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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TheContinental
[i]BlackCat:
I don't deny what you said.But when your compnay pais for these trips, how can one go to Bangkok. It's not in the teritory I deal.But i will visit there soon.[/i][/QUOTE]Holy Cow 350,000? I was trying t figure that out with regrads to, say, Thailand.
In Bkk, the top-flight girls at Spazo and Rivas and Cm2, some at the Hard Rock, look for about B4000-5000/night. Considering Thailand has a per Capita GNP about five times less than Korea, that would be B20,000-25,000 in Korea? Or about $500-600.
So, although that W350,000 seems like a lot, in comparison I guess you made out OK.
But, I suppose you then would have to adjust it for average expat income. Teachers in Bkk get (guessing) between $750-1000/month on average. In Korea it's about $2000/month on average. So, with regards to that, it seems maybe you over paid a bit.
But, what about non-ESL expat professionals? I would dare say those in Bkk get more in Seoul than in Bkk, so maybe you got a bargain.
I personally would not have bothered. Although, I find it interesting that so many girls are available outside the RLDs nowadays (CRQ, on-line in general, discos). Considering the rapidly increasing materialism in Korea, I wonder if that scene could one day soon be more prolific than RLDs.
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seems to me that korean/americans should not worry about anything!!!
even if they cant speak korean they will get any girl they want!
I have seen hot *****s pick retarded koreans and I mean retarded also old people like 60's 70's and wont even look at a foreigner 22 years old and handsome..
I think korean/americans should not even post on this board and tell us how great their experience was at YJG or Miari or where ever else they DONT TAKE FOREIGNERS!!
I think koreans or korean/americans need to post positive post and information on places they will take us..
I mean korean/americans just come to korea! you can get laid anywhere!!!
its us non asian or non korean foreigners that need the info !
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by seoulman
[i]I think Korean Americans should not even post on this board and tell us how great their experience was at YJG or Miari or where ever else they DONT TAKE FOREIGNERS!!
I think Koreans or Korean Americans need to post positive post and information on places they will take us.
[/i][/QUOTE]Seoulman, you seem very fustrated, you need to relax and get laid now. Have you stopped mongering, if you have you need to start and relax. I post in this board to help everyone out, man talk about self-centered. ;) you think only non-Asians and non-Koreans that read this board. Everyone needs the info here or they wouldn't be coming here. Posting about places that don't take foreigners might be fustrating but at least you know about the place and can take a crack at it. Even places like YJG and 588 that aren't foreigner friendly do take foreigners sometimes according to posts here, so wouldn't you rather know about them. I would think ALL info is good info.
Maybe you should ask some of you're English speaking Korean friends to help you out. Even the people here, like myself.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by seoulman
[i]I think Koreans or Korean Americans need to post positive post and information on places they will take us..
[/i][/QUOTE]I would but kinda hard since I won't know if they take non-Koreans or not when I go there. Plus even if I ask I'm sure most places would deny it to me but still take foreigners, so you don't want misinformation.
Good luck man, and to everyone else.
Mool
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Biz card size with girl's pic: They are every where in Seoul on cars windows. You call and they send you a girl but not the girl on the card. They look about average but no stunners. The going price is about 100,000 to 130,000. They would show up in an hour after you called. The service is not gfe so don't expect too much.
Room Salon Girls: I had the pleasure of seeing about half dozen room salon girls after drinking at their establishment with clients in Seoul. I paid 300,000 each time for a girl but before I take them out, I make sure that the girl stays no less than 3 hours or sleep in until the morning. So far, I have not been ripped off perhaps only because the host (my client) has taken me to his regular room salon places and mamasan or owner knows him well so they are perhaps told to treat me as vip.
FInkle: On my next visit to Seoul, I hope to frequent Finkle near the Starbucks after reading about the hobbiests' reviews here. I have visited other barber shops with varying experiences from handjob to blow job (she spitted out) to full service. Hinging on the service you get, the prices were 60,000 to 90,000 with 20,000 tip.
Turkish bath: I have only gone to one place in a hotel (I think the name is Green Grass?) and someone here had said this place has closed down. What a pity!
Coffeeshops: Where in Seoul can I get some coffee deliver to my hotel and get service by a young girl? Does anyone know?
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Moolman:
Dude, I really don't get what you're saying. I would actually be GLAD if YJG was more foreigner-friendly but it's not. I'm not a Korean so why the heck would I try to keep the place 'non-Korean-free' like you say? I'm just quite pissed by my past experiences in the place and am trying to warn other people who might plan to take the trip there. And my opinion is that it ain't worth it.
As for nico, I'm interested in hearing what kind of girl he ended up with while there. Maybe his luck had to do with his looks as he's probably closer to 'Korean looking' than I. LOL.
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Seoulman:
You should lighten up. I am not Korean or Korean American but don't blame them for reporting reality.
The fact of the matter is that the best places in Korea are the places where foreigners don't go. It is the place guys like us go with a Korean and then after demonstrating oursleves can go on our own.
Foreigners have turned Itaewon into a cest pool, the worst place in Korea with every slime bag in country hanging there.
I suggest that you spend a bit more per visit to improve the quality over quantity.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Love Taipei
[i]Seoulman:
You should lighten up. I am not Korean or Korean American but don't blame them for reporting reality.
The fact of the matter is that the best places in Korea are the places where foreigners don't go. It is the place guys like us go with a Korean and then after demonstrating oursleves can go on our own.
Foreigners have turned Itaewon into a cest pool, the worst place in Korea with every slime bag in country hanging there.
I suggest that you spend a bit more per visit to improve the quality over quantity. [/i][/QUOTE]Actually, Itaewan is much worse now than it ever used to be. Remember, those girliebars, especially those on the bottom end of hooker hill NEVER used to be there. They are recent additions, as are the girlie bars on the street at the top of HH that connects it to Fags's Way (which parallels HH).
Also, there used to be a lot more discos open, and prior to the 1990s Korean college students thought Itaewan was a good place to go.
Further, the number of non-white foreigners (3d workers) has increased a whole lot only in the last few years as rents in other parts of Seoul (needlessly) rose dramatically. Strangely, the crime rate has also increased in that period in Itaewan.
The decay of Itaewan is a result of: The rise of other night areas; the loss of a Korean crowd; the increase in 3-d workers and crime; the lack of investment by local businesses;the inability for those businesses to compete with other markets; a drop in the foreign population in Itaewan; the anti-foreign mentality that has grown among Koreans as a result of both perceived insults by foreigners, increased prestige abroad and thus an increase in the idea that Koreans are "superior" to foreigners.
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Seoulman:
Don't worry so much about that bro. The Koreans shouldn't have problems anyway since this is their original homeland. So you gotta expect them to be able to have their way with their own women :) Frankly, i kinda enjoy their posts.
D
But anyway, it's like going to a place like Paris or Amsterdam, I'm sure the Korean guys would feel the same way you're feeling if they go to Europe and try to bang a hot chick there (although I gotta admit that the girls in Europe don't really discriminate as much as the girls in Korea do)
Just enjoy yourself and take whatever comes along.
*sigh* I sure miss Amsterdam. The girls there never gave me any problems :)
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TheContinental,
To reply to your post, I have tried adultfriendfinder.com and had some good luck there with Korean gals, but I haven't tried koreafriendfinder.com. I suspect this sight is more for locating the consummate GFE. Another sight that is good if you are looking to hook up for the real thing is match.com (they have an international arena too). All these mentioned are pay sites. Good luck.
C.
I have to admit I was briefly sketched by the Korean only dialogue, but I think Love Taipei may be right (especially about Itaewon: what a shithole). We "long noses" represent--especially in these last 50+ years--a type of infiltration threat to a non-pluralist society. This culture is 5,000 years old; with this much history, we can expect some ethnocentricity on the part of Koreans. No matter how long a white person stays in Korea, this person will never be a Korean. I, for one, can live with that. On the topic of enthnocentricity meets pussy, I have been happy with the hobbying that I have found in the Seoul Metro area. I wouldn't think to go to the outskirts for the upskirts.
Seoul Brother, I am eager to know more about your experiences near Omokgyo. Please give directions if you are willing to share.
Can anyone suggest the best hang outs in Hong dae for meeting gals?
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No dude.. that facts are.. even if you go with a korean you will be turned away! doesnt matter if you offer to pay triple!
rdlight districts anyway of course miari you can get laid and the other places are possible are right times with right girls but usually NO!!
fact is we are looked down on! man a choosy *****!
I cant believe it what is this world coming to!
they dont want to be degraded by doing a foreigner!!
HELLO they are hookers!!
roomsalons and other establishments if you are with a korean who is a regular then you should be treated ok..
their are places where we do get treated fairly..
I am saying why bother reporting a place where you know they will not take foreigners!!?
Itaewon? hahhhaa yes it is a cest pool..
just when I hear comments from korean americans saying ohh man I had no problems when I went to 588 or YJG.OF course you didnt you are KOREAN! thats what I mean.. I want to hear positive post about places where foreigners have been and been laid or pick up places from freelancers!!!
still 350.000 for short time??? OUCH!!
like the ritz carlton hang out there near the 7-11 or just walk around at night you will be approached by pimps! thats always good remember to BARTER people!!
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I guess my previous post to seoulman was censored or something because it's not showing up.
[blue]It wasn't censored, you just didn't give me time to review it.
Jackson[/blue]
Anyway, my main point is that this forum is for everybody, not just non-Koreans. So posting about places that don't take non-Koreans should be encouraged because there's plenty of Korean-Americans, Korean-?, or Asians looking for action. They should be directed to the best places. Let's not be selfish here, just ignore the posts that don't pretain to you and move on. The extra info about all the places help.
Mool
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Just because someone is a hooker, doesn't mean they can't choose who to sleep with. Being a hooker doesn't mean you have to do whoevers got cash. I know some may go to brothels where the girls are forced there and must sleep with every guy that comes in the door. But let's not support those places.
At least give hookers some respect, maybe not much since they sell their bodies but they are people. Hell, we suck more for buying. :)
Mool
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by seoulman
[i]
just when I hear comments from korean americans saying ohh man I had no problems when I went to 588 or YJG.OF course you didnt you are KOREAN! thats what I mean.. I want to hear positive post about places where foreigners have been and been laid or pick up places from freelancers!!!
[/i][/QUOTE]Well, I posted some comments about the reason Itaewan has become a "cesspool."
So, you want places where you can pick up ladies. A sure thing for ANYBODY is a old time dance hall (suddenly I forget what they are called.) This is where many divorcess dance the night away to the waltz and other slow dance tunes. beware: they are very good dancers! One at every subway stop, practically, even in Chongrangri.
Other places you r SURE to get a prostitute: In between Chongrangri and Chegi-dong subway stops is a RLD full of old 'hos. Direction: Get off at Chegi-dong Subway, start walking toward Chongrangri on the main street, turn right at the first main road, walk 7-8 minutes to the first 4-way. The mamasans will find you.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by seoulman
...I am saying why bother reporting a place where you know they will not take foreigners!!?
[/i][/QUOTE]Seoulman - I think Jackson intended this forum intended for ANYONE who seeks information on our little hobby, regardelss of whether that person is an expat, Korean-American, or a "regular" Korean who speaks our language and wants to expand his reaches or contribute to ours.
[blue]You are correct, this is an equal opportunity website.
Jackson[/blue]
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Just a quick question: which clinic or hospital in Seoul do you guys usually go for a regular checkup? I'm sorry if it may seem a bit strange to be posting this on this thread, but I was just curious and wanted to know of a place a foreigner could go to just in case anything might happen.
The last time I had a blood test was when I was in the States last year and my results were totally clean, and from the time I was here I have always practiced safe sex, but I would just like to know of a place I can check my blood on a regular basis...is there any place a foreigner could go? If so, where, and how much? Can you test anonymously or must you disclose your personal info to them?
Thanks in advance (Jackson, please post this).