Blink--always enjoy your reports.
I just wanted to mention that "kuya" is my favorite Tagalog word.
JC
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Blink--always enjoy your reports.
I just wanted to mention that "kuya" is my favorite Tagalog word.
JC
Hi,
It comes up over and over again: Filipinas and money. Basically, requests for money at all times in all forms should be expected.
We are lucky. The pressure to give money is actually less for foreigners. We can easily say "no". My asawa constantly sends money to the Philippines for her family. I don't mind because she works hard for it here in the US, and she loves her family. It is her choice. But it is truly amazing. Any time that any expense comes up the first response in a millisecond is to ask for money from relatives in the US. Anything: schooling, feast, beauty pageant, repairs to house, accidents, festival, dead chicken. And from all relatives no matter how distant.- and they've got plenty! When she visits the Philippines, she avoids visiting some relatives because she knows.
As has been mentioned previously, because of the strong obligation to family (which is admirable), there is never any question about sending money.
(by the way, asawa is correct. But she it totally into girls so I have no trouble in this hobby. Her father was openly a philanderer and her family pretty much just teased him about it. Basically as long as I stay loyal to home there is not problem. Besides there are few chicks that I can take for more than a week, so messing around with bar girls with or without her is not a problem; I ain't hanging with them for conversation or for too long)
These constant requests for money are not surprising at all. I believe the average wage in RP is $2 per day. If they get $50 from you.- Wow (remember that they only get a small cut of barfines etc). As you may have noticed, food etc is cheaper there but not correspondingly so. Gas or electricity, the same. OK texting is cheaper Conservatively, let's say Americans make $100 per day.- many much much more (100 per day is about 30K a year). It seems that basic Physics () would predict the flow of money unidirectionally.
Met a fun bargirl years ago. She had a full University education and had been in a regular job making $6 per day. Why bother. Another bargirl that my asawa and I barfined (from EDSA) told my asawa (they tell her much more) that she worked hard to be bar fined every night. She had a child out of wedlock, and she was there to earn money, that's it. She had no other choice (child support from the father.- ha ha) but she embraced her fate. They don't make money from dancing.
Overseas Filipino Workers (OFW) are a major source of cash for the Philippines. I once dated a nice enough Filipino in the US. She was 100% tortured by her endless obligations to send money. And in fact she had worked in Saudi (like many Filipinos) which is no darn picnic. Correspondingly OFW are treated like quasi royalty: a special line at the airport, billboards welcoming them home, special sections in the audience on TV shows (e. G. Wowowee)
OK, this was a bit of a rant, but I wanted to give some further insight into the psychology.
Be happy that you can get gorgeous willing girls for a reasonable tip, compared to here in the US ($100 would get nasty serious slag here.- confirmed disease). If I have a good time, I happily pay. Even if I have an OK time, I pay. We are the lucky ones.- we can pay or not.
OK whatever your preference, have fun with Filipinas.
J
I used to think the girls not having abortions was cos of their religious beliefs, but on my last visit I chatted to quite a few people about it and it appears that quite often it's simply the cost and difficulty of having a safe abortion.
The govt and the church have pushed abortions to the back street where it's not exactly Western standards and still costs a bit. And to have an abortion at a hospital costs a fortune relative to local incomes.
So a lot of the girls might actually have had an abortion, but don't have the mental support or funds to be able to have it easily or safely.
I find it really sad to see so many very young girls having kids. Even a lot of the waitresses seem to have had kids when they were 16. It makes their lives even more difficult.
[QUOTE=Styles12]So why do camgirls think they deserve more money than a prosti?
Prosti. charges around $30 for a night of sex; camgirl charges $100 for 1 hour webcam session?[/QUOTE]
Because there are idiots living in their mothers' basement who never go anywhere willing to to pay.
made me laugh ur last post firewalker, thanks you liked my post big fun..sitting her at the bar while typing this..not much to add what is said allready..just only this, if you like to wank off at cybergurls, why not, but just dont fall in love, like taking her to private an spend enourmous money not to pressure her to get naked..etc....gurls laugh about that fact, believe me..I been thru this before, first cam gurl I met was 3 month pregnant from the guy she met before and to me she allways played the innocent...I didnt realize it until she went to the hospital and got abortion, later I knew the whole story, her pinoy bf left her, so she took medicine to get rid of it..at her bed her parents still keep denying the fact she had an abortion, I remember her dad told me if I gave her something wrong to eat..yeah..my titi :D
As expereinced all this first hand Im actually thinking to write a book about this...she(my first cyberlove) was so smart, when meeting another member, he was a doctor, she put on my big shirt, cause he would know she was pregnant....very smart ass..but not so smart today, having 2 bags from her pinoy lazy ass bf from angeles city..I doubt she is happy...but thats the way she wanted it and Im over it..aside from me she had also other bf....but lucky me, I didnt spend much money on her, unlike other guys did...
Be careful of single mom, her pinoy bf might just in the next room , watching the baby while playing cards with his other buddies :D
Blink out
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Because there are idiots living in their mothers' basement who never go anywhere willing to to pay.[/QUOTE]Well I've dated both and the cam girls seem like more typical western young girls/teens. The hookers seemed a little baliw (crazy).
I have been playing around with DIA in anticipation of my first trip to the Philippines. It sounds like paradise to me, although I can only spend a few days there (a month or two seems entirely warranted, but that may have to wait). I was thinking to spend my time divided between a single "non-pro", selected from DIA, and the bountiful number of P4P ladies whom one can meet all over the city, as documented in abundance on this board. If the non-pro and I get along, I plan to take her with me on my business trip to Taiwan (where the P4P situation is dismal unless one speaks Chinese).
The problem is that the girls on DIA are, according to what is written here, a bit flaky. In particular, the 18 year old girls may actually be 15, and none of them seem to have a passport. I have several beautiful girls who explicitly promise me sex in return for my friendship. But, I have no idea if they are of age or are likely to travel with me if I like them.
Thus, I ask a general question to the men with DIA experience. How does one separate the wheat from the chaff? What questions can I ask a girl to determine if she is able to travel with me and if she will actually fulfill her pledge to fuck me blind (assuming she likes me, of course)? These are basic questions, for sure. But, my dreams of taking a girl with me to Taiwan are more likely to be realized if I get some advice from the pros.
Many thanks.
[QUOTE=Forest]I have been playing around with DIA in anticipation of my first trip to the Philippines. It sounds like paradise to me, although I can only spend a few days there (a month or two seems entirely warranted, but that may have to wait). I was thinking to spend my time divided between a single "non-pro", selected from DIA, and the bountiful number of P4P ladies whom one can meet all over the city, as documented in abundance on this board. If the non-pro and I get along, I plan to take her with me on my business trip to Taiwan (where the P4P situation is dismal unless one speaks Chinese).
The problem is that the girls on DIA are, according to what is written here, a bit flaky. In particular, the 18 year old girls may actually be 15, and none of them seem to have a passport. I have several beautiful girls who explicitly promise me sex in return for my friendship. But, I have no idea if they are of age or are likely to travel with me if I like them.
Thus, I ask a general question to the men with DIA experience. How does one separate the wheat from the chaff? What questions can I ask a girl to determine if she is able to travel with me and if she will actually fulfill her pledge to fuck me blind (assuming she likes me, of course)? These are basic questions, for sure. But, my dreams of taking a girl with me to Taiwan are more likely to be realized if I get some advice from the pros.
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]If you only have a few days, I'd reccomend hitting LA Cafe. Take it from me, I went to Phils solely to meet a gal from DAI who I thought we would get along great, and except for the sex she provided me (and it wasn't even all that), was an unmitigated disaster. A few days is just not long enough to know if she's cool enough to take with you on a biz trip, but I'm sure there are exceptions.
Just be carefull with the DIA girls. Do not send any money for food, internet or any reason. 90% of them are trying to scam money from you. Of the other 10% - 90% are looking for marriage and a foreign husband. Remaining are fair game.
Those who want to give you sex maybe in the minority. They will talk nicely on the internet but may never meet you even if you send the ticket. Sometimes they want to meet along with their family.
Although I had a nice experience with two girls who came and stayed with me, it is hard to generalise. I had sent money to one girl who never came. But the money was only $100, just for the one way ticket.
None of them generally have passports and if you mention that they would want you to send money for that. Once again do not send any money before you meet them.
I doubt very much they will make good travelling companions. These girls come from very poor families and atleast the ones I had did not like to go to nice restaurents or go sightseeing. Besides unless you buy them nice clothes, they do not seem to have good ones.
What I have found in Philippines is that even the normal girls have no qualms about asking for money.
Compared to that I had a Thai GF who made a good travelling companion. We went to cambodia, vietnam and northern Thailand and Laos and Myanmar.
She never asked for money and dressed very well. We enjoyed each other's company very much. Ofcourse I gave her lots of gifts.
Dia.
10% are ladyboys which equates to 90% of all the stunners you see.
About another 20% are scammers look for suckers to give them money for their schooling/sick mother or bus fare (10x the actual cost) to come see you in another city or cell phone they have had to put in hock, lost or had been stolen.
About 50% are genuine (usually poor) girls looking to hook up with a (as they see it) rich foreigner to fulfil their fantasy of falling in love with and have their lives changed by their night in shiny armour. Some of which have more than one boy friend playing the odds that one may come through. And about 50% are nieve enough to believe that most guys really love them over the internet and will live happily ever after. Then again half the men out there believe that all the girls a good little catholic virgins who are loyal to them.
And Id say about 10% are working girls looing for a foreign boyfriend to ease their woes.
And the last 10% miscellaneous.
As for whos what and how to know. Well that’s a matter of my years of experience.
A few tips.
An average scammer/oppertunist will indicate her financial deficit /need to you with in the first 3 to 5 chats with you. A good one might play you over a longer period of time but drain you properly.
A lady boy tends to be a stunner; tends to use the word "DEAR"; often doesn’t have web cam so you can see her; sometimes doesn’t have a phone so you can’t pick the deeper rougher voice and almost never says that she wants children in her/his profile description (says I'll tell you later/ undecided).
Good girl virgins are target for arsehole mongers. They are usually nieve and are farly ripe for the picking to a westerner who sweeps them off there feet. Not a good move guys. Even as mongers we have to live with ourselves and hurting people emotionally is worse than hurting a person physically. Please respect their innocence and spread good karma.
Other tips I'm too exhausted to post now Pm me if you want more.
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Hi to all,
this is what you should do. If you on a vacation. You go and f..ck ur brains out in those p4p locations in the Philippines who allready mention here many times..
Before you fly here, you check DIA gurls. Make sure you know where they are. If they from cebu and you in manila, its no gud :D
So , collect adress etc ...
Dont send any money.Make sure u get their cp numbers. when adding their name, add info from where you know them..I live here and belive me its hard not to mix up names and numbers :D
Meet those gurls in public places first..so if you dont like them , you can disappear real quick. Meet them on times you not busy and where its hard to get some p4p pussy..morning time, afternoon etc..
Meet them on locations near your mongering place. Dont spend ur valuable time travling from A to B for nothing....
As I mentioned, I live here and Im also on DIa and my expereinces is like this, either dogs contact me..or hookers..a few seems to be office gurls, but they know I m just wana meet them to screw them..as of now I did meet ZERO..with this said you should know whats expecting you.
if they dont txt me back, they dont have interest, or they busy :D
I guess if you take that advise, you cant go wrong and have a pleasant stay :)
Blink
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hello,
last monday on my way back to Manila I met some american dude.. he was quite drunk, told me he is a lawyer from US..
We ordered some beer in the fly-the-bus and he told me his story and what he expereinced in AC...He was there to meet those camgurls from abc, acm, sac...he showed me one picture with a quite nice gurl in his hotel room..
I ask him how much he spend on those sites, he told me thousands...(dollares not pesos) His hit ratio, according to him is 50%..Means 50% show up, the rest hide..he told me if they dont show up, I know I be fooled..and I never will chat (spend money in private sessions) on them again..
Well, he has a point..Some other guys infront of us, showed us some photos of gurls he had barfined (1300p)..My neighbour friend got nosy...asking where he can meet those gurls..I told him in Ac, where you just came from ...
We arrived at Manila Swagman hotel and had some beers..When sitting there I saw one gurl I had barfined some weeks ago, gecko bar wettress, she was with somebody else and she look a bit buntis(preggy) to me..I just smiled at her and told my fren that I know her..He got big eyes..where have you met her..I told him again in AC for little money fu..in all night (1300p)
So, there he was..spending enourmous money on camgurls he never met in real, when he met Im sure they show all up with friends and wanted to go shopping or to eat...maybe he got laid also, not sure....if so he would pay much money and cause he was showing interest into some bargurls in ac me or the other guys had screwd all night for little money...maybe he will think about it next time NOT spending to much fu..ing money on those CAMSLUTS!!!!
You cant buy love, what you can buy is a DREAM..when you be in the Philippines YOU will wake up from your dream and see the real world as it is..
Just one story I wanted to add here
Blink
PS I got his email and will tell to join this here either to exchange with other camguys..or just to LEARN a bit :D[/QUOTE]
It is kinda like seeing Mr. Big Spender in Doll's House barfine a "featured dancer" for 3000 pesos, knowing I wasn't interested in barfining her the week before at a Perimeter Bar for 1000 pesos!
You should come with me sometime out to the Perimeter Bars and you can spend the 300 peso difference in barfines on my Sam Mig Lights! LOL
[QUOTE=Dacian]Dia.
Good girl virgins are target for arsehole mongers. They are usually nieve and are farly ripe for the picking to a westerner who sweeps them off there feet. Not a good move guys. Even as mongers we have to live with ourselves and hurting people emotionally is worse than hurting a person physically. Please respect their innocence and spread good karma.[/quote]Although all of the things written here are true I like this one the best although I have been approached by the cam girls, as well as the sick mother need to buy books etc. there are a lot of genuine girls that want a good guy bf, so spread the good karma and dont screw them over as then were no better then the scammers that we all complain about on here.
Wizard
So have many BM's had any good experiences using DIA to meet girls and eventually have their way with them?
[QUOTE=Jiggy]So have many BM's had any good experiences using DIA to meet girls and eventually have their way with them?[/QUOTE]
Yes many of us had, scroll down and you will see various FRs from an number of us. But beware as there are many scammers and you need Plan A, B, C, D.....as some will not show at all, some will be late very late and thus ruin future potential fun times