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[QUOTE=Wrong Info]It is not just Carmex and Wong info and that is easily found by just rading back thorugh the posts on this board. It is further told on many other boards, so it is not just us.
I kind of get a kick out of these boards to tell the truth. I read some that are as if a bar owner paid someone who can write to write a chapter from a novel and post it. What you don't see is the Bar Owners come out and say " I am a bar owner posting" and do you think for one minute they do not read these boards or post to them when they know for a fact that 100 % of the people coming there have ead them?
So we know they are posting as if they were people who have come there, and posting unrealistic expectations.
No one has said do not go there, just that there are many negatives you should know of, and as well there are much more enjoyable places than that tiny. Corupt. Dust bowl.
I am sure some of the posters that like to defend the goings on there woudl say it is not as corupt as I say---LOL.-- however that is just laughable.
The Philippines on a whole has been voted the most corupt in Asia for many years running. That is saying quite a bit when you cosider how corupt most of Asia is. To believe that a place that literally touts itself as " the sin city of the Philippines", in a place where prostitution is illegal, yet it is the make up of a good 80 % of its economy, you would have tbe a complete idiot to not be able to read between the lines of how corupt it is.
In fact to further the warnings. Some have even reported getting set up in recent bar raids going back to their hotel with a girl they rented from a bar, and the police stating the girl had told them she gave a statement to them she was taken for the pirpose of prostitution- and if the forienger did not ow pay the kind and concerned officer. He would be taken to jail!
This has said to have been ironed out and was only going onn during negotiations with the bars to pay highere extortion fees to the politicians running the zoo. Try and keep an open eye.
As there is a on going development of ways to seperate you from your money and in some cases jail you if neccesary.
It is aftere all 80 % of the economy in AC and who that lives there does not want to make a living?
Good Luck and try and not beleive Bar Owner Post that are full of shit![/QUOTE]
wow....what a post! It sounds like you think every positive post is most likely from a bar owner.
Im not sure what other boards you mean (maybe you cam PM me) but the two AC private boards I belong to arent reporting so many problems. In fact, in the last 60 days there have been close to zero complaints about scams since station 4's staff shakeup in December. There were over a dozen reassignments.
Its funny you mention nasty girls. On one of the boards there was a poll recently about how many girls have you snuck out/barfined that had nasty pussies...I think the total number was single diget. And there are 6 or7 expats on the board who live there fulltime...so i honestly dont think its an issue.
I would like to ask you, since this is a board to share info and help others, what bar had the scam of the girl saying she was prostituted and forcing the punter to pay? I highly doubt this happened. In all my years going to the phils, and belonging to 2 other boards, this is the first time i've heard of this. If this is a new scam it puts the girls and the bars at risk, and we need to be warned.
Im glad I dont seem to have the same luck you have.
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[quote=wrong info]
to those who want to go - i encourage it. life is definatey to short not to - however i also submit it imuch to short to waste time once you have been on places that offer less of a experience than thousands of other places including massage parlors in your own town...[/quote]
last time i visited the local asian massage parlor i paid $90 or uninspired hand job. 50 for the non existence plus $40 for the hj. there was a kfc next door and i was constantly hearing people ordering their fried shit and waiting for the cops to enter with the local tv station filming. hard to relax.
next time i am in manila i can take a detour to ac for a couple of days and choose from hundreds of women to have sex with (gfe style, whatever i want to do all night) for around $32. in the worse case scenario, she leaves (runner) after 1 shot.
$32 > $90
see you all in ac, if i manage to scrape together $64, i will be the white guy with the big smile and a gfe on each arm.
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[QUOTE=Redfield10]I made a reservation a month or so ago at the Pacific Breeze. The reservation is for this comig Sat and Sunday. I am in Manila now. Going to Cebu for a few days in a few hours.
Pacific Breeze confirmed my original reservation but said they'd send a follow up confirmation that I"m supposed to respond to. A week or so before. I've sent several emails to confirm but they have't sent any back. I decided not to get a phone and don't really wanna go through the hassle of calling them if I don't have to.
Can I feel safe that when I arrive on Saturday that they will have my room reserved? I have printed out the original reservation, but just never received their follow up in order to do the final confirmation.
Can anyone shed some light? Thanks.[/QUOTE]
This should be posted in the AC hotels section, but I will answer anyway. I believe your first reply from PB would say they will send you a confirmation email 4-10 days before arrival, so you still have a couple of days up your sleeve.
Secondly I have never had any troubles with reservations there before. Like another poster reported resently that he was sent to the wrong room at first, I have had that same problem once before. That was an hour after I waited for my room to be made ready.
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The Spin
wow. i have to sit after reading all the spin, some are even as creative in their fiction and spin writing to say that yes the things i say- can and do happen-, but that somehow it just should not be written about in the terms i have written. and that for some reason i am writing something that is awe full. so let me first say that if you have read back a few pages of my posts. yes i do talk a lot about the scams there as they are more than abundant and only happen a very few times. they are rampant and happen in some form to almost everyone that goes!
second lets kill the spin here. and if you read back you will see where i have "encouraged people to go if they haven’t been" just that it would not be anywhere near my first choice of places to go. even went as far in a post to let people know what i consider the best and cheapest way to travel on the " fly the bus", for as little as 400 pesos versus paying scammers like beeline travel 1000's of pesos for a service that many have complained about.
so kill the spin there and you can read between the lines to see my posts are acurate, you don't have to ask what bars as if you have read the posts then you know that it has been stated by myself and others, it is in most bars.
as for other posters saying; do not know of any scams after reading the local boards, and what bars did the scams happen in, and bar owners don’t post a lot. blahh blahh blahh-
lets kill these false hoods quickly and simply.
one of the local chat sites- which i refuse to mention by name to not promote them as they are nothing but propaganda for bar owners, hotel owners with hotels that don’t even have hot water yet claim they are a 5 star hotel, travel and tour operators that have multitudes of complaints, etc.
at any event the one site that was started by a local character named trance that was best friends with a character named dave fisher that started a lot of the bar scams with his bars lolipop- voodo- treasure island- etc.
was even themselves a poster in a round about way of saying what i post is true and that there are many with interests there posting falsehoods on these sites.
they had a moderator that went by the name of mavick. mavick was supposed a local filipino gotten lucky. he was a ex ac street kid that was fortunate enough to have gotten into the us military. ohh thank god for uncle same you ungrateful slouch. anyhow he was reported missing and it was then reported the reason why is he was arrested and being thrown out of the military for posting of illegal activities in ac.
it was further then reported that the way they caught mavivk and it came to the attention of his superiors, is that he was posting on line in that site and many others under false names, threatening to "knife people" who had anything negative to say about angeles city. this board now has as part of their rules of acceptance, that if you are current military you do not enclose or discuss illegal matters for your own good.
to make mattes worse and show you what kind of guy trance is. he and his buddy dave fisher would often allow the banning of members who said anything unflattering about their scams. in fact they even had a thread about a marine that was set up and charged with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. they seemed to allow any post that was against the marine who bar fined a bar girl and then was charged with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] this hooker, but if anyone questioned how a marine could get charged with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] a girl whom he had paid to have sex with. and that there certainly was some strong doubt if he was guilty. then people who posted in favor of the marine were banned from site.
what is real questionable about the marine [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] case, is that it happened in the subic bay area, and it was found and posted later by another bar owner. that dave fisher was indeed very active, and admitted he was indeed active, in paying to corrupt the subic politicians to protect his bar interest there. it seemed in my opinion, that they did not want to allow anything negative to be said about the c-suckers that were framing a kid for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] to protect his right to scam us and overcharge us on drinks when we go there and then he is all the while protected by police.
at about the same time some months later dave fisher claims he is selling his bars in ac and moving completely to subic. trance just before announces he is selling his site and will now be a moderator on his previous site. i do not believe for a minute that either is true. but a way to cover their tracks and make it appear they do not have a hand in the set ups and promotion of them,
now there are much and many more than 6 or 7 ex-pats that go to that other site, and this is why they have even developed a thread for people to talk about some of the things they don’t like and scams, as in my opinion they were all telling trance he was full of it to ban people for stating what they all know was true and factual, because he was butt buddy with bar owners. this is further reason why i believe trance also wants to distance himself from the board he started as many would rather spit in his face than have a drink with him because of it.
as for any spin that i may just be a newbie that does not know, or that posters saying to watch for scams and showing how to get around them are not knowledgeable. that is ridiculous. i have been going for over 10 years, and know as much or more than many of the current bar owners that have gotten scammed into buying a bar there.
i have been to them all thigh high, fire and ice which sucks, gentleman’s, all the way down to friendship and the cold drop and all the bars along the way. some are fun, much more fun than fields, and things can and do happen there to. if you are laughing and saying that stampedes is not a good bar, then you do not know jack squat! i am not trying to promote any one bar, but jimbo has always kept a great bar there, although as mentioned even that has gone down hill somewhat.
again go and have fun if that is what you want, but again always ask how much, check your drink tab, don’t tell anyone personal info about yourself, and if your vacation time is limited and you want lost of pussy without weeding through girls that will claim they are cherry girls and not fuck. you may want to choose another destination in the philippines or even elsewhere in asia.
when reading posts realize that it is free promotion to bar owners to post things that appear to make the bars and any underhanded happenings something you should just overlook, lol, if you do they will be sure to take as much as they can and give back as little as possible. at least half the posts on this or any other site are indeed people with interests there posting with an alias to hide there true intentions, it is their business and all who go will read it. what idiot would not say something good about themselves?
whatever you do. do not disclose to any girl you are military. you will then be a target most likely.
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Not Much really
[QUOTE=Laylow3]I was in PI for about 4 weeks in Dec. I let it be. I sent her off the next morning.
I didn't like Manila at all really except for Jane. I didn't get a chance to visit the infamous P. Burgos street but I don't know if I'm really missing anything. I don't think I would ever pay the prices they want just for pussy. To me pussy is pussy
P.S. I only wrote about the times that I actually got laid, I left all the other crap out. I hope I didn't bore anyone.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]As much as I enjoyy your report I find a few things a bit vague.
You say at one point that you had a great time and there was so much piussy etc - but according to your own report I can cound on one hand the number of times you acutally fucked someone - IN 4 WEEKS?
I also see where you say that you would not pay the prices they want in Manila as "pussy is just pussy" and not worth it - yet you said you paid 2000 pesos for a thick waitress or something in AC - man that is more than I have ever heard of anyone paying there, and seems they were trying to seel you a waitress or mamma and not even a good ole bar girl - maybe becuase they were all cherries or whatever , but IMHO if you were willing to pay more for that then that is why you got had.
I have no question on your staements about Cebu, although I like it better than AC - it does take some doing and getting around there and can be hit and miss. but again how is it you say that you would not pay the price, consider your air fair, hotel , meals, etc -- for the number of times you got laid it is working out to probably around $700 American per piece of ass.
LOL - I am accoridiong to most of these other honest and frequent posters, probably of the most negative posters about AC on here, but can assure you at my worsr I will pull at least 2 or 3 differnt pieces of ass per day...
Good Luck in you r future ventures
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[QUOTE=Wrong Info]As much as I enjoyy your report I find a few things a bit vague.
You say at one point that you had a great time and there was so much piussy etc. But according to your own report I can cound on one hand the number of times you acutally fucked someone. IN 4 WEEKS? [/QUOTE]The reason I didn't BF as many girls as I wanted to was because I didn't see a lot of super hot girls there. Note how at the end of my post I state that Angeles City would be perfect if it only had a place where model-quality girls could be easily found. I liked the ease and atmosphere of Angeles and I did like the quality of girls in Angeles but only compared to the other places I went to. There may be hotties in other places but I found the quality in Angeles to be comparable or dare I say slightly better than that of the other places I visited in the PI. You may wonder what I did when I wasn't mongering. I went to karaoke all the time! It was like $10 for an hour. Perfect for me! I played computer games at that Korean internet place in front of Voodoos like crazy! <- this is the stuff I left out because I'm pretty sure no one wants to hear about my gaming on this wonderful mongering site. Kinda ruins the mood.
[QUOTE=Wrong Info]I also see where you say that you would not pay the prices they want in Manila as "pussy is just pussy" and not worth it. Yet you said you paid 2000 pesos for a thick waitress or something in AC. Man that is more than I have ever heard of anyone paying there, and seems they were trying to seel you a waitress or mamma and not even a good ole bar girl. Maybe becuase they were all cherries or whatever, but IMHO if you were willing to pay more for that then that is why you got had.
I have no question on your staements about Cebu, although I like it better than AC. It does take some doing and getting around there and can be hit and miss. But again how is it you say that you would not pay the price, consider your air fair, hotel, meals, etc.- for the number of times you got laid it is working out to probably around $700 American per piece of ass.[/QUOTE]Yes I did get played at Agasya and I noted that in my earlier post. I won't be going back there. Also, they weren't trying to force me to get the mamasan I was. They were trying to get me to BF the other bargirls but it was me who wanted the mamasan badly. $700 per piece of ass. I don't think so, nope. Flights to different places I went. Appx 1700 pesos (cebu pacific), room. 1800-3000 pesos a night (depends), meals $10-15 a day Oh yeah and when transiting to the PI all I had to pay for was my flight from Singapore to Clark which was about US$300. I took a MAC from Hi-Okinawa-Yokota-Singapore for free.
[QUOTE=Wrong Info]LOL. I am accoridiong to most of these other honest and frequent posters, probably of the most negative posters about AC on here, but can assure you at my worsr I will pull at least 2 or 3 differnt pieces of ass per day.[/QUOTE]Do you mean you're "pulling" them in the sense of hooking up with them and having sex for free? (you = Brad Pitt) Or do you mean you're BFing 2-3 girls a day which any John Doe with fat pockets can do easily.
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Jack who?
[QUOTE=Wrong Info]If you are laughing and saying that stampedes is not a good bar, then you do not know jack squat! [/QUOTE]
Nope, dont know him.
Okay, will have a look in Stampede in March then. :D
Cheers!
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"Wrong Info," it looks like you have disseminated some bad info; the bus fare for "Fly The Bus" to A.C. is p600 na.
[QUOTE=Wrong Info]As for transpo from Manila to AC or Subic I have used many times
[url]http://www.swaggy.com/index_flythebus.htm[/url]
Do not know about the Southern Cross buss and know nothing about it - DO know many in AC have tried BeeLine and reported nothng but bad things, getting overcharged, lost luggage , getting broke dowd and stranded...etc.
The reason I like the " FLY THE BUS "
First it is dirt cheap 400 pesos
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[QUOTE=Wrong Info]Wow. I have to sit after reading all the spin, some are even as creative in their fiction and spin writing to say that yes the things I say- can and do happen-, but that somehow it just should not be written about in the terms I have written. .[/QUOTE]
Yep,
That about sums it up. We know that you don't like AC. That is entirely your prerogative.
*shrug*
I guess that the only thing people can do is go visit AC and experience it for themselves - visit all the bars you have mentioned, buy a few beers there, barfine the ladies and speak to all the guys like Dave Fisher (make a side trip to Subic) and other bar owners. That way people can make up their own minds and then post their results here. If everyone agrees with you, then you may have something. If they don't - your campaign is not worth your effort.
Of course things can change, so they should go revisit AC frequently to make sure they are up to date.
Those of us who can cope with the relatively few attempted scams, and don't mind the endless cheap pussy... bars ...cheap pussy ... bars ... pussy... bars, and did I mention Cheap Pussy, will keep going back for more.
3.5 weeks to 'wheels up' - YEEEHAAAA!
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[QUOTE=Wrong Info]Rubbery,
I know you arbeing democratic and ofcourse there are Bar Owners from almost every Bar posting on every sex chat site on the net - lol. Lets not be naive, this is their business and every guy that likes pay 4 play reads these boards before they travel. This is the bread and butter of thier business and ofcourse they know it. That is why it is so painfully obvious that hey post MISONFORMATION and flattering remarks of the expected service their establishmets give , if not you may think out of litterlay 10's of Thousands of Bars in the World - at least there would be one poster that admits he or she is a bar owner.
Not even one assures you there are indeed most likely an abundance of them positng.
As far as my posts though - I am sure you are well intended - but it is usually these types that want to spin it into " YOu had a bad time", or something off topic. Then under this guise go on to post something that suggests for some reason mine and the many other posters confirming the experience are for some reason just the few cases. Reality is most people will read these boards, very few post and tell of theier experience. for every one negative there are probably a thousand that did not post, as they are not among those who want their travels known.'
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I had invited (or was invited) to meet up with 5 fellow ISG members from the AC forum and I did meet up with all 5 of them. All I can say is that they were not bar owners. Perhaps a small sample, but it goes against your suggestion that bar owners proliferate this site. If that were true, I would think at least 1 of the 5 of the ISG members I met or more, were bars owners or turned down offers to meet up so as not to give themselves away.
I would also have to disagree in your suggestion that posters are more likely to post good experiences than bad. IMO I think the reverse is true. This forum would be a place for people to vent their bad experience rather than good ones, similar to customer service getting more complaints from customers than people who were satisfied. Furthermore, some readers and lurkers are more likely to keep good experiences to themselves as they do not want to share the good ones.
Hey Ekspat, I will be there in March too, maybe catch up for an SMB again.
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No, he posted out of date information. I paid 600 last time I used F the Bus. I guess the price has come down along with fuel prices.
Thanks for the update DOC.
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[QUOTE=Docwiltro]"Wrong Info," it looks like you have disseminated some bad info; the bus fare for "Fly The Bus" to A.C. is p600 na.
[QUOTE=Wrong Info]As for transpo from Manila to AC or Subic I have used many times
[url]http://www.swaggy.com/index_flythebus.htm[/url]
Do not know about the Southern Cross buss and know nothing about it - DO know many in AC have tried BeeLine and reported nothng but bad things, getting overcharged, lost luggage , getting broke dowd and stranded...etc.
The reason I like the " FLY THE BUS "
First it is dirt cheap 400 pesos[/QUOTE]
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Fly the Bus
[QUOTE=X Man]No, he posted out of date information. I paid 600 last time I used F the Bus. I guess the price has come down along with fuel prices.
Thanks for the update DOC.
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[QUOTE=Docwiltro]"Wrong Info," it looks like you have disseminated some bad info; the bus fare for "Fly The Bus" to A.C. is p600 na.[/QUOTE]Nice spin. But I said for as little as 400 pesos. AC is not the only place Fly the Bus goes, and there site has the AC trip posted as 500 pesos, although 600 would still be less than most any other Bus.
LOL. You guys never stop. Hey when you are ther why don't you ask someone why the business owners do not just admit who they are aznd stop posting mis information.
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[QUOTE=Ekspat]Nope, don't know him.
Okay, will have a look in Stampede in March then. : D
Cheers! [/QUOTE]Cmon. You first criticise my post and say that I do not know what bars are good. Then admit you have never been to one that I stated, and you are supposed to be the authority on posting,
Yes you should have been in a place and used a service before you state you know better.
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No offense BUT
[quote=kogal_lover]i’m wrapping up my last full day in angeles, so i thought i’d gather my thoughts while they’re still fresh. for background, this is my first time in the philippines but i’ve been to thailand several times. i apologize for the length of this report. i’m trying to include lots of details for first timers such as myself, so any feedback from the more senior posters is always appreciated.
i flew in last week from the us and arrived in manila around midnight. after clearing customs i headed to a money changer and changed $100 so that i would have something to start out with. i previously asked in the general reports section about currency. after the excellent feedback there, what i did was bring 60% cash and several credit cards. i was over budgeting since it was my first time, so even if i had issues withdrawing money using the credit cards i could still have a good time. i had previously made hotel reservations with pacific breeze, and arranged taxi service for myself and a friend who was also going to angeles for the first time. we followed the instructions pacific breeze provided on how to find our driver and were on our way.
from the airport to angeles was about two hours, most of that time spent getting out of metro manila. once we arrived at the hotel i tipped the driver 200 pesos and had the taxi charge put on my hotel bill. i picked the grand jacuzzi, and it was a nice room. for those that have been to pattaya, i think you get better accommodations at dynasty inn for a much cheaper price but my needs were met so i was satisfied with the room. since my friend and i were still awake we decided to see what was available in the early hours of the morning.
we headed to fields and went to dollhouse. it seemed weird to go into a bar at 3am and for everyone to say good morning to you. we were seated against the wall and ordered our beers, 85 pesos if i remember correctly for san miguel lite. dollhouse has a large, roomy feel to it that i can’t think of any equivalent go-go bar in thailand. they have an upstairs area that overlooks the somewhat small stage that all the dancers cram onto and has pool tables. after we sipped our drinks for a bit several dancers migrated over to our table. i asked the waitress how much lady drinks were and it was 150 pesos each, although on later excursions to this and other bars we stopped asking and it was usually 250 pesos. some of the girls sitting next to us were attractive enough and i wanted to get into the swing of things, so i began negotiations.
as mentioned previously on this board, it is very helpful to ask the girls upfront whether they will meet your needs. the first girl i talked to turned out to be a cherry girl. another girl beside her pointed to yet another girl and suggested her. i asked her if she did blowjobs and she said if i wanted she’d even lick my ass, so that worked for me. barfine was 1350 pesos. i apologize for omitting names and bedroom details but i’m just not good with those. my friend found someone to his liking and we headed back to pacific breeze. his girl stayed until 10am, mine would’ve stayed longer but i wanted to do other things so i gave her 500 pesos and sent her on her way. 500 pesos was what i tipped all the girls i barfined if they made me happy, and for this trip i got lazy and tended to repeat with the several girls that worked for me.
here the story will get less linear. day activities: over the week’s stay my friend and i headed to sm clark mall several times. first we tried to walk there, but went straight instead of left at a major intersection and after a long walk admitted we were lost and took a trike. trikes were not bad, at least compared to tuk-tuk drivers in thailand who i despise with a passion. we confirmed the price before getting in, to and from the mall was 70 pesos. i used several of the atms there to withdraw a cash advance against my capital one card. it was $10 finance charge each time, no currency conversion fee as capital one eats that, and around 48 pesos to the dollar. i took out 4000 pesos each time, so i don’t know what the limit was. i alternated withdrawing money and changing dollars at the hotel front desk, which was 2 pesos worse than the regular exchange rate. other than wander the mall we usually hung out in our rooms or down at the hotel restaurant. i am an internet junkie so i rented a laptop from the hotel for 250 pesos a day. we sleep a lot during the day and afternoon as our sleep tended to be broken up into 4 hour chunks. part of the problem was our night activities.
night activities: we spent the entirety of the trip trolling the fields bars. i did a solo sojourn to perimeter which i get to in a bit. i have to admit, the layout of the bars is very convenient. in a 5-10 minute walk you can cover all the fields bars. we tended to end up at dollhouse and atlantis. some of the smaller bars we visited like i believe typhoon were too cramped for our tastes, where your choices were either sitting right in front of a wall of women or five feet back. my friend liked atlantis’s second floor couches as those gave us some breathing space. it was interesting that for the most part the atlantis girls did not seem to wander about and consort with the customers unless you asked the waitress or mamasan to get them. most of the girls stayed on the second floor stage balcony. we didn’t barfine anyone at atlantis, although my friend had several girls come over and bought them drinks. he hasn’t mongered in a long time and it was a cheaper thrill than buying women drinks in american bars.
other bars worth mentioning: we actually like agasya because they had nice couches were you could sit down and relax and not be bothered. after having a drink at dollhouse or angelwitch or tropix and having women pester you for lady drinks, it was nice to have a spot to sit, have a drink and only stare at some women. my friend tried to barfine a girl from agasya but she claimed she was on her period. didn’t feel any bad vibes for not being korean.
miscellaneous notes: the street people were for the most part easy to ignore, although some of the child beggars were persistent and i had three men in the space of 10 feet try to sell me cialis. if i turned down the guy right in front of you, why would i now buy from you? we stuck with hotel food for most of the stay. it was edible and convenient.
for our last full day my friend decided to take the day tour to mount pinatubo. i am very lazy when it comes to hiking so i declined. instead i decided to check out the perimeter bars. the popular online map confused me, because i thought the distances for the perimeter maps were roughly in line with the fields maps and that a short walk would cover it. the perimeter bars are very much spread out, more like walking street in pattaya except with more non-bar locations. it was along perimeter road that i got scammed.
you can’t always go through life without a few pitfalls, and this was my time. a old filipino man with a gap in his upper front teeth pulled up in a trike as i was walking along perimeter and claimed he was from my hotel. i asked him which hotel and he ignored it and continued on. i made the mistaking of not breaking off there but i thought if there was scam i could see it coming and break of then. such was my arrogance. he spoke of general matters and wanted to show me a new bar had just been opened. since i wanted to walk down perimeter i didn’t see any harm. further down in a driveway another trike pulls up with another filipino claiming to be owner of said bar. after general banter, including talk of trying to get me to import goods into the country so he could sell them, i let my guard down and i had my wallet in my hand. the owner was quick, he grabbed it and had the money out. i immediately thought full robbery with three filipinos (including the trike driver) to myself. said owner claimed he only wanted to inspect the wallet after much harrumphing gave the money back. after a minute more of conversation i walked away, said owner still claiming later he’d give me free drink coupons for his bar when i headed back his way. some distance away it occurred to me that maybe he didn’t give back all the money. sure enough, the few thousand pesos i had were still there, but the hundred dollar bill i planned to change later was gone. well, it was an expensive learning lesson. since i thought was going to be a full robbery it didn’t sting quite so much, although i was annoyed that i let my guard down like that. i post this here so that other first timers learn from my experience, and avoid these people. even so, i would not count this as a strike against angeles per se, sucker scams happen everywhere.
aside from being scammed, two things i want to mention about perimeter are matrix brawn bar and imma massage. before the scam i went to matrix brawn to get a blowjob. i picked two of the three women that were there (it was very early in the afternoon) and headed into the back room. there are no curtains between the couches like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] in thailand, but this time i was the only one there. it was 500 pesos each for the ladies, 55 pesos for the san miguel lite. the ladies looked decent and did the job but after a bit started asking when i’d come, which a little annoying. after the scam i went to imma massage, where i had wanted to get a regular, normal massage. that was 500 pesos and was passable, although not quite thailand. maybe there was more on the menu? i wasn’t interested having already got serviced at matrix and the massage lady didn’t offer.
this report wandered quite a bit, so if anyone has questions please ask and i will try to fill in the blanks. the information from previous posters was invaluable to me, and i do want to give back to the community. my friend and i have a couple days now to spend in manila, so i will post that information in that section.
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[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/quote]i have no doubt of the acuracy of your report
as you have said it was your first time and have to say they saw you coming. as you said when you didn't ask how much the drinks were, then they carged you 250 for what you previously paid 150 for. as well the trikes never charged me more than 30 pesos when walking along to go to the mall, that is where they get the rides during the day as it is about the only thing there.
the bars you mention have among the worst reputation in ac, and i notice while you said you spent part of every dy on one. yet still never barfined from there, is just further proof of the kind of crap they pull now on fields ave. you paid top dollar and yet still were unable to pull a girl out of a bar that was owned by the same bar you came out of, seems they knew your spending habit and considered you a fish on a hook. if he will pay this much and let us sucker him, then keep it up.
as you pointed out all of fields bars are almost within a stones throw and are within a very short distance. while there may be many, they pass the word along quite readily about who you are and what you will pay. by your own report you paid more than i ever have for anything, and got much less action than i have ever gotten there.
this leads me to a real question. how you could say that bar was better thany you have visited in thailnd. there is no bar in thailand i have ever visited that were not selling pussy. there are litterally thousands more bars, and if you have just done as little as go to nana plaza in bangkok then you have seen a better bar than the ones you stated.
the prices you paid were more than you would have in los as well. but at least you got the experiencve now how to handle things the next trip. ask always, do not trust anyone, if a bar hasa chery girl on you hit the door immediately, and for god sake take a cp. they will hook up with you on their own and you will pay as little as 300 pesos for what you paid 2000 pesos for, and bring frineds you can choose from.
i even see one post on here from a guy stayiing on fields asking if anyone can set hiim up with a girl while he is there. if you are in a place that can't keep you busy with girls and you are paying for it. and you have to ask on a site like this. then you have chosen the wrong place!
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The Proof = Chery Girls
The proof of what I said has and is going on is not just in my reports, but the reports of others.
You can read every actuall report of people who have gone, and they will all mention the so called: Cherry Girl that they could not bar fine after talking to her and wasting time.
This is a girl who is basically telling you the Bar is having her sell drinks only as she probably speaks English better than the others etc.
Lots of hype about the English ability of girls in AC and it is flat out Bola. They speak less English than almost any place in the Philippines and it is basic learned statements like, Same Same, or You like, and ofcourse the one you will hear more than any is Buy me drink?
This in itself does not make the place bad, but it is the bars that promote the scams and let them go on. They do not care what kind of experience you have and post nothing but false propoganda on this and every other site.
If you ask fist how much, are you a chery girl before even buying a drink, find the places with smaller bar fines and do not pay the sucker prices like 1300 pesos, take or buy a cell phone to get girls numbers, etc, then you will have a much better experience.
Please do not be offended by my posting the things you should do to have a good experience. Seems there are lots that want to discredit posts that owuld seemingly make it better for them and I do not even atempt to wonder who or what they are as it is not important and just further shows my reason.
The continued spin goes on, and I have never said don't go there, or you can't get what you want. I just paint the picture the way it is and tell you how to truly get around the BS and have fun, for some reason lots do not like that.hmmmm.- I am sure it is not a Bar Owner there, LOL
Common sense will tell you this is true, just read others reports.
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Have a good Holiday.