2002-2006 Phnom Penh

Spent a few days in PP, at the end of September. Stayed at California 2 and, as advertised here, the owner Jim is a cool guy who can point a first-timer in the right direction. My only other time in Cambodia was in Siem Reap, a couple of years ago during a crackdown, when there was nothing going.

After a little wandering around town and some dinner, it was off to Martini’s. Just after I got on the back of a moto, the monsoon came down. By the time I arrived at the bar, I was soaked to the bone!

Ended up playing pool with a couple of Vietnamese girls, one sexy as hell and the other cute as a button with a gorgeous pair of tits. Threesomes have never really been my thing, but I figure what the hell. The two of them worked well together and I must admit that there was something very special about watching my dick passed from mouth to mouth. These two girls were pros, and they knew the drill well!

The next day, after some sightseeing, I stopped by the Walkabout to check it out and have a late lunch. Immediately had a neither young nor lovely lady hanging off my shoulder, who wouldn’t take the hint, no matter how effectively I ignored her. After a while, a couple of Cambodian girls walked in, and sat across the bar. One of them had the most beautiful face, and after a while I motioned her over, and the girl at my side finally took the hint. When the beauty arrived, I couldn’t believe how tiny she was. Maybe 4’10” at most, and about 80 pounds, but the face had me captivated. I checked this girls ID, to be sure! (She was 21.) After chatting a bit, I told her I had to go and do a few things (like rest up from the previous night’s exertions!), but would be back in a few hours.

After a nap and some dinner, I got back to the Walkabout and sure enough she was waiting for me. We flirted and talked for a while, and she said she would like to go dancing at Martini’s. Why not? Need I say that the two of us ended up playing pool against the two girls I was with, the night before?! A few drinks and some dancing, and then back to the hotel for a few rounds before sleep, and another in the morning.

I was worn out by this point, and it was time to hop a flight back to Bangkok, for a few more nights before it was time to head home.

Spent a few days in PP, at the end of September. Stayed at California 2 and, as advertised here, the owner Jim is a cool guy who can point a first-timer in the right direction. My only other time in Cambodia was in Siem Reap, a couple of years ago during a crackdown, when there was nothing going.

After a little wandering around town and some dinner, it was off to Martini’s. Just after I got on the back of a moto, the monsoon came down. By the time I arrived at the bar, I was soaked to the bone!

Ended up playing pool with a couple of Vietnamese girls, one sexy as hell and the other cute as a button with a gorgeous pair of tits. Threesomes have never really been my thing, but I figure what the hell. The two of them worked well together and I must admit that there was something very special about watching my dick passed from mouth to mouth. These two girls were pros, and they knew the drill well!

The next day, after some sightseeing, I stopped by the Walkabout to check it out and have a late lunch. Immediately had a neither young nor lovely lady hanging off my shoulder, who wouldn’t take the hint, no matter how effectively I ignored her. After a while, a couple of Cambodian girls walked in, and sat across the bar. One of them had the most beautiful face, and after a while I motioned her over, and the girl at my side finally took the hint. When the beauty arrived, I couldn’t believe how tiny she was. Maybe 4’10” at most, and about 80 pounds, but the face had me captivated. I checked this girls ID, to be sure! (She was 21.) After chatting a bit, I told her I had to go and do a few things (like rest up from the previous night’s exertions!), but would be back in a few hours.

After a nap and some dinner, I got back to the Walkabout and sure enough she was waiting for me. We flirted and talked for a while, and she said she would like to go dancing at Martini’s. Why not? Need I say that the two of us ended up playing pool against the two girls I was with, the night before?! A few drinks and some dancing, and then back to the hotel for a few rounds before sleep, and another in the morning.

I was worn out by this point, and it was time to hop a flight back to Bangkok, for a few more nights before it was time to head home.

cambodia. the trip.
again took the minibus from pattaya. it's about 4 hours to trat town and another hour to the border. on the way we dropped off some backpackers bound for koh chang. there were three of us left. the other two were drunk expats on visa runs. the minibus is operated by 'koh chang tours' and any travel agent can book it in pattaya or their office is in soi post office, near pattaya second road.

signing out of thailand is pretty straightforward. then walk just a few meters over the border to the cambodian immigration booth. the moment you leave thailand is when the circus begins. although it is fun really if you have a sense of humour. just don't panic. expect the unexpected. it's an alternative sort of world.

immediately i was surrounded by kid beggars. some missing legs, other arms. all dirty. chased them away. if you give to one, they will tear you apart. no bull.

then a legion of moto drivers appeared from nowhere, all eager to take me through the bridge. soon made a deal with one for 50 baht - the standard fee - (he pays the 11 baht toll) and he kept chasing the others away from there on. again the worthless yellow sars paper was stapled into the passport but payment this time was optional. i didn't pay.

then moving next door to apply for cambodian visa. handed over the $20 dollars ($1=40 baht) and was told the fee was 1100 baht. i waved some letter from immigration stating that the standard fee was $20 and not 1100 baht. unpleasant silence in the booth. i was the only one in there for visa and the atmosphere was very intimidating. i got quite a bit scared, i don't know why. the air froze inside. still silence. i was determined to pay only the $20 or die.

at last the captain nodded, okay, $20. big relief. why do we have to go through this shit every time?


koh kong town.
the scenery on the way to town is very beautiful. no houses in sight just plain forests, rice fields, the big river. stepping back into nature. like wonderland. was so good to be back again. everything is so random and natural. very much like a nature reserve or national park. dusty roads, very few cars. life moves at snail pace here. and yes, the best thing: lots and lots of smiling faces!

a couple of new hotels have been opened recently and they have now brand new rooms with that amazing handcarved hardwood furniture for $5 a night (200 baht). deal of the century. they take thai baht anywhere in town. there is not much to do really apart from walkind alongside the river, enjoying the fabulous scenery, sitting in a restaurant or wandering around the marketplace. changed some baht into dollars at the market.


at around 6pm took a moto to the chickenfarm for 10 baht. sent the moto away. went walking, mostly in complete darkness. popped a really beautiful khmer girl who spoke minimal english for $4 plus $1 tip in a very ugly room. details in another report. talked with a few more then back to town for 15 baht. there are lots of motos to take back.


next day spent relaxing in town, enjoying the peace and quiet. it is unbelievably quiet there at night, quite unlike pattaya.

by the way, now there is at least one girlie bar in the town itself which is a quite welcome development. however the place was occupied by backpackers when i went there so i just passed on.

the day after that took the speedboat to shihanoukville for 600 baht ($15). they sell tickets at the pier in the morning. don't need to buy them in advance. some locals even buy tickets on the boat. four hours on the water but it feels a very long trip. it is sweaty and crowded inside. there is one intermediate stop on some island to pick up people.

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on the way they showed us a very entertaining film. about little khmer sophie and her papa who screwed a hooker in phnom penh (wo) and got a terrrrrible affliction called adis or something similar so that he got diarrrrhea and got also wiped out most of his family and himself too. oh how terrrrible storrrry. made by some ngo for sure in need for self expression. khmer people don't make crap like this.

the funny thing was that how soon he got surrounded by so called 'do-gooders' urging him to test forrr his terrrrible illness and telling him how miserrrrable he should feel. should he have some sense and refused to test he would have died of diarrhea. now he died of adis (or something like that).

brrrrr. i feel sick. diarrhea is in fact epidemic in cambodia because of their crap water and low nutrition food. no one can make money out of diarrhea but they can out of adis (or smtg). talk about making money from shit. luckily we all arrived safely before getting diarrhea from this kind brainwashing.

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from the pier to shihanoukville town centre 3000 riel (75 cents). they don't take baht here. the driver insisted to go to a guesthouse of his choice but i told him he can go there alone and just got off not far from my usual guesthouse, where there is a sign on the wall stating that "no gambling or prostitution allowed!" i asked the manager once and he said "don't worry about it".


took a moto to victory beach for 1000 riel and got the chef to stop his card game and make some fried rice ($1) at one of the many restaurants.


at 6pm again took a moto to blue mountain for 1000 riels and sent him away. popped a beautiful and funny viet girl in a nice room for $10 plus $1 tip. she was white as snow and a good lay indeed. but still had that viet attitude which i dislike. khmer girls are much warmer. (well okay, darker too.)

tried to find the lecircee bar in town but was told it had closed down. went to fisherman's den instead. their advertisement promises 'entertaining company'. no one even talked to me. the few girls seem to have been attached to the boss and regular expats. watched tv instead. home at 11pm.


next day bus to phnom penh at 12.30 pm. price has gone down from 14000 riels to 12000. four hours. it's not too bad because there is a 20 minute stop around halfway. and luckily nobody was eating durian on the bus this time.

apart from a couple of backpackers there was another obvious sex-tourist on the bus (walks sideways through turnstiles). we got talking and he recommended a couple of places to check out in phnom penh. also we arranged to meet at martini's that night.


in phnom penh checked into the usual (visitor-friendly) guesthouse for $5 a night. it's a small but nice and clean, near new room with fan. picked up the tourist magazines from sharky's and made a list from all the bars advertised there. selected those which seemed to have interesting ads.

had a look at walkabout in the afternoon. dead quiet.
at 6pm most of the bars open. (some bars open at 4 pm others are open 24/7). went to one of the better massage places, near the main market.

by ugly-fat-feminist pressure now the girls must wear their knickers in the bar. that's disappointing. anyway, they are just as friendly but it was nicer when they actually flashed their pussies in your face and you could explore them while sipping beer. had a nice massage session with one girl there. details in another report.


then off to martini's. the sex-tourist guy didn't come. so i got my regular driver to do some sightseeing trip around town. we had a look of the streetwalkers on various streets in downtown plus a few more bars. martini's is such a waste of time now. can't even dance in the big smoke so went home instead, resolving never to return again.


the following days were spent relaxing at the hotel or sometimes at walkabout bar and the evenings in one or more of the girlie bars. most of the girls speak minimal or no english but we usually had fun anyway, lots of laughs nevertheless. i don't like to mention names of bars here because of perverts and feminazis are just looking out for clues to make trouble. so get the tourist guides and do as i did. it's more fun that way.

usually did doubles because it is so cheap. two girls is only $20 plus a dollar or two to tip. it is nice when you are rooting one and the other is feeding her pussy on your face or when one is sucking the helmet and the other the balls and then you blow it all in their faces. sperm is dripping from their cheeks and they are licking the corners of their mouths, begging: "it's yummy. can we have more please?"

they are good at it and not shy at all. the good thing is that they are uneducated and poor. this is the only way they can make some reasonable cash. you can't get this sort of treatment in thailand any more. only wanted to do 5 of them in this town and ended up with over 10.

so time flew and it was time to move on because we were running out of cash. there are still no atms. plus it is also not good to get too much of the good thing. i had a party every night.

passed on the tourist buses simply because didn't want to sit next to some fat feminazi from holland all the way so took the gst bus to siem reap from the central market for $4. it broke down around halfway but they sent a replacement real soon so we got there in about 5 and a half hours. it was even quite exciting as we got stranded in that tiny willage in the middle of nowhere and went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in the ricefields. the road is excellent all the way otherwise.

about siem reap see the other report.

from there to the border at poipet took another bus for $4 again. it was full of backpackers. if there are worse roads in the world i haven't seen those yet. wow! this must be the worst. not even a road just a track in the middle of the fields really. and that dust!

enjoyed the beautiful scenery for only two hours after then it was painful. the trip takes approx. 5 hours but feels much longer. had a couple of rest stops. beggars waiting. one little girl asked for 5 baht so that she could go to school. i am really against of educating women. it just makes them arrogant and proud. so i informed her that it is better if she doesn't go to school at all because they only teach her bs there. she promised. i gave her one baht.

someone may disagree at this point but i feel that we must be systematic in our approach here. if you send women to school then you are closing the brothels in effect. there is no need for woman doctors, lawyers or teachers. man can do those jobs very well. but we need lots of humble, beautiful, warm hearted females. western women are now losing these qualities very quickly.

at poipet border crossing hordes of beggars again. young, old, little, big. one guy in front of me took out a coin to give to a kid. in one instant a dozen of them surrounded him pulling his clothes. he must have panicked and started screaming "f. off!, f.off!" put away his coin again. wow, they are a scary lot them beggars there.

the contrast is the most remarkable at the border. you step through from near anarchy into a wonderfully organized world at aranya pratet on the thai side. in a way it was a relief. although i will miss the khmer smiles. from aranya pratet took a bus on to khorat to have a look at the soapies there and most importantly to take a rest from rooting meat. but that's in another report.

I'm going to SR and PP the last week of Nov. Will anyone be there?

I'll PM you with my travel plans with in 24 hours

Shamas

Alexander,

Excellent narrative relating your overland excusion from Thailand to Cambodia and back. I am envious and I hope to make such a trip one of these days.

Thanks for your effort.

Ljohnson

I am here in Thailand, and hear some bad things about foreigners trying to find a wife.

It is not clear if some of the other expatriates that I talked to were giving me inaccurate information as a way of telling me to "stay out of their sandbox," but what I hear is that the girls here: 1. Want a huge dowry; 2. Treat a man as a source of financial support for her family for the rest of their lives. With problems like this, is it easier to go Cambodia? I've heard that there is a significant sex imbalance there (in favor of females), which might make it a lot easier to get a wife. What have you guys heard about that?

I understand the going rate for a Thai wife is $5K US, paid to her family. Sometimes the family returns the money to the groom as a wedding present, other times it's kept.

Girls in Asia are treated much differently than in North America and Europe.

Most guys who marry asian women end up getting divorced. The girls have a misconception that all we are is a big Mall and the money never runs out. The culture shock, lack of friends and different life styles are hard to adjust to. Some have a great relationship, most don't.

That's my 2 cents worth

Shamas

Clandestine782 -

With all due respect, I would caution you (strongly) against going to Thailand and/or Cambodia to find a wife. If by "a wife" you mean a woman with whom you want to share your life, to love and trust and possibly raise a family. The women I have "known" in both countries have been loads of fun, great in bed and beautiful. But...a wife? That is something else and these girls are not wired for that. Read the book, Private Dancer. It is available for free online.

Not to preach to you or insult you, but it strikes me as naive to think that you could be happily married to any one of these little beauties. They are creatures of a very different sort and seeking to marry one of them can lead to emotional and financial ruin.

Don't do it.

Ljohnson

No offense taken. I'm going to read the book "Private Dancer."

I wasn't thinking about meeting a bargirl. And I didn't necessarily mean someone to share my life with. Just a regular partner.

That is not true about the money for the Thai wife. It is BS only! When you give $5,000 as a dowry, the girl better be hot AND from an upper class family. Modern and respectable Thai families NEVER keep the money but instead return it to the Thai wife. The tradition dates back a long time. However, if you are marrying a bar girl and her family asks for that much money and does not return it to her there is a really big problem with that situation. It is a scam big time so never agree to this. Anyway, there is no way that you should have to pay that much money in the first place if you wanted to marry a bar girl. That is seriously messed up!

I know of a few Cambodian ladies from respectable families that married an American and there were never any rip offs or problems. Again, non P4P type of girls and the expats knew a Cambodian friend in the USA who would ask his realtives about intelligent single girls whom they had known for several years.

Quite a different story than the basic expat who bangs a young hooker in PP and then wants to marry her without ever knowng anything about her. Please be careful about that situation.

"There is no fucking away I would ever come back to this shithole with their monkey looking natives and risk dying."

Guy #2

"monkey looking natives" ?????

The above statements qualifies you for banishment from WSG.

One wonders if your gran'-pappy wore a hood and lynched "nigras".

You're disgusting!

Guy #2 -

You say that you do research re AIDS? Why did you not do the research before you went to Cambodia? You sound like a real idiot (you may not be but you sound like one) when you go to all the trouble of going to Cambodia and then you decide they look like "monkeys" and apparently the AIDS situation is unacceptable.

What you wrote in your last post is not just offensive. (We will not always agree on every point.) It goes beyond offensive; it is not acceptable and has no place here.

I would not be surprised if the doctor or lab tech took one look at you and decided to issue a positive test result (in collusion with the girl/patient) just so you would leave the girl alone and get the hell out of Cambodia and not come back.

I had a wonderful time in Phnom Penh. PLEASE do not return there as I would not want any of the delightful people I encountered to have to tolerate you and your atrocious attitude.

Please either refrain from such language or remove yourself from this board. Your sentiments are not wanted.

Ljohnson

Surprised you wasted your time commenting on Guys 2's posting.

There are several of his type on the Board who crop up now and again.

I think that the word that is required is simply 'Ignorant' in all its senses and comments do not merit any reply.

TT

Hi Guys

I am in PP in Jan and am looking at hotels.

I am thinking maybe
Intercont (seems a bit out of the way)
La Royal
Cambodiana

Are these girl friendly?
Not sure if the Royal would be.
Cambodiana is tempting but I am not sure about the quality of the place.

Any suggestions?

What time to the bars and clubs close there now?