Vokda Escort Kiev, Ukraine, Fraud
[QUOTE=Caribescort;1124399]Fraud=Intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right be : an act of deceiving or misrepresenting.[/QUOTE]Quite brilliant! Hoist by your own petard! Do you use photoshop, or another editing programme to alter the look of your "models". Err. YES!
Does this misrepresent the true look of the girl. Oh sorry,"model"? Errrr. Defintely.
Are your profiles of girls 100% truthful or a "perversion of the truth in order to induce" a client to part with cash? Errr. No the profiles are not 100% truthful.
And that's before we even get into your astonishingly high rates! For me you can charge what you wish, some people are stupid enough to pay it's their business. And I hope if I write Vodka Escort Ukraine Kiev Kyiv here it may show up in a few search engines when people are looking, and they can then read the truth and decide for themselves. Unless they are in Ukraine as of course you dare not open your domain in the motherland.
And please sir, when you try to write about clients wanting girls who can conduct themselves in a good manner, trying to infer you have class, at least try to learn the difference between "our" and "are" etc etc.
So, back to the point. Are you conducting fraud as per your own definition? I rest my case your honour!
GUILTY!
Scam called vodka / caribe
Vodka / Caribe is a serious scam. They post photos of girls they don't have and try to bring customers to Ukraine. And once the customers are in Ukraine, they say the girls are not available at the moment and recommend uglier girls they have available.
I can't wait for your smart-ass answer :) .
How to distinguish a freebie from a pro?
[QUOTE=Amunra; 1126539]Hi,
Thanks to all of you here, I think I have enough information so I decide to go to Kiev, am going in April for 6 days. But please tell me On Mamba how exactly are recognized the freebie from the pro? The freebie do put on there profile that they offer sex for money? I notice that there are girls that on there first answer they give you there prices and all conditions so am assuming that those are the pro but am still not sure who are the freebies? Can some one elaborate on this! [/QUOTE]Hi,
The answer is so obvious that I am wondering if I understand your question properly. A "pro" is someone whom you have to pay to have sex with, a freebie is someone you have to wine & dine & charm your way into her knickers.
So they both cost money, but in a different way, a freebie could end up being much more expensive than a pro, but you have the gratification of a "good hunt".
On Mamba, if they write "I offer sex for money" or "I am looking for a sponsor" and reply to your message with a price list, I think you can safely assume they are "pro's", but I am sure your figured this one out yourself.
If they do not write any of the above, again I would safely assume they are not "pro's", and I would personally refrain from asking questions like "what services do you offer" or "how much per hour / night", unless of course you like to be verbally kicked in the balls :).
A "non-pro" is not necessarily a freebie, that depends if you can lure her into your bed or not, only then they acquire the status of "freebie", and until they remain "targets" or "prey".
Now, to confuse you even more, a "pro" can become a freebie, depending on how well you play the game, most pro's probably do not want to remain pro's all their lives, and, experience tells me, can be convinced you are the "re al deal" and therefore refrain from asking money on an hourly basis, but on a weekly / monthly basis. Some people call this "sponsorship", others call this "marriage" :).
Now freebies can be very "pro" in assessing if you really love them, I. E. If you can provide long term financial stability for her and her first / second / third marriage offspring, and once you have passed this test, will also start asking money on a weekly / monthly basis, which again can be called "marriage" or "sponsorship".
There is a third category, which you will surely find on Mamba as well, but in any case in most bars and clubs, which are the just-looking-for-fun wodka happy party loving women, who are just interested in a one night stand (or two). This is what I would call a ons-freebie, as you do not pay an hourly rate, or weekly or monthly.
I know I am painting a fairly black-and-white picture here, and these are just my observations, other people will surely have other experiences, but in Kiev, on Mamba or most other clubs and bars a foreign visitor would go to, you basically have three options: real "pro's", supposedly "long term" freebies and ons-freebies, each of course requiring a different approach and positioning.
I am being a bit cynical in my reply, but that is probably because I do not understand your question properly. Take it with a grain (or skip) of salt :).
Have fun.
BR
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Well Written & Insightful
Wow.
I wish I would have written that.
What BR calls cynical you could also call the truth.
I particularly enjoyed and agree with this statement:
'Some people call this "sponsorship", others call this "marriage"'
Prostitution is a sliding scale here in the Ukraine, Actually I believe it is everywhere.
The girls look at this as a job. They are all looking for a 'sponsor'. I know girls that have 3-4 fiancés in the US and all of them send them money. I have seen girls that have 4-5 engagement rings. These girls are extremely talented at appearing genuine and sincere. They will say exactly what you want to hear and they will act exactly the way you want them to, naïve, innocent, school girl or insane sex vixen. You will never know who or what they really are.
But I have really very little to add to that well written and insightful post.
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[QUOTE=Brotherrabitt; 1126727]Hi,
The answer is so obvious that I am wondering if I understand your question properly. A "pro" is someone whom you have to pay to have sex with, a freebie is someone you have to wine & dine & charm your way into her knickers.
So they both cost money, but in a different way, a freebie could end up being much more expensive than a pro, but you have the gratification of a "good hunt".
On Mamba, if they write "I offer sex for money" or "I am looking for a sponsor" and reply to your message with a price list, I think you can safely assume they are "pro's", but I am sure your figured this one out yourself.
If they do not write any of the above, again I would safely assume they are not "pro's", and I would personally refrain from asking questions like "what services do you offer" or "how much per hour / night", unless of course you like to be verbally kicked in the balls.
A "non-pro" is not necessarily a freebie, that depends if you can lure her into your bed or not, only then they acquire the status of "freebie", and until they remain "targets" or "prey".
Now, to confuse you even more, a "pro" can become a freebie, depending on how well you play the game, most pro's probably do not want to remain pro's all their lives, and, experience tells me, can be convinced you are the "re al deal" and therefore refrain from asking money on an hourly basis, but on a weekly / monthly basis. Some people call this "sponsorship", others call this "marriage".
Now freebies can be very "pro" in assessing if you really love them, I. E. If you can provide long term financial stability for her and her first / second / third marriage offspring, and once you have passed this test, will also start asking money on a weekly / monthly basis, which again can be called "marriage" or "sponsorship".
There is a third category, which you will surely find on Mamba as well, but in any case in most bars and clubs, which are the just-looking-for-fun wodka happy party loving women, who are just interested in a one night stand (or two). This is what I would call a ons-freebie, as you do not pay an hourly rate, or weekly or monthly.
I know I am painting a fairly black-and-white picture here, and these are just my observations, other people will surely have other experiences, but in Kiev, on Mamba or most other clubs and bars a foreign visitor would go to, you basically have three options: real "pro's", supposedly "long term" freebies and ons-freebies, each of course requiring a different approach and positioning.
I am being a bit cynical in my reply, but that is probably because I do not understand your question properly. Take it with a grain (or skip) of salt.
Have fun.
BR[/QUOTE]
The answer of :Brotherrabitt
Brotherrabitt yes you did understand exactly what I was asking. It may be obvious for you but for me wasn't because just now I have discovered this whole (Mamba Girls Kiev Nailing Trip) and now I have a better pictures in my mind, so thanks a lot for the very detailed answer!
I heard about River Palace, I know that was a sort of ship casino but can some one tells me what realy was from a monger point of view, and why it was so particular and missed?
AR
[QUOTE=Brotherrabitt; 1126727]Hi,
The answer is so obvious that I am wondering if I understand your question properly. A "pro" is someone whom you have to pay to have sex with, a freebie is someone you have to wine & dine & charm your way into her knickers.
So they both cost money, but in a different way, a freebie could end up being much more expensive than a pro, but you have the gratification of a "good hunt".
On Mamba, if they write "I offer sex for money" or "I am looking for a sponsor" and reply to your message with a price list, I think you can safely assume they are "pro's", but I am sure your figured this one out yourself.
If they do not write any of the above, again I would safely assume they are not "pro's", and I would personally refrain from asking questions like "what services do you offer" or "how much per hour / night", unless of course you like to be verbally kicked in the balls.
A "non-pro" is not necessarily a freebie, that depends if you can lure her into your bed or not, only then they acquire the status of "freebie", and until they remain "targets" or "prey".
Now, to confuse you even more, a "pro" can become a freebie, depending on how well you play the game, most pro's probably do not want to remain pro's all their lives, and, experience tells me, can be convinced you are the "re al deal" and therefore refrain from asking money on an hourly basis, but on a weekly / monthly basis. Some people call this "sponsorship", others call this "marriage".
Now freebies can be very "pro" in assessing if you really love them, I. E. If you can provide long term financial stability for her and her first / second / third marriage offspring, and once you have passed this test, will also start asking money on a weekly / monthly basis, which again can be called "marriage" or "sponsorship".
There is a third category, which you will surely find on Mamba as well, but in any case in most bars and clubs, which are the just-looking-for-fun wodka happy party loving women, who are just interested in a one night stand (or two). This is what I would call a ons-freebie, as you do not pay an hourly rate, or weekly or monthly.
I know I am painting a fairly black-and-white picture here, and these are just my observations, other people will surely have other experiences, but in Kiev, on Mamba or most other clubs and bars a foreign visitor would go to, you basically have three options: real "pro's", supposedly "long term" freebies and ons-freebies, each of course requiring a different approach and positioning.
I am being a bit cynical in my reply, but that is probably because I do not understand your question properly. Take it with a grain (or skip) of salt.
Have fun.
BR[/QUOTE]