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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1259504]It is pronounced neither "kik" nor "gig" but "gik" and it means "partner for casual sex; fuck-buddy". In the latin alphabet it is rendered "kik" but the first sound is less harsh than our "k".[/QUOTE]This is correct. In addition, Thais use this word to describe a "special" relationship with a prostitute. Also, they use it to describe a "sugar daddy" kinda relationship where no sex is involved, but gifts are bought for the girl and or money it given.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1259479]A fucking 23000 baht phone. Guys are passing out money to hookers like they have an endless supply of it. Maybe they do, but I definitely don't.[/QUOTE]Unfortunatley, the longer you stay in LOS, the more you will see shit like this. There are way too many guys handing over way to much cash to these girls, not knowing how scandalous these chicks are. Guys send cash every month to their teerak thinking she is being a good girl, and in reality she's fucking me and you. Thai chicks will continue to cash in and naive guys will continue to get their hearts broken. The winners are the hardcore mongers who know the game and play it better than the whroes.
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Terma City!
"" favorite club (4x4) , the women now have to wear clothing and can't walk around in g strings and bikini wear anymore! BLASPHEMY! That was the final straw man!"
Yo. Windex My Brother,
4x4, Monte Carlos, Centaurus, Barbarellas those aren't clubs in Pattaya. Each one of those are are full DISTRICTS! Complete with their own mayors, sport franchises, colleges, zoning laws. LOL!
Don't trip. Plenty of g h I j k l m o p and the rest alphabet Strings in this town. And you don't have to wear that Silly-Ass Robe like your about to pick up the paper in your driveway on Sat. Morning!
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My 2nd trip
A short note about Bangkok. Met Jane in Beer Garten S-7. She is the smallest working girl I have ever met. I didn't take her, but chatted with her for a few minutes then I left. I am not fond of Bangkok. Now on to Pattaya.
Checked into Queen Vic and then decided to go down S 6 for a look. I went by Smoke & Kisses and saw Des the owner sitting there having a drink. I met him on my last trip and we stayed in the Bar along with a friend of his until 6:00 am. I talked with him only about a minute because Mook Da (something like that) grabbed me and wouldn't let go. OK I wasn't putting up much resistance. She said let's go in back where it is air conditioned. I was with her for about 20 minutes and had a very nice make out session with her. She said you a very good kisser and wanted me to take her upstairs for short time. She had my hand rubbing her pussy which was very wet. After a little of that, I told her I don't do short time and said I may come back to take you long time, but not now and then I left. Mook said she is 36 and is good looking and a very passionate kisser.
Next day, late afternoon, I headed down beach Road to see what potential was out there. I got to about Soi 8 and decided to go up to 2nd Road and get a ride back to Soi 6. I decided I would troll Beach Road again later. When I got about half way down the Soi, I heard some one say hey, hey, I know you. I looked over and it was Pam from my last trip. She said do you remember me, I said yes and went over to sit with her. She was looking hot as hell. We talked awhile and a friend of hers walked by with a customer and Pam put her arms around and yelled at her friend and said this is my boy friend. I just laughed. Pam works in Foxey Lady bar now and there are some ladyboys there also. She is a good woman. One who I would trust in any situation, but she likes me too much, so I may not bar fine her. I haven't seen Lek from my last trip, but she is another woman who I would trust. However, I spent too much time with her last time and she also got very clingy.
Next day, about 5:00, I decided to take a short nap. Well it wasn't so short. When I woke up it was close to 2:00 am. Now fully rested and nothing to do I decided to hit beach road again. I was surprised to see how many people were walking there and how many girls were out. Some were bar girls looking to get some customers after the bars closed. At that time in the morning, some of the girls I talked to wanted too much money for LT, so I kept looking. I got to Soi 8 and it looked like there were a lot of bars still open, so I wandered down and on my way Pam yells at me. She was going to get some food from one of the food carts. She told me her bar doesn't close. We went back to her bar for a drink and then I went back to Beach Road. Soi 8 has a lot of ladyboys and I was hit up by several, but just said no thanks and kept walking.
On Beach Road, I saw a girl who looked decent, so I talked with her for a few minutes and asked how much for LT. She said 1, 000 Baht. I wanted to know how long she would stay, since it was around 3:00 am. I was showing her my watch and she pointed to 8:00, then 11:00 & 12:00 and said up to you. I said 9:00 would be fine. She said her name is No and I think she said she is 36. That is the best I could understand. Back at the room, we shower and into bed. Not a real passionate kisser, but loves sex and has a nice puss. After round one, we rested a bit and then round two. Round three came about 10:00 am and we were out of there about 11:30. I would have been fine with her leaving earlier, but she needed sleep and I didn't. I asked her if she wanted to go to breakfast and she said yes. She wanted me to take her for my whole trip and I said no. She said how many days would I take her, I said I don't know. I told her I was going to get a phone and if she gave me her number, I may call. She acted like I wouldn't call her and made sure I wrote her number down. Not sure if I will call her again, but I may.
I saw something strange when No and I left the Queen Vic. We cut between the buildings to Soi 6/1 and there was a girl on her back on a curb that wasn't wide enough for her body. I don't know how she didn't roll onto the street. She had something covering part of her face and her high heel shoes were off next to her feet. She was wearing one of those stretchy type of dresses that seem to creep up easily. Well, it was up almost to her waist with no underwear and her puss was there for all to see. When I came back, she was still there, but the dress was pulled down a little. Later she was gone, but the shoes were still there. I guess nothing should amaze me in Thailand. Seen her again there several more times.
After No, I went to Tukcom and got a cheap phone. Then back to Soi 6 for a stop at a couple of bars and now in the room typing this report.
Next day I'm up early, and go for a walk down Beach Road. I get the look and smile from a girl who interests me, so I stop and talk with her (Kan). Unfortunately she doesn't speak much english and I don't speak Thai. Her friend helped with the conversation and I find out that she doesn't want to do LT. I said I don't mean now, but later and she said she couldn't. I tell her if I see her again I will stop and talk to see if her situation changes. I could tell she was really interested in me. Later I see her again and she is with a different girl. I stop and talk and find out she works in a bar off Beach Road between Soi 7 & 8. That means she is available for LT, I just have to pay BF. While we are talking, we have our hands wondering over each other and she tells me she used to work in massage shop and she would give me a good massage. I said don't worry baby, I will give you a good massage. She then kisses me and we are still rubbing our hands over each other. She said she would go in the morning with me for most of the day for LT. I said fine I will meet you tomorrow. We exchange phone numbers and I leave.
Later I wonder down Soi 3 to try to find a room that Pam told me about. She said it is decent and 800 Baht / night. I didn't find it, but was stopped by a lady outside a massage shop close to the end of the Soi near 2nd Road. I thought what the heck, I have time to kill. Her name is Mai and while massaging me she is playing with my testicles and on the flip wants to have boom boom. Now she is playing with my cock. My hands were doing some of their own roaming and there were some kisses mixed in. I told her I only do LT. I asked if she was interested in LT with me. She said I would have to pay the shop money and her or meet her after work at 11:30. I told her that I may meet her later and got her phone number. She wanted 1, 500 Baht for LT. If you are walking from Beach Road toward second Road, it is on the right side close to 2nd Road. They have nice private rooms with a real door and you can shower after. Mai came in the bathroom with me and stood in the tub while I stood next to the tub. There is a floor drain there and she, while clothed, soaped me up and rinsed me off. The shower was a nice bonus. I may go back there again whether I take her LT or not.
Met up with Kan in the morning about 9:20 as planned and went to my room. It was a slow start, but as she warmed up, she was great. Her kisses went from boring to really intense. I really enjoyed the part where she was on top horizontally not CG and pumping me hard. She was doing a lot of moaning. I was doing a little of that too. I could tell that this girl was starting to like me too much already. She left around 4:00 and I paid her 1, 500 Baht as previously agreed. I also bought her lunch, which was a nice little break in the action as we had three rounds during our time together. I like her, but I keep reminding myself that there are lots of other girls and some could be way better. Although, I think I will see her again.
Later in the evening, about midnight, I went for a stroll down Bch Road. I saw No again and she wanted to go with me. I said maybe some other time. She was unhappy with that, but I just kept walking. A little further on, I spotted Mai (not massage girl) and took her LT for 1, 000 Baht. She was the worst girl I have had so far in Thailand from two trips. No drama, but nothing interesting in the sack and not as responsive as most girls. Your experience may be different as with any of the girls I have reported on. I just know I won't do her again. I would have offered to buy her breakfast, but not after that experience. I am glad I didn't make that part of the deal. I will have to remember to not make any extra offers until after the experience proves worthy. She used to work in a bar in Soi 4, but the bar closed. She speaks decent english and has lighter skin than some of the others I have been with. Although I have not been with any black or really dark skinned girls.
After Mai left, I go to breakfast and Kan calls and wants to see me again. That 's one of the pitfalls of exchanging numbers. Although she was good, I wasn't ready to do her again so soon. I made the mistake of spending too much time with too few girls the last trip and they get clingy. Kan was already there. I told her I couldn't meet today and not the next day, so I told her that I would call when I am ready. It is difficult communicating with her due to her lack of english and my total lack of the Thai language. She has a friend help with the communication, but even that is difficult.
All of the girls I have taken so far have asked me right from the start if I have condoms. Of course I have them (over 70 of them). I take them out of the boxes a put them in quart size zip lock bags and then just grab a bag and put it by the bed when I have a girl there. Good to see these girls are looking out for their health. That makes me feel better being with them. I could tell you where I picked up the Beach Road girls, but there seems to be no pattern to where they hang out. I have seen No in two different locations and when I first met Kan, she was closer to Mike's Mall and then later, closer to Soi 6. You just have to do your own hunting. There seems to be girls available on Bch Road around the clock. I enjoy the hunt almost as much as the conquest. Just as a note: I first started mongering in foreign countries in 1990 and got laid every time and every trip I discovered more opportunities. There were no mongering web sites in those days that I knew of. I didn't even own a computer until the year 2000.
In between the girls I have reported on, I have also talked with a number of other bar girls. Nam from Good Fellows (Soi 6) is a sweet girl and a good kisser as I have had a few drinks with her on various visits there. Nok from Quickie bar (Soi 6) is another sweet girl. She is a tiny girl, but has a little gut on her. She said she is 29 years old. One morning she was drinking from a jumbo beer bottle. I played pool with a girl on Soi 7 across from Anna Jet bar. There were others from Soi Diana, Pattaya Klang & WS and more, but don't remember them all. The best kisser so far is still Mook Da from Smoke & Kisses (Soi 6).
This morning I am walking down Soi Honey from Buakhao and I notice a real good looking girl on the left side of the road and she is waving at me as I am walking toward her. I decided to go for a message with her. The only thing about her that didn't interest me is her big boobs and they are real. The rest of her looked so good I didn't care about the boobs. We get started and I aks her about extras and she said for sex it is 1, 000 baht and that includes the message. I said OK since she was a good looker. The sex was good, but I won't do her again, only due to the endless other opportunities available. While we are in the process, we hear a ladyboy with a customer near us. Only curtains separating customers. Most of the message shops I have seen have at least one ladyboy. Some customers must be asking for them. Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but didn't notice that on my last trip. I had other messages including foot messages, but no sex until this last one. Soi Honey seems to have some good lookers.
I have about two and a half weeks to go in Thailand, so I will report more later. I will also include some info about accommodations and more comments and observations.
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[QUOTE=Sangkid;1259657]So what? Been happening for years dating back to the Vietnam War and will continue after you and I have left these shores. Don't worry and focus on your thing. The free women, you brag about, and those you pay but less than the going rate.[/QUOTE]LOL. Only amateurs need to brag.
"He who truly knows has no occasion to shout.". Leonardo the Vinci
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[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1259747]LOL. Only amateurs need to brag.
"He who truly knows has no occasion to shout.". Leonardo the Vinci[/QUOTE]"Knowledge is power" Sir Francis Bacon.
The more insights the better.
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[QUOTE=Sangkid;1259657]The free women, you brag about, and those you pay but less than the going rate. No wonder the quality left in Pattaya is so poor. I say congratulations to the guys spending big bucks on the girls and you should as well. Guys spending big bucks means quality girls will return and you my friend just might pick up a few freebies with a bit of quality.[/QUOTE]What exactly is the "going rate?" When I was new in Pattaya paying girls on Beach Road 500 baht was I paying the "going rate?" Or am I actually paying the going rate now since someone in the forum mentioned that the girls would go for 300 or 400 baht and I have been paying that price? Many people come to Thailand and realize that the first price is not the final price and have no qualms with bargaining, where there are others who insist on paying the first price and adding a tip.
You can buy a BMW in the USA for $86000 or you can buy it in Thailand for $425000. Does that mean the one in Thailand of better quality? No, because it is the same fucking car but someone somewhere has figured how to get more money out of you for the same thing. There are some who are smart enough to go around a jack tax while there are others who are not as smart or who have more money than brains.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/541134-millions-lost-in-tax-revenue-over-imported-cars-thailand/
And how are you defining "quality girls" and where do you assume they all went?
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Going rate
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1259823]What exactly is the "going rate?" When I was new in Pattaya paying girls on Beach Road 500 baht was I paying the "going rate?" Or am I actually paying the going rate now since someone in the forum mentioned that the girls would go for 300 or 400 baht and I have been paying that price? Many people come to Thailand and realize that the first price is not the final price and have no qualms with bargaining, where there are others who insist on paying the first price and adding a tip.
You can buy a BMW in the USA for $86000 or you can buy it in Thailand for $425000. Does that mean the one in Thailand of better quality? No, because it is the same fucking car but someone somewhere has figured how to get more money out of you for the same thing. There are some who are smart enough to go around a jack tax while there are others who are not as smart or who have more money than brains.
[url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/541134-millions-lost-in-tax-revenue-over-imported-cars-thailand/[/url]
And how are you defining "quality girls" and where do you assume they all went?[/QUOTE]I'd assume with all the posts you have you would know all the answers to the questions your asking. 500 bht is, and always has been the going rate on Beach Road.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1259747]"He who truly knows has no occasion to shout.". Leonardo the Vinci[/QUOTE]"Knowledge is Power. Guard it well!" (Blood Raven's Battle Cry)
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[QUOTE=YG365;1258893]Nice. The last time I was in Pattaya, I didn't notice any above average girls on Beach Road. Has the talent gotten better recently?[/QUOTE]Purely guestimated figures: 95% were untouchable (<5) .4% were alright. Cute (between a 5 and 7) , the remaining 1% were atractive to fairly hot (between 7 and 8. 5). I do think my standards lowered for Pattaya and Beach road considerably. As the pics and vids of the Bangkok girls were generally much hotter (though they were mainly gogo girls).
I found the gogo girls in Pattaya to mainly be between 5 and 7. 5 (I may have just been unlucky, and in on bad days) ; so I took a lot more FLs. Way better in the bang to buck ratio. I couldn't believe the difference in looks between Baccara Soi cowboy and Baccara Walking St.
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[QUOTE=Alx 1994;1259202]Me too! I plan on being in area on 4/4 to 4/16, let me know if you are going to repeat![/QUOTE]I am up for an ISG Pattaya catch up if it is happening over easter time.
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[QUOTE=How14;1259930]I'd assume with all the posts you have you would know all the answers to the questions your asking. 500 bht is, and always has been the going rate on beach Road.[/QUOTE]RUBBISH.
Maybe in recent years, but up until around 5/6 years ago, one could always pull a Beach Road girl for 300bt, and before that 200bt was possible!
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Beach road
[QUOTE=Bumholes1; 1260491]RUBBISH.
Maybe in recent years, but up until around 5/6 years ago, one could always pull a Beach Road girl for 300bt, and before that 200bt was possible![/QUOTE]Yes but he's not talking about 5/6 years ago, he's on about now, and yes you can get some at 300bht, he asked about the going rate, and the going rate is and always has been 500bht, so who's talking rubbish?
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[QUOTE=How14;1260692]Yes but he's not talking about 5/6 years ago, he's on about now, and yes you can get some at 300bht, he asked about the going rate, and the going rate is and always has been 500bht, so who's talking rubbish?[/QUOTE]Agree and disagree.
500bt IS the current going rate, (so far as I am aware) but it most clearly has not ALWAYS been that. You introduced the past into the discussion by saying "always has been"! I am merely correcting that statement!
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[QUOTE=How14;1260692]Yes but he's not talking about 5/6 years ago, he's on about now, and yes you can get some at 300bht, he asked about the going rate, and the going rate is and always has been 500bht, so who's talking rubbish?[/QUOTE]I posed the question to the troll to point out that sure they will ask for 500, but most will accept 300 or 400. So why would I or anyone else who isn't playing 2 week millionaire pay or feel guilty about not paying the original asking price of 500 when we know damn well that they accept less? So there is in fact not a particular "going rate", but a "going range" instead. Don't get bent out of shape with me when I am able to agree with them at the bottom end of the range while you insist on paying at the top end.