Notes from an old expatriate
just a brief and single post from an old asia hand regarding trends, ongoings and a warning.
i'll not reply nor engage other isg folks as a 30+ year resident vetran of the night scene in asia and especially thailand i've nothing to prove. a few credentials. i've been very lucky as my vantage point of being a very highly paid european executive and entreuprener has allowed me to experience asia's nightlife without regard to financial concerns. i've married several times into both high and lo so as it's called here on isg and am fluent in several asia languages. i've lived in the pricey penthouses as well as "thai style" in thai neighborhoods. indeed most of my experience comes from living amongst the working girls not from the gilded/shielded elite housing. having kept a diary, i stopped counting "encounters" after several thousand. and sorry i can never share pictures.
the good.
thailand and other parts of asia still offer a counter balance to the unchecked feministic power in the west. many men beaten down by the west's preferential treatment of women can still come here and get a new perspective on relationships the old asian way. what so many never understand (or forget) is asia is still all about "face". a facet of which means most of what you see hear and enjoy is for fun, enjoyment, but mostly money.
as an old fart, well into my fifties, fat and bald, i can still walk into any bar and walk out with the best on offer much to the chagrin of the young turks. i continue to have poor and even middle class thai's offer me their daughter for marriage. in their eyes a well respected wealthy foreigner is much prefered to her running off with the local motorcycle taxi casanova. sorry i will not share how.
nana, patpong, soi cowboy and their sprawl continue to evolve and segment as they mature. nana is going japanese and transexual as prices have sky rocketed (drinks 4-5x in the last 6-7 years) and the number of katoeys achieves parity with the "sow's" or girls. patpong is fighting back with lower bar fines, drinks prices but continues to lose market share. soi cowboy, the longtime favorite of the expat community seems to still offer the best value of lots of skin and cheap drinks. the economics of the bars will continue to drive the girls onto the streets and free-lance arenas.
pattaya is always recommended for newbies as but bangkok's shear numbers of girls can't be matched anywhere.
the bad.
the poor here are still poor and in for a bleak future. so cut them some slack. china's cheap labour will continue to close factories around the globe, especially here in south east asia. most of these girls live from hand to mouth and the good ones usually support their kids, spouses and parents. and yes most (80-90%) have thai husbands, many of whom work hard for 2-300 baht per day.
if you are an oldster like me, many of your favorites are no longer around. many are dead from aids. more are sick and not getting treatment. and here's the warning i promised:
many working girls here are hiv positive. indeed in one of the thai apartments, 80% of the residents are working girls and at least half are hiv positive. i know because i've read their "visa denial letters" to them or via the local thai grapevine.
kidding yourself that it doesn't exist is the same delusional thought category that a twenty year old hard body really does love a 50 year old fart. do not be "reassured" by claims that monthly checks via the "establisments" is a defense. it is not. i'm hiv positive, for 8 years now, and know (thanks to the diary) it had to have come from either a nana rainbow dancer or an annies massage girl. i do not say this to diss either, indeed many girls on soi 33, and everwhere else have it too. and yes i still patronize rainbow bars and even annies (although my last visit was such crap for the money i'll probably not return. sorry aey). i have always worn a condom and will leave the possible explanantions to the medical folks on isg.
the ugly.
if you are a jabba-the-hut or buff turk type, take a shower!
the number one complaint from the girls is falang smell bad, to which i can only agree.
dress accordingly!
you do not see thai men running around in short pants and singlets for a reason---that's what coolies wear.
the most abhorrent are the pricks who cheat the girls.
if you are one of them beware you will get yours someday (tahm dee dai dee, tahm cheau, dai cheau). a most recent example was an asian from an english speaking country who picked up one of my favorites from the beer garten promising 1000 baht. this girl is very honest and works hard to please a customer. well, the bananna (thai name for folks that are yellow on the outside and white on the inside) only paid her 600 baht after the deed, saying he was short of funds only to be seen cavorting about the other bars in the sukhumvit area. you may think you were clever and saved yourself 400 baht but you are beneath the dirt on a thai's shoes as they say.
most falang will [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] away 400 baht ( $12usd) without thinking twice but to this thai girl, and many like her hard working husband it takes him 3 days to earn that amount! as they say there is a special room in hell waiting for you. and by the way, the girls like to take our pictures too---so they can tell their friends which dickhead cheated them (or which is a great customer)!
whether or not isg will post such a controversy is yet to be seen. personally, i would post the bastard's face at the entrance to the bg. and before any start claiming i'm a "capt-save-a-hoe"" that is hardly the case. i pay similar rates to what's typically posted here (1k st) and flatly refuse to pay more for play, even to the rainbow superstars. and yes i eventually get them too as a, very longtime customer, a good reputation always pays off, especially now during rainy season when the bars are at the seasonal low.
in closing.
1. treat the girls with respect.
2. do not patronize the ripoff's, learn to turn a blind eye to the touts, even aggressive beggar brigades (half of which own cars and have mobile phones).
3. for god's sakes learn to differentiate between a women and a katoey
4. always wear a condom, and forget about giving oral (too risky)
5. pay a fair price
have fun!
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