What Country has the Best Women for STR?

[QUOTE=Piilo;2081944]What are the best countries in Europe for BBBJ / CIM these days? The new law in Germany has probably changed the situation there, so I need an alternative. I used to love Erlebniswohnung and swinger parties, with lots of sex during the same night. A good brothel experience would be nice as well, but independent escorts are also a possibility.[/QUOTE]I do a lot of posts in the Spain and Portugal forums.

For younger ladies at "shared private apartments", which might also be called appointment-only brothels, Barcelona has two excellent places with prices in the 70 euros for 30 minutes, 100 euros for 45 minutes and 120 euros for an hour (with multiple pops) where BBBJ is standard and BBBJTC is performed by most of the ladies. The places are referred to as Villaroel 15 X and Gran Via / Padilla and all the ladies are in the 18-25 year old range, so some guys jokingly refer to the Villaroel place as Villateen. Barcelona has a couple of true brothels (as opposed to the shared private apartments) where BBBJ / BBBJTC is almost completely standard, and those brothels are Devorah Suites and capricivicbcn. They are just a few euros more expensive than the two private shared apartments I mentioned. Barcelona has plenty of independents offering BBBJ, but some of the better reviewed ones do not do so to completion (and of course some do CIM). The independents generally require an hour of booking at 150 euros, although there are a few less expensive ones. You would want to read the Barcelona forum for more details. But these are not "party" options, or "club-like" setups. You get laid and leave. So a lot of FKK fans don't like them.

Madrid is somewhat similar, with many brothels where BBBJ and BBBJTC is readily offered. In general, the Madrid providers are on average a few years older than their Barcelona providers. A few more providers in their 30's rather than in their 20's for the most part (but still enough younger ones if that is your thing). The one Madrid brothel, amigasdelidia, that tries to specialize in the 18-25 year old group, has excellent reviews but a reputation for not checking their whatsapp messages often enough. Other brothels where BBBJ and BBBJTC is openly advertised for most providers is Placer Madrid, Palacio Palace (I butchered that name, it is related to Placer Madrid and you can get the exact name in the Madrid thread by reading Kosher Kowboy's posts), and RusasVIP (where you pay a listed surcharge for BBBJ). The prices are listed on the websites and you can check them out. By European standards, they are not overly expensive.

Lisbon has an excellent escort service called EscortPrivada with the services of each lady listed on the website. They list all the ladies as BBBJ, but you would want to pick a lady with CIM in her profile. All the ladies I have seen with CIM in her profile did excellent BBBJTC, but some with no CIM designation only do a short BBBJ prior to putting on the cover. I did a post in the Lisbon thread of the top ten escortprivada ladies based on my opinions and the reviews I have read, and all the ones listed as top ten have reviews indicating that the BBBJ is long and excellent. All but one of the top ten I listed does full CIM, and the one I mentioned in that post who had excellent pictures but no reviews has since gotten a review confirming BBBJ. The escortprivada ladies only do outcall and charge 150 euros per hour, but there are no upsells and multiple pops are fine.

Of course, both Madrid and Lisbon have excellent independents that offer BBBJ and BBBJTC, just like Barcelona.

I have gotten good BBBJ and BBBJTC from Prague independents, but I found them more expensive than Spanish and Portuguese providers after I paid for everything I wanted.

I do apologise for this question in advance, as I understand it might be a little repetitive. I am planning a holiday in Europe late November, and have a mongering budget of USD1000 for approx 10 days. Basically, I'm looking for cheap cities where I can get the best bang for my buck in Europe. Suggestions would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Melbsta;2100105]I do apologise for this question in advance, as I understand it might be a little repetitive. I am planning a holiday in Europe late November, and have a mongering budget of USD1000 for approx 10 days. Basically, I'm looking for cheap cities where I can get the best bang for my buck in Europe. Suggestions would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]You don't give a lot of details as to your interests outside of mongering.

Barcelona is one of the most touristy cities in Europe, and it is easy to fill days with the beach, the Gaudi Parks, the old Gothic area, museums, and trips on the train to Montserrat, Girona, etc.

Madrid is similar, with better museums, but not as strong for beaches and urban hiking. Madrid also has excellent day trip opportunities on the train to Cuenca, Toledo, and Segovia.

Neither offers particularly inexpensive hotels, so hopefully you have hotel loyalty points or can use airbnb.

They are easy to travel between, so it would be easy to do both on a trip.

If you will do your research, locate the best brothels, independents, and shared private apartments in Barcelona, you can always get BBBJ (usually to completion) from very hot ladies, often in the 18-23 year old range at the Barcelona shared private apartments, and spend around 60-70 euros for a half hour and around 100-150 euros for various 45 or 60 minute sessions. You have to make some effort. If you just use the easier large commercial brothels in Barcelona and if you go the club route in Madrid, you are going to pay a lot more than that, and either get CBJs or often pay an upsell for BBBJ / BBBTC. If you are interested in alternative activities, both cities, particularly Madrid, has a decent BDSM scene, and many providers offer Dom and Sub activities as part of the sessions. Anal is widely available in both cities, but it is usually an upsell in Barcelona. On a longer trip, you might get tired of vanilla being the only ice cream flavor available, so that is something to consider.

They are my preferred cities because I can easily put together a daily agenda of outdoor tourist and travel activities that interest me, and if you make an effort by using whatsapp to communicate, and reading websites and reviews using Google Chrome as your browser to get translations, the prices are very reasonable. In the Barcelona and Madrid sections, read my posts and better yet read the posts of Kosher Kowboy, DayTony and Smuler to get some leads and links.

If you do not want to make much travel effort within the city of your choice, if German tourist attractions interest you, and if you are okay with the unknown of whether you can get a BBBJ without an upsell, the FKKs are obviously the most popular choice here on ISG. I am in the minority in that FKKs and Germany in general has just never interested me much. You can read the many FKK posts to get an idea of services and prices, but don't forget to include the entrance fees. The entrance fees include food, but I prefer the local restaurant cuisine of Spain, especially the ham and bacon, to what I read as being offered as food at the FKKs.

Hi guys,

I'm looking for a country to monger some fair skin hotties. I live in the Philippines right now and I'm tired of brown skin and the whole íslaner look'. I want some really fair skin Asian hottie. I almost booked a ticket to Seoul (s Korea) but after reading the forums it sounds abysmal there. I'm not looking for as active scene like it is in Philippines but a country where it's relatively easy to find girls even if there is a language barrier.

I'm in Eastern Europe at the moment (Latvia). I was under the impression that the cheapest mongering could be found in Eastern Europe but it like OKs like it's still 150+ Euros for an hour. All I'm looking for is short term full service and I don't exactly want to call 30+ numbers and inquire about prices for each, as some of the eastern Europe reports indicate.

Any help for specific countries and specific resources or websites for budget options? Maybe something like 50 euros for 30 minutes or so?

[QUOTE=Troutguy;2108816]I'm in Eastern Europe at the moment (Latvia). I was under the impression that the cheapest mongering could be found in Eastern Europe but it like OKs like it's still 150+ Euros for an hour. All I'm looking for is short term full service and I don't exactly want to call 30+ numbers and inquire about prices for each, as some of the eastern Europe reports indicate.

Any help for specific countries and specific resources or websites for budget options? Maybe something like 50 euros for 30 minutes or so?[/QUOTE]To get cheap prices in Eastern Europe, you often have to work hard, to do some search. However there are some countries where it's easier than others even if it can be sometimes tough. Poland, Bulgaria, Czech Republic and Greece would be in your range of price. The cheapest one would be Greece with 10-20 euro for a quicky. Bulgaria is 50 euro for one shot that can last 10 minutes or 1 hour. Czech Republic around 60 euro for half an hour, but there are a few cheaper places. In Poland prices are from 25-50 euro for half an hour and even for the hour with some girls. 50 Euro for half an hour is also a price that you can get in Germany or in Spain and without doing so much search and not so many troubles like in Eastern Europe.

[QUOTE=Volpone;2109073]To get cheap prices in Eastern Europe, you often have to work hard, to do some search. However there are some countries where it's easier than others even if it can be sometimes tough. Poland, Bulgaria, Czech Republic and Greece would be in your range of price. The cheapest one would be Greece with 10-20 euro for a quicky. Bulgaria is 50 euro for one shot that can last 10 minutes or 1 hour. Czech Republic around 60 euro for half an hour, but there are a few cheaper places. In Poland prices are from 25-50 euro for half an hour and even for the hour with some girls. 50 Euro for half an hour is also a price that you can get in Germany or in Spain and without doing so much search and not so many troubles like in Eastern Europe.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info!

Are there any specific resources or sites that you can give for these countries? Maybe even some more active message boards specifically for eastern Europe? I've noticed that a lot of the reports on ISG don't even mention prices paid, which IMO is a completely useless report.

When you say that you often have to work hard, you mean you've got to call and text a lot of numbers? That's just how it's done in Europe?

[QUOTE=KuteGuy;2050791]I am sorry to burst the bubble. But my job is similar to the other poster's in that I can work from anywhere as long as there is an internet connection. Let me tell you the internet connection absolutely sucks in most of these countries if you need to make Skype calls, etc. The number of times that the internet has let me down (hotel wifi or LTE) is 95% to 5% - IE. It has only worked 5% of the times. I have tried India, Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea, and Philippines.[/QUOTE]I think you are being overly critical or maybe not getting SIMs for the faster networks. I was in Bangkok a month ago and had good connectivity for 4 days of work. But, if you require perfect Skype calls 100% of the time, then I do agree you may have some problems. I hate Skype but find WhatsApp and FaceTime to be a little better. Certainly VOIP is one of the more challenging applications. Still, I do regular business all over SEA (today I'll spend 2 hours interviewing CIOs over FT from Thailand) and find the internet to be very good. South Korea is one of the most highly internet connected countries on the world. If you have a problem there, you are definitely doing something wrong.

The obvious answer is China. Hundreds of millions of fair-skinned even paler than white women, especially in the North. Not speaking Chinese (like me) means not much warm GFE, but sometimes I find a sweet one. Things have been tightened a bit, but there are still fair-skinned hotties to be found in most cities. Shanghai would be a good starting place.

* Taiwan is a waste of time because the country is too rich now. At least, I have found it to be a waste of time compared to China in terms of quality.

* Hong Kong, while not cheap for hotels, offers endless beautiful mainland women for US $120/ session via the 141 "honey girl / hotel girl" networks. Often mechanical, but plentiful and usually good quality. I don't like the 141 walk-up scene as most of the women are older local Hong Kongers. Still, it can be a thrill to cruise those buildings filled with small pink lighted rooms, each with one half-naked wh*re hoping to get fucked.

* Japan. I've never had the time, but certainly the women tick your box, but seems expensive and difficult.

* Northern Thailand has some fairer skinned women as does Myanmar, even Indonesia, but of course most are a little darker.

[QUOTE=LOLWTFBBGirl;2105653]Hi guys,

I'm looking for a country to monger some fair skin hotties. I live in the Philippines right now and I'm tired of brown skin and the whole slaner look'. I want some really fair skin Asian hottie. I almost booked a ticket to Seoul (s Korea) but after reading the forums it sounds abysmal there. I'm not looking for as active scene like it is in Philippines but a country where it's relatively easy to find girls even if there is a language barrier.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2100185]If you will do your research, locate the best brothels, independents, and shared private apartments in Barcelona, you can always get BBBJ (usually to completion) from very hot ladies, often in the 18-23 year old range at the Barcelona shared private apartments, and spend around 60-70 euros for a half hour and around 100-150 euros for various 45 or 60 minute sessions.[/QUOTE]I go to Barcelona regularly and would love to learn more about the private apartments where I can get BBBJ from 18-23 year olds for 60. I didn't think that this would be available, so I didn't even try to look. Plus, I was traveling with a girlfriend that particular trip.

Wait, I did venture into a "tantric massage" place called Shambala Zen where I got lucky. A really nice BBBJ to completion from an Eastern European gal (who was the manager), but it cost close to 200! There were a number of nice local girls. I chose the manager as she was mid 30's but really looked like she knew her way around a penis. It was on Carrer de Girona. VERY nicely decorated.

I took photos of the room and sign, which I'll attach, as there was a no photos policy at the place.

[QUOTE=Tommylove;2163831]I go to Barcelona regularly and would love to learn more about the private apartments where I can get BBBJ from 18-23 year olds for 60. I didn't think that this would be available, so I didn't even try to look. Plus, I was traveling with a girlfriend that particular trip.

Wait, I did venture into a "tantric massage" place called Shambala Zen where I got lucky. A really nice BBBJ to completion from an Eastern European gal (who was the manager), but it cost close to 200! There were a number of nice local girls. I chose the manager as she was mid 30's but really looked like she knew her way around a penis. It was on Carrer de Girona. VERY nicely decorated.

I took photos of the room and sign, which I'll attach, as there was a no photos policy at the place.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/teensbcn-napols-17x-consell-de-cent-bcn-f373.html?langid=1[/URL]

[URL]https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/divine-sex-metro-verdaguer-bcn-687106282-f390.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.vecinitasbcn.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/deseos-barcelona-av-sant-ramon-nonat-1x-bcn-629200231-f248.html[/URL]

[URL]http://deseosbarcelona.com/[/URL]

Of course go to the ISG Barcelona thread to read more details of these three places.

The first two specialize in 18-23 year olds. The first one (teensbcn) doesn't have its own website, but the second one does. Open the links using the Google chrome browser to read the ads and links in English. The prices start at 70 euros for 30 minutes and this is always reported to include BBBJ.

The third place has more 25-35 year old South American ladies, but they are hot and more porno style girls. Their rates start at 60 euros for 30 minutes and are BBBJ.

All three places get all great reviews. Contact them using whatsapp. You need to send your whatsapp messages in Spanish, so you use Google Translate to compose it in English, translate it, and copy and paste it to whatsapp.

You make an appointment with a specific lady. They don't generally do line-ups. You get the exact address when you make an appointment, but the information in the linked sites gives you approximate addresses.

[QUOTE=LOLWTFBBGirl;2105653]Hi guys,
I'm looking for a country to monger some fair skin hotties. I live in the Philippines right now and I'm tired of brown skin and the whole slaner look'. I want some really fair skin Asian hottie. I almost booked a ticket to Seoul (s Korea) but after reading the forums it sounds abysmal there. I'm not looking for as active scene like it is in Philippines but a country where it's relatively easy to find girls even if there is a language barrier.[/QUOTE]Do you find fair skinned Vietnamese girls attractive? Where can you find them rather than Vietnam? Answer: Camb & Malaysia. Read the forum, its all there but spare some for me please.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2163850]Do you find fair skinned Vietnamese girls attractive? Where can you find them rather than Vietnam? Answer: Camb & Malaysia. Read the forum, its all there but spare some for me please.[/QUOTE]In reading the forums, I remember guys saying that Macau is Viet heaven. And of course Macau is a bit more "European" and upscale than other parts of Asia, while still having enough rural countryside to have charm. Of course it wouldn't have spectacular tourist attractions like Angor what (SP?) in Cambodia, but the hotels in Macau would be more girl friendly and certainly the massage parlors are easier to find in Macau for an English only speaker than Cambodia (and Macau incall is more upscale and of course more expensive).

The only thing that bothered me reading the Macau reports was that the many ladies appear to have a strange custom during BBBJ of stopping the action and spitting into a towel or something and then resuming BBBJ (which is not usually done to completion). Is that true? If so, WTF? It goes in your mouth and stays there, sweetheart. No guy wants the flow of action to stop.

Reading around the forum, including this thread, I conclude that the best cities / countries for STR are (In random order):

1) Jakarta Indonesia.

2) Manila, Philippines.

3) Singapore.

4) Macau.

5) Thailand.

6) Romania.

7) Czech Republic.

With Jakarta and Manila being the least expensive.

In the above cities and countries, entering a bar and indicating to a girl that you're interested in dating her in return for money would get you a positive reply and 3-4 days of sex and fun in return for an affordable price, if we compare it to escorts and brothels graduates.

Feel free to correct me or expand on my list as you wish.

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2164140]Reading around the forum, including this thread, I conclude that the best cities / countries for STR are (In random order):

1) Jakarta Indonesia.

2) Manila, Philippines.

3) Singapore.

4) Macau.

5) Thailand.

6) Romania.

7) Czech Republic.

With Jakarta and Manila being the least expensive.

In the above cities and countries, entering a bar and indicating to a girl that you're interested in dating her in return for money would get you a positive reply and 3-4 days of sex and fun in return for an affordable price, if we compare it to escorts and brothels graduates.

Feel free to correct me or expand on my list as you wish.[/QUOTE]Brazil and Russia are the best countries, nobody beats them at sex. Asian girls really suck at sex, aside from Japanese women. Most Asian women can't take a dick.