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Dusty Bin,
The wealth poeple go to gym and have a private trainer.
Go to Monaco and Cann in the summer you will see the real fancy rich peaple slim with sporty look.
The Moldovan girls try to look fancy with their turkish cloth.
The Moldovan girls are a nature beauty.
ESSI
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You are right, but the girls who are usually poor, at least the ones that you go with, associate slimness with poverty. It is why they are slim, it is why you will not see fat people on the streets. For these girls. fat is a sign of always enough to eat. You should well know that there are many who do not always have enough to eat, including the girls that you have sex with.
Most of the girls will not regularly, if ever, associate with the really wealthy, as I suspect, neither do you. At our level, what I say, is, in Moldova, true.
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D B
I agree with you, the girls here are poor but the girls who live in Kishinev and have good jobs a 150$ a month. the are not poverty.
Dont forget that the food is very cheap here.
You will not see them at NR. 1 supermarket or FIDESCO. but the basic food is cheap in the central market.
To see a family suffering of hunger I think you can find in the villages.
In general I go with girls from Kishinev, bankers, accountants, sells lady, even a lawyer, ect.
If she is pretty and poor its make no different to me ;-))
Essi
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Dusty,
Good to hear from you.
I didn't mean to draw an exact parallel between fat and rich, there are plenty of rich thin people and poor fat people. Mainly, I think that Moldovan girls may forgive many shortcomings in a man, such as his physique, if he has the financial means to give them that life of convience that Essi described. This is true all over the world, not just in Moldova.
Also, first impressions are critical. You might be a prince of a fellow, with a heart of gold and a largess as universal as the sun. But, if you can't get past that first, "Hello" (or privyet), who will know? Chisinau girls can be very critical.
Stravinsky
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I guess you're right. I would wear some nice shoes if I could find some comfortable ones for walking. But in Romania I cannot even find a pair of insole arch supports to make shoes more comfortable. They just don't seem to sell them here.
Surely even Moldovans walk for exercise at times? I prefer to meet girls out on the street and shopping during the day, rather than in discos. Are these Ro and Moldovan girls really so superficial that they are going to make final judgements on you based on such silly things?
I notice that lots of Romanian college boys dress casually and it doesn't seem to affect their ability to get dames. So they're allowed to but we are not? Okay, so they're young and I'm older, I guess different rules apply.
I guess they don't realize that some people dress casually not because they can't afford to dress elegantly, but because they think fashion is silly. Some people prefer to dress functionally, and I am like that. Though I admit I like it when women dress fashionably.
I'll figure something out.
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Reggie - eastern european women are incredibly superficial. Thats why they go for foreigners. More money. If you are going to go for a foreigner, why waste time with a poor foreigner. They have dreams, and the younger and more beautiful the girl, the less likely her dreams involve true love. They are more likely to involve "the good life" - top restaurants, top bars, overseas trips etc. And they get theat from the same kind of guys who wear rolexes.
They want a man who wears a decent suit, sharp tie (yes they can tell the difference between a cheap tie and a good silk tie at 50 yards) black leather shoes, a swiss watch and a current model mobile phone.
There is no point fighting it or arguing with their logic. Thats their taste, and you either give them what they are looking for or they look somewhere else.
If you really dont want to make an effort to give them what they want, then you might as well change your own sights and look for middle aged divorcees in their 30s with children - cause they actually are more interested in true love, kind men, and faithfulness etc.
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Just like within any group of people, there are girls with cold empty hearts, and warm loving girls as well. Though its probably true that once a girl has been in it for a while and has been treated badly several times by some of the assholes that are around, she's a lot less likely to still have a sweet side to her. At what point does she change, is there a line that she crosses over ? After a few weeks, a month, 2 assholes, 4, 6? After that, you may just be too late to get the genuine GFE treatment.
If you get very lucky, and so much of it sometimes has everything to do with the timing of meeting someone, you may know a girl before she has been treated badly, when the money and fancy clothes are much less important, and what matters is what you put into it, the old rule that you get back what you give. If you're not too late, its a beautiful thing. But then it can be extremely frustrating if you get used to that and get spoiled, when for days in a row you're only able to find cold hearted greedy *****s.
Then again, I don't think most guys give a shit, they just want a wet hole to stick it in. That's fine too, I mean who really cares ? When you're younger, you tend to take all the pussy you get for granted. It takes a while to stand firm and tell the 6' and 7's no and send them away unfucked, knowing that you'll end up with nothing that night, and hold out for what tomorrow brings. Its been a very difficult 6 months, but it won't be long now. Only a few days to go, and the time for talk will be over, it isn't polite to speak with a mouthful of titties and clit.
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Roger,
The character of the eastern girl that you describe here is more correct to a prostitute girls or maybe 10% of them.
In the last 2 years that I start my business trips to east europe I learn a lot about their behavior espacialy the Moldovan girls,
In general those poor girls dream and wish to have their own CINDARELA story they will do everything if they smell that you are rich and dress well with ROLEX watch, or other brand name cloth.
Not all the girls knows all brand names like VALENTINO,CANALI ARMANI but they can recognize the quality of them from far like Roger describe here.
Most of the eastern girls want LOVE and if on top of it you have money too you may have the top priority to get her love, I have seen here in Moldova that NOT ONLY MONEY run "the business" they realy fall in love if they like you, they want a totaly love and to be with you you every night even just to make sure that she don't have a "competition" with another girl because you are a foreigner and many girls in the bars, discos or at work may put an eye on you.
HAVE A NICE DAY
ESSI
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Thanks, Roger and others.
Okay, one of the things I've learned in life is that it's stupid to waste money on status symbols like BMWs that you don't need. If you can ditch the car, the clothes and the Rolexes, you suddenly find you have money in the bank instead of things, and suddenly a whole new world of luxury opens up to you-- the luxury of not having to worry about money so much anymore because you are not blowing it on things you don't need. You can go buy a farm and live in the country and laugh at the people blowing their dough on shiny status symbols.
Now if I can just explain this to a nice Ro or Moldovan girl with my tiny bit of Romanian language, I'll be all set :o) But I guess they don't want a simple comfortable life among nature, do they? They want to be jet setters.
Seriously, though, I like the idea of a divorcee in her 30s with two kids...that's actually what I'm looking for, because a younger girl, even if she could like a guy old enough to be her dad, would want kids--they all do. And I don't. Someone else's kids might be okay (if they have a father who's going to pay for their college, and if they haven't ruined their mom's body by coming out of her and sucking her breasts too much)
The other alternative is cheap hookers. I trust they will not reject me because of my shoes. And I see no reason why such a relationship couldn't develop into something more. I have great respect for hookers--more so than for regular girls, actually.
If this doesn't work out for me, I'll just go back to SE Asia where I had no problems wearing shorts and sandals all the time (even in winter).
By the way, I've looked at some Italian shoes and they look like medieval torture devices to me. I don't know how anyone could walk in them!
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I think the commercial sex scene in Chisinau is not so highly organized as it is in say, Moscow or Prague. There are not so many places where you can go to just buy a girl for an hour, or a night.
Most of the girls you will meet are non-pro or semi-pro and you will have to do some persuading to get them to go with you. Maybe not a lot, but you can't always assume that their co-operation will be automatic upon payment.
I think Essi is correct that they will tend to have a sort of romantic expectation as well. And this can be a good thing, or, it can be a real pain in the popah. Depending on what you're looking for.
Stravinsky
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I recently met a girl outside the Dedeman Hotel, coming out I started a conversation, I had a idea she was a pro, I asked if she wanted to join me for a drink and she said sure, but then she had to go home. She said she was 25, but i think she was a little older, ok body about a 6, after a drink I talked her into coming back to the apartment (no money was mentioned) and after I got her inside, I again talked her into more;) After a couple hours of sex, though no bbj: (she said she had to go). We agreed to meet again sometime, but I am not so sure. The sex was nothing great, and it was more desperation late at night on my part. Anyway, for those intrested there is a new small hotel called JAZZ, pretty nice but expensive, 1 bd rm, 60 euro, 2 bd rm 100 euro. Renting a apartment is cheaper better option.
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Swarm,
Thanks for the post. Were you in Chisinau recently?
Where is JAZZ located? Is it downtown near Stefan cel Mare?
Stravinsky
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Stravinsky,
The Jazz Hotel is located 2 streets down from Stefan Cell Mare st.
Its just 1 block from Sun city-opposite LUK oil office.
Essi
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Hi guys. I plan on hitting more countries in Eastern Europe after my Prague adventure. This is one of those places. Can anyone give me a more informative pricing information. I see many posts but most guys aren't posting prices.
How specifically does it compare to Prague and other places in Eastern Europe? Sounds like an interesting country. What about other things to see and do? Beautiful country?
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Saint,
Good to hear from you. Welcome to Moldova! I am sure you will not be disappointed. After all the excellent information you've given us over the years, I'm happy to be able to respond.
I assume you're asking about prices for the girls. I imagine that most guys don't mention prices because many times. . . there is none.
The commercial sex scene in Chisinau (pronounced Kishinau) is not highly organized, as you might expect it to be in BA, or Moscow or Prague. Chisinau is sort of like a diamond in the rough with regard to sex tourism. It has the primary ingredient, lots of beautiful and willing young women, but most of the action is non-pro and semi-pro.
Someone living in Chisinau, with a good job, might make $200 USD a month. Most people make less and a young women studying in university or working on her own, only a fraction of that. So, price is not really an issue. For what it would cost to buy an hour with a chica from Madahos, a Moldovan girl would probably be happy to spend the night.
As far as the country itself, Moldova is a former Soviet Republic and a member of the CIS. It's southern location and proximity to the Black Sea give it a little milder climate. It can be hot and humid in the summer and snows in the winter. Moldova is primarily an agricultural country, it's main product being wine and cognac, which is actually pretty good. Believe it or not, Chisinau was sort of the garden spot of the Soviet Union. People came to Chisinau from all over, which is why it still has a large population of Russians and Ukrainians. You may occassionally see the city referred to by it's Russian name, Kishinev.
Once you get beyond the city, the countryside, which consists primarily of green rolling hills, can be very, how shall I say... "rustic". I'm afraid there's not much to do out there. A couple points of interest are the 2 main wineries, Cricova and Milesti Mici. A guided wine tour of one of these can be a fun way to spend an afternoon, with 2 or 3 of your favorite dyevs.
There are several excellent hotels and restaurants in Chisinau, which I believe have all been mentioned in the posts. There's not a whole lot to do during the day, but then, if you're not beginning your day until 1:00 pm or so, it probably doesn't make much difference. I envy you visiting there at this time of year. I would just plant myself at one of the cafe's on Stefan cel Mare, the main boulevard, and watch the mini skirts on parade. You might even persuade one of them to spend the night with you.
Most Moldovans do not speak English. The main languages are Russian and Romanian. So if you don't speak at least a little of these, you will definately face a language barrier. Fortunately, this may not be so much of a problem with the younger generation.
I hope you enjoy yourself. If you have any more questions, let us know.
Shyestleeva,
Stravinksy