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What is the protocol for reporting BBBJ in FKK forums? I haven't been on this board in awhile but going to post a trip report soon. I assume I can talk about it in general terms here but should be more vague in the club forums as to not attract undue attention to these clubs?
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[QUOTE=Rog123;2204934]What is the protocol for reporting BBBJ in FKK forums? I haven't been on this board in awhile but going to post a trip report soon. I assume I can talk about it in general terms here but should be more vague in the club forums as to not attract undue attention to these clubs?[/QUOTE]Protocol is BBBJ, which stand for bang bang blow job LOL.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2204866]The "legal" prostitutes have significant health checks and are in some counties (based on my understanding) not allowed to leave the places during their work stay unless they go through another set of medical exams. [/QUOTE]Just for Germany: There are no mandatory health checks for STD and girls are allowed to leave the work place, go to any other brothel etc.
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[QUOTE=Rog123;2204934]What is the protocol for reporting BBBJ in FKK forums? I haven't been on this board in awhile but going to post a trip report soon. I assume I can talk about it in general terms here but should be more vague in the club forums as to not attract undue attention to these clubs?[/QUOTE]The Admin view is that members can report what they like (apart from paedophilia and trans sex).
Different members here have different views on reporting BBBJ. The debate has been heated. German forums almost all ban mention of BBBJ as internet reporting has in the past led to girls being thrown out of clubs.
I personally do not report on any illegal activity I know of. The clubs' are trying really hard to be SEEN to be doing their best to make sure no illegal activities take place on their premises as they do not want to be seen as "bad" places which need extra attention of tax, planning, licensing, and immigration authorities.I don't want to risk giving even the tiniest ammunition to those who want to restrict FKKs
Other members feel that it is a matter of free speech and that reports on this forum have no impact in the real world. They also argue that not reporting will lead to the service of bbbj becoming unavailable
I think both groups agree that reports on this forum are 100% not leading to any convictions if any man receiving BBBJ.
So, up to you in the end.
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[QUOTE=Rog123;2204934]What is the protocol for reporting BBBJ in FKK forums? I haven't been on this board in awhile but going to post a trip report soon. I assume I can talk about it in general terms here but should be more vague in the club forums as to not attract undue attention to these clubs?[/QUOTE]Common approach on many international forums is to report BBBJ simply as BJ in positive manner and drop the BB prefix alltogether. Any law-abiding BJ is reported as CBJ. For example, "Her BJ skills are amazing" vs. "Unfortunately, only CBJ in E50 room with this girl. Everything else is extra".
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[QUOTE=Rog123;2204934]What is the protocol for reporting BBBJ in FKK forums? I haven't been on this board in awhile but going to post a trip report soon. I assume I can talk about it in general terms here but should be more vague in the club forums as to not attract undue attention to these clubs?[/QUOTE]To add to Optimist's considered post below, for those posters who do share information about BBBJ, I would add that most posters withhold specifics in this regard when mentioning specific girls by name.
While the forum rules do not explicitly prohibit posting publicly information that might cause problems with management for a particular girl, why increase the likelihood of bringing problems down on a girl who, in the end, was nice to you? I certainly wouldn't want a girl to think, "Man, I gave this guy superior service, and look what happened to me. Now, I've got management on my case due to people reporting publicly that I'm contributing to illegal behavior. " (I understand that this will depend on club). Regardless of whether a girl would be hassled by her management for such activities, do we really want to increase public reporting of illegal activities which could increase likelihood of pressure for enforcement actions against a club?
In any case, the more refined posters of the forum have found ways to creatively communicate regarding this issue without being so explicit.
In my case, I simply report BJ (without any preceding initials, one way or the other) and my accompanying satisfaction level. Most forum readers are astute enough to draw the appropriate conclusions. Just my personal preference.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2205078]To add to Optimist's considered post below, for those posters who do share information about BBBJ, I would add that most posters withhold specifics in this regard when mentioning specific girls by name.
While the forum rules do not explicitly prohibit posting publicly information that might cause problems with management for a particular girl, why increase the likelihood of bringing problems down on a girl who, in the end, was nice to you? I certainly wouldn't want a girl to think, "Man, I gave this guy superior service, and look what happened to me. Now, I've got management on my case due to people reporting publicly that I'm contributing to illegal behavior. " (I understand that this will depend on club). Regardless of whether a girl would be hassled by her management for such activities, do we really want to increase public reporting of illegal activities which could increase likelihood of pressure for enforcement actions against a club?
In any case, the more refined posters of the forum have found ways to creatively communicate regarding this issue without being so explicit.
In my case, I simply report BJ (without any preceding initials, one way or the other) and my accompanying satisfaction level. Most forum readers are astute enough to draw the appropriate conclusions. Just my personal preference.[/QUOTE]I would like to add, regardless of what a lady does for one customer, it is always subjective, and MMV. I know many ladies who vary service based on looks, smell, attitude, etc. In my posts I frequently state, this lady does / does not perform all extras when referring to illegal services and anal. I hate to comment on DFK unless they don't for me because this is the single service with the most variance from my experiences.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2205023]Just for Germany: There are no mandatory health checks for STD and girls are allowed to leave the work place, go to any other brothel etc.[/QUOTE]Good point. When I said that is was in the context of Nevada.
Back a long time ago when they had younger ladies, the legal places in Nevada filled up during the summers and on longer college breaks, since the medical tests made working there a significant time commitment. Not sure if it is still like that.
In my opinion, that is really a bullshit way for the government to make a lady live her life to work in the industry, especially given the virtually zero chance of an STD transmission with condom use.
Most ladies who go to college would obviously much rather take a few escort appointments a week while they live in their own place.
This is one of the many reasons why I think that not only would the US government over-regulate any "legal" brothel, but I simply don't think the brothel lifestyle would appeal to most current US sex workers after having done this via email and cellphone scheduling for so long.
I took Phallus comments to be related to the potential legalization of this activity through allowing brothels to exist. So SmokeLight, sorry if I misunderstood, but I was pretty sure that was his example. Personally, I think the US government is about as likely to allow foreign ladies to enter the US to work in the sex industry for three month stretches after a hypothetical legalization of prostitution as the likelihood that this activity becomes unnecessary because all of the college girls in the US read an essay in feminist studies class about how men from 18-88 really need sex and those college girls decide to fuck all of the guys they know between ages 18-88. Neither is going to happen in my opinion.
To me the trend worldwide, with the exception of Germany, is toward more decriminalization (although the theoretical BBBJ ban isn't exactly a positive development). But technology allows more information sharing and communication between a like-minded prostitute and John, so to me that is the future in the US instead of trying German-style brothels. But granted, Fosta / Sesta dealt a setback, hopefully temporary, to free and open communication.
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Thanks guys
Thanks guys I did write my reports but I was very vague and did not mention any acts in codes. I last visited FKKs last summer right after the new law and I am happy to say things are back to normal I did not have one issue getting what I wanted even in 30 minute sessions. Also one was right out in the open in the club. I am a BJ aficionado and sometimes I prefer this more than sex and although I don't think the FKKs are perfect, one thing I know is that almost every single girl I have sessioned with gives an expert BJ and that is a big draw for me. Out of about 10 girls I spent time with I would say the lowest level BJ I got was 7 out of 10 so that is pretty fucking great. A shame to ruin that with a condom which basically makes me lose 90 percent interest in even getting a BJ at all.
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To me the trend worldwide, with the exception of Germany, is toward more decriminalization (although the theoretical BBBJ ban isn't exactly a positive development.[/QUOTE]I don't see such a trend, at least not as far as men are concerned. I see all kinds of "nordic models" gaining ground everywhere. Engaging a stranger female for sex in exchange for some money is becoming the most consistently repressed activity the world over after drugs. Sad.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2205267]I don't see such a trend, at least not as far as men are concerned. I see all kinds of "nordic models" gaining ground everywhere. Engaging a stranger female for sex in exchange for some money is becoming the most consistently repressed activity the world over after drugs. Sad.[/QUOTE]Whoops, sorry I meant criminalization.
Or at least half criminalization with the Nordic Model in Canada and Ireland.
Sorry. Made the sentence nonsensical.
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[QUOTE=Chongmal;2205138]I would like to add, regardless of what a lady does for one customer, it is always subjective, and MMV. I know many ladies who vary service based on looks, smell, attitude, etc. In my posts I frequently state, this lady does / does not perform all extras when referring to illegal services and anal. I hate to comment on DFK unless they don't for me because this is the single service with the most variance from my experiences.[/QUOTE]I think readers know, or should know, that it is always YMMV. As such, any member writing a report should not have to fudge or hide aspects of his session because the FKK girl might not provide the same quality service to all mongers. In my view, members should write reports honestly and in compliance with forum rules and leave it there. That's what I try to do.
That said, no one else has any right to tell any member what or how to write. If a member doesn't like what or how someone else wrote a report, tough luck — he should write his own report if it bothers him so much. One can always debate what someone else wrote, but no one has any right to tell someone else "write a different way", or "stop writing in this manner".
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2205277]I think readers know, or should know, that it is always YMMV. As such, any member writing a report should not have to fudge or hide aspects of his session because the FKK girl might not provide the same quality service to all mongers. In my view, members should write reports honestly and in compliance with forum rules and leave it there. That's what I try to do.
That said, no one else has any right to tell any member what or how to write. If a member doesn't like what or how someone else wrote a report, tough luck he should write his own report if it bothers him so much. One can always debate what someone else wrote, but no one has any right to tell someone else "write a different way", or "stop writing in this manner".[/QUOTE]Well this is the problem of this forum, they like to go hysteric on many issues.
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I might be naive, but I don't see any other country adapting the Nordic model given the growing backlash and awareness of this law plus lack of political apathy as there are more important issues out there.
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I forget to mention that NGO groups like Amnesty and even politicians support legalizing prostitution.