Maps of Itaewon courtesy of korea.army.mil off-limit establishments maps.
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Maps of Itaewon courtesy of korea.army.mil off-limit establishments maps.
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New to the forum. I'm a Korean-Canadian guy working in Korea and I recently checked out Yongsan. Had no problems getting an A row chick as obviously I look the part. Had the hottest girl I have ever seen. 100 000won for BBBJ, BL, and covered FS. Not a GFE as most of the hot ones aren't but I didn't care... so hot. If anyone wants to get together just PM me, I can speak some Korean so maybe I can get you in.
Fat Shaft,
You are a Monger man! Trying to get some action at the airport right at arrival. Sorry but no action at Incheon Airport or any airport. Take the next taxi to Miari or some place.
Sam Katz
Fat Shaft,
There is nothing I know of remotely close to Inchon Airport. With 6 hours, you'd be cutting it close, but your best bet would be to take a limousine bus into the city to the Capitol Hotel (HJ only) or Hamilton Hotel (FS but CBJ) Sports Massages, about $8 each way for the bus and W180,000 to 200,000 for the massage. The buses only stop 2 or 3 times on the way from the airport and will drop you off at the hotels. They run about every 20 minutes. Just my two cents.
Red
For the benefit of those who have not yet had the pleasure of visiting one of Seoul's RLDs, I have started to post a series of photos in the Photo Gallery section. Part of this is also to clarify what kind of outfits girls in the various RLDs wear and what they usually look like. (This will illustrate one of the differences between 588 and Miari, for instance.)
If anyone has any comments or questions about these photos, please feel free to private message me. Enjoy.
How is the sports massage place downstairs at the Hamilton?
Haven't tried it yet but am pretty curious.
RW_75
This one is what you think it is.
Quite good and very clean.
I had 4 experiences there, 3 of them with young girls in their early 20s and one with an older lady. All with thorough wash, little massage BBJ and once FS.
Damage is 200,000 if I remember well.
They also told me that they can send the girl to your room if you stay at Hamilton. I did not. I don't know about sending to other hotels.
Enjoy
Wolf
This place is great.
Another member recently private messaged me the following question. For the benefit of everyone in the group, I repost his question and my response to the forum. (I have obtained the other user's permission to repost his question.) Also, if anyone has any additional comments or insight into this matter, feel free to chime in.
Question:
I've read your report about the three zones, but I've seen also the photos with "not allowed to foreigners": since I'm European and I'm here in Seoul, I'd like to know if all the three RLD are really forbidden or not. Whats' the real situation? what can you suggest to me for a hot chicken?
My response:
From my understanding of the situation, Miari is the worst of the three RLDs with regards to foreigners. They have many signs and banners expliciting saying "no foreigners allowed." With 588 and Yongsan, I've never personally seen any signs or banners in that regards. Not being a foreigner myself, it's hard for me to tell what the "real situation" is...from other posts on the forum, I gather that it's possible but difficult - your best bet is to go during non-peak hours. Also, you might be limited to what's commonly called a "B-row" girl. (The girls on the main alleys are usually more attractive than those on side alleys, but have the reputation of being less willing to serve a non-Korean.)
How is the service at these RLD's? Are these girls friendly, nice, gfe, etc or unfriendly, impersonal, rude, with no emotional attachment whatsoever. I know our expieriences ymmv, but does other factors like appearance,hygeine,etc play into the kind of service we might be getting? or is it all about the money, the more you pay them, the better service you get.
In response to Kimchi Man's qustion from 01/12/04:
It varies. Technically speaking, the service itself is pretty good. Most of the time, it is better than anything one might get from a provider in the US. To be more specific, girls in the RLDs all seem to have been trained in how to tease with their tongue and lips all over one's body in leading up to a BBBJ. Their skills in oral are also quite good. Also, since these girls are usually quite young (early 20s), the FS itself is nice and tight. These things seem to be true even when the girl is a little impersonal or non-GFE. I have definitely had experiences which I would describe as GFE in the RLDs, however. In my experience, I would guess the ratio of GFE to non-GFE is about 50-50. I think a lot of it is about chemistry between the provider and hobbyist.
In speaking to the girls, I've found that most of them are in the business for the same reason - they've accumulated large amounts of credit card debt or gambling debt which they are unable to pay back any other way. It's not the greatest lifestyle, so I don't know if I would say that all of them like their jobs. However, some of them truly do seem to enjoy the sex and get into it. These are the ones which are GFEs.
As far as appearance/hygiene, I assume you're asking about the customer's appearance or hygiene, not the provider's. Hmm...hard for me to say, since I have no one to compare to except for myself. Without trying to sound overly conceited, I'm a young, fairly good-looking, relatively fit guy - I am pretty sure that I get somewhat better service than others based on this. At the very least, I can't imagine that I'm getting any worse service than anyone else. My guess would be that having good appearance or hygiene certainly can't hurt your changes of getting better service. In much the same way, I can't imagine that having a less-than-average appearance or hygiene would help those chances, either.
Having said that - I'd be a fool to say that the money doesn't play a significant role. In this business, money always seems to be the bottom line. Each girl probably has their own limits and internal pay schedule for what they will put up with and for how much.
I'm not sure if this fully answers your question. Let me know if you need further clarification on this issue.
Kimchi Man,
Yes everything has to do with it, in most cases if your young and Korean and clean looking ofcourse they will feel more compfortable with you, but if your an old man that smells you won't get the best experience. GFE is rare in RLDs but I have gotten it before. Good luck.
Sam Katz
Miari was not always "anti-foreigner." Until only a couple of months ago, Miari was actually "the haven" for foreigners. Mamasans grab you left and right. Aside from the hill, Miari was the place to go.
588 has always been the most "anti-foreigner," followed by Yongsan, and then Miari. Now, 588 and Miari are "anti-foreigner," while Yongsan is now the place to go (don't go at night). These days, the service off the cross alleys has been really good for some reason.
Kimchi Man:
Hygiene obviously does matter. Appearance and cleanliness are important, but a 'repeat customer' is best. Plus, how nicely you treat them matters as well. They usually give better service if you don't go too rough with them. I was told that some Korean men get really rowdy with the women, trying to perform as if they were making a porn movie. The girls get hurt. Treat them like a lady rather than a piece of meat, and they'll usually be good to you.
Hey Kimchi man,
Again, I'm not a master of these RLDs and this is based on my limited personal experiences.
Really YMMV, but as you've said, if you are dressed well, clean looking and polite, there is no reason for these girls to hate you.
Look at it the other way around, would you rather go for a rude, not too well dressed, messy looking girl or a well groomed, forever smiling chick? Of course, this doesn't guarantee that you'l be lavished with great service but the girl might be more open to you and be comfortable with you if you treat her with respect.
Yes, I've had my fair share of bitchy, rude ladies who turned out to be a disaster, and this need not apply only to the RLDs. I think it's pretty much the same in every establishment and all over the world. I know these girls are WLs and they are in it for the money, but they have feelings as well and they would prefer to meet a customer who would be nice and kind and treat them like a decent human.
To some girls, it's all about the money I guess, more so than not but to be honest, even money isn't everything to them. Who knows, if some guy is filthy rich but he is bloody disgusting looking with the worst ever manners, I think these girls will rather accept less money for some guy who would treat her with respect.
I've managed to meet two girls from 588 outside of their work and to my surprise, they actually paid for some of the dinners and beers we've had.
Just my two cents and they might not carry much value but this is pretty much how it has been for me. But of course, these girls have never mounted to more than a business relationship, they know and I know that, this is how far it will go and none of us are in this for some emotional relationship. RLDs should be the last place to be searching for a GF or anything like it.