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Spent a week in Sochi on vacation in May and there were plenty of lovely ladies, sort of the Daytona Beach of Russia. Stayed at the Radisson Lushurnaya where there is a disco/strip club on the top floor and there are always five or so attractive ladies in the lobby in the evenings.
I chose a very fine red head and she offered full service for $300. After a few minutes I got her down to about $120 in roubles. In my room she made a quick stop in the bathroom and came out in a black corestte like outfit and went right to work. Initially she went right to head with a condom but then took it off once she sensed I was not feeling enough. Slipped it back on for an acrobatic perfomance. Incredibly worth the money!
Actually, with a little Russian you can just about guarantee some action out of the beachfront bars. Money is not required but you can be sure they prefer a western moneybags.
While there is nowhere obvious for street action, the main bus station does have low class working girls who had rooms nearby going for about $15 an hour and essentially you get what you pay for.
I happened to spend a long week-end in Sochi last month. I stayed in Radisson.
Rather than paying $100 the usual working girl from the hotel, I'd recommend going out to disco like "Planeta Sochi", hanging around and trying to engage conversation with locals. Being a foreigner and staying in Radisson has a magic effect on local girls (at least this is my guess, my being not particularly tall or young or nice looking). They will be open to "go for a walk" after disco. And if you propose one of her to end the night in your hotel room they will be more than happy to oblige.
I enjoyed there 3 days of pure delight with a magnificent local blonde, open to any sexual experience I would propose. She never asked any money. Of course I took charge of everything (restaurants, taxi, etc).
froggy, I've always been fascinated with the now former Soviet Union, especially the Black Sea areas where Soviet diplomats had dachas and other perks. What were the rates you spent for a room at the Radisson? What are the typical hours of the discos in Sochi? Did you perceive them (the local females) as being especially receptive to Americans? Also, did you in you your travels, see ANY black dudes there? How did you get there (what route did you take)? Being so geographically close to the Caucusus mountain range, was there NO threat (real or implied) of terrorist threats from that area? I've more questions, but I'll hold them off until I receive your answer.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sinanjumaster
[i]froggy, I've always been fascinated with the now former Soviet Union, especially the Black Sea areas where Soviet diplomats had dachas and other perks. What were the rates you spent for a room at the Radisson? What are the typical hours of the discos in Sochi? Did you perceive them (the local females) as being especially receptive to Americans? Also, did you in you your travels, see ANY black dudes there? How did you get there (what route did you take)? Being so geographically close to the Caucusus mountain range, was there NO threat (real or implied) of terrorist threats from that area? I've more questions, but I'll hold them off until I receive your answer. [/i][/QUOTE]
Nice handle!
-Bearded Clam
Samara:
Girls are available in the Hotel National, 800 rubles a pop, they hang out in the 2nd floor bar.
Kaluga: girls are available in the Hotel Kaluga, 3rd floor bar.
Kaluga is safer than the average city in the USA, for those who have heard horror stories.
Novosibirsk:
Went to Zvoni salon, a small apartment where girls were 400 rubles an hour (about $13 or so). Paid the driver 250 for the ride from the hotel and back.
After a few days here, it is obvious that Novosibirsk is the home of cheap sex provided by lovely Russian girls.
Explorer,
Obviously you are really into exploration:) Can you please give more specific information about these small cities you go to? How do you manage to find a salon in Novosibirsk, man? How do people react to you? Did you feel safe in that salon in Novosibirsk? How did the working girls react to you? How did you get by with your Russian? As far as I remember you are not fluent in Russian, right? Are you in the company of Russians or you are traveling alone? Any info you can post on provincial Russia will be greatly appreciated. There is almost no info out there and you keep posting these one sentence long messages. I am protesting :)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hedonist
[i]Explorer,
Obviously you are really into exploration:) Can you please give more specific information about these small cities you go to? How do you manage to find a salon in Novosibirsk, man? How do people react to you? Did you feel safe in that salon in Novosibirsk? How did the working girls react to you? How did you get by with your Russian? As far as I remember you are not fluent in Russian, right? Are you in the company of Russians or you are traveling alone? Any info you can post on provincial Russia will be greatly appreciated. There is almost no info out there and you keep posting these one sentence long messages. I am protesting :) [/i][/QUOTE]
Some answers:
I have limited Russian skills, and so could make out ads in the local newspapers, or on the Internet here. How do people react to me, they don't, you and I both look like Russians until we speak. As for safety in the salon, I felt much safer as an Explorer sandwich between two hot and sweaty Russian girls than I do walking down the street in Los Angeles.
I am traveling alone here in Siberia.
Here is a post I created for another site:
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As I headed into Saturday night, I decided to splurge a little bit, and try the Novisibirsk version of the TJ massage parlors, in fact, I decided to go for broke, and go for the most upscale MP I could find. After checking the local internet sites, I found a 2 girl special at what was describe as a Thai massage parlor. After talking to one of the girls at the parlor, it turned out that it was just a 10 or 15 minute walk from my hotel.
That 10 minutes ended up taking almost 2 hours, since the way the Russians number their houses, in fact the whole address scheme in Russia, is designed to confuse the enemy, and I was.
After much consternation, I was finally greeted at the MP's street entrance by a lovely young lady, and escorted up a half dozen flights of stairs to the MP itself, which was housed in a standard apartment. The decor was mixed Scandanavian and Asian, and Indian music played on the stereo. I was seated in what was probably the living room, and the hostess was seated in the same room, on a large couch across from me.
After some small talk (and trust me, with my Russian its just really small talk), we got down to business, the 2 girl/2 hour special was 1600 rubles ($60). Thinking back to what TJ MPs charge for similar services, I jumped on it. After the hostess grasped what I wanted, she brought a 2nd girl in (the hostess was Marina, the new girl was Vera), and stated that this was the whole package. Great.
I was asked to remove my clothing (since this was a living room, I wasn't too sure about this, but once Marina walked back into the room naked, I got the idea). I was shepherded into the bathroom, where a very large tub was being filled with soapy water. The idea was for me to get in the tub, and the two girls would stay outside of the tub but would work on me while I relaxed. And they did. Lots of rubbing and light touching under the soapy water.
Let me take a moment to reflect on the two girls. For some reason, Siberians are really big on French style girls (somewhat tall, very thin, small breasts), perhaps because they are the opposite of the stereotypical Russian woman. These two girls fit that type exactly; although this is not my favorite type, it will do in a pinch, and I was about to be pinched.
Next scene, I am being hosed down and dried off, and led into the bedroom, where the girls continued to dry me off with some very touching of a very light towel, and then the massage began. Those of you who have been to Thailand probably have realized by now that this was nothing like a Thai massage, but these weren't Thai women, either. The massage was basically the standard Russian masssage, lots of very hard rubbing, with some light touching in sensitive spots, as well. I noticed that one of the girls was getting pretty exerted from the rubbing, and had to rest from time to time. Still, having four hands over my body for over an hour was worth the flight from Moscow.
Then, the massage turned from hands to bodies, with the two girls alternating rubbing me with their chests. At this point, things got very interesting. They rolled me over, and the rubbing continued, with me taking advantage of whatever body part happened to rub my way. As much as I tried to hold on, I couldn't, and some girl got a load of me, at this point my eyes were closed, so I have no clue who got what.
That's supposed to be the end of the massage, but it wasn't. The two girls then got into cuddle mode, but it turned out that their intent was to provoke round two. This is where things got interesting again, because it reminded me of one of those movies where the good guy gets tempted by the devil with lithe naked women slithering around him. At this point, I realized that this massage was not to be confused with the TJ variety.
OK, just when I was ready to pounce on one of the girls, time was just about up, and I was led back into the bathroom. Here, one of the girls hosed me down while I stood in the tub, and then started rubbing me down below to see if she got a rise out of me. She did, but I was in no condition to actually finish anytime soon, and I let her know before she rubbed me into oblivion.
I was led back into the living room, and I got dressed while the ladies got me some tea. I ended up giving them each a nice 250 ruble tip (divide by 3 and you get the amount in pesos, divide by 32 and you get dollars). They were pleased, I was pleased, and it was out into the cold again.
Hi,
I planning to travel to Russia sometime during the next year for about three weeks to undertake cultural and sexual explorations. I already have been to Moscow. In this trip I will visit mainly provincial cities. My interest is not focused merely on Russian girls. I am really interested in Russia in general and I also study Russian language. I really want to see the life in provincial Russia, but in each city I want to explore local opportunities for fun like massage parlors, salons, nightclubs etc. Based on the posts on this board it seems that it will be a lot of fun to see cities like Samara, Voronezh, Novosibirsk etc. I might end up doing this trip alone like Explorer8939. But I think it is going to be much more fun and also safer to travel with a partner. If anybody gets interested he can write me at russophil@hotmail.com.
Explorer,
Thanks for the last post.
If you had to choose between Voronezh and Samara which one would you prefer? I don't think I will have enough time to visit both and need your recommendation on this. My criteria are quality of salons and possibilities of hunting in clubs.
Man, you are really fearless, you've gone all the way to Novosibirsk all alone, that's something now. Keep us posted! Good luck and have fun!
Neither Samara nor Voronezh has a really well developed mongering scene. However, Voronezh is probably a little cheaper, and easier for a newbie. Take the overnight train from Moscow, it gets there the next morning.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hedonist
[i]
If you had to choose between Voronezh and Samara which one would you prefer? [/i][/QUOTE]
Hitting the Jackpot
The prime reason for mongering in Novosibirsk is the supply of hot and cheap women, this is why the city is called the 'Bangkok of Russia'. Most of my adventures, however, ended up as what Russians call "VIP" mongering, ie upscale, and more expensive girls, sort of the Executive Massage of Novosibirsk.
Today, I decided to go downscale again, way downscale. I checked out the local newspaper, and found a salon that offered no frills, 400 ruble an hour girls (they don't say that in the paper, they just give a telephone number, and you have to work out the details over the phone). During any one telephone conversation, I generally understand about half of what I am told, so I usually get the gist of it. So, I was instructed to call the salon back when I got to a certain payphone at a certain address. The payphone was real easy to find, it was right at the street corner, the problem was that I didn't have the right card to pay for the phone call. So, off to the post office to buy a card. Except the cards weren't in the post office, they were in the telegraph office next door. Bummer. So, I bought the card, it cost 25 rubles or so, trudged back to the pay phone, called the salon, and some girl jabbered something at me that sounded like "I am coming to get you", so I told her I would wait, and I did. Within 5 minutes some girl showed up and told me to follow her, a good thing because I was just about a minute away of dying from the cold.
OK, it turned out that the salon was half a block from the address given for the pay phone, they were clever, since the people in the salon could monitor the phone from quite a distance away. After some trudging, I entered the salon, which was just another apartment, and was welcomed by a group of girls. I was ushered into a rather sparse bedroom, and the woman in charge of operations started talking to me in Russian, but using words I didn't understand. As is normal, I was able to resolve the issue by asking questions using words I understood. So, the deal was 400 rubles an hour.
In walked 3 girls for me to choose from, 2 were so-so, one was maybe a 6 or 7. I chose the 7, who seemed rather reluctant to participate, she was sort of hiding in the doorway. After the usual shower, the girl (Alexandra) walked into the room wearing a robe, and off came the robe, and I realized that the girl wasn't a 7 she was at least an 8, maybe a 9, about 5 foot 5 inches, very large breasts, only the hint of widening at the hips, very tight, and had the common Siberian tanned look.
I am finding out that the Russian hooker playbook is somewhat limited, they either know how to do an initial massage and then whip on the condom, or they skip the massage to put on the condom, either way, the condom gets on real fast. OK, for $13 who am I to complain? After an extended CBJ, she mounted me, and began an extended up and down, during which I considered the possibility of my having a hip displacement.
So, we changed positions, I put her on her back with her legs in the air. This one didn't have the longest legs, but was very flexible, she could extend her legs sideways to the point that I could barely touch them.
Then, it was sideways, she was on her back still, but one leg to the side, and the other straight up, so that I could hold onto the leg for some traction. This was the position that got me. Normally, I would have held out for more, but for $13, what the hell. So, I feel backwards onto the bed, and began asking her about her background, it turns out that she was from some small city some distance away from Novosibirsk, and was just in town for a couple of months to pick up some cash.
After that, I showered, and gave her a 200 ruble tip, which she acted like she had never seen before. I mentioned an interest in going to a sauna the next day, and that seemed to get her all excited (ie, getting another big tip), this provoked a flurry of activity as the other girls scurried to get info on nearby saunas. OK, having the info on hand I said 'hasty banana', and was out into the cold again.
If you're ever in Novosibirsk, call 11-05-24, and ask for Alexandra, you will get your 400 rubles worth.
Explorer,
I am very glad that you are enjoying yourself there. I think I'll take your advice and visit Voronezh next time I'm in Russia. You said that Voronezh and Samara don't have a well developed mongering scene. Are there at least salons in Voronezh? Did you see telephone numbers in the local papers? I remember your postings about various saunas. But sauna on a daily basis might dry my skin :)
Plenty of girls advertising in the Voronezh local newspaper, just a telephone number, though. Also, don't forget that the Hotel Brno provides girls at 700 rubles an hour, right to your hotel room.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hedonist
[i]Explorer,
I am very glad that you are enjoying yourself there. I think I'll take your advice and visit Voronezh next time I'm in Russia. You said that Voronezh and Samara don't have a well developed mongering scene. Are there at least salons in Voronezh? Did you see telephone numbers in the local papers? I remember your postings about various saunas. But sauna on a daily basis might dry my skin :) [/i][/QUOTE]
Novosibirsk salon info:
http://www.zvoni.org
59-85-51
Girls are 400 rubles an hour, the dispatcher gets a one time 250 ruble donation.
I forgot to mention that girls at the hotel are 500 rubles an hour, about $16 or $17, if you can afford it.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Explorer8939
[i]Kaluga: girls are available in the Hotel Kaluga, 3rd floor bar.
Kaluga is safer than the average city in the USA, for those who have heard horror stories. [/i][/QUOTE]
Explorer,
Last night I was drinking a Chilean wine made by Concha y Toro called Xplorador. It reminded me of you... I hope Russia is treating you well.
I have a question for you. How did you arrange the banyas in Voronezh? Did you walk in or call them in advance? If you did the latter then how did you get by with your novice Russian? If you can shed some light on how to arrange a banya session I would appreciate it very much. I suppose everyday is a holiday for you, but anyways I wish you happy holidays!
Oh no! I have to go to Kaliningrad! The black hole of Russia! I hope it doesn't swallow me up and spit me out into the Baltic Sea...
...anybody have any experience here, or can recommend a hotel, maybe with lobby girls?
I am not in to lobby girls at all normally, for the obvious reasons, but I won't have time to do any exploring in Kaliningrad and from what I understand there is nothing to look at anyway.
Thanks for any help...
I just showed up at the sauna (not a banya) and tried to make myself understood by the ladies running the place.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hedonist
[i]
I have a question for you. How did you arrange the banyas in Voronezh? Did you walk in or call them in advance? If you did the latter then how did you get by with your novice Russian? If you can shed some light on how to arrange a banya session I would appreciate it very much. I suppose everyday is a holiday for you, but anyways I wish you happy holidays! [/i][/QUOTE]
Explorer,
Thanks for your reply about Voronezh.
How many days should I allocate for Voronezh in your opinion?
I know can't doesn't compare to Moscow, but still I want to check it out. I will definitely visit the two saunas that you recommended and some salons and report on this board. ***** mongering is good, but I enjoy picking up regular girls in clubs or during the day. What are my chances for such activity in Voronezh?
Have you been to Club Flamingo? Would this be a good venue for meeting nice girls?
Jak,
In Former USSR, Black Sea, both Russian and Ukraine region, was fun and best place to find free sex.
In the summer a lot of women, most them not pro, came here to look for fun and sex.
I don’t know situation now. In any case, you need good Russian friends to go there because you can become easy target for criminals who also like these places very much.
Hedonist:
Voronezh is a small city, 3 days would be a push there. The trick is to take the overnight train from Moscow, get there in the AM, book yourself a room at the Hotel Brno, relax a bit, head for the saunas, and take it from there.
Club Flamingo is the bar for the casino attached to Hotel Brno. There used to be strip shows there, now its more like the local high school dance hall. I guess with enough patience you might find some available local talent, but you can't get them into your hotel room, so why bother.
There is a nice sauna under the casino, BTW.
Explorer
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hedonist
[i]Explorer,
How many days should I allocate for Voronezh in your opinion?
I know can't doesn't compare to Moscow, but still I want to check it out. I will definitely visit the two saunas that you recommended and some salons and report on this board. ***** mongering is good, but I enjoy picking up regular girls in clubs or during the day. What are my chances for such activity in Voronezh?
Have you been to Club Flamingo? Would this be a good venue for meeting nice girls? [/i][/QUOTE]
Explorer:
Did you test Hotel Brno's policy about bringing in guests? I remember you telling that they have their own working girls in the hotel. But don't you think if I book a double room and/or bribe the doorman, they will let me bring in guests? I will definitely try the two saunas but I am not that fond of ***** mongering. I was hoping that I would be able to pickup regular girls in clubs and bring them to my hotel. Are you positive that Hotel Brno doesn't allow guests?
Please let me know. I was about to make reservations. Your input is very much appreciated.
Explorer:
Can you email me the link to that other message board that you were posting about Russia. I was thinking maybe I should check it out.
My email is russophil@hotmail.com.
Thanks!
Hotel guest policies are very strict. Unless you are sufficiently fluent in Russian to argue with security guards, don't plan on bringing outside girls into any Russian hotel. Of course, the American owned hotels in Moscow are the expensive exception.
Hi,
I'm interested in going to Russia and Novosibirsk seems like a great option (in the middle of nowhere, lots of poor desperate girls etc.) and I was wondering if anyone has any information about the city?
How are the local (normal) girls like? Will they crazy about you because you're a Westener?
Lithium,
Yes, Novosibirsk is nice, and there are lots of girls willing to spread for you. You can get in a taxi and cruise down one street -- I forget the name, but if you let him know you want girls, he will take you -- but make sure you can bring her back to your hotel. I had a hell of a time, and had to go rent a room somewhere else to enjoy what I had found.
Also, check the papers for "dosug" or salons. I spent two hours with a top blonde model for less than $40
Michaelgage
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lithium
[i]Hi,
I'm interested in going to Russia and Novosibirsk seems like a great option (in the middle of nowhere, lots of poor desperate girls etc.) and I was wondering if anyone has any information about the city?
How are the local (normal) girls like? Will they crazy about you because you're a Westener? [/i][/QUOTE]
Michael,
Thanks for the information! But I'm also curious on the attitudes of normal women towards Westeners, are they really keen and desperate to get down with one or are they arrogant and cold?
And did you find any nice cheap hotels?
Yes, they like americans, and are open to talk to you.. I always enjoy seducing teenagers in the pizza parlors or coffee shops. You can have alot of fun that way. Try the pubs, too, and discos.
Hotels are cheap in novosibirsk as a general rule.
MichaelGage
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lithium
[i]Michael,
Thanks for the information! But I'm also curious on the attitudes of normal women towards Westeners, are they really keen and desperate to get down with one or are they arrogant and cold?
And did you find any nice cheap hotels? [/i][/QUOTE]
Hi guys!
I'll be making a short business trip to Moscow and Smolensk in june.
Can anybody give me any details about the scene in Smolensk?
Is there any action going on there? Where can it be found? What hotel should I stay at? What are the going rates to get some action?
Any information would be great guys!
Thanks in advance!
I will be in Irkutsk for a couple of nights. Can anybody give ne details of brothels, SW, massage parlours, etc.?
Does anybody got any information on Ekaterineburg Samara Rostov on don?
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hotels
Pick up joints
Call girl numbers
brothels
Anything really
Hello,
Thank You for this excellent Forum
Do anyone have any experiences with cities in the north part of Russia, Murmansk, and other cities in Kola peninssula and around the White sea.
Thanks
Skylink
I've been invited by a local to visit Tambov, Lipetsk, Voronezh in July. Voronezh has been documented fairly well in it's section, but does anyone have any info on Tambov or Lipetsk?
Some info on Novosibirsk.
Two sites: www.intinsfera.ru and www.****.ru (this one is the best). They inform about at least one English speaking girl, Juli.
Also call 925183 ask about English speaking girl. The price for Russians in Novosibirsk is 400 - 550 rubles (12 - 15 bucks). Good luck
[QUOTE]Originally posted by balabon38
[i]Some info on Novosibirsk.
Two sites: www.intinsfera.ru and www.****.ru (this one is the best). [/i][/QUOTE]
Hi balabon38, can not get both sites, too bad. Could you post it again? Did you try this site www.zvoni.org? Sounds a good deal.
Will be visiting Vladikavkaz, Noth Osettia- Alania several times during september until December. Have not been able to get any information about what's available. Would appreciate info as where to stay. what to look for and how to find any action. This location comes up with zero on the internet. I've been told that there are exceptional opportunites in Vladikavkaz but my Russian language is minimal, and i've been told that Alanian is even more complicated. No problem with mature woman. Thanks in advance for your help. northseattle.
Hi, I will be making a big tour around Eastern Europe, Russia.
planning to stay in any other town that might be worth a visit. I am looking to get in touch with some locals who can also speak English or German, who have good communicative skills trying to make some money or find a new well paid job. Please get in touch with me or perhaps you can give me a referal of someone trustworthy who might be able to help me out in some of those towns finding some young girls, uni students, semi pros etc,
puxilove@hotmail.com
Hello all!
I am looking for information on traveling to Barnaul. I am also interested in ways to save as much money on flights as possible. I am sure that when I do go, it will be an expensive flight. Has anyone ever flown as a courier? Not just to Russia but other places in the world?
Mulligan Stew
I tried flying as a courier once when I went to Brazil. It cost me $350 for round trip to Sao Paulo from Miami. Of course there's a catch. they don't give you the return ticket, because they're afraid you'll sell it. Yeah right, like I'm going to stay in Sao Paulo for the rest of my life and never return to the USA!
So they tell me that on my return, to come a few hours early and wait by the ticket counter for the freight company's errand boy to meet me and he'll have my ticket. So I wait and wait, watching everyone else check in and board, and I'm asking the guy at the counter if he knows anything about courier tickets, and naturally they know nothing. Hours go by and I start to freak out cause the plane's leaving in 15 minutes and ten minutes later he finally shows up. I do an O.J. Simpson through security and am the last one to board.
The other catch is that you can't check a suitcase, you can only carry on a bag. when I went, it was before 9/11, so I had scissors and other prohibited stuff that you can't carry on anymore. You can save a chunk of money, but there's always a catch!
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Does anyone know if there is any action in Vladivostok?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mulligan Stew
[i]Hello all!
Has anyone ever flown as a courier? Not just to Russia but other places in the world?
Mulligan Stew [/i][/QUOTE]
I have taken at least ten courier flights for five years, from New York City to destinations like Brazil, Singapore, and Europe, but that was before 9/11 event. I used to be a member of International Association of Air Travel Couriers. You do not have to be a member of this association to travel as a courier.
Nowadays, Jupiter still "hires" couriers for a few destinations. Try http://www.jupiterair.com/courierflgt.htm and good luck with that. I am sure there will be other companies too.
I agree with all of what Mangus Man said and that there is a catch! In my case, I got used to those "catches" after a couple of flights. BTW, I never paid over $150 for any flight anywhere, because I picked my flight and the destination a day earlier. Sometimes, even the companies would call at my work and would ask me to fly to some place the next day for free. Magnus Man must have booked his flight atleast a couple of weeks earlier and that cost way more. Oh yeah, they would fly me first class on some occassions. No wonder, my ticket was the highest paid airfare. ($2,000-$8,000)
I hope this helps.
Jose Marcia,
Now that I think more about it, I probably did pay less than $350 for my courier ticket, it was probably more like $260 or something. But I couldn't wait until the last minute like you, because to get my tourist visa ($90) at the consulate office, I had to show my plane ticket to get the Visa. And I had to wait 2 weeks to get an appointment to get the Visa. Always the catch!
I still saved a CHUNK of cash, which of course I blew on my garota de program at the Kiltch boite in Sao Paulo. A good suggestion to go there from my hotel bellboy. I was glad to let her empty my wallet. She spoke no English at all, so all 3 hours were spent exploring every orifice of her tan blond perfect 18 year old juiciness, with only the sound of her talking dirty in Portugese. She had absolutely no mileage on her, and she was lovin' it big time. I think she should have paid me!
She really relaxed me, which I needed, because the flight TO Brazil was not any fun either.
At the Miami airport, there were 3 flights that evening. They told me to get there at 2:00 in the afternoon, and then they just had me wait around, so THEY could get the cheapest ticket. I forget the name of the better Brazilian airline, but I watched that flight, ( was it Varig?), and then a United flight leave, and at 9:00 they said ok buddy you're on Air Brazil or some piece of crap airline, and my seat was in the back of a full flight, with guess what, smoking permitted!
Hey, guess where ALL the smoke goes? It really sucked!
Can anybody recommend a hotel in Ekaterineburg girl friendly
Pavlohh
Last January I stayed at the Atrium Palace. It was Midnight when I arrived and so I asked the Guy at reception if he could get me a girl in 30 minutes he was at my door with 3 stunners. I picked the best one spent two hours with her. Total cost $50 usd including tip. I wiil be going back 2 Oct. I will keep you posted.
Zdravo,
I am looking for information on ladies in the Volgograd area. I have no experience in Russia or language.
Any nearby cities that might offer me the perverted pleasures?
Hobo
Irkutsk - "The Paris of Siberia". Like most Siberian cities (except Vladivostok and Khabarovsk) the price of women is considerably lower than in Moscow and St Pete. A recent sojourn out to meet some friends in Siberia found me sneaking off into the evening to sample the hookerage in this laid back city.
The best way to find working girls in Irkutsk is to buy locally published papers in the news stands. Often the primary function of there is to sell second hand goods, but there is inevitably a section for ladies of the night.
I was staying with a girlfriend so I couldnt exactly bring a working girl back home, so I had to make sure I asked for one who had premises to shag in. You can do this by stipulating "apartamenti" in your best russian accent during negotiations. It was 10pm by the time I got away from my girlfriend and found a phone to call some numbers I had circled from the paper. I was sent out to the "Aeroport" hotel at Irkutsk Airport. Right in front of the hotel entrance was a russian car (lada or zhiguli) with a guy in front and 3 girls in the back. I wasnt sure if that was the car for me, but as I began to walk over, two other guys approached the car, negotiated with the driver, paid over some cash and the three girls got out and stood facing the two guys. They picked the best 2 and disappeared into the hotel, with the girls they had picked and with the driver. The driver reappeared 10 seconds later and sat back in the car with the remaining girl. I then wandered over and began my negotiations.
One hour, including a room at the zero star "Aeroport Hotel" was 400 rubles. A whopping 12 bucks. Unfortunately, I was left with the least of the three girls initially sat in the car. The driver accompanied us into the "lobby" (if you can call it that) of the Hotel and slipped the night porter 100 rubles. He then took us up to the room. The room was soviet. No other way to describe it. A single bed and black and white TV in the main chambre, while a rusty bathtub with leaky taps in the other.
I do like to chat to the dyevs before indulging their services so we talked for about 10 minutes before she went in to the rusty bath tub for a "top n tails" shower. She was 19, and from a village about 250kms outside Irkutsk. She had a top body (as you would expect from a 19 year old) but a bit of a duck-face. She spoke zero English. I asked her how much of the 400 rubles she got, and she told me 100. So that means the split goes 100 for the night porter, 100 for the ***** and 200 for the pimp. Now earning 100 rubles for a shag is pretty low, but this was Siberia.
Unfortunately gentlemen, as she had a duck face and as she was not enthusiastic about her work, it was not one of those occasions that lends itself to "gentleman's photography", so I have nothing visual to offer.
Roger:
Thank God, there is someone knowing Irkutsk! After reading your post, I guess that you speak quite decent Russian, and have some friends in the city. Could you share some your local friends (guys are fine, girls are welcome LOL) contact information with me? Somebody wants to hang out with a guy from the windy city. I’m looking for an apartment in downtown area. Can I find one bedroom with some furniture for $150-300/month in Irkutsk?
STC-1,
My Russian is ok - good enough to get by you might say. Good enought to read a classified advert regarding ladies of the night and have a basic conversation with the woman on the other end of the phone.
As for Irkutsk, you wont meet that many foreigners there, unless you go to the 2 main hotels in town. One is the Intourist hotel by the river, and the other is called (I think) the Angara. They have cash machines and bars where you might find some westerners.
All of my contacts in Irkutsk are now female and know me only as a respectable foreign businessman who they happen to sleep with every now and again. That makes it impossible to introduce anyone to them unfortunately.
I can suggest though if you are there for any length of time, that you pay a visit to the foreign languages intitute in the centre of town. Its part of the university. English language is studied almost exclusively by females 17-20. Most of whom you will find are attractive, some obscenely so. Offer to help out with some classes - a bit of native speaker pronounciation - for an afternoon or two.
Finally, I have no idea how much apartment rental is in Irkutsk, but I would guess you would be able to get something in that price range. How long are you there for?
Roger:
Thanks for the reply. I will be there about 6-8 months. People said that Russia is unfriendly for the minority, and I heard about some bad news, but what a hell! I’ve been couple of S.A counties with guerrilla wars. Hopefully there are no skinheads in Irkutsk.
Tomcat
What sort of minority?
I think some of the stories are exaggerated.
Anyone with info on Novgorod? The old one not the 3rd largest city in Russia.
Hi All, Does anyone know about the stip clubs and lap dances in Irkutsk or any of the other towns? Prices etc? Thanks
I was just on a business trip to Irkutsk and can recommend the Intourist hotel for strip and more (I think that might be the old name, although everyone still uses it. I think it's called the Hotel Baikalsk now).
There's a bar in the basement with a strip show and lap dancing. Room service at the hotel was good to. You got the usual calls up to your room asking if you'd like "to spend time pleasurably in the company of a girl," but you could also the guards on the security desk on the left as you walk in. In about half an hour they'll bring up about five girls for you to choose from for 1500 rubes (fifty bucks) an hour.
I was actually overpaying and the price should have been 1200 a Russian friend I was there with told me - I'm not a great haggler. The girls were 8-9 and a lot of fun, easy-going. In the bar downstairs there was also a rich selection. I speak good Russian, so I'm not sure how easy all this would have been in English.
And be warned. There's a sign in English on every floor offering a 'special massage.' It may be 'special', but it's no good for our purposes (unless you've got a bad back or something).
I am travelling to Samara soon.
Anybody have hotel recomendations with some action?
BTW I was in Rostov on Don recently and a good hotel with plenty of girls is Mr. X centrally located.
p... there's a new Marriott that just opened in Samara. I assume that it like all Marriotts are girl friendly.
I have just hooked up with a girl from Chelyabinsk. She wants me to visit her in February. Me being me, I don't go thousands of miles to see just 1 girl. Does anyone know the scene there.
I would most appreciate income level, and places of opportunity. I prefer picking them at bars and other places, and pay expenses rather than cash. (costs more actually!)
I am thinking about taking the trans siberian railway from Moscow to Novosibirsk. I think it takes about 4 days. Can anyone give any feedback on such a plan? It would surely be nice to find something to keep me busy on the train too:) Has anyone had any success "bangin' on the train"?
Mulligan
Hi guys,
I want to go from S.Pete to Novgorod,who of you was there?
I saw in net prices are really cheap!
So what can be there about regular and not regular woman?:O)
I thank you all in advance,
Luca
Does anyone know if there is any action in Krasnodar?
Thanks in advance...
Hello!
I have to go to Kazan, Perm and Yoshkar-Ola in May (never been in Russia before). Does anyone have some information about girls/clubs/prices/etc. in these areas?
Thanks,
Thomas
Anyone have any info on action in Tula?
Does anybody knows something about Nihzny Novgorod?
SAMARA: Was not able to solve the riddles in Samara. Stayed at the new Renaissance ($240 net) and had to settle for home delivery. Security guards are friendly and take their end from the gross. Net transaction $50 for a girl to your room for one hour - pay him, then tip her. Problem - they are not hot - why bother? Beat, C-league, not sexy or cute! Tried to work the scene in the centre. Despite the previous post from somebody, there were NO girls at the hotel national. You need a proposk to enter if you are a non-resident and after fighting with the bastard and threatening him in my usual way, I go to both 2nd and 3rd floors -empty. NONE of the taxi drivers are a help. One strip club - dead 500 pp to enter. They call the Salons and you cannot go there. You must wait in the taxi in some freezing parking lot forever and a car shows up with two to four ugly girls. You refuse, and everybody goes home. There are NO on-sale establishments: massage parlours, VIP saunas, ***** houses (that I found) where you could actually go someplace and choose. No, you must call and wait around and then something lame arrives. By the way, I have seen the pics that some of you have posted and they are 99% DOGS so maybe this Samara scene is okay for the uglies-only US/UK sod. Also worked the club scene (four clubs) and got one HOT 17 year old's number. Trying to fly her to Moscow for a weekend but did not close anything.
Out.
kk... I was going to thank you for your report on Samara because it added to the knowledge base here... However, for someone that has only posted ONCE on WSG to blast the people that have taken time to post reports and photos over the past years has a lot of class... unfortunately it is all LOW!
It is important to remember here and in life that "one person's trash is another person's treasure!"
Now, OTOH, we will all be anxious for you to post your girls and your vast experience on WSG, just so we can get a bearing on your appreciation of beauty. I would even be interested in having a reference to the 1% on WSG that you don't consider to be a dog!
CA Traveller,
Is this site for real-life "information" or has it become your social life? Sorry your feeling were hurt, all that hard work loggings pics and things. With 235 posts, you have got too much time on your hands.
kk... Obviously I struck a nerve with you after my posting and insignificant reprimand of your slam of all the photos of girls that members have posted. Since you are a regular member it will take some time for your anticipated knee-jerk reaction to be posted, I will save some time and offer up to the forum, the intelligent comments that you blasted out to me in three rapid fire PMs...
1. don't get your feelings hurt
Listen up sissie boy and don't get your feelings hurt. Nobody cares about all your 300 posts and your frail ego or your fantasy about romance with some third tier prostitute. Cry and complain to your boyfriend. You pretty clearly have way too much time on your hands. This website is not "your friend", it is a tool. Use it and shut up.
2. FYI: forward to moderator
FYI:
Dear Moderator,
I do not understand this girlie short-hand and abbreviation "chat room" language. What does OTOH mean?
3. Kremlin King
badge of honour
And before you start mewling back some self-righteous reply please consider that your pathetic badge of honour (399 posts or whatever) screams and clear to all who read: LOSER! LONER! FAILURE! Quantitative PROOF that you are a home computer spank artist. Just because you can hide behind your PC tonight, doesn’t mean that you aren’t still the kid that was picked last for everything. I would even bet that you are bald and fat, so don’t waste another second of my time with this sniveling drivel.
kk... It is always interesting to me to watch how someone deals with conflict... Personally, I find that an intelligent person will discuss an issue in a coherent manner, even if he strongly disagrees with the other's point-of-view with the objective of either winning the other over or, in the worst case, reaching some kind of mutual understanding.
I will also suggest that in a heated discussion, typically, one's intellect is reflected in how quickly it takes for an argument to become one of name calling and insults.
kk... you have set a record time with your rapid descent into name calling and insults.
From this point on, I will no longer waste any keystrokes to respond to you either in the forum or PM.
So, I will wish you the best of luck in the future with all of your extended worldwide travels. I will look forward to your future postings and photos demonstrating your high standard of beauty.
Kremlin King:
Here's another DOG for you...
DOCTOR... Please stop posting all of these bow-bow photos... Get some class and start posting some beautiful women and not those that you had to tie a T-bone steak around your neck to entice them to talk to you! :)
Here's some more puupy chow for King Krammit.
Bone Appetite' !
Ok, so I can't spell puppy.
Does anyone really care?
I can't figure out how to crop either, though in this case, dog-face kind of applies, and I did you all a favor, TRUST ME !!!
Actually, do you ever notice how some of the tom-boy types' faces look a bit too much like some guy NAMED TOM ? Hell, with tits like these, does anyone really care. I just covered my eye sockets with her protruberances and banged away, as any monger would.
Have a nice lay!
Petropavlovsk,
Anyone have any info on mongering scene in this NE Russia cross from Alaska place.
Will be there June 28- June 30th
Hello Gentlemen,
Some of you know the scene in Novgorod,few hour south by train from Piter? Possible to find there beautiful normal women easy to pick up? Some suggest?
Thank you very much.
bye,
Luca
Hello Everybody,
Anyone has any news regarding SOCHI, a great summer place in Krasnador area? Would appreciate latest details.
T F E
Kaliningrad info: Click on nightlife in the orange box. Sounds like a lot of fun! This sight is good for Russia, Baltic and Eastern Europe. Looking forward to a full report.
http://www.inyourpocket.com/russia/kaliningrad/en/
Kaliningrad: Click on by night in the orange box. Sounds like a top destination.
Most night life options in the city seem geared toward a bachelor party mentality. Yes, that means all the elements for a debauched evening are in place. So waking up with the feeling that someone placed a small puppy in your mouth and someone's phone number written in lipstick on your arm are more than just a small possibility. People with strong feminist views on the objectification of woman should know that a night out in Kaliningrad is your worst nightmare. For everyone else that doesn't mind a bit of politically incorrect sleaze in dens infested with cigarette smoke, we suggest you dive right in as most places know how to keep the masses happy - plenty of drink, food and naked women. If disrobers and draniki aren't your idea of necessities for fun, we suggest you hang out in a restaurant or café.
Concerning my question about Krasnodar, I can answer it myself. The information may be useful for others going to less popular places.
I stayed in the hotel Moscow on the 5th floor. (There is one other big hotel in Krasnodar, the Intourist which probably functions the same way).
First night I went out looking for action but I knew I wasn't going to find any in this backwater. I had expected one or two ladies in the hotel lobby when I got back but there was no-one. I was mentally prepared for a celibate nine days.
When I got back to my floor, the floor lady asked me if I wanted a madame and pointed to the bar (each floor has one). I went to go in but was badly threatened by a very drunk Russian with two of his friends and girl friends. There was no-one else there so I went to my room wondering what on earth the floor lady had been referring to. There is no such word in Russian.
The next night I took a drink in this bar before I went to bed. There were three girl-friends sitting around a table but none smiled or made eye-contact. So I went to bed. At 23.45, the phone went and a female voice asked me if I wanted a pretty girl. I said yes and within 5 mins, these same three girls were being paraded in from of me. Bliss. Just RR1500 for one hour (about Euro 43). At that price I had one girl a night and on the last night, I took one for two hours. I was binged out, except that the more I get the more I want. I didn't wait for the phone call after the first night, I just went into the bar and ordered one; even ordered one particular girl by asking the floor lady to call her out.
These Russian girls are stunning and they do an awful lot more than their Dutch counterparts for the money (I live in Holland). I had only one really bad egg. She was only 20, the only one who looked like a hooker but just wasn't interested. The rest were all up for it. Interestingly, none of them understood about a hand-job. When I asked them for a second-coming with the hand + oil (which I supplied), they were really surprised. Clearly not in their culture. It was straight back to oral and a second round as the first.
So thanks to Ira, Dasha, Natasha and friends. Hopefully, not to long til the next time.
I LOVE RUSSIA..........
Nice report Leo.
Brother welcome home.
We all love her, she, big country,
mother country. Love her we do!
Please step up now.
You could be very helpful if...
you can share info on how to
get to, and from, Krasno,
ticket cost and how long
to arrive. Curious what
work took you there?
Of course, you could
be very generous by...
sharing viewable sexual
camera image photos of
InaLenaDashaNatahsagirls
that you know we know
you have, you know?
Da vay. Time to
post-ski the pic-skis!
Now moy sabaka!
Kaliningrad:
Am now leaving Kaliningrad for St.Pete after a two night stay on business.
Kaliningrad is not a legitimate mongering destination...whatever that means. :) Not for lack of cute girls and a second world economy... but geographically it is impractical. Kaliningrad... for those who don't know, is located in a little sliver of land sandwiched between Poland and Lithuania on the Baltic sea coast. There are about 1.2 million people living in the area, about 450,000 in the city itself. It is Russia...but then again not really. It is not physically connected with the rest of Russia and is not easily accessible by plane, train, bus or car. Aeroflot and Pulkovo fly there from Moscow and St.Pete respectively. I think there are flights from Poland as well. So if you are looking for a provincial Russian mongering destination, you'd likely find places like Ekaterinburg, Chelyabinsk etc. more interesting.
If you do happen to be there it is likely on business and if you are there, it can be a great place to meet women of flexible values and variable moral standards.
I have been there twice, both times staying at Hotel Dona. I don't have a point of reference as I haven't stayed in any other hotels, but I found Dona to be quaint and girl-friendly, although the girl I took home was a regular girl and looked clean and classy... they might react differently to a skanky looking pro. I also made a point of chatting up the girls working the desk and establishing a friendly relationship. In the same building as Dona there is a restaurant called "Dolce Vita" with average tasting cuisine but a nice atmosphere. No pros working the restaurant bar or hotel though.. it is small (about 12 rooms) and caters to Russian and German tourists and businessmen. Rooms 86 euro a night...which considering the fact that K-grad is a relatively cheap place is quite high.
If anybody has info on pros working any of the other larger hotels like the Lukoil owned "Komandor" or the soviet style "Hotel Kaliningrad" kindly report.
Following Sam2004's advice I went to "Planeta" on Sunday night. As is it turned out, I had actually been there before but had forgotten the name. It is an entertainment complex with a pizzeria, a restaurant, game room, casino and night club. The pizzeria is crawling with young women... including a noticeably high percentage of blondes... was very active considering that I was there on a Sunday and Monday night. Word of caution though, most girls seemed to have boyfriends. On two occassions I was just about to make my move and sit next to some girls and chat them up when their meathead boyfriends showed up.
Russian guys under 25 in K-grad all wear the same uniforms... the kind of wanna-be mafia dress popular in Moscow in the early 90's... either jeans with black leather jackets and shaved heads or a track suit with trainers. Laughable to look at, but tough as hell in a fight.
The night club in the Planeta complex opens at midnight and costs 50-100 rubles entrance depending on the night. On the Sunday I was there it was about 75% full... very good for a Sunday. Lots of cute girls, about 3 girls for every guy. There are strippers dancing constantly, although in lingerie and not completely nude. If you sit next to their dancing platform you can get a great view of their snatch. Strippers very very cute on the nights I was there... one of them was incredibly sexy... 5 foot tall, six pack abs, red hair and slightly Asian-looking slavic eyes. The strippers disappeared after their shows though, no chance to talk to them or chat them up.
Everything is cheap in Kgrad...beer 30-40 rubles for half a liter, vodka-O 45 rubles.
Curiously enough, I didn't "detect" any pros in Planeta. I spoke to at least 10 girls... all students. None of them even hinted at pro action.
On my first night I met a very cute red head named Anja with wild mane-like "big" hair and a hot bod... semi-see through white top barely concealing biggish tits and wearing tight jeans that accentuated her firm perky ass. I simply walked up to her and started chatting away in Russian before she switched to English, she had lived in New York for 4 months. Soon her girlfriends came over and everybody was excited and somewhat bewildered that I was American. Very rare in Kgrad. We got cozy on the couch and I started groping her a bit and as it got late I proposed we go back to my apartment... it was 4th and goal and I got stopped just short of the goal line... but she agreed to meet me the next day.
So Sunday I struck out... she left with her girlfriends and less than 45 seconds later I was chatting up the next dyev, a leggy 20-year old blonde with glasses named Dasha... student of course. It was 4am and she left soon thereafter with her girlfriend who seemed tired and bored and a bit angry... she had eyed me all night and now I was hitting on her friend... but the blonde came running back a minute later and stuffed her phone number and e-mail address into my pocket. Maybe I'll call her next time. At that point I left for the hotel, which was a ten minute walk. Desperately horny I started hitting on the young student hotel receptionist and told her to come to my room. I was really kind of out of control... she denied me as well citing that she would lose her job. She seemed even apologetic about it. It was very entertaining for me... :)
But I still hadn't gotten laid! :(
Monday I met Anja in the evening and we went to Zaria, a nice restaurant/bar. Within 5 minutes we were making out and about an hour later we went to my hotel, stopping at the restaurant bar for a drink... we then cruised by the hotel desk and went to my room and got down to business. Wasn't my best performance ever but I had a massive load built up and shot it down her throat
after a multi-position session in which I had to switch positions often to avoid cumming too soon. I have never had a Russian girl deny me fucking her in the mouth to finish... seems to be par for the course in Russia and I am becoming addicted to it.
Shortly afterwards she left for home, not wanting to cause to much strife with her parents. I was happy to see her go... I was relieved of my load and could now go out to the disco.
I seem to be specializing on shortish girls with big hair, big tits and full but firm asses. Shos will remember Zhenya from Moscow and some of the other guys might remember Masha from Moscow... Anja was the same breed but even cuter.
At the disco again I immediately chatted up a skinny angelic blonde, only to learn that she was married to a customs officer. Ouch. I chatted with her and her 2 friends for about 2 hours in Russian and one of the friends was very interested, but I wasn't. She had a great body... like most young Russian dyevs... but an average face and I was both tired and fucked out so I left...with a collection of phone numbers should I need some action in Kgrad sometime.
Notes:
Restaurants:
My recommendations for Kgrad include the restaurant "Zaria"... very nice and upscale. If you want to impress a date, take her there. It is located in a complex with a movie theatre. Address unknown, but taxis will know.
Taxis:
No gypsy (street) taxis in Kgrad BTW... only official ones. But all destinations seem to cost 50 rubles.
Internet:
Internet cafe... the only one I could find... is out of the way. Called Kyber Club (Cyber Club) and located on Komsomolskaya Ulitsa 91. No prob by taxi though.
Police (militsia):
No hassles whatsoever... not omnipresent like in Pitr or Moscow.
Pros:
I didn't meet any pros at Planeta..any info on pros in Kgrad greatly appreciated... help us out guys!
I am going to Anapa and Novorossiisk in late May. Any info for me re girls there anybody?
DR SHANK
Very interested in what you wrote on Kal.
Actually, you had fun. Sorry, that Planeta didn´t work out that easily.
Will be travelling to Odessa in 1 month. Any information ´bout that destination?
London Calling!
Don't forget to post the Novo dyevs!
This is Sarah, poor quality photos, I apologize.
Also, these poses do no justice, I'll try to get her back, you will like her ass I guarrantee it. This girl has seen miles and miles of dick, but the back of her throat is still pretty nice. She's kookie, likes to joke around about nasty stuff.
From these photos you wouldn't think she's anything special, so its not right for me to comment, unless I get another chance to take some better pics. I will make a respectable (is there such thing) monger's effort to do so!
Joking around.
Like I said, poor quality I know.
Ass crack for now, hopefully tar star next time.
Please please, I'm finally counting down under 30 days, after which there won't be ANYMORE quality issues.
Sarah again.
sam2004,
hi mate!
in regards to kgrad, planeta did work out just fine for me... the girl i screwed there then actually met me again in st.pete 2 days later as she was applying for a new visa to go to the us for 4 months... the us would be lucky to have her...
speaking to her, she also said that planeta and cafe zaria and a place called andrei (sp.?)are really about the best places in kgrad. i'm not a kgrad expert... i have only spent 4 nights there, but i find it strangely attractive in the sense that there aren't many places to go at night ... so the decision making process is easy... you always know where to go! and i went there on the two worst nights... sunday and monday and still had good fun and got laid. it isn't as easy to score on the first day as some suggest... does happen often, but still convincing a girl to go to bed with you after having just met in a bar 3 hours ago sounds easy in theory, but when you are on the front and making your move, a lot of variables have to be taken into account. a serious deterrent seems to be peer pressure. when meeting a group of girls and concetrating on one, she often won't go home with you on the first night when her friends are there, but she definitely will on the next day when her friends aren't around. i don't know how many times i've not scored on a particular night and only got a kiss or two, but as soon as we were alone the next day we were fucking within 15 minutes. rogermellie can attest to this as well, he has had similar experiences i know.
what i didn't find in kgrad was a pro scene... it must exist, but i didn't look too hard. there were no pros that i could detect at planeta... maybe it was an off night. it was however the place in which i found my american passport to be the most interesting for them... not for marriage or anything, but for the fact that americans are an absolute rarity there.
those who do visit will surely have a good time, my statement that it isn't a legit mongering destination is based on my opinion that other russian cities with equal opportunities are more interesting culturally etc.
what i would appreciate from anyone is more detailed info on pros in kgrad as well as info on the baltic sea beaches there... now that could be very nice. russian girl + beach = sex
Do Russians discriminate against Asians?
What are you talking about?
Two thirds of Russia IS Asia !
Mao, Kim Jong, Ho Chi.... all Commies and Soviet allies.
Russia's all tied up with the arabs and India too.
Only Japan and Pakistan aren't their buddies.
Oh Mag.
Please don't delude Asian participants here. The majority of white Russian women DO have a bias on Asian men because of their asexual looks like most Euro and North Americn white women. Encouragement is ill when employed in an 'odd' fashion.
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I am going to Novosibirsk next week and wonder if any of you guys know of any agencies that have English speaking controllers or girls as the last time I was there in January I had no luck at all.
Sir Dick,
I am Asian and have several Russian friends (though I am never been to russia myself yet). They are perfectly comfortable with having Asian friends, though most of them are Russian-bred Asians. From what they have told me, there is generally no clear racisim towards Asians but often there may be inherent racism simply because they are not as accustomed to Asian people as to their own. And I have been told that if I do go to Russia, I would stand out as a tourist and be somewhat susceptible to racism.
I believe these comments apply more to St Petersburg and Moscow, rather than in eastern Russia, where Asian people are far more common.
Hope that helps.
Petropavlosk, Kattata, Russia, this is in the NE part of Russia maybe a special section should be setup, I will comment after my trip there in June, might not be til Aug when I get back.
I know there are Russian nuke sub base near, volcanoes, but what about the women situation, biggest nearby Russian city, I think is Vladavostk which I could be wrong, but miles from Moscow.
I visited US Dept of State site and they do have a little detail in this area on Fiancee Visas, marriage , they say average high temperature in June is like 68 degrees and nights 45 so being in Central FL as I type this , know whether will be nicer for me than in C. FL.
Sir Dick,
There is racism in Russia like there is racism everywhere. Xenophobia. Russian racism is often actually nationalism and is most prominent among the poor and in the country.
I assume your question is divided between two issues:
1) will you score with Russian women
Pros will sometimes reject Asians... but rarely. Pick another. At NF they won't reject you...since you'll be paying $250+. At CF they also will likely not reject you. Tochka girls can reject a customer, but it is rare. Particularly tochka pros are very simple girls, often from the country. They are xenophobic. NF and CF girls are more worldy and have fucked dozens of guys if not hundreds. So you likely won't be their first Asian. Other WSG members from Asia have done well for themselves there.
Scoring with amateur Russian women: Generally speaking one will encounter little blatant racism in central Moscow or St.Pete... if the girl is simply not interested in Asian guys she will let you know in the ways girls let a guy... any guy... know that she isn't interested. So move on, find another. The supply is endless... at least until 4am in the club when the corwds start thinning and the sharks move in for the kill of whatever females are left....
In Moscow in particular there are lots of Asians... especially Indians, Turks and Chinese, not to mention the Asian-Russians.
In several clubs I've been to, for example Voodoo Lounge, Karma Bar, Chesterfield's (Doug and Marty's Boarhouse), Rock Vegas etc. there have been many Indians and Turkish. They weren't doing bad for themselves, especially the good-looking ones. Good-looking guys are in demand everywhere no matter what their color. Average looking guys will not have it that easy, but that is the same everywhere.
2) security issues
There are skinheads in Russia and lots of them. You can avoid them fairly easily though. Stay out of the suburbs, don't walk around late at night (like after the metro closes at 1am)... especially not alone. Use street smarts and avoid situations you would avoid in any major city. IF you see a crowd of skinhead youth hanging out drinking beer and vodka, just walk another way and avoid them. And at night use taxis.
Russians of Asian appearance from the eastern provinces are fully integrated into Russian society and have no significant problems, except perhaps Muslim Russians from Central Asia who have dark skin.
Central Asians of darker-skinned appearance, like Pakistanis, some Indians and Arabs could experience more blatant racism... particularly if mistaken for people from the Caucasus, who are loathed by many in Russia due to the terrorist bombings of the last few years in association with the Chechen war.
So...
There are plenty of places Asians can go without trouble, especially if you go to places that expats frequent, businessmen frequent or to student places. There are lots of Asian students in Moscow.
In other locations or in the suburbs, caution is advised. You probably don't want to be there anyway, especially at night. Especially for newbies, stick to the city center. You could spend years in Moscow's center and not see every club, pub or cafe.
Mongering places like CF and NF have no prejudice...except against the very drunk and the poor.
Be sure to have your documents in order, otherwise the cops will give you a hard time. Especially for those in apartments, get your registration cleared up right away. Newbies might want to stay in a hotel but please dont even consider places like Rossia or Ukraine. Staying in a Russian hotel will limit your mongering fun to their stock of aged overpriced pros.
Hello everybody!
What club is CF? I understand that NF is the Nightflight, but the explanation of "CF" must have been a long time ago.
Rasputin
What is CF NF, Doc Shank?
sam/ras... CF is the old name for what is now Doug & Martys Boarhouse... Most people in Moscow know it as CF even though Chesterfields has not been around for several years.
NF is Night Flight... one of two top class hooker bars in Moscow. Prices here are usually a minimum of $200 even though they will ask for much more.
CF is an expat/dance/late-night hooker bar that is open 24/7 and the crowd changes with the time of day/night. Prices here range from $100 up.
Hello All,
After reading Explorer8939's reports of Novosibirsk I was thinking of spending 2 weeks there but then I saw that Yekaterinburg (Ekaterinburg), Russia's third largest city, is a little closer. Can any of you advise?
Gentlemen:
There is action in virtually every major city in Russia. Anyone posting here that such and such a city sucks simply didn't find the hot spots.
Yes I am sure there is pussy in Ekaterinburg but are the prices cheap like Novosibirsk or more like Hungary, Poland, etc? So any of you been to Ekaterinburg (aka Yekaterinburg) and care to share? Explorer, you've toured ther area, did you make Ekaterinburg one of your stops?
I should be going to Novosibirsk during the month of July. Would anybody recomend a Hotel in town which has got some working girls?
Help me please guys.
I am Australian and can get to Beijing free of charge by cashing in Frequent Flyer miles.
I had thought maybe of a quick few days in Vladivostok or some other Russian city alse reasonably close to Beijing for a serious sexual excursion.
Any clues as to what Russian city would be "best" for a 4 or 5 day mongering adventure. By "best" I mean best girls, best prices, best availability, hell I guess you guys also know what "best" means.
I am looking for good quality accomodation and gorgeous ladies, and will take your expert advice from fellow mongeres as to best plan of attack.
Thanks in anticipation.
Manuel, the only hotel I know in Novosibirsk is the Hotel Sibir, but there are not many girls so get in quick!
bbb... I had planned the same thing last summer but I was shocked at the price of air fares from China into Russia. You'd better check the pricing before you start packing!
Bad Boy Billy,
If you have the time you may wish to check out the prices of train tickets. When last I looked you could get a good deal. The trip from Beijing to Irkutsk can give you a stop over in Ulan Bator. You should check the reports from there on this board.
I have had people tell me that prices in Vlad are the highest east of the Urals. YMMV as reports on this board do not fully support this.
Thanks Dk,
I will do as you suggested. I am off to Greece in a couple of weeks and will report the actions accordingly.
Thanks guys for your tips, but still not clear.
I have actually booked a 4 day visit to Ulan Bator on August, free flight from Australia to Beijing and return so I am only up for the flight to Ulan Bator to devour some of those gorgeous creatures there. Return flight Geijing / Ulan Bator is US450.
I want to do another similar trip to a Russian city, maybe Irkutsk or Novosibirsk? I am not too concerned about the airfare as I will only have limited days available.
What are your suggestions please regarding a city with plenty of available gorgeous pussy?
Hey Guys,
I'm in the Navy and going to Vladivostok later this month. Any tips for a first timer to Vlad on good places to pick up women, pros or just horny women?
bbb... I hate to rain on your parade, but all of the expats in Beijing will tell you that Beijing is a far better place to sample the Mongolia girls instead of Mongolia! Something to do with the fact that they like to get out of town to ply their trade and it is less restrictive. I had a Mongolian girl in Singapore and she was wonderful... I look forward to your report though because I would like to visit UB sometime soon as a diversion from Moscow.
Good luck!
Novosibirsk: there are NO girls at the Hotel Sibir, at least as far as I could see. But, there are loads of girls at apartments, and you can order take in at any sauna.
Hey Explorer?
Now you got us wondering about qvartira price.
Am I close guessing 30/hr?
I do love their version of an hour too. When you're slaying them, they don't even think about time, until about 90 minutes when the phone rings from the madame that its "Ya va douche" and "Give money taxi" time.
Much more important though, be my hero 8939 please reveal the secret to solve the mysterian siberian pussy puzzle- HOW IN HELL to find the apartments? From phone nubers in the personals/introductions section of the local gazetta, or from taxi drivers/bartenders/bellboys?
And more questions about the saunas: How to find????? Same way as apts?
Also prices for dyevs at the sauna, and are they already there, and how many are there?
These things I must know before I can snatch the pebbble from Inna's snatch!
I'm hoping that there someone who got information about any type of activities in:
VLADIKIVKAZ, NORTH OSSETIA-ALANIA
I visited there last year for a few days and the place was Beautiful, the woman exceptional but the action NADA. I was tied up most of the time on business, and my hosts were familiar with the operators of the hotel and I was treated as a VIP so couldn't even ask for information from the bellhops and my time for mongering was almost none.
This time I'll be staying for a longer period, but almost everyone that I observed spoke little or no English nor was I able to find any information that I could understand from the newspapers.
North Seattle
CA Traveller,
Thank you for your tips, but when you say "all the expats in Beijing" I guess you have not spoken to the ones I have spoken to who have indeed been to UB.
Anyways whatever, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating.
I am heading there August 26, flights and accom all arranged.
I will post full and accurate day by day reports on my return.
Am really looking forward to it.
Also thanks to all the fellow mongers who provided me with info for my Russian sojourn.
Will also file full and accurate day by day reports on my return.
Keep it up guys, keep burying the bone at every opportunity.
bbb... I wish you all the luck in the world AND I look forward to your report... UB is one of my planned diversions from Moscow in the next year or so.
Take a lot of photos.
After asking....
and ASKING.......
AND ASKING.....
'Oo vas yest padruga?????'
finally...........
somebody finally said..........
'Da,
ya yest.'
So simple.
And then she wonders why I'm trying to turn her into a pretzel!
As I post here, am I safe to assume that the strategic placement
of Tanya's mole will be most appreciated by a specific category of
viewers that could be referred to as 'sick puppies' ?
Vertical smile.
That is real nice MM!
Lovely fuck platform she is. A truly beautiful twat. Amazing. Textbook. Gynecology textbook. Nice tits. I hope you fucked her "Russian style" between those titties and unloaded on her face. They like that. At least they pretend to.
Just for reference sake, where'd you get her, what'd she cost. Or was she free? I like to put things in perspective for my own personal reference... info appreciated!
And shouldn't it be "u tebya yest padrugu?"... the informal way... dropping the -a on the end of padruga (girlfriend) for the accusative form adding a -u to feminine gender nouns. (fucking grammar!) I doubt you have to use formal language with such suki.... :)
By the way... where are you now? In country?
"And shouldn't it be "u tebya yest padrugu?"... the informal way... dropping the -a on the end of padruga (girlfriend) for the accusative form adding a -u to feminine gender nouns. (fucking grammar!) I doubt you have to use formal language with such suki.... "
Actually, "u tebya yest padruga" is correct because 'padruga' is not the direct object of the sentence and therefore shouldn't be in the accusative.
Also, the answer would be simply "yest" because the subject is actually "padruga", i.e. "padruga yest".
Class is complete for today.
Oy! Don't expect to see me in class!
You fucking guys are giving me a fucking headache with your fucking language lessons. Look, just face it, I don't fucking know the fucking grammer. I never fucking have and I never fucking will. I only know how to say shit one way, that's fucking it. So I sound like a stupid fucking foreigner, so fucking what, I don't fucking care, because its too fucking hard to learn because I'm a fucking dumb ass. It's hard enough to say anything right in this fucked up language. My yankee mouth can't fucking twist all up and say fucked up words where the most fucked up letters are fucking jammed up together like a fucking nightmare. I mean, who the fuck can fucking say anything spelled
vstrmnyekhzhfklyenchtafspye ??? And then I'm fucking supposed to learn how to say that 7 different fucking ways? I don't think so!
Actually, I love pa ruski, but really, ruski grammer, it just aint gonna happen, even after a hundred 2 week monger missions. Nye vashna if I sound foreign as long as I can say Da da tritsat dolar da! I've established that is definitely the going rate for everyday dyevs, except for the ones who make it too obvious they are trying to rip me off. And it doesn't matter Odessa, Kharkov or Minsk, as long as you stay out of Kiev. And so what if my tongue won't combine ridiculous letter combinations, I still get plenty of gasping and moaning and thigh headlocks for my other fancy tongue work, and that's good enough for me.
No Doc, my spring fling in pisda paradise is kanyets and I'm back in the good old US of Abstinence. Only my memories, and the groin pull, and the possibility of another trip in the fall, keep me from the depths of darkness. Its only getting worse too, usually it takes at least a couple weeks to even a month to feel this low. Now it hit me as soon as my plane landed.
Guess I'll just post and suck it up. Meanwhile, somebody fuck somebody for me.
Like I gavarit priyesdye, nye vazhna.
Kali Banc:
Thanks for the grammar... Russian is a cool language...but the grammar is a killer!
MM: keep the faith bro. And keep the photos coming....
Guys actually the correct form is u tebya yest padruga (girlfriend) or u tebya yest padrugi (girlfriends). Podruga is in nominative case here :)
Mangusman: Sorry if I gave you more headache... You have been supplying us with an endless stream of the devushki you fucked, which is great. I thought maybe you can also tell us more about the accompanying memories- where and how you hooked up with them, how much you paid etc. It might help you to overcome your "back to home" syndrome. The Moscow/St Petersburg sections are full of information, but there are hardly any info on other cities, Kharkov, Minsk, Lvov etc and it seems that you hang out a lot in the provincial cities...
Gents,
Have searched the forum for info about Novorossiysk, but could not find anything. Dont know if my spelling is correct.
Any FR's from the area? Would appreciate it since I am visiting the area within a few months.
Hey guys,
Will go to Ekaterinburg the end of July. Has anybody been there and if so, would reccomend some hotels and some addresses?
Any action there?
Would it be better to be in a flat rather than hotel
Manuel
Hey Heddy.
Grazie for the comments, brat. I thought I was already expounding on the pounding. More dirt couldn't hurt, I suppose. But oh, what we all wouldn't give to know life's best kept secret, to be an R.Smellie or a Skankydorkmeister or a TranvyCat, to actually be paid for a job that sends you to places where you can get jobs of a delightfully different sort.
Motherfuckallsonofabitches, you guys are making the rest of us eat shit sandwiches. How Skanks, tell us poor schmucks, what obligatory task gets a working monger sent off to Odessa? Your fans gather you're not just there for pleasure . You're financing, or importing, or some shady scheme that deposits you on streets that are paved with poontang. You damn bastard you.
Druga, drugu, drugy? What are you on drugs?
Would somebody please tell Manny where he can get his tally wackered in YeKatrinafurberger, and somebody else tell Marcopolo where to bury his pole in Novosuckysisk, which is really at the end of the end of the line. In a place that far 'out', considering the scarcity of any decent opportunity, you'd have to think that any enterprising dyev, a/k/a waitress/ticket taker/store clerk, would be open to guiding you down her treasure trail.
We've already discussed scouring gazettas for 19/174/52 , and the mangling of the language, and asking Vlad the security guard to ring up a thing
or two. But we need a lot more than that. We need the rest of the story.
Maybe its not for you, but this monger could require serious amounts of research to live the experience, learn the spirit of these important cities. Vega, I gladly give you unlimited lifetimes to wander America. Its the perfect place for you, and you know all the names too!
Give me Omsk, Tomsk, Kursk, Pinsk, Perm, Tula, Tuva ,Tver, Ufa, Lvov, and Orel. Then check back with me in about 3 years. Lvov Orel ? I certainly do !
I'll be in a city called Cheboksary in two weeks.
Does anyone have any hobby experience there?
I'll be staying at the Hotel Dis. Any reports on the hotel out there?
Explorer88
Well, I had an experience with college student from Cheboksary, but not in Cheboksary. People over there are Turkic, so many girls have black hair and dark eyes. I started exchanging emails with a girl form Cheboksary before my first trip to Russia. When I got to Russia, she came all the way to Moscow to see me. I picked her from the train station, and oh my God, she was SO different than the girl in the pictures she sent. Don't get me wrong, she was beautiful and everything, but she dressed so vulgar and tasteless, she was totally "provincial", if you know what I mean. I was embarrased to be seen with her in Moscow. I didn't know what to do. Initially I planned to let her stay with me in my apartment but my plans changed rather quickly. I took her to hotel Tsentralnaya on Tverskaya. The whole weekend we went out only twice to buy vodka and some other necessities like extra supplies of condomes. She was a total ****. She gave me the best blowjobs ever in my life- she used gyrate her head while going up and down on my shaft and sucked my it so gently. Brrr! Then we went for a walk to one of the parks in Moscow and ended up doing it in the park... In the night, we fucked in the balcony overlooking Tverskaya with a view of Kremlin. That was great too. I still remember her :)
Have fun in Cheboksary, and tell us how it was.
Magnus Opus Man
I will let you in on a little secret ... Myself, Skank and CaliTrav did not just get lucky and land jobs that take up to Moscow et al regularly. We all (as far I can recall) actually shaped our jobs so that we were 'required' to travel to Russia / Ukraine as regularly as possible. Its a human engineering thing.
Everybody gets what they want out of life.... if you want to travel to Russia / Ukraine regularly, you just have to shape your career around that desire. You have to create a reason to be there all the time.
rm... right on! I remember back in grade school thinking... Man, if I could just grow up to be an International Arms dealer, I could spend the rest of my life playing "pin the tail on the dyvushka" in the USSR!
Failed miserably with the Int'l Arms gig, but damn if I didn't come up with something else... Too bad it's so damn much work though! :)
OTOH, the opportunities abound...
BTW, found a great club, Paris Nights, that is a cross between Voodoo and Karma Bar. It is primarily a Russian dance club and it is pretty much devoid of Xpats/tourists and is packed with beautiful girls. It's a late night place though... opens at 2300 until 0700. It's been packed everytime I've been there. It also just happens to be just around the corner from one of my apartments.
See you soon!
Roger the Artful Dodger.
If you check, you'll see that I've never said anything about you and the other 2 ruling members of the triumverat politburo being "lucky". I know only too well that you're all self made in the wild wild east of the post-commie capitalist dog eat dog system.
I personally know one that you might consider in your category, Victor, the young german entreprenuer destined to be the Donald Trump of Kiev. He started with one flat, now he must own 10 percent of the center. Inside connections no doubt facilitated his rise.
I merely qualify as an acquaintance and temporary tenant to Victor, because for all realistic purposes, it'll never be more than a CA grade school dream for fat bald 40 something unconnected white collar hobbyist who was tryng to find a bride 5 years ago and stumbled into the candy factory.
As if there were but the remotest chance I could uncover my niche at this so very late hour where I could even clear half of the six figures I'm handed for being number one in my company of 43, I'd resign and defect tomorrow. 30 kopecs for banging out Can't Buy Me Love in the undergound will get me a beer, but that leaves me S.O.L. on rent and scholarship funding, so its back to the grinding race o' rats for 48 weeks of WSG Skank stories. It could all change if she'd ever come back with me, but so far, my cash ain't nothing but trash.
Why I'll be back.
mm... it could be worse... doc could find love and the skank stories could dry up! Then, I'd have to stop working so damn hard and start playing a little more!
Hi All,
Anybody know of any action in Yaroslavl?
Spoken to a few girls in chat room that come from there.
Any info much appreciated.
Crompton.
MM - send me the contact detail please for your buddy, Victor the German. When I am next in Kiev I will have a chat with him, and rent one of his apartments.
Cheers mate
I will travel to novosibirsk next month. Could anyone pass some infomation on where to find girls there, as well as girl friendly hotels? Thanks.
Steve
unusual punting experience in the altai mountains south of novosibirsk towards the chinese border. once more i was astonished at the variety of adventures and the endless availability of gorgeous women to be found in russia, if you only go looking for them and actively seek them out. since it is unlikely that many will find their way out to this place in the altai, detailed hobbying information is relatively meaningless, but i hope this report can give a flavour of the delights and frustrations of traveling in a huge country as well as an account of some of the action. if you just want the action, accept an apology and scroll down to below the asterisks.
by way of background i always prepare my annual adventure in russia well in advance, and it is not intended solely as an erotic trip, but as a mixture of tourism, adventure and these fantastic russian women. in russia i find my own and until this year have not paid. the most fruitful path is a cluster bomb technique: contact a good 15-20 women all from a particular area (this year, as in the past two years in fact, around novosibirsk in central siberia) from one of the many internet friendship sites, and spend much of the year emailing and flirting them into submission. the three or four you really like you can then meet when out there. by the time you see them for real, you feel you already know them, you know they are hot, and you know they really want to meet you. the great thing is you can choose from the thousands available really beautiful ones exactly to your taste. they are often even more stunning in the flesh. and although i made an exception this year (irresistible opportunity sidetracked me for two days in st. pete), i generally avoid the cosmopolitan girls from moscow or st. pete. i find them – even before i have met them - more wised-up, demanding and generally harder to please. the provincials are all well-educated charm, femininity, smiles and fun, with few material expectations. and a guaranteed fuck.
one of the chosen few this year i persuaded to take me out into the mountains for a few days. irina organized a package from novosibirsk and all went very well. distances are huge and this meant an overnight bus trip out. on the map the road is shown as eventually leading to ulan bator, but this is no doubt only possible with a four-wheel drive. we went as far as bus transport can take you, about 600 kms south-east via barnaul and bisk to where the tarred road gave up. indeed, the last kilometer we had to walk.
unfortunately the coach model i had been expecting, air-conditioned, smoothly shock-absorbed, with stretch-out beds, on-board hostesses, caviar and champagne bar and luxury toilet, was unavailable that evening, so we had to make do with a poorly sprung boneshaker with unreclining seats and non-functional toilet, imported in used condition from finland at least twenty years ago and hammered into the ground ever since. the sort where the floor threatens to arrive before the rest of the bus. there was a tv, but i’ll be buggered if they could get it to show portugal – england.
our hostess was a fat young charmer called svetlana in a tight sweaty t-shirt and badly dyed red hair, who took a quick roll-call, bawled the rules to the guests (no smoking, no alcohol, no sex, so far as i could gather) and then promptly fell asleep noisily in the seat in front of me for the duration. the driver was a “russian male” type, playing the contemptuous professional, unsmiling, imperturbably cool, chain-smoking, and a hell-raising danger to all other road users. “road”? no, you don’t want me to describe the road, save one spectacular incident on the way back, when a motorbike hit an enormous pothole at full speed on a bend on the outskirts of novosibirsk. all might have been ok, if it had not had a side-car and they had wedged babushka into it satisfactorily. it had; and they hadn’t. fortunately, on the way out to the altai it was night and i was mostly unaware of how close to death i was.
the other travelers intrigued me: mostly surprisingly young, despite the high bus price, long-haired youths with shirts shouting ronaldinho or gucci or holland (pronounced in russian of course as golland, as in gamburg, gannover, gollywood, or my favourite, adolf gitler), and their gorgeous slim girlfriends in designer jeans and miniscule tops. in short, a busload of good humour made its way happily out into the mountains, if without much sleep. of course i devoted a lot of my time to irina under her blanket.
the place we were staying at, a village called ored, and the hotel complex a drearily named ored1 (pronounced ariyed-adin) is a newly built attempt at a tourist trap. that is, they have the western tourist prices, but have somehow not quite matched up yet on the services front. oh, who cares? imagine an atmospheric, wooden, alpine-style hotel in a long, steep and forested river valley, with lawns leading to a rushing, crashing boulder-strewn mountain river called kuba. very beautiful, especially when the sun shone, and you can go for great walks along this and other rivers and streams.
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ok, sorry. i am getting there, i promise. but now you have the setting. rooms ok, restaurant a disaster, but two superb examples of siberian woman were working there. one, the tall, long-legged receptionist, grey blonde and warm-hearted. yes, i finally found one, a smiling, helpful russian receptionist. almost certainly unavailable. but the second, about 19 i guess, a brunette with straight shoulder-length hair called olya, smooth slav cheekbones, another wide smile and fine arse, who worked in the bar and was to turn into the unexpected heroine of this story.
but for the first 36 hours irina and i spent an idyllic time getting to know ored1 and each other’s bodies and all went just as i had promised myself on the drawing board. my gonads were truly sizzling. unfortunately on the second evening, irina started feeling unwell, and was confined (even longer) to bed. i had a few hours to wait for holland – sweden (1.30 a.m. kick-off these parts), so we decided i should go alone to the bar. it is an outdoors bar with a wooden terrace overlooking the splendid river, and that is where i spent a couple of hours drinking sibirskaya korona (one of the great beers of the world) and listening to the execrable music. saturday night, and the local band was “entertaining” us to an endless series of awful loud russian songs. i am afraid that with few exceptions russian popular music makes my vacuum cleaner sound like mozart. i suffered.
suffered, that is, until it started getting dark, and who should come over to sit down beside me but our bargirl, olya. she said she always tried to find time to talk with any foreign guests who turned up in ored, and would i mind? certainly not, and my eyes even less, as they roamed over her lovely smooth smiling face and medium-sized breasts beneath the bar apron. not too tall, but a wonderful apparition nonetheless.
nothing ventured, nothing gained, and so after a decent ten minutes chat i asked her when the awful music was due to finish and what was she doing after it did. i think she was half-angling for this anyway, but she had no idea when the music would end, but thought she could slip out for half an hour or so for some “razvlechenye”. (you certainly could not describe what followed as “relaxation”, but even russians must be allowed their euphemisms). “give me ten minutes to fill the other guests with a couple more vodkas, and i will be with you. where?” ah! couldn’t be my room, i explained (she smiled). and did she “expect anything?” oh, you will give me a small sum, like a friendship present. hmm, difficult. with the restaurant and bar charging six times local prices to the tourists, what was she really expecting? but prices out here must be rock-bottom, surely. in my pocket i had 700 roubles (about eur 20). oh, well, here goes. shrugged, proffered, pocketed, smiled. “are you very religious? i give you key to chapel. ten minutes. be quiet.” toscana’s eyes bulged, but she had slipped away.
i knew the tiny chapel, it was two minutes walk among trees along the river, but up on a small promontory overlooking the river from quite a height. the first key opens the chapel gate, and the second the chapel itself. i wandered up there, heart thumping, and waited beside the chapel door. surely not inside! it was pitch black. suddenly she was beside me. i hadn’t heard her coming. she took the keys, went back and locked the gate. she’d obviously done this before, because it was not going to be in the chapel, but beside it on a small terrace, and she rustled a condom by my ear. giggle. again, “be quiet”. there was a small wall round the terrace about half a metre high, and this was going to save us both from death. i could see the headlines: “bar waitress falls well fucked into river”.
i wish i could describe how her breasts or her arse looked. but i could see nothing but vague outlines. no moon, and only the noise of the rushing water below. but i could feel everything. she slipped my hand onto her breasts, and beneath her bar overall she now had nothing on. she was unshaven. we were immediately all over each other, making out with kissing and very heavy breathing, both incredibly excited. well, under the circumstances, you will understand that subtle technique had to give way to more animal athleticism, but we were soon doing pretty well. she found the stone chapel wall, backed up to it and, now naked, swung her legs up round my hips. hadn’t done it like this for ages. demon kisses. one arm to support the arse, one to roam where it could. when i tired, she dismounted, leaned over and placed her hands firmly on the lower promontory wall round the terrace. i spent the next ten minutes pumping bravely from behind, shorts still round my ankles and my mind wandering in a darkened, dream-like state from one erotic vision to another. i do not know whether she came, but she was groaning away trying to keep quiet, and by the end i was almost staggering as the last strength left my knees. amazing stuff. wonderful stuff. finished, she giggled in my ear, bit it gently and we went. locked up, left separately, and i did not see her again.
so thanks olya for that adventure. and saints elena and konstantin of that small chapel up there on the promontory? i murmured my thanks to them too. hoped they had turned their heads, forgiven a miserable sinner, and while they were at it, would do their best to get him safely back to civilization on next day’s bus.
so, if you ever find yourself 600 kms into the altai mountains in this one horse village by the river (in fact it had two, for the tourists), you might like to try olya from the river-side bar.
Toscana: outstanding story. Nicely written.
Out of curiosity, how much was your "present" to her
my mistake - just read it was 700 rubs
Toscana:
I really like your narrative format. Thanks for the report. Please keep them coming. May I ask what sites you use to make the initial contacts? Do you speak Russsian?
Sexplorer,
Sent you a PM.
I did not find a girl friendly hotel in Novosibirsk, although in summer, the Sibir hotel probably has inside girls who will go up to your room.
The idea is that the girls work in bordellos that you go to.
Hi Explorer,
Thanks for your reply. any recommendation of good bordellos? is this the only option in Novosibirsk? Is it safe there?
Steve
Anyone have any info on Volgograd? I will be in the area in about a month. Any help would be appreciated.
Toscana.
Fun story. Excellent.
Sam.
I'll be in Ekaterinburg in September.
Does anyone have any hobby experience there? Any info much appreciated.
Andycap
Here is what I've been able to find about the city on Volga...
If you are staying in "Volgograd" hotel, apparently the person to see is the security. Let them know you want a "devochka", you'll have several girls (probably several, might be one) delivered to your suite. You then choose the one you like, or perhaps take a pass if the choices are not palatable. The prices are about 800 rubles per hour. In the past you might've gotten calls from agencies directly to your suite, but people who were there recently report that this has now stopped. Other hotels are similar.
Re: Novosibirsk
I was able to find a reference on the Net to a girl named Lera (3832) 59-14-12 or possibly 58-82-40, charges about 1000 RR/hour. 20 years old, tall and thin. Key: apparently studies English.
2190,
can you provide a link to lera? might want to give her a call.
Thanks
Here is the "review", translated through WorldLingo and made shorter via *******. No pictures, unfortunately.
http://*******.com/4kbbz
Any informations about Nizhny Novogorod?
I have attempted posting on this board several times about a place that it seems to have no apparent activity.
It's the city of, "Vladikavkaz", located in the Caucasus Mountain area of North Ossetia-Alania. Very beautiful place, the scenery is very special.
I've visited most of Russia, as well as the Balkan Countries and have the opinion that some of the most beautiful woman I've ever seen are living in this city.
I was able to get together with several woman who were employed at shops and factories who were strictly amateurs who had been introduced to several friends who visit regularly, generally with their wifes who must be very discreet, and speak Russian.
I'm sure that there must be some activity, but it's not apparent, nothing in the newspapers. I am expected to be circumspect at the hotel, as my accommodations are provided by the hotels owners, so even that's off limits.
Any information would be welcomed.
North Seattle
In Vladikavkaz, the main thing to see is the old mosque built in 1906 by a Baku
oil baron with an Ossetian wife. You are required to enter with your right foot and exit with your left foot, some kind of fucked-up Muslim version of the hokey-pokey!
Imperial Hotel, and Hotel Vladikavkaz are the 2 main places to stay, where you'll look out to see the Terek river on one side and mountains on the other.
Cafe 2 by 2, and Bistro are reccommended places to eat famous Ossetian pirogy, or Ossetian pie, the tasty local pastry filled with spinach, meat, cheese, or ram's testicles.
What you really want to find is Ossetian hair pie, with rim cheese. Being only a few kilometers from Grozny and their weekly fireworks festivals of human
sacrifice, one would think that in such a world of desperation and life/death
moments, your bellboy and helpful hotel security would happily summon upon request for you the hair pie of your choice, probably his sister, mother, cousin, or fuck buddy from down the block.
Re: Novosibirsk
1000 rbl per hour is expensive for the area, the usual fee is between 300 and 500. Here is a copy paste from a novosibirsk phone numbers listing at sextalk.ru.
13-17-76Natura... report to 11/11/02 .........Sarin: 22, ~y'shch cm, 2- kA...400....I RECOMMEND
......olegun... report to 12/02/2003 .........Tatiana: ?, ~y'8 cm, 54, 2- kA...450....I RECOMMEND
24-79-84 ...ul. Gogol
..........Natura...report to 01/03/2003 ...Alina: 21?, 160,45, 2- kA...400.....I RECOMMEND
33-79-52, 59-67-89...Sluice..
......Natura...report to 11/06/02...Katya : 19, 2- kA...350..... I RECOMMEND
......Natura...report to 09/10/02 ...Cristina: 21, 165, 50, 2- kA...400..... I RECOMMEND
......Natura...report to 14/10/02 ...Dar'ya(Lena): 23?, 165, ~'shch, 2- kA...400..... I RECOMMEND
There is a famous university 25 km away from the town, so you should find some girls speaking english around.
Courcheval,
thanks for the info. However, the yare from 2002 or 2003. is the price still the same? any decent escort agency?
Steve
Hello Steve,
For experimenting the scene myself in Siberia in June, i can confirm that prices average around 500 rbl/h. Some english language skills might spice up the price somehow.
Here are some recent phone numbers on sextalk.ru
23/07/04 katya 600 rbl/h 131776
08/05/04 Angela 500 rbl/h (913) 909-7687
03/05/04 Lola 700 rb/h (3832) 59-41-41
If you wander around the main street (Lenin Street, how amazing!), you ll find some nice girls making eye contacts and quick signs with the hand asking for price approbation.
There are "family run apartments" and saunas in Novosibirsk. Here is one number on Pl Sverdlov : 147027
A website : http://sibgarem.narod.ru
Local papers and taxis are usually a good source of information, as usual.
Courcheval,
Thanks. your information is very useful. http://sibgarem.narod.ru has some very nice ladies. However, the price they quoted was very high.
Unless you speak Russia, it's almost impossible to get laid in Siberia. based on my exprience. In addition, the hotel securiy usually doesn't allow girl to saty.
Steve
Does anyone know about SOCHI (I heard it is in South Russia).
I heard a lot of good things about it.
I heard woman are cheap and beautiful.
Please send some info.
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It looks as though I will have occasion to be in Rostov this coming December. It will be my first trip and I was hoping some kind soul could give me some information on the scene there.
2315... Sochi is a Black Sea resort. I was waiting for someone with personal experience, but I will tell you what I know.
The beaches are not especially good. The water is not particularily clean. The girls are probably plentiful... COST????
Unless you know Russian and have spent some time here, I suggest that you go with an experienced RU traveler. Don't go after late September or before end of June.
""Unless you speak Russia, it's almost impossible to get laid in Siberia. based on my exprience. In addition, the hotel securiy usually doesn't allow girl to saty.
Steve""
It is certainly more difficult to find people speaking english in Siberia, but from my experience, as a foreigner, there is always a local willing to help you in that matter. If you have a vehicule, stop in a cafe and order something. If you watch the waitresses with insistance, they will certainly try to arrange something. Some cafes even have saunas. If you stop in a motel, especially those for truckers, you can be sure the room service will be organised there.
If you dont have a vehicule, go to a beach and try to make friends with locals. After sharing a few vodkas, they will certainly offer you to phone a few girls they know. Go and sit at a cafe near a flea market on week ends. If you look foreigner, girls will make eye contacts, making clear they are interested in you...and your buying power.
FYI, there is a naturist beach near Novosibirsk. We stayed at the Koloc (colosse) holidays "resort" there, giving right on the beach, with tennis, sauna and bar. Might be a nice place to start socialising...
Novosibirsk is known as the Pataya of Russia. Prostitution is officially illegal tho, so the scene is not as obvious as in Thailand. If you dont trust your international communication skills, the safest bet is to go to a sauna and ask for 'dievushka' (girl) and skolka 'how much' Those two words combined are explicit enough to get you what you are looking for.
So, noone has any information about Nizhny Novgorod?
Ok I just got back from Russia. I went to Chita and Irkutsk in Siberia and Zabaekal regions. So far I have not found any luck in Irkutsk but then again I didn't really look for it on this trip. However when I got to Chita I stayed at the Gostinitza ( Hotel ) Zabaekalnae. It is located right on the side of Lenin Square that surrounds the local government buildings. Well I was minding my own business in my room at night watching Russian MTV when my phone rang, I did not realize that it was already 12:30 in the morning and a very sweet girl asked if I was interested in a djievooshka ( girl ). I didnt hear everything she said so I replied " Schto? ( what? ) and she laughed, paushed to think and in English said two words, " girl....sex " and laughed again. My heart skipped at the offer to my room, so I agreed and told her my room number and within 5 minutes there was a knock on my door. I opened it to see a very very cute girl maybe 22? She had a decent face, high cheek bones, a bit thin on the lips but nice eyes. Long blonde hair down her back and wearing medium amounts of make up. Actually at this point I want to tell you guys that the girls in Chita and Irkutsk are actually quite beautiful all around. Typical of Russian girls she was wearing an outfit that was a bit exagerrated, with the heels that has straps up to almost her knee, wearing a white skirt, white tank top and a white waist length jacket. ( Another trend here in Sibera the all white thing, is that a secret code for "ask me about my services?" Its a joke ) Anyways, she was about 170cm and maybe 55 kg. She came in and spoke poor English and my Russian isnt exactly College Academia. Her name is Leana. We exchanged small chat and I filled the gaps with telling her how she is amazingly gorgeous and that I was happy that she called me. ( I am not sure if she was the one that called actually, she sounded sweeter on the phone ). She laughed and sat on my bed and we tried to chat but eventually gave up because we mostly laughed at our inability to communicate effectively. I said " I want you, and how much? " My heart skipped, 400 ruples. I picked up her hand and told her how beautiful she was and that I wanted her to stay. I tried to kiss her but she turned away and I told her that I wanted everything because I want her very much. I didnt wait for her to haggle with me ( maybe I should have ) but I said I will give her 200 more and if we have good sex I would call her again when I got into town. She said " laudna " ( another way of saying ok ) and began to kiss me, open mouth and very french. Her clothes came off and so did my pants, she was stroking me while touching herself and as I grew hard she pulled out the condom. I put my finger to her lips and traced her mouth and said " hachu " ( I want ) and she kissed down my chest and stroked me a couple of times before putting me in her mouth. Her skills were not that well honed, a little bit of teeth but she worked on me with her mouth, with alot of sucking and stroking for about 15 minutes. Afterwards she climbed back up and we kissed some more and she continued to stroke me while I slipped my hands between her legs to play with her. I rolled her over onto her back and spread her legs to kiss her down below, everything was fine and she smelled terrific. She seemed to enjoy my tongue work because she ran her fingers through my hair and was grinding her hips into my face. She was moaning quite nicely in the midst of the tv playing some Russian pop tune. After maybe 10 minutes and she was really moaning, then again I was going after her sensitive spot, she pulled me up to her and said " ya hachu...sex " ( I love that Russian accent with the attempt at English ). Safety first.
We stayed missionary with medium amounts of kissing, she moved her hips to my motion and eventually I came that way. Lasted maybe 15-20 minutes because I would stop and kiss her just so I can slow myself down.
I say she was quite nice, smelled quite nice, looked quite nice. She did not rush to leave, because she wanted to ask me where I was from and what I was doing in Chita. They dont have that many Western foreigners here. I told her I was passing through and I offered to call her next time I came to Chita. I got a pager number if anybody is going to Chita and wants it. Her name is Leana. We laid in bed and talked and she eventually gave me a kiss and hug after getting dressed and on her way out.
By the way, I have a nice digital camera, I have been wanting to ask you guys this but how do you convince the girl to have her picture taken? I havent even begun to try because I get this feeling that if your girlfriend wont let you take naked pictures of her. I havent tried asking. Is is as simple as that or something more? Some advice would help.
1346... 600 rubles... not bad! Sounds like money well spent.
I suggest that you start snapping photos almost immediately... don't ask, just start snapping away while she is clothed. Also, have her take some shots of you and then be sure to show her the photos on the screen as soon as you snap the shot. Make her a part of the fun and it will become an enjoyable game for you both to share.
Then, you can work up to the more hard core shots.
Dear Gentlemen,
I will be in Novgorod Veliky, 3 hours by train from Piter. Somebody knows how is the scene there? Any info? I will write my report when come back home, but I would like to save money and mainly time with some info, so i will appreciate every little info about this city.
Thanks in advance,
Luca
Any info on Tomsk. I have to go there for a few days next week. I have searched and found no info on the scene there. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hi everyone,
Re the Novgorod question. I stayed there for a total of four nights three years back. Unusually for Russia, there were no working girls in the lobby of the hotel I stayed at, given the price range. The bars I visited didn't have any obvious working girls. I could have asked around I guess, but didn't.
Thanks guys on the tips of using my camera, I will try it the next time I go out. I will try the play together thing and make her a part of the game. Lets see how charming I can be, I have succeeded with a couple of girlfriends before. I'm crossing my fingers.
I wonder, anybody was so crazy to go to the biggest city above circus polar artic, I mean any info on Murmansk? Greatly appreciate!
Hi!
Murmansk is a nice place for hunting. The city is full of saunas, and the lokal escortfirms are making their annoncement throug MTV local TV. Here is a list over the lokal firms. http://vm.h1.ru/club.htm
Prices from 35 USD pr.h to 100 USD.
Ciao Pappa,
Please could you write something more about Murmansk, maybe, if I am not asking too much, write a little report?
I really appreciate it and surely not only me.
Thanks!
Hello guys,
Nizhny Novgorod, somebody knows? I will go there mid October. If you have good adresses tell me please.
Novorossiysk.
Arriving Krasnodar from St. Petersburg. About 2hours 15 minutes drive to Novorossiysk. The city is located in the north-eastern part of the Black Sea. There is an airport closer to the city, called Anadar.
Stayed 3 nights in Hotel Novorossiysk, at about USD.50 a night. Hotel recently bought by a guy from Moscow who will upgrade the hotel, which is necessary.
First night we spoke with the security-guy in the hotel, and he advised that the girls sitting in the casino were WG’s. THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO VISIT THE ROOMS. Luckily for me I had a Russian-speaking friend with me, and he translated. Most people speak very limited English. Reason for not allowing the girls “upstairs” was because the pimp had not made an agreement with the new owner of the hotel. You could however bring in girls from outside, but they had to register after 2300 hours.
We went out hunting about midnight, and first to a place called MAXIMUS, recommended by the security-guy. This was a medium size disco with about 50 people dancing. A lot of beautiful ladies, mainly students in the age range of 18-24. But to noisy to talk to anyone so we left after a beer. The taxidriver that took us to Maximus recommended a strip-club called PAUK (English: Spider). Leaving the disco, we met two girls on their way in, and my friend asked them about good places to go. They could not recommend anything, so he asked if Pauk was OK, and if they wanted to join us. They laughed and said no :) . Me and my friend went there, and after a while the two girls joined us (BTW; free entrance at about 0100 hours). We invited them to sit with us, and we had a good time. One blond, one black haired (21 and 23 years old). The latter sat with me and was shy about her English, but as I am a patient guy, we managed to chat, and understood each other well. After a cognac she improved. They were not WG’s, so did not discuss P4P. We had some more drinks and danced a little, and watched some strippers (gorgeous young ladies as well). After the dance the strippers came around to you, lapdanced a little, asking for 100 rubels (abt. Usd. 3).
One of our young friends had a mobile, and I got her number, and texted her the next day, inviting them for dinner. No Reply. However, next morning got a positive reply, hence we met with them at 2100 hours for dinner and more friendly chat, and they took us to a few other clubs which was not good at all (don’t even remember the names).
Tried to make them come back with us to our hotel, but was turned down since Hotel Novorossiysk had such a bad name in the city. According to them, girls would be looked upon as “bad girls” if they came with friends to the hotel. We tried to find other solutions, but “no way” this time. Told you, regular girls! I am sure that we can hit the sack with those two dames, but it may take a while. Why, since they asked if we will visit regularly, or just tourists. We will be back soon (I hope), and shall report back then.
The WG’s we saw in the casino of our hotel was not good looking, and regretfully our time was limited due to business.
Some nice restaurants in the city, service good, and food not to bad, but I will stop ordering Bloody Mary’s as they all think that the Tabasco is a huge part of the recipe.
A lot of construction going on, so obviously money is coming in to the city, building both tall blocks for apartments and offices and private houses.
Marconista, interesting report ! Just for general information : after the separation of Ukraine from Russia and the subsequent lost of the big harbours - Sevastopol ( military ) and Odessa - trade and tourism - Novorossiisk is currently THE big russian harbour on the black Sea;
It is the new HQ of the russian navy ( Black Sea Fleet ), and the russian gate for the exportation of oil from the Caspian Sea. This explains the new investments in the infrastructure of the city. Good news : hotels and night life can improve in the future. Bad news prices can go upwards !
Moreover I think the name of the airport is Anadyr.
Regards.
Hi mongers,
I have to fly to Krasnodar for some days.
Any idea how to find some nice girls there?
I speak russian, so this should be not the problem, but i dont want to spent too much time with searching.
Thanks, you are all great!
Wolf
[QUOTE=Hamburg Willi]Hi mongers,
I have to fly to Krasnodar for some days.
Any idea how to find some nice girls there?
I speak russian, so this should be not the problem, but i dont want to spent too much time with searching.
Thanks, you are all great!
Wolf[/QUOTE]Just to update it:
Stayed 2 days in Krasnodar, nice town.
There is one Totschka, but a little bit different than in moscow.
Its on a road-circle on a bus-station, there was 15 girls from 18-24,
i got the only one who was smiling (Sveta, 18), she was so nice, that i stayed with here the whole two days.
The other source for girls seems to be the saunas, i have stayed in two different saunas and there where 2-5 girls avaiable.
My russian friend told me, if i had more time, it should be very easy to get a freebe in the local entertaiment centre.
i visited it in the morning when my flight was late, i talked with 3 realy nice and beatufully girls and all three invited me for next stay in krasnodar, so seems to be very simple.
Find included picture of Sveta (ask for phone by pm)
Poka,
Wolf.
Hamburg Willi, thanks for sharing.
Please advise expenses for Short Time / Long Time, as we expect it to be less than Moscow & St. Petersburg.
Willi:
Don't want to bust your bubble but the girl in the picture is not attractive at all. I presume she is the tochka girl. Were selection in the saunas any better?
Marconista:
In provincial Russian cities sauna girls cost about 700 rubles/hour, give or take another 100. It is dirt cheap, but by and large girls are only average. In small cities you better look for freebies leveraging the White God factor...
[QUOTE=Hedonist]Willi:
Don't want to bust your bubble but the girl in the picture is not attractive at all.[/QUOTE]
Have to disagree with you on that one ol' chap. She may not set a new standard for slavic feminine pulchritude, but I sure wouldn't kick her out of bed on a cold Siberian night.
Good job Willi, keep those pictures coming.
счастливо,
Stravinsky
Some pictures from a girl of Krasnodar I met in 2003.
SG,
Very nice. Do you remember how you met? How much did you pay?
Stravinsky
Stravinsky,
It was in 2002. As far as I can remember something like 20 $ for the night. She was average in all : face body and sex ! An occasional girl, looking for some money for ending the month!
i was just watching a history chanel documentry on siberia. very informative and somewhat distrubing. the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] perpetuated by the soviets is horrendous. from the total disregard for human lives to the destruction of the environment nothing was sacred. now there are hugh cities constructed in the middle of no where which have no purpose now that communism is finished. 40 million people in an environment that can support 20% of that number. it is appalling.
in novosibirsk 75% of the sw are drug users and 45% of those are hiv positive. there were no imperical numbers given so wheter this represents 100 people or 100,000 i can't say but the city is apparently about 250,000. when i read about the tochkas and how they are populated by siberians i wonder what this is doing to the moscow populaqtion of girls?
Dear Quakman,
I watched that same History Channel special on Siberia in total shock and horror. Once the soviet socialist system collapsed, so too did its subsidies of Siberia.
The fact that a minimum of 300,000 people in Siberia are HIV positive is truly frightening. HIV/AIDS is spreading faster there than anywhere else on the planet. These are educated white people too!
On the web there are dozens of reputable websites advertising for thousands of drop-dead gorgeous Russian women seeking American husbands. The thought that so many could be HIV + is very scary.
Aloha,
HNL Player
Does anyone have any current info on the so-called "San Francisco of Russia", Vladivostok? My job may be taking me there in five months. I'll be there about a week, maybe longer if its good. I had a New Zealand friend tell me that Westerners (and especially Americans) are treated like rock stars, especially if they're even the slightest bit good looking.
Since it is a Navy port, does that make it better or worse?
Thanks!
Zizz
Just back from Kaliningrad here some infos.
The most and easyst way to get some nice girls is to buy the second hand newspapers like "Is Ruk i Ruki" or "Jarmarkt".
they call ot "massage"-service but of couse its beautifull pros.
to me it seems girls much more beautifully than in moscow, i was very suprised. (and moscow girls are realy very nice!)
I searched for a good streapteaseclub but did not find one. Taxidrivers dont know, Hotel doesnt know. So a gave up.
Something like a brothel or so also seems to not avaiable. ( I asked 4 taxi drivers)
With the Tochkas i am a little bit afraid of the real strange number of aids-ill people here in this region (also i have save sex, i am afraid).
Thats its :-)
Tomorrow i will fly for two weeks to Krasnodar, hope to find out more infos for you.
CU,
Wolf
some time ago in this winter, i had a trip to tatarstan, not kazan, but i would like not to tell the city, so few foregniers… (see the pictures section of a real tatar girl).
but in my opinion the scenes described and the prices are the same over the smaller russian cities where there is no “inflation” made by western fuckers!
i had already been there and i knew something already. an i know also some basic russian. after dinner i was going out, in the really cold, searching a “good” taxi. so at the end i found him… arthur, a young taxi driver. very openly i was asking him for girls, and he answered me in hotel or in apartments and how many? one, two or three… of course i preferred in hotel, and i said one for this evening!
so he just started making some calls with his cellular phone, i saw his wallet full of cards with small brothel numbers, he had at least ten, some promising 10% for the taxi driver, so i was very happy, i found the right guy. after some minutes we left for the other part of the city. then we got in a courtyard of a typical soviet block construction flats, and he just told me wait here for some minutes… i was waiting for some time and the he came out from the building with a woman and a “small tocka” of three young teens. i was getting down of the car and asking the middle women for a night price, the girls were nice, tall, and young, typically russian. there were little comprehension problems, in this cases i always have with me some rigid note block and a pen. finally i found out that for what i wanted (approx 12-14 hours) the price, including all commissions, was 2.000 roubles or 55 euros !!!
choosing the girl in the darkness, so i took a the youngest, very tall, short black haired and se was driven in front of the hotel by the middle woman, where i paid her the 2.000 and the taxi 300 (we were out something like one and half hour and he made at least 5/6 telephone calls).
we got to the room with no problem (the hotel is a western standard new one). i offered some drink but it was a no, and irina (of course a fake name) was asking me to go to dush. ok i said. of course no english was spoken.
when she came out with a towel around her body i noticed that the right chose was made!. i thought se was with high heels or high shoes in any case. it was not so. se was 182-184 cm! slim body, and fantastic legs, a typical russian beautiful teen. the first think she asked was to put off the light, she was very shy and never looked at me. but i made a compromise: a smaller light so i could see her well in any case. se was not happy but it was ok, so she laid on the bed. and i opened the towel… wow a stunning body, slim, with small rock-hard tits, with very small pink and soft nipples, and a shaved pussy looking just like a razor blade cut in the body! looking like a virgin. of course she was not.
i think that it would be really hard to find a virgin russian girl above 18. in my opinion, but i might be wrong, they fuck like rabbits when the boys are not drunk!
getting back to the main argument the best thing was her real [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] face on this body showing she was no [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] at all. beautiful green eyes, black short hair and, upwards lille nose, soft and wet lips and, like most of russians, fantastic smooth skin. i just asked for a bbbj (also with some extras) but it was no, no, no! of course no speaking on strange things like anal or photos. i understood she had been in business very shortly, but of course she could fuck, suck and ride! just like a rabbit.
in the morning i wake up early, the room was very hot, and i saw this beauty laying, naked, over the bedclothes (!) sleeping. the light was still on… was thinking taking some pictures… she will be angry. i have to stay here four more days and i can fuck her all the nights! so i preferred to go to the toilet take a light wash, look at the watch (6 am), and thinking they will pick me up for a meeting and a lunch at 11.00… so i have at least 4 more hours. so i took a viagra (100 mg), went back and stating cuddling her. the response was quick. i started to fuck her like a rabbit, looking at this wonderful body and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] face. in a pause she was drinking a coke and told me se was 18 and only some week in the business. this must have been true because after some time of heavy fucking she became all wet, her clito was red and swollen! it was a nearly four hours fuck, of course with many shots! i shafted her in all the positions, and specially in the missionary with legs up i could see how beautiful face she had. and how tight she was! i thought at the following nights with this beauty, perhaps some photos or some more… ok i had the taxi drivers telephone number, she was not willing to give me her perhaps she was afraid on middle woman thinking in a direct deal.
i must say that i got to my meeting very relaxed and made some good deal. of course thinking during the lunch also the on the evening’s second round (out of five in total which might have been possible)! of course i was thinking on what could be get from this girl with some 500 or 1000 notes in tipping each evening… mmmmm!
i managed to get the cell no of the driver the evening before and called him, he made clear it would take some time to get to the hotel, but after half an hour he was there. we went back at the tocka, irina was not there… i was asking the middlewoman which now had four girls. se made me clear she was sick (period she said with the help of a small dictionary i always have with me)! what a real pity!
i was looking at the girls and i saw this tatar girl with high black boots, very short miniskirt and looking closer at her asking how old she was and se said 20 opening her fur… not bad. so why not trying a tatar? irina was surely russian. same time same price. i understood then that they charge 250 roubles an hour (9 usd !!!) and 2.000 for a night. same procedure.. but instead of being very shy the girl was already starting grabbing my cock in the taxi… this time the knew me and i paid directly the tocka owner on spot and got the girl on my car.
we got to the hotel and the first part of fun started… photos, sucking, fucking and i could make also some “pink” pictures you can see in the picture section.
the problem was that the girl was drinking vodka like a russian sailor a complete glass in one shot (in means like a double double whiskey)! one after the other between fucks.
i was thinking not bad, when she gets drunk i will fuck her in every hole and make some cim and cof. wow!!!
suddenly her character changed and got angry at every thing only smoking cigarettes and watching the tv… then she went to the bath and after a long time i was not hearing nothing i had to get in and see… she was just sitting on the closet sleeping. so i wake up her for getting her to bed, but she just started pissing on the floor! saying shit at me in russian.
somebody could have liked it, not me, she was very angry at every thing and starting throwing glasses and beer cans in the room ! so i hand northing else to do than throwing her out in the corridor nearly naked, with all the clothes and black boots.
at the end she went away. but, despite the pictures, the experience was not good at all. very bad. this is what can happen, in any case every thing is very cheap, so for the other days i choose the best restaurant in town and was going on the other russian beauty: ikra, real caviar of course. more fucks was delayed to moscow (se moscow section and pictures).
Hi,
I was so lucky and could stay the last 4 weeks in the town Krasnodar, nor far away from the black sea.
So what can i say about girls :-)
Its so simple to get them if you have time. Just a smile in the Parikmerskaja, in the supermarket or in the night club. But all of them was nothing for a one night stand, just simple the need for a nice friend.
And if you have no time? also very simple, there are the following possibilitys for people having no time :-)
- If you dont know russian, you will probably live in the the hotel intourist. there is a bar at the 4rd flor, packet from 21:00 with rount about 15-25 realy nice women. Price very high, 100USD/Hour, maximum 300 USD/Night (the girls gets 30% of the money).
In the Hotel Europe there are the nicesd girls, also very pricy, from 150USD/Hour. Its very simple, they give you smal visit-cards with there picture and phonenumber.
They have 2-3 tochkas in krasnodar, just ask a taxidriver, they all know the places. Price is 800 Roubles/hour or 2500 Roubles/night.
Girls are ugly, I didn't find a nice one.
Best way is to buy one of the second hand newspapers like "is Ruk W Ruki" or "wse dla tebja". there you have a roubrik "Snakomstwa" where you fill find 30-50 phonenumbers of so called Dispatcher. You just call there and tell what you need, than you say your adress and they are 30mins later there, a car with 5 girls you can choose from.
Mostly they charge 500Roubles/Girl/Hour. the better one is 800/hour.
Girls are from 18-20, not realy beautifully, mostly from the small villages 100-150km away from krasnodar.
Thats it.
p.s. I have been in Kaliningrad, Moscow and in Krasnodar on this trip, everybody told me that the most beautifully girls in SAMARA, anybody here who can tell something about it?
p.s. 2: what happened to the Moscow taxi drivers? last time I payed there max. 200 roubles for long trip, mostly 100 roubles for short trip in the garden ring. Now they tryed to get 400-600 roubles each trip I asked them? What Changed?
What hotels can you bring girls back to?
[QUOTE=Hamburg Willi]Just back from Kaliningrad here some infos.
The most and easyst way to get some nice girls is to buy the second hand newspapers like "Is Ruk i Ruki" or "Jarmarkt".
they call ot "massage"-service but of couse its beautifull pros.
to me it seems girls much more beautifully than in moscow, i was very suprised. (and moscow girls are realy very nice!)
I searched for a good streapteaseclub but did not find one. Taxidrivers dont know, Hotel doesnt know. So a gave up.
Something like a brothel or so also seems to not avaiable. ( I asked 4 taxi drivers)
With the Tochkas i am a little bit afraid of the real strange number of aids-ill people here in this region (also i have save sex, i am afraid).
Thats its :-)
Tomorrow i will fly for two weeks to Krasnodar, hope to find out more infos for you.
CU,
Wolf[/QUOTE]
Hello All:
I went to Norvogard (the Great) in early January 2005 for four days on business. This city has the original Kremlin of Peter the Great and is one of the older cities of Russia. They give tours through the Kremlin and you can visit the Cathedral of Saint Sofia. One unique thing about the Cathedral is the guy that "plays" the bells, he or they are quite good and they even have a tape for sell in the gift shop.
We stayed in a rather expensive hotel about three blocks in front of the Kremlin that was okay but not for the price. They did have girls working the bar in the hotel but they were on the expensive side also, BUT they had no problem with security either. One really great looking blond with a great figure quoted me a price of $250.00 (before negoiation). I thought this was too high so passed on the first night we were there. I then proceeded to the bar in the Kremlin. It has a good cafe upstairs and a bar and smaller cafe in the cellar. Most of the girls are students from the University so be careful on who you approach, but there are usally some working girls in the evening. I found Olga, a slim bruenette with a C chest and after several vodkas we agread on $100.00 for the night. The fun came in getting her back into my hotel. The security guard stopped us and said she had to be registered to go to my room. No problem right? Wrong! They wanted us to fill out a new registration card (could not do this because my host company would have seen the change and different rate for my room). I tried just paying the desk clerk the additional fee without the paper work and they wouldn't go for this. I even offered a little something extra and they still wouldn't go for it. Without a registration, she couldn't go to my room. I offered security a "tip" and still no go. Totally rejected we went outside and she knew of a small business man's hotel about three blocks away and off we went. We registered, I paid and into the room. The room was cheap, but it only had a single bed and was sparse to say the least. BUT we were finally in the room and I could unwrap my late Christmas present. Her face was very pretty but she had had at least one child and her body had seen better days. So a little disappointment but her performance was also not up to what I expected. Everything was covered, and she wasn't the most active either. After about three hours she said she should go home although we had agreed to the whole night. But she wasn't worth the effort to argue with her so I sent her on the way and she left with me right behind her and checking out right away.
The next day with surveyed the government office across the park from the Kremlin and returned to our hotel which was across the park behind the government building. I found a bakery around the block from the hotel and tried some of their treats, they were great. Especially a choclate dipped cake that was shaped like an animal (I have never seen this before in any other place I have visited). We met a couple of other businessmen at dinner and found out they were staying in a modern hotel in another part of town. It has a disco, bar and casino in the hotel and they said the disco is very popular. We checked out their hotel the next day and it was a lot more modern than the older hotel we were staying in. They even had a in door swimning pool and sauna. It was also cheaper than our hotel. They also said it was girl friendly. The food wasn't the greatest there but the bar and disco were packed with women after about 9pm. Mostly non-pros but I saw several that were probably working girls.
We returned to our hotel about 1am and everyone went off to their rooms. Being a little restless, I then went to the bar and the blond was there. So I bought her a drink and we chatted each other up for awhile. She must have remembered that I rejected her $250.00 from the night before because this time she offered $150.00 for the entire night. I accepted and off to the room without more than a glance from security. Her name was Elena with a face of 8 or 9 and a body of 9.9. She was a D or bigger with a perfect ass. We started off with a shower together with a lot of soapy fun and then a bbbj in the shower. We moved onto the bed and she enjoyed DATY immensely! We had non-stop action for over three hours and then fell to sleep in each others arms. Before daylight I was awakened with a bbbj that was a great way to start the day! And then more great sex in every position we could think of. The only thing she wouldn't do was greek. Then we took a shower together and afterwards, she shaved me very expertly for my appointments of the day. She was a great find. I asked why she didn't work the new hotel and she said she lived right around the corner from our hotel and it was convient for her. She was well worth the money and I would not mind a repeat.
We visited the University on our site survey and most of the people we met we very friendly and given enough time you could probably score here easily.
Novogard the Great seemed to be broken up into two main sections. Downtown is around the Kremlin with the government offices, clothing shops, our hotel and even a Baskin Robbins ice cream parlor. Across the river seems to be the never area with two or three bigger hotels and a few good cafes and clubs. It was an interesting city and people were friendly there. Although I did not get the impression that many Americans visited here.
Hope this Helps.
Be Careful and Happy Hunting
Since oil was found on Sakhalin shelf, a lot of foreigners came to Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk and surrounding cities.
Hope this info will be useful for you
Hotels:
A lot of old and new hotels in the city, but it is hard to find a room without booking, 80-150 USD per night. Girls in every hotel, just ask a security for it. Prices - 1500-3000 rubles per hour (50-100USD), night - 300 USD.
Or you can rent an appartment - 500-1000 rub. per day
Agencies:
About 30 agencies, working 24 hours, just buy any newspaper with ads and you'll find their phones on last pages. Prices - from 1000 rub.
Indi:
Girls working by themselves, 500-2000 rub. But you'll need to know Russian to find their ads in newspapers.
If you'll need any help, just ask
I will be leaving for my second grand tour of Russia in about three weeks and need your help! Russian cities other than Saint Petersburg and Moscow do not have much coverage, but I am hoping that some of you have just been tardy in your posting. My next trip will cover 14 cities throughout Russia and I would like any information any of you might have on hotels, cafes, interesting things and naturally places to find girls!
I will be visiting the following cities: Murmansk; Nizhniy Novgorod (Gorky); Perm; Samara; Yekaterinburg; Volgograd; Rostov; Omsk; Ufa; Penza; Krasnodar; Arkhangelsk; Barnaul; and Novosibirsk. The trip will also include many other "villages" in the far east side of Russia.
We will be travelling via train and van mostly, so if any of you have pointers on the train system East of Moscow, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance!
Handyman #2
It is my dream to do the travel as you will do. In september when I was in Piter i reserved the flyticket for Murmansk, then I had so much to do in Piter that I didn't go there, but I think you can find all you need about the northest city above Circus Polar Artic and many very nice foto too, here:
[url]www.murman.ru[/url]
About the train, I guess you think about Transiberian Train, you can find a tons of info on the guide of lonely planet and the same for all the cities you will visit, I bought the two books of Russian European and Russian Asiatic and in these guides for every city you have best place as hotel,restaurant and how to arrive there.
In my opinion Lonely Planet does very good source of info, most of time very useful also for us mongers.
I will wait for your reports and fotos.
Have a nice holiday and nice fun out there!
With a friend we were there again and around midnight, after a beautiful dinner, we got one of the taxis in front a small western style hotel where we usually stay.
With the previous experience I was thinking just to be driven in some soviet block for looking at girls (two three). But this guy was even more clever. Just phoning on his mobile he had around 20 visit card from brothels and in fifteen minutes approximately fifteen girls was in front of the hotel.
So I chose one Russian teen with some more kilos every where (nice big ass and tits with 2 inch nipples!) and my friend a beautiful Tatar-Siberian a real beautiful petite, he told me fucking as a machine. My was a real GFE for the night, but no unfortunately no CIM and no Anal. BBBJ and kissing were allowed.
On ground of time we just had some hours so… I just got a beautiful soft full figured teen for 800 RUR (from 1 AM to 5 AM, 8 USD an hour!) which is less than 30 USD!
It’s still incredible if you go to deep Russia (every small city eastern of Moscow) where foreigners are very few what kind of girls you can get (in our personal tocka they all where 6-9), and obviously no problem with the hotel, just tip the lady with 100 RUR. The only problem is that you have to put lots of money to get there...
Unfortunately I had not the camera in my room, next time.
Hello there:
Anyone has info about Uljanovsk? I will visit it soon and wanna have some bed company
Vell comrads, as ve kross da sea, vrom Vankuvor BC to ze
vild eastern seabord ov da USSR, ve comin to ze great
zity ov Vladivostok.
Since ze olten dayz of ze Kalifornya golt rash,
ziberians look to zis place viz vonder ent ekzitement.
Da, you betta beleev me, you zdupit yonkie mazer fackas!
Jast get a load ov dis blondinka, zdeeking her vine virm oss
op into ze air. Oh hell da, zis von's a keepa!
Hi All,
I was recently in Vladikawkas, probably noone ever will go there, I at least hope so, but if you have to go there, you will stay in the Hotel which is made for the rich. Haha, 50 years ago, I don't remember the name, but it is the only hotel with "western" standard. Just ask the lady or the man at the reception for the sauna and they will offer you their cousin or brother or whatever. I had a great night with the so called "cousin" of the receptionist for 80 Euro the whole night, i even had her bareback, just did not realise bcs it was so much GFE.
Apart from that i cannot recommend to anyone to go there, dangerous and shitty.
Simon
Amorous bull trashes Russian shop (BBC news)
The bull and his mate were not to be disturbed
A stationer's shop in a Russian town is counting the cost of a passionate fling involving a bull which followed a cow after it trotted in from the street.
There may not have been much china in the shop in Pionersk but eight panes of glass got smashed in the process, Russia's Interfax news agency reports.
A startled salesgirl fled outside where help was summoned with a mobile phone.
Yet there was nothing for it but to wait for the "end of the act" after which the pair vacated the premises.
The owners of the shop in the port on the Baltic, in the Kaliningrad region, were counting the damage on Monday as the owners of the offending beasts were sought, local police told Interfax.
So shocked was the salesgirl that she forgot to press the shop's "panic button" in her haste to escape.
Security guards and passers-by gathered in the street but were powerless to intervene.
So for reasons I shall not go into I had to take a detour to Vladivostok. Now some people say this is the SF of Russia, I thought it looked more like a HK of Russia. It is quite a beautiful city other than the fact that it has rained for 10 days now. Now down to the important thing that all you guys are actually interested, yes the girls here are GORGEOUS. Impressive this place is, I sort of think it is a secret jewel of the far east front of Russia. The prices for girls here are amazingly less than girls from Irkutsk and Novosibirisk.
A girl in the bigger cities in Sibera were going for 1000 rubles/hr. In Vladivostok the price was around 700 rubles. For this little detour of mine, met a girl from Harbarovsk named Polina( Not sure if thats spelled correctly ) she works at a Chinese restaurant down near the city center. The girl is probably around 6'1 with dark curly hair that is slightly over shoulder length and a pair of killer legs. Very good figure and the most captivating sweet smile. Well after she kept smiling at me when we were there the first time, I had to stop by again, and the next time she was working there, managed to catch her ( she conveniently made herself available outside keeping her friend company who was having a smoke ) and caught a phone number. So on the day of the date the sun actually came out and was a beautiful day and the evening was even better. Didnt really have to spend alot of money on her, took her to the Italian place down by the beach and a stroll along the water ( bought ice cream at this point ) and the disco on that boat that docks by the beach ( drinks plus some snacks ). A few drinks plus dancing and lots of laughter later, we are back in my hotel room where she is on my bed giving me a very pleasurable blowjob. My guess were size B breasts but just incredible figure, and did I mention long legs? Natural trim between the thighs, but very warm, very wet, and very sweet tasting girl. We continued kissing while we had sex and she seemed the type of girls that enjoys sex. I plan on getting a second date with her again before I have to leave this next week. So Im not sure if all the girls in Vladivostok are this sweet, but they sure grow them cute here.
Oh some important information, the hotel Slavyanskaya here is a bit away from the city center, but this place gets alot of action. Lots of girls come in everynight. Outcall girls though in the little mini buses, usually in groups walking in and out. Hotel Corona down by the center is the same. Get down to a local shopping area and grab the free advertising paper that people hand you and look in the middle. The ads are very obivous, sort of like the LA Xpress back home in LA. A picture of a model girl plus a phone number to call. Give her the hotel name and room number ( best do this in Russian ).
Other information for first timers here, I dont want you to get ripped off like I did ( but that is how it works for first timers in a new city ) Taxi standard fees are usually 150 rubles for almost everywhere within the city center and you can negotiate down to 100 for most of the hotels in and around the center area. I paid 250 for my first cab ride when I got off the train. Heed my advice and dont end up joining the sucker club in Vladivostok, current member 1. Also in Vladivostok you can just hail cars on the side of the street, usually the folks who have free time and want to make an extra buck. Their prices are not necessary cheaper.
1346... Great info... THANKS!
Now I only have to figure out how to get for Moscow to Vladivostok without having to fly Aeroflot!
[QUOTE=CA Traveler]1346... Great info... THANKS!
Now I only have to figure out how to get for Moscow to Vladivostok without having to fly Aeroflot![/QUOTE]CA Traveler,
Aeroflot Moscow-Vladivostok is ok. I went there a few times. Brand new Airbus 320. Onboard service resonable. Actually Aeroflot itself has the youngerst fleet in Europe. Where you have to take care is with the regional aeroflots, e.g. Aeroflot-Don, Kuban-Airways etc.
I am going to Vladivostok next week again. Actually difficult to find pros (I did not come across strip nigth clubs on my 2 previous visits there), but many girls in the bars (non-pros), and possible to get a date, but one to work a little bit for it.
Himself
We are waiting for your report about Vladivostok, could write us some lines maybe with some pics?
Thanks in advance!
Can anyone tell me about the P4P action in the Korsk area?
[QUOTE=Himself]Aeroflot Moscow-Vladivostok is ok. I went there a few times. Brand new Airbus 320. Onboard service resonable. Actually Aeroflot itself has the youngerst fleet in Europe. Where you have to take care is with the regional aeroflots, e.g. Aeroflot-Don, Kuban-Airways etc.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Aeroflot uses Boeing 767s for that route, an Airbus 320 can't fly anywhere close to the 8 hours required for this route.
[QUOTE=Steve H]Unless you speak Russia, it's almost impossible to get laid in Siberia. based on my exprience. In addition, the hotel securiy usually doesn't allow girl to stay.[/QUOTE]
It is indeed tough to get girls into your hotel room, but most Russian cities have extensive apartment style brothels, at a reasonable cost. Novosibirsk is no exception.
Well, how hard is it to just get an apartment in places like Novosibirsk,
Samara, Nizhny Nov, etc.?
No one's "watching" who you bring inside, right? Well, maybe the security mama, but you just give her a smile, maybe a couple rubles and a beer!
No problem, even when you start bringing a different girl every mornng and afternoon, sometimes 2 at a time. Maybe at some point, she offers
you some viagra!
There are, in fact, girls in the hotel bar at Hotel Sibir. The quoted cost is $150 but I got it down to $100. That's probably too expensive for Siberia, but my Russian is not that great and these girls are as good as I've seen in Kyiv or Moskva. Had a romp with a red-headed big-breasted stunner that I'll likely never forget. Got her number and did it again off hours at a neutral place the next day, no charge. As previously reported, there aren't many girls -- I think I saw a maximum of five one night, none on Sunday or Monday -- but all are sweet and 9-10. Sweet talk the momma, buy her a glass of wine perhaps, and the whole transaction is all the smoother. (By the way, if you ask the girls if they want something to drink, the first thing they will angle you for is Moet. Better to just order a drink for them or cut straight to the chase.)
No security fee, no hidden costs. Just wild Siberian sex.
Also had a freebie from a crazy brunetka I met at Alpen Grotte. Spoke no English whatsoever, was only 18 years old (for which I'm surely going to hell for) and was about the cutest thing I'd seen all day. Huge eyes, gentle and well-built, inexperienced but thankful, especially for time spent downstairs. Dragged myself back to the hotel at 6:30 am, walking the walk of shame past the receptionists and back out for work at 9:00 am.
Never did try any saunas, mostly because I didn't find any information on them until my last day there. It's good thing cause I'm not sure I would have been able to get any work done. These Siberians are warriors.
But for who goes for first time in Siberia, where it is possible to find flat for one week? In which address on net? Ot better to go straight to agency travel and ask for it?
Thanks in advance.
Is there any action in Kursk?
I am going to be there in about 2 weeks for a few days.
Any info will be greatly appreciated.
The best domestic travel agency i have found in Russia is [url]http://www.infinity.ru/[/url]
I have been stunned at there good service and cheap airfares.
They have recently won European Travel Awards.
They offer 2 types of airfares. One is normal and the other is fixed and much cheaper and must be booked ahead. So if you know your dates of travel and are going to stick to them, then that is the fare for you. There website allows you to choose which airfare and airline etc.
They also offer international airfares at lower than other countries.
They have an office in Moscow and you can also do the whole process online.
I hope prices you quoted in Nov-sk for LT. Even that it's too much. I guess for language knoweledge they drop prices 2-3 times.
Hello mongers,
Will go to Ekaterinburg in some weeks. As it is my first time there and this board does not have much information on the city, I would appreciate any comments how and where to find girls. Any information is welcomed.
Thanks in advance,
Hans
I was in E-kat for four days this summer and, though this city is somewhat interesting as a tourist, I found it extremely difficult to maneuver in terms of women. Just walking around I just didn't see that many quality dyevs, far below other parts of Russia. In fact it was probably the worst city -- in terms of girls -- I've experienced in the CIS. And the city is way more expensive than you would expect.
Still, now that school is back in session it should be different.
Klitchkov --
The prices I quoted were for the Hotel Sibirsk girls. I'm sure you can get lower elsewhere but I'm not sure you will see the same quality. I feel $100 or even $150 is great value for these women (all 8s-10s).
It was $30/hour in Hotel Novosibirsk (near Central Train station) which is more upscale than Hotel Sibir' with quality of girls accordingly.
Klitchkov --
Good news on the pricing. I'm sure lots of people will be happy to read that.
On the other hand, I have stayed at both the Hotel Novosibirsk and the Hotel Sibir and there is really no comparison. The former is, at best, a 2-star hotel while the Sibir is roughly a 4-star. In my opinion, the hotel girls trended similarly.
Hi,
I am going to take a business trip in Central Russia and would really appreciate any info regarding the girl scene especially in Kazan and Ufa.
Ok. As you wish. That's your $. I guess it's good for you.
For me they are ok b/c mostly they are all local students. Although yours maybe with golden pussies:)
By the way I hope we are talking about same hotel Sibir--there may be several with similar names. Also in every hotel now there are so called 2*, 3*,4* floors/rooms. It's sounds like joke--- in No-sk 4* hotel. Can't emagine service there:)
But as I said, let's stop--there's no point to continue.
On this level of P4P there is same pool of the girls working for and covered by same kinda people. If there's a need they just moving girls between apartments/spa, hotels and sometimes high quality saunas. Of course they have guards and transportation. If you talk to girls after f***g they would tell you what places they are covering.
I'm out.
Hello,
Does anybody know a place where to get a massage or an intercourse?
I'm going to Saransk next week and would be happy about any hint!
Where is the right place to go?
Thanks for your reply. Meanwhile i was in Ekaterinburg and unfortunately you are more than right. Generally women are much less attractive than in other parts of Russia or eastern europe and the city is more dirty and expensive than many other places I have been. Definately no place for mongering if I compare what I have seen in Russia before.
[QUOTE=Zizz Bang]I was in E-kat for four days this summer and, though this city is somewhat interesting as a tourist, I found it extremely difficult to maneuver in terms of women. Just walking around I just didn't see that many quality dyevs, far below other parts of Russia. In fact it was probably the worst city -- in terms of girls -- I've experienced in the CIS. And the city is way more expensive than you would expect.
Still, now that school is back in session it should be different.[/QUOTE]
I know its a long shot, but anybody ever been to Irkutsk? Any word on hotels or apartments... or action? I have to go there, in winter, and am wondering how in the hell I am going to keep warm... besides the vodka of course.
DS I had this report on my information database. Moreover I saw less than 2 months ago a TV Broadcast on a businessman working in Russia from Moscow and visiting Irkutsk for finding new business opportunities.
According what he explained and what we saw. It seems that Irkutsk is not a very modern and renovated city ! But there are some more modern commercial centers downtown.
I am sure ithat with your knowlege of russian and russia t would be very easy to find some enthusiastic freebies. As for P4P it should be the usual hotels and sayne i banya !
It obviously depends on how much time you stay there. Anyway you should be a rarity there.
Irkutsk Escort Review Wed Mar 20 2002 Submitted by: Dicky
I was in Irkutsk in Siberia recently. I wandered the streets but saw no action. As it happened, my colleague and I were finishing a meeting in the Hotel Rus restaurant, when 2 very attractive girls came in and sat down. We approached them to say hello, not knowing what they were (ie. pros or not). They asked us to sit down and we bought them a drink and chatted. we offered to take them out to a bar but one suggested we go to her flat instead, which we did, after one of the girls rang for a taxi.
The flat was on the outskirts of town in a big soviet era block. We then entered protracted discussions, eventually establishing they "needed a man", and quoted a price of $70 which I negotiated down to $50. We went each couple into separate rooms and had a nice time. They were both about 25, single mothers with young children to support and seemed to be on the game part time to make ends meet. One spoke some English and we got by in a mixture of English and Russian. We got a taxi back to the hotel and there were no safety problems.
SG:
Thanks for the info. I am curious, although I suspect I know what to expect, I've navigated that kind of town before. Still, until I've been there I'm flying blind.
My worry is girl-friendly hotel or apartment... I am not interested in hotel in-house stock, that's like shooting fish in a barrel and against my sporting nature... I find however that the typical "pick-up bar" with pros does not really exist in most Russian cities, at least not on an interesting scale. So probably salons and saunas... plus chasing freebies in clubs... neither of which is a bad option...
Doc.
Are ya flying or taking the TSR?
How much is it for the RT flight and how many hours?
My travel agent told me that Irkutsk is full of German tourists (retirees with tour groups, not sex tourists like us) in the summer because they want to see lake Baikal. However, Irkutsk is very very cold in the winter, probably not conducive for freebies because people won't be hanging outside.
Bez,
I'll provide full report later, but it'll be Jan/Feb before I go. Maybe I'll watch the Super Bowl there... :)
I am flying through Moscow or Novo as a hub, although you could also fly Frankfurt-Novo-Irk.
From Moscow Irkutsk is about 5 1/2 hours. The RT flight from Moscow is about $350.
From Novo Irkutsk is just over 2 hours. The RT flight from Novo is about $200.
All prices Aeroflot or Sibair.
I've been thinking about riding the TSR across Russia for some time now. While I don't have any immediate plans on going on the adventure, I'm interested if there is much action going on on the train. Very little if anything like that is mentioned in the travel guides. It would be nice to have warm body or two lying next to me. Any of your detailed exploits would be appreciated.
Mulligan
I did the trip back in 2002, from Moscow to Vladivostok, there is no action what so ever on the train, but a bunch of happy friendly people and great fun. If you can work out a visa that let you stay on some of the mid-sized cities along the road that might be another ballgame, but as mentioned, no pros on the train
Regards
I will be back in Irkutsk again in approximately 2 weeks. I have travelled through there quite a few times. Like many people said, the city is quite backwards, but the prices are often rediculous in terms of lodging and food. In the city center is hotel Angara, that is their largest hotel right around the government area. Late night phone calls are guaranteed. Asking rate is 1000 rubles for 1 hour of fun. As to wandering the streets for action, havent really had much opportunity to do so. Being young myself I usually wander into the universities and try to make friends there. Conveniently, if you stay at hotel Angara, you will notice alot of very young beautiful nuble Siberian girls wandering the streets catching the bus. That is because across the very large traffic circle with the park in the middle is the local language university. I really prefer having a bunch of buddies with me as we pick up on local girls. So far only been out there all alone.... but of course none of you guys usually come out to Siberia. Tsk tsk. Hotel action is guaranteed. Alot of the cabbies parked outside will know a thing or two about djievs if you ask them. Tip them 100 rubles should be sufficient.
The promenade area has quite a few clubs, Stratosphere, Megapolis. Going dancing there is always a better way to meet girls, but usually girls go there in groups, with guys. So again being on my own out there most of the time isnt that much fun picking up on girls. I do have some friends out there, a couple of girls I know who just graduated from university and now work. But usually hanging out with them makes it unfeasable to hunt elsewhere.
Member 1346:
Thanks for the info on Irkutsk. Nice to have a few more pieces to the puzzle.
"Late night phone calls are guaranteed. Asking rate is 1000 rubles for 1 hour of fun."
Have you ever used this "service"? How was quality and service?
You mention Hotel Angara, do you have other experiences with hotels there, such as Best Eastern Sun Hotel or Baikal Business Centre?? Any chance to bring normal girls back from discos to the hotel? Or do you have to bribe the doorman/security or pay for an extra occupant?
Sun Hotel and Baikal Business Centre seem to be the nicest in town, but are actually located outside of town.... impractical for disco trawling.
There are a couple of bed and breakfasts, any word on these as a girl-friendly option?
Any info helps, thanks!
waster99... I'd like to clarify your comment about the tsr... You said if you could work out a visa that would allow you to stop and visit cities along the way.
As I understand it, any tourist or business visa, will allow you to go almost anyplace in Russia. Of course, some places may be restricted just like in the USA, i.e. military bases, etc. That said, you may still need a double entry visa if you plan to wind up in Mongolia or China and then return to Russia.
The biggest problem that I would see would be to get your tickets arranged so you can stop since the tsr does not allow off and on priviledges. So, you would have to plan for all of your stop overs in advance to ensure that you have a confirmed reservation all the way. Otherwise you could be stuck in some forgotten hell hole of a town in the middle of nowhere waiting for a seat to open up.
My experience is that there are more or less always seats on the TSR, maybe July and August are to be avoid, but otherwise you should be able to jump on and off, I am not aware of how the tickets works then. I asume you cold arrange it before hand in Moscow, but you'll need a very good translator and hours of negos. Buying ticket is not easy in the first place, and adding things like stop overs is maybe more or less impossible. I did the whole trip in ones, so I don't really know, but no pros at the train.
Take Care
I don't know if somebody here knows english, but this link is very good, you can "build" your travel and decide where and how long to stop, and decide if to sleep in hotel or in family with bed and breakfast.
[url]http://www.transiberiana.com/[/url]
Price are not cheap, but it is just my impression.
From Emule I downloaded 114 minutes of documentary about Tsr, in english language and with amazing images of Train in Siberia and close to Bajkal.
Luka
Ulyanovsk is a crappy town, full of rotting wooden buildings and people who still think Lenin was the best. But the *****s are cheap. Around 11 p.m. at the hotel Venets (all spellings appx. of course) the phones start ringing up and down the hallway. Starting price: 4000 rb all night. After haggling, my girl got 1000 rb for a very long night's work. The only hidden costs were 70 rb for a long taxi ride (don't you love the provinces?) and 140 rb for a bottle of foul wine which was so awful that I didn't take more than a sip -- she pound back the whole thing herself. She was an unemployed midwife, 26 years old, living in your typically hellish apartment in the suburbs. We went to her place because the hotel has recently started cracking down on the flesh trade, installing security cameras to make sure all comings and goings are noted, and thus requiring more expensive bribes.
The girl herself wasn't anything special. She was probably lying about her age, and years of this work combined with an abortion meant she was pretty loose. But she had real appeal as a classic *****, with a giant black wig covering her straggly shoulder-length hair, too much red on her Angelina Jolie lips, way too much eyeshadow. Perky, ample breasts were the redeeming feature, along with her enthusiasm and endurance. She showed me a picture of her (much hotter) blonde friend and said they sometimes work as a tandem. I never found time to take her up on the offer, but I've still got her mobile number if you're interested.
Hey forget the cheap slag and her foul wine.
We're much more interested in how you find employment
in a greasy spot like Simbirsk on the mighty Volga?
Please, some logistics on getting there, etc.
Also, any observations on Tatar chicks?
You can spend 13 hours on a stinking train, or fly an hour and a half from my favourite Russian airport, Domodedovo. I'd fly.
Hotel Venets is located on Ul. Sovetskaya, 19/9. The freshly renovated rooms (ask for them) offer your standard Western comforts, and there's a decent cafe, but the hotel staff suffer from a delusion that they're working at a high-class joint. Other logistics are identical to Moscow, except vastly cheaper. Don't pay any cab driver more than 100 roubles.
And sorry Bez, but I'm bez explanation for my presence in Ulyanovsk. What can I tell you? I'm new to this game.
The Ulyanovsk girl was Tatar. Thankfully, not all of them have hairy lips and backs. There's nothing worse than seeing a dusky beauty in a bar, looking down at her low-rise jeans, and noticing fuzzy dark hair growing just above her butt cheeks. But yes, such dark-eyed darlings are thick on the ground here. Many of them are probably untouchable because they're Muslim but it's fun to try.
Ufa is a big university town, with a healthy supply of blonde Russians, dark-haired Tatars, and various lovely mixes. If you speak good Russian, ask a taxi driver to take you to the biggest club in town and enjoy an industrial complex full of models who actually smile at you. For something more tawdry, I searched the sextalk.ru archive to get a ballpark idea of Ufa's prices. Then I call a number from an advertisement in the back pages of "Ekstra," a free newspaper. Plenty of numbers there, but only one establishment prosperous enough to break out of the classifieds text and buy a proper ad. Calls itself "VIP-CLUB Iskusheniye," with phone numbers but no address. A polite girl on the phone gives the address (Mendeleeva 171/1) and the taxi across town costs 100 rb. The taxi driver doesn't ask for more, even though his hunt for the address takes him through an endless maze of crappy apartment blocks and rutted lanes. The place is near the end of a laneway running alongside a shantytown market, inside one of those video lottery casinos. The green neon sign doesn't give any hint that you will find anything except slot machines inside.
A door on the left side of the building's front leads you to a small lobby, where a heavyset guy in a pinstripe suit with dandruff on his collar grins and invites you to play the gambling machines through a doorway on your right. But he smiles broadly when you tell him "nyet, mozhna club" and shows you a small list of club rules. Don't bother reading the rules because they're happily ignored. Pinstripe takes your jacket, ushers you through curtains, up two flights of stairs, and towards the sound of dance music. It's probably the ugliest club in the city -- painted dark, with ultraviolet light and glowing cartoons of naked women on the walls. At midnight during my visit last month, it was entirely empty except for a bunch of working girls. A cute hostess demands an entrance fee of 3000 rb. You sit in one of the big vinyl booths facing a stage with two poles, and the girls start their show. First they dance together, then show off their moves one by one. Those who aren't on stage are crowding into your booth and asking for drinks, but they're pretty restrained about extorting booze, ringing up a bill of maybe 200 rb. Wouldn't recommend the food items on the menu, and can't review the crazy menu because I didn't bother with it. When pressed, the girls admit that the crazy menu is mostly a joke, from the 200 rb. fee for dancing with a girl, to the rediculous 10,000 rb fee for taking a girl home, to the millions required to "buy the club." Your 3,000 entrance fee already includes a "one hour massage," and maybe the girls use this euphemism to reject ugly drunkards. But for everybody else, what's really happening here is a straightforward brothel business. The dances are auditions, as the girls blow kisses, simulate sex onstage, and otherwise try to persuade you to pick them. You get asked whether you require tolka adna deyevushka or a more expensive team effort. The eight girls ranged from hot-slutty-snaggletooth to smokin-classic-hot.
I chose the hottest, a skinny blonde with an ass that could bring a man to tears. (She claimed, credibly, to be 21 years old.) Took me to a private room with a comfortable double bed and modern shower stall, and she signalled this wasn't a massage parlour by putting a few condoms on the bedside table. A sensual scrub in the shower, short HJ with soap, then an amateurish massage. Flipped me over, CBJ, DATY, and straight sex in various positions for almost two hours. No anal, but didn't ask. She was tender, French kissed, but strangely submissive. Spoke absolutely no English and was probably used to rough treatment from the locals. Another scrub-down afterwards. Like all the girls, she was bemused by the presence of a foreigner. As we dried each other after the final shower -- and the hostess banged on the door to make sure we didn't stay too long -- she looked at me with something like shyness and asked: "Did you like your massage?" She didn't even request a tip.
A bittersweet epilogue: A gang of loud, drunk Russians swarmed into the place as I was leaving, and the hostess recruited my girl to entertain them. She looked a little guilty about joining them. She put me in a booth, brought me tea, and flitted between me and the Russians for a while. It's funny how a couple hours of intimacy can make you forget you're dealing with a professional, and I felt a twinge of jealousy. Gulped my tea, and walked out the door. She chased after me and gave me a kiss outside before going back to repeat her performance with somebody else. I regretted the mental image of those guys' big hands on her pert breasts. Still, I wasn't lying to the hostess when she asked whether I'd revisit the place. Will probably return someday.
I've got a mobile number for the hostess but you don't need it.
Hi team!
Any recent recommendations on girl-friendly hotels or apartment services in Novosibirsk?
Am looking to book soon and dont yet know which place to stay... any help wouzld be appreciated, thanks!
wash... nice report on Ufa. Don't know when or if I'll ever get there but you can be sure I will carry a print out of your pioneering effort when I do!
Fate has put me in Hotel Novosibirsk in February. Hotel Sibir, supposedly the top hotel in the city, was completely booked out. So far no luck on apartments either, although I'll try to switch to an apartment during my stay.
I assume that Hotel Novosibirsk is girl-UNfriendly...
Anybody have any info on Hotel Novosibirsk or any apartment agencies?
Any other info, such as salons or clubs, or Hotel Novosibirsk bar girls?
Thanks!
Hello Doc,
In 14 day's I will travel, with some friends, by train to Irkutsk. We'll stop in Yekatarinaburg and Novosibirsk. In Novosibirsk I booked 2 apartments with [url]http://eng.olympia-reisen.ru/hotel[/url]
I don't know the service and the quality of the apartments, but according to the pictures, it is the same standard as in Moscow or St Petersburg.
Surcher
Havent been on this wire for some time I decided to make a post in the Chinese side. I havent been into Russia for awhile now so considering how often their politics change, who knows about djievs? The Sun Hotel is very far on the outskirts of town, I havent stayed there. I have only stayed in the Angara and I tried a girl once, but I wouldnt accept one via phone call uh-uh tsk-tsk! Go hang out on the stairs while having a cigarette, the girls always go out there to have a smoke. This way I can start talking to them first and alot of them speak English because......they go the that language university across the street! Tada! So yes this way you can chat up your girl and choose instead of waiting for 2 to show up at your door just so you can turn them down because they arent your "style". Once I went out there to have a smoke and a blonde girl that was about a 6 was also out there. We talked for about 5 minutes and after her cigarette she actually walked up to me and asked me which room I was in while stroking my arm. I asked her why because I wasnt all that interested in her but her reply in broken Russian accented English of " so...we can have sex." was definately tempting. Problem is, this is a hit and miss, you might not catch them out there. FYI, most hotels that offer girls you can find the girls hanging out somewhere outside in the lobby, outside, just make eye contact. She will approach you. Tried one girl, but I think the girls change quite frequently so no point in posting names here unless I had phone numbers which presents the other problem, Alot of Russian people change their phone numbers faster than I change a pair of jeans. The girl I tried was Alana, brunette, with very full lips and very red lipstick. She was 5'11 easily and wore glasses, we chatted and she even tried on my sun glasses. I turned the conversation to her school and her working late nights, and massaged her neck for a bit and not long after that her pair of very red lips was sucking vigourously on my shaft while my hands were cupping her C size breasts. I noticed the girls out here like to talk first, they dont like to get down to business. I think they want to get to know you. Its up to you to turn the conversation towards something more....saucy.
Regarding the clubs, havent really tried it there as I said I have always been with female friends while at the clubs. Seems more probable if I was with one of you guys.
Doc,
I stranded for two days in Novosibirsk in the summer of 2004. I was flying from Krasnodar to Vladivostok and wnated to avoid Moscow, so our local company in Krasnodar booked me on a plane from Krasnodor to Novosibirsk with 5 hours connecting time for the plane Novosibirsk-Vladivostok. However, the plane from Krasnodar was 3 hours late (which I expected) but the plane to Vladivostok left 2 hours EARLIER - in other words I lost the plane and had to wait for two days.
I booked myself into Hotel Sibir - all services was avalible at the bar at the reception at some 30USD/hour or 70-90 for 5 hours (as far as I remember). However on the first day I bumped into a nice freebee at a burger bar and she stayed with me for the rest of my unexcepted stay which in total was a damage of about 100USD in eating, drinking and giving her some presents. In addition I had to upgrade my room to a doubleroom which was as little as 10USD.
What more important is that she told me that hotel Novosibirsk is a diasater, not safe and substandard (if a Russian tells you something is sub then zou should really worry!)
We went to some clubs with some striptease in the center of the town where I noted a number of discrete working girl, so this exsists, but I didn't pursue the options as my hands litterally speaking was full as my blond freebee had was well equiped with two big melons all natural (this is what I like in CIS I never bumped into any silicone but will come one with the inflation etc.)
Enjoy
Himself
Thanks all for your help!
I've made a couple of local contacts there who have also told me to avoid Hotel Novosibirsk, but I am curious now so I'll stay there for one night... old Soviet hotels can be fun... but its the kind of fun that wears off after a day or two. After 1 night I will move into an apartment. The apartments dont look like much (I also found another link [url]www.rentline.ru[/url]) as well. My contact steered me towards a couple of private hotels (no website) which are reportedly nicer, but also booked. :(
As for hotel prices, there is a trade fair going on during my stay and the prices are ridiculously high... $200/night for a 3 star hotel... :) They flat out told me they increase their prices during trade fairs, but thats standard practice anywhere.
I'll report after I return in mid-Feb... hope my first contact pans out, she looks like Scarlett Johannsen... :)
Hello fellows,
SOmebody has been in Petrozavodsk? What happen there?
Hello all, I met one girl from this city on Black Sea, everybody was here or just has some info if it worth it to spend some days to enjoy the good weather at the sea in Russia?
Or better to Sochi?
May be Novorossiysk is not a beaten track,so it is possible to find there good treasure?
What the opinion of "masters" of Russia?
Thanks in advance!
Luka
luk... don't know this place, but everyone tells me that Sochi is terrible in the summer.
Instead, I suggest the Crimea, i.e. Yalta, or come to Odessa and visit me. You won't even need a visa in Ukraine.
guido888 shared some of your adventures in Spb... you're always welcome in Odessa for a visit. 1 May to end of September are great here. PM me if you decide to head this way.
Thanks very much CA Traveler !!!
I know you and guido888 met and had great time out there and for me it is a pleasure to be invited to meet from a master as you are.
To tell the truth everything started cause I wanted to go to Bajkal to enjoy summer in Russia, but it is pretty far and not much info about it are available, so then I thought about black sea in Russia and Sochi and I met this girl from Novorossiysk.
Why Sochi is horrible? About what exactly? Just curious.
Yes about visa, you are right, much better UA instead Russia and also from my very little experience about UA, 2 days in Uzhorod last july (by car..), I get the idea that are much better UA girls than Russian about beauty, even if personally, now I speak about my experience in internet, I will trust more to Russian girls, but I will surely consider the option of ODS.
The only 'masters' around here are masturbators.
Novorossiysk.
If you're a homo and you want to pick up russian fleet sailors,
this is where you should go. Maybe you could hit on some lonely
dyevs when the fleet is NOT in port, you'll need to know their
schedule, so it would help if you're an FSB intel officer, but
these port *****s are probably even skankier than Odeca port
*****s. The only other attractions are the oil pipeline terminal,
if you're into watching oil, and massive WWII memorials to where
the Red Army held out against 7 months of Wermacht invasion.
Its the end of the line.
Sochi.
The Daytona of the Motherland.
Besides the Czar's dachas, now occupied by Putin, the
bigger hotels, including a Radisson, have discos. You know
what that means! Leather-heads and pizda. The beach is
lined with shops and cafes, and like Odeca, its pebbly not
sandy.
Peak mongering would be July/August, but without hotel
reservations, don't expect to find available accomodation
without difficulty, again same as Odeca and Yalta.
CaT- I was NOT only talking about port *****s. Just comparing
Russian port *****s to Ukrainina port *****s. I didn't try either,
just heard plenty of warnings from locals to avoid them unless
you want disease. My best luck was with the VIP agency that
you don't ever mention, and then trying to meet a friend of a
friend, but unfortunately I had to overpay, since my time was so
limited. That speaks to my exposure only to public beaches as well,
I just wan't there long enough to visit 'private beaches', though
I thought that Arcadia was sandy, but I just can't remember.
bez... Ah... You forget those who are "masters of their own domain"!
Secondly, if you think all ODS beaches are pebbles, you obviously have been going to the "public" beaches and not the "private" beaches.
More importantly if you judge ODS by the port hos, then you have totally mis-judged Odessa. OR, if that is your tilt, then you need to look no further.
You are however spot on about needing reservations in July and August in and out of all of the beach cities because that is high season and prime time all around the Black Sea. In addition, IMHO, the beauty of the RU women and the Ukrainian women are near comparable, but the attitude of the Ukrainian women win hands down... at least from my meager experience.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Hello all, I met one girl from this city on Black Sea, everybody was here or just has some info if it worth it to spend some days to enjoy the good weather at the sea in Russia?
Or better to Sochi?
May be Novorossiysk is not a beaten track,so it is possible to find there good treasure?
What the opinion of "masters" of Russia?
Thanks in advance!
Luka[/QUOTE]None of the places are good mongering, but 15 km south of Novorossiysk there is a top hotel: [url]http://www.nadezhda.ru/[/url] . If your girlfriendis nice and you want to spend some nice time with her in a luxus hotel for relative small money then this is the place.
Stayed there 4-5 times and there is always a couple of girls in the bar but they suggest 100USD/hour, which I do not even want to discuss about, so normally I go to the casino at hotel Novorossiysk where the selection and prices are better and bring them out to the Nadezha hotel. Hotel is fully GF.
In this region I think Krasnodar is the best mongering destination.
Himself
Doc,
This link might be useful when you put your feet on ground in Novosibirsk:
[url]http://sibirintim.com/[/url]
Himself
I went to Kaluga, and stayed in the completely renovated Kaluga Hotel, its as if the Leyva had been refurbished and now looked like the Omni Hotel in San Diego. The only problem was that there was no heat in the room, and it was -25C outside. Really fucking cold.
So, I went down to the bar and picked up a working girl, kind of expensive at $50, but it was Saturday night and really cold in the room (did I mention that?). So, up we went for the standard 60 minute Russian treatment. If you haven't read my prior posts, Russian service is 2 pops, a quick one up front, and then a slow one. There was no way I was going to do 2 pops in that cold (any part of my body that stuck out of the tiny blanket on my bed started getting numb), so I went for one long, well maybe not so long, pop.
The girl claimed to be 18, but was probably in her early 20s, no English, nice figure, orange hair, big chest, but they weren't particularly firm, nicely shaved down below. A little on the heavy side, but firm all over.
The cold became a real problem for me, even with the chica in bed, so I finally opted for a covered BJ to finish me off, with her on her knews, ass out of the covers, and me fingering her, that did the trick after a while. After I let her out, I fell asleep within 2 minutes, so everything worked out OK, except that I woke up surrounded by icicles.
Doc Skank,
You've probably cemented your February lodging plans in Novosibirsk by now but I thought I'd offer some observations for you and the other WSG members on the city from my excursion to Siberia back in September 2004 when I was a novice (and clueless) part-time hobbyist.
Like you, I originally wanted to stay at the city's finest hotel (The Sibir) but it was booked solid since Novosibirsk is the largest city in Siberia, the regional/provincial capitol, as well as an industrial and transportation hub so everyone who's anyone stays at Hotel Sibir (where tired mongers/guests can find companionship for the night in the lobby bar depending on what day of the week it is). Instead, the kind English-speaking staff at the Sibir handed me off to the non-English-speaking staff at the Hotel Novosibirsk who set me up in a Western-standard renovated room which was about $100 more per night than the Soviet-style rooms down the hall on the same floor (half the 23 story building had been renovated in 2004 and have left untouched).
Hotel Novosibirsk is safe and located directly accross the street from the city's train station/commuter bus depot (see photo). As with anything located near a train/bus station in the former Soviet Union, you should keep your head on a swivel while in the area but since you're an old East European hand, you won't have any trouble (hell, I can think of plenty of neighborhoods and downtowns where strange foreign languages are spoken here in my state of Florida that are far more dangerous than anywhere in Novosibirsk at night). Anyway, the Hotel Novosibirsk room rate includes breakfast in the lobby bar/canteen where I suspect you can also find company for the night if your dyev radar is switched on (mine wasn't yet fully wired up back in 2004).
In addition to Himself's [url]http://sibirintim.com/[/url] link, another apartment/salon/escort service mentioned in the WSG Archives from years ago still seems to be up and running: [url]http://www.zvoni.org[/url]. I didn't try it and to tell you the truth, the dyev's don't look too appealing to me. Anyway, being Doctor Skank, you won't need the rent-a-bride option in Novsibirsk just head down to the city's main drag called Ulitsa Lenina (what else would it be called?) where all your dancing, drinking, dining, and dyevving options are located. A restaurant I recommend is "Zhily Bili" (1 Ulitsa Lenina, 1100-2300 daily) which is an upscale Siberian peasant village themed version of Yolki Palki in Moscow -- great food, drinks, and service.
I remember having dinner at Zhily Bili on my last night in Novo before taking the 20 hour Trans-Siberian Railway train ride to Ekaterinburg (which is a much nicer town than Novo -- Novo's Soviet-era architecture is falling-apart crap!) and watching the prosperous local familes and couples enjoy a mid-week night on the town. My waitress was young and "cute" (in the way that a young Cracker Barrel waitress in a provincial Georgia truckstop along I-75 might be "cute" -- 5 or 6 out of 10 -- but only due to the blossom of fleeting youth). Anyway, the restuarant was busy and she was busting her ass at her job as people on the lowest rungs in a capitalist economy typically do at Cracker Barrels in Siberia and having done that kind of ass-kissing restaurant service work myself in college and as a multi-unit fast food franchisee owner/operator in the States, I sympathised with her station in life and admired both her work ethic and her fine Russian ass clothed in a peasant themed waitress uniform as she took orders, brought food, and cleared customers' plates away during the course of my meal.
So, as I finish eating my satisfying dinner, my peasant waitress girl brings my bill (about 700+ RR) and I pay her with a 1000 ruble note and get up to go down stairs into the frigid, lonely street. But before I can get to the head of the stairs, she comes running up to me with my RR300 change and I wave her away saying "dlya vas" (for you) and she doesn't seem to understand so I say "za chai" (as a tip). Her eyes get wide and she slowly says "S-P-A-A-A-S-I-I-I-B-A-A-A" while executing a little curtsey as if we were living 100 years ago and somebody just introduced me to her as some distant relative of the Tzar. Had I been more dyev savvy at the time, I'm sure I could have had Zhili Bili peasant waitress "take out" when she got off work.
Continuing our little tour of Novosibirsk (for a city of 1.5 million people, there's really not much to do here), keep walking east on main street (Ulitsa Lenina) until you get to Lenin Square where there's a big statue of you-know-who surrounded by a cast of happy Soviet characters who look like they're directing traffic along Krasny Prospect in front of the Opera and Ballet Theatre. It's in this park that things get interesting in Novo since this is where everyone hangs out in the evenings after work and school (at least in warmer weather). It's been my experience that if you're looking for a local street walker, free lancer, or part-timer anywhere in Eastern Europe you need to find the city's public square/park; indeed, it doesn't matter whether the statue is of a Christianizing king in Prague's Wenceslas Square or a Com***ist commissar in Siberia, at the base of these statues is where you'll find the working girls -- I promise!
Now, the working girls may not be there every night and maybe not in enough numbers for every Ivan, Pavel, and Tomaz who's shopping for a short-term bride but Lenin Square is where you'll find the local street talent in downtown Novo. But you have to make a decision quickly because the girls get scooped up FAST! Since it was already getting cold in late September when I visited the city I noticed the girls who stood on Lenin's plinth (like on a theatre stage) dressed, while waiting for that night's "date", like you'd expect a working girl to dress and without much regard to covering up against the bitter weather so it wasn't hard to discern who's working and who's just hanging out in the park waiting for a girlfriend to share a sweet-tasting vodka cooler and smoke with.
Something else struck me as I watched the crowds in this park during my first trip to Russia back in 2004: "Where are all the men?" I thought. Christ, you go to Istanbul or Riyadh and you ask yourself, "Where are all the women in this society?" But in Novo, it's the exact opposite -- there are no working-aged men (they even have to import skilled Turkish labor to do construction work)! There's just teenaged boys, old men pensioners, and park bench after park bench full of very average-looking, dull-office-job holding, twenty and thirty-something dyevs who clearly have no prospect of finding a husband or having a child with a stable, sober, financially-secure man! That was a shock to me. I realized that so many things in Russia are the mirror image (the exact opposite) of what they are in the US -- I mean police in the U.S. are "good" while militsia in Russia are "bad"; 40 year old women can date 23 year old guys in the U.S. while 40 year old men can date 23 year old girls in Russia; everyday is "Woman's Day" the U.S. while everyday is "Men's Day" in Russia; and on and on...
Anyway, Doc Skank, I hope you worked the internet personals and found some dyev company for your business trip to Novosibirsk later this month because other than clubbing, eating, drinking, and screwing, there really isn't much to do in that town especially in the cold, dark days of February (but check Novo's on-line Russian language entertainment guide for more options: [url]http://www.novosibout.ru/[/url] ). I'm planning on moving to Moscow for business in a few months and splitting my time between there and Florida so I'd enjoy meeting you, Roger Mellie, CA_Traveler, Big Bro AJ, One O Nine, Sexplorer, Bez Bezarra, Lucasek, Ludovico, Shostakovich, Stravinsky (maybe I should change my handle to Borodin or Schaliapin?), NYC Expat, Bigth Dikth, Crusier D, GandJim, and the other Russia/Ukraine/EE board contributors sometime. The reports you guys collectively submit about this corner of the mongering world are some of the very best on WSG for their humor, practical hobbyist content, and thoughtful philosophical insights into the fascinating interaction between men and women. Hopefully, someday, I'll be able to "pay back" you fellow WSGer's with my own quality reportage and perhaps (by running/screwing/reporting double time) catch up to you mongering giants striding across the frontiers of Eastern Europe.
Live a Good Life, Without Regret and Die With a Smile (or a Dyev) on Your Face!
Cheers! Certainlee
Tourist (non-sexual) Photos
Photo 1: Novosibirsk Vokzal with Sun Setting behind the Ob River
Photo 2: Opera and Ballet Theatre in Lenin Square where people gather
Photo 3: Hotel Sibir and Ulitsa Lenina (Main Street)
My mistake neglecting to uplaod the photos:
Tourist (non-sexual) Photos
Photo 1: Novosibirsk Vokzal with Sun Setting Behind the Ob River
Photo 2: Opera and Ballet Theatre in Lenin Square Where People Gather
Photo 3: Hotel Sibir and Ulitsa Lenina (Siberia's Main Street)
Hi all,
I am in need of a bit of help and info.
I have been invited to Kazan at the end of this month, I think I have some where to stay but I wont know for defiant for a few days. Is it a good place to go, by the way I do not have a word of Russian.
Does anyone know if there is any action and the cost. And would I survive.
Thank all
[QUOTE=Mephil]
I need info in Kazan. would I survive.
[/QUOTE]
Well, no. You might just get fucked to death!
Certainlee,
Thanks for the excellent report! It's always good to have some first-hand info about life in the hinterlands. And photos, no less.
It's gratifying to hear that somewhere in Russia, a 300r tip still has the power to bring a Russki dyev to her knees. ;)
Interesting - Zhili Buili, the Russian equiv. of "Once upon a Time".
Yes, Gentlemen, even in the 21st Century, there are still places in the Former Soviet Union (FSU) where for a very little bit of money and some kindness you can still be a "White God" to a certain dyev demographic. Judging from his Ukraine Board posts, I think CA_Traveler is discovering that down in Odessa too.
Cheers! Certainlee
(first of all thanks to all the posts on novo which helped me a lot, particular thanks to certainlee and himself)
i am admittedly not as well-travelled as some of the members of the board and much of the lurking public, my excursions into the hinterland being limited to such porn meccas as kaliningrad, ekaterinburg, dnepropetrovsk and a few other cities or any of those nameless suburbs out beyond the last metro stations of moscow’s immense sprawl.
like many, i do entertain the notion that there is some el dorado out there, some lost city of golden pussy where the white man can show up, announce “here i am!” and scantily clad, leggy beauties will throw themselves at my feet and moan “pleez let me suck your cock meester, i so much love the yankee cock!”
although in principal el dorado can be found anywhere in ee, i am not entirely unconvinced that it may not just afterall exist somewhere out there beyond the confines of european russia and in fact may be tomsk.
unfortunately, i wasn’t going to tomsk.
fortunately i was going to novosibirsk though, and even though novosibirsk didn’t conjure up the kind of images of wild debauched sex that tomsk does, it certainly didn’t sound as depressing as kaliningrad either, and even there i had managed to get laid.
arranging a place to stay in novosibirsk wasn’t as easy as i had hoped. there was some trade fair going on at the time and the major hotels, all originally and descriptively named such as hotel sibir, hotel ob and hotel novosibirsk, were either full, very overpriced or too shabby to stay in. there was also the hotel security issue to be considered, so i actively sought an apartment. my search for an apartment inadvertently led me to siberian scarlett, a scarlett johannsen look-a-like i had met on the net. she pointed me towards a few other hotels which looked interesting, but were also fully booked due to the trade fair.
these hotels are:
“4 rooms” [url]http://four-rooms.ru/[/url]
-or-
“barrakuda”
aдрес: ул. Богдана Хмельницкого, 65/1. Найти на карте
"Учительская".
Телефон: (383) 271-55-48
-or-
[url]http://www.vitrinansk.ru/uslugi/jemchujina/[/url]
even though i couldn’t find a room through any of these links, the good part was that i had met scarlett johannssen, whom i had being meaning to chat up since i first saw lost in translation.
eventually though i tracked down an apartment agent or office which can be found at this website: [url]http://www.hotelsib.ru[/url] and booked one of their “deluxe” apartments, ending up on ul.lenina, one of the town’s main drags together with krasny prospekt and voksalnaya magistral.
ul.lenina runs from the train station straight to ploshad lenina, which is the center of the city. however the street also continues beyond the train station away from the center, and i was located on this part. although not ideally located, it still wasn’t a bad location.
the apartment was fine, a bit below moscow standard for serviced apartments and certainly way below kiev in which serviced apartments are really the only way to go, but also overpriced at $120 a night. oh well.
first night it was late and beyond having a drink with a work colleague, i did nothing. i had originally considered going out that night as i really almost cannot bear sleeping alone in ee or without having even at least made an effort to go out, i ended up “closing my eyes for just a second” and waking up the next day at 9am. i didn’t regret it though, as me sex-wrecked body (i had just gotten back from st.pete and moscow) needed to recharge.
tuesday went well as i had some work to do in town and at night i had hoped to meet scarlett johanssen. unfortunately we couldn’t meet, so i instead decided to hit the town blind and see what trouble i could stir up. i walked towards the center and past the train station where some old women in hats and smocks standing around the marshrutki buses were touting apartments. later i would learn that they also tout girls.
across from the train station is hotel novosibirsk. i went in to check it out, having seen a few cute girls hanging out in the lobby earlier that day while i was looking for an internet café or wlan net. no luck, at this hour no girls to be seen, but i know they were somewhere. the security wouldn’t let me go upsatirs to look and find another café, so i just checked out the first floor café and only spotted couple and two shabby looking chicks who were probably pros. there is also a sauna in the hotel and may be action there, but it was early, so i moved on.
walking up voksalnaya magistral roughly in the direction of the center i found, quite by chance, "alpen grotte", a club mentioned here in a previous report. its located at voksalnaya magistral 16, together with its sister strip club "mour a mour strip holl".
i went in to alpen grotte. it was shortly after midnight. entrance fee was 300 rubles. inside, the club was about half full and most of the patrons were guys, including a few scandis and many russians. most of the girls looked a bit skanky, but certainly not undoable. after a beer, the stage show started, which i must say was quite good. the dancing was fairly professional and the girls were attractive, including one asian looking girl with a pretty face and a nice slender body as well as a smaller girl with a fairly rough looking face and an overdone fake and bake tan but one of the most incredible bodies i had seen in a long time. small, she had nice firm c-cup tits, a perky small ass and, as i would learn during the sex show which features some bizarre [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] scene with the male strippers, a totally bare shaved pussy. in my mildly intoxicated and thoroughly sex-charged state i felt it was my isg duty to hit on her.
in between shows she came up to the bar in some sort of revealing outfit and i complimented her on her show in russian and she reacted well and we got into something vaguely resembling a conversation. i asked her name, but we will call her hot dancer. we chatted and laughed and at some point i decided to come to the point and ask hot dancer if she would “work for me”. she was a bit put off, even though i am sure she gets asked this all the time, and turned away, more or less ending our conversation.
damnit! skank had fucked up.
undaunted however, i sought to rescue the situation and asked her again why she wouldn’t work as a model for me, i liked to take pictures. this seemed to intrigue her and she again felt complimented… perhaps i had indeed convinced her that i wasn’t actually asking her outright to fuck me for money. soon she had to put on another stage show, which again really turned me on and in my optimistic mood i swear she even made eye contact with me, although perhaps she was staring at either of the guys to my right or left. still, there weren’t many guys in the club, as the scandis had drunken themselves into a stupor and had long since crawled up the stairs alone, and the russians were either with girls they had brought with them or other girls they met in the club.
hot dancer returned from the show and i again intercepted her at the bar, hoping to at least salvage something out of the evening. i asked her for her phone number and remarkably enough, she actually gave it to me, agreeing to meet me the next day for tea before her shift.
feeling good and knowing there was nothing left for me to salvage at the club at this late hour, about 3am, i disappeared into the night. in retrospect i should have checked out the strip club next door but i admit i had simply forgotten that it was there. blin!
thankfully novosibirsk was experiencing some sort of odd heat wave and it was only about –5 at night, allowing me to walk around without headgear. i walked the 10 minute walk to the train station and checked out the first floor café at hotel novo again, no action. so i went to the taxis up front and sat down in one, speaking to the driver.
nuzhna devushka…
the driver said he knew where and we drove off into the night on a memorable ride through tuesday night futility. unfortunately my driver really didn’t seem to know what he was doing and first got on to the radio, calling base and essentially saying this:
“breaker 1-9, i have got a special situation here. i have an american (how’d he know that?!)
and he needs a girl.”
silence. suddenly the airways erupt in a blathering in incomprehensible chatter and finally a driver directs my driver to some spot across town. we drive there. nothing. we drive across the bridge. nothing at that “tochka” either. i tell the driver to take me home. i am not in a bad mood, just tired and must work the next day. so he drives me back to the train station and says suddenly, “oh, i know one more place!”
in his genius, he stops the car in front of the hotel where we started and yells at one of the old ladies still (at 4 am) touting apartments, saying “this guy needs a girl!” loud enough to wake up half the neighborhood. the lady points at a car parked about 50m from where we started our tour an hour ago. blin 2.
so i walk to the car and out tumble 4 girls. i tell the young pimp, i need a thin, young girl. he points at one and tells her to open her jacket. well she’s not my definition of thin, but has nice tits and looks young and friendly. how much? 850 rubles an hour. ok, 2 hours.
we drive to my flat, some 150m away and i pay the driver 300rubles for an hour of his time and head to the flat.
ira or whatever her name was friendly but speaks really quickly and it is difficult for me to converse in russian with her, attesting to both my faltering russian skills and her poor education.
she is a bit big for my taste, but is rock solid everywhere… really fantastic hard tits. she has a nice demeanor as well and i enjoy the romp with her, she accepted everything except anal, which i wasn’t really interested in anyway, i just thought i’d check and see how she reacted. after two hours she gets the call from her pimp and i send her on her way with a small tip.
i had asked her sarcastically if i was “pervy klient” and she said, no… “ftory”. i asked again, second client today, or second client ever. no, just second client ever. i wasn’t sure whether this should make me happy or sad. of the roughly $60 (1800 rubles) i gave her for 2 hours, i expect she didn’t actually get more than $15…. not a lot of money to fuck a stranger. btw, a beer at alpen grotte costs 80 rubles.
day 3 wednesday was spent working and that night i decided to go out again. i wasn’t interested in a pro, but headed down to ploshad lenina anyway to see if certainlee’s tip about pros hanging out there might pan out for me. on the way there, hot dancer smsed me and we met for a drink at tinkhoff’s, the brewery chain that can also be found in st.pete and moscow. i wish i could say i ended up banging hot dancer, but i didn’t. she confessed to having a boyfriend, which i suppose in that business is a must, but i enjoyed chatting with her anyway. she only spoke russian. apparently she’s been working there for a long time and likes the work, although i am sure she gets tired of it. i wonder what kind of future that job has… you cant do it forever and the kind of boyfriends these girls have are quick to replace their girlfriends with something younger when age starts to show. in any case, best of luck to her, she was sweet.
after parting ways as hot dancer went to work, i walked over to ploshad lenina and saw two cute girls approaching me. they were intercepted by two russian guys, either drunk or just rude who chatted up the girls and were rudely rejected, prompted the boys to yell something like “pashleee domoi!” to the girls as the girls, noticeably annoyed, crossed the street in the other direction. ploshad lenina was utterly empty.
so i walked back down the street to see what else was going on and came across rock city, a club one of the doormen at the hotel novosibirsk had recommended to me. i went in, paying the entrance fee of about 300 rubles. rock city is a four or five story building on krasny prospekt. here is the website: [url]http://www.rockcity.ru/[/url]
wednesday night was latin night and had live music. it was packed with students. i had a fun time, although every girl i chatted up was with either friends or a guy, so i struck out there. i did however thoroughly enjoy watching the dance floor from the bar. the bar is situated around the dance floor, which is in some sort of cage, so that while drinking at the bar you can look up to the girls dancing. it was standard 18-20 year old skinny dyevs dancing and quite enjoyable. considering i really had no time to do any dating nor did i believe a first night score would be possible under the circumstances i simply enjoyed the show and went home, hoping to get some sleep before my upcoming work day. had it been a pleasure trip, i certainly wouldn’t have given up the search so easily or would have made more of an effort with the girls at rock city.
day 4 was a solid “russian” work day, including 2 bottles of cognac for lunch split between 4 people, an early dinner with a few beers and vodka and finally at about 21pm, my long-awaited date with siberian scarlett.
i met siberian scarlett at the shamrock irish pub, which i chose purely due to its close proximity to my apartment. i hate irish pubs in ee because they are always overpriced and usually have crappy live music, just as they did on this night.
well certainly siberian scarlett didn’t look like her picture, but rather looked more like scarlett johanssen’s mother or maybe an aunt. she was big-titted all right and had a nice, but not great, face and had a fairly voloptuous body. for me the borderline between voluptuous and fat is a narrow one and she was pushing it… although by american or english standards she had a knockout bikini body.
i was exhaused and a bit drunk. scarlett was tired, but downed two martinis in about 10 minutes and within about 45 minutes of our meeting we were in my apartment “to look at pictures”. even as scarlett kept babbling about something i started to kiss her neck, touch her body softly and slowly undress her. she may have put up mild verbal resistance, but certainly no physical resitance and soon i was fucking her. it was by no means my best performance and we were both too tired to allow ourselves to succumb to wild abandon, but not a bad poke at all…. finishing with her standing next to the bed as i pumped her from behind, most notably enjoying her pendelous breasts swinging wildly beneath her. a classic meaningless poke. she left just after i came…
overall i must say i really loved novosibirsk, certainly more interesting than most other russian cities i’ve been too. the people were very friendly and with a free schedule, i am sure there is lots of freebie action to be had. i didn’t check out the p4p market as i wanted to… but i’ll be back.
OK, doc... YOU ARE THE GRAND PRIZE WINNER for the longest report ever! I don't know how you find the time to make such contributions, but you deserve a kudo for your efforts! :)
Planning a trans siberian trip (not sure if I'm starting in east or west yet) later this year. I want to take it slowly stopping along the way at the "best" places and I am looking for recommendations from fellow ISG travellers.
I just got back from a fairly uneventful 3 day tour of Kaliningrad. Although still essentially a dump, Kgrad has seen some improvements as Moscow money is now flowing into the city. Apparently one of Moscow Lushkov's cronies is now running the show in Kgrad.
Anyway, I stayed in Hotel Dona, which is nice but not particularly cheap at 90 €/night. This seems pretty standard for Kgrad though, as there aren't many hotels to choose from.
There are NO working girls at Hotel Dona, nor is their a security doorman to help you find one. I took girls back to my room, but they were the freebie type. No questions were asked by the girls working the desk.
I didnt find any p4p, but didnt look either. I know it is occassionally available at Planeta, a restaurant/casino/night club complex near the hotel. I was also told that there is some street action near the City Theatre in the center, but never checked it out personally.
Night clubs I can recommend:
Planeta: This club is good for in-week action, they are always open.
Matrix: Good on the weekends, young crowd, mostly techno-type music.
Vagonka: In my opinion the best club. Only open on weekends.
Restaurants that are good:
Zaria: nice and modern, international cuisine
12 Stulov (12 chairs): cosy and nice, international cuisine
Dolce Vita: located adjacent to the Hotel Dona, good food, nice atmosphere
Generally speaking Kaliningrad is dark and a bit dirty, roads are a disaster... but that's rural EE, take it or leave it. Went to the beach (Svetlagorsk), looked like it could be nice in the summer, but certainly not as nice as other beach areas, particularly Odessa in Ukraine.
Girls were nice looking and fairly easy... or at least interested in foreigners, but isnt that true of everywhere in EE?
I did have one almost ugly incident there to report. I was with my freebie gf, who is quite impressive to look at especially when she wears heels. She's 1,80 tall and with 10cm heals she towers over me with her combined length of 1,90. Mile-long skinny legs to die for. Anyway, I was at a quiet bar with her before heading back to the apartment when a really drunk and ape-like Russian came up to us. Apparently he didnt like me talking to such an impressive female. Even though the dance floor was virtually empty, he stared at me with his glassed-over eyes and then asked my girl to dance, which she politely refused. He then tried to sit down with us, which I manged to avoid. He wouldnt go away, even as his other friend tried to call him back to their table. I remained calm, as did my girl, as I realised that a fight with this guy and his friend would be a difficult and ugly endeavour. At one point he even tried to bend over and kiss her with me sitting there, but I was able to put an arm in between and somehow avoid an incident. He eventually stumbled away. After that my girl explained that this is so common in Russia and went on a tirade about how Russian men are horrible etc, and how once a car of 4 men stopped and tried to throw her in the trunk of their car. I really wonder what these girls have to go through sometimes. So yeah, she was happy to be with a foreigner who treated her decently.
Anyway, I still don't see any reason to head to Kaliningrad as a mongering tourist, there are better and more interesting places in my opinion. I admit I havent explored p4p options there and that club action (freebies) is quite good... but you dont have to go to Kgrad for that.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Well, no. You might just get fucked to death![/QUOTE]
On some sites like Cupidbay, there's many russian women from Kazan, Yoshkar-Ola and Cheboksary. Most of them absolute stunners. I'm very tempted to do my first trip to Russia in this area. There's a Austrian Airlines direct flight to Kazan, which is big plus.
From what i understand, there's lot of Oil and Gas foreign companies investing in Tatarstan, and I wonder if Kazan is an expensive place (hotels, apartments, cost of life, P4P, ect), and if regular girls are still approachable or already "spoiled" by foreign guys travelling on business.
Also what kind of visa is needed for a "round trip" in two or three Republics ?
Thanks guys for any tip and information.
Cheers
prosal... can't speak about the costs, but one visa will cover you whereever you go in the country over 11 time zones. BUT, a single entry visa does not allow you to leave the country and return even on the "same" trip and a double entry tourist visa must have all travel completed within 30 days.
CA thanks for your answer.
Cheers
I spent most of last year living in Chelyabinsk, not the worst place in the world by a long stretch but not exactly paradise.
Could'nt be bothered to check every post back there but the search threw up nothing so I shall do my little bit for anyone out there/going there, I know there are quite a few US/ other westerners out there.
Well, as you probably know from your Russian research, the nice easy way to get a girl is to go hire yourself a sauna (pronounce sow-na) and then ask the little old lady in charge for the girls (Dye-voo-shki) and watch the parade.
Definately a mixed bag in Chel. with prices a little higher than a home visit- expect to pay 800roubles plus.
Home visits are cheaper, you will need a modicum of Russian though, and a paper called Toom-ba, available from any roadside magazine stall. Turn to the back pages for a large selection of numbers, and if you can say "ya hachoo dye-voo-shka" and your address you're in business. Prices are usually 600-800 roubles for an hour, but to be honest most girls are none too attractive!
But the best for last.... (Well if you are going to pay that is)
Go to a nightclub called "Panta Rey", it is in the centre a short walk from Revoloution Square, everyone knows it, very popular. Inside, along with the usual dance club and restaurant, is a nice strip zone (well that's usual too), with some beautiful girls who get fully naked- quite rare for Chelyabinsk.
Well, the best part is they are all for sale!!! Just go back to the Cloakroom, where you have to pay your fee to go to the strip club anyway, and tell them you want to go upstairs to the "Inteem zone" and pay your fee. My Russian friend negotiated for us and we paid 1000 roubles or I think 1500, to be honest I think we could have got it for cheaper- there was certainly negotiating room, then up we went and got a parade of our strippers for our delectation.
A couple of absoloutely gorgeous blondes, but generally all very hot girls. Well, we had fun but only the basic half and half, although my other English friend with us swears his chick let him put his entire hand inside her pussy. Lucky bastard, she was extremely nice as well.
But hey, this is Russia, beautiful girls are 10 a penny, and in Chelyabinsk they aren't stuck up or used to foreigners so there is plenty of opportunity there, try the alternative club "Garage" for some very hot student chicks dancing on tables / chairs / the bar in their short skirts. God I love Russia.
Good Luck and keep mongering!!!!
Doctor Skank!
Thanks for the report on Kaliningrad. Im there tomorrow for two nights and I hope to find some freebie action. Planeta sounds fine. Im staying at hotel Mosow.
Kgrad has changed much in the last two years because of some heavy renovations done for the anniversary and when Mr putin visited the enclave. Who knows what influence the new govenor Mr Boos will have?
Still its the dump of Russia and the average montly income is only USD 78 per capita. In russia in general its about 90 (2003). So there should be good options for freebie girls in Kgrad. They have a difficult situation getting away and they most of the times cant afford to go to mother russia and are not allowed to go to neighbour EU countries without an expensive visa. The make living conditions even worse the electricity is twise the price as in other parts of russia because the wires go trough Lithuania.
Im in a group of business people so I hope I will get some freedom.
Cheers,
Felix
Hmmm. No response to my question on the Moscow thread, but I guess it belongs in this thread:
Are there any towns near Moscow (ie a few hours by train) to stay a night or two and have fun with the local gals? I've RTFF (great reading guys), but still no idea of the travel distances.
[QUOTE=Piper1]
Any towns near Moscow by train with gals?
I've RTFF but no idea.
[/QUOTE]
There's nothing BUT towns. Cities really. The other 'gold' ring,
that basically surrounds Moskva in every direction.
Ever heard of Tver, Smolensk, Kaluga, Tula, Ryazan, Vladimir,
Ivanovo, and Yaroslavl. Is 8 choices enough for you?
Unless you get on the Riga or Nizhny lines, ANY other train you
board will soon be stopping at one of these dyevochka
destinations.
And they call it 'gold' because it would be a little too obvious
to call it the 'pussy' ring.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]There's nothing BUT towns. Cities really. The other 'gold' ring,
that basically surrounds Moskva in every direction.
Ever heard of Tver, Smolensk, Kaluga, Tula, Ryazan, Vladimir,
Ivanovo, and Yaroslavl. Is 8 choices enough for you?
Unless you get on the Riga or Nizhny lines, ANY other train you
board will soon be stopping at one of these dyevochka
destinations.
And they call it 'gold' because it would be a little too obvious
to call it the 'pussy' ring.[/QUOTE]Hey Bez, I did RTFM, and it freaked me out - a million towns near Moscow. I don't think there's an uninhabited square mile within a thousand miles of Moscow. Thanks for the info on the golden ring, I'll check it out.
Great report,
What are the prices in the "Ring of Gold Cities"?
are there any strategies that work best in the "Ring of Gold"?
MAX
My company is sending me there this August and I've never even heard of this city but the trusty Wikipedia gives some basic info (its the capital of the Komi republic and full of reindeer and lumber). I know this is quite a stretch but has anyone visited there or heard of it? Is it as dreadful as it sounds?
Zizz
Max-
The two or three hundred kilometers distance that seperate these
cities from the capital means that you'll have a pretty good buffer
from the ridiculous cost of living prices, but when it comes to
mongering, the more you're willing to invest, the greater your
return/reward can be.
If you seek amateurs that will practically guarrantee a major GFE
all out debauching experience, you may only be limited by your
own willingness toward generosity. If you prefer cold business type
pros, you pay what the locals pay plus a foreigner surplus add on
fee, which could vary from $50 to $100 to even $200 for a model.
Sometimes there's no better strategy than to just go for it with as
much fearlessness as you can muster up from your two testicals.
Every opportunity you don't take the initiative on is a potential
success you just let slip away. A friendly foreigner with a fat wallet
might just the be kind of guy that some horny little dyev is hoping
will walk right up and say "Hello beautiful!"
On the other hand, don't be surprised to get a super icy "fuck-off-
you-pervert-scumbag" stare if you try that approach with the
wrong one! But you'll never know until you try!
LOL,
Great post. To the timid go the tame.
1) What kind of Language skills will I need if I am looking for the total GFE / traveling companion kind of experiance?
2) Do these places clear out in the summer when all the girls run off to the four corners of the earth?
3) if I am ultimatly headed to the Crimea (odessa.) would it make any sence to shop the ring for a traveling companion or just head straight to Odessa?
Thanks in advance for all the info.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Max-
The two or three hundred kilometers distance that seperate these
cities from the capital means that you'll have a pretty good buffer
from the ridiculous cost of living prices, but when it comes to
mongering, the more you're willing to invest, the greater your
return/reward can be.
If you seek amateurs that will practically guarrantee a major GFE
all out debauching experience, you may only be limited by your
own willingness toward generosity. If you prefer cold business type
pros, you pay what the locals pay plus a foreigner surplus add on
fee, which could vary from $50 to $100 to even $200 for a model.
Sometimes there's no better strategy than to just go for it with as
much fearlessness as you can muster up from your two testicals.
Every opportunity you don't take the initiative on is a potential
success you just let slip away. A friendly foreigner with a fat wallet
might just the be kind of guy that some horny little dyev is hoping
will walk right up and say "Hello beautiful!"
On the other hand, don't be surprised to get a super icy "fuck-off-
you-pervert-scumbag" stare if you try that approach with the
wrong one! But you'll never know until you try![/QUOTE]
Hi,
I will be in Vladimir (city NE of Moscow) for a few days early next week. Are there any brothels or saunas or salons around? If so, maybe you could point me to a website, newpaper, etc. I read and speak basic russian.
Thanks
Is Vladimir next to Dmitrov?
[QUOTE=Quosmo 23]Hi,
I will be in Vladimir (city NE of Moscow) for a few days early next week. Are there any brothels or saunas or salons around? If so, maybe you could point me to a website, newpaper, etc. I read and speak basic russian.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Bez,
Do you know of any brothels or agencies in vladimir that allow incall? or do I need to read the paper when I get there?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Dmitrov's a small populated area at the farthest north edge
of the Moscow urban sprawl, 50 klicks due north of the city,
on the Moscow Canal. Its accessible on a secondary road,
not a main highway, so if you're not pushing a barge on the
canal, one wonders what the hell you'd be there for.
Vladimir's a Golden Ring city due east of Moscow, about
200 klicks.
Neither one is next to each other or anything else.[/QUOTE]
Hello,
Can anybody recommend me places to have fun in Murmansk where the girls are going and where it is good shows. I want also phonenumber and adresses to nice woman in same city. Hope somone can helpe me, I will go to Murmansk in the end of June.
[QUOTE=JacobGlobo]Hello,
Any informtion about Vladvastok or cities arund this place?
Friendly middle class hotel?
Good places to go out to pick girls?
Thanks for any informtion.[/QUOTE]
While VVO is not as expensive as Moscow, it is one of the most expensive cities in Russia. I was told by a local girl that living expenses are higher in VVO than Spb.
If you're traveling on your own dime, better bring lots of cash.
Decent, international level (I didn't say Western style hotels as there isn't one except for a Canadian managed Motel in the outskirts) hotels are expensive. Best hotel is Hyundai (owned by Korean conglamorate Hyundai, 6000 py/day for the cheapest room, no internet. Second best is Versaille, but don't be fooled by the French name, it's a Soviet style hotel (worse than Holiday Inn). If my memory serves me correctly, it's 4500py a day with a twin sized bed, no internet in the room. Third best is Gavan (location inconvenient). Over 4000py for an incredibly shitty room. No internet throughout the hotel and the rooms are 10 times worse than a college dorm. Twin sized bed, of course. Past midnight hotel staff would ask you if you need a girl, then he'll call his mafia friend and bring in a vanload of girls for you to choose. At 1500 to 2500py price range, all 10 girls they brought are ugly as hell. At 3500py, a couple were decent looking. Each time they brought in 5 girls in a van. They parade in front of you with the supervision of the mafia. If you don't like what you see the mafia will come back 15 minutes later with another 5 girls. The process lasted 3 times until I finally picked one, actually more like not wanting to get killed by the mafia if I still didn't pick anybody after he made 3 trips to the hotel. He never looked or talked to me the wholetime. The negotiation was done with the male hotel staff. And a young female hotel staff just watched nonchalently. I guess she's seen her share of foreign perverts. I was a little embarrased.
City center is full of menace looking drunken men while militia is busy pulling people over for bribes. The beach is very dirty, better wear shoes. You don't wanna get cut by broken glass bottles on the beach. It's dangerous to hangout by oneself in the evening. It's very important if you're a foreigner.
I went to a dance club (the name escapes me but it's in Lonely Planet) with a girl. By the way about 5 vicious looking men wearing camaflouge outfit with Ak-47s as securities. Vladivostok is a crime ridden city. I guess it was still early before midnight. I was the ONLY male at the club with about 10-15 girls and 10 other female barmaids/waitresses. People started to come in as the night went on. Eventually there was about 10 guys versus 100 girls. As I was already with a girl, I was more interested in observing Russian male/female interaction in there. It was very different than it is in the US to say the least. In the US of A, a girl just has to sit there and she'll have an army of guys trying to talk to her and impress her all night long. You'd see a couple girls dancing and a boatload of guys forming layers and layers of circles, standing while holding a drink and ogling girls. They (well, sometime I'm one of them) look like they've never seen women in their lives.
The dynamics totally changes in Russia, or at least in this particular club. Russian men just sit on couchs, looking very bored, talking to their guy friends or girlfriends......And I was wide eyed, possibly with my mouth wide open and drooling all over my shirt checking out 100 stunning Russian girls dancing. I probably looked like a retard. I have learned to control my saliva since after making more trips to the motherland :-)
Oh, sorry for long winded rambling.
You wanted to know about middle level hotels. I think Hyundai and Versailles are considered top tier in VVO. And if you're from a developed country, you'd not feel safe and comfortable staying at other hotels (but they provide girls). But these 2 don't provide girls. You'd have to find one yourself. Btw, armed guards with Ak-47s at Hyundai as well.
Where to find girls?
Everywhere I guess. Like most people already mentioned on the board, try to smile and look confident and happy. You have nothing to lose by approaching them.
I think if you're on a biz trip or have friends that can show you around town and protect you than VVO would be ok. If you're a lone adventurer than you need to be brave and very careful. It's much safer in Moscow.
Dear Charlie,
I don't know when you were last in VVO, I was there last summer, and your report is not correct:
- Versaille, has internet in the rooms
- The hotel is GF, but the security requires 500 rub. to close their eyes
- I don't recall the exact prices, but when I checked last time Versaille and Hyandai was about the same, and my recomendation is Versaille,
- I don't think it unsafe to stay in some of the middle class hotels, like e.g.
Vladivostok
- There is a night life, but no real big p4p scene in VVO, at least I could not find during my now four visits to the town
- Best to ask a taxi driver to take you to a sauna. In the sauna they will line up some girls for you, price 1000 rub - 1500 rub (summer 2005)
I fully agree to your observation that the city is full of drunken rather agresive men in the weekends, especially around the beach area (close to hotel Versaille).
For sure there 1000 other and better plaes to monger than VVO! Personally I only go their for pure business, and do not expect anything. But I will admit that the town itself is an expereince. It is one hour fly (or so) from Seoul, and suddenly you find yourself in an European style town with white people....
HS
[QUOTE=Himself]Dear Charlie,
I don't know when you were last in VVO, I was there last summer, and your report is not correct:
- Versaille, has internet in the rooms
- The hotel is GF, but the security requires 500 rub. to close their eyes
- I don't recall the exact prices, but when I checked last time Versaille and Hyandai was about the same, and my recomendation is Versaille,
- I don't think it unsafe to stay in some of the middle class hotels, like e.g.
Vladivostok
- There is a night life, but no real big p4p scene in VVO, at least I could not find during my now four visits to the town
- Best to ask a taxi driver to take you to a sauna. In the sauna they will line up some girls for you, price 1000 rub - 1500 rub (summer 2005)
I fully agree to your observation that the city is full of drunken rather agresive men in the weekends, especially around the beach area (close to hotel Versaille).
For sure there 1000 other and better plaes to monger than VVO! Personally I only go their for pure business, and do not expect anything. But I will admit that the town itself is an expereince. It is one hour fly (or so) from Seoul, and suddenly you find yourself in an European style town with white people....
HS[/QUOTE]
Hi Himself, I was also in VVO last summer.
I stayed at a basic room(single) at Versaille, there was no internet at my room. I had to use it in the business center. Perhaps there is internet in suites or more expensive rooms.
The hotel does not provide girls, that's what I meant. I didn't mean you couldn't bring a girl back. As a matter of fact, I did, but she wasn't a pro and I wasn't charged by the security.
I didn't mean that the mid level hotels (Gavan and everything else below)are unsafe, what I meant to say is that if one is used to international standard hotels, he probably will not feel safe and comfortable in Soviet hotels. I paid 4500py for Versaille, 6000py for Hyundai(too pricey). But I still like Hyundai better, at least there aren't drunken men hanging outside and has more of international/Western feel. I guess I'm still new to Russia and not used to Russian hotels. Think of me as the perfect tourist.
I totally agree with you that VVO is where the East meets the Wests, it's interesting.
It's expensive and far to go to VVO, though, unless you live in Asia. Even that, it's still quite expensive. It's about $600 USD to fly from Seoul for an 2 hour flight. The direct distance is only 1 hr but they have to take a detour because they can't fly over North Korean air space.
hmm, may be I had an upscale room with internet and that is also why I recall the price to be the same as Hyndai. I don't like the Hyndai hotel (I stayed there when I was in VVO for the first time) because it is a bit warn and not in a central location, and may be also because I spend 9 months of my life in total in the Hyndai Hotel in Ulsan, Korea.
The Hyndai Hotel was warn and dirty, the Versailles slightly better, but no aircon and room hot like hell.
Actually the night security man offered me girls one day when I returned to Versailles after midnight.
However, I think our conclusion is the same: VVO is not a place for mongering, overpriced hotel compared to the quality you get, though interesting place because of the West-meet-East experience.
Did you find any p4p scene in VVO? (I have to go again in October, so would be nice to know)
HS
[QUOTE=Taloong]Hello,
Can anybody recommend me places to have fun in Murmansk where the girls are going and where it is good shows. I want also phonenumber and adresses to nice woman in same city. Hope somone can helpe me, I will go to Murmansk in the end of June.[/QUOTE]
You have to stay in the Polar Hotel. Plenty of action in the bar, and no need for telephone numbers.
HS
I'll be in Lipetsk and Cherepovets in 2 weeks. Any advise? Where are the best girls? What are the prices?
Thanks
Kosmos
[QUOTE=Kosmos]I'll be in Lipetsk and Cherepovets in 2 weeks. Any advise? Where are the best girls? What are the prices?
Thanks
Kosmos[/QUOTE]
I stopped by Cherepovets for only a couple hours by chance last winter. Based on my limited experience, it's not a fun city, not much going on. Lots of slush, it was dirty, lots of ugly Russian apartment complexes/concrete slabs. The air is absolutely horrible because of the heavy industry. Russians don't care about the environment. I was only there for a few hours and I didn't hobby. Sorry I can't help you much there. My biggest impression of cherepovets is air pollution. I literally couldn't breathe when we drove by the gigantic industry complex.
I did meet a couple of young girls, none of them speak more than 10 words of English. One of the college girls told me they are not required to take English in school.
Good luck and please report back.
I don't care about the air quality as long as the girls are good! I'll be there for a day, it won't affect my sex performance.
What are the prices in the province per night?
Kosmos
You are our poet!!! :)
But also totally right!!!
I will be heading for the first time soon to Volgograd on business. Anybody have any good experiences or recommendations here?
I will be in Krasnodar for 4 or 5 days in September. I cannot find any reports here but somebody must know something about the place. As it is business my arrangements will be taken care of for hotel, etc. I want to know about the girls! Thanks guys.
[QUOTE=Russia Fan]I will be heading for the first time soon to Volgograd on business. Anybody have any good experiences or recommendations here?[/QUOTE]
Was there last week. Stay away from hotel "Volgograd" - fucking shithole. But the others are probably not better.
Check out "Kair" strip-club. All girls are 10's. $20 to watch all night, no tips necessary, but welcomed. Won't go to hotel with you, or they will be fired.
Hotels have 5-8 girls downstairs, 6-7 quality. Call escort services or go to sauna. Sauna girls are $30 an hour.
Kosmos
[QUOTE=Mr More]I will be in Krasnodar for 4 or 5 days in September. I cannot find any reports here but somebody must know something about the place. As it is business my arrangements will be taken care of for hotel, etc. I want to know about the girls! Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]
Dear Mr. More,
I will be happy to help you with some info with regards to Krasnodar, as I passed through there 4-5 times going to Novorossiysk. (Flight to/from Vienna is in the middle of the night, and I had to stay one day when coming and one day when going).
Stay in the Intourist hotel. All services you need are readily available in the bar on the 4th floor. Normally 8-15 girls or so, ranging from 5-7, a bit pricy as they will initially be asking for 100USD per hour, around midnight you will be able to get them down to 150USD for the night (until 7).
If you go out of the hotel and go to the left, then you will meet an area of street walkers after 100-200 meters down the road. Never tried them, and I doubt that it will be possible to bring them into the hotel, as it looks like the hotel security guys strictly control the girls in the hotel.
The Hotel itself is shit, but ask for a de lux room, and you will get a sort of suite, but still a bit worn, but who cares, you will have fun in the bar….
How long will you be staying?
HS
[QUOTE=Prosal]From what i understand, there's lot of Oil and Gas foreign companies investing in Tatarstan, and I wonder if Kazan is an expensive place (hotels, apartments, cost of life, P4P, ect), and if regular girls are still approachable or already "spoiled" by foreign guys travelling on business.
Cheers[/QUOTE]I know this post is late, but I didn't see this post at the time and since no one answered:
The prices on the street are 600 rubles for an hour as of this summer. They do cars along the road with girls piled up inside waiting for people to drive up. Taxi drivers can take you, but some are more hesitant than others to find one for you. Downtown along the river with the promenade there are at least two all summer long.
The Hotel Safar has a strip club attached to it and you can have any of the girls in a private room for 1,500 to the club and then negotiate with her once your in the room. I negotiated full sex for 2,500. The hotel also has three hotel girls that can come to your room if you ask at the security desk. high quality beauty's, but spoiled by too many Americans. They want 3,000 and sometimes might give you a hassle about kissing, or GF experience.
I found a red head girl at their version of baskin robbins working, a university student who spoke English, I took her on a date, and gave her a gift and she spent the whole week in my hotel room. Most Kazan girls are very sweet, the street girls especially, but the three and four star hotel pros are too spoiled from oil money in my humble opinion. Hope this helps someone.
Anyone know if there is any action te be found in gelendzhik on the black sea coast?
Further, what is a reasonable hotel there to stay?
Any help will be appreciated.
TIA
[QUOTE=Clinic]Anyone know if there is any action te be found in gelendzhik on the black sea coast?
Further, what is a reasonable hotel there to stay?
Any help will be appreciated.
TIA[/QUOTE]
Sosnovaya Roscha Hotel is pretty much your only option unless you use a pretty sleazy place that is basically someone's house with five rooms. There isn't much of a scene here because it is such a small town, but I did get a hotel front desk girl that worked there a couple of years ago for 600 rubles for the night, BBBJ and GFE, cute little blonde, but not a supermodel either. You would be better off going to Krasnodar. Pat
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]There's nothing BUT towns. Cities really. The other 'gold' ring,
that basically surrounds Moskva in every direction.
Ever heard of Tver, Smolensk, Kaluga, Tula, Ryazan, Vladimir,
Ivanovo, and Yaroslavl. Is 8 choices enough for you?
Unless you get on the Riga or Nizhny lines, ANY other train you
board will soon be stopping at one of these dyevochka
destinations.
And they call it 'gold' because it would be a little too obvious
to call it the 'pussy' ring.[/QUOTE]
Bez, did you mean Nizhny Novgorod isn't a great place to monger? Why is that? Curious mind wants to know.
[quote=piper1]
are there towns near moscow
a few hours by train to have
fun with the local gals?
i've no ideas.
[/quote]
sorry charlie, not too sure i get how a post i write
in april to answer piper's question should be leaving
you curious for 4 months. ?
and since your questions have no relevance to the
information i contributed, i'll try to break it down
for you simple enough so that even......well, hey
i don't know, maybe your map reading skills ain't
so hot?
piper asked about trains travelling a few hours, the 8 short
lines from the different stations around moscow will carry
you to the 8 destinations i mentioned.
that's why i explained that if he got on any train other than
the 2 long lines, to riga and gorky, that he would be arriving
soon.
get it now? actually, i made you a nice diagram so you
will have no problem. its not to scale, so when i say a
"few" hours, that varies a bit, but the long lines are
definitely not a short trip.
i think we could call it, the wheel of pizda!
as for your interest in goj, its only popu. about a million,
compared to 8 million in moscow. 4 million females sounds
like better odds to me, plus the hottest ones in the whole country
draw to the capital. and numbers like that force competition.
a contact i had before in niznov said the hotels are pricey and
not very good, street walker scene is for truck drivers so hiv
problems, more industrial than academic, so smaller universities,
and going now in summer they'll likely be taking holidays in
the countryside. quality of rental flats is poor, water and electric
power interruptions are common. groups of extremely drunk
soldiers and navy seamen enjoy hanging around the big square
and the cafes singing pleasant ditties about their sweethearts,
nice friendly tunes about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] sukas and kicking in their
teeth and such. :)
only 15 years ago, the city was closed, forbidden to outsiders.
their travel agency confirms visa registration requires you to
submit a fresh blood sample with your passport to the regional
government aids project center within 48 hours of arrival.
i hear they brew a tasty cappucino though.
Bez, thanks, love the diagram! I see you have pretty good artistic talents :-)
I've been to Moscow a couple times already so I'm now trying to extend my adventures into the province. Since I have no business in Russia and unfortunately no one is paying for my trips, after the obligatory visits to the Red Square, Kemlins and touristy things in Moscow I figured it's time to move on and go somewhere else and save some $$$$. All my prior trips have been entirely on my own. No company expense accounts, no local business contacts whatsoever before I went..... I'm under the impression that I'm one of the very few people on this board whos trips to Russia are solely for fun.
I'm still a newbie in Russia, don't speak the language and still clueless about many things. Other than the incredibly useful info I get on this board, and for that I'm very grateful, my guides and local contacts are almost entirely in my wrinkled 5th edition of Lonely Planet.
So forgive my ignorance, I'm still learing the ropes. And thanks for the diagram and post. They might not be useful to the seasoned pros, but to a newbie like me, they're the path to the promised land.
Dude, if you're extending your adventures,
why aren't you checking out to Sankt Pitrsberg?
At least there's plenty of tourist things to do,
and with popu. almost 5 million, there's more
pussy than any Russian city except Moskva.
And half the toursits heading there are also
Russians and citizens of FSU countries. Lots
of Ukrainian college chicks go there for summer
vacation because the weather's fine right now.
All those other industrial cities to the east give
you absolutley nothing else to do, so if you
don't have business or friends/family there
to visit, they're quite boring. If you spoke better
ruski, then you'd at least be able to enjoy some
local culture, but as a western tourist, they
won't offer you anything, and you'll actually find
the locals somewhat annoyed that you don't
speak their language. They're much more used
to having russian speaking visitors there on
business than english speaking. Of course, if
your money's doing the talking, they'll listen,
just don't be surprised when the greedy fuckers
try to grab ALL OF IT!
Get it?
Does somebody has some information or advice about Irkutsk?
After some Vlad information. A friend of mine had a wonderful "stay" at the Hotel Izoomrood (Hope I got that correct). He was able to go not a great distance away to a "Sportsman's Club" (apparently linked) where he met up with an employee (blonde ... late 30's) from the Hotel (worked in both places) and fucked her brains out. He does remember that the steel security gates out the front had what appeared to be palm trees. Any info on either place (or others?) as I intend a visit to Vlad in the near future?
As there does not appear to be much out there on my info seeking request several days ago I have decided I now need more general advice as well.
From my study of the Forum, my understanding of "Sportsmans Club" in my previous note should probably be "Recreation Club" ... what does a typical Club have?
I notice reference to "sauna girls" ... Is there a Russian word to describe these girls? Do these clubs typically have saunas? Does it mean "banya"? What could you normally expect from sauna girls? Topless? Sex?
My friend was there in early 2003 at Hotel Izoomrood and then on to the Rec Club where he "connected" with his buxom blonde. He was most impressed with her and spoke excitedly about her eagerness ... she loved it every which way ... including condomless on the second visit .. I do not have a current contact on him as he is in China ... but I'll bet he slips across the border visiting the Rec Club with the wrought iron security gates and palm trees??
Any info would be greatly appreciated on Vlad.
Ivancha,
Your dreams about Vladivostok are far out as the city is. This is not Bangkok, Moscow or Germany with FKKs with clubs and saunas.
If you have read the forum, you would then have seen some exchanges between CharlieH and me, and I can only repeat the same advise. The city is not a well developed mongering place, in fact compared to Russia in general it is not a mongering place at all.
If you speak a little Russian, have some expereince on how to impress slavic ladies, then you have a small chance to pick-up some free-bee gem in a bar (don't ask me where the bars are, just look then you arrive) and after dating her for some time and treating her right she will open her lips (the ones between her legs) for you, if this fails then as in most hotel in Russia girls are availible in the lobby or through the bell boy.
Have a good trip, but do not go there for mongering
HS
Just returned today with a smile on my lips after a five days trip to Novorossiysk.
I would rate Novorossiysk as a good mongering destination for a short stay.
Following to report:
Stayed in the hotel Novorossiysk in a two room de-lux room. Nice renovated room, well above normal Russian province standards. Internet (WIFI), clean, new bathroom, a/c, about 90USD per night (arranged through my company's local agent, might be that they will charge a foreinger coming in from the street different.
The hotel has a combined restuarant/bistro/bar on the third floor (or so). Nice ladies are around there from about 8 PM. In addition you will find girls in the hotel lobby. The offer will be 100USD/hour, but they all settled for 100USD/2 hours or a full nite for 300USD. Girls are 5-8 I will say. I had the pleasure of using the services of 3 of the ladies, one did anal but covered BJ, one no anal but BBJ, and one no anal and only covered BJ. In general service was ok and proffesional - if you understand.
Around the corner, but still in the hotel, you will find a Casino. The most important thing with this Casino is that they have a nice and newly 'remont' stripbar. Girls here did an excellent show and for small money additional services like lapdance for 500RUB and 'private room - two songs' for 1000RUB, again negociate the prices given on the menu card. I gave the girls (8 of them in total I guess) two bottles of Champagnske for the price of 1200 RUB/each and became the hero of the night. Actually the drink card stated 1500RUB/each bottle, but the 'administrator' told me that the mentioned champagnska on drink card was not on stock, and they have got the two bottles from the hotel's bar, but they were of a lower quality thus the lower price. First time I met an honest administrator in an Russian strip bar!
Very good atmosphere. Girls were 7-9, young (but legal), some exteemly slim. However, it was not able to get them out of the strip bar, or at least the ones who was in line with my taste was not availible for this kind of service, they explained that they were only dancers.
Had lined up five freebees through mail.ru. Reality showed that only 3 were actually interested in a rendevouz, and due to the time constrain I was only able to meet two of these. Both nice, and I was able to convince one of them to return with me to the hotel, the other one would not as she explained that she had two girl friends working at the reception at Hotel Novorossiysk. I am still baking on this girl who is amix of a slavic and chinese, and when returning next week I will stay in a five star hotel outside the city (Hotel Nadezena, the best hotel on the Russian Black Bea cost, and where I normally stay) and the nice have already sent me two texts asking for my the time for my re-apperence so I think that will I be able to catch up on this girl next time.
The city Novorossiysk is not that big and a bit depressing. The front line passed several times over the city during the II-world war and 200000 civilans were killed in the city. President Breziev (sorry for spelling) was the commador for the red army troops in the Novorossiysk region during the war, and when he became president he gave the city 5 cement factories, a big shipping company, and a big port.
Food is good, including fish, many Greek resturants (lots of etnic Greeks lives in this region of Russia). Incrediable cheap.
Believe it or not: The city has an Irish Pub.. Went there with my free bees, and I saw a lot of lonely talent (non-pros) there, but had no time to follow that thread. Will do next time.
Sorry, no photos as I had forgotton to bring my camera. Next time...
HS
Kaliningrad updated;
Just back after three nights in Kgrad and I would like to give you some information! Sunday night is not the best night out but I found my way to disco Olstyn. 100 rubles for gents. Not much action but young and nice looking girls. However most were in groups or their boyfriends were around sitting a floor up. The blonde sweet and slutty looking waitress gave me some looks. Some other girls were really not approachable but I did attract some attention because I look foreign. Anyway, not a good playground so Im off to Planeta. I went downstairs to the free entrance restaurant with dance floor. The atmosphere is down to earth and I feel normal people go here. Usually no problems at all getting attention from girls but my limited russian skills makes it often difficult for me. Usually not the youngest and hottest looking girls but of course there are often enough bunnies. Sometimes real stunners as well. Talked to two girls in the stairs because I tried to hit on the sweetest one when her friend became totally hooked on me. So I had to go for the easy prey. Some talking at the tables and lots of nice dancing. Funny, it was two girls working as police officers and they were in their late 20’s. One 7 and the other 7,5. Got some nice kissing with the 7 but she had to go home because of work the day after. She gave me the phone number because I didnt ask for it. Back again to se whats left for the hunter to kill. One fantastic girl was still there but in company. Young, tall, slim and blonde and with a D rack! Just what I like;) She was also approachable and available for some dancing. Russian was still problematic. She tried to tell me she was married and suddenly I get a tap on the should by a huge gorilla looking russian man who spoke a few works in English. Its her brother telling me not to talk with his married sister. Doesnt these guys have any mannors? Well, well… better go home and sleep.
Wouldnt give it up that fast since my dick wanted some company. The taxi driver asked If I wanted girls and I said I can look. After 5 mins we meet another car where 2 girls are in the back seat. Initially the price were 1500 rubles/hour but I told I pay USD 50 and they agreed. However girls were early 20's and 7's in beauty and not smiling! The kind of hookers I dont want! No-no, I need to sleep!
Monday night I had to go hunting again since my body tells me to! This time I go straight to Planeta and there are some girls around. I like russian girls because they like to party and to drink alcohol which means they will become more easy. Two girls were dancing and having fun. One of them, a tall slim blondinka with ok face, a 7,5. She was VERY approachable. Several russian men tried to hit on her since they saw she was in the mood for party! Excellent, an easy prey! And she got hooked on me quite easily. After closer examination and a basic talk in my weak russian I downgrade her to 7. Actually If you looked at just her body and how she moved on the dance floor she is a possible 8. She was around 30 and single mother I found out. Still quite ok for being in this age. When she was 20 she must have been a stunner! Buys her a Tequila and she is very happy (luckily her friend doesnt drink alcohol – which makes it cheaper for me). And I drink the brudershaft with the blondinka and kisses her cheeks and after this the mouth, ending in a nice DFK. (it's a good tip to drink like this to start some kissing). At some point you have to break the ice!
After this they wanted to go upstairs to the disco. I have actually not discovered this place before. Had to pay for their entrance (150 rubles) but since I come this far and got a good feeling it was worth taking the risk spending some money on her. Upper floor disco is a stylish night club with very few people. Some really nice looking girls here and there who gave me hungry eyes. Typically this happens when I already have my girl! Really nice dirty dancing and DFK with the blondinka. After one more tequila I tell her; Zavtra rabota, go hotel! And I manage to partly talk her into comming to my hotel for some champanski. Outside we grab a taxi and her friend ask me if I can buy some roses for the blondinka. Sure if I can get her panties of. After I had given her 5 roses for 500 rubles (my goodness – what a price, like in west europe!!) I had a nice kissing and touching session with her in the back seat of the cab, while delivering the other girl to her place. Hand inside her panties in the back seat of the taxi! Yeah she came to my hotel! We sneaked in at hotell Moscow and I had problems with keeping her silent as she was a bit drunk. No need to wake up the sleeping security! Well, after some champanski I was fast to get her pants of and I got my dick inside her pussy within 5 minutes!;) Just what I needed! She gave great energy in the sex and GFE! When she did the cowgirl I spanked her ass and telling her davai davai and she worked really hard to give me a very good freebie experience!
Last night the hunter was really tired! I needed a good sleep! No hunting, though I had tasted the blood!
Cheers,
Felix
Hi Felix
Thanks for the excellent report. Kaliningrad seems full of freebies opportunities.
What about the cost of life (restaurants, drinks in the bars/discos, taxis, ect) in provincial Russia ?
Cheers
Thanks Prosal! Its only my second time in Russia but I start to like it! I know youre a frequent traveller and have also visited Moldova a few times with good sucsess. Friends of mine have met you in Chisinau and I know youre a good looking man who doesnt bull-shit around! To be a hunk ofcourse helps a lot. I have to hunt with my charm since Im an average man. Well, well:)
Its possible we have different opinions about what is a beautiful woman but its all in the eye of the beholder, right?
IMO its easier to contact girls in Kgrad than in Moldova. There seems to be much less foreign competition and here also seems to be less scammers. However its a small city and therefore doesnt offer the rich nightlife of larger cities. I think a larger town in the russian main land would be even better but thats just my guess. And some basic russian is really needed to get progress with the girls.
Costs are quite high especially if you want to eat in nicer restaurants and go to the trendy clubs. Expect to pay close to western prices for food and drinks in the upper scale options. Entrance is usually 3-5 euros and so are the beers (imported like heineken) and real cocktails are more expensive. Taxis try the usual overcharging but can often be bargained down a bit if you know some russian. Within the city centre its 100-200 rubels for a few km. If you want to visit a trendy cafe and restaurant for the richer russians you can go to one cinema in the centre just west of Hotel Moscow. Its a pricy place but with some eye candy. However a bit snobbish and with very slow service. A warsteiner beer was 200 Rubels which is about 6,5 Euros.
Cheers and have fun!
/Felix
Thanks Felix for your kind words.
I didn't expect the cost of life in provincial Russia close to western prices. Shit. Chisinau and Bucarest are definitely MUCH cheaper ..... yet the pleasure to hit an untouched scene with no competition has maybe a price.
Meet you one day in Samara, Ufa or Kazan ?
:)
[QUOTE=Prosal]
do I expect cost of provincial Russia close to western prices.
to hit an untouched scene with no competition has a price.
Samara, Ufa or Kazan ?
[/QUOTE]
The "scene" described by these 2 businessmen didn't sound
like you missed much. No offense gentlemen.
NOBODY would EVER go to Novoross for any reason except
business, and $300 for all night for some average, (5-8 as
described by Him), is certainly not a "provinces" price. A
normal girl's work might not pay her $300 all year there!
And the best NorFlix could do was imagine what his 30 year old
mama would have looked like 10 years ago, as the strippers
refused money for sex!
Maybe if we saw an example of what they saw, we'd feel different.
For example....
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]The "scene" described by these 2 businessmen didn't sound
like you missed much. No offense gentlemen.
NOBODY would EVER go to Novoross for any reason except
business, and $300 for all night for some average, (5-8 as
described by Him), is certainly not a "provinces" price. A
normal girl's work might not pay her $300 all year there!
And the best NorFlix could do was imagine what his 30 year old
mama would have looked like 10 years ago, as the strippers
refused money for sex!
Maybe if we saw an example of what they saw, we'd feel different.
For example....[/QUOTE]
Bez;
I dont know what your after? Im a no bull shit person who try to describe what happen without any bragging make up! Whats real is real. If you want to see photos I have posted in Moldova and Romania sections. And you can imagine yourself!
With limited options you sometimes have to go for easy prey instead of hunting the rainbow. And there were no strippers around! She was acceptable for being this age and Im quite picky when chosing girls. Ofcourse I would have gone after a younger and fresher if the time and the availability would have allowed me too. But for energy during sex Im sure not even you would have complained. Maybe this is what you need to be a bit more positive? ;)
Im not recommending Kgrad because Im sure larger russian cities are better but I do have the politeness to answer questions. Learn from this please!
Why dont you try to contribute with some facts instead of sounding like if you havnt got any good action for a while? If you dont have anything more constructive to say I suggest you shut up! The spirit of this forum in not insult people who give reports and tries to help others.
Cheers,
Felix
Prosal; Yes Chisinau is definetely much cheaper and Romania as well, especially in rural areas. It all depends if you want to live like a king or to be smart when spending the dough, but with less comfort and quality of life!
Wouldnt mind to go hunting with you one day! Im up for some travelling early next year. In the meanwhile I will visit Kgrad again a couple of times and will explore the scene more! And practice some russian....
Prosal, Im sure you would do well in Moscow!
Happy hunting:)
/Felix
[QUOTE=Felix Nordic]
Bez what you after?
I no bs no brag!
you need to be positive
I have politeness!
contribute facts or shut up!
The spirit is not insult people.
Cheeselix
[/QUOTE]
Bez iz afterbirth!
I recall something about "several russian men tried
to hit on her and she got hooked on me quite easily,"
but you don't brag. ;)
Telling me 'be positive,' (?) are you monger
or somebody mother.
Facts.
Well, Jackson says pix say A LOT.
But in a spirit of you insulting me, I'll shut up now and
not say Katya's mobile number for the board members.
You guys thank Cheeselix Nerddick for that.
Katya.
[QUOTE=Felix Nordic]Chisinau is definetely much cheaper and Romania as well
Im sure you would do well in Moscow![/QUOTE]
Well reading the recent posts in the Moscow's thread, I'm beginning to realize that my daily budget is maybe not even enough for money-pocket in Russia.
In Bucarest or Chisinau, my expenses, which include the apartment's rent, light meals or fine restaurants with GFs, parties till late five to six times a week in voguish discos and cocktail bars, taxis, weekly buying of plenty of booze to stock the fridge, ect, never exceed 120 - 150 €/day.
I was planning this kind of budget for provincial Russia ..... it seems that I was wrong !!!!
Cheers
I am just new to this chat, but I like talking to does who are on line.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Well reading the recent posts in the Moscow's thread, I'm beginning to realize that my daily budget is maybe not even enough for money-pocket in Russia.
In Bucarest or Chisinau, my expenses, which include the apartment's rent, light meals or fine restaurants with GFs, parties till late five to six times a week in voguish discos and cocktail bars, taxis, weekly buying of plenty of booze to stock the fridge, ect, never exceed 120 - 150 €/day.
I was planning this kind of budget for provincial Russia ..... it seems that I was wrong !!!!
Cheers[/QUOTE]
In 'provincial Russia' you can get a lot of fun for 150-200 USD per day, but you need to understand the scene and the language (a little bit)
Ash:
I think you are definitely right to aim for large cities (regional capitals) as opposed to smaller cities in the provinces, preferably places that also have universities and institutes, which most do.
Of the cities you've listed, I've been to Kaliningrad and Novosibirsk. I like both cities, although as I often stated, I don't personally find it much better (if at all) than Moscow. Your experience may be different, as I am quite well-established in Moscow which makes getting freebies there fairly easy for me. As a tourist, your experience in Moscow might be different.
If you are going to the provinces to look for women I suggest:
* go at a time when university is in session
* plan in 10 days (2 weekends)... during the week it is sometimes difficult to get your dates to work. Obviously you will have some internet contacts before you go, but still I find it works best to have an initial weekend to meet girls at clubs, the week to woo and bed them and the following weekend to tie up loose ends with the stragglers or go out again solo looking for new prey. In my experience my "long weekend" tours were less successful than the mini-holiday type... simply a matter of having more time per girl.
* be careful... there are advantages to being a foreigner in the provinces were your "exoticness" is attractive to some females... it also makes you stick out like a sore thumb and you will make some of the local boys jealous if you are hitting on "their" women. Nothing to be paranoid about, but do be cautious.
Nearly all of my minor incidents with jealous locals happened outside of Moscow. Nothing truly bad occured (knock on wood), but had the shit hit the fan, it could have gotten ugly quick.
Here's a link to a post which covers that subject a bit, from a trip to Kaliningrad, where I will be next week by the way... :) (also see Felix Nordic's recent posts on Kgrad)
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=444739&postcount=264[/url]
And here's a link to a post about Novosibirsk, from my first trip there, a brief but memorable 4 day tour about a year ago.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=434584&postcount=261[/url]
In any case, am certainly looking forward to hearing your reports should you decide to go to the provinces soon...
Prosal is right about every provinicial city having good clubs... they all do in my experience. Monday-Wednesday is obviously not as full as the weekends and not as many clubs are open, however there still is somewhere to go every day of the week. And the Monday-Wednesday crowd does usually include some pros.
Bez et al:
To a certain degree I'm looking at the provinces with rose tinted glasses. Pick a town that's too small, with all the young gals having been with their BF since the age of 14, and you're looking at some serious disappointment. They just don't have any concept that a foreign guy can offer something: they've got everything they want. As I've said before, it's a combination of urban ambitions (desire to eat in nice restaurants etc.) and lack of means to do it - that's really where we add value, rather than by being better dressed or more charming than the locals (although we are :))
Skank:
Although I've never been anywhere in the Russian provinces as yet, I think what you say about the large provincial towns makes sense. It's also fair to say that you should avoid these places in high summer - school's out and the dyevs have probably all travelled to Odessa to make men miserable ;)
I think Kiev and Moscow really are great places for chasing. The pro-foreigner, or at least open-minded mentality really does exist in destination cities where young girls have migrated from the provinces to start a new life and/or gain new opportunities. This *can* backfire in Kiev in high summer when a ridiculous number of middle aged men come over to find wives, but I understand Moscow suffers far less from this?
When you take into account the extra hassle, travelling time and expense of schlepping all the way to Siberia or the Russian Caucasus, you've really got to ask yourself what it is you're gaining over Moscow. In concrete terms I'd say that the restaurants, clubs and apartments will be cheaper but the women no better looking or easier.
I spent a single night (a Friday) in Sevastopol last August and it was ok - quite a few girls, some with their BFs. Got a number or two but didn't hang around long enough to make anything of it. Apparently, the place is teeming with student amateurs, but I didn't pick anything up on my radar. I think if you ask around at the Hotel Sevastopol someone can sort you out.
I certainly take on board what you say about jealousy aimed at foreign guys seducing the local hotties. And never mind the skinheads, the jealous guys can often be none other than the police! :) My girl in Kiev (normally the safest and nicest of places, comparitively speaking) was hauled off once late at night when she was with me. Four police officers just came up to us and accused her of being a prostitute! (and she wasn't, I promise :))
Sure, you don't look Russian, but I'll stick out like a particularly septic thumb, so I certainly intend to avoid places that have known racist/skinhead problems (like Voronezh - any others?). But I think that as long you don't behave like a typical Westerner and walk around the streets at night (no Russian of means would ever do this) you can limit your risk. I guess you've got to be fairly unlucky for something really bad to happen.
I've heard good things about Samara (and I like the name) so I'll try it. After Moscow, that is!!
BTW am in Kiev this weekend (20th-22nd). Who's around?
Ash:
In my experience mid-summer isn't the best time to visit Russia in terms of women, since many are on holiday or in the country, but obviously the weather is nicer so it does balance out to a certain extent. If you go in summer, there will still be women there obviously, but some of the university towns will have slow club action. Even in 24-7 party town Moscow the summer months are considered off-season in terms of club action.
I wouldn't characterize Kiev and Moscow as pro-foreigner per se, but they are open-minded and tolerant.
In the case of Moscow, the vast majority of foreigners are businessmen, which does at least give a generally positive impression of foreign men. An interesting fringe benefit is that Russian girls know that their "sisters" are beautiful and "ne protiv" when it comes to affairs, so nobody really expects you to be satisfied with having only one girlfriend. They just expect your full attention when you are with them and don't worry about what you are doing when you are alone. Out of sight out of mind.
Kiev is more beset by sex tourists, so although Kiev girls still will go with foreign men, they are more careful in the selection process. If they know (or think) that your only reason for being in Kiev is sex, they may eventually let you into their pants, but they aren't going to make it easy. It is much better if you have a legitimate reason to be there. At least that has been my experience. Obviously experiences will vary... a very good looking or charming guy might be able to get away with whatever he wants in Kiev, but generally speaking having a believable story about why you are there helps.. even if she still knows that all you want is her pussy. Obviously more naive or inexperienced girls are easier to impress and bed. I like such easily-impressed girls. Everybody should know their market.... :)
As for racial issues, northern Russia (St.Petersburg and the area) seem particularly bad in terms of skinheads, however if you read between the lines you'll discover that most incidents were avoidable. Obviously it is different if you are walking down the main drag in St.Pete or if you are walking home at night alone to your dark apartment complex somewhere in the styx.
I personally have a few provincial trips planned for the near future, but most of them 2-3 day business jaunts too short to do any real carousing... I'll have to resort to blitzkrieg methods and hope for the best... :)
The advantages and disadvantages of capital vs. provinces have been addressed in detail before... I think it is time to put theory into practice... :)
Absolutely! The proof's in the pudding :)
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]
In my experience mid-summer isn't the best time
to visit Russia, but there will still be women there.
[/QUOTE]
July adventures with Kira.
Nice. REALLY Nice.
Is she from Velikykrasnonovobashkotartaroctyabrgorskinsky ? ;)
Kira's from Karabudakhkentkarachayevocherkesiya.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Kira's from Karabudakhkentkarachayevocherkesiya.[/QUOTE]
I think she is from Heaven...
Anybody been to Omsk? I looked it up and it's not too far for kazakhstan and China, by Russian geographical standard. And it's extremely cold in the winter. As usual, most of my info comes from Lonely Planet and I think this book along with all other travel books seriously lack info on Siberia.
What are the ethnic makeup in there? It's very close to the Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan but I'm not attracted to Borat's people (no offense to Kazahk sisters), I'm more attracted to ethnic Russians(Russki) and interested in Russiki culture.
Any info on Omsk will be appreciated, I would also love to hear about winter warfare in Russia from the experinced mongers. If my schedule permits, I plan to go around X'mas and new year (not orthodox). A little about myself, I speak very little Russian (some basic phrases and about 100 words) but can read the alphabets without any problem. Don't know anybody yet but will try to set up a few contacts from dating sites before I go (personally I think they've all been bombarded by horny foreigners already, sigh, if only we could turn back time). I have no biz there and I'm probably younger than some of you seasoned mongers. Of course I'll bring the 6th edition of Lonely Planet. I've been to Russia a couple times but I always fly in directly from a foreign country into international cities like Moscow and Vladivostok. Omsk is very deep behind enemy line, and I'll be flying solo, supply line will be streched very far. I don't want to end up there hungry, tired and cold. Russian winter has always protected themselves well against foreign invaders (Napoleon, Hitler). I hope not to repeat the same fate as these guys.
I'll mostly be concentrating on freebies, pros are reserved as backups when all else fails. Are Omsk girls exposed to foreigners, spoiled? I realize Omsk is not Moscow but is Omsk flush with oil money now? When not chasing girls, anything else I can do there to kill time and explore the city? Is there outdoor activity in winter? People hanging out in parks, etc? Many foreigners there? Horny foreign mongers, migrant workers from Kazahkstan, China, etc?
And I'll also need a cover as to why the hell I'm in there. Real estate developer might work in Kiev or Moscow but I doubt it'll work in Siberia. From past experience, being seen as a sex tourist(i.e. not on a biz trip) is not gonna get us far with girls. Why am I in Siberia during holiday? This is a tough one to explain.
Asking stooopid question - why ARE you going there? OMSK? What's in OMSK?
[QUOTE=CharlieH]
Omsk?
Is Russia cold in the winter, seriously?
I very close to the Borat.
I dont speak Russian and don't know anybody
will set up a contact from dating site before I go
they've been made by horny foreigners already
I have no biz there and I dont want to end like dead cold Hitler.
If all Omsk girls exposed to foreigners,
what else I can do outdoor hanging out in parks?
Many foreign horny mongers from Kazahkstan?
And why the hell I'm a sex tourist in Siberia?
This is tough to explain.
[/QUOTE]
Chuckles!
Don't you dare allow any jealous detractors attempt
to dampen your unbridled enthusiasm and spirit of adventure.
You were literally born for Omsk!
IT IS YOUR DESTINY!
Dear fellow mongers,
Sorry for the delay in this long overdue report, but I have had pilling up over my shoulders.
My work has taken me many times to Novorossiysk during the past years and since the summer of 2006 I have been supervising a set-up of a new production there. This included employing a quieted a number of people as well as forming a joint venture with some locals.
During such a long process on of course creates close relation to people there including some high-ranking business persons. Of course we have been talking about how much young talent is present, and all of the people involved always told stories about their mistresses and student they were f***ing or brining along on business travel.
I was also told about a special event – fishing. One of the big shuts involved had a house in the mountains some hours drive from Krasnodar and he took his friends their for a fishing trip, which is the cover for having a nice weekend with some students from a technical college in some smaller city. Finally I was invited on such a fishing trip….
One Saturday morning in October I was picked up in hotel by the usual four wheel drive Lexus and we went around the city picked up two other gents and black Mercedes joined us and we went for a two hours drive to the a mountain house. Cars were loaded with fishing gear, apparently to cover for the wives…
My contacts there had told me about the house before and it’s beautiful, but when we arrived I was chocked: I guess a 500 m2 house with indoor pool, saunas and a number of bed rooms, big bar, fire places, fitness room and very exclusively decorated and with a beautiful location close to a lake.
We were in total 7 men going there and waiting for us in the house was a cook with nice food, a bar tender and some other servants and 15 (!) nice students lined up….
It was around 14:00 in the afternoon when we arrived and everything was very relaxed. Some of the girls had been in the house before, some were new (as me). After we had been installed in a room we sat down with the girls at at the living room having beers after that the boys, but the girls not went for the pool and sauna, after that more beers and a big table well supplied with all the usual Russian food and bbq as well as vodka and beer. Some of the girls were drinking but most only Sok (juice). We were sitting for hours, talking about live and everything and slowly the girls also started drinking alcohol. Then girls started to dance and slowly things got more hot. Girls now went to the pool and sauna (naked) and we moved around pool with our beers to enjoy the view.
Party went on the whole night, as my fellow partners discussed politics and business they in between disappeared for a some time to their rooms with one of the hotties. Most of them 8-9, some even 10, and no one over 21. Some of them English speaking. Some girls making a lesbian show now and then when the political discussions about Russia’s future and if Putin’s fight against corruption was good or bad for business became to boring for them. Viagra was available besides the dried calamari and smoked salmon from the bar.
During the evening I enjoyed 3 of the young talent all good service, and full service, but one was a GF, and this was also the only one who spoke decent English. Around 4 AM I then decided to retire with the beauty as you can see on the photo. I was a good choice, very passion and young and tight and unspoiled. She claimed that she was there only for the second time, a real GF experience and all fully available even offered bare anal. Felt a sleep with her in my arms around 6 AM and stood up again around noon, had a morning session with her for which another girl joined us.
What can I say: The mongering experience of my life. This can only happen I Russia…
Some factual information: Girls were paid as much as 100USD for their participation from Saturday noon to Sunday late afternoon, and they were very happy. Apparently girls participating in these parties were also invited to escort my friends on business trips now and then, and I was also explained that my high ranking friends were able to arrange that they passed their examinations without requiring to much school attendance of the girls.
There is a photo in the photo section of the blanket that covered me during this cold night in the mountains somewhere in Cuban in South Russia. Sorry for the quality (of the photo), but I only had my mobile phone. I have bi-weekly text exchanges with this jewel and for sure she will visit my hotel room in during my next visit to this for me mongering destination number one.
When we left the house again the drivers had already gone to some local fishermen to buy some fish so all could bring a fish home…..
Our cold world is full of stupid true stories. There is always room for good lies. In this sense your story was so great!!! We all got hard on, and Russian women were made in heaven in our minds. But thanks anyway!
[url]http://love.mail.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=77932915[/url]
P.S. Great camera in your mobile!
Ooops. Story sounded real enough, but the pic does seem to be plucked off the net... any explanation?
Himself got f**cked by Himself :D
I don't get it..what satisfaction you get by writing stories and making your fellow mongers hard for free from lies ;)
Drifter38..you man..how much time it took you to search for that pic...wow...thanks for the expose dude..
Himself is one of the best added-value contributor to the Russian threads, which is obviously NOT your case.
Please wait for his explanations before posting this kind of arbitrary statement.
im sorry dude for the outbrust...i really loved the report...but the pic did not match up..waiting for the good pics.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Himself is one of the best added-value contributor to the Russian threads, which is obviously NOT your case.
Please wait for his explanations before posting this kind of arbitrary statement.[/QUOTE]
Prosal, yes we are all waiting his explanations... why he is in delay? Maybe he is still fishing? ;)
One of the best added contributor, da ,da, but from now I am not "so" sure about his posts...
I think the silence is the best way to answer...
Drifter38 you are THE MAN!!!!
Great work and I can only imagine the face of Himself once he saw that one russian girl rob his foto!!! :) :) :)
Any hints on hoes in this part of Russia?
Black Bltjones
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]
Ever heard of Tver, Smolensk, Kaluga, Tula, Ryazan, Vladimir,
Ivanovo, and Yaroslavl. Is 8 choices enough for you?[/QUOTE]Okay, Ryazan it is, this May. Very little info online, so time to do some research.
Vincenzo.
Forget Karelia, Petrozavodsk is way too small a town for mongering.
You need to skip this oblast and head straight on through to Murman'sk.
Ok, so its inside the Arctic Circle and this is January, so it -60 degrees C
and there is about 45 minutes of sunlight every day, but you will have
a fantastic time.
All girls will do anal for free with you, its the eskimo blood in them,
as every one knows, they love French military facists like you.
Will be in these cities in early April. Any action there? What can you recommend?
Thanks
Kosmos
[QUOTE=Piper1]Okay, Ryazan it is, this May. Very little info online, so time to do some research.[/QUOTE]
I don't think its a college town, so you may be stuck with just shop and factory dyevs. Not so bad, but styudenkas make better sponsorettes.
Springtime will have the flowers blooming all around.
Just ring that pizda bell, and your mouth should start watering.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]I don't think its a college town, so you may be stuck with just shop and factory dyevs. Not so bad, but styudenkas make better sponsorettes.
Springtime will have the flowers blooming all around.
Just ring that pizda bell, and your mouth should start watering.[/QUOTE]Yep, I'm having second thoughts about staying in Ryazan. A quick google shows it's famous for being the centre for trade in stolen body parts (I need my liver!), and for kidnapping kids for sex slaves in cellars.
I was flirting with an absolute stunning masters student of English in Moscow (via myspace), who said the place is a grungy dirty hole full of bears. It's a three-hour train trip from Moscow, so I may just do my one-hour work gig in Bear-town, and stay in Moscow for the rest of the week.
She is in the town of chebaylisnk
[url]http://www.flirt.com.ua/anketa.phtml?oid=106671403[/url]
she tried to extort the 400 euro out of me by forcing me to send it over the web. I said no and now she said she will meet. then she said send money by webmoney or we won't meet. yah right. BEWARE!
by the way, jackson, i can't attach her photo because it says i previously attached it in this thread but i deleted the post in which i attached it to. please help to reset this. thanks.
I made a mistake about Petrozavodsk. I back-checked and it actually
does sound like there's action to be found there, and more than some other
cities for its size. There should be about six night spots to find local talent in
"Peter's Factory". Murmansk is just not that much bigger of a city, so
Voyeur you did have the right idea.
Getting there is another story. From St. Pitr, its a 9 hour bus ride,
or on the train, anywhere from 7 up to 15 hours.
Perhaps since you're a military guy, you could try to infiltrate some of the
closed cities on the Kola Peninsula. I'll bet any dyevs you find there would
be thrilled to hook up with a foreigner, since none are allowed. Maybe the
threat of a long jail sentence would spice things up for you, since
you're quite the adventurous monger, not washing after sex and all.
Piper, my first trip over was to meet a girl from Kerch, who also warned me
that walking on the street at night can lead to getting dragged into a moving
van, with the end result losing some of your organs to the transplant black
market, and waking up dead on the beach with a nasty scar.
[QUOTE=Himself]You have to stay in the Polar Hotel. Plenty of action in the bar, and no need for telephone numbers.
HS[/QUOTE]
Hey,
Its 5 years cince I was in Murmansk, I guess things are changed a lot.
Is there any Strip tease clubs? Can you take the girls to the room?
Is there any escorte service. Someone with any web adresse?
What do you pay the girls to go to your room?
All information is welcome. Thank you!
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra] ... Petrozavodsk ... I back-checked and it actually
does sound like there's action to be found there.[/QUOTE]I know there's action there. It's *the* major source of P4P girls from Russia, if you know what I mean.
[QUOTE=Piper1]
I know it's the major source of P4P girls from Russia,
if you know what I mean.
[/QUOTE]
I have no idea what you mean.
Please elaborate.
I went to some God-forsaken places in Karelia some time ago. The worst was Medvedogorsk. It's so primitive it doesn't even have a water purification plant. And the hotel was the pits, the worst that I have seen in Russia, including my five years there during the Soviet times. My room didn't have a toilet seat or hot water. The elevator didn't work, Food was okay, though, and vodka cheap.
The city hasn't changed a bit from Soviet times, except for 24-hour kiosks and stores being far better stocked, of course. I started to think how a young person is pretty much doomed to stay in Medvedogorsk, because he/she cannot expect to get into any good university. And moving is out of the question even for professionals, if they need a residency permit in their new city.
Anyway, Petrozavodsk may have some potential. It has a university that has historically had one of the best English departments in Russia (due to Finnish immigrants who went to Karelia from the U.S. or Canada in the 1930s; one-third of them were liquidated in Soviet times). It also has a good Finnish department (or faculty, as they call them).
When I was in Petrozavodsk, innocently looking for a bookstore that might be open on an autumn night, a pert Russian girl asked me, "Are you lost? May I help you?" She then told me where to find the bookstore.
She told me she was a student in the Finnish department, had spent the summer in Finland (her Finnish was impeccable, although she said her family came from Ukraine). I didn't ask, but I got the impression she would welcome the first opportunity to return to Finland or go to some other country. An intelligent girl. Looked like a typical Finn.
The point is that a foreign visitor might be welcomed by students in Petrozavodsk.
[QUOTE=Vittu]
The point is that a foreign visitor might be welcomed by students in Petrozavodsk.[/QUOTE]
I almost can see you Bez booking the first flight to go there....I envy you! ;)
[QUOTE=Lukasek]
I can see Bez booking the first flight to go!
[/QUOTE]
My name is Luka. I live on the second floor.
With Lou Cabrazzi. He sleeps with the pickled herrings.
So anyway, your vision is obstructed, it just ain't gonna happen.
Why?
1. 3rd Edition Lonely Planet c. 2003 states, "Surprisingly, it is
currenty NOT possible to fly to Petrozavodsk. Contact Karelskoye
Agency, for any updates on this. Or ask Vittu the Finn."
So I already told ya, its the poyest or the avtoboos.
2. PetroZ is only 280,000.
Unless a dyev's invited me to meet the parents, I only
monger in +1million population cities, cause I need 30 to
60 choices to nail down 3 or more solid 9's. There are always
dozens of plain jane's I end up weeding out to find the special
dyevs, and only half of them ever end up as pure GFE heavy duty
sex-a-thons.
3. I'm a just southern boy, russian southern that is. You won't find me
in any frigid Karelian latitudes. So not as many blondinkas, but still
enough 4 me.
4. I have a return engagement with last summer's 2 Virgins tour, so
I'm quite booked for the moment with this prior commitment.
5. I certainly ain't going to Helstinki, my Finnish dyevochka has a
huge nasty looking hairy mole on her wrist. Moly moly moly moooole!
And I DEFINITELY ain't flying no Yak-40's! If there's no direct flights
outa Frankfurt with Lufthansa, you won't see the Bez.
Here's Tanya, a camera-shy Voronezh lezbo skank-ho blondinka-donk.
(sorry about the grainy exposure)
Bez Bezarra -- It is true that I have always gone to Petrozavodsk either by train or by bus. But this is what one web site tells me about flights:
Airplane
Regular flights from Helsinki (Finland) to Petrozavodsk (Russia).
Helsinki [14:30] - Petrozavodsk [16:50/17.30] - Cherepovets [18.30/19:00] - Moscow [20.05]
Moscow [09:05] - Cherepovets [10.55/11.20] - Petrozavodsk [12:20/13.10] - Helsinki [13.30]
Flights take place three times a week on Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Airline: Severstal. Aircraft: Yak-40.
Details
Direct flights Moscow (Vnukovo) - Petrozavodsk and return: 2 times a week, each Monday and Wednesday.
I always kind of liked Yak-40. Walkup entrance ramp for passengers in the rear. Luggage storage immediately after you enter the plane.
Seems like a good plane for Third world conditions, except that it is now very old.
[QUOTE=Robert Palli]She is in the town of chebaylisnk
[url]http://www.flirt.com.ua/anketa.phtml?oid=106671403[/url]
she tried to extort the 400 euro out of me by forcing me to send it over the web. I said no and now she said she will meet. then she said send money by webmoney or we won't meet. yah right. BEWARE!
by the way, jackson, i can't attach her photo because it says i previously attached it in this thread but i deleted the post in which i attached it to. please help to reset this. thanks.[/QUOTE]
Sorry but there are lots of girls asking money or money for travel via Western Union or so... specially on flirt (any edition, the database is the same) simly do not even answer, cancel them at all... Just traps!
IT
[QUOTE=Vittu]
I went to God-forsaken places in Karelia some the worst
in Russia, including an elevator didn't work and kiosks,
of course.
Anyway, Petrozavodsk has potential due to the good Finns,
as they call them.
When I was innocent, a pert Russian girl told me Finland
is impeccable, hey I got the impression she is so intelligent
like a typical Finn.
The point is that.
[/QUOTE]
Well, isn't that special? The point is that I used to think Nokia phones
were the best, because Finns are so modest and humble folks. Oops.
Bez -- Have your fun. But do remember that Ben & Jerry's, the U.S. premium brand ice cream manufacturer, opened a plant in Petrozavodsk in the halcyon days of Gorbachev reforms. It never worked out. And it wasn't the Finns' fault.
Answering to Vince I just posted (PM) him some rules I think are the same everywhere...
Try a taxi driver, preferably kavkas, as Russians says, and ask openly for girls, if he has nothing just ask to be brought to a bar a club a restaurant, where you will find other taxis…
Usually they have from 5 to 20 visit cards with mobiles and openly advertising that 10% is for the taxi driver. Usually you will get in a outskirts flat block. After some minutes a number that can be from 3 to 10 girls will show up and you can choose.
There will be a “mamas an” taking the money at once, simply hourly tariff and making the total with the hours you ask. Usually all covered and only “klassik” and BJ. If you have other expectation like anal, BBBJ etc ask the lady. In this groups usually the girls are so so but you can also find teen stunners, really inexperienced. It can be so low as 200/300 RUR per hour. Meaning 100 € for a whole night.
If you do not like the girls ask the taxi to call another “service”. Tip him well and get his number, tell him tour name. The next day you can get out easy just by calling him to the hotel. If he is clever enough, he will just take you a couple of blocks, and the call two or three “services” so in twenty minutes or so you will have 10 or 15 girl to choose. Of course you can take two or three…
If you like a girl take the name, and ask her for the telephone name of mamacka, usually se will not give you her own, she do not want to get in trouble!
Hotel: usually with a 10 USD or 10 € note you will solve all the problems, perhaps 20 in bigger cities. In some case you will not have any problem at all. Is some they might be very strict. In that case just get back to the taxi, the girl will phone to mamacka and she will rent out a room in a flat for 100-300 RUR, depending on time.
Usually it’s a safe business even if you are alone. Mind that they do not want any trouble with the police! But of course when the girl or the girls are in your room or your apartment be “on the eye”…
I think it's all
IT
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Need to add my observations.
One big difference between provincial Russia and anywhere in Ukraine is dollars/euros and rubles.
Ukrainians mamachkas and dyevochkas are happy to accept dollars
in any amount, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100.
Taxi drivers, who usually expect hrivna for short trips, will take dollars, for commissions, day trips, and tips. There are money changers everywhere and nobody has to show dokumenti to them.
Russia provinces were the opposite. Everyone expects rubles,
there are only a few money changers, and you must give your
passport to change even $5. If you offer anyone dollars,
especially mamachkas or dyevs, for payments or for "extras",
they will not be happy and may even think you are trying to
trick them, and they can't even understand how to count
what dollars are worth in rubles. Not too bright, but you can
understand why a simple girl would feel uncomfortable handing
a $50 or even a $20 to a bank teller for rubles, she'd expect the
teller to look at her like, "Oh, so now you are with *****s?"
Finally, it should be as easy as IT says, the taxi will know
numbers to call and 3 girls will come out for you to choose. It did
seem that way 7 years ago. It does not seem that way to me
anymore. I have only found taxi drivers who know where a
few "pros" hang out on a street corner, and none of them were
teen stunners, in fact, there wasn't even one worth taking, and
they were ALL very greedy and unfriendly. And they thought I was
russian, they had no idea I was a foreigner. Once I asked them to be
a little nicer because I was a yankee, they were even less friendly! So
my only success was with freebies and regular students that I could sponsor.
See photo gallery for sponorettes of the month. :D[/QUOTE]
Yes Bez it's true
In 2003 in provincial Russia it was even nearly impossible to even change €!
By the way I must say that always I go around with roubles! An pay every body with roubles everywhere outside Moscow.
For the taxi I must say that I used the system last a year ago and it worked perfectly. Of course not every taxi driver is the same, have the same behavior... Te trick is to ask to go to a restaurant or a bar you alreadu know, and during the trip ask for girls, and see how many cards he has (this is valid for Russia), so you can decide... I even found naive stunners.
The only thing you really have to take care is, when you find a good taxi, keep his number!
By the way This things happens only in real provincial Russia, wich means at least at a days train trip from Moscow (eastwards).
In this areas, even in big cities (400-600.000 inhabitants) it might even be difficult to find a bankomat, usually you will find them in office complexes or in supermarkets.
I think It's my contribution...
Now I'm too going the way of sponsorship, funnier and you have nicer girls!
IT
[QUOTE=VinceVoyeur]Good comment, but I have some questions?
Taxis in Russia are mother fucker, what do you ask when you have a taxi at 9 o'clock: "zdrasvoutie, dyevochi or prostituki pojalouista"?
Few taxis usually speak english.
We speak a lot of love. Mail free site for meeting girls. Fakes are more and more and girls are difficult to meet they send phone numbers easily but generally it's not the good one.
And for all the monger brothers
What kind of cities do you think are cheap: Volgograd, Novgorod, Smolensk, Saratov, Kazan?
Novossibirsk, Ekaterinburg, Kalingrad, Rostov. Aren't cheap![/QUOTE]
Vince
They are not Moscow, but in some site you see easily the standard tariff 300$ or 8000 RUR per night...
When I'm speaking on provincial Russia i mean that, city with no tourism at all, few foreigner, usually only one decent hotel...
For instance you got only Oblast and Republic capitals... in Tatarstan insted of Kazan thre is Nab. Chelny, in the Urals cities like Miass... nothing to see at all, but a lot of willing teens. :)
IT
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Only time I could NOT change money was Sundays or after 16:00 when
they are ALL closed.
In Ukraine, they also close, but not so early. Also open Sundays.
So early evenings, when everyone is going home after work, no
problem, many are open doing business.
But not russian oblasts, its regular banking hours and that's it.
So you must complete your money changing in morning or early
afternoon Monday through Saturday, only. One time, I waited
30 minutes, and only one ahead of me in que. Fucking morons!
I agree with you on supermarkets/office complex, easiest to
find money changers.
I did pay sometimes mamachkas in dollars, but they prefer not.
I did not use your idea to see how many business cards taxi has.
I will try that next time, thanks. I did try that though in my very
first Ukraine trip in 2000. 3 hours later and several cars with 2 or
3 girls in the back, I finally chose 19 years german student, very
cold in bed, but I was introduced to a super mamachka who served
me for 2 more years of many many other styudenki. ;)[/QUOTE]
Yes I understand, but in a small city near Urals, my company had provided me with 200 € notes... a real disaster at that time.
Now it's easier you find two types of bankomat... national with no Cirris, Visa, Mastercard or whatever label, and international ones, they usually work... so I had no problems.
Getting introduced to the right taxi and mamacka is essential for getting quickly nice teens in bed!!! ;)
IT
By the way I pay always in RUR outside Moscow...
[QUOTE=VinceVoyeur]Do you have exemples of right taxies all over Russian (european part)?
Now I see the film Tochka. It's in Russian but I understand easily what do you explain me, and next time I will try do make this for real.[/QUOTE]
This taxis are everywhere in Russia outside the Moscow Bigger ring (not the motorway one, I mean the one wich is around 350 km of main roads.
Usually they do not take you to an exisiting tochka, but they make up some calls and make one on the spot, usually in winter... it's cold there you know!
Girls come down from flats and just wait to be chosen, can be everything from three to 25..
IT
[QUOTE=VinceVoyeur]I will be in Russia this summer (July or august)[/QUOTE]
Usually rainy and hot (sometimes) but if it rains one or two days be prepaired to 10°C... In the begeinning od September I have seen some snow falkes... near the Urals...
IT
Guys,
I will go to Kazan next month and very very much appreciate any information on the scene there: which places for pros, for semi-pros, the nightlife, strip-bars, tochkas etc. also what hotel is recommended, which ones are not girl friendly.
Would really appreciate any information and will return with a detailed report !
Best
Noname25
[QUOTE=NoName25]
so to Kazan next month and need info
[/QUOTE]
Yes, many do go away then, but many more don't, and when they do go, its not for long, so....
Cause there is a good beach scene there on the riverbank, but its too cold in March. :(
Still, Tatar dyevs have tasty taters and oriental bums, its a beautiful thing.:) Your work is cut out for you, you'll be busy, but you must bring back a full report and many fotos.
Thanks for good wishes, I promise to give good reports.
However, again: any info on Kazan?
[QUOTE=NoName25]
need info on Kazan
[/QUOTE]
57% Muslim Tatars
43% Russian ethnic
Maestro Kafe and Three Musketeers are two good places to see
and be seen. Maybe you'll meet some styudenkas from Lenin
State University?
oil money from the oblast flows through the capital,
kind of like Donbas area in UA.
blend in, don't stick out like a foreigner!
Hello all
I will be visiting Moscow in March and I will stay at the Marriott Grand. Can anybody tells me if there are Pro's at the bar in this hotel. Or does somebody have a recommendation for an escort? Thanks for your help and certainly I will post my experience here.
[QUOTE=It Travel]Answering to Vince I just posted (PM) him some rules I think are the same everywhere...
Try a taxi driver, preferably kavkas, as Russians says, and ask openly for girls, if he has nothing just ask to be brought to a bar a club a restaurant, where you will find other taxis…
Usually they have from 5 to 20 visit cards with mobiles and openly advertising that 10% is for the taxi driver. Usually you will get in a outskirts flat block. After some minutes a number that can be from 3 to 10 girls will show up and you can choose.
There will be a “mamas an” taking the money at once, simply hourly tariff and making the total with the hours you ask. Usually all covered and only “klassik” and BJ. If you have other expectation like anal, BBBJ etc ask the lady. In this groups usually the girls are so so but you can also find teen stunners, really inexperienced. It can be so low as 200/300 RUR per hour. Meaning 100 € for a whole night.
If you do not like the girls ask the taxi to call another “service”. Tip him well and get his number, tell him tour name. The next day you can get out easy just by calling him to the hotel. If he is clever enough, he will just take you a couple of blocks, and the call two or three “services” so in twenty minutes or so you will have 10 or 15 girl to choose. Of course you can take two or three…
If you like a girl take the name, and ask her for the telephone name of mamacka, usually se will not give you her own, she do not want to get in trouble!
Hotel: usually with a 10 USD or 10 € note you will solve all the problems, perhaps 20 in bigger cities. In some case you will not have any problem at all. Is some they might be very strict. In that case just get back to the taxi, the girl will phone to mamacka and she will rent out a room in a flat for 100-300 RUR, depending on time.
Usually it’s a safe business even if you are alone. Mind that they do not want any trouble with the police! But of course when the girl or the girls are in your room or your apartment be “on the eye”…
I think it's all
IT[/QUOTE]
Hi IT, if you ask a taxi driver for girls and you don't speak Russian, would he and the "mama" rip you off together and split the profits? I'm assuming the cab driver can speak a little English and will do theh negotiatiing for you with the mama in Russian. Is trust an issue there? And where are you gonna get a taxi in the province? There are only freelance taxis so how are you gonna ask them for girls? Do they even know where girls are?
I don't believe your typical taxi driver will have 5 to 20 cards advertising escort services in the provinces. They may more likely have one or two, but these are the same numbers advertised in the local newspapers that you can call yourself. Sure, if you go with the taxi driver, then you get to go choose the girl yourself, but he will get his comission. If you say before that you will pay no more than vosimsot, dyevitsot or tysicha ruble, which is now the going rate for an hour in most cities east of the Urals, your driver won't be able to jack you too much on the price. But as far as more than 1 or 2 dyevs emerging from some apartment blok, I doubt that any more will be available for you to choose. If you really think 10 or 15 are going to come out, you're wrong. The one or two are probably the same one or two that the mamachka would have brought to you in her own taxi if you just called them first.
There will also be taxi drivers that will just drive you around to where a few street workers are hanging about. The quality of these sluts is almost always lower than 6/10, and these are where the drug addicts are working. These are hard pros, so they will not give you anything but a rushed job, these are definitely not student types. Maybe you get lucky and find a younger new to the business one, but odds are not likely. Just my experience from 3 weeks of province mongering last summer.
Charles H,
In addition to Bez's veteran front-line experience (hope you wore a helmet and a flak jacket Bez) my experience says that don't expect anyone involved in the provincial p4p game to speak anything more than the most basic english, if they even speak that much. Taxi drivers, particularly from "kavkaz", don't speak English... but are world-class at understanding sign language if your russky yazik is ochen plokha.
Don't expect mamasan or any of the girls, student or otherwise, to speak English either. They might speak a little, but you'll have to torture it out of them. There is a reason these girls are still in the provinces and fucking strangers for money and it isn't because they were the top of their class at "institut". The girls with "skillz" beyond cock-sucking and taking a rod in any one of 3 holes have either gotten "decent" shit jobs in the hometown dump, married at 21 to some Vlad who'll divorce and abandon them by 26 or moved to Moscow in search of a golden future only to join the disillusioned masses in the daily nerve-wracking grind of real life in the bolshoy gorod.
This has it's advantage though. Their lack of English means you have to speak Russian to communicate.
Despite what Pimsleur thinks, I learned Russian from taxi drivers and *****s. That might explain the strange looks I get when ordering in Russian at the produkti shop... "I'd like some fucking milk please, and 200g of god-damned cheese. And about 20 condoms, foreign-made. Thank you blyad."
Also, don't worry about local people ripping you off. They smell paranoia like dogs smell fear. If you are confident and street-wise and don't act like Mr.Rich, they won't even think (twice) of trying to rip you off.
By the way, a taxist getting a commission isn't a ripoff. It's a commission for a service performed. If you can do it yourself, make the phone call by yourself. If you can't make the call, use a taxi driver. If you find one that you can communicate with and is effective in finding girls, get his mobile number and use him as your pimp with his mamachka connections until his sources "dry up". I've gotten some really great girls through taxi drivers. If in a strange town (and aren't all provincial cities strange?) they'll obviously know the ropes much better than you. Seems to me that young Kavkaz taxi drivers ALWAYS know where to find pussy.
In my experience average price was abut $20-30 hour for basic service... as much basic sex as you wanted, usually CBJ and varied levels of enthusiasm. Quality of girl quite ok (5-7).
I customarily take them back to my apartment for 2 hours, averaging about 1500-2000 rubles including tip etc.
Taxi driver usually gets between 300 and 500 rubles from me if he did his job well finding a girl and depending on time involved. Paying taxi fare is usually more a matter of time than distance involved. Taxi prices are rising all across Russia due to rising gasoline prices, so it may even be more now.
If you are feeling adventurous, try a strip club. Most girls in provincial strip clubs work as escorts on the side. You'll have to talk to mamasan or the director of the club to make arrangements. 2 years ago I was paying about $120 (3000 rubles) including tip for all night... usually 2am-9am. Quality (7-8) and service was very satisfactory.
I almost always find that in terms of pros, younger girls are better... or at least girls or woman who are new to the game. Girls in this trade, particularly in the provinces, "burn out" and lose enthusiasm rather quickly.
As Bez said, be careful of the girls working the streets. Although there is no guarantee that salon girls or even strippers don't occasionally turn tricks on the street, the street ones are the ones in the most danger of catching diseases etc. It's a real danger, so be careful and wear a helmet.
Dr Skank,
As for me, I learned Russian in the internet cafes:
"Bliad!....Syka!.....Pizdietz....Bliad bliad!"
I would agree with Dr Skank on all counts - I'd avoid any SW's, as they are the drug addicted, HIV infected types, and are usually butte ugly anyway.
In any offbeat EE city, the taxi drivers are the way to go - young, male drivers - they know the services available, because they frequent them themselves :).
They are also more likely to be honest about what is available - if you can communicate with them, you can tell them what you are looking for (looks, quality, timeframe, cost), and he should be of some assistance in finding it. By calling directly the numbers in the papers, they'll tell you whatever it takes to get you to come, "why, yes, the girls are all young and beautiful...".
Bez, Doc, thanks as always. Sleuth Street, love your posts in Ukraine section, keep them coming. Now I just have to find me a good cabbie :-)
Although I can't really speak Russian, I happen to know ALL the Russian words you guys mentioned :-)
I agree with everybody that the key is to learn Russian. Otherwise we'd be at the mercy of others.
Hello everyone!
I decided to write on this forum for the first time as I was very impressed by the deep knowledge of the Russian women psychology showed especially by DocSkank but by other members as well.
I have been working in a provincial Russian town (Briansk) as a French teacher since September of last year. I teach in the local state university. My relations with colleagues and students are difficult. I come from France. They look at me as if I came from another planet though I speak Russian at a basic level. They seem to be afraid of me. As far as I know I am the only westerner who is living in this town. There are a few Americans but they are all religious missionaries.
I feel completely lonely here after 6 months. I had a fling with a high school teacher but it was by luck and I was not very interested by her anyway. It is all the more frustrating as there are so many very beautiful girls everywhere in this city (especially in the university where I teach but I can’t do anything here of course). It was a big surprise for me as I know some Russians in France and they are much friendlier than the locals here.
I would like to do some approaches here but Briansk is a small town. Everyday I see by chance some students/colleagues. If I start to approach like this I am afraid that I will be very quickly notice. It would be much easier if I was here just for a few weeks I guess but I am living in this city.
It would be the same problem if I tried to seduce some of my beautiful students I suppose. At the beginning I thought that they (almost all girls) will naturally socialize with me as it was always like that in my previous teaching experiences abroad. But nothing happened. At the end of the lesson they leave the classroom without asking any questions. It is strange since French is their main subject and I am the only native in town. It would be in their interest to socialize with me, no? If I make propositions, especially after 6 months, I would look very desperate. I am the main culprit I know. I probably should have tried to socialize with them first during the first days but I thought mistakenly that it would be easier for them to approach me.
On the other hand I must fight this terrible loneliness (the only sms and calls that I receive on my mobile phone come from France!) and frustration, so I feel I have nothing to lose anymore. I can’t believe that I feel lonelier in Russia than in France with all those beautiful women around, especially after reading some of the amazing reports on this forum, but it is a crude fact. What would you advise me to do? I don’t like the bar/disco scene and I don’t have enough money for the pros so the only possibility for me would be to meet women during the day, but which lines could I use to start a conversation? Do you think it could be a real problem if some colleagues/students notice me approaching? As I wrote above, Briansk is like a big village so the probablity is high.
Your help would be very much appreciated!
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Despite what Pimsleur thinks, I learned Russian from taxi drivers and *****s.[/QUOTE]Doc,
I was actually going to buy their online course to brush up on a three languages when I move over there at year's end.
Have you personally taken it yourself as well and what do you think of it? I just figured it must be doing something right if the CIA is using it.
[QUOTE=Utchitel]
I work in Briansk as a teacher.
My relations with colleagues and students are difficult.
It would be a problem if I tried to seduce my student I suppose.
I feel lonelier in Russia than in France, especially after reading some of the amazing reports on this forum.
What to do?
I don’t have money so, could I start a conversation?
Do you think it could be a problem?
help!
[/QUOTE]
This is a strange story, if it is true.
You knew ahead of time that even in a city the size of Briansk, of 400,000, that your lack of russian speaking would severely limit how many new girlfriends you'd have.
Though after 6 fucking months, even if the only words you know are "Privyet suka!", by now you should've scored.
Somebody's always seducing somebody, its like the national pastime. Unless you're really interesting, why would anyone care less about your affairs?
We're not gonna feel sorry for you being lonely, since you're over there. If you we're in the US, well ok we could understand. But the provinces? You could get off your dumb ass and go bang some hot tail where you are, but we're shut out here with these stuck up greedy ice cubes.
Hey fuck man, YOU should feel sorry for US!
There's probably not many teachers anywhere in Russia that don't get approached to get a better grade, in exchange for "something". Maybe you're just the one exception, and you'll be better off hanging out with those American missionaries praying for the rapture.
Bez:
I think you were a bit hard on Ychitel. To the extent it was Vince, or an imposter, OK - but we really have no way of knowing for sure. What he wrote really isn't that unbelievable (perhaps for us hard core mongers, who are always on the lookout, but for an average guy, his experience fits the smalltown EE world).
Ychitel:
You certainly have more experience than me with the Russian educational system - my experience is limited to having studied Russian at a Russian University (for about 5 months). In my humble experience, the Russians have a very different relationship with teachers than we Westerners (or, at least, Americans, are use to) - I can't speak for France, but I suspect it is somewhat laid-back, anyway. Students are expected to be very respectful of teachers (even if the teachers are much younger than the student....trust me, I know!).
As such, it doesn't surprise me that your students don't approach you outside of class. It would be entirely up to you to make the first move. Just tell your girl of choice you want to talk to her after class - make it sound official. Then, after class, entice her with, "how would you like free one on one French lessons". Invite her to your place, for legitimate lessons, go from there. Worst case scenario, you are less lonely. You really are in an excellent position to do this - don't be afraid.
As for fear of repurcussions over a relationship with a student - if this is at the university level, I really wouldn't worry about it - we're not talking the US, where professors are fired for sleeping with students. Nobody will be shocked in the slightest to find out that you are having relations with a student. Now, if it comes out that you've banged half the class, that MAY become a problem...
Being a small town (400,000 population in EE is a SMALL town - equivalent to a Western town of around 100,000 - a whole other topic, but I swear it works out that way, on a social level), the girls will be more conservative - or, at least, they fear being percieved as a ****.
Bez, you are completely free to insult me though you don’t know who I am , it is your choice. But I can assure you that I don’t even know who is this Vincevoyeur.It was my first post on this forum. My big prolem is that I am a very average man for whom it is very difficult to approach random girls, in Russia or anywhere else. Not everyone can be a supreme pick up master like you seem to be. Anyway I am sorry that my post did provoke such a bad reaction from you.
Street Sleuth , I am very grateful for your kind and useful answer. You perfectly undrestood the situation. Indeed this town is very provincial and everyone know each other. I am really the only westerner here. As for the girls it is very difficult for me to find a way to meet them.I real try to apply your advices. Thanks again for your help!
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]If this is true, its stranger than fiction.
First, since you only speak a little russian, how did you ever think that your relations with ANYBODY in Russia would NOT be difficult? And Bryansk is not such a small village, there's over 400,000 there.
Next, in Russia, you could probably seduce your grandmother and it still wouldn't be a problem. It would be fucking disgusting, but it is the land of anything goes, after all.
Ok, Russia feels lonelier than home.... well you've been there 6 months and you can't make any friends...uh.....maybe you NEED to go home?
And as far as the "amazing reports" here, more than half are COMPLETE BULLSHIT!
Last time anyone checked, it doesn't COST money to talk to girls, so you actually could try, though since you really must be Vince Voyer, it will DEFINITELY be a problem.
On the smallest chance that you're some other clown, can't you at least do a little better job pretending to be a real teacher. Because it does not matter what country you're in, there are always SOME students that want better grades than they can earn, that are willing to be "friendly". If you couldn't even figure THAT out teaching in France, then....well, you just don't add up pal.
There's probably not many teachers anywhere in Russia that don't get approached to get a better grade, in exchange for "something". Maybe you're just the one exception, and you'll be better off hanging out with those American missionaries praying for the rapture.[/QUOTE]I can understand uchitel's point to a large extent.
I myself have lived in Russia for quite sometime, studied in a Russian institute of higher education.
Have to disagree with his point about approaching chicks, they can be easily approachble.
But what I would like to underline, is that Russia (especially the cities of 1 million or below) is a good hunting ground for only a short-term adventures.
Spend more than 6th months there, and your brain will rot with the fcked up mentality that Russians have, and their outlook of life... not even constant pussy can save your butt there, it's time to get out!
[QUOTE=Utchitel]
Bez, I assure you I don’t know how to approach girls anywhere.
Not everyone has balls or a spine.
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Institute of the Glorious Revolution for Lower Learning Programs
University of Bogoljuboff. Finance Department
Course work for Economics in Interperson Relations, #$D-ATY/69.
To understand, the sophmore class lack any real job skills or training to earn some salary. Its quite difficult to afford tuition plus books plus living expenses, (cigarettes and beer), with a measly $25 monthly state stipend. So of course they are interested to socialize after class for credit.
Having an extra generous sponsor comes in very handy for a few of the most special ba-donka-donk styu-denka dinks. They are interestingly intimate and curious about the configuartion of different positions to develop multiplication of orgasm sequences. Oh, and they gulp sperm jizz.
But alas poor Unich, once many long years ago when I too was poor......, no wait, I wasn't. But money won't always cure loneliness, that is, unless you're in a great country like the motherland.
I guess I'm trying to say, that if I started whining and complaining about feeling lonely, every time I got stood up or struck out with some bimbette, I'd be running home with my tail between my legs too. But you just gotta stay in the game, no matter what, and keep plugging away. Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke. Butch up, girls. Are you mongers, or mama's boys?
Poor teacher feels lonely, awwwwww!!! That's so sad. Get out the violins and play for this poor Frog, and somebody get him a tissue. Let's all hug now.
Seven styudenka sistras. My study project in sponsor-driven dating games with results can be found in the journal Popular Mechanical-Mongerations. It found that one out of every 2 and a quarter dyevochkas prefers to give uncovered blowjobs to their teachers who chew gum. It was a reverse blind sample group of doggie style beer drinking sluts that got drunk two weeks before final oral sex exams, that realized their grades would need a little boost and had the personal motivation to graduate with a mentoring tutor.
[QUOTE=Utchitel]Hello everyone!
I decided to write on this forum for the first time as I was very impressed by the deep knowledge of the Russian women psychology showed especially by DocSkank but by other members as well.
I have been working in a provincial Russian town (Briansk) as a French teacher since September of last year. I teach in the local state university. My relations with colleagues and students are difficult. I come from France. They look at me as if I came from another planet though I speak Russian at a basic level. They seem to be afraid of me. As far as I know I am the only westerner who is living in this town. There are a few Americans but they are all religious missionaries.
I feel completely lonely here after 6 months. I had a fling with a high school teacher but it was by luck and I was not very interested by her anyway. It is all the more frustrating as there are so many very beautiful girls everywhere in this city (especially in the university where I teach but I can’t do anything here of course). It was a big surprise for me as I know some Russians in France and they are much friendlier than the locals here.
I would like to do some approaches here but Briansk is a small town. Everyday I see by chance some students/colleagues. If I start to approach like this I am afraid that I will be very quickly notice. It would be much easier if I was here just for a few weeks I guess but I am living in this city.
It would be the same problem if I tried to seduce some of my beautiful students I suppose. At the beginning I thought that they (almost all girls) will naturally socialize with me as it was always like that in my previous teaching experiences abroad. But nothing happened. At the end of the lesson they leave the classroom without asking any questions. It is strange since French is their main subject and I am the only native in town. It would be in their interest to socialize with me, no? If I make propositions, especially after 6 months, I would look very desperate. I am the main culprit I know. I probably should have tried to socialize with them first during the first days but I thought mistakenly that it would be easier for them to approach me.
On the other hand I must fight this terrible loneliness (the only sms and calls that I receive on my mobile phone come from France!) and frustration, so I feel I have nothing to lose anymore. I can’t believe that I feel lonelier in Russia than in France with all those beautiful women around, especially after reading some of the amazing reports on this forum, but it is a crude fact. What would you advise me to do? I don’t like the bar/disco scene and I don’t have enough money for the pros so the only possibility for me would be to meet women during the day, but which lines could I use to start a conversation? Do you think it could be a real problem if some colleagues/students notice me approaching? As I wrote above, Briansk is like a big village so the probablity is high.
Your help would be very much appreciated!
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Salut!
You said it already yourself, but the main culprit is yourself. If you can't approach women, then you are out of luck. As you know, Russian girls don't approach men... at least not very often.
Russian students are desperate for fun. Offer them any chance at entertainment and they'll jump on it. You have a lot of opportunities... the kind most members here would be insanely jealous of. I understand you don't have much money and are lonely. So your job must not be that great (no offense)... this also means that you shouldn't worry much about losing it! :)
My suggestion, just a spontaneous thought... why not invite a girl to watch a French film in your apartment? Or if you think this is too forward, invite a few girls at once... serve some wine and cheese and make a French night out of it. Surely you can pick up a French language DVD somewhere in Briansk. Any level of intimacy you can achieve is progress... and seeing girls in a private setting will tell you a lot more about them than in your classroom.
Ultimately of course you want to meet girls alone. All it takes is confidence.
Bez might have said it in a "Bez-o-matic" kind of way, but ultimately he is right. You need some balls. I'm sure you have some, put them to use!
The French are reputed romantics and lovers... why not show the girls this? :)
As soon as you achieve any level of relationship outside the classroom with them, you should see other opportunities open. Main point is, YOU will have to make the first move, YOU will have to make the innuendo leading to other opportunities. Chances are, you'll receive responses you can work on.
Personally I cannot imagine any easier way to score pussy than teaching young studentki. Go for it man!
[QUOTE=Utchitel]Hello everyone!
I decided to write on this forum for the first time as I was very impressed by the deep knowledge of the Russian women psychology showed especially by DocSkank but by other members as well.
Your help would be very much appreciated!
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It would be much easier to score if you were a student. As a teacher, you can try to introduce students to your culture. I would suggest a small party in your place with a few delicatess from France and a movie (or something else) for the beginning. Ask students to bring friends. You can target the friends since you can anger the students by treating them not equally (especially, if it becomes very obvious).
[QUOTE=Svenson75]
Spend more than 6th months there, and your brain will rot with the fcked up mentality that Russians have, and their outlook of life... not even constant pussy can save your butt there, it's time to get out![/QUOTE]
Svenson75,
Can you elaborate a little on this Russian mentality you're so fond of, especially proviancial folks?
I was in a RFE town for about a week, with what the news media is trying blast to the citizens everyday, it really had a eerie feeling of Gotham City without Batman.
What is this mentality you're talking about? What is their outlook on life? Please enlighten us.
I've driven through Nevada and California desert towns before, they're alright. I've been to provincial Chinese countryside too, I felt okay. Somehow I just don't think the Russians will get out of their cars to help with your tires or invite you in for a cup of tea even as a gesture.
why is that? Just part of their culutre? Is it nature or nurture? Interesting.
HT
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]This is a strange story, if it is true.
You knew ahead of time that even in a city the size of Briansk, of 400,000, that your lack of russian speaking would severely limit how many new girlfriends you'd have.
Though after 6 fucking months, even if the only words you know are "Privyet suka!", by now you should be hooked up.
Somebody's always seducing somebody, its like the national pastime. Unless you're really interesting, why would anyone care less about your affairs?
We're not gonna feel sorry for you being lonely, since you're over there. If you were in the US, well ok we could understand. But the provinces? You could get off your dumb ass and go bang some hot tail where you are, but we're shut out here with these stuck up greedy ice cubes.
Hey fuck man, YOU should feel sorry for US!
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I have retracted my poor choice of comments. Thus, under reconsideration, read above.
I would like to thank all the members who answered to my message. Your answers were all very interesting and helpful.
Bez, your are a tough teacher but I feel that you are right. I really must at least try to approach, whatever the results. I even can't use the language excuse anymore as my Russian is not so bad now.
You will probably find my question silly but anyway I need to ask it. What kind of opening lines do you like to use when you approach Russian girls during the day (in the streets,shops)? Could you give examples? I really don't know what to say first.
I would like to know the rates for 1 session-whole night for the pro girls in Murmansk.
You guys who have been around in Murmansk for some time, what do you pay?
Don't like to use more than nesseserry.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Dick1]Hey,
Its 5 years cince I was in Murmansk, I guess things are changed a lot.
Is there any Strip tease clubs? Can you take the girls to the room?
Is there any escorte service. Someone with any web adresse?
What do you pay the girls to go to your room?
All information is welcome. Thank you![/QUOTE]
I just have to answer Hat Tricks comments about different people in those three countries he mentioned. Russia, China and USA. He seems to be Yankee boy himself, so his view cannot be all the way in realism with his home land.
So Russians; They can be really rude or most friendly. One really cannot allways see where it comes from. But language barrier plays a big role. I have heard they stop to make major rebuild on tourist's broken car in middle of nowhere. They can also invite you to their home and put table full of food and drinks. Can be everything they have but they share it.
On the other hand, some guys simply punch your nose side of your head, when ever they see you in some provincial towns... Especially if they know you work in their town. Even worse if you really work work eg. being construction worker can be bad, you eat their food...
Chinese are most curious people, they come to every site, just to see what is going on.
And last, Americans! I never saw anybody stopping to help foeigner with tires. Its bull shit. You have been teached that never stop to help unknown people, it can be harmful, they can be bad people. Americans are most scary people on earth that I know. I have lived there many years. Their car doors automatically locks after starting. So much they think other people on the road.
In Finland its criminal not to stop in accident site. You need to help other people. In America you get lawsuit if you try to help. If this person suffers anything afterwards and he will come to you with sleazy lawyers from his insurance company. Thats how I was told by my American work mate when we hit the car crash accident on highway. We just called 911 and sat there watching.
And media. Dont you know where these guys took their media courses? In America, most advantaged propaganda machines can be found there. It was awesome to watch how America prepared war in Iraq. Suddenly religion took much bigger part in media and terrosits where all over, biological attacks by Iraqi terrorists can happen in Times Square in given day now. We need to attack first and so on.
We Americans are innocent, pure and teamed up for all good against all evil and black in this world. And thats why everything we do is categorically ok. Even it may look bloody messy from distance by people who does not know and even worse, does not care!!!
So, no wonder lots of Americans seriously does not understand why they are not liked around the world. We do so much for the world!?? Its media blast, same blast blows in Nebraska, same in Udmurtia
But Americans are very much ok, Russians too. Chinese are mostly ok too but too much in numbers ;))
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[QUOTE=Drifter 39]I just have to answer Hat Tricks comments about different people in those three countries he mentioned. Russia, China and USA. He seems to be Yankee boy himself, so his view cannot be all the way in realism with his home land........ [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the post Drifter39. I knew Americans nowadays get bad press around the world, but I had no idea the wounds were so deep. :)
So easy to stirr up stereotypical anti-american semitism these days. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole. I guessed I asked for it. :)
But what I was looking for here was what people think about Russians, what are the negative perceptions of Russians on the whole through western eyes.
What exactly is this fucked up mentality and sorry outlook on life people are talking about? Pinpoint it please. Examples. I know you all got stories.
Appreciated.
HT
Ciao folks,
Due to my work next week I have to fly to Nizhniy Novgorod. In this forum there are very few info about this very important city and it seems me very strange. Can someone help me giving the right info? come on, please not be jealous about your info, and if you want, please give only private info too and I promise to be reservate. What I need is simple: where to go and the places to avoid to ... I am sure you know what I need.
Thanks in advance for you help amd I will promise that, when I will come back I will write a report about this large russian city.
Ciao
Hat trick, we can see that after all you Yankees are pretty laid back people ;) Thats why I like Americans. In individual level you are very ok.
I know I can be provocative sometimes. I can be also the same from 180 degrees direction. Its all about media blast.
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]
But what I was looking for here was what people think about Russians, what are the negative perceptions of Russians on the whole through western eyes.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about the perception of Russian through western eyes, but through Asian eyes (yep, I'm Asian), I agree with Drifter 39 that they can be most friendly.
I have been many times to Russia, Belarus and Ukraine and find that Russians are spontaneoulsy generous and helpful people. As an example, I always have difficulty walking in the winter when it snows or is icy. If I slip (and I slip regularly), the person next to me immediately try to hold me back. If I fall, 2-3 persons immediately tried to help me standing up again, brushing the snow of my coat and handing me their bottle of vodka for a sip. Some old ladies always advise me to buy new shoes and showed me the nearest shop (with their hands, I don't speak Russian).
In restaurants, on more than one occasion, people at the table next to mine offer me a glass of vodka or ask me to taste a bit of their meal with their broken English "Tourist? Not eat that. Try Russian speciality. Very good!! Try!!!". Problem is that sometimes you are forced to eat things which do not really look tasty and can't leave before having drunk at least 5 glasses of vodka.
On the other hand, in the US, people are less friendly but are also helpful in a different way. They are very well organised. One time, I went dizzy in a mall because of low blood pressure. I think I scared the persons next to me so they jumped away when I reached out for they arms. But after I felt, immediately a few people took their hand phone and called some emergency number. They then stayed in circle around me to make sure nobody would walk on me by accident (I didn't like some of them taking photos with their camera-phone though). After a few minutes, a medic came with all the equipment necessary. That was fast and efficient. In some other countries (I won't name because I don't want to start a flame war), I would just have been left lying there like a dog, with people kicking me when they pass by thinking I'm a dirty drunk beggar.
In restaurants, nobody shared anything with me, but I must say I eat mostly in McDonald and drink coke, so there ain't much room for suggesting something local.
So each country has its good points. I guess you just have to look at the positive side of things.
Jim
PS: I don't wanna say that all Russian people are nice. I was scared to death by some skinheads in St-Pete a few years ago, but I was scared more than once in the US too.
[QUOTE=GandJim]I don't know about the perception of Russian through western eyes, but through Asian eyes (yep, I'm Asian), I agree with Drifter 39 that they can be most friendly.[/QUOTE]
Jim, thanks for the stories bud. I agree with your points and conclusions. I know there are good and bad in every country and race, and every country needs a Luke Skywalker now and then, some more than others. :)
But I'm still waiting for the answers to my questions, I guess I'm drifting off topic here. Maybe I should find the right forum in the online universe and seek my answer elsewhere.
Thanks anyways guys.
HT
[QUOTE=Andy Cap]Due to my work next week I have to fly to Nizhniy Novgorod. In this forum there are very few info about this very important city and it seems me very strange. Can someone help me giving the right info?[/QUOTE]
The only thing I know about Nizhny Novgorod (formerly Gorky) is that the model Natalia Vodianova was discovered there running a fruit stand.
I'd be really curious to know what the local dyevs are like if girls of that quality must resort to selling produce to make a living :) Then again that was the mid 90s.
My guess is that if you stay in one of the better hotels in town you'll have no problem meeting WGs in the bar. Or have a friendly word with the concierge. Best of all, get to know a youngish, with-it taxi driver and share his local knowledge.
But DO check out the regular nightlife, and give us a full and detailed summary of:
1) Which places had the best girls (freebies and/or WGs)
2) Their friendliness/availability
3) Prices (for WGs), drinks/meals expenditure (for 'free' girls)
Although I guess if you're not going to be there for long you won't have time to focus on the freebie scene?
I'm curious as I have long term plans to 'do' the Russian provinces including Murmansk, Kaliningrad, Samara, Tomsk, Novosibirsk etc. Damn, if only TIME grew on trees..
[QUOTE=GandJim]I don't know about the perception of Russian through western eyes, but through Asian eyes (yep, I'm Asian), I agree with Drifter 39 that they can be most friendly.
I have been many times to Russia, Belarus and Ukraine and find that Russians are spontaneoulsy generous and helpful people.
On the other hand, in the US, people are less friendly but are also helpful in a different way. They are very well organised. One time, I went dizzy in a mall because of low blood pressure. I think I scared the persons next to me so they jumped away when I reached out for they arms. But after I felt, immediately a few people took their hand phone and called some emergency number. They then stayed in circle around me to make sure nobody would walk on me by accident (I didn't like some of them taking photos with their camera-phone though). After a few minutes, a medic came with all the equipment necessary. That was fast and efficient. In some other countries (I won't name because I don't want to start a flame war), I would just have been left lying there like a dog, with people kicking me when they pass by thinking I'm a dirty drunk beggar.
PS: I don't wanna say that all Russian people are nice. I was scared to death by some skinheads in St-Pete a few years ago, but I was scared more than once in the US too.[/QUOTE]
Russians have split personalities. They can go from jovial and friendly to berserk and hateful very quickly... they are very emotional people. Very emotional... much more so than Americans or most Europeans, who look at life in a logical fashion. Russians tend to follow their almost childishly naive instinct. These emotions, combined with their belief in fate and tragedy make the women wonderful lovers... and quite easy to convince to follow the passion of the moment.
I wouldn't characterise them as overly friendly though, especially not in the cities. Service is lousy in all but the best restaurants, smiles on the sidewalk or in the metro are almost non-existent and the language itself can be horribly rude. How many times have Russian vets seem Russians, male and female alike, just yell something at a perfect stranger without saying pardon or please? Happens all the time and isn't considered anti-social in Russia.... but from a Western point of view seems totally rude.
They however have their own set of rules... like it is considered very rude to turn down an offer for tea or food at someone's home... or to wear your shoes in someone's apartment.
One scene I'll never forget was riding the metro one evening. A totally drunk young man was sitting across from me slouched over. Everybody was looking at him, but as usual no one said a word in the metro as the train rattled from station to station. At some point the guy got sick and started throwing up in the train. Nobody moved or said anything. After the guy was done throwing up, he apologized solemnly for not controlling himself and an old lady kindly handed him a tissue while saying nothing... the rest of the car said nothing as well and did their best to mind their own business.
I couldn't decide if the drunk's apology, the old lady's kindness or the fact that this must happen so often in trains that nobody thought anything of it impressed me more...
Essentially speaking though, Russians really can be very friendly... but go violent just as quickly. They are emotional, passionate people. I wouldn't really trust the women (I have screwed dozens of married women, girls with fiancees, local and foreign boyfriends etc. without really trying that hard... they seemed to feel no real shame in doing it either) but I can confess that I really adore their passionate, unpredictable nature... at least when expressed by their women... who despite their nature are very loyal (but maybe not faithful) and loving as well. I couldn't find any better women anywhere... at least for me. I am not looking to marry one either though... :)
And I love the way they party... with an indescribable childish passion... like high school kids... loads of fun...
I would more or less have to agree with Dr. Skank.
Russians aren't, at their core, mean people - just on a supeficial level, they are more abrupt and rude (by Western standards). Privacy also is not nearly as respected as it is in the West (though I find the same problem in Southern European cultures - Spain, Italy, Greece etc).
As far as the extreme notions that you wouldn't get help if you had a flat tire, or they'd pass you by if you were on the ground - nonsense. On that level, Russians are at least as helpful as any other people.
I also agree that thier core persona is driven by a lot of different things which we have a hard time relating to - fate and superstition (they can be ridiculously supersticious, and take their supersticions very seriously).
Furthermor, it is a Western standard to be overly friendly with strangers (strictly on a superficial level), whereas, for Russians, they see no compelling reason to act bubbly and feign happiness with strangers.
As for the women being sexually unfaithful - I agree this is true with a relatively high percentage of Russian women, but certainly not with all of them, and I think it is blatantly obvious which women would (or wouldn't) cheat on a guy. If you can't naturally sense this from a woman's behavior/personality, you're in for a lot of trouble in dealing with the opposite sex - in Russia, China, or Timbuktoo for that matter....
On the privacy issue, I've always had one unrelenting fear while staying in apartments in Russia/Ukraine areas - being ratted out by one of the neighbors. I could just see one of the older nieghborhood women saying to a GF, as we walk in, "Do you know how many different girls he has coming back to his apartment day and night?!".
I've never (yet) had this happen, thankfuly, but it is a persistent fear. I bring it up as I actually read of this happening from a guy on a Brazil forum (sure would like to go to Rio....reading about it is about as close as I'm going to get for now....).
Has anybody ever actually experienced such a problem? Does anyone at least suffer from the same fear as me?
[QUOTE=Street Sleuth]
Has anybody ever actually experienced such a problem? Does anyone at least suffer from the same fear as me?[/QUOTE]
No, never experienced such a problem. But I think my situation is different. The neighbors probably know that I'm a tourist staying in a short term rental apartment and, given my age (over 50) and the girls' age (usually under 25), they certainly guessed that they are not my girlfriends, but working girls.
Jim
[QUOTE=Andy Cap]
I have to fly to Nizhniy Novgorod.
If someone help give info I promise I will write a report.
[/QUOTE]
You also made the same promise when you went to Yekaterinberg, Bielsko, and Romania, and then you didn't post anything.
Russians are very real and emotional which can sometimes seem rude and abrupt. Americans and British are more fake. Germans and Scandinavians are more direct, which from American standpoint can sometimes seem a little rude. Back to Russians, they can be the warmest and kindest but are also capable of being the nastiest. I have been so overwhelmed by their kindness towards me, a total stranger, yet I have also been annoyed by their rudeness and corruption. You never know what you're gonna get in Russia. Guess that's what makes them so interesting.
[QUOTE=Utchitel]Hello everyone!
I decided to write on this forum for the first time as I was very impressed by the deep knowledge of the Russian women psychology showed especially by DocSkank but by other members as well.
I have been working in a provincial Russian town (Briansk) as a French teacher since September of last year. I teach in the local state university. My relations with colleagues and students are difficult. I come from France. They look at me as if I came from another planet though I speak Russian at a basic level. They seem to be afraid of me. As far as I know I am the only westerner who is living in this town. There are a few Americans but they are all religious missionaries.
I feel completely lonely here after 6 months. I had a fling with a high school teacher but it was by luck and I was not very interested by her anyway. It is all the more frustrating as there are so many very beautiful girls everywhere in this city (especially in the university where I teach but I can’t do anything here of course). It was a big surprise for me as I know some Russians in France and they are much friendlier than the locals here.
I would like to do some approaches here but Briansk is a small town. Everyday I see by chance some students/colleagues. If I start to approach like this I am afraid that I will be very quickly notice. It would be much easier if I was here just for a few weeks I guess but I am living in this city.
It would be the same problem if I tried to seduce some of my beautiful students I suppose. At the beginning I thought that they (almost all girls) will naturally socialize with me as it was always like that in my previous teaching experiences abroad. But nothing happened. At the end of the lesson they leave the classroom without asking any questions. It is strange since French is their main subject and I am the only native in town. It would be in their interest to socialize with me, no? If I make propositions, especially after 6 months, I would look very desperate. I am the main culprit I know. I probably should have tried to socialize with them first during the first days but I thought mistakenly that it would be easier for them to approach me.
On the other hand I must fight this terrible loneliness (the only sms and calls that I receive on my mobile phone come from France!) and frustration, so I feel I have nothing to lose anymore. I can’t believe that I feel lonelier in Russia than in France with all those beautiful women around, especially after reading some of the amazing reports on this forum, but it is a crude fact. What would you advise me to do? I don’t like the bar/disco scene and I don’t have enough money for the pros so the only possibility for me would be to meet women during the day, but which lines could I use to start a conversation? Do you think it could be a real problem if some colleagues/students notice me approaching? As I wrote above, Briansk is like a big village so the probablity is high.
Your help would be very much appreciated!
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Am I reading this right?
Believe it or not, you're at a very enviable position. Lots of men would love to switch place with you. You're a Frenchman teaching French in an university in Russia where you're the only foreigher in town. All the stars are lined up for you. What more do you want? Be more confident and talk to girls after class. And try to learn Russian. You can offer to teach them French and ask them to teach you Russian in return at your place. Pretty soon you can expect them to put their tongues in the right places. Even some bozos from third world countries can score left and right in Russia. Are you really French? Come on, you can do this. Start asking girls out today.
That's why I said that HE should feel sorry for US, (and why I'll bet the whole story is BS).
Bez and Charlie H,
If you think I am so lucky what are you waiting for to teach English in any Russian town for 200 dollars a month? It would be even much easier for you than for me as there is a huge need of native English teachers. You can come anytime, any Russian university would welcome you.
Unless you prefer to stay in your country, earning high wages and travel a few times a year in Russia, spending 200 Euros each evening for the chicks in the cities of your choice.On those conditions it is obviously much easier to score. I couldn't do that because even in France my salary is to low for that. So, who are the luckiest?
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra](and why I'll bet the whole story is BS).[/QUOTE]
What on earth would be his motive? The dilemma rings true to me.
Utchitel, one thing you always have to remember is that the Russian dyevs expect you to make the first move. They may like you, and would welcome your approach, but you'll never know unless you find an opportunity to talk and find out. If you do not, for them, you are uninterested.
One good tip, because I swear it works, even if I myself had the "privilege" of being flamed by Bez for it several years back :-), is to find an occasion to give them a few flowers. These are not working girls. To us it sounds romantic and old-fashioned, but many of these girls ARE romantic and old-fashioned, having grown up in close Russian families with values we no longer know, and they get little of that sort of treatment from the local men. And as Doc Skank points out, they'll go surprisingly far once they are in the mood. It costs us little, but usually it's the first time they've ever received flowers in their lives. It's not coincidence that the internet dating sites do a sideline in selling flowers, teddy bears and whatever. It's clever marketing, and it increases your chances too.
8th March, Intl Women's Day, would have been an ideal opportunity, but you'll find others, if you delve a bit.
I'll be Tulipana in Bez's next post. LOL. Hey, Bez, love your photos though. ;-)
Toscana, internet dating sites do it because they make $15 off of every $20 in flowers they deliver, thats it.
Next you are going to tell me that internet dating sites exist because people want to make sure you find your soul mate - not to make a quick easy buck.
Anyone who sends flowers/gifts to a girl he never met through an internet dating site is walking a fool's path.
[QUOTE=Toscana] It's not coincidence that the internet dating sites do a sideline in selling flowers, teddy bears and whatever. It's clever marketing, and it increases your chances too.
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Gotta agree, sending flowers/etc via dating sites is a total waste of time/money.
However, in this guy's shoes, it may be a different scenario. In person, after knowing a girl, its different - I've been near slapped for not buying flowers on March 8 - no one in EE would take you for a tool for gifting any woman any gift on March 8. Any other day, and its another story....
Just the same, I don't know as though giving flowers would be the way to go - it would be really wierd. What is he supposed to do, go into class with a bouquet of flowers in hand, and say, "Natasha, please come to the chalkboard - I have a gift for you....".
Much better to be discrete, especially given the guy's personality. Just find a way to talk to a girl on her own, then suggest a language exchange - its perfectly viable, acceptable, and will inevitably end up in much more if you are interested in her.
One more point I could give Ychitel - girls there may seem a bit cold to you - but they'll be this way even if they like you - often, they just assume that they don't have a chance with you. Its up to you to let them know the door is wide open...
Toscana and Street sleuth, thanks for your help and support. I am very grateful for it.
Street Sleuth, I would like to propose those kind of language exchange but in case of a refusal the girl will probably talk with her collegues about my proposal and I could very quickly get the reputation of the teacher who approach his students.That is the main reason of my passivity.
The safest way would be to ask to all the class that I need a language exchange but then I can't know who will answer. It is a real dilemma.
Jeez! You guys twist shit around so much that you're arguing about arguing!
And now you got me complaining about complaining. Ugh!
All right, well anyway, Toscana was NOT suggesting sending gifts to internet dates, he was telling our hapless French pastry puff to go spend five dollars and give some cutie 3 roses to make her smile. His point about the internet is that the gift sales are a sideline biz.
Let me break it down for you boys. You show up empty handed to meet a girl, you're just being a fucking cheap ass. The 14 flower stalls at the central market know me too well. My driver laughs because I usually buy about 3 sets of 3 roses, and stash the extras in the hatchback. That way, if the first one or even two girls who I'll meet in the afternoon don't measure up to my moderately high standards, (I give them all flowers when we meet, even if only its just a "oh, hello and gosh you're so homely I have to leave right now"), I'll still have some to give to a third dyev later that evening. If any are left over, Misha takes them home for his woman. Anyway, listen to Toscana, he knows what he's talking about.
Well, except for him saying that you are the first time in some dyev's life that anyone gave them flowers. Reality check? Please don't fool yourself that you're prince charming rescuing her from the castle tower on your white horse!
And except for him saying I flamed him, I have too much class to resort to inflicting mean spirited insults and bullying naive newbies. I am above that kind of low brow mindlessness. Do I expose garbage and bullshit with brutally direct verbal samurai swords and occasional merciless bursts of commentary plutonium? Well....., yeah. Somebody's gotta do it.
Toscana. What's tulipana?
Almost for got to post something truly shocking. This is mega-pussy Marina. She has an amazon snatch, capable of engulfing compact cars, lightweight trucks, and even the odd motorboat, in her engorged protruberences.
Bez,
I think you're ignoring the original issue, dealing with Ychitel. His real issue is not what to do on a date, but how to get one in the first place!
Sure, once he has a date, he can give her flowers - but he has to have the date first....giving flowers to a girl prior to that would be just plain odd.
I really don't think this guy would have troubles on a date - he just doesn't know how to go about approaching the girls to set one up. Flowers ain't it. Given his situation, 'language exchange' is a no-brainer, low-risk, almost guaranteed to succeed option.
GOD PLEASE! The guys probably a virgin. Or some Quasimodo unibrow hermaphrodite. And its just not even interesting because its beyond absurd that any monger worth his weight in astroglide could spend 6 months in fucking CANDYLAND and not know "what to say".
He's in CANDYLAND, remember??? You could just make fuckin' grunting sounds at these tramps and still get laid. If any of US, spent more than one short week inside that university without having totally and thoroughly drilled and debauched SOME lucky student body, we be hacking our nuts clean off and returning them back to the factory for an overhaul.
Ichthyasaurus shouldn't be reading and posting on ISG, he needs to subscribe to the "I think I forgot to go through puberty" board.
This is CANDYLAND. No questions required.
In the spirit of ISG it's really clear what the school teacher has to offer.
BJ's for A's
French tutoring?
Really, this is too easy.
Okay, some advice he can actually use - if he's worried about working his student body the solution is easy. Just go to the next town or city during his down time, d'oh. But then again, really..is every single young attractive girl in the town in his French class? Maybe Bez is right - he occasional is, maybe it's all just a put on. Won't be the first time in ISG history.
And wtf am I doing in the Russian thread, I'm going back to Kiev where I belong.
Bez, I will start to worry when guys like you will make me compliments. So please, keep going mate!
Street Sleuth, you once again perfectly understood my situation. My main problem by far is approaching. Once I have a date it is much easier.
[QUOTE=Cruiser D]In the spirit of ISG it's really clear what the school teacher has to offer.
BJ's for A's
French tutoring?
Really, this is too easy.
Okay, some advice he can actually use - if he's worried about working his student body the solution is easy. Just go to the next town or city during his down time, d'oh.[/QUOTE]
I have some sympathy with this guy - before I lucked into ISG I was pretty clueless and timid too, although 6 months in Candyland without a nibble is hard to believe. Even with the guy supposed to take the initiative, I am surprised some girl did not find an excuse to get close.
I like the advice someone gave about hosting a "French dinner" and inviting anyone in the class who is interested. This is non-threatening and not embarrassing - it is a perfectly natural invitation anywhere except America. (I am assuming it is mostly women, you certainly don't want Boris there.) After some wine and nibblies I think your opportunities will open up. This does not have to be expensive - just some wine and bread and cheese, cheaper than a lot of dates in restaurants.
During the dinner you can float the "private French lessons" gambit, or the corrallory, private Russian lessons for you. See who volunteers. Either way, whoever stays the latest is your best prospect.
I don't imagine there would be any problem with dating one of your students. In fact they are probably all amazed you are not already doing this. They probably think you are gay.
If your goal is to find one girlfriend to keep you warm at night, this should suffice.
If your goal is to get as much pussy as you can manage, I would try a try a version of Cruiser D's "BJ's for A's". Pick a girl who is not doing well in class and ask her to stay behind. Tell her you are concerned about her progress and offer to help her - private French lessons, at your apartment (or start at a neutral location, like a cafe, if you are that concerned, then move to your apartment for the "French Dinner" gambit - but private with this one student).
If she doesn't bite, move onto the next one - there is nothing wrong and everything right with offering private tutoring. So what if the girls start to exchange whispers or speculation? This will only serve to provide "word of mouth" advertising to those who might be interested, and will start to approach you for "private tutoring". I don't think the girls will be offended. They expect to be exploited by men with power and foreigners.
Cheers, and let us know how its going - by next week!
GT
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]
Well, except for him saying that you are the first time in some dyev's life that anyone gave them flowers. Reality check? [/QUOTE]
Amazing perhaps, but this has often been my experience. And it's been out in the wild provinces, which is your favourite grazing area too, Bez. Must be the nicer type of girls I go for. :-) :-)
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]
Toscana. What's tulipana?
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You have a funny line in twisting forum names, and I was just trying to help you along... LOL
On a serious note to anyone going the flowers route in Russia: if it's roses at least, remember it has to be an ODD number. Even numbers signal bad luck, we are told. Boy, Utchitel, everyone except Bez is just bursting to read your report. Plenty of flowery descriptions please. Bonne fortune.
To my frensh teacher.
I have three tips for you,
Even in Briansk, which is close to Europe and not Siberia, there should be maybe 100 girls in the age 20-40 who has lived in France, maybe as SW or had a relationship with a Frensh man. Many of them could have children, but has been thrown out of France, why not have "Frensh for Children" every Saturday between 10 and 12, for children aged 5-8 years old. Maybe the child has spoken Frensh his/her first years, and their mothers, if they are clever don't want their children to loose Frensh. Also many "rich" women in Briansk, will want to put their children there.
The word will spread, many women will be interested in you.
It will not be as formal as it can be at University.
My second tip; Go to a student pub, disco. Maybe the evening after an exam. Just be there with a smile, buy some beers 15RUB (?), be funny, talk Frensh to everyone, before you know it you will be sitting at a table with some guys who want to talk about Zidane, some of your students who are a little worried about the exam, and the girls girlfriend. The latter is the intreseting girls who you should pay much attention. Ask one of your students to translate, discuss why they sell vodka in Grams and not Centilitre. Discuss the Code Napoleon, discuss the Philosophy, discuss ,...
My 3rd tip. Go to [url]www.mheart.ru[/url] it is a free dating site for FSU. There are 1913 girls in Briansk between 20 and 35.
Just cut and paste and write to all of them. Before you know it, you will have problems to remember who is who, and which girl you are supposed to meet at which place.
Good luck. 90 % of the girls in Briansk want to leave the city. They are preperad to cheat on their husband, boyfriend to get to France. Go for it, and good luck.
Any current info on Sochi, particularly places to stay like apartments or girl-friendly hotels? I've got quite a bit of info already from the net, but am wondering if anybody has been there recently and can recommend something. Thx!
Anyone have info on Saratov. Will be visiting soon & need to find some afternoon delight. Perferably within 10 min walk of the conservatory.
[QUOTE=Intlpete]Anyone have info on Saratov. Will be visiting soon & need to find some afternoon delight. Perferably within 10 min walk of the conservatory.[/QUOTE]Saratov is a lovely city on the Volga. I had two girls when I was there last June. I had gone to meet a girl I saw on an internet porn site (Livejasmin, but girls from the city can also be found on webcams.com) and ended up hooking up with her friend. I rented a basic 1-room flat for about 35 bucks a night for 6 nights. I also had a girl come over - Marguerite - who spoke pretty good English. I was so surprised! In Saratov escort service numbers will be stamped onto the doors of apartment buildings a la guerilla advertising. Just call up and a thug will drive over some girls in a beat up car for you to pick from - they cost 500 rubles/hr., which is interesting, seeing as that the average taxi ride costs 150. I met another girl that seemed to work for an agency because she had a bag full of makeup that she was selling - and the ***** from the previous evening had said that she claims to sell makeup as a cover. Girls are very easy to get there, but the city isn't easy to get to. None of the major airlines fly there so you'll have to take Saravia from Moscow Domodedovo. Good luck!
For those of you that want an English-savvy small Russian city, Yaroslavl is a great bet. The i-net porn industry has been set up for years there and it's still possible to get a girl (who doesn't speak English) for 600p. So you can be shown the sites by the English speaking girl, who can help you rent a flat, and then call up escort services and the like. Next to McDonalds on Ul. Sloboda is the Circus - there's a side door on the far side from the McDonalds where you can find a sauna. I didn't go the last time I was in the city, but I saw a gaggle of girlies waiting outside the sauna door. And it was Saturday afternoon!
Very interested in theses 2 destinations, Yaroslavl & Saratov.
Can you please give an idea of what business activites led you to these cities, and can we assume that you ARE russian, or if not, how you became a fluent russian speaker.
Going to these places without pre-established contacts to meet you at train station or airport, or without a flat pre-arranged would be basically impossible for a first time non-russian speaking monger, and it would be highly unlikely that any kind of travel agency exists there to assist an english speaking visitor, either for business or tourist. That is, without a legitimate registered business company providing you inviting dokuments, what possible chance would there be to have some agency send you tourist invitation dokuments to obtain a visa?
So assuming this isn't possible, how would somebody even know how to find a business to give you a legit invitation? That also doesn't seem like it would be anything short of impossible, unless you already do a lot of business in other cities there now.
Ok, if that's not asking too much, (OY!), just curious if you had any fotos? I mean, if Yaroslavl is such a porn mecca, then one would assume fotos there are a standard part of any monger's activity, right?
Hi,
Planning to visit Kursk this summer for about a week in July. Wondering if I should hire from Moscow an escort for that period? Any thoughts or recommendations on that?
Thinking of a long-term let as on my previous journeys to obsure Russian towns/cities as a non-Russian speaker I have had some experiences but few of them sexual.
Minsk, Belgorod, Astrakhan, Volgograd, Krasnodar and Kharkov have all had some fun but at best striptease joints and when very lucky the odd semi-pro. Tired of this desert of funless Russian nights and want to ensure a supply of success is taken with me. Easier and quicker than learning Russian.
Anyone taken a week's hire sight unseen?
Bizoh
Blaked, I have the same questions as Bez. Please enlighten us. It'd be nearly impossible for a non-Russian, non-Russian speaker without contacts to venture to Saratov and Yaroslav. Please tell us more about your background. It'd help us non-Russians to set expectations. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Bizoh]Hi,
Planning to visit Kursk this summer for about a week in July. Wondering if I should hire from Moscow an escort for that period? Any thoughts or recommendations on that?
Anyone taken a week's hire sight unseen?
Bizoh[/QUOTE]
I am no expert, but I cannot believe it is worth your while to drag a Moscow escort with you on your travels. You would be paying Moscow prices for service in the hinterland, and probably getting a Moscow attitude about it.
Surely it would be better to do the reverse - find a girl in Kursk interested in a week long sponsorship, and bring her to Moscow with you at the end, if she proves worth it.
But I understand your interest in having a reliably filled bed each night, rather than spending a lot of time hunting, with uncertain prospects.
I do know of a girl who does this in Kharkiv, which is much closer to Kursk.
I have not used her myself, but she seems pretty good and is for real.
PM me if you want the details...
Let us know which approach you take, and how it turns out!
GT
I may be spending a few days in these hell-holes in June.
I have searched the Forum and found only one year-old report on Chelyabinsk, which does look useful. Nothing on Arkhangelsk.
Anybody have current information or experience on these cities?
Or am I boldly going where no monger has gone before...?
Any advice would be appreciated!
GT
I was staying last November in Chelyabinsk for one night only arriving at 1am from Saint Petersburg. I was staying in Hotel Meridian which is a bit out of the center (you're not missing much there anyway) and after 20 mins I checked in my room they were calling me and asking "was it you asking for a girl in your room? ":.) I denied as it was already too late and after another 20 mins a girl called directly offering her services.
The hotel anyway was nice and clean. Honestly I met a couple of families at check out which were there to daughter some children. So I was surprised for the "business service" they were offering. But that was it! :.)
The next day after my meetings I rented a car to go to EKaterinburg where I've a "regular" girlfriend. So I can't tell you more about it.
Anyway hotel Meridian is quite suggested by my side! And by the way I'll also be there around (Ekaterinburg. Novosibirsk. Tomsk. Moscow etc etc) in June.
Have fun!
Ciao
[QUOTE=CharlieH]Blaked, I have the same questions as Bez. Please enlighten us. It'd be nearly impossible for a non-Russian, non-Russian speaker without contacts to venture to Saratov and Yaroslav. Please tell us more about your background. It'd help us non-Russians to set expectations. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Oh I know a few people there but they're all camsluts (I don't know if that's good or bad). You can email me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]. I've got this overweight American friend from Cali that regularly goes to Ivanovo and hooks up with girls he met on cam sites. This guy, keep in mind, is uggggly (God bless him, he's my buddy). But he's still managed to pull it off maybe 3x out of the 4x he's been here.
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My company is posting me on a temp basis to Sakhalin. I know its a long way north and east, but anyone have any ideas or info on action there. Some guysI have talked to say its heaven as a lot of the workforce are Russian women. Also any info on travel routes from Europe or North America/
Thanks
Cap
[QUOTE=Captain Fire]
My company is posting me on Sakhalin.
Any travel routes from Europe
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Its cheaper from Khabarovsk, only $26.
(+7000 miles closer)
This will be my first ever visit to Russia, I am as excited as a kid before Xmas. A business trip is bringing me to Ekaterinburg. I have RTTF'd a bit but haven't found much about this city (may be I didn't look properly but couldn't find a report less than 1 year old).
Any place/club interesting to visit? I will be staying at tha Atrium Palace Hotel, which seems to be the best hotel in town. Any action at the bar?
I don't speak Russian (I'll have a beginner's book with me, that's it), so I guess it won't be that easy. I will be in Moscow the next day (one evening only) so hopefully if I can't' strike a deal in Ekaterinburg I'll have more opportunities in Moscow. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Mindighet Lechat
Actually, knowing no Russian is a problem, but not an insurmountable one.
I first went to Russia in 1999 (Moscow), and eventually worked in Moscow and all over the CIS for six years, accumulating in learning decent(ish) Russian and traveling to probably 20-30 cities/towns, from Kaliningrad, Volgograd, Nizhny Novgorod thru to hellish backwater towns in the middle of Uzbekistan. I know Russia probably as well as any expat, and likely a hell of a lot better. Not out of choice in many cases as my company (large US) sent me to many provincial hellholes all over.
Moscow is a no brainer. I mean with the Boar House (sadly declined considerably since its heyday in 1999/2000 and now a shadow of its former self), through PJ's, Karma/Buddha, RMCoys (actually not easy to pickup in here as its way too small), NF and Prop etc etc its easy to get laid, whether for cash or for free, without a single word of Russian. Rates? BH (when it was known as Chesterfields, as indeed it is still known by some Ho's) it was $50/75/100 max. Now... $100-150. Its a crazy spiral upwards and the girls have gone from 7-9's down to 6-7's. The old days are over. You still have O'Leary of course on the bar corner... he will no doubt give you some advice (nice chap). You can even pick up hotties in a McD's if you have a little Russian. Actually thats only if they don't speak English (and many do of course). Russia is still great.. but the days of the "Great White God" factor and VJ and the Shah (even the exile has gone downhill mega).
Met the most beautiful girl in the World in Tula in April 2003 (just outside of Moscow) - she was a 10. And impossible to lay. Cest la vie. But I may even go back just to locate her! Been meaning to.
Back to the main topic. I know Expats (Americans/Germans/etc) who have ventured to shitholes outside of Moscow and managed to get laid with four words of Russian every expat knows (nyet, da, spasiba, piva). Like many of these places, opportunities open up simply by speaking to the Barman/taxi Driver or whoever you find who can speak a few words of English.
My mate got laid three times for free in Volgograd, and twice in Kaliningrad (both weekend jaunts) and he's fugly as hell (f****** ugly) with NO Russian. BUT he's like a mini cash machine and he's NOT Russian (thats what counts in many cases). In Russia you often find yourself hooking up with the oddest of people in the oddest of circumstances. People really want to communicate. And women want to get laid. Money/Prostitiution is a hazy grey area in Russia like many other places. Take it as you find it. But take a laid back approach and you'll find others do to. If you come across as a sex starved asshole you'll part with a few ben frankilins pronto (and you may have got laid for free).
Don't let your lack of Russian deter you from visiting the provinces. However one piece of advice I advise STRONGLY (for Moscow as well) is to learn Cyrillic (it's easy) so at least you can read menus/signs etc. They are rarely in English esp. outside Moscow. Most expats in Moscow know little Russian and rarely venture outside the Rosinter chain (PP know El Patio, Rostiks, ABG etc where English is available) and the expat bars. So they are somewhat lost in the Provinces :)
Also be careful not to get ripped off. To be fair, Russia is relatively safe as long as you take sensible precautions. I only got ripped off three times in seven years (all of the times I was drunk and was ripped off around $100).
Like all "advice" on this board. take it with a pinch of salt. I hate self-proclaimed experts. I'm not pretending I'm one. but I'm willing to answer any questions. (Myself I'm a Ukraine newbie so I'm also into asking questions!)
Happy Hunting.
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[QUOTE=It Travel]Yes Bez it's true
In 2003 in provincial Russia it was even nearly impossible to even change €!
By the way I must say that always I go around with roubles! An pay every body with roubles everywhere outside Moscow.
IT[/QUOTE]Moscow is the easiest place to change dollars and euros in the entire world, probably - it's a much better place in that respect than the UK, US or EU-12. The spread is always very tight, as many people are paid in dollars or Euros. The Euro is eclipsing the dollar as a 2nd currency for Russia - once upon a time prices were denominated in y.e. (units of equivalency) ie dollars. Now, it's usually rubles and sometimes Euros. The dollar has fallen from 32/$1 to 25.5/$1 since I arrived. The Euro has gained about 2 rubles - it's gone from 33 to 35 or so Euros.
[QUOTE=Blaked]Moscow is the easiest place to change dollars and euros in the entire world, probably - it's a much better place in that respect than the UK, US or EU-12. The spread is always very tight, as many people are paid in dollars or Euros. The Euro is eclipsing the dollar as a 2nd currency for Russia - once upon a time prices were denominated in y.e. (units of equivalency) ie dollars. Now, it's usually rubles and sometimes Euros. The dollar has fallen from 32/$1 to 25.5/$1 since I arrived. The Euro has gained about 2 rubles - it's gone from 33 to 35 or so Euros.[/QUOTE]Actually dollars are universally accepted in Russia, and when they aren't (most shops and hotels) they usually point you to an official (or unofficial) changer.
Your problem may be with earlier USD notes of course, or defaced or torn notes. They aren't welcome anywhere although sperbank will change them (for a few % less).
In Moscow (and elsewhere) you are often penalised for changing less than 100 USD with a percentage - look at the small print.
As for exchanges in Moscow its best to shop around. For example with the 5-6 exchanges in Taganskaya (Central'ish Moscow) the difference can be amazing - even exchanges 1 minute apart (thats Russian logic for you). This may of course also to do with Money Laundering (too complex to discuss here and not relevent).
As for the Euro being more accepted than the Dollar. The Dollar is still King. Although the Ruble is accepted far more readily anywhere in Russia than either the Dollar or Euro.
Big issue for foreigners is they can't have ruble denominated accounts in Banks. That always annoys me :)
[QUOTE=Privetprivet]
Big issue for foreigners is they can't have ruble denominated accounts in Banks.
[/QUOTE]
So if I deposit $9,000 cash in my Citibank savings account in New York City, all I have to do is walk into the Citibank branch bank in Novosibirsk and show my passport and account identification, and the bank will give me my $9,000 in dollars? Just like that?
[QUOTE=Blaked]Moscow is the easiest place to change dollars and euros in the entire world, probably - it's a much better place in that respect than the UK, US or EU-12. The spread is always very tight, as many people are paid in dollars or Euros. The Euro is eclipsing the dollar as a 2nd currency for Russia - once upon a time prices were denominated in y.e. (units of equivalency) ie dollars. Now, it's usually rubles and sometimes Euros. The dollar has fallen from 32/$1 to 25.5/$1 since I arrived. The Euro has gained about 2 rubles - it's gone from 33 to 35 or so Euros.[/QUOTE]
Now I do not remember the street, but it's easy to find when you get in the Red Square from Tverskaya the first street to the left should be Nikoliskaya. If you go further the GUM entrance, at the next corner, you will find (now I do not remember if it is Vetosny pereulok or Bogojavlenskij pereoulok, exactly on the corner you will find a Change taking nearly everything, from Yen to Canadian $, to Danisk Crowns or Romanian Lei.
It's a useful place because after all my travel I have always my pockets full of small bills, put all together and get my 2.000-3.000 RUR there when I'm just walking.
By the way thier change for USD or Euros is not so good.
One of the best found is the booth well signed just in the middle of small shops between Partisanzkaya Metro and Izmailovo hotel, they even change (usually) pre 1990 USD or 500 Euro notes at really good rates, otherwise go to a Seberbank office!
IT
PS if you go in to the deep Russia you can now take Euros but get 50 and 100 bills, as for dollars mostly common are 20 and 100. Maximum important take new ones! Mind that nowdays most of the bankomats (all in Moscow!) works even with your cards! And your surcharge or change lost might be really small. In my case, with a Master Card I get a fee of 2.5 € and the official day change (as in the booths) for taking out approx 8.000-8.500 RUR.
IT
[QUOTE=Privetprivet]Actually, knowing no Russian is a problem, but not an insurmountable one.
Also be careful not to get ripped off. To be fair, Russia is relatively safe as long as you take sensible precautions. I only got ripped off three times in seven years (all of the times I was drunk and was ripped off around $100).
Like all "advice" on this board. take it with a pinch of salt. I hate self-proclaimed experts. I'm not pretending I'm one. but I'm willing to answer any questions. (Myself I'm a Ukraine newbie so I'm also into asking questions!)
Happy Hunting.
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I totally agree with you...
In the provincial Russia you still get laid with the "taxameter" a special amount per hour, if you want one or twelve it's your business... and you usually find nice naive and inexperienced teens (the one I prefer!) you can easily get one for approx. 150 USD a night...
IT
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]So if I deposit $9,000 cash in my Citibank savings account in New York City, all I have to do is walk into the Citibank branch bank in Novosibirsk and show my passport and account identification, and the bank will give me my $9,000 in dollars? Just like that?[/QUOTE]No, CitiBank ZAO is a separate Russian entity and actually has no legal connection to CitiBank USA, hard to believe but true. Its quite complex but can lead to problems.
You'll have to open a Citibank ZAO USD account in Russia and do a SWIFT/IBAN transfer as normal to a Dollar denonimated transfer from your US (Citibank) account.
I have to do this all the time and it pisses me off.
[QUOTE=Privetprivet]No, CitiBank ZAO is a separate Russian entity and actually has no legal connection to CitiBank USA, hard to believe but true. Its quite complex but can lead to problems.
You'll have to open a Citibank ZAO USD account in Russia and do a SWIFT/IBAN transfer as normal to a Dollar denonimated transfer from your US (Citibank) account.
I have to do this all the time and it pisses me off.[/QUOTE]To add to this, if you are spending any time in Russia, open a USD account at a local RaiffeisenBank, CitiBank or Bank Societe General etc. You will need Passport, Registration and an employers letter (usually, but you can supply something you did on your PC's laser printer). They will give you a Visa/MC debit card to use with the account.
As I said, these are not foreign branches, foreign banks even but separate Russian ZAO legal entities governed by the (ever changing) Russian Banking Code - which changes almost weekly.
Happy Hunting.
It's worth browsing the photo gallery of this club in Krasnodar. Lots of smokin hot brunettes.
[url]http://www.nebesaclub.ru/foto/index.shtml[/url]
:)
[QUOTE=Prosal]
It's the photo gallery of this club in Krasnodar.
[/QUOTE]
You definitely DO NOT get the impression of "poor FSU girls".
Looks VERY upscale. They do not have the look of the kind of girls that would easily fuck anyone except handsome young locals boys they already know or fatcat oligarchs. Or only the most attractive russian fluent mongers with the "A" game for pulling freebies out of clubs.
They almost look like models that get shipped in for the parties, but go to any university, pick out the top 20 or 30 stunners, dress them to kill, and you don't need the models anymore.
[QUOTE=Prosal]It's worth browsing the photo gallery of this club in Krasnodar. Lots of smokin hot brunettes.
[url]http://www.nebesaclub.ru/foto/index.shtml[/url]
:)[/QUOTE]
Bez is right, Joe Monger-Tourist doesn't stumble into clubs like that and leave with a girl in tow... most likely he will stumble out of the club alone and intimidated and not knowing what time of day it is... 'cause he isn't going to get it from the girls.
Those kind of clubs do demand a-game, luck and language skills.
If you got it, go for it... if not... or you simply aren't willing to work so hard, try the local unis. Girls are often more fun there anyway. You'll even find girls there who prefer fried liver to sushi and prefer beer to expensive silly cocktails.
Both types have their advantages and it's impossible to say which ones fuck better or have the better bodies. When they're naked the glam effect of clothes and jewelry is reduced to zero.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Bez is right, Joe Monger-Tourist doesn't stumble into clubs like that and leave with a girl in tow...[/QUOTE]
In fact I posted the link as the owner of this club is a fellow-countryman of mine and a friend-of-a-friend with who I had diner a few weeks ago.
He's an ex-pilot retired from our national company, and now lives in Krasnodar. He first went there to work for an oligarch who owns a private jet, and then opened this huge glam disco, very trendy, in association with his ex-boss. Curiously the third associate is a black guy.
Do I need to say that Krasnodar is now on the top of my to-do list ?
:)
[QUOTE=Prosal]In fact I posted the link as the owner of this club is a fellow-countryman of mine I had diner with a few weeks ago.
He's a friend-of-a-friend, ex-pilot retired from our national company, and now lives in Krasnodar. He first went there to work for an oligarch who owns a private jet, and then opened this huge glam disco, very trendy, in association with his ex-boss. Curiously the third associate is a black guy.
Of course this diner has put Krasnodar on the top of my to-do list.
:)[/QUOTE]
I may visit Krasnodar and Sochi in the fall... the locale has been added to my list as well. :)
Looks like any of the other glam clubs existing in Russia... nice places and can be fun.
I honestly have just as much fun sometimes drinking Baltika from the can with dried fish and 3 giggling teens near some zentralny fontan in any podunk city though.
Priviet Doc kak dela?
Any good adresses like sauna disco or beach in Sochi?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Max34]Priviet Doc kak dela?
Any good adresses like sauna disco or beach in Sochi?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Sorry mate, met a super sexpot on opening night and almost never left the hotel room. Kinda pathetic I admit, but damn she was hot. Liked her nipples pulled and to be spanked, role-playing and stuff. Nice city though, I'll be back.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]
I drink Baltika from the can with dried fish and 3 giggling teens near zentralny fontan in podunk city.
[/QUOTE]
This IS the Bez lifestyle to a T-ski. :p
(of course, I learned this from every Russian or Ukrainian guy I made friends with)
[QUOTE=Prosal] Lots of smokin' hot brunettes ... [/QUOTE]
Yeah, yeah, they're ok. I usually get better looking girls than that in Ukraine.
It's actually worth mentioning Yalta here as demographically and historically it is 'in' Russia. I think the glam clubs on Yalta's promenade (one's called Tornado, and the other's name I forget but it's part of Hotel Oreanda) are the last word in glammed up students looking for fun. Yalta's just a bit of a pain in the rear to get to and is only really alive June-August.
I've been using AnastasiaWeb recently (focussing on provincial Ukraine: Lvov and, in the next few weeks, Nikolaev) and believe me, it is packed full of the most unbelievable young cuties. Really fresh-faced, genuinely nice girls.
You pay to use the service, and no doubt are expected to deliver the visa, western passport and lifestyle at the end of it, but until D Day (if it [n]ever happens) you can enjoy yourself :)
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]This IS the Bez lifestyle to a T-ski. :p
(of course, I learned this from every Russian or Ukrainian guy I made friends with)[/QUOTE]
Yeah, dried fish and Baltika are one of life's great joys... although in a pinch sushi and Corona work too.
By the way, cute chick yours.
I didn't see any glammed up clubs in Yalta. I went to one in the main strip which was just dull. Yalta is so strung out and humid buy the time you get anywhere the last thing you want to do is party. Odessa was much more fun.
As long as you're not there to work, humidity is fine.. it adds to the sexually charged atmosphere.
The trouble with Odessa in the Summer is that the girls usually have a serious case of foreigner fatigue by mid July and generally don't want to know us (or is it just me? :))
Yalta is the real deal in terms of pure native Russians on holiday (although Sochi is taking over from what I've heard). One thing about Yalta is that it caters for all social strata, not just the elite, so not all places are glam.
Hi Bizoh.
Any info on the scene i Krasnodar?
Best regards,
Blackbltjones
[QUOTE=Bizoh]Hi,
Planning to visit Kursk this summer for about a week in July. Wondering if I should hire from Moscow an escort for that period? Any thoughts or recommendations on that?
Thinking of a long-term let as on my previous journeys to obsure Russian towns/cities as a non-Russian speaker I have had some experiences but few of them sexual.
Minsk, Belgorod, Astrakhan, Volgograd, Krasnodar and Kharkov have all had some fun but at best striptease joints and when very lucky the odd semi-pro. Tired of this desert of funless Russian nights and want to ensure a supply of success is taken with me. Easier and quicker than learning Russian.
Anyone taken a week's hire sight unseen?
Bizoh[/QUOTE]
Hi Hamburg Willi.
Did you ever find out anything about the scene in Krasnodar?
Best regards
Blackbltjones
[QUOTE=Hamburg Willi]Just back from Kaliningrad here some infos.
The most and easyst way to get some nice girls is to buy the second hand newspapers like "Is Ruk i Ruki" or "Jarmarkt".
they call ot "massage"-service but of couse its beautifull pros.
to me it seems girls much more beautifully than in moscow, i was very suprised. (and moscow girls are realy very nice!)
I searched for a good streapteaseclub but did not find one. Taxidrivers dont know, Hotel doesnt know. So a gave up.
Something like a brothel or so also seems to not avaiable. ( I asked 4 taxi drivers)
With the Tochkas i am a little bit afraid of the real strange number of aids-ill people here in this region (also i have save sex, i am afraid).
Thats its :-)
Tomorrow i will fly for two weeks to Krasnodar, hope to find out more infos for you.
CU,
Wolf[/QUOTE]
hi friends, here are my 2 cents about nizhniy novgorod. one month ago i was there for same days. i had a girlfriend that invite me to visit her native city and hence. why not go there. unfortunately here nobody wrote some info about this city and hence for me it was an adventure. i arrive in the evening of a monday and i stay at central hotel that is not near the centre but. few minutes with the taxi and only 10-15 rubles. the hotel is nice, at the first level there is a large casino, at the second level a good restaurant and after clean and comfortable rooms. the first day i spend the evening with my girlfriend, walking around the city but when she go home to sleep, at about 22. 00 i started to check this nice city. i took a taxi with a young driver that fortunately spoke english (i don’t know any russian word) and he immediately understood what i want and he brought there. first stop at the e-zone that should be a nice restaurant, bar and disco place, but when i saw the empty car parking i was a little worried. in fact inside there were only waiters, i had a look but. change immediately. the second place that i visited was picasso but. i have the same impression: only 10 very young students were dancing and hence went away. the last place was the 5 element but i understood that the nightlife on monday in nizhniy novgorod was pretty dead. hence. i went to a strip club rocco that. the name should be a good program. inside empty, only another customer and me but about 6 very nice girls that started to dance around me and by only 100 rubles tip, they danced, stripped and also naked around me for some seconds. very. exiting. after a while i started to chat with lena, my slender type, and she proposed me to have a private dance for "only" 1000 rubles. i accepted without know what it was. we go in a private room and after a while she danced naked around me, allowing me to touch and kiss her, but not in that "soft and sweet parts". the lap dance was long as 5 minutes and after. my desire to have her was very height. i asked in polite way if she want come back to my hotel. after a smile she accepted but asking 20. 000 rubles. i was very surprise about this "shot" she was very nice, beautiful slender body with 2 fantastic breast and very nice face but smiling and laughing i asked if she come from hollywood city. she was a little surprised about my reaction, and she started to tell me she should pay her boss, the barman and so on. but i am not so stupid, i am a good looking italian man that unfortunately used italian dresses but i am not so rich and more i an not so old flat and stupid to pay that value. after a while she reduce to 15. 000 rubles but. it was too late. in fact after some second i pay the bill and. change to another place. i took another taxi about midnight. i asked at the driver to show me the street worker zone. i found them in a square in the centre but, mamma mia, old flat and ugly, completely different from the stripper girl. the taxi driver told me that only in moscow you can find cute girl on the road and hence. she bring me in a flat near my hotel where. a mamasan show me about 5 girl that were ready to. sleep with me about one hour for only 2000 rubles. i choose natalia, a blond cute girl, about 25 old. good body and the play was nice. the day after i spent all the day time with my girlfriend around the city that it is very close, nice clean and safety. but in the evening at about 22. 00 i was already ready for another trip. unfortunately i had the same result and a waiter in the the 5 element told me that only during the week end the places are full of people. hence. grrrr another trip to another strip club but. i have the same results. frustrating i come buck to my hotel and asked to security if he know a nice place to spend the night. surprisingly he told me: do you want girls? you should go to room 645 at the 6 level. at first i didn’t understand but i want try and surprisingly at that room a mamasan with about 8 girls was waiting customers. i choice olga for one hours and 2000 rubles and i spend a very nice time with her. the day after i had the morning free because my girlfriend had to work at the university, hence i want to tray the vip saloon ([url]www.doug-nn. ru[/url]). without knowing any russian words, i jump on a taxi i call the telephone number of the soloon and i pass my cellular phone to taxi driver. it was fanny because immediately they understood what i want. the woman at the phone explained to taxi driver where bring me and after 10 minutes taxi trip i was on the door of this saloon that is near the main road of the city centre. a very young girl introduced me in a clean flat and bring me in a room. after a second a parade of about 10 girls with very short dressed was introduced to me. it was difficult for me at the end of the parade explain at the young girl who i want but after a smile and many laughing she understood. a very nice mongolian girl very height (about 1. 80 m like me) spend the hour with me and i must tell that it was the best 2000 rubles that i spend there. the day after i left and telling the true without any pain. in conclusion nizhniy novgorod is a good city but very few girls speech english. in that few time that i was alone, i meet many nice girl and many of them spend some time with me but. without knowing the native language. it was very difficult to develop a deep relationship. ciao
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Thank you for your report.
I'd like to know if you think Nizhniy Novgorod could be a good place to spend one month, if someone speaks a little russian? You know what I mean?
Website specialized for finding something around sexe (Dosug) in Nijni Novgorod is [url]www.dosug-nn.ru[/url].
But, one must read/understand russian.......
There are adress for salons and individual (girls), prices start at 1'000 RB/hour (for those who can speak russian) + supplement as for anal.
Compare to MOCKBA, Nijni-Novgorod could be the "paradise" for mongers who are willing to not be at their favorite MARIOTT hotels and ready to go outside of Night-Flight.
In Russia, the more you can go East, you will enjoy the atmosphere we had in MOCKBA fifteen years ago : very nice girls and not pollued by USD or EUR.
Ciao Top,
If you should go there for working and you are looking for a nice short time girlfriend that "sleep" with you after a while, yes I think that NN is a good place, but remember that it is a big city and the people have a modern culture and they are not stupid and the girls understand if you are not. Fall in love of them: ((. If you want have many shots as possible, I suggest to fly in another country, to sud america or asia, it is better, cheaper and you are sure about the results.
Ciao
[quote=andy cap]
here are my nizhniy novgorod adventure.i go with the taxi only 10-15 rubles.
i went to a strip club. the stripper proposed me to come back to my hotel but asking 20. 000 rubles.
in taxi i asked the driver to show me the street worker but old fat and ugly. a mamasan show me a blond girl, about 25 old.
i come to my hotel and asked security. i choice olga for one hours and 2000 rubles.
i jump a taxi to the soloon and a mongolian girl spend the hour with me and it was 2000 rubles.
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i don't think you got taxi for 15 rubles.
20,000 rubles for a stripper is worse than moscow prices.
old ugly street prostitutes. a 25 year old prostitute from a mamachka.
so far, can't see why anyone would want any of this over any other destination.
another 2000 rubles an hour pro named olga from hotel security, and a 2000 ruble per hour mongolian saloon pro, that's the total of the rest of your mongering in the city.
i'm really not trying to bust your sack or downplay how you did, at the least its a workable beginning, but without even one little peek-a-boo of any of the talent at spots you found, we're left with a tough call.
mongers need more than just imagining your nizhny russians in action, because there's too many other good cities out there with better promise than your descriptions, from rostov and volgograd girls, up to samara and kazan dyevs.
how can ya call nizh a 'mongers paradise' from one single website? remember this is russia, prostitutki sites are only posted for the purpose of seperating you from your money, so.......
and, if you compare the "dosug" internet listings, (translates to the word 'leisure', ie., what horny guys do with spare time), the moscow and st pitr dosug sites have about 500 to 1000 times as many females in the popular 18-21 years old category, than nizhny.
Has anyone been to Kayzon in Russia.
Where can I pick up girls, I'm going in September 2007.
I'll be in Lazarevskaya, Sochi, in a few weeks. I'd very much appreciate some advice on where to go to find a nice simple girl for a good time.
I will be posted to Odessa Ukraine very soon. Appreciate if someone could share the following info:
1. Night life scenes and charges
2. Security situation
3. Cost of living in general
[QUOTE=Kenny2003]I will be posted to Odessa Ukraine very soon. Appreciate if someone could share the following info:
1. Night life scenes and charges
2. Security situation
3. Cost of living in general[/QUOTE]
Why you ask here and not in the UKR forum ? :)
I will be posted soon to Yuzno, Sakhalin Iland. Can you share your information of sex guide for this city and other areas in the Island.
Thanks in advance
I will be posted soon to Yuzno, Sakhlain Island.
Can anyone share the info. about night life and sex guide for Yuzno and other parts of the island
Thanks
Stayed in Saratov recently for 2 nights. Hotel Slovakia, right on the Volga river. The small bar is full of girls, they also hang out in the lobby. The quality is from 5-7, but most girls are under 25. Going rate 1500rub/hour. I picked one hot law student - Vera, 19. Unfortunatelly, she was as exciting as a wood. She already has a 5 yr old daughter, and I guess it's hard to study law, raise a daughter and fuck all night long. The other girls are not pushy at all, unlike some Moscow hotels. Second night I asked for a line-up. A dozen girls were brought up to my room by mamochka. It was quite a show. The guys from rooms next doors got out to take a look too. It was funny. I picked Vera again, just because I liked her body. I thought she would warm up to me the 2nd night, but it didn't happen. My mistake. She's a tough pro, even though she's only 19.
Went out to the center of the city - plenty of lonely girls walking around. Easy catch if you speak Russian. We just didn't have much time.
Kosmos
[QUOTE=Kosmos]
I asked for a line-up by mamochka.
[/QUOTE]
How did you find the mamachka?
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]How did you find the mamachka?[/QUOTE]
I asked the working girls at the bar (3-4) for a line-up. They told me to go back to my room. 15min later mamochka nocked on my door. She had about a dozen girls behind her. I paid her, and she called the girls exactly 1hr later. I was later told that you can have higher quality girls in saunas for much cheaper. I also noticed that there are some Saratov girls on dosug.nu.
Kosmos
Have been traveling to Ufa many times during this year. The scene for girls is quite good, but of course basic knowledge of Russian is often needed.
When talking about freebies, the girls who speak English are normally more "difficult" to lure. However, the meaning of "difficult" is quite different in regional cities compared to Moscow.
The scene for prostitutes is quite good also. But again, without the basic knowledge of Russian one might have some difficulties in finding them. Of course the bigger hotels have girls in their lobby bars, but these girls are not too beautiful and over-priced. The local newspapers have loads of ads for girls and saunas. The prices range for these girls range from 800-1500 RBL/hour. The quality varies quite much, but you can also find real diamonds among these girls.
Then there are a couple of striptease clubs too. These clubs have rooms where you can take the girls. The prices are 2500RBL/hour and the quality of the girls is normally quite high. However, normally none of them speak English but then again I think you dont need too many words in places like this to have a good time.
Further info I can give you in PM.
Anybody out there in ISG-land been to Kaliningrad recently?
I'll be staying at Hotel Kaliningrad and wondering what the pro situation is like in that hotel. Am looking for lobby/bar girls since I'll be on business and won't have much opportunity to carouse.
Any info on location, price and service level?
Hey.
My former perevoichik from 2006, who moved to the big city for a better job this year, and hooked me up with his mom, yes his mom, for all my necessary stuff this year, (someone trustworthy to pick me up at the train station, and a new apartment agent, etc.), is now asking me to invite him to the US.
Here's the catch. He wants me to write him an invite letter that he will give to his american consualte to get a visa, and he wants me to write in the letter that I will guarrantee that I will be 100% resposnsible for all his expenses, and that I will guarrnatee that he will return to russia after his 3 week visit. He's also asking for a complete copy of my passport with all my old visas, etc., and another invite letter on my business's letterhead to make everything look more official, like my work details, that I'm a big shot in business, etc.
I need to mention also that he had a visa before, as a student, so he has been here to the US once, a few years ago. So this will be his first try to return, and to get a visa as a non-student or non-family visitor, with a "friend" inviting him. I think this is the problem, really. If I was his family, it would be very different. But just as a friend, I don't see how this would work.
Now how the heck can I promise that? Especially if he doesn't even come here to the city where I live? Sure I could make some promises, IF he was part of my family, but he isn't. He's only my former translator, and I still need either his help or his mom's help whem I go back there in 2008, so I don't want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] him off, but what if I write all these guarantees, and he comes here and ends up staying?
Could I get into any problems myself? Like when I have to apply for another toursit visa next year to go back to russia, could they turn me down because Sasha fucked me up on his visit here?
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Hey.
My former perevoichik from 2006, who moved to the big city for a better job this year, and hooked me up with his mom, yes his mom, for all my necessary stuff this year, (someone trustworthy to pick me up at the train station, and a new apartment agent, etc.), is now asking me to invite him to the US.
Here's the catch. He wants me to write him an invite letter that he will give to his american consualte to get a visa, and he wants me to write in the letter that I will guarrantee that I will be 100% resposnsible for all his expenses, and that I will guarrnatee that he will return to russia after his 3 week visit. He's also asking for a complete copy of my passport with all my old visas, etc., and another invite letter on my business's letterhead to make everything look more official, like my work details, that I'm a big shot in business, etc.
I need to mention also that he had a visa before, as a student, so he has been here to the US once, a few years ago. So this will be his first try to return, and to get a visa as a non-student or non-family visitor, with a "friend" inviting him. I think this is the problem, really. If I was his family, it would be very different. But just as a friend, I don't see how this would work.
Now how the heck can I promise that? Especially if he doesn't even come here to the city where I live? Sure I could make some promises, IF he was part of my family, but he isn't. He's only my former translator, and I still need either his help or his mom's help whem I go back there in 2008, so I don't want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] him off, but what if I write all these guarantees, and he comes here and ends up staying?
Could I get into any problems myself? Like when I have to apply for another toursit visa next year to go back to russia, could they turn me down because Sasha fucked me up on his visit here?[/QUOTE]
I've invited a few people before (chicks) and in my experience you have to either:
1) invite them as a business partner
2) invite them as a friend
Either way, you have to assume responsibility for whatever shit they do. It is a risk, sure.
Worst case scenario he bolts and is never seen again or is in some kind of legal or health trouble.
Tough call, especially if you are not going to have direct control over him.
I have no experience (knock on wood) of what happens when the shit hits the fan, but do assume that the "take responsibility" part is fo' real. You can probably ask the consulate what the real consequences are if something goes wrong. I'd at least make sure he had health insurance valid in the US and a return flight ticket, enough cash etc.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I've invited a few people before (chicks) and in my experience you have to either:
1) invite them as a business partner
2) invite them as a friend
Either way, you have to assume responsibility for whatever shit they do. It is a risk, sure.
Worst case scenario he bolts and is never seen again or is in some kind of legal or health trouble.
Tough call, especially if you are not going to have direct control over him.
You can ask the consulate the consequences if something goes wrong. I'd at least make sure he had health insurance valid in the US and a return flight ticket, enough cash etc.[/QUOTE]
That's what I'm trying to say. I can see already that his intention is that I will have ABSOLUTELY no control over ANYTHING that he will be doing, including not even seeing him or knowing where he is or when.
Who would agree to that, and why would anyone agree to that? I'm sure when I ask him about that, he'll say, oh don't worry, bla bla bla, but then knowing russians and how they say anything to get what they want, when he actually does come, he'll never do what he agreed to. I aslo believe that the whole reason why he wants to come is to stay and work, since he can't make any good money over there.
Bez,
My advice is to stay away from this nightmare scenario. The boy will bolt and wants to either work here or just plain stay.
Either way, the Feds can come down hard on you for visa fraud and other lovely charges, including those under RICO and illegal smuggling. It is one thing if you are trying to bring in a close relative or even a close friend where you do know them or may be able to control them to even a small extent. But with complete strangers, just stay away.
Besides, it is easier for the Feds to make examples of small or medium sized business people than the giants. Such cases are cheaper and easier. Why risk far too much for someone you really don't know.
Besides, if you want to take the risk, think and act like a real Russian. Ask him for $50,000, at a minimum, but the more the better. That's how they would and do do it! And besides, it will help defray some legal expenses for you!!
Bez
Not impossible for him to get a visa on his own. An American in Piter gave me good advice on how to get thru the visa process.
As long as your boy can show gainful employment in Russia, the ability to pay his way, part ownership in a flat or even better a child, he stands a good chance of getting a visa.
Brought a RU girl to California a couple of years back and these were the requirements used to qualify her for entry.
Still in the interview the American consulate did attempt to trick her with questions.
Absolutely critical the applicant say they know no one in the USA and have a good reason for travel and will stay at a hotel.
My Devs reason was “She always wanted to see Hollywood”
The others concerns are spot on for potential problems. You do not want responsibility for anyone entering plus saying he has friends will probably disqualify him immediately.
Good luck
Guido88
Sorry if I wasn't clear.
No Sasha isn't related or a close friend. He's also NOT a complete stranger, he was my translator in 2006, and his mom helped me with ALL of my specifics this year. Without her help, I would've had to make all arrangements on my own, which for certain things would have been extremely hard if not impossible. So I owe the guy. Also, I will need her help again in 2008, so I don't think its to my own benefit to turn Sasha's request down cold. I will need to explain to him the reasons why I can't do what he wants.
Asking him to pay me ANY money is silly, he ain't got it.
He can't get a visa on his own, that's why he's asking me to invite him.
Sure he has a job there, but its small change. Not enough to qualify his certain return. He doesn't own shit. He's only 22. He rents a room in a flat.
I have no clue what he plans to say in his interview, but I'm sure it will all be bullshit. If he doesn't say that I invite him as his friend, then who is he going to say that I am? I also don't know how he'll be able to show that he can pay his own way. He's not a bum or a beggar, but he's not Trump either. That's why he wanted me to guarrantee that I'll be responsible for all his expenses. Fuck that shit.
Bez
Guaranteeing to pay for all expanses sounds an awful lot like marriage. Brings back painful memories.
If he gets creative and full of bullshit why not try the student visa direction. Even if its only 6-12 months he can establish he is reliable with the US Gov and have a better shot at another longer-term visa.
Plus he would have the chance to romance the many dimwitted American women that oh so love foreign men. He might get lucky and get to educate some lucky housewife on the Russian man’s guide to marriage. LOL…….
Guido88
" I will guarrantee that I will be 100% resposnsible for all his expenses, and that I will guarrnatee that he will return to russia after his 3 week visit."
Pretty clear isn't it?
You are personally responsible and will pay 100% of ANY medical/Hospital bills that your friend incurs during his visit, if he is unfortunate enough to get sick or have an accident. You will be personally responsible to pay any court, damage or legal costs that he might incur. You will be personally responsible for the costs of finding him and deporting him - yes the airplane and court costs - should he decide the other than the girls, the good old USA looks better than bumfuck SSR. Shoplifting - I guess you have got the idea by now.
None of the above may happen and he has a great holiday - but if any of them do you will be paying and the girls in the otherland will really miss Bez's trips for the next several years while he recovers.
Your call Bezer.
A girl I met online, is wanting to fly in from Russia to see me.
What do you guys think of this?
I've heard of the opposite situation, but never a girl coming from Russia to meet a man she's never even seen before except in pictures!
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Anybody out there in ISG-land been to Kaliningrad recently?
I'll be staying at Hotel Kaliningrad and wondering what the pro situation is like in that hotel. Am looking for lobby/bar girls since I'll be on business and won't have much opportunity to carouse.
Any info on location, price and service level?[/QUOTE]
Please give us a report of your trip. I only get trips to China but I have read about Kaliningrad and it seems like you may have intersting trip
Do mean Kazan?
Hotel bar, Baumann str, night clubs... You can pick up nice babes anywhere or better get a russian speaking friend to hook you up.
[url]http://dosug.nu/servlet/ru/stickers?id_country=50&id_city=2732&id_part=72[/url]
[QUOTE=The Drifter]Has anyone been to Kayzon in Russia.
Where can I pick up girls, I'm going in September 2007.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jay K]A girl I met online, is wanting to fly in from Russia to see me.
What do you guys think of this?
I've heard of the opposite situation, but never a girl coming from Russia to meet a man she's never even seen before except in pictures![/QUOTE]
It means she wants you to send her money for a "passport" and for a "visa", then later wire some money to a "travel company" for her ticket.
$2,000 later you will have to wank off to late-night TV because you will not be able to afford to travel to where the real girls are...
Does anyone have any idea on the scene in Vladivostok ( Far East Russia)
I believe scene is very good there. However, I will like to know, if anyone has had personal experience there.
thanks
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]It means she wants you to send her money for a "passport" and for a "visa", then later wire some money to a "travel company" for her ticket.
$2,000 later you will have to wank off to late-night TV because you will not be able to afford to travel to where the real girls are...[/QUOTE]Seconded. Drink at the source.
Can anybody recommend a good *****-equipped hotel in Ekaterinburg? It'll be purely business on this trip so I'm looking for any easy option to get a drunken 1am cock suck and hole poke.
Thoughts?
Look my girlfriend in Petrozavodsk, she is only 18. She said me in Petrozavodsk injune she was 19 but last mounth I was in Moldova (Kichinev and Soroca) with her and her mother told me she is only 18. She studies in university of Petrozavodsk in pharmacologist but she lives with her mother in Drevlanka. I am sure IT will like her very much I fuck her mother.
I just found out I am likely going to Tyumen for a week in December. Anyone have any experience with the place?
ISN'T THIS THE SAME SCAM HE TRIED PULLING LAST MONTH?
Shouldn't you be pulling on something else, if ya can find it?
Will be in Krasnaya Polyana mid January '08.Does anyone have any tips for a lonely Aussie?
Hi,
Anyone knows of any good ones in Murmansk exept from the bar at Polarniye Zory. Any phonenumbers?
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Can anybody recommend a good *****-equipped hotel in Ekaterinburg? It'll be purely business on this trip so I'm looking for any easy option to get a drunken 1am cock suck and hole poke.
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
DS - I've been there twice. Stayed at "Alexandrovskiy Park Hotel" 3 stars, not in the center.as recently as early November. Only 20 rooms, very small, but quiet. Just come up to the reception and tell them that you want a girl - they speak English. 5min later you will receive a phone call from a "mamochka" asking what kind of girls do you want. Last time I've got a 19yr gem - she rocked my world. $100/hr is pricey, but was worth it.
For street action just catch a cab. Or better yet, stay down-town, there are 2 4-start hotels, I was told that they have lots of action in the bar and nearby on the streets.
Kosmos
[QUOTE=Kosmos]DS - I've been there twice. Stayed at "Alexandrovskiy Park Hotel" 3 stars, not in the center.as recently as early November. Only 20 rooms, very small, but quiet. Just come up to the reception and tell them that you want a girl - they speak English. 5min later you will receive a phone call from a "mamochka" asking what kind of girls do you want. Last time I've got a 19yr gem - she rocked my world. $100/hr is pricey, but was worth it.
For street action just catch a cab. Or better yet, stay down-town, there are 2 4-start hotels, I was told that they have lots of action in the bar and nearby on the streets.
Kosmos[/QUOTE]
Hey thanks bro, I'll be staying at "tsentralnaya hotel" right downtown. I'm hoping there is in house action as I'll most probably be saddled with business partners til midnight every night and will be looking for an easy fix.
Any one knows about Astrakhan.
Thanks for help
I am planning to visit Tver (on the Volga--about 3-4 hours bus ride from Moscow) to attend a wedding next summer. Does anyone have any experience with this city?
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Hey thanks bro, I'll be staying at "tsentralnaya hotel" right downtown. I'm hoping there is in house action as I'll most probably be saddled with business partners til midnight every night and will be looking for an easy fix.[/QUOTE]
Hey friends, my stay at Hotel Tsentralnaya was enjoyable, but there is NO in house action at this hotel. The lobby bar was just as dead as the in-house casino. In fact in my two nights there I didn't score, I only went out once after business and my freebie efforts failed to produce more than a kiss. By that time I had lost interest in any action at all, the -15°C temperatures discouraging too many late night strolls. Damn.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Hey friends, my stay at Hotel Tsentralnaya was enjoyable, but there is NO in house action at this hotel. Damn.[/QUOTE]
I should have given you the # of the agency that brought the girl to my room. PM me if you need it.
Kosmos
[QUOTE=Kosmos]I should have given you the # of the agency that brought the girl to my room. PM me if you need it.
Kosmos[/QUOTE]
Send me the PM, thanks! Won't be back to Ekat for 2-3 months, but I am sure it will come in handy. No worries about the last trip though, I made up for lost time in St.Petersburg... :)
What is the cheapest city in Russia for p4p?
Regardless of distance or language issues.
[QUOTE=Valuedisc]I am planning to visit Tver (on the Volga--about 3-4 hours bus ride from Moscow) to attend a wedding next summer. Does anyone have any experience with this city?[/QUOTE]I was in Tver in 2006 and p4p there cost about 800 roubles per hour. I had a 25-or-so dancer from one of the local clubs. I found her escort agency through one of the local classified weeklies that are sold in the kiosks. It is there that one may also find apartments for rent, although it was difficult when I was there because of the rock concert being held that week nearby in Tverskaya Oblast.
I remember asking her if we could be friends and the way that she laughed. What a total *****. When I rang the agency, they were able to bring four girls after 8pm. The one I saw was a 7 or an 8 and the rest weren't as attractive but by no means ugly. Tver itself is a very easy city to get to from Moscow. The main part of the city is to the south of the Volga river, with the railway station located further south. There is an Old-Arbat-style pedestrian street in the centre that is quite pleasant and a shopping mall with a decent supermarket and electronics store. Moscow, which is 2 hours away by train, skims the cream from the top of the p4p scene. However Tver is much less expensive than Moscow and more quaint than other ring cities such as Ryazan. Y
Logger and I were in Saratov mongering over the last several days, although I went for a rather bizarre GFE with a 22-year old former model and border guard who keeps half-a-dozen or so pet rats.
We showed up on a Saturday and for some reason ignored the ads for a flat in favour of Hotel Volga on Kirova Prospekt, the city's main drag. There's an internet cafe between the hotel and the next street to the south on the left side of the street as you're walking south, but it's difficult to find because it's through an archway. The cheapest escort service on dosug. Nu was Intim-Salon Rosi: outcall 800, incall 1000. The girls showed up across the street and their pimp called us. There was a butt-ugly 26 year old (who could have passed for 40. Saw her passport), a blonde 22yo Chuvash that would have been a 7 if she didn't have a cold sore, and a dark officer-she-said-she-was 18 year old Tatar.
I wanted the young one but got stuck with the blonde when Brian realised her hair was bleached. This, in the end, would ruin my trip there and make his one of his best *****mongering experiences ever. The guards were on brake so we took the girls back to our room (guests are allowed until 11 if they have their passports/registrations, which girls never seem to).
Every inch of the Tatarka's body was perfect, causing my friend to shoot his load within a minute or two of penetrating her. She had beautiful firm round natural breasts. Mine would have been alright except I didn't want to come into contact with her cold sores. She'd been supplied with a low-quality condom, which broke halfway through.compelling us to rush to the bathroom and wash our would-be progeny from our respective members. I made a condom run, only to find that the only available condoms were the same cheapo variety. I'd never had one break in my life, although she wants to name the kid Brad Pitt.
In any case, the Tatarka waited for my return to smoke a cigarette, which incensed Logger enough to take it off halfway though and come inside her. He knew she was a newbie from the way she behaved and figured she'd believed the condom really broke. A subsequent conversation with the blonde revealed this to be the case. It was her first day as a prostitute. I've had sex with perhaps about 40 prostitutes in my life and I doubt I've had a first day. Certainly not one around 18. Later on that evening, the doorman asked us if we needed sex. The cost at the hotel is about 1500 roubles (about 62 bucks).
We got the girls' numbers and attempted a call the following day. Anya, the blonde, offered to help me find a flat. In the end she invited me to stay with her and her roommate in a decrepit 1-room flat for 800 roubles per night. Brian proceeded to Hotel Slovakia, which is situated on the river and costs maybe 2000 for one of their cheapest rooms. *****s there cost 1500. I was trying to steer clear of the pimp on the subsequent night and stayed at Hotel Slovakia. I had an 8 there who seemed considerably more intelligent than Anya (I really wanted the Tatarka, but Anya wouldn't have it). She said she'd graduated with a financial degree but that nobody was hiring. She was a bit more chilly. She wouldn't hand me her phone number. The next day I had sex with Anya and in the process got to meet her friends. One looks like a boy and the other was in the lineup and looks like the death mask of Elmer Fudd.
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Too bad you both couldn't be bothered with fotos, (seems like we've discussed this before?), as you had such a rare opportunity to document/share a destination that no one has previously shown us. In such a place, you would find some dyevs that absolutely would not allow ANY fotos, and just as likely to find some that WOULD allow hard core porn even bukake. For example, the Tatarka, being so inexperienced, is the type that could be up for anything, meaning that if you had only took the most minimal time and effort to shoot her, we could all benefit from your good fortune.
But alas, you have made your excuses before, as I recall now, that you have no interest in photography.
Its a shame, explorers such as yourself and Brian on the edge could open up the provinces to those much less inclined for adventures with a little more effort.
And its also too bad that you don't need to take this one criticism as an insult, its not, ok. Don't over-blow this into more than it is, its just one monger's comment, nothing more. For what its worth.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Too bad you both couldn't be bothered with fotos, (seems like we've discussed this before?), as you had such a rare opportunity to document/share a destination that no one has previously shown us. In such a place, you would find some dyevs that absolutely would not allow ANY fotos, and just as likely to find some that WOULD allow hard core porn even bukake. For example, the Tatarka, being so inexperienced, is the type that could be up for anything, meaning that if you had only took the most minimal time and effort to shoot her, we could all benefit from your good fortune.
But alas, you have made your excuses before, as I recall now, that you have no interest in photography...[/QUOTE]1. I did take pics and movies.
2. Windows Vista and Nokia don't seem to like each other so I need to re-install XP.
3. I have the flu and can't be bothered to set stuff up.
While you're making demands, please suggest a place where I can stash a small video clip of the Tatarka brushing her hair and singing along with Russian pop music - it's super cute. There's also a more disturbing one of Anya kissing some caged rats.
Blaked
[QUOTE=Blaked]
I need to a place where I can stash a video clip of the Tatarka - it's cute.
There's one of Anya kissing rats.
[/QUOTE]
Get well soon from all your bratoks at ISG, ya lazy bastard.
[QUOTE=Blaked]1. I did take pics and movies.
2. Windows Vista and Nokia don't seem to like each other so I need to re-install XP.
3. I have the flu and can't be bothered to set stuff up.
While you're making demands, please suggest a place where I can stash a small video clip of the Tatarka brushing her hair and singing along with Russian pop music - it's super cute. There's also a more disturbing one of Anya kissing some caged rats.
Blaked[/QUOTE]What a time we had. (like so many times in the past) I got my sorry ass out of that place, when I told you I don't think she is 18 years old. Turns out Anya told the truth she was 16. Anyways had more fun fucking the 28 year old billet collector on the train from Saransk to Moscow. Who am I to turn down a freebie. Especially a 6 footer like her. WOW. I quickly forgot about the 16 year old tartar. Blake we have been buddies for 4 years now. Thats the only reason Daddy War bucks comes to Moscow, not so much for the pussy, but we have FUN seeing ALL of Russia and going places in Russia together (Villages towns in the provinces) that no body would dream to go. Free or P4P it doesnt matter to me. Its the HUNT that is the thrill. As you know theres NEVER a dull moment with ME, I am straight forward and of COURSE muscles DO HELP as you have noticed. Siberia is a calling for us don't you think?
[QUOTE=Blaked]
While you're making demands, please suggest a place where I can stash a small video clip of the Tatarka brushing her hair and singing along with Russian pop music - it's super cute. There's also a more disturbing one of Anya kissing some caged rats.
[/QUOTE]
Some of the best videos and pics are when the girls are just screwing around being girls.
Really some of the best memories are just hanging out, drinking beer or whisky laughing and being stupid.
Rock on.
[QUOTE=Brian Moloney] Anyways had more fun fucking the 28 year old billet collector on the train from Saransk to Moscow. Who am I to turn down a freebie. Especially a 6 footer like her. WOW. [/QUOTE]
Super cool. The billet collector. I always wanted to do that. Or fuck the hot dog girl on Pushkin square. Right on bro!
I did score one really good one last December though, a big-titted captain in the militia... nice... :)
In 2001, I did fuck the hot doggie girl, from the park.
My old mamachka Lana found her for me in the park. I think she found most of the ones she hooked me up with from talking to girls that hung around there, since it was just a couple blocks from my flat.
I kept thinking I'd seen her somewhere, but I wasn't sure, and she couldn't speak any english. After sleeping with her, we made some small talk, and when I asked her about her regular work, she told me, "ya rabota park, hot doggy!!"
She told me from selling hot dogs all day long, she only earns about $5, so she was thrilled with the $25 I gave her for a little afternoon session on her day off. She really needed money to buy her baby clothes. She wasn't any good in the sack, and her body was wrecked from childbirth, but she had a beautiful face, almost model quality, apart from a couple flaws. But the kind of eyes you just get lost in during sex.
Anyone here have any experience with Kazan in Tartarstan. I met one girl in Ukraine who was there on studies. Very good time with her, open to just about anything. I' planning on visiting her in spring when she is going home out of school. Also any info on hotels would be appreciated
[QUOTE=Captain Fire]Anyone here have any experience with Kazan in Tartarstan. I met one girl in Ukraine who was there on studies. Very good time with her, open to just about anything. I' planning on visiting her in spring when she is going home out of school. Also any info on hotels would be appreciated[/QUOTE]Kazan is a beautiful city in Tatarstan which was renovated a few years ago. I spent a weekend there last summer while I was traveling the Trans Siberian railway. Women are gorgeous as there is a mix between Russians and Tatars (moslims). Absolute stunners varying from blonds to brunettes. All in all this was one of my favorite stops in Russia. I didn't try any p4p but quite easy to pull non pros as well.
A great and dirt cheap hotel is located at a stones throw from the Kremlin.
If you have the chance give it a go as it's a stunning place.
Sorry for straying off the topic. But has anyone figured out how to use the advanced search engine on mamba. Ru or lovemail. Ru? That function allows you to search by the type of date you're looking for and is especially helpful to mongers off the beaten track where advertising is poor. Clearly, the sites require you to buy "webmoney" which only seems to be available in Russia or Ukraine but not on the Internet. Would anyone know how to get "webmoney" online or any way to use credit card? I've even bought webmoney in Ukraine but, stupidly, was unable to credit my account with mamba. Ru. Any advice is welcome.
WN,
Not sure what "type of date" means. I guess you're looking for a certain height, weight, who likes to go for long walks, dancing at the nochni klub and sex 3 or 4 times a day. So, in order to make that kind of search , you need the detailed search (Расширенный ), which, as you have discovered, requires credit. Instead of buying WebMoney, you probably should be buying Деньги@Mail.ru, if that's where you need the credit. Mamba.ru and love.mail.ru run off the same server, just different front ends, so I imagine credit with one is good for the other.
If what you want to do is search for girls in other parts of Eastern Europe, then the general search will work (Общий ). This is free and will allow you to specify other countries/cities in your search. When you specify the city, select "choose different city" (выбрат другой город ) and you will be directed to another page where you can specify the country, region and city for your search. If you can't read Cyrillic, then this may be a little daunting. You can even specify the U.S. as your search country (США ). There are a lot of Russki dyeffki here in the U.S. who advertise on these sites, but be careful, they become Americanized very quickly. Best to hunt them in their natural habitat.
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I barely see any report about Vladivostok.
Here are some nice photos! Enjoy!
Xavier,
I like your girlfriend, looks like she could keep a guy warm on those cold vostochnii nochii. You should post these in the Photo Gallery section, so they don't get buried here in the hinterlands.
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I am about to visit Krasnodar for the second time after a boring time there in January - does somebody come up with good advise for this city, please?
[QUOTE=Wallyally] after a boring time in Krasnodar in January [/QUOTE]
Wally
Could you elaborate ?
I am pondering about spending a whole month there in August.
Anyone knows BTW if there's in this area some beach towns, cheaper than Sochi, where young russians go during summertime to party their asses off ?
[QUOTE=Prosal]
Anyone knows BTW if there's in this area some beach towns, cheaper than Sochi, where young russians go during summer?
[/QUOTE]
On either side of Sochi are Adler and Dagomys, and halfway up the coast to Novorossiysk is Tuapse, but none of them have the crowds that Sochi has. There are plenty of young people in Sochi.
It is the capital of the Republic of Karelia in Russia, to go there it is enough to take the Saint-Petersburg plane then the train at the Ladozhky railway rand new station. A town of average size of approximately 300000 inhabitants in majority of the blondes with the blue eyes very clear and especially the prices are much less expensive than in Piter. It is enough to go to the Afrika sauna which does not have of Africa that the name so much the girls proposed are superb. To start I took Lyudmila which is 26 years old for 6300 roubles the night for more than 7 hours with COB, CBJ and what makes the charm of the average cities they are that the girls make the deep throat, Luda works with 4 other girls.
Rate: 7.5
To continue I was invited Saturday evening and I had my first sexual intercourse not tariffed at the 29 years age with Elena which is being the mother of Katerina 19 years that I wish to marry because they speak French. Bad BBBJ + bareback proposed I refused + very good DFK
Rate: 6
Not only one can easily have not-pros in this city I left with girls approximately 21 years every sleepless night but in more there are girls who pay to have sexual intercourse with foreigners. To finish, I negotiated Natasha with 7000 roubles the night it did not remain that 5 hours being tired by the fact of having 11 customers in this same day the act is 15 times. COB, CBJ and deep throat with DFK this 21 year old girl is coed and I crossed it the following day at the exit of the university with one of his comrade as if I did not exist whereas it left me her personal number precisely so that I pass the evening with. It works for Alexander a golgoth which is owner of the agency Karmen he claimed me 12000 roubles before raviser to propose the following tariffs is 1 hour with 1200 roubles, 2 hours for 2400 roubles and an hour in the car with only 800 roubles to make heat Natasha.
Rate: 8
Hi guys,
Will be travelling to Sochi in due course. Have been searching both the net and this site, but didn't find much info.
Is anyone familiar with the city and willing to share tips/contacts?
Thanks a lot for your kind cooperation.
[QUOTE=Rolling Stone II]Hi guys,
Will be travelling to Sochi in due course. Have been searching both the net and this site, but didn't find much info.
Is anyone familiar with the city and willing to share tips/contacts?
Thanks a lot for your kind cooperation.[/QUOTE]
Sochi is blooming now with the influx of tourists from all over Russia as well as Europe. The hotels and private houses would be full of guests, restuarants busy all day long. You need to count more roubles for everything you want to do in Sochi now and for next few months.
As far as mongering, both paid and non-paid services are available. If you are staying at 5 stars, check out the restaurant, bars and discos, and if you are lucky you may score a non-paid service. For this is time consuming and has no guarantee though. With money you can also buy services from these places easily. If you are not happy with the menu, talk to any bellboys and room services, they will provide you with lots of information.
Checkoout local newspapers. There are pages called dosug (leisure), you will find lot of contacts out there. Quality varies and you need to spend some time to score good ones. But there are are dosug services who have really good girls in their pick.
If you are planning to stay in budget hotels, my advice to you to stay closer to "vakzal" (railway station). There are many budget hotels in and around that place (dom journal, to name one, which means journalist hotel). Girls at a cheaper price are available at vakzal through mamasan. In vakzal you will find many mamasan and you can talk and bargain with them regarding quality and price. Again, the score is doubtful.
In the evening hours in most of the hotels (except for the top class) you will find small cards (of the size of visiting cards) that says that if you need girls for sex, call certain numbers. You can call them, tell your preference and bargain prices. When things are set, girls will be brought at the hotel gate, you can meet them, talk to them and if you like you can take them to your room.
This is what all I have for you in Sochi. Please do inform us regarding your experience in there.
T.F.E
UFA
I spent two nights in Ufa, the capital city of the Independent Republic of Bashkortostan. Well, not really two nights because my flight arrived a 2 AM and I didn’t get to the hotel until 3 AM. But I did go straight to the bar at the Hotel Bashkortostan where the girls were just winding things down for the night. As first glance I was pretty impressed with the quality of the girls. Ufa is about 800 miles due east of Moscow. It’s more or less on the west slope of the Ural mountains and two hours ahead of Moscow. Ufa lies on the banks of the White River which eventually flows into the Caspian. This year, Bashkortostan is celebrating their 400th anniversary of being part of Russia. Ufa was made a significant city because during WW2, Stalin moved much of the USSR’s manufacturing to Ufa because it was out the range of Hitler’s bombers. There are about 1.2 million people living in Ufa so it’s a city of some substance.
OK, so much for the National Geographic tour. The girls in Ufa are something to behold. While the girls in Moscow and Peiter are nothing too shabby, the ones in Ufa seem to be the result of several generations of mixing between the indigenous Bashkirs, the regional Tatars and the ethnic Russians themselves. The product is a sea of rosy cheeked babes with a very nice way about them all in a nice range of flesh tones.
I had lunch one day in a Bashkir restaurant one day and could not believe how gorgeous the waitresses were. I wanted to meet the owner and congratulate him on the beauty of his staff. One waitress in particular was so stunning that I could NOT take my eyes off of her. If I had had more time, I would certainly have taken a run at her (note to self).
I was fortunate enough to have a business colleague who lives in Ufa and was able to give me the grand tour of nightlife in Ufa. We started with dinner at a nice Sushi place that was crawling with tables of very well dressed beautiful girls eating Sushi and chatting away. Not too bad for a Monday night. We were dressed in business attire so we were the target of their glances and I am certain that with a little work there would have been a score. Again, the striking thing in Ufa was the look of the women. Absolutely exotic. You could clearly see the influence of the Tatars on the chiseled facial features of these little lovelies. Well dressed with perfect hair and make-up. Not an eyelash out of place.
There are three dance clubs in Ufa worth mentioning. “A” Café, Prospect, and Jet. It's worth mentioning that Face Control is alive and well in Ufa so if you are at all "Caucasian" looking or darker (sorry brothers) you can expect to get hassled. Prospect seemed to be the worst for FC. All three are supposed to be crawling with amateurs looking for fun on weekends. While it was only Monday night, there was a reasonable crowd by 11:00 PM in all three places. I did not really see any “working girls” like you might see at the Boarhouse (now Hot Dog) or Night Flight. Most seemed to be there to dance and have fun. But I was assured that there was a good chance of not going home alone. Unfortunately, being Monday night and having an early meeting on Tuesday, I didn’t feel like there was all that much to choose from and decided that I need to get back to the hotel for a sure thing.
Back at the hotel, it was touching midnight and there was a good selection of girls working the bar. I settled on a redheaded spinner named Gullia and negotiated for a few minutes. She initially wanted 8000 rubles until I reminded her that this was Ufa, not Moscow and that this was not Night Flight. Her face turned as red as her hair and she slinked away to consider things. When I came back to the table from the men’s room there was a look of relief on her face because she must have thought I was bailing out for the night. She came over and whispered 5000 in my ear and I countered with 4000 to which she nodded and asked my room number. 10 minutes later there was a knock at the door.
After a quick currency conversion, I realized that I was probably over-paying for Ufa and quizzed her about the price. Guillia told me that 4,000 rubles has been about normal for Ufa and has been for several years. She seemed to be oblivious to the conversion rate and the plight of the dollar. Had this been three years earlier and the dollar been worth 33 rubles, I realized it would have been a $120 dollar which is what I would have expected for the locale and the girl. Still, I had no complaints.
SUMMARY
While it was a very, very, short trip I got a very favorable impression of Ufa. Nice people and a reasonably sophisticated nightlife scene for a city so far away from Moscow. I doubt that anyone can justify a mongering trip to Ufa, but if you ever find yourself faced with a business trip to Ufa, have no fear.
Jake,
Great report.
Glad to see some info on the Siberian provinces.
With Moscow and Piter so overpriced my next trip will be to Siberia.
Guido88
[QUOTE=Guido88]Jake,
Great report.
Glad to see some info on the Siberian provinces.
With Moscow and Piter so overpriced my next trip will be to Siberia.
Guido88[/QUOTE]
Ufa isn't in Siberia, it's in the Urals.
I have also made the mistake of thinking everything east of the Urals is Siberia, but Siberia doesn't actually begin until Yekaterinburg... actually just after Yekaterinburg. My innocent question almost started a fight between two Russian colleagues once while eating dinner in Yekaterinburg... the one insisited Yekaterinburg was the "gate to Siberia", while the other insisted Siberia began just outside of the city. They couldn't agree so we just drank vodka instead, which actually did come from Siberia.... :)
Hey Doc,
I stand corrected. Siberia is so damn big it’s easy to not be clear on boundaries.
Been wanting to hit several cities in the area from Ekat to Irtusk for a while. I think to do it right I will need at least a month.
Nice thing is now Aeroflot is a member of NWA alliance, which has opened up the country to cheaper travel with air miles from the states. 60k miles to anywhere in the country.
Guido88
[QUOTE=Guido88]Hey Doc,
I stand corrected. Siberia is so damn big it’s easy to not be clear on boundaries.
Been wanting to hit several cities in the area from Ekat to Irtusk for a while. I think to do it right I will need at least a month.
Nice thing is now Aeroflot is a member of NWA alliance, which has opened up the country to cheaper travel with air miles from the states. 60k miles to anywhere in the country.
Guido88[/QUOTE]
My advice for flying in Siberia is either S7 or Skyexpress. Both are cheap airlines, but have new aircraft (Boeing and Airbus) and fly out of Moscow's newer privately-owned and operated airport hubs Domodedovo and Vnukovo, far superior to that shithole Soviet relic Sheremetveyo. And you can book e-tickets online. [url]www.s7.ru[/url] for example.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]My advice for flying in Siberia is either S7 or Skyexpress. Both are cheap airlines, but have new aircraft (Boeing and Airbus) and fly out of Moscow's newer privately-owned and operated airport hubs Domodedovo and Vnukovo, far superior to that shithole Soviet relic Sheremetveyo. And you can book e-tickets online. [url]www.s7.ru[/url] for example.[/QUOTE]
Skank,
I flew from Peiter to Vnukovo on SkyExpress a few weeks ago. Not bad at all. However, just as we were buckling our seat belts I notices that the buckle had an old VARIG logo on it. A quick scan around the cabin revealed that this Boeing 737 had once been a Brazilian VARIG airplane!!!! Take about funny. As someone who used to fly around Brazil extensively during the early 90's, it was a funny and nostalgic trip.
Later that day, I flew on Utair from Vnukovo to Ufa. However the Utair flight was on a TU-143 (I think). Both flights were decent and relatively cheap. No trouble at all.
[QUOTE=Jake993]Skank,
I flew from Peiter to Vnukovo on SkyExpress a few weeks ago. Not bad at all. However, just as we were buckling our seat belts I notices that the buckle had an old VARIG logo on it. A quick scan around the cabin revealed that this Boeing 737 had once been a Brazilian VARIG airplane!!!! Take about funny. As someone who used to fly around Brazil extensively during the early 90's, it was a funny and nostalgic trip.
Later that day, I flew on Utair from Vnukovo to Ufa. However the Utair flight was on a TU-143 (I think). Both flights were decent and relatively cheap. No trouble at all.[/QUOTE]
And we know who good the Brazilians were at maintaining their aircraft... ))
One airline to avoid in "Air Union". It's a Russian conglomerate of several regional airlines... in principal no problem... however TWICE they have cancelled my flight without warning because they didnt fill enough seats. A serious hassle.
Well fellas, I am out here right now, and its been one crazy first week. Last night at 3:30, Yulia finally showed up with Palina, who was twice as hot as Yulia. They drank a whole bottle of bacardi, straight up, and Yulia proceeded to puke her guts out, before the crazy lesbi-show they put on for me. Yulia was out of control, she fell off the bed onto the floor 3 times, and flew half way across the room smashing her mouth on the headboard. What a night.
Getting ready for another now, Dasha who swore she didn't want to have a sponsor, finally relented and will be over at 9:00.
Break out the Vitamin V!
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Well fellas, I am out here right now, and its been one crazy first week. Last night at 3:30, Yulia finally showed up with Palina, who was twice as hot as Yulia. They drank a whole bottle of bacardi, straight up, and Yulia proceeded to puke her guts out, before the crazy lesbi-show they put on for me. Yulia was out of control, she fell off the bed onto the floor 3 times, and flew half way across the room smashing her mouth on the headboard. What a night.
Getting ready for another now, Dasha who swore she didn't want to have a sponsor, finally relented and will be over at 9:00.
Break out the Vitamin V![/QUOTE]
Sounds like my kind of party! I admit, I sometimes really like the meltdown nights. Udacha!
I am soooooo tired, really fuckin' exhausted. I need a damn vacation just to get my strength back from killin' myself on my crazy fuckin' vacation!
Like, did I just now figure out, hey-dumb ass! You ain't 25 no more, get it?? Ok, so I am I only realizin' now, not even 35! (Or 45 either!!)
I mean, what am I trying to do, give myself a fucking stroke? I had one padrugi, she was so fucking hairy, I mean, NOBODY had fucked her for god only knows? Maybe never? I don't know, I guess its possible. Her pubes weren't kinky, they were straight, and LONG, I mean, so long it was obvious they had NEVER been cut or trimmed even once in her lifetime. Just one of the reasons to make me think it was her first time. Her lack of any experience whatsoever was another, and finally the blood, whihc I managed to get on my hands and proceed to leave some fingerprints of it on the shiny white wallpapaer in the living room where I attempted to mount her from the rear, and was so tired, I needed to lean against the wall, leaving further evidence of my exploit. Fortunately, my medical background gave me enough knowledge to know that mixing a little salt with warm water in a sponge will wipe away that mess pretty quick, which was what I needed. Tanya weas even nice enough to help me change the bloody sheets and make the bed again, before the next victim was due to arrive.
At that point, at 5:00 PM on my final day, with a ticket to leave at 2:00 AM, I was getting calls from both Anna the stripper, yes I did fuck a stripper this time, and from Sveta, the escort, who claimed I was her very first customer, another long story, which I will tell you about, later, when I post her fotos, but she was also calling me to introduce me to her friend Alla.
But I really wanted to meet Anna the stripper's friend, who I was supposed to be introduced to earlier, but she wan't available, and just like before, now Anna was also telling me that she just coouldn't come now, so I figured I would miss that chance. I wanted her becuase she was NOT a pro, and I fugured anyone Sveta hooked me up with, would come through Natasha, the new mamachka I found, and that's a whole other story as well.
So anyway, I mean, I'm thinking, here's Zhenya, cute as a button little avtoboos ticket taker who works from 7:00 AM to 10:00PM 6 lousy days a week and makes about $40 or $50 a week, in search of a generous sponsor that can show her some heart warming appreciation. She gives me the time of my life, but tells me she HAS to work the next day, and she wants me to meet her padrugi. Oh well, I guess I just gotta go do this work.
Unfortunately Tanya was NOT anything like Zhenya. She did have nice skin, but pale and on the pasty-looking side, even though she was very soft to the touch. But she had a VERY plain face, with a little hook nose, and a permanent frown, and a little paunch belly, so though only 19, she sure did not seem the kind of girl showing off ANYTHING to the boys, and in fact, the more I think about it, I see that Zhenya just wanted to share MY talent with her girlfriend, because all she did was hide under the blanket, and she couldn't even figure out how to give me a hand job, so yeah, it might not just have been her monthly period like I first thought, but it could have been her cherry. Cause she was damn DAMN tight. And the blood was only just so much, and then it stopped and there wasn't no more. Ah well, what's the diff anyway. I really yelled at her since i was beyond exhaustion at that point, on my 16th day of a marathon sabatical, with only just the Paskah holiday for dick resting. But yes, by the time I met Tanya, I was completely wiped out, and had in fact fucked the be-Jesus out of 3 dyevushkas the day before, and couldn't nut on any of them. So the next day, I was so looking forward to the slight possibility that Tanya would be another cutie, and was really let down when I saw she wsn't. She did have big tits, I'll give her that, but they were not spectacular at all.
And if I did truly debauch her womanhood, I should feel pretty bad for berating her and taking out my frustration on her for my own used up supply of sexual energy.
Well, we'll just have to get back to that later. Anyway, for now, here's the first couple of samples, to get something up. The first is of Anna the stripper, who tells me even though this big city only has a couple of strip clubs, she don't make any good money working, I guess the russian guys are cheap. Anna needed her face blurred cause she is not pretty, but she was fun.
The second is some bimbo from another agency, that I got through another strange story, that I will go into later, when I have some time. She's a faceless torso in this shot, but I've got a few others where you can see her smiling pleasantly. She must be the ONLY dyev I fucked that was over 20, I made an exception for her since she was willing to come over for a 10:00 AM session, the day after I met her, and sent her away because I had a younger prettier dyev coming at the same time from another agency. So I had to give her a break, right?
[QUOTE=Jake993]
I doubt that anyone can justify a mongering trip to Ufa.
[/QUOTE]
Where you see doubts, I only see possibilities and opportunties.
Any city, with that many girls, and so few western visitors, means that one only needs time to get acclimated, the proper preparations made prior to arrival with local contacts, financial stability, and some fucking Viagra to stay in the game, and they will more or less eat you alive.
Justification of mongering is all in the eye of the beholder.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Where you see doubts, I only see possibilities and opportunties.
Any city, with that many girls, and so few western visitors, means that one only needs time to get acclimated, the proper preparations made prior to arrival with local contacts, financial stability, and some fucking Viagra to stay in the game, and they will more or less eat you alive.
Justification of mongering is all in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE]
Very cute chick Bez, good to know you are out on the front fighting the good fight.
Point on regional "B" cities is time and repeat visits. To get on your feet and running you need more time than in Piter, Moscow or Kiev. I think to really enjoy a regional city, 7-10 days are minimum... but yeah, they can be a gold mine. Obviously when you return to a place, you only need 1-2 days to climatize again.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Where you see doubts, I only see possibilities and opportunties.
Any city, with that many girls, and so few western visitors, means that one only needs time to get acclimated, the proper preparations made prior to arrival with local contacts, financial stability, and some fucking Viagra to stay in the game, and they will more or less eat you alive.
Justification of mongering is all in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE]
Come on Ben old buddy - don't you go quoting me out of context. Ufa is probably better for mongering than both Moscow and Peiter when you consider that you have far, far less of the "scam factor" to deal with.
What I meant by my comment is that it's $400+ to get from Moscow to Ufa by plane so it's unlikely (unless you have plenty of disposable income) that a monger would come all the way to Moscow AND THEN fly all the way to Ufa just to get laid.
MY POINT (and yes I do have a point) is that if you do find yourself in Ufa (for God knows what reason) there are more ready, willing and able devushkas that you can shake a stick at.
Of course, I am in Belo Horizonte, Brazil at the moment and just woke up after a Sunday night sex romp with a 23 y.o. Mineira for $80, but you'll just have to go to the Brazil thread to read about it! Oh crap - she just woke up and wants to go again. You know what they say about girls from Minas Geraris....
Happy mongering......
[QUOTE=Jake993]
By quoting me out of context, it's unlikely a monger would come to Moscow AND fly to Ufa .
MY POINT is that you find devushkas that you stick it into for $80, just to know about mongering
[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly. Who fucking needs to fly through that zoo? Frequent flyer miles put me straight through from Western Europe, flying right OVER, not stopping for a minute, in the capital.
And sorry to you too Doc, but I'm also permanently by-passing Kiev now that I can connect direct from Western Europe without any overnights, straight into the Ukrainsky oblasts, on all future 3rd quarter harvest equinox projects.
White nights 2007
Vince Voyeur in Ptz from 22 to 27 june one day in the famous Vozduh concert hard rock metal with Kate in bikini a russian from Murmansk.
Not only one can easily have not-pros in this city I left with girls approximately 21 years every nights, you can have girls for free here but if you want to have sex just go to the sauna Afrika because the others saunas didn't have girls.
It's easy you can do the same thing as me in other smallest cities of Russia just ask to a taxi driver some words like tochka, prostitutki.
To conclude, I negotiated Natasha with 7000 roubles the full night and she was just for about 5 hours being tired by the fact of having 11 customers in this day and she has fuck 15 times in the same day. COB, CBJ and deep throat with DFK this really GFE 21 year old girl is coed student in painting and I crossed her with one of her student friend the following day at the exit of the university as if I did not exist whereas but she left me her personal number i give you by PM precisely so that I pass the evening with. She works for Alexander a strong guy which is owner of the agency Karmen i give the phone number by PM for young prostitutes delivery he claimed me 12000 roubles before raviser to propose the following rate is 1 hour with 1200 rubles, 2 hours for 2400 rubles and an hour in the car with only 800 rubles to make Natasha so hot.
Rate: 8
To continue I was invited Saturday evening by non-pros and I had my first sexual time for free and i have 29 yo, it was with with Elena which is the mother of Katerina 19 years the girl that I wish to marry because they speak French and her mom is ok that i marry her for visa. BBBJ + bareback but i always put a condom + DFK
To fuck the girls non-pros just chat with love.mail ore Karelia love and let them encounter you. In my exemple the mother who is a manager paid me to have sex with her.
I saw the daughter in upskirt and G-string the days after... please don't try to approach her...
Rate for the mom: 6
Vince the mother fucker
It is the capital of the Republic of Karelia in Russia, to go there it is enough to take the Saint Pete plane then the train at the Ladozhky brand new station. A smallest town of approximately 300000 inhabitantsand full of the russian or finnish blondes with blue eyes and especially the prices are much less expensive than in Saint-Petersburg. To find prostitutes just ask a taxi driver to go to the sauna AFRIKA the girls proposed are superb students between 8-9. To start I took Lyudmila which is 26 years old for 6300 roubles the whole night for more than 7 hours with COB, CBJ and the best that you will have deep throats, Luda works with 4 other girls.
Rate : 7,5
Gone to Petrozavodsk either by train or by bus. But this is what one web site tells me about flights:
Airplane
Regular flights from Helsinki (Finland) to Petrozavodsk (Russia).
Helsinki [14:30] - Petrozavodsk [16:50/17.30] - Cherepovets [18.30/19:00] - Moscow [20.05]
Moscow [09:05] - Cherepovets [10.55/11.20] - Petrozavodsk [12:20/13.10] - Helsinki [13.30]
Flights take place three times a week on Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Airline: Severstal. Aircraft: Yak-40.
Details
Direct flights Moscow (Vnukovo) - Petrozavodsk and return: 2 times a week, each Monday and Wednesday.
I always kind of liked Yak-40. Walkup entrance ramp for passengers in the rear. Luggage storage immediately after you enter the plane.
Seems like a good plane for Third world conditions, except that it is now very old.
Anyway, Petrozavodsk may have some potential. It has a university that has historically had one of the best English departments in Russia (due to Finnish immigrants who went to Karelia from the U.S. or Canada in the 1930s; one-third of them were liquidated in Soviet times). It also has a good Finnish department (or faculty, as they call them).
The point is that a foreign visitor might be welcomed by students in Petrozavodsk but Petrozavodsk is way too small a town for mongering (280000 inhabitants).
Here photos of Olga a 21 yo student who speaks english, a 18 yo girl looks like Avril Lavigne and another 18 yo with her finger in her mouth, and finally a girl with piercing on her tongue eating cream.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]this big city only has a couple of strip clubs[/QUOTE]
Thanks Bez for the precious added-value info.
Some more precisions, like *optionally* the city's name ?
;)
[quote=prosal]thanks bez for the precious added-value info.
some more precisions, like *optionally* the city's name ?
;)[/quote]
said too many times, what's one big city next to another? when ya got about 10 metropolitan centers rep001tered from rostov to voronezh to novosibirsk and all points in between at or just over or just under or around 1 million inhabitants, there's enough dyevushkas looking for a generous foreign sponsor to keep the small group of we few mongers interested in those destinations quite busy for as long as we'll have the time, resources, and effort to keep them busy entertaining us.
if i just spell it out for ya, i'm making it way too easy, and we all know how you like a little challenge and adventure in your otherwise boring mundane day to day machinations of the import export business. olive oil and pita bread my ass. you're a damn human smuggling white slavery ring conspirator and everybody knows it, so why don't ya just give interpol a call and lay out your whole albanian-lichtenstein-andorra connection so they can once an for all close their files on the carlos the jackal and your
former girlfirend's sister's babysitter love traingle.
as for my own locations specifics and gps coordinates, it really wouldn't be helpful to anyone but vince voyeur because i tend to leave a lot of shit stained used preservatives that he likes to re-package and use again for the nostalgic rush he gets form entering gaping anuses stretched far and wide across the vast open steppe.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]
Like, did I just now figure out, hey-dumb ass!
You ain't 25 no more, get it??
Ok, so I am I only realizin' now, not even 35!
Or 45 either!!
Even 55 seems like years ago!!
[/QUOTE]
Bez, you are the granddaddy of ISG. We all look up to you. Long may young dyevs run to fetch your pipe and slippers.
Hi all,
I'm seriously considering to take about a month and to go to see the real Russia, a longer holiday than as I used to do till now, to have the real view of what there is in Siberia, a land always fascinated me...
My idea is to flight to Piter, then after 1-2 days to fly directly to Tomsk or Omsk, then to see Novosibirk, maybe Krasnoyarsk and surely Irkutsk to see Bajkal where I hope I will find also some russian in holidays,maybe there is possible to have a sort of beach life?!?( in Listvyanka ?) or am I wrong about it ?, than back directly to Piter, a couple of days to biggest city on the north, Murmansk and back home to write surely my longest report :)
I decided for sure Piter-Irkutsk and Murmansk, maybe 1-2 more city in Siberia or only Irkutsk, it depens how much fun I will have there or not.
I am conscious it can be a hit and miss travel, maybe a bit dangerous too, but I am a bit adventure type and I take this travel as a challenge for me, I will travel alone...
Period will be about middle of july and I have some questions for the more experienced in far east Russia.
- which cities do you suggest me to see in Siberia?
- to book hotels once there or it is a risk in summer to not find where to sleep so better to book them in advance ?
- how good has to be my knowledge of russian there ?
- better use turistic visa or to try to get business one ? ( if I read correctly I need a russian company invites me to be able to get a business visa, or there are agency that provides also the invitation from russian company to get business visa ?)
Real every suggests is this time, very welcomed....
Thanks in advance
It seems nobody interested about Siberia or no info about it ?
Lukashek,
I have some experience from Siberia area, gorod Tomsk, I visited few times and have very nice experience. Tomsk is university city with lot of nice sexy students ready for chat, drink and something more, depends of you.
I recommend Hotel magistrat, [url]www.magistrathotel.com[/url], maybe is expensive but very comfortable. Also recommend restaurant VECNIJ ZOV, or something like this where you can meet a lot of very nice attractive girls.
About visa usually used touristic, because is very simply to get, one time I used business, but spent lot of time and needed to make HIV test.
If you will use private accomm. don't forget to visit OVIR for registration.
Good luck and lot of entertainment
Lukasek,
I think we're all interested in Sibir, it's just that on one has much info on the place.
I'm sure we will all be interested to read about your experience.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I'm seriously considering to take about a month and to go to see the real Russia, a longer holiday than as I used to do till now, to have the real view of what there is in Siberia, a land always fascinated me[/QUOTE]
Siberia is highly enthralling.
It's at the top of my dream trips... Krasnoyarsk, Tomsk, Irkurst, Abakan (seems there's a huge quantity of gorgeous brunettes with Tatar backgrounds in Abakan BTW), Omsk, Novossibirsk, ect.. all Siberia is good I think. Unfortunatly cost of lodging is a real problem in provincial Russia as it seems VERY difficult to find a flat for less than $100/day or a hotel for less than $150 ; it's a major turn-off for me.
I also have looong EE vacations scheduled, from July 29 till Sept 8, and one of the only places left where accommodation and cost of life are still affordable is Chisinau.
So once more, I think I gonna be back to moldovian routine this summer. There are worse places for a one-month-stay anyway. :)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec1V_PqrxnY[/url]
[QUOTE=Prosal]Siberia is highly enthralling.
It's at the top of my dream trips... Krasnoyarsk, Tomsk, Irkurst, Abakan (seems there's a HUGE quantity of gorgeous brunettes with Tatar backgrounds in Abakan), Omsk, Novossibirsk, ect.. all Siberia is good I think. Unfortunatly cost of lodging is a real problem in provincial Russia as it seems VERY difficult to find a flat for less than $100/day or a hotel for less than $150 ; it's a major turn-off for me.
I also have looong EE vacations scheduled this summer, from July 29 till Sept 8, and one of the only place left where accommodation and cost of life are still affordable is Chisinau.
So back to the moldovian routine this summer. There are worse places for a one-month-stay anyway. :)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec1V_PqrxnY[/url][/QUOTE]Luka: I'm Transibing this fall, but it will be business and besides some hotel ho action I doubt I'll get the real flavor. Been to Novo before and was impressed with the females.
Prosal: I'm scared to go to Chis. Have enough trouble trying to keep Moscow, Petes, Odessa, Kiev and Sochi under wraps. I can't handle much more "involvement". They say a two front war is impossible to win, but 6 fronts?
OT ON
After driving for 14 hours , early morning, tired as horse, but I was still in mood to hit a night club, great session, bbbj,dfk and daty with a tip of 100 zloty-30 euro, but with deep in my mind this travel to russia, even a friendly polish girl here in Wroclaw did not give me the kind of smile I have when I had my feet in Russia...soon in Poland thread my report...
OT OFF
Thanks all....
Leonard Bach: I want at least visa for 3 months, so if I will have nice time an find an enough reasonable cheap place where to stay I won't to hurry back home,cause my turistic 30 days visa is ending....
Magistrat hotel 176 euro per day single room...too expensive for a long stay there for me...
I have to register only once as I get into Russia, or everytime I change city-region ?
Strav: I thougt lack of answers here, it was lack of interests and not of info, I will be glad too, once back home, to write the longest and better report I wrote in the my last 4 years in this forum, with ths trip to Sib, I am gonna have the travel of my life,I dreamed about it for long time...
Prosal: I noticed, very hard to find reasonable accomodation in Siberia, but so far as there the cost of living is cheaper, surely it exist cheap ones, the question is how to find them ? Cause the key it seems to be booking live there, from net I found only expensive ones and I do not like to go 7.000km far from home without knowing in advance I have a place where I will stay.
5 weeks in Moldova and you will have surely a lot of fun ( I wish you ;) ) at cheaper prices than in Siberia, I know it, but Sib and russian girls fascinate me so much... I cannot resist....great video btw...
Doc: Novo is one of the city I will visit as well..
So now soon I have to find my CD of rosetta stone russian course and to be a very good student, I have the feeling my knowledge of english will be me so helpfull as an ice cream at north pole....
I am trying to contact girls by luckylovers, nothing, by skype, something usefull I found, however the first question is, which period ?
Cause even if july-august will be warmer but I need still time to get business visa, to plan everything very good and most of all, thinking to hit university city....when exactly students after summer holidays will be back to university ? Beginning of september ? Later I will only find too cold weather there and maybe earlier empty city cause everybody in holidays. Some suggests guys ?
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Prosal: I'm scared to go to Chis. Have enough trouble trying to keep Moscow, Petes, Odessa, Kiev and Sochi under wraps.[/QUOTE]
Chisinau is SO your scene (in term of freebies potential), you should try someday indeed.
Anyway I slept on my last night's post, and decided to break the routine this summer and leave the moldovian dyevs for a while. I bought a ticket for Tashkent this morning (!!!) and just book an apartment (us$ 650/month).
So off to Uzbekistan July 31 till Sept 9. :)
Luka, what about a extended weekend in Tashkent if you're in Siberia this summer ?
Ei,
But don't you were looking for a good place on the seaside.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Chisinau is SO you (I think), you should try someday indeed.
Anyway I slept on my last night's post and decided to break the routine this summer and leave the moldovian dyevs for a while. I bought a ticket for Tashkent this morning (!!!) and just book an apartment (us$ 650/month).
So off to Uzbekistan July 31 till Sept 9. :)
Luka, what about a extended weekend in Tashkent if you're in Siberia this summer ?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Assimil]ei, but don't you were looking for a good place on the seaside[/QUOTE]
Tashkent has a great beach scene during summertime on the shores of Tcharvak Lake (the largest artificial lake of Central Asia, just 10 kms out of town) from what I've read.
Anyway I bought the ticket with a lot of excitement. Shit. An untouched FSU city with a population of 2.5 millions (almost 4x Chisinau) surely represent A LOT of willing dyevuskas.
:)
[QUOTE=Prosal]....Luka, what about a extended weekend in Tashkent if you're in Siberia this summer ?[/QUOTE]
Prosal, the friend I was together in Odessa, told me about Tashkent as heaven so well already 2 years ago... I think you was surely brave to change Kish with central asia and I am sure it worth it... You got a real bargain at 650$ one month, thinking to the sibir rate for accomodation.... I do not say no or yes, let me finish to enjoy this weekend in Wroclaw and be sure I will think about it....once home in 4-5 days I will write you pm...
Bye for now and thanks for invitation to join you ;)
Assimil: I was searching about seaside too,but I decided I will enjoy seaside at my home from now and then later let's enjoy top notch girls...
Hi Lukashek,
Of course for long staying magistrat is expensive, then I recommend you to not waste time, find grilfriend (as I did) and you will have very cheap and comfortable accomm.
For 3 months staying better to apply for business visa, just you need more time (HIV test). As I know you only need one time registering to OVIR
I have seaside too where I live and I am already pretty tanned.
So the problem is not that.
It's only that I have some some dobts about capitals in August. As we know, university are closed, it's very hot, girls want to go to the sea, and so on.
And I already tried Kisinev and Minsk scenes in August.
But anyway, that doesn't mean that Prosal can have a good hunt in Taskent.
By my side, I didn't take a decision yet, but I think that, at the end, I will make a jump on Moldova, and than will take a look on the seaside in Ukraine.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Prosal, the friend I was together in Odessa, told me about Tashkent as heaven so well already 2 years ago... I think you was surely brave to change Kish with central asia and I am sure it worth it... You got a real bargain at 650$ one month, thinking to the sibir rate for accomodation.... I do not say no or yes, let me finish to enjoy this weekend in Wroclaw and be sure I will think about it....once home in 4-5 days I will write you pm...
Bye for now and thanks for invitation to join you ;)
Assimil: I was searching about seaside too,but I decided I will enjoy seaside at my home from now and then later let's enjoy top notch girls...[/QUOTE]
Assimil,
I agree with you and please, share with us your experience to travel in august ? How it was in august in Kis and Minsk ? City empty with girls in holiday I suppose, right ?
I am as you, yet I did not take decision, but I have to do it soon.
Btw so far my only one, but good contact in Sibir Irkutsk told me will be back in city after 23 august, she told me much better september to go there searching girls, but besides girls, I need her cause she can help me arrange hotel as well.
I think Prosal can do very good and honestly Tashkent still fascinates me....
From my point of view, very hard to decide....
How was Minsk during this period?
Thx
[QUOTE=Assimil]I have seaside too where I live and I am already pretty tanned,
:)
so the problem is not that...
:)
It's only that I have some some dobts about capitals in August.
as we know, university are closed, it's very hot, girls want to go to the sea,
and so on...
and I already tried Kisinev and Minsk scenes in August...
but anyway,
that doesn't mean that Prosal can have a good hunt in Taskent.
by my side, I didn't take a decision yet, but I think that, at the end,
I will make a jump on Moldova, and than will take a look on the seaside in Ukraine[/QUOTE]
Minsk,
It was my first (and unique) visit: It was simply a. Disaster.
40 degrees, my best contacts out of the city,
Others finding excuses
(maybe they were angry that I didn't announce them I was arriving). I met only 2, and they didn't impressed me.
Food is not good, and expensive if compared with other e. E. Places, and also with w. E.
Many foreigners go to Lido, they call it bistrot, but it is a self service. It was 12-15 euros for my usual meal, and for example in Kisinev it's 5-7. Anyway, for the same meal, but worse in quality and quantity, if you go on some cafes (as they called, but referring maybe on the srvice) on Nimiga (on the river) you have to pay at least 20 euros, eating with a paper tablecloth. That means I can have a better and less expensive service even in Barcelona or Rome
Service in restaurant is not good and people who work there are not polite, and in small shops is the same.
I visited west world disco: very bad structure, with smell of "old"; few and uglies unconsiderables girls.
Impossible to hunt outside during the day with such a weather, and the city is big, so it's not easy to understand wich place to go.
And, to be sincere, I didn't see such beauties I was expecting to see, also after reading some reports here.
To conclude:
I escaped before than what I planned leaving the apartment already payed
On the other hand the city is clean, and ordered, streets and road are very large and this avoid traffic jam, even if there were lots of cars, and there were works in progress in the streets.
Under that point of view, it seem to be a develope country, maybe more than many western countries.
I appreciated that, but of course I went there for other reasons.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Assimil,
I agree with you and please, share with us your experience to travel in august ? How it was in august in Kis and Minsk ? City empty with girls in holiday I suppose, right ?
I am as you, yet I did not take decision, but I have to do it soon.
Btw so far my only one, but good contact in Sibir Irkutsk told me will be back in city after 23 august, she told me much better september to go there searching girls, but besides girls, I need her cause she can help me arrange hotel as well.
I think Prosal can do very good and honestly Tashkent still fascinates me....
From my point of view, very hard to decide....[/QUOTE]
Assimil thanks, very helpfull and definetely I understand how you had to feel after a travel that had to be full of girls and ending as it ends.
Good you shared it with us ;)
Anybody have any wh0re-happy or girl-friendly hotel recommendations for following cities:
Yekaterinburg (I'm thinking Park Hotel)
Krasnojarsk
Irkutsk
Looking for something slightly upscale, 4 star or so.
Hello,
I am soon going to Zelenograd, just 50km out of Moscow. Any recommendations for hotels there. Are there nice bars there. Any girls there. I do not know anything about this city.
Tiffany
Not much happening in Zelenograd. There's a massage parlor and 1 or 2 girls who work out there. You're better off making the trip into Moscow.
Try this link for some basic info [url]http://zlngrd.ru[/url]
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Ufa isn't in Siberia, it's in the Urals.
I have also made the mistake of thinking everything east of the Urals is Siberia, but Siberia doesn't actually begin until Yekaterinburg. Actually just after Yekaterinburg. My innocent question almost started a fight between two Russian colleagues once while eating dinner in Yekaterinburg. The one insisited Yekaterinburg was the "gate to Siberia", while the other insisted Siberia began just outside of the city. They couldn't agree so we just drank vodka instead, which actually did come from Siberia.[/QUOTE][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_Federal_District[/url]
I guess even Yakutia, Ulan Ude, and Khaborovsk aren't in the Siberian Federal District, population 20 mil. Even Tyumen, on the other side, isn't in Siberia, but I wouldn't bother with Tyumen anyway - I hear they're flooded with petrodollars. I've also heard that Tomsk is a blast because it's not on the Trans-Sib and it's full of students. For the true Russian co-ed experience, though, nothing beats Academgorodok, an academic city right outside of Novosibirsk (itself rather dismally Soviet). In that part of the world, you've got to think in terms of oil / gas / minerals / metals people / money - where there is none, the place is more fun. Some really dismal, out of the way places like the Nenets Peninsula in the Arctic Circle and Sakhalin, are as expensive as Moscow or more. An ESL teacher told me that by comparison, Khaborovsk has a native English-speaking population of less than 30 souls.
Seeing that most Moscow clubs have become sausage fests and decent girls even at the tochki are fetching more than 10K, my friend and I decided we need to relive the "good ole days" with a weekend trip to provincial Russia. We're looking for desperate hotties willing to do just about anything to get out of the shithole sovok city in which they live. Here are the constraints:
- must be within 3 hours flight from Moscow (preferably less, and serviced by S7)
- must be within Russia due to visa issues (not Belarus, not Ukraine)
- must have a 3* or better hotel/apartment, preferably a 2 bedroom job, that is tolerant of many different girls being brought in at all hours of the day or night
- must have decent restaurants/clubs for eating, drinking, chilling and scoping prey
- preferably a university town (me likes studentki!)
We're both conversant in Russian, so language is not an issue.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions!
Pizdyets,
You're right, it's time to broaden our horizons. You might try Yaroslavl. I've never been there so I can't speak from experience, but it meets all of your requirements, you don't even need to fly, just take the train. I have met some working girls in Moscow who live in Yaroslavl and commute to Moscow. Not sure about the desperate hotties, though. You might have to get to Goos Xrystahl for that.
The place I really want to see is a little town just beyond Yarosavl, called Ribinsk. If you go to love.mail.ru, and do your basic search for women 18 to 23, there are in inordinate number of them, for such a small town. Can't help but wonder what's going on.
Pyzdiets,
One of my ex-girl friends was from Tver, and she told me that the city was full of young dievtchkis, especially when you go out for in disco.
One of the "directors" of my company, in the train on the way to St Pet, when we stopped at Tver told me "this is the best town to pick up girls, all men are working in Moscow, when you go out there is only girls and no men".
So, maybe it worths a visit? I went there but with my official second part so couldn't explore the city as I would like to, so I can't confirm.
Bad part is that hotels are an issue there.
[QUOTE=Passepartout]Pyzdiets,
One of my ex-girl friends was from Tver, and she told me that the city was full of young dievtchkis, especially when you go out for in disco.
One of the "directors" of my company, in the train on the way to St Pet, when we stopped at Tver told me "this is the best town to pick up girls, all men are working in Moscow, when you go out there is only girls and no men".
So, maybe it worths a visit? I went there but with my official second part so couldn't explore the city as I would like to, so I can't confirm.
Bad part is that hotels are an issue there.[/QUOTE]I think you hit the nail on the head.
Actually ANYWHERE is really great if you can get out of Moscow and have 7-10 days to relax somewhere else.
Biggest headache is accomodation. Flats are kind of difficult to find and often nothing special. Still, they are generally better than hotels which are either flea-ridden dumps or overpriced remonted dumps, not to mention security issues. Note I am not talking about your security, but rather running the gauntlet with your girl passed security. It's all doable of course, but isn't always the "less-expensive Moscow" people are hoping for. But worth the effort nonetheless, I've always enjoyed my jaunts into the boonies.
[QUOTE=Passepartout]
One of my ex-girl friends was from Tver, and she told me that the city was full of young dievtchkis, especially when you go out for in disco.
[/QUOTE]
Hey Passepartout,
Yeah, I've met a couple girls from Tver and they were real sweethearts. I still have the number for one of them and will ask her about the nightlife scene there. Will report back if I learn anything interesting...
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Seeing that most Moscow clubs have become sausage fests and decent girls even at the tochki are fetching more than 10K, my friend and I decided we need to relive the "good ole days" with a weekend trip to provincial Russia. We're looking for desperate hotties willing to do just about anything to get out of the shithole sovok city in which they live. Here are the constraints:
- must be within 3 hours flight from Moscow (preferably less, and serviced by S7)
- must be within Russia due to visa issues (not Belarus, not Ukraine)
- must have a 3* or better hotel/apartment, preferably a 2 bedroom job, that is tolerant of many different girls being brought in at all hours of the day or night
- must have decent restaurants/clubs for eating, drinking, chilling and scoping prey
- preferably a university town (me likes studentki!)
We're both conversant in Russian, so language is not an issue.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions![/QUOTE]Try Nizhny Novgorod.
Great student scene, some good bars and tolerant hotels. I've been using rambler.ru to hook up before going there and now have a nice couple of dyevs that I can call on. Bar 52 near the university is a studentka paradise, particularly if you speak Russian. There are a few other bars down around Gorki Square and along the river that are pretty good, and one of the strip bars is called "strip bar". Saw the best breasts I've ever seen live there.
Good luck,
Cheers
Try Yoshkar-Ola. It's an overnight train ride or a 1-1/2 hour plane ride from Moscow. Women outnumber men there, there is little good work, and a lot of women are dying to get out, so they will do almost anything for the hope of leaving. I have gotten numerous freebies there.
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Seeing that most Moscow clubs have become sausage fests and decent girls even at the tochki are fetching more than 10K, my friend and I decided we need to relive the "good ole days" with a weekend trip to provincial Russia. We're looking for desperate hotties willing to do just about anything to get out of the shithole sovok city in which they live. Here are the constraints:
- must be within 3 hours flight from Moscow (preferably less, and serviced by S7)
- must be within Russia due to visa issues (not Belarus, not Ukraine)
- must have a 3* or better hotel/apartment, preferably a 2 bedroom job, that is tolerant of many different girls being brought in at all hours of the day or night
- must have decent restaurants/clubs for eating, drinking, chilling and scoping prey
- preferably a university town (me likes studentki!)
We're both conversant in Russian, so language is not an issue.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Seeing that most Moscow clubs have become sausage fests and decent girls even at the tochki are fetching more than 10K, my friend and I decided we need to relive the "good ole days" with a weekend trip to provincial Russia. We're looking for desperate hotties willing to do just about anything to get out of the shithole sovok city in which they live. Here are the constraints:
- must be within 3 hours flight from Moscow (preferably less, and serviced by S7)
- must be within Russia due to visa issues (not Belarus, not Ukraine)
- must have a 3* or better hotel/apartment, preferably a 2 bedroom job, that is tolerant of many different girls being brought in at all hours of the day or night
- must have decent restaurants/clubs for eating, drinking, chilling and scoping prey
- preferably a university town (me likes studentki!)
We're both conversant in Russian, so language is not an issue.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions![/QUOTE]
Go to Ufa man.
Was there in April.
* Two decent hotels and another on the way.
* S7 just started service there.
* Two or three excellent clubs there from which to pick up studenki (A-Cafe, Prospect and Jet)
* REALLY impressive selection of women. A real cross roads giving you Tatar influence, Bashkiri, Nordic Russians....... it' great.
See my post on this thread #512
Yaroslav, Tver, Nizhny Novgorod, Yoshkar-Ola or Ufa ??
I agree with Doc, anywhere out of Moscow can be great, but where it will be better ?
There is really no difference when you go out of Moscow or some cities are cheaper in accomodation prices, have more students or better sex scene ?
In about one month I will finally go back to Russia for 3rd time, I gave up with Irkutsk, too far, but surely I will not spend much time in the capital looking my money disappear for just a piece of pussy.
Tver is ok, just 160km from Moscow, you can check it in 2 days, but then where ?
Three possibilities:
Ufa ? I liked the report of Jake993...
Yoshkar-Ola? In my home city, I got very nice sex with a pro from this city, very friendly even if she was very nice and with so many customers, she was busy most of the time.
Tomsk ? The so called city students for the number of university ?
Should I choose at random or what ?
Sooner I decide, more time to work looking for contacts in net I have.
Thanks....
P.S. nobody suggested Murmansk, but it is city that fascinated me and I guess not many westerners mongers go so much to the north :)
Luka, why not Tashkent?
I must admit that the non-pro scene is not as wild and fruitful as in Moldova and surely provincial Russia (yet still great), but apartments rentals are easy to find and dirt cheap ($500/month), running costs are next to nothing, city is clean, green, secure, enjoyable and carries an insane numbers of goorgeous and tall women of all ethnicities (tatars, persians/iranians, north russians, asians, ect and all-in-between) wrapped-up in too short dresses and stilettos, regular nightlife is good even on weekdays and the whole place is literally crawling with pros or occasionals and with places to meet them (there's not less than three huge freelancers discos with everyday 50 to 100 working girls in each).
Tashkent is a good option indeed. I'm there since almost four weeks (two more to go) and don't regret a single second my choice.
I already even think about coming back here next summer. :)
[QUOTE=Prosal]Luka, why not Tashkent?
Tashkent is a good option indeed. [/QUOTE]
Prosal,
I think the original question was limited to locations WITHIN Russia (or maybe no) but since you brought up Tashkent, I though I would pose the question about Ashgabat. I have floated the notion out there a few times over the past few weeks and have gotten precious little feedback. The tried looking at the T-stan forum and there is precious little info.
Does ANYONE have any recent info about mongering in T-stan (Turkmenistan) and in particular Ashgabat? I am going in a few weeks on business and (true to my boy-scout roots) would like to "be prepared".
Cheers,
Jake
Prosal Jake993 is right, within Russia, why ?
For more reasons, first of all, I checked right now, 1.100 euro to fly till Tashkent VS less than 300 euro to Moscow. Yes, once there, surely cheaper in Uzbekistan than in Russia, however I have no idea how Uzbek girl looks like, if I will like them or not.
Prosal you did not post pictures....please do it ;) ... and the Uzbek girls I saw in random search in mail.ru they are not the kind of looking I like enough to go till there, but I agree, for one month in summer, actually I will travel about end of september, Tashkent can be good and maybe next summer we will meet there.
Also I would like to travel a little and to see more than one city in this travel and about one thing I am sure....no matter in which city in Russia I will go... I will surely love all the girls there :)
I really cannot wait....
Sorry Luka for this hijacking about Tashkent. I thought you were looking (as I am) for a good old Soviet lifestyle of drunken debauchery at low cost within FSU.
Anyway re : Uzbek women. I am admittily not as well travelled in EE as most guys here, as I have focused on Brasil and travelled there extensively for almost fifteen years and discovered Moldova and Romania only three years ago, but there is in Tashkent a higher ratio of outrageoulsy hot women than in any other place I can think of or have been to, Chisinau included.
I have a fascination for tatar brunettes yet, which is the largest ethnic group here, before north russian and then asian, so my opinion is maybe not totally objective. :)
Pros my fascination is for tall, slim, blond hair, light eyes, little sexy ass and totally shaved pussy with big lips ;)
15 years in Brazil ? Good to know, I am thinking about it in the autumn, I will probably write you pm and for now, keep on enjoying Tashk, have fun, bye ;)
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Pros my fascination is for tall, slim, blond hair, light eyes, little sexy ass and totally shaved pussy with big lips[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/loiras.htm[/url]
Lukasek - these are all girls from Sao Paulo, Brazil. And the further south in Brazil you go, the blonder they get. I travel to Brazil about 6 times year alternating with FSU. It's a hard life.
Check out the Brazil forum or PM me for more details.
Jake
Jackie thanks for the link, I never thought brazilian garotas could be so blond, the only time I was there, was in Recife, almost no one light skin, too bad for me after twice in Russia, I missed the typical russian devushka soo much...
I always thought the only thing missing in Russia was the atmospere you get only in the city in front of the ocean where almost all the time you see girls in bikini or very little dressed.
I almost decided the cities to hit in Russia, I am looking for the agency where to buy business visa and after Russia I will write you surely PM with some questions about Brazil :)
However how do you compare Brazil VS Russia? Where did you get more fun and the highest number of GFE ? Where you would like to spend more time ?
Obrigado ;)
[QUOTE=Lukasek]
1.100 euro to fly till Tashkent VS less than 300 euro to Moscow. Yes, once there, surely cheaper than Russia, however I have no idea how Uzbek girl looks like, if I will like them or not.
Prosal you did not post pictures....please do it ;) ... and the Uzbek girls I saw in random search in mail.ru they are not the kind of looking I like enough to go till there, but I agree, for one month in summer, actually I will travel about end of september, Tashkent can be good and maybe next summer we will meet there.
Also I would like to travel a little and to see more than one city in this travel and about one thing I am sure....no matter in which city in Russia I will go... I will surely love all the girls there :)
I really cannot wait....[/QUOTE]
Sally will surely argue, that we can't simply go by random mail.ru searching, to judge what they look like, because if you just compare the cultures, eastern russian, or even persian ethnic, or some mix of the two, you have mostly fit and healthy young ladies ages 18 to 23, who even in a place like Tehran, once down to their skivvies, are for the most part very hot, and sweet on top of that, so there is very little to complain about.
Compare that to the ever increasing percentage of miserable cows found in the west, or the ethnic indiginous indian culture which is the majority in latin and south american countries, and its just not even close, in the hotness factor. Not saying that there aren't tons of hot latin women, but that's mostly due to their proportion of european ancestry, not the mestizo or afro genetics. And also, not saying that many mongers do prefer those traits, I just don't happen to be of that persuasion, and at the moment, we are here on this thread talking about what makes pussy in Uzbekistan tantalizing enough to justify the long trip.
As far as summer though, my old friend/agent at Uz Air highly recommends springtime, really April, for incomparably comfortable weather, AND a proliferation of blooming flowers across those lands. And by flowers, I do mean the young ladies in heat unfolding their rose petals to waft the sweet aroma of punany into the male population's nostrils to initiate fertilization. There's also a flood of actual blooming plant life, if you're into botany. :p
Other than his own personal reasons or timing of his holiday, not sure why Mr. Sally, or anyone, would prefer +37 degree July for a Central Asian getaway, when spring or even fall is delightfully pleasant weather. Though one obvious plus for summer is the aquapark, especially if its outdoors. I can personally attest however, that last November, when it was 7 degrees in Russia, the indoor waterpark I was hitting twice a week to swim my laps for exercise in the pool, was full every day of hot girls in thongs. They might not have been toasty hot from sunburn, but with their boobs and pubes bursting out of too-tight bikinis, it took all my willpower just to keep my tongue from dragging the floor in that heavenly place. :D
[QUOTE=Lukasek]
In Russia, I look for the agency where to buy business visa
[/QUOTE]
And when I say a registered company, I do NOT mean the travel agent.
I mean the business that invites you must be registered with the Ministry of Travel.
And subsequently, the reason WHY they invite YOU should be clear, because you're also required to write as such on your application.
How much the consular office visa reviewer actually cares or pays attention to the details may be a completely different story though. They may scrutinize every word for accuracy, or totally ignore what's on the forms because their interest may solely be the payment you've attached, so that once they recognise that your travel agent who prepared the documents is on their list of "paid up to date" authorized, (that is, their regualr bribe payments are not past due), they just stamp the forms and print your visa.
But I have no access to this knowledge.
Thankie Bezzie ;)
I am only guessing if the recents problems in Georgia could affect to obtain business visa or not ?
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]not sure anyone, would prefer +37 degree July for a Central Asian getaway, when fall is delightfully pleasant weather that my old friend/agent highly recommends.[/QUOTE]
Bez
You should post this tip in the Lonely Planet Forum. It's a pretty good recommandation for backpackers who want visiting Silk Roads cities a la fresco, but not for a monger. Fall is not a great season to go to Tashkent. Outdoors swimming pools (incl. Aquapark and Radisson, which was already semi-deserted today), hip cafe terasses as JSmockers, the hip outdoor club KTKomba, ect, all close around 15 September as it's the beginning of cold and rainy season. Since a few days have arrived the first cold winds and the first clouds BTW.
May is not that great also from what I've been told from GFs and dyevs randomly met at the pool, yet your "old friend/agent" in Creston, Iowa, is surely a better adviser.
June, July (even if it's the most scorching hot month of the year) and August are for a monger definitely the best monthes to go to Tashkent. I personnaly prefer scorching heat, outdoor pools packed with tiny bikinis and cafe terraces crawling with ultra short skirts and too tiny dresses than rain and coats.
[QUOTE=Prosal]
Bez
You should post in Lonely Planet for backpackers but not for a monger.
Aquapark was already semi-deserted today, it's the beginning of cold season.
May is not great, your agent in Creston, Iowa, is surely a better adviser.
I prefer scorching heat.
[/QUOTE]
Clueless as usual, perhaps you should let the membership, rather than one disappointment like yourself, decide whether my posts belong here or not.
But its no surprise that you react exactly as I predicted, that you'd get all insulted and revengeful, instead of making a real contribution and bringing a few photos of your adventure to share with your brothers. Maybe its just all hot air, you know, the kind you prefer, that you're blowing around, that's the real reason behind your lack of initiative. After all, if they really are ugly, or even more pathetic, if you're just creating all these incredibly awesome girlfriends for us to read about so members will pretend to envy you and your bloated ego, well, let the reader beware!
Even more interesting that you'd mention you're home town in Iowa, some bumfuck pork farm that only you've heard of, as the supposed location of my travel agent, who, sorry to blow the lid off your great insult theory, but Neela Farajian actually does work in an office in Manhatten for Uzbekistan Airways out of JFK, though she's from Urgench, not Iowa.
If anyone can read, I never said that September is best, I said that springtime is much better weather, FOR NORMAL PEOPLE who don't prefer scorching heat. I don't know, maybe its just from living in Florida, where its so fucking hot most of the time, that when I take a vacation, I actually prefer nice cool afternoons and crispy nights.
Pretty much a waste of space to argue about the weather, too bad you weren't soaking up the sun in Inagua this morning, in their scorching salt ponds and 140 mph hurricane winds courtesy of Ike. I'm certain that would be enough to blow up a few skirts for ya!
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]....instead of making a real contribution and bringing a few photos of your adventure to share with your brothers....[/QUOTE]
Finally we had one senior member went to Tashkent, not for 1 or 2 week, but for 6 weeks, everybody waiting to see many photos of the city and the girls or at least few photos and... no one single small photo ???
Prosal I give 10' cause you was brave to decide to went there all alone for such long time without having here serious, long update report about Tashkent but...you could kindly share much more infos and mainly photos with us....
[QUOTE=Lukasek]you could kindly share much more infos with us.....[/QUOTE]
Luka I posted a decent quantity of infos on the Uz section ... no need to elaborate IMHO, especially here in the russian thread.
In a few words Tashkent is great, and I personally don't see any reason for a monger for NOT going there (in the summer monthes preferably, despite what sanguinily claims our distinguished Doctor of Climatobezology).
Anywy what kind of timorous and undecided mongers need an excessive amount of infos to venture beyond the frontiers of over-tapped destinations and mass-prostitution mecquas ? ...are we pioneers or are we pussies ? :)
[QUOTE=Prosal]... ...are we pioneers or are we pussies ? :)[/QUOTE]
A very good question, I agree Prosal, you are pioneer for sure and me ? I will try to answer very soon, cause for me it is almost time to use my suitcases.... ;) Finally !
[QUOTE=Lukasek]cause for me it is almost time to use my suitcases.... ;) Finally ![/QUOTE]
Great. What you intend to do is the very core of the pionner elite monger mission. What will be your schedule finally ?
Provincial Russia is n°1 on my to-do list for the next one-month trip, even if I somehow miss brasileiras I must admit, and could easily see myself on a Sao Paulo Litoral Norte beach - the best beach scene in Brasil - in February. Anyway it could very well be Krasnodar. A single search on mail.ru with "Krasnodar - women - aged 18/25 - with photos" gives an insane numbers of outrageously gorgeous women. Gotta go back to Tashkent also, definitively (only in summer lol).
Report and take photos ok, or Mollha Bez, Minister of Deontology (and occasionnaly renowned Climatologist) gonna report you to Jackson for the Banned Users Hall of Shame for deficiency in monger's obligations. ;)
[QUOTE=Prosal]Great. What you intend to do is the very core of the pionner elite monger mission. What will be your schedule finally ?
...[/QUOTE]
I let my schedule a bit secret, cause I am sure, I will not get info here...first cause 2 of 3 cities I want to visit never been reported here and second, cause it seems even those who went to provincial Russia, they do not share these precious infos with the forum....so why should I do first ? :)
Right now back from a dinner with my friends.... we spoke all the time about Brazil-Rio but even if I should go there in end of the year, probably I will be still in south america at the beginning of new year.... it could be very funny to drink a beer together you in San Paolo in winter instead of the beer we had to drink in Tashkent in summer ;)
P.S. I saw almost every single city above half milion of inhabitants give out a huge number of top notch in simple search in mail.ru.... I am sure, one could also choose at random which city to visit and he will never been disappointed....however yes, I am disappointed I did not was enough brave to join your offer to go together to Tashkent ;)
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Yaroslav, Tver, Nizhny Novgorod, Yoshkar-Ola or Ufa ??
I agree with Doc, anywhere out of Moscow can be great, but where it will be better ?[/QUOTE]I live in Yaroslavl and can show whoever around in exchange for a paid subscription to this site. I got a 7-8 19 year old who claimed to have 6 months of experience (probably less) on Friday (5 Sep '08) for 1400p/hour (about $60). She was a nice little fuck. I ate her out because it was early in the evening and she claimed that she hadn't had sex that day. Yaroslavl is a university city and good for sarging. A few friends showed up and got mingers for 1000p/hour, and sex can be had for as little as 900p/hour now that some budget place has opened up. I have a 1-room flat here. Well-equipped saunas go for 500p/hour. 2000p/hour will buy you a 24yo single mom in Hotel Utah. Please don't whinge about me not posting photos. I really can't be bothered to. Ironically, hookers tend to be camera shy and camsluts tend to be unwilling to agree to p4p. That's just the way it goes.
Guys,
I found nothing on Perm - Ural.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Thankie Bezzie ;)
I am only guessing if the recents problems in Georgia could affect to obtain business visa or not ?[/QUOTE]
The biggest new visa changes are that:
1. you can't get a visa in a country other than your own and where you aren't registered without waiting for 2 weeks
2. you have to leave Russia every 90 days (I don't think this applies to many here)
Blaked I could come to Yaroslav too, 3 hours by train from Moscow ?
And I will be happy to meet you and your girls and to get infos about city too, how much do you want ? The subscription here ? I do not like to pay in advance, specially if I never met and I do not know whom I pay.
Guys I will be in Penza for a couple of weeks. Does anybody know if it's a good town for getting a horny pretty GFE? How's women attitude in that town toward foreign men?
Any tip is welcome.
Greetings, guys,
I'm here in Ekaterinburg for two weeks--I found Gordon's which was dead, and the web resources I tried only have russian speaking girls.
Anyone out there have any recent intelligence, the best bars to meet semi's?
Thanks,
RP
Hi,
Unfortunately I have to go to this place, Nizhniy Novgorod for 5 weeks. Is there any action there going on. I heard the place sucks in general. Any good hotels there. I looked on the internet and the only decent hotel looks Nicola House.
How about the central Nizhniy Novgorod hotel. Are there bars near. Does anybody speak English in this town. My Russian ability is zero so I guess I can expect to get ripped off everywhere like in Moscow.
Tiffany
[QUOTE=RoPickle]Greetings, guys,
I'm here in Ekaterinburg for two weeks--I found Gordon's which was dead, and the web resources I tried only have russian speaking girls.
Anyone out there have any recent intelligence, the best bars to meet semi's?
Thanks,
RP[/QUOTE]
There are bars, but I didn't go to any. I am aware they exist :)
The street over near the Park Inn, Mamina-Sibiryaka is a well known walking street.
Was there last month :D
[QUOTE=Member #2096]Hi,
Unfortunately I have to go to this place, Nizhniy Novgorod for 5 weeks. Is there any action there going on. I heard the place sucks in general. Any good hotels there. I looked on the internet and the only decent hotel looks Nicola House.
How about the central Nizhniy Novgorod hotel. Are there bars near. Does anybody speak English in this town. My Russian ability is zero so I guess I can expect to get ripped off everywhere like in Moscow.
Tiffany[/QUOTE]
Its Russia, it can't be so bad for women. For hotels, thats another story.
Will be there in a couple weeks week, drop me a PM if you want to go sight seeing :)
I arrived 7 days ago....just a short report before to write one longer when I will be at home, even if it is a city of 1 milion inhabitants at the beginning of week you get really boring, I met with 5 girsl from mail.ru, but 3 of them are muslims, not easy going, yesterday first time I got sex, 4 times in 12 hours, with a normal girl, amazing, she fucked me non stop, then I got one in brothels for 3500 rubles and one from mail.ru student for 2000 rubles, pretty cheap city,but if you are alone, you have the problem to kill the time, in 6 days I will be back to Moscow and then I think to try Tver' and if I will get boring,maybe Volgograd, if somebody want to join me or he is for business in another city and want just to meet to hunt together write me a PM, for me every city it is the same, I have still 75 days to finish my business Visa.....so far, as Strav said ;) stastlivo
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I arrived 7 days ago....just a short report before to write one longer when I will be at home, even if it is a city of 1 milion inhabitants at the beginning of week you get really boring, I met with 5 girsl from mail.ru, but 3 of them are muslims, not easy going, yesterday first time I got sex, 4 times in 12 hours, with a normal girl, amazing, she fucked me non stop, then I got one in brothels for 3500 rubles and one from mail.ru student for 2000 rubles, pretty cheap city,but if you are alone, you have the problem to kill the time, in 6 days I will be back to Moscow and then I think to try Tver' and if I will get boring,maybe Volgograd, if somebody want to join me or he is for business in another city and want just to meet to hunt together write me a PM, for me every city it is the same, I have still 75 days to finish my business Visa.....so far, as Strav said ;) stastlivo[/QUOTE]Keep fighting the good fight Luka! Killing time is what you have to do in the provinces... in between dating and fucking, try to go to a museum or something every now and then and forget about women for an hour or two... otherwise they'll drive you mad!
Not sure on my schedule next week, but I will keep you informed.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Keep fighting the good fight Luka! Killing time is what you have to do in the provinces... in between dating and fucking, try to go to a museum or something every now and then and forget about women for an hour or two... otherwise they'll drive you mad!
Not sure on my schedule next week, but I will keep you informed.[/QUOTE]
I did not under estimate nothing but to get boring doc.....I thought I could get problem with russian language, finding nice place, finding cheap and great sex....I found everything so easily besides how to kill the time....so funny,so sad.....
Not neither sure if there is a museum here.....never seen such a ugly city with such nice top notch girls, actually I find the prices so cheap, I guess if they are doing me discount or what ? ;)
This evening...for the forum and...yes for myself too, I will test my knowledge of russian trying to find tochka :)))))))))))
19 october I fly to moscow and by train to Tver'...then I am free :)
In 20 and 21 I will be in Sergei Posad (two days before and two after I will be in Moscow): any suggestions about what to c/go/find girls?
Thank you
[QUOTE=Lukasek] I have still 75 days .....so far, as Strav said ;) stastlivo[/QUOTE]
I'm jealous. Two monthes roaming and lingering in provincial Russia is a dream trip indeed. Right on Luka !!
If you could get infos for apartment rentals in Ufa and in the other cities you'll visit (will you hit Krasnodar ?) it woud be great.
....be sure I will not able to resist to stay another month here if I will not find a "girlfriend" or a buddy to hunt together....I am still guess how you did almost 2 months in Tashkent to not get boring and to kill the time, but maybe it is also a matter of weather, it rains every single day here and cold too, I am sure even Ufa in summer it is much more pleasent place where to stay.
Any suggests where I can go not much far from Moscow after Tver' ? Volgograd ?
I did no ask about flat, cause I really scare the owner can come to my flat with a second key when I am in the city, this is why I prefer to pay a bit more, but to feel more safe, even if to take tochka to hotel it is not the easiest thing to do even considering a basic knowledge of russian.....
[QUOTE=Lukasek]....be sure I will not able to resist to stay another month here if I will not find a "girlfriend" or a buddy to hunt together....I am still guess how you did almost 2 months in Tashkent to not get boring and to kill the time, but maybe it is also a matter of weather, it rains every single day here and cold too, I am sure even Ufa in summer it is much more pleasent place where to stay.
Any suggests where I can go not much far from Moscow after Tver' ? Volgograd ?
I did no ask about flat, cause I really scare the owner can come to my flat with a second key when I am in the city, this is why I prefer to pay a bit more, but to feel more safe, even if to take tochka to hotel it is not the easiest thing to do even considering a basic knowledge of russian.....[/QUOTE]To me interesting cities seem Krasnodar, Rostov na Don, Saratov and Ekaterinenburg.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Any suggests where I can go not much far from Moscow after Tver' ? Volgograd ?[/QUOTE]Lukasek, If I were you, and I had the time and a car and was just sort of driving around in the area north of Moscow looking for something to do, I would definately check out Yaroslavl.
удача!
Thanks so maybe around moscow, will be enough cheap sex and not to have to travel for much time...it seems actually ufa tver' on sunday....we will see....finally i am getting used to be in russia,but hey it took me about 10 days...
6:04 in Ufa....my tochka went to his normal job right now, yeah, she works as tochka only when she needs more money,but she has a normal job,she takes care of a company of shops here in Ufa, she has her own car,but not long time ago she bought a flat, so she needs more money than her normal job gives her....but it is another story that belongs to the second part of this so long report....
I will divide it about Ufa in 4 parts,first week,second, brief guide to Ufa and the conclusion....let's start
Monday 6 october
With my driver went to domodedovo...but towards there I asked him, is it a city too domodedovo ? He said yes, so I asked him to go to see it.....once there I thought....tochka is everywhere da ? We stop close to taxi drivers and I asked how much about it, they said that tochka very good is 3000 rubles till morning.....so...so close to Moscow,another way to get cheap sex with a surely friendly girl, I guess if I am the only one going to domodedovo think about it lol
The airport looks new,big,nice but the secure control are nothing....why ? I got a bottle of pepsi cola full of half, i put it inside my hand luggage and the police woman asked me,what is this ? I answered a pepsi a bought a while ago,she said you cannot bring it, I said, hey it is only pepsi, she thought a bit and then said ok......and the woman before me had inside hand luggage a gel shower and they looked at it and said nothing......but yes, they controlled my passport for 5 minutes.....what the naive controls at domodedovo....
Another bad thing, I went to office of s7 airlines to ask how much they charge if i change my return date, the woman told me, I do not speak english, we are in russia i speak russian.......typical russian service,mainly cause even those who do not speak english seems not in the mood to help you, they are so lazy, they hate to work,they want to do nothing more than wait to time pass till they end to work....
Second bad thing, many flights were delayed or deleted I almost scare mine too.....
The flight with s7 was good, the plane looked very new but the food was shit, I took chicken food that taste as rubber....so I only drunk coffee... I am too young to be poisoned lol
I arrived to the privat hotel my friend from Moscow founded me, it is so small has only 6 bedrooms,the price not so cheap, 2700 rubles per day,but very new,actually they built in may and as I noticed immediately it is only 1 minutes from the top notch Klub in the city, Jet Klub.
Fast shower and I was into the klub,there were neither than 10 customer, the disco at third floor closed, I killed the time writing sms to my friends at my home town.....but I immediately understood that even in a capital of 1 million person the problem is to kill the time at the beginning of the week...
When I was in the elevator, it was with me a man that asked me where i am from, when I answered him,he smiled and said, it is my dream to go there, what you do here and so on....he spoke only russian,so i did not understand very well where he works,but he gave me his visit card, he was a son of one politic here in Ufa,he dressed very elegant, he told me,now you are my guest,i show you the city....he took me with his lexus to Akafe, he was drunk, too much and he wanted to pay all for me, at the beginning was nice thing,but then i started to get afraid when he asked me many times in which hotel I live, cause he told me, I will go there and say you are my friend, you will pay nothing.... I asked why ? He told me.....let's say I am friend of Mafia here in Ufa and mafia is friend of me, if you have problem with everybody,just show my visit card and say you are my friend.....
Actually it can seems funny to you now sitting in your home, but for me it was a bit different, together a unknown man totally drunk without know if i could trust him or not, he wanted me to get drunk too, i said i have problem to my liver i cannot drink, he said, you answer to me no ? So you are not my friend and if you are not my friend, so you are as my enemy, nobody in Ufa tell me no.....so I drunk a bit but I was already thinking how to leave him in friendly way,cause the center of Ufa is not so big and I did not want to meet him again.
So I went to toilet and stayed there about 30 minutes smoking a couple fo cigarettes, when I got out, i told him I vomit and it was to be very bad, it was only a lie obviously,but he realized I could vomit maybe inside his Lexus too going to anoter one klub,so in a while he told me, i take you to your hotel...the problem i did not want to make him to know where my hotel is......so i said to him, leave me in front of baskortostan hotel, i live there. He did and i only went to lobby bar and after 5 minutes i was out in taxi going to my real hotel.......unbelievable as something so innocent as to start talking with somebody can change in bad way when you are far from home....so far i still no more see him and i hope to no see him,even if i promised him to call him. He asked many times to get my telephone number, i gave him a false one.
Maybe he was not really dangerous for me, he could easily give me girls and whatever i need, but who knows, when he said he was friend of mafia, i thought no need to get in trouble for pussy,specially 4.000km from home alone.....
Tuesday 7 october
I slept till afternoon cause it rains all the day, at the 19:00 I met with one of my 22 contacts from mail.ru. I got a second meeting at 21:00, so I said to the first one I was tired even if she wanted to go to dance together, but the second one was much more nice and younger but.....once I was in the taxi going to meet the second one, she wrote me sms she wanted to meet but she no more cannot....shit !
So I was alone in tinkoff with as usually at the beginning of the week only couple of customers.
Luckily another one conctact I wrote she wrote me asking what I am doing....she told me she cannot meet with me cause she worked...I asked where...she said i am stripper in night club.....what a nice thing LOOOOL, she wrote me the address and i went there. The place is the objeckt,every driver knows it, it is a small brothel, the girls dance and you decide if you put inside her slip money or not.
I drunk 3 beers and I took champange, an italian one, Gancia Asti, that I know very well, actually very good one and I spent only 2100 rubles.
Before to go I thought....shit,but where are the bedroom here ?
So I called my contact from mail.ru and she told me,that the price for 60 minutes of sex is 3500 rubles, but she is the nicest one and she wanted from me 10.000......I thought, let's play with another one and not with me, I called the manager and I asked what the fuck is the price here, she said 3500 rubles, I told that one wanted from me 10 thousands, she immediately went to talk with her and back to me said,now you can get her for usual price.
I said,i do not want her anymore,do you have a thin blonde or not here ? The manager told me,wait, I will call friend to bring one for you.
I drunk a coca cola then after 15 minutes arrived a cute blond, I paid the 3500 rubles and once in bedroom she told me everything obviously is with rubber.....do you believe I went till Ufa to get oral with condom ??? LOL
I told her, from the 3500 i paid, i guess you get no more than 1500rubles, here you have another 1500 rubles and maybe i give then my mobile phone phone and tomorrow in the afternoon you can get again 3000 rubles....so the oral will be how ?
She smiled and I got a very nice oral, just a ordinary sex and went to sleep......as second day not bad,even if....it rains non stop.....
Wensday 8 october
Finally my best contact from mail.ru arrived to Ufa I met with her, 28yo 170cm 54kg, very nice, she is a teacher in university, we wrote daily mails for one month, she was my best contact, almost the only one reason I went in the middle of nowhere called Ufa.....we meet and went to tinkoff where i got the feeling she saw me as a friend.....nice conversation,but at 22:00 she told me she went to sleep. I was pretty disappointed,but ok, I went again to jet klub where they already took me as good guest,few beers and in bedroom try to sleep with enough bad-sad mood.
Thursday 9 october
I met at the morning with the first contact and at same time I wrote sms to another 10 differents contacts, half of them answered me, some said no time to meet, some maybe next week.....I very soon realized you need many conctacts, cause once you are at your home, they have no problem to give you their phone number but once you are in the city, they are afraid or simple they played with you and maybe they have boyfriend or so on.
I met then with my best contact, she showed me shopping center MIR where are really tons of nice girls, but at 19:00 my best contact told me she went to sleep, when she said goodbye i tried to kiss her but she said it is too soon........what the fuck ? 1 month of daily mails, she thought I came till Ufa only for her and she played as princess.....i was so pissed off.....I went to internet coffee center and I connected to skype where I found on line another contact from Ufa, I wrote with her and in 30 minutes we met, she took me to disco Car-men where they plays latin-america music, she was friendly and nice, but a bit overweight for me, so once out of disco, I said to her goodbye and went to check the lobby bar at hotel baskortostan where there were only 4 old pro.
So again to Jet Klub where I saw there was very strict face control, the big man at the door said no to 4 nice girls, so I was afraid no disco for me tonight.....after a while, he obviously said not to me too, when a woman close to him,the owner or something like that told to him:” on uzhe byl zdhes” ( he already was here), I smiled and I got into....from that moment I think I was one of the few customer that no more had to “fight” the face control even with nike tennis shoes,in the afternoon, but ok, they saw me many times with Prada at the evening so they forgive me my casual dressing at afternoon lol
The disco was crowded of nice girls, but I felt really lonely and sad mood for the stupid cold behaviour of my best contact, so I went to sleep and it was a very big mistake, but...if you are with a buddy everything is nice, if alone,it is hard sometimes...
Friday 10 october
At the morning I got a sms from my best contact, she wrote me these exactly words:
“I like you Luke,as my best friend or my brother,you are very close to me.But I think it is not enough for you.As for me i am happy at this level”
Useless I said to her many bullshit, she told it is not strange I wanted to make love with her, but so far as she is muslim she never go to make love in such little time, useless i said i came till Ufa only for her....she said me, let's to meet, next time in december of january you will come to Ufa again we will MAYBE sleep together......what ???????
I smiled so much i guess they listen me till Vladivostok.......golden rule, never trust you are gonna to put your tongue inside a pussy till you will not really with a tongue under her clitoris....no matter if you wrote with her for 1 day or 30 days.....nothing is sure and they care nothing to make you do 8.000km.......so i simple delete her fucking number and tried to afford my obviously sad mood....
In the afternoon I met with another one in tinkoff and at the evening i planned to meet another one from the always mail.ru in jet disco.
We met at restaurant and we drunk really a lot, she spoke only russian, but as I noticed, my russian got day after day very good, i no more spent time to meet or to to search somebody who speaks english in ufa, it is only a mission impossible, better to use energy to speak russian directly.
After a couple of hours with her, she said what you want to do Luke ?
I said...hey I like you so much....why we do not take a shower together ? LOL
She said, it is ok for me, but i have no work, i study at university, i am only 19yo and i need money, is it a problem for you to give me 2.000 rubles ? I thought.....with 54 euro I never buy a pizza in Moscow here i can have sex with her.....maybe i get very boring in ufa but sometimes i love this city :)
It was just sex,good but nothing very wonderful, i just write that she wanted to do oral with condom and it was enough +500 rubles to convince her to do it without.....very expensive city LOL
Saturday 11 october
I met for second time with another muslim, here many muslims, nothing against them, but the muslims girls even if they drink alcool as men do they are not easy going,specially baskiria and tartars.
I suggest her to go to sauna, she said,ok but hey we will dress bathing suite,ok,no problem even if i was pretty sure my dick could jump easily out of it LOL
It was sauna in street zorge and name kul tau, very nice sauna, we got 2 hours of privat sauna,new sauna,not old type, with television,karaoke and swimming pool with cold water and beers and ikra for 2500 rubles.....i think a very good price.
We did couple of minutes of sauna,swimming pool and again sauna, after one hour in swimming pool we started to kissing very passionate, i got immediately dick free from bathing suite, for a couple of minutes she did me a nice handjob but when she realized she was gonna to get totally naked in a while, she told me, we are here for sauna, not for sex......shiiiiiiiiit ! Maybe i had to be stronger, i do not know.....
(p.s. Once at home i will post the photo,actually with my laptop wind msi i have linux and i do not know how to resize them....just to make you see the nice sauna we got...)
After sauna we went to restaurant mokko,close to hotel baskortostan, out of restaurant in the street we kissed very passionate and she asked me where we go now, i said to her, to my hotel so i show you the photo in my pc....she said....it is too soon for me to have sex with you (and I got a sort of deja-vu.......),she told me....maybe next time you will come to Ufa......i was really sad as a dog....you invest time and they are so hard to get to bed, i thought i choose the wrong city, mainly muslims city,or what was wrong with me ?!??!
I said to her good night and went to jet disco, i feel now sad,cause the disco was again full of top notch girls,surely many of them pro too,but dear friends......i felt sad and in bad mood for to receive again no,so i just drunk couple of beers and went to sleep....now i regret so much,cause here the disco get crowded only 2 days per week and i cannot miss these days or let such girls to make me feel sad and tired when there is so much stuff to work with in disco....but ok,we learn from our mistakes right ?
This is the first week, the second one,obviously was much much better, but now time to go out......i think this night Lukasek will gonna to meet no one muslim,only a russian girls lol
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Any suggests where I can go not much far from Moscow after Tver' ? Volgograd ?[/QUOTE]
From what I've been told Volgograd is not that nice. It stretches about 80 kilometers along the Volga (it's the most extended city in Russia), which must be annoying for strolling around, dating, clubbing, ect.
I'd second Hecker about Krasnodar.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I am still guess how you did almost 2 months in Tashkent to not get boring [/QUOTE]
Tashkent is a monger paradise added up with a VERY enjoyable city. I could very easily have spent six monthes there. :)
PS : Thanks for the day-by-day reports. It's quite an entertaining reading.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]
This is the first week, the second one,obviously was much much better, but now time to go out......i think this night Lukasek will gonna to meet no one muslim,only a russian girls lol[/QUOTE]
You are a brave man indeed. Most of us (me) who venture that far into Russia have the comfort of company paid expenses. You are to be congratulated on your courage and determination!!
Cannot wait for the next chapter!
[QUOTE=Jake993]You are a brave man indeed. Most of us (me) who venture that far into Russia have the comfort of company paid expenses. You are to be congratulated on your courage and determination!!
Cannot wait for the next chapter![/QUOTE]I second that notion Luka, you are a true ISG commando!
[QUOTE=Prosal]What you intend to do is the pionner monger mission.
Provincial Russia is n°1 , even if I see myself on a Sao Paulo Litoral Norte beach. Anyway it could very well be Krasnodar. A single search on mail.ru with "Krasnodar - women - aged 18/25 - with photos" gives an insane numbers of outrageously gorgeous women.
Report and take photos ok, or Mollha Bez, Minister of Deontology (and occasionnaly renowned Climatologist) gonna report you to Jackson for the Banned Users Hall of Shame for deficiency in monger's obligations. ;)
[/QUOTE]
At long last, I am finally able to actually report from the field, as I bought a laptop and got wired here in the depths of candy land, so the obvious advantage is that I can give blow by blow reports as they unfold, rather than have to draw from foggy memories.
So today is a perfect opportunity to punch up a field report of interesting circumstances, the kind that only happen when a monger is on a hot streak.
However, first I must comment on Pro-sally's advice to Luk-wait-a-sek and his own adventures. Pro, I will whole heartedly agree with you about Sao Paulo beaches, there is certainly not another place on earth that could be as much fun. But,...your comment about province cities mail.ru list of women, is really misleading. Yes, there are more interesting ladies posting their fotos on the sites, but if you think that hooking up with them is easy, you are mistaken. Don't over-react now, because I am not saying that this method doesn't work, it does, and I use it myself, but it is not anywhere as easy, as you make it sound. It takes a lot of prep work, and time, to work those contacts into actual monger sessions, and I do mean A LOT! That's not to say that one can get very lucky on occaision, I have also been very lucky SOMETIMES, but I can't say this is reliable. In fact, nothing out here is reliable.
And that leads to my report today. Which is about what makes the provinces so interesting. and that is, THE UNEXPECTED! As I've already explained in PM's to Luk, my first 3 days were nothing but perfect. Everything was working, and I had yet to strike out, or have a bad experience. But then I hit the wall, and had 2 days of mostly disappointments, that is, I met new girls, but was not able to score. Hopefully I will get another shot at them, but as I said, nothing here is certain, except that you can't count on anything going right.
So lo and behold, with nothing really going right, my phone rings today at noon, and a girl says, "Hello! My name is Ira! Do you remember me?", and naturally I must say, "Yes, of course! How are you?"
The problem is that I have absolutely no clue who the hell she is, since I must have met at least 10 Ira's in the last few years. So then she tells me that she got my number from Sveta, who told her to call me. Well that's great, since I must have met at least 20 Sveta's, and again, I have even less of a clue what she is talking about now. Then she says that she and Leanna will be coming over to see me, and here we go, back on the candy land Merry-go-round!
Even after they get here, I have no clue who they are, but after a few minutes the fog clears. Turns out that in 2006, I called an escort service and asked for 18 year old students, and after sending me none for the whole first week, I just decided to try again on Saturday afternoon, and they sent over 3 girls, all friends that "work" together, though they had only started a week earlier. They were one of the most interesting groups of girls I had ever met, but I completely lost touch with them last year, because they quit the agency after only a month, and then changed all their SIM cards, so I had no luck at all finding them last year. So somehow, I spoke to Sveta this year, though I really don't remember, and she knew how to reach Ira, and told her I was here visiting.
The only down side was that there were only 2 of them this time, and that Leanna didn't look like she just fell off the hay wagon, like she did in 2006.
Were they still a lot of fun, OH YES!!! Lesbi-show actions to follow, after I get home and foto-shop.
Now to get back to Prosal. I wouldn't really say that Luk's trip is the "very core of elite" mongering missions. I mean sure, its important, and its a big part of what makes ISG interesting, but there's not much "elite" about Ufa or places like that, and from what he's told me, its really only been average for what could be phenomenal. That is, he's not really consistently scoring the
9's and 10's that are out there, because of a lack of very relaible "elite" connections. Knowing the top 1 or 2 mamachka's in the city, that always have the hottest student semi-pro's mobile numbers ready at hand, or stumbling into a group of students out to cash in on sponsorships, is nothing short of hitting the lottery. It can be done, but you gotta be really lucky, or have the first connections to make the next connections.
I'ver been very lucky to hit those jackpots from time to time over the years, you've all seen proof of that, but doing that consistently in a short time period, NO WAY, JOSE'!!! I'm still trying. Every damn fucking day!
Last but not least, Pro, what in the hell is Deontology? Is that the sudy of Deion Sanders, or teeth? And what the hell does that have anything to do with mongering, fotos, or weather? Jeez, sometimes you don't make any fucking sense.
Tomorrow I will write more, now a few lines.....first of all thanks very much friends...mainly to forgive my mistakes in english...that I learned at school ;)
Actually after sauna with the tochka of 3 days ago.....it was more sex than sauna,total price 1480 rubles.... not bad :)
Now in Jet Klub, she is at telephone with her friend and asked me, what are you writing now...just a mail to my collegue from work LOL
Now after a sushi dinner and enough drunk we had reserved a bowling at second floor then another night of pure sex.....total damage 3000 rubles for her.....and she is a truly 9' but the only 9' I got here, so this is why for this price I do not let her to go ;) bbbj and anal as well and today she drove her car and I saw almost all the city.....such an experience I do not can have at home.....I cannot wait to taste again her pussy....the bad way ? I almost falled in love.....funny isn't it ?
Ok do zavtra, seichas stastlivo kak kharosy Strav zkazi....
Lukasek
Good job Luka
Love to see dedication at work.
Looks like the trip has so far worked out well.
Guido
[QUOTE=Lukasek]
Now after a sushi dinner and enough drunk we had reserved a bowling at second floor then another night of pure sex.....total damage 3000 rubles for her.....and she is a truly 9' but the only 9' I got here, so this is why for this price I do not let her to go ;) bbbj and anal as well and today she drove her car and I saw almost all the city.....such an experience I do not can have at home.....I cannot wait to taste again her pussy....the bad way ? I almost falled in love.....funny isn't it ?
Ok do zavtra, seichas stastlivo kak kharosy Strav zkazi....
Lukasek[/QUOTE]
How quickly things change.
A week ago you were ready to slit your wrists from loneliness and now you are in Provincalka heaven. And that's a relief because I was ACTUALLY starting to feel bad for encouraging you to go!!!!
Do any of you know about this town? I've had an email correspondant who lives there, and I'm thinking about coming to her town to meet her.
Are there good hotels/restaurants? If thing don't go well with my email friend (who appears very beautiful in photos she's sent), will I be lonely?
Luka,
молодец! Great report, I'm sure we are all looking forward to the next chapter.
But what does it mean... tinkoff ??
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Luka,
But what does it mean... tinkoff ??[/QUOTE]
Tinkoff has a great brew pub restaurant in Ufa. Great place to eat and drink and meet people.
[url]http://www.tinkoff.ru/[/url]
ochyen intyeryesna...
This is definitely not your babushka's kitchen. Civilizatsia prisholl, even to Ufa.
[QUOTE=Jake993]Tinkoff has a great brew pub restaurant in Ufa. Great place to eat and drink and meet people.
[url]http://www.tinkoff.ru/[/url][/QUOTE]Good tip. And since Russki babes like beer (well at least most do) now and then, it's also a good date place.
BTW: there are also Tinkhoffs that I've been to in Moscow, St.Petersburg, Ekaterinburg, Sochi... so it is a chain by now. There are probably more as well.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Tinkoff ; it's also a good date place.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.tinkoff.ru/index.php?id=54[/url]
Scanning the menu gives a good idea, for someone like me who (I'm ashamed to admit) has never been to Russia, of the costs in a "hip" pub/cafe in a provincial city.
Starters 7/12 €, main courses 15/25 €, a glass of wine or a cocktail 8 € +, ect. That means that a dinner with a thursty dyev costs easily 100 € +.
Shit, it's not that cheap. I expected lower prices in provinces. The most expensive and trendiest cafe in Tashkent (JSmockers) was about 1/3 of those prices.
[QUOTE=Prosal][url]http://www.tinkoff.ru/index.php?id=54[/url]
Scanning the menu gives a good idea, for someone like me who've never been to Russia, of the costs in a "hip" pub/cafe in a provincial city.
Starters 7/12 €, main courses 15/25 €, a glass of wine or a cocktail 8 € +, ect. That means that a dinner with a thursty dyev costs easily 100 € +.
Shit, it's not that cheap. I expected lower prices in provinces. The most expensive and trendiest cafe in Tashkent (JSmockers) was about 1/3 to 1/4 of those prices.[/QUOTE]The Tinkhoff menu is pretty standard in terms of pricing almost anywhere in major cities at "in" places. In fact, many not so "in" places have adopted this price structure as well. Tinkhoffs may be slightly higher in prices, but not much. Of course there are "demokratichny" places with lower prices as well. Girls like the expensive places obviously, especially those who don't go to them often. Personally I do like to treat a girl to something special as long as the rules are still being dictated by me (to a point of course) and usually the bill doesn't go above 50 €. Usually. :)
Perhaps the coming economic crisis (I am no guru but I do expect things to slow economically in Russia... in fact they already have) will bring prices down a bit. Maybe not.
[quote=grapelli]do any of you know about this town? i've had an email correspondant who lives there, and i'm thinking about coming to her town to meet her.
are there good hotels/restaurants? if thing don't go well with my email friend (who appears very beautiful in photos she's sent), will i be lonely?[/quote]been a while since i've been there, but there used to be two good clubs: solnce and fresh 44. several alright hotels, the best bang for the book used to be hotel vladimir (best location, not horrible prices). zolotoye kolco (golden ring) hotel has a strip club and dance club inside, but not good prices.
it really amazes me how expensive provincial hotels are sometimes. they are easily more expensive (in nominal terms, let alone ppp) than hotels in similar cities in america.
there are a couple other shady hotels, but i wouldn't advise them. you could probably find an apartment pretty easily at the train station.
Well, I just had to re-boot when my mobilny rang at 3am and I accidentally leaned on my keyboard and switced it to cyrillic, and then I couldn't switch it back!
So I lost a lengthy rant about fur burgers and such, leave it to say that my complaints can be wrapped up into one comment. Why has the very special thread that represents possibly the most delicious and responsive pussy across the globe turned its back on the very reason why we're here. Well, its obvious that you guys just don't have any to talk about at the moment.
Leave it to Bez, to bring back a little focus here, and just profess how persistance and luck can really pay off. While I had been working on getting a few good girls to meet, I really had no idea that practically ALL of the really intersting ones were not going to pan out, and though I spent a good month ahead on working the sites, it was the next to last contact I made, just a week before coming, that will end up being far and above the rest. And then to give it the most delightful twist of fate that fate can twist things up, I spent a good 90 minutes standing in the cold at night, otuside by the metro station with Marina, because she wanted to wait there, instead of sitting in a nice cozy cafe drinking wine.
She was, of course, waiting for her padruga, litlle sunshine-bunny Ola, who has really blown my gaskets out and fried my hard-drive. I have to say that Marina was easy to hook up with, it only took a couple of calls, and maybe my luck that I arrived on Saturday, but after we met and I asked her Lets go to cafe?. she insisted that we wait "only a few minutes" for her friend to hop up the steps and onto the sidewalk. I guess I didn't mind that much, since Marina is the very first half Russian-half Yehiptin girl I've met.
When she said that she's half from yehiptia, it took me a bit to figure out that's Egypt, (Duh!), and she was pretty solid looking, that is 5'7, and 120, with 90/60/90 curves. Dangerous in her own right, so i figured, hell ,maybe her friend is even hotter.
When Ola bunny hopped up, I wasn't even sure at first in her coat, and even later in the cafe with her party skirt and dark leggings, but tonight, when she returned for round 2, well, I have to say she will end up being an all timer. I did not bring the download cords, so you will have to wait, but I am pretty certain that there is not much sweeter gushy stuff out there, than what she's walking aoround with in her little jeans.' She is by-god an amazing, little energizer bunny.
So that's my contribution to get back to the subject matter at hand here, its just how life's funny turns lead to rainbows like this girl. I didnt have to freeze my nuts off out in the chilly weather, but Marina couldnt have been sure that I wouldn't want her padruga. Oh yes, don't think I would let my fellow mongers down, I DID go out with Marina the next day. She would have been enough in her own right, pretty wild and exotic, but really would have been amazing if she had a small or tiny frame, which sadly she did not. But again, like I'll say again and again, her padruga will probably make up for ANY let downs I have on this whole trip.
Foto will follow, please wait, :D
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]When she said that she's half from yehiptia, it took me a bit to figure out that's Egypt, (Duh!)
So that's my contribution [/QUOTE]Nice one Bez. Even if 99% of readers don't understand your report, at least you had a good time with a chubby girl or two. Um, I think. ;)
Incidentally, I'll be be in Yehiptia next week - I hope to send some naughty postcards and a few reports (in English, Bez). And they won't involve pyramids or mummies (well, maybe mummies).
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Luka,
молодец! Great report, I'm sure we are all looking forward to the next chapter.
But what does it mean... tinkoff ??[/QUOTE]
Tinkoff is actually a great place for beer, good food and finding a new pair of legs.
I always enjoy the location in Piter. My understanding is they are all owned and run by the government.
As to costs, stick with fresh brewed beer and the lower priced menu items and there is good value for what they offer. The key in Russia and most of the world is to not order imported liquor or wines. Drink local beer, vodka or some of the Russian red wines.
Their beers come in filtered or unfiltered versions and there are many made on site to choose from. The white unfiltered is Damn good, beats the shit out of the Baltica beers so prevalent in Russia.
As to the Devs, my experience is they ask if its ok if they order the fillet or whatever.
Some guys love to spend to impress. I prefer to find the best value for my rubles whether shopping food or pussy.
Nice environment, entertainment and in Piter I have seen many pairs of legs looking for Ruble support. Check it out early evening and you will see pairs of women having a light bite to eat before they go in search of a Wallet for the evening.
Guido88
[QUOTE=Jake993]How quickly things change.
A week ago you were ready to slit your wrists from loneliness and now you are in Provincalka heaven. And that's a relief because I was ACTUALLY starting to feel bad for encouraging you to go!!!![/QUOTE]
Lukaseks metamorphosis was an interesting one. I too was getting concerned.
The caterpillar has gone from butterfly to a triple horned horndog with 3 balls.
What is interesting that Lukas exploits in the provinces sound a lot like Moscow and Piter were just a few short years ago.
Shhhh...... Don't tell anybody.
The only way not to have a great time in Russia is to stay home.
Show up with a few Rubles in your pocket and things will happen.
Guido88
Well, you certainly can NOT say that marina was chubby in the least! When I say, 90/60/90, there is NOTHIN chubby about that, since as you all know, that's the ruski equivalent of 36-24-36, and 5'7" and 120 is NOT chubby, but it certainly is fit and strong for a tall girl.
Anyway, it was just to say, that to start out with something so exotic, reminding me of one other super 10, well even I can say, 12, which was the incredible half russian-half Sudanese 18 year old Sabina I had in Odessa for 3 sessions, this Egyptian Kleopatra Marina, was very interesting. But in comparison, her padruga is so amazing, its just ironic and the coolest part of mongering here, to stumble upon the UNEXPECTED jackpot, with lotter-winning luck.
So forget about all that now, because another gold mine is heading over for a breakfast party, Leanna and HER padruga are due in 15 mnutes. Gotta go!
Bez you dog, you snuck off to the motherland and didn't even tell us. ;)
As always with little time, battery fo pc last only 90 mintues and i have to find info where to put in couple of week my dick to eat ;) write e mails and to keep on posting.....thanks really, it is a pleasure to write a report for us.....it is only a pity english is not my language or it could be even more nice to read it....specially cause i forgot to take english dictionary to ufa to write my report to the forum LOL
Yes, thanks Jake for encouraged me and to guido as well....last time we saw was at tinkoff...i am at tinkoff too right now...but i do not see you LOL come please :)
The problem here it is it took much more time to get used than i thought, besides this. as you can easily read in the second part......i was up till 6 o clock this morning to finish it....everything can happen if you are a bit brave......but once you get used....you can get the best memories of your life here.....
When everything happened and I mean really everything......
I hope you enjoy it....
Sunday 12 october
Let's say this day started in the worst way, I did not mention that when I left home I got a bit of tonsillitis that antibiotics were not able to heal, surely for the many marlboro I smoked and all the cold I took, together I drunk and slept very few hours....so this sunday at the morning I had surely fever, so try to guess my mood.....I almost wanted to go back home, cause I did not got the success I thought....I looked out of window and....as usually it rains...it was the moment when really a buddy is a treasure.....hey guido88 where you was ??? :)
Soon I understood that I had to not think I felt sick, just to go out of the hotel, I wrote to the oldest contact, 37yo but great body and very friendly, we met in mokko restaurant and then went to Jet Klub where I tried to forget how much shitty I felt, we drunk enough and danced even more, then went to second floor and played bowling.....3 strikes in 5 shoots and I do no remember the last time I played bowling....in the elevator we kissed so good...we were out inside her Matiz and she said she could not drive drunk to home.....ooppsss....hey why you do not sleep in my bedroom? She said,maybe I take another room, I said, yeeeeees, why not,but come to see mine,maybe you will like it and no need to take another one.....lol.....do you believe after 1 minutes inside the bedroom we were already in shower washing each other with my tongue on her nipples and fingering her ass?
4 condoms from 3:00am till 11:00am.....this is why I love russia....when it should works, often works nothing and when you are sick in your bedroom asking to yourself what the fuck you are doing here so far from your home town, it can happens that everything changes in a while and from hell you find yourself in the heaven so happy because you was able, or maybe she only allowed you, to make love with a person totally unknown till a couple of hours before......Russia and you say everything !
Monday 13 october
Nothing to say, on monday in Ufa you feel lonely as a dog in the middle of desert....it rains....something new,yeah ? lol
I slept all the day but finally I started to feel much better in my throat. At evening to disco Carmen, just me and barman,so far as he was not my type lol I went to Jet Klub nobody too, directly to bedroom looking a film in my computer, so sad, but ok, I got such a nice sunday...I coudl afford to see for the 10 times the Bourne identity lol
Tuesday 14 october till friday 17 early morning.....
At the afternoon I asked to hotel to call the local company of taxi driver....why I did not stop a car in the street ? Because I had to be sure the driver was working for a company cause I had to really trust him in the evening.....the second thing I asked him after I was into his car, was if he knows tochka...he said yes, I said, give me your phone number, we will see soon....for sure !
At evening I called him and I started to negotiate......when I want I am able to be a very cheap bastard.....I got:....1 hour 200 rubles, no matter if he drives 60 minutes or if he waits me.....friends, 200 rubles are 5,40 euro.....I felt really bravo bravo lol
We went to strip klub Oasis, cause I want to drink some beers and see some pussy to dance before to go to tochka, but once there he, after a short look to the customers, called me out and told me that there were there 2 bad men,bandits, and his suggest was to leave, maybe to find another place, cause,he said,it was not good to be the only one foreigner there, cause maybe they were drunk and start to speak with me....so far as I paid him by time and not by km he drove, so ok, I believed him and we left,specially remembering my bad experience of the first day....
I asked him to go directly to tochka, the first place was....in front of Prospekt Klub, there were 7 girls about a 5', but a nice 6,5 blonde thin that....wanted only 3000 rubles till morning and it was the 23:00........the same price as in Moscow,right ? :))
I wanted to see another tochka, cause as I saw with Guido88 one of the things I like about tochka is the search....specially with such a cheap taxi lol.....so he parked the car in the park far about hundreds of meters from the main street and started to make some phone calls.
The place was very dark, we were under snow, first time I did not see rain.....and I started really to be a bit afraid....ok the only good thing, really very good, I was enough wise to took a taxi from a taxi company and at my hotel they knew it,but hey I was alone in a park with a russian twice bigger than me and waiting for other russians....they could easily with a knife or gun get all my money and passport and surely I was not waiting for tochka with only 200 rubles,they knew it.....I felt a bit nervous....but he was just a normal car stopped in the street I think I was afraid....
The first car arrived after more than 30 minutes, I almost got frozen....I asked thin, young and blonde and try to guess..... arrived 2 fat ugly, I got pissed off, waiting for the second car, even worst.....shit !
I told him, hey, next car or nice girls or from tomorrow I will find a new driver, he said he was asking for young and nice, but they took what they want....and it was truth,cause I understood what he said to telephone.....molodoya,krasiva,chudinka blonde....the 4 words I learned as first during my home self made lesson course of russian lol....
In the third car there was....now I know very well....the person making my coming to Ufa the best experience I could do....a princess....dark long hair, about 160cm for 46kg as she said me later....but even if she looked very cute, as it is regarding a Ferrari, the look is the “worst” thing, cause only when you start the engine with the horse you are gonna to get the idea of which kind of UNIQUE diamond you bought.....but in that moment I still did not know this and I was afraid she was very nice but maybe cold one and if later in the bed she said me, for example only covered bj, she could kill my mood...but ok, I was selfish and proud and I took her, the best looking even if the other two looked much more friendly.
We went to buy some beers and we were in my hotel where I showed her for about half hour the photos of my life and my hobbies (bycicle,motorbike,cooking..) I have in my computer, drinking and smoking....I do not know what was happened, maybe she only realized I am a normal man and I guess a tochka do not see often normal person,specially foreigners in Ufa, however born something between us....she went to shower and then me, naked in the bedroom instead to start to have sex, we just looked each other in the eyes in silence, for a couple of minutes,such a strong feeling of deja-vu I am sure she felt the same......I liked her so much, I was thinking when she told me the same in the same moment....I thought what the fuck is happens here, for a while I was afraid she put some drugs in my glass, cause I felt so good, but it was only her beauty and my truly desire to make love with her to make me feel soooo good...we started to kiss so slowly, so sweety, so passionate......the first thing I wanted was to give her as soon as possible a deep, strong and beautiful orgasm, I took care in the best way my experience of 34yo man teached me,to her nipples, touching softly all her body and let her clitoris to the last part.....but when I start the daty I realized how in deep need of licking she was, by how she reacted to cunnilinguus I got really the feeling noboby licked her in the last century.....
Totally shaved pussy with the taste that only a girl of 20yo has in her young fresh pussy,not the taste of old chicken and it was enough strange, cause she is 28yo even if I had to look to her ID to believe her,cause her body simply has no mistakes....however as I seen even later, to lick her was one of the best thing I could do to her, she enjoyed it sosss much and me too that I was asking to myself......who is getting pleasure here ?
I could write a book from now about her and I guess if could be interesting for one of my friends here......so, to make very long enough short....I am almost in love and “maybe” she is too.....and for everybody who has no idea of who Lukasek is, I say that I got many girls in my life, I am the guy you will never introduce to your beloved sister....I mention only I went 70 times in 10 years to CZ and SK and in every travel I got at least 3-4 girls, once even 10 girls in 12 days...so I am no more virgin LOL....but she is really special one and the kind of sex we had I neither had with my ex girlfriend....and I guess if I will have again such high quality.....
To make you understand better I tell you yesterday night we were 2souls/1body from evening almost till morning.....hey and no viagra LOL.....I really I am not able to get enough of her, I look to every part of her body and I have to touch it softly or to to kiss it.....her so little and sexy feet, just a 35, her ass, her so live nipples, her body has no one half kg of fat mass, she is perfect beside she is not much tall, but I am not tall too, so it is more than ok, also her pussy, tight and its taste.....the taste and the smell give the spring to the rainny october in Ufa.....the juice of her pussy was something my tongue never drunk....their hands.....it is enough just a while her hand touch me softly and I got the kind of erection you can play golf with your dick....
The second day, actually wensday she directly told me, she needs money, so or I pay her or she has to go to work, she was enough sad when she told me and for the price she wanted, I can easily believe her, 3.000 rubles, I wrote emails to many friends,some members here too lol and to my home town, asking suggests about what to do, obviously I got disappointed when she asked me money, but she has to challenge with something, the problem of money, that me as a lucky man born in the west europe I never had to faced......I thought, she is only using me, but who I am to judge her ?
Let's also make clear that she is not a really tochka as in moscow, she does not stay all the night outside waiting for the monger, actually when I was in the park waiting for the third car the boss called her, she was at home sleeping and he went to take her at home, so she is a semi-pro,but let's to call her....mypro lol, also she has normal work, she lives alone in her flat and has her own car, she showed me in her mobile the videos of her holiday in a lake close to Ufa.....more a normal girl than a prostitute....
However dear friends, 3.000 rubles is nothing for me and so far with her I have the best time I had with a woman and so far as I like her soooo much, why to argue ? Am I here to get pure fun and to feel very good or not ?
Yes I would like she could take me as his boydriend, but till 3 days ago I was in the park in the middle of night paying a man to buy.......her body...she saw so many customers that she needs more time than me to believe....maybe something was born......maybe not...who knows...I guess only God knows...
Sex was wonderful, really, covered sex, but besides it, we did everything and she enjoy anal more than me....and it is to say everything......
Her bbbj is so good that last night when she sucked me and with the other hand she did me massage to my balls with a crem....at the beginning I neither noticed she put a finger inside my ass....so nice was everything, I think I could allow her to do whatever she wants with my body and it was only the second time I got a prostate massage in whole my life......and it is reciprocal, cause I see too, in the sex she allows me everything sure I will do to her only what she will really likes.....
Now she is at her normal job and I smile, cause everything is here so funny and strange....Ufa.....from the hell of tonsillitis and fever to the heaven of the best sexual experience of my life with the great chance I am in love and maybe she is too.....Am I naive, maybe you could say, ok but we are just two persons try to be happy...if I or if we are only live into a dream, what is bad about it ? Sometimes is nice even dream an impossibile dream, this is what life is made too....
Yesterday at Jet Klub we were as 2 young lovers, the only two who did not care about the russia winning against finland at football.....kissing each other non stop....it was from 15 years ago when I went to college I did not enjoy so much the only french kissing....in the last year I got so “ruined” and used to sex as everybody at my age having so many girls, I stop to enjoy so much kiss a woman, cause everytime I did I was only waiting for bbbj....but she is so sweet I could kiss her for years....
Today we go to sauna together....I am sure we will have sex even there, even if I would like really to relax and to enjoy to be with her.....no matter where...just to be with her...close to her, the place is no more important....
.......
Unbelievable as the things can change so fast here......for the second time, but hey so far as I was in heaven...guess where I am now ? LOL
Now it is friday morning at 4:33 am.....I am here keep on writing the report in my bedroom with her sleeping just a few meters from me...and we did not have sex......yes ISG member...you read right...no sex and no joke here....a very pissed off Lukasek.....
Back a couple of hours ago to make you understand everything....in the sauna obviously I took pictures of her,she did not want, but I was able to take one of her naked,but it was just as a joke, for a while she seemed pissed off,but soon we keep on enjoy sauna....and then we went to see couple of shopping center and after a long search she was able to find me some postcards too, then we went to Jet Klub to have dinner, play bowling and then to my hotel where she was a bit cold and I did no understand why.
She started to write many sms,honestly too much.... one after another and I kissed her, but she reacted very cold and still more or less I do not have idea why....I went to bed just to listen mp3 ipod waiting for her to finish to use her 2 mobile phones, then she went to shower and I thought ok,let's wait again.....after some minutes she did not get out of the bathroom, I stop to listen ipod and I hear the water of the shower but she was speaking to her mobile !!!!!
.....what the fuck she went to shower to call somebody ???
Obviously cause she knows I understand enough good russian and obviusly she did very good the trick cause I was not able to understand nothing for the noise of water.....she got out of bathroom and I waited to see what she did.....
She sit down and smoked cigarettes, I let her to believe I was sleeping, just closed eyes but very open ears....to see what the fuck she thought to do and after a while I listen the noise of little engine opening the zoom of my digital camera.....she was searching for the her only one foto naked.....I was smarter cause when she was in shower and I took off the memory card and hide it, so she played couple of minutes with camera but useless.I felt so sad....in the middle of night a woman that was fucked from only God knows how many and which kind of men cause she had the only unlucky to born in Baskiria and not in west europe was so desperately playing useless with a camera just to try to realize as to find her naked photo that she could never found cause the memory card was removed....so sad dear friends.....
I wake up and went to her.....she was crying......are you now able to guess as I felt ?
I asked what happens ???
She said again delete my photo....please....I put inside the memory card and I did it immediately and she went to bedroom.
Let write here clear that the only one foto where she was naked it was not seen her face,cause I took this photo with the camera under the table when we were sitting and drinking beer and she knew, she saw the photo,so I yet not know what the fuck happened inside her brain, she got so pissed off, she cryied too just for a photo of her legs+pussy+the 4 legs of the table ?????
Believe I tried everything and I write another time...everything I tried.... I said her sorry hundreds of times, I tried to hold her, to kiss her, I really tried to communicate with her, but she just lie down and was in totally silence, so closed.
When she was in the shower I put the 3000 rubles under her handbag,but I checked a while ago,while she is sleeping when I write these lines and they are still there and they are hide, I guess she never noticed they are there.
I tried for more than 2 hours to change her mood but nothing.
We drunk just beers, I am not drunk and she not too, so I have no idea what the fuck she said in the shower at the cell phone, I obviously asked her if she wanted to go home too, she said yes,but she drunk beers she cannot drove her car parked in the front of hotel...should I had to call taxi just to make her go out of my room when every second minute I was hope to her change her mind and start to have the such beautiful sex my body was desperately waiting for???
Try to imagine....I was horny as bull after two days of super sex and this night nothing for one foto of her pussy ?
Besides the no sex, I am really sad, I did not know what happens, concretely I did nothing bad and I lost her as a friend too....ok maybe you say she is only a prostitute,but I really liked her and I felt very good with her, maybe you say, you should just fuck her.....sorry I am not such man and I am not able to have sex whom neither wants to speak with me.....
So early friday morning not able to sleep killing the time (what I did at 99% of my days in Ufa...) and very horny,I cannot go to disco and leave her inside my bedroom, I did not want to call taxi and to throught her out of my bedroom and here I am...
I think....that I took a look of how is inside the non-balanced mind and behaviour of a prostitute, everything can be wonderful and for a stupid little thing she got so depressed till to cry for a photo of her pussy....I think she neither knows why she changed her mind, I think she has seriously problems in her head and life, she looks very cute and total normal girl, many looked to us at Jet Klub and she was not the only one nice there this evening.....so this is what happens...I am listening her sleeping now and I guess in a couple of hours when she will wake up to go to her normal job if she will want to speak or not....I think she will leave without speak and I will never see her again, I feel so sorry even if i know very well I did nothing bad....it was better to left my heart to my home....
I have still 2 days before to leave for Moscow, but so far as on sunday I have to leave the hotel at 4:00am, saturday night I will surely no party and tomorrow evening, actually this evening I will much more waiting to meet her again than to search for a new one......cause the chance a new one girl will give me better hours than those she did me are 0,001% even if I know, better to look forward and to try to enjoy and to forget her, instead to feel sorry for something I guess I cannot no more change.......
Friday early morning
Her alarm at 8:30 as usually, she had to be at work on 9:00, she went to shower, she went to me, kissed me and said goodbye Luke......
I slept neither one minute....I guess a dog in the middle of cold night walking in the streets searching for food feels better than me....
I tried to sleep a couple of hours in the morning, then we started to write sms....to make long short, she got offended I took a picture of her pussy, she said she liked me so much I disappointed her, she said if she did not like me so much, it was not a problem, many already took photos of her naked, but she thought I was different man and she got disappointed.....I am not a woman, so I cannot understand her, only try to guess but maybe her proud of female was hurts from my behaviour, who knows....maybe only another one prostitute could understand her....
However she accepted my excuses and told me evening we are going to meet....I was so happy....
After a while I got a sms from one of the first girl asking me, if we meet....I did not answered her when I got another one sms from mypro....I was afraid to open it....she wrote I have a little problem, we cannot meet......I wanted to through the bed out of window for the happiness.....
But I only wrote....the most important thing you feel good, I wish you to resolve you problem, you mean a lot for me, sunday I leave...you have my number....she wrote she will try to meet me....
Ok...maybe she got another customer offering her more money ? I do not know...and I tried to not think about it....I wrote sms and went to meet the other girl....to make long short, we went to Prospekt klub, a very good dinner, I was so “happy” to be far from my beloved mypro I ordered aand drunk alone a bottle of red italian wine Valpolicella while she drunk whisky and cola....we went to dance, but I almost danced alone, not in mood to try something with her, let's only to say she was nice but a bit selfish, at the evening she showed me the photos of her friend that bought a BMW 740.....very interesting.....
Let's to say too, that there were sooo many nice pussy in the dance floor I never seen in hot dog in Moscow, some surely prostitutes for the way they were alone and looking to every men....after couple of hours arrived also the student girl I got sex too, we said privet and nothing more, but after a while she started to write me sms....if you want I come to your hotel, just send away her....I was not in the mood to get just sex when I got super sex....when you get used to ikra, how can taste 3 days old bread ?
In one day I will be in Tver' so there far from mypro I will restart to hunt again, so I only tried to dance and forget my shitty mood.....
The girl I was with, came to me and said I have to go, my friend has a problem....I said, go go.....she was surprised but I felt better alone... dance for another hour and then went to sit down to smoke the last one marlboro...the girl close to me asked me the light, we started to speak and when I said where I am from the usual millions of question...what you do in Ufa....bla bla....she told me sorry if I speak too much, but I am drunk, she was nice, a 7'...maybe I could get sex with her, who knows...I only knows she did not stop to speak to me...but I wanted to know where mypro was....I missed her and I got so boring from the one speaking to me that I said I go to toilet and out in the taxi to hotel writing now these lines......unbelievable the first one girl who started to talk with me in 14 days and I went to hotel.....
Will I see mypro again during my last day here ?
I do not know....I will hope even if...I do not know if it is better to have again super sex with a girl that as second job is a prostitute, that lives 4000km from me and that I like too much......
Tomorrow my last day in Baskiria...where during the last 5 days of my 2 weeks here I surely not got boring.....
Saturday 18 october
Afternoon I am sad packing clother to suitcase, mypro still not answered after 4 sms and 2 phone calls.....I guess it is surely not a problem of money, she knows, she can almost asking me whatever price cause as my last day here I will pay, more I think she decided to finish everything cause honestly, there are no really and concretely chance to have a sucessfull future together,so I know, she knows, to meet again will make only harder to say tomorrow goodbye forever dear......I think there are things we just can and have to accept, no matter if we like it or not......
I go now to tinkoff and I will connect to net and to post this second report, later the 3rd and 4th part.....What can I add now ?
I miss mypro so much I could go to search for a flat and to spend the last 75 days of my visa here....if she only wanted it and if she only was a normal girl, but she isn't.....so far as Love is only reciprocal deal, no matter that I will agree to do everything for us to stay longer time together....if I want it alone, it will never works......
I think this evening I will really stay in my bedroom, looking for a film in my pc.....
It was one of the best experience of my life together a woman and from tomorrow I will start to hunt again and maybe I will be able to forget her a bit.....
I hope you enjoyed my report as I did writing it and that maybe reading it you could get the feeling to be here.....from the capital of Baskiria that's all folks.....
Udachu, Lukasek
Probably she found sth about you,checked your mobile phone or laptop while you were sleeping.She did not want her photo to be published in ISG,that is why she told you to delete it.Or she found out a lot of girls names in your mobile and she was pissed.
Why spanish and italian men fall in love with pros?
It seems you had sex with only one freebie,37 years old during a 10-day stay.How many contacts did you have before coming to Ufa?How many of them did you meet?How many times did you meet each one and how much did you spend on each date on average?
Is it possible to pick up in streets and clubs?
[QUOTE=Lukasek]4 condoms from 3:00am till 11:00am.....this is why I love russia....when it should works, often works nothing and when you are sick in your bedroom asking to yourself what the fuck you are doing here so far from your home town, it can happens that everything changes in a while and from hell you find yourself in the heaven so happy because you was able, or maybe she only allowed you, to make love with a person totally unknown till a couple of hours before......Russia and you say everything ![/QUOTE]Luka,
Maybe your English not so perfect, but I'm sure we all understand what you say. This is the essence of Russia.
так жалко :( It sounds like yourpro had many other things going on in her life and you will probably never know what they were. But, be happy for the time you had together. For a short moment, you may have touched her Русская душа.
всего доброго
[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Bez you dog, you snuck off to the motherland and didn't even tell us. ;)[/QUOTE]
Da, ya sabaka!
I'll even howl at the fucking moon if it did any good. What a fucked up country, Ukraine, that is. I guess I got a little disappointed this morning, when Leanna brought over Inna for introduction. This is pretty pathetic when you think about it, that she brings over a new girl, and I can't get excited about it because she's really just on the plain side, with kind of droopy boobs as well. When it came time for come, I didn't even give her any, and sent her back into the living room to watch tv and raid my fridge.
So you would actually think, that with all the numbers I've got now, that after getting a very substantial morning 3-some session under my belt, I'd have the whole afternoon of texting and e-mailing to get SOMETHING lined up for the evening. Remember the old basic thumb-rule out here, anything less than the recommended minimum daily allowance/serving of pussy food group of 2 dyevs per day is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE, and once again, I find myself in a death struggle to maintain minimum levels.
I mean, I did get a 20 year old Tanya to show up at 8:00 at the main square, but she was SO plain, just NOTHING at ALL sparkly or tantalizing about her, less than even my imagination would allow, so I politely told her thanks for coming, but that she wasn't what I was looking for. And she wasn't even meeting me for sponsorship, she was there for the serious relationship thing.
This has just ground me to a furious halt, as two evenings ago, I met Karina, who insisted she had to go to work at 10PM on Thursday, as she was the boss of some computer programming firm, but she was meeting me to be her sposnor to help her with all her financial problems. Sorry to say that she had another very plain face, but the rest of her was certainly ok, she ran about 107 pounds, and from the neck down, I could have had plenty of fun with her. I get her to prominse to hook up with me Friday after work, when she would be finishing at 10, but of course, she calls me and says that she had to go off to Kiev, to take care of some business emergency, and she doesn't know when she'll be back. To top it off.........
HOLY FUCKING SHIT AND JESUS CREPPING SHIT!!
THIS IS LIKE, "AND NOW WE BRING YOU ACTUAL LIVE REPORTS FROM THE FIELD!!" SHIT, MONGERING IN ITS PURE TWISTED FORM, LIVE AND IN TEXT AS IT UNFOLDS LIKE 2 LABIA RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY BLOODSHOT EYEBALLS!
As I'm sitting here typing a stupid report about some dumb dyev who jerked me around all evening thinking she was gonna hook me up and let me twist her into a little pretzel, and then I'm thinking that she stood me up for another monger, just now, she sms's me asking if I want "Orgiya" with her student girlfirends, 19 and 21 years!! Ahh!
Man this crazy shit turns around fast! Before that, I had 2 other calls, one from a student, got my number from her dorm friend I knew last year, she is ready to have sponsor tomorrow night, and another, from my agent's fotography studio's assistant....
woops! there goes another cutie, and this is getting wierder by the minute. ok, so the 3 orgy girls were too scared to come over, and they basically insited that I go over to their apartment, and then I could have picked any one of, or all 3 if I had any sperma left, which now I really have spent practically all the spunk I can spurt!
With such a srewy situation happening simltaneously, i couldn't let a girl practically in probably-fake tears go off into the cold night without some deep shafted bone grafting, NOW COULD I?? (hehehehe!!!)
So, after i had already told Alisa to grab a taxi and come over at 1:00 in the moaning, the university orgy team was sms-ing me for my adress, presumably so they can make a withdrawl form their sperm bank account before they drain it completely down to the vas deferens, and my tubules start excreting s.o.s. signals into the back of the little dyev's tonsils.
Well, to make a somewhat short story excrutiatingly longer, when Alisa's taxi pulled up, I was sms-ing the coed triplets, and now i'm going back and forth on the cell phone between 4 girls, when I realize I need to get in the elevator and go pay for Alisa's taxi. Not bad, 25 gr, but when I see her face, I get some feeling like I'm just not sure I want her to stay. But something is also telling me that I gotta get a better look at her, since its pitch black by my ftaroy podyest. And when I do, something else tells me to tell her no thanks, which doesn't make sense, cause she IS cute, about 5'4" and a nice small butt, but I do say "sorry, but nyet", and she just gets a look on her face like I really hurt her feelings and its actually worse cause she's trying to not let me see that I did.
I try to tell the taxi to wait and take her away, when she asks me to stop, so I say,oh, you want to call antoher taxi, you don't want to go back with this guy? And she says, yeah yeah, not with him.
So I tell her sure, because now she seems relieved, anway, when I get her up in my foyer where the lights are on, I start to notice that she's pretty tight........, but there's JUST SOMETHING.
When she asks me why I don't want her to stay, which downstairs she didn't even ask, I don't want to lie to her, and I'm really too tired to bother making something up anyway, so I tell her because 3 students are coming over for an orgy. She says, hey.., she can't beat that, so go for it. Then the triplets call, and I use her to be my interpreter, since they're begging me to go over to their apartment, but I am staying put, (What a pathetic LOSER I am!).
After Alisa hangs up, she finally asks me, Don't I remember her? And she starts telling me shit about me that only I could have told her. God it takes me awhile, because she says that it was in 2006! But I finally start remembering her a little. What I want to know is how I forgot her little 38-22-24 body, but then she brings up a story that brings her back for me. SHe had called me to come over on my very last night, and ended up helping me re-arrange all the furniture in the flat, I remember that it was nice of her to help move all this shit.
So that "feeling" I was getting, is the old standard rule about NOT repeating with a dyev I've already had, and ESPECIALLY NOT, when its a whole year later, meaning I might have been lucky to get her when she was just beginning, so I CERTAINLY DON'T want her after she's been whoring for a whole year. BUT, the exception to that rule has to be if hse gave an outstanding performance, or if I just get that nostalgia feeling, to hang with an old chum, in this case, one that likes to deep throat swallow, and give great back-scratching!
Well she turned out to be another solid 7 with a .5 bonus for deliberately and repeatedly gagging herself on the Bez-pole. Now she claim to be 20, but I just have a feeling that she 's about 24. She was quite proud to tell me no cigaretts OR alkogol for 5 straight months, so maybe she is 20, but, it really doesn't matter anymore. She wasn't greedy, so who cares.
Well, its 4:25, time for a fucking nap. Let's see what tomorrow brings????
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Man this crazy shit turns around fast! Before that, I had 2 other calls, one from a student, got my number from her dorm frined I knew last year, she is ready to have sponsor tomorrow night, and another, from my agent's fotography studio's assistant....[/QUOTE]
Haha, I enjoy the satirical way of describing your hardships. Mind if I ask, how much are dorm girls you're mentioning in latest post? Location?
[QUOTE=Leeuwen]Haha, I enjoy the satirical way of describing your hardships. Mind if I ask, how much are dorm girls you're mentioning in latest post? Location?[/QUOTE]
You never know, with these ladies. Some can be quite greedy, while some are really not out to take you to the cleaners, so it can be anywhere form a few dinners and small gifts, all the way up to two or three hundred. The highest costing sponsorships are for the super incredibly hot ones that start pouting when they don't get what they want, but they also know that they won't get what they want, if they refuse anything, so its pretty much carte blanche, anything form anal to lesbi-videos with vibrators and swallowing all-nighters, as the dorm ladies can stay out all night, but then they have to wait until after 7:30 to get someone to let them in. So if they're gonna be here for breakfast, they know that's gonna include another sessions.
In the big picture, I know I'm breaking the rules by spoiling them, so I'll tone it down a bit for the team. Turns out that I'll be meeting Lea, 19, and not involved in any serious relationships yet, at 8:00 tonight at the square in the center, then a short walk back here, and we'll see what happens.
This afternoon, I had to opt for p4p, from one of the cat-houses i tried calling last night without any results. You'd think I could find soemthing in a big city on a Saturday night, but no luck, what a dump this place is!
But all the numbers I called last, night, the palces started calling me today around 12:30, and so i tracked down Yula, who has the softest skin with jet black long hair, pretty green eyes, and a cooter that feels somewhat shredded from getting pummeled without any lube by a bunch of soldiers.
What a pity. I'll post her up to for ya, but again, it'll have to wait 'til I get back.
Ok, time to go............
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]At long last, I am finally able to actually report from the field, as I bought a laptop and got wired here in the depths of candy land, so the obvious advantage is that I can give blow by blow reports as they unfold, rather than have to draw from foggy memories.[/QUOTE]Sorry Bez, didn't mean to dis you. The real time reports are great. And we certainly do appreciate you taking time out from your busy schedule to write. :) Where are you, anyway?
I am curious about the technology, are you dialing in through a landline? Or is this some sort of wireless link?
It seems that the quality of the dyeffki is going down. Or is it that your tastes have become too refined? :)
These dyevuchkies are a sad bunch, I'll tell ya what!
Exactly where I am is less important than the fact that the stupidity level of females in Ukraine has sunk below to new all time low levels of the Marianna Trench depths variety!
Let me give you a few examples of the little sms "game" that I'm in the midst of with Tatiana, an 18 year old bartender that works from 8 Am to 10pm 8 days a week.
Bez: Priechala moy kvartira SICHAS!! KANYETS IGRA!!
Tatiana: Ya go in you house c sistra? We go bar?
Bez: Get your skinny ass over here NOW or I'll be on the next poyest to Kyiv!
Tatiana: Sister go. Vstrechat ya and you bersday?
Hell, at this point, I'd gladly fuck her stupid sister with 3 teeth! Now I have to say, that Tatiana is a healthy blond version of Ann Hathaway, with a pretty interesting looking rack. I did manage to get her over here last week after work, of course she brought her sister and her sister's significant otter, I think, he was anyway...(No, otter is NOT a typo!)but definitely a bit odd. He had the typical buzz cut of funky looking yellowish hair, but he was only about 5 feet, sort of a dwarf munchkin fellow, but not unpleasant, and supposedly he and Tatiana's 3 tooth sister just had a baby together, which she seems to desperately want me to come to the kids 1st birthday party on Tuesday, so I think I'll pass, as odds are the kid is some kinda freaksih mongoloid with a webbed head and three feet!
Anyhoo, I just caught a cab over to the square, $7 round trip, to meet Karina. What a miracle! She's out of the hospital and didn't really need that operation after all. Christ, so they think that every businessman form the West still believe that "I need an operation" bullshit, STILL??? I guess it shows how hopelessly stupid they still are, well, naturally she shows me how cold her hands are, as she holds them out for a handout, because GUESS WHAT? she won't get in the cab and come back to my place, because, GUESS WHAT AGAIN, doh! Here it comes, "Ti PLOCHA!!!" yeah, I'm bad because I won't give her a handout, while she's probably got her drunk boyfriend hiding in the bushes. She didn't look too good now that I think of it, but its absolutely her own damn fault, for completely wasting my valuable time, when she could have easily put me to good use, and not jerk me around all week with no intention whatsoever of bering sponsored. Dumb-ass suka, serves her right. You don't go around treating friendly foreigners this way and think that anything but more trouble and problems are gonna come your way, so whatever she gets, she deserves it!
In the meantime, Tatiana continues to pull the same stupid coy but I'm really broke bullshit as well, these girls are SO stupid, it boggles the mind. DO they really think that another Bez is gonna show up next week, so they can be so picky and choosy that ANY other monger would ever set foot in this disgusting shithole, and then, to top it off, actually give them the fucking time of day, like I do out of pity and good will? Were talking lead paint and too much mercury in the fish, that theyse dyevs brains have developed without any ability to reason or deduce that their rainy day is here for the next six month, and they got nothing but a sock full o' holes saved up to get through a very long nasty winter.
And in case anybody else hasn't fuckin' noticed, Putin is Dry-fucking the Orange revolution right up the god damn ass embargo-ing Ukraine for heating oil now, as it happens to noe be five days after the hheat was supposed to come on, and the old radiator is as dry as a fucking bone still. Yes, October 15th is when the heat always starts working, which sure makes it easier to take a dyevochka out of the shower, and not have to cover her up in 3 blankets while I lick her hoo-ha, so that she's shaking from my highly skilled technique, and not because its fucking 15 degrees inside my bedroom again!!
God damn politics!
Hecker, Lukasek in czech means little Luke, not naive ;) ... believe me I really am not so naive....if she was not able to understand the camera was without memory card, how could she was able to bypass the password of my lap top and mobile cell too ? Maybe an hacker that is a pro part time, but not her ;)
And I never lost of contact eye my mobile phone, even if i go to toilet for a moment i take with me and when i am in my bedroom they are switched off, so even if she switch on...she needs passport...I pay very caution when and where I write here.....really, I am not naive....
Strav:everytime I said udachu, to taxi driver and when get out of disko and they answered me with stastlivo I remembered you using here this word with a smile ;)
Thanks for your word.....
I found a wifi here in Tver I will soon post the report of the first day......I only write I got to become really angry, or better say, to play I was angry :) they did not allowed me to get into a klub.....ok if i was in moscow, but not here where I am the one now spending more money.....typical russian "racism".....
Stastlivo ;)
Little guide to Ufa
I will write now just few infos for somebody so crazy as me that will arrive here :)
The city:
Ufa capital of Baskiria republic, 1 million inhabitants, there are much more muslims you could think and even if I never felt unsafe,the girls are not so easy going as the russian ones.
Many tartars too make a mix of look,let's say that the 20-30% of the girls are really very nice, specially in the disco and in the shopping center.
Far less than 2 hours by plane from Moscow, flight 2x day with s7,round trip for 180 euro.
And yes....the city is definetely ugly !!!!
Dirty and dirty are also the taxi inside you should wash your pants every time you use one. Ok not every,but the most of them yes ! You realized how dirty is the city,cause you never seen a clean car, even if every time I went to Jet the car wash is full of cars,actually in the streets they look as the owner never washed.
I guess how much powder you will go to breathe in summer when it not rains every day as now in october if even now it seems to rains sand.....
Weather:
In october is awful, when it not rains, it rains....but the biggest problem is that the street are full of water, you do not know where to walk, actually you'd go faster if you swimm instead to walk....I bought a waterproof spray to try to protect my beloved Prada shoes,cause here it is not a joke with so much water, really unconfortable.
One day snow too.
Restaurants:
The best ones are Mokko, not expensive and great food and wine too, specially the italians ones ;)
Tinkoff expensive for the quality of food.
Jet Klub great too.
Where to go:
The center is street Lenin, I got boring most of time, the top notch klub are Akafe, Jet Klub and Prospekt, Pravda and Infinity more for teenager discos, surely some other discos but even these one are empty besides friday or saturday so to find what to do will be surely your main problem here.
Sauna, yes, the first one I tried is wonderful for cheap price, Kul Tau at Zorge street,everybody knows it.
Shopping center, gostini dvor not much nice, much better Mir, new on 5 floors with many shops,bars,cinema and restaurants,Europa the most fashion and however there are about 6 very big shopping center...big choice...yeah...
Prices:
So cheap, I give at random as I remember some examples.....at Jet Klub a coca cola in disco it is just 50 rubles (1,35 euro), entrance 200 rub(5,4 euro), beer 150rub (4 euro).
Good sushi for 15-20 euro all included for one person but you really eat a lot of sushi.
Taxi the first day they fucked me....300rub (8 euro), the second day I was already able to negotiate till 100rub (2,7 euro), to everywhere in the city with every car, sometimes at night 150 rub and when I was in hurry and not in mood to negotiate 200 rub........if one he is used to Moscow prices and comes here, you end to save money every day and in couple of days you have your wallet full of rubles if you use atm so often as in Moscow. I could say, here hard to spend money....
One girl told me in some village out of Ufa they never seen rubles....
Sex:
Strip klub objekt, a bit far from the city,nevermind everybody knows it, 3500rub (94 euro) 60 minutes, cheap drink.
Oasis, same prices and another 5-6 strip klub I did not see, but taxi driver told me there are.
Tochka as in every city from Moscow till Vladivostok, I found 3000rub to morning so a bit cheaper than in Moscow ;)
With freebie, I got success only at 20%, one from five I met....too many muslims girls, ok, they get drunk, but from to be drunk to open their legs in front of your nose it can take much more time you can imagine....
Postcards:
Ok maybe I am the only one I would like to send to my friends to my home town,but just to say I was not able in 14 days to find a place where to buy them, ( the mypro I took found it after a long search....)
Internet:
No problem, many internet salon, 20 rubles 30 minutes and many bar has wi-fi.
Sim cell mobile phone
In Moscow I bought a number and I asked I want to use it till Vladivostok, I am in Ufa in roaming, so to call it is a bit expensive, even for them if they call you, but so far as here nobody speaks english, it is very cheap to write sms and at least when I get a sms in russian language I read and understand.
Language:
Russian or Baskiria language...actually even the name of the streets are in the two languages and I guess sometimes when I did not understand some words, they maybe spoke to me in Baskiria......
So come here if you want to learn russian, you will have not easy time, but I can guarantee in 14 days your knowledge of russian will improve so much.....hardly,let's say impossible, even in top notch klub as jet or prospekt to find a menu in english.....this is the only one thing I miss from Moscow here...
Russian service:
Something you will have to handle sooner you could expect and much more times you would want....it is not only slowly service everywhere it is....nobody care to help you, when you are searching for a street, for a taxi, to understand or to buy something.....be aware you will be alone...always....some examples ?
Here you have: at desk of s7 in Moscow, nobody spoke english but also they did not care to try to help me; at my hotel when in russian I asked to call the airport to confirm my flight showing the paper of my ticket the old woman said ja neznaju,ja neznaju....obviously without to neither try to help me, they are so lazy that they do something only for themselves and surely not for the first gringo arrived here...yes often some money helps a lot, but if in London,Paris or Barcelona you go to ask something, they see you as foreigner so they try to be patient and to help you, here they try to avoid to be polite and kindly....after a bit you get used,but not soon....
Delay at date:
I noticed from the first days here as if you have to meet with a girl at 20:00 you can go there at 20:30 and you will arrive first.....even witth a delay of 40-50 minutes they not write sms or call you,they take all without hurry....at the end I let her to decide when to meet and I end with a sms like this, ok let's meet at 20:00,but if I do not see, at 20:10 I will leave and it worked enough good
Conclusion.....
The main questions here are two....
The first one: do I suggest to my best friend to go to Ufa ?
I have not one answer, cause it depends what are you looking for and why you come here.
If you come cause your company send you here, you have already resolved my biggest problem how to kill the time ( Doc Skank was very wise in his suggest to try to see museum or something like that, otherwise you get mad for boring in provinces, specially in autumn or winter...) and so far as you will not be on your expenses, you can take also an expensive one pro, but if you have to pay with your money to come here, I think it surely does not worth it.
Nothing to see, nothing to do, freebie very hard to get to bed so if you will not stay here one month with enough time to work slowly and well every your contact......much better another city and please.....no muslims republic too....
However I have to mention what Jake said.....the girls here are really very very nice, comparing the girls I saw in 3 evening at hot dog with the freebie at Jet Klub, the ones from hot dog seems very ugly and it is amazing as in the dance floor I saw 90% of women.....the men here just never dance....again the problem is that the disco are crowded only 2 days per week...too little....
So to make long short, I do not suggest to come here for Ufa, but if you will have to do it for business, it can be good.
Second question: did it worth it for me to come till here ?
Let's make clear, that I contacted really hundreds of girls in the month earlier to come here from mail.ru, I just copied and paste with mouse the prepared few sentences and wrote for a week to 100 girls every evening....why 100? Cause it is the max number of girls you can contact before the server of mail.ru will stop you for spam till next day.....
One day girls from 18 till 22, second from 23 till 25 and so on....
Most of them not answered me, many yes but in russian, other stopped to write me after some messages.....
It is not enough to look how many cute girls you see in one city and think you come here with hundreds of numbers, I came with 22 numbers and if you read my previous post you know it was not easy....
Let's say too that I am 34yo, 172cm 66kg, normal looking and dressing, just an average normal guy, so I am as an ordinary member here in the forum and if you are not Tom Cruise I do not think you are gonna to get much more lucky than me...but if you get, please tell me how ;)
I had some fun, nothing bad happens to me, the city is dirty but safe and most of all you can buy included sex, it is very cheap, but if I think I did 8.000km to come here....so it worth it just as an experience of life, something totally different you do only once in the life,it did not worth for the number ,little, of pussy I got.
What I really regret is that the city in quality and number of pussy has really a great potencial, but the problem is to get it in your hands in 7 days....less the first week you need to improve your russian and to know where to go...
Consider that nobody speaks english, so you really need enough time to get used to speak russian and hard to find a buddy cause it is not a turistic place.
So....the answer ?
IF I did not meet mypro, surely I was probably regret I came here, but even one woman when she is nice and the sex with her it is the best sex you had, can worth it to go so far......so I am happy I visited Ufa but once is more than enough
Now I am happy to leave for a non muslims city....yes...maybe Moscow and Piter is not the real Russia, but neither Ufa it is....
Lukasek
Bez,
Dude, you didn't tell us! Happy Birthday! Pazdravlaiyou vas snyom rozhdyeniya (I congratulate you on the day of your birthday).
Wherever you are, it sounds like my kinda place; dumb, barefoot and pregnant, that's the way I like 'em. :)
So, basically, you text local dyevs, "Come over to my place and fuck me." This approach works well in the Ukraine???
What I really want to know is... how did you entertain the brother-in-law?
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Strav:everytime I said udachu, to taxi driver and when get out of disko and they answered me with stastlivo I remembered you using here this word with a smile ;) Thanks for your word.....[/QUOTE]с большим радостью, sssbol'shim rahdostyu (with great pleasure) :)
How did I entertain some bozo?
I showed him a few photos of a hotel on South Beach, and a golf course in Jupiter. You know, having wrapped up my 10th day, with a triple strike out tonight, I'm getting pretty perturbed about the lack of nookie situaiton. Its now been 9 hours since I got laid, and I'm feeling pretty low.
I don't know whether being able to post on ISG while I'm posted out here in Bumfuck Oblast is a good thing or not, I could be watching some stupid old sovietsky movie crap-ola on the telly, but instead I gotta sit here and redpudiate your erroneous congratulatory wishes, and re-direct them to 3-tooth seestra's darling little fuzz ball. I'm sure this kid will grow up to be another Dostoesvsky, etiher that or he'll be slaggin' coal with the boys from Kirovhrad. I did actually get a half-decent rib eye steak at the bazaar yesterday, for $3, pan-fried that slab up on the gas stove with onions, peppers, and some 'shrooms. A little on the chewy side, but decent enough flavor. Not exactly Winn-Dixie, but this is backwater, USSR after all.
They got a new interesting Vietnamese entertainment center that I'll take Tanya and Lena to tomorrow night, gotta thank them properly for hooking me up again this year, i really don't know what i would be doing without them, as all the rest here, dumber than dirt brainless twits, insist that they can't possibly hook me up with a padruga under the age of 24. Even when I offer them outrageous bonuses, the likes of which they'll NEVER have another shot at in their entire lives, they just ignore me, perfectly content to go on about their dreary boring existence and leaving me squiriming in agony trying to meet my MDR of twat, ( that's Minimum Daily Requirement, for those who omitted my last post), not that I blame ya. But really, is there some un-written law that makes them so god-awful lazy? I guess the old soviet system is so deeply ingrained into these people, that they wouldn't bend over to pick up a Krugerand if it meant they'd have to stop thinking about how red their lipstick is today.
Least but not last, i'd like to close this day's posting by doing a little ignoring myself, as tomorrow, my internet best contact, Darva, will finally be meeting me at 13:00. I think I will just lay it on the line with her, and propose a massive sponsorship deal, one that will compound annuities into her 401K plan at a rate of less than half of Warren Buffets dental floss expense, and see if she is ready to join the G7 before it declares Chapter 13.
And on that note, i wish you all a pleasant Dobre Noch. This isn't Walter Kronkite , and that's not the way it ain't. (in Bez-zarro land!)
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Tatiana: Sister go. Vstrechat ya and you bersday?
[/QUOTE]I rest my case... :)
s nyom rozhdyenia tibya...
s nyom rozhdyenia tibya...
s nyom rozhdyenia Bezarra...
s nyom rozhdyenia tibya!
(sung to the tune of Happy Birthday to You)
BTW - it's dobri utra (good morning) and
spakoinoi nochi (good night)
Just in case you have to text someone. :)
Lukaszek,
You are great and very honest.
Can you tell why did you choose this city, Ufa, based on what criteria?
I have also hesitations about russian province although chances there do exist.
Stravvy...this is why I am so happy I learned czech language....many words are the same in russian.....pleasure in czech is...radost ;)
Hecker: why Ufa it was the question asked me every single person I met in Ufa....the answer it is only I had to decide one city from moscow till vladivostok served by s7 and where i could find cheap accomodation, Jake wrote nice girls in ufa, so i start to collect some contacts and went there,so at least i can to my friend in home town i went to baskiria even if i will have first to explain where it is ;)
Yes i got only one freebie without money in 14 days, too little i know, but i think that also the one student i got and wanted 2000rubles can be considered as freebiee,cause as she said, i like you Luke and i am gonna asking you 2000 rubles, 54 euro, cause for you it is so cheap price but for me it means a lot....so how to spot freebie, girl who will have sex with you without money or just an ordinary girl that so far as she is together foreigner will try to have nice time and to get a bit of money too ?
To tell the truth, i left when everything started to work....i undervalue the time a foreigner needs to get to know the city and specially to improve enough good russian to be able to have a conversation, i thought was enough one week, but it was not,now in tver it is much more easily for me, i met with the first contact, she showed me the wifi bar,now i am, at evening i should meet another one contact, however i am really a bit tired to be alone, i am use to be together many friends in my home town and to hunt always alone without buddy it get boring,let's say it stress you a bit.
Provincies are not moscow or piter...what it does it means....even in good hotel, the shower can not work or the bedroom could smell so bad.....not easy,really and as i saw provincies not means easier sex....hey,at least for me....maybe other did better or maybe they wrote it is easy,just to not write the truth....what i wrote it is only what real happens to me, i have no reason to lie,but i hardly figure one normal man as me to have a big success in provincies in little time, cause one thing is to write,another one to have success.
The only good things about provincies is cheaper price, besides that.....more negative points,as nothing to do, not good restaurants, junkie food, not friendly people....an example? the girl i met she went back yesterday from cyprus, i asked what you liked more of cyprus, weather, the sea? She said, that there everybody is friendly, here in tver everybody is cold and angry....and if it was said from a girl that speaks russian....it says a lot......
So far...Stastlivo ;)
[QUOTE=Lukasek] the girl i met she went back yesterday from cyprus, i asked what you liked more of cyprus, weather, the sea? She said, that there everybody is friendly, here in tver everybody is cold and angry....and if it was said from a girl that speaks russian....it says a lot......)[/QUOTE]
Luke,
You are on to something my friend. There is some truth in what you say. Glad you can look back and consider your trip to Ufa a positive one. Good luck in Tver......
[quote=stravinsky]
i rest my bezarra...sung to the tune btw dobri nochi in case you have someone.
[/quote]
i think the dyev's prefer my chuy'ed up ruski!
it amuses them, with the yolki polki's and the popa zhopa's, when i sound like i just stepped off the boat from south jersey.
anyway, here's my wild and crazy update for monday night. frustrated again to the point of going 0 for 4, in the afternoon my driver schlepped me around town for this and that, and when it came down to meeting time with katya, naturally she was another no-show. glupy durak!
so i figured we could call the cat houses again, and see if anything interesting was to be found, went back to the same place i found kleopatra on sunday, climbed up four flights to the brothel, and found 2 losers smoking and watching tv. pass!
came home after hitting the supermarket for supplies, and pretty soon started to get some returns. set up meetings with 3 dyev's at the square, got my driver mike to pick me up and over to the flowers bazaar. a couple of nice long-stem reds, wrapped up with gold bow's. at 7:00, natasha is supposed to meet me, we've been texting back and forth for a week without success. between 6:45 and 6:55, i finally get answers back from 3 other dyev's i had sms'd in the afternoon, and now they all want to come! i've got mike on the phone interpreting for me, while i'm sms-ing natasha that i'm stuck in traffic and to please wait for me, i'll bee there in only 5 minutes. i'm hollering at mike to speed things up and make it snappy, he's so slow sometimes on the phone, i guess all these fucking russians drag out every conversation for some wierd reason, they could just say, ok be here at 8 o'clock, but it takes 10 mintues to say that, while they go on and on endlessly about god only knows what. but meanwhile, i'm telling him "davay!! davay!! bistry bistry ya son-of-byotch!", cause i still need him to talk to elena and yana. elena is 18, yana is 19, and natasha is 20, so i've got all age groups covered.
so as i'm just wrapping up who's coming and where and when, natasha texts me that she's tired of waiting and she's leaving! i holler back, wait wait, i'm here, and jump out of the car, hoping that she doesn't notice i've been sitting there for 15 minutes texting other girls, and stalling her for time, while i know she's shivering in the 12 degree wind blowing down the street.
so she relents and says ok, ok, she'll wait. when i finally find her at the fountain, she's just on the homely side, and has just a touch of those thick fingers and hands indicative of the horrid looking babushka she's gonna metamorph into in 25 or 30 years, and i'm really not sorry that i made her wait, and actually very happy that i also told 2 other dyev's that they should head over to meet me. i could have cancelled the others, if natasha turned out to be a keeper, but why limit your possibilities knowing that she might not meaure up. but i have time to kill, so we talk for a while, and i start charming her about how pretty she is, and she's smiling now with the rose i gave her, but i explain that i really don't think she needs me because she doesn't need a sponsor anyway.
then she tells me an interesting story about how her day went, the typical 'life in the day of a dumbed down ukrainian dyevochka in the big city', you will love this!! so she admits, that she does not have a job, and is trying to find one, and went today for an interview with a firm that was advertising in the newspaper for an interpreter. natasha's english is very passable, compared to most here that take an hour to say even one word, and then laugh hysterically at how funny they sound. so natasha says that the 2 men that interview her tell her she's very beautiful, (a lie of course), and so because of her hotness, she will be required to have sex with their clients! i guess that's the "interpreting how far she can shove a cock down her throat" part of business conversations found normally in ukraine?
anyway, i tell her thanks but no thanks, and that maybe i'll call her sometime, and off she twaddles like a little lost duck in her poofy madonna skirt and dark leggings into the sad lonely night, having blown her chance at a generous sponsorship with a wonderful foreigner businessman gentleman that is the bez!
so here's the kicker, she texts me an hour later, this message:
"hi again. sorry me for my behaviour today. i am hot-tempered person and you very pleasant man. and to say the truth, i need sponsor! so if you didnt change mind, we can meet next day. and you can teach me english and i teach you russian, ok?"
the best part of this, is that i'm chuckling and polina is now asking me what's so funny. polina was the fourth dyev i was texting to come to the square at 8 o'clock, and when she showed up, i started thinking, maybe i had finally scored. with no hesitation whatsover, she jumped right into the car, and straight off to my apartment. she doesn't like cafe's or klub's or any of that, just ready for some home cozyness. but polina is the real anomoly that just does not fit the typical mold of all these dyev's i've been meeting. she's 21, or so she says? i didn't check her id though. 5'7", and 108 pounds, 32 breasts. dirty blond hair died red, pale as snow white skin, and very pink in all the wet places. she absolutely did not want to get bedded on the first date, until i swore to god and heaven, that i would never ever ever ever think that she was a bad girl for having sex the first night, but that it was really necessary because i could be called home by my company any day, so time was the problem. once she understood that i would not question her goodness, she practically tore off my shirt and started trying to tongue my epiglottis.
it turns out, that i was at the right place at the right time for once, and just had a dyev ready to get down with a foreigner a scratch the itch she seemd to have down there. with her clothes off, she really looked about, well, since its prohibited from discussing under 18 here, lets just say that she looked considerably younger than she claimed she was, but who's to say. she sure didn't seem to have a dishonest bone in her body, not counting the engorged bez phallus firmly lodged way in her hoo-ha.
fotos to follow, after getting home. :-)
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]
It turns out, that I was at the right place at the right time for once, and just had a dyev ready to get down with a foreigner a scratch the itch she seemd to have down there. With her clothes off, she really looked about, well, since its prohibited from discussing under 18 here, lets just say that she looked as much as 7 years younger that she claimed she was, but who's to say.
Fotos to follow, after getting home. :-)[/QUOTE]
I think I speak for all when I say we eagerly await your photos to assist in age determination!!!! ;)
[QUOTE=Jake993]
I think all eagerly wait
your photo to ass !!!!
[/QUOTE]
LIfe is good. Strange, but good.
After a morning session with Oksana, part-time free lancer/medical university student, I started the old sms thing again, and i guess the Bez is just on another hot-streak. Had a few lining up, Ruzanna who is 20, who's been texting me for a couple days, to come to the square at 4:00 pm, then Nastya, who insisted I meet her at MacDonalds at 5pm, or as she texts it:
"Privet, davay vstretimsya v 17:00 vozle Makdonadsa na prospekt Revolutsi. Otvet sichas!"
So I'm really not expecting much in the way of success, I figured yesterday with Polina was just dumb luck, and that I'd be right back in the thick of the bullcrap they've been feeding me for a week, that is, getting the royal run around, OR getting rejected at the first meeting, OR going on a seemingly ok first date, but then getting rejected the next day when I expect a follow up. I've had 5 of those already, 4 of which were very fuckable, not perfect, but students are students, they ain't pro's, so they fuck like banshees when ya push the right buttons.
Little did I know, that Ruzanna, who came in the Mitro from the suburbs, is standing across the square by the newspaper kiosk, and we're playing long distance mobilny-tag and hide and seek. I run across traffic and nearly get clipped by the fucking elechtricka, and find a real down home tom boy country girl with long yellow/white hair and a goofy smile. She's 5'8", and a dripping wet 105 pounds with 32 B's and a 20 inch waist, and sparkly blue eyes. I can see there's something very special about her, though I'm not able to put my finger on it yet. Cigaretttes and Orbit gum is all I had to buy, though she did down 2 shots of the Ruski Standard bottle I was planning to take home as a gift/bribe for my new boss.
I have to say that this girl was a real keeper, I slowly began working her using the ISG all-Monger Certified Doctor Skank method of drving them past the limit of their ability to resist the temptation of having a wild fling-romp in the sack with Joe Foreigner Yankee American Bear.
To any less than qualified highly experienced up and coming monger reading this, let me affirm that the Doctor Skank method is proven to work flawlessly over 98% of the time, and its recommeneded by 4 out of 5 mongers who eat pussy and chew gum, too. (though not necessarily at the same time).
For what seemed to be a good solid hour, I worked her from a few short smooches to some heavy frenching on the balcony in-between cigarettes and back massage/titty gropes, but really started kneeding her ass cheeks and nipple squeezing. At one point, she grabbed my throbbing johnson, but kept fighting her mating instincts, and backing off with some deep breaths.
I knew I was starting to wear down her willpower to refuse me, and could see little cracks unfolding in the chinks of her sex-resistance armor. i just kept playing it cool, and threw in some pouting to throw her off guard. She would get real worried when I gave her the sad look, and I'd just say that I was very disappointed that she needed to wait, and not go to bed on this first date.
At one point, I just said, sorry, but I CAN"T WAIT, and she looked me dead on and told me to go into the bedroom, and she would go int the bathroom and be just a few minutes.
That was it, boy.
Low down and dirty, a real hard core sex maniac. You guys will kill me for saying this, but as I've let on before, I was quite fortunate to get my shot in the Mystery Tramp, way back when she had only first begun her tawdry trade in flesh, as Zhanna, super VIP mamachka of Kyiv, broke her in, into the biz back in 2002. My long standing rule with Zhanna was always, ONLY fresh brand spanking new girls with NO EXPERIENCE ONLY.
So without being banned, I'm going on the record that Ruzanna could well pass for MT's long lost kissing cousin, though be it a very fresh-faced version. I kept getting deja-vu's of MT, though please keep in mind, I only dipped my wick into MT twice, and that was during her third week of employment, back when it was all just fun and learning new things, but with all the other members photos of MT making the rounds, you guys gave me a lot of reminders of how much fun she was, that is, before her rectum pussy became putrified with all those nasty curdled bloody gray oozing trichomonas discharges, cheesy rashes and infected sores. Lovely!
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra] nasty oozing green trichomonas discharges.[/QUOTE]
OK Bez, now you are just showing off.
But you have got to tel us where you are. Somewhere in the provinces I presume? I would say, "Good Hunting" but it would appear that you don't need any help from me.
Here's to keeping the streak alive......
I guess....why Bezzie does not want to meet Lukasek.... ??? ;)
Bezzie why at the same time we are in different countries ?
A beer with you....no price LOL
In the disco now plays... I will survive.....surely, but the need to come back to Russia is already in me even if I am still here ;)
Bezzie where are you ????? LOL
[QUOTE=Jake993]where the fuck ARE you ?[/QUOTE]
Don't bother to ask this question to Bez , as he will inevitably answer that he is somewhere between Vekynavobashkotartaroktyagorsky and Karabukayachavochersyastok.
;)
[QUOTE=Jake993]
OK Bez, just tel us you are in the provinces?
I would but it would appear that you are.
Here's to keeping salive......
[/QUOTE]
Look, if I reveal my location, it just takes all the fun out of trying to figure out why Bucharest, Sofia, Tallin, Vilnius, Riga, Prague, Warsaw, Kiev, Moscow, and St. Pitr are NOT worth the cost of competing against your fellow mongers, and dealing with jaded females out to empty your wallets.
Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals.
Besides, what's the fucking difference? All the 2nd tier cities are good, if you have some connections. Those you have to make on your own, I can't do that for you. Everyone knows that its not as easy anymore. And why would I want everybody horning in on me here and fucking up my talent pool?
Jesus fuck it all, I fuck this place up enough just on my own, I really don't need YOU ALL to ruin it any faster than I can on my own. Most of you turds have figured out where I am anyway, except that I keep changing locations. It would get boring going to the same place 19 times anyway, how many times can you look at a fucking Mig-7 jet fighter or a rusty old tank?
Go find your own fucking place. Just take some fotos, and then we can figure it out by comparing the bathroom tiles and come-squirt stains I left on the ceiling!
You can keep changing locations, but we will find you after the election, oh yes we will.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]"Privet, davay vstretimsya v 17:00 vozle Makdonadsa na prospekt Revolutsi.[/QUOTE]Bez has given us an important clue to his whereabouts. It's a city, somewhere in the Ukraine, that has a McDonalds and a street called Prospect Revolutsii.
That should narrow it down considerably! LOL
Come get me, you neo-con screwballs!
Dead or Alive!
Or in my case, turgid or flaccid!
Actually, its easier to hide, (and spell), when I'm bewteen Omsk and Toms'k.
Now, Ruzanna, I forgot to say, is from the Kuril Islands.
Pretty strange, I thought that was next to japan?
Starvinky, haven't YOU figured out that I also changed the name of the Prospekt??!! :p
[QUOTE=Piper1]
You cant find the election, oh we wi.
[/QUOTE]
Where'd I put that Viagra?
Ok, here's the big clue that you need, a dead giveaway!
ITS FUCKING COLDER THAN A WITCH'S TIT IN A BLIZZARD.
TURN ON THE FUCKING HEAT, YOU FUCKER POOTY Putin!!
GOD I HATE POLITICS!
no worries mate!
kleopatra the 18 year old i nailed from the salon, is by no means and no way jose no chance the same one you had last month in kiev, because first of all, i didn't really get her at a salon, i got her from a mamachka i know, and second, because her name isn't kleopatra! she just has that exotic look, so i called her that. her name was actually yula, which is every dyevochka's name, except for natasha, katya, and tanya.
and she also hasn't been in kiev, i always aks them if they go there, so i might be able to hook up with them when i'm passing through on my way back and forth to central candyland.
as far as my need for privacy, its not that i need it or anything. sure ok, i'll admit i've run across an occasional wanna-be monger or two out here, one german guy i met in the snack bar at the institute, who tried to tell me a thing or two about ukrainian girls, and how smoking hot his last girlfriend was and how he only had to buy her a few dinners and small gifts to get her in bed and how it only took him a week. when i whipped out the fuji z, and scrolled through a few recent padrugas in compromising positions, (mainly doggy style), he quickly became quiet. another guy he was hanging with also professed to be the ladies man, though he seemed to feel that lonely working divorcees' with children were the easy freebie, and it might even get him a few food scraps. ukrainian gigolo, though he wouldn't say whether he stuffs jerbils up his [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] shute. another time, i actually overheard a couple of guys at a nearby table speaking english in my little cafe/restaurant in the park. how disturbing that was! the only english i want to hear being spoken is my own, or some dyev pleading, "geev me syeks, now!"
so, its not that i wouldn't mind buying the gang some pitchers, i really would enyoy that, in fact, if anyone will be in kiev this saturday, shoot me a pm, and we'll do just that, eh? :o
He is probably in Kiev. He meets the girls near Mc Donalds, not these in Kreshatik metro station but the other metro station. Probably he was in a province city before, maybe in Lugansk or Poltava.
I think he chooses girls from mail. Ru with ''chotsiu naiti sponsora'' or colored names. He writes in Russian province and not in ukrainian in order not to get caught by sb in Ukraine. He will send photos after he leaves Ukraine for the same reason. In order not to get across any problems in Ukraine before being out.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Besides, what's the fucking difference? All the 2nd tier cities are good, if you have some connections. Those you have to make on your own, I can't do that for you. Everyone knows that its not as easy anymore. And why would I want everybody horning in on me here and fucking up my talent pool? [/QUOTE]Bez makes an important point. When it comes to the provinces, it's essentially ALL the same.
Whether Ekaterinburg, Kaliningrad or Tomsk... the game is more of less the same.
But I know where Bez is, he's in...
(sniper shot rings out)
Since I finally have a laptop with me, I can actually meet up for a brew with somebody, on Saturday evening in K-ville.
Any of ya mongrelly mongers gonna be in the neighborhood? I'll likely be holed up next to Mandarin.
PM me by Thursday, because Friday I gotta return this ASUS I had to borrow from the IP president, and swap back the one I bought at CompUSA before I left, which naturally would not conform with Ukrainian protocols for PPP0e.
I also tried it in Kiev, its the new Sylvania GoS mini-laptop, and it wouldn't work in Kiev either, so I can PM someone my mobile, but chances are I won't be able to get back to the board once I have my piece of Japanese ka-ka back, even when I get to Kyiv, so...........
I couldn't even get on in Amsterdam Schipol, I mean what the fuck is with the WiFi? You gotta pay 10 euros to surf the web in the fucking airport?
Oh well, I guess if the airlines are charging for a drink of water or a pillow or a blanket, why should WiFi be free, eh?
Anyway, kiev on Saturday, calling any Senior members for a pow-wow.
Bez, you da man...;)
Dude, are you there?
Dude, gde moy mashina?
I'm in the States now, missed my fall trip to Kyiv because I couldn't take out a subprime loan to finance it due to the credit crunch.
What do you mean your laptop doesn't work in Kyiv??
Ironically enough the only airport I've been to where the Wifi is free is Borispil.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Since I finally have a laptop with me, I can actually meet up for a brew with somebody, on Saturday evening in K-ville.
Any of ya mongrelly mongers gonna be in the neighborhood? I'll likely be holed up next to Mandarin.
PM me by Thursday, because Friday I gotta return this ASUS I had to borrow from the IP president, and swap back the one I bought at CompUSA before I left, which naturally would not conform with Ukrainian protocols for PPP0e.
I also tried it in Kiev, its the new Sylvania GoS mini-laptop, and it wouldn't work in Kiev either, so I can PM someone my mobile, but chances are I won't be able to get back to the board once I have my piece of Japanese ka-ka back, even when I get to Kyiv, so.
I couldn't even get on in Amsterdam Schipol, I mean what the fuck is with the WiFi? You gotta pay 10 euros to surf the web in the fucking airport?
Oh well, I guess if the airlines are charging for a drink of water or a pillow or a blanket, why should WiFi be free, eh?
Anyway, kiev on Saturday, calling any Senior members for a pow-wow.[/QUOTE]Wow..... someone needs to stop eating that 'kakashka'!
LS Guy
[QUOTE=Cruiser D]
What do you mean your laptop doesn't work in Kyiv??
the only airport where Wifi is free is Borispil.
[/QUOTE]
Was that a trick queuncho?
I thought that EVERY U.S. airport, train, bus, and subway station, and bike rack HAS WiFi, that fact that its free is what I thought the whole point was.
If you're gonna charge for it, ya might as well be forced to plug into a terminal. Oh wait a tic, cell phones are wirelss, not free either. Uh......I guess I just figured that one out. Oh well.
As far as my komputor, its right up there on the technology scale with veebroters, eh......, that is, no. I plugged it into the DSL line available now in the flat, and it goes through all the steps, but when it gets to the last one, it should open up a website and start streaming, but it falls off and only keeps asking if I want to restart. What a great investment that was!
Guess I could have gone for the $1700 AirMac, but I couldn't get a sub sandwich loan or a Crunch bar form Corsair Deviate, and I needed every last kopec of financing for Olya, Yulia, Anya, and Polina, so I splurge-impulse bought the absolute cheapest piece of Bangladeshi crap that they make, the Sylvania GoS, that actually doesn't Go anywere. I guess they do make nice light bulbs, so laptops can't be any trickier, can they?
Ok, almost Last Call for Saturday in KBP? Anywho?
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Ok, almost Last Call for Saturday in KBP? Anywho?[/QUOTE]
Sorry Bez - I am stateside for another week. Won't be back in FSU until December. [i]Za vashe zhdrovya!!![/i]
I've never been to an airport in the US or any other airport in the world that has free public wireless except for Borispil. I don't know much about free wireless in the US because I have broadband cellular wireless (not free). I do know most Uni's and Colleges in the US do have free public wireless.
It's not so much that your computer doesn't work with the broadband in your apartment, you just can't configure it to work or don't have the right adapter. That is why I ask you what you meant. Your computer works just fine in Kyiv, it's Bez who's having the problem, also known as OE in tech support. :)
[QUOTE=Cruiser D]free public wireless /Borispil. [/QUOTE]Really? Never noticed! Don't tell anyone, they'll start charging.
Where is it free... after passport control as well, near the chronically crowded Irish bar with the shitty sandwiches?
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]As far as my komputor, its right up there on the technology scale with veebroters, eh......, that is, no. I plugged it into the DSL line available now in the flat, and it goes through all the steps, but when it gets to the last one, it should open up a website and start streaming, but it falls off and only keeps asking if I want to restart. What a great investment that was!
Guess I could have gone for the $1700 AirMac, but I couldn't get a sub sandwich loan or a Crunch bar form Corsair Deviate, and I needed every last kopec of financing for Olya, Yulia, Anya, and Polina, so I splurge-impulse bought the absolute cheapest piece of Bangladeshi crap that they make, the Sylvania GoS, that actually doesn't Go anywere. I guess they do make nice light bulbs, so laptops can't be any trickier, can they?[/QUOTE]
We're getting way off topic, but I thought that Sylvania was purchased by Siemens - wouldn't they want to put their own name on things? There's no reason to get an overpriced Mac (I've never liked Macs - I always thought the people that used them were vegetarian teachers with a bunch of gay friends, but I digress). I just bought a brilliant little Acer Aspire One with 160gb on its hard drive and a 1.6 mhz Intel Atom processor for $400. It weighs 1 kg.
[quote=blaked]
i thought siemens would want to put their own name on?
there's no reason to get an overpriced mac
i never like macs -people that use them were vegetarian teacher gays.
i just bought a brilliant little acer aspire one with 160gb and a 1.6 mhz intel atom processor for $400.
it weighs 1 kg.
[/quote]
balky!
well, er...., thanks, i think, for your brilliance and tech savvy sophistication, i'm not sure we could find our way through the dark maze of monger computerifications without your guiding light of wisdom, so you go boy! and fuck those apple asswipes!
yes, your little acer will work just fine, especially the tiny little undersized keyboard and micro-sized mouse-pad, are especially easy to use for dwarves and midgets with child-sized fingers.
i myself traded in that sylvannia pos for the lenovo ideapad in firered, same storage and speed, and price, as your acer, but the keyboard is bigger, and the screen is bigger, and its just my own preference, since after all, i've always used mac's at home, so you know what that means!
just because the dyevochkas insist i give them lessons in how to increase pleasure during reproduction exercises, and they happen to be my most eager students, doesn't necessarily equate to my mac over pc preferences, but for close-minded blinders-on thinkers out there, we'll just let you keep thinking your grumpy homophobic thoughts so you can swim in hate and fear, where you seem to be most comfortable. those of us on the other side, will continue to accept pussy licking instruction from our gay female friends, nothing wrong with being a lesbian trapped in a male body, my thoughts anyway.
ciao for now, brown cow!
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Come get me, you neo-con screwballs!
Dead or Alive!
Or in my case, turgid or flaccid!
Actually, its easier to hide, (and spell), when I'm bewteen Omsk and Toms'k.
Now, Ruzanna, I forgot to say, is from the Kuril Islands.
Pretty strange, I thought that was next to japan?
Starvinky, haven't YOU figured out that I also changed the name of the Prospekt??!! :p[/QUOTE]O.K.
Probably it was Mc Donalds in prospekt Oktobrianskaya in Minsk.
Guys I will appreciate ANY recommendation in the village of Penza.
I will be there sometime for business reasons.
Thanks
i don't have anything against girl-on-girl action... the kind of homosexuality that grosses me out is the male-on-male kind. the thing with this acer that makes me like it more than my regular notebook (a toshiba satellite) is that it's not a pain in the ass to lug around the world. when i'm at home, i plug in a keyboard and a mouse. there are rubber portable keyboards now available that can be easily stored in a bookbag. they can be bought at tsifrovoi centr and probably places like best buy in the us. the mini-notebooks were actually designed for children as part of the one-laptop-per-child initiative, which sought to introduce $100 laptops to africa so that every chile cud stan' up an' be accounted fo'. bbc world loves this story.
back to pussy!!! i ran into a good old-fashioned tochka in mitishi (yarslavskoe shosse) where prices started at 6500 rubles per night, and went up to 9500. it was rather funny because i stopped 50 meters past the girls and the guy behind me couldn't understand that he and his wife had to go around me so that i could back up and chat up the hobags. love.mail.ru seems to bee a good place to find p4p. when i was in kiev, i saw a lot of them in the internet cafe in the underground complex next to bessarabski market (near the sports bar at the arena where they had eurovision). my buddy yuri fucked this one blonde girl (pictured) that was about 24 that ended up latching on to him. he's a 35ish jewish muscovite that looks like tarantino (also pictured). the main technical reason i hate macs is that ipods convert everything to their own stupid transfer-proof file format.
[quote=bez bezarra]balky!
well, er...., thanks, i think, for your brilliance and tech savvy sophistication, i'm not sure we could find our way through the dark maze of monger computerifications without your guiding light of wisdom, so you go boy! and fuck those apple asswipes!
yes, your little acer will work just fine, especially the tiny little undersized keyboard and micro-sized mouse-pad, are especially easy to use for dwarves and midgets with child-sized fingers.
i myself traded in that sylvannia pos for the lenovo ideapad in firered, same storage and speed, and price, as your acer, but the keyboard is bigger, and the screen is bigger, and its just my own preference, since after all, i've always used mac's at home, so you know what that means!
just because the dyevochkas insist i give them lessons in how to increase pleasure during reproduction exercises, and they happen to be my most eager students, doesn't necessarily equate to my mac over pc preferences, but for close-minded blinders-on thinkers out there, we'll just let you keep thinking your grumpy homophobic thoughts so you can swim in hate and fear, where you seem to be most comfortable. those of us on the other side, will continue to accept pussy licking instruction from our gay female friends, nothing wrong with being a lesbian trapped in a male body, my thoughts anyway.
ciao for now, brown cow![/quote]
[QUOTE=Strike 69]Guys I will appreciate ANY recommendation in the village of Penza.
I will be there sometime for business reasons.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Dosug.nu seems to have a lot of Penza listings, mostly under 'individualki'. Penza should be cheap, because it's situated in an area where I've found cheap pussy recently (800p. in Saratov) via Dosug.nu. If you walk up to apartment doors in the areea that have a number and the word 'dosug' (probably a six-digit number for Penza), call them: those are escort services.
If you are lazy, some of the numbers are:
8 (902) 083-1040
8 (909) 316-1940,
8 (8412) 399-450
[QUOTE=Blaked]If you walk up to apartment doors in the areea that have a number and the word 'dosug' (probably a six-digit number for Penza), call them: those are escort services.[/QUOTE]Blaked,
I doubt if there are any doors in Penza with the word "dosug" written on them.
There may be some doors with the word "Досуг" written on them. :)
[QUOTE=Blaked]Dosug.nu seems to have a lot of Penza listings, mostly under 'individualki'. Penza should be cheap, because it's situated in an area where I've found cheap pussy recently (800p. in Saratov) via Dosug.nu. If you walk up to apartment doors in the areea that have a number and the word 'dosug' (probably a six-digit number for Penza), call them: those are escort services.
If you are lazy, some of the numbers are:
8 (902) 083-1040
8 (909) 316-1940,
8 (8412) 399-450[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much, I will be there in winter so I will really need some "warm female company". By the way I will probably be visiting this town more times, this one I will be staying in a hotel (there are 2 main hotels but they are little expensive, the Rossiya and the Penza Hotel I really hope they allow girls to the guest rooms withouth any problem) but I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to rent a cheap but decent apartment in Penza because I suspect appartments in Penza should be cheaper. Maybe I can book one through a website???
In this provincial town what would be the avarage price for p4p in your opinion? I want to know it in order to not over pay the girls and thus do not jaded them for other mongers. Or I better try more with non pros there ???
Thanks again
Some informations on Rostov?
[QUOTE=Strike 69]
In Penza what would be the avarage price for p4p
in your opinion?
I want to know it
in order to not over pay the girls
and to not jade them for other mongers.
Or I better try with non pros ?
[/QUOTE]
Don't worry about "average" price!
There is no "average", there is the price, and that's what it is!
The price is whatever the mafia says it is, whether that's 1000, or 1500, or 2000, what ever they say when you call, that's it. You might want to remember this though, if you are foreigner, and YOU call, it might be more than if you ask a local to call for you, but sometimes, even that doesn't matter. The dispatch woman who answer the phone probably doesn't give a flying fucking stupid shit who the fuck you are, because to her, the price is the fucking price, and thats the price, OK????
Oh, and it also doesn't make one fucking bit of difference about anybody's opinion of what the price is, BECAUSE THE PRICE IS THE PRICE!!
Uh,...so don't worry about that either.
Another thing to not worry about, overpaying the girls! If there is one thing that you DO want to do, its to OVERPAY!!
Huh??! What?? Overpay?? Yes, genius, if you get really lucky and they give you a really hot girl, GIVE HER MORE MONEY!!! That way, she'll keep coming back, AND do all the extras that she WON"T do, if you try to be a stupid cheap bastard!
The last thing you need to worry about is jading any girl for OTHER mongers! There AIN'T no other mongers going to Penza!! You got the whole fucking place to yourself!
Finally, yes sure, go on and try with non-pros, try all you want!! In fact, you should skip the p4p and get laid 3 times a day wth non pros! Hey, they're free, right? Uh,... unless you sponsor them, which is ok too. Just don't overpay, because you might jade them for Bez. :)
Just kidding, kiddo!
Take fotos, ok?
Tver
As I promised here the report of the city of golden ring I went.
First of all I have to say I decided to go to Tver cause somebody in the forum wrote this city has much more women than men, cause many men went to Moscow to work.... this is just a big bullshit cause after a week in Tver I can say men and women are 50-50, surely I saw much more women in Ufa.
I went to Tver during my third week of my staying in Russia, I had still tonsillitis for my smoking too many cigarettes, so my mood was not the best as you can easily understand.
I met the first day with a girl that was back from holiday from Cyprus and that she told me found there a boyfriend so I obviously no more meet her.
I met other 2 girls but maybe I was me not in mood, maybe Tver is too sad and ugly city, I do not know, but after 3 days I realized it was better to leave.
I asked to some taxidriver if there was a tochka they said, in Tver the only place to get pro it is sauna, so far as I was a bit sick I did not try sauna.
I stayed at hotel Seliger and I asked twice to the girl of the floor if I could have a girl for the night and she always said in this hotel they do not provide prostitutes.
The hotel was so russian style made me feel ever worst.
The only good thing that there are many kafe bar with free wifi net.
In the same building of my hotel there was the best one disko in all the city, klub Zebra...the first evening I arrived I went there and the stupid bodyguard, surely arrived from some small village, full of steroids smiling told me, I am foreigner so I could not get into the klub.
It made me so angry, that I asked why many times, but he smiled proud that he could decide who goes into and who not.....I decided to check who was smarter between this moron and me...
I went to the reception of the hotel and speaking loud and angry I said in english: I am here with busines visa as you saw, I am here for work, I need to have internet connection, you do not have this in your hotel, in the next door in the klub Zebra the man did not allow me to get into or you do something or tomorrow I call my business partner in Moscow that choose and reserved this hotel for me and he will surely will come here to speak with the director of this so called hotel.
She told me, she doesn't understand english, and I knew it, so I said more or less the same things in russian.....thanks to Ufa my russian as I noticed was much more good I could even imagine....maybe I was really look like angry,but she immediately went to the klub and after one minutes she came back and said all is ok...I went again to the klub and he smiled to me, from that day I never had problem to get into....and I learned that better to be a good man only in my home place or in west europe, in Russia much better to be a bastard the same as they treat us foreigners.
So I decided in about 3 days to leave Tver but I had to decide where to go, so far as I like to use s7, I saw for the little price of 1.200 rubles I could go to Kazan or Samara...one muslim city, Ufa, was more than enough, so I choose for Samara and in that moment I did the biggest mistakes of this long holiday...to choose the agency stay in samara....soon I will report about it.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Get business visa and you will travel from Moscow to Vladivostok without no one problem.[/QUOTE]
BTW Luka.
Isn't registration a problem if you stay in an apartment with a business visa ?
I myself had a business visa when I was in Tashkent and my apartment landlord was unable to register me, as he could have done it if I had a tourist visa. The authorities told him that registration for a business visa holder must be made either by a hotel, either by the company that provided the visa support (in my case, I ignored which company it was), and in any case NOT by a private landlord.
The result was that I had to find a hotel that accepted to register me (with a fee) without that I stay there. One finally agreed for us$6/day, so $300 for the whole stay. :(
Is the Russian business visa registration procedure as restrictive ?
[QUOTE=Prosal]The result was that I had to find a hotel that accepted to register me (with a fee) without that I stay there. One finally agreed for us$6/day, so $300 for the whole stay. :(
Is the Russian business visa registration procedure as restrictive ?[/QUOTE]
I've always been on business visas and never had an issue. But yes, it's best if you work with the company/organization that issued your invitation. Typically they only have to go to the post office to register you these days.
Privet Prosal, I guess it is different the way to get register in Uzbekistan and in Russia. As Pizdyets said actually they go to post to register you, it is just a fee they pay.
From now I will always take business visa, cause you pay a little more than turistic but it seems works much better, cause as I wrote I took care to be registered only once,when I arrive to Moscow, then in Tver they did not gave no one registration, maybe cause I always paid 2 days per time and even in Samara they did not registered me. In Ufa they asked me if I want to be registered, I said yes, but I lost the registration paper of one week.
There is many wrong info about registration, the only thing I know for sure is that I trusted only the company that in my home town provided me visa, they said by e mail it is enough once and they were right :)
[QUOTE=Prosal]BTW Luka.
Isn't registration a problem if you stay in an apartment with a business visa ?
I myself had a business visa when I was in Tashkent and my apartment landlord was unable to register me, as he could have done it if I had a tourist visa. The authorities told him that registration for a business visa holder must be made either by a hotel, either by the company that provided the visa support (in my case, I ignored which company it was), and in any case NOT by a private landlord.
The result was that I had to find a hotel that accepted to register me (with a fee) without that I stay there. One finally agreed for us$6/day, so $300 for the whole stay. :(
Is the Russian business visa registration procedure as restrictive ?[/QUOTE]
Prosal
As you found there is usually a way around registration. The hotel may have gouged you a bit at $300.
Perhaps a little more looking around may have found you a better price. Your apartment guy should have had a solution for both tourist and biz visas. Maybe a good question to ask prior to renting a flat.
Like most things it may depend on who you talk to.
I remember in Moscow I did the registration at a travel agency on the 6th floor of the Peking Hotel in the center for around $50 for a biz visa. Was stopped by the Militia on that trip and all was well with the visa.
Guido88
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]
I never had an issue, if the company that issued invitation only go to the post office to register you.
[/QUOTE]
No Police??
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]No Police??[/QUOTE]
BB, not sure I'm understanding you. For one thing, I never get stopped by police on the streets. I'm not Russian, but I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum from the "ethnic" types whom militsia usually shakes down. For another thing, I [I]always[/I] register within 3 days of entering Russia, so even if I were stopped, I could tell them to fuck off.
Or were you talking about how to register? Hotels will do it, or you can do it at the post office. No need to go to the police station, MID or OVIR these days.
I'm simply talking about registering, so that when you leave the country, and they check your papers, you don't get hassled about it and get stuck paying a fine.
Since I NEVER stay in a hotel, I always have my travel agent who invites me, take my passport to the police, and they always charge me anywhere from $120 up to $250, depending on whether the apartment is registered with the police as a "foreign rental", and whether I show up at the agency on Saturday morning before noon, which is a really big hassle, since I always arrive on Friday night around midnight, so I really prefer to sleep in, after unpacking and unloading my first load with a fresh dyevochka, and I kind of need my passport those first few days, to change a dollars to rubles, and to get my sim card, etc.!
Beacuse if I wait until Monday morning, then I missed the 3 day limit, and then the agency charges me about $300 or $400! Fucking criminals!!
So its still really a big PAIN IN THE FUCKING ASS!
So are you saying that I can go by myself to the post office and register, or does the travel agent still have to go for me?
And do I still have to go on Saturday morning, or can I wait until Monday?
Bez....why you go to make everything so difficult ?
Why to have your travel agent to invite you ?
Why do not stay for 3 days in very cheap hotel and get registered for free ?
Find in net, as I did, the company that provided you the cheapest business visa, find the cheaper hotel and stay there 3 days and then you free as bird to go and to do whatever you want....is this not much easier than what you did ?
...and it is free hassles at all !
Bez, dude...
If someone is telling you that you must register with the police for $250 when you are in Russia, then you are being seriously ripped off. Better find another travel agent.
It is now possible for a foreign citizen to register in Russia at the post office. Yes, I know, I didn't believe it myself until I personally went to the glavnii pochtamt, but civilizatsia presholl (or is it preshlah?). Of course, you gotta speak the lingo. The dyezhurnaya at the kassa ain't gonna speak English and there are no English forms to fill out.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]It is now possible for a foreign citizen to register in Russia at the post office. Yes, I know, I didn't believe it myself until I personally went to the glavnii pochtamt, but civilizatsia presholl (or is it preshlah?). Of course, you gotta speak the lingo. The dyezhurnaya at the kassa ain't gonna speak English and there are no English forms to fill out.[/QUOTE]
Yup, BB's being taken for a ride! And as I recall, it's 3 working days.
And Strav... it's цивилизация пришла. :)
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]And Strav... it's цивилизация пришла. :)[/QUOTE]I knew you would have the answer... :)
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Yup, BB's being taken for a ride! And as I recall, it's 3 working days.
And Strav... it's цивилизация пришла. :)[/QUOTE]
Mo-debly 3 WORKING days. For example, if you enter Russia on Friday at 5:00 PM, you have until the following Wednesday at 5:00 PM to get your shit together.
I know this because last time, I was in Russia, Moscow Star Apartments registered my visa for the normal $55 fee. I was starting to panic because I had been in Moscow for 2 days and Irina didn't have time to do it that day and went on the explain the requirements. Apparently, the burden of responsibility is on the office registering your visa. If they see that you have been in the country for more than 3 WORKING days, then they can get into trouble if they register your visa.
And if you are on a business visa no one seems to give a crap. Last April, I was in Saint Petersburg for a week and had my visa registered. Then I went to Ufa for a a few days and no one batted an eye. When I arrived in Moscow, I completely forgot about registering the visa. By the time I got around to getting it registered, I had been in Moscow for almost a week. Moscow Star didn't have any trouble because there was nothing to proven when I had actually arrived in Moscow.
I was staying in an un-registered apartment, so the travel agent used that as an excuse to charge me more money to register. I arrived late Friday night, and was humping dyevs till dawn, and I also thought it should be 3 business days, not calendar days, but the agency said NO! The other problem was that it was some holiday on Monday which I was not aware, so the registration office closed down after noon, and I didn't roll into the agency office until 2:00 pm. So I had arrived on Friday, and the agency didn't get my passport to the police until Tuesday. So I paid too much. Big deal! The sweet dyevochkas more than made up for the pain in my wallet.
Next year I will take my landlady with me to the post orifice, and tell my travel agent to stuff it! $30 for tourist invite is all they're gonna get this time.
I don't need no biz visa, cuz I'm stayin' put. I got so many sponsorettes already lined up waiting for my arrival, I only have enough time for eating, drinking, fucking, and sucking. Kinda like Tony Montana, you CONYO cockroaches!!
NOW MUCH MORE IMPORTANT!
DOES THE NEW BLACBERRY STORM USE A SIM CARD??
I JUST GOT THE SAMSUNG INSTINCT, BUT I WONT BE ABLE USE IT OVER THERE, BECAUSE SPRINT SUCKS DONKEY DICKS, SO I CAN TAKE IT BACK AND JUMP TO VERIZON, UNLESS THEY PULL THE SAME LAME CRAP.
ANYBODY KNOW THE DILLIO?
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]I So I paid too much. Big deal![/QUOTE] You are absolutely right - when you compare that to what you (we) spend on dyevs, it's a bit of a rounding error.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]
NOW MUCH MORE IMPORTANT!
DOES THE NEW BLACBERRY STORM USE A SIM CARD??
I JUST GOT THE SAMSUNG INSTINCT, BUT I WONT BE ABLE USE IT OVER THERE, BECAUSE SPRINT SUCKS DONKEY DICKS, SO I CAN TAKE IT BACK AND JUMP TO VERIZON, UNLESS THEY PULL THE SAME LAME CRAP.
ANYBODY KNOW THE DILLIO?[/QUOTE]
Yes, the Storm uses a SIM card. How could it not?
I don't have the Storm, but have been using the Bold since September and it is great. Haven't even got half-way through the features, which are much enhanced from my previous BB, but love the GPS and map app. On my last trip I searched and marked the location of the Palace FKK, so I could take public transit there with confidence. Fabulous tool for travelling some place where you don't speak or read the language.
Who can give me informations?
I will be in Rostov mid January.
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Yes, the Storm uses a SIM card. How could it not?
I don't have the Storm, but have been using the Bold since September and it is great. Haven't even got half-way through the features, which are much enhanced from my previous BB, but love the GPS and map app. On my last trip I searched and marked the location of the Palace FKK, so I could take public transit there with confidence. Fabulous tool for travelling some place where you don't speak or read the language.[/QUOTE]
Russia and Ukraine operate on a European GSM standard. That means that if you're from the states, the only phones that will work will be the kind offered by T-Mobile or AT&T/Cingular. These work with the American GSM network, and you'll want to shop around specifically for a quad-band phone - a 'world phone'. American phones are usually locked to their networks so you'll need to unlock your phone or buy an unlocked phone - plenty are available on Amazon. The Nokia N95 is by far the best, but if you just need something that will work in a pinch, get a RAZR or a Motorola Motofone F3, which retails for $35 on Amazon.
The three mobile phone companies that operate in Russia are MTS, Beeline, and Megafon. These are 'pay as you go'. None offer national roaming rates, so it's best to buy a new sim in each city you visit. They cost between 5-10 dollars and usually include certain amounts of minutes. My favorite plan is Megafon's 'Ediniy' plan that offers international calling for 12 cents a minute. 'Life' is Ukraine's least expensive phone company.
I think it would be cheaper to unlock the phones than buy even the cheapest phones on amazon.com or eBay.
I've had a number of phones unlocked for me in Berlin & Warsaw. In Warsaw it cost me about 20pln (5 Euros) to unlock a simple Nokia to about 100 pln (25 Euros) to unlock the iPhone. In Berlin the prices were a bit higher.
I'm sure you can go to any second-hand cell phone joint in Moscow or other bigger city and they will take care of the sim lock in 5 minutes for probably no more than what it cost me in Poland.
[QUOTE=Blaked] American phones are usually locked to their networks so you'll need to unlock your phone or buy an unlocked phone. Plenty are available on Amazon.
The three mobile phone companies that operate in Russia are MTS, Beeline, and Megafon. These are 'pay as you go'. None offer national roaming rates, so it's best to buy a new sim in each city you visit. They cost between 5-10 dollars and usually include certain amounts of minutes. My favorite plan is Megafon's 'Ediniy' plan that offers international calling for 12 cents a minute. 'Life' is Ukraine's least expensive phone company. [/QUOTE]
I ended up getting something that I can't use when I go, because my company are a bunch of total cheap assholes. SInce I found an account that was being directly paid for at corporate, bypassing my local A/P department, that no one had used for years, I insisted they give me the biggest credit they were allowed, which was 3 months service, about $150. So I used that to get the Instinct, which is just easier for texting, not that I text that much here, compared to candyland, when I'm texting non stop 24 seven.
So the phone basically cost me nothing, plus they'll send me a $100 rebate in 3 months, which I'll pocket, since this company is vastly underpaying me, for the 60 hours a week I'm giving them simply trying to keep my head above water, and not drown, in the deluge of complete bullshit makework paper chase, of one million per cent bullshit CYA garbage, that is the business of government handouts and death.
Of course, after trying and not liking at all, the new Blackberry that clicks, I was simply not aware of any other good deals on new touch screen cell phones, besides the I-phone, which still costs $200 minimum, but now I see there are a multitude of them, so I might just see what bargain I can find when I go over to candyland in springtime.
My other personal preference is something very small and light, since I'm always banging into stuff when the phone's on my hip with a belt clip case, and the Instinct is not that small or light. The phone I just saw this weekend that looked cool was a small white oval model with no name, that was a new touch screen, at a Verizon kiosk in circuit city, but again, no SIM card, and it did not have a prce listed, but it was much smaller and quite a bit thinner than my Instinct.
Too bad I can't find something as cool as my Samsung UH-100, the thinnest phone in the world, barely bigger than a credit card, but not very easy at all for texting, but I paid way too much for that, in 2007, in Ukraine, about $180!
I liked it a lot, though, because I was using it here in the US with my ATT sim card, though the signal was a problem inside my apartment, and at my old job. Now that I'm working in the city center, no more problems with that, but now its sitting collecting dust on my dresser, as I'm going it alone with the Instinct. I will use it on my trips though. Oh yeah, and Sprint charges 20 cents a text for international sms, with NO promise that my sms will actually get through, from their network to any Russian or Ukrainian network. What a bunch of huy!
Anybody been there ?
Any info ?
Okay its not Siberia, but the Urals must have something to offer with all the oil workers :D
Cheers
[quote=nauskas]
anybody been there ? okay its not siberia, but the urals must have something to offer with all the oil workers :d
[/quote]
oh yeah, perm has sponsorship university students lined up around the block waiting for foreign invaders and conquerors, boatloads of vikings ready to disembark off their longboats.
their swords are sharpened steel and their shields are broad, pillaging and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url]. the head of the snake, boy. that is power. human flesh. i gave you that desire. contemplate this, on the tree of woe.
[quote=bez bezarra]oh yeah, perm has sponsorship university students lined up around the block waiting for foreign invaders and conquerors, boatloads of vikings ready to disembark off their longboats.
their swords are sharpened steel and their shields are broad, pillaging and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url]. the head of the snake, boy. that is power. human flesh. i gave you that desire. contemplate this, on the tree of woe.[/quote]
is there someone able to give some useful input ?
ben-
your photos are great, but a poetry run seems to be a new approach for you.
Can someone give us some information about Murmansk?
I have been there 8 years ago and had a lot of funn, but I dont see much information from this place.
I am interested in information about strip clubs and escorts etc.
Is the prices same as petersburg?
Would someone go to Murmansk if the trip is the same as to Petersburg?
Thank you.
There seems to be a disctinct lack of information on the whole of the Republic of Tatarstan. If anyone could correct this matter it would be appreciated. Cnacibo
Would need help in kransnojarsk.
Will be there for a week
Don't speak Russian
Anybody has a contact or recomendation there?
Thank you
Well, its now been a week, out here in the provinces.
Don't have time now to go into lots of detail, but I can report, that its now almost impossible to get any fotos, they are ALL paranoid about the internet, so if I somehow are able to get any, you'll probably complain that they aren't good enough anyway.
I've had some success from the internet, some from local agencies, but I am really struggling with new sponsorships. I'm being told, that its exam time, and that the reason I had so much more interest a few years back, was because I came here in the summer, and University students were not thinking about anything but having fun.
I did get lucky with 2 students, who were really hot for it, I barely turned up the burner to medium, and had them crawling up the wall,. But there's so much more to do. Gotta change apartments, gonna upgrade to a bigger and more comfy spot, with mirrors on the ceiling.
I'm putting the word out for a monger's meeting in Moscow, after May Day.
Anybody in town on May 2nd? That's 2 weeks after tomorrow, the first Saturday of the month......
Any ideas?
Bez Bezarra in Moscow? как может быть?? (how can it be)
OMG - Stop the presses, alert the Kremlin!!!
Bez, how long will you be there? Just 1 day?
anyone got any ideas? or info?
Roger Mellie,
What ever is your reason to go there I have some guidelines for you.
If you watched the news you maybe noticed that russian forces stationed in Grozny as "war deployed" units started to pull out. So it can mean that violence can spread once again this time Chechen on Chechen. So common sence tells you to avoid Grozny.
Vladikavkaz is defintelly place to avoid since it's crime ridden town and you as not being local can be targeted for anything. Even kiddnaped for ransome (seriously). Other places near are Nalchik and Pyatigorsk which are just shit holes. Then there is Stavropol which can look ok but it's just a huge military base.
My personal choice would be Krasnodar. OK maybe it's not exactly North Caucasus but it's close enough. Certain number of foreigners are going there using Krasnodar as starting point to climb to Elbrus peak. There's a possibillity to score with some foreign climber chick who wants to climb on something.
But if you're into working girls and p4p then Krasnodar will not dissapoint you.
There's plenty of that. You can find russian, ukrainian, chechen, georgian girls. But pay attention to this. According to official statistics Krasnodar is russian capital when it comes to STD. There's plenty of it. I've just read article in moscow papers saying "15 year old prostitue in Krasnodar spreads STD to 137 of her customers". Advice is to be very carefull where you're putting your little friend.
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[QUOTE=Kurenda] I've just read article in moscow papers saying "15 year old prostitue in Krasnodar spreads STD to 137 of her customers". Advice is to be very carefull where you're putting your little friend.
[/QUOTE]
RM - don't forget to pack the Zithromax in case the condom breaks! On the other hand, you can buy it OTC at any apteka in Russia. Ask for 3x500mg of Сумамед (sue-mah-MYED).
[QUOTE=Kurenda] I've just read article in moscow papers saying "15 year old prostitue in Krasnodar spreads STD to 137 of her customers". Advice is to be very carefull where you're putting your little friend.
[/QUOTE]Condoms condoms condoms.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]My personal choice would be Krasnodar. You can find georgian girls.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't it Krasnodar region Governor who recently proclaimed that he wanted to send away all people whose last names had suffixes such as "adze", "idze", "ishvili", "ashvili", ect (all typical georgian suffixes) ? ...a pity as many georgian women are ridiculously gorgeous.
Anyhow, I have a friend (french) who owns a latin bar - Havana Cafe - in Krasnodar. He often told me that it's a quite enjoyable city which furthermore carries an outrageously high number of hot women of all types. His bar works pretty well BTW, certainly a great place to score.
RM, if you ever go in Krasnodar, I can give you his number. He now lives there permanently (and even imported his 1500cc Harley-Davidson!). Drop me a PM if needed.
- note to self : gotta go there someday -
Condoms yes, but article said most customers of the girl got STS "by oral meaning"?
Proposal, last year I read article in russian newspaper about a crime in Krasnodar. It said a 14 year black digger was payed 1000 rubles to put a bomb under car of local businessman. Which he did and killed him.
Also the kid was payed another 1000 rubles to put a bomb in the local bar owned by foreigner who drives around on the motorcycle.
Nothing happened because the kid was aressted before that.
Your french friend or just a coincedance?
And yes Krasnodar gubernator is already sending away Georgians who are illegally living in Krasnodar.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]Also the kid was payed another 1000 rubles to put a bomb in the local bar owned by foreigner who drives around on the motorcycle. Your french friend or just a coincedance?[/QUOTE]
A foreigner owning a bar and driving a motorcycle. It's surely not a coincidence.
We haven't been in touch since a few monthes but I just sent him a sms to know the story.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]Condoms yes, but article said most customers of the girl got STS "by oral meaning"?
[/QUOTE]Oral = AIDS/SPID= not very likely. Do some research.
I do not doubt a pro was spreading AIDS, but the stat seems very very skewed.
Anyway... there is a whole 'nother thread on that.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Oral = AIDS/SPID= not very likely. Do some research.
I do not doubt a pro was spreading AIDS, but the stat seems very very skewed.
Anyway... there is a whole 'nother thread on that.[/QUOTE]
That's for sure. Shelbysbaker did some great research on AIDS transmission from female to male under normal (vaginal) conditions. Even with a fully infected female, transmission rates are quite low (less than 1%). For chlamydia and the clap, MUCH higher (up to 50%). So I'm guessing they were not talking about AIDS, but probably chlamydia. But like Doc said, there's another thread for that.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Bez Bezarra in Moscow? как может быть?? (how can it be)
OMG - Stop the presses, alert the Kremlin!!!
Bez, how long will you be there? Just 1 day?[/QUOTE]
no need to stay longer, as i am now officially hitting the big time here in the provinces.
as usual, just as my two weeks are coming to an end, i am finding the gold mine i was looking for the hole time, hehe.
so instead of leaving now as i have done 20 times, i'm staying on.
yes its getting expensive, though i hit a freebie yesterday that wa a solid 9, and i lost count of her orgasms after 4, but.....
now comes the real fun
SO ANYONE IN MOSCOW ON MAY 2ND, OR AM I THE LONE GUNMAN AGAIN!!!!!
Good question.
When we, Italians, have met young Slavic prostitutes doing swallow blowjobs to everybody (elders, dirtiers and drug-addicted too), we have wondered the same question.
I met three of those prostitutes who can do everything without condom, for years and years, and it seems nobody of those have a STD.
Here in Italy, the public health service offers free check-up to prostitutes, and those prostitutes, who are discovered to have STD, are take out of their work, in theory.
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]That's for sure. Shelbysbaker did some great research on AIDS transmission from female to male under normal (vaginal) conditions. Even with a fully infected female, transmission rates are quite low (less than 1%). For chlamydia and the clap, MUCH higher (up to 50%). So I'm guessing they were not talking about AIDS, but probably chlamydia. But like Doc said, there's another thread for that.[/QUOTE]
What is Zithromax?
What do you think about Miramistin?
I read Pharmatex avoid pregnacy but promote AIDS?
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]RM - don't forget to pack the Zithromax in case the condom breaks! On the other hand, you can buy it OTC at any apteka in Russia. Ask for 3x500mg of Сумамед (sue-mah-MYED).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Acolonizer]What is Zithromax?
What do you think about Miramistin?
I read Pharmatex avoid pregnacy but promote AIDS?[/QUOTE]
Zithromax is one of the branded names for azithromycin which is the generic name. It's also known as ZPak in the USA. It's basically a "howitzer" dose of antibiotics. As Pizdyets said it's, Sumamed in Russia and in Brazil it's also available over the counter as Azitromax and Zitromax.
I usually keep some on my shaving bag when I travel to treat sinus infection after a long plane flight. I find that by the time I get to a doctor and get a perscription it's too damned late so I like to keep some handy and stock up when I am in Russia or Brazil as it's available OTC.
But it does not hurt to take it if you ever have a condom break or (God forbid) you get drunk and have unprotected sex. It probably won't help you with AIDS but it will kill all sorts of bacterial "greeblies" that might attacking your system. There's two schools of thought however, when it comes to the AIDS virus. If your body's immune system is compromised due to cold, flu, or lack of sleep you stand a better chance to avoid infection from AIDS. The other side of the coin is that while antibiotics do a good job of knocking out routine biotic infection, they can have a temporary negative affect on your immune system.
Miramistin? Good question. I had a girl try to give me a CBJ once in Moscow and I stopped her, saying that I did not enjoy CBJ and that I preferred that she just not bother. She said, "no problem" since I seemed pretty clean she would give me BBBJ but wanted to spray her mouth with Miramistin before starting and then again after she (I) was done. I certainly didn't notice any effects other than it facilitated BBBJ!!!!!
Afterward, I was curious and did some research online. Have you ever read the info on the web site? Frigging hilarious. I'm surprised that they don't say that it cures cancer too!!!!!!!
This is from their web site:
About the drug.
Myramistin - is an antiseptic of the wide range of action. It is used in many fields of medicine. The unique qualities of Myramistin, which can destroy almost every infection, make it an irreplaceable drug for a home medical chest. Myramistin is successfully used for disinfection and healing of wounds and scratches. For example it is possible to use Myramistin to treat a child's wound which he got during a walk or a play, instead of traditional green or iodine. This will not only disinfect the wound but can also fasten its healing. Moreover the procedure is absolutely painless. It can also aid in healing of trophic] ulcer and, which is of primary importance, causes no allergic or toxic reactions. Myramistin is an irreplaceable aid in treating various burns, such as ordinary and solar burns. It is simply enough to put a hankie, moistured in drug on a burned place and the absence of painful blisters is guarantied. That is why it is useful to take it on vocations, especially dew to the fact that it doesn't require lots of space in a travel beg (it's in a flat 100 ml tube).
Myramistin successfully handles herpes, stomatitis and angina. Throat and oral cavity rinsing will help to handle the disease as fast as possible. In cases of herpes, put a tampon, moistured in Myramistin on a wound. After several procedures, all symptoms of the disease will disappear. It can also help to handle teenage acne while being used for face rinsing.
Myramistin is used for preventing and treating dermatomycoses. It is necessary each time after visiting a seeming pool to rinse nails, skin near them, space between the toes and feet with a tampon with Myramistin. Be sure to dry your feet, drying water in skin folds and bends.
Myramistin is a great prophylactic of venereologic diseases.
It destroys pathogens, which are transmitted during coitus, such as syphilis, gonorrhea, trichomoniasis, clamidiosis, and genital herpes.
Myramistin will help you even if your condom is torn. The main thing is to use the drug not later than in two ours after the coitus.
Myramistin will stand in use not only for your family but also for your pets. The drug solution is used for wound treatment, ears rinsing, for treating clutches after splinter evolvement. It is also used as ear drops, and for treatment of mixed ears and tails.
It is high time for you to try this treatment, as the advantages of it are uncountable!
How's that for no help at all?
Thanks for information.
I haven't understood if Zitromax is similar to Augmentin, my favourite antibiotics.
About Miramistin, I think its best use is before and after uncovered coitus as an antibacterial disinfectant. Prostitutes (prostitutes are women payed to make sex) usually make uncovered fellatio without an antibacterial disinfectant, except for a water cleaning, sometimes. In prostitutes' behaviour, any kind of time waste is good to get money without work.
Moreover, why isn't Miramistin sold in Europe? It seems like some drugs sold in USA but not in Europe because they have one or more carcinogenic substances. For example, the famous anal whitening are considered potentially carcinogenic.
And about Pharmatex, what do you think?
[QUOTE=Jake993]Zithromax is one of the branded names for azithromycin which is the generic name. It's also known as ZPak in the USA. It's basically a "howitzer" dose of antibiotics. As Pizdyets said it's, Sumamed in Russia and in Brazil it's also available over the counter as Azitromax and Zitromax.
I usually keep some on my shaving bag when I travel to treat sinus infection after a long plane flight. I find that by the time I get to a doctor and get a perscription it's too damned late so I like to keep some handy and stock up when I am in Russia or Brazil as it's available OTC.
But it does not hurt to take it if you ever have a condom break or (God forbid) you get drunk and have unprotected sex. It probably won't help you with AIDS but it will kill all sorts of bacterial "greeblies" that might attacking your system. There's two schools of thought however, when it comes to the AIDS virus. If your body's immune system is compromised due to cold, flu, or lack of sleep you stand a better chance to avoid infection from AIDS. The other side of the coin is that while antibiotics do a good job of knocking out routine biotic infection, they can have a temporary negative affect on your immune system.
Miramistin? Good question. I had a girl try to give me a CBJ once in Moscow and I stopped her, saying that I did not enjoy CBJ and that I preferred that she just not bother. She said, "no problem" since I seemed pretty clean she would give me BBBJ but wanted to spray her mouth with Miramistin before starting and then again after she (I) was done. I certainly didn't notice any effects other than it facilitated BBBJ!!!!!
Afterward, I was curious and did some research online. Have you ever read the info on the web site? Frigging hilarious. I'm surprised that they don't say that it cures cancer too!!!!!!!
This is from their web site:
About the drug.
Myramistin - is an antiseptic of the wide range of action. It is used in many fields of medicine. The unique qualities of Myramistin, which can destroy almost every infection, make it an irreplaceable drug for a home medical chest. Myramistin is successfully used for disinfection and healing of wounds and scratches. For example it is possible to use Myramistin to treat a child's wound which he got during a walk or a play, instead of traditional green or iodine. This will not only disinfect the wound but can also fasten its healing. Moreover the procedure is absolutely painless. It can also aid in healing of trophic] ulcer and, which is of primary importance, causes no allergic or toxic reactions. Myramistin is an irreplaceable aid in treating various burns, such as ordinary and solar burns. It is simply enough to put a hankie, moistured in drug on a burned place and the absence of painful blisters is guarantied. That is why it is useful to take it on vocations, especially dew to the fact that it doesn't require lots of space in a travel beg (it's in a flat 100 ml tube).
Myramistin successfully handles herpes, stomatitis and angina. Throat and oral cavity rinsing will help to handle the disease as fast as possible. In cases of herpes, put a tampon, moistured in Myramistin on a wound. After several procedures, all symptoms of the disease will disappear. It can also help to handle teenage acne while being used for face rinsing.
Myramistin is used for preventing and treating dermatomycoses. It is necessary each time after visiting a seeming pool to rinse nails, skin near them, space between the toes and feet with a tampon with Myramistin. Be sure to dry your feet, drying water in skin folds and bends.
Myramistin is a great prophylactic of venereologic diseases.
It destroys pathogens, which are transmitted during coitus, such as syphilis, gonorrhea, trichomoniasis, clamidiosis, and genital herpes.
Myramistin will help you even if your condom is torn. The main thing is to use the drug not later than in two ours after the coitus.
Myramistin will stand in use not only for your family but also for your pets. The drug solution is used for wound treatment, ears rinsing, for treating clutches after splinter evolvement. It is also used as ear drops, and for treatment of mixed ears and tails.
It is high time for you to try this treatment, as the advantages of it are uncountable!
How's that for no help at all?[/QUOTE]
Yes, anyone knows how to get it in Europe, as it seems to me it is not sell under another name, you cannot get it at all in the old Europe.
Some company it sells it by internet ?
Why Miramistin is not sold in Europe?
Probably because somebody needs to pay big money for testing or something.
To order on the internet this place sells drugs from Russia and EE:
[url]http://www.pharmacy1010.com/myramistin.html[/url]
Yes, I don't remember correctly, but I could get it by a Canadian on-line pharmacy (for a higher price) and by directly the Miramistin manufacturer (but it doesn't deliver outside Russia). For your information, I payed 199 rubles (4,5 euros) for the big spray bottle in a chemist's in the center of Moscow.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Yes, anyone knows how to get it in Europe, as it seems to me it is not sell under another name, you cannot get it at all in the old Europe.
Some company it sells it by internet ?[/QUOTE]
This is an interesting article about some diseases in oral sex:
[url]http://www.from-ua.com/news/d6dbd5788d0e1.html[/url]
It seems papilloma is contagious by mouth and cancer is more probably by frequent deep throatings.
The common sense could suggest this article is reliable but real life is pretty different: in fact if this is true, our hospitals should be full of ill women because of oral sex.
Soon I will be in Penza!
How and where to catch the best freebies?
What is there now the usual price for a night?
[QUOTE=Bram Roels]Soon I will be in Penza!
How and where to catch the best freebies?
What is there now the usual price for a night?
[/QUOTE]
Just go wave yer dick around!!
That always works for He Who Must Not Be Buggered.
But his brother-in-law is the Regional Kommander of the State Security Organs, and an FSB Colonel, so he gets whatever he wants, or its bing bing, know what I mean.
Best spot is the old kafe near the war monument by the Oblast Interior Ministry building, on Red Army street.
But of course your best advice should come from the lumberjackster himself, he's the all-time authority in town.
By the by, I hope he's the one that invited you, otherwise you'll have some 'splainin' to do.
If not, we'd all love to know exactly who DID invite you, and where ya staying, and why?
Just remember, this ain't Kansas, okay Toto?
[QUOTE=Bram Roels]How and where to catch the best freebies?
What is there now the usual price for a night?[/QUOTE]Freebie = free.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Freebie = free.[/QUOTE]
Not so fast, Doc...
There is almost always *some* cost involved, whether it's emotional or monetary. In fact, of countless "freebies" I've had over the years, I can't think of one that was both "no strings attached" emotionally and cost me absolutely zero (not one drink, one coffee, metro/bus/taxi fare, etc...)
You're gonna sweat over a coffee or a metro token?
You're no cheapskate, Piz, but even a market savvy monger as yourself, knows the difference between pro's, amatuers, and girls that are completely unmotivated and uninterested financially when it comes to relationships. Why on earth would you go so far as to concern yourself over coffee? You spend 50 times that much on taxis, door charges, and your own booze before you even talk to a girl.
The Doc is talking about scoring with a girl that you meet or pick up, that doesn't want anything from you when she is leaving your apartment.
That is not a new concept for you either, you work in the big city, when you go out after work and someone that knows you tries to hit on you, of course that's a freebie, in the concept of NOT paying for sex.
Sure, its gonna cost you in other ways later on, but its still a freebie, in terms of this guy, Bram Roels, question about "where and how to find freebies". Even Doc missed his point, that his second question IS NOT even about freebies, but about what the current p4p price is for an all nighter.
Even an over the hill duffer like the Bez gets lucky with a freebie every so often, I met one this time and last time that would not let me give her a single kopek. After she screwed my brains out, I even tried to give Tanya some gold earings, and she refused. All I was able to give her was a teddy bear that I paid $2 for at some toy store. The other one just wanted a long hot bath in the jacuzzi and a romp in the sack, and some beer, but no money. Since when am I gonna worry about spending $3 on beer?
If those aren't "freebies", then exactly what is??
When you're at the point that you're now measuring your own personal emotional costs as a factor to get pussy or not, you've got way too much pussy, and you need to start posting on Dr. Phil and Oprah's blog, not ISG!
Bez,
Chill dude.
Jeez, everybody's a critic...
Bram Roels some info for you.
Penza is very provincial place with population of half a million.
It pretends to be regional educational centre with six universities and whole bunch of other educational institutions.
But number of students is not very big since small number of them comes to Penza for education and those from Penza rather go to cities around like Nizni Novgorod, Kazan and Samara. To taste life in bigger places since Penza don't offer much.
"How to catch freebies" - well it will depend on your own skills but without russian language you will not go far in Penza.
If you're interested in p4p it is not that wide spread and quality is not high.
There's a story of popular 50 year old Tatar woman who gives a great blowjobs for like 300 roubles. If interested find her in main railway station Krivoozerovka simply know as "Penza 1".
To meet girls (whatever you're interested in freebies or pros) check small bars and caffes on Gladkov street (this is old historic street), for night time fun check clubs named Stereotip, Kvadrat, Stanciya, Scandal Project. You will need local information to find them.
Good place to check is "Kukolni Dom" ("House of dolls") which is local doll theatre and also children's railway. Plenty of single moms bring their kids to this two places so opportunity is there.
Since it is nice weather now take a stroll down the bank of Sura river, there are lots of people walking or sitting there including plenty of girls. But they are usually in the big crowds and not alone. You'll need nerves to deal with usally drunk and obnoxious young people.
A word of warning. It seems that Penza is regional center of RusTrans. No it is not a transport company but Russian Transsexuals. There are few bars exclusivelly for them and they like to gather in the dense woods around Penza and do whatever they do. So if you see a bar full of muscular chicks check first who they are. People in Penza are not willing to mention this fact.
I've been to Penza several times on my Volga tours and it's a place in which you can see everything interesting in two hours and staying there more than 3 days can be boring. Exept there's some good reason to stay longer.
Whould I recommed somebody to go to Penza? No for various reason.
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...I always guess how can be big the potencial of get freebie when one is working and living in Russia for long time and I mean at least 6 months.
I mean when you meet regular girl at supermarket, when you go to swimming pool, lessons of dance, salsa, merengue or whatever or to Gym.
Also when you live there, you have a lot of time, you are not in hurry, this make you really relax, cause if you not score this week, so next week or month, sooner or later you get really many girls with almost no money at all. Something as Essi in Moldova I guess.
Am I wrong ?
Pizdyets tell us the truth and let us dream for free ;)
Specially thinking that I am sure with russian girls it happens the same as czech and slovak girls, that once you get good friend, sex is almost a normal thing as between two men to take a beer together, not as in west europe where even with a very good and long friendship with a woman, you hardly can wait it ends in the bed...
I really would like to live and work in Russia to try it. :)
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Not so fast, Doc...
There is almost always *some* cost involved, whether it's emotional or monetary. In fact, of countless "freebies" I've had over the years, I can't think of one that was both "no strings attached" emotionally and cost me absolutely zero (not one drink, one coffee, metro/bus/taxi fare, etc...)[/QUOTE]To define "freebie" I would say is any girl you bed that you didn't spend more on than you would a normal date.
Sometimes it is absolutely free, for example a girl you meet in a disco and take home or an internet girl that comes to meet you for a walk in the park and ends up getting face fucked before dusk.
As soon as monetary or pricey gifts are involved, it is more of a sponsorship/semi-pro thing.
Another way to quallify a freebie is a girl you've screwed before but will come over on a bootie call, drink whatever you have in the house whether it is Martini Extra Dry or simply bottled water, screw you as long as you want and then disappear into the night when you want to get some sleep... or stay til morning to iron your shirt for your 9am meeting. That's quality poon.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]...I always guess how can be big the potencial of get freebie when one is working and living in Russia for long time and I mean at least 6 months.
I mean when you meet regular girl at supermarket, when you go to swimming pool, lessons of dance, salsa, merengue or whatever or to Gym.
Also when you live there, you have a lot of time, you are not in hurry, this make you really relax, cause if you not score this week, so next week or month, sooner or later you get really many girls with almost no money at all. Something as Essi in Moldova I guess.
Am I wrong ?
[/QUOTE]I'm not a permenant Russia resident, but have been spending more time there and the dynamic DOES change if you have more time in country.
Just off hand, I've noticed 2 main differences in my attitude and success:
1) with no time pressure and knowing you can always get a 2nd or 3rd date to score on, there is less pressure and the dates are relaxed and subsequently so is the girl. Scoring is no longer a pressure game, but more of a waiting one.
2) Back to point one, with the pressure off I have been putting on less pressure myself. It's led to some relaxed "fuck friend" relationships, but the edgy "I am going to fuck somebody tonight" is often missing and this element is a good one to have if you are looking to score often and fast.
Can't say yet if I am scoring less or more than before.
And another bad thing about "going native". If you live in a town, it is hard to hide your identity or disappear. Any girl who has been to your permenant apartment or knows your friends is a potential headache after you are tired poking her.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Bez,
Chill dude.
Jeez, everybody's a critic...[/QUOTE]
Just sounded a bit off coming from Pizzy, he's a man of means, and taste.
We've narrowed our choices down to two destinations. Could anyone please give a comparison between Ufa and Samara in terms of strip clubs and regular nightlife and in general the quality of the girls? We booked our flight on Delta out of NYC, 350 round trip in May, it's ridiculously low. S7 fares to these destinations are about the same. I'll post upon return. Thanks everyone in advance.
I have been in both in october-november 08... read older post you should find some infos ;)
I've been to both Samara and Ufa several times.
Both places have their ups and downs but I would give advatage to Ufa.
Both places are similar in size, Samara 1, 1 milion and Ufa a little less.
But Samara is more "provincial" than Ufa.
Duging soviet times Samara (then known as Kubishev) was a closed city due to military industries and this closed mentality of the people is stil noticed today. Also in Samara attack on foreigners of all kinds are regular thing.
Also people from Samara have criminal reputation in Russia for various reasons. Recently I read in Russian newspaper two articles how a criminal gang consisting of people from Samara was arrested in Moscow and how several policeman were arrested in Moscow because of corruption. They all were from Samara also. Besides Lukasek wrote here in forum about his experiance with apartment rent in Samara and it was not a positivie one.
In the last few years Ufa developed much more than Samara thanks to oil and foreign investments, night life is definitelly better in Ufa and in my opinion Ufa is somehow cheaper place than Samara because of the better choices for hotels, restaurants and night clubs.
As for girls it's more mixed in Ufa for those who like it exotic because of the large Bashkir and Tatar population which is about 50% of the city. Opinion is they are more willing to put up to westerners for several reasons.
In my experiance Bashkir girls prefer anal sex in order to stay virgins.
But in my opinion there are better places in Russia to visit that Ufa or Samara since this places will probably need some experiance in the terms or Russian language knowledge and getting around in Russian provinces.
But to conclude if you need to make a choice between Samara and Ufa then the answer is Ufa.
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Let's write something more, so far as maybe you are now reading my report from there ;)
I would choose for sure Ufa, Samara is very complicated when you are gonna to move from your flat to the center or to the bar and so on.
Samara is pain in the ass, for how many cars they are and how few and little streets the city has. You really are gonna to spent much more time sitting in the taxi going from one place to another than in the bed with a girl....
Ufa is much easier and gives the feeling the city is much smaller and indeed it isn't...
Ufa has that club, suggest me from the great Jake993 that is Jet Club, great restaurant at first floor and on weekend at second floor disco full of so hot girls....but, but....
More than one girl told me, that the river of Samara are used by many girls during spring and summer as beaches to get tanned, full of bars and people out there.... I have no idea if it is true or not, so far as I was there in winter, but i saw the beaches and if they are full of girls, maybe Samara will not so that bad, even if, I will always choose Ufa, much easier and a bit cheaper too.
Ufa as capital of Baskiria republic, is muslim city, but you neither notice it, both cities are very safe, I was always walking and take taxi alone, never got problem....besides I almost fall in love, but it is another story ;)
The quality of girls, is the same, you will notice no difference and as always, to find pro, it is enough to stop taxi and ask the magic word called "salon" or simply ja hocu devuski.
However so far as to fly there from Moscow is very cheap, you could maybe go to both city remembering that airport of Samara is really far from the city and yes, Samara is larger but more complicated and more dirty city. A lot of powder there in the streets in october, I cannot imagine in may....
Ufa seems more wealthy city.
Whatever you will choose....I would like to be at your place sooo much :)
I hope it helps at least a bit...
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Just sounded a bit off coming from Pizzy, he's a man of means, and taste.[/QUOTE]
No harm - no foul. I was just being the pedantic literalist fuck I usually am. That said, it did spur a more interesting conversation than the monthly post of "where I find Slavic girls on internet who want swallow my cum?"
But I think there is some truth in the maxims "Nothing in life is free" and "There is no free lunch." I'm not complaining about it, just stating that when sex is involved, there are almost always either strings or money attached. If you don't like it, then you better look at changing your sexual orientation.
Samara is a dirty city and sprawling, but that's not much different from any other big Russian city that's not Moscow or Piter. Just be sure to stay in the center and you'll have a good time.
The most elitnie klubi are Aura and Zvezda, and when you ask girls on the street the best clubs they will tell you these two. They're also the most expensive (of course) and in my opinion the hardest to score at. Much better are Metellica and Polet (Polyot) which are where the students hang out and get sloppy drunk for cheap. They are both very big clubs with multiple dance floors, so lots of targets if you strike out once (or even more than once).
The only strip club is Pablo Esco Bar, which is right in the center but I forget the name of the street. Cover is 500 RUR and lap dances are whatever you want to pay (but 100 RUR is minimum). I went there once and treated the girls well and then happened to run into one at a club later, worked out well for me!
I'm not into pros, so I can't help you there.
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]No harm - no foul. I was just being the pedantic literalist fuck I usually am. That said, it did spur a more interesting conversation than the monthly post of "where I find Slavic girls on internet who want swallow my cum?"
But I think there is some truth in the maxims "Nothing in life is free" and "There is no free lunch." I'm not complaining about it, just stating that when sex is involved, there are almost always either strings or money attached. If you don't like it, then you better look at changing your sexual orientation.[/QUOTE]I will to these wise words just say AMEN!!
[QUOTE=Sean EZ] regular nightlife [/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.geometria.ru/[/url]
Great resource to know where to go out and what's "in" from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok.
Most russian cities are covered, plus a few others in Ukraine and Belarus. Also a multitude of fototeki-galleries about nightlife/social life.
A lot of replies, thanks to everyone I appreciate it. I guess Samara is out of the question )
[QUOTE= Kurenda]But in my opinion there are better places in Russia to visit that Ufa or Samara since this places will probably need some experiance in the terms or Russian language knowledge and getting around in Russian provinces.
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Kurenda, which is your favorite city? I don't know why we picked these two destinations. We are looking for city that is not too small with good nightlife and quality and well dressed girls. Language is not an issue, I speak Russian.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I have been in both in october-november 08... read older post you should find some infos ;)[/QUOTE]
Thanks Lukasek, I read all of your reports!
Hey Prosal how have you been my friend? I'll check out the site. My fav city in the old SU is Minsk, I spent 2 brutal winter months there and never got a cold. I think P4P there is virtually non-existent, but I didn't need to. Clubs are full on Sundays and Mondays. This time only going for a few days, want to see some place else.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]
I've been to both Samara and Ufa several times.
But in my opinion there are better places in Russia to visit.
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You left us hanging, please finish....
Spasiba.
For those who want to stay away from Moscow and St. Petersburg I recommed any siberian city which is big enough.
First on the list is Ekaterinburg which is amateur porn capital of Russia, then Novosibirsk "capital" of Siberia, Krasnoyarsk which is a little on the average side but girls are not demanding, etc. These are big places milion and up, foreigners are not a usual thing exept for backpackers, etc. But my favourite city is Ulan-Ude, I just love those Buryati chicks who are in dilemma to keep their modest behaviour as tradition calls or just keep it slutty as they really are. Metro and Fabrika club there are chick magnet, Proposal mentioned Geometria so check this link:
[url]http://ulanude.geometria.ru/gallery/35588[/url]
Funny as "other areas" suddendly get busy thread ;)
I got immediately homesick for provincial Russia LOL
SeanEZ I have a good friend living in Moscow, he is from Vladivostok, and travelling in west Russia for business, he told me, that almost every city out of Moscow and Piter are the same and no differences. So I just choose almost random from cities where s7 flyes and I start to collect contacts from mail.ru.
Regarding Samara, Latexian2 wrote good, I forgot the names, but now I remember, so I add few lines.
Aura and Zvezda are almost the only two discos there, but they work only on friday and saturday. Never been to zvezda but about Aura on saturday night, it is very packed and I was the oldest one there, I am 34yo, almost only teenager and even if I spoke with a couple of girls and I was the only one turist there, they did not seem interested.
Metallica was told from many taxi it is a place it does not worth, never been there, but I went almost every night, it is open 7 days per week to Polet, it is in two floors, full of students but I was almost the only one not drunk and once I had 3 skinheads came to me asking where I am from, I was for a bit afraid, but at the end they thought I was maybe from Cecenia or something like that, I am white skin but dark hair and eyes and when I said I am italian, they just laugh and it was ok. Another problem with Polet that first time I went there the 2 bodyguards did not want to let me inside, second day with a girl, she said I was her host and it was ok.
Even if you stay in center of Samara, actually the so called center is only a 4-500 metrs street called, if I remember well, lenina ulica, you are still far from the clubs but ok, in this street you have good restaurant, the best one is Marlin, but pay attention, enough expensive...
The best experience from Samara was then the man called from the taxi came up with the girl to check if I really lived alone in the flat and in that moment I asked her phone number, so from that day I was able to get pros directly delivered to my flat. The best memories the last day when I told him, tomorrow I leave, he arrived with another friend, so 2 cars and 8 girls to choose, 1 hour about 54 euro.....great for sure !!!!
However for me Ufa is much better, gave me the feeling of much more wealthy city and as muslim country you have girl more mixed and beautiful.
Wherever you go, go to sauna and let them call girls or use taxi to call man who deliver girls and ask him phone number so second time you avoid to pay the fee to taxi driver and so it get really cheap :)
If not Samara or Ufa I would give a chance to real Siberia as Tomsk or Omsk, but I believe to my friend, once you left Moscow and Piter no big difference where you end.
Have super fun and post report to make all us dream ;)
p.s. Kurenda, better place about girls, historical city or what else ?
p.p.s. SeanEZ read also what I wrote about Piter, cause even now I am not so sure it worth it to go so far to provincial Russia, cause the quality is more or less as you find in Piter, the prices too using photomodeli.ru but at least Piter is a really great city and you have disco as Rossi's where is open everyday and full of students....to make long short, check provincial Russia but if it does not work as you want, not spend so much time as I did and comeback asap to Piter.... imho.
I think for an inexperienced foreigner wanting to go to the provinces the easiest locations in terms of travel and accomodation are the golden ring (yaroslavl and vladimir in particular).
However, if you want to try something more adventurous I would recommend the old cities in european russia (Smolensk, Oryol, Voronezh, Bryansk, Pskov, etc.). These are all relatively close to Moscow (5-10 hours by train) and tend to be pretty impoverished compared to the Volga/Urals region which means things are slightly cheaper and girls somewhat lower class (good for quick scoring). But most importantly they tend to be more compact and interesting from an architectural and historical point of view so even if you are waking up at 2pm every day after boozing/partying/fucking all night you can still spend an enjoyable afternoon at a few museums or just strolling (gulyating).
I also wanted to expand on what I said about clubs. If you ask girls on the street what the best clubs are, the answer they give you are almost certainly clubs you want to avoid. I talked about Aura in Samara. That club is double to triple the cover charge of other clubs (500 RUR instead of 150 or 200) and the only cheap beer is some horrible Russian ale that was 200 RUR a bottle (80RUR a pint in the other clubs). And when I went the ratio was actually more men than women and most of the girls were with guys (who were paying for them). What this means is that these elite clubs are of course what a girl will tell you to go to, because she wants you to take her and she would never go to such a club by herself or with her girl friends (except maybe for special occasions such as a birthday party). It's much better to find the normal or even cheap clubs where girls go to let off steam on fri/sat for cheap and to dance and go wild, instead of the elite clubs where they can hardly afford a single cocktail unless you're buying.
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About Samara, Lukasek is right. Aura and Zvezda are two only real places for night time, they are open only of Friday and Saturday. Aura is only for high school kids, and even younger people goes there so it can be problematic. In the style you talk to the girl who says she's 20 years old but in fact she's 15.
In Zvezda is little better, older crowd mainly students. Popular place for students of SGAU, but when I was in Samara in January it was closed, there was a fire in the New Year. Don't know if it's open now.
Mettalica and Polet are opened every night. Mettalica is not bad place if you can handle loud music. I was there several times on gothic night. You know chick with dark clothes, dark har and make up he he. Polet is good also but problem is as Lukases said most of the guests are drunk. Polet serves cheap drinks but many guests bring their own drinks bought in the stores so they get drunk even harder. Also in polet fights are normal things. It is usaly in the style Lenin reon against October reon where 20-30 guys from one part of the town fight against similar group from other part of the town. Then police comes and close the club so it is ruined evening.
Samara is transportation problem because Samara actually became city only in soviet times and before that it was a gubernia of 16 villages and also not much was invested in unfrastructure. Because Samara during soviet times was closed city because of the military and aerospace industry. So free travell of the people was not allowed. Much more was invested and done in the city close to Samara - Ulanovsk. Which is normal becuase lenin was born there.
P4p is not widespread in Samara but sure something can be fins in the city of almost 1,2 million people. Taxi mafia is always helpful but I also heard there are sw in Gagarina street. I checked this but nothing much it looks like nothings is happening there, I've seen only few sw middle aged and with great mileage.
I once spent 4 months in Samara and it's not that bad for me now but I wouldn't recommend Samara to someone who is sitting at home and thinks "I want to go to Russia and which city to visit? Samara maybe?"
If comared to Samara Ufa is much better choice in every aspect. I've been to Ufa several times for a short staying but it was very obvious Ufa is more modern place. Oil money is there with foreign investments while in Samara there mostly state owned companies. Ufa has a large muslim population (Bashkirs and Tatars) but 54% of population are not muslims. So it is like in other russian cities with large muslim population Ufa wants to show it self as modern and cosmopolitan place and not a place where some backward islamist live. So they are very open to everythnig "modern". People are very open and willing to help in everyway. But in my opinion this is typical behaviour in Russia, not becuase they like you or respect you but becuase they want somethnig from you (mostly your money). I beleiev many here will agree. While in Samara typical attitude is "this is Russia and we don't care for you". I like Samara because of that somehow.
So Lukases said it right outside Moscow and piter is more or less the same with some differences. In Moscow many people regard St. Petersburg as province also. In Siberia I would recommend Ekaterinburg and Novosibirsk for sure. Big places Novosibirsk is among 5 biggest russian cities) and they offer everythnig you can think off. The only problem is they are far away. Yes there are flights to there but I usually go by train. You meet various people when travelling few days by train, girls included which can be good afterwards. Also the problem is climate it is cold even in summer.
And Lukasek is basically right. I think there's no real need for a foreigner to go to any other place in Russia besides Moscow and St. Petersburg. Maybe there's some good reason like business trip or some really hot girl (on the scale 1-10 she's like 12+) which for some reason refuses to leave her home city and doesn't want to meet you in Moscow even if you pay for the trip. But she promised 10 days of wild sex and this is reason to visit her.
In provinces I don't think it will be superior in anything and if you're interested in siberian girls I'm sure there's plenty of them in Moscow.
We can see in this forum from time to time people ask for advices on some provincial city but never post any useful report about it. Which probably it can mean two things:
1. Their visit to that provincial city never happened and they have nothing to say.
2. They went there and hundreds of girls heard about their coming and stand in line to spread their legs for them. So now they keep it as a secret and don't want to share it with us here on forum.
Think which of this two is more realistic option.
Also if we check Russia forum for other cities (beside Moscow and St. Petersburg) they are pretty much dead. Which speaks enough for russian provinces. Once I was in Yakutsk in the middle of winter and there's not much to report about that place. Russian guy there simply told me "It's very cold here to do anythnig. To keep warm you should find a woman or vodka. Vodka is much easier to find".
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Good thinking Latexian2.
There are interesting places around Moscow, like 2 hours away by train. Beside Yaroslav and Vladmir good option are also Tver, Kaluga, Tula and Rjazan. But for those who are charmed by Moscow most of this places don't have much to offer so they will problabyl be disspointed.
Pskov is good option for those staying in St. Petersburg since it's close to it.
But Pskov is basically huge military base where like half population of the place is military personell. And great number of girls have somehow strick patriarchate/soviet/military upringing which makes thing hard. In the style "my father is military colonel and I must be at home by 22:00".
What Latexian2 said about Aura club in Samara is true. Very expencive place, men:woman ratio is like 3:1 if not more. Most of those guys are wannabe mafia types, but mostly fakes who want to show off.
But this is normal in Russia (and not only in Russia). Most girls will want you to take them to expencive places which they can not afford but you will pay for them because you're a foreigner and it's nothing for you to pay for that.
Because your monthly payment is like 10 000$ or so.
In Samara a girl wanted me to take her to Aura club together with a wagon of 3 her girlfriends. But I new the trick I told them I didn't came to Samara to spend my time in some noisy night club full of smoke, etc. It worked and we spend the night (and later also) with buying the beer and snacks in the store and walked down the Volga, talking. And this continued latter at my place so it was much better option.
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[QUOTE=Kurenda]
In provinces I don't think it will be superior in anything.
We can see advice on some provincial city but never any useful report.
Which probably it can mean:
They went there and girls heard about their coming and spread their legs for them.
So now they keep it a secret.
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The advantages of the provinces is very easy and simple, if you are determined to hold to your principles to limit mongering to university and institute students age 18-19 years, with an occaisional cheating to 20 or 21 years, but only to be generous and not a real asshole about it.
First advantage is accomodations. To get a nice apartment that every dyevochka is really impressed with, on the very center of the main street in the city center, it is never cheap, but in the provinces, it is still affordable, which is not possible in Moscow or St. Pitr, AND to save a lot of money on food by doing all my own cooking and also cooking for my girfriends instead of taking them to restaurants too. I only need to walk 4 blocks to a new upscale supermarket that has anything I need, but it is not cheap at all, 2 bags full of groceries will cost me 2000 rubles, but its all top quality with ikra and Beluga, or I can go 3 blocks the other way to the open bazaar to get fresh fruits, nuts, and vegetables, fish, eggs, cheese, fresh baked bread, its just very easy and conveniant. I don't even lose weight anymore when I go. Plus the rose market is there, evey dyev gets fresh flowers, except the escorts.
After internet girls and sponsorships, the new girls from the escort agencies still only cost 3000-4000 rubles for 2 hours, and if they are great, they come back for half price. The escort services are not doing good business with the crisis, so if they bring any dyevs I refuse, they always come back within a day or two with someone fresh and new.
And you can get phone numbers for freebies by being persistant and polite, from any cute girls that work in the bank, the mobile phone store, waitresses, etc.
If I try the same in Moscow or St. Pitr, it might work if I was young and attractive, but I'm not, so I does what I can where I can when I can, and it all works out fine. For me.... ;)
So the more you guys think the provinces are not the best option, the better. PLEASE follow the advice of these experts and stay in Moscow and St. Pitr!! :D
[QUOTE=Kurenda]Good thinking Latexian2.
There are interesting places around Moscow, like 2 hours away by train. Beside Yaroslav and Vladmir good option are also Tver, Kaluga, Tula and Rjazan. But for those who are charmed by Moscow most of this places don't have much to offer so they will problabyl be disspointed.
Pskov is good option for those staying in St. Petersburg since it's close to it.
But Pskov is basically huge military base where like half population of the place is military personell. And great number of girls have somehow strick patriarchate/soviet/military upringing which makes thing hard. In the style "my father is military colonel and I must be at home by 22:00".
What Latexian2 said about Aura club in Samara is true. Very expencive place, men:woman ratio is like 3:1 if not more. Most of those guys are wannabe mafia types, but mostly fakes who want to show off.
But this is normal in Russia (and not only in Russia). Most girls will want you to take them to expencive places which they can not afford but you will pay for them because you're a foreigner and it's nothing for you to pay for that.
Because your monthly payment is like 10 000$ or so.
In Samara a girl wanted me to take her to Aura club together with a wagon of 3 her girlfriends. But I new the trick I told them I didn't came to Samara to spend my time in some noisy night club full of smoke, etc. It worked and we spend the night (and later also) with buying the beer and snacks in the store and walked down the Volga, talking. And this continued latter at my place so it was much better option.
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I myself LIKE older women around 30 (its old for some of you guys, NOT for me) I myself have a different approach When Blake introduces me to a crowd of people ( I dont have very good social skills) we go for dinner and drinks like 7 or 8 people sometimes more. I ALWAYS pick up the tab.. At the end of the night I usually GET the best looking girl. Sometimes they are 21years old or so. Yes women attract to men that are generous in Moscow... This approach DOES NOT WORK in North America. Its a freebie, but really it isnt after all the costs ... We pay either way directly or indirectly. I am tired or lazy NO times for games or courtship I just want SEX and I want it now. I still perfer P4P myself.. I am getting old. thank God for VIAGRA
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]The advantages of the provinces is very easy and simple :D[/QUOTE]
I totally agree. My main concern is I can't get bottle service at a club in Moscow (and my fav ones are Rai and Opera at the time I went). It literally costs thousands of dollars. Even when you go on a date, starting out with dinner + taxis + an all nighter at a club you are down 500 bucks at the end of the night.
Whereas in Minsk you pay a minimal cover, get a best table at club Africa, hookah, appetizers, a bottle of vodka with chasers, and a few drinks for the girls and the bill is hardly $100. I spoke to a friend who lives in Yaroslavl', she told me there is a new club, the table (with bottles) cost 3500 roubles. And that's not far from Moscow at all. I am sure it's similar in the provinces.
I love the abundance and quality of gucci-clad Moscow girls, the way people know how to party, the food, etc. I only wish I could afford it more often! Good thing a dollar buys you more roubles now, at least for now.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]Big places Novosibirsk is among 5 biggest russian cities[/QUOTE]
Frankly after reading your quite depressing (and undoubtedly very accurate) description of a typical russian provincial city like Samara, I really don't understand why adventurous mongers in search of untapped "Lost El Dorados" rarely consider Tashkent as a valuable option.
It's the third largest city in FSU after Moscow and SPb, cost of life is ridiculously cheap, apartment rentals are easy to arrange, people are hospitable and non-threatening, street crime is non-existent, there's a profusion of incredibly diverse tall and good looking women of all hues (incl. lots of russian-ethnic dyevs), an astonishingly good regular nightlife with lots of great "in" cafes and a dozen of happening clubs where drinks cost next to nothing, four or five defined P4P locations (discos) with tons of not overly jaded quality russian pussy for reasonable rates, ect ...
I'm admittedly not as well-travelled in this part of the world as most of you guys but IMHO Tashkent blows many other FSU destinations (incl russian provinces) out of the water.
About provinces it is a simple deal.
Somebody will find it good and simple and somebody will not.
For me provinces are much better than Moscow or St. Petersburg.
In Russian my plan is simple: stay as much possible and spend as less as possible. Spending 500$ a night in Moscow is somethnig I don't wanna do.
But I can stay in Russia for two months and spend less than 500$ on everythnig you can imagine.
Sean when you talk about spending 100$ when was it? Few years back maybe? Night time in Minsk is not that cheap anymore. Check club "Next" for example where entrance will cost you 50-100$ per person. In the last few years Minsk wants to be Moscow's little brother with saying "When Moscow farts Minsk stinks". In Russian provinces it is the same there are some very cheap places but also very expencive. For local standards, for Moscow it is cheap. In Yaroslav 3500 roubles is half of somebody's monthly salary.
Proposal he he please don't call my report depressing. Because I want to show things as they are. In Russian streets you will see many people who look depressing and angry as foreigners will describe them but in Russian opinion Russians are happy people.
About Tashkent probably there are some logistical problems to go ther like getting a visa (not much embassies in the world) air flights (Moscow is much better connected) and probably thinking Tashkent is muslim place. And when you say "many of blond haired blue eyed Russian-ethnic dyevs" basically they are mostly of german origin (Stalin ordered massive moving of Volga Germans in 1941) and also of Polish origin (Stalin ordered massive moving of Poles from eastern Poland in 1944 which is now western Ukraine and Belarus). For example I know for sure (checked local archives) that Polish population of belarus town of Novogrudok (Poles made more than 60% of total population)was moved to Tashkent and Bishkek in October and November 1944.
[QUOTE=Prosal]
I really don't understand why adventurous mongers rarely consider Tashkent as a valuable option.
It's the third largest city in FSU,
cost of life is cheap,
apartment rentals cost almost nothing,
people are hospitable and non-threatening, street crime is non-existent,
a profusion of incredibly diverse tall and good looking women of all hues
IMHO Tashkent blows russian provinces out of the water.
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Maybe now you'll undertand, Sally.
God bless the glorious Motherland!!
And as Borat plainly explained in his epic film of Cultural Learnings, "Fuck you fucking Uzbekistan!!"
In my normal class, ratio of 12 dyevs and 1 malchik, after class study program for extra credit and an easy passing grade always available for the happy styudenka sponsorship. Even Life Saviour doesn't get it this easy in Kiev!
Another happy day at the institute, that includes my own more than satisfactory diversity of ethnic variety and 'hues':
[QUOTE=Kurenda]
Sean when you talk about spending 100$ when was it? Few years back maybe? Night time in Minsk is not that cheap anymore. Check club "Next" for example where entrance will cost you 50-100$ per person. In the last few years Minsk wants to be Moscow's little brother with saying "When Moscow farts Minsk stinks". In Russian provinces it is the same there are some very cheap places but also very expencive. For local standards, for Moscow it is cheap. In Yaroslav 3500 roubles is half of somebody's monthly salary.[/QUOTE]
I spent 2 months in Minsk in the winter of 2008. I used to frequent Africa and Madison. They were particularly packed on Sundays/Mondays with college chicks. There are a couple of other clubs that are somewhat more expensive because they serve expensive cocktails. Same girls. I find it hard to believe that a club in Minsk charges 50 to enter. 150,000-300,000 roubles cover? I haven't been to Next, must be a new club, there must have been some concert or an event. Read again what I ordered (with Belarusian bottle of vodka), it was always under 100.
Cheaper college clubs like Alcatraz, Max Show you can get vodka shot for a buck. The most expensive cocktail was at a small place (nice date place, always empty on weeknights), I forget the name now, behind the big palace, enter through small alley, small outdoor dance floor, lounge chairs upstairs, strawberry mojitos were like 50K (so over 20 dollars back then).
[QUOTE=Kurenda]About provinces it is a simple deal.
Somebody will find it good and simple and somebody will not.
For me provinces are much better than Moscow or St. Petersburg.
In Russian my plan is simple: stay as much possible and spend as less as possible. Spending 500$ a night in Moscow is somethnig I don't wanna do.
But I can stay in Russia for two months and spend less than 500$ on everythnig you can imagine.
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I hear ya, bro. Like all the girls in NF, I'm in Moscow for the money - just a different type of ho. If I were after cheap pussy, provinces is where it's at.
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Sean when you talk about spending 100$ when was it? Few years back maybe? Night time in Minsk is not that cheap anymore. Check club "Next" for example where entrance will cost you 50-100$ per person. In the last few years Minsk wants to be Moscow's little brother with saying "When Moscow farts Minsk stinks". In Russian provinces it is the same there are some very cheap places but also very expencive. For local standards, for Moscow it is cheap. In Yaroslav 3500 roubles is half of somebody's monthly salary.[/QUOTE]
I haven't been to Next, but hit a lot of other clubs there - Alkatraz, Goodwin, Madison, Bronx... and none were even close to the prices for Next. How do they get anyone in there? BTW, I found it was just as easy in Minsk to pick up girls in Il Patio or Planeta Sushi as in the clubs - and a lot cheaper. White God factor is very high, especially if you're a Westerner who speaks fluent Russian.
As for Yaroslav - heard lots of good things, but it's small... hard to cover your mongering tracks if you intend to stay there very long.
Next club in Minsk is new place opened in January 2009. It is located in Crown plaza hotel which is very expencive so the club it self is also expencive. There's also club Black Door in Minsk which is expencive also.
The problem for the high prices is people coming from Moscow to Minsk for party. Those people have money but not enough for Moscow. But their money is big for Minsk. Also a easy pick up girl in Minsk has a very good chances she's not from Minsk at all but from Russia mostly Moscow. There are many students from Russia in Minsk because Minsk is much cheaper place for study. Many of those people actually claim to be from Minsk for various reasons one of the main is that Moscow is not a very popular in Minsk.
St. Petersburg is more prefered. In Minsk club scene is simple every place must have two permits from the government. One from ministry of economy and one from ministry of interior. This two permits are hanged near the club entrance and must be renewed every 4 months. Now some people from Moscow bring their money and open new club and bribe someone in the government to close some club to pick up the clients.
Maybe we should move this discussion to Minsk thread already :)
When I was there one of more expensive places was NLO (probably still is). I would only be happening on weekends, and I found that there were always more guys in clubs on weekends vs weeknights. In the expensive places you would find more stuck up girls (better dressed though) and girls with guys who pay for them to get in. Other clubs had college nights pretty much every week night of the week.
The Black Door (I think also referred to as Cafe Vienna) was always empty, and inside it looks like an average decent Manhattan lounge with decent mix of traditional european/american food and some chinese. Nothing to write home about.
I didn't run into sponsorship at all though. Most girls were 18-21 and just wanted to have a good time. I'd slip 50 or 100K taxi money to my regulars as if I didn't have smaller bills, but I didn't have to. However recently searching 20-22 yo on mamba I'd say about one in every 20 girls looks for sponsorship. Maybe times have changed.
In Minsk you meet girls everywhere, metro, street, by McDonalds, doesn't matter really. Visa is an additional cost but I was never asked to show passport anywhere including on the overnight train from Moscow. It must be amazing now in May, short skirts and pedicured feet.. I hear a lot of them go back to their towns during summer months though.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]Next club in Minsk is new place opened in January 2009. It is located in Crown plaza hotel which is very expencive so the club it self is also expencive. There's also club Black Door in Minsk which is expencive also.
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Sean, we're not into the same group.
I like them "older" and anywhere in the FSU I don't connect with people (both males and females) who are younger than 24. It is just a rule I have.
I met in Minsk many girls from Russia who study there and it seems they bring the idea of sponsorship. Many of there are interested in idea. Again most of them can not cope with competition in Moscow so they want to try it in Minsk.
When you mentioned train from Moscow keep in mind there is no border between Russia and Belarus so there's no passport checking of any kind.
Yes during summer Minsk lose a lot of it's student population, they go back home to their native cities. During June-September period many places for nigh time tend to look empty.
I'm off to Belarus soon for a few months but I plan to completelly avoid Minsk and go to several other places.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]When you mentioned train from Moscow keep in mind there is no border between Russia and Belarus so there's no passport checking of any kind.[/QUOTE]I assume this only applies to Russian citizens. Foreign citizens would still need to have the proper visa for both Belarus and Russia. Right?
Strav yes. If you're foreigner and take a train from Moscow to Minsk no one will check your passport but it means you'll still have to have a valid visa for Belarus. Actually there are no checking at the border since there's none but there are random police controls once the train enteres Belarus. Mostly this will happen in town of Borisov where police will enter the train and take the ride back to Minsk. Usually conducter will tell them if there is something out of usual and they will come to check. I experianced this several times but no big deal if you have a visa of course. Check your Russian migration card it is obvious it is valid both for Russia and Belarus. But having only Russian visa (or belarus visa) it doesn't mean you can stay in Belarus (or Russia if you have only belarus visa) with Russian visa only. Some years ago there was a rule if you have a valid 30 day Russian visa you could stay in Belarus in transit for 5 days but it is not possible any more. A typical thing is some people still travel by train from Poland to Russia crossing through Belarus. And most of them have Russian visa only thinking it is enough. But no, at the border in Brest they are regulary kicked out back to Poland if they don't have a valid belarus visa or belarus transit visa (valid for 3 days the same as Russian).
Also there is a strange rule for example if you arrived to Russia and got the stamp in the passport and then go to Belarus and you want to go to Poland or Lithuania in msot cases they will not let you crossing the border. They will say if you entered through Russian then you must leave through Russia also.
The same is if you enter Belarus from Ukraine and got belarus stamp in the passport, Russians will not let you go to Estoni or Finladn for example through their border. This moslty happens on Russian borders in european part don't know about the situation on Russian border with China for example.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]I assume this only applies to Russian citizens. Foreign citizens would still need to have the proper visa for both Belarus and Russia. Right?[/QUOTE]
I always had my papers in order (Belarus visa stamp), went back and forth between Moscow and Minsk and there is no visa check of any kind and you are not required to carry your passport in Belarus. Next time I'll just take a chance without the visa. The visa costs 230 dollars (next day) + insurance and the consular staff are assholes.
How expensive is Ufa? Reading reports about all the oil money and foreign investments.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]Strav yes. If you're foreigner and take a train from Moscow to Minsk no one will check your passport but it means you'll still have to have a valid visa for Belarus. [/QUOTE]
It's probably good idea to have one, but what's the worst that can happen. Just play dumb you didn't know, like Kurenda said the migration card says Belarus-Russia. You def need one if you leave Belarus to Ukraine or another country (any country other than Russia). This only applies to trians, you need visa if you fly in/out of the country no matter which one.
[QUOTE=Sean EZ]I always had my papers in order (Belarus visa stamp), went back and forth between Moscow and Minsk and there is no visa check of any kind and you are not required to carry your passport in Belarus. Next time I'll just take a chance without the visa. The visa costs 230 dollars (next day) + insurance and the consular staff are assholes.[/QUOTE]
Yup, same for me. But I did have to give my passport to the hotel desk when I registered each time. Perhaps they looked at my visa.
[QUOTE=Sean EZ]It's probably good idea to have one, but what's the worst that can happen. Just play dumb you didn't know...[/QUOTE]
I remember a story a couple years back about some dumb foreigner driving from Moscow to Minsk without a visa (unsurprisingly, he was chasing some dyev). They arrested him, seized his car and deported him without returning it. Not sure that's the [b]worst[/b] that could happen in a totalitarian country, but it still ain't good.
Don't mess with it guys. Just get the visa and you can breathe easy.
[QUOTE=Sean EZ]you are not required to carry your passport in Belarus. Next time I'll just take a chance without the visa.[/QUOTE]Sean you're on thin ice here. As a foreigner you should carry your passport with you just in case. You can imagine what can happen if you're stopped by police or KDS agents and you don't have your passport. Remeber you need to register and to reigister you will need a visa. I remember what happened to me few years ago. I have a passport of country which doesn't need visa for Belarus. I checked in hotel and the girl at reception was working on my registration checking passport. There was no visa since I did not need it and the girls was surprised. Where is your visa? I tod her I don't have it and she immediatelly called hotel security, 3 guys were arround me. Then she called police which arrived in like less than 5 minutes. I simply explained I don't need visa they were suspicious, called foreign ministry which confirmed I don't need visa. Everything went well but can you immagine what would happen if I really did not have a visa. The answer is Emanuel Sezner, jew lawyer from USA. Last year he was arrested in Belarus and sentensed to 5 years in prison for document forgering. He had old belarus visa, didn't want to bother getting new and changed the date like the visa is still valid but he was caught. And also there was a Italian who served 3 years in prison also for visa problem. The case Pizdyets mentioned sounds like the easy one.
Belarus is not Russia or Ukraine, things are more tight and different there. In Russia you can get away with money since in Russia everythnig is possible for money while in Belarus not everything is possible for money. I had KDS coming to my place in Minsk checking my passport, no serious problems their excuse was always "there's a problem with your visa or registration".
In Belarus they are very fast to give you 5 or 10 year ban on entry and the problem this ban is valid fro Russia also.
Sean about Ufa it's no Moscow of course. But if compared to other places around it's not cheap. But also it will not squizee all your money from the pocket. There's oil money but people who have it usually spend it in Moscow. If you choose Ufa as your destination go for it. You can either not like it and never go back or like it and return there. I've been to Ufa several times but for few days each time. I will go again for sure and I wouldn't mind to spend some more time in Ufa.
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[QUOTE=Sean EZ]How expensive is Ufa?[/QUOTE]
It's certainly cheaper than Moscow, but it's no bargain. Mind you, Lukasek stayed for several weeks on the budget plan and had a ball so there you go. But very very few people speak English in Ufa regardless of the oil biz there.
In the provinces, if you limit your sponsorettes to strictly 18-19 year university and institute non-pros, or only the most expensive new/model type escorts service dyevochkas 18-19 years, AND are willing to go above and beyond when necessary to ensure you don't hear them say the word, "nye magoo", you can expect to add minimum $3000 per week to your local province capital city economy.
You will be quite popular too as a beloved benefactor. And after 3 weeks at that pace, that is, minimum 2 full GFE's per day, you will really need a long rest, if you are not a young energetic monger anymore.
As I've already mentioned, this budget does include all expenses except airfare, but includes rent for a nice apartment in the very heart of the center on the city's main street where EVERYONE walks right under my balcony, so any girl that agrees to come meet me, means I need walk no more than a half a block to get to her. Ok, so I'm the world's laziest monger, but I need to save my energy for other activities. ;)
It is not much more expensive than Samara and for free if compares it to Moscow, cheaper than Piter too, even if in Piter you have for example many places where to eat and in Ufa you will only end to eat to the couples of the two most expensive ones, cause the others look not so good.
However ok, just to make you understand better, even in top notch club as Jet Club, the prices seem to me even better than in Prague, so very affordable.
Obviously if you drink only Dom Perignon, you are gonna to expect to pay a lot, but even if I like good food, I drink beer or Coca Cola, as, it seems to a paradox for me, with all the wine I have at home, to go to pay 2x price to get half quality LOL.
On the disco of second floor of Jet Club, if I remember well a cocktail was about 5 euro, now with ruble weaker, even cheaper.
The biggest price is accomodation, as I saw in every city in the provincies, only very expensive hotel or shitty flat: I choose the first in Ufa and the second in Samara as you know from my reports...
P.S. Actually I do not know if to wish you to go there and to report and make me want to go there back or if to go end of summer directly to termas girls in Rio.....very hard to decide, cause it is the choice between top notch quality of pussy, russian women, with no feeling of holiday ( I got so boring in Ufa during the day....) or to have less beautiful women, but to live at 25 hours per day, including swimming in the ocean, hot weather and GFE with terma girls....we will see....
Lukasek is right her.
If you want high quality/glamour/exclusive you'll have to pay it no matter it's Moscow or Ufa.
Compared to Samara Ufa is more expencive. Not for the prices at night clubs. When I compared prices in the supermarkets, electricity costs, apartment rent (for local people), electricity costs, even car registration and insurance all this things cost more in Ufa. Most probably in Ufa payments are higher and also there's some "city tax" on everything.
In Jet club prices are normal for typical foreigner from the west but also they have very expencive drinks like "12 year old whiskey" with the price of 70 Euro a glass. Lukasek tricky dilemma I know what you mean. Last summer when I was in Samara I met there two girls from Rio and we had some great time if you know what I mean.
Kurenda privetik ;)
maybe another reason why Ufa is a bit, not so much for me, more expensive than Samara it is also cause we compare a normal city with a capital city. No much matter the country you consider, but capital is always more expensive and has better salary too.
I am so happy I do not like whiskey LOL
However what was so funny, that in Ufa, Samara and Piter 1 hour with girl, no matter if tochka from the first two cities or from privat apartment in the third city, everytime they costed me between 1500-2000 rubles, this is something everybody should think about very well before to decide where to go....it is like to say that Mac menu has almost the same price in every Mac Donald's but some of them are so far that to get there, indeed the same stuff it is gonna to costs you much more....
Izvini drug....escio raz.... you met 2 girls from Rio de Janeiro in Samara ?
It is like to meet a white bear in Africa, so uncommon and not usually :) What they did there ?
Photos of shopping center Evropa in Ufa and typical muslim....church ? ;)
Yes Lukasek it is like that. Thinking that p4p will have lower prices in russian province is not always right. P4p prices in provinces seems to be dictated from Moscow. Many girls who are serious about p4p and are living in provices simply go to Moscow because they can have more customers there of course.
If Ufa for example there will be far less clients than in Moscow so p4p keeps it's price. Only some very low and suspicious quality (drug users, drunks, etc) can have very low price in provinces like 500 roubles or so.
Yes girls from Rio in Samara. How? Samara they have SGAU which is Samara state aeronautical aerospace university which which is of high quality. There are small number of foreign students there. Mainly from 3rd world countries. I met this guy Rodrigo from Rio last summer, who was student there because he plans to later work brazilian space agency. He had a really hard time in Samara being there and simply could not adapt to the local way of life.
The thing is he had a two girls from Rio coming to Samara to visit him and staying for a month. One was his half sister and other a distant cousin. Brasilian guy was busy with his unversity exams and asked me if I can show the girls around because their russian was non existing but they had a solid knowledge of english. So I gladly showed them around and we had a great time in every possible way if you know what I mean. I'm not expert in brazilian girls but this two looked good in my opinion and have those amazing brazilian butts.
Lukasek photos are nice and no it's no muslim "church" on the photo. The correct word for muslim religious object is mosque. But building on the photo is medresa, muslim school and it was build with money from Saudi Arabia.
Kurenda yes, now I remember I read somewhere Samara has a good aeronautical aerospace university and close to shopping center, I saw even an old space ship or satellit, look to the photo here and you know what I mean :)
Thanks for share the story of 2 brazilian girls, you was really lucky, or very good :) cause the chance to score brazilian girls so close to Sibir were almost zero and it reminds me, one more time, that sometimes if you are in the right place at the right moment, you can get something unforgettable ;)
And it is always successfull and quite easy to open doors, once you stop to be a turist and you get in touch with ordinary people, students and so on and not only with girls that party at the night in the clubs.
This is what I regret, I was there not enough time to start to live as one of them with the positive thing that as foreigner in not turistic city in the provincies, you still means something "interesting" for the girls :)
The photo is shopping center "Fregat" this anttena form mobile phones and local radio stations.
Brazilian girls in Samara was a pure luck and I happened to be at the right place at the right time.
But last year I travelled by train from Moscow to Irkutsk and I shared coupe with brazilian guy from Sao Paolo, his name was Oswaldo. He told me he works fro brazilan company which imports aluminum from russian company Rusal (they are located in Siberia). This brazilian company is located in Vladivostok because they ship aluminum by sea and they have their offices there. The guy told me they have about 150 employees and about half of them are from Brazil including women also. So I guess there must be few of the hot brazilian chicks there. But I don't have more details.
In Samara I even hooked up with few imported french speaking girls. There is a french high school in Samara called "Alianze franceze" or something like that. They have teachers from french speaking countries (France, Belgium and Switzerland. I met 4 of them (two from France, and one each from Belgium and Switzerland) in Polet club where they were regulars getting drunk on those cheap drinks. And it was great in any way possible because it was a summer and they decided to stay in Samara. To practice russian but their knowledge was next to none. I didn't mind it since one of the french girls let me stay in her apartment for a whole month together with her of course.
Now somebody might ask what the hell they were in Sara of all places? Simple they applied with russian government to be teachers in those french schools. And they were hoping they will go to Moscow or St. Petersburg. But russian government gave them the list of 5 cities (total privinces) to choose one fo them or they will not work. So they choose Samara becuase as I was explained Samara was the biggest of them (and they thought becuase of the size Samara is great place) and also becuase Samara is no the river. But in Russia most cities are on the river.
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[QUOTE=Kurenda]The photo is shopping center "Fregat" this anttena form mobile phones and local radio stations....[/QUOTE]
Sorry for mistake Kurenda, I was told it is a piece from spaceship or satellit from the owner of the flat and so far it looks strange and so big, I believed him.
Here the only nice thing to see, the train station at the night, from the top you have great view of the city.
[QUOTE=Kurenda] There is a french high school in Samara called "Alianze franceze" or something like that.[/QUOTE]
Alliance Francaise is not only a french high school. It's an organization whose mission is to promote french language and culture outside France. Its primary concern is teaching french as a second language and organizing cultural events. There's about 1150 locations in 130 different countries. In a place like Brasil, which is keen on french culture, there's some 80 Alliances throughout the country (six only in Rio de Janeiro!) ...when I used to travel extensively there, Alliances Francaises were among my favorite hunting grounds ... there was always plenty of meninas eager to talk with a cosmopolitan french traveller. :)
Anyhow Russian elites have always been exceedingly "francophile", so I'm not surprised that there's a significant number of Alliances in Russia.
[url]http://www.afrus.ru/rus/af[/url]
Note to self : if travelling to provinces, not forgetting to visit the local Alliances to promote cordial international physical relations between people of France and Russia. :)
Can anyone help me with some information about how to find girls in Sochi?
Not literally, but going to KAZAN soon and not a single post about the city.
There's a lot of investment continuing, so there must be money, so there must be dyevs.
Any experiences or advice to pass on? Spasibo!
[QUOTE=TheKnight]
Not literally, but going to KAZAN soon and not a single post about the city.
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Check Kurenda's post #2986 in the Moscow thread.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]On my every trip to Russia I always go to Novosibirsk.[/QUOTE]
Kurenda how do you arrange your accommodation when you travel to provincial Russia ?
If you stay in apartments would you mind sharring your contacts for Novosibirsk or Rostov ?
Proposal it's simple for me. I don't stay in hotels and I don't rent apartments.
I know a lots of people in Russia (some for many years) in many cities, and I always stay with them. Meaning I'm sleeping in their apartments and eat at their tables.
So about apartment rentals try internet search, but for Novosibirsk I know about this which may help.
[url]http://novosibirskguide.com/find-a-flat2/[/url]
[QUOTE=Kurenda]for Novosibirsk I know about this which may help.
[url]http://novosibirskguide.com/find-a-flat2/[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the link. It seems it isn't easy to find apartment rentals in provincial Russia.
Last year I made an internet search for Krasnodar and couldn't find nothing, which was the reason why I chosed Tashkent, where arranging apartments is very easy.
In great majority of provincial places in Russia no matter how big they are it's tricky to find appartment for a short term stay.
The reason is simple. In each town there is usally some big hotel with certain comfort and quality and there are people behind this hotel. Owners/investitors who are usually local oligarchs, meyer, gubernator, etc.
And their opinion is that anybody coming to their city (especially foreigners) MUST stay in their hotel and leave the money. NOT in some other place. So if there is agency provinding apartment rental this people will do everything to kill the competition. This include arson of offices and apartments, threats, physicall attacks, anything you can imagine. Most usually they are very successfull in their attempts to remove accomodation competition (and any other of course).
It is possible that I will have to go to Anadyr in Chukotka, one of the points furtherest east (north east) in Russia, and a little town of 11,000 for a few days. Anybody know anything about mongering there? It seems likely to be pretty barren, given the small population and isolation. But at least Mamba has some listings for it, although some of those appear fake/phishing. The upside is that racially it seems diverse - i.e. has a lot of Russians, rather than just Inuit/Chukchi.
How about getting there? I recall a discussion here recently about the lack of western flights from the US to Russia - does everything really have to start in Moscow?
Hell, you can almost walk to Alaska from there!
Some flights I found looked to come direct from Moscow and others routed through Khabarovsk - anyone know that city?
At least with a population of 500,000 it must have some mongering available...
It would seem silly to travel the entire breadth of Russia and monger only around the Moscow airport!!!
[QUOTE=Kurenda]In great majority of provincial places in Russia no matter how big they are it's tricky to find appartment for a short term stay.
The reason is simple. In each town there is usally some big hotel with certain comfort and quality and there are people behind this hotel. Owners/investitors who are usually local oligarchs, meyer, gubernator, etc.
And their opinion is that anybody coming to their city (especially foreigners) MUST stay in their hotel and leave the money. NOT in some other place. So if there is agency provinding apartment rental this people will do everything to kill the competition. This include arson of offices and apartments, threats, physicall attacks, anything you can imagine. Most usually they are very successfull in their attempts to remove accomodation competition (and any other of course).[/QUOTE]My experience is that this completely untrue. Sure, you will find very few places with English-language advertisements or web pages, but in every town you can find apartments (even in small towns I've been in with 100,000 or fewer people). Usually there will be agency numbers to call for apartments posted at the train station. In bigger towns there will be babushki at the train station too asking for renters. If all else fails go to a kiosk and ask for the paper "iz ruk v ruki" which has local versions for almost all towns and in the classifieds you will find apartments for rent.
Latexian you are right about what you said.
But only if you have russian knowledge.
For a foreigner not speaking russian it will not be easy to get apartment in provincial Russia uless having some local support.
GT I've been to Anadyr three times. Every time with military plane.
The only way to go there is by plane from Moscow to Petropavlovsk Kamchatski.
And from there you can get local small plane, boat or by road.
OK no real road but any direction where off road truck can go.
Or from some city on the east russian coast like Khabarovsk or Vladivostok using local airline.
Anadyr is basically military town bulid to serve soviet airforce base named Ugolny. This base was closed some 10 years ago and all military personel and their families are mostly gone. 11 000 population? In my opinion much less maybe 2000-3000 less.
The alternative way to go there is by cargo ship from Alaska. They come and go. Main cargo being vodka. I was at Anadyr airport back in 1997 when Il-76 cargo plane crashed there and everybody run to save the precious cargo - 40 000 bottles of vodka.
Mongering in Andayr? That would be interesting since great majority of population there seem to be male. They for sure have some local skanks.
Each time I was in Anadyr it was during winter so it was cold and dark.
I went to few drinking holes with locals and they showed me few "pros" but they all were of the type not even for free and touch her only with long pole.
But stranger things happen in life so it can be possible to sponsor a girl there. But keep in mind the place is so small and isolated that everybody will know some foreigner arrived. This can be both good and bad. Two times in Andyr they tried to rob me but I offered them my watch and they run away.
Khabarovsk is large city on Amur river but it seems they have tight control because of the large military industrial complex there and also because of the space center being build there. Not many people know about this city even Havier Solana on his recent meeting with Medved didn't know where he was so president Medvedev gave him map of Russian for next time. Sure there can be some mongering availalbe. But when I was in Khabarovsk I was amazed with huge numbers of chinese sw so many of them that police was loading them in truck and sending them over the border. Their price was very low since most of them wanted money to spend in local casinos.
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[QUOTE=Kurenda]
Khabarovsk is large city on Amur river but it seems they have tight control because of the large military industrial complex there and also because of the space center being build there. Not many people know about this city even Havier Solana on his recent meeting with Medved didn't know where he was so president Medvedev gave him map of Russian for next time. Sure there can be some mongering availalbe. But when I was in Khabarovsk I was amazed with huge numbers of chinese sw so many of them that police was loading them in truck and sending them over the border. Their price was very low since most of them wanted money to spend in local casinos.[/QUOTE]
I've never been to Khabarovsk, but roughly 90% of the Russian working girls I met in Asia were from there. Not only were they too embarrassed to ply their trade in their home town, but they also said they could make far more money outside Russia. I could believe this for Japan and Korea, as both have sky-high p4p prices, but didn't expect it for China, where p4p is roughly half the price it is here in Moscow.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]GT I've been to Anadyr three times. Every time with military plane.
Mongering in Andayr? That would be interesting since great majority of population there seem to be male. They for sure have some local skanks.[/QUOTE]THANKS! I really did not expect to find anyone with such detailed knowledge of such an obscure place! Having been in similar towns in Canada, I really don't expect much except for drinking in Anadyr, although I have already made contact with one girl. I have also discovered that one girl (stunningly beautiful) I have been talking to for a long time is from Khabarovsk and will be returning there this summer! So it might not be as bleak and barren as I feared.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]Latexian you are right about what you said.
But only if you have russian knowledge.
For a foreigner not speaking russian it will not be easy to get apartment in provincial Russia uless having some local support.[/QUOTE]Kurenda you have some amazing stories.
I think you are right and this is one of the many reasons why I don't think anyone should be traveling in provincial Russia without some conversational Russian. You can survive with basic Russian but you'll have so many problems you'd have more fun in Piter or Moscow.
But yes, if you do know Russian there are transportation options, one or more decent clubs, and private apartments in every town that's bigger than about 30,000 people. And the upside is that there is still some "white god factor" in the provinces that doesn't exist any more in Moscow and Petersburg (or at least not much).
GT if you're going to Andayr the only good time would be in summer. Don't go there later than September and earlier than April. Becuase of the weather and such. Also about making contact with the girl from there pay double attention. You never know what's behind that.
Pizdyets, russian working girl in Khabarovsk is rare sight. Can't say there aren't any but openly no. Some 15 years ago there was this guy in Khabarovsk Malinovsky or something nick named "Amur Ripper". Why?
Because he was a serial killer with speciality to kill prostitutes. It was proved he killed 12 of them but he claimed much more than that and his task was to clear his home town from immorality. Police always claimed he did not worked alone and the guy was mentioning his "disciples". Guess this is why there are no sw there. I think there was misunderstanding. I didn't said russian girls from Khabarovsk are going to China to work as prostitutes but vice versa. Chines girls are coming to Khabarovsk in large numbers and for low price. This also can be a reason why russian prostitutes are rare in Khabarovsk. Those girls from China come mainly from town Pink Yang. I was told those of better quality go to Vladivostok and those of low quality come Khabarovsk. And of course they are of low quality but also price is low. When I was in Khabarovsk in 2007 the price was 20-30$ for a whole night or 50$ for two girls for a night. These chinese girls had only in mind to get money for gambling in casinos in Khabarovsk.
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[QUOTE=Kurenda]
Chinese girls had only in mind to get money for gambling in casinos in Khabarovsk.
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Should I write casino gambling as MY reason to apply for tourist visa for Khabarovsk? :)
Latexian2 this is the right situation.
Anyone who wants to go to provincial Russia just like that for no obvious reason (mongering aside) should first reconsider what are they doing.
Better be safe that sorry.
Babushkas at the train stations looking for renters are common site in Russia no matter how big is the town. But also it is typical bate from robbers. Somebody agree to get apartment from babushka and she takes you to some place where yuo got jumped by gang of several people who usually beat you up, take your money and possessions and dumps you at the town outskirts.
I never heard anything like that happened to foreigner (wich doesn't mean it never happened) but for Russians this is like morning coffee. It happened all the time murders included. Famous is babuska Nastya from Perm who in 2006 personally killed 5 of her "tenants" with the axe. She picked them at the train station, travelers who were looking for accomodation. Crazy babushka told the court she killed them because she needed moeny to pay the hitman which was supposed to kill her daughter in law and 13 year old granddaughter.
All in order to get apartment left after her son died.
Bez for the gambling in russian East better is Blagoveschensk than Khabarovsk
and also much of chinese sw.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]
Famous is babuska Nastya from Perm who in 2006 personally killed 5 of her "tenants" with the axe.
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In 2006 I got stuck for 3 hours in the Perm airport one night from 2AM to 5AM, and they have a 7 foot tall stuffed brown bear on display with very large teeth and claws in the waiting room-office-lounge area, that was probably this Nastya after the courts executed her. No hatchet though..
Quite scary and interesting.
Do not worry Bez you had luck.
Murdering babushka was operating at Perm train station and not Perm airport.
And she couldn't be that bear either. She wasn't executed, but in typical russian manner sent to mental institution for a life time "observations".
Hy guy,
My first post here. Does somebody know about the pay sex scene in Krasnoyarsk?
It would be perfect if somebody have some tip for me.
So long.
Check this out:
[url]http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/stickers?id_part=226&id_country=50&id_city=1741[/url]
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/?SiteCitySelector=%D0%9A%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%8F%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA&SiteCitySelected=Y&SearchByCity.x=10&SearchByCity.y=7[/url]
Dont take everything for granted, there are usually fake profiles.
In the city, taxi drivers can help if you speak russian.
With the shrinking British pound, and prices going up in EE countries, I am always on the look out for new cheap destinations in Eastern and Central Europe.
The cheapest destination in terms of air fares to get to from London, would be the Russian enclave bordering Poland and Lithuania, so I was just wondering has any one here got any recent or not too distant experience with the pp scene in Kaliningrad? A budget airline RyanAir flies from London to Gdansk in Poland, and from there it is easy to get to Kaliningrad just over the border, and this would be the cheapest way to have a Russian experience, asa air fares to Moskow from London are quite expensive, and from what I read Moskow is one of the most expensive cities in the world.
Any thoughts about this destination?
[QUOTE=Jojosun]With the shrinking British pound, and prices going up in EE countries, I am always on the look out for new cheap destinations in Eastern and Central Europe.
The cheapest destination in terms of air fares to get to from London, would be the Russian enclave bordering Poland and Lithuania, so I was just wondering has any one here got any recent or not too distant experience with the pp scene in Kaliningrad? A budget airline RyanAir flies from London to Gdansk in Poland, and from there it is easy to get to Kaliningrad just over the border, and this would be the cheapest way to have a Russian experience, asa air fares to Moskow from London are quite expensive, and from what I read Moskow is one of the most expensive cities in the world.
Any thoughts about this destination?[/QUOTE]
Been there and was unimpressed. Kaliningrad also has a reputation within Russia for being expensive. Nothing on the order of Moscow, of course, but far above your average provincial city. IIRC, it's ranked the 4th most expensive city in Russia (after Moscow, Piter and Sakhalin). IMHO, you'd be better off hitting Kiev. Ukrainian economy is in a shambles and you don't need a visa either. Haven't researched flights from London, but I'm guessing it won't be too much more than flying to Poland. Okay, it's not cheap either, but you can do it on a budget if you stay in an apartment.
That said, Skank was telling me that he's had fun in Kaliningrad, so maybe it was just me...
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Been there and was unimpressed. Kaliningrad also has a reputation within Russia for being expensive. Nothing on the order of Moscow, of course, but far above your average provincial city. IIRC, it's ranked the 4th most expensive city in Russia (after Moscow, Piter and Sakhalin). IMHO, you'd be better off hitting Kiev. Ukrainian economy is in a shambles and you don't need a visa either. Haven't researched flights from London, but I'm guessing it won't be too much more than flying to Poland. Okay, it's not cheap either, but you can do it on a budget if you stay in an apartment.
That said, Skank was telling me that he's had fun in Kaliningrad, so maybe it was just me...[/QUOTE]Thanks
British passport holders get Russian visas issued on arrival at KALININGrad, if it is less than 4 days duration., so that's one big hurdle out of the way.
I am hitting kiev in sept already booked on wizzair £105 return, and this the lowest that I found.
With ryanair you could get a low fare return from london to gdansk £20, and it is 5 hours on regular bus to kaliningrad cost one way 32lpn zloty.
Checked some hotels in kaliningrad prices not bad either, so even with a more expensive fare from london, it would still work out quite cheap about £75 return
Would really appreciate a more detailed input re girls clubs prices taxis and so on, to complete the picture.
Can we hear from SKANK re this spot.
Many thanks in anticipation
[QUOTE=Jojosun]
British passport holders get Russian visas issued on arrival at KALININGrad, if it is less than 4 days duration.
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Jojo, are you absolutely sure about this?
And if so, how much does that cost ???
[QUOTE=Gergiev]Jojo, are you absolutely sure about this?
And if so, how much does that cost ???[/QUOTE]I have it in black and white by a company here in the uk called (REGENT HOLIDAYS. Co. Uk ] and they do packages from uk to kaliningrad for 4 days. Hotel plus flight from £ 350 british pounds
I will phone them today to double check and report back on cost of visa.
Kaliningrad is quite expencive (for a foreigner) at the top of russian scale.
More than Sakhalin - checked both places. Locals told me that's not like in Moscow but close to StP.
Kaliningrad is economic free zone, there are many foreign companies there.
Like car manufacture of BMW and Hummer.
Yes there is possibillity to get russian visa on arrival in Kaliningrad.
This is valid for some countires (sorry I don't know the full list) and the thing was like this (in July 2008 when I was there, don't know if something is changed now - it might):
- vissa is issued on airport only (not on ground border - it might be changed now)
- maximal duration of stay in Kaliningrad was 72 hours (3 days)
- you can't go to "main" Russia with this visa.
I think "Kaliningrad visa" looks different than standard russian visa. In the green colour or somethnig but forgot.
I met two Germans who got their visas this way and they payed their visas 120$ at the airport.
So for british passports holders I don't know what's the situation having in mind between UK and Russia there's always a problem.
To enter into this part of Russia from Poland there are just two border crossings - Braniewo and Gorowo Haweckie. Ground crossing is mostly problematic. Keep in mind that Kaliningrad is part of Russia going under "special administrative area". Due to beeing border area and also because of plentu military instalations there. Kaliningrad is the most heavily militarized area in Europe.
In Kaliningrad there are lots of polish pros, semipros, sw, etc. Keep in mind they cost more than in Poland.
[QUOTE=Jojosun]I have it in black and white by a company here in the uk called (REGENT HOLIDAYS. Co. Uk ] and they do packages from uk to kaliningrad for 4 days. Hotel plus flight from £ 350 british pounds
I will phone them today to double check and report back on cost of visa.[/QUOTE]here is the update on kaliningrad you give details of your passport and personal details, make the booking hotel etc with the tour co here in the uk, and the visa will be issued on arrival at kaliningrad airport, max 72 hours. Cost £65 to £70
They no longer have dierect flights from the uk to kaliningrad on kd avia, this was stopped this year.
As for hookers being more expensive than poland, this would defeat the object of going to kaliningrad ie cheaper pussy.
[QUOTE=Jojosun]Would really appreciate a more detailed input re girls clubs prices taxis and so on, to complete the picture.
Can we hear from SKANK re this spot.
Many thanks in anticipation[/QUOTE]Sorry, haven't been there in over a year and was only doing the girlfriend thing last time. No current insight on pro sex, but obviously there are salons etc., for example this one: ([url]http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/stickers?id_part=242&id_country=50&id_city=1417[/url]) ... 1500 rub/hour. That's cheap, certainly cheaper than Kiev.
And there will be girls around the bar in the disco that are POTENTIAL working girls. You'll have to play it by ear.
Taxis are cheap and unlike the rest of Russia with its gypsy cabs, there are hundreds if not thousands of cabs in Kaliningrad that'll give you a good price.
Go to the beach, which is about 45 min by car. There is also a train, but I always took a taxi, I think about $20-30.
Several nightclubs in Kaliningrad, for example Planeta. I'm pretty sure its still running.
Hotels were fairly cheap IIRC, but try to aim for the center.
Kaliningrad is OK, but Kiev is more fun IMO... although August is usually not a good month for Kiev. The adventurous type might prefer Kgrad.
Girls are fairly used to tourists however, but in a positive sense. Kaliningrad considers itself European and people are generally pretty eager to meet Westerners, at least in my experience. More so than in other Russian cities.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]...maximal duration of stay in Kaliningrad was 72 hours (3 days)...[/QUOTE]
Really ? So you cannot stay there one week ?
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Really ? So you cannot stay there one week ?[/QUOTE]
Luka, I think they are referring to the visa issued at the airport on arrival.
An experienced buccaneer like yourself with, say, a normal 30 day tourist visa in your passport could stay for the duration or perhaps spend a week there and then fly on to somewhere else in the Federation that takes your fancy.
But not Samara, probably...
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Sorry, haven't been there in over a year and was only doing the girlfriend thing last time. No current insight on pro sex, but obviously there are salons etc., for example this one: ([url]http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/stickers?id_part=242&id_country=50&id_city=1417[/url]) ... 1500 rub/hour. That's cheap, certainly cheaper than Kiev.
And there will be girls around the bar in the disco that are POTENTIAL working girls. You'll have to play it by ear.
Taxis are cheap and unlike the rest of Russia with its gypsy cabs, there are hundreds if not thousands of cabs in Kaliningrad that'll give you a good price.
Go to the beach, which is about 45 min by car. There is also a train, but I always took a taxi, I think about $20-30.
Several nightclubs in Kaliningrad, for example Planeta. I'm pretty sure its still running.
Hotels were fairly cheap IIRC, but try to aim for the center.
Kaliningrad is OK, but Kiev is more fun IMO... although August is usually not a good month for Kiev. The adventurous type might prefer Kgrad.
Girls are fairly used to tourists however, but in a positive sense. Kaliningrad considers itself European and people are generally pretty eager to meet Westerners, at least in my experience. More so than in other Russian cities.[/QUOTE]Many thanks ,you put me in the picture .
People pay attention.
By russian law it is possible to receive a russian visa "arrival".
It can be issued to any airport that has international arrivals, without many formalities. Only need to fill in a single paper.
The visa is for duration of 3 days maximal and cost 120$.
There's a catch to receive a transit visa on arrival also in maximal duration of 10 days. But you must explain to the guys that you will take atrain from Moscow to China. Most probably you will need to show them the ticket.
The problem is the russian cutoms is not very ready to issue this visa on arrival if you land in Moscow or StP for exampla.
Today the practice to give this visa is only in "free economic zone" namely Kaliningrad and Yuzhno-Sahalinsk.
This visa is different than standard Russian visa.
This is basically what Jojosun was offered by that agency.
Only international flights to Kaliningrad are from Germany, Danemark and some baltic stat (forgot which one).
Kaliningrad taxi drivers are clever one. They quote you a good price and when they start driving you around the bil comes out high. Their expanation is simple "we can't go that direction, there's a military installation there so we must go around". Often they will take you close to military baracks where you can see soldiers and military equipment just over the fence and tell you "oops can't go that way we must go around". But actually there's no problem to go that way.
I agree with DS there are better places than Kaliningrad. Going to Kaliningrad you will not gain much, not going there you won't loose much.
In Kaliningrad foreigners are much better accepted. Never heard about attack on foriegner in Kaliningrad, while Voronezh is at the top list where attack on foreigners occur on daily basics. The reason is population in Kaliningrad is definitelly not a "pure slavic Russians". In Kaliningrad there are many people who are called "Russians" but some 40-50 years ago they actually were Poles, Germans, Lithuanins, etc. They got through process of russianization but still have their original mentality.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]
Kaliningrad is OK, but Kiev is more fun
The adventurous type might prefer Kgrad.
Girls are fairly used to tourists however, but in a positive sense.
Kaliningrad considers itself European and people are generally pretty eager to meet Westerners, at least in my experience.
More so than in other Russian cities.
[/QUOTE]
In the war, there was so much bombing and shelling, that not even one building was left standing intact, just a part of one, the rest was completely flattened. There's nothing old there, though there's also nothing modern about Soviet construction either, its drab and sad.
This could make you depressed if you're so inclined, but from a monger's POV, its a plus, if you are bringing some excitement into an otherwise boring life of a dyevushka.
European maybe, but after the war, the Reds shipped out all 50,000 Germans to gulags, leaving the city 100% communist proletariat.
Current population; 430,000. Compares in size to Golden Ring cities like Ivanovo and Tula.
As Skank says, a challenging province for a monger adventure.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]In the war, there was so much bombing and shelling, that not even one building was left standing intact, just a part of one, the rest was completely flattened. There's nothing old there, though there's also nothing modern about Soviet construction either, its drab and sad.[/QUOTE]
Really? I saw a lot of dilapidated German-looking "houses" among the CommieBlocks. I can't believe those were built by Russians - it's not in their DNA to build such things!
The most striking building in Kaliningrad to me was the House of Soviets, which stood unfinished for over 40 years in the center of town. I was actually a bit sad to see that they had finished it by my last visit. Somehow, a hulking, deserted monstronsity in the location of a former (beautiful) German castle was more apropos. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Königsberg_Castle[/url]
I meant in the center district.
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]The most striking building in Kaliningrad to me was the House of Soviets, which stood unfinished for over 40 years in the center of town. I was actually a bit sad to see that they had finished it by my last visit. Somehow, a hulking, deserted monstronsity in the location of a former (beautiful) German castle was more apropos. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Königsberg_Castle[/url][/QUOTE]Really? Last I saw it was stole a gigantic block of iron and concrete.
The German command bunker is pretty interesting. It's small and claustrophobic, but interesting and bowed in by residential buildings now, you could almost walk over it and miss it. It's a museum now.
I still think the coast is the best thing there though, although mostly just scenery as opposed to any real swinging action as far as I could tell.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Really? Last I saw it was stole a gigantic block of iron and concrete.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, check out the wikipedia link I posted last time. I kinda preferred the old version. More Stalker-esque.
Hi Utchitel,
Are you still teaching French in Briansk or FSU? Then we can be hunting partners.
I am coming to Russia next week for 4 weeks. I am an Indian tourist in mid forties, 5' 9", 68 kg, some says good looking, not fat, with enough courage to approach a girl.
If you are in FSU, I will join your French classes, then will throw a party for girls (selected by you and I will invite you also). Then we can socialize and go ahead.
I can be your disguised, discreet messenger and also will try to know any girls love feeling towards you.
Together we can achieve much more then expected.
So if you want tell me on this forum.
For private messaging, I will pay your subscription to this site.
Please reply quickly.
The city has definetively not the most exiting sex scene i Russia.
Here is my experience: I saw 5 girls sitting in the lobby in the SAS-hotel (Lazurnaya). 3 of them were rather beautiful. I asked the most beautiful about the price and she aswered 15 000 rubles! Forget it. Next try at the beach balustrade. Asked a couple of russian men for an advice. They said: go to Zhentsjur (pearl in russian). So I went, but no girls were there. But I was told that I could bring any girl into the hotel for 1500 rubles. This was the small hotel, not the big one wich has the same name (pearl), but in a longer version. Maybe I was mistaken. Which I didn't understand at that moment. So I asked the first and best taxi driver I met (som meters uphill on the other side of the road). He turned out to be a sympathetic fellow and took me to the train station. We negotiated with a mamasan and ended up on 1500 rubles for a girl. I was told stories about the most beautiful girls in town etc. Which is normally crap and which was crap. First I was presented for an ok but not enough classy girl. I denied. Off we went to an apartment with an ugly old ukrainian girl. Mamasan tried to push into her arms (not physically fortunately). I wasn't interested and they let me in peace and told me another girl would arrive. I waited for about 15 minutes and was about to leave when an asiatic looking girls came walking in. She was a little bit too tall for my preferences, but she had an nice smile and attitude so I agreed. We went into the room and I discovered that she spoke fluently english - much better than my russian. She was a teacher in english in Usbekistan. An what a nice and interesting girl! She gave me full service and wanted me to stay for an hour - I guess in order to practice her english. I gave her 500 rubles extra og said goodbye with a big smile on my lips.
Conclusion: The small pearl hotel will acept you with a girl if you find one. In some hotels you can find girls, but they are probably extremely expensive (but also beautiful). Things are happening around the train station, but you probably have to talk to a taxi driver. You never now what you can get, but don't give in until you are satisfied, and maybe you will have the right one. It's always ok to say NO.
Hello Dear Friends,
I am now in Volgograd. If any one is here, I invite you for drinks. Then we can hunt together.
Any info about rented apartments is welcome, preferably near Uni. area
If scene is favorable, I will stay here for 2 weeks. Otherwise depart for Lugansk.
I was in Kazan last week on some business. Didn't have a lot of time to search around but I believe there are a number of gentlemen's clubs around. One, Arenda (sp? ) is right on Pushkin Street near the beginning of Bauman. The entrance is at street level and you go down.- however, beware of Sunday evening. That's when I happened to go and discovered, speaking with the hostess with my bad Russian and her broken English, that it is MALE dancers on Sundays.- so be forewarned! There is also a 1001 nights club that I saw from the outside but didn't get a chance to partake of.- it's on the main street leading from Pushkin going towards the Millenium Park. If anyone else has any experience in this city, please post.
Thanks,
LD
I have been to Kazan a nice number of times due to long term projects there.... And although not my favorite city, I can say that it is certainly full of possibilities.... In your post, you probably mean "Arena" (not "arenda")... Great place, but careful, there are 2 different places inside the same "complex". The one on the left (if you look from outside) it's the disco... a big one with several bars/floors/atmospheres (dance/r'n'b/karaoke... etc....), the one on the right (in the same side of the building and same entrance from the street than Casino) is a smaller disco, but with usually BETTER material for those older than 30 (like myself). I don't mean girls... (you can easyly find 20-21 y.o. girls there) but from the general atmosphere and music....
Some pro's or semi-pro's but it is hard to tell the difference at first sight if you are not very experienced... (don't forget that most of girls in motherland, specially young girls, like the slutty style more than anything else...).
I am not much into the pro scene, specially if you have some time (not 2-3 days) in one city, and you can invest some time and money to find a freebie. This is a place where I have scored several times, and it is worth a visit.
Sahara is another not-so-bad place, but for all of you not very seasoned in Russia, the concept restaurant-bar-disco is all mixed-up in Russia.... There are few discos which are not also restaurants (sometimes even GOOD restaurants) and vice-versa....
At "Sahara" I still remember some kind of Beer promotion (one specific brand), that when you ordered a beer of that kind, some topless girl got the beer delivered.... that's advertising! (Please, I am talking of a very normal restaurant in the middle of a very popular mall.... not exactly a titty bar...
Anyway, I haven't come back to Kazan in a few months, so some of the address and places are starting to fade in my memory, but if you have any specific question, I can always try to answer....
Good luck! And good hunting!
I'm sorry to be a noob but I've never had luck creating my own threads on these forums so I will just add these questions as a "report". There is a button that says that I can make a new thread but it never works.
What is the Russian word for "salon"? Is there a slang word for them?
Kurenda mentioned a type of apartment called a "working apartment" and seemed to indicate that they are less safe. What is the word the locals use to refer to those?
[QUOTE=Glazami]I'm sorry to be a noob but I've never had luck creating my own threads on these forums so I will just add these questions as a "report". There is a button that says that I can make a new thread but it never works.[/QUOTE]It's all a ruse.
Jackson doesn't allow us to make new threads. That privilege is reserved for the BA mongers. Probably best to put this in the Russian Words and Phrases thread.
The Russian word for salon is, well... "salon". Russians are more likely to use the word "bordello". Another word is "publichni dom" (public house), which is nothing like a public house in England. This is a house where working girls ply their trade.
I don't know which word Kurenda was referring to.
flew in last night after a long day at work, settled at the moscow hotel. nice rooms, good service, tiny beds. contemplated going out and checking out the freebie scene, but figured i’d rather go pro and get a few extra hours of sleep. found this site nalevo.org which asks you to register to see pictures of girls. called them up. “do i need to register to see photos?” “oh no, don’t bother, they’re just girls from magazines, you know how it is.” “i see. so how do i choose?” “we’ll bring 2-3 girls over to you, pick whoever you like” “well all right. i’m at the moscow hotel…” “oh, there? they won’t let you bring a girl in. they’ve got their own prostitutes they want you to get. but our girls are cheaper and prettier. we can take you to a room, no problem. it’s only 2500 r for 2 hours for the girl, and 1000 for the room.” so i said “fine”.
30 minutes later there was a car parked by the hotel with 3 girls in it. 1 was an absolute dog, the second one wasn’t too bad, and the third one was actually hot. tall slender brunette, probably early 20s, nice hair and make-up, well kept, wouldn’t look out of place at nightflight. easy choice. the driver drove us down to some sauna, and as i was asking if i could pay for 1 hour, the girl said “1 hour? with a girl like me? take 2 hours, i’ll make it worth your while” and winked at me. so of course i paid for 2.
in the room, everything changed. she just sat down in the corner and started smoking, staring at the ceiling. “is everything all right?” “yeah yeah, i’ll just finish this cigarette and be fine”. this went on for 15 minutes. finally she went to the shower, where she spent another 15 minutes yapping on the phone with the water running.
then she comes out in her underwear and says “you got any condoms?” “no” “cause i only got this one”. ffffuuuuuu…. she goes to her purse, and as i’m looking over her shoulder, there’s a whole box of condoms in there. “oh right, i forgot i had these… you like blowjobs?” as i was coming up with a rep001hing reply, she says “cause these condoms hurt my mouth. i can’t give you a blowjob with these. and i don’t do blowjobs without a condom.” great.
took another 10 uncomfortable minutes to finally get her to bed, she rolled the condom on, and started on the most pathetic handjob known to man, looking at me with the look of a vet putting down an especially ugly dog. she “got tired” after 30 seconds, rolled over and lay there like a log, staring at the ceiling. can’t touch her here. can’t touch her there. sigh. no don’t do that. “then what are we going to do for 2 hours?” “i don’t know, can’t you just be done quickly and we’ll get out of here? i got things to do.”
that’s when i finally had enough. i called up the dispatcher and complained. she was really apologetic, said they’ll send three more girls for me to look at and make it up for me. the driver was there in 10 minutes. with no girls. refunded me 1000 for the remaining hour and started leaving. “where are the other girls?” “no other girls. you’re done”. “are you going to drive me back to the hotel?” “no. i’m not a taxi.” i got in the car anyway and told him to drive me back. as i was in the car, i kept trying to call the dispatcher, but she kept hanging up on me. i asked the driver to call her, and she basically told me to get out of the car and go fuck myself.
so there’s a warning gents. stay away from nalevo.org, 39-15-05.
after i got back, i asked the hotel security guard if they had girls. he said sure, we’ll get you whatever you want within 30 minutes. i asked for a bar rafaeli type but prettier. “ok. and if we can’t find that?” “then somebody not too old and not too chubby. hopefully young and pretty”. and what do you know, i had a knock on my door 15 minutes later, and there was a young pretty girl there. not exceptionally hot but a nice face and a nice body, and with a very nice personality. had a nice chat, had a couple of rounds sex, and it would have been pretty good if not for the fact that she was missing both of her upper left premolars.
fucking kaliningrad, man. fucking kaliningrad.
One O Nine,
Good to have you back! And thanks for the warning about nalevo.org. Sorry about your bad night, but it made for an excellent story. :)
Myself, I would have gone for the hotel girl first. But then, if you had done that, the girl from nalevo would have turned out to be a wildcat. Это просто логично (it's only logical).
One O Nine,
I am sorry for your sad adventure, are you sure she was russian and not from west europe ? It seems all the whole world is gonna to change, even the russian girls are not as some years before....
Btw I was thinking to go back to one FSU country, when 2 days ago, I went to German to give a try to FKK.... well, so good, so cheap, so close, so...not Russia for the moment.....
Yes, FKK does not give the great feeling Sibiria gives, even I spoke in russian with one from Minsk today and from Moscow yesterday, but with just 2-3 days of holiday is a truly heaven....hardly suggested for all guys here that still did not try FKK....
Btw she is only waiting to have enough money to buy 2 golden premolars ;)
Thanks for the report...
[QUOTE=One O Nine]
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Asking if I could pay for 1 hour, the girl said “Take 2 hours, I’ll make it worth your while” and winked at me. So of course I paid for 2.
In the room, everything changed.
She sat smoking for 15 minutes, went to the shower another 15 minutes.
Then she comes out and says I can’t give you a blowjob with these and I don’t do blowjobs without.
Another 10 uncomfortable minutes to bed, looking at me with the look of a vet putting down an especially ugly dog.
Staring at the ceiling.
Can’t touch her here or there.
Sigh.
No don’t.
I got things to do.
The dispatcher was apologetic, said they’ll send three more girls.
The driver was there with no girls.
I kept trying to call the dispatcher, but she kept hanging up on me, she told me to go fuck myself.
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Your story gave me 50 deja vu's!
This is EXACTLY how they are, EVERYWHERE!
Its the lying gene that causes this, they are incapable of even the thinnest shred of honesty.
Right down to every single detail, dyev after dyev, they are taught and trained this way, to make sure you despise them at the highest level possible.
Fortunately, occasionally, it is possible to catch some before they've completed their training and perfected this technique, but that's the real challenge, though for many others, they need no training at all, as they're born this way naturally.
Once in a while, it is possible to find an exception. If you're lucky.
Its a big fucking if.
Helps a bit if you insist 18 or 19 years ONLY.
That results in either a go fuck yourself, or they just send the old hags that swear they're 19 when they're actually 42!
Ah, life's full of fun in the oblasts!
Just wanted to follow up on my Disaster at Kaliningrad post and let you guys know that the freebie scene here more than makes up for it. I'm having an even easier time than in the Ukraine, which I had thought was freebie capital of the world. Gorgeous girls that can hold a conversation, easy going and not at all spoiled, and they actually throw themselves at you. Holy crap.
If you speak Russian and are into the freebie scene, Kaliningrad is just awesome. And it's the end of October, November even. I hear it's even better in the summer, when the vacation crowds are here.
[QUOTE=One O Nine]I'm having an even easier time than in the Ukraine, which I had thought was freebie capital of the world. Gorgeous girls that can hold a conversation, easy going and not at all spoiled, and they actually throw themselves at you. Holy crap. [/QUOTE]
Seems great. Thanks for the info One O Nine. I have 3 weeks vacations in December and seriously ponder about leaving the uzbek dyevs for awhile to linger in a russian provincial city. May I chime in with a few questions ?
Is there in Kaliningrad some upper-scale mall with trendy cafes where women congregate on afternoons and evenings ?
Also you didn't elaborate about the strip bars scene. I personally love strip bars when they are humanely priced ...any place you recommend ?
And last, any update about your favorite spots to chase non-pros (weekdays and weekends), and is there among them some kind of "after-hours", i.e. a place more busy than the others late at night, especially on weekdays ?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Is there in Kaliningrad some upper-scale mall with trendy cafes where women congregate on afternoons and evenings ? [/QUOTE]
The town is not really developed in the civilized sense. There is one mall I've been to, and it was mostly filled with the bored trophy wives of local businessmen, i.e. pretty lousy game.
Young girls literally congregate around grocery stores in the evening. The town is boring as hell, and tons of girls don't have money to go out.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Also you didn't elaborate about the strip bars scene. I personally love strip bars when they are humanely priced ...any place you recommend ?[/QUOTE]
Dunno. Somebody was telling me about Kaliningrad's first strip club that completely shocked the entire region when it first opened. Things like that just aren't done in that region. Somebody I work with is good friends with the DJ who used to work there. Apparently the place got closed down for some mafia or government reasons or what not. No idea if there are any more. Could be that there are none at all.
[QUOTE=Prosal]And last, any update about your favorite spots to chase non-pros (weekdays and weekends), and is there among them some kind of "after-hours", i.e. a place more busy than the others late at night, especially on weekdays ?[/QUOTE]
I just chatted up girls on the street, and I actually got approached by girls myself. Mostly around the Drama Theater - Prospect Mira area. The first time it happened, I half-expected the girl to turn out to be a pro, but she was too good looking to pass up either way. But no, she turned out to be completely free, financially independent with a well-paying job.
Second time I got picked up by an equally great looking chick (both of them at least 8s) in the elektrichka going to Zelenogradsk. The elektrichka is only 40 rubles one way, and for some reason it was completely filled with 70+ Russian grandmas talking about gardening and house cats. Then this brunette walks in, 5'11", great legs, great smile, sits across from me, and says "finally, a good looking guy in the old people's train." Two hours later we were freezing our asses off trying to have sex in a remote part of the beach.
This is seriously Dear Penthouse kind of stuff. My mind is completely blown.
[QUOTE=One O Nine]This is seriously Dear Penthouse kind of stuff. My mind is completely blown.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the infos. Kaliningrad seems damn good for non-pro chasing. Any particular reason why it seems better than others provincial russian cities ?
BTW if my memory serves, Felix Nordic also reported about the great time he had there.
I've a week trip in December in Nizhny Tagil. Any experience there? Any suggestion how to find a night sex?
Thanks.
Be careful there. It's a notorious place, surrounded by several high-security prisons. The jailbirds, once released, often settle down in town as they have nowhere else to go.
For a taste of goings-on, check out
[url]http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=16405[/url]
Kaliningrad seems to be in fashion these days. By a strange coincidence, I had planned a short trip before One O Nine's report was even posted - hitting "Kenig" on November 28 and leaving on the evening of Dec 2. Glad to hear it's happy hunting! And as always, if you're in town the first beer (or Bloody Mary!) is on me.
Any recommendations on bars and clubs? I'm going there for the first time. Planeta/Dikii Dyuk seemed nice judging by the photos and reviews.
Guys don't be folled by this report.
Yes Nizhny Tagil is not the best place in the world, and there's many murders in Russia. Russia has one of the highest murder rate in the world. But it doesn't mean you will be killed.
Each year 2-3 hundreds of prostitutes end up dead in Moscow alone but no body makes a fuss about it.
As Russians love to say "Drunkards and prostitutes don't deserve tears".
After all EXILE is famous anti russian thing in the style "fucking Russia, fucking Russians, russian bastards".
If you check the about section at [url]http://www.exile.ru/about/[/url] you will notice that most names are not russian at all but manily jewish and muslim. The type typical Russians don't like so for them is ok to slander Russia.
Among other s there's a name of Eduard Limonov the most famous homosexual in Russia. And EXILE offices seems famous for their homosexual parties where Limonka gets lots of blowjobs from EXILE stuff - males of course.
I like when they put pictures of hot looking russian girls like this:
[url]http://www.exile.ru/blog/detail.php?BLOG_ID=18792[/url]
[url]http://www.exile.ru/blog/detail.php?BLOG_ID=19003[/url]
[url]http://www.exile.ru/blog/detail.php?BLOG_ID=19005[/url]
[url]http://www.exile.ru/blog/detail.php?BLOG_ID=18798[/url]
They will give an instant hard on to every normal heterosexual man but EXILE guys prefer to put stupid comments under the images.
My favorite is article about Ulyanovsk and a girl who likes being a pro:
[url]http://exiledonline.com/a-prostitutes-guide-to-ulyanovsk-photo-essay/[/url]
Opposite to this Yasha guy I'd hit her but was little disappointed since in the article there's nothing from "prostitutes guide photo essay".
Kurenda,
Have to agree with you about the [i]Exile[/i]. On the scale of journalistic excellence, it's somewhere between [i]The Sun[/i] and the [i]National Enquirer[/i].
Strav I don't read The Sun and the National Enquirer so can't comment on them.
But it's obvious this Exile is full of говна.
Their printed version is banned in Russian and also their web edition is banned from servers in Russia.
kurenda, with all due respect, your post reflects a mixture of ingrained russian prejudice (against jews and muslims, among other things) and recent government propaganda. ames & co. can be blamed for many things, but gay they certainly aren't.
firstly, the exile, before the current russian government censored it using an approach reminiscent of soviet times, was not anti-russian; quite the opposite. it was cynical about putin & cronies and critical of certain aspects of russia, no doubt about it. they liked their free speech, and 1990s moscow which was truly free in many respects, more so indeed than the us or other so-called beacons of democracy. that's why ames came to love russia.
these guys thoroughly enjoyed living in moscow and had many russian friends, and everyone with a more than superficial knowledge of the exile can confirm this.
it is well known in russia that nizhny tagil is not a very wholesome place. i didn't say the poster would get killed, and didn't try to dissuade him from going there. all i told him was to be careful.
[QUOTE=SlutLover] Exile.[/QUOTE]
I personally find the "Face Control, the Savage Lust of Mother Russia!" column really witty and funny.
SlutLover I said what most people in Russia think including their prejudice.
You may know or not, but todays Russia is far from the Russia of the 1990's when really everything was possible.
Ames came to love Russia but he probably never heard or did not pay attention to the old russian saying:
"Don't love Russia because Russia will never return this love".
I agree: the Russian 'nineties are long gone. Perhaps they were a unique result of historical circumstance, and perhaps there won't be a crazy and wondrous place and time like this any more in our lifetime.
It makes me sad, although most Russians are of course better off now materially than they were then, and will wholeheartedly disagree.
And one more thing, Kurenda: I love Russia - I loved it back then, and I love it now. In some ways, this love has been returned, and I'm not referring to easy sex (which is nice, of course) or business relationships.
[QUOTE=SlutLover]
It is well known that Nizhny Tagil is NOT a very wholesome place.
[/QUOTE]
Besides milk factories and day care centers, is anywhere in Russia very wholesome?
Especially in the middle of the Urals in December? You might as well be in Chechnya.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]"Don't love Russia because Russia will never return this love".[/QUOTE]Kurenda,
Not true. Russia will return your love: but in its own way, in its own time and on its own terms.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]
Russia loves me in its own way, time, and terms.
[/QUOTE]
Terms= 7500 rubles
Time =2 hours
Way = RCG, COF
You're starting to sound more like Truman Capote than a Hungry Duck wh0remaster vor v zakone with stars on his chest. What happened to all your Eastern Promises.
Bez,
OK, you lost me now. I think you're in a whole 'nother di-mension, buddy.
Don't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]
Bez, you lost me now.
Don't have the foggiest what you talk about.
[/QUOTE]
I always maintain several dimensions between myself and the rest of you.
Its the only sane way to approach the mongering lifestyle.
I'm sure by now you've confirmed this with your confidant Pizzy, my only ever attempt at making contact. Take me out of the provinces, and I'm a carp out of the Volga.
There's no link to connect us, and I'll be damn proud to make sure there never is.
But you're the one philosophizing contrasts to Kurenda's warning, with your sappy love twaddle. How can you be clueless, when YOU wrote it?
"Russia returns her love on her own terms"?????
Sounds much more like a porozhnyak skopets, than the zhverskiy yobar we all admire.
Next you'll confess you can't make sense of this:
Bez,
Man, what a prickly fucker! Chill dude... life is too short to agonize over ephemeral philosophical distinctions between mongering philosophies, и т.к.
What you need is some Kuschelsex! Mit der kuessen und der schmusen. :D It might mellow you out a little bit (maybe).
Nothing would please me more than to spend a month with you in the provinces hunting down your honey in the photo. But I can't do it, I'm saddled with too many responsibilities. I'm not really a card-carrying ideologue, like yourself. I'm just looking to have a little fun once in a while, usually in Russia.
всего доброво
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Besides milk factories and day care centers, is anywhere in Russia very wholesome?
Especially in the middle of the Urals in December? You might as well be in Chechnya.[/QUOTE]
Bez! It takes a special sort of self-proclaimed genius to be first nitpicking, then equating apples and pears in two consecutive sentences!
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]I'm sure by now you've confirmed this with your confidant Pizzy, my only ever attempt at making contact. Take me out of the provinces, and I'm a carp out of the Volga.[/QUOTE]
BB, I think you'll admit that attempt was mostly mine. As for being Strav's confidant, I'm no more his than yours. I've met you each exactly once, and probably shared a similar number of PMs. So, not sure where you're going with that...
That said, I thought you fit in just fine here in the big city, with the exception that you don't drink much. Or maybe that's just in comparison to me and the guys I usually hang with (ie Skank, SY, and bunch of other alkies!) Yeah, it was my mistake taking you to NF and HD, but I figured you'd at least want to give a face to a name, as despicable as they both are.
As for The Exile, it was a mixed bag, for sure. But there was some pure genius in the writings of Ames and Taibbi. Wh0rer-stories? The Viagra Challenge? The infamous "It Was Us!" Prank? Sure, the bar/club reviews were as stale as three-day-old baguette and the restaurant reviews as pretentious and poseurific they come, but the guys had some fucking [b]balls[/b] to write what they did, and no one can say shit about that.
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]As for The Exile, it was a mixed bag, for sure. But there was some pure genius in the writings of Ames and Taibbi. Wh0rer-stories? The Viagra Challenge? The infamous "It Was Us!" Prank? Sure, the bar/club reviews were as stale as three-day-old baguette and the restaurant reviews as pretentious and poseurific they come, but the guys had some fucking [b]balls[/b] to write what they did, and no one can say shit about that.[/QUOTE]
Couldn't have put it better.
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]
As for The Exile, it was a mixed bag, for sure. But there was some pure genius in the writings of Ames and Taibbi. Wh0rer-stories? The Viagra Challenge? The infamous "It Was Us!" Prank? Sure, the bar/club reviews were as stale as three-day-old baguette and the restaurant reviews as pretentious and poseurific they come, but the guys had some fucking [b]balls[/b] to write what they did, and no one can say shit about that.[/QUOTE]
Amen to M Ames...
I think the recent posts in this thread underline and emphasize the need for us to work together. Given the danger of what we are trying to accomplish, traveling in these places in groups, instead of a single man, is crucial. This is the primary reason I am here.
Unfortunately, what is mostly posted on this forum are stories of a lone traveler meeting an adult professional in a hotel. Noone gets hurt, everything is nice and tidy, and there is no mention of pimps.
To those of you who say "pick up a nice freebie at a club": I find this suggestion rather strange here. You should know, at least on some level, that there are peculiarities and circumstances that force us americans to learn a language and travel overseas. If we were looking to "pick up a nice lonely clubber for ONS", any of us could easily do that in our home nation. Why that suggestion keeps getting posted here does not make sense to me.
I know exactly where I want to go and what I intend to do in Russia. But I'll be damned if I'm going to do this alone. To be honest, I would not feel safe even in the airports of Russia by myself.
The way this forum is set up and the way it is run is not entirely conducive to *meeting* other men who travel. The mods do not allow us to create new threads, I do not believe they let us send private messages to each other. And there is a few other bizarre rules and loopholes. And since I'm on this rant, I might as well include this tidbit. There is actually another forum out there devoted to this same subject. They have a rule where you cannot post in any language other than English! That rule is not only ridiculous, but it's paradoxical given what the forum is about.
[QUOTE=Glazami]
To be honest, I would not feel safe even in the airports of Russia by myself.
[/QUOTE]
Remarkable stuff.
Have you ever been to Russia ???
[QUOTE=Glazami]
Given the danger, traveling in groups is crucial.
I find circumstances that force americans to travel overseas.
It makes no sense that we can easily pick up a nice girl in a club for one night at home.
I know exactly where I want to go and what I intend to do in Russia.
I won't feel safe even in the airports of Russia by myself.
ISG won't let us send pm's to each other.
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Like Gogoots already said, your fears confirm that you've yet to venture out on your own yet.
Are you about 20 years old?
Not that there's anything wrong with that, you just need to grow a pair, unless as I suspect, you're actually a female undercover FBI/FSB/Interpol internet monitor oficer. :p
Yes, you gave yourself away with your, "traveling in groups" warning, that's an obvious LE strategy, given your cowardly nature to act with any independent initiative.
For example, what are these mysterious "circumstances that force americans overseas"? Did you forget, Americans are free to do anything they want and go anywhere they want. Such as being free to get as far as possibly away from FWC dykes like you and enjoy investing billions of bailout taxpayer funds on organized criminal activities in Venezuela, Myanmar, and Kurdistan. :(
Naturally, picking up a freebie at a club is strange to you, because that is perfectly legal, so there's nothing you can do about it.
So exactly where do you want to go, and what do you intend to do?
You want to go arrest somebody while their pants are down around their ankles? :o
ALL of Russia is safe, especially the airports, if you keep your wits about you. Increasing your safety isn't a bad idea, like getting your own driver from someone there you trust. You probably never considered those kind of options. Or you're deliberately trying to scare away any new visitors.
Your last complaint gave really you away, you're required to pay for your membership to send PM's.
It's cool, there's no cheap trips to the Motherland either. ;)
[QUOTE=Glazami]Noone gets hurt, everything is nice and tidy, and there is no mention of pimps.[/QUOTE]No one talks about pimps because there aren't any in Russia. Pimps only exist in countries where prostitution is illegal.
[QUOTE]If we were looking to "pick up a nice lonely clubber for ONS", any of us could easily do that in our home nation.[/QUOTE]IF that's true, then why not stay home?
[QUOTE]To be honest, I would not feel safe even in the airports of Russia by myself.[/QUOTE]What a strange idea. Thousands of people travel through airports in Russia every day without problem. Traveling on a Russian airplane, however, is another matter! :)
[QUOTE]The way this forum is set up and the way it is run is not entirely conducive to *meeting* other men who travel.[/QUOTE]Interesting... are you looking to meet women for sex, or men?
[QUOTE]There is actually another forum out there devoted to this same subject. They have a rule where you cannot post in any language other than English! That rule is not only ridiculous, but it's paradoxical given what the forum is about.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with Jackson's rule about posting in English. This place would be a virtual tower of Babel if everyone could post in whatever language they chose. It would be useless to anyone.
I'm glad to have this opportunity to talk with all of you. I trust that you are wise about the region. I'm not a 20 year old and I have nothing to do with LEA. In fact, quite the opposite. it is the arcane laws of the USA that are pushing me overseas. Some of you may know what "web models" are. I think this kind of photography should be legal. It is not my intention to get into that "argument" in this thread. In order for me to make this position more solid, it is not sufficient that I simply type it onto forums and then have an "academic" debate with anonymous people. I need to have first-hand experience with it. This means that I would need to meet some of the models or their photographers, or both. Any such meeting would be done in public, in the afternoon with security or police all within eyeshot. The people in question could sit behind a table 8 feet away from me if they want. That does not matter. What I need is some sort of material or photograph demonstrating that I have met them. That is what I need at a minimum. Ideally an interview recorded would be great.
I have been all over the internet. I am coming to you guys as a last resort. I cannot do this alone. A single male is easily rejected on grounds that he is not safe or some creepy stalker or etc etc. A group of men is more difficult to turn down. ("There is a whole group of people here to see you. Can you make time?". that kind of thing) When I have had luck in convincing people that I am completely serious about this, the response I inevitably get is: "This is extremely dangerous". Every person in my family has told me that if I try to do this, men around the business will kidnap me and hold me for ransom. Or variations on these threats; that they will kill me and burn the body. Then I come here and read stories about organized crime burying a graveyard of teen girls. Without any other knowledge, one would surmise there is some truth about the danger of this. in spite your claim that Russia is "totally safe everywhere".
To summarize. I need *more guys* for this project. The more the better. I am not looking to meet men for sex. I need men who are willing to travel. I have completely exhausted the places on the internet which contain men who are already very interested in web models. They all repeat a litany of excuses about how dangerous it would be to do this and how they have no interest in leaving their little towns. I have been working on this for over 2 years now. I was talking to one of the girl's webmasters for over a year. He disappeared suddenly under strange circumstances. All his friends say he is not even answering his phone. I can't tell any longer who is being honest or who is making things up. If I could just get enough damned people in a room to cooperate we could pull this off. As you know this is not something I could simply advertise in the newspaper. And you can't just walk into a bowling alley and ask people if they are interested in traveling to russia. You guys are my last hope. I need help. I would be glad to hear any of your thoughts on this. Any of your wisdom would be helpful to me.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky]No one talks about pimps because there aren't any in Russia. Pimps only exist in countries where prostitution is illegal. [/QUOTE]
For all I know (unless my information is outdated!) prostitution is illegal in Russia and carries a four-digit rouble fine, which is why dodging the police is important at Moscow tochki. However, unlike the recruitment of new prostitutes and the organisation of prostitution (Articles 240 and 241 of the Russian Penal Code: [url]http://www.consultant.ru/popular/ukrf/[/url]), it is not a criminal offence.
Nevertheless, pimps ( сутенёры ) do, in fact, exist. But of course a lot of prostitution is pimp-free, e.g. through sites like Mamba or by pros/semi-pros in clubs.
[QUOTE=Glazami]To those of you who say "pick up a nice freebie at a club": I find this suggestion rather strange here. You should know, at least on some level, that there are peculiarities and circumstances that force us americans to learn a language and travel overseas. If we were looking to "pick up a nice lonely clubber for ONS", any of us could easily do that in our home nation. Why that suggestion keeps getting posted here does not make sense to me.
[/QUOTE]
Unless you are so drop-dead gorgeous and charming that you can go to a New York club and leave with a Paris Hilton lookalike any night of the year, you will probably find that the freebies you can pick up in Russia are several notches out of your league back home.
In any case, you are totally missing the point of this forum. This forum is *mostly* about travelling (or moving) to another country to meet more, or sexier, women to fuck, although of course a minority of users will already live in a foreign country before joining ISG.
If that strikes you as shockingly amoral and politically incorrect, and if even the thought of a Russian airport makes you tremble with fear, then frankly and without wishing to cause offence, you should grow a pair of balls at home before contemplating a trip to Russia.
[QUOTE=Glazami]This means that I would need to meet some of the models or their photographers, or both. Any such meeting would be done in public, in the afternoon with security or police all within eyeshot. The people in question could sit behind a table 8 feet away from me if they want.
Every person in my family has told me that if I try to do this, men around the business will kidnap me and hold me for ransom. Or variations on these threats; that they will kill me and burn the body. Then I come here and read stories about organized crime burying a graveyard of teen girls.
I was talking to one of the girl's webmasters for over a year. He disappeared suddenly under strange circumstances. All his friends say he is not even answering his phone. [/QUOTE]
OK, I get it. This is some kind of a joke, right? Where's the hidden camera?
Jackson, you need to tweak whatever code is flagging RoD candidates. It's picking up some weird shit.
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[QUOTE=Glazami]Some of you may know what "web models" are. I think this kind of photography should be legal. It is not my intention to get into that "argument" in this thread.
I need to have first-hand experience with it. This means that I would need to meet some of the models or their photographers, or both. Any such meeting would be done in public, in the afternoon with security or police all within eyeshot. The people in question could sit behind a table 8 feet away from me if they want.
What I need is some sort of material or photograph demonstrating that I have met them. That is what I need at a minimum. Ideally an interview recorded would be great.
Every person in my family has told me that if I try to do this, men around the business will kidnap me and hold me for ransom. Or variations on these threats; that they will kill me and burn the body. Then I come here and read stories about organized crime burying a graveyard of teen girls.
Thanks
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Have you ever left the states?
WHY IS IT that YOUR three sentence post is automatically suggested by the Editor for a Report of Distinction?
As for Glazed-Eye, the ONLY thing we know now is that he's not 20 or a cop, and that he needs to meet web models and their photographers, because he cannot do "this" alone, and he is completely serious about "this", and he's been working on "this" for 2 years, and he needs men willing to travel, because he needs more guys for "this project", since his family is sure he'll get kidnapped if he does "this", because he doesn't have first hand experience with "it".
If the "this", that he repeats over and over and over and over, without EVER explaining what "this" IS, is nothing more than simply creating and selling russian porn on the internet, or setting up web-cam girls, maybe our fearful indirect beating around the bush friend FIRST AND FOREMOST needs to EXPLAIN already, WHY he wants to do "this"??????
Or even better, WHAT in God's name makes you think that you CAN???
Because the fact of the matter is, if you want to produce and sell internet porn, you need to DO IT in your OWN country. If you think you can start out in that business by just waltzing into another country and setting up shop, YOU CAN'T.
Unless you're already Porn King Rocco Siffreddi. If that's the case, just show up in St. Pitrsberg with a wad of cash, and go to the Porno Agencies, and order your models and cameras, pay for them, and start filming.
Or at least, if you've made up your puny mind and somehow convinced yourself that you CAN do "this", that is, start your own Evil Empire of Porn, and of course you are COMPLETELY UNABLE to explain HOW you think you can, why not at least try it somewhere else first, in let's say, I don't know, WEST Europe, or even Czech Republic or Poland, or Slovakia, or the Baltics, at least there you might have a shot.
But Russia, FIRST??? You might as well try Bhutan or Myanmar or the Vatican!
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]WHY IS IT that YOUR three sentence post is automatically suggested by the Editor for a Report of Distinction?[/QUOTE]It's not. I copied that from Glazami. Reports are recommended for RoD by the system, not a human, which is how Glazami's bizarre report ended up with an Editor's recommendation.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]
It's not.
[/QUOTE]
Check Post #850.
Sorry, its 5 sentences.
[QUOTE=Glazami]
Any such meeting would be done in public, in the afternoon with security or police all within eyeshot. The people in question could sit behind a table 8 feet away from me if they want. That does not matter.
EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
May I respectfully suggest that if the default mode that appears to automatically refer any post of a sufficient length, irrespective of content, for the aforementioned ROD status continues, then Jackson or his representative may very well find themselves at some future date behind that particular 8 foot desk.
Time to get a little serious ???
[QUOTE=Gergiev]May I respectfully suggest that if the default mode that appears to automatically refer any post of a sufficient length, irrespective of content, for the aforementioned ROD status continues, then Jackson or his representative may very well find themselves at some future date behind that particular 8 foot desk.
Time to get a little serious ???[/QUOTE]
Goes to prove that there is still no such thing as artificial intelligence. Which is quite sad from Glazami's point of view, because there's no way out for him.
Okay so some background is needed here. The basic template for a 'web model' goes as follows: a young girl sets up a website that delivers her photos posing in lingerie or bikinis and etc. If she advertises herself well, her photographers are decent, and the other factors all line up, she can pull in over 80 thousand USD per year from website subscriptions. By the time she is ready for college, she drives to campus in a shiny new BMW fully bought with her own money.
Despite the facts that this is far safer than even dancing in a non-nude club 12 feet away from men, and that there is certainly no force involved whatsoever, web modeling still does not go over well in places such as the United States. The example I will cite here is Sierra from Texas, whose family was split asunder and I assume she lives in a foster home now. Sierra was not that pretty (homely). Even then the number cited by the police is "at least 80K per year". One of the Texan police who busted the operation was quoted as saying "They were basically pimping their daughter out over the internet. " Now, on some level of this man's mind, he must have known he was using a flowery metaphor. Unfortunately, being an American, with their amazing capacity for naivete, he probably wasn't conscious that he was being metaphorical.
Of course noone was being "pimped" at all. That language made it sound like they were bringing men in through the back door of the house at all hours. Nothing like that happens at all, ever. However, this is exactly how the american media spins the story in order to manufacture consent for what the police and courts are doing. The operations are not specifically illegal (as far as I know? Perchance something was snuck through congress?) Children's services acts on hints and then courts split the family into pieces citing things such as "lifestyle of the parents". In any case, the laws from 30 years ago do not fit the world with internet in it, but we would like to think that they do, so we stretch the law, lie to ourselves, and pull legal strings to end something that our christian-conservative worldview perceives as being "not so right".
So now Sierra will not be driving to college in a BMW. And I assume she must be in church service now with her fundamentalist foster parents. (Maybe she will never see college, being home-schooled in the Bible- I digress). But what have we gained? A warm, fuzzy feeling in our hearts that we saved the poor sensitive girls from. From what? Saved them from *what* exactly?
So yes, I think the stuff should be legal. In many places it is. Some models operate in sync with a dedicated fanbase. In some cases they meet on forums. Sure, there are some pervs included in small percentage. But by and large, the fanbase has what I would describe as *PARENTAL CONCERN* for the model's welfare. A person who knows the truth of this wrote the same thing in an article on wikipedia. I haven't looked lately to see if his words of truth have been taken down, although they probably have been.
[QUOTE=Glazami]
Okay so a young girl posing in lingerie lines up website subscriptions.
[/QUOTE]
Hey Goze-Wammy!!
There was just SOMETHING that smelled WAY too fishy in your first post.
So it must be nothing less than the biggest coincidence of all time, that you just happened to leave out one little minor insignificant detail, that your entire business proposition is based on selling photos of pre-puberty girls in their underwear.
NO WONDER you're scared shitless to get searched in a Russian airport when the cops find thousands of THOSE photos in your laptop.
While it may not be illegal,
THAT SHIT DEFINITELY DON'T FLY ON ISG.
Please don't get offended,
BUT YOU ARE FUCKING BANNED!
glazami,
you are a sick fuck.
i believe jackson has a strict policy about discussing **** sex, and for good reason.
not to beat a dead horse, but this goes well beyond discussing.
though this is not about sex per se, it is about recruiting members by appealing to their lowest base levels of greed, to conspire in widespread exploitation of families in economic desperation, in the name of free enterprise capitalistic entrepreneurship, around a gray area of the law.
for several years, there have been many dozens of these websites, with thousands of subscribers, generating sizable profits for the publishers. nothing new here, agree or disagree, its part of the internet, like it or not.
but posting for the purpose to recruit isg members into the business of **** lingerie modeling websites, should be banned.
at least, put it to a vote:
all those for?
all those against?
[quote=bez bezarra]though this is not about sex per se, it is about recruiting members by appealing to their lowest base levels of greed, to conspire in widespread exploitation of families in economic desperation, in the name of free enterprise capitalistic entrepreneurship, around a gray area of the law.[/quote]
i agree that this kind of post shouldn't be on isg. neither do i see the attraction of **** bikini modelling. perhaps wholesale moral outrage along the lines of "exploitation" might be evidence of a double standard - not sure if, say, p4p group sex with an 18-year old, which i guess is fine to write about in this forum, is inherently that much more moral than bikini modelling with a 15-year old.
it was always going to be artificial to suggest that, for example, sex (or for that matter, bikini modelling) with a girl at legal age minus one day is, on first principles, immoral while one day later the same thing is totally fine. especially as the legal age for both sex and bikini modelling might be the same, which means that bikini modelling was wrong yesterday and a gangbang is ok tomorrow.
however, at the end of the day, without getting too emotional about it, the line has to be drawn somewhere. i suspect glazami has crossed it, and should be prevented from writing further posts about the matter. this forum should stay well clear of the sexual objectification of **** girls both for practical and ethical reasons.
[quote=stravinsky]
i believe jackson has a strict policy about discussing **** sex, and for good reason.
[/quote]
strav (& bb & sl),
if you look further down you'll see that the editor (jackson?) actually recommended glazami's initial post on the subject for rod status.
and it's ourselves here that are policing this one in the absence of any intervention.
some clarification from 'above' would be helpful.
what's going on ???
[quote=gergiev]
jackson recommended sleaze-grimy's initial post for rod.
what's going on ???
[/quote]
non-senior member posts, that exceed a certain number of words, automatically generate an rod rec.
they aren't even read by agent j.
if you write, "go fuck yourself" enough times, its gets rod'd.
groggy, this isn't a simple case of some butt-head whining about 'what's wrong with doing an 18 year old a week before her birthday".
this is a recruiter for the let's all go find cash-starved russian parents and take and sell their child's underwear photos biz.
you want this guy here looking for partners to sell your kid's at the beach photos on the web?
isg's purpose isn't to judge child modeling websites, but isg ain't the forum for a discussion on it. i think maybe once there was a thread years ago about ****, but then it got locked, and its long gone.
legal though modeling may be, there's other forums for that.
but this subject is the only reason glasseyemooly posted here, so he's gotta go!
i propose/suggest this is easily extreme enough, that it could be/should be swiftly handled here and now and quickly disposed of. i mean, do we really need to wait for grandpa jack to hold our little hands? are we that short on balls that we can't act accordingly, in the presence of evil?
all those for banishing?
those against?
[quote=slutlover]i agree that this kind of post shouldn't be on isg. neither do i see the attraction of **** bikini modelling. perhaps wholesale moral outrage along the lines of "exploitation" might be evidence of a double standard - not sure if, say, p4p group sex with an 18-year old, which i guess is fine to write about in this forum, is inherently that much more moral than bikini modelling with a 15-year old.
it was always going to be artificial to suggest that, for example, sex (or for that matter, bikini modelling) with a girl at legal age minus one day is, on first principles, immoral while one day later the same thing is totally fine. especially as the legal age for both sex and bikini modelling might be the same, which means that bikini modelling was wrong yesterday and a gangbang is ok tomorrow.
however, at the end of the day, without getting too emotional about it, the line has to be drawn somewhere. i suspect glazami has crossed it, and should be prevented from writing further posts about the matter. this forum should stay well clear of the sexual objectification of **** girls both for practical and ethical reasons.[/quote]
eloquently written, slutlover. indeed, life isn't black and white, and though i'm not by nature a judgmental person (he who casts the first stone and so forth) i do take issue with attempts to conscribe fellow forum members for activities which are off-topic at best, and illegal at worst.
bez - after the numerous tongue lashings you and others have administered, do you really think glazami will return for more punishment? though i don't have a lot of experience with these types, i suspect he'll just silently move on to the next potential avenue in hopes of eventually bringing his dodgy agenda to fruition.
Correct diagnosis, I think. Glazami's post count has remained rather static at the proud number of 4.
Well, given his age preference it's rather fortunate he's called Glazami and not Rukami or Khuyem.
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Bez - after the numerous tongue lashings you and others have administered, do you really think Glazami will return for more punishment? Though I don't have a lot of experience with these types, I suspect he'll just silently move on to the next potential avenue in hopes of eventually bringing his dodgy agenda to fruition.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlutLover]
Well, given his age preference it's rather fortunate he's called Glazami and not Rukami or Khuyem.[/QUOTE]
Amen, brother! Though it does make me second-guess my own choice for a nickname. Maybe I should change it to Yazykom. :)
Gentlemen,
I have been to Kaliningrad from Nov 28 to Dec 2.
Non-pros are plentiful and willing, albeit on the whole slightly more conservative.
In terms of clubs, I've gone slightly off the beaten path. On weekday nights, Atlantika and Atlas seemed remarkably solid options, although you will need to speak Russian - they're not exactly upper-class expat joints.
Lots of fun can be had. Comparison:
Ready for one-nighter/foreigner bonus
Kaliningrad - 2/5
Moscow - 5/3
Kiev - 3/4
In short, if you want a hot girl and have time, go to KGD/Kiev.
If you don't care about freebies and want cheap *****s, go to KGD/Kiev.
If you want one-night stands and don't care about her beauty, go to Moscow - loads of ugly sluts that are very easy.
If you have game and are confident, go to Moscow - you will score more quickly.
If you are a billionaire, go to Moscow - it attracts the most beautiful girls.
I'm back in Moscow from the 24th. Beer, anyone? ;)
[QUOTE=SlutLover]Comparison:
Ready for one-nighter/foreigner bonus
Kaliningrad - 2/5
Moscow - 5/3
Kiev - 3/4
In short, if you want a hot girl and have time, go to KGD/Kiev.
If you don't care about freebies and want cheap *****s, go to KGD/Kiev.
If you want one-night stands and don't care about her beauty, go to Moscow - loads of ugly sluts that are very easy.
If you have game and are confident, go to Moscow - you will score more quickly.
If you are a billionaire, go to Moscow - it attracts the most beautiful girls.
[/QUOTE]
Hey SL, I don't have nearly as much provincial experience as someone like Bez, but in general I'd agree with your assessment. The beauty of Moscow is its anonymity. You can go to the same club two nights in a row and often not run into the same people at all. Try that in some backwater provincial Russian town with only one or two popular nightclubs. And yes, girls here in Moscow are more desperate than ever...
[QUOTE=SlutLover]Gentlemen,
I have been to Kaliningrad from Nov 28 to Dec 2.
Non-pros are plentiful and willing, albeit on the whole slightly more conservative.
In terms of clubs, I've gone slightly off the beaten path. On weekday nights, Atlantika and Atlas seemed remarkably solid options, although you will need to speak Russian. They're not exactly upper-class expat joints.
Lots of fun can be had. Comparison:
Ready for one-nighter/foreigner bonus
Kaliningrad. 2/5
Moscow. 5/3
Kiev. 3/4
In short, if you want a hot girl and have time, go to KGD/Kiev.
If you don't care about freebies and want cheap *****s, go to KGD/Kiev.
If you want one-night stands and don't care about her beauty, go to Moscow. Loads of ugly sluts that are very easy.
If you have game and are confident, go to Moscow. You will score more quickly.
If you are a billionaire, go to Moscow. It attracts the most beautiful girls.
I'm back in Moscow from the 24th. Beer, anyone?.[/QUOTE]Season's Greetings To you and all ISG members.
Kaliningrad, has been on my radar for a while, and have been thinking
Of various routes to do it.
The most reasonable way to do it, for me from london, would be to catch a budget airline like Ryanair, and fly to Gdansk in poland, then it is a few hours on the bus to kgd.
But the thing is, they no longer issue Russian visas on the border to kgd, for
UK and US citizens.
This means, that accommodation in kgd has to be prebooked prior to applying for a Russian visa at their embassy in London, which is a hassle.
My question, is there another alternative to this, as I like sometimes to travel on a very short notice, to take advantage of hugely discounted airfares, which are on sale for a few days only?
How did you find the associated costs with mongering in kgd, like taxis clubs, drinks, hotels, compared to Moscow or Kiev?
These expenses have to be taken into account, when one is considering the mongering scene, in addition to the costs of P4P
KGD and Tiraspol are on my list of things to see and monger in 2010.
Many thanks for any input.
BBC news reported yesterday that Medvedev is planning to deploy upgraded nukes in Kgrad as part of his strategic plan to deter American aggression. Not that they're not already there, at least in the subs. This in response to Bush's missile shield plan in Poland against Iran, regardless that Obama has shelved it.
Unless you're 007, better get your tourist mongering done there soon.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]BBC news reported yesterday that Medvedev is planning to deploy upgraded nukes in Kgrad as part of his strategic plan to deter American aggression. Not that they're not already there, at least in the subs. This in response to Bush's missile shield plan in Poland against Iran, regardless that Obama has shelved it.
Unless you're 007, better get your tourist mongering done there soon.[/QUOTE]Bez, I read that KGD, was a closed military zone during the times of the Soviet Union.
I am not 007. I am 0069, hence no photos from me, because I only carry condoms.
But, some photos of 2 girls, that I banged here in london, in one of the upmarket areas in london, and in a beautiful apartment.
Sally, and Lia on [url]www.Houseofdivine.com[/url]
London location.
Both are beautiful, and the bonus with Lea, she just loves it up her ass.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]BBC news reported yesterday that Medvedev is planning to deploy upgraded nukes in Kgrad as part of his strategic plan to deter American aggression. Not that they're not already there, at least in the subs. This in response to Bush's missile shield plan in Poland against Iran, regardless that Obama has shelved it.
Unless you're 007, better get your tourist mongering done there soon.[/QUOTE]Bez, I read that KGD, was a closed military zone during the times of the Soviet Union.
I am not 007. I am 0069, hence no photos from me, because I only carry condoms.
But, some photos of 2 girls, that I banged here in london, in one of the upmarket areas in london, and in a beautiful apartment.
Sally, and Lia on [url]www.Houseofdivine.com[/url]
London location.
Both are beautiful, and the bonus with Lea, she just loves it up her ass.
Bez, you better get your ass over to london soon.
Happy New Year.
KGD is definitely cheaper than Kiev, and Kiev is much cheaper than Moscow. You can rent a flat in KGD for as little as 1000 roubles per night. More basic drinks (beer, vodka & orange) were sometimes 100 roubles or less in the less posh clubs I have been to. Taxis are also a mere 100 roubles across the centre of town.
[QUOTE=Jojosun]
How did you find the associated costs with mongering in kgd, like taxis clubs, drinks, hotels, compared to Moscow or Kiev?
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlutLover]KGD is definitely cheaper than Kiev, and Kiev is much cheaper than Moscow. You can rent a flat in KGD for as little as 1000 roubles per night. More basic drinks (beer, vodka & orange) were sometimes 100 roubles or less in the less posh clubs I have been to. Taxis are also a mere 100 roubles across the centre of town.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply.
KGD for me next, nukes or no nukes.
Happy New Year.
[quote=bez bezarra]but posting for the purpose to recruit isg members into the business of **** lingerie modeling websites, should be banned. [/quote]could you try to verbalize, precisely and objectively, what it is you find so horrible about this safe, harmless fun?
[quote=glazami]
could you try to verbalize, precisely and objectively, what it is you find so horrible about this safe, harmless fun?
[/quote]
welcome back my colleague of questionable pedigree.
disclaimer: i'm not sure that i've ever verbalized anything precisely and objectively, due to my oddball nature and tendencies to expound extraneous loads of crapola and effluential pontificatory ramblerizings.
but i will offer my semi-best reply to your query.
horrible? well, that's merely in the eye of the beholder. photos of the human female form, whether they be 8 or 80, are not inherently distasteful. this has nothing to do with what my opinions are relative to amateur modeling, and your interests in finding russian parents open to agreeing to try it with their family members. to be perfectly factual, this particular type of activity is something that has already been in practice for several years, takes place today, and will likely continue in the future, so long as parents want and/or need money. whether its sleepwear for advertising department store clothing or swimsuits for surfing magazines or mini-skirts high society fashion couture, **** modeling is no new phenomenon.
as i, and some others on isg preach here relentlessly, to each his own, is a monger credo to live by to prevent life from becoming intolerably monotonous and also to keep us from constantly over-running each other in our pursuit of hobby.
however, the board must maintain a certain decorum of acceptable legitimacy for its operator to avoid legal harassment in order to operate without undue entanglements with authorities quick to impose judgement, in a world where certain lines must be drawn between what is and what is not consenting behavior between adults, and behavior that would involve an individual that has yet to reach that legally recognized status.
in simple terms, discussion of individuals that have lived 6,569 days or less on earth are prohibited in this forum. once they get to the 6,570th day, you can fuck them into the stratosphere, discuss how many of their holes you fouled with your unwashed throbber, and photograph the looks of regret and painful shame until your data cards are filled to capacity, and bring them all here for a grand showing. no one will deny you that right.
but you can't recruit here, for partners, or even for advice, for business ventures involving children. no matter how safe and fun they may be. forget that they may be not the least bit horrible, even if they are 100% wonderful, don't come here for that. you simply can't do it here. because this is a sex forum for adults, not a modeling forum, and it is therefore strictly limited to a discussion of adults, by adults, and about adults.
for all we know, its as likely that you work for interpol, the fsb, or some sex crime division of some le agency in europe, usa, outer mongolia, or all of the above, and you're just bottom-phishing for anything you can drag your hooks into, to snare some lurker you hope you could find here and make your job easier, as it is that you just suddenly appeared on the horizon 3 months ago looking for new partners in this weird business you claim to know all about.
so for the last time, take it elsewhere. your kind, whichever it may be, is not welcome here. why don't you try the chat rooms where you busted those other kiddie porn rings, or have you lied so many times to entrap people that no one will believe you anymore. now that's some horrible shit.
sounds like just the place where you belong. what is it they say, when you sink down to the lowest level and ingratiate yourself with the locals through continuous pure dishonesty and ill-willed misrepresentations, and remain there, you become the very thing you started out to clean up. you've lost your soul, so enjoy hell, at least its warm down there.
[QUOTE=SlutLover]I agree that this kind of post shouldn't be on ISG.
However, at the end of the day, without getting too emotional about it, the line has to be drawn somewhere. ....[/QUOTE]
Indeed the line is drawn everywhere in the world at 00.00am of the day when the individual gets into Legal Age.
As you say, one might argue that LA -1 minute is not much different than LA +1 minute. But that is where the line is drawn and all the people has to stick to it.
We also know there is people gambling with the Age of Consent pretending it is a sort of Sex Legal Age. But we also know what Age of Consent is, and nobody can play with that too.
We have here someone (not you, SL) that is trying to legitimate what is not legitimate all, nearly anywhere in the world!
I am honestly surprised Jackson has let his words go so far till now! (I have reached the reading till the above quotede post, so far.
Bez,
молодец! Well said. I do believe that was the most coherent statement you've every made.
Best not to feed the Troll any more, though, particularly after midnight. He will turn into a sick fuck, and start jerking off to pictures of pubescent panties revealed under Baby Doll outfits.
It's not a pretty sight.
I think what everyone has posted is pretty reasonable. Modeling is still largely safe and harmless. But because this website attracting attention from nannies, we have to exclude certain material in our posts. That's fine. I think its hasty to associate it with poverty, as we have had girls from France, Florida, and a few from the midwest. Noone is exploiting the models or depriving them of their autonomy (which is really what the nannies should be concerned about. They are not. What they want is a "big bust" so they can beat their chests.) I know that you guys communicate in terms of business propositions, so that's how you normally situate yourselves from each other. But I really was not asking for business partners. Someone else said that and it got rolled into my posts somehow. Alright. Midnight approaches so I have some pictures to attend to.
[QUOTE=Glazami]
I know that you guys communicate in terms of propositions.
I was not asking for business partners.
Someone else said that.
[/QUOTE]
NOT asking for partners?
Shall I quote you?
Nobody ELSE said this, YOU did:
"I am coming to you guys as I cannot do this alone."
"I emphasize the need for us TO WORK TOGETHER."
"A GROUP OF MEN is difficult to turn down."
I guess you were hoping we would all sign up as volunteers to assist you, out of the goodness of our hearts, so we could watch you keep the membership payments all for yourself?
Granted I've been on your case from the start, but if you walk like a duck, quack like a duck, and shit like a duck, you're a dirty fucking duck fucker!!
Say, is there a ban here on bestiality?
[QUOTE=Glazami]But because this website attracting attention from nannies, we have to exclude certain material in our posts. [/QUOTE]
I'm not a nanny. Believe it or not. And I profoundly dislike your posts.
Evening all.
Heres my report on Vladivostok, excuse my lateness with it.
I’ve now been there several times.
N.B. N.B. N. B. Some quite personal points I’ve blanked for reasons of discretion for others, so just PM me and I’ll send you full copy.
Vladivostok is a stunning city, It has a true Russian heart, only years after the fall of communism was it finally opened to the public. I treat the city and people with respect. It is nothing like Moscow. Moscow is literally a world apart from Vladivostok. They don’t like Moscow. Vladivostok business pays a lot of tax to Moscow and very little of it ever comes back this way. If I was Russian and lived in Moscow I’d catch the Trans Siberian and go live in Vladivostok. It’s a lot more sophisticated and natural than dirty old Moscow. The people seem a happier beside the Pacific Ocean in Vladivostok.
To start with here are a few sites of interest.
Read the lonely planet guide to Russian chapter Vladivostok.
[url]http://vladivostoktimes.com/travel/?s=100[/url]
[url]http://vladivostoktimes.com[/url]
[url]http://primorochki.ru/[/url]
[url]http://vladsex.net/[/url]
[url]http://www.maxi-m.com/model_agency/portfolio/girls/[/url]
[url]http://www.frontier.co.jp/Buromskih%20Irina1.htm[/url] I think a lot of you may recognise Irina from somewhere else?!? Her Art photo name is Anya. [url]http://www.mplstudios.com/anya.htm[/url]
She is from Vladivostok.
The ‘maxi’ and ‘frontier’ websites are are odd, I never took part with them myself, but you can actually arrange to meet these women for dates?! this being aimed at the expensive Japanese Market. And therein lye’s the difference between Vladivostok and the rest of Russian. It is on the Pacific Ocean close to Japan, Korea and of course China. Those influences abound in tourism and also business. Many of the kids learn languages like Japanese and Korean. thats good sense. Vladivostok is not really like provincial Russia, it is on the Pacific Ocean, it has bustling business with Japan, Korea and China.
There are many hotels there. Google search them but I’ve always stayed at Hotel Vladivostok. It is classed 3 star but it was great. Large double room, fridge, TV, tiled shower and bathroom, desk etc but what really makes it 10 star is the stunning beautiful sea views. It is on a cliff top above a beach below. The foyer is modern, little shops and cafe. Breakfast is included in the room price. It is buffet in a grand restaurant that looks out over the Ocean. The city and Harbour and beaches and parks and buildings are beautiful. The hotel is easy walking distance to city and beach and bars and cafes. Just a short walk along the seafront. Yep! if I could I’ld live there forever.
It is actually 2 hotels, Hotel Vladivostok above the cliff and the other over the road embedded into the cliff Hotel Amursky Zaiv right on the beach. They are run by the same management.
PM me and I will send you full copy of below
So with all that on offer, they are going to get you and even if you make it past all that, they will ring you in your room. Just like Hotel California you can never leave and there is no escape. And even if you don’t answer the phone they will break down the door and put a girl in your bed and make you a cup of tea. Just joshing on that last bit.
I went in late Summer, early September sunny hot days and open windowed sea breeze nights.
[url]http://www.azimuthotels.ru/en/hotels/vladivostok/about_hotel/[/url]
Is the Hotel website. They have a chain of hotels. Book a comfort double room on the ninth floor. 2700 roubles, compare that with Moscow. Do not the book the Hotel Amursky Zaiv option, that is the hotel over the road which is a good hotel but i have only limited knowledge of it. Several years back it was a dump but on my most recent visit I discovered Hotel Amursky Zaiv has had a stunning renovation. Its slightly cheaper if that fits. It is also run by Hotel Vladivostok. In actuality to complicate things further they are buildling a new Hotel Vladivostok behind the present one. It is going to tower above and have views both sides of the Harbour. It will be 5 star. It is suppose to be finished ahead of APEC. Because there building the new 5 star Hotel Vladivostok they don’rtreally renovate the old Hotel Vladivostok anymore, so don’t trip up on any worn carpet in some hallways.
Use [url]http://unifest.ru/en/about.html[/url] to book airfare from Moscow to Vlad, they are good and well priced. You can book online then pick your tickets up in Moscow at their office or they can send them to you. They seem to have the best rates online and are reputable. If your going the other way, fly thru Seoul if you can get a fair airfare but Korean Air charges extortionate rates for the 1.5 hr flight from Seoul to Vladivostok. First time I went I went by ship from Korea, that was a real adventure. Do a search on my previous reports on that. I have lately been looking at flights through China. Whatever do protest at a Korean Air office over the rates they charge for such a short flight. There is some online protest over that. Its not the money, its just I don’t like being ripped off.
I also met girls through Mamba there and meet women through various cafes and bars. One girl I meet thru Mamba was great. She’s 19 and a sweet girl. I arranged to meet her at Studio Cafe and she rang me 20 minutes late and said she'ld be 30 minutes, then she rang 30 minutes later and said she'ld be another 30 minutes, then she turned up in a taxi 40 minutes after that. She's a sweet girl, some may call her a spinner, or a little loose but to me she was an angel, some of these girls come from tough backgrounds so have understanding for them. PM me and I will send you full copy of below
Regards Hotel Security it appears low key, but be sure, it is very much there. At the fall of communism there were shootings all over Vladivostok as territory wars were fought. That’s all moved on now and the city has become civilised. One day I was sitting in the large Hotel foyer and these 3 Moscow mafia types started having an argument, something about lost money. As the argument became loud and heated this grey haired 60 year old man appeared from no-where in full camouflage gear. You may think, so what? But he was over 6 ft 6 inches and built like a giant bear and he carried this big revolver pointed sharply downwards with a straight arm. He didn’t even look at the 3 men as he shouted orders at them, he was prowling and surveying the room as if this disturbance was a decoy or something. He made them put their hands on their heads and kneel. The girls at reception were giggling, these 3 Moscow men had been rude before. Now was pay back time, Vladivostok style. They were shocked and shitting themselves. He ordered them to take their argument outside and then he vanished. A little while later 3 men sheepishly came back in and went straight to their rooms. ))
So, as I say, security is there.
Theres much I could write on, I did several of my walkabouts. One evening I walked down Pogranichnaya Ul just 5 minutes from Hotel Vladivostok. As I walked along in the distance I saw 1st floor bright purple lighted full length windows with fluttering curtains. As I got closer I discovered the fluttering curtains were in fact lingerie ladies dancing with long veils. I guess you could say this was an establishment of interest of which I paid a visit. The girls danced on the stage and bar in turns. I drank Coronas. Great place with modern decoy. I didn’t work out how the place operated and what was on offer, and by the time I was slightly tidily I decided to head for Hotel Vladivostok. Again I need to go back to Vladivostok again soon and explore further.
p.s. This is where Yul Brynner was borm and grew up.
Nick C,
Hotels
Hotel Moryak, 38 Posyetskaya St, ☎ (4232) 49-94-99. Cheap, serviceable accommodations a short walk uphill from the city center. English isn't spoken, but the staff are accustomed to foreign visitors. Look for the odd aquatic sign outside. Rooms from $35.
Hotel Hyundai, 29 Semenovskaya St, ☎ (4232) 40-22-33 (fax: (4232) 40-70-08), The height of luxury in Vladivostok, with full business facilities, swimming pool and fitness center, bar, casino, and restaurant on-site. Rooms have satellite TV and air conditioning. Online booking is available. Rooms from 6000R.
Hotel Vladivostok, 10 Naberezhnaya St, ☎ (4232) 41-28-08 (fax: (4232) 41-20-21), Budget and somewhat more upscale rooms, with Wi-Fi and a buffet breakfast; there's a restaurant on-site. Online booking available (with limited Russian). About a ten minute walk from the train station. It's quite an ugly building from the outside, but it faces a nice view to the sea. Bookings may also be available at the Hotel Amursky Zaiv, operated by the same management, across the street. Rooms from 2200R.
Vlad Inn, #35, 8-th Street Sanatornaya, ☎ (4232) 38-88-88 (fax: 1 (508) 590-2432), Reservations can be made online. They offer a free pickup service from the airport. It's a Western-managed hotel with English-speaking staff. Also has a very well-reviewed restaurant on premises. To reach the Vlad Inn, take an elektrichka (commuter train) out to Sanaturnaya (approximately six stops outbound from the Vladivostok train station). From there, it is a short walk. Rooms from $139.
By plane
Vladivostok International Airport (IATA: VVO, ICAO: UHWW) is located near Artyom, some 50 km off the city center, has two airfields with four paved runways, and is able to receive most major types of aircraft, except very large ones such as Boeing 747 or Boeing 777. The main terminal (domestic) recently underwent a major renovation, making it the most modern airport building in the Russian Far East. The international terminal, which is located just next door to domestic one (in fact, they share the same parking), is very small and usually crowded, but as Vladivostok is slated to receive the APEC summit in 2012, the planning of further upgrades are underway. Currently, the main connection from the airport to the city is via local and shuttle buses (ticket price 55 R one-way to the Vladivostok bus station), but they would be later supplemented by the newly built railroad branch.
The airport's anchor airline is Vladivostok Air [3] that serves a majority of its available domestic and international routes. It's the largest airline in the Russian Far East; it operates relatively modern fleet which primarily includes Airbus A320 and Tupolev Tu 204-300 types of aircraft and offers something like European short-haul type of service on all flights.
The busiest destination is Moscow. In average, there are 3-5 flights per day. Flights are much more frequent in summertime (June - September) due to heavy passenger traffic. It is recommended to book an itinerary at least one month in advance during that season in order to get a reasonable fare. Principal carriers to operate this route are Aeroflot Russian Airlines [4], Transaero [5], and S7 Airlines [6]. Other destinations are barely served daily, usually service is less frequent. Besides Moscow, domestic destinations include Saint Petersburg, Novosibirsk, Yekaterinburg, Irkutsk, Khabarovsk and many others. International flights connect Vladivostok with Beijing and Harbin in China; Niigata, Toyama and Osaka in Japan; Busan and Incheon in South Korea; Bangkok in Thailand; Hanoi in Vietnam; and Air Koryo also offers a weekly flight to Pyongyang. Korean Air [7] operates this route 5 times a week (in 2009) and offers flights from the continental US via a connection in Seoul-Incheon. Completion of the new international terminal in Haneda airport and subsequent increase in its capacity may lead to the opening of a direct scheduled flight by ANA to Tokyo, which is now served only by chartered flights to Narita airport.
Unfortunately, due to scarcity of the airlines operating from the airport a lot of destinations are monopolized and tickets are offered at exorbitant fares. For example, realizing its almost monopolistic position to offer connections, Korean Air bargains a fare starting from $800 for 1.5 hours plane ride to Seoul. Vladivostok Air [8] bargains similar extortionate prices for tickets to its Japanese destinations for the same 1.5 hours plane ride. The only real competitive destination is Moscow where a lot of airlines compete with each other, and sometimes really hot deals can be found. There are some hopes that aforementioned openings of a ferry line and additional flights may lead to increased competition and falling prices, but it remains a thing to see in the future.
By train
The Trans-Siberian Railway runs between Vladivostok and Moscow, with stops in major Russian cities like Irkutsk, Novosibirsk, and Ekaterinberg. Fares are from $200 single. Trains to Harbin, China take around 30 hours and cost $50.
By Boat
They now have a new ship with casino, bar, resturant, theatre etc that runs from Korea to Vladivostok
Google it.
PLEASE NOTE vladivostok within the Moscow forum
Nick C
[QUOTE=Nickc]
Use unifest.ru to book airfare from Moscow to Vlad.
They seem to have the best rates.
[/QUOTE]
So how much is a R/T ticket from Moscow, and how long is the flight?
What about direct from Seattle or San Francisco or even Juneau or Anchorage, to bypass Seoul and the big $$ you complained about?
Cheers Bez
thanks for reply.
If you check unifest.ru you just enter approx dates etc and it will calculate
many airfare and airline options. I got a $520 US return airfare lastime from Moscow but there are cheaper options. Approx 9 hrs each way.
Regards the "Seattle or San Francisco or even Juneau or Anchorage" options
i'ld say fly to Seoul catch a bus and catch the ship, or fly to China and fly in from there, or train in. Maybe a little resarch may help.
Cheers Nick C
I've had several PM's for the full report and they have greatly appreciated it.
The information i wanted to PM only is quite a revelation.
P.S. PLEASE DO PM me AND I ASSURE YOU, THE FULL REPORT INFORMATION
IS QUITE STARTLING. A REAL REVELATION.
Read that there is an Aurora 911 in Yekaterinburg. Anybody been there?
I haven't been to the Aurora 911 in Yekaterinburg. But the girl I met in the Moscow Aurora, said that she worked in the Yekaterinburg club. I got the impression that they brought her in specifically for the opening of the Moscow club.
I think the management of the clubs is fairly consistent, so if you like the club in Moscow, you'll probably find the same experience in Yekaterinburg. My guess would be that the prices in Moscow will be more expensive.
There's nothing special in your Private Message of any concern or interest that would surprise or influence any reader here or anywhere else, as your story is pretty common across China.
If business is a little busier in Vladivostok, then it just means that someone's getting better pay offs, its all proportional.
Sure it sounds like a monger could have plenty of affordable fun there, 2000 r per hour is the same price in the provinces, but until we see some fotos of the fare on the menu, to distinguish your city's ladies from any others, then they'll remain about as interesting as Prosal's Tashkent harem, that is to say, only in our collective imagination.
Let's hope Dirkdingy or GogaFung finishes your business for you Sally, and in the meantime, maybe you could see if there's anything else in your camera Nick, but something tells me that there isn't.
Hello Hello
Thanks for reply.
I will try and do better and include more photos for you later.
I'm pleased you found my report interesting. Thank you.
I did try to comment on the quality of the girls
I'm the first to admit that my report is subjective.
Really all reports are subjective, either good or bad.
It was a good experience and i simply expressed what i experienced.
For several months I have been in PM contact with a fellow member whom is visiting there over winter. I have tried to help him as best i could. He has already had good responses through Mamba. I think it will be very different in winter. In someways I can’t imagine it. I think i'll make my visit over winter to. I look forward to that.
Cheers again Nick C
“Below is a cut and paste from of a report by another reporter, google it, his experience was good and he expresses it”.
'Vladivostok Travel Report' Dated Added: Fri Jan 27 2006 Submitted by: Horny Sailor
Vladivostok, eastern Russia. I work on cruise ships and we went to Vladivostok in October 2005. I must say that from all the places I have visited, Vladivostok is by far the place I’ve seen with the more and most beautiful women around!!! It was just unbelievable! Everywhere, every corner, I don’t think I have seen a fat chick all day.
I have scored womens easily in the past with my charms only, but since I was only there from 8AM till 4PM for 1 day only, my only chance was to pay for one. So after trying and trying over and over I was getting quite desperate. I sat down at the main square and 4 good buddies of mine from the ship showed up and were looking for the same thing…
One of them being from Czech Republic could speak a little Russian. So we talked to a cab driver and he took us in the suburb to a house… Inside was about 15 of the most fucking, stunning, beautiful Russian girls I had ever seen. I picked mine and she sucked my dick, no condoms and I fucked her by any ways I wanted. I could have not used a condom to fuck but I preferred to do so…
Anyway, in order to get the 5 girls we spent together $250US. I guess it would have been a little bit more expensive for only one on one but these girls were fucking pretty. It's hard to pick one in that house… So if you ever go there, talk to a cab driver and he’ll hook you up with one of those houses. Maybe… just in Russia. (Review # 13844)
Slutlover and One O Nine, it surprises me that you find it relatively easy to have a freebie in Kgrad.
According to english Wikipedia "Kaliningrad Oblast is the most militarized area of the Russian Federation".
German Wiki says that there are troops positioned which are equivalant to the whole Polish army which has 150, 000 soldiers.
When you take into account that the Kgrad Oblast only has 955, 281 inhabitants
This means that there is a HUUGGEEE cock overhang in the non-retirees group which actually should unavoidable have an extremely negative impact on the regional cock/pussy-demand-market.
Imo the real reason why its easier to have a freebie in Russia is the better sex-ratio there(in the west with good health systems there is always an overhang of men in the non-pensioner group).
Don't get why an at least fuckable Kgrad women is happy to "finally find a good looking guy" for a fuck-unlike other Russian women she should have a wide choice of tough Russian soldiers and be bored of any nonrich or non-model-like advances.
It's not that I don't believe you, but as a future freebie mongerer my first rule actually was to AVOID any City with bigger military bases in the near, as there should be an extremely unbalanced men/women ratio.
[QUOTE=Frulindo]It's not that I don't believe you, but as a future freebie mongerer my first rule actually was to AVOID any City with bigger military bases in the near, as there should be an extremely unbalanced men/women ratio.[/QUOTE]I can't say for sure, however having been to Kaliningrad and had success there (although my success was average... not better or worse than other places), you should probably consider the following in your analysis:
a) soldiers aren't allowed to roam free... they spend the vast majority of their time on base or when they go out, in groups, in uniforms.
b) soldiers are absolutely fucking broke. Zero money. I.e. can't offer a girl jack shit in terms of entertainment.
c) soldiers are quite low on the social totem pole. I am certain that the "fighting for the motherland" factor wins them some points, and there are certain to be some good-looking ones in the bunch, but the word "soldier" and "army" conjurs up mostly negative imagery in Russia... they are crazily patriotic and nationalistic in their love of the military, but also consider it a horrible place where young men are mistreated, officers are corrupt and where only the poor who can't afford to get out of service actually serve... just another Russian paradox.
d) in my nightly excursions, I have never seen a single soldier out and about.
e) conscripted soldiers are very young, 17-19. Ask around... most Russian girls 18+ consider guys in this age group to be shit-dressed, giggling, drunk, ass-grabbing, zero-perspective idiots. Exactly the kind of guys they DON'T want to have.
I really don't think there is the kind of military base culture in Kaliningrad that you might find in a navy port of call with it's rampant sleazy prostitution or it's local sluts who like to fuck Marines etc. That is Australia.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I can't say for sure, however having been to Kaliningrad and had success there (although my success was average. Not better or worse than other places), you should probably consider the following in your analysis:
A) soldiers aren't allowed to roam free. They spend the vast majority of their time on base or when they go out, in groups, in uniforms.
B) soldiers are absolutely fucking broke. Zero money. I. E. Can't offer a girl jack shit in terms of entertainment.
C) soldiers are quite low on the social totem pole. I am certain that the "fighting for the motherland" factor wins them some points, and there are certain to be some good-looking ones in the bunch, but the word "soldier" and "army" conjurs up mostly negative imagery in Russia. They are crazily patriotic and nationalistic in their love of the military, but also consider it a horrible place where young men are mistreated, officers are corrupt and where only the poor who can't afford to get out of service actually serve. Just another Russian paradox.
D) in my nightly excursions, I have never seen a single soldier out and about.
E) conscripted soldiers are very young, 17-19. Ask around. Most Russian girls 18+ consider guys in this age group to be shit-dressed, giggling, drunk, ass-grabbing, zero-perspective idiots. Exactly the kind of guys they DON'T want to have.
I really don't think there is the kind of military base culture in Kaliningrad that you might find in a navy port of call with it's rampant sleazy prostitution or it's local sluts who like to fuck Marines etc. That is Australia.[/QUOTE]Thank you Doc, for your analysis.
I am inclined towards Kaliningrad for a bit of the Russian experience albiet at a cheaper price, than taking my ass all the way over to Tiraspol, another place on my radar.
Air fares from London to Gdansk poland, are cheap as chips sometimes.
Then a hop on the bus to Kgd.
And if nothing works out there, I have the Tri cities of Gdansk Sopot, and Gydnia, in poland as reserve blond pussies.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]
In my nightly excursions, I have never seen a single soldier out and about.
conscripted soldiers are very drunk idiots.
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Not in K-grad, but in 'other' province cities, possibly because I seem to always be there during Easter or May Day holidays, I ALWAYS see sailors and soldiers out and about.
In Ukraine, army guys in uniforms, going around in the daytime. No concerns at all. I see them around the medical and technical institutes. They act normal.
In Russia, sailors in the afternoons wearing their uniform on Sundays and holidays, but very seriously drunk. Walking around the main square, and singing. I stay far away.
Don't recall seeing any later at night, they must be back in barracks.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank].. shit-dressed, giggling, drunk, ass-grabbing, zero-perspective idiots.[/QUOTE]
In a word, gopniks !! :)
By the way, I found that "gopnitsa" could be a nice and appreciated term of endearment when it was wittingly used. My current russian GF, a cosmopolitan Muscovite, loves it !!
I will soon travel to Perm and work there for about 1 year. Anyone who have some good advises? I have looked at dosug. CZ and found some pro. Also in mamba. Ru there are some.
But they all want the same money as in Moskau or St. Petersburg. I don't find that resonable in a town like Perm, so any advises will be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Nickc]Vladivostok[/QUOTE]
BTW thanks a lot Nickc for the excellent infos about Vladivostok. How no one cared to thank you publicly before now is beyond me.
It gives a great overview of all one needs to know to travel there. Thanks again for the good work and for sharing.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]There's nothing special in your Private Message of any concern or interest that would surprise or influence any reader here or anywhere else[/QUOTE]
I disagree. A large and rather inexpensive girl-friendly hotel with seaview rooms, located in a untapped Eldorado, and hosting a good and humanly priced strip club in the basement, two saunas with available girls and a good cocktail bar equally stuffed with WGs, is GREAT info for the monger (especially when the said girls and strippers are russian, which means a significative proportion of leggy 8s and more in the lot).
In fact after reading Nickc's post and exchanging a few PMs with him, I've put Vladivostok at the Top of my "to-do" list in Russia. My plan if (hmmm, when) I'll go there is to stay in this hotel two/three weeks (and take advantage of the P4P options in-between dates and meetings with freebies), before venturing to Khabarosk or Petropavlovk-Kamchatskij (pop 200 000 and second largest city in the world that cannot be reached by road, which means tons of horny bored dyevs jumping on any opportunity to fuck a decent-looking, heavy drinking and profligate foreigner :)).
Found a Paris/Vladivostok Aeroflot flight at 650€ round-trip ticket BTW (no stopover possibility in Moscow though), which is a great price.
Hopefully it's gonna be for this summer.
[QUOTE=Prosal]....before venturing to Khabarosk or Petropavlovk-Kamchatskij (pop 200 000 and second largest city in the world that cannot be reached by road, which means tons of horny bored dyevs jumping on any opportunity to fuck a decent-looking, heavy drinking and profligate foreigner :)).....[/QUOTE]
I am pretty sure no mongers there Prosal, I agree tons of girls horny and bored too that never saw 1 tourist, but I think despite sex and sex, you will risk to get bored too, at least me that I could care less about wild nature, vulcanoes and geyser :D
However can be the kind of travel....almost nobody did, surely an EXPERIENCE of life.
The "problem" there is fucking cold even in "summer" and imho I think Murmansk offers more or less the same, city in the middle of nowhere with no monger at all, but much closer to where we live.
I thanks Nickc too for his report about Vladivostok !
Actually the good thing, very good, about the disappointment of my last 3 weeks in Rio is that I am really hungry about great looking girls, read russian ones, so I will start to consider again to go back to motherland, I already start to learn again russian :D
Here useful link for some infos about Kamchatka:
[url]http://www.waytorussia.net/FarEast/Kamchatka/index.html[/url]
[url]www.kamchatka.org.ru[/url]
P.S. I just take a look on mail.ru and most girls have only 1 single photo, it looks a bit strange to me, any idea why ?
Luka, why are you chasing the shimmers of mirrors? Travelling is expensive and it must worth.
If you have got enough sure female contacts for sex, ok the risk is worth the travel, otherwise it will be logically another waste of money.
For men who actually know female mindset, females are always ready to ask foreigners for money. And for what? Which anything do females promise you, they are always ready to change idea in five minutes.
Everything is going well, when I have started to think in a "female" way: there are no feelings or memories, there is just a neverending negotiation. All the rest is a matter for "sfigati".
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I am pretty sure no mongers there Prosal, I agree tons of girls horny and bored too that never saw 1 tourist, but I think despite sex and sex, you will risk to get bored too, at least me that I could care less about wild nature, vulcanoes and geyser :D
However can be the kind of travel....almost nobody did, surely an EXPERIENCE of life.
The "problem" there is fucking cold even in "summer" and imho I think Murmansk offers more or less the same, city in the middle of nowhere with no monger at all, but much closer to where we live.
I thanks Nickc too for his report about Vladivostok !
Actually the good thing, very good, about the disappointment of my last 3 weeks in Rio is that I am really hungry about great looking girls, read russian ones, so I will start to consider again to go back to motherland, I already start to learn again russian :D
Here useful link for some infos about Kamchatka:
[url]http://www.waytorussia.net/FarEast/Kamchatka/index.html[/url]
[url]www.kamchatka.org.ru[/url]
P.S. I just take a look on mail.ru and most girls have only 1 single photo, it looks a bit strange to me, any idea why ?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I am pretty sure no mongers there Prosal, I agree tons of girls horny and bored too that never saw 1 tourist, but I think despite sex and sex, you will risk to get bored too
Actually the good thing, very good, about the disappointment of my last 3 weeks in Rio is that I am really hungry about great looking girls, read russian ones[/QUOTE]
Agree that one can live moments of immense boredom and solitude when travelling in deep FSU.
Nonetheless I still prefer a place like Tashkent over any place in Brasil, especially a nasty prostitution Mecca such as Rio !!
;)
I have visited Petropavlovsk Kamchatski 17 times.
Going there just for mongering is waste of time.
Lots of mongers there from Japan and Alaska.
Local men outnumber women in great numbers.
Place can be rather expensive for foreigner, "japanese" prices, since most foreigners there are coming from Japan.
Not to mention that knowledge of russian language is very needed.
Unless you want to pet bears in the wilderness Kamchatka is place to avoid.
For mongering better stay where you know the game. Proposal - Tashkent for you.
Lukasek Murmansk is also not a good place. Full of norwegian mongers who come there for cheap sex, vodka and cigars. This things in Murmansk are much cheaper then in Norway. Also Russia and Norway have agreement about easy visa issue, especially for people living close to the border. Most norwegian mongers in Murmansk are from cities of Trondheim and Hammerfest.
Kurenda, thanks for your answer.
I have more than something to think about right now, cause despite I speak quite good russian, there are too many negative points about PK.
About Murmansk, I am not much afraid about norwegian mongers, as they probably speak zero russian, maybe they overpay hookers, but speaking russian I can have access with help of taxi driver to private apts where probably norwegian will never go.
However is there are mongers, there are surely even one or more pick up bar or disco, something obviously I was not able to find in Ufa and Samara as no mongers or turists go there, at least I saw nobody...
Murmansk was one of the city I had plan to visit last year during my 2 months in Russia cause it impressed me positevely about the number and the good answers from the girls I contacted in mail.ru.
Kurenda, have you ever been to Murmansk ? Cause very little or no infos about this not ordinary city.
Been to Murmansk several times.
Pay attention Murmansk is russian northern port. When there's a port, there's a lots of sailors and lots of pros who offer their services.
Murmansk was the first soviet city where open prostitution appeared.
During WWII many ships from USA and Canada arrived to Murmansk bringing military aid to SSSR. Many local females offered their sex services to sailors after long time at sea. This was tolerated during war but in 1945 about
20 000 women from Murmansk were arrested for "immorality" and resettled to Siberia.
From mongering side Murmansk is much better than Samara for sure. Samara never see any foreigners besides poor students from Third world countries and some Peace corps volunteers from USA. They are without money anyway.
On the other hand Murmansk is port where many foreign ships arrive and foreigners are usual sight there. Also many people in Samara are of Mordvin origin while in Murmansk there are many Karels and they have different mentality. Also night time options in Murmansk are quite good. During long winter days with not much day light there's not much to do exept go out and find some fun what ever it is.
Murmansk is interesting to see but...
It's far away from Moscow, StP or Nizhny Novgorod are much closer.
Murmansk is typical soviet run down place, compared to Moscow is shit hole of course so don't expect much.
Murmansk area is very polluted. During soviet times it was huge military area and russian army left and dump there all kinds of chemical stuff.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]
Samara never see any foreigners, besides poor students from Third world countries without money.
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This is EXACTLY the reason why Samara's ladies need to meet Bez.
No, no! Not for me, for them of course! SOMEBODY needs to provide for them. Those poor lasses deserve a better life, and they should have some fun too. I would be proud to support them.
Prosulk, Luke, please guys, head north to frozen Murmansk, and leave the springtime Mordvins all to me. :D
Professor K, could you please do a comparison for mongering between Rostov and Volgograd, and between Ekaterinberg and Novosibirsk, including any local ethnic influences on sexuality.
Spasibo escio raz Kurenda.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]
Pay attention Murmansk is russian northern port. When there's a port, there's a lots of sailors and lots of pros who offer their services.[/QUOTE]
Why to pay attention ? I take it as positive the big number or pros as second option if the contacts do not work and also I noticed that in every city where there are many pros, the regular ones seem a bit easier to date...imho.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]
On the other hand Murmansk is port where many foreign ships arrive and foreigners are usual sight there.[/QUOTE]
Maybe as a port, I am thinking about my experience in Odessa right now, the girls are a bit more smart for the high number of men arrive and leave ?
[QUOTE=Kurenda]...
It's far away from Moscow, StP or Nizhny Novgorod are much closer.
Murmansk is typical soviet run down place, compared to Moscow is shit hole of course so don't expect much.
...[/QUOTE]
I was in Piter twice, never been to NN, but Murmansk seems to me more wild, strange city as it is the biggest one closer to North Pole.
I agree probably a shithole, even if I am sure much better than Samara...and for sure everything should be much cheaper than in Moscow with the same kind of devushki :D
[QUOTE=Kurenda]...
Murmansk area is very polluted. During soviet times it was huge military area and russian army left and dump there all kinds of chemical stuff.[/QUOTE]
This I like a bit less, but maybe for a week or two, not a big deal, even if obviously I will never live there.
I will think however here [url]www.murman.ru[/url] there are many pictures of the city, the nature seems wild and very nice, especially sunrise....the znakomstva redirect you to mamba.ru
Several years back i ended up in Arkhangelsk for 6 days. It was good, i'll write a report on it soon. Sometimes i really don't know how i end up in such obscure places, but for me thats apart of the adventure of the unknown.
Its quite a thrill sometimes. Cheers Nickc
Spending soon one full week in Nizhny Tagil. Any suggestions about the place? It's 4 hours flight from Moskow, 150 km far from Ekaterinburg.
Thanks
Hi to everybody, I'll be in Krasnodar for a fair mid April. It seams that Krasnodar is quite calm. But I hope somebady can give me some advise where to go to find P4P or any other option available.
Thank you in advance, waiting for some suggestion!
Alex968:
Nizhny Tagil have been mentioned here on the forum. It's not very nice place
so the best is to avoid it.
Zacchio:
Krasnodar is quite calm here in the forum because 99% of posters have never been there. But Krasnodar is not calm at all. P4P is fully available of course. Plenty of pros to choose from. Besides local girls, plenty of imports from Ukraine, Georgia and Armenia. Also whole bunch of Chechen, Dagestani and other Kavkaz pros.
Action is concentrated in the wider city center you don't have to dig much. Maybe the language will be the problem. Ask about a bar owned by certain Frenchman who rides a motorcycle. He's well know there and at his place you can get help and advice. If he's still there. In Krasnodar watch your back. Lots of Chechen mob there fighting each other, street shootings are very often and bombings also. Not that you will be the target but you don't want to be in the building if someone decide to blow it up.
[QUOTE=Kurenda] Ask about a bar owned by certain Frenchman who rides a motorcycle. He's well know there and at his place you can get help and advice.[/QUOTE]
Bar is Havanna Cafe. Owner is a friend of mine, former airline (french company) pilot. Yeah, he rides a H.Davidson that he imported from Paris to Russia two years ago.
Gotta visit him someday indeed. He is dithyrambic when he talks about Krasnodar.
Your post is appealing. I truly love Caucasus dyevs. I didn't know there was Chechen and Caucasus mobsters turf wars in Krasnodar, but I don't think it's a worry for the monger.
BTW, on a cultural note, and talking about Chechnya, Jonathan Littel's new novel "Chechnya, Year III" is really worth a read.
[url]http://www.waynakh.com/eng/2009/12/jonathan-lithell-this-is-the-kadirovs-chechnya/[/url]
Proposal thanks for reminder. It's "Havanna Cafe" I knew it was something Carribbean in the name. Frenchman is the pilot for sure, locals call him летчик which means pilot in russian of course. Hope the bar still works, don't have the info about that.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]Hope the bar still works, don't have the info about that.[/QUOTE]
It's been a time I didn't talk to my friend, but I know from another source (mamba contact) that the bar is running and rather popular among Krasnodar party-goers.
[QUOTE=Prosal]It's been a time I didn't talked to him, but I know from another source (mamba contact) that the bar is still running and rather popular among Krasnodar party-goers.[/QUOTE]Ok, I'll go and I'll tell you. If nobody kill me during my stay!
LOL!
BTW I'm an Italian HD proud owner, of course.
I hate French man, but our common passion for bikes and babies could help us!
Thanks to all
[QUOTE=Zacchio]I hate French man[/QUOTE]
And are you proud of publicly bragging that you "hate french" in an international forum where - some - french contribute ?
Your "participation" here is just 10 posts of silly, rambling, painful-reading and semi-coherent questions, so no need to brag.
[QUOTE=Prosal]And is there something in this silly and ridiculous bragging to be proud of, for publicly stating it an international forum where french participate?
With 10 posts of painful-reading and semi-incoherent questions or of raving nonsense, you should keep your tone on the downlow.[/QUOTE]Hey man,
I didn't want to be unpolite,
Here in Europe is well know that between us cousins (Italians and French) there is a relationship of love and hate, but is a common joke to say that we "hate" each others.
That was exatly the meaning of my sentense.
BTW,
You are answering to me exactly like a French guy suppose to do,
But I want to repet, was not my intention to offend anybody
And is clear enough from my message, that I want to meet this guy and his HD!
Peace and love!
Dear Zacchio
please do go to Nizhny Tagil and Krasnodar.
Cheers Nickc
[QUOTE=Prosal]And are you proud of publicly bragging that you "hate french" in an international forum where. Some. French contribute?
Your "participation" here is just 10 posts of silly, rambling, painful-reading and semi-coherent questions, so need to brag.[/QUOTE]Was not my intention to be unpolite.
Here in Europe is a common joke between cousin (Italian and French) to "hate" each other, but is a joke!
Think about: wine, cheeses, generally food and cousine, football, woman. And so on.
I was supposing that my meaning was pretty clear (for a Franch guy too! LOL!)
Unfortunally I don't handle English lenguage wery well and that can create missunderstanding.
I'll visit the guy, and we will drink a rhon tgeather, remember we both are bikers, and tham means a lot!
I understand.
Below is very funny article.
[url]http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/national/3471944/Banker-blew-3-4m-on-prostitutes[/url]
[QUOTE=Nickc]I understand.
Below is very funny article.
[url]http://www.Stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/national/3471944/Banker-blew-3-4m-on-prostitutes[/url][/QUOTE]Not easy!
A big effort. I would like to get
Same opportunuty
[url]http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/national/3471944/Banker-blew-3-4m-on-prostitutes[/url]
I just can't understand how he spent $3.4 million on hookers. Apparently he was also flying them in from around the world to New Zealand.
[QUOTE=Latexian2]However, if you want to try something more adventurous I would recommend the old cities in european russia (Smolensk, Oryol, Voronezh, Bryansk, Pskov, etc.). These are all relatively close to Moscow (5-10 hours by train) and tend to be pretty impoverished compared to the Volga/Urals region which means things are slightly cheaper and girls somewhat lower class (good for quick scoring). But most importantly they tend to be more compact and interesting from an architectural and historical point of view so even if you are waking up at 2pm every day after boozing/partying/fucking all night you can still spend an enjoyable afternoon at a few museums or just strolling (gulyating).[/QUOTE]
Just bumped into your post. Interesting indeed. A city with pleasant areas to stroll around is definitely a plus.
Thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]But last year I travelled by train from Moscow to Irkutsk[/QUOTE]
How would you rate Chelyabinsk, Kurenda ?
I know that provincial Russian cities are pretty much all the same, but Chelyabinsk seems to me rather interesting, off the beaten tracks (out of the Trans-Siberian route) and also definitely not as "wealthy" and cosmopolitan (and consequently expensive and filled with Oil & Gas expats) as the other Ural big cities like Ekaterinburg, Ufa or Tyumen.
Also got an exceptionnal answers ratio from Chelyabinsk women on dating site (some knock-out beauties). And seems they don't see much foreigners.
[QUOTE=Latexian2][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Russian_subdivisions_GRP_per_capita.svg[/url]
Note that is GDP per capita and not average salary, so take that with a grain of salt. Still, I think it highly correlates to salary. Basically it's what you expect, Moscow and Petersburg along with oil-rich Eastern Siberia have the highest GDP per capita. The Volga region does well also. But the "black earth" belt is pretty far down the totem pole, and has lots of medium sized cities which are perfect for the monger. Big enough to be interesting during down time and to be able to date multiple girls with no issues, but small enough to be cheap so you can be the big fish.[/QUOTE]
Just bumped into Latexian's great analysis.
What about the costs (accommodation, dining out, partying, ect) in the "poorer" European Russia areas?..are they significantly lower than in wealthy Siberia, Volga or Ural regions ?
Hi all,
I will be in E'Burg next week stayuing at the Zizavi.
Does someone know if the hotel is GF?
Dear friends, I will go to Ivanovo very soon but I can not find anything in internet about our hobby in this city. Do you have some info about hotel/call girls and/or special massage salon etc? Thank you in advance for your help
Anybody has some hints/tips for Novosibirsk?
Tia. Ziggy
Anybody have any experiences (recent or not) in the Russian Far East - Vladivostok or Khabarovsk areas? I know that very little English is spoken in those parts, but otherwise how is the infrastructure for travellers?
I've met some beautiful women over the years who are from the region so I figured I'd go directly to the source. Would appreciate any info related to the area.
After travelling to Nizhny Novgorod (NN) regularly for a few years now, I thought I’d share a few tips on this charming city.
Introduction
Let me say, right from the start, that NN is a great monger place. Through extensive trial and error, I’ve had plenty of success there (and some failures, but that comes with the territory). It is full of vibrant university types, most keen to practise their English with a foreigner, particularly from my part of the world. There are some good bars, places to go and a good atmosphere, summer or winter.
Orientation
The city can be divided into two areas, due to its position on the confluence of the Oka and Volga Rivers. There is the area where the train station is located, an area predominately occupied by factories ; and the “upper city”, where the Kremlin, the main shopping area, the university and the many institutes are located.
I never went to the factory areas, and except to catch the train, never went to the area where the train station is. I concentrated on the upper area, because there was no real need to go anywhere else!
The main street is Pokrovskaya street, a pedestrian street about a mile long. Here, on a nice summer evening you can just sit back with a beer and admire the splendour of the dyevushka in all of her glory. On a winter’s day, they are just as fetching (albeit with a few more clothes on). Here you can try the lost tourist, or the photographic adventurer, or just the generous foreigner. You may land a nice catch by using any of these disguises, at least someone to have a drink with!
There are some nice restaurants and bars along this street and in the streets around.
Pokrovskaya street links the Kremlin area with Gorky Square, an important transportation hub and an easy reference point for the city centre.
Where to Stay
I only ever stayed at two hotels – the Oka Hotel on Gagarina avenue and the Oktyabrskaya on 9A Verkhnevolzhskaya, and even then, I only stayed two nights at the Oktyabrskaya. As far as I know (and I picked up a WG at the bar), the Oktyabrskaya is girl friendly.
The Oka is a nice business standard hotel, with the renovated rooms on the 7th floor. Rooms 701-704 have two rooms – a bedroom and a living room. 704 is my favourite...the scene of many delights!
The hotel is very girl friendly. Within 10 minutes of checking in, you’ll receive a phone call offering a girl – I never took up the caller on this offer as I preferred to choose my own. You can do this by going to the cafe on the 5th floor after 10pm and waiting for the hotel girls to come in. They vary greatly in looks and performance, but generally they are a nice group and I’ve got to know most of them over the years. The cost is 2500 RUR an hour, and I’ve never been ripped off by one of them. They’ll perform together (some more into girls than others) and I’ve had up to four at once with no problems. Sometimes you’ll run into them in the lift or in the lobby, and unless they’ve just been called up for duty, they’ll be available.
If you bring a girl in, and you have a double room, they’ll just register the girl to the room, give her a few breakfast tickets and away you go. If you bring a third girl, they’ll charge 650 RUR for the extra guest. Despite there being some very nice girls at the check-in counter, they’ve never batted an eyelid at anyone I’ve brought back. (Not sure what happens if you have a single room, as I’ve never had one).
The hotel has three bars attached to it, as well as the Cafes on the 2nd and 5th Floors. The first bar is just off the lobby and is usually pretty quiet, but good for a meal or a beer or watching who is coming and going but no girls.
The second is a sports bar/bowling alley basically underneath the hotel. A nice bar and you often get some pretty girls playing bowls there, but I’ve never seen any WG. I’ve taken my sponsorette’s there for a meal and bowling and they like it.
The next bar is the Club Motor. This is one of the diviest bars I’ve ever been in to, but for some reason, I liked it. Generally on a week night, it is pretty quiet but you may occasionally find a table of studentka there celebrating something, or some lonely girls just out on the town. It is dark & dingy, but a real experience. On Thursdays they sometimes have strippers, and more than once I’ve seen this turn into an amateur night. Fridays they often have bands and this is when the club really fills up. Plenty of dyevs, and all very happy to chat. A few phone numbers and even a freebie once, and a good time to be had.
I also got to know a few of the bar guys, the manager and a young guy who sings karaoke. They are all happy to help and call a “friend” if you are in need. In my early days, if I wanted a change from the hotel girls, I’d use their services.
Around the back of the hotel is a sauna, and it has two areas that you can rent by the hour. I think it cost 1500 RUR an hour (or maybe that was two – my minimum stay). There’s a change room, a room with a table and chair, one with a bed and of course showers, a pool and a sauna itself. I’ve used these quite often, and are good value if you don’t want to take the girls back to your room. The girls also seem to like them.
Stripclubs & Bars
Regular Clubs & Bars
There are two bars to go to according to my girls. They are Rocco and Z-Top. I haven’t been to Rocco much. When I did go there, I recall it was a part of a large complex that may have also included a strip bar. Z-Top is a huge club just off Nizhny-Volzhskay Naberezhnaya. I had a few good nights there (although Face Kontrol can be strict) with plenty of dyevs on show, go-go dancers and possibilities for P4P (although do be careful offering it straight up...).
Also Matriza and Picasso get good mentions, but not really being much of a clubber, I have not been to these places.
There is a nice bar (called the Penthouse) on Mal. Pokrovskaya, just down and around the corner basically from Macdonalds. I didn’t detect any WG’s there, but the times I have been there was tables of studentka and they certainly looked approachable. I took my sponsorettes there a number of times, and with hooka & sushi available, they liked it.
Strip Clubs
As far as strip clubs are concerned, there are quite a few in the city. It seems alot of the restaurants and hotel complexes have an adjoining strip club.
Those that I am familiar with include Club 33, also on Nizhny-Volzhskay Naberezhnaya. It has the advantage of being just around the corner from Z-Top, and the girls are dressed as nurses (befitting the name of the bar). 1500 RUR to get into the VIP section, and this is worth it. Although the same girls move between the VIP and non-VIP sections, they are far more attentive in the VIP. Generally very good looking and youngish (alot of the girls are students). The usual ranges of private dances are available, and depending on the girl, there may be some touching allowed. I did ask one blonde stunner with near perfect English how much to get her back to the hotel and it was in the vicinity of 30k. I don’t know if that is usual.
Another place, and the first place I ever went was called “Strip Club” in a complex on Ill’inskaya Street. I was the only customer and so had undivided attention. I wasn’t too bad, and I had a triple girl private dance which was one of the best I’ve ever had. The girls were top-shelf, were into each other and I was allowed touching and a jerk-off, which they liked very much. I’ve since seen one of them out of the club (she was at the NN University where I visit often – I actually recognised her during a lecture I was giving...pretty funny) and I had another one from this encounter when she moved to Club Dream (more on that later).
One to avoid in my opinion is called Club Lotus or Lotus Flower (something like that anyway). It is on Pokrovskaya street, at the Kremlin end on the left as you walk down toward the Kremlin. 1500 RUR to get into the VIP section, much smaller VIP than others, lower quality girls and a lack lustre feel to the place. Only redeeming feature is that it is easy to find.
A small club close to the Oka Hotel on Gagarina avenue is called Dreams or Club Dream. It is part of a small casino complex. To get there, leave the Oka, head right up the street to a perehod. Cross the street, emerge from the perehod and head right. Walk down the street about 100m and it is on the left. There is usually an expensive car on show out the front, and hot girls in the windows. Go in, head left and through a door into a casino. On the right you’ll see a white door – go through (you may have to pay – I had a VIP pass and didn’t have to) and you’ll be in the strip bar section. A bar at one end, two private booths at the other end and a dancing area in the middle. Usually 4-6 girls rotating through and all very attractive (they’ll also all tell you they are students.) Prices for private dances etc are pretty reasonable (around 600 RUR-1500 RUR), and the girls will usually spend more time sitting with you than usual (it is very rarely crowded) in the main section.
There is a hotel attached to the club that offers a room on hourly rates. You negotiate with the girl and she organises the room. I think it’s about 2800 RUR an hour for the room and then the girls are negotiable. I’ve had two from there (a combination of alcohol, attractive young women and erotic dancing loosens the wallet) and one was 6500 and the other 8500 (tsk tsk...) for 2 hours...but they were stunning!
There are plenty of other strip bars/clubs in the city, but I haven’t been out all that much recently.
Places to Eat
I won’t go too much into this, but places where you might like to take a dyev include the aforementioned Penthouse (look for the sign with the Black cat on it).
There’s a sushi bar at the top end of Pokrovskaya street (on the right as you walk down). I was in there once (a Saturday afternoon), and of the 22 seats available in the non-smoking section, 21 were taken by women under 30! I was amazed.
Another interesting place is “English Embassy”, for nice waitresses (very short skirts), most of whom speak English, and English beers on tap. It is located at Zvezdinka Street , just off Pokrovskaya street, one block. Similar to the John Bull chain in Moscow.
Also on Pokrovskaya street is a nice Czech restaurant with some of the nicest (and coldest) beer in Russia. Also hot waitresses and live music makes this a nice chill out place. The dyevs usually like the sausages here too! It’s on Pokrovskaya Street, about half way down on the left.
There’s a good shashlik place, also on the right of Pokrovskaya street as you head toward the Kremlin, at the top end.
Other Resources
The Internet
I had alot of success on the internet. I met with around a dozen or so girls, some who were advertising “sex for money” and others who may have been looking for sponsorship or “friendship & chat” that meant “sex for money”.
Some were short term (there are a few apartment/salons along Maxsim Gorky Street off Gorky Square) and then there were the long term sponsorships. I used Rambler, which shares the database of a number of sites (Mamba at least being one of them). Of course, using the net is always a hit or miss affair, but perseverance and a keen eye eventually paid off.
NN University
I had the opportunity of working here a number of times and it is well worth a visit just to walk the grounds, particularly in summer. Have a seat and watch the awesome parade! There isn’t a bar as such on the grounds, but there is one across the road that changes its name almost weekly. Sometimes it is open and sometimes not. The university is on Gagarina avenue just down from the Oka hotel. There are many studentka here who need help with their fees...
Conclusion
If you get a chance to go to NN, take it. The train ride from Moscow is relaxing (five hours or so, enough time for a few beers and to get relaxed). The girls are nice, friendly and lack the “stuck-up” nature of many Moscow based girls. They’ll generally be interested in you as they don’t see many foreigners. It’s a relatively safe place (usual precautions apply) with some very GF accommodation options.
Happy to answer any questions,
Cheers,
[QUOTE=Dogger862]Strip Clubs
As far as strip clubs, at Club 33, I did ask one blonde stunner how much to get her back to the hotel and it was in the vicinity of 30k. I don’t know if that is usual.[/QUOTE]You don't know if $1000 dollars to fuck a stripper, is usual?
Then again, she was probably so hot, that the brain simply isn't capable of bargaining.
Bez,
What I meant was usual for that club, ie if you went there and asked one of the girls to leave with you, if the quoted rate is their standard response, if it was this particular girl, or me, or what they may be negotiated down to...
...although I was tempted!!
Cheers,
[QUOTE=Dogger862]Dogger's Guide to Nizhny Novgorod [/QUOTE]How no one (except Bez with his usual quibbling) thought about congratulating you for this very informative, added-value and elaborate post is beyond me.
Thanks for this great overview of N.N.
[QUOTE=Dogger862]Where to Stay
I only ever stayed at two hotels – the Oka Hotel on Gagarina avenue and the Oktyabrskaya on 9A Verkhnevolzhskaya, and even then, I only stayed two nights at the Oktyabrskaya. As far as I know (and I picked up a WG at the bar), the Oktyabrskaya is girl friendly.
The Oka is a nice business standard hotel, with the renovated rooms on the 7th floor. Rooms 701-704 have two rooms – a bedroom and a living room. 704 is my favourite...the scene of many delights![/QUOTE]Could you say what kind of rate you got at those two hotels?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Prosal]Could you say what kind of rate you got at those two hotels?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
At the Oka it was around 4800 RUR and the Oktyabrskaya 6000 RUR. I stayed many times at the Oka so we received a special rate, I think the advertised rate is 5500+.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Dogger862]At the Oka it was around 4800 RUR and the Oktyabrskaya 6000 RUR. I stayed many times at the Oka so we received a special rate, I think the advertised rate is 5500+[/QUOTE]Thanks Dogger,
It's unfortunatly fucking expensive. Accommodation is what keeps me away from provincial Russia. NO WAY I going to pay 130€ for a 3/4 stars Soviet hotel when one can get the Shangri-La Bangkok or the Grand Hyatt Jakarta for the same price (not that I have any desire to go to SEA this winter, just to say). Of course, apartments are the best way to go in this EE and FSU, but booking an apartment for two weeks in a place where you don't know in advance if you'll not going to be bored silly during weekdays is risky.
Fucking dilemma. I decided to take loooong vacations somewhere in FSU (and to leave Uzbek dyevs for a while) from Nov 5 till January 9 and I'm fucking procrastinating. Accommodation budget is at most 50€/day. Luka, any thoughts?. Could Minsk be the best alternative?. What was your experience with weekays nightlife in Ufa and Samara?
[QUOTE=Prosal]... Luka, any thoughts ? ...[/QUOTE]
I really have no idea where I could start.....well, it can be a long post right ?
Let's start....
Last tuesday I was driving my car back home from Germany, it was about midnight, full moon, no clouds, 2 friends with me were sleeping, I spent 3 nice days in FKK, very good for what you paid.... but looking at the moon do you guess what I thought about ?
Right !
The best holiday of my whole life !
2 months in Russia provincies !
We spoke about one month ago Prosal, you told me how is it possible I have no more interest to go there again.... well in FKK I found great GFE with top notch girls at reasonable price and I got a bit lazy to travel, but it was enough to find a girl in Colosseum FKK from Tver and to speak in russian with her making not only her, but also my 2 friends, surprised for my russian knowledge to make me homesick for Russia.....
Well my little brother is happy I go so often to FKK but my heart in FKK feels almost nothing !
100 times in FKK does not change you as person, 1 time all alone to provincial russia makes you better person, wiser and gives you tons of unforgettable memories.....I could almost write a book....
So it seems exactly after 2 years I went there, you took the decision to do the same trip....
In a friendly way, but I envy you....
It will be not easy, but you will never forget it....and you will thank me to encourage you to go there ;)
You are experienced monger, I do not think it will be much harder than in Tashkent, but in TSK you stayed 2 months, changing every 1-2 weeks city, it will make you tired, cause everytime you have to find the places to go, even before the accomodation at reasonable prices....in a land where even at 4 stars hotel probably they will speak nothing more than russian....
You choose the faster and stronger way to improve your russian.....
But remember one thing, I never feel unsafe there ! ( at the contrary as I felt in Rio....even if I was often with some mongers... )
The first suggest I can give you, even if it sounds obvious, is to travel light. I travelled with 2 medium size suitcases and laptop. 1 suitcase and laptop is more than enough for me now !
Second.... best plan, none plan !
Be ready to change your plans in every moment.... cause maybe you will be at the last day in one city and in that night you will find the "right" girl.... so stay there please !!!!!
Do not change the city !
But move if you will see in one city there is nothing for you !
Third... follow your instinct ! Do not get drunk, for example, you will be probably at 99% of time the only one foreigner out there....
Smile at entrance of discos-clubs... face control sucks sometimes, but in a land where there is no tourist even a very very small tip to the security steroids man, opens every door !!!!
Full your laptop of movies and take some books, it seems maybe ironic, but I am serious, you will have much time without know what the fuck to do !
Do not procrastinate again or you probably will never go there....
Buy lonely planet guide, very very helpful !!!!
Weekdays are boring in almost every city I went !
No matter where you are, on friday and saturday in every places, from the little shitty bar next door your hotel to the best disco in the city, full of girls.... the other days you will be the only one out in the night.....you have to be good and smart to collect many phone numbers in the only 2 days of the week when half city go out to party and be aware that probably the other days girls will stay home even if you offer to pay them dinner and entrance to disco....
Ufa or Samara ? Very easy question !
Samara suuuuuuucks !
There were many villages that grew up and become one city that was called Samara, so there is not one center ! Or well it is, but it is only one 300 metrs street ! Remember in Samara I needed one hour from my apartment to go to center by taxi during rush hour.... the best clubs are one far from the other... you will write sms to meet with one girl and she will tell you she lives too far from center to come to meet you....it happened to me many times in Samara....too little streets, too many cars, too complicated !
Ufa ?
Well go there bro !
Capital of Baškortostan.... the girls look like different from other cities in Russia, think.... I love blond, I fall in love there for a dark hair.... the population there is a big mix from russia, tartars, baskiria.... the girls are gorgeous !!!!
Jet club on friday and saturday had the best girls I saw in my whole life and I was the only ONE foreigner there for 14 days.... before me I am sure the other foreigner was Jake993 :D LOL
Jet club is 3 floors building, with wonderful restaurant with free wifi, good sushi there, second floor disco, third floor bowling.
I stayed 50 metrs from Jet club at Yuldash hotel, small hotel, very good price, ( something at 40 euro per day with breakfast ), new rooms with net and I took there at no extra charge tons of hookers LOL. ( some nights when I went to sleep alone, the old woman at reception asked me.... no girl tonight ? :)
There is another huge club far about 10 minutes of taxi from Jet club, then Tinkoff bar and almost nothing more !
But every taxi is more than happy to call you another car who will bring you 20-24 yo pros for something as, 2 years ago, 1500 rubles, I am pretty sure the price is almost the same right now.
Thinking of Ufa.... made me almost my eyes wet..... I'd go there tomorrow !!!!
Oh.. if you can, go with a buddy or try to find there, it will be hard, another monger.... I am pretty sure, if I was not all alone everyday I could enjoy much more the moments I did not know what to do....even if probably is the fact to be all alone so many thousands km far from your home city that makes every night with a girl so.... unforgettable !
Obviously...use sauna as place to take a rest and to order pros.
Something really amazing is when you get a pros, no matter if from sauna, from taxi driver, she will get shocked when you will tell her you are not russian..... they did not believe I am from west europe ! So many times I had to show them my passport, not to militsia but to the girls !!!
To meet the second day the pros you got the night before is quite easy and for free !
DO IT !
And do not be shy or afraid to order pros to taxi driver and believe me, he will bring you pros that looks like very nice, totally normal girls with normal job that need some money more !
Behave good with them and you will never want to go back home.....NEVER !
I found not useful for me mamba, I went there with 42 phone numbers and I met maybe 10 girls....but try it, you can meet even a not nice girl, who cares, she will be surely so friendly and more than happy to show you the city, during the day, and most important, the places to go during the night ;)
Take with you much cash, I had 8 banknotes of 500 euro each, cause in the fucking Samara 1 bankomat and 3 credit cards did not work !!! Then immediately out of Samara they worked again all 4 ! ( the explanation of the girl at unicredit bank was that the microchip of my cards was not read from the old ATM they had ! I tried many different banks ).
However even when it works, I was not able to get much cash per day, so if I will go again, I will bring even more cash, cause you can change everywhere euro but not every ATM will give you rubles and when it does, you pay high % commission.
I do not hide you Prosal that accomodation sucks out of Moscow and Piter !!!
Almost not web page of renting flat, the choose is between 5 stars fucking expensive hotel or 1 star shitty hotel !
However book from net 1-2 day at the cheapest hotel you find in the net and once there first thing to do after put the suitcase in your bedroom go to find a better accomodation and........ please negotiate and negotiate !!!!
If they tell you 2000 rubles per day, say ok, but 10 days at 1000 rubles per day, they will smile, leave and in most cases they will call you back and you will close the deal for 1500 per day ! It worked for me...
If I will go there again, I will choose 5 cities almost random, I will contact in mamba girls from these cities to have at least 10 phone numbers of girls per city, but I will be ready to move to another city asap I will get boring or I will not like one !
Be patient... take it all easy, very easy ! (that's the best suggest ! )
You will be where almost none tourist was.... you will be something totally new there for everybody... it means you can try to date almost every girl from the one at the bar where you get a coffee from the one at post office where you will probably find the only one internet point in the city ( read shitty Samara... ).
I cannot suggest one city, Kurenda in this is much better than me, but one city I want to see is yekaterinburg, more than ones told me that the night life is very good, but I have no experience about it !
Forget Tashkent for a while, there it is already as a second home for you.
Do not worry, hard from internet but out there it is not impossible to find 50 euro per day accomodation !
Minsk ? You can go to Minsk when you will be 80yo !
Well what I could say more dear Prosal ?
That writing all this, made me so much want to go there again !!!!!!!!
I cannot now, ( I know you are gonna to ask me to join you ;) ) I have to work, I spent 2 months this summer at home with broken clavicle, but it is decided, I will go again in provincies !
Not cause it is cheap, but cause ONLY out there you will have the chance to LIVE the kind of GFE that a russian girl who never saw a foreigner can give you !
And that's indeed a VERY good reason to go there !
Believe me !
Thanks for reading me
[QUOTE=Lukasek]The best holiday of my whole life !
2 months in Russia provincies ![/QUOTE]Thanks Luka for your refreshing enthousiasm, I appreciate, really. Makes me pondering to the old adage "who dares win", something any monger should keep in mind instead of procrastinating about "pioneer" untapped destinations. Furthermore, a bit of internet search made me realize that the accommodation problem isn't that bad, as there is in fact plenty of sites for apartment rentals. Found notably those ones about Ufa and N.N (this site seems really useful for accomodation in Ural and Volga cities):
[url]http://www.nasutki.com/sity/ufa/spisok.php[/url]
[url]http://www.nasutki.com/sity/nn/spisok.php[/url]
Anyway I gonna decide myself in the next two/three weeks, so after that, I'll surely have more "practical" questions to ask you.
Spasibo.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]
Ufa or Samara ? Very easy question !
Samara suuuuuuucks !
There were many villages that grew up and become one city that was called Samara, so there is not one center ! Or well it is, but it is only one 300 metrs street ! Remember in Samara I needed one hour from my apartment to go to center by taxi during rush hour.... the best clubs are one far from the other... you will write sms to meet with one girl and she will tell you she lives too far from center to come to meet you....it happened to me many times in Samara....too little streets, too many cars, too complicated !
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I've spent a lot of time in Samara and while the above is true, it's still an okay city for freebies and for mongering (ask any taxi driver). The only two clubs during the week that work are Polyot (DON'T GO HERE -- Gopnik club) and Metelitsa (definitely the best option, and good on the weekends too). Neither one of those is walking distance from the old town center. Samara is very spread out and traffic during the day is terrible. But at night taxis are everywhere and cheap (200 rubles max).
During the summer the embankment is amazing, during the day the beach scene is great (even some topless Russian beauties sunbathing) and there are lots of stunning women and parties going on in the outdoor cafes until morning (although the sun comes out around 2:30am, which kills the party atmosphere, so best to go to a club around 1:00am).
Avoid the strip clubs in samara. There are three or four, but all of them are overpriced even compared to Moscow (e.g. 15.000 RUR for an hour private dance). Actually in general strip clubs in Russia are pretty terrible outside of Moscow and Piter in my experience.
On the weekends there are tons of good clubs, but just a few are Zvezda, Skvoznyak, SexOn, Longbar (all next to each other) as well as Lust and Teatro (closer to downtown). Longbar is the only club I saw that had pros and semipros working (it's also the most upscale/elite club in the city and the only one that regularly has foreigners). You can also get streetwalkers on Gagarinskaya ulitsa after evening. See here for more information on concerts and clubs:
[url]http://www.samara-night.ru/party/[/url]
As in any provincial Russian city your best bet is always renting a private apartment (find phone numbers online or in "iz ruk v ruki" newspaper).
Hotel Volga is a big Soviet style hotel, but a great location in summer on the embankment and cheap prices (as low as $20/night for a room).
Generally though I find for short-term partying/mongering/chasing tail a smaller city is better (but not too small) something like 300,000-500,000 people, like Yaroslavl or Smolensk. Those cities are big enough that there will probably be one place with decent night life even during the week, but small enough that they are compact and it's hard to get lost or waste time traveling around.
I will also say that in a big city like Samara or Ufa the "white god factor" isn't nearly what it used to be (although still better than Moscow). But the few times I've gone to some really out of the way places in Russia to towns of 50,000 or 100,000 people that no one on ISG has even heard of, I literally had girls competing to get into my pants (even had one grab my hand and take me home to her apartment before one of her friends could make a move). Another time a waitress, after hearing my accent, came and sat with me for over an hour to talk while I was a restaurant, which ended quite well later on.
But really any city is fine, the most important thing is your attitude and energy level. It's hard to force yourself to go out alone jet-lagged and tired when the hotel bed is warm and inviting. And in the bigger cities the transportation can be bad and it's hard to know where to even begin. Not to mention in these bigger Soviet-style cities (e.g. Ufa, Samara) there isn't much to do or see. So I would recommend if you're going to the provinces to do yourself a favor and stick to the smaller historic cities in European Russia: Voronezh, Vladimir, Yaroslavl, Smolensk, Oryol, Pskov, Bryansk, etc.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Thanks Dogger,
It's unfortunatly fucking expensive. Accommodation is what keeps me away from provincial Russia. NO WAY I going to pay 130€ for a 3/4 stars Soviet hotel when one can get the Shangri-La Bangkok or the Grand Hyatt Jakarta for the same price (not that I have any desire to go to SEA this winter, just to say). Of course, apartments are the best way to go in this EE and FSU, but booking an apartment for two weeks in a place where you don't know in advance if you'll not going to be bored silly during weekdays is risky.
Fucking dilemma. I decided to take loooong vacations somewhere in FSU (and to leave Uzbek dyevs for a while) from Nov 5 till January 9 and I'm fucking procrastinating. Accommodation budget is at most 50€/day. Luka, any thoughts?. Could Minsk be the best alternative?. What was your experience with weekays nightlife in Ufa and Samara?[/QUOTE]
I just saw your post Prosal. There is not much night life during the week in Samara, but during the summer the embankment is good at least until 1:00am or so. That one club, Metelitsa, has 3 floors but during the week at least the first floor is always okay (at least 20-30 girls will be there). This info is from July.
If you are at all concerned with cost I would strongly, strongly urge you to go to Ukraine instead. There are still untapped smaller cities in Ukraine where foreigners have just as much of a bonus as in provincial Russia. In fact I would say more so, since you don't see as much anti-Americanism (if you're American).
For example, the town of Romny in Sumy oblast (pop. 50,000) where I spent a few nights has only one club, but it's open 7 nights a week and is dirt cheap. I showed up every night and one night hosted a whole table of girls celebrating a birth day, the total bill was something like $70 (for champagne, chocolate, food, cocktails, etc. etc.). A hotel room there was $12 a night for a luks room (standard room was $7/night. And this was in 2009.
By comparison, in a small town of 50,000 people in Russia where I spent two nights in 2010 I had a hotel room for $30 a night and it was absolutely terrible. I mean unbelievably bad. There was only one toilet in the entire hotel and it was in one of the rooms, so you had to knock and ask permission of that guest to use the toilet.
Or compare train prices. A kupe ticket from Moscow to Samara is about 4,000 rubles ($120) for a 14 hour ride, while kupe from Kiev to Lviv is $20 (for a 10 hour ride). Beer in Samara is about 100 rubles at clubs ($3.50) but only 6 hrivnya in provincial Ukrainian clubs ($0.80). Hotels are correspondingly cheaper. Another example, the tram or bus in Samara is 15 rubles a ride ($0.50) but in Kiev the metro is only $0.25 (and in the provinces the buses are a lot less than that).
I spent a night out in a small Ukrainian town recently trying to find a good club (on a Friday). I took 4 taxis around the town, had 5-6 beers, a pack of cigarettes, and payed entrance at one of the clubs, and all of that was under $15 (which is what entrace costs at some clubs in Samara).
And Ukraine has some other perks that are just a hassle in Russia, for example there is no registration in Ukraine (which can be a pain if you are renting a private flat in Russia). Also in Russia, to buy a local SIM card you need local registration, so you might have to wait a few days after arriving to be able to call girls at all. In Ukraine it's just $5 cash for a SIM card no questions asked. And of course for EU citizens and Americans you don't even need a visa, which is a huge plus.
I think the main thing is to avoid the places in Ukraine that are just overloaded with mongers (Kiev and Odessa in particular). Western Ukraine also seems to not be as good in terms of girls, I think mainly because their attitude is more standoffish and they dress more modestly as well. But there are lots of Eastern Ukrainian cities where most people are Russian-speaking and their incomes are 1/3 of what people are making in Russia. I was just in Ukraine and met a group of girls working at the local shopping mall in a smaller city, and they all made less than $120 a month for 6 days a week working. In provincial Russia they would be making at least $400 a month.
But you could pick some unvisited cities. Have you heard of Priluky? What about Kramatorsk? Shostka?
If I had two months and could go anywhere in the FSU, I'd pick a small Ukrainian city like that where you could live like a king on $1000/month, and for another $1000 a month you could probably sponsor 3-4 girls.
My thoughts for Proposal...
Minsk? Since you want to stay for a two months it will be hard to get a visa unless you have a registered business there. Tourist visa is for 30 days max so forget about Minsk. Most probably you will soon get bored there.
Ufa or Samara? Personally I prefer Samara for some reson but Ufa is better monger wise. But you all forgot one thing. Proposal wants to go there during November - January both this places will be cold with lots of snow. Especially Ufa which is just under Ural.
Also because of recent fires Samara region is pretty fucked up, lots of ashes floating around.
I can suggest Vladivostok which is ok for winter or maybe Astrahan.
But I must agree with Latexian. For a longer holiday Russia is difficult because you'll need to arrange long term visa, registration, etc. Ukraine is definitelly cheaper. This long period is ukrainian provinces can be hard uless you have good knowledge of russian and local support in the meaning of knowing local people. Eastern Ukraine can be fun but mongers like to avoid this area. Just check reports from this area, they are rare. Lugansk (scam capital of Ukraine) is to be avoided definitelly, Kharkov is big enough to offer something. I'd go with Dnepropetrovsk probably. Or Lvov? Much better to be one of the few mongers in Lvov than one of thousands in Kiev or Odessa. Close enough to border so you can make a quick trip to Poland, Slovakia or Hungary just for the change or atmosphere.
If you choose russian provinces it will be hard to do it unless you want to spent like whole days in the train or spending your budget on air ticket.
[quote=latexian2]if you are at all concerned with cost i would strongly, strongly urge you to go to ukraine instead.[/quote]thanks latexian for this elaborate and useful answer.
admittedly, as i plan a two monthes trip, budget is a matter of prime importance. my budget for per day expenditures (including accommodation) is about 150€, which means that i don't want to spend more than 9000€ for the whole trip. and 150€/day including accommodation means no or few p4p, no financially suicidal raids in strip bars, no dates in excessively fancy places, ect. just accommodation, "normal" dating expenses and clubbing (i'm a rather thirsty and prodigal party-goer). so effectively, i focused on russia because i'm fond of russian women and russian culture, but budget-wise, ukraine (or belarus) could be a more appropriate option. you've been to chernigov already btw ? ...an internet contact told me that any decent-looking foreigner showing-up would be immediatly raped by long-legged dyevuski (she also secondarily told me that it was one of the most enjoyable city in ukraine with many reminders of the past).
thanks again anyway.
ps : i'm not american, but francais ;)
[QUOTE=Kurenda]My thoughts for Proposal.
Minsk? Since you want to stay for a two months it will be hard to get a visa unless you have a registered business there. Tourist visa is for 30 days max so forget about Minsk.[/QUOTE]From what people at embassy told me, you can stay up to three monthes (which is the max period allowed each year in Belarus) on a touristic visa. You have the adequate LOI though.
Thanks for your answer anyway. I'm fascinated by provincial Russia, but more and more, from the answers of the specialists here, I'm afraid that it could be financially suicidal for a two-monthes stay.
[QUOTE=Latexian2]An interesting destination for mongers that find Kiev too expensive, Odessa full of money *****s, and who don't feel ready to just go off to some random industrial Ukrainian town.[/QUOTE]BTW Latexian, bumped on your post in the Ukraine threads. Which East Ukraine city (with a decent weekdays nightlife, something primordial for me) would you recommend for a long stay ?
What are your thoughts about Donetsk?
Three months belarus visa you can get , with additional documentation, hassle and high price. Forget it. Also Minsk will tour out too expencive on long term and simply forget about belarusian provinces.
Chernigov? Simply forget about it. All quality girls are already in Kiev, the city is Bible belt, people are very religious, city is full of of old orthodox churches and monasteries. Many people there told me they met their partner in church he he.
Kharkov can be a good option since there's a lot of students. Even if your russian is bad still you can manage with your french. Plenty Third World students, including Morroco and Algier where your french comes to action. You can be sure those girls left their muslim upbringing back home.
150 Euro a day budget is high so it will take you lots of money. But it depends on your needs. I spent 100 Euro a month for a 4 months stay in Norilsk. But I had a free stay and food.
The best is that you contact some apartment agencies to see what price you can get for a long stay term. For example in Ufa I met a Englishman who rented apartment there for a three moths. The price was 600$ a month but he also had to pay monthly bill for electricity, gas, water, phone, etc. Decent one room, kitchen, bathroom in wider city center.
Just few comments:
I saw snowing in Ufa at beginning of october....
I paid just a bit more than turistic visa, +80 or 90 euro, to get 3 months business visa for russia, I registered not every time, not in every city and even if here in many said I could have problem, they checked every pages of my passport but none problems at airport when I left.
To me provincial russia fascinates million times more than provincial ukraine and it is not only difference in my mind I guess, in Ufa, as Kurenda said, you are after Urals, almost closer to China than to Europe, you see that, you feel that.... in Ukraine even in Uzhorod or Nikolaev I have the feeling I was in Europe or at least just a couple of hours from the biggest european capital. So Prosal if you have 60 days of time, go there where is more far... in future you will have no problem to visit all Ukraine, but probably in future you will be more lazy to go to or close to Sibiria, the kind of travel, that as I saw, you have to decide and to go, cause if you keep on thinking about, you will end to turistic places, where it is easier to stay, but probably you won't get the same vibe provincial russia can give you.......IMHO.
The last... if I was you Prosal, go to provincial russia, if you will not like, ok it was just un unforgettale experience and you can then put your money, time and energy to Ukraine, Minsk and so on.... but consider that maybe you will like it and you will plan the second travel to russia provincies as I do....
P.S. better we do not forget Prosal was one of the very few here to go all alone to Tashkent and he was very successfull, his report is still one of the better of TSK
[QUOTE=Prosal]BTW Latexian, bumped on your post in the Ukraine threads. Which East Ukraine city (with a decent weekdays nightlife, something primordial for me) would you recommend for a long stay ?
What are your thoughts about Donetsk?[/QUOTE]
Prosal unfortunately the only Eastern Ukrainian city I've spent appreciable time in was Sumy. It's an okay city though, with at least some nightlife during the week (although there is probably better in Donetsk, Kharkiv, and Dnepropetrovsk).
Maybe Lukasek is right though. I will say this, I spent almost half a year in Samara and never met a single native English speaker (not a single American, Brit, or Aussie). And I went to clubs a lot.
Even in small towns in provincial Ukraine you will run into Europeans and Americans (often connected with marriage agencies).
Lukasek is right to point out that in Russian cities that are far from Moscow the very fact that they aren't accessible means there are very few foreigners. There are some exceptions, like Tyumen and other oil-centered regions, but lots of bigger cities without those kind of industries have almost no foreigners.
The problem, of course, as you pointed out is that provincial Russia is no longer cheap, and considering what you get for your money (hotels, restaurants) it's ridiculously overpriced. Hotels in provincial Russia are more expensive than provincial USA (think Mississippi) and so are restaurants, and the quality is much lower.
So if you're going after freebies, and you are young, have good game, are good looking and have money to burn, provincial Russia could be a gold mine.
But let's be honest, a big reason why girls in the FSU are interested in foreigners is money, and in Ukraine the economic situation really works to your advantage, both for pros and for freebies. Even if you're not promising marriage, just treating a girl to a good time is much, much cheaper in Ukraine than in Russia.
I agree with Latexian2, just for freebies UA is cheaper, but less exotic. But I guess a person who went to Tashkent alone was not only in search of pussy, otherwise why to go there just to date girls ? Prosal, and I think I am not wrong, is looking for something different, he wants to go where the other did not go and reading his reports about TSK I am pretty sure he has game enough to be successful with girls there, that's why I suggested him RU instead "turistic" UA.
However if the budget is 150 euro per day, well, that's more than fine !
Accomodation something like 40-50 euro per day is quiet "easy" to be find, not the first day, but once there definetely yes.
I did not spent 50 euro per day to eat and I do not eat at Mc Donalds :D
I cooked often dinner at my apartment, first cause doing this 2-3 times per week you save something and second cause the best past I ate in provincial russia was the one I cooked with my hands :D and third is a nice idea to suggest to women, come to my place I will cook something nice for you and we will have romantic dinner together.
Then considering in 2 months you do not take 60 hookers, but average 30, one day yes, one day not, for me 150 euro is enough budget.
I used all the time this: [url]http://www.s7.ru/en/[/url] and Moscow Ufa is about 180 euro round trip, not bad for me.
I spent about 8-9.000 euro in 2 months, I got 24 hookers and I spent the last 3 weeks in Piter....
[QUOTE=Latexian2]...I will say this, I spent almost half a year in Samara...[/QUOTE]
WOW !
I guess for business, so please tell me, how many freebies at the end you was able to date ? I mean after the first month, you stop to pay pros, you had more than enough normal girls right ?
Ok, I finished to hate Samara, as I wrote, but hey, half year in the same city in provincial russia.... if I can write one book, you can write a library man ! :)
Please tell us some stories, we are very curious and I am sure it will help Prosal to decide too.
Thanks in advance !
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I agree with Latexian2, just for freebies UA is cheaper, but less exotic. But I guess a person who went to Tashkent alone was not only in search of pussy, otherwise why to go there just to date girls? Prosal, and I think I am not wrong, is looking for something different, he wants to go where the other did not go and reading his reports about TSK I am pretty sure he has game enough to be successful with girls there, that's why I suggested him RU instead "turistic" UA.
However if the budget is 150 euro per day, well, that's more than fine!
Accomodation something like 40-50 euro per day is quiet "easy" to be find, not the first day, but once there definetely yes.
I did not spent 50 euro per day to eat and I do not eat at Mc Donalds
I cooked often dinner at my apartment, first cause doing this 2-3 times per week you save something and second cause the best past I ate in provincial russia was the one I cooked with my hands and third is a nice idea to suggest to women, come to my place I will cook something nice for you and we will have romantic dinner together.
Then considering in 2 months you do not take 60 hookers, but average 30, one day yes, one day not, for me 150 euro is enough budget.
I used all the time this: [url]http://www.S7.ru/en/[/url] and Moscow Ufa is about 180 euro round trip, not bad for me.
I spent about 8-9.000 euro in 2 months, I got 24 hookers and I spent the last 3 weeks in Piter.
WOW!
I guess for business, so please tell me, how many freebies at the end you was able to date? I mean after the first month, you stop to pay pros, you had more than enough normal girls right?
Ok, I finished to hate Samara, as I wrote, but hey, half year in the same city in provincial russia. If I can write one book, you can write a library man!
Please tell us some stories, we are very curious and I am sure it will help Prosal to decide too.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Let's not down McDonalds. It was my savior in Moscow.
please son, don't go to russia!!
go somewhere easy. go to chernigov and get immediately raped by long legged dyevushki!! go to minsk!! don't listen to kurenda, he has never been anywhere! ;-)
the last thing we want to hear is how you went to the ends of the earth, and slayed a multitude of exotic hotties again, and then never ever get to see what any of them really looked like.
go to ukraine, please, and tell us all how great you did, and then we'll all know, by the photos of the streets and apartment building entrances, and the interesting building architecture pics.
then again, you want to go to russia november through january? actually yes, you should definitely go. murmansk, archangels'k, perm, yakuts'k, all excellent choices for you. the best time to monger there, for sure.
[quote=bez bezarra]please son, don't go to russia!!
go somewhere easy. go to chernigov and get immediately raped by long legged dyevushki!! go to minsk!! don't listen to kurenda, he has never been anywhere! ;-)
the last thing we want to hear is how you went to the ends of the earth, and slayed a multitude of exotic hotties again, and then never ever get to see what any of them really looked like.
go to ukraine, please, and tell us all how great you did, and then we'll all know, by the photos of the streets and apartment building entrances, and the interesting building architecture pics.
then again, you want to go to russia november through january? actually yes, you should definitely go. murmansk, archangels'k, perm, yakuts'k, all excellent choices for you. the best time to monger there, for sure.[/quote]i understand your bitterness bez. must be hard to be stucked unemployed in a trailer park in rural iowa when others are planning two monthes trips to candyland.
i sympathize.
[QUOTE=Prosal]I understand your bitterness Bez. Must be hard to be stucked unemployed in a trailer park in rural Iowa when others are planning two monthes trips to Candyland.
I sympathize.[/QUOTE] Hey, don't fucking rub it in.......... ;)
It's hell having to rely on Oprah and Jerry Springer as a source for excitement.
Does anyone know where I can find good information on Russia's laws regarding *solicitation*?
Or are there any?
[QUOTE=Prosal]Bez,
I understand you're unemployed in a trailer park in rural Iowa, but somehow you'll be posting many new photos of dyevushki models.
And I am going on a two month trip to Candyland, that no one will EVER see what ANY girls from there look like.[/QUOTE]Kurenda, please tell our Francaise Ami, that Murmansk is the perfect place for him in December.
Better yet, just keep going north with the polar bears to Novaya Zemlaya. You'll get that nice warm glow from the radioactive decay.
I have RTTF but it seems info on Ekaterinburg is scarce at best. Any latest info will be appreciated.
Grecolover
Re: Vlad1 re: Hotel Vlad. do follow up with barmans offer in the foyer bar, also ask at the Sauna bar to the left of the lifts. Also check the other main sauna around the back of the Hotel, they have girls available to. The strip club in the basement is pricey as you say. They do have free nights as I explained before. Also check for the business cards stuck on the lifts walls – that would lead to a line up of girls to your room. I was surprised you saw some girls were working outside the main entrance, carpark area, follow up on that perhaps. I don’t know where the guys around the lifts have gone to, PM me if you work that one out. They will be there sopmewhere. I have emailed a contact there Re: more info. Will post it here. Mamba girls have a high hit rate in Vlad, check that one out to. Theres another part of the hotel, over the road is the roof top entrance to it, it is 5 storeys and embedded into the cliff. It will have cards in the lifts. At the bottom of that hotel is a restaurant and club beside the beach. Walk along the promenade, theres many bars in that area.
Studio Cafe is an upmarket indoor/outdoor cafe/bar in central city, Svetlanskaya Ulitsa. Many girls go there, not really working girls. We went to this good nightclub down the road. Another hotel is Versailles Hotel, (Svetlanskaya Ulitsa) its a classic hotel, grand architecture but a little expensive perhaps. It use to have a casino full of beautiful hookers, but Putins decision to ban casinos put an end to that ) Hotel Hyundai is big and run by Koreans and it has hookers around but i spent many hours trying to figure that one out. I think they would ring you in your room if you stayed there, but i never stayed there. It has a sky bar/restaurant on the roof with stunning views. Also taxi drivers are a good source. Check out Taxi drivers just outside hotel carpark gate. Most hotels there have carpark gates due to hits been done on particular people leaving hotels, but those days have gone now. PM me again for further info. I will be doing trans-Siberian flight soon - October, see you there.
Cheers Nickc
P.S. Prosal could you PM back to me that mamba contact i gave you for Vlad, I lost her details. Cheers
re: previous report. I just had contact. The guys around the lifts are still there, they must have been displaying at the time. Check again )
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Kurenda, please tell our Francaise Ami, that Murmansk is the perfect place for him in December.[/QUOTE]Well, as the lenght of my scheduled vacations obliges me to cut the daily spending, I lowered my ambitions and forgot about Vladivostok or Ufa to go to Kharkov, following in that the wise and enlightened advices of Latexian and Kurenda.
Weather is not a problem, thanks. I booked an apartment with sauna and jacuzi. ;)
[QUOTE=Prosal]To cut spending, I will go to Kharkov.[/QUOTE]With the kind of incredible limitless success you had in scoring with dozens of the hottest most exotically sexy girls on the entire planet, that you had in Tashkent, I think we're all surprised that you're not returning there, to use your vast knowledge and experience to assume the role of Ultra-Monger.
In between all your Kharkov freebies, you'll really save on the p4p there. What a selection of passionate dolls!! And the strippers, oh boy, smoking hot and practically free.
That place is freezing by the end of October, and pretty miserable after that until April. You'll have a lot of fun walking around in the -30 C winds with your new Candy.
Definitely a good choice Sully! Awfully sorry I won't be joining you. I'll be too busy collecting welfare checks in my double-wide at the Mudflap Skunks Trailer Park in Podunk Corners, West Virginia.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]I'll be too busy collecting welfare checks in my double-wide at the Mudflap Skunks Trailer Park in Podunk Corners, West Virginia.[/QUOTE]Hey Bez,
Ya know what? I've been making pretty damn good money trading in them empty Dr. Pepper bottles at the Piggly Wiggly. :)
I thought I’d share an experience I had one summer that might be of interest to those seeking something different to do when in Russia.
I have had a lot of opportunities to travel around Russia by train. I really like this form of transport and have been to just about every place that’s an overnight trip (or a ½ day trip) from Moscow. Sometimes I’ve been by myself, others with a sponsorette and once, I met a stripper from Club Dreams on the morning train from Nizhny Novgorod to Moscow who was more than happy to earn some extra cash in my compartment for the five hour journey!
I decided to see what could be done mongering across Russia by train, as well of course see those fascinating parts of Russia that the railway traverses. My plan was to fly to Vladivostok from Moscow, and then take 3 weeks to travel back, stopping off at various cities to see what local talent I could hook up with.
When getting on and off the train this way, you need to buy a ticket for each leg of the trip. This involved buying a lot of train tickets, so I enlisted the aid of my favourite sponsorette from Nizhny who was happy to spend three weeks fucking me on and off the train, buying all of the train tickets, booking accommodation and doing all of the translation and leg work that needed a fluent Russian speaker. Plus she’s just fun to be with…and at a reasonable price!
Our last activity once we had decided which cities to stop off at, buying the tickets etc was to jump on rambler/mamba and try and make contacts with girls in each of the cities we were to stop at to meet and have some fun. We lined up a few in each city and finally we were off.
Just a quick explanation if you have never been on a Russian long distance train – there are usually three classes - 1st Class called SV (spalny vagon) that has two bunks (some have fold out top bunks, some don’t and the quality varies – but always just two people maximum), 2nd Class or kupeyny where 4 people share the same space and platskartny or 3rd Class, where there are six bunks in the same space. For my plan to work, I booked SV all the time. These cabins can also be locked on the inside, are air conditioned and the provodnitsa (carriage attendant – or she who must be obeyed!) tend to be a lot easier on your comings and goings.
We flew to Vladivostok and spent a weekend there. Vladivostok is a nice city (there’s some good reports around here on it), a couple of good bars and one of the three girls we had lined up previously turned out to be pretty hot and we had a good time with her (another was also nice and the third a no-show). The Mauro Giavanni pizza place at the end of the pedestrian street at the ocean end had go-go dancers/strippers there on the Saturday night that we found quite amusing (strippers in a pizza place...who would have thought!). We stayed at the Hotel Hyundai and there were no issues.
Our first train leg was 12hrs to Khabarovsk, most of it overnight. A few beers, a BBBJ and some DATY in 69, and we were down for the night.
Khabarovsk was a real surprise. After checking in to the Hotel Amethyst we went and strolled the city. Very nice – clean and neat. Met two of our contacts during the afternoon and arranged to meet one of them later that night at a local bar. We ended up at a club called Hospital…very appropriately named where the girls worked up a sweat and then we retired to the Amethyst for some good 3some action. Next day we met another girl who showed us some more sites of Khabarovsk, had a nice lunch and then back to the Amethyst for a round of afternoon fun.
Our next leg was 53 hours to Ulan-Ude, crossing the Far East. This proved to be a very interesting section, as something unexpected happened.
53 hours may seem like a long time on a train, but it is broken up into many smaller stops, some no more than 2 mins and others up to 30-45 mins. It was at one of these stops that we discovered a hidden gem of riding long distance trains…girls on the train are interested in spending some time in 1st class…not so crowded, air conditioned and a chance to earn some cash. Our strategy was to mingle with the crowd on the platform, approach a likely target and strike up a conversation, and then put it to her that we might meet back on the train in the dining car, have a few drinks and then spend the time having some fun. We were able to score two on this leg using this method!
Our next stop off the train was Ulan Ude. We only had one contact arranged here and unfortunately she was a no-show. Ulan Ude itself was a nice enough city, although quite polluted and littered with rubbish in many parts. We did a great tour of the eastern side of Lake Baikal here (had an amusing lunch with a fisherman in the Selenga River Delta...ever seen a city bred 21yo Russian girl try to eat fish head soup?...).
Ulan Ude had some reasonable bars and clubs but we just didn’t gel with this city. Accomodation was at the Baikal Plaza Hotel in the centre of the city and there were no issues with this hotel. Some potential WGs in the lobby/bar area, but we didn’t explore this option.
Our next leg was a short 7 hour hop around the south edge of Lake Baikal, with some great views out to the lake. I never thought I’d be doing a 21yo Russian hottie dogstyle while watching Lake Baikal roll by...but there I was!
Irkutsk was our next stop and in contrast to Ulan Ude, we really connected with this city. We had three contacts here, and we hooked up with two of them, one of these twice (the third we met for drinks but nothing came of it). We were also able to pickup in the park beside the river – alot of people go there and watch the sunset, there are a few kiosks along here, and we got talking to some local girls and one was happy to accompany us for the evening. Again, an unexpected but pleasant surprise.
We stayed at the Hotel Victoria and there were no issues. Plenty to do in Irkutsk or there are visits you can do to Lake Baikal. For nightlife, we were shown a few large clubs and entertainment complexes...all packed with great looking girls, but I already had two so I don’t know how many were available etc. Overall, thoroughly recommend Irkutsk.
Our next leg was 29 hours to Novosibirsk. Similar to before, we used our platform technique and scored well. A nice big titted Siberian dyev who worked us both long into the night as the train rolled across the Siberian plain. Luckily we had plenty of beer and vodka to keep her entertained in between bouts!
Novosibirsk was the largest city we stopped at and it felt like it. A much harder edge to it than the other cities, although we experienced no real problems. There are plenty of bars and nightclubs, again a lot more choice than the other cities. We had arranged to meet three girls here, and met with all three. They were fun and enthusiastic, and one showed us around the sights of Novosibirsk by day and night. There were no issues with the Hotel Sibir, one of the largest hotels in the city.
It was back onto the train for our final push to Moscow. We had tried to organise a side trip to Tomsk, having heard some good things about it. A quick internet search showed it was certainly over represented in our chosen search category on rambler/mamba, but unfortunately we could not get a ticket there and back that would connect to our existing tickets. Maybe next time...
This final leg was 54 hours, so it was back to the platform technique. We had our technique all worked out now and we were successful another two times. The sponsorette was a little bit wary as we were approaching her home area, so there was a chance (albeit slight) that there was someone on the train that might recognise her. Anyway, this didn’t happen and our final two scores were very nice. We also almost scored one of the attendants from the dining car, but she couldn’t quite get away (or didn’t want to enough). Anyway, there’s another option for future trips.
Soon we were rolling into Nizhny, and my sponsorette left the train and went home. Five hours later and I was in Moscow, completely exhausted and satisfied with the trip of a lifetime.
Number 1 tip - do your research . This took me about a year to plan, and the key to success for me was using rambler/mamba and the sponsorette. Her "fee" was $100 per day, and it was well worth it for having a fluent Russian speaker, good company and sex whenever I wanted it.
The trip was also made possible by my old mate Cialis...available at any good metro apteka!
Cheers,
Wow, amazing report.
That does sound like the trip of a lifetime. How many years back did you do this?
[QUOTE=Dogger862]I thought I’d share an experience I had one summer that might be of interest to those seeking something different to do when in Russia.
I have had a lot of opportunities to travel around Russia by train. I really like this form of transport and have been to just about every place that’s an overnight trip (or a ½ day trip) from Moscow. Sometimes I’ve been by myself, others with a sponsorette and once, I met a stripper from Club Dreams on the morning train from Nizhny Novgorod to Moscow who was more than happy to earn some extra cash in my compartment for the five hour journey!
... I enlisted the aid of my favourite sponsorette from Nizhny who was happy to spend three weeks fucking me on and off the train, buying all of the train tickets, booking accommodation and doing all of the translation and leg work that needed a fluent Russian speaker. Plus she’s just fun to be with…and at a reasonable price![/QUOTE]
Great report! This is one of my fantasies - not exactly spending three weeks fucking on a train - but having a fuck-bunny to make those overnight train trips more pleasant. Sleeping in the 4 berther with a random selection of Olegs and Yuris is no way to enjoy nights in Rodina! Well done!!
Nice trip Dogger, thanks for the report.
I want to do it myself, maybe first in along the Volga.
Do you have to book the trains and the hotels well in advance or can you just show up at the train station and get a ticket and at the hotel and get a room?
[QUOTE=Dogger862]
When getting on and off the train this way, you need to buy a ticket for each leg of the trip. This involved buying a lot of train tickets[/QUOTE]
No you don't need to buy a lot of train ticket.
There's option to buy only one ticket, which lets you stay up to 10 days at each station/city on transsiberian railway. For example you can exit at Novosibirsk and stay there for 10 day and then continue to Vladivostok on the same ticket. I went on transiberian 23 times and always did this way.
Ticket you need to buy at least one month (the earlier the better) before your trip. If you decide to get a ticket few days before the trip you won't get any.
If you have company (like a girl) then get a sleeping coupe. But if you're alone then get a platskartny especially if you can speak russian. This way you will meet all kinds of people. Men will offer you to drink, older females will feed you and girls - it depends on you. If your russian sucks then forget about this, you can easily get robbed and there's always cops on the train who will see financial opportunity in you.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]No you don't need to buy a lot of train ticket.
There's option to buy only one ticket, which lets you stay up to 10 days at each station/city on transsiberian railway. For example you can exit at Novosibirsk and stay there for 10 day and then continue to Vladivostok on the same ticket. I went on transiberian 23 times and always did this way.
[/QUOTE]
Kurenda,
Does that mean you can get on and off the train at any city you like for up to 10 days at a time?
Or 10 days in total for all stops?
VG.
You can get in any city and stay up to 10 days in each of them and then continue. The ticket is valid for 120 days.
City/train stations must be on the main transsiberian railway in which the train usually stops. The condition is to buy Moscow-Vladivostok only and not for example Moscow-Novosibirsk and then continue from there.
There are 10 major cities/trainstations between Moscow and Vladivostok. Theoretically if you stay 10 days in each of them it will be 100 days enough to use your ticket.
This option is ulmost unknown among foreigners and no body use it. Problem is visa because time exceeds 90 day visa. Even if you have 30 day visa you can stay like 2 days in each city.
This option is remain from soviet times, the action was called "Know your country to love it more".
Kurenda, thanks for the info...I'm not sure we looked at this option and rejected it for some reason, or completely overlooked it, but I'll keep it in mind for any future trips.
Sweep - it was two summers ago.
Chercheur - buy the tickets and book the hotels well in advance, especially in the summer. Then again, you could just go where the wind blows. I have turned up at the train station and the airport and bought a ticket on the first train or plane that I could get a seat on. There's always an adventure to be had somewhere.
I've also done a Volga cruise...I'll save that story for another time!
Cheers
[QUOTE=Kurenda]
You can get in any city and stay up to 10 days in each of them and then continue. The ticket is valid for 120 days.
City/train stations must be on the main transsiberian railway in which the train usually stops. The condition is to buy Moscow-Vladivostok only and not for example Moscow-Novosibirsk and then continue from there.
There are 10 major cities/trainstations between Moscow and Vladivostok. Theoretically if you stay 10 days in each of them it will be 100 days enough to use your ticket.
This option is ulmost unknown among foreigners and no body use it. Problem is visa because time exceeds 90 day visa. Even if you have 30 day visa you can stay like 2 days in each city.
This option is remain from soviet times, the action was called "Know your country to love it more".[/QUOTE]
Kurenda,
Excellent reply, thank you very much.
So, in other words, this couldn't be used between Moscow and Beijing if I understand it correctly?
When you get a moment can you write the name of the ticket and approx how much it costs, if you happen to know...
VG.
[QUOTE=Pavlohh]I am travelling to Samara soon.
Anybody have hotel recomendations with some action?
BTW I was in Rostov on Don recently and a good hotel with plenty of girls is Mr. X centrally located.[/QUOTE]Man can you add some details about rostov on?
I really need it and will apreciate.
[QUOTE=Mskofmsk]
Man can you add some details about rostov on?
I really need it and will apreciate.[/QUOTE]Hey MuskOxOfMinsk!!
Wow! That's really digging way down!
The guy you asked for help hasn't even posted for more than 3 years. How'd you even find his 2003 post?
Geez, I thought that I was wierd!
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Hey MuskOxOfMinsk!!
Wow! That's really digging way down!
The guy you asked for help hasn't even posted for more than 3 years. How'd you even find his 2003 post?
Geez, I thought that I was wierd![/QUOTE]
Bez,
Maybe he did a search on "Rostov", found the post and didn't notice the date? I know using the search option isn't really that popular...
Rostov doesn't appear to have alot reported on it...might have to go there one of these days...
Cheers
Well, yeah, a search. But what a search.
Rostov is a great spot. Along with Voronezh and a few others, but you already knew that.
Your little blond goddess is still the hottest anyone's posted in several years.
I'm currently freezing my zhopa off, and getting some pretty nice talent coming my way. Agency prices are steady at 1500 rubles per hour. Had a nice sweet thing one night, and a little firecraker another time. Not to easy to get any fotos so far, as usual.
Also had a few internet babes, gotta say, so far, nothing to throw back, all worth the time and trouble.
Also met a few girlfriends of girls I met last year, which has made things really interesting, as the talent has improved in that area. Another coming for lunch tomorrow.
But by far, working on freebies. Just about to crack my own blond goddess, who wants me for her birthday present in a few days, and I will only be her second guy. And another doll, a young Audrey Hepburn look-alike. If I only had more time.
Just reached my half way point, time is flying. What a country!
Bez,
The blonde is stunning, but she knows it too :-) Costing me more every month! School fees, textbooks, lab equipment...all for a bit of ass...but what an ass! I might get some more photos of her up soon.
Freezing? After the summer we had, I want it to be as cold as it can possibly get...I hope we hit -40 in Nizhny this winter. I like the anticipation when the dyev takes off her big outer coat, to reveal her glory underneath!
I have a 20yo cutie from Medvezhegorsk looking for a sponsor...not sure I'm keen to go there in the winter! (Although she is studying in Nizhny...)
Good luck, sounds like you're scoring well.
Cheers,
Dogger -- No offense but you seem to be full of empty talk. First you say you want it to be -40 in Nihzni and then say you don't want to go to a rinky-dink town near the Finnish border, presumably because it's too cold there.
There are reasons not to go to your dev's hometown, but temps are not among them. However, in Mf-gorsk I stayed in the worst hotel I have ever seen -- in Africa, Latin America, U.S. and Asia, and the old Soviet Union. Didn't even have a toilet seat.
Your sponsorless dev should never be required to return to that hellhole.
Vittu,
No offense taken...
My discussions on temperature in NN were purely tongue-in-cheek sarcasm, in reply to Bez's comment about it being freezing... sorry that didn't come across in my post...I really don't hope that it gets to -40 this winter...
I don't think I'll need to go to Medvezhegorsk, as I mentioned she is studying in NN and that fits my profile.
Cheers,
Well, sports fans.
Can't say that I am missing home much, or America's favorite pastime, fall classic bullshit or whatever. I'm enjoying the glorius motherland's favorite pastime, being knee deep in sweet gushy stuff.
Took me an entire 10 days to hit the big jackpot, but after following the Doctor Skank rule of thumb, I waited for the 3rd date, and walked Lera into the bedroom, and BAM! God Almighty, she has saved my mother-fucking ass from the brink of doom.
Not that I haven't been quite busy with numerous highly enjoyable alternatives, but this piece of candy was simply extraoridinary. Took me back farther than I can rightly remember, to those heydays on the strip when my phone never stopped ringing for spinners in need of accomodations and a pizza. Lera is about as perfect as they come. In at 1:00 and out at 4:00.
To top off the day, Nataly showed up at 9:00, looking like a dead ringer for a teenage version of Melanie Griffith, and with the most incredible tits I've slurped since the amazing Ukrainian blondinka Alla had back in '03.
The bad news for all you bastards from hell, is that I am having the absolute worst trip ever, when it comes to photo opportunities, and modeling. For some reason, I have had virtually every dyevushka turn down any and all offers to do some modeling, so unless something really changes in the next few weeks, you guys are going to be completely in the dark, and I have bought a brand new camera for nothing. I can't even get lingerie shots from these gals. The lighting in this flat is atrocious, so I'm really trying to get a shot in during the day, when the sun almost never shines, because the room lighting will draw nothing but complaints from the peanut gallery of whining dorks. And almost every time I switch on a light, it burns out the bulb. I think I'm down to about 3 lights left in the fucking place.
As usual, you get ups and downs, yesterday was awesome. Today, I couldn't win for losing, and then out of the blue, Katya calls. She works every dam day, and so last week, hooked me up with her waitress pal, who looked all right, had a decent body, but was really a notch or two below the very high level of talent I've been fortunate enough to have been meeting. But Katya had a new pal, that she sent me. A very sweet, quiet lady, Irina, with a hot little body, and I finally rigged up the little desk as a fuck platform, even though I broke two legs on the fucking thing last night with Nataly. Katya, who's twat looked no bigger than a SIM card, opened up like some gaping wound when I bent her back, and was looser than a goose full of shotgun pellets. Well, no problem. After I got bored twisting her into a pretzel, it was an almost effortless shift to her backdoor entrance, and she never even blinked!
This place is really, well, there's just nothing good enough I can say, to put it into words. Have to go jump in the shower, Zhenya is meeting me in an hour across the street with her girlfriend. This will be expensive, sure, but what the hell, I've only spent half what I thought I would by now. Not one girl has asked for hardly anything extra so far, so I'm way behind, and can afford to go wild now.
It makes no difference where you are in Russia, once you get out of Moscow or St. Pete. The clod is even bothering me anymore, its actually the heat that fucks me up. Every store, shop, office, apartment, is always set at 78 to 80 degrees, and no ventilation, so I break out in a sweat, no matter where I go. Well fuck it, it helps draw out all the poisons. That, and blasting massive loads all over these tartar girls. God bless them.
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I have to post an update.
Things are getting really interesting now. As luck would have it, with the standard russian wierd twists and turns, I let someone who I should have known better to avoid, take advantage of my generosity and good nature.
She was someone that proposed to find me something a few steps above the standard 1500 ruble agency dyevs, which is always my primary goal, bu she tried to talk me into 10,000 rubles, about $330, for an all-night date with a supposedly good girl, some student from the institute, 20 year old blondinka. Not that that's a bad deal, but it just sounded suspicious, so.........
I passed, as I was working on some other endeavor that evening. When I tried with this chick from mamba again, to see if there was any other possibilities for a little less, the hag-slag slammed me and said I'd be better off with cheap prosititutes. Where'd she get the nerve to insult me, and how could she mis-judge the Bez-meister so completely wrong. Nobody spreads the wealth more then I do, I mean, really, what the fuck.
Anyway, she shows up with some skank, and I told her that she'll really have to come up with something better.
So the next night, she shows up with a 19 year old blondinka, pretty tight looking body, with a face that was nothing special. She hits me up for 4000, for the hook-up , and then tells me that I should give the blondinka about 10,000! I paid the hag to get her annoying ass to go away, and then all the crap I was expecting started to go down. The blond is playing very coy, don't do this, don't touch me there, I've got problems, bla bla bla.
Well, I assumed I just got set up, especially when this girl starts crying. And then I ask her, how long do you know the hag? Oh, they just met today on the internet!! Turns out, that the blond was simply on the rag, a very bloody mess. I managed to only smear one piece of linen with her red visitor, and then told her, well, I'm only giving you half, and here comes the tears again. Oh, the hag told me we were only going to a cafe to talk, not have sex!! Oh, I need more money than 5000 to pay for all my school, bla bla. Did she really think she was getting screwed? 5000 is still a lot, and with the 4000 I paid to the hag, that's $300 for a very messy quicky, I think I'm the one who should be crying.
But then, here comes the russian mystery! Turns out, blondinka has LOTS of friends, and her friends have friends too. All from the institute. So we decide that Bez is gonna pay for all her school needs, by blondinka introducing me to Katya, Dasha, Yula, and some other styudenka tomorrow night.
Just when you think, you fucked it all up, this place does a big 180, and it all falls in your fucking lap!
Fotos to follow. Stay tuned.
I got stuck here in this sh1thole for several weeks.
Anyone else here?
Just looking for some buddies to hang out and try to get laid.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]...Did she really think she was getting screwed? 5000 is still a lot, and with the 4000 I paid to the hag, that's $300 for a very messy quicky, I think I'm the one who should be crying...[/QUOTE]
Well for 300$ in Russia outside Moscow and Piter probably yes, you should cry....
WTF as you said, but to pay 300$ to have one girl to introduce her friends is still a lot or am I wrong ?
Do you plan to spoil girls in provincial Russia maybe or do you want to be sure they see you as the typical foreigner tourist who overpay everything with pussy who move on two legs ?
Oh well at least you had one girl crying just for you :D
I'd try the option 1500 rubles for 1 hour and if she is really good, then and only then I will pay more to make her stay till morning or to take her the second day....even better take her phone number and invite her to a lunch together...too much complicated, right Bez ? Or too cheap for you ?
I had the feeling some years ago you was "a bit" more successfull with girls in FSU and at "a bit cheaper" price :D
However thanks for your update, something new for you to write a normal report, do you feel good ??? lol
I hope so cause with your report you made my day man !
Nice halloween in Russia....oh btw 2 years ago you joked me, that I choose november to go to FSU, cause, your words, the best time is in spring and summer when girls wears almost nothing....nice to see you choose warm weather to be there..... :D
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Well for 300$ in Russia outside Moscow and Piter probably yes, you should cry....
WTF as you said, but to pay 300$ to have one girl to introduce her friends is still a lot or am I wrong ?
Do you plan to spoil girls in provincial Russia maybe or do you want to be sure they see you as the typical foreigner tourist who overpay everything with pussy who move on two legs ?
Oh well at least you had one girl crying just for you :D
I'd try the option 1500 rubles for 1 hour and if she is really good, then and only then I will pay more to make her stay till morning or to take her the second day....even better take her phone number and invite her to a lunch together...too much complicated, right Bez ? Or too cheap for you ?
I had the feeling some years ago you was "a bit" more successfull with girls in FSU and at "a bit cheaper" price :D
However thanks for your update, something new for you to write a normal report, do you feel good ??? lol
I hope so cause with your report you made my day man !
Nice halloween in Russia....oh btw 2 years ago you joked me, that I choose november to go to FSU, cause, your words, the best time is in spring and summer when girls wears almost nothing....nice to see you choose warm weather to be there..... :D[/QUOTE]
It's always a good time to go to FSU.... the normal prices I got two/three years ago, far out of Moscow (I mean some hours flight) was 800/1000 RUB hour 6-8.000 overnight...
An I just got nice young ones... have some mamba contacts (you never know where work brings you) and the price idea is the same...
1.000-1.200 hour and reduction for LT, a good daily escort rate for a non pro non agnecy could be 300 USD but for 24 hours unòlimited sex, and then 200 USD for all days more...
It's simple to calculate, if you look at the agiencies. Mind that the girls get approx 40%... so...
IT
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Well for 300$ in Russia outside Moscow and Piter probably yes, you should cry.
WTF as you said, but to pay 300$ to have one girl to introduce her friends is still a lot or am I wrong?
Do you plan to spoil girls in provincial Russia maybe or do you want to be sure they see you as the typical foreigner tourist who overpay everything with pussy who move on two legs?
Oh well at least you had one girl crying just for you
I'd try the option 1500 rubles for 1 hour and if she is really good, then and only then I will pay more to make her stay till morning or to take her the second day. Even better take her phone number and invite her to a lunch together. Too much complicated, right Bez? Or too cheap for you?
I had the feeling some years ago you was "a bit" more successfull with girls in FSU and at "a bit cheaper" price
However thanks for your update, something new for you to write a normal report, do you feel good? LOL
I hope so cause with your report you made my day man!
Nice halloween in Russia. Oh BTW 2 years ago you joked me, that I choose November to go to FSU, cause, your words, the best time is in spring and summer when girls wears almost nothing. Nice to see you choose warm weather to be there.[/QUOTE]
All right now, Luk. Let's get it straightened out, since you seemed to have veered offwards.
Absolutely, $300 is about as generous as anyone should ever get, and the expectation should be that the quality of the dyevochka and the full on GFE should be well above and beyond any ordinary sponsorship. At that level, its usually a sign that the candy is simply just too sweet to turn down.
In the case I mentioned, the plan was never to pay, solely to tap a new source. I never expected the whole experience with Irina to go so badly, but I also never expected that she would send me so many quality sponsorettes, more than I ever had time to meet. But since when are Russian girls going to show up for a first date with a new very rich guy, when they are bleeding like a stuck pig? I think that's only ever happened before once, but that was not an expensive girl, that was just some dumb girl in search of some sex training.
So, you must have missed my first in-country post, but I mentioned that I had already spent my first week busy calling all the agencies, and as usual, I turned down most of what they sent me, for 1500, because, as usual, the quality was simply below any standard of decent mongering behavior. Drunk fat ugly skanks are simply unacceptable! But that's mostly what you get for $50. Did I make the effort this time to run around and check out all the cat houses? Well, no, not even once! I've done that before, and it didn't get me anything except time wasted and taxi money. It was interesting, it was different, but I got almost as much accomplished this time without all the running. My driver, a great helper, over the last 3 years, was AOL, cell phone never answered, and I never found a new evening driver who seemed like he would be as big a help. I did ask around, but maybe I'll find one next time?
Listen, you don't have to call me uncomplicated or cheap either, those are both ridiculous thing to say to me. I'm having one agency girl coming over in the morning on her own time, then meeting some mamba girl for lunch, then meeting a freebie at my cafe after her lectures at the institute are finished, and then getting a late night visit from a girlfriend of last year's sponsorette. As far as hunting for bargains, I have found them before, and this time too, but they aren't always available. Besides, its more fun pushing the limits, to get something special.
I did feel great, walking up all the hills without getting tired. The stairs started getting harder than easier, and I trained for two months before going over, I never used my own elevator, and I live on the 5th. My flat was only on 4th, but it got tough at the end. I'm glad I made your day, that's what I live for, as you know.
Had a molar go abscess, while I was sitting in the airport, waiting to leave. Not the best timing, since I just checked my suitcase with the painkillers, so my flights were brutal, went straight to the dentist from my airport and got the bugger yanked out. The last few days haven't been very pleasant, especially now facing the next 6 months in sex prison.
But that's the monger life, is it not?
Any one any hints/tips/websites/ emailaddresses for Ekaterinburg?
Through Google I don't seem to be able to find anything.
[QUOTE=Fg Dutch]Any one any hints/tips/websites/ emailaddresses for Ekaterinburg?
Through Google I don't seem to be able to find anything.[/QUOTE]
Try [url]www.sextalk.ru[/url] ...
There is a dedicated Ekaterinburg report section ... which will have links to many of the devas ...
Enjoy ... and report.
P13
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]....
So, you must have missed my first in-country post, but I mentioned that I had already spent my first week busy calling all the agencies, and as usual, I turned down most of what they sent me, for 1500, because, as usual, the quality was simply below any standard of decent mongering behavior. Drunk fat ugly skanks are simply unacceptable! But that's mostly what you get for $50. Did I make the effort this time to run around and check out all the cat houses? Well, no, not even once! I've done that before, and it didn't get me anything except time wasted and taxi money. It was interesting, it was different, but I got almost as much accomplished this time without all the running. My driver, a great helper, over the last 3 years, was AOL, cell phone never answered, and I never found a new evening driver who seemed like he would be as big a help. I did ask around, but maybe I'll find one next time?...[/QUOTE]
I have the feeling that even motherland changed and a lot.... am I wrong ? Cause I hope so....
My last time was in 2008 and obviously I am missing Russia a lot and honestly even the russian girls I got in the German FKK do not seem to help my homesick, they only help me to improve my knowledge of russian language, that's not bad either, but not enough too....
I will busy until about the end of 2011 now and to have a lot of work it is not bad in this economical crisi, but I am already looking forward to my next time to Russia and thinking about what I will find cause from your reports it seems the golden times are gone...
So what I am asking to you is: if you could what you changed of this travel and how do you rate it ?
Too bad there are almost no reports from a place, provincial Russia, that is one of the most interesting from a monger's point of view, even if, I know it well, not an easy one where to be successfull....
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I have the feeling that even motherland changed and a lot. Am I wrong? Cause I hope so.
My last time was in 2008 and obviously I am missing Russia a lot and honestly even the Russian girls I got in the German FKK do not seem to help my homesick, they only help me to improve my knowledge of Russian language, that's not bad either, but not enough too.
I will busy until about the end of 2011 now and to have a lot of work it is not bad in this economical crisi, but I am already looking forward to my next time to Russia and thinking about what I will find cause from your reports it seems the golden times are gone.
So what I am asking to you is: if you could what you changed of this travel and how do you rate it?
Too bad there are almost no reports from a place, provincial Russia, that is one of the most interesting from a monger's point of view, even if, I know it well, not an easy one where to be successfull.[/QUOTE]Don't take this as an attack, because its probably not. But you sound really out of touch, either its just a goof, or you just arrived in a time machine.
Even the motherland has changed? Uh., you think? What HASN'T changed? The world is spinning, man. Did you step off? If you keep looking back, you're going to miss what's next! Change is coming, and faster than before. So you adapt, right? You better! Or you become extinct.
Because from my reports, the golden times are gone? What member has NOT said since around 2003, that the golden times weren't already gone back then?
Really, amigo. Probably your entire post was just a big goof on me, but, why why would you be looking forward to the end of golden times, and say I'm posting about it, when I that basically everything is still the same. Is this Luk, or Bizzarro World Luk?
Now wait, at the end, you said that the provinces are not easy to be successful. Was that a joke too? Because if it wasn't, then you just answered your question. Because that's the point really, isn't it? Isn't the challenge what really MAKES it the most interesting place? Yes, that's exactly right.
The perfect example. Just before my first dive-surf-monger-cigar-a-thon trip to DR, I found Jackson and discovered ISG, read all the posts about Boca Chica, and went there in '96. And it was EXACTLY as I read, right down to the Pina Coladas at that pool at that hotel, even some of the girls, exact same ones I read in the posts. You know, different, sure, but those girls, just not very interesting. Not to me anyway.
Compare that, to, just for example, someplace like Orel, or Michurinsk, or Krasnodar, or Penza, or Voronezh.
So what I'm asking any of you, is. Do YOU have the commitment, to pick one place, and just go back there, for FIVE YEARS IN A ROW? Nah, didn't think so. No, that's not a knock on you really. We all have different tastes. You guys want to guy to 5 different places, and I don't. Its as simple as that. You think, moy chet has enough contacts now, after 5 years, to keep me pretty busy?
Ok, ok. You asked me, what I would change, and how would I rate it? The only thing I might change is October, it was only about 2 or 3 see for three weeks. And time, I would change time, so I don't have to go back to work, EVER! Well, maybe that's too far. But 3 weeks, not nearly enough! And I would take more photos, but I always am so lazy for the first 10 days, concentrating on the devs.
How I would rate it? This is the first year after several that I've been healthy, even knocked off 30 pounds before I went.
What a difference!
Dutch,
Here's the link to the Sextalk forum for Ekaterinburg. It's in Russian, but if you focus on the photos/phone numbers/prices you should be able to connect with some worthwhile providers.
[url]http://sextalk.ru/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=clsr_ekat[/url]
Also, there is a 911 club in Ekaterinburg, which is probably your best bet.
If you will visit Ekaterinburg this time of year, best advice I can give you is to dress warmly. Summer there runs from the end of May to beginning of September, when winter begins.
Hi Guys,
[url]http://www.ekaterinburgnu.com/[/url]
I used this successfully last week. I have no Russian language, but I communicated via SMS from my computer (Nokia connected via bluetooth). I translated my message and the replies via google translator--50% of the girls I smsed replied.
There used to be an excellent ex-pat type bar in the center across from Park Inn hotel, but it was closed.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=RoPickle]Hi Guys,
[url]http://www.ekaterinburgnu.com/[/url]
I used this successfully last week. I have no Russian language, but I communicated via SMS from my computer (Nokia connected via bluetooth). I translated my message and the replies via google translator--50% of the girls I smsed replied.
...
Good luck![/QUOTE]
How about a report? 50% replies ... leading to what?
Another lead might be [url]www.mamba.ru[/url]
Go to Russia, Sverdlovskaya, Ekaterinburg.
As of 5 minutes ago, the number of female profiles mentioning "sex" was
up to age 19 - 222, ages 20 through to 29 - 3971, ages 30 through to 39 - 428, ages 40 through to 49 - 151, ages 50 through to 59 - 21, and (the final category I looked at) ages 60 through to 69 - 4.
From the look of the photos the candy comes in all shapes and sizes.
Please let me know if anyone wants information on the catergories "70 through to 79", and beyond! (WTF!!)
Enjoy and report.
P13
I moved here from photo gallery thread, I do not want to go OT.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]...
As for your advice to me, I'm sorry to remind you, that some of us, don't EVER set the calendars in our cameras. Never have, never will, just don't give two shits about it, especially when it keeps you all thinking that you actually know when i took a foto!! Ok, that sounds ridiculous, but, again, I'm just sorry, that its also true. What ever date is on any foto I post, that you have to look up by clicking on something, is no date that I ever set on any camera...[/QUOTE]
Do not worry that's the least ridicolous thing about what you wrote in your posts......
For example:
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]...
Now can you please answer the following, info I requested from you almost a year ago, but you never answered?
....[/QUOTE]
The one who never gave one single useful info is the same one who asks infos to somebody else ?
You are useless here as you never gave one SINGLE usefull info and you want the others to give infos to you ?
Why ? Because you only want infos from everybody but you never contributed to this forum with one single info !
Why somebody should give you infos ?
Ah yes....to see granny pics taken years ago...that's another ridicolous thing, but I can easily believe that at your age that's all you can do, to watch to pictures....
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]...
How I would rate it? This is the first year after several that I've been healthy...[/QUOTE]
Are you sure to be healthy ? You know some diseases are difficult to be healed, not that I do not care a lot about your health .... it is that I just hope you will not spread in the FSU your diseases....diseases that as you wrote need several years to be, maybe, healed.... ( use condom please next time, thanks :D )
Ok we all very well know, you indeed do not have to....but if you can...get healthy soon poor old [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] Pissarra....
So, I got busy after work firing off translated SMSs to girls on this site. By the time I got to #6, replies were coming back in, and I translated them in Google. Then, the one below answered and said she spoke English, so I went with her and dropped the others. Very nice girl, but has put on some weight since the photo. Overall, 8 out of 10 for service.
[url]http://www.ekaterinburgnu.com/link.php?link=414&fotourl=6210[/url]
[QUOTE=Pushkin13]How about a report? 50% replies ... leading to what?
Another lead might be [url]www.mamba.ru[/url]
Go to Russia, Sverdlovskaya, Ekaterinburg.
As of 5 minutes ago, the number of female profiles mentioning "sex" was
up to age 19 - 222, ages 20 through to 29 - 3971, ages 30 through to 39 - 428, ages 40 through to 49 - 151, ages 50 through to 59 - 21, and (the final category I looked at) ages 60 through to 69 - 4.
From the look of the photos the candy comes in all shapes and sizes.
Please let me know if anyone wants information on the catergories "70 through to 79", and beyond! (WTF!!)
Enjoy and report.
P13[/QUOTE]
RoPickle,
Nice work, even with a bit of weight on her, she would still look good. How did the silicon feel...or are they natural?
In the photo gallery, the following question was asked - how to rate these cities. Well, I haven't been to all of them but Volgograd and Kazan are fun, with good success at both. Novosibirsk was fair to good, I didn't see any action at Ufa or Chelyabinsk but of the two I'd say Chelyabinsk had more promise.
I'd add Khabarovsk, Krasnoyarsk, Irkutsk and Smolensk to a list of must-monger provincial destinations.
1. Dnipropretrovs'k v. Donets'k?
2. Rostov-na-Don v. Volgograd?
3. Voronezh v. Saratov
4. Samara v. Kazan
5. Ufa v. Chelyabins'k
6. Novosibirsk v. Yekaterinberg
Cheers,
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Bez, the poor old [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] Pissarra!
You are useless here!!
You NEVER gave one SINGLE usefull info!!
You only want infos from everybody but you never contributed to this forum with one single info!
Why somebody should give you infos?
All your photos are of grandmothers taken years ago and they are ridicolous, but you are so old, that's all you can do.
I do not care about your health.
You spread your venereal diseases in the FSU because you don't use condoms.
We all very well know, you indeed do not have to get healthy, poor old [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url].
*(this quote was slightly edited for content, to clarify the intent of the author, whose first language is not english)[/QUOTE]To the membership:
Please congratulate Lukaksek on his contributions, they epitomize the spirit of brotherhood of mongers on ISG.
Even Kurenda, the oligarch of info, has fallen under the control of Lukasek, after I corrected his error about my never setting the calendars on my cameras.
For the sake of the board, I repeated my inquiry to Kurenda, about comparisons of oblast capitals, to encourage members to venture off the beaten path, for real adventures, but as usual, I was attacked for this, by the authority of the forum, Moderator Administrator Lukasek.
Warning to all members: do not contradict Lukasek, or you will be attacked with full impunity, in the same fashion that he spews his hate for me.
Here's another ridiculous grandmother taken years ago, because I'm so old and diseased, that's all I can do:
Gentlemen,
Any info on this city. Haven't been able to find much.
Anybody been to Omsk?
Any recommendations there?
And it looks extremely cold.
TIA
[QUOTE=RoPickle; 1089178]Hi Guys,
[url]http://www.ekaterinburgnu.com/[/url]
I used this successfully last week. I have no Russian language, but I communicated via SMS from my computer (Nokia connected via bluetooth). I translated my message and the replies via google translator-50% of the girls I smsed replied.
There used to be an excellent ex-pat type bar in the center across from Park Inn hotel, but it was closed.
Good luck! [/QUOTE]Interesting website and found some good looking girls.
Only thing is that is see some with the smae phone number, ok there can be someone inbetween customer and girl, thats fine.
But look at these two girls:
[url]http://www.ekaterinburgnu.com/link.php?link=431[/url]
[url]http://www.ekaterinburgnu.com/link.php?link=651[/url]
Very nice looking, but I think it is the same girl. There is this little spot on her chest, under left breast. Are my eyes seeing things or do you also see this spot on both girls. Cannot be a coincidence.
Vyborg and other historical Finnish cities are popular destination for Finns and also for Russian upper class. There are plenty of opportunities to get laid ranging from hotel WGs to some organized brothels.
In Vyborg your easiest pick is to ask barmen or drivers for help. They usually get their commission so be aware. Chatting up regular girls is also relatively easy and many of them like some sponsoring. It isn't uncommon in Russia to see 18yo girl with 60yo guy. At least it seems the girls don't feel shame walking with 60yo monger in public. Thats kinda different compared to WE.
If you crossing the border to Finland you'll see lots of SWs near petrol stations on Russian side. They cost anywhere between 10€ to 50€ and quality varies as much.
As we are in Russia, one should be very careful with taxis and especially illegal taxis. Karelia isn't safer than rest of Russia even though the cities are quite small. Basic rules are the same everywhere: Never carry lots of money on you after dark, never enter a car with more than one person inside, etc.
Russia has some incredible charm when it comes to mugging foreigners. First you'll always get a good fuck, and you only get mugged after, never before.
Does anyone have any experience with the mongering life in Yuzhno Sakhalinsk? I realize that it's a tiny place (200k people) loaded with expats but I am planning a business trip in the new year and am curious to know if anyone has any info.
Thanks,
Jake
The city of Yuzhno Sakhalinsk you can visit freely.
But to venture outside of the city going around the island you will need to obtain a permit from FSB office.
The local office is supposed to give you one but in most cases they will telly to visit their office in Moscow.
The island is patroled by armed volunteer groups called &1076; &1088; &1091; &1078; &1080; &1085; &1072; . They have official permit to shoot any person (especially foreigner) they found suspicious but in most cases they will shake you down for everything you have.
Loaded with expats? Not that much, maybe ten years ago. Now you have small number of Japanese and Americans who make short time stops there.
I am going to Krasnodar in a couple of months (March -April), any recommendation about devushkas, pro's or semi pros preferentially blondishkas would be welcome, they tell told me this a good town to find blonde pussy it is that true? Any recommendations or observations regarding this town? I speak some Russian enough to negotiate with girls and make my way around on my own even though I am not fluent so any recommendation is welcome, thanks.
[QUOTE=Zacchio; 998465]Ok, I'll go and I'll tell you. If nobody kill me during my stay!
LOL!
BTW I'm an Italian HD proud owner, of course.
I hate French man, but our common passion for bikes and babies could help us!
Thanks to all[/QUOTE]A couple of years ago (2008) I was in a plane on my route from Moscow to Penza and I was quite surprised to see an Italian guy in the very same flight that I was, now I am surprised to read the forums that another Italian is going to Krasnodar almost the same as I, because I am also a Latin guy (Mexican) that is why I find that to be quite funny.
[QUOTE=Strike 69; 1114985]I am going to Krasnodar in March, is this a good town to find blonde pussy?
I speak Russian enough to negotiate with girls and make my way around on my own. [/QUOTE]Too bad you're not going in May, when the coats come off and the skirts blow around in the wind.
With the Caucuses just over the horizon, and then Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Turkey, and then just slightly farther to Iran / Iraq, that would not imply the ethnic mix would favor blonds, but with 150 years of government-forced resettlement, there's always some blood that's out of place.
Good luck negotiating and getting around, keep a low profile. Take a lot of photos. Go to the circus. Drink some borshch. Get a two scoop ice cream waffle cone on Krasnaya street.
But of course, Kurenda's always the man with the best real inside info.
What's your business there, if you don't mind?
You flying in direct from Frankfurt?
Hotel or apartment?
Your a lucky fucker!
I am very interresting in a good website with real pictures, in SPB.
Does somebody could givemean advise, I found very nice ladies in.
[url]http://www.rusprostitute.com/[/url]
, but I am quite sure that the picture are false, or to much photoshop.
If you have a nice adress near Newsky for Salon, it would be appreciate also!
Tx guys!
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra; 1115166]Too bad you're not going in May, when the coats come off and the skirts blow around in the wind.
With the Caucuses just over the horizon, and then Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Turkey, and then just slightly farther to Iran / Iraq, that would not imply the ethnic mix would favor blonds, but with 150 years of government-forced resettlement, there's always some blood that's out of place.
Good luck negotiating and getting around, keep a low profile. Take a lot of photos. Go to the circus. Drink some borshch. Get a two scoop ice cream waffle cone on Krasnaya street.
But of course, Kurenda's always the man with the best real inside info.
What's your business there, if you don't mind?
You flying in direct from Frankfurt?
Hotel or apartment?
Your a lucky fucker! [/QUOTE]Hi Bez thanks for the tips perhaps it should be more wise to wait to go in May / June in order to see some skirts / panties and bare asses blowing around in the wind.
I am not as good as you in taking pictures but I will do my best in taking photos of lovely Soviet sponsorettas
My business there is to visit some friends of course I want to not waste my stay there and sample some local girls.
I think I will stay in a hotel the first 3 days (visa registration) and later if possible move to an apartment.
I am not as luck as you are with all those lovely young Devushkas you sample and photograph hehehe.
Cheers