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[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1192844]Saw two extremely sexy girls entering Alcatraz go-go. Decided to check it out but was denied entry (can you believe that) , they told me it was a members only club, which was hard to believe. I even offered to pay for 2 drinks upfront, but he didn't budge, probably didn't like the way I dressed or looked, maybe some senior members of the forum can explain.[/QUOTE]What is your nationality? Also, please provide a height and weight profile and what you were wearing. You asked, we will try to answer.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1192823]Try.
[url]http://www.booking.com[/url]
Instead. No pre-payment, impeccable customer service anywhere in the world. No hidden taxes or add-ons. Most liberal cancellation policies I have ever seen.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I noticed that. The funny thing is they are both owned by the same parent company, Priceline.
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[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1192844]Around 4:30 a. M, she gets a call from her friend and decides to leave (she explained that they shared a bike and the keys were with her, her friend was waiting for the keys at WS).[/QUOTE]Always the same story of the keys. Happens everywhere.
We should put the question beforehand: do you need to give your keys to your friend before we go? LOL
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[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1192922]Always the same story of the keys. Happens everywhere.
We should put the question beforehand: do you need to give your keys to your friend before we go? LOL[/QUOTE]Maybe we should come up with a check list.
We could start with.
1. Keys for Bike.
2. Keys for room.
3. Do you have a friend who is sick.
4. Do you have a friend who has just been arrested.
5. Are you hungry.
6. Do you have to wake up early for school.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2;1192915]What is your nationality? Also, please provide a height and weight profile and what you were wearing. You asked, we will try to answer.[/QUOTE]I believe there was a report recently that another guy had the same problem? He was either Black or Indian? I haven't been there but have been next door and had no problems and they say I look Thai? Might have to give it a try one night and see if they turn me away? If not, then they might have taken me for a high roller Japanese or Korean?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Betong; 1192537]Sure there are, at least throughout the peak hours from mid-afternoon to early evening. The problem is that most of them are either fat, ugly, overaged, or male.
Don't get me wrong, I still love Soi 6, but it can take a lot of looking these days to find a good one there. And the best ones you seldom even see out front because they're usually either inside or upstairs with customers.[/QUOTE]Youtube videos of soi 6 confirm what you say. IMO SWs around NEP in BKK undoubtedly offer far better looks for the same price or less. That is factoring in 700 ST plus 300 room fee, or even more I assume for a BF if taken to one's hotel.
They may also be more convenient in the capitol for pickup and return to one's hotel. I can leave my room and be back again with the girl inside 10 minutes. This has the added benefit of no need to shower again, since I shower just before going out.
If soi 6 girls offered better service or the hotels & such in Pattaya were cheaper those would be factors favoring soi 6 in Pattaya. I think the latter is probably the case, but my guess is that the former is quite questionable.
All in all, though, from the looks of over 95% of the soi 6 girls on youtube, they'ld have to pay me to go with them. Bottom line, I think the scene I described in BKK is probably much better.
See the youtube video of prostitutes walking outside a Macau casino to get an idea of the quality of girl much more easily found as an SW in the capitol.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2;1192915]What is your nationality? Also, please provide a height and weight profile and what you were wearing. You asked, we will try to answer.[/QUOTE]Was speaking to a fellow mongerer during breakfast and he claimed it was due to my Indian origin. I lived in India for 18 years before I left to study in Europe. Been working with multi-national company since 12 years and spend 9 out of 12 months working abroad in various places, some quite remote. I spend most of the remaining 3 months travelling and mongering, mainly in Indonesia and the Caribbean / S. America. I totally understand the Indian mindset where one is taught very early to save, however I do believe my mongering expenses on any given night easily exceed more than 70 percent of fellow mongerers of all nationalities. So it's a shame that due to some of my Indian brothers (who I admit do behave cheap and badly) , coloured guys like myself have to suffer. I have particularly noticed this kind of racial profiling in Thailand (probably because unlike Indonesia or Caribbean, I do not speak the local language, I speak decent Bahasa and Spanish). When I was in Pattaya 4 years ago, I had a similar problem in one of the go-go's (cannot remember name) , a bribe of 100 baht worked, similar problem in Phuket 2 years ago. This kind of problem has never been encountered in the Caribbean / S. America in so many visits. The clubs should be interested in who spends on drinks and pays bar fines, not on race and colour and even dressing.
I'm not sure maybe my dressing had something to do with it (T-shirt, shorts & slippers) , perhaps they have a dress code. Regarding appearance I'm 1. 72m and 75 kg in my early thirties, but I doubt that had anything to do with it. Senior members, please advise if I'm missing anything apart from the obvious stated in this message.
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[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1192952]Was speaking to a fellow mongerer during breakfast and he claimed it was due to my Indian origin... I totally understand the Indian mindset where one is taught very early to save,... So it's a shame that due to some of my Indian brothers (who I admit do behave cheap and badly) , coloured guys like myself have to suffer... I have particularly noticed this kind of racial profiling in Thailand ... When I was in Pattaya 4 years ago, I had a similar problem in one of the go-go's (cannot remember name) , a bribe of 100 baht worked, similar problem in Phuket 2 years ago.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the guy at breakfast told you right; if some go-go's think you are Indian they won't let you in and I've seen many Indians and Arabs waved away at the door.
I think it's the girls who complain because of stories or perhaps bad personal experiences with Indians, who they tell me "smell" bad, and try to cheat them of their fees. I've heard many stories from them about being taken by an Indian to his hotel only to find 3 or 4 of his friends who expect a gangbang.
Your situation would probably improve by dressing better and making sure you appear squeeky clean with a fat wallet. The girls love money more than they hate Indians.
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Adrenalinrush,
I believe you got the right information. Indian, yes your brothers over breakfast gave you the right information and it is the shame. Your size and dress doesn't have much to do with it if the guy knew what to look for except the sterotype he was given. Depending on the T-shirt, shorts, and slippers if it doesn't look like what a Indian from India would wear if the guy had a brain he would have let you in. I walk around in my shorts, T-shirts and sandles but one can tell they aren't Thai made. Many of clubs I have gone to even in the darkside when I enter think I am the Thai police but take a second look and say nothing to me. This has been what I'm normally told when I go to a new club.
Sterotype, go to beach road near the end outside the tourist booth at night and see how they act and gang up on the girls. The girls I see with them visually seem very hardcore. Years ago I sat on Beach road watching and checking out the scene and saw a Indian in long dress strike up a conversation she walked away after a few second towards one of her girlfriends and I bascially overheard her in Thai say this stinky basterd want me for 250 baht, I might as well drive a taxi if I go for that.
LBM
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[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush; 1192952]This kind of problem has never been encountered in the Caribbean / S. America in so many visits. The clubs should be interested in who spends on drinks and pays bar fines, not on race and colour and even dressing.
I'm not sure maybe my dressing had something to do with it (T-shirt, shorts & slippers) , perhaps they have a dress code. Regarding appearance I'm 1. 72m and 75 kg in my early thirties, but I doubt that had anything to do with it. Senior members, please advise if I'm missing anything apart from the obvious stated in this message.[/QUOTE]I am sorry you had that experience. I hate racism in all forms. It should only matter who you are as a person, not what you look like. Every single girl I have had the pleasure of playing with, no matter what race, has been pink inside where it counts.
So far in all my travels the most color blind places on earth are Aruba and Curacao, followed by many other Caribbean islands. There are some exceptions, but in general there has been an intermingling of races in the Caribbean for around 300 years. There are very large Indian and Chinese populations on most islands as well as West Indians, South Americans and Europeans. Of course on most islands US culture and money is the driving force.
When you live on a small island, many of them smaller in area than Bangkok, you learn to get along with everyone. You have to.
The Caribbean is my home base for business and mongering. There is a warmth and passion found in the chicas that is both exciting and comforting.
I love LOS and hope to retire there, but the Caribbean will always be home.
Pogo
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Spent the full day shopping on beach road. Yes, compared to 4 years ago, there are definitely more Indians and Arabs around, more on the street, more Indian & Arab restaurants and shops (I saw an entire street behind walking street full of bars, restaurants and shops owned by Arabs, they were all even playing Arabic music). The Chinese and Indian economies have done very well over the past 6-8 years, hence more can afford to travel and invest abroad. The cheapest places to go for holiday from India are Dubai, Malaysia and Thailand, Thailand being the only country among these to give visas on arrival to Indian nationals. Even flying between two far away cities in India costs about the same or more. Besides people have realized that a week's holiday in Thailand would cost them considerably less than one within India due to the extremely high hotel prices in India. Hence the greater number of Indians. Arab world and to a large extent India are sex-starved countries and cheapest and closest place to release is Thailand. So I know where all this is coming from. I just hope some of these guys improve their behavior, it's limiting my opportunities.
On another note, the 18 yr old hot number from my first night (from Champion go-go) called and said she would come to my room at 10, had a great time with her on day 1, so didn't turn it down. Was exploring other options on beach road but couldn't see anything I liked, all looked old and hardened, one has to be extremely lucky and patient to find something decent. Had drinks at 2 bars on my way back on soi Diana, saw 2-3 cute bargirls, will pursue if things go wrong tonight or perhaps keep that option for tomorrow, I prefer LT to ST.
This question should probably go in the hotel reports, however today I passed by Siam Bayshore and Siam Bayview hotels and asked if they charged a joiner fee. Contrary to reports in this forum, both clearly said if I booked a room for 2, there will be no joiner fee. In that case, I may move tomorrow. The only reason I checked in LK Metropole was because the forum reports suggested that the more upmarket hotels charge 800-1000 baht joiner fees, which I refuse to pay. If anyone has past experience at these hotels please share. Will keep posting.
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[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1192952]The clubs should be interested in who spends on drinks and pays bar fines, not on race and colour and even dressing.[/QUOTE]Well said, but this has to do with both culture and being business oriented.
Thre are clubs in some places (not referring to Thailand) that accepts weird characteres and beahviour as the guys spend a lot of money in there. Not a correct business module too as one risks to have decent guys spending decent money going away from certain wild crowds.
You are intelleginte and well educated, thanks god, to know all this and it is to be appreacited you ahev the right attitude in facing these troubles!
My simpathy (I am white, but not always proud! LOL)
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[QUOTE=Daddy07;1192960]The girls love money more than they hate Indians.[/QUOTE]Should be printed in some bars! .
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Soi LK Go-go bars
My girl from day 1 who called & said she would come to my room at 10 was a no-show. I called her up at 11 and she took my room no. And said she would be there by midnight, then at 11:30 she calls and says something about her friend leaving for Bangkok to meet her mom and she would meet me the next day (I didn't bother understanding and hung up on her). I was upset as I knew that by midnight, all the good girls in most go-go's would have gone. Anyway, I decided to check out the go-go's on soi LK, just behind my hotel. First Submarine go-go, quite a small place but crowded. Saw all the pretty girls were already sitting with customers. There were few young really chubby ones, they looked really young. The one I had my eye on was sitting with a group of North African guys (Arabs) , some big spenders who already had 2-3 stunners with them from other places. They left without her so I bought her a drink, she knew English well, but refused to go for LT, only ST which would cost me 600 barfine + 200 for room + 1500 for girl (she refused to come down and refused to walk to my hotel just down the road). Mamasan said it was only her second day at work and she lived alone with her mum, she was 19 (could not tell if info was true). IMHO, LT is better value for money and for a few hundred more, I prefer to sleep with a beautiful lady in my arms, plus the morning pop. So I got up and left, it was well past 1, next stop Office go-go, larger place, also quite crowded, had a drink here, did not see anything interesting, so moved on to next stop Champagne go-go, where there were quite a few good-looking women still available (it appeared so since I was already 7-8 drinks down). Chose one called Pay (18 whyear old verified from her I. The, quite tall around 1. 70 mtrs, good attitude, barfined her 600 bahts, she wanted 2000 to stay till noon, it was already almost 3. Have her in my room, will continue report tomorrow.
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[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1193151]I was upset as I knew that by midnight, all the good girls in most go-go's would have gone.[/QUOTE]Interesting reports dude. If you need a girl late at night then try clubs on walking street. Lucifers, Insomnia (go after 1 am) , Marine disco (something similar) , minx (less FL) would be worth checking and girls are usually interested in LT. Just make sure you agree on price before hand (anything from 1000-2000). Experience could be a hit or miss so try to spend some time with her in the club and get some chemistry going. I am not sure if they allow shorts and flip flops so go with jeans and t-shirt instead. Good luck.