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[QUOTE=Wadman; 1180763]Yes, I have mentioned several times that cherry girls are not CLEARLY MARKED, and would like them to be so.
The red "v" on their tag is a small red "v" which is not always visible. I D turned around the wrong way, girl too far away, bar too dark, etc. In no way would I consider that CLEARLY MARKING cherry girls.
So where's the contradiction?[/QUOTE]There are reasons other than virginity that a girl may not want to go with you. I have never bought a LD or taken a girl from the high-pressure show bars in Fields but I have found that it is no problem to ask a few quick questions before inviting a girl for a drink.
"Are you cherry girl?"
"Do you have mens?"
"Are you available for LT?"
If she answers those 3 questions correctly then I invite her down for a drink. Then the real interview / feeling out happens. I would guess if I get to that point there is a 75% chance that I will take her home.
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[QUOTE=Edward M; 1180856]"Are you cherry girl?"
"Do you have mens?"
"Are you available for LT?"
If she answers those 3 questions correctly then I invite her down for a drink.[/QUOTE]If a punter does what you say, it will 100% solve this problem about wasting money on drinks.
Even if you force girls to wear a big V, they can still reject your barfine for menstrating or she doesn't like you. So "V" or no "V", that's a pointless exercise.
What you've suggested is a SLAM DUNK solution. It's idiotic trying to get bars to change their policies when a consumer can take just 10 seconds doing what you've suggested (if a $4 drink really means that much to him).
[QUOTE=Wadman;1180797]If that were to be true, than we are all seriously off-topic. This is the International Sex Guide site, not the International Bar Guide site.[/QUOTE]No, we're completely on-topic because we're discussing activities, not venues.
Talking about banging girls from a bar is on-topic even if the bar's official purpose isn't to arrange sex. Just as, talking about banging girls from DIA or the mall is on-topic even if DIA or malls weren't built specifically for prostitution.
[QUOTE=MauiDude;1180582]You may be right mostly. But I do meet guys that come here for business.[/QUOTE]You'd have to admit that only a small percentage of men are there for "business".
And even so, after they conduct their business, they're probably in the bars.
The biggest liars in the world are straight males who're staying at a hotel on Fields but claims he's not interested in the bars.
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1180701]Of course, some mongers have difficulty reconciling the reality that they're patrons of a meat market with their Western, and most often American, values so they vilify other mongers in an attempt to assuage their feelings of guilt. However, they will continue to eat meat.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing wrong or contridictory with enjoying this hobby while supporting a bargirls' right to choose. That's not some political correct nonsense -- it's commonsense. Besides, if a guy can't get a girl in a desperate [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor country to sleep with him for money, it's the guy's problem, not the girl's.
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[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1180871]There's nothing wrong or contridictory with enjoying this hobby while supporting a bargirls' right to choose.[/QUOTE]Do bargirls in AC have to have a minimum number of barfines a month to make quota? I know they do this in LOS.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1180905]Do bargirls in AC have to have a minimum number of barfines a month to make quota? I know they do this in LOS.[/QUOTE]
No there is no barfine requirement. FYI prostitution is illegal in Philippines :) Some girls do not go out with customers at all. Lady drinks only. A girl who does go with customers is still no guarantee that she will go out with YOU. I had a number of refusals for various reasons - period, cherry, and one girl honestly stated she just doesnt like me. Its ok, its a free world, cant please everyone.
Refusing to buy the girl a drink will NOT improve your chances of her going out with you thats for sure. I recommend chatting with mama first, and ask her which girl is cherry, which one is barfine happy, which one has decent english lingo. Your odds of kissing a froggy will decrease.
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The biggest liars in the world are straight males who're staying at a hotel on Fields but claims he's not interested in the bars. [/quote]
A couple of times I was in AC just as a stopover on the trip from north provinces (pangasinan, zambales, baguio).. but yea I didnt stop to admire the scenery of Mt Arayat :D
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1180905]Do bargirls in AC have to have a minimum number of barfines a month to make quota? I know they do this in LOS.[/QUOTE]I have no clue. But if AC bars imposed such a rule, they risk getting shut down as barfines are illegal (and requiring an employee to spend the night with a stranger is unethical at best). With raids occurring a few times a year, I think bars know better than to risk being a target.
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Others have already posted, but I would suggest some bars might use the lady drinks as a quota.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1180905]Do bargirls in AC have to have a minimum number of barfines a month to make quota? I know they do this in LOS.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1180910]A girl who does go with customers is still no guarantee that she will go out with YOU. I had a number of refusals for various reasons. Period, cherry, and one girl honestly stated she just doesn't like me. Its ok, its a free world, can't please everyone.
Refusing to buy the girl a drink will NOT improve your chances of her going out with you thats for sure. I recommend chatting with mama first, and ask her which girl is cherry, which one is barfine happy, which one has decent english lingo. Your odds of kissing a froggy will decrease.[/QUOTE]What is the ratio of refusals to non-refusals? Are guys getting refused in some bars more than others?
Sounds like things are drastically changing in AC! Looks like mama will become everybody's best friend now.
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The bar game
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1180983]What is the ratio of refusals to non-refusals? Are guys getting refused in some bars more than others?
Sounds like things are drastically changing in AC! Looks like mama will become everybody's best friend now.[/QUOTE]A lot of variables. But to me its how you do the interview with the girl and how well you read between the lines.
Girls are getting better at scams and hustles.
Mama will hustle you also unless its a really good mama.
I just pay the drinks and talk to a girl if I get a good vibe watching her dance.
If I don't want cherry I ask first.
If she is on mens I don't worry because I am doing research and she is doing me a favor being in the bar.
So I do my interviews and try to get a sense of if we are compatable and how much she is willing to make me happy.
Living here I have changed a lot. I don't barfine the first night usually. Yes I want to fuck her of course.
But I want to spend more time taking my time and see if there are other things I like about her.
When I first moved here it was like as many girls as I could get and just boom boom.
Had more runners and poor expierences then but it was a numbers game for me.
Now its more about quality and compatability.
But I still want a naughty girl with open mind and also nice.
So I go to bars and other places to find the girls that I want to play.
If it was not for the bars and the girls I would never live here. Such a ghetto?
But still luckily lot of nice people I have met.
I refused a lot of girls and some refuse me. I don't head trip. I just say next in line
And the quality is more difficult as I am so picky now and she better show some enthusiasm.
Met girl at bunny ranch. Hot girl sat her down she would not put her arm around me and would not sit on my lap.
She said all she likes to do is sleep.
She does not like boom boom and has a baby at home so she is working the bar.
No enthusiasm and not affectionate. Bought her 150 pesos drink and said bye.
Now I was happy just to be an old guy with a young girl hot body sit next to me.
But I am looking for one that will boom 2 me and enjoy it. So I keep searching
Again its all in the interview and how you treat them are how you tell them what to do.
Everyone has their style some works better then others.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1180983]What is the ratio of refusals to non-refusals? Are guys getting refused in some bars more than others?[/QUOTE]I was never outright refused in the smaller bars on Fields like Lollipops, Gecko and Dirty Duck. In fact it seemed to me all the girls were asking almost begging to be chosen. Same in Bodyshop, except there was one girl who was pretty hot and who wore her hair Chinese style. She ignored my glances and was obviously marketing herself exclusively to the Asian trade. If she had shot me a smile just once I would have bought her a drink, but since she ignored me completely, I just laughed at her attitude and happily concentrated on selecting a girl from all the others in the bar. In the bigger bars the story is a little different. Some of the girls (a small percentage IMO) just don't seem interested. If a girl does not give me a smile or ignores my glances, that is enough for me. No point in even conducting an interview. There are so many girls in AC that want to be bar fined why focus on the ones not inclined?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1180983]What is the ratio of refusals to non-refusals? Are guys getting refused in some bars more than others?
Sounds like things are drastically changing in AC! Looks like mama will become everybody's best friend now.[/QUOTE]I think it is a little rare, I would imagine in the larger bars the girls that have the 3000 bar fine are most likely to refuse. A girl I pulled out had been talking to a guy and having a drink and I really wanted her but I thought she left with him when he left but then mamasan or the manager asked which girl I liked and I said the one that just left with the guy that was sitting there. She said no she didn't leave and I assumed it was because he didn't want her which made me extra suspicious of her. But she was a great session and turned out to tell me she denied leaving with that guy for some reason. To me there was nothing wrong with the guy and I can't believe that there's a ton of 30 year old guys like me walking through the door so maybe some of them go with a gut instinct or something. It's just like a strip club I suppose, it's hard to believe what these girls say sometimes. I talked to the manager of club asia or asia club and he said they just have to do the best to keep everything under control, he said it's normal for these girls to dissappear most likely with a customer for weeks at a time. I prefer the places in Manila, unless you really look at that health card to mean something I don't see the draw to AC. I like when you take a girl back to your hotel and money has never been discussed, it can lead to a problem in the morning but it never happened to me. They leave and ask for tip and I give them a fair tip.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1180983]What is the ratio of refusals to non-refusals? Are guys getting refused in some bars more than others?
Sounds like things are drastically changing in AC! Looks like mama will become everybody's best friend now.[/QUOTE]It is hard to say who will willing and who will refuse. It is just like dating. You try many girls and someone will say yes. You would think since it is prostituition none will say no.
Usual excuses like mens, I do only ST, Not feeling well, My family or friend is home waiting for me etc are just the options they have to decline your invitation politely. They are told to do that.
IMHO all these excuses go on the wayside once the girl likes you. Remember the girls do not consider themselves as prostitutes. They swear they do this because of poverty.
I have called the bluff on some girls on mens and have ended up very good sex all night but bloody sheets. Needed to tip the maid good. Same thing with ST only with many staying.
Till next evening with multiple shots.
I am sure everybody has a different experience with girls. Bottomline is if a girl refuses it is not personal. With literally hundreds of girls it is a non-issue.
What differentiates AC from other prostituition places is money alone cannot buy service and any girl.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1181063]Usual excuses like mens, I do only ST, Not feeling well, My family or friend is home waiting for me etc are just the options they have to decline your invitation politely. They are told to do that.[/QUOTE]I thought "I only do ST" was just that. Is it a way to shun the guy? Some have said that to me and I just take them ST. It never seemed like they didn't want to go, only that they thought of themselves as 'top shelf'.
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EWR Prices
Greetings everyone. It's been quite a while since I've been able to take a trip to Angeles, but I can finally go again this January. I used to have a list online that quoted all the current EWR prices of all the bars. Does anyone have a link that lists all the up to date prices?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1180983]What is the ratio of refusals to non-refusals? Are guys getting refused in some bars more than others?
Sounds like things are drastically changing in AC! Looks like mama will become everybody's best friend now.[/QUOTE]My bargirl refusal rate, both in AC, MBC, or any freelance place (including Top Gun in Jakarta) is 20 percent. Of these, the reason is rarely money. Its almost always this or that thing in my laundry list of needs."Oh no sir I don't do that." Those that refuse often try and set me up with someone else who will. I'm still amazed that 80 percent say yes.