Ge Bez sorry to disapoint
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Sure you guys will attack me for saying this, but this post is so pathetic, I couldn't have dreamed up a more ridiculous attempt at mongering if I tried as hard as possible to write the most inept loser for getting laid.
Ok, sure this guy is trying to share lots and lots of info, but is this actually a lesson in exactly everything one should NOT do?
Are we congratulating posting lots and lots of USELESS RIDICULOUS info?
Sorry, but to me, its the joke of his bragging that there is "plenty" of mongering to be done?
Plenty? A taxi driver knows "one" pro, but she's NOT available.
The "club" has "anything" available, but one girl says no, the second girl he doesn't try to touch, and then its time to go.
Oh wow! That's so much mongering, my head is spinning! I need a rest after that.
Yeesh!
Waste Product- we would really much rather hear about your 3 trips working on finding your wife, and how it went with those girls. Unless your success in that area is the same zero level as you did mongering, which we suspect that if you are such a loser in the p4p game, then we get it now, why you made absolutely NO mention of the main purpose of your traveling to a super shit hole like NIK, and also why you made NO mention at all of your 3 times in Odessa.[/QUOTE]Gee I am so sorry that my simple report repulses you to such a high level. The simple fact of the matter is that I wrote the report 1 hour after landing back in the states while it was fresh in my mind. And my purpose for going to Nikolaev was not to get any p4p, perhaps you missed that.
As for the fact that I had to leave that night after having some simple fun in the club, its a matter of I didn't know about this site until I googled Dixie night club that same morning and saw this thread and read it. So if you had bothered to read those other threads and then mine, and still remember that I leave the city that same night I had very limited time to actually find out anything at all. The girl the taxi driver knew wasn't available - perhaps because I was riding with him at 9pm at night and as I said they need some advanced warning to set you up with a girl - IE: they are arranged meetings in an apartment and not just street walkers. Considering the ease that he asked me I assume there is more than 1 woman he can find if given the time.
You want to know about my other trips to Odessa? They were like this, meet taxi driver - driver takes me to Nikolaev where I have friends living there. And no I'm not going to ask my friends about p4p action because they respect me. Go to club Storm - there are plenty of Pro's working there every single night - they are also easy to pick out. About my 3 trips to Nikolaev before this? #1 - met girl - girls mom won't let her leave. #2 - met girl - girl is a money sucking suckubus who played the typical I need money scams that I don't fall for. #3 - I just met a girl and we like each other very much and I'll go back to see her again.
I'm sorry that your dissapointed in my post, as in the 6 hours after I found this forum while at the internet cafe, I tried to find information that might be helpful based on other posts. Considering I only had 3 hours (opens at 9pm) in the Dixie that night and out of the 3 dances I got 2 women would have slept with me that night if I actually had the time, I'd say thats a good indication of yes they are fair game at the club. And since the 1 taxi cab that I took where the driver actually spoke basic english he offered me a prostitute on the spot after asking about clubs - hmm also a good indication. And since I have been to club Storm and watched the Pros dancing, I also know that they are available. But if you really want a chance then learn to speak Russian in some form, because 95% of them don't speak any english.
So you are now asking why I never tries p4p in Nikolaev before - ever hear of the saying don't sh** where you eat? Seriously - if you want to talk about p4p in Mexico border towns I can talk all night long about that. Nogales, TJ and Ciudad Juarez are all places I have done p4p - Kiev also.
Where can I find a tochka?
Is anyone aware of a tochka in Kiev or in another Ukraine city? Donesk or Dnepro or Miriopol? I have heard about them- would like to see and maybe try one. Any guidance would be appreciated. PM me if you would rather not post the answer.
The tochka phenomenon isn't found in Ukraine, or anywhere else (?), except MOSKVA.
Sorry.
But, rather than hiding in vans or hidden just out of sight on a sidestreet, or just even walking the streets, its common after 21:00 to find Ukraine cities' prostitutes congregating in groups of 3 to 5 women, standing in plain sight waiting for customers at downtown intersections on the sidewalk just up against the corner of buildings to stay out of the cold blowing wind, or standing just inside bus stop rain shelters, or by the top of the steps of subway stations at the street curb. :o
These prostitutes business doesn't come from sex tourists, they service the locals. When you tell them you aren't from Ukraine, they'll get suspicious or not even believe you, so they'll be unwilling to go back to your place. They expect to provide a quick blow job in a john's car, or to walk with you and up to a very shitty flop house nearby and fuck you on a filthy mattress in a run down flat. Picture a hooker in New York City taking you upstairs to some slum apartment that is used for the sole purpose of fucking johns at the rate of 3 or 4 per hour. :p
Largest population
+Highest level of corruption
+National low standard of living
+Historical social role of women and sex
=Formula for the phenomenon of the tochka :D
Maybe the reasons Moscow is the city for tochkas are because first, even though London and Paris compare in size, the FSU's population is 6 TIMES that of England or France, so there's 6 times as many young women finding their way to those big city lights, and with 300 years of Tsars and 70 years of communism, and a middle class only now emerging, leaving a vast majority still in desperate need of a way to claw their way out of a bleak financial existence and dim future of opportunities. :rolleyes:
Second, young FSU ladies are well aware that if they have a nice figure, they can certainly rent it to horny men with big wallets waiting to be opened, they just need to get to where the most money is, and that's Moscow. No of course its not the choice for most dyevochkas, most aren't coming to be prostitutes, but once there, if they get in a bind, its always an option. ;)
With such an extreme economic history of struggling for survival, one might assume as many as half of FSU females may have agreed to sex in exchange for money/food/shelter at some time of their lives, so if the situation called for a need for quick cash with minimal effort, prostituting in a city bursting with money is probably never too far off the realm of possibility.
Finally, Paris and London's level of corruption is nothing compared to Moscow's, in its wide breadth, and history of acceptance. Combine that, with the entrepreneurial aggressiveness and acute business sense of the new russian mafia, and the tochka was just another logical conclusion.
In Asian and African big cities, there's plenty of prostitution, but are there tochkas like Moscow's? Would you call a Bangkok fish bowl line-up, or Chinese barber shop or health club line-up, a form of tochka? Or a brothel line up? Driving at night in to the Barokek brothel in Bali through the gate winding your way around the totally dark driveway in a taxi and having the floodlights suddenly shine in your eyes as 25 Indonesian prostitutes emerge from nowhere all shouting choose me, choose me!! Does that qualify as a tochka?