service.[/QUOTE]
It is never OK to use violence to get what you want with a woman. No means no. There is no gray area.
Sperto puts it best when he says to "just pick the right ones." What was nice about Help and even outside was that you had a chance to size the girls up, even if you didn't speak Portuguese. At a place like Balcony, it is difficult to do that. It is not so easy to pick the right ones these days. Unfortunately, the vultures know that.
Guys used to come to Rio for the "girlfriend experience." Now there is nothing girlfriend about it, unless of course, you have a girlfriend.
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre]The point is that you should differentiate between a cool beautiful girl and an ugly thief.
And if you realize the girl is a thief... then I wouldn't even bother having sex with her.
Jamacainceo wrote: "I think I will only let them shower before I fuck them and no shower when they are done fucking. In fact, we oughta charge them for the 2nd shower".
Nice rule, pal. For me sex should be fun and special. Even if you're paying for it.
Even more if you're paying for it!
Otherwise, as I said, you'd rather be fucking a plastic doll. It's definitely cheaper.
But no fun.[/QUOTE]Dude,
If I don't want a girl to use my clean towels or take a taxi after I paid her half the average Brazilian monthly wage, especially if she can't keep her end of the bargain. I had to take her to my apartment by taxi, why am I obligated to pay her way back to her job [Balcony].
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]It is never OK to use violence to get what you want with a woman. No means no. There is no gray area.
Sperto puts it best when he says to "just pick the right ones." What was nice about Help and even outside was that you had a chance to size the girls up, even if you didn't speak Portuguese. At a place like Balcony, it is difficult to do that. It is not so easy to pick the right ones these days. Unfortunately, the vultures know that.
Guys used to come to Rio for the "girlfriend experience." Now there is nothing girlfriend about it, unless of course, you have a girlfriend.[/QUOTE]GFE: When the girl tricks you good, and keeps you coming back for more.
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Don't get me wrong.
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Dude,
If I don't want a girl to use my clean towels or take a taxi after I paid her half the average Brazilian monthly wage, especially if she can't keep her end of the bargain. I had to take her to my apartment by taxi, why am I obligated to pay her way back to her job [Balcony].[/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending that specific girl.
What I'm saying is that if you gonna treat ALL girls like dirt from now on... not only isn't fair, but you're gonna have very little fun.
By the way, next time the girl pays you for the second shower, let me know. Dude.
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Well stop all the bickering I just had the pleasure of 3 hours worth of the pornstar Darlene aka Delanie. She arrived before time with a cracking smile and full of enthusiasm, but not a word of english, thats my bad!
She had a bag full of different sets of underwear and laid it all on the bed and asked me to choose what set. Yeah like, I still cant get over your ass, and you want me to choose what underwear your gonna be wearin!
Shes a little bigger now from what I saw on her videos, but I'm not complaining
She lives 2 hours from centro so all aragements had to be made well in advance as she does not travel in that often.
A great session which was completa and cost 250 reals for a 3 hour stay. No hassel and she was not pushy on the time, Great GFE.
Expensive? Well yeah maybe! But it does all what it says on the can!
We are arranging a festa for this week with some of her friends!!
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]
We are arranging a festa for this week with some of her friends!![/QUOTE]
I love it, man you are a cool kid.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Well stop all the bickering I just had the pleasure of 3 hours worth of the pornstar Darlene aka Delanie.
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She lives 2 hours from centro so all aragements had to be made well in advance as she does not travel in that often.
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A great session which was completa and cost 250 reals for a 3 hour stay. No hassel and she was not pushy on the time, Great GFE.
Expensive? Well yeah maybe! But it does all what it says on the can!
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How did you know of her and her contact info?
I don't think it's expensive for 3 hours of completa gatinha. I am surprised that she would make a 4 hour round trip plus 3 hours of session for only $R250. Maybe you sweetened the deal with some Victoria's Secret lotions from the duty free? ;)
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Disco next to Balcony Bar
How is that disco next door to Balcony Bar (to the left) and upstairs? I read the Help girls go there now? Is that disco any good?
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[QUOTE=Henry R]How is that disco next door to Balcony Bar (to the left) and upstairs? I read the Help girls go there now? Is that disco any good?[/QUOTE]Dolce Vita, I was there a month ago and I thought it was alright. My wingman found a girl and was pleased. I was on a burn out and didn't feel like being bothered. I did see some Help girls there. But the place is small as earlier posters stated. Many of the vultures won't spend the money to go in, in my opinion.
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre]Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending that specific girl.
What I'm saying is that if you gonna treat ALL girls like dirt from now on... not only isn't fair, but you're gonna have very little fun.
By the way, next time the girl pays you for the second shower, let me know. Dude.[/QUOTE]No problem.
Understood! Dude!
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Good Luck
[QUOTE=Jota Erre]The point is that you should differentiate between a cool beautiful girl and an ugly thief.
And if you realize the girl is a thief... then I wouldn't even bother having sex with her.[/QUOTE]
Good luck trying to figure that out ahead of time. They usually behave during the screening. She must have been cool at first otherwise he would not have taken her. The bullhshit comes after. Thats when you show her to the door.
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Wow
[QUOTE=Koolkid]She lives 2 hours from centro so all aragements had to be made well in advance as she does not travel in that often.
A great session which was completa and cost 250 reals for a 3 hour stay. No hassel and she was not pushy on the time, Great GFE.
[/QUOTE]
3 hours for R250 and no mention of cab fare either. And no porto skills.
OK, inquiring minds want to know - how did you make that happen???
Also, what films has she made. I'd like to have a look see ;-))
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[QUOTE=Henry R]How is that disco next door to Balcony Bar (to the left) and upstairs? I read the Help girls go there now? Is that disco any good?[/QUOTE]
The disco/bar is called ur...ur? nothing going on anyhow:D
Seriously though, i went to Balcony three x, not much going on but a little music next door to Dolche Vita.
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take a quick peek
She has made at least 20 videos. Here is a sample.
[url]http://www.xvideos.com/video241222/darlene_metro[/url]
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]3 hours for R250 and no mention of cab fare either. And no porto skills.
OK, inquiring minds want to know - how did you make that happen???
Also, what films has she made. I'd like to have a look see ;-))[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]3 hours for R250 and no mention of cab fare either. And no porto skills.
OK, inquiring minds want to know - how did you make that happen???
Also, what films has she made. I'd like to have a look see ;-))[/QUOTE]
I emailed her 1st and asked her if she was still working at any of the
centro termas, and she gave me her number and asked me to call her.
When she was here she sat on my lap while we did alot of communicating
through google translate, which was kinda fun.
For everyone asking, soroya works in sau paulo and luana seems to have disappeared, she said no one knows where she is.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]I emailed her 1st and asked her if she was still working at any of the
centro termas, and she gave me her number and asked me to call her.
When she was here she sat on my lap while we did alot of communicating
through google translate, which was kinda fun.
For everyone asking, soroya works in Sau Paulo and luana seems to have disappeared, she said no one knows where she is.[/QUOTE]What's her email address?
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]I emailed her 1st and asked her if she was still working at any of the
centro termas, and she gave me her number and asked me to call her.
When she was here she sat on my lap while we did alot of communicating
through google translate, which was kinda fun.
For everyone asking, soroya works in sau paulo and luana seems to have disappeared, she said no one knows where she is.[/QUOTE]Good news to hear that Darlene is back on the scene, I sessioned with her in 502 last year.. fantastic fun!. I read on various forums that she had died.. so her "return" is great news. Is she planning to go back to the termas or freelance?
Feedback on the festa!!
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]I emailed her 1st and asked her if she was still working at any of the
centro termas, and she gave me her number and asked me to call her.
When she was here she sat on my lap while we did alot of communicating
through google translate, which was kinda fun.
For everyone asking, soroya works in sau paulo and luana seems to have disappeared, she said no one knows where she is.[/QUOTE]
I saw Darlene last month too. She said that she really wasnt interested in returning to the termas. I guess now she has such a large fan base that she can make alot more money going to appointments, than sitting in a terma all day long.
Luana doesnt work in a terma anymore, for now she is working in the regular world. She works as a receptionist in a womans clinic.
Both are really cool people and alot of fun to hang out with. Add in the great sex and you have a winning combo!!
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Maps
PREFACE: DON'T VISIT A CENTRO CASA WITH YOUR FRIENDS. Like the buildings on Rio Branco, for example, or anyplace else with an address containing "Sala". They are not party places and do not like crowds of gringos at the door. They will turn you away. Leave the horny buddies, colleagues, relatives, pets, etc. out of it. Go alone and enjoy.
Just sharing a couple of cartographic treasures that I haven't seen in this thread before.
[url]http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/kmz/rj.kmz[/url]
[url]http://www.isaw-db.com/map_rdj.html[/url]
In the Google Maps directions function, select 'by public transit' and it will tell you how to arrive via onibus or metro. Boa Sorte!
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1]She has made at least 20 videos. Here is a sample.
[url]http://www.xvideos.com/video241222/darlene_metro[/url][/QUOTE]How and when did Brazilian women get to be shaped like that? You don't see old ass ladies running around Brazil with hips and ass like that of yesteryear.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]How and when did Brazilian women get to be shaped like that? You don't see old ass ladies running around Brazil with hips and ass like that of yesteryear.[/QUOTE]
Some women get that way by using steroids, but it fucks with the face and bone structure, but a lot get that way by having kids, but hitting the gym. I used to know a real skinny peruvian girl here in the states, and she had a kid, but kept in good shape by going to the gym frequently with cardio and weights. I saw her a couple years after she had the kid, and wow she got curvy as hell. I'm guessing if a girl is average build and has a kid, but keeps hitting the gym and eating right, she could get that coke bottle figure no problems.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]PREFACE: DON'T VISIT A CENTRO CASA WITH YOUR FRIENDS. Like the buildings on Rio Branco, for example, or anyplace else with an address containing "Sala". They are not party places and do not like crowds of gringos at the door. They will turn you away. Leave the horny buddies, colleagues, relatives, pets, etc. out of it. Go alone and enjoy.
Just sharing a couple of cartographic treasures that I haven't seen in this thread before.
[url]http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/kmz/rj.kmz[/url]
[url]http://www.isaw-db.com/map_rdj.html[/url]
In the Google Maps directions function, select 'by public transit' and it will tell you how to arrive via onibus or metro. Boa Sorte![/QUOTE]I agree about not going to Rio Branco in crowds. We had this discussion a few weeks ago.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]How and when did Brazilian women get to be shaped like that? You don't see old ass ladies running around Brazil with hips and ass like that of yesteryear.[/QUOTE]This is her most recent video from March 2010.. bunda-full!!
[url]http://www.xvideos.com/video406314/brazilian_ass_queen_darlene_amaro_aka_delanie[/url]
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That's why I love this place!
I see them shaped like her in a lot of places. Not exactly like that, but close. Plenty of cheapo places that locals know about and don't want foreigners to go and destroy. There must be something in the water :D
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]How and when did Brazilian women get to be shaped like that? You don't see old ass ladies running around Brazil with hips and ass like that of yesteryear.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Frenchieboy]Thanks BS for your comment
I don't like terma or FKK (was in Artemis in Berlin last year)in Germany because for me I feel this places like only bussiness sex places: fuck, relax, fuck; relax.
My friend doesn't like orgy, one time we tried in Saigon and during the party with 2 girls he always laugh (maybe nervous reflex) so he had always disturbed me so we have decided not to do it again but with another friend in Poland for example no problem 2 mens and 2 girls, 2 men and 1 girl and me alone with 2 girls
Meia Pataca was very close to the apartment maybe 3 minutes by walk and we left at last 10 pm with a girl so no need taxi
In my apartment We never had any problem with girls, I have paid fot a stay and received who I wanted, the doorman was so funny He shown me on his mobile phone many Xvideo very very hard!
Now I think that it is better to meet girls in Bar or Pub than agency because you see the girl, talk and discuss prices, I would like to tell you that last week in Meia Pataca they weren't a lot men so most of the girls were free and were very friendly with us, sometimes difficult to choose.[/QUOTE]I spent a few years having the occasional visit to the various Rio termas. What puts me off is being in the bar with all the other Johns.
I arrived at MC one day to see one girl I had a bit of a thing for working with a very old fat ugly guy. She often would ask if she could stay over at my apartment. I would occasionally say OK, but as beautiful as she was I was never able to climax with her after that, without thinking of another sex experience. I just couldn't get the ugly old fat guy image out of my head. (I know this is her job. It's these brutal images in the termas that just kill it for me) I don't visit the termas any more, unless I am dragged there with a friend. I find that the whole concept gives me the creeps. Especially if it's full of local "mal educado" ass grabbers. It's a waste of money for me.
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..the water? what water?
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]I see them shaped like her in a lot of places. Not exactly like that, but close. Plenty of cheapo places that locals know about and don't want foreigners to go and destroy. There must be something in the water :D[/QUOTE]
Yeah. It's definitely the water..................! :D
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Well stop all the bickering I just had the pleasure of 3 hours worth of the pornstar Darlene aka Delanie. She arrived before time with a cracking smile and full of enthusiasm, but not a word of english, thats my bad!
She had a bag full of different sets of underwear and laid it all on the bed and asked me to choose what set. Yeah like, I still cant get over your ass, and you want me to choose what underwear your gonna be wearin!
Shes a little bigger now from what I saw on her videos, but I'm not complaining
She lives 2 hours from centro so all aragements had to be made well in advance as she does not travel in that often.
A great session which was completa and cost 250 reals for a 3 hour stay. No hassel and she was not pushy on the time, Great GFE.
Expensive? Well yeah maybe! But it does all what it says on the can!
We are arranging a festa for this week with some of her friends!![/QUOTE]
Great to know that Darlene is back in GDP mode.
Koolkid , can you give her contact info if possible. I think you will need her authorization for this but she could have an escort ad or social profile (orkut, facebook, myspace,etc).
Please post pics of this beauty so we can see how she is looking and waiting for feedback on the festa that should be very fun.
Brugal
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Bunda - jacaré
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]How and when did Brazilian women get to be shaped like that?[/QUOTE]
My guess it's because of the race mixture. White, latino, indian and most important african genes and, voilà, you get best shaped butts in the world. I love those well shaped butts, small or big.
What also impress me is the way the brazilian women move. They don't walk, they flow smoothly with their butts going boing-boing. Their butts whips like crocodile-tails. :p
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]How and when did Brazilian women get to be shaped like that? [/QUOTE]
A first: have to agree with Sperto here.
With nonetheless the only reserve that this statement obviously takes no account of the alarming epidemic of obesity that the country is experiencing -over 22% of the population.
:D
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Centro
Went looking for Uruguiana 210 today at around mid-day as reported by
Christopherd
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=976432&highlight=Uruguiana#post976432[/url]
I couldn't seem to find it, I went to the Mcdonalds on the corner and even crossed over to the other side but no luck.
It was so busy in centro I decided to head to BA85 at around 12.15 there were around 5 girls on each floor and every floor was open. Nothing really special, so picked a mulata from floor 2. The cabins were very basic and quite clean, as I expected them to be dirty and smelly as previously reported.
The man behind the counter wasn't the freindliest of people and snatched my
money.
One question, is BBBJ standard at this place, because she started off, and then I realised, that this aint no terma and asked her to put the condom on.
Not a bad little session, it is what it is, and cost 20 reals. My feet were killing so stopped for a chop and went looking for 502 but this was still shut.
Going to print spertos map and take it with me next time so I don't do so much walking around.
Also try and take some kind of cleaning wipe with you, got these from Thailand. All they hand you is a couple of sheets of tissue, so these come in handy!
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]One question, is BBBJ standard at this place, because she started off, and then I realised, that this aint no terma and asked her to put the condom on.[/QUOTE]
At BA85 it's up to the girl if she wants to do a BBBJ. They usually allows it after a quick examination (they grab junior like a rabbit holding a carrot and takes some quick sniffs to be sure it's clean).
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[QUOTE=Sperto]My guess it's because of the race mixture. White, latino, indian and most important african genes and, voilà, you get best shaped butts in the world. I love those well shaped butts, small or big.
What also impress me is the way the brazilian women move. They don't walk, they flow smoothly with their butts going boing-boing. Their butts whips like crocodile-tails. :p[/QUOTE]My guess is that Portuguese with that African mixture...Portuguese women tend to be thick and we already know how African women are:) what a lovely milkshake.
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[quote=Koolkid]Went looking for Uruguiana 210 today at around mid-day as reported by
Christopherd
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...iana#post976432[/url]
I couldn't seem to find it, I went to the Mcdonalds on the corner and even crossed over to the other side but no luck.[/quote]
I'm trying to think where you went. There's a burger joint, I don't remember offhand if it's Macdonalds, on the section of Uruguaiana before Pres.Vargas, which is the big multi-lane freeway. So still on the same side as BA.
If you ' crossed over to the other side', negotiating all the traffic and bus lanes without getting killed, you're almost there. Uruguaiana continues the other side of the freeway. You'll find if you keep going a few yards further you come to a small intersection.
On the left, just before the intersection, is Afrodite (which has never been worth bothering with when I've looked in) and a place that sells yakisoba. The new place I mentioned (if it hasn't suddenly closed down) is opposite. If there's nothing to your liking there are several others you can try in the immediate vicinity rather than crossing back over Vargas. They vary, none of them on the scale of Ba85, but sometimes you can be lucky. If not, there are also mid-range termas in the area or you can catch a Vargas bus half a dozen stops to VM (get off promptly at the next stop after the posh new train bridge in your right).
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]I'm trying to think where you went. There's a burger joint, I don't remember offhand if it's Macdonalds, on the section of Uruguaiana before Pres.Vargas, which is the big multi-lane freeway. So still on the same side as BA.
If you ' crossed over to the other side', negotiating all the traffic and bus lanes without getting killed, you're almost there. Uruguaiana continues the other side of the freeway. You'll find if you keep going a few yards further you come to a small intersection.
On the left, just before the intersection, is Afrodite (which has never been worth bothering with when I've looked in) and a place that sells yakisoba. The new place I mentioned (if it hasn't suddenly closed down) is opposite. If there's nothing to your liking there are several others you can try in the immediate vicinity rather than crossing back over Vargas. They vary, none of them on the scale of Ba85, but sometimes you can be lucky. If not, there are also mid-range termas in the area or you can catch a Vargas bus half a dozen stops to VM (get off promptly at the next stop after the posh new train bridge in your right).[/QUOTE]There are more than a few hole in the walls on the 'other' side of Vargas all the way to S. Bento. No need to go running around over there with a casa map. Just stroll around and see what you stumble into. It's kind of a nice neighborhood to walk around in the afternoon. In casas, I've even been recognized by girls who had seen me in Help. Some girls just walked to work from their homes in the favela nearby.
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[QUOTE=Zingadoon]There are more than a few hole in the walls on the 'other' side of Vargas all the way to S. Bento. No need to go running around over there with a casa map. Just stroll around and see what you stumble into. It's kind of a nice neighborhood to walk around in the afternoon. In casas, I've even been recognized by girls who had seen me in Help. Some girls just walked to work from their homes in the favela nearby.[/QUOTE]
Truer words never spoken! The area's far more respectable than it looks, and the 'holes in the wall' as Zingadoon so neatly describes them are fun to discover. Make a special trip to a special one and you might be disappointed. But troll around a dozen and, even if there are only two or three mingers in most of them, the sense of adventure is fun and you'll usually strike lucky eventually. (Have just broken my rule and posted a pic in the photo thread to whet appetite).
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]On the left, just before the intersection, is Afrodite (which has never been worth bothering with when I've looked in) [/QUOTE]Not worth bothering with? Is this coming from the man that drug me to every crack and crevice in centro? If Christopherd can't squeeze anything out of it then they should have closed down a long time ago!
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[QUOTE=Sperto]At BA85 it's up to the girl if she wants to do a BBBJ. They usually allows it after a quick examination (they grab junior like a rabbit holding a carrot and takes some quick sniffs to be sure it's clean).[/QUOTE]
Guys say this all the time to imply that the girls give BBBJ to guys they think are clean. But I know girls in BA 85 who do not offer me BBBJ, and I never asked, but they will kiss me on the mouth. Not that I let them if I catch it coming.
I am not 100% sure this whole, sniff test argument is true. It seems some guys who want a BBBJ interpret the sniff test and subsuquent BBBJ to be a positive thing. But....
The truth is they may just be sniffing YOU, but unless you are in the booth with other guys alot them I guess you only know that for some reason girls sniff you before sucking! And this applies to all the guys on here who have posted about a sniff test, not just Sperto.
Also, it depends on how hard you are. Girls who give me BBBJ sometimes, on other occasions when I am 100% hard, they will put the condom on, suck fast, and lay down for sex because they want sex, not to give me a BJ. One said sorry recently after she realized what she had done. She was not really thinking about my smell, she was just trying to get my D!
I have a blonde in Copa who regularly asks me to take pictures of her giving me BBBJ and other stuff. But on a couple of occasions she too has quickly tried to get down to sex.
Remember to the casa girls the BJ is a means to an end.
There are many reasons why a girl might NOT give you a BBBJ.
Oftentimes, girls will not give gringos a BBBJ because many gringos do not accept them from them. One girl slowly kissed my pecker, then looked up at me. I gave her the condom and she put it on. I interpreted her behavior to be caution as to whether the gringo would allow her to suck it without a condom, not a sniff test to see if I was dirty!
And not all guys should desire a BBBJ.
I got a BBBJ in BA85 recently and just got over a burning sensation on my penis and pink eye (I must have rubbed my eyes). So be glad when they put the condom on.
Personally, I believe we men try to interpret women's actions from our own perspective too often.
I do it too. But for the last couple of years I have stopped listening to other men because I noticed we were often misleading each other, unintentionally of course.
Women have there own reasons for doing certain things.
Another example of this phenomenon is a guy who said a girl on Floor 2 of BA85 told him that she stayed on that "ghetto" floor because she could make money quicker because guys do not want to stay there long.
Actaually, I have observed this girl and know she is quite self conscious about her body. I am sure now that she feels physically inferior to the big booty girls in the casa. She is rail thin but has a cute face. I have seen her reaction on the times she has to go to another floor to change over money. She looks downright ashamed of her body.
Again, men will mislead other men. And women will tell you things that are not 100% true.
TJ
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[quote=koolkid]went looking for uruguiana 210 today at around mid-day as reported by
christopherd
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php? p=976432&highlight=uruguiana#post976432[/url]
i couldn't seem to find it, i went to the mcdonalds on the corner and even crossed over to the other side but no luck.
it was so busy in centro i decided to head to ba85 at around 12. 15 there were around 5 girls on each floor and every floor was open. nothing really special, so picked a mulata from floor 2. the cabins were very basic and quite clean, as i expected them to be dirty and smelly as previously reported.
the man behind the counter wasn't the freindliest of people and snatched my
money.
one question, is bbbj standard at this place, because she started off, and then i realised, that this aint no terma and asked her to put the condom on.
not a bad little session, it is what it is, and cost 20 reals. my feet were killing so stopped for a chop and went looking for 502 but this was still shut.
going to print spertos map and take it with me next time so i don't do so much walking around.
also try and take some kind of cleaning wipe with you, got these from thailand. all they hand you is a couple of sheets of tissue, so these come in handy![/quote]yeah, i always take wet ones with me to centro.
the guy on floor two can be an asshole. he is ok with me when i first arrive in town but i always manage to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] him off. he always seems to forget to give me my change for a beer. yeah right.
you should do a duplo with some girls. he will just stare at you when you come out of the back. envy, is his sin!
oh yeah, the girl behind the counter with him wants to bang me, so that adds to his increasing dislike of me.
actually, i posted a warning about floor 2 recently but deleted it:
bascially, i do not believe gringos should visit floor 2 anymore. i am getting some bad vibes there. that is the only floor in which they watch the clock. i always feel i am in one of those tijuana quickie joints. the black/mulata who works the counter cuts guys' time short on purpose. i being a gringo only makes it worse.
it is not worth it. floor 3 and 4 are better. the blonde who works the desk on floor 3 used to work on floor 2 (i used to knock that out on saturdays!), and she is cool. no problems there.
recommendations for ba 85:
floor 1-carol (black/mulata. often wears a black hat). she gives bbbj and good doggy. very good attitude. at times, she ignores me, which is strange, but i think she has a little jealous streak about me messing with other girls.
bruhna-short blonde, with a little bit of a pot belly. i think she attends some sort of school. kind of cute. looks like that blonde from american beauty. she is kinky. one time she wanted to play out a little [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] scene with me. another strange one.
sara-tall blonde. prettiest girl on floor one and perhaps ba85. some brazilian guys do not like her. she likes gringos! trust me on this.
floor 2-stay away. renata, the skinny girl at the door can be ok at times, but it is not worth the trouble.
floor3- if you are good the blonde that works the desk might let you sniff it! lol!
paola-mulata. nice round butt. not too pretty but not ugly either. she is cool. she has a short friend in there now who will do duplos. do not mention that you read this somewhere because they will know it was me!
carolinia-young and fully firm. pretty little black girl. she is so soft that she will not let you grab her sides hard while in doggie because she bruises easy.
floor 4-sarah. black girl with long hair with reddish streaks. nice round butt. sex is good. she grabs the door and bangs on the wall while you hit it doggie. no faking here.
floor 5-there is an albino working there i want to try for the novelty.
tj
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Looking for the Love of my Life. Please help!
I've known this girl for years and I last saw her in September of 2009 and I was wondering if someone might know where I could find her. Her name is Cindeleny (Cindy) Jaquline ##### and she is originally from Sao Paulo but I've only spent time with her in Copa. She worked in Monte Carlo in 2008 then freelanced after that. She is very skinny for a Brazlian girl. When I was back in Rio this January and didn't see her and really would like to know if anyone has her email or phone number or location.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]
Oftentimes, girls will not give gringos a BBBJ because many gringos do not accept them from them.
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Do you personally know many gringos like this? BBBJ seems pretty fundamental to the GFE sessions that everyone seems to expect in Rio. I know I felt slighted when a girl on Rio Branco insisted on CBJ. I stop in Brasil for relatively uninhibited garotas who act naturally and not covered, mechanical or things like that, so didn't appreciate this. They usually go straight to BBBJ.
I do draw the line though. One of Flavia's garotas offered up bareback anal last year but I used a condom. I felt bad about rejecting such a sincere offer to take a risk like that, especially since she was probably only about 22, seemed healthy, and really GFE in all respects. This was the first time a garota escalated something to a point where I couldn't go. Prior, I thought I was more intense than any GDP, in Brasil or anywhere else. Wrong that time! Then I got to Jakarta last month and found that they go BBFS unless you tell them otherwise..they bring a rubber, but typically throw it on the bedside table and go for BBBJ and BBFS..so then I fully realized my naivety.
Now, on the main theme of your post, garotas are obviously sniffing Sperto's junk to see what GDP he was with with before arriving at their casa. After all, they are safadas and Sperto must do a lot of mongering to maintain that wonderful list. I look forward to my upcoming visit and getting to enjoy more lovely morena safada tails. A sniff, sniff seals the memory of a particular garota, because I did that to Ane at L'uomo and I remember the the DATY now. ;) Crazy drunken garota. She probably crashed and burned by now, não é?
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Bbbj
Hi Putya,
Yes, many gringos want a BBBJ but many do not want one from a Brazilian hooker.
My main point is that guys are talking about BBBJ as if every guy wants one and as if the girls not giving you one is a bad sign.
You are right that many guys want one but that does not mean we should project that desire onto the girls to mean their NOT giving a BBBJ means something is wrong with you.
That was a main point of mine.
I see your point quite well. Gringos go there for the GFE and may feel slighted if she goes to a covered BJ.
But actually, there is another level to this game.
Just like any women, these girls often want to appear "innocent" with certain guys.
For example, one girl who gives me a covered BJ had no problem when the condom broke. She bent right over and expected me to keep going. I pulled out another and put it on, however.
One of my points is that gringos should not take a covered blow job as a negative sign at all. The game is VERY deep and as long as you are paying you are in the game. A hooker can give a BBBJ to a guy she disrespects, while covering up with a guy whom she wants to think she is clean.
All of this reminds me of the pimps I used to see in strip clubs in a major US city. NO girls would approach these guys. To mongers that would be a perceived as a negative. But to a pimp, a guy who is getting paid, rather than paying for sex, that is not a necessarily a negative. When the girls approach him he knows it is for real.
(A side not here: I met a black Braziliam pimp in Meia Pataca and the girls told me that he was about "business". They would not even look at him. Well, I took one girl to my apt. and she banged me for R150 and left after less than 1 hour. She had bad breath and even apologized for stinking so bad. I did her doggie since I had to pay.) So I was the trick. She hung with me, while avoiding the pimp. But whom did she "respect"? I do not know, to be honest.
Same thing with me in the casas. I have not told all here. But when the condom comes off for me, it is for real. We both want it and it is not GFE, but GF and BF!
TJ
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BBBJ or CBJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I am not 100% sure this whole, sniff test argument is true. It seems some guys who want a BBBJ interpret the sniff test and subsuquent BBBJ to be a positive thing.
The truth is they may just be sniffing YOU, but unless you are in the booth with other guys alot them I guess you only know that for some reason girls sniff you before sucking! And this applies to all the guys on here who have posted about a sniff test, not just Sperto.
Oftentimes, girls will not give gringos a BBBJ because many gringos do not accept them from them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]My main point is that guys are talking about BBBJ as if every guy wants one and as if the girls not giving you one is a bad sign.
You are right that many guys want one but that does not mean we should project that desire onto the girls to mean their NOT giving a BBBJ means something is wrong with you.
That was a main point of mine.[/QUOTE]
TJ, calma.
I didn't meant that all guys wants a BBBJ (even though I know of none who would reject it). Neither did I mean that it's something wrong with the guy if the girl doesn't give you one. I just simply answered Koolkids question about BBBJ in BA85.
I didn't want to upset anybody mentioning what I called the sniff test. If you visit a R$ 1/minute place, or VM, CBJ is standard if the guy doesn't ask for a BBBJ. However not all the girls do BBBJ and if they do, not on all clients. There are to many filthy slobs visiting those places. If the girls decides to perform a BBBJ some girls will take a close look at your dick before they start. Some girls might also SNIFF your dick just to confirm that it's smelling like roses.
I prefer to get a BBBJ instead of a CBJ. Not because of the GFE but just because it feels much better (note: I wouldn't accept barebacking a GP even though barebacking feels better).
P.S Regarding the burning sensation you felt after a BBBJ. Maybe the girl had been sucking on a HALS? I know that many GPs sucks on Hals (specially at Flavias massagen). It gives a very pleasant feeling when they perform BBBJ, specially if it's Extra Forte.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]TJ, calma.
I didn't meant that all guys wants a BBBJ (even though I know of none who would reject it). Neither did I mean that it's something wrong with the guy if the girl doesn't give you one. I just simply answered Koolkids question about BBBJ in BA85.[/QUOTE]
I know, I am calm.
TJ
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VIP's Panoramic Views
Everybody knows that the VIP's is the most spectacular of the motels in Rio.
Now you can watch three spectacular panoramic views.
Just click:
[url]http://www.inaball.com/pleinpot/vipsbeds_swf.html[/url]
[url]http://www.inaball.com/pleinpot/vipspool2_swf.html[/url]
[url]http://www.inaball.com/pleinpot/vipshidro2_swf.html[/url]
Not bad, uh? A geladinha, a couple of garotas and a nice sunny day..
waaaaaaaw!!!
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre]Everybody knows that the VIP's is the most spectacular of the motels in Rio.
Now you can watch three spectacular panoramic views.
Just click:
[url]http://www.inaball.com/pleinpot/vipsbeds_swf.html[/url]
[url]http://www.inaball.com/pleinpot/vipspool2_swf.html[/url]
[url]http://www.inaball.com/pleinpot/vipshidro2_swf.html[/url]
Not bad, uh? A geladinha, a couple of garotas and a nice sunny day..
waaaaaaaw!!![/QUOTE]How much does VIP cost?
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[QUOTE=Chief Justice]How much does VIP cost?[/QUOTE]
I don't wanna end sounding like spam, but hey... you can check yourself (their web is in english):
[url]http://www.vipsmotel.com.br/[/url]
VIPS Motel
(Av. Niemeyer, 418, Leblon, Tel: 3322-1662)
there are other fine motels... though VIPS is probably the best... and the most expensive one.
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Same old, same old
I logged in to retrieve an old PM and read the latest postings. Amazing how the same old conversations are still going on from last year. Like a bad novela. And our pal, Jamacianceo is still getting his posts deleted (must be some sort of record) and sharing his unique perspective on how to "handle" women. I would have figured he'd be heading up a charm school by now. There are some intelligent guys here - aren't you bored with this?
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Meds
[QUOTE=Sperto]
P.S Regarding the burning sensation you felt after a BBBJ. Maybe the girl had been sucking on a HALS? I know that many GPs sucks on Hals (specially at Flavias massagen). It gives a very pleasant feeling when they perform BBBJ, specially if it's Extra Forte.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but he got pink eye too. Anybody having these problems can visit the drogaria and pick up some Azitromicinia, 500 mg. Take one per day and it should clear up most things that don't creep. It's a must-have for those who practice DATY or AR w/o dental dam and lab goggles. ;) I once spent two days mongering Sao Paulo with one eye unable to open, due to infection from having been nose-up 69 in GDP bundas. Since then, I get the meds before I need them.
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one good link, one bad
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]PREFACE: DON'T VISIT A CENTRO CASA WITH YOUR FRIENDS. Like the buildings on Rio Branco, for example, or anyplace else with an address containing "Sala". They are not party places and do not like crowds of gringos at the door. They will turn you away. Leave the horny buddies, colleagues, relatives, pets, etc. out of it. Go alone and enjoy.
Just sharing a couple of cartographic treasures that I haven't seen in this thread before.
[url]http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/kmz/rj.kmz[/url]
[url]http://www.isaw-db.com/map_rdj.html[/url]
In the Google Maps directions function, select 'by public transit' and it will tell you how to arrive via onibus or metro. Boa Sorte![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the map links.
The absolutely amazing thing is that there is not one location in Ipanema/Leblon. That can't be an accident. Do the cops do something to keep that area clean?
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Yeah, but he got pink eye too. Anybody having these problems can visit the drogaria and pick up some Azitromicinia, 500 mg. Take one per day and it should clear up most things that don't creep. It's a must-have for those who practice DATY or AR w/o dental dam and lab goggles. ;) I once spent two days mongering Sao Paulo with one eye unable to open, due to infection from having been nose-up 69 in GDP bundas. Since then, I get the meds before I need them.[/QUOTE]
Physicians are dispensing Zithromax in one super dose for a lot of these problems now. If you're being your own doctor, keep a record of what you take and when.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Thanks for the map links.
The absolutely amazing thing is that there is not one location in Ipanema/Leblon. That can't be an accident. Do the cops do something to keep that area clean?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I just checked too and found that one should be careful with these links. ISAW-DB shows one in Leblon and in small text says it's a termas for people batting for the other team.
I see your title. "one good link, one bad" The ISAW-DB server is really slow, if that is what you are talking about. If anyone has problems they should try it at a later time. I just opened it in Chrome and it worked, then tested in in Firefox and it says the server is too busy. BMaps is clearly the most useful, though, especially if used in conjunction with GPguia and searches of reports from the fine upstanding gringo mongers here.
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Saturday centro
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Went looking for Uruguiana 210 today at around mid-day as reported by
Christopherd
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=976432&highlight=Uruguiana#post976432[/url]
I couldn't seem to find it, I went to the Mcdonalds on the corner and even crossed over to the other side but no luck.
It was so busy in centro I decided to head to BA85 at around 12.15 there were around 5 girls on each floor and every floor was open. Nothing really special, so picked a mulata from floor 2. The cabins were very basic and quite clean, as I expected them to be dirty and smelly as previously reported. ...[/QUOTE]
210 was open yesterday. Just cross Pres. Vargas from Urug. station and it is on the right side of the street, first block, with balloons over the door as Christopherd said.
Uru. 22 closed, BA 85 floors 1 and 2 open until 4:00. I agree, they seem to have cleaned up the cabinas in BA 85. Still, it is what it is.
Saturday was a marvelous day for walking around downtown.
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Try looking for her on Orkut.
[QUOTE=Borat411]I've known this girl for years and I last saw her in September of 2009 and I was wondering if someone might know where I could find her. Her name is Cindeleny (Cindy) Jaquline ##### and she is originally from Sao Paulo but I've only spent time with her in Copa. She worked in Monte Carlo in 2008 then freelanced after that. She is very skinny for a Brazlian girl. When I was back in Rio this January and didn't see her and really would like to know if anyone has her email or phone number or location.
Thanks[/QUOTE]She may have an Orkut page where you may find her.
Good luck.
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I made all of this stuff up!
admin. will not delete this post. since christopherd informed me my posts offend and bother so many of you i asked it be deleted and i would return to another forum.
now i am forced to admit this was a fake post. now nobody has to feel bothered by my post since i am so hated on this pristine forum.
it was all a joke!
[quote=tj fannatic]yeah, i always take wet ones with me to centro.
the guy on floor two can be an asshole. he is ok with me when i first arrive in town but i always manage to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] him off. he always seems to forget to give me my change for a beer. yeah right.
you should do a duplo with some girls. he will just stare at you when you come out of the back. envy, is his sin!
oh yeah, the girl behind the counter with him wants to bang me, so that adds to his increasing dislike of me.
actually, i posted a warning about floor 2 recently but deleted it:
bascially, i do not believe gringos should visit floor 2 anymore. i am getting some bad vibes there. that is the only floor in which they watch the clock. i always feel i am in one of those tijuana quickie joints. the black/mulata who works the counter cuts guys' time short on purpose. i being a gringo only makes it worse.
it is not worth it. floor 3 and 4 are better. the blonde who works the desk on floor 3 used to work on floor 2 (i used to knock that out on saturdays!!!!), and she is cool. no problems there.
recommendations for ba 85:
floor 1-carol (black/mulata. often wears a black hat). she gives bbbj and good doggy. very good attitude. at times, she ignores me, which is strange, but i think she has a little jealous streak about me messing with other girls.
bruhna-short blonde, with a little bit of a pot belly. i think she attends some sort of school. kind of cute. looks like that blonde from american beauty. she is kinky. one time she wanted to play out a little [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] scene with me. another strange one.
sara-tall blonde. prettiest girl on floor one and perhaps ba85. some brazilian guys do not like her. she likes gringos! trust me on this.
floor 2-stay away. renata, the skinny girl at the door can be ok at times, but it is not worth the trouble.
floor3- if you are good the blonde that works the desk might let you sniff it! lol!
paola-mulata. nice round butt. not too pretty but not ugly either. she is cool. she has a short friend in there now who will do duplos. do not mention that you read this somewhere because they will know it was me!
carolinia-young and fully firm. pretty little black girl. she is so soft that she will not let you grab her sides hard while in doggie because she bruises easy.
floor 4-sarah. black girl with long hair with reddish streaks. nice round butt. sex is good. she grabs the door and bangs on the wall while you hit it doggie. no faking here.
floor 5-there is an albino working there i want to try for the novelty.
tj[/quote]
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Demise of Vila Mimosa
I didn't make this up. It's in today's ODia. Vila Mimosa is destined for a makeover if plans by the Agência Nacional de Transportes Terrestres for a new platform for the Rio-São Paulo bullet train are approved. The railroad would flush out residents and 150 merchants of the streets Sotero dos Reis, Ceará, Hilário Ribeiro e Lopes de Souza. That's the entire Vila Mimosa triangle, biker bar and all. There are designs and architectural plans for a new Cidade das Meninas in place of VM. With expropriation expected in the next six months, VM's days are numbered.
[url]http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2010/5/vila_mimosa_no_caminho_do_trem_81476.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]
[url]http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2010/5/vila_mimosa_no_caminho_do_trem_81476.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Great post.
So bye-bye Mimosa. I hope the new project sees the light of day. Hopefully the community power of VM may help to look after these people (for them and for those of us that like to visit them) and see VM continued properly in a way that Help was maybe never going to be. "The design of the new Vila Mimosa is divided into two complexes with five modules, a total of 1,825 square meters. There are spaces for theatre, fashion shows, rooms for vocational courses, day care for 50 children, parking for 70 cars, health clinic and offices." Sounds pretty optimistic. Have you noticed if any other papers are picking it up?
(My interest and question is quite genuine. Any info appreciated.)
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]Great post.
So bye-bye Mimosa. I hope the new project sees the light of day... Have you noticed if any other papers are picking it up?
(My interest and question is quite genuine. Any info appreciated.)[/QUOTE]
It hasn't been mentioned in other jornais yet. The design of one train station and a shopping area isn't exactly news of national interest in spite of the impact on Rio de Janeiro's sex trade.
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Echos from the past?
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Great post.
So bye-bye Mimosa. I hope the new project sees the light of day. Hopefully the community power of VM may help to look after these people (for them and for those of us that like to visit them) and see VM continued properly in a way that Help was maybe never going to be.
(My interest and question is quite genuine. Any info appreciated.)[/QUOTE]
Here is something that I found at the link below. I don't know what they mean by 'closed down in the 90's.'
In any case, I'll be down there next month to give it last rites regardless of whether it's really closing. Anointing the GDP's and so forth. ;)
[i]Some of the cross streets of Mangue, at the edge of the downtown of Rio, had been designated since the end of the nineteenth century for the confinement of the prostitutes of the lowest classes. The control and regulation of prostitution by the state was beginning then with the purpose of restricting it to areas intended for legal prostitution. In 1920, the police "cleaned up" the city for the visit of the King and Queen of Belgium: the prostitutes were put in jail for vagrancy and later placed in brothels in nine cross streets in Mangue. At that time an unofficial system was created by which the police registered prostitutes and intervened in the administration of the brothels. Thus this area of lower-class prostitution was established, in contrast with the luxury prostitution located in the Lapa section which, with its night clubs, cabarets and cafés, turned into the "tropical Montmartre," a place for the city's bohemian intellectuals, reaching its peak in the 30s. Mangue continued to be the most popular and poor red-light district, whose decadence, together with Lapa's, accelerates with the repressive and moralizing policies of Getúlio Vargas' Estado Novo (the Lapa brothels were closed down in 1943) and the relocation of night life to Copacabana after WW2. Mangue held on, still poor and decadent, until 1979, when it was demolished to build the subway and only the so-called Villa Mimosa, which finally closed down in the 90s, was left. After the demolition of Mangue the Administrative Center of the City of Rio de Janeiro was built in the "Cidade Nova," the New City. [/i]
Got this at:
[url]http://lanic.utexas.edu/project/etext/llilas/vrp/jschwartz.htm[/url]
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Yeah, but he got pink eye too. Anybody having these problems can visit the drogaria and pick up some Azitromicinia, 500 mg. Take one per day and it should clear up most things that don't creep. It's a must-have for those who practice DATY or AR w/o dental dam and lab goggles. ;) I once spent two days mongering Sao Paulo with one eye unable to open, due to infection from having been nose-up 69 in GDP bundas. Since then, I get the meds before I need them.[/QUOTE]Be careful with the BBBJ and DATY now days, as STD's are becoming more resistant to antibiotics. Gonorrhea is becoming much more of a problem due to oral transfer. The prostitutes can carry Gonorrhea in the throat for weeks with little to no symptoms and it will usually clear up on it's own over time. However I am sure most are aware that even at the high end termas, most of the girls will have given unprotected oral sex to (at the very least) 50 men that month. I have on a few occasions in Loumo and Monte Carlo caught the smell of sex from previous clients on a girls breath.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Sayuri is sexual beast in the bedroom!! I have fucked her a number of times at 4x4. I am not trying to talk shit about her at all because I think she is really nice person. We couldnt come to an agreement over the price, but I dont hold it against her at all, if she isnt willing to take my 200R, there are hundreds who will. We are still cool with each other and she gives me hugs and kisses when I see her.[/QUOTE]I have chatted with Sayuri on a few occasions. She has a very pleasant demeanor. I have always been put off her as I know a few guys that have had the pleasure. A couple have said she occasionally just jumps strait on without the condom. It's not just the fear of HIV, with the antibiotic resistant strains of STD's on the increase. For me she is just too high mileage. With the increasing health risks in mongering, it's becoming difficult to time my mongering trips. I always wait three months and have a full sexual health check before having sex with real women again. Believe me that is a very long three months. I just don't feel it's fair to expose friends to that risk. With most of these prostitutes you are at the very very least number 50 line that month.
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]I didn't make this up. It's in today's ODia. Vila Mimosa is destined for a makeover if plans by the Agência Nacional de Transportes Terrestres for a new platform for the Rio-São Paulo bullet train are approved. The railroad would flush out residents and 150 merchants of the streets Sotero dos Reis, Ceará, Hilário Ribeiro e Lopes de Souza. That's the entire Vila Mimosa triangle, biker bar and all. There are designs and architectural plans for a new Cidade das Meninas in place of VM. With expropriation expected in the next six months, VM's days are numbered.
[url]http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2010/5/vila_mimosa_no_caminho_do_trem_81476.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Did you check out the caption on the picture? "Moradores, comerciantes e profissionais do sexo se preocupam. A garota de programa Y. fatura R$ 3 mil por mês para sustentar quatro filhos"
If she makes 3000 reais/month @ 26 reais per dick, that is 115 dicks per month or almost 4 dicks per day. And there are 3500 girls in VM? Granted all of them do not work everyday. Then the article goes on to say that 4,000 people go to VM for fun each day. Damn that place is hopping!
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Did you check out the caption on the picture? "Moradores, comerciantes e profissionais do sexo se preocupam. A garota de programa Y. fatura R$ 3 mil por mês para sustentar quatro filhos"
If she makes 3000 reais/month @ 26 reais per dick, that is 115 dicks per month or almost 4 dicks per day...[/QUOTE]
To put it another way, she works 50 hours a month. Hell, that's just a part-time job. kkkkkkk :)
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Vila Mimosa
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
If she makes 3000 reais/month @ 26 reais per dick, that is 115 dicks per month or almost 4 dicks per day. And there are 3500 girls in VM? Granted all of them do not work everyday. Then the article goes on to say that 4,000 people go to VM for fun each day. Damn that place is hopping![/QUOTE]
3500 girls in VM? having just returned from Brazil, on my half dozen or so visits to VM, it appeared to me to be operating at less then half capacity. Most of the Casas were either closed or vacant. Perhaps several hundred working girls, not thousands as is claimed.
I would think the more productive girls would certainly make more than R$3000 a month. Whilst having a few beers in casa 14, a Monday night, in just the space of 2 or so hours, the 2 girls worked more than 5 dicks apiece. I could actually count the number of times they had serviced clients by looking at the register as they signed prior to the deed.
Really sad the demise, cannot see there being a replacement. Don`t know what you hound dogs think?
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[QUOTE=Noddy]3500 girls in VM? having just returned from Brazil, on my half dozen or so visits to VM, it appeared to me to be operating at less then half capacity. Most of the Casas were either closed or vacant. Perhaps several hundred working girls, not thousands as is claimed.
I would think the more productive girls would certainly make more than R$3000 a month. Whilst having a few beers in casa 14, a Monday night, in just the space of 2 or so hours, the 2 girls worked more than 5 dicks apiece. I could actually count the number of times they had serviced clients by looking at the register as they signed prior to the deed.
Really sad the demise, cannot see there being a replacement. Don`t know what you hound dogs think?[/QUOTE]
Isn't that general though? Monday is frequently a quiet night. The figures for the number of girls working there usually indicate a total rather than at any one time. Weekends when it's hooching I think it's probably into four figures. But there's queues at some casas for cabins while the ones at the very end of the middle alley (between the U-bend and the show-bar strip) are often empty cos no-one walks up to the end. Same with the very top floor that overlooks the street from opposite the U-bend - who can be bothered climbing all the stairs? Good on you checking the register though - I like to do that too. ;)
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Here is something that I found at the link below. I don't know what they mean by 'closed down in the 90's.'
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If I'm reading the Portuguese Wikipedia article correctly, VM was closed down and moved to its present location c. 1994-95. (IIRC, it was closer to downtown at one time before being moved.)
BTW, the [i]O Dia[/i] article quotes a woman complaining of the degraded streets and open sewers in the area. This actually explains a lot of what I saw and smelled on my last visit.
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VM Wikipedia translation
[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]If I'm reading the Portuguese Wikipedia article correctly, VM was closed down and moved to its present location c. 1994-95. (IIRC, it was closer to downtown at one time before being moved.)
BTW, the [i]O Dia[/i] article quotes a woman complaining of the degraded streets and open sewers in the area. This actually explains a lot of what I saw and smelled on my last visit.[/QUOTE]
Here is the Wikipedia translation.
Vila Mimosa is one of the most famous areas of prostitution in the city of Rio de Janeiro. Vila Mimosa is almost centennial. Born with the arrival of women from Eastern Europe fleeing the First World War, poor and without their husbands.
The first place was the Mangrove Zone, near the current President Vargas Avenue, in downtown Rio
The Polish, as they were known to the native mingled over the years, until it disappears. Were persecuted and moved nearly a dozen times in street, as the city was modernizing.
The city of Rio needed a facility, and ended up removing all street prostitutes for Sotero dos Reis in the Flag Square.
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* 1 History
* 2 Today
* 3 Trivia
* 4 References
* 5 See also
* 6 External links
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Vila Mimoza (originally written with 'z' due to the Portuguese at the time) was to first address the street Pinto de Azevedo, located in Mangrove neighborhood of Statius in Rio de Janeiro. But it was demolished because the city thought the building of the administrative center (where you work now the mayor). The transfer was for street Miguel de Frias, near the old place, also in the mangroves.
The drive was very large, especially in the '20s because there were many soldiers fighting riots and rebellions throughout Brazil, which had as its President Arthur Bernardes. The Rio de Janeiro was going through difficult times, the military did not want the office of the President, made in Rio de Janeiro on Copacabana Fort revolt. Even though rigid military discipline, was a necessity to have moments of fun and that they could at Vila Mimoza.
One of the most assiduous attenders was the poet Manuel Bandeira. The location of the area lasted until about 94/95, when the state decided that the building was listed by TV Rio heritage.
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Vila Mimosa is constituted from a social and commercial construction, where there is a configuration of the business premises of a variety that goes beyond the sale of sex. This is a group of establishments located in the same space (streets) and connected by the activity of prostitution.
Despite the name of the village, its beginning was in a large shed with about 2500 square meters, a building built in the shape of a square, where the front is open and facing the main street (Sotero dos Reis ). In the other three lines of the square and its central part there are establishments of prostitution. The transition between the two sides of this square is cobbled, narrow and covered. The two entries of the shed are identified by yellow and blue awnings placed on the balconies of establishments along the main street. The bars are located at the bottom and the rooms for the realization of programs on the second floor. Looks like a commercial gallery, where a store would be next to each other, however, it is bars. In this kind of corridor, trade is intense. There are informal vendors who expose their goods on the floor, the window of an establishment, others roamed the streets. The informal vendors sell different products: juices, pastries, snacks (drumsticks, esfihas, sandwiches), clothing (lingerie, bikinis, tops), cosmetics (lipstick, eyeshadow, deodorant, perfume, creams), incense, jewelry, among others. [1]
Vila Mimosa was the breadbasket of several adult film actresses Rio. Most famously, Natasha Lee, who came to participate in an episode of the series Mike in Brazil.
Are exactly 70 houses in the village, in every one are at least 10 quarters. In Vila almost all establishments are open 24 hours (only tents, tents and trailers that sell meals and drinks run from 15/16 hours).
According to the Association of Condominium Residents and Friends of the Villa Mimosa (AMOCAVIM), on the nights of Friday and Saturday about 4,500 people (around 3,000 men and 1,500 women) traveling in the complex of Vila Mimosa.
For the safety of street Sotero dos Reis and internal security staff (undercover) is paid by the owners. Not allowed to transvestites or male prostitutes working at home, having to preserve the tradition, only women are accepted.
For the Brazilian legislation, maintaining an establishment for prostitution is a crime, so the Vila Mimosa is an illicit business. In the legal agreement of the Village is specified that the shed is a commercial venture without explaining its use. The brothels are located in front of the shed are old houses that were turned into commercial ventures. Each of these bars work with its legal registration of trade.
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* Among the VIPs passing through there are the artist Di Cavalcanti and musicians Dicró, Mr. Catra and Cartola.
* In 2003, the duo MC Serginho centipede and did a song in tribute to the Village.
* Vila Mimosa is the largest area of heterosexual prostitution mundo.carece sources
* Institutions FAETEC important as OAB and are partners of Vila Mimosa. [2] [3]
* The town began to decline when Mayor Pereira Passos began his project of modernizing the city at the beginning of the twentieth century. Thereafter, a number of other events have been collaborating for the Village definitely changed places: the changing health promoted by Oswaldo Cruz and the construction of the Metro, the teleport and the seat of municipal government. Two buildings constructed City Hall there were dubbed affectionately "Piranhão" and "pimp." [4]
* The transfer of the Village was obtained by an indemnity given by the Municipality amounting to approximately 300 thousand. However, some say that the money was stolen by the former president of the neighborhood association. Despite the detour, pimps and prostitutes, has raised 100 thousand reais and bought the barn in the Flag Square, where they remain today.
* The program Panic TV has twice been filming in Vila Mimosa in 2008. Other programs that visited the place were Good Night, Brazil, Night Beyond, Special Document and Fantastic. A village also served as a location for scenes in support of novelas da Rede Globo.
* Every year there is a beauty contest to choose a Miss among prostitutes working in Vila Mimosa. The name of this competition is "Crawling Mimosa." [5]
* The cult and commercial success of the VM (like Vila Mimosa is called by its regulars) brought the international network of McDonald's want to open a branch there. The project was delayed but is still in the plans of the company. [June]
* Despite the place being known as the red light district of Red Light District, ie, prostitutes and poor clients, Vila Mimosa moves per month £ 1 million [7].
* There are not 13 years recorded cases of AIDS in Vila Mimosa. [8]
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Vm
I'm not worried about VM. A place like VM doesn't disappear, it just move to another location.
I wouldn't rely on the number of 3500 GPs working in VM. I've heard the number 1500 VM-GPs, which sound more realistic.
There are 72 casas. The GPs are working in two shifts. The average VM GP works half the week. Normally you see an average of 5 girls/casa. Meaning 1440 GPs. 1500 GPs seems to be a more correct number than 3500.
Regarding Mrs Y who earns R$ 3000/month. If she's working 5 days/week, it would mean R$ 150/day, that is 7,5 clients/day (after the casa commision). It sounds trustworthy.
There are customers to all of the girls. Even the fat old women. The young new beautiful talents will have queues. I remember a very beautiful VM girl I was meeting for freebies a couple of years ago. I came by her casa one evening and checked the casa-book. She had 23 customers that day.
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Festa
So i got the fetsa going today, Gonna write all this while its fresh in
my head. Darelne arranged for her and her friend Brenda to come to my
apartment. They were a little bit late and when they arrived I was abit shocked at the size difference, but not complaining.
Darlene is around 5f 2" and brenda is going on 6f, and wide man, That ass was big and wide!! After all the introductions, I offered drinks, and Brenda spoke some english and replied with beer and then shower! She seemed quite assertive, with no make up and looked tired.
Darelne and I got aquainted again, and Brenda showered. Darlene went and showered and in came Brenda. We got it on and I noticed she wasn't the most beautiful smelling down there, which kinda put me off from the getgo. Her head game was good and then in came Darlene.
Brenda was a good fuck, pussy and ass, I was expecting some lesbian action, but Brenda was a NO straight away. I thought I might try and and get some pictures, but Brenda was a No. Darlene could tell I thought Brenda was abit hard faced and tried to make every situation better. Basically Brenda very mechanical, against Darlene just loving to party.
1 good hour of fucking, and Brenda goes to shower, I asked Darlene for some snaps and and she said sure and put her finger against her mouth and shusss'd and pointed at the bathroom. Only managed to get two pics before Brenda came back out. I felt Brenda was kinda running the situation.
I wanted 2 pops but Brenda was obviously an 'in and out kinda girl' and was having none of it. The session with Darlene last time was slow and relaxed, and lated 3+ hours with her not really wanting to leave.
Anyway another good session with Darlene while Brenda groped us both. To finish, me on my back with both of them on all fours while they are blowing me. While i grabbing their asses.
Darlene is so petite up to this giant, that all I can think!
I told Darlene I was gonna come but she went faster and faster and was suprised when she got a mouthall. Lost in translation I suppose! She laughed it off and made good, of a good sitiation (for me).
To Conclude:
Pornstars, Ok, alot of peoples fantasies, but if you look around you can get the same fullfillment at alot less price and there are thousands of girls out there with the same booties and bodies as these women. They look alot better in the films, and all that!
I've had amazing duplas at Eden, Bangkok, for a fraction of the price, so this was not that speical. but you don't get that booty over their I suppose!!
Tried some covert snaps with my phone and will post them at a later date.
Brenda works from an apartment and quoted me 200 reals for a session!! Bless her.
Quote:: is next off the Rio, at Rua Senador Dantas, 117 Phone No.76******
My third week will be trying out the online escorts.
Rio is expensive with the exchange rate, so hunt and seek, and yee shall find!!
Learn Porto!!
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This is Interesting
Termas L'uomo is now on twitter:
[url]http://twitter.com/luomoclub[/url]
Now if only Quatro por Quatro would do the same (and put their website back up)!
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North Centro -- A little planning
I'll be hitting Rio before long and starting off my stay with a full Saturday day and night at Windsor Guanabara, the intersection of Pres. Vargas and Rio Branco. Hope it's girl friendly.
Any ideas for an entertaining Saturday afternoon, focused around sex in North Centro? I'll be calling Starcris or Karlas immediately after arriving in the morning, and hitting VM at night, but would like some suggestions for some streets in North Centro to prowl for action in between. BA85 would be a last resort cause I already know that area and want something new.
Also, what are some nice places to eat in Centro? In the past, I just eat streetvendor pasteis and junk like that, with binges at Porcao in between. Now my Porto is better, so I'd like to spread my wings a little with regard to dining somewhere other than just streetsides, churrascaria and at the Y.
This arrival stay will be followed a week of work, then a week of serious mongering based out of Ibis Centro unless I can find something comparably priced in Copa..$R150.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]
Brenda was a good fuck, pussy and ass, I was expecting some lesbian action, but Brenda was a NO straight away. I thought I might try and and get some pictures, but Brenda was a No. Darlene could tell I thought Brenda was abit hard faced and tried to make every situation better. Basically Brenda very mechanical, against Darlene just loving to party.
!![/QUOTE]
KK, is this the Brenda that came over with darlene?
[url]http://www.xvideos.com/video207250/brenda_werner_anal[/url]
If so, I know exactly what you went thru. I got together with her at 4x4 and she was one of the top 2 worst fucks I ever had in rio! Lazy and mechanical!! I got with her because she is a tall blond with a huge ass, but she was just fucking terrible!! I think she was let go from 4x4 because of too many guys complaining about her performance.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I'll be hitting Rio before long and starting off my stay with a full Saturday day and night at Windsor Guanabara, the intersection of Pres. Vargas and Rio Branco. Hope it's girl friendly. ... [/QUOTE]
I wouldn't count on it. I never stayed in a Windsor that is GF. Centro pretty much closes down on Sat. Some casas are open until 2. See my last post.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]So i got the fetsa going today, Gonna write all this while its fresh in
my head. Darelne arranged for her and her friend Brenda to come to my
apartment. They were a little bit late and when they arrived I was abit shocked at the size difference, but not complaining.
Darlene is around 5f 2" and brenda is going on 6f, and wide man, That ass was big and wide!! After all the introductions, I offered drinks, and Brenda spoke some english and replied with beer and then shower! She seemed quite assertive, with no make up and looked tired.
Darelne and I got aquainted again, and Brenda showered. Darlene went and showered and in came Brenda. We got it on and I noticed she wasn't the most beautiful smelling down there, which kinda put me off from the getgo. Her head game was good and then in came Darlene.
Brenda was a good fuck, pussy and ass, I was expecting some lesbian action, but Brenda was a NO straight away. I thought I might try and and get some pictures, but Brenda was a No. Darlene could tell I thought Brenda was abit hard faced and tried to make every situation better. Basically Brenda very mechanical, against Darlene just loving to party.
1 good hour of fucking, and Brenda goes to shower, I asked Darlene for some snaps and and she said sure and put her finger against her mouth and shusss'd and pointed at the bathroom. Only managed to get two pics before Brenda came back out. I felt Brenda was kinda running the situation.
I wanted 2 pops but Brenda was obviously an 'in and out kinda girl' and was having none of it. The session with Darlene last time was slow and relaxed, and lated 3+ hours with her not really wanting to leave.
Anyway another good session with Darlene while Brenda groped us both. To finish, me on my back with both of them on all fours while they are blowing me. While i grabbing their asses.
Darlene is so petite up to this giant, that all I can think!
I told Darlene I was gonna come but she went faster and faster and was suprised when she got a mouthall. Lost in translation I suppose! She laughed it off and made good, of a good sitiation (for me).
To Conclude:
Pornstars, Ok, alot of peoples fantasies, but if you look around you can get the same fullfillment at alot less price and there are thousands of girls out there with the same booties and bodies as these women. They look alot better in the films, and all that!
I've had amazing duplas at Eden, Bangkok, for a fraction of the price, so this was not that speical. but you don't get that booty over their I suppose!!
Tried some covert snaps with my phone and will post them at a later date.
Brenda works from an apartment and quoted me 200 reals for a session!! Bless her.
Quote:: is next off the Rio, at Rua Senador Dantas, 117 Phone No.76******
My third week will be trying out the online escorts.
Rio is expensive with the exchange rate, so hunt and seek, and yee shall find!!
Learn Porto!![/QUOTE]
KK,
Great report, too bad Brenda did not have a good performance.
Darlene is kind of a sure thing, please remember to post pics.
Regards
Brugal
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]I wouldn't count on it. I never stayed in a Windsor that is GF. Centro pretty much closes down on Sat. Some casas are open until 2. See my last post.[/QUOTE]
Maybe R$20 to the desk clerk will get me a jetinho? I need to stay there for biz reasons, else I'd go to Ibis straightaway. Looks like Hotel Florida would be no different since it's also a Windsor property.
Yeah, I understand generally the Saturday situation but was hoping that the North would be open in the afternoon, as I gather that Bar Florida, Aquarios and the ilk might do a healthy Saturday night business. If my clerk bribe won't work maybe I'll just take the Karla's girl from the lobby and taxi her to a love motel, Lips or something, then hit VM early. VM is my fallback strategy.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Maybe R$20 to the desk clerk will get me a jetinho? I need to stay there for biz reasons, else I'd go to Ibis straightaway. Looks like Hotel Florida would be no different since it's also a Windsor property.
Yeah, I understand generally the Saturday situation but was hoping that the North would be open in the afternoon, as I gather that Bar Florida, Aquarios and the ilk might do a healthy Saturday night business. If my clerk bribe won't work maybe I'll just take the Karla's girl from the lobby and taxi her to a love motel, Lips or something, then hit VM early. VM is my fallback strategy.[/QUOTE]Across the street from the Catete Palace, around the corner from the Florida is the Imperial Hotel. Can bring girls there. Book a double upstairs in the old wing. There's a small casa near there in Lago Machado open all day Saturday and evening, just off the square, to the right of the Church. And, there's the Love Time motel in the same neighborhood.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]KK, is this the Brenda that came over with darlene?
[url]http://www.xvideos.com/video207250/brenda_werner_anal[/url]
If so, I know exactly what you went thru. I got together with her at 4x4 and she was one of the top 2 worst fucks I ever had in rio! Lazy and mechanical!! I got with her because she is a tall blond with a huge ass, but she was just fucking terrible!! I think she was let go from 4x4 because of too many guys complaining about her performance.[/QUOTE]
Yes thats her. She had a really nice tan with great tan-lines which emphasized that huge azz. One thing I remeber now is that she had hairy legs which were bleached blond! Not my thing but I here some brazilians like it!
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Yes thats her. She had a really nice tan with great tan-lines which emphasized that huge azz. One thing I remeber now is that she had hairy legs which were bleached blond! Not my thing but I here some brazilians like it![/QUOTE]
She did the same thing to me in 4x4, she wouldnt allow any pictures of her face, I was really pissed because she told me in the boite that she had no problems with fotos. The fucked up part is that she has done like 5 pornos, so I dont understand all the modesty.
The fact that Darlene did want Brenda to see you taking pictures of her is really odd too. I wonder why she would care considering Darlene has done about 12 pornos herself. I swear,I can never figure these females out.
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VM pictorial
For those who might like a visual memory of the mucky alleyways:
Vila Mimosa (Paperback)
by Hanspeter Schneider (Photographer)
is available very cheaply from the [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vila-Mimosa-Hanspeter-Schneider/dp/1904688047/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274207331&sr=1-1"]Amazon UK[/url] website (currently unavailable when I last checked the U.S. based one).
I picked up a copy second-hand. It's a large format book, a collection of first-rate colour photography with occasional quotes added. But there's something about it that will - at first - maybe scream to some readers, 'That's not the Mimosa I know.'
It's more like the Mimosa of someone who walks through once and sees the average cross-section. The photographer delights in the overweight, gross, unvarnished 'truth' as much as the occasional sexy looking girl. I didn't like the book when I first opened it. Now I do. It brings back memories of girls I have got to know in the sense of knowing their private expressions as well as the ones reserved for punters. Of women whose extended family I may have met. The poses are not so much, 'Come here, sexy' but, 'This is how I look when I'm doing a "Come here, sexy."'
When I've photographed women at VM it has almost always with the intention of making them look their best (for their sake and mine). Schneider more wants to hit you between the eyes.
Shit-street level and very real. Just don't expect a collection of nice ISG pics of the loveliest lookers in alluring poses.
[color=grey]
[i]"His pictures, taken in a fragment of a second, are frozen stories. They start before the push of the button and go on in the fantasy of the viewer after the shutter is closed"
"His images provoke humour and offer a taste of a darker world in a more colourful way."[/i][/color]
Ho hum . . .
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Yes thats her. She had a really nice tan with great tan-lines which emphasized that huge azz. One thing I remeber now is that she had hairy legs which were bleached blond! Not my thing but I here some brazilians like it![/QUOTE]How can we contact Darlene and Brenda?
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[QUOTE=Chief Justice]How can we contact Darlene and Brenda?[/QUOTE]
Yes KK,
How can we contact them and can you please post the pics!!!!!!!
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[QUOTE=Chief Justice]How can we contact Darlene and Brenda?[/QUOTE]
I would imagine he would need to ask Darlene and Brenda if it was ok to give out their telephone number or email. I know they are GDPs, but just posting their contact info on the board without their permission, isnt a good move.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]I would imagine he would need to ask Darlene and Brenda if it was ok to give out their telephone number or email. I know they are GDPs, but just posting their contact info on the board without their permission, isnt a good move.[/QUOTE]
Correct Bravo, I will ask them both if I can give out their email addresses, once I have left Brazil. It's not fair for me to give out their mobile numbers I don't think.
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Copa Quiet?
This is how many people were in front of Othon yesterday afternoon at around 3.30pm. I walked passed afew times and saw no GDP's. Last year
I hung out here, as it was a good place to people watch, and maybe pick
up somthing cheap for some afternoon delight. There was always somthing There
I've been here 2 weeks and seen no real beach action in front of Othon or in front of Balcony for that matter. Meia was always busy with different GDP's every afternoon, but this year everything is quiet.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]This is how many people were in front of Othon yesterday afternoon at around 3.30pm. I walked passed afew times and saw no GDP's. Last year
I hung out here, as it was a good place to people watch, and maybe pick
up somthing cheap for some afternoon delight. There was always somthing There
I've been here 2 weeks and seen no real beach action in front of Othon or in front of Balcony for that matter. Meia was always busy with different GDP's every afternoon, but this year everything is quiet.[/QUOTE]
I was in Meia last month and you are right no GDP's on afternoon but at about 8 pm I have found every night about 8 or 10 girls no latino bomba but just average level about 150 real/hour make your choice....
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[QUOTE=Chief Justice]How can we contact Darlene and Brenda?[/QUOTE]Don't hold your breath. It's rare that info like that gets shared even if the girl gave the ok.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Correct Bravo, I will ask them both if I can give out their email addresses, once I have left Brazil. It's not fair for me to give out their mobile numbers I don't think.[/QUOTE]
Agree with Bravo and KK,
Ask for their permission and that way they will see that you have no bad intentions what so ever.
KK what about the pics, do you think that will be possible?
Brugal
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[QUOTE=Brugal8]Yes KK,
How can we contact them and can you please post the pics!!!!!!![/QUOTE]Kk writes that they gave a mediocre performance for too much $, and that he could better elsewhere, and you guys are tripping over yourselves looking for their contact info. Do you realize how many great experiences there are out there? I must be missing something.
I am loving living in Brazil. Learn the language, find an open minded lady to share adventures with and set out. Then you will learn what the ladies here truly think. But you will not like what you hear. Of course, many of you are married so this is not an option for you.
The US and Europe will be in the dumper for a long time. I wrote about this last year. All the economy turnaround talk is hype and you wait to see what happens the rest of this year.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]This is how many people were in front of Othon yesterday afternoon at around 3.30pm. I walked passed afew times and saw no GDP's. Last year
I hung out here, as it was a good place to people watch, and maybe pick
up somthing cheap for some afternoon delight. There was always somthing There
I've been here 2 weeks and seen no real beach action in front of Othon or in front of Balcony for that matter. Meia was always busy with different GDP's every afternoon, but this year everything is quiet.[/QUOTE]
Wow. That looks pretty bad. Did you get a chance to visit Caesar Park? If so, what was the action like?
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[QUOTE=Amerioca]Wow. That looks pretty bad. Did you get a chance to visit Caesar Park? If so, what was the action like?[/QUOTE]
No I'm going to try that saturday, weather permiting, and then on the night time, MudBug, and then hopefully on to that club next to Dolce Vita. Last week that place was queuing down the street, but it's a totally brazilian crowd, so I might bottle it.
If you want to spend 20-30 mins watching the world go by, try Kice-Sucos on the corner of Miguel Lemos and NS de Copacabana. Try the pasta de frango and peach shake, and then the expresso. Sorts the hangover out, with good people watching.
Went to 4x4 today, and this place is never a disapointment. Tons of girls and a great atmosphere. Got there early and wanted to session before 5pm. Saw afew from last year. I could not decide on what I wanted, and left it till 4.45pm and the boite was getting empty. The ones I had my eye on were snapped up, so I grabbed a blonde that i saw from last year. She spoke ok english and was completa. Great perfomace in the room and was up for everything, we went well well after the phone rang. 40 mins in the cabin (Which was huge compared to the others I've been in) plus 4 skol and 3 caiprahina = 280 odd reals = BARGAIN
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]This is how many people were in front of Othon yesterday afternoon at around 3. 30pm. I walked passed afew times and saw no GDP's. Last year I hung out here, as it was a good place to people watch, and maybe pick up somthing cheap for some afternoon delight. There was always somthing there.
I've been here 2 weeks and seen no real beach action in front of Othon or in front of Balcony for that matter. Meia was always busy with different GDP's every afternoon, but this year everything is quiet.[/QUOTE]Cariocas don't hit the beach in force until the temp hits 30.
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Barbarella's
I haven't been to Rio in about four years. I'm devastated that Help closed! I loved that place. I found the most amazing girls there. More than a few times I ended up with girls from Barbarella's, though I never actually went there. What's it like in Barbarella's these days? Still good?
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[QUOTE=Hughdad] Learn the language, find an open minded lady to share adventures with and set out. Then you will learn what the ladies here truly think. But you will not like what you hear. [/QUOTE]
Don't you need the garota first in order to learn the language from her? ;) Pimsleur and the ilk don't teach a good vocabulary set for picking up non-pros for any serious stuff, I think of the character Borat and how lame his English sounds to American women and hope my Pims Porto isn't perceived like that in Brasil. What method of learning did you use?
Not like what we hear? Please elaborate. We already know Cariocas like our money and go to Copa to gather it, but think poorly of us for taking part in their set up. Next month I'll stay in Centro and try to pass myself off as a respectable gringo and see if it works. If a taxi driver asks me if I want to go to Copa, then I'll have been racially profiled. :)
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Karla Models - Photo-shopped
Called them yesterday and chose Julia vanucci. 120 reals + 25+25 for taxi.
She arrived in 10-15 minutes, so she may have already been in copa. Is 50 reals standard for taxi with Karlas?
[url]http://www.karlamodels.net/principal_eua.html[/url]
To make long short she showed me the book and then asked for money up front and said this was company policy??
I paid which I have never done before, but I didn't have time to order anything else. Her body was nothing like that in the picture, she was out of shape, quite scarred, and I have see less hair on a baboon. Her skin was not fair either. One bonus was that her tits were natural and in good condition and were way bigger than that of the picture.
She started of slow and un-enthusiastic, and got better throughout the 2 hours. 2 pops, CIM etc, but no anal, In her words 'There is no way I can take THAT in my culo'
I was going to look through the book again for next time, but just couldn't be bothered!
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Called them yesterday and chose Julia vanucci. 120 reals + 25+25 for taxi.
She arrived in 10-15 minutes, so she may have already been in copa. Is 50 reals standard for taxi with Karlas?
[url]http://www.karlamodels.net/principal_eua.html[/url]
To make long short she showed me the book and then asked for money up front and said this was company policy?
I paid which I have never done before, but I didn't have time to order anything else. Her body was nothing like that in the picture, she was out of shape, quite scarred, and I have see less hair on a baboon. Her skin was not fair either. One bonus was that her tits were natural and in good condition and were way bigger than that of the picture.
She started of slow and un-enthusiastic, and got better throughout the 2 hours. 2 pops, CIM etc, but no anal, In her words 'There is no way I can take THAT in my culo'
I was going to look through the book again for next time, but just couldn't be bothered![/QUOTE]Sounds like you got a real kook'lid of a garota. Is there a protocol for what to do when this happens -- when the goods that show up at the door are not as advertized?
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Called them yesterday and chose Julia vanucci. 120 reals + 25+25 for taxi.
I have see less hair on a baboon. Her skin was not fair either. One bonus was that her tits were natural and in good condition and were way bigger than that of the picture. 2 pops, CIM etc, but no anal, In her words 'There is no way I can take THAT in my culo'[/QUOTE]I can't stop laughing about that baboon remark. About the anal you should have argued with her because her add says complete. "Blond, 22 years, beautiful full breasts, 1,66 of height, mannequin 40, straight hair, complete."
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Is there a conference in Rio next week, or something?
All the hotels are booked solid for the end of May. The remaining are charging $500+ per room.
What is the deal?
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[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Sounds like you got a real kook'lid of a garota. Is there a protocol for what to do when this happens -- when the goods that show up at the door are not as advertized?[/QUOTE]
Yes, you hand her 50R and send her back to the agency. I would reccomend looking thru the book first before you do that, so you can if there is a girl there you might like.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Yes, you hand her 50R and send her back to the agency. I would reccomend looking thru the book first before you do that, so you can if there is a girl there you might like.[/QUOTE]
I have only had one mediocre experience with Karla Models in 10 trips. I am usually more than satisfied with my selection and only had to send a GDP walking once.
I was told by a few GDP's that they use an "in house" driver.
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karlamodels
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Called them yesterday and chose Julia vanucci. 120 reals + 25+25 for taxi.
She arrived in 10-15 minutes, so she may have already been in copa. Is 50 reals standard for taxi with Karlas?
[url]http://www.karlamodels.net/principal_eua.html[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the info on Julie V. Koolkid, I was planning to see her on my next visit to Rio in June. From the photos she looks stunning. Your feedback is very informative.
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Karlamodels-Scortshow return policy
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Sounds like you got a real kook'lid of a garota. Is there a protocol for what to do when this happens -- when the goods that show up at the door are not as advertized?[/QUOTE]
You pay the 2-way taxi fee and send her back. This is why it is good to see the "book" first, or at least when you get the first girl. Then you can do a better pick of the next girl. For showing the book they might charge a fee, if you don't order someone instantly.
But sending back is kind of embarrassing, try your best to do a good pick.
There are other interesting options. One of them is to take a room at Hotel Barão de Flamengo and see the book there. Request your favorite to bring the book. If you don't like her, request the next.
You save the taxi fee (if the girl is from scortshow, not from karlamodels. scortshow girls are the upper half of [url]www.scortshow.net[/url] . This is about the same as the hotel cost (I think it is 45 Reais. 2nd girl at the same time costs extra, 2nd girl afterwards does NOT cost extra, but I am not sure if they give you enough time to do 2 girls in a row.
Barão de Flamengo is 3 blocks from Metro "Largo do Machado"
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Yes, you hand her 50R and send her back to the agency. I would reccomend looking thru the book first before you do that, so you can if there is a girl there you might like.[/QUOTE]
actually, you pay the taxi fee which usually is less then 50, but could occasionally be more .......
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Called them yesterday and chose Julia vanucci. 120 reals + 25+25 for taxi.
She arrived in 10-15 minutes, so she may have already been in copa. Is 50 reals standard for taxi with Karlas?
[url]http://www.karlamodels.net/principal_eua.html[/url]
To make long short she showed me the book and then asked for money up front and said this was company policy??
I paid which I have never done before, but I didn't have time to order anything else. Her body was nothing like that in the picture, she was out of shape, quite scarred, and I have see less hair on a baboon. Her skin was not fair either. One bonus was that her tits were natural and in good condition and were way bigger than that of the picture.
She started of slow and un-enthusiastic, and got better throughout the 2 hours. 2 pops, CIM etc, but no anal, In her words 'There is no way I can take THAT in my culo'
I was going to look through the book again for next time, but just couldn't be bothered![/QUOTE]
Money up front is normal, except for regular customers (like me)
Lots of hair: normal in Brazilian girls, if it is dyed blond then Brazilians actually like it
Take it as a compliment if she thinks you are too hung. If you are really really big you might want to ask the agency who is completissima, para dotação muito grande.
Now if your size is less then that, a bit of insistence might help. Threatening to complain also often helps, just grabbing the phone and say you will complain often gets her to comply. On the other hand, the girls are usually compliant, often have a sore a.. hole from overusage, and if you complain they get a hefty fine. So I suggest you try to threaten but don't follow through.
But this is all a little tricky, good knowledge of language is useful. There also is a think like a.. fucking skills, how to ease in slowly, maybe not stick it in all the way, etc .....
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Cost of Vips Motel
[QUOTE=Jota Erre]I don't wanna end sounding like spam, but hey... you can check yourself (their web is in english):
[url]http://www.vipsmotel.com.br/[/url]
VIPS Motel
(Av. Niemeyer, 418, Leblon, Tel: 3322-1662)
there are other fine motels... though VIPS is probably the best... and the most expensive one.[/QUOTE]
These are ballpark numbers, from my head. Might vary a bit
Their basic rooms are around R$ 85. Basic decent room, but only interested for married guys who need an escape. Not much better then what you already have at home.
I suggest to invest about 200-300 Reais. For that you get something spectacular to remember. The top rooms are above R$ 600, but you don't need a BIG pool or 3-4 beds etc.
Note the prices are for a couple, any additional 2 people are the cost of a basic room. For big parties you can negotiate a little less
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Rio Escorting
Hi guys. I have had some fun looking at the website and seems there is a lot of action. As a complete newbie to Brazil and Rio, I'd like some advise from you all. Now, before I ask the question, I have a lot of 'punting' experience throughout the world.
However, there does seem to be a lot of conflicting reports with agencies, so which agency is realistic (the girls in the online photos are those that show up) and how is the independant scene?
Apologies if this is already been discussed in the forum, but I am sure you guys will assist.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Mark Saucy]Hi guys. I have had some fun looking at the website and seems there is a lot of action. As a complete newbie to Brazil and Rio, I'd like some advise from you all. Now, before I ask the question, I have a lot of 'punting' experience throughout the world.
However, there does seem to be a lot of conflicting reports with agencies, so which agency is realistic (the girls in the online photos are those that show up) and how is the independant scene?
Apologies if this is already been discussed in the forum, but I am sure you guys will assist.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Dear Mark Saucy - the challenge in Brasil is not so much whether you have had good punting experience but one of grappling with somewhere that is probably totally different to expectations. I'd say RTFF but you will have to do that anyway, it will pay off, but I understand what a big task it is. You'll find some suggestions about ways to do Rio in a week or whatever. Usually they won't include agencies. It will be along the lines of, enjoy the headiness of Copa, then try Centro maybe top end like 4x4 and low end like BA85; and if you have the inkling for it, VM after that. Agencies can be fun, but you may find yourself frustrated jumping through hoops as well, and you can miss some of the unique flavours of Brasil while staying in for 'room service.'
Sort out your practicalities - download and customise the Bubba guide and print off Sperto's maps. Work out where you'll stay - hotel or apartment. Work out how much of the language you can realistically accommodate. Have a rough idea of at least how to get between places like Copa and Centro and how to get round Centro. Rio is one enormous frickin city, most of it moves at a breakneck pace, and when you arrive you are suddenly in the fast lane. I think it's safe to say that if you do lots of 'head' thinking now, you will have much more freedom to do the nice think-with-the-dick when you arrive. Unlike most places in the world, there is an extravagant plethora of possibilities for the latter. But negotiating Rio is as challenging as Tokyo. A first time visit to New York or London is child's play. Don't worry about whether you want 'the one with big titties' just now (for instance). The options are overpoweringly immense. Taking advantage of them is harder. Hence the RTFF's and a hope that you spend the time before arriving doing the analytical stuff with dick on hold. Rio is the best drug you can imagine. Just get your life support systems fully functional first. :)
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[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]actually, you pay the taxi fee which usually is less then 50, but could occasionally be more .......[/QUOTE]
One thing you can count on. No GDP is going to say "I was already in Copa and just walked 3 blocks over here, save the 50R!" You are going to pay the full 50R, even if her previous customer is in the same building as you are. hahahhha!!
Side note: I have never paid money upfront for a Karla girl, it is always after the deed.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]One thing you can count on. No GDP is going to say "I was already in Copa and just walked 3 blocks over here, save the 50R!" You are going to pay the full 50R, even if her previous customer is in the same building as you are. hahahhha!!
Side note: I have never paid money upfront for a Karla girl, it is always after the deed.[/QUOTE]
So really when you order from karlas you pay 170 reals for a girl for 2 hours that you have never seen or spoken to. I may just keep picking girls from the usual places in copa as I have been getting longer than 2 hours for 150 and I have had the chance to see if we connect aswell. Also the termas.
Now I think about the receptionist even quoted me this on the phone 120 + 50 taxi, you pay julia 170 reals. Anyway thats all history now, another day and all that!
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Centro
Went to centro early today. Found Uru 210 but it was closed, so headed over to Uru 24. Yes the stairs are wider than BA85 and there were about 4 girls on each floor. There was a young petite blonde on floor 2 I think, with a great rack on her, and pretty but she was snapped up as soon as I approached her. In fact all the girls at this place seemed to have large'ish natural tits. The music is very loud and the cabins are in the main bar area so its not very private.
I chose Lavivine or somthing from the top floor and she took me to some cabins on the next floor again. Man this place is filthy compared to BA85.
CBJ and and doggie with me stood up as I was not going near that bed. The doors of the cabins don't close properly and a little black chick was outside looking in, second time that has happened to me now. 18 reals.
Went and got a x-tudo burger, then went and tried Uru 210 but it was still closed?
So went to BA85. Floor 3 had the best selection but there were lots of brazilian guys hanging around so I moved on. Sat and had a beer on the top floor and a Big white girl came and sat next to me named Samara. She had a pretty face with a nice smile. Took her to the cabin for 20 mins. BBBJ and doggie. HUGE ASS AND TITS (Bit of BBW). 20 reals. I asked for a photo and she said no but gave me her mobile number. Through the broken english and portuguese, I can call her and she will be completa at my apartment.
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A little help please.
I need alittle help does anyone know where I can find this girl her name is shayene she's really nice use to work at 4x4 I would really like to hook up with her she is into chicks but hey was with her before. She is the blonde she did a private video for me before too she's the best.
Any information would be great guys
Thanks,
Mimzy
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Pix in VM
Is it typical for VM girls to allow pics?
I see that Sperto has posted a few, but not many people seem to get pix from there.
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Pictures
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Is it typical for VM girls to allow pics?
I see that Sperto has posted a few, but not many people seem to get pix from there.[/QUOTE]
A lot of us have pictures, we just don't post them on the internet. It all is a matter of trust and respect. The same guys who have no problem posting a recognizable picture of a girl on the internet would call out the dogs if someone posted a picture of them. Yeah, I know -- these girls have sex with men for money. They are a much lower form of life than the guys paying them.
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Point Made!!!
[QUOTE=Exec Talent] Yeah, I know -- these girls have sex with men for money. They are a much lower form of life than the guys paying them.[/QUOTE]
I'm really not into posting pics. I don't see any problems with the posting of actual faces from the agencies book. Hell, too many people have negative comments in the first place to do any true sharing. Thank goodness for pm's and email.
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Went to centro early today. Found Uru 210 but it was closed, so headed over to Uru 24. Yes the stairs are wider than BA85 and there were about 4 girls on each floor. There was a young petite blonde on floor 2 I think, with a great rack on her, and pretty but she was snapped up as soon as I approached her. In fact all the girls at this place seemed to have large'ish natural tits. The music is very loud and the cabins are in the main bar area so its not very private.[/QUOTE]
Nice report.
You're right, Uruguaiana 24 have some very nice talents with large natural tits.
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It's just a shame that the cabins are in the main bar area. A bit disturbing and a lack of privacy.
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Centro Casas
Hello !
I wonder about the Casas in Centro where you pay per minute.
Do you normally get better unrushed service here because the Chica wants you to stay as long as possible.
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ButtLover
Your pay-per-minute-girl may not provide you with a rushed service but the circumstances in the casa are such that YOU try to get out the fastest way you can.
Usually these places are the lowest and dirtiest casas you can inmagine.
I tried it two times: the fist and the last time.
Avoid
Carlos
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Pay before? I think not!
An odd thing happened to me at 4X4 last night. I had already gone to a room with one lady and was on my way upstairs with another when my new-found companion took me downstairs to the ladies at reception. There they told me that they wanted me to pay the balance for the night then and there before I went to the room for my second round. I was baffled as to why .... maybe there have been tourists who ran up a big bill and then were unable to pay. As it stood, my tab was only around R$650. None-the-less, I refused to pay anything until my exit. I told them (in both English & Portuguese) that isn´t the way that things are done and I´m not going to start doing it.
Since I wouldn´t budge on my position they eventually gave in and I went on upstairs. Kind of pissed me off though. I gave them a piece of my mind when I left later on. Must say that I´ll still keep going to the ol' Quatro. They have some good ladies there; just takes a while to brush aside the fatties. The quentinha/spinner I took up for my second round certainly made the aggravation worth it. Will be seeing her again.
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Is Ingrid or Laura still working at L'uomo?
I havent been to rio in couple of years and was curious as to whether or not my 2 fave girls from L'uomo are still around? Any know about Ingrid or Laura?
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick] As it stood, my tab was only around R$650. None-the-less, I refused to pay anything until my exit. I told them (in both English & Portuguese) that isn´t the way that things are done and I´m not going to start doing it.
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DSK, that is not new. I think if the bill is over 500R and you are going back upstairs for more rounds, they might ask you to pay first. They did it to one of my good friends, he had indulged in 2, 3 somes and was headed upstairs for his 3rd 3some of the night (virgin trip). They sent him downstairs and made him pay his bill before he could go back and do his 3rd 3some.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Went to centro early today. Found Uru 210 but it was closed, so headed over to Uru 24. Yes the stairs are wider than BA85 and there were about 4 girls on each floor. There was a young petite blonde on floor 2 I think, with a great rack on her, and pretty but she was snapped up as soon as I approached her. In fact all the girls at this place seemed to have large'ish natural tits. The music is very loud and the cabins are in the main bar area so its not very private.
I chose Lavivine or somthing from the top floor and she took me to some cabins on the next floor again. Man this place is filthy compared to BA85.
CBJ and and doggie with me stood up as I was not going near that bed. The doors of the cabins don't close properly and a little black chick was outside looking in, second time that has happened to me now. 18 reals.
Went and got a x-tudo burger, then went and tried Uru 210 but it was still closed? ...[/QUOTE]
Last I checked it was open 4PM to 12 seg a sexta, 12 to 6PM sabado.
Kind of strange for centro.
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Depends
There are hundreds of massage/private casas in the Centro office buildings around Avenida Rio Branco, Presidente Vargas and other street areas that haven't been reported upon this board. Many are priced like a real per minte places if not cheaper. There are also too many others to mention here that are priced just like a per minute place but realy aren't but are way off on the beaten path all over places like Tijuca, Botafogo, and so on. it is up to each person to research and explore. There are plenty of nice places out there that are decens and don't cost you an arm and a leg. Check the local boards. there are virtually an unlimited source of locations to explore. Get out of Copa nd the choices are indeed unlimited.
[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]Your pay-per-minute-girl may not provide you with a rushed service but the circumstances in the casa are such that YOU try to get out the fastest way you can.
Usually these places are the lowest and dirtiest casas you can inmagine.
I tried it two times: the fist and the last time.
Avoid
Carlos[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]I'm really not into posting pics. I don't see any problems with the posting of actual faces from the agencies book. Hell, too many people have negative comments in the first place to do any true sharing. Thank goodness for pm's and email.
ryjer[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but for every jerk out there making bad comments on pix, there are probably 20 people that learn something from those pix. For example, recently I found myself in Tokyo with time to kill and FF miles to burn...so I was trying to decide between going to Manila, Pattaya, or the long haul to Jakarta. Services and prices being mostly equal, I looked at the pix and decided that Jakarta had the most stunners so I went there. I arrived to find the whole north of the city full of girls straight out of the villages and willing to please in every way, not a bunch of hard looking WGs like I saw in the PI and LOS pics. So without the guys showing off their prize pix, I may have missed out on experiencing JKT. The same thing probably happens when guys are considering BsAs vs Rio. They can use pix to help them with the choice. So pix were never a priority for me in the past, but now I am buying a new camera and hope to post a lot of Rio pix next month.
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Pay before Not!!!
[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]An odd thing happened to me at 4X4 last night. I had already gone to a room with one lady and was on my way upstairs with another when my new-found companion took me downstairs to the ladies at reception. There they told me that they wanted me to pay the balance for the night then and there before I went to the room for my second round. I was baffled as to why .... maybe there have been tourists who ran up a big bill and then were unable to pay. As it stood, my tab was only around R$650. None-the-less, I refused to pay anything until my exit. I told them (in both English & Portuguese) that isn´t the way that things are done and I´m not going to start doing it.
Since I wouldn´t budge on my position they eventually gave in and I went on upstairs. Kind of pissed me off though. I gave them a piece of my mind when I left later on. Must say that I´ll still keep going to the ol' Quatro. They have some good ladies there; just takes a while to brush aside the fatties. The quentinha/spinner I took up for my second round certainly made the aggravation worth it. Will be seeing her again.
- DSK[/QUOTE
I have never had that happen. I have did numerous visits where the total bill was well over 750R for taking multiple girls upstairs. (which was good when the Real was over 2.5 to 3). Maybe they have started to change due to a lot of people come and do not have enough money. I watched one night as a Brazilian was short and they escorted him to go get the money.
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[QUOTE]I have never had that happen. I have did numerous visits where the total bill was well over 750R for taking multiple girls upstairs. (which was good when the Real was over 2.5 to 3). Maybe they have started to change due to a lot of people come and do not have enough money. I watched one night as a Brazilian was short and they escorted him to go get the money.[/QUOTE]
That´s the only thing that I can figure. The thing is; I have been going to 4X4 on a regular basis for the past 8 years or so; and it´s not the first time I´ve had a bill as high or higher than that. So as far as I´m concerned they should know that I can pay my tab. If they don´t like it then tough cookies.
If someone plays and then doesn´t have the cash to pay then they deserve to get roughed up and escorted to the cash machine. Me? I always pay the cost to be the boss.
- DSK
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick] and it´s not the first time I´ve had a bill as high or higher than that.
- DSK[/QUOTE]
Do you pay cash or can you pay all or part using credit card?
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Dirty Casas
[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]Your pay-per-minute-girl may not provide you with a rushed service but the circumstances in the casa are such that YOU try to get out the fastest way you can.
Usually these places are the lowest and dirtiest casas you can inmagine.
I tried it two times: the fist and the last time.
Avoid
Carlos[/QUOTE]
Hi
I have no problems with dirty casas like this from Guayaquil
I dont think the Casas in Centro are worse !?
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[QUOTE=ButtLover]Hi
I have no problems with dirty casas like this from Guayaquil
I dont think the Casas in Centro are worse !?
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108040[/url][/QUOTE]That is is more so Vila Mimosa style. I remember Calle 18 in Guayaquil where some rooms were set up like the girl lived there. They had a dresser and chest of drawers with all their belongings and pictures of their kids on top. Then another strip/fuck club that a taxi driver took me to had the built up partitions like you would find in a casa in downtown Rio.
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Do you pay cash or can you pay all or part using credit card?[/QUOTE]
Despite what most gringos in the USA might think, in most parts of the World cash is still King. I rarely use a CC when out of the states - just my personal preference.
Every termas is a little different about their policies but I believe that if they do let you use a CC then you will have an added fee for using it. 4X4 let´s you use credit for sure. If I remember correctly, Monte Carlo will let you pay for entrance and drinks with a CC, but they want the ladies' portion paid in cash.
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Credit cards
Despite my disbelief, i actually saw local guys using credit cards in the Centro Termas...Astonishing!
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[QUOTE=Sith Dude]I havent been to rio in couple of years and was curious as to whether or not my 2 fave girls from L'uomo are still around? Any know about Ingrid or Laura?[/QUOTE]
Don't know either of them , but the turnover in these places is such that I would be shocked if they were still there. These aren't govt. workers putting in their 40 years to get a pension. These are working girls with the attention span of a mayfly, godluvem.
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Ingid - Luomos
[QUOTE=Spinnerman]Don't know either of them , but the turnover in these places is such that I would be shocked if they were still there. These aren't govt. workers putting in their 40 years to get a pension. These are working girls with the attention span of a mayfly, godluvem.[/QUOTE]
Ingrid was there in November/december. Don't know about now.
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ingrid
[QUOTE=Mangera]Ingrid was there in November/december. Don't know about now.[/QUOTE]I saw Ingrid in April and she said she only works Friday, Sat, and Sun now.
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4x4
Had another blast at this place yesterday with an american friend. The place was packed, but not as busy as it can get.
Picked a young little girl called saphira, she has the most beautiful face. Well toned stomach and legs, with a cute little bubble but. She usually wears some small denium hot pants that are more like a thong. And the highest high heels I've seen on a women. She said completa, but could not do anal with me, but really I was not complaing. We took an hour in the cabin used every minut of it up. She wore me out and she had multiples. The cabin was next to the reception where they take you before you go to the cabin. Which was abit off putting as you could here everybody checking in. Especially a loud american complaining at the top of his voice.
She screamed the house down and we were greeted with smiles as we left from the receptionists. I asked for pictures and she said sure as long as no internet, so I will respect her wishes. She spoke no english, but that did not really matter. If you go there, check her out!!
Will be back there again tomorrow, and then Luomo on Saturday.
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[QUOTE=Trafukin]I saw Ingrid in April and she said she only works Friday, Sat, and Sun now.[/QUOTE]
The story is she married a gringo which is why she disappeared for a while. Then it fell apart so she is back but not regularly.
Don't remember Laura. What did she look like?
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]The story is she married a gringo which is why she disappeared for a while. Then it fell apart so she is back but not regularly.
Don't remember Laura. What did she look like?[/QUOTE]You never know with these girls but don't know if that's true. I also saw and talked to her in Dec\Jan.
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4x4
[QUOTE=Koolkid]
Will be back there again tomorrow, and then Luomo on Saturday.[/QUOTE]
What are the going rates now at 4x4? Still R220/40 and no entrance fee before 5 pm?
I had a nicer experience last year at Bar 22 than at L'uomo, and the price was much lower. L'uomo was not bad, and the performances were about the same, but the environment at 22 was more festive. I'd recommend 22 as an alternative to save some cash since you are mongering there for so long. All these termas garotas say completa. If you want to keep them honest, ask to look in their purse first. If the lidocaine cream is in there, she's completa. If not, probably not.
Since you're doing the termas tour, please give us a report on the current prices and talent at Florida as well. :) I've chosen Ibis Centro as my primary base for my trip next month and appreciate the good intel that you've been giving for that area. Ibis is currently about $R153/noite and has good proximity to BA, RB, VM. Seems close enough to Lapa bars to make some non-pro activities feasible, so it could be interesting. People have reported pulling from Scenarium. You might check that if you get bored and don't mind the hassle of a non-pro.
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Where are you getting your prices from?
Where are you checking your hotel prices? You quoted Hotel Premier for BR153 and the Hotel Ibis Centro for BR135. I would be extremely interested not only in those rates but the site where you checked. Is this website reliable? Please, let me know. I would be there in August.
As far as 4 X 4 rates, they were charging R220/50 as late as January this year with no entry if you session before 5pm.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]What are the going rates now at 4x4? Still R220/40 and no entrance fee before 5 pm?
I had a nicer experience last year at Bar 22 than at L'uomo, and the price was much lower. L'uomo was not bad, and the performances were about the same, but the environment at 22 was more festive. I'd recommend 22 as an alternative to save some cash since you are mongering there for so long. All these termas garotas say completa. If you want to keep them honest, ask to look in their purse first. If the lidocaine cream is in there, she's completa. If not, probably not.
Since you're doing the termas tour, please give us a report on the current prices and talent at Florida as well. :) I've chosen Ibis Centro as my primary base for my trip next month and appreciate the good intel that you've been giving for that area. Ibis is currently about $R153/noite and has good proximity to BA, RB, VM. Seems close enough to Lapa bars to make some non-pro activities feasible, so it could be interesting. People have reported pulling from Scenarium. You might check that if you get bored and don't mind the hassle of a non-pro.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Where are you checking your hotel prices? You quoted Hotel Premier for BR153 and the Hotel Ibis Centro for BR135. I would be extremely interested not only in those rates but the site where you checked. Is this website reliable? Please, let me know. I would be there in August.
As far as 4 X 4 rates, they were charging R220/50 as late as January this year with no entry if you session before 5pm.[/QUOTE]
I screwed up and had to edit that. It is R154 at Ibis, R135 at Premier toward the end of June. I checked Ibis' website and Hotel Reservation System HRS for Premier. Copa just wasn't interesting me that much last June, dead, so I am bugging out this June to Centro, and Ibis seems to be the best girl friendly hotel up there. Hopefully I can pull some freebies from Lapa, or if worse comes to worse I'd try to pull a decent nordenista at Feira SC. All the other gringos seemed to be at home in June last year, so I should have been trying to save a buck by finding gringo hunters in bars. But I was staying in Copa like a true monger and figured that I'd not be able to fool a non-pro once she found out I was staying in Copa, so I never tried roaming elsewhere after freebies and spent most of the time enjoying Centro P4P back and forth to Copa via Metro.
I'll be trying to make up for something stupid I did over in Indonesia last month..turning down a ST at the low-low price of Brasil equivalent R$2, todo including pics and anal. Then I took a better looking girl at 30 times that price and had to kick her out of the room before she ever got her clothes off, for backing out of doing pics which she had already agreed to in the bar. Total damage Brasil equivalent R$4 taxi fare and went to bed with blue balls. Can the BA85 challenge can absolve me? I have never been clear on whether a pop is required on each floor, if so, I'll have to plan accordingly with sleep and chemistry. Last time I didn't even session there, cause my dick was a little sore from being grabbed too hard on the stairs and my shirt had been pulled so many times that I decided to leave and hit RB for something more slow and enjoyable.
But BA85 is sounding nice to me now, as does U210 and the place on Ouvidor that is really cheap and I could never find last time, 1 pop unlimited time. When they say unlimited time at Ouvidor, I wonder if they mean unlimited time unenhanced or unconditionally? If mongers are enhancing with C or similar without needing it, they can go damn near forever with a rubber and not pop even if they want to. So then that pushes the girls into these situations where they are switching to bareback to get the session over with, or at least that's been my experience elsewhere.
Thanks for the 4x4 quote. I'll splurge/spooge there just before my flight out like last time. It's my belief that everyone should reach GIG worn out and smelling of GDP perfume all the way home!
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]
I had a nicer experience last year at Bar 22 than at L'uomo, and the price was much lower. L'uomo was not bad, and the performances were about the same, but the environment at 22 was more festive. I'd recommend 22 as an alternative to save some cash since you are mongering there for so long. All these termas garotas say completa.
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PP,
Could you tell us more about Bar 22 like address and price? I'm interested in checking it out on my next trip in the next couple of months.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Sprite13]PP,
Could you tell us more about Bar 22 like address and price? I'm interested in checking it out on my next trip in the next couple of months.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Bar 22 is in Copa on 22 Siqueria Campos toward the beach from Luomo and the metro station. I would say its a big step below Luomo in atmosphere and a big step above NS Copa 583 204 which had a little joke of a bar and a only few garotas. 22 is more of a normal bar with a lot of people just drinking and some girls available in the boite. About 10 on the Friday night when I was there. I paid $R100/30 but you can do better. Check SlimHoleDrill's post here.
[post]1017999[/post]
When I compare 22 to Luomo, I am comparing to Ane at L'uomo as the representative girl. Some others on here have sessioned with her. She was an energizer bunny with great presentation like L'uomo girls have, except especially good with glittery makeup and PVC outfit with boots. But all that comes off in the cabine, except the boots which I made her keep on. Then you realize that you just paid more for boite presentation, marketing to be exact. Down the street at 22, it was more real transitioning from the boite to cabine because the presentation in the boite is about the same as when you get to the cabine. The garota called Bianca at Bar 22 was much more girl-next-door and a better Brasilian experience, less professional and more natural and enjoyable. The other garotas seemed to be of the same persona. YMMV.
22 had garota bingo, which I loved from a previous Sao Paulo trip and haven't seen anywhere in Rio other than 22. Brasilian guys were drinking it up and having a good time groping the girls and hoping to win bingo. As the bingo cards fill up, the energy of the place becomes amazing with everyone in anticipation of winning a free session. The bingo slip had a picture of a little cartoon squaw with a feather in her hair, so I think it was made specifically for termas bingo. The girl that I eventually sessioned sat on my lap waiting to see if I would win her, and sticking her tongue in my ear. When I didn't win, I paid at the entrance window at the top of the stairs and we went back for fuck. It was a fun place. Anyway, I'd pick Bar 22 over L'uomo because it made me feel like I was in normal Rio instead of feeling like a tourist trap, the feel of L'uomo. But more discriminating high-class mongers would prefer L'uomo for the cleaner and more upscale environment.
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[quote=noddy]despite my disbelief, i actually saw local guys using credit cards in the centro termas...astonishing![/quote]
atm/credit cards are widely used in brasil, i see them used all the time in the sucos for small purchases, they have those wireless terminals they bring you to the table/counter to swipe your card for security.
i extensively used my card in helpee (when it was open) and all the termas trouble free, with no fees at a very healthy rate.
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Vila Mimosa picture book
[QUOTE=Christopherd]For those who might like a visual memory of the mucky alleyways:
Vila Mimosa (Paperback)
by Hanspeter Schneider (Photographer)
is available very cheaply from the [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vila-Mimosa-Hanspeter-Schneider/dp/1904688047/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274207331&sr=1-1"]Amazon UK[/url] website (currently unavailable when I last checked the U.S. based one).
...Shit-street level and very real. Just don't expect a collection of nice ISG pics of the loveliest lookers in alluring poses.
[color=grey]
[i]"His pictures, taken in a fragment of a second, are frozen stories. They start before the push of the button and go on in the fantasy of the viewer after the shutter is closed"
"His images provoke humour and offer a taste of a darker world in a more colourful way."[/i][/color]
Ho hum . . .[/QUOTE]
My copy arrived today. Your review was right on. This is a very "belly of the beast" pictorial. Btw, I purchased from The_Book_Depository on Amazon US, $19.38 new.
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Puta Playa, please clear your inbox
I tried to reply to your recent post. No room. Please provide room.
Saudades, Westy
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Colostomy
Hey Guys,
Has anyone here had any experience of going to Brazil with a Colostomy. Has anyone here ever explained the Colostomy to a working girl with ok results in that she was fine to do a programa? I am guessing that most will never have seen one before.
Would appreciate any experiences.
Magic 2000
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[QUOTE=Magic2000]Hey Guys,
Has anyone here had any experience of going to Brazil with a Colostomy. Has anyone here ever explained the Colostomy to a working girl with ok results in that she was fine to do a programa? I am guessing that most will never have seen one before.
Would appreciate any experiences.
Magic 2000[/QUOTE]
Don't worry. I don't think anything stops a GP, except an empty wallet. I did 2 different programas in Termas Dreams in Sao Paulo whilst my chest was covered in my own visible and aromatic vomit. Neither garota seemed to mind.
Your least complicated approach is to go to an apartment like Bel Prazer and show the mama/papa. They will be able to set you up with a friendly girl from their squad.
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Weekends in Centro and Norte
There have been a lot of reports about a lack of GP's in this area of town on the weekends. I'd like to point out that Bel Prazer in Centro and Massagem Tijuca near Maracanã both have hours on Saturday, 10-3 and 10-6:30 respectively.
MT is a subsidary of Flavia, so should be good, and has lower pricing too.
I have mixed feelings on BP cause I picked a veteran girl (Isabela) from there last year with hopes of completa per reports on GPguia, only to find that she doesn't even want CIM and got furious when I did shoot in her mouth. If I knew in advance that a girl wouldn't take CIM, I'd never be willing to pay more than 1R/min. Unfortunately, she was not the only cum dodger that I sessioned on my last trip! I can get unlimited time 1 pop with DFK, DATY, DATA and BBBJwCIM for a mere R$60 equivalent in the BJ salons in Tokyo, one of the most expensive cities in the world..so in Rio at R$100+ I justifiably expect all that plus the FS as standard. This motivated me to work on my Porto, so I can communicate my needs and hopefully have less disappointments.
Nevertheless, BP is still another good Saturday option for something more relaxed than BA85. Some others really like the place, so maybe I just got the wrong one for GFE. Mentally, I keep expecting liberal minimum services at these higher end apartments, even though I know there are no house rules and it varies by girl. One down the street from there insisted on CBJ, while one at another sala tried to take me bareback in her butt. For safe people whose idea of GFE doesn't involve wallowing in each others juices, I guess I could even recommend BP's Isabela to them, as she wasn't a bad lay and really worked up a sweat humping cowgirl to try to get me off with CFS prior to the CIM 'incident.'
MT has better pricing, R135 for a hora dupla. I see from GPGuia that they have a couple of alleged completas there and my flight comes in well before hotel check-in time...hmm..I think I'll pull a Hughdad and arrive at the casa straight from GIG without even dropping my piece of luggage first. ;) This could be rough, both for me because the long flight and for the garotas who will be getting a cu workout so early in their day. We will see.
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VM Pic Book
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]My copy arrived today. Your review was right on. This is a very "belly of the beast" pictorial. Btw, I purchased from The_Book_Depository on Amazon US, $19.38 new.[/QUOTE]I just bought a copy as well. For a few preview shots see the author's webpage. [url]http://www.hanspeterschneider.com/art_books/vila_mimosa.html#[/url]
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Ingrid
[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]The story is she married a gringo which is why she disappeared for a while. Then it fell apart so she is back but not regularly.
Don't remember Laura. What did she look like?[/QUOTE]
Sessioned with her last night, she certainly lives up to her reputation, no holes barred. She fucked the hell out of me. She must go through 5 men a night, easy. It was a good party atmosphere in there last night, beers only 6 reals which was good. They had food laid on, and it tasted pretty good. Can't remember the pork dish name though.
Then went onto Melt in ipanema, had to queue for 45 mins to get in. Young brazilian crowd in there, and it was packed, you could not move. How it meets fire regulations I don't know. Good night though, to see how they all let there hair down on weekend.
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Koolkid:
In Rio myself. Did Ingrid last night around 5ish. OUTSTANDING. Also was in Melt, but went through kitchen door to the VIP. Wasn't waiting in the line.
Today went back to L'Uomo and sessioned with Nathalia and Natasha. Both good. Then I went to the locker area and noticed my wallet was missing 3x R$100 notes. Argued with the management but got nowhere. NOT GOING BACK EVER. And if I do I am bringing my cash into the boite and cabinas. F-ing Putas!
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L'uomo Locker Room
[QUOTE=Thong Diva]Koolkid:
In Rio myself. Did Ingrid last night around 5ish. OUTSTANDING. Also was in Melt, but went through kitchen door to the VIP. Wasn't waiting in the line.
Today went back to L'Uomo and sessioned with Nathalia and Natasha. Both good. Then I went to the locker area and noticed my wallet was missing 3x R$100 notes. Argued with the management but got nowhere. NOT GOING BACK EVER. And if I do I am bringing my cash into the boite and cabinas. F-ing Putas![/QUOTE]
I think I speak for about 1000 guys who have been to L'uomo 100s of times. I have never heard of anyone missing anything. Ever. Unless they have had some recent personnel changes, the women working the locker room are not people I would accuse of thievery.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I think I speak for about 1000 guys who have been to L'uomo 100s of times. I have never heard of anyone missing anything. Ever. Unless they have had some recent personnel changes, the women working the locker room are not people I would accuse of thievery.[/QUOTE]Here's the thing. I've found this board so useful for information, that when it happened I felt I needed to post something. I find it hard to even believe it happened to me because I've had so many good experiences at L'Uomo myself.
It definitely happened at L'Uomo and I'll tell you why. Went to Citibank on Visconde de Piraja around 4. 30pm on Sunday afternoon and took out R$500. I already had R$450 in my wallet and figured I would have some insurance cash. What struck me was that I received 3 x R$100 notes. This was the first time I had ever gotten R$100 notes and thought to myself, oh these are going to be a pain to get rid of. So I thought I would use them at L'Uomo. Hopped into a taxi and got to L'Uomo about 8 minutes later. Paid taxi R$14 and saw the R$100 notes in my wallet when I had taken money out.
Into L'Uomo. Locker room attendant was a girl with curly hair. She was there the day before (Saturday) and I had given her a R$5 tip, which I thought was a decent one. I normally don't pay much attention to these girls, obviously because my focus is on what's through the door.
I had sessioned with Ingrid the day before. Ingrid's reputation precedes herself and it is well-deserved. Unfortunately, by the time I arrived she was already busy with someone else, although she did come over and say hello. Patricia then sat down next to me and started to do the usual kiss in the ear routine. I let that go on for about a minute or two but told her politely that I did not intend on sessioning with her and that I didn't want to waste her time (and mine too). She just didn't do it for me. Didn't seem to be any hard feelings either.
Natalie (or Nathalie, however they spell it down here) came over. Had a drink and then went to the room. Handed over my locker key to her and she was back 5 minutes later. A great performance but not Ingrid or Jamile (who Ingrid told me is no longer there).
Back in the boite. Still had time before I needed to meet a friend. Natasha was looking lonely. She clearly had not been with anyone all night long and I was wondering why. She looked good. So I called her over and it was almost as if she switched on another personality because I couldn't believe how outgoing she was. Two drinks later, we're heading for the room. Again, hand over the locker key and she goes and does whatever it is they do in that room for 5 or 10 minutes. Natasha was awesome.
It was like 8. 30 and I went into the locker room to make a call to my friend to see what time we were going to meet up. 9. 45 (or so, you know how Brazilians are with time). Just used my phone, didn't check my wallet at that time. Headed back into the boite and thought about a third session. Was thinking to myself that I had the cash so why not. Sat and had 2 beers and decided enough was enough so got cleaned up around 915.
Back in the locker room and went to look in my wallet and that's when I noticed the 3x R$100 notes were missing. Now, I'm not going to point the finger at the attendant in the locker room. The only people who had that locker room key were Natalie and Natasha. I've been trying to figure out how they could have done it. As far as I know, that little room they go into doesn't connect to the locker room. I can't see how it could have been done, but it was. I don't know how and will never know how.
It's never happened to me before (I know I have a low posting rate, call me one of those people who only post things when the bad happens). I've had so many good experiences in L'Uomo that I can't believe this happened.
Now, when I told them at the front, they told me this was impossible. Kept saying impossible. I told them that I wanted to see the girls. No. I asked for a R$100 discount off my bill. No. I thought that was reasonable. Kept refusing. Kept saying it was my fault that I should have taken my money into the bar with me. Yet, I remember the first time I was in L'Uomo (about a year ago), the very same woman who just told me that, saw me in the locker room about to go into the boite with my wallet tucked into the robe pocket to leave money in the locker because it is safer there. Whatever. I knew I was getting nowhere with them.
I paid. I walked out. And will not be returning. It pains me to say it. Will I ever leave money in a termas locker room ever again? No. Lesson learned. Thankfully it was only R$300. I can't figure out why the thief didn't take the rest of the cash or the credit cards but whatever. Maybe thief didn't think I'd notice.
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[QUOTE=Trafukin]You never know with these girls but don't know if that's true. I also saw and talked to her in Dec\Jan.[/QUOTE]
I can't swear that this is true -- I got this from one of the other girls. But I know her pretty well so I tend to believe it. No reason to lie.
Also, it seemed to fit. When she first came back, she didn't look so good (I know that is hard to believe, but true in my opinion). Sort of like she hadn't been taking care of herself, kind of puffy in the face, hair not done so well. I don't know, but I remember wondering what was going on. Then, I saw her a few weeks (or a month) later and she looked great, back to her old self. So, one night I asked a friend there and that is what se told me, in kind of a sad way. Sort of like, she had escaped the life, but not really, she had come back.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I think I speak for about 1000 guys who have been to L'uomo 100s of times. I have never heard of anyone missing anything. Ever. Unless they have had some recent personnel changes, the women working the locker room are not people I would accuse of thievery.[/QUOTE]
No doubt. I want to know where the wallet was. You keep the key, so how were they supposed to steal money from it? Have a duplicate key, just for that locker, wait till nobody is there and then steal money from it and then put it back? Come on ... most likely he miscounted, left the money in his hotel, got drunk and spent it or whatever. I'd believe just about anything other than the ladies in the locker room stole it. Ridiculous.
No offense Thong, I am sure we have all looked in our pockets and found less than we were expecting, but in this case, I would think long and hard about that before accusing one of the upper tier termas of having it stolen.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I think I speak for about 1000 guys who have been to L'uomo 100s of times. I have never heard of anyone missing anything. Ever. Unless they have had some recent personnel changes, the women working the locker room are not people I would accuse of thievery.[/QUOTE]Here's the thing. I've found this board so useful for information, that when it happened I felt I needed to post something. I find it hard to even believe it happened to me because I've had so many good experiences at L'Uomo myself.
It definitely happened at L'Uomo and I'll tell you why. Went to Citibank on Visconde de Piraja around 4:30pm on Sunday afternoon and took out R$500. I already had R$450 in my wallet and figured I would have some insurance cash. What struck me was that I received 3 x R$100 notes. This was the first time I had ever gotten R$100 notes and thought to myself, oh these are going to be a pain to get rid of. So I thought I would use them at L'Uomo. Hopped into a taxi and got to L'Uomo about 8 minutes later. Paid taxi R$14 and saw the R$100 notes in my wallet when I had taken money out.
Into L'Uomo. Locker room attendant was a girl with curly hair. She was there the day before (Saturday) and I had given her a R$5 tip, which I thought was a decent one. I normally don't pay much attention to these girls, obviously because my focus is on what's through the door.
I had sessioned with Ingrid the day before. Ingrid's reputation precedes herself and it is well-deserved. Unfortunately, by the time I arrived she was already busy with someone else, although she did come over and say hello. Patricia then sat down next to me and started to do the usual kiss in the ear routine. I let that go on for about a minute or two but told her politely that I did not intend on sessioning with her and that I didn't want to waste her time (and mine too). She just didn't do it for me. Didn't seem to be any hard feelings either.
Natalie (or Nathalie, however they spell it down here) came over. Had a drink and then went to the room. Handed over my key ring to her and she was back 5 minutes later. A great performance but not Ingrid or Jamile (who Ingrid told me is no longer there).
Back in the boite. Still had time before I needed to meet a friend. Natasha was looking lonely. She clearly had not been with anyone all night long and I was wondering why. She looked good. So I called her over and it was almost as if she switched on another personality because I couldn't believe how outgoing she was. Two drinks later, we're heading for the room. Again, hand over the locker key and she goes and does whatever it is they do in that room for 5 or 10 minutes. Natasha was awesome.
It was like 8. 30 and I went into the locker room to make a call to my friend to see what time we were going to meet up. 9. 45 (or so, you know how Brazilians are with time). Just used my phone, didn't check my wallet at that time. Headed back into the boite and thought about a third session. Was thinking to myself that I had the cash so why not. Sat and had 2 beers and decided enough was enough so got cleaned up around 915.
Back in the locker room and went to look in my wallet and that's when I noticed the 3x R$100 notes were missing. Now, I'm not going to point the finger at the attendant in the locker room. The only people who had that locker room key were Natalie and Natasha. I've been trying to figure out how they could have done it. As far as I know, that little room they go into doesn't connect to the locker room. I can't see how it could have been done, but it was. I don't know how and will never know how.
It's never happened to me before (I know I have a low posting rate, call me one of those people who only post things when the bad happens). I've had so many good experiences in L'Uomo that I can't believe this happened. Been there five times in the past year, done the same thing each time, and this is the first time something has happened.
Now, when I told them at the front, they told me this was impossible. Kept saying impossible. I told them that I wanted to see the girls. No. I asked for a R$100 discount off my bill. No. I thought that was reasonable. Kept refusing. Kept saying it was my fault that I should have taken my money into the bar with me. Yet, I remember the first time I was in L'Uomo (about a year ago), the very same woman who just told me that, saw me in the locker room about to go into the boite with my wallet tucked into the robe pocket to leave money in the locker because it is safer there. Whatever. I knew I was getting nowhere with them.
I paid. I walked out. And will not be returning. It pains me to say it. Will I ever leave money in a termas locker room ever again? No. Lesson learned. Thankfully it was only R$300. I can't figure out why the thief didn't take the rest of the cash or the credit cards but whatever. Maybe thief didn't think I'd notice.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]I can't swear that this is true -- I got this from one of the other girls. But I know her pretty well so I tend to believe it. No reason to lie.
Also, it seemed to fit. When she first came back, she didn't look so good (I know that is hard to believe, but true in my opinion). Sort of like she hadn't been taking care of herself, kind of puffy in the face, hair not done so well. I don't know, but I remember wondering what was going on. Then, I saw her a few weeks (or a month) later and she looked great, back to her old self. So, one night I asked a friend there and that is what se told me, in kind of a sad way. Sort of like, she had escaped the life, but not really, she had come back.[/QUOTE]
I saw Ingrid about 4 weeks ago and she looked fanatastic!! If she really wanted to, she could get out of the life in a heartbeat, she must have about a dozen guys who want to marry her!
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Rio Today
I was talking to a young friend of mine the other day and he informed me that he has always wanted to go to Brazil. I told him that you only live once so he should head down there.
Then I started to think about it and on the one hand the prices are going up and given the flight time it may be better to go to a place like like Columbia.
Then again now that the prices have gone up one would assume that there are fewer people traveling to Rio which could also be a positive.
I am just not sure what to tell the guy. Should he at least travel to Brazil once and then explore other more cost friendly areas later? I myself really enjoy luomo and the terma experience.
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[QUOTE=Thong Diva]Koolkid:
In Rio myself. Did Ingrid last night around 5ish. OUTSTANDING. Also was in Melt, but went through kitchen door to the VIP. Wasn't waiting in the line.
Today went back to L'Uomo and sessioned with Nathalia and Natasha. Both good. Then I went to the locker area and noticed my wallet was missing 3x R$100 notes. Argued with the management but got nowhere. NOT GOING BACK EVER. And if I do I am bringing my cash into the boite and cabinas. F-ing Putas![/QUOTE]
Yes we also went through the kitchen door, a big black bouncer pulled us out the line and we went in that way.
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Ingrid
[QUOTE=Bravo]I saw Ingrid about 4 weeks ago and she looked fanatastic!! If she really wanted to, she could get out of the life in a heartbeat, she must have about a dozen guys who want to marry her![/QUOTE]
I must say, I thought she looked pretty tired that night, not alot of make up. But she has a natural beauty about her. So if she got some sleep, and maybe left the lifestyle she would be smokin, and with her sexual skills, yeah she would be snapped up like that!
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[QUOTE=Thong Diva]Koolkid:
I went to the locker area and noticed my wallet was missing 3x R$100 notes. Argued with the management but got nowhere. NOT GOING BACK EVER. And if I do I am bringing my cash into the boite and cabinas. F-ing Putas![/QUOTE]
JUST STOP!
The only other access to the locks is via master key from the manager. Only time I ever heard of theft are those that placed valuables in their robes. They will fire and or beat the shit out of an employee caught stealing. Your valuables are safer there than in your hotel and sometimes the hotel safe in your room.
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[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]JUST STOP! The only other access to the locks is via master key from the manager. Only time I ever heard of theft are those that placed valuables in their robes. They will fire and or beat the shit out of an employee caught stealing. Your valuables are safer there than in your hotel and sometimes the hotel safe in your room.[/QUOTE]really? How can you be so sure do you work there. Things happen so for you to jump up and no makes no sense. Thats what this board is for to give intel. Are you calling this guy a liar?
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Copa Casas
Are there any 1-2 real a min places in copa? Can't be assed to go to centro today and was wondering if there was anything here.
Thanks
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Anything is possible, BUT....
Of the larger termas such as 4 x 4, Luomos, Solarium, Cent., MC etc., I have never experienced or heard of anything regarding stealing from a locker. Specifically, a locker. I have been visiting termas for over 6 years.
If word got out that such things were taking place, that would hurt business in a bad way. So for there own sake, it is best to keep that kind of scenario from occuring.
Anything is possible, but I highly doubt that the money was stolen from the locker itself. As someone suggested earlier, maybe you miscounted, dropped or misplaced the $.
P.S. Hope you find it, and partake in another session with those 300 R. If not, I hope I find them when I get there in a couple of weeks : )
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[QUOTE=Thong Diva]Koolkid:...
Today went back to L'Uomo and sessioned with Nathalia and Natasha. Both good. Then I went to the locker area and noticed my wallet was missing 3x R$100 notes. Argued with the management but got nowhere. NOT GOING BACK EVER. And if I do I am bringing my cash into the boite and cabinas. F-ing Putas![/QUOTE]
Thong, could you please clarify this. Since you state you were missing 3 x R$100, does this mean there were more notes in your wallet? Were there any notes of smaller denimination than R$100? Was the locker still locked when you returned from your session? Did you have your key with you at all times? Sessioning with two garotas, you would have incurred a tab of more than R$300,00. Did you pay your tab with notes or credit card?
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[QUOTE=Bravo]I saw Ingrid about 4 weeks ago and she looked fanatastic!! If she really wanted to, she could get out of the life in a heartbeat, she must have about a dozen guys who want to marry her![/QUOTE]
Does anyone have any pics of the famous Ingrid?
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[QUOTE=Bizzie]Does anyone have any pics of the famous Ingrid?[/QUOTE]
Try a search in the Photo Gallery section. Or if you're really in a hurry, click this link:
[post]888621[/post]
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how to survive dirty casas: equipment list ...
[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]Your pay-per-minute-girl may not provide you with a rushed service but the circumstances in the casa are such that YOU try to get out the fastest way you can.
Usually these places are the lowest and dirtiest casas you can inmagine.
I tried it two times: the fist and the last time.
Avoid
Carlos[/QUOTE]
I see problems, I find a solution. Problem solved. In this case, I go to these Casas fully equipped:
big towels to put onto the bed (and I plan to upgrade to fitted single bedsheets as a major improvement)
Another towel to dry off. I ALWAYS take a shower afterwards, sometimes even before too. A third towel if the second towel gets too wet after 3-4 girls.
Havaiana slippers to take showers without having to step onto that floor. And to easily slip in and out off when going onto the bed and back onto the floor.
People laugh about that, but it solves most of the problems. Most girls take plenty of showers. Unfortunately this does not work in Vila Mimosa, as most don't let you take showers. One reason why I don't go there.
I find girls in the cheap casas that are better then anything I find in major termas. For me, 18 year old fresh girls with no babies are the best. You rarely find this in major termas.
Also, there is a mid level quality that often is VERY clean: the massage parlors like belprazer, flaviamassagens, duda massagens etc. There you usually get CLEAN rooms, like the high priced special suite in a termas, better then the basic R$ 350 rooms in a normal terma
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]The story is she married a gringo which is why she disappeared for a while. Then it fell apart so she is back but not regularly.
Don't remember Laura. What did she look like?[/QUOTE]Laura was toned black chick that wore flattened extensions. She seemed pretty cool. She had an ugly tattoo on her leg. Betty boop or some shit like that.
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[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]I see problems, I find a solution. Problem solved. In this case, I go to these Casas fully equipped:
big towels to put onto the bed (and I plan to upgrade to fitted single bedsheets as a major improvement)
Another towel to dry off. I ALWAYS take a shower afterwards, sometimes even before too. A third towel if the second towel gets too wet after 3-4 girls.
Havaiana slippers to take showers without having to step onto that floor. And to easily slip in and out off when going onto the bed and back onto the floor.
People laugh about that, but it solves most of the problems. Most girls take plenty of showers. Unfortunately this does not work in Vila Mimosa, as most don't let you take showers. One reason why I don't go there.
I find girls in the cheap casas that are better then anything I find in major termas. For me, 18 year old fresh girls with no babies are the best. You rarely find this in major termas.
Also, there is a mid level quality that often is VERY clean: the massage parlors like belprazer, flaviamassagens, duda massagens etc. There you usually get CLEAN rooms, like the high priced special suite in a termas, better then the basic R$ 350 rooms in a normal terma[/QUOTE]And then lug around wet towels, dirty stanky towels and sheets, and wet flipflops. Just what I want to be doing.
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[QUOTE=Thong Diva] Thankfully it was only R$300. I can't figure out why the thief didn't take the rest of the cash or the credit cards but whatever. Maybe thief didn't think I'd notice.[/QUOTE]Unless you are 100% certain that the money was taken from you (and not dropped or spent by you elsewhere) you should not be posting this here. Never, ever heard of such a situation in any termas I had been in. (Luomo, Monte Carlo, Centaurus, 4x4, Cancun). Everyone here knows you need to be careful with $. But accusing someone of stealing is a serious matter. And then asking for a $100 discount off the bill. Something doesn't seem right about that to me. Why not ask for a freebie. The full $300. Or better yet, ask to have the police come so you can report it.
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3 days, R$1000 in Rio
My lady went back to visit her family here and I had a business trip to Rio. So I wanted to see if Rio has become as expensive as everyone is writing about. I haven´t mongered solo since hooking up with my lady - but she was all for it and hoped I´d find a few nice ladies to share together next time we both hit Rio.
My challenge to myself - spend only $R1000.
Bus to and from Rio: R$100
2 nights at Ibis Centro: R$300
Breakfast, snacks, beers (3 days): R$125
Dinners: work entertainment expense
BelPrazer: 2 mornings: R$160 (40 minutes each)
Escorts: ScortShow & Ju Panteras: R$320 (including a 13 hour all-nighter, and a freebie the next night (Friday) as she took me dancing and then stayed over in the hotel again rather then go home to Niteroi. She did work on Saturday)
Termas: 4x4: 40 minutes, free entrance, R$250
Would have made it but I had to have at least one termas experience while there. But still inexpensive considering the amount of great sex I had with 5 different ladies. And I did not have to go far from my hotel or visit shit infested cabines. And I have to say the termas visit was the least pleasurable. Learn Porto.
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First visit to Rio
Hello fellow members,
I'm staying at the Intercontinental Rio, Av. Aquarela do Brazil, 75. I want to try Karlamodels or sister site.
Which is closer to my hotel.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]MT has better pricing, R135 for a hora dupla. I see from GPGuia that they have a couple of alleged completas there and my flight comes in well before hotel check-in time...hmm..I think I'll pull a Hughdad and arrive at the casa straight from GIG without even dropping my piece of luggage first. ;) This could be rough, both for me because the long flight and for the garotas who will be getting a cu workout so early in their day. We will see.[/QUOTE]PP, Ibis will hold your bags for you before check-in. They are very accomodating there. But you can indeed also drag a bag along to BelPrazer. (The mamasan got a kick outta that.) Pull out a body of Victoria's Secret lotion from it and you will get the deluxe treatment. Man, they go crazy for that stuff and it isn't even premium grade. Got a free second night of great GFE for a few $8 bottles of lotion and a few $4 lip glosses.
Saturdays at BelPrazer are really great. Lots of ladies working - from 10 to 3. I went around 11:30 and it seemed many girls were still getting themselves together. Juliana is a nice mulata young lady. Small breasts but a super tight bubble butt. Sweetheart - but a real tiger. (BelPrazer is now also running 181 RB, Sala 801 according to the mamasan. A few of the girls at 185 RB, Sala 2114 on Saturday were from there.)
I spent 3 entire days in Centro and only made it the Ipanema for dinner. No Copa mongering whatsoever. Balcony sounds like such a hassle. My command of Porto has gotten to the point where I really can get by great in Centro, and connect with the ladies and share true laughs. This helped get me some all-nighters. Lapa is nutsy fun.
I'm back in Rio June 10 myself. Cheers
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L'Uomo Locker Room Theft
Back in the US after a great weekend in Rio. At the end of the day, it was only R$300 stolen and I can say it won't break the bank. But, what concerns me is that what could have happened. My credit cards could have been stolen (at least the ones that were in the wallet. Others were in the hotel safe), ID, and ALL my cash. What gets me is that there was JUST enough to cover my two sessions and drinks, with just a touch leftover. It's as if the thief knew my total tab.
Here's my question, as far as my past experiences and from what I can see in the waiting/holding room, we all hand over our locker room keys to the girls for that five to ten minute time period when they do whatever it is back in that room. They give them back when they come back out. So, the question is, should I be taking the actual key off the keyring?
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L'uomo
Let's put all this stuff about thefts at L'uomo to rest once and for all. I can attest from my own personal experience why I believe such a thing isn't possible.
The very first time I came to L'uomo was in August of 2000 (my God, that's 10 years ago!). After I had gone into the locker room and changed into the robe, I apparently did not lock it appropriately, although I didn't discover this until later. I went to the boite, sessioned with two girls in a row for an hour each, and took my own sweet time between the girls. I finally returned to the locker room after several hours to get ready to leave. When I got there, I was shocked to see that my locker was wide open. The attendant came up to me and said that I hadn't locked it correctly, so she had taken all of my stuff, including clothes, underwear, shoes, Rolex watch (which I had stuffed into a shoe), and my money pouch and had put everything into another locker, locked it, and kept the key until I got back so it would be safe. Of course, she said I would have to keep the original key to cash out. Needless to say, I was very grateful and gave her a nice tip. Ever since then, after I turn the key in the lock I give the door a tug to make sure it is locked.
I am relating this story just to illustrate the level of honesty in the locker room. If somebody had stolen something, as another customer easily could have, it would have been my own fault, so this nice lady saved my ass. I have never forgotten that. This is why L'uomo has a special place in my esteem and remains my favorite termas. As for the garotas having the key for a few minutes, so you think for a minute that these attendants would let these girls anywhere near a locker? Absurd. Can you imagine what would happen to a termas' reputation, and business, if this practice became common. You and your belongings are perfectly safe at L'uomo and probably any other high end termas.
L
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Unless you are 100% certain that the money was taken from you (and not dropped or spent by you elsewhere) you should not be posting this here. Never, ever heard of such a situation in any termas I had been in. (Luomo, Monte Carlo, Centaurus, 4x4, Cancun). Everyone here knows you need to be careful with $. But accusing someone of stealing is a serious matter. And then asking for a $100 discount off the bill. Something doesn't seem right about that to me. Why not ask for a freebie. The full $300. Or better yet, ask to have the police come so you can report it.[/QUOTE]I am 100% certain it was stolen. I have absolutely no doubts about it whatsoever. Like I said, Citibank on Visc. De Piraja gave me R$500. 4x R$50 notes and 3x R$100 notes. I proceeded immediately to L'Uomo via taxi and the money was in my wallet when I got out of the taxi. So unless a VERY good pickpocket managed to get my wallet out of my backside, open it, grab the notes, and put it back in, I have absolutely no qualms about making the accusation that the cash was stolen from my locker.
At first I declined to pay. Then the manager was going to call the police for non-payment. I then asked to see the girls. They refused. That's when I said, let's make a deal here. I started at R$300 discount. No. How about less? I kept going down, ultimately R$100. This was going nowhere. They kept saying it was impossible. Well, it was possible. Feel free not to believe me, but it happened. I wasn't drunk, I wasn't careless, I was robbed. Flat out robbed. Then I paid. I just said to hell with it. There are other termas in this town, and quite frankly, with Jamile no longer there I have no need to go there. What good would calling the police do? We're talking about R$300 here. I'm the gringo who speaks only basic Porto. Wasn't worth my time. Doesn't mean, I can't post my experience here so others can proceed with caution. You take it for what it's worth. If you want to believe me, fine. If you don't want to believe me, fine. It's your money. Just my advice to me more cautious going in here.
In hindsight, what I should have done was put the entry and drinks on the credit card and then disputed the charge. Unfortunately, in the heat of the moment I wasn't thinking.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Let's put all this stuff about thefts at L'uomo to rest once and for all. I can attest from my own personal experience why I believe such a thing isn't possible.L[/QUOTE]Lorenzo, you're pretty much calling me a liar. We aren't going to get to the bottom of this here. You don't know me. I don't know you. Take it for what it's worth, it happened. You can say it didn't happen or you don't believe it happened, but I'm telling you it happened. I can't even believe I'm telling this story either, but I have no doubts.
I'm not telling you not to go to L'Uomo. What I am saying, is that maybe you should exercise even more caution than you currently do. That's all. This is Brazil we're talking about.
And, let's face it, if you've been to an FKK in Germany like Artemis or Palace, the level of security can't be compared. At Palace there are separate cash storage lockers in the main entry area, a separate safe in your locker and then the locker itself. You can't compare the security. You key is never out of your hand.
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Just a warning
I will delete this post later, but I have learned something about losing money in Rio:
I have lost money twice when in Rio. Once I lost the money to pay my driver on the way to the airport and had to pay him the next time down. (I know now I probably left it in the apartment or in a pharmacy.)
In both instances i suspected foul play. But in both instances there was another commonality: I kept looking for and handling the money repeatedly before it turned up missing.
I noticed the same thing in the recent post about Luomo. The poster kept saying he looked at the 3 100R notes when he was doing other things. This might be a sign that he lost them. When you focus on something it can cause you to subconsciously do things you did not mean to do.
In my cases, i kept moving my reais from pants pocket to shirt pocket, to keep it "safe" so I would have it for the driver.
And guess, what, I probably took it out and set it down in a pharmacy or on the table as i was checking out of the apartment.
It is best, at times, to just put money away securely and leave it there. Every time you handle the money presents a chance for loss.
Add alcohol to the mix and.....
SS
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B.S. Cheap Casas
Hi B.S. - equipped like you comming to the cheap casas - that is certainly ok and you can survive there without any problem.
Personally I do not like to run around with a bag filled with a bed-spread, 3 towells, havaianas etc. I usually go to the good casas in R.B. where I get everything, a clean room and bed, towells and immaculate clean pussies. But each to his own.
Continue your reporting - the Forum benefits from it.
Carlos
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[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]
Another towel to dry off. I ALWAYS take a shower afterwards, sometimes even before too. A third towel if the second towel gets too wet after 3-4 girls.
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Do they have showers there at Casarao and U24, by any chance? These places were dives and I never sessioned there cause I figured that they didn't have a shower...and what about U210?
NS Copa 583 sala 204 did not appear to have showers, even for the girls! Stanky. 1 session there and it sent me running to L'uomo where the Y smells of soap and latex, not the day's catch. :)
Speaking of the lavatory, one day in Centro I sessioned on RB simply cause I couldn't find anyplace to go to the bathroom, not even in in the metro station... that was before I found the bathroom upstairs at the McDonalds nearby, I think it was on Vargas. :) Tough city to take a leak in.
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Showers for you and her?
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Do they have showers there at Casarao and U24, by any chance? These places were dives and I never sessioned there cause I figured that they didn't have a shower...and what about U210? [/QUOTE]
R$ 1/min casas like BA85, U24, Carioca 59, VM etc all have showers. That is showers for the girls working at the casas. The customers are not meant to use the showers (unlike the "upscale" Rio Branco casas).
I had showers at all of these places. I've been offered clean towels, dirty towels or no towels at all (using my shirt as a towel). The standard of the bathrooms varies a lot. BA85 bathrooms are decent. VM and Carioca bathrooms are nasty. However in some situations, like when you are having a date right after your session, a shower is just necessary no matter how the bathroom looks like.
Regarding the cleanliness of the girls. In the RB casas the girls shower after every client. At the R$ 1/min casas and VM the cleanliness varies. Not all the girls showers after each client. That's one of the reasons I prefer early visits to be the first customer of the day.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Let's put all this stuff about thefts at L'uomo to rest once and for all. I can attest from my own personal experience why I believe such a thing isn't possible.
The very first time I came to L'uomo was in August of 2000 (my God, that's 10 years ago!). After I had gone into the locker room and changed into the robe, I apparently did not lock it appropriately, although I didn't discover this until later. I went to the boite, sessioned with two girls in a row for an hour each, and took my own sweet time between the girls. I finally returned to the locker room after several hours to get ready to leave. When I got there, I was shocked to see that my locker was wide open. The attendant came up to me and said that I hadn't locked it correctly, so she had taken all of my stuff, including clothes, underwear, shoes, Rolex watch (which I had stuffed into a shoe), and my money pouch and had put everything into another locker, locked it, and kept the key until I got back so it would be safe. Of course, she said I would have to keep the original key to cash out. Needless to say, I was very grateful and gave her a nice tip. Ever since then, after I turn the key in the lock I give the door a tug to make sure it is locked.
I am relating this story just to illustrate the level of honesty in the locker room. If somebody had stolen something, as another customer easily could have, it would have been my own fault, so this nice lady saved my ass. I have never forgotten that. This is why L'uomo has a special place in my esteem and remains my favorite termas. As for the garotas having the key for a few minutes, so you think for a minute that these attendants would let these girls anywhere near a locker? Absurd. Can you imagine what would happen to a termas' reputation, and business, if this practice became common. You and your belongings are perfectly safe at L'uomo and probably any other high end termas.
L[/QUOTE]Would be nice if this were true, but unrealistic. At this level of society it is hit and miss whether or not your stuff would go missing from the locker. Depends who else is watching. The thing with opportunists they don't trust each other.
So many mongers like to build this mom and pop fantasy in their heads about how the termas is managed. Makes the sessions more realistic, feels a little less like whatring. This is not the first time stuff has gone missing from a termas locker. I've never had stuff go missing from a locker, but have had my bill padded a few time at L'oumo. This still comes under the label of stealing in my book. Always better to remember that you are just another john and the object of the game is to get as much money from you as possible.
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Ingrid is one in a million
[QUOTE=Bizzie]Does anyone have any pics of the famous Ingrid?[/QUOTE]
Ingrid is the only woman I have ever described this way. She is not necessarily a pretty women, but she is incredibly sexy!! I have never said that before, but its a perfect description of Ingrid.
I know a number of guys who have seen her picture and go "She is alright looking, nothing special. I expected alot more from the way guys talk about her." But if you meet Ingrid in person, its something about her that makes you say damn, she is sexy as hell and she just oozes sensuality!!! (I dont know if she gives off phermones or what it is! LOL)
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[QUOTE=Thong Diva]Lorenzo, you're pretty much calling me a liar. We aren't going to get to the bottom of this here. You don't know me. I don't know you. Take it for what it's worth, it happened. You can say it didn't happen or you don't believe it happened, but I'm telling you it happened. I can't even believe I'm telling this story either, but I have no doubts.
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I don't know you either. And I have nothing against you. But Lorenzo's version makes a lot more sense.
Sometimes, and this has happened to me, you're absoluteley certain that you counted the money and you're... mistaken.
That makes more sense than the owners of the place compromising their prestige to gain a few reais.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo] Can you imagine what would happen to a termas' reputation, and business, if this practice became common.
L[/QUOTE]
If this practice became common it would completely ruin their business but if it happened once in a blue moon then no one would believe it.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]
Speaking of the lavatory, one day in Centro I sessioned on RB simply cause I couldn't find anyplace to go to the bathroom, not even in in the metro station... that was before I found the bathroom upstairs at the McDonalds nearby, I think it was on Vargas. :) Tough city to take a leak in.[/QUOTE]
Very true, I found a subway sandwich place and they had toilets so I used them.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Ingrid is the only woman I have ever described this way. She is not necessarily a pretty women, but she is incredibly sexy!! I have never said that before, but its a perfect description of Ingrid.
I know a number of guys who have seen her picture and go "She is alright looking, nothing special. I expected alot more from the way guys talk about her." But if you meet Ingrid in person, its something about her that makes you say damn, she is sexy as hell and she just oozes sensuality!!! (I dont know if she gives off phermones or what it is! LOL)[/QUOTE]
Speaking for myself it's the way she moves, specifically her dance skills. I suppose we are beating this topic to death, aren't we? (Bad pun intended.)
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1 in a million, really?
[QUOTE=Bravo]Ingrid is the only woman I have ever described this way. She is not necessarily a pretty women, but she is incredibly sexy! I have never said that before, but its a perfect description of Ingrid.
I know a number of guys who have seen her picture and go "She is alright looking, nothing special. I expected alot more from the way guys talk about her. " But if you meet Ingrid in person, its something about her that makes you say damn, she is sexy as hell and she just oozes sensuality! (I don't know if she gives off phermones or what it is! LOL)[/QUOTE]She is merely one woman in a sea of a million sexy, sensual ladies. I met her and was left with the impression. What is so special about her? Unless her pussy spits out Benjamins while I am fucking her than there can't be anything that special to make me as gaga as so many here are over her. Not with so many lovely exotic ladies there. And my pretty good sense of picking winners. Don't put the haynanny up on that pedestol. I think there is a bit of legend worship going on. But hey the Stones aren't the same old Stones anymore either.
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Knock it off already
[QUOTE=Thong Diva]I am 100% certain it was stolen. I have absolutely no doubts about it whatsoever. Like I said, Citibank on Visc. De Piraja gave me R$500. 4x R$50 notes and 3x R$100 notes. I proceeded immediately to L'Uomo via taxi and the money was in my wallet when I got out of the taxi. So unless a VERY good pickpocket managed to get my wallet out of my backside, open it, grab the notes, and put it back in, I have absolutely no qualms about making the accusation that the cash was stolen from my locker.
At first I declined to pay. Then the manager was going to call the police for non-payment. I then asked to see the girls. They refused. That's when I said, let's make a deal here. I started at R$300 discount. No. How about less? I kept going down, ultimately R$100. This was going nowhere. They kept saying it was impossible. Well, it was possible. Feel free not to believe me, but it happened. I wasn't drunk, I wasn't careless, I was robbed. Flat out robbed. Then I paid. I just said to hell with it. There are other termas in this town, and quite frankly, with Jamile no longer there I have no need to go there. What good would calling the police do? We're talking about R$300 here. I'm the gringo who speaks only basic Porto. Wasn't worth my time. Doesn't mean, I can't post my experience here so others can proceed with caution. You take it for what it's worth. If you want to believe me, fine. If you don't want to believe me, fine. It's your money. Just my advice to me more cautious going in here.
In hindsight, what I should have done was put the entry and drinks on the credit card and then disputed the charge. Unfortunately, in the heat of the moment I wasn't thinking.[/QUOTE]Unless you saw it happen, you are not 100% certain of jack. And, of course they won't bring in the girls to face your accusations. They don't go into the men's locker. In hindsight, you shouldn't have kept fumbling around with your dineiro. More like, in the heat of the moment of going to Luomo and getting all worked up you fumbled around with the $.
You should have let the manager call the police like he wanted to if you were so certain of being right. The reason you didn't has nothing to do with your limited Porto, it has to do with your limited certainty. And if it wasn't worth your time then stop taking up some much of our time here with your unsubstantiated claim.
Now, we all here will give you one chance to admit you are not sure what happened to your lousy $300. Go ahead. And, guess what, you'll be back at Luomo. You will.
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[quote=puta playa]do they have showers there at casarao and u24, by any chance? these places were dives and i never sessioned there cause i figured that they didn't have a shower. and what about u210?
ns copa 583 sala 204 did not appear to have showers, even for the girls! stanky. 1 session there and it sent me running to l'uomo where the y smells of soap and latex, not the day's catch.
speaking of the lavatory, one day in centro i sessioned on rb simply cause i couldn't find anyplace to go to the bathroom, not even in in the metro station. that was before i found the bathroom upstairs at the mcdonalds nearby, i think it was on vargas. tough city to take a leak in.[/quote]tough? only when you don't do it the brazilian way. strolling on any street anywhere in brazil hasn't the whiff of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] at some point hit you like a wall? and proprietors always scrubbing and bleaching their sidewalks. what's that for? the street is the public urinal. can't go into some of these cheap privies unless you intend to throw away your clothes afterwards. the reek clings. but, if they're your style, the only thing you need is a little of the anti-bacterial alcohol/glycerin hand cleaner. rub some on your date best you can where it can do the most good.
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[QUOTE=Fred100] Always better to remember that you are just another john and the object of the game is to get as much money from you as possible.[/QUOTE]Well said Fred. At the end of the day, you're dealing with hookers. Hookers who send us e-mails at Christmas asking us for money because of some sorry excuse they've concocted in their heads. These girls are hunting for money. I put nothing past them.
HUGHDAD: I'm done with making my point. If you happen to be missing some money on your next trip to L'Uomo, don't say you weren't warned. And I will not be back to L'Uomo, I can tell you that.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Do they have showers there at Casarao
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yes, of course. Several
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]
and U24,
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Uruguaiana 24, of course. I took plenty of showers there. In the midst of girls taking showers. On every floor there is a shower
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]
by any chance? These places were dives and I never sessioned there cause I figured that they didn't have a shower...
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Don't figure. Check. How many apartments or suites do you find in Rio that don't have showers?
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]
and what about U210?
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not sure but I BET they have a shower. Do you think they have a toilet? In most cases, shower and toilet go together
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]
NS Copa 583 sala 204 did not appear to have showers, even for the girls!
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I have taken showers there for at least 10 years. You can't miss it, the door is almost always open. Great place to see the girls naked. Or just watch the girls, where they go to.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]
Stanky. 1 session there and it sent me running to L'uomo where the Y smells of soap and latex, not the day's catch. :)
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I got most of your abbreviations, but to the uninitiated the abbreviations might be puzzling
Most places don't give you problems if you ask about taking a shower.
Even more because I have my own towel.
Occasionally, when there is trouble, I explain them, no shower, no program. I talk straight to the boss.That leaves about 3% of the places where I cannot take a shower. Even then, I get a half gallon Coke bottle with water to rinse down, or a bucket with a cup in it, with or at least a faucet to wash the dick.
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Abbreviations
[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]
I got most of your abbreviations, but to the uninitiated the abbreviations might be puzzling
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Sorry bout that, I have pulled together a little lexicon of things that get used here.
RB - Avenida Rio Branco
BA - Rua Buenos Aires
VM- Vila Mimosa
U24, U210- Rua Uruguania sex house addresses
SC- São Cristóvão subway station or Siqueria Campos station
NS Copa- Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana
MC - Termas Monte Carlo
4x4 - Termas Quatro por Quatro on Rua Buenos Aires, 44
502 - Termas on Rua da Alfândega, 65
Thanks for the confirmation on lower end showers, I like to come into the session immaculate so there's no excuse for not getting a good cat bath and an immaculate conception. Too bad Brasileiras haven't discovered the art of soapy massage.
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Thong Diva
If you are a 100% sure that your money was stolen at L'uomo. I would be more inclined to suspect one of the johns. The locks on the lockers are not very secure. I've been in that locker room many times and there's been no attendant.
It always amuses me when I see the regular "sex tourists" treating the termas management like long lost brothers. I think the *****house must play a big part in many of these guys lives. I would play this game as well, if the slippery pimp would buy a round of drinks every now and then. We know that's not going to happen.
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[QUOTE=Fred100]So many mongers like to build this mom and pop fantasy in their heads about how the termas is managed. Makes the sessions more realistic, feels a little less like whatring. This is not the first time stuff has gone missing from a termas locker. I've never had stuff go missing from a locker, but have had my bill padded a few time at L'oumo. This still comes under the label of stealing in my book. Always better to remember that you are just another john and the object of the game is to get as much money from you as possible.[/QUOTE]If you haven't experienced it than how can you say it's not the first time stuff has gone missing from a locker. And I don't think anyone here is thinking termas are mom and pop businesses. Quite the contrary.
Having a bill padded is a different matter entirely. That has been discussed here ad nauseum from restaurants, hotels, bars, termas, etc. It is up to you to review the bill before you settle it. Can be intentional or not. I've had it happen everywhere in the world - but actually never personally in Rio. On a side note: I have noticed Brazilian men love to dispute any bill they get. Makes hotel check-out time in Centro a real drag. That and the fact that Brazilians don't know the meaning of waiting in line. I had a guy almost attack me yesterday at the mini-market when I made him go to the back of the line. I politely told him that I would be glad to teach him some social skills outside and he apologized and left. Everyone has the idea that Brazilians are happy all the time - when in fact many are mostly miserable.
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[QUOTE=Thong Diva] At the end of the day, you're dealing with hookers. Hookers who send us e-mails at Christmas asking us for money because of some sorry excuse they've concocted in their heads. These girls are hunting for money. [/QUOTE]Really? I thought they were promoting tourism. Thanks for the heads-up. Hopefully, a few hookers were "hunting" for your R$300 in the back seat of that taxi you were fumbling your bankroll in. Christmas might have come early.
And maybe a small % send those emails. I wouldn't know I am not interested in pen pals and am selective on who I correspond with.
I just thought of that Elmer Fudd cartonn: "Quiet, we're hunting wabbits"
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L'uomo Missing money
Let me play Devil's Advocate.
I have heard in the past that in Centaurus a couple of gentleman tried their locker keys in various lockers and many were opened.
Upon complaining to the management soon the lockers locks were changed.
Now this being said.
It would not be too difficult for a thief to pick one of the cheap locks used in most termas while the attendant was distracted.
I agree that a termas employee would not dare risk his or her job or risk bringing a bad reputation upon his or her place of employment.
But there is a possibility that the thief was another customer.
Just an idea.
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Arriving today in Rio
Hello you all,
I am arriving today in Rio coming from Sao Paulo. I had revieced some quick and nice information in the Sao Paulo thread on how to relax in the evenings after a hard day of work.
It is my first visit to Rio and I am staying until Sunday. I will be staying at the Merlin Hotel on Avenida Princesa Isabel.
I was looking for some action which does not kill my vallet as in Sao Paolo, the Clinicas where I was are not really cheaper then on mainland europe ;-)
Looking forward to any tips and places I could reach within walking distance if possible.
Chears,
Ecoquesz
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Centro casas and termas
What are the options for centro today with it being a holiday.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]What are the options for centro today with it being a holiday.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
BA85 was open last time I went on a holiday - hours roughly the same as there are people thronging about the Uruguiana market.
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hygiene obsessions and odds and ends
Yes U210 has showers. And you can get a towel. But, strangely, no soap. Go figure.
Anyway, I find this discussion on showers and where to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] slightly amusing. All of this from guys who generally demand bbbj. To each his own, but bbbj is more of a concern from the health perspective, in my book, than what you might pick up externally. Anyway to each his own. If there is a shower, I take it.
Ingrid, pictures don't do her justice. But, agree that there are a lot of others on the same or higher level.
Laura, I still draw a blank for L'uomo, but there is the famous Laura from MC who is still there. She started as a kid with braces, perfect cafe con leche and has grown up there. Now, a little thicker than I like. BTW, MC has a promotion going. Session before 18:00 and the entry is free. Millage is still going. Register with your email and finger print and after spending R700, entry is free. Not sure what the renewal situation is.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]
NS Copa 583 sala 204 did not appear to have showers, even for the girls! Stanky. 1 session there and it sent me running to L'uomo where the Y smells of soap and latex, not the day's catch. :)
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They have a shower (and a sink and a toilet) that is meant primarily for the girls. I asked to use it and was granted permission to do so.
[QUOTE=Sperto]R$ 1/min casas like BA85, U24, Carioca 59, VM etc all have showers. That is showers for the girls working at the casas. The customers are not meant to use the showers (unlike the "upscale" Rio Branco casas).
I had showers at all of these places. I've been offered clean towels, dirty towels or no towels at all (using my shirt as a towel). The standard of the bathrooms varies a lot. BA85 bathrooms are decent. VM and Carioca bathrooms are nasty. However in some situations, like when you are having a date right after your session, a shower is just necessary no matter how the bathroom looks like.
Regarding the cleanliness of the girls. In the RB casas the girls shower after every client. At the R$ 1/min casas and VM the cleanliness varies. Not all the girls showers after each client. That's one of the reasons I prefer early visits to be the first customer of the day.[/QUOTE]
I would assume that you would have to ask permission (as I did at NS 583 #204) to use the showers? Were you given a hard time for asking?
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill] BTW, MC has a promotion going. Session before 18:00 and the entry is free. Millage is still going. Register with your email and finger print and after spending R700, entry is free. Not sure what the renewal situation is.[/QUOTE]
One caveat that appears on MC's website is that the promoção to session before 6pm is Monday thru Friday only...
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]BA85 was open last time I went on a holiday - hours roughly the same as there are people thronging about the Uruguiana market.[/QUOTE]
just got back from centro and everything is closed, thanks anyways
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[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]I would assume that you would have to ask permission (as I did at NS 583 #204) to use the showers? Were you given a hard time for asking?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I asked permission.
No problems at all. They were just slightly surprised.
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[QUOTE=Fred100]Thong Diva
It always amuses me when I see the regular "sex tourists" treating the termas management like long lost brothers. I think the *****house must play a big part in many of these guys lives. I would play this game as well, if the slippery pimp would buy a round of drinks every now and then. We know that's not going to happen.[/QUOTE]I've gotten free entrance and free drinks from a termas manager because I have brought in a number of colleagues to his business. Not that I was looking for it - but he was standing there when we came in. Another time, I got several rounds after an amazing festa I had with 3 of his finest ladies. That was before the rash of rate hikes over the past year or so. It was also when I visited termas more frequently. I hardly go anymore. (What a great memory that festa was - 3 shades of mocha!)
Hasn't anyone else experienced getting a free drink or entrance (without a promotion)? Are things really that changed since a year or so ago?
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]What are the options for centro today with it being a holiday.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
CamaQuente has some very,very lovely gatas at very good prices! You will need good Portuguese skills.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]If you haven't experienced it than how can you say it's not the first time stuff has gone missing from a locker. And I don't think anyone here is thinking termas are mom and pop businesses. Quite the contrary.[/quote]Had a little experience in this area. First trip to Brazil 1973. I must confess I personally didn't visit L'oumo till sometime in the mid eighties (didn't like it much, didn't revisit again until mid nineties). Quite a few of my colleges and friends have been W***ing around Rio for more than 30 years. I live in Brazil. Never been a big fan of the ******house (visit occasionally), but the reprobates I work with take pleasure on filling me in on the details.
And yes have heard of stuff going missing at the ******house.
Mom and Pop:
You would be surprised at how many sad individuals come down for a few weeks every year and start spouting of about the special relationship they have with such and such ******house. The way they talk you would think Phillipe was a saint and Sandra was mother Theresa rescuing these poor girls from a life of poverty. Pimping is against the law in Brazil.
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[QUOTE=Fred100]Thong Diva
If you are a 100% sure that your money was stolen at L'uomo. I would be more inclined to suspect one of the johns. The locks on the lockers are not very secure. I've been in that locker room many times and there's been no attendant.
It always amuses me when I see the regular "sex tourists" treating the termas management like long lost brothers. I think the *****house must play a big part in many of these guys lives. I would play this game as well, if the slippery pimp would buy a round of drinks every now and then. We know that's not going to happen.[/QUOTE]Fred: I don't know you. But I like your way of thinking. OK, I'll buy that maybe a fellow monger ripped me off. I'm a lawyer, so I think like a lawyer. Who had access to the locker keys? Me, two hookers and the management (who has a master). Who is the likely suspect? For me, the girls. Yeah sure, they aren't allowed in the locker room. But I have been in that locker room without an attendant being present on more than one occasion. What's to stop a girl from going in, opening a locker with no on in there and taking money? Process of elimination. The likelihood of a fellow monger doing the same thing? OK, possible but chances are less likely.
All this crap about Hughdad thinking I'm in the back of taxi counting out hundreds and fifties is BS. I don't know where he got this idea considering I never said I was counting money in the back of a taxi. Now that would be pretty f-iing stupid.
You know what, it was R$300 at the end of the day. But, here's my deal with the management. You run a f-ing brothel. Your staff are hookers. Girls who have turned tricks on the street at some point in their "careers. " Don't get me wrong, some of these girls are outstanding and I love them. But, let's not lose focus on what we're dealing with at the end of the day. You're right, these sex tourists who walk into these places thinking that they're friends with management are delusional. This is a place of business. But, we're dealing with Brazil here. This is one of the most f-ed up countries I have ever visited and ever done business in.
Let's put this to bed and wait and see if anyone else complains about thefts in Rio. All I can say is that the management better make a trip to a German FKK. They could learn a lot about safety and security, not to mention learn how to run a business.
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Pricing strategies
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]CamaQuente has some very,very lovely gatas at very good prices! You will need good Portuguese skills.[/QUOTE]
Like the sister site, Hotside, there doesn't appear to be any pricing info on the site. For independents like this, does the website owner dictate some price range that the girls must negotiate within, or how does that work?
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[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]Hi B.S. - equipped like you comming to the cheap casas - that is certainly ok and you can survive there without any problem.
Personally I do not like to run around with a bag filled with a bed-spread, 3 towells, havaianas etc. I usually go to the good casas in R.B. where I get everything, a clean room and bed, towells and immaculate clean pussies. But each to his own.
Continue your reporting - the Forum benefits from it.
Carlos[/QUOTE]
you are right.
the Rio Branco and nearby casas are the place to go for most people. We need to spread the news that discrete good behavior is necessary so the casas don't get trouble from the neighbors
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Laura
[QUOTE=Sith Dude]Laura was toned black chick that wore flattened extensions. She seemed pretty cool. She had an ugly tattoo on her leg. Betty boop or some shit like that.[/QUOTE]
I knew Laura long before she started at L'Uomo. I like girls fresh!
She had an unreally flat stomach.
what are flattened extensions? small tits?
If I remember her true name I might find her phone number in my old notes .........
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www.camaquente.com.br
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]CamaQuente has some very,very lovely gatas at very good prices! You will need good Portuguese skills.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.camaquente.com.br[/url]
thanks for that hint, haven't known about that one
looks legit
lots of photos I have seen on other sites. They might be related to hotside.com.br
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private message privileges
I was going to invite you join me to my all day cheap brothel, today 10 am to 6 pm. No, not a professional tour, just having fun myself .......
typical expense 5 girls for R$ 250 total including taxi, beer, ...... If you are really cheap you can do it cheaper
But you can not receive private messages. I will work in Jackson's favor and encourage every newcomer to get a paid membership so they can be contacted.
If you send me a pm, I try to contact you, but that is probably too slow and too late ..........
[QUOTE=Ecoquest]Hello you all,
I am arriving today in Rio coming from Sao Paulo. I had revieced some quick and nice information in the Sao Paulo thread on how to relax in the evenings after a hard day of work.
It is my first visit to Rio and I am staying until Sunday. I will be staying at the Merlin Hotel on Avenida Princesa Isabel.
I was looking for some action which does not kill my vallet as in Sao Paolo, the Clinicas where I was are not really cheaper then on mainland europe ;-)
Looking forward to any tips and places I could reach within walking distance if possible.
Chears,
Ecoquesz[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Like the sister site, Hotside, there doesn't appear to be any pricing info on the site. For independents like this, does the website owner dictate some price range that the girls must negotiate within, or how does that work?[/QUOTE]
if it is a true independent web site, then they don't get involved at all in pricing issues, in order to remain totally legal.
They just provide an advertising service
Some of the girls are massage parlor workers, usually if they have incall
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Thong Diva(?) and Fred
All I have been saying is if you did not see something occur first hand than you have zero idea of what happened. Anything and everything is plausible and feasible (including dropping the $ somewhere.) Reasonable doubt there, lawyer guy. And same thing for colleagues and people saying they've been ripped off. Hell, I havd a colleague claim he was ripped off because he was drunk spent far more than he should have. I am sure it happens all the time. Partying and sexing it up with hookers is not the best money management seminar in the world after all.
[QUOTE=Thong Diva] But, here's my deal with the management. You run a f-ing brothel. Your staff are hookers. Girls who have turned tricks on the street at some point in their "careers. " Don't get me wrong, some of these girls are outstanding and I love them. But, let's not lose focus on what we're dealing with at the end of the day. [/QUOTE]And you are a john paying for a service that is illegal in Brazil. And you are in a profession that f's people all day long. What's your point?
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[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]I was going to invite you join me to my all day cheap brothel, today 10 am to 6 pm. No, not a professional tour, just having fun myself .......
typical expense 5 girls for R$ 250 total including taxi, beer, ...... If you are really cheap you can do it cheaper
But you can not receive private messages. I will work in Jackson's favor and encourage every newcomer to get a paid membership so they can be contacted.
If you send me a pm, I try to contact you, but that is probably too slow and too late ..........[/QUOTE]Hello, Specialist,
Thanks for the feedback and invite. I do have to work all day Friday until evening visting clients and maybe close a deal. I did find a pdf map in this thread on action in copacabana, so I spend the late afternoon and evening walking around and trying to get some oriention in copa. I did discover that I am in the middle of it staying at avenida princes isabel. Needless to say everything was closed including the termas monte cristo.
After the long walk in copa in did not have enough power to check out Luomo, just wend for a cold beer and some Frago. I guess I should be back tonight in my Hotel about 8pm and I have all day Saturday and half day Sunday. My flight back to Sao Paulo is about 6pm on Sunday. Sucks about the pm issue and phone numbers and emails get deleted I believe.
Nice offer from you and I would spend that for one nice day to have fun, maybe it works out.
Can you recommend anythink specific for Friday evening, I was going to check on the freelancers on the beach on Avenida Atlantica.
Chears,
Ecoquest
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[QUOTE=Fred100]You would be surprised at how many sad individuals come down for a few weeks every year and start spouting of about the special relationship they have with such and such ******house. The way they talk you would think Phillipe was a saint and Sandra was mother Theresa rescuing these poor girls from a life of poverty. Pimping is against the law in Brazil.[/QUOTE]I have seen some of those guys when I was going to termas more often. Those are the 2 week cowboys and life is the big party and everyone is their buddy. These are the lazy jokers that give gringos a bad name and make it more expensive for everyone. I am American and I am ashamed to say we have our share of those loud-mouthed jokers.
I think many of the guys on this forum have got it right. Handle everything as business, be on guard, be street smart, and don't let emotions get in involved in your dealings with the ladies. I see some post about their obsession over finding one lady they saw online or in a porno and I shake my head. Or flying in a "porn star" for 3 days. (I can tell you that there is no porn star that can do things any better than the lady I spent 2 full nights with in Centro last week for a total of R$250, 2 bottles of VS lotion, some beers and a cheap meal. Hell she even took me dancing and bought some beers and snacks.) My best experiences here have just occurred, some with pros that really are great people, and some with non-pros once I was able to communicate with them. If I was obsessing over chasing down a lady I would have missed these great experiences. I learned a great deal from the senior guys here and it helped me shape the basis of my thought processes here. So I don't think anyone here needs to be constantly reminded they are dealing with "hookers".
Like you, I live in Brazil (currently about half the year) and been developing businesses in partnerships here. Contrary to some, I have found the business environment very open. I guess I have been lucky in my partnership choices. I don't really monger much anymore as I have a regular lady in my town here. She and I have been exploring together. I am very lucky in that she brings a small group of her friends around often. I have set up a very nice comfortable home with many furnishings and touches from the states and we entertain. I cook often and they all love experiencing new dishes. This is my thing (along with my great music, DVD and video game collection.) And it works.
I live very inexpensively here (either though Brazil can be expensive). I bought my home almost 9 years ago. I go to the fresh outdoor farmers market every Wed and Sat morning and I spend about R$15 each time for fruits and veggies. I have a great butcher that slaughters his own livestock and I have a good (not great) fish monger. I take buses to most close locations and book my airfare (Azul, WebJet, Gol) weeks in advance to get great rates.
I just made a solo trip to Rio for the first time in a long time. And came back here to post a bit about that and then just read some to see what was going on.
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[QUOTE=Thong Diva] Girls who have turned tricks on the street at some point in their "careers. " [/QUOTE]
I don't believe this for a minute, and you don't have a shred of evidence to support this, Mr. Lawyer. We all know that SWs are rather pathetic and at the bottom of the food chain. They are girls (if they are girls at all) that no self-respecting termas would hire, or they have gotten old and burned out and drug-addicted, and forced to turn to the street as a last resort.
[QUOTE=Thong Diva]This is one of the most f-ed up countries I have ever visited and ever done business in.[/QUOTE]
If that's your attitude, why don't you stay home? I think Brazilians are the most un-neurotic people in the world, with the possible exception of Italians.
[QUOTE=Thong Diva]
Let's put this to bed....... [/QUOTE]
An excellent idea; this should have been done a long time ago. So far, this is the most intelligent thing you've said.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]I don't believe this for a minute, and you don't have a shred of evidence to support this, Mr. Lawyer. We all know that SWs are rather pathetic and at the bottom of the food chain. They are girls (if they are girls at all) that no self-respecting termas would hire, or they have gotten old and burned out and drug-addicted, and forced to turn to the street as a last resort.
If that's your attitude, why don't you stay home? I think Brazilians are the most un-neurotic people in the world, with the possible exception of Italians.
An excellent idea; this should have been done a long time ago. So far, this is the most intelligent thing you've said.[/QUOTE]
Well said!
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Like the sister site, Hotside, there doesn't appear to be any pricing info on the site. For independents like this, does the website owner dictate some price range that the girls must negotiate within, or how does that work?[/QUOTE]
You can negotiate with the Gatas (this is why a good grasp of Portuguese is mandatory) as to what price you will pay. They start around R80,00 por hora...
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]
And you are a john paying for a service that is illegal in Brazil. And you are in a profession that f's people all day long. What's your point?[/QUOTE]
Where did you get this?
Prostitution is completely legal in Brasil.
You should know if you live here.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]If that's your attitude, why don't you stay home?[/QUOTE]It's called business. I have clients in Brasil. And even they are frustrated with their own country. I'm not debating this here. I don't know who you are, what type of work you do, what your deal is. It's my opinion, and it's shared by others. If you want to accept it, fine. If not, fine, too. I don't care.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]I don't believe this for a minute, and you don't have a shred of evidence to support this, Mr. Lawyer. [/QUOTE]I don't need evidence.
This isn't a trial.
I don't need to prove anything to you.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]I live very inexpensively here. I go to the fresh outdoor farmers market every Wed and Sat morning and I spend about R$15 each time for fruits and veggies. I have a great butcher that slaughters his own livestock and I have a good (not great) fish monger. I take buses to most close locations.[/QUOTE]
Living like a lower-middle class local sucks ass IMO. And especially for a gringo. Most(all?) brasilians DON'T want to live like that. They want to have a nice car, travel abroad, dress fancy and buy status accessories, go out at "in" places (incl. for the male population, in high-priced brothels), flash cash, ect.
Of course as usual to each its own. You can live freely your "third world fantasies" (honestly, that is the feeling that gives your post). Who am I to judge?
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the happiest person is not the one that has more, but the one that needs less
[QUOTE=Prosal]Living like a lower-middle class local sucks ass IMO. And especially for a gringo. Most(all?) brasilians DON'T want to live like that. They want to have a nice car, travel abroad, dress fancy, go out at "in" places, flash cash, ect.
Of course as usual to each its own. You can live freely your "third world fantasies" (honestly, that is the feeling that gives your post), who am I to judge?[/QUOTE]
Someone once said that the happiest person is not the one that has more, but the one that needs less.
I sincerely admire Hughdad for the way he lives. And for his interest in experiencing a different culture. Firsthand.
And I pity Prosal for his lack of understanding.
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre]And I pity Prosal for his lack of understanding.[/QUOTE]
Once more, you know very few about brasilian people obviously. Nonetheless, you've admitted that you know this country only through your imported black favelada wife, so indeed nobody can blame you about your ignorance.
Brasilian lower and lowermiddle class people aspirations are nothing but very normal for emerging countries populations.Yes they want to improve their status and partake what they see on MTV or TV Globo. Of course they do !! And so what's wrong with that ?.... Your silly remark about people that "need less and are happy with that" sounds to me at best like ecologist integrism BS, and otherwise as pure stupidity. In any cases an obvious unawareness of emerging countries people s psyche, aspirations and needs.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Living like a lower-middle class local sucks ass IMO. And especially for a gringo. Most(all?) brasilians DON'T want to live like that. They want to have a nice car, travel abroad, dress fancy and buy status accessories, go out at "in" places (incl. for the male population in high-priced brothels), flash cash, ect.
Of course as usual to each its own. You can live freely your "third world fantasies" (honestly, that is the feeling that gives your post). Who am I to judge?[/QUOTE]
What is this about? The fact is that when one lives in Brasil he'll find life a lot cheaper than what tourists do.
I do not know about lower-middle class, but majority that I know wouldn't be flashing their money. That shit goes on with assholes who live areas like Barra da Tijuca, Recreio and not to mention Zona Sul lowlifes.
I live in middle class neighbourhood, have a house with all that I can imagine I need. I have my own space, freedom and peace. No favelas anywhere near, no baile funk, samba, forro, axe or any other bullshit.
I do not know where Hughdad lives, but I'm sure that if he lives here 6 months a year and has himself integrated to the society he doesn't need to go to thermases or *****houses.
Not everyone in Brasil do that, actually its smaller number of men that we usually think.
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[QUOTE=Perkele]That shit goes on with assholes who live areas like Barra da Tijuca, Recreio and not to mention Zona Sul lowlifes.[/QUOTE]
No need to be angry and vindictive towards people who have a life more comfortable than yours.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]No need to be angry towards people who have a better life than yours.[/QUOTE]
Who said that they have better life than me?
I could live any of those neighbourhoods, but its my choise not to.
Funny how you who visit 1 - X times per year Brasil are such experts on the day per day matters.
I would like to have your insight on some matters here. Let's begin with vehicle licensing. Please let me know how can I license a vehicle that is being alienated by a financing bank? I'm really having some problems with this issue.
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A little early for bed
[QUOTE=Thong Diva] /...
Let's put this to bed and wait and see if anyone else complains about thefts in Rio. All I can say is that the management better make a trip to a German FKK. They could learn a lot about safety and security, not to mention learn how to run a business....[/QUOTE]
As any lawyer knows, the defense deserves to be heard. First let me say that I have no interest in this except curiosity and safety. I just couldn't make my peace with these accusations so I decided to ask L'uomo if this happened and what was their response.
My Portuguese is not very good, but basically, their story is that this gringo came in and ran up a big bill and on the way out said he had had R300 stolen out of his locker but he would keep it quiet if they gave him R100 discount. Otherwise, he would put it out on the internet.
Actually, this sounds much more likely than the story that has been told here. I am a jury of only one, but I go with the L'uomo version.
In puzzling through all of this -- and this is not meant as anything other than information for fellow explorers -- I thought it would be good to mention that messing around with these sorts of things in termas is a bad idea. Of course, they have security, but one thing you may not be aware of is that these places are frequented by police officers -- policia militaire, bope, you name it. Some places even give them free entrance. For whatever it is worth.
Now, Thong Diva, you can continue your campaign, and maybe it really did happen to you, but, it seems to me you tried to jack them up. But, if you are a good lawyer, you will realize that the most believable story is not yours.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Your pissing contest silly reply isn't even worthy of comment.
But ok. So, according to you, people who, as you say, live in areas like Barra da Tijuca or Recreio (and not to mention Zona Sul of course!) are lowlifes assholes ?. Well, I leave you with your anger and your resentment. You maybe live in Brasil, but you're obviously a sad, angry and malevolent character. No wonder why you spend your time on internet rather than with meninas. Bye.[/QUOTE]
Naw.
I just do not like to pay for a product that is freely available.
Thanks for your excellent advice.
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Love living the suck ass life...
[QUOTE=Prosal]Living like a lower-middle class local sucks ass IMO. And especially for a gringo. Most(all?) brasilians DON'T want to live like that. They want to have a nice car, travel abroad, dress fancy and buy status accessories, go out at "in" places (incl. for the male population, in high-priced brothels), flash cash, ect.
Of course as usual to each its own. You can live freely your "third world fantasies" (honestly, that is the feeling that gives your post). Who am I to judge?[/QUOTE](I know this is the wrong thread for all this and I started it with a few additional comments in a post but allow me to finish it and get it off this forum. My apologies.)
Because I said I live inexpensively here you say I am lower-middle class here? I was simply replying to everyone talking about how expensive things can be here.
I have everything I need to leave in comfort and in the class I want. I was fortunate to have someone approach me 9 years ago about buying some places in Brazil. When he could not repay my loans I ended up with a house and a condo in a nice town of several hundred thousand people. I rented these out for awhile and took possession of the home a few years back, made some upgrades and brought down all the comforts for the US. (The contents of the home I sold in the US at the height of the real estate market. I saw that mess coming and sold and rented a small place for a few years.)
I have a new car here, a steady lady (with friends) and a separate building on my property which is the base of my businesses. I entertain often and my friends love hanging on my US furniture, not that cheap hard Brazil crap. I have great cable, internet and satellite service and a killer music, DVD and video game collection (more for my guests.) I have a bar with a stripper pole, a karaoke machine, and I am learning to play guitar.
I take buses because it is convenient to get into the major cities that way. I can get on a cheap overnight bus and sleep and wake up in Rio tomorrow. Or I can fly. I can be in SP in several hours.
I travel abroad all the time on business (here half the year approx.) I dress casually in my nice US wardrobe (left the suit and tie world behind). I have zero use "flashing cash and fancy accesssories". That's macho bullshit for guys with small dicks.
I buy my fruits and veggies at a farmer's market because they are the freshest you can find anywhere. They happen to also be dirt cheap. I also have a bakery I walk to at 6 am every morning for over fresh bread. There are also some great restaurants in town and I am actually partnering on a new one. A concept I came up with that (if it goes well) will be franchised. I don't smoke and occassionally drink beer. I drink good wine from my collection with most dinners. And I have free sex every morning and night (and some nooners) of the week (one or twice a week with more than one lady at a time). My lady is a beautiful young mulata sweetheart with a ever present and wide bright smile, a laugh that is contagious, beautiful round firm breasts and a cute bubble butt you can bounce a quarter off of. She is also smart and only about half as crazy as most Brazilian women (lol).
If this is a life that sucks....I love living the sucky life. Go flash your cash and fancy status accessories in the hot spots while you hold your needle dick.
(Again my apologies for starting this conversation in the wrong thread.)
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[QUOTE=Perkele]Where did you get this?
Prostitution is completely legal in Brasil.
You should know if you live here.[/QUOTE]I was referring to the fact that it is illegal to promote prostitution and he was in a termas and there are questions as to their legality. My shorthand point wasn't well stated for sure. Apologies.
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[quote=prosal]living like a lower-middle class local sucks ass imo. and especially for a gringo. most(all?) brasilians don't want to live like that. they want to have a nice car, travel abroad, dress fancy and buy status accessories, go out at "in" places (incl. for the male population, in high-priced brothels), flash cash, ect.
of course as usual to each its own. you can live freely your "third world fantasies" (honestly, that is the feeling that gives your post). who am i to judge?[/quote]prosal
absolute twaddle.
not all (thank god) see the world from your shallow perspective. most of the wealthy brazilians that you meet in the high end brothels, are some of the most obnoxious, miserable, mau educado "bar stewards" on the planet. i would imagine that most of the people from their own peer pressure group think the same.
was going to write more but would be a waste of time.
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Getting to the bottom of it
[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Now, Thong Diva, you can continue your campaign, and maybe it really did happen to you, but, it seems to me you tried to jack them up. But, if you are a good lawyer, you will realize that the most believable story is not yours.[/QUOTE]
There might be an easy explanation as to where the money went. Were there any other American lawyers in the locker room that day?
In terms of trustworthiness -- locker room attendants at L'uomo vs. American lawyers. Not even close.
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Well said
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]There might be an easy explanation as to where the money went. Were there any other American lawyers in the locker room that day?
In terms of trustworthiness -- locker room attendants at L'uomo vs. American lawyers. Not even close.[/QUOTE]Bwahaahaahaaaa! Well said indeed!
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Pm
BS,
I have been trying to send you a PM but it says your inbox is full. Is there another way I can reach you?
[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]if it is a true independent web site, then they don't get involved at all in pricing issues, in order to remain totally legal.
They just provide an advertising service
Some of the girls are massage parlor workers, usually if they have incall[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Thong Diva]Fred: I don't know you. But I like your way of thinking. OK, I'll buy that maybe a fellow monger ripped me off. I'm a lawyer, so I think like a lawyer. .[/QUOTE]You were definitely up for a bashing when you fessed up to being a Lawyer.
Joke:
All the kids in the class had to stand up and give a brief description of what their dad did for a living.
Little sally stands up and says my daddy's builds peoples houses.
Little Billy stands up and says my daddy's a doctor and makes people better.
Little Johnnie stands up and says my daddy takes his clothes off in a gay bar at night and if the money is right he will have sex in the ally behind the bar.
The teacher gets into a flap and dismisses all the other kids. Says to Little Johnnie, Is this true what you said about you father.
Johnnie says no he is a lawyer, I was just too ashamed to say in front of the other kids.
Sorry about that. I expect you have heard them all.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]. I go to the fresh outdoor farmers market every Wed and Sat morning and I spend about R$15 each time for fruits and veggies. I have a great butcher that slaughters his own livestock and I have a good (not great) fish monger.
[/QUOTE]Everybody shops for fresh produce, meats, fish, etc. this way. You'd be crazy not to. Our maid and cook would do this for us. But, I'd go on Sunday mornings regularly for the fresh cana and pastels. Whoever said this is a 'lower class existence' is an imbecile or misanthrope who doesn't understand Brazil. It's a friendly, fun and social thing to do.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]My Portuguese is not very good, but basically, their story is that this gringo came in and ran up a big bill and on the way out said he had had R300 stolen out of his locker but he would keep it quiet if they gave him R100 discount. Otherwise, he would put it out on the internet.
Now, Thong Diva, you can continue your campaign, and maybe it really did happen to you, but, it seems to me you tried to jack them up. But, if you are a good lawyer, you will realize that the most believable story is not yours.[/QUOTE]At the end of the day, I'm not trying to influence your decision to go to L'Uomo. I've been happy going there over the past year or so. Obviously, you will be going there regardless of what I say and my decision not to go back.
I have a feeling that if my posting rate was higher, you wouldn't be so quick to judge. It's a credibility thing. I see that.
Nevertheless, assuming you actually spoke to the L'Uomo management, their version is totally incorrect. A "big bill" is a relative thing. My bill was R$657. I'd hardly call this a big bill for 2 sessions, entry and booze for me and the girls. I paid in cash (at least what was left). I don't know if they were trying to give you the impression that I wouldn't be able to afford my bill, but that's not the case.
With respect the accusation that I threatened to post this all over the internet, that's completely false. While I am doing that to a rather limited extent, I never threatened them with that. Threats in those types of situations aren't going to get you anywhere. It doesn't stand to reason why I would make threats knowing full well there are likely large men ready to chuck me out of the place. That's rubbish and you know it.
As regards this R$100 discount, a lot of emphasis seems to placed on this. I initially asked them to discount my bill by R$300, since that was what was stolen. I moved down to R$200, then R$100 at the end. This "negotiation" lasted the whole of 10 seconds. They clearly were not budging. I have a feeling that the emphasis on this R$100 discount stems from the fact that I was re-inforcing my position that 3x R$100 notes were stolen because I kept re-iterating that I knew the notes were blue, there were no blue notes in my wallet that those were the notes missing.
I don't understand why you are taking this so personally. I posted this here as just a word to the wise. I am in no way trying to ruin the reputation of this place. You may say I am, but I'm not. It's a brothel, for goodness sake. To believe that this is a business on the up and up is a delusion. You can think whatever you want. You can think you have a great reputation with the management, but there are obviously plenty of people on here who disagree.
Enjoy your time at L'Uomo. I know I have. I just won't be back because of this.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]In terms of trustworthiness -- locker room attendants at L'uomo vs. American lawyers. Not even close.[/QUOTE]You don't even know what type of lawyer I am. Bug off. You have no basis for that comment. If you got screwed by an American lawyer that's your problem. Why don't read this thread and you'll see I never pointed the finger at the attendant.
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First experience
Hello,
so after I had found die pdf map in this thread I did get a bit of orientation where to go. Since I arrived on thursday most places seamed close so I was looking forward to friday evening.
After checking the Avenida Atlantica, where nothing was going on I decided to check out the place called Balcony.
After walking by 5 times a Bellby from a Hotel pointed it out for me. I had seen it many times but I thought it just was a regular sports bar. Anyway I went in at about 7 pm and it was quickly clear to me that this is a hang out for ladies (i still use my thai terms ;-)
I med a fellow german and an american guy at the bar and we started having lots of drinks and fun talking, chatting and viewing the avaible meat.
After being really a little bit drunk I started getting horny and a lady with name natalia with great skinny body and scorpion tadoo on her back cought my attention.
Anyway I invited her to have a drink with me and my follow maits had olso choosen their chica. She seamed really nice and was hot by any standart.
I asked her about her price and she answered 300 for all night, since I do not like all nighter I offered 120 for 2 hours. We settled on 150. I am sure it maybe to much but I was drunk and horny.
We went to my hotel on avenida princes isabel. The Merlin Hotel. Here the first surprise. I had to pay 84 reales to get the lady into my room, that sucked but anyway that live I guess.
The 2 hours where really nice, not the best we we used the whole place of the hotel room. Fucking doggy stily looking out the window on copa or straight at the many mirrow in the room. I think we used 5 condoms in that time period.
I had hitten all the money and importand docs in the save so I did not worry to much to take a shower and live here out of sight for a couple minutes.
After we finished I walked back with her to Balcony and had a couple more drinks until I was really drunk. Chatted with some pro Ladies that had worked in europe, like Amsterdam red light or frankfurt train station part of town, others are married to germans and italians and work in balcony receive the nice money from their husbands and play I love wife when they are here. Kind of reminded me a bit of Thailand. But I guess thats the business they are in. I do not speak Portuguese but good spanish so conversation was not difficult.
Today I want to check the Termas (Luomo). They should not be more expensive then my experience yesterday chica 150 and hotel 84 aq total of 234 reales.
Can somebody tell the cost i have to expect and generel procedure at Luomo ?
Chears,
Ecoquest
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Old joke
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]There might be an easy explanation as to where the money went. Were there any other American lawyers in the locker room that day?
In terms of trustworthiness -- locker room attendants at L'uomo vs. American lawyers. Not even close.[/QUOTE]
Q: How can you tell when it's a REALLY cold day?
A: When you find a lawyer with his hands in his own pockets.
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[QUOTE=Thong Diva]I don't need evidence.
This isn't a trial.
I don't need to prove anything to you.[/QUOTE]No, just go on making unsubstantiated claims about the business practices of an establishment. Since we are left to speculate: my guess (based on the new info from SlimDrillHole) is you got balls deep into good pussy and shot your financial load. It happens. That haynannynanny can make a man insane.
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Another lawyer joke
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Q: How can you tell when it's a REALLY cold day?
A: When you find a lawyer with his hands in his own pockets.[/QUOTE]Q: What do you call 100 lawyers in the bottom of the ocean?
A: A good start.
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Dum Dum, one word- Variety! He is probably getting bored having sex with you all the time, and he doesn't want to cheat on you in your backyard, so out of respect for you, he does it with girls that he has no long term attachments with. That is the simple answer. Its probably more complex, but that is the main reason. He could have other reasons, but I don't know him, so I can't give a more detailed answer. Why do you think he is with prostitutes. What clues have you found.
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[QUOTE=Dum Dum]I'm in need of a little help. I am a woman who just discovered that my boyfriend, who I love dearly, may be participating in some "mongering" (new phase I just learned last night). Can any of you gents give me a brief run down on what it is about travel/prostitutes? Furthermore, sex with a prostitute at all, when you have a women that is eager to satisfy you?
I'm very open minded and not here to judge. I'm just looking for some clarity and honesty.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Instinct. Men, like males of most species, are genetically programmed to seek new and diverse sexual partners whenever and wherever possible. The best and fastest ways for men to do that in high volume and quality is discussed here, for free or for pay, for almost every country in the world. Be happy if your boyfriend answers the call, and isn't a gender-neutral kind of guy with all the humanity stolen from him. A guy like that is more like a piece of furniture. Here at ISG you see people who know how to travel well and live life to the fullest, as it was intended.
If you would like a lot of discussion, you should try the Morality of Prostitution thread. This particular thread is for Rio-specific info. If your BF was coming to Rio and *not* experiencing some Brasilian girls, you would have reason to suspect that he either has sexuality issues or is just mentally beat-down to where normalcy is not possible. The Brasilian girls tend to have their own very natural and carefree style and ways, different from girls in Asia or Europe, for example, and everyone should try them at least once. That's not to say that you aren't fun, just that girls from different cultures each have their own merits and it's important to try to learn about these and take it as life experience. Perhaps you have wondered what it is like to be with men of other parts of the world and your BF would encourage you to have those experiences? I hope so. A person's body and sexuality should not be considered as someone else's personal property to restrict and control. Outside of relationships, that kind of stuff is illegal.
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[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Everybody shops for fresh produce, meats, fish, etc. this way. You'd be crazy not to. Our maid and cook would do this for us. But, I'd go on Sunday mornings regularly for the fresh cana and pastels. Whoever said this is a 'lower class existence' is an imbecile or misanthrope who doesn't understand Brazil. It's a friendly, fun and social thing to do.[/QUOTE]Prosal's a sad, sad little tool. Because I mentioned I buy fresh foods at low prices and take buses to the big cities for business trips (who wouldn't) he jumps to a conclusion a lower class existence. I have a great home, new car, and all the nice furnishings from the US which makes my home a great entertainment place. I built a nice bar in my home with a stripper pole and have a big hot tub. I am a great cook and my many friends here come to try new dishes (and they bring me all the beer, wine and booze to stock my home bar). And, best of all, I have a great lady here that is open to some great explorations together and brings her friends into our relationship.
Everyone here is after the brass ring: tons of great free sex. I have built that life here. I got my home here about 9 years ago. So without having any home, car and loan payments; paying zero for sex (unless we decide to explore and monger); and with cheap prices on great fresh foods, I can certainly say I live inexpensively. But I have a great full lifestyle. Even my housekeeper is a lot of fun.
I pity those douchy guys that have to buy expensive suits, shiny accessories and flash cash to try to get noticed. (I am sure some are trying to compensate for their small package.) Me, I sit back and let it all come to me. I spend my energy on my business ventures here.
And, yes, you are right, the outdoor food market can be a very social and fun place. I actually met a few nice young ladies there in the past. I offered to cook them an interesting meal and they eagerly accepted. And nothing like walking to a bakery to buy fresh bread first thing in the morning.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Instinct. Men, like males of most species, are genetically programmed to seek new and diverse sexual partners whenever and wherever possible. The best and fastest ways for men to do that in high volume and quality is discussed here, for free or for pay, for almost every country in the world. Be happy if your boyfriend answers the call, and isn't a gender-neutral kind of guy with all the humanity stolen from him. A guy like that is more like a piece of furniture. Here at ISG you see people who know how to travel well and live life to the fullest, as it was intended.
If you would like a lot of discussion, you should try the Morality of Prostitution thread. This particular thread is for Rio-specific info. If your BF was coming to Rio and *not* experiencing some Brasilian girls, you would have reason to suspect that he either has sexuality issues or is just mentally beat-down to where normalcy is not possible. The Brasilian girls tend to have their own very natural and carefree style and ways, different from girls in Asia or Europe, for example, and everyone should try them at least once. That's not to say that you aren't fun, just that girls from different cultures each have their own merits and it's important to try to learn about these and take it as life experience. Perhaps you have wondered what it is like to be with men of other parts of the world and your BF would encourage you to have those experiences? I hope so. A person's body and sexuality should not be considered as someone else's personal property to restrict and control. Outside of relationships, that kind of stuff is illegal.[/QUOTE]
There is just one danger for non brasilian women. When one tries brasilian girl, there is a big chance that non brasilian especially feminist western woman doesn't feel a natural choice anymore.
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It's not you it's him...
[QUOTE=Dum Dum]I'm in need of a little help. I am a woman who just discovered that my boyfriend, who I love dearly, may be participating in some "mongering" (new phase I just learned last night). Can any of you gents give me a brief run down on what it is about travel/prostitutes? Furthermore, sex with a prostitute at all, when you have a women that is eager to satisfy you?
I'm very open minded and not here to judge. I'm just looking for some clarity and honesty.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
He's just having some fun. It's a natural male mindset. Some men have been brainwashed to think sex is wrong. I think they get campers, boats, harleys, etc, or do a lot of church activities and charities. Those are their "children" outside the relationship. Some men may pervert the natural desire into another route. Some might be gay and just having a hetero relationship for show. Some might have hormonal problems. But if you have a normal, red-blooded boyfriend, he is just being natural, he probably loves you very much, but we are all of us products of evolution and this is how we are. You can take consolation that you are not alone. Every man is this way, every one of your female relatives and girlfriends has or is going to experience at least one betrayal like this, its just a matter of if you see it, or it takes a deeper and darker path...
Once he has tired of the shallow physical relations with Brazilian prostitutes he will come back to you, you will offer him a far deeper relationship, see how hard he tries to hide what he was doing, this is just a dalliance for him, you are the real thing.
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[QUOTE=Dum Dum]I'm in need of a little help. I am a woman who just discovered that my boyfriend, who I love dearly, may be participating in some "mongering" (new phase I just learned last night). Can any of you gents give me a brief run down on what it is about travel/prostitutes? Furthermore, sex with a prostitute at all, when you have a women that is eager to satisfy you?
I'm very open minded and not here to judge. I'm just looking for some clarity and honesty.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Why not look on the positive side and take this as a green light to have some fun of your own, while he is in Brazil you could having sex with other guys and you would not have to feel guilty about it. The glass is not half empty, it is half full.
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[QUOTE=Dum Dum]I'm in need of a little help. I am a woman who just discovered that my boyfriend, who I love dearly, may be participating in some "mongering" (new phase I just learned last night). Can any of you gents give me a brief run down on what it is about travel/prostitutes? Furthermore, sex with a prostitute at all, when you have a women that is eager to satisfy you?
I'm very open minded and not here to judge. I'm just looking for some clarity and honesty.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Let me give it to you straight if I had a woman willing to come on this site wanting to know the ins a outs as to what and why we do
I probably would not be a member here.
Much respect to you.
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rtff
[QUOTE=Dum Dum]I'm in need of a little help. I am a woman who just discovered that my boyfriend, who I love dearly, may be participating in some "mongering" (new phase I just learned last night). Can any of you gents give me a brief run down on what it is about travel/prostitutes? Furthermore, sex with a prostitute at all, when you have a women that is eager to satisfy you?
I'm very open minded and not here to judge. I'm just looking for some clarity and honesty.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
This is a major distraction and I doubt it is genuine. Even if it is, this is not the place for it. I can't stand the thought of page after page of answers on this.
Querida, if you are for real, RTFF. You can find out what that means in the abbreviations section.
Talk about distractions, first the grand heist in L'uomo, now, a damsel in distress. Give me a break.
Now, for some news related to the purpose of this forum. New place opened called 53 which is sister to 22 in Copa. No. 53 R. Sa Ferreira. Same rules and prices as 22, Gotta say, this is not a great neighborhood since the street leading from Cantagalo favela dumps out here. But, another low/mid price option at that end of Copa. Close to Arpoador and Ipanema as well.
Funny, they have built the boite to look like 22, as if that was something you would want to copy. Didn't get a chance to check the facilities but couldn't be much lower than 22, Well, they could be but this is a new place so probably better.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]This is a major distraction and I doubt it is genuine. Even if it is, this is not the place for it. I can't stand the thought of page after page of answers on this.
Querida, if you are for real, RTFF. You can find out what that means in the abbreviations section.
Talk about distractions, first the grand heist in L'uomo, now, a damsel in distress. Give me a break.
Now, for some news related to the purpose of this forum. New place opened called 53 which is sister to 22 in Copa. No. 53 R. Sa Ferreira. Same rules and prices as 22, Gotta say, this is not a great neighborhood since the street leading from Cantagalo favela dumps out here. But, another low/mid price option at that end of Copa. Close to Arpoador and Ipanema as well.
Funny, they have built the boite to look like 22, as if that was something you would want to copy. Didn't get a chance to check the facilities but couldn't be much lower than 22, Well, they could be but this is a new place so probably better.[/QUOTE]Its not new it closed down for a few and they must have remodeled it.
I checked this place out Dec 2008 and returned in Dec 2009 and it was closed.
So good to see it reopened will venture ther in 3 weeks.
Thanks for the info.
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[QUOTE=Fred100]Prosal ; Absolute twaddle ; Not all (thank god) see the world from your shallow perspective..[/QUOTE]
Ok. So lower and lower-middle classes in Brasil (and consequently, in all emerging countries) don't want to improve their lifestyle.
They don't want to dress well, have a nice car, go out dining in nice places, travel abroad, ect ect. And status upgrade means nothing for them.
One should grant you a Nobel Prize in Economy and Social Sciences. And of Mongering. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Fred100] Most of the wealthy Brazilians that you meet in the high end brothels, are some of the most obnoxious, miserable, mau educado "bar stewards" on the planet.[/QUOTE]
Agree on that. Nonetheless if you had an ounce of intelligence and if you knew a bit this country, you'd know that most of those "obnoxious and mau educado" wealthy brasilians you meet in the high-end brothels where once "not wealthy and mau educado" low-end brothels clients who just went up on the social ladder. And you'd know also that one of the dreams of most "mau educado non-wealthy brasilians" low-end brothel clients is to become those very same "obnoxious and mau educado" you meet in high-end brothels. See what i mean, or is it too complicated for you?
BTW, on a cultural note, "mau educado" is not portuguese, you clown; "mal educado" is.
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Kudos
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Prosal's a sad, sad little tool. Because I mentioned I buy fresh foods at low prices and take buses to the big cities for business trips (who wouldn't) he jumps to a conclusion a lower class existence. I have a great home, new car, and all the nice furnishings from the US which makes my home a great entertainment place. I built a nice bar in my home with a stripper pole and have a big hot tub. I am a great cook and my many friends here come to try new dishes (and they bring me all the beer, wine and booze to stock my home bar). And, best of all, I have a great lady here that is open to some great explorations together and brings her friends into our relationship.
Everyone here is after the brass ring: tons of great free sex. I have built that life here. I got my home here about 9 years ago. So without having any home, car and loan payments; paying zero for sex (unless we decide to explore and monger); and with cheap prices on great fresh foods, I can certainly say I live inexpensively. But I have a great full lifestyle. Even my housekeeper is a lot of fun.
I pity those douchy guys that have to buy expensive suits, shiny accessories and flash cash to try to get noticed. (I am sure some are trying to compensate for their small package.) Me, I sit back and let it all come to me. I spend my energy on my business ventures here.
And, yes, you are right, the outdoor food market can be a very social and fun place. I actually met a few nice young ladies there in the past. I offered to cook them an interesting meal and they eagerly accepted. And nothing like walking to a bakery to buy fresh bread first thing in the morning.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you have the life, my friend. My hat is off to you. Someday when I grow up ....
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Lol
[QUOTE=Prosal]Hughdad, the fact that you live a lower-middle class guy in Brasil doesn't make of you a cool person.
Macunaima lives there since much longer than you and is still an asshole. And it seems that you're on your way to become a Macu-bis. :)[/QUOTE]
No Prosal, there is a Hugh (excuse me, Huge) difference between someone who is a success in life and someone who never will be. Academics and governmental bureaucrats can only dream.
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Funny to see 2 of the biggest trouble makers on this board go at it and argue about basicly nothing. Why not pm wach other with this lovefest.
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Living the dream
Hughdad,
Life sounds good! You are living the dream that many of us have! I hope to live a little more of my dream for 2 weeks in June and a month in November.
My 2 cents - calm down guys, life is too short to bicker and argue, let's talk about the ladies.
[QUOTE=Hughdad] I have a great home, new car, and all the nice furnishings from the US which makes my home a great entertainment place. I built a nice bar in my home with a stripper pole and have a big hot tub. I am a great cook and my many friends here come to try new dishes (and they bring me all the beer, wine and booze to stock my home bar). And, best of all, I have a great lady here that is open to some great explorations together and brings her friends into our relationship.
Everyone here is after the brass ring: tons of great free sex. I have built that life here. I got my home here about 9 years ago. So without having any home, car and loan payments; paying zero for sex (unless we decide to explore and monger); and with cheap prices on great fresh foods, I can certainly say I live inexpensively. But I have a great full lifestyle. Even my housekeeper is a lot of fun.
I pity those douchy guys that have to buy expensive suits, shiny accessories and flash cash to try to get noticed. (I am sure some are trying to compensate for their small package.) Me, I sit back and let it all come to me. I spend my energy on my business ventures here.
And, yes, you are right, the outdoor food market can be a very social and fun place. I actually met a few nice young ladies there in the past. I offered to cook them an interesting meal and they eagerly accepted. And nothing like walking to a bakery to buy fresh bread first thing in the morning.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Manute Bol]Funny to see 2 of the biggest trouble makers on this board go at it and argue about basicly nothing. Why not pm wach other with this lovefest.[/QUOTE]
As a scrounger on this forum (and until you earn or borrow 19.99$ to finally participate for the costs) you don't have to say what a paying member has to do or not.
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L'uomo webcams
Someone mentioned in the past that the relax room was convertered into an online webcam/ sexchat center. Anyone have the URL?
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Hughdad, the fact that you live a lower-middle class life in Brasil doesn't make of you a cool person.[/QUOTE]I don't care one bit what you think about my life. You are way off base. Nor do I aspire to be a "cool person" (what is this the 70's?). I'll leave all that to you as you globetrot in search of exotic pussy. I don't have to leave my house.
My business ventures here are moving along great. That is my focus, capitalizing on the opportunities here. I set myself up to be in this position as I saw it coming several years ago. I have everything I need and want, and more.
I am sorry that Brazilian girlfriend of yours broke your heart. Seems like she was more interested in your wallet than you as a person. That is the danger in pretending you are something that you are not. "Keep it real, dude"
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[QUOTE=Blackceo88]BS,
I have been trying to send you a PM but it says your inbox is full. Is there another way I can reach you?[/QUOTE]
sorry, fixed my inbox ...........
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Maybe this would have been better filed under "Living in Brazil", but it's where it is.
The life you're describing here, Hughdad, sounds well-nigh perfect to me. You've obviously found a home where you are, living as you prefer. You don't "have to feel important," you don't have to show off, to be happy with yourself and your life.
"Throwin' cash and showin' flash" may be what some of us need to feel like a big shot (I refer, with sarcastic pleasure, to Billy Joel's "Big Shot" for those old enough to remember him). And, yes, some of us equate "the good life" with "being the big shot." If that's what floats your boat, go have your fun, but don't look to me (or Hughdad) for pity when your fun runs out.
If this doesn't meet with the approval of "Antônio Prosalheiro", BFD.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Because I said I live inexpensively here you say I am lower-middle class here? I have everything I need to leave in comfort and in the class I want. I have a new car here, a steady lady (with friends) and a separate building on my property which is the base of my businesses. I entertain often and my friends love hanging on my US furniture. I have a bar with a stripper pole, a karaoke machine, and I am learning to play guitar.
I take buses because it is convenient to get into the major cities that way. I can get on a cheap overnight bus and sleep and wake up in Rio tomorrow. Or I can fly. I can be in SP in several hours.
I travel abroad all the time on business (here half the year approx.) I dress casually in my nice US wardrobe (left the suit and tie world behind). I have zero use "flashing cash and fancy accesssories".
I buy my fruits and veggies at a farmer's market because they are the freshest you can find anywhere. I also have a bakery I walk to at 6 am every morning for over fresh bread. There are also some great restaurants in town and I am actually partnering on a new one.
If this is a life that sucks....I love living the sucky life. Go flash your cash and fancy status accessories in the hot spots.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]
I pity those douchy guys that have to buy expensive suits, shiny accessories and flash cash to try to get noticed. (I am sure some are trying to compensate for their small package.) Me, I sit back and let it all come to me. [/QUOTE]
Good for you, Hughdad.
All the best.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad] ... My lady is a beautiful young mulata sweetheart with a ever present and wide bright smile, a laugh that is contagious, beautiful round firm breasts and a cute bubble butt you can bounce a quarter off of. She is also smart and only about half as crazy as most Brazilian women ...
... If this is a life that sucks....I love living the sucky life ...[/QUOTE]
Sounds perfeito amigo!!!
Everyone´s perception of happyness is obvoiosly different.
Some guys live for the glitz and glamour and others the simple, and layed back.
Both styles of living are great if makes YOU happy, and only YOU can be the judge of that.
Have fun amigo, sounds like you are!! :)
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[QUOTE=Prosal]As a scrounger on this forum (and until you earn or borrow 19.99$ to finally participate for the costs) you don't have to say what a paying member has to do or not.[/QUOTE]Actually I just did. Fact of the matter is you have say because you have abused your posistion as a poster so stop brown nosing to make yourself look good, You start a lot of trouble on this board that is overlooked. Its really none fo your business what anyone else does on here. In fact if your so hellbent on fee's you should be charged for every cancerous toxic post you made. So take your cheap funeral suit off. You seem to be mad at life so dont take it on the board.
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[QUOTE=Manute Bol]Actually I just did. Fact of the matter is you have say because you have abused your posistion as a poster so stop brown nosing to make yourself look good, You start a lot of trouble on this board that is overlooked. Its really none fo your business what anyone else does on here. In fact if your so hellbent on fee's you should be charged for every cancerous toxic post you made. So take your cheap funeral suit off. You seem to be mad at life so dont take it on the board.[/QUOTE]
Well said! :-)
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err..
Since the forum is about making love not war [ :) ], may I steer it back to the love making?
Sperto just suggested that prices for sessions were negotiable in Bar Florida. [post]1029008[/post]. This is intriguing.
Has anyone tried negotiating in Casarao, Bar 22 or places like that? I thought only the free range garotas were negotiable, so at bars and termas I just say the rate that is posted here for a given place, and they say yes, and then I fuck them.
Side note:
Apparently Flavia's has closed and Ave Rio Branco 156 Sala 1526 now has Duda and Carla, which were a couple of Flavia's anal and CIM princesses. It's new to me.
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After reading the last few pages, I just want to add that some of you need to get a life:(
Really.
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10 Best and Worst of Rio from 1st Time Visitor
Just returned from a memorable 8 day trip. Thanks to everyone who contributed information and tips. Special thanks go out to Sperto for his excellent maps and the infamous Bwana Diks and Bubba Boy's Rio guides. Also, a couple of experienced mongers (not sure if on this forum but thanks if you are) took us under their wings and showed us around. Everything regarding: airlines, exchange rates, atm's, taxis, restaurants, excursions, and apartments is in the RTFF. So I will just give my account regarding the trip.
The following is my 10 Best and Worst of Rio. The rating goes from the very best to the very worst.
1. Solarium. L'uomos we were told by other mongers on this particular day, was not that good and they sent down two girls to check over but they were 7 at best so we skipped this place and went to Solarium. However, there are too many good reports on L'uomos and I plan on checking it out on my next trip.
The whole Terma idea was new to me but from reading the forum I was expecting to walk into a King Aurthur Knights of the Round Table with a harem of exotic princesses catering to us like Kings. So my expectations were very high. But the place was nothing like I imagined. The main area is small like a tiny nightclub and there were less than a dozen women there when we went. But that didn't matter. The women were simply gorgeous!
to be continued...(my number 1 just arrived and must go)....
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[QUOTE=Dos Lunas]Just returned from a memorable 8 day trip. Thanks to everyone who contributed information and tips. Special thanks go out to Sperto for his excellent maps and the infamous Bwana Diks and Bubba Boy's Rio guides. Also, a couple of experienced mongers (not sure if on this forum but thanks if you are) took us under their wings and showed us around. Everything regarding: airlines, exchange rates, atm's, taxis, restaurants, excursions, and apartments is in the RTFF. So I will just give my account regarding the trip.
The following is my 10 Best and Worst of Rio. The rating goes from the very best to the very worst.
1. Solarium. L'uomos we were told by other mongers on this particular day, was not that good and they sent down two girls to check over but they were 7 at best so we skipped this place and went to Solarium. However, there are too many good reports on L'uomos and I plan on checking it out on my next trip.
The whole Terma idea was new to me but from reading the forum I was expecting to walk into a King Aurthur Knights of the Round Table with a harem of exotic princesses catering to us like Kings. So my expectations were very high. But the place was nothing like I imagined. The main area is small like a tiny nightclub and there were less than a dozen women there when we went. But that didn't matter. The women were simply gorgeous!
to be continued...(my number 1 just arrived and must go)....[/QUOTE]
The women here is what I imagined garotas to look like, my Victoria Secret models. I was mesmerized by one particular GDP and she made me feel incredible. Lots of french kissing, touching, lap dances, and massaging. This was my fantasy girl and she wanted to go to the room. But we arrived late and the place was closing soon and I felt rushed and thought I could delay the satisfaction and see her another day. Big mistake, never got a chance to go back and in hindsight she was the best of all the women I met.
2. Karlas Models. Easy to set up, reasonable rate, and superb service. GFE, DFK, BBBJ, CFS, MSOG, great attitude, and two hours of fun. This is a no brainer.
3. The Beach. As in sun rays, sun tan, thong bikinis with beautiful stunning women laying out, is a sight to behold. Granted, the weather wasn't the best during my stay, and most days the beach was empty. But on Sunday, it was hot and everyone was out. This is the way I imagined Rio to be and it was an amazing sight. Definitely have to return when the sun is out more.
4. Balcony. I had this love-hate relationship with this place. Initially thought it was over-rated and pitiful. I mean come on, I fly thousands of miles to this exotic destination to hang out at a whole-in a-wall place of a restaurant-bar to look at women? I could have done this at home. I was a little disgusted with myself thinking there has got to be a better place at night. But as the days followed, this WAS the only place at night in Copa to meet women. By the end of my stay, I pulled 4 women there: R150 for 2 hours, R150 for 4 hours, R150 for 2 hours, and R80 for 4 hours. I loved this place. (Meia Pataca. This place sucks. Don't bother. Empty and wound up just watching televison with my drinks.)
These four venues were the best for me and it is all I need to have a very good time in Rio.
The next four locations I was not impressed and would probably not return. The last two I will never return.
5. 4x4. The place has average women and did not compare to Solarium, and probably L'uomos. Yes they have the most girls, but the place is small and the women came across jaded and bored. I sessioned here but it was just okay.
6. Barberellas. This strip club came highly rated but the place didn't make me feel all fuzzy and warm. It could have been any strip club in the U.S. It was okay.
7. Cancun. This place (the bar area where you keep your clothes on) was somewhat classy and nice, but no fuzzy and warm. It was okay.
8. BA85. This place made me feel claustrophobic and gasping for air. If this is the standard by what all the other centro locations compare to, then it is not for me. The place is like a fucking nightmare on elm street waiting to happen. It is a multi-layered building with tiny rooms, each with their own music and bar. But to get to each floor, you have to climb this fucking tiny spiral metal staircase. Only one person can go in each direction. It's dark and filthy. No thanks.
9. Vila Mimosa. This place is the gutter. Dirty, ugly, slimy, and gritty. Think of T.J. but a lot worse. Yes they have some cuties there for the cheap. But so fucking what? It's like trying to enjoy your favorite meal in a dumpster, while you have these rateros looking in trying to rob you. Never again.
This last venue is the worst place to visit. DO NOT GO.
10. Favela tour. We got robbed. This turned out to be a real live fucking nightmare. I'm not sure which one we went to but it was near Floresta de Tijuca? We left late during daylight and were driven in a dark van with tinted windows. By the time we got there, it was dark outside. We were driving on the main road and it looked a lot like T.J. but worse. We were snapping pictures and recording video as we drove along. At one point we saw a bunch of young men, 18-20 years old armed with artillery, guns, rifles, and what looked like a grenade launcher. Within 10 seconds we were ordered to stop and rifles, guns, and yes grenade launcher pointed directly at us. We were ordered to get out of the vehicle and show them our cameras and how they worked. They took our cameras and guide away to the drug lord and ordered us stay put while they pointed the guns at us. These guys appeared crazy and each had their finger right on the trigger ready to shoot. Luckily, the guide returned and they kept one of the three cameras and let us go. We made a report with the U.S. Embassy and tried calling the local tourist police but could not get through. After this incident, we partied like rock stars and toasted to life everyday!
Dos Lunas
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A Riot
[QUOTE=Dos Lunas]
9. Vila Mimosa. This place is the gutter. Dirty, ugly, slimy, and gritty. Think of T.J. but a lot worse. Yes they have some cuties there for the cheap. But so fucking what? It's like trying to enjoy your favorite meal in a dumpster, while you have these rateros looking in trying to rob you. Never again.
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Simply the most concise, accurate and funny description of VM I have ever heard. With your permission, I would like to use that line sometime "like trying to enjoy your favorite meal in a dumpster." That is classic.
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[QUOTE=Dos Lunas] Luckily, the guide returned and they kept one of the three cameras and let us go. We made a report with the U.S. Embassy and tried calling the local tourist police but could not get through.
Dos Lunas[/QUOTE]
Did the favela tour company refund your money to you? I am shocked that happened because nobody can go into the favelas and cunduct business without the dono of the favela giving the okay. They must have had his blessing from the beginning in order to take you guys inside, I wonder what happened.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Did the favela tour company refund your money to you? I am shocked that happened because nobody can go into the favelas and cunduct business without the dono of the favela giving the okay. They must have had his blessing from the beginning in order to take you guys inside, I wonder what happened.[/QUOTE]I'm also curious about which company (or individual) and which favela. I thought those tours were usually carefully vouched for by the folks who run them so they don't get the tourists into trouble. I always thought there's some kind of relationship with the tour company and the gangs, so they get a piece of the fee the tourist pays to see the favela in question.
A late day tour sounds a bit shady to me however. Glad you came out okay but it must have been terrifying.
I personally was never interested in the favela tours, as that kind of "poverty tourism" I'm not really comfortable with, and stories like this will definitely keep me away.
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[QUOTE=Phunluv]I'm also curious about which company (or individual) and which favela. I thought those tours were usually carefully vouched for by the folks who run them so they don't get the tourists into trouble. I always thought there's some kind of relationship with the tour company and the gangs, so they get a piece of the fee the tourist pays to see the favela in question.
A late day tour sounds a bit shady to me however. Glad you came out okay but it must have been terrifying.
I personally was never interested in the favela tours, as that kind of "poverty tourism" I'm not really comfortable with, and stories like this will definitely keep me away.[/QUOTE]
In retrospect, the tour operator did come across as shady. Talking to some of the taxi drivers and other workers that are familiar with the favelas, we learned four things that lead to this disaster. Never go there at night. Do not go in a dark van which can be confused with undercover police. We went to the wrong favela where there is no agreement about the safety of tourists. We were taking pictures and video. We went back to the tour operator and demanded our money and gave him a piece of our mind, but no refund, even with the veil threat of police intervention. He simply blamed it on the tour guide, who apparently was subcontracted. The subcontractor was visibly shook up and was told never to go back up there or he would be shot.
Also the tour operator repeatedly said it would be safe. That fucker even had the nerve to ask us if we wanted to partake in other excursions.
They have a store front in Copa one block from the beach. They are located: Rua Aires Saldanha N. 40B. The guy's name is Wilson. 2247-1450. The subcontractor/guide is Mario. The driver appeared to be a subcontractor as well. This tour operator put our lives at stake with their bad judgment just to make a buck. They should not be in business. On a side note, we did have excellent service from another tour operator.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Simply the most concise, accurate and funny description of VM I have ever heard. With your permission, I would like to use that line sometime "like trying to enjoy your favorite meal in a dumpster." That is classic.[/QUOTE]
I call it as I see it. Sure thing. Thanks.
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Thanks for this PutaPlaya. Just saw this today. I'll make sure to check this place when I get to Rio next month.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Bar 22 is in Copa on 22 Siqueria Campos toward the beach from Luomo and the metro station. I would say its a big step below Luomo in atmosphere and a big step above NS Copa 583 204 which had a little joke of a bar and a only few garotas. 22 is more of a normal bar with a lot of people just drinking and some girls available in the boite. About 10 on the Friday night when I was there. I paid $R100/30 but you can do better. Check SlimHoleDrill's post here.
[post]1017999[/post]
When I compare 22 to Luomo, I am comparing to Ane at L'uomo as the representative girl. Some others on here have sessioned with her. She was an energizer bunny with great presentation like L'uomo girls have, except especially good with glittery makeup and PVC outfit with boots. But all that comes off in the cabine, except the boots which I made her keep on. Then you realize that you just paid more for boite presentation, marketing to be exact. Down the street at 22, it was more real transitioning from the boite to cabine because the presentation in the boite is about the same as when you get to the cabine. The garota called Bianca at Bar 22 was much more girl-next-door and a better Brasilian experience, less professional and more natural and enjoyable. The other garotas seemed to be of the same persona. YMMV.
22 had garota bingo, which I loved from a previous Sao Paulo trip and haven't seen anywhere in Rio other than 22. Brasilian guys were drinking it up and having a good time groping the girls and hoping to win bingo. As the bingo cards fill up, the energy of the place becomes amazing with everyone in anticipation of winning a free session. The bingo slip had a picture of a little cartoon squaw with a feather in her hair, so I think it was made specifically for termas bingo. The girl that I eventually sessioned sat on my lap waiting to see if I would win her, and sticking her tongue in my ear. When I didn't win, I paid at the entrance window at the top of the stairs and we went back for fuck. It was a fun place. Anyway, I'd pick Bar 22 over L'uomo because it made me feel like I was in normal Rio instead of feeling like a tourist trap, the feel of L'uomo. But more discriminating high-class mongers would prefer L'uomo for the cleaner and more upscale environment.[/QUOTE]
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Favela tours
I took a favela tour 10 years ago operated by Marcelo Armstrong. He is still in business; this is a link to his website: [url]http://www.favelatour.com.br/[/url]. He was recommended by Lonely Planet, which also gave his cell number. It operated on Sunday in late morning and went to Rocinha. He was quite open about the fact that he operated on an agreement with the drug kings and that they got a cut of every tour. He portrayed them as Robin Hoods who operated schools and clinics and in fact showed us some of them. Yes, I'm skeptical too, but some non-governmental entity was operating them.
The tour opened my eyes about the favelas, or at least this one; they are not anywhere near as wretched as I had assumed. Yes, the people are poor, but many of the houses had gardens, indoor plumbing, electricity, and access to public transportation; there were buses running all the way to the top of the hill in Rocinha. No one molested us at all. I'm not naive, and I have no doubt that we were being shown only what they wanted us to see, and I have no doubt that the poor people who live there are subjected to unspeakable violence at night; I could hear the gunfire from Rocinha whenever I stayed at the Sheraton. But in spite of these caveats, I think Marcelo's tour is well worth taking.
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About Favelas
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]I took a favela tour 10 years ago operated by Marcelo Armstrong. He is still in business; this is a link to his website: [url]http://www.favelatour.com.br/[/url]. He was recommended by Lonely Planet, which also gave his cell number. It operated on Sunday in late morning and went to Rocinha. He was quite open about the fact that he operated on an agreement with the drug kings and that they got a cut of every tour. He portrayed them as Robin Hoods who operated schools and clinics and in fact showed us some of them. Yes, I'm skeptical too, but some non-governmental entity was operating them.
The tour opened my eyes about the favelas, or at least this one; they are not anywhere near as wretched as I had assumed. Yes, the people are poor, but many of the houses had gardens, indoor plumbing, electricity, and access to public transportation; there were buses running all the way to the top of the hill in Rocinha. No one molested us at all. I'm not naive, and I have no doubt that we were being shown only what they wanted us to see, and I have no doubt that the poor people who live there are subjected to unspeakable violence at night; I could hear the gunfire from Rocinha whenever I stayed at the Sheraton. But in spite of these caveats, I think Marcelo's tour is well worth taking.[/QUOTE]
Yes, favelas have all services one can imagine, water, sewage, power, Internet, phone, Satellite TV... you name it they have it. All stolen. We who pay our bills pay their life too.
My opinion is that there should be resolution to get rid of those parasites... I even have an idea how... but never mind.
Living in a favela is a choise to steal from others, there is nothing robinhoodlike or anything great. All just bunch of thieves in a way or another.
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[QUOTE=Perkele]Yes, favelas have all services one can imagine, water, sewage, power, Internet, phone, Satellite TV... you name it they have it. All stolen. We who pay our bills pay their life too.
My opinion is that there should be resolution to get rid of those parasites... I even have an idea how... but never mind.
Living in a favela is a choise to steal from others, there is nothing robinhoodlike or anything great. All just bunch of thieves in a way or another.[/QUOTE]
This is absolute horseshit. Yes, there are thieves there, but the vast majority of favela residents are honest, hard-working people just trying to survive while working at menial jobs none of us would take. They are the maids who make our beds in the hotels we stay in, the waiters in the restaurants where we eat, the guys who work in the sewers, drive buses and taxis, etc. Yes, the scum should be cleaned out, but most of the people there are not scum.
By the way, exactly how do you steal "water, sewage, power," etc.?
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]This is absolute horseshit. Yes, there are thieves there, but the vast majority of favela residents are honest, hard-working people just trying to survive while working at menial jobs none of us would take. They are the maids who make our beds in the hotels we stay in, the waiters in the restaurants where we eat, the guys who work in the sewers, drive buses and taxis, etc. Yes, the scum should be cleaned out, but most of the people there are not scum.
By the way, exactly how do you steal "water, sewage, power," etc.?[/QUOTE]
Well, if some service, like water, sewage, power etc. is something you are supposed to pay for and you do not, its called stealing.
I'm glad that you know conditions so well in Brasil. How many years you've being living here?
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Different place, different rules.
[QUOTE=Perkele]Well, if some service, like water, sewage, power etc. is something you are supposed to pay for and you do not, its called stealing.
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Different place, different rules. I agree with Lorenzo that you can find amazing people in the favelas from Rio. These people are just trying to survive in a difficult situation. And they deserve our respect.
Furthermore, sometimes there's more joy and humanity at the Rio favelas than at some high-class neighborhoods in the first world.
Different place, different rules.
Please watch this video and realize that the magic of carnaval wouldn't be possible without the favela people:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LWNemMExcg[/url]
Watch it full screen in HD!!
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Different rules indeed
[quote=jota erre]different place, different rules. i agree with lorenzo that you can find amazing people in the favelas from rio. these people are just trying to survive in a difficult situation. and they deserve our respect.
furthermore, sometimes there's more joy and humanity at the rio favelas than at some high-class neighborhoods in the first world.
different place, different rules. [/quote]
joy and humanity in favelas? ..people that deserve our respect? ...are you attempting humour ?
according to the world health organization, approximately 43 % of the women in brasil have suffered physical or sexual violence at some point during their lives, and this number comes near 58 % in the poorest areas (favelas and periferias). yeah, you read that right. brasil has a sad record of domestic violence, and literacy, social tension and poverty play an important role in it. who numbers. in favelas, almost 3 women out of 5 have suffered (or suffer) sexual abuse, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], wife-beating, ect. you are right, favelados are great people indeed. well, admittedly, a bit less when they're drunk on home-made cachaça mixed with liters of brahma or antarctica. which is, for a large majority, 7 days a week.
you guys really crack me up with your inevitably complaisant and totally ridiculous rose-tinted vision of this country and its people. a kind of mix of naivety, cultural unawareness, bad faith and stupidity. as with your folklorish promotional carnaval or samba youtube videos that seem to be directly out of some laughable "isg tourism authority of brasil" that publicise some idealized and romantic - and totally disconnected - view of this country.
:rolleyes:
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I think if enough people asked Jackson, he might give Prosal his own thread. He does have some knowledge of Brasil and is occasionally correct, but there is an absence of any desire to help people find good paid sex in Brasil. It is mostly negative stuff saying how dumb Brasil is, how dumb punters are for going to Brasil (and how we would all be better off going to Eastern Europe). Sorry, but we can hardly expect newbies to RTFF if they have to wade through pages of what is little more than general discussion.
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I have to say...
[quote=prosal]joy and humanity in favelas? ..people that deserve our respect? ...are you attempting humour ?
according to the world health organization, approximately 43 % of the women in brasil have suffered physical or sexual violence at some point during their lives, and this number comes near 58 % in the poorest areas (favelas and periferias). yeah, you read that right. brasil has a sad record of domestic violence, and literacy, social tension and poverty play an important role in it. who numbers. in favelas, almost 3 women out of 5 have suffered (or suffer) sexual abuse, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], wife-beating, ect. you are right, favelados are great people indeed. well, admittedly, a bit less when they're drunk on home-made cachaça mixed with liters of brahma or antarctica. which is, for a large majority, 7 days a week.
you guys really crack me up with your inevitably complaisant and totally ridiculous rose-tinted vision of this country and its people. a kind of mix of naivety, cultural unawareness, bad faith and stupidity. as with your folklorish promotional carnaval or samba youtube videos that seem to be directly out of some laughable "isg tourism authority of brasil" that publicise some idealized and romantic - and totally disconnected - view of this country.
:rolleyes:[/quote]this was a very insightful and well-supported post. i agree that many try to paint brazil as a beautiful country with beautiful, loving, always happy people. the people here are mostly miserable and have zero social skills.
that said, i never met a women from any other country that can fuck like a brazilian woman. (bye again, stopped in for some info from a pm)
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]I think if enough people asked Jackson, he might give Prosal his own thread. He does have some knowledge of Brasil and is occasionally correct, but there is an absence of any desire to help people find good paid sex in Brasil. It is mostly negative stuff saying how dumb Brasil is, how dumb punters are for going to Brasil (and how we would all be better off going to Eastern Europe)[/QUOTE]Don't get me wrong. I now monger in FSU (but still go back from time to time for personal reasons to SP), but I am the first to admit that the FSU masses are a fairly dumb lot and that most guys there are xenophobic, vicious, malevolent, drunk and silly flatheads. And that in Romania, the main employer is mafia. And that Uzbekistan is a silly fucked-up police state. And that Moldova is swarming with foreigner-haters thugs. And that provincial Russia, because of all the drawbacks, hurdles, hassles, discomfort and absurd situations that implies a trip there, is definitively not for everyone. Ect, ect. That is called OBJECTIVITY. But I don't care, I go there only for the fine freebie pussy, and nor to fall in love with the country, nor to make friends.
Objectivity is of more added-value for the monger than naivety, exaggerated enthusiasm or bad faith, which do nobody a favor.
The problem is that on the ISG Brasil threads, very few people have (well, admittedly, Perkele and E.T have) objective views about brasilian life and brasilian people, and are ready to admit that brasilian masses are ALSO a fairly dumb lot, and that Brasil has ALSO many negatives sides, and is not the carefree paradise that most daydreamers mongers who live in permanent denial of realities enjoy to promote here.
My own thread just because I make from time to time some objective posts about the "dark sides" of Brasil, like the one below about domestic violence in favelas? ..well, you're not only gratuitously whining, but also totally talking out of your ass. But report my post (as you will surely do, as usual, you sniveling whiner you) and complain to Jackson, if you feel like it, mudak. And let's see the result.
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A more balanced perspective
I don't necessarily see any contradiction by saying the "common classes" tend to display themselves as happy and/or fun-loving despite the poverty and social ills.
Actually, in a way it makes sense. The intensity of the carnival atmosphere and other feast days or just regular weekend parties is their way to "blow off steam" from the pressures and problems of their daily lives.
You see this also in other parts of latin-america. I'll never forget my first trip to Cuba when I saw Havana's version of the carnival. Once it was over, the afro-cuban kids continued the party on the street, still singing and dancing, until they were packed like sardines in these tiny, crappy, Chinese busses that would take them back to the lowliest barrios in the outskirts of Havana.
I can't imagine living under Fidel can be "fun" but that night there was not a hint of misery, at least the mental kind.
Now as for the complaint about "stealing" of utilities, that seems kind of scrooge-ish, or maybe the person just doesn't understand how things work in south america.
There's a similar dynamic in Colombia for instance. The poorest people pay zero or next to nothing for utilities, subsidized by the rich and middle class. But it's MORE than made up by the shit wages most poor people get. So you can hire an older lady to clean your place a couple of times a week and pay her a pittance. But even though that amount could never cover the real value of the water and electricity she uses, it doesn't matter as the cost is socialized amongst the entire middle and upper class.
And the richer you are, the better this kind of system works in your favor.
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All for yourself.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Joy and humanity in favelas? ..people that deserve our respect? ...are you attempting humour ?
You guys really crack me up with your inevitably complaisant and totally ridiculous rose-tinted vision of this country and its people. A kind of mix of naivety, cultural unawareness, bad faith and stupidity. [/QUOTE]
...naivety? ....cultural unawareness? bad faith and stupidity?
Listen, Mr. Know-it-all, Rio has its good share of problems and conflictive areas. Nobody is denying that. But that doesn't mean you can't respect people that live in those areas. I do.
You're such a hateful, negative and sour human being, that I also agree with Christopherd that you should have your own thread.
Just for yourself.
All for yourself.
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Back in Rio
I arrived Wednesday morning around 8am. It is a long trip from the west coast of the US, but having larger, reclining seats makes it much better. Went thru customs, walked upstairs to departure and grabed a taxi to Copa. It felt great to be back.
Brazil is a country full of irony and paradox. I find that the more I learn of the language the more I´m able to appreciate the culture with all it´s varied permutations. For me, and this is my opinion, a people more passionate about life and love I have yet to find.
After unpacking at my apt in Copa I bought a pass on metrô and headed over to Rua Carioca 40 and 59(2 casas that Christophered introduced me to), nada at the former or the later. Next stop BA 85. although this is a very challenging place to navigate, one inveribly can find a gem or two with good inerviewing and communication skills. That iron staircase is way too narrow for my liking and some of the quartos can be discusting, but it is a gem that I´m after and that is what I found.
A beautiful, slim negra on the third floor grabbed me as I continued up to check the entire scene. Got up to the top and nothing, made my way back down and was on the third floor again. Dianes looked tempting in her tall dark- skined frame, wearing an inviting laced black thong and low cut bra. I commenced with the qualifying interview. Você beija na boca? Sim com vontade! Você faz oral sem capa? Sim, com vontade!That was enough for me!
Paid the R32 for 1/2 hour, yeah inflation!
In the room Dianes was a gata furiosa, she showed me that she was not just talking trash(although I was in área trash)and got down on her lovely knees undid my belt, exposed my pau and began to devour me whole heartedly, com vontade.
After what seemed an eternity she offered herself by bending over on the bed, pulling her sexy thong down around her thighs(OMG what a incredible sight)as I took her from behind while still standing. Hearing honest and real moans of pleasure really move me into that other level where time is non existant. Gostoso! Carvalho! I coudn´t hold back after a 18 month absense...
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[QUOTE=Perkele]Yes, favelas have all services one can imagine, water, sewage, power, Internet, phone, Satellite TV... you name it they have it.[/QUOTE]True. When I got my MBA, my girlfriend at the time threw me a party at her best friend's uncle's house in Rocinha. Notice the...can't remember if it was a big ass jacuzzi or a small ass pool on top of the house.
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[QUOTE=Perkele]Yes, favelas have all services one can imagine, water, sewage, power, Internet, phone, Satellite TV... you name it they have it. All stolen. We who pay our bills pay their life too.
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Asphalt roads? Postal service? Police and ambulance come to your door when called?
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]
That said, I never met a women from any other country that can fuck like a Brazilian woman. (Bye again, stopped in for some info from a PM)[/QUOTE]
Ever been to Colombia?
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[QUOTE=Henry R]Ever been to Colombia?[/QUOTE]
From people I know who have been to both Brasil and Colombia, they have all said the same thing: Colombianas may have prettier faces, but Brasileiras have the better body but above all, a much better attitude and are much wilder and better in bed than the Colombianas. Now, can those in here who have been to both Brasil and Colombia, comment on this?
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[QUOTE=Sprite13]From people I know who have been to both Brasil and Colombia, they have all said the same thing: Colombianas may have prettier faces, but Brasileiras have the better body but above all, a much better attitude and are much wilder and better in bed than the Colombianas. Now, can those in here who have been to both Brasil and Colombia, comment on this?[/QUOTE]I am going July 22! I cannot wait to see the difference!
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[QUOTE=Sprite13]From people I know who have been to both Brasil and Colombia, they have all said the same thing: Colombianas may have prettier faces, but Brasileiras have the better body but above all, a much better attitude and are much wilder and better in bed than the Colombianas. Now, can those in here who have been to both Brasil and Colombia, comment on this?[/QUOTE]
Depends on their inspiration.
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[QUOTE=Sprite13]From people I know who have been to both Brasil and Colombia, they have all said the same thing: Colombianas may have prettier faces, but Brasileiras have the better body but above all, a much better attitude and are much wilder and better in bed than the Colombianas. Now, can those in here who have been to both Brasil and Colombia, comment on this?[/QUOTE]Wilder I can't say. I know some Colombianas who are pure freaks. And I know some Brasileiras who are equal. IMHO Colombianas are drop dead gorgeous to my standards. I'm really on the teeter totter between the two. What sways me the most to Colombia is that they are more dependable. Rarely will you find a Colombiana that will stand you up or not do what she says. Once a Colombiana took the bus 14 hours to see me. Another one took the bus 3 hours to see me, stayed 3 hours, and took the bus back. Fat chance if you want that from a Brasileira. Your ass can fly 18 hours from bum fuck Egypt to Rio, and if she lives one hour from Rio she will want you to take the bus after your long flight. What sways me more to Brasil is their figure (ass). Nice shape, but if there is a 10% chance she is going to stick by her word that doesn't do me a damn bit of good.
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Brazilian Women the best?
I have been to both countries - Brazil three times and Colombia once. I love Brazil, it is my favorite country, the people are great, the girls have the best bodies and are great in the sack. But from my experience I think the Colombian women are the best in the sack.
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[QUOTE=Sprite13]Now, can those in here who have been to both Brasil and Colombia, comment on this?[/QUOTE]
I have only been to Colombia once and sessioned with two women, whereas I have been to Brazil 13 times and sessioned with more women than I can count. However, based on my limited experience of Colombia, I would say that Colombian women are the equal of brasileiras in every way. Just judging from the girls I saw in the street, a much higher percentage of women would rate as beautiful in Colombia than in Brazil. But I still prefer Brazil simply because it is a fascinating place, whereas Colombia is just an interesting place. Besides, there is no equivalent of a termas in Colombia. Bottom line: you can find beautiful women and great sex all over Latin America, by which I mean Portuguese- and Spanish-speaking America. Latinas are the best in the world, bar none. You'll find your worst sexual experiences in the English- and Dutch-speaking countries of the Caribbean. About the French-speaking countries I can't say...yet.
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As we are into comparisons
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Latinas are the best in the world, bar none.[/QUOTE]
The ratio of truly drop dead gorgeous women is admittedly much lower in South America than in Former Soviet Union.
Many people forget that the Russian Empire, and then the Soviet Union, covered sixth of earth landmass and included 250 distinct ethnic groups (160 now in Russia), themselves being the result of centuries of mixes and blends between East Slavs, Ottomans, Indo-Europeans, Persians, Tatars, Mongols, ect. The variety of women in this part of the world is unparalleled, even in SA. The guys who say that FSU women are all shapeless and pale blondes don't know what they talk about and should visit someday Stans, Caucasus, Moldova, Romania or Bulgaria (or, within Russia, Ural, Volga or Siberian regions).
Furthermore, although Latinas are sexually "easy-going", Russian-ethnic girls are much more into the hard-core, long and passionate no-holds-barred 1000 mph sex. This is Russian mentality. These are extreme people. They are also undoubtedly the most learned and cultured women in the world (thanks to the Soviet education system, still alive in Russia, and which gives an immense importance to litterature and poetry). And they are witty, smart, passionate and enthusiast. And they are emotional people. Very emotional.
Not even talking about the fact that they are inevitably dressed in too short skirts and "fuck-me" stilettos, and that they love to have absolutely wild drunken parties.
After 15 years of mongering in Brasil, once I've been Russian, I've never came back. Yeah, for me, FSU women are the best in the world, bar none. ;)
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[QUOTE=Cachorro]Asphalt roads? Postal service? Police and ambulance come to your door when called?[/QUOTE]
Well, since you opened this particular can of worms: Asphalt, yes but roads no. Great majority of so called roads seem to be asphalt covered fields with holes in it. Postal service, bunch of thieves. Anything of value disappears, even letters. Police and ambulance? Who on earth wants to call a police and why. To be able to pay a bribe? Or to be able to be abused by the police? Can't trust them. Ambulance, you must refer on SAMU. Those take forever to appear. Also they pick patients who are on public place only. If you're at home and not able to go to the street you need to cal a private ambulance, which is safer anyway, but not free. And all these services are paid by taxes, which favela rats do not pay. Believe me 99 percent of favela population are worthless leaches.
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Why don't you post at the russian thread?
[QUOTE=Prosal]
After 15 years of mongering in Brasil, once I've been Russian, I've never came back. Yeah, for me, FSU women are the best in the world, bar none. ;)[/QUOTE]
So if you don't care about brazilian women... why keep bothering us, insulting us, and wasting our time with your posts? Why do you hate brazilians so much?
P.S.: Checking your messages, the truth is that you post more in the brazilian threads, than in the russian ones. Funny.
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Why do you hate yourself so much?
[QUOTE=Prosal]By "us", what you mean?
FYI, not all people here are losers whose only mongering experiences are to have imported a favelada wife from Brasil to Europe and to fuck prostitutes in Spain nasty brothels.
There's world class travelers here, interested by new perspectives and unexplored pathes.[/QUOTE]
...imported a favelada wife from Brasil to Europe? Excuse me sir, but you're very wrong. Not even close!
I was once married to a beautiful brazilian (not exactly a favelada) and believe me, it was a great experience. I've been travelling to Brazil for more than twelve years. And I'm aware of its beauty and its flaws.
My question is why do you hate people in Brazil so much? Why do you insult people in this thread so much?
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When you judge others, you are the one that feels the pain.
[QUOTE=Prosal]
You guys really crack me up with your inevitably complaisant and totally ridiculous rose-tinted vision of this country and its people. A kind of mix of naivety, cultural unawareness, bad faith and stupidity.
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.. so I found another of those "hippy" sentences that you enjoy so much. Maybe it will help you:
"Forgive yourself and everyone around you.
When you judge others, you are the one that feels the pain.
Through forgiveness, all pain disappears"
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how to steal water, electricity
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]
By the way, exactly how do you steal "water, sewage, power," etc.?[/QUOTE]
Is this really so difficult to imagine?
You take a wire, connect it to the electric power line. This is how you steal power.
If you live in a favela, then no power company employee would dare to mess with this setup, or else he would be shot
To be more precise, if he is not a resident of the favela, he would be shot just if he dared to enter the favela. And if he is a resident, he will know better not to interfere with the "gato", the clandestine connection.
But in Brazil, this is a sport. Even rich people, companies, occasionally are caught stealing electricity and water.
Water: same method, connect to the water mains.
Sewage: put your sewage into the sewage drain, or just anywhere into the landscape.
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[QUOTE=Perkele]Yes, favelas have all services one can imagine, water, sewage, power, Internet, phone, Satellite TV... you name it they have it. All stolen. We who pay our bills pay their life too.
My opinion is that there should be resolution to get rid of those parasites... I even have an idea how... but never mind.
Living in a favela is a choise to steal from others, there is nothing robinhoodlike or anything great. All just bunch of thieves in a way or another.[/QUOTE]
Nice attitude...
No need for a discussions explaining that most of the people living in the favelas are hardworking honest people. However they do pay for phone, internet and cable TV.
In some favelas that are invaded and controlled by the police Light has started to prepare for their installations and will in time remove the "gatos". Meaning that the people living in the communidade will have to pay for their electricity.
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre].. so I found another of those "hippy" sentences that you enjoy so much. Maybe it will help you:
"Forgive yourself and everyone around you.
When you judge others, you are the one that feels the pain.
Through forgiveness, all pain disappears"[/QUOTE]
Your rambling, semi-coherent and raving BS is a total waste of bandwidth.
Anyhow instead of your usual sermonial nonsense, what about some elaborated reports of added-value (analytical nightlife overview, club reviews, elaborate lists of "in" places, self-reflexions about the different scenes available, funny accounts featuring lots of booze and poon, ect), about the places where you've been during your allegedly "twelve years of travelling to Brasil" or about any other fascinating untapped spot where your adventurous travels have bring you ?
:rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Nice attitude...[/QUOTE]
Thanks.
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No need for a discussions explaining that most of the people living in the favelas are hardworking honest people. However they do pay for phone, internet and cable TV.
In some favelas that are invaded and controlled by the police Light has started to prepare for their installations and will in time remove the "gatos". Meaning that the people living in the communidade will have to pay for their electricity.[/QUOTE]
Bullshit, people in favelas are just lowlife that should be removed...
It just serves right that those lowlifes finally pay their fair share of utilities.
Its so easy to romanticise those poor lowlifes when you do not end up paying year around their thieving.
A thief is a thief is a thief.
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A poster who writes off hundreds of thousands of people as lowlife that should be removed puts himself in a category with lowlifes that wanted to exterminate Jews. Sadly it's not an uncommon attitude among certain middle-class RJ lowlife but that makes it none the more excusable really. I've met people of integrity in favelas and people utterly lacking it in Copa and so forth. Most people just try to better their circumstances as honestly as they can. Having hoodlums as neighbours or rulers does not make everyone a hoodlum. Just tips the odds against you.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Wilder I can't say. I know some Colombianas who are pure freaks. And I know some Brasileiras who are equal. IMHO Colombianas are drop dead gorgeous to my standards. I'm really on the teeter totter between the two. What sways me the most to Colombia is that they are more dependable. Rarely will you find a Colombiana that will stand you up or not do what she says. Once a Colombiana took the bus 14 hours to see me. Another one took the bus 3 hours to see me, stayed 3 hours, and took the bus back. Fat chance if you want that from a Brasileira. Your ass can fly 18 hours from bum fuck Egypt to Rio, and if she lives one hour from Rio she will want you to take the bus after your long flight. What sways me more to Brasil is their figure (ass). Nice shape, but if there is a 10% chance she is going to stick by her word that doesn't do me a damn bit of good.[/QUOTE]
Well I've been traveling, visiting and practically living in Colombia for more than a decade and have been hanging out now in Sao Paulo, Brasil for several years.
Interesting enough, I have found the exact opposite as you in the Colombiana vs. Brasileira.
I find the Brasileira (non pros) in general much more reliable and sincere than the Colombiana.
In fact, the Colombianas are famous for being flighty, i.e., late, no show, deceptive, etc.
Now I love las Colombianas too, of course, but I simply have found my Brasileira girlfriends to be much more dependable.
I am comparing only the non-pro girls, the pros from both countries, obviously can be unpredictable.
I am also only referring to girls I know from Sao Paulo and Bahia, since
I dont hang out so much in Rio.
As far as looks go, IMO, I think you will find more drop dead beautiful girls in Colombia (and Venezuela too), but I find the Brasileiras have a very sexy, and more fun attitude that I dig.
For me, I thought I was having the best sex ever in Colombia, but thats until I came to Brazil.
IMO, in general, its more relaxed and easy going in Brazil.
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...a marvellous place
[QUOTE=Prosal] Right. I post in the Uzbekistan, Moldova, Georgia, Russia and Romania threads. Can you even locate Uzbekistan on a map BTW ?
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Of course. Today Uzbekistan is all over the news. And it looks like a marvellous place.
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14kyrgyz.html[/url]
I quote The New York Times:
"BATKEN, Kyrgyzstan — Rioting spread across the south of this strategically important Central Asian nation on Sunday as the authorities failed to contain mobs that appeared to be increasingly engaging in targeted ethnic violence.
Thousands of Uzbeks have fled to the nearby border with Uzbekistan, and the authorities were said to have lost control of Osh...".
I guess that's what you call "world class travelers, interested by new perspectives and unexplored pathes".
Supreme. :-)
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre]What??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Christopherd]
A poster who writes off hundreds of thousands of people as lowlife that should be removed puts himself in a category with lowlifes that wanted to exterminate Jews. Sadly it's not an uncommon attitude among certain middle-class RJ lowlife but that makes it none the more excusable really. I've met people of integrity in favelas and people utterly lacking it in Copa and so forth. Most people just try to better their circumstances as honestly as they can. Having hoodlums as neighbours or rulers does not make everyone a hoodlum. Just tips the odds against you.
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What part of remove you do not understand?
Maybe relocate would be the right word here? Send back where they came from.
This was done in Colombia if I remember right and area was transformed to a park.
The fact is that favelas are useful for many corrupted politicians and police.
What were you thinking?
To Chris, you're so wrong that it almost makes me hurt. Maybe you pass lot of time in Brasil, but try living here. You'll find out that I'm closer to the truth than you can ever imagine. As I say 90% makes the rest look bad.
This is end of discussion related favelas from my part. If you guys really want to believe that favela rats are the people you want to associate, problem is not mine. I'm just telling how they are being seen by general public in Brasil. Remember I live here 365 days per year, and its not always fun.
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[QUOTE=Perkele]
Maybe relocate would be the right word here? Send back where they came from.
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Brilliant. Clear a big piece of forest or something for them? I am sorry for comparing this idea to Hitler's. Pol Pot would be more exact. The fact is that swathes of RJ middle-class would do anything to wish the problem didn't exist. It's a 'not-on-my-doorstep' syndrome. Same as what might be my knee jerk if they open a half-way house down the road from where I live. The ultimate test of a country's moral probity is perhaps the way it treats its own worse off. But no-one living comfortably really wants to see taxes go on more government 'projects' - much less 'providing' faveladas with electricity and running water. Or rehousing them in Amazonas so they can band together with hidden criminals and form a Colombian-style guerilla force. No, it would be much more convenient if they just went 'somewhere.'
[quote]This is end of discussion related favelas from my part.[/QUOTE]
Go on . . . go and have the last word . . . It's your right. I'll let you. :D :D :D
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Why do you hate so much anything that's brazilian?
[QUOTE=Prosal]Quoting CNN is the ultimate argumentation indeed. ROFLMAO!
Everything you post is controversial, rambling and sermonial nonsense, and a total waste of bandwidth. Your perpetual quibbling only shows your ignorance and your inanity.
Once more, no wonder why you mesh well with faveladas, to the point to import one.
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You're really obsessed with your insults.
By the way, I met my wife in Spain, while she was studying at an spanish university (not exactly a "favelada"). And after that, I started travelling to Brazil.
One question: Why do you hate so much anything that's brazilian?
Ipanema? Ilha Grande? Angra? No way! This year I'm travelling to beautiful and peaceful Uzbekistan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[QUOTE=Perkele]Bullshit, people in favelas are just lowlife that should be removed... Believe me 99 percent of favela population are worthless leaches... All just bunch of thieves in a way or another... A thief is a thief is a thief... f you guys really want to believe that favela rats are the people you want to associate, problem is not mine... Maybe relocate would be the right word here? Send back where they came from.[/QUOTE]
20% of the population of Rio are worthless just because they live in favelas? With a attitude like that makes me wonder who should be sent back where he came from.
Favelas have their problems. Some worse than others. However that doesn't justify such a low-level criticism.
Your view on the people living in the favelas are not typical for the average carioca. However it's quite typical for some gringos living in Rio. This attitude can often be blamed on unknowledge and simply being afraid of what they really know so little about.
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Colombia v Brasil
I tend to agree that the Colombianas are more beautiful.
I have not traveled to Colombia, but have met Colombianas, (pro.)
Based on my travels, I believe the Brasileiras are sexier and with less exhibitions. It was not until I arrived in Brazil, that I was introduced to anal sex. (At her request.)
My question to you, that have traveled to both countries:
Is anal sex as easily obtained in Colombia as it is in Brazil?
The Colombianas that I met never gave me that option nor requested it.
On a side note, all this bickering is getting OLD. That one poster's shtick is tiresome. It's his same ole song and dance.
FYI:
This forum has a buddy / ignore list. It's located in the User CP.
We need a trip report. Unfortunately, I am not in Rio and am unable to provide one. :(
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Surdo audition
Friday was my Surdo audition with beija-flor. I stayed close to home cause actually I was nervous and had to be in Nilópolis early friday. Although I´ve been studying Surdo de Primeira, Surdo Corte and Caixa, my teacher had me try out for the Surdo Segunda Ensemble since it plays on 1.
After talking about why I wanted to play I was given the opportunity to show them I could, all 6 of them. This whole audition took about 10 minutes and 18 months of studying. They talked, with me out of the room and called me back in after a few and said SIIIMMMM!
I was ecstatic. I floated out and headed to centro to celebrate. I decided to go to RB 181, got in the elevator to 10th floor, WTF noone there. Headed over to 185 got in the elevator (remember you have to wait in the back of the line before entering the elevator). Took it to floor 20 and walked the steps to 21. They gave me the line up and decided to splurge on on dupla, glad I did...
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[QUOTE=Christopherd] Sadly it's not an uncommon attitude among certain middle-class RJ lowlife but that makes it none the more excusable really.[/QUOTE]
We're not often of like mind, but I agree that favelados are very much alike to lower-upper-classes (and for that matter, mid-to-upper-classes and upper classes) brasilians.
They have the same greedy, obnoxious, impolite, status-conscious and dishonest "burro" behavior that most people here reproach to brasilian middle classes. They are just poorer.
You guys should keep in mind that a "low-life middle class carioca" (your words) is nothing more than a lower-class carioca who for whatever reasons got wealthier.
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Put me in the camp that says Colombians are generally prettier but Brazillians fuck better...... That is me comparing Paisas (girls from Medellin) to Cariocas (girls from Rio). Hopefully, the Calenas (girls from Cali, Colombia) will help me change my mind in July!!!!
Termas Time
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Your view on the people living in the favelas are not typical for the average carioca. However it's quite typical for some gringos living in Rio. This attitude can often be blamed on unknowledge and simply being afraid of what they really know so little about.[/QUOTE]Well said! Thank you!
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Flavia
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]
I was ecstatic. I floated out and headed to centro to celebrate. I decided to go to RB 181, got in the elevator to 10th floor, WTF noone there. Headed over to 185 got in the elevator (remember you have to wait in the back of the line before entering the elevator). Took it to floor 20 and walked the steps to 21. They gave me the line up and decided to splurge on on dupla, glad I did...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's Flavia's and it closed down. I had posted here that it has closed, as shown below, but there is no way that you could have seen that through the smoke and haze of talk about [i]South American anthropology[/i] on the thread these days. It's starting to look like brazzilforum.com. :rolleyes:
[post]1029706[/post]
Glad to hear that you had a good time at Bel Prazer, Rio Branco 185 sala 2114, instead. I see from Sperto's list that their price has gone up to R110/hr from R100 when I reported on their Isabela last June. Hopefully the service has gone up accordingly. She didn't want CIM but I put the shot on goal, so she got pissed and started spitting cum all over the sheet. Not classy.
I'll be arriving there next week and am looking forward to it. :)
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Peace on ISG and lack thereof
[QUOTE=Prosal]Man, you're desperately ignorant and obtuse. A true burro. But it's not a surprise though. No wonder why you mesh well with faveladas, to the point to marry one.
Just to try to educate you (obviously an impossible mission):
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=856556&postcount=169[/url][/QUOTE]
a) Your report about Usbekistan is intriguing, I almost feel like going there (but there still is lots to do in Rio) but the NY Times report sounds like there is some trouble in the larger area.
b) if you refrained from directly offending people, you would get a much lighter reaction from people. And personal attacks are actually against the rules here, so it would be a pity if a prolific Asia commentator would be kicked out.
c) I will say my knee-jerk feelings from memory about the situation without bothering reading the entire thread again to make sure if everything I say is correct.
d) I found Prosal's comments interesting enough to read. Maybe opinionated, but more then a grain of truth to it. Comparison to other countries also are an interesting change.
e) I believe that disparaging remarks about Prosal's comments preceded Prosal's offenses. While this does not justify escalating the conflict onto a level of personal offenses, it might make it a little more understandable.
f) Prosal, can you just cool off and stop escalating the conflict. No personal attacks.
g) everybody else, can you just refrain from making disparaging remarks about people's opinions, as long as there is enough truth and information in the posts!?
h) this reminds me very much about Macunaima, whose contributions I am missing. Did he disappear? Of course, Prosal does not have the extreme knowledge of Macunaima, nor does he react as calmly as Macunaima.
Macunaima knows more then all of us together, including me after a few decades of residence and mongering in Brazil. So what if personally he does not sample the pussy.
I am sad about bullying, ganging up, disparaging people who make contributions that are valuable. You don't need to agree with everything, just pick the grains of truth. Or, I believe, there is an ignore function which I never felt like using.
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CIM by special agreement only
[quote=puta playa]yeah, that's flavia's and it closed down. i had posted here that it has closed, as shown below, but there is no way that you could have seen that through the smoke and haze of talk about [i]south american anthropology[/i] on the thread these days. it's starting to look like brazzilforum.com. :rolleyes:
[post]1029706[/post]
glad to hear that you had a good time at bel prazer, rio branco 185 sala 2114, instead. i see from sperto's list that their price has gone up to r110/hr from r100 when i reported on their isabela last june. hopefully the service has gone up accordingly. she didn't want cim but i put the shot on goal, so she got pissed and started spitting cum all over the sheet. not classy.
i'll be arriving there next week and am looking forward to it. :)[/quote]
come in mouth without warning and permission is considered very impolite and breach of contract. do you expect the girl to be classy if you blatantly violate rules? you totally lacked class! and you say you knew she did not want cim. play by the rules! were you not aware that this is a very serious rule? you should have asked forgiveness and offered a r$ 30 - 50 tip to sweeten her up again.
a sexual act against the express prohibition of the person. and a sexual act widely known as major health risk factor against the will of the person! a feminist would call this "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]". slightly overblown, but not far from the truth. like sticking your tool into the wrong (back) door by purposeful "mistake". or making a condom break on purpose (yes i know there are creeps on this board who do that: risk health and pregnancy of the girls by furtively removing or destroying condoms. creepy! sorry if you do this and feel offended. you would not believe how many girls have no birth control other then the condom)
sorry for being a straight shooter and calling you out, but local costumes are local costumes. you are lucky you did this in a tidy friendly place. try and violate rules in low end places like vila mimosa with ruthlessly violent security forces, and you might risk your life and health. when in rio do as the cariocas do!
how did you manage to finish shooting off before you pulled away? did you hold her?
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flaviamassagens closed down? since when? they close saturdays, though, and of course sundays.
[url]http://www.elliterio.com/veragencia.php?agencia=11[/url]
jazzdaddy, what exactly are you playing, and what exactly is your function at the samba school?
by the way, everyone is welcome to visit me in copacabana for chat or a daytime mongering trip, just pm me with your email, phone, time to call, time zone, contact info. i can call you in the us too.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]We're not often of like mind, but I agree that favelados are very much alike to lower-upper-classes (and for that matter, mid-to-upper-classes and upper classes) brasilians.
They have the same greedy, obnoxious, impolite, status-conscious and dishonest "burro" behavior that most people here reproach to brasilian middle classes. They are just poorer.
You guys should keep in mind that a "low-life middle class carioca" (your words) is nothing more than a lower-class carioca who for whatever reasons got wealthier.[/QUOTE]
A lot of truth in this.
One reason I seriously consider moving away from Rio. Maybe interior of Minas, or better Rio Grande do Sul.
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[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]Friday was my Surdo audition with beija-flor. I stayed close to home cause actually I was nervous and had to be in Nilópolis early friday. Although I´ve been studying Surdo de Primeira, Surdo Corte and Caixa, my teacher had me try out for the Surdo Segunda Ensemble since it plays on 1.
After talking about why I wanted to play I was given the opportunity to show them I could, all 6 of them. This whole audition took about 10 minutes and 18 months of studying. They talked, with me out of the room and called me back in after a few and said SIIIMMMM!
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I am really happy for your success, even though I have no idea what you are talking about! LOL!! Anybody who busts their ass for 1 year and a half deserves alot of respect.
Could you possibly explain to an ignorant monger what it is you were doing. Playing an instrument? Dancing samba?
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What fixation he has with Brazil and why, I don't know.
[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]
e) I believe that disparaging remarks about Prosal's comments preceded Prosal's offenses. While this does not justify escalating the conflict onto a level of personal offenses, it might make it a little more understandable.
f) Prosal, can you just cool off and stop escalating the conflict. No personal attacks.[/QUOTE]
...disparaging remarks about Prosal's comments preceded Prosal's offenses?
That's not true. Please, Specialist, do your homework. Nobody insulted Prosal.
What fixation he has with Brazil and why, I don't know.
But as I pointed in a previous post, the guy posts more in the Brazil forum (putting everybody down) that in the Russian ones. You can check by yourself.
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Talk about a lack of class...
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Glad to hear that you had a good time at Bel Prazer, Rio Branco 185 sala 2114, instead. I see from Sperto's list that their price has gone up to R110/hr from R100 when I reported on their Isabela last June. Hopefully the service has gone up accordingly. She didn't want CIM but I put the shot on goal, so she got pissed and started spitting cum all over the sheet. Not classy.[/QUOTE]I agree that your CIM shot was totally not cool and abusive. Definately lacked class. Have you heard of discussing what you want with the lady before sessioning? If she is not into what you are into, then select another lady. She has a right to do what she wants with her body.
BelPrazer prices have not gone up. I just recommended to a friend (R$60 for 30 min, R$80 for 40 minutes and $100 for 1 hour.) He enjoyed a dupla there for a sepcial of R$160.
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Mini field report
I have noticed someone asked for a field report amid all the heated discussions taking place. I personally have gleened some good info from the banter going on.
At any rate: I had to leave Saturday night to go to the US for 4 weeks. I arranged to fly from Rio instead of SP as I have to come back directly to Rio with some business partners when I return.
The sun came out late Saturday morning so I took the Metro (from Centro) and headed to the beach. I walked down to Ipanema and back to Copa. Beaches weren't crowded as winds were constant and waves were strong, but still lots of interesting sites. I grabbed a table at an outdoor restaurant and struck up a conversation with 2 older ladies at the next table. Great practice for my Porto and we shared our different dishes. I ordered a great seafood dish of great white fish, broccoli rice, salada misto, fried bananas and grilled pineapple (with a little manga salsa). I said my goodbyes and realized the US vs. England game was going to start. So I decided to head over to Luomo as entrance was free before 4 pm for the games and they had a free buffet spread. I learned that you had to "Make Sex" for the free entrance, but figured what the hell. I told the receptionist I loved that term and she smiled! I really had no plans to "Make Sex" but thought it would be a cool atmosphere to watch the game. Only 5 guys and about 20 garotas inside though. They had a contest where if you guessed the final score of the game you won a bottle of champange too.
So I started to watch the game and about 1 minute in I noticed this beautiful mulata dancing across the boite by the mirrors and she is smiling at me. I ask her if she wants to come join me and she does, she refuses a drink. Don't remember her name as she chose a fairly difficult name. She said she wanted to dance and have me watch her. So we head across the room and she is giving me a great lap dance. It is only her 3rd day there. I forgot the game was even on until some guy who picked England starts celebrating the goal at 4 minutes in. F' it, that is why Tivo was invented. Then she sits and we start making out and they are all wearing their tight little stretchy soccer outfits. My hand quickly slid down the back of her panties and right across her gorgeous tight pussy. Decision made for me. We look up and notice this little spinner with the most gorgeous packed ass, named Suzie, dancing in the corner next to us. Great bunda, long straight jet black hair and exotic features. I was mesmerized. This lady could really dance, like nothing I have ever seen. Not that ghetto bunda bouncing but shaking her moneymaker in synch to the music like it was running through her. She was in her own world. I could have watched her all night. It was just what I call "a Rio moment." Hell, I would have paid to watch her dance all night. I suggest a dupla to my girl, she smiles and she brings Suzie over. They start dancing together in front of me and embracing and kissing. VAMOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got the first suite right next to the boite with the big round bed. And it was an amazing hour. The ladies each came several times really loud and I yelled g-o-o-o-o-l-l-l-l-l to keep in the spirit of the festivities. At one point I looked in overhead mirror and just saw two great asses, one on my face and one riding me and I don't think I ever saw a more beautiful sight. I finally came, they gave me a little massage, I massaged them and we showered and left.
I get back out to the boite to say goodbye to Pietra (who arrived after I already had sticky fingers), Barry the bartender and others and the game just finished in a 1-1 tie. My prediction and I won the champagne. I ask for 10 glasses and give them out to the ladies in the boite and order a beer for me. I bring 2 full glasses to Pietra (she loves champange) and she makes sure I still have her cell phone number for when I return. I did and we made tentative plans for next month. She actually is very business like and dependable in managing her affairs. Her tall body is amazing. She wrecks me when we are together. We stayed up almost all night once just going balls deep. I can't imagine anyone being any better in the sack then her. But everyone has their preferences and good fits.
I sauna, shower, dress and head to pay the bill. I tip Barry, the locker room attendant (hey no one stole R$300 from my locker!) and head to the airport. I was actually running pretty late by then. I take the Metro to my hotel in Centro to retrive my bags and get a taxi to the airport. I realize on the Metro that they only charged me for a 40 minute dupla session. I was glad that I gave each of the ladies a tip. Another "Great Rio Moment" that just happens if you let yourself go and be open to a great time.
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Congrats on your successful drum audition...
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]Friday was my Surdo audition with beija-flor. I stayed close to home cause actually I was nervous and had to be in Nilópolis early friday. Although I´ve been studying Surdo de Primeira, Surdo Corte and Caixa, my teacher had me try out for the Surdo Segunda Ensemble since it plays on 1.
After talking about why I wanted to play I was given the opportunity to show them I could, all 6 of them. This whole audition took about 10 minutes and 18 months of studying. They talked, with me out of the room and called me back in after a few and said SIIIMMMM!
I was ecstatic. I floated out and headed to centro to celebrate. I decided to go to RB 181, got in the elevator to 10th floor, WTF noone there. Headed over to 185 got in the elevator (remember you have to wait in the back of the line before entering the elevator). Took it to floor 20 and walked the steps to 21. They gave me the line up and decided to splurge on on dupla, glad I did...[/QUOTE]It sounds like you put a tremendous amount of work into preparing for it.
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The zen of mongering
[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]Come in mouth without warning and permission is considered very impolite and breach of contract. Do you expect the girl to be classy if you blatantly violate rules? You totally lacked class! [/QUOTE]
Who said that there was no warning? Prior to session, we had an agreement on anal and CIM. I bought an hour with this in mind. Then it was the bait and switch in the room, no anal, no CIM.
So in this case, is she in breach of contract and should I have demanded a pro-rated refund to make up for the fraudulence? There is no contract in mongering, all is fair. I've recieved STI's from girls that obviously must have known they had it and I don't hold it against them because it comes with the territory. I have been injured by giving free license to a Japanese dominatrix who then ignored my safeword, and that was my fault for making her feel that she could entertain herself only as she saw fit. This hobby is about exploitation of our resources by the girls to the maximum extent possible, and about our exploitation of their bodies. So if a GDP enters into session, I consider that she is a mature individual who knows that if she sucks a guys cock bareback until it is pulsing and slipping all over in her mouth, then if she continues, he is going to come in her mouth no matter what she said before she started sucking it.
Thanks to you and Hughdad for your quickdraw offer of moral guidance, though. I will remember all this the next time and stay virtuous while I am mongering.
Let's be real in this uniquely romantic and quasi-chivalrous thread for a moment. What we mongers do is provide a cash incentive for otherwise normal girls to sell their ass for quick money and forgo all their other possibilities for a real future until such a time when they are burnt out and too old to turn back. If it wasn't for us, they might be motivated to go out and seek employment with a long term future. Do we care? Not much, we still monger.. So busting a clean nut in her mouth per our agreement seems a favor in comparison. I've given her a reason to come back the next day and wait for another like me that will keep her in the lifestyle until one day she wakes up at the age of 40, past her GDP expiration date, and married to some dreg Brasilero who beats her daily because no one else wanted such a used up jaded woman. This is the moral territory that we operate in; live and let live.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa].....until one day she wakes up at the age of 40, past her GDP expiration date.....[/QUOTE]
Not at all true, if a girl keeps in shape. I personally know a GDP who was 39 when I met her in L'uomo 10 years ago, and she was truthful about her age when I asked her. Now she is 49 and still in the game, although she tells prospective johns that she is 33. She has now moved to Italy, where she is making top dollar as a call girl. Here is a link where you can access a few pics that were taken 3 or 4 years ago when she was 45 or 46:
[url]http://www.escortforum.net/accompagnatrici/marianah/en/#[/url]
Would you kick her out of bed?
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Exceptional
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Not at all true, if a girl keeps in shape. I personally know a GDP who was 39 when I met her in L'uomo 10 years ago, and she was truthful about her age when I asked her. Now she is 49 and still in the game, although she tells prospective johns that she is 33. She has now moved to Italy, where she is making top dollar as a call girl. Here is a link where you can access a few pics that were taken 3 or 4 years ago when she was 45 or 46:
[url]http://www.escortforum.net/accompagnatrici/marianah/en/#[/url]
Would you kick her out of bed?[/QUOTE]
:) No, not if it was free. But I see enough of the face to say no to P4P. It seems that most guys are not looking for such a 'mature' GDP and if you take all the 20-somethings working in Rio today, the market can't sustain them in the profession for that long before they are washed up and replaced by the next SYT wanting quick money and looking better at getting it. Perhaps if they go to Europe they become the exotic Brasilian and can command sessions well into their 60's for the granny fetishists, who knows?.. :)
My point is that, as other people have pointed out lately, people romanticize Brasilian girls and mongering here as if there is some special code and we are in some kind of trusting relationship 'contract' with GDP's. Not so. Maybe that happens in Cebu City PI or somewhere like that, but in Rio they know the score; that we are swinging dicks and cash. We know that we are using them for fun and if that means that we're promoting them to have dangerous and unhealthy practices or lifestyles, or annoying them within the limits of the law, so be it. I earn my money by always delivering beyond the minimum agreed level of performance, otherwise I would not be making any money. I expect 70% of that from the girls that get the money which usually means CIM and if I actually get the anal that they promise and seldom deliver, I consider it fair at 100%.
Let's take a different L'uomo example who will never make it to 40 as a GDP. Ane that I sessioned last June. Claimed she's 25 and has 2 kids at home. So I am there at Luomo feeding this known-alcoholic drinks to further her addiction, and giving her money that keeps her at Luomo instead of at home taking care of her kids...I think that's the typical GDP before burnout. I'm not going to wax nostalgic about how she was this wonderful human being and I'd just let her neglect her promises. She backed out of CIM and she also got a taste because she had already agreed to it. So there is no need for people to be sentimental about these GDP's like they are some girl from a romance movie. They just aren't. But they are skilled actresses and know how to work a gringo's mind into thinking of them as such. So like others, I can think that they are just the 'girl next door'...and I'm the Pope and not just PP the perv who likes to bang everything in sight and then go post pictures and the story. It's a cute theme, very sweet thing that Rio has going for it.
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Comunidades as they now call them
Favelas (or "comunidades" as they now call them) are a difficult subject, I admit it. Rio has more than 750. And it should be one the objectives of the new Rio: To make the lives of these people more livable with better services.
But these people are real. Just like you or me. They laugh, they cry, they struggle, they are born and they die. Most of them didn't choose to live there. But nobody choses their place of birth (do they?).
Here's a short documentary (10 minutes in Spanish and Portuguese) that shows the two sides of the city: From the Pastana Rio Hotel to one of the "comunidades" or favelas. It's worth watching (specially the second part), even if it's just to practice your Portuguese (don't say Porto, please). Life inside the favela is real. Real people. Real life.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFUuvfZ75o4[/url]
Another comment: Last time I was in Rio (a few months ago) I had a series of work meetings at Botafogo, close to the "comunidade" of Dona Marta. The funny thing is that there's a public wi-fi in Dona Marta, paid by the community. And it's so strong and so good that most of the neighbours pick up the signal.
We had a local wi-fi at the meetings but I ended picking up Dona Marta's signal because it was so much stronger. So who's robbing who?
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre]Favelas (or "comunidades" as they now call them) are a difficult subject, I admit it. Rio has more than 750. And it should be one the objectives of the new Rio: To make the lives of these people more livable with better services.
But these people are real. Just like you or me. They laugh, they cry, they struggle, they are born and they die. Most of them didn't choose to live there. But nobody choses their place of birth (do they?).
Here's a short documentary (10 minutes in Spanish and Portuguese) that shows the two sides of the city: From the Pastana Rio Hotel to one of the "comunidades" or favelas. It's worth watching (specially the second part), even if it's just to practice your Portuguese (don't say Porto, please). Life inside the favela is real. Real people. Real life.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFUuvfZ75o4[/url]
Another comment: Last time I was in Rio (a few months ago) I had a series of work meetings at Botafogo, close to the "comunidade" of Dona Marta. The funny thing is that there's a public wi-fi in Dona Marta, paid by the community. And it's so strong and so good that most of the neighbours pick up the signal.
We had a local wi-fi at the meetings but I ended picking up Dona Marta's signal because it was so much stronger. So who's robbing who?[/QUOTE]
I know, I know. I promised not to participate this favela discussion but now I just have to.
Jota, you are so clueless.
First of all, great majority of favela residents DO choose live in favelas because their accommodation is practically free. In favelas they do not pay even land tax, IPTU. Not to mention that all services are being stolen.
About that Wi-Fi in favela. Do you really think that the actual operators here are giving voluntarily their service for free???
Trust me in one way or another favela rats have been able to blackmail that service and they are not paying one centavo for it. I AM paying their Wi-Fi on my internet provider bill.
There are over 8 million people in Rio de Janeiro and all services here are more expensive than in Europe or US. This doesn't make any sense....
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Favela Internet sem fio
[QUOTE=Perkele]I know, I know. I promised not to participate this favela discussion but now I just have to.
Jota, you are so clueless.
About that Wi-Fi in favela. Do you really think that the actual operators here are giving voluntarily their service for free???
Trust me in one way or another favela rats have been able to blackmail that service and they are not paying one centavo for it. I AM paying their Wi-Fi on my internet provider bill.
There are over 8 million people in Rio de Janeiro and all services here are more expensive than in Europe or US. This doesn't make any sense....[/QUOTE]
Internet sem fio is provided courtesy of Gov Sergio Cabral and ultimately we tax-paying residents of Rio de Janeiro will pay the bill.
[url]http://www.inclusaodigital.gov.br/noticia/internet-sem-fio-chega-a-moradores-de-favela-no-rio[/url]
[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2010/02/02/internet-sem-fio-chega-rocinha-em-marco-915772281.asp[/url]
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Clueless?
[QUOTE=Perkele]I know, I know. I promised not to participate this favela discussion but now I just have to.
Jota, you are so clueless.
About that Wi-Fi in favela. Do you really think that the actual operators here are giving voluntarily their service for free???
Trust me in one way or another favela rats have been able to blackmail that service and they are not paying one centavo for it. I AM paying their Wi-Fi on my internet provider bill. [/QUOTE]
First, don't call these people rats. They're just human beings that, most probably, didn't have it as easy as yourself.
Second, Poucolouco is right. "Internet sem fio" is provided courtesy of Gov Sergio Cabral.
Third, is also responsability of the State to help in taking this people out of poverty. That's the way that is done all over Europe and it makes sense.
Last, I'd like to destroy another myth: Brasil is changing its working habits and soon will become one of the world economic powers.
During the Lula years, the country has changed. One fourth of the population (25%) has gone from poverty to middle class.
Slowly, but is changing. And favelas will change. You'll see.
P.S.: As someone said, these people WORK. They're the ones that are doing, probably, your hotel room, providing you drinks on the beach or cleaning your streets.
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Here's the scond part of the same documentary covering Carnaval.
For whoever is interested. Here's the scond part of the same documentary covering Carnaval.
Carnaval, for example, is something that wouldn't be posible without people from the favelas.
They're the ones that create the costumes and most of the "escolas de samba" are associated to them.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adqyONH8I-g[/url]
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A Felicidade
There's a beatiful song by Tom Jobim and Vinicius de Moraes about Carnaval. It's call "A Felicidade":
Tristeza não tem fim
Felicidade sim...
A felicidade é como a pluma
Que o vento vai levando pelo ar
Voa tão leve
Mas tem a vida breve
Precisa que haja vento sem parar.
A felicidade do pobre parece
A grande ilusão do carnaval
A gente trabalha o ano inteiro
Por um momento de sonho
Pra fazer a fantasia
De rei, ou de pirata, ou jardineira
E tudo se acabar na quarta-feira.
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A Felicidade
I guess all you guys are experts in Portuguese by now. But I'll try to translate it for those who are not:
Though sadness lingers on
Soon happiness is gone
Happiness is like a little feather
The wind has carried up into the air
Floating so free
Yet it can only be
As long as there’s a breeze to hold it there.
So the happiness of a poor man would seem
A grand illusion of the Carnaval
He works and he plans
Each day through the year
To live if just for a moment
In the splendor of his dreams
To be a prince, a king, a Casanova
Then Wednesday comes and Carnaval must end.
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre]First, don't call these people rats. They're just human beings that, most probably, didn't have it as easy as yourself.
Second, Poucolouco is right. "Internet sem fio" is provided courtesy of Gov Sergio Cabral.
Third, is also responsability of the State to help in taking this people out of poverty. That's the way that is done all over Europe and it makes sense.
Last, I'd like to destroy another myth: Brasil is changing its working habits and soon will become one of the world economic powers.
During the Lula years, the country has changed. One fourth of the population (25%) has gone from poverty to middle class.
Slowly, but is changing. And favelas will change. You'll see.
P.S.: As someone said, these people WORK. They're the ones that are doing, probably, your hotel room, providing you drinks on the beach or cleaning your streets.[/QUOTE]
Right.
Those "people" work, but do they contribute anything? No.
You are so clueless what is really going on in Brasil.
I'm happy with the economic boost of this country, since I live here and I can directly gain from this boost, but poor won't get anything. All these things that government is giving to them is just a gimmick. You know, already Roman emperors did the same thing.
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre]For whoever is interested. Here's the scond part of the same documentary covering Carnaval.
Carnaval, for example, is something that wouldn't be posible without people from the favelas.
They're the ones that create the costumes and most of the "escolas de samba" are associated to them.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adqyONH8I-g[/url][/QUOTE]
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Poor rats have no money to sustain themselves, but oh yeah when it comes to making carnaval suits or platforms they can spend MILLIONS of reais. Come on. The whole carnaval is just to keep poor rats quiet. And dumb gringos fall for that bs too.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]By "us", what you mean?
FYI, not all people here are losers whose only mongering experiences are to have imported a favelada wife from Brasil to Europe and to fuck prostitutes in Spain nasty brothels.
There's world class travelers here, interested by new perspectives and unexplored pathes.
Right. I post in the Uzbekistan, Moldova, Georgia, Russia and Romania threads. Can you even locate Uzbekistan on a map BTW ?
And yeah, I mongered throughout Brasil already during the Cruzado era, and I have certainly earned the right to post in the Brasil sections, whether you like it or not.[/QUOTE]No intention to direct this specifically at Prosal, only to say generally: this would be a much more collegial environment if people would sit on their hands (so to speak) if they are feeling especially misanthropic or have had their snout too long or too deep in a vodka bottle. There's so much gray area, why not speak from specific experience and spare the editorializing?
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[QUOTE=Perkele]This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Poor rats have no money to sustain themselves, but oh yeah when it comes to making carnaval suits or platforms they can spend MILLIONS of reais. Come on. The whole carnaval is just to keep poor rats quiet. And dumb gringos fall for that bs too.[/QUOTE]
+1. Anyone with half a brain knows that Rio carnaval is mainly a very very lucrative mafia-controlled business (controlled by the same mafia lords who reign on Jogo do Bicho).
Personally I find Bahia carnaval even more appalling. Blocos are so obviously commercial and segregationist that it is grotesque. Yet there it's the axe industry that rules the event.
[QUOTE=Perkele] The whole carnaval is just to keep poor rats quiet. And dumb gringos fall for that bs too.[/QUOTE]
As is football. Unemployed masses who applaud millionaires.
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So what?
[QUOTE=Prosal]+1. Anyone with half a brain knows that Rio carnaval is mainly a very very lucrative mafia-controlled business (controlled by the same mafia lords who reign on Jogo do Bicho).
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The italian Mafia is also involved in Italian soccer league...and there are Mafias all over the world.
So what?
Happines is the crucial element. Happines is a very elusive thing.
Elusive, mysterious but absolutely needed.
Happiness is like a little feather
The wind has carried up into the air...
But either you're happy (even if it's just for a few hours) or you're unhappy and you feel miserable.
Pick your choice.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp6SPJMdXko[/url]
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre]Happiness is like a little feather
The wind has carried up into the air..[/QUOTE]
You embarrass yourself with your continual silly and pontificating song tirades.
BTW could you explain why you've literally spammed all the FSU threads (incl. Belarus, Moscow, ect, which are 4000 kms away) with info about the Kirghizstan riots ?
At best, you have a really really weird agenda. At worst, you suffer from serious mental disorders.
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A song by Tom Jobim and Vinicius a silly song?
[QUOTE=Prosal]You embarrass yourself with your continual silly songs references.
BTW could you explain why you've spammed all the FSU threads (incl. Belarus, Moscow, ect, which are 4000 kms away) with info about the Kirgistan riots ?
Do you suffer from mental disorders ?[/QUOTE]
Silly songs? A song by Tom Jobim and Vinicius a silly song? Man, you're really an expert on Brazil.
Regards your second question I haven't spammed anything. SPAM is repeating the same post. And these were just three different posts. And they were ralated to the topic.
Uzbekistan is really going up in flames. Definitely the place to go for a quickie!!
É mesmo? É mesmo. A vida como ele é.
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Prices
[QUOTE=Hughdad]I agree that your CIM shot was totally not cool and abusive. Definately lacked class. Have you heard of discussing what you want with the lady before sessioning? If she is not into what you are into, then select another lady. She has a right to do what she wants with her body.
BelPrazer prices have not gone up. I just recommended to a friend (R$60 for 30 min, R$80 for 40 minutes and $100 for 1 hour.) He enjoyed a dupla there for a sepcial of R$160.[/QUOTE]
Its 100 R for the 1 hr session.......however, if you decide to use a credit card, there is an extra fee applied. Forget now how much. Prices have not changed. I know, I was there on friday.
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre]For whoever is interested. Here's the scond part of the same documentary covering Carnaval.
Carnaval, for example, is something that wouldn't be posible without people from the favelas.
They're the ones that create the costumes and most of the "escolas de samba" are associated to them.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adqyONH8I-g[/url][/QUOTE]
Hmmm!! But it would be so much better if the people did not have to live in favelas, or do you think that is essential?
The Rio Carnaval is a great spectacle, but the way it is organized should make nobody proud. A joint venture between local, state and federal government together with the bicheiros, the real mafia.
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Are they any better?
The point is that if something really attracts me to Brazil is precisely that elusive search for happiness.
I don't pretend to have all the answers, but of all the places where I have lived (and I've been around), Brazil still is a very special one. Capable of making you both extremely happy and extremely unhappy...
That Brazil is a bureaucratic disaster? Probably. That Brazilians are nuts and obsessive? Sure. That social differences are huge and offensive? Definitely.
Still I find an energy and beauty in Brazil that I can't find anywhere else. Both in nature and in people.
In the so-called first world we all care too much about our careers and our stiff rules, and we don't even struggle for happiness anymore.
It's just a fake happiness made of symbols and depressing objectives.
What is more, I've known people with a pureness of heart I couldn't find in the first world. Definitely not in Bel Air or Park Avenue ...and I'm not talking about Copa.
Brazil is much bigger than Rio!
Believe me, I have known my share of multimillionaires. From New York to Silicon Valley. But are they happier than those people from the favelas marching on Carnaval for a couple of hours?
Do their lifes have more sense and meaning than a Vinicius de Moraes song?
Are they any better?
Well... I know that Prosal and Perkele have a good answer for that (hey, they look so happy)...
but I dont.
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre]The point is that if something really attracts me to Brazil is precisely that elusive search for happiness.
I don't pretend to have all the answers, but of all the places where I have lived (and I've been around), Brazil still is a very special one. Capable of making you both extremely happy and extremely unhappy...
That Brazil is a bureaucratic disaster? Probably. That Brazilians are nuts and obsessive? Sure. That social differences are huge and offensive? Definitely.
Still I find an energy and beauty in Brazil that I can't find anywhere else. Both in nature and in people.
In the so-called first world we all care too much about our careers and our stiff rules, and we don't even struggle for happiness anymore.
It's just a fake happiness made of symbols and depressing objectives.
What is more, I've known people with a pureness of heart I couldn't find in the first world. Definitely not in Bel Air or Park Avenue ...and I'm not talking about Copa.
Brazil is much bigger than Rio!
Believe me, I have known my share of multimillionaires. From New York to Silicon Valley. But are they happier than those people from the favelas marching on Carnaval for a couple of hours?
Do their lifes have more sense and meaning than a Vinicius de Moraes song?
Are they any better?
Well... I know that Prosal and Perkele have a good answer for that (hey, they look so happy)...
but I dont.[/QUOTE]
You are so clueless.
Brasilians may or may not be happier than anyone else.
For majority life here is eternal struggle without any reason for happiness.
Its easy to see that your contacts are thieves and prostitutes (not trying to say that ho's are bad people), who are "improving" their lives through "rich" gringos.
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Hughdad's mini field report
Hey Hughdad - that was some excellent writing in your recent mini field report! Do you have any background as a writer?
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More at the "Living in Brazil" thread.
[QUOTE=Perkele]You are so clueless.
Its easy to see that your contacts are thieves and prostitutes (not trying to say that ho's are bad people), who are "improving" their lives through "rich" gringos.[/QUOTE]
I'm moving this wonderful discussion to the "Living in Brazil" thread. Since there's a lot of people writing valuable reports about the main topic of this thread (good and fun sex in Rio) and I don't wanna intrude in their space.
By now i have received dozens of PMs of support, thanking me for the posts and one clear message: DON'T MESS WITH THESE PEOPLE! THEY'RE DANGEROUS!
Of course they are talking about PROSAL and PERKELE, the bullies of the forum.
Well.. shouldn't I? But most importantly shouldn't we? It's not their forum.
More at the "Living in Brazil" thread.
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[QUOTE=Jota Erre]More at the "Living in Brazil" thread.[/QUOTE]
Skimmed through it. Ouch. I've rarely seen such rambling nonsense. Really weird, to say the least. Obviously, you should consult ASAP.
To apply the old adage, never argue with a fool, he will drag you down to his level then beat you by experience. Bye.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Who said that there was no warning? Prior to session, we had an agreement on anal and CIM. I bought an hour with this in mind. Then it was the bait and switch in the room, no anal, no CIM.[/QUOTE]So if you were able to negotiate anal and CIM during the very brief Garota introductions as they come in one right after the other and kiss you on the cheek (or worked it all out with her before going up), they you had an understanding. Not sure why she was so shocked and appalled then.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]So busting a clean nut in her mouth per our agreement seems a favor in comparison. I've given her a reason to come back the next day and wait for another like me that will keep her in the lifestyle until one day she wakes up at the age of 40, past her GDP expiration date, and married to some dreg Brasilero who beats her daily because no one else wanted such a used up jaded woman. This is the moral territory that we operate in; live and let live.[/QUOTE]Glad you figured it all out for us here. I was wondering what their only option in life was.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]
... Glad you figured it all out for us here. I was wondering what their only option in life was.[/QUOTE]
That's funny!! I dig your style Hughdad, I'm glad you came back out of ISG retirement. :)
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[QUOTE=Ricker]That's funny!! I dig your style Hughdad, I'm glad you came back out of ISG retirement. :)[/QUOTE]Thanks. I know I come and go, and so on. I actually am very busy building my new business in Brazil and come back here to get info from older PM's from time to time. Then I do a quick glance of posts and there seems to always be something that I want to chime in on.
I find the overall banter here interesting at times. There are lots of bright guys participating here. Some with vast experience in Brazil, far more than I have and I find their opinions about traveling, living, etc. very helpful. It is often the little tips and the insights about the average Brazilian's mindset that I find invaluable.
What I don't really enjoy is when guys simply objectivity the ladies. No, I'm not out to fall in love or looking to overally romantize the experiences with them. But these ladies are human beings, and I personally find I have a more blissful experience with them by treating nicely. But that experience ends when the hour is up, until I may see them again. There are only two GDP's that I maintain contact with on an on-going basis and that is because they are helping me on a (non-sex related) business project. Contrary to what some here say, some of these ladies have other aspiratons and more drive than to take a guys "clean nut in their mouths until they are used up has beens that have no option but to marry a Brazilian guy that beats them every day." These 2 ladies have proven to be quite ambitious and bright. And I certainly have zero use for the guys that feel that R$100 gives them the right to abuse a woman. Those guys have issues.
Like I say the only time I pay for it now is occassionally when I am in Rio or SP without my lady friend for extended periods. And what usually happens is I will find one or two GDPs that I really enjoy (and that also enjoy couples) and will session with them with my lady when I return to Rio with her. I actually don't even pursue anything while in the US. I just find it a real hassle as I have a tight business travel schedule. Brazil has spoiled me in that regard, knowing I am just weeks away from being back.
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Opened a restaurant 2 blocks from 4X4!!!
Just to let you guys know I opened a restaurant 2 blocks from 4X4 on the main street Primero de Marzo. The name of it is Aquarios Grill, open from 11am-5pm. It is a perfect spot to go before you hit 4X4. If you guys do go there, just mention WSG and have a beer on me with your meal! I appreciate your support. I will also really appreciate it if you PM me and tell me about your experience eating there. Thanks.
Viper10
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[QUOTE=Viper10]Just to let you guys know I opened a restaurant 2 blocks from 4X4 on the main street Primero de Marzo. The name of it is Aquarios Grill, open from 11am-5pm. It is a perfect spot to go before you hit 4X4. If you guys do go there, just mention WSG and have a beer on me with your meal! I appreciate your support. I will also really appreciate it if you PM me and tell me about your experience eating there. Thanks.
Viper10[/QUOTE]Can we mention ISG?
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Good luck with you new business
[QUOTE=Viper10]Just to let you guys know I opened a restaurant 2 blocks from 4X4 on the main street Primero de Marzo. The name of it is Aquarios Grill, open from 11am-5pm. It is a perfect spot to go before you hit 4X4. If you guys do go there, just mention WSG and have a beer on me with your meal! I appreciate your support. I will also really appreciate it if you PM me and tell me about your experience eating there. Thanks.
Viper10[/QUOTE]Arriving on the 17th of July. We will visit and sample your menu. Good luck with your new business.
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Weekends too?
[QUOTE=Viper10]Just to let you guys know I opened a restaurant 2 blocks from 4X4 on the main street Primero de Marzo. The name of it is Aquarios Grill, open from 11am-5pm.
Viper10[/QUOTE]
Can we come in any day of the week, or are you closed on Saturdays or Sundays?
I'll be mongering Centro this Saturday afternoon, then heading off to VM for the evening. Anyone interested in an ISG get-together at this man's new establishment?
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Can we come in any day of the week, or are you closed on Saturdays or Sundays?
I'll be mongering Centro this Saturday afternoon, then heading off to VM for the evening. Anyone interested in an ISG get-together at this man's new establishment?[/QUOTE]I think Prosal and Hughdad should get together there and settle their differences with a drinking contest LOL
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Can we come in any day of the week, or are you closed on Saturdays or Sundays?
I'll be mongering Centro this Saturday afternoon, then heading off to VM for the evening. Anyone interested in an ISG get-together at this man's new establishment?[/QUOTE]I guess anyone considering going should get an agreement in place as to CIM first (joking).
Get togethers amongst members of this board never seemed to actually materialize. I had guys PM me in the past and suggest having beers, or venturing to some new places, but they never follow through. End of the day, I actually like the freedom of exploring on my own. I tend not to venture out incapacitated or into unknown areas.
I have struck up conversations with a few groups of guys at a bar and a club and we partied together. But they were newbies and I actually was able to show them some new places during the course of the evening. But inevitably, one member of the group ends up being an asshole and I have no desire to be associated with that.
Good luck with the restaurant! I'll check it out in 3 or 4 weeks.
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[QUOTE=Manute Bol]I think Prosal and Hughdad should get together there and settle their differences with a drinking contest LOL[/QUOTE]C'mon, Prosal wouldn't go anywhere that doesn't have a roped off VIP section. He needs to be able to flash the cash. He is also very busy entertaining us with his witty responses to Jota Erra. (Plus I think he doesn't step foot in Brazil anymore, he just bashes it from afar.)
I, however, can have a great time anywhere. I'll check out the restaurant. Ain't much of a drinker though.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]I guess anyone considering going should get an agreement in place as to CIM first (joking).
Get togethers amongst members of this board never seemed to actually materialize. I had guys PM me in the past and suggest having beers, or venturing to some new places, but they never follow through. End of the day, I actually like the freedom of exploring on my own. I tend not to venture out incapacitated or into unknown areas.
I have struck up conversations with a few groups of guys at a bar and a club and we partied together. But they were newbies and I actually was able to show them some new places during the course of the evening. But inevitably, one member of the group ends up being an asshole and I have no desire to be associated with that.
Good luck with the restaurant! I'll check it out in 3 or 4 weeks.[/QUOTE]Its always risk hanging with people you never met, They can be chronic drunks and start fights for no reason and what are you suppossed to fight for them? Best thing to do is just keep to yourself because even bringing friends can backfire if you have to babysit for them.
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First night
On my way to SP, I wanted to buy a Brasil futbol shirt. Where do you get them? "Everywhere" was the answer. (Also stopped by Clinica Kin in SP and had a great time with Caca; see my report in that thread).
I have RTFF and know some places to go, but wondered how this scene would compare to the more familiar Sukhumvit Rd in Bangkok. Where does one find the girls here? It's the same answer: "everywhere". If you're a single man walking down Avenida Atlantica in the evening (maybe all day?), they will find YOU. Maybe not as many as on Sukhumvit, which gets pretty crowded with ladies.
I went to Mab's for a bit of dinner, and sat on the patio. Two middle-aged ladies were smiling at me, obviously waiting for me to invite them over, which I did. I really didn't know, at first (maybe they just LIKE me? that's why my name is Naive), that they were on the game, but it became pretty obvious as we talked. I took a pass this time.
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[QUOTE=Steve Naive]On my way to SP, I wanted to buy a Brasil futbol shirt. Where do you get them? "Everywhere" was the answer.[/QUOTE]Steve Naive,
One of the best place to buy T-shirts in SP is in the district of Pinheiros on Teodoro Sampaio. On Teodoro Sampaio you have to go against the trafic (a contramão) i.e. in the direction of the rio Pinheiros (and Butantã). There's a lot of clothes stores (not expensive) between Henrique Schaumann and rio Pinheiros.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]C'mon, Prosal wouldn't go anywhere that doesn't have a roped off VIP section. I, however, Ain't much of a drinker though.[/QUOTE]Well, admittedly, we wouldn't mesh well. I am myself a thirsty and late-to-bed party-goer,which is BTW one of the reasons with I hit it off with Russian girls, who inevitably all drink like Cossacks and like to have absolutely wild parties (and enjoy the company of similarly like-mind men).
To bad indeed. ;)
And concerning the VIP sections, if you ever find yourself 150km from Tbilisi into eastern Georgia, near the Dagestan frontier, in a wonderful small town named Sighnagi, check out if you find any of that. And when you'll be there (if you have enough balls to travel to "deep" Caucasus) you might say Natalya, a chechen-ethnic drop dead beauty who works at the reception of a small and modest hotel, a tender hello from Prosal. :)
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I understand
[QUOTE=Prosal]Well, admittedly, we wouldn't mesh well. I am myself a thirsty and late-to-bed party-goer,which is BTW one of the reasons with I hit it off with Russian girls, who inevitably all drink like Cossacks and like to have absolutely wild parties (and enjoy the company of similarly like-mind men).
To bad indeed. ;)
And concerning the VIP sections, if you ever find yourself 150km from Tbilisi into eastern Georgia, near the Dagestan frontier, in a wonderful small town named Sighnagi, check out if you find any of that. And when you'll be there (if you have enough balls to travel to "deep" Caucasus) you might say Natalya, a chechen-ethnic drop dead beauty who works at the reception of a small and modest hotel, a tender hello from Prosal. :)[/QUOTE]You need women to be good and drunk to get them to bang you. Perfectly understandable.
But you are right, we wouldn't mesh well. I am not a pretentious douche bag that needs to travel the world flashing cash pretending to be someone I am not trying to impress ladies. I can use my with, charm, personality, appearance, and humor.
Thanks for the neat geography lesson though. Oh, yeah, speaking of having enough balls. If you ever do have enough balls to come back to Brazil (land of the GDP that fleeced you and broke your heart) be sure to let me know in advance. I will be glad to buy you a beer, lean down so I can look you in the eye, and have a real conversation.
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In search for a readhead
Hello,
from reading this forum I got many interesting information for my upcoming trip to Rio. Just one thing I did not find on the websites of the escort agencies: girls with red hairs - is this colour of hair that rare in Rio?
Also there is very few information on the striptease shows, which bar has the best shows and the price. Sometimes I like to watch a good erotic show. There are rumors that in some of the wilder places the guests are invited to take part as well - is this really true?
I will be in Rio the first week in July, if anyone wants to meet or share an apartment.
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Second night
Yes, I'm a naive newbie in Rio. I have plenty of experience in Asia, but only one experience so far in Brazil (reported recently in SP thread).
As I reported in First Night, I met two ladies, neither young nor thin, but not bad looking, at Mab's. I took the phone number of one who spoke English.
When I called her tonight, I asked her price, and she said R$250! (I don't know if that was for an hour or a night). But I had a beautiful young lady for an hour in SP for R$140, and by RTFF, I think I can do much better.
So why would she ask so much? Well, she knew it was my first time in Rio, and she speaks English. Each of those might prompt her to jack up the price.
With such a high asking price, I didn't even try to negotiate, just said goodbye. My name may be Naive, but I'm not THAT naive. I'll go see what's available in the bars or on the street.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]land of the GDP that fleeced you and broke your heart[/QUOTE]
Stupidly insulting other posters is not flattering. Honestly, this kind of slanderous BS statement is really pathetic.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]I am not a pretentious douche bag that needs to travel the world flashing cash. You need women to be good and drunk to get them to bang you[/QUOTE]
No. Still slanderous controversial and insulting nonsense. And just to cut your BS : [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=438893&postcount=537[/url]
And what about you and your allegedly "charm, personality, appearance, and humor" ? ..who knows you? .. you can say that you really are what you say you are? .... with which ISG brother-in-arms have you been chasing in clubs? .... have you any prove that you are the killer that you pretend to be?
You seem, on the contrary, to be a rather angry, frustrated and stingy person without any sense of humour. A turn-off for women.
A lesson for you : it's no surprise that girls want to go where the fun is. Cyndi Lauper said it best "Girls just wanna have fun". So do I. Time and time again I have discovered that when it comes to party, "more money = more fun= more girls". This doesn't mean spending money on girls automatically gets you laid and it certainly doesn't mean you should throw money around. Girls (and especially in FSU) aren't so much attracted to money as much as they are to the fun that money generates. That's why, when I go out to party, I always take more money with me than I expect to spend and don't regret it when I do. I might not be rich, but I'm rich in girl stories.
And FYI no prostitute ever fleeced me and broke my heart, you insulting, angry and resentful loser you.
And I monger in areas here you wouldn't dare to venture, you coward.
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Red heads
[QUOTE=Kopeke]Hello, from reading this forum I got many interesting information for my upcoming trip to Rio. Just one thing I did not find on the websites of the escort agencies: girls with red hairs - is this colour of hair that rare in Rio?
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Red heads are rare but not unheard of. Try Emily Brito, R$120. She does it all and is conveniently located in Copacabana near Posto 5. [url]http://www.amantesecia.com.br/veranuncio.php?anuncio=Emilly Brito[/url]
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[QUOTE=Prosal]You might say Natalya, a chechen-ethnic drop dead beauty who works at the reception of a small and modest hotel, a tender hello from Prosal. :)[/QUOTE]If hitting on girls while they are at work, trying to earn an honest wage at their jobs is your style, that's a great strategy: They have to be nice / polite to their customers. Show the way, Prosal!
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Puta Playa Field Report Part 1
Hello all, a few days ago I think someone asked for a trip report with sex info and maybe a few pictures of garotas. Is it still okay to post that kind of stuff too? Here's my effort:
I just arrived today. First, my flight was supposed to arrive early in the morning. Unfortunately there was too much fog in Rio and we couldn't land, then had to divert to Campinas and wait for the weather to clear..so this took 4 hours of my time and I couldn't even monger until 3 pm, nevertheless I made the best of it and managed to session 4 before midnight. Here are my findings.
I am staying in Centro. I hit the street at about 3 pm to check BA85 and Rio Branco 156 sala 1526, which I understand is a new casa with only 2 rooms, but those 2 rooms are occupied by former Flavia Massagems garotas Carla and Duda who are known for GFE anal. When I got to BA85 at about 3 pm, it was a sausage fest with about 7 guys and 3 girls, so I left right away. When to RB 156 at 3:30, the whole building was closed.
So then I ventured over to Rio Branco 185 at about 4, to hit sala 725 which gets good reports on GPguia for Deborah, Melena, and Belina who are all supposed to be anal with CIM. The gate to building 185 was closed and it was all dark inside, but the metal door in the gate was open so I went in. I went to the elevator and told the elevator man 7th floor..then he asked me if I was going to get some pussy. I said sim and laughed and he kept talking about how much pussy was on that floor. Very funny. I like this about Brasilian guys, this discussion would never happen in the States.
I arrived at Sala 725 and rang the buzzer and Deborah answered. She was the only girl there, maybe a 7. I decided my choices in Centro were slim unless I wanted to go get ripped off at 4x4, so I sessioned her. She gave the nasty spit-dripping BBBJ that I believe was reported on GPguia, but it was halting and she never went deep. No DFK or pics either. I flipped her back and ate her pussy and her asshole to BFE her up a bit into a better mood, hopefully, then tried to get her to suck some more, but at that point she said she has a sore throat or cold or something (I had heard her cough, didn't sound good) and wanted to do CBJ, err..no. It does nothing for me. So we fucked and that was about the end of it. The centro apartments are so unpredictable, I have mixed feelings. Sometimes you get a garota that is crazy, and then other times you get one that wants to cover everything..and the same thing in the termas. Maybe it's just the trend in Rio, towards more and more latex.
I decided that I needed more options, so VM was my destination. I had never been there before, but have seen several here speak ill of it e.g. it's Fallujah/Blackhawk Down, digusting, low class. I've mongered North Jakarta and Mexico (not TJ Diego), so I figured nothing could be shocking. I was right, I really like the place!
I rode the Metro from Uruguania to Sao Cristavao and found that the Metro maps are wrong, you do not transfer at Cental..it's Estaciao. So I arrived at SC station and came out, then saw the walking bridge to the right that was apparent from Sperto's Google Map. This gave me confidence about being on the correct side of the station. I began to walk down the ramp and along the road..if you see a bridge that is illuminated with green light, you have gone too far! Just leave the station, look to your right and you should see a walking bridge over the road and tracks below. Then go down the ramp or steps and walk on the narrow sidewalk. Walk a while. It's all fenced beside you until the entrance to VM. The first time you can turn left without walking into a fence, do so, and you will be on the road back to VM.
So, VM was great. A meat market. I arrived just after dark, about 6:30. Many, many, many people. It was hopping and had a big party atmosphere. Other than Tobita Shinchi in Osaka, I don't think I've seen so many girls in one neighborhood RLD. There was a lot of blasting funk music from everywhere, mixed with techno, and R&B from various other bars. I cruised around for a while and saw a garota that looked lonely, but hot..a solid 8 and I could go a little further. She wasn't doing all the ass-shaking, or having her tits out like some other girls in the area, so I sat down beside her and tried out my Porto. She spoke a little English. She agreed to some photos and the first ass in my photos thread post, linked below, is her ass. She was relatively GFE, with DFK, BBBJ for a while, I ate her pussy and asshole and fucked her. It was a nice session.
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So then I went down and got a liter of Itapavia for R$3 and a stick of churrascaro for the same price, to replentish. Then later I took the second and third garotas that are shown in my picture post, but they weren't GFE and were not wanting to kiss, or to be eaten. But at least they started BBBJ, allowed photos and gave a good fuck.
I found that the price varies, from $27-$35 for 30 minutes. Most places want the money up front and you pay at the bar, the first one didn't want the money until after, and still you pay at the bar. The girls seem to be free range and move from bar to bar, reminds me of Blok M in Jakarta except in VM it's more expensive and you fuck them where you find them. The girl who I sessioned for $27 was given $20 at the bar, so the girls seem to get a good cut of the money. Not that I care, but I've always wondered why they sell their bodies cheap when so much is at risk. I thought they got only, 50%, or so.
VM was interesting. There were all types of people and GP's there. There were about 12 gems by 9 pm. I didn't get to fuck them because I waited too long. Maybe 15% of the total girls were of the quality that you'd find at the Copa termas and any of those are good enough for me. As for our half, I saw guys in suits and ties, an old man in a Superman costume, favelados in tanktops and havanaias, and even a midget guy that the garotas just loved and made a big deal about. They rubbed his dick through his pants in the street until he was walking with a flagpole. LOL. You can get a tattoo there, right in the filth, garotas can buy their GP clothes and lubes from the vendors, there is cheap food and beer, everything is there. So don't listen to all the people who naysay about how it's so bad; it's easy compared with other places you might monger or will monger. All that's needed is money and a basic knowledge of numbers in Portuguese. The only thing that required porto was getting the photos and getting BBBJ. Otherwise, I only used it for fun and practice.
Sorry for any and all typos and poor grammar or bad usage of Portuguese terms..I am tired! I have to go elsewhere for a week, but I'll be back in Rio posting more field reports late next week.
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This Redhead's for You!
[QUOTE=Kopeke]Hello,
from reading this forum I got many interesting information for my upcoming trip to Rio. Just one thing I did not find on the websites of the escort agencies: girls with red hairs - is this colour of hair that rare in Rio?
Also there is very few information on the striptease shows, which bar has the best shows and the price. Sometimes I like to watch a good erotic show. There are rumors that in some of the wilder places the guests are invited to take part as well - is this really true?
I will be in Rio the first week in July, if anyone wants to meet or share an apartment.[/QUOTE]
Bia at L'uomo. Get there early since she is pretty popular and you might not see her around much later in the evening.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Bia at L'uomo...[/QUOTE]
I totally quote !
One of the best looking, provider, sexy girl at L'uomo !
And she dances so good too....
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]I totally quote !
One of the best looking, provider, sexy girl at L'uomo !
And she dances so good too....[/QUOTE]
Nice girl as Bia is....she is a "bottle" redhead....although there is nothing "down there" to make comparisons....
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Picky, Picky, Picky
[QUOTE=July Gan]Nice girl as Bia is....she is a "bottle" redhead....although there is nothing "down there" to make comparisons....[/QUOTE]
Is this what one has to look forward to once one gets to be an old fart? I don't think after he has seen her "dance" he is going to care all that much!
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[QUOTE=July Gan]Nice girl as Bia is....she is a "bottle" redhead....although there is nothing "down there" to make comparisons....[/QUOTE]
Well 6 months ago surely not, now I have no idea how she looks like....but World would be nicer if there were more women as her....imho.
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More on Aquarios Grill!!
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Can we mention ISG?[/QUOTE]
Yes, sorry guys that's what I meant, ISG. Restaurant right now is open Monday to Saturday, but I am thinking about closing on Saturdays. We are having grand opening "month" starting this week, where our prices have been dropped by 30%. The restaurant is the typical lunch food, pay per kilo. I am trying to have very high quality food, and recent reviews have been good. I would greatly appreciate any comments on food, service, pricing, ANYTHING!! Remember restaurant is 2 blocks from 4X4, on Primero de Marzo. Thanks.
Viper10
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Not Getting It
There have been many reports of guys not receiving services agreed upon or being duped by the switch-a-roo and still paying full fare or offering at least taxi money. I'm not that type of guy.
I just left 85. I swear by that place but today I had the worst service ever. I went up to the second floor and saw that they now have air conditioning in the boite. As I was standing there seeing what I could see a friend who I have not seen in quite a while walked in. He said he was coming from the upstairs floors and there was nothing to his liking. He said the quality was going down. I know we have different tastes, but I had not yet gotten past the second floor to check for myself. As we were talking the best thing that I have ever seen on that floor came from the back room. I excused myself from my friend and immediately told her lets go.
I paid for 15 minutes. We went to the back and I got undressed. She didn't remove anything. She put the condom on for me and gave me a couple of licks. She took off her bottom, went flat on her back, and wet herself with her saliva. I got on top of her and pulled one of her tits out. When I tried to pull the other out she questioned me about it. She said, "Why do you need to see it? They are both the same." Wow. She held my dick with her hand the entire time that I was trying to fuck her. In addition she was there sans emotion. I thought I was back on Calle 18 in Guayaquil.
I had her flip over to doggy but for some reason that was not working out. So I had her back to the original position. When I tried to lift her leg up she stopped me. I asked her what the problem was. She said she had just gotten her clit pierced. I thought to myself, "Well why the hell is she working if she is not fit to work?" Finally I had had enough and got up and told her I was leaving. I got dressed and went to the boite.
I looked for the bar lady who had taken my money. I complained to her, telling her everything that had happened. She went to the back for a brief moment to talk to the girl. She came back to the front and gave me all of my money back.
I went up to the third floor where I didn't see anything I liked. Then I went back to the first floor where I usually session. My friend was right. The quality is going down. I proceeded around the corner to 13 where I paid R$22 and received stellar service from the first person who I saw when I walked in the door. I should have better luck tonight at VM than I had at 85 today.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Is this what one has to look forward to once one gets to be an old fart? I don't think after he has seen her "dance" he is going to care all that much![/QUOTE]
No kidding. Seeing Bia and Pietra and the crew go at it to funk do Brasil is something. Nothing like it on the planet that I know of. Of course, you were using the term "dance" more generically, which is also apt.
Big fires Saturday night in the woods over Lagoa. But it was a glorious day in Copacabana for the outdoor showing of Brasil-Costa Marfim. The excellent talent was on display everywhere. And I don't mean football. The smoke seems to be hanging around causing colorful sunrises and sunsets and now, winter is back.
I managed to lure a part timer over for the evening. She wanted to bring her friend for a festa, but I vetoed that. Good thing because she drank everything in the house, stayed up all night and I had to urge her to go home at 10:00 AM. What a chick. Two like that would have been a challenge, but one was just right.
Oh, well, as I have said, I like it when it is slow.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]As we were talking the best thing that I have ever seen on that floor came from the back room. I excused myself from my friend and immediately told her lets go.[/QUOTE]Don't mean to pick on you but the way that's phrased makes it sound like she had just worked a session. Or is the back room just a hang out spot for the girls? Maybe she didn't want to work another customer right away? Maybe the guy before you pissed her off in some way and she took it out on you? I haven't been to these kinds of places so I'm not familiar with the deal but I prefer the termas even with the recent price inflation, as it's less of an assembly-line "sex factory" and you can hang out with the girl and try to build rapport, see if at least she doesn't dislike you. Of course, there's no guarantees in the termas either, and a mistake there can be very expensive whereas in your case, you even got your money back.
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Floor 2 BA 85
I posted a trip report with a warning about floor 2 of BA 85, but it got deleted or I had it deleted as it was informative and, thus, caused the usual flame war with the guys who believe they own this board.
Anyway, I want to again warn gringos that floor 2 of BA 85 is becoming suspect. I have had various guys tell me they have gotten bad service. I myself have not gotten back my change from the cashier or gotten incorrect change.
I will be back in Rio soon and to be honest I am not going back to BA 85. Two years ago when I was one of the few guys to regularly report about BA85 it was cool. Now almost every report on here mentions "swung by BA 85," at the least.
I think it is time to move on. To be honest, my plan is to take advantage of all the emphasis on centro to find deals in Copa again.
There is always an influx of new talent in Copa.
I am going to go old school on you! Mabs, walking down Atlantic Ave, etc., to see what I can find.
If you respond to this post it would be nice if you just begin a reply with my name or SS. Too many dudes on here use quotes. I can understand if you are quoting a guy 5 pages back but damn, on here it is like the next post and you see a damn long ass quote box!
SS
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VM part 1
After the non-pro left yesterday I took a nap. I was supposed to meet the friend who I saw in BA 85 at the Balcony. However, I sent him a text at 10pm but he said he was going to take it to sleep because he had been out all day and he had school the next morning. Good. I didn't really want to go to Balcony anyway. VM is where I wanted to go. So at 11pm I hopped the 455 headed to VM.
I am used to being there when it is crowded on weekend nights. It was good and clear on a Monday night. There was not much competition around so I could take my time and choose any girl I wanted. My first victim was a blond spinner named Fernanda. R$28 for 15 minutes. She was great. Nice CBJ with my new Crown condoms (US$18 - 100 pack) thanks to Brazil Specialist's recommendation. We tried all the basic positions. I was really enjoying her moaning and sound effects. She kept it up for the entire 15 minutes.
She told me she wanted me to cum. I told her that I didn't want to. I just wanted to feel the inside of her. Besides, I had planned to partake in more action directly after so I didn't want to blow my load. Of course I had the stopwatch going to make sure I got every second of my 15 minutes. Right at the 15 mark Tio came up and called time. I got off of her, got dressed, thanked her, and I hit the alley once again.
The next patient turned out to be Lana. She was quite a treat and turned out to be one of the best GFEs that I have ever had. TLN R$100. She reminded me of what Rio used to be like. Full Report tomorrow.
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About VM
Mr.
I am a carioca, living in Rio for a lifetime.
I knew the "old" mimose vile, but had never went to this new version.
Got ther by bus afte 11 pm alone?! Courage, man!
I need to clap you. I would never try to do this.
I recently got a chick on Balcony: Kamila.
She is a brunette with big boobs.
Started asking for BR 300, and we make a deal for BR150.
(plus some lunch at balcony, of course).
She is recommended.
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[QUOTE=Brazil Rio]Mr.
I am a carioca, living in Rio for a lifetime.
I knew the "old" mimose vile, but had never went to this new version.
Got ther by bus afte 11 pm alone?! Courage, man!
I need to clap you. I would never try to do this.
I recently got a chick on Balcony: Kamila.
She is a brunette with big boobs.
Started asking for BR 300, and we make a deal for BR150.
(plus some lunch at balcony, of course).
She is recommended.[/QUOTE]
You're brazilian? Just out of curiosity, why does a brazilian or any carioca at all, pick up a GP at a gringo-trap like Balcony where the quality is low and the prices are high?
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Why Balcony
I like balcony.
We are orfans after the Help disco's end.
Balcony is a nice open bar, not a termas, and it is different from the concept of other bars in Copa like "meia pataca" (near Othon) where we can pick up a chick.
I think the major difference is the location, a little bit out of the working girls area (mostly near othon/old help or Prado Júnior street), and mostly, the owner that is very concerned and is there all the time. Thw owner is a gringo (USA, I think).
About the prices: it is true that most of the girls that go there work in another places like downtown termas and practice different prices, according to the gringos. But even like this, the prices are better than places like Cicciolina, Barbarella, Erotica or whatever (int his "traps", like you told, you will pay to go out with a girl! And the drinks are crazily expensives.
I use to go there (Balcony) during the day/early in the evening, just to drink and see the panoram. If I find something worthful, like in this case, I take the chance. It is a nice place to practice my english skills either.
But you are correct in some way, I know some cheper places with same or better quality. Most of them in downtown (I don't like VM or BA 85).
Good hunting, guys!
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VM part 2 - The GFE
when i finished with the spinner i went to look for something thick and delicious. i first noticed a chick with a short black dress at the entrance of the u-shaped alley. again i wanted to make a round to see if i could find something better. i saw a couple more that i liked but i decided to double back to get a closer look at the first one. as i approached from behind she got off of her perch, made a left, and walked down the street. i took her old position and watched her the entire time. she came back my way, passed me, and kept walking. i decided to make one more round and followed her around the u. earlier, i had seen one with big hips who was giving me a crocodile smile and i wanted to check her out. the one who i was following behind stopped right in front of the other girl's casa. right then i said something to her.
i asked her where she was going. she said that she was going to florida bar and she invited me to go with her. right now it was well after midnight. i remembered how guys in the forum were saying how florida is sometimes hit or miss depending upon if a ship is in or not. so i told her that i didn’t think anything would be going on at florida at this time. she informed me that it would be fine because a ship had come in. cool, i thought. but i was ready to fuck right then and there so i asked her where she worked. she led me to casa 20. i told her that i was ready to go upstairs with her. she said that she would rather go to my place. this took me for a loop. usually i am the one who has to ask them to come back.
i told her that i would rather just do it on-site and asked how much it would cost. she said 54 reais. what the fuck? i asked if she was kidding. she said no. all the other spots are dirty so they are cheaper. her place is clean so they charge more. i told her that we might as well go to my place then. from that point it seemed as if she was interviewing me when i was supposed to be interviewing her. she asked if i was caring, if i did drugs, if i was crazy. then she started asking me about my plans for the next day. she ran down a list of things in rio that we could do together. everything she mentioned i told her that i had done it already. so she asked did i just want her to go home the next morning after she woke up. i said no. you can wake up, then we can fuck, then you can go home.
i asked her how much but she would not give me a price. she made me tell her first. well gentlemen, you already know that my target rate for tln is r$100, so that is exactly what came out of my mouth. she told me no and to come up with another offer. i told her that 100 was my only offer. she asked me if i would give her taxi money with that. i told her no. she can take the bus just like i do and just like we will do if we leave together. she said that she lives in the first town (forgot the name) past recreio and she doesn’t like to take the bus. so, not my problem. are you with me or not? she said no but she continued to stand there looking at me and me looking back at her. then she asked if i would wait there until she got her clothes.
she came back 5 minutes later looking like a regular woman instead of a sex worker. thank goodness. we made a left turn out of the u alley onto the street headed for the bus stop. she asked me why we didn’t make a right instead because that way is better. i told her it wasn’t and that i always go this way. when we got to the main road, which is somewhat of a drag strip, she wanted to take the foot bridge across. i said nope. i’ll take care of you crossing. she told me that i was fucking crazy. the bus arrived 3 minutes after we made it to the stop. i gave the driver r$5 for the both of us and he gave me 30 centavos change. we sat together and she laid her head on my shoulder like we had been dating for quite some time.
she asked if i had milk at my place. i told her that i didn’t even have water. i had not had a chance to go to the store earlier. i told her that we could stop at a store if one was open. we stopped at the 24 hour pao de acucar in copacabana. she said that she likes to drink hot chocolate before she goes to bed and when she wakes up. she went on nonchalantly about how we could go to the bakery in the morning for fresh bread. it was like we were husband and wife out on a late night grocery run. we bought milk, nescau, yogurt, water, and trident gum. it was a little over r$12.
when we got back to the apartment she went to take a shower then i went after her. when i came out she inquired about the flat screen tv that was on the wall and inferred something about me trying to get her to watch pornos. i told her as a matter of fact i did have one, and let her have a peek at the jake steed boo-yow #2: big, brown, bomb, booty, brazilian b!tches dvd that i never remove from my dvd wallet. she spotted the sonhos roubados dvd on top of the player and asked if we could watch it. we cuddled up in the bed and watched the movie. in the back of my mind i was thinking that it was kind of weird to be watching a movie about hookers with a hooker, but i was in my personal paradise. she asked me when i noticed her because she didn't see me before i started talking to her. i told her that i had my eye on her the whole time and she could not see me because i was in stealth mode.
after the movie was over she started giving me slow head. then she suddenly stopped. i asked her what was wrong. did she not like it? she said she loved it and started back again. i got up and grabbed my toys and went to town on her. after all was said and done we went off to sleep about 4am.
she woke me about 11am with a cup of hot chocolate in the bed. we drank and talked for a while. when i finished my cup i went over to the computer to check my email. there were a couple of non-pros who i was supposed to call that morning and afternoon was already approaching. then again i was happy with the bird that was already in my hand. damn those who were waiting in the bush. i started replying to an email sent to me by one of my wingmen who is in thailand right now.
i looked over and she was putting her panties on. “daht, daht, daht” is what came from my mouth. “tira!” she said well you are over there on the computer. damn the computer. i was ready to fuck some more. i approached her and she told me that she wanted me to put in the porno dvd that i showed her last night. i told her that i knew most of the girls in it because they worked copacabana when i first started coming to brazil. as we watched the movie we began to take care of our own business.
when we finished i went back to the computer. she asked if she could check her orkut and if i had orkut. i told her i had it but i never use it. she added me to hers and saw that i don’t even have a picture posted on it and i only have a few friends. she showed me a profile of another girl who works vm with her. she said that girl is just finishing up tourism school this week. when we finished with orkut she got ready to go. when she came out of the shower i had 2 50 real bills on the bed for her.
she got dressed and i walked her to the door. i told her to take the nescau and the yogurt with her because i was not going to use it. before we got to the door i told her that i had one more question. “how much do you make in vila mimosa?” she said r$600! “r$500 if i am lazy that day. and one time it was raining i only made r$300.” what the fuck? she said she only goes there one day a week because she works at embratel and herbalife (she had all her things packed in her herbalife bag) as well. she says her mom and dad do not know that she works at vm. then she asked me if i could give her money for the bus because they would not change a 50. i went and found all the coins i had and gave them to her. she took out r$2.35 and gave the rest back to me. we kissed on the cheek and she left.
i think i have found my new go-to-girl in rio. this evolution reminded me of how it used to be when i first started going there. r$100 would get you tln and you would literally have to kick the girls out the next day when you wanted them to leave. they would come, cook, and do all kind of tourism stuff with you and everything. in those days there was service with a smile. now they are all about the money. those balcony assholes want r$300 to go back to your place, fuck you one time, and leave. the gfe has become a lost art in brazil. that and how expensive everything has become has made me choose pattaya, thailand as my number 1 mongering destination for right now and probably for a long time to come.
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Mr. E's VM part 2 report
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational] This evolution reminded me of how it used to be when I first started going there. R$100 would get you TLN and you would literally have to kick the girls out the next day when you wanted them to leave. They would come, cook, and do all kind of tourism stuff with you and everything. In those days there was service with a smile. The GFE has become a lost art in Brazil. That and how expensive everything has become has made me choose Pattaya, Thailand as my number 1 mongering destination for right now and probably for a long time to come.[/QUOTE]What an informative report. Paints a very interesting and vivid story.
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]So i got the fetsa going today, Gonna write all this while its fresh in
my head. Darelne arranged for her and her friend Brenda to come to my
apartment. They were a little bit late and when they arrived I was abit shocked at the size difference, but not complaining.
Darlene is around 5f 2" and brenda is going on 6f, and wide man, That ass was big and wide!! After all the introductions, I offered drinks, and Brenda spoke some english and replied with beer and then shower! She seemed quite assertive, with no make up and looked tired.
Darelne and I got aquainted again, and Brenda showered. Darlene went and showered and in came Brenda. We got it on and I noticed she wasn't the most beautiful smelling down there, which kinda put me off from the getgo. Her head game was good and then in came Darlene.
Brenda was a good fuck, pussy and ass, I was expecting some lesbian action, but Brenda was a NO straight away. I thought I might try and and get some pictures, but Brenda was a No. Darlene could tell I thought Brenda was abit hard faced and tried to make every situation better. Basically Brenda very mechanical, against Darlene just loving to party.
1 good hour of fucking, and Brenda goes to shower, I asked Darlene for some snaps and and she said sure and put her finger against her mouth and shusss'd and pointed at the bathroom. Only managed to get two pics before Brenda came back out. I felt Brenda was kinda running the situation.
I wanted 2 pops but Brenda was obviously an 'in and out kinda girl' and was having none of it. The session with Darlene last time was slow and relaxed, and lated 3+ hours with her not really wanting to leave.
Anyway another good session with Darlene while Brenda groped us both. To finish, me on my back with both of them on all fours while they are blowing me. While i grabbing their asses.
Darlene is so petite up to this giant, that all I can think!
I told Darlene I was gonna come but she went faster and faster and was suprised when she got a mouthall. Lost in translation I suppose! She laughed it off and made good, of a good sitiation (for me).
To Conclude:
Pornstars, Ok, alot of peoples fantasies, but if you look around you can get the same fullfillment at alot less price and there are thousands of girls out there with the same booties and bodies as these women. They look alot better in the films, and all that!
I've had amazing duplas at Eden, Bangkok, for a fraction of the price, so this was not that speical. but you don't get that booty over their I suppose!!
Tried some covert snaps with my phone and will post them at a later date.
Brenda works from an apartment and quoted me 200 reals for a session!! Bless her.
Quote:: is next off the Rio, at Rua Senador Dantas, 117 Phone No.76******
My third week will be trying out the online escorts.
Rio is expensive with the exchange rate, so hunt and seek, and yee shall find!!
Learn Porto!![/QUOTE]
KK,
Please post the Darlene pics my brother.
Brugal
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[QUOTE=Brugal8]KK,
Please post the Darlene pics my brother.
Brugal[/QUOTE]
Fifth request to post pics of Darlene?
Whats up dude??? You can just look on google if you want to see the chick!! She's a porn star remember?
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Darlene
[QUOTE=Brugal8]KK,
Please post the Darlene pics my brother.
Brugal[/QUOTE]
If your mailbox were not full you would have a link to her pics by now.
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Tchau Rio (at least for now)
I got back a while ago from a South America trip in which neither Brazil nor mongering were the primary focus. My main focus was visiting some of the islands lying offshore from SA. I managed to visit Tierra del Fuego, Falkland Islands, Fernando de Noronha. I was unable to visit Robinson Crusoe Island because it was devastated by tsunami following the Chilean earthquake. I mongered in Santiago (pfffffft....just not a good city for mongering) and Buenos Aires. My last stop was Rio, where I spent just 2 days, visiting L'uomo once. I sessioned for an hour in a suite with Lisa, a gorgeous brunette, highly skilled, did everything I requested except CIM. She unfortunately has silicone breasts, a real turnoff for me. She offered me anal and even took a rather noisy dump in my presence in preparation for the event. I politely declined the offer, since this wasn't exactly a turn on. Lisa was quite experienced, has worked in Barcelona and Italy, speaks Spanish and Italian, so I can recommend her. Just find a tactful way, if there is one, to ask her if she has evacuated her bowels before the session. I just reviewed my credit card statements. The total cost, including a chica drink and the entry fee, was US$237.22.
Prior to coming to Rio I spent 4 days in Buenos Aires. I hadn't planned this, but I had to fill in the days I had planned to be on Robinson Crusoe Island. I found a private apartment named Gysell's from Argentina Private. Gysell even has her own website. I contacted Gysell's beforehand, told them my preferences, and that had what they thought would be the perfect match for me. They were right. I went there 3 days in a row: 1st day, 2 hours with a chica, cost 400 Argentine pesos; 2nd day, 2 hours with a different chica, 400 Argentine pesos; 3rd day, 3 hours with a different chica, 600 Argentine pesos. Total for 3 days: 7 hours with 3 chicas, total 1400 Argentine pesos, or US$356.87. I have a full report on Argentine Private if you're interested. As far as lodging goes, to cite just two examples, the Sheraton Towers in Rio now costs nearly US$200 a night and is far away from the action. The Sheraton Libertador in BA costs US$86 a night (before taxes) and is right in the center of downtown.
So what is my point? Simply this: Rio is pricing itself out of the market. Which is a better deal, one hour at US$220 (I'm subtracting what I estimate is the cost of the chica drink) or 7 hours at US$357, or US$51 per hour? If that isn't a no brainer, I don't know what is.
I have been to BA before and I have never been able to warm to that city before. Although it is more cosmopolitan and sophisticated than Rio, it has nothing of Rio's charm or beauty, so I have never really thought of substituting BA for Rio as my prime marketing venue. However, since Rio started becoming really expensive a few years ago, I have been looking for some other city to replace it, but everything else came up short. In some ways, BA still does. In Rio I know where to stay, where to eat, and where to get pussy. In BA I'll have to find out some of these things by trial and error, just as I once did in Rio.
I want to stress that I'm not trying to persuade anyone else to do the same thing. If you're happy continuing to come to Rio, as I was for over a decade, then by all means do so. But the purpose of this forum is to share information, and that is what I am doing, letting those who are interested know that other alternatives are available. If you find this post useful, I'm glad I could help. If not, just ignore it. And who knows, I may change my mind. Maybe the real will plummet and the exchange rate will return to 2002 (i.e., 4:1) levels and the Argentine peso may soar. In that case, Rio here I come. But as of right now, I don't plan to come back to Rio anytime soon. In fact, I'm going back to BA next week.
But whatever you do, enjoy yourselves, my mongering brothers, do no harm, respect women, and take care.
Lorenzo
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]She offered me anal and even took a rather noisy dump in my presence in preparation for the event. I politely declined the offer, since this wasn't exactly a turn on.
Lorenzo[/QUOTE]
Wow, she is a clever puta, I never heard this tactic before, this would work on me too, sorry babe, no anal today.
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Wow, she is a clever puta, I never heard this tactic before, this would work on me too, sorry babe, no anal today.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but it can't really be done at will.:rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=Auriflama]Its always risk hanging with people you never met, They can be chronic drunks and start fights for no reason and what are you suppossed to fight for them? Best thing to do is just keep to yourself because even bringing friends can backfire if you have to babysit for them.[/QUOTE]My meetings with people from this board have been universally positive. Even Perkele is a nice guy when you meet him in the flesh. Most people have a posting 'tude that really doesn't reflect who they are in RL.
Just sayin'.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]You're brazilian? Just out of curiosity, why does a brazilian or any carioca at all, pick up a GP at a gringo-trap like Balcony where the quality is low and the prices are high?[/QUOTE]Because, as a rule, they pay half gringo price: 50-75 R$ per hour.
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Fee, was US$237.22
Great report! I have to say I miss Rio badly. I used to love getting an apt. On the beach for 50. 00 US and going to Help. Hitting the thermas like Luomo's, Monte Carlo and my favorite Centauras where the girls were friggin so hot that I couldn't believe it. Most money I spent was at Centauras 125 US (short time)including drinks. Iwould spend the whole night in there getting hammered and partying with girls. (this was around 2002) Now 237us to get laid? That's CRAZY! Too bad the dollar is so weak now, but I would never pay that much. I wonder what the beach action is like now. I used to get some nice tail in front of orethon palace. Well I guess I'll suffer in Medellin until the dollar gets better.
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Puta Playa Trip Report Part 2
I am back in Rio after being out in the nether regions of RJ state working this week. Here are some observations from the field, plus my BBFS report. Yes, it still exists here.
Part I is linked below. Part 2 follows:
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I am in Copa tonight staying at JW Marriot. It's a ripoff at US$320 plus R$35 internet, but it's not my money and I didn't pick it. I'd recommend that mongers go to Copa Premier for 1/3rd the price and reasonably similar rooms, minus the 20 pillows on the bed.
I ate at Amir on Rua Ronald de Carvalho, 55 about 10 pm. It is good Middle Eastern food, but as always, watch the dishes with garlic and onions. Not foods for mongers that like GFE. You can sit outside and watch some 10's headed to the club around the corner at Ave Atlantica. I am not sure, but it must be a GP place because the girls looked pretty hardcore poker-faced as they walked there. Not exactly in a clubbing mood, by the looks of it.
I finally got to Bar 22 at about 11 pm, and paid my R$12 entrance, which includes 3 beers, but the place was about closing, most of the girls had left. i had expected this, but this was the schedule that I had to work to.
There was a tall spinner, 9/10 body and 8/10 face, and also a stereotypical Brasileria that I prefer, morena with real tits and some cushion for pushin in the bunda but not too much, and a 8/10 face.
I was getting annoyed because I was the only gringo in the place and the girls were just shooting pool and BS'ing with the local guys in the bar. Last year, I was picked off by a girl the minute I walked in the door. But that had been much earlier in the evening then, about 9:30 and Copa was a ghost town last year during June. Now it's bustling...totally different than last year. Lots of people are all over the streets tonight.
Soon, I started to see girls dressing and leaving and got a little freaked out thinking that I'd have to go to L'uomo and take my chances there at much higher prices..but then my time spent studying Pimsleur Porto paid off. The morena was just showered and ready to dress and leave, but didn't seem to be in a hurry and was walking around in a towel, so I followed her down through the hall and stopped her. I basically told her that I'd been watching her in the boite for an hour and she had never come over to talk to me, and that she shouldn't leave until we had fucked. So she said sorry, and then seemed more than happy to go back and session even though she was on her way out.
So I paid the door woman the non-gringo price and she didn't give me any grief, R$75 for 30 minutes. The girl and I went back and I took a cold shower, yikes, and I told the girl that she needed to show me her bunda because we needed some sexy photos . I posted them at the link below. No problem, she got doggy and waited for me to get the shot. Then I started to put my camera away and she said that I needed another, so I turned around and she was on her back with legs up and spread...she was very photo friendly. If I had more time, I would have taken more.
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So we got down on the bed and she started off with very nice DFK, plenty of tongue. Then she asked me if I wanted a rubber for BJ and I said no..cool, BBBJ is a good start. In fact, any other start is unacceptable in my mind. So
she gave me a nice sloppy BJ, and I ate her pussy until I had my fill.
So from there, more BBBJ and she tore open a condom and I put that on and did her doggy for a while. I tried anal, but she said nao cu. So we went to mish, and then 69. I tried to put the condom back on after 69, but it was retaining a lot of air that I just couldn't seem to get out and it made us both laugh. I figured the mood was right so I'd see if I could pull off first-time meet BBFS in Rio the best way I know how, which is to start with rimming.
So I flipped her back and started eating her ass, which she really liked, and she was furiously rubbing at her clit. The time was right, so I pulled back to let her see the raw meat and she smiled and spread for it. It was a nice fuck, 2nd best I've ever had in Rio. I thought of popping in her, naturally, but didn't want the possibility of any little PP's maybe running around here, so I stopped after a bit and she went BBBJ to finish with CIM. Maybe I am getting sentimental or soft with my mongering? If so, forgive me.
So, it was a really good session for only $R75, considering what I've paid for much less in Copa at L'uomo, etc. Bar 22 is still up there on my list as the favorite (probably only) place that I still want to monger in Copa. Count me out of the high roller crowd who pays 7 times that for...?
Now back to Centro and VM tommorow, but now I've got a source for the raw stuff. Nobody infect it before I leave town. ;)
Lastly, a cultural note. If you want to get to fuck well-educated women outside the city, you want to make it known that you speak ENGLISH. Just like Asia..I've had good experiences this week with young ladies at my customer's place seeking me out so that they could speak English to a native speaker. After a while of talking about themselves, they start to warm up to me a lot and it is apparent. Unfortunately, these are employees of a customer company which gives me these free trips to Rio..so I follow the rule 'don't get laid where you get paid.' and don't follow this where it is going. We here are so focused on hos and low classed girls from the country that no one ever focuses on the girls who are well-educated, but not well travelled. They don't want your money or your Porto, they just want to hear English and hear of other countries and they'll follow you around all the time to do so. ;) Very entertaining..and frustrating.
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[QUOTE=John Cricket]My meetings with people from this board have been universally positive. Even Perkele is a nice guy when you meet him in the flesh. Most people have a posting 'tude that really doesn't reflect who they are in RL.
Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]
Sorry.
I'm live exactly as fucked up as I'm virtually. 99,99% wouldn't like me at all.
But, I'm genuine and honest.
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Swngerclub 2a2
Went to this club in March this year. It is located in Copacabana, and has access for single men on Thursdays, maby other days as well.
Great place, where I actually saw some Brazilian couples, where the man was watching the girl getting fucked by another guy. Some single girls were also present, just looking for some males to do, I guess.
A woman blowing all guys on the dance floor, if they just opened their pants and took out their little friend.
I will for sure go back, if I am in Rio again.
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[QUOTE=Barron101]Great report! I have to say I miss Rio badly. I used to love getting an apt. On the beach for 50. 00 US and going to Help. Hitting the thermas like Luomo's, Monte Carlo and my favorite Centauras where the girls were friggin so hot that I couldn't believe it. Most money I spent was at Centauras 125 US (short time)including drinks. Iwould spend the whole night in there getting hammered and partying with girls. (this was around 2002) Now 237us to get laid? That's CRAZY! Too bad the dollar is so weak now, but I would never pay that much. I wonder what the beach action is like now. I used to get some nice tail in front of orethon palace. Well I guess I'll suffer in Medellin until the dollar gets better.[/QUOTE]
Crazy for sure. You ask about the beach action. Right now, I don't know if it is the great weather or the world cup action, but all the women in Rio seem to be in a good mood. Lot's smiles and great service wherever I go. I mean restaurants, shops and other places as well. Maybe I am getting better looking, but I don't think so. Brazil is winning or at least not losing, weather is great, life is good.
Don't know about the beach in Copa Cabana, because I left just after the game ended yesterday so not many people were on the beach yet. But later in the afternoon on Ipanema, it was amazing. There was the usual spectacular crowd around Posto Nove, but I got smiles from at least 3 gdps. One, as I was running by, had a towel around her and was sitting facing the ocean. As I ran by, she smiled and spread her legs to show me she was masturbating under the towel. Then a little further down, another was sitting near the water, legs spread smiling as I went by. Believe me, this is unusual on IPANEMA!!!
So things are GREAT. Let's just hope Brazil continues to advance. I have a feeling the mood may change when it is over. The only problem on a beautiful Saturday is to choose among the multitude of options.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I am back in Rio after being out in the nether regions of RJ state working this week. Here are some observations from the field, plus my BBFS report. Yes, it still exists here.
Part I is linked below. Part 2 follows:
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I finally got to Bar 22 at about 11 pm, and paid my R$12 entrance, which includes 3 beers, but the place was about closing, most of the girls had left. i had expected this, but this was the schedule that I had to work to.
There was a tall spinner, 9/10 body and 8/10 face, and also a stereotypical Brasileria that I prefer, morena with real tits and some cushion for pushin in the bunda but not too much, and a 8/10 face.
I was getting annoyed because I was the only gringo in the place and the girls were just shooting pool and BS'ing with the local guys in the bar. Last year, I was picked off by a girl the minute I walked in the door. But that had been much earlier in the evening then, about 9:30 and Copa was a ghost town last year during June. Now it's bustling...totally different than last year. Lots of people are all over the streets tonight.
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I have posted on this aspect of 22 before, how they seem uninterested. I think it is because of all the guys in there who will not session. I have found you just have to let them know you are interested, but it can be touchy if they are having a beer with someone else. You can wait until they get up for some reason. But they do wind it down near closing time. I totally missed out the other night because I forgot they close at 12. I was just enjoying myself and a couple of them came over and gave it a brief try. I was playing it cool, but let it go too long. Next thing I know the lights are on and I'm like WTF???
You can go for R55 for 20 mins. as well. But, everybody needs to know that this place is pretty big step down from the top tier in all aspects except service, which can be quite good.
But, one thing, man, all this ass eating -- I am having a hard time with that. The hygiene is not that good in this place. A number of times, I have finished and found a stink on the condom you wouldn't believe. And this is just from normal sex, not anal. Since their water heaters don't generally work, this time of year, they don't usually shower before of after. Sometimes, I think they haven't had a bath in a few days. So, to each his own, but not for me. More for you, then. Go for it.
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Cyndi Lauper, seriously?
[QUOTE=Prosal] Cyndi Lauper said it best "Girls just wanna have fun". So do I. [QUOTE]And to think, all this time I have been following the useful advice of the smart and well-traveled guys here. When, according to you, I should have been practicing the Cyndi Lauper School of Mongering. I should have seen the signs myself "(Hugh)Daddy dear you're still number 1, but girls just want to have fun." As if she was singing directly to me. Such a simple approach, thank you for this.
[QUOTE=Prosal] Time and time again I have discovered that when it comes to party, "more money = more fun= more girls". [QUOTE]Here's another fun equation for you. One Flag = No Fun. Six Flags = More Fun.
[QUOTE=Prosal] This doesn't mean spending money on girls automatically gets you laid [QUOTE]It does if you are dealing with GDPs. Automatic. Guaranteed.
[QUOTE=Prosal] ...and it certainly doesn't mean you should throw money around. [QUOTE]Stop the presses! WTF, Are you running a fever?! Does this mean you won't be name-dropping your designer label clothes in this forum here? (And by the way, I have found that throwing money around attracts the wrong type of chicks and they come to expect it. Especially drunk barflies. And when the $ dry up, they fly away. But using influence to get a lady into a special event, and keeping them laughing and happy, really seals the deal. Doesn't cost a $.)
[QUOTE=Prosal] And I monger in areas here you wouldn't dare to venture, you coward. [QUOTE]Why venture anywhere when I am amazingly happy where I am with the great life I have built for myself. I do not have to hop on planes, trains and automobiles and haul my ass half way around the world flashing cash to get a sniff of some tail (and not even guaranteed tail at that.) Nothing cowardly about it, my friend. Just what works for me. And why the f' would someone have to venture into dangerous places to get laid? I am not trying to be awarded with a f'ing purple heart. I am looking for something more in the shade of pink, thank you. A coward is someone that calls others cowards through anonymous sites. When you coming back to Brazil for that beer I offered to buy you? (This is a forum about Brazil after all.) We can discuss it then, okay?
[QUOTE=Prosal] Girls (and especially in FSU) aren't so much attracted to money as much as they are to the fun that money generates. That's why, when I go out to party, I always take more money with me than I expect to spend and don't regret it when I do. I might not be rich, but I'm rich in girl stories.[QUOTE]Good to hear that they don't require you to have a winning personality, just cold hard cash. Hell, an ATM machine would make a great wingman. We all get it, you are the supreme mack daddy of pussy in the FSU, they all drink like fishes, they party like its' 1999, chicks are impressed with $, because they are impressed with $ you bring more $, Blah, blah, blah. Money = fun = girls = possibly getting laid = you could be guaranteed getting laid with a great GDP for a lot less $ = why the fuck are you talking about FSU here in a Brazilian forum = yeah, yeah I read the link you were gracious to provide where your buddy said you were a stud with a FSU girl with big tits = E = MC2. Blah, blah, blah. There I gave you your props, ok? But, again, this is a forum about Brazil. So, I politely ask, why the F' do you feel the need to repeatedly inform us of your immense success mongering in the FSU here. To quote your beloved mongering guru, Cyndi Lauper, we have asked you to stop "Time After Time."
And by the way, Prosal, you do know that you can have it all, don't you... you can be BOTH rich and rich in girl stories. Aim higher. I believe in you. Seriously. I do.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill] But, one thing, man, all this ass eating -- I am having a hard time with that. The hygiene is not that good in this place. A number of times, I have finished and found a stink on the condom you wouldn't believe. And this is just from normal sex, not anal. Since their water heaters don't generally work, this time of year, they don't usually shower before of after. Sometimes, I think they haven't had a bath in a few days. So, to each his own, but not for me. More for you, then. Go for it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I second that. Not sure how one can have the fortitude for ass munching there or in VM. Actually ass munching with a pro is off limits for me. But that is me. But did appreciate PP's tip on Garota Bingo at Bar 22. Quite a fun experience with the locals getting all worked up. I did not win and did not session there though.
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]If your mailbox were not full you would have a link to her pics by now.[/QUOTE]
Poucolouco
My mailbox has space now, please send the pics.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa] I ate at Amir on Rua Ronald de Carvalho, 55 about 10 pm. It is good Middle Eastern food, but as always, watch the dishes with garlic and onions. Not foods for mongers that like GFE. [/QUOTE]Are you really all that concerned with eating dishes with garlic and onions when you are eager to ass munch all the GDPs you go with in places like VM and Bar 22? Are they offended by your breathe?
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Comparing apples to apples
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Prior to coming to Rio I spent 4 days in Buenos Aires. I hadn't planned this, but I had to fill in the days I had planned to be on Robinson Crusoe Island. I found a private apartment named Gysell's from Argentina Private. Gysell even has her own website. I contacted Gysell's beforehand, told them my preferences, and that had what they thought would be the perfect match for me. They were right. I went there 3 days in a row: 1st day, 2 hours with a chica, cost 400 Argentine pesos; 2nd day, 2 hours with a different chica, 400 Argentine pesos; 3rd day, 3 hours with a different chica, 600 Argentine pesos. Total for 3 days: 7 hours with 3 chicas, total 1400 Argentine pesos, or US$356.87. I have a full report on Argentine Private if you're interested. As far as lodging goes, to cite just two examples, the Sheraton Towers in Rio now costs nearly US$200 a night and is far away from the action. The Sheraton Libertador in BA costs US$86 a night (before taxes) and is right in the center of downtown.
So what is my point? Simply this: Rio is pricing itself out of the market. Which is a better deal, one hour at US$220 (I'm subtracting what I estimate is the cost of the chica drink) or 7 hours at US$357, or US$51 per hour? If that isn't a no brainer, I don't know what is.
Lorenzo[/QUOTE]I agree termas pricing has gotten outrageous and the only thing that makes it palatable is the free entrance fees promotions many are running in the afternoons, especially during the World Cup. But I feel you should not compare your BA experience to your termas experience in Rio, but more to agencies in Rio where you look on a website and try to get your preference. You could have 3 different ladies from Scort Show, Karla Models and Ju Panteras to come to a Centro Hotel for a total of 6 hours for a total US $222 (R$400 including R$40 for KM taxi fares, other 2 did not charge me taxi as I guess the Metro was very convenient for them.) I actually ended up having over 7 hours total fun with 3 very fun and attractive ladies as each ran over about 30 minutes. I noticed they have a much larger selection now after Help closed. I actually have had great success with them recently in terms of looks and effort. Each was a better session than I have had in a termas lately. And they came to me. I had drinks available in my room, so that cost was next to nothing. I also was able to get cell numbers from each (2 that actually worked for more than a few days!) That's $31.74 US compared to your $51 US in BA.
Ibis is in Centro Rio (2 locations) and is US $80 or $85 / night. Not quite same level as Sheraton, but new, clean and convenient locations. Free internet and girl friendly. But I have to say that the $350/night US room with indoor courtyard view that my old company paid for at JW Marriott in the past was not much bigger than the room at Ibis. I was also a 5 minute walk away from Bel Prazer and had great morning sessions there for either R$80 (40 minutes) or R$100 (1 hour) with several very attractive and eager ladies. That's $44 or $55 US. Not exactly budget busting.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]There was a tall spinner......[/QUOTE]
Isn't this an oxymoron? A spinner, by definition, is small and compact. Check these definitions from Urban Dictionary: [url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spinner[/url].
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Dude your tongue is a Petri dish
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]So I flipped her back and started eating her ass
....but now I've got a source for the raw stuff. NOBODY INFECT IT BEFORE I LEAVE TOWN. [/QUOTE]Says the man eating passed around ass in Rio's flithiest mongering holes. Speaking of infections, can't imagine what is growing in your throat.
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Now what
Guys,
So I've visited rio twice and used to goto help and the termas but enjoyed help for the amateur girls there.
Is there any place now that can resemble help for a monger?
Thanks in advance
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Rio is now ranked in the top 30 most expensive cities in the world.
[url]http://images.businessweek.com/ss/10/06/0622_most_expensive_cities/29.htm[/url]
It was fun while it lasted, but 3 to 1 and 4 to 1 will probably not be seen again.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Says the man eating passed around ass in Rio's flithiest mongering holes. [/QUOTE]
Hi Hughdad, good to see you back. I'm not big on ass-munching, but to give Puta his due, he is munching the puta holes not the mongering holes. There's some incredibly clean putas in places where I would not put my tongue or a piece of fruit on the bedsheet. And unless one's into virgins, all girls are 'passed around.' But hey ho, nice sheets do make her hole [i]seem[/i] cleaner. :rolleyes: :D
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Ass munching in VM?
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Yeah, I second that. Not sure how one can have the fortitude for ass munching there or in VM. Actually ass munching with a pro is off limits for me.[/QUOTE]
Another breakfast ruined while reading ISG.
I don't do ass munching. It's perfectly fine if others like to do it, but nobody should go ass munching in VM. Many of the VM-girls are completa. They get their second hole stuffed several times/day. Not showering between every client. No hot water. Finding a toilet in VM with toilet paper is an impossible mission (but hopefully the girls get some from the bartender). Sticking your tongue in the anus of a VM-girl sounds like a very bad idea.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Says the man eating passed around ass in Rio's flithiest mongering holes. Speaking of infections, can't imagine what is growing in your throat.[/QUOTE]
You guys are too nice, for caring about me so much. I told the guys in the Tokyo thread that a J-girl stuck a metal hook in me and everyone just asked where they could find this wicked Japanese girl with the hook. Then I posted going BFE on pink salon girls and they thought that was fine. Then I posted BBFS pix and reports in the Jakarta thread, and people thought it was cool and pm'ed me asking more.
What difference does it make from an infection standpoint whether it's her mouth or ass? You can get something bacterial that can be cured by antibiotics, or you can get herpes. But you can also get oral genital herpes fever blisters from kissing girls who BBBJ'ed somebody with herpes. In fact, most of the girls probably have it and just don't work during breakouts. Statistically, there is no way someone like the thread's favorite girl at Luomo can have sessioned what, 1000+ guys, in all those years with Copa tourist mongers and not have everything in the book.
Let it be known that I've never sessioned a girl that wasn't ultra clean in hygiene, here or anywhere else in the world. Except once in NS Copa 583. ;) Usually their asses smell better than their mouths, even at the high end places..they drink alcohol, eat snacks, smoke cigarettes at work. None of these can be detected at the rear end.
And let's set the record straight. The VM girls are probably the cleanest hos in Rio. They play so safe, it is boring. I could just wear a full body condom trash bag next time and that would please them. You didn't mind sessioning at Flavia's after I reported last June that one of Flavia's girls tried to have me do her bareback anal...
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Puta Playa Field Report Part III
Hello! I am back again with Part III or my trip report and more garota pics, of course. Here goes.
I had to hang out with a non-mongering work colleague in Copa until this evening, so much of the day for mongering was lost. We ate at Marius in Leme, excellent as usual, but expensive as usual. I think it came to about $US 125 each with a couple drinks included and gratuity. It’s a nice place to go when you aren’t paying…caviar, etc.
So when he left at 6, I left Copa and moved to Centro. Since it’s the weekend, Centro options are extremely limited so I decided to go to VM by bus at about 9 pm. If you are staying at Formule or Ibis, you basically hang the first 2 rights out of the front of the hotel and you’ll see Praca Tiradentes, then make a left and go to the bus stops on the west side of Praca Tiradentes, then hop the 383 bus and when you see neon on a restaurant out the left of the bus, it’s time to get off. The neon sign says Praca da Bandeira restaurant or something. When the bus stops, you are right at the entrance to VM.
I walked back to VM and looked for the garota that gave me good service in my Part 1 post and pic posting last Saturday, but she wasn’t there. I saw the mullata that I’d also posted last week and she remembered me and was friendly. I usually don’t session the same girl twice unless she barebacks or has some special service, so I stayed away from the ones I sessioned last week. I just say hi and wave and that’s it.
Tonight in VM I was having a hard time finding girls that seemed lively or had any expression. There were plenty of really nice looking garotas there, but I don’t session poker face girls anymore so most were out of the question. Half of them just sit and stare and gyrate, the other half stand statueseque. They don’t drive the sale very hard. The 2 that did seem alive refused to allow pics, so they were out. Finally I picked one seemingly lively on from the dead end alley and took her back for R28 for 30 minutes. My pics are over in the pictures section. Nothing special there..CBJ and cowgirl and that’s all. For me, good sex is 90% DFK, eating pussy, getting BBBJ, anal fuck and stuff like that rather than the pussy fucking. I could fall asleep during CBJ and CFS, so I decided that I needed to leave VM and go find a really good session before everything started to close up.
I crossed the big street using the foot bridge to Rua Teixera Soares. I intended to ride the 383 bus back to Praca Tiradentes and go somewhere from there, but a Praca Maua bus pulled up first and I hopped that. It dumped me off in North Centro right in front of Florida Bar,…perfect. It’s what I had in mind.
So I approached Florida bar and 3 older ladies in the restaurant next door told me that I should not go in there, I should eat some nice roasted chicken there instead. I laughed. Then someone tried to sell me a gram of coke, which he showed me. I declined. It’s a little unethical for guys like this to be targeting mongers for cocaine sales. We already have an expensive addictive hobby. ;)
So at 11 pm, I paid R10 to get into Florida, then walked in and found only 4 girls. They were good looking. Two were occupied by a guy who had his shirt off and was swinging around the pole. I guess he did buy the party supplies. The other 2 girls were cuddled up in a corner, so I ordered a beer and sat down by them. The better one slid over and started chatting to me. Nice come-on, like the mannerisms you’d get in Luomo or someplace higher end. It’s nice to be chased rather than to be stared through like in VM or have to chase the girl like in Bar 22, so Florida seems better. I walked through the whole standard interview in Porto regarding.BBBJ, CIM, pics and got sim, sim, sim.
Then we went back, I showered, and came back to take pics. I asked for a hind shot and took it. Then she turned and wanted me to take a side shot, then she wanted me to take a tits shot..sure, no problem. The pics are posted in my Part III pic post in the other thread.
We started session with a ton of DFK, great kisser. I ate her pussy for a long time and then her ass, with my tongue in her cu earning me my first “ah…safadoooo!” of this trip. I was actually ready to fuck at this point, for whatever reason, but she wanted to do BBBJ before going to the fuck. Very nice blowjob and amazing ball work. Tokyo-quality ball work, IMO. She really liked to suck my balls. I thought she was a safada, so I tried to bareback her, but she wasn’t game. We had a nice fuck in 3 or 4 positions and then 69 until she finished with CIM and milked me all the way out in her mouth…then spit it into the condom and showed me. It was a nice touch.
She said she is a regular girl at Termas Black and White but there at Florida because there was some complication about her phone, she missed a call or something, so she is at Florida just this one night. She ran downstairs and was looking in the boite for a pen and paper so that she could give me her phone number, and said she wanted to come to my hotel after work at 2. She came back upstairs with her number written for me. I was done for the night and thinking of checking out Lapa instead of more sex, so I never got around to calling. Maybe I’ll go see her at Black and White and see if I can set up a TLN next week, just for kicks. She can go show me where the fast foda-eligible ‘non-pros’ can be found in Lapa. Slim pickings.
After leaving Florida, I walked from Praca Maua to Praca Tiradentes and messed around over there in the shadows and backstreets to do reconnaisance for Monday when everything in North Centro is back open…..yes, it’s desolate after midnight. Just huge fast cockroaches and the occasional street guys to look out for. Then I went to Lapa for 2 hours, arriving via from Praca Tiradentes via Avenida Republica do Paragui. Super safe walk, even at 2 AM. All I can say is that it’s a nice place to go dance, and laid back without all the dress codes and exclusionary practices that you’d find somewhere like Chicago…but it seems like no one arrives there alone. Almost all of the decent looking girls arrived holding hands with guys. The rest arrived with family or girl and guy friends together as a group. Tough job trying to split those out, and I’d had 2 girls already, so I eventually just came home to the hotel and do my reporting, and to read all of your wonderful comments.
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The PP Ass-Munch-O-Meter
[QUOTE=Puta Playa] I ate her pussy for a long time and then her ass [/QUOTE]Okay, I am losing count. Are we up 4 or 5 munches? We have to create a merit badge for him.
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Personally, I like their toes
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]You guys are too nice, for caring about me so much. I told the guys in the Tokyo thread that a J-girl stuck a metal hook in me and everyone just asked where they could find this wicked Japanese girl with the hook. Then I posted going BFE on pink salon girls and they thought that was fine. Then I posted BBFS pix and reports in the Jakarta thread, and people thought it was cool and pm'ed me asking more.
What difference does it make from an infection standpoint whether it's her mouth or ass? You can get something bacterial that can be cured by antibiotics, or you can get herpes. But you can also get oral genital herpes fever blisters from kissing girls who BBBJ'ed somebody with herpes. In fact, most of the girls probably have it and just don't work during breakouts. Statistically, there is no way someone like the thread's favorite girl at Luomo can have sessioned what, 1000+ guys, in all those years with Copa tourist mongers and not have everything in the book.
Let it be known that I've never sessioned a girl that wasn't ultra clean in hygiene, here or anywhere else in the world. Except once in NS Copa 583. ;) Usually their asses smell better than their mouths, even at the high end places..they drink alcohol, eat snacks, smoke cigarettes at work. None of these can be detected at the rear end.
And let's set the record straight. The VM girls are probably the cleanest hos in Rio. They play so safe, it is boring. I could just wear a full body condom trash bag next time and that would please them. You didn't mind sessioning at Flavia's after I reported last June that one of Flavia's girls tried to have me do her bareback anal...[/QUOTE]
Personally, I like to suck their toes. Nobody else goes there. No, they don't smoke out their asses -- they only do that in Thailand.
I choose smoke and booze smell over shit every time. But that is just me.
But I am wondering how you check it out first. I used to know a guy who would sneak his finger down to the pussy and then discretely bring it back for a sniff before committing to go there. Do you check it out that way or just head south and if it is too nasty bail out? That could get embarrassing -- Whoa babe, that stinks, ain't going there!! That could make her feel, I don't know, ashamed.
LOL.
BTW, I don't think you can compare the hygiene of, say, L'uomo girls where they come out showered, clean as a whistle, smelling like a rose in their little robes, with say, 22 or VM where they haven't had a bath all day. Now, sometimes, I like the reality of these places, but I'm not going down on their asses. But you go ahead, please. Maybe if you clean it up a little it won't smell so bad when some of the rest of us get there. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Ibis is in Centro Rio (2 locations) and is US $80 or $85 / night. Not quite same level as Sheraton, but new, clean and convenient locations. Free internet and girl friendly. But I have to say that the $350/night US room with indoor courtyard view that my old company paid for at JW Marriott in the past was not much bigger than the room at Ibis. I was also a 5 minute walk away from Bel Prazer and had great morning sessions there for either R$80 (40 minutes) or R$100 (1 hour) with several very attractive and eager ladies. That's $44 or $55 US. Not exactly budget busting.[/QUOTE]The Ibis duo in Centro is good (while it's still new at least). Biggest problem in Rio is not cost of hotels, but the fact that so many are old, worn-out and tired. Ibis has sound-blocking windows, you can actually sleep. They charge for internet in room though, and want an additional 50% room tariff if you want to stay after noon and until 6pm. Can walk to the one near Santos Dumont from airport. For girls visiting -- No problem. Desk calls up to announce "Ms. ____ is here." Nice professional touch.
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[quote=zingadoon]the ibis duo in centro is good (while it's still new at least). biggest problem in rio is not cost of hotels, but the fact that so many are old, worn-out and tired. ibis has sound-blocking windows, you can actually sleep. they charge for internet in room though, and want an additional 50% room tariff if you want to stay after noon and until 6pm. can walk to the one near santos dumont from airport. for girls visiting -- no problem. desk calls up to announce "ms. ____ is here." nice professional touch.[/quote]they will give you as many free 1 hour internet cards for the lobby as you ask for. also, i have discovered that if i log on downstairs in the lobby using one, i can then go up in my room and use for free unlimited by grabbing that floor's network. at least on my laptop. otherwise i think r$10 per night, high speed. as an accor member i get late check-outs to 2 pm (or sometimes 3 depending how busy they are) for free. reasonable they want $ if you want to stay an extra 6 or 7 hours after check-out as they to make special accomodations for room cleaning crews, etc. pretty liberal free loyalty program to earn free rooms too.
recently met with the guys running the ibis chain at a business conference in natal. they will be building all over brasil (especially ne). in fact, you will be seeing major new hotel development (and renovations) all around rio (and throughout brasil.) the government is even involved with financing programs.
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Cyndi Lauper, Mongering Genius?
[QUOTE=Prosal]Cyndi Lauper said it best "Girls just want to have fun". So do I. [/QUOTE]And to think, all this time I have been following the useful advice of the smart and well-traveled guys here. When, according to you, I should have been practicing the Cyndi Lauper Method of Mongering. I should have seen the signs myself "Daddy dear you're still number 1, but girls just want to have fun. "As if she was singing directly to me. Such a simple approach, thank you for this.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Time and time again I have discovered that when it comes to party, "more money = more fun= more girls". [/QUOTE]Prosal's Mongering Math Made Easy! This one confuses me (and probably others here) as we have been able to have lots of fun for less money. Our equation looks like this: Prosal's 'Flash the Cash' Mongering Budget (divided by) 20 (add in) some common sense and real personality (subtract) pretentious bullshit = Pure Paradise.
[QUOTE=Prosal]This doesn't mean spending money on girls automatically gets you laid[/QUOTE]It does if you are dealing with GDPs. Automatic. Guaranteed.
[QUOTE=Prosal]And it certainly doesn't mean you should throw money around. [/QUOTE]Stop the presses! WTF, Are you running a fever?! Does this mean you won't be name-dropping your designer label clothes in this forum again? (And by the way, I have found that throwing money around attracts the wrong type of chicks and they come to expect it. Especially drunk barflies. And when the $ dry up, they fly away. But using influence to get a lady into a special event, and keeping them laughing and happy, really seals the deal. Doesn't cost a $.)
[QUOTE=Prosal]And I monger in areas here you wouldn't dare to venture, you coward. [/QUOTE]Why venture anywhere when I am amazingly happy where I am with the great life I have built for myself. I do not have to hop on planes, trains and automobiles and haul my ass half way around the freezing world flashing cash to get a sniff of some tail (and not even guaranteed tail at that.) Nothing cowardly about it. Just what works for me. And I don't have to spend all that money you throw into your travel and hotel expenses, not to mention your big swinging dick bar tabs. And why the f' would someone have to venture into far-off dangerous places to get laid? Who am I, James F'ing Bond? I am not looking to be awarded with a f'ing purple heart. I am looking for something more in the shade of pink. And my offer to buy you a beer in Brazil still stands, if you ever actually come back to Brazil. We can discuss your coward comment in-depth at that time. I look forward to meeting you then.
So we all get it, you are the bonafide Mack Daddy of FSU pussy. And if we did not realize that, you graciously supplied us a link to that nice story one of your friends wrote that said you had a great 18 y/o there with great tits. So, it all must be true. All Hail Prosal, Mack Daddy of Drunken Cossack ****. There, I gave you your props. We just can't figure out why you need to boast here, in a Brazilian forum, about your exploits half a world away. Are we all supposed to pack up and come a'visiting? To quote your mongering goddess, Cyndi Lauper, we have told you to stop posting FSU shit here "Time After Time. "
As for your comment about not being rich, but at least you are rich in girl stories. All I have to say is aim higher Prosal. Don't you know you can have it all. You can be BOTH rich and have a great time with the ladies. I think you have it in you. I really do. Seriously. I am not joking about that. Do me proud, son.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Personally, I like to suck their toes. Nobody else goes there. No, they don't smoke out their asses -- they only do that in Thailand.
I choose smoke and booze smell over shit every time. But that is just me.
But I am wondering how you check it out first. I used to know a guy who would sneak his finger down to the pussy and then discretely bring it back for a sniff before committing to go there. Do you check it out that way or just head south and if it is too nasty bail out? That could get embarrassing -- Whoa babe, that stinks, ain't going there!! That could make her feel, I don't know, ashamed.
LOL.
BTW, I don't think you can compare the hygiene of, say, L'uomo girls where they come out showered, clean as a whistle, smelling like a rose in their little robes, with say, 22 or VM where they haven't had a bath all day. Now, sometimes, I like the reality of these places, but I'm not going down on their asses. But you go ahead, please. Maybe if you clean it up a little it won't smell so bad when some of the rest of us get there. LOL.[/QUOTE]
Ha, thanks for your honesty. I don't do that here, cause they don't keep feet really clean and don't wear proper shoes even in the dirty streets. In Japan I do it because they don't wear flip flops and get crap under their nails like Latinas, and also because they cane me mercilessly until I do what they want. Japanese girls even have socks with a special toe like the thumb on a glove, so they are usually immaculate.
Yes, I head south and if I smell anything, I bail. Except once, I have never smelt shit, sweat or anything but essence da buceta. I almost only go with girls who are mid-twenties, well kempt, and have very good facial complexions. It tells me that they take care of themselves, else they would have gone downhill already. Younger girls can be nasty. Last night at VM there was a young one up on a table at the U-turn flapping her pussy lips like wings and all the nasty ass Brasileros were sticking their fingers in there. Nice looking girl though, but no sense and she won't be around the biz long, probably.
I don't have any problem with the smoke, really. I'm frankly pissed to come back to Rio and see that the whole place is smoke-free. It's like the airport in Vegas going smoke free, practically everyone seems to smoke in both of these cities, so what in the hell are they thinking?
The girls at 22 come out showered. At least when I've been there. Regarding shame, I don't think the girls in the low end places have any concept of self-worth in order to have shame. Else they wouldnt spend 6 or 7 days a week being groped by nasty low class Brasileros who don't even intend to session, then once in a while being fucked by the old saggy balls guys that actually have money to spend. I doubt they earn much. We have noticed that the girls at 22 think we are just like the Brasileros and won't session..haha. If they would show a little love, I'd probably session three of them every time I walk in. I guess they didn't get the memo that gringo=$$$. I came to town with a good budget, and am just looking for worthy garotas to spend it on...maybe after the weekend.
Yes, I'll make sure the cus are clean for you guys when you get there. ;) Teamwork, ISG style. It just goes to show that one can stay at the Marriot and eat caviar at Marius, and still be bottom feeding...LOL.
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[quote=hughdad]they will give you as many free 1 hour internet cards for the lobby as you ask for. also, i have discovered that if i log on downstairs in the lobby using one, i can then go up in my room and use for free unlimited by grabbing that floor's network. at least on my laptop. otherwise i think r$10 per night, high speed. as an accor member i get late check-outs to 2 pm (or sometimes 3 depending how busy they are) for free. reasonable they want $ if you want to stay an extra 6 or 7 hours after check-out as they to make special accomodations for room cleaning crews, etc. pretty liberal free loyalty program to earn free rooms too.
recently met with the guys running the ibis chain at a business conference in natal. they will be building all over brasil (especially ne). in fact, you will be seeing major new hotel development (and renovations) all around rio (and throughout brasil.) the government is even involved with financing programs.[/quote]a positive and much-needed development. (there's actually a new branded hotel under construction next door to the 'airport ibis' in centro.) so many places in brazil suffer from lack of tourist infrastructure. cabo frio for one could benefit with a new hotel. ibis in other cities -- belo horizonte -- will remind you of hotels out by the interstate interchange in flyover country. but, in rio they're good, even with the 12 reales in-room internet. will try your tip for next time. for whatever reason, maybe on account of their business clientele, ibis is the most girl-friendly place in town.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Is this what one has to look forward to once one gets to be an old fart? I don't think after he has seen her "dance" he is going to care all that much![/QUOTE]
I am a 42 y.o old fart, who is a good friend of Bia outside her workplace...Our esteemed colleague had a thing for redhair...not for dancing skills....so I tried to clarify....I personally do not care if she is natural or dyed...I date her cousin so she is off limits anyway ( A pity but you can´t have them all)
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[QUOTE=July Gan]A pity but you can´t have them all[/QUOTE]
Sad, but true. Twat a shame!
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[quote=hughdad]they will give you as many free 1 hour internet cards for the lobby as you ask for. also, i have discovered that if i log on downstairs in the lobby using one, i can then go up in my room and use for free unlimited by grabbing that floor's network. at least on my laptop. otherwise i think r$10 per night, high speed. [/quote]how fast is the high speed internet: really fast or just faster than dialup? is it much faster than other hotels you think?
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[quote=ayyyypapi]how fast is the high speed internet: really fast or just faster than dialup? is it much faster than other hotels you think?[/quote]my complete white paper and analysis on broadband speeds at all rio hotels will be published soon.
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Puta, there is massive bacteria in the anus why would you ingest this? Have you ever heard of the fecal matter getting in the blood stream and going to the brain. You can die dude.
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Puta Playa Field Report Part IV
Hello again. Another trip report. This is about Sunday
As expected, mongering in Centro and VM on Sunday was incredibly boring. But Copa would have been too for someone like me who likes to fuck them where I find them. Anyway, I walked all around Centro and North Centro looking for something, anything...but found nothing after going through most of the list. At 8:30 I decided it was time to take decisive action, else I would have gone a day in Rio without at least one really good session, which is sacrilege. My options were either VM or termas, and the sex in VM is bare basics, so I decided to head for Luomo. I hate paying so much, it is a rip-off, but since Hughdad has spoke so highly of his friend Pietra at Luomo, I figured that I might as well ride down to Copa and see what is so special.
When I arrived at L'uomo at 10 or so, there were about 15 girls and maybe 5 guys. I didn't even have to ask for Pietra because she and Angelica picked me off when I came in the boite and ordered beer. Angelica was more my type because I prefer loiras or morenas, but she's too synthetic with the fake tits and the obvious cosmetic surgery, as if she’s seen Dr. 90210. Peitra was trying to woo me with her mind and knowledge of English whilst Angelica was silent and stroking me off for about 30 minutes. Then Pietra got up and started shaking it. All the girls were nudging their guys and pointing so that they would watch Pietra It was entertaining. Something close to 6 feet of Amazon shaking jungle booty is a site to see. I decided to go ahead and fuck her for the novelty and because she agreed to completa. There was some comment about maybe not anal, if my cock got too big, but I told her that I had ‘heard of her skill’ and said something like “let’s see what you can do with that big bunda”. I like it that Brasilian girls find a big bunda to be a complement. I said that to a passing big booty loira in 4x4 last year and she gave me a kiss and obrigada. Very funny.
So Peitra and I went back for the last 40 minutes of the night. It was good DFK, BBBJ, DATY and then I fucked her ass. I never bothered with her pussy, other than eating it. She had a hard time getting it in her ass and had me pull it out, then closed her eyes and said something about 'relax', maybe a minute elapsed and then she grabbed my dick and put it up to her asshole. So then I railed her asshole hard for 25 minutes straight, doggy and mish, and finished with CIM, which she swallowed. I had a day’s load saved, so was impressed that she swallowed it without me even asking. Very nice. Time was called and it was almost the end of the night, so we sat and smoked together and she was back and forth between talking soccer and complaining about being hurt by the hard anal, but she's a good sport and she did take it well, although I could tell that after a while it was bothering her because she started frigging herself and I assume that was a distraction from the anal. She’s too tall/big, I couldn’t reach around to do it for her or I would have. Pix are over in the pictures thread.
I left Copa on the 455 and arrived at VM probably about 1 AM. About half of the casas were closed up, but there were about 5 or 6 high quality girls in the remaining mix, all younger girls that are regulars that I see every time. The rest of the crowd was old hardcore pros, except for some girls that were just there having a good time. One stout black girl was dancing on a pool table with enthusiasm, singing and having a great time, until she whacked her head into the hanging lamp over the table..very funny.
I patroled VM for about an hour to spot everything, then the regular older girl from the main street that has the bared fake tits, jeans and perfect toned body was trying to lure me to session. I have been thinking about it everytime, but I already knew that she wouldn’t allow photos and she’s above my age range, so I pass it up. But the body is killer. I didn’t pass it up this time. I took her back and fucked her. It was about as good as covered-everything can get. Tight body and she could work her pussy, but I wouldn’t come as I have been saving my loads for girls who take CIM. She was a bit pissed that I wouldn’t come and kept holding out the toilet paper wanting me to come in it and yanking. I made her work the rest of the session until both arms were tired and then told her that I couldn’t come except in her mouth. Then she pissed in the trash can and smiled and told me it was because the bathrooms are too nasty to use. She passed and so did I. I went back to the hotel and crashed…hopefully Monday would be better.
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Puta Playa Field Report Part V
This is a report about Monday. I sessioned four girls. It went from okay, to bad, to over the top GFE, to absolutely nasty/crazy.
I woke up about 11 and went down to check out the aparments on Rio Branco. Most of them were closed due to the soccer game, everything was closing early. Based on my observations here in the past couple of weeks of World Cup, with even some government agencies having half-days off for soccer games. The more games Brasil wins in soccer, the longer people talk and take time off and the more they lose economically, so they lose by winning, but they don’t see it that way.
I had some success finding a couple of casas that were open. I arrived at Rio Branco 156 and there was a guy walking in front of me. They told him that there was a 20 minute wait, so we both walked away. Then I went to RB 156 sala 3320 based on the good recommendation from Sperto’s list. The pricing was per Sperto’s list. I saw all the girls, but I never got the parade that I’ve been used to. One girl, Carol, took me back to the room and she was wanting to session. I should have asked to meet the other girls, but this one was hot so I decided to probably go ahead. I wasn’t in good form and I asked her about photos and she said no, then I asked her about anal and she didn’t seem to get it, so I reached around and practically shoved her panties and denim shorts up her ass with my finger….she just stared at me with this ditsy look and said sim. I figured, what the hell, I’ll have many more sessions today, so it’s not a big deal. It was okay, but not what it could have been. The girl, like the others, was of the barely legal type. She was a very hot morena with a toned body. She had braces and suprisingly, a c-section scar. Her body didn’t have any stretch marks and I wouldn’t have suspected had I not seen the scar. She was young, maybe 19, but knew how to give a heavy duty BBBJ. Deep throat. She was trying to be a good actress during fuck, but the fuck wasn’t as good as what I had in VM the night before. I tried to come in her mouth, but then she showed me inside her mouth that she had and open sore from her braces and said that she just got the braces. Yikes, had I known this I wouldn’t have been sticking my dick in there. Nothing like risking getting your dick torn up my braces and finding that the girl has an open spot. She tried to finish me HJ and nearly tore my dick off and beat my balls to a pulp, I had to pull her hand off. That was the end of it for me. I could have popped, but I didn’t. Nowdays I am a little more reserved and don’t pop every time. Only in mouths and bottoms, but not in latex.
So I left RB156 and eventually made my way over to BA85. I pulled really nice looking morena named Bianca from the first floor boite. She was dressed in her Brasil patriotic soccer shirt and yellow g-string with something on her head dangling little green and yellow foam soccer balls on springs. She was doing a lot of dancing and acting crazy, but so was everyone else in town prior to and during the game against Chile. I took her back for $25 for 20 minutes. She was a hard worker, but everything was covered. She wore out both arms trying to make me cum but I left without popping. It was a fun fuck with a nice looking girl, nothing more.
Later I went to Copa to Bar 22 to seek out the girl that I reported Friday. I barebacked her the other day after an airpocket formed in my rubber. I wasn’t sure if she really knew that we were barebacking, but was 90% sure so I went back with the intention of BBFS.There were a lot of girls, but barely any guys. Good. This time, a different girl actually came up to me and started to talk (they are learning!) but I dodged her after a bit to go out in the hall and look for Miss Bareback. We went for 40 minutes. We started DFK and then she went BBBJ and I ended up on top of her making out and it slipped in, then she said Nao, camisinha and pointed, but then I started stroking it in a little and she said gostosa and smiled really big. It was the best GFE I’ve had from a pro, or perhaps all together because this girl just loves to DFK. Sloppy, sloppy, slow DFK. If I pull away, she comes at me for more. It was really good sex and I had been working up a big load all day pumping the girls in Centro, so when I shot in her pussy I went deep and it just kept flowing. Then we ended up making out the rest of the time.
After Bar 22, I hopped the 455 bus to Presidente Vargas and walked up to Bar Florida. I got inside and there were about 7 girls and 15 guys. The girls seemed to ignore me. Some Italians were in there acting loud and obnoxious like a bunch of kids in a candy store, so I was about to leave until a tall loira got up to the pole and started dancing. The girl had a nice bunda and thighs like you’d see at 4x4, but with a 10/10 face and 9/10 body. Holy shit. Luomo doesn’t have anything that good and last year I never say anything that good in the whole 4x4 lineup. Very hot. Furthermore, I had never seen such a girl work on a pole like that, let alone a short pole like the ones at Florida. She was prancing around in ~7” platform heels like she was born with them, jumping, dancing, spinning upside down on the pole and generally acting insanely giddy and energetic. Over the top. And that’s only the beginning. After about 10 minutes she came over to me to bum a cigarette and sat down with me. We were talking and she seemed really eccentric, freaky girl. We were making out in the boite and drinking Skol and I didn’t know if I was still up for a session, but decided there was no way to pass this up. Crazy hot and just plain crazy. She showered and then I showered. When I got to the cabine, she was face down on the bed with her ass in the air pumping it. I got out my camera to take pics and she was all for it…but my damn SD card was back in my laptop because I had been transferring pix of Pietra to post her. I could have kicked myself! 10/10 and no pics. :(
So Bella and I went into session. DFK, nasty, nasty BBBJ and an awesome doggy and cowgirl session. Then she hopped off started sucking my balls and cock again. But she would pull my cock out of her mouth and do crazy things like making barking and whimpering noises and lapping at my leg. I guess it’s one of her things. Then she worked all the way down past my balls and flipped me up and started eating my ass. (Ironic, huh?). Not only eating my ass, but literally sucking and pulling a vacuum on my ass and trying stick her tongue in. The whole time she is huffing and sniffing my ass and making weird noises. It was obscene. Then she worked a finger up my ass and started giving me a prostate massage while she was rubbing my precum from my cock all over her face, eyelids, nose and in her mouth. Naasty girl. I ended up shooting down her cheek and it was dripping off her chin. After the bareback shot at Bar 22 a couple hours earlier, I was surprised to have so much left. Good thing I didn’t pop on Rio Branco or Buenos Aires with those second-rate girls earlier in the day!
After this was over, we smoked and I talked to her. She said that she lives somewhere away from Centro and only comes there 2 days per week. The rest of the time she is at home because she has 2 kids. Furthermore, that nobody knows that she sells herself because her family wouldn’t talk to her anymore if they knew that she does this. From the body, I would have no idea of any kids. I repeat, 10/10 face and 9/10 body. She said that she stays at the hotel just north of Vargas and splits the cost with an amigo, 2 days per week to earn extra money dancing at Florida and hopefully make more getting sessions. She was absolutely over the topic gracious that I had sessioned her. Obrigada, obrigada, obrigada. It was an hour before closing and she said that I was the only one to take her back for sex all night. She said that she comes here and loses money because the guys in the bar just want to talk and never session, and that she gives good dances but can’t even get the guys to throw R$2 for a tip so she is thinking about not coming anymore. This confirms my suspicion that Brasilian guys just come into these plaecs to grope and drink, but in general the girls expect gringos to be the same and that’s why they aren’t more aggressive toward us. I am a white guy and girls everywhere think I am British or German, so I stand out as a gringo even though I dress like a local, but the bar girls never peg me as the ATM that I am,. They are a different breed and less savvy than the girls that work Ave Atlantica bars, it seems almost to the point of shyness or ignorance because they don’t have an approach to getting the sale. If she hadn’t wanted the cigarette, she wouldn’t have come up to me and I would have missed out on a real freak. The session was beyond pornographic and I can only call it obscene. ;) I was glad to have gone into Florida instead of stopping after Bar 22!
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PP, seriously: there is a hella lot of AIDS and HIV in this town. I can't concieve of any reason you would want to go bareback vaginal sex unless it were one of the following:
1) You are naive and have no idea how dangerous this is, both to you and to the other women.
2) You yourself are already HIV+ and you don't give a flying fuck about the rest of the human race.
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[QUOTE=John Cricket]PP, seriously: there is a hella lot of AIDS and HIV in this town. I can't concieve of any reason you would want to go bareback vaginal sex unless . . .[/QUOTE]
Yes but, just a reminder - safe sex discussion afaiaa are off-topic unless in the thread devoted to it. I happen to agree with you, but I am sure PP is aware of the facts. He's put in some sterling field reports. Not much point in criticising someone's personal tastes and practices.
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[QUOTE=John Cricket]PP, seriously: there is a hella lot of AIDS and HIV in this town. I can't concieve of any reason you would want to go bareback vaginal sex unless it were one of the following:
1) You are naive and have no idea how dangerous this is, both to you and to the other women.
2) You yourself are already HIV+ and you don't give a flying fuck about the rest of the human race.[/QUOTE]How would he know if he had HIV since the the test is a fraud. Also you dont get AIDS from strickly sex, AIDS is a lifestyle disease and a total breakdown of the immune system such as heavy drug use, malnutrition, lack of clean water, lack of sleep, heavy alchohol abuse along with unprotected sex from many partners who have std's for a period of time until the body gives up. Like christopher said this is not a STD thread and its PP's choice what he is gonna do. I wish him the best and good health.
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Puta Playa Trip Report Part VI
john. thanks for the advice. i am just a green monger, and not very familar with the scene in rio, so yes, sometimes i do stupid things. please pardon my typing too, as i am trying to quickly knock out reports in near realtime without cutting into sex time. here goes another field report:
today i am reporting midday, cause i can’t stay up till 5 am anymore writing these reports when i come back to the hotel it is tiring
this afternoon i hit rio branco at about 1 pm and went to 156 sala 1526 ‘rio lux massagens’. it’s open mon-friday, 10-5:30. this place is new and hasn’t been reported on isg, to the best of my knowledge. so maybe i’ve redeemed myself for all the regurgitated lunches by reporting a new place? perhaps? i pushed the buzzer and about 2 minutes later a very good looking young morena stuck her head out the door and said that it would be 30 minutes. there was a guy right behind me and he decided to wait, but i left.
then i crossed the street to rio branco 185 and went to sala 725. i posted on this place a week or so ago, having sessioned deborah there with poor no-gfe results. i met isg fellow acenva one night at l’uomo and he said that he had a different experience with the same girl the week after i fucked her, he got anal and all, completa. so maybe deborah was telling me the truth that she wasn’t feeling well at that time, or she was lying and acenva just has a better bedside manner. but there is also supposed to be melina and betina too…all completa per gpguia, so i went back to try a different girl. [isg honors to acenva, a gentleman and a monger who saved my life saturday on ave atlantica by stopping me from walking in front of a speeding cab after we left luomo.]
i arrived at rb 185 725 and rang the buzzer. paola greeted me. she was a 6 at best. i thought, okay, this is weird. she took me to see the other girls and there were 4. all of them were a 4/10 at best. bad. 75% of vm is better. i thought wtf, where is deborah and the other 2 girls that she had showed me in the book. i needed to bail. this was my first time bailing from a casa, and my porto is not great at all. so i didn’t have polite words to use to bail out..i took the brute force path. they were all asking me to fuck, so i just asked ‘who wants to be fucked in the ass alot?’ i knew that they would all say no, and find it funny, and that’s what happened. they burst into laughter and all said nao, nao, nao and i smiled and laughed, thanked them, and walked out. i could hear them laughing all the way down by the elevators. i am probably memorialized in the oral history of this particular casa now. ;)
so i left there, whew!, and hoped for better upon my return to rb 156 sala 1526. i arrived about a half hour later, like the morena said, and she greeted me at the door. nice. we came in and she introduced herself, she is camila, strong 8/10, probably about 22 yrs and the other girl who is duda 5/10. we won’t talk about duda. i was under the impression that this place was inhabited just by duda and carla, of the late great flavia massagens but i didn’t see carla and this duda didn’t look on par with the quality of a flavia girl. but camila was looking good. i think there were only 2 beds in this place. it was nice and clean. the shower water was hot, bathroom was clean, can’t complain.
so i decided to session camila. she asked how much time. i wasn’t in the mood for anal really, but still asked her about anal to keep the expectations there, but she said nao. no problem. i asked her about dfk, bbbj, and cim. sim, sim, sim. the girl has a very pretty face and the perfect dark brown skin tone that i like in brasil. she had a good attitude and smiles, so i went with 40 minutes for $r80.
it was a really good session. i sat in the chair and got very enthuastic bbbj for about 10 minutes, then ate her pussy and yes this time i did eat her ass. she had the smallest pinpoint cu. i can tell she doesn’t get her ass bored out like some of the other girls. for the record, for the last 2 days i did refrain from cu consumption, starting with pietra at luomo. i couldn’t take the peer pressure. the community is civilizing me. ;)
so camila and i had a good fuck and then she went to bbbj for a cim finish. very nice gfe session. not on par with the girl at 22 or the florida girls, but better gfe than peitra at l’uomo at a third of the price. i put a picture of camila in the thread.
i got my frequent flier card at rio lux. it says the 5th session is free, but then camila wrote 50% and wrote her name in 2 of the 4 boxes. i’m not in the mood to consider the math. i don’t know what is up with that, but i know that at r$80/40 i’d hit platinum elite on her if i was living in rio.
brasileros are always arriving at the casas at the same time i am. i wonder how brasileiras over 35 can even get fucked at home when all these guys have access to cheap discrete 20-something gfe 5 days a week. maybe they fuck the mailman or the favelado street vendors or something.
i left rio branco and went walking over to uruguania 210 around 3. the place was not open. i can’t figure out when it *is* open. i was there yesterday but there were no girls, just people watching the game and none of them looked like gp’s. i’ll keep checking.
i stopped for some sucos a decided to rua ouvidour 130 sala 707. sperto gave this an a for service and b for everything else. i think he is ‘spot on.’ there were 4 girls, all 7’s and a mama. a brasilian guy walked in right behind me. all these casas are super busy. there was a girl that spoke english and she came up to me and spoke english because it was clear thati was stumbling through porto in trying to talk to the mama. the english speaking girl is marcella, big loira, clearly mostly euro instead of tribal ancestry, 7/10 with a face somewhat resembling the american actress cameron diaz, if diaz wasn’t so skinny. really bad boob job and a barely noticable c-section scar, though. you can take them back for a short time ‘relax’ for $r20 one pop and it’s not clear whether that’s fs, or go for longer with boom-boom and one pop, or go ‘completa’ (her phrase) for ½ hour for 50. i think an hour was 80.
i booked 30 minutes with marcella. she was gfe from the time that the door closed, dfk, bbbj for a long time, then i ate her pussy and we fucked mish, then i asked her if she wanted to drink my milk and she said yes. i fucked her for maybe another 10 minutes and then set her loose on my cock. very nice bbbj and cim, plus she swallowed. we made out and my dick was dripping the remains of my shot, so i asked if she wanted more milk and she was all for it. she went down and lapped it off my dick and started giving me a bbbj again until i popped a second time. at this point i was shooting air. i got more than 30 minutes because we were there making out after time was called. i think because she wanted to speak english to me. she said she’s been to london several times and to holland once and thinks shes well travelled and that’s how she speaks english well. she said she had boyfriends from each of these places, so i suspect that she’s probably a copa gringo hunter by night and just works centro during the day. it was a good session at a fair price with a girl that likes to eat seed, so i was pleased. on my way out, i saw a 8/10 morena and am thinking of going back to try that one!
i posted pics of both camila and marcella in the pics thread, for your enjoyment.
a little tip for people who are staying at formule or ibis and mongering at night. take rua da carioca and veer left at the v split to rua assemblia. a citibank atm is at your left. there are lots of homeless nearby, but earlier in the night, there are taxis and buses lined up across the street so it is fairly secure to use the atm. this also is the shortest and safest path to rio branco. from rio branco, you can walk to anywhere fairly securely even well past midnight. don’t walk down vargas at night unless you are in the median or the north side of the street. the homeless on the south side of the street are aggressive, for whatever reason. also, be careful at the bus stop returning from vm early in the morning. if someone comes at you, divert to the cabs.. i go out until 3 am and haven’t been mugged yet, but it’s only because i usually wear darker clothes and walk slow, usually in shorter shadowy streets where i am just another profile and always hold my ground. it’s more of a problem on the well lit streets where people can see you move easily, like on vargas and around the entrance to vm. however, a pack of 3 medium sized dogs started to attack me in praca monte castela saturday night, but when i ran directly at them they turned and went away. so it’s not only the people that you need to look out for.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]This is a report about Monday. I sessioned four girls. It went from okay, to bad, to over the top GFE, to absolutely nasty/crazy.
I woke up about 11 and went down to check out the aparments on Rio Branco. Most of them were closed due to the soccer game, everything was closing early. Based on my observations here in the past couple of weeks of World Cup, with even some government agencies having half-days off for soccer games. The more games Brasil wins in soccer, the longer people talk and take time off and the more they lose economically, so they lose by winning, but they don’t see it that way.
I had some success finding a couple of casas that were open. I arrived at Rio Branco 156 and there was a guy walking in front of me. They told him that there was a 20 minute wait, so we both walked away. Then I went to RB 156 sala 3320 based on the good recommendation from Sperto’s list. The pricing was per Sperto’s list. I saw all the girls, but I never got the parade that I’ve been used to. One girl, Carol, took me back to the room and she was wanting to session. I should have asked to meet the other girls, but this one was hot so I decided to probably go ahead. I wasn’t in good form and I asked her about photos and she said no, then I asked her about anal and she didn’t seem to get it, so I reached around and practically shoved her panties and denim shorts up her ass with my finger….she just stared at me with this ditsy look and said sim. I figured, what the hell, I’ll have many more sessions today, so it’s not a big deal. It was okay, but not what it could have been. The girl, like the others, was of the barely legal type. She was a very hot morena with a toned body. She had braces and suprisingly, a c-section scar. Her body didn’t have any stretch marks and I wouldn’t have suspected had I not seen the scar. She was young, maybe 19, but knew how to give a heavy duty BBBJ. Deep throat. She was trying to be a good actress during fuck, but the fuck wasn’t as good as what I had in VM the night before. I tried to come in her mouth, but then she showed me inside her mouth that she had and open sore from her braces and said that she just got the braces. Yikes, had I known this I wouldn’t have been sticking my dick in there. Nothing like risking getting your dick torn up my braces and finding that the girl has an open spot. She tried to finish me HJ and nearly tore my dick off and beat my balls to a pulp, I had to pull her hand off. That was the end of it for me. I could have popped, but I didn’t. Nowdays I am a little more reserved and don’t pop every time. Only in mouths and bottoms, but not in latex.
So I left RB156 and eventually made my way over to BA85. I pulled really nice looking morena named Bianca from the first floor boite. She was dressed in her Brasil patriotic soccer shirt and yellow g-string with something on her head dangling little green and yellow foam soccer balls on springs. She was doing a lot of dancing and acting crazy, but so was everyone else in town prior to and during the game against Chile. I took her back for $25 for 20 minutes. She was a hard worker, but everything was covered. She wore out both arms trying to make me cum but I left without popping. It was a fun fuck with a nice looking girl, nothing more.
Later I went to Copa to Bar 22 to seek out the girl that I reported Friday. I barebacked her the other day after an airpocket formed in my rubber. I wasn’t sure if she really knew that we were barebacking, but was 90% sure so I went back with the intention of BBFS.There were a lot of girls, but barely any guys. Good. This time, a different girl actually came up to me and started to talk (they are learning!) but I dodged her after a bit to go out in the hall and look for Miss Bareback. We went for 40 minutes. We started DFK and then she went BBBJ and I ended up on top of her making out and it slipped in, then she said Nao, camisinha and pointed, but then I started stroking it in a little and she said gostosa and smiled really big. It was the best GFE I’ve had from a pro, or perhaps all together because this girl just loves to DFK. Sloppy, sloppy, slow DFK. If I pull away, she comes at me for more. It was really good sex and I had been working up a big load all day pumping the girls in Centro, so when I shot in her pussy I went deep and it just kept flowing. Then we ended up making out the rest of the time.
After Bar 22, I hopped the 455 bus to Presidente Vargas and walked up to Bar Florida. I got inside and there were about 7 girls and 15 guys. The girls seemed to ignore me. Some Italians were in there acting loud and obnoxious like a bunch of kids in a candy store, so I was about to leave until a tall loira got up to the pole and started dancing. The girl had a nice bunda and thighs like you’d see at 4x4, but with a 10/10 face and 9/10 body. Holy shit. Luomo doesn’t have anything that good and last year I never say anything that good in the whole 4x4 lineup. Very hot. Furthermore, I had never seen such a girl work on a pole like that, let alone a short pole like the ones at Florida. She was prancing around in ~7” platform heels like she was born with them, jumping, dancing, spinning upside down on the pole and generally acting insanely giddy and energetic. Over the top. And that’s only the beginning. After about 10 minutes she came over to me to bum a cigarette and sat down with me. We were talking and she seemed really eccentric, freaky girl. We were making out in the boite and drinking Skol and I didn’t know if I was still up for a session, but decided there was no way to pass this up. Crazy hot and just plain crazy. She showered and then I showered. When I got to the cabine, she was face down on the bed with her ass in the air pumping it. I got out my camera to take pics and she was all for it…but my damn SD card was back in my laptop because I had been transferring pix of Pietra to post her. I could have kicked myself! 10/10 and no pics. :(
So Bella and I went into session. DFK, nasty, nasty BBBJ and an awesome doggy and cowgirl session. Then she hopped off started sucking my balls and cock again. But she would pull my cock out of her mouth and do crazy things like making barking and whimpering noises and lapping at my leg. I guess it’s one of her things. Then she worked all the way down past my balls and flipped me up and started eating my ass. (Ironic, huh?). Not only eating my ass, but literally sucking and pulling a vacuum on my ass and trying stick her tongue in. The whole time she is huffing and sniffing my ass and making weird noises. It was obscene. Then she worked a finger up my ass and started giving me a prostate massage while she was rubbing my precum from my cock all over her face, eyelids, nose and in her mouth. Naasty girl. I ended up shooting down her cheek and it was dripping off her chin. After the bareback shot at Bar 22 a couple hours earlier, I was surprised to have so much left. Good thing I didn’t pop on Rio Branco or Buenos Aires with those second-rate girls earlier in the day!
After this was over, we smoked and I talked to her. She said that she lives somewhere away from Centro and only comes there 2 days per week. The rest of the time she is at home because she has 2 kids. Furthermore, that nobody knows that she sells herself because her family wouldn’t talk to her anymore if they knew that she does this. From the body, I would have no idea of any kids. I repeat, 10/10 face and 9/10 body. She said that she stays at the hotel just north of Vargas and splits the cost with an amigo, 2 days per week to earn extra money dancing at Florida and hopefully make more getting sessions. She was absolutely over the topic gracious that I had sessioned her. Obrigada, obrigada, obrigada. It was an hour before closing and she said that I was the only one to take her back for sex all night. She said that she comes here and loses money because the guys in the bar just want to talk and never session, and that she gives good dances but can’t even get the guys to throw R$2 for a tip so she is thinking about not coming anymore. This confirms my suspicion that Brasilian guys just come into these plaecs to grope and drink, but in general the girls expect gringos to be the same and that’s why they aren’t more aggressive toward us. I am a white guy and girls everywhere think I am British or German, so I stand out as a gringo even though I dress like a local, but the bar girls never peg me as the ATM that I am,. They are a different breed and less savvy than the girls that work Ave Atlantica bars, it seems almost to the point of shyness or ignorance because they don’t have an approach to getting the sale. If she hadn’t wanted the cigarette, she wouldn’t have come up to me and I would have missed out on a real freak. The session was beyond pornographic and I can only call it obscene. ;) I was glad to have gone into Florida instead of stopping after Bar 22![/QUOTE]Wow going raw in Brazil huh? Doesn't Brazil have one of the highest aids rates in the world? I'm not here to tell anybody what to do or not to do but you better be careful. And also, even if you don't get aids, but what if you get burnt and you have to go on meds on your vacation for about a week or more? So basically you would have to cut your trip short because you are burning. Hey, its your body and your health.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]John. Thanks for the advice. I am just a green monger, and not very familar with the scene in Rio, so yes, sometimes I do stupid things. [/QUOTE]Yeah, sorry. I didn't realize being a veteran monger meant that you were immune to STDs. And at 22, no less. Christ! Why not just go bareback at BA85 while you're at it? I mean as long as you got the STD pass.
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Puta Playa Trip Report Part VI Continued
Here is the continuation of my Part IV trip report covering Tuesday and Wednesday early AM. In the last episode, I was feeding seed to 2 girls in the afternoon. Now, I continue with the night time with the goal of an additional 2 girls today, although I was spent from popping 3 times in the afternoon and too much walking…here goes!
I left for North Centro at about 10 and arrived on foot to Rua Acre to check out Aquarios, I asked the doorman the price and didn’t catch it all, but it was $50 entrance including 3 beers and then an hour with a girl was R$150. I didn’t know what to expect inside, and this is approaching 4X4 pricing when everything is put together if there if $150 maybe doesn’t include the cabine..so I kept walking. I scoped out Termas 31 and MV30, I figured the price was about the same as Aqaurios and didn’t know what to expect from them, so I kept going.
Club Florida had been good to me so far, with the first girl I reported and whose name I forget, and then the crazy barking ass licking girl from last night..so off I went to Florida to find some new tramps. I arrived about 11, grabbed a sucos de acerola and a pack of cigarettes at the place next door, and this time easily fended off the old nasty wandering grandma hooker who keeps harrasing me everynight to buy her a Coke because she thinks I am “America-rich” and the money is nothing to me. This perceptive and foul-mouthed old hag is the only one in Centro that assumes I am a real life gringo. Most people ask me where I live in Rio. I was in no hurry, Club Florida is open forever, so I watched the old men who sit under the lamps by Bar Florida playing cards on a plastic table every night, and listened to the music that was playing. Watched the doorman at Club Florida bullshit with his buddies, then finally decided to go in, paid my $R10 entrance and grabbed a beer to sit down.
As usual, the girls were perched over together one side of the room chatting to one another and not approaching anyone. The polarization of the crowd with girls on one side away from the guys reminded me of Hotel Travel in Jakarta where there are about 40 girls sitting under spot lights opposite the drinking area in color coded miniskirts and you just point and fuck...but of course this is a bar so it’s not like those ‘slave shacks.’ At Florida, occasionaly one goes up and dances at the pole. There were 13 girls when I walked in and it only got better from there. 10 of these girls were termas quality, especially in the face, but they lack the ‘perfection of high end termas girls. Most had a beautiful face and nice ass, but they lack big tits. This is not the place to be for fans of the glands. That said, the quality is 5 times better than that of Bar 22 in Copa.
The freak loira that I fucked last night showed up at about 12. She came to sit down with me and we made out there in the boite for about 20 minutes, whilst she increased my tab by 2 Skol and smoked about 5 of my Marlboros. GP’s are good at fast consumption. I thought of invoking my ‘special services’ clause and breaking my rule of not sessioning the same girl twice, mainly because I fucked up badly last night and forgot to put my SD card in the camera…so I wanted to get pics. She said that she was there again tonight, unplanned because her friend was staying an extra day and that’s her ride home. After about 20 minutes, I asked her to get up and do some pole work, which she did. At this point a Brasilero came and was watching her dance. As she came off the platform, I saw him say something to her and realized that I wouldn’t be taking any pics. Five minutes later she said she’d be right back, then disappeared for 15 minutes and I knew that she’d gone to session the Brasilero. Now I know she likes to suck ass, so there was no way I’d take sloppy seconds on her…time for a new girl!
After a while, they switched from rap to samba music and all the girls were doing their samba moves. A couple of them harrased me until I danced with them, although my feet and legs are hurting all the time from hoofing it around so much. This made my introduction to my next rider, Duda, who is posted over in the pix thread. She is a tall loira, with the face of a model, but too skinny and the body is not good. I wanted to grab another girl and get into session before the ass sucking girl came back from session and made a scene because of me rejecting her..so off I went with Duda. 9/10 face and 7/10 body once the clothes were off. Not my preference, but a guy has to do what a guy has to do,
I booked 40 minutes for R$90. In haste, I didn’t have any agreeement to services and, in fact, hardly any discussion beforehand. She arrived in the room, went off to the shower, and came back. I went to take a shower, which surprised her, and then came back to be met with DFK. I took the picture, then she went to BJ but insisted on a rubber. It was one of the better CBJ’s I’ve had, meaning I felt it strongly despite the bag on my cock. Nevertheless, when a girl refuses BBBJ with CIM with me, she sentences herself to a lot of work because I make them do cowgirl the whole time right up until the last minute and have no intention of popping.. I don’t want to waste my energy for less than full-on GFE, so I let them do all the work. This one wore herself out in about 10 minutes of cowgirl and insisted on switching to doggy. I gave it to her doggy, but then had her go back to cowgirl and could have came when she was bouncing on me, but I refrained. Lastly, she switched to CBJ with a new rubber and gave a nice blow. Time was called with a knock of the door and she kept sucking. Finally after a couple minutes she came up and asked me if I was going to come. I said no, and she was confused and asked why not. I told her why and she was not exactly happy about it, but we ended on good terms.
I went back to boite to finish my beer which I had been carrying with me, and the ass sucker got pretend-mad at me for going with another girl, and suddenly a wave of more new girls came in the door about 1:30 AM. It seemed that a termas must have closed and the girls came over to Florida. So there is a tip, it may be possible to come fuck termas girls for cheap in the wee hours at Florida. They were still energetic, very much so.
I was sitting in the middle section and made eye contact with a morena that I’ve been watching for 2 nights. Her name is Gabriella and Florida regulars will know who I am talking about. She is the popular girl in the bar, always sitting with someone but no one ever takes her back for session. It has been irritating me, because I want to session her but she is always occupied by the chatters. They think it’s a Japanese hostess bar or something. I hestitate to call her a morena because I can’t figure out her ethnicity, but it’s exquisite. She’s very small, too small I thought, mocha and has very fine facial features with eyes that look Asian. I would describe it as a cross between Singapore and Brasil, but probably it’s just some Brasilian native ethnicity that I have never seen before.
So I was sitting there, and all of the sudden I noticed that she was free and standing across from me. We made eye contact and she decided to come over and talk, then took me back to her little corner abode where she hangs out. We talked for a while, and some rude obnoxious guy came up and started bothering me. Asked me where I’m from and I told him, then he starts talking to me in English telling me how he loves America but how American strip clubs don’t let you touch the girls. I told him that he hasn’t been down South...I’ve been blown by strippers down there before. I couldn’t politely get rid of the guy without maybe starting a scene, and then he had the nerve to ask if I’d pay for his beer. Finally I waved him off and the ass sucking girl from last night started pushing him away.
So I continued to sit and talk with Gabriella, mainly it was her showing me picutures of her son and some guy. I asked who the guy was and she said that’s the father and her son, but the father ran away. Judging by the condition of her body, no strech marks, flat stomach and super tiny, I would have never guessed she had a kid. She was showing me picture of her son on her cell phone until I could barely stand it until finally the ass sucker came over and asked if I wouldn’t buy Gabriella a drink. I itended to fuck her and make it 4 for the day if we could work out the terms, so I bought her a red bull and got down to busines. Photos, DFK, BBBJ, CIM, my standard interview. Sim, Sim, Sim, Sim. We were golden. I like the girl’s face so much I would have sessioned her if she’s said no to everything. ;)
So we went back for a 40 minute session, pics are posted in the thread. She was very photogenic, but didn’t start to fancy herself a model like some girls do when the camera comes out. She was GFE. Excellent DFK, then BBBJ spitting on my cock and going deep throat many, many times. At one point it was in her throat and she was gurlging because it was so juicy of a BBBJ. Superb BJ. We went to cowgirl, then reverse cowgirl, then doggy, and finally I asked it she was ready for leite and she said yes. So she sucked for maybe 10 minutes and I popped in her mouth, althought I didn’t think I’d have much left after this afternoons’ fun. She dove deep on it and sucked it up, then she asked me if I wanted to go again. I was totally spent from all these girls, so I said no.
The rest of the time we were smoking and talking, and I got a real glimpse into the life of a non-Carioca GP working in Rio. Girls always have these sob stories when they want someone to sponsor them, but in this case this girl was telling me a sob story without any expectation or indicating any hint for money so I know it’s not BS. She told me that she is 24 and from from Minas Gerais and she had her son three years ago, but the father ran off and she had no money, so someone told her 6 months ago that she could come and dance at Florida in Rio to make money. She has to stay for 3 months at a time, working 7 pm – 5 am Monday through Saturday, but at the end of the 3 months she is allowed 3 days off to go home. They let her stay for free in Florida, where she sleeps all day in fuck room #1 and her friend from Minas who also works there sleeps in Room 6, which we were fucking in. From 7 pm to 5 am they are required to be in the boite, but they can stay in the cabines all day from 5 AM until opening time, sleeping, watching porn on the TV’s or, I assume, going out. I asked her how long she would work there and she says that she doesn’t make much because guys don’t buy sex very often, just talk for free, so she doesn’t know when she would be able to return home for good. She told me that she misses her son and wants to see him, and pulled her cell phone out again and was kissing the pictures on the phone as she flipped through them and saying ‘I love you’. Then she freaked me out because she was telling me how her son needs her there in Mineas and not in Club Florida for 3 months at a time..and then she demonstrated the need by squeezing her tit and showing me that she was lactating. I was surprised, to say the least. Before I talked to her in the boite, I would have placed a R500 bet that this girl had never had a kid because that’s how small and tight the body is…but lactating too??! And I don’t know why she is lactating when that kid is 3 years old. Perhaps they feed until puberty in Mineas..haha. She’d just come back from her second 3-day off leave, so I don’t know what was going on back there in the countryside. Had I decided to suck her tits during session, I would have gotten a surprise.
So I was putting my clothes on, and then I heard sniffling, and I looked back and she was flipping through the filho pics in the phone again. Then she turned around and had sparkling lines of tears running down her face, since she had sparkly eyeshadow and some face sparkles (which I have second-hand all over my face at this moment from sucking face with her..haha). She asked if I had all my things and then we left and she diverted somewhere and I didn’t see her in the boite after that. Eventually I left for the long walk back to Tiradentes, dead quiet on Rio Branco, you could literally hear a pin drop on the little Rio sidewalk stones. Homeless were snoring along the buildings at Rua Assembleia, a few guys in orange jumpsuits were silently sweeping the area around Carioca station, the occasional rat scurried here and there. That’s about it. Centro at night is very peaceful, if you don’t run across the wrong person, and I enjoyed walking home after the good time at Florida.
So what does all this mean? It means that one should be able to go into Bar Florida and find her or similar indentured girls, and they’ll probably fuck for meals and a better accomdation all day on a Sunday at 5 AM clear through until Monday. The beds they sleep on are bad, it’s not clean, the shower is cold, there’s probably no TV except the porn, and the Brasilados that work there seem to treat them like poorly. Easy pickings.
So the day ended like that, 4 girls, 5 pops, $R310 damage, and a story to tell.
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I always use condoms for intercourse. I contracted a antibiotic resistant strain of gonorrhea last year (painful and took weeks to get rid of). On that visit, I only had sex with girls at L'uomo and Monte Carlo. I can only think that it was transferred by BBBJ. The urologists in Rio and London informed me that oral sex has become a major concern for the transfer of STD's. It is a bit of a turn off when you think a good percentage of the Rio working girls have probably had unprotected oral sex with at least 50 or more guys that month. Be careful, these antibiotic resistant strains are on the increase. The prostitutes can carry these strains in their throat for weeks, with little or no symptoms. I hope you get a complete health check before having sex with real women. Unsuspecting friends who don't indulge in commercial sex and are unaware of your activities, do not deserve to be exposed to these risks. I've been around mongers in Latin America and many other places around the world for more than 30 years. Many mongers are incredibly efficient at justifying, with no regard for others.
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Torgoch - Field report part 1
a halfway report on my rio trip. this is my third trip to the cidade maravilhosa, the first and third being mongering trips. this is my first report after being reader rather than a writer for the last year.
friday (25/6)
i arrived on friday night instead of early friday morning having been messed around by air france and spending an enforced overnight stop in some crappy hotel in the suburbs of paris where i got about 3-4 hours sleep. this lost me a day's r&r as i had planned to hit the termas at night having rested all day. anyway, once i had dropped off my baggage in the apartment in copa (courtesy of don at amerioca), i decided that friday night would be all about shopping for food, toiletries and a recce of the new scene on atlantica post-helpee. (i didn't go to help on my first trip in june 09 and now regret it as i will never have the helpee-experience, even in its twilight year). feeling knackered, i managed to stay up until around 12. 30-1. 00, walked up av. atlantica – meia pataca was empty, balcony had a small crowd but nothing like what i remembered outside help and mabs was dead too.
saturday (26/6)
woke up late feeling knackered and not sure what time zone i am in. watched some world cup soccer on the tv whilst my body tuned into brazil time and then headed over to luomo around 5. took a taxi up (as previous advice has said) but in reality i could have walked. in the boite isaw some people i had met on my first rio trip and got some intel. there were a lot of new girls there. my favourite from last time – tati – has moved on to centaurus (so no chance of seeing her this trip given the costs at centaurus). my eye was caught by a morena (izzy/issy?) – pretty face, biggish tits (silicon as i found out: natural to look at, hard to the touch), enormous bunda. bingo! she spent a while dancing in front of me, shaking everything. after a while she comes over and we chat. my portuguese is weak, she spoke a little english, but we managed to chat for half an hour or before heading off to the cabine. in hindsight, i should have spotted a few warning lights in the chat? also, in the rush of blood from my brain to my dick, and the anticipation of my first brasileira in a year, i forgot the golden rule of asking the right questions (what do you do. bbbj? cim? anal? etc). in the cabine, it was a covered bj followed by good but fairly mechanical sex – missionary and doggy with me doing most of the aerobic work. i asked about anal but she said no. she has worked as a pro in spain and perhaps this has influenced her performance and work ethic? i. e. the performance was good but very mechanical/professional and not the passionate gfe sex that brasileiras are noted for. i did note a bit of clock watching and we wound up and finished right on time as the phone rang. overall a great girl to look at, but not the performance i had expected based on my experiences on my first trip. i plan to go back to luomo on my last night (next saturday) but no chance of a repeat. left just before 9, walked back down siqueira campos to the beach and entered the world of the non-mongering gringo tourist – stroll round the craft fair, drinks at a quiosque on the beach.
note on costs: the prices on the sheet in the reception are not correct, but the receptionist explained the new costs = entrance = r$60, 1 hour = r$270. i got a r$60 discount on the total (i guess as i entered before a certain time and sessioned) and the total including drinks was r$305.
sunday (27/6)
having read on isg that sundays in paradise are dead, i resigned myself to not tapping anything until monday. did some touristy stuff on sunday (alibi photos) and did check out the postos and cafes on atlantica but all very quiet, what was there did not catch my eye. i note that puta playa reports on some sunday options in his excellent field trip reports.
monday (28/6)
headed off into centro mid-morning to check out some of the casas. took metro to carioca and went into rb 156 to check out some of the casas. having read sperto's excellent guide and the mention of big tits at sala 1839 (alessandra), i tried there but no answer. tried sala 2622 and was told that they would be open in 20 minutes (puta playa, i guess i was the guy in front of you!). was about to take the elevator to 3320 (note: if you haven't been to rb 156 before, there are several elevators which service different floors in the building so to go from level 1 to 18 to 26 to 32 involves 4 different elevators and 6 rides! luckily the elevators are pretty quick, although you may have to wait in line several minutes on level 1 to get a ride), when my phone rang and it was a girl that i had met last year in the termas and had stayed in email contact with. i had planned to meet up with her on this trip and she was phoning to say that she was passing through centro from her job to get the bus back to her home town outside rio and did i want to meet up? she is a girl who some of you have probably fucked in the past but she has now left the scene and has got a normal job – ironically she role-played it in one of her pornos! anyway, she comes over to my apt in copa and we get lunch at a por-kilo (her choice guys, before anybody calls me a cheapskate!). then its back to the apt to watch the brazil-chile game. as the game hots up, so do we and at the end of the game, she is in a good mood and its all systems go! massages. sex. great sex! period. after the work out, we're hungry so we go get take out pizza from dominos on ns copacabana (again, her choice guys! i did offer "whatever you want") and back to the apt to eat. in a change of mind that only brasilieras can make she decides she can stay the night, even though when i asked her earlier if she would (pretending not to understand what she was saying about how long she could stay) she said no. so we cuddle up on the bed whilst she watches two telenovelas! great gfe. a lovely girl. total cost for an allnighter – about r$70.
tuesday (29/6)
my girl from the night before leaves around 8. 00 to get the bus home, i do a few chores around copa (food, laundry) and head off on the metro to centro around lunchtime. back to sala 1839 in rb 156, this time it is open. met by a blond who takes me straight into the bedroom- sperto's guide says that only 4 girls work here and with it being lunchtime in downtown, the other girls are hard at work. the blond is elisa, pretty but a bit skinny for my tastes – she also has braces on her teeth and i am a little concerned about her peeling my banana so i decide to pass. i ask her about alessandra (ther big tit girl in sperto's list) and she says that she is now working at another casa. as we turn to walk out, i see a huge ass behind the skinny body! hmmm. maybe i missed a treat here?, but elisa looks a bit pissed off that i've said "nao obrigado" so best not to pursue it now (already had one mechanical fucker, and she could go the same way if she is pissed off with me?). plenty of other casas in centro.
for info: sala 1839 has a website called centro susy where you can see the current line up, not sure if i am allowed to post it so pm me if you want it.
i take the elevators up to sala 3320 (so down to level 1, up to level 32, get out and take a second elevator up to 33). when i arrive a girl called talita takes me into the room and explains the system in english. the girls walk in to say hi. there are 5 girls on offer – talita, bia, milena plus two whose names i forget. this is the problem with rio casas – a series of stunning, and sometimes not so stunning, gatas walk in and you have to try to remember names whilst at the same time "checking out the merchandise". for me, it is a no brainer – talita – just my type: morena latina, extremely pretty, smallish tits, big bunda. jackpot! book for one hour (r$115) and she is just sweet. attentive and a great session. again, covered bj and no beija them boca (kisses on the mouth) – doh! i forgot to run through the check list as the blood drained south from one body organ to another.
for info: sala 3320 is called duda massagens and they have a website. again, not sure if i am allowed to post it so pm me if you want the details.
rest for a couple of hours in centro – i love the atmosphere and hustle on the side streets off rio branco. have a coffee, check on the locations for some other salas/termas in centro – i walk past ba 85 twice. i want to go in, but something about those damn stairs put me off!
around 4. 30, i head off to 4x4 – fairly quiet (much more active when i leave around 8 pm), i use the cover of watching the spain/portugal soccer game for spying out the girls on offer. i keep being drawn back to the same girl who was standing by the bar as i walked in. tall, drop-dead gorgeous (i'm going to run out of superlatives to describe how pretty brasileiras are) with lovely tits. at this stage i can't see the ass as she is leaning against the bar and it is hidden in the low lighting. during the game, most of the girls sit/stand around looking fed up as most of the men are watching the soccer. after the game (adios portugal), the girls, including my beauty, come into the main bar area to shake their booty and sell themselves. what an ass! my fate is set, she and i are going to spend some time together tonight, and soon. after an agonising 10 minutes or so where she can see that i'm interested and is letting me see the goods but i'm trying to play it cool and check out a few other girls so as not to appear to desperate to get my hands on her (but at the same time worried that someone else will grab her first) i motion her over. her name is lavinia and she is perfect. she speaks reasonable english but lets me practice my poor porto on her, even giving me some impromptu language lessons. we sit and talk, she starts eating my mouth and ears. this is the brasileira i have been looking for so far this holiday – beautiful, sexy as hell and ready to go. i run through the famous bwana dik list. she replies "what do you want me to do? i do everything except girls", "my ass is yours, i want your leite in my ass". we talk, kiss (dfk) and grope for half an hour or so – in this time she is not pushy about going to the cabine (even though she tells me that in the 4 hours she has been there she has had no action – true or not she is not trying to rush the deal), doesn't want a drink, even water. so we head off for the best hour of the holiday so far. dfk, bbbj, daty (tongue but no fingers) and then she offers her ass. sorry but izzy and talita don't compare to this girl. cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggy, missionary. every time i head for the pussy she says no. "only my ass". that's fine with me! more bbbj. i finish off by eating her pussy, the phone rings we ignore it and finish the job. shower, change, back to copa for food, drinks etc. what a night.
total cost = r$281 (entrance, 1 water, 1 soda, 1 hour (r$220, 40 mins = r$200).
halfway through the holiday now. will report back on the second half later.
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[QUOTE=Chief Justice]Wow going raw in Brazil huh? Doesn't Brazil have one of the highest aids rates in the world? I'm not here to tell anybody what to do or not to do but you better be careful. And also, even if you don't get aids, but what if you get burnt and you have to go on meds on your vacation for about a week or more? So basically you would have to cut your trip short because you are burning. Hey, its your body and your health.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you but probably you are wasting your time. Anyway, PPs stories are entertaining and capture the 'flavor' of Rio so thanks to PP for that but I take the grittier parts with a grain of salt. All the CIM with swallow, ass licking and barebacking may be true. I'm sure some of it is. but, all of it? Ache que nao.
But,hey, what do I know. Whatever, it is entertaining.
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[QUOTE=Fred100]PP
I always use condoms for intercourse. I contracted a antibiotic resistant strain of gonorrhea ... [/QUOTE]
Too much information. Try the Safe Sex Forum [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=268[/url]
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[QUOTE=Fred100]... The prostitutes can carry these strains in their throat for weeks, with little or no symptoms...[/QUOTE]
So strains in their throat give no sympotms but once they do BBBJ you get STD ???
So you get this strain even for DFK, right ?
It seems a BS to me, but hey, I am not a doctor...
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[QUOTE=Fred100]PP
I always use condoms for intercourse. I contracted a antibiotic resistant strain of gonorrhea last year (painful and took weeks to get rid of). On that visit, I only had sex with girls at L'uomo and Monte Carlo. I can only think that it was transferred by BBBJ. The urologists in Rio and London informed me that oral sex has become a major concern for the transfer of STD's. .[/QUOTE]
That is terrible, I am glad that you are doing better. You say it was antibiotic resistant? So how did the Dr treat you? You say it is "Painful"? How so, did it hurt when you were pissing or hurt all the time? I have never contracted anything yet, but I have had unprotected oral sex with hundreds of rio girls. Your report makes me rethink my uncovered actions. I wonder if you can catch gonorhea from kissing too.....
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PP's post just reinforced my fears.
Hi Poucolouco
Sorry for the clutter.
PP's post just reinforced my fears.
Thought I drop it in. It always amazes me when chatting to the some of the guys. So many mongers are most definitely not aware of the real dangers of commercial sex. When chatting to some, the ideas they have on what is safe sex is pure fantasy. Just in the last few months three guys that I know who work in Rio have contract STD's. One of which is having sever problems getting it cleared (he is a terrible state as it looks like there could be permanent damage). These are just the ones I've heard about.
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Took weeks to fix
[QUOTE=Bravo]That is terrible, I am glad that you are doing better. You say it was antibiotic resistant? So how did the Dr treat you? You say it is "Painful"? How so, did it hurt when you were pissing or hurt all the time? I have never contracted anything yet, but I have had unprotected oral sex with hundreds of rio girls. Your report makes me rethink my uncovered actions. I wonder if you can catch gonorrhea from kissing too.....[/QUOTE]Hi Bravo
Uncomfortable and very painful when pissing for the first week. Needed three treatments using three different antibiotics. Took weeks to fix.
I know the both doctors I saw said the same thing. I was a little surprised at how common oral transfer of STD's are. Are plenty of online clinics that will give you the most up to date advice on this. Or chat with your own urologist on your next check.
Don't think kissing is much of a risk with gonorrhea, apparently it resides at the back of the throat. Again have a chat with your doc on the next visit.
Mind you I have on a few occasions in the termas smelt that musky sex smell on a girls breath from the last guy.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]So strains in their throat give no sympotms but once they do BBBJ you get STD ???
So you get this strain even for DFK, right ?
It seems a BS to me, but hey, I am not a doctor...[/QUOTE]I was surprised myself. I have heard it many times before from the guys I work and travel with, however you can't be certain they used a condom for intercourse.
The urologist I saw in London did go into some detail about this. He told me oral transfers are on the increase. Have a chat with your urologist on your next check, to dispel any myths.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]That is terrible, I am glad that you are doing better. You say it was antibiotic resistant? So how did the Dr treat you? You say it is "Painful"? How so, did it hurt when you were pissing or hurt all the time? I have never contracted anything yet, but I have had unprotected oral sex with hundreds of Rio girls. Your report makes me rethink my uncovered actions. I wonder if you can catch gonorhea from kissing too.[/QUOTE]I have never been to Rio but I was wondering, whn you choose a chick in the termas, do they brush their teeth and use mouthwash before a session?
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]I agree with you but probably you are wasting your time. Anyway, PPs stories are entertaining and capture the 'flavor' of Rio so thanks to PP for that but I take the grittier parts with a grain of salt. All the CIM with swallow, ass licking and barebacking may be true. I'm sure some of it is. but, all of it? Ache que nao.
But,hey, what do I know. Whatever, it is entertaining.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I know what I am doing and the risks. Frankly, I don't know why anyone cares who is doing what. I am just informing people on what happens so that they can see what's possible if you ask or go for it, and would hope that ISG is the one place in the world where a monger can go and not have someone trying to pass judgement. 'Normal' people with Western ethics and principals consider vanilla mongering as gross as mongers consider some of my stuff, so it's all relative.
Please don't insinuate that my reports might be exaggerated, as I've spent a lot of time on my trip writing and trying to get photos to inform people..and long nights typing this stuff up. It takes away my motivation to post, because I could be doing other things like more girls or actually getting some decent sleep.
I really do all the stuff that's posted, but that's just my style because I like nasty sloppy stuff and I work toward it. It's the only that that entertains me anymore, and the nastier the better. I have 200 reports, most containing information relevant to finding willing girls to do GFE, bareback FS, and dominatrix services in several countries. I've even posted a bareback penetration pic in the Jakarta pix in April (not bragging), so my credibility is 100%. So the accusation that any of it is false is offensive. I come here to provide real and valuable information because ISG is a treasure to me and I've gotten so much, I want to give back.
You could stop into Rua Ouvidor 130 707 and ask Marcella about the gringo that 'brings milk'. She says she's a cat and likes to drink my milk. We are both nasty. ;) I went back there again today and she swallowed again today too. Believe it or not. And so that this post is useful, I add the following:
Rua Ouvidor 130 707 is open until 7 pm. M-F. So when Prazer and all the others are closed you still have an option.
The cambio in second floor of the Mohoghany bldg on Rio Branco one block north of Vargas is giving me 1.85 R per USD and xe.com quotes out 1.80. I recommend this cambio.
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[QUOTE=Chief Justice]I have never been to Rio but I was wondering, whn you choose a chick in the termas, do they brush their teeth and use mouthwash before a session?[/QUOTE]
Most of the girls brush their teeth. However, one very popular girl I knew only used mouthwash. Her rationale was that brushing her teeth might cause bleeding and consequentially infections.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Most of the girls brush their teeth. However, one very popular girl I knew only used mouthwash. Her rationale was that brushing her teeth might cause bleeding and consequentially infections.[/QUOTE]
Fine as far as it goes. But some health sites recommend against using alcohol-based mouthwash beforehand on the basis that it makes the skin slightly inflamed and therefore more susceptible. Personally I often use it afterwards. Having exceedingly clean teeth generally and sharing a glass of whatever beforehand usually works fine. One of the few luxuries i carry even in carry-on -only luggage is an electric toothbrush.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa] ..
So the accusation that any of it is false is offensive. I come here to provide real and valuable information because ISG is a treasure to me and I've gotten so much, I want to give back.
...[/QUOTE]
No need to be offended. I just take it as poetic license. Like I said maybe it is all true. Anyway, the point was to avoid all the hand-wringing posts over the dangers you might pose to yourself and the rest of us. As far as the danger to rest of us, I just assume they have all been doing the kind of things you describe. Your previous posts on antibiotic treatments says it all -- that such practices have their downsides as well.
Another thing that puzzles me is all the concern over whether there is a shower or not while engaging in barebacking. Do people think AIDS washes off? But, whoever said that people are rational.
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Just little note on "std's": doctors often times just treat you without determining if there is actually an infection. trauma to the urethra (sometimes happens during rough sex or if you have an accident in the sack knock your cock on the nightstand etc) can cause it to become inflamed. so can injury to the lower abdominal region. so if you have no clinical signs of infection, and antibiotics don't cure it, but it goes away a few weeks/months later, it is possible this is what happened to you. the relgious right and feminazi left like to exaggerate for their respective political agendas dangers of uncovered sex, as do doctors (means more money for them).
so puta playa, drive on, let's see some more bbfs pictures, i already assume every girl in the termas is doing several guys bareback, how is one more going to pose any additional risk to other mongers?
I also understand the shower: I dont even like the smell god forbid taste of my own slobber and cum all over a girls chest and pussy, much less someone else's, or smell of her ass... plus pussy hot and wet from shower is more fun to lick.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Yes, I know what I am doing and the risks. Frankly, I don't know why anyone cares who is doing what. I am just informing people on what happens so that they can see what's possible if you ask or go for it, and would hope that ISG is the one place in the world where a monger can go and not have someone trying to pass judgement. 'Normal' people with Western ethics and principals consider vanilla mongering as gross as mongers consider some of my stuff, so it's all relative. You could stop into Rua Ouvidor 130 707 and ask Marcella about the gringo that 'brings milk'. She says she's a cat and likes to drink my milk. We are both nasty. ;) I went back there again today and she swallowed again today too. Believe it or not. And so that this post is useful....[/QUOTE]Dude, seriously, no judgement implied. You go bareback <em>downtown</em>?
I mean real honest question: do you have a death wish or are you attempting to transform your body into a human petri dish?
As for people "caring", they should care: protected and unprotected sex are orders of magnitude different in terms of their risks. You say you do this all the time, even in Thailand. It's not a stretch of the immagination, then, to wonder if you aren't spreading STDs in Rio, is it?
Yeah, I think people should be worried. Judging you? I think it's more a question of judgement, myself. I know I'll be looking at Ouvidor 130 and 22 with different eyes for the foreseeable future.
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Not to start a war here, it drives me nuts when others begin to look out for what is best for me weather it is an individual or the government (bbbj what ever). Simple, don't want to have a motorcycle accident don't ride a motorcycle. Don't want to have risk of std do not mongle. It drives me nuts when someone goes to great club and thinks they get something there and report it was the girls the club the country what ever. That bull shit its your fault you made the choice be a man and live with it. Your don't like the game, get married stay at home no problem.
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[QUOTE=John Cricket]Dude, seriously, no judgement implied. You go bareback <em>downtown</em>?
I mean real honest question: do you have a death wish or are you attempting to transform your body into a human petri dish?
As for people "caring", they should care: protected and unprotected sex are orders of magnitude different in terms of their risks. You say you do this all the time, even in Thailand. It's not a stretch of the immagination, then, to wonder if you aren't spreading STDs in Rio, is it?
Yeah, I think people should be worried. Judging you? I think it's more a question of judgement, myself. I know I'll be looking at Ouvidor 130 and 22 with different eyes for the foreseeable future.[/QUOTE]I agree.
After last years painful and worrying experience. Even without the worry of HIV. Things have changed over the last ten years due to the global abuse of antibiotics. There are more things emerging that have the potential to kill or at least have life changing effects. Antibiotics are no longer the magic bullets against some STD's. Far too many self centered irresponsible mongers swimming in the same very small pond.
The timing always sucks. Not many of us are prepared to fess up to what we get up to in fantasy land to the people in our real world. This means the inevitable 8 and 12 week full check before having sex with friends.
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keep the percentage of risk down
[QUOTE=Strikesfun]Not to start a war here, it drives me nuts when others begin to look out for what is best for me weather it is an individual or the government (bbbj what ever). Simple, don't want to have a motorcycle accident don't ride a motorcycle. Don't want to have risk of std do not mongle. It drives me nuts when someone goes to great club and thinks they get something there and report it was the girls the club the country what ever. That bull shit its your fault you made the choice be a man and live with it. Your don't like the game, get married stay at home no problem.[/QUOTE]We all like to indulge once in a while. It's just a shame that some are not even prepared to follow the basic rules to keep the percentage of risk down.
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Puta Playa Field Report Part VII
If people feel compelled to scold me, please do it by PM. It's not informational for the rest of the board who just come here to hear about the ins and outs of finding sex.
Here goes a short field report on Uru 210 and Florida.
I didn’t report yesterday because I had stayed at Club Florida until something like 4 AM Wednesday hitting my quota of 4 girls for that day, and then up till 8 AM writing that long report. So I slept until 2 pm and was feeling kind of glum and not motivated so I only scored an additional 2 yesterday.
One was a repeat, Marcella at Ouvidor 130 707. I had to wait for someone to hop off of her, so I didn’t do DATY but it was BBBJ, FS, and CIM with swallow. She speaks English. I asked her if she wants the leite and eventually while we are fucking she told me that she was ready to drink because she’s a cat and likes to drink milk. Nice since of humor and good atttitude. So I shot and she swallowed like the first time that I did her. I didn’t take more pix because I already posted some here before when I sessioned her the first time.
Later, at about 9pm, I left for North Centro and stopped by Uruguania 210 on the north corner with Vargas. Wow, it was actually open. There is what seems to be a door man, but no cover. I had barely got into the boite before I was picked off by a girl, and she was the best looking of the, maybe, 6. She has a really great attitude, but was hungry..I mean absolutely hungry, for work. The minute I stepped in the door she grabbed the price list and showed it to me. I told her to wait, cause I need a beer. Beer was R$4. Session pricing was R20/10 (who the hell does 10?), R30/15, R55/30, and went up from there. It says they have suites for higher prices. I don’t know who would want them. It’s open from 7-1 M-F.
The setup at U210 is about like BA85, pay the woman at the register, there’s a small raised bed, etc. I sessioned the best looking of the 6 in the place, a mullata named Paulina, because she looked hot in the boite. She had nice tits and a nice face, but that’s about the end of the looks. We sessioned for 30/R55. DFK, BBBJ, FS of course, and I could have done CIM by agreement, but refrained from popping because I didn’t want to spend what little drive I had left yesterday. I was ultimately bound for Florida to grab some more there.
I spent about 3 hours in Florida. I advise to either go there early, or go there late. If you go early at 7 or so you might miss the crowd of men, if you go after 1:30 the place is finally in full swing with up to 20 girls. I noticed again that many more better girls roll in just after 1 AM, and Aquarios closes at that time. So I think they are termas girls and that’s a cheap place to session them for ½ price or so. I left Florida without sessioning anything, I just wasn’t in the mood.
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Puta Playa Field Report Part VIII
Today I am reporting mid day on 2 good sessions so far and a new place that I visited. First, the new place. I went to Rio Branco 156 sala 126 looking for Geovana, she’s supposed to be an anal princess. When I got there, the girl inside said Geovana was busy for an hour and had I called in advance? I said no and she asked me how I knew where the casa was located if I didn’t call..haha, is it supposed to be secret? I told her that a friend recommended the sala and Geovana to me. I left without sessioning. Perhaps someone wants to check it out. I don’t have time as I fly out tommorow and have other things to do.
So then I went to Riio Branco 156 looking for another GPGuia anal recommendation, Elisa. They said she was busy. There was a small mullata there that was doable, Juliana, plus the doorgirl who was not. Someone might be interested in checking out Elisa.
Then I went to Bel Prazer to see who was available. I gave this place poor ratings for Isabela last year, and everyone here tore me up for sneaking cum in her mouth. But I am running out of “A” score good leads so I decided to go there. I picked Duda from the crew. I don’t like her face and she has slightly too much weight, but she’s completa and I needed one more anal session on this trip. I only did one last time in town, but it was 150% GFE at Flavia Massagens (here’s to the late great casa, Cheers).
So Duda and I went back. I took the pic that is posted in the pic thread. She gave a killer deep throat BBBJ and about broke my cock on the back of her throat. It hurt. Then FS, then anal. I reamed her butt for about 10 minutes. The room was stinking like a dumpster. There was a little piece of shit on the condom when I pulled out. I thought that I should not do anal again, although Pietra at Luomo had the class to use an enema before because it was odorless, so you win some and you lose some. If you must fuck something in the ass, and do it for cheap and sure bet, Duda is your girl. But I don’t recommend it. I didn’t pop on her because I am saving the load for either Miss Bareback or someone at 4x4 tonight. She was perturbed and about yanked my cock off trying to get me to come, just like another girl a couple days ago.
So I left there and went to Rio Branco 156 sala 2622. Centro Star Massagen. I picked Thais, a stunning black girl. This is an odd trip, as I have done quite a few mullatas and black girls and prior to this trip, I had never sessioned either. Just not my preference usually, but I’ve really mixed it up this time, all kinds and colors when they look good and have a good attitude. But if one was going to make me go black, it would have been this one. Absolutely fabulous heavy natural tits, nice legs, nice ass, not muscular, beautiful face, good attitude. I paid R100 for an hour per the casa pricing and then she hit me up for R70 for anal. This is about R20 higher than what the Brasilados on GPGuia have been paying for anal adder, I think, at some of the casas. This is my last full day here, and it was termas quality session so I wasn’t going to do my typical bargaining, and not in the middle of a good GFE fuck. So I ended up reaming her bottom, which did *not* stink when I fucked it, and it was a great time. She tried to hit me up for $50 to CIM, but I declined. I don’t ever pay extra for CIM, plus I didn’t want to pop cause I am saving sperm for someone else ***, so it didn’t bother me but in other situations it probably would have. This was the first time I’ve been hit in a casa for extra services. I hadn’t intended to do her anal, or I would have asked in the interview. But once in session, it was such a good session that I had no problem with it. YMMV. People speak of bargaining in Bar 22 as well fo extras, but I think it is just dependent on the girl. If she likes you, or it turns her on, then of course Miss Bareback doesn’t charge me anything extra for cumming anywhere I want. I fucked her twice and have talked to her all of about 2 minutes, so we have no rapport and I think creampie just turns her on.
For this trip, I think am done with anal and will just focus more on pussy and finding CIM girls. Now, off to 4x4 or somewhere..ate logo.
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What is GFE??
PP, great vibrant reports, congratulations.
You just got me a bit confused, man, what is your actual definiition of "GFE"?
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[QUOTE=Beach Star]PP, great vibrant reports, congratulations.
You just got me a bit confused, man, what is your actual definiition of "GFE"?[/QUOTE]
GFE in my terms is that you would not know that you're dealing with a hooker that you just met and doesn't care whether you live or die, because she is all over you doing whatever like your hormonal high school girlfriends proabably used to be.
I know to some guys, GFE means they have girl that comes and stays with them and acts like a girlfiend or wife for money, go to dinner, fuck, etc but I just fuck them and leave them... so GFE in my reports means that they are working extraordinarly hard to please the customer, far beyond what it takes it get paid.
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So much for the %'s.
Today, in a casa in Centro, my camisinha broke, and I gave my full load of leite deep in the buceta. Shit happens, thats part of the risks that come with this kind of fun. I always use protection, yet unpredictable things happen. It was one of the higher end casas, so I hope that lessens the % of getting something.
The gal told me she is clean ( Yea right, thats what everyone says. ), and that she takes birth control pill just in case. LOL, I should have banged her in the ass.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]....I should have banged her in the ass.[/QUOTE]
My friend got Streptococcus faecalis from anal sex with her gf: I always use condom even for anal....
Btw I try to get BBBJ all the time I can, but I went bareback only with 4 long term girlfriends, with all the others despite oral sex.... condoms, condoms and condoms and ZERO infection in 16 years of very active sexual life....
That's why I smile when somebody says he got STD from oral sex and I do not believe him, I am pretty sure they went bareback in the pussy or ass and they are too weak to admit.....
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Puta Playa, thanks.
PP, thanks a lot for your entertaining reports and great photos. The reports are very much appreciated.
Never mind all the bs-comments from the "Rio-experts" trying to teach you how to have safe sex. You are an adult and you know the rules of the games. Keep on reporting, PP.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]My friend got Streptococcus faecalis from anal sex with her gf: I always use condom even for anal.
BTW I try to get BBBJ all the time I can, but I went bareback only with 4 long term girlfriends, with all the others despite oral sex. Condoms, condoms and condoms and ZERO infection in 16 years of very active sexual life.
That's why I smile when somebody says he got STD from oral sex and I do not believe him, I am pretty sure they went bareback in the pussy or ass and they are too weak to admit.[/QUOTE]I would love to turn the clock back, but the reality is the the game has changed. Having these idiots running around with no respect for the girls or themselves. Pollutes the pond and just kills it for the rest of us. There are too many that don't have a life outside of mongering.
If he gets hit I doubt he will post here.
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Lukasek...what I mean't......
Even when banging garotas in the ass, I also use condoms. What I was referring to in my earlier post is that at least one would have one less thing to be worried about ( pregnancy ) if they shot their load in the garotas ass instead of her pu**y.
I agree with Sperto about PP reports. Thanks for the info. and laughs.
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Puta Playa Field Report Part IX
hello again. i think this will be my final field report for this trip. i’ll may session one or 2 more before the flight, but at 4x4, so there will probably be nothing new or unique to say. loiras, big bundas, big money. it’s all been said before.
thanks sperto, mangera and others for the support. and to the rabble rousers, study more closely, your rubbers aren’t protecting you against some real nasties like crabs from pube contact or herpes which comes from any skin contact..so think about that the next time you go dfk or daty or fs and enjoy the thought, courtesy pp. and yes i do have a ‘real’ life outside of mongering and in fact don’t even come here or anywhere else just for mongering. i get paid to go places, so it’s just a fringe benefit for me to stay and do some foreign pubic relations work.
i’ll try to summarize what it’s like mongering the low end. i had a goal of averaging 3 girls per day, cim whenever possible, and at least one anal session on the trip. easy job if you are mongering termas or escorts, but a fun challenge when you are mongering at well under $r100 per session and keeping activities mainly in centro. i wanted to do it this way because i like the gritty realism of the lower end parts of cities, especially at night, and in rio i’ve enjoyed running around in the back streets taking night photos of stark images like urban decay of the old portuguese style buildings, trash covered streets, rats, workmen, various oddities that you would never see past the teeming masses of the daytime crowds, etc.
i went back to the reports and counted and it looks like this is the breakdown.
7 days total, roughly
19 girls
22 sessions
i am 2 down from my goal of 21 girls, but still happy. the first time i came to brasil it was only 6 girls in that 6 days, last time it was only 7 in 4 days. as i learn, my rate has increased.
here is what i learned:
centro has an undeserved reputation for being particularly dangerous at night, even amongst my carioca colleagues. i can walk anywhere i want, dark alleys, main streets, anywhere; even at 3 in the morning, and no one is tailing me. perhaps the people that have problems are dressed inappropriately or act nervous, like a target. i’ve been sized up several times by groups of up to 3 guys passing by, but they seem to decide they are not interested. in detroit or south chicago, my skin color would make me a target. here, you can blend no matter what you look like.
the girls in centro and vm are much closer to ‘real people’ than the termas girls in copa. they are girls that need to make a living, and maybe didn’t go to finishing school. for the most part, they want to cover things when possible because they aren’t getting happy and rich off of screwing you like termas girls. they are getting fucked for the price of 2 square meals at a kilo place, mainly by blue collar brasilados who seem to have little class and even less money to spend. for this low price, they risk herpes, get saturated with sweat, smell the crothches of guys who have not bathed all day, and for the most part seem to get very few sessions for the time spent in the bars. brasilados typically cruise into the bar, drink a couple beers, talk to the girls, and leave.
i sessioned in u210, ba85, vila mimosa, bar 22, florida, luomo, and about 4 apartments. english was never spoken except at luomo and by marcella at o130. you need to have some basic understanding of porto to interview properly and get what you want. if the girl says no, try again in session. sometimes she doesn’t want to agree to do certain things when she is standing in earshot of her colleagues. even hos have a sense of modesty.
whenever possible, take the bus. you get to see the city, the wind blowing in your face through the window feels nice, and it will be your only economical option for long distance travel after 12 am on m-f or 11 pm on sunday when the metro is closed.
in ba85, vm, and especially club florida, you can find stunners that are termas quality. it’s easier to find high quality in these places than in most of the apartments, but the service is generally covered. if you are the type of guy that gets turned on by cbj and cfs and can come this way, definitely make the trip to these places and you’ll be rewarded. in florida, the quality is much higher than in the others, but uncovered or special services typically need to be negotiated in portuguese. have them repeat it back to you so there is no misunderstanding or ‘out.’
if you want a girl to take cim, ask her to drink your milk. if you want photos, ask her ‘can we take some sexy photos together?” if you want anal, ask if she fucks in the cu or culo. if the girl is giving you a hard time about photos, whip out the camera and take a pic of your cock. they find it funny and it loosens them up to having photos of themselves. if you need to escape an apartment of dog-like girls, ask who wants to be fucked in the ass. none of them will say yes in front of their friends, then say thanks and walk out. al the phrases are in the language thread and forvo.com gives pronunciations for most things.
so, i will close out with tonights’ activities. after anal fucking the 2 girls without popping in the apartments today, i was thinking of either ba85+4x4, or going to plant my babies down in copa and then coming back to 4x4. i ended up stopping in ba85 about 6:30 and it was a madhouse. the stairs were a jungle gym, guys on the stairs clinging to everything in their reach to keep balance, a constant stream both ways. very busy. i made it to floor 2, got a beer and was picked off by a tight body milf. i asked if she does photos and she said no, so i told her to go. i spotted a young one, probably 22, with 8/10 body and face and aked her to do 20 minutes. she had nice tits for such a slender girl, and gave a nice cbj. i asked her for photos and she wanted $r20 for that. i said no, i don’t pay for pics. so we fucked. i had her feet pushed way back past her head with toes against the wall and ass off the bed, absolutely railing her pussy to the point that her butt bones were hurting me. it was fun. i don’t know why girls that good looking want to work at ba85 for next to nothing, but it suits me fine.
i decided that the girl at bar 22 has been the best one of the trip, even if it were not for the bbfs, just based on attentive service, perfect perception and synchronization during the act, and smooth soft body feel… so i had to go back and session her. she barebacks me and i don’t know why, and she makes sex like she’s making love instead of like a porn girl, plus, crazy jim wood needs bbfs pictures and i can’t let the man down. proof is in the pussy. :) i won’t post the pic here, cause i don’t want jackson to have to buy a new server to handle all the flames and spam that would result, but if anyone really wants to see just pm and i’ll email to you sometime in the next couple weeks when i get back home and situated.
i arrived at bar 22 via metro, uruguania to siquiera campos, about 8:30. i walked up the counter and asked mama if the girl was there, and she said yes. i told her that i just wanted a programma, but mama insisted that i pay the r12 for the entrance and 3 beers. i did so. when i walked into the boite, miss bareback was sitting with a brasilado. i ordered a beer and sat down. i made sure that she’d seen me, then walked to the stairs outside to smoke (apparently only copa follows the no smoking rule, all the dive places in centro are puffing away. ). about 2 minutes later, she showed up at the stairs as i had expected she would. i told her i wanted a programma and she took off somewhere in the back. i went in and got another beer, paid for the programma and off we went. a cold shower and then it was down to business. dfk, some bbbj with pics (see the pic thread), a little daty to wet the works, and then on top for more dfk and to slip my little friend in there with tact and diplomacy. this time she made no pretense about wanting the rubber, rather she pushed up with the buceta and came up to meet it. excellent rhythmic bbfs for about 20 minutes, then i went balls deep and shot the load that i’d been saving since last night, and my little swimmers set sail on their futile journey. boa viagem.
the fuck room that we always used is over the café, it’s the third window from the right, if you are standing across the street from the café. she was still naked but started looking out the open window at something. i realized that people could see her from the street, so i got up near the window, put one foot one the wall and started shaking my dick and balls at people on the street. she was laughing hard. of course, no one was looking up there to see me. ;) next time you walk by, look up and see if something fun is going on. after we fucked, i realized that passers-by must be able to hear all the noise because the window was open to the street below. funny.
so after the fuck, we were smoking and making out. she got into making out, and mostly let her cigarette burn down without smoking it because she is actually in the moment. knowing how hos are about cigarettes, i was wondering if she’d eventually pull away to start puffing and keep that from going to waste, but no. it started to burn her finger and she threw it out the window really fast. i wonder if it hit someone walking in front of the café…beware of hos throwing lit cigarettes on you head. so mama called time, and we kept making out, and then mama started yelling at her to get out of there and she shook her head and cleared on out. unique gp. i think she likes her job. ;)
so i stopped for an espresso at tonelero right by sc station, had to relieve myself in the secondary way, pronto, but found no tp. ended up tearing the cardboard tp roll in half and using it like tp. what a low down and dirty trip; raw, stark, gritty, fuck, slop, juice, dirt, shit, sperm, breast milk even..these are just some of the words that apply. to paraphrase christopherd’s posts, i did in fact get my shoes dirty and i did in fact not have clean white sheets, and it was very good. my shoes bear the sludge of the dirty trash filled back streets and i’ve sessioned with one foot on the ground and a knee on the bed more often than i can count. ;) but i also got some freaky sex, and some love making sex, and some la porn-style sex, got the real flavor of the new/old city watching urban cariocas live their everyday lives day and night, and a whole lot of pics, and did all this in high speed + volume at low cost. so the choices were right. thanks to sperto and christopherd et. al for providing all the reconaissance and intelligence to make these field reports possible.
so rio was a blast this time. i think i’ll do it the same way over again the next time work calls me here, except less vm and florida and get to the hotel earlier so i feel better the next day for the apartments.
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Oil field trash I expect.
"And to the rabble rousers, study more closely, your rubbers aren’t protecting you against some real nasties like crabs from pube contact or herpes which comes from any skin contact..so think about that the next time you go DFK or DATY or FS and enjoy the thought, courtesy PP."
Fool! Crabs and herpes don't kill.
Oil field trash I expect.
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suggestion if someone has the time
I can't do it easily as I'm posting from a mobile phone, but if someone is both able and inclined to do so, pasting the links and so on, could I perhaps suggest that they might collect PPs recent reports and add them (as a bundle) on the reports of distinction thread?
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[QUOTE=Fred100]"And to the rabble rousers, study more closely, your rubbers aren’t protecting you against some real nasties like crabs from pube contact or herpes which comes from any skin contact..so think about that the next time you go DFK or DATY or FS and enjoy the thought, courtesy PP."
Fool! Crabs and herpes don't kill.
Oil field trash I expect.[/QUOTE]Had been wondering about why Continental reconfigured their GIG/GRU -- IAH/EWR connections until a couple weeks ago when I returned to Newark via Houston and learned why. Oil industry workers. Lots of them. Guess this might not be news to some guys here. Sure was a surprise to most of the Brazilians. It sure was funny seeing some of their kids experience firsthand the authentic American proletariat. Kids didn't know what they were beholding, such wide eyes and surprise trying to process the sight. Nothing like that in their world. Mine neither. Thanks to PP for the heads up.
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Faça como Dunga. Não use craque.
A lot of people crying in Rio today?
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You are not kidding.
[QUOTE=Sperto]A lot of people crying in Rio today?[/QUOTE]
I went to get a haircut today, and as I walk in the salon, two brothers ( I would estimate ages 8 - 10 yrs old ) were crying their heads off about the loss. For God's sake, it was an hour after the game.
I was pulling for Brasil, but two positives came out of this result.....1) I get to rag on my Brasilero amigos e amigas ( Pay back for the USA loss ), 2) I don't have to listen to those friggin horns any longer or listen to the artificial fireworks that are almost causing my ear's to ooze blood out.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]I went to get a haircut today, and as I walk in the salon, two brothers ( I would estimate ages 8 - 10 yrs old ) were crying their heads off about the loss. For God's sake, it was an hour after the game.
I was pulling for Brasil, but two positives came out of this result.....1) I get to rag on my Brasilero amigos e amigas ( Pay back for the USA loss ), 2) I don't have to listen to those friggin horns any longer or listen to the artificial fireworks that are almost causing my ear's to ooze blood out.[/QUOTE]
Saw the match here in a cafe in Europe (not that I care a lot, just too much time on my hands this afternoon). What REALLY cracks me up is the unbelievable number of people (gringos and gringas) who fall for the "Brasilmania" BS (flagged teeshirts, girls with yellow and green nails, batucada drums, ect, ect). That's totally silly. And all this from people who probably never spent more than a few weeks in Rio or Salvador (for the minority that has actually travelled to Brasil). Really silly. Many gringos are often more into the pure folkloristic BS than - educated - brasilian people ; kind of reminds me the twirps that inevitably promotion and propone the so-called "brasilian culture" here.
Don't know why Brasil drags so much "flag waving" silly gringo fans. It's actually astonishing. Like if myself wore a russian flagged tee shirt when I go to see a Bianka concert, or a french flagged tee-shirt as soon as I listen at Johnny Hallyday. :)
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Riddle
[QUOTE=Mangera]I went to get a haircut today, and as I walk in the salon, two brothers ( I would estimate ages 8 - 10 yrs old ) were crying their heads off about the loss. For God's sake, it was an hour after the game.
I was pulling for Brasil, but two positives came out of this result.....1) I get to rag on my Brasilero amigos e amigas ( Pay back for the USA loss ), 2) I don't have to listen to those friggin horns any longer or listen to the artificial fireworks that are almost causing my ear's to ooze blood out.[/QUOTE]Q: What do Dunga's coaching style, Melo and Puta Player all have in common?
A: They all suck ass.
I am in Vegas and actually put my money on the Netherlands. I was not impressed as Dunga took their style of play away. Now to add insult to injury: Argentina takes it all.
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Double map the links
[QUOTE=Christopherd]I can't do it easily as I'm posting from a mobile phone, but if someone is both able and inclined to do so, pasting the links and so on, could I perhaps suggest that they might collect PPs recent reports and add them (as a bundle) on the reports of distinction thread?[/QUOTE]May I also suggest that add them to the safe sex in Brasil thread?
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Saw the match here in a cafe in Europe (not that I care a lot, just too much time on my hands this afternoon). What REALLY cracks me up is the unbelievable number of people (gringos and gringas) who fall for the "Brasilmania" BS (flagged teeshirts, girls with yellow and green nails, batucada drums, ect, ect). That's totally silly. And all this from people who probably never spent more than a few weeks in Rio or Salvador (for the minority that has actually travelled to Brasil). Really silly. Many gringos are often more into the pure folkloristic BS than - educated - brasilian people ; kind of reminds me the twirps that inevitably promotion and propone the so-called "brasilian culture" here.
Don't know why Brasil drags so much "flag waving" silly gringo fans. It's actually astonishing. Like if myself wore a russian flagged tee shirt when I go to see a Bianka concert, or a french flagged tee-shirt as soon as I listen at Johnny Hallyday. :)[/QUOTE]Whats the purpose of making a post like this? Would you prefer they showed up in cheap funeral banker suits? Its like saying a fan of NFL or NBA should not wear a t shirt of the team they like. I don't get your comments your just looking to throw salt on brasil any chance you get. In fact you should have to pay 1 dollar for every bitter post against brasil from here on out. In the end you would be out about a grand.
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[QUOTE=Auriflama]Whats the purpose of making a post like this? Would you prefer they showed up in cheap funeral banker suits? Its like saying a fan of NFL or NBA should not wear a t shirt of the team they like. I don't get your comments your just looking to throw salt on brasil any chance you get. In fact you should have to pay 1 dollar for every bitter post against brasil from here on out. In the end you would be out about a grand.[/QUOTE]
No problems. But my post was not only about sport events, it was also about anything brasilian followed abroad. If you support the immoderate and silly flag-waving behavior of the "Brasil lovers" gringos and gringas fanatics (who predominantly don't know shit about this country, as you, it seems) who dress up in yellow and green for any brasilian event like concerts, events, sport, ect, then why, if you're a yankee, don't you also wear a US flagged tee-shirt on 4th of July?...or when you go to a B Spinsteen concert? ..this is EXACTLY the same behavior. Flag waving is just silly, be it for Brasil, for Turkey, for Uzbekistan, for US or for France. Especially when you don't know shit about a country, except about its stereotypes, which, from your posts, seems to be your case.
Your post WAS bitter. Mine was just objective.
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Brazil loses to the Netherlands
I know this is not a sport forum, but I couldn't pass.I will be brief:
1). I hope Kaka quit soccer and becomes a priest, because obviously he got serious mental problems in his head. And he can't play for his life.
2). For the last month, hundreds of Brazilians on the Globo wesbite have been warning that Felipe Melo (# 5) will score a goal against his team, then get expulsed from a game. That's what he always does in his Italian club. And guess what? Today, Felipe Melo scored a goal against his team, then get thrown out from the game. I couldn't stop laughing while watching the game.
Good ridance, Dunga, Kaka, G. Silva, and never again shall you wear the yellow shirt
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Saw the match here in a cafe in Europe (not that I care a lot, just too much time on my hands this afternoon). What REALLY cracks me up is the unbelievable number of people (gringos and gringas) who fall for the "Brasilmania" BS (flagged teeshirts, girls with yellow and green nails, batucada drums, ect, ect). That's totally silly. And all this from people who probably never spent more than a few weeks in Rio or Salvador (for the minority that has actually travelled to Brasil). Really silly. Many gringos are often more into the pure folkloristic BS than - educated - brasilian people ; kind of reminds me the twirps that inevitably promotion and propone the so-called "brasilian culture" here.
Don't know why Brasil drags so much "flag waving" silly gringo fans. It's actually astonishing. Like if myself wore a russian flagged tee shirt when I go to see a Bianka concert, or a french flagged tee-shirt as soon as I listen at Johnny Hallyday. :)[/QUOTE]Thanks for updating us about your activities in Europe on a Rio de Janeiro forum. Very relevant here.
Perhaps you don't understand the concept that some sports teams, franchises and brands transcend state or national boundries. You see NY Yankess caps and logos all around the world. I am sure even in your beloved FSU.
As a betting man, I took the Netherlands as I did not like the play of Brazil in this World Cup competition. They got away from their style of play and played Dunga's game.
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[QUOTE=Tiradentes]Brazil loses to the Netherlands [/QUOTE]
Honestly, this is of absolutely no importance; no one gives a shit, except brasilians and brasilians wannabes, who want to continue with the brasilian "dominancy" on all things.
More important is that Ghana losed. It's a whole continent that losed hope and is now in mourning. Some 1 billion +++ people for who advancing in World Cup was an excessively important pride. A very rare pride african people can hope about.
You guys should put things in perspectives when you rave about Brasil.
Honestly, when I see those gringo Brasil fans who cry about Brasil defeat and don't even care about Ghana lose, I really feel sorry about their obtuseness.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Honestly, this is of absolutely no importance; no one gives a shit, except brasilian and brasilians wannabes.
More important is that Ghana losed. It's a whole continent that losed hope and is now in mourning.[/QUOTE]The World Cup is a joke. The officiating is criminal, the play is horrendous and the hype is unbearable. And FIFA is full of itself and won't change a thing. Those idiots love the controversy because it makes headlines. This is why the US has not embraced "soccer" as a major sport (which is actually an English term, not American).
Glad to see you are so caring and concerned about the African continent. Who knew you had it in you. But they "lost" because they choked. It is sports.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Honestly, this is of absolutely no importance; no one gives a shit, except brasilians and brasilians wannabes.
More important is that Ghana losed. It's a whole continent that losed hope and is now in mourning. Some 1 billion ++ people for who World Cup was a civic pride.[/QUOTE]
You're wrong. It is important for the following reason:
Kaka is a religious nutcase. I am glad he won't have the entire world attention on July 11 to spew his hate and dogma. I for once did not want to see: 'I belong to Je&us' shirt, or witness mass praying in the middle of the field.
Also, see Kaka preach about morals in post 1206 at .
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2193[/url]
Post # 1206
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[QUOTE=Tiradentes]Kaka is a religious nutcase. I am glad he won't have the entire world attention on July 11 to spew his hate and dogma. I for once did not want to see: 'I belong to Je&us' shirt, or witness mass praying in the middle of the field[/QUOTE]
FYI Kaka is a representative part of the brasilian population. Brasil has the largest born-again xtian evangelist population in the world, with about 24% being part of the born-again Evangelical community (from a 2006 survey).
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[QUOTE=Prosal]No problems. But my post was not only about sport events, it was also about anything brasilian followed abroad. If you support the immoderate and silly flag-waving behavior of the "Brasil lovers" gringos and gringas fanatics (who predominantly don't know shit about this country, as you, it seems) who dress up in yellow and green for any brasilian event like concerts, events, sport, ect, then why, if you're a yankee, don't you also wear a US flagged tee-shirt on 4th of July?...or when you go to a B Spinsteen concert? ..this is EXACTLY the same behavior. Flag waving is just silly, be it for Brasil, for Turkey, for Uzbekistan, for US or for France. Especially when you don't know shit about a country, except about its stereotypes, which, from your posts, seems to be your case.
Your post WAS bitter. Mine was just objective.[/QUOTE]They need to know something about the country to wave a flag, Thats funny! Come on they were really supporting 4x4 and luomo.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Q: What do Dunga's coaching style, Melo and Puta Player all have in common?
A: They all suck ass.
I am in Vegas and actually put my money on the Netherlands. I was not impressed as Dunga took their style of play away. Now to add insult to injury: Argentina takes it all.[/QUOTE]It was the goal keepers fault they lost so if not for him brazil wins and there is no talk of the coach. Also the other idiot kicking the player while he was down forcing the brasilians to play 1 man short.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Don't know why Brasil drags so much "flag waving" silly gringo fans. It's actually astonishing. QUOTE]People like / enjoy what they perceive as the happy/spontaneous carefree, joyous style of Brasilians and want to identify. That's simply the way well-adjusted people express their feelings about things they like and enjoy. Conversely, when people go to France and experience rudeness and froggish behavior, they are repulsed. It's actually not so astonishing at all: it is simply expressing human emotion.
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Rednecks are back
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]when people go to France and experience rudeness and froggish behavior, they are repulsed.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah ? ...that is why France is world's top tourist destination, with some 80 millions inbound tourists arrival each year ? :rolleyes:
FYI Bubba, the J.W Bush era and its hatred of everything french is over. Seems you are nostalgic though. Why am I not surprised ?
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[QUOTE=Auriflama]They need to know something about the country to wave a flag, Thats funny![/QUOTE]
You didn't get my point obviously, which was that as soon as there is a brasilian event somewhere in the world (whatever it is, not just football), there's clowns who feel the need to dress up head to toe in yellow and green.
I personally find that is a pretty silly behaviour.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]You didn't get my point obviously, which was that as soon as there is a brasilian event somewhere in the world (whatever it is, I'm not talking just about football), there is clowns who feel the need to dress up head to toe in yellow and green.
I personally find that is a pretty silly behaviour. Like if I'd wear a french-flagged shirt as soon as I eat blue cheese.[/QUOTE]So what should they dress up in cheap funeral suits? Its not that serious, There are worse things going on like wall street, politicians, corporate america, obama, poverty, starvation lack of clean drinking water, modern medicine, prosal and obamas cheap funeral suits.
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[QUOTE=Tiradentes]You're wrong. It is important for the following reason:
Kaka is a religious nutcase. I am glad he won't have the entire world attention on July 11 to spew his hate and dogma. I for once did not want to see: 'I belong to Je&us' shirt, or witness mass praying in the middle of the field.
Also, see Kaka preach about morals in post 1206 at .
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2193[/url]
Post # 1206[/QUOTE]Kaka was not using the world cup to advance any of his personal beliefs anymore than any major sports figure. He was playing hard in the coach's style of play that did not fit the team's talent. What hate are you referring to? The guy does great things for Brazilian's poor, underpriviledged and abused. He gives freely of his time. Because he does not monger and is an advocate against kids being abused (which everyone should be against), he is "spewing hatred" and is a "nutcase"? What do you do to help less fortunate or those that can't help themsleves? Or is your sole reason for being simply to monger (which would be sad)? Or are you a perv that likes kids? Which is it?
And Prosal is correct, Kaka's views are very reflective of a large part of a sgement of Brazilian's population. I am not a religious person at all. I personally think organized religion can be evil. As history has shown. But you cannot try to discredit the good things someone is looking to do for others (whether in the name of religion or not) simply because he not share your views..
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[QUOTE=Prosal]You didn't get my point obviously, which was that as soon as there is a brasilian event somewhere in the world (whatever it is, not just football), there's clowns who feel the need to dress up head to toe in yellow and green.
I personally find that is a pretty silly behaviour.[/QUOTE]Ok, we get your point: you find it silly. Want to make a different point now?
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World Cup
Just in general, I'd advise anyone not to come down with the purpose of ISG activities during World Cup time, unless you have a lot of time to spend. On game days, even Centro goes absolutely dead and you cannot monger during this time. Its even hard to get food. Everything closes.
Fred100, no I'm not oil field trash. I'm an educated professional that does consulting. You have 29 posts of rubbish with no unique info or added value. I have 200+ posts directing people where, when, and how to find sex in Tokyo, Osaka, Jakarta, Mexico, and Rio. The next time you think about putting your hateful little fingers on that keyboard to slander a contributor, put them under the table and go look at my Rio or Jakarta pics or something. Maybe that will take the edge off.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Fred100, no I'm not oil field trash. I'm an educated professional that does consulting. You have 29 posts of rubbish with no unique info or added value. I have 200+ posts directing people where, when, and how to find sex in Tokyo, Osaka, Jakarta, Mexico, and Rio. The next time you think about putting your hateful little fingers on that keyboard to slander a contributor, put them under the table and go look at my Rio or Jakarta pics or something. Maybe that will take the edge off.[/QUOTE]I'm sure your a very enlightened Human Being. Thank you for your reports. They have given a lot of useful information. There might be a few more mongers out there who will think twice before paddling in your pond latex free.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]...why, if you're a yankee, don't you also wear a US flagged tee-shirt on 4th of July?...or when you go to a B Spinsteen concert? ..this is EXACTLY the same behavior. Flag waving is just silly, be it for Brasil, for Turkey, for Uzbekistan, for US or for France. Especially when you don't know shit about a country, except about its stereotypes, which, from your posts, seems to be your case...[/QUOTE]I think that there's one HUGE reason there and that has to do with the fact that the last time Brazil invaded another country was in 1865.
While I agree that flag-waving is silly, most Brazilians also know that. Brazilian patriotism is generally campy. Though there are always a few fools or drunks who take it seriously, of course, they are largely considered to be idiots by everyone else. No one calls for other people's suppression or censorship if they don't join in or even (cruzes!) go against patriotism. Yesterday at Balcony, there were two guys in Holland shirts. The girls gave them shit, of course, but it was good-natured shit.
Brazilian patriots by and large don't take themselves seriously while American patriots by and large do. Brazilians cheer when their team scores a goal. Americans cheer when their president bombs another country. Americans think that anyone who criticizes them is anti-American. Brazilians, today, are busily raspberrying their team and coach and planning for a better show in 2014.
I think that most of the world recognizes this difference and that's why people by-and-large find it fun to cheer for Brazil and look in askance at American patriotism.
(Finally, why in the hell would anyone other than a moron wear a USA shirt to a Springsteen concert, given that Springsteen is extremely critical of then U.S.? You do realize that the cover of "Born in the U.S.A." is meant to represent a working-class guy pissing on the flag...?)
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Oh yeah?. That is why France is world's top tourist destination, with some 80 millions inbound tourists arrival each year?
FYI Bubba, the J. W Bush era and its hatred of everything french is over. Seems you are nostalgic though. Why am I not surprised?[/QUOTE]So, you're French.
That explains it.
ROFLMAO
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[QUOTE=Fred100]I'm sure your a very enlightened Human Being. Thank you for your reports. They have given a lot of useful information. There might be a few more mongers out there who will think twice before paddling in your pond latex free.[/QUOTE]
He's not advising anyone to go latex free - if, like most of us, you do not go bareback, then it is your own protection that keeps you safe, not whether someone else has 'paddled' there - as usually there will be *someone* who has, and it's a big city. PP has given useful information on *finding* venues - and with additional info on navigating a complex city (I only know a few mongers, who, like myself, get buses everywhere whenever possible). He's also given info on prices, communicating, and various other things. The rest is up to you. Criticising another member's definition of what they consider safe sex is explicitly against forum rules, except in the dedicated board (see main menu). So he's quite correct. He's put in solid reports. Whether you want to take any notice, even if it is not to 'paddle' as you put it (He's seen maybe a couple of girls in venues that include several hundred - so you are going to rule out those major venues? Good luck. Why not just rule out Rio.)
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Puta Playa Field Report Part X Final
Christopherd is right. I don't condone anything unsafe. I usually wear one as you see from my pic of anal penetration of the girl named Thais. I even wear my seatbelt when I drive. Prior to Rena in Hotel Travel in Jakarta last April, who you can see over in that pics thread, I never barebacked a pro. Just her and this Gabrielle..I know, it only takes one..It's the most 'extreme sport' short of straight-out bloodsports and I don't promote it.
Just a final report and couple of pics. I did met my goal of 21 girls in 7 days yesterday, just before flying out. So happy about that. Now I'm at a Starbucks in the States trying not to look like a perv typing on ISG, and already missing Rio ;)
Here are the last 2 girl reports.
BA85:
Grabbed one off the 4th floor. An exotic looking slender tall morena who does her eyeliner out to the side like Cleopatra or something and needs braces, typical BA chick with lots of tattoos and looking ghetto, scars, etc..but has a nice body and excellent attitude. The name was too complicated for me to understand, but you'll know her by the eyeliner and ME initials tattoos on the left shoulder. I couldn't understand her name. She picked me out of a crowd of Brasilados and started talking, I guess I looked like money. So I had to take this one and was glad. It was my best session at BA85. Kissing, doggy, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, and mish. Normally they won’t kiss. I didn’t ask for a photo because I already get it that BA85 garotas consistently want R20 for pics and that isn’t happening, not with me. So we had a good session, I faked a pop at the last minute and called it a session.
So, since I have been nastier than apparently anyone every gets here, I decided to cleanse myself by finishing with a termas session. What can I say, the trip was no holds barred and I wasn’t holding anything back. I came with 1400 US just for sex and without regard for personal safety, either due to sick girls or street guys that I may encounter when I was out walking around at insane times. I basically wanted to get down in the gutter and find girls who are straight up hos. I can do ‘nice’ at home or in Japan. You only live once and mongering isn’t the safest sport anyway that you play it, so…to each there own. This was my way.
So off to 4x4 to cleanse myself before leaving:
Sher was the girl, 1 hour for R280 in the suite. I think I got the suite for the cabine price because the cabines were full just before 5, if I am not mistaken. Pics are posted in the pics thread of her on display and then of her brushing my cum from her mouth after sex.
It was a great session. Loira, 25 years stated, fucked in about 5 positions, I pulled her from the boite at about 4:45 during the mad rush for the free entrance if you session before 5. She agreed to CIM but said she would not swallow..funny, I never mean it that I expect them to swallow but I state it that way. Posso gozar na sua boca e voce pode bebe meu leite..in my hacked Porto slang. Spare me the criticism, I don’t profess to know Porto, just describing how I go about it. It works.
So it was DFK, BBBJ, and then CIM. A whole bunch of positions and she acted like a porn girl, and was yelling safadccinho (maybe she wanted a frappuccino?..sorry, I am at Starbucks now..had to) or something like that, which I’d never heard before. She went BBBJ until I came in her mouth and then she went over to brush her teeth at the sink. She was setting her toothbrush and I was still hard, so I grabbed her and bent her over the ugly jacuzzi tub that is there in the suite, then walked her over to the bed and put her into doggystyle at the end of the bed and was fucking her as hard as I possibly could, trying for a dramatic finish to my last session. I got my fill and then pulled out really quick and it made a popping sound which was cool. The funny thing was that her toothbrush was still in her hand the whole time and still had fresh toothpaste on it.
It was about 5:45, so I cut out and did some last mnute shopping for shirts at Saara market before heading back to Ibis to pick up my stuff. And so it ended. Suadades. I was looking back out the window of the plane last night until I couldn’t see the orange glow anymore.
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[QUOTE=Zingadoon]So, you're French.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. More precisely from Paris. A city that any single girl on the planet dreams to visit.
Say the word "Paris" and watch a girl eyes light up as her legs spread apart ever so slightly in an uncontrolled response.
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Thanks Fred
[QUOTE=Fred100]I'm sure your a very enlightened Human Being. Thank you for your reports. They have given a lot of useful information. There might be a few more mongers out there who will think twice before paddling in your pond latex free.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your effort to balance out the field reports that PP has been posting with some sound cautionary warnings about his sexual behavior. While others cite forum rules and want these type of comments relegated to the "Safe Sex" discussion thread, I think PP's "extreme nasty" behavior (his words) warranted an open discussion. We are all adults here and can choose what actions we wish to pursue. Be they barebacking and ass munching in flithy joints, or choosing to read some sound health advice in a posting. I was personally surprised at some of the rationalizations made here by others ("evangelists and right wingers overstate the potential rsiks of AIDs", "being tired, drinking alcohol and having a cold have much to do with contracting HIV".) IMO, I think these guys posted irresponsibly.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Exactly. More precisely from Paris. A city that any single girl on the planet dreams to visit.
Say the word "Paris" and watch a girl eyes light up as her legs spread apart ever so slightly in an uncontrolled response.[/QUOTE]Quelle noblesse. L'humilité. Paris? As if Paris has anything to do with it. More precisely, it was YOU that made eyes light up and legs spread apart ever so slightly. God's very own gift to all the upper class, well-educated, beautiful women to get drunk with and give free sex to.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Exactly. More precisely from Paris. A city that any single girl on the planet dreams to visit.
Say the word "Paris" and watch a girl eyes light up as her legs spread apart ever so slightly in an uncontrolled response.[/QUOTE]Certainly many women would love to travel to Paris as they feel it is a romantic city. And it certainly is a great city, with great sights, food and culture. One of my favorites cities.
But not every single girl wants to go there. I know many that feel French men are real assholes. They describe them the same way I hear Brazilian women describe Brazilian men. More cultured, but still tools.
I also think that the popular American view of "French people are arrogant assholes" is wrong. It is carried on by the same ignorant patriotic Americans that don't question their countriy's actions. No different really than dealing with people in NYC. When I want an overload of niceness I go to Chicago.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Exactly. More precisely from Paris. A city that any single girl on the planet dreams to visit.
Say the word "Paris" and watch a girl eyes light up as her legs spread apart ever so slightly in an uncontrolled response.[/QUOTE]
French? That explains It!
Every single chick I ever talked about france with came back with an STD like herpes and tremendous disdain for the country. Only positive came from couples!
Try Italy!
Yes, I have been there. Try a Few things:
1. Platform Shoes
2. Deodorant after bathing not to mask smell
3. Shave Pubs
4. Tanning Bed
5. Just because you spent hours cooking it and your a french chef dont make it taste good. Had better meals at Pubs in London getting hammered and more fun despite the multitude of racial insults (Actually made quite a few good mates as they would say)
6. Paris is a garbage eurotrash city!
7. Bring brown bags. The Touts are dog ugly (No wonder they import so many africans and vietnamese)
Go once to see the tower; try snails (just to say you did); visit the Arch of Triumph and Leave.
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Viva la France
Explains it INDEED!!
French Jokes
:) ;) :D
Did you know the toothbrush was invented by the French?
If it had been invented by anyone else it would have been called the Teethbrush.
Q: when was the last good french barbecue?
A: 1431, and it involved Joan of Arc
Q: Why don't the French Barbeque?
A: The snails keep slipping between the grills.
Q: How do you get a French waiter's attention?
A: Start ordering in German.
Q: What's the difference between France and Quebec?
A: Quebec has prettier women and colder beer.
Q: Why do the French like smelly cheeses?
A: Well, in a room full of French people, you can't really smell the cheese.
"A Frenchmen's home is where another man's wife is." - Mark Twain -1878-79 Journal
"There is nothing lower than the human race...except for the French." - Mark Twain 1878-79
"French history: They turn on their friends and surrender to their enemies!"
The makers of French's Mustard made the following recent statement: "We at the French's Company wish to put an end to statements that our product is manufactured in France. There is no relationship, nor has there ever been a relationship, between our mustard and the country of France. Indeed, our mustard is manufactured in Rochester, NY. The only thing we have in common is that we are both yellow".
Why wouldn't the Statue of Liberty work in France? Because she has only one arm raised.
Q. How do you stop a French tank?
A. Say "boo"
How do you separate the men from the boys in France? With a crowbar.
Hey ! Do you know what's the difference between a Frenchman and a chimpansee ? - One of them is hairy, stinky, and scratches his ass all the time. The other is a chimpansee.
Why do the french get more votes in the U.N. They vote with both hands
Q. What is the difference between a frenchwoman and a basketball team?
A. The basketball team showers after 4 periods.
The Surgeon General got a new law passed: all cigarette boxes must have a picture of a French guy on it.
Q. How many jokes are there about the French?
A. One, the rest are true
What is the french peoples favorite movie? the running man
During WW2, the French resistance fighters, in their finest hour, bravely threw sticks of dynamite at the advancing German troops. The Germans then lit them and threw them back.
Q.What is the first thing the French teach their kids in school?
A.How to say "We Surrender" in German!
Q. Why don't cheesburgers sell well in France
A. Because they don't smell like crap.
When is it white laundry day in France? Never, any white laundry in france is already hung up on a stick being waved
Q. How many frenchmen does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A. One, because he holds the bulb and all of Europe revolves around him
Q. How do you confuse a French Soldier?
A. Give him a rifle and ask him to shoot it.
Q. Why don't Master Card and Visa work well in France
A.They do not know how to say "CHARGE!"
Q. What do women who are snipers in the French military use as camouflage?
A. Their armpits
What do you call a french man killed defending his country? ... I don't know either, its never happened!
Did you hear that the Post Office had to recall its series of stamps depicting famous Frenchmen? People were confused about which side to spit on.
"I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
Q. Why do french people always wear yellow?
A. To match the color of their blood!
Why do the French never perform "the wave" at a soccer game? Because, that's a gesture reserved for use only in time of war.
Q. What does a French military alliance and a French romance have in common?
A. Both are brief, sordid, and completely meaningless.
Q. What's the difference between a Frenchman and a catfish?
A. One is an ugly, scum sucking bottom-feeder and the other is a fish.
Q. What's the difference between a Frenchman and a trampoline?
A. You take off your shoes before you jump on the trampoline.
The French have only one actual fighting war hero, Joan of Arc, and they turned her over to the enemy!
Question: What English word has no equivalent in the French language?
Answer: Gratitude
Why does the French Navy suck? Because cardboard doesn't float!
Q. Since everyone knows that French men are gay, how come there are French children?
A. Because of the confusion caused by the fact that French women have mustaches!!
Q. Do you know why so many Europeans Immigrated to North America? A. To get as far away from the French as possible.
What do you call a Frenchman advancing on Baghdad? A salesman
What's the shortest book ever written? French War Heroes.
As read this on the back of a public restroom door. "Here I sit with my buns a'clenchin, giving birth to another Frenchman.
Q. What is the first thing the French Army teaches at basic training?
A. How to surrender in at least 10 languages.
Q. What is the most useful thing in the French Army?
A. A rearview mirror, so they can see the war.
Why does Nike like the French Army?
Because, in war time, they are the biggest buyers of running shoes.
Why did the French celebrate their World Cup Championship in 2000 so wildly? It was their first time they won anything without the help of the U.S.
and so on... :) :D
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Dude,
I was serious. france is one of the worst cities in europe IMHO. I had more fun and found more cultural enlightenment in islamic countries (the muslims living there think pretty much the same. If it was not for their ability to basically biatch up the French Goverment many would leave.) France is the armpit of europe. Calling out the French for the Biatches they are was one of the few things GW did I agreed with.
Thank God for Vibrant Cities like Rio..
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[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Dude, I was serious. france is one of the worst and cold personable cities un europe. I had more fun and found more cultural enlightenment in islamic counties. France us the armpit of europe.[/QUOTE]
You guys really crack me up. You should hook up all together for a Budweiser party at one of any of yours redneck trailer parks. You'll have a real good laugh and mesh well as you are presumably all truckers and have in common an immoderate liking for brasilian cheap and skanky prostitutes.Just a suggestion: as you surely don't know each other already, you may want to compare your trashy tattoos or your bellies to melt the ice. :)
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Quelle noblesse. L'humilité. Paris? As if Paris has anything to do with it. More precisely, it was YOU that made eyes light up and legs spread apart ever so slightly. God's very own gift to all the upper class, well-educated, beautiful women to get drunk with and give free sex to.[/QUOTE]
Ok, I deliberately posted a pic of a malaysian GF who is a rather well-known model in KL, just for you who allegedly have spent 10 years mongering in Malaysia (if it's true, surely for fucking semi enslaved prostitutes in nasty Health Centers with others thousands fifty mongers).
But no need to be that embittered. :)
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[QUOTE=Prosal]You guys really crack me up. You should hook up all together for a Budweiser party at one of any of yours redneck trailer parks. [/QUOTE]
I am black. The appropriate response was "Project/Ghetto/Hood."
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At first I thought he was joking
[QUOTE=Hughdad]I appreciate your effort to balance out the field reports that PP has been posting with some sound cautionary warnings about his sexual behavior. While others cite forum rules and want these type of comments relegated to the "Safe Sex" discussion thread, I think PP's "extreme nasty" behavior (his words) warranted an open discussion. We are all adults here and can choose what actions we wish to pursue. Be they barebacking and ass munching in flithy joints, or choosing to read some sound health advice in a posting. I was personally surprised at some of the rationalizations made here by others ("evangelists and right wingers overstate the potential rsiks of AIDs", "being tired, drinking alcohol and having a cold have much to do with contracting HIV".) IMO, I think these guys posted irresponsibly.[/QUOTE]To be honest I only posted with regard to my own unfortunate experience. I was hoping more mongers would seek the latest information on STD transfer. Standing in the bar at L'oumo a few months ago, an American guy proceeded to tell me how he doesn't like to use condoms, he protects himself by using blue soap. At first I thought he was joking, further conversation told me he believed this. Of course good hygiene helps, but using harsh cleaning methods can damage the epidermis that protects us.
Health worker told me a funny story. He was visiting a very elderly couple, there was a news paper headline stating "AIDS EPIDEMIC". Not really understanding, the old lady said "Oh well!! I guess we will have to boil every thing like we did in the war". Bet that thought would make a few mongers wince.
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[QUOTE=Java Man]Explains it INDEED!!
French Jokes
:) ;) :D
[url]http://www.google.com/search?q=jokes+about+frence&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_enUS347US347[/url][/QUOTE]Funny list! I especially like the one about "ordering in German". But you forgot to mention French hospitality: they plant trees alongside all of their roads so that the German Army can march in the shade, do they not?
But seriously, I wonder why the French have this reputation as cowards with the anglos? OK, so they had one REALLY bad surender in 1940 and their army seems to lose every war they fight. But cowards? If anything, they're historically too bloody-minded.
I mean the country that gave us Napoleon Bonaparte and mass offensives into machineguns in WWI may be alot of things ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]-poor about choosing friends and enemies for one, incompetent for another), but cowards they ain't.
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[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]I am black. The appropriate response was "Project/Ghetto/Hood."[/QUOTE]and drinking 40's. what does he know, he is French
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French Jokes
There are a few reasons why tourists are not always well received in France :
1° France has a huge influx of tourists, and most of them go to the same places. Unfortunately, they become the commercial prey of specialized touristic businesses. These businesses do not care about repeat business, and make no effort to provide good service.
2° The French are very proud of their language and culture. If one addresses them directly in English, without even having the good education of saying "s'il vous plait", then it is perceived as an offence.
3° Americans have the cultural trait to speak and have fun in a loud manner. For this reason they are often perceived as loudmouths.
4° In Rio de Janeiro, a middle-class gringo is perceived by most people as being of a higher social class. In Paris, the same middle-class gringo has zero social status.
So good advice is to avoid overly touristic spots, speak softer, dress decently, and learn a couple of French words. You will see that the stereotypes are wrong.
If you want to experience bad service and client contempt, try some fashionable restaurants in New-York or in Los Angeles !
Regards. B.B.
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[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]If you want to experience bad service and client contempt, try some fashionable restaurants in New-York or in Los Angeles !
Regards. B.B.[/QUOTE]Or pretty much ANY vendor, food or otherwise, in the Atlanta Airport. Or any drive-thru window in Atlanta."Yo, my service might be slow...but at least it's surly."
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[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]There are a few reasons why tourists are not always well received in France :
1° France has a huge influx of tourists, and most of them go to the same places. Unfortunately, they become the commercial prey of specialized touristic businesses. These businesses do not care about repeat business, and make no effort to provide good service.
2° The French are very proud of their language and culture. If one addresses them directly in English, without even having the good education of saying "s'il vous plait", then it is perceived as an offence.
3° Americans have the cultural trait to speak and have fun in a loud manner. For this reason they are often perceived as loudmouths.
4° In Rio de Janeiro, a middle-class gringo is perceived by most people as being of a higher social class. In Paris, the same middle-class gringo has zero social status.
So good advice is to avoid overly touristic spots, speak softer, dress decently, and learn a couple of French words. You will see that the stereotypes are wrong.
If you want to experience bad service and client contempt, try some fashionable restaurants in New-York or in Los Angeles !
Regards. B.B.[/QUOTE]A post with some real intelligence behind it. Very informative. Thanks
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[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]There are a few reasons why tourists are not always well received in France :
1° France has a huge influx of tourists, and most of them go to the same places. Unfortunately, they become the commercial prey of specialized touristic businesses. These businesses do not care about repeat business, and make no effort to provide good service.
2° The French are very proud of their language and culture. If one addresses them directly in English, without even having the good education of saying "s'il vous plait", then it is perceived as an offence.
3° Americans have the cultural trait to speak and have fun in a loud manner. For this reason they are often perceived as loudmouths.
4° In Rio de Janeiro, a middle-class gringo is perceived by most people as being of a higher social class. In Paris, the same middle-class gringo has zero social status.
So good advice is to avoid overly touristic spots, speak softer, dress decently, and learn a couple of French words. You will see that the stereotypes are wrong.
If you want to experience bad service and client contempt, try some fashionable restaurants in New-York or in Los Angeles !
Regards. B.B.[/QUOTE]No, I was primarily in a suit working for Citi, went to the Creme de le creme and still hated the damn place. Not to mention, my Francais is my second best language which is not saying nothing. I will digress, the Cognac visit and sampling left me in awe of the art. Wow, they put the waste in a bottle with a fancy label and we dumb Americans buy it. If the label is below XO its French waste/Garbage.
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I would like to thank the French.
About ten years ago, before the Euro, I paid less than a dollar to get into a Mcdonalds bathroom in Nice, France to bang some gal from Spain that I met in a tour. Its the cheapest I have ever paid for a cabina : ) I have to give them their props. It was immaculate, spotless clean.
For the record, that was the first and last time I had sex in a public bathroom. BTW, the fries taste the same as back home. True story.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Exactly. More precisely from Paris. A city that any single girl on the planet dreams to visit.
Say the word "Paris" and watch a girl eyes light up as her legs spread apart ever so slightly in an uncontrolled response.[/QUOTE]I usually say the word "dinheiro" and get the same effect...
...from a former ESC Toulouse student.
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Dinheiro in French
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I usually say the word "dinheiro" and get the same effect... ...from a former ESC Toulouse student.[/QUOTE]
Is this what you meant ?
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[QUOTE=Hughdad] I think PP's "extreme nasty" behavior (his words) warranted an open discussion. We are all adults here and can choose what actions we wish to pursue. Be they barebacking and ass munching in flithy joints, or choosing to read some sound health advice in a posting.[/QUOTE]
Hugh,
I get the real sense that people here in the Rio thread think that the 'filthy joints' are somehow less safe than the termas or apartments. It was understated in many of the responses to my posts. I disagree with that sentiment. A lot of guys go over to VM and so forth to get their monger stripes but never session, so come away with this horrible picture based on the environment there. It's just not true.
In reality, VM and BA85 girls typically play much, much safer than any of the termas or apartment girls. There was typically no exchange of fluids in those sessions, the girls play it very safe. Most don't even want to kiss or be eaten out.
*However*, the termas girls and apartment girls go all out with BBBJ, DFK, DATY, usually CIM and so forth every time I am there. They don't care about STD transmission modes other than penetration. Carefree and easy. Especially the apartment girls. So guys can be in there giving them clap, syph, herpes, hep with their nasty tongues and bare dicks..but no one thinks twice about it because the rooms are nice and clean. Its been suggested a year or so ago that some of these termas girls disappear for a week or so infrequently because they are having herpes outbreaks and I wouldn't doubt that it's true. They are sessioning some of the most experienced sexplorers in the world there in Copa termas, who spend a lot of their time banging WG's by the hundreds elsewhere in SA, FSU or SEA. After a few years of catering to that kind of clientele, I am not sure how they could possibly be clean.
On the other hand, in VM, Bar 22 and so forth..most of the girls stand around most of the night and aren't sessioning constantly. Poor Brasilados come in to get some eye candy, a beer and a few gropes, and then go home and jerk off or something. But if I go into a termas like 4x4 I see girls going back and forth with a different guy every hour. And the apartments are practically a gangbang everyday, every one I go into has a wait during lunch and after work (practically all business hours) and you are jumping onto a girl right after a different guy jumped off. The girls in RB156 and RB185 must walk bow-legged and have o-shaped mouths at the end of the day due to all the dick that they are BBBJing and fucking.
So in summary, for clean girls I'd say VM is the best, then termas, then apartments, and bar girls could be anywhere in this list. On another note, I have indeed caught STD's twice and caught them both when having 'safe' sex WITH CONDOMS. ;) Yes, you heard that correctly and no I was not eating ass or doing DATY. They occured in Japan whilst having sessions in nice clean rooms, with nice clean tatami mats, with nice bright and fresh looking young J-girls..who served me snacks and tea, sucked and fucked me, and left me with souvenirs whose fallout that made irreversible impacts on my personal 'real' everyday life. So there is no safe sex with WGs and the surroundings have nothing to do with the cleanliness of the girls. People are so focused on the idea of condoms and penetration that they forget that you can catch most things just as easily through saliva, skin contact, or even having a hangnail that gets in contact with infected fluid.
All that said, I think the apartments are most dangerous and that you could catch anything from herpes to syph there easily, because the girls are highly highly used and don't have any problem with exchanges of bodily fluids. At least that's my experience. I go to the apartments specifically because they do sloppy kissing, and let me dive on them, and then take CIM. At VM and those places, I almost never pop. Its just good sport and warmup for apartments or termas where the surroundings are clean but the deeds are dirty and raw/natural as possible.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Just a final report and couple of pics. I did met my goal of 21 girls in 7 days yesterday, just before flying out. So happy about that. Now I'm at a Starbucks in the States trying not to look like a perv typing on ISG, and already missing Rio ;)[/QUOTE]
Great reports. A shame that they almost got buried in 2 dozen posts about France and their habits.
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Information about prostitution in Rio is here. Look below.
[QUOTE=Sperto]Great reports. A shame that they almost got buried in 2 dozen posts about France and their habits.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, but are you trying to insinuate that people might still come to ISG>Brasil>Rio to find information about where sex can be found in Rio, what it costs, and what it's like? This is a thead about Ingrid of L'uomo and whats she's up to, the closing of Help, the Olympic bid, the superiority of FSU over Rio, the importance of becoming fluent in Portuguese for the purpose of finding a Brasilian girlfriend, life in a favela, and for teaching basic sex ed to stubborn kamikazes. ;)
I spent a lot of time documenting my findings so that Centro/Norte noobs could find their way in and out of trouble, so everyone please excuse my doubletap if it bumps the France talk. Vive la France, in the France thread. As a side note, this thread has so many junk posts that I was trying to find the bus info to get to B&W in Bonsuccesso and maybe some reports, but nada, just posts about how dangerous it might be and how Luana used to work there and how unreasonable it was for a certain person to want to visit there just to see a particular girl...so I never did get there due to lack of time, relevant info and my new mistrust of Google maps. Maybe Sprite13 or some other brass balled monger about to hit the ground will have time to check it for us and give us the lowdown, please. The B&W girl Shayla that I nailed at Florida was a pleaser, as reported in Part III below, so I am expecting more of the same for anyone who makes it there. I have her cell number if anyone wants it.
I am not trusting Google maps public transit directions after this trip, it's a good resource and I posted it here as a suggestion to use with Bitchmaps, but trust yet verify. It mislead me on one bus. Better to search ISG on these things and hope that someone has provided the correct bus number to get you where you want to go, as a verification before hopping on the bus that Google provided to you. You could end up in Barra or Leblon, God forbid.
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Just a final report and couple of pics. I did met my goal of 21 girls in 7 days yesterday, just before flying out. So happy about that. Now I'm at a Starbucks in the States trying not to look like a perv typing on ISG, and already missing Rio ;)
Here are the last 2 girl reports.
BA85:
Grabbed one off the 4th floor. An exotic looking slender tall morena who does her eyeliner out to the side like Cleopatra or something and needs braces, typical BA chick with lots of tattoos and looking ghetto, scars, etc..but has a nice body and excellent attitude. The name was too complicated for me to understand, but you'll know her by the eyeliner and ME initials tattoos on the left shoulder. I couldn't understand her name. She picked me out of a crowd of Brasilados and started talking, I guess I looked like money. So I had to take this one and was glad. It was my best session at BA85. Kissing, doggy, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, and mish. Normally they won’t kiss. I didn’t ask for a photo because I already get it that BA85 garotas consistently want R20 for pics and that isn’t happening, not with me. So we had a good session, I faked a pop at the last minute and called it a session.
So, since I have been nastier than apparently anyone every gets here, I decided to cleanse myself by finishing with a termas session. What can I say, the trip was no holds barred and I wasn’t holding anything back. I came with 1400 US just for sex and without regard for personal safety, either due to sick girls or street guys that I may encounter when I was out walking around at insane times. I basically wanted to get down in the gutter and find girls who are straight up hos. I can do ‘nice’ at home or in Japan. You only live once and mongering isn’t the safest sport anyway that you play it, so…to each there own. This was my way.
So off to 4x4 to cleanse myself before leaving:
Sher was the girl, 1 hour for R280 in the suite. I think I got the suite for the cabine price because the cabines were full just before 5, if I am not mistaken. Pics are posted in the pics thread of her on display and then of her brushing my cum from her mouth after sex.
It was a great session. Loira, 25 years stated, fucked in about 5 positions, I pulled her from the boite at about 4:45 during the mad rush for the free entrance if you session before 5. She agreed to CIM but said she would not swallow..funny, I never mean it that I expect them to swallow but I state it that way. Posso gozar na sua boca e voce pode bebe meu leite..in my hacked Porto slang. Spare me the criticism, I don’t profess to know Porto, just describing how I go about it. It works.
So it was DFK, BBBJ, and then CIM. A whole bunch of positions and she acted like a porn girl, and was yelling safadccinho (maybe she wanted a frappuccino?..sorry, I am at Starbucks now..had to) or something like that, which I’d never heard before. She went BBBJ until I came in her mouth and then she went over to brush her teeth at the sink. She was setting her toothbrush and I was still hard, so I grabbed her and bent her over the ugly jacuzzi tub that is there in the suite, then walked her over to the bed and put her into doggystyle at the end of the bed and was fucking her as hard as I possibly could, trying for a dramatic finish to my last session. I got my fill and then pulled out really quick and it made a popping sound which was cool. The funny thing was that her toothbrush was still in her hand the whole time and still had fresh toothpaste on it.
It was about 5:45, so I cut out and did some last mnute shopping for shirts at Saara market before heading back to Ibis to pick up my stuff. And so it ended. Suadades. I was looking back out the window of the plane last night until I couldn’t see the orange glow anymore.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Hugh,
I get the real sense that people here in the Rio thread think that the 'filthy joints' are somehow less safe than the termas or apartments. It was understated in many of the responses to my posts. I disagree with that sentiment. A lot of guys go over to VM and so forth to get their monger stripes but never session, so come away with this horrible picture based on the environment there. It's just not true. ... .[/QUOTE]
Very interesting analysis, Puta Playa. Thanks for the input.
Regards. B.B.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]and drinking 40's. what does he know, he is French[/QUOTE]Well, from in the civilized world, we make no real distinctions.
Ignorance, wherever it comes from, from Jim Bob from the trailer park of Alabama or from Tyrone from some urban ghetto, is still ignorance.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Hugh,
I get the real sense that people here in the Rio thread think that the 'filthy joints' are somehow less safe than the termas or apartments. It was understated in many of the responses to my posts. I disagree with that sentiment. A lot of guys go over to VM and so forth to get their monger stripes but never session, so come away with this horrible picture based on the environment there. It's just not true.[/QUOTE]
This I agree with. VM and the Centro are a mess, but that doesn't necessarily mean the places there are dirtier. However, I do think that the Centro women have a higher incidence of STDs, if only because client turnover there is a lot higher. Furthermore, there are some really grim places in the Centro. Remember BA113? And down around the Central do Brasil you have a street scene that rivals anything in 1970s NYC for sleaze.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]In reality, VM and BA85 girls typically play much, much safer than any of the termas or apartment girls. There was typically no exchange of fluids in those sessions, the girls play it very safe. Most don't even want to kiss or be eaten out.[/QUOTE]This is probably true. On the flip side, I doubt the MEN who frequent those places play safer, so while the women in those joints have better habits, the men who frequent them probably have worse.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]*However*, the termas girls and apartment girls go all out with BBBJ, DFK, DATY, usually CIM and so forth every time I am there. They don't care about STD transmission modes other than penetration. Carefree and easy. Especially the apartment girls. So guys can be in there giving them clap, syph, herpes, hep with their nasty tongues and bare dicks..but no one thinks twice about it because the rooms are nice and clean.[/QUOTE]Again, probably true enough. However, to give termas their due, the women do at least get very regular check-ups, whereas at a place like BA85, it's catch as catch can. So if a woman has something that's asymptomatic, she's going to probably be transmitting it for a long time at BA85.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Great reports. A shame that they almost got buried in 2 dozen posts about France and their habits.[/QUOTE]
My Bad..I hate France and Frenchmen..And I generally love everyone..
I was getting a kick out people trashing Puta Playa for his BBFS and stating what this and that girl does or does not do. I guess the Pics are lying. We all take risk and know the dangers and odds so no one needs to be reminded by the chattering classes. Some of the main ones clamoring are the same ones that will go back and chastise her if able. They are the type that will show reports and pics posted. Funny is that they say they will avoid but why would you avoid unless your doing the same thing. Puta Playa did it a couple times. Her Brazillian BF is doing it daily plus banging the ass raw! Hmmmmmmm.
Puta Playa,
Great post and great information given for noobs and out of scene veterans. Your analysis below is dead on. I know how you feel with google maps, insearchofchicas and biatchmaps. I Pin over locations to MyMaps add you guys notes to the Pins and use for approximations then exact GPS with my phone. It Makes a hell of a tour guide. I just Get in the taxi and Point Here! Works Great in DR and I am able to share it with my boyz so they dont get lost or taken advantage of. Had a taxi take me around the town to get me 1mile . When we got there he said 500 pesos, i paid him 100 and showed him the route he was suppose to have taken. Only reason I was in the cab was it was Dark and I did not want to be hassled by the SW's and shoe shine boys (they are everywhere, could have sworn I saw the same kid in Rio, DR and Cuba )
VM is off the chain. But I love 40's, Tattoos and thuglife....Sperto you still my hero and my boy Doc is still cakin in VM. I think he is living out a porn or something. You know Pimp my Mulatto Teen...
Brilliant Puta Playa
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[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]Is this what you meant ?[/QUOTE]
Man, that pic is backwards
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You are absolutely correct.
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Man, that pic is backwards[/QUOTE]
Never pay first.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]You guys really crack me up. You should hook up all together for a Budweiser party at one of any of yours redneck trailer parks. You'll have a real good laugh and mesh well as you are presumably all truckers and have in common an immoderate liking for brasilian cheap and skanky prostitutes.Just a suggestion: as you surely don't know each other already, you may want to compare your trashy tattoos or your bellies to melt the ice.
Ok, I deliberately posted a pic of a malaysian GF who is a rather well-known model in KL, just for you who allegedly have spent 10 years mongering in Malaysia (if it's true, surely for fucking semi enslaved prostitutes in nasty Health Centers with others thousands fifty mongers).
But no need to be that embittered. :)[/QUOTE]This is amazing how this guy gets away with all these prejudice comments.
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[QUOTE=John Cricket]
Again, probably true enough. However, to give termas their due, the women do at least get very regular check-ups, whereas at a place like BA85, it's catch as catch can. So if a woman has something that's asymptomatic, she's going to probably be transmitting it for a long time at BA85.[/QUOTE]
This last comment is an urban legend. Of course we all want to believe it, the girls want us to believe it and the owners want us to believe it. Having spent quite a few weekends with Termas girls I can assure you that health checks are nothing like you think and it is very easy for the girls to dodge them, and they have to pay, so, there is an incentive to miss the tests. Centaurus, the most expensive termas, asks for tests each 90 days, just syphilis and HIV! Check it out! The other termas are similar. Do your "research" however and the results will show they are all tested for everything every month. Everyone wants us all to believe that.
PP has mentioned herpes, which is endemic in Rio. In the termas the girls take time off for an oral herpes outbreak, but as soon as it can be disguised they go back to work. Time off is unpaid leave. They don't stop working for a genital herpes outbreak.
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[QUOTE=Beach Star]This last comment is an urban legend. Of course we all want to believe it, the girls want us to believe it and the owners want us to believe it. Having spent quite a few weekends with Termas girls I can assure you that health checks are nothing like you think and it is very easy for the girls to dodge them, and they have to pay, so, there is an incentive to miss the tests. Centaurus, the most expensive termas, asks for tests each 90 days, just syphilis and HIV! Check it out! The other termas are similar. Do your "research" however and the results will show they are all tested for everything every month. Everyone wants us all to believe that.
PP has mentioned herpes, which is endemic in Rio. In the termas the girls take time off for an oral herpes outbreak, but as soon as it can be disguised they go back to work. Time off is unpaid leave. They don't stop working for a genital herpes outbreak.[/QUOTE]Hey, I'm not claiming that they can't be dodged or that they're very effective. They DO exist, however, however infrequent. I guarantee that they don't at many places downtown.
At all.
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Alternative Help
Hello,
Tell me an alternative to the nightclub Help?
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[QUOTE=Beach Star]This last comment is an urban legend. Of course we all want to believe it, the girls want us to believe it and the owners want us to believe it. Having spent quite a few weekends with Termas girls I can assure you that health checks are nothing like you think and it is very easy for the girls to dodge them, and they have to pay, so, there is an incentive to miss the tests. Centaurus, the most expensive termas, asks for tests each 90 days, just syphilis and HIV! Check it out! The other termas are similar. Do your "research" however and the results will show they are all tested for everything every month. Everyone wants us all to believe that.
PP has mentioned herpes, which is endemic in Rio. In the termas the girls take time off for an oral herpes outbreak, but as soon as it can be disguised they go back to work. Time off is unpaid leave. They don't stop working for a genital herpes outbreak.[/QUOTE]
100% Correct. The best law that was proposed was to require all SexWorkers to Have a License/HealthCard but has yet to come to a final vote since 2005 due to the brush up with GDubya around an anti-prostitution pledge to receive antiviral funding and the good moral standard requirements of UK and USA would limit travel of GDP'S as would invariably excluded due to proof such as a HO-License. However, Brazils attack on the virus makes other countries look like shit. They acknowledge the issue and attack all the sources simultaneously. Kind a funny, how their meds cost 25% of what Americans Pay. All the Termas check for as stated are the known business killers. You don't want your clients running around within 48 hours of service, still in country, yelling "I caught Gohnerea in XYZ Terma" or "I caught HIV&Syphilis from a GDP at XYZ Terma"
As to Herpes, half these girls are on AntiViral meds for reasons not limited to HIV. I find it extremely troubling that some say that they have caught this and that in Brazil especially HIV and Herpes when the recognition and discrimination of Antivirus to reduce the patients load is so high. In fact greater than any other country including US. As I have stated before, there is some extremely HYPOCRITICALISH talk on here by some. PROVEN SCIENCE and statistics indicates that there is some BBFS with more than just women going on.
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First off there is no clear cut result for an HIV test because the test itself is a fraud and has been proven to be bogus. if any of those girls are taking anti viral drugs I feel sorry for them because those drugs blow your immune system out. So if any of these girls are taking anti virals they are causing themsleves more danger to themselves and clients.
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[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]100% Correct. The best law that was proposed was to require all SexWorkers to Have a License/HealthCard but has yet to come to a final vote since 2005 due to the brush up with GDubya around an anti-prostitution pledge to receive antiviral funding and the good moral standard requirements of UK and USA would limit travel of GDP'S as would invariably excluded due to proof such as a HO-License. [/QUOTE]
Since Rio is a sexual playground for much of the Western world, and a destination for straight-up sex tourists, I'd recommend that anyone going there just accepts from the start that they might come home with something. If they aren't willing to accept that risk, they shouldn't swim in the pond. With the exception of HSV and HIV, the benefits outweigh the short term losses. To paraphrase Euro100, memories and reports that you will treasure when you are 90 and sitting in a retirement home, drooling into your oatmeal, and being able to say that you once lived what most other people only sat at home and dreamed about. Priceless, really.
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[QUOTE=Auriflama]First off there is no clear cut result for an HIV test because the test itself is a fraud and has been proven to be bogus. if any of those girls are taking anti viral drugs I feel sorry for them because those drugs blow your immune system out. So if any of these girls are taking anti virals they are causing themsleves more danger to themselves and clients.[/QUOTE]That's right. And little tinfoil caps will protect you from the CIA's orbitting mind control sattelites.
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Antibiotics are no longer the magic bullets
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Since Rio is a sexual playground for much of the Western world, and a destination for straight-up sex tourists, I'd recommend that anyone going there just accepts from the start that they might come home with something. If they aren't willing to accept that risk, they shouldn't swim in the pond. With the exception of HSV and HIV, the benefits outweigh the short term losses. To paraphrase Euro100, memories and reports that you will treasure when you are 90 and sitting in a retirement home, drooling into your oatmeal, and being able to say that you once lived what most other people only sat at home and dreamed about. Priceless, really.[/QUOTE]I would like to emphasize that the dangers are not the same now as they were ten years ago. A young colleague of mine decided to dabble in the commercial sex houses in Rio. He contracted an antibiotic resistant strain of gonorrhea. He is a young guy who has now has permanent damage; at the very least he will be sterile. I was more fortunate with my experience with gonorrhea last year, although it proved difficult to treat. it did eventually go, hopefully with no long term effects. The resistant strains are on the increase (not helped by those who self medicate prior to exposure) and have the potential to have fatal effects on other organs in the body. Antibiotics are no longer the magic bullets they were just a few years ago. HIV is not the only STD that has the potential to shorten or degrade the quality of your life.
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[QUOTE=Jackbutt]Hello,
Tell me an alternative to the nightclub Help?[/QUOTE]Staying at home drinking alone.
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how much risk?
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Since Rio is a sexual playground for much of the Western world, and a destination for straight-up sex tourists, I'd recommend that anyone going there just accepts from the start that they might come home with something. If they aren't willing to accept that risk, they shouldn't swim in the pond. With the exception of HSV and HIV, the benefits outweigh the short term losses. To paraphrase Euro100, memories and reports that you will treasure when you are 90 and sitting in a retirement home, drooling into your oatmeal, and being able to say that you once lived what most other people only sat at home and dreamed about. Priceless, really.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely true. But there are different levels of risk.
So, once you decide you want to be a player, then you have to decide how much risk you take on. My take on risky behavior in decreasing order:
1. Sharing needles.
2. BB anal
3. BBFS
4. Oral, back or front, BBBJ
5. Kissing
6. Covered anal
7. CFS
8. CBJ
9. skin infections, bugs, crabs etc. (never run into this myself)
Yes, there are risks to all of them. Other people might rank them differently.
I'll put in my two cents on the discussion of which girls are more risky. I think it would be silly to believe the risks are different depending on where the girl works. For one thing, they move around. I don't think that the risks are more in the "dirtier" places or less in the termas, or vice versa.
Now, I have commented on my experiences in terms of cleanliness of the girls which has nothing to do with risk of disease -- or very little unless they make it a habit in their lives, which you can't know. Places that don't have air conditioning are going to have sweaty people. Many times, they don't shower between clients. And I have run into some pretty rank smelling stuff.
I don't say this as criticism or recommending people not to go -- I go my self. It is just done in the spirit of honest reporting so that people realistically understand what they are getting themselves into. We all have different opinions of where we like to go, what we like to do, etc., but the facts of these places should be relatively objective.
I'm not sure exactly what your point is above, but one could read it to say that this is risky behavior so just accept that and don't worry about the details. For me, there are ways to limit that risk. Generally, I choose to do that because I think I then have a better chance to live to monger another day.
Yes, you have to accept that something might happen and you might catch something. But to me, that does not mean throw caution to the wind.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Absolutely true. But there are different levels of risk.
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No less a member than the esteemed Poucolouco, who although he has to pay for his baked goods in Rio before he gets them, is someone well aware of forum rules and guidelines. On June 30, he suggested moving this discussion to the Safe Sex Forum [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=268[/url]. Maybe it is time.
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[QUOTE=Auriflama]First off there is no clear cut result for an HIV test because the test itself is a fraud and has been proven to be bogus. if any of those girls are taking anti viral drugs I feel sorry for them because those drugs blow your immune system out. So if any of these girls are taking anti virals they are causing themsleves more danger to themselves and clients.[/QUOTE]
Please find another refrain. 100-3 Scientist keeps making you a liar. Antivirals are commonly used to suppress Herpes and several other ailments as millions take them daily with few deleterious side affects. In most cases, especially HIV, It allows the body to reconstitute/Repair the immune system. Which is the complete opposite of your statement. The use reduces their viral loads, reducing symptoms and ability to transmit, Therefore, reducing the danger to the client.
Please STFU Zealot!
You wanna compare notes and get this Data Beatdown? See me here...:[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...splay.php?f=268[/url].
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]No less a member than the esteemed Poucolouco, who although he has to pay for his baked goods in Rio before he gets them, is someone well aware of forum rules and guidelines. On June 30, he suggested moving this discussion to the Safe Sex Forum [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=268[/url]. Maybe it is time.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. I'm done anyway.
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[QUOTE=Beach Star]
PP has mentioned herpes, which is endemic in Rio. In the termas the girls take time off for an oral herpes outbreak, but as soon as it can be disguised they go back to work. Time off is unpaid leave. They don't stop working for a genital herpes outbreak.[/QUOTE]
I probably shouldnt say this on the open board, but fuck it! Better to be forewarned! I have heard from a number of reliable sources that Sayuri (Very popular japanese girl at Monte Carlo) has oral herpes. She has told this to a couple of mongers herself! The worst part about it is, she will not work in the terma when she has an outbreak, but she has no problem slapping on some thick lipstick and working Balcony when she has sores!!!
Thats why is it so important to study a girl's wouth for bumps and pimples, because in dim light, it can be very difficult to see! And if they have on lipstick, it can damn near impossible to detect!!
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Sayuri
[QUOTE=Bravo]I probably shouldnt say this on the open board, but fuck it! Better to be forewarned! I have heard from a number of reliable sources that Sayuri (Very popular japanese girl at Monte Carlo) has oral herpes. She has told this to a couple of mongers herself! The worst part about it is, she will not work in the terma when she has an outbreak, but she has no problem slapping on some thick lipstick and working Balcony when she has sores!!!
Thats why is it so important to study a girl's wouth for bumps and pimples, because in dim light, it can be very difficult to see! And if they have on lipstick, it can damn near impossible to detect!![/QUOTE]I've chatted with Sayuri on many occasions over the last few years. Always found her very pleasant. I have never taken her up on her offer of sex. I know at least 5 guys that have a real thing for her. She is a lovely girl, but always has had the reputation for just going for it. Everton at MC is always "quasi" on her case for pushing the limits in the bar. She's a big money earner, so the pimps cut her some slack. Probably not so good to mention the girls names here as they all potentially carry the same risk. Plus the pimps and some of the girls read these posts.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]I probably shouldnt say this on the open board, but fuck it! Better to be forewarned! I have heard from a number of reliable sources that Sayuri (Very popular japanese girl at Monte Carlo) has oral herpes. She has told this to a couple of mongers herself! The worst part about it is, she will not work in the terma when she has an outbreak, but she has no problem slapping on some thick lipstick and working Balcony when she has sores!!!
Thats why is it so important to study a girl's wouth for bumps and pimples, because in dim light, it can be very difficult to see! And if they have on lipstick, it can damn near impossible to detect!![/QUOTE]If you are reading this, although you may have never had a symptom, you probably have herpes. See [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_herpes_simplex[/url]
A quote:
"Worldwide rates of HSV infection are between 65% and 90%.[1] Although many people infected with HSV develop labial or genital lesions, the majority are either undiagnosed or display no physical symptoms"
Something tells me both the readers of this forum and the women we like to meet are in the upper end of these statistics. According to [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19374216/[/url] the average (median) American man has sex with 7 women in his life. The average reader of ISG has probably had sex with 7 women in 2 days.
Some of the numbers quoted in the article of seropositive by nation:
USA (1999-2004) HSV-1 ("oral") 58%, HSV-2 ("genital") - male 11%, female 23%
Brazil (1990-1998) HSV-2 female 23-42%
So, if you barebacked 5 different American women from 1999 to 2004 you had a 73% chance of coming into contact with one that was positive for genital herpes. If you kissed them first the odds would have been about 99% for oral herpes. The odds were even higher from 1988-1994 (26% and 68%).
How many men and women do you think the average termas girl has made out with? 500? 1000? 2000?
I've probably swapped spit with 300 women but have never shown a symptom of herpes. Does that guarantee that I am negative? I doubt it. Still, just to be safe, I would not go near a woman that was showing symptoms.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]No less a member than the esteemed Poucolouco, who although he has to pay for his baked goods in Rio before he gets them, is someone well aware of forum rules and guidelines. On June 30, he suggested moving this discussion to the Safe Sex Forum [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=268[/url]. Maybe it is time.[/QUOTE]
How about I take one for the team and get the focus on something else, maybe Solarium. Here goes:
I'll add a little sidenote to my trip, perhaps humorous. When went into Bar 22 to BBFS Gabrielle a second time; there were a couple of young Brasilian guys hanging around smoking by the stairs. They didn't look like guys who had money, I just see them in there drinking. They asked me if I like it there and I said sure, it's nice. Both of the guys told me, no it's not, we never have sex here...we go to Solarium, it's like R150, not much more.. ;)
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[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Please find another refrain. 100-3 Scientist keeps making you a liar. Antivirals are commonly used to suppress Herpes and several other ailments as millions take them daily with few deleterious side affects. In most cases, especially HIV, It allows the body to reconstitute/Repair the immune system. Which is the complete opposite of your statement. The use reduces their viral loads, reducing symptoms and ability to transmit, Therefore, reducing the danger to the client.
Please STFU Zealot!
You wanna compare notes and get this Data Beatdown? See me here...:[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...splay.php?f=268[/url].[/QUOTE]Antivirals are garbage mr modern medicine supporter and so is this misinformation you are giving this board. here is a link about aids please read it even though I know you will dismiss it no matter it says because your stuck in your ways.
[url]http://www.garynull.com/home/aids-is-not-a-death-sentence.html[/url]
Just look at the success of modern meds with aids and stds and its ZERO while holisitic protocols have reversed stds using ozone and vitamin c intravenously. its all about money and ceo's getting mega-rich and they dont give a damn who dies and who lives. Keeping people sick is good business in the usa.
Also no link from wikisleezia
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[QUOTE=Bravo]I probably shouldnt say this on the open board, but fuck it! Better to be forewarned! I have heard from a number of reliable sources that Sayuri (Very popular japanese girl at Monte Carlo) has oral herpes. She has told this to a couple of mongers herself! The worst part about it is, she will not work in the terma when she has an outbreak, but she has no problem slapping on some thick lipstick and working Balcony when she has sores!!!
Thats why is it so important to study a girl's wouth for bumps and pimples, because in dim light, it can be very difficult to see! And if they have on lipstick, it can damn near impossible to detect!![/QUOTE]
L Uomo girls get seen every 2 weeks by Dr Silvera at Largo do Machado...Very very few of them do not have genital herpes, which erupts several times a year....this is routinely dealt with with a recommendation that they take a few days off. They get given a piece of paper and they choose whether to show it to the manageress. Blood test results, if positive, get communicated to management, Nothing stops the girls to do a "programa por fora" with all of us who have their cell phones...
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]How about I take one for the team and get the focus on something else, maybe Solarium. Here goes:
I'll add a little sidenote to my trip, perhaps humorous. When went into Bar 22 to BBFS Gabrielle a second time; there were a couple of young Brasilian guys hanging around smoking by the stairs. They didn't look like guys who had money, I just see them in there drinking. They asked me if I like it there and I said sure, it's nice. Both of the guys told me, no it's not, we never have sex here...we go to Solarium, it's like R150, not much more.. ;)[/QUOTE]It's an open forum and the conversation can go anywhere although you seem to want to center it on your field reports. Of course they are not interested in the skanky girls there and the fact that they have higher standards in cleanliness is too funny.
Question: you were with 21 girls but only came half the time. What's the point of running around and not finishing?
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[QUOTE=Auriflama]Antivirals are garbage mr modern medicine supporter and so is this misinformation you are giving this board. here is a link about aids please read it even though I know you will dismiss it no matter it says because your stuck in your ways.
[url]http://www.garynull.com/home/aids-is-not-a-death-sentence.html[/url]
Just look at the success of modern meds with aids and stds and its ZERO while holisitic protocols have reversed stds using ozone and vitamin c intravenously. its all about money and ceo's getting mega-rich and they dont give a damn who dies and who lives. Keeping people sick is good business in the usa.
Also no link from wikisleezia[/QUOTE]
ROFLMAO!
You are an Idiot! There is no polite way to say it. You just quoted me for the 4th time a guy thats not a Medical Doctor and a claim that was latter found to be not only unsubstantiated but found to be manipulated. You wanna cure a yeast infection, improve Blood flow or deal with bacterial infections go right ahead; alternatively, your not going to be able to deal with a virus (Period) Seems like you need a lesson in virology and DNA. Lets not even talk about the mortality rates of subjects treated with lone holistic methods. >130k die a year in Africa alone from lack of Antivirals and 100% , Yes 100% early mortality found when only treated with roots, berries and voo-doo.
STFU your embarrassing yourself!
Anyway, Best bet to stay STD free is to limit exchanges of body fluid, skin to skin contact and always use condoms as SlimHoleDrill illustrates. Damn thats a boring sexual experience. Face it, your having sex your taking a chance on catching something. Its up to you to manage those chances.
The truth is that most of these girls are checked. Yes, Even at VM they have access to DRs via the frequent free Clinics. However, what they do with the information and when they leave the clubs is up to them. You talk to some of these ladies more than "suck, bend over and how much" you will start learning some shit about some that will absolutely make you puke. The cleanest and prettiest are not always the safest. Especially the x porn-stars. The Majority have had or has currently have an STD of some sort. Was talking to a Brazilian working DR out of DollHouse. We were hanging for a couple of days and she had me rolling about things the girls do and how nasty some of us are. She worked at 4x4, Solarium, Centurians & occasionally VM. The worst or funniest thing was that, if its the first of the month or mid, there is a chance 50% of the girls are bleeding and still working using as-sundry tricks to mask.(cycle syncing) She admitted to doing the same and many client Dinned literally during the period.
I laughed until I looked at me watch and it was Aug 3rd!
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vitamin c?...ozone?....ozone?? huh?
just a quick search on ozone:
"therapeutic use of ozone is not endorsed by health authorities or medical associations in any english speaking country, and most us states prohibit the marketing of ozone generators, its medical use, and even research and clinical trials of ozone therapy, so that doctors risk losing their medical licenses by administering or prescribing ozone therapies."
gary null sounds like a quack:
[url]http://www.quackwatch.org/04consumereducation/null.html[/url]
does he sell snake oil too?? :)
whatever works for you auri.
btw, the antibiotics my quack gives me, cures my illnesses, (when i get sick.) but i promise to eat more oranges. :)
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My experience
[QUOTE=July Gan]L Uomo girls get seen every 2 weeks by Dr Silvera at Largo do Machado. Very very few of them do not have genital herpes, which erupts several times a year. This is routinely dealt with with a recommendation that they take a few days off. They get given a piece of paper and they choose whether to show it to the manageress. Blood test results, if positive, get communicated to management, Nothing stops the girls to do a "programa por fora" with all of us who have their cell phones.[/QUOTE]I thought I would add my comments in here. I have HSV1, ie. A cold sore show up on my bottom lip approx once per year now for each of the last 20 odd years. It exhibits all the symptoms you might expect. Some irritation\itchiness for a couple of days prior to appearance, it then shows up in the exact same place every time and then after 3-4 days it backs of and dissapears. It does seem to be linked to stress and causes me no distress, either emotionally or physically.
Now, I am married and have been with the same woman, (with some occasional mongering thrown in on the side. More about that later), for the last 15 years. I have DATY with her hundreds\thousands of times, DFK, etc. Etc. Admittedly not when I have an outbreak. To date she has not caught HSV1, either orally or genitally, nor have my 3 small kids who I regularly kiss on the lips. Conclusions from this?. She either has caught it and never had an outbreak or never caught it. Your guess is as good as mine.
Once other piece of interesting data I found in researching this was that the presence of HPV1 in someones system results in creation of antibodies that offer some pretty good protection against HPV2, (40 % is the figure I read).
As I mentioned above I do partake in some occasional mongering whilst on business trips, primarily to Mexico and Costa Rica. This is always CFS, some BBBJ, some CBJ, some DATY. The volume of my mongering is pretty light when compared to the pros on this board. Anyway about 18 months ago the wife went for a PAP screening with new Dr. The results of the pap screen showed HPV. One of the high risk types that does not cause warts. You can imagine the fallout even though I denied everything and found evidence on the web it could have been there for years etc. Etc. Every other part of the PAP screening was normal and the Doc said not to worry as it was only a "finding", everyone has it and in the vast, vast, vast majority of cases the immune system takes over and knocks out the virus within 12 months and she would retest at the next pap smear. The Doc's only explanation was that I had been unfaithful. (What a c*nt, why the f*ck even test for it if, based on my research this is only tested for if the pap screening is irregular etc, etc.) Anyway, the wife's pissed. Fast forward 12 months later, (during which I had mongered 2-3 times in Mexico), the wife goes for her annual check up and pap smear etc. Etc. Retest for HPV etc. Everything comes back normal. Wife is still pissed. Dr reemphasises what she thinks, (ie. Unfaithful hubby), or at an outside bet a false positive on the test. To top all this. The wife has yeast infection at the time so "just to be safe" she tests for every god damn STD under the sun, (all negative). I felt like killing the Doc of course.
From time to time we get a seasoned monger state that they have never caught an STD after 20 years or so. And I believe them. Occasionally we hear of a monger owning to catching a dose and taking the ABs but I've never heard very much about a monger owing up to having caught Herpes (HSV2) or the wart forming version of HPV. Maybe we should have a poll or some of you would like to jump in and tell of their experiences with specifically HSV. (PS. I'm going to Rio and BAs in a couple of weeks for a 2 week trip. First time, on my own, without the ball and chain. Let me know if any of you want to hook up.)
Shagger
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[QUOTE=July Gan]L Uomo girls get seen every 2 weeks by Dr Silvera at Largo do Machado. Very very few of them do not have genital herpes, which erupts several times a year. This is routinely dealt with with a recommendation that they take a few days off. They get given a piece of paper and they choose whether to show it to the manageress. Blood test results, if positive, get communicated to management, Nothing stops the girls to do a "programa por fora" with all of us who have their cell phones.[/QUOTE]I thought I would add my comments in here. I have had HSV1, ie. A cold sore show up on my bottom lip approx once per year now for each of the last 20 odd years. It exhibits all the symptoms you might expect. Some irritation\itchiness for a couple of days prior to appearance, it then shows up in the exact same place and then after 3-4 days it backs of and dissapears. It does seem to be linked to stress.
Now, I am married and have been with the same woman, (with some occasional mongering thrown in on the side. More about that later), for the last 15 years. I have DATY with her hundreds\thousands of times, DFK, etc. Etc. Admittedly not when I have an outbreak. To date she has not caught HSV1, either orally or genitally, nor have my 3 small kids who I regularly kiss on the lips. Conclusions from this?. She either has caught it and never had an outbreak or never caught it. Your guess is as good as mine.
Once other piece of interesting data I found in researching this was that the presence of HPV1 in someones system results in creation of antibodies that offer some pretty good protection against HPV2, (40 % is the figure I read).
As I mentioned above I do partake in some occasional mongering whilst on business trips, primarily to Mexico and Costa Rica. This is always CFS, some BBBJ, some CBJ, some DATY. The volume of my mongering is pretty light when compared to the pros on this board. Anyway about 18 months ago the wife went for a PAP screening with new Dr. The results of the pap screen showed HPV. One of the high risk types that does not cause warts. You can imagine the fallout even though I denied everything and found evidence on the web it could have been there for years etc. Etc. Every other part of the PAP screening was normal and the Doc said not to worry as it was only a "finding", everyone has it and in the vast, vast, vast majority of cases the immune system takes over and knocks out the virus within 12 months and she would retest at the next pap smear. The Doc's only explanation was that I had been unfaithful. (What a c*nt, why the f*ck even test for it if, based on my research this is only tested for if the pap screening is irregular etc, etc.) Anyway, the wife's pissed. Fast forward 12 months later, (during which I had mongered 2-3 times in Mexico), the wife goes for her annual check up and pap smear etc. Etc. Retest for HPV etc. Everything comes back normal. Wife is still pissed. Dr reemphasises what she thinks, (ie. Unfaithful hubby), or at an outside bet a false positive on the test. To top all this. The wife has yeast infection at the time so "just to be safe" she tests for every god damn STD under the sun, (all negative). I felt like killing the Doc of course.
From time to time we get a seasoned monger state that they have never caught an STD after 20 years or so. And I believe them. Occasionally we hear of a monger owning to catching a dose and taking the ABs but I've never heard very much about a monger owing up to having caught Herpes (HSV2) or the wart forming version of HPV. Maybe we should.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]It's an open forum and the conversation can go anywhere although you seem to want to center it on your field reports. Of course they are not interested in the skanky girls there and the fact that they have higher standards in cleanliness is too funny.
Question: you were with 21 girls but only came half the time. What's the point of running around and not finishing?[/QUOTE]Sure, why not..I haven't seen any newer reports to talk about yet. You've spoken of your girlfriend, and orgies with her friends and picking up GDP's in Rio. Sounds on topic. Post away and show us some pix of that pretty girl of yours.
Well, not necessarily skanky. Two of the girls are 4x4 quality and the rest are skanky. Yes, its funny that Brasileros have higher standards. If I was only sessioning a girl once in a while presumably like them, I'd go high end every time too...except at 4x4. But I don't layover there on my own time just so I can bang a *few* girls. Plus, everytime I think of termas, like when I went to Luomo, I feel like I must be becoming an 'ugly American' ...Chris gave me a psychological aversion to termas with his post here [post]996418[/post] :) White sheet air conditioned sanitized McPussy where every man is special and 'it's like Cheers' as someone here said. I prefer the dirty raw stuff when on the road overseas. Now I see that even Brasilians go for the gentrified scene. First they let the polits suggest that Rudy would come down and take over their city, now they need termas instead of the mom and pop places..what's next? Bill Clinton will set up an office in VM?
I only pop half the time because only half the girls that I session are willing to do CIM. That doesn't mean that I don't enjoy getting covered service at BA85 and places like that, it is good, just that I'd rather some girl taste it rather than bag it and throw it away. I wouldn't pop everything in a bag and then be shooting air when I get CIM girls later in the day. Ever heard the Monty Python thing.. every sperm is sacred. ;)
Secondly, if I pop more than twice per day the urge is pretty much quenched. So it works best if I do a couple covered just for sport and a couple uncovered that get the pops. Nothing available in Rio is so hot that it would make me want to pop 4 times per day..it's pretty plain sex even if you get anal and so forth. I'm sure kink is available, but it's not like Tokyo or something where I could pop 10 times per day because the girls are so perverted. Different ethos there.
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What constitutes an ugly American?
[QUOTE=Puta Playa] I feel like I must be becoming an 'ugly American' [/QUOTE]Can you explain what constitutes an ugly American. I would be fascinated to know what you consider ugly.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]It's an open forum and the conversation can go anywhere although you seem to want to center it on your field reports. Of course they are not interested in the skanky girls there and the fact that they have higher standards in cleanliness is too funny.
Question: you were with 21 girls but only came half the time. What's the point of running around and not finishing?[/QUOTE]Hughdad,
You I dont think you realize what your doing but its insulting comments and trying to degrade other posters choice of women is the reason some people wont even post their reports on here. For the sake of this board stop doing it, What are getting out of trying to knock what the next man does? Its their money, their time and their dick so cut it out already because you dont own this board.
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[quote=java man]vitamin c?...ozone?....ozone?? huh?
just a quick search on ozone:
"therapeutic use of ozone is not endorsed by health authorities or medical associations in any english speaking country, and most us states prohibit the marketing of ozone generators, its medical use, and even research and clinical trials of ozone therapy, so that doctors risk losing their medical licenses by administering or prescribing ozone therapies."
gary null sounds like a quack:
[url]http://www.quackwatch.org/04consumereducation/null.html[/url]
does he sell snake oil too?? :)
whatever works for you auri.
btw, the antibiotics my quack gives me, cures my illnesses, (when i get sick.) but i promise to eat more oranges. :)[/quote]wow your really a innovator because you can do a 2 second google search. i admire a guy that can come up with zero intel but yet make a foolish response like you did.
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[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]ROFLMAO!
You are an Idiot! There is no polite way to say it. You just quoted me for the 4th time a guy thats not a Medical Doctor and a claim that was latter found to be not only unsubstantiated but found to be manipulated. You wanna cure a yeast infection, improve Blood flow or deal with bacterial infections go right ahead; alternatively, your not going to be able to deal with a virus (Period) Seems like you need a lesson in virology and DNA. Lets not even talk about the mortality rates of subjects treated with lone holistic methods. >130k die a year in Africa alone from lack of Antivirals and 100% , Yes 100% early mortality found when only treated with roots, berries and voo-doo.
STFU your embarrassing yourself!
Anyway, Best bet to stay STD free is to limit exchanges of body fluid, skin to skin contact and always use condoms as SlimHoleDrill illustrates. Damn thats a boring sexual experience. Face it, your having sex your taking a chance on catching something. Its up to you to manage those chances.
The truth is that most of these girls are checked. Yes, Even at VM they have access to DRs via the frequent free Clinics. However, what they do with the information and when they leave the clubs is up to them. You talk to some of these ladies more than "suck, bend over and how much" you will start learning some shit about some that will absolutely make you puke. The cleanest and prettiest are not always the safest. Especially the x porn-stars. The Majority have had or has currently have an STD of some sort. Was talking to a Brazilian working DR out of DollHouse. We were hanging for a couple of days and she had me rolling about things the girls do and how nasty some of us are. She worked at 4x4, Solarium, Centurians & occasionally VM. The worst or funniest thing was that, if its the first of the month or mid, there is a chance 50% of the girls are bleeding and still working using as-sundry tricks to mask.(cycle syncing) She admitted to doing the same and many client Dinned literally during the period.
I laughed until I looked at me watch and it was Aug 3rd![/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] You prove nothing with your modern medicine lies. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
Like I said mr modern medicine supporter your mainstream doctors have done ZERO in the fight against aids and stds but the money keeps rolling in and ending up in their pockets. its all just just status quo and your a part of it.
All the proof is documented that stds and full blown aids have been reversed and modern medicine has yet to do this. So save all your corny insults for the mourning famlies who have to suffer because of the ignorance and stupidity of modern medicines death drugs and [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] who preach their incompetance.
I dont need to read stats from the utterly corrupt and vile organizations that are paid off to look the other way. They have nothing but steal money. no results no improvements just corruption.
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[QUOTE=Fred100]Can you explain what constitutes an ugly American. I would be fascinated to know what you consider ugly.[/QUOTE]
Awww. Let it go. If being brash, loud and egotistical is being an Ugly American we will take it. We Ugly Americans seem to be the only group with nuts left in this feminized world. Lets ball until we fall. Come on in or get the phuck out the way!
I'm just tired of trying to defend it. Its like my Aussie friend says to me: "Awww fuckem mate their just jealous. Besides your on Holiday!"
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[QUOTE=Auriflama]Antivirals are garbage mr modern medicine supporter and so is this misinformation you are giving this board. here is a link about aids please read it even though I know you will dismiss it no matter it says because your stuck in your ways.
[url]http://www.garynull.com/home/aids-is-not-a-death-sentence.html[/url]
Just look at the success of modern meds with aids and stds and its ZERO while holisitic protocols have reversed stds using ozone and vitamin c intravenously. its all about money and ceo's getting mega-rich and they dont give a damn who dies and who lives. Keeping people sick is good business in the usa.
Also no link from wikisleezia[/QUOTE]Amazing. I always find the tinfoil hat brigade interesting.
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I wasn't having a pop at the Americans
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Awww. Let it go. If being brash, loud and egotistical is being an Ugly American we will take it. We Ugly Americans seem to be the only group with nuts left in this feminized world. Lets ball until we fall. Come on in or get the phuck out the way!
I'm just tired of trying to defend it. Its like my Aussie friend says to me: "Awww fuckem mate their just jealous. Besides your on Holiday!"[/QUOTE]Alex,
Sorry, I wasn't having a pop at the Americans. In fact, if you were to ask the girls, most would say the gringo johns are far more considerate than their Brazilian counterparts.
It would be a boring old world without a few larger than life characters. No culture has cornered the market on the ass hole factor. It becomes ugly when people think because they are paying they can treat their fellow human beings as sub humans. It's not just offensive to the victim, it offends most of the other people in the room.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Sure, why not..I haven't seen any newer reports to talk about yet. You've spoken of your girlfriend, and orgies with her friends and picking up GDP's in Rio. Sounds on topic. Post away and show us some pix of that pretty girl of yours.
Well, not necessarily skanky. Two of the girls are 4x4 quality and the rest are skanky. Yes, its funny that Brasileros have higher standards.
Secondly, if I pop more than twice per day the urge is pretty much quenched. So it works best if I do a couple covered just for sport and a couple uncovered that get the pops. [/QUOTE]Posted useful info when I sessioned regularly. Never did photos as I am not into the whole game trophy thing. I don't dwell on past, and don't get my rocks off by having others live vicariously through my adventures.
To me, if I don't cum it ain't worth the effort. Why pay to frustrate myself? I'd rather session less often with better quality ladies in much better conditions. But to each his own.
I haven't been sessioning much and have decided to bow out officially when I return to Brazil next month. My lady and her best friend are moving in. I consider myself fortunate to have the experiences I had and to have come out healthy. I think the discussions about safe sex that resulted from your field reports are a good thing. I wish you well and good health too.
I still come here as I find some useful info here for several work projects. All reports are not sex related.
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[QUOTE=Fred100]Alex,
Sorry, I wasn't having a pop at the Americans. In fact, if you were to ask the girls, most would say the gringo johns are far more considerate than their Brazilian counterparts.
It would be a boring old world without a few larger than life characters. No culture has cornered the market on the ass hole factor. It becomes ugly when people think because they are paying they can treat their fellow human beings as sub humans. It's not just offensive to the victim, it offends most of the other people in the room.[/QUOTE]
Put this into perspective, you can't name an incident where the American has treated people less than human. Thats some Euro , SA & Middle east Shit! Would you prefer loud humane or quiet azzholes?
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After another 2 second search, here's my Zero Intel for the day. (I'm just trying to increase my admiration society amongst the tinfoil hat brigade.) ROTFLMAO
"Passport fees going up next week
Get ready to open your wallet a little wider to satisfy your travel bug: It is soon going to cost more to apply for a new U.S. passport or renew an old one -- a move criticized by the public and some lawmakers.
Starting next Tuesday, adults applying for their first passport book will have to pay $135 -- a 35 percent increase from the current $100 fee.
(The cost of the wallet-size passport card, which Americans can use on certain trips closer to home, is rising from $45 to $55 for first-time applicants.)
Want to add more visa pages to your passport book? It's free now, but you will have to shell out $82 under the new fee schedule.
The renewal fee for passport books will rise to $110 -- up from the current $75.
There's even a new fee if you'd like formally to renounce your U.S. citizenship -- it costs nothing now, but the price tag will be $450 starting Tuesday..."
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/07/07/passport.fees.hike/index.html?hpt=Sbin[/url]
CONSULAR FEES EFFECTIVE JULY 13, 2010:
[url]http://travel.state.gov/news/news_5078.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=John Cricket]Amazing. I always find the tinfoil hat brigade interesting.[/QUOTE]I always find the blind sheep who are led to the slaughterhouse known as modern medicines death drugs even more interesting.
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[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Put this into perspective, you can't name an incident where the American has treated people less than human. Thats some Euro , SA & Middle east Shit! Would you prefer loud humane or quiet azzholes?[/QUOTE]Well, I'm sure we could - and not just with the Americans, but with any people. But if someone did, you would probably complain and it would be off-topic, in any case.
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[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Put this into perspective, you can't name an incident where the American has treated people less than human. Thats some Euro , SA & Middle east Shit! Would you prefer loud humane or quiet azzholes?[/QUOTE]Yes I can. But that has no reflection on the the American people. There is good and bad wherever you travel. I'm an old vet. Did service in the far east early seventies.
In answerer to your question "a loud humane" any day.
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I resent that remark tremendously!!!
Not all of us wrap our heads in tin foil!!! Some of us use Saran Wrap :D
[QUOTE=Java Man]After another 2 second search, here's my Zero Intel for the day. (I'm just trying to increase my admiration society amongst the tinfoil hat brigade.) ROTFLMAO
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]
Question: you were with 21 girls but only came half the time. What's the point of running around and not finishing?[/QUOTE]
Probably to enjoy the company of many women in a short period of time
and still have energy for night time activities.
I did this afew times when I was in centro as it suited my mood for that day.
Of course if it were high end termas I would see your point.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Probably to enjoy the company of many women in a short period of time
and still have energy for night time activities.
I did this afew times when I was in centro as it suited my mood for that day.
Of course if it were high end termas I would see your point.[/QUOTE]
Come on now, there is a limit we all know exist where your eyes outmatch your libido. The smart mongers recognize this and pace accordingly. Cialias and Viagra can only do so much before your libodo says: Dayum! Most men never get to this point. Most guys just want the notch and experience of having a Grota that damn fine.
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Fuck as many as possible
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koolkid
Probably to enjoy the company of many women in a short period of time
and still have energy for night time activities.
I did this afew times when I was in centro as it suited my mood for that day.
Of course if it were high end termas I would see your point.
Alex Deuce:
Come on now, there is a limit we all know exist where your eyes outmatch your libido. The smart mongers recognize this and pace accordingly. Cialias and Viagra can only do so much before your libodo says: Dayum! Most men never get to this point. Most guys just want the notch and experience of having a Grota that damn fine.
Hi
I agree with koolkid, i sometime have hard to come as well, and the good thing with that is that i can fuck a new girl direct afterwards
The most important for me is to fuck as many girls i can.
In Belem i fucked 3-4 every day. and i have never used viagra
BL
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Leisurely day of sex in Rio
[QUOTE=ButtLover]Quote:
Alex Deuce:
Come on now, there is a limit we all know exist where your eyes outmatch your libido. The smart mongers recognize this and pace accordingly. Cialias and Viagra can only do so much before your libodo says: Dayum! Most men never get to this point. Most guys just want the notch and experience of having a Grota that damn fine.
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For the fuck as many as possible sex addict crowd, who doesn't drink much or do much touristy stuff to interfere with sex hunting time, here is my sample itinerary. It sensible enough that you can keep up the pace for practically an infinite number of days until you run out of cash or lose urge due to popping too often. I never pop in a condom these days so, due to rampant use of condoms for BJ in Rio, overpopping is not a concern. When I was new to mongering, I always popped just because I was so horny about all the new girls that I could pop even if I had 2 rubbers on. But now they just don't turn me on that much unless I see that they are willing to at least do a CIM finish or similar natural ending.
Some girls are very sexual and want to do things fairly naturally. Some girls are just there for the money and want to cover everything. In the cheap places like VM or BA85, I usually just pick a girl and take her back with little introduction, but I'm very genuine and act like a real person in the apartments and termas. I treat them like ladies, even when they don't act like one, and I do my best to give them good sex, oral and otherwise, at personal risk to my health. So I expect the same back when I go into anyplace that is more than $R2/min.
I keep hunting and inevitably every day I'll find at least 2 who really 'own' who they are and like what they do and aren't afraid of an uncovered finish. These are the girls who don't act and do all the fake screaming and stuff like that..just sex in whatever positions seem right and then CIM or the rare BBFS finish. I like to find the girls who would be having sex with complete strangers even if they weren't getting paid. Like the girls in the adult bookstores in the USA who come in to be fucked and do gloryhole stuff, for no money, just for the psychological kick...something with the same free attitude, but Brasilian and 20 something and working in an apartment. That's my type. ;) I sessioned 21 girls last week, and maybe 4 of them had such a good attitude that showed in everything that they did...from the opening smile to the finish. But I was mongering low end, if not for all the soccer mania closing down the city, I could have spent more time in the apartments and found more real girls who just love sex. I expect to find most of them working there. Termas girls are mainly very good and highly paid actresses, R/min girls don't even act the part, and apartment girls are the most genuine in my experience with the part-timers in Florida being a close second.
Here goes:
11 AM: Rio Branco 156 and 185, up to the apartments to find a nice girl who wants to take a pop CIM. 1 hr/R100
Noon: Grab a bite to eat, sucos, and cafezinho. Walk over by Carioca station to see if there is a street magician or similar entertainment.
1 pm: Stroll over to BA85 and see what's happening. Probably pull a nice one for 20-30 minutes of all covered, but still fun, sex. It's all very fake porno-feeling, so there's no sense in wasting a pop and libido on it. Approx 1R/min
3:30 pm: Go interviewing at some other apartments. Grab another for pop 2, if she takes CIM. 40 minutes/R80
5:00 pm: Leisurely dinner and more sucos. Acerola and maracuja makes me feel good.
7:00 pm: Take the bus to VM, have a few beers, shop for gems. Session one for 30 minutes, covered BJ and FS with no pop wasted. 30 min/R28-32
11:30: Off to Club Florida. Nurse an Antarctica and get cozy with the girls. Interview until you find one worthy of pop 2 or 3, hopefully waiting until after 1:30 when the number of girls is at a maximum. 40 minutes/R90 + R10 entrada + 3xR6 cervejas + R2 tip for the towel hag.
2:30: Back to the hotel, resize and post pics, write your reports to ISG, shower to feel nice, then crash and recover for the next day.
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An excellent itinerary, PP. Rather more organised than mine (which tends to be VM till about 3am then slumming in the Prado bars till sunrise).
[i]This post is from Christopherd btw, but I can't log in. ISG is currently quoting an erroneous email address for me which doesn't seem to update. Hopefully Jackson can get round to fixing it.[/i]
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]For the fuck as many as possible sex addict crowd, ... [/QUOTE]
ROFLMAO. This is hilarious. Let's start the sex olympics. How many can you do in a certain amount of time? Why spend all that time on sucos and strolling around? Just go to BA 85 and do every one there. Only dip in until you find one who will CIM then pop for her. This is so organized: 21 gpd, only pop for those who CIM. I wish I was that organized. But, I will quote
Cheryl Crowe.
"All I wanta do is have some fun. I don't think I'm the only one.."
ROFLMAO.
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Downtown
So, here is an update that has nothing to do with my personal preferences about CIM.
Went to Bel Prazer on Friday. A little late for me, after 3. OMG, Nossa, it was standing room only. Standard is pretty mediocre. Lots of big buts, but doable. Wouldn't recommend under these conditions. Had a session with a newbie, but prettty mediocre.
Checked out flavia at 181 Rio Branco, 1006 and as reported, it is not open. This was at 11:45 on a weekday, so I don't know what is going on there.
Also, a really strange thing. Mabs seems to be closed. I went by there mid afternoon and the tables were not out. No idea what is going on, but they didn't seem to be open.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa] ... But now they just don't turn me on that much unless I see that they are willing to at least do a CIM finish or similar natural ending.
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I am so, so sorry for you in this case. Personally, after many years, I am still allured by the subtle curve of a young breast and the plump rise of the young ass. I think your schedule of how many you will do and in what manner is a turn off for me. It sounds like an American on vacation.
You seem obsessed with focusing on what your needs are rather than what the situation is on the ground, although you give some of this. If you have more to add on the actual scene in Rio rather than your desires for bare back, that would be interesting, but more on the bare back stuff is, frankly, boring.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]... due to rampant use of condoms for BJ in Rio, overpopping is not a concern. When I was new to mongering, I always popped just because I was so horny about all the new girls that I could pop even if I had 2 rubbers on. But now they just don't turn me on that much unless I see that they are willing to at least do a CIM finish or similar natural ending.[/QUOTE]
I'm with you there. It wasn't all that long ago that BBBJ was the norm, just as all-night episodes were. Sadly, we've reached a point where the girls hustle for short time, and if they can do it all without having to touch your skin at all, then all the better for them. This, sadly, doesn't do it for me anymore.
I submit that this is the fault of the over-popularity of mongering, with many who are willing to settle for less, and the girls are picking up on that. Also, this is not limited to Brazil.. Every major mongering country now has the same problems -- Colombia, DR, Argentina, SE Asia, etc. Interestingly, it seems that in Central America you can still find some good service the way you want it, although the girls are not so hot. But since those locations are not so popular, the girls don't get to be too choosy about what they will and will not do.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]
You seem obsessed with focusing on what your needs are rather than what the situation is on the ground, although you give some of this. If you have more to add on the actual scene in Rio rather than your desires for bare back, that would be interesting, but more on the bare back stuff is, frankly, boring.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry that the complete addresses, hours, girls, bus routes, lodging, descriptions of services and pictures did not meet your expectations for 'the situation on the ground.' By the way, I already posted twice that Flavias is closed. A little less trolling and a little more trusting would have saved you the time.
So here is my take on the situation on the ground. Just one guy's opinion, totally subjective, and another might take it differently but here's one way of thinking:
VM: Go there to get your monger stripes, listen to music, drink cheap beer, and have large selection of mostly lackadaisical providers to choose from. If you require a 3 star hotel or higher, you probably wouldn't like it. If you'd fuck a girl behind a dumpster and think it was pretty cool, or like realism in mongering as opposed to a Playboy mansion scenario, this is your place.
BA85: I prefer it over VM at the same price. The girls seem more interested in the mongers and it's easy to reach. I get better more enthusiastic service there.
Bel Prazer: Go there for decent service, without expectations for a looker. Bianca is the only one that I could look at and really get excited about.
Club Florida: If I could hang out in only one place in Rio, this would be it. Lots of girls, good quality overall, it pulls in 'my day off' termas girls and semi-pros, the music is the best of any hohouse that I've been to in Rio (electrohouse and funk), and you can pick a great provider from there with enough interviewing. It's open till 5 am and you can smoke there.
Luomo:
Sex tourist central. Everything feels staged and many guys are trying way too hard to seem cool like high rollers or big time pimps. Hard to do when you are dressed in a robe and wearing a wrist band like an insane asylum patient. The service is good if negotiated properly up front and you can spend some time with a girl. It just feels like a gringo trap, like most of Copa in general.
Bar 22:
It's boring except during bingo time, quality is low, but I've found decent girls there twice.
4x4:
It’s loud and has so many people that it’s hard to spend time with a girl and get a good sense of what she’ll be like in the cabine. Pull her out of the boite and interview there. The probability of finding good services and looks is the best in Rio, due to the large number of girls and that many have a good attitude.
Uruguania 210:
Real low end. VM or BA85 are better options at lower prices.
Staying in Centro:
I like Ibis. It’s cheap, centrally located, clean. If someone gave me money for Copa Palace, I might still stay at Ibis and give the rest back because I like the location and being in Centro versus Zona Sul.
Overall situation on the ground in Rio:
It’s great with many options, but it’s not sex paradise by any means. You have to interview hard to get what you want, prices aren’t cheap relative to what guys pay in SEA, and girls don’t *need* the money. Even now in the winter, most of the places are full of mongers and you have to wait for girls sometimes. So there is little incentive for a girl to provide extra services, because the guy next to you will pay the same price for less service. You need to have a good attitude and good interviewing skills. Like Brazil Lover said, girls get to be picky here about what they will and won’t do. They aren’t dirt poor and have other options, so they operate on their own terms. If someone is travelling just for sex, I recommend someplace else like Jakarta for good looking girls, more service at lower prices and things like people describe from the ‘glory days of Rio.’ If someone wants to have a cultural experience with more than just sex, has a significant sex budget like R1800/wk and is willing to do homework on places and learn a little Porto to use in interviewing girls, then Rio is a still a good option for the complete package of easy to reach cultural experiences + sex. In the future, who knows, maybe Rio will price itself out of the market due to high lodging costs, visas, tourist taxes in Copa, increasing poon costs, and the stronger Real. But for now it's still reliable for good sex, services are often limited but the services are rendered with good effort, and it isn't too costly, so every ISG person should go there once before it's gentrified into a 'has been' sex destination.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]I am so, so sorry for you in this case. Personally, after many years, I am still allured by the subtle curve of a young breast and the plump rise of the young ass. I think your schedule of how many you will do and in what manner is a turn off for me. It sounds like an American on vacation.
You seem obsessed with focusing on what your needs are rather than what the situation is on the ground, although you give some of this. If you have more to add on the actual scene in Rio rather than your desires for bare back, that would be interesting, but more on the bare back stuff is, frankly, boring.[/QUOTE]
Many of us enjoyed Puta Playa's bold attempt to tap all the ass he can bareback, it makes for a fun and informative read. I don't know how anyone could be bored by the thought of their cock in pussy without an annoying latex barrier, or how anyone could not obsess about it unless they are gay. I mean, think about it, at some point, this whole site... even our whole adult lives... the whole lives of the human race... is just one cock after another in one pussy after another. But never is it boring.
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Pp.
PP, a very nice summary of mongering in Rio.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Luomo:
Sex tourist central. Everything feels staged and many guys are trying way too hard to seem cool like high rollers or big time pimps. Hard to do when you are dressed in a robe and wearing a wrist band like an insane asylum patient. [/QUOTE]
That was funny.
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From prevous experiences...
I've been advised that locals get paid on Thursdays, so all venues will be packed with locals from late that afternoon and Fridays. Those with disposable income, of course are going to satisfy their libidos with some sweet, young thing. I try always going early and not during those days if possible. Things are back to normal on Saturdays.
[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]So, here is an update that has nothing to do with my personal preferences about CIM.
Went to Bel Prazer on Friday. A little late for me, after 3. OMG, Nossa, it was standing room only. Standard is pretty mediocre. Lots of big buts, but doable. Wouldn't recommend under these conditions. Had a session with a newbie, but prettty mediocre.
Checked out flavia at 181 Rio Branco, 1006 and as reported, it is not open. This was at 11:45 on a weekday, so I don't know what is going on there.
Also, a really strange thing. Mabs seems to be closed. I went by there mid afternoon and the tables were not out. No idea what is going on, but they didn't seem to be open.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]Many of us enjoyed Puta Playa's bold attempt to tap all the ass he can bareback, it makes for a fun and informative read. I don't know how anyone could be bored by the thought of their cock in pussy without an annoying latex barrier, or how anyone could not obsess about it unless they are gay. I mean, think about it, at some point, this whole site... even our whole adult lives... the whole lives of the human race... is just one cock after another in one pussy after another. But never is it boring.[/QUOTE]
Thinking about mine is one thing and what I do is not boring for me. Reading about others is different. Just my opinion.
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1]I've been advised that locals get paid on Thursdays, so all venues will be packed with locals from late that afternoon and Fridays. Those with disposable income, of course are going to satisfy their libidos with some sweet, young thing. I try always going early and not during those days if possible. Things are back to normal on Saturdays.[/QUOTE]
I thought that because traffic is light and a lot of people are on vacation that maybe that would translate to light traffic in the apartments. But not the case. I also always try to go early, too, but somehow, work got in the way.
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I don't think this is entirely true
[QUOTE=Brazil Lover]I'm with you there. It wasn't all that long ago that BBBJ was the norm, just as all-night episodes were. Sadly, we've reached a point where the girls hustle for short time, and if they can do it all without having to touch your skin at all, then all the better for them. This, sadly, doesn't do it for me anymore.
I submit that this is the fault of the over-popularity of mongering, with many who are willing to settle for less, and the girls are picking up on that. Also, this is not limited to Brazil.. Every major mongering country now has the same problems -- Colombia, DR, Argentina, SE Asia, etc. Interestingly, it seems that in Central America you can still find some good service the way you want it, although the girls are not so hot. But since those locations are not so popular, the girls don't get to be too choosy about what they will and will not do.[/QUOTE]I don't think this is entirely true. There are still too many prostitutes that are prepared (or forced) to risk their health with BB services. A few I suppose make the decision to BB because they like it. A few due to ignorance (or they are just reckless by nature). For many it is purely the desperation of poverty and the possible fear of the repercussions from a pimp if they don't please the john. I can tell from some of the posts there are a few that think that the places like L'uomo are not run by pimps (ask the girls what happens if they refuse a john or don't meet monthly quota). There are many layers of prostitution around the world from the High end call girl, to the victims of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]. There are mongers of all types as well. I do think that if there is any justice in the universe, some mongers will be reincarnated in the next life as a 15 year old girl in a one dollar bikini in a Mumbai hell house.
Be careful what justifying games you play in your head. It might be you in that one dollar bikini.
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1]I've been advised that locals get paid on Thursdays, so all venues will be packed with locals from late that afternoon and Fridays. Those with disposable income, of course are going to satisfy their libidos with some sweet, young thing. I try always going early and not during those days if possible. Things are back to normal on Saturdays.[/QUOTE]Locals get paid once a month, not on Thursdays. It's typically a set date, not day. The 5th working day of the month is very popular. So the period from the 5th to the 10th is the high time.
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[QUOTE=Fred100] I can tell from some of the posts there are a few that think that the places like L'uomo are not run by pimps (ask the girls what happens if they refuse a john or don't meet monthly quota).
It might be you in that one dollar bikini.[/QUOTE]
That's what happens when a joão at Luomo can't pay his session fees. Ever wonder why some of those girls are so stout and tall and look like they might have had some plastic work? ;)
Back in Rio in about 2 weeks on an unanticipated biz + pleasure trip. Any requests for me to check out new places and report? Just pm me. I'll be going for quality and adventure this time, rather than volume. The 21 girls + food + hotel last month cost me waaay more than I realized until I added it all up tonight.
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I have to disagree with you...
Speak to the locals there in bunda land and you can confirm the info being made available to you. Most can't go a whole month without seeing any cash. Plus there is a strong posibility of working a whole month and not getting paid at all. The major corporations and the government institutions can get away with that, but not your typical local small business; they will pay weekly or at worst every 2nd week. Over 75% of the people there work for small businesses.
[QUOTE=John Cricket]Locals get paid once a month, not on Thursdays. It's typically a set date, not day. The 5th working day of the month is very popular. So the period from the 5th to the 10th is the high time.[/QUOTE]
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L'uomo and speak to Phillipe
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Back in Rio in about 2 weeks on an unanticipated biz + pleasure trip. Any requests for me to check out new places and report? Just pm me. I'll be going for quality and adventure this time, rather than volume. The 21 girls + food + hotel last month cost me waaay more than I realized until I added it all up tonight.[/QUOTE]PP
Great trip reports looking forward too reading about your next adventure. Don't really need quite so much graphic detail, bit creepy.
If you end up in L'uomo and speak to Phillipe one of the owners, Please tell him that his fellow members at the Urubo club send their regards. Doubt it! but you might get a free drink. Brazileros can be a bit tight when it comes to getting the drinks.
I arrive in Rio on the 23rd of July.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa] I'll be going for quality and adventure this time, rather than volume. The 21 girls + food + hotel last month cost me waaay more than I realized until I added it all up tonight.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the agenda you posted did not sound fun at all, really sounded like 7 days of hard work, especially since you only were cumming half the time. And add up all the time you spent traveling around all over Rio looking for lower-cost sessions with average babes, and your cost in $ and time gets expensive. I am not surprised you are rethinking your strategy even though you were so gung ho. My advice: forget posting all the detailed field reports back here to the guys that want to get their rocks off. Just post some new info on rare new finds and spend more time enjoying yourself.
Funny, I was listening to Howard Stern today and he had two Penthouse porn stars on. He was asking them what was real and what was an act. They both said that they hated having their assholes licked but that guys think they really love it. Thought of you.
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Ola mi amigos...
I am new to ISG, this is only my second post. My first post was in the Medellin, Colombia board last night. I just returned from my first trip there a few weeks ago and had a blast. The ladies were beautiful, but I miss my bonita Garotas
I was introduced to Rio in 2008 by some friends who know their way around like crazy (one lives there), and we hit all the Termas, some clubs, and the infamous 'Help' of course. Since then I've returned to Rio four times. I was at 'Help' on its last night (Jan 5th) this year, and subsequently witnessed it's complete destruction as I stayed thru Carnaval
So, can anyone tell me if the ladies are still hanging at Dolce Vita's and Balcony Bar like Chicken's w/out heads? I have a feeling w/the upcoming Worldcup and Olympics that Atlantica Ave. Will never be the same again, but I'm hoping someone will have the balls to open a new "Super Club" close by very soon!
Cheers,
Dan
P.S. And to some of you, you know who you are, please tone down the "Americano's Suck" rhetoric. You just make yourself look ignorant, if not racist. Obrigado.
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Gentlemen, Please!!!
The man (PP) goes out of his way to be unselfish and share his experiences. Is this how we thank the man for the information he provided to the membership? Are you kidding me? Puta Player, go out there and do your thing, man. Many of us actually enjoyed your totally unbiased, extremely accurate account of your adventures. Trust me, more of us actually enjoy first hand information of the scenes in our favorite playground than those who stand on the sidelines and criticize how other people have fun. Just ignore the negativity, enjoy yourself and keep writing those vivid reports. I will be there next month and your information was priceless in setting my own agenda. Your goal of 21 women in 7 days was great. I have been with other members in this forum who have done more. The reason they don’t post, well, read the feedback you got! Don’t be discouraged, have fun, and please, keep posting. Ignore the unhelpful, tin foil hat wearing, conspiracy theorists :D[QUOTE=Hughdad]Yeah, the agenda you posted did not sound fun at all, really sounded like 7 days of hard work, especially since you only were cumming half the time. And add up all the time you spent traveling around all over Rio looking for lower-cost sessions with average babes, and your cost in $ and time gets expensive. I am not surprised you are rethinking your strategy even though you were so gung ho. My advice: forget posting all the detailed field reports back here to the guys that want to get their rocks off. Just post some new info on rare new finds and spend more time enjoying yourself.
Funny, I was listening to Howard Stern today and he had two Penthouse porn stars on. He was asking them what was real and what was an act. They both said that they hated having their assholes licked but that guys think they really love it. Thought of you.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Yeah, the agenda you posted did not sound fun at all, really sounded like 7 days of hard work, especially since you only were cumming half the time. And add up all the time you spent traveling around all over Rio looking for lower-cost sessions with average babes, and your cost in $ and time gets expensive. I am not surprised you are rethinking your strategy even though you were so gung ho. My advice: forget posting all the detailed field reports back here to the guys that want to get their rocks off. Just post some new info on rare new finds and spend more time enjoying yourself.
Funny, I was listening to Howard Stern today and he had two Penthouse porn stars on. He was asking them what was real and what was an act. They both said that they hated having their assholes licked but that guys think they really love it. Thought of you.[/QUOTE]PP has made a great effort to document his experiences and he's supplied lots of useful information (in more ways than you would think). Many are grateful for this info, if only to reevaluate the risks. However it would appear he enjoys the posting more than the experience. I wonder if he takes a clipboard with him on his sex sorties.
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Negativity?
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]The man (PP) goes out of his way to be unselfish and share his experiences. Is this how we thank the man for the information he provided to the membership? Are you kidding me? Puta Player, go out there and do your thing, man. Many of us actually enjoyed your totally unbiased, extremely accurate account of your adventures. Trust me, more of us actually enjoy first hand information of the scenes in our favorite playground than those who stand on the sidelines and criticize how other people have fun. Just ignore the negativity, enjoy yourself and keep writing those vivid reports. I will be there next month and your information was priceless in setting my own agenda. Your goal of 21 women in 7 days was great. I have been with other members in this forum who have done more. The reason they don't post, well, read the feedback you got! Don't be discouraged, have fun, and please, keep posting. Ignore the unhelpful, tin foil hat wearing, conspiracy theorists[/QUOTE]The dude stated he was changing his strategy, and I was supporting his decision. Let the guy enjoy his trip, will you.
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Speak to the locals there in bunda land and you can confirm the info being made available to you. Most can't go a whole month without seeing any cash. Plus there is a strong posibility of working a whole month and not getting paid at all. The major corporations and the government institutions can get away with that, but not your typical local small business; they will pay weekly or at worst every 2nd week. Over 75% of the people there work for small businesses.[/QUOTE]Voyager,
Sorry but you've got it on backwards: major corporations and the federal government typically don't default on salary unless it's a five-alarm emergency. The small-scale private sector does this all the time, however.
I've worked for six employers in Brazil so far: two government and 4 private. The government never faulted on a check, nor did the one big international corporation. The three other private firms. Well, let's put it this way, the last one I worked for was three months in arears when I quit. Only multinationals or the feds for me from now on.
Occasionally, the state organizations will fluff a payment and the city is notorious for this. But I've got friends who've worked for the federal government for 35 years and have never had a late check.
Also, I've never seen a small local business pay weekly providing it has legal employees on the books. Off the book employees? Yeah, they might get weekly or bi-weekly. For the rest of us sods, it's monthly. Seriously. Ask around more.
Why do you think we calculate wages in monthly instead of annually or weekly terms here?
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[QUOTE=John Cricket]Voyager,
Sorry but you've got it on backwards: major corporations and the federal government typically don't default on salary unless it's a five-alarm emergency. The small-scale private sector does this all the time, however.
Also, I've never seen a small local business pay weekly providing it has legal employees on the books. Off the book employees? Yeah, they might get weekly or bi-weekly. For the rest of us sods, it's monthly. Seriously. Ask around more.
Why do you think we calculate wages in monthly instead of annually or weekly terms here?[/QUOTE]And why else would there be so many offers all over the place in Brazil to advance 'spot cash' loans?
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]...He was asking them what was real and what was an act. They both said that they hated having their assholes licked but that guys think they really love it...[/QUOTE]
I think, like pussy licking or kissing, chicks like ass licking if they are into the guy, but if they are just acting anyway, they just want the guy to get it over and asslicking is just an uncessary delay of the guy cumming and them getting back to shoe shopping. I don't think anyone objects to the feel of a warm wet tongue in their butt crack if they have no where to go for a while.
Oh, I'm sorry to derail the conversation, let's get back to trashing PP (just kidding, PP).
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I bet termas pay their women on a weekly basis, though.
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Budgetary costs of mongering in Rio
Thanks for the support Voyajer, Sperto, CrazyJ, and others in pm.
There are many styles, but we here all have a lot in common. We're mongers and not the guys who sit at home thinking about it or the ones who come to Rio but are too scared of STI, muggers, their priest or whatever to go out and have fun.. :)
I received a good question in PM and want to bring it here. How much is the typical cost of mongering in Rio, how much money to bring? The inquirer is getting conflicting stories on total cost at places and wanting 15 girls in a week. It can be confusing, with entrance fees varying by entrance time, drink costs varying, girl costs varying. So what's the index look like?
I think it's dependent on how you do it, of course. Let's go by style of fast foda since freerange cost varies so much. I'll estimate a little high to cover public transit costs and contingencies. Anyone agree or disagree?
Robed Rump Rooter:
~R320 damage per girl at the termas including entrance fees and a few drinks. Could escalate fast if girls are working you for drinks.
FedSEX Delivery Man:
~R100 damage per girl at the apartments
Staircase Athlete:
~R45 per girl including cost of drinking beer at VM or BA85 and the like.
Bar Hopping Lush:
~ R120 per girl including entrance and beer at Florida, Bar 22, Club 53, and the ilk.
As a point of reference, a mix of 23 sessions across the above costed me about R3500 inclusive of my daily food and transit but not hotel. But I was eating at kilo places, pasteis, etc and not drinking much beer. Bus instead of taxi. Sleep in a bed at a VM casa for R10 per night instead of a hotel. (Just kidding about the bed, but the resident girls at Florida do sleep in fuck beds)
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Puta Playa,
As stated earlier, the supposed experts will kill you every-time. THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCES. We all learned a great deal from them.
CONTINUE TO DO YOU.....................
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[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Puta Playa,
As stated earlier, the supposed experts will kill you every-time. THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCES. We all learned a great deal from them.
CONTINUE TO DO YOU.....................[/QUOTE]Yes something for everyone.
For those of us that have a sex life outside of mongering. Even if you show no symptoms get fully checked a couple of times before having sex with friends(antibody check more than 12 weeks after). Or at least tell them EXACTLY what you have been doing. Not fair to have people swimming in the monger pond by proxy without the fun or the knowledge. Mongers can be the smartest people in the world, when it comes to justifying their actions.
When you "drooling in your oatmeal" at the old peoples home (pp quote). Make sure the memories are good ones. The little head that does the justifying now wont be their to help.
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My personal plans (More or less)
Let's assume I'll be on the ground for 7 days. My budget will look something like this:
4 X 4: 5 Days, 7 garotas: 7 X 220 = 1540
Drinks, food: 375
Other spots: 10 garotas: 10 X 100 = 1000
Food, miscellaneous: = 350
Transportation: = 230
Total: Br = 3495
I agree, man. Fun can be expensive. I have a lot of wiggle room built in since I like going to the cheap spots first before slurging on the large Terma (I only use one :D). I always use the metro and taxis when I really need to use one (Stuck on Villa Mimosa late at night, completely drained, not wanting to do the perp walk from Sao Cristovao metro, for example). I use the metro almost exclusively and walk around quite abit, about 7 to 10 miles per day, easy. I pick hotels that have breakfast included to save on meals (Yeah, I know, it is a pain in the ass to get up that early, but I am not there to sleep :D).
As far as the activities, I do love duplas and sometimes I will take a foursome (3 gals and me) on weekends because there is nothing better to do. From time to time, at 4 X 4, for example, after I do a gal early (You know about the Br 50 you save each time you take a girl before 5pm), but while there, later, as all the other girls get there, you just have to have another one? I know I'll do that at least twice every trip, maybe more. What can you do, man, it is the power of the bunda. You lose control and the girls that know me there, know this. Drinks and food I do like you do, except I like taking my favorite girl (s) out after a shift for a meal from time to time. I'll average somewhere between 15 to 25 gals on a trip because I like to double up so many times. However, only when with two or more gals at once, they want to see your leche at least twice so, I have to balance the frequency because I am not as young as I used to be. Getting old is a serious drag, man :D
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Thanks for the support Voyajer, Sperto, CrazyJ, and others in pm.
Robed Rump Rooter:
~R320 damage per girl at the termas including entrance fees and a few drinks. Could escalate fast if girls are working you for drinks.
FedSEX Delivery Man:
~R100 damage per girl at the apartments
Staircase Athlete:
~R45 per girl including cost of drinking beer at VM or BA85 and the like.
Bar Hopping Lush:
~ R120 per girl including entrance and beer at Florida, Bar 22, Club 53, and the ilk.
As a point of reference, a mix of 23 sessions across the above costed me about R3500 inclusive of my daily food and transit but not hotel. But I was eating at kilo places, pasteis, etc and not drinking much beer. Bus instead of taxi. Sleep in a bed at a VM casa for R10 per night instead of a hotel. (Just kidding about the bed, but the resident girls at Florida do sleep in fuck beds)[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Let's assume I'll be on the ground for 7 days. My budget will look something like this:
4 X 4: 5 Days, 7 garotas: 7 X 220 = 1540
Drinks, food: 375
Other spots: 10 garotas: 10 X 100 = 1000
Food, miscellaneous: = 350
Transportation: = 230
Total: Br = 3495[/QUOTE]
With a little rounding that’s about $300 dollars a day. Not so bad, when Help was open this was my daily budget including food, drinks and girls. Now that Help is closed I have a new penchant which is swing clubs in Rio so my budget has increased to about $400 a day. This is an average because the clubs are not open everyday, so when the club is open I can go to a nice restaurant with my date, entrance to the swing club and expensive drinks and escort fee can cost $600 or more for the day. Then other days I may just spend $100 or $200 with low activity.
I have a trip coming up soon, going down on a TAM nonstop, leaves JFK 6:15 PM arrives Rio 5:30 AM. This gives my first day plenty of time to get things going, gonna have a good time.
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]
However, only when with two or more gals at once, they want to see your leche at least twice so, I have to balance the frequency because I am not as young as I used to be. Getting old is a serious drag, man :D[/QUOTE]
I am feeling the pain myself but when the dollar was fetching 4 reais I was younger and getting action in the afternoon in Monte Carlo or Solarium and then doing double dips in Help at night. It was cheap and it fed my appetite. Now that I am older my appetite is less but the exchange rate is less, so it takes me less to be satisfied. That’s the silver lining.
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[QUOTE=Fred100]
When you "drooling in your oatmeal" at the old peoples home (pp quote).[/QUOTE]
That was MY quote! PP stole it from me:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=928250&postcount=2215[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=276387&postcount=228[/url]
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]That was MY quote! PP stole it from me:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=928250&postcount=2215[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=276387&postcount=228[/url][/QUOTE]
I attributed it to Euro100, see below. But now I see he used it after you, so I am correcting my citation. ;) Either way, I like the phrase. What is the copyright licensing fee?
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]To paraphrase Euro100, memories and reports that you will treasure when you are 90 and sitting in a retirement home, drooling into your oatmeal, and being able to say that you once lived what most other people only sat at home and dreamed about. Priceless, really.[/QUOTE]
Fred100, *must* you keep reminding us to show our monger cards to the normal girls we do elsewhere? We weren't born yesterday.
Voyajer, thanks for the informative response. If you can get up early enough to eat the free breakfast, much respect. Rio can make one nocturnal, due to venues not getting started until late and then closing in the wee hours.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]What is the copyright licensing fee? [/QUOTE]
Gratis, since you made the correct attribution. :D
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I think it's dependent on how you do it, of course. Let's go by style of fast foda since freerange cost varies so much. I'll estimate a little high to cover public transit costs and contingencies. Anyone agree or disagree?
Robed Rump Rooter:
~R320 damage per girl at the termas including entrance fees and a few drinks. Could escalate fast if girls are working you for drinks.
FedSEX Delivery Man:
~R100 damage per girl at the apartments
Staircase Athlete:
~R45 per girl including cost of drinking beer at VM or BA85 and the like.
Bar Hopping Lush:
~ R120 per girl including entrance and beer at Florida, Bar 22, Club 53, and the ilk.[/QUOTE]Why is it that no one ever reports on the phone booth girls for R$40? Has anyone ever tried one? I keep meaning to take one for the team but I always run out of time.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Fred100, *must* you keep reminding us to show our monger cards to the normal girls we do elsewhere? We weren't born yesterday.[/QUOTE]Shoot!! Sorry man, I didn't know the monger police made you carry a card. Mind you, I live in bunda land and some of the mongers I get to meet should be forced to wear a bell.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Why is it that no one ever reports on the phone booth girls for R$40? Has anyone ever tried one? I keep meaning to take one for the team but I always run out of time.[/QUOTE]
phone booth girls??
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1] I have to balance the frequency because I am not as young as I used to be. Getting old is a serious drag, man[/QUOTE]Yes I know how that goes. The daily batting average drops as you move up through your fifties. I have found the following works for me.
Guarana them po (pronounced "gwa ra na") available from the super market or pharmacy (the powder not the fizzy drink) seems to increase the energy levels when needed. Many of the juice shops make drinks containing Guarana them po. I carry one of those small blenders when I travel as I like to make my own.
I use the following.
5 table spoons Condensed milk (the thick sticky stuff)
1 table spoon Guarana powder
Banana and strawberries(use what fruit you like, except citrus)
Add a little water to make it more of a liquid.
Stir regularly as the Guarana sinks to the bottom.
Drink this and take one Cialis, around eleven in the morning. By three in the afternoon, should be able to smash bottles on it, the Guarana gives you the energy to use it. I was only managing twice a day. Now if I keep the booze to a minimum, I'm up to bat three sometimes four including the morning goodbye session.
Cialis is very expensive over the counter in Brazil. We all probably get crap loads of spam touting online med sales. I used RxPillsMD in the past, haven't had any problems to date with deliveries. Some of the other members may recomend an online med supplier they have been using for longer.
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Mongering economics in Rio
This post is less about mongering but about economics.
Over the last 5 years prices in Brasil went up between 5 - 10 % per year.
A couple of years ago I paid 120 Real for a hotel at Copa, today I pay 200 real for the same three-star hotel.
A Caipirinha was 4 Real, now it is 7,- etc. etc.
In general all the cost of living went up approx. 50% over the last 5 years in Brasil, the minimum salary went up also to 510 Real/month from around 230 Real.
To make things worse, the external value of the Real went from 3.20 Real/USD to 1.85 Real/USD. That means that the real prices valued in USD went up far over 100 %.
The garotas have to pay Brasilian prices and we mongers look at them and convert everything in USD or € for the services they offer.
I was recently at Balcony, at several casas in centro and at some clubs at Praca Maua.
There are hardly any foreign mongers in Rio at present time (ok - the weather is shitty) - the girls have to live of the local mongers, and they obviously survive.
With the recent oil-exploration boom business is doing well and a lot of money is flowing into Brasil. The local Johns are spending the money with both hands when they come off the oil-rigs. Nevertheless, hotels are empty, restaurants and all the tourist-traps are empty, there are almost no GDP standing at the side of the Av. Atlantica when you drive it down in the evening.
On Friday evening I was again at Balcony and discovered that I did not have enough Real with me but still had 100 Euros. I went to the cashier to change them into Real - she gave me 212 Real (at a Dolleiro I would have got 240 Real). You see how Brasilians are only interested in short-term gains. The girls sitting there looked like dogs but quoted you for ST 200 Real. I was asking them if they dream of if they have smoked some stuff.
Here are some recommendations for some non-mongering activities:
Hotel: The Sheraton at Av. Niemeyer is charging at present time 288 Real for an excellent room with breakfast.
Restaurants/entertainment:
Baby-Beef at Barra charges for Churrasco 34 Real - it is the same quality as the overpriced Porcao (85 Real)
Feira do Sao Christovao : it is a place with around 100 bars/restaurants and 2 stages with live-music from Friday to Sunday. Prices are still moderate there. A decent meal is 30 - 40 Real, a beer is 5 real and a Caiprinha is 5 - 6 real.
If you happen to travel outside of Rio, I would like to recommend the area around Rio de Oystras/Buzios. Do not go directly to Buzios, the Pousadas there are too expensive but a few miles away you get a decent room in a 3-star pousada for around 140 Real.
Now to some mongering:
I have used for years the services of Scort Show/Karla Models or the services of the Casas in Centro as I have some restrictions when I am in Rio.
Scort Show/Karla Models is charging now 120 Real + Taxi (around 20 BR) for 2 hours.
40 Graus is around 150 incl. all "ancilliary" expensens.
The casas in Centro have also increased their prices from 100/1h to around 120 BR.
In general I have the impression that the quality of the GDP went considerably down. The girls are overweight, not anymore sophisticated but favela-sluts. You can not have a conversation with them as they have non education at all.
At present time there are a lot of plans for the up-comming World-Champion-ship in 2014. They want to construct, extend and improve airports, public transport and stadiums. Until now they have not even awarded contracts to construction-companies. It will be a disaster.
The only thing they are doing at present time is repressing the mongering-tourism. That does not cost any government - money, the local police and thugs do it and exploit the girls and casas a little bit more. Where Help was - there is only a fence since 6 and nothing is done!
The question remains if Brasil is still a mongering destination. In my opinion - NO!!!
What you get here in Rio you get somewhere else in Latin America for a lot less and with less dangers. Yesterday a 11 year old boy got shot and killed in school by a stray rifle-bullet from a fire-fight police had with some gangsters in a favel. Last year a monger-brother got killed at the veranda of Balcony as well by a stray bullet.
I like Brasil and I had very good times here for many years. These good times will not come back and I honestly recommend that my brothers go to greener pastures in Central America.
Carlos Primeros
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[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]
I like Brasil and I had very good times here for many years. These good times will not come back and I honestly recommend that my brothers go to greener pastures in Central America.
Carlos Primeros[/QUOTE]
Carlos makes an excellent point. I love Brazil and have been there two times (soon to be three) but the prices can be a bit extreme. After pricing Montreal against Brazil I have discovered that I can spend about the same amount of money going to Montreal as opposed to Brazil. Of course this is not the case if I were to frequent some of the cheaper casas in Brazil as I am referring to mainly the higher end termas.
Carlos, which destinations in Central America do you speak of which have better pricing? I have heard that central America can be quite expensive as well.
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Other destinations:
How about Peru and the like???
Carlos
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Domestic Inflation, Mongering Destination no more
[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]This post is less about mongering but about economics.
Over the last 5 years prices in Brasil went up between 5 - 10 % per year.
A couple of years ago I paid 120 Real for a hotel at Copa, today I pay 200 real for the same three-star hotel.
A Caipirinha was 4 Real, now it is 7,- etc. etc.
In general all the cost of living went up approx. 50% over the last 5 years in Brasil, the minimum salary went up also to 510 Real/month from around 230 Real.
Carlos Primeros[/QUOTE]
My greatest concern for Brazil, which I have voiced several times in the Real Thread, is domestic inflation. Although the minimum wage is now R$510 a month with the price of food, housing, etc. spiraling out of control how can the average working person afford to live?
As for Rio no longer being a mongering destination, I know guys who used to come to Rio 3-4 times a year and are now coming once. They also used to do two hour long sessions in the termas but now have cut that back to one forty minute one if they session at all. As Carlos points out, it is all about the combination of domestic Brazil inflation with a strong Real.
I still contend that Help gave both the girls and the guys the illusion that they were on a date. Balcony does not offer that illusion. The girls are prostitutes pure and simple and some of them did not like the feel of that and have left the business. In the old days many of the termas girls would never go to Help because it was beneath them. They liked the fact that guys came to the termas to see them and also the safety.
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Minimum salary
Nobody can survive on a minimum salary. The house-girl of my GF in Niteroi works only for 2 minimum salaries (1020 BR) - her husband is in the police and makes another 1450 BR. With this money they can afford a two-bedroom appartment, an old VW - Gol and can send their son to school. Ocassionlally a beer at a barraca but nothing more.
At least there are no people hungry anymore - as it was 10 years ago.
Carlos
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Brazil is overrated
Why on earth would mongers waste money on brazil is beyond me, specially now. To each his own of course, but, when you have countries like Germany, Thailand, Philippines. Brazil frails in comparison, pricewise, safteywise, and sightseeing-wise. Sure the brazillian putas with their big asses, but, you have brazillians in Germany / Portugal / Spain, and pretty much anywhere in west europe.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Why is it that no one ever reports on the phone booth girls for R$40? Has anyone ever tried one? I keep meaning to take one for the team but I always run out of time.[/QUOTE]If you do, you'd better know how to read Portuguese. Most of the ads I see in the orelhões are for travestis. Avoid anything that says "boneca", to begin with.
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]phone booth girls??[/QUOTE]Yeah. The hookers that post their personal ads on the inside of the orelhao. And they must put them up with contact cement because they are hell to remove.
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[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]This post is less about mongering but about economics.
Over the last 5 years prices in Brasil went up between 5 - 10 % per year.
In general I have the impression that the quality of the GDP went considerably down. The girls are overweight, not anymore sophisticated but favela-sluts. You can not have a conversation with them as they have non education at all.
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Carlos, nice report.
You have some points. I started mongering Brasil 5 years ago, but in Sao Paulo not Rio. Then, I could get an hour in the SP whiskerias for about 40% less than todays equivalents in Rio. The girls were pretty, all holes, CIM, and even a little kinky with the extras. They'd even go back to the hotel for TLN before the end of shift and stay into the afternoon, because they had no where else to sleep except at the brothel and no money to do anything with. Girls were poor and were still working guys for marriage/immigration at that time. I knew how Cabral must have felt. Much different now, prices are higher, most girls are out-and-out prostitutes who don't even try for anything more than ST, and it's just not a pure mongering destination.
I don't agree about the girls being generally overweight. There are more overweight ones than you would expect, but generally speaking the girls who work in casas, bars, termas are height/weight proportionate. What I would say, is that the GDP faces are usually just average and the age of the girls has to the highest of any 'sex town' in the world. Whether it's at the termas, or at casas, or at bars, many of the girls are 23+. It's fine by me, because I like seasoned pros, but in some other developing countries the house talent is usually fresh off the farm 18-21, sometimes with forced retirement at 21.
So which of you is sponsoring all of the college-age ones and keeping them off the market? I am suspecting that It Travel has them all sequestered in his hotel suite doing anal plug experiments. :)
I was shocked by the age of several of the girls in 4x4 when I went there this month. I had to try to shake an English speaking loira cougar of about 38 anos, I suppose. Nice body, but at that price I can't do it. I did end up fucking a garota that was 36 at another place, and felt bad about paying to session one that was older than me..but she was a beauty and didn't look as old as she said, and had a real personality, so I went for it. It turned out to be a great experience. I'm slowly learning to shy away from the few young stunners if I want excellent service in Rio. Those girls never give me the memorable sessions.
So I agree, it's not what it was. Especially not on the weekends. But I don't think I'd desert it just yet. BsAs or Asuncion were looking like alternatives to me last time, but in Rio you can still find what you want at a reasonable price if you look enough, and the girls work hard to please (not mechanical and really want you to pop), transport is easy, and the culture is interesting so it doesn't suck yet. It's just not what it used to be. I think eventually it will fall back to 2005 costs. There is a lot of foreign investment based on the idea that Rio will step up and become a global city, but they make themselves hard to trade with, are too laid-back to compete, and don't educate their people like emerging SEA countries do, so I think they'll be surpassed by the tigers and investors will pull out, causing it to become mongers paradise once more.
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Rikkit2 Day 1 and 2 adventures
Day 1 and 2
Uneventful flight into GIG. I used the official Bubba Boy trick to go to the thrid floor, hit the ATM, and exit on the departures level to catch a cab into Copa at half price. Once I was settled into the apartment, I was off on a "stock the reefer" mission, then off exploring the town in the rain. I blew off a tour of Centro – too tired, too wet to want that much of an adventure. Went to L'uomo's at 4:30 and checked out the current talent. Surprisingly, the Brazilian contingent was the largest on Friday, and well represented on Saturday. Last year tourists dominated the clientele. The ratio of girls to guys shifted radically throughout the afternoon and evening, with the girls there in force by 7 PM. Quality remains solid – no fuglies, and most that weren't my type were still quite do-able.
Session 1 – Tatiana, 20, pretty face, decent body, some English. She was animated and affectionate, and once in the room did not stay "on the program", but. I wouldn't call it a GFE. She is proud of those titties. With no kids and good genes, there is no sag in those natural C's. She was decent all the way around, and it was fun to watch her try valiantly to get a BR tourniquet, er, condom on me. She gave up on condom #3 and just handed it over to me. DATY until she came (earning me the first sofado of the trip), then doggie, then BBBJ until finished. The 40 minute session seemed to go by very quickly, and she drew the session out for a few minutes to let me finish. Sorry guys, no picture – she was camera shy.
Session 2 – Suzy, 24, cute face, rocking body, no English. The woman can dance, which is always a good sign. We didn't kiss and fool around in the bar, we had a full scale make-out session. This was a GFE experience that the GFE lovers would all appreciate, and we hadn't even sessioned yet. She was not in a rush to go back to the cabine. We finally did go back, and it was a truly wonderful experience. We 69ed for awhile, then marched through a series of positions where she had more fun than I did – yup, she was into it. She really liked frottage, pretty much went crazy at that point, coming several times. She finished me off BBBJ with enthusiasm and technique. After we both showered, we continued our make out session in a public forum. She was in no hurry, but finally drifted off in search of a new customer after 30 minutes. Before we parted, we agreed to a date on Sunday.
Of note, L'uomo's is very CC friendly, with no surcharge at all. This definitely saves on the trips to the ATM.
Day 2 was marked by continued rain almost all day and into the night. I explored, gave myself a refresher course in Portuguese, and then ended back at L'uomo's. Hey, they had free food, and it was pretty good. And I was interested in seeing if Ingrid, Peitra, Ane, or Bia showed up.
Session 1 – Suzy was there on minute one, and pounced on me. I am happy with quality repeats. She was more laid back on the dancing front, just as into it on the making out front. Our session was superb, with the focus again on experimenting on how to best get her off. I rarely come twice in an hour, but she provided a superb BBBJCIM to get me across the finish line twice in the final 10 minutes. Then back to the bar for more snuggling.
Session 2.. Then Ingrid joined us. As usual, she has a legion of patrons that favor her, but Ingrid popped free later in the evening and joined us for a drink. After two sessions, Suzy, was already getting a bit territorial, but she gets along well with Ingrid, and was willing to share. So the three of us went back together for a 40 minute session. It actually worked out pretty well, trading off between girl focal points. Neither girl was "into" girls, but the extra set of hands and lips worked well with both girls staying above the waistline. I didn't really choreograph much other than the switches. We just kinda rolled around, with me keeping the girls focused on one another. At the beginning, we stayed focused on Ingrid until she came. Both girls were relaxed and comfortable, and pretty playful with one another. My favorite part was anal spooning with Ingrid while making out with Suzy. I let them double-team BBBJ at the end, with my parting shot coming after Suzy slid up to kiss me.
It was 11:30, and a bunch of girls bolted for the door. I too departed after hanging out (Ingrid)/making out (Suzy) with the two girls in the bar. Next stop – Bar 22, at the corner of Siqueira Campos and Domingos Ferarria. Of note, the door opens onto Domingos Ferreira. I'll have to snap a picture to help the newbies find it. Alas, it closed at midnight. Supposedly there is a very similar club somewhere closer to the south end of the beach, Club 53. I'll go looking later in the week. I hoofed it over to the Balcony Bar. Guys, this place is scary. Some locals, some GDPs, and a whole lot of fuglies. Even a few TVs for those so inclined. Learn some Portuguese – your options open up nicely, and at Balcony, you'll need options. Oh, and if you spot a woman worth the effort, pounce. The keepers were pulled out of circulation at a fast clip. The fuglies just kept perched on their stools, hoping that men would put on their beer goggles and get interested. I flirted, but didn't take anyone home; I needed to conserve energy for Sunday's date. I hope to have better luck later in the trip and relook Balcony's talent pool. But for now, it gets an "F", with Angel Discotheque in Bangkok and the Blue Marlin in San Jose being the gold standards for eye candy conveniently on display for mongering enjoyment.
More tomorrow, pics uploaded to the photo gallery.
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Not As Pictured
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Yeah. The hookers that post their personal ads on the inside of the orelhao. And they must put them up with contact cement because they are hell to remove.[/QUOTE]
My limited experience with those phone booth ads is that they are not the girls in the picture. Hell, it is not even the girls in the pictures putting up the ads but a paid lacky.
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Inbox full
Puta Playa can you clear yer inbox abit, tried sending you a pm.
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This is my first trip to Brazil and Rio de Janeiro.
I followed advice from the board (thank you all) and so far no problems.
I got a 10-year, multiple entry business visa at the NYC consulate, it was a 4-day wait, I overheard someone asking the consular officials for some help because his travel plans changed, they seemed very helpful, so any Brazilian ideas of true reciprocity are failing, because they will never be able to match the U.S. visa process for anal-retentiveness and level of idiocy. Also as U.S. citizen you do not pay any extra for the business visa. They only glanced at my itinerary, then returned it, so I am guessing it is probably possible to get a visa with a doctored itinerary if you do not want to purchase the ticket first.
I followed advice in Bubba guide and once I arrived at GIG I went upstairs two floors to arrivals caught a yellow cab, it was R$40 to the hotel Mirador in Copa. Just for curiositty, I checked the pre-paid taxi stands that you see as you exit customs, they wanted $R90 so do not use the prepaid. I changed US$100 at the airport got like R$155.77, exchage rate 1.66, minus fee R$9.60. Later I got a withdrawal from an atm, fee was R$10.00 which my bank may later reimburse, exchange rate 1.77, so FYI, atm is a better deal.
I am staying at the Mirador, I booked it through Ipacom, US$90 a night before taxes, so roughly US$100/night total.
There is a seperate $R30/day charge for wireless internet. I called the reception and told them that I thought the service was free. After one or two exchanges, me not even really pushing, the receptionist said fine Mr. Wood we will not charge you. We will see in a few more days whether I am charged or not.
The room is supposed to be a double bed, they actually pushed two singles together and covered them with one blanket. So when I first came in the room, the bed looked like an aircraft carrier deck it was so broad, but there was this curious expanse of empty floor, like a little dancefloor, in front of it. Odd I thought but I banged my love for the night on it without either of us even noticing it was two beds pushed together. It was only later, when she left to go feed her cat or something, and was under the sheets I noticed I had been short-sheeted because my toes poked out, I put my hand down felt half the bed move when I flopped around but other half was level then I felt around it felt like the bed had an ass crack. But I give hotel an A+ for trying, and, in retrospect, each of the two beds is decent sized and sheeted together provide an expansive and stable fucking platform, just when you pull back blankets the illusion is dispelled.
I had an afternoon snack at a pasteis, llike R$1.75 for some ham-cheese sandwich deal, dinner with my "aunt" was R$35 for one pizza for two (we could not eat all of it) including two tulipas of choppe for me and one for her. Breakfast is included in room.
Well as some may recall, I was to meet a freebie, she was older than I had hoped just the wrong side of 40, her body type was well preserved just a little on the round side, as in big bunda, not jelly-roll fat, solid, just larger than ideal for me, although probably quite pleasing to the darker demographic, tits not small but not large, not floppy but nor firm, but we went out for a little dinner attracted all types of stares because I get the feeling that I am phenotypically quite attractive to even high-class white women in Brazil, and I look young for my age, so it probably looked like I was dating the maid dating way below my station on the other hand she does not look at all like a pro. I felt just a little embarrassed bringing her back to the room, but thetwo tulipas of choppe was enough to overcome this momentary discomfort. Incidentally, Mirador did not ask her to register, even though it was about 10 pm at night. Maybe they thought I was escorting my curiously dark "aunt" back to her room. They looked away as I came in with her and avoided eye contact as we made a beeline for the elevator. Maybe they did not want to see a valued customer shaming himself and their fine hotel in this way.
Well, she was definitely happy with the arrangement, she had appeared in jeans and parka (it is like 70 degrees here and many people are wearing ski gear) but changed into a dress that contained everything nicely, shit another choppe or three she might have looked hot.
She had a few hairs on legs and disturbingly one or two long curlies around nipples, but not hairy enough to shave I guess, and all together she felt good very well lubricated all juiced up, but very tight, and when I rolled her over for lazy dog finish the bunda was just right quite satisfying to dump my load in to her sim caminsah (is that how you say it?).
Then she had to go home feed her cat or some b.s. but this frees me up to go find some younger whiter tighter ass, I see her again tomorrow, so yes a little bit of a walk of shame, but maybe tonight I can bring something home to restore my reputation with the hotel staff.
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[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]Well as some may recall, I was to meet a freebie, she was older than I had hoped just the wrong side of 40, her body type was well preserved just a little on the round side, as in big bunda, not jelly-roll fat, solid, just larger than ideal for me, although probably quite pleasing to the darker demographic, tits not small but not large, not floppy but nor firm, but we went out for a little dinner attracted all types of stares because I get the feeling that I am phenotypically quite attractive to even high-class white women in Brazil, and I look young for my age, so it probably looked like I was dating the maid dating way below my station on the other hand she does not look at all like a pro. I felt just a little embarrassed bringing her back to the room, but thetwo tulipas of choppe was enough to overcome this momentary discomfort. Incidentally, Mirador did not ask her to register, even though it was about 10 pm at night. Maybe they thought I was escorting my curiously dark "aunt" back to her room. They looked away as I came in with her and avoided eye contact as we made a beeline for the elevator. Maybe they did not want to see a valued customer shaming himself and their fine hotel in this way.
Well, she was definitely happy with the arrangement, she had appeared in jeans and parka (it is like 70 degrees here and many people are wearing ski gear) but changed into a dress that contained everything nicely, shit another choppe or three she might have looked hot.
She had a few hairs on legs and disturbingly one or two long curlies around nipples, but not hairy enough to shave I guess, and all together she felt good very well lubricated all juiced up, but very tight, and when I rolled her over for lazy dog finish the bunda was just right quite satisfying to dump my load in to her sim caminsah (is that how you say it?).
Then she had to go home feed her cat or some b.s. but this frees me up to go find some younger whiter tighter ass, I see her again tomorrow, so yes a little bit of a walk of shame, but maybe tonight I can bring something home to restore my reputation with the hotel staff.[/QUOTE]Cj,
I think you might find the MILF experiences could possibly be the most gratifying. I've stopped visiting the TERMAS (too many turn offs). Tend to stay with old favorites, most by monger standards would fall into the MILF category. Spend the money I save on better accommodation.
I have no Idea where the following statement comes from. So don't waste time responding to it. "In terms of age, you stand more chance of sexual compatibility if the female is NO younger than half your age plus 7 years".
Wouldn't dwell too much on what the hotel staff think of your activities.
I drive all over Brazil for work and pleasure. Small town Brazil is perfect for hooking up with sexy older women (this is easier for me, as a lot of the time I am introduced into the social by local work contacts). I wouldn't recommend the average sex tourist to just take off and do this, you do need good Portuguese and not to stand out too much.
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Bar 22 location pic
[QUOTE=Rikkit2]
Next stop – Bar 22, at the corner of Siqueira Campos and Domingos Ferarria. Of note, the door opens onto Domingos Ferreira. I'll have to snap a picture to help the newbies find it. Alas, it closed at midnight.[/QUOTE]
A pic is attached. I was standing across Siqueria Campos just north of the place, beside the park, so this is what it would look like if someone was coming from the direction of SC metro station.
Yes, the girls starting leaving at about 11:30-midnight and it's closed on Sunday. Glad to hear you are having a good time...now I'm off to buy more L'uomo stock. :)
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Thanks to Rikkit who showed me around today, showed me L'uomo, 22, Monte Carlo, Balcony, and just about everything there is in the general AO.
Rikkit took me to L'uomo last, I had a very satisfying session with Marcella (I think) maybe Mansella it's a little hard for me to remember the names. It seemed the lighter girls, especially the white ones, were not going to run over and jump on me, but some of the darker ones did, especially this girl named Manuela, but I wanted a visual fuck, well, visual to me is a white girl with big tits, but for personality Manuela was probably better. We sucked face a little and very nice, it was also appealing that she really seemed into me, more than Ingrid or Marcella/Mansella or the other girls there, except perhaps this other little black girl whose name escapes me. I would have taken either of them in a heartbeat if they were freebies, but I had my mind set on what I wanted to purchase and it wasn't them. Oh, well, maybe next time. So I wound up going with Marcella/Mansella instead, better looking to me and with nice perky tits. Ingrid was very nice but she didn't sit down with me like Manuela did, and I kind of lost track of her, then Marcella/Mansella came in and decided on her. There were some other really white girls, but one had no tits, and I did not see the one with big tits until too late, and they did not seem as friendly as the other girls.
It was making out in the main area with her, then off to the room for the races, very nice BBBJ, one of best I think, absolutely no teeth, she did not dig her elbows into my thighs, really quite nice. She started to unroll one of the local jimmies, decided it would not fit, but fortunately Rikkit had "lent" me a magnum so we pulled that out, and proceeded. Rolled her over first for some lazy dog with leg cocked up while I played with those perky nipples. I then rolled her back over because I wanted to come sucking face or sucking a tit, as she had a very perky set. The bed was a little cramped and I could hear her knee banging the wall as I was laying pipe but she didn't seem to mind.
Surprisingly she is 26 years old, I thought she was a little younger. She says she was studying law, which explains why she is such a great cocksucker lol. Well she was very nice, afterwards we talked about music and about social conditions in Brazil and the U.S. about all types of stuff while sucking more face.
Interestingly, she had a few curlies around her nipples also. I guess it happens often enough in the U.S. also. Just seems to stick out more in my mind here. She also had nice little curly hair on her ass, although her legs were very smooth. And soft hands, great lips, flat belly and did I mention perky tits?
Termas are great for a sure deal, although at R$270 for a session it is a little steep. I called a bunch of escorts earlier today, it always went to their message, so I emailed a half dozen, of which two replied while I was at L'uomo, I will maybe try to hook up with one of them.
I am also especially interested in going back to Balcony, I saw two girls there who were doable, one gave me the look, perhaps it is more adventurous than L'Uomo, definitely cheaper. And I need to go to Centro with Rikkit to check out termas there. And of course I have the freebie tomorrow morning wow turning out to be quite the social calendar.
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Luomo's Manuela
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]Thanks to Rikkit who showed me around today, showed me L'uomo, 22, Monte Carlo, Balcony, and just about everything there is in the general AO.
Rikkit took me to L'uomo last, I had a very satisfying session with Marcella (I think) maybe Mansella it's a little hard for me to remember the names. It seemed the lighter girls, especially the white ones, were not going to run over and jump on me, but some of the darker ones did, especially this girl named Manuela, but I wanted a visual fuck, well, visual to me is a white girl with big tits, but for personality Manuela was probably better. We sucked face a little and very nice, it was also appealing that she really seemed into me, more than Ingrid or Marcella/Mansella or the other girls there, except perhaps this other little black girl whose name escapes me. I would have taken either of them in a heartbeat if they were freebies, but I had my mind set on what I wanted to purchase and it wasn't them. Oh, well, maybe next time. So I wound up going with Marcella/Mansella instead, better looking to me and with nice perky tits. Ingrid was very nice but she didn't sit down with me like Manuela did, and I kind of lost track of her, then Marcella/Mansella came in and decided on her. There were some other really white girls, but one had no tits, and I did not see the one with big tits until too late, and they did not seem as friendly as the other girls.
It was making out in the main area with her, then off to the room for the races, very nice BBBJ, one of best I think, absolutely no teeth, she did not dig her elbows into my thighs, really quite nice. She started to unroll one of the local jimmies, decided it would not fit, but fortunately Rikkit had "lent" me a magnum so we pulled that out, and proceeded. Rolled her over first for some lazy dog with leg cocked up while I played with those perky nipples. I then rolled her back over because I wanted to come sucking face or sucking a tit, as she had a very perky set. The bed was a little cramped and I could hear her knee banging the wall as I was laying pipe but she didn't seem to mind.
Surprisingly she is 26 years old, I thought she was a little younger. She says she was studying law, which explains why she is such a great cocksucker lol. Well she was very nice, afterwards we talked about music and about social conditions in Brazil and the U.S. about all types of stuff while sucking more face.
Interestingly, she had a few curlies around her nipples also. I guess it happens often enough in the U.S. also. Just seems to stick out more in my mind here. She also had nice little curly hair on her ass, although her legs were very smooth. And soft hands, great lips, flat belly and did I mention perky tits?
Termas are great for a sure deal, although at R$270 for a session it is a little steep. I called a bunch of escorts earlier today, it always went to their message, so I emailed a half dozen, of which two replied while I was at L'uomo, I will maybe try to hook up with one of them.
I am also especially interested in going back to Balcony, I saw two girls there who were doable, one gave me the look, perhaps it is more adventurous than L'Uomo, definitely cheaper. And I need to go to Centro with Rikkit to check out termas there. And of course I have the freebie tomorrow morning wow turning out to be quite the social calendar.
CJW[/QUOTE]
Manuela makes out with everyone and is known for being aggresive. She speaks english extremely well. She reads and writes english as well. A friend of mine's had an unsual situation with her outside the club a few weeks ago. Not going to get into it, but just becareful if she suggests he guys meet outside the club. She is not trustworthy.....no matter how much she deep she swallows your tongue or makes you feel like she is really into you.
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Puta Playa
Thank you for your view of things.
I think when the World Cup in Rio is over (and it will certainly turn into a disaster) and when the Real drops to an economically realistic exchange-rate then Brasil will turn back to be a mongers paradise. Before that - beware!!!
Speaking of overweight girls - the girls in the Termas are certainly to cream of the crop, I am talking of the everage puta. Yesterday night I was at Balcony. It was like the Muppet Show. Terrible and overpriced. Asking for 200 Real ST - "Sorry my dear - I only want to rent your pussy and I do not want to buy it" - that was my answer. I would not even take these favela-sluts to my hotel. I would take them to a Motel close by out of fear that they would start a scandal in the hotel in order to squeeze some more money out of you.
VM is not my sort of things but in Balcony the quality of girls are getting below VM. The casas in Centro are a far better deal.
Most of my time I live in Europe with monthly trips to SEA and Africa. The Thai and Chinese are not my thing but there are so many oprtions in the world and Brasil has priced itself out of the league. I can get in Lisbon, Madrid and Germany top girls (solid 8 -9) for 50 - 100 Euros without all the hazzle and travel-expenses. Hotels, restaurants and bars in Europe are cheaper and better.
Go to Africa - I am often in Nigeria, Mozambique and Kenia. There girls are happy if you pay them a decent meal, that they can have a clean shower and sleep in an air-condtioned room, and if you give them some "Taxi-money" they are over the moon. Let us use these alternatives until Brasil has returned to the real world.
These are my 2 Centavos.
Carlos
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[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]Most of my time I live in Europe with monthly trips to SEA and Africa. The Thai and Chinese are not my thing but there are so many oprtions in the world and Brasil has priced itself out of the league. I can get in Lisbon, Madrid and Germany top girls (solid 8 -9) for 50 - 100 Euros without all the hazzle and travel-expenses. Hotels, restaurants and bars in Europe are cheaper and better.
Got to Africa - I am often in Nigeria, Mozambique and Kenia. There girls are happy if you pay the a decent meal, that they can have a clean shower and sleep in an air-condtioned room, and if you give them some "Taxi-money" they are over the moon. Let us use these alternatives until Brasil has returned to the real world.
These are my 2 Centavos.
Carlos[/QUOTE]+1. Don't forget Central Asia though.
As a veteran mongerer of Brasil, Eastern Europe, and Indonesia, I can state that Uzbekistan is now my favorite place thus far. The women there are incredibly diverse -blond Slavs, Persians, Central Asians, Caucasians (Georgians, Armenians, etc), Tartars, and just about everything in between. The ethnicities and the mixtures in Uzbekistan are truly exotic, and the variety and beauty of the women in Tashkent is unparalleled.
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[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]Got to Africa[/QUOTE]Have you also been to Mali CP ?
I've been told that Bamako was the new "party place" in West Africa. Furthermore, malian girls are really something to behold. Any thoughts ?
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Rikkit Day 3
suzy was late late late over to my apartment, but a freebie is a freebie. she didn't go to work promptly at 3 pm either - it was a nice session. (laughing) and if she doesn't shave before we session again, i am pinning her down and shaving her. death by stubble burn is truly a horrible thing.
we talked via google translate, which works pretty well for those gdps that can type. and having her prancing around topless in the apartment is always a fun experience. i won her heart with chocolate - some for her, some for her friends at l'uomo so that she "gains face" w/ her peers. to some girls this seems important. with suzy, she just seemed to chalk it up to serendipity and handed out the candy.
then i met up with crazy jim wood, wandered the city. ended up at l'uomo's, sessioning w/ ingrid and suzy separately. both are delightful experiences. ingrid will gfe; it was quite different than the first session i had with her. ymmv. tatiana was not there - she'd be the best suited to what crazy jim was looking for, but i don't think we'll be back in l'uomo's any time soon.
no repeats tomorrow - 4x4 here i come! but i'll be back for ingrid on fri/sat/sun and hope to see suzy every day until she/i tire of it.
i punched out at 11 pm, off for balcony, and yes, the scene was improved from the rainy saturday crowd. there were still flocks of fuglies, but probably 5 do-able.
what-ho? do my eyes see innocence in the crowd? talked with fernanda, who supposedly is on the gdp for one day. she is obviously uncomfortable with her role and the balcony scene. she speaks english (good) and spanish (excellent). and she is a looker. rail thin, natural c's, can't give you any more details... because she was pricing herself off the market, for me anyways. she wanted r400 for massage, session, sleep, session and gone in the late pm. i really don't have a problem with the r400 price, but for a test drive, it sucks. i'd rather go escort fishing twice, see what i catch. sigh, it was not meant to be.
suzy is inbound in 12 hours, so it is time to head back and crash.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]+1. Don't forget Central Asia though.
As a veteran mongerer of Brasil, Eastern Europe, and Indonesia, I can state that Uzbekistan is now my favorite place thus far. The women there are incredibly diverse -blond Slavs, Persians, Central Asians, Caucasians (Georgians, Armenians, etc), Tartars, and just about everything in between. The ethnicities and the mixtures in Uzbekistan are truly exotic, and the variety and beauty of the women in Tashkent is unparalleled.[/QUOTE]
And don't forget Turkministan.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Have you also been to Mali CP ?
I've been told that Bamako was the new "party place" in West Africa. Furthermore, malian girls are really something to behold. Any thoughts ?[/QUOTE]Gabon and Ghana are worth a visit. Ghanaian people have the best attitude of all the West Africans. I spent more time in Gabon had an amazing time. Stupidly got involved with one of our house girls. Don't regret a thing she was amazing. Reasonable french will help in Gabon. Forget Nigeria unless your pals with some hot shot with a big house on Ikoyi Island. Us “awibo” get a lot of hassle in Nigeria. Still a night out at the beachcomber club is a bit of fun if you happen to be in Lagos.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]And don't forget Turkministan.[/QUOTE]Haven't visited Ashgabat for about 10 years but most of the hotels have interesting room service. I wouldn't make a special trip, but I did have an interesting visit. I was there when it got out that the prick of a son of Turkminbashi lost a few million dollars in a casino in a single night. When people in the Cheleken region were starving.
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Naaaaah.
Seriously, you should consider Nuuk (Godthåb) as the best mongering destination in the world!
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[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Naaaaah.
Seriously, you should consider Nuuk (Godthåb) as the best mongering destination in the world![/QUOTE]You are so clueless.
PS : SHD, Turkmenistan isn't bad indeed, if you like curvaceous Persian beauties. Plus, unlike in Rio, no chances there to meet Tyron from the ghetto or Billy Joe from the trailer park, which is a big plus.
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Buy one get one free?
[QUOTE=Rikkit2]
Then I met up with Crazy Jim Wood, wandered the city. Ended up at L'uomo's, sessioning w/ Ingrid and Suzy separately. Both are delightful experiences. Ingrid will GFE; it was quite different than the first session I had with her. YMMV. Tatiana was not there - she'd be the best suited to what Crazy Jim was looking for, but I don't think we'll be back in L'uomo's any time soon.
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Did she make you pay in L'uomo that night after you'd already had for free earlier in the day? Either way, it's an accomplishment to pull a freebie if you can't communicate with her verbally, as you indicated, only by Google Translate. Job well done.
Instead of being disappointed at Balcony, perhaps you'd be better served by taking the 455 bus to VM and see if you find something you like.
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RE : Africa
[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]Go to Africa - I am often in Nigeria, Mozambique and Kenia. There girls are happy if you pay them a decent meal, that they can have a clean shower and sleep in an air-condtioned room, and if you give them some "Taxi-money" they are over the moon. Let us use these alternatives until Brasil has returned to the real world.[/QUOTE]For who dares to venture beyond the frontiers of mass prostitution and is into blood-mixed African girls, I'd also add Cap Verde. Especially Sao Vicente, which is the "in" party place to be, and where many girls are outrageously hot.
In this respect (blood mixes), Madagascar is also awesome.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]For who dares to venture beyond the frontiers of mass prostitution and is into blood-mixed African girls, I'd also add Cap Verde. Especially Sao Vicente, which is the "in" party place to be, and where many girls are outrageously hot.
In this respect (blood mixes), Madagascar is also awesome.[/QUOTE]Strongly recommend Douala in the Cameroon. Stunning women and great food.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Instead of being disappointed at Balcony, perhaps you'd be better served by taking the 455 bus to VM and see if you find something you like.[/QUOTE]
Balcony had a number of doable girls, including Karla from Buenos Aires, very hot, Maria from Brazilia I think, a Julia and a Juliana, a few others... I would say easily 10 doable girls. There were even more I would have taken with beer gogglles or a hefty discount, but I am not as discerning as Rikkit who has more refined taste.
I only asked price once, it was R$200 (she said R$300 but immediately dropped to 200).
Of course, it was not like 4x4 where you can see a huge parade in bikinis (or less) and swap spit and pick exactly what you want. But Balcony is definitely worth the trip. It seemed like it would be more of an adventure than 4x4, no telling if the date might end in drama or not, 4x4 is shooting fish in a barrel.
However, I was fucked out after one freebie and two girls at 4x4 so I did not partake at Balcony.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]You are so clueless.
PS : SHD, Turkmenistan isn't bad indeed, if you like curvaceous Persian beauties. Plus, unlike in Rio, no chances there to meet Tyron from the ghetto or Billy Joe from the trailer park, which is a big plus.[/QUOTE]
I was 100% serious. Also, the Russians were there for the last 60 years (?) so they also have a great mix of all types. Don't know that I would recommend as a "destination", but if you are already there, or you know these places well, it can be spectacular. But, of course, it is missing Ipanema...
Ashgebat has this hotel with an all night disco. Don't remember the name. The only place I know of in the world where you can wake up with jet lag at 04:00 and go downstairs and find some great diversion to relieve your jet lag!
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]I was 100% serious. Also, the Russians were there for the last 60 years (?) so they also have a great mix of all types.[/QUOTE]SHD, my "clueless" remark wasn't oriented to you, but to SG, who sillily ironized about "new frontiers" mongering destinations.
That being said, you are totally right, the number of Russian-ethnic population in Ashgebat is surely significant. Less than in Uzbekistan though, where there has been MASSIVE relocations by Stalin from West Russia, Poland and Caucasus during Soviet period (and especially during WW2). Consequently, Tashkent is undoubtedly the place in Stans with the most important Russian-ethnic population. You especially notice that in the cosmopolitan bowels, where blue eyed-blond haired Natashas and Tatianas are rather common. Anyway, what makes Uzbekistan great is the variety of looks. The result of several generations of mixing between Persians, Russians, Turks, Tatars, Koreans, Poles and other indistinct ethnicities.
In this respect, Caucasus (Georgia, Armenia) is also great. The demographics are incredibly diverse and historically it has been home to peoples from many different cultures, religions and ethnicities. It's a fascinating region indeed, that I recommend to any "pioneer" monger to visit.
Many people think that all FSU women are livid white-pale clones of Putin. They are deadly wrong. The reason why the women are that beautiful in this part of the world is the mixing of the 250 distinct ethnic groups that composed the Soïouz Sovietskikh Sotsialistitcheskik Respoublik (1/6 of earth) and its satellites. Frankly, I really don't understand why so few mongers go to FSU. As usual, to each its own.
In fact, I'm quite happy that my little Nirvanas are still not on the "sex-tourism map", and that mongers like S. G keep on mongering in their mass-prostitution meccas and keep on ironizing on the new frontiers destinations.
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Amazing how this pro-gal keeps getting away with blantant prejudice comments.
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Rikkit2 Day 4 in Rio
Day 4
Suzy was a no-show, so the early afternoon slipped away. Joined up with CJW, metroed downtown, hit BA85 just so that he can say he was there, and he was willing to call it "good" after one floor of looking around. Personally, I agree with him. Just not my kinda scene. We motored over to a bakery for a late lunch, then into 4x4. It is as I remembered – not as laid back as L'uomo's, great selection, generally nastier girls (in a good way), and a pretty fun scene. The prices are markedly better – skip the suite, and go for 60 min for a mere R20 more than 40 minutes.
Session 1 – Boeuma, 18, Spinner Poster Girl of 2010. She is tight, well muscled, and energetic.completa. She is enthusiastic to a fault. After BBBJ, making out, and DATY, she flipped me over and applied the raincoat via BJ technique. (Laughing) and she bit the damn tip right off. No body parts were injured due to her exuberance, but we were back to a BR tourniquet. We did straight missionary and cowgirl and I came in her ass lazy doggie. Warning – DATY could be dangerous to your health. She gets off stronger with her legs closed. Your head may or may not be in the way. She was powerful enough to make pinning her down a chore, and she didn't want to be pinned down as she raced to the finish line. Three times. Oddly, she wants to be played with after she comes, and used my hand as a toy to touch her exactly as she wanted to be touched. She allowed a "g" rated pic, below, but nothing more explicit, which is a damn shame. She has a fiiiine body and nice tight ass. Was it a GFE experience? Yes, if you compare it to an 18 year old's style. I could get her cranked up to the point she was shivering and wanted to get pounded.
I had to chuckle. Boeuma knew we had gone over our hour, but I'll be damned if she didn't want to keep touching and playing. It made getting dressed an interesting experience all by itself. She also had me reshoot the pic until she had one where her bangs were perfect and she approved of the pose. Demanding little wench.
Session 2 – Alice, 23, girl next door done sexy, no pics of any kind allowed. Probably 5'9", curvy in all the right places, a natural beautiful C.completa. Face was a 8, body was an 8, and I am pretty demanding. Style-wise, we were similar; I like passive girls to my aggressive style, but thought she would be fun to play with, just to see how it worked out. This was a GFE experience. Boeuma got me to come twice in the last session, and I had almost no reload lag between sessions. I wasn't in a hurry, and that was a good thing. DATY DATY DATY – next time, I am bringing a toy. I had fun too, but we still had time so I gave her a back/bunda/leg/foot massage. (Laughing) at the end of the session she asked me to marry her. We went well over, but the last 15 minutes were talking. I hope she comes thru with a date on Wed night.
CJW and I sauntered over to Balcony, discussed monger do-ability philosophy. He was a kid in a candy store. I rated that 5 of 50 were cute, another 5 were do-able. Pick of the litter was Karla, Argentinian, nice face, nice body, definitely a GDP, but seemed to have some style about her, R200 for a short time. Damn, I was out of steam, and not packing any little blue pills. I passed, but maybe later this week if I blow off the Therma scene one night.
Tomorrow – a beach report, and Balcony-by-day.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]SHD, my "clueless" remark wasn't oriented to you, but to SG, who sillily ironized about "new frontiers" mongering destinations.
That being said, you are totally right, the number of Russian-ethnic population in Ashgebat is surely significant. Less than in Uzbekistan though, where there has been MASSIVE relocations by Stalin from West Russia, Poland and Caucasus during Soviet period (and especially during WW2). Consequently, Tashkent is undoubtedly the place in Stans with the most important Russian-ethnic population. You especially notice that in the cosmopolitan bowels, where blue eyed-blond haired Natashas and Tatianas are rather common. Anyway, what makes Uzbekistan great is the variety of looks. The result of several generations of mixing between Persians, Russians, Turks, Tatars, Koreans, Poles and other indistinct ethnicities.
In this respect, Caucasus (Georgia, Armenia) is also great. The demographics are incredibly diverse and historically it has been home to peoples from many different cultures, religions and ethnicities. It's a fascinating region indeed, that I recommend to any "pioneer" monger to visit.
Many people think that all FSU women are livid white-pale clones of Putin. They are deadly wrong. The reason why the women are that beautiful in this part of the world is the mixing of the 250 distinct ethnic groups that composed the Soïouz Sovietskikh Sotsialistitcheskik Respoublik (1/6 of earth) and its satellites. Frankly, I really don't understand why so few mongers go to FSU. As usual, to each its own.
In fact, I'm quite happy that my little Nirvanas are still not on the "sex-tourism map", and that mongers like S. G keep on mongering in their mass-prostitution meccas and keep on ironizing on the new frontiers destinations.[/QUOTE]
Before anybody starts screaming, I know this is the Brazil forum and not the place for this discussion. But, last comment from me here on this topic, I have to support on this Uzbekistan thing. I have one great memory of an Uzbek girl I found in Baku. As I said, spectacular. So, Prosal, I like Brazil but I agree with your assessment of that region. But, it is just damned hard to get there from anywhere. LOL.
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Balcony revisited
I was supposed to meet Sinche (sp?) from 4x4 today around 1 pm, but she was running late, about 2 pm I talked to her and she said let's meet after she gets off work at zero-zero-zero-zero (midnight).
It is very interesting trying to communicate in Porto. She speaks almost zero English, but somehow we worked out that she wsa running late, that it would be better to meet after work, what time, and I gave her my address.
I did not realize how much Spanish I know until I am here. It is like in DR, if you speak English loud enough and repeat often enough eventually they understand. Here, you have to say it in Spanish loud and often enough and they understand.
But there is nothing like positive reinforcement to help one learn faster.
So Rikkit and I hooked up to go to Balcony, where Rikkit insisted again that there was no one doable.
Then in walked Lily while Rikkit and I were debating doability over a beer.
I have included pictures of Lily: how many people vote for her as "doable"? Anyone say "not doable?"
For me she looks a little like this 8th grader from Germany who I had a crush on when I was in 6th grade. The freckles, blond hair, devilish eyes, big tits, etc.
So Rikkit decided to head down town for better hunting while Lily and I headed back to the Mirador.
She originall quoted 250, I laughed said 150, she said ok. So I guess I could have gone lower but I was happy.
It is amazing how much conversation we were able to have. We were able to smoke and joke for 2-3 hours, she taught me how to say all this stuff, and was over all a wonderful person. It is even more amazing probably what I didn't understand or made mistakes about but I never see that side. We had great time in la cama, I'm afraid the bed is now wrecked, I cannot get my aircraft carrier to stay together now, and there is a big wet spot, well perhaps Sinche will not notice. Better dim the lights. I was a little concerned that her dress was hiding a gut, but no, such is not the case, she was exactly what I was looking for, kind of girl-next-door (stripper-next-door) sexy/slutty with nice, NATURAL titties that were the best I have had so far in Brazil (no curlies!) but she did have a golden downy pelt all over her legs and ass, but it was nice, she had a nice landing strip, a little stubble, but her hair was soft so it did not remove my skin like some Latinas' stubble will. I took a while, she was very accomodating, she was very energetic, proactive, but took directions well, I did not ask for anal or anything, but she was a good sport for everything no complaints. We also showered together twice, did pretty much everything, I just wanted to lay there and suck on those tits for a long time she was ok with that.
A definite repeat. I wound up giving her 20 for taxi (she walked back from Balcony with me good 20 min walk, very good natured girl) she was over-joyed at the tip, so I gave her another 20 just for the hell of it. I asked if I could take pics, she said sure, posed very nicely, then I asked for topless she said only if faceless so ok.
The Mirador: definitely girl friendly
Brothers, I have to tell you Mirador should be on the monger map.
We are hop skip and jump from L'Uomo. And the place is definitely girl-friendly. I was sure they would give us a hassle when I came back with Lily, as she is obviously not belonging there, as we went to come in I could see the doormen's eyes widening like I was brining a turd into the building and they nervously conversed then opened the door, we made a beeline to the elevator, no one stopped us, they looked to shocked and horrified. First my aunt now it is trash from the beach, I wonder what they will say when Sinche comes tonight. These guys will never rent to a gringo again. We laughed when doors shut, because neither of us thought it would be that easy, she said they must have thought she was a gringa.
We get up to the room, 5 minutes later, the buzzer rings, and the doorman is their with a registration slip for her. He waits at the door while she fills it in. Then I return it to him with $R4 tip he is gone that is that.
Well I have to try again to repair the deck of my aircraft carrier before the next pussy delivery arrives.
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[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]Balcony had a number of doable girls, including Karla from Buenos Aires, very hot, Maria from Brazilia I think, a Julia and a Juliana, a few others... I would say easily 10 doable girls. There were even more I would have taken with beer gogglles or a hefty discount, but I am not as discerning as Rikkit who has more refined taste.
I only asked price once, it was R$200 (she said R$300 but immediately dropped to 200).
Of course, it was not like 4x4 where you can see a huge parade in bikinis (or less) and swap spit and pick exactly what you want. But Balcony is definitely worth the trip. It seemed like it would be more of an adventure than 4x4, no telling if the date might end in drama or not, 4x4 is shooting fish in a barrel.
However, I was fucked out after one freebie and two girls at 4x4 so I did not partake at Balcony.[/QUOTE]
Balcony has gotten some bad press here. It is highly variable, for sure, but it has stunners too. I agree with the previous statement that you need to move fast because the hot ones can get snapped up or move on fast. Truth is, a lot of the old Help crowd is still trying to figure it out/get comfortable.
Here is a dumb question. Why does everybody focus on L'uomo when talking about higher end termas? It is a nice place but I think the talent is often better at MC. Solarium too. C'mon guys, branch out. And a very small step down (if at all) there is Rio Antigo and Aerporto if you want to go downtown.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Here is a dumb question. Why does everybody focus on L'uomo when talking about higher end termas? It is a nice place but I think the talent is often better at MC. Solarium too. C'mon guys, branch out. And a very small step down (if at all) there is Rio Antigo and Aerporto if you want to go downtown.[/QUOTE]
L'Uomo is open later, I think it is open on days when 4x4 isn't, you can walk there and walk back home... there are discounts depending on how many girls you session... Rikkit has done in depth analysis and told me all of this, there are reasons. For me, it is 5 minutes away, that is one really good reason, I don't want to go downtown. Also, it is a little more laid back than 4x4. The atmosphere and the accomodations are also better. So in that aspect I liked L'Uomo better.
To me the girls also seemed different, a little classier at L'Uomo, a little more down-to-earth at 4x4. For this I liked 4x4 better.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]And a very small step down (if at all) there is Rio Antigo and Aerporto if you want to go downtown.[/QUOTE]
Wow. It has been years since I have gone to those places. Last I heard, Antigo was remodeled. What is the status of Aeroporto?
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Before anybody starts screaming, I know this is the Brazil forum and not the place for this discussion. [/QUOTE]Right, this was a parenthesis that followed the remarks of Carlos.P about Rio finished as a mongering destination and about new "out of the beaten tracks" places.
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Russian rednecks
With all the talk here about Russia check out this story, looks like they also have inbred rednecks in Russia.
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10695037[/url]
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[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]I wound up giving her 20 for taxi (she walked back from Balcony with me good 20 min walk, very good natured girl) she was over-joyed at the tip, so I gave her another 20 just for the hell of it. [/QUOTE]Oh no, don't mention you tipped a GDP here. Now you are going to catch hell from the guys here about driving up prices. Now you did it.
And my vote is: no, not doable.
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[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]L'Uomo is open later.. there are reasons. For me, it is 5 minutes away, that is one really good reason, I don't want to go downtown. [/QUOTE]
There are a lot of interesting outdoor cultural and historical things to see within a 20 minute walk of 4x4, if you are interested in going down there early and look online for the Centro walking tour information that various people have posted on the net.
In my mongering excursions there, I've seen things and learned things about Rio that some of my Carioca work colleagues haven't even heard of. So the Centro daytime option can allow you to please both both the little head and the big head, if you are interested.
Thanks for laying it all out there about the unwanted hairs on some of these girls. I thought I was the only one who noticed and found it a little repulsive. I used to be disturbed by wild Japanese bushes, but when I first came to Rio and encountered both a squiggly and a pelt independently on the same trip, Tokyo didn't seem so bad. I remember the girls in Sao Paulo being smooth, perhaps it's a Rio thing.
So, there are a lot of people out there who like to slam on EUA women and how the women in Rio/SP/etc are so much better. I think they still can learn 2 things from the EUA women. 1. Don't ask for money for sex 2. Hair only belongs on the head and landing strip.
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[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]L'Uomo is open later, I think it is open on days when 4x4 isn't, you can walk there and walk back home... there are discounts depending on how many girls you session... Rikkit has done in depth analysis and told me all of this, there are reasons. For me, it is 5 minutes away, that is one really good reason, I don't want to go downtown. Also, it is a little more laid back than 4x4. The atmosphere and the accomodations are also better. So in that aspect I liked L'Uomo better.
To me the girls also seemed different, a little classier at L'Uomo, a little more down-to-earth at 4x4. For this I liked 4x4 better.[/QUOTE]
You guys do what you want, but MC is in Copa Cabana and if you are 5 minutes from L'uomo, you are probably even closer to MC. Pricing and hours similar, different discounting schemes. Similar ambiance but different.
Very different from 4X4. I omly mntioned the other two since you were going to centro.
Enjoy.
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[QUOTE=Amerioca]Wow. It has been years since I have gone to those places. Last I heard, Antigo was remodeled. What is the status of Aeroporto?[/QUOTE]
aeroporto is still th same. Not cheap, daytime venue. Antigo, don't know about remodeling. They went through some difficulties after the cops raided and closed them down. Last time I was there it was good. There have always been some stunners. Not many gringos. It is on my short list now. (It has been on the list for a long time, but I have been busy).
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[QUOTE=Amerioca]Wow. It has been years since I have gone to those places. Last I heard, Antigo was remodeled. What is the status of Aeroporto?[/QUOTE]
One more thing about Rio Antigo, I think the facilities (including cabinas) are some of the best. And it is not really centro, more Gloria.
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Rikkit2 Day 5
The Copa beach scene was solid, as the sun is finally shining, and people are out on the sand basking away. The crowd was not to bad for a weekday. My walk took me from in front of Rio Othon Palace (aka Hooker Beach) and south. But I did not get to go onto the beach hunting, as Suzy was supposedly dropping by in a few minutes. CJW and I are headed for the beach tomorrow on a trolling expedition. I also hope to hit Copa and Ipanema on Sat/Sun, and report back on where the hotspots are.
CJW and I walked over to Balcony just before 1600. At that time, the crowd was dead dead dead. No Karla, no Fernanda. But some nice talent showed up as we ordered food. CJW and I have different enough tastes that it works well – he took a blonde w/ big boobs, I took a morena w/big boobs. He went on to session w/ his girl, while I politely disengaged and went off to L'omo's and Suzy. We had the prolonged make-out session again both before and after. Awesome session again, with me being more aggressive to make up for her no-show the other day. She was up for some rough face fucking, which she handled well. She also handled the rougher foreplay well. Missionary, lazy doggie, and finish BBBJCIM. In the lounge, she finally trotted out the expected "you are my regular" rules. Tonight was the last night I could session w/ anyone I wanted at L'uomo's. After this was her and her alone, or her and another girl (I have no idea why this was okay w/ her – she is not into girls) with Ingrid and Pietra as the exceptions. Cool beans, as that leaves Solarium and MC for variety in the immediate area as sources of variety, and me happy with the three I was free to do.
With the number of guys ebbing and flowing between 5 and 9, she was much more aggressive in the common room, giving me a dry, then a wet hand job after our session. (Laughing) exhibition anyone? We were surrounded by girls, who thought nothing of the dry but raised a few eyebrows at the wet handjob. Fortunately there were no other guys around to disapprove of her blatant display of, er, affection.
At 9 PM, rehooked up with CJW and headed for Bar 22. We were under no pressure to pay the door fee until we decided to stay and down a brewski or soda. I guess there was half a dozen girls hanging around, lined up in the cool hall. The place smelled vaguely like they had a broken sewer line and it was hot inside the bar proper. There was one really really cute latina there. Natalia. Both CJW and I agreed that she was "pick of the litter". CJW had an upcoming date scheduled with his 2nd session from 4x4 yesterday, so I was cleared for final approach. Did she kiss? Si. Was she completa? Si. But we did not make out in the lounge – she said it was against the rules (doubtful – more likely it was to save on reapplications of lipstick).
Session 2 – Natalia, 19, very small tummy, good tone, soft skin. After two kids, her breasts were in remarkable shape. She also sported a c-section scar, and a number of tattoos. She is also the reason that we have this board. She was naïve to the point that I had a hard time believing that she was a GDP working in a place line Bar 22. She made out like an inexperienced 14 year old (which is fine as long as you are a horny 14 year old yourself). No spit was harmed during the tongue kissing. When we went on to heavy petting and DATY, it was obvious a) she didn't know what the hell she was doing with a guy, and b) she had no idea in the world how she was wired either. Well, the session was for an hour, and we had time to work through her hot spots. Basically, any time she started feeling real good, she'd freeze up. The most bizarre expression of this behavior was during DATY when she got close to coming, she pulled my fingers out of her pussy, as the sensations were too intense. Dammit woman, they are supposed to be intense. Licking – slow, medium pressure. Fast makes her happy, but your tongue will fall off before she comes. She was naturally wet and she liked fucking, but not tight. She was passive during the fucking; she just curled into me whatever position we were in, and put me to work. We also played with lube (she had none, but spit was "gross". This girl is completa? She was during our session, but how does she normally?). She had never seen a toy before, and liked it uapplied intensely, but refused to use it on herself. I had to drive. We also tried stimulating gel, again a hit with her. On the guy side, she only gives covered BJ, and only after I showered again mid-session. She was not into ball licking, and seemed quite uncomfortable even stroking the boys. WTFO.
The session was inexpensive (good) but a miss in the hit-or-miss category. Some of you guys are into corrupting the naïve. It can be fun, but in this case my Porto was not up to making it fun enough for me. She was so happy at the end of the session, "wow! I came twice! ", while I was wondering what the talent was like at Balcony tonight. She spontaneously punched her number into my cell, and was all kissy before and in the shower. She glommed onto me afterward in the lounge and snuggled, but was back to "no kisses on the mouth". Some of you will like her as a pretty suck-and-fuck, others will like pushing her naivety, but for me I'd rather have dropped the extra R70 for a nasty 4x4 girl who is busy trying to teach me kinky stuff. But what about Puta Playa's GFE recommendations of Bianca and Gabrielle? I asked upon arrival and the mamasan upon departure. "they don't work here anymore". C'mon, PP was just here days ago! Sigh.
By the time I punched out it was about 2 AM, so I skipped the Balcony fly-by. Sleeping alone again in Brazil? I need to change GDP pursuit paradigms.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]...MC is in Copa Cabana and if you are 5 minutes from L'uomo, you are probably even closer to MC. Pricing and hours similar, different discounting schemes. Similar ambiance but different... Very different from 4X4. I omly mntioned the other two since you were going to centro...[/QUOTE]
Well now you have the answer, I was ignorant of where MC is, or rather, on closer thought, I think I walked by it with Rikkit, but he took me by a half dozen places I simply cannot remember all of them and did not put 2 and 2 together.
Last night we stopped by Club 22 (Bar 22?) there was one doable girl in my opinion, Natalie or something to that effect, but I was tired after Lily and expecting Sinche so I passed. Rikkit and I were pawing over her at the same time, she seemed a little unsure of what the crazy gringos were thinking. She also did not want to kiss, but otherwise seemed interested in me, which was fine by me, because to be honest the constant kissing for half hour to hour intervals at the termas is making my mouth tired.
I don't know if the girls are just saying it, but I think they really like blue eyes and blond hair. For her part, she had nice blonde hair all over her legs, although otherwise her hair was black and her skin was a dark copperish color. Nice little titties, real of course, but not nearly as firm and perky as Lily's. I think Rikkit took her to the back, I went home and took a nap expecting Sinche to call or not.
I thought Club 22 was very reasonable pricing, 22 entrada, 100 for 30 min, or 150 for 60 min. The A/C was not really doing the job in the fishbowl, when I first walked in I felt like I was going into a sauna, but it seemed to be operating better in the back where the cabines are. I did not session so I do not know what the facilities were like, my impression is the facilities were probably not all that great.
I woke up an hour later, it was a little after 00:00, I passed in and out of sleep, by 1 am Sinche had not called, oh well, I had half a mind to call Lily back, or meander back over to Club 22 and try Natalie, but just went to sleep thinking happy thoughts.
I depart today, I scheduled a late (6 pm) checkout this morning after the sumptuous breakfast buffet. So now I have time to do some work, pack, shit, shave, shower... and contemplate who will be my love(s) of the day for nice leisurely fuck or two before going home.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]You are so clueless.
PS : SHD, Turkmenistan isn't bad indeed, if you like curvaceous Persian beauties. Plus, unlike in Rio, no chances there to meet Tyron from the ghetto or Billy Joe from the trailer park, which is a big plus.[/QUOTE]That's Right. There you only meet the -- most interesting men in the world. Genghis, Tarus Bulba, and Peshwar. and the generic Eurotrash.
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[QUOTE=Fred100]Strongly recommend Douala in the Cameroon. Stunning women and great food.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Oh, yeah, African food is great ..not even talking of those rum "macerations"
I still love Slavic women above all, but for my dose of "exotism" (not only for mongering, but also culturally and touristically) I'm more and more interested by Africa, and seriously ponder about a trip to Mali this winter.
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Pricing at 22
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]
I thought Club 22 was very reasonable pricing, 22 entrada, 100 for 30 min, or 150 for 60 min. The A/C was not really doing the job in the fishbowl, when I first walked in I felt like I was going into a sauna, but it seemed to be operating better in the back where the cabines are. I did not session so I do not know what the facilities were like, my impression is the facilities were probably not all that great. [/QUOTE]
I hate to break this to you, but since you gents seem to be fairly loaded with cash (so much L'uomo ) I'm sure it won't break your heart. Bar 22 just hit you with their gringo pricing.
The entrance is R12 and covers 3 beers, 40 minutes is R90. The woman at the counter will do this if she senses that you aren't experienced there. She did it to me last year, R100/30. I came back this year speaking intermediate Porto and she didn't try it. SlimHoleDrill posted the real prices here and those were still valid for me a couple weeks ago.
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[QUOTE=Rikkit2] Some of you will like her as a pretty suck-and-fuck, others will like pushing her naivety, but for me I'd rather have dropped the extra R70 for a nasty 4x4 girl who is busy trying to teach me kinky stuff. But what about Puta Playa's GFE recommendations of Bianca and Gabrielle? I asked upon arrival and the mamasan upon departure. "they don't work here anymore". C'mon, PP was just here days ago! Sigh.
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22's Bianca was in my report from about a year ago, and she was there with what seemed to be a pimp/cuckold BF, making quick cash for his motorcycle payment or whatever, I suppose, so I didn't expect to see her there there this year and didn't. Not GFE anyway. CBJ, boooring. Blow cum, not bag it.
Sorry you missed Gabrielle. She was GFE but too dangerous to us and herself with the BBFS, so let's hope she's off the program. There is more fresh pink meat coming down from the hills all the time, when they see their friends making easy money on their backs, and I look forward to finding these new ones next time.
So, are you gentlemen tired of hearing the Edward Maya Stereo Love song yet? That seemed to be playing everywhere I went in Centro. I even fucked a couple girls to it in an apartment and in Florida. I was getting sick of it, but had suadades the other day and had to start listening to it. Visions of Club Florida garotas swung around poles in my head. :)
Guys who are talking FSU vs Africa and all that, it's interesting, why not take it to the Best Countries for ST thread? Besides, in Rio, gringos don't even need to speak the language or know the city to have unlimited fun. There are superior places for quality and adventure, but comparing those to Rio is like apples to oranges. Rio is the McDonald's of mongering, people go there cause it's easy, filling, and everyone in the world knows the menu by reputation...Billy Joe, Tyrone, Pierre, and Sum Yung Gy all fly in, cab to Zona Sul, put favela girls and youthful single moms through their paces, and fly back home. Not even comparable.
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NO, that was really me ;0
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I attributed it to Euro100, see below. But now I see he used it after you, so I am correcting my citation. ;) Either way, I like the phrase. What is the copyright licensing fee?
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Actually, it really was me who wrote: "OK, I am giving a lot of details here, but part of the reason I am writing this is that when I am 90 and sitting in a retirement home, drooling into my oatmeal, I plan to re-read these reports and trigger those memories . And I don’t want to forget that feeling of her shuddering under me. Yum!"
Read all about it ... here: [url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=940765[/url]
So ... PP attributed correctly. All of you lawyers, stand down!
Oh, and PP: I really enjoyed all of your recent detailed reports.
Cheers
euro
(... only has 9 days until my next trip to RIO!!!!)
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Wondering if anyone has seen simone from Monte Carlo. Saw her one trip and never went up, regreted it and now I'm very curious. Anyone know how she is and if she is still working or have contact info.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I hate to break this to you, but since you gents seem to be fairly loaded with cash (so much L'uomo ) I'm sure it won't break your heart. Bar 22 just hit you with their gringo pricing.
The entrance is R12 and covers 3 beers, 40 minutes is R90. The woman at the counter will do this if she senses that you aren't experienced there. She did it to me last year, R100/30. I came back this year speaking intermediate Porto and she didn't try it. SlimHoleDrill posted the real prices here and those were still valid for me a couple weeks ago.
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And still good as of last night. Talent was pretty good too. A number of doables. Of course, that is a matter of opinion. Definitely best to hit that place in the winter though. It has the dank ambiance one usually associates with the flesh pits of SE Asia. I don't think it ever dries out. The infamous Bahiana once told me it is best to go early in the week. She said that the towels just get damper as the week goes on. Thank god they close on Sundays or they would have wet towels all the time. I think they should close for a week and douse the whole place with bleach. Obviously, though, it doesn't keep me away.
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[QUOTE=Rikkit2]
Suzy - she finally trotted out the expected "you are my regular" rules. Tonight was the last night I could session w/ anyone I wanted at L'uomo's.[/QUOTE]
Don't put up with this, you are paying, hence you make the rules. If you ignore her and session with someone else she will pretend to be upset but she will always be there if you want to bang her again - probably work even harder to to try and keep you!
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[QUOTE=Zingadoon] the generic Eurotrash.[/QUOTE]Bubba, I know you're nostalgic of the JW Bush era, but let me tell you once more that calling frenchs "eurotrash" is no more politically correct nowadays.
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Well had my last "night" in Brazil yesterday. I got a late check out at 6 pm (paid for half a day), so I had a nice leisurely breakfast, did a little work, hooked up with Rikkit and we went to the beach for an hour, then I came back, had lunch, finished up my work, and called Lily.
Now, I have had a good impression of Lily and I decided to put it to the test.
I called her a number several times around 2:30, no answer. Then I noticed she left a second number. I called and her friend picked up. I said I would like to see Lily at 3:00. Friend said 5, as Lily was out "shopping". I said no can do, as I will not have enough time. So, friend said when, I said 4 pm, friend said Lily will be there at 4:00 pm.
So, around 4:00 no Lily so I call the friend, she says Lily is in a cab on the way. Rikkit then called, so we decided to meet in the lobby, and if Lily did not show by 4:30, to go to a terma.
Well, about 4:25 taxi pulls up, Lily hops out, with big shopping bag, and runs to front desk! Wow, GDP is EARLY! She also apparently was in a cab and had been shopping. We kiss, Rikkit and I say good bye, and Lily and I head up to the room for our last tryst.
After kissing and such while she stroked me with oleo de bebe (the bbbj are giving me the willies thanks all you a-holes writing crap in the safe sex forum) then put on a local jimmie (olla largo, thanks to the brother who recommended them) and she pushed me down for reverse cowgirl, she was not taking no for an answer, but her thumbs sank into my thighs like a vice, so after a minute or two I rolled her over without missing a beat and gave her the lazy dog, after a good long bout of that she started yelling fart farT faRT fART FART! FART! She said a whole bunch of other stuff I couldn't understand.
I had been wondering why these girls keep yelling "Fart!" at me when I'm trying to fuck them. but Rikkit said they are not warning me of upcoming flatulence, but rather were saying Safado which apparently means that they are enjoying themselves.
The olla largo was preventing me from nutting, so when she calmed down a little and stopped yelling, I rolled her over, ripped the jimmie off, squirted baby oil all over her torso, and fucked her thighs and titties anything else I could find and she started to moan and jack me off while saying dame tu leche or something like that and I came all over her while she was yelling.
Well, it was about 5:30 so we timed this just right. So we shower again, she is just babling away about all this crazy stuff, I guess she is from Minas Gerais, and she used to have a house in Copacapana and she was telling me all about this stuff, and how she wanted me to get some perfume for her Uomi os something. I was like this is great dear but you need to hurry up and get ready because I have to get to the airport, and she was like, oh, I thought we have until 7 pm... so we get ready, she checks place over to make sure I didn't leave anything, and we go downstairs, she is waiting for me but i have to check out, so she comes over gives me big kiss on the lips and bye bye. She almost forgot her money, I gave it to her, she said the day before she forgot it in the cab doh!
So I think she was all right, just very down-to-earth person, very good attitude, patient about long walk, never upsell, very eager to please, timely... fake blonde but very fair-skinned, and her tits were the largest real tits I saw in Rio, price not bad either, I was looking at Bubba Guide and it seems like 150 is not bad to take out from Help (Balcony).
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I hate to break this to you, but since you gents seem to be fairly loaded with cash (so much L'uomo ) I'm sure it won't break your heart. Bar 22 just hit you with their gringo pricing... entrance is R12 and covers 3 beers, 40 minutes is R90. The woman at the counter will do this if she senses that you aren't experienced there. She did it to me last year, R100/30... [/QUOTE]
Damn I thought they were grinning at me because of my good looks and clever wit...
[QUOTE=Puta Playa] Guys who are talking FSU vs Africa and all that, it's interesting, why not take it to the Best Countries for ST thread...[/QUOTE]
Say that again. Although in 4x4 there were a bunch of guys from Angola. So you may be closer to Africa than you think... only a few mm of latex (fortunately thick Brazilian latex) separating you and the Dark Continent...
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Bar 22 Conditions
[quote=slimholedrill] it has the dank ambiance one usually associates with the flesh pits of se asia. [/quote]
yeah, but no soapy massage and the shower is so cold that it makes ones balls climb north. the good part is making a raucous when the cabine window is open. people walking by on siqueria campos should be able to hear the act. :)
guys should watch out for the hyper skinny one in there that runs around barefoot all the time. i've spent enough time around her to tell that she's trouble, butterfly, drama queen, and probably a big waste of session money. better to pick a wallflower who has a smile for you and will give you tongue in the hallway outside the bar before she sees your reais, as usual it's hard to go wrong with a girl with a genuine smile and wandering tongue.
back to soapy massage, perhaps its best they don't have that here. sometimes the girls are larger than the guys mongering them..
[b][red]crazy jim wood[/red][/b], congratulations on a successful maiden voyage to rio! good reports. real down to earth without pretense and you speak the truth and don't sanitize anything. safado is like naughty man, in that context. dirty minded. safado usually comes out when you speed up into an especially vigorous fuck, smack ass with hand, smack face with dick, dine anywhere below the string tanline, or provide similar opportunities for use of the word. so yeah, they say it when they are being entertained. you can call her safada if you want to bring out the best in a gdp, especially for persuasion to bb, anal, or cim..to set the mood, or to ensure that she'll keep doing whatever she's doing, like giving a bj at a speed that you like. i suppose diminutive safadinha is better, but i don't know. the experts could advise in the language thread.
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[QUOTE=Euro100]Actually, it really was me who wrote: "OK, I am giving a lot of details here, but part of the reason I am writing this is that when I am 90 and sitting in a retirement home, drooling into my oatmeal, I plan to re-read these reports and trigger those memories . And I don’t want to forget that feeling of her shuddering under me. Yum!"
Read all about it ... here: [url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=940765[/url]
So ... PP attributed correctly. All of you lawyers, stand down!
Oh, and PP: I really enjoyed all of your recent detailed reports.
Cheers,
euro
(... only has 9 days until my next trip to RIO!!!!)[/QUOTE]Why are you guys making such a big deal over who made this comment? It ain't Shakespeare.
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[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood] I rolled her over without missing a beat and gave her the lazy dog, after a good long bout of that she started yelling fart farT faRT fART FART! FART! She said a whole bunch of other stuff I couldn't understand.
I had been wondering why these girls keep yelling "Fart!" at me when I'm trying to fuck them. but Rikkit said they are not warning me of upcoming flatulence, but rather were saying Safado which apparently means that they are enjoying themselves.[/QUOTE]Forte (pronounced farch) = strong.
I wish there was a reality show of you and Rikkit in Rio. Like a buddy film like "Tommy Boy". Classic. Actually gave me a new show idea.
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Things change
Rio Antigo is apparently closed. Sign is gone, web site has disappeared. This is a great tragedy as it was once one of, if not the best in Rio. Anybody have any inside information on what happened or if it is just for renovation or??? i guess they never fully recovered from the raid.
Also, Monte Carlo is announcing that after July, they will not be open on Sunday. This is also very bad news. Let's hope L'uomo does not follow suit. This is seriously restricting Sunday options.
I guess business is not so good. It is winter, but come on, closing on Sunday!
Sorry I don't have better news. But, it is another great day in Rio, beautiful weather, so, on to other things.
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Rio Antigo had very nice facilities, but the girl quality was horrible. How you can say they were one of the best is crazy. I ran out of there fairly quick. never saw a 6 or better in the place. this was a few years back. maybe things have changed since then.
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Sunday at termas
So far as termas in centro are closed on sunday, I went always to Montecarlo, L'uomo or Solarium, but on sunday there was almost no vibe, girls tired or boring, I sessioned on sunday but nothing to remember.
However the worst of 3 was always Montecarlo, I remember one sunday on end of january 2010 we were only in 4 men for more than 2 hours, so I can believe now it should be really dead...
I really hate sunday when I am on holiday, as no matter where, but it seems dead almost everywhere in the world with the "minus" that the beaches are too much crowded for my taste.
Definetely a day to spend with GF and not mongering....imho.
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I remember solarium was the best on sunday. They were always packed, and the girls would dress in a theme outfit. LM and MC were usually dead. I had many good sessions there on sunday.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]So far as termas in centro are closed on sunday, I went always to Montecarlo, L'uomo or Solarium, but on sunday there was almost no vibe, girls tired or boring, I sessioned on sunday but nothing to remember.
However the worst of 3 was always Montecarlo, I remember one sunday on end of january 2010 we were only in 4 men for more than 2 hours, so I can believe now it should be really dead...
I really hate sunday when I am on holiday, as no matter where, but it seems dead almost everywhere in the world with the "minus" that the beaches are too much crowded for my taste.
Definetely a day to spend with GF and not mongering....imho.[/QUOTE]
Well, I guess I feel differently since I have had some great Sundays. Hanging out watching football, feijoada, just laid back. Beats watching CNN. In fact, I'd say my worst time in termas beats most other things on the planet.
I agree that when travelling, Sundays can be a drag. But that is exactly why I like the termas option. It is especially nice if you have a flight out. Go to the termas about 3 or 4. Leave at 5 or 6 in time for the flight. It takes the edge off the airport hassle, too. Heck, When time is tight, I have been known to be there when the door opens, grab the first girl around, usually looking sleepy, and give her a good wake up shag. I think that's a great option and don't care if anybody is there or if she is bored. She won't be for long.
But that's just me. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that point.
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Rittit2 Day 6 and 7
day 6
flitted around the beach – good eye candy out, but cjw and i only made one pass. no crazy gdps jumped us as we walked by. suzy showed up, and made up for the no shows with style. this girl is hot, and worth the multiple repeats. afterwards, i headed over to cjw's place, but he successfully reconnected with yesterday's conquest, which left me free to hitch up with a local monger. rg had a visiting friend that i thought was interesting, and she went home with me. we tried to hitch up with her roomie, but it was not meant to be.
session 2 – renata has a decent face (call it a 6), and a tight body (call it an 8. 5 spinner class). her energy levels were fantastic, and her attitude was wonderful. she spent the night, but we did not session in the am – r250. we spent a leisurely 2 ¼ hours making out, then working through the gamut of positions, with me ending bbbjcim. yes, she was completa, and took it like a champ. i want this girl again before i leave.
it still was not too late, but tomorrow promises to be something special. so i crashed instead of strolling over to balcony.
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day 7
session 1, 2, 3. hitched up with rg, and arranged for three scortshow-ers to show up for rotisserie sessions. none are on the web site. they did bring the scortshow book, and i thought that milena and adriele were the pick of the litter hidden face looks-wise. rafaela has a nice face, but she is a milf. but turning to current events.
rebecca – best bbbj, but a distraction to the other girls, vanilla gdp experience, she did everything i asked, but did not show any initiative at all.
kelly – cutest, but mediocre across the board performance-wise. ditto on playing nice, but no initiative.
caroline – least pretty face, most gfe by far, naïve in a nice way.
they didn't allow pics, but all had nice bodies, were young, tight, and spinner-class. they were not completa, albeit with kelly, she let me get a good start and never said no.
we started in one bedroom, but there really was not enough space, and caroline was shy around the other girls. hey, it was her second day on the job. so we ended up having two separate sessions in two separate rooms, with caroline going solo with both of us. i started with the two, and it was fun, but i would not repeat with either as a dupla; i would do kelly again alone and test her completa boundaries. caroline was the keeper of the bunch. the least pretty, the best performance, and really all she did was interact as a gfe. she was the only one i really focused on, and she came easily with straight sex alone. she finished me bbbjcim, albeit more of a cum tongue affair. i still would not session with her again – there are too many other unsampled venues.
was the n+1 session a good value? three tight girls, different levels of performance, a full unrushed msog 120 minutes, r400 split two ways. we threw caroline a substantial tip to encourage her to keep up the good gfe work. so as compared to 4x4, not as good on a per-girl basis, and a lot lot cheaper if you are looking for variety.
ah, the hidden costs of those freebies with suzy. she showed up pretty much on time on her day off, with her bambino. we ate, walked the beach, saw the latest shrek cartoon. a pretty nice date overall. then she was off to home with the little tyke.
session 4. i met a modeling guy working on a new web page with his latest model. she was cute. and she sessioned with me. see the pics – i think ana clara is quite pretty. she gfed and was totally into it for the first 30 minutes. after three or four orgasms, she begged for a five minute reprieve; we necked, i rubbed her back. but she became gdp-like from that point onward, just wanting to get me off and not fully interacting with me. hmm, so much for the "ladies first" perspective. no bbbj, lackadaisical performance.completa, but ymmv. i chose to cut her lose at the hour mark. r200 for one hour, was supposed to be r300 for two hours, and i probably should have prorated it to r100 for a half hour, really. probably my worst session ever in rio, where even a vanilla session is really pretty good.
so i went to balcony under the if-at-first-you-don't-succeed rule. gilciara was there – cute, but not a word of english, and a very very passive personality. could be a good time for a dominant assertive guy, could be a total lemon. only one way to tell, so i. passed until one of you gives her a try and tells us all about it. but, what-ho? fernanda, the girl that i met earlier in the week who is new to the gdp scene was there. great english skills, brainy, a slender greyhound with the cup aftermarket parts. i took her back with me.
session 5. we talked and made out for quite awhile before moving onto the main event. she is definitely a semi-pro. very very gfe, very very responsive woman. she gives an aggressive bbbj, but is not completa (er, yet. i'll have to work on that in future sessions. she handled my preliminary touching well – she may have had a bad earlier experience). she too liked the whole frottage thing. we took it very easy easing through cowgirl, missionary, lazy doggie. she was not used to american sized cock, and really got off well in every position. she was not afraid to touch herself, or show you how she wanted to be touched. she was also equipped with speed breaks – quality lube or no, when she was happy the breaks went on and suddenly the pressure/friction was through the roof. suddenly i don't really care if she is completa or not. she tired easily though – i doubt we did the deed for 15 minutes total before she was ready to finish me bbbjcim. she slept over with the understanding that there would be a second session in the am as well. tln price. $400, which is reasonable for a prolonged double session.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]In fact, I'd say my worst time in termas beats most other things on the planet.[/QUOTE]
AMEN!!! :D
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]
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Guys should watch out for the hyper skinny one in there that runs around barefoot all the time. I've spent enough time around her to tell that she's trouble, butterfly, drama queen, and probably a big waste of session money. Better to pick a wallflower who has a smile for you and will give you tongue in the hallway outside the bar before she sees your Reais, as usual it's hard to go wrong with a girl with a genuine smile and wandering tongue.
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I thought that too, but then caught her in a pensive mood one night and decided to try it. She was ok. For what it is worth, despite her skank behavior, she is the cleanest one I have run into there, with the exception of Bahiana who is no longer present. I was pleasantly surprised and would repeat, maybe try her in her manic state.
There is another one I had avoided for a long time as just not doable. Real short with a wide ass and curly hair. I'm sure you know her. Anyway, I watched her dance one night and then she came in really fixed up another night so I gave it a try. Unbelievable service, but probably most would say not doable. I will repeat for sure.
It is interesting that when you hang out at a place for some time, you begin to notice alluring things about most of the girls. After all, they wouldn't be in the business long if they didn't have attraction for some guys. So, I have an open mind, but have to admit I can't get past the giant, fat, shaking mounds of celulite asses I have seen lately.
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[QUOTE=Euro100]Actually, it really was me who wrote: "OK, I am giving a lot of details here, but part of the reason I am writing this is that when I am 90 and sitting in a retirement home, drooling into my oatmeal, I plan to re-read these reports and trigger those memories . And I don’t want to forget that feeling of her shuddering under me. Yum!"
Read all about it ... here: [url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=940765[/url]
So ... PP attributed correctly. All of you lawyers, stand down!
Oh, and PP: I really enjoyed all of your recent detailed reports.
Cheers
euro
(... only has 9 days until my next trip to RIO!!!!)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]That was MY quote! PP stole it from me:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=928250&postcount=2215[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=276387&postcount=228[/url][/QUOTE]
Check the dates, you moron. Your quote was dated 10/13/09. My nearly identical quote was dated 9/12/09, and I made a very similar one way back on 8/26/04. Therefore my quote was first and you, consciously, or unconsciously, stole it from me.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Why are you guys making such a big deal over who made this comment? It ain't Shakespeare.[/QUOTE]
You're undoubtedly right, but the quality of the quote isn't the issue. The issue is correct attribution.
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[QUOTE=Helprules]Rio Antigo had very nice facilities, but the girl quality was horrible. How you can say they were one of the best is crazy. I ran out of there fairly quick. never saw a 6 or better in the place. this was a few years back. maybe things have changed since then.[/QUOTE]
Well, I must be crazy. Are you kidding me? I used to pull twins out of this place. When are talking about that you had to run? How many times did you go?
YMMV. It doesn't matter, but maybe you don't have enough history with the place to pass judgement? I am talking long term. If you have tried a number of times and still you think it is bad ok. But you need to say that.
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Becareful with Solarium
I was there the other day, requested for a cabina for an hour, they only had cabinas for 40 minutes. Tudo bem! Not even 30 minutes went by, and the phone started ringing. I went to talk to the lady in charge of the ladies locker and the cabinas. SHe was saying sorry 500 times, but bottom line.....I still had to pay for the 40 minutes. Then she turns me on to the fat gerente/bouncer guy, and he tells me that if I come back the next day, he will add 10 minutes more to my time.........what a c**k. He just doesn't get it.
I did not get to shoot my load. THe lady tells me she will give me 10 more minutes if i go back into the cabina with the girl, after all of this discussion by the front desk, at the entrance.......what a freaken joke. I gave everyone a very nasty look, was actually thinking about telling them to call the cops just to form a big stink, even though I would still have to pay. Calma, calma, is all I could hear after the nasty look.
As for the gerente, just another ass who doesn't know how to deal with a client. After getting dressed and making payment, I asked the chubby lady ( she speaks english very well, and is always asking for a tip ) who handles the payments....." do you remember my face from previous visits throughout the years?".......she said " Yes, ofcourse"..........I said " Well, its the last time you will see it around here", and I walked out without saying goodbye. Her facial expression was of shock. I purposely asked her in front of the gerente, so he would take note.
Just beware gentlemen. This is not the first time nor the last time it will ever happen in a termas. Its part of the deal. You win some and you lose some. But just beware. Oh yea, and for the record, all of these conversations took place in portuguese.
My opinion, which I also expreseed to the staff, .........this is not a cheap place, so you gladly pay, as long as its a place that provides very good and honest service in an organized manner. Good Luck at Solarium.
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wow. you lucky chap. she is a real hot body and looker.
just looking at her pics you posted mad my day!
cheers
[quote=rikkit2]day 6
flitted around the beach – good eye candy out, but cjw and i only made one pass. no crazy gdps jumped us as we walked by. suzy showed up, and made up for the no shows with style. this girl is hot, and worth the multiple repeats. afterwards, i headed over to cjw's place, but he successfully reconnected with yesterday's conquest, which left me free to hitch up with a local monger. rg had a visiting friend that i thought was interesting, and she went home with me. we tried to hitch up with her roomie, but it was not meant to be.
session 2 – renata has a decent face (call it a 6), and a tight body (call it an 8. 5 spinner class). her energy levels were fantastic, and her attitude was wonderful. she spent the night, but we did not session in the am – r250. we spent a leisurely 2 ¼ hours making out, then working through the gamut of positions, with me ending bbbjcim. yes, she was completa, and took it like a champ. i want this girl again before i leave.
it still was not too late, but tomorrow promises to be something special. so i crashed instead of strolling over to balcony.
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day 7
session 1, 2, 3. hitched up with rg, and arranged for three scortshow-ers to show up for rotisserie sessions. none are on the web site. they did bring the scortshow book, and i thought that milena and adriele were the pick of the litter hidden face looks-wise. rafaela has a nice face, but she is a milf. but turning to current events.
rebecca – best bbbj, but a distraction to the other girls, vanilla gdp experience, she did everything i asked, but did not show any initiative at all.
kelly – cutest, but mediocre across the board performance-wise. ditto on playing nice, but no initiative.
caroline – least pretty face, most gfe by far, naïve in a nice way.
they didn't allow pics, but all had nice bodies, were young, tight, and spinner-class. they were not completa, albeit with kelly, she let me get a good start and never said no.
we started in one bedroom, but there really was not enough space, and caroline was shy around the other girls. hey, it was her second day on the job. so we ended up having two separate sessions in two separate rooms, with caroline going solo with both of us. i started with the two, and it was fun, but i would not repeat with either as a dupla; i would do kelly again alone and test her completa boundaries. caroline was the keeper of the bunch. the least pretty, the best performance, and really all she did was interact as a gfe. she was the only one i really focused on, and she came easily with straight sex alone. she finished me bbbjcim, albeit more of a cum tongue affair. i still would not session with her again – there are too many other unsampled venues.
was the n+1 session a good value? three tight girls, different levels of performance, a full unrushed msog 120 minutes, r400 split two ways. we threw caroline a substantial tip to encourage her to keep up the good gfe work. so as compared to 4x4, not as good on a per-girl basis, and a lot lot cheaper if you are looking for variety.
ah, the hidden costs of those freebies with suzy. she showed up pretty much on time on her day off, with her bambino. we ate, walked the beach, saw the latest shrek cartoon. a pretty nice date overall. then she was off to home with the little tyke.
session 4. i met a modeling guy working on a new web page with his latest model. she was cute. and she sessioned with me. see the pics – i think ana clara is quite pretty. she gfed and was totally into it for the first 30 minutes. after three or four orgasms, she begged for a five minute reprieve; we necked, i rubbed her back. but she became gdp-like from that point onward, just wanting to get me off and not fully interacting with me. hmm, so much for the "ladies first" perspective. no bbbj, lackadaisical performance.completa, but ymmv. i chose to cut her lose at the hour mark. r200 for one hour, was supposed to be r300 for two hours, and i probably should have prorated it to r100 for a half hour, really. probably my worst session ever in rio, where even a vanilla session is really pretty good.
so i went to balcony under the if-at-first-you-don't-succeed rule. gilciara was there – cute, but not a word of english, and a very very passive personality. could be a good time for a dominant assertive guy, could be a total lemon. only one way to tell, so i. passed until one of you gives her a try and tells us all about it. but, what-ho? fernanda, the girl that i met earlier in the week who is new to the gdp scene was there. great english skills, brainy, a slender greyhound with the cup aftermarket parts. i took her back with me.
session 5. we talked and made out for quite awhile before moving onto the main event. she is definitely a semi-pro. very very gfe, very very responsive woman. she gives an aggressive bbbj, but is not completa (er, yet. i'll have to work on that in future sessions. she handled my preliminary touching well – she may have had a bad earlier experience). she too liked the whole frottage thing. we took it very easy easing through cowgirl, missionary, lazy doggie. she was not used to american sized cock, and really got off well in every position. she was not afraid to touch herself, or show you how she wanted to be touched. she was also equipped with speed breaks – quality lube or no, when she was happy the breaks went on and suddenly the pressure/friction was through the roof. suddenly i don't really care if she is completa or not. she tired easily though – i doubt we did the deed for 15 minutes total before she was ready to finish me bbbjcim. she slept over with the understanding that there would be a second session in the am as well. tln price. $400, which is reasonable for a prolonged double session.[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Mangera]I was there the other day, requested for a cabina for an hour, they only had cabinas for 40 minutes. Tudo bem! Not even 30 minutes went by, and the phone started ringing. I went to talk to the lady in charge of the ladies locker and the cabinas. SHe was saying sorry 500 times, but bottom line. I still had to pay for the 40 minutes. Then she turns me on to the fat gerente/bouncer guy, and he tells me that if I come back the next day, he will add 10 minutes more to my time. What a c**k. He just doesn't get it.
I did not get to shoot my load. THe lady tells me she will give me 10 more minutes if I go back into the cabina with the girl, after all of this discussion by the front desk, at the entrance. What a freaken joke. I gave everyone a very nasty look, was actually thinking about telling them to call the cops just to form a big stink, even though I would still have to pay. Calma, calma, is all I could hear after the nasty look.
As for the gerente, just another ass who doesn't know how to deal with a client. After getting dressed and making payment, I asked the chubby lady (she speaks english very well, and is always asking for a tip) who handles the payments. " do you remember my face from previous visits throughout the years? ". She said " Yes, ofcourse". I said " Well, its the last time you will see it around here", and I walked out without saying goodbye. Her facial expression was of shock. I purposely asked her in front of the gerente, so he would take note.
Just beware gentlemen. This is not the first time nor the last time it will ever happen in a termas. Its part of the deal. You win some and you lose some. But just beware. Oh yea, and for the record, all of these conversations took place in portuguese.
My opinion, which I also expreseed to the staff,. This is not a cheap place, so you gladly pay, as long as its a place that provides very good and honest service in an organized manner. Good Luck at Solarium.[/QUOTE]Agree.
I know the lady you are talking about. Solarium was never high on my visit list, but have been many times over the years (not a good sign when every temas knows you by name). Not sure if I was just unlucky there, but never found the place that well organized.
The pressure for the tip at reception always rankled me as well. The droves of Brasilero ass grabbers that frequent at certain times is also a bit of a turn off. I would sooner pay $R200 for entrance and have $R130 deducted from my program. This would thin out the ass grabbers who have no intention of going to a room and make more space at the bar.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]I thought that too, but then caught her in a pensive mood one night and decided to try it. She was ok. For what it is worth, despite her skank behavior, she is the cleanest one I have run into there, with the exception of Bahiana who is no longer present. I was pleasantly surprised and would repeat, maybe try her in her manic state.
There is another one I had avoided for a long time as just not doable. Real short with a wide ass and curly hair. I'm sure you know her. Anyway, I watched her dance one night and then she came in really fixed up another night so I gave it a try. Unbelievable service, but probably most would say not doable. I will repeat for sure.
It is interesting that when you hang out at a place for some time, you begin to notice alluring things about most of the girls. After all, they wouldn't be in the business long if they didn't have attraction for some guys. So, I have an open mind, but have to admit I can't get past the giant, fat, shaking mounds of celulite asses I have seen lately.[/QUOTE]Fat ugly women need loving to. Help me out here! I'm getting tired of shouldering the load.
What have fat girls and mopeds got in common.
They are both fun to ride until someone see's you.
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Sorry to hear about that
It really should never have happened to anyone in a place such as this period. But I am just wondering when they treated you so badly. Did this happen during the weekend or during a weekday? Was this a discount night? Was the place empty or full? It will make a difference, at least to me as to weather to go there or join the ban like I have done with Centauros. I will be there very shortly and after hearing about them nickel and diming people, probably won't session there.
[QUOTE=Mangera]I was there the other day, requested for a cabina for an hour, they only had cabinas for 40 minutes. Tudo bem! Not even 30 minutes went by, and the phone started ringing. I went to talk to the lady in charge of the ladies locker and the cabinas. SHe was saying sorry 500 times, but bottom line.....I still had to pay for the 40 minutes. Then she turns me on to the fat gerente/bouncer guy, and he tells me that if I come back the next day, he will add 10 minutes more to my time.........what a c**k. He just doesn't get it.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Check the dates, you moron. Your quote was dated 10/13/09. My nearly identical quote was dated 9/12/09, and I made a very similar one way back on 8/26/04. Therefore my quote was first and you, consciously, or unconsciously, stole it from me.[/QUOTE]You morons have nothing better to do?
The initial quote wasn't even all that clever.
Truely fools.
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Thanks Mangera
In these times of crisi, such stupid behaviour cannot exist !
The owner of Solarium, so far as I know he is from italy, I spoke some times with him, I got the feeling he is ok, probably gerente is only a stupid that has no idea how to behave with customers.
Thanks for sharing this with us and if I was in Rio right now, at the entrance I will ask at desk girl..... is it possible if I pay 40 minutes to have really 40 minutes or you still rob 10 minutes per session as you did with my friend ?
And also I will talk about this with everybody I meet.....
Some really deserve to have good business, but others deserve to close !
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[QUOTE=Mangera]I was there the other day, requested for a cabina for an hour, they only had cabinas for 40 minutes. Tudo bem! Not even 30 minutes went by, and the phone started ringing. I went to talk to the lady in charge of the ladies locker and the cabinas. SHe was saying sorry 500 times, but bottom line. I still had to pay for the 40 minutes. Then she turns me on to the fat gerente/bouncer guy, and he tells me that if I come back the next day, he will add 10 minutes more to my time. What a c**k. He just doesn't get it.
I did not get to shoot my load. THe lady tells me she will give me 10 more minutes if I go back into the cabina with the girl, after all of this discussion by the front desk, at the entrance. What a freaken joke. I gave everyone a very nasty look, was actually thinking about telling them to call the cops just to form a big stink, even though I would still have to pay. Calma, calma, is all I could hear after the nasty look.
As for the gerente, just another ass who doesn't know how to deal with a client. After getting dressed and making payment, I asked the chubby lady (she speaks english very well, and is always asking for a tip) who handles the payments. " do you remember my face from previous visits throughout the years? ". She said " Yes, ofcourse". I said " Well, its the last time you will see it around here", and I walked out without saying goodbye. Her facial expression was of shock. I purposely asked her in front of the gerente, so he would take note.
Just beware gentlemen. This is not the first time nor the last time it will ever happen in a termas. Its part of the deal. You win some and you lose some. But just beware. Oh yea, and for the record, all of these conversations took place in portuguese.
My opinion, which I also expreseed to the staff. This is not a cheap place, so you gladly pay, as long as its a place that provides very good and honest service in an organized manner. Good Luck at Solarium.[/QUOTE]You should not have paid as you did not get 40 minutes. Simple as that. Or, according to their business logic, pro rate the session and take off a 25% discount and a further discount for not cumming. Then hand them a bill for your time and travel expenses that day.
Not a case of win some, lose some. It is supposed to be a business. This story makes absolutely zero sense and is not believable.
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Believable? Whatever dude.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]You should not have paid as you did not get 40 minutes. Simple as that. Or, according to their business logic, pro rate the session and take off a 25% discount and a further discount for not cumming. Then hand them a bill for your time and travel expenses that day.
Not a case of win some, lose some. It is supposed to be a business. This story makes absolutely zero sense and is not believable.[/QUOTE]
What doesn't make sense about getting ripped off in Brazil? Wow, what a shocker. I am not going to get into it as far as whether this really happenned or not. Not going to waste my time with that one.
As far as it being a business, I totally agree and I did express that to them. Yet, they don't give a crap. Am I really going to get into a possible brawl over a 25% discount? Screww that, I just chose to move on, and not ever go back, as well as share my experience with others. Its up to you as how you want to use the information given in this forum. I never told anyone not to go, I just said "Be careful".
As for some other questions on this topic by a member of this forum.......It was a week night, and it was not on A monday ( Discount with printed coupon ). Yes, it was loaded with customers on that night.
As for the ladies in the front asking for tips, I never have given them one.
Bottom line......I don't mind going to an expensive place and paying heavily, as long as the service and product are up to par with the pricing. On that particular night, it was not. Places like Solarium and Cent. are extremely pricey as compared to other places, so expectations should be higher as well. Thats all. Enjoy gentlemen! Oh yea, and " BE CAREFUL "
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[QUOTE=Fred100]Fat ugly women need loving to. Help me out here! I'm getting tired of shouldering the load.
What have fat girls and mopeds got in common.
They are both fun to ride until someone see's you.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I know. The ending I heard was "... but nobody wants to admit it". I was just reflecting on MC the other night which had a large, and I mean large, crop of big cottage cheese buts. I think a long winter on the North Slope would be required for me to go after that, but, hey, some guys must really like it or they wouldn't be in a high-dollar place like MC. Just not for me. I would go for the other end of the spectrum -- skinny skanks -- if I have to choose. But fortunately, they come in all shapes and sizes.
I have seen new ones start out in L'uomo and lose the weight on the job. That works for me and I have seen them slim down into my range. But MC always seems to have a stable of them. And they don't seem to be shy about putting it out there next to the toned ones. So go for it man, you can have my share.
Maybe if they gave a discount ....
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[QUOTE=Fred100]Fat ugly women need loving to. Help me out here! I'm getting tired of shouldering the load.
What have fat girls and mopeds got in common.
They are both fun to ride until someone see's you.[/QUOTE]
That's so true!!!!!!! Even the other GDP's will talk shit if they think you're with a dog.
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]You morons have nothing better to do?
The initial quote wasn't even all that clever.
Truely fools.[/QUOTE]
The word is "truly," not "truely."
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]The word is "truly," not "truely."[/QUOTE]Agreed. You morons truly have nothing better to do.
I am busy multi-tasking and writing my next project: "Drooling in my Oatmeal, Memories of a Mongerer".
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I only went to Rio antigo once. It was so bad that I never went again. The girls looked like the ones at the apartment termas that I can't stand. Aeroporto and Cancun were ok places that are worth a second look, but antigo was a horror show. Maybe it has changed since I went a few years ago. Are you saying Antigo is now on par with 4x4, mc, and, luomo? 3 or 4 years is a long time. I guess I can give it one more shot when I'm back in Brazil.
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stupid business acts in Brazil
Every foreigner that I know that lives on Brazil says exactly the same thing, stupid brazilian business acts are they norm not the exception. There is zero understanding of customer service or basic "best international business standards". It is the most frustrating thing about living in Brazil.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]You should not have paid as you did not get 40 minutes. Simple as that. Or, according to their business logic, pro rate the session and take off a 25% discount and a further discount for not cumming. Then hand them a bill for your time and travel expenses that day.
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I'd have done as Mangera did. No sense in being a hero and maybe getting beat or robbed for the balance of the money. Just make a raucous, pay, tell 50 people, and don't go back.
In P4P, regardless of country, it's a shady business with shady people. If one spends enough time mongering, you begin to think that you're dealing with 'real' people that you can hold to your normal standards, but that's a delusion... I wouldn't expect normal business thought processes or standards from pimps and hos. Trust no one and be pleasantly surprised everytime you don't get ripped off.
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]That's so true!!!!!!! Even the other GDP's will talk shit if they think you're with a dog.
ryjer[/QUOTE]Such is life, you are better off with a 5 who treats you like a king than a 10 that treats you like shit.
Life is a trick, the unobtainable is always more attractive. Sometimes the obtainable will surprise you.
I’ve been doing this for nearly 40 years some of the most beautiful girls are the ugliest people. Some ugly girls are the most beautiful people. What has changed is some of the mongers I come across now are borderline sociopath, zero respect for consequence. Photos, chronological detail, it’s like watching NCIS find the perp’s stash.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Check the dates, you moron. Your quote was dated 10/13/09. My nearly identical quote was dated 9/12/09, and I made a very similar one way back on 8/26/04. Therefore my quote was first and you, consciously, or unconsciously, stole it from me.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm, I guess you and I won't get together and have a beer soon, then? I am crushed :D
I didn't know you were so emotionally attached to your oatmeal phrase. All I was saying was that PP remembered correctly that I had made that remark on this board. I never claimed to have invented that phrase, nor do I claim the invention of oatmeal.
But ... if you have trademarked this phrase and I therefore "stole it" from you (as you claim above), then please accept my sincere apologies. Further, please pm me your real name and address, and I am going to be sure to cut you a check with a percentage of all of my earnings derived from using the phrase "drooling in my oatmeal" on this board. ;)
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I thought it was Al Gore who first said the oatmeal phrase? Didn't he say "one day when we're all drooling in our oatmeal, all we will remember is that I invented the internet?" [QUOTE=Euro100]Hmmm, I guess you and I won't get together and have a beer soon, then? I am crushed :D
I didn't know you were so emotionally attached to your oatmeal phrase. All I was saying was that PP remembered correctly that I had made that remark on this board. I never claimed to have invented that phrase, nor do I claim the invention of oatmeal.
But ... if you have trademarked this phrase and I therefore "stole it" from you (as you claim above), then please accept my sincere apologies. Further, please pm me your real name and address, and I am going to be sure to cut you a check with a percentage of all of my earnings derived from using the phrase "drooling in my oatmeal" on this board. ;)[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Rikkit2]
Ah, the hidden costs of those freebies with Suzy. She showed up pretty much on time on her day off, with her bambino. We ate, walked the beach, saw the latest Shrek cartoon. A pretty nice date overall. Then she was off to home with the little tyke.
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:). This Suzy is running a tight game. First she laid down the law that you aren't to fuck any of the other girls, now she's having you do father-figure stuff.
How does she introduce you to the kid? 'This man makes boom-boom with mama so you can have nice food and clothes'? Thinking back, such a situation would have seemed quite odd when I was a kid, to have strange foreign man attending a movie..but maybe Carioca kids are used to mamas hanging out with foreigners and see us as benefactors, which would be right!
CJW, no, I think it was that one day when we are all drooling in our oatmeal we should remember that he won the popular vote. I hope Estados Unidos is a distant memory for me at that time, and I'm off basking somewhere that has cheap poon and low moral standards. Eating my oatmeal off the breasts of some 20 yr old housegirl..and drooling.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I wouldn't expect normal business thought processes or standards from pimps and hos. Trust no one and be pleasantly surprised everytime you don't get ripped off.[/QUOTE]
enough said, and well put!!!!!!!!
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Euro100]But ... if you have trademarked this phrase and I therefore "stole it" from you (as you claim above), then please accept my sincere apologies. Further, please pm me your real name and address, and I am going to be sure to cut you a check with a percentage of all of my earnings derived from using the phrase "drooling in my oatmeal" on this board. ;)[/QUOTE]
This is some funny shit..........................His address is below. He can be found there most evenings after 10pm.
Vila Mimosa
Rua Ceará - Pça. da Bandeira
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Fred100]
I’ve been doing this for nearly 40 years some of the most beautiful girls are the ugliest people. Some ugly girls are the most beautiful people. What has changed is some of the mongers I come across now are borderline sociopath, zero respect for consequence. Photos, chronological detail, it’s like watching NCIS find the perp’s stash.[/QUOTE]
Well, this is the NCIS of mongering..times, places, names, photos.
Maybe you see a difference because the monger of Brasil in times past was just there for cheap fun and the girls were service oriented and actually interested in gringos in a personal sense, as a way to a better life. Even 5 years ago, I found that to be true. I remember girls in SP who would stick to guys like glue all night, even if they weren't promising a session. They were were interested in immigration elsewhere with gringos that had their lives straight and a decent bank account. Most were probably gold diggers, but perhaps some were genuinely interested in someplace other than Brasil. Today, I don't see any interest in leaving Brasil. On my recent trip, out of 21 girls, I heard only 1 sob story about poverty and family in some village in the boonies, from Gabrielle at Florida. And even she didn't seem to work very hard at getting sessions, let alone trying to get to know anyone. Totally different from 2005, every girl was from some crap town with a kid and mama who supposedly are in poverty, and wanted to know all about the mongers: where from, what do you do, do you have a girlfriend, what are you doing tomorrow. Same kind of stuff that is reported in the Phillipines today.
Now, it's just a job for them and mostly they float from guy to guy trying to collect as many ST's as possible. If they offer contact info or to meet outside, it's because they know it leads to more cash. It's like watching NCIS find the perp's stash, or the gringo's cash :) So now it's sport both ways. They really don't need the money, else they'd push for TLN+ like old days, and fewer mongers really need them. A lot of guys come on business trips now due to growth in Brasil and have normal girls at home, so don't care about GDP personalities outside the bed like a expat or sex tourist might. Rather, just sex them and post them NCIS style so that others can find the good and avoid the bad. So maybe this explains the difference for you.
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Every girl I talked to mentioned green cards, visa, etc... I asked Mansella in L'Uomo what music she liked and she said yes I'd like a visa lol. Bit of a freudian slip. She told me all about the difficulties of getting a visa. Lily talked about it to, but they all talked about so much it's a little hazy. Damn I'm already forgetting... except something about Al Gore.
But the other thing they mentioned was pride in Brazilia, or Minas Geriath or wherever they happened to come from, and they also all seemed proud to be Brazilian, in the world cup, etc.
So I guess order of precedence 1) Safado 2) visa 3) local area 4) Brazil
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Well, this is the NCIS of mongering..times, places, names, photos.
Maybe you see a difference because the monger of Brasil in times past was just there for cheap fun and the girls were service oriented and actually interested in gringos in a personal sense, as a way to a better life. Even 5 years ago, I found that to be true. I remember girls in SP who would stick to guys like glue all night, even if they weren't promising a session. They were were interested in immigration elsewhere with gringos that had their lives straight and a decent bank account. Most were probably gold diggers, but perhaps some were genuinely interested in someplace other than Brasil. Today, I don't see any interest in leaving Brasil. On my recent trip, out of 21 girls, I heard only 1 sob story about poverty and family in some village in the boonies, from Gabrielle at Florida. And even she didn't seem to work very hard at getting sessions, let alone trying to get to know anyone. Totally different from 2005, every girl was from some crap town with a kid and mama who supposedly are in poverty, and wanted to know all about the mongers: where from, what do you do, do you have a girlfriend, what are you doing tomorrow. Same kind of stuff that is reported in the Phillipines today.
Now, it's just a job for them and mostly they float from guy to guy trying to collect as many ST's as possible. If they offer contact info or to meet outside, it's because they know it leads to more cash. It's like watching NCIS find the perp's stash, or the gringo's cash :) So now it's sport both ways. They really don't need the money, else they'd push for TLN+ like old days, and fewer mongers really need them. A lot of guys come on business trips now due to growth in Brasil and have normal girls at home, so don't care about GDP personalities outside the bed like a expat or sex tourist might. Rather, just sex them and post them NCIS style so that others can find the good and avoid the bad. So maybe this explains the difference for you.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Well, this is the NCIS of mongering..times, places, names, photos.
Maybe you see a difference because the monger of Brasil in times past was just there for cheap fun and the girls were service oriented and actually interested in gringos in a personal sense, as a way to a better life. Even 5 years ago, I found that to be true. I remember girls in SP who would stick to guys like glue all night, even if they weren't promising a session. They were were interested in immigration elsewhere with gringos that had their lives straight and a decent bank account. Most were probably gold diggers, but perhaps some were genuinely interested in someplace other than Brasil. Today, I don't see any interest in leaving Brasil. On my recent trip, out of 21 girls, I heard only 1 sob story about poverty and family in some village in the boonies, from Gabrielle at Florida. And even she didn't seem to work very hard at getting sessions, let alone trying to get to know anyone. Totally different from 2005, every girl was from some crap town with a kid and mama who supposedly are in poverty, and wanted to know all about the mongers: where from, what do you do, do you have a girlfriend, what are you doing tomorrow. Same kind of stuff that is reported in the Phillipines today.
Now, it's just a job for them and mostly they float from guy to guy trying to collect as many ST's as possible. If they offer contact info or to meet outside, it's because they know it leads to more cash. It's like watching NCIS find the perp's stash, or the gringo's cash :) So now it's sport both ways. They really don't need the money, else they'd push for TLN+ like old days, and fewer mongers really need them. A lot of guys come on business trips now due to growth in Brasil and have normal girls at home, so don't care about GDP personalities outside the bed like a expat or sex tourist might. Rather, just sex them and post them NCIS style so that others can find the good and avoid the bad. So maybe this explains the difference for you.[/QUOTE]An interesting perspective, if a little cold. Rio has always been a sex destination it's the mongers that have changed it. The world got very small over the last forty years. The changes in travel technology and travel marketing gave the capability of leisure world travel to the masses. Fortunately most mongers from those first world countries stay on the the well trodden paths. In the case of Rio Copa and centro some might venture out to Barra. Unfortunately as with all things of volume there will always be the dregs at the bottom of the barrel (bigger barrel, more dregs). A very very few of the mongers that fall in the category of dregs, I'm not even sure what they are doing can even be described as sex. Not referring to anyone on this board, I'm talking about the ones I've met.
If you pick the time of day right. You can drive a couple of hours out of Rio and there are some great little towns with plenty going on. You do need to speak Portuguese to a reasonable level to enjoy this. Also what towns, venues and when is best to arrive.
I arrive in Rio on Wednesday, a little bit of work for three weeks. Doubt I will visit any of the commercial sex houses (sometimes get dragged along with colleagues. Damn it to Hell!). As I've got older I don't like to be numbered and wrapped in a bathrobe (Anybody remember the sixties TV show "The Prisoner". "I am not a number I am a human being"). Probably stay with the old favorites this trip. I will then spend two weeks driving up to Salvador. Done this drive many times over the years, great fun. Will stop and visit a few friends along the way.
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[QUOTE=Helprules]I only went to Rio antigo once. It was so bad that I never went again. The girls looked like the ones at the apartment termas that I can't stand. Aeroporto and Cancun were ok places that are worth a second look, but antigo was a horror show. Maybe it has changed since I went a few years ago. Are you saying Antigo is now on par with 4x4, mc, and, luomo? 3 or 4 years is a long time. I guess I can give it one more shot when I'm back in Brazil.[/QUOTE]
The point was that it is now closed. It got shut down by the cops in a raid a few years back and I think that sent it down hill. It was on a par with the top Termas a number of years ago in my opinion, but I have only been a couple of times since the closing. I always found something i liked, but the average quality had gone down. My guess is that police hassles put them in a downward spiral. People are afraid to go and so they can't attract the best talent.
Don't know. But it seems to be one less option now.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I'd have done as Mangera did. No sense in being a hero and maybe getting beat or robbed for the balance of the money. Just make a raucous, pay, tell 50 people, and don't go back.
In P4P, regardless of country, it's a shady business with shady people. If one spends enough time mongering, you begin to think that you're dealing with 'real' people that you can hold to your normal standards, but that's a delusion. I wouldn't expect normal business thought processes or standards from pimps and hos. Trust no one and be pleasantly surprised everytime you don't get ripped off.[/QUOTE]Would ya? You mean to say after your may lengthy reports about venturing all over Rio to find cheap women that would do your very specific checklist of action items (or you would not session) that you would have simply just paid for something you did not receive? And after all your reports about venturing around Centro's dark streets in the middel of the night that you would have feared being robbed or beat up in a high-end terma in a good neighborhood?
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[QUOTE=Fred100]Such is life, you are better off with a 5 who treats you like a king than a 10 that treats you like shit.
Life is a trick, the unobtainable is always more attractive. Sometimes the obtainable will surprise you.
I’ve been doing this for nearly 40 years some of the most beautiful girls are the ugliest people. Some ugly girls are the most beautiful people. What has changed is some of the mongers I come across now are borderline sociopath, zero respect for consequence. Photos, chronological detail, it’s like watching NCIS find the perp’s stash.[/QUOTE]Fred,
I have to say again that I admire your efforts to discuss some important topics here (safe sex, caution in self-medicating, being respectful, etc.). But, unfortunately, I believe you are correct in your observations on mongerers' attitudes and demands. And I don't think you change affect change here. No one eants to think about the consequences of their actions anymore. It is all about intsnt gratification (look at the mess the economy is in in the US).
Funny how many guys here think they have Brazil all figured out. They like to put things under labels "third world business practices", "all women now have this attitude". That is a big part of the problem, people are not open to using their own minds and making their own opinions on a case by case basis. (This is why guys like Glen Beck and the Teabaggers have a voice). But let's face it, some mongerers have issues that don't allow them to function real well in the real world. For Christ sakes, 2 morons are arguing on and on about who used a mediocre phrase first on this forum. I also have guys PMing me (unsolicated) telling me who to talk to and trust here, and who to avoid. Like fucking grade school clicks. It is actually important for some guys here to be seen as the witty experts to a small band of aging and sociopath misfits here. I could never accept one guy's opinion of a woman because I may be very different then that guy and get a totally different vibe from her. I remember early on reading a review on a GDP and my experience was the total opposite.
I am happy I created my piece of REAL heaven in Brazil and am out. I suspect there are many here that would not have that option because of who they have become. But fascinating topics to explore in media projects.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]The point was that it is now closed. It got shut down by the cops in a raid a few years back and I think that sent it down hill. It was on a par with the top Termas a number of years ago in my opinion, but I have only been a couple of times since the closing. I always found something i liked, but the average quality had gone down. My guess is that police hassles put them in a downward spiral. People are afraid to go and so they can't attract the best talent.
Don't know. But it seems to be one less option now.[/QUOTE]
That's a shame to hear. I loved the facilities at Rio Antigo. Last time I was there (May 2009) the selection was pretty weak but the facilities remained great.
Any time a higher profile Terma closes it is bad for the market, IMHO, as it means less supply / less competition. This inevitably impacts the remaining T's -- when demand is relatively constant, and there's less supply, price goes higher.
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caipira
you'll have to forgive me for not knowing about this particular event, but then some locals are not so keen on it either. anyway, any excuse for a party. l'uomo and mc both had dress-up events for the girls. the crew in l'uomo was having a great time despite the fact that only 4 or 5 guys were there. dancing like crazy, dressed up as sort of hill billys. actually they looked great -- some had obviously taken the time to find a really good outfit. especially alluring was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url], looking like a baby doll in her "county" outfit. didn't go to mc but hear they had it going on too.
stopped in at balcony at about 12:30 sat. night and the report of its demise is definitely premature. very mixed crowd, lots of different levels, but i clicked on a stunner and, taking my own advice to move quickly, since no tables were available, i walked up on the sidewalk, introduced myself and after a short conversation, invited her back to my place. she was skeptical at such a quick move, but after a little conversation she agreed. i agreed to r400 which is about double what i would normally go for, but then, this was special.
she was a little aloof but after getting comfortable with me, she transmogrified. total gfe beyond your dreams. now the bad news. because of this family day everybody is celebrating today, she was going to a family barbeque. i offered to go with, but that got a big laugh.
just when you think you can't be surprised, it happens again.
i post this just to say, don't write off balcony.
also, another venerable institution bites the dust: mabs is closed. maybe i mentioned this before, but this is a stunning development because it was sort of the original "ground zero" in copa some years back. i don't like the trend (in no particular order):
mabs closed
flavia closed in centro
help closed
rio antigo closed
mc closed on sundays
can someone please offset this with great news about new places that have opened? i don't know of any.
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I thought Monte Carlo was always closed on sunday's. The only terma open on sunday's is L'uomos. At least that is the way i remember it. But still the entire closing thing Sucks.
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Mabs
[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Also, another venerable institution bites the dust: Mabs is closed. Maybe I mentioned this before, but this is a stunning development because it was sort of the original "ground zero" in Copa some years back.
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Your statement could be read to mean that Mabs has gone out of business. I heard that Mabs was closed for renovations and would reopen under new management in a few months. Did you hear that Mabs was gone for good?
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]...I agreed to R400 which is about double what I would normally go for, but then, this was special...[/QUOTE]
Let's hope she will not share with other girls she got 400 reais at Balcony in winter time or....soon Balcony girls will have higher rates than when Help was yet open.....considering they do not pay entrance at Balcony, I guess now girls are more than happy Help is gone....
Yeah, Rio is really changing a LOT....imho.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Bubba, I know you're nostalgic of the JW Bush era, but let me tell you once more that calling frenchs "eurotrash" is no more politically correct nowadays.[/QUOTE]Ah, but calling certain kinds of French "eurotrash" is still completely acceptable.
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[QUOTE=The Watcher]Your statement could be read to mean that Mabs has gone out of business. I heard that Mabs was closed for renovations and would reopen under new management in a few months. Did you hear that Mabs was gone for good?[/QUOTE]
Good point. I don't know that any of them (with the exception of Help) are gone for good. I have asked a couple of cab drivers about Mabs but they didn't know. So maybe it is just renovation, but in Rio that can take a long time.
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Rikkit2 Days 8, 9, 10
Day 8 – Friday Slumming in Copa
Fernanda spends the AM with me. We hit the local crepes shop for breakfast and part ways at noon, with the understanding that she comes back at 8 PM.
BrSp and I got together, and waltzed thru Club 53, which is under the same management as Bar 22. They have identical policies, and the girls move back and forth between the two places. There was one doable girl, and Natalia, cute, doable, but not repeatable.
We walked over to the massage place and the adjacent prive. Both had do-able girls.
Session 1 – I picked Gabi, who seemed to have a good attitude, and was a nice, tight spinner. She was an upsell for BBBJ and completa, which made the session about R120 for 40 minutes. She did a good job with the BBBJ, and we marched thru a few positions before I took her anally. Since it was an upsell, I made sure that I god my money's worth. Despite being a spinner, she had no problem with a pretty rough porn session. She let me finish BBBJCIM.
I doubled back to meet with Fernanda, my rookie GDP. Unfortunately, Renata showed up with her roomate, wanting to party with me. As a GDP newcomer, Fernanda didn't take the unexpected company well, and bailed, leaving me with the two younger women. Veterans would have stripped, crawled into bed, and waited for the party to begin. Fortunately, Fernanda's departure ended up being a very very good thing.
Session 2 – Renata arrived first, and we were going at it pretty good, when Brenda showed up, cleaned up, and dove in. Brenda, a 9 face, 9 hair, 8 body (9 with a c-section scar), and a 10 attitude. She has a spinner body, but as small as she is, has full full perky see cups (young, no kids, and it shows). She is one good looking woman. The girls were comfortable kissing one another, and generally were playful throughout the session. We switched back and forth between focusing on one girl or the other. In some positions, I got a BBBJ while working other girl. The only time they double teamed me was during the dedicated BBBJ sessions. They were not afraid to be expressive, to be anally penetrated, etc. In front of one another. It was a very nice night, about 2. 5 hours.
I woke up with a raging hard-on at about 5 AM, and Brenda pounced on me like she hadn't had sex for a month. It was much more intense than a few hours earlier, with true porn anal at the end. She finished me off BBBJCIM, and it was like she needed my come. Her technique was "best I have ever had", and her energy level was contagious. If I am stranded on a desert island with one woman, I want that woman to be Brenda. The girls were out the door the next morning bright and early, with both expressing their desire for a rematch.
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Day 9 – Saturday Slumming in Niteroi w/ Brazil Specialist
I met Theresa, who was visiting a mutual friend. She is a good looking woman in face and body, and very new to the trade. R150 for two hours. I was going to Niteroi, so a 2 hour session was not in the cards. She wanted R500 for TLN. Not worth it for an untried newbie, but this is part of the R1/minute philosophy the girls learn as they go into the industry. I will have to aim for a short session during the weekday sometime next week.
Niteroi – we set sail across the channel, bought some "here pretty girl, want some candy? " chocolate, and marched around a vertical version of VM. Each establishment varies in atmosphere, volume, etc. Some were air conditioned in the back, some fully airconed, some none at all. Some had clean restrooms and a nice shower, some sucked big time. Bringing your own bed sheet makes sense, as well as your own towel. Wear flip flops and shorts – they are easier to deal with as you drag your crap back for the shower. Generally, they are dark, loud, hot, crowded, with one to 5 woman going from solid 3's to in the 8's or higher face/body but rarely both at the same time. The local guys seemed to like the chubbier better endowed women. As I hunt spinner-class, that works just fine. The local guys sometimes marched around with their backpacks full of "kit", so that did not mark us as gringos. I saw no other obvious gringos the entire trip.
Could you boff multiple girls without a shower in between? Sure, but since I like BBBJ and completa, I feel compelled to clean up between sessions. I want the girl enthusiastic, not dragging her ass.
We passed on doable girls early on, and as the day turned to evening, the number of locals skyrocketed. The ratio of guys to girls, super-crowded rooms, it was time to move on. Lesson learned – the place is big enough that you are probably not going to double back. At n+5 pricing, just have fun groping the girl or whatever, and move on. Interestingly, some places actually jacked the price up from n+5 at the 30 minute mark. This definitely discourages guys like me that like longer sessions and more foreplay. So with no further ado.
Session 1 – Susy Not completa, no BBBJ. But she was a very cute spinner, so we slipped on a raincoat and I nailed her for 25 minutes, mainly using her high bed to work her over missionary with me standing. Was it my usual cup of tea? No. Was I ever going to get off covered after the week I have had to date? No. But it was definitely worth the R25 price. I gave her a small tip, just a few Real.
Session 2 – Mia Completa, BBBJ. Face was average (6. 5), body was smoking. Time is short in these places, so we moved directly to anal. She took me cowgirl, and it was an effort. Nice view, especially of her face as she worked herself down on me. Hot! But after about 20 strokes, moved over to lazy doggie. Suddenly, it's incredibly tight for me and comfortable for her. The petite spinner took it like a champ. She finished me BBBJCIM, and waltzed thru the post-session clean-up effort trying not to swallow. I gave her a nice tip for superior effort (R30).
Session 3 – Pati Not completa, but a solid BBBJ. After Mia, she was the ticket to a relaxing "cool down" session. She wanted to boff, but Mia made sure that I needed a reset period before that was going to happen with a cover on. Nice face, solid body, great eye contact throughout the BBBJ, decent technique. She had a good time rooting thru my collection of toys and lubes. She wanted to shave my penis (sorry girl, not happening with a GDP), but was happy to dump cherry lube on and go to town. I would not probably do her again, but it was worth doing once.
If the apartments at Niterol had A/C, cut their jukebox volume in half, stocked soda instead of just cervesa, and had nice clean-up facilities, I could see being a regular just for variety's sake. For less than the cost of a session at L'omo's, I sessioned three times for 1. 5 hours. And paid for the taxi, the ferry, the chocolate, all of my drinks, all of my tips, etc. There was no preliminary make-out session, just boffing in the back room. Style-wise, I prefer 4x4, where you have to work to find a girl that is not dirty/sexy/nasty in all sorts of good ways.
Session 4 – side trip over to L'uomo's to session with Suzy. It was a nice rough session, more focused on me than her. She took to the toy I brought along nicely. I finished the standard way, BBBJCIM.
Session 5 – I spent the night with Renata solo, and it was sensational. I let her know up front that I wanted sex in the AM as well, and that she should take that into account as she planned her wake-up time. She agreed, R250 TLN, double session. I focused on straight sex in the PM, where we went for 1. 5 hours, and anal in the AM for about 50 minutes. She was very responsive, and came many times. She is now comfortable with my using toys with her. For guys that are into that type of thing, she could be trained into a squirter. She gets wet enough, but when she comes, she just releases a wave of liquid rather than shooting an ounce into the guy's mouth. She did leave a nice puddle on the sheets (better remember to tip the cleaning woman well). She really gets into the GFE sex.
Renata is on Youtube, in several videos, just search against CM Renata. Her favorite appearance is in this video. [url]http://www.Youtube.com/watch? V=EzMlckI7vX4[/url]. She is the woman in the red outfit. Laughing, I give you a fair warning as well. Renata is the only GDP in Brazil that has a clock and is not afraid to use it. She was pretty much on time every time she was supposed to come over.
Day 10 – Sunday Laid back with the Regulars
This is short and sweet. Well at least all the women involved are! I didn't finish up with Renata until about 1130, which seemed to make the day go by so very fast.
Session 1 – went to L'uomo's to see Suzy. It was a nice two and a half hour make-out session punctuated by a cabine private intermission. Suzy is wonderful.
Session 2 – met up with Racing team Renata/Brenda at 1115. The girls were in the mood to party. I had already showered, and was in a t-shirt and loose shorts. Brenda's We spent two hours looking around downtown, then hopping over to Dolce Vita, above Balcony Bar. The live music/club scene is pretty quiet on a Sunday. The girls ended up being cheap dates, and had a good time dancing and grinding. Even riding around in the taxi was fun when boxed between two sets of gorgeous gams. Brenda was far more aggressive in dancing, grinding, even flashing her ample breasts as she flirted. With Renata, it was much more of a normal date.
We ended up in my place, knowing that the girls were going to pile out the door at 0900. Brenda was the first girl out of the shower, which allowed me to focus on her for awhile. She is much more responsive and sensitive. Getting Renata off is a marathon; Brenda will sprint with the right techniques. Or toys. Or enough foreplay. Or. You get the idea. Brenda is very attractive in both the face and body, so it is a visual treat when she rides cowgirl.
The girls interacted with above the waist enthusiasm, which is still pretty fun. We played with the toys much more extensively, and I had the girls touching each other's pussy more experimentally. Both girls got off multiple times, and I came close to popping inside Brenda, which shows how tight she is. The double BBBJCIM finish was out of this world fun. These girls are into it. Brenda is in the top three BJ women I've been with solo, and the extra set of hands and tongue are awesome. They staggered to bed after 90 minutes. Then again, an early morning hard-on got Brenda excited and off we went at around 5 AM. When I am sleepy, I am much more into straight pounding the girl. Lazy doggie, missionary, legs over shoulder, anal lazy. She was pleased with my focused performance, and after getting off twice, she gave me a solo BBBJCIM. This girl is liquid sex. One night, I want to see if she will try to keep up with me all night. She seems to have the right attitude to make it a lot of fun to try!
I woke them up at 0920, and they staggered out the door twenty minutes later promising to be the evening's entertainment on Monday, and to be packed for beach-going Tuesday. Brenda wants a two girl photo shoot as well, which is good, as I have no pictures of either woman at this point.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Fred,
I am happy I created my piece of REAL heaven in Brazil and am out. I suspect there are many here that would not have that option because of who they have become. But fascinating topics to explore in media projects.[/QUOTE]Yes I am definitely flogging a dead horse here. I don't know why I expected any different. Being a monger has never been a particularly honorable life style. I am glad to say there are still many mongers out there that have enough heart and life experience to be able to set their boundary's without the need to dehumanize the prostitutes to get off. Unfortunately the few low life tar us all with the same brush.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Good point. I don't know that any of them (with the exception of Help) are gone for good. I have asked a couple of cab drivers about Mabs but they didn't know. So maybe it is just renovation, but in Rio that can take a long time.[/QUOTE]Franks seems to be gone for good. There's a big, fat "too rent" sign on its door.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Fred,
I have to say again that I admire your efforts to discuss some important topics here (safe sex, caution in self-medicating, being respectful, etc.). But, unfortunately, I believe you are correct in your observations on mongerers' attitudes and demands. And I don't think you change affect change here. No one eants to think about the consequences of their actions anymore. It is all about intsnt gratification (look at the mess the economy is in in the US).
Funny how many guys here think they have Brazil all figured out. They like to put things under labels "third world business practices", "all women now have this attitude". That is a big part of the problem, people are not open to using their own minds and making their own opinions on a case by case basis. (This is why guys like Glen Beck and the Teabaggers have a voice). But let's face it, some mongerers have issues that don't allow them to function real well in the real world. For Christ sakes, 2 morons are arguing on and on about who used a mediocre phrase first on this forum. I also have guys PMing me (unsolicated) telling me who to talk to and trust here, and who to avoid. Like fucking grade school clicks. It is actually important for some guys here to be seen as the witty experts to a small band of aging and sociopath misfits here. I could never accept one guy's opinion of a woman because I may be very different then that guy and get a totally different vibe from her. I remember early on reading a review on a GDP and my experience was the total opposite.
I am happy I created my piece of REAL heaven in Brazil and am out. I suspect there are many here that would not have that option because of who they have become. But fascinating topics to explore in media projects.[/QUOTE]One of the best posts I've read here in a while.
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Niteroi - New Jack City raid
[QUOTE=Rikkit2]
Day 9 – Saturday Slumming in Niteroi w/ Brazil Specialist
..Niteroi – we set sail across the channel, bought some "here pretty girl, want some candy? " chocolate, and marched around a vertical version of VM. Each establishment varies in atmosphere, volume, etc. Some were air conditioned in the back, some fully airconed, some none at all. Some had clean restrooms and a nice shower, some sucked big time. Bringing your own bed sheet makes sense, as well as your own towel. Wear flip flops and shorts – they are easier to deal with as you drag your crap back for the shower. Generally, they are dark, loud, hot, crowded, with one to 5 woman going from solid 3's to in the 8's or higher face/body but rarely both at the same time. The local guys seemed to like the chubbier better endowed women. As I hunt spinner-class, that works just fine. The local guys sometimes marched around with their backpacks full of "kit", so that did not mark us as gringos. I saw no other obvious gringos the entire trip..
Session 1 – Susy Not completa, no BBBJ. But she was a very cute spinner, so we slipped on a raincoat and I nailed her for 25 minutes, ..
Session 2 – Mia Completa, BBBJ. Face was average (6. 5), body was smoking. Time is short in these places, so we moved directly to anal. .. I gave her a nice tip for superior effort (R30)…
Session 3 – Pati Not completa, but a solid BBBJ.. I would not probably do her again, but it was worth doing once..
For less than the cost of a session at L'omo's, I sessioned three times for 1. 5 hours. And paid for the taxi, the ferry, the chocolate, all of my drinks, all of my tips, etc. There was no preliminary make-out session, just boffing in the back room. Style-wise, I prefer 4x4, where you have to work to find a girl that is not dirty/sexy/nasty in all sorts of good ways…
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O Dia reported yesterday that the father and son proprietors of the casa at Amaral Peixoto 327, Niterói Centro were cited by police this week on charges of “ruffianism” and running a house of prostitution. The owners of the brothel were splitting the fees with the garotas receiving 60% and the owners 40% for programas ranging from R$ 20 to R$ 120. The facilities were described as absolutely unhealthy conditions.
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[QUOTE=Crusader560]I thought Monte Carlo was always closed on sunday's. The only terma open on sunday's is L'uomos. At least that is the way i remember it. But still the entire closing thing Sucks.[/QUOTE]
No, it is definitely open on Sundays but not after July. Seems like it was not a number of years ago, but I can't remember. It may come back when high season gets here. Also, for anybody interested, last time I checked, Centauras was open on Sunday, too.
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]O Dia reported yesterday that the father and son proprietors of the casa at Amaral Peixoto 327, Niterói Centro were cited by police this week on charges of “ruffianism” and running a house of prostitution. The owners of the brothel were splitting the fees with the garotas receiving 60% and the owners 40% for programas ranging from R$ 20 to R$ 120. The facilities were described as absolutely unhealthy conditions.[/QUOTE]NOOOOOOOO. Say it ain't so. What a crock. I wasn't even there trying to be healthy. I was there so the garotas could make me skeet! Brazil has really become an undesirable mongering destination. I guess 85 and VM will be on the chopping block next.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]NOOOOOOOO. Say it ain't so. What a crock. I wasn't even there trying to be healthy. I was there so the garotas could make me skeet! Brazil has really become an undesirable mongering destination. I guess 85 and VM will be on the chopping block next.[/QUOTE]
Your guess is on the mark. VM is slated to be razed and become a station for the new fast train from Sao Paulo. Additionally a modern park has been designed to be built on the spot. No word on 85 yet. ;(
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Rikkit2 Day 11 – Back to 4X4
The girls are out the door, and I, being a mongering wimp (or wise) devoted the next three hours of my life to taking a nap. Suzy stopped by to chat on the way to work, but it was a platonic house call. Vanessa, a friend of a friend, was supposedly inbound at 4:30 but was a no-show at 6. Without worrying about whether she would show up later, I took off for 4x4, which is still my favorite terma. The subway crush was still on. Go early, go late, but during rush hour, the subway sucks.
Session 1 – Monique, 7. 5 face, full spinner-class.completa. We did some quality foreplay, but forewent straight sex for anal. Based on my preliminary touches, she was willing, but a rookie. This was going to take some time. She was good to her word and let me inside, but it was a very tight ride. She is the first girl that used the desensitizer, and then only after two good attempts using my high quality lube. I made sure that I wasn't too rough with this one; she was pleased that I didn't push her along. Once inside, it was a gentle affair, with slow strokes and hands gliding all over her body. We finished BBBJ, but I was shooting blanks. Surprisingly, she came across very GFE after we moved back to touching and cuddling. She allowed sexy photos as long as I do not publish those that include her face. Pics over in the pictures thread.
Session 2 – Bia, 7 face, bunda girl with bigger thighs. She is not my type, but after the last session, I was in the mood for rough anal. Bia came through with flying colors. The girl went gaga over GFE caressing, DATY, and frottage, but was not big into French kissing. Once we switched gears, she was more than willing to gobble up my full length and after a settling in period allowed me to pound her porn style. She was the only girl so far to use her legs against the wall to brace herself so that she could be boned harder – it was a Porn Star quality experience. Bia was not afraid to play with herself and got off on the drilling. Finished BBBJCIM. She allowed sexy photos that did not include her face. Pics over in the pictures thread.
Session 3 – the Renata/Brenda racing team was over. First we grabbed a bite to eat. Then we hit Bar 22 for a birthday celebration. Surprisingly, I was not the gringo sugar daddy paying for the party. We waled in, kissed everyone hello, the girls talked for 15 minutes, we kissed everyone goodbye, and off we went. Renata paid for the food, Brenda paid the taxi to the club. A GFE paid for something?! These are good girls, and we have blurred the line between GDP and boyfriend status via multiple sessions. Since I am with both more often than not, neither is getting territorial. This arrangement is about as good as it gets.
Once back in the room, Brenda was warming me up and wearing me out as Renata finished cleaning up. Brenda continues to be an instigator, and likes to be fucked hard, so I can't say that we do the classic foreplay anymore. It is more a free-for-all, with Brenda coming before I escape to the shower. Once back, life is good. Brenda is getting fuzzy (no, she is not a natural blonde) and so I let her shave me and then I shave her. With a quick class for Renata on how to stroke a woman's pussy, we teamed up on Brenda, me licking and Renata fingering, and got Brenda and her newly shaven pussy off nicely. Since I am trying to knock down some walls between the girls, I chose to put Brenda in Renata's lap, then pound Brenda missionary. Brenda liked it, but driving deep was a little to contortional for this monger. So I slid Brenda up higher. Renata did a good job stroking, kissing Brenda and staying involved as Brenda blasted off again. We switched to me munching on Renata, and Brenda playing with her first pussy. Brenda was much happier when I upgraded her to a toy. We worked hard, but got Renata off hard.
Then Brenda and I sandwitched Renata, with me giving her a mixture of frottage and a straight fuck, then showing her how she can get off rubbing against my knee/upper thigh. Swith over to Brenda, and then pull out and let the girls get one another off lesbo legs intertwined style. Brenda raced to the finish line with no problem. We then sandwiched Brenda, with me behind lazy doggie, and I got my completa trick. Finished to a four hand two mouth BBBJCIM, and we all retired to the showers.
As usual, there was an early morning session with Brenda. She woke up spooning with me, and reached back to see if I was hard or not. Nope. So she licks her palm, gets me hard, and stuffs me inside. This kicked off a pretty intense 30 minute hard fucking session that went through the usual litany of positions. My favorite was doggie, with Brenda's face bumping into the crack of Renata's ass on every stroke. Okay, so I lied. My favorite was porn star fucking Brenda's ass lazy doggie while she played with her pussy and got off yet again. We finished BBBJCIM. The girl has great technique, and always attacks my cum like she is starving.
The girls bumped out of the door – the day was not that great for going to the beach, so the girls are rescheduling for tomorrow. Brenda posed for some nice photos, and I promised we'd work on better pictures on Tuesday night. I will ask for permission to post a photo of her in the name of the fine institution of mongering.
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Centaurus Open On Sunday?
[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill] Also, for anybody interested, last time I checked, Centauras was open on Sunday, too.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure it was Centaurus that is open on Sunday? I have never heard of Centaurus being open on Sunday; however, as my uncle often told me, the things that I have never heard of will make a world bigger than this one.
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Centaurus
I believe Centaurus has never been open on Sunday. It certainly is not open on Sundays now.
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[QUOTE=Rikkit2]She finished me BBBJCIM, and waltzed thru the post-session clean-up effort trying not to swallow. [/QUOTE]Whenever a woman (pro or non-pro) tries this bs I like to tickle them until they are forced to swallow. It makes no sense at all that they would swallow the elephant then turn around and choke on the tail. Not to mention the disrespect of spitting out all of my could-have-been filhos.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Whenever a woman (pro or non-pro) tries this bs I like to tickle them until they are forced to swallow. It makes no sense at all that they would swallow the elephant then turn around and choke on the tail. Not to mention the disrespect of spitting out all of my could-have-been filhos.[/QUOTE]
Before you get flamed by mongers who are in touch with their feminine side... Yes, this is a good tatic! If you went DATY on a garota and started spitting pussy juice all over the place...it wouldn't go over so well in reverse. I wanted to do this at NS Copa 583 last year, but I'm too nice to disrespect a girl like that, even if she's a cheap ho.
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Very nice reports Rikkit! That Brenda-Renata duo seems a ton of fun. Sorry if I missed it, but where did you pick up these 2? And how much was the cachê for these 3somes?
Thanks man and keep'em coming those great reports.
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[QUOTE=Sprite13]Very nice reports Rikkit! That Brenda-Renata duo seems a ton of fun. Sorry if I missed it, but where did you pick up these 2? And how much was the cachê for these 3somes?
Thanks man and keep'em coming those great reports.[/QUOTE]
they were friends of mine. Renata happened to show up for a short visit exactly when rikkit showed up. they were both standing at my front door at the same time. Hilarious .........
A little spamming: contact me before coming to Rio! I try to be helpful with info, enjoy meeting fellow mongers, I do rent rooms at my apartment, sometimes take people along to where I monger, and appreciate help in bringing occasional shopping items from the US.
Both Renata and Brenda, I met them originally in very cheap places. Amazing what quality you can find for R$ 20 - 60, if you know where to look
By the way, for boob fans, I want to try this one today
[url]http://www.amantesecia.com.br/veranuncio.php?anuncio=Carol%20Magalh%E3es[/url]
R$ 80 incall for an hour
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Reduction of sexual service locations is of great concern
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Your guess is on the mark. VM is slated to be razed and become a station for the new fast train from Sao Paulo. Additionally a modern park has been designed to be built on the spot. No word on 85 yet. ;([/QUOTE]
they plan to re-build VM elsewhere. Like it had happened before, when the closed down the original VM at the Mangue in Estacio.
Seems they are concerned to have a cheap outlet for the lower classes.
I am concerned about Mabs, Franks, closing down and Meia Pataca becoming even worse then it was in the past.
Recently they shut down a pimping ring with women from TV flying to europe for a R$ 6000 programa with soccer players, or R$ 20 000 with state governors. They had 2 governors on their customer list. This will probably get them off the hook.
well, maybe girls are meant only for poor Brazilians at low prices. I wish they installed showers and public pissoirs at VM.
In general, all over the world, feminists are managing to repress prostitution. Here we got a description of the enemy. They are winning the war on all fronts. Enjoy life before the age of consent becomes jacked up to 21 or more.
[url]http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/prostitution/feminist-arguments-against-prostitution-dismantled[/url]
[url]http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality[/url]
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[QUOTE=The Watcher]Are you sure it was Centaurus that is open on Sunday? I have never heard of Centaurus being open on Sunday; however, as my uncle often told me, the things that I have never heard of will make a world bigger than this one.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I am probably wrong about that. I just remember making dashes by there on weekends before flying out, but that was probably Saturday afternoon now that I think about it. That was a long time ago.
I'm not too interested anyway because it is still R450! I was walking by yesterday and decided to check just to see if they had some kind of promotion, but no. I'm surprised they stay open with that kind of price.
Probably just a lot of people with more money than brains. Actually, I am probably drifting into that category myself. And it is not because I have a lot of money.
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[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]they plan to re-build VM elsewhere. Like it had happened before, when the closed down the original VM at the Mangue in Estacio.
Seems they are concerned to have a cheap outlet for the lower classes.
I am concerned about Mabs, Franks, closing down and Meia Pataca becoming even worse then it was in the past.
Recently they shut down a pimping ring with women from TV flying to europe for a R$ 6000 programa with soccer players, or R$ 20 000 with state governors. They had 2 governors on their customer list. This will probably get them off the hook.
well, maybe girls are meant only for poor Brazilians at low prices. I wish they installed showers and public pissoirs at VM.
In general, all over the world, feminists are managing to repress prostitution. Here we got a description of the enemy. They are winning the war on all fronts. Enjoy life before the age of consent becomes jacked up to 21 or more.
[url]http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/prostitution/feminist-arguments-against-prostitution-dismantled[/url]
[url]http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality[/url][/QUOTE]
I am trying not to get too paranoid about it, but the scene at Balcony is concerning. I am afraid the "clean up Copa" group will go to work on that. There are apartments and businesses around there that I am sure do not like this spectacle every night. There are nice restaurants around the corner and apartments that could be renovated. If you shade your eyes from the mongering activities, you could imagine that Praca Lido could be a very tranquil and nice spot if it was cleaned up. I am sure that when it was built, it was a prime location. The fact is, those types of real estate opportunities are very limited and the money to be made from gentrification far outweighs what the mongers and their suppliers bring in.
I expect it is just a matter of time before they run off Balcony as well. Places like Barbarellas can probably stay since they keep it indoors. Although, free lancers hang around that block hoping to grab something going in or coming out. It will probably take a long time -- just look at how long it took them to do in Help. If the owners choose to fight, that is.
No, I agree, the world is moving that direction. In fact, it is hard to construct a reasonable political argument to support prostitution. The only one that seems to work is the "right to work" type of justification like they use in the Netherlands. That turns it into sort of a union thing which is not exactly what most of us have in mind.
So far, the decline in Rio seems to be economically oriented (low business) rather than from the political side. With the exception of Help. So, there is hope that when things pick up, it will come back. Meanwhile, activities are squeezed, fewer options. But still more than most places on the planet.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]I am trying not to get too paranoid about it, but the scene at Balcony is concerning. I am afraid the "clean up Copa" group will go to work on that. There are apartments and businesses around there that I am sure do not like this spectacle every night.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there I was taking note of the "regular" local people who had to trudge through the mess called Balcony. Also, has anyone noticed the apartments that are right above Balcony? The people who live there must be pulling their hair out every night because of the noise pollution and the so-called low-lifes. As someone said before, when Help went all the desirable GDPs went with it. Now we are stuck with the bottom of the barrel who want to charge us unreasonable rates. When they brought down Help they created a monster for the local residents and the visiting mongers. I for one would be in favor of them cleaning that Balcony shit hole up.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Last time I was there I was taking note of the "regular" local people who had to trudge through the mess called Balcony. Also, has anyone noticed the apartments that are right above Balcony? The people who live there must be pulling their hair out every night because of the noise pollution and the so-called low-lifes. As someone said before, when Help went all the desirable GDPs went with it. Now we are stuck with the bottom of the barrel who want to charge us unreasonable rates. When they brought down Help they created a monster for the local residents and the visiting mongers. I for one would be in favor of them cleaning that Balcony shit hole up.[/QUOTE]Help is gone yall need to stop crying there are great spots in Rio believe me just get away from copa this sounds like guys that are used to silver spoons in their mouths get out and get some ass that is to be had and stop wining because things are not at your disposal matter of fact I saw some good looking girls at balcony.
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Where are they now?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational] As someone said before, when Help went all the desirable GDPs went with it. .[/QUOTE]
I will be in Rio in November. Just wondering, where did the desirable GDPs go after Help closed?
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By the way, for boob fans, I want to try this one today.
[url]http://www.amantesecia.com.br/veranuncio.php?anuncio=Carol%20Magalh%E3es[/url]
R$ 80 incall for an hour[/QUOTE]we're waiting for your report Brazil Specialist!! she looks hot, how was the performance?
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[QUOTE=Henry R]I will be in Rio in November. Just wondering, where did the desirable GDPs go after Help closed?[/QUOTE]Many went to Europe.
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[QUOTE=Henry R]I will be in Rio in November. Just wondering, where did the desirable GDPs go after Help closed?[/QUOTE]
Many of them are at Balcony. But Balcony just can't handle the volume. It is nowhere near as large as the area of Help/TA and the surrounding area. So at Balcony, the place gets completely packed, and it spills out all around. Also, since there is no giant disco, you are pretty much stuck outside with no place to sit if you get there late.
It's just different, but if you go, you will see a lot of familiar faces. I hope this is not see as more "wining". BTW, what's wrong with wining?
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Caligula Whiskey Club now Templo 73
[QUOTE=Christopherd] ...
So I try to check out Caligula Whisky Club, a mid-price terma, just before Bandeira (there´s also a terma just as you get to Mimosa, but I´m not keen on it). Caligula Whisky Club is shut however (6pm-ish, Thur - for anyone who feels like checking it out). It´s on Pereira de Almeida. Take Rua Matoso from the south side of Praca Bandeira then, at the next junction, take the left fork straight ahead which is Pereira de Almeida. The Whisky Club is No.73 and on the right hand side. I´d expect to pay about 100R but can´t recall a field report recently so maybe someone will visit and let us know the up to date info.
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Checked it out the other day and found it open at 5:30 on a week day. It is now called Templo 73 Club (Rua Pereira de Almeida, 73). I didn't stay because of lack of time, but physically, it looked pretty nice with an awning from the entry out to the street. There were nice, decent-looking people running it. I looked inside the boitche and although dark, it looked clean, with three or four garotas were sitting around.
Here is what I could find out. Entrance is 30R, and probably includes some beers, but I am not sure. Then they had 3 levels of rooms/service? 25, 30 and 35 R, I think. It was not clear, but I guess this is just the room and there is a separate garota charge? Sorry, I forgot to get this key piece of information. If someone would like to call to clear up these details, they list their phone numbers as 3217 3373 and 2502 8001. My Portuguese is just not good enough. I suspect it might be a very good option if you are in the neighborhood. The fact is, Praca Bandeira is a pretty long hike from Zona Sul. Now, if you are downtown already, that is a different situation.
They were very keen that I come in, saying they had a big festa going on with a strip show. I think they said there was a second floor. The place was decorated with balloons so it looked like something might happen. I guess it is under new management and has had some renovation, but I just didn't have time to do a full investigation.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Before you get flamed by mongers who are in touch with their feminine side... Yes, this is a good tatic! If you went DATY on a garota and started spitting pussy juice all over the place...it wouldn't go over so well in reverse. I wanted to do this at NS Copa 583 last year, but I'm too nice to disrespect a girl like that, even if she's a cheap ho.[/QUOTE]Since when does being respectful mean one has to be in touch with one's feminine side. Go back and read the posts from Mr. E. You want to be best buds with him?
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill] No, I agree, the world is moving that direction. In fact, it is hard to construct a reasonable political argument to support prostitution. The only one that seems to work is the "right to work" type of justification like they use in the Netherlands. That turns it into sort of a union thing which is not exactly what most of us have in mind.[/QUOTE]Actually, it's quite easy. The problem is, you can't argue that the world is round to people who believe in a flat Earth. When your opponents decide that they are going to go on faith alone, rational arguements make no impact.
It is a simple and well-proven fact that a well-administered sex work scene which is focused on protecting workers' rights is a safer scene than the illegal one prohibition creates.
Arguing this, however, is like trying to argue that pot should be legalized. Any way you cut it, pot is far less harmful than most legal drugs. The "just say no" dogma, however, makes it impossible to have a rational debate on this topic with many. Maybe most. People.
So with prostitution.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Since when does being respectful mean one has to be in touch with one's feminine side. Go back and read the posts from Mr. E. You want to be best buds with him?[/QUOTE]Some folks seem to equatr masculinity with being an asshole, just like many feminists do.
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[QUOTE=Henry R]I will be in Rio in November. Just wondering, where did the desirable GDPs go after Help closed?[/QUOTE]Rio is finished (actually it is finished since long). Every dump from Macapa to Porto Alegre sends it's hottest and finest to Sao Paulo for a chance at Bright Lights Big City. The money and the best boites are in Sao Paulo, not in fucking Rio.
By the way, as a reminder, there is in Sao Paulo the best freelancer club on the planet in the history of mankind (Love Story), so why crying over Help closure?
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[QUOTE=Rio Me Ever]Many went to Europe.[/QUOTE]Did they? Many? Where - if you are talking from first-hand experience having spent time in the E.U. since Help has closed. Many have abandoned Spain. Some in Italy. Some in Germany.
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Rikkit2 Day 12 - 14
day 12 – recharging the batteries
after the girls left, i crashed for another 4 hours, and woke up feeling great. but instead of going out to cause trouble, i spent a quiet day recharging my batteries. the girls were back at 1130, and i was hoping to get the best performance out of them yet.
session 1 – the girls were on time. i put them into a 69, and banged renata from behind. brenda was armed with a vibrator, and wasn't afraid to put it to good use. i rolled renata over to missionary after a few minutes, with brenda continuing to work her over, with more kisses and attention to her nipples. renata finished with me daty and brenda driving the toy. we switched our attentions over to brenda, and got her off quickly in the same manner daty, toy). brenda went to clean up, so i 69ed with renata and upgraded the toy to a big one. brenda came back and drove the toy, and renata came in record time as i pushed a finger into her ass. renata cleaned up, and i was 69ing and toying with brenda. she gets off easy, but she is insatiable. so she jumped on me cowgirl and got off again. with renata back, the girls double-teamed me bbbjcim.
day 13. 4x4, florida, balcony
we had a lazy morning in bed. brenda wanted her morning sex. you have to love this girl. then the girls packed up and we headed to the beach sans bikini for brenda. she paid for what she bought on the beach, and it was pretty spectacular. hving the bikini sales guy loiter in our area was nice too – he attracted some nice eye candy. we ate, drank, tanned, read books, and in general were just another three people on the beach. the eye candy was nice, with two or three gdps in the area and some non-gdps that were equally nice décor. one of the gdps was a friend of brenda's so she wandered back and forth talking, raiding the french fries, and flirting with me. the beach guy tried to hit me with the usual outrageous gringo prices, but i sicced my accountant (renata is not a gdp) on the problem and let her sort it out. even after the price was put in the ballpark, she argued another r10 off the bill. amazingly, we went third-sies on the bill, with each of us chipping in on the food, etc. i was quite pleasantly surprised.
the best laid plans of mice and men, dave did not come thru with the double date. so i headed down to centro and 4x4. the petite spinner was still mad at me for daring to session with another girl (give me a break), but i did repeat with april.
session 1. was this the same girl? we gabbed like we were old friends. in the cabine, she wanted to focus on me. she gave a decent bbbj, and we rolled thru cowgirl and missionary. but she was on a mission. i got her to relax, lie back, and did her ass scissors and lazy doggie. she finished me bbbj. it wasn't bad, but despite our increased familiarity outside the bedroom, inside it was a notch down from the first session.
session 2 – rubi, a bigger blonde girl with nice big ds, a friendly face (6. 5), a pretty tight body(8). after the experience with april, i went back to making sure the girl was very happy. after she got off twice, she jumped back on the program and wanted to get me off quickly. again, i got her to calm down so that i could enjoy myself banging her ass. she finished me bbbj; i didn't really give her a chance to jump on for cim, but she didn't lunge for me like many of the others once i started coming.
on the way home, i made a few stops. club florida was not worth the r10 admission. the facility is nice, but the place was dead. six girls, one kinda cute, one do-able, almost no customers. so after just a few minutes, i headed back to copa. balcony was probably the best yet, with three cute spinners and a few new faces that were worth checking out. i didn't take anything home, as i was expecting delivery.
session 3 – renata and brenda. renata arrived at midnight, and we went for a walk on the beach. she is pretty uptight, but likes the romantic accents in the time we spend together. after heading back to the room we had a very nice time being gentle and making love vice fucking like bunnies. she has a hard time orgasming, but this was working out very well. then brenda arrived at around 2 am, but i wasn't finisted with renata yet. after bbbj and me boffing brenda hello, we went to work on getting the biggest orgasm out of renata yet. i kept the pace slow and took her in the ass. brenda played with her breasts, bit her neck, played with her pussy and in general gets a big assist for this one. then brenda literally said "my turn to come". we did the same things, but this time i upped the intensity two notches. they then did the usual team up on me then, bbjcim. renata settled in to sleep at around 430 am, and i kept going with brenda until she came twice more. she gives a great bbbj, but i was shooting blanks by then. we went to sleep about 30 minutes later. about three hours later, i had a morning erection, brenda decided to use this opportunity, and we were back to the races for 45 minutes of working through every position known to man.
day 14 – another trip to 4x4
the girls woke up at 1 pm and pulled out as the cleaning lady rolled in. i never got to re-session with renata one-on-one, which is bad, because i was looking forward to continuing to get her to break free. i suspect that she is capable of squirting and of having rolling orgasms, and wanted to push her boundaries for, er, scientific purposes.
i had no plans, so i headed back to 4x4 to session with two girls that interested me. both danced the night before, and looked fine. they were both slender, both had disproportionately large natural boobs in great shape.
session 1 – fany, 23, dark skinned mulato, great face (8. 5) great body (9), tall, the cup, tiny waist. she is the 2nd best dancer at 4x4 – you can't miss her. i focused on her most of the session. and she enjoyed the daty attention. she is vocal and was more than pleased to express when i was pushing the right buttons. i got more safados for her earth shaking orgasm than any other girl this trip. we didn't really fuck all that much – she took me cowgirl, and missionary, then lazy doggie, and anal lazy doggie, which worked much better for me – as the end of the trip draws near, i am running out of steam. fany was wonderful to be with. she is very popular with the guys – if at first you do not see her, she is off sessioning with someone.
session 2 – lorraine, 36, white skinned, good face (7. 5), great body (8. 5), see cup, tiny waist, petite spinner class. she is the best dancer at 4x4 – you can't miss her. she looks much younger (she is markedly better looking than the average 20-something at 4x4. she also has fun at work, and it shows. i really focused on her, as my gun had not recharged after fany. lorraine too was more vocal than girls on earlier days. she wanted oral, demanded finger penetration, and when she was close, took her orgasm into her own hands and finished herself off. she's another of those girls that plateaus out quickly, so i was able to prolong her orgasm out over a minute. her 36 year old speed breaks work well. she had the 2nd or 3rd tightest pussy of this trip. when she was closing on her first orgasm, she was able to grind the fingering to a halt. a little quality lube later, i was able to get her off. hmmm, i should have switched order between fany and lorraine. when it was my turn to get off, i went from frottage to anal lazy doggie. we still had time, so i gave her a halfway decent back massage, which earned me a "friends for life" button. she is picture shy, sorry about that guys.
the renata/brenda team are inbound. i'll forgo any further detailed reporting on these two. you already get the gist of what it's like to be with these two, and report by exception when i pull together the day 15 report.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Since when does being respectful mean one has to be in touch with one's feminine side. Go back and read the posts from Mr. E. You want to be best buds with him?[/QUOTE]
I'm pointing out that the standard doesn't go both ways, as with my example of my not wanting to offend a girl at NS Copa by spitting her pussy juice out, while the common GDP thinks nothing of spitting out a load like it's not part of her job to swallow. IMO, if you're going to be a ho, its not a safe thing no matter how you play it. Give yourself to the job, else go home to your babies and work a normal job during the day like the rest and make way for some upcoming nympho who will meet expectations. Likewise, I don't half-ass a job on a girl if she's offering herself to me bareback or wanting to do something special that makes me uncomfortable. I just go along if that's what makes her happy, that's *respect* for someone who is genuinely laying it all out and just being herself without the pretense or hangups of a poseur.
Ask yourself, if you were a person who stopped short of pleasing *your* customers, is it likely that you'd ever have the money or opportunity to have visited any of the places in Rio? More likely you'd be unemployed back in EUA living off the printing presses of BO. You've earned a right to high expectations and GDP dedication equal to what you put into getting the money that you gave them.
As for all this other talk about Copa, if guys are getting caught up in Copa and never getting out, they are missing most of the girls and almost all of the Rio experience! Of my 28 girls reported in the last year, only 5 were in Copa. It's easy outside Copa too. I was just skimming the surface of Centro and Norte with no problem finding hundreds of doable girls. I haven't even ventured to Niteroi, Bonsucesso, but expect hundreds more off the beaten path. It's fun mongering up in the old city, just think..300 years ago the Portuguese safados were probably hunting for the GDP's up and down these same streets and alleys, perhaps the GDP ancestors of today's GDP's. You can't get that feel in Copa.
If Copa does 'close' for mongering, I doubt that girls just have the ho knocked out of them and go straight because their favorite place closed up. How could one ever walk away from such a fast-money lifestyle? HIV? (No) Pregnancy? (For a while). Cash windfall? (Perhaps) Got religion? (They already have it) Certainly I hope not just because the gringo watering holes were off limits. In most of the places that I monger, I don't see gringos, but the places are hopping and flourishing. Much like P4P in Tokyo, the P4P culture in Rio doesn't need foreigners or a centralized scene to sustain itself or its 'look the other way' acceptance.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I'm pointing out that the standard doesn't go both ways, as with my example of my not wanting to offend a girl by spitting her pussy juice out, while the common GDP thinks nothing of spitting out a load like it's not part of her job to swallow. IMO, if you're going to be a ho, its not a safe thing no matter how you play it. Give yourself to the job, else go home to your babies and work a normal job during the day like the rest and make way for some upcoming nympho who will meet expectations. Likewise, I don't half-ass a job on a girl if she's offering herself to me bareback or wanting to do something special that makes me uncomfortable. I just go along if that's what makes her happy. It's sex, natural and shouldn't be complicated with all the hangups that people put into our heads.
Ask yourself, if *you* were a person who stopped short of pleasing *your* customers, is it likely that you'd ever have the money or opportunity to visit Rio? More likely you'd be unemployed back in EUA living off the printing presses of BO. You've earned a right to high expectations and GDP dedication equal to what you put into getting the money that you gave them.
As for all this other talk about Copa, if guys are getting caught up in Copa and never getting out, they are missing most of the girls and almost all of the city experience. Of my 28 girls reported in the last year, only 5 were in Copa and I was just skimming the surface of Centro and Norte. I haven't even ventured to Niteroi, Bonsucesso, etc. It's fun mongering up in the old city, just think..300 years ago the Portuguese safados were probably hunting for the GDP's up and down these same streets and alleys, perhaps the GDP ancestors of today's GDP's. You can't get that feel in Copa.[/QUOTE]If something makes you uncomfortable, why feel pressured to go along with it? Especially when it can kill you (oh that again!) It is not a simple hangup, it really can be life and death man. But if you want to make that choice to do something you acknowledge you are uncomfortable with (and can really fuck you up) to make a "cheap ho" happy, then by all means go ahead. Seems like warped logic to me.
You also talk about "hos" really having to work hard to earn the money you gave them, but yet you also recommended simply giving into a termas that is demanding payment after cheating you of your time in a cabine. Why is that?
Lastly, I also read these guys go on and on about Copa changing. Hell, Brazil is changing. The world is changing. I personally have no issue with developing nations and women become more empowered and having increasing choices. I personally never felt like I needed to hold someone down to prop myself up. As a member of the human race, I view some reshuffling of wealth and opportunities as a great thing. It seems like some here only view the world through monger glasses. It is their right to do so, however pathetic I think that may be. (And, oh yeah, not all "hos" have babies)
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I'm pointing out that the standard doesn't go both ways, as with my example of my not wanting to offend a girl at NS Copa by spitting her pussy juice out, while the common GDP thinks nothing of spitting out a load like it's not part of her job to swallow. IMO, if you're going to be a ho, its not a safe thing no matter how you play it. Give yourself to the job, else go home to your babies and work a normal job during the day like the rest and make way for some upcoming nympho who will meet expectations. Likewise, I don't half-ass a job on a girl if she's offering herself to me bareback or wanting to do something special that makes me uncomfortable. I just go along if that's what makes her happy, that's *respect* for someone who is genuinely laying it all out and just being herself without the pretense or hangups of a poseur.
Ask yourself, if you were a person who stopped short of pleasing *your* customers, is it likely that you'd ever have the money or opportunity to have visited any of the places in Rio? More likely you'd be unemployed back in EUA living off the printing presses of BO. You've earned a right to high expectations and GDP dedication equal to what you put into getting the money that you gave them.[/QUOTE]Now I understand you are in the same business. So all your clients are happy are they? In that case you have earned the right. LOL!
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]If something makes you uncomfortable, why feel pressured to go along with it? Especially when it can kill you (oh that again!) It is not a simple hangup, it really can be life and death man. But if you want to make that choice to do something you acknowledge you are uncomfortable with (and can really fuck you up) to make a "cheap ho" happy, then by all means go ahead. Seems like warped logic to me.
You also talk about "hos" really having to work hard to earn the money you gave them, but yet you also recommended simply giving into a termas that is demanding payment after cheating you of your time in a cabine. Why is that?
Lastly, I also read these guys go on and on about Copa changing. Hell, Brazil is changing. The world is changing. I personally have no issue with developing nations and women become more empowered and having increasing choices. I personally never felt like I needed to hold someone down to prop myself up. As a member of the human race, I view some reshuffling of wealth and opportunities as a great thing. It seems like some here only view the world through monger glasses. It is their right to do so, however pathetic I think that may be. (And, oh yeah, not all "hos" have babies)[/QUOTE]
Wow, where to start.
PP, concerning your post on work ethics which started this, it is interesting to see Calvinism applied to the ladies trade. Probably not going to happen on a large scale. They offer a service, you decide if you want to buy. That is just the way it is. The idea that there are multitudes of women just waiting to swallow for us is absurd. How often does anyone pull that off the street without paying? Also, in my opinion, you are over the line on respectful language. Use of the term *ho* and the context seems to violate the spirit of the board.
Now on globalization, I have no problem with that. However, I can't help but be a little nostalgic when some things disappear that I had enjoyed. I know there is a little contradiction in this, but all of us who participate have this same contradiction. Nobody wants to hold people down just for our fun, but, if girls don't need the job, believe me, almost all would choose something else. So there is that dilemma and most of us deal with it by, consciously or not, saying I didn't cause this, it is already here, might as well join in the fun.
People can argue they are the lazy ones who don't want to work in a regular job and that is one facet of the issue. Another is that they are those who want more and are willing to work in undesirable jobs to get it. Sounds like the America system in that light. The truth is, there are all kinds. To paint them with one brush is entirely inaccurate. You will run into the kind that will rip you off and on the other end of the spectrum, find those who are just frightened little girls. One from Balcony the other day told me how dangerous she thought her work is. Once she learned she was safe, she became a different person, very vulnerable. They are people. The denigration people use to characterize them as a lower form is really an excuse for why it is ok to treat them a certain way.
Rio as a mongering destination. This will probably create a loud discussion, but, in my opinion, Rio has never been such, not on a world scale like Thailand or the Philippines. There has always been a local scene and some foreigners have discovered it and enjoyed. The only real sign that it was starting to become a destination was the emergence of Help which started as a locals scene, attracted a foreign audience and started to grow. When it got too big, they killed it.
VM, the mongering pride of Rio, is pitiful on a world scale. Just think of Patpong Road, Soi Cowboy, etc. all of the streets in Bangkok that are filled with tourists. Now that is a mongering destination. In my opinion, Rio is for the Cariocas and others have come in, which is fine. But I don't think there has been enough tourism to really change it. Note that PP says he never runs into gringos when he is out of Zona Sul and I agree. Those of us who are nostalgic, I guess, hope it does not get to be a mongering destination because that would likely ruin it, at least for those who know as it has been.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]To paint them with one brush is entirely inaccurate... They are people. The denigration people use to characterize them as a lower form is really an excuse for why it is ok to treat them a certain way.[/QUOTE]Well stated. Unfortunately there will always be those that will want to be the "big mac daddy" and act a certain way with the working ladies, and then talk a good game for the fellas.
Of course, you can't put any group of individuals under one classification. They are individuals. And there are individual businesses run by indivdual people, but there is a tendancy for guys here to say "they don't know how to conduct business in Brazil."
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[QUOTE=Fred100]Now I understand you are in the same business. So all your clients are happy are they? In that case you have earned the right. LOL![/QUOTE]Is he saying what I think he is saying? He's a "Man ho"?
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]If something makes you uncomfortable, why feel pressured to go along with it? Especially when it can kill you (oh that again!) It is not a simple hangup, it really can be life and death man. But if you want to make that choice to do something you acknowledge you are uncomfortable with (and can really fuck you up) to make a "cheap ho" happy, then by all means go ahead. Seems like warped logic to me.
You also talk about "hos" really having to work hard to earn the money you gave them, but yet you also recommended simply giving into a termas that is demanding payment after cheating you of your time in a cabine. Why is that?[/QUOTE]The man calls himself 'puta playa'. it isn't like he hasn't been upfront about what he is / does. as for safe-sex, would anyone compos mentis do half the things he's recounted if they didn't have already a disease? it's a big tent, like it or not.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Wow, where to start.
PP, concerning your post on work ethics which started this, it is interesting to see Calvinism applied to the ladies trade. Probably not going to happen on a large scale. They offer a service, you decide if you want to buy. That is just the way it is. The idea that there are multitudes of women just waiting to swallow for us is absurd. How often does anyone pull that off the street without paying? Also, in my opinion, you are over the line on respectful language. Use of the term *ho* and the context seems to violate the spirit of the board.
Now on globalization, I have no problem with that. However, I can't help but be a little nostalgic when some things disappear that I had enjoyed. I know there is a little contradiction in this, but all of us who participate have this same contradiction. Nobody wants to hold people down just for our fun, but, if girls don't need the job, believe me, almost all would choose something else. So there is that dilemma and most of us deal with it by, consciously or not, saying I didn't cause this, it is already here, might as well join in the fun.
People can argue they are the lazy ones who don't want to work in a regular job and that is one facet of the issue. Another is that they are those who want more and are willing to work in undesirable jobs to get it. Sounds like the America system in that light. The truth is, there are all kinds. To paint them with one brush is entirely inaccurate. You will run into the kind that will rip you off and on the other end of the spectrum, find those who are just frightened little girls. One from Balcony the other day told me how dangerous she thought her work is. Once she learned she was safe, she became a different person, very vulnerable. They are people. The denigration people use to characterize them as a lower form is really an excuse for why it is ok to treat them a certain way.
Rio as a mongering destination. This will probably create a loud discussion, but, in my opinion, Rio has never been such, not on a world scale like Thailand or the Philippines. There has always been a local scene and some foreigners have discovered it and enjoyed. The only real sign that it was starting to become a destination was the emergence of Help which started as a locals scene, attracted a foreign audience and started to grow. When it got too big, they killed it.
VM, the mongering pride of Rio, is pitiful on a world scale. Just think of Patpong Road, Soi Cowboy, etc. All of the streets in Bangkok that are filled with tourists. Now that is a mongering destination. In my opinion, Rio is for the Cariocas and others have come in, which is fine. But I don't think there has been enough tourism to really change it. Note that PP says he never runs into gringos when he is out of Zona Sul and I agree. Those of us who are nostalgic, I guess, hope it does not get to be a mongering destination because that would likely ruin it, at least for those who know as it has been.[/QUOTE]An excellent post.
Most mongers are aware that we are exploiting the economically disadvantaged. Levels of poverty is the primary reason that mongers travel to these areas. I spoke to one monger who compared himself to the NIKE cheap labor factories. Making shoes and having your body used by an ugly old monger who has no concern for your health or well being are very different.
I like to think most mongers do make an effort to treat the prostitutes with some respect. Reading some of the the posts from some mongers on this board, makes me feel that a few might have very sad lives. I suspect for what ever reason they are or have become more damaged than their victims.
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[QUOTE=Zingadoon]The man calls himself 'puta playa'. it isn't like he hasn't been upfront about what he is / does. as for safe-sex, would anyone compos mentis do half the things he's recounted if they didn't have already a disease? it's a big tent, like it or not.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Such disregard for one's own well-being would lead you to that conclusion.
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Solarium on fridays.
Someone got in contact with me about a question about Solarium. I will share my answer with the rest of the forum.
If you decide to go to Solarium, it is my suggestion you do not go on a friday. The girls do not wear bikini's on friday. They wear clothing as if they were going out dancing to a club ib Lapa or barra, etc.
Even though they look great, these outfits allow them to hide some of their flaws. When wearing the bikini, its more difficult to do that.
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Love Story
[QUOTE=Prosal]Rio is finished (actually it is finished since long). Every dump from Macapa to Porto Alegre sends it's hottest and finest to Sao Paulo for a chance at Bright Lights Big City. The money and the best boites are in Sao Paulo, not in fucking Rio.
By the way, as a reminder, there is in Sao Paulo the best freelancer club on the planet in the history of mankind (Love Story), so why crying over Help closure?[/QUOTE]
FYI - Love Story is also closed!
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[QUOTE=John Cricket]Some folks seem to equatr masculinity with being an asshole, just like many feminists do.[/QUOTE]Amen to that.
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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]FYI....[/QUOTE]
So far as in the abbrevations list of Jackson here, there is not FYI, explain me, please, what it means..... thanks :)
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Definded
[QUOTE=Lukasek]So far as in the abbrevations list of Jackson here, there is not FYI, explain me, please, what it means..... thanks :)[/QUOTE]
For Your Information!?!
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A decade has passed me by since Rio!
Man where does it go!!!! I just was thinking of my two trips to Rio back in the year 2000 - 10 fricken years ago!
The first trip to Rio was for 2.5 weeks exactly 10 years ago this month! The 2nd visit was for 3 weeks and it occured in October/November of 2000! I should look back in the old reports (if they go back that far) and see if I could dig some old reports out. Just a thought.
Help was my main stay at night but also partook of the many "Houses of Rising Sun". I recall a very favorite girl of mine. I met her on my first trip......yes Carla was her real name, oh the memories. I sometimes wonder where she and the other ladies ended up at? Got married? Had kids? Got their throat slit by some thug? Died of HIV? I don't know. I do know that it is a hard life.
Oh and although I have not been back to Rio in 10 years I have been to many other countries to play. Just this year alone I have been to Colombia twice for a total of almost 2 months. But that is for another section.
Be safe guys!
The Tall Man
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I can relate, TM. I haven't been to Rio since 1986 (!) but remember it as one of the best times of my life! It's back on the "to do" list again, for sure!
I recall meeting a carioca on Copacabana who was maybe 18, tiny thing with big jugs and a tight little box who spoke no English. Nevertheless, we went out dancing with her two equally cute sisters; and also went to the amazing New Year's Eve gathering on the beach where millions of Brasilians wear white clothing and bring candles and white flowers to the Goddess of the Sea. It is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen in my life! I personally enjoyed that more than carnaval!
Gostoza! and "I'll be back"!
[QUOTE=The Tall Man]Man where does it go!!!! I just was thinking of my two trips to Rio back in the year 2000 - 10 fricken years ago!
The first trip to Rio was for 2.5 weeks exactly 10 years ago this month! The 2nd visit was for 3 weeks and it occured in October/November of 2000! I should look back in the old reports (if they go back that far) and see if I could dig some old reports out. Just a thought.
Help was my main stay at night but also partook of the many "Houses of Rising Sun". I recall a very favorite girl of mine. I met her on my first trip......yes Carla was her real name, oh the memories. I sometimes wonder where she and the other ladies ended up at? Got married? Had kids? Got their throat slit by some thug? Died of HIV? I don't know. I do know that it is a hard life.
Oh and although I have not been back to Rio in 10 years I have been to many other countries to play. Just this year alone I have been to Colombia twice for a total of almost 2 months. But that is for another section.
Be safe guys!
The Tall Man[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=D Cups]I can relate, TM. I haven't been to Rio since 1986 (!) but remember it as one of the best times of my life! It's back on the "to do" list again, for sure!
I recall meeting a carioca on Copacabana who was maybe 18, tiny thing with big jugs and a tight little box who spoke no English. Nevertheless, we went out dancing with her two equally cute sisters; and also went to the amazing New Year's Eve gathering on the beach where millions of Brasilians wear white clothing and bring candles and white flowers to the Goddess of the Sea. It is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen in my life! I personally enjoyed that more than carnaval!
Gostoza! and "I'll be back"![/QUOTE]Nice to hear the recalling of old great times from you and Tall Guy. Where you enjoyed the culture and what Brazil has to offer, beyond trying to nail 3 or 4 GDPs a day in hellholes. To each his own, but if you can vividly recall those memories some 25 years later they must have been something. I suspect some of the guys here won't be having the same fond memories as they sit around drooling in their oatmeal.* Hell, some of the guys probably won't even be around. The choices we make.
* Look for my book, "Drooling in my Oatmeal, Memories of a Monger" to be in stores later this year.
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Maybe 18? Maybe jail or R$ 50 000 bribe!
[QUOTE=D Cups]I can relate, TM. I haven't been to Rio since 1986 (!) but remember it as one of the best times of my life! It's back on the "to do" list again, for sure!
I recall meeting a carioca on Copacabana who was maybe 18, tiny thing with big jugs and a tight little box who spoke no English. Nevertheless, we went out dancing with her two equally cute sisters; and also went to the amazing New Year's Eve gathering on the beach where millions of Brasilians wear white clothing and bring candles and white flowers to the Goddess of the Sea. It is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen in my life! I personally enjoyed that more than carnaval!
Gostoza! and "I'll be back"![/QUOTE]
Life has changed. World wide! Nowadays, if this girl does not carry ID to prove she is over 18, and all her sisters, too, you will be arrested, or at least you have that possibility looming over your head at all times.
Feminists worked for decades to terrorize men. Nowadays you'd better do an ID check before you even talk to a chick. And have legal counsel ready to advise on local laws and habits. And be able to verify if an ID is legit.
And you have to proof her age, you have to prove you did nothing indecent with her. Nor that you had any intentions.
You can think the American feminists and the American government who pushed these agenda world wide.
You might enjoy this D cup, I still did not yet get around trying her
[url]http://www.amantesecia.com.br/veranuncio.php?anuncio=Carol%20Magalh%E3es[/url]
Bad review here, but I think these were personal issues of the reviewer
[url]http://www.gpguia.net/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=101602[/url]
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BS, what are the odds that escort looks anything like that picture.
Have you used that site before?
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Rikkit2 Day 15 - the final day, trip thoughts
Day 15
The final session of the trip was nice. After the girls left at 11 AM, I hitched up with Amanda, who is trying to freelance after a stint with one of the escort agencies. Pics below, face shy, about a 6. 5 face, very young. She is 19, pretty big (5'9"), and came across like much of the awkward country girl. We made out, and I tried to get her fired up. She just wasn't expressive enough for me to figure out when I was pushing the right buttons; she just laid there with a worried expression on her face. When she was trying to please me, she did know what she was doing though; I assessed this as experienced enough to know what men want, not comfortable with herself enough to know what she wants. BBBJ, then we moved to missionary, scissors, doggie style. Due to the lack of responsiveness, I figured that I would escalate to porn style anal, and had a lot of fun. Yes, this increased her responsiveness, but for the second time this trip, the girl resorted to desensitizing creme. If it works for her, it works for me. After rolling thru lazy doggie, reverse missionary, and doggie, she finished me off BBBJCIM. After we started cleaning up, then she was verbal. She was happy she got off so many times, with help from the small vibrator. We went out for lunch, ran an errand, and jumped back in bed for 30 minutes of hard anal, finishing again BBBJCIM. Roughly 3. 5 hours together, about 1 ¾ of that in bed, R200 plus R20 tip plus my last VS creme and lip gloss. She wanted to buy my pocket rocket vibrator; I gave it to her as well, which in Rio is a hell of a tip. But she was the anal queen of the trip, so I thought she had well and truly earned it.
Well, the adventure is over, and I am back home. Time to recharge the batteries before charging into Bangkok early next month.
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End of trip thoughts – first, I would gladly return to Rio. In preparation, I would get much more experienced with Porto, where I wasn't frustrated so often due to the language barrier. Second, I would continue to balance the escorts versus the freelancers versus the therma scene, but with more emphasis on the freelancers identified by my fellow mongers. I would work hard to set up another Brenda/Renata sleep-over dupla, as that was a good balance between having fun in and out of the bed without having made a two week "girlfriend" that wanted two weeks exclusivity. I pulled one out of Balcony, and she was good; I should have tapped that source more often earlier in the trip but was gun-shy as many GDPs from this source have gotten mediocre reviews in the past. I would also like to hit more of the Centro day places, if only to find a few gems to share with you all.
I'd be back in the apartments, but I would probably relocate back towards the northern end of the beach, as I did nothing with the GDPs on the beach despite good intentions otherwise. If I did stay towards the south, I'd favor getting a room from Brazil Specialist over Gringo Mgt or the like, as the room is nicer and the general accommodations are much better. And you would meet interesting women just hanging out there.
The girls generally took to the toys and lubes with no problem. Only one balked hard at the taste of the high end lube (H2O brand; too sweet for her), and none balked at being penetrated with the toys. Only one balked at being fingered, and was cool with it once I slipped a condom over the fingers. Even the sem completa girls were willing to let you play with their ass as long as you didn't try to porn star them. (One did not allow any touching at all; she must have had a bad experience). Two of the girls went from GFE to GDP once they got off, but in general the sessions were fun and unhurried.
I had backed down from 4 girls at 4X4 per night to 2, but was mixing in sleep-overs and early morning sex as well as late morning/early afternoon sessions. I liked the variety, and the quality repeats without having to give either one up. Meeting with like-minded mongers was fun, and added spice to the adventure. I'd bring less candy, more giftable pocket rockets, and more Victoria's Secret cremes, which were a consistent hit as "tips" ($6 for you on sale, R40 for the girl to buy herself).
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Exploitation?
[QUOTE=Will Power]Most mongers are aware that we are exploiting the economically disadvantaged. Levels of poverty is the primary reason that mongers travel to these areas. [/QUOTE]I'm going to respectfully say bullshit to this one.
1. Since when is fair exchange exploitation?
2. Others who are at the same economic level have not taken this job and put themselves in a position to be "exploited". Explain.
3. Are any of these "economically disadvantaged" being forced to lie with any of us?
4. First world countries have fuck houses (Bunny Ranch, FKK, Amsterdam red light) and street walkers. The job description exists no matter the location's economic standing.
5. When mongers are not fucking in "these areas", 9 times out of 10 they are still fucking in other locations for a higher price per fuck.
6. When total cost is taken into account a monger undoubtedly spends more traveling to "these areas" than he would mongering on his home turf.
7. I think the mongers are the ones being exploited. Take a look at the price disparity of a SP who receives 50 reais/hour in the day time at BA 85 when servicing locals, but commands 200 reais/hour from foreigners later in the night at Balcony.
A. I would argue that anyone with a paying job is "economically disadvantaged." If not, then they would not need the job.
B. We are not exploiting anyone. We are merely making use of the services that were in place long before we came.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]A. I would argue that anyone with a paying job is "economically disadvantaged." If not, then they would not need the job.[/QUOTE]
Yeah... "the man" is fucking us all.
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Stop Monger Exploitation - Save the Monger Federation
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I'm going to respectfully say bullshit to this one.
1. Since when is fair exchange exploitation?
2. Others who are at the same economic level have not taken this job and put themselves in a position to be "exploited". Explain.
3. Are any of these "economically disadvantaged" being forced to lie with any of us?
4. First world countries have fuck houses (Bunny Ranch, FKK, Amsterdam red light) and street walkers. The job description exists no matter the location's economic standing.
5. When mongers are not fucking in "these areas", 9 times out of 10 they are still fucking in other locations for a higher price per fuck.
6. When total cost is taken into account a monger undoubtedly spends more traveling to "these areas" than he would mongering on his home turf.
7. I think the mongers are the ones being exploited. Take a look at the price disparity of a SP who receives 50 reais/hour in the day time at BA 85 when servicing locals, but commands 200 reais/hour from foreigners later in the night at Balcony.
A. I would argue that anyone with a paying job is "economically disadvantaged." If not, then they would not need the job.
B. We are not exploiting anyone. We are merely making use of the services that were in place long before we came.[/QUOTE]Would you also say that Brazilians (and other top mongering destinations) have the same economic opportunities as we do in the US? Would you also say that some individuals' circumstances do not allow them to work 12 hours a day for 6 days a week for little R$? And as new economic opportunities start coming do you see more options for people to make livable wages in other lines of work? Would you personally pay $1000 or more US to go to the Bunny Ranch? Isn't a monger paying to go to Rio for a vacation too (in most cases), or increasingly going there on other business?
A monger can also go to BA 85 and pay the local rates. If a monger does not wish to do their research, or go to the available low cost options, and wants convenience they can pay higher prices. Like stopping at 7 / 11 for a loaf of bread instead of a supermarket. You'll pay double but you did not hassle with going to the market. Is that exploitation or a convenience charge? After all, the monger has the option.
Interesting to see how you got to mongers being the ones exploited in 7 easy steps. Nice attempt, but I ain't feeling sorry for anyone here.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
B. We are not exploiting anyone. We are merely making use of the services that were in place long before we came.[/QUOTE]
Like I said in my post below:
"So there is that dilemma and most of us deal with it by, consciously or not, saying I didn't cause this, it is already here, might as well join in the fun."
The fact is that in places like Thailand, they have built this industry in response to demand from foreigners. So maybe it is a favor to give them relatively high paying jobs? I agree with one thing -- it exists in a lot of places so it is not *simply* poverty. You also have the other reason I mentioned -- they are willing to take an undesirable job for higher pay.
My experience is that most of them have family obligations -- they have a small child and have been deserted by the father, for example. Others send money to family and in still other situations, the family is in debt and sells the girl into this obligation. A regular job at such low wages won't get it done. There are other reasons, but this has to be the overriding one on the world scale.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational] 5. When mongers are not fucking in "these areas", 9 times out of 10 they are still fucking in other locations for a higher price per fuck.[/QUOTE]Where are you getting these stats from? What is that # based on? I personally have come to know 7 guys that now only monger when they go to Brazil, DR or other parts of Central and SA on business. Back at home, they have relationships, marriages, etc. A few used to dabble in Vegas hookers when there on business. But "have gotten spoiled by the excellent service and cheap prices in Latin America and elsewhere."
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational] B. We are not exploiting anyone. We are merely making use of the services that were in place long before we came.[/QUOTE]So, isn't another way of saying this is that mongers have been exploiting people for a long time?
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I will add.....
[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Like I said in my post below:
"So there is that dilemma and most of us deal with it by, consciously or not, saying I didn't cause this, it is already here, might as well join in the fun."
The fact is that in places like Thailand, they have built this industry in response to demand from foreigners. So maybe it is a favor to give them relatively high paying jobs? I agree with one thing -- it exists in a lot of places so it is not *simply* poverty. You also have the other reason I mentioned -- they are willing to take an undesirable job for higher pay.
My experience is that most of them have family obligations -- they have a small child and have been deserted by the father, for example. Others send money to family and in still other situations, the family is in debt and sells the girl into this obligation. A regular job at such low wages won't get it done. There are other reasons, but this has to be the overriding one on the world scale.[/QUOTE]
During my last trip alone, I spoke to one gal that is engaged to be married in December, her boyfriend knows what she is doing, and she plans to work only to November because she will have enough money to buy a house. She says she plans to being a gdp in November. Whether she stops or not, thats debatable, but she will be the proud owner of a house.
As 4 x 4, I met another mulata who has no children, and does not interested in having one anytime soon. She has worked in a spain for a few months, has no desire to go back, and she she calculates that she will have enough cash to buy her house by Febuary of next year. She lives with her mom and sister. Her plan is to quit once she gets the house.
Some meninas save there cash, others blow it. Bottomline, they are working for different purposes. Some because they have kids, and others because they want to improve their own personal situation.
People taking advantage of others? I think it works both ways at certain times. Sometimes I overhear guys say how much they paid for a session, and I feel like I am getting chest pains.......just insane knowing that they paid 400R for a garota that would have accepted 200R, and normally charges between 100-150R to the locals. Those are the moments when I ask myself.......who is taking advantage of whom. It works both ways.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]During my last trip alone, I spoke to one gal that is engaged to be married in December, her boyfriend knows what she is doing, and she plans to work only to November because she will have enough money to buy a house. She says she plans to being a gdp in November. Whether she stops or not, thats debatable, but she will be the proud owner of a house.
As 4 x 4, I met another mulata who has no children, and does not interested in having one anytime soon. She has worked in a spain for a few months, has no desire to go back, and she she calculates that she will have enough cash to buy her house by Febuary of next year. She lives with her mom and sister. Her plan is to quit once she gets the house.
Some meninas save there cash, others blow it. Bottomline, they are working for different purposes. Some because they have kids, and others because they want to improve their own personal situation.
People taking advantage of others? I think it works both ways at certain times. Sometimes I overhear guys say how much they paid for a session, and I feel like I am getting chest pains. Just insane knowing that they paid 400R for a garota that would have accepted 200R, and normally charges between 100-150R to the locals. Those are the moments when I ask myself. Who is taking advantage of whom. It works both ways.[/QUOTE]Have anyone read the book Laughter Out Of Place
You will get a better understanding of the brasilian culture
Some brasilian women have no problem using everyting they have to offer including their bodies.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]People taking advantage of others? I think it works both ways at certain times. Sometimes I overhear guys say how much they paid for a session, and I feel like I am getting chest pains. Just insane knowing that they paid 400R for a garota that would have accepted 200R, and normally charges between 100-150R to the locals. Those are the moments when I ask myself. Who is taking advantage of whom. It works both ways.[/QUOTE]IT's not called The Oldest Profession for no reason.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Would you also say that Brazilians (and other top mongering destinations) have the same economic opportunities as we do in the US?[/QUOTE] No. That is what separates the first world countries from the others: opportunity. Most of us have a choice to do different or better. Take my forefathers for instance. When slavery was over in the U.S. they were granted opportunities. Many whites opened schools for them to help them become viable members of American society. Thus, until this day, we have over 100 Historically Black Colleges and Universities in the U.S. When slavery was abolished in Brazil what type of help did the former slaves receive? The same help that people are getting today. Not a damn thing.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Would you also say that some individuals' circumstances do not allow them to work 12 hours a day for 6 days a week for little R$?[/QUOTE]Of course. Everyone has circumstances that will or will not allow them to do a certain thing.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]And as new economic opportunities start coming do you see more options for people to make livable wages in other lines of work?[/QUOTE]Not in Brazil I don't. I see the rich getting richer and the poor staying poor as has always been the case there. And as long as they have menial jobs such as an elevator operator or a person walking the street with a broom and dustpan I don't see much changing.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Would you personally pay $1000 or more US to go to the Bunny Ranch?[/QUOTE]HELL NO! It's like pulling teeth to get me to pay R$28 in Vila Mimosa!
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Isn't a monger paying to go to Rio for a vacation too (in most cases), or increasingly going there on other business?[/QUOTE]I would say yes. But many of them fail to leave the block between NS Copa and Av. Atlantica. I remember being at the airport once and seeing some guys going to Rio who had on a bunch of jewelry. I told them that they should take all of it off before getting there. They told me not to worry because the only place they would be going is back and forth to Help.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Where are you getting these stats from? What is that # based on?[/QUOTE]When I said 9 out of 10 I didn't mean it literally. I was using it figuratively to mean many.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]So, isn't another way of saying this is that mongers have been exploiting people for a long time?[/QUOTE]The same way many of our bosses exploit us. How many workers feel they are underpaid? How many have gotten wage cuts while at the same being required to take on a bigger work load? The good thing is that unless you are caught up in some sort of slave operation there is a revolving door. A person in any job can walk out through the same door they walked in.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]The same way many of our bosses exploit us. How many workers feel they are underpaid? How many have gotten wage cuts while at the same being required to take on a bigger work load? The good thing is that unless you are caught up in some sort of slave operation there is a revolving door. A person in any job can walk out through the same door they walked in.[/QUOTE]You're missing something, Enternational: and that is, America is the Land of Opportunity. Where else can a person from nothing. No education, no talent, just plenty of nothing. Go and join the military, milk the tit for 20 years, while discovering how to exploit 3rd world women (I. E. Becoming full-grown man), collect himself a pension and swagger around full of his accomplishment? Why, only in America, the USA! No where else can a person of NO Talent live like like a little king than in the USA. In Brazil, the poor and good-looking girls have their talent and their bank between their legs, but they need a brain to go with it or else they end up in the gutter when they get too old to work.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]No. That is what separates the first world countries from the others: opportunity. Most of us have a choice to do different or better. Take my forefathers for instance. When slavery was over in the USA they were granted opportunities. Many whites opened schools for them to help them become viable members of American society. Thus, until this day, we have over 100 Historically Black Colleges and Universities in the USA When slavery was abolished in Brazil what type of help did the former slaves receive? The same help that people are getting today. Not a damn thing
So, you agree that Brazilian have not had the same opportunities as we in the US. This could lead to less choices for them.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Of course. Everyone has circumstances that will or will not allow them to do a certain thing.[/QUOTE]And you agree that some people cannot work the standard 6 days and their options are limited. Again, less choices.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Not in Brazil I don't. I see the rich getting richer and the poor staying poor as has always been the case there. And as long as they have menial jobs such as an elevator operator or a person walking the street with a broom and dustpan I don't see much changing.[/QUOTE]Brazil has a rapidly emerging middle class (110 million strong). There is a housing shortage of over 8 million homes for people that want and can afford houses. And there are 1. 5 million more new families being formed and seeking homes added every year. There will be a major building surge for this middle class, along with planned communities, stores, etc. All with better jobs, education and increasing incomes. Car sales are increasing at a 12% annual clip (practically zero in the US). Cable TV, broadband services and satellite services increasing at 40% to 50% annually. Most people here only look at things in Rio as is today and love to repeat what they have heard about Brazil over and over. There is a new Brazil emerging. I am doing business there and I can tell you that many companies want to, and are, investing in Brazil in major ways. And, the rich getting richer thing, is the same all over the world. More wealth is controlled in fewer hands.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]The same way many of our bosses exploit us. How many workers feel they are underpaid? How many have gotten wage cuts while at the same being required to take on a bigger work load? The good thing is that unless you are caught up in some sort of slave operation there is a revolving door. A person in any job can walk out through the same door they walked in.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you need a new job, or to go work for yourself. It is liberating, but most people don't take the plunge because they don't have the confidence in their abilities and the balls to step out. They like to ***** about their jobs and bosses, but they gladly take the pay check. But you really avoided my question, the reality is saying that "mongers are really just using a system that was in place for a long time is the same as saying people have been exploited a long time."
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It is a calculated choice these gals make
In my travels I've met alot of GDP's who use the business to get themselves set up for their futures. I know gals that own apartment buldings, as many as 8 houses (All paid for, ca$h) and charging rent for each one of them, setting themselves up for their futures.
I know some gals on the program that make as much as BR 5,000 to as much as BR 12,000 per month thanks to many of our more affluent mongers, you know those who don't look but love to overpay for everything. I'm sure there are some who make a lot more than that. These gals work in places that used to exist (Help, TA, etc.) and others that are still going strong (4 X 4, Monte Carlo, Lluomos, Balcony, etc.). Remember, the minimum salary in Brazil is roughly BR 500 per month. They are not being exploited. It is a fast track out of poverty for many of them, if they chose to be smart with their cash.
For these gals, no other job will give them as much money, power and freedom as the job that they do. They know that as long as their looks hold up, there will never be a shortage of reals in their future. They know it. So please, at those extremely high wages, do not say that they are being "exploited" in any way, shape or fashion. By comparison, in Nevada, a gal working in one of the legal brothel makes between $175,000 to as much as $350,000 per year and I mean the average gals not the porn stars that go to work there sometimes and command as much as $1,000K per year. Why do so many of them have business managers? Because, no matter the times, business is good :D
Gentlemen, these gals are there right now in bunda land, just talk to them. For them, as long as they stay healthy, it is a highway to a better future.
[QUOTE=Mangera]During my last trip alone, I spoke to one gal that is engaged to be married in December, her boyfriend knows what she is doing, and she plans to work only to November because she will have enough money to buy a house. She says she plans to being a gdp in November. Whether she stops or not, thats debatable, but she will be the proud owner of a house.
As 4 x 4, I met another mulata who has no children, and does not interested in having one anytime soon. She has worked in a spain for a few months, has no desire to go back, and she she calculates that she will have enough cash to buy her house by Febuary of next year. She lives with her mom and sister. Her plan is to quit once she gets the house.
Some meninas save there cash, others blow it. Bottomline, they are working for different purposes. Some because they have kids, and others because they want to improve their own personal situation.
People taking advantage of others? I think it works both ways at certain times. Sometimes I overhear guys say how much they paid for a session, and I feel like I am getting chest pains.......just insane knowing that they paid 400R for a garota that would have accepted 200R, and normally charges between 100-150R to the locals. Those are the moments when I ask myself.......who is taking advantage of whom. It works both ways.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1]In my travels I've met alot of GDP's who use the business to get themselves set up for their futures. I know gals that own apartment buldings, as many as 8 houses (All paid for, ca$h) and charging rent for each one of them, setting themselves up for their futures.
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You know multiple girls who have accomplished all of this?! WOW!! I am truly amazed!!!!!! In 14 years of going to Rio, I probably know 2 girls who have wisely invested their money! The other 99.99999% blow their money on BS!
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[QUOTE=Bravo]You know multiple girls who have accomplished all of this?! WOW!! I am truly amazed!!!!!! In 14 years of going to Rio, I probably know 2 girls who have wisely invested their money! The other 99.99999% blow their money on BS![/QUOTE]LOL. Some of the girls working in Europa return to Brazil with enough to buy / build their little saltbox dreamhouses in their interior hometowns, and furnish them, too. But as for the rest of them, it's the win the lottery talk that keeps them going.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]But you really avoided my question, the reality is saying that "mongers are really just using a system that was in place for a long time is the same as saying people have been exploited a long time."[/QUOTE]From what I am reading apples are being compared to oranges. Neither statement, "mongers are really just using a system that was in place for a long time" nor "people have been exploited a long time" has anything to do with the other.
If you take the side that anyone who takes part in the buying side of prostitution is exploiting the seller then it would be true that mongers are exploiting prostitutes. I, however, do not take that side. As I have said before fair exchange is not exploitation. It would be different if the buyer forced the seller into the job or if the seller was forced to take whatever price the buyer was offering. In none of my mongering sessions (especially in Dubai where many of the women are indentured sex workers) has a woman been forced to take my offer. By the same token I have not been forced to take her offer. Each party has always been able to freely accept or decline the others' proposition.
As Voyajer said, they alone chose to work in the sex industry. Nobody went around to their houses and rounded them up and made them go to work at Balcony, Luomo, VM, 4X4, etc. So if there is any exploitation going on then they are exploiting themselves. What about the millions of other Brazilians who are in the same economic situation but who do not choose to peddle sex. The choice is theirs.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Sounds like you need a new job, or to go work for yourself. It is liberating, but most people don't take the plunge because they don't have the confidence in their abilities and the balls to step out. They like to ***** about their jobs and bosses, but they gladly take the pay check.[/QUOTE]I for one love my job as well as my pay and have no complaints. I have an MBA in International Business. I studied in Brazil, Argentina, France, and South Africa. Although I have worked for myself before and still do so at times, I really have never had the desire to do it. I'm too lazy to have to actually "work" for a living. I'd rather take the train that has the gravy on it.
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[QUOTE=Rikkit2] I'd bring less candy, more giftable pocket rockets, and more Victoria's Secret cremes, which were a consistent hit as "tips" ($6 for you on sale, R40 for the girl to buy herself).[/QUOTE]
Great reports dude. Thanks.
Can you explain more about the VS creme?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Although I have worked for myself before and still do so at times, I really have never had the desire to do it. I'm too lazy to have to actually "work" for a living. I'd rather take the train that has the gravy on it.[/QUOTE]A '*****' in other words. (and self-professed, no less) bears repeating to say, it's the world's oldest profession.
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[QUOTE=Zingadoon]LOL. Some of the girls working in Europa return to Brazil with enough to buy / build their little saltbox dreamhouses in their interior hometowns, and furnish them, too. But as for the rest of them, it's the win the lottery talk that keeps them going.[/QUOTE]
I know a number of girls who have bought their own homes after returning from Europe or working in Copa for a number of years. I was talking about Voyajer1's post. I honestly dont know a single female who has bought apartment buildings, multiple homes that they rent out or own various businesses.
99.999% of the girls that I know that own their own house, that is all they have to show, for their years working. The house and like 1000 outfits from gang, a bunch of cameras, laptops, tvs, ipods, VS creme, that type of shit. But they have no money in the bank or any business that will continue to generate money for them.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]I know a number of girls who have bought their own homes after returning from Europe or working in Copa for a number of years. I was talking about Voyajer1's post. I honestly don't know a single female who has bought apartment buildings, multiple homes that they rent out or own various businesses.
99. 999% of the girls that I know that own their own house, that is all they have to show, for their years working. The house and like 1000 outfits from gang, a bunch of cameras, laptops, tvs, ipods, VS creme, that type of shit. But they have no money in the bank or any business that will continue to generate money for them.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I knew one who was sending money back to her father and brother who were constructing a couple of housings in their favela. Now, they're landlords: with apartment rental income of 300 reales per month per unit.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]I know a number of girls who have bought their own homes after returning from Europe or working in Copa for a number of years.[/QUOTE]I know my wife (from Minas Gerais, serious people and super-chata!). She was on the scene for 2 years, where I met her. She's now working for Petrobras as an engeneer.
I know a bunch of stories and it's ridiculous to set RULES with brazilian women and GDP.
U.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]From what I am reading apples are being compared to oranges. Neither statement, "mongers are really just using a system that was in place for a long time" nor "people have been exploited a long time" has anything to do with the other.[/QUOTE]I really am not trying to make the argument that mongers exploit prostitutes, I was just trying to show you how absurd your comment was that mongers are the ones being exploited.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
The same way many of our bosses exploit us. How many workers feel they are underpaid? How many have gotten wage cuts while at the same being required to take on a bigger work load? The good thing is that unless you are caught up in some sort of slave operation there is a revolving door. A person in any job can walk out through the same door they walked in.[/QUOTE]Getting pressured into a bit of unpaid overtime is not quite the same as having some fat ugly old monger pumping away at your orifices. For many of the girls having those images stuck in their heads change who they are forever. Many go into prostitution as they find the attraction of men empowering. For others it´s a horrible job they do it due to limited options (some forced by a pimp or possibly family pressures), as a result their self esteem is shattered forever. I would say the most vulnerable would be at the budget end of the scale.
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How can I contact a brazilian porn star like luana or virginia?
I’ve been planning my trip to Brazil for quite some time and I believe that I would finally make it in October. I would first like to thank everyone that posted information ranging from prices, best practices, places to stay, etc… Your information is priceless.
As most of us have seen many incredible women from Brazil in a lot of porn videos. It would make my trip if I was able to meet Luana, Mayara Rodriquez, Virginia, Darlene, Nanda, Monique, and many others that we all have on sites like [url]www.tnaflix.com[/url] or [url]http://tour.bigbuttbrazilianmoms.com[/url] .
My question to everyone is am I just fooling myself that I would actually meet these women. I heard that Luana now lives in the U.S. as well as Mayara Rodriguez .
Are they all now living in the U.S.? If I can meet them, does anyone have their info?
If I can’t meet any of them, I know my trip will still be incredible. But, it would be nice to fulfill a dream or two.
You can PM me or just write in the forum.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Fred100]Getting pressured into a bit of unpaid overtime is not quite the same as having some fat ugly old monger pumping away at your orifices. For many of the girls having those images stuck in their heads change who they are forever. Many go into prostitution as they find the attraction of men empowering. For others it´s a horrible job they do it due to limited options (some forced by a pimp or possibly family pressures), as a result their self esteem is shattered forever. I would say the most vulnerable would be at the budget end of the scale.[/QUOTE]
I often wonder where they end up. When I walk down the street in Rio I look at the older women and think about it. Anyway, it is a big mix. One thing for sure, the idea expressed earlier that they are all raking in the money seems absurd to me. My experience is that these girls often can't even keep their phones working. And that is their lifeline!
The whole exploitation question is slippery. In every deal, there is a buyer and a seller and each takes action based on their point of view. Presumably, both think the deal is in their interest. However, neither party is likely to have all the information. For example, I buy a house for a great price as far as the market goes. Why does the guy sell? There are lots of possible reason: he needs the money, he has to move, whatever. But darker forces can be at work -- maybe he has gambling debts and is about to get his legs broken. Can you say I am exploiting him? On the other hand, if I know he is deeply in debt and I make him a ridiculously low offer that he accepts, am I wrong? After all, he can seek a better deal.
These are difficult moral issues and they apply directly. Sorry for the heavy tone, but I think these abstractions get to the heart of it. Slippery.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]I often wonder where they end up. When I walk down the street in Rio I look at the older women and think about it. Anyway, it is a big mix. One thing for sure, the idea expressed earlier that they are all raking in the money seems absurd to me. My experience is that these girls often can't even keep their phones working. And that is their lifeline!
The whole exploitation question is slippery. In every deal, there is a buyer and a seller and each takes action based on their point of view. Presumably, both think the deal is in their interest. However, neither party is likely to have all the information. For example, I buy a house for a great price as far as the market goes. Why does the guy sell? There are lots of possible reason: he needs the money, he has to move, whatever. But darker forces can be at work. Maybe he has gambling debts and is about to get his legs broken. Can you say I am exploiting him? On the other hand, if I know he is deeply in debt and I make him a ridiculously low offer that he accepts, am I wrong? After all, he can seek a better deal.
These are difficult moral issues and they apply directly. Sorry for the heavy tone, but I think these abstractions get to the heart of it. Slippery.[/QUOTE]Agreed:
Prostitution by it's very nature can be a cold brutal business and there are some very unscrupulous people making money from it. At the end of the day we all play mind games with ourselves to keep our egos and self esteem intact. It's just that some of the business negotiation comparisons used by mongers to maintain this comes across as a little delusional. Anytime that a third party is applying pressure to the girl to take the client, the idea of two consenting adults starts to get a little gray. The termas prostitutes (depending on the policies of the casa) are pressured to meet quota. This is a safer place for them to work and they don't want to be pushed out for refusing clients or not meeting quota. The pressure and the risks of abuse increases the further down the budget scale. In my experience, the Brazilian prostitutes get a lot more crap from their own countrymen than gringos.
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[QUOTE=Peace1]I’ve been planning my trip to Brazil for quite some time and I believe that I would finally make it in October. I would first like to thank everyone that posted information ranging from prices, best practices, places to stay, etc… Your information is priceless.
As most of us have seen many incredible women from Brazil in a lot of porn videos. It would make my trip if I was able to meet Luana, Mayara Rodriquez, Virginia, Darlene, Nanda, Monique, and many others that we all have on sites like [url]www.tnaflix.com[/url] or [url]http://tour.bigbuttbrazilianmoms.com[/url] .
My question to everyone is am I just fooling myself that I would actually meet these women. I heard that Luana now lives in the U.S. as well as Mayara Rodriguez .
Are they all now living in the U.S.? If I can meet them, does anyone have their info?
If I can’t meet any of them, I know my trip will still be incredible. But, it would be nice to fulfill a dream or two.
You can PM me or just write in the forum.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Do a search here [url]http://www.gpguia.net/[/url] There are tons of porn stars available . Mayara Shelson is currently selling her ass in Rio --->
[url]http://www.barravipsrio.com/mayarashelson[/url]
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Luana is out the biz for now. Virginia you might find at Balcony! I have her card around somewhere I will email and ask if I can give it out. Darlene very hard to find. I believe she does her regulars but doesn't work at a terma or escort. Joyce is not in Rio now.
[QUOTE=Peace1]I’ve been planning my trip to Brazil for quite some time and I believe that I would finally make it in October. I would first like to thank everyone that posted information ranging from prices, best practices, places to stay, etc… Your information is priceless.
As most of us have seen many incredible women from Brazil in a lot of porn videos. It would make my trip if I was able to meet Luana, Mayara Rodriquez, Virginia, Darlene, Nanda, Monique, and many others that we all have on sites like [url]www.tnaflix.com[/url] or [url]http://tour.bigbuttbrazilianmoms.com[/url] .
My question to everyone is am I just fooling myself that I would actually meet these women. I heard that Luana now lives in the U.S. as well as Mayara Rodriguez .
Are they all now living in the U.S.? If I can meet them, does anyone have their info?
If I can’t meet any of them, I know my trip will still be incredible. But, it would be nice to fulfill a dream or two.
You can PM me or just write in the forum.
Luana is out the biz for now. Virginia you might find at Balcony! I have her card around somewhere I will email and ask if I can give it out... Darlene very hard to find... I believe she does her regulars but doesn't work at a terma or escort... Joyce is not in Rio now...
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]I often wonder where they end up. When I walk down the street in Rio I look at the older women and think about it. Anyway, it is a big mix. One thing for sure, the idea expressed earlier that they are all raking in the money seems absurd to me. My experience is that these girls often can't even keep their phones working. And that is their lifeline!
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I think there is a skewed perception of Brasileiras. I can relate to your story of walking down the street and thinking that the women must be ex-GDP. Maybe not every girl has been GDP...I come to Brasil for business, so I spend most of time hanging out with professional people. The women don't seem to fit our perceptions of Brasilera as GDP or even as sluts. Most of them that I know are normal girls who seldom if ever fuck around for fear of the husband or church or the family, just like everywhere else. Morever, they are kept on a tight leash without opportunity. If they go out at all during their spare time, it's girls night out and that's it. The Brasileros that I know aren't fond of the idea of someone fucking their gf's or wives, unlike the swinger guys that haul their girls into Florida or 22 everynight for spending cash...and that's too bad because I wish all Brasileros would sell me their lovely ladies! :) However, there is a double standard and the professional Brasileros do fuck around on their women with GDP's whenever given the chance. Safado comes standard but safada doesn't appear to.
So, with that said...is our perception of the non-professional blue collar and favela crowd correct? That every lower middle-class girl on the street either is or has been GDP? My experience is with people in the top 10% of the salary earners and with mostly cheap GDPs and almost no one in between, so it is an interesting topic for me. It would be ironic if the general population in the world's biggest Catholic country truly was full of 'Jezebels' like we think it is. Certainly some guys here have been able to find some fun and promiscuous non-pro women and made g/f's out of them, and they do bi stuff and everything else..so that indicates it's true. But then again, consider we are dealing with the mating habits of highly focused and demanding ISG members and not those of civilians. ;)
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[QUOTE=Peace1]
As most of us have seen many incredible women from Brazil in a lot of porn videos. It would make my trip if I was able to meet Luana, Mayara Rodriquez, Virginia, Darlene, Nanda, Monique, and many others that we all have on sites like [url]www.tnaflix.com[/url] or [url]http://tour.bigbuttbrazilianmoms.com[/url] .
My question to everyone is am I just fooling myself that I would actually meet these women. [/QUOTE]
If you really prefer girls with that much meat, VM would have options for you. Check Sperto's map for directions. Most of the stock in the casas and termas is half that size and much younger, so don't get too hungup on the idea of porn stars or you'll miss out on some great experiences with better looking non-starlets. My best experiences have been with girls that were just working short-time in the business and then suddenly vaporize off the program, rather than the veteran girls. More GFE, less paranoid, and more willing.
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Puta Playa
I am exposed to all kind of Brazilians of all walks of life and I must say that our perception is wrong.
We are concentrating on maybe 1% of the population. 99 % are no GdP-material, either physically or mentally. Normal girls in the remote towns do not dare to "work" as in these small towns they would be an outcast immediately and their families would know about what they do. I met a couple of years ago two sisters which came from a remote place in Amazonia. Both decided that they had enough of their miserable life as empregadas/shop-attendent. That is how GdP are made. The normal blue-colour girl working in a small town and not moving away will never work as a GdP. Social pressure and controll will prevent them.
Yes - the male Brasilian will immediately start to fuck around if he has the money and the opportunity - they believe in beeing / showing to be macho. Their ideal girl to marry in this catholic country is a girl which had very little exposure/no exposure at all. But that is only their ideal perception. The reality is very different nowadays.
How do the GdPs end? Depending on their witts - the majority of them blow their money and with the age of 45 they have nothing to show and will end up where they came from - a Favela. They will have several children from different men and they will have to raise them by themselves without any help. The girls will be - when 18 years old - again GdP material, the boys will do in drugs or robberies or simply work as handy-men. (only around 5 -10 % of the population of a favela engage in illegal business)
The real smart ones either get married by a gringo and stay with him or do an "asset-stripping" when they have settled in. Alternatively they take their money and start a business - like beauty-parlour, suco-bar etc. But this is the very small minority. I would say that approx. 5 % of the GdPs really go to school / university and will finish their education. Then they move to another town and start a new life.
The American notion to "save the world" does not work in Brasil - it is a circle of poverty which will break up only over several generations. Lula managed one thing: nobody goes to bed hungry anymore.
Carlos Primeros
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[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]I am exposed to all kind of Brazilians of all walks of life and I must say that our perception is wrong.
We are concentrating on maybe 1% of the population. 99 % are no GdP-material, either physically or mentally. Normal girls in the remote towns do not dare to "work" as in these small towns they would be an outcast immediately and their families would know about what they do. I met a couple of years ago two sisters which came from a remote place in Amazonia. Both decided that they had enough of their miserable life as empregadas/shop-attendent. That is how GdP are made. The normal blue-colour girl working in a small town and not moving away will never work as a GdP. Social pressure and controll will prevent them.
Yes - the male Brasilian will immediately start to fuck around if he has the money and the opportunity - they believe in beeing / showing to be macho. Their ideal girl to marry in this catholic country is a girl which had very little exposure/no exposure at all. But that is only their ideal perception. The reality is very different nowadays.
How do the GdPs end? Depending on their witts - the majority of them blow their money and with the age of 45 they have nothing to show and will end up where they came from - a Favela. They will have several children from different men and they will have to raise them by themselves without any help. The girls will be - when 18 years old - again GdP material, the boys will do in drugs or robberies or simply work as handy-men. (only around 5 -10 % of the population of a favela engage in illegal business)
The real smart ones either get married by a gringo and stay with him or do an "asset-stripping" when they have settled in. Alternatively they take their money and start a business - like beauty-parlour, suco-bar etc. But this is the very small minority. I would say that approx. 5 % of the GdPs really go to school / university and will finish their education. Then they move to another town and start a new life.
The American notion to "save the world" does not work in Brasil - it is a circle of poverty which will break up only over several generations. Lula managed one thing: nobody goes to bed hungry anymore.
Carlos Primeros[/QUOTE]Nice post. So many guys here only see Brazil through their monger goggles. Of course, GDPs and the whole sex trade comprise only a very small part of life in Brazil. It takes a fucked up mindset to think every woman they see must have been a GDP at one point. It also cracks me up when I read arguments here about how the $ spent by sex tourists is meaningful to the economy and will have some bearing on government decisions. It is a drop in the bucket, and drying up more everyday. Major changes are underway. These are the changes you are seeing in Brazil.
Yes, Lula has started making a differience in many lives so far. Mongers can do their part too: Next time you are in Brazil do one less session and use that $ to buy some food for some of the kids and elderly you see sleeping on the sidewalk. Maybe you will start to see Brazilians as real people with real lives. Who knows, maybe it will make you feel a little different about yourself. It did for me.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]I often wonder where they end up. When I walk down the street in Rio I look at the older women and think about it. Anyway, it is a big mix. One thing for sure, the idea expressed earlier that they are all raking in the money seems absurd to me. .... [/QUOTE]
Just to be clear, I was not implying anything about Brazilians in general. I was just saying I wonder out of the multitudes of maids, shop girls, etc. that you see every day or work with are former GDPs. The percentage would be minuscule of course, but this is probably where they would be.
Brazilians in general, I agree basically with what was said below. However, it would be very interesting to see a Kinsey type report. Without a real study, we all just have the impressions we form from our acquaintances and what they say. What people say and do is often different, particularly where sex is concerned.
For example who would think women in the UK are big in infidelity? A recent study I read about showed that around 30% of babies (after the first) had different fathers or something like that. A possible explanation was evolutionary biology -- a survival advantage to widen the gene pool after a secure relationship is formed. It surprised the hell out of me and most people, I think but what a great excuse to screw around.
So, the "normal" Brasileiras may be up to more than people think.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]If you really prefer girls with that much meat, VM would have options for you. Check Sperto's map for directions. Most of the stock in the casas and termas is half that size and much younger, so don't get too hungup on the idea of porn stars or you'll miss out on some great experiences with better looking non-starlets. My best experiences have been with girls that were just working short-time in the business and then suddenly vaporize off the program, rather than the veteran girls. More GFE, less paranoid, and more willing.[/QUOTE]PP,
I really enjoy your trip reports.
But if Peace1 wants a "porn star" that's great.
Some one has to help support the aging GDP population.
R4M4E
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]
So, the "normal" Brasileiras may be up to more than people think.[/QUOTE]
SHD,
Good observations.
I lived in Brazil during the early 90's so I will admit that my data may be a bit dated. But I have been traveling regularly to Brazil on business so I am somewhat current on attitudes and social conventions. And considering I am a member on this forum with more than a few posts, you can assume where "MY" attitudes are concerning this subject.
I am lucky enough to travel extensively around the world on business and so I am in a position where I can compare relative attitudes and cultures so I can say with a high degree of confidence that Brazilians (men and women) are pretty normal on a world scale when it comes to attitudes on extra-marital relations and general attitudes on sex. I would suggest that we (and I am making a big assumption that you belong to the same relative demographic that I do) come from a society where the hypocrisy of sexual relations between men and women (married or not) skews our thinking when we look at other cultures.
Back in the 90's I worked in a large office of local Brazilian professionals as the only gringo and went to parties, BBQ's, office parties, and after work happy hours with my work mates. People paired up all the time and on a relatively casual basis and it was all kept pretty cool. If we heard about Alvaro banging the Maria the receptionist because her husband was out of work and was not in the mood for sex, no big deal. It was life. Maria was a good looking woman in the prime of her sexual life and she needed attention. Did it affect their office relationship? Not so much. Certainly not as much as I would have expected coming from Norte America.
OK - I am straying off topic a little. You posed the question about maids and shop girls possibly being ex-GDP. Well, that's a complicated question and depends on how you define it. Do these girls ever have sex and receive financial compensation from their partners who are financially better off? You bet they did. Did they consider themselves GDP? Not necessarily. Receiving financial consideration (or assistance) does not necessarily constitute prostitution the way we thing of it an the Anglo-Saxon sense of the act. Many other cultures (Brazilian included) don't necessarily consider the exchange of goods or cash for sex as the "test" for prostitution.
Let me give you an example. Back in the day, I worked in an office on Praca Floriano in Centro. A few times a week I used to go down to the sandwich shop near the Opera House and get ham or turkey on a baguette. the same cute little Mineira (from Ouro Preto) used to make the sandwich, smile and flirt making fun of the way I butchered the Portuguese language. After several months she told me that since I was such a busy man she would be happy to bring the sandwich to my office personally if could wait until 2:00 PM. I will spare you the details but for about 6 months she used to come once a week or so, deliver the sandwich, lock the door to my office and screw my brains out for 30 minutes or so. Luckily I had a private bathroom so it was all quite civilized from an office hygiene perspective. The first time it happened I was pleasantly surprised, but after the second or third week, she gently suggested that times were hard (inflation was 32% per month back then) and that her pay check didn't buy what it used to. Since I was on an expat hitch and my paycheck was being deposited in the USA, it was not a big stretch for me to give her some cash to ease her life. But being a relatively naive gringo, I was worried that she might think I was disrespecting her by treating her as a prostitute by offering her money. In hindsight, it seems funny now because she laughed it off and told me I was being silly. she was fucking me because she like me and she was horny. Her husband drank too much and couldn't get it up. If I wanted to give her some cash to "ease her daily struggle", it was up to me.
I may have been naive, but I wasn't stupid. I discreetly gave her cash from that time forward and for several months we had our weekly rendezvous. I always made sure my secretary was out on lunch break and i let "sanduiche girl" in and out of my office through my side door so as not to spare her humiliation (more mine than her I suppose). Did she consider herself a prostitute or a GDP? Not a chance.
So what's my point? (yes, I do have a point) Brazilians, like a lot of other people around the world take sexual relations in stride. Some like to fuck a lot, some don't. If they have a itch, they scratch. While Brasileiras are as capable of excessive drama as the next girl, I think they hold things in perspective better than your average American, Brit, Kiwi, Aussie, Canadian. Russians seem to have the same attitude as Brazilians. Sex is sex. And if you are economically advantaged and can share some dosh, then it's appreciated.
Anyhow - that's just my 2 cruzeiros worth, sorry - 2 Reals worth.
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Jake
Jake's post is an spot on in the difference between cultures. Anglo (american and English) cultures tend to be much more conservative whereas European and latin cultures are a lot more liberal. Myself being European, tend to think Brazilian sexual attitudes are much closer to normal than what I think the Anglo settled countries are.
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Jake 993
Bem feito - your report is spot-on!!!!
Carlos
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[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]Bem feito - your report is spot-on!!!!
Carlos[/QUOTE]
Agree 100%. That's why I said they are up to more than they might admit -- speaking of the professional and "upper class" in particular. Also, the special arrangements thing is right on. I know of several such arrangements. Ever see the movie "The Apartment"? I know a group of retired guys who have this going on right now. They share the expense and divide the time. The place is just a few blocks from their own apartments, but they have it to get away from their wives. Since they are retired, they don't go to the office and so have little excuse for extra curricular activities. Another one can't afford that so he chats up Zona Sul checkout girls as he goes through the line. He finds one that is willing and she stops by his place after work, does him, gets to have a drink and shower before getting on the bus and collects some Rs as well, Everybody wins, no big deal and I am sure she does not consider herself GDP. I know a taxi drive who claims to have made deals for a coke.
Now, I never knew any gringos that have that sort of thing going on.
My ruminations involved what happens to the real GDPs and it is nothing more than that: just curiosity, a rhetorical question. Then you look at the active ones and wonder what will happen with them.
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[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]Bem feito - your report is spot-on!!!!
Carlos[/QUOTE]
Agree 100%. That's why I said they are up to more than they might admit -- speaking of the professional and "upper class" in particular. Also, the special arrangements thing is right on. I know of several such arrangements. Ever see the movie "The Apartment"? I know a group of retired guys who have this going on right now. They share the expense and divide the time. The place is just a few blocks from their own apartments, but they have it to get away from their wives. Since they are retired, they don't go to the office and so have little excuse for extra curricular activities. Another one can't afford that so he chats up Zona Sul checkout girls as he goes through the line. He finds one that is willing and she stops by his place after work, does him, gets to have a drink and shower before getting on the bus and collects some Rs as well. Everybody wins, no big deal and I am sure she does not consider herself GDP. I know a taxi drive who claims to have made deals for a coke. I've had opportunities like this too, but have avoided regular setups for my own reasons.
Now, I never knew any gringos that have these sorts of thing going on in the English part of the world. I'm sure it happens, but not like in Brazil.
My ruminations involved what happens to the real GDPs and it is nothing more than that: just curiosity, a rhetorical question. Then you look at the active ones and wonder what will happen with them.
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Jake 933
Great report. It is refreshing to read an insightful report that have nothing to do with ramming your tongue up someone's ass.
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[QUOTE=Rio Me Ever]PP,
I really enjoy your trip reports.
But if Peace1 wants a "porn star" that's great.
Some one has to help support the aging GDP population.
R4M4E[/QUOTE]PP was trying save him the hassle and some $. And give him a better experience. That's all.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]
For example who would think women in the UK are big in infidelity?[/QUOTE]
Christ man UK women are total sluts!!
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Luomo
Well I got back to Rio last week after spending 18 months in Argentina. Last night myself and my wingman went late about 11 to Luomo. Oh dear it has gone downhill, they changed the layout the loungers are gone, pity had some great sessions on them!! Bar was empty except for one other guy and about 9 girls. The girls were lacking in energy maybe it was because it was late but no atmosphere. anyway my friend banged a nice little dark haired girl and I went with my old friend Loita. Average session, Anal BBBJCIM not bad but just ok.
Q: I've been away, things have changed HELP, Rio Antigo etc have closed. Where is the therma action at? I will try VM, BA85 etc, but they while cheap I'd like something more upper class!
I don't like Balcony or escorts etc.
Off to 4 X 4 tonight will let you know how things are there.
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[QUOTE=Langer]Well I got back to Rio last week after spending 18 months in Argentina. Last night myself and my wingman went late about 11 to Luomo. Oh dear it has gone downhill, they changed the layout the loungers are gone, pity had some great sessions on them!! Bar was empty except for one other guy and about 9 girls. The girls were lacking in energy maybe it was because it was late but no atmosphere. anyway my friend banged a nice little dark haired girl and I went with my old friend Loita. Average session, Anal BBBJCIM not bad but just ok.
Q: I've been away, things have changed HELP, Rio Antigo etc have closed. Where is the therma action at? I will try VM, BA85 etc, but they while cheap I'd like something more upper class!
I don't like Balcony or escorts etc.
Off to 4 X 4 tonight will let you know how things are there.[/QUOTE]
Hate to say it but I broke my rule and went to Centaurus the other night and it was packed. Probably 25 -30 customers, but maybe 50 or 60 girls? Lot's of stunners. I ran into some old friends from MC and L'uomo there too (garotas, that is).
I broke my rule because I did a little math and realized that it was not that much more than what you might spend in the other places. It is a flat R450 to enter and one session. But, drinks are relatively cheap. A caiprinha was only R6. So if you go in for a big time and buy the girls drinks, you can easily spend R400 at L'uomo. But it depends on the drink -- RB and absolute is up there at Centaurus. On the other hand, went to L'uomo last week, got the early discount, bought a few drinks but got out for less than R300. It is a long way from 22 -- in just about every way!
So, despite the prices, Centaurus has the most action going down in Zona Sul. Kind of backwards to what you might think. Haven't been to 4X4 in a while, but I am sure it is packed from 5 onwards. Get there early if you can.
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Firstly, Langer, you got there at 11pm, that is basically closing time for Luomo, most of the girls are gone. I think it is officially open to 1am, but after 11pm it is winding down.
4x4 is not as nearly packed as it used to be, possibly because the price is more expensive. A session now is R$250 for the 40 minute option and R$ 270 for the 60 minute session. I was there the other night and the bill was R$300. That is basically Luomo prices.
Centaraus. You can still just pay the entrance upon entry, rather than the R$ 450 upfront. Entrance is R$ 140 from memory although I may be off by R$10. Need a really great session from a smoking hot babe to justify those prices.
Cancun. Nice action there of late and cheaper to R$230 for entrance & 40 minute session etc. Facilities way better than 4x4. Went there last week, tab was R$250, decent price, decent session and excellent facilities. For me outright price is not important, I can afford pretty much any club in the world every day of the week, however perceived value is important. Cancun is good value for me.
Luomo, Monte Carlo, Salarium all $310 for entrance and a 40 minute session, although you can get a R$70 discount sometimes when they have specials. Went to Monte Carlo the other day and it was a horror show, really sad actually, the girls on the street were more attractive outside and that is saying something. Preceived value at Monte Carlo is terrible.
Went to Terma 31 last week. R$10 entrance, R$90 30 minute session, R$ 110 40 minute, R$ 130 60 minute session. Facilities not great but passable, seen worse, much worse. End up grabbing a Mulatta, everything was on the menu, face maybe 7.5, body strong 9! Bunda so firm you could throw a quarter at it and it would bounce right back at you. Big titties too. Session was not as initimate as one would get from say Luomo, but hey - banging a banging mulatta with titas and ass like that for only R$120 TOTAL. Can't beat that actually. Terma 31 Rua Alcantara Machado 31, Centro. it is basically 1000 yards from Uruguaina station, on the other side of President Vegas - which is the main street. There are probably 5 other similar priced T's within 200 yards of this place. Including MV 30 - Rua Mayrink Veiga 30 (100 yards from T 31- but slight more expensive). America is close as well, Rua Visconde de Inhauma 105. For late on in the night Boate Subsolo is also in the area, have to take them to the hotel accross the road which is R$25 for a couple of hours, girls will want R$200 but R$80 is the standard price every brazilian guy will pay. I took a girl from this place 2 weeks ago. She wanted R$250 - I countered with R$80, she lowered to R$200 - I countered with R$80, she lowered again to R$150. I just said look every girl goes for R$80 lets go. She said yes, was totally crap in the room but she had a reallyn nice ass and took it in the butt. Not the best session of ones life but was proud of myself for getting the Brazilian prices. The longer I live in Brazil the more I haggle for the correct price - perceived value is what it is all about.
Didn't really want to give an update to some of the places I have been of late, but once one starts to type one get rant on a bit. Rant over........
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Rates
Woooowwww
Rates have really gone up there!
I am from Holland and I can tell you that for that money you can easily find a chick (even brasilians) here for an hour or more. If those rates are really that high than I would suggest buy a ticket to amsterdam and visit some clubs here. You will save a lot of money and if brazilians is your thing there are more than enough of them working in holland and the rest of europe for much lower rates. I remember a few years ago I was paying girls 150 for the full night! I am not dumb enough to pay gringo rates. This is rediculous.
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]Firstly, Langer, you got there at 11pm, that is basically closing time for Luomo, most of the girls are gone. I think it is officially open to 1am, but after 11pm it is winding down.
4x4 is not as nearly packed as it used to be, possibly because the price is more expensive. A session now is R$250 for the 40 minute option and R$ 270 for the 60 minute session. I was there the other night and the bill was R$300. That is basically Luomo prices.
Centaraus. You can still just pay the entrance upon entry, rather than the R$ 450 upfront. Entrance is R$ 140 from memory although I may be off by R$10. Need a really great session from a smoking hot babe to justify those prices.
Cancun. Nice action there of late and cheaper to R$230 for entrance & 40 minute session etc. Facilities way better than 4x4. Went there last week, tab was R$250, decent price, decent session and excellent facilities. For me outright price is not important, I can afford pretty much any club in the world every day of the week, however perceived value is important. Cancun is good value for me.
Luomo, Monte Carlo, Salarium all $310 for entrance and a 40 minute session, although you can get a R$70 discount sometimes when they have specials. Went to Monte Carlo the other day and it was a horror show, really sad actually, the girls on the street were more attractive outside and that is saying something. Preceived value at Monte Carlo is terrible.
Went to Terma 31 last week. R$10 entrance, R$90 30 minute session, R$ 110 40 minute, R$ 130 60 minute session. Facilities not great but passable, seen worse, much worse. End up grabbing a Mulatta, everything was on the menu, face maybe 7.5, body strong 9! Bunda so firm you could throw a quarter at it and it would bounce right back at you. Big titties too. Session was not as initimate as one would get from say Luomo, but hey - banging a banging mulatta with titas and ass like that for only R$120 TOTAL. Can't beat that actually. Terma 31 Rua Alcantara Machado 31, Centro. it is basically 1000 yards from Uruguaina station, on the other side of President Vegas - which is the main street. There are probably 5 other similar priced T's within 200 yards of this place. Including MV 30 - Rua Mayrink Veiga 30 (100 yards from T 31- but slight more expensive). America is close as well, Rua Visconde de Inhauma 105. For late on in the night Boate Subsolo is also in the area, have to take them to the hotel accross the road which is R$25 for a couple of hours, girls will want R$200 but R$80 is the standard price every brazilian guy will pay. I took a girl from this place 2 weeks ago. She wanted R$250 - I countered with R$80, she lowered to R$200 - I countered with R$80, she lowered again to R$150. I just said look every girl goes for R$80 lets go. She said yes, was totally crap in the room but she had a reallyn nice ass and took it in the butt. Not the best session of ones life but was proud of myself for getting the Brazilian prices. The longer I live in Brazil the more I haggle for the correct price - perceived value is what it is all about.
Didn't really want to give an update to some of the places I have been of late, but once one starts to type one get rant on a bit. Rant over........[/QUOTE]
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What are the girls at balcony asking for since Help closed? There is no entrance fee there. That should keep their prices lower than Help.
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[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]
Cancun. Nice action there of late and cheaper to R$230 for entrance & 40 minute session etc. Facilities way better than 4x4. Went there last week, tab was R$250, decent price, decent session and excellent facilities. For me outright price is not important, I can afford pretty much any club in the world every day of the week, however perceived value is important. Cancun is good value for me.[/QUOTE]
Amen to that. See my previous reports on Cancun from my last trip. Absolute highlight. Of course, now I've gone and given it way too much publicity as have you :P
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Its a legal thing.
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]
Went to Terma 31 last week. R$10 entrance, R$90 30 minute session, R$ 110 40 minute, R$ 130 60 minute session. Facilities not great but passable, seen worse, much worse. End up grabbing a Mulatta, everything was on the menu, face maybe 7.5, body strong 9! Bunda so firm you could throw a quarter at it and it would bounce right back at you. Big titties too. Session was not as initimate as one would get from say Luomo, but hey - banging a banging mulatta with titas and ass like that for only R$120 TOTAL. [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the rare T31 and MV30 review. With the Real and prices creeping up, these venues should get more gringos in the years to come. You mentioned that everything was 'not as intimate as L'uomo?' Is that the general perception of the standard there, or do you mean just that particular girl? T31 is higher priced than the better known Florida Club down the street ($R95/40 +10) but I think if everything is on the menu, T31 sounds like a better option for only R15 more. Girls in Florida vary wildy, from crazy to everything covered. Florida is fun because of the good music and some pole dancing to pass time, but if the standard at T31 is completa then it would be a better value and I'd give up on Florida.
[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Agree 100%. That's why I said they are up to more than they might admit -- speaking of the professional and "upper class" in particular. Also, the special arrangements thing is right on. I know of several such arrangements. [/QUOTE]
Me too. In the extreme, I know a Brasilian middle-management type who has 2 families, and the original wife knows about the second family and lets him spend time there 50/50. She's not happy about it, but she's not leaving. Another guy has the same thing, but the time split is less. Mistresses, I guess, in a Brasilian sort of way. Better to have the sexually sadistic kind with PVC outfits, ropes and rattan canes, less painful. :)
The reason that people in UK, USA seem straightlaced about sex compared with Brasil is that most of the time xtra marital sex means divorce, custody battles, and big money lost. Its the secular individualistic mindset vs the religious/family oriented mindset. If a typical girl gets cheated on in the States, she doesn't care about the life of the kids or what her family thinks, she's just off to the lawyer to exact her revenge. So smart guys in places like the States know better than to fuck around in their own backyard because the mistress will tell the wife so she can have the man and his bank account to herself, and the wife is scorned and wants her cut, and so it almost ends in court instead of a practical solution like the Brasilians work out.
Check the divorce rates below in comparison to Brasil. Obviously the Pope tells them to grin and bear it down there, even if the marido comes home pushing a stroller and holding hands with his other 'baby's mama'. Despite what people think, I'd say the Cariocas are more uptight about a lot of things than people in 'The West'..like divorce, abortion, gays, race, class struggles etc. People in other industrialized societies, except for a vocal minority of special interest groups, moved past those topics 20 or 30 years ago. In my estimate, and my opinion only, time schedules and fucking are only things they are free and easy about. Everything else is a problem for them.
[url]http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_div_rat-people-divorce-rate[/url]
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[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Amen to that. See my previous reports on Cancun from my last trip. Absolute highlight. Of course, now I've gone and given it way too much publicity as have you :P[/QUOTE]
DUDE!, when are you back in the land of the bunda!
General info - I will do a proper review of some of the cheaper second tier places in a few weeks, it is a work in progress. I will also update the "bubba report" . Lots have changed since the last update, mainly just the prices!
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Great report. It is refreshing to read an insightful report that have nothing to do with ramming your tongue up someone's ass.[/QUOTE]
Thanks guys - it was fun to write. I got a "woodie" just thinking about my little "garota da sannduiche" again.
Admittedly, I have not been to Rio since HELP! closed and I am very curious to feel the difference (if any) from a mongering perspective. What I have noticed is a chance in the tone of the reports on this forum regarding Rio. Is it just me or do any of you also notice a difference? What I don't see as much as these days are some of the wild ass reports that we used to see from the pure "sex tourists".
A few more thoughts regarding my earlier post, like in most cultures, the upper class girls have a lot more to lose if they are "outed" as being GDP or even just as being "slutty". They have a certain social status and want to protect it. If they live in Zona Sul, the LAST thing one of these girls need is for word to get out that she is fucking a gringo for fear that they will be under suspicion for being a WG. But that doesn't mean they don't like to fuck and that doesn't mean they don't like to fuck gringos.
I know a business colleague from NYC who come to Rio about 4 times a year. He has a GF who runs a small art gallery in Copa. Clearly upper class, has money, married w/ 2 kids, smoking hot body and screws my buddy's brains out usually once a trip. In the middle of the day she arrives at the hotel dolled up like Bridget Bardot with an art folio under her arm. She strolls into the Marriott or Fasano like she owns the place, goes up to the front desk and asks which room Sr. Jim is in and to call and announce her arrival. Then she goes up and they "look at art". Shya - right.
According to Jim, she is an animal when it comes to sex who loves to do all sorts or naughty things (use your imagination) that her husband won't do. They have even met up in SP and I think once in Buzios (but they almost got caught by a friend of hers).
So what are we talking about here? She's having an affair with Jim. No big deal. Happens all the time. Frankly, I think that's a goal for all of us. Sure he buys art from her, but he loves art and would do so either way. He certainly doesn't pay her apart from hotel expenses. But I am sure he might bring her a gift once on a while. I have a similar arrangement with a Real Estate broker in Moscow and it's great. I'm also banging a 22 year old art student in Moscow. she certainly is not a pro. However, I stuff some cash in her purse when she's in the head. She's a student and she needs it. No need to embarrass her.
Here's my point - in addition to bagging GDP and hitting the Termas (nothing wrong with either), take your game up a notch and strike up a flirtatious relationship with a bar girl, the receptionist at the hotel, the attendant at the gym, or a shop girl. See where it goes. Call it a "project". You may be surprised at what happens when you just relax and treat them like normal women. Once she is relaxed and comfortable with you, it's only a matter of time until that hot Latin blood starts to boil and nature takes over. After all, they are Brazilian!!!
I dunno, maybe I am just getting old (52) and lazy, but IMHO this is more fun and adds a different dimension to the mongering scene.
Like the guy in the Dos Equis commerical says, "Stay thirsty my friends"
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L’uomo update
I am on my annual pilgrimage to the land of bunda. First stop, as always, L’uomo. Was there on a Saturday evening and would estimate that about 25 girls were present. Almost everybody was new to me; only about 5 familiar faces from last year. The quality of the girls is pretty high – if you cannot find somebody here, then your tastes are WAY more discriminating than mine.
Not sure if I really need to describe the facilities, plenty of descriptions on the board already. The whole place really consists of two main rooms, the boite and the break room. (I am calling it the break room, because you can take a break there from the relentless music in the boite). Plus there is the locker room and the showers/sauna/toilets area. The whole public area is probably is about 1000 sqft in size. And then there are the cabinas, but you can only go there with a girl. They put a bit of money into renovating, particularly the ‘break room’. Now it has a white leather couch and a flat-screen TV with mainly sport programming on.
I was there on a Saturday, and it was feijoada night. Served around 7 pm, pretty excellent actually.
Yes, the prices have gone up. I think my entrance fee and one session were combined about 300R. Caipiroskas have gone up to 14R, and whiskey is now 20R. Beer 6R, I think, and soft drinks 5. Memory is kinda hazy, because I had too much to drink. Total price tag for the evening from 6 to closing at midnight was a hair over 550R. Not cheap, but also not a killer. They currently give 1.75R for $1, which is the best exchange rate offered to me. (Comparison: 4x4 gave me 1.6).
I sat on my customary stool at the bar, which is where most action comes to you. Had several girls audition, some of them getting a drink out of me. All very friendly and happy to have customers around. I would guess that about 15 guys were there; so the ratio was DEFINITELY in our favor. I was expecting that L’uomo on a Saturday evening would be full of guys, with Help! closed, and with downtown action also shut down for the weekend. So I was kind of surprised at the low turnout. (Side note: Perhaps it is now easier pull girls for all-nighters, because they don't have the Help! option after work any more, either ...)
Peter, the barkeep with the excellent command of English, is still there. He told me that business is better now, but that a month ago it really sucked at L’uomo in terms of guys swinging by.
Well, I only sessioned once, but it was a good one. Let me just call her the Lea, partially because she told me her name three times and I could still not understand because of the loud music, and then I was too embarrassed to ask again.
Lea politely asked me if she could fire up a joint, once we entered the cabina. Fine by me. This really added to her performance. A lot. So we had a great time, and the sex was off the wall for the 40 minutes.
I decided to invite her to my hotel, which is very close to L’uomo. She accepted and asked me to wait downstairs after closing time. We walked towards my hotel, and she told me that she was out of dope, requesting that we would take a taxi and buy some. Now I have done some crazy crazy stuff in my life, but driving to a favela to go dope-shopping is not one of them. I declined, she got pissed, waved for a taxi, and I turned and left without looking back.
Wouldn’t you know it, I had only walked about 20 steps down the road when she called my name and came running after me. OK then, you can still come. We walked through the hotel lobby and apparently looked so much like a regular couple that the receptionist did not make us jump through the registration hoop. Up we went, and then started to get at it. Long foreplay, and then it turns out that neither one of us has condoms. Shit. Called down to the desk and somebody brought 3 up. 5R tip, no other charges. Now that is service!
We used 2 of the condoms in the evening and 1 more in the morning. I had invited her to dinner for the coming evening (here day off at L’uomo) and got her phone number. Then I had a lunch meeting and had to get ready; so I kicked her out. She then wanted taxi money. OK, here is 30R. Then she said she would also like some more money for herself. I gave here $100, which made the entire night a programa (which is also why I report on it here …). But I was not happy about the request for money after the fact; so I threw here phone number away and did not call for the dinner.
Still, all in all not the worst night of my life :D
euro
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[QUOTE=Jake993]A few more thoughts regarding my earlier post, like in most cultures, the upper class girls have a lot more to lose if they are "outed" as being GDP or even just as being "slutty". They have a certain social status and want to protect it. If they live in Zona Sul, the LAST thing one of these girls need is for word to get out that she is fucking a gringo for fear that they will be under suspicion for being a WG. But that doesn't mean they don't like to fuck and that doesn't mean they don't like to fuck gringos.[/QUOTE]Of course, Brasilian woman have sex with gringos. They have sex with anyone they like. Shouldn't be a mystery for anybody. Money into the equation is where the line is drawn. You hear them talk about another girl who they say is not like them because she 'makes sex for money. ' one time walking past the desk at the Praia Ipanema Hotel, my (then) girlfriend overheard a comment made by a desk clerk and abolutely erupted and went off on the guy until he would have disappeared. Non-gdp's would never tolerate any kind of imputation to their honor nor do something compromising, I. E. Take cash or 'clients' or be seen with an inferior quality guy just because he has cash.
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Termas for Sale
Now you can have your very own termas for only R$150,000.
From the O Globo classifieds:
Termas Luxo, Centro, 6 andares, elevador novo, 14 suites, sauna, etc.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Now you can have your very own termas for only R$150,000.
From the O Globo classifieds:
Termas Luxo, Centro, 6 andares, elevador novo, 14 suites, sauna, etc.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a good deal. You could probably get R150,000 of fucking just in the process of interviewing potential staff. Panel interviews, that is. :)
One of you wealthy guys should invest here. Rio is in need of a place where people can go for consistent service. For example, there is a pink salon that I use in Tokyo because I know that every girl is up for BBBJ, sucking balls, DATY and CIM without question. I would never see latex there or have a cum shot dodged, no matter what girl I get, it's 100% smiles and great attitudes and they all act like they are like starved girls feeding at my dick and balls with enthusiasm. It's a precondition of employment and standard of the shop. Rio needs a place with this consistency, meaning completely completa and a staff of sex addicted girls who want the job for more than just the money.
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I have had a few requests for financial help from termas GDP´s over the past week or so. I have had hundreds of these over the years. I always send a reply expressing my sympathies about their current financial dilemma, but make it clear that I am not in a position to help. Fortunately none of these requests are from old favorites. Not good if your old favorites start playing you like a QTF.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Sounds like a good deal. You could probably get R150,000 of fucking just in the process of interviewing potential staff. Panel interviews, that is. :)
One of you wealthy guys should invest here. Rio is in need of a place where people can go for consistent service. For example, there is a BBBJ shop that I use in Tokyo because I know that every girl is up for BBBJ, CIM, and DATY without question. I would never see rubber there or get dodged. It's a precondition of employment and standard of the shop. Rio needs a place with this consistency, meaning completely completa![/QUOTE]Better make sure you have the right bent police officials on a cut before attempting this. Prostitution is legal in Brazil pimping is not. The kind of nasty pimping your talking about would bring more focus from the "Secretário de saúde" and the human rights groups.
Anyone seen the film "THE HOSTEL". I think PP would not be out of place managing these kind of services for his select clientele.
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On exploitation...
Yeah, the women who work sex gigs are being exploited, but here's a news flash for certain people out there: ALL WORKERS ARE EXPLOITED. It's called "capitalism".
Hello!
A woman who chooses to sell sex to gringos on Copa for 175-400 reais a pop has to deal with a lot of shit, granted. Is it more shit than she'd have to deal with, per real earned, than a maid garnishing a minimum wage salary of 500 reais a month?
Not according to the women themselves: they've almost universally LEFT jobs as maids, beauticians and supermarket checkout girls to sell sex.
If you're truly worried about exploitation in the sex industry, then you need to support sex workers' rights, not be crying in your soup over their "exploitation".
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[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Of course, Brasilian woman have sex with gringos. They have sex with anyone they like. Shouldn't be a mystery for anybody. Money into the equation is where the line is drawn. You hear them talk about another girl who they say is not like them because she 'makes sex for money. ' one time walking past the desk at the Praia Ipanema Hotel, my (then) girlfriend overheard a comment made by a desk clerk and abolutely erupted and went off on the guy until he would have disappeared. Non-gdp's would never tolerate any kind of imputation to their honor nor do something compromising, I. E. Take cash or 'clients' or be seen with an inferior quality guy just because he has cash.[/QUOTE]
Your kidding right? Cash in Brazil distinguishes the quality of a man far more than Skin complexion or race. And no woman likes to be inferred as a ***** even if she fugging out of both pants legs..
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Day 2 & 3
After my first night in Luomo we went to 4 X 4 on Friday, The place was not as full as I remember, but there was still a good atmosphere. The wingman and myself settled in and had a few beers. Loads of girls coming up and dancing, chatting etc, the usual. I took two little honeys to the cabin for an hours, excellent session, anal, bbbjcim, etc.
Next day we went to Monte Carlo, it was ok, but no real atmosphere, stayed for a few hours but neither of us bother to take a girl. Afterwards we went to Balcony - awful - so many old and ugly putas looking for R$300+, Some of them had faces like a chewed toffee! Where are all the young girls (18-22) gone! I think the old witches must frighten off the competition, Went into the disco upstairs, La Dolica Vita - same story - old girls trying to pretend they are hot chicks.
Tonight back to Luomo or Solarium, (will get in early) to follow.
We are planning to go to VM some daytime next week, if any one wants to meet up for a trip there PM me.
Langer
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[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Your kidding right? Cash in Brazil distinguishes the quality of a man far more than Skin complexion or race. And no woman likes to be inferred as a ***** even if she fugging out of both pants legs..[/QUOTE]If you've been too long and too exclusively making P4P you might not be able to make the distinction. If the GdP life has been working for you, go with what you know and keep at it.
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[QUOTE=Zingadoon]If you've been too long and too exclusively making P4P you might not be able to make the distinction. If the GdP life has been working for you, go with what you know and keep at it.[/QUOTE]
P4P is a secondary interaction of my experiences while in Brazil. Primarily my experiences have been with professional persons. Therefore, step back and reassess your generalization.
PLAYA!
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The Three Tenors
perhaps this is a strange title for a post, but stay with me; it will become clear as i chronicle our adventure …
thanks to the pm feature of the board i managed to schedule a group outing with irishpussyman and travelerb69. around 3:30 i walked from my hotel down to the beach, strolled past the site of the former help! and terrace, which is now literally a big hole in the ground, and arrived at ipm’s apartment, where t69 picked us up.
[b]warming up the vocal cords[/b]
our first action of the day led us to a “private” near maracana stadium. it is one of the few privates, which are open on a saturday afternoon. t69 had done excellent advance recon. hopefully he will add a post that describes the location of this little gem, but i really do not know the address.
from the outside you could not guess in a million years what is going on behind the entrance and wall of this house. we rang the bell and were buzzed in. a small waiting area with four chairs served as the initial examination spot for the lineup. the girl, who explained the system and prices to t69 in portuguese, was smoking hot. t69 translated for ipm and me. then the ladies strolled in and out, one-by-one, beijos-left, beijo-right, oi, name, … i had made up my mind that i would do amanda and right away this erased all other names from my memory. ummm, problem: t69 also picked amanda. i insisted that he would get his first choice, but then was left to admit that i had forgotten the names. ipm was also not sure who went by what name any more. a lot of laughter from the girls, and the procession started again.
ipm was consistent and picked the two girls with the biggest racks. the dupla for the hour set him back 140r. excellent value! t69 went with amanda for 70r/hour. i said that i really wanted to bang the introduction girl, gabi, more than anybody in the lineup. gabi said no problem, and happily paired we went off upstairs. my room had a very comfortable (and clean! … ok, at least clean-looking :d …) bed, nice lighting, good music. quick shower for both, and then off to do the deed. gabi turned out to be a wonderful pick. more gfe sex than pro-style; just what i needed. heaven, for what turned out to be chump-change.
note to self: must play more in the privates scene!
it was now almost 6:30, because t69 had had to wait for the shower for 15 minutes and insisted that the clock should only start after he was done with the shower; so ipm and i had to wait for him for 15 minutes at the end. gaby came by a few times and always smiled at me and blew kisses. (i think i have a new friend ;)) ok, now the idea was to make our way to ipanema to hit centaurus, the most expensive of the termas. no problem, because t69 has a car. we stopped to eat at a place in ipanema, and i had a plate of picanha, whereas ipm opted for pasta.
[b]hitting the high c[/b]
t69 called centaurus to discuss waiving the gringo option of having to pay entrance plus a session up front. they reluctantly agreed to this if we would show up before 9 pm, but refused to tell him on the phone what the session price was, and what the entrance fee was. ok, for the record, entrance was 120r. steep! session was 390r for 40 minutes, and 480 for an hour. now you can see one reason why i call this section “high c” … (on the positive side, however, i will admit that the 1.80 exchange rate for the dollar they gave me was the best of the entire trip.)
the locker room and sanitary facilities remind me very much of 4x4; no reason to pay extra from that standpoint. we did not need showers, because we had just taken one after sex in the private. upstairs we went to the boite, which is very nice and about 3 times the size of that of l’uomo. there is a dance floor with stripper pole, but it was only used by one girl, once, the whole evening. the bar is big enough for about 6 chairs. the lighting is bright enough to actually see all features of the girl you are dealing with. the music is not too loud; so you can actually talk without screaming. definitely a good place for rich older men :d.
ok, here is the main point of attraction, the girls: there were about 30-40 of them in attendance, not 80 like the guy on the phone had told t69. but the ones who were there, they were good-to-great. their outfits were meant to be classy, i suppose, usually with some kind of chiffon (yes, i look that word up in the dictionary) cover over parts of a bikini. i would have liked straight-up bikinis a la l’uomo or 4x4 much better, but tastes differ. i saw a lot of 8s and 9s, perhaps a couple of 9.5s. almost every girl is on active hunt, basically all the time. you will not be sitting alone for extended periods of time. ever.
t69 had announced that he wanted to “butterfly” and get a feel of a lot of girls. that strategy also worked really well for me. ipm did not spread himself quite as thin, but did manage to get the girl with the biggest hooters in the joint solidly attached to him. i had many, many small-to-midsize grinding and groping (them groping me) encounters, but the girls i spent most time with were carol, flavia, luana, and renata.
renata is a wonderful girl, who kisses better than any girl i have met on this trip. very sweet and tender. while we sat at a table, she also rewarded my general policy of not wearing underwear under the robe, by massaging the flagstick for perhaps half an hour. (it got so intense that i got up and conferred with t69 to confirm my notion that this did not mean that i was committed to a session, as it would be the case in a german fkk.) she was drinking caipiroska (on my tab), and i like girls who like caipiroska. for 4x4 prices she would have closed the deal, but for centaurus fair i expect exceptional, and she was not quite there.
carol is great in her own right, but aggressive as hell. she almost sucked my lower lip off my face during one of the many dfks we shared. when i paid her a milk-of-coco at the bar, she started a relentless bunda grinding session that lasted 10 minutes and included very serious dry-humping. when she had little euro standing at full attention, she pulled back my robe and showed her project to her friends around us, who all smiled approvingly. later carol got admonished several times by the boss for being just a bit too pornographic when she sat on my lap on a sofa. she is a lot of fun, and at 4x4 this would have been session #2, but at centaurius prices … you get the picture: i continued the search.
i was flavia’s birthday, and some guy was buying a lot of vodka for all the girls who wanted it. (… which explains some of carol’s uninhibited fooling around) i ran into her in the boite, and she was very nice; a tall slim girl with pleasant facial features. if she had been in the lineup at the private, i would have selected her, but at centaurus prices … not. t69 was in the relax room, which consists of about 7 parallel leather “beds”. i was standing next to t69’s bed and flavia was laying on the one next to t69’s. suddenly flavia pulled me down and started hugging me. she explained that the boss could not see her in the relax room alone, because girls can only enter if they come along with a guy. flavia did not want to session, but just wanted to kill some time until midnight, when she could leave and celebrate her birthday with all the other girls from centaurus at the disco la girl in ipanema. she invited me and my buddies to swing by at around 2 or 3, when the party was expected to be in full swing. [we ended up not making it (… read on), but it might have been fun.] i decided to give flavia a very soft massage, and in no time here eys were close, she was smiling from ear to ear and purring like a little cat. i admit i got some serious wood out of this. after 20 minutes or so she got note that she could leave centaurus, gave me a kiss, and off she went.
the last girl i want to describe is luana. she has a face that look amazingly like calista flockhart’s, but her body is not at all anorexic looking. wow, here we have something very close to a 10 in my book. in regular life she is an elementary school teacher. can you imagine how hard it must be for the boys in her class to concentrate? :d well, we had an excellent conversation. but luana was very reserved and did not grope or grind or drape herself all over me. clearly she needed to be courted, and this could have been a hell of a lot of fun. but at centaurus prices that seems a bit of a high risk. what if she turns out to hold back as much in bed as in public? at around 12:30, after 4 hours of a lot of fun, we left without closing a deal. btw, the drink prices at centaurus were actually downright cheap. i had 6 caipis and a milk-of-coco on my bill, and it came to 41r. 6r for a caipirinha! wow! what a real bargain.
well, this is almost the entire centaurus story … ipm pulled his centaurus girl and agreed to 400r for two hours in his apartment. he can report how this went, if he feels like it. the 4 of us went for a midnight snack at some pizza place named eclipse. then we dropped off ipm and his find, and t69 and i headed for more adventures.
[b]showing range …[/b]
ok, now we come to the point where i explain the title of this post. they grade opera singers by the range of their voices between the highest and the lowest note they can hit. and the closer together they can hit those notes, the better it is. what t69 and i did next puts us definitely in paverotti’s class: we headed for villa mimosa. after hitting the highest end mongering point, we decided to contrast it with the lowest one i know.
after living in rio for quite some time, t69 had somehow never gone to vm. we relied on my recollection on how to get there, and together with a gps and a couple of stops to ask for directions, we made it. we passed a police control and parked across the street from the biker bar, then hoofed it for the last quarter mile.
vm has been described plenty of times before, and it was still the same filthy zoo i remembered, with hordes of horny guys paroling, an ever-changing lineup of girls offering, and unbelievably loud music blaring from overmatched loudspeaker systems in every casa. we took in the scene, explored all casas i knew of, made the rounds twice, enjoyed in the sights and sounds.
both of us had made up our minds that we were here only for shits and giggles, and that we would not fuck in this dump … except that as we are sitting at a table next to the meat-skewer vendor and having a drink, this blond girl appears. we study her and decide that she definitely has the face and body to be able to work at centaurus. again, we are not going to fuck, but it could be fun talking to her. being the genius of opening lines that i am, i cannot come up with anything better than balling up the paper wrapper of a straw and tossing it at her. but it does the trick, and she walks the five steps over to our table. we invite her for a drink; she has perfect teeth and a great smile. t69 also has a great conversation with her, but since i lack sufficient portuguese skills, all i could contribute was smiles.
ok, principles are there to be tossed overboard. we decide that we have to close the deal. t69 and i have very similar tastes, and decide to do her back-to-back. t69 insists that i should go first, since he got amanda earlier in the day when i had passed on his behalf. ok, so off we go. i pay the 30r, which includes the condom and a length of toilet paper for wiping after the deed. we climb the impossibly narrow metal winding stairs and her for one of thee 4 ft by 8 ft fuck stalls. ummm, disgusting. number one concern: do not let my clothes touch the ground. but when what’s-her-name takes off her clothes, she gets me hard right away, and all the filth around us is forgotten. really good session!
after my 20 minutes are up, she walks back down with me, tells t69 to wait, and then vanishes to take a shower and freshen up. back after 10 minutes, and then it is t69’s turn. he tells me he had the same excellent experience, and fully content we make our way back to the car a little after 4 am.
what a fun-filled 12 hours for the three tenors! (well, technically ipm missed vm and is thus not yet range-certified :), but he will be in rio a little longer, and i am sure that t69 will drag him to vm at least once.)
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Prive
[QUOTE=Euro100]Our first action of the day led us to a “private” near Maracana stadium. It is one of the few privates, which are open on a Saturday afternoon. T69 had done excellent advance recon. Hopefully he will add a post that describes the location of this little gem, but I really do not know the address.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Massagem Tijuca.
Great post!
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Hi Euro100,
I know you for your great reports and useful infos on FKK, so I am happy you are in Rio having great time and... thanks for your nice report !
Keep on having fun out there.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Sounds like a good deal. You could probably get R150,000 of fucking just in the process of interviewing potential staff. Panel interviews, that is. :)
One of you wealthy guys should invest here. Rio is in need of a place where people can go for consistent service. For example, there is a pink salon that I use in Tokyo because I know that every girl is up for BBBJ, sucking balls, DATY and CIM without question. I would never see latex there or have a cum shot dodged, no matter what girl I get, it's 100% smiles and great attitudes and they all act like they are like starved girls feeding at my dick and balls with enthusiasm. It's a precondition of employment and standard of the shop. Rio needs a place with this consistency, meaning completely completa and a staff of sex addicted girls who want the job for more than just the money.[/QUOTE]
Tell us the name and location of the place in Tokyo, in case I ever get back there. :D
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Too little information
Euro100,
Of what use is your post about the "privado" you visited without some information about it, e.g., address, hours, phone number, name if it has one. Do you have this information? If so, please share it.
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Euro100,
Of what use is your post about the "privado" you visited without some information about it, e.g., address, hours, phone number, name if it has one. Do you have this information? If so, please share it.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I know. That's all I have. Travelerb69 will hopefully be able to fill in the details once he gets a chance to write. Hours: all I know is that they were open on Saturday afternoon until at least 6 pm, which is remarkable. Travelerb69 will hopefully write soon, but I know that it will not happen right now, because as of the time of me writing this he is at L'uomo, screwing one of my three favorite girls there. :D
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This place was mentioned previously on the board!
It is one of my favorite privates in Rio, it is called Massagem Tijuca. There are at least 200+ set ups that are nice and decent in Rio if you venture to get out of Copacabana. Here is their website:
[url]http://www.massagemtijuca.com.br/[/url]
If you have trouble finding the directions on the forum, send me a private message. I can get there blindfolded.
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Euro100,
Of what use is your post about the "privado" you visited without some information about it, e.g., address, hours, phone number, name if it has one. Do you have this information? If so, please share it.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=John Cricket]Yeah, the women who work sex gigs are being exploited, but here's a news flash for certain people out there: ALL WORKERS ARE EXPLOITED. It's called "capitalism".
Hello!
A woman who chooses to sell sex to gringos on Copa for 175-400 reais a pop has to deal with a lot of shit, granted. Is it more shit than she'd have to deal with, per real earned, than a maid garnishing a minimum wage salary of 500 reais a month?
Not according to the women themselves: they've almost universally LEFT jobs as maids, beauticians and supermarket checkout girls to sell sex.
If you're truly worried about exploitation in the sex industry, then you need to support sex workers' rights, not be crying in your soup over their "exploitation".[/QUOTE]Not all workers are exploited, doc. I'd say you're too smart to make a blanket statement like this, so it must be your politics getting in the way. A person choosing to be an employer, a (ahem) capitalist, must have a risk tolerance, management capabilities, etc. A person choosing to put in his work-week hours, collect a check and walk away at the end of the day lives without the stress his employer has. Any tenured employee with a guaranteed paycheck, ought to know the difference.
As for GdP's, if they're self-employed capitalists playing the market.
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Euro, do the bodies look anything like those pictures of amanda and the others. If so, why are they not working at termas?
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Question about Centaurus? Now that Help is closed- are you having better luck paying the entrance fee only, and scoring some numbers for after 12:00. I would never session there at 480r, but it might be worth going a couple hours before closing and ask them to meet up for 200 reals. If they want extra money, I doubt balcony bar is their place.
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[QUOTE=Helprules]Question about Centaurus? Now that Help is closed- are you having better luck paying the entrance fee only, and scoring some numbers for after 12:00. I would never session there at 480r, but it might be worth going a couple hours before closing and ask them to meet up for 200 reals. If they want extra money, I doubt balcony bar is their place.[/QUOTE]We only get in with paying the entrance because we were with a native, I do not think there would be a chance of it if only gringos tried. As for getting numbers and doing privates, yes it works, I did it, I paid 400 reals as was mentioned by Euro, I spoke with some other girls, most would be happy to do private, some asked for 500 for 2 hours, and others said only after you had a session with them in the club first. I wish you luck getting any girl from there for 200, unless you are only talking about 1 hour.
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[QUOTE=Euro100] Number one concern: do not let my clothes touch the ground. But when what’s-her-name takes off her clothes, she gets me hard right away, and all the filth around us is forgotten. Really good session![/QUOTE]
No kidding, take heed gentlemen! I was being uncautious and animalistic there in the first days of last month, just throwing my clothes wherever in VM, BA85, Ouvidor 130, and caught something bad, a rash all over my body plus athletes foot and jock itch. (No, not that rash! I am certified clean) All better now, though.
Thanks for the reports. I like the style..this is the first report in a while of someone tag-teaming a girl too, so nice display of teamwork! What made the service so good, in your opinion? In my experience, VM is usually CFS and CBJ, a lively fuck but no extras.
[QUOTE=Fred100]Anyone seen the film "THE HOSTEL". I think PP would not be out of place managing these kind of services for his select clientele.[/QUOTE]
Hey, I know this place in Complexo do Alemão where the girls are so horny that their heads bob involuntarily and they leave a pussy juice trail when they walk, you have to see it...and there's this really nice pousada. :)
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Tell us the name and location of the place in Tokyo, in case I ever get back there. :D[/QUOTE]
Jan-Jan in Sugamo. Check the Tokyo thread for directions. For $R61 equivalent, no time limit, they'll milk you dry and you'll forget that you never got their rears. You leave empty with empty balls, a well-polished sack and a smile. J-girl butt is too boney anyway, it bruises my hips and they complain too much about dick size, even though mine is just average. But whenever and wherever a foreigner can give J-girls his gaijin unclean racially inferior devil cock, he should go for it, bruises and all, just to spite the bigots that run the industry there. Better yet, seed their non-pros.
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L'uomo
Heading to Rio in a couple of weeks and I was wondering if Paola (indian looking morena, long straight hair with a fringe and smoking body) has been currently seen there...
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]athletes foot[/QUOTE]
That's the worst I've caught, apart from an upset stomach occasionally.
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[QUOTE=July Gan]Heading to Rio in a couple of weeks and I was wondering if Paola (indian looking morena, long straight hair with a fringe and smoking body) has been currently seen there...[/QUOTE]
No, haven't seen her f some time.
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[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Not all workers are exploited, doc. I'd say you're too smart to make a blanket statement like this, so it must be your politics getting in the way. A person choosing to be an employer, a (ahem) capitalist, must have a risk tolerance, management capabilities, etc. A person choosing to put in his work-week hours, collect a check and walk away at the end of the day lives without the stress his employer has. Any tenured employee with a guaranteed paycheck, ought to know the difference.
As for GdP's, if they're self-employed capitalists playing the market.[/QUOTE]Yeah, self-employed GdPs are indeed small capitalists.
But under marxist economic theory, yes indeed all workers are exploited, by definition. Why use Marxist theory on this? Because that's precisely what the antis- do when they talk about "exploitation of prostitution" in a legal sense. You run a brothel and employ a prostitute, you are "exploiting" them no matter what work conditions you sustain, simply because part of the fruits of their labor ends up in your pocket.
My point is "Alright, fair go. But then why isn't employing a maid also exploitation? "
What pisses me off is that antis- are full-bored Marxists when it comes to sex work, but no other form of work. A woman who sells pussy for 300 R$ a shot and who gives up 120 of this to the termas where she works. Exploitation! Put the same woman in a maid's outfit and employ her to clean a house, charging the client 80R$ an hour and paying her 5 R$ an hour. That's not exploitation! That's good old fashioned capitalism, the thing which makes the world go 'round!
The GdPs can do the math on this one, rest assured, even if many antis- (and apparently some mongers) can't.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]That's the worst I've caught, apart from an upset stomach occasionally.[/QUOTE]Worst you'll admit, too. OK.
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1]It is one of my favorite privates in Rio, it is called Massagem Tijuca. There are at least 200+ set ups that are nice and decent in Rio if you venture to get out of Copacabana. Here is their website:
[url]http://www.massagemtijuca.com.br/[/url]
If you have trouble finding the directions on the forum, send me a private message. I can get there blindfolded.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the URL! I know that there are a lot of these places, but had not bothered before. This is going to change now :D
And, yes, the picture of Gaby that I see there is pretty much what I remember. Also, even though I did not see here naked, I think that this could be the Amanda that T69 selected. Hair color and length are right, for sure.
[QUOTE=Helprules]Euro, do the bodies look anything like those pictures of amanda and the others. If so, why are they not working at termas?[/QUOTE]
Well, ok, everybody enhanced a bit with Photoshop these days to smooth over skin flaws. But, yes, I think that these pictures are pretty accurate.
Why would they not work in a terma? Oh, this can trigger a long discussion all by itself, but here are some arguments:
1. Work hours are from the morning until mid-to-late afternoon, as opposed to a terma, where you start in the mid-afternoon, but have to stay until midnight or later. So it is a lot easier to hide your true occupation from neighbors and relatives.
2. Working in a terma can be brutally competitive; you have to do a lot to outcompete your fellow terma girls. Often you are on your legs for many hours, letting guys grope and fondle and kiss you, and still go home empty-handed. In many termas it is rare when a girl gets more than one client on a given evening. At a private, you can relax and only have to go through the lineup each time a customer arrives, which only takes a few seconds of your time. If you are organized, you can even do other work during the inevitable waiting periods.
3. You are not expected to drink or be in a smoky environment if you work in a private.
4. You have a lot of regular customers at a private. Some of them you may actually be very comfortable with.
Soooo .... lots of possible reasons.
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[QUOTE=July Gan]Heading to Rio in a couple of weeks and I was wondering if Paola (indian looking morena, long straight hair with a fringe and smoking body) has been currently seen there...[/QUOTE]
I know Paola and did not see her yesterday nor last week.
For you Ingrid fans (this club includes me, too, BTW): Ingrid was also not there. In talking with barkeep Peter I learned that she may be traveling right now. But in any case she works mostly on the weekends and has really reduced here appearances at L'uomo.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]
Thanks for the reports. I like the style..this is the first report in a while of someone tag-teaming a girl too, so nice display of teamwork! What made the service so good, in your opinion? In my experience, VM is usually CFS and CBJ, a lively fuck but no extras.
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Yes, I am not talking about any extras. Just the standard VM offering. But I don't know, we just clicked. Sometimes I think I can detect the difference between a girl really getting into a session as opposed to faking getting into it. Maybe I am wrong, but I think this happened here. And when it happens I simply enjoy it more.
Actually, at VM I personally would be very worried if a girl offers more that covered-everything. If she does it for me, then she does it for others, too. And at 30R a pop, there have to be lots of others to make the finances come out right ... Having witnessed that the girl actually took a shower between going with me and then with T69 was comforting. But I also know that this is not always the case. So an extended exchange of bodily fluids would be not advisable in my book. I avoided DFK, too ...
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If I may, just add another reason....
[QUOTE=Euro100]Thanks for the URL! I know that there are a lot of these places, but had not bothered before. This is going to change now :D
And, yes, the picture of Gaby that I see there is pretty much what I remember. Also, even though I did not see here naked, I think that this could be the Amanda that T69 selected. Hair color and length are right, for sure.
Well, ok, everybody enhanced a bit with Photoshop these days to smooth over skin flaws. But, yes, I think that these pictures are pretty accurate.
Why would they not work in a terma? Oh, this can trigger a long discussion all by itself, but here are some arguments:
1. Work hours are from the morning until mid-to-late afternoon, as opposed to a terma, where you start in the mid-afternoon, but have to stay until midnight or later. So it is a lot easier to hide your true occupation from neighbors and relatives.
2. Working in a terma can be brutally competitive; you have to do a lot to outcompete your fellow terma girls. Often you are on your legs for many hours, letting guys grope and fondle and kiss you, and still go home empty-handed. In many termas it is rare when a girl gets more than one client on a given evening. At a private, you can relax and only have to go through the lineup each time a customer arrives, which only takes a few seconds of your time. If you are organized, you can even do other work during the inevitable waiting periods.
3. You are not expected to drink or be in a smoky environment if you work in a private.
4. You have a lot of regular customers at a private. Some of them you may actually be very comfortable with.
Soooo .... lots of possible reasons.[/QUOTE]
Some would need to work while their children are in school. They rather be there in the evenning with their kids.
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Monte Carlo
Anyone know who the current onwer of monte carlo is?
I heard in the past that is was a different guy and that he owned monte carlo and solarium. Also curious to know how much the security guys mess around with the garotas?
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]No kidding, take heed gentlemen! I was being uncautious and animalistic there in the first days of last month, just throwing my clothes wherever in VM, BA85, Ouvidor 130, and caught something bad, a rash all over my body plus athletes foot and jock itch. [/QUOTE]Wow. I always keep my shoes on in those places. I really hate when there is no hook to hang my clothes and I have to roll them up and put them on the bed.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Hey, I know this place in Complexo do Alemão where the girls are so horny that their heads bob involuntarily and they leave a pussy juice trail when they walk, you have to see it...[/QUOTE]LOL. I think those were crackheads that you saw.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Jan-Jan in Sugamo. Check the Tokyo thread for directions. For $R61 equivalent, no time limit, they'll milk you dry and you'll forget that you never got their rears. [/QUOTE]R$61? That is almost cheaper than the train. I definitely have to check that thread. I have been there a few times but have never done any mongering there. I always assumed that the cost of fucking would be out of the roof seeing how much that geisha and karaoke stuff costs.
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[QUOTE=Timmy99]Anyone know who the current onwer of monte carlo is?
I heard in the past that is was a different guy and that he owned monte carlo and solarium. Also curious to know how much the security guys mess around with the garotas?[/QUOTE]Top pimp is Roberto, followed by Mauro. Everton is the manager and is on a cut for each program. Security guys I would say not at all.
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[QUOTE=Timmy99]Anyone know who the current onwer of monte carlo is?
I heard in the past that is was a different guy and that he owned monte carlo and solarium. Also curious to know how much the security guys mess around with the garotas?[/QUOTE]Different owners now; it used to be the same owner but the original MC owner let Solarium go about 2-3 years ago; they do however still cross share some of the girls not often but once in a blue moon if one location is short! Example a little over a year ago owner of Solarium was known to be rude and pretty mean to the girls and he lost a good handful of Garotas one week cuz they got fed up and quit, the owner of MC helped him out by sending some of his girls to help out! The two owners are not the best of friends but will help each other out for business needs once in a great while!
Not likely do the girls mess with any of the staff or help; the guys just can't afford them (normal lifestyle) and the girls know that, these guys do not make very much money and already have family's of their own. Also and this is a "need to know" for newbees, always know in your mind that over 50% of terma girls are lesbian (I know most veterans hate to hear this and know it's true) so the girls are most likely to mess around with the gay female locker room attendant then any male security guard at a terma! Look at it like this, if you were having to suck 3 d**ks or more a day and having to be treated like a ***** and having to listen to the F'd up things men say to them 6 days out of the week, you would also be craving Pu**y over D**k!
True fact; befriend any terma girl outside the club and she will confirm this, some have recently told me that as much as 85% are lesbian now!!!
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[QUOTE=John Cricket]Yeah, self-employed GdPs are indeed small capitalists.
But under marxist economic theory, yes indeed all workers are exploited, by definition. Why use Marxist theory on this? Because that's precisely what the antis- do when they talk about "exploitation of prostitution" in a legal sense. You run a brothel and employ a prostitute, you are "exploiting" them no matter what work conditions you sustain, simply because part of the fruits of their labor ends up in your pocket.
My point is "Alright, fair go. But then why isn't employing a maid also exploitation? "
What pisses me off is that antis- are full-bored Marxists when it comes to sex work, but no other form of work. A woman who sells pussy for 300 R$ a shot and who gives up 120 of this to the termas where she works. Exploitation! Put the same woman in a maid's outfit and employ her to clean a house, charging the client 80R$ an hour and paying her 5 R$ an hour. That's not exploitation! That's good old fashioned capitalism, the thing which makes the world go 'round!
The GdPs can do the math on this one, rest assured, even if many antis- (and apparently some mongers) can't.[/QUOTE]Marxism has been consigned to the Dustbin of History. Are people still collecting paychecks to spout that non-sense?
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[QUOTE=Euro100]
Why would they not work in a terma? Oh, this can trigger a long discussion all by itself, but here are some arguments:[/QUOTE]
Yes! Those are some insightful reasons. The smoking and drinking thing is notable for those people who have a big problem with that. I've never smelt strong smoke or any alcohol on an apartment girl's breath, whereas if I am in the other venues the girls smell of both plus sometimes food.
Particularly at Luomo, with Ane who some of you know is an absolute drunk and recently with Pietra who smelt so strongly of whiskey that I didn't want to kiss her. I'm no teetotaler and I do smoke, but I clean up nicely and at R300 everything on the sellers side should smell fresh.
My perception is also that the clientele at the apartments are a little easier on the girls. Check GPguia, many of the reporters don't even try for anal, "nao sei". I'm contrasting that with L'uomo, where everyone I've met seems to be insisting on 3 holes, even though the girls try to talk out of it, and we get our money's worth at the cu. That said, I've had excellent success giving anal on Rio Branco at low prices, but it's a different kind of sex and more nonchalant. At ~R80, I am treating a girl well because I'm getting a fair price. At ~R200+, I'm being nasty and hardball to get that money's worth, both for the session price and the expensive drinks that they guzzle on my tab, at twice the rate that I drink.
Mr. Ent, that was a reference to the movie. Right! FS in Tokyo is not cheap relative to someplace like Rio at all. Sometimes I do FS Japanese at high prices, Chinese FS for less, but mainly partake in excellent BBBJ shops and hire young Japanese pro dominas for mind-fuck experiences. Everyplace has it's values within a given price range.
Christopherd, hello. You have been quiet as of late and I suspected that you might have retreated to the monastic lifestyle somewhere in SEA or been shot by a jealous husband. Guess you finally got your login problem solved! Welcome back. Do you mean athletes foot is the only thing you've caught in VM, or all together after your ~hundreds of pros?
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[QUOTE=Euro100]
Why would they not work in a terma? Oh, this can trigger a long discussion all by itself, but here are some arguments:
2. Working in a terma can be brutally competitive; you have to do a lot to outcompete your fellow terma girls. Often you are on your legs for many hours, letting guys grope and fondle and kiss you, and still go home empty-handed. .[/QUOTE]
I agree with you on this one. I must have known about a dozen Centaraus girls who tried to work at 4x4 and quit because of this exact reason. They HATED having dozens of men trying to stick their tongue down their throats and trying to stuff their fingers up her asses and then they dont get a client after hours of this treatment!!! Since the majority of clients at 4x4 were brasilians, the girls hated being man handled all night long when they know that most of the brasilian guys couldnt afford to take them upstairs.
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Thanks fellas, preciate the info. Have a friend who works there. She said basically the same thing. About 85.90% of the girls are lesbians. She also told me at a different point that many chicks have a man / husband at home. Some do not know their girl works. Although I suspect many do. She told me knows a few girls who have messed with the head of security. Apparently this guy works as manager of security for a few of the termas
Also heard that the owner of MC does the same?
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Since the majority of clients at 4x4 were brasilians, the girls hated being man handled all night long when they know that most of the brasilian guys couldnt afford to take them upstairs.[/QUOTE]Well shit at the rate they are charging now, I'm about to be right next to those Brazilians doing the same damn thing. So next time you are in 4X4 and see a black guy with a caipirinha in one hand, a pound of pussy in the other, and a shit-eating grin on his face then that will probably be me. When in Rome...
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[QUOTE=Euro100]
Yes, the prices have gone up. I think my entrance fee and one session were combined about 300R. Caipiroskas have gone up to 14R, and whiskey is now 20R. Beer 6R, I think, and soft drinks 5. Memory is kinda hazy, because I had too much to drink. Total price tag for the evening from 6 to closing at midnight was a hair over 550R. Not cheap, but also not a killer. They currently give 1.75R for $1, which is the best exchange rate offered to me. (Comparison: 4x4 gave me 1.6).
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Euro, great report thanks. Man, I have to say I am amazed at how prices are going up. I know inflation is running at around 5% per year in Brazil, but this is crazy. A R$550 evening is probably around US $300 which is just not cheap. You can't be throwing down those every night -- well, at least I can't.
Who is paying this in Brazil these days, is what I want to know. Has the booming economy floated enough local boats that locals are in the money? I would imagine the strong Real is keeping away many of the foreign tourists.
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[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Marxism has been consigned to the Dustbin of History. Are people still collecting paychecks to spout that non-sense?[/QUOTE]Every economicist on the planet, to begin with.
There are some parts of Marx's theories which are simply integral to modern economics and the collapse of the USSR hasn't changed that (Marx's theories predicted that collapse in any case).
But yeah, this is what "exploited" means in the legal sense in Brazil when they say "sexual exploitation". It means you perform a sex act for pay and that someone gets a slice of that money. Whether that someone is a pimp or the owner of the termas who takes his cut out of room rental fees is immaterial. "Exploitation" doesn't legally mean "slapping the ***** around and taking her money".
But as I said, this is the same sort of "exploitation" that occurs when a person cleans a room and pockets 5R$ out of the 80 charged the client.
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[quote=eric cartman]euro, great report thanks. man, i have to say i am amazed at how prices are going up. i know inflation is running at around 5% per year in brazil, but this is crazy. a r$550 evening is probably around us $300 which is just not cheap. you can't be throwing down those every night -- well, at least i can't.
who is paying this in brazil these days, is what i want to know. has the booming economy floated enough local boats that locals are in the money? i would imagine the strong real is keeping away many of the foreign tourists.[/quote]
well, i think that l'uomo is following a dangerous path to a flat-out wrong business model. they have fewer customers; so they ramp up prices to keep profits high; which leads to even fewer customers. i have been there when i was the only guy in the boite for at least an hour straight. now, this may seem like paradise, 1 guy and 20 smoking-hot girls. but i cannot service them all :d for the girls there is then too low an earning potential. as soon as i settle on one or two (or perhaps three ...) that i party with, the rest of them has no incentive to be up and about, to dance, and so on. so the mood becomes rather dull.
l'uomo is at its best when there are about 10 to 15 guys in the boite. then all girls make great efforts to be noticed, and there is a fantastic party atmosphere.
on sunday ipm and t69 were meeting up with me at l'uomo. when vonia sat down with me and asked for a drink, she got whiskey (20r) & red bull (16r). i don't mind to do this occasionally, but ipm pointed out correctly to me that this one drink cost me more than what i paid to have 20 minutes of hot sex the night before at vm. food for thought ...
of course, i also had another girl, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url], sitting on my other side, and she was also drinking on me (cocktail bellini, bargain at 20r). yes, since i got there at 4:30 the entrance fee was only 30r. but since i was drinking with two girls, the combination of drinks and entrance fee ran about 200r by the time i had to leave at 7 pm. which made it more expensive than the previous night at centaurus, where i paid 120r entrance, but then had incredibly cheap drinks (and a lot of them!). in other words, it is much easier to be a "big spender" and buy lots of drinks for the girls at centaurus than it is at l'uomo now. big problem for l'uomo in the long run.
of course, the 40-min sessions with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] and vonia were 240r each, and so much more reasonable than the centaurus prices, but still ...
for me the prices are still not a problem, because i come to rio so rarely that i can go all out every time. i don't mind spending about $2k on "fun" on each of those outings, which is much less than what i have left at poker tables in vegas on occasion, for example. but i still do not want to get the feeling that i am being hosed. i am not so much price driven, but adventure driven when i go explore other venues like vm. but i consider l'uomo my "home" in rio, at least on the weekends, and so it is sad that they have decided to go with the business model i described above. maybe one of you regulars at l'uomo could discuss the benefits of lower drink prices (more volume sales, more guys, happier girls, better business ...) with management ...
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Exactly. More precisely from Paris. A city that any single girl on the planet dreams to visit.
Say the word "Paris" and watch a girl eyes light up as her legs spread apart ever so slightly in an uncontrolled response.[/QUOTE]This is a joke, right? Not even in Malaysia, home of the world's most fugliest people could this be considered a model. Except to you, 'the dude with the Berluti shoes and Cortigiani shirt sitting at the corner, sipping Beluga vodka, and flirting with girls passing by.' lol. 25 reales at Villa Mimosa.
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[QUOTE=Euro100]. Maybe one of you regulars at L'uomo could discuss the benefits of lower drink prices (more volume sales, more guys, happier girls, better business ...) with management ...[/QUOTE]
The Luomo business model just sums up the was they do business in Brazil. No one is going to change anyones mind, especially someone from outside Brazil.
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[QUOTE=Euro100]Well, I think that L'uomo is following a dangerous path to a flat-out wrong business model. They have fewer customers; so they ramp up prices to keep profits high; which leads to even fewer customers. I have been there when I was the only guy in the boite for at least an hour straight. Now, this may seem like paradise, 1 guy and 20 smoking-hot girls. But I cannot service them all :D For the girls there is then too low an earning potential. As soon as I settle on one or two (or perhaps three ...) that I party with, the rest of them has no incentive to be up and about, to dance, and so on. So the mood becomes rather dull.[/QUOTE]
Euro I agree with your post completely, but as Bubba says they aren't going to change, sad really.
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[QUOTE=Langer]Euro I agree with your post completely, but as Bubba says they aren't going to change, sad really.[/QUOTE]Been chatting with a few of the girls this week. They are not getting the return from their efforts at the terma. A few a have just decided to throw in the towel. The termas pimps are now forced to recruit at lower quality. For those of us gentleman that have been on the P4P circuit for years have noticed the drop in quality at the termas. It only effects the QTF crowd, for those that have been around for a while and have a bit more knowledge, it is working in our favor. Bring on the ass grabbing "pão duro" F**K whits. Just clears the field and less money for the pimps.
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[quote=Puta Playa]Christopherd, hello. You have been quiet
as of late and I suspected that you might
have retreated to the monastic lifestyle
somewhere in SEA or been shot by a
jealous husband. Guess you finally got
your login problem solved! Welcome back. Do you mean athletes foot is the
only thing you've caught in VM, or all
together after your ~hundreds of pros?[/quote]
Hi PP - yes, login probs solved ta. Yeah, never caught an std in Brasil touch wood. Last time I got the clap was years ago from a lovely European pro giving me BBBJ of all things. Looking forward to carnaval in Bahia.
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[QUOTE=Langer]Euro I agree with your post completely, but as Bubba says they aren't going to change, sad really.[/QUOTE]
At least L'uomo and MC offer specials that can lower your price. Go in early and session before 5, I think, and they waive the entrance at L'uomo. (They have always had a sliding scale on the entrance depending on how many sessions you do. If I remember correctly, after 3 you don't pay the entrada.) MC has the frequent fliers deal that is supposed to give free entrance after you spend R700. However, I have spent that and haven't gotten my discount yet. Note to self to pursue this next time. Other places just set the price and that is it.
I'm thinking of Centaurus here who still insist on the money up front. If I go there, I don't argue anymore because it is pointless and gets me in a bad mood which is not what you want if you are about to blow a large amount. I just pay it and go in because I am sure I will find a stunner there. But it still pisses me off if I think about it, just the principle of the thing and the arrogance. But, one thing for sure, it keeps out the gropers. Maybe 4X4 should give it a try. But maybe they make a lot of money that way.
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[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]
I'm thinking of Centaurus here who still insist on the money up front.[/QUOTE]
I have never paid the the full amount up front. In fact you are the only one that I have heard of that has had to pay it after asking it to be waived. Don't know why this is.
The only time I was asked to pay the full amount upfront I didn't go in. That night they said "we are so full we don't have the time to keep having guys come down and pay the difference before they take the girl". My friend went in and was totally ripped off. He paid all upfront, then grabbed a girl after about 30 minutes and booked a cabine. He was still waiting after another hour for the cabine to be free, he couldn't wait any longer because his girlfriend was due to get to his apartment after work. Do you think he got a refund, of course not. They are complete assholes at the front counter.
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First time in rio
Hi,
I will go to Rio in few weeks and I never been there.
My friend were used to go To Help but now help is closed so what I would like to ask you is:
Could you tell me where is now the right place to be?
Where are parting all the help s girls? I mean where is right now the Movida?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]I have never paid the the full amount up front. In fact you are the only one that I have heard of that has had to pay it after asking it to be waived. Don't know why this is.
The only time I was asked to pay the full amount upfront I didn't go in. That night they said "we are so full we don't have the time to keep having guys come down and pay the difference before they take the girl". My friend went in and was totally ripped off. He paid all upfront, then grabbed a girl after about 30 minutes and booked a cabine. He was still waiting after another hour for the cabine to be free, he couldn't wait any longer because his girlfriend was due to get to his apartment after work. Do you think he got a refund, of course not. They are complete assholes at the front counter.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it is my shifty appearance. I have actually walked out twice when they first started this crap on me but like you say, they are completas at the front desk. I explained to them that I had been coming there for a long, long time, more than 15 years, but they didn't care if I walked or not. So, I decide if I am going to go or not and just put it out of my mind.
They have actually been doing this to customers for a long time. I remember years ago them asking for it up front from some guys coming in as I was leaving. I don't know how I got to this low status but I am there. Maybe it is because I have become so good at dressing down, they think I don't have the money?
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Centaurus entrance fee
It may simply have something to do with [i]when[/i] you arrive, not how. We were told on the phone that if we made it in before 9 pm, they could waive the full fee for us, and we would only have to pay the 120R entrance fee. I can see that they think that nobody can withstand several hours of the garota onslaught inside. Whereas when you arrive at 11 or midnight and do not find something suitable right away, you may be tempted to just not have a session. In order to avoid this, they may insist on the full fee including the session fee much more stringently for the late arrivers.
... just a theory ... but based on one single data point ...
euro
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Mongers-
I've probably been to Centaurus about ten times over the past year and each time they never made an issue about only paying the entrance fee. They certainly do not offer up the possibility of only paying the entrance fee, as upon entering the receptionist states it is R$ 450 (or whatever the price du jour is) which includes the services of one girl. About half the time I wasn't sure if I was going to session (hangover, feeling unmotivated) so I requested to only pay the entrance fee and they never hassled me about it. Interestingly enough, each time I paid the entrance fee I did end up taking a girl and thus had to go pay at the front desk before going with the girl.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
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[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-
I've probably been to Centaurus about ten times over the past year and each time they never made an issue about only paying the entrance fee. They certainly do not offer up the possibility of only paying the entrance fee, as upon entering the receptionist states it is R$ 450 (or whatever the price du jour is) which includes the services of one girl. About half the time I wasn't sure if I was going to session (hangover, feeling unmotivated) so I requested to only pay the entrance fee and they never hassled me about it. Interestingly enough, each time I paid the entrance fee I did end up taking a girl and thus had to go pay at the front desk before going with the girl.
Suerte,
Rock Harders[/QUOTE]Gentlemen, knowing Centaurus and its managers since 1995 I can say that the rule for newebies is: pay the whole entrance fee before (pay per view. And then take 1 girl to have 40'cabine sex), but, if they see you several times and realized that you spend enough money to be considered a regular they only charge the plane ticket entrance (actually R$ 120) and you pay all the girls/drinks when you leave.
To be honest in my experience, having been there more than 200 times, it's very difficult to leave Centaurus without any action (more than 80/100 carioca girls everyday, 10 % of them are 8-10').
Regards
D. C.
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[QUOTE=My Friend]
Where are parting all the help s girls? I mean where is right now the Movida?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Balcony/Dolce Vita. Check typical prices here to make sure you're not getting ripped off. The Zona Sul termas prices you see below are not representative of the cost of good sex in Rio. Your first day in town, freerange girls will smell the newbie on you for a km and may try to play you with high prices and/or lowered services. They hang out in that part of town specifically because guys in that area can be typically worked for more money than elsewhere in town. IMO, best to start elsewhere to get off to a gain a footing and then try Zona Sul. I'd recommend that you take the 455 Copacabana-Meier bus from Ave. Nossa Senhora Copacabana and hop off after Candelária Church, can't miss the big dome. Hail a cab to take you 5 mins to 4x4, 44 Buenos Aires. Take a girl back before 5 and the entrance fee is waived. RTF for more info. If you start out this way, you're almost guaranteed a good session, plus you've learned the bus to the many low priced treasures of the Centro venues and VM. Then when you go back to Copa, you'll be oriented and have good baseline expectations on quality and service when you deal with your freerange girls. Don't be afraid to send a girl back with just taxi money if she's not meeting providing the 4x4 level of service at the typical ladybar prices given here by the ladybar guys, there are lots of fish in this sea.
[QUOTE=Fred100]Been chatting with a few of the girls this week. They are not getting the return from their efforts at the terma. A few a have just decided to throw in the towel. [/QUOTE]
And what did they propose to do for cash when they threw in the towel? My employer keeps the about 70% of my revenue as well, but I still make a lot of money relative to the average person, like a GDP, and am not about to quit and go work at a juice bar or something. And I wouldn't call it exploitation, even though I end up having a lot of sex due to work, sometimes it's with girls that annoy me or might be dangerous to my health, and I get to keep only a small fraction of the money that I'm bringing in. :)
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Centaurus payment
Hi,
I have been a holiday regular at Centaurus for about a decade.
Standard payment for foreigners is to pay entrance and one 40 minute program upfront. Current price is R450.
Locals and foreigners who are regulars can pay just the entrance fee upfront. Once you pick a girl - and we all know that you will - you go downstairs to the reception to pay before you head up to the rooms.
A few locals and even fewer foreigners who are very well known at Centaurus are allowed to settle the entire bill upon exit. I find myself in this category but this is after many many years of knowing the managers.
Junior
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[QUOTE=John Cricket]What pisses me off is that antis- are full-bored Marxists when it comes to sex work, but no other form of work.[/QUOTE]Well, that's not entirely accurate. There are elements from BOTH the left and the right that work together on "anti-prostitution" laws and policies. It's just their reasoning and/or motivation that differs. For the left, it's about stopping "exploitation" of women (e. G., NOW) and for the right, it's more about promoting certain religious or societal "values" (evangelical groups, etc.) since men searching for carnal pleasures outside the marriage or girlfriend framework is somehow bad for the society.
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[QUOTE=Junior]Hi,
I have been a holiday regular at Centaurus for about a decade.
Standard payment for foreigners is to pay entrance and one 40 minute program upfront. Current price is R450.
Locals and foreigners who are regulars can pay just the entrance fee upfront. Once you pick a girl - and we all know that you will - you go downstairs to the reception to pay before you head up to the rooms.
A few locals and even fewer foreigners who are very well known at Centaurus are allowed to settle the entire bill upon exit. I find myself in this category but this is after many many years of knowing the managers.
Junior[/QUOTE]I most definitely am not a regular at Centaurus. On my infrequent visits I pay just the R100 entrance. The other R20 is the tourist tax (I´m a Brit, but I expect they think I am Brazilian). Never really understood the arrogance of this place. The BS of returning to pay for the session before kills it for me.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]My employer keeps the about 70% of my revenue as well, I wouldn't call it exploitation, even though I end up having a lot of sex due to work, sometimes it's with girls that annoy me or might be dangerous to my health, and I get to keep only a small fraction of the money that I'm bringing in. :)[/QUOTE]That´s just sad! Sounds like you need to change your pimp. I mean, your the one with the sore orifice and taking all the risk. I don't know, but I think you might be being exploited.
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I dont agree that they are being taking advantage of. They are provided a safe place to work and make more money than most brazilians. Google makes billions off their emplyees and the employees are able to make 100k or a million a year. The company has a right to make as much as possible. They take the risks and deserve the rewards. Start your own business. It´s not so easy.
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A trip to 4 by 4
last friday, the day before the romp with t69 and ipm (report here: [url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1053226[/url]), i managed to squeeze in a visit to 4*4. my first observation is that it was significantly less crowded than during my previous visits. not empty, mind you, but one could simply walk through the main boite without having to push lots of bodies aside; the vip boite upstairs was closed when i checked around 6. second observation, since the introduction of the electronic tag key system, there seems to be no more asking for tips from the barkeepers and waiters. third, the part of the main boite where the glass-walled shower was is now a simple stripper pole (not used all night …). and forth, sadly the strip shows have become much less wild, tame almost by comparison to what i had seen during previous visits.
i went to 4*4 my usual way, with the metro. this is the safest and fastest way to travel to centro from the copa in my mind. plus it is cheap: 2.8r is the price for a single fair now. since i always select the premier copacabana hotel right at the sequiera campos metro station, it does not get any more convenient than using the metro to get to downtown. got off at uruguaiana, walked the 2 blocks, bingo.
the selection of girls was again great. less heavy on the ink and the big bunda than what i experienced previously, and more up my own personal alley of taste. i saw more than 50 girls, and at least 30 of them were eminently doable for me, with 10 or so with looks that put them right into my wheelhouse. my caipiroska and i took our time and made the rounds. chatted with a couple of really pretty girls, but didn’t feel the greatest vibes and so moved on.
then i saw a girl in an entirely different category. long legs, tight body, well-proportioned rack (not quite ipm-preferred type of huge headlights, but still …), a flawless face, with perfect teeth and ice-melting smile. medium-light skinned mulatta, looking a bit like whitney houston in her younger years. and her bunda just danced all by itself :d in a way that you can only see in brazil. her name is “funny” (i asked three times, and i think that this is really what she said.) she was dancing on the stage (with her clothes on) and spinning on that little trapeze thing. i was watching, mesmerized.
of course she noticed me, and of course she smiled and came over. she let her bunda grind against little euro in the rhythm of the music, again as only brazilian women can. my resistance was broken ;). instead of grabbing her by the hand and running off to a cabina like a bloody rookie, i managed to engage in a face-saving good half hour of chatting, drinking, dfk (super-hot, btw), and dancing. well, dancing is saying too much: she (or better yet: her bunda, which seemed strangely detached from the rest of her spine in its rocking motion) did all the dancing, and little euro was standing ramrod-straight and getting danced into. [yes, i am getting wood thinking about it.]
somehow most garotas seem to prefer the cabinas at the very end of the hallways, and so we had to wait a few minutes before our room was ready. we spent the time kissing and groping, which we then continued in the room. it was a great gfe one-hour session. pop one came way too soon. :(. i collapsed, we cuddled, and i think i even dozed off for a couple of minutes with her draped all over me. she woke me, and we went for round two. i had safely finished again about 5 minutes (rough guess) before the hour mark, but she was not done; so she urged me to continue. the phone rang, and she ignored it. another five minutes later, relief for her too. then we both took a quick shower in the room. there was definitely no clock-watching involved.
i went to the sauna, another shower, and relax room, before i returned to the boite. with my next caipiroska in hand i made my way towards the stage, and funny was dancing again. when she saw me, she smiled and took off her bikini top. i love brazil!!! she did a little show, seemingly just for me, then came over and had me hook her bikini top shut. special :). we chatted and kissed for a while, and of course i bought her another drink. then the regular strip show started. two really athletic performances from really pretty girls! i watched leaning against the front bar, i.e. from point-blank range. note in passing: one girl was fair-skinned and blond; for you friends of a lot of ink: she has a huge tattoo of something like a black panther on her hip, with the tail of the thing wrapping around her bunda and extending into her crotch. must have hurt like shit to get this tattoo. i found it kind of off-putting, too, but not so much that i did not let her dfk me after her show. the other dancer also came over and ground up against me and engaged in dfk. the three of us had a round of drinks, and i felt like a king. and then funny came back up from the whiskeria.
well, i am guessing that panther-girl and the other stripper were not exactly funny’s friends. funny moved in, shielded me from the other two girls with her body and reclaimed territory on me via a great dfk effort. i let her :d, and the other two girls somehow just moved on. after another half hour of drinking, kissing, and chatting i decided that i wanted to catch a metro before 11 pm. i told funny that i wanted to go. she said i walk with you. i said i am fine. she said “no programa; just walk with you”. hmmm, ok, so took my hand like we are a couple of young lovers, and she walked me right into the locker room and kissed me goodbye. the old locker room lady smiled broadly. gdp-jealousy is a beautiful thing to behold. too bad i only had a couple of days in rio; or else something more long-term might have been possible with funny.
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Centaurus
I have to admit, all this Centaurus talk on these boards piqued my curiosity. I told myself I would never set foot in a place like that strictly out of principle - I'm not down with the whole paying everything up front crap. Well, it's the principle and more so the [b]exorbitant[/b] prices!
I landed in Rio yesterday and made a trip to 4x4. For the first time ever, I did not see anything I liked over there and I was there from 7p-9p. I'm probably the first monger ever to land in Rio in the morning, have plenty of time to rest up, and not session the first night! Ha. Anyway, I figured since I didn't session the first night, I'll just give Centaurus a go. It wouldn't necessarily be blowing my budget out of the water, I having not sessioned the night before and all.
So I get to Centaurus on a Thursday night around 8:30p. This place happens to be 2 blocks from the apartment I am staying at in Ipanema. I figured this will be a one-shot deal - go in, pick someone you vibe with, do a session, and try to pull her out of the terma for some possibly lower cost programas. Well, lower cost is relative of course. Any outside programma will be lower than paying for 40 mins at an upscale Zona Sul terma, which are all $R310 and above unless you get in early for a discount (Luomo, MC) or it's some weekly coupon special (MC, Solarium).
I pay upfront the R$450 gringo price. I knew what I was getting into and was planning to session anyway, so no argument from me to the front desk. Inside the boite, I would say there are about 60 girls there and maybe 25 guys. The ratio was quite good. As far as the talent pool, I'll have to admit that I am pretty impressed. There were a handful of 9's and plenty of 8's. Pretty much a notch above Solarium. I also noticed that a lot of girls there speak a fair amount of English, mostly learned in the boite I reckon.
Since these girls know most customers already have the programa locked into their entry fee, they are pretty damn aggressive here. First girl I meet and she latches on pretty tight. She was quite cute though, reminded me of porn star Micah Moore. I talked to her for a bit, then walked around some more. For some reason, I ended up back talking to that same first girl - Cindy. Had a pretty good vibe from her, I guess. After some drinks, we went up to the cabine for a 40-minute session. The cabine was quite roomy, had nice decor, and a nice full size bed. As for the session itself, it was nothing special or wild. More like love making, which I enjoy also. So I got her number and figured I would try to make plans with her in a day or 2.
I went back down to the boite just to look around and savor the moment. After all, I'm not coming back to Centaurus again. Or will I? Damn, I wish I were rich and that these prices didn't matter to me! It would be my favorite watering hole just purely on the stone-cold stunners there, I think. I ended up running into an old friend from another terma. We sat down for a drink and did some catching up. Of course the girl Cindy that I sessioned with came down and saw me with this other girl. She's probably mad, but oh well. I was just chatting with the other girl, so we'll see.
In conclusion, I would say I really like Centaurus and if I were independently wealthy, I would definitely frequent the place.
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]I have to admit, all this Centaurus talk on these boards piqued my curiosity. I told myself I would never set foot in a place like that strictly out of principle. I'm not down with the whole paying everything up front crap. Well, it's the principle and more so the [b]exorbitant[/b] prices!
I landed in Rio yesterday and made a trip to 4x4. For the first time ever, I did not see anything I liked over there and I was there from 7p-9p. I'm probably the first monger ever to land in Rio in the morning, have plenty of time to rest up, and not session the first night! Ha. Anyway, I figured since I didn't session the first night, I'll just give Centaurus a go. It wouldn't necessarily be blowing my budget out of the water, I having not sessioned the night before and all.
So I get to Centaurus on a Thursday night around 8:30p. This place happens to be 2 blocks from the apartment I am staying at in Ipanema. I figured this will be a one-shot deal. Go in, pick someone you vibe with, do a session, and try to pull her out of the terma for some possibly lower cost programas. Well, lower cost is relative of course. Any outside programma will be lower than paying for 40 mins at an upscale Zona Sul terma, which are all $R310 and above unless you get in early for a discount (Luomo, MC) or it's some weekly coupon special (MC, Solarium).
I pay upfront the R$450 gringo price. I knew what I was getting into and was planning to session anyway, so no argument from me to the front desk. Inside the boite, I would say there are about 60 girls there and maybe 25 guys. The ratio was quite good. As far as the talent pool, I'll have to admit that I am pretty impressed. There were a handful of 9's and plenty of 8's. Pretty much a notch above Solarium. I also noticed that a lot of girls there speak a fair amount of English, mostly learned in the boite I reckon.
Since these girls know most customers already have the programa locked into their entry fee, they are pretty damn aggressive here. First girl I meet and she latches on pretty tight. She was quite cute though, reminded me of porn star Micah Moore. I talked to her for a bit, then walked around some more. For some reason, I ended up back talking to that same first girl. Cindy. Had a pretty good vibe from her, I guess. After some drinks, we went up to the cabine for a 40-minute session. The cabine was quite roomy, had nice decor, and a nice full size bed. As for the session itself, it was nothing special or wild. More like love making, which I enjoy also. So I got her number and figured I would try to make plans with her in a day or 2.
I went back down to the boite just to look around and savor the moment. After all, I'm not coming back to Centaurus again. Or will I? Damn, I wish I were rich and that these prices didn't matter to me! It would be my favorite watering hole just purely on the stone-cold stunners there, I think. I ended up running into an old friend from another terma. We sat down for a drink and did some catching up. Of course the girl Cindy that I sessioned with came down and saw me with this other girl. She's probably mad, but oh well. I was just chatting with the other girl, so we'll C.
In conclusion, I would say I really like Centaurus and if I were independently wealthy, I would definitely frequent the place.[/QUOTE]Thanks!
I was trying to tell this group that the women are HEAD and SHOULDERS above but the price is crazy! I limit myself to once a trip and try to get a number for a outside session.
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Brazil's Child Sex Tourism Industry Is on the Rise!? Please comment
[url]http://humantrafficking.change.org/blog/view/brazils_child_sex_tourism_industry_is_on_the_rise[/url]
Please write some nasty comments on that site.
I was kicked out already, so you guys please comment. this is so absurd!!
Sorry for interrupting the flow here .........
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[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist][url]http://humantrafficking.change.org/blog/view/brazils_child_sex_tourism_industry_is_on_the_rise[/url]
Please write some nasty comments on that site.
I was kicked out already, so you guys please comment. this is so absurd!!
Sorry for interrupting the flow here .........[/QUOTE]
Same as always, but just more attention because of the Worldcup and OS.
Brazil always had this problem. IMO this is a majorly a domestic problem as the average gringo Rio-sextourist will not encounter this problem.
I think it's good if the police do a thorough clean-up in Fortaleza and Recife etc to scare away the the perverts.
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[quote=sperto]same as always, but just more attention because of the worldcup and os.
brazil always had this problem. imo this is a majorly a domestic problem as the average gringo rio-sextourist will not encounter this problem.
i think it's good if the police do a thorough clean-up in fortaleza and recife etc to scare away the the perverts.[/quote]
i beg to differ. where is **** prostitution on the rise? no way!!
if you don't go to truck stops in the middle of nowhere or other exotic places, you have a hard time finding a minor.
if you don't watch out you find an occasional potential minor, but very rare. that article is a total bs.
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Centaurus
I am not sure if that was mentioned here before, but the old bag who used to watch over the girls at Centaurus " Tia ??" has defected to 4x4 where I saw her last week. She probably got pissed off by the shitty management treatment that we all have faced.
Also, the gerente of MC terma who moved to 4x4 a couple of years ago is back at MC.
p.s. I belong to team : BOYCOTT CENTAURUS
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Mongers-
I never understood why some of you are aggressively anti-Centaurus and call for its boycott. Yes, it is the most expensive Termas in Rio de Janeiro. However, it also has the hottest white women of all the venues in Rio de Janeiro (by far IME). Centaurus management is not outrageously bad; they tell you what the price is and what it includes, and you get exactly what you pay for. Also, the drink prices at Centaurus are relatively low and the fuckrooms are large and include a full size bed. Essentially it is a high end venue offering a high end product at a (relatively) high end price. There are plenty of cheaper venues for those who don't want to or can't spend the money for Centaurus; this is fine, but don't get mad that there exists a high end venue for those who are willing and/or able to spend the money to enjoy it. Brasil is not a budget destination anymore and will not be for the foreseeable future.
Sorte,
Rock Harders
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[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-
I never understood why some of you are aggressively anti-Centaurus and call for its boycott. Yes, it is the most expensive Termas in Rio de Janeiro. However, it also has the hottest white women of all the venues in Rio de Janeiro (by far IME). Centaurus management is not outrageously bad; they tell you what the price is and what it includes, and you get exactly what you pay for. Also, the drink prices at Centaurus are relatively low and the fuckrooms are large and include a full size bed. Essentially it is a high end venue offering a high end product at a (relatively) high end price. There are plenty of cheaper venues for those who don't want to or can't spend the money for Centaurus; this is fine, but don't get mad that there exists a high end venue for those who are willing and/or able to spend the money to enjoy it. Brasil is not a budget destination anymore and will not be for the foreseeable future.
Sorte,
Rock Harders[/QUOTE]
Amen to everything you said. Having finally gone there, it gave me some perspective. It's a place where if I could afford to go, I definitely would all the time as the choice of women are a notch above all the other upscale termas I've been to in Rio.
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It's their mercenary attitude
[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-
I never understood why some of you are aggressively anti-Centaurus and call for its boycott.[/QUOTE]
The first couple times I went to Rio, I went there, and yes, the girls were attractive, but the services was mixed. I even got CBJs there. The problem I have is with their mercenary attitude. Having you pay in advance for a girl sends the clear message that they don't trust you. If you want a second girl, you have to go to the front desk to pay in advance. To my knowledge, this is the only therma where they don't trust you to settle your bill when you leave, and their mercenary attitude really stinks. Yes, I understand if you are Brazilian or they know you, you don't have to pay the girl fee in advance, but you still have to pay when you enter.
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]Amen to everything you said. Having finally gone there, it gave me some perspective. It's a place where if I could afford to go, I definitely would all the time as the choice of women are a notch above all the other upscale termas I've been to in Rio.[/QUOTE]The last time I visited I was not overly impressed with the quality of the girls. I also have experienced more hard sell from the prostitutes at Centaurus. This is always off putting.
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[QUOTE=One Eyed Man]The first couple times I went to Rio, I went there, and yes, the girls were attractive, but the services was mixed. I even got CBJs there. The problem I have is with their mercenary attitude. Having you pay in advance for a girl sends the clear message that they don't trust you. If you want a second girl, you have to go to the front desk to pay in advance. To my knowledge, this is the only therma where they don't trust you to settle your bill when you leave, and their mercenary attitude really stinks. Yes, I understand if you are Brazilian or they know you, you don't have to pay the girl fee in advance, but you still have to pay when you enter.[/QUOTE]
You are absolutely right. An iron clad rule for mongers should be, never pay in advance, whether in a termas or in your apartment/hotel room. No exceptions. If they can't trust me to pay after service is delivered, well, unfuck them, as Lenny Bruce used to say.
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Termas Cancun
[b]Monte Carlo Promotion[/b]
I was feeling lazy today so I decided to head to Monte Carlo to take advantage of their promotion - waive the $R70 cabine fee if you session before 6p (Mon - Fri). Of course I was mistaken and thought it was like Luomo's promotion where you just have to arrive before 6p. Anyway, I got there at 5:40p and asked about the promotion. The manager said that they tried it for 2 months but it is no longer available. I told them that it is still advertised on their website. If you go to their website, it says something to the effect of "Promotion of the Month: Afternoon Lightning - Going to the cabin until 18:00 you do not pay the ticket! (Monday to Friday)" He said "let me go talk to someone"...He comes back and says "you can have the $R70 fee waived just for today if you bring a girl to the room before 6p". Given that I screwed up on the timing and wouldn't even be able to choose a girl in time, I decided to leave of course. So yeah, I don't know what the deal with that promotion is now. I guess if you argue that it is still on the website, they'll let you have it.
[b]Plan B - Termas Cancun[/b]
So onto plan B - giving Termas Cancun one more try. I hopped on the Siqueira Campos subway and arrived at Cancun around 6:30p. Entry fee was $R50 but that included 2 free drinks, I think. The boite was pretty empty at first, with a bad ratio of 12 guys and 15 girls. The girls would keep funneling in and out, rotating from the Whiskeria to the Boite and so forth.
I sat around patiently till after 8p, where things picked up somewhat. There was a live band playing so the atmosphere was a bit better. By then, there were about 30 girls to 15 guys. I must say, out of the lineup, I only found about 5 that I would consider sessioning with, and maybe one 9 in the crowd. One sweet, petite spinner then came up to me. She was what I would classify as my type, but alas she was hyper-aggressive. No name introduction, just "let's go to the room". I asked if she wanted a drink and she said "no, let's go to the room". I said "no thanks". What a pity, because she was physically what I was looking for.
I was about to pull the rip-cord and exit but then started chatting up with a gorgeous blond named Lucy. She was thin on top and thick on the bottom, normally not what I go for. But her face made up for a lot and I was getting blue-balls just standing around, so we went to the cabine for an hour. The room was very nice, a notch above 4x4's 1-hour standard room. The session was above average I would say.
Upon exit, I had to pay R$240 for the one hour session and $R50 for cover. That's $R290! There's a scrolling LED board at the reception that has the prices, and it said $R220 for the 40-minute cabine, $R240 for 1-hour. So I didn't realize how [b][color=red]EXPENSIVE[/color][/b] even this place has gotten. More than 4x4! For some reason, I thought I read a recent report that Cancun was $R230, but maybe that was the price if you session before 5p. Anyway, I'm gonna go hit the prives next week to make up for this rapid inflation.
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Cancun
Make sure you check your bill carefully at Cancun. I went there twice last April and the first time they tried to charge me twice for the R30 entrance fee.
Last April it was 40min R200, 1hr R220, entrance R30.
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Centaurus is a business, and they have a certain business model. Their design is to keep people out, who just want to grope the girls and not session. They also want to keep the drinks relatively cheap and thus go high on the entrance fee. And they want to attract the best talent and thus have decided to charge the highest fees for the sessions. All of these are business decision that can be defended. Question is: do they work out? In the end, all that matters is how many men come to Centaurus under those conditions. And at least last Saturday there were quite a few men (~20-30) who were there; so they must be doing something right.
As for the best-looking white women being at Centaurus: yes, one can make an argument there, at least from the total number of really good-looking white women. To me personally the skin color is absolutely secondary; I dip my stick in everything from milk to espresso. But I still liked the sheer volume of eye candy at Centaurus. So I suppose that I will be back at Centaurus in the future.
BTW, Centaurus is not the only place that charges up front; VM does, too :D
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]Upon exit, I had to pay R$240 for the one hour session and $R50 for cover. That's $R290! There's a scrolling LED board at the reception that has the prices, and it said $R220 for the 40-minute cabine, $R240 for 1-hour. So I didn't realize how [b][color=red]EXPENSIVE[/color][/b] even this place has gotten. More than 4x4! For some reason, I thought I read a recent report that Cancun was $R230, but maybe that was the price if you session before 5p. Anyway, I'm gonna go hit the prives next week to make up for this rapid inflation.[/QUOTE]
If you want a cheaper terma, perhaps you could give 502 a try. It is at the corner of R. da Alfandega and Av. Rio Branco. In other words, very close to 4*4 and Cancun. A little bit more run down, smaller selection of girls, but I seem to remember that the prices start at ~80R for 20 minutes. Entry is real cheap; I think 10R. You don't take your street clothes off either (so it's not exactly a terma ...). I didn't session there this time in RIo, but I remember it was pretty good last year.
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[QUOTE=Euro100]If you want a cheaper terma, perhaps you could give 502 a try. It is at the corner of R. da Alfandega and Av. Rio Branco. In other words, very close to 4*4 and Cancun. A little bit more run down, smaller selection of girls, but I seem to remember that the prices start at ~80R for 20 minutes. Entry is real cheap; I think 10R. You don't take your street clothes off either (so it's not exactly a terma ...). I didn't session there this time in RIo, but I remember it was pretty good last year.[/QUOTE]
I was actually thinking about making a cheap terma run sometime this week too. Maybe hit 502, Aquarius 61, and Termas 81. I did a similar run a couple of years back - it's hit or miss, but I'm sure there are gems to be had. Never been to Termas 81 before, but I think I read some decent reviews here somewhere about it.
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[QUOTE=Euro100]Centaurus is a business, and they have a certain business model. Their design is to keep people out, who just want to grope the girls and not session. They also want to keep the drinks relatively cheap and thus go high on the entrance fee. And they want to attract the best talent and thus have decided to charge the highest fees for the sessions. All of these are business decision that can be defended. Question is: do they work out? In the end, all that matters is how many men come to Centaurus under those conditions. And at least last Saturday there were quite a few men ( 20-30) who were there; so they must be doing something right.
As for the best-looking white women being at Centaurus: yes, one can make an argument there, at least from the total number of really good-looking white women. To me personally the skin color is absolutely secondary; I dip my stick in everything from milk to espresso. But I still liked the sheer volume of eye candy at Centaurus. So I suppose that I will be back at Centaurus in the future.
BTW, Centaurus is not the only place that charges up front; VM does, too[/QUOTE]I can understand it at VM. Lots of low budget low life clientele, high risk of them doing a runner. The money is not an issue for me, paying up front at Centaurus is a mood killer.
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[QUOTE=Pussyhunter099]Make sure you check your bill carefully at Cancun. I went there twice last April and the first time they tried to charge me twice for the R30 entrance fee.
Last April it was 40min R200, 1hr R220, entrance R30.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I hope I didn't get ripped off, at least for the entry fee. She told me it was $R50 upfront. Maybe it's the gringo entry fee. Ha. Anyway, that's the same entry fee as what 4x4 is now. As far as the cabine prices, there's a scrolling LED board with the prices so at least I know those prices were accurate.
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Rio Trip Report Summary June 2010
Flew to Rio with TAM airlines from London Heathrow in June 2010, just short of £600. My first visit to Rio, Brazil and the continent of South America. Originally planning to stay in a beach front apartment with Gringo management but read more bad than good about this agency so went down the girl friendly hotel route and stayed at the Atlantico Copacabana hotel on Siqueria Campos. Good choice, and good location for around $100 a night.
I had a few months to research the place and try and get a list of venues to visit. I compiled my Rio Mongering hotspots map.
[url]http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105533684930997825392.00047f7f7ffcfa676d54c&ll=-22.974515,-43.15361&spn=0.111106,0.153637&z=13[/url]
This was going to be the post club Help era and reports were the mongering in Rio was on the decline. I intended to make my first visit many years ago in 2002 when my mongering career first began but the fear of crime always put me off. For me, on the ground there, this did not materialise, I found it surprisingly safe to walk around, although things could easy change in a split second if your in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Balcony
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The main concentration of garotas now was to be found at the Balcony bar Leme end of Av Atlantico, this apparently has taken over from Atlantico Terracato and Club Help with the small Dolce Vita nightclub next door. Years ago this bar was apparently the lowest in the pecking order but things change.
On my first night in Rio I met two girls in Balcony and we went to a short-time love hotel for a threesome 2 minutes around the corner for 50R for 2 hours. For taking two girls it was 80R. The Lido love hotel was very clean and roomy. These two girls were good fun although CBJ. 100R each.
A few days later, late afternoon I meet a very curvacious black girl in the Balcony and it was round too the Lido love motel for more of the same. Very good sex session with Rosie for 150R.
A few nights later one of the girls I meet from the first night introduces me to her friend a very sexy 23yo. Decided to take her back to the hotel and no problems signing her in. Once up in the room she was happy to stay all night for 200R. Some great sex sessions with her.
After trying the clubs one night and not scoring headed back to the Balcony to see what it was like after midnight, very busy while all the other bars along the Avenue were closed or empty. In fact Balcony really is the only show in town for meeting freelancer garota's. Three girls pounce on me in there, I like one but not the other two. They were getting their tits out in the bar and showing me their ass and pussy in the street, desperate for me to take all 3 of them into the Lido hotel, desperate for cash though.
I just take one back to the hotel, again 200R for TLN. Not such a good performer though, she initially wanted paying up front, she seemed a bit nervous unlike the ones before. But she relax and was ok to pay on exit. i guess mongers not want to pay her before because she not give good service.
On the day Brazil played their first match in the world cup again I watch the match at the Balcony, once kickoff the place was packed. I got friendly with a pretty maturer garota who chose to sit with me. After it was back to the hotel for another session, she wanted 300R for spending the afternoon and evening with me, but she left with 250R, she wanted to stay in contact, but im not interested, too expensive.
But I never failed to meet a girl I liked within a few minutes of arriving at the Balcony bar.
***** Beach
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Tried this one day opposite the Orthon hotel, but this area is a bit of a tourist trap. Was introduced to a couple of very sexy girls but was not keen on dealing with the middle man and not so convienent without the beach side apartment.
Termas
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My first Termas was Luomo on Siqueria Campos just up from my hotel. The price for entry was 60 Reals and for a 40 minute session with one of the garotas was 240 reals so 300 reals without drinks etc. Inside there were about 15 girls and I wanted to fuck them all. I take a Latino into the cabines and get a full on PSE with her. Afterwards spend some time in the bar and there was a couple of real young stunners in there with fantastic bundas, blondes blacks Latinas and Mulatos. Was intending to return here, a real nice laid back comfy place with some lovely girls.
Tried Monte Carlo Located just up from the Copacabana beach on Rua Hilario de Gouveia, was a Saturday night, told less girls working at the weekend. More girls inside than Luomo and more punters but not all top notch but still alot to choose from. Took a tall very curvacious black girl to the cabines for another PSE this one doing CIM. Price 70 reals admission, 170 reals for a 40 minutes session with one of the garotas, and then 70 reals for the room. Really enjoyed the saunas in here too.
Venture into Centro to try a Termas there, around a 100R cheaper here than Copacabana and many more Termas to choose from but the one to try is Quatro por Quatro 4x4 located at Rua Buenos Aires 44. Alot more busy in here plenty of girls to choose from I take a Latina too the cabines and she was very eager to please. The price - if I take girl before 5pm then entrance fee of 50 reals will be waived, the cost is 200 reals for 40 minutes including the cabine.
Clubs Boites
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Tried these one night most are located in and around Avenue Princesa Isabel Leme end of Copacabana. Sensoo had some real stunners dancing was very comfy inside and seemed all above board, 50R entry which includes your first two drinks.
Next I tried Barbarellas, again 50R entrance fee first two drinks free. Not what i was expecting, this place is much bigger than the other joints but has definately seen better days which is probably true for much of the mongering scene around Copacabana. Mostly average girls inside fully dressed asking 400R Iv seen better 100R girls in the Balcony.
Next Pussycats no entrance fee but 15R a beer, bit empty inside but a few doable girls inside, I found the clubs to not really be to my liking even though of course its all about money we like to try and forget that at least for a while, ok, some get too carried away with this idea and think the girls really like them.
That kind of sums up my mongering experience in Rio. Enjoyed myself very much. June is low season but the weather was perfect, the beach was the best and the scenary fantastic. Good healthy food at the Kilo resturants. The people very warm and friendly. Shame i missed its heyday.
My Rio youTube Video
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNbaexWRlKA[/url]
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]Yeah, I hope I didn't get ripped off, at least for the entry fee. She told me it was $R50 upfront. Maybe it's the gringo entry fee. Ha. Anyway, that's the same entry fee as what 4x4 is now. As far as the cabine prices, there's a scrolling LED board with the prices so at least I know those prices were accurate.[/QUOTE]
You were not ripped off. When they have live music there is a R$50 minimum consumption charge. When there is not live music the R$ 30 entrance fee applies, I believe they waive that if you take a girl before 5pm. The 40 minute girl+cabine fee is R$200. Hence R$230 is the normal 40minute + entrance.
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[QUOTE=SirMarjAlot]
My Rio youTube Video
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNbaexWRlKA[/url][/QUOTE]
Mike 'The Situation' would rank the chicks that you hooked up with as grenades, and landmines.
And speaking of grenades and landmines, Terma MC is full of them. Looks like they hired every favela girl that applied for a job in there.
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Heading back after a 2 yr. hiatus.
I think I visited various parts of Brazil 10 times in the past 8 years. Then I started dating an American girl. Certain things happened that would never happen in Brazil; like "my jaw is sore" (after a 10 min. BJ). Just didn't seem to know what to do with her hands. And certain things were just fuckin strange; like "I don't like saliva on my pussy".
W.T.F.!!!
My Boy and I arrive in a few weeks.
I have a question for you guys; Since Help seems to have gone for good, what are the "club-like" venues where the same sort of business is conducted?
I don't see much chatter about it.
There seems to be more small Centro casa action. We are both fluent and familiar with the place. So any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank God for the Forum!!!
Well, I just found SRMRJLAOT's post from yesterday. It not only answers my questions, it's one of the best reports I've ever read.
That dude is smooth!
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[QUOTE=Euro100]
BTW, Centaurus is not the only place that charges up front; VM does, too :D[/QUOTE]
Wrong.
No other place charges you for the program before you have seen the girl. Many places want your money before you start the actual deed but after you saw and chose the girl.
Even outcall escorts, you can send them back paying the taxi
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I Agree!
Yeah most of those chicks are nasty!
[QUOTE=Tiradentes]Mike 'The Situation' would rank the chicks that you hooked up with as grenades, and landmines.
And speaking of grenades and landmines, Terma MC is full of them. Looks like they hired every favela girl that applied for a job in there.[/QUOTE]
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The B*t*h map
[quote=bambino]
i have a question for you guys; since help seems to have gone for good, what are the "club-like" venues where the same sort of business is conducted?
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really there has been no substitute. some of the traffic has gone to the balcony bar but only the really rough stuff. the 3 or 4 times that i have passed the balcony bar it has been really bad. really scraping the barrel. the better help girls won't go there because the whole world can see in when they pass the balcony bar, it is too open. at least at help they had some protection from being inside a club.
in my opinion there is a lot less working girls in copacabana now. i personally spend most of my time in centro now. the usual big clubs but also there are a ton of smaller clubs where it costs r$10 to enter and if you go to say 3 or 4 you can fine a real cutie to your liking for less than r$ 100. bascially the small clubs only have 6 to 10 girls if they are lucky, but the quality is similar to that of the bigger clubs, they just don't have 50 to 100 girls where it is easy to find something you like.
don't ask me which clubs i go to specifically because it varies a lot, but just go this the " b*tch map" click on rio and it will give you a ton of choices in centro. just print it out and go for a wander.
[url]http://bitchmaps.com/index_en.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=J sceen]Yeah most of those chicks are nasty![/QUOTE]
C'mon guys, give him a break. He was nice enough to share his whole experience here. [b] SirMarjAlot[/b] is a very good writer by the way. There's a link to his mongering blog site (which covers other interesting parts of the world) in the recent "Reports Of Distinction" section, which is a very good read!
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[quote=bubba boy]really there has been no substitute. some of the traffic has gone to the balcony bar but only the really rough stuff. the 3 or 4 times that i have passed the balcony bar it has been really bad. really scraping the barrel. the better help girls won't go there because the whole world can see in when they pass the balcony bar, it is too open. at least at help they had some protection from being inside a club.
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you are right about this. i knew girls who had regular jobs during the daytime but they would work in help 2-3 times a week to make extra money. those girls would damn near sprint from the taxi to the entrance to help because they didnt want to take the chance of being seen. they loved working in help because they knew that regular brasilians would never go into help, so no chance of being seen by a neighbor or a co-worker. those same girls can never work balcony because its too out in the open.
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]C'mon guys, give him a break. He was nice enough to share his whole experience here. [b] SirMarjAlot[/b] is a very good writer by the way. There's a link to his mongering blog site (which covers other interesting parts of the world) in the recent "Reports Of Distinction" section, which is a very good read![/QUOTE]It is good, isn't it? Have you signed up yet for his for-pay site and accessed all of SenorMargelots great material?
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New Disco Opening....
My boots-on-the-ground reporter in Rio called me a few minutes ago with news that the word on the street is a new disco is opening somewhere between the Museo de Cine e Som and the Copacabana Palace Hotel, nearer to the hotel. Word is it will be bigger then HELP and will be open by October. I'll be in Rio next week for a 2 day recce run and see what I C. As with most things in Brasil/Rio, only time will tell.
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[QUOTE=Bambino]I think I visited various parts of Brazil 10 times in the past 8 years. Then I started dating an American girl. Certain things happened that would never happen in Brazil; like "my jaw is sore" (after a 10 min. BJ). Just didn't seem to know what to do with her hands. And certain things were just fuckin strange; like "I don't like saliva on my pussy".
W. T. F.!
My Boy and I arrive in a few weeks.
I have a question for you guys; Since Help seems to have gone for good, what are the "club-like" venues where the same sort of business is conducted?
I don't see much chatter about it.
There seems to be more small Centro casa action. We are both fluent and familiar with the place. So any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank God for the Forum!
Well, I just found SRMRJLAOT's post from yesterday. It not only answers my questions, it's one of the best reports I've ever read.
That dude is smooth![/QUOTE]THanks mate, really appreciate that, I'm a Rio newbie, but I did fall in love with the place and will definately return. I'm off to Thailand though September loads of venues there but all the girls are the same. Going to miss the Bundas. Thanks to Sperto too.
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]C'mon guys, give him a break. He was nice enough to share his whole experience here. [b] SirMarjAlot[/b] is a very good writer by the way. There's a link to his mongering blog site (which covers other interesting parts of the world) in the recent "Reports Of Distinction" section, which is a very good read![/QUOTE]Thanks I'm used to it. I'm glad I'm not too fussy. You can't miss what you don't know. There is some talent in Balcony, but need to be a bit of a regular in there to cross paths.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]You are right about this. I knew girls who had regular jobs during the daytime but they would work in help 2-3 times a week to make extra money. Those girls would damn near SPRINT from the taxi to the entrance to help because they didnt want to take the chance of being seen. They loved working in Help because they knew that regular brasilians would never go into help, so no chance of being seen by a neighbor or a co-worker. Those same girls can never work balcony because its too out in the open.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I agree. Help was a great venue for our hobby. I have yet to experience any post-Help action, since I was last there in Nov. 2009. Next week, I am due in Rio.
What is the status of the disco being built at the Meridien Hotel?
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Termas Solarium
[b]Coupon Monday[/b]
I always look forward to Mondays on my Rio trips more than any other day. It's one of the only times I ever go to Solarium. As they have raised prices, they have also lowered their discount for Mondays. It used to be a discount for the full price of a 40-minute cabine ($R70 at the time). Now it's only 50% off the price of the 40-minute cabine, which now comes out to $R40.
I figured 6:30p would be a good time to get there. By then, all the girls on every shift should be on duty. I hopped on the 512 bus from Ipanema Posto 6, which took 35 minutes to get to Jardim Botanico. Nowadays, I always take the bus to Solarium because frankly, everything is getting so expensive around here! If I take a cab, it will end up being probably $R35 round trip instead of $R4,70. As Hughdad once aptly put it, it's [i][color=red]trimming the price of trim[/color][/i], and I'll do it anyway I can with coupons, cheap transportation, etc.
Once I got into the boite, there didn't seem to be that many girls. I don't know if it is because it is winter right now, or it's cold and rainy outside, but I think at its peak tonight, there were about 22 girls. Seems more like volume for a Sunday night. I thought there usually is closer to 40+ girls on weekdays there. One plus was, at 9:30p, there were 20 girls and only 5 guys in the boite, so a really good ratio. The downside was the atmosphere was kind of a dud. The lineup was good, but I wouldn't say as good as in the past. There were probably 3 girls I would definitely session with in the future, and a only a couple of others I would put on my reserve list.
I ended up taking Suzy to the cabine. I sessioned with her before and it was pretty memorable. She's tall, with dark hair and amazing green eyes. This session was very good (9/10). Of course I inquired about programma at my apartment and we kicked around some prices. She kept wanting $R300 for 1 hour, saying she has to travel far from work to my place so it would eat into her profits. I politely said I'd think about it, which means I ain't gonna do it. I guess logistically, it would be better for me to try to pull a Centaurus girl since she has no travel expenses to my apartment - it's only 2 blocks away! Ha.
So the damage for the night, with the new pricing structure was:
$R160 - girl
$R80 - cabine
$R70 - entrance
($R40) - cabine discount from coupon
Total [b]$R270[/b]
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Centro Massagens
i woke up early today to go to centro and hit some of the more affordable massagens on rio branco. i wanted to get there before 11a to hopefully see a full lineup at these places before the lunch rush hour. i took the subway metro to the carioca station exit. i arrived right at 11a.
these massage places are generally in the big office buildings and most seem to be on a floor that is not directly accessible by the main elevator. for instance, to get to suite 3320, you have to take the main elevator to floor 32 and then take a service elevator to floor 33.
so i started hitting these places in ascending order. felt a little like bruce lee in the "game of death" as he steadily went up each floor of the pagoda to meet his opponents.
[b][color=blue]rio branco 156[/color][/b]
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[b]mariana massagens (#1216)[/b]
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i was greeted by priscila, who was the only girl available. she said there are 3 other girls working but they would not arrive until noon. this is priscila:
[url]http://www.espacoterapias.com.br/priscilaterapeuta/index.htm[/url]
based on gpguia.net, there's another fairly attractive girl geovana that works there but has gotten neutral reviews.
[url]http://www.espacoterapias.com.br/geovana/index.htm[/url]
i told her i would come back, even though i wasn't going to. price would have been $r80 for 40 minutes.
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[b]rio lux massagem (#1526)[/b]
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apparently, this is where some of the flavia massagens girls went. carla and duda are very popular on gpguia.net. i was greeted by duda. she was pretty cute. she said carla was occupied and the other 2 girls would arrive at noon. i told her i would come back later.
duda:
[url]http://www.elliterio.com/veranuncio.php?a=168[/url]
carla:
[url]http://www.elliterio.com/veranuncio.php?a=108[/url]
price would have been $r80 for 40 minutes.
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[b]duda massagens (#3320)[/b]
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this place has been pretty good to me in the past. i think there are at least 8 girls usually working. today, at around 11:15a, they must have been very busy. i sat down to see a lineup but only 3 girls were available. they said there were no rooms available and to come back in 20 minutes. i took off.
price would have been $r85 for 40-minute room or $r95 for 40-minute "suite". a 1hr suite would be $r115.
[b][color=blue]rio branco 185[/color][/b]
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[b]bellas massagens (#725)[/b]
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i was greeted by the mamasan here. she had me sit in a small room with a bed. more like a stall with a sliding door, as it wasn't fully enclosed on top so you didn't really have full privacy. i wasn't too thrilled about that setup.
for the lineup, there were only 4 girls available. 2 fatties and 2 decent ones, with debora being fairly attractive. the lineup was kind of surprising because their website shows some girls with nice bodies. but we all know how that goes. i didn't like what i saw and told her i would come back. price would have been $r80 for 1 hour and $r60 for 30 minutes. maybe the 1 hour option gives you an enclosed room. the place seemed so small, so i'm not sure.
this is their website: [url]http://www.bellasmassagens.com/[/url]
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[b]feitico feminino (#729)[/b]
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same setup as bellas massagens. sat in a "stall" with a bed and saw the lineup. this one was pretty awful. 4 fatties and one decent one. price would have been $r65 for 40 minutes.
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[b]bel prazer (#2114)[/b]
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my last stop was here. even during lunch hour, i was presented with a good lineup of about 8 girls. i think they have about 20 working. i opted for a 40-minute session for $r80 with drica. you pay upfront once you choose the girl.
the room i chose was nice and clean. it didn't have an ensuite shower since i chose the 40-minute one, so i took a shower in one of the bathrooms across the hall. this girl drica had a cute face and an awesome body, and that was about it. the session was a real dud. felt like tijuana style, kind of rushed. there was cbj and no kissing - the 2 kisses of death for me. so i got it all over with in 20 minutes, got dressed and left.
i had a good experience here before, so i'll definitely be back. i'll just chalk this one up as an aberration. i saw a few other girls that weren't presented in the lineup but were walking around to get ready to shag a customer that i would definitely choose next time.
as you can see, drica does have an awesome body:
[url]http://www.belprazer.com/drica/drica.htm[/url]
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Bruce Lee
Excellent work there Bruce Lee. It is kind of fun to go for a wander through Centro. Definitely can find some gems there, takes a bit of work, but is fun.
I have been to maybe 30 places in the last months, generally go to Centro once or twice a weeak and search out 2 or 3 new places, if I don't find something I go to a regular. Have found about 5 really cute girls that I have or intend to repeat. These girls would be among the top earners at the best zona sul termas if they worked there, I have been paying R$110 - $120 including entrada per session.
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[quote=azn safado]i woke up early today to go to centro and hit some of the more affordable massagens on rio branco. i wanted to get there before 11a to hopefully see a full lineup at these places before the lunch rush hour. i took the subway metro to the carioca station exit. i arrived right at 11a.
these massage places are generally in the big office buildings and most seem to be on a floor that is not directly accessible by the main elevator. for instance, to get to suite 3320, you have to take the main elevator to floor 32 and then take a service elevator to floor 33.
so i started hitting these places in ascending order. felt a little like bruce lee in the "game of death" as he steadily went up each floor of the pagoda to meet his opponents.
[b][color=blue]rio branco 156[/color][/b]
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[b]mariana massagens (#1216)[/b]
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i was greeted by priscila, who was the only girl available. she said there are 3 other girls working but they would not arrive until noon. this is priscila:
[url]http://www.espacoterapias.com.br/priscilaterapeuta/index.htm[/url]
based on gpguia.net, there's another fairly attractive girl geovana that works there but has gotten neutral reviews.
[url]http://www.espacoterapias.com.br/geovana/index.htm[/url]
i told her i would come back, even though i wasn't going to. price would have been $r80 for 40 minutes.[/quote]woah those girls are pretty hot. do these girls do an actual oil massage or do you get straight to business? how are these places different from termas aside from the price?
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[QUOTE=Joe Shmoe]Woah those girls are pretty hot. Do these girls do an actual oil massage or do you get straight to business? How are these places different from termas aside from the price?[/QUOTE]
No massage at all. Pretty much straight to some foreplay and sex.
In the Termas, you wear a robe and go into a "boite", which is like a bar area with extended sofas and all of the available girls are in their bikinis. In the boite, you can interact with them and usually make out with them before taking them back to a room. Conversely, in these "massage" places, you only get greeted by each available girl with a brief name introduction, and you take a leap of faith and pick one.
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]No massage at all. Pretty much straight to some foreplay and sex.
In the Termas, you wear a robe and go into a "boite", which is like a bar area with extended sofas and all of the available girls are in their bikinis. In the boite, you can interact with them and usually make out with them before taking them back to a room. Conversely, in these "massage" places, you only get greeted by each available girl with a brief name introduction, and you take a leap of faith and pick one.[/QUOTE]
You are doing some great reports, Azn. Really good stuff to find back here on the forums.
-Cartman
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Rio - Salvador
I have a question about going from Rio - Salvador, so I hope this is the right forum. I will be in Rio in early November for several days, but I plan to go to Salvador for 4 days during that time (from Santos Dumont). I already have purchased my international ticket. However, should I buy the Rio-SSA ticket here (in London), or should I wait till I get to Rio on Sat 30th Nov, and then buy the domestic ticket for Monday Nov 1? I'm sure there will be more choice once I'm there, but I'm notsure. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Rio - Salvador ticket
I have a question about going from Rio - Salvador, so I hope this is the right forum. I will be in Rio in early November for several days, but I plan to go to Salvador for 4 days during that time (from Santos Dumont). I already have purchased my international ticket. However, should I buy the Rio-SSA ticket here (in London), or should I wait till I get to Rio on Sat 30th Nov, and then buy the domestic ticket for Monday Nov 1? I'm sure there will be more choice once I'm there, but I'm notsure. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Hotel Intercontimental in Sao Conrado was invaded by gangs last night . They held all the guests and workers as hostages- including me.
Will file a report once the situation calms down. Pray for us.
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[QUOTE=Tiradentes]Hotel Intercontimental in Sao Conrado was invaded by gangs last night . They held all the guests and workers as hostages- including me.
Will file a report once the situation calms down. Pray for us.[/QUOTE]
Nice to see how they prepare ... for the Olimpic games.....
I hope you are ok and waiting for your report
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I am thinking of going to Brazil for three months. Does anyone know of a place that rents monthly that does not cost a lot. I have been getting rates of us 1500 and up for a flat or one bedroom. I would like to find someone that could share a two or three bedroom apt. Or house in the Rio area or perhaps another city in Brazil. I keep hearing that Rio is dangereious.
Any thoughts on Fortaleza or south near the Uraguay border.
Randy
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Gunmen invade luxury hotel in Rio de Janeiro
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/lt_brazil_violence[/url]
This is the situation that Tiradentes mentioned below. For those not familiar with Rio, the Intercontinental Hotel is located near Rocinha, the largest favela in Rio. The hotel is very nice (I stayed there on one of my first visits to Rio) and because of its large meeting rooms often hosts professional conferences.
The police have been driving a lot of the violence out of the favelas and one has to wonder if this will mean more violence in tourist and normal residential areas.
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Brazilian Porn Stars
I was hoping someone could help me out with information on how to get in touch with Brazilian porn stars. I have been several times and got "phone numbers" from abusa.com and some of the girls websites but the numbers don't seem to work. Can anyone help? I was trying to reach Pamela Butt, Fabiane Thompson Mayara Shelson among others.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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RegalSun - Ticket SDJ-SSA
Hi RegalSun,
there is a new airline in Brasil - AZUL - I flew just two weeks ago with them from Rio to Salvador for 140 BR one way incl. all taxes. Either buy it online or in Rio.
Carlos
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[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]Hi RegalSun,
There is a new airline in Brasil - AZUL - I flew just two weeks ago with them from Rio to Salvador for 140 BR one way incl. all taxes. Either buy it online or in Rio.
Carlos[/QUOTE]We flew them Goiania to Brasilia back in June. Excellent service. A little prop plane 24 seater. Cheap and bought ticket day before departure. They even fly onward to Minacu. Hope AZUL expands into more smaller cities.
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video of the shootout
This all started at 8a. (This was one hell of a wake-up call.)
Amateur video captured the moments before the hotel was invaded. Many shots fired and even a grenade exploded.
Per news reports:
Apparently a group of drug traffickers came upon a police patrol. In their attempt to escape, about 15 bad guys took refuge in the Hotel. Ended up taking 35 people hostage. After 3 hrs of negotiation, the hostages were released and 10 people were taken into custody. One of the those detained is the dealer "Perninha," considered to be the second man in command of trafficking in Rocinha.
4 Police officers were injured. The dead woman, according to Security Secretary Beltrame, was involved with drug trafficking in Rochina and was wanted by police. Eight rifles and five pistols were recovered. A grenade was found in a condominium next to the hotel.
[url]http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2010/08/imagem-de-morador-mostra-acao-de-criminosos-em-sao-conrado.html[/url]
[url]http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2010/08/cabral-elogia-atuacao-da-policia-em-tiroteio-com-refem-em-sao-conrado.html[/url]
[url]http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2010/08/eles-prometiam-que-nao-ia-acontecer-nada-com-gente-diz-refem-em-hotel.html[/url]
Group Mug shot of the 10 Criminosos
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Bad food
As if a shoot out is not bad enough...
Rio's version of the Health Dept was inspecting Casa de Sucos "Big Bi," on Rua Barata Ribeiro, in Copacabana, on 8/20. They found pieces of cheese, turkey breast, sweets, cakes, refreshments and soft drinks being served with expired dates. People eating there became angry and threatened to harm the owners. The inspectors had to intervene so that the owners were not lynched. There are eight other Big Bi in Zona Sul, they all are going to be inspected.
[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2010/08/20/clientes-tentam-linchar-donos-de-casa-de-sucos-em-copacabana-por-causa-de-comida-vencida-917442544.asp[/url]
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Mini Termas Run
Thursday night I decided to give a couple of the smaller Centro termas a look. I hopped on the subway metro and got off at Uruguaiana station.
[b]Termas 21[/b]
This one is pretty close to 4x4. Just walk down Rua Buenos Aires past 4x4, make a right on Rua Quitanda, then left on the next block at Rua do Rosario. Continuing on this block, you will pass a Rancho Inn and then see a small alley on the left. This terma is located in this alley at Beco das Cancelas, 21. There is a yellow canopy that says [i][color=red]Club 21[/color][/i] at the front entrance.
Once you enter the place, you are handed a key like most of the other termas. There is a very small locker room where you get into a robe. On the same floor, there are some pretty decent facilities - wet sauna, showers, etc.
As for the boite itself, it is a rectangle room with sofas on both sides of the wall, very similar to Monte Carlo's setup. There's a stripper pole right smack in the middle of the room and a girl will randomly go up there and just slide up and down. When I got there at 6p, there were about 12 girls and 12 guys. I gotta say this place is as dark as hell. I could not really determine how good any of the girls looked from a distance.
I ended up staying for about 30 minutes. I talked to one girl that was pretty old and ugly. She was nice, so I bought her a couple of drinks and one for myself to consume my free drink limit. As for the girls, I'd say there as maybe one 8 and the rest were 6's or below in this place. I don't think I would ever come back here. Total damage: $R20.
Pricing structure:
Entry: $R20, includes 3 free drinks
40 mins: $R135
60 mins: $R160
[b]Termas 81[/b]
This one is also pretty close to 4x4. Just walk down Rua Buenos Aires past 4x4, make a right on Rua Quitanda and go down a couple of blocks until you hit the address at Rua Quitanda 81. There will be a black canopy that says [i][color=red]81[/color][/i] at the entrance.
Once you enter the place, you are handed a drink card. The entry fee is good for 3 free drinks. You just enter the boite in your street clothes, ie, no changing into a robe. I guess it's similar to Termas 502.
The boite is also a rectangle room with sofas along the walls on both sides, except this room is a little smaller than Termas 21. The lighting was dark, but not as dark as Termas 21. At around 6:45p, there were 12 girls and 6 guys. It was really smoky in there. I could barely stand it. I bought one drink for myself, and one for some fatty that I talked to, who used to work at Termas Cancun. I would say there were a couple of more attractive girls here than Termas 21. There were 2 that I would consider sessioning with, but they were occupied. I ended up leaving after about 30 minutes. Would I ever return here? Maybe if it wasn't so smoky in there! It's a decent place to have a look to maybe find a gem and consume some drinks at a low cost. Total damage: $R10.
Pricing structure:
Entry: $R10, includes 3 free drinks
30 mins: $R70
40 mins: $R100
60 mins: $R130
[b]Monte Carlo[/b]
After getting back to Ipanema and grabbing a bite to eat, I tried to figure out where to go next. Since I hadn't tried Monte Carlo yet on this trip, I figured I would give it a go. I think I also have enough points for a free entrance.
I got to MC at roughly 10p. I put my finger onto the scanner and they said I had over 700 points based on past expenditures, so I would get free entrance ($R70) for that night.
Once I got into the boite, I have to admit, the place had a bit better selection than I expected, as it has been really hit or miss the past few trips, more on the miss side. There were 40 girls and about 20 guys in the boite, and the atmosphere was quite lively. I'd say there were about five 8's, and maybe one 9 out of the bunch. The rest were pretty average.
After hanging out for an hour, I settled in with this little spinner named Lia. Very cute and petite. Not a good nor passionate kisser in the boite. Uh oh. Red flag there. I should have just released her right there. But I found her very attractive and was hoping that it would somehow get better in the cabine. I should have listened to my instincts. This girl was a major dud in the sack. Seemed very timid and inexperienced. She said she worked at Centaurus for about a month, and MC for a couple of months so I guess she really was inexperienced. Some girls just aren't cut out for this business, and she seemed like one of them. Anyway, I was lucky to finally get some wood about 10 minutes remaining and hurried and got it over with. This is the last time I take a bad kisser to the boite. No matter how attractive she is, the bad kissing never gets better in the cabine and usually comes with an unenthusiastic performer, at least from the couple of times I have made this mistake! Haha.
Total damage was $R240 + drinks:
Girl: $R170
Room: $R70
Entry: Free (due to bonus points).
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Rentals for a few months
[QUOTE=Randall Lozier]I am thinking of going to Brazil for three months. Does anyone know of a place that rents monthly that does not cost a lot. I have been getting rates of us 1500 and up for a flat or one bedroom. I would like to find someone that could share a two or three bedroom apt. Or house in the Rio area or perhaps another city in Brazil. I keep hearing that Rio is dangereious.
Any thoughts on Fortaleza or south near the Uraguay border.
Randy[/QUOTE]
In South Zone in Rio, you have a hard time getting something for under R$ 1200 per month or so. Long term yearly rentals cost at least 400 to 600 Reais, but with condo fees, guarantor insurance, city tax you have a hard time staying under 1000. So your numbers are right. I occasionally rent to guests on a monthly basis, but have no intention to beat those prices, just you might get better internet, better service, personal attention. Send private message with your email&phone if interested.
There is a maior price difference for low and high season. High season is January to Carnival, about March. And July.
You might find better prices in Botafogo or Flamengo, Catete, downtown, much better prices in now pacified Zona Sul favelas or outlying areas where the girls live (they pay R$ 200-300 for a house), but you most likely would not want to do that (except Flamengo).
In other cities everything is cheaper, but not sure if you would find an apartment. I recently stayed in Porto Alegre in a decent plain hotel room for R$ 45 a day, could have gottten a dump for R$ 18 a day. Did not ask for weekly rates nor look for apartments. Should have written a report: lots of cheap aparment brothels to be found, and I believe higher class bars & termas are available.
Personally, I worry about potential key copies of apartments floating around. I was in Ilheus (not recommended for bad wh.oring and safety reasons) for about R$ 40 -50 a day in simple clean hotels.
Fortaleza is probably a good bet. Nice beach, good entertainment, nice apartments at decent prices. Not sure what is available for real cheap. Once you head into small towns, cheap poor area cities like Belem, Manaus, you proably get good pricing too.
I would have to write an entire book chapter about this, maybe you pm me with your phone number.
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Flight tickets to Fortaleza
[QUOTE=RegalSun]I have a question about going from Rio - Salvador, so I hope this is the right forum. I will be in Rio in early November for several days, but I plan to go to Salvador for 4 days during that time (from Santos Dumont). I already have purchased my international ticket. However, should I buy the Rio-SSA ticket here (in London), or should I wait till I get to Rio on Sat 30th Nov, and then buy the domestic ticket for Monday Nov 1? I'm sure there will be more choice once I'm there, but I'm notsure. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Last moment tickets probably are not cheap. Neither are foreign bought tickets. But maybe a flight directly to Fortaleza, in a single ticket.
I would check Brazilian airline sites, but they are complicated, not sure if they accept international credit cards. [url]www.voegol.com.br[/url] plus search for azul, Tam, webjet, etc. You also might have trouble if you lose the connection if your flight is late.
I get special offers from Gol, like half price, but that involves registration, and buying exactly on a Sunday when the Sale is on.
I would try: Brazilian Travel Agencies in the US (look for fliers, magazines, etc in consulate and Brazilian restaurants), Travel Agencies in Rio via phone ....
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Everybody safe following the São Conrado hotel invasion?
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]
[b]Termas 21[/b]
This one is pretty close to 4x4. Just walk down Rua Buenos Aires past 4x4, make a right on Rua Quitanda, then left on the next block at Rua do Rosario. Continuing on this block, you will pass a Rancho Inn and then see a small alley on the left. This terma is located in this alley at Beco das Cancelas, 21. There is a yellow canopy that says [i][color=red]Club 21[/color][/i] at the front entrance.
Once you enter the place, you are handed a key like most of the other termas. There is a very small locker room where you get into a robe. On the same floor, there are some pretty decent facilities - wet sauna, showers, etc.
As for the boite itself, it is a rectangle room with sofas on both sides of the wall, very similar to Monte Carlo's setup. There's a stripper pole right smack in the middle of the room and a girl will randomly go up there and just slide up and down. When I got there at 6p, there were about 12 girls and 12 guys. I gotta say this place is as dark as hell. I could not really determine how good any of the girls looked from a distance.
I ended up staying for about 30 minutes. I talked to one girl that was pretty old and ugly. She was nice, so I bought her a couple of drinks and one for myself to consume my free drink limit. As for the girls, I'd say there as maybe one 8 and the rest were 6's or below in this place. I don't think I would ever come back here. Total damage: $R20.
Pricing structure:
Entry: $R20, includes 3 free drinks
40 mins: $R135
60 mins: $R160
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I also went to 21 last week, was a monday hence very quiet. Theres an important tip for anybody, Monday sux as a centro terma run in the cheaper places - they are completely dead. Anyway went into T21 and robed up, there was 6 girls/things there. All below 5, just horrible creatures they were. Left after 1 beer.
Will try out 81 when next in centro.
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[QUOTE=Riofan6]My boots-on-the-ground reporter in Rio called me a few minutes ago with news that the word on the street is a new disco is opening somewhere between the Museo de Cine e Som and the Copacabana Palace Hotel, nearer to the hotel. Word is it will be bigger then HELP and will be open by October. I'll be in Rio next week for a 2 day recce run and see what I C. As with most things in Brasil/Rio, only time will tell.[/QUOTE]Let me know the details.
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Monthly rates in POA
I am going to POA for three months starting in December. Does anyone have monthly rental rates for this city. I am just looking for decent in a safe area. Also I would concider sharing a apartment or house to save a little money. I would hope that the rates in POA will be cheaper than in Rio. I am looking to spend in the $500 to $700 range. Is that possible?
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Major ticket price drop?
Has there been a major price drop in ticket prices for a trip to Rio for anyone else since the hotel shooting? I pondering a first trip in October and with these lower prices I might man up and try visiting this country that seem oh so great.
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Send me a note
[QUOTE=Randall Lozier]I am going to POA for three months starting in December. Does anyone have monthly rental rates for this city. I am just looking for decent in a safe area. Also I would concider sharing a apartment or house to save a little money. I would hope that the rates in POA will be cheaper than in Rio. I am looking to spend in the $500 to $700 range. Is that possible?[/QUOTE]Can't send you a personal message for some reason, but I might be able to help you. Send me a note if you can.
Rioguest
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[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]I also went to 21 last week, was a monday hence very quiet. Theres an important tip for anybody, Monday sux as a centro terma run in the cheaper places - they are completely dead. Anyway went into T21 and robed up, there was 6 girls/things there. All below 5, just horrible creatures they were. Left after 1 beer.
Will try out 81 when next in centro.[/QUOTE]This one -- 81 -- has them imported fresh from Novo Iguacu. Young, although many single moms. Rooms, which I checked out, are too disgusting to do anything onsite.