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CGGB Copenhagen is not the best place for paid sex, it is Finland. Denmark is too expensive. In Hamburg they have Club Atmos, which is on the same level as world/oase/palace just with less girls. Sweden is the most politcal correct pusssy whipped nation in the world.Sweden is controlled by lesbian sex negative bitchesm, If you are looking for good sex stay out of Scandinavia and go to Germany.
[QUOTE=22acacia]Surely, I can't go wrong with the Rumanian gang so I cornered Vanessa, an attractive brunette spinner, coming out of her locker room. Unusual, because normally, the girls are more aggressive and corner me, but today, no girls were approaching anyone. She spoke passable english and took me straight to a room against my judgement. Couch action is a good indicator of a possible connection but I did not have the advantage of getting this advanced information. Having only been there for a week, Vanessa was...inexperienced would be the best word. Her lack of English did not allow me to help guide her and I was left with an unsatisfying session.[/QUOTE]I had the bad luck of a session with Vanessa on Sunday and totally agree. She was totally unexperienced and yet completely professional in offering her sex like a menu in a restaurant. Her BJ did hurt a lot and when I went for a fuck she just laid down like a brick. After 1 minute of totally unsatisfactory in-and-out I decided to give up and left, without having come. Leaving a girl without having come had not happened to me for ages. But in this case I just thought it completely pointless to come in her. Complaining was pointless too, because she probably thought she had all done by the books (what she did, in fact, unfortunately) and all the time asked me if her service was good. I didnt want to frustrate her and so I paid. Well, she has lots to learn.
Sunday was the worst day I ever experienced at FKKW. Unfortunately, after the bad experience with V. I left FKKW totally frustrated and now I have to read in this thread that just 30 or so minutes after I left Natasha appeared. And Natasha was all the reason I came to FKKW on that sunday in the first place. She has the best service I experienced in ages, her looks are 9-10 and her DFK just totally blew up my brains.
Boys, there are days you just completely want to wipe out of your memory. Sunday was one of those.
Yes, Mat that's exactly the sort of experience I have had with some of the new inexperienced girls. The saddest thing is that some of them no doubt think they have done a good job! However it does not mean the Club is no good -what it means is that it is worth checking out the more experienced girls. Remember that World has a whole host of young girls compared to say Oase - if you mentally delete most of the young girls then the choice becomes more like Oase
My rule of thumb is never go with a girl who does not come back from a room looking like she and her client have had a good time. Watch how they say goodbye at the lockers. If you want to go for a new young girl then see if she is willing to do a bit of kiss and cuddle on the couch. And even then I have made some mistakes
There are lots of good providers at World - the ones who are there more than a few weeks wil be the ones who are either good at sex (or good at selling)
Hi Shiatsu,
I also look at the things going on around paytime, i.e. does the customer look happy, what is the goodbye kiss like etc. which brings me to a "funny" incident at Oase last winter/spring:
Just had finished a session with Marina (yes, the one that gave you crap time few months ago). She was not very GFE like during the session, but IMO her body made up for the lack of GFE. Then when I was paying her, she plants this long wet DFK on me for all to see. It was more DFK than the whole session. She sure knew what she was doing.
22acacia points out that Vanessa has been there only for a week. I think she tells everyone that. She told me that when I went with her around June 15th. so she has been around for at least couple of months.
Chivaz
Well, it really is rather miserable at World at the moment. The amazing thing is that the news obviously doesn’t get around. Or there are an inordinate number of incurable optimists about. Like me.
Wednesday evening: the car park was almost completely full at 6.30 pm. Can be a good sign, can be a bad sign. Entrance, lockers, change, shower, through the magic red curtains, to be faced with a sea of ….. men. OK, the girls are all in the garden, it’s brilliant weather. Out onto the steps with drink in hand. Not a single female in sight. Must all be in the rooms, it’s logical with all these men. Just got to be patient. Through the corridors, down the stairs, scout round the rooms……... worst fears realised: …… more than half empty. Always hard to judge, but I reckon it was a ratio of 10:1.
OK, tighten the towel, back your arse up to the nearest wall, leave no flank exposed, who knows? The locals had a desperate glint to their eyes. Drink, watch, hope, drink. Wait until darkness and hope for reinforcements.
…… You have to imagine my situation, to appreciate the depression I was feeling. An unsatisfactory Tuesday in Oase, which had a very strange atmosphere, compounded by poor choices (not that the overall selection was poor, I just made mistakes), and I didn’t want a repeat for a second night with the same weird-mood women and the same breathless, stifling ambiente. Palace has its own problems, and was dessous night anyway, so I was praying that the Romanian holiday season was finished at World, the trusty providers would have returned now at beginning of September, and it would be Paradise Regained. I really needed a break. I really needed a good sympathetic woman…….
Not a bit of it. Pustekuchen, as the Germans would say. So, I had a choice: leave (as many did gradually), or bunker down and enjoy the facilities. Occasionally I glimpsed a girl. Hey, it was nice, even if she wasn’t. Patterns became clear. The good lookers were in total stress, and the locals in the know had staked out claims in advance. The girls just went from one to another, beckoned, collared, and off to the room again. If you weren’t around, struck off the list. No need to flatter, no need for small talk, and no waste-of-time couch action. If you spoke to any, you needed courage. Most hopefuls were brushed off unceremoniously. Almost all the girls were irritable in the extreme: zickig!
At 8.45 they played a song:
You’re beautiful,
You’re beautiful,
You’re beautiful to me.
I saw your face
In a crowded place
But I won’t see you again.
Someone had a blunt sense of humour. It was a disgrace not to be warned at reception. Even if ultimately I knew the score and was simply too optimistic.
But things can and do change. Fast. Even though by this time I had been in the club for 90 minutes. At one of the small standing bar tables in the middle I suddenly found myself next to Camilla, who had crept up unnoticed with her bag and towel to the next table. Move quickly, Tosc. Camilla is nice. Very nice. Tall, thin, A breasts, black curly hair, beautiful, beautiful face. Turkish from Anatalya. And she’s one for this board too. English only. When I spoke to her in German, she apologized for having none. Told her my native tongue was English, and I got a fantastic smile and an immediate invitation to a couch in the corner. I got the first couch action of the evening, I swear it, and many onlookers…… :-) :-) Well, OK, she got me from 1 to 100 km/hour in about 30 seconds flat with her kissing alone, and we had a brilliant one hour session in the room. (A German guy later agreed (“die war eine Wucht!”) and bought me a beer for the tip). Camilla is there for another month.
Other sessions, yes. But nothing to recommend. Can’t wait for the Autumn season to start.
22Acacia: you mentioned Lisa. I met her too, and I think it’s the same girl (wears $ 1.99 flipflops, not huge stacked heels). She doesn’t accept Daty or 69 because, apparently, she comes so easily and exhausts herself too quickly. Poor thing. Mind you, add on EUR 100 for anal, and she has no qualms about shouting the roof off :-)
So, did anyone try the Mallorca Party on Saturday? I followed the advice of this board and stayed away. Went to Oase instead. Also mixed results - see my report there.
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[QUOTE=Euro100]So, did anyone try the Mallorca Party on Saturday? I followed the advice of this board and stayed away.
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After hearing and reading a good deal intel about FKKW at the moment, I (we) decided to hit Palace instead. Great line-up! I am also curious to hear from anyone who took a chance on Saturday.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Was in Germany two weeks ago and decided to hit FKK World on a Friday evening. I was debating between Oases and World but in the past just found the facilities at World to give it the edge.
I got smart this time and rented a car with navigation. Although I read German and have all of the directions and have been to World several times, finding it is always a bit of an adventure. With the navigation though, it was very easy. Just let the computer guide you. The only caution is that the last 500 meters says you are off the road. I guess the road is too new.
My strategy at a FKK is to always go slow and not make any quick choices. I like to start by taking a leisurely stroll around the place to see who is there. I got there around 4:30 and was pleasantly surprised to see lots of girls and not a lot of guys. Figuring out my choices was made easier by the weather. It was a bit too cool for anyone to be hanging around outside, so all of the girls were inside and accessible.
I am a sucker for looks and youth. I saw what I considered to be the best looking thing there and moved in to talk to her. She was 23, from Romania and said she was new there. She spoke excellent English, claimed to have a university degree. I would easily have rated her as a solid 9. Soon we were joined on the couch by her equally nice friend who also spoke almost perfect English and was just as solid a 9. They claimed to be childhood friends and had told Mama they were vacationing in Spain.
After reading some of the posts here, I was a bit curious as to how such nice looking, presumably well educated girls ended up in a place like World. They claimed they came on their own free will for the money. And they added they enjoyed the sex. They seemed sincere, but who knows.
Anyway, they made the suggestion I take them both. Since this was the first shot of the day, I was a bit reluctant, but in the end I just could not resist. In hindsight I wish I had waited until later or done them seperately. Anyway they were very good. I admit it was indulgence to take them both. But they were good about not rushing me, although being the first shot of the night, it was a bit quicker than I would have liked. Hard to hold back after a long dry spell.
In the end I ended up doing two more sessions, one with another young Romanian, and another with a young Bulgarian. Both were decent and good choices.
In between sessions I managed to strike up a conversation with one of the older women there. At first she told me she was 30, but finally confessed to actually being 38. She had been watching me working the young girls and chastised me for not stick more with my own age, me being on the wrong side of 50. But she was good about it and still talked quite awhile with me even though I made it clear I was not interested in doing a session with her. On my scale she would have barely mustered a 5, but to each his own.
We got to talking about STDs and things there. She told me World does require a monthly health check, but agreed that is a thin line of defense. She was quite upset about the number of girls that do uncovered BJ's. She also claimed that too many girls there would have uncovered intercourse if asked. My experience, which she found hard to believe, is that no one at any FKK in Germany has ever offered me unprotected intercourse. Also that evening, all 4 girls I took used a condom for BJ.
My policy on BJ's is that if the girl wants to use one, I will not protest. If she starts without one, I am willing to run the risk. I do confess that I worry much less when they use one. This is a hobby not without risk and use of the condom does greatly reduce the risk.
It was funny to hear her taking the role of a professional prostitute and complaining how the newer younger girls were unprofessional by doing BBBJ's and even kissing. I am just glad the FKK clubs don't abide by the professional prostitutue rules.
I finally left around midnight. All in all a nice relaxing evening. The ratio was definitely in favor of the guys that night. As a result the girls were not rushing and took their time.
if I remember correctly, the romanian and bulgarian exodus dated August, 27th in the evening. Maybe you have been there the day before?
Have fun,
Novize
Yes, I was there on the 26th. Lots of Romanians around though.
There was one really nice black girl from Panama that I kick myself for not taking at the end.
Overall I thought the selection of women on that particular evening was very good. When I compare World to Oases, I find the biggest difference is more couch action in Oases. The main area in World is just too open, although if you go downstairs, more seems to happen down there.
I did the full deed though in the Kino with the Bulgarian. We never made it to the room. Not sure if anyone was watching, but it was a lot of fun.
You are right Novize, it was probably on the 27th. I was there on the 26th with ok selection and again on the 28th when the place was crap.
Thor: quote "Also that evening, all 4 girls I took used a condom for BJ". This is pretty unusual. In all my FKK sessions (which are getting to be quite many), I have only once had a covered bj. I never ask for it either way, it is just a standard FKK service.
Chivaz
I agree with Chivaz that getting a covered bj is pretty unusual. BBBJ is just so standard in the FKKs, that I really cannot remember ever getting a covered bbbj. My impression is that if you don't specifically ask for covered, you will get it uncovered.
As for the demise of World lately, certain info indicated that the problems in Pohlheim run more deeply than just temporary vacations of girls. We may be in for some serious droughts of talent at World for some time now...unless the management get their shit together and rescue the situation. I sure hope things turn around soon...
Now that I think about, those were the first covered BJ's I had ever received in a FKK. I think it was because all of the girls were young and starting out. And they might have been a bit better educated then most. As much as I prefer BBBJ, adding cover greatly decreases the risk of catching a nasty.
When you consider that some of these girls do as many as a dozen or maybe more guys a night, it only takes one guy with a problem to cause a chain reaction for every one else there. Luckily most of the clients at a FKK are decent guys and would not go there if they thought they had a problem, but it only takes one to screw it up.
Personally I try not to think about it too much. I know this is a hobby with risks. Hence, I don't complain when the girl uses cover for BJ. And afterwards I know I will worry less. Lets all be honest though, after a FKK session, don't we all sort of keep a bit closer watch down there to see if anything crops up.
With the departure of so many of the East European girls there is bound to be a short period while the club finds a new equilibrium
The departure of the girls in no way reflects on the club, which is doing its best to do everything as properly and legally as possible.
If all goes well what should happen is that over a short period there will be new girls coming in who will have no worries about papers etc. These types of workers tend to be the better providers, more experienced and working independently beholden to nobody. A few examples would be Betty, Viagra, Daniella, Stella, Pamela, Destiny, Miracle, Marta, Sharon, Olga, Nadia, Edith, Raquel, (and I would add Cordelia to this category if it is not improper to mention her here) - I think most of them are still there so that should keep many visitors happy. ( I have to be honest and say I have not been with most of those I mention but have heard good reports of all of them)
Whilst a very few of the departed are to be sorely missed and grieved, my view is that most of the huge number of very young Rumanian girls did not have much idea of the FKK ethos or how to be a good sex provider, so the loss of girls, while dramatic in numbers, is not necessarily a disaster. many of them had a red light attitude not a FKK one - so the stories about covered oral and laying down like a brick are just what I would expect from them.
So I would hope that the quality and quantity will both be good when I get there in three weeks
Hi Shiatsu,
You can add Natasha and Larissa (both Romanian if I remember correctly) to the list of girls that seemed to have survived the "vacation", but both are IMO very good providers.
Sadly, Vanessa also survived. I for one would not have missed her.
Damn, never got to go with Jana, hope she will resurface somewhere.
Chivaz