[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1262246]I have some open questions, please be honest with yourself when answering them.
How do you see women on the street after a FKK visit?[/QUOTE]She's worth 50e or she's not worth 50e, but maybe 30e in the RLD.
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[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1262246]I have some open questions, please be honest with yourself when answering them.
How do you see women on the street after a FKK visit?[/QUOTE]She's worth 50e or she's not worth 50e, but maybe 30e in the RLD.
[QUOTE=Mohab; 1262499]Very simple basic question as I'm packing my bag. On a typical Tuesday night where would I find the hottest girls? Living room or samya? Had planned samya but could make a detour to living room. Please helpful direct responses which are much appreciated as I will be accessing the internet in germany from a cafe or hotel as I do not carry internet phone with me.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Asked and answered ad nauseum.
[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1262246]I have some open questions, please be honest with yourself when answering them.
Do you ever use 30mins block as a unit in your daily life? No.
Do you ever convert to how many 50€ sessions you can get when buying stuff or paying the bills? Too often. Also after spending too much with one girl, thinking it could be more sessions with different girls.
Are you getting annoyed when someone try to sell / upsell in the shops? No (made me thinking about the salesjob in rooms. They are only suggestion from the menu)
How do you see women on the street after a FKK visit? It is not so hard anymore knowing that the young and sexy is not for me, I find some more attractive in FKK.
Why don't you remember her name after sex without writing it down?[/QUOTE]Talking with too many girls and will not ask the name again when I have made my choice.
But some names I remeber for years.
Thanks a lot for your reports. Lanquage and the fact I do not remember names are the reason why I do not report.
[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1262518]I'll say Samya.
The odds at GT or Acapulco are even better. Depends on your definition of hottest girls.[/QUOTE][font=tahoma][b]Mohab[/b], I would definitely concur with [b]Nille Copenhagen[/b]'s suggestions.
I personally would have a strong preference for [b]GoldenTime[/b].
IMO just like [b]FKK Oase[/b] the lineup on any day in [b]GoldenTime[/b] is always good.
[b]CD[/b][/font]
[QUOTE=Captain Dan; 1262964][font=tahoma][b]Mohab[/b], I would definitely concur with [b]Nille Copenhagen[/b]'s suggestions.
I personally would have a strong preference for [b]GoldenTime[/b].
IMO just like [b]FKK Oase[/b] The lineup on any day in [b]GoldenTime[/b] Is always good.
[b]CD[/b][/font][/QUOTE]Mohab, might face difficulty to enter GT or once entered will feel leftout in the cold, please see the ongoing white-non-white discussion in the GT thread.
Being refused entry because of the color of your skin? Sounds like discrimination.
What about being refused entry because of your nationality?
Is it discrimination if a sexworker refuses you service for these reasons: color of your skin, having an abnormality, body odor, she didn't like the last encounter. There's been alot posted on girls being forced to prostitute themselves, the argument is that they are working of their own free will. At what point do they go from having the free will to say 'yes' or 'no' to discriminating against someone? Same question in reverse: at what point are you taking away the girls free will by forcing them to do something they don't want to do?
Is it discrimination when the 'service' is extremely personal as a sexworker provides? One normally reads about someone being discriminated against by an employer or a business. What would constitute discrimination if a girl turns you down in a club? Is it discrimination if you turn down a girl because of the color of her skin?
Is it discrimination when we don't choose sharks, fat girls, too slim girls, ugly tits girls and so on.
CD you are right, intimate services like sex / kiss are quite personal, so both parties should ideally allow to choose.
Noooo I was trapped by her spell and I was forced to have S / M sex with her.
Who cares if the girls or the club discriminates?
When I go to Japan. I can't get into many of the Soaplands there because I'm American (Gaigin). I don't blame the Japanese for this discrimination. I figure it has something to do with too many Gaijin causing problems in the Soaps. Oh well, I have to go other places.
Girls should be allowed to fuck whomever they please. If they don't like fat guys, or Americans, or non-white guys, that is their prerogative. Some people insist that the FKK's shouldn't allow girls who discriminate to work in their clubs. I disagree with this. We are not trying to solve the racial injustices of this world in this diversion known as "mongering". As an FKK owner I wouldn't turn away a woman who has a "10" body and provides wonderful GFE just because she refuses to fuck certain customers.
If a girl refuses to fuck a fat guy but she'll fuck me, I'm not going to turn her down because she discriminates. If she refuses to fuck a non-white guy but she'll fuck me. I won't turn her down because she discriminates. Mongering is not the time or place for these kinds of heavy-headed thoughts. If a girl turns me down but is willing to go with someone else. I say "more power" to the guy that gets her, he should go with her if he finds her attractive and willing.
By the way. I found this as an interesting article from a former prostitute who worked in New Orleans. She explains the "No Blacks Allowed" policy that some American hookers adhere to and the reasons why. Note. That she even claims that even black hookers will turn down blacks. It's an interesting read.
[url]http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/black-men/[/url]
[QUOTE=Arctic; 1264340]Who cares if the girls or the club discriminates?
When I go to Japan. I can't get into many of the Soaplands there because I'm American (Gaigin). I don't blame the Japanese for this discrimination. I figure it has something to do with too many Gaijin causing problems in the Soaps. Oh well, I have to go other places.
Girls should be allowed to fuck whomever they please. If they don't like fat guys, or Americans, or non-white guys, that is their prerogative. Some people insist that the FKK's shouldn't allow girls who discriminate to work in their clubs. I disagree with this. We are not trying to solve the racial injustices of this world in this diversion known as "mongering". As an FKK owner I wouldn't turn away a woman who has a "10" body and provides wonderful GFE just because she refuses to fuck certain customers.
If a girl refuses to fuck a fat guy but she'll fuck me, I'm not going to turn her down because she discriminates. If she refuses to fuck a non-white guy but she'll fuck me. I won't turn her down because she discriminates. Mongering is not the time or place for these kinds of heavy-headed thoughts. If a girl turns me down but is willing to go with someone else. I say "more power" to the guy that gets her, he should go with her if he finds her attractive and willing.
By the way. I found this as an interesting article from a former prostitute who worked in New Orleans. She explains the "No Blacks Allowed" policy that some American hookers adhere to and the reasons why. Note. That she even claims that even black hookers will turn down blacks. It's an interesting read.
[url]http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/black-men/[/url][/QUOTE]LOL I for one could careless IF a hooker that sells her body for a living want or don't want to have sex with a person base on their skin color etc. Or a club discriminate just base on a person skin color BUT I do have a problem when there are excuses made for them to have those views. I rather for them to just post a sign that says and state their views. This way a person won't have to waste their time and money $$ flying for hours and investing in hotels costs and taxi fare ONLY to find out the place he is interesting in going to won't serve him base on his skin color...beside that it will also save a person of color from having to waste their hard earned money on a bad session..
As far as your link you posted and since you are posting links dealing with black males WHY not post the link of 17 year old Trayron Martin being heard crying and screaming for help on a 911 call right before he lost his LIFE base on what? His skin color? And someone saying he LOOK like he is up to no good? When he was just walking to visit his Father and talking to his girlfriend on his cellphone? Many things on that link you posted ONLY promote and prey on the unwarranted and the fears and views that many people without merit have when it comes to people that are different then them and that NEVER walk a day in anyone else shoes other then their owns.
The funny thing is many girls I have met and have been friends with over many decades will try to shy away maybe from seeing a male that is black for business $$ (just to keep and please their other tricks and keep them happy so the money can keep on coming into them) BUT in their private life ALL they want to date and want to be around and won't charge a dime to do so are with are black males LOL
Also, since you brought up a so called former Black ex hooker (if it is one) LOL having a " No Blacks Allowed" policy? LOL that is funny because 99% of the time that isn't her policy that is her BLACK P. I. M. P. Policy LOL I am willing to bet that could be how he met her and got her turned out selling her body hell, most black P.I.M.P.S. are so afraid that another black male is going to take his girl from him that he doesn't allow her to have a session with a black male ... he isn't worry about that with any other race .. many hookers have found it to be a lot easy to prey and robbed and get more money out of a trick that is NON-black and they put up less of a fight then a black male. I am sure that wasn't in your link you posted...besides lol you have to take who wrote that link with a grain of salt lol but ( you will have many that take what was posted in that link like it came right from out of the bible like it is the truth ) lol
I spent over 10 years in the Navy and I have travel the world for business and lived in Vegas and LA and go to South Beach a lot and monger everywhere many of these so called hookers on their off duty time love to party and dance and listen to black music and hang out with black males and MOST have or had black boyfriends or even have a mixed "black baby" most of their black boyfriends don't want them to session with black males lol besides many of them could worry about not making as much money if their non-black tricks see them session with many non-whites ( I have heard this many times in the past before)...
Kid Cisco
[QUOTE=Arctic; 1264340]Who cares if the girls or the club discriminates?
When I go to Japan. I can't get into many of the Soaplands there because I'm American (Gaigin). I don't blame the Japanese for this discrimination. I figure it has something to do with too many Gaijin causing problems in the Soaps. Oh well, I have to go other places.
Girls should be allowed to fuck whomever they please. If they don't like fat guys, or Americans, or non-white guys, that is their prerogative. Some people insist that the FKK's shouldn't allow girls who discriminate to work in their clubs. I disagree with this. We are not trying to solve the racial injustices of this world in this diversion known as "mongering". As an FKK owner I wouldn't turn away a woman who has a "10" body and provides wonderful GFE just because she refuses to fuck certain customers.
If a girl refuses to fuck a fat guy but she'll fuck me, I'm not going to turn her down because she discriminates. If she refuses to fuck a non-white guy but she'll fuck me. I won't turn her down because she discriminates. Mongering is not the time or place for these kinds of heavy-headed thoughts. If a girl turns me down but is willing to go with someone else. I say "more power" to the guy that gets her, he should go with her if he finds her attractive and willing.
By the way. I found this as an interesting article from a former prostitute who worked in New Orleans. She explains the "No Blacks Allowed" policy that some American hookers adhere to and the reasons why. Note. That she even claims that even black hookers will turn down blacks. It's an interesting read.
[url]http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/black-men/[/url][/QUOTE]You know what? Now this really beats all! You made a post about moving on and letting things go and getting back to the reports about the clubs (which people had already done) , and then you go and post some BS like this here? With a picture of O. J. Simpson and Nicole Brown-Simpson? What does any of that have to do with mongering? If these "heady discussions" aren't appropriate for this forum, then why did you post this here? Oh I see. So now the message is that the "violent" men of color will "rough up" the white women in the FKKs if they are allowed in? But what about those regular white guys that the one girl told me about when I was there? The ones that like to come into Golden Time and slap the girls around when doing the deed? Does being white make that right? Or at least something to be overlooked? The overwhelming majority of white people who are subjected to violence or killed are harmed by other white people. This is absolutely outrageous.
Even though she tries to disavow it, this is nothing more than the pure prejudice of a Southern white girl shining through, and I see you didn't disagree with her either, or with a bunch of self-hating black prostitutes. And talk about flawed logic. I'm still waiting for an answer on how it is that the women of Golden Time are somehow better judges of character than the women at any other club in Germany are. Are they born with that skill? Is it taught to them during the screening process? Or, do they magically acquire that skill once selected to work in that particular club? Or, maybe they picked it up from the blog entry you posted?
The bottom line is that some people don't get it and they never, ever will. And why? Because they don't want to. It's as simple as that. They don't give a rip since they know that the offending behavior will never happen to them. Let's keep it real. Two-thirds of the girls you approach in the club aren't going to turn you down just because you're white. And if they did, you sure as hell wouldn't like it one iota, and would call it a hostile environment too. You're a human being subject to the same human emotions as anybody else. People should stop trying to invalidate the real-world experiences of others and try walking a few miles in somebody else's shoes for a change. Man, man, man. People are a trip!
[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1264358]BUT I do have a problem when there are excuses made for them to have those views. I rather for them to just post a sign that says and state their views. This way a person won't have to waste their time and money $$ flying for hours and investing in hotels costs and taxi fare ONLY to find out the place he is interesting in going to won't serve him base on his skin color.
Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]But we know it will never happen. I don't know the law in Germany, but as somebody else here suggested, it very well may be illegal to deny entry based on race, ethnicity, etc. Given the legacy of the Third Reich that modern-day Germany must live under and would like to leave behind, I wouldn't be surprised if there is something in the law that would be applicable regarding this. But even more importantly than that, the reason why it won't happen is that racists are cowards. To openly post such a policy would draw the ire and scorn of people from far and wide, starting in Germany itself. The individuals behind such a policy would then have to look at themselves in the mirror with shame. And admit to who and what they are. So, instead what we get are the games (we're full) and the denials. And then when the denials don't work anymore, here come all of the justifications, such as in the offensive blog that was posted.
I guess different people have different views. Which they are entitled to. As I am to my views. Well I've expressed them and intend to keep mongering as a hobby, NOT a political statement.
Hi I'm posting from cologne. In response to your question how do I see women outside of the fkk arena<< I see them as holographic anti matter residue from the remains of a distant supernova in its latter stages of maturity! LOL I hope that answers it.
[QUOTE=The Cane;1264380]But we know it will never happen. I don't know the law in Germany, but as somebody else here suggested, it very well may be illegal to deny entry based on race, ethnicity, etc. Given the legacy of the Third Reich that modern-day Germany must live under and would like to leave behind, I wouldn't be surprised if there is something in the law that would be applicable regarding this.[/QUOTE]Can we discuss this topic without referring to the Third Reich? War is over, it's 2012 and not 1945. No one should forget what happened in these terrible times, but it has NOTHING to do with a discussion around discrimination.
In Germany (as in most other countries) there's laws around discrimination. It's the AGG (Allgemeines Gleichbehandlungsgesetz / General Act on Equal Treatment) :
[url]http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/agg/BJNR189710006.html[/url]
[quote]Ziel des Gesetzes ist, Benachteiligungen aus Gründen der Rasse oder wegen der ethnischen Herkunft, des Geschlechts, der Religion oder Weltanschauung, einer Behinderung, des Alters oder der sexuellen Identität zu verhindern oder zu beseitigen.[/quote]English:
[quote]The purpose of this Act is to prevent or to stop discrimination on the grounds of race or ethnic origin, gender, religion.
Or belief, disability, age or sexual orientation.[/QUOTE]So a club (restaurant, hote, discotheque, bar) will never tell you why you are being denied entry. They will just use their "Hausrecht" (householder's rights) and not let you in. It's their right as it is their property. Period. I have seen Dutch white caucasian guys turned away at PHG, they looked decent and where not drunk. Happens. It's the club's decision. If you feel discriminated. Don't go there.
[url]http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hausrecht[/url]
HB
[QUOTE=The Cane;1264380]But we know it will never happen. I don't know the law in Germany, but as somebody else here suggested, it very well may be illegal to deny entry based on race, ethnicity, etc. Given the legacy of the Third Reich that modern-day Germany must live under and would like to leave behind, I wouldn't be surprised if there is something in the law that would be applicable regarding this. But even more importantly than that, the reason why it won't happen is that racists are cowards. To openly post such a policy would draw the ire and scorn of people from far and wide, starting in Germany itself. The individuals behind such a policy would then have to look at themselves in the mirror with shame. And admit to who and what they are. So, instead what we get are the games (we're full) and the denials. And then when the denials don't work anymore, here come all of the justifications, such as in the offensive blog that was posted.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=HB]Can we discuss this topic without referring to the Third Reich? War is over, it's 2012 and not 1945. No one should forget what happened in these terrible times, but it has NOTHING to do with a discussion around discrimination.[/QUOTE]You know, as a foreigner with German residency, a student of history, and a human being, I'm as much for holding the people of my resident country to a high (even higher) moral standard than most other peoples. AND, I also believe that by and large, German people get pretty doggone high marks in this regard.
Taking all of that into consideration, it is a bit infuriating to read complaints from a bunch of *dogs about being mistreated in D'land's sex clubs and using this to spew self-righteous indignation about Teutonic morals having been slow to advance since the fourties.
Mr. Cane, I am truly sorry that you may have been slighted at a club where, for what it's worth, the last time I was there, had mostly non German personnel working the place, and where that VAST majority of WGs were also non-German. But my friend, I also find it in rather poor taste to pull the Third Reich card in this instance. If you have a legitimate beef with Germany or German actions in the world today and wish to pull that card, then I'm happy to listen. But when you walk the moral tightrope that we ALL walk in these places or when we engage in this "hobby", then it takes a good deal of chutzpah to cry foul in the manner that you have. Plus it takes away from genuine discussions about actual incidents of discrimination. Do you honestly think these girls haven't been victims of sexism, raciscm, discrimination, abuse, etc. Etc? Read some of the reports here about Romanian girls being sharks and cheats.
How can we REALLY be so offended if a girl in a club decides that she doesn't want to give us a hummer because of the way we look, how we smell, how tall or short we are, the tone of our skin, how big our cocks are, how fat or thin we are etc. Ladies often make decision in real life as to whom they will sleep with based on these same standards. I guess by the standards and morals of some here, these "working girls" shouldn't have the luxury of deciding who, how and how much. Curious how you would feel, Mr. Cane if the roles were reversed.
Peace and love,
Dedalus, who tend to be more critical of the stubbornness of the folks at the various German "Aemter" that he has to deal with these days.