Pattaya - the only sexfun place - thanks for your remark
Thanks for you positive remark on my (not perfect English) report.
The price settings I mentioned were for LT and for an older man like me (51 years). Further I refer to nice young skinny girls, strange enough if you get older you start to take even younger girls. At the beach (same as in Bangkok) you see the dollar sighns in their eyes if you talk like me to a nice/young girl. For me (and people like me) the best is to go to soi 6 where the prices are (almost) fixed. But even then you have to be kind to the girl because she is not pressured by a mamasan to go out with you. Also they prefere a much younger man above an old man and if the girl lookes nice the probability is high that she can get a better looking / younger man. And with LT you claim the whole profit she can make for the whole night. In my case. I look rather good and smile nice and are friendly. About 40% of the nice girls will go with me. But because I am not a big spender and they have to do "some work" to help me as an older guy. They rarely want to stay with me for more days.
Except the once who like to marry me (never happened in Thailand).
But then again. If they like you so much that they want to marry you they want to take control over you (don't drink beer, don't look to other girls).
It feels like you are married for 10 years just after 2 days.
So in fact I am glad that they don't come back the next day. Saves me a lot of trouble/time to get rid of her and also if she runs away earlier then the time I want to have her I feel free to skip the whole Tip giving ceremony.
(I think you only give a tip is she did what you asked her at the moment of taking out)
200 bath BF + something of 600-800 bath I payed to a girl sitting outside at the table along the street at the beerbar just south from the intersection of the boulevard and the central Pattaya road (Pattaya Klang).
I mean the first bar along the boulevard road.
But that was a 28 year old woman, friendly but with a thick belly so I just put a blanket over her belly and didn't want to do it a second time at the morning.
I think beerbars are more ment for the beerboozing (verry) older men who get too drunk to see what they are doing. Why otherwise sit in the hot humid air drinking a 40Bath beer looking to all other older western men and seeing older fat locak working women while you could take a beer for 50 bath and sit in the aircon looking to young skinny naked girls (or with a miniskirt if you can't handle that). Anwer. You do that wen you get to old/large to move over to a better place a mile further and need to stay close to your hotel.
Even the gogo bars in the beerbar areas (like soi 11/12 and at the corner of soi 13/2) have the same quality of girls. And if you have the (bad)luck like me, a 70 year old men with a fat belly wil jump on the podium just in front of you to dance with the girls "the magarita".
Never seen that in quality bars. Even 10 bath for a beer is then too much.
[QUOTE=Opebo]Freelancers do far more short times, and in general make far more money, than the girls trapped sitting in bars.
No way. I get 500 baht freelancers. I would never consider paying more than 600 or 700 baht in Pattaya, unless it was for some serious extras.
I would like to applaud [b]Andre Cuipers'[/b] excellent analysis of the Thai sex scene - it certainly leaves a lot to be desire and is very overpriced. Kudos to Andre for telling it like it is. The whole buy-a-drink thing is incredibly tiresome, particularly for those of us who do not drink.
However I can say that he's quoting some very high prices there - almost double what I'm quoted. Usually the price on the Beach is 500 baht, sometimes (rarely) less, and certainly never more unless you are getting some serious extra services.
In the go-gos of Walking Street it is typically around 500 baht barfine and 1,500 baht short time, plus the 100 baht wasted on the obligatory drink. You may have to also buy the girl a 'drink' - in other words the barfine is actually around 600-620 when you add on this offensive demand. So all in is about 2,100 - true, far more than it is worth, but not 3-4K.
I would like to know where they have 200 baht bar fines and 600 baht all night beer bar girls.. I haven't ever run accross that.[/QUOTE]
NOT screwed on my trip dear J Ride
Thanks for you remark J Ride.
I just tell you what they asked to me for prices.
Returning from other countries I was not interested in paying 2000 Baht (all in) for LT in Pattaya (and even 4000 bath in Bangkok) to a 24+ yo woman while in other countries I payed 600-800 baht (equivalent) for 18-19 yo skinny pretty girls.
Yeah. I had a freeby from Tops foodcourt (smoking, long nails, 27 yo) a year ago. But in the same time a had a 18 yo virgen and an 17 yo girl in another country (freebies). In my reports I just mention what you would see normally.
But even if you take some time (get insight like you do) you will have similar ideas what the best city (or country) would be. What is good on the surface will only get better if you take more time.
But the best places are the one where you can enjoy youreself from the first day for every day/night (lot of bars and streetwalkers. Btw don't look in the walking street but on the pavement along the beach north of the walking street) and inbetween you can work your way down to (almost) freebies.
So I am not ripped of. They just tried to do that and already that point makes me to skip Thailand except drinking (happy hour) beers while looking to the best gogo show on earth.
I ment Also WIndmill on soi 15 from walking street like in another report. The most sleezy one I have ever seen in my life. Other men going with their fingers for 20 bath tip the the pussies. Not my taste. Give me the two girl banana trick of soi 14 (bar xxdolls) on a looking distance of 2 foot and with free food and this man is happy for a few days.
For taking a girl out I move to other countries, but to be honest. They are not so comfortable like Thailand and in most cases even the beer sucks.
So its good you found a good way J Ride.
I red a lot of tips on this site concerning Isaan/Laos and afterwards I didn't find anything there. Further I red a lot of reports of people who went banging with perfect girl for days and days and in the end there was no comment where they found that girl nor how old they were themselves. No doubt. If you are 35-40 and you look for a 25 yo women al Thai cities will offer you a lot of (almost free) pleasure. If you start getting grey hair and like the younger/skinny once you see $$$$ signs. And those I don't like I certainly never want to pay.
But a beer of 40 Baht with free food an a nice show made Pattaya the best town for me. And certainly the far best of Thailand.
Andre
[QUOTE=J Ride]It sounds like you got screwed on your trip Andre Cuipers. I would suggest reading through the forum a bit for tips on getting the most tail for your baht next time around. If I can help, give me a hollar.
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