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Johndao,
I understand that you were not giving any endorsement out for the TN MP. I like to go experience as many places and make my own mind up, I fully understand one mans favorite place will be another's nightmare. I just had to go experience it for myself. It was a right place (or wrong place) at the right time as I was on a bike ride and happened to come across it. Ah well onto the next MP.
[QUOTE=Johndao]Mik,
I sure hope you did not think I was giving any kind of endorsement to this place. I panned it, said I had a terrible time and left before my time was up. Only Hardluck seems to enjoy, as he likes being beaten roughly there. I surely don't see how you could think Thanh Nghia is a popular place on this forum. That's what the forum is for, to help one another enjoy the good and avoid the bad. Festival is a popular place on this forum although I have never tried it as I am not a big fan of the HJ.
JD[/QUOTE]
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Thanh Nghia
lol johndao, i haven't ever been beaten roughly at thanh nghia. i have had some bad moments there, but nobody has beaten my ass up yet. lol you are right though, in the respect that the treatment seems to vary from customer to customer. it seems to me that when an occidental walks in the door, it is open season on "money scalping". and the level of service seems to vary greatly from one girl to another.
me? i just related my high points inside that place. i have not related the really low points, of which i have had a couple of those also. now, in my own defense, i will say that i have only spent about 9 years of my life in asia, in one country or another. it has never changed and has always been the same. asian women are somehow, for whatever reason, in love with my skin, the texture. i have had asian women sit and rub the skin on my ass literally for hours, oohing and aweing about it. hell, i don't know why, i just know it happens. i have been told by several asian women that i have a "million dollar cock". i don't know why, but it seems to impress them. thirdly, old, young, pretty, ugly, or just somewhere in between, i love asian women. i can look at a normal, somewhat non-attractive asian woman, and my eyes can somehow see her as she was on her most beautiful day of her life. if she has inner beauty, it can somehow transform itself onto her face, and make her beautiful to me. my regard and appreciation of asian women is so damn high that even i am awed by its depth at times. i can't help it, i don't apologize for it, and i never shall. so, suffice it to say, that even as old and used up as i am, there is something inside me that can transcend the time and distance between myself and almost any asian woman, and go right to her heart. they feel it, and most have reciprocated in kind. it is what it is. i really don't know what it is, i just know it is there, and that it works. my doctor here in california insists i go to a physical therapist. as i age, my war ailments seem to get worse. my physical therapist is asian. i have been to see her 5 times already. last week, i went for a visit, and when we got into the room, she immediately got naked, and began to suck my cock. i was shocked. then, she wanted to make love. the whole time, i was asking myself, what in the fuck does she want with an old war-horse like me? my god, can you just imagine it? anyway, our experiences vary, according to the girl, the place or the situation. me? i sit here and admire you and your escapades there and envy the hell outta you at times. lol you will not be fortunate to live long enough to see me criticize another member here in isg. somehow, i don't think that is why jackson set up this place. it seems to be more for the uninhibited sharing of mongering information between us guys, to the betterment and ultimate satisfaction of us all. three cheers for jackson!
my hero!
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[quote=hardlock1]lol johndao, i haven't ever been beaten roughly at thanh nghia. i have had some bad moments there, but nobody has beaten my ass up yet. you will not be fortunate to live long enough to see me criticize another member here in isg. somehow, i don't think that is why jackson set up this place. it seems to be more for the uninhibited sharing of mongering information between us guys, to the betterment and ultimate satisfaction of us all. three cheers for jackson! [/quote]hey hardluck,
i was not 'criticizing another member. ' just meant that you like the rough massage there. kind of like they are beating or cracking you.common in vn but most people don't seem to like it. you do. that's good.
btw, great experience on the asian physical therapist there in the us. reminds you of being back here, right? just too easy. .
jd
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JohnDao I still envy you
[quote=johndao]hey hardluck,
i was not 'criticizing another member. ' just meant that you like the rough massage there. kind of like they are beating or cracking you.common in vn but most people don't seem to like it. you do. that's good.
btw, great experience on the asian physical therapist there in the us. reminds you of being back here, right? just too easy.
jd[/quote] i know you were not criticizing me, johndao. i said that sorta tongue-in-cheek as it were. lol and yes, i do like the rough massage a bit, because specifically, one of my war wounds is a bunch of damaged nerves in my back and right hip. causes my back to ache unmercifully and my legs to ache also. the rough massage helps. sometimes the girl will crack my back and make me feel better for weeks at the time.
yeah, every time i see a pretty asian woman here, i flash back to vietnam. i can't help it. then i start to grin, and think of my experiences there. once in a while, i remember your video of little tiny mai, saying "dau lam" while you had at her and i start to do a belly-laugh, and envy you more. lol
two days ago, john, i went to see my physical therapist again. only, she wasnt there. bummer. there was a new therapist there and when we started talking, i found out she was from korea. i spoke to her in korean and she went into shock. well, we spent an hour talking about korea and my time there, and about how she missed it. in her language, of course. my god she knows what she is doing, and i am still feeling wonderful after that massage and workout. needless to say, before my time was up, and in korean, i told her how pretty she was and how sexy she looked. i touched her, somewhat inappropriatly, and she touched me back! lol the next thing i know, she whispers to me in my ear and asked me if i liked to eat pussy! i never said another word. i just showed her. and the obvious answer to whether she knows how to give a bj? ask my dick. he is still smiling. so yeah, i miss the hell outta vietnam, but not as much as i could be missing it. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
john, i want to ask you a question. you have the experiences of mai, trang, nguyet, dung and phuong behind you now, so you should be able to answer me this one question. making love is intensely personal to a viet woman, isn't it? and, because they are special, each and every one of them, that makes it intensely personal to you, don't it? what i mean is, when you think back on it, on each experience with them, doesn't it give you a warm glow inside, and a certain fondness for each of them and that time you shared together? now, looking back on it, it wasnt just fucking, was it? it was an intensely personal experience you will always cherish, huh? am i right? with viet women, that is how it is with me. i'm just asking, john, lol. you don't have to answer if you don't want!
jackson for president!
h is out
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[QUOTE=Hardlock1]John, I want to ask you a question. You have the experiences of Mai, Trang, Nguyet, Dung and Phuong behind you now, so you should be able to answer me this one question. Making love is intensely personal to a Viet woman, isn't it? And, because they are special, each and every one of them, that makes it intensely personal to you, don't it? What I mean is, when you think back on it, on each experience with them, doesn't it give you a warm glow inside, and a certain fondness for each of them and that time you shared together? Now, looking back on it, it wasn't just fucking, was it? It was an intensely personal experience you will always cherish, huh? Am I right? With Viet women, that is how it is with me. I'm just asking, John, LOL. You don't have to answer if you don't want![/QUOTE]No, these are just girls I want to slam the hell out of, fuck them as hard and fast and long and deep as I can. Shove my cock down their throat till they gag, squeeze it into their ass if I can, spank their butt cheeks red. And I want to take pics and vid of doing it and show them to you. All for 150 or 200k. You saw Mai on video. You know what I want. What you describe above, I don't have pictures of. At least not that I will show. Those are different girls, different times.
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I think that Hardlock and Johndao are talking at crossed purposes here a little because Johndao has been chasing and reporting on the short time experiences to be found on the streets and elsewhere whereas Hardlock is looking more at overnighters and longer term experiences.
I would suspect that Hardlock and I have about 20 years on Johndao and that largely explains the differences in our tastes.
Whilst the ST experiences that Johndao has described can certainly be had the more leisurely GFE experiences that Hardlock mentions can also be had.
And, if I am buying it, I am quite happy to pay more than Johndao has mentioned in order to ensure the longer term GFE experience.
Each to his own.
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Very warm glow !
[QUOTE=Hardlock1]when you think back on it, on each experience with them, doesn't it give you a warm glow inside, and a certain fondness for each of them and that time you shared together? [/QUOTE]
I stopped to think about this a bit. And yes, absolutely my Vietnamese experiences have had this effect on me more often than, say, those i've had in Singapore Indonesia and Malaysia. I couldn't say exactly why that is so, but for me it definately is so.
I'm looking forward to being back there in the next couple of months, only concern is how to juggle those several intensly personal experiences.... they all want to travel around with me! :-)
Ozirob
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Honest Appreciated!
Thanks JohnDao,
I appreciate your candor. And you know? Its okay, for as Sudsoz said, to each his own. I do suspect that we have about 15 or 20 years on you and might have slowed down just a step to the point where we savor the smells and tastes a little more than the mere substance of an encounter. I also suspect that in time, one of those little cuties is going to whack you pretty good, and a light will turn on and start shining inside you. It is then that you are going to think, "hey, those assholes were right! " Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Keep mongering my friend. We all appreciate you.
H is out
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[quote=sudsoz]i think that hardlock and johndao are talking at crossed purposes here a little because johndao has been chasing and reporting on the short time experiences to be found on the streets and elsewhere whereas hardlock is looking more at overnighters and longer term experiences.
i would suspect that hardlock and i have about 20 years on johndao and that largely explains the differences in our tastes.
whilst the st experiences that johndao has described can certainly be had the more leisurely gfe experiences that hardlock mentions can also be had.
and, if i am buying it, i am quite happy to pay more than johndao has mentioned in order to ensure the longer term gfe experience.
each to his own.[/quote]hey suds and hardlock,
if you guys have 20 years on me then you will be peering into your eighth decade next year!
we all don't really know each other except for our posts here, but it seems you are assuming that the totality of my sexual life and experiences here in saigon are with the girls i post and describe. in terms of time, that is a really small part of my life. in terms of money, even less. but in terms of what i take pictures of and send to strangers, along with the real story, it is considerable.
i go slow, i wine and dine, i take my time, i seduce. i have gfe, but real gfe, not one i pay for. if i want to pay, i don't want to spend much time and i don't need to spend much money to be satisfied. i get what i want and pictures too.
i wanted to comment about 'short-time' vs a girl who stays overnight, but well, if you think that a girl who just stays overnight as you pay her is not short-time, well. . . . i've never done it and i hope i never will.
i like to take pictures and i like to post them. but what kind of girl lets you take pics like this and could not care less what you do with them? guys, where are your pictures? i like pictures and the real story. that's why i am here, on isg.
jd
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District Binh Thanh MPs
Follow closely. From D1 I made a right on ĐBP and crossed over the river "Rạch Thị Nghè" via the "Cầu Điện Biên Phủ" Bridge. This will take you into D. BT, where all the Họt Tọc's are at that are talked about on a different thread. If you continue on until the roundabout where ĐBP meets Xô Viết Nghệ Tĩnh Street, you will want to make a left onto XvNT. For your first time follow this exactly, as it can be a bit confusing. Continue on XvNT until you come to a Y. STAY TO THE LEFT and continue going straight. This is now Highway 13 and its a one way. I am not sure what the actual name of the street is, but its NOT XvNT. After awhile you will see another bridge. But BEFORE you get to the bridge you will see away of turning left and jumping on the other one way street back towards ĐBP called "Đinh Bộ Lĩnh St". Its also a one way and you can see it coming off the same bridge you would have taken, if you remained going straight. This street has a BUNCH of "massage" places on both sides of the street. I do believe that the left side has more than the right, but don't quote me on that. Its a large road with several lanes.
I came here yesterday and again today and went to two different spots. Sorry guys, I don't remember the address number. You will see a bunch of girls wearing short dresses/skirts inside most of these places. Similar to the haircut places you walk in pay a small fee, ranging from 50k-70k dong for a massage. Both places I went to took me upstairs to an open massage area and ask me to take my shirt off. One time I was alone and another there was one other Vietnamese guy who by the looks of it, just got there before I did. They dim the lights and start with a basic massage on your legs and chest while also massaging the male member. After a bit they pull your pants down for a good BBBJ til CIM.
Overal good experience if you want some more variety. It does take a little time to get there, but on a positive not, there are a lot of places to eat and drink around there as well and also lots of Karaoke. I tipped 100k dong and that was that. Easy transaction for 160k total.
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[QUOTE=Alwayshard45]Follow closely. From D1 I made a right on ĐBP and crossed over the river "Rạch Thị Nghè" via the "Cầu Điện Biên Phủ" Bridge. This will take you into D. BT, where all the Họt T....
After a bit they pull your pants down for a good BBBJ til CIM.
Overal good experience if you want some more variety. It does take a little time to get there, but on a positive not, there are a lot of places to eat and drink around there as well and also lots of Karaoke. I tipped 100k dong and that was that. Easy transaction for 160k total.[/QUOTE]Please let me know which one you visited that did the CIM. I visited the first shop on the left with girls out front and the last shop on the left right before crossing the small small bridge. They give the BBBJ but no CIM for me. I have gone to the shops where all the girls seem to be wearing the same uniform with brighter lighting. These are all on the left side of the street. Then there are the places that seem slightly darker and the girls are not all necessarily wearing the same outfit. I haven't tried these because it is more difficult to see the girls from outside. Is this where you have experienced the CIM? If you could jot down the address number of the places with the CIM or describe in detail the front. It would be appreciated!
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Would like to know the same.
Went to the last shop before passing the small small bridge. BBBJ, but most of the time HJ, no CIM.
Will be in hcm end of the week, will try other places too.
Maybe you can give some advice.
Big thx
[QUOTE=Tom Strander]Please let me know which one you visited that did the CIM. I visited the first shop on the left with girls out front and the last shop on the left right before crossing the small small bridge. They give the BBBJ but no CIM for me. I have gone to the shops where all the girls seem to be wearing the same uniform with brighter lighting. These are all on the left side of the street. Then there are the places that seem slightly darker and the girls are not all necessarily wearing the same outfit. I haven't tried these because it is more difficult to see the girls from outside. Is this where you have experienced the CIM? If you could jot down the address number of the places with the CIM or describe in detail the front. It would be appreciated![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tom Strander]Please let me know which one you visited that did the CIM. I visited the first shop on the left with girls out front and the last shop on the left right before crossing the small small bridge. They give the BBBJ but no CIM for me. I have gone to the shops where all the girls seem to be wearing the same uniform with brighter lighting. These are all on the left side of the street. Then there are the places that seem slightly darker and the girls are not all necessarily wearing the same outfit. I haven't tried these because it is more difficult to see the girls from outside. Is this where you have experienced the CIM? If you could jot down the address number of the places with the CIM or describe in detail the front. It would be appreciated![/QUOTE]I have tried the one just before that small bridge and I did recieve CIM. I have also been to other places, farther down, after the bridge on the left hand side. There are a couple more just before you land back on DBP. All of them also provided with CIM. The last massage place before the end of the road also has a couple girls with some HUGE viet tits. real of course. however, they charge more, it was 100k entry fee. Also with this difference, they provided a good massage (30-45 mins) and a shampoo. Worth the extra dong.
Hope that helps. Sucks, for the both of you, were not able to receive CIM.
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BJ places
Hi guys,
I really appreciate your contributions about these BJ places, and I agree the CIM-NO CIM dispute is not irrelevant.
But. Let's say we understood the directions, as a newbie going there (with no local language) what should we do? Expect? Pay? What is going to happen, in your opinion?
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When I was first riding around saigon learning the place (still getting lost and confused) I stopped in at one of these hot toc/massage shops on the mentioned street. I was greeted by a english speaking girl/receptionist/cashier who was very pretty and was showing me brief glimpses of her lacy knickers. Anyway I get lead upstairs to a big room, which is curtained off into stalls, the girl who was sleeping on the bed next to me was told to leave, There was a lockbox in the stall which I put my watch, wallet, phone, keys and locked and kept the key around my wrist. Anyway I get a crappy massage that was more like poking than anything else, then I get asked if theres anything else I want, I motioned for BJ and the girl looked at me like I was from Mars.
I end up with a HJ.
Cost me around 300k for the HJ, and 160K for the entry fee.
No shower, no clean towel, no refreshment only the sour taste of being ripped off.
If you do go to these local establishments then try to speak some of the language.
I stick to my massage parlour at Son Tra Hotel (I think thats the spelling) Its located on Vo Thi Sau before Pasteur on the right. Theres some roadworks on that street now so it will be harder to see. 70k entry with use of the steambath, showers, spa, sauna and massage with BJ for around 300k. The girls will try for 500k but I just tell them 100/200k and settle on 300k. They give the old sad face/puppydog eyes routine but will do it for 300k. VN speakers will probably get for less. You can get their phone numbers and make arrangements to meet after.
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