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[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2508040]You have found a way to get the admins to protect you, you sensitive little pussy.
How about you ask them not to do that![/QUOTE]Admins, please stop protecting me.
I hope this doesn't result in me being struck by a meteor.
Oh shit. I just imagined Admin2 playing poker while wearing a fairy godmother costume.
Did that work? I never realized they were protecting me. As many times as they have stomped on my dick, I was pretty sure that protecting me was somewhere on their list of priorities below "Find a fat, old, ugly woman who gives toothy blowjobs for $200."
Sensitive? Me? Sure, I cry whenever I watch a touchy-feely chick flick with a girl, but that's only because I realize the sex won't be worth having to sit through the movie.
Little? Not even close on that one. You know the grab rail on the Medellin metro? Of course you don't. How silly of me. Anyway, 99 out of 100 trips on the metro, I'm the only one who has to worry about hitting his head on the grab rail.
Pussy? This coming from the guy who keeps telling everyone what he would do in places he won't ever go? It would appear you're not qualified to make that judgement.
There's absolutely nothing you can do on this forum that I need any protection from. Do you honestly think you're going to hurt me with words? You really should have been RTFF. I spent 8 years as a Navy snipe, one of the last group to survive Snipe's Castle (and I doubt if anyone here understands what that means). Just the way some of us said good morning would have you running upstairs to cling to mommy's skirt. Go right ahead and do your worst. It will give me a chance to reminisce about 3rd grade.
Or you can get back to the subject of "making mongering better for all." Still waiting on that contribution.
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[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2508069]I was raised Catholic, I attended all Catholic schools grammar / HS and University was also an altar boy, I'm 53 yo and I have never read 1 single page or verse of the bible.
So yes I am an atheist and yes abortion is murder / infanticide.
Whoormonger? Guilty as charged your Honor, put me on the Group W bench with the rest of these freaks![/QUOTE]So. Because I have so much fun with people who are incapable of using logic. Any miscarriage is at a minimum involuntary manslaughter?
It's estimated that nearly 50% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. Out of every 100 pregnancies, 30 will miscarry before they are aware of the pregnancy, 10-15 will end by miscarriage in the first trimester and 1-5 will miscarry in the second trimester.
Under your reasoning, please explain the appropriate penalty for the following classes of miscarriage:
1. A woman who was raped and miscarried before she was aware of the pregnancy.
2. A woman who used birth control and had consensual sex, but the method used failed and she miscarried before aware of the pregnancy.
3. A woman who didn't use birth control, had consensual sex, miscarried before aware of the pregnancy.
4. All of the above who miscarried after becoming aware of the pregnancy.
5. A woman who contracts food poisoning (listeriosis) and miscarries.
6. A woman who miscarries after being beaten up by her alpha male boyfriend.
7. A woman who undergoes chemotherapy, unaware of her pregnancy and has a miscarriage.
That's enough for now. No sense in discussing the prison sentences for women who can't afford prenatal vitamins, or who accidentally fall down a flight of stairs.
What you're crawling on is called a slippery slope. If any abortion is murder, any fertilized over is a living human being given the same rights and protections as everyone else. However, the exact moment of conception is impossible to determine (outside of a very invasive laboratory). If a woman has sex and begins her period the next day, did she just flush a human down the toilet, or was it just another unused egg?
That slippery slope ends with all sex, except sex specifically for the purpose of procreation, since it can result in pregnancy and therefore miscarriage, is immoral. Any miscarriage, unless it can be proven to be caused by another, is therefore a failure of the woman, resulting in death and therefore requires punishment. Under such a belief system, if a man beats up a woman, causing her to miscarry, she probably provoked him, therefore it's not his fault.
Yet you, at least on paper, and I and everyone else on this forum engage in activities which can result in pregnancy, leading to miscarriage, or abortion, without any concern. When was the last time anyone on this board, while balls deep in one of Medellin's finest (excluding you of course), has thought "if she gets pregnant I'll have to support her and the baby?
Not a single one of us has the moral authority to claim abortion is immoral. Not one of us has the moral authority to claim abortion is murder, unless that person is willing to completely forsake all sex (except for procreation). Anything less is hypocrisy.
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[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2507630]So yes they are advertising what they pay there and here also.
What was meant, I feel some weak mongers try to create distance between themselves and other mongers by deliberately overpaying whilst calling it balling.
(some overpay, but in reality most are being overcharged, call it a DLV surcharge if you will)[/QUOTE]The only thing this forum is good for really is information. You can get decent data here on supply and some with regards to pricing. But to be really accurate with pricing, you would need to know demand and quality are. The guys who think that they are masters at price just imagine what they are. At best, you can get a hazy picture of things. Also for some of us, our time is of value as well. Yesterday I paid 60,000 COP or 80,000 COP for a street girl on Santa Fe. If someone wants to say they got her for 40,000, do you think I am super impressed or that I don't give a shit?
On the other opaque end of the scale, I was with a seeking girl, and it was a top five experience sexually. This was her first date on seeking, and we fucked five times and were planning future dates.
Thing is that the price police dipshits do not even understand why I am giving her money at all. I could have given her nothing and sent her on the way and acted offended and called her a working girl if she did expect money.
And if I gave a shit what the price police assholes thought, wouldn't that be the best line of all? I got this hot chick and paid her nothing. Then you probably all would say that I am lying?
If I pay her 2 million COP, then I am a moron and overpaid her.
I have yet to see a guy on here a guy getting ragged on saying that they underpaid for sex.
So if you want to be a "baller" on here, you just see what other guys are paying and say you pay half that. Of course, that defeats the purpose of the forum with regards to price transparency.
You have no idea with regards to the quality of the sex (or how many other women I have been with to compare her to), her looks, her attitude, or how much demand she was in. If I say she has not had sex in a year, even though you do not know her or me, it cannot be true. Why? Because that is what you want to believe to be true for your own pathetic little egos.
The old game was to fuck as many women as you can. I have been there and done that. My game is to get the best woman and keep on seeing them.
So when I was giving her money, I was not paying her for sex. I am paying to have another experience like the one I had in the future. That is what I mean by an investment. Now what factors go into that price are worth talking about. Listening to some jag off tell me he got the same for half of whatever I paid? That is just some a dipshit loser with an ego problem.
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2508076]No it seems like people who have money strike a nerve with you.[/QUOTE]There's people who have money, and people who claim to have money. That's an important distinction, especially when monger forums are at issue. As about anyone of moderate or even modest means can afford to do the whole penthouse with city view apt, 300 mil an hour hookers, etc. For a week or two a year.
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Quintessential hypocrisy
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2508068]Moral implications? Have you read the bible to see what company they put us in? Here is the quote from the bible..
Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and,******mongers and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
The original text I pasted in said w-h-o-r-e monger but the forum is censoring the first part of the word.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.advocate.com/world/2020/12/02/anti-lgbtq-politician-caught-all-male-orgy-resigns-post[/URL]
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ET TU Elvis
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2508305]The only thing this forum is good for really is information. You can get decent data here on supply and some with regards to pricing. But to be really accurate with pricing, you would need to know demand and quality are. The guys who think that they are masters at price just imagine what they are. At best, you can get a hazy picture of things. Also for some of us, our time is of value as well. Yesterday I paid 60,000 COP or 80,000 COP for a street girl on Santa Fe. If someone wants to say they got her for 40,000, do you think I am super impressed or that I don't give a shit?
On the other opaque end of the scale, I was with a seeking girl, and it was a top five experience sexually. This was her first date on seeking, and we fucked five times and were planning future dates.
Thing is that the price police dipshits do not even understand why I am giving her money at all. I could have given her nothing and sent her on the way and acted offended and called her a working girl if she did expect money.
And if I gave a shit what the price police assholes thought, wouldn't that be the best line of all? I got this hot chick and paid her nothing. Then you probably all would say that I am lying?.[/QUOTE]We have discussed this before and I agreed that I believe how you "roll" is unique to mongering and yet you still want to act offended my opinions that have never been directed at you?
I think your hypersensitive post speaks volumes, include yourself in that group at your own peril.
The fact you want to be offended is very revealing in many ways.
My sympathies!
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2508305]So when I was giving her money, I was not paying her for sex. I am paying to have another experience like the one I had in the future.[/QUOTE]But did you make that explicitly known to her? Why do you assume that your money will achieve you getting the same experience? Who is to say that the same experience could not have been gotten over and over again for the rest of your life without money?
You put a lot of faith in your money being able to achieve things for you. When folks like that go broke they end up jumping out of windows and shit. I am the same mf that I was when I had a bus pass and was eating 2 - 49 cent Taco Bell tacos for lunch, bringing my own cup to steal drinks from the self serve, and eating hot dogs and ramen noodles for dinner every night. Same game but these days with more money in my pocket.
Take it from the likes of Jeff Bezos, Tracy Morgan, Emmit Smith, Dr. Dre: Your money is only good for keeping a broad until she finds a way to take half of it from you.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2508305]The only thing this forum is good for really is information. You can get decent data here on supply and some with regards to pricing. But to be really accurate with pricing, you would need to know demand and quality are. The guys who think that they are masters at price just imagine what they are. At best, you can get a hazy picture of things. Also for some of us, our time is of value as well. Yesterday I paid 60,000 COP or 80,000 COP for a street girl on Santa Fe. If someone wants to say they got her for 40,000, do you think I am super impressed or that I don't give a shit?
On the other opaque end of the scale, I was with a seeking girl, and it was a top five experience sexually. This was her first date on seeking, and we fucked five times and were planning future dates.
Thing is that the price police dipshits do not even understand why I am giving her money at all. I could have given her nothing and sent her on the way and acted offended and called her a working girl if she did expect money.
And if I gave a shit what the price police assholes thought, wouldn't that be the best line of all? I got this hot chick and paid her nothing. Then you probably all would say that I am lying?[/QUOTE]Elvis you real seam to have your act together and have game. Not sure why you are hanging out in Colombia, but that is your decision, for me there are many destinations much better. You are wasting you time argue with these guys. You are correct, get a great hot girl and hang onto her, then mix in some Newbies.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2508248]So. Because I have so much fun with people who are incapable of using logic. Any miscarriage is at a minimum involuntary manslaughter?
It's estimated that nearly 50% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. Out of every 100 pregnancies, 30 will miscarry before they are aware of the pregnancy, 10-15 will end by miscarriage in the first trimester and 1-5 will miscarry in the second trimester.
Under your reasoning, please explain the appropriate penalty for the following classes of miscarriage:
1. A woman who was raped and miscarried before she was aware of the pregnancy.
2. A woman who used birth control and had consensual sex, but the method used failed and she miscarried before aware of the pregnancy.
3. A woman who didn't use birth control, had consensual sex, miscarried before aware of the pregnancy.
4. All of the above who miscarried after becoming aware of the pregnancy.
5. A woman who contracts food poisoning (listeriosis) and miscarries.
6. A woman who miscarries after being beaten up by her alpha male boyfriend.
7. A woman who undergoes chemotherapy, unaware of her pregnancy and has a miscarriage.
That's enough for now. No sense in discussing the prison sentences for women who can't afford prenatal vitamins, or who accidentally fall down a flight of stairs..[/QUOTE]One of the weirdest post I've ever seen on ISG. Abortion and miscarriage are two completely different things. There are no "slippery slope".
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2508350]But did you make that explicitly known to her? Why do you assume that your money will achieve you getting the same experience? Who is to say that the same experience could not have been gotten over and over again for the rest of your life without money?
You put a lot of faith in your money being able to achieve things for you.[/QUOTE]I do a profile on women before I do anything else but that does not seem to be something that helps others so I will not go into. Basically, it showed me that she was lousy with money but great with sex. So if she said do not give me any money (and this has happened many times), that would mean she is interested in a romantic relationship, and I am not interested in getting into a relationship with a woman I know who is horrible with money.
So let me state what I think are your beliefs. The women on seeking are all working girls and how much you pay has no bearing on your sexual encounter.
Okay, so how come this woman is not fucking everyone who walks if it is just about money? If they are all working girls, that is what they should be doing. Do you believe that an increase in supply lowers prices? Well, in my area, there are 10,000+ women on seeking and about 500 hookers. If all the women on seeking were hookers, the prices should have gone way down, and that has not happened. In fact, they have gone up.
I agree with you that hookers do not respond to incentives. A long term relationship for them is having a good drug dealer. Generosity is weakness with them, but you are telling me that there are no women who would dabble in a safer, more social acceptable form of prostitution to make ends meet and who do respond to incentives? That is delusion, and you are only looking at evidence that supports your point of view.
You have two bright line categories of women: working girls and not working girls. My version of reality is a sliding scale. If things get bad enough, almost all women will turn to prostitution.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2508350]Take it from the likes of Jeff Bezos, Tracy Morgan, Emmit Smith, Dr. Dre: Your money is only good for keeping a broad until she finds a way to take half of it from you.[/QUOTE]That is a great attitude to have with working girls. If there are women who take money for sex and respond to incentives, and you tell me that you are not, then I am a fool. But if there are women who are selective about their escorting and do respond to incentives, then you are missing out.
And I think that is what bugs you. You do not want to trust any woman who sell any part of themselves. You are equating the risk of a broken heart. There is no broken heart possible here. Sure, I like this woman. How could I not like a woman who did everything possible to sexually please me? We fucked in the damned hotel pool.
My financial risk was one hour of pay from work. I will tell her in the future that our personalities can connect for fun, but when it comes to a serious business deal, we are not compatible, and she will stay with me until something better comes along.
With one of my long term SBs, she was dating a guy and was serious with him, and I broke it off with her. She was afraid of the financial loss that came along with her not being a SD, and I told her that what she was doing was not fair with THIS one guy. And you know what she did? She sent me an invitation to her wedding, and I went and had a good time. I still have not met a woman who gave better head.
I do not talk enough about the good SB SD relationships.
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I second that
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2508499]One of the weirdest post I've ever seen on ISG. Abortion and miscarriage are two completely different things. There are no "slippery slope".[/QUOTE]It's pretty off the edge of sanity. I am by no means a bible thumper but wacky liberal talking points like this only gives the prolife credibility. Does he even know what the meaning behind abortion is? Intention.
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[QUOTE=ShooBree;2508499]One of the weirdest post I've ever seen on ISG. Abortion and miscarriage are two completely different things. There are no "slippery slope".[/QUOTE]You're back from when you crawled away to lick your wounds last time. How delightful!
I understand English isn't your first language and rational thought isn't something you've ever achieved, but that should read "there is no slippery slope." Which is, keeping your record perfect, wrong.
1. There have already been cases prosecuted successfully in the US, against mothers who miscarried and it was determined their behavior was responsible for the miscarriage.
2. While still Governor of Indiana, current VP Mike Pence signed a law requiring funeral services for all abortions and miscarriages. Under the law every sexually active woman would have been required to have every monthly discharge examined at a lab to determine whether or not the egg had been fertilized, and if so, funeral services were required. Look up "Periods for Pence" for the reaction.
Of course the only difference between a miscarriage and an abortion is intent. The result is the same. Defining human life as beginning at the moment of conception is a slippery slope, because the exact moment of conception can't be determined.
As most men (at least those with functional penises, apparently not a group you belong to) are aware, semen is often emitted prior to ejaculation, and it can contain enough sperm to result in pregnancy. That arguably makes the moment of conception the same as the moment of penetration.
Abortion and miscarriage both terminate a pregnancy. If human rights are determined to be granted from the instant of conception, arguably the instance of penetration, any mishap resulting in the termination of the pregnancy, or possibly the prevention of the pregnancy, must be investigated to determine if fault exists.
If someone dies in an accident, there's always an investigation to determine fault. If I run over and kill another person, even if there was nothing I could do to avoid them, I can not only face civil penalties, I can be criminally prosecuted and sent to prison. How is that fundamentally different from a miscarriage, if any fertilized over is considered a human life?
You probably should stick to subjects you know something about. Maybe someone will start a thread about the advantages of eating lead based paint.
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[QUOTE=Ewe52;2508564]It's pretty off the edge of sanity. I am by no means a bible thumper but wacky liberal talking points like this only gives the prolife credibility. Does he even know what the meaning behind abortion is? Intention.[/QUOTE]Why yes, he actually does. You can address questions directly to me, rather than clinging to someone else's skirt. I will answer them. Ask anyone. I'm not afraid to speak my mind.
Since you're asking, go back and read it again. Tell me what is the fundamental difference between the result of an abortion and the result of a miscarriage. I'll give you a hint, since you don't seem to be too bright. If a person accidentally ingests a lethal dose of poison, or if a person intentionally ingests a lethal dose of the same poison, the result is the same.
Here's another hint. If a person accidentally falls from the top floor of Edificio Coltejer, their body strikes the sidewalk at the same velocity as if they had jumped or been pushed. The result is the same.
Using the last example, if I opened the window and got the victim drunk and then told him his wife was going to leave him and take everything he owned, do I share any liability for his death?
That should be an easy question to answer. Without my intervention the death would not have happened at that place and time.
See how simple that is? Did Shoo Bree at least shave his legs so you can cling to them without dealing with razor stubble?
Now back to the subject.
If a pregnant woman miscarries, the fetus, regardless of how developed, ceases to develop and becomes a mass of dead tissue. If a pregnant woman has an abortion, the fetus, regardless of how developed, ceases to develop and becomes a mass of dead tissue. For those who are particularly dim, the results are the same.
It is possible to cause a miscarriage, intentionally, call it a non-medical abortion if it makes it easier to understand.
Still following, or have you gone back to eating your crayons?
If, as a lot of complete fucking idiots want, human life is legally determined to begin at conception (which once again, because I'm apparently dealing with morons, can't be accurately determined), any miscarriage is potentially an intentional act to terminate a pregnancy. In other words, a legal determination must be made to determine if the miscarriage was murder, involuntary manslaughter or child endangerment resulting in death.
In the future, pull your head out of your ass before posting. It will save you some embarrassment.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2508575]You're back from when you crawled away to lick your wounds last time. How delightful!
I understand English isn't your first language and rational thought isn't something you've ever achieved, but that should read "there is no slippery slope." Which is, keeping your record perfect, wrong.
1. There have already been cases prosecuted successfully in the US, against mothers who miscarried and it was determined their behavior was responsible for the miscarriage.
2. While still Governor of Indiana, current VP Mike Pence signed a law requiring funeral services for all abortions and miscarriages. Under the law every sexually active woman would have been required to have every monthly discharge examined at a lab to determine whether or not the egg had been fertilized, and if so, funeral services were required. Look up "Periods for Pence" for the reaction.
Of course the only difference between a miscarriage and an abortion is intent. The result is the same. Defining human life as beginning at the moment of conception is a slippery slope, because the exact moment of conception can't be determined..[/QUOTE]If you honestly think the rights of women to safely choose to abort her pregnancy and causing malicious harm to an unborn resulting in loss is the same thing then you are not playing with a full deck. Do you understand what the term miscarriage even means? Do you think when Scott Peterson killed his wife and unborn child she suffered a miscarriage? Of course not he was charged with double murder.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2508623]Why yes, he actually does. You can address questions directly to me, rather than clinging to someone else's skirt. I will answer them. Ask anyone. I'm not afraid to speak my mind.
Since you're asking, go back and read it again. Tell me what is the fundamental difference between the result of an abortion and the result of a miscarriage. I'll give you a hint, since you don't seem to be too bright. If a person accidentally ingests a lethal dose of poison, or if a person intentionally ingests a lethal dose of the same poison, the result is the same.
Here's another hint. If a person accidentally falls from the top floor of Edificio Coltejer, their body strikes the sidewalk at the same velocity as if they had jumped or been pushed. The result is the same.
Using the last example, if I opened the window and got the victim drunk and then told him his wife was going to leave him and take everything he owned, do I share any liability for his death?
That should be an easy question to answer. Without my intervention the death would not have happened at that place and time.[/QUOTE]Yeah. You really need to step off from that ledge my friend. No one defines back alley clothes hanger abortion as miscarriages it's called murder. Seek help.