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TAGGED Freebie
I have been chatting with this girl for a while and I can say she is someone very interesting and fun to chat with, We started with just the regular Message on Tagged for a few days until she felt interested and intrigued enough to want to chat with me more. We exchanged MSN.
From then on, we would chat the whole day about funny stuff and Food and in the evening, she would be ok to do some kinky stuff on cam.
Last night she send me this message: "Baby, my period come soon, I am very horny, I want you"
I wasn't really expecting that. We joked many times about me sneaking into her apartment and joining her while she is under the shower.
I replied to her MSN that it was a bit Late but that I was willing to wake up early and see her.
She asked me to go to 7/11 and get some snack and chocolate before coming to see her, and she said to call her from the Taxi.
I get 2 packs of condoms, fruits, snacks, drinks and grab a Taxi. I call her and then pass the Phone to the Taxi driver for her to tell him how to get to her place.
Once I arrive there the building looks very clean and a security guard opens the door for me. He is surprised to see me but still lets me through as he sees I bring Food and Beverages.
He smiles at me and I nicely offer him a bag of chips, he is a bit surprised and accepts it with a Big Wai and a smile.
Up I go to the Apartment. The Room is quite small, about 30sqm and there is no kitchen, just a bed, a cabinet, a small CRT TV and bathroom (wall shower hose).
Lady opens the door and we are both all smiles, she takes the bags and looks inside. She tells me she is hungry and ask me what I want to do. I did not come all this way to watch her eat so I tell her I want to see the bathroom, she smiles and says "you want shower?"."ok" I reply and go in the bathroom. She has prepared a towel for me and I have a "Cold water" shower.
She is on the bed waiting and looking at me, coming out wrapped in a towel. I lay beside her and she does not move an inch. Cool, I'll take the lead.
I lean over to kiss her and she is a bit "Cold", I think she is a bit apprehensive and turns her head the other way when I try to kiss her lips. Fair enough, I can't expect her to be all in love from the start.
I go down slowly kissing and softly licking her while gradually removing her night-gown. Her eyes are closed and I hear her moaning softly: she is enjoying.
After I go way down to her sweet spot, she transforms, she grabs my hair and pushes towards her pussy.
I make her cum and she is all changed, Big smile, hungry eye. She wants to take care of me now.
She seems quite surprised and happy with Johnson's Size, she is stroking it and staring. I will learn later that she had 3 BF before and all were Thai-Chinese and quite small in the Pecker department. Anyway, sex was Great (Blow job was horrible though).
After sex, we showered together and had a second round in her bathroom.
We lay in bed trying to talk but her English isn't great and she does write and understands better when chatting. She told me she lives with a lady friend (they share the Room) and her friend go away to PAttaya to see her Boyfriend (a thai guy). They each pay 1, 500 per month for Rent (No A / C).
After talking I get horny again and she is happy, she asks me to DATY Again, she says "I love you do for me". She tells me she is super Horny before and after her Period.
We have sex a third time and she can't take anymore. She falls asleep.
I am in her apartment as I write this report. I am not sure if I should wait till she wakes up for another round or just leave?
Life is hard in Thailand.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1137479]I have been chatting with this girl for a while and I can say she is someone very interesting and fun to chat with, We started with just the regular Message on Tagged for a few days until she felt interested and intrigued enough to want to chat with me more. We exchanged MSN.
Life is hard in Thailand. [/QUOTE]How much time do you invest on average to bang one girl? Also, what is your "conversion" ratio?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1137481]How much time do you invest on average to bang one girl? Also, what is your "conversion" ratio?[/QUOTE]I never really count, but at the moment there are about 20 girls I am chatting up (off and on) , but not all are ok to meet only for a fuck. That is why I prefer to spend more time chatting and be sure rather than meeting them for dates and wasting my time.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1137490]I never really count, but at the moment there are about 20 girls I am chatting up (off and on) , but not all are ok to meet only for a fuck. That is why I prefer to spend more time chatting and be sure rather than meeting them for dates and wasting my time.[/QUOTE]I consider the chatting to be the bigger waste of time. A lot of girls just like having guys give them attention online. I try to skip ahead to meeting as quickly as possible, because if they're willing to meet then you end up sleeping together before long.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1137490]I never really count, but at the moment there are about 20 girls I am chatting up (off and on) , but not all are ok to meet only for a fuck. That is why I prefer to spend more time chatting and be sure rather than meeting them for dates and wasting my time.[/QUOTE]I know you have a great job that pays big money and all that, but do you ever have time for work, Frenchy? .
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[QUOTE=Daddy07;1137507]I know you have a great job that pays big money and all that, but do you ever have time for work, Frenchy? .[/QUOTE]I have a Big team under me so I delegate a lot. But I still have big risks. I have Msn on my phone so it is always easy to Chat "on the Go" and also a lot in evenings.
As opposed to Evianist, I am not meeting any girl until I am sure we will meet for sex. My Staff have enough stories of them going to fancy restaurants and Clubs with Farangs just to get free meals and drinks. And never actually get laid.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1137513]As opposed to Evianist, I am not meeting any girl until I am sure we will meet for sex.[/QUOTE]Every farang on every thai dating site is trying to do the same thing. And many of them are offering money, gifts and vacations. Logging endless hours on MSN and camfrog having inane flirty conversations is something I can't personally stomach, so I'd rather just ask them to meet and see what happens. But it sounds like you're enjoying yourself, so whatever works for you.
[quote]My Staff have enough stories of them going to fancy restaurants and Clubs with Farangs just to get free meals and drinks. And never actually get laid.[/quote]That was rampant where I lived back home. Can't imagine guys going that route here when they could walk down the street and pop into a massage parlour, but given some of the fees guys have reported that they willingly paid, I'm sure it happens.
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I couldn't stomach the hours of chatting either. I guess we are not as dedicated to pussy as Nic is!
What about meeting girls in the streets etc? It shouldn't be that hard and I think that's what I would do if I were an expat in BKK. Right now I'm banging a waitress from a restaurant I hang out in, it was quite likely the easiest sex I've ever had. Just a few jokes here and there was all it took. And no, I'm not paying or gifting her anything. In my limited experience with normal thai girls, they don't seem very hard to crack.
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[QUOTE=Chill Out;1137586]In my limited experience with normal thai girls, they don't seem very hard to crack.[/QUOTE]That's true if you aim for the lower Class (waitresses, shop attendants) or middle class (office) girls, but once you start to tap into the upper middle class and / or the young, white, pretty girls, then it's difficult because you have to really get into their heads. These style of ladies are looking for Rich thai Guys and not Farangs. Sure they are Crackable, but it takes time and Patience. And a lot of perseverance (many will refuse).
Street random girls (check) , waitresses (check) , Shop Attendants (check) , Hairdressers (Check) , Office Gal (check) , Manager (check) , Banker (check) , Student (check) , Air Force (Check). Getting boring now unless I go for the more difficult girls. These ones won't meet you at all unless you really take the time first.
Once I bed the girl I am after now (been 2 months.) then I will be back to P4P. It's less headaches.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1137591]once you start to tap into the upper middle class and / or the young, white, pretty girls, then it's difficult because you have to really get into their heads. These style of ladies are looking for Rich thai Guys and not Farangs. Sure they are Crackable, but it takes time and Patience. And a lot of perseverance (many will refuse)...Getting boring now unless I go for the more difficult girls. These ones won't meet you at all unless you really take the time first.[/QUOTE]
From what you've said, you're getting all your girls from tagged dot com. This is where the highest level, difficult to crack, upper class thai women hang out?
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[QUOTE=Evianist;1137594]From what you've said, you're getting all your girls from tagged dot com. This is where the highest level, difficult to crack, upper class thai women hang out?[/QUOTE]Because you think I will lay all the details of my life on a sex forum? Hahahahaha
Those who met and know me are aware. As far as ISG is concerned, let's stick to ST and LT Prices.
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My Internet System
I have 3 preset message templates. 1st Message, Reply to First Message, Third Message.
If I haven't got the phone number and agreement to meet for coffee by message 3 then I abandon that prospect (there is a right way to ask for the phone number and a wrong way. I am not giving up all my secrets)!
I never talk about sex or anything remotely like that in the messages.
I tell them I don't have time to msn or chat but much prefer to meet in person (there is a right way to ask and a wrong way. I am not giving up all my secrets)!
Arrange to meet for coffee (never lunch or dinner, too big a commitment and too expensive and no easy bail out)
Choose a cheap coffee shop very close (3 minutes walk) to your apartment (Starbucks too expensive if pursuing many leads).
Never think about sex on the first date (unless it is blindingly obvious). Meet for coffee only and be super nice and super polite (I used to aim for sex on first date but the strike rate is low compared to the long term benefits of the patient approach. Aiming for sex on first date is for amateurs and everyone is trying that. Possible 5 years ago but game has changed now).
Tell them you have a really nice apartment and would love to show them your place next time you meet.
Send a thank you sms and other occasional sms messages (but not too many, just have a nice day and so on to stay on the radar).
Next date tell them you are feeling very lazy but would love to see them and invite them to your apartment (there is a right way to ask them to your apartment and a wrong way. I am not giving up all my secrets)!
If they come then its game on (always assume they will be late for all dates by the way, which is why it's important the coffee shop you meet at be near your place. Only stop what you are doing and proceed to rendevous when they have confirmed their arrival).
I have a large sofa with an additional small one seater. When they come to your apartment ensure the one seater is full of cushions so they can't sit there (they will be isolated and you can't get them out of that seat).
Once they are sat on the sofa, you sit on the one seater and they start to relax. Put on music make them laugh a bit talk for a while and so on.
Get up and get them a drink or go to the toilet and then sit on the sofa next to them and hold their hand.
If they don't object out then its game on! If they object then apologise and be super polite and move back to your seat (they love this as they know they are safe in your hands and these are the ones that crop up later as referenced below).
The approximate stats.
Send 20 messages.
Get 10 replies.
From those replies get 6 numbers.
From those 6 numbers meet 4.
2 will come to your apartment.
You will bang 1 that comes to your apartment (but many more later as per below).
Now here is the interesting part and the BEAUTY of Thailand and Thai girls. The above may all sound like a lot of effort but there is a compounding effect that kicks in around the 6 to 8 week mark assuming you have been disciplined in sending 10 to 20 messages per day.
What happens is that you never come on or off a Thai girls radar you simply move up and down their priority list. All of a sudden you will start getting random calls at all hours from girls you met weeks ago that now want to meet and when you tell them fine but only for sex they always agree (that's why they are calling you anyway).
It is more or less a pure numbers game and if you religiously follow the discipline of sending messages every day then in 6 to 8 weeks you will be banging more Thai girls (and I mean office workers and so called real girls) than you know what to do with. Your head will be spinning and you can have sex two to three times a day with different girls. I cannot stress enough that this will NOT happen straight away. It takes discipline and perseverance but the dividends are phenomenal. You simply will not be able to keep up after the 6 to 8 week mark. Fortunately many people haven't worked this out and give up in the first week after not getting laid.
Surprisingly (or actually no surprise at all) the BEST online hunting hours are Monday to Friday from 9am to 5pm (although 3pm to 5pm is prime time). Office girls busy in the office!
I am only interested in so called 'office' or 'real' girls (I call them civilians) and here are some tips for identifying non real girls:
Works in Salon.
Can play pool
Knows Gullivers on Soi 5
No Job.
Have Own Business – Question Mark.
Knows Q Bar and Spassos.
Knows Climax in Soi 11.
Under no circumstances do I pay any of the girls and I beleive they would be offended if I did. If they look like the type who want payment or commitment I abandon that prospect.
Hope this helps. Be warned you will need spreadsheets and detailed descriptions on your phone as things spiral out of control (I am 100% serious about that).
Happy Hunting
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La Belle Lunch
Having arrived the day before with my Singaporean colleague, we met Thai clients for "lunch". They had meetings til 1, and then we went to their choice of lunch spot. La Belle.
Rather more upscale than places like Utopia. No fishbowl or sideline, just a stack of "lips"-shaped couches for the girls to sit on. It was pretty dead when we arrived at 130, so we had snacks and drinks and chatted with the mammi while one of the clients got his VIP card for this year (he paid for that on his own, but :lunch: was on us. I've got to say that the prices ("S" at 2900Bht, and up past 5K for "L" and special girls) are out of my "own pocket"'s league with all the adds. The place doesn't (from discussions in Thai between mammi and our clients, and my colleague (who speaks more THai than I do). That their prices are high enough that they don't see the need for a farang charge. YMMV if you show up not speaking any Thai.
Anyway, after about 15 girls got out of the locker room, we made our choices. I went with #S19. Patt. Who looked very much like a Japanese girl. Tiny, with more boob than I expected from seeing her upon the lip-couches.
The set up at La Belle is pretty typical. Elevator up to the rooms, room has a tub (big new 4 seat jacuzzi) , a separate steam shower, bed, and enough room for a 3person couch and TV. After a little messing about on the couch, she helped me undress, and we went thru the traditional scrubbing (Dettol in the water, don't get it in your eyes) , mouthwash, etc. Turns out that she's the resident "Kawaii-girl" (gets a lot of Japanese clients) , speaks Japanese (as do I). We went to the bed, where she expressed concern at the size of Herr Shwantz, and then proceeded to give me a three-axis deepthroat CBJ with Axels, Sitz spins, and tilt-and-whirls that gave the lie bigtime to her concerns. She wasn't keen on DATY, but did respond well to thumb and finger work as we went through having her lower lips swallow me, as well. Between cowgirl, mish, reverse cowgirl, sitting, standing, doggie, doggie yoga, and back to cowgirl after another round of CBJ, she was successful in dragging a full load out of me (vitamin L gives me a headache, but tends to leave me unlikely to pop until very very late in the game, and I was out of C.) I'd call her an 8. 5 for looks (very pretty face (chang Mai girl, but looks Japanese) , flawless skin and breasts, cute butt (a little scarring) , and long, curled hair). Call it 8 for service (she was up for plenty, tried hard, was funny, got into the moment) , and 8. 5 for skillsets. Didn't try backdoor, tho she was likely up for it with a little prep, but the CBJ was about the best I've gotten. That I can remember, and she was tight and acrobatic, (and light enough to played as a spinner, never a bad thing as far as I'm concerned.
Phone rang as we were cleaning up. Got dressed, got digits (she has a blackberry. LOL). Went down, and with traffic at a BKK late afternoon standard jam, walked a block or so to the subway, and thence to BTS and my hotel.
I'd go back. On an expense account, but otherwise. Not my price range, tho the talent did seem to match the priciness.
(Side note. Saw a girl there sitting in the lounge area (waiting for a guy who arrived just before we went upstairs, and never got off his phone, as far as I could see) who looked like an A-Pop star (big hair, black miniskirt, and a 10K$ Bell&Ross watch). I'd hazard that she was one of the "specials" and was clearly pre-booked. Youch.)
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@Nic: fair enough. Quite comparable to my situation in China.
@Bowerboy: in your opinion, how do you explain the initial lukewarm interest then the interested messages a few weeks later? I imagine you talk to the girls about it; what's the explanation?
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@OC ass man: so is La Belle an afternoon place? Do you have to have lunch there or can you just roll in and get a girl?