I think its more like the "Axe" commercials!
(yeah, right! like, in my dreams?)
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I think its more like the "Axe" commercials!
(yeah, right! like, in my dreams?)
[QUOTE=Uke Boy]Cruiser,
It's not only the price that is out of whack with what may be available for almost nothing in Donetsk. It is also the fact that the two ladies, Julja and Nadja, are two of the ugliest ladies I have seen ply their trade, at least online.
From what I have been able to see and deduce, even the naked bodies, not just for these two ladies but for all the so-called ladies on the site, are clearly fakes.
No surprise that this is another major rip off site that is dishonest and not worth anyone's time let alone money.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Uke you beat me to it!
Just come back from Kiev and have met one of the girls they had on their site and she know nothing about them (longer post on trip to kiev later)
Now to look at the site they have changed it.
Greetings,
I will be visiting Lviv and would appreciate some tips on the seen there. Escorts, clubs, or sites are all of interest.
I've been there before, and visited the strip club at the casino in town (i forget the name). Great looking ladies but none seemed interested in side work :).
Thanks for the help.
Pros in Lviv are a disappointment.I do not recommend them.They charge 50$ for one hour but they are not as good looking as girls walking in the street.
The good thing in Lvov is the potential for sponsoring.I have had two girls who I bedded only because they were waiting for me to buy them some present as they told me later.The one was lesbian and wanted to bring her girlfriend if I bought her a mobile phone.She was a stunning blonde beauty,24 years old,nobody would believe she did one night stand joined by girlfriend for only a small present.
The other girl came with me to hotel 5 minutes after first meeting.
She is still in Lviv and has the same phone number.She is 174 cm,22 years old,very thin with long,black hair.
She speaks only russian.
[QUOTE=Hecker]From my experience the opposite is true.In regions the girls usually have more free time due to less work time and more common unemployment than girls in Kiev.The latter have time in week days only after 20.00 which means only 2 dates with different girls on the same day maximum.In province most are unemployed and have time during the whole day.
What is definetely better in Kiev is the weekend because many girls are free then and the nightlife and club options are much better than in province.
In province during the weekend many girls visit their villages or have arranged meetings with friends,so they are more unavailable.But in Kiev you can have 4 successive dates for example on Saturday let's say between 13.00-15.00,then 15.15-17.15, then 17.30-20.30 and last 21.00-22.30 and at the end be free to visit any club packed with hotties.So I prefer regular days to stay in province and weekends to be in Kiev.[/QUOTE]
The successive date method works very well on Kiev weekends, true. And although you may have to work hard to fill all the weekdays in Kiev (Internet, etc.), I found it easier overall than in the provinces. BTW, I had the impression that compared to Kiev, more weekday dating is to be had in Moscow. But that may be because I spent a longer time there, and after a while you have so many numbers that everything falls in place by itself (laws of probability!)
Plus, in Kiev, as opposed to the provinces, there is always a reasonably full club you can fall back on after the date. I had to endure a lot more "I am a good girl" talk in the provinces than in Kiev, and a lot more of it in Kiev than in Moscow. On the plus side, being a foreigner is an asset in Kiev, while in Moscow it does not really help that much these days. Fortunately, Moscow girls are sluttier. ;) Recently, many Moscow girls are really just out for adventure. It is a more honest deal from both sides, and more fun IMHO.
I have not really seen the Russian provinces, though, and little is reported about them on ISG. Are they similar to the Ukrainian glubinka? Or is the freebie scene a bit wilder? Say, Nizhny, Kazan, Ekaterinburg, Novosibirsk... or smaller places like Perm or Tyumen.
Zero six: A city with 5 names and no ambiance. Oh well. 3 days in Lviv, I stayed in Opera Hotel. Which was nice and empty.
Six fourfour: I wandered the streets, they were dark and scary.
Five six: I talked to 50 taxi drivers since I did not see and nice girls on the street. And not in Metro disco. Yes, it was not weekend time!
Three seven: All taxi drivers provide you with numbers, and I have some I can hand out. But I had two guys take me to these numbers (to the numbers apartment) but I did not like what I saw.
Five: The problem really is that no one speaks english. So any driver you talk to, you need to make funny curves in the air and give them a small tip. They do understand.
Stip Club Split is like a small cozy livingroom, some girls are sexy, some are not. The private dance is good, or bad, depending on the girl, but even if you get to stick your tongue in her snatch during the dance (I found only one that allowed that. And I was puzzled she did. And she even cums in the 10 minutes you have for the dance and she is wet all over, she will not come to your hotel or apartment.
So actionwise, Lviv is pretty dead compared to other places in Ukraine. Hotel lobbies are dead, and the hotels tend to lock their doors after midnight. So the walk of shame and the tipping for security needs to be on your mongering schedule when you stay in a hotel in city center.
Of course I forgot plus three eight in the beginning when I first saw her - since my jaw dropped. But again, she did not speak a word of english!
[QUOTE=Wallyally]Zero six: A city with 5 names and no ambiance. Oh well. 3 days in Lviv, I stayed in Opera Hotel. Which was nice and empty.
Six fourfour: I wandered the streets, they were dark and scary.
Five six: I talked to 50 taxi drivers since I did not see and nice girls on the street. And not in Metro disco. Yes, it was not weekend time!
Three seven: All taxi drivers provide you with numbers, and I have some I can hand out. But I had two guys take me to these numbers (to the numbers apartment) but I did not like what I saw.
Five: The problem really is that no one speaks english. So any driver you talk to, you need to make funny curves in the air and give them a small tip. They do understand.
Stip Club Split is like a small cozy livingroom, some girls are sexy, some are not. The private dance is good, or bad, depending on the girl, but even if you get to stick your tongue in her snatch during the dance (I found only one that allowed that. And I was puzzled she did. And she even cums in the 10 minutes you have for the dance and she is wet all over, she will not come to your hotel or apartment.
So actionwise, Lviv is pretty dead compared to other places in Ukraine. Hotel lobbies are dead, and the hotels tend to lock their doors after midnight. So the walk of shame and the tipping for security needs to be on your mongering schedule when you stay in a hotel in city center.[/QUOTE]
I think Lvov - sorry Lviv - is trying very hard not to be UKrainian. They think they are true Europeans, hence sex is not to be served up too obviously. The girls are all self-consciously 'good' and expect to meet with you several times before doing anything.
You have to struggle, to make an effort. If you think you are going to let your member hanging out in the center and the girls will rush to lick it, you are going to do nothing. It is not a fixed situation. You have to work it out, to build it the way you want.
I will be in Donesk and Mariupol the next to the last week in March. If anybody is going to be there at the same time- would like to get a PM. Also, if anybody has some digits or leads for these areas- (as Ross Peroit said)- I am all ears. PM me. My taste runs to the "spinner" type and I am not much for the bar scene.
P Bear
Hello gentlemen,
This is my first post on these forums so I will hopefully add some information on Nikolaev.
First some info on me. I have never done the p4p thing in Ukraine, although after finding these forums I sure as hell want to now. My interest is actually in finding a good Ukrainian woman to marry and this was my 3rd trip to Nikolaev in the past year so I know the place fairly well. Being that I was interested in meeting a serious woman for a relationship I never before tried the p4p thing in Nikolaev, but then I read the posts at an internet cafe and wondered myself. So here is what I found out on the last day I was in Nikolaev.
#1. There sure as hell is plenty of p4p in Nikolaev.
#2. While asking a taxi driver about night clubs he asked me straight up if I wanted a prostitute (they also know the spanish term seniorita). He gave me his card and if anyone wants his number I'll go find it in my luggage as I just returned 2 hours ago. The key here is that they need some notice guys. He said that I could not get the one he knew that night, but on my next trip to give him a call, I did tell him I was leaving that night and did not have much time. (not sure if its more than one girl or a place with a selection)
#3. The Dixie night club. Guys this is a definite p4p hookup place, with one very important fact. Not during business. I will recap my night for you all:
Dixie has a 30 uah (6 dollar) cover charge. Guys if you can't afford 6 bucks to see some titties you shouldn't really be in the p4p game anyway in my opinion. If nothing else you'll have the chance to just relax and see some interesting people and maybe make some new friends.
I went into the club 2 nights prior and just tipped some girls and enjoyed the show. The girls dance on stage for 1-3 songs. If they do a topless song it will only be 1 song, if they do not go topless it will be 2-3 songs. I would say about half of the girls will get topless and the other half won't. These girls do not get tipped much at all, so if you make the effort to tip them they will appreciate it and remember you. The 1st night I was there only 2 men tipped women that night, I was one of them. The other guy was a drunk ukrainian that tipped 5-10 uah (1-2 dollars) on some women. On the flip side I tipped 20 or 50 (4 or 10 dollars) depending on how I liked their dance to just about every girl. Now who do you think they payed more attention to?
The 2nd night I was in the club the waitresses notice me checking out the menus. There are 5 menu's gentlemen. 2 drink menus, one food menu, one menu in ukrainian for the services provided by the women and one in english call the Crazy Dixie VIP menu. It list what the other menu does in Ukrainian. The services are actually very very descriptive in what they provide: IE: lapdance no touching. Lapdance touching. You get the idea. They also have the following off the top of my head prices of the ones I did:
Lapdance - $10 dollars
Lapdance VIP Room - 2 songs she is naked + you get to touch her - $40 dollars
you get naked and she is naked - touching/no touching
you shower with one girl for 20 minutes
you shower with 2 girls for 20 minutes
you have all dancers get naked while you are clothed (did not do this one) - $200 dollars
2 girls naked going at each other and you - $100 dollars
Again. You get the idea. All of the services asside from the shower events are 2 songs long. Roughly 5-6 minutes and the menu reads specifically at the bottom that any prices in the VIP room you negotiate with a girl are up to her and you. IE: you can get some play in there but 2 songs isn't enough time and you better speak some Russian or its a no go.
The 1st girl I got a lapdance + touching would not let me touch her cooch even after I asked her how much to do so. She would only let me rub her mound. Heck I didn't mind that. But I was doing research for you all to see what flew and what didn't. Lapdance + touching girl #2. She was more forceful and let me do just about anything. After the first girl said no to cooch touching I am sorry to say I didn't try to rub hers. I regret that now. Anywho. I then did a 2 girl's nude going at each other and me at the same time. This was alot of fun and they actually gave me 3 songs and took my hands and placed them all over their bodies. Also a key to remember is to tip the girls after each event. I gave 50 uah (10 dollars) and they loved me for it and it showed up in the 2 girls nude dance. As I had to grab my taxi back to Odessa in 30 minutes I didn't have time for any more fun that night. But I will tell you this. I could have bagged both those girls that were in the 2 girls at a time dance that night. Easily. All 3 of us were into it and boy can they grab some cock and love it.
Some other info for you on the basic layout of Nikolaev:
The main drag is Sovietska Street which is a closed street to vehicle traffic. It is cornerstoned by the Dixie BBQ/Night Club and McDonald's. If you go towards the river doen Sovietska St. You will find a park about 5 blocks down on the left and an internet cafe and movie theater on the right. To get to the movies you neext to go to the next cross-street and walk around where the access to the theater is located. Continuing down Sovietska towards the river you will come to a major 4 lane intersection. If you look to the left you will see the Government building and a statue in the courtyard. Immediately to the left of the Gov building you can find the fine arts theatre. Its actually a nice looking builing but I have not been inside. Now looking straight you will see the small golden domed chapel where many people get married. The to the right of the the war memorial with a natural gas burning flame just like President Kennedy's over here. Going straight towards the river you'll run into about 4 little beer tents and there will be a kid's park to the left. Restraunt and spa to the right. As you look across the river you'll see the main bridge and looking NW you can't see it bu there is a massive park called Liberty Park on the left side of the road passed the bridge. Its supposed to be high in crime but I walked it for an hour and didn't notice anything bad. On the right side of the road is an old outdoor military vehicles museum. Nothing too impressive. So thats the rundown on Sovietska St.
Now to the crossing street that Dixie splits with Sovietska. I forget the name of this street but its Main street #2 if Sovetska is #1. There will be 2 lanes on each side of the Dixie.if you stand at McDonalds and look at Dixie you'll want to turn left as you get to Dixie. About 5 blocks down the road will be a Japanese restraunt called Yaketoria. This is an excellent place to eat if you know zero Russian. They have picutes and english on all their menus. As you walk into the restraunt remember to seet yourself and the hostess will bring your menu. Click the little black boxes when you want something otherwise they leave you alone. It will make a chime when you click it. In the back, passed where you see the men chopping up the sushi to the left you can go to their movie theater and eat while you watch a movie in Russian. Interesting and fun if you have a date or just want to see it.
Continuing passed Yaketoria you will continue about 4-5 blocks and on the left you will see the City Center. If you buy anything in this place with the exception of the grocery store then you are a fool. The grocery store has anything you could ever need, but I must warn you that fresh produce in Ukraine is what we would refuse to sell over here. The fruit is ussually going bad and I recommend if you want fresh fruit to buy it from a street vendor. It is much more fresh. Just remember to wash it guys. Now if you continue to walk in this direction you'll hit the next intersection and see immediately left a church. Can't miss it. If you turn left in front of the church you'll eventually come to club Storm. I'd say about 6 blocks down. This is a major chick hangout.
Which leads me to my 2 final points. I meantioned everything in blocks because I walk it. Its not far and if you can stomach walking for 10-15 minutes you'll lose 10 pounds per week and I'm not kidding. Taxi Drivers will charge 10 uah per about 15 blocks of travel. You should never pay more than 20 uah unless its really far. And always negotiate a price before you get in if you can speak a bit of Russian. Or just pay it like I do reguardless of what they charge because I speak zero Russian aside from thank you and yes/no. Hope that helps gents.
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[QUOTE=Lazywaste]
This is my first post.
My interest is a Ukrainian woman to marry
this was my 3rd trip to Nikolaev
There is plenty of p4p.
a taxi driver said that I could not get the one he knew
The night club 1st girl would not let me touch her cooch. I didn't mind that.
I did girl #2 I didn't rub hers.
I did a 2 girls and my hand placed over their bodies.
I gave 10 dollars and they loved me.
I didn't have time for any more.
I could have girls easily.
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Sure you guys will attack me for saying this, but this post is so pathetic, I couldn't have dreamed up a more ridiculous attempt at mongering if I tried as hard as possible to write the most inept loser for getting laid.
Ok, sure this guy is trying to share lots and lots of info, but is this actually a lesson in exactly everything one should NOT do?
Are we congratulating posting lots and lots of USELESS RIDICULOUS info?
Sorry, but to me, its the joke of his bragging that there is "plenty" of mongering to be done?
Plenty? A taxi driver knows "one" pro, but she's NOT available.
The "club" has "anything" available, but one girl says no, the second girl he doesn't try to touch, and then its time to go.
Oh wow! That's so much mongering, my head is spinning! I need a rest after that.
Yeesh!
Waste Product- we would really much rather hear about your 3 trips working on finding your wife, and how it went with those girls. Unless your success in that area is the same zero level as you did mongering, which we suspect that if you are such a loser in the p4p game, then we get it now, why you made absolutely NO mention of the main purpose of your traveling to a super shit hole like NIK, and also why you made NO mention at all of your 3 times in Odessa.
I think it is a lot easier find a Nikolave prostitute in Poland. I meet 3 in Poland which cost me lees then i have to pay in Nikolave.
[QUOTE=Lazywaste]#3. The Dixie night club. Guys this is a definite p4p hookup place, with one very important fact. Not during business.
I could have bagged both those girls that were in the 2 girls at a time dance that night. Easily. All 3 of us were into it and boy can they grab some cock and love it.
[/QUOTE]I was in Dixie Club 2 nights in a row about a year ago. My feeling was that no sex was on offer in this club, except that one stripper was open to maybe meet me on her day off. Perhaps everything has changed? When I was there, the club had only 2 strippers, the rest were go-go girls. The strippers were mediocre quality, whereas a few of the go-go girls were hot student girls making money for their studies. The student girls were definitely "no, no" for any further activities. However, there could be possibilities to go there quite often, get to know them, and then....:). My impression was a rather pleasant place to relax and watch girls with a friendly atmosphere from the waitresses. For sex: go somewhere else! My impression was that in Nikolaev you could get a lot of girls (freebies) if you spent some time there, but a lousy place for p4p! IIn fact student girls in Nikolaev that want to make extra money they do it in Odessa working for mamasan Dina, I have had several of them there:).
I actually thought the report was interesting Bez but we all know how interested in taxi's I am.
As far as the girls in the strip joint being excited to see you. I'm sure they get really excited when they find an American in their club. That means lots of tippings for nothing. It's amazing how much attention a stripper will give you when you are giving her money, almost like it's her job or something. :)
I liked the report it gave a lot of good base information. Yakatoria is a Russian chain BTW. There's quite a few of the popping up all over the place in the Ukraine and at least three I know of in Kiev. The food used to be much better then it is now. But it is quite the early morning trolling spot after the clubs let out (in Kiev).