[QUOTE=ChrisP;2724082]The true face of the left. This is why we have the Second Amendment.[/QUOTE]It's just cheap and sleazy to say that when you've been embarrassed.
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[QUOTE=ChrisP;2724082]The true face of the left. This is why we have the Second Amendment.[/QUOTE]It's just cheap and sleazy to say that when you've been embarrassed.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723795]Biden provoked Putin and caused Ukraine invasion (had Biden said that Ukraine will not be in NATO, there would have been no war). [/QUOTE]You've been corrected on this lie dozens of times yet choose to keep repeating it dozens of times for months. Biden lacks the authority to do that. NATO has an open door policy and anyone is free to apply. That includes Russia. Putin knew his demands would be rejected, which all was a ruse anyway to give him an excuse to invade Ukraine and try to topple Kyiv. He didn't care about NATO anyway as he stated that he didn't mind Finland and Sweden joining. His design has been rebuilding empire as he stated many times in the past. He is 100% the aggressor and wasn't "provoked" by Biden or anyone else.
The love of democracy, something you have no respect for, is what provokes tyrants. Former USSR countries in his region tasted freedom, enjoyed it, and have asked for integration and protection. That's what Putin is scared of as he has nothing to offer but darkness and threats. He certainly doesn't want his own people desiring it, is why he controls the press.
As to Trump, hey, he was Putin's best buddy, undermining democracy with stolen election lies, looking the other way when Putin hacked our government agencies, grifting in Ukraine, jockeying to pull us out of NATO, destroying democratic alliances, sucking up to Vlad praising him to the press in a most pukeworthy way, etc. Naturally he didn't want to distract from all those goodies by invading Ukraine but it was coming.
Now, do as true to form, ignore all but one or two of these points. Pick one sentence out of context and go to town repeating your same lies over again. We are all used to it by now. LOL.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2724098]A Democratic douche thinks those who vote Republican are stupid, amoral, crude racists.[/QUOTE]Close:
All democrats and independents actually know this.
NATO's door remains open to any Euro country. They are free to seek membership. Giving in to a tyrant's demand to exclude one named country perpetually irrespective of any desires or future qualifications is ludicrous, betrays weakness, and most of all, violates the dictates of the treaty. No one president of a country would have the authority to change it. Not to mention that a slimeball like Putin would seize on this and bring further demands. And Ukraine offered a commitment to neutrality in early negotiations if confirmed by popular vote, but this was of course rejected. That's because Russia wants it all, Ukraine's industries, farmlands, and ports.
[URL]https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_49212.htm[/URL]
At little research goes a long ways, but few on the far right here have any desire and / or ability to do it. Thus all we get is a rehashing of Tucker Carlson's loud, Russo appeasing, treasonous mouth.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2724165]As to Trump, hey, he was Putin's best buddy, undermining democracy with stolen election lies, looking the other way when Putin hacked our government agencies, grifting in Ukraine, jockeying to pull us out of NATO, destroying democratic alliances, sucking up to Vlad praising him to the press in a most pukeworthy way, etc. Naturally he didn't want to distract from all those goodies by invading Ukraine but it was coming.
Now, do as true to form, ignore all but one or two of these points. Pick one sentence out of context and go to town repeating your same lies over again. We are all used to it by now. LOL.[/QUOTE]I like how comrade Trump told Germany that it was inappropriate for a NATO Country to be energy dependent on Russia when the whole point of NATO was to prepare for Russia aggression and not give them billions of dollars and a pipeline.
Yes a good friend of Putin tells Germany that it needs to put more than 1% of it's GDP into NATO and not into Russia pockets making them richer.
Truly an ally of Russia if I ever saw one!
[b]Trump says Germany is "controlled by Russia" at NATO meeting by CBS NEWS[/b]
[highlight] Jul 11, 2018[/highlight]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5MJEMHZZsI[/URL]
4 years later and we get this.
[b]Russia Has Germany 'By The Balls' On Natural Gas[/b]
[highlight]Jul 25, 2022[/highlight]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz2f8peN-4c[/URL]
[b]Why Germany is hooked on Russian gas[/b]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMiQeS1XywA
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2724187]Truly an ally of Russia if I ever saw one[/QUOTE]Trump decidedly is. Why did you choose to ignore all of these points? Do you not have any answers for them? I'll add one, Trump calling his top Vlad "genius" and "savvy" in his recent invasion of Ukraine.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2724165]As to Trump, hey, he was Putin's best buddy, undermining democracy with stolen election lies, looking the other way when Putin hacked our government agencies, grifting in Ukraine, jockeying to pull us out of NATO, destroying democratic alliances, sucking up to Vlad praising him to the press in a most pukeworthy way, etc. Naturally he didn't want to distract from all those goodies by invading Ukraine but it was coming.[/QUOTE]As to NATO, Trump was telling his aids from the beginning that he wanted to move us out of the alliance. Each country decides for themselves what percentage of their budgets they spend on defense. NATO has no authority to tell them otherwise. This has been steadily increasing in Canada and Europe from 2014 onward. As to your Youtubes with Trump posturing about Germany and energy, yawns. There was pushback about the crowing for more defense spending in Europe, an old campaign talking point, so Trump goes with the whataboutism and the Russian energy pipelined to Europe which is a complicated historic matter that isn't solved overnight. The wean has begun though and at a substantial rate. NATO nations have never been stronger in their commitments to one another and against tyrants like Putin. Trump tried to weaken it but failed.
If you wish to answer my points, these and the ones I made previously I'll entertain it, but this is all the time I have for feeble whataboutism. He's a traitor that incited a violent insurrection based on lies and continually praised and gave comfort to our enemy Russia. There's of course more but that's the worst of it. Next step is to get him in an orange jumpsuit.
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/28/trumps-effort-rewrite-history-his-support-nato-ukraine/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923[/URL]
[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/factchecking-trumps-nato-remarks/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2724165]Naturally he didn't want to distract from all those goodies by invading Ukraine but it was coming.[/QUOTE]Glad we agree that Trump was successful to distract Putin from invading Ukraine, which is called "Effective Diplomacy."
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2724187]Truly an ally of Russia if I ever saw one [/QUOTE]Damn straight on that again! Trump truly is, is why Russia worked so hard for his election in 2016 and 2020. They obviously are much smarter than you. One YouTube out of context, Trump pronouncing Russia "ru SHA" where the aim is to mock Germany, not chastise Russia. He worked overtime sowing divisions in our alliances and was the laughing stock of Europe.
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2723376] ROFL the bare-assed chutzpah of a democrat, the party of Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, calling someone else a con-man sex offender cheating husband. ... [/QUOTE]I think Jeffrey Epstein was more of an equal party sex offender. But it's funny (but not surprising) how you lump him with (D) Bill "a blowjob is not sex" Clinton. I saw just as many videos / photos and reports of (R) Agent Orange also being at those parties as, Bill. I wouldn't be surprised if either one the ex-Pres. Or both had something to do with his so called "suicide".
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2723376] ... As for tax evasion, you can be sure that if Trump had done that he would have been prosecuted. You don't understand the difference between tax evasion, which is illegal, and tax avoidance, which isn't and which everyone with money does. In fact, you don't understand much at all. [/QUOTE]The NY Prosecutors/DOJ, may have something to say about that. Let's hope they have the manpower (and haven't been gutted like the IRS) and have the "passion of a progressive (D)emocrat", to prosecute/jail the orange dude. I doubt he'll go to jail, but I look forward to, the orange dude getting [b] "a good drubbing"[/b], from the NY prosecutors.
And those of us not of the "cult-faithless" or bamboozled by Agent Orange's scams, ALL KNOW tax evasion when we see it. The mere fact and unwillingness to provide his tax returns at the start of his presidency/campaign (as every other president before have done), tells you all you need to know about [i]"the grifter, that came to town".[/i]
No wonder the NFL owners didn't want him anywhere their business or a NFL team.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2724098]Democratic douche is a term that I use to describe Democrats who ... A Democratic douche thinks those who vote Republican are stupid ... Calling Republicans RepuliKKKans means ...
It would be a douche move for me to compare GW Bush and Nixon to Obama and Clinton ... [/QUOTE]Whoa! Now that was quite the ramble in douche-ary, from the professor with the M.Ed, from the school of doucheness. [i]Got to ask though, is that a degree from Trump University?[/i]
Thanks for the explanation in douche-ary...I guess? Yeah. I don't really care truth be known, it's a bit off brand for my type of tomfoolery. But I'm sure other Repub kinfolks will take notes.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2724098] ... Calling Republicans RepuliKKKans means you are a Democratic douche ...[/QUOTE]No not really! Personally I think it's just [b]a really very cleaver play on words.[/b] Much like the play on words, when you call liberal type democrats, "libtards". Got to admit "libtards" is pretty good, just not as good or creative as "RepubliKKKants".
Truthfully though, (or perhaps naively) I have always viewed they're usage, as playful terms of endearment. Now if there happens to be a bit of truth in either example, well. I'm not sure what to tell ya.
When the term "RepubliKKKants" is used, no I don't really go from 0 to 100 mph, thinking all Repubs are racist or KKK members. Just like when you call Democrats "libtards", I don't automatically draw the conclusion and think, Elvis thinks all Dems are retards.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723498] ... Spidy, are things better under Biden than they were under Trump? [/QUOTE]As for whether "things are better" under Biden, well nothing has really dramatically changed for me. I just go about my life feeling better about a US President that isn't unhinged, madly ranting and twitting at the drop of hat 15-min. of every day and is actually putting in the work (and not at a golf course). Or isn't a grifter, crook or con man.
Just tough luck though, for Biden having to deal with a couple of DINOs in the Senate and a backward and regressive SCOTUS majority, determined to drag American back to the dark ages.
[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/25/kamala-harris-says-real-issue-america-women-getting-pregnant-every-day/[/URL]
Paulie97 in your vehement defense of the Nancy Pelosi's Jan 6 House Inquisition you omit the key fact in my post that the star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony was 100 percent hearsay. And wait for it, within hours of Ms. Hutchinson's allegations, the Secret Service agents actually involved came forward and said what Ms. Hutchinson testified to under oath did not happen.
Now if this spectacle was really an honest, fair minded inquiry into what actually occurred on Jan 6 and the days leading up to Jan 6, you would think the committee would have subpoenaed the Secret Service agents involved and listened to their sworn firsthand testimony. BUT NOOOOOOOOOO, the committee did not do that and did not explain why the Secret Service agents were not called. But everyone knows why they were not called.
So, we can argue the semantics over what to call this disgrace, this soviet era show trial, this inquisition, but no fair minded American can call this thing an inquiry. That is why most Americans have tuned out and are not watching this disgraceful spectacle. They know the verdict was decided before the 1st witness was called.
"Judge and jury walk out hand in hand.
Dietrich movies, close up boogies.
Kissing * in Cannes.
Grotesque music, million dollar sad.
Got no tactics, got no time on hand".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcH8C4vWvVw&t=41s[/URL]
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2724049]Every word of this is not arguable, and hopefully more and more Trump cultists will wake up out of their trance.[/QUOTE]Not hardly. RethugliKKKants have drunk so much KoolAid that they're pissing orange.
They believe every lie that is spread on FUX snooze. They believe the election was stolen. They believe that Chinese thermostats changed votes. Or was it Italian satellites? I can never remember which one that was. They believe that "2000 Mules" was the truth. They believe that the one-term, twice-impeached former guy was smart. They believe that Tucker Carlson is smart. They [B]do not[/B] believe that Cheeto Tweeto ever said that he loved the uneducated. They [B]do not[/B] believe that they are part of the uneducated even though they have proven that they are by their actions.
They have as much chance of waking up out of their trance as they have to get enough IQ points to decorate a domino.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2724098]You can call him whatever you want, and I can do the same with Bill Clinton, but Clinton was a good president and so was Trump. Carter and GW Bush were much better character wise than either Clinton or Trump but were horrible performance wise. The fact that all you can do is call him names means that he was in fact good.
You seem to want me to say you only had Trump and Biden to vote for so you voted for Biden. Well, you could have voted for a 3rd party candidate or not voted at all. I was so disgusted by the candidates in 2012 I abstained from voting. I thought Obama had reneged on his promises to clean up the banks and Wall Street after voting for him in 2008. That was a mistake though because he cleaned things up more than I thought.
Democratic douche is a term that I use to describe Democrats who turn off their brain and tow the party line. A person who voted Democrat is someone who respects the vote of someone else, and I respect them. A Democratic douche thinks those who vote Republican are stupid, amoral, crude racists. Calling Republicans RepuliKKKans means you are a Democratic douche..[/QUOTE]How about this, since you say that both Bill Clinton and Cheeto Tweeto were "good presidents".
Why don't you post actual sources (from the same non-partisan source) that back up your contention. That should be easy, right?
[QUOTE=Spidy;2724258]As for whether "things are better" under Biden, well nothing has really dramatically changed for me. I just go about my life feeling better about a US President that isn't unhinged, madly ranting and twitting at the drop of hat 15-min. of every day and is actually putting in the work (and not at a golf course). Or isn't a grifter, crook or con man.
Just tough luck though, for Biden having to deal with a couple of DINOs in the Senate and a backward and regressive SCOTUS majority, determined to drag American back to the dark ages.[/QUOTE]This is good. I applaud you that you're way better and more honest than most libtards on this forum who would in straight face lie that things are better under Burden than Trump.
You had to bring the discussion down to how it is just for you now as opposed to keeping the discussion at the broader level "is the country better under Burden than Trump", which we all know that it's way worse now.
In Trump's time, I agree we were bombarded with tweets, some pretty mean even for his supporters like me, but good thing was that things were getting done, US and international economy and peace were kept in a steady path. Some of us understand that how a man talks to me (mean tweets) is way less important than what he does for me (keep us safe from getting killed in wars or making sure we aren't getting into huge inflation or recession etc etc blah blah blah). It's the intelligence to figure out what's important for us and what we can ignore. Like I always say, Trump is no way the best possible POTUS, but compared to all other current choices we have (or had in 2020), he's probably the best. If a better candidate comes along for 2024, I would definitely vote for that better candidate, unfortunately Burden was never that candidate and never will.