Extremely well-written, great advice
[QUOTE=Off Road]I hesitate to add an opposing opinion to the recent posts about falling for a GDP. I have twice and do not regret it. There are so many factors.
We all know they do P4P and normally do not get attached. Some of them like the life, use drugs, hang out together, live 4-8 per apartment and this is their life. The two I came to know both were professional, they came to work, earned their money, went home, supported their families. They did not like the work, they wanted out. BUT they still need money. Both never used drugs. One had children, one did not. Both do not want to come to USA to live (neither do I).
I married one of them and was with her for 5 years, she is still my best friend, we talk all the time about everything. She has a regular job now and is not in the life. At times she thinks that it would be easy money, but so far has not gone back to that life, she knows there is no future in it. When we divorced she did not want one penny, nothing.
The one I am with now, I support her, quite a bit. I know what I can afford and that is not an issue for me. I do ask why she stays with me. Her response is that I am a good person, nice to her, I give her security. At times I do feel I am a father figure to both of them, but I can live with that. I provide security for them, and they provide sex for me, and as you all know, there is a lot of that compared to american women. She asks why I stay with her, I my answer is that she is fun to be with, is young, likes sex, likes to talk about life and situations. I know her and all of her family, we go to family outings, etc. So she gets security, I get a nice wife. One other thing to use as a test, is the relationship getting better or worse.. in both my cases, it gets better with time. I could not say that for my marriages in America.
So, have I fallen in love with a GDP, perhaps. I do like the life. My american wife had sex with me like once a year, and at the divorce, what I gave her is a fraction of what I would end up supporting the girl here.
I have no doubt that if I stopped staying with the current girl, she will return to being a GDP, unless we get a business up and running for her, which is her dream. She does not like the GDP life and will talk openlly to me about it. She will help my gringo friends know which GDPs will rob or steal from you or which will be honest and nice (no sex performance rating thogh). Some of you know me and my GF/wife.
All that said. Most of the posts you see about guys sending money, they are mostly true, many just want a guy to come and go away. But if you are here full time, you can find someone to be with, is it Love? that is an age old question. You can wonder about that with an american wife just as well.
I post this once in a while and get a lot of PMs that others do the same but just do not want to get flamed. I like to give some optimisism to some. A good girl can be found and you can be happy with them. As someone said, you do have to know your limits.
So if you think you want to get a permanent relationship I would suggest:
1. Find out if they do drugs.
2.. Ask why they are a GDP, understand their situation.
3.. Learn who they hang out with, talk to other mongers if they know her.
4.. Build trust over time, ask why they are with you, it better be a good answer.
5.. Do not sell your house, investments to support someone, only spend what you can affort.
6.. If you do not support her to what she thinks is adaquate, she will continue to work. They have a very inflated view of what they earn, figure they just multiply their daily rate by 30, that is probably what they will want.
7. Let them know that at times you want other women, just for sex, this is a tough one, but it will work out, especially if you are smart enough to get them to bring up the idea (like when they are tired or menstrating). This does work.
So that is some balance, some will try this and get burned. But no difference than marrage in the USA, except you have a hot brazilian instead of an american princess.[/QUOTE]
The posts here keep getting better and better. Off Road my hat is off to you. Insightful and sage advice. I hope someone puts this in reports of distinction. I am over my limit!
Perkele: Preach Brotha Preach
[QUOTE=Perkele]Gentlemen!
Let me remind you of few points:
1. DO NOT fall in love with a GDP
2. NO matter how much you wish that she's in love with you, that's not the case. Its the content of your WALLET she's after
3. Brasilian GDP's are the BEST actressess in their business
4. Once a ho, always a Ho
5. You can't turn a ho into a girlfriend
There are so many suckers in the game. You'd be surprised how many of these girls have fooled guys into sending money to them.[/QUOTE]
I will state that there is a small likelihood that the GDP may really be a hard working girl who is in a tough economic bind and is seeking a short-term remedy. I've met GDPs who were secretaries and teachers who have kids and need some extra help. Some turned out to be solid chicas and great LT companions. Hey, maybe some are wifey material...they make up <2% of the GDP population.
That said, most GDPs are NOT these kind of women. Moreover, the small percentage that say they are these kind of women are lying and are really just straight hookers. You may get lucky with an 18yr old newbie who has not yet been turned into a parana by years of selling bunda, but they make up <2% of the GDP population too.
Here's a funny story. I am here in a Northeastern US city, and there are these two Brazilian girls at my local strip club. One from Rio and one from SP. The SP chica is dying to get married and I think is in the US illegally now (overstayed visa) and it all-in GDP. The Rio chick is married to a 50ish guy who picked her up in a Copa 'biote' and saved her a$$, brought her back to the states, etc. He apparently does not know that she 1) strips and 2) still does a lil' programa work as well. I mean, once a GDP man, always a GDP. This chica was saved, and rewards her man by being a stripper and still s*cking other dudes off in the back room of some dinky strip club?
These GDPs get attracted to the fast money, the lifestyle, etc. These girls have friends who've gotten married to Americans, stayed for about 5 years, got divorces and headed straight back home. Even with an airtight pre-nup, your assets are at risk...and with a kid, forget about it! You're toast! Plus alimony...not worth the financial risk in my view...even with a US babe! Why be Captain Save-A-Ho and have half your future weath and assets at risk with some Brazilian hooker (or any chick for that matter). If you can bring her here without marrying her, go right ahead, but marraige is a huge contingent liability at ALL TIMES, and espeically with a former hooker.
Like I've said on this thread before...find yourself a real worker in Brazil who happens to be hot, and that is your potential wife...the cleaning lady, the hotel receptionist, the Lojas Americanas cashier, the barmaid, the tour guide, the language professor....but not your average GDP...fellas c'mon!