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Listen before talking.
i also want to second this. i like mongering, but i don't want to die for it. some std infections are nasty and eventually fatal. but i guess some guys can't be rescued, the really bad thing about it is they make life for the rest of us so much more dangerous. because you can't always be 110% sure to avoid risk. i guess what i'm saying is, be sensible and stop spreading disease!
another matter makes no sense to me: going to disco in a foreign country where you don't speak the language to find prostitutes. you know, p4p. i know they are there. but it is more sensible to go to brothels. or search mamba "looking for sex". i think i am not exposing any top secret when i point out the fkk clubs in germany are practical in every way. you don't even have to make eye-contact there to be dead-sure that the girl will come and fuck if you as her. but going to disco with this frame of mind will not help you.
in the kyivian disco i want to enjoy the scenery, and dream about being some decades younger in age. i want to scan and search for likeable girls, talk and have fun and look for it if some are amiable and nice and soft speaking. i like to go through the motions, and eventually have gfe, if i'm lucky. which i can repeat, and possibly even, with confidence that there is no, correction: low risk of std. of course i don't score model-like teenagers (unless they are p4p girls, which i sometimes do) , only nice, fit and friendly women (remembering, many women in the discos hate sex-tourists) who love sex. but i cannot be sure about my success every night. twenty-something, thirty-something russian speaking hunks in nice outfit might be, but i'm only nice and generous.
also, searching mamba for prostitutes makes little sense. why would they put up a real photo there? so their family and friends can see their real job (or extra-job)? no, mamba is a dating site for real people searching a real partner. so, when a girl wants a vip from me, it is because she needs it in order to be able to filter out all the out-dated sex tourists, who are looking for sex only / mainly, when all they seek for is one solid fellow, around her age, to start a family with. so, if we start throwing around indecent offers about sex for money, they can complain, and if they despise it, they will do it and have our profile blocked. so don't destroy mamba and defile it with your brain-disease that this is a p4p agency. there are friendly escort sites to be googled and contacted, which don't mind if you are young or old, funny or rude, russian speaking or not, metro or mod or multikulti. there are sex-workers and agencies on mamba, but their photos and profiles are mostly fake (speaking from my experience only). so, complaining about this indicates your sex-navigator needs calibrating for kievskaya devouschka finding (forgive my bad spelling!).
vodkabar was always nice in my opinion. young people, friendly staff (but not all english-speaking). in summer i could negotiate table downstairs to 100$, but it was also on a weekda, so they probably were glad to have me. but instead if impressing the right people there, all i got was an offer for paid sex. i later wished i had accepted, cause it was my last night!
i still don't get it how someone can define cof as a physical pleasure, when this is without a definitive physical contact. you can repeat pleasure as long as you want, this psychological to me. which does not mean it is less pleasant. especially if the girl is off-guard! same applies to cim, in my humble opinion. but everybody is free to repeat the opposite (still nonsense to me).
i really don't know why i am writing this rant, for you who don't read the forum anyway. i guess it's because kf's photos made me miss kiev.
for a speedy return for us all, roll buzz.
[quote=yellowpaul; 1501344]totally agree with you. the only time i go bareback with a girl in kiev with normal girls that take sometimes 3-4 dates and yes even that is still risky.
for straight p4p girls who have a lot more mileage on them. it is simply insane not to use protection.[/quote]
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Anyone use travelgirls. Com in Kiev? It works really?
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Is she for real?
[QUOTE=YellowPaul; 1497410]I can give a VK girl contact now that I not talking to her anymore. She is not strictly P4P, you have to tell her your offering a "modelling assignment" for a weekend. LOL.
Be clear your staying in the same apartment.
$500 should be good enough.
[url]http://vk.com/alla_blondy[/url][/QUOTE]I checked her Facebook page she says she is in a relationship.
Is she moonlighting?
You know this gal that calls herself Sofi Dancer? She advertises on different websites. Anybody?
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Italy
[QUOTE=Epicurious; 1501653]I checked her Facebook page she says she is in a relationship.
Is she moonlighting?
You know this gal that calls herself Sofi Dancer? She advertises on different websites. Anybody?[/QUOTE]
I still have a bit of contact with her. She told she's in Italy now but coming back soon.
Relationship? LOL
All depends who gives her a better offer I guess, as is typical of these girls who know the value of their beauty. I don't know any Sofi.
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[QUOTE=Epicurious;1501653]You know this gal that calls herself Sofi Dancer? She advertises on different websites. Anybody?[/QUOTE]I cannot PM you. Can you post the FB or other links where you say she goes by Sofi Dancer?
I could find nothing.
I know her as Alla.
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[QUOTE=John Corey; 1496609]A while ago someone took the trouble of making a detailed map of the clubs in Kiev on google maps and was kind enough to post it on the board. I had it on one of my old devices
That I lost. Can anyone guide to that post or the author of that wonderful map?[/QUOTE][url]Https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&t=m&source=embed&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=210165396771676132185.0004c24520d27ec93c8ca[/url]
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[QUOTE=Shinai;1497385]I can't remenber exactly where Sophia comes from but I remember she was living and studying in Kiev. If she left the club that is a pitty she was very beutiful. Apart from her how is the club scenes nowadays I mean the quality of the girls what is your opinion.[/QUOTE]Sophia doesn't work as a dancer anymore, rich ukrainian boyfriend
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Kiev Security situation
How is the ground situation in Kiev? Safe for foreign visitors? What do you think of the upheaval going on?
Ciao.
Misc
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[QUOTE=Misc123; 1502933]How is the ground situation in Kiev? Safe for foreign visitors? What do you think of the upheaval going on?
Ciao.
Misc[/QUOTE]Not safe.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig2tjGfoS5M[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tINXb8cWIwk[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dI2HYBfgXY#t=27[/url]
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Situation in Kiev
I got some information from friends in Kiev and they say that the situation changes every day. If it stays like now, it's not a problem to come to Kiev but if not. Of course you shouldn't book a hotel / apartment near Kreshatik / Maidan and not near Place Micael. Another point is that they might do a curfew! That wouldn't be nice as well. Another friend told me that Rio is closed for renovation? Can anyone confirm?
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[QUOTE=Misc123; 1502933]How is the ground situation in Kiev? Safe for foreign visitors? What do you think of the upheaval going on?
Ciao.
Misc[/QUOTE]Just a matter of short time beore this little Volodias soldier signing the deal with EU criminals. All will be fine, and people there will continue to live in a dream that EU will do anything good for them.
Forgeting that first people have to change. This might be even perfect time to travel to Kiev
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[QUOTE=Muddy7;1503031]Not safe.[/QUOTE]I was just in Kiev last week and felt safe the entire time. I went to Buddha Bar. Which is right by the epicenter. Everything was fine. However, I did not find many girls out and about in the normal locations. D'lux was a total bust.
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Ukraine Situation
[QUOTE=Tomux 22; 1503203]Just a matter of short time beore this little Volodias soldier signing the deal with EU criminals. All will be fine, and people there will continue to live in a dream that EU will do anything good for them.
Forgeting that first people have to change. This might be even perfect time to travel to Kiev[/QUOTE]Tomux. You are right on the money. Muddy, I saw those videos before from yesterday. My sources in different parts of ukraine actually indicate this is a Kiev only phenomenon and mostly concentrated in Kiev center. Good time to travel yes, if the protests die down.
Ciao
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INGA porn Star
[QUOTE=Uke Boy; 389240]This site allows for an expression of most sexual desires. However, it is a puzzle to me that guys could come all this way to Kiev just for a massage and hand job or what is sometimes referred to as a "rub & tug." They can get this from nice Russian or Ukrainian (or Oriental) ladies at home for a lot cheaper. There is such a concentration of prime stunning and beautiful talent here, all ready and willing, that you can meet most anywhere, from club and bar pickups to pros, for a night or a week of pleasure, that massage parlors are just not on my radar screen. I know you can occasionally get full sex services in massage parlors here but it is very hit or miss and most of the time you will need to speak Russian in order to obtain such "favors."
Most of my ladies are non-pros, those I meet at business functions or through local friends or just sitting around in bars or restaurants. However, sometimes I just want to indulge and enjoy sampling the local professionals.
Few would ever imagine that if you came to Kiev, you could spend time with a porn actress. She has been in about five or so Sineplex productions under the name of Yana.
She is quite a wild handful. Her name is Inga and her web site is...[/QUOTE]Does anyone have photos of this Inga. Its a long shot but I'd to try to track her down if she's till working. There are several Yana's who appeared in Sineplex movies at around the same time.
Thanks in advance.
SJ
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I cancelled my trip for this weekend because of protests. I afraid may be a curfew. Hope next weekend all will be ok. I only go for 1 day. Saturday arrival and Sunday back and protests is pick at sundays. I am confused.