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Hi All, does anybody know if you take the train from koln to bergheim to go to babylon is the station bergheim (erft)bahnhof or something else,on bahn.de they gave many stations for bergheim.. thanks if anyone can help with info..
Bergheim (Erft) is correct. From there you can either take a taxi or a bus to Elsdorf, where Babylon is located.
Be carefull, the last train to Cologne from Bergheim is leaving around 9pm (not 100% sure maybe it's even already around 8pm, so check the timetable) or you'll have to go to Horrem by taxi, which is going to be expansive.
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Guys whats the word on Babylon? Is it worth visiting right now or are clubs like Parksauna Wildenrath or Planet Happy Garden a better choice?
thanks for the info, keep up the good job!
too bad,
Babylon during long time was a "must" place and it is no longer.
Best advice : avoid the place.
They start now woth over prices compared to most places in the area and maybe a consequence to less attendance due to this, the quality of the girls has dropped dramatically.
I didn't visit the "sister-club" Wiago and maybe somebody can say here if it is the same problem there.
But for Babylon, sure (2 visits to make no mistike) good times are over.
Maybe they one day realize that earlier all was better.
I visited Babylon at the end of September last year on a Monday afternoon. I had already enjoyed Oasis (my favorite), FKK World and Atlantis.
Babylon was stiffer (more formal perhaps) than the Frankfurt clubs. The old center stool in the U-shaped couch is gone, as is the dance stage. The layout seemed to encourage the quieter atmosphere. There is no hustle in Babylon. You have to take the first approach move. There is nothing like the light hustle at Frankfurt.
The girls were attractive and much better than I had expected after reading posts on other boards. It wasn't up to the standards of Babylon circa 1999 or 2001, but on an absolute basis it was good. I spent some time with a Dutch girl named Monica (my fourth Babylon Monica over the years) and enjoyed her as much as I have enjoyed any Dutch girl.
FWIW, I went on to Wildenrath later in the afternoon, and didn't like it at all. May have something to do with a guy who took four (!) girls upstairs together. They likely were the best of the lot.
Babylon is not that bad anymore. Indeed, a couple of years it was not so attractive, most of the girls left, but recently I have visited it and must say, the girls have improved again, and the atmosphere is good.
Especially my dear lovie Verona is really a genius in offering a fantastic blowjob till the end, till the last drop.
I will continue going there!
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Rudi, did you have pay extra for blowjob to completion? What are the prices right now at the club?
I've read recently on the German forum that the management and the pricing of services at this club has changed for the better.
One of the first FKK clubs I ever visited and one which I thought I absolutely had to visit whenever I was there. I stopped going because I was ripped off the last time.
We hung out in the room for a bit longer and she took it to mean that I wanted a double session with her.. so be warned!
I paid and didn't make a scene but I would advise caution (and its not because of a misunderstanding of any sort - I speak fluent German).
My kind of club though: all nude, small, nice edited selection of women, quiet. I've had many a good session here with outstanding women I've never forgotten.
Not sure the changes mean this club rises in priority though unless I am again in the neighborhood.
I called there on Friday, because I wanted to go there again, but they said they had 5 girls, and that just isn't enough for me to risk the entry fee and a whole afternoon and the dirve to the middle of nowhere.
I went to Bernds instead, which was OK, especially the food. Sessions were OK, but the selection among the 18 girls was not that great. Had a Greek girl who had a baby at 14, and started the job on her 18th birthday, and who looked better bouncing around like Stella used to than she was in the room. Then there was a black girl named Princess from France and Cameroon. Ass to drop dead for, and the service was good, although I am always paranoid in that club about girls trying to fuck without condoms, so I get all nervous there.
yeah the girl count is small but it's always been fun for me if frickin elsdorf wasn't so far away from everything. haven't been there in awhile tho.
they could have 5 girls but if 1 of them was laura... is she still there? i've heard elsewhere that she had left and came back. if she is, i'm rubba dub dub-ing her straight to the room with the adjacent jacuzzi bathtub and booking an hour session with her. after that, it's more than likely that at least one of the remaining girls would be more than suitable for me. last time i was there there was a russian newcomer (i think her name was svetlana), slim [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] with smooth milky white skin natural blond who was coming out of the room just as i came from the locker room fully dressed and ready to leave. drats!
babylon as well as colosseum has always suited my eyes as far as their girl selection goes, but i understand that some people like a little more variety and for that you always need a higher body count.
I've been with Laura. Blonde, thin, tall, small tits. The most amazing pussy lips: big and full. Very wet.
I believe Verona is also still there. Blonde, petite, very large tits, Italian. Also, very wet down there.
I understand that Shirina has retired and is now the Thekenfrau.
I've seen her many times, never actually had the pleasure. A friend of mine swears by her though as providing the ultimate in service.
I used to go to see Suzi (blonde, from Bonn, nice large tits) and Michelle (brunette, Hungarian). Also still dream of Chanel (blonde, half German and Turkish, nice figure and very uninhibited).
And there was the legendary Nina (the most perfect body and face - a 10+) who the guys on the Roemerforum still talk about.
Hoping that the new management means a return to the good old days.
Susanna (again), and
Yvette (again)
This was my last day, and I was going to make the most of it. I repeated with Susanna and Yvette. It was just like the first time except that I had them do more with each other than with me. It was fantastic watching them kiss and lick each other. How much time and money had I wasted in Amsterdam trying to find girls who would do threeways and if I were lucky it would only be a partial rip off, and now I had a roomful of three way all star beauties.
Maria, Turkey, 25?, looks 7, attitude 9
There were several other nice girls that I still hadn’t gotten to and wanted to see before I left. Maria was a nice Turkish girl with long black hair covering her shoulders and big natural tits. She agreed to do it right in the main room in the corner with the wide sofa area.
Maria, Germany/Thailand, 25?, looks 8, attitude 9
Next up was Miriam, a pretty half-German half Thai girl. We went to a private room and she did a fantastic cim for me, letting it drip out of her mouth and all over her chin like a porno movie. I think she had changed the subject when she said she thought the food was better in Germany than in Thailand, but I’m not sure.
Margueretta, German, 25?, looks 7, attitude 9
The last one that I really had to do was Margueretta. She was a nice German girl with wavy dry red hair to her shoulders. I saw her return with a customer and I asked her if she was free. She said she wasn’t ready quite yet, so I told her to come get me when she was. She found me in the main room and we had sex there in front of everyone.
Yvette (again)
When we were done it was still early to leave. I figured I could squeeze in one more round, so I went with Yvette, who had grown on me. If this wasn’t my first FKK trip ever I would have said this was a mistake. I was by this time completely exhausted sexually from the past week and that afternoon had been particularly intensive. There was a lot of blowing of my half limp dick and finally a long jerkoff session to try to cum in her mouth, which eventually succeeded and was really nice, with cum dripping out of her mouth and spread all over her lower face, but she gave me a look (a friendly look) and said that she thought I was done for the day. I agreed. I also tipped her 30 DM extra for the long and patient session.
When I left several of the girls came over to say goodbye. The manager said that she thought I had been with every girl, though that wasn’t quite true since there were one or two who were heavy and I wasn’t interested in. Also I regretted never having been with the frizzy red haired girl who I had seen giving a blowjob on the first day. She had only been there once or twice after that and I hadn’t gotten to her.
Unfortunately there was a bit of a disagreement before I left. I was low on DM so I had asked if I could pay with Dutch Guilders if I ran out and the manager had said yes. I had asked what the rate was, was one Dutch guilder equal to one DM, and she had said yes. Well, when I went to pay one DM was not equal to 1 guilder, it was equal to 1.2 guilders, so the price had gone up and I made a fuss, but I paid anyway. I thought she had played a game with me, but I had enjoyed the club so much I didn’t want to make much out of it. Later, however, I looked at the currency rates in the paper and realized that she was quoting a very fair rate. She probably hadn’t understood me when I asked if the rate was 1 to 1 and I felt badly for unnecessarily creating a bit of hard feeling after such a wonderful week.
Susanna (again), and
Yvette (again)
A couple of days later I was back in Babylon and this time I was going to do a threeway and make the most of my experience to get it right. This time I picked both girls myself, Susanna and Yvette, and they were both young and beautiful. We warmed up on the sofa and went to a large and luxurious room. And it was hot. We did double blow jobs, double daty, oral triangle ... One image fixed in my mind is both of them on their knees, facing each other, holding each other tight and making out like two horny teenagers, which is what they were, or almost. I finished with a double cim. Susanna whined because I got some of it in her eye, but overall it was one of my great all time experiences.
Anya (again)
After that I went back to Anya. She seemed very pleased and even surprised. She was warmer and friendlier than before. She absolutely refused do sex in the room, but she didn’t seem to mind doing a very long 69 on the sofa in front of everyone. Anya’s skin was really soft and youthful. In the room she kissed like my girlfriend that I hadn’t seen for a month. I banged her brains out and then we went back to 69 so I could cum in her mouth. She didn't swallow, which was the way I wanted it, so I lied for her and paid the extra 50. When we were done I wanted to take her downtown and buy her presents.
Name?, German, 24?, looks , attitude 4
But first I needed a break. I went to some interesting towns to sightsee. I also tried a couple of other clubs, but with bad results. I went to Berndt’s, which took forever to find, including asking people with their kids how to find the street, and when I got there it was closed because it was the weekend. I also visited a club somewhere north of Koln and it was closed too. It was right next to a bar and I embarrassed myself by going into the bar and asking where the club was. They told me they had no idea what I was talking about, but I’m sure they knew exactly. On my way through Frankfurt I decided to visit a no name club. At least if it had a name I didn’t remember what it was. It had a strange price structure, where 170 DM got me two tickets that were good for sex. There were only a handful of girls and I only saw one that looked interesting. I approached her and she had a lukewarm attitude. When we got to the room she wanted to do covered bj, but I could do bb if I spent both tickets. There wasn’t anyone else worth doing, so I figured why not. When the mediocre session ended I checked quickly to verify that there was no one else interesting and left.
I still hadn’t tried Wiago, but if it was half as good as it’s sister club, Babylon, it was certainly worth going on another Yahoo maps expedition to find it. I went there in the afternoon so that if it weren’t good I would still have time to go to Babylon. It is in a semi-industrial area of town and was hard to find even with maps. They have the same formula of greeting you with naked women, only neither of the two who greeted me were hot. I thought for a moment of walking out, though that would be awkward and it would mean never coming back, at least not on this trip. Also as I walked to the reception desk I passed some photos of the alleged lineup, and they looked impressive. It was early in the day, so it was hard to know if the good girls were there yet or not.
Name?, France, 21?, looks 7, attitude 7
I paid and entered the main area, and I was not impressed. There was one girl who had a great figure, but not a great face. I waited a while to see if the selection would get any better and it didn’t. I wondered how there could be such a difference between two sister clubs. I decided to go for the girl with the nice body. I never got her name. She had long frizzy black hair down over her shoulders. She was athletic looking and had huge perfect tits. Her face had a lot of freckles. I sat with her and told her that I hardly spoke German and she got flustered and wanted to know how we were supposed to do anything in that case. I had a hard time understanding why this might matter much. She was from Strasbourg, though, so she spoke French, which I am better at, but I was still put off by her reaction to me not speaking German.
Wiago had a nice round red velvet bed in front of a fireplace in the secondary living room. I asked her if we could have sex there and she said yes. It was a great setting, out in the open on a luxurious erotic bed with a crackling fire next to us. Her performance was just so so. There was little kissing, and she wouldn’t do cim or even let me cum on her tits. When I was done using her there clearly was nothing else that interested me at this club, and I didn’t want to see her again. I hated to get only one session for my admission fee, and it was possible that more girls would show up later, but I still had time to get in a full evening at Babylon if I left right away and I wasn’t going to risk a night in Germany on the possibility that this weak spectacle might improve. Even if some nice girls might show up sitting around waiting for them would have been unbearably boring.
Babylon
On top of all that I had a date. When I showed up at Babylon Zabina was there and she came over and asked me if I still wanted to have sex with two girls in the middle of the main room. Of course I did. She suggested that we wait until there were more people so it would be more fun. (Now I didn’t have to feel bad about wasting time in Wiago.) Meanwhile she asked me which girl I would like her to pick as our third. The red haired girl who I had first seen give a bbbj on the first day was there and I asked if she looked good to Zabina. Zabina smiled and said yes, and went to ask her. She came back with a disappointed expression saying that the girl had said she would do a threeway, but not in the main room. We tried several others, including Susanna and Yvette. Finally Pia agreed. Pia had a great body, slim with perfect tits, but not a great face. We sat together while we waited for people to show up and she said one thing that was off putting. She asked me a favor; that the next time I not take SO LONG so finish when I am inside her! It hadn’t occurred to me that I had taken a long time with her the day before. At one point when we were waiting together a girl started giving a guy a blow job and I asked her what she thought of it, whether it got her excited. She and Pia laughed and Zabina said no, they had all seen SO many blow jobs that seeing one more had no effect on them. This also put a slight damper on my fantasy of a room full of beautiful girls waiting just for me to come have sex with them because they were so horny. I hadn’t really thought about what it would be like to spend all day every day there in that room, staring at the same walls and the same girls giving the same blowjobs, only the dicks changing.
Zabina (again), and
Pia, Germany, 21?, looks 6, attitude 9
The room filled up and Zabina suggested we get started. We went straight to the circular bed in the middle of the main room with no couch warm up. I got a little nervous when the TV showing porn was turned off, people took seats around us, and the manager came out to watch, but it was also exciting to be the star of a group sex show. I was going to bang two girls, have them do lesbian action, and cum in one of the girl’s mouths. That never happened in any of the crap sex shows that I had seen in various red light districts around the world.
It got off to a great start. Lots of deep French kissing with both girls and they with each other. Making out with one and getting blown by the other. A double blow job including 69 with both girls licking my dick. An oral triangle. One of the girls and I going down on the other girl. Then fucking. First Pia, then Zabina, and meanwhile they kissed each other, or one went down on the other.
But it got less good when I realized how many times I had popped over the past several days, including that day. I began regretting my visit to Wiago. As I should have felt myself getting closer to a climax I instead seemed to be getting numb. The effect of two hot girls kissing was wearing off. I also thought of Zabina’s complaint that I had taken too long the day before. So I decided to finish things off. As I was on top of Zabina I asked her if I could cum in her mouth. She said “No!” But Pia said it was ok, so I started to jerk off into her mouth. But even that was difficult. Zabina went down on her, but by then that didn’t stimulate me much more than if she had done her taxes in front of me. I worried that people were starting to get bored. Finally I was able to finish in her mouth, but what had gotten off to a great start had a slightly embarrassing end. Still, it was fun. Afterwards I realized that I should have just called it quits without finishing once it had started to go on too long.
Feeling guilty for taking so long I later tipped each of them 50 DM on top of all the other charges, so it ended up being expensive at 550 DM, but still fun and unlike anything I had ever done before. I didn’t regret it at all. I thought how it would have been better if I had blown the big load that I shot at Wiago in Pia’s mouth instead of inside that Strasbourg girl l, but I was happy to have seen Wiago and that session in front of the fire was memorable in a way. I tipped them extra partly because I had later asked Susanna if it is a good idea to give a little extra if I take a long time. She pointed at her head and said “now you’re thinking!” It was a crass response, I thought, but it was a yes and I was probably going to tip anyway.
Susana had watched the whole thing and I sat with her and asked if she thought I was crazy. She said no. I said that she probably doesn’t like having sex with another girl and she smiled and said “why not?” I lit up. I never thought someone as beautiful as her would be interested. I just didn’t think I could be that lucky. But now I was that lucky and it was time to enjoy my good luck. I waited a while to recharge the batteries, then asked her to pick another girl.
Susanna (again), and
Mandy, Germany, 28?, looks 6, attitude 8
She picked Mandy. This was disappointing. Mandy wasn’t bad, but she was older and not as hot as some of the other girls. She was at least in her late 20s and was German. She was in pretty good shape, but her tits weren’t firm and she just didn’t have that youthful firmness. I had thought that such a young and beautiful girl like Susana would pick another similarly beautiful girl. Performance-wise everything was fine. They kissed each other and went down on each other. But Mandy wasn’t a top girl and I couldn’t stop thinking about how good it would be if I had Susanna together with another young girl.
Afterwards we talked about some of the girls I had been with and I said I liked them all. For some reason they didn’t like Angela, the first girl I had gone with. I had noticed that Angela was more often by herself, and she sometimes smiled at me or tried to get my attention, which I think was not allowed, so maybe that bothered them. But Angela had been good to me and I said so. The conversation made me uncomfortable since the girl I had been least happy with, and only because of her appearance, not because of anything she could control, was Mandy. Anyway, it had been a great day, with two lesbian sessions, but each one had room for improvement. I was determined to come back and get it right.
Susanna, Poland, 23?, looks 10, attitude 8
The next day I arrived in the early evening and was excited to see that Susanna had told the truth; she was back. She was from Poland. She was short and had a perfect figure with beautiful firm natural medium sized tits. Her hair was reddish blonde and shoulder length. I asked if she was still interested in me and she said yes. I started to notice that there was a script, with a little talking before the kissing started and then gradually building up to sex. When she began kissing it was nice, but she preferred to sword fight with her tongue rather than to kiss with her lips, and I didn’t like this as much. She blew me for a couple of minutes and then suggested we go to a room. I asked for a couple more minutes of blow job and she said ok. In the room she was nice. The kissing was always the sword fighting, but everything else was great.
After than I decided to try for a two girl session. I would have liked to get Susanna to do one, but I didn’t know if she was into it and she was the best looking girl in the place, so I didn’t want to risk putting her off by asking her to do something she might not like. So I asked Zabina. Zabina wasn’t really any less hot than Susanna, she had a classic German blonde look with long hair down to her shoulders and a nice figure. She seemed a little friendlier and maybe more open to unusual experiences than Susanna. I never really clicked with Susanna, even though I liked her and picked her several times. There was something about her personality that I just didn’t get.
Zabina, Germany, 25?, looks 8, attitude 9
Yvette, Slovakia, 19?, looks 8, attitude 9
When I suggested a threeway to Zabina she thought it was a great idea. I asked her to pick another girl and she picked Yvette. Yvette looked nice, but I had passed on her because she had a stiff manner and short boyish hair that I wasn’t crazy about. Other than that she had a perfect figure and a nice face, and I later wondered why I cared so much about those other little things.
The couch time was a double thrill, with two girls servicing me in front of everyone. In the room I splurged for a lesbian session, which was quite genuine. It included kissing, pussy licking, and even p2m from Yvette's pussy to Zabina’s mouth. I finished inside Zabina while she was kissing Yvette. I had never done anything like this before with European girls. I couldn’t understand why every guy in this place wasn’t doing exclusively threeway sessions. I even asked Zabina afterwards why everyone did mostly one on one sessions and she said that the threeway sessions were expensive. Maybe, but they were new to me, so I was willing to pay anything, and I couldn’t understand why everyone else didn’t feel the same way. I asked Zabina if anyone ever had sex on the circular bed in the middle of the main room and she said yes. I asked her if she did it and she said yes. I asked her if she would do it with me and she said yes. I asked her if she would be there tomorrow (I was too tired that night) and she said yes. But it didn’t end there. She asked me if I didn’t want to do two girls on the circular bed in front of everyone and I said sure. So we made a date for the next day.
Six years ago I knew nothing about FKKs. I had seen internet reports, but didn’t know whether to believe them or not because they were so glowing. I had been to Amsterdam many times, to Patpong in Thailand, and Rio, so I had some idea of what good and bad experiences were. I had a rough sense that quality dropped fast when one got away from the developing world, so I was skeptical that one of the worlds most developed countries would offer good value for sex. I got a hotel in Koln and drove to Babylon using maps I had printed out on Yahoo. I had no GPS and found the highways and feeder roads out of Koln to be maddening.
I arrived at about 3 in the afternoon and my spirits were lifted when a couple of beautiful naked blonde girls answered the door. Inside the place looked far cleaner and more luxurious than I had ever seen in this industry, and there were several pretty girls in addition to the nice ones who had answered the door. The manager told me the pricing system and recited a list of what they offered. I wondered what each of these individual services cost and how they were negotiated. When she mentioned condoms I erroneously understood that contrary to what I had read on the internet bbbj was not offered at this FKK, so already I had reason to doubt the reports I had read.
I took a seat and observed. A girl came and asked me what I wanted to drink, putting me on my guard for extra charges. I took a chance and accepted it since I had come a long way and unless the reports were dead wrong I was going to spend some considerable time there. The drink was of course free.
It was still early. There were only a couple of other clients and they weren’t going to the rooms with girls. I must have looked bored and the girls must have been puzzled because I sat still in the same spot for about 2 hours. But inside my head my mind was racing, looking for any sign that might help me calculate which girls would be nicer, which ones would be ripoffs, and which ones might be convinced to offer the magical bbbj or cim that I had read about (though it seemed from my introductory talk that these services weren’t available here). Now when I go to clubs I can be relaxed about how my visit will go because I have already gotten scores if not hundreds of bbbjs from beautiful girls all over the world. I have had hot 18 year olds suck me to completion and let me cum all over their tongues. I have had them make love to each other and then to me. I have done gangbangs. But back then I had been almost entirely unsuccessful in living out porn star fantasies (other than with girlfriends, where the wildness is usually limited) and I was skeptical that they could be found anywhere in Europe with any regularity. I had found cim a couple of times in Amsterdam, but it was never offered up front. I was hungry for experiences.
Then my life changed. In front of me a guy began talking with a nice tall girl with long frizzy reddish brown hair. She had a great chest and was one of the better looking girls in the room, though certainly not the best. Finally I was going to get to observe a negotiation. If only I could hear and understand what they were saying so I could know how it was done. The prettier girls are sometimes the more difficult ones, so I wondered how well he would do with this hot girl. She began kissing him, and I quickly sprang to attention to see how this would progress. She wrapped her arms around him and they started deep French kissing. They hadn’t even gotten to the room yet. She was reaching under his towel and stroking his dick, which was rock hard. Even in Rio I had never seen action like this. The towel fell away as she started climbing over to embrace him fully and kiss him more deeply. Then she knelt on the sofa and went down on him in front of everyone! They were doing it in front of the entire room! And most exciting of all, he wasn’t wearing a condom! I was holding onto my towel tight to try to keep my own hard on from being too obvious. It was pretty clear which girl I wanted to go with. I wondered now how long it would be before she returned. A wild gem like this might get taken for the rest of the night.
She left with her client and the waiting game began again. Now there were a few more men in the club and one of them sat next to the prettiest girl there. To my amazement the same drama unfolded. She talked with him, then began making out, and then went down on him without a condom. Still, these girls could be two exceptions, but when a third girl did the same I caught on that maybe this was the norm. Suddenly I realized that all the time I had just spent watching and calculating had been wasted. The entire lineup bad been wide open for hours and I had missed the opportunity. Now I wanted to be part of this. There were still several beautiful girls around who I was definitely interested in, but now it was after 6 PM, the club had filled up with guys, and the best girls all had someone sitting next to them. Now, after all that waiting with all the girls completely available, everyone was busy.
Angela, Hungary, 26?, looks 7, attitude 9
Well, not quite everyone. Angela was not one of the very top beauties, but she was definitely pretty. She was from Hungary. She had dark hair and a full chest and a nice face. She wasn’t completely thin, but still had a nice figure. I was disappointed not to be starting out with one of the knockouts, but I was definitely excited. I nervously sat next to her and she started to talk with me in a relaxed and friendly way that immediately put me at ease. Talking led to kissing and, like the other girls, she went down on me without a condom, and in front of everyone. I had never done sex like this in public before and I thought it was great. She asked if I wanted to go to the room and I suggested doing it right there, but she said no. So we went to the room.
In the room there seemed to be no restrictions. She kissed me like she was my girlfriend and did any position I wanted. I asked her if I could cum in her mouth and she said yes, but that it would be 100 DM extra. That was fine with me, and not only did she suck me off to completion, but she swallowed it. Afterwards I expected that she would want to finish up right away and get back to the room where she could make more money, but she stayed and talked with me for a long time. When we were done talking I showered, went back to the main room, and a couple of minutes later she came up to me with a concerned look on her face and said it wasn’t 100 DM for cim, it was only 50 DM, and she was sorry for the mistake. The price had actually declined after I had agreed to give the money! I had never heard of this happening in Europe.
Anya, Poland, 19?, looks 8, attitude 9
Now that my eyes had been opened I was eager to continue. But still the very best girls were all occupied. I picked Anya, a Polish girl with golden blonde hair who wasn’t too far from being one of the top girls. Once the session started I realized how young she was and how smooth and youthful her skin was. Same formula; kissing and bbbj in the main room, and then we went off to a private room for hot sex. I came in her mouth when we were doing 69 and I expected to pay extra, but afterwards I was told that I didn’t have to pay extra just for cumming in her mouth. Only if she swallowed it was there a surcharge! When we were done it was getting late. I saw one of the beautiful girls available and went over to her, but she was about to leave. I asked if she would be returning the next day, however, and she said yes.
Gentlemen. I have written up some of my past experiences from several years ago. Here is a report on my first ever visit to an FKK club back when Babylon was possibly the best club in Germany. It might not be helpful to mongers who want to know the current conditions on the ground, but it might give some interesting perspective on what has changed and what has stayed the same, or it might just have some entertaining stories in it.
If you like it let me know. I have several old reports on Germany that I can post on various branches if you are interested in the past.
Writing this stuff up is fun. It brings back memories. In addition to racking my brains I looked up credit card receipts, ATM withdrawals on bank statements, and boarding passes to piece together this narrative. I’ve recaptured a lot of memories that had been lost, and each time a memory of a girl returns it is almost like scoring her all over again. I’ve also learned from past mistakes and successes. I did this as much for myself as for my readers and I recommend to others to do this. I hope you like it.
Yes, Babylon used to be a great spot. My first FKK visited in 2000.
I understand your nostalgia but I don't thing that old reports on Germany
interest a lot of people (sorry for my frankness). IMHO, readers on this board look in priority for fresh information and precise details on the actual girl to identify them when they visit the club.
Vicifranck
Hey Catalyst,
Many, many, many thanks for that stroll down memory lane!!! Babylon was the first real FKK that I visited way back in the day. I somehow never count Dolce Vita.
These names like Yvette, Suzi, Tanya, Sabrina, Mandy, Anita, Shirina, Anja, NINA!!!, and Pia make me nostalgic for the old days when this was THE PLACE in Germany for horizontal refreshments of the best quality. I was thinking of Babylon during my last visit to Palace. There was a girl working there who I was trying to place as I am certain that I had seen her before. She was a little heavy-set and looked as though she had some years in her face. Not old, but no longer in her early twenties. I finally realized that this was an older and heavier version of Pia that I was looking at. Gone is that girlish figure and that teenie face, but those sad yet mischievous eyes were still there. I almost approached her just to confirm my suspicions, but I let it pass. I am sure that it was her though. She was hanging out with a bunch of girls who usually work the Köln/Düsseldorf club scene.
Mandy was working at Oase for a time. I would often see her there on Tuesday nights. Nina, who was one of my all-time favorites just stopped after about a year and a half of working. Yvette stopped working there shortly after that big raid that nearly closed the place down. I never heard the whole story, but she was not welcome there anymore. Neither the management nor the other girls had anything nice to say about her. Sabrina got a straight gig. I even saw her once at her "real" profession. We had a slightly uncomfortable moment at first, then later just started smiling and laughing to the bewilderment of some other who were around. We were both pretty certain that our other "encounters" need not be shared in THAT company. She was my second session at Babylon and the one who showed me around the place. I will never forget the sight of her and Tanya, wearing nothing but high-heels and a smile, meeting me at the entrance that afternoon.
One of the oddest session that I ever had was in the downstairs area one night with Pia. I had been a somewhat regular at Babylon for nearly 2 years by then and Pia and I had never had a session together. I was chilling out after a sauna and she was relaxing by the fireplace. All of a sudden some older gent collapsed on the stairs and the paramedics were called. Pia and I were the only ones downstairs and we were sort of trapped down there until the paramedics could move this guy. He was large and this was going to take a while.
We started talking and I remember making some harmless jokes about the poor slob having to explain this to his wife. That got a laugh out of her and I made an offhand comment about what a waste of time this was for both of us. She looked at me with those mischievous eyes and before I knew it we were practicing the art of 69 in front of a "his and her" paramedic team and a barely conscious, overweight, German senior-citizen. At one point while I was on top of her and the female paramedic made some wise-assed comment, Pia looked over in her direction and told her something along the lines of What do you expect from me? The old bones is beyond the type of help that I can provide."
I actually had to stop the humping because of the laughing attack that I had.
We did finish the session and I think that the old man was actually OK, so there was no harm done by our "irreverent sexual escapades." Never had another session with Pia. That one was just too hard to top.
Thanks again, Catalyst! If Babylon ever again becomes what it once was, then lets go there together and relive some fine, old memories. Nostalgia ain't what it use to be.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Babylon was once upon a time the place to visit.
It was so good I used to book a hotel nearby and make it a point to visit it several times during each trip.
I also have a collection of reports written about Babylon from the good old days.
Funny you mentioned Pia's name. She is still active at Samya. She's just as irreverent as before, still funny, put on a few pounds, still "ungeschminkt" as the Germans say.
She's very much an acquired taste.
I traveled with Mark from Toronto once and he told me of an encounter he had with her at Wiago late one evening when nothing was going on.
It was close to closing time and she asked him to go down on her as she hadn't had an orgasm all day. No charge at all. And so he did.
The one woman at Babylon who I can still picture clearly is Nina. She was just amazing: nice face, nice figure and a nice person.
When she quit there was an all points bulletin put out on the Roemerforum. Rumor was that she hooked up with Arabian princes living in the south of France and they take care of her now.
There are guys out there who like me still think of her from time to time.
Hey Jacko,
When I finally recognized that it was Pia I was seeing at Palace, I was wondering to myself if I too had changed so much. She was there with a few others from Samya (Laura with the "Joker" Tattoo and a few other faces). I will never forget her running around Babylon one warm, summer day with a large water-pistol, attacking unsuspecting dudes.
Nina: That was a special one!!!
Nina told me often what she wanted to be doing when she finished her FKK experiment. I am not sure if she ended up realizing her dream but I am pretty sure that it did not involve being a kept women by a member of the Saudi Royal family. Who knows though. She was indeed charmed by swarthy middle-eastern types. Of course this was when she was not being swept of her lovely feet by a dashing young American ;-))))
I remember being part of that all-point bulletin when she stopped and that was also about the time that I switched my loyalties to Oase and PHG. It was hard to venture through Babylon's door's knowing that Nina would not be there. Plus Oase is just closer for me to get to and I was eventually able to find solace in beauties like Maria, Melanie, and Mirijam (not all at once, though.)
Still, Nina was in a league of her own.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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I understand your nostalgia but I don't thing that old reports on Germany
interest a lot of people (sorry for my frankness). IMHO, readers on this board look in priority for fresh information and precise details on the actual girl to identify them when they visit the club.
Vicifranck[/QUOTE]
Dear Vici,
If and when Babylon restores itself to her former glory, then you will get bucket-loads of new info from nostalgic old fools like Catalyst, Jacko and myself.
Until that days arrives, please allow some of us veterans a bit of harmless reflection.
Cheers to the good ole' days,
Dedalus, who more than lives in the present tense on the Palace, World and Oase threads
Dear Dedalus,
Catalyst ask if, us, readers are interested in the past.
Yes, for nostalgic reflections like Jackyo wrote (rumor on the old stars....yes its interesting.)
No, for the reload of old reports
But you can do what you want, I m not the boss :)
Cheers
Vicifranck
dude, come on. you have not posted at all, and then the first thing you do is you lean into a senior member for producing a write-up :(
there is no harm in the reflections of catalyst. in the rio section he posted a string of them that was so good that i made them reports of distinction. many of us have similar old memories. it may be therapeutic for catalyst to write this all down (it is for many of us when we write our reports :)), but it is also interesting to read for many of us and reminds us of similar feelings/fears/trepidations/elations/... we had. plus, the insight into the human condition that catalyst mentions are often timeless and shoudl be of great help to the novice.
soooo ... let's just relax and enjoy the read.
euro
Thanks for the support guys. I love hearing the updates on the girls. Check for more of my reports on other branches in the coming days. I'll spread them out over time so you don't get bombarded with everything at once.
Jakyo, I'll bet I'm not the only one who would love to see those old reports of yours.
Vici, don't worry; I don't think you meant it in a bad way. Some people seem to like these old reports, so maybe those who aren't interested can just skip over them. I'll be sure to mark them as "classic".
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Jackyo, I'll bet I'm not the only one who would love to see those old reports of yours.
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I used to have my own website until my Internet service provider pulled the plug on me (something about indecency). Thats where I used to post.
Since then I've posted on the Roemerforum as I've gotten the most value from reading their content while researching trips.
DAY 1 - Babylon (Days 2 and 3 are on the Berndt's and Oase branches)
After a moderately successful visit to Oase on my last FKK trip I decided to return to Babylon. The selection was good when I arrived and there was one particularly beautiful girl who stood out. I asked a couple of other girls if they wanted to have sex on the round bed in the middle of the main room and they both said no. I didn’t ask the beautiful girl because I wanted to see what the other girls’ reaction was first. Pia, who I had seen on a previous visit was there. She remembered our session from a while back, smiled, and said “he likes doing it in the main room. Are you sure you want just one girl?” She also said she could tell me which girls would do this, and when I asked about the beautiful one she said yes.
Jasmin, Germany, 23?, looks 9, attitude 9
Her name was Jasmin. She was German, with wavy golden blonde hair to her shoulders and a great figure. We had a nice session right there on center stage. I was nervous, not with stage fright, but wondering if everything would go the way I wanted. Other than the nervousness it did. If I wanted to nitpick I could complain that when I spooned her she didn’t turn around and kiss or even keep her back against my chest, but she kissed and had a good attitude. The prettiest ones aren’t necessarily the difficult ones.
Verona, Germany, 25?, looks 8, attitude 10
Next I did Verona. She is a nice German girl with long straight blonde hair down well over her shoulders. I don’t think she had been working long at that point, though she stayed on for years afterwards (and put on a few pounds). We also did it on the center bed in the main room, and it was a nice long session with lots of DFK.
Janine, Poland/Pakistan, 25?, looks 8, attitude 8
I couldn’t get any more girls to do it in the main room with me after that. There were three more good looking ones that I had to get to before I left. Janine was a tall skinny slinky girl with long straight black hair. One of her parents was Polish and the other was from Pakistan. I think I remember her saying she was 25, which was older than she looked. We went downstairs to the big mattress in front of the fireplace and had a nice session with lots of kissing, but I couldn’t finish.
Lucy, German, 19?, looks 7, attitude 6.
Next up was Lucy, a beautiful young German girl, who was 18 or 19. She had soft wavy brown hair and a little baby fat. She was the most reluctant kisser and by far the least engaging of the girls I saw. We also did it in front of the fireplace downstairs.
Nina, German, 24?, looks 8, attitude 8
Nina, a German girl, tall with short wavy blonde hair and nice big tits, wouldn’t do it in the main room or even in front of the fireplace. She insisted on going to a room, though oddly in spite of her shyness we went to one of the multiple bed rooms and she left the door open. It was a perfectly nice experience and it was great to have my fifth girl in one day.
At some point during this visit I had a revelation. When I was not having sex I was sitting still in a large room staring at the same naked girls and some chubby strangers. I had nothing to do, read, or watch, and no one to talk to beyond some brief chitchat with a girl who wouldn’t want to waste much time with me if I wasn’t going to do a session with her. For the first time ever I realized that this could actually get boring. On my first visits this never occurred to me because my mind was always racing, thinking about how to act, who to pick, how to negotiate, ... But now I had the system mostly figured out. There was nothing to keep my mind busy during the dead time between sessions. It occurred to me that some the girls might be bored out of their minds.
When I left four of the five girls were called over to say goodbye to me. (Janine was busy.) It was wild to have so many girls who I had just banged hugging me and telling me how much they wanted to see me again. Most of them gave me a small kiss, but Lucy made a bit of a show of kissing me like a real girlfriend like she had never come close to doing in our session together. I didn’t push her away or anything, but I could see what she was up to and I tried to have a what the hell is this all of a sudden reaction for the manager to see.
Oase
This was the first time I had seen Oase since they expanded the club by adding the second room with the dancing pole. I was eager to have sex in one of the main rooms and I asked a nice blonde girl if she would do it.
Heidi, Hungary, looks 8, attitude 8
Heidi is beautiful with wavy blonde hair to her shoulders, a thick frame with a flat stomach, and a full chest. As soon as I picked her and was committed I realized that she was the grumpy girl that I had been with a year before and had been unhappy with. But this time she was nice. We did everything on one of the big sofas by the large passageway between the two main rooms. It was nice enough that I decided that she was worth spending extra on and doing cim, so I asked and she said it was ok, but she wanted to go to a private room for that. It actually worked out well since we got restarted again so it was almost like having another mini session. After a year of practice she had learned how to make guys happy. It’s exciting to see someone improve their skills so dramatically.
Maria, Russian, looks 8, attitude 7
I had also seen Maria before once. She was beautiful with a Russian face and Russian style fluffy wavy blonde hair. She had a wide frame, a flat stomach, and a great chest. She came up to me while I was on the sofa closest to the bar and I asked if we could do it there, to which she said yes.
It was pretty nice, though she hammed it up a bit too much. I started to take a while and I can’t remember if she said anything or not, but I eventually called it quits because I thought I might want to go back to her later so I didn’t want to take a long time. (Afterwards I thought about it and decided that I hadn’t really taken long at all, but she had made me feel like I had, so I decided not to go with her again after all.) But it was really sexy doing it right by the entryway with everyone passing by.
There was another nice girl with black hair who came by right afterwards as I was sitting in the same spot and asked me if I wanted company, but I told her I needed some time to rest. She came by again a little later and said something I didn’t understand, but it sounded insistent and I was slightly put off. I still wanted her, though, and just when I decided I was ready for her I couldn’t find her and I realized she had been telling me that she was about to leave. I later regretted not going with her right away. It could have been great to do two girls one after the other in rapid fire succession on the same sofa.
Name?, German, 28?, looks 5, attitude 5
So I looked around for someone else and didn’t see anyone nice. I started to panic, wondering if the good girls were all leaving early, like on my last visit to St. Augustine, and if I needed to grab what I could before it was too late. In my hurry I picked a bony girl with long stringy blonde hair that I wasn’t crazy about. I got her to do it in on the sofa in the main room, but she was unhappy about it. She was quiet and shy and it wasn’t her thing. She didn’t kiss and was a zombie. We mostly did spoon since I didn’t want to face someone who was going to turn her head away from me and not kiss. I regretted picking her. Doing it in public is no fun if the girl acts like she is ashamed of what you are doing. I didn’t waste a pop on her either.
Name?, Russia, looks 6, attitude 4
I wondered if I was done for the evening. But I at least wanted to hang around and watch the life in the club. After a while I saw a tall thick girl with long black hair who looked alright. She agreed to do it on the sofa in the main room without the dancing pole. She blew me for a long time and I think she was trying to make an extra 50 by getting me to finish early in her mouth. I thought it was a trick and I was glad that I had had so much sex during the past three days that finishing was going to be difficult. I enjoyed an extra long and enthusiastic blow job and turned her trick around to my benefit.
When we started having sex things went downhill. She wouldn’t kiss and was crabby. She started asking me how much longer I was going to take. I responded by trying to drag it out. After I had been banging her for a while I started to perspire and she acted disgusted when a drop of sweat fell on her. I ignored her and banged away a while longer before finally letting her off the hook. Whenever I passed by her after that we ignored each other.
Melanie, German, 26, looks 10, attitude 10
The two bad sessions in a row got me down, but most of the girls had not left early as I had feared. Then I saw a gorgeous girl who I hadn’t noticed before the entire day. I have since seen Melanie mentioned on this board, so she is known. She is a classic thin sexy blonde with an hourglass figure. We had sex in the main room on the sofa against the wall separating the main room from the bar. It was great, with lots of passionate kissing, 69, different positions, and finishing with missionary and cim, all in front of everyone. When I finished I asked “why haven’t we been doing this all night?” and that made her smile.
Alex, Bulgaria, 23?, looks 7, attitude 9
Alex is tall and not super thin, but she has a nice face and a sweet personality. Her long jet black hair gives her a southern European look. We did it on the sofa in the middle of the main room near the bar. I wasn’t able to finish, but she never complained or made me feel rushed. The whole time she was friendly and relaxed. She was always smiling. I liked her a lot.
Melanie (again)
I was pretty spent after that. But it was my last night and I wanted to try to cram in one more session. The club didn’t close until 5 AM, and it was about 4 AM, so most people had left and the girls were lined up against the wall by the entrance in front of where I was sitting. Now that I could see all the girls that were available until the very end I realized that I should have been more patient earlier when I picked the bony girl. I signaled to Melanie and we did another round on the sofa with all the girls watching in a row like audience members. I remember having Melanie in reverse cowgirl, looking Alex right in the eye over Melanie’s shoulder as we were doing it, and Alex turning red from embarrassment.
I was completely worn out and couldn’t pop, so I thought maybe I should try cim since that would be easier. I was out of euros and asked Melanie if I could pay in dollars and she said ok, but then after pulling off the condom and jerking for a while I could see that even if I succeeded I wasn’t going to be enjoyable, so I gave up. At least I knew I had pushed myself to the max. I had seen six girls, had convinced every one to have sex with me in one of the main rooms, and didn’t have a drop of sperm left by the end.
Babylon
Babylon was my introduction to FKKs so I’ve always been sympathetic to it. I arrived for the first time in over a year and what I saw did not make me happy. Weren’t FKKs supposed to have girls? I saw a room with several guys sitting around the perimeter and no girls (or there might have been some unattractive ones that did not show up on the radar).
Yvette, Slovakia, 21?, looks 7, attitude 7
After a good wait Yvette, who I had seen there a couple of years before, walked in. She was still very young, but the intervening two years showed. She wasn’t overweight, but she had lost her teenage slenderness. She was still very friendly, but I thought I noticed a more businesslike or mechanical attitude, probably reflecting two years of this work. We went upstairs to a room and it was fine. We did cim, but I didn’t really get off on it since she closed her mouth around me completely and I never saw any of it. She spat it out into a paper towel and said “that was a lot”, which made me regret not having spilled it all over her mouth and chin (as I remembered doing a couple of years earlier). Babylon still had its premium price structure then, but the session wasn’t any better than at one of the big clubs with the normal price structure.
Verona, Italy, 25?, looks 7, attitude 10
The wait after that was unbearable. There was only one other girl there who was doable, and whenever she returned from the room she went directly to her next customer. There was a line for her and I had no idea how many people were in it. She wasn’t even super hot. It was Verona, who I had seen a year earlier. She was nice, but not spectacular, not quite what she was the last time I saw her. On the positive side, she wasn’t just processing guys to get through as many as possible. I could see that she was taking very good care of them to keep them as repeat customers. It was good to watch, but it was frustrating that she spent so long with each one while everyone was waiting. When she disappeared she left a room full of bored and frustrated guys staring at each other, and when she came back there were a few moments of soon to be dashed hope before she joined her next regular. I probably waited for her for more than two hours.
When it finally was my turn, though, she treated me like a regular. She came and put her head against my shoulder like she was lonely and wanted me to comfort her. I didn’t know if she remembered me from a year earlier. She didn’t say anything. I asked her if we could do it on the circular ottoman in the center of the room and she said yes. At this point there were a couple of other girls there, including Yvette, so I got to perform for a mixed audience. When we started spreading out our towels one of the girls asked in German something that must have meant “what are you doing there?” and she responded loudly with a big smile “sex!”
She had a nice figure, but she had put on some weight since the last time I had seen her and I wondered if she wasn’t near the end of her FKK career. She was still shapely and she still had her nice long blonde hair. Once we got started I forgot about the wait and everything was good. We kissed passionately and had a long session with lots of different positions, ending with cim. After we showered she cuddled with me for a while. Then she moved on to the next guy and I could see that the public sex idea had caught on because he got her to do it with him too. I watched them, and then for me there was nothing left, so it was time to return to Sudbad.
Sudbad
When I arrived I was a bit taken aback. All of the girls were sitting at the bar and there wasn’t a single guy in the place. It seemed unnatural. I got a drink and went to sit by myself. It might have been fun to talk to the girls, but my German is not great and I thought that they might not want to struggle through it if I wasn’t about to go to the room with someone. Also I like to hang out and warm up by watching the action in the main room first. An hour or so later guys began showing up and the club quickly got crowded. I was told that there had been a big football match going on that had just ended.
Anita was there again, and I also recognized Sammy who I had seen months earlier at St. Augustine and had had a pretty good session with. So I decided to do a threeway with lesbian action. But they told me that lesbian was double the price, which I knew it wasn’t (it was extra, but not double), and rather than argue and maybe get the management to force them to do lesbian action for less than they thought they should be able to overcharge me for and then have them be cranky about it I decided to just do a plain two girl session.
Anita (again) and
Sammy, German, 26?, looks 5, attitude 5
We went to the bed in the main room next to the bar. It was mechanical. It lasted for a long time because I wasn’t going to be able to finish quickly. At one point I asked to change positions, saw them look at each other, and I could see they were wondering how much longer is this going to go on. Sammy really wasn’t nearly as cute as Anita and on top of that was much more impatient, maybe because she could tell that I didn’t like her as much. After a while she wouldn’t kiss anymore. So I devoted most of my attention to Anita and finished inside her. It actually got easier to finish once I started ignoring Sammy.
I hung out for a long time after that. I wanted to do another session, but never managed to adequately recharge my batteries. There was a nice girl from St. Augustine who I talked to. I tried unsuccessfully to convince her to have sex with me on the sofa in the main room, but she would only go to a private room and I wasn’t interested in that. Anyway she had been drinking a lot – some guy had been buying champagne and drinking it with her – and she didn’t feel well. I also talked for a while to a Romanian girl who didn’t meet the aesthetic requirements for a session, but who was friendly. When I left the woman at the desk said something like “oh, you only did one session” (even though I had been there for a long time). She wasn’t unfriendly about it, but it annoyed me since she had seen me several times at St. Augustine and knew that I was a good customer who usually took many girls.
Berndt’s
I hadn’t been in Bernd’s for a long time and after seeing several other clubs I had forgotten how small the main room was. I was worried at first about the selection. There was one super gorgeous girl who I asked to have sex with me in the main room and she said no, so I passed on her since I wanted to do that first. There didn’t seem to be much else, however, and I was wondering if I would be leaving early for Sudbad, which I knew I could get a free pass to since it was under the same management.
Sarah, Tunisia, 26?, looks 7, attitude 6
Sarah had long frizzy black hair and a sexy figure with a face that was nice but not quite as good as her body. She said we could have sex on the sofa. I also asked if we could do cim and she said it was an extra 50 euros. This didn’t make me happy since I knew that it was 25 euros extra here (sessions were already 80 euros, more than in most other clubs) and sometimes it was free. So I said no way and she said ok how much. I said 25 and she said no, so I said forget it then and then she changed her mind right away and said ok. So it was fun, but she was professional about it. She kissed just enough I think so that I couldn’t say she didn’t do it.
Maria, Cz, 19?, looks 10, attitude 8
Maria was the gorgeous one. She was tall with long straight fluffy silky brown hair. She had a perfect athletic figure. She looked like a supermodel. She is one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen in a club in Germany. We went to the room and had straightforward sex, but she was so sexy it couldn’t have been better. She kissed, but not passionately. It didn’t matter. I was surprised how much of a difference it made to be with a girl like that hot.
I relaxed for a while, exploring the club (which doesn’t take long) and having a few drinks. I struck up a few conversations with other guys. One asked me where I worked an I said I didn’t want to say because my employer would be unhappy if he knew I was there. He pointed across the room and said “I don’t have that problem; that’s my boss over there.”
Gina, Thailand, 24?, looks 7, attitude 10
Gina was probably the only girl left that I was interested in. She was a tiny skinny Thai girl with typical straight black hair down to her shoulders and a flat chest. We started kissing and decided to stay in the main room where we went at it for quite a while. I didn’t finish, but still it was nice. She was totally friendly and passionate and did everything I wanted. I liked her, but when it was over I thought I had done the club for that night, so I went to Sudbad in Koln.
Sudbad
St. Augustine had just closed and it was on the way to Sudbad, so I drove past just to take a look and verify with my own eyes that it was indeed gone forever. When I arrived at Sudbad, I recognized the woman at the desk who had worked at St. Augustine and we smiled at each other. I wondered if maybe I had found it again at a new location. The club was small, but opulent, with red velvet everywhere including on the bar and on the big plush sofas, and with roman columns and statues. There was a bed right in the main room next to the bar.
Anita, Hungary, 22?, looks 8, attitude 6
I even recognized some of the girls from SA. (I had also noticed a couple at Berndt’s too.) There was also a nice new Hungarian girl named Anita, who had straight shiny reddish brown shoulder length hair. We did it on one of the big red sofas in front of the public bed. It was fine, with some kissing, but after all the sex I had had at Berndt’s I couldn’t finish, and she seemed impatient to get rid of me.
There was another nice girl with frizzy black hair that covered her shoulders. She told me before we started that normally she would do bbbj and kiss me, but she couldn’t then because she had some infection or other problem with her mouth. I thanked her for being honest and said that I would see her another day when she could give me 100 percent.
Gentlemen,
Here is another historical report on several clubs, including Babylon. I have two more historical reports on Germany, which I will post here since this branch is not very active. This will minimize the distractions from current reporting on other branches.
.. but she grew up in the Ruhr somewhere so her German is very good. She is blonde, petite, with large real tits. She has a beautiful pussy with large lips. Very wet.
She was there the last time I was there (the time I was double billed and swore I'd never go back).
There is another blonde, Laura. She is German, tall, thin, small tits. She is a Rheinlander who used to work as a hairdresser until she became allergic to the chemicals and decided to change professions. She also has very large pussy lips. Very wet too.
The last time I was there, they were part of their first team.
The other women were kind of recognizable but obviously didn't make enough of an impression on me.
Shirina, unfortunately, has retired and now works as a Thenkenfrau.
I've had good times at this club but unless I read reports about it changing, I'm staying away. That double billing episode left a very sour taste in my mouth.
This was a one day only trip to Babylon and Beverly. This is mostly a blow by blow account without so many jokes or stories, but I might as well post the full set of reports:
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Babylon
I only had one day in Germany on this trip and I wanted to try Beverly. So I thought I would get started early with a visit to Babylon, which is nearby and is more of a daytime club, so the two visits would complement each other nicely. When I arrived the selection was not great, particularly compared with the larger clubs that I had gotten used to. Feeling tired and jet lagged I sat around for a couple of hours.
There was a gorgeous blonde girl and a nice girl with short wavy brown hair. I asked the beautiful blonde if we could do it on the circular bed in the center of the room and she said no. I waited and then went over to the nice brown haired girl. She was lying on a sofa segment that jutted into the center of the room and I asked her if we could do it there. She said yes.
Stella, Croatian, 21?, looks 7, attitude 7
We had a nice round right there in the main room. There weren’t many people around, though, since they had mostly gone to rooms together. That was fine because after a long time going at it we did a nice cim that maybe she wouldn’t have wanted to do if the room was full. She said she was going to shower and would come talk with me afterwards, but I didn’t see her after that.
Laura, German, 20? looks 9, attitude 8
After having done it in the main room I was willing to compromise with the gorgeous blonde. She had very long straight soft silky hair and was tall and slinky. We went downstairs by the fireplace. She was warm and friendly and she was so hot that I came in about two minutes. I joked with her about how long I took with poor Stella.
Li, Philippines, 25?, looks 6, attitude 8
I wanted to do one more round before going. There was a thin girl with frizzy black hair who wasn’t bad, but she was with a guy just hanging out, not even going to the room, so I gave up. I picked a nice Philippine girl who was not bad and would have been great except that she was a little heavy. We did it on the circular sofa in the middle of the room. Once we got going I looked up and the guy and the frizzy black haired girl were doing it on the sofa right in front of us, and right next to them Stella was going at it with another guy. Li looked up at me with a smile and said “it’s nice, isn’t it?” After a long round with her I finished in her mouth and then hurried up to go to Beverly.
Beverly
The club is in the middle of nowhere, but it is at the end of a long winding road and there aren’t many wrong turns you can make. I had to buy a pair of their black underwear since I didn’t have anything appropriate of my own to wear. I wandered around and after a long while I saw a nice black haired girl and an ok blonde doing a couple of guys. I was envying the guy with the black haired girl when the blonde invited me over and started blowing me. But I wasn’t really into her and when the black haired girl finished with her guy she looked at me and at the risk of being rude I switched to her. At first I thought these were regular girls, but now it think it is more likely they were being paid, so I don’t feel bad about dumping the blonde.
After that I was pretty worn out. I went to the dance floor and got into a suggestive dance with a tall girl with long frizzy black hair who didn’t look bad, but I didn’t pursue her. If I were feeling more energetic I would have, but I didn’t want to get started and then have to lamely explain in broken German that I’m sorry, but you are my fifth girl tonight, so it’s not your fault, but etc ... So I hung out a little longer and then left.
Janaka
This day I knew what I wanted. I went straight to Janaka and had another great time with her. I thought of taking her up on her offer of inviting another girl, but there weren’t any girls I had been with that were good enough to pair up with her, and I had run into some duds and didn’t want to risk a 200 euro or more session on an untested girl. I was feeling worn out after three days and I knew I could take my time with Janaka, but another girl might start whining that I was taking too long. Plus I could do it with Janaka in the main room.
We did it on the sofa against the back wall of the main room by the entrance to the kino. I especially remember doing reverse cowgirl with her while she twisted around to kiss me. Afterwards we went back to the kino for cim and more conversation. It was another great session which might or might not have been more than a half hour. I’m sure she wouldn’t have said anything if I had only paid her for a half hour plus cim but I gave her 150 again anyway.
Ileana, 27, German , looks 7, attitude 4
I probably should have done Janaka again, but I was feeling limp and I didn’t want to be struggling to finish with her. I knew that she would put in a huge effort and probably make me cum in her mouth. Then I’d end up spending another 150 euros, and my costs were already out of control for these three days. There were still some cute girls that I hadn’t yet gotten to even if they weren’t as cute as her.
Ileana said she’d do it in the main room near the reception, but then was argumentative about it after we started. We went to the sofa which was hidden by the plants in the back and after a short bj she sat on me facing me. But she kept demanding to know why I wanted to do it there; meanwhile she wouldn’t kiss, so it wasn’t that great anyway. She wasn’t enjoying it, no one could see us anyway, and even if they could they would see only the lukewarm spectacle of a poor punter being given a difficult time by a whiny girl. I thought maybe she would warm up in the private room, so I gave in.
Well, it didn’t get any better. We went to one of the rooms by the pool and she was very thorough about making sure the entryway was sealed off tight so no one could catch the smallest glimpse inside no matter how hard they tried. There wasn’t anything exciting happening that anyone would care to see anyway, but she knew I liked doing it in public, so I think she needed to eliminate any possibility of anyone catching a passing glance at two heads or a bobbing back because her goal was to prevent me from deriving any enjoyment at all from the session. She still wouldn’t kiss, and we were in more of a hurry than before. I thought getting started again would make it last longer, but it didn’t. Even though it was lousy I popped since this was my last session. I regretted not having seen Janaka.
Maybe I should have saved that pop and gone one more time with Janaka, but money was getting to be a concern. After finishing with Ileana I even considered doing a 50 euro session with Janaka just cuddling, not having sex. I left on the early side, in time for dinner. I was worn out and wanted to try relaxing at the end of my last day and reflecting on the good times I had had instead of cramming the maximum amount of sex into every single day. It was a nice way to end my trip for a change, but I think I prefer the usual strategy.
i arrived around lunch time, before many of the girls had showed up. i remember first noticing janaka in the warm sunshine when they served the barbecue outside in the garden. she is a cross between a california girl and the girl next door. she is small with sandy blonde hair, a few freckles, a shy smile, and an absolutely perfect athletic killer body. i got something to eat and made a mental note to give her something to put in her mouth after she was done eating and there was more room in it.
janaka, 22, poland, looks 10, attitude 10
after a snack and some wandering around i went inside to look for action. she showed a half hour later and sat on one of the sofas in the main room near the bar. i was nervous that i would freak her out, but i asked if we could do it right there on the couch. she asked if we could go to the couch against the far wall in the back of the room and i said fine. we were hidden by the ferns that divided the room, but we were still visible to anyone who came back there or who sat by the wall in the main area.
she was wonderful and sweet. she kissed nicely, and everything was hot and real. as i started building to a climax i asked if i could finish in her mouth and she said sure. she was so beautiful and this was so perfect. i wanted it to be just right. i was like a nervous bride on her wedding night. i pulled out and made a mess all over her mouth and tits and she did nice cleanup afterwards. it was amazing.
looking back, i’m not sure why i went with anyone else after that. i wanted variety and wondered what other fantastic women i might meet if my luck could be this good, or maybe i didn’t think i had another big pop in me and i didn’t want to struggle to finish with this supermodel; i wanted to save her for when i was fully charged.
leticia, 23, german, looks 7, attitude 5
so i tried leticia. she had a voluptuous slutty busty anna nicole smith look. she had thick wavy black hair and a bit of extra fat, though it was all in the right places. i was wary when she told me she was german. she didn’t want to do it in public and the rooms inside were all too hot because of the weather, so we went to one of the cabins outside.
she started with a powerpoint presentation. she explained to me that sex costs 50 euros, but it is possible to upgrade with additional services, including cumming in her mouth. cumming in her mouth costs an additional 50 euros. if i want to cum in her mouth i have to decide now. did i want to cum in her mouth?
i said no and got ready for the mechanized experience that i knew was about to take place. the sex was as commercial as her presentation. there was no kissing and it was unemotional. i could tell that i wasn’t going to finish quickly and after a short while i decided to stretch it out and get my money’s worth. also, since i am no longer 18 years old, i decided not to waste any valuable cum inside her that i could instead deposit all over the mouth of some more willing and beautiful girl.
when it was over i didn’t complain, but i was cool. she asked me if i was dissatisfied and i said no. she looked at me nervously and said that she had the feeling that i didn’t enjoy it. maybe she was just worried that i was going to complain to the manager or trash her on the internet, but i was hopeful that she was genuinely surprised and disappointed that i didn’t like it.
so i told her i had a suggestion for her. i told her that if you tell a guy “here’s how it works. sex costs 50 euros, but it is possible to upgrade with additional services, including cumming in my mouth. cumming in my mouth costs an additional 50 euros. if you want to cum in my mouth you have to decide now. do you want to cum in my mouth?” he will say “no” ... if you tell a guy [spoken softly, touching her arm] “ ... i love you ...” he’ll say “can i cum in your mouth? i’ll give you an extra 50 euros!”
so i rested for a while, had a bit to eat, and got back to business.
janaka (again)
after a bad session i wanted a sure thing, so i went back to janaka. she was happy to do it in public again, but she wanted to go into the second main room with the dancing pole since there weren’t as many people there. we sat on the sofa in the center of the room, directly in front of the dancing pole. we chatted, kissed, fondled, and did oral sex on each other. she put a condom on me and just as she sat on me in cowgirl the show started. the room went dark, the music suddenly blared, the strobe light came on, and a girl came out and started dancing right in front of us as people streamed into the room. the dancing girl wasn’t very cute, but we were right in front of her and everyone was watching us; we were the real show (or at least janaka was). so moving to a more secluded area to have more privacy didn't work out so well for janaka, but i thought it was great.
we had a great time in different positions and again i wanted to finish in her mouth. but blasting all over her tongue in front of a room full of people seemed like it might be pushing it. if you have hot sex with a girl in front of everyone that is great publicity for her, but some guys get turned off if they see you finish in her mouth because they don’t want to kiss it after that. so i suggested we finish in the kino and she agreed. in the kino she went wild on me. i was still worn out so i was having trouble finishing and even suggested giving up, but she would have none of it. she blew me and blew me and finally i came all over her mouth. we talked a bit without her cleaning up, and then she blew me some more.
we stayed and talked. she thought being at the club was just work most of the time, though once in a while it was fun. she said it was a problem between her and her boyfriend. i asked her if it was hard for her when she went home to her boyfriend and had been having sex all day and now he wanted sex too and she said no, more sex was always good. we both agreed that the porno videos that the club showed – blurry bargain basement films with ugly ageing women swinging droopy grapefruit-sized blobs of silicone at fat middle-aged men grunting and sweating while having awkward and crass anal sex – were distasteful and it was incomprehensible that a club that spent so much on its facilities would show such disregard for everyone’s sensibilities to save a few euros on dvds. i asked her if she liked having sex with two girls and she said yes, then smiled and stuck out her tongue and wiggled it. when she said it was time to go we had probably been together for more than an hour, though she never mentioned extra time or extra money. i gave her 150 and she seemed quite happy.
stephania (again)
i had experimented with leticia and regretted it, and not many girls would do it in the main room, so i went back to stephania who had been pretty good the first time. but this time it was close to a rip off. maybe it was more crowded, so she had more to gain by rushing me, or maybe she thought she could take advantage of me because i stopped the previous session without finishing. the bj lasted about thirty seconds and after about 5 minutes she was complaining that i was taking too long. i ended it pretty quickly without finishing. i regret not complaining that i wanted a full session. after that i was pissed off and had no intention of ever going back to her.
katya, 23, russia, looks 7, attitude 7
it was late and i was looking for one last round. katya had the usual russian look with very fluffy blow dried blonde hair. she didn’t have an hourglass figure, but she looked athletic and sexy. we did it on the sofa in the main room next to the entrance to the kino. she acted distracted and not really into it, but it was fine. afterwards we chatted and she told me that she was there by herself with no friends or family. her parents were divorced and it sounded like she was alone and had nowhere to go. it all sounded very sad, and i didn’t think she was playing it up to get sympathy. on the contrary she seemed reluctant to talk about it and i had to draw it out of her.
i arrived at oase early on a warm sunny afternoon eager to have sex in the main room in front of everyone, but wary about how the girls would react to the request. pretty quickly girls started approaching me with come-ons, including a nice looking estonian girl with black hair, but i turned her and a couple of other nice ones away. i wanted to start with public sex and i was going to turn down a girl who said no to the request. i figured the girl wouldn’t like this, would argue that i should take her to the room, and it might be hard to go back to her if i didn’t. so i didn’t start by asking the best girls. i started by asking girls that i could afford to turn down and risk offending if they said they would only go to the room.
isabelle, 27?, poland, looks 6, attitude 4
isabelle fit that description. she was not bad looking, with wavy light brown hair and decent c cups. she came on with an aggressive sales pitch and agreed right away to the request. we got right down to rushed business. she kissed some, but wasn’t very warm. it was hot sex in front of everyone, though. at one point when we were going at it in reverse cowgirl the estonian girl passed by and made some remark that i didn’t catch, but she was angry that i had picked someone else, someone who wasn’t even as good looking as her no less. soon isabelle started to complain about how long i was taking. it wasn’t superb so i decided that it would be better to save my load for someone better and i agreed to stop. afterwards we were total strangers.
now that i was warmed up my next target was a tall girl with short dark hair. i went and sat next to her and asked if she wanted to do it right there. she got excited and told me i was crazy, so i smiled and got up. but then she came over to me a minute later and told me that her friend would do it. her friend was better looking than her anyway, so that was great.
stephania, 20, germany, looks 7, attitude 6
stephania had a pretty face with long wavy dark blonde hair but a flat chest. we sat together on the sofa in the corner opposite the kino and the bar. she was very friendly and open, with good kissing. we started in cowgirl and then i put her down on the large red sofa and banged away. after going at it for a long time i told her that i didn’t know how long i was going to take and i wanted to see her again later, so i didn’t want to take too long and make her want to avoid me. so we stopped. she asked me to come to her before i saw other girls next time so i would finish with her and she would enjoy it more.
i went out to the garden and passed the estonian girl sitting on one of the benches by the exit from the pool. she said she’d do me right there if i wanted. it actually sounded like a pretty good offer, but i wasn’t sure i wanted to try again right away after not finishing with stephania, and maybe i was also put off by her tone, which was harsh, even angry.
a while later i saw her on the sofa in the main room near the bar. she was with an older guy and she got down in front of him to blow him. i sat on a sofa facing them and watched. it was slow and nice, with pauses to move up and dfk him. she periodically looked over at me and smiled, though i wasn’t sure if this was meant as a friendly sales pitch or a taunt. the guy had a huge idiotic smile on his face like he couldn’t believe what was happening. after 20 or 30 minutes i was sitting in the pole dance room when she peeked in. i got up to go ask her if she wanted to go with me, but she had already walked out. i followed her past the bar, past the pool, and into the garden. when i asked her if she was free she said sorry she was busy though she clearly wasn’t. she needed an attitude adjustment. in spite of being beautiful she didn't seem to be spending a lot of time in the rooms. i wonder what it was like with that older guy once he got to the room with her; did she turn to ice when i was no longer watching?
sammy, 27, german-hungarian, looks 7, attitude 6
i asked a few more girls to do it with me in the main room and didn’t have great luck. sammy smiled with embarrassment when i asked but agreed. she had a thick but fit figure with neck length black hair and freckles. we sat together on a sofa against the wall dividing the room from the kino. it was disappointing that she wouldn’t kiss, but other than that major drawback she had a pretty good attitude. we did it for a long time before i decided that i couldn’t finish. afterwards she would give me a big mischievous smile whenever we passed each other.
jasmine, 22, german, looks 8, attitude 9
jasmine was slightly overweight, but otherwise looked super sexy. she had a beautiful face with short straight golden hair. i sat with her and asked her if we could do it right there on the sofa and she said yes. she was great. after a long bj she sat on me and we went at it for a while in cowgirl before i laid her down on the big red sofa and got on top of her. the deep kissing was great. unfortunately i still couldn’t finish and after a good while i called it quits.
sunny, 20, german/brazilian, looks 7, attitude 9
sunny was small and thin with small but nice breasts. she had frizzy red hair that looked unnatural, particularly in combination with her olive toned skin. she wouldn’t do it in the main room with me, but she was fine with doing it in the kino. we sat on the sofa by the door where everyone could see us anyway except that it was darker than in the main room. we had nice sex with lots of kissing and different positions. we ended up with me on top of her and after several sessions without finishing i pulled out and exploded a whole day’s buildup all over her mouth, making a total porno mess all over her face and tits. it was great.
The debate is now moot. Everything I've got on Germany has now been posted. The next report will be a current one. Hopefully it will be soon.
Just another reminder - these are not reposts of old reports. These are reports of old experiences, but I only wrote them up recently and this is the only time they have ever been posted.
I hope on balance people appreciated seeing them, that there weren't too many of them, and that the past has some lessons for the present. If I had it to do over I would post them all on one inactive thread for those who are interested without spreading them out and creating distractions on other threads.
Since this thread isn't being used, let me describe post-coital time for those of you who never had a chance to visit Babylon in its heyday.
When I keep complaining about how service levels aren't what they used to be the disappearance of post-coital time is mostly what is lacking.
A session at Babylon back then had three parts: pre-session couch action, the session and post-coital time.
Pre-session couch time and the session in the room don't need to be described. At clubs these days the pre-session is just about disappearing but that is another topic.
After you had your session with your partner at Babylon, you both would leave the room to shower. When you made your way back into the Kontaktzimmer she would find you, ask you if you wanted something to drink, would bring it to you and with sit with you.
Depending on how well you got along with her in the room, she would either just sit and make chitchat and then eventually move or if your chemistry with her was really good, you could have fairly intensive contact with her.
If she found you entertaining and vice versa, and there was nothing going on in the club, these sessions extended your overall session.
I've given massages at post-coital sessions.
Sandra brought me chips once after a session and as we munched I redid her pubic hair coiffure and displayed the results to the rest of the room.
Some guys were real masters at making this post-coital session last and last. Sometimes guys forget that they are women and they like to be charmed and entertained too.
The post-coital session has totally disappeared. There are no clubs which offer it. Not even Bernds offers a post-coital session which is an equivalent.
I used to think it was a nice touch and it is what had me returning to Babylona and Wiago despite the highest prices per session in the country: 80 Euros for the first thirty minutes, 65 for the second thirty minutes.
These two clubs were required stops for every visit I ever made. But no longer.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]Since this thread isn't being used, let me describe post-coital time for those of you who never had a chance to visit Babylon in its heyday.
When I keep complaining about how service levels aren't what they used to be the disappearance of post-coital time is mostly what is lacking.
A session at Babylon back then had three parts: pre-session couch action, the session and post-coital time.
These two clubs were required stops for every visit I ever made. But no longer.[/QUOTE]
Ah, Nostalgia ain't what it use to be ;-)))
Cheers,
Dedalus
[QUOTE=Dedalus]Ah, Nostalgia ain't what it use to be ;-)))
Cheers,
Dedalus[/QUOTE]
Before all of the buzz about clubs down in Hessen, the buzz used to be about the Red Carpets.. then it moved to Babylon and Wiago... then PHG was the rage... and then Atlantis (now defunct) and Oase were the place the be.. and there was even a time when Fantasyland (now defunct) was probably the best club in all of Germany.. then World opened up.
Clubs have their day and then something either better comes along or they have their missteps.
The only club which has been consistent through all of this whole time has been Bernds. And if anyone were to make a prediction, in thirty years Bernds will still be there.
Hey,
I will be around Frankfurt for Christmas (23.12-01.01)
Someone around?
I wonder if the FKK is open or if there is action in some sexy places.
Drop me a pm and we catch up.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]Since this thread isn't being used, let me describe post-coital time for those of you who never had a chance to visit Babylon in its heyday.
When I keep complaining about how service levels aren't what they used to be the disappearance of post-coital time is mostly what is lacking.
A session at Babylon back then had three parts: pre-session couch action, the session and post-coital time.
Pre-session couch time and the session in the room don't need to be described. At clubs these days the pre-session is just about disappearing but that is another topic.
After you had your session with your partner at Babylon, you both would leave the room to shower. When you made your way back into the Kontaktzimmer she would find you, ask you if you wanted something to drink, would bring it to you and with sit with you.
Depending on how well you got along with her in the room, she would either just sit and make chitchat and then eventually move or if your chemistry with her was really good, you could have fairly intensive contact with her.
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The reason PC time existed in the past was because many customers would use that time to relax and then start another session with the girl. It was in the girls interest to spend some time with you instead of hunt for another customer. I remember at Atlantis some guys would have multiple sessions with the same girls. There was a girl named Sia who had a boyfriend who would spend the entire evening with her. He would spend at least 400E each session. With that enducement, you can see why PC time exists. Now, it is more of a churn and burn atmosphere.
[QUOTE=Dick1]Hey,
I will be around Frankfurt for Christmas (23.12-01.01)
Someone around?
I wonder if the FKK is open or if there is action in some sexy places.
[/QUOTE]
In answer to your question, this is what Devilinside had to say about Christmas and early January at the beginning of this year in answer to a similar question posted on the RF.
[quote=Devilinside] also in der weihnachtszeit, sowie zwischen den jahren, neujahr und meist auch noch in der ersten januarwoche ist doch wohl von jedem mit gesundem menschenverstand denkendem mann, zu erwarten dass er weiss dass auch in den grossclubs erheblich weniger frauen am arbeiten sind.
auch wenn es manche nicht glauben wollen, auch die meisten unserer mädels haben familie und wollen + sollen diese tage auch ausserhalb der so von uns geliebten clubs geniessen dürfen.
das wird sich auch die nächsten jahre nicht ändern.
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Devilinside
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Summary: It is to be expected that at Christmas, between the years and the first week in January that there be fewer women working. Some of you might not believe it but most of these women have families and would prefer to spend that time outside of our beloved clubs.
Reports written on World at the end of last December also talked about how there were fewer women there than normally.
There are two Ex-Babylon girls who I have run into at other clubs:
Samya: Pia, German, blonde, large tits, mollig. I remember her from back in 99 during my first visit there. I've also spotted her at Wiago. Very communicative. She has an attitude, can be extremely funny. An acquired taste though and probably too much for a newbie or non-German speaker. Typically ungeschminkt.
Bernds: Monika, Hungarian, dark hair, beauty spot near her lips (on her face! - forget which side), petite. The first time I saw her I thought she might have been Brazilian but she isn't. First seen at Wiago. Great service and attitude. Fitting into her is like finding the right glove size: nice, warm and cozy.
This was my favorite club for the longest time.
I don't know whether this RF report is indicative of an upswing hence I put it in quotes from its author, 2sepp.
[quote=2sepp]
[Bericht] Babylon Elsdorf Positive Überraschung
Da es am Freitag im GT absolut zu voll war (nicht mehr lustig, unerträgliche Wartezeiten), bin ich mißmutig nach Köln zurück.
Also auf die A61 und nach langer Zeit nochmal im Babylon in Elsdorf vorbeigeschaut.
Erste Überraschung schon am Eintritt. JAQUELINE + Claudia, die Besten und lustigsten Thekenfrauen der Welt sind wieder da. Scheinbar ist auch Maggi, die den Club in seinen besten Zeiten geführt hat, wieder da.
Zweite Überraschung beim Eintritt in den Club: nachdem in letzter Zeit das Niveau des ehedem Besten Clubs im Großraum Köln doch etwas angegraut und abgesunken war, erblicken meine Äuglein nun eine auf mindestens 10-12 geschätzte Zahl wunderschöner Mädels, darunter einige ganz besondere Schüsse... Es muß wohl vor kurzer Zeit einen Besitzerwechsel gegeben haben...Superstimmung, gutes Essen. Superservice meiner beiden Mädels (50 €). Preis ok. Die sind auf dem richtigen Weg zu alter Pracht. Mein Abend war mehr als gerettet!! EMPFEHLENSWERT!!!! [/quote]
Fazit: Jacqueline and Claudia (I know exactly who these two are) are back and apparently, Maggi, the former owner is back. There were from ten to twelve stunners there. He speculates that it has to do with the change in ownership. The Stimmung was great, so was the food. Pricing was 50 Euros per session. He highly recommends this.
(I should note that this dude doesn't have many posts under his belt - don't know if this means anything but credibility is everything.)
[QUOTE=Jackyo]This was my favorite club for the longest time.
I don't know whether this RF report is indicative of an upswing hence I put it in quotes from its author, 2sepp.
(I should note that this dude doesn't have many posts under his belt - don't know if this means anything but credibility is everything.)[/QUOTE]I'm still trying to figure out exactly where to go on my next trip and just read this review. I wish it were closer to the Frankfurt area because it fits with my plans but I could easily spend some extra time up by Koln if this club was really outstanding. You posted this on 2/4 and I guess it came from a German board? If this club was that good wouldn't there be some other posts since then confirming? If you happen to see anything else on it please post it.
Thanks.
[quote=chicafan]i'm still trying to figure out exactly where to go on my next trip and just read this review. i wish it were closer to the frankfurt area because it fits with my plans but i could easily spend some extra time up by koln if this club was really outstanding. you posted this on 2/4 and i guess it came from a german board? if this club was that good wouldn't there be some other posts since then confirming? if you happen to see anything else on it please post it.
thanks.[/quote]
... are, however, not to be found.
this club was [b]the club[/b], imho, for a while as it had a very well edited selection of women.
i'll just mention one name here: nina. i've not met a woman since who has even come close in both physical beauty and in attitude.
it has had its problems: allegations of drug use amongst the women. an **** minor was found working there and it was closed for a while. its ownership situation has been murky.
i always made it a point to go even despite the fact that it charged the highest per session rates around (85 euros for the first session) because i always left satistifed. service was very, very good - comparable to bernds - and the women were always very attractive.
what changed things for me was being double billed once. i paid but i don't put these things aside and i am taking my revenge by not returning.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]
I'll just mention one name here: Nina. I've not met a woman since who has even come close in both physical beauty and in attitude.
[/QUOTE]
Yep, Those were the days. That young lady caused me to put many extra Kilometers on my vehicle and drain a number of D-Mark from my bank account.
Truly one that is missed. Many have come close and a few have even equaled her at times. But with all due respect to Cindy, Marina, Maria, Inna and Daniela, none have surpassed her.
Cheers,
Dedalus
After driving to Monchengladbach in the early AM, I tried unsuccessfully to find FKK Babylon in Elsdorf. I ended up getting lost and with no GPS I was losing valuable time. So I headed towards Dusseldorf with no address hoping to find either La Bedo or Sauna Blue Note. After getting lost in the city, I ended up paying a taxi driver to drive towards Blue Note since he didn't know where La Bedo was. See my report on Blue Note.
Anyways, if someone gets a chance please do report on FKK Bablylon since I couldn't find the target. Website is at babylon-fkk.de
[QUOTE=Hamboner]Anyways, if someone gets a chance please do report on FKK Bablylon since I couldn't find the target. Website is at babylon-fkk.de[/QUOTE]
... to get an update too though it will take a lot to convince me that its worth returning.
This club is quite easy to find.
You come off the highway, pass under it and up on the left is a sign "Gewerbegebiet". Make a left and at the traffic circle take the first right. At the next traffic circle make a left and you will be on their street, Ost Strasse. Its a house on the left towards the end of the street.
I was reading somewhere that there has been a(nother?) change in management.
[url]http://www.privatclub-babylon.de/[/url]
They've renovated the site and have photos of some of the girls.
The only one I have been with is Laura: blonde, German from Olpe (if I remember correctly).
She is tall, has hardly any curves and small tits.
She has very large Schamlippen. I also remember her being very wet and creamy.
Can anyone confirm if the Liliana in Babylon is the same girl who worked in Bluenote and Wiago?
Can anyone confirm if the Liliana in Babylon is the same girl who worked in Bluenote , Labedo and Wiago?
[QUOTE=Sesameking]Can anyone confirm if the Liliana in Babylon is the same girl who worked in Bluenote , Labedo and Wiago?[/QUOTE]
.. I was asking myself too when I saw her photo.
I would like to know myself!
Can anyone give the price structure for the place and also guide how to reach the place by public transport from Koln or Dusseldorf.
It's not easy to get too by public transport. When you do you will find a whole new set up. For example this Wednesday they have a GB party for 50 euros, that's after you've paid the 50 euro entry. Thursday is hunt the bunny day and entrance is reduced to 30 euros, free for anyone who turns up in something resembling a bunny costume (pair of ears?). New or rather revitalised management makes the place worth thinking about again. They have a totally new website as Jackyo points out. Normal price is entrance 50euro, standard once around the block 50euros. the site tells you what the girls will do as extras. My advice is to ring the number on the site, as the lady who runs it probably speaks English.
[QUOTE=Marlow]It's not easy to get too by public transport. When you do you will find a whole new set up. For example this Wednesday they have a GB party for 50 euros, that's after you've paid the 50 euro entry. Thursday is hunt the bunny day and entrance is reduced to 30 euros, free for anyone who turns up in something resembling a bunny costume (pair of ears?). New or rather revitalised management makes the place worth thinking about again. They have a totally new website as Jackyo points out. Normal price is entrance 50euro, standard once around the block 50euros. the site tells you what the girls will do as extras. My advice is to ring the number on the site, as the lady who runs it probably speaks English.[/QUOTE]
.... and then let us know how it is these days.
Jacqueline is normally the woman who takes your entrance fee at the door.
If not, Shirina does. She used to work the other side of the counter, now has changed sides.
I have a friend who gets very weak in the knees when you mention Shirina's name.
She was (and still probably is) very, very good though it may take some doing to convince her to change her job description. She has officially retired.
[QUOTE=Marlow]Thursday is hunt the bunny day and entrance is reduced to 30 euros, free for anyone who turns up in something resembling a bunny costume (pair of ears?).[/QUOTE]
Those ISG pink bunny slippers should come in just fine once more.
[QUOTE=Sesameking]Can anyone give the price structure for the place and also guide how to reach the place by public transport from Koln or Dusseldorf.[/QUOTE]
.. from Koeln or Duesseldorf is rather difficult.
I looked into it since I used to visit very often.
Details on transport are available on the Verkehrsverband Rhein-Ruhr website:
[url]www.vrr.de[/url]
There is a bus which takes you to Elsdorf but I've never figured out which bus stop to get off at. Worse comes to worse, get off at the Stadtmitte and take a cab.
Thanks guys.. hopefully will get time to visit the place later this month.
Prices seem a little higher as compared to my fav BN and Labedo but then again everything has a price and i hope the place justifies its price structure.
This comes from Youppie and was written by Bou just yesterday.
[quote=Bou]suite à l'EV positive et les belles photos j'y suis passé vendredi dernier vers 19 h 30 - 20 H
Le club en soit est bien sans plus mais alors au niveau présence féminine collosal catastrophe : à l'arrivée 3 filles - à 20 h : plus que deux
J'ai attendu +/- 1 heure, le temps d'un sauna et d'un petit repas et ne voyant rien sortir de chambre ou arriver : j'ai demandé à la barmaid combien de filles fréquentait l'établissement
Elle m'a répondu un peu génée : ben pour le moment deux -il est un peu tard
normal vendredi 20 h alors que le club affiche une fermeture à 1 h du mat
Normallement en journée entre 6 - 10 filles
Fallait le savoir
Merci un coca svp et départ pour d'autres cieux[/quote]
[i]Sommaire[/i]: He was there last Friday between 19:30 and 20:00. There weren't enough women. He waited more or less an hour, did the sauna, had something to eat. He asked the Thekenfrau how many women there were and she said only two. The club closes at 1 AM on Friday evenings. Normally there are between six to ten women. He left for greener pastures.
[QUOTE=Sesameking]Can anyone confirm if the Liliana in Babylon is the same girl who worked in Bluenote , Labedo and Wiago?[/QUOTE]
.. works here.
This is from Teddybaer on the RF.
[quote=Teddybaer]Ansonsten kann ich aus eigener Erfahrung nur Lilijane und Melanie empfehlen.Mit beiden hatte ich im Wiago das Vergnügen.
Lilijane ist Ukrainerin ? mit aufgepeppter OW und geht sehr gut mit.[/quote]
He also recommends Melanie.
This in response to query about public trnasport to babylon in elsdorf. This info is about 4 years old, from when Babyon was in its hey day.
Take train from Koeln HBF to Horrem (yes, that's really the name of the place)
When you get off the train, you will see another train parked in the distance to the north. Join the crowd of people who will be walking from one train to the other across an empty lot.
Get on the second train and get off at Elsdorf. Once I got to Elsdorf, I couldn't figure out how to do the rest by public transit, so I called a taxi.
NB: Before you leave the Horrem Station on your outbound journey, check the Abfahrt to learn the time that the last train leaves there for Koln in the evening. As I remember it was about 0030, but could be different know, otherwise you will pay an expensice cab fare back to Koeln.
On my return trips, I took a cab from the club to Horrem HBF and then the train back to Koeln.
Coxswain
[QUOTE=Coxswain]This in response to query about public trnasport to babylon in elsdorf. This info is about 4 years old, from when Babyon was in its hey day.
Take train from Koeln HBF to Horrem (yes, that's really the name of the place)
When you get off the train, you will see another train parked in the distance to the north. Join the crowd of people who will be walking from one train to the other across an empty lot.
Get on the second train and get off at Elsdorf. Once I got to Elsdorf, I couldn't figure out how to do the rest by public transit, so I called a taxi.
NB: Before you leave the Horrem Station on your outbound journey, check the Abfahrt to learn the time that the last train leaves there for Koln in the evening. As I remember it was about 0030, but could be different know, otherwise you will pay an expensice cab fare back to Koeln.
On my return trips, I took a cab from the club to Horrem HBF and then the train back to Koeln.
Coxswain[/QUOTE]
Thanks CS!
I've pondered this topic for a while. I know there is a bus which goes to Elsdorf. What I've not figured out is which bus stop is the closest to Oststrasse.
I even went for a drive in the town once to try to figure this out but didn't conclude anything.
There is a Busbahnhof there. There is also an Arnoldusstrasse (or Schule) bus stop.
As this was my Stammclub for the longest time (and where I came across Nina), this club will always be on my watchlist.
Hope this is of some help to folks making the journey to Babylon in the hope of finding a cornucopia of delights, then go to their German page via freiermagazin.de. click on PLZ5 (postal district) and then on the club, and then the webpage in small type. Some great pictures taken by one Tom and the current dates of when which girls will be in the club and also what they do. Whether the club under the newly inspired management actually lives up to the promise of the webpage - let us all know, please.
[QUOTE=Marlow]Hope this is of some help to folks making the journey to Babylon in the hope of finding a cornucopia of delights, then go to their German page via freiermagazin.de. click on PLZ5 (postal district) and then on the club, and then the webpage in small type. Some great pictures taken by one Tom and the current dates of when which girls will be in the club and also what they do. Whether the club under the newly inspired management actually lives up to the promise of the webpage - let us all know, please.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Marlow.
Those two photos are of Liliane.
Their website, by the way, is [url]http://www.privatclub-babylon.de/[/url]
Laura and Verona are still there, I noted. Photos of Laura are available, none for Verona though.
And if anyone is interested in just how good Liliane is, here is a report from the RF by Ford Fairlane.
[quote=Ford Fairlane]Hallo,
durch zufall habe ich erfahren das Liliane nun im Babylon zu finden st, das liegt zwar nicht wirklich in miner Nähe aber Liliane war schon immer eine Reise wert.
Nun der Club selber ist nicht der schönste was die Einirichtung und aufteilung angeht....
Die an diesem Tag anzutreffendne Damen Mitte dieser Woche) waren zuerst nicht (für) mein Ding, ca 4 Damen im Hause.
Kann nicht sagen wer das war da ich nu wirklich keinerlei interesse an ihnen hatte...aber nach ca 30 min erschien Liliane auf der Bildfläche. Also nicht lange gefackelt sondern gleich zu ihr auf das Sofa... wir haben uns kurz unterhalten (2min) da setzte sie sich auf mich und dann gab es wunderbare feuchte ZK, sie zog ihr Oberteil aus und lies mich an ihren Titten saugen und stöhnte nett dabei, dann ging sie auf die Knie und fing an heftigst, tief und feucht im Clubraum an zu blasen...ich dacht oh-ha einfach so vor allen Leuten...aber was soll ich sagen es war einfach zu geil...nachdem sie meinen Kumpel mit dem Mund so richtig nett verwöhnt hatte gabe es noch eine feine spanisch einlage von ihr und war kurz vorm platzen...sie griff zu ihrer Tasche und ich dacht es geht aufs Zimmer, falsch, sie zog mir ein Gummi über und ritt mich mit allem was ging, sie stöhnte, sie verbog sich, streckte sich um nach 10 min laut stöhnend zu kommen (keine Ahnung ob das echt war, aber es war sehr geil)...als sie sah das ich noch nicht soweit war meinte sie nur was sei sie doch für eine Schlampe nahm mich mit und sorgte rittlings auf dem Zimmer für eine erste entspannung meinerseits.
Nach einer kurzen Pause fing sie wieder an zu blasen, wieder sehr tief und feucht, sie leckte alles was ihr vor die Zunge kam, sie massierte mich anal und blies dabei bis ich nochmal kam....wow...was für eine Stunde..
Fazit: Der Club gefällt nicht aber die performance von Liliane...wahnsinn. Laut der Homepage arbeiten dort noch mehr sehr nette Mädels, von denen war aber leider niemand vor Ort. [/quote]
Fazit: There were about four other women there but Liliane was the reason why he had gone to the club. They talk for a couple of minutes and then they have couch action. She gives him a BJ on the couch and reaches for her bag. He thinks its because they are going to a room but no, she puts a rubber on his dick and rides him on the couch for ten minutes in front of everyone until she comes (he has no idea if it was for real but it was really sexy) and only after that did they go to a room to take care of his release. He isn't a fan of the club facilities or the way its set up (I think its perfectly fine. I first visited in 99 when they used to have a pool downstairs). The website shows some really nice women but apparently the selection on that day wasn't his thing.
In my experience, there aren't many clubs where the women will just ride you right there on the couch in full view of everyone else. I've seen (and experienced it) at Babylon, Bernds and a couple of Red Carpet clubs.
Jackyo
the sting is in the tail of Ford's report, namely that none of the girls listed on the website (outside the one he had) were there. With some searching through the Freiermagazin site I did come across photos of Verona at another club. I suspect there's a link up between Freiermagazin and Babylon in terms of ownership or partnership.
[QUOTE=Marlow]Jackyo
the sting is in the tail of Ford's report, namely that none of the girls listed on the website (outside the one he had) were there. With some searching through the Freiermagazin site I did come across photos of Verona at another club. I suspect there's a link up between Freiermagazin and Babylon in terms of ownership or partnership.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like they play "bait and switch" here.
I'll keep a look out for further reports on how things are.
I spent many whole days here observing female flesh, learning about female anatomy and the niceties of FKK club etiquette (yes, there is such a thing).
Would be nice if this club would make a comeback.
This is from Flahute on the RF.
He was there on Wednesday and then again on Thursday.
So many of these reports to read, so little time particularly to do translations.
[quote=Flahute][Bericht] Meine Premiere im Babylon, Mi. + Do.
Liliana, Sie ist oder war der Grund für meinen Erstbesuch im Babylon.
Letzte Woche schaute ich mir die Homepage an und sehe Ihre Fotos.
Die Frau hat ein bildhübsches Gesicht, ich suche ob ich Berichte über Sie finde und werde auch sehr schnell fündig.
Sie hat schon einige Stationen hinter sich und stets wurde Ihr Service gelobt.
Okay, dann erweitere ich mal meinen Horizont und plane in bälde einen
Ausflug nach Elsdorf. Das sind von mir leider 125 km.
Diese Woche Dienstag schaue ich noch mal auch die HP des Clubs und sehe die Neuzugänge Estefania und Domenica.
Bildhübsche Frauen die das Herz eines Optikfixierten Paysex Konsumenten
wie ich es nun mal einer bin höher schlagen lassen.
Mittwoch habe ich Zeit, Liliana und Domenica sollen anwesend sein.
Die Homepage ist im übrigen sehr schön gestaltet, Informativ und mit einer tagesaktuellen Anwesenheitsliste ausgestattet.
Die Mädchen sind zum aller größten teil mit Fotos
vertreten und Ihr Servicespektrum wird ebenfalls gelistet.
Am Mittwoch vergewissere ich mich um 13.30 Uhr telefonisch ob Liliana und Domenica auch tatsächlich anwesend sind.
Yes Sir, Sie sind da. Schön, dann kann’s ja losgehen.
Im Hinterhof geparkt und dann um Einlass gebeten. Mir wurde geöffnet und ich outete mich als Erstbesucher. Nachdem ich das Startgeld, man nennt es auch Eintritt, in Höhe von € 50,- abgedrückt hatte wurde mir von einem Mädchen der Club gezeigt.
Vorher entledigte ich mich allerdings in der Umkleide meiner Alltagsklamotten, sperrte diese in den Spind und band mir ein Handtuch um meine Hüften.
Unten, wo die Umkleide ist, sind auch 2 Saunen, eine Dusche mehre Sofas und Couchen und es geht zur Terrasse die bei gutem Wetter genutzt werden kann. Zu diesem Zeitpunkt war unten allerdings nur leere. Wie ich spä*** feststellen konnte spielte sich, zumindest an diesem Tag, fast alles eine Etage höher ab.
Dort hin ging es dann. Ein großer Tisch mit mehreren Stühlen, demgegenüber das Essen, eine Bar und eine große Sitzlandlandschaft in U Form und inmitten eine Liegestätte wo ich auch sogleich die erste öffentliche Action in Augenschein nehmen konnte. Ganz oben sind die Zimmer und auch noch Duschgelegenheiten.
So, nachdem ich nun die Räumlichkeiten kennen gelernt habe bestelle ich erstmal ein Wasser.Alkoholfreie Getränke sind im Eintrittspreis inkludiert, Bier kostet € 3,- extra.
Ich suche mir einen Platz in der großen Sitzgruppe und erkenne auch sogleich Liliana. Die Frau stahlt eine Erotik aus, klasse. Leider ist Sie bereits mit einem Handtuchträger beschäftigt. Ich schaue mir das mal an, aber dieser Gast bevorzugt die Abgeschiedenheit eines Zimmers und so entschwinden die beiden. Mir ist allerdings bereits vorher ein anderes Mädchen aufgefallen. Blonde, schulterlange Haare, blaue Augen und ein sehr hübsches, natürliches, unverbrauchtes Gesicht. Ich setze mich zu mir, Sie heißt Nora.
Ein bisschen Small Talk, Sie lacht sehr gerne und hat schöne weiße Zähne.
Wir kommen uns näher, erste Küsse. Ich streichle über Ihren Körper.
Nora ist nicht gertenschlank, aber alles fest. Ihre Ausstrahlung und Ihr Gesicht
haben es mir angetan. Ihre Hand wandert unter mein Handtuch und es dauert nicht lang da kniet Sie vor mir und verwöhnt mich mit ihrem Mund.
Das macht Sie richtig gut, Sie fährt mit Ihrer Zunge meinem Schwanz entlang und schaut mich dabei mit Ihren blauen Augen an. Ich finde es mal geil mich so auf der Couch verwöhnen zu lassen, zumal Nora wirklich weiß was Mann gut tut.
Irgendwann ist aber der Punkt erreicht wo ich Ihr sage das ich gerne mit Ihr auf’s Zimmer gehen möchte.
Nora sagte mir vorher das Sie erst seit einigen Tagen im Paysex aktiv ist, wie mir schien hat Sie vorher aber schon Intensiv privat geübt.
Ich binde mir mein Handtuch um, was aber ziemlich ausgebeult ist. Wir gehen die Treppe hoch in eines der Zimmer. Das Zimmer ist durch eine Wand geteilt die an der Seite einen etwa 1 Meter breiten Durchgang hat. Neugierig wie ich nun mal bin schaue ich erstmal was auf der anderen Seite so los ist, da ist aber scheinbar gerade Halbzeit.
Wir beginnen da wo wir auch bereits unten begonnen haben.
Eine detailierte Schilderung erspare ich mir mal,
schließlich wisst Ihr ja alle selbst wie’s geht.
Nora hat sicht und hörbar Spaß am Sex und das kommt sehr authentisch rüber.Sie ist sehr fordernd, Küsst Intensiv und gut, lässt sich lecken und fingern.Beim Verkehr hält Nora sehr gut dagegen und ist wie bereits geschrieben fordernd und auch nicht die leiseste. Ich war hochzufrieden mit meiner Wahl.
Nach dem Duschen habe ich mich erstmal in die Sitzlandschaft begeben, was getrunken und mich ein bisschen umgeschaut. Mittlerweile waren ca. 7-10 Dreibeiner im Haus. Und es waren auch etwa 10 Mädchen da. Mir besonders gefallen hat neben Liliana und Nora auch Laura. Sie hat einen schönen Hardbody und ein Gesicht das mich ein wenig an eine ex Kollegin erinnert. Dann kam Domenica rein, so einen Body sieht man extrem selten. Sie setzt sich auf die mir gegenüberliegende Seite und schaut zu mir rüber. Wir halten die Blicke ein paar Sekunden, Sie lächelt – ich gehe zu Ihr.
Geschafft, gut das mir keiner der 3 anderen Gäste, die noch dort saßen, zuvor gekommen ist. Manchmal muss man halt warten, und manchmal schnell sein. Wir stellen uns vor, Sie kommt aus Polen und spricht außer Ihrer Heimatsprache noch Englisch aber kein Deutsch. Wir unterhalten uns und ich merke schnell dass die verhinderte Miss Polen ein sehr nettes, offenes Mädchen ist. Sie ist erst vor 2 Tagen aus Polen gekommen und dies ist Ihr erster Job im Paysex.
Wir suchen uns ein Zimmer. Und schon nach ein paar Minuten bin ich mir sicher das heute mein Glückstag ist. Mit Domenica habe ich GF6 at his best, mit dem Unterschied das ich leider noch nie eine Freundin mit einem solchen Body hatte. Langes küssen und streicheln, erkunden der Körper. Sie ist unprofessionell im allerbesten Sinne. Weitere Details erspare ich mir – Ihr wisst ja wie’s geht.
Domenica bleibt vorerst nur bis Samstag und geht dann zurück nach Polen.
Nach jetzigem Stand hat Sie allerdings vor dann zurück zu kommen.
Nach Domenica wollte ich nicht noch mal auf’s Zimmer und so sparte ich
mir Liliane für einen weiteren Besuch auf. Liliane ist übrigens, jedenfalls habe ich das am Mittwoch so erlebt, stark frequentiert.
Noch ein Saunagang absolviert, was gegessen und dann ging es auch wieder Richtung Heimat.
Am Donnerstag entschließe ich mich kurzfristig die am Vortag entfallene Session mit Liliane nachzuholen. Schließlich habe ich ansonsten in der Woche nicht oft die Gelegenheit dazu.
Okay, den Weg kenn ich ja jetzt.
Im Kontaktraum angetroffen sah ich zunächst weder Liliane, noch Domenica oder Nora.Dafür traf ich einen Gast den ich vom Gesicht her aus einem Kölner Club kenne. Ich setzte mich zu Ihm an die Bar und wir plauderten ein bisschen. Schnell stellte ich fest das er einen ähnlichen Geschmack wie ich hat. Er wartete auf Domenica, die wie die anderen beiden Ladys auf dem Zimmer war. Nun, ich hätte auch sehr gerne das gestrige Erlebiss mit Ihr aufgefrischt. Aber erstens war er schon länger da, zweitens hatte ich ja bereits das Vergnügen und dritten muss man auch gönne könne.
Dann kam Domenica rein und der Kollege war auch sofort bei Ihr.
Ich brauchte auch nicht mehr lange zu warten dann kam Liliane und nahm auf der großen Sitzlandschaft platz. Vom Vortag wusste ich noch das Sie stark frequentiert war und so zögerte ich nicht mich zu Ihr zu setzen. Ich schrieb bereits weiter oben das Sie eine Erotik ausstrahlt die einen Mann einfach faszinieren muss. Es dauerte nicht sehr lange bis zu ersten Berührungen und küssen. Zunächst zart dann Intensiver. Ihre Hand wandert zu meinem Schwanz und schenkt diesem die Freiheit. Doch nicht lange dann taucht er in Ihren Mund. Sie bläst herrlich und es ist eine Wonne Ihr dabei zuzusehen. Wir wechseln dann in ein Zimmer. Hier merke ich schnell das Liliane ein richtig geiles Luder ist (eigentlich wollte ich schreiben „richtig geile Sau“, aber das schreibt man doch nicht.)
Tiefe, feuchte ZK bis zu den Mandeln. Intensives Fingern und lecken.
Einen dermaßen nassen, variantenreichen und tiefen Blow Job wie Ihn auch Janice aus dem TP zelebriert. Bein ficken geht Liliane richtig mit, windet Ihren Körper. Es ist einfach geil mit Ihr.
Nach etwas relaxen gönne ich mir dann noch eine 2. Runde mit Nora.
Mit Ihr hat es mir gestern sehr gut gefallen und da Sie einen sehr fordernden Eindruck machte führte uns diesmal der Weg nicht in die obere Etage sondern nach unten.
Die Biosauna ist nicht besonders heiß aber es reicht,
die Sitzbänke sind mit rotem Kunstleder überzogen.
Wir ließen die Tür offen und breiten die Handtücher aus. Die Frau hat einfach Spaß am Sex, was ich gestern schon festgestellt hatte bestätigte sich wieder. Intensive Zungenspiele und während Sie meinen Schwanz mit Ihrem Mund verwöhnt fingere ich Sie. Durch die Hitze ist Sie sehr schnell feucht, ich stimmuliere Ihre Mumu und ficke Sie dann mit 2 Fingern. Nora gefällt das, wird Ihr Stöhnen doch lauter. Dann will ich endlich mit dem ganz dicken Finger rein. Sie streift mir das Gummi über und ich knie mich hinter Sie. Der Schweiß fließt bereits und so ergibt sich ein flutschiges Gefühl Haut auf Haut. Nach ein paar langsameren Stößen ficke ich Sie härter und heftiger. Nora stöhnt nun extrem laut. Noch eine Weile halte ich das durch und merke dann wie die Säfte zu steigen beginnen – und Abschuss.
Puuh, nach dem Duschen noch was gegessen und getrunken und dann vollends befriedigt auf den Heimweg gemacht.
Ist jetzt ein bisschen sehr lang geworden,
ich hoffe das niemand beim Lesen eingeschlafen ist.[/quote]
Fazit: to follow.
Briefly Flahute was a very busy boy. He had every wish fulfilled. Went there for Liliana and Domenica but first ended up with Nora. She admitted to him this was her first time in the pay sex industry but had been practicing a lot in private before coming to Babylon (Good girl that's what I like to hear - Marlow). He was blissfully happy with Nora and her noisy performance. Then came Domenica who is from Poland and spoke only English (polish of course), she too was a newbie in the pay sex game. She too was wonderful.
He decided to return on another day. Finally he made it with Lilana who rivalled anything he has had at Traumparadies (well boys, that is a recommendation of Michelin quality believe me - Marlow). Indeed he made a thorough pig of himself with this sex goddess. After drawing breath he gave Nora another right energetic going over in the bio sauna, before helping himself to a meal and trotting off home. There were ten women there and between seven and ten men.
Me thinks this man struck gold.....
.. with the translation, Marlow!
There is so much stuff out there to read in German on this topic and I only have just so much time to do translations.
[QUOTE=Coxswain]This in response to query about public trnasport to babylon in elsdorf. This info is about 4 years old, from when Babyon was in its hey day.
Take train from Koeln HBF to Horrem (yes, that's really the name of the place)
When you get off the train, you will see another train parked in the distance to the north. Join the crowd of people who will be walking from one train to the other across an empty lot.
Get on the second train and get off at Elsdorf. Once I got to Elsdorf, I couldn't figure out how to do the rest by public transit, so I called a taxi.
NB: Before you leave the Horrem Station on your outbound journey, check the Abfahrt to learn the time that the last train leaves there for Koln in the evening. As I remember it was about 0030, but could be different know, otherwise you will pay an expensice cab fare back to Koeln.
On my return trips, I took a cab from the club to Horrem HBF and then the train back to Koeln.
Coxswain[/QUOTE]
It is also possible to take a train to Bergheim and then a taxi, that is slightly cheaper than taking one from Horrem. I visited this place in 05, has this club improved, it was top notch in 2001, I particularly remember this club because I met a beautiful Arab girl here and strangely enough we had sex on the 10th of September 2001.
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]Her name was Chanel, she is German Turkish, she also had an Arab friend named Shirina. I am not kidding that I would give a lot of money just to say hello to her again.[/QUOTE]
She was amazing and I would definitely do her again if someone can figure out where she now works (if she is still working). She had an amazing all-over tan, nice figure, tits and legs.
She was one of those girls who had absolutely no inhibitions, would impale herself on you right there on the couch in full view of everyone else.
I associate certain women with certain songs. I don't know about the rest of you but I pay attention to the German pop songs playing in the background at these clubs (you spend so much time just hanging out and listening to the music, so why not?).
I associate Shaggy's [i]It wasn't me[/i] with her. I can picture her dancing in the hallway of this club very clearly in my mind.
This was probably back in 2001.
Shirina was Turkish and she was very, very good. A dude I traveled with in that time frame swears by her. He was shaking like a leaf after a session with her. She had drained him of all essential body fluids.
Last I heard she had switched jobs and was now working the reception desk at Babylon. I understand that Jacqueline is still the Thekenfrau there too.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]. With the translation, Marlow!
There is so much stuff out there to read in German on this topic and I only have just so much time to do translations. [/QUOTE]There are many free translation tools available on the web, so language is no longer a barrier. Here is a machine translation of your last quote from RF:
Originally Posted by Flahute
[Report] my premiere in the Babylon, Mi. + DO.
Liliana, you are the reason for my Erstbesuch in the Babylon.
Last week looked at I the homepage and sees myself your photos.
The Mrs. Has a picture-pretty face, I looks for whether I reports over you finds and become also very fast found.
It has already some stations behind itself and your service was always praised.
Then I extend Okay times mean horizon and plan in bälde one
Trip after Elsdorf. Those are of me unfortunately 125 km.
This week Tuesday look I once again also the HP of the club and see the new acquisitions Estefania and Domenica.
Picture-pretty Mrs. Those the heart of a optics-fixed Paysex consumer as I it now times one am more highly to strike leave.
Wednesday has I time, Liliana and Domenica should be present.
The homepage is in all other respects arranged very beautiful, informative and equipped with a up to date presence list.
The girls are to the all largest part with photos represented and your service spectrum is listed likewise.
On Wednesday I make sure at 13. 30 o'clock by telephone whether Liliana and Domenica are also actually present.
There Yes sir, you are. Beautifully, then' s can loose-go.
Parked in the backyard and then for inlet asked. Was opened for me and I outete myself as Erstbesucher. After I, one calls the starting money it also entrance, at a value of € 50,. Had forced away me by a girl the club was shown.
I got rid of before however in cover myself my Alltagsklamotten, closed these into the locker and committed myself a towel around my hips.
Down, where cover is, also 2 Saunen are, a shower increase sofas and Couchen and it go to the terrace in good weather being used can. At this time was down however only empties. As I spä *** to determine could do took place, at least on this day, nearly everything a floor more highly.
There it went then. A large table with several chairs, in contrast to this the meal, a bar and a large seat land landscape in you form and in the midst of a couch place where I also immediately the first public Action in inspection to take could. Right at the top the rooms are and also still showering opportunities.
Thus, after I now the premises know learned order I first times which-he-alcohol-free beverages are in the admission fee inkludiert, beer costs € 3,. Specially. I look for myself a place in the large group of seats and recognize also immediately Liliana. The woman stole an erotism out, from class. Unfortunately is already busy with a towel carrier you. I look at myself times, but this guest prefers the separationness of a room and in such a way disappears the two. Another girl was noticeable to me however already before. Blond one, shoulder for a long time hair, blue eyes and a very pretty, natural, unspent face. I sit down to me, you am called Nora.
A little Small talc, you laughs very gladly and has beautiful white teeth. We approach ourselves, first kisses. I stroke over your body.
Nora is not switch slim, but everything firm. Their radiant emittance and your face it did to me. Their hand does not walk under my towel and it lasts kneels long there you before me and spoils me with their mouth.
That makes you correctly good, you drives with your tongue to my tail along and looks at me thereby with your blue eyes. I find it times geil me on the couch spoil in such a way to let, particularly since Nora really white which man well does.
Sometime however the point is reached where I it says which I gladly with it on' s room to go would like.
Nora said to me you only for some days in the Paysex before is active, how to me has you before however already intensive seemed privately geübt.
I put on myself my towel, which is however quite bumped out. We go the stairs highly into one of the rooms. The room is divided by a wall broad at the side one about the passage 1 meter has. Curious as I now times am look I first times which on the other side am so the matter, there am however apparently straight half time.
We begin where we also already down began.
A detailierte description I save times,
Finally know you all like' s goes.
Nora has view and audibly fun at the Sex and comes very authentically more rüber. It is much demanding, kisses intensive and well, can be licked and fumbled. With traffic Nora keeps against it and is as already written demanding and the quietest very also not good. I was to high-content with my choice.
After showering I went first times into the seat landscape, what umgeschaut drunk and me a little. Meanwhile approx. 7-10 Dreibeiner were in the house. And there were also about 10 girls. Beside Liliana and Nora also Laura particularly pleased me. It reminded a beautiful Hardbody and a face me a little of an ex colleague. Then Domenica came purely, so a Body sees one extremely rarely. It sits down on me facing the side and looks to me more rüber. We hold views a few seconds, you smile. I go to it.
Production, well me none of the 3 of other guests, who sat still there, before came. Sometimes one must wait stop, and be fast sometimes. We think of, you come from Poland and speak except your homeland language still English however no German. We converse and I notice fast that the prevented let us measure Poland a very nice, open girl are. She came only 2 days ago from Poland and this is your first job in the Paysex.
We look for each other a room. And after a few minutes I am already that today my luck day am safe. With Domenica I best GF6 RK his, with the difference which I unfortunately never a friend with such Body had. Long kiss and stroke, explore the body. It is unprofessional in the very best sense. Further details I save. You know like' s goes.
Domenica remains for the time being only until Saturday and goes then back to Poland.
To current conditions has to come you however forwards then back.
After Domenica I did not want once again on' s room and saved in such a way I me Liliane for a further visit up. Liliane is by the way, anyhow I on Wednesday experienced in such a way, strongly frequented.
Still another Saunagang completes, which went eaten and then it also again to direction homeland.
On Thursday I decide to retrieve itself at short notice the session with Liliane, the day before which was void. Finally I do not have the opportunity otherwise in the week often in addition.
Okay, the way now know I.
In the contact area I saw first neither Liliane found, nor Domenica or Nora. Dafür met I a guest who I from the face from Cologne club know. I sat down to him to the bar and we chatted a little. Fast I placed firmly which it a similar taste as I have. It waited for Domenica, which was like the other two Ladys on the room. Now, I would have also very gladly the of yesterday experience-eat with it refurbished. But first of all it was had I the pleasure and third must one already also grants already longer there, secondly can.
Then Domenica came clean and the colleague was also immediately with it.
I needed to wait also not more for a long time then came Liliane and took on the large seat landscape place. From the day before I knew you was strongly still frequented and did not hesitate in such a way I not me to it to set. I wrote to already far you an erotism radiate the one man above simply to fascinate must. It lasted not for a very long time up to first contacts and kisses. First tenderly then intensive. Their hand walks to my tail and gives to this the freedom. But not for a long time then it dips into your mouth. It blows wonderful and it is a Wonne it thereby to be watched. We change then into a room. Here I notice the Liliane a correctly geiles Luder am fast (actually I wanted to write „correctly geile sow ", but one does not write nevertheless.)
Deep, damp ZK up to the almonds. Intensive fumbling and lick.
A so wet, variant-rich and deep Blow job like it also Janice from the TP celebrates.
Leg ficken goes along Liliane correctly, winds your body. It is simple geil with it.
After something relaxen grant myself I then still another 2nd round with Nora.
With their it has me fallen and there you very good yesterday a very much demanding impression made led us this time the way not into the upper floor to separate downward.
The Biosauna is not particularly hot however it is enough, the seats are covered with red imitation leather.
We left the door open and spread the towels. The woman has simply fun at the Sex, which I had yesterday already determined was confirmed again. Intensive tongue plays and during you mean tail delicately with your mouth fumble I you. By the heat is you very fast damp, I stimmuliere your Mumu and ficke you then with 2 fingers. Nora pleases that, becomes your groaning nevertheless louder. Then I want finally with the completely thick finger purely. It touches me the rubber over and I kneels itself behind you. The sweat flows already and in such a way arises a flutschiges feeling skin on skin. After a few slower impacts ficke I it harder and more violently. Nora groans now extremely loud. Still another one while hold on I and notice like the juices to then rise begin. And firing.
Puuh, after showering still which eaten and drunk and then satisfies completely on the way home made.
Became now a little very long
I do not hope that anybody during the reading fell asleep.
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.. can only take you just so far.
You might be able to guess at what he is trying to say but nothing beats a live person doing it.
...was Jonathan Saffron Foer's book 'Everything is Illuminated' which came out a few years ago. It's about his trip to the Ukraine to search for his forebearers (something a great number of Yanks do). part written by Jonathan and the best parts written by a Ukrainian called Alex who is his tour guide. Alex's grasp of English and his typical Ukranian post communist attitude to life is one of the best pieces of comedy writing I have ever read.
The famous Liliana is missing from the website ...looks like she moved again.
Any updates where she might be working now?
what's pricing structure in babylon for the moment? Thanks
50€ Entry and 50 € for half an hour of sex with the girl. The club has improved a bit from its fall a few years ago but it still not as good as it was when I first visited in 2001. This club used to have the best eye candy of any club in Germany.
Their new website has very attractive photos:
[url]www.privatclub-babylon.de[/url]
There is even one chick they identify as Afro-American, La Toya.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]Their new website has very attractive photos:
[url]www.privatclub-babylon.de[/url]
There is even one chick they identify as Afro-American, La Toya.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for posting the url. I checked it out. Most interesting detail: all of the girls are listed by name, and their degree of pubic shaving is listed :D You can also see the faces of most girls. Quite a nice-looking lineup. I'll have to pay this club a visit on Sept. 23 (when I am in Düsseldorf again).
[QUOTE=Euro100]Thanks for posting the url. I checked it out. Most interesting detail: all of the girls are listed by name, and their degree of pubic shaving is listed :D You can also see the faces of most girls. Quite a nice-looking lineup. I'll have to pay this club a visit on Sept. 23 (when I am in Düsseldorf again).[/QUOTE]
.. is, indeed, the interesting thing about their website.
There are two women in their lineup who've been there for a while: Laura and Verona, both of whom I've met.
I believe I've met Melanie too, when she was at Wiago.
I visited Wiago years ago with this Canadian dude from Toronto and he was hopelessly obsessed with her. He insisted on returning to this club several days in a row and did multiple sessions with her including the champagne plus whirlpool thing.
It was pretty bad. But then again, I went through the same thing also once with a chick, Jessica, at the same club.
Now if this club and Wiago would only get their acts together. Its been years since their glory days.
There are nude clubs and there are "exhibitionistic nude" clubs. They once offered the best eye candy in Germany.
I have a thing for this club based on good experiences I've had there. Unfortunately, over the past couple of years its been nothing like it used to be.
In fact, a bad experience I had with a chick here two years ago has kept me away.
They post on Youppie and according to them the ownership situation has changed and they, as well, have no more connection to Wiago.
Here is what they wrote (in French) announcing a party on the 12th of October ([i]Schade[/i] but I won't be able to make it to this!).
Note the new website address. Note also the large-titted Liliane is also named below (some of you out there follow her migrations).
[quote=Babylon] 10 ans Babylon à Elsdorf "Party" le 12.10
Chers amis du Babylon et amis à venir,
depuis le 8 janvier 2007 le Babylon a été repris par de nouveaux propriétaires.
Jusqu'il y a 5 à 6 années ce club était, et beaucoup vont s'en souvenir, l'un des meilleurs si pas LE meilleur des FKK-Clubs de tout le "Grossraum Köln".
Hélas à l'époque, par un changement de proprios et par une mauvaise gérance le Club a périclité...
Nous, nouveaux propriétaires, avons la prétention de reconduire ce Club à moyenne échéance dans le rang des meilleurs FKK-Clubs de Rhénanie-Westphalie.
Ainsi nous avons pu reconstruire une équipe de dames que beaucup ont déjà eu l'occasion de contempler sur le nouveau website
[url]www.privatclub-babylon.de[/url]
créé en mars 07.
A côté de l'équipe souche avec Laura, Leyla, Verona, Melanie, Sabrina, Nora, et d'autres, nous réussissons aussi à vous présenter des femmes exceptionnelles telles Liliane, Domenica, Arrancciatta, Kamila, ... Liliane sera d'ailleurs présente à partir du 10. octobre.
Et nous allons persévérer.
Dans peu de temps nous allons rénover tout le bâtiment.
Pour fê*** tout celà nous vous invitons nombreux à notre "Oktoberfest-Party" le 12 octobre à Elsdorf.
Nos filles vous recoivent (pas de cédille sur mon clavier allemand) dans un "Oktoberfest-Outfit" sexy.
Nous fêtons avec:
Freibier (bière à volonté)
Buffet spécial
Danses
Musique du DJ
Début 12.00 heures, open end
Soyez nombreux et les bienvenus![/quote]
Fazit: They are celebrating their tenth anniversary on the 12th of October with an Oktoberfest party. Party starts at 12:00 and is open ended.The women will be wearing Oktoberfest-wear (whatever that is). The ownership situation changed in January of this year (in another post on the Youppie thread they say the current ownership has nothing to do with [i]Milieu[/i]) and they hope to bring the club back to what it used to be; the top club in this part of the country (which is was at one point in time). It then lists the women who are there and says specifically that Liliane will be there after the 10th of October. They have plans to renovate the building.
As to what is going on currently at Wiago, [i]ca, je n'en sais rien[/i].
Whoever is running this club now actually has someone on board who is a Francophone, apparently.
Can anyone point out how if i catch a taxi how much roughly should it cost to get there?
[QUOTE=Sesameking]Can anyone point out how if i catch a taxi how much roughly should it cost to get there?[/QUOTE]
... and I've not come to a clear answer on how much a cab would cost (at least from Koeln).
I know that there are trains to Bergheim (on the Erft) as I have taken trains to and from Koeln.
Elsdorf is one town over and so I suppose the cab ride would be cheapest this way.
I do believe there is a bus from the Bergheim station but I've not figured out which stop in Elsdorf is the closest to it.
I even went on a drive once in the town to try and figure out where things were. Its been a while since I've been back though.
The club has had recently some poor revues on the German boards. Stuck between PHG and Samya to name but two Babylon has some serious competition in the neighbourhood. Also entry at 35euro and first bang at 75euro, the price comes out 10euro more than Samya. German board commentators are pissed (to put it politely) that the advertised times of the girls do not correspond to reality - the girl(s) ain't there. Babylon's response was that it had no control over the girls, and if they cried off on the day there was not a lot they could do about it. Consequently the webpage no longer says who's in. So it is a long trip for perhaps not very much.
Samya has been quick to capitalise on this by posting real-time updates of which girls are in the club, making it very tough for Babylon to attract customers into the wilds of the flat lands west of Cologne.
[QUOTE=Marlow]The club has had recently some poor revues on the German boards. Stuck between PHG and Samya to name but two Babylon has some serious competition in the neighbourhood. Also entry at 35euro and first bang at 75euro, the price comes out 10euro more than Samya. German board commentators are pissed (to put it politely) that the advertised times of the girls do not correspond to reality - the girl(s) ain't there. Babylon's response was that it had no control over the girls, and if they cried off on the day there was not a lot they could do about it. Consequently the webpage no longer says who's in. So it is a long trip for perhaps not very much.
Samya has been quick to capitalise on this by posting real-time updates of which girls are in the club, making it very tough for Babylon to attract customers into the wilds of the flat lands west of Cologne.[/QUOTE]
.. has, indeed, been an issue. It has always been a premium pricing club (at least since they went from the DMark to the Euro).
And yes, Samya has, indeed, set the pace as far as real-time data on who is present and working.
I've always kept an eye on this club because it is a sentimental favorite but it needs to make some real changes and I need to read more positive reviews before I return to check it out.
[QUOTE=Marlow] Also entry at 35euro and first bang at 75euro [/QUOTE]
I know that Fkk Zeus takes a cut from the girls to offset the low entry fee...wonder if Babylon does the same? You'd think new management would try to price themselves with their competition if they wanted to draw customers back to their club.
[QUOTE=Breadman]I know that Fkk Zeus takes a cut from the girls to offset the low entry fee...wonder if Babylon does the same? You'd think new management would try to price themselves with their competition if they wanted to draw customers back to their club.[/QUOTE]
When this club was good, it was very good. It never wavered in its pricing philosophy and has always been premium priced. It justified this pricing based on high service standards and lots of exhibitionistic nudism.
There was a time when Bernds per session pricing was high too (I can't recall exactly but it was something like 80 Euros per session) but its entrance fee was low (wasn't it something like 30 Euros?).
Then they raised the entrance fee to the current rate of 75 Euros (I can't recall exactly) and at the same time dropped the per session charge to 50 Euros.
Since the German's put prostitution on the level a couple of years ago (about) clubs have had to change their pricing structure to stay within the law. This was the case with Bernd's which if you noticed when it charged 80 euros kept 30euros for itself, handed the girl 50euros and made her sign for it. The law says you can't do that any longer as the girl is self-employed so taking a cut of her wages is tantamount to being an employer. No club can afford the costs of German employee laws! And no girl wants it anyway. Recently the govt started a withholding tax of I think around 25euros a day (but don't quote me on that) which each girl has to pay. The idea being to encourage girls to declare their earnings for tax in the proper manner. Raids are regularly carried out to check if the girls are registered for tax. FKK and sauna clubs seem by and large to stay within the law - the girl pays her daily 'rent' and her tax and the rest she keeps. In other 'establishments' I'm not sure how it works, only that I know the old system of keeping half the earnings remains in use. The owners of these houses argue that the 50% take is justified by the unreliability of the girls themselves. They say they'll stay for three months or more, but can disappear overnight, leaving the owner out of pocket for providing the rooms, laundry etc etc. Whereas FKK and sauna clubs charge the girls a flat rate rent, these other 'puffs' don't. So a girl in a 'puff' who has say a really good day with six clients at an hour each (really good!) earns 900euros of which she keeps half. To earn 450euros in a FKK club a girl must have nine clients and from that deduct her outgoings (rent and tax).
There you have, not that it matters a toss to us!
[QUOTE=Marlow]Since the German's put prostitution on the level a couple of years ago (about) clubs have had to change their pricing structure to stay within the law. This was the case with Bernd's which if you noticed when it charged 80 euros kept 30euros for itself, handed the girl 50euros and made her sign for it. The law says you can't do that any longer as the girl is self-employed so taking a cut of her wages is tantamount to being an employer. No club can afford the costs of German employee laws! And no girl wants it anyway. Recently the govt started a withholding tax of I think around 25euros a day (but don't quote me on that) which each girl has to pay. The idea being to encourage girls to declare their earnings for tax in the proper manner. Raids are regularly carried out to check if the girls are registered for tax. FKK and sauna clubs seem by and large to stay within the law - the girl pays her daily 'rent' and her tax and the rest she keeps. In other 'establishments' I'm not sure how it works, only that I know the old system of keeping half the earnings remains in use. The owners of these houses argue that the 50% take is justified by the unreliability of the girls themselves. They say they'll stay for three months or more, but can disappear overnight, leaving the owner out of pocket for providing the rooms, laundry etc etc. Whereas FKK and sauna clubs charge the girls a flat rate rent, these other 'puffs' don't. So a girl in a 'puff' who has say a really good day with six clients at an hour each (really good!) earns 900euros of which she keeps half. To earn 450euros in a FKK club a girl must have nine clients and from that deduct her outgoings (rent and tax).
There you have, not that it matters a toss to us![/QUOTE]
This would explain why they made these changes to pricing then.
After not having been back since 2005, decided it was time to drop in on this club, my favorite club of all time until things started falling apart.
Its under new management and now is totally separate from Wiago, which has been renamed Extasia or something like that.
One of the owners, Eddy, is a former customer of this club and knows it well from its glory days.
But times have changed. Whereas back then probably only PHG was direct competition in this neck of the woods, there are now GT, Wildenrath, Residenz and Villa Vertigo to reckon with. [i]Mal sehen was passieren wird[/i].
He (Eddy) is ready to invest money in the club though and that means revising the shower fixtures upstairs, for one.
The set up is quite the same as before. Lighting is different and the [i]Kunstleder[/i] couches are now in black (or was it deep blue?).
In front of the bar they have a pole and a stage for pole dancing. The women were complaining that the pole was of the wrong diameter though and it wasn't easy to turn on it.
They have plans of taking out the bar and doing something with it.
The former Umkleideraum is now a bedroom. I had instinctively headed for it with my towel and key but the lockers are now under the stairs (where I remember very clearly making out with this Polish blonde, Ramona).
Ah.. Every nook and cranny of this club holds memories for me. At this section of the couch, I admired Michelle's tight bod. At that other section, I had my first public BJ. It all came back to me in a rush of memories.
They have some photos of the former [i]Besatzung[/i] hanging on the walls. Yvette, Pia, Suzi, Shirina, Nina, Chanel.. those names just roll right off my tongue.
Oh yes, where was I?
There weren't many customers when we got there and only five girls in total. All well selected and edited for one's viewing and sensual pleasures. Jessy was a darkhaired Russian or Polish chick. She had a friend who was equally darkhaired and equally Russian or Polish. There was one Turkish woman too with a nice figure.
For one, the legendary big-titted Liliane was very much present. One knows one is in the presence of greatness when one is within an arm's length of her. Her bikini top could barely contain her nipples.
Yes, they now wear bikinis there.
We stayed up until the wee hours of the morning talking about how great the club used to be and that if they were to get it back on track to greatness, the all nude rule had to be reintroduced.
Also, I made it a point to insist that the post-coital session afterwards had to be reinstituted as well (as some of you know, the PC session is long gone and it isn't offered anywhere these days).
Then there was Nadine who is a legend in her own right, the so-called independent Nadine from Bergheim. She greeted us at the door wearing nothing but thigh high boots, blonde, blue-eyed, totally shaved and I eventually found myself drawn to her side.
I did have the pleasure and was extremely pleased to make her acquaintance.
Will this club suceed in turning things around? I don't know.
For one thing, they do have premium pricing. Its 35 Euros to get in, 75 Euros for the first session, 55 Euros for the second session.
If you consider say typical pricing of 50 Euros to get in, 50 Euros for the first session, you are at 105 Euros at Babylon where you would be at 100 Euros elsewhere.
By the time you did your second session you'd be 165 Euros at Babylon and at 150 Euros anywhere else.
They had better be offering really, really good services at Babylon to make this up and with the additional competition, things are going to be tough.
One should note that this pricing scheme compares favorably with Bernds though when you consider that Bernds asks for 70 Euros to enter the front door.
If I were in the owners shoes, Bernds would be the club I'd most want to be like rather than the local competition. PHG and GT have huge selections of women, some of whom are outstanding, some of which are average and some of whom are [i]unf'able[/i].
Babylon being a small club would have to compete in terms of offering a small, edited selection where one can throw a dart to pick one's session partner and be guaranteed a good experience. The larger clubs are too much of a crap shoot from my experience.
Oh, yes. There was food but it wasn't anything to write home about.
Their Thekenstaff was great though. Claudia (or Claudine) is funny, easy to talk to and friendly. At the end of the evening, she and I were holding hands like we were old friends (this is a long story).
I wish this club well for nostalgic purposes but it will a lot of work to turn it around.
Of the women on the website who now work there, I only recognize two: Laura and Verona. Both are still there but not present when I visited. I also think I recognize Melanie who used to be Wiago.
Want to experience a Babylon girl without actually going to Babylon? Monika at Bernds used to work at both Wiago and Babylon. This goes back several years now (I'll have to read my notes to get the exact year). She may, in fact, be the oldest Babylon girl I have ever met who is still actively in the profession. The others have moved on (if anyone knows what Suzie is doing currently, I'd be interested in finding out, by the way).
[QUOTE=Jackyo]
But times have changed. Whereas back then probably only PHG was direct competition in this neck of the woods, there are now GT, Wildenrath, Residenz and Villa Vertigo to reckon with. [i]Mal sehen was passieren wird[/i].
For one thing, they do have premium pricing. Its 35 Euros to get in, 75 Euros for the first session, 60 Euros for the second session.
If you consider say typical pricing of 50 Euros to get in, 50 Euros for the first session, you are at 110 Euros at Babylon where you would be at 100 Euros elsewhere.
By the time you did your second session you'd be 170 Euros at Babylon and at 150 Euros anywhere else. There was food but it wasn't anything to write home about.
[/QUOTE]
I know that for my 50 euro's I get decent food and all the beer I can handle (within reason) at GT and im going to assume the same for PHG and Vertigo (once it opens). Will my 35 entrance fee give me free beer?
[QUOTE=Breadman]I know that for my 50 euro's I get decent food and all the beer I can handle (within reason) at GT and im going to assume the same for PHG and Vertigo (once it opens). Will my 35 entrance fee give me free beer?[/QUOTE]
No, there is no free beer.
They do have alcoholic beverages but you need to pay for them separately.
Their strategy is to offer an edited selection of women and guarantee total satisfaction from the services offered.
When this club was good, it was as good if not better than Bernds service-wise.
This invitation is extended to anglophones also.
[quote=Babylon] "Party" de Noel le 07.12.07 au Babylon
Chers amis du Babylon,
Le 07 décembre a lieu au Babylon notre annuel "Party" de Noel.
Nos filles porteront un outfit de Noel très sexy.
Il y a boissons et buffet.
Début 12.00 heures
A partir de 20.00 heures: live-music par un groupe folklorique bien connu du Carneval de Cologne.
Notez s'il-vous-plaît que depuis le début novembre dernier le Babylon est de nouveau comme dans le passé un Club FKK pur (toutes les filles sont entièrement nues).
Soyez les bien-venus.
FKK-Privat-Club Babylon
[url]www.privatclub-babylon.de[/url][/quote]
Fazit: They are having their Christmas party on the 7th of December. The women will be dressed appropriately in Christmas outfits and they will have food and drink. Everything starts at 12:00 and at 20:00 they will have live music played by a folk music group which is well known at the Karneval in Koeln. They also announce that since the beginning of November, they are an entirely nude club now (Yes! They acted on my suggestion the last time. How cool is that?).
This club is accessible via a combination of train/bus/taxi as follows:
[quote=Babylon]Je te joins pour amis belges, luxembourgeois et autres, qui veulent venir en train, un petit guide pour arriver au club sans problèmes:
Si tu viens de Belgique, le plus facile est de prendre le train vers Cologne. Avant Cologne descendre à la station de HORREM.
Là bas appeler Taxi Janitz Tel. 02274/1717 ou bien 02271/64555.
En donnant le mot de passe "FKK-Club-Babylon" le trajet de 10 à 15 minutes au Club est pour 17 Euros (pix convenu avec le patron).
Si tu viens de Cologne, train direction Aachen, descendre à la station de Horrem ... et même procédure. Tu peux venir aussi avec la Strassenbahn vers Köln-Weiden, en face du Rheincenter prendre le Bus 961 vers Bergheim, ici aussi prendre un taxi Tel.02271/64555.
Nous sommes en train de négocier des prix d'hôtel à proximité du club.[/quote]
Fazit: If you are coming from Belgium, take the train in the direction of Koeln, get off at Horrem. Call Taxi Janitz (phone numbers above), give them the password "FKK Club Babylon" and within 10 to 15 minute you will be there for about 17 Euros. If you come from Koeln, take the train to Aachen, get off at Horrem and do the same thing. You can also take the streetcar in the direction of Koeln-Weiden and in front of the Rheincenter, take Bus 961 to Bergheim and then call a cab when you get there. They are in the process of negotiating with a hotel in the area so one can stay nearby.
I have also taken the train from Koeln Hbf to Bergheim Centreville.. sorry - Stadtmitte, and gotten off there.
They will hold their annual "Carnaval" party on January 31st. On the same day, there will be a meeting for the members of the forum Youppie.
Normally between 20 and 25 girls will be present, they will also offer a nice buffet for this party.
I swung by Babylon again last night. I used to like this club years and years ago, and I still rop by once a year to see whether there are any hidden treasures.
I have to say I was at Schieferhof and Traumparadies on the same day, where my results were very mixed.
So I get to Elsdorf, an once again they had changed the pricing scheme.
It is 35€ entrance fee
The first half hour is an additional 75€ and each half hour after that is 55€. They keep the prize for the club with the stupidest and most confusing pricing system.
They also have a list up for all the extras, with CIM at 25€, CIM with swallowing at 50€, Anal at 50€ and some other things. I have it on very good authority that posting such a list puts the club management in a dangerous legal situation, but that isn't my problem.
The girls keep 40€ for each half hour, and the club gets the rest, the girl also keeps all of her extras money.
So I go there, and there are about 4 girls there. 3 were nothing to write home about, and then there was Isabella.
She is about 5'3" and slim with smallish perky breasts and a nice sporty butt. She has dark blonde long hair and in every way looks "natural". She is 21 and Polish, no tattoos, no long fingernails - just a very natural good looking girl.
Her german is decent, she also speaks a bit of english.
So we talked for a while, and she was a smart and nice girl...so I decided to take it to the room.
There we talked some more, and she kissed me in a way that I could really call a GFE. The girl doesn't smoke, so her tongue and breath are really nice and fresh. I rarely use the term GFE, but tis kissing was really really a lot like when you were 19 and some girl was really into you. It was something I haven't really seen in a working girl for quite a while.
I then went down on her, which she enjoyed, then she went down on me, wich again was a whole new world for working girls, and even included a bit of rimming.....it is no surprise she says that she has quite a few repeat customers who ask for her or make appointments.
the actual sex was out of this world again. She really really got into it, wrapping her legs around me, going along with my rhythm, fluidly changing positions.
The girl has CIM in her program, and Anal, and I decided I wanted to try anal again. She was amazing.
I haven't been this impressed with a working girl in years, she is definitely in my all time top 3, and that after only one encounter.
Bablon all in all has not improved, but this girl is worth heading to a club just for a chance with her.
I spent an hour with her with anal, which was 180€, and I swear I still consider it a bargain.
Call ahead to see if she is there, because she is a reason to visit the club....if she isn't there don't even bother.
[url]http://babylon-privatclub.info/cms/front_content.php?idart=20&idcat=2&lang=1&client=1[/url]
The other highlight of this club used to be Lilijana.
Yes, it is the same large breasted Lilijana who worked at Blue Note and at La Bedo. Some of you know exactly who I am referring to.
She has a cult following like you wouldn't believe.
I say "used to be" because last I heard she had moved on. Destination unknown (maybe I'll try to find her on the RF).
Schade!
[QUOTE=Jackyo]The other highlight of this club used to be Lilijana.
Yes, it is the same large breasted Lilijana who worked at Blue Note and at La Bedo. Some of you know exactly who I am referring to.
She has a cult following like you wouldn't believe.
I say "used to be" because last I heard she had moved on. Destination unknown (maybe I'll try to find her on the RF).
Schade![/QUOTE]She isn't working at the moment (nowhere). If she starts again that will be probably again at Babylon ( info from herself)
Did Chanel, the half German half Turkish babe ever show up at this club again? She was amazing. I visit this club occasionally just because she was there.
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]Did Chanel, the half German half Turkish babe ever show up at this club again? She was amazing. I visit this club occasionally just because she was there.[/QUOTE]
I had the pleasure myself something like five years ago.
I'll always remember her as she had an amazing olive complexion and a really exotic look. She was very uninhibited.
I watched her impale herself on this guy's dick in full view of everyone in the main Kontaktzimmer and milk him dry.
Those were the days when Babylon was a "must visit" club.
The new owners are hoping to bring it back to that status.
@Willem2: Thanks for the intel on Lilijana!
Are you kidding?? I did not see her at Babylon since August 2001. More like seven years. From what I saw in 2007, Babylon has a long way to go until its gets back to the status. I think that Chanel thing was more earthshaking since it happened a month before September 2001, we all know what a bad month that was for the world. During my visit to Partytreff Selm, I saw a woman who looked somewhat like Chanel, but was Latvian, not German Turkish. I have no idea why it is so easy to meet incredible women in Europe, when I go back to the English speaking world I am constantly let down, it is not even funny. Living in Sydney there are plenty of good looking women, but pretty much they are very predictable and all want the same shit.
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]Are you kidding?? I did not see her at Babylon since August 2001. More like seven years. From what I saw in 2007, Babylon has a long way to go until its gets back to the status. I think that Chanel thing was more earthshaking since it happened a month before September 2001, we all know what a bad month that was for the world. During my visit to Partytreff Selm, I saw a woman who looked somewhat like Chanel, but was Latvian, not German Turkish. I have no idea why it is so easy to meet incredible women in Europe, when I go back to the English speaking world I am constantly let down, it is not even funny. Living in Sydney there are plenty of good looking women, but pretty much they are very predictable and all want the same shit.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it was seven years ago after all. I have to check my notes. Hard to believe 9.11 took place almost seven years ago.
I associate certain songs with certain time periods and certain women. I usually bring home a CD of the current German pop hit list (this background music plays at these clubs and it gets into your head). I play it in my car when I've driving around locally.
With Chanel the association is with Shaggy's "It wasn't me". Every now and then she would stand up and dance. Very erotic.
There are women who look good then there are "must have" women who you know when you see them you absolutely have to meet.
She was in the "must have" category.
Wonder what she looks like now? I got to see Margarita of DV at Living Room last year in 07 in Kaarst, the last time I saw her before that was in August 2001, still quite attractive but she did not seem to "Wow" like she did in the past.
I remember back then the guys at the Cfit tour, used to tout FKKs as good cheap sex, with the surging Euro it doesn't seem so cheap(I heard the Euro might buy as much as 3 to 4 US Dollars over the next several years, the Swiss Franc, Pound, Aussie and Canadian Dollar will also appreciate heavily against the Greenback), still rarely does a session go into triple figures even when translated into our devaluing US currency.
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]
I remember back then the guys at the Cfit tour, used to tout FKKs as good cheap sex, with the surging Euro it doesn't seem so cheap(I heard the Euro might buy as much as 3 to 4 US Dollars over the next several years, the Swiss Franc, Pound, Aussie and Canadian Dollar will also appreciate heavily against the Greenback), still rarely does a session go into triple figures even when translated into our devaluing US currency.[/QUOTE]
Right now it costs about 75 us dollars for a half hour session...100 for an hour at Goldentime/PHG/VV. Its 250 per hour in Toronto and around 180 in Montreal. But you never get a full hours worth of action...take off 10 minutes at the beginning and sometimes 15 at the end...so you pay for 35~40 minutes tops. Plus you don't get to meet the girls beforehand...and these agency owners employ very good photoshop experts.
Half hour in Sydney is about 140 to 160AUD at local brothels, that is about 100 EUR. North America and the UK are both ridiculously expensive for P4P. Montreal has a lot of girls working out of apartments, thats better than escorts.
[QUOTE=Breadman]Right now it costs about 75 us dollars for a half hour session...100 for an hour at Goldentime/PHG/VV. Its 250 per hour in Toronto and around 180 in Montreal. But you never get a full hours worth of action...take off 10 minutes at the beginning and sometimes 15 at the end...so you pay for 35~40 minutes tops. Plus you don't get to meet the girls beforehand...and these agency owners employ very good photoshop experts.[/QUOTE]
Agree P4P in North America is expensive. Toronto used to be a good deal when .75USD=1CAD. Now, not so good a deal. 140CAD half hour is available with the Chinese incalls. Montreal I rather like but for calling escorts for a good night fuck in my hotel room after an interesting day exploring the city. The FKK scene in Germany is a more full on, all day fuck fest experience. Apples and oranges.
I found this announcement of their new Preispolitik which is a major simplification of their previously confusing price structure.
Note also the longer opening hours on Friday and Saturday.
[quote=Babylon]Babylon Preise
Der Transparenz und der Übersichtlichkeit halber gelten im Babylon ab kommenden Montag folgende Preise:
Die Tageskarte - Preise
60-50-50
Die Tageskarte liegt bei 60 Euro (Eintritt). Dafür kannst Du Dich von 12.00 bis 24.00 Uhr (Montag bis Donnerstag) oder von 12.00 bis 02.00 Uhr (Freitag und Samstag) bei uns wohlfühlen. Ausserdem erhältst Du
» Handtücher und Badeschuhe
» Warmes Buffet und Softgetränke und diverse Biersorten
» Nutzung unserer Saunen
Der Gast bezahlt bei uns für eine gute halbe Stunde mit Küssen, Französisch ohne und Verkehr (mit Schutz) 50 Euro, für jede weitere halbe Stunde mit derselben Dame, aber auch mit anderen Damen, 50 Euro.
Extras werden wie folgt aufgeschlagen: Analverkehr +50 Euro, Aufnahme +25 Euro, Schlucken + 50 Euro, NS +25 Euro.
Für Gruppen ab 5 Personen oder für besondere Events (Junggesellenparty, Privatparty, ...) gelten besondere Preise auf Anfrage.
__________________
FKK Babylon [/quote]
Time to return and check this club out!
Last time I was there, Eddy, one of the new owners, said they were working out an arrangment with a hotel nearby.
Its not easy to get to without a car. Its doable but it involves a sequence of transfers.
Jackyo, their prices seemed high to me, 60 to get in, no happy hour, 50 every 1/2 hour, so I have just checked at their web site, below, from what I understood entrance is 35, and first 1/2 hour 75, the following 55, the prices you copied will be the new ones? Anyway, both price structures are high, it has to be pretty good either in terms of line-up or services. They are in an area which the strongest competitor is Golden Time, not so far way...
Die Tageskarte - Preise
Die Tageskarte liegt bei 35 Euro (Eintritt). Dafür kannst Du Dich von 12.00 bis 24.00 Uhr (Montag bis Donnerstag) oder von 12.00 bis 02.00 Uhr (Freitag und Samstag) bei uns wohlfühlen. Ausserdem erhältst Du
» Handtücher und Badeschuhe
» Warmes Buffet und Softgetränke und diverse Biersorten
» Nutzung unserer Saunen
Der Gast bezahlt bei uns für eine gute halbe Stunde mit Küssen, Französisch ohne und Verkehr (mit Schutz) 75 Euro, für jede weitere halbe Stunde mit derselben Dame, aber auch mit anderen Damen, 55 Euro.
Extras werden wie folgt aufgeschlagen: Analverkehr +50 Euro, Aufnahme +25 Euro, Schlucken + 50 Euro, NS +25 Euro.
[QUOTE=Travelerb69]
Die Tageskarte - Preise
Die Tageskarte liegt bei 35 Euro (Eintritt). Dafür kannst Du Dich von 12.00 bis 24.00 Uhr (Montag bis Donnerstag) oder von 12.00 bis 02.00 Uhr (Freitag und Samstag) bei uns wohlfühlen. Ausserdem erhältst Du
» Handtücher und Badeschuhe
» Warmes Buffet und Softgetränke und diverse Biersorten
» Nutzung unserer Saunen
Der Gast bezahlt bei uns für eine gute halbe Stunde mit Küssen, Französisch ohne und Verkehr (mit Schutz) 75 Euro, für jede weitere halbe Stunde mit derselben Dame, aber auch mit anderen Damen, 55 Euro.
Extras werden wie folgt aufgeschlagen: Analverkehr +50 Euro, Aufnahme +25 Euro, Schlucken + 50 Euro, NS +25 Euro.[/QUOTE]
I was in Babylon Friday April 15. The price structure indeed now is (again) as quoted above. I counted about 10 girls. Food was OK.
There is public action in the barroom even sex in the basement!
Line-up could not impress me that much, only the girl from Polen Isabella but she was booked all evening.
The club really is not bad and the owner tries to make the best of it.
But they have strong competion with Gt, LR, PHG, VV not that far away!
O yeah you do not pay the girl after a room but you pay the club when you leave.
Regards,
Big30
The prices jackyo copied were in use for a few days only. They came back to the old price structure (35 + 75 + 55 + 55 .....) after there were complaints about the new prices (60 + 50 + 50 + ....).
[QUOTE=Sexfan]The prices jackyo copied were in use for a few days only. They came back to the old price structure (35 + 75 + 55 + 55 .....) after there were complaints about the new prices (60 + 50 + 50 + ....).[/QUOTE]
I actually sent Eddy a note asking him to confirm.
This is what he wrote back:
[quote=Babylon]Hallo Jackyo,
schön, von Dir zu hören.
Letztlich sind unsere Preise unverändert geblieben.
Wir hatten bekannt gegeben, daß wir, um uns anzupassen an andere Clubs, die
Preise auf 60-50-50 setzen würden. Aber man hat uns derart im Internet
angegriffen, daß wir alles unverändert lassen.
Liebe Grüße Eddy[/quote]
In other words: they have reverted back to their old pricing structure.
I stand corrected.
Can someone confirm if the Mahe whose photos are on the Babylon website is the same Mahe who has worked at Bernds?
She is half Korean and half German.
A visit to this website also reveals that there is a Japanese woman who works there, Saki, who looks to be someone I should meet.
Her tits though look to be, as they say, [i]getuned[/i].
[QUOTE=Jackyo]Can someone confirm if the Mahe whose photos are on the Babylon website is the same Mahe who has worked at Bernds?
She is half Korean and half German.
A visit to this website also reveals that there is a Japanese woman who works there, Saki, who looks to be someone I should meet.
Her tits though look to be, as they say, [i]getuned[/i].[/QUOTE]
...are ex- Bernd's and I had memorable sessions with both. see;
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=614648&postcount=525( mahe)
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=730948&postcount=868[/url] (saki)
I have to say that I am impressed by the lineup, and the website looks very professionally done. If mahe and saki, both very intelligent and also excellent performers are working there now, it warrants a visit to check it out.
When I spent time with Saki back in April, she told me that her plans were to return to Sudbad and help with the "berndsification" of that club. I'm disappointed that she's moved out of the Hof group. Does anyone know if they went ahead with the plan to change Sudbad?
BTW- they are "getuned" and they are fabulous, along with the rest of her assets.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]Can someone confirm if the Mahe whose photos are on the Babylon website is the same Mahe who has worked at Bernds?
She is half Korean and half German.
A visit to this website also reveals that there is a Japanese woman who works there, Saki, who looks to be someone I should meet.
Her tits though look to be, as they say, [i]getuned[/i].[/QUOTE]
...are ex- Bernd's and I had memorable sessions with both;
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=614648&postcount=525[/url] (Mahe)
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=730948&postcount=868[/url] (Saki)
I have to say that I am impressed by the lineup, and the website looks very professionally done. If mahe and saki, both very intelligent, exotically beautiful and also excellent performers are working there now, it warrants a visit to check it out.
When I spent time with Saki back in April, she told me that her plans were to return to Sudbad and help with the "berndsification" of that club. I'm disappointed that she's moved out of the Hof group. Does anyone know if they went ahead with the plan to change Sudbad?
BTW- they are "getuned" and they are fabulous, along with the rest of her assets.
Website looks to be saying entrance is 35 euro's....not sure what the cost is for a half hour and an additional half hour though. Their extra charges seem to match PHG, GT and VV...25 cim, 50 anal....but I did notice a new charge that ive never run across myself...a 50 euro swallow charge. Not sure how they can add this on if all you wanted was a CIM?
.. by the way, isn't posting much on this forum but if you follow the RF (the Rhein version) it seems he has been making this club his second home.
There was a time when this club offered an excellent selection and a service mentality which was pretty difficult to top.
I have always held out hope that it would rebound and maybe it will this time suceed with new management.
Can anyone figure out the rates?
[QUOTE=Breadman]Can anyone figure out the rates?[/QUOTE]
Yes, just read this topic!
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=738499&postcount=112[/url]
You pay after you leave the club. Not after you have had a session with a girl. Mahe and Saki are now working in Babylon! That is indeed correct.
Regards,
Big30
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]If Chanel is back, I'm on the next flight to Dusseldorf/Koln.[/QUOTE]
The list of legendary women at Babylon is a long one.
Chanel was something else.
And then there was the incomparable Nina, who personified sex. Years after she quit there are still dudes on the RF trying to figure out what happened to her.
I was talking to Monika at Bernds when I was there two weeks ago. She is one of those women there whose career I've followed and we always have at least a short chat when I drop by.
I first met her at Wiago and then at Babylon. Then she made the switch to Babylon and she's been there at least two years now.
We did a walk on memory lane listing the women who worked at Babylon who she also knew.
When she mentioned Shirina, I let out an involuntary gasp. It caught the other women around us (and her) by surprise.
A friend of mine gets weak kneed just thinking about Shirina. She's now retired.
I sort of fell for this one girl working there called isabele. She is 5'3" and ybe 100 pounds soaking wet. 22, no piercings and was a total nymho like I have never experienced in a club. Her cousin fro poland saw her pics on the site, drove 1200 km and scared the shit out of her and she is out of the game after onl 8 weeks in. She was booked day and night at babylon, and I was guilty of multi-hour bookings as well.
i will miss her from the game, and I ight even head to poland at some time to visit her...she was just that good...a damn natural...
this cousin bust thing happened 2 hours after I had a 3some with her and a female friend of mine I brought with me to the club to give a 3some a try.....it was really a fun day until then....
I have been with Saki too, and her service and peronality are great.
The club is doing OK, I think Carmen is also quite attrctive.
I mean the club has more girls who do anal than virtually any other club I know. It still isn't a guarantee for a good day, but it is improving.
The manager Eddie is also not the typical club boss, he is a former customer and a former veterinarian, who somehow must want a more interesting life....
the food sucks though...but supposedly they are renovating the rooms soon.
[QUOTE=Peter]
The manager Eddie is also not the typical club boss, he is a former customer and a former veterinarian, who somehow must want a more interesting life....
the food sucks though...but supposedly they are renovating the rooms soon.[/QUOTE]
He is more than willing to listen to suggestions on how to improve the club and he follows through. He is, indeed, a former customer and knows what this club was like during its glory years.
Yes, areas for improvement include the food and the facilties which are about ten years old now.
The shower hardware needs to be replaced.
Every nook and cranny of this club brings back memories.
They once had an indoor pool in the basement. It was renovated maybe six or seven years ago and now has a seating area.
what I sometimes like about tese small clubs like babylon or heavensgate, or wildenrath in the old days or bernd's is the non professional homey feel of the club. You see the girls go back inot the kitchen and sit around the table nd complain about little things like their car needing to get repaired or a broken faucet at home. They grab a cookie, or a piece of cake, say a couple fo words and walk out...no glamorous talk, it is all very matter of fact....it is all, I just got back from having soe guy cum in my face, let me grab a quick glass of fanta because there is a guy out there waitig for me to shove a 10 inch dildo up his ass, and after that soe guy wo wants to lick my ass and then do me anal......
it seems really surreal, and has so many disconnects I find it fascinating.....
I mean places like Moulin Rouge or top strip clubs in the states make this giant illusion of untuchability and glamour around the women...the DJ announces her before the dance, you are seperated, you only see the outfit, the stage the lights, and then the DJ maybe says tat she will deign to allow herself to be available for private dances....well none fo that in these small clubs....normal girls who will fuck you for money, because they need money to get through the normal everyday problems that we all face.....
If you go to one of these clubs more often, and you have the type of personality that lends to it, you will be surprised how you sort of become part of the family.....a bunch of old girls from wildenrath are working at Trumparadies, or Monic still works at GT, and when I see them, for both it is like seeing an old friend....
[QUOTE=Peter]what I sometimes like about tese small clubs like babylon or heavensgate, or wildenrath in the old days or bernd's is the non professional homey feel of the club. You see the girls go back inot the kitchen and sit around the table nd complain about little things like their car needing to get repaired or a broken faucet at home. They grab a cookie, or a piece of cake, say a couple fo words and walk out...no glamorous talk, it is all very matter of fact....it is all, I just got back from having soe guy cum in my face, let me grab a quick glass of fanta because there is a guy out there waitig for me to shove a 10 inch dildo up his ass, and after that soe guy wo wants to lick my ass and then do me anal......
it seems really surreal, and has so many disconnects I find it fascinating.....
I mean places like Moulin Rouge or top strip clubs in the states make this giant illusion of untuchability and glamour around the women...the DJ announces her before the dance, you are seperated, you only see the outfit, the stage the lights, and then the DJ maybe says tat she will deign to allow herself to be available for private dances....well none fo that in these small clubs....normal girls who will fuck you for money, because they need money to get through the normal everyday problems that we all face.....
If you go to one of these clubs more often, and you have the type of personality that lends to it, you will be surprised how you sort of become part of the family.....a bunch of old girls from wildenrath are working at Trumparadies, or Monic still works at GT, and when I see them, for both it is like seeing an old friend....[/QUOTE]
... of what these smaller clubs are all about, Peter!
I'd much rather invest my time and money in them because you do become part of the "family", so to speak. You get to know them and they get to know you. There is less churn and turnover. And you do get a slice of life experience chatting with the girls.
The larger clubs are way too cold and impersonal for my taste.
The smaller clubs have talented amateurs or semi-pros; local girls with a financial objective who will have sex anyway whether it be with you or with someone else so their thinking is: why not make some money at the same time? The transactional hardcore professionals who want to "flip as many burgers" as they can and are less interested in creating relationships and a Stammkunde just don't put as much into it as these girls do.
I saw Anna at Bernds two weeks ago. She is formerly from Wildenrath and chatting with her about the girls who used to work at Wildenrath is like taking a walk down memory lane.
If you do get to see Monika at GT, say hi for her. They've not been in touch and she seemed to be eager to find out how she and the other former Wildenrath girls have been (GT doesn't do it for me so it will be a while before I return. I'll visit Blue Note several times over before I return to GT ).
[QUOTE=Peter]I sort of fell for this one girl working there called isabele. She is 5'3" and ybe 100 pounds soaking wet. 22, no piercings and was a total nymho like I have never experienced in a club. Her cousin fro poland saw her pics on the site, drove 1200 km and scared the shit out of her and she is out of the game after onl 8 weeks in. She was booked day and night at babylon, and I was guilty of multi-hour bookings as well.
i will miss her from the game, and I ight even head to poland at some time to visit her...she was just that good...a damn natural...
this cousin bust thing happened 2 hours after I had a 3some with her and a female friend of mine I brought with me to the club to give a 3some a try.....it was really a fun day until then....
I have been with Saki too, and her service and peronality are great.
The club is doing OK, I think Carmen is also quite attrctive.
I mean the club has more girls who do anal than virtually any other club I know. It still isn't a guarantee for a good day, but it is improving.
The manager Eddie is also not the typical club boss, he is a former customer and a former veterinarian, who somehow must want a more interesting life....
the food sucks though...but supposedly they are renovating the rooms soon.[/QUOTE]
A Vet runs a Brothel??? LOL. I went to Babylon last year, the place is a total shadow of what it used to be in 2001, the last time I visited the club in 2004, the women had clothes on. There was a Tunisian girl named Laila I met in 2004 and another tall German lady who had lived in Nevada, there was another young blonde German woman who was quiet, I ran into her again in 2007, she did not even recognize me. The German woman from Vegas this time was fully clothed and she looked like she put on weight. The quiet German girl was also still there. Too bad I could not run into Chanel a few years later.
Until September 14th, they have summer pricing. (After that, who knows?)
Entry fee is 50 Euros, a thirty minute session is 50 Euros and 30 minute extensions beyond that are 50 Euros.
They call it their 50-50-50 deal.
Babylon is still not up to the strength it once had as one of the best FKK clubs in Germany.
According to an announcement on the Youppie forum, this pricing arrangement was rolled over after its expiration date which was September 14th.
There is, by the way, an Afro-American chick who works there these days, La Toya. Her photo is on their website.
Babylon had a reduced entry fee yesterday for dudes who came to their Christmas party dressed in a Santa Claus suit: 1/2 price. A hat was not enough; full costume required.
If that dude did a strip tease dance, his entry was for free.
I'd attach a photo image but its too large to upload.
The current staff includes a couple of Romanian women and a couple of Frenchwomen too. I'd never met Romanian women at this club and to have Frenchwomen is quite new as well.
I do ask myself if the Pia who is named on the website is the same Pia who worked there way way back in 99. If yes, she's been at this a while. I'd run into her at Wiago and then afterwards she moved to Samya. She doesn't have any photos so it can't be confirmed.
No not the same Pia. This one I believe is Turkish, short, heavy, seems nice. Not the Pia of Nina's era.
[QUOTE=Iseki]No not the same Pia. This one I believe is Turkish, short, heavy, seems nice. Not the Pia of Nina's era.[/QUOTE]
Last I saw Pia she had been putting on quite a bit of weight.
She always was kind of sassy. Really funny once you got to know her.
I’ve been looking for an opportunity to get back to Babylon after all of these years, after hearing that its new management is committed to bringing it back to its former glory as one of the best of the NRW clubs. On a Thurs. a couple of weeks ago, I had about 5 hours free in the afternoon after a series of business meetings in Cologne so I went for a drive out to Elsdorf after not having been there for almost 3 years. It was Weiberfassnacht that day, the first day of carnival in NRW, and according to their website, they were having an all day Weiberfassnacht party which sounded promising. Despite my extended absence, I was able to drive straight to Elsdorf without the need for any navigation aids. There are some things your mind just never forgets.
I actually would have had more time for the club if not for the mad scene in Cologne that day. Masses of people walking In the streets, many streets closed off by police, major thoroughfares turned into one way streets, loud music blaring everywhere, etc. My meetings started mid morning and already there were crowds of drunk people in the city center. To get to my meetings which were held in an hotel and office near the DOM, I had to dodge hordes of drunk revelers in ridiculous outfits, while stepping on shards from broken beer bottles which littered the sidewalks and streets. Lots of pretty ladies in outlandish garb, but the low temperatures and vicious winds, kept everything covered up.
I had some commitments arranged for that evening and night and would have to leave by 7:30. I pulled out of the parking lot under the DOM at 2 p.m. but due to the crazy traffic situation, I didn’t get to Babylon until just before 3. I parked on the street to complete a phone call through my closed windows, could already hear the loud silly music which is a mainstay of the Carnival. That music once inside, was ear-splitting, hitting supersonic decibel levels and made conversation virtually impossible.
The facility hasn’t changed much over the years. The men’s changing area is now under the stairs and no longer on the 1st landing near the entrance. What used to be the men’s changing room is now the women’s changing area. From the lockers downstairs, there’s a sad excuse for a shower room, so I constantly showered in the circular shower all the way up in the upstairs bathroom. Instead of the pool, which they got rid of a long time ago, there’s a sunken area with bench seating, which gets little use. What is new in the basement, near the door leading to the small yard, is a very nice relax area with a couch, some armchairs, fake fireplace and a plasma TV. On the main floor, they’ve replaced the couches both in the buffet area and in the main lounge. Great buffet spread out, which could have been exceptional due to the party day. Those great big bedrooms upstairs are still there, but newly remodeled, and I had all of my 3 sessions in those. Not many changes since my last visit.
But that’s where the similarity ends. No naked woman to welcome me into the club and show me to the locker, although I did see this service provided later on to a first time visitor. Those incredible service standards that we all remember which made it into the top 3 or 4 of NRW clubs? Not very visible. The Bernd’s like scenes of debauchery on the couches in the lounge? There were 2 such scenes during the almost 3 hours that I was in the lounge, in both of which I was somehow involved. Those blonde and brunette nubile naked beauties parading around the room, then plopping into the first available lap? Nowhere to be seen. With the very loud carnival music constantly pounding away, there was little conversation and no banter between the barman, SP and customers which I remember as being one of the unique features about this club.
Due to the announced party, the place was hopping with mongers, but sadly, there were only 8 SP (Anita, Cassie, Kim, Leyla, Mandy, Minou, Pia, and one nameless whose picture isn’t on their website) in the house during my visit and with 20 or more mongers at all times, there was lots of waiting around while looking forlornly at men in towels. A number of the guys looked to be regulars, were well known by the staff and SP, and received cheerful welcomes and premium attention from the ladies. There seemed to never be women relaxing in the lounge, since almost as soon as one made her way into the lounge she was swept off to a room. The 2 SP that I was in particular hoping to see that day, Sabrina and Mahe were not in the house.
Not the way to revive a club.
Now, I don’t know if many of the regular SP didn’t show due to the festivities, but there was an announced party on their website and I assume from the food spread that they expected a larger than normal crowd,so they should have had proper staffing. And, while I am a firm believer that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, and given the right circumstances will dip my rod in almost any available pot, this was not a quality lineup in terms of looks. Certainly not reminiscent of the bevy of peroxide E. Europeans, and beautiful brunettes that this club used to be famous for. Fair not great. No ugly wenches but none that were spectacular either.
I was on a tight schedule and needed to plan well to fit 3 sessions in before my planned departure time. Saw a very beautiful dark haired spinner dressed as a Hawaiian dancer enter the lounge. Minou has a very pretty face, nice proportionate body, 32B, French/ German ancestry. She sat down not far away from me, so I called her over. Not the greatest conversationalist, but I sensed a spark beneath her reserved demeanor. No couch action at all. We went upstairs to one of those great big bedrooms with the great big bed. No DFK, no fingering, everything else OK. She gave a a fair BBBJ, slightly too long in the tooth, but OK, and pressed in for a quick closing. I demurred and went to town on her. As she began to get visibly excited she stopped the action and went back to working on me. At some point she rolled the condom on and climbed on top. She was hot and tight, but she had this reserved look on her face which was a turn off. I flipped her over, so I could look into her eyes and came at about the 35 minute mark and we laid there for another 5 minutes talking. So in total we were in the room for about 40 minutes, which she told me as we were leaving the room, and that she would charge a double session. She walked downstairs, without offering me a towel, so I went downstairs got myself a towel and went back upstairs to use the circular shower. Very unspectacular session and I thought to myself, certainly not up to the high standards that I would have expected at this club.
Luckily, that session was the low point of the day. Sat in the sauna, showered and ten enjoyed that great buffet and sat down in the main lounge. Not more than 10 inches away from me, and sharing the same small coffee table were Leyla and a German guy talking. Then they started kissing, then he she opened his towel and began jerking him off, then she climbed on to his head and he ate her out to her vocal delight, then she went down on all fours and sucked and sucked and sucked until he came in her mouth. When he was done, she motioned to me to hand her the tissues so she could empty her mouth. Instead I handed her one of those plastic party hats that were strewn around the room, and the entire room of people, who had been avidly watching the only show in town, cracked up as Leyla implored me with her eyes and hand motions to hand her the tissues, and I refused telling her to just spit it out in the hat.
Okay- that’s more like we had come to expect from this club in the past. I realized that if I didn’t take control of the situation, I would have to literally take matters into my own hand since there was no one in the lounge that even remotely seemed zimmer worthy. I had seen Mandy go off with a guy more than an hour earlier, but hadn’t come back yet. When I finally saw her enter the ladies changing room, I got up, waited and accosted her at the door to the girl's locker room to reserve a session. Nice person, very friendly, great attitude, Tall blonde, solidly built and with great smiling eyes. We sat on a couch in the buffet area, since this seemed to be her regular perch (I found out why- the 2 couches there are much more comfortable to sit on for long stretches than the couches in the lounge.), we talked and stroked each other’s arms for about 10 minutes, and then she said, I’d like to talk some more, but I’m booked for the rest of the day and if you want to go to a zimmer, now’s the time. So off we went again to the big master bedroom upstairs. She went right to her standard script, but I asked her to lie down and began to stroke down the length of her body. When I got to her feet, she sighed and really got into the massage/ toe sucking. I licked up her long legs to her honey pot and dove in. Very nice, but after a few minutes she asked me to stop, and began a similar treatment with me, stroking the length of my body then coming back to iseeu jr. I ended up spewing gobs onto her beautiful breasts. Nice session with a very nice girl who is constantly on demand. Another 40 minutes in the room, but this time there was no indication that I would be charged for the double session and I wasn’t.
I washed up again in the circular shower and went downstairs to the bar, where Eddy the owner was now holding court. He asked me my opinion and I told him how much we were all rooting for him to succeed in bringing the club back to its old self. I told him that so far from what I’d seen, it hasn’t gotten back to its old public raunchiness or service level. He said that I shouldn’t judge based on just one visit on a party day. Okay he has something of a point, but I would have expected that especially on Weiberfassnacht, a nonsensical holiday in which even the starchiest German lets his hair down, would be a chance for the club to show off its wilder side.
It was time for my last session and I knew that I wanted Leila, the only one of the current crop who seemed to remember and practice the free and open atmosphere that this club built its reputation on. I was sitting on one of the couches in the buffet area when she came back from a session and sat down in the lounge. I motioned for her to come and join me, she sat down splayed all over me hands in my crotch and we began to talk. She asked if I had been to the club before since when she saw me earlier I had looked familiar to her. I told her that we had gone to a zimmer together 4 or 5 years ago, but that I hadn’t been back to Babylon for almost 3 years. She told me that the club had almost totally died, but that since Eddy and his team had taken over, business was much better. She was then and still is a real fireplug- plenty of energy and no inhibitions. She opened my towel and began licking my balls, I asked her to turn around and dove down into her muschi. We became the only show in town. Eddy walked by and said some words of encouragement as did the thekefrau. After about 15 minutes of this, she suggested that we go to a zimmer so off we went, once again to that big upstairs bedroom. We get there, she lies down on her back, points between her legs, and says “continue” so I do. We had a wild, wild session, with multiple positions, falling off the bed at one point, lots of laughing and slurping. I’m not sure how I came, but I do remember ending the session with me giving her a body to body massage and foot massage, off the clock.
I showered again in the circular shower, went downstairs, dressed and paid for my sessions. Leyla saw me leaving and came over for a hug. Minou saw me and stayed where she was on the couch. Left a little after 7:30 p.m.
Summary: Its’ a good club, not great yet. Hands on management, decent physical facility except for those downstairs showers, some stars. It has a long way to go to reach its old stardom status, especially, if they don’t succeed in recruiting some more service oriented staff. I’ll wait for a bit before making a return journey, but, then I’ll keep my promise to Eddy to come back and check it out under more normal circumstances. Still, it will take some great turn of events for it to replace Bernd’s or even Oase at the top of my fave clubs list.
I would love to see this club come back but after reading Iseeu's report I'm also not surprised that it is still a work in progress.
It never was a large club selection-wise but a decade ago it had very good recruiting standards and it always was an edited selection. No filler like you see at the larger clubs.
They used to price services at a premium to any other club in the area and I used to pay that pricing willingly.
Eddy does an excellent job trying to connect with his German and French speaking clientele. He posts actively, runs free entrance promotions. He listens to what you say and will write you back personally if you have a comment to share.
Now if recruiting would just fall into place.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]
It never was a large club selection-wise but a decade ago it had very good recruiting standards and it always was an edited selection. No filler like you see at the larger clubs.
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I was just at Oase and someone pointed out a sign in the club saying it had just passed its 10th year. The scene has changed drastically over the last decade with the arrival of Oase and World...and in the last couple of years with Goldentime's conception. What other clubs might come along in the next couple of years...and what clubs might fade away? I was informed the same owner owned both locations that Oase and World now reside. With this economy, who's to say another 'mansion' or 'villa' type property might come available.
[QUOTE=Breadman]I was just at Oase and someone pointed out a sign in the club saying it had just passed its 10th year. The scene has changed drastically over the last decade with the arrival of Oase and World...and in the last couple of years with Goldentime's conception. What other clubs might come along in the next couple of years...and what clubs might fade away? I was informed the same owner owned both locations that Oase and World now reside. With this economy, who's to say another 'mansion' or 'villa' type property might come available.[/QUOTE]
Everything started out with Bernds and then there were the Red Carpet clubs in the Ruhr. So everything started out really small. Bernds has been around at least twenty years.
The trend over the years has been to larger and larger clubs with an emphasis on wellness facilities.
Someone should write a history sometime.
I'm not sure about the owner being the same of the locations of Oase and World. World used to be the villa of a furniture factory owner until it was bought and converted by HA in 2003.
Considering today's economic environment, launching a club these days would be an extremely risky venture.
[QUOTE=Iseeu]I’ve been looking for an opportunity to get back to Babylon after all of these years, after hearing that its new management is committed to bringing it back to its former glory as one of the best of the NRW clubs. On a Thurs. a couple of weeks ago, I had about 5 hours free in the afternoon after a series of business meetings in Cologne so I went for a drive out to Elsdorf after not having been there for almost 3 years. It was Weiberfassnacht that day, the first day of carnival in NRW, and according to their website, they were having an all day Weiberfassnacht party which sounded promising. Despite my extended absence, I was able to drive straight to Elsdorf without the need for any navigation aids. There are some things your mind just never forgets.
Summary: Its’ a good club, not great yet. Hands on management, decent physical facility except for those downstairs showers, some stars. It has a long way to go to reach its old stardom status, especially, if they don’t succeed in recruiting some more service oriented staff. I’ll wait for a bit before making a return journey, but, then I’ll keep my promise to Eddy to come back and check it out under more normal circumstances. Still, it will take some great turn of events for it to replace Bernd’s or even Oase at the top of my fave clubs list.[/QUOTE]
Hey Iseeu,
Thanks so much for your Babylon update, and so sorry for taking long to express my gratitude. Hectic schedule, and what not. I'm sure that you can relate.
I sure was hoping to read a bit more positive things about the place besides a well-booked Mandy, however your report still triggered a number of fond memories and I do plan on making an Elsdorf run when time allows.
You know, I never really had a problem with the facilities there. In fact I always found it to be more comfy that Bernd's and many of the Red Carpets by a long sight. The "new" changing facilities certainly don't sound like an improvement though.
Again, thanks for the investigative reporting.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hi everyone,
I am considering a trip to Babylon, which is more directly on my path later this week, but also love GoldenTime, which is much further out of my way, but probably worth it. Has anyone been to Babylon since Iseeu's report a few months ago?
Thanks all for any information you can provide!
BS
[QUOTE=Bacon Sandwich]Hi everyone,
I am considering a trip to Babylon, which is more directly on my path later this week, but also love GoldenTime, which is much further out of my way, but probably worth it. Has anyone been to Babylon since Iseeu's report a few months ago?
Thanks all for any information you can provide!
BS[/QUOTE]Hi Bacon Sandwich,
I was there on the 8th of May, service is as good as ever. Sheila with her lovely huge bottom, Pan with her hot service, there isn't a part of your anatomy she won't lick, Tamara lovely, and Tina nice service as well, but doesn't speak any language but maygar. I also was entitled to a nice BBBJ From Layla.
Have fun!
Out that way in the weekend, which club would be recommended?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Jbourne1234]Out that way in the weekend, which club would be recommended?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I've not been to Club M but there are a few ex-Bernds girls who now work there. It is run by Manuela who used to be a [i]Thekenfrau[/i] at Bernds.
Babylon was an all time favorite of mine until about 2005 when I had a billing dispute. There have been positive reports coming out of it since it has been under new management.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]
Babylon was an all time favorite of mine until about 2005 when I had a billing dispute. There have been positive reports coming out of it since it has been under new management.[/QUOTE]
Babylon, as depicted in recent reports on another board, does however have a few negatives going on at the moment, namely severe rennovation of the facilities and a penchant for not having a very extensive line-up early in the day. However, you are most correct to point out that there are some very positive girls working there, including an ex-Bernd's girl, Mahe, who won the bbbj Queen award from one of the prominent German boards... By chance, will we see JackyO visiting this club at anytime in the near future to give his assessment of Babylon in 2009?
Ortos
[QUOTE=Ortos]Babylon, as depicted in recent reports on another board, does however have a few negativesBy chance, will we see JackyO visiting this club at anytime in the near future to give his assessment of Babylon in 2009?
Ortos[/QUOTE]
An assessment will be appreciated as you mention Ortos, however this member for one is most pleased to once again see Jackyo's post and advice below. Greetings, Jackyo.
[QUOTE=Excess]An assessment will be appreciated as you mention Ortos, however this member for one is most pleased to once again see Jackyo's post and advice below. Greetings, Jackyo.[/QUOTE]
Yes, absolutely! I echo your sentiments...
Another point about Babylon: Never been there myself, however, on a recent visit to GT, I found myself sitting next to an ex-Babylon girl named Dhalia, or similar. I had previously heard of her reputation from other senior mongers a few months back, so when the unplanned opportunity arose and we started talking, I immediatly knew the door was open for a very hot hour...I walked through that door and was rewarded with one of the top sessions I've had in a long, long time. Quite an erotic girl with a top-notch service attitude. I really think you would have to try very hard not to be enamoured with this girl and have fully satisfying session.
My point: If she is representative of the type of service one receives at Babylon, then we should put it on the top of our clubs-to-try list! It's this type of session experience that, according to JackyO, one finds at the smaller fkks in/around NRW...
Ortos
[QUOTE=Ortos]Another point about Babylon: Never been there myself, however, on a recent visit to GT, I found myself sitting next to an ex-Babylon girl named Dhalia, or similar. I had previously heard of her reputation from other senior mongers a few months back, so when the unplanned opportunity arose and we started talking, I immediatly knew the door was open for a very hot hour...I walked through that door and was rewarded with one of the top sessions I've had in a long, long time. Quite an erotic girl with a top-notch service attitude. I really think you would have to try very hard not to be enamoured with this girl and have fully satisfying session.
My point: If she is representative of the type of service one receives at Babylon, then we should put it on the top of our clubs-to-try list! It's this type of session experience that, according to JackyO, one finds at the smaller fkks in/around NRW... [/QUOTE]
I know Dahlia (Germany) at Golden Time. Yes, there are a few seniors that have a liking for Dahlia's charms. She is pretty quick in between sessions in the ladies room but apart from that she seems quite popular.
I expect to be making my debut visit to Babylon in July but most probably August when I have a visit scheduled. I have an eye on the website and on recent reports of the renovations from various forums.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Ortos]Babylon, as depicted in recent reports on another board, does however have a few negatives going on at the moment, namely severe rennovation of the facilities and a penchant for not having a very extensive line-up early in the day. However, you are most correct to point out that there are some very positive girls working there, including an ex-Bernd's girl, Mahe, who won the bbbj Queen award from one of the prominent German boards... By chance, will we see JackyO visiting this club at anytime in the near future to give his assessment of Babylon in 2009?
Ortos[/QUOTE]
Hey Ortos,
It is on my list of clubs to drop in on in 09 but my current GF situation may not make this possible. Sigh...
There is something to be said for having regular sex with a chick who knows your every want and need. Being able to bareback her is a treat plus having a true GFE is not to be discounted either. I marvel at guys who write here that they can get a GFE from a chick in thirty minutes.
On the other hand, I miss the variety.
Yes, Jackyo, variety is the spice of life!
Agreed that the thirty minute GFE is an oxymoron, probably.
GFE as defined by working girls in Germany is - sex like your girlfriend gives you which is why you come to me for sex.
So, we shall be seeing you soon?
1) Babylon's web site is only in German version : I would like to make sure that a No German-speaking guy (me) can do something there
2) Does the club have places for sun bathes ?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]1) Babylon's web site is only in German version : I would like to make sure that a No German-speaking guy (me) can do something there
2) Does the club have places for sun bathes ?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I don't speak german and have never had any problems. Of the current lineup, I've only met Carmen. She speaks excellent english. Eddie (the manager/owner?) speaks very good english.
If you're asking about an out door area, not really. There's a very small area in the back but I don't recall seeing anyone out there.
FKK Babylon
Elsdorf, Nord Rhein Westphalia
Friday, 21 August 2009
Privatclub Babylon
Oststrasse 12
50189 Elsdorf
Tel. 0049 -(0) -2274- 90 55 88
[url]www.privatclub-babylon.de[/url]
Opening times:
Ma. - Do. 12:00 - 24:00
Vr. - Sa. 12:00 - 02:00
Zon. 14.00 - 22.00
Just off the A61 exit Bergheim
Prices in Babylon:
Entrance 50 €,
First 30 minutes € 50, a further 30 min 50 €, etc…
I did not enquire as to the cost of extras like CIM, Anal or COB.
Arrival 12:15
Departure 16:30
Time in club: 4 hours 15 minutes
I flew into Nord Rhein Westfalen (NRW) from my homeland. My flight cost me €5 one way so was a bit more expensive than I would like to pay. In the arrivals terminal I quickly sorted out 2 extra lots of euros from the Volksbank ATM to add to my residual euro stash from my visit to NRW 2 weekends ago. Sixti hired to me a BMW 118 which included a Sat Nav for €47.98 for 2 days. I had my own pre-programmed with hotels, pensions, bed & breakfasts, sauna clubs, partyteffs, FKKs, parenclubs, and brothels so I used my own Sat Nav.
The drive from the airport to Elsdorf took 1 hour 15 minutes. It was a nice drive and I was not in a hurry. I am on holiday. I arrived at Babylon at 11:40 and parked in the customer car park to the side of the building. The club opens at 12:00 so I sat in the car and read my historical novel which I had picked up in my homeland.
Eventually I decided it was safe to make an entrance. I went to the front door and buzzed the door and went through the security gate to reception. On finding that this was my first time in Babylon I was explained by the blond receptionist in English that Babylon was a naked club so men wore towels and women were naked or wore some lingerie. Entrance was €50 and included use of all the facilities and buffet food. Sessions with girls was €50 for half an hour. I was given two towels, one larger one which I assumed was the one that you wrapped around your waist and a smaller hand towel which I expected was the one that you used for drying yourself after a shower. The blond receptionist then took my name and wrote it on a card which I expect was my tally sheet for sessions which I would pay on departure.
The blond receptionist asked the only lady working Gabriela to show me around. Gabriela took me to the basement and showed me to my locker (number 3) and also pointed out the saunas, the whirl pool, the showers and the shoes. I was not sure where to get fresh towels from but saw in the laundry room that was in the basement that it was stacked with towels.
After I changed into naked and had showered I went back to the ground level and was taken in hand by Gabriela who got me a drink and showed me that I could help myself to the lunch buffet.
Facilities included a very large Kino and many couches and beds. I can see that this Kino is one of the best I have seen of any FKK or sauna club and is up there with Palace except there is no tiered seating. I spent an hour here just lying on a bed and lazily watched Private’s Uranus Experiment part II from 1999 with Silvia Saint taking it up the trade’s man’s entrance.
Babylon has a nice above ground whirlpool with places for 4 persons and maybe 8 at a squeeze if the other 4 were naked ladies. There was a nice few settings for bubbles, jets and a waterfall. The back garden is not overlooked, but the front garden facing onto the road I suspect is overlooked by the house across the street and the tour bus company adjacent since the fence is so low.
There is a bio sauna at 45 degrees Celsius and a sauna at 95 degrees Celsius. I saw Gabriela fuck a friendly German guy in the bio sauna after they had gotten frisky in the whirl pool. Gabriela had asked me to get into the whirl pool too but I though three was a crowd. These are good facilities. Babylon also has its own in house masseur. The locker room was clean and the lockers were large enough to fit your sports bag if you have to being that in as well.
Showers were all being done up nicely both in the basement and in the upstairs area. There is even a sun bed which is pay per use.
The lounge area for contact was quite stylish with couches all around and coffee tables for plates of food and drink. There was a bar and was also where the sound system was kept for the music selection. In the lounge area was also the single pole and podium for pole dancing by the girls. Eddy has done a lot of good work to improve the place.
I spent a bit of time in the back garden reading my local newspapers and enjoying the sunshine.
The hot food was available around 15:00 and it was nice with pork patties, potato fritters with toppings of either bacon and onion or smoked salmon and caviar. I sat with the German guy on the outside bench table in the garden that opens onto the lounge area.
The starting line up of 3 girls for 13:00 was down one girl who had called in sick. Gabriela was the only girl available at 12:00.
I was on the look out for Sabine (Germany) and also Mandy (Poland). I did not see Sabine and Eddie told me that Mandy like most of his Polish girls were on holidays. I was fine with this as I knew it being August that customer numbers were down and so the ladies would also be down in attendance as well.
Eddie and I chatted and I got to understand some of his insight into the business, the girls and what the club is like and will be like. There can be up to 17 girls on a top night and on party nights maybe 100 customers.
I think I will keep Babylon on my club circuit list and look in on how it going. I really like the facilities and I can see it is a good club. I really liked the Kino and would love to do sessions in that big and open room with couches and beds in abundance. Keep up the good work Eddie.
*** Line up before 16:30 ***
1. Anita (Romania), 21 years, a tender or sympathetic looking girl, light brown-haired, blue-green eyes and a C cup size breasts, 1.65 m tall.
2. Gabriela (South America), 24 years, quite a beauty with long black hair, dark brown eyes and a B cup size breast and Latina looks, 1.65 m tall and 54 kg.
3. Jessy? (Poland) 24 years young, blond, 1.60 m tall, blue eyes and A cup breasts.
4. Kim (Germany?), 29 years, tall blonde, leggy.
5. May (Thailand) 22 years, a pretty girl, slim build that speaks German and Thai.
[QUOTE=Basketcase]FKK Babylon
Elsdorf, Nord Rhein Westphalia
Friday, 21 August 2009
I was on the look out for Sabine (Germany) and also Mandy (Poland). I did not see Sabine and Eddie told me that Mandy like most of his Polish girls were on holidays. I was fine with this as I knew it being August that customer numbers were down and so the ladies would also be down in attendance as well.
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Thanks for the Babylon update!!!
Word on the street is that Sabine is back at Samya. Can't guarantee it though.
Cheers,
Dedalus
[QUOTE=Basketcase]FKK Babylon
Elsdorf, Nord Rhein Westphalia
Friday, 21 August 2009
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Did you session with anyone?
[QUOTE=Dedalus]Thanks for the Babylon update!!!
Word on the street is that Sabine is back at Samya. Can't guarantee it though.
Cheers,
Dedalus[/QUOTE]
Dedalus,
Thank you for the supporting comment on the write up.
I will be looking into Samya pretty soon on one of the better days of the week. Sabine is not listed on the Samya models list unless she is called something else at Samya. No problem. I'll see what I will see at Samya.
I am even considering Bernds.
[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]Did you session with anyone?[/QUOTE]
Ekliges Lauern,
Session? As in actually going to a room with any sex worker or performing in public whilst at Babylon with an orgasm ending by me? Sorry, then I left Babylon unpopped. A bit like what happened at Partytreff Onasbruck and Sauna club Acapulco.
I hope I have better luck at Samya [url]www.samya.de[/url]
and maybe also Pauschal sauna club [url]www.pauschal-saunaclub.de[/url] which are also on the trip schedule. I am building up confidence to visit Bernds [url]www.bernds-sauna-club.de[/url].
Definite visit venues so far are:
Golden Time [url]www.goldentime.de[/url]
Oase [url]www.fkk-oase.de[/url]
World [url]www.fkk-world.de[/url]
Villa Vertigo [url]www.villavertigo.de[/url]
Potential for Palace due to my arrival time in FFM. [url]www.the-palace.de[/url]
Grtz,
[QUOTE=Basketcase]Ekliges Lauern,
Session? As in actually going to a room with any sex worker or performing in public whilst at Babylon with an orgasm ending by me? Sorry, then I left Babylon unpopped. A bit like what happened at Partytreff Onasbruck and Sauna club Acapulco.
I hope I have better luck at Samya [url]www.samya.de[/url]
and maybe also Pauschal sauna club [url]www.pauschal-saunaclub.de[/url] which are also on the trip schedule. I am building up confidence to visit Bernds [url]www.bernds-sauna-club.de[/url].
Definite visit venues so far are:
Golden Time [url]www.goldentime.de[/url]
Oase [url]www.fkk-oase.de[/url]
World [url]www.fkk-world.de[/url]
Villa Vertigo [url]www.villavertigo.de[/url]
Potential for Palace due to my arrival time in FFM. [url]www.the-palace.de[/url]
Grtz,[/QUOTE]
BC,
When do you plan to pay a visit to Paschal sauna club?
I will be around this weekend and I will text you when I land to NRW.
Regards,
C2
[QUOTE=Creature2]BC,
When do you plan to pay a visit to Paschal sauna club?
I will be around this weekend and I will text you when I land to NRW.
Regards,
C2[/QUOTE]
I'll go when you and your travel companions go. I'll PM you.
[QUOTE=Basketcase]Dedalus,
Thank you for the supporting comment on the write up.
I will be looking into Samya pretty soon on one of the better days of the week. Sabine is not listed on the Samya models list unless she is called something else at Samya. No problem. I'll see what I will see at Samya.
I am even considering Bernds.[/QUOTE]
Goes by the name Leni at Samya. She's there now.
Cheers,
Dedalus
[QUOTE=Dedalus]Goes by the name Leni at Samya. She's there now.
Cheers,
Dedalus[/QUOTE]
Thank you Dedalus. You are a goldmine of information. I can see Leni / Sabine is working tonight, Friday and Saturday. I will make a trip to Samya. There is at least one guy I know who will around in Samya, he is a veteran of Samya, so I will go as his wingman.
I will provide a report of my premiere visit to Samya. I am told Leni / Sabine has one of the best proportioned and formed arses in NRW. I have got to see this!!!
Spent Wed evening until well beyond closing and had three very GFE like sessions with Stella, Tina, and Celina (Ro). It was a very slow night, but the girls were nice (6-8) and gave good service. 50 per 30 min, 50 for next 30 min, 25 for extras. Facilities were nice, plenty of room to relax, food was cold and not too good. I will write a more detailed report later.
after leaving duisburg and checking into a hotel near koln, i headed out to babylon in elsdorf, following my gps but not really knowing where i was going. not far off the main highway, my gps told me to turn left – but there was no left to be found, only a long steel barrier. nonetheless, there was another left about 800 m further down the road and my gps recalculated a route right to the bablylon door about 18:00 hours, with a bright blue neon sign, saying “sauna club”. although there was parking available on the street, i pulled into and parked in the gravel lot behind the club, lit with an overhead streetlamp. there didn’t seem to be many cars around, but i knew the club might be slow on a wednesday evening.
inside, i found spacious, nice facilities, after paying the 60 euro entry fee. the thekefrau (not bad looking, by the way) did not speak very much english, but asked one of the girls to explain the system and costs, then pointed me toward the lockers and showers in the basement. there i found good showers with plenty of water on a timed valve, half size lockers arranged up and down, but no shelf inside. the showers need a place for towel and toiletries, but i made due with a shelf next to an opaque window. upon donning my towel and coming upstairs, the girl that translated for me took me around the club where i found very large, well appointed rooms; a nice lounge on the ground floor, a nice sauna and whirlpool area in the basement (immediately adjacent to the showers), and a very large, well appointed kino upstairs. even though it was winter, i looked for and found nothing more than a very small fenced in area outside for summertime relaxation. as explained by my guide, babylon follows the nrw procedure – you must approach girl. they will not approach you, with some exception in the downstairs hot tub. when taking a girl and room to play, a key is issued with a number and girls report number, time, and extras to front desk where each customer runs a tab, checked out and paid upon departure (bernds system). eddie, the manager, is a nice, friendly guy, very attentive to customers needs. during my stay, i found the management was truly interested in their guest’s comfort and satisfaction, even though i found that few of the girls spoke much english.
food: peas, green beans, corn, beets, fish balls soaked in vinegar (tasted as narly as it sounds), canapés (good), café machine (good). the food layout could have been good, but everything was cold by the time i was there at 19:00 hours.
pricing 50 each 30 minutes (second 30 minutes is not discounted), 25 for standard extras, anal not sure but probably available for a higher fee. about a dozen girls were present, some wearing towels, a few nude, most looking totally bored. range 5-7, one 7.5 and a 9 (cheyenne). not there from my tdl were michelle, mahe, and christina. this was apparently a slow night on a wednesday evening and the only hobbyists were me and 2 guys most of the night. there was a group of four that came in for the evening, paid most of their attention to video machines, and did not take any girls. what’s up with that?
improvements to babylon would include: go to standard nrw pricing 50+25+25, even if just for specials or a special day of the week to battle nearby competition (samya, gt, villa vertigo, living room). have the girls interact with customers more, just introducing themselves without pressure to go to the zimmer (hesse procedure). warm up the common areas more so the girls walk around without towels.
sessions - all three gfe-like
cheyenne – i saw cheyenne sitting on the couch near the entrance, across from the food bar. she was a very pretty girl, cute, nice smile, slim, tanned, 34c. she was friendly and we talked a bit about ourselves and what we liked. she informed me that she only does cbj and does not allow daty. too bad, because that is not my style and i thanked her for talking with me.
stella of germany (service 8; looks 7.5; [url]http://babylon-privatclub.info/cms/front_content.php?idart=116&idcat=2&lang=1&client=1[/url]) – 5’9”, big, strong, girl with no fat, blonde short hair, pretty smile. i saw stella come out of the girl’s changing area next to the entrance desk, but i wasn’t sure if she had just started work, or had been there all the time. she seemed friendly, outgoing, and attractive, so i decided to approach her, after my introduction to cheyenne. stella was wearing a towel around her waist, but otherwise was nude in heels. as she leant over the front desk, eating her yogurt and talking with the thekefrau, i came up from behind and started a gentle massage of her back and neck, which she seemed to like, peeking over her shoulder at me and smiling. before long, the thekefrau brought some oil over to us and poured some into my hands to continue massaging stella. although spoken in german, there was a lot of kidding around between the nearby girls, the thekefrau, andh stella about the treatment i was giving stella, with the thekefrau was saying that she was next (and i would have oblidged).
before long and without saying anything, stella reached back under my towel and started playing with mambo and his growing interest, right at the front desk (now this is a much more promising start). and before long, stella also pulled her towel off and was rubbing mambo on her smooth ass, taking her time to tease, before turning around and giving me a nice dfk, with mambo peaking out of his hiding place while the girls watched. well how could i resist?
off to the zimmer upstairs, we finally found a room that was a little warmer than the rest, laying our towels down and resumed some dfk and mutual fondling. before long, stella had me on my back and began attending to mambo with her mouth. she had a nice technique, twisting her mouth as she withdrew, but not exceptionally deep, including some nice bls. while administering oral, stella applied a gummi on her fingers and started playing with my backdoor. inquiring whether it was ok, she proceeded to massage me from below while continuing her bbbj. some may find this technique unsustainable, but to me it is simply nice, not something that would bring mambo to a storming climax. after applying gummi to mambo, stella took a nice pounding in doggie and mish, followed by a satisfying cob finish onto her tits. we definitely went overtime into the second 30 minutes and with the cob finish, stella’s session cost 125 euro.
tina of hungary (service 9; looks 8; [url]http://babylon-privatclub.info/cms/front_content.php?idart=112&idcat=2&lang=1&client=1[/url]), 5’7”, dark hair, deep tan, 34b. tina came into the kino behind me and stood close behind, and asked if i might be interested in her. although i wasn’t quite ready after eating some food following my session with stella, i invited her to sit with me in the kino, while the movie was playing. although anyone could walk in on us, the kino was empty. after a bit of snuggling, tina swung around and began a nice bbbj with bls, first kneeling aside of me and then kneeling between my open legs, with plenty of room on the wide kino couches, followed by some enjoyable daty. tina tasted very clean and has nice meaty lips. after a bit, tina turned around again to continue her bbbj, before rising up to for some enjoyable dfk while rubbing her body on mine, at one point grinding herself on mambo. offering a gummi, she applied it with hand and mouth, then tried to insert a somewhat uncooperative mambo, even with a try in doggie position. whether she was pretty tight, or maybe mambo was still recuperating from his thorough discharge onto stella, i cannot tell. the trooper she was, tina re-intitiated her bbbj, but one thing that was becoming increasingly irritating to mambo was her frequent use of hands, with a jack hammer motion. well, this was not really going in the right direction, i could tell, yet i couldn’t get her to slow down and take it easy. as a result, we ended the 30 minute session, total cost 50 euro.
would i repeat? well under somewhat different circumstances and recuperative time – yeah.
selina of romania (service 7.5; looks 7; [url]http://babylon-privatclub.info/cms/front_content.php?idart=146&idcat=2&lang=1&client=1[/url]). after the kino session with tina, it was just after 11 pm and i decided to relax in the hot tub before leaving. i wasn’t looking to session again, since i already had been with four girls that day. sitting and relaxing for about 15 minutes, a pretty dark blonde girl came down, put her things on a table and took a shower. i thought oh well, she is just getting ready to go home. but after showering, she comes over and gets in the hot tub and sits in the jets on the other side of the tub. our feet touch and i lift her feet onto my legs, then begin giving her a foot massage. so far nice, but not committed to a session, which at that point i really didn’t think i had in myself, after the no babies performance with tina. after the foot rub, she comes over to me and starts rubbing her body on mine, taking her time and increasingly getting mambo interested after an hour or so after tina’s hack job.
selena gave nice soft dfks and was rubbing her body on mine underwater, even taking mambo between her tits, before suggesting we find a room. obviously, somewhere during this interaction, i had already committed to a session with selena, but i’m not quite sure exactly when that was – maybe somewhere between the foot rub and kiss? initially i suggested that we finish on the wide bed next to the sauna and hot tub in the basement, but selena declined, whether due to the excessive public location right next to the men’s shower, or due to the cold air, i cannot tell. no matter – we went upstairs and actually she led me to the wide bed at the back of the kino, where we continued our session. most everything went like the standard program for me with a nice soft bbbj (not deep, using hands) with bls, followed by 69, and sex in various positions, with an enjoyable cum inside selena. several times, i asked her how much time we had left, at first 14 minutes, then 10, which i though was within a very generous 30 minutes, since it was so late and selena seemed to enjoy the company. but when we finished, she indicated it was a double time session, costing 100 euro, including time in the pool. well, i really couldn’t argue, because by then it was 12:45 and most of the other girls downstairs had gone home long ago, but i had no idea of the passage of time during our session.
on checkout, the thekefrau asked for 225 euro, including the cim extra with stella. i said that i had not cim with stella. the thekefrau and eddie were going to bring out stella, but then i thought about it and with the cob finish (which may have been an extra), i didn’t think it would be worth haggling over the 25 euros.
total cost 225 euros plus 60 euro entrance.
i liked bablylon a lot (even in retrospect after visiting samya, bernds, and oase), but with a few slight modifications it could be a really nice, active club. if it were me, i’d tear out the parking lot in the back and replace it with a nice patio, small pool, and backyard sunning area. and with a modest change to the price structure, babylon could restore itself to its former heyday.
[QUOTE=Mambomike]
On checkout, the thekefrau asked for 225 euro, including the CIM extra with Stella. I said that I had not CIM with Stella. The thekefrau and Eddie were going to bring out Stella, but then I thought about it and with the COB finish (which may have been an extra), I didn’t think it would be worth haggling over the 25 euros.
Total cost 225 euros plus 60 euro entrance.
[/QUOTE]
Your 225 doesn't add up, are you sure you didnt pay 275? 125+50+100...
If you did pay 225 then one of the girls either forgot to write down your number at the desk or decided the hot tub time was free.
You are right. I must have paid 275.
[QUOTE=Breadman]Your 225 doesn't add up, are you sure you didnt pay 275? 125+50+100...
If you did pay 225 then one of the girls either forgot to write down your number at the desk or decided the hot tub time was free.[/QUOTE]
Is this place really worth visiting? I went here in 2001, it was my first FKK experience and blew me away, I went in 2007 and it turned into a dive with no girls.
It really depends on what you are seeking. If you are looking for another Oase, World, or Palace, Babylon is not for you. If you are looking for a relaxing, comfortable FKK where you can take things at your own pace, the girls are attractive (but not 9s and 10s), and the girls deliver pretty good service, then its worth a visit. Two of my three sessions were completed in the comfortable, very open upstairs kino. If you aren't into that, the rooms are VERY spacious and nicely appointed.
I think Bablyon would improve with more activity (both girls and guys) if Eddie dropped the second 30 minute price to 25 euro, even if only for special days.
[QUOTE=Australiasucks]Is this place really worth visiting? I went here in 2001, it was my first FKK experience and blew me away, I went in 2007 and it turned into a dive with no girls.[/QUOTE]
I really loved this club back in 2001, but seeing it six years later, I went during the weekday and only 2 or 3 average looking girls. The lineup in 2001 was amazing.
The Frankfurt clubs are really not my think although World and Oase are clubs that have to be seen for their size. I like smaller and more personal clubs. A Ukrainian blonde in one club used to honey to snare me and I must have seen her about 30 times during the month I spent in Germany three years ago.
[QUOTE=Australiasucks]A Ukrainian blonde in one club used to honey to snare me and I must have seen her about 30 times during the month I spent in Germany three years ago.[/QUOTE]
So you exercised some restraint then.......assuming this month had 31 days in it!!!
No i was there during a thirty day month, and kept stopping by the same club each day.
[QUOTE=Australiasucks]No i was there during a thirty day month, and kept stopping by the same club each day.[/QUOTE]
So what day did you skip?
[QUOTE=Breadman]So what day did you skip?[/QUOTE]
Not a single day, she was a fine piece of ass and we spent sometime outside the club.
[QUOTE=Australiasucks]Not a single day, she was a fine piece of ass and we spent sometime outside the club.[/QUOTE]
Didn't you write all about this a couple of years ago, when you were using the "CBGBConnisur" User Name? Correct me if I am wrong: Her name was Chanel, right?
Didn't you also reveal that you had a problem with drinking too much booze and were not completely rational/responsible when you posted here?
Anyway, along with some other guys, --what's that guy's name?: I'llBeWatchingU??-- I'd like to welcome you back. I'm glad I am not on your Ignore List. Hey, I'm your biggest fan; I even put you in the Reports of Distinction! :)
Ortos
Visited the latest addition to the FKK scene in Hamburg.
[url]http://fkk-babylon.com/[/url]
I made two mid-week visits and on the whole would give it a thumbs up. Here are some details.
It is located out of the city center, so it is nowhere near the rip-off tourist centers around Reeperbahn, but I would say it is definitely closer to the city than the older Atmos club and the 125 club. The first evening I took the S-Bahn out to Hammerbrook station and walked about 20 minutes from there. I wouldn’t say Hamburg is a dangerous city but the walk is through an industrialized area, first pass car dealerships and then past many trucking companies on Sudstrasse. Interestingly, there is an active population of street girls spaced out every 25 meters as you get within a few blocks of the club. They probably service the truck drivers. At the end of the evening the club called me a taxi and it cost 15 Euros back to the city center. On my second visit I took the S-Bahn to Berliner Tor station and a taxi from there was 7 Euros. In Hamburg I like using the S-Bahn and a day pass valid on all public transport is cheap.
Now to the club. The entrance is set back at the rear of the car park. When you walk in there is a long reception counter where you pay 65 Euros and get a robe, sandals and locker/safe key (buffet and nonalcoholic drinks included). To the side of the counter are doors to a VIP room which is where they will sell you outrageously priced champagne and have girls sit with you. Needless to say I didn’t try it. The next door takes you to the changing room and showers. All clean and well laid out. Then starts the tour of the club and my first impression was that it is huge and easy to get lost in. There is one very large main room with a bar and stools, a rarely used dance stage plus a large split level area with pool, sauna, steam and deck chairs and sports massage area (funny chalk sign outside the massage room says No Blowjobs, No Handjobs – massage only). From this one giant room lead several darkened corridors leading to what seems to be hundreds of private rooms where you can take your girl. There is also a Kino with porn movies and lounges where as soon as you sit down some of the more aggressive girls will try and convince you to have a blowjob on the spot.
My main criticism of the club is the size of that main room doesn’t lend itself to any sort of cosy ambience. When I first got there I tried the sauna, steam and shower and then wanted to sit and relax to slowly get in the mood. The problem is deciding where to sit and browse the selection of girls who tend to be spread out in little clusters around this big room. Unfortunately, midweek at least, the pole dancing stage is unused, otherwise I would have just parked there and watched the passing parade. So the choice is either sit at the bar and have girls approach you, or walk around and conspicuously check out the girls sitting around. I sort of did both.
On the plus side the club is all new and shiny and the private rooms are quite nice. The main thing of course is the quality of the girls. There was definitely a broad range of international talent. You get the feeling that there are not many girls because the size of the place makes it appear empty. The less attractive, plumper and older ones seem to stick out but probably because they are more desperate and approach you first. There are also some in the 7 to 8 range and I found an attractive, young and slim Bulgarian girl who was well endowed. Standard session price is 50 Euros all covered, with extras negotiable. For my second session I found a very attractive Hungarian girl who was an uncanny look alike for Sandra Bullock and a sense of humor as well. We chatted for quite a while before ending up in one of the private rooms. She also introduced me to an intriguing looking girl who was half Korean and half Russian. She had this habit of doing cat stretches on the balustrade between the pool area and the bar area which I told her I enjoyed watching very much. By the way, the Sandra B girl asked for 20 extra at the end of the session because of the extra time I took for DATY.
On my second visit to the club I was quite comfortable knowing my way around and felt quite relaxed just sitting at the bar waiting for the perfect girl to come by, hoping also that the cat lady would reappear. The bar girls seemed to sense that as well and would come by to proposition me, do a little lap dance and move on once it was clear that I was still looking. At one point a little blonde sat on the next stool and we chatted. The chat turned into a long conversation since she could also speak English quite well. (Word of warning, this club caters mainly to the local Germans so there is no guarantee that all the girls speak English). She turned out to be Brazilian and quite delightful to talk to and we soon got on to topics like our mutual love of DATY. She had one foot up on the bar stool to show me how smoothly shaved she was. At this point she suggested we have a little try out in the Kino and if I liked it we could move on to a room. The cat lady had not shown up, so why not. The Kino session was very stimulating but I’m not into the public sex scene much so we soon retired to a private room. My ranking of her increased from a 7 to an 8 once we go into the body to body kissing business and I just gorged myself on licking and fingering a really beautiful tight young pussy. Really a pleasure with such a cooperative girl. After our session we were still lying around and she got all chatty again telling me about life in Brazil and her family and so on. I encouraged her because it’s a lot of fun stroking a naked girl on top of you while she chats away. You have to be aware though that in this situation the taxi meter is still running, but I figured what the heck I was having fun and was going to be looking for a second session that evening anyway. My intuition paid off because after half an hour she asked if she could try and bring me back to life with a BBBJ. We ended with a wonderful 69 and BBBJTCIM. The entire session lasted one and a half hours and so I paid her 100 Euros for the 2 pops. The only sour point was when she asked for a whole lot more and I said no I only pay for the sex and not the chat sessions in between, which she grudgingly accepted and we parted.
I did run into the cat lady in the locker rooms on my way out, where she was collecting money from a customer. I said I hoped to see her again.
In conclusion, I will return to this place on the basis that the number of customers is likely to increase with time and this will in turn attract more girls. One day it might even rival the fkk scene in Frankfurt.
[QUOTE=Ortos; 996714]Didn't you write all about this a couple of years ago, when you were using the "CBGBConnisur" User Name? Correct me if I am wrong: Her name was Chanel, right?
Didn't you also reveal that you had a problem with drinking too much booze and were not completely rational / responsible when you posted here?
Anyway, along with some other guys,.what's that guy's name? : I'llBeWatchingU- I'd like to welcome you back. I'm glad I am not on your Ignore List. Hey, I'm your biggest fan; I even put you in the Reports of Distinction! .
Ortos[/QUOTE]I recently went here during a trip to Germany in December, the "Chanel" working here is a different woman, the one here is in her 20s. The Chanel I met during 2001 would be 34 today.
I am considering a visit to Babylon in the next few weeks.
I am attracted by the belief that it is a true FKK at Cologne prices: but concerned with a few reports that suggest that girls may be a little sharp with the upselling.
Does anyone have any recent experiences?
Thanks,
PL
[QUOTE=Plover 23; 1114603]I am considering a visit to Babylon in the next few weeks.
I am attracted by the belief that it is a true FKK at Cologne prices: but concerned with a few reports that suggest that girls may be a little sharp with the upselling.
Does anyone have any recent experiences?
Thanks,
PL[/QUOTE]I haven't visited in the last year or so, but I see that Laura (DE) is back. My visits with her didn't include any upselling.
[QUOTE=Plover 23;1114603]I am attracted by the belief that it is a true FKK at Cologne prices:[/QUOTE]What do you mean by Cologne prices? As in the second half hour is 25, cim 25 etc? If so, from what I've heard they operate on the higher Frankfurt prices. But that was years ago from Jackyo.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1114910]What do you mean by Cologne prices? As in the second half hour is 25, cim 25 etc? If so, from what I've heard they operate on the higher Frankfurt prices. But that was years ago from Jackyo.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I should have been explicit. I have used the phrase "Cologne prices" in a number of reports, including for PSR, and Planet. In my view Cologne tends to have a price point between Dusseldorf and Hessen, as follows.
I know this is not universal, but in general I would categorise:
Dusseldorf / general NRW prices as €50 first half hour, €25 second half hour, €25 most extras excepting anal.
Cologne prices as €50 first and every half hour, €25 most extras etc.
Hessen and BW / Bayern prices €50 first and every hour, €50 most extras etc.
As I say this is a generalisation, but I have not met this interim price point formally except around Cologne. Mind you, as we have all discovered to our annoyance, there are plenty of girls at GT who seem keen to adopt what I have called the Cologne pricing model.
Have Fun,
PL
[QUOTE=Plover 23; 1114946]Sorry, I should have been explicit. I have used the phrase "Cologne prices" in a number of reports, including for PSR, and Planet. In my view Cologne tends to have a price point between Dusseldorf and Hessen, as follows.
I know this is not universal, but in general I would categorise:
Dusseldorf / general NRW prices as €50 first half hour, €25 second half hour, €25 most extras excepting anal.
Cologne prices as €50 first and every half hour, €25 most extras etc.
Hessen and BW / Bayern prices €50 first and every hour, €50 most extras etc.
As I say this is a generalisation, but I have not met this interim price point formally except around Cologne. Mind you, as we have all discovered to our annoyance, there are plenty of girls at GT who seem keen to adopt what I have called the Cologne pricing model.
Have Fun,
PL[/QUOTE]PL,
I would beg to differ on your description of Koln FKK price point as being between DUS and Hessen. I buy the geography part but not the pricing scheme! Koln prices are the same as DUS FKK, e.g. 50+25 then 50+25 per additional hour. That's the standard at Samya and PSR. There are some exceptions at GT and VV where a few girls who know they are in high demand ask for 100 / hr but that is in principle against house rules.
Cheers,
WW
[QUOTE=Woof Woof; 1114950]PL,
I would beg to differ on your description of Koln FKK price point as being between DUS and Hessen. I buy the geography part but not the pricing scheme! Koln prices are the same as DUS FKK, e. G. 50+25 then 50+25 per additional hour. That's the standard at Samya and PSR. There are some exceptions at GT and VV where a few girls who know they are in high demand ask for 100 / hr but that is in principle against house rules.
Cheers,
WW[/QUOTE]PSR is €50 per half hour.
[QUOTE=Plover 23; 1114946]I know this is not universal, but in general I would categorise:
Dusseldorf / general NRW prices as €50 first half hour, €25 second half hour, €25 most extras excepting anal.
Cologne prices as €50 first and every half hour, €25 most extras etc. [/QUOTE]I'm stumped. I've never been to a club in Cologne that charged 50 for every half hour and then 25 for cim. Never. Can you tell me what clubs in Cologne do this? Or are you trying to come up with a term to describe what some girls at GT might try to charge?
Here's what I know:
Samya is 50+25 for an hour. 25 for cim.
Bernds is 50+50 with cim free.
PSR. Never been there, don't plan on going anytime soon.
Planet. Never been there, plan on trying it out. Expect to pay 50+50 since its owned by the World crue.
Finca. 50+50 and 50 for cim. 100 for anal.
Babylon. Never been there but heard its 50+50, not sure about cim or anal.
Some forum's have poll functions. This would be an interesting poll to see how many guys out there would pay 50 for the second half hour if the girl told them after the fact that she charged 50 instead of 25 (if your at a club that normally only charges 25 for the second half hour). How many would take it to the front desk, how many would exchange the 25 for a 50.
Yes, I can concur with Breadman's prices.
At Samya the rule seems to be 50-25-back to 50-25, and so on. Was told this by several girls.
Of course, Finca's not NRW or Hessen.
[QUOTE=Toscana; 1115514]Yes, I can concur with Breadman's prices.
At Samya the rule seems to be 50-25-back to 50-25, and so on. Was told this by several girls.
Of course, Finca's not NRW or Hessen.[/QUOTE]Doing some research for my next trip and ran across their website. I'll be in that area so figured I'd take a look at the club layout, unfortunately they don't have club photo's on their website. Looks like they have them on their own personal forum, little that helps when tourists are looking into their club. What is nice is their 'free 10 minute' deal. If you don't like what you see, you get a refund.
Also ran across an 'extra's' section but can't make out what exactly is extra. Can someone translate?
[QUOTE=;]Extras werden von den Damen wie folgt aufgeschlagen: Analverkehr +50 Euro, Aufnahme +25 Euro, Schlucken + 50 Euro, NS +25 Euro.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Breadman; 1181193]Doing some research for my next trip and ran across their website. I'll be in that area so figured I'd take a look at the club layout, unfortunately they don't have club photo's on their website. Looks like they have them on their own personal forum, little that helps when tourists are looking into their club. What is nice is their 'free 10 minute' deal. If you don't like what you see, you get a refund.
Also ran across an 'extra's' section but can't make out what exactly is extra. Can someone translate?
Extras werden von den Damen wie folgt aufgeschlagen: Analverkehr +50 Euro, Aufnahme +25 Euro, Schlucken + 50 Euro, NS +25 Euro.[/QUOTE]Anal +50, Cum in mouth +25, Swallow +50, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] +25
[QUOTE=Gooroox;1181328] Cum in mouth +25, Swallow +50 [/QUOTE]
Don't think i've ever run across this type of charge before. Usually its up to the girl to spit it out or swallow the cum if you opt for cim. Not sure how you'd tell the girl whether to spit or to swallow.
[QUOTE=Gooroox;1181328]Anal +50, Cum in mouth +25, Swallow +50, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] +25[/QUOTE]Some girls swallow for free.
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Going there tomorrow (Saturday) , but Planet is even closer. Any suggestions, updates, anything I need to know?
Reading reports from Atmos that BBBJ is 20 euro's extra, was wondering if this was also true in Babylon?
[QUOTE=Breadman;1231369]Reading reports from Atmos that BBBJ is 20 euro's extra, was wondering if this was also true in Babylon?[/QUOTE]Yes, it is the same thing.
[QUOTE=Vompat;1232993]Yes, it is the same thing.[/QUOTE]What Babylon you are talking about? Babylon in Hamburg, or Babylon in Elsdorf near Köln?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1233106]What Babylon you are talking about? Babylon in Hamburg, or Babylon in Elsdorf near Köln?[/QUOTE]I think he refer to Babylon in Hamburg,
Any update lately from Babylon in Hamburg.
Last time I when there the line-up and numbers of girls was bad, only 8-10 girls.
Looking at the origins of this thread it is about the NRW Babylon.
I have been lucky enough to win a free entry ticket to the club. Is it worth going?
Anyone got any reports?
[QUOTE=London Traveller; 1315446]Looking at the origins of this thread it is about the NRW Babylon.
I have been lucky enough to win a free entry ticket to the club. Is it worth going?
Anyone got any reports?[/QUOTE]I myself have not been there, but if I were to think creatively on the question of which new NRW club to try, I would place Elsdorf-Babylon on the top of my list.
For whatever reason (s) , reports about this club on ISG seem to be rare. By contrast another board that is generally weaker than ISG on FKK reports, seems to be the best source about Babylon in English: ignatzmice. com does offer some rather extensive and articulate reports from a Belgian guy named Gaston. Check threads over the past two years.
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[QUOTE=London Traveller; 1315446]Looking at the origins of this thread it is about the NRW Babylon.
I have been lucky enough to win a free entry ticket to the club. Is it worth going?
Anyone got any reports?[/QUOTE]LT,
I have been once to Babylon and I would not return again. The manager / owner is a friendly guy. Happy to chat to the guests since if I recall correctly he used to a customer himself until he went into business doing what he enjoyed. The club has everything, sauna, jacuzzi pool, large kino room playing porn movies, buffet food side bar, drinks bar (served by a working girl who is available), a small garden and a courtyard. Rooms a nice. It is really a large house in suburbia converted into a brothel. The girls were friendly but did not push or approach in a pressured way. You can see on the Babylon website pictures of the girls that they have in their line up. If you are used to the extensive line ups of Oase and Golden Time then Babylon may be a let down. YMMV.
[QUOTE=Yakob; 1315496]LT,
I have been once to Babylon and I would not return again. The manager / owner is a friendly guy. Happy to chat to the guests since if I recall correctly he used to a customer himself until he went into business doing what he enjoyed. The club has everything, sauna, jacuzzi pool, large kino room playing porn movies, buffet food side bar, drinks bar (served by a working girl who is available) , a small garden and a courtyard. Rooms a nice. It is really a large house in suburbia converted into a brothel. The girls were friendly but did not push or approach in a pressured way. You can see on the Babylon website pictures of the girls that they have in their line up. If you are used to the extensive line ups of Oase and Golden Time then Babylon may be a let down. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Yakob,
You have painted a rather appealing portrait of the place. Why wouldn't you return?
LT
[QUOTE=London Traveller; 1315763]Yakob,
You have painted a rather appealing portrait of the place. Why wouldn't you return?
LT[/QUOTE]If you like what has been described then you should go visit. Each person is different. Babylon's line up did not work for me. YMMV.
Did visit Babylon several times, and it is a small but precious club IMHO. In NRW I would prefer it over the big clubs (GT / LR / PHG / VV / etc) because it is one of the few clubs in NRW that are known for high service level of the girls (together with Schieferhof, Freude and Residenz). The presence & service list on their website is very accurate, and, like Freude and Schieferhof, explicite foreplay in the living room is considered normal. Pity they don't have a garden, so with this weather ( 30 celsius) you better go to the bigger clubs in Hessen.
Is wi-fi available for the customersatBabylon (Elsdorf)?
I doubt wifi is available, was there Friday and didn't see anyone with phones, tablets or laptops. The fact it's all Hessen dress. Unlike the clubs in Hessen. Also means there is no place to keep you phone. Great club BTW, sort of a Bernds with younger girls. The pics on the site aren't very flattering in my opinion. Arielle was awesome (27 years old, but looks 20. So you are fucking a 20 year old that knows what she is doing) , only to be overshadowed with the best girl in the house: Alexa. I think I was lucky she wasn't booked up with regulars. Beautiful Katharina would have been more than ok on most days, but can't compare to the other two.
I had a good time in Babylon last Tuesday. At first I came for Blanche and Elli, but Blanche stopped working in Babylon a few weeks ago. Had some problems with the buses so I had to walk through Elsdorf. In the hall, I was greeted by a bunch of hot naked ladies (including Lori, Kathrina and Tania) and Elsa showed me the place.
I choosed her for my first round (1h) , and after some deep kisses on the couch we went in a room. The girl does everything good, she's hot but she's faking too much : "du bist so gut baby" "your cock is so good" every 30 seconds. Deep french kisses, BBBJ, many positions but I wasn't excited enough so I didn't cum. After some rest, Lori proposed to suck me in public, I declined and I started chatting with Katharina (27 yo, classy face, tanned, little but beautiful boobs, long black hair, thin, perfect legs) and we went to a room behind the kino for 1 hour.
Her kisses are a little short for my taste but she likes to play with her tongue. She doesn't like her face to be caressed. Good BBBJ, sweet sex in many positions (had some problems in cowgirl because I was "too big" for her as she said) , made me cum in her hand. Really beautiful lady! Spend some time looking at the ladies (chatting with each other) : Sabrina, great body, great abs but her nose is a little too long, Mona Lisa, chubby but hot, Jeannette, too much tatoos, Genny, cute, Adriana, perfect body but has the face of a 14 yo (she spent a long time sleeping in the kino). Unfortunately Tania (hot 35 yo blonde german) left. I met some french speaking belgian guys and too fellow "youppienautes" from France who gave me good advices about the Babylon (we had the same thoughts about Elsa). They introduced me to Eddy, the Cheffe.
I had talked to Elli before while she was playing the jackpot machine, and she sat next to me, finally smiling, and proposed me to go a room (1h). The girl is perfect looking (her skin is darker than on the website, she had no blue lenses, and has now flower tatoos) and she's ultra-GFE. Deep and long kisses (unfortunately I could taste the last cigarette) , BBBJ, and sweet sex in many positions (she asked me to go slowly). Finished in her hand. I got back to my new french friends, they advised me to go with Alexa or Lori but I was a little tired. Adriana, Delia and Arielle made a great show on the pole (Delia has some massive natural boobs, but sagging and Arielle has great abs, maybe a little too thin).
Naomi was trying to seduce me (in a friendly manner, not aggressive) but I'm not really into black girls. While I was waiting for my new french friend to finish his session with Mona Lisa (he had kindly agreed to take me back to Cologne) , I was sitting on a stool between Arielle and Naomi, Naomi was massaging my neck and Arielle had her great legs on my lap. I declined their approaches but they stayed very friendly. Then my friend came back and we left at about 11 pm, with a kiss from Katharina and Elsa (Elli had left before).
So I had a good time in Babylon, the place is nice, the girls are hot even if they lack in numbers, they offer a good service, the boss is funny, maybe it was a little too calm this day. Too bad that the trip back to Cologne is uneasy with the public transportation.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1322789]Is wi-fi available for the customersatBabylon (Elsdorf)?[/QUOTE]I've taken my laptop into Babylon and used its Wifi to check my email. You have to ask for the password.
Babylon was in my to-do list for a couple of years. But always I changed my planes last moment. In most of cases for Samya, that is one of my favorites.
I booked Ibis-Budget (Ex-ETAP) in Duren. So if I don't like it Samya is not far away and Planet could be as a back-up.
I arrived at about 5:00 PM on Thursday. I cannot say anything about public transportation because I always rent a car. Thekefray was friendly with basic English. But hearing my accent she asked whether I speak Russian or not. I do, so we switch to Russian. She called Ariel to show me around.
It is a small club. Because it is described well I will not sharp my attention. When I enter to main room I count about 12 girls. As per website 18 girls were on duty, so it seems right. Lineup is far below than Acapulco, where I spent day before. But it still FKK standard. No 9-10ts but no uglies as well. All girls were naked. Very cozy and friendly atmosphere. Plenty of food. Regrettably food is served once and get cold after a while.
Animation allowed but girls are not pushy at all. Because of good weather and lots of seats at the yard it was no problems with sitting places. But I assume at winter time it might be a problem.
First day three girls. All of them listed on their website: Naomi, Ina, Laura.
After DFK Naomi proposed DATY, and I understand why. After 5 minutes of DATY she naturally squirted. She was even proud of that. This is first time I saw the girl who squirts from DATY only without any finger clit stimulation.
All three session were OK. I wouldn't say that service was excellent as described here and on German forums. I would say all three girls were diligent, but BBBJ and other skills were just average or a bit above average.
Because of wi-fi available time between sessions was not boring. Girls did not disturb me while I was with my tablet, but smiled and approached is I put my tablet away. It was so comfortable so I decided to stay there two more days.
But Friday was a bit disappointing. About 15 girls and 20 men were there when I arrived. But at about 7:00 PM it was increased to 25 gazelles and 35-40 polar bears. This is already crowd for such a small place even including garden. I arrived at 3:00 PM and managed two sessions. Jeanette (MILF with excellent body) and very slim Ariel.
At about 8:00 PM I put my tablet back and went to the hunt. No girls I who attracts my attention paying any interest to me. Few girls sit bored and made me looks and smiles, but none of them were of my type. I approached Alexa, she smiling excuses that she is with the man he is just walk away for the second. After I approached Cecilla. Same shit. My last try was with the girl I even don't get a chance to ask he name. She kissed me and said that she already promised zimmer to her permanent customer.
Well. I was not hungry for sex. There sessions in Sharks, three in Aca, three here a day before, and two today looks like enough. But I went out there a bit upset.
But no complains. This is local club, and local returning guys are more valuable for the girls and strangers. I can understand that. But definitively do not repeat third day in line.
In general. I could recommend that club under certain conditions:
1. You are not optichkfikers, You are OK with nice looking girls but not models
2. Don't go the Fri and Sat.
3. I am not sure what to do there in winter time.
Will I return? "Yes" is more likely than "no" if weather is good.
Next day I spent in Planet Eden (Duren) and was positively surprised.
Got to love this. Any other smaller FKK's offer something similar?
[QUOTE]Admission.
10 minutes get a whiff. Free[/QUOTE]
I know and I practise this girl for more than two years, Golden Time and Living room, and now Babylon. And her service degrades without going back up. Not well for the club. So why? In the beginning at GT, Eugenia was a charming novice Rumanian girl of 23 or 24 why. And I had often well enjoyed with her even if she had no level of a porn-star. I was sometimes left unsatisfied because she did not make all that I wanted but I took some pleasure to corrupt the young lady and learn her vicious life, she's called Eva now. I rented her when she had just arrived in Babylon, and I wanted to check her a new time (50 euros for 30 mn). I found that she was tired and not concentrated, her activity became commonplace and without excitement. Problem in this club? I observed it with other customers that she took in room not only this day and who, after ask, were not really satisfied as she does "like a robot". We really feel that she forces to smile, speak and to work. I am sure that she does not like sex and should think of change of job. Girl's kind which becomes a bad pro in time, interested only in the money, and which loses her freshness and spontaneity. Too bad.
I visited FKK Babylon last Friday afternoon.
It was nice weather and about 15 girls were available. Not that many mongers were there, I think at any time there were less men than women, although around dinner time some more men came in.
There was a fair choice of women, most of them East Europeans I gather and one African girl, Katja.
I heard her speak French to someone, so once she was free, I sat next to her and had a nice chat with her in French. She has quite a bubbly attitude and she slowly but surely became more intimate, not rushing things but touching here and there and allowing to be touched as well. When she noticed the little wolf was reacting to her touches she suggested we go to a room. I happily obliged. Once in the room, we hugged and DFK-ed a lot. She is a great kisser and she has very smooth skin. Her breasts are A-size but firm and her nipples just beg to be licked and sucked. It was a delight to lick my way down from her breasts to her shaven pussy. I gave that pussy a good fingering and licking and she gave all the signs of cumming. Then it was her turn to take care of me. More kissing, licking of my nipples (which excites me very much) and a sweet hand-job finished the first round. Cleaning up and we rested in each others arms until little wolf stirred again. This time I got to sample her pussy in the proper way: tight, hot and wet, my dick just slid in and out in a most delicious way until I came in missionary. Just the sight of her dark pussy lips around my dick took all effort not to come on the spot. Timing is everything and I finished just before the hour was over.
Then I took some rest, visiting the sauna and jacuzzi, reading a book, watching the comings and goings and I had some dinner. To finish my visit of FKK Babylon, I scheduled another 30 minutes with Katja, this time enjoying her considerable skills of fellatio ("Je suis la reine du fellation" she told me and indeed that is not exaggerated: deep, wet and not forgetting your balls, I had to ask her to stop or I would have cum in her mouth) and then I suited up and fucked her in doggy style. She builds up a good rhythm and I played with her tits while my dick went deeply into her sweet and wet pussy. For the third time she made me cum, surprising even myself. Thank you Katja, it was a most nice experience and I profoundly enjoyed this afternoon with you at FKK Babylon.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1463608]It was nice weather and about 15 girls were available. Not that many mongers were there, I think at any time there were less men than women, although around dinner time some more men came in.
There was a fair choice of women, most of them East Europeans I gather and one African girl, Katja.[/QUOTE]Pity we did not meet up, I was there too at the same time.
Indeed enough girls for the mongers present, but I found the quality of the line-up not so great. Only Kitty, Monica, Katja, and few others rate "good" or better, but (too) many new girls that can NOT cope with the normally so high service standard in Babylon (Diana, Paula, Eva, Sascha, Sandra, etc).
Let's hope the line-up gets better coming weeks.
Would someone please explain where the club's private parking is? I went by the club once and rode up and down the block looking for the proper place to park. I almost parked across the street but it appeared that parking was set aside for some apartments and a playground. The website says to use the rear entrance and that private parking is on the street behind the club. Does this mean that you enter the driveway of the club and park behind the building or is there an actual street behind the club to park on? I seem to remember houses running along the back of the club.
[QUOTE=Burma Jones;1468437]Would someone please explain where the club's private parking is? I went by the club once and rode up and down the block looking for the proper place to park. I almost parked across the street but it appeared that parking was set aside for some apartments and a playground. The website says to use the rear entrance and that private parking is on the street behind the club. Does this mean that you enter the driveway of the club and park behind the building or is there an actual street behind the club to park on? I seem to remember houses running along the back of the club.[/QUOTE]Yep, behind the building.
[QUOTE=Free Dude;1468456]Yep, behind the building.[/QUOTE]And the entrance to this parking is on the left side of the building (when you stand in front of it) , sometimes cars are blocking this entrance, but normally you could you drive through the gate.
My goal for the day was to visit 3 new clubs, Sixsens, Babylon, and PSR. Arrived at Babylon around 7 pm. I believe the club closes around midnight so 7-8 pm should be prime time for the club. When I drove up to what looked more like an average sized house then a club, I was hesitant to go in. I found the parking lot and saw there were about 5 cars so I said I'm here so let's TOFTT and try the place out.
You get a warm greeting when you arrive when all the girls come running to the door to greet you. I didn't see anything I liked but I'm too nice a guy to just walk right back out and always too optimistic a person hoping to find a gem. You pay 50 euro and are told that you pay the club and not the girl. Control. There were 15 girls or so but none had the package I was looking for. There was one girl with a case on her hand I would have tried but she was with a Dutch guy the entire time. The only available girl I considered just to say I had a session at Babylon was Paula [url]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-koeln/257.php[/url]. She just seemed like fun dancing on the pole and many times I select the girl who seems to be the most fun in the club.
This was the poorest FKK lineup I have ever seen. I would even put the Penelope lineup ahead of Babylon.
[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1475397]This was the poorest FKK lineup I have ever seen. I would even put the Penelope lineup ahead of Babylon.[/QUOTE]Banana Boi,
I wrote a Babylon report the day before your visit report. Somehow the report I wrote did not get posted onto the forum.
But you found out anyway what the line out at Babylon is like. None or few of the beauties that you seek.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1463608]I visited FKK Babylon last Friday afternoon.
I heard her speak French to someone, so once she was free, I sat next to her and had a nice chat with her in French.
Then I took some rest, visiting the sauna and jacuzzi, reading a book, watching the comings and goings and I had some dinner. To finish my visit of FKK Babylon, I scheduled another 30 minutes with Katja, this time enjoying her considerable skills of fellatio ("Je suis la reine du fellation" she told me and indeed that is not exaggerated: deep, wet and not forgetting your balls, I had to ask her to stop or I would have cum in her mouth) and then I suited up and fucked her in doggy style. She builds up a good rhythm and I played with her tits while my dick went deeply into her sweet and wet pussy. For the third time she made me cum, surprising even myself. Thank you Katja, it was a most nice experience and I profoundly enjoyed this afternoon with you at FKK Babylon.[/QUOTE]Wolvenvacht,
You may find that Babylon has a preponderance of French speakers because of the location of Babylon close to the French border and Babylon is frequented by many French speakers. It also helps a lot that the owner of Babylon is a French speaking Belgian guy who used to be a monger himself.
I am glad that you found women to your tastes at Babylon. There are some good service providers here but I need the optical looks too I am sorry.
For me, Babylon as attested already by Banana Boi may lack the lovelies but then it seems there are others who find what they want at Babylon. Vive le difference.
[QUOTE=Banana Boi; 1475397]The only available girl I considered just to say I had a session at Babylon was Paula.
[url]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-koeln/257.php[/url]
She just seemed like fun dancing on the pole and many times I select the girl who seems to be the most fun in the club.
This was the poorest FKK lineup I have ever seen. I would even put the Penelope lineup ahead of Babylon.[/QUOTE]Jammer, interesting to know which day you was there, because Babylon is known for its good lineup normally.
And even more interesting: Paula looks nice, but is one of the worst regarding service on the room (very egocentric, and not customer focused).
How was PSR and Sixxens?
[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1475397]This was the poorest FKK lineup I have ever seen. I would even put the Penelope lineup ahead of Babylon.[/QUOTE]WTF? I haven't been in Babylon for 9 months. But I cannot believe that such negative changes could happen. I looked into list of "answened" girls on their website. I noted that a couple of well known girls disappear but in general I see the same faces. Babylon team is pretty steady. Maybe you were in bad mood?
Banana Boi
Any info on Six Sense?
[QUOTE=Banana Boi; 1475397]My goal for the day was to visit 3 new clubs, Sixsens, Babylon, and PSR. Arrived at Babylon around 7 pm. I believe the club closes around midnight so 7-8 pm should be prime time for the club. When I drove up to what looked more like an average sized house then a club, I was hesitant to go in. I found the parking lot and saw there were about 5 cars so I said I'm here so let's TOFTT and try the place out.
You get a warm greeting when you arrive when all the girls come running to the door to greet you. I didn't see anything I liked but I'm too nice a guy to just walk right back out and always too optimistic a person hoping to find a gem. You pay 50 euro and are told that you pay the club and not the girl. Control. There were 15 girls or so but none had the package I was looking for. There was one girl with a case on her hand I would have tried but she was with a Dutch guy the entire time. The only available girl I considered just to say I had a session at Babylon was Paula.
[url]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-koeln/257.php[/url]
She just seemed like fun dancing on the pole and many times I select the girl who seems to be the most fun in the club.
This was the poorest FKK lineup I have ever seen. I would even put the Penelope lineup ahead of Babylon.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Simex; 1476257]Banana Boi
Any info on Six Sense?[/QUOTE]I was going to do a write up in the "Netherlands. German border" thread. In short it's definitely a club that is worth visiting. It's a nice place with decent food. I was there on a weekday afternoon and there were about 30 girls. It's hard to tell cause the club is large and on multiple levels. There are a ton of stairs! There were girls from Oase there but I don't know their names. You won't find many teeny's like you do at PHG. Most girls are closer to 30 than 20. What Sixsens has is a little Hungarian spinner named Nora who is worth the visit all on her own.
Sixsens is worth a visit and I will return for sure. Problem is there is no "big" club near it. The closest would be GT, DV, or Samya, all about 80-90 km away.
BB.
Is it 50 + 50.
The place looks really cool - I can see lots of stairs:
http://vimeo.com/52490231
From the site:
RECEPTION
As a guest you are most welcome at Sixsens
At de reception the gentlemen pay 40,- euro entrance fee for a day pass between the times 11:00 and 14:00h.
After 14:00h the entrance fee for a day pass will be 55,- euro.
The ladies pay an entrance fee of 25,- euro for a day pass between the times 11:00 and 14:00h.
After 14:00h the entrance fee for a day pass will be 40,- euro.
Included in the day pass are, a bathrobe, bath slippers, towels and a locker.
You can make use of the restaurant and bar including all kinds of soft drinks, coffee and beer freely.
Of course you also have unlimited use of the wellness & relax area and internet via wifi.
[QUOTE=Banana Boi; 1476275]I was going to do a write up in the "Netherlands. German border" thread. In short it's definitely a club that is worth visiting. It's a nice place with decent food. I was there on a weekday afternoon and there were about 30 girls. It's hard to tell cause the club is large and on multiple levels. There are a ton of stairs! There were girls from Oase there but I don't know their names. You won't find many teeny's like you do at PHG. Most girls are closer to 30 than 20. What Sixsens has is a little Hungarian spinner named Nora who is worth the visit all on her own.
Sixsens is worth a visit and I will return for sure. Problem is there is no "big" club near it. The closest would be GT, DV, or Samya, all about 80-90 km away.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Simex; 1476282]BB.
Is it 50 + 50.
And 60 entry?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.sixsens.eu/index.php/reception-3/?lang=en[/url]
55 entry. There is a happy hour special before 2 pm for 40 euro.
I only did 30 min session here so not sure if 2nd 30 min is 25 or 50.
The locker system is really cool here. You choose any locker you want and swipe your bracelet until it locks.
Don't go here expecting eye candy like when you first walk in to DV. Think more like YY.
Thanks Pal. I quite like YY. There's always enough eye candy for me.
Do they have private Jacuzzi room you can hire?
"It's all about the Timing" Simex.
[QUOTE=Banana Boi; 1476285][url]Http://www.sixsens.eu/index.php/reception-3/?lang=en[/url]
55 entry. There is a happy hour special before 2 pm for 40 euro.
I only did 30 min session here so not sure if 2nd 30 min is 25 or 50.
The locker system is really cool here. You choose any locker you want and swipe your bracelet until it locks.
Don't go here expecting eye candy like when you first walk in to DV. Think more like YY.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Simex; 1476298]Thanks Pal. I quite like YY. There's always enough eye candy for me.
Do they have private Jacuzzi room you can hire?[/QUOTE]Wait, I didn't like YY if you recall. I meant don't expect a lot. LOL.
Don't know about VIP rooms. The room I went to with Nora was on the 4th floor and had a shower.
TA, I saw you're planning on going to Sixsens this week. Just wanted to give you the heads up that the main street through Aachen is closed off for about 2-3 blocks so you will have to go up the hill through some residential housing for 4 or 5 blocks, look for a street that looks big enough to pass the construction, and come back down.
Simex, clear your inbox you're too popular! lol
Saturday. 14 sept. Return in Babylon. The club is small but welcoming. It is true that there are many French speakers and Belgians. The closeness of the border with Belgium is for many there.
The casting of the girls is rather good: some blacks, some Hungarians, and naturally many of Rumanian.
My first choice will be Alice has tall chorus girl brunette of 22 why. Old who has tattoes. Very nice face. A good and entire blow job. Very GFE and very PSE at the same time. I was able to put my fingers in her pussy. Her blowjob is a delight with her tongue as a licking snake. And when she puts the finger in my bottom, I began explode of pleasure. We do it in all the positions including standup, my favourite position, just in front of the big mirror of the room behind gambling machines. I enjoyed in her mouth for a 25-euro supplement and I am sure that she kept some sperm in her mouth. An excellent partner and I shall return for her.
Of return in the big room, I cross the girl Eva who had disappointed a lot last time. To see comment of 08/08/13. She recognizes me and tries to convince me for a new session! This girl is incredible, with now her small misleading face and slim body. More little, more swindle. I answer her politely but firmly that she is not up to it and that I don't want to take some risk to go back up in room with her, seen her too bad service last time. She leaves me dissatisfied silently, impolite and hurt. A girl I know since several years but now out. Bad advertising for the club! Two customers heard us and they confirmed me that certain girls had no good reputation as this Eva, a bad number.
My second choice is called Maya, a nice maid who has good rating on website and forums. Also a maid fucking of good level. We kiss each other on the white sofa during at least ten minutes and she will give me even a blowjob voucher in front of everybody. Really the good beginning. Then the room where I fuck her during one hour (100 euros) with supplement of cum-in-mouth. Session GFE, with long kisses as I like. And this girl is very active and can many dirty things to make with a man. The doggy was fantastic, she moves her ass very strongly. With her, I enjoyed well while taking advantage of a good discussion. It is girls as her that I like. Classic and high level. The club is very clean. It is important. And we drink it some very good beer.
[QUOTE=Dorfman;1477502]My first choice will be Alice has tall chorus girl brunette of 22 why. Old who has tattoes. Very nice face.[/QUOTE]A word of caution. The performance of Alice is highly variable. She can act really sweet, but before you go with her, watch the faces of guys who come out of the room with her. You will see many sad-faced suckers.
Elli is more reliable, though more PSE than GFE. What a pneumatic body!
This is a relatively well-managed club, though I think the Belgian owner is a bit soft on some of the prettier girls who are allowed to get away with a lot of rudeness while putting on phony happy faces.
Update: Babylon has gone seriously downhill since the summer. There were some nice girls then, but they have all been driven away or cowed by some new arrivals, a gang of "Heathers" (you've seen the movie?) The owner is not there enough to keep control, and the female managers are spineless, so the Heathers basically run the club now, and through calculated bullying of the other girls guarantee a poor level of service for the guys who visit. Admittedly there's still lots of customers around on a Saturday: basically the guys wait around, tongues hanging out, hoping to be picked by one of the small number of prettier girls. I think it should be the other way round, but call me old-fashioned.
Whether this club can recover from its current slump remains to be seen. It will take a lot of turnover unfortunately, and I am not going to wait for that.
Planning trip to Hamburg Sunday late evening. Hope to spend 2-3 hours at a ok Fkk club. Is Babylon an alternative or is it better to go direct to Atmos ? Live at a hotel near by Hauptbahnhof.
Monday evening will be Atmos
[QUOTE=Gratass65; 1550803]Planning trip to Hamburg Sunday late evening. Hope to spend 2-3 hours at a ok Fkk club. Is Babylon an alternative or is it better to go direct to Atmos? Live at a hotel near by Hauptbahnhof.
Monday evening will be Atmos[/QUOTE]I think you are posting in the wrong thread. This is FKK Babylon in Elsdorf, outside Koeln, unless I am making some massive mistake.
I think there is no separate thread for the club Babylon in Hamburg area.
It's funny, we often lament different girls in one club who go by the same name: Now there maybe confusion about different clubs bearing the same name.
[QUOTE=Ortos; 1550823]I think you are posting in the wrong thread. This is FKK Babylon in Elsdorf, outside Koeln, unless I am making some massive mistake.
I think there is no separate thread for the club Babylon in Hamburg area.
It's funny, we often lament different girls in one club who go by the same name: Now there maybe confusion about different clubs bearing the same name.[/QUOTE]Ok, thanks for the information
TR Saunaclub Babylon, Elsdorf NRW Germany mid March 2014.
Oststraße 12, 50189 Elsdorf, Germany.
+49 2274 905588.
[url]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com[/url]
Google map link: [url]http://goo.gl/maps/v511i[/url]
Third club of a multiday tour:
Golden Time, Brüggen.
Living Room, Kaarst.
Babylon, Elsdorf.
Mondial, Köln.
Bernds, Hennef (Lichtenberg)
* * *
Sunday afternoon, mid-March 2014.
I had been interested in Babylon after seeing it recommended for high service levels-but with younger girls than the older crew at Bernds. Folks on message boards, including Free Dude here, included it in a shortlist with Neby and Freude, and I had liked those places, so I was hoping for a club in the same mold.
As it turned out Babylon was quite good; the lineup was sufficient for my tastes and the service levels were up there with the aforementioned clubs.
GETTING THERE.
I thought Babylon was in a kind of a strange location out in the western hinterlands of Köln. My GPS took me out to a seemingly rural area suited more for crops than copulation clubs. I suppose that's how many of these places have to be-under the radar enough in their neighbourhood to not elicit trouble from neighbours.
I parked behind the building and walked around to the front. The place looked like it could have been a former storefront, a car parts store or something like that. Buzzed in and met the mamasan at the small entry counter.
From the counter I saw a gaggle of naked girls, about 6 or so, eating fried eggs and bacon. The thekefrau had me pay my entry fee of 50€ and asked for my name, writing "Tommy" down on a white index card kept in a box. I later learned that this would be used to record sessions and extras, and I would pay the tally upon departing. Babylon is notable that you can get a free 10 minute look around before you have to commit to paying your entry fee, but I saw enough to figure I would be fine for the day.
TOUR.
The thekefrau called over to one of the blondes, Diana (pronounced "Dee-Anna") , to give me a tour. Diana walked me upstairs to show me a kino showing porn on a wall-mount flat screen TV, a couple of gambling machines, some fuckrooms and a small house-style bathroom with the shower head removed from the stall. Diana then led me downstairs where there was 2 saunas, access to the backyard, a massage area that I realized was actually numbered as two semipublic fuckrooms, and a small locker area, leaving me to change into Hessen dress-just a towel with nothing else on.
I went back upstairs to the main level and took a look at the food selection-there were a number of sorry-looking hors the'oeuvre in the refrigerated case, and the remnants of eggs and bacon on the other side of the room, where the gaggle of naked girls were sitting earlier around a counter-height dining table. I helped myself to some rolls and the rest of the bacon, and sat at the bar to eat. There was just one other guy there with me at the time, an older German fellow who was friendly and tried to make some small talk in English. Next to the bar is a livingroom-sized lounge with couches against the wall and a big padded platform in the center. By afternoon this area would be fairly full with about 10 girls, but early in the day was empty. I gathered that some girls would be in the room already with guys coming by for a quick noontime session.
The German fellow staked a claim on a great stool at the end of the bar where he could survey the food area, entry counter, and the living room lounge to his right. I sat next to him on the other side of the bar corner, next to the sole black girl, Valerie from Cameroon. Valerie was fun to hang out with during the day, as I came back to my perch many times over the course of the day-she spoke great French-accented English, and would be flirty but unperturbed as she understood she just didn't float my boat.
Eventually a tray of fried eggs came out and I moved over to the dining table, making myself a cup of tea. I checked out girls as they arrived for duty-I hadn't seen them come in clothed, so I presume they sleep at the club. Must be a great commute / pre-work routine-no need to get dressed or fight traffic and parking.
It was a while before I had my first session-I wanted to see what the entire lineup was like before starting to make a to-do list (as in which girls to do). This cute blonde Ewa was kind of nice, looking like a young Jodie Foster, but somehow didn't seem as friendly as I would've hoped. I saw Ewa going to the room at least 8 times during the day, plus having a doubles BBBJ couch start in the main room in front of everyone. There were a few brunettes that would be fine, but I didn't see anyone that really was outstanding.
I ended up chatting with Diana, the girl who gave me the tour earlier. I got a good friendly vibe from her, so I had her get a key from the front counter.
* * *
DIANA.
Half Romanian (don't remember what the other half was). Blond, brown eyes, nice tits, friendly, good attitude.
We ended up in this big bedroom, room 7, with a curtained wall of shelves stuffed with clothes, linens, towels, and other ephemera. Diana later confirmed that many girls stay at the club, including in these rooms after closing.
Our session was on par with the GFE sessions I've had at other clubs-we took our time and I had great visuals in the big mirror to the side of the bed, especially when she was blowing me and I was fingering her pussy. Lots of DFK, eye contact, cuddling and overall sweetness, finishing with a BBBJTCIM. When I asked about coming in her mouth, Diana said,"it'll be an extra twenty euro" then quickly corrected herself-"no, I meant 25 EUR". I knew the club standard price would be 25 EUR so I just joked with her and teased her for a while: "oh, you like me so much you're giving me a discount!" I think I liked Diana's blowjob so much more than the fucking part (and I was tired after so many clubs in a row) that most of our session was spent with my dick in her mouth. After cumming she held me in her mouth so long that I thought she was going to swallow, but eventually she let go of my finally-limp dick and dumped my load into a paper towel.
* * *
After showering I hung out at the bar some more, talking with Valerie and watching the interaction between the girls and other guys. Ewa and brunette Christina kept pretending that they were a couple in front of Valerie, who seemed repelled by the notion of girl-on-girl action. They flirted with each other, kept hugging, openly felt each others tits and bums, etc, just to get a reaction from Valerie. Kind of funny. Valerie didn't have any takers all day except for this Germany ponytail guy, who I saw taking her twice over the course of the afternoon.
Another blond, Tina, had platinum dyed hair and lots of tats but didn't give me the good-session vibe either. Still though, as all the girls were full FKK, it was nice to enjoy the surplus of naked girls parading around the room.
At one point, a trio of skanky Romanian-looking girls came in, and one of the girls showed the other two where the food was, how to help yourself for drinks at the bar (girls or the thekefrau can get drinks for male customers). I took this to mean that they were new to the club and getting a new-hire orientation.
Later this manager guy, who had a real Walter White / Breaking Bad look going on, broke out a bottle of sparkling wine (prosecco or champagne, not sure) and poured a bunch of flutes, passing them out to the girls, and later holding forth with the new girls. I thought that was a nice touch, welcoming them to the family so to speak.
I didn't interact with as many girls as I usually do; I think the club has a light / no approach policy and girls did not come up to you to pitch a session, instead waiting for you to make the first move. One exception was a really skinny blonde, Jana, who comparatively had the hardest sell of the girls there. Romanian, rose tat on her right wrist-felt just wrong for some reason. I don't remember her getting any takers all day.
One girl was amazingly tall-in those hooker heels she just barely fit under the doorframe when walking between the entry and the kitchen. I figured she was about 6'2" barefoot; she had a fantastic body, just scaled up 130. Too bad Real Life doesn't have a Scale tool like Photoshop-I'd have just checked "Keep Aspect / Waist-Hip Ratio" and scaled her down to a nice spinner size and took her for a session.
During the day several guys came and went. I was for a long time the only non-German in the club (based on language and looks). One black guy showed up with his white friend, so I don't think they have an exclusionary admittance policy at Babylon, but I definitely did not see any of the Turkish gangbanger types I would later see at Mondial. Maybe it's also self-selecting-young tuff guys just don't hang out at clubs for the NPR / classical music / Buick and Olds set, and vice versa.
Main meals are ordered off a printed menu kept on the shelf where the bacon and eggs were; I wasn't sure how many you can request but I ended up ordering two meals: a late lunch and an evening meal as well. The menu is in several languages, including German, French, Italian and English. Items included:
Mains:
Pork steak.
Chicken breast tenders.
Toast Hawaii.
Something with Quark: not cut-up Ferengi, but a dairy product made from sour milk.
Sides:
White rice.
Pomme frites.
Boiled potatoes.
Broccoli.
Spinach.
Fried mushrooms.
I had the pork steak and chicken tenders, and both were ok. Not fantastic, but not inedible either. I didn't have the guts to try Toast Hawaii, even after the thekefrau explained it to me-an open-faced sandwich with ham, cheese, and pineapple, that I later learned was quite a fad in Germany for some time in the 1950s.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_Hawaii[/url]
From my perch at the bar, I saw a girl who was quite striking-dark hair in ponytails with unique sparkling eyes. Paula was on my to-do list, but up close I noticed some acne scarring under her makeup, reminiscent of a Penthouse Pet I met in Vegas back in the 90s. As with that experience, the real thing didn't measure up to the first impression. Paula ended up dressing in street clothes at one point, maybe to run an errand in the outside world? But then returned and I saw her later dressed (or rather, undressed, as the girls were all full FKK) for work again.
During my visit there was one guy in his 40s or early 50s, who was continually frowning when he was standing around surveying the scene. I later saw him take Ewa and another girl for some couch action, both girls taking turns blowing him in the main room right in front of all of us, then taking them to the room. Even after that session, which would've but a big smile onto my face for sure, he was still standing around frowning. Come on, already! Many guys who haven't experienced the FKK scene much rave about substandard experiences like Palace or whatever-this guy got a dual blowjob on the couch in front of the whole club then I'm sure fucked the two girls in the room, and he's still frowning! Sheesh. There's always one of these guys in the club-how can you not be grinning ear to ear at a place where 20-40 young naked girls are lounging around, all eager to fuck you?
I had checked out the kino upstairs a couple of times earlier, not seeing any action or anyone worth doing previously, but noticed a petite girl-next-door type lounging around on the right, who I don't think I noticed hanging around downstairs. Lori, from Romania, spoke English well and we talked about a bunch of things, not much of which I can remember, while internet porn clips (FuckedHard18, Pierre Woodman, etc) played on the flat screen TV serving as the kino screen. A guy to our right was tapping away on his ThinkPad laptop, evidently working-I wasn't about to start a session with a webcam right nearby so I excused myself.
I went downstairs to use the sauna, and when I got out of my post-sauna shower I noticed a hot young thing lounging on the chaise lounge next to the sauna. She was reclining back with her feet flat on the lounge, knees up, so her shaved pussy was staring right back at me. I waltzed out of shower and started drying off before I noticed her; after exchanging greetings I started getting a boner and then ducked back into the shower to wrap up in a towel. I was still kind of heated from the sauna, so I decided to hang out on the lounge chair next to her for a while.
It wasn't until I made myself comfortable and started some small talk before I realized she was the super-tall girl from upstairs. Dominika said she was just 18, had worked in a strip club in Hungary, and was super-sweet. I thought about going to the room with her just because of that but somehow my ardor cooled down as I cooled down from my sauna, and eventually I bid her farewell and went back upstairs.
I decided to bypass the main room and go all the way up to the upper floor, and found Lori lying prone on her kino mattress, almost asleep. She looked over at me and smiled,"hey, you're back". Laptop guy had gone, so there was only a tall naked black girl on the other side of the kino room napping. I said, remembering my experience with the FKK Jedi at Mainhattan,"you look like you're relaxing-would you like a massage?" and she nodded and smiled.
I'm no pro at the massage thing, but I do ok, and I gave Lori a good 20 to 30 minutes on her back, arms, thighs, and calves. Lori had mentioned that her sister Alexa also worked at the club, and at one point Alexa poked her head in the kino so Lori could introduce me to her sister. Alexa was taller, slimmer, but you could see the family resemblance in her face. Afterward I wished I asked Lori if she and Alexa ever did sessions together-that would be quite a story to relate later.
Lori was a little tense at first, but then relaxed and at one point almost seemed to fall asleep. At least until I worked my way back up from her ankles, up her calves and hamstrings and started caressing her shaved pussy through her most excellent gap. She half-chuckled, half-purred, and smiled as I massaged her pussy and clit and then started fingering her after she got wet. She looked over, smiled, and said,"should we go to the room?" I said, of course!
* * *
LORI
Romanian, big eyes, girl next door looks, petite. Great service. Sister Alexa is thinner and taller and works same days.
We ended up in one of the two rooms at the far end of the kino, starting standing up just making out and caressing, then she bent down to blow me. We fucked for a long time-I was having a hard time popping, even after switching around to a bunch of different positions. Lori ended up putting her heels back on when we switched to stand-up doggy to get the angle right, but I still couldn't pop until we opted for a BBBJTCIM finish. Great session.
* * *
I didn't stay long after my session with Lori; I ordered my dinner and ate with Diana at the tall dining table, watching the girls smoke away and trying not to inhale too much secondhand smoke. The place had kind of cleared out; I thought maybe some girls had gone home? Certainly the number of patrons had diminished. I think Babylon might be more of a dayclub like Freude-catering to local guys who ca be away during the day with some plausible excuse but have to be home by evening.
When checking out, the thekefrau tallied up my session and extras costs (50+25 for each girl, for a total of 150 EUR) , and called out to Diana and Lori-Diana came over and gave me a nice goodbye hug and kiss. Nice touch.
SUMMARY.
I liked Babylon because of the good service I got from the two sessions. I'd like to try some of the other girls, but the rather remote location is not as convenient as perhaps Haus Panthera for the same kind of experience (service over looks). I was not disappointed by the lineup-not blown away by any stunners, but well within my expectations.
GIRLS I MET / DID:
*DIANA: 1/2 Romanian, nice tits and attitude, good English.
Valerie from Cameroon: short, curvy, spunky attitude.
Christina: looked Latin.
Ewa: blond young Jodie Foster, cute. Did about 8 rooms whilst I was there.
Tina: platinum blonde with tats.
Dominika: 18 year old super-tall Hungarian, former stripper. Sweet girl.
Jana: Romanian skinny skanky girl with a bit of desperation in her pitch.
Svenja: Thick German blonde.
Tall black girl I saw napping in the kino.
Paula: Striking eyes, dark hair in ponytails. Hot like a Penthouse Pet.
*LORI: girl next door from Romania, petite, great service.
Alexa: Lori's slimmer, taller sister.
Tommyseville, great report. I linked it to ROD.
You mentioned a guy with think pad. Is there Wifi at Babylon?
Thanks for the report TSV, Babylon is indeed one of the few service clubs left. Good that NRW stands up, because in Hessen it is getting scarser and scarser.
[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1564370]Tommyseville, great report. I linked it to ROD.
You mentioned a guy with think pad. Is there Wifi at Babylon?[/QUOTE]Very weak signal, it works only in some (akward) locations of the building.
I ask Babylon club in Elsdorf it's FKK or a Saunaclub. The girls are fully naked all the days of the week or only some are in topless?
Are there 18+ debutant like in Samya?
And then the girls in thje club approaching the clients or they are waiting like Acapulco?
[QUOTE=BegaBega;1584276]I ask Babylon club in Elsdorf it's FKK or a Saunaclub. The girls are fully naked all the days of the week or only some are in topless?
Are there 18+ debutant like in Samya?
And then the girls in thje club approaching the clients or they are waiting like Acapulco?[/QUOTE]Babylon is all FKK, all the time (unless there is a theme party). Some of the nudest girls you will find.
Yes, some debutants but more importantly: average service levels is way above the other clubs you seem to be interested in (Samya, Aca, DV).
Girls don't approach much, although I don't think it is forbidden.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1584289]Babylon is all FKK, all the time (unless there is a theme party). Some of the nudest girls you will find.
Yes, some debutants but more importantly: average service levels is way above the other clubs you seem to be interested in (Samya, Aca, DV).
Girls don't approach much, although I don't think it is forbidden.[/QUOTE]Kissing with tongue and ball licking are an extra in this club? And Do the most girls A level?
Do they feed you here? The website has no mention of food included in the daily 30 EUR ticket--just soft drinks, fruits, and snacks.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1584316]Do they feed you here? The website has no mention of food included in the daily 30 EUR ticket--just soft drinks, fruits, and snacks.[/QUOTE]No food, just some snacks.
[QUOTE=BegaBega;1584305]Kissing with tongue and ball licking are an extra in this club? And Do the most girls A level?[/QUOTE]DFK should be normal and included, ball licking also inclusive if the girl provides this. Many girls offer A-level, see website for profiles plus services (+50 euro).
I see that the price of extras is listed on their website and that a reviewer paid 100 euro for a 60 minute session, but a little clarification is needed. Are all girls 100 Euro for 60 minutes, or are some 50+25 Euro NRW standard? Also is COB 50 Euro (this was what I was charged during my one visit here)? And lastly, if you go for the +25 CIM extra, how to you keep the girl from swallowing for an added 25 Euro on top of that, LOL?
It is 100 an hour for all girls in Babylon; they only get 40 for each half hour though, as the club takes 10 E (girls pay no entry fee).
You only pay when you leave, so the girls can't charge you less. The only thing they could do is write down less time, but this doesn't happen often.
[QUOTE=Mambomike;1586651]I see that the price of extras is listed on their website and that a reviewer paid 100 euro for a 60 minute session, but a little clarification is needed. Are all girls 100 Euro for 60 minutes, or are some 50+25 Euro NRW standard? Also is COB 50 Euro (this was what I was charged during my one visit here)? And lastly, if you go for the +25 CIM extra, how to you keep the girl from swallowing for an added 25 Euro on top of that, LOL?[/QUOTE]Actually it is 50 EURO per 30 minutes. For most of us that is enough for one pop.
As to "extras" you have to agree with the girl beforehand. If you agree to pay the 25 EURO for CIM and she swallows then she should not charge you the extra for swallowing.
I was there last year and did not get the impression that they were out to swindle you.
[QUOTE=Mambomike;1586651]I see that the price of extras is listed on their website and that a reviewer paid 100 euro for a 60 minute session, but a little clarification is needed. Are all girls 100 Euro for 60 minutes, or are some 50+25 Euro NRW standard? Also is COB 50 Euro (this was what I was charged during my one visit here)? And lastly, if you go for the +25 CIM extra, how to you keep the girl from swallowing for an added 25 Euro on top of that, LOL?[/QUOTE]It is indeed 50 euro per half hour in Babylon (which most girls in GT and LR also ask, despite the rule of 50+25 overthere.).
Extra's like CIM / CIF are +25 euro. Some sharks ask money for COB, but this is not common. Swallowing officialy is indeed +50, but some sharks just do that to sneaky upgrade a CIM / CIF from +25 to +50. A-level is +50.
So extra's are on the same level as most other NRW clubs (in Hessen area most of these extra's are double and not perse better executed!
I have not been to Babylon before but I am tempted to give it a try during my next visit to Cologne that is coming up. As there does not seem to be any information on taxi availability in this thread, can someone let me know please whether taxis would be readily available from the Bergheim station? Thank you.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1603177]I have not been to Babylon before but I am tempted to give it a try during my next visit to Cologne that is coming up. As there does not seem to be any information on taxi availability in this thread, can someone let me know please whether taxis would be readily available from the Bergheim station? Thank you.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen any taxi's during my last visit. There is a bus (963) from Bergheim to Elsdorf though. You will need to get off at busstop Gut Neuenhof, from there it's just a 2 minutes walk to Babylon. You would need to plan ahead though as it isn't available each hour.
[quote=koosje12;1603432]i haven't seen any taxi's during my last visit. there is a bus (963) from bergheim to elsdorf though. you will need to get off at busstop gut neuenhof, from there it's just a 2 minutes walk to babylon. you would need to plan ahead though as it isn't available each hour.[/quote]i've always wondered how one knows the taxi number to call in each german city. i already know a great taxi company in bad homburg. in other cities, i usually just ask at the hotel for a recommended taxi company. but, what if i'm somewhere and need a taxi number in a bind?
in searching the internet, i found this convenient service: [url]http://www.bahn.com/i/view/gbr/en/services/overview/taxi.shtml[/url].
-begin excerpt-.
your taxi service throughout germany: taxi hotline 22456*.
taxi hotline throughout germany.
even at smaller stations which do not have their own taxi stand you can conveniently get off the train and into a taxi: we have set up a joint hotline together with taxi deutschland e. g. - an alliance of major taxi associations in germany. you can thus call a taxi quickly without any problem in any town in germany with more than 5,000 inhabitants.
can be reached from all german mobile phone networks.
the taxi hotline 22456* which is valid throughout germany can be reached from all german mobile phone networks and costs eur 0. 69 per minute. please tell the automatic speech dialogue system the name of the town. you will then be connected directly with the local taxi company. please note that this service is only offered in german and english.
* eur 0. 69 / min. , can be reached from all german mobile phone networks.
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but i also don't like the idea of paying 0. 69 euro / minute.
is there another recommended way of finding good taxi numbers in random german cities? is there a recommended app for this? just wondering if anyone else has found a really good solution for always having a taxi at the ready?
[QUOTE=Koosje12;1603432]I haven't seen any taxi's during my last visit.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for the quick response. I guess I will spend an additional day instead at Bernd's then.
If you were to use the bus, and 963 connects a number of stations on the Regional Bahn network, the stop mentioned is very close to Babylon, I have used this myself, but the last bus is 2021 back, there may be buses available from Elsdorf bus bahnhof, but that's about 30 minutes walk from Babylon, so maybe you use the bus there and get a taxi back, if you are on a budget, I am sure the club would call one for you.
The 963 schedule is available on the Deutsche Bahn website, bahn. De, you can plan the whole journey bus and train on there, hope that helps.
[URL]http://www.taxi.de/?force=normal[/URL]
Never tried it. There's also an app available. I usually use Google, entering "taxi" and the City I am in to find a local taxi company.
HB.
Was at Babylon once. On a Weekday. Didn't like the club. Didn't like the lineup. Will not repeat. If you are looking for model type girls. Wrong place. Even the service wasn't any better than at GT, LR or Acapulco.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1603764]Was at Babylon once. On a Weekday. Didn't like the club. Didn't like the lineup. Will not repeat. If you are looking for model type girls. Wrong place. Even the service wasn't any better than at GT, LR or Acapulco.
HB.[/QUOTE]You were there once on a weekday a while ago, maybe better not to post about it now. I remeber you writing about good service on your own little forum though. That average service is comparable with LR / GT / Aca is BS though, especially when your comparison is Linda and Daria in LR.
Yes, it was April last year. Yes, I reprorted on A German board, not MY Board. Yes, I had one great and two average sessions. And yes, that ratio is no better than at my visits to LR, GT, Acapulco. An no, that's not BS, that is MY opinion on Babylon. Based on one visit. No more. No less.
HB.
Me too once. Didn't like the club, it's really small. Like bernds but bernds feels more comfy. Didn't like the lineup. No real lookers and much more romanians than I hoped for. Had an awesome (Romanian) session in a huge room up the stairs, though. So the service ratio is high? LOL.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1603538]Is there another recommended way of finding good taxi numbers in random German cities? Is there a recommended app for this? Just wondering if anyone else has found a really good solution for always having a taxi at the ready?[/QUOTE]Other than googling (although I nowadays use DuckDuckGo) for "<cityname> taxi" on your smartphone, step inside any pub and ask the (wo)man behind the bar to call you a taxi.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1605141]Me too once. Didn't like the club, it's really small. Like bernds but bernds feels more comfy. Didn't like the lineup. No real lookers and much more romanians than I hoped for. Had an awesome (Romanian) session in a huge room up the stairs, though. So the service ratio is high? LOL.[/QUOTE]And if the club is big, people will complain they loose oversight and always just missed that hot model since she was on the other side of the huge room.
How big does a club have to be? I think it will depend on how many girls and guests are usually there. As long as I have a seat and do not have to queue for a room or the jacuzzi or the sauna, I'm happy.
Looking at Babylon this Saturday. Services more important than looks for me, but is there enough choice on a Saturday PM?
Thanks,
Sapper
I was about to toss a coin between Residenz and Babylon, but the argument. Why not to view naked girls for the same money as clothed. Decided in favor to Babylon. Then I realized how smart this decision was. Drove about 45 min from DUS and arrived to a farmhouse type building. The Babylon sign proved I am in a right place. Then started parking hassles. The street parking had no avail spots and I became frustrated. I saw the side door open and asked the kitchen lady where to park. She did not speak English and called another lady (happen to be the receptionist) who explained how to park behind the building using side streets with 3 right turns. There is construction site behind the building and current parking lot is covered with gravel. There is no way to find parking for first time visitors.
Paid 50 Euros entry fee, was given locker key with neck strap and 3 towels (one around waist, and 2 for shower). Was assigned a tall slim Czech girl as a guide who showed me around. My first impression was not favorable which changed to the best very soon. The premises looked small and congested (there were 20+ girls and about same amount of guests). All girls were completely naked, with the exception of one blond girl who wore just glasses (I believe for sexier look). I arrived at 3 PM and eat some buffet type food. I liked shrimp salad and chicken wings. BBQ outside started at 5 PM and included pork, chicken and excellent bratwurst. I was impressed with the quality of line-up, comparing even with Samya. While there were only couple stunners, the average quality was the best with very few non-attractive girls. There were 3 black girls, all attractive with nice bodies. I liked several Romanian girls (unlike in Panthera) with Corina, Selena and Elli toping the line. The best English speakers are Svenja (friendly German with a little heavy bottom) and Kesha (sweet Turkish girl, with the best GFE, as I was told by others, but too flat for me). Men clientele was more international (as opposite to other clubs) with 2 guys from Belgium, a guy from Maastricht (Holland) and a guy from Sweden (may be others but these with whom I spoke). There was one German handicapped guy, the only one wearing robe instead of waist towel. He had constant troubles securing service from girls, at one time I overheard a heated argument between him and 2 girls in German. I felt really sorry for him. It was constant close communication between girls and gusts, and also between guests because of small public areas, which I liked. In Panthera guests don't communicate much and stay secluded. Choice of beer was good with 3-4 types including dark beer. In opposite to Panthera, most action happens in the rooms with limited action in open areas and kino room.
I decided to start with Shana cute intelligent black girl from Ruanda. She studies in nursing school in Liege, Belgium and works part-time at Babylon. She speaks French and decent English, very clean. She started with disinfection of my baby, and on my question if she does it to everybody, her answer was "I am a doctor, you know". We started in Jacuzzi downstairs, then moved to kino room. There were one more couple in kino and several onlookers, which created good atmosphere. The service was good but lacks GFE of girls in Panthera. Damage 100 + 25 CIM. Then funny story happened. I did not know that I was supposed to pay at the end. So I went to the locker room, returned with money and gave them to a black girl in the bar. Then, after 5 minutes, same black girl (now I realized it was not Shana but looking similar) and Shana herself came up to me and handed my money back. They both laughed and explained that I am supposed to pay at the end. There are 2 more black girls in Babylon from Mali and Senegal, all looking good and friendly.
I spoke a lot with many girls and guests, but one girl attracted my attention because she covered her bottom with towel while looking pretty attractive and having nice body (Corina). On my question she smiled and said that she is shy. She said that all girls are a little tired after crazy Friday's Mallorca party. Her English is decent (not typical for Romanian girls) and her manners looked classy and elegant. I realized I need to take her and we finished up in the kino room again for 30 min + CIM. The service was good enough with long DFK, but again not as GF like in Panthera. I think that girls in Panthera are trained to provide great GFE because of more aged clientele there which are coming for that. Guys at Babilon were of different age from really young to mature, but few in Panthera's age group. Overall, I liked Babylon better than Samya and Panthera and so far it is my favorite club.
I chose Babylon for my first FKK visit based a few criteria:
-Coming from Amsterdam so only NRW clubs.
-Feedback of some board members who share my preference for good GFE service.
-Wanted my first club to be true all nude FKK.
-I appreciated the club's web site with pictures, schedule, and language information.
I arrived at the club at around 1 pm and parked in the back behind the on-going (and quite loud) construction. Entrance was easy enough and I was treated cordially by the thekefrau. A bunch of girls had congregated around the entrance to greet me, which was a nice touch. Once I paid the entrance fee and received my locker key, a friendly darker skinned girl with black hair that I think called herself Katarina or Katharina showed me around the club. It didn't take long as the club is quite small, but I knew that going in.
After Katharina taught me the correct way to wear a towel without it dropping all the time, she left me to shower up and put my stuff away. I wondered the club a bit more to get my bearings, then grabbed a beer and tried some of the food. The BBQ meat was sitting the grill but was already a bit cold and tough, but the paella was quite good. I attempted to make some small talk with the other men eating but was basically ignored. If language was the issue, I'd at least expect a "kein Englisch" to acknowledge my existence.
Luckily, a friendly Chinese man from Belgium joined me a took a lot of the nerves out of my first FKK visit. We shared similar tastes in women and he confirmed a few of my first choices would be a good fit and were present, but busy ladies (Betty & Claudia). I noticed a pretty young girl with dark auburn hair sitting by herself at the indoor table and introduced myself. It turns out she is Isabelle from Romania and has very basic English, but she still seemed interested in trying so we hung out for a bit. She is quite petite with a decent body (tits aren't quite as full as in her pictures on the site, but still nice) and I really liked her face, she looks every bit a 19 year old as stated on the Babylon site.
We got a room and had an OK session. Kissing was limited and her BJ was basic, but she looked good doing it so I enjoyed myself. DATY was OK (no digits allowed, though), she seemed to enjoy it but not enough to make me thing she'd come, so I moved on. Sex started out a bit slow (I'm thicker than average so I'm used to it), but she limited depth of penetration all the way up until the last few minutes when I think she started to get into it. After sex we still had 5 minutes left but she was already prepping to go so I reminded her we weren't done so hung out and chatted / cuddled for the rest of our session.
After connecting with the Chinese monger, I thought I'd try to chat with some of the new clients that had come in since. Same result. Not even a response, it was like I was invisible. So I went to check out the hot tub, which should be called the lukewarm tub since it felt like sitting in old tub water. I messed with the controls a bit but couldn't get the temperature up so I gave up and tried the sauna, which was OK.
I also checked out the kino, but the TV was off and there wasn't anything going on in there so I went back downstairs to see what was going on. The ladies were pretty much just sitting around with the exception of Marina and Paula, who seemed pretty lively and were dancing and goofing off with the thekefraus. I spotted a gorgeous and petite brunette and went to talk to her, and she introduced herself as Bamby. I'd read mixed reviews about her service, but she was very attractive to me (short with perfect see / the cup breasts, web site pics are bang on) so I thought I'd try her out anyways. But she said she didn't speak English and showed little interest in me so I walked away.
I checked the massage room and found no masseue was working today, which was disappointing as I enjoy a proper massage right after good sex. I stopped by the kino again to find a few girls lazing around and one getting the TV set back up. None of them spoke English, but they pointed me to Lori who invited me over to her couch to chat. She seemed very friendly and I liked her look and nice body. She also encouraged some pre-sales making out which sold me on a room very quickly. I was happy to find the kissing continued in the room, and she had a very nice BJ technique. We ended up in 69 the whole time and I blew in her mouth which she had pre-confirmed was a 25 euro extra she offered, and it was worth it. We had 5 minutes left so she offered a massage, which felt nice but wasn't comparable to a professional. Lori's post-sales were very good, with her always making eye contact the rest of the night and blowing me kisses or even kissing me as she walked by my seat.
More food and sauna time and I was ready to have my third and final session. Rain put a bit of damper on the outdoor area but it did mean all the girls were congregated in the lounge. Still no sign of Betty or Claudia, so I considered Paula or Marina since they seemed like fun have been well reviewed, but they were with other gentlemen already. I had seen two pretty blondes (one with glasses, the other without) earlier in the day coming out of sessions and was hoping for a final session with one of them, but I waited around for a bit and never saw them again.
At this point I was needing to wrap things up soon so I can start the drive back to Amsterdam, so I considered Bamby again since she was still available (not a great sign of service levels already), but she still seemed disinterested in me. A girl named Cleo who is not normally my type (darker skin, greek nose) had been teasing and playful with me all day, so I decided to just go for it and see how things went.
Cleo was a bit too theatrical for my tastes, with lots of winking and porn style moves while she went down on me. I can have problems coming a third time in four hours (often get to senstiive) so I ended up flipping her to doggie style and blew as soon as I felt it was possible. I went down on her in the time remaining and she really seemed to enjoy the combination of g-spot stimulation and her clit, and I think she came (the vaginal contractions were there, plus she said she did). All in all a decent session but nothing overly special.
I wrapped up and settled my tab before leaving. Total cost was 50 euros to enter, plus the 3 x 30 minute sessions at 50 euros each as well as a 25 euro extra for CIM, so 225 euros for sex with three girls. A pretty decent value, but I still find the true GFE escort experience better albeit more expensive. I did find that the facilites themselves were lacking and often not very clean, and the rumbling noise from the construction made enjoyment of the sauna and whirlpool tub difficult. I also didn't like that wifi only worked upstairs an not the other floors.
I also visited Living Room on Monday so I'll write something up on that visit when I have more time.
Visited this place for the first time. Arrived around 3 pm. When I arrived there was about 7-8 girls greeting me at the counter, smiling at me and watching me as I payed my entry and had the rules explained to me. I later found out, that the girls who are not engaged with the customer must get up each time the buzzer rings. Ate, drank a Kolsch and Pils while surveying the lineup.
Only one girl really stood out for me, Czech Illona. I normally find bodies more attractive than faces, but she had both the best body and the best face for my tastes. Her photos don't really do her justice. She's leggy with perky tits that have a natural bounce. When viewing from the back, there is a little bit of flesh on the sides but it doesn't detract from her leggy, slender, feminine shape. Blonde hair, blue eyes. I'd say she's prettier than any girl at GT (or it could be just that she is a lot prettier than the other girls at Babylon). In any case, she doesn't wear the two pounds of foundation on her face, fake tan, and aged face of many GT girls. Although, Ilona smokes she still looks young.
Banana Boi--I remember you once wrote about the hot / cute bartender at Mondial. The Mondial bartender I remember has doughy-eyes, and looks like she could be Macaulay Culkin's sister, LOL. If we are referring to the same bartender than Czech Illona l looks very similar. I'd also recommend Czech Illona to anybody who complains about the clubs being saturated with too many Romanian faces.
Performance wise, she seems to not read the guys well. She's been working at Babylon for seven months, but still seems a little bit unsure of what to do, but is responsive to input. She has a somewhat quirky weird personality. Isn't particulary passionate, but is definitely not a shark. She seems very trainable. About 15 minutes I told her I wanted to do CIM, and she kind of celebrated upon hearing the news. She says she normally works Monday-Friday. Saturday she takes off to party, Sunday she sleeps in. Claims to only know a few words of English.
Showered, ate once more, then left around 8 pm. Upon leaving, the lady at front desk pulled up my card. Paid my 50 EUR for my session with Illona + 25 CIM. Then left. Thekefrau remarked to me in German that she thought Illona was wierd. It may be that Illona is not that social.
I paid my first ever visit to Babylon. Getting there by public transport from Cologne turned out to be a breeze after all. I took the S12 to Konigsdorf followed by bus 963 which delivered me 1 minute walking distance from the club. It took just about an hour in all, and cost only €10.
While Ilona had a stunning body, I did not take her as the face was somewhat plain and I could not converse with her. I thought that the most attractive girl was the very fair-skinned gazelle called Alexa. She was occupied most of the time.
I tried out Monica who is almost a split image of the ex-Oase Amanda, but this one was charming and did not do any upselling.
Babylon is much better furnished and larger than Bernds. However, being bigger, it does not have a cosy feeling, and I did not see any couch action downstairs. I believe they might be doing it on the top floor.
That is, however, the sum total of slim girls I saw, the rest being fleshy; so I did not stay long.
Planning to visit Babylon on Friday afternoon / early evening. If the web site schedule of the girls working that day is correct it looks like there will be plenty who meet the profile of what I'm after. Does anyone know how accurate their site is?
[QUOTE=Jim57;1645696]Planning to visit Babylon on Friday afternoon / early evening. If the web site schedule of the girls working that day is correct it looks like there will be plenty who meet the profile of what I'm after. Does anyone know how accurate their site is?[/QUOTE]Normally the schedule is very accurate, just 1 or 2 do not appear and 1 or 2 appear who are not mentioned. Since it is adjusted several times a day, best is to look at it again on Friday noon, and you have to most accurate view. Friday in general is a good line-up with around 30 girls.
And good news: Kitty is back!
[QUOTE=Maxime;1645818]Normally the schedule is very accurate, just 1 or 2 do not appear and 1 or 2 appear who are not mentioned. Since it is adjusted several times a day, best is to look at it again on Friday noon, and you have to most accurate view. Friday in general is a good line-up with around 30 girls.
And good news: Kitty is back![/QUOTE]Thanks. Kitty doesn't look to be my type but there does seem to be plenty who are!
Got to Babylon about 1.30 on Friday afternoon. Paid my entrance and then got changed and was shown around by one of the girls. I can't remember her name and can't work out who she is from the web site. The club is pretty small but the bar area is quite nice. Got a coffee and sat down to look around the room. I had just come from having a great session in Teenyland so I was in no rush to pick a girl.
By far the most attractive girl to me was Laura. She was hanging around the dining table with a local guy so appeared to be unavailable. I was sitting at the bar and found it very difficult not to keep looking at her. After a while I was talking to the girl that showed me round earlier. I asked her if Laura was booked for the day or if she was available. She checked for me and came back to say that she would be available at some point later on. As I had to leave by a certain time to get to the airport I decided I'd better make another choice.
I'd spotted another girl as she came into the club a short time before. She was sitting on a sofa near the bar so I went over and sat beside her. She spoke pretty good English and told me her name was Larissa. I said that is a nice name but it's probably not your real name. She laughed and then told me her real name and said that the club assigned her that name. She didn't seem very happy with it. That was just her 3rd day at the club. She's not on the web site so I presume they wait until they know girls are going to stay before they include them. She is Romanian and has only been in Germany for a few weeks. She is not new to the business though but she hasn't worked in this type of club before. You could see she was a bit uneasy about walking around naked and held her hands behind her bum as she walked. Her words to me were she was still a bit "timid". We sat chatting for about 30 minutes or so. I told her I wanted to take her to a room but I was in no hurry. She was chain smoking & drinking vodka. She told me she needed the cigarettes and alcohol to get her through the job. I told her I understood that what she does must be very hard sometimes but she needed to look after herself. Have to say that this poses a wee bit of an issue for me. I just hope she was there of her own accord and not forced to be there.
Larissa is a small girl, medium length black hair, slim, lovely A cup tits (she doesn't like them and wants to get silicone. I told her not too) and a beautiful, round, firm bum.
In the room she sat on the bed and gave me a super BBBJ as I stood in front of her. We then progressed onto 69 and then sex in various positions. Kissing was no problem. The view I had of my cock sliding into her gorgeous tight pussy and her tits as she leaned back while on top of me was something else! I told her I'd like to cum on her tits. She said this was no problem but unfortunately I was struggling to finish. Perhaps it was too soon for me after my visit to Teenyland earlier. Unfortunately, like a lot of things, cumming a second time in a few hours gets harder as you get older! To be fair, Larissa did everything she could but it just wasn't going to happen. I spent an hour in the room with her and would most definitely repeat, as long as she keeps those tits natural!
After getting showered I took another walk about and then spent some time in the sauna and jacuzzi before getting something to eat. There was a cold buffet which looked very nice but there was also an option to order hot food. I ordered pork steak & chips which was good.
The lovely Laura was still with the local at the dining table. I think he knew I coveted his catch as he kept sneering at me!
I'd had enough of being close to the unattainable Laura so I took myself upstairs to the Kino. I sat in the corner trying to chill out but soon got distracted by a session starting on the other side of the room! Various other guys came and stood close by for periods to look and neither the girl or the punter seemed to mind so I assume it's taken that if you do this in the Kino it's open season for anyone who wants to view.
After a while I went back down to the bar and had another coffee. It was getting close to the time I had to leave to get to the airport but I wanted to see if Laura was free. Sadly no. Not long after I was down she collected a towel from reception and headed upstairs with Herr Sneer! Lucky bastard! So that was that as time was nearly gone. At this point my frustration made me make a mistake! I approached another girl, Joy, and asked her to go to a room. All rooms were busy so we had to wait for 10 minutes or so. Joy doesn't speak English. I don't think she was too interested in doing what I was after which was a quick 30 minute get me off job and she kept trying to sell me extras and was typing the charge into her phone as we struggled to communicate. It was never going to happen. She did give me quite a good BBBJ in between her sales pitches so I reckon she could be a decent service provider but the lack of language skills from both of us meant there was absolutely no chemistry. Aw well at least it was only 50 euros wasted!
Back downstairs and off course isn't Laura now on the sofa and available! Why the fuck hadn't I waited another 15 minutes or so? I considered grabbing her but a look at the clock told me it was already time I should be away. The consequences of missing my flight home would have been major.
So to sum up. Nice but very small club. Line up not great. Too many quite large girls for my taste. A great session with Larissa (even though I didn't cum) but a hugely frustrating visit due to not getting to have a session with Laura. Just as well I had a good time at Teenyland earlier. Report on that visit over on the Cologne thread.
Was excited and nervous about my first visit here on Saturday just after 12 pm. I can imagine parking to be a nightmare but I found a spot up the side of the building. Paid my E50 entrance but the very friendly tekkenfrau explained the rules of the club In German so I didn't fully understand that you don't pay the girl directly. After each session with the girl you go back to reception and write down time spent any extras taken and then is paid for when you leave. Most of the girls just ask for your number but I prefer to go with her just so there is no misunderstanding at the end. I must say I would much rather just deal with the girl. Took a shower and went to the bar area where around 10 girls were. Most noticeable thing was, all were completely naked. Real FKK. I decided to sit at the small high eating table and helped myself to the buffet. OK food which was cold. The line up was more 5,6, and 7's than 8,9 and 10 and they still smoke inside here so I sat there and thought; I won't be staying here for long. After a while I saw a chef come out the kitchen with a lovely plate of food. I had to find an English speaker to explain whether this was extra. As well as the buffet they had an a la carte menu and the food was actually fantastic. After eating I wanted to relax and I didn't like the downstairs seating and the terrace looked cold and wet and when I was shown around at the beginning I remembered some beds in the kino upstairs. Just one guy laid out sleeping and another getting a blowjob. I laid down to relax and in no time a couple of girls came in and Violetta Bulgarian girl came over to me and in no time was sucking my cock too. Eventually went to a room Half hour E50. The girl giving me the tour did not show the downstairs which seems to be the smartest area of the house. Jacuzzi, rooms and nice relaxing areas. While relaxing on one of the large sofas watching TV Aisha another Bulgarian girl came over to me and in no time she was down on my cock. I felt like telling her to sit on it while I watch the TV but we went to a room, Half hour E50. I had one more session for the day with my favourite a Romanian girl with giant soft titties. Another half hour E50. I left the club at about 8 pm by which time it was getting quite busy. So summing up you need time to get used to this place and a good time can be had. Club looks small but is bigger than you think, girls although eager do not give the level of service as old Pantera, food is very good and staff are friendly and welcoming. Definitely on my list for the future. P. s Does anybody know about a blonde German girl here who I did not get to session with. Claimed not to speak any English. From the waist up she looks like a man, No amount of make up can hide than hard face and from the waist down Wow! What legs and ass.
Sounds like Kesha, reported to be good for your PSE type sessions. I would agree on the looks of most girls (some better looking girls can be booked for long periods as well). At the moment Julia and Melinda are the optical highlights, but I'm not sure they were working this weekend (easter!
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1703927]Sounds like Kesha, reported to be good for your PSE type sessions. I would agree on the looks of most girls (some better looking girls can be booked for long periods as well). At the moment Julia and Melinda are the optical highlights, but I'm not sure they were working this weekend (easter![/QUOTE]Indeed this sounds like Kesha. One of the top performers at Babylon.
Julia and Melinda (both not there currently) look much better, as well as Alice, Nicole, Sascha, Alexa, Lori, Elli, etc.
The basement just (re) opend, the ground floor will be extended (and new) in the coming weeks.
I was wondering about this club, an ISG member had sent me a PM about it a while ago. First of all this club is a lot larger than it was previously. I have been told by other visitors that the downstairs area had more than tripled in the last 3 months, in any case it has a lot more space than Samya.
The bit about paying at the end of your trip and not every girl after the session was strange, but the girls do not report false times and services and cheat, there is nothing to worry about. I had been told by many members that the service level in the club is great, and I have to say I agree. The girls do try very hard to please. I do not finish easily and usually I stop and tell the girl to give up, but each girl I was with tried very hard to finish me off and I have to say they succeeded.
This was despite my enormous levels of red wine drinking. The line up is not as bad in my opinion as stated in some earlier reports, I would say 25% of the girls are 8+ and around half are easily doable, some of them were not great and in comparison Samya has a better lineup.
However I did see 5 girls that were quite good looking and if you are into black girls, then this is the place for you. The food is made to order and free of charge, the entrance is only 50 Euros. I have to say that my experience at this place overall was pleasant and to my looking the girls were fully nude. The only downside is this, this place is about towels and not robes and it was full of hideously ugly overweight men, not a pleasing sight and the ratio of guys to girls was 2 to 1, so get here early if you want to have an easy time getting your girl.
Good ad balanced report Delta Indigo. Indeed is only small part optically 8+ (this used to be better BTW, but ok), but focus is on good service in (or outside!) the room, which most of the Babylon girls deliver (not all, but if they can not cope with public DFK and extensive pre-salesn they are gone after few days and go back to a club where they can earn money by doing nothing.).
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1715762]I was wondering about this club, an ISG member had sent me a PM about it a while ago.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback, I would put this club on the map for my upcoming trip. FKK-day (nude girls) is not every day or is it?
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1716036]Thanks for the feedback, I would put this club on the map for my upcoming trip. FKK-day (nude girls) is not every day or is it?[/QUOTE]FKK every day.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1716036]Thanks for the feedback, I would put this club on the map for my upcoming trip. FKK-day (nude girls) is not every day or is it?[/QUOTE]Bab is a real FKK, not like LR, nor GT, nor Samya, nor Aca, nor PSR.
At Oase or Sharks, many girls are not full naked.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1716036]Thanks for the feedback, I would put this club on the map for my upcoming trip. [/QUOTE]Can't wait for this review.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1716119]Bab is a real FKK.[/QUOTE]Well then I wonder why Babylon is not more popular than GT, LR and Aca.
Who don't like nude girls? I feel something is fishy here, maybe many ugly nude girls? LOL.
Are the girls listed on their website for real?
Well FKK Bernds is also a real FKK, but only 1-2 girls are in my taste.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1716240]Well then I wonder why Babylon is not more popular than GT, LR and Aca.
The place is small, ambience is pretty simple. Line up and food could be at times disappointing. Girls congregate mostly along long narrow elevated table in the bar area or outside. Decent BBQ on weekends. Usually good GFE, popular among punters from across the border. Nice whirlpool in the basement. One of my favorites.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1716240]Well then I wonder why Babylon is not more popular than GT, LR and Aca.
Who don't like nude girls? I feel something is fishy here, maybe many ugly nude girls? LOL.
Are the girls listed on their website for real?
Well FKK Bernds is also a real FKK, but only 1-2 girls are in my taste.[/QUOTE]Bab is a small club with 20/30 girls, casting very average except Alexa and Barbie now new star in GT after working in Finca Erotica, Bab and Samya, girls are friendly and many are said to provide good services, you can get kisses, BBBJ and even sex in the bar lounge, you just have to be attracted by girls look even younger than in Bernds where casting is much too low for me.
I will not write about what some girls are asked by the boss Eddy and what happens after, girls tell after they left Bab and why they left.
At Bab, you don t pay girl at the end of the room, you pay all to theke who is Eddy wife when you leave, rate is 50 for entry, 50 for 30 mn out of extra.
For 50 € spent in room, only 40 is for girls and at least 10 for club when no problem for girls to be paid by club.
I prefer to give all money to the girl and say thank you.
For girls of the day, Bab website is better than Samya website you can t trust for girls there.
The clubs is mostly visited by regulars from France, Holland, Belgium and of course Germany. It can be dead at times and when many girls are booked it can seem like a sausage fest. With some notable exceptions, many girls do not match the looks you'll find in GT / LR / Samya / Sharks.
Why am I writing this: guys like BB and Nilly will probably not find this clubs to their liking. Given their preference for Samya, Aca and GT.
The girls are more relaxed though and service on average is better. Public foreplay (or in the jacuzzi) is very common and the free Belgian beer is very good. It's interesting where the club will go the next months. Now that the remodeling is done, it is more than twice as big and there seem to be more rooms than girls at the moment.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1716378]The clubs is mostly visited by regulars from France, Holland, Belgium and of course Germany. It can be dead at times and when many girls are booked it can seem like a sausage fest. With some notable exceptions, many girls do not match the looks you'll find in GT / LR / Samya / Sharks.
Why am I writing this: guys like BB and Nilly will probably not find this clubs to their liking. Given their preference for Samya, Aca and GT.
The girls are more relaxed though and service on average is better. Public foreplay (or in the jacuzzi) is very common and the free Belgian beer is very good. It's interesting where the club will go the next months. Now that the remodeling is done, it is more than twice as big and there seem to be more rooms than girls at the moment.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the explanation, if the girls don't match the top girls at GT, Samya and Aca then I'll have hard time in Babylon, but I might give it a try anyway. 2 friends of mine went there and said they have a great time, they were there on a party / event night. My friends went crazy and book many girls and the Thekenfrau was surprised how many girl they took when she made up the bill at the end. LOL This could end up to be a lot when you pay when you leave and not directly to the girls, same system like at Bernds.
Nille, you're in Germany so often I think you should give Babylon a try, especially since your friends have recommended it to you. Make a day of it. Sixsens for 40 euro before 2 pm, then head over to Babylon at 7 pm or so. Make sure you eat at Sixsens first though! If you don't like Babylon, you still have lots of time to make it to a DUSS club by 10 pm. Imo we can read everyone's opinion over and over again but until you go you won't know if you like it or not.
I personally didn't find anyone to go with since I'm a pure looks first guy but looking back the girls and the club treat you well.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1716361]For 50 spent in room, only 40 is for girls and at least 10 for club when no problem for girls to be paid by club.[/QUOTE]
This is a fair system if the girls aren`t paying 50 euro for club entry
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1716485]Nille, you're in Germany so often I think you should give Babylon a try, especially since your friends have recommended it to you. Make a day of it. Sixsens for 40 euro before 2 pm, then head over to Babylon at 7 pm or so. Make sure you eat at Sixsens first though! If you don't like Babylon, you still have lots of time to make it to a DUSS club by 10 pm. Imo we can read everyone's opinion over and over again but until you go you won't know if you like it or not.
I personally didn't find anyone to go with since I'm a pure looks first guy but looking back the girls and the club treat you well.[/QUOTE]Thanks I would give Babylon a go, I tend to visit the "NRW Big3" GT / LR combo, Aca and Samya, I need to see my girls and show them the flag I did visited Heaven7th last month just to check it out, it was very slow so I moved on to GT, which was much much better.
I also tried Aca Gold as well I didn't like the place, the girls provided good service, but they are not so beautiful as the "NRW Big3" LU at Aca is much better and the price structure is the same.
The 1 mio. € question is which day to visit Babylon, the weekends I normally reserved for the top clubs with the top girls, the LU at Babylon on weekdays might be thin?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1716485]Nille, you're in Germany so often I think you should give Babylon a try, especially since your friends have recommended it to you. Make a day of it. Sixsens for 40 euro before 2 pm, then head over to Babylon at 7 pm or so. Make sure you eat at Sixsens first though! If you don't like Babylon, you still have lots of time to make it to a DUSS club by 10 pm. Imo we can read everyone's opinion over and over again but until you go you won't know if you like it or not.
I personally didn't find anyone to go with since I'm a pure looks first guy but looking back the girls and the club treat you well.
This is a fair system if the girls aren`t paying 50 euro for club entry.[/QUOTE]So fair for a girl like Barbie who left even she was a superstar there, but when she worked in room for 8 hours, 160 € were for the club, out of penalties or other problems to be paid.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1716497]So fair for a girl like Barbie who left even she was a superstar there, but when she worked in room for 8 hours, 160 were for the club, out of penalties or other problems to be paid.[/QUOTE]Good point, Siri. I was assuming most girls at Babylon don't do more than 5 zimmer per day so it would work for them. For a girl like Barbie it was her choice to stay there. It's likely one of the reasons Babylon lost her to GT and, in turn, lost her regulars too.
Nille, H7 and Babylon quality are about the same. I like H7 for some unknown reason. There are gems hidden underneath the grannies and walruses. I need to revisit.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1716528]Good point, Siri. I was assuming most girls at Babylon don't do more than 5 zimmer per day so it would work for them. For a girl like Barbie it was her choice to stay there. It's likely one of the reasons Babylon lost her to GT and, in turn, lost her regulars too.[/QUOTE]Barbie lost me because providing lower services at GT than at Bab, but she has new regulars and is busy at GT.
Do you think girls like Alexa or Kesha have only 5 30 mn rooms / day at Bab? Alexa is quite busy, I think more than 6 hours in room, so also more than 120 € for the club, expensive girl entry.
And I can't write what some girls are asked to provide for services by boss for some Belgium from Liège "clients" .
But with their look, most of girls could not work much in other clubs except Bernds or Aca Gold ex HP.
Sorry but you can't compare H7 and Babylon. H7 : the place is a wreck. The best looking living things in H7 are the TF, the security guy and the dog.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1716560]Sorry but you can't compare H7 and Babylon. H7 : the place is a wreck. The best looking living things in H7 are the TF, the security guy and the dog.[/QUOTE]I was trying to be nice to Babylon but tbh the girls at Babylon IMHO were not pretty at all. In all the clubs I ever went to including Penelope, Babylon ranks at the very bottom of my optifick scale. When I went some of the girls knew me like Paula ex-H7 and some of the bar stool warmers from Samya. At least at H7 I found a great girl and one more cute one who left before I could get to her. Agree that low end H7 girls are way worst than Babylon. Babylon had the best looking at both clubs but she was the skinny waif bartender.
I was in Babylon and in H7 the same day (Friday) 10 days ago. In Babylon most of the girls were not overweight, some of them were really attractive. In H7 I found only Sabrina (ex HP) and her service was average. Maybe two other girls doable for me. It was a Friday night at 9 PM!
Excellent if Babylon's lineup has picked up significantly since I was there long ago. I'd be very happy with a club to go to on the way home from Sixsens. At least we all seem to agree H7 only has 2 girls we like. LOL.
Go Nille Go!
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1716568]I was in Babylon and in H7 the same day (Friday) 10 days ago. In Babylon most of the girls were not overweight, some of them were really attractive. In H7 I found only Sabrina (ex HP) and her service was average. Maybe two other girls doable for me. It was a Friday night at 9 PM![/QUOTE]Except Alexa, who are your attractive look girls at Bab? I mean pretty face and slim.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1716572]Excellent if Babylon's lineup has picked up significantly since I was there long ago. I'd be very happy with a club to go to on the way home from Sixsens. At least we all seem to agree H7 only has 2 girls we like. LOL.
Go Nille Go![/QUOTE]Haha BB,
You are trying to sell me bad fruits, do you have shares in Babylon.
I've seen the girls at H7 and Aca Gold if the LU at Babylon is a pair or worst, then I'll past Babylon this time, then I might try YY or Sixtsens, my goal is to try a new Club beside my must-visit-Clubs. Perhaps also DV which I haven't visit for more than 1 year.
Opticks of most girls in Samya, Aca and GT are better on average than in Babylon. Looks of the Babylon girls however are on average much better then in some other service clubs, like Bernds, Panthera and Goch. And indeed, better than in H7. The online schedule of Babylon is quite accurate (updated several times a day, so look in the morning, when you are about to go).
Nice bodies have Alice, Alexa, Nicole, Melinda, Roxy, Lori, Sascha, Marina, Laura, etc (these could all work in LR or GT). Overall the reason to visit this club is the (on average) high service of the girls, including DFK and OWO on the couch if wanted.
One year ago the food was terrible, now they have a la carte menu, and it is not bad at all, especially with the accompanying beer(s).
Since there are only 20-30 girls, it can be difficult at some moments to find the right girl that you want, but at some moments, the whole lounge is filled with girls, and only few men, so it differs during the day.
Most days are ok, look at the schedule online, but Tuesday until Saturday are normally the best. Avoid parties, when there are too many men!
Enjoy and report!
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1716607]Haha BB,
You are trying to sell me bad fruits, do you have shares in Babylon.
I've seen the girls at H7 and Aca Gold if the LU at Babylon is a pair or worst, then I'll past Babylon this time, then I might try YY or Sixtsens, my goal is to try a new Club beside my must-visit-Clubs. Perhaps also DV which I haven't visit for more than 1 year.[/QUOTE]Recap of my report of H7 from a visit awhile back.
I walked in.
After peaking inside the lounge, quickly got dressed got the hell out in like 5min time. My shortest club visit.
Based on what I saw, BB is one lucky son of beach. I was way to hopeful after I heard PHG girls started off there and come from there at the time. But, at the time the two clubs weren't linked at all.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1716711]I walked in. After peaking inside the lounge, quickly got dressed got the hell out in like 5min time. My shortest club visit. Based on what I saw, BB is one lucky son of beach. .[/QUOTE]Not lucky. Just more patient than you are. LOL.
Trust me my first 45 minutes at H7 were like WTF am I doing here? As I was thinking of which club to hit next I ended up chatting with a cool Dutch guy about poker. Right when he left my girl came out of a session.
[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1716607] then I might try YY or Sixtsens, my goal is to try a new Club [/QUOTE]
Cmon Nille! Where's your sense of adventure?
Given the girls we have in common, overall YY is more your style. Keep in mind YY is dead during the day and Sixsens is fairly busy.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1716717]Cmon Nille! Where's your sense of adventure?
Given the girls we have in common, overall YY is more your style. Keep in mind YY is dead during the day and Sixsens is fairly busy.[/QUOTE]I've done my share of adventures, I've been visiting girls in strangest places in Russia and in dangerous neighborhood of Manila.
I was quite adventures in my early FKK-carrier, but now I know that I want and I don't want to waste my time in boring clubs when I can be with my favourites at my regular clubs.
I'm sure I would enjoy the style and wellness of YY, but doubt the LU is eye candy and dick ready, Let's see where my dick and mood take me LOL.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1716900]I've done my share of adventures, I've been visiting girls in strangest places in Russia and in dangerous neighborhood of Manila.
I was quite adventures in my early FKK-carrier, but now I know that I want and I don't want to waste my time in boring clubs when I can be with my favourites at my regular clubs.
I'm sure I would enjoy the style and wellness of YY, but doubt the LU is eye candy and dick ready, Let's see where my dick and mood take me LOL.[/QUOTE]In YY, read about Lara and Louana. Ro if she returned.
In GT, Barbie. Ro ex finca erotika, ex Bab, ex Samya.
Valentina should be at home.
[QUOTE=Maxime;1716614]Opticks of most girls in Samya, Aca and GT are better on average than in Babylon. Looks of the Babylon girls however are on average much better then in some other service clubs, like Bernds, Panthera and Goch. And indeed, better than in H7. The online schedule of Babylon is quite accurate (updated several times a day, so look in the morning, when you are about to go).
Nice bodies have Alice, Alexa, Nicole, Melinda, Roxy, Lori, Sascha, Marina, Laura, etc (these could all work in LR or GT). Overall the reason to visit this club is the (on average) high service of the girls, including DFK and OWO on the couch if wanted.
One year ago the food was terrible, now they have a la carte menu, and it is not bad at all, especially with the accompanying beer(s).
Since there are only 20-30 girls, it can be difficult at some moments to find the right girl that you want, but at some moments, the whole lounge is filled with girls, and only few men, so it differs during the day.
Most days are ok, look at the schedule online, but Tuesday until Saturday are normally the best. Avoid parties, when there are too many men!
Enjoy and report![/QUOTE]Did they recently change price for CIM from 25 to 50?
[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1717039]Did they recently change price for CIM from 25 to 50?[/QUOTE]CIM is still +25, some girls use the habit to add another 25 for CIF, but normally a CIF / CIM combi should be +25 also.
A-level is +50.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1716361]At Bab, you don t pay girl at the end of the room, you pay all to theke who is Eddy wife when you leave, rate is 50 for entry, 50 for 30 mn out of extra.
For 50 spent in room, only 40 is for girls and at least 10 for club when no problem for girls to be paid by club.[/QUOTE]This is out of date. The current system is that you pay direct to the girls. Also, girls now pay an entry fee of 85 euros, but they no longer need to contribute the 20% to the club.
Terrible ratio of about 2 men to each girl today. And as Alexa has gone on vacation, there were absolutely no slim AND pretty ones. As the slim ones were not pretty enough, I had to make do with pretty girls who were a little fleshy.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1720716]This is out of date. The current system is that you pay direct to the girls. Also, girls now pay an entry fee of 85 euros, but they no longer need to contribute the 20% to the club.
Terrible ratio of about 2 men to each girl today. And as Alexa has gone on vacation, there were absolutely no slim AND pretty ones. As the slim ones were not pretty enough, I had to make do with pretty girls who were a little fleshy.[/QUOTE]You didn't think Melinda (blonde, small, Hungarian) was pretty?
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1720716]This is out of date. The current system is that you pay direct to the girls. Also, girls now pay an entry fee of 85 euros, but they no longer need to contribute the 20% to the club.
Terrible ratio of about 2 men to each girl today. And as Alexa has gone on vacation, there were absolutely no slim AND pretty ones. As the slim ones were not pretty enough, I had to make do with pretty girls who were a little fleshy.[/QUOTE]When did you visit Babylon and observe the change, because I was there during the first weekend of May and at that time you still paid at the very end before you left?
Payment system changed this Monday (11-5).
Was it pure coincidence Siri was discussing the Babylon price structure last week and now they changed it? Guessing they don't want to lose more top / busy girls.
Isn't 85€ still high? Nearby Sixsens charges 40€ if girls start before 2 pm. 65 if after 2 pm.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1720803]Isn't 85 still high? Nearby Sixsens charges 40 if girls start before 2 pm. 65 if after 2 pm.[/QUOTE]I believe part of it is for withholding tax.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1720726]You didn't think Melinda (blonde, small, Hungarian) was pretty?[/QUOTE]She is cute, and must be appealing to many men as she was quite busy. But I am personally not too attracted to someone looking like a schoolgirl, unless I remembered wrongly which one was Melinda.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1720781]When did you visit Babylon and observe the change, because I was there during the first weekend of May and at that time you still paid at the very end before you left?[/QUOTE]Bab boss used to read forums, fair for girls who work busy who lost more than 100 € before.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1720882]She is cute, and must be appealing to many men as she was quite busy. But I am personally not too attracted to someone looking like a schoolgirl, unless I remembered wrongly which one was Melinda.[/QUOTE]That sounds like her.
It isn't a "coincidence" it happened now. Anyone who has been following Babylon knows this has been coming for a while, originally it was even planned for the end of March.
I'm starting to get it now. Why some clubs have a system the girls pay at the end. It's for management to take their percentage. Is that only tax or is there more the management takes besides entry (and maybe boarding)? Why is this done at some clubs, and not others? If the management is getting their share beyond the tax, and the usual, isn't that akin to pimps getting their share? At ACA, there is a sign in sheet when girls picks up their key. Mondial has something of that sort. Same for Magnum. Dunno how LR works, and GT doesn't seem like they keep in track. Select clubs keeps in track of all this. Different tax laws in that region?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1721251]I'm starting to get it now. Why some clubs have a system the girls pay at the end. It's for management to take their percentage. Is that only tax or is there more the management takes besides entry (and maybe boarding)? Why is this done at some clubs, and not others? If the management is getting their share beyond the tax, and the usual, isn't that akin to pimps getting their share? At ACA, there is a sign in sheet when girls picks up the sheet. Mondial has something of that sort. Same for Magnum. Dunno how LR works, and GT doesn't seem like they keep in track. Select clubs keeps in track of all this. Different tax laws in that region?[/QUOTE]The girls pay a flatrate tax per day. At Bernds you pay when you leave.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1721251]I'm starting to get it now. Why some clubs have a system the girls pay at the end. It's for management to take their percentage. Is that only tax or is there more the management takes besides entry (and maybe boarding)? Why is this done at some clubs, and not others? If the management is getting their share beyond the tax, and the usual, isn't that akin to pimps getting their share? At ACA, there is a sign in sheet when girls picks up their key. Mondial has something of that sort. Same for Magnum. Dunno how LR works, and GT doesn't seem like they keep in track. Select clubs keeps in track of all this. Different tax laws in that region?[/QUOTE]This system is better than in other clubs. Marina from former HP told me that they collected the same flat tax amount from all girls disregarding of how busy they were. Now in AG they consider number of room bookings as well but they do not consider time spent in the room and extras. In US companies do not collect taxes from independent contractors (official status of club girls). Independent contractors pay taxes themselves. Companies collect taxes only from their employees.
[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1721325]This system is better than in other clubs. Marina from former HP told me that they collected the same flat tax amount from all girls disregarding of how busy they were. Now in AG they consider number of room bookings as well but they do not consider time spent in the room and extras. In US companies do not collect taxes from independent contractors (official status of club girls). Independent contractors pay taxes themselves. Companies collect taxes only from their employees.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it does make sense to take it proportionally. This would require guests to pay the front desk after, and it could cause some problems like some idiots do everything or a girl sharks some newbie as much as possible, and debt get racked up high, and lots of punters not being able to afford to pay. Especially in the mainstream clubs where prices are much higher, and grounds for more sharkier girls. This makes sense why in some clubs, a superstar has potential to make alot with only flat tax fees.
If a girl is barely making it, why suck her measly earnings with a flat tax? Low earners will suffer from flat rate. Also, the very high earners that pay flat tax, the tax is not much to them whereas the flat tax would be too much for girls barely making money. Do Germans nationals pay income tax on their earning on top of the flat prostitution tax? It is a cash business so how can that be honestly accounted for unless the club is accounting for it(this is why some clubs account for it?).
I think ACA does sign girls in for rooms, but don't know if they track the time. If the time is not tracked, it would be advantagous for girls to do longer rooms. But then again, ACA does limit room time on busy days. Hmmm. More rooms, more taxes? I know Magnum writes the times. Of course extras, and if girls charge 100 for 75 or 80 official pricing are making more than accounted for.
The old system in Babylon meant that 10 euro of each 30 minutes in the room were taken by the house (all extras went to the girl for the full amount). However, girl didn't have to pay any entree fee (and tax only kicked in when they had their first room). This means that on quiet days girl had free food and lodging.
In the new system they need two rooms to recoup the entree fee, which might mean some girls will skip quieter days. The club also provided many free entry tickets to clients (through their owen forum and others), which in the end paid for itself when these guys spent time in the room. I expect that to become less prevalent as well. It really was a fairly nice set up: men and girls having relatively cheap entree and the club getting paid when sessions happened.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1721455]The old system in Babylon meant that 10 euro of each 30 minutes in the room were taken by the house (all extras went to the girl for the full amount). However, girl didn't have to pay any entree fee (and tax only kicked in when they had their first room). This means that on quiet days girl had free food and lodging.
In the new system they need two rooms to recoup the entree fee, which might mean some girls will skip quieter days. The club also provided many free entry tickets to clients (through their owen forum and others), which in the end paid for itself when these guys spent time in the room. I expect that to become less prevalent as well. It really was a fairly nice set up: men and girls having relatively cheap entree and the club getting paid when sessions happened.[/QUOTE]If girls entry is now 85 , they have to work 1 h, but when they work 5 h or more, they pay less than 100 or more before, for stars like Kitty, Alexa or Barbie who left.
I know Eddy staff read forums so more clever would be 70 from Sunday to Thursday and 100 on Friday and Saturday, World have 2 girls entry rates.
About numerous free entries or even girls gratis for some "clients from other forum" , no comment except girls should refuse without condom.
Clubs should understand their girls make clients visit or not, Barbie left, no more visit at Bab, World is my favorite club to visit every week but when changing girl behavior, why visiting again?
[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1721325]Now in AG they consider number of room bookings as well but they do not consider time spent in the room and extras. [/QUOTE]I've never been to AG, but how do they manage the kino sessions then? Do they use the CCTV footage to check if a girl had a session in the kino?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1721836]If girls entry is now 85 , they have to work 1 h, but when they work 5 h or more, they pay less than 100 or more before, for stars like Kitty, Alexa or Barbie who left.
I know Eddy staff read forums so more clever would be 70 from Sunday to Thursday and 100 on Friday and Saturday, World have 2 girls entry rates.
About numerous free entries or even girls gratis for some "clients from other forum" , no comment except girls should refuse without condom.
Clubs should understand their girls make clients visit or not, Barbie left, no more visit at Bab, World is my favorite club to visit every week but when changing girl behavior, why visiting again?[/QUOTE]Are you again trying to show you really don't understand English that well?
Free entry for girls used to be the case for all girls. Not anymore.
Free entry vouchers for men were (maybe still will be) handed out often through numerous forums, including babylons own forum.
What that has to do with BB sex? Absolutely nothing.
What this has to do with visiting World? Absolutely nothing.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1723290]Are you again trying to show you really don't understand English that well?
Free entry for girls used to be the case for all girls. Not anymore.
Free entry vouchers for men were (maybe still will be) handed out often through numerous forums, including babylons own forum.
What that has to do with BB sex? Absolutely nothing.
What this has to do with visiting World? Absolutely nothing.[/QUOTE]I know entry was free for girls before but club took 20% of girls gains, very expensive, more than 100 € for busy girls, so some decided to leave.
For men free entry or else, I think you don t know what happens in Bab, but when no attractive girls in Bab or even in World, why visiting there?
[QUOTE=Spermophilus;1723081]I've never been to AG, but how do they manage the kino sessions then? Do they use the CCTV footage to check if a girl had a session in the kino?[/QUOTE]There is no way to ditch Big Brother, especially in AG, lol.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1716572]Excellent if Babylon's lineup has picked up significantly since I was there long ago. I'd be very happy with a club to go to on the way home from Sixsens. [/QUOTE]Problem is I don't think Babylon is a night time club. Only been there twice. Once on a Friday evening. Once on a Monday. Half the customers are customers that I would assume attend weekly. The line-up isn't that big so you may only find one girl that meets your optic requirements. And chances are she'd be occupied with one of her regular clients.
I've seen the Hungarian Kitty that Sirioja talks about. A regular pointed her out to me because we saw her eat briefly between doing a 4 hour room and 3 hour room. Also, as Sirioja notes Barbie Hungarian / Romanian, who is currently one of the top stars at GT also previously worked at Babylon.
Bab close at midnight or 1 am, there is a girl to know at Bab named Alexa. Ro, very slim with small tits white skin chestnuts hair, queen for sweet BBBJ, spent more than 30 mn in her mouth, dreaming, but don't accept to wait for her and too busy, star at Bab.
After spending my first day in Germany yesterday at Bernds, I decided to leave a little early and lob into a hotel over by Babylon last night so I could hit the place first thing today. Note: I have always been a big fan of the throwback nature of Bernds, but the place, after many years, has kind of run its course for me. Nothing really bad to say, just that it's time to move on.
Back to Babylon. So I drive over and figure I'll go in and ask where might be the best place to stay that's close by, and the response was "The Parkhotel, located about 4 clicks down the street right near the center of Bergheim". Stayed there last night and tonight. Nice place. Paid E90 per night.
Really like everything about Babylon, especially now that I hear it was just remodeled. Must have been pretty small beforehand. Also hear they're going to add a pool out back for next summer, which would be pretty nice as well.
Re: the appearance of the talent, I thought it was good enough to justify going back again tomorrow vs. Heading over to the LR. And the service I received was just as good as any I've received.
So all in all, a very nice place where I was actually surprised I liked it as much as I did.
I'll leave on a short story. I was sitting eating dinner with a local German and Chinese guy who lived in Hong Kong and had never visited an FKK before. He explained how he had to do the planes, trains & automobiles to just get from Aachen to Babylon. The last stop on his journey was a local bus that was to take him in close proximity to the club. Not knowing where he was going in a fully loaded city bus certainly posed a challenge from a discretion standpoint, so when the bus driver asked him in German where he was going, he smartly refrained for saying FKK Babylon, and he wrote the address down on a sheet of paper for the driver to simply read. But when the driver never heard of the club, he turned around to a bus load of people and asked them where Oststrasse 12 was? After a few giggles from some guys on the bus, one of them says, "That's the address for FKK Babylon". And pretty much the whole bus started laughing. Poor guy, he must have been mortified on the bus ride, but he seemed no worse for wear running around wearing a hot Romanian as a tuope!
Hey,
I was at FKK Babylon yesterday and I the like to share my experience with you. I had only 5 hours in hamburg so I wanted to go to a place relatively.
Close to the train station. I don't have much money so taxi was not really an option for me. Babylon is convenient because you can get bus 112 from the train.
Station and it takes you right in front of Babylon for about 2 euros and it takes about 20 min.
It was my first time in a FKK and I didn't know what to expect. Got in and I found an Asiatic women at the counter. Paid 65 euros entrance and she.
Directed me to the changing room. She was not very friendly but not rude either, that s OK. Got changed, had a shower and then head out to the main room.
There were some girls giggling but I went straight to get a bit of food. The food was really crap but never mind who cares about food? I was surprised that.
Nobody showed me around although I said at the entrance that it was my first time in this place. So I asked to a girl to show me a bit around. There were about.
10 girls and only 2 men (including me). Fantastic, but maybe it was to be expected for a Wednesday at 2 pm. After a while I start talking to a slim girl with.
Fishnet and long brown hair. She is called Emilia and is from Albania. We have a good chemistry and she seems very nice so I take her to the room. Standard package, blow.
+ sex for 60 euros. She is very good at blowing and deep throat and offers to do 69 but I refuse.
We go on to sex and it feels so right, she gives me small kisses around the body, I do the same. The chemistry is there and it feels so good. I come quite fast.
And it feels so go. I pay her and then I go near the swimming pool, lay down on a sun bed and enjoy. I was very tired with the travel to hamburg so it was.
The perfect time to get a small nap. Emilia was fantastic and left me such a good feeling, highly recommended girl. After I relaxed I go to the bar and ask for the.
Time, it was already late and I had to leave the place in 45 min or so. I decided to go for an extra session before leaving. I look around and then BAHM I see.
This absolutely gorgeous blond girl. Big natural boobs, curvy, round ass, beautiful round face. I asked her name, she told me a french name starting with S, I.
Don't remember exactly unfortunately. She was actual German, living in Bremen. She told me that she drives to hamburg every time she gets a "shift". She was.
Not particularly smiling but she was so attractive that I had to take her to the room. We start with blowjob and it is going well but then she starts using more.
And more the teeth. I start loosing "hardness" so I ask her to stop and get on top of me. She doesn't listen and continue with the unpleasant blowjob. After several.
Times that I tell her (politely) to get on top of me she does it but at that point I was not really in the mood anymore, the blowjob was not nice and she.
Wanted to prolong it too much. Then when I was going to penetrate her she was moving her body slightly so that it was difficult to get inside her. I was surprised.
I was never in a situation like this before. But then it all became clear, she goes: the 30 min are almost expired you need to pay 60 euros extras for half an hour.
More. Bullshit, we spent in the room 20 min max and she did all she could for not making me come in time. I was so disappointed and had a bad feeling that I didn't.
Want to continue. I paid her bloody 60 euros, had a shower and left with some bitterness in my mouth. Such a pity. Such a bad finale.
Overall conclusion: an OK experience even though I ended up spending nearly 200 euros for only 1 session of sex. Too much. Emilia was amazing, I highly recommend.
Her to anybody going to Babylon. The blonde German girl from Bremen was so bad, gorgeous but bad. She ruined everything. The place is really nice actually and everything.
Looks clean. Food is bad but who cares. Girls were good looking to gorgeous. But they were not fully naked.
One thing I miss a lot is a sort of "review system" for the girls. I would love to give credit to Emilia and to discourage customers to go with the girl from.
Bremen. Why is missing this sort of review system? For any business quality control must be the first priority. There are not even pictures of the girls.
On the website so it is difficult to understand who is who.
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[QUOTE=Pendrell;1727092]Hey,
I was at FKK Babylon yesterday and I the like to share my experience with you. I had only 5 hours in hamburg so I wanted to go to a place relatively.[/QUOTE]This thread is about FKK Babylon in Elsdorf close to Koln, not FKK Babylon in Hamburg.
I went to Babylon again since I was in the Cologne area. Many girls were on holiday. I stand by my earlier statement, the lineup in Samya is better but it is okay here. The service level was quite good, but I heard it was much better one year ago. The problem again is that there were a few girls and many many guys. Something like 5 guys for one girl.
I like to be rimmed and Ilona did that free of charge. She was okay but not a stunner.
An okay club, very good service levels but the guy. Girl ratio is really messed up.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1749568]I went to Babylon again since I was in the Cologne area. Many girls were on holiday. I stand by my earlier statement, the lineup in Samya is better but it is okay here. The service level was quite good, but I heard it was much better one year ago. The problem again is that there were a few girls and many many guys. Something like 5 guys for one girl.
I like to be rimmed and Ilona did that free of charge. She was okay but not a stunner.
An okay club, very good service levels but the guy. Girl ratio is really messed up.[/QUOTE]On what day of the week did you visit Babylon?
[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1749665]On what day of the week did you visit Babylon?[/QUOTE]Thursday the 16th and Saturday the 18th, it was the same both days.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1749758]Thursday the 16th and Saturday the 18th, it was the same both days.[/QUOTE]I've heard they recently added extra space and rooms. Did you notice changes since last year? How long did you wait for available girls or rooms?
[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1749854]I've heard they recently added extra space and rooms. Did you notice changes since last year? How long did you wait for available girls or rooms?[/QUOTE]The place is around 3 xs bigger I was told by regulars. I did not wait long, just not much choice.
60 Euros for half. Really? That's in par with Artemis although entry is not as high. So, every half is 60? Even with 65 entry, not competitive pricing with other options around. When it's 5 guys per girl, how big is the LU? How are the optics and age level of the girls compared to say ACA or Samya?
I was contemplating a visit just for kicks, but the entry's not attractive to see how it's like.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1749861]60 Euros for half. Really? That's in par with Artemis although entry is not as high. So, every half is 60? [/QUOTE]Yes, and make sure that you bring 10 euro notes. I did not have any. The receptionist said that they had none and that the girls have now been told to have change available for customers. (In Artemis, the receptionist usually had loads of 10 euros.) And as I expected, after my first session, the girl tried hard to extract a tip from me before returning my 40 euro change.
The facilities and rooms are great now!
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1749868]Yes, and make sure that you bring 10 euro notes. I did not have any. The receptionist said that they had none and that the girls have now been told to have change available for customers. (In Artemis, the receptionist usually had loads of 10 euros.) And as I expected, after my first session, the girl tried hard to extract a tip from me before returning my 40 euro change.
The facilities and rooms are great now![/QUOTE]I think Babylon Elsdorf and Babylon Hamburg are being confused in this thread. Elsdorf is just 50 for 30 minutes and has expanded recently. I know very little of the Hamburg one.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1749926]I think Babylon Elsdorf and Babylon Hamburg are being confused in this thread. Elsdorf is just 50 for 30 minutes and has expanded recently. I know very little of the Hamburg one.[/QUOTE]This thread was for real FKK Babylon close to Koln with Alexa, queen of BBBJ in FKK, 50 for 30 minutes.
Also club Babylon in Hamburg, huge with many rooms, but not so many girls, 60 for 30 minutes, I preferred club Atmos in Hamburg, 50 for 30 minutes, in Hamburg BBBJ and DFK are for extra, never been to Harmony south of Hamburg.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1749926]I think Babylon Elsdorf and Babylon Hamburg are being confused in this thread. Elsdorf is just 50 for 30 minutes and has expanded recently. I know very little of the Hamburg one.[/QUOTE]This is not uncommon behaviour. In Aca where the price is 40, some girls play the non change behavior when given 50 or kiss you and say thanks without returning the change, I start with do you have 10 right after the session, to make clear that I will not tip them.
I know of only 2 60 Euro clubs in Germany, Artemis in Berlin and Palast in Freiburg, all other clubs are 40 - 50, with only Acapulco being a 40 Euro club that I know of. Are 60 Euro clubs quite rare then? In Austria of course, 60 Euros is the norm.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1749987]This is not uncommon behaviour. In Aca where the price is 40, some girls play the non change behavior when given 50 or kiss you and say thanks without returning the change, I start with do you have 10 right after the session, to make clear that I will not tip them.
I know of only 2 60 Euro clubs in Germany, Artemis in Berlin and Palast in Freiburg, all other clubs are 40 - 50, with only Acapulco being a 40 Euro club that I know of. Are 60 Euro clubs quite rare then? In Austria of course, 60 Euros is the norm.[/QUOTE]Haus Dupont in Wuppertal (owned by Bob ex HP boss) also charges 60 Euros for 30 min of which 40 Euros go to the girl and 20 Euros to the club (no entrance fee though).
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1749950]This thread was for real FKK Babylon close to Koln with Alexa, queen of BBBJ in FKK, 50 for 30 minutes.
Also club Babylon in Hamburg, huge with many rooms, but not so many girls, 60 for 30 minutes, I preferred club Atmos in Hamburg, 50 for 30 minutes, in Hamburg BBBJ and DFK are for extra, never been to Harmony south of Hamburg.[/QUOTE]Actually, the thread says FKK Babylon which is in Hamburg. The one in Elsdorf is a Saunaclub. Reason for the confusion.
[QUOTE=Delta Indigo;1749987]This is not uncommon behaviour. In Aca where the price is 40, some girls play the non change behavior when given 50 or kiss you and say thanks without returning the change, I start with do you have 10 right after the session, to make clear that I will not tip them.
I know of only 2 60 Euro clubs in Germany, Artemis in Berlin and Palast in Freiburg, all other clubs are 40 - 50, with only Acapulco being a 40 Euro club that I know of. Are 60 Euro clubs quite rare then? In Austria of course, 60 Euros is the norm.[/QUOTE]
I could see that happening. I end up with several 20s before arriving at Aca so don't run into the situation. I sometimes see girls getting change at the front desk. The front desk lady sees me enough that I get greeted all the time. I know lots of guys don't think kindly of the lady up front, but who cares, you pay her and gives you the robe and stuff. Not as bad as the stone cold look ex-Oase front desk lady, like somebody else pointed out, she made it seem like you were committing a sin as you were paying her your entry. LOL. I've seen 3 front desk ladies at Aca, the youngest one was the most smily one. I think Turkish. One time I made a trip to Artemis before, and got used to handing out 60s, and paid couple girls 60s before I realized it, they were very appreciative.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1750289]Actually, the thread says FKK Babylon which is in Hamburg. The one in Elsdorf is a Saunaclub. Reason for the confusion.[/QUOTE]Babylon in Elsdorf is a real FKK with full naked girls, but quite average casting even better than the other real FKK in NRW Bernds, other clubs in Koln, Dusseldorf, GT, PHG are not real FKK.
In Babylon Hamburg, girls were not full naked, nor in Atmos.
Hi Everybody,
Does Babylon in Elsdorf still offer 30 euro for one-hour time limit with one-time sex, based on their website? Thank you very much for your advice in advance.
[QUOTE=Bfsie;1755241]Does Babylon in Elsdorf still offer 30 euro for one-hour time limit with one-time sex, based on their website? [/QUOTE]30 euro is for 1 hour entry fee in to club only, not sex. Babylon is 50 euro for 30 minutes like most other clubs.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1755243]30 euro is for 1 hour entry fee in to club only, not sex. Babylon is 50 euro for 30 minutes like most other clubs.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for your advice Banana Boi.
By the way, how do you think of Pauschalclub in Pulheim ([URL]http://www.pauschalclub-pulheim.de[/URL])? The girls there offer good service? Thank you very much.
[QUOTE=Bfsie;1755302]By the way, how do you think of Pauschalclub in Pulheim ([URL]http://www.pauschalclub-pulheim.de[/URL])? The girls there offer good service?[/QUOTE]According to German forums it must be terrible there.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1755405]According to German forums it must be terrible there.[/QUOTE]That's what I heard. Thank you.
Arrived at 17:00, it was very hot so the club was virtually empty, about 5/7 girls visible at at one time, the rest were in the room beside the stairs.
About 10 men.
As most of the girls did not speak English, I settled on an hour with Juliet, a black girl who was into DKK and BBBJ.
Left then and returned at 22:00 as the lady at the desk said I could return for free, having shelled out 590 m earlier.
Still very hot, about the same number of girls and men, except the LU rating had gone way down and most of the men were pot bellied!
Just couldn't get anything going here so had the food and left.
The cigarette smoke is pretty bad as well both times but especially in the evening.
Would I return, no.
[QUOTE=MagretCanard;1762521]Arrived at 17:00, it was very hot so the club was virtually empty, about 5/7 girls visible at at one time, the rest were in the room beside the stairs.
About 10 men.
As most of the girls did not speak English, I settled on an hour with Juliet, a black girl who was into DKK and BBBJ.
Left then and returned at 22:00 as the lady at the desk said I could return for free, having shelled out 590 m earlier.
Still very hot, about the same number of girls and men, except the LU rating had gone way down and most of the men were pot bellied!
Just couldn't get anything going here so had the food and left.
The cigarette smoke is pretty bad as well both times but especially in the evening.
Would I return, no.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report. I am planning to visit Babylon next week. What do you mean by saying "having shelled out 590 m earlier"? Also, how can you estimate total number of girls present at that day?
Does Babylon Elsdorf have a Dessoustag? I've RTFF and checked their website but I can't see any mention.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1764183]Does Babylon Elsdorf have a Dessoustag? I've RTFF and checked their website but I can't see any mention.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]No. They do have theme parties once in a while, but under normal conditions it's all FKK, all the time.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1764186]No. They do have theme parties once in a while, but under normal conditions it's all FKK, all the time.[/QUOTE]Thanks Free Dude.
[QUOTE=MagretCanard;1762521]As most of the girls did not speak English. Would I return, no.[/QUOTE]Due to Babylon's proximity to the French borderland there is a decent proportion of Francophones so the girls may actually know more French due to the clientele.
Hey Free Dude, thanks for the help on Babylon Julia. Though I would move the conversation to the appropriate thread.
How accurate is the LU represented on the Babylon website. The link you provided: [URL]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-anwesenheit.php[/URL].
I've never been to Babylon, usually frequenting GT and LR when I am in that area however because of Julia I might head to Babylon so accuracy I suppose is key.
I'll probably be in there area 2nd week or so in September, (unless my favorite girl returns somewhere else). How is the rest of the LU minus Julia?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=NoTaWorry;1764316]Hey Free Dude, thanks for the help on Babylon Julia. Though I would move the conversation to the appropriate thread.
How accurate is the LU represented on the Babylon website. The link you provided: [URL]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-anwesenheit.php[/URL].
I've never been to Babylon, usually frequenting GT and LR when I am in that area however because of Julia I might head to Babylon so accuracy I suppose is key.
I'll probably be in there area 2nd week or so in September, (unless my favorite girl returns somewhere else). How is the rest of the LU minus Julia?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Let's put it like this: the line up will be adjusted to be correct afterwards. If you are coming for a girl, you'd better call beforhand. The list seems to be getting less helpful all the time. For the remainder of the line up I'd say there are few girls that match Julia's looks, but there are a few young girls that are getting good reviews and there are some "veterans" that are always decent in the room. It definitely does not match the looks of the girls in clubs like Oase and Sharks, but for me there are always a few good options (Melinda for instance, but she has very mixed reviews, I've had both very good and very ordinary sessions with her). For what it's worth, DFK is standard with every girl.
[QUOTE=Dufey;1764201]Due to Babylon's proximity to the French borderland there is a decent proportion of Francophones so the girls may actually know more French due to the clientele.[/QUOTE]You probably mean Belgium borderland. There are usually plenty of customers and WG from Liege.
I have been recommended this club, but I see there are very few reports here (btw thanks to Magret and Free Dude).Has anybody any recent experience?
I am told that service level is very high, but I am wondering if the optics are good?. I have looked on the website but of course photos can be less than honest.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1792284]I have been recommended this club, but I see there are very few reports here (btw thanks to Magret and Free Dude).Has anybody any recent experience?
I am told that service level is very high, but I am wondering if the optics are good?. I have looked on the website but of course photos can be less than honest.[/QUOTE]Used to be one of my favorite clubs, but I have not been there in about 6 months. The optics varies. Generally not as good as Oase, but certainly not bad. The service is of course very good.
I am hoping to go back to Germany in the next few weeks and intend to visit here again.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1792284]I have been recommended this club, but I see there are very few reports here (btw thanks to Magret and Free Dude).Has anybody any recent experience?
I am told that service level is very high, but I am wondering if the optics are good?. I have looked on the website but of course photos can be less than honest.[/QUOTE]The optics are okay, not great. I think it is slightly worse than Samya. The service is good quality. And they have a number of hot black girls in good shape.
There are usually more guys than girls though.
Optics are not the key asset of Babylon, but still most girls look good (exceptions aside). For example Alexa, Kitty, Julia, Melinda and Tina. Black is not my taste, but according to others most of them look good too, but don't expect models like in Globe or other large clubs. If you go for optics only however, better you go to Samya or Acapulco, but much more difficult there to get a decent session with the beautiful ones.
In Babylon most girls offer good an intimate DFK and BBBJ (even outside the room during foreplay if wanted) and decent service in the room. Also most girls are relaxed and take time for you (and don't ask to go to the room after 30 seconds.).
Maxime and Delta, thanks very much. Sounds like I ought to make the drive there on my next visit to Germany in a couple of weeks.
[QUOTE=Maxime;1792370]Optics are not the key asset of Babylon, but still most girls look good (exceptions aside). For example Alexa, Kitty, Julia, Melinda and Tina. Black is not my taste, but according to others most of them look good too, but don't expect models like in Globe or other large clubs. If you go for optics only however, better you go to Samya or Acapulco, but much more difficult there to get a decent session with the beautiful ones.
In Babylon most girls offer good an intimate DFK and BBBJ (even outside the room during foreplay if wanted) and decent service in the room. Also most girls are relaxed and take time for you (and don't ask to go to the room after 30 seconds.).[/QUOTE]Agree, Babylon is my favorite club in NRW now. Food and ambiance after renovation are on par with Residenz. I also had good experience with 2 black girls from West Africa. Number of black girls was above average for the area, but almost all of them looked decent. I would say that lineup in general optically was pretty good, not many customers at all.
I had never gone with any black girls in all my years visiting FKKs because those I met, mainly at Oase, all had large or super large tits (e.g. Tina Turner sisters) and were very pushy and persistent in approaching me. OK, I did find the one in Bernd's (no longer there) nice, but her pussy ring put me off.
So, it was quite a revelation to find slim and attractive ones in Babylon this year. I have tried 3 already, and all with no regrets: Juliet, Précieuse (unbelievable nipples), and Iman (not that slim but fantastic performer).
I ended up with them while staking out for Alexa. I visited Babylon a few times just in order to find her, just like I used to go to Mainhatten just to find Aida. Somehow the thought of these 2 dream girls had made me make irrational visits to clubs that I would normally not bother to visit. I last saw Aida in Oase, so I am not tempted to visit Mainhatten anymore.
I was planning to go to Babylon again in 2 weeks time, but roster indicates Alexa is not working; so if anyone spots Alexa in Babylon please let me know.
[QUOTE=Maxime;1792370]Optics are not the key asset of Babylon, but still most girls look good (exceptions aside). For example Alexa, Kitty, Julia, Melinda and Tina. Black is not my taste, but according to others most of them look good too, but don't expect models like in Globe or other large clubs. If you go for optics only however, better you go to Samya or Acapulco, but much more difficult there to get a decent session with the beautiful ones.
In Babylon most girls offer good an intimate DFK and BBBJ (even outside the room during foreplay if wanted) and decent service in the room. Also most girls are relaxed and take time for you (and don't ask to go to the room after 30 seconds.).[/QUOTE]My favorite was Raissa. Very cute. Looks and personality. Felt more like a girl friend than a service provider. Too bad she is no longer there.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1792556]I had never gone with any black girls in all my years visiting FKKs because those I met, mainly at Oase, all had large or super large tits (e.g. Tina Turner sisters) and were very pushy and persistent in approaching me. OK, I did find the one in Bernd's (no longer there) nice, but her pussy ring put me off.
So, it was quite a revelation to find slim and attractive ones in Babylon this year. I have tried 3 already, and all with no regrets: Juliet, Prcieuse (unbelievable nipples), and Iman (not that slim but fantastic performer).
I ended up with them while staking out for Alexa. I visited Babylon a few times just in order to find her, just like I used to go to Mainhatten just to find Aida. Somehow the thought of these 2 dream girls had made me make irrational visits to clubs that I would normally not bother to visit. I last saw Aida in Oase, so I am not tempted to visit Mainhatten anymore.
I was planning to go to Babylon again in 2 weeks time, but roster indicates Alexa is not working; so if anyone spots Alexa in Babylon please let me know.[/QUOTE]Call thekefrau 02274-905588 and ask.
(Continued from Bernd's).
My July 4 weekend trip was taking me north from Bernd's, with Babylon in Elsdorf next on the itinerary. I'd been there a few years ago and had a great time with the African girls present, especially in one memorable threesome where the girls showed as much skill at licking my dick at the same time as I have ever experienced.
Train-bus connections got me from Bernd's to Babylon in less than a couple of hours. Once there I noticed the renovations since my last visit which really opened up the main sitting areas. I also observed that the selection of black girls was as strong as ever. My first pick was Sylvie from Guinea Conakry, my first time with a woman from there. I approached her sitting down on a coach so I only later noticed she was a bit chunkier than I would have liked. While her performance was fine, the lack of air conditioning in the room on one of the hottest days in German history made my own performance sub-par. Worse, Sylvie was a bit sharky, pushing anal rimming without telling me the 25 Euro extra charge, and sort of slowing down at the end to push us into a third half hour.
I had a better time with one of the girls I referenced above with the great threesome blow job. Iman from Mali was still at Babylon, a pleasant surprise. This lithe beauty was as good as I had remembered from my previous visit, and very friendly.
Another slender black girl had caught my eye several times at the club, which on this Saturday early afternoon was well attended with men, if not crowded. This young girl, made even cuter by the flower tucked behind one ear, was usually going off with a guy when I saw her, but as I was relaxing in a lounge chair in the back yard she came out and I called her over. Juliet from Cameroon lay down beside me and began to caress my chest and point further south. Soon she shifted down and began giving me a blow job, gently licking and sucking the head of my cock, giving a show to the older gentleman in the chair next to me, and in tune with the other amorous play I saw in the garden despite the heat (some innocent fun, like naked girls running through the sprinkler, was also enjoyable to watch). Juliet was just as sexy in the room, where she rode me and I pumped her, while battling the heat. She was one of the smiliest, friendly girls I've been with.
I left Babylon for the next leg of my journey at around 4 PM, in retrospect far too soon given the disappointment that faced me at Planet Eden later that day. There were too many other women I passed on, black girls but also white including one delicious blonde cutie, all resplendent in their Babylon nudity. I can't wait to get back to this club.
[QUOTE=IbnButtita;1795368](Continued from Bernd's).
My July 4 weekend trip was taking me north from Bernd's, with Babylon in Elsdorf next on the itinerary. I'd been there a few years ago and had a great time with the African girls present, especially in one memorable threesome where the girls showed as much skill at licking my dick at the same time as I have ever experienced.
Train-bus connections got me from Bernd's to Babylon in less than a couple of hours. Once there I noticed the renovations since my last visit which really opened up the main sitting areas. I also observed that the selection of black girls was as strong as ever. My first pick was Sylvie from Guinea Conakry, my first time with a woman from there. I approached her sitting down on a coach so I only later noticed she was a bit chunkier than I would have liked. While her performance was fine, the lack of air conditioning in the room on one of the hottest days in German history made my own performance sub-par. Worse, Sylvie was a bit sharky, pushing anal rimming without telling me the 25 Euro extra charge, and sort of slowing down at the end to push us into a third half hour.
I had a better time with one of the girls I referenced above with the great threesome blow job. Iman from Mali was still at Babylon, a pleasant surprise. This lithe beauty was as good as I had remembered from my previous visit, and very friendly.
Another slender black girl had caught my eye several times at the club, which on this Saturday early afternoon was well attended with men, if not crowded. This young girl, made even cuter by the flower tucked behind one ear, was usually going off with a guy when I saw her, but as I was relaxing in a lounge chair in the back yard she came out and I called her over. Juliet from Cameroon lay down beside me and began to caress my chest and point further south. Soon she shifted down and began giving me a blow job, gently licking and sucking the head of my cock, giving a show to the older gentleman in the chair next to me, and in tune with the other amorous play I saw in the garden despite the heat (some innocent fun, like naked girls running through the sprinkler, was also enjoyable to watch). Juliet was just as sexy in the room, where she rode me and I pumped her, while battling the heat. She was one of the smiliest, friendly girls I've been with.
I left Babylon for the next leg of my journey at around 4 PM, in retrospect far too soon given the disappointment that faced me at Planet Eden later that day. There were too many other women I passed on, black girls but also white including one delicious blonde cutie, all resplendent in their Babylon nudity. I can't wait to get back to this club.[/QUOTE]I had great threesome in kino room with Sylvie and Juliet in early September, both French and English speaking. They are pretty proactive but I was not pushed for extras at all. Juliet lives in Nantes, France and travels to Babylon every 2 weeks. She left me her Nantes phone number in case I will be in France. Babylon has significant number of French speaking girls because of close proximity to Liege, Belgium.
On 11th is its Karneval party.
Ibn, thanks for the report
Is Babylon still pay on leaving?
[QUOTE=WildMan;1796371]Is Babylon still pay on leaving?[/QUOTE]Nope, you now pay the girls after each session (pitty, since before you paid the theke frau and NOT the girl, which made it more GFE like IMHO). Panthera/AG stopped also with this more than a year ago, so now only(?) Bernds has this system of post-paid at the theke.
Seems like the switch to new payment system earlier this year has affected girls differently. One girl was happy with it as her revenue has gone up since the 20% that the house used to take far exceeds their increased entrance fee.
Another girl, who was less popular, griped that with the increase in entrance fees to 70 euros, she was more stressed to have to take more customers.
Quite a lot of girls present today, with far more blacks than I have ever seen before. Not many customers present so I could take my pick of the girls easily; except that sadly, Alexa was heavily booked by others as usual giving no chance to tourists like myself.
TankTank, I was there today also. Sorry to miss you.
I realised I am getting too picky. I didn't find any girls who met either my optic or chat standards so I left without sessioning.
From what I could see the girls gave really good pre room service and had a lot of very happy regulars, so I think it was me who was the odd one out.
The atmosphere was a little desultory, and I was surprised that several girls seemed to wear their towels most of the time, which I find a turnoff.
I did find the layout a bit impracticable for watching the girls, unless one sat at the bar. I made the mistake of spending most of my time on the couches, which for a newcomer was not wise. I had hoped that as a newcomer I would be seen as an easy target, but in fact it seemed to work the other way.
Maybe I have forgotten how to play the game. Maybe I need to change my handle.
I counted the girls present but never got close to the 30 plus listed on the website. I think I saw four black girls
During on the way I saw a beautiful street prostitute but didn't stop. On my return I couldn't find the place again unfortunately.
Optimist,
I normally sit at the small dining table facing the buffet spread on the high stools where I can see the door to the girls' changing room. It is very easy from there to keep track of girls who have finished changing after a room or when they have newly arrived. From there I can also keep track of the location of the 4-5 customers present so as to decide how fast I would need to get to a target girl who has emerged from the changing room. But I was dislocated for a good 1 hour yesterday as 2 silly African girls sat there for a long time.
Spending time on couch is of course a disaster as this is a partial non-approach club! Only the black girls approach the customers, to the chagrin of the whites who play ball.
As a newbie, they would have lined up in front of you upon your arrival, and you just need to quickly smile at those you find attractive and they will come to you later.
The website is not fully accurate as it does not reflect the current state. It reflects what the girls had planned at the start of the week. It is updated post-facto. I think there were on average between 15 -20 girls there yesterday. I said 'quite a lot' because there were lesser in my previous visits. And since I was in Bernd's the day before, even 15 appears huge! There were 3 black girls in the early afternoon but more arrived later.
It is strange that you mention towel covering. I did not notice any when they walk around. Quite a few covered their bottoms up when they sit in the couch as they feel cold. One joy I have is to see all the pussies in clear view in the dining area which is quite bright.
Maybe we did meet briefly as when I was at the dining table there were two African girls who were there a long time.
As for towel covering, maybe it was just a couple of girls, one of which I was potentially interested in.
Cheers
Parking is through the back of the building (drive past the front of the FKK, turn left and then again left alongside the petrol station, you'll see a barely visible signpost that says «Babylon» directing you to an unpaved plot of ground, that's FKK Babylon's parking lot). 60 euro entrance, no safe to keep valuables, no coat-hanger in the locker (you just throw your things inside in a heap), food available but average, clients chiefly from Belgium and the Netherlands.
What about the line-up? Actually not at all bad. The distinguishing feature, of course, is the black girls. There are 5 of them, of whom I sessioned 3. Two are from Rwanda. I sessioned the taller and less ugly one. Lovers of big female labia beware: that Rwandan had monstrously overgrown rooster combs jutting out from her crack. Not for me thank you! Protrusions in the trouser department are best kept for the male sex. The best-looking black is from Mali: bubble butt, round face with delicate features, shapely figure, blow-job more than OK, somewhat aloof though, a touch of sadness in her eyes and demeanour. The African girl most in demand was a skinny Ghanaian with big glasses and a permanent smile: I understood the reason of her popularity with clients when she deep-throated my cock: I've seldom experienced something like that up to now. She was also perfect in doggy-style, locking herself into position and ajusting to whatever rhythm or angle I steered her to. She was a real pro and a pleasure to fuck in spite of what I regarded as disappointingly narrow hips (compared to the above-mentioned Mali girl). Number 5 of the African team (unquestioned) looked very much as the Ghanaian (very slim with an engaging face but ridiculously narrow hips) and was reported to be from Sierra Leone.
All in all, Babylon deserved a permanent entry in my car's Navigation System.
I heard Babylon run some kind of hotel next door for clients (no girls allowed though). I'd already booked Hotel Europarc in Kerpen (15 km away). At 50 euro it was the best value for money I've ever had in terms of hotels in Germany. Its distance from FKK Samya is only 25 km so it can be a good base from which to combine Samya and Babylon.
Only 4 girls on duty when I arrived shortly before midday, but among them was Precious which I'the promised myself to explore further. She had her contact lenses instead of her big glasses. Precious (pic on the Babylon website) is a deep-throat specialist but she's apparently also very much into anal. Her overslim figure is in contrast with her eagerness and ability to accommodate calibers via all holes.
I also went with Jessica (no pic on website), a not too tall German girl with perk rounded butts. I'll take her to the room again at the next opportunity, as I left with the impression of not having exhausted her erotic potential at this one session. If ever a girl gave me the impression she liked being fucked doggy-style, Jessica was the one. She told me she didn't do anal.
Even if I'm spent and can no longer have a completely fulfilling session with a girl that intrigues me, I still try her out on the spot as I never know when and if I'll meet her again. Better burst the fantasy bubble there and then rather than carry it in my mind where it can fester for ages should our paths never cross again.
Anyone seen Julia recently at Babylon? Think she may be there and of January? Any similar ladies to Julia at Babylon? Is Julia still working at LR? Thanks and Cheers!
[QUOTE=NoTaWorry;1821218]Anyone seen Julia recently at Babylon? Think she may be there and of January? Any similar ladies to Julia at Babylon? Is Julia still working at LR? Thanks and Cheers![/QUOTE]She is currently in Neby in Dortmund. There is daily list of the girls that are working on freiercafe, Baby (her name there) was there today as well. She typically works 5 days or so a week, but the days differ so you'd better call or check the list (usually updated around 1 pm).
Apparently Julia is now in golden time using the name Raluca.
I have always been curious about this club so having a day to kill in Koln I decided to visit it. It is essentially in the countryside and you need to go 6 stops along the S Bahn from the central station (HBF) in Koln and then take a 30 minute bus ride. The club itself is very well kept and I did see all of the ladies who were listed as 'present' that. The choice was not great but as soon as I saw Précieuse I decided to get her into conversation as soon as possible. She is quite tall with an hour glass figure. Instead of conversation she when into full on DFK mode. DFK is common in the public areas of this club, E. G, you can have an audience if you go in the Kino.
We eventually agreed on 90 minutes in the spa downstairs and then the room. This was extremely intense and ranks as one of my best ever punts.
[QUOTE=XXL;1815953]I heard Babylon run some kind of hotel next door for clients (no girls allowed though). I'd already booked Hotel Europarc in Kerpen (15 km away).....'[/QUOTE]Does anyone have more details, or know of other Accommodation within 30 min. Walking distance, at a reasonable price?
[URL]http://www.ratskeller-elsdorf.com/[/URL]
A guesthouse, 15 min walk to Babylon in Elsdorf.
No need for a hotel, Babylon has 4 hotel rooms itself now (in the building next door). Fairly large double rooms and the next day you can have breakfast in the club again (between 10 and 11). Price is 50 euros per room.
There used to be the arnoldusstube at walking distance, but last time I came by they had "for rent" signs in the windows, so I think they are closed (weren't answering the phone either).
Reply from Cheffe at Babylon: Confirms they have double rooms, 10 m away, e50 inc breakfast, but says only three rooms. Reserve be e-mail.
Also suggests "Hotel Hubertushof" in 50189 Elsdorf as an alternative.
The das-haus-hubertus website shows prices from e55 single; e85 double inc breakfast. It's at Gladbacher Str. 124, that looks a good 30 minute walk.
The Ratskeller website doesn't give prices.
What a poor day! I can't believe that the lineup on a Saturday was so bad, there weren't as many women as expected and not that many were good looking. There was one Turkish hag of at least 50 hitting on me. I got the cold shoulder from one of the few cute girls and yet found some satisfaction with an incredible BBBJCIM for 75 Euros from Rebecca. So not a loss but a poor afternoon.
[QUOTE=Downandup;1863120]What a poor day! I can't believe that the lineup on a Saturday was so bad, there weren't as many women as expected and not that many were good looking. There was one Turkish hag of at least 50 hitting on me. I got the cold shoulder from one of the few cute girls and yet found some satisfaction with an incredible BBBJCIM for 75 Euros from Rebecca. So not a loss but a poor afternoon.[/QUOTE]Babylon is notorious for having poor lineup on some Saturdays. It is a good idea to call ahead and ask how many girls are working.
I really like this club a lot. I was her about 6 years ago and vowed to return.
The remodeled club is much nicer now, clean and open with good lighting. Beer is available and the food is very good, on part with goldentime. I think the hot tub is far nicer than any other club.
The service provided by the girls is very good, with DFK standard. I did blonde RO Clara be tits (6/7/8) in the kino, just baby at my choice.
The downside is that for the money charged, I thought the girls were pretty plain Romanian look. If they could attract a few better lookers, this would be a slammingly good club. I thought most girls were in the 5. 5 to 7. 5 category. About 20 girls in attendance today, a Tuesday.
[QUOTE=Mambomike;1871363]I really like this club a lot. I was her about 6 years ago and vowed to return.
The remodeled club is much nicer now, clean and open with good lighting. Beer is available and the food is very good, on part with goldentime. I think the hot tub is far nicer than any other club.
The service provided by the girls is very good, with DFK standard. I did blonde RO Clara be tits (6/7/8) in the kino, just baby at my choice.
The downside is that for the money charged, I thought the girls were pretty plain Romanian look. If they could attract a few better lookers, this would be a slammingly good club. I thought most girls were in the 5. 5 to 7. 5 category. About 20 girls in attendance today, a Tuesday.[/QUOTE]I liked this club too on my one visit which was before the remodelling. Is the food still ordered off a menu and therefore cooked specifically for you? It was when I visited so probably the best food I've had in any club but I suppose it would be difficult for the larger clubs to provide this type of food service.
[QUOTE=Jim57;1871517]I liked this club too on my one visit which was before the remodelling. Is the food still ordered off a menu and therefore cooked specifically for you? It was when I visited so probably the best food I've had in any club but I suppose it would be difficult for the larger clubs to provide this type of food service.[/QUOTE]Yes food is still a la carte and very good. That's probably why you pay E60 entrance. Liked this club when it was smaller, great service (open action all areas), good food and E50 entry.
My first FKK experience started with Babylon. I had no idea what to expect as this was my first time at an FKK club.
I wanted to have sex with a black girl for a long time. Babylon was good choice.
When I walked in, suddenly, I saw a beautiful black who named Cherry. Bingo.
I paid the entrance fee and she showed me around and gave information.
I took a shower and went up to the main area. There were 2 black girls, Cherry and Naomi.
I talked about sex with Cherry and asked for details. And then we went to one of the rooms and started kissing on.
She was a real GFE, kissing with passion and hard fucking. I gave her 10 points. My first black was amazing.
I went to shower again and ate something. I wanted to have sex Iman or Alexa but I couldn't see them.
After awhile I saw Anna. She is 19 years old and very beautiful. I decided to give her a chance.
Bad choice! Honestly I didn't like her performance. No DFK, standard BBBJ and normal sex. I gave her 6 points.
Will go back there? I hope.
Because Babylon is small but funny place.
By the way, my English is not good, sorry about that.
Next day I decided to go to Sharks.
Yes, it isn't obvious that you do that, but watch the girls and locals. The menu is on the counter across from the entry desk. Choose any items of the menu, written in english, french, and of course german. Write the order on the provided white slips, then put it under the magnets on the kitchen door. The cooked to serve dishes take 20 or so minutes. They will call your name that you write on the slip.
[QUOTE=Jim57;1871517]I liked this club too on my one visit which was before the remodelling. Is the food still ordered off a menu and therefore cooked specifically for you? It was when I visited so probably the best food I've had in any club but I suppose it would be difficult for the larger clubs to provide this type of food service.[/QUOTE]
Babylon is out of the middle of nowhere and because of that I have not been there so often. However this time I booked one of their hotel rooms for 50 Euros a night and the rooms were fine. The owner is a very nice guy who has very good taste in wine and of all the clubs I have been to, Babylon by far has the best wine selection.
The owner has been slowly renovating the place and he has remade the entire bar, he is presently having the front garden remodeled as well.
A lot of girls were gone due to the Orthodox Easter, but there were still some good talent around, a good number of black girls as well as some Romanians.
Is Queen of BBBJ, slim, white skin, Alexa. Ro, still there? I m sure granny Sylvana can t compete with her, even without teeth. So soft and sweet, in Alexa mouth.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1877513]Is Queen of BBBJ, slim, white skin, Alexa. Ro, still there? I m sure granny Sylvana can t compete with her, even without teeth. So soft and sweet, in Alexa mouth.[/QUOTE]She is there. Check schedule link below: [URL]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-anwesenheit.php[/URL].
[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1877568]She is there. Check schedule link below: [URL]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-anwesenheit.php[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks, but you know as well as me, it's not really reliable. But I remember, sleeping for about 30 mn, being in her mouth, a real dream. But she is limited for stamina for sex, but high skill with her mouth. It was in 2013.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1877582]Thanks, but you know as well as me, it's not really reliable. But I remember, sleeping for about 30 mn, being in her mouth, a real dream. But she is limited for stamina for sex, but high skill with her mouth. It was in 2013.[/QUOTE]This schedule is reliable to the extent that a girl is at least in the staff and did not leave. Her concrete work days can sometimes be different and need to be checked by phone.
Here's a brief bit of info about this place and my opinion on it.
FKK Babylon is indeed 'in the middle of nowhere' relatively speaking, in the same way that World and Oase is. By car it's 25 minutes or so from Cologne. It's a large and well appointed club, facilities are good in many respects. The food appeared reasonable but the flies landing on it and the lack of action to combat this put me right off it. Here's another downside. Both the number of girls and the quality of them is rather poor IMHO. What girls there are seem to have a pre-occupation with larking around with each other, dancing and taking little interest in the guys once they have approached all the guys present. When making there approach some girls here can be quite full-on in their approach, some would welcome this as I do but these girls are a bit over bearing. Some of the guys that either could not say no or were content with the approaches often received intimate contact from the girls, including BJ's in wide open public areas. On my late week finish I'd say there were 20 girls max and about as many clients at any one time.
This club has so much potential, but having a 60 Euro entrance fee all day from opening at 11.00 shows a lack of imagination and a blinkered and stubborn approach to business, especially given their geographical location. Lowering the fee for the first couple of hours would attract guys and in turn more girls would consider working there and so a snowball effect may happen. All things considered rather disappointed.
Entry is 60 now? Not anymore 50 ? With such casting. Other clubs didn't increase entry since 2013, some even got it low. You can go to Aca for 30 , even low casting on this Saturday, but no competition for beauties, or to Sharks with 60 girls, for entry 45.
The good thing is to pay girls when finishing the room now, at least they are sure to be paid.
Babylon's modest LU was already deployed when I rang the bell at 11 am but what I saw did not make me horny in the least. I had a good memory of Precious (Ghana) but she wasn't there. Of the two black girls present, one had a boy's figure, no butts, no nothing, the other had an OK figure but a horrid (a gnome's) face.
There was the usual jolly easy-going atmosphere about the club but the sex looked most unpromissing. So was the food on offer.
Since I had a hotel booking in Valls (NL) next to Sixsens, I decided to cut my losses and drive the 60 km to Sixsens at once.
How much is entry now? Still 50 or 60 ?
Entry is 60 since long time (half year at least?)
Even though I like the remodeling and I enjoy the free beer as well as a few great service providers there, it's actually rather overpriced for nrw standards (like Bernds). Discount days / happy hour policies would make sense.
Checking in at 11 on early weekday expecting a decent line up within 1 pm does not make too much sense.
That is in any NRW club (except GT which is mainly a daytime club).
You should watch out for the african gnomes. Perhaps she was a part pygmee? Such high genetic diversity in africa that before you know it, you've had sex with all the races of azeroth, even including the worgen... Except the humans (europeans), and blood elves.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1894897]Entry is 60 since long time (half year at least?
Even though I like the remodeling and I enjoy the free beer as well as a few great service providers there, it's actually rather overpriced for nrw standards (like Bernds). Discount days / happy hour policies would make sense.[/QUOTE]I didn't go since thin fake blond Barbie. Ro on end of 2014, but for 60, I will go to GT or LR. Sharks can be for 45.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1894897]Checking in at 11 on early weekday expecting a decent line up within 1 pm does not make too much sense.[/QUOTE]Yes, from 11 to 11.30 am, half the girls, especially the better ones, are in the changing room and so you will not even see them. I have arrived at 11 am a few times, but I spend the first hour eating and watching the girls emerge from the changing room. Many of the girls will then have breakfast.
I made a second visit on 28 June and arrived about 12.30 pm when there were already a number of girls present. The lineup in this club has been the subject of some comment. I would say it was a mixed bag. Three who were older and not attractive (to me anyway) and a large number of East Europeans. The clients were mainly older Germans and it is a bit off the beaten track travel wise.
Many of the girls have photos on the webpage and indeed pictures were being taken on the day. One notable feature of this club is African girls and on the day three were present -- Naomi, Lilly and Iman. I spotted Naomi and Lilly at the bar and asked Naomi to join me. She has un-blurred photographs on the webpage. Take a look!! We sat in the lounge for a period with extremely intense DFK and other exploring. We then went in the jacuzzi for a period of time where I found out she is receptive to pussy fingering. Then went to a room with more intense DFK, face sitting and finally I completed in her mouth.
Naomi is an excellent performer and very friendly. One of my best punts ever. After a couple of hours recovery, I wanted to go with Lilly but she was busy and my time limited so I went with Iman. This was an above average punt but not in the same league as Naomi.
Each girl in this club has her own forum which should help in making a choice. I saw several others I would consider going with but a significant number definitely not.
Called at Babylon yesterday for a quick visit. I arrived at 6. 45 and stayed until about 10.30. About 18 months since my last visit there. Its been renovated since then and I like the new layout. Club wasn't that busy. Maybe 25 guys and no more than 20 girls. LU okay but nothing special. Three or four girls that met my spec.
I had been driving all day & was hot, hungry and tired so I took my time to get some food and cool down before deciding on going to a room with Tanja. Small, slim, shortish blonde hair and A / be tits. English not great so not much conversation. Good session with some DFK, BBBJ, 69, sex and finish on her tits. I came very strongly and part of my load spurted onto her neck and onto the pillow. Sorry! Damage 50 euro. No extra for COB!
Ordered a nice meal from the a la carte menu and relaxed for a while before heading on the road to my hotel.
I have had sessions twice with Tanja before. Sweet girl, good service. She arrives early by 11 am and is a good gap-filler while waiting for Alexa to arrive or to be free.
[QUOTE=Jim57;1911491]Ordered a nice meal from the a la carte menu[/QUOTE]Is this a new thing at Babylon or have I just stupidly missed it?
Not new: the food is ordered from a short menu.The procedure confused me the first time as you are supposed to write your order on a piece of paper and fix it to the outside of the kitchen door. I committed the cardinal sin of opening the kitchen door and looking inside as I couldn't see how to affix the order.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1911660]Not new: the food is ordered from a short menu.[/QUOTE]I've only ever eaten stuff on the 'breakfast shelf ' or waited for the BBQ to fire up. Live and learn...
I know this club since some years, one of the best of NRW in my experience, this is my personal chart about models, Watch out! The turn-over is very intense. And some of them are often in holidays or in other places. Sometimes one girl is gone away and come back for a week test after bad report and trouble with client, as a second chance. But only a second chance.
Only the girls I practiced.
The top: Denisa (Porno star), Romina (Girl-friend star) in holidays, Roberta, Sarah (a must) and in holidays, Sandra a new one very cute as Sofia, Daniela Porno star, Elli, an ancient but very good value.
The low: Nelly (too money-minded, no social time because no English neither German! And some decayed teeth and bad breath not really clean), Anna (low rate on site but nice body), Anastasia (out), Melody, bad sex level.
[QUOTE=Dorfman;1914214]..... The low: Nelly (too money-minded, no social time because no English neither German! And some decayed teeth and bad breath not really clean), Anna (low rate on site but nice body), Anastasia (out), Melody, bad sex level.[/QUOTE]I know Melody since her very first beginning in Blue Note in 2011/12. Speaking German fluently and being very open minded and happy to talk with people she is not only a sympathic woman but also a high performing woman on the room. She has a broad range of services but never tries to sell you something or making rip-off. I spent a lot of time with her on the room since then and I was another hour with her last Saturday. She built up her own fan community over the years and to be honest, you're the first one I read a negative report on Melody. She offers great social time prior going on the room. Nnetheless good to know that opinions are different.
You probably right, I think I 'm mistaken with another girl. Some of friends speaks about a girl, as soon I remember I talk to you! But I confirm for others one (top and bad) I practiced myself.
Best regards.
[QUOTE=Dorfman;1914214]The low: Nelly (too money-minded, no social time because no English neither German! And some decayed teeth and bad breath not really clean), Anna (low rate on site but nice body), Anastasia (out), Melody, bad sex level.[/QUOTE]I have a very different opion concerning Nelly. For me, she is my favorite girl in Babylon (though in the moment, she is absent). I know her since May; penultimate Friday (July 29th) I had two wonderful full-hour-dates with her, girlfriend-style and I'll never forget about this.
And no bad breath – though I'm very sensitive with that. We had wonderful deep kisses, so I would have felt if there had been problems in this respect.
Nelly keeps several records in my life:
- I never saw a woman of that age (30) with such a youthful body. 100 % perfect, no signs of aging in spite of the hard job and a lot of smoking. She must have stopped aging sometimes in her youth. Happy girl to look so young! I wouldn't mention this, if she were 22. I expect a high degree of perfection in FKK club girls. But she is 30! She is a sort of a biological wonder. When I first met her, I rated her much younger. It was such a big surprise when I noticed the 30 years on the Babylon Homepage.
- I never saw such (two-colored) eyes. Amazing. I have to look her eyes again and again.
- I never had so intense and deep kissing ever - I never had simultaneous organism in lifetime (I felt her contractions, it seemed to be real). A first-time experience for me in the age of 57.
And yes, I had some tears on my cheeks when I was with her in room because of all of this fascination. About the luck that I have that I had the possibility of this experience, and my chance (now it's only a hope, because she is absent in the moment) to repeat it.
I watched her a lot when I was in Babylon and my impression is that she likes this job and has some fun herself with the clients. And the combination of this very young, teenage-style body, her youthful smile, her uncomplicated and very natural personality (no prostitute-like-style) on one side and the sexual experience of a 30 why old woman on the other side is fantastic!
What about money-minded? She never tried to offer me any extras. I paid the standard fee for each hour (+ a little bonus because she was so nice). Beside of this, she makes no pressure to go to room. I didn't see any animation of her (though it would be okay and normal in Babylon). In the late evening, after the last session with me, I saw her sitting with a client at the bar for hours (smoking one cigarette after the other together, before they finally went to room after midnight. I've never seen a girl with so much patience with clients. She could have made several rooms in this time instead. Any other girl would have stopped this after some time ("room or not? She doesn't seem to be money-minded at all, and it looks as if she makes this job more because of fun than to maximize her income.
For me: 10/10. And her reputation in Babylon's own forum is also very good, in every respect that is rated there. I hope she returns to Babylon soon.
Oldy57
I visited again 2 weeks ago. On my previous visit I had met and went with Naomi, one of the African girls for which this club is well known, and shortly after entering met up with her. This led to a 90 minute session following on from DFK in the lounge to the jaccuzzi and then to a room. Overall this was on a par or above the excellent session I had with her last time. Finished with a facial where she rubbed my dick all over her face. After some time to recover, I wanted to go with Lilly, another of the African girls, but she was busy so went with Cherry. She is also African and again her service was excellent.
This club is not the most convenient to get to especially if you do not drive. It is quite small compared to big city FKKs and the girls do not approach you. At least I have not seen this happen during my visits. Also with many of them you get intensive DFK in the lounge (both of mine above) before you go to a room. The customers tend to be more elderly and I think it leads the girls to be less aggressive in order to set up regulars.
As stated above, it is known for its African girls and as I like girls from that part of the world its excellent for me. As for the other girls, this is very much a mixed bag. They have a very active form and there you will see glowing reports on some of them. For me, too many were older and not very attractive. I did, however, see one of them, German I think, giving one of her customers a blow job in the lounge!
I took the chance going to Babylon for my first time on 30 July (Saturday). A friend of mine hosted for his birthday party on that day (special entrance fee for visitors on the guest list). A nice club but not so easy to get there by public transport. Excellent atmosphere all over the day, good food and a lot of nice girls. On that day also five black girls from Africa. A beautiful surprise.
I had two sessions. Half an hour with Naomi recommended by all the guys I know and I fully confirm and share their entjusiasm. In the evening I was booked by Melody, one of my favourites when Blue Note in Duesseldorf was still active until December 2013. We know each other quite good and therefore a one hour session was a must as we don't have anymore the opportunity to meet regularly.
Melody worked for a while in panthera and in aca gold.
How's the lineup lately? Would a 9 or 10 PM arrival on a Saturday night be worth it?
[QUOTE=Zumboit;1938150]How's the lineup lately? Would a 9 or 10 PM arrival on a Saturday night be worth it?[/QUOTE]Bab is not a night club. Closed about 1 am.
I arrived at the club about 1930 and the club was quite busy with plenty of Bears and about 30 girls. My original intention was to session with Yasmin as I had been encouraged by the reports on her and I liked what I saw when I saw her in the flesh as she did a number of sexy pole dances for about 30 minutes which I quite enjoyed sitting watching with a beer or two!! Whilst I was sat watching I was joined by Sascha a pretty young Romanian who was wearing big sexy glasses, we got chatting and as she speaks very good English we had an interesting conversation which of course led to a room which was highly enjoyable with her service performed to a very high standard and with a good attitude. After a bit of rest and a few more beers I went on the prowl for Yasmin but I guess that she was in a room or something. Instead I got chatting to Monika a girl with whom I had previously roomed on a visit in 2015. Monika is very cute and has nice enhanced breasts with lovely nipples. She is full of fun and it wasn't long before she had me ready for a room and I just knew that it would be very good and I was not let down!! A few more beers later and it was approaching 2315 and there was still no sign of the elusive Yasmin so I settled on a final room with Michelle, a 28 year old Polish Blonde who has been in the club for a couple of weeks having been at Oceans previously (No idea what her name was there and she didn't want to tell me, either that or she didn't understand the question)! Her service was pretty good but not as good as the other two but it was still a worthwhile experience and I might repeat in the future. All too soon it was the final beer of the night and at about 2350 the counter lady came round telling me and my friend that it was time to make a move. Just before we left though there was some couch action going on in the main bar area with Monika and a Bear so we stood and observed whilst finishing our beers off. All in all an excellent if all too brief visit and I certainly will be back sometime soon as there are plenty of options that I would wish to try. Other girls that I spoke to were Irene from Turkey (not my type at all) and Linda from Serbia an ultra thin black haired girl who has only been in the club a week or so.
[QUOTE=MrBluenose;1943544]Other girls that I spoke to were Irene from Turkey (not my type at all)[/QUOTE]The black girls at Babylon are my main reason to go there, yet Irene managed to convince me to try her: we had 20 minutes in the jacuzzi and then moved to a room. I did not regret going with her although she is not my type either. However, she is one of the horniest ladies I have ever been with and managed to get a third pop out of me which is not at alle usual at my age.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1943668]The black girls at Babylon are my main reason to go there, yet Irene managed to convince me to try her: we had 20 minutes in the jacuzzi and then moved to a room. I did not regret going with her although she is not my type either. However, she is one of the horniest ladies I have ever been with and managed to get a third pop out of me which is not at alle usual at my age.[/QUOTE]I only saw one Black Girl in there the other night. 4 or 5 are listed on the site but I guess they could have gone home. I am quite interested to have a tumble with Naomi, it looks like that could be interesting!
[QUOTE=MrBluenose;1944029]I only saw one Black Girl in there the other night. 4 or 5 are listed on the site but I guess they could have gone home. I am quite interested to have a tumble with Naomi, it looks like that could be interesting![/QUOTE]The planner option on their website gives the current week and also the next. This is much better than all other clubs I have visited over the years. Of course, no such system can be 100 per cent correct but you can always call them. I visited on Thursday when there were four African girls. My first session was with Naomi. This is the third time I have been with her and she is absolutely excellent all round. After a recovery period, I went with Lilly (from Ghana) which was also a top class session. I have also been with Cherry in the past and she was excellent as well.
[QUOTE=DavidFuk;1944079]The planner option on their website gives the current week and also the next. This is much better than all other clubs I have visited over the years. Of course, no such system can be 100 per cent correct but you can always call them. I visited on Thursday when there were four African girls. My first session was with Naomi. This is the third time I have been with her and she is absolutely excellent all round. After a recovery period, I went with Lilly (from Ghana) which was also a top class session. I have also been with Cherry in the past and she was excellent as well.[/QUOTE]I agree their planner is pretty good and far superior to most of the other clubs that have Websites. I will certainly need to try some of these African girls on my next visit but for now I will have to content myself with either Sugar or Daisy (both give pretty good service) when I visit Heaven 7 later in the week.
I visited there recently on a Friday early evening. 25-30 girls walking, sitting and lying around. After a half hour or so standing at bar, Cherry comes out. We make eye contact, start talking, she soon asks me to go to lounge area where we talk for a while and then get into some intense DFK. Moved to a room and spent close to two hours there. Service was outstanding. Slim, very firm body. She didn't come across as wild porn star type, but if you're looking for GFE, she is 10/10.
Last Thursday. I visited this place. It was very nice. 10 girls end 8 men inside. I was positive about all this in this club.
[QUOTE=Willyboy;1975081]Last Thursday. I visited this place. It was very nice. 10 girls end 8 men inside. I was positive about all this in this club.[/QUOTE]I also visited on Thursday. As usual on my visits to this club I went first with Naomi. Super excellent 90 minutes all round finishing with a facial. After a rest I started to think about a second session. The majority of the European girls I did not find to be very attractive. I did see Yasmin in the lounge but lets just say I do not find bubble bottoms to my liking. Then Cherry appeared and I went with her. I had seen her once before and the service this time round was also excellent. As I was leaving I spotted Lilly. You cannot go wrong with these three in my opinion!
On their website, it states: Küssen und Französisch ohne. Auch gerne überall I'm Club. Sind bei uns selbstverständlich.
What does this mean?
It does not make sense when Google translating into English.
Do they provide deep French kiss or light kiss?
It just says: "Kissing and BBBJ. Also everywhere in the club. Is normal for us. " So public action, and compared to most clubs there is a lot more public action. You should assume DFK, and a lot better than the average in Hessen.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1986658]On their website, it states: Kssen und Franzsisch ohne. Auch gerne berall I'm Club. Sind bei uns selbstverstndlich.
What does this mean?
It does not make sense when Google translating into English.
Do they provide deep French kiss or light kiss?[/QUOTE]See below what it means. The club doesn't have just one big room where everybody sees everybody. It has nooks and crannies. I remember some sort of corridor with sofas. So action can be "public" while maintaining some privacy. I don't remember any such public action when I visited though, but I was there during the day. Daylight hours are not conducive to public debauchery.
[QUOTE=XXL;1986820]See below what it means. The club doesn't have just one big room where everybody sees everybody. It has nooks and crannies. I remember some sort of corridor with sofas. So action can be "public" while maintaining some privacy. I don't remember any such public action when I visited though, but I was there during the day. Daylight hours are not conducive to public debauchery.[/QUOTE]In this club most of the girls do not approach you and if they do not, in my experience, to the level of other clubs- unless, of course, you already know each other. Once you make contact with a girl there is the option of sitting in the lounge when some girls will definitely engage in DFK but this is totally her decision and may well vary from client to client. Others may wait until you go to a room. Just because there is no public action does not of course mean poor performance in the room- read the reports in this thread and you will find reports with names of girls who do not engage in public DFK but deliver top class service in the room.
In the times I have been I have only once seen a girl giving a customer a blow job in the lounge and she was one of the least attractive in my opinion of course.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1986658]On their website, it states: Kssen und Franzsisch ohne. Auch gerne berall I'm Club. Sind bei uns selbstverstndlich.
What does this mean?
It does not make sense when Google translating into English.
Do they provide deep French kiss or light kiss?[/QUOTE]On the several occasions that I have been there, I've witnessed much more public action than just DFK. Opposite the bar is a large round couch area where one girl fucked a guy in broad daylight. Babylon is not the only club where that happens as I've also seen it at Golden Time, World and a few others. Have to agree that the girls at Babylon are not generally aggressive, but once in a while you get one that won't leave you alone even if you have tried to subtly let her know you're not interested.
To answer your question about the translation, the first sentence reads 'kissing and BBBJ'. In the room, the sessions are what you would expect from any FKK. Most girls have bios on their website that show what they will and will not provide and I'm pretty sure they have an English version of the service menu to assist with the translation.
Boy,
Do I wish I had discovered this website before today! I didn't even know FKK clubs existed until 2 years ago on my last trip to Germany, even though I had been going to Germany for work regularly for many years. I was just googling for some nightlife and ended up making some great discoveries.
I went to this sauna club called Babylon in Elsdorf and met a girl called Precieuse. What an unbelievable experience that was!! I can see from having read through this thread that other guys have also had the pleasure of meeting this girl. I have been thinking of my next trip to Germany ever since LOL. I am going there next week and, based on whom I see is on the Babylon website, will definitely make it back there: very nice looking girls, especially the black girls, even though there are just a few. I have been checking the website for a few weeks now, ever since I booked my trip, but Precieuse no longer appears on it. I realize of course that girls may not stay at one club (or in this business, for that matter) for a long time. Nevertheless, I am taking a chance in asking if anyone knows if Precieuse has perhaps moved to another FKK.
Can't wait to be in Germany and looking forward to contributing to this fantastic site.
[QUOTE=OnTheRun;1992134]Boy,
Do I wish I had discovered this website before today! I didn't even know FKK clubs existed until 2 years ago on my last trip to Germany, even though I had been going to Germany for work regularly for many years. I was just googling for some nightlife and ended up making some great discoveries.
I went to this sauna club called Babylon in Elsdorf and met a girl called Precieuse. What an unbelievable experience that was!! I can see from having read through this thread that other guys have also had the pleasure of meeting this girl. I have been thinking of my next trip to Germany ever since LOL. I am going there next week and, based on whom I see is on the Babylon website, will definitely make it back there: very nice looking girls, especially the black girls, even though there are just a few. I have been checking the website for a few weeks now, ever since I booked my trip, but Precieuse no longer appears on it. I realize of course that girls may not stay at one club (or in this business, for that matter) for a long time. Nevertheless, I am taking a chance in asking if anyone knows if Precieuse has perhaps moved to another FKK.
Can't wait to be in Germany and looking forward to contributing to this fantastic site.[/QUOTE]I don't know Precieuse but it is true that I am meeting more and more girls moving around different FKK, they try 3 days in this club after try another one, some go to Dublin or London to do escort. It seems to be a difficult start, for a significant number of girls that seem to explain this kind of instability.
Welcome to tthe ISG forum On the Run! Hope to see more reports from your hand!
Not my taste in looks, but Precieuse is indeed one of the top service girls in Babylon. Works there already for a long time, but currently not. Enough good alternatives though in Babylon.
Last visit for me for this weekend trip (see Acapulco report). I am staying in Bergheim so had a quick look at the FKK collection map on google and was pleasantly surprised to discover that FKK Babylon was literally a few miles away. I was tired after Acapulco but, as I am going home tomorrow morning, it would have been rude not to pay a quick visit!
I noticed instantly that it wasn't the main robe setup of other places I've been to. Just towels. I was a bit uneasy at this but once changed it was relatively OK. I made my way to the quieter part of the lounge where the Dortmund game was showing on TV.
The good thing about Babylon is that there is a line up and schedule on the website so you can see who is going to be there (and reference afterwards! I didn't think the standard was up to the level of places like GT / LR or Acca if I'm honest. But still enough to get my attention. Particular note was Aylin who sat opposite me for a while. She wouldn't normally be my type, a little older and dark skinned, but there was something about her which I kept getting drawn to. Anyway, she seemed to be with another client so nothing happening there for me.
Then, I was approached by Antonia. I should preface this by saying that one of the things I've notice in my limited time in FKK clubs is that some guys (presumably regulars) seem to be familiar to girls and seem to get girls draping themselves over them, kissing them, generally giving them time and I don't seem to have gotten this so far. I've always put it down to not being seen as a regular. Can anyone relate to this?
Anyway, Antonia came over and instantly sat on my lap. It's the kind of approach that I have been wanting and, although I wouldn't have approached her in other circumstances as I wouldn't say she was the type of girl I would go for, she got my attention. It was a pretty brash approach, she said she was horny and asked if I liked 69. I looked at her and she started DFK'ing me in the lounge and reached under my towel and started tugging me gently. There was no question of what was going to happen after that. In fact it's probably best that I'm not approached like this more regularly as I just can't make rational decisions in these circumstances!
We went to the room where she performed a great BBBJ and lots of DFK'ing (which is also something I've been trying to find for a while). I then had my first CIM experience and it was very pleasant but not something I would repeat if I'm honest. We rested for a bit and she got me hard again for another go. She had an amazing body and although slightly skinnier than I really like, it was her attitude and dirtiness that really got me going. She knew what she wanted and just told me what to do and I duly obliged.
After an hour we were done and I was really tired so made my way back to the hotel where I'm writing this up before heading to bet for a long trip back to Amsterdam tomorrow to fly home.
Thanks for your report as a Babylon newbee.
Optics are not the key asset in Babylon (and funny you mention Aylin, see is really. Uh. A girl I would not go with even when I got paid Euro 500. But if you want RTC level of service, she might be your choice).
But the experience you had with Antonia is kind of the norm overthere and the real (only?) asset of this club. Girls like Karla, Violetta, Aranca, Jeannette, Monica, Alice, etc also combine decent good looks with very good service outside or inside a room!
[QUOTE=Maxime;1995816]Thanks for your report as a Babylon newbee.
Optics are not the key asset in Babylon (and funny you mention Aylin, see is really. Uh. A girl I would not go with even when I got paid Euro 500. But if you want RTC level of service, she might be your choice).
But the experience you had with Antonia is kind of the norm overthere and the real (only?) asset of this club. Girls like Karla, Violetta, Aranca, Jeannette, Monica, Alice, etc also combine decent good looks with very good service outside or inside a room![/QUOTE]I agree that some of the girls in this club are not in the top rank looks wise but is it really that much different in other clubs? I also visit Artemis quite regularly and to me it has always been the case that there was a very mixed selection available. This club is smaller but not overly so and the vast majority of the girls do not hassle you constantly as is very much the case in other clubs. Hence you can take your time in making a selection and to me the level of service is extremely high. I go to Babylon for the African girls and the ones I have been with have been excellent all round, E. G, Naomi and Cherry.
I arrived at Babylon at around 18:00 on a Friday about 2 weeks ago. The place was very busy; lots of guys at the bar, in the lounge area (with or without a girl by their side). Many girls and a good energy in the place. As I have a soft spot for African girls, which is why I went to Babylon in the first place, I immediately took note of 5 in the bar or lounge area when I walked in. I wanted to wait a while longer to see if any others would come around before making a choice. The few minutes I waited were just long enough for some other guy to ask Naomi, whom I recognized from the website, to go to a room. Luckily for me she was only gone for about 30 minutes as I soon realized she was indeed the one I wanted to pick.
We made eye contact as soon as she reappeared in the bar area a half-hour or so later. She came to the stool I was sitting at, straddled my leg and, after barely a "Hello," and "how are you", began LFK. She suggested we move to one of the sofas in the lounge area where, without another word being said, we got into some very intense DFK, her hand reaching under my towel and then exposing me for the whole room to see. She asked if I wanted to go at it right there or go upstairs; I said upstairs. She asked if I preferred a private room or the cinema room where we would not be alone. I kind of liked the public exposure we had in the lounge so said "why not" to the cinema room. We went upstairs, chose one of the large beds and within seconds began what was an hour and a half of DFK, DATY, BBBJ, 69 and FS, all with what I would describe as very intense engagement on her part. Having a few people in the room (were they watching us or the movie, I am not really sure) added to the fun. All in all a 10/10 experience for me.
A few visits in Babylon, mostly with an Italian friend. He prefers weekdays. Otherwise I prefer Friday / Saturday because weekdays are too boring for me most of the time. Regularly I profit from birthday invitations of regulars, then it's only 40 Euro entry. 60 E is way too much IMHO.
During weekdays it is quite empty in the club, the worst was a Tuesday not so long ago with 15 girls and maybe 10 to 15 clients during the whole stay (1 pm till 10 pm). Most of the girls were completely bored and grumpy. They disappeared for hours playing at the machines, hiding in the dressing room or playing with their handy in the kino. Impossible to get horny like that. During weekends and certainly at birthday parties, the club is more lively and there's a better atmosphere but still lacking something most of the time.
Biggest down point since several months: the whirlpool is out of function. There should be one in the garden upcoming summer. Let's say how that turns out.
Another down point: the sauna (Finnish) is not hot enough at all.
A point where the club should work on: there's not enough space to eat in peace. Very annoying with some regulars occupying the only table most of the time, smoking above your plate of fish or pasta, very disturbing.
Biggest plus since several months: extra toilets on the ground-floor, a relief to not have to go to the rather rubbish old one behind the machines where you had to disturb machine playing girls. That's a big +.
Another plus point: the food has increased in quality, although they should think about the waiting time when it is rather busy (busy means in Babylon, 35 girls and 50 guests). Then you have to wait too long to get your ordered food.
A point where the club should work on: try to attract more variation in girls, the line-up is very similar at all time, some black girls and for the rest Rumanian's with the odd Polish or German girl sometimes. A lot of girls give the club a try (it is a ladies-carousel in NRW anyway) but leave because there is no business on several days. Real talent or good looking girls with skills depart very fast most of the time.
Violetta: Romanian, blond longish hair, A-cups. She speaks English fluently, seen her before in Planet Eden. Funny and intelligent girl, no clockwatcher. Service is OK but nothing spectacular. DFK is good to very good. BJ average, Fucking as well. She lacks competence but she compensates with sweetness and so on. For guys which like to hold hands and be fooled into long sessions: be her guest. Unlikely to repeat with her. Service: 6/10.
Klara: Romanian, brown longish hair, see-cups. She returned after a long absence, it didn't improve her performance though to take a long break. Service is very average, she does everything but without conviction. No repeat planned whatsoever. Service: 4/10.
Karla: Romanian, blond semi long hair, be / see-cups, seen her before in Planet Eden. Nice girl with decent service but no top performer. DFK good. BJ good to very good. Fucking average. Possible repeat. Service: 6/10.
Aranca: Polish, blond longish hair, A / be-cups, she came back after long absence. Intriguing girls with border less service unfortunately. I stopped the session once it became too intimate for my taste. She's heavily booked most of the time. No restrictions-girl. For those which like it. Service only based on DFK and BJ: 7/10.
Naomi Nigerian, black longish hair, be / see-cups. Crazy girl with border less service unfortunately. 1 session, never again for me.
Star: South-Africa she told, but let's say Nigeria or so, whatever. Black girl, A-cups. Poor service below standard. DFK barely acceptable. BJ without skill, Fucking reasonably OK. No repeat. Service: 3/10.
Jeanette: German, semi-long black hair, be-cups (silicone). She only works a few days a week normally. DFK good to very good. BJ good, Fucking decent but she lacks endurance and power. She's very often booked by the locals. Possible repeat, service: 7/10.
Bella: Romanian, longish black hair, seen her before in fkkWorld. Rather poor service, DFK, BJ, fucking, it's all there but not great or with conviction. For [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-fanclub perfectly shaped. Probably no repeat. Service: 5/10.
Mara: Romanian, longish brown red hair, the-cups. She used to work in Belgium. Service is OK but nothing great. DFK good to very good. BJ too much teeth, sort of a greenhorn. Fucking nothing special since she lacks rhythm. Unlikely to repeat although we get along fine. Service: 5/10.
Rather poor line-up the last months, nothing spectacular regarding looks or service wunders. I won't visit Babylon often the upcoming months unless my Italian companion convinces me again. Way better alternatives around for a cheaper price setting or way more girls / wellness / optick babes in other clubs for the same price. Babylon is losing a lot of clients, I see more and more of them in clubs like Golden Time / Acapulco Gold, Living Room and others. I understand and that's a pity. The management should think about what they (and their girls, or a part of them) are doing wrong.
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2002692]
Another down point: the sauna (Finnish) is not hot enough at all.[/QUOTE]I was there three weeks ago. The sauna to the left was not hot enough. But the sauna to the right was perfect, I guess 65-70 degrees celsius.
T.
SpirmBirds, good reports. I think the generalized remarks about selective clubs being high services is overblown, although Babylon is one of the better I suspect, and I see that your reports are more critical than most. I can't imagine what a 10 service would be. Is there a 10?
It is true that GT has been pulling talent from Babylon, perhaps the short lived ones you refer to. One of the clubs on the list to try out.
Thanks for the appreciation. Off course there are 10's in a few clubs, but not too many. People which have only sessions like a 9 or 10 don't know which girls are 10's IMHO. Those girls are rare.
Regarding your remark towards GT pulling talent? Off course not! GT is to my knowledge one of the only clubs which can be selective regarding letting girls enter or not. Every day, and I'm quite sure that it is quite close to the truth, girls want to enter GT and go there to ask if they can work there. A lot of them are refused for several reasons. They are also one of the few clubs which also refuse male visitors (during my last visit, I noticed how 5 guys were refused). They are selective in both ways. Real talent goes away from clubs like Babylon for obvious reasons (not enough visitors on several days pro week, too many AO-providers (you can not compete with that, no matter how excellent the girl is), too elevated entry-price for both girls / male visitors and so on. So the people which are insinuating that GT or any other club would "pull" talent away from clubs like Babylon need a reality-check. The girls which are smart enough / care for their health / have enough freedom to go where they want simply leave Babylon and try their luck elsewhere. For instance GT, but I've seen a lot of ex-Babylongirls in a lot of other clubs like Dolce Vita / Sixsens / Samya / LivingRoom / YinYang / Freude39 and so on. So those "talent pulling" rumors are simply bollocks. Almost no clients on several days means not "enough" money for good girls which can / would / should earn a bit more. Logical consequence: change clubs. Some end up in GT, good for them. Over there you can make a living in a pretty decent way compared to clubs like Babylon. Simply reality!
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2003376]too many AO-providers[/QUOTE]In Babylon? Did you ask or did they offer? That place is not an RTC so I'd expect it to be uncommon, only offered to regulars.
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2003376]Real talent goes away from clubs like Babylon for obvious reasons (not enough visitors on several days pro week, too many AO-providers[/QUOTE]Interesting. I have visted Babylon many times and never been offered AO (I haven't asked for it). But I have met quite a few girl in Babylon who did not even have CIM on their meny. I have not (so far) seen Babylon as an AO-club. How have you come to your conclusion that AO is so wide spread in Babylon?
T.
Spirmbirds, pulling isn't a precise way to put it, but you are right, girls try out different clubs. I have been noticing girls previously worked Babylon. Girls do move around at the NRW, and GT is selective when it comes to who can work there which is quite well know by many. Also, the German requirement which doesn't make whole lot of sense as girls say there are plenty of Dutch, French, and Belgian clientel there. Not sure if it's more of a traditional thing.
At Tjohoo: if you read my report you might have noticed that I refused inner course with a few girls. The reason is quite obvious, the reason why they are booked heavily as well. You might be surprised how many girls offer it (even without extra pricing). Not so long ago, there was even public AO performed in the bar zone, it's not a big secret (certainly amongst a lot of regulars). A large number of visitors are frequent, and some simply exclusive well known AO-fans. For some of them it's even more simple: they don't go with a girl if she doesn't provide their doubtful "preference". If you frequented Babylon regularly you probably also noticed that 3 ex-Freude39 girls were active in Babylon a few months ago, they have no other option than continue their RTC-service and it became more and more common in Babylon, how do you think the other girls will react if they see that their "former" clients prefer those girls over them?? Another extra reason is the fact that the club is rather empty with visitors on several (week-) days, the girls have to try to bind the few clients to them, what's more inviting than offering. It's not so complicated if you think 2 seconds about it. Some will off course say it is not such a problem, well they are mistaken or just hidden fans probably. Everyone who clubs regularly and knows some people can judge for themselves if they open their eyes and ears.
At Pussylicker: yes, I think it's fair to say that the door policy in GT is selective, certainly regarding the girls. The pick certain girls and a lot of them are refused or told to try later again. The "German knowledge" issue is simple, a girl from let's say Romania / Bulgaria or somewhere from that reason which speaks German decently will probably have better chances. It will mean that the girl has been in the clubs for quite a while, has experience and is probably not "shoe salesman-dependent". GT is a club with almost no "pimps" hanging around, an example for a lot of clubs! In other clubs it's plain simple most of the time, no matter what kind of girl that comes to the club to demand entrance will probably get in, or at least a large percentage. The reason is simple: most clubs need new girls / any girl because they simply don't have so many (like Babylon). They will 80% or more enter their club, at GT it's probably the other way around, maybe 25% will be allowed. And that's simply good door policy if you see how successful they are I guess. Just look at the presence list of Babylon: Sunday / Monday only 15 or 20 girls there and on Thursday / Friday the double amount. Why? Simple economics: they don't make enough money because there are not enough clients, so the 15/20 girls will battle for the few clients, and what's the most powerful weapon? Yep, offering AO. Simple logic and rather unfortunately more and more often experienced myself. And to be clear about it: I did not consume.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2003445]Spirmbirds, pulling isn't a precise way to put it, but you are right, girls try out different clubs. I have been noticing girls previously worked Babylon. Girls do move around at the NRW, and GT is selective when it comes to who can work there which is quite well know by many. Also, the German requirement which doesn't make whole lot of sense as girls say there are plenty of Dutch, French, and Belgian clientel there. Not sure if it's more of a traditional thing.[/QUOTE]I have visited Babylon a few times since the middle of last year. I am very fond of African girls and can say that this club is the best currently in this respects. I have had sessions with four of the current ones, Naomi, Cherry (currently not there but expected to return), Lilly and Iman. The service of all of them was excellent and Naomi among the best I have had in a very long 'career'. I have, unlike what has been written on this board, never experienced any attempt to bounce me into services I did not want (after agreed to go with a girl) or offered uncovered sex. I have, however, formed the view that Star is not a good option. The European girls, as far as I can fairly tell, are more of a mixed bag. I did have a session with Elli on my last visit which was above average.
In my view, girls come and go from all clubs. Moreover, looks and sex appeal is in the eyes of the beholder and I do not see how you can say that this club has a very weak line up. Most certainly you can relax without constant pestering for sessions by girls as in other places. It is a bit out of the way and that may affect the number of punters but this should encourage the girls to line up regulars and the best ones do this in my view.
DavidFuk, I will look into Babylon before having any opinions on the place. My point was that there are girls that came form Babylon to GT, like Kitty for example. Her service is great, and looks great. I will have to see if it's one of those minor occurances. A small club can get great girls even if short stay, and typically, they will move on to other places if they got potential.
SpermBirds, I dunno about the German language requirement due to those reasons, they have a sister club LR, which is looser with more Germans in attendance. One theory I had was they bring in experienced girls, but it doesn't hold up either. I can think of several girls that were 18-19 when I met them at GT. GT isn't the only club where Ro, Bul that has worked elsewhere that shows up. I met couple Poles, Germans, 19. There has been Ro 19-20 I've met.
But yes, if they speak German, they have possibly worked in Aus, Swiss, or in De. I've known Ro that pick up German quicker than others. I met Ro that only speak De and hardly speak a lick of English.
If the Romy speak German at a young age, there is a likelihood that she worked in some remote club with mainly German speaking locals, and less international clients.
Ok, some clubs like Mondial or Samya have the chances of less experienced younger than avg girls, but not all newbie type girls are a like. I met a fantastic 19 yrs Ro service provider in GT, Vien.
A reason for them to be selective is limited spacing (can't have too many girls on the floor compared to a mega clubs as number of rooms aren't all that plenty and the place can get cramped, can't handle a huge crowd especially non-summer months), and they got enough girls continuously working there for limited in take on rotation. If there is a high turn-over, they will be taking in more girls, thus other clubs have more of an open door to any girl that signs up. Like for example, VV has free entry for new girls.
Really, GT is a club that raises questions with their entry policy, but inconsistant.
Barbie at GT, started at Finca, then Bab, Samya for few days and GT. Kity and Natalia worked at Bab, before GT.
Spermbirds knows quite well how work Bab, so, quite pretty girls prefer to leave to safer places. Average look have to take risks.
Bab worth for some black girls.
I discover the Babylon three years ago and I think it is a good place for fun and find nice ladies.
Here is my best of girls I met since some months or last year. And the others. I m going to try write regularly. This is my personal chart.
Alice. I practice this nice girl since. Longtime. Every time I spend sex moment with her is a top. Girl-friendly and naughty. CIM possible. Nothing more to say. She proposes to me every time anal sex. A master-choice. Never regret to pay so good service.
Denisa. I like her engagement. Very good lady for tender sex and lovingly attitude, but also for porno scene. My favorite. CIM possible and. Made. New tattoo very original. We told me her little cousin Abby just stayed some weeks in the club. Sex tradition in the family?
Jamila. Wonderful young woman, Morocco-styled, and very pleasant sexual service, unhappily, she stays only some several days or weeks last year. I remember her! And I cannot forget it!
Arança. Tall blonde polish lady. I think she gives one of the best service of the club. Not only a porno star, she is very cuddling if you want. This girl loves sex and give proofs.
Dolli. She was my favorite during 2016. Nice young woman very dynamic in room and who shows real and right sex-enjoy. In holidays?
Ewa. One of the best girl of the club actually. Very enthusiastic to do sex. I like her feeling to enjoy her partner.
Mara. A new one I tasted some weeks ago. Test successful. Slim body, charming face and very good engagement in sex and she enjoys to do it very horny. CIM possible and well done. She told me she wanted to stop! No Mara, you have to stay.
Elli. A Romanian young lady why. O, thin and quiet but naughty, who likes active sex and very open for exhibitions on sofa. In room, a real and delicious nymphomaniac. CIM and anal games possible and well done. Often in holidays I think and I hope her come-back, I'm hot!
Karla. I had no orgasm with my teeny lady since too longtime. I wish to fuck her every time I see her. I like her slim body with an amazing face and big eyes sex-flashed! Sex time I come I choose Karla.
Roberta. A good professional. Never disappointing. And no special flash after several sessions. I can fuck her one time in three months, not more.
Bella. New one. A cute brunette who can improve her service and so good potential. Very nice face and wonderful body. For first-class lady lover. I will book her. To see and hope if she's more Delicious to fuck.
Salina. A curious young and pretty brunette from Hungary who has disappeared. I booked her only one time and it was great. Really. It is a pity she's gone away.
Tanjia. Disappointing. Mischievous, nice, kidding girl, but a little bit too much into feigning in room. She plays not very good her role of partner. I felt abused when I paid her. Not so bds and not so good.
Antonia. Low service. Very active in the sitting-room and exhibitionist to make pressure on the clients. I was seduced. But in sex action, too much bad.
Cosmina. She does minima. No much fingers, no 69, no CIM, and so on. No enjoy for the job and lazy and hypocrit in room. Rogue experience. Not to get swindled by social time on sofa when she smiles and speaks. I felt abused when I paid her.
Michelle. I like blonde lady with gorgeous body. But Michelle has a little bit disappointed me. Her service is very professional, no enjoy, no nearby attitude. No imagination. She does like a robot.
Daria. Good choice with Daria. 19 year old And already a great experience. GFE and PSE. She wants to satisfy her partner. I will come back.
Thanks for the review Dorfman, recognize most of your experiences with the Babylon girls.
A real pity Abby is not there anymore, she was a real talent, runs in the family!
Whn you go next time, try also Violetta, Victoria, Jeanette. Etc.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2011569]Whn you go next time, try also Violetta, Victoria, Jeanette. Etc.[/QUOTE]Yes Violetta is a gem.
Do anyone have any experience with Jenny (HU). We watched Godfather III on TV in the basement together. It was late in the evening, she made some attempts to make go to a room, but I was to tired. She looked very sweet and little quiet.
T.
[QUOTE=Tjohoo;2011623]Yes Violetta is a gem.
Do anyone have any experience with Jenny (HU). We watched Godfather III on TV in the basement together. It was late in the evening, she made some attempts to make go to a room, but I was to tired. She looked very sweet and little quiet.
T.[/QUOTE]Jenny is indeed very sweet girl, 18 years, but not very "willing" to say the least. Was with her 1 time, but all was very distant, avoiding, etc. Might improve somewhat over time, but other sub-20 year olds ion Babylon are better IMHO.
Babylon was one of my favorite clubs during my tour in 2016 especially for the magneficent black beauties. Cherie, Naomi and Lilly were all gorgeous both for body and service. Are they still working or moved to another club?
[QUOTE=Shinai;2012997] Cherie, Naomi and Lilly were all gorgeous both for body and service. Are they still working or moved to another club?[/QUOTE]This club has a top homepage with pictures for almost all girls and even an attendance list scheduled two weeks in advance. So you can see that Naomi works this week.
Babylon is a smaller club with an informal atmosphere. Many locals and regulars at this club. Service level should be quite high there but I wasn't so impressed with the line up most out of my spec. It's a good stop over on way to Golden Time.
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2003459]At Tjohoo: if you read my report you might have noticed that I refused inner course with a few girls. The reason is quite obvious, the reason why they are booked heavily as well. You might be surprised how many girls offer it (even without extra pricing). Not so long ago, there was even public AO performed in the bar zone, it's not a big secret (certainly amongst a lot of regulars). A large number of visitors are frequent, and some simply exclusive well known AO-fans. For some of them it's even more simple: they don't go with a girl if she doesn't provide their doubtful "preference". If you frequented Babylon regularly you probably also noticed that 3 ex-Freude39 girls were active in Babylon a few months ago, they have no other option than continue their RTC-service and it became more and more common in Babylon, how do you think the other girls will react if they see that their "former" clients prefer those girls over them?? Another extra reason is the fact that the club is rather empty with visitors on several (week-) days, the girls have to try to bind the few clients to them, what's more inviting than offering. It's not so complicated if you think 2 seconds about it. Some will off course say it is not such a problem, well they are mistaken or just hidden fans probably. Everyone who clubs regularly and knows some people can judge for themselves if they open their eyes and ears..[/QUOTE]Just my humble 2 cents.
AO has always been around however it should be known that it may be a big part of why Germany is changing law July 1st. There are in fact a number of women at Babylon who refuse to do AO even if offered more money. I witnessed an exchange from close distance one day between one of the girls and a well known customer who unsuccessfully tried to negotiate for AO he went as high as 400 e. The girls who do allow AO are often marked women by the women who don't do it. In fact if a woman who does not allow AO knows you've been with a woman who does AO she may refuse you. The women quickly share info and know which guests demand AO. I don't know about you but doing a GFE session with any woman that does AO is a huge turn off and health risk.
Babylon has a high turn over mainly for new girls but some of the well known favorites have also left, as mentioned there are 4-5 now at GT. The reason as always is money, or they just don't go along with the demand for AO. I've heard several reasons directly from women who left. Then again girls moving from club to club is nothing new. Living Room for example lost many of their regular girls recently. Women communicate and share info just like the men, when a club is hot the women share that info.
As far as GT being selective "They can" because they've been on top for at least a decade. Men and women are refused all the time, if you don't know this you just have not spent enough time at the front door. Women are refused for a few reasons, not just lack of German skill. Management as you may have noticed is very detail oriented and they have strict rules. They don't want a talent pool that consists of one country such as Romania, they want diversity. With that being said if a woman is really attractive she'll get hired even without German language skills. Proof is in speaking with some of the new women where it becomes obvious they don't speak German. Those who don't fit their criteria are given a business card to their sister club Living Room (LR). LR on the other hand has lower standards for both customers and women. Note the over abundance of RO women working at LR. Most of the less attractive or older women at GT have been working their for years.
I used to think GT refused guests who were Turkish looking which was common however with time I noticed even Caucasians get refused. Note the video cameras at the entrance which were upgraded not too long ago, these cameras allow HD color still images to be taken of guests as they stand in front of the entrance. This is also done by the way at Babylon. Did anyone notice the addition of security glass double doors at Babylon? As you enter Babylon there's a secure area where the desk person can see thru the glass area who enters but can block their entry. Babylon has the ability to make still photos, post them for entry staff and refuse entry. This is done all the time at GT. Tattoos, thug wear, hats or if you look menacing you may not get in. Think a nice car will get you in, think again if you don't look the part and fit in you'll be refused entry. While you'll have a hard time getting staff to admit to a rule for admittance, here's what it comes down to "If someone makes guests feel uncomfortable their not welcome here". It's a good rule because they don't want the reputation of unruly or crude guests which can be found at some of the more shady clubs.
You can't play the dumbshit at GT like the other big clubs such as Oase, Sharks and World refusing to wear a robe, it's mandatory inside the dining tent and club structure. GT is about locals NOT tourists as some might think, locals can also be guests from NL after all the border is minutes away.
Go there enough and you'll know who the regulars are. Some women welcome the rules at GT because they don't want to deal with shady customers or men who don't treat them with disrespect.
Great improvement for lounge, downstairs, good foods, good drinks, friendly staff women. Some quite pretty girls: Sylvia claiming to be Hungarian, Sofia despite silicon, Karla, a slim long chestnut hair, and a real candy for 2 hours. I will bring her Parisian gift she asked, less than 5€ for a so sweet and sensitive girl. A real pleasure.
Good visit even Sylvia and sweet candy are limited for vagina.
3 black girls.
Good you revisited, has been a while, since the improvements are almost 9 months ago.
Next improvements concerns the garden: Sauna, whirlpool and swimming pool are in the making, ready end of May. Then also the large parking will be renovated.
Sylvia (combi of HU and RO) and Karla (RO) are real gems in the room. Sofia has nice face, but lacks performance in the room (very distant, rough, not feminine).
[QUOTE=Maxime;2015166]Good you revisited, has been a while, since the improvements are almost 9 months ago.
Next improvements concerns the garden: Sauna, whirlpool and swimming pool are in the making, ready end of May. Then also the large parking will be renovated.
Sylvia (combi of HU and RO) and Karla (RO) are real gems in the room. Sofia has nice face, but lacks performance in the room (very distant, rough, not feminine).[/QUOTE]I didn't visit since October 2014 for Barbie now at GT. Alexa now blond, took weight since 2013.
Improved place for lounge and downstairs, and a great GFE. As promised, to repeat as soon I can, with gift.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2015181]Alexa now blond, took weight since 2013.[/QUOTE]Alexa has been blonde for quite some time already. With her added weight, she now looks more like a curvy woman, no longer a teenager. Face also more womanly now, but just as attractive. Still, her BJ is as good as ever, and GFE is perfect.
I am surprised that there are almost no reports about her. Maybe it is because few tourists get to try her as she is often heavily booked in advance.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2020585]Alexa has been blonde for quite some time already. With her added weight, she now looks more like a curvy woman, no longer a teenager. Face also more womanly now, but just as attractive. Still, her BJ is as good as ever, and GFE is perfect.
I am surprised that there are almost no reports about her. Maybe it is because few tourists get to try her as she is often heavily booked in advance.[/QUOTE]Not full busy on my visit on a Friday. I found a more GFE potential than her who is a bit limited for vagina, at least in 2013.
Babylon are refreshinly different from many other clubs. I guess the many local regulars and the clubs situation far away from big towns and in the middle of nowhere (Elsdorf) are two reasons to that. The lineup are never spectacular regarding optics, but the service I have experienced has many times been really good.
Om my visit two weeks the party atmosphere was high. A bunch of the men danced around in the club with some girls in a train-formation to german ompa ompa music. Not for me, but they looked happy!
Later in the evening a birthday party had a BJ contest in the bar. 4 men got blown by a bunch of beautiful girls while the rest of the crowd of men and women was cheering and yelling. I don't know what acievment led to victory and who won, but the party mood was very high.
The evening was warm and some couples had open sex in the garden. Later there was som indoor fire work and some people painted each other red with spray cans. Fun party evening, even for guys like me who was sober and just looking.
I had two really good sessions. A repeat with the sweet Violetta, and a new experience with Jenny from Hungary. She was fun and very friendly.
T.
[QUOTE=Dorfman;2010796]Bella. New one. A cute brunette who can improve her service and so good potential. Very nice face and wonderful body. For first-class lady lover. I will book her. To see and hope if she's more Delicious to fuck.[/QUOTE]I saw Bella tonight. It is the same Bella as the one I tried in World 2 years ago! If interested, see my report #9794 in the World thread on 11th April 2015. As I reported then, her service was mediocre, and I thought then that perhaps it might improve. I tried her again in 2016 and it was actually worse! So I think you are going to have to wait a very long time (if ever) for your more delicious fuck, as I think her potential had already hit its ceiling 2 years ago.
I am not sure how she gets customers as she sat in a dark corner at Babylon, just as she invariable sat at that dark corner in World which is now the new kino.
I paid a short visit to Babylon this evening to complete my usual 3 after-work FKK visits around Cologne this week. The mood in Babylon was more lively than that in Living Room and Bernd's in the nights before. And I enjoyed having showers where I could control the temperature well. I almost got scalded a few times during my showers at Living Room last night, as they have learnt from World how to modify their showers such that you either get scalding hot water or icy cold water!
I tried out Karla for the first time. Had a fun time with her as she was really enthusiastic and funny (but not as fun as the time I had with Abi at Living Room last night).
Then I managed to get hold of Violetta. She fully lived up to the favourable reports in this forum. She was very interesting to talk to as she spoke fluent American (just like Xenia's of Bernd's). Her shape was my ideal. Slim body, small perky tits and ass, and cute face. Perfect GFE and service. Pity I had only one hour to spare. I could have spent many hours with her.
I'm wondering if it's Violetta who used to work at Mondial way back. Is she Ro? Doesn't look so much like her according to the pic as she was very slim back in the day, and not so much hip and ass.
It does say she speak Spanish? LOL. Violetta from Mondial spoke English very well, and was an intelligent girl. I would be very happy if it was her.
Thinking of trying this club out since Kitty, GT (Angel, Bab) came from this club.
[URL]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-aachen-koeln/626.php[/URL]
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2028929]I'm wondering if it's Violetta who used to work at Mondial way back. Is she Ro? Doesn't look so much like her according to the pic as she was very slim back in the day, and not so much hip and ass.
It does say she speak Spanish? LOL. Violetta from Mondial spoke English very well, and was an intelligent girl. I would be very happy if it was her.
Thinking of trying this club out since Kitty, GT (Angel, Bab) came from this club.
[URL]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-aachen-koeln/626.php[/URL][/QUOTE]Definitely not the same girl.
First off thanks to Tank Tank for his reviews. It steered me to Bernd's last night, Friday, and now I just left Babylon. Got there by train to Bergdor8 f then 963 bus, getting off at Gut Neuendorf. All very easy. The bus counts down the next 5 spots on a video display.
Wanted to go to Babylon for true FKK nudity. Its real. Probably 25-30 girls, about five caught my eye as young, thin, natural and pretty enough.
Bella came and sat down next to me. When I caught her name I kind of froze her out for awhile because of a recent bad review. But she had a nice smile and a spark, so I figured I didn't really have much to lose giving her a try. I asked if she'd give me a blowjob on the couch, as I'd seen such already. She said maybe, then started playing under the towel and then a public couch blowjob alla Bernds. Off to the room, DFK, BBBJ, nice kissing, fucking, 69 what a beautiful view of a tight ass and twat. Allover sweet GFE. So much for relying on reviews as Gospel.
There were a couple of girls sitting in the corner seeming unopened to approach. One extremely thin, but uninviting face. The other looked very Latino. Definitely a possible for me, I tried to snag a conversation when she got up to get a drink, she said two words and went back to smoking and talking to her girlfriends in the corner.
Next I snagged Violetta, who I had seen earlier only to have her disappear for too long. Wha a GFE! Blonde, thin, sweet innocent face. Totally fluent in English having lived in London. I couldn't believe this sweetheart was a WG. Great BBBJ no teeth, GFE all the way. Lots of good talk. This girl is intelligent. Nothing better than that combination of beauty and intelligence.
So Babylon gets a thumbs up from me, at least on a Saturday.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2028929]I'm wondering if it's Violetta who used to work at Mondial way back. Is she Ro? Doesn't look so much like her according to the pic as she was very slim back in the day, and not so much hip and ass.
It does say she speak Spanish? LOL. Violetta from Mondial spoke English very well, and was an intelligent girl. I would be very happy if it was her.
Thinking of trying this club out since Kitty, GT (Angel, Bab) came from this club.
[URL]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-aachen-koeln/626.php[/URL][/QUOTE]Many Violetta in FKK land, many Mady, many Emma. At Bab, very white skin and curvy ass. A bit limited vagina, but kindness and sweetness of Romanian girls.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;2028950]Definitely not the same girl.[/QUOTE]Indeed not the same. Violeta is Rumanian for sure, speaks perfectly English and worked before in Planet Eden (as more girls from there she moved to Babylon a while ago).
[QUOTE=Zumboit;2029033]First off thanks to Tank Tank for his reviews. It steered me to Bernd's last night, Friday, and now I just left Babylon. Got there by train to Bergdor8 f then 963 bus, getting off at Gut Neuendorf. All very easy. The bus counts down the next 5 spots on a video display.
Wanted to go to Babylon for true FKK nudity. Its real. Probably 25-30 girls, about five caught my eye as young, thin, natural and pretty enough.
Bella came and sat down next to me. When I caught her name I kind of froze her out for awhile because of a recent bad review. But she had a nice smile and a spark, so I figured I didn't really have much to lose giving her a try. I asked if she'd give me a blowjob on the couch, as I'd seen such already. She said maybe, then started playing under the towel and then a public couch blowjob alla Bernds. Off to the room, DFK, BBBJ, nice kissing, fucking, 69 what a beautiful view of a tight ass and twat. Allover sweet GFE. So much for relying on reviews as Gospel.
There were a couple of girls sitting in the corner seeming unopened to approach. One extremely thin, but uninviting face. The other looked very Latino. Definitely a possible for me, I tried to snag a conversation when she got up to get a drink, she said two words and went back to smoking and talking to her girlfriends in the corner.
Next I snagged Violetta, who I had seen earlier only to have her disappear for too long. Wha a GFE! Blonde, thin, sweet innocent face. Totally fluent in English having lived in London. I couldn't believe this sweetheart was a WG. Great BBBJ no teeth, GFE all the way. Lots of good talk. This girl is intelligent. Nothing better than that combination of beauty and intelligence.
So Babylon gets a thumbs up from me, at least on a Saturday.[/QUOTE]Just came in to say your Bella used to work in World under the same name. Wasn't aware of negative reviews, I believe she was fairly positively reviewed in World (and I had a decent session with her there as well).
Babylon was a good new club for me with gorgeous black beauties. Cherie Lily and Naomi were both excellent in body and service. But I could not see Lily and Cherie on the clubs planner for quite a long time. Does anybody know they completely left the club on holiday or on stage at another club?
Does anyone know if the Jacuzzi is working again?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Shinai;2029688]Babylon was a good new club for me with gorgeous black beauties. Cherie Lily and Naomi were both excellent in body and service. But I could not see Lily and Cherie on the clubs planner for quite a long time. Does anybody know they completely left the club on holiday or on stage at another club?[/QUOTE]I totally agree re these three ladies. I have visited twice this year so far and Naomi is my first choice. Absolutely excellent all round. The other two were not present on either occasion so either they are on a long break or have moved on. On my second visit I also had a session with Kelly who has arrived relatively recently. Excellent all round as well.
[QUOTE=TorrentChief;2029794]Does anyone know if the Jacuzzi is working again?
Thanks![/QUOTE]On 24 March, no more jacuzzi.
[QUOTE=Zumboit;2029033]
There were a couple of girls sitting in the corner seeming unopened to approach. One extremely thin, but uninviting face. The other looked very Latino. Definitely a possible for me, I tried to snag a conversation when she got up to get a drink, she said two words and went back to smoking and talking to her girlfriends in the corner.[/QUOTE]Maybe one of them was the blonde Rebekka? She was talking with another pretty girl for most of the day today. Both of them seemed quite unwilling to talk to guys. Once when the other girl was gone (alert! Defenses down!) I tried to talk to Rebekka, but she wasn't interested at all.
Still, overall Babylon has a good atmosphere. Better on the weekends I would say. In this way it is the opposite to Living Room. LR shines during the quiet periods, but on the weekends it is chock full, the rooms require a wait, and the girls won't talk. Babylon on the other hand is boring during the weekdays and rocking on the weekends. In fact, though I have been critical in the past, I would say Babylon is undergoing a renaissance this year due to the influx of girls from the troubled Planet Eden and the building extension.
Recently I had great sessions with the stars Violetta and Naomi. Violetta is simply the smartest girl in the room; for my own perverse and doubtless ungenerous reasons I will refrain from the usual paeons of praise for her beauty and virtues such as you will find scattered through many forums and many universes; BUT I will say she certainly delivers a solid zimmering once you get to know her. And Naomi, ah Naomi, what a girl. Possibly the prettiest girl in the club, certainly the prettiest African, and a great performer too. Little surprise that like Violetta she spends most of her time in rooms and less in the bar, unlike most of the girls who are benched the majority of the time. I already screwed Naomi twice and intended to repeat many times, but her friend Angel from Ethiopia kind of spoiled it.
Let me explain. I had a great session with Naomi today and it seemed we had every type of sex that doesn't involve animals or rocket engines. Exhausted we staggered out and amazingly only 30 minutes had passed. We parted happily, but shortly afterwards Naomi's African cumpatriot Angel approached me, slender and nude, and said, "You should have longer sessions with Naomi! If you don't she will stop treating you like she was your girlfriend!" What? This was a real turnoff. Imagine you walked into a store to get a soda and the guy at the counter said, "Buddy that's fine for now but if you want to be stopping by regular-like you should plan on buying TWO sodas. " You would think he was an idiot. Experience in business shows that hamfisted sales pressure causes people to buy less not more. I might even skip the Africans for a while.
Anyway this is little stuff. Better the upselling be outside the room than inside the room like it would be in the factory clubs. In fact I admire the owner of Babylon for creating a good atmosphere where the larger clubs have failed. Atmosphere is what it is all about and what keeps the punters coming, especially that the girls are friendly when approached.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2029902]On 24 March, no more jacuzzi.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll have to cross this place off my list then.
[QUOTE=TorrentChief;2029794]Does anyone know if the Jacuzzi is working again?
Thanks![/QUOTE]As reported before it was not broken, it is just completely removed now. New one will be there in 6-8 weeks when the new garden, with swimming pool, sauna, jacuzzi, etc have been completed.
[QUOTE=WinnRoad;2029843]I totally agree re these three ladies. I have visited twice this year so far and Naomi is my first choice. Absolutely excellent all round. The other two were not present on either occasion so either they are on a long break or have moved on. On my second visit I also had a session with Kelly who has arrived relatively recently. Excellent all round as well.[/QUOTE]Another one who is excellent all round is Maria from Cuba.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2029971]Maybe one of them was the blonde Rebekka? She was talking with another pretty girl for most of the day today. Both of them seemed quite unwilling to talk to guys. Once when the other girl was gone (alert! Defenses down!) I tried to talk to Rebekka, but she wasn't interested at all[/QUOTE]No, the skinny one had long straight black hair, the other Latina looking, medium dark hair, kept a towel around her waist most of the time.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;2029255]Just came in to say your Bella used to work in World under the same name. Wasn't aware of negative reviews, I believe she was fairly positively reviewed in World (and I had a decent session with her there as well).[/QUOTE]As I said, I had a great time with Bella, but I was wary having read this, from April 27th.
"I saw Bella tonight. It is the same Bella as the one I tried in World 2 years ago! If interested, see my report #9794 in the World thread on 11th April 2015. As I reported then, her service was mediocre, and I thought then that perhaps it might improve. I tried her again in 2016 and it was actually worse! So I think you are going to have to wait a very long time (if ever) for your more delicious fuck, as I think her potential had already hit its ceiling 2 years ago.
I am not sure how she gets customers as she sat in a dark corner at Babylon, just as she invariable sat at that dark corner in World which is now the new kino."
[QUOTE=Maxime;2029993]As reported before it was not broken, it is just completely removed now. New one will be there in 6-8 weeks when the new garden, with swimming pool, sauna, jacuzzi, etc have been completed.[/QUOTE]Thank you for this update.
[QUOTE=Zumboit;2030630]As I said, I had a great time with Bella, but I was wary having read this, from April 27th.[/QUOTE]Skinny sparkly-eyed Bella. Her greatest talents are HJ and BBBJ.
And are there any arts that are more underrated than HJ and BBBJ? There are so many gradations of skill. In my ideal world girls would spend several semesters studying both, as opposed to these pleasures being repressed, mocked, or outright prohibited -- just look what the current government is doing. Who knows, perhaps some scholar will record the basics before the crackdown so that they may be rediscovered centuries hence by a people more joyful and less frightened of their own sensuality than our own civilization.
Anyway what was I saying. Yeah, Bella, total spinner, superb blowjobsmanship. Not to be missed before the deadline. Can you imagine the wild scenes in Babylon at 11 pm on June 30?
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2031752]Skinny sparkly-eyed Bella. Her greatest talents are HJ and BBBJ.
And are there any arts that are more underrated than HJ and BBBJ? There are so many gradations of skill. In my ideal world girls would spend several semesters studying both, as opposed to these pleasures being repressed, mocked, or outright prohibited -- just look what the current government is doing. Who knows, perhaps some scholar will record the basics before the crackdown so that they may be rediscovered centuries hence by a people more joyful and less frightened of their own sensuality than our own civilization.
Anyway what was I saying. Yeah, Bella, total spinner, superb blowjobsmanship. Not to be missed before the deadline. Can you imagine the wild scenes in Babylon at 11 pm on June 30?[/QUOTE]You really have some fix ideas, nobody knows what will happen the 1st of July, just some senior monger are able to tell you that some changes are already taking place right now. For the girls, to do everything with condom will be far safer which is definitively a strong positive aspect of the new law. I know a lot of guys are happy to get AO. But personally I prefer when the girls are doing this hard job with more safety.
OK, maybe I should give her another try in my next visit as she might have improved after moving to Babylon. The fact that I tried her a second time in 2016 showed how attractive I found her, and I was almost tempted to try her again 2 weeks ago. Her BBBJ was certainly excellent. The letdown for me came in the room where, in 2015 and 2016, I found that she could hardly converse in English, could not read what I would like, and smelt like a cigarette factory.
I was just commenting on her 'potential'; I have no complaints of her attitude as she was a very pleasant and honest girl with no upselling. I just could not find a connection, and for me GFE is important.
Bad to kiss a ashtray, far from fresh breathe, perfect teeth, not smoking, Madi.
Bab is not World, Eddy manage girls about services level.
Returned to Babylon after a couple of weeks. What a difference! On a Saturday evening I expected it to be totally rocking, but there were few customers and the girls were just lolling about, not willing to say much except that they were bored. I just nodded but thought: of course they are going to be bored if they won't talk or play nice! It was like there was a world of opportunity they were determined not to see. I left the club without trying a single one, it was that bad.
I think Babylon did have its spot in the sun but now it seems like the action has moved up north again. I won't be back for a long time. Why travel to the middle of nowhere and pay 60 euros entrance when you can get a better atmosphere at a 20 euro club like Aca Gold (which was very good today by the way -- I can highly recommend Amalia, RO).
Also some girls at Babylon have started explicitly saying that they don't DFK. As this has previously been considered standard at Babylon, a "high service" club, it's not a good sign. Another girl told me BBBJ would also be going away here in July. If true this would eliminate much of Babylon's raison detre.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2035585]Returned to Babylon after a couple of weeks. What a difference! On a Saturday evening[/QUOTE]Bad News! I was there some weeks ago, and the club was alive and kicking!
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2035585]Also some girls at Babylon have started explicitly saying that they don't DFK. As this has previously been considered standard at Babylon, a "high service" club, it's not a good sign.[/QUOTE]More bad news! Do you meen that girls you have sessioned with and DFK now refused to DFK? What girls did say no?
T.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2035585]Returned to Babylon after a couple of weeks. What a difference! On a Saturday evening I expected it to be totally rocking, but there were few customers and the girls were just lolling about, not willing to say much except that they were bored. I just nodded but thought: of course they are going to be bored if they won't talk or play nice! It was like there was a world of opportunity they were determined not to see. I left the club without trying a single one, it was that bad.
I think Babylon did have its spot in the sun but now it seems like the action has moved up north again. I won't be back for a long time. Why travel to the middle of nowhere and pay 60 euros entrance when you can get a better atmosphere at a 20 euro club like Aca Gold (which was very good today by the way -- I can highly recommend Amalia, RO).
Also some girls at Babylon have started explicitly saying that they don't DFK. As this has previously been considered standard at Babylon, a "high service" club, it's not a good sign. Another girl told me BBBJ would also be going away here in July. If true this would eliminate much of Babylon's raison detre.[/QUOTE]Were you at Bab Elsdorf? Or Hamburg? Can't believe Violetta refuse to kiss or BBBJ. And Alexa, queen of BBBJ. Was Eddy drunk, to let girls not taking care of clients?
Polyamorist,
I understand that BBBJ is disappearing everywhere from July 1st, at least in theory, but which will simply allow the girls to charge it as an extra as they have, for the most part, been doing for ages for CIM which can at times be €50 but is usually €25. DFK is slipping into the same extras category. Feck they'll be charging extra for a smile soon! I'll still keep going as it's still about as good as it gets for the outlay without the eleven plus hours to Bangkok and beyond which is something of a logistical issue for a mongering weekend. Happy adventures, Pedro.
Why does everyone assume that the end result of a (somewhat poorly motivated and ill conceived) legislation is a sexual practice which will still be widely available, but at exactly 50 E extra charge?
Did you guys hear from many girls in Babylon or any other clubs that they plan to provide BBBJ as if nothing has changed legally but charge 50 E extra? And how did we arrive at this 50 E for this extra? Is that the amount girls are dreaming up, or we are dreading?
Well it's going to be available without doubt. Girls will either decide to continue it or not, many already refuse which doesn't bother me as long as it's clear from the outset. For new punters it is always best to establish, without losing the moment, what is and what is not expected as part of the service. Personally I can't be bothered haggling and would rather move on rather getting into sub-clauses in the contract! It sort of ruins the illusion. If / when it's available they can use the law as an option for charging extra and it's not going to be for 99 €urocents. Some may continue to offer it as a freebie in order to close a deal but let's see. Pedro.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2035640]Why does everyone assume that the end result of a (somewhat poorly motivated and ill conceived) legislation is a sexual practice which will still be widely available, but at exactly 50 E extra charge?
Did you guys hear from many girls in Babylon or any other clubs that they plan to provide BBBJ as if nothing has changed legally but charge 50 E extra? And how did we arrive at this 50 E for this extra? Is that the amount girls are dreaming up, or we are dreading?[/QUOTE]Many girls are from Romania (poor german law understanding) and they will follow what the club manager will ask them to do, all the girls are telling me that they are very happy with the new law and that they will stop doing BJ or CIM without condom. Obviously some of them will continue in the intimity of the room to provide it case by case.
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More bad news! Do you meen that girls you have sessioned with and DFK now refused to DFK? What girls did say no?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2035617]Were you at Bab Elsdorf? Or Hamburg? Can't believe Violetta refuse to kiss or BBBJ. And Alexa, queen of BBBJ. Was Eddy drunk, to let girls not taking care of clients?[/QUOTE]Babylon Elsdorf certainly. You couldn't pay me to go to Hamburg!
I think Eddy might come down hard on the plainer girls if they declined any part of regular service, but exceptions are made for the prettier girls. As a result there is quite a lot of Princess Syndrome in the club. For example, if you ask Victoria if she does DFK she will say no. Because of that I would never go with her.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2035837]Babylon Elsdorf certainly. You couldn't pay me to go to Hamburg!
I think Eddy might come down hard on the plainer girls if they declined any part of regular service, but exceptions are made for the prettier girls. As a result there is quite a lot of Princess Syndrome in the club. For example, if you ask Victoria if she does DFK she will say no. Because of that I would never go with her.[/QUOTE]I don't know Viktoria, but usually Bab girls are real GFE. My main problem is too find a pretty one.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2035987]I don't know Viktoria, but usually Bab girls are real GFE. My main problem is too find a pretty one.[/QUOTE]Yes, most of the Bab girls are GFE and some of them are not. And if we pick a GFE babe she is not active in room and is limited in sex acts. I know actually only seven or eight ladies, maybe more, in this club who are girl-friendly with sweet and nice DFK and closeness illusion and to be a real sex partner. But I don't test the whole Babylon team!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2035617]...Was Eddy drunk, to let girls not taking care of clients?[/QUOTE]The club celebrated Eddy's birthday on Friday. He seemed to be in a forgiving mood.
I tried Laura and she is the queen of GFE. No limits for how much fun you can have with her if she likes you. I sessioned with her friends Kusmina and another tiny girl with black hair. Not bad but not too impressed either.
So, I might have been very lucky for GFE girls when I visited. Same luck than for other clubs I visit, even on first time. My 2 Bab clubs were for our first room.
For me, Bab like LR are GFE land. Bab is just not on top for beauties, even pretty Barbie, Felipa, Kity, Natalia worked at Bab before GT.
Was a few times with beautiful Viktoria (Bulgarian / Persian mix), and also some friends of mine, and DFK was always there. First time more convincing than later, but still. She is not really in to it (like some other girls) so if you explicitly ask her, she might find herself "a way out" to that service item. Maybe that is the reason she does not work in Globe (CH) anymore, happily she still has the Globe looks.
Even 18 year Jenny offers DFK in Babylon, but not very enthousiastic either, it seems clients first have to invest several Baccardis etc to increase the service level somewhat. All other girls I know are (even) more convincing in offering DFK.
Most girls will still offer BBBJ (and DFK) to their regular customers after July 1st, but we will see. At least in NRW it seems more relaxed on this subject than in the Hessen and BW clubs, where most girls seem to have found a reason to move (to Bayern, since there the customers are used to it, or to surrounding countries where BBBJ is still allowed) or an extra reason to increase the price for extras (and therefore BBBJ).
[QUOTE=Maxime;2036690]
Most girls will still offer BBBJ (and DFK) to their regular customers after July 1st, but we will see. At least in NRW it seems more relaxed on this subject than in the Hessen and BW clubs, where most girls seem to have found a reason to move (to Bayern, since there the customers are used to it, or to surrounding countries where BBBJ is still allowed) or an extra reason to increase the price for extras (and therefore BBBJ).[/QUOTE]Do you have facts and reasons for your hypothesis?
[QUOTE=Craiova;2036772]Do you have facts and reasons for your hypothesis?[/QUOTE]Why do you want a clever WG change games and business with a weekly regular client since months? Even known as a writer, I'm pretty sure my regulars will trust me like they always did when they were bullshit, and reading me to check what is the truth. 1st July won t be the end of my FKK world, nothing will change for me, but for sure no regulars names. I already started to protect them as I say to them.
I'm not surprised that many hearts have been toppled by Victoria, but I remain firm on principle: I will never go with her. Beauty is only a strength if it can be met and contained by a will of equal force; otherwise it is like a wild eel in your bloodstream, destroying all your organs, making you do crazy things. Every tragic hero has one terrible weakness, and in the case of Babylon's owner it is the love of beauty to the extent that it blinds the eyes and stops the ears and blots out all counsel.
DFK is a red line. I have even ditched girls who were good DFKers at first but half-hearted about it later, on the basis that they were not being true to the experience.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2036690]Was a few times with beautiful Viktoria (Bulgarian / Persian mix), and also some friends of mine, and DFK was always there. First time more convincing than later, but still. She is not really in to it (like some other girls) so if you explicitly ask her, she might find herself "a way out" to that service item. Maybe that is the reason she does not work in Globe (CH) anymore, happily she still has the Globe looks.
Even 18 year Jenny offers DFK in Babylon, but not very enthousiastic either, it seems clients first have to invest several Baccardis etc to increase the service level somewhat. All other girls I know are (even) more convincing in offering DFK.
Most girls will still offer BBBJ (and DFK) to their regular customers after July 1st, but we will see. At least in NRW it seems more relaxed on this subject than in the Hessen and BW clubs, where most girls seem to have found a reason to move (to Bayern, since there the customers are used to it, or to surrounding countries where BBBJ is still allowed) or an extra reason to increase the price for extras (and therefore BBBJ).[/QUOTE]Russian Mila from Latvia still provides free BBBJ and ass licking, also CIM for 25, and the quality is superb, as well as GFE.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2036772]Do you have facts and reasons for your hypothesis?[/QUOTE]No scientific research, but spoke with many club owners and working girls the last few months (as every regular customers [should] do normally) and explicitely asked about this, and the trend resulting from this I described. Reasons for this (possible) difference between Bundeslander (German States)? No idea, maybe their attitude towards central government? The number of international tourists present (mainly the larger Hessen and BW clubs)? The number of regular clients (mainly the smaller NRW clubs)? The geographical location? Alternatives close by? Etc?
We will see what happens, but people underestimate the strictness (German) people will have towards the new law, even if they disagree with it (in for example Italy or Belgium or Holland people generally are not so worried about these kind of laws). Of course BBBJ will still be offered, but, like in Bayern now, more rare and at an (extra) price. The big difference between Bayern law and the new German law is the much higher exposure IF / WHEN you are breaking it (max 5 K for the girl and 50 K for the man!)
Chances are small, but specially married men don't want to be in such a akward situation, which is making you exposed to blackmailing also (by the girls, don't underestimate the Rumanian nature when they smell this kind of opportunity!). The girl might trust you (refraining from writing/telling about it), but...................do you trust the girl so much to expose yourself potentially?
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2036871]DFK is a red line. I have even ditched girls who were good DFKers at first but half-hearted about it later, on the basis that they were not being true to the experience.[/QUOTE]Totally agree, so a new session with Viktoria will probably not happen, only when she DFKs me passionately in the bar!
[QUOTE=Sanuk327;2037708]Russian Mila from Latvia still provides free BBBJ and ass licking, also CIM for 25, and the quality is superb, as well as GFE.[/QUOTE]Of course she does, she is a talent, question is, what will she do in 6 weeks from now?
[QUOTE=Maxime;2037846]much higher exposure IF / WHEN you are breaking it (max 5 K for the girl [/QUOTE]That's not true. There are NO penalties for the girls when doing BBBJ or BBFS. It's the guys only. Which is 100% opposite to what the situation is now in Bayern and Saarland. And I always got BBBJ in Bavarian clubs with no extra charge.
HB.
Went with Jenny (Hun) and Violetta.
Violetta, blonde, green eyes, light skin, not so slim. Thicker bottom. GND look, pretty. Don't look typical Romanian, thought German or perhaps Polish. Very intelligent gal that speaks English very very good. Intelligent gal for good conversations. Good relaxing GFE provider. Made out with her on the couch before room(what I like about these types of clubs). Saw public bbbj in the couch area.
Jenny Hungarian. 19 on the website. Great fun even if kissing wasn't all that good. Everything else was really good. Reminds of wild time I had with Jana Hungarian at Sharks long ago, but this girl is very young. She's a baskwt full of energy and really gets into it. English is very low.
Victoria, Iran Bulgarian, ex-Sharks, LR, AG was there.
LU isn't good, but girls are all really nice and friendly with relaxing vibe. About 5 girls including above I would go with, but the avg LU is RTC or East of Duss, small clubs around Dortmund like Luder Lounge level. Quite low. Not be considered mainstream club optic LU.
Club is smaller than expectes. Like large house, bigger than Bearnds. Feels similar to Haus Panthera back in the days.
Wasn't providing ala carte since they were grilling. Food is just ok.
Small outside area with loungers.
60 Euros is a lot for what you get if you ask me. There are alternatives with cheaper entry for similar type clubs. For some guys, Violetta has them pay the entry perhaps. LOL.
It's a dayclub, girls arrive before 2, and the clientel are generally older Germans. Similar type music you hear at Finca.
Not much draw to visit again with the Entry free and the location, and most importanly the LU wasn't on the avg good(LU suffers similarly of the typical of these type clubs, few doables, and majority not). But, meeting Violetta and Jenny was definately worth it.
This is my first report of any length for some time and is my observations and anecdotes from a trip to NRW and a number of its FKKs. The plan was to spend five days: Day 1 at Babylon in Elsdorf, Day 2 at Living Room in Kaarst, Day 3 at Acapulco in Velbert and then Day 4 at PSR in Lohmar for the early session and then later at Samya in Michaelshoven with Day 5 (a Sunday) chilling in Samya. It didn't go entirely to plan.
Day 2. Originally aiming for LR I decided to drive to fulfil my plan and visit Babylon. In hindsight I should have taken the opportunity to make a first visit to Golden Time but armed with the 'Planer' ([URL]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-anwesenheit.php[/URL]) I set off. This was my first visit and almost certainly my last. Elsdorf isn't Gotham City to say the least and Babylon is easy to find. One notable thing about Babylon is the 5 or 6 ladies of colour that add to the choice. I could, more or less, identify them from the aforementioned 'Planer' but I the struggled to identify many others. The planner appears to be updated on a daily basis and either the images are too airbrushed or the better choices were constantly busy but I stayed for as long as I could be bothered and then gave up. Throughout this time I was constantly bothered by Aylin (40+). I left just after 6 in the evening and drove back to ISA and Living Room. One observation is that 'proceedings' were, in a few cases, seen to start in the bar area in plain sight which is not the usual case in the clubs I'm used to. In one case (I believe it must have been Shana) I think it may well have ended within the bar as well judged by her rather hasty rush to the nearby bathroom while the recipient of her enthusiastic oral bobbing looked a little bemused. Living Room again then: another €60 and this just reinforced my hindsight that I should have tried Golden Time first as it would almost certainly have been better than Babylon and if you attend GT first they give you a €25 discount at LR (and vice versa). Sphia was on my list again as I just seem to get on with her really well. Then I was cornered by Luna who rememberd me from the previous evening. I was invited to join Luna for dinner as she thought she had me snared. Indeed she did and I was greatly entertained by her. She said it was only her 3rd week and she had moved from Magnum. The line-up improved as well and there are enough ladies of the correct calibre for me to keep me amused for a few days. I was close to calling it a night and was then captured by Aifa who was perfect for that time's mood. A petite firecracker and I proceeded to spend a solid 2 hours and surprised myself with the vigour I mustered. Excellent day in the end and despite its faults LR has become a 'go to' for me. I will certainly return and Alexandra (once Beyonce at Samya) is already on my dance card!
[QUOTE=PedroT97;2039735]This is my first report of any length for some time and is my observations and anecdotes from a trip to NRW and a number of its FKKs. The plan was to spend five days: Day 1 at Babylon in Elsdorf, Day 2 at Living Room in Kaarst, Day 3 at Acapulco in Velbert and then Day 4 at PSR in Lohmar for the early session and then later at Samya in Michaelshoven with Day 5 (a Sunday) chilling in Samya. It didn't go entirely to plan.
Day 2. Originally aiming for LR I decided to drive to fulfil my plan and visit Babylon. In hindsight I should have taken the opportunity to make a first visit to Golden Time but armed with the 'Planer' ([URL]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-anwesenheit.php[/URL]) I set off. This was my first visit and almost certainly my last. Elsdorf isn't Gotham City to say the least and Babylon is easy to find. One notable thing about Babylon is the 5 or 6 ladies of colour that add to the choice. I could, more or less, identify them from the aforementioned 'Planer' but I the struggled to identify many others. The planner appears to be updated on a daily basis and either the images are too airbrushed or the better choices were constantly busy but I stayed for as long as I could be bothered and then gave up. Throughout this time I was constantly bothered by Aylin (40+). I left just after 6 in the evening and drove back to ISA and Living Room. One observation is that 'proceedings' were, in a few cases, seen to start in the bar area in plain sight which is not the usual case in the clubs I'm used to. In one case (I believe it must have been Shana) I think it may well have ended within the bar as well judged by her rather hasty rush to the nearby bathroom while the recipient of her enthusiastic oral bobbing looked a little bemused. Living Room again then: another 60 and this just reinforced my hindsight that I should have tried Golden Time first as it would almost certainly have been better than Babylon and if you attend GT first they give you a 25 discount at LR (and vice versa). Sphia was on my list again as I just seem to get on with her really well. Then I was cornered by Luna who rememberd me from the previous evening.[/QUOTE]GT and LR are not playing in the same lingual than Babylon or Samya etc. They are in the top of the FKK clubs in Germany.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2039681]meeting Violetta and Jenny was definately worth it.[/QUOTE]Agree. Two top ladies with great personality. If only all romanians talked english like Violetta.
Did you see any construction work to build a outside pool?
T.
[QUOTE=Tjohoo;2039871]Agree. Two top ladies with great personality. If only all romanians talked english like Violetta.
Did you see any construction work to build a outside pool?
T.[/QUOTE]If all WGs are capable of carrying themselves like this Romie (Violetta), would be a brighter world. She is what I call a truely skilled WG. Really smart.
Didn't see construction work. Only outside area I've seen is the immediate are outside the bar with the loungers and shaded tables, and the grill. Small area. I dunno how big of a pool they can fit in that area, so small.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2040103]Didn't see construction work. Only outside area I've seen is the immediate are outside the bar with the loungers and shaded tables, and the grill. Small area. I dunno how big of a pool they can fit in that area, so small.[/QUOTE]There is a much bigger outside area with a garden on the opposite side of the house. Great on hot days and evenings.
T.
Babylon might be my favorite club, right now. I've been twice in the past month, once on a Tuesday afternoon and once on a Thursday. When you ring the front doorbell, a bell also rings inside and all the girls present (or most of them, anyway) go over and line up at the reception, so when you open the door you see in front of you a wall of about 20 or 30 naked girls. Nice touch. It seems to be a much, much friendlier club than even YinYang, which I've always thought of as a fairly friendly place, and worlds away from the ice gardens of Goldentime and Palace. The staff is nicer (ok, German efficient, but still nicer) and the girls' service level seems much higher as well in general. By that, I mean that they seem to like what they're doing more than most places I've been to. (I usually ask a girl how she likes working at a place, which is a good, non-intrusive question to ask to get an idea for her overall attitude. Lots of places, they'll usually frown and say "not good," or something like that. At Babylon, the most common answer I got was "It depends on the guy," which is the second best answer you can hope for, right after "I fucking love it! Which I've only heard twice in 15 years, and which marks a girl you need to sweep off to a room right away.) If optics are all you're looking for, Babs might not be for you, but even so, there are some real stunners, girls with amazing bodies, even early afternoon on a Tuesday. Plus they're naked, so what you see is what you get. I went with Thea, tall Amazonian / Croatian, who's a bit of a dom and who fucking owned me in the room, Michelle, Polish, a little pushy, with good if not spectacular service, Rebekka, fantastic, slow and sensual, and Maya, phenomenal BJ. Wanted to go with a few others (Claudia, Antonia, Jenny) but either they weren't there or I ran out of time. Food was decent, plus the have heffeweisen, so bonus there. I'll try to get back one or two more times this month.
[QUOTE=BaconSandwich;2044824]Babylon might be my favorite club, right now. I've been twice in the past month, once on a Tuesday afternoon and once on a Thursday. When you ring the front doorbell, a bell also rings inside and all the girls present (or most of them, anyway) go over and line up at the reception, so when you open the door you see in front of you a wall of about 20 or 30 naked girls. Nice touch. It seems to be a much, much friendlier club than even YinYang, which I've always thought of as a fairly friendly place, and worlds away from the ice gardens of Goldentime and Palace. The staff is nicer (ok, German efficient, but still nicer) and the girls' service level seems much higher as well in general. By that, I mean that they seem to like what they're doing more than most places I've been to. (I usually ask a girl how she likes working at a place, which is a good, non-intrusive question to ask to get an idea for her overall attitude. Lots of places, they'll usually frown and say "not good," or something like that. At Babylon, the most common answer I got was "It depends on the guy," which is the second best answer you can hope for, right after "I fucking love it! Which I've only heard twice in 15 years, and which marks a girl you need to sweep off to a room right away.) If optics are all you're looking for, Babs might not be for you, but even so, there are some real stunners, girls with amazing bodies, even early afternoon on a Tuesday. Plus they're naked, so what you see is what you get. I went with Thea, tall Amazonian / Croatian, who's a bit of a dom and who fucking owned me in the room, Michelle, Polish, a little pushy, with good if not spectacular service, Rebekka, fantastic, slow and sensual, and Maya, phenomenal BJ. Wanted to go with a few others (Claudia, Antonia, Jenny) but either they weren't there or I ran out of time. Food was decent, plus the have heffeweisen, so bonus there. I'll try to get back one or two more times this month.[/QUOTE]Never believe one world coming from a prostitute second if you like fully naked girls, recommend you to go to Hessen big FKK.
Good news Babylon is now a smoke free club.
Wish other clubs like GT, LR or Sharks would follow.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2045338]Wish other clubs like GT, LR or Sharks would follow.[/QUOTE]Add Oase to this list.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2045390]Add Oase to this list.[/QUOTE]Yep would be better but Oase isn't so worse with smoke like GT, LR or Sharks bc at Oase smoking is allowed only in the rear of the lounge, all other parts are smoke free.
I know LR has also inside a smoke free area but this is for me only theoretical.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2045395]Yep would be better but Oase isn't so worse with smoke like GT, LR or Sharks bc at Oase smoking is allowed only in the rear of the lounge, all other parts are smoke free.
I know LR has also inside a smoke free area but this is for me only theoretical.[/QUOTE]LR is smoke free when registration control for girls, then no more ashtray and girls outside, it was in Winter, on a Friday evening.
Babylon's always been a favorite, for being the rare true-FKK in NRW, and for it's lineup of black girls. Departing Cologne late morning, S19 to Horrem (there should really be an FKK there just for the name possibilities, say "Horren Haus" and then by bus 941 to Arnoldstrasse in Elsdorf. I like Babylon as a day club, partly because public transportation really dries up later in the day, and for the outdoor facilities. On this hot, sunny Friday I looked forward to a nice dip in the pool, but discovered upon getting to the club the back yard was all torn up for renovations (though the pool water looked crystal clear though surrounded by dirt and heavy machinery).
Also to my surprise, the place was hopping. I hadn't expected it to be so full of girls or guests on a weekday afternoon, albeit a Friday. And among the girls there were at least seven or eight black girls. And right from the start I had to start avoiding them, or rather a very pushy one who greeted me. I don't mind a girl embracing me, touching my chest, or regions south, but this one small girl with cornrow hair just latched on to me and would not let go. My escape to the basement was thwarted when she followed me, grabbing my arm, and insisted I take her along, whether I said I wanted to peek outside or use the sauna, whatever. She hung on like an animal with its jaws in its prey. When I did escape it was not for long since she stalked me elsewhere, sitting on the arm of my chair, and generally bugging me. Not even acting cute or sexy, just desperate. She eventually gave up after I told her no thanks for the umpteenth time.
Fortunately, there were black girls there I actually wanted to be with. First was gorgeous Iman from Mali by way of Belgium, whom I had been with at Babylon in the past. While I love sampling many girls when FKK-ing, my real goal is to find a girl I'm sexually compatible with and spend a lot of time with her. Iman fit this bill; even before we headed to a room she kissed me passionately as we sat on a couch (conveniently near the annoying girl, giving her a glimpse of the right way to operate). In the room tongues intertwined some more, and licked every part of our respective bodies. The sex that followed was sensuous, Iman once riding me to the finish, another time taking my load as I pumped her while prone, looking down on her fine ass. The details run together with this one since it was such an organic, satisfying two hours.
Next was a dud. This Romanian with raspberry highlights in her hair had possibly the best body at Babylon, slender and sexy, which is why I said yes when she proposed a session. But in the room there was no spark and I couldn't even finish with her. I made up for it by enjoying some beer and the good barbecue they had going, the grills I had on the trip.
More compensation was provided by my last session at Babylon, with Kelly from Ghana. Sporting sunglasses indoors, I figured she had some personality to go along with her fine body. After we caressed and kissed on a couch I spent the next hour and a half exploring that body, with lots of tit sucking, pussy licking, and enjoying her blowjob skills. Missionary fucking was intense but I came banging her from behind in doggy. I liked Kelly so much that the next day I had ideas about blowing up my travel plans and going back to Babylon for the day, but my interest in new pastures took charge.
This long session pushed back my intended departure time; I had even toyed with getting back to Bernd's but that was out now that I was leaving Babylon at around seven. Luckily I had some notes on the buses out, and that the Gut Neuenhof stop on the 963 to Konigsdorf S-Bahn (S-19) was nearby. That bus was the last of the day out of Elsdorf. But I made it back to Cologne in about an hour-plus and was soon on another train headed toward Samya.
Like Ibn, I was also here last Friday, and odds are I'll be there again this coming Friday. (We probably crossed paths Ibn, though I spent A LOT of time in rooms ;) I won't add too much, except to say that this continues to be a favorite club in Germany. It was the first time I'd been on a Friday, and there was a great party atmosphere. I even saw one dude getting a blowjob while standing at the bar with his beer! (I think it was Maya on the giving end, but not sure, as could only see the back of her bobbing head ;) One of my favourite moments was when I was drinking a beer at the bar, and Georgiana leaned in beside me and said, "You have nice eyes. I'd like to see them looking up from my mound." I felt like such a piece of meat! It was great.
Like all FKK sessions, you tend to get what you give, but I can highly recommend Antonia, Victoria and Georgiana. Really, I have yet to experience a "bad" session at this place. For sure, some are better, some worse, and I'll admit that I can usually be easily pleased, but the overall service level here is far higher than most clubs, with the obvious exception of Bernds. This can most definitely not be said for Palace, Goldentime, Samya, and nearly every other club, where good experiences are for sure available, but you're often down to dumb luck when going with an unfamiliar girl.
First, an acknowledgement to Ibn Buttita for his fabulous reports. The report on his visit to Babylon is so good that I am just going to save a lot of effort on my part by just plagiarising huge chunks of it. Being an inherently lazy writer without skills to elaborate, this would enable me to give a fuller report than my usual sparse ones. Here goes:
Babylon always been one of my favorites for being the rare fully naked FKK in NRW after Bernd's and for it's lineup of black girls. I normally also visit Bernd's and LR when in Cologne. I decided not to visit Bernd's in this trip as my very longtime favorites Tina and Anna are no longer working there and I read that currently Maria and Xenia are absent. Finally, I also did not visit LR as my favorite there, Claudia, is reportedly now in Oase.
Departing Cologne early morning, I took the S19 at 9 am to Konigsdorf-Frechen and then the bus 963 at 0940 to Gut Neuenhof (Elsdorf) which is a stop just a 3 minute walk away from Babylon. But this was going to be a very long 3 minutes. This was because although the sky was cloudy but clear when I left Cologne, it was drizzling slightly at Konigsdorf and pouring heavily by the time I arrived at Gut Neuenhof at 1015. As I had no raincoat or umbrella and Babylon was not open yet, I sat under the shelter at the bus stop and waited for the rain to abate. It did not, but got heavier and heavier.
Now and then, I pondered whether I should make the 3-minute dash to Babylon, but decided not to as maybe they would not let me in, and I could not remember whether there was adequate shelter in front of their door. I had a book with me and completed a few chapters at the bus stop.
Lo and behold, at 1105 the rain stopped and I finally madethe 3-minute walk to Babylon. The was already hopping. I hadn't expected it to be so full of girls or guests in the morning, especially a rainy one. It seems that I was the only poor soul who came by public transport.
Among the girls, there were at least seven or eight black girls. None were in the line-up to greet me. The white girls who gathered also dispersed within a second. I suspect the receptionist gave them an 'old customer' signal, as they would usually hang around for about 15 seconds for new customers to view them. Or maybe the practice is that if one of the girls recognises the person who entered, she would inform the rest. Anyone knows?
There were black girls there I wanted to be with. One was gorgeous Iman from Mali by way of Belgium, whom I had been with at Babylon in the past. However, I was looking for and hoping that Maria, the Cuban, whom I sampled in my visit in April would be there, as I found her better than Iman. Her name was in the roster the previous weeks, but disappeared earlier that week. Sometimes they reapoear, so I had some hopes. Alas, she was absent.
I next looked for Violetta. Not in sight. I went to peep at the room booking sheet. Yes, she was already busy. Must have been a pre-arranged customer as usual.
Then a very pretty black girl walked past me. I had not seen her before. Tall, slender, perfectly proportioned and sharp facial features. She just ignored me, got a drink and went to the rear room to sit down in the dark corner where Bella sat in the previous month. I followed her back and decided that I must get her immediately regardless how good or bad her service might be as she had the prettiest face I had seen among blacks in FKKs so far.
Fortunately, when I approached her, she gave a bewitching and that sealed the deal. Her name was Angel. She said that her parents were from Ghana and Ethiopia. She spoke very good English and gave perfect GFE and service. She has slightly thick lips which she locked with mine for long kisses. And such sweet breath. Either she does not smoke, or have not had her first smoke of the fday yet. I could not have asked for more. She was relatively new in the club, just 2-3 months she claimed.
After a session with her that I extended, I went to the booking sheet again to see if Violetta had come out. Alas she was already in another room! A Romanian with raspberry highlights in her hair, slender and sexy, approached me, but I was too exhausted and was planning to wait till Violetta came out from her 2nd room.
I took a slow lunch. As Violetta had still not emerged after 45 minutes, I concluded that she was probably having a 3-4 hour session, and thus decided to try someone else.
A cute bubbly small-sized slim girl, Eva, tried to entice me. As she was pretty and sweet, I gave it a go. Service was routine though and there was no spark.
Next I met a girl with an opposie external demeanor, Paris. She looked shy and kept to herself. I recall she had good reports in the Babylon forum, so I decided to give her a try although she smelt of cigarette smoke, something that usually puts me off. She gave good service, but I was in a rush to get it over with as her strong smoker's breath made it impossible for me to kiss her although she was willing. For me, no kissing means no GFE and that spoils the session.
After our session, I took a break to enjoy the fresh air in the garden. The rain has stopped and the sun was peeping out. I did not feel like another session for quite some time as the smell from Paris' breath stuck in my system.
When I went back to the lounge, this passive and shy-looking Paris was engaged in vigorous couch action in the rear part of the lounge. Very long blowjob from various angles followed by intercourse in various positions. There were some onlookers deeply engrossed in watching the action. I think they just stopped short of clapping when the couple finished after more than 20 minutes! This totally beat the awful porn show put on at the birthday party at world, as Paris was reasonably good-looking.
This long session pushed back my intended departure time; I had even toyed with getting back to Bernd's but that was out now that I was leaving Babylon at almost 8pm. I took the last bus 963 at 2001, changed to the S19 at Konigsdorf, and made it back to Cologne in about an hour's time back to my hotel to sleep and dream of Angel, and the Paris show.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2050612]First, an acknowledgement to Ibn Buttita for his fabulous reports. The report on his visit to Babylon is so good that I am just going to save a lot of effort on my part by just plagiarising huge chunks of it. Being an inherently lazy writer without skills to elaborate, this would enable me to give a fuller report than my usual sparse ones.[/QUOTE]It's an honor to be imitated, TT, but you sound like you've got the art of the report down pretty well!
[QUOTE=BaconSandwich]Like Ibn, I was also here last Friday, and odds are I'll be there again this coming Friday. (We probably crossed paths Ibn, though I spent A LOT of time in rooms I won't add too much, except to say that this continues to be a favorite club in Germany. It was the first time I'd been on a Friday, and there was a great party atmosphere. I even saw one dude getting a blowjob while standing at the bar with his beer!
[/QUOTE]I wish I'd have known how to find you to compare notes. It is good to hear about public action being ok at Babylon, I would have tried some myself with one of my girls. Just another reason to get back, I guess. Not that I needed an more incentive though.
T-Tank / Ibn,
Thanks for great reports. Together with Be Wilder / Tommy and a couple of others you set a standard few are able to match.
We all know clubs like Babylon and Bernd's are highly regarded as service clubs. But how do you compare the optics between the two?
I do not care about the lesser half of any LU, but let's say the average Top 3/ Top 5 on your latest visits. I am interested in a personal opinon of course, but for reference I can reveal that I find Xenia, Maria, Christine and Elisa (and possibly Anni) as attractive targets at Bernd's.
Thanks again.
Shk16,
I have aways avoided comparing as views of the same girls often differ widely between customers. And in the case of Bernd's, I find it particular difficut to even conclude for myself who are really attractive as I am sure my judgement would be strongly prejudiced by their excellent service levels and the skill all the girls in Bernd's have always had in giving me the illusion that I am their best boyfriend!
For example, when I am in a big Frankfurt FKK like Sharks and think of a visit the next day to Bernd's, I would wonder how on earth could I find Anna of Bernd's attractive compared to the top girls at Sharks. But when I get to Bernd's the next day and see Anna, I just can't wait to bonk her, and at that time I would find her as pretty as Maria Sharapova. And when I am back in Sharks a few days later, I would wonder why I did not instead go back to Bernd's to have another go at Anna, Tina, Mara or Maria instead of trying my luck in the Sharks tank where on average half my attempts at new girls were poor choices. In other words, for me, I am unable to really separate optical attactiveness from service and GFE levels previously experienced.
Having expounded the reason for my reservations in even making a personal judgement (let alone trying to think about whom others would like), here is my ranking of the top 6 girls in Bernd's and Babylon whom I had been with this year purely in terms of optical attractiveness:
1 Alexa. Babylon.
2 Christin. Bernd's.
3 Angel. Babylon.
4 Xenia. Bernd's.
5 Maria. Bernd's.
6 Violetta. Babylon.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2050951]Having expounded the reason for my reservations in even making a personal judgement (let alone trying to think about whom others would like), here is my ranking of the top 6 girls in Bernd's and Babylon whom I had been with this year purely in terms of optical attractiveness:
1 Alexa. Babylon.
2 Christin. Bernd's.
3 Angel. Babylon.
4 Xenia. Bernd's.
5 Maria. Bernd's.
6 Violetta. Babylon.[/QUOTE]I don't know Angel but I don't go with black girls. Black, Latinas and Asian girls are not my kind of Caucasian sensuality, but some Arabian or Persian girls can be top sensual and sexy.
Quite average face for me for teeny look Kristin. Ro and seeing her kissing and being fingered at the bar by a fat, is a no go for me.
Too average face for tall, white skin Xenia. Ru who was asked to come to me, but I couldn't go with her. She understood my eyes.
Maria is friendly and smiling GND.
Alexa Bab is Queen of sweet BBBJ, but not so fresh look than in 2013. Too fake blond look now and not so slim.
Violetta is cute and real GFE.
Average look at Bernds and Bab, even some superstars: Barbi, Kity, Natalia, worked at Bab before becoming stars at GT. Same than Kate Aca becoming a busy superstar now at GT.
Everything is possible in FKK land.
[QUOTE=IbnButtita;2050858]
I wish I'd have known how to find you to compare notes. It is good to hear about public action being ok at Babylon, I would have tried some myself with one of my girls. Just another reason to get back, I guess. Not that I needed an more incentive though.[/QUOTE]I think the public action ramps up the later in the evening it gets. Part of the reason for that, IMO, is that nearly everyone here enjoys a drink or two: girls, bartenders, tekefrau, owner, and they all seem to want to let loose come Friday, so over the course of the day it becomes more and more of a party, which then becomes more and more of an orgy. Good times.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2050951]In other words, for me, I am unable to really separate optical attactiveness from service and GFE levels previously experienced.
[/QUOTE]You got it TT, exactly. All these guys on here who are like, "I need good optiks! If she's not 9 or 10 I won't do her!" I really don't understand. I would far rather go with girl who may not be perfect, but who is super cool, and / or gives stellar service, and / or is simply interesting or unique in some way. I've been with my share of 10's. In my experience it is very much like fucking a barbie doll. (Not that I've ever actually fucked a barbie doll. That would be difficult. Nearly impossible, really, come to think of it.).
[QUOTE=BaconSandwich;2051059]You got it TT, exactly. All these guys on here who are like, "I need good optiks! If she's not 9 or 10 I won't do her!" I really don't understand. I would far rather go with girl who may not be perfect, but who is super cool, and / or gives stellar service, and / or is simply interesting or unique in some way. I've been with my share of 10's. In my experience it is very much like fucking a barbie doll. (Not that I've ever actually fucked a barbie doll. That would be difficult. Nearly impossible, really, come to think of it.).[/QUOTE]If the girl is not attractive look for me, even she is lovely for behavior, I don't want she touch me. I hate black girls who always come to touch you. Nightmare at PHG or even GT.
When I see a girl providing public BBBJ or sex or even kissing or touched, not attracted anymore. Same when I see girls going with some kind of guys, even Kate doesn't understand I don't desire her after.
Attractive image make desire. Low level behavior WGs don't worth my money.
[QUOTE=BaconSandwich;2051054]I think the public action ramps up the later in the evening it gets. Part of the reason for that, IMO, is that nearly everyone here enjoys a drink or two: girls, bartenders, tekefrau, owner, and they all seem to want to let loose come Friday, so over the course of the day it becomes more and more of a party, which then becomes more and more of an orgy. Good times.[/QUOTE]Another feature of Babylon is that now and then they play rousing German folk dance music. The German men start singing, the girls start singing, it builds up to an Octoberfest atmosphere, people get more drunk and you get more couch action.
Also, on that large cushioned platform in the rear part of the lounge where I saw the public intercourse put up by Paris, the placement of many boxes of tissue on the platform makes it evident that public intercourse was welcomed. I have seen it done there on 4 occasions already over the past 2 years.
Thanks, Shark.
I think TankTank sums it up well. In general I think Bernds is so unique that it can't be compared to other places. In this case Babylon has so much more choice and better looking girls oveall, but at Bernds Annie was so nympho that even though she was not a stunner (thinner than I like and facially ok but not gorgeous) I considered changing my whole itinerary to get back to see her again (though that did not work out).
IB.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2050951]Shk16,
I have aways avoided comparing as views of the same girls often differ widely between customers. And in the case of Bernd's, I find it particular difficut to even conclude for myself who are really attractive as I am sure my judgement would be strongly prejudiced by their excellent service levels and the skill all the girls in Bernd's have always had in giving me the illusion that I am their best boyfriend!
For example, when I am in a big Frankfurt FKK like Sharks and think of a visit the next day to Bernd's, I would wonder how on earth could I find Anna of Bernd's attractive compared to the top girls at Sharks. But when I get to Bernd's the next day and see Anna, I just can't wait to bonk her, and at that time I would find her as pretty as Maria Sharapova. And when I am back in Sharks a few days later, I would wonder why I did not instead go back to Bernd's to have another go at Anna, Tina, Mara or Maria instead of trying my luck in the Sharks tank where on average half my attempts at new girls were poor choices. In other words, for me, I am unable to really separate optical attactiveness from service and GFE levels previously experienced.
Having expounded the reason for my reservations in even making a personal judgement (let alone trying to think about whom others would like), here is my ranking of the top 6 girls in Bernd's and Babylon whom I had been with this year purely in terms of optical attractiveness:
1 Alexa. Babylon.
2 Christin. Bernd's.
3 Angel. Babylon.
4 Xenia. Bernd's.
5 Maria. Bernd's.
6 Violetta. Babylon.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2051079] When I see a girl providing public BBBJ or sex or even kissing or touched, not attracted anymore. [/QUOTE]See, that just turns me on more, because then I know she is basically up for anything. Funny, though, how guys are totally different about what they like and don't. (And girls for that matter.) Keeps everything interesting.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2050991]... and seeing her kissing and being fingered at the bar by a fat, is a no go for me.[/QUOTE]For your information, I had kissed and fingered your 'dreamed' girls Mandy, Megan, and jolie Angelina before. You will now have to avoid them also. 😏.
Other fat readers of this post might perhaps also want to do Sirioja a kind service by reporting on any other of his dreamed girls whom they had kissed and fingered, or have seen other fats do so.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2051346]For your information, I had kissed and fingered your 'dreamed' girls Mandy, Megan, and jolie Angelina before. You will now have to avoid them also. 😏.
Other fat readers of this post might perhaps also want to do Sirioja a kind service by reporting on any other of his dreamed girls whom they had kissed and fingered, or have seen other fats do so.[/QUOTE]For Kristin. Ro, it was when I just arrived, to see how monster opened her legs at the bar downstairs while DFKing her. Beauty even average but at least fresh, and old beast.
I doubt You had public foreplay with Megan, I never saw her, so I can keep on liking her, even I sometimes refused to go with her after some guys. I think she understood at Sharks.
When I went with her, I saw Madi fucked in old kino once, but as she was really not busy, sad to see the prettiest girl waiting sitting at this time, so I just said to her I was too tired on this night, but never said more.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2051346]
Other fat readers of this post might perhaps also want to do Sirioja a kind service by reporting on any other of his dreamed girls whom they had kissed and fingered, or have seen other fats do so.[/QUOTE]Far too frequently, faulty fat fucks are fingering the fresh flowing faginas of fit females in the flower of fulsomeness formerly favored with feeling by flirtatious Frenchmen fond of firm flesh.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2051346]
Other fat readers of this post might perhaps also want to do Sirioja a kind service by reporting on any other of his dreamed girls whom they had kissed and fingered, or have seen other fats do so.[/QUOTE]Two of his real woman angels the Atlanta Danny and Oase Sabina / Ramona I fucked them even in the ass and received from both a top RJ.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2051483]Far too frequently, faulty fat fucks are fingering the fresh flowing faginas of fit females in the flower of fulsomeness formerly favored with feeling by flirtatious Frenchmen fond of firm flesh.[/QUOTE]Sorry but where did you study your English?
[QUOTE=Craiova;2051485]Two of his real woman angels the Atlanta Danny and Oase Sabina / Ramona I fucked them even in the ass and received from both a top RJ.[/QUOTE]Good work, but are you fat enough to make this truly revolting?
[QUOTE=Craiova;2051485]Two of his real woman angels the Atlanta Danny and Oase Sabina / Ramona I fucked them even in the ass and received from both a top RJ.[/QUOTE]Is it a great performance, probably not you just had to pay for it, that is all.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2051354]For Kristin. Ro, it was when I just arrived, to see how monster opened her legs at the bar downstairs while DFKing her. Beauty even average but at least fresh, and old beast.
[/QUOTE]So fucking hot.
Any word on what's happening here, in the wake of the new law?
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[QUOTE=BaconSandwich;2057943]Any word on what's happening here, in the wake of the new law?[/QUOTE]Same as in other German clubs, the new law is active here, so use of condom is mandatory! Like before, what happens in the room that is outside the law, stays inside the room, so the same as in other clubs.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2058068]Same as in other German clubs, the new law is active here, so use of condom is mandatory![/QUOTE]Okay, good, thanks for the warning that Babylon is also a no go club.
According to the law, every club is a no go now.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2051346]For your information, I had kissed and fingered your 'dreamed' girls Mandy, Megan, and jolie Angelina before. You will now have to avoid them also. 😏.
Other fat readers of this post might perhaps also want to do Sirioja a kind service by reporting on any other of his dreamed girls whom they had kissed and fingered, or have seen other fats do so.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Craiova;2051485]Two of his real woman angels the Atlanta Danny and Oase Sabina / Ramona I fucked them even in the ass and received from both a top RJ.[/QUOTE]TankTank, one of your three girls gives great rim job in each session. Anything to please her man. I the idea is always be first of the day to make sure she has not been with another man. No running off to get breakfast like the French do.
Craiova, well done getting Danny and Sabina / Ramona to let you fuck them up their tight little assholes. Even more kudos for you to get them to lick and rim your asshole with their tongue, lips and mouths. I did get another Sabina at Oase to lick my asshole once before.
All these girls, especially the top model looking ones love to fuck fat, old and bald men. You see them doing it all the time.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2058104]According to the law, every club is a no go now.[/QUOTE]Not a no go club if we get reports of BBBJ action.
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;2058070] I wasn't talking about Dietzenbach and World. It was World and two other clubs.[/QUOTE]
Even Hessen Bub says that the BBBJ ban is only in three of the Hessen clubs, one of which is World and one is not Dietzenbach.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2058104]According to the law, every club is a no go now.[/QUOTE]I don't agree with you, still a lot of safe fun there.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2058106]TankTank, one of your three girls gives great rim job in each session. Anything to please her man. I the idea is always be first of the day to make sure she has not been with another man. No running off to get breakfast like the French do.
Craiova, well done getting Danny and Sabina / Ramona to let you fuck them up their tight little assholes. Even more kudos for you to get them to lick and rim your asshole with their tongue, lips and mouths. I did get another Sabina at Oase to lick my asshole once before.
All these girls, especially the top model looking ones love to fuck fat, old and bald men. You see them doing it all the time.[/QUOTE]The girls work in the club to earn as much as possible, when they go with us in the room they switch of their brain especially when you are the 20 customer of the day. Some of them have no restriction just they want cash. Sometimes I session a girl and I see her one week later and she doesn't recognize me, or last week at Shark one girl was saying that I had a duo with her, I told her to double check with her friend and she was wrong.
My favorite club still. Business looks to have gone way up as there was actually a wait for rooms at around 1700 on a Saturday.
Plenty of girls, overall lineup probably a 7/10. New renovation looks great (nice pool area) and there looks to be even more remodeling on the way.
Totally agree Paul. Since visiting Babylon for the first time a few months ago, it has quickly become my favorite club. So much friendlier than nearly everyplace else, and higher service levels. You can basically pick any girl here and odds are the service will be good if not great.
My question is this: are there any clubs around Frankfurt than can offer similar service levels? I'm not familiar with the Frankfurt scene, other than Palace (which is a fucking shark tank and I hate it) and two quick trips to the RLD. Oase is a little out of the way for the amount of time I'll be there. Any other good service options in the area?
Around Frankfort there's the Bahama sauna club in Maintal.
[QUOTE=BaconSandwich;2062497]Totally agree Paul. Since visiting Babylon for the first time a few months ago, it has quickly become my favorite club. So much friendlier than nearly everyplace else, and higher service levels. You can basically pick any girl here and odds are the service will be good if not great.
My question is this: are there any clubs around Frankfurt than can offer similar service levels? I'm not familiar with the Frankfurt scene, other than Palace (which is a fucking shark tank and I hate it) and two quick trips to the RLD. Oase is a little out of the way for the amount of time I'll be there. Any other good service options in the area?[/QUOTE]As a frequent visitor of Oase and Sharks, I am sorry to say that the overall / average service level there the last few years is much lower than in Babylon and other smaller service clubs. Optics in Oase and Sharks are good however, and if you are willing to shop around with 10 girls before you find one that offers a decent service, go Oase / Sharks. You can have decent service, but it will cost you some (time / money / effort / etc). Prefer Oase over Sharks and way over Palace however, if you are limited to this area.
In that area, but still 1,5 hours more south, near Stuttgart, I can only recommend Sakura as a real good club where management is still strict about services of the girls (legally they can not of course, but it is not so difficult, just deny entrance for girls who have 2-3 complaints from regular customers). So I would recommend Sakura, but don't know how it is after July 1st: if they follow the law strictly (that is what I heard) than that club can be avoided too from now on.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2062545]As a frequent visitor of Oase and Sharks, I am sorry to say that the overall / average service level there the last few years is much lower than in Babylon and other smaller service clubs. Optics in Oase and Sharks are good however, and if you are willing to shop around with 10 girls before you find one that offers a decent service, go Oase / Sharks. You can have decent service, but it will cost you some (time / money / effort / etc). Prefer Oase over Sharks and way over Palace however, if you are limited to this area.
In that area, but still 1,5 hours more south, near Stuttgart, I can only recommend Sakura as a real good club where management is still strict about services of the girls (legally they can not of course, but it is not so difficult, just deny entrance for girls who have 2-3 complaints from regular customers). So I would recommend Sakura, but don't know how it is after July 1st: if they follow the law strictly (that is what I heard) than that club can be avoided too from now on.[/QUOTE]It depends if you are looking for service or optic, I would definitively go for optic. Oase and Shark offer both, Sakura was one of my favorite club but the LU in the last year was really going down. A smaller club service oriented in Frankfurt area could be ROM.
Claudia, the girls with fantastic abs from the LR works now in Babylon under the name 'Flori'.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2070116]Claudia, the girls with fantastic abs from the LR works now in Babylon under the name 'Flori'.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the timely update. I must rush to Babylon then. I was trying to decide between Babylon and LR for my next visit.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2070116]Claudia, the girls with fantastic abs from the LR works now in Babylon under the name 'Flori'.[/QUOTE]Lovely Claudia. Ro move too much between LR, Oase and Bab. Beautiful blue eyes and great GFE, LR level, LR is her home for work.
Violetta. Ro is also great GFE.
Sylvi. Hu is now at Sharks as Sade. Also beautiful eyes and friendly.
Many girls started at Bab before moving. To GT for Barbie, Kity / Angel and Natalia.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2070116]Claudia, the girls with fantastic abs from the LR works now in Babylon under the name 'Flori'.[/QUOTE]
And then imagine that Claudia / Flori is "just average" from a service perspective compared to most other Babylon girls! Meaning, she is very nice and good performer, especially compared to many LR girls, but all is relative :) :) :)
I probably told you before but I've never been amazed with the service of the Babylon girls. Among the "stars", I've been with Maya and Kitty and it was good but nothing spectacular. And actually I don't think that Claudia's service is so great.
I forgot, I've been many times with Denisa when she was working at Haus Panthera, and that's the same thing : good but not great.
I'm just curious. Why there s no USA threads on this site?
[QUOTE=BoraBora123;2070800]I'm just curious. Why there s no USA threads on this site?[/QUOTE]Because the US is the land of the free. You know, liberty and all that, pursuit of happiness and whatnot.
[QUOTE=BoraBora123;2070800]I'm just curious. Why there s no USA threads on this site?[/QUOTE]There is a sister site that contains all of the US threads. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/[/URL].
If you click on the front page for ISG, you will see a big fat link to this other web site in the left hand pane.
But just remember: Everything is better in Germany.
[QUOTE=XXL;2070857]Because the US is the land of .... pursuit of happiness [/QUOTE]Pursuit of happiness yes, but not sex.
[QUOTE=XXL;2070857]Because the US is the land of the free. You know, liberty and all that, pursuit of happiness and whatnot.[/QUOTE]France is said to be the land of freedom. True for thinking or writing, but not anymore for paid sex, with clients may be prosecuted. Fortunately, quite impossible with escorts in hotels or apartments.
About Bab, small, blue eyes, Claudia / Kacy / Flori. Ro is higher potential for sex, for woman vagina, than Bab superstar Alexia or top GFE, lovely Violetta. She was among top performer girls at LR when I went with her, I pretty sure she would still be on top anywhere if she likes you, but really easy going with so lovely behavior. Just lack of sensuality, but a real woman. Higher girls for me are those who are prettier and more sensual.
I rushed to Babylon after work yesterday hoping to catch Claudia as BigBuddy reported that she had moved from Oase to Babylon. And what luck! When I was having a quick bite at that high table, there she was, strutting past, body erect, totally naked displaying her 6-pack fully flexed! What a glorious sight. In LR, she was usually found clothed, and hunched on one of the sofas smoking. I abandoned my meal and grabbed her immediately before someone else could.
The session with her was as good as ever. To me, it matches the best I have had in Babylon from the other girls. Perhaps, some others found her lacking as she is not as bubbly as many of the Babylon girls (like Viotetta or Karla) and often looks doleful. Or perhaps it is because she does not provide AO like some of the other top girls in Babylon.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2031900]OK, maybe I should give Bella another try in my next visit as she might have improved after moving to Babylon. The fact that I tried her a second time in 2016 showed how attractive I found her, and I was almost tempted to try her again 2 weeks ago. Her BBBJ was certainly excellent. The letdown for me came in the room where, in 2015 and 2016, I found that she could hardly converse in English, could not read what I would like, and smelt like a cigarette factory.[/QUOTE]I wrote the quote above a few months ago.
After my session with Claudia/Flori, I saw Bella coming out of the changing room. She looked prettier than before with good make up rather than the excessively black eyes in the past. So this time, I took her without hesitation.
Indeed, she has improved tremendously. For a start, as she can now speak some English, at least we could communicate. She did not smell like an ashtray this time as smoking is now prohibited inside Babylon. And instead of being passive and mechanical as in the past, she turned on a whirlwind GFE performance as if I were her long-lost lover. She must have been very well trained over the past year as her service was now also faultless. I extended a few times till I was exhausted. What a change a year in Babylon made!
The only unhappiness I had during this short visit was the food. Even though it was raining the whole day, they persisted with the Barbeque food, cooked outside but served indoors in the heated trays. Nothing can be worse than BBQ meat left soaked in oil, and without fragrance, and tough with no juicyness left. The pasta dish was also dismal as the pasta had been left on the tray for so long that it was hard.
Fortunately, having the sessions with those 2 great girls saved the evening, and I left happy (but hungry).
Hello,
I'm headed to Cologne late September and decided that I want to experience FKK this time. From what I've read Babylon has the entire naked experience with good atmosphere and some african girls as well. I already planned to head to Samya.
I have a few questions:
1. Is Friday from 13:00 to maybe 18:00 a good time in Babylon? 18:00 seems to be one of the last times you can get back with public transportation.
2. Entrance is 60€. Are girls 50€/30 min and is there extra for certain thing like DATY?
3. Public sex is apparently okay?
Thank you in advance.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2070116]Claudia, the girls with fantastic abs from the LR works now in Babylon under the name 'Flori'.[/QUOTE]What is fantastic ABS.
[QUOTE=Soundena;2070969]Hello,
I'm headed to Cologne late September and decided that I want to experience FKK this time. From what I've read Babylon has the entire naked experience with good atmosphere and some african girls as well. I already planned to head to Samya.
I have a few questions:
1. Is Friday from 13:00 to maybe 18:00 a good time in Babylon? 18:00 seems to be one of the last times you can get back with public transportation.
2. Entrance is 60. Are girls 50/30 min and is there extra for certain thing like DATY?
3. Public sex is apparently okay?
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Friday 13-18 is Ok. Babylon is a dayclub so many girls arrive early. I was there in daytime on a Monday a couple weeks ago, and even early on a Monday was good (with Violetta and Emelie). Of course it is even better in the evening, but if daytime is your only option. Go gor it!
Yes it's 50 E for 30 min. I have never paid extra fort DATY.
Public sex is OK (with some girls).
Have fun!
T.
[QUOTE=Hendricus;2070987]What is fantastic ABS.[/QUOTE]Abs = a frequently used phrase in English for "abdominal muscles" otherwise referred to as a "six pack. "
[QUOTE=Soundena;2070969] 18:00 seems to be one of the last times you can get back with public transportation.[/QUOTE]No. The last no. 963 bus from the Gut Neuenhof stop, which is just 2 minutes walk from Babylon, leaves at 20:01, reaches Konigsdorf bahnhof at 20:38, giving you enough time to catch the 20:50 S13 train. Will reach Koln hbf at 21:10. You therefore have 2 more hours at Babylon than you thought!
One tip: when getting onto the bus, buy the ticket to go to Koln (rather than Konigsdorf) costing €7.80, so that you need not have to waste time buying another ticket for the train at Konigsdorf.
Public sex can be done in the rear part of the lounge downstairs, and also on 3 flat couches on the first floor. I saw plenty in action yesterday on the 1st floor.
It was a warm and sunny late August day last week, with the quetsch hanging on the trees and the feeling of the summer holidays drawing to a close. All in all, time for an FKK visit to round off the summer.
And so to Babylon Elsdorf, for my first visit. Babylon has a good website which gives the programme up to two weeks in advance, with some photos of most of the girls expected to be there. It also lists their main specialities, prices and there is a review forum, which are helpful in planning a visit.
Babylon is easy to find; its a large house in a mixed light industrial area on the edge of town, with plenty of discreet parking behind it. Paid my 60 Euro, changed and found myself in a large ground floor, divided between a bar and buffet area and another, rather darker sitting area. There is also an outdoor area at the front and a new pool and terrace at the back. Food was OK; schnitzel and salad at lunchtime and barbecue in the evening.
The website had promised around 35 girls, and most of the girls listed were in attendance. No absolute stunners in my view, but no ugly girls either; no heavy girls. Mostly Romanian and Bulgarian, with a few Hungarians and others, although Babylon seems to pride itself on normally having 4 or 5 black girls in attendance, so there is probably someone to suit most tastes. The girls divided between those who tended to sit in the darker rear area and wait, and those who were up and moving around most of the time. Some girls approach you, particularly during the first hour or so, but none of the aggressive 'sharking' that there seems to be in most clubs.
And, of course, they are all stark naked. No towels or dessous here.
I arrived at around 1 o'clock and there ware probably around 20 men there with a steady traffic in and out of the rooms; it busied up later in the afternoon and at around 18:00 there was hardly a girl to be seen. Most of the men seemed to be regulars, and were known to many of the girls. There was little or no couch action, which makes it difficult for newcomers to judge the quality of the different service providers. Regulars chatted to their preferred partners for a while before heading off to a room; with strangers, conversation was normally limited to "Hello" Hello" "Shall we go to a room? So careful homework before a visit, plus watching who the regularly booked girls are, could pay dividends. Incidentally girls at Babylon must sign into and out of the rooms, together with time, which reduces the scope for disputes on how long people have been.
Babylon is just completing what looks like a large garden room or bar facing onto the new pool. As a result, five or six builders were working in and around the new building and on the terrace, alongside middle-aged Germans relaxing on loungers by the pool and a steady stream of naked girls in high heels and nothing else tottering around for a smoke and a flirt. Only in Germany can you find a building site bordering onto a brothel, with nobody seeming to bat an eyelid.
And so to work. First up was Jenny, a small, slightly built Romanian girl of about 19 with an OK face a nd a nice, tight body (with her high heels off she is really petite.). Quick conversation, then off to the room where she gives a decent BJ followed by sex in several positions (no DFK though. None of the Babylon girls seem to do this as standard). I come; an enjoyable, easy start to the afternoon.
Then time to work out a programme for the rest of the day. Several of the girls are 'possibles' but there are no 'must haves' - Valentina, a big-breasted Bulgarian girl with a slightly pneumatic look, Flori, a thin Romanian girls with a slightly sad air; Kitty (a solid-looking Romanian; a shapely tanned girl with firm-looking plastic tits, tan lines and a big floral tattoo; and so on. Then Michaela, a tall, blonde Russian girl arrives. I noticed her enter and happened to pass her downstairs just as she was stripping out of her little grey string. I find the transformation from girl who could pass you on the street to naked woman who will rent you her body quite exciting. Anyway, when I approach her she's booked for her first hour, so pencil her in for later.
Eventually, on a whim, go with Silvia, a tall, black haired Romanian girl, quite thin, with fair sized soft breasts. Probably around 25. She speaks good English, and has a feisty attitude to her. In the room she is friendly and professional, asking me what I want, how I prefer things and so on. Then a long, deep BJ, followed by 69 and sex; then at my request BJ to CIM (extra 25, but worth it). She makes the point that she has come in exactly on the half hour; no attempt to upsell. All in all a good session, and she seems a nice girl. To be repeated if possible.
Then eat a bit and watch the comings and goings. From about 6 o'clock the downstairs area is empty as everybody (except me) seems to be in a room, leaving me at a bit of a loss. As fast as girls come free, they were booked again.
I was just about to give up when Michaela came free. After a quick "Hello, off to the room. Even off her heels she is very tall; long fair hair and blue eyes. She's Russian and recently moved here part-time after working in other NRW clubs. She gave probably the best session of the day; very enjoyable, long BJ with deep throat; ball licking, sex in several positions and then took finger while she BJ'd me to CIM. Just waht I needed by this stage in the day (I was amazed by her absolutely cavernous vagina). Then, as by this stage we were in the second half hour, she did a little back massage, which rounded the day off well.
I'm reminded of how enjoyable and relaxing an afternoon in an FKK can be, and will certainly visitBabylon again. Its a pity couch action in FKKs seems to be a thing of the past, but that will simply strengthen the value of boards like this one to share knowledge.
[QUOTE=GeorgeBickham;2079726]And so to Babylon Elsdorf, for my first visit.[/QUOTE]
You must have been "unlucky" regarding the kissing. Most of the times the girls DFK.
And please avoid to name girls who gives sevices they are not supposed to give after 1/7 2017. It is not to their advantage.
T.
[QUOTE=Tjohoo;2079772]
And please avoid to name girls who gives services they are not supposed to give after 1/7 2017. It is not to their advantage.
T.[/QUOTE]This is a good point. No sense in causing problems for good providers. If a name is provided, then the description of services should be without comment as to the covered or uncovered nature of the service.
Sorry. I would happily edit the report if I can work out how to.
[QUOTE=Tjohoo;2079772]You must have been "unlucky" regarding the kissing. Most of the times the girls DFK.
And please avoid to name girls who gives sevices they are not supposed to give after 1/7 2017. It is not to their advantage.
T.[/QUOTE]Really surprising about DFK which is one of Bab specialty, even on public on couch. But at least could get CIM in condom, according to new law which is about forbidden to ask for BBBJ or AO, but not if girl wants to give You pleasure because she likes You.
Bab staff read forums, so, try not to make problems to good girls.
[QUOTE=GeorgeBickham;2079938]Sorry. I would happily edit the report if I can work out how to.[/QUOTE]No need to clarify. Of course you and they followed the law and your CIMs were with the condoms in place.
There are indeedjust a few girls who don't offer DFK in Babylon (Jenny and maybe 1 or 2 more), they can be avoided (and like a in the past, these girls should be encouraged to leave).
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2080044]No need to clarify. Of course you and they followed the law and your CIMs were with the condoms in place.[/QUOTE]Or he did just CIM / CIF without physically touching his male part to the woman's mouth / face, it must be possible and then it is legal :) LOL.
[QUOTE=GeorgeBickham;2079726]
Quick conversation, then off to the room where she gives a decent BJ followed by sex in several positions (no DFK though. None of the Babylon girls seem to do this as standard).[/QUOTE]Salaam, George Bickham. Thanks for the very informative update on Babylon. I'm glad you had a good time. Though it is a bit disturbing to hear about the lack of DFK, couch action, and conversation. In the days I used to go there, these things were standard. Babylon is a bit far out in the countryside, so I'm not sure if it is worthwhile going all that way any more when many of us have better options.
I think if you do go, you will get a better level of service if you chat with a girl longer to make sure you have chemistry. I remember turning down Jenny at Babylon because she seemed in such an awful rush.
[B]Did you know Babylon Sauna Club Elsdorf is one of the true "German FKK Clubs"?[/B]
Robes are not provided by the club and most of the time the women are totally naked.
[B]Saunaclub Babylon[/B]
Oststrae 10 50189 Elsdorf 02274-905588.
Website [URL]https://www.saunaclub-babylon.com[/URL]
[B]Hours[/B]
Sundays to Thursdays 11 am - 12 Midnight.
Friday. Saturday 11 am - 1 am.
[B]Entry[/B]
Free 10 Minutes to have a quick look.
30 Euro 60 Minutes.
60 Euro Entire Day.
[B]ADDITIONAL FKK CLUB TOUR INFO:[/B]
FKK [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/events/]Club Event Calendar[/URL]
[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/what/]What's an FKK Club [/URL]Explained
Trip Planning,[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/plan/] things to know before you go[/URL]
Read a Testimonial from a [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/customers-perspective/]Customer's Perspective[/URL]
What do the women look like [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/women/]Check out our actual women photo section[/URL]
Check out our new [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/clubs/]Inside the Clubs Videos section[/URL]
FAQ Common FKK Club Tour [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/faq/]Questions and Answers[/URL]
FKK Club [URL=http://fkktour.com/fkkclubgirl/]Girl of the Month[/URL]
The Original FKK Club Tour [URL=fkktour.com]Website[/URL]
[QUOTE=GeorgeBickham;2079726]Its a pity couch action in FKKs seems to be a thing of the past, but that will simply strengthen the value of boards like this one to share knowledge.[/QUOTE]Thanks George for such a thoughtful report. Very informative. Just wanted to make an observation about the couch action. It's been my experience at Babs that the later into the evening it gets, the more likely the couches are to start heating up. My own theory is that, because it's such a friendly club, by the standards of the industry anyway, many of the girls feel comfortable enough to have a few drinks as the day progresses into evening, and everyone starts to get relaxed enough that they start going at it on the couch.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2080190]Salaam, George Bickham. Thanks for the very informative update on Babylon. I'm glad you had a good time. Though it is a bit disturbing to hear about the lack of DFK, couch action, and conversation. In the days I used to go there, these things were standard. Babylon is a bit far out in the countryside, so I'm not sure if it is worthwhile going all that way any more when many of us have better options.
I think if you do go, you will get a better level of service if you chat with a girl longer to make sure you have chemistry. I remember turning down Jenny at Babylon because she seemed in such an awful rush.[/QUOTE]As I wrote, most girls still offer DFK (as well as legal couch action), and girls like Jenny have to be avoided (also in her own interest).
[QUOTE=Maxime;2080506]Jenny have to be avoided (also in her own interest).[/QUOTE]What do you mean? Avoided? In her own interest?
T.
[QUOTE=GeorgeBickham;2079726]It was a warm and sunny late August day last week, with the quetsch hanging on the trees and the feeling of the summer holidays drawing to a close. All in all, time for an FKK visit to round off the summer.
And so to Babylon Elsdorf, for my first visit. Babylon has a good website which gives the programme up to two weeks in advance, with some photos of most of the girls expected to be there. It also lists their main specialities, prices and there is a review forum, which are helpful in planning a visit.
Babylon is easy to find; its a large house in a mixed light industrial area on the edge of town, with plenty of discreet parking behind it. Paid my 60 Euro, changed and found myself in a large ground floor, divided between a bar and buffet area and another, rather darker sitting area. There is also an outdoor area at the front and a new pool and terrace at the back. Food was OK; schnitzel and salad at lunchtime and barbecue in the evening.
The website had promised around 35 girls, and most of the girls listed were in attendance. No absolute stunners in my view, but no ugly girls either; no heavy girls. Mostly Romanian and Bulgarian, with a few Hungarians and others, although Babylon seems to pride itself on normally having 4 or 5 black girls in attendance, so there is probably someone to suit most tastes. The girls divided between those who tended to sit in the darker rear area and wait, and those who were up and moving around most of the time. Some girls approach you, particularly during the first hour or so, but none of the aggressive 'sharking' that there seems to be in most clubs.
And, of course, they are all stark naked. No towels or dessous here..[/QUOTE]Very good that couch action has gone, for me 0 erotic to see mostly a fat and belly guys fucking a sweet girl and behaving like a animal just because a guy with a standard erotic will not do this.
[B]Adele-Caribbean Dream[/B]
27 years young, black hair, 172 cm (5' 8") tall, 56 kg (123 lb.) light, brown eyes, cup 75 see, completely shaved. Adele speaks fluent Spanish and some English.
[U]Adeles playing styles[/U]
*Passive sex games.
*Bisexual.
*Body to Body.
*Women and couples.
*Submissive.
*Dildo play.
*Dominant.
*Licking balls.
*Oral.
*69.
*Girlfriend for threesome.
*Foot fetish.
*Facial.
*Bonding testicles.
*Testicular massage.
*Cosplay.
*Cum on body.
*Lesbian Games *.
*Massage.
*Fingering.
*NS Active *.
*Nylons & Garters.
*Cuddling.
*Spanish.
*Striptease.
*DFK.
[B]Where She Works:[/B]
Babylon FKK Saunaclub.
Street Address:
Oststrasse 10.
50189.
Elsdorf.
Tel. :+49 2274 905588.
[URL=http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com]Babylon Website[/URL]
[B]ADDITIONAL FKK CLUB TOUR INFO:[/B]
[URL=http://fkktour.com/fkkclubgirl]FKK Club Girl of the Month Girls[/URL]
FKK [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/events/]Club Event Calendar[/URL].
[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/what/]What's an FKK Club [/URL]Explained.
Trip Planning,[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/plan/]things to know before you go[/URL].
Read a Testimonial from a [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/customers-perspective/]Customer's Perspective[/URL].
What do the women look like [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/women/]Check out our actual women photo section[/URL].
Check out our new [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/clubs/]Inside the Clubs Videos section[/URL].
FAQ Common FKK Club Tour [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/faq/]Questions and Answers[/URL].
FKK Club [URL=http://fkktour.com/fkkclubgirl/]Girl of the Month[/URL].
The Original FKK Club Tour [URL=fkktour.com]Website[/URL].
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I was visiting Koln so decided to try FKK Babylon. This was my first visit to the club. Overall impression was fair. There really were not many girls when I went to visit mid-week. I think I paid 60 euro entry. The place is fairly small, which isn't in itself bad, but when there are not enough girls it gets boring. The food is adequate. They had a number of warm foods and salad. I liked that they had some mini candy bars (Kit Kats) so that was good for my sweet tooth. There was one really nice looking thin blond and she partnered up with her dark haired friend. They were both from Romania. The blond was a solid 7/10 with a nice body and the friend was a 5/10. I took both back to the room since they were comfortable with kissing and licking, etc. In the room we all kissed and I could kiss one girl and then the other, then back again. Both girls gave me a blow job at the same time. I was able to perform DATY on both girls, again jumping from one pussy to the other and back, as well as rimming each girl to my fill. During the rimming sessions the girls would stick their finger in my ass and finger fuck me. That felt pretty good. I got a good long fucking from each girl. They did want me to change condoms during intercourse. We finished the session with a double hand job while I watched. Cost for one hour: 200 euro. They also told me afterwards that it was an extra 25 euro each for the finger fucking. I didn't argue, so total damage was 250 euro. I had a nice time. I really wanted to have sex again but couldn't find another girl available that I liked physically. Doubtful that I will return.
Shucks! The thing I like most about Babylon is gone. No more schedule in their website to let you know the dates the girls would be working.
One of the girls told me that it was taken down because something in the 1st July law prohibits it.
Yes, if they let it on the website girls could be considered as employees of the club.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2093838]Yes, if they let it on the website girls could be considered as employees of the club.[/QUOTE]Partyl true: if you show a schedule of girls that will be present in the future (it indeed can be considered as "employmentship", but if, on the day itself, show which girls are currently (present, than it is just communication the actual facts and therefore allowed. This is how Sakura, Parksauna Residenz, Neby, etc are doing it (legally).
Babylon's website is completely redesigned (and trasnferred to another domain as you can see already) and a kind of (legal) presentation list of the actual day is in the making.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2093771]Shucks! The thing I like most about Babylon is gone. No more schedule in their website to let you know the dates the girls would be working.
One of the girls told me that it was taken down because something in the 1st July law prohibits it.[/QUOTE]Direct link to the schedule.
[URL]https://www.saunaclubs.org/modelle/saunaclub-babylon/anwesenheit.php[/URL]
It appears that the new website is slowly being built out. There's more info available today than there was two days ago, like the "girls according to service" section.
[B]Karla-Convertible Bimbo[/B]
21 years young, blond hair, 156 cm (5'1") tall, 50 kg (110 lb.) light, green eyes, cup 75 B, completely shaved. Karla speaks German, English and Spanish.
[U]Karla's playing styles[/U]
[LIST]
Dildo play
BDSM
Body to body
Women and couples
Doctor Games
Dominant*
Licking balls
Face-Sitting
Bondage Games
Oral
69
Foot fetish
Testicular massage
Cum on body
Lesbian Games *
Massage
Fingering pussy
Nylons & Suspenders
Smoking
Role Playing*
Cuddle
Slave*
Spanish
Spit
Striptease
Strapon*
Verbal eroticism
Analingus
DFK
Massage[/LIST]
Where she works:
[URL=http://www.saunaclub-babylon.net/]Babylon Website[/URL]
Street Address:
Oststrae 10.
50189 Elsdorf.
Tel. :+49 2274 905588.
[B]ADDITIONAL FKK CLUB TOUR INFO:[/B]
FKK [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/events/]Club Event Calendar[/URL].
[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/what/]What's an FKK Club [/URL]Explained.
Trip Planning,[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/plan/] things to know before you go[/URL].
Read a Testimonial from a [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/customers-perspective/]Customer's Perspective[/URL].
What do the women look like [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/women/]Check out our actual women photo section[/URL].
Check out our new [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/clubs/]Inside the Clubs Videos section[/URL].
FAQ Common FKK Club Tour [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/faq/]Questions and Answers[/URL].
FKK Club [URL=http://fkktour.com/fkkclubgirl/]Girl of the Month[/URL].
The Original FKK Club Tour [URL=fkktour.com]Website[/URL].
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[QUOTE=FKKTOUR;2096294]We have exclusive permission from both ISG and Babylon to post these Girl of the Month items. We hope that this provides readers of the forum with a spotlight on the club and the girls who work there.[/QUOTE]I am here to read about people's first hand experiences with the club and the girls, your posts don't belong here.
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[QUOTE=FreeDude;2096390]Well, it doesn't. Could you please stop the spamming.[/QUOTE]You could just put them on your ignore list.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;2096390]Well, it doesn't. Could you please stop the spamming.[/QUOTE]Well if it was any other club than Babylon you might get away with calling it spam. This is the Babytlon thread? However people post photos of their favorite girls on other pages so I don't see the problem. If you don't like it just ignore it, I do the same to posts that make no sense or have no value. It does help lurkers and others who may consider going to the club get an idea of current available girls. I think it's a good idea, keep them coming to each his own.
Maybe Babylon has some influence on websites. I heard that the Frenchman with the prolific number of posts was banned from the French forum due to a complaint from Babylon. Which is why he is now active in this forum to annoy Pussylickker with his constant posts on the lineup at World although he probably visited it only twice this whole year.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2096710]Maybe Babylon has some influence on websites. I heard that the Frenchman with the prolific number of posts was banned from the French forum due to a complaint from Babylon. Which is why he is now active in this forum to annoy Pussylickker with his constant posts on the lineup at World although he probably visited it only twice this whole year.[/QUOTE]He was banned bc he was pissing everyone off, especially the moderators who were going nuts with him. They let him come back with a new nickname many times but in the end he was kicked out permanently. Some members left the board bc of him.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2096782]He was banned bc he was pissing everyone off, especially the moderators who were going nuts with him. They let him come back with a new nickname many times but in the end he was kicked out permanently. Some members left the board bc of him.[/QUOTE]I came back only once, but maybe I got too interesting informations about 2 forum owners behavior at Bab, from some girls who left.
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[BLUE]The ISG is a commercial for-profit web site. All of us here love hookers, so it's also a labor of love but at the end of the day those hookers want to get paid and we have bills so we have to make money.
We let people who give us a lot of money put the occasional post on the forum. Those posts have requirements, they need to be topical and provide information of value. For some of you this may come as a surprise but yes, on a commercial web site sponsors can indeed pay for access. If we somehow hid the fact that we were motivated by profit it might be kind of douchey to let them but we don't so it's not.
While reviewing this thread I took into consideration members who had ever bought a subscription before throwing flags, nobody who complained had so no issue. I also looked at the column space. The guys complaining had taken up 4 times the amount of space complaining about a post than the space the original post took, so your argument that you want to be able to read a thread without spam is specious, when you, as a group, took up four times the space with the complaints. So I threw the flags for arguing, then added the poster that seemed to cause you so much mental harm on your ignore list. Their posts won't be bothering you anymore.
For a site like ours to flourish we need three things. These are not a hierarchy, we need all three things [b]equally[/b] [list]Content providers- These are the guys who post reports, why we need them is obvious, without content there's no site.[/list][list]Content consumers- These are what is known as lurkers, they get a bad rap. All sites like ours have around 9-10 times as many guys who lurk as participate, we need them because they are our real traffic, with out them we don't get the next group.[/list][list]Advertisers- Pretty obvious, these are the people who wish to put their message in front of the [b]ENTIRE[/b] group of people who come to our site. We need them, without them the bills don't get paid. Without them (this is for the content providers) there is no site for you to post on.[/list]
We wish subscriptions alone could do it, but we don't make subscriptions mandatory and even at the ridiculously low number we ask (seriously, the price isn't about the enhanced services, it's a way for people who wish to demonstrate the value of the utility they get from the forum, at 20 bucks a year it's a tip jar for crying out loud) we don't have anywhere near enough participation to operate the forum. So that means advertisers.
In any event, as always, if you don't like the content that somebody posts be a grownup, add them to your ignore list because nobody wants to read about how traumatic having to scroll past a post you didn't like was. I'm serious about that, absolutely nobody cares how butthurt you were, they are here for the pussy.
Hope this helps,
A2[/BLUE]
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2096710]Maybe Babylon has some influence on websites. I heard that the Frenchman with the prolific number of posts was banned from the French forum due to a complaint from Babylon. Which is why he is now active in this forum to annoy Pussylickker with his constant posts on the lineup at World although he probably visited it only twice this whole year.[/QUOTE]Complaint from Babylon? When I visited on end of March 2017. Violeta asked me to bring her a present from Paris, I bought it for 4€, but didn't return to her. Ask Sade. Hu at Sharks, ex Silvia Bab.
I m as welcome at Bab than at Sharks and any other club in FKK land, and no girl from any club never complained about me, when most ask if I want to repeat, repeating with some many times for many months, as a weekly repeating specialist.
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My third visit to Babylon, on a Thursday in late October.
I am starting to like Babylon. It has a good atmosphere, the food is OK, and particularly in the summer the outside is enjoyable. Arrived around 1 o'clock; around 30 girls there, stark naked as usual. Around 30 men. Some of the girls wander around, others sit waiting, but there's no real hassle from any of them. Bab became very busy by around 5 o'clock, with most of the girls taken as quickly as they came free. As previously, many of the men were regulars; also had a chat with the owner who clearly comes to chat at the bar quite regularly (fully clothed) to keep an eye on things.
I recognise some regular faces amongst the girls; there are three or four new girls and some notable absences from last time (Marina, for example). Amongst new arrivals the most promising seems to be Kendra, a medium-sized quite solidly build young lady who has since had good reviews on another website.
I had planned to start with Eva or Dolli, both of whom had caught my eye last time. But just as I was ready to look for one of them, they both went off for waht proved to be long sessions. I had noticed another quite tall dark-haired girl and so eventually went with Lulu.
I should have realised that this would be a mistake before I approached her, partly from a lack of contact and partly from rather crude tattoos ("Lulu" and " on her side. If the warning signs weren't clear enough, she signed into the room five minutes ahead of time and went for the furthest room.
Once in the room she did a short BJ with hand to make sure she didn't go too deep, lay back in a detached way to be licked but wouldn't take finger and didn't think of 69 and then lay back for sex. At the end, she must have realised that it had been only 25 minutes and so hung back to SMS someone in the hope of claiming the second half hour. I chased her out. I don't pay for SMS time. Overall a very poor performance, and she doesn't seem to be on the roster any more, which would be a positive development.
Some discussions and thoughts on my next move. Eventually go with Naomi, a tall, attractive ebony lady with shoulder length hair. She more than made up for the disappointment with Lulu, with lots of DFK, a slow and very enjoyable BJ and sex in various positions. Overall very enjoyable and to be repeated. Incidentally, Naomi looks very much like fellow worker Maria, whom I have not yet tried.
By now Babylon was getting very busy, and it was a question of either moving fast off going home. Unfortunately Dolli was taken, although we had a very enjoyable conversation. She seems really friendly and engaged, and would definitely be on my list for my next visit. Instead did an average session with Katja, who did an extremely unsubtle upsell late in the session.
I stayed at the Haus Hubertus which was warm and clean, with a good breakfast, and around 20 minutes walk away.
[QUOTE=GeorgeBickham;2106375]Unfortunately Dolli was taken, although we had a very enjoyable conversation. She seems really friendly and engaged, and would definitely be on my list for my next visit. [/QUOTE]Dolli is really friendly and engaged, and should definitely be on your list for your next visit. She delivers good sex and good fun!
T.
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A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Whoa. Don't remember the last time a ISG mod had to come out like this.
Last Sunday I spent a happy afternoon at Babylon.
I artived by S-Bahn and bus from Kln, a trip of about one hour. Around noon-time there were less than 10 men in the club and most of women were sitting and talking and hoping someone would choose them.
I quickly spotted the only African lady present and asked if I could sit with her. She seemed quite happy to be chosen and told me het name was Kelly and that she came from Ghana. ([URL]https://www.saunaclubs.org/modelle/saunaclub-babylon/632.php[/URL]) She told me this was her second time in Babylon.
Her pre-sales are very good. It didn't take long before she started kissing and allowed me to fondle her breasts (large B or small C size) only slighly sagging but with very sensitive and pointy nipples. Just the way I like it! Her hands explored beneath my towel and I quickly decided to take her to a room.
Then followed a one hour two pop episode of GFE. One pop in missionary while DFK-ing her and a second in cowgirl playing with her nipples and tits.
Later that afternoon I ivited her to the wellness room and we had a jolly 30 minutes iin the jacuzzi, kissing, sucking her tits, fingering her pussy and getting half a hand job. Enough to get both horny and look for another room. I licked her pussy until she came and then I fucked her in doggy-style with her flat on her belly which made her pussy very tight and a fourth pop that day was my reward (I did another room with Gaby in the afternoon).
This was another nice afternoon in Babylon, thanks to the talent of the Chocomuse!
[B]Daria - Very slender southerner[/B]
18 years old, red-haired, 163 cm (5'4") tall, 47 kg (104 lb) light, brown eyes, cup size 75 A, completely shaved. Daria speaks a little English.
[U]Daria's Playing Styles[/U]
[LIST]
Body to Body
Ladies and Couples
Submissive
Dildogames
Threesome
Ball licking
Oral
69
Facials
Cum on body
Smoke
Cuddling
DFK
Oil massage [/LIST]
Where She Works:
More detailed info about her club:
Babylon FKK Saunaclub.
Street Address:
Oststrasse 10.
50189 Elsdorf.
Tel. :+49 2274 905588.
[URL=http://www.saunaclubs.org/]Website[/URL]
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FAQ Common FKK Club Tour [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/faq/]Questions and Answers[/URL].
FKK Club [URL=http://fkktour.com/fkkclubgirl/]Girl of the Month[/URL].
The Original FKK Club Tour [URL=fkktour.com]Website[/URL].
[B]Dolli - Great woman, sexy and intelligent[/B]
24 years young, brown hair, 163 cm (5'4") tall, 50 kg (110 lb.) light, green eyes, cup size 70 A, completely shaved. Dolli is fluent in English and Spanish, as well as good Italian.
[B]Dolli's Playing Styles:[/B]
[LIST]
Oral
69
Testicles massage
Massage
Fingering
Cuddle
Dirty talk
DFK
Oil Massage [/LIST]
Where She Works:
More detailed info about her club:
Babylon FKK Saunaclub.
Street Address:
Oststrasse 10.
50189 Elsdorf.
Tel. :+49 2274 905588.
[URL=http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com]Babylon Website[/URL]
[B]ADDITIONAL FKK CLUB TOUR INFO:[/B]
FKK [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/events/]Club Event Calendar[/URL].
[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/what/]What's an FKK Club [/URL]Explained.
Trip Planning,[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/plan/] things to know before you go[/URL].
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FAQ Common FKK Club Tour [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/faq/]Questions and Answers[/URL].
FKK Club [URL=http://fkktour.com/fkkclubgirl/]Girl of the Month[/URL].
The Original FKK Club Tour [URL=fkktour.com]Website[/URL].
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Babylon as now a new sauna and jacuzzi; together with the outside pool the wellness is now complete and exellent. Real FKK (all girls naked every day), BBBJ still possible and free beer. No upselling like in the Hessen Clubs.
Entry is 60 euro, but if you pay 10 times the 11th entry is for free: just ask the receptionist. 60 euro is not cheap but it's worth every cent. Best days are Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Forget Sunday.
Babylon is a day club : closing time is at midnight.
In the middle of last year, the thing I like most about Babylon, the planned attendance list in their website disappeared.
After about 2 months, a new website appeared (not under the official Babylon website) that purports to be providing infomation on the whereabouts of girls in that region, but it actually only includes girls from Babylon and another club I have never heard of.
It is quite an ingenious way to keep within the law. Instead of a present and an absent list, they have a list of 'independent' girls planning to be in Babylon, and a list of girls who are elsewhere but who might return to their original site (i.e. Babylon) one day.
I would be grateful if anyone can provide information on whether these lists are accurate, as the lists in previous weeks seem rather odd and duplicative. Maybe the club no longer manages the list due to the new law and leaves it to the girls to randomly update?
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2131688]In the middle of last year, the thing I like most about Babylon, the planned attendance list in their website disappeared.
After about 2 months, a new website appeared (not under the official Babylon website) that purports to be providing infomation on the whereabouts of girls in that region, but it actually only includes girls from Babylon and another club I have never heard of.
It is quite an ingenious way to keep within the law. Instead of a present and an absent list, they have a list of 'independent' girls planning to be in Babylon, and a list of girls who are elsewhere but who might return to their original site (i.e. Babylon) one day.
I would be grateful if anyone can provide information on whether these lists are accurate, as the lists in previous weeks seem rather odd and duplicative. Maybe the club no longer manages the list due to the new law and leaves it to the girls to randomly update?[/QUOTE]I was there 2 weeks ago and the AWL was totally wrong. Girls that were supposed to be there weren't and girls that were supposed to be not there were. Of course this was just after the holiday season so I guess a level of unpredictability probably still existed and it may well have settled down now. My buddy spoke to Eddy the owner about it and he got the impression that the club does indeed still manage the list.
[QUOTE=MrBluenose;2131790]I was there 2 weeks ago and the AWL was totally wrong. Girls that were supposed to be there weren't and girls that were supposed to be not there were. [/QUOTE]Thank you. I was trying to find out if 2 - 3 of my favorite girls would be present to make it worthwhile for me to go all the way there. When you were there, did you happen to see Flori, Aranca, Maria, Angel or Naomi? And I presume Violetta is gone as she told me end last year that she would probably not be returning to Babylon?
Violetta has been spotted in 6 sense. With a bunch of other Babylon girls.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2131838]Violetta has been spotted in 6 sense. With a bunch of other Babylon girls.[/QUOTE]There is a endless move from the same girls from one club to another, from one country to another or from escort to apartment and clubs, I believe that in fact there are probably.
Several thousands of girls only really active in the P6 scene in Germany, when a girl is prostitute for more than 1 year usually she will no more be able to quit for a normal job hopefully some achieve it.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2131793]Thank you. I was trying to find out if 2 - 3 of my favorite girls would be present to make it worthwhile for me to go all the way there. When you were there, did you happen to see Flori, Aranca, Maria, Angel or Naomi? And I presume Violetta is gone as she told me end last year that she would probably not be returning to Babylon?[/QUOTE]Maria was the only one that was there that day and as BigBuddy says Violetta, along with Emma, Sophia and Eva are all now plying their trade in Sixsens. Eddy seemed to reckon that there would be a load of new girls coming sometime in February so we will see how that works out.
[QUOTE=MrBluenose;2131903]Maria was the only one that was there that day and as BigBuddy says Violetta, along with Emma, Sophia and Eva are all now plying their trade in Sixsens. Eddy seemed to reckon that there would be a load of new girls coming sometime in February so we will see how that works out.[/QUOTE]My bad it was Mara that was there that day not Maria. I think Bulgarian Maria has retired from the game.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2131838]Violetta has been spotted in 6 sense. With a bunch of other Babylon girls.[/QUOTE]Excellent reason to return to 6 ens. NL, for cute, so sweet GFE Violetta, I still have her 4 € present from Paris in my car, even I never returned to her since end of March when I made her cry, I won't give to anybody else, it s hers.
Bluenose, thanks a lot. But I was referring to the pretty Cuban Maria. I had a brief word with the Bulgarian Maria once, but she but she wass rather rude, so no loss.
Is the Eve whom you mention had left the short cute teeny looking girl, or the very very slim one? I liked both.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2132058]Bluenose, thanks a lot. But I was referring to the pretty Cuban Maria. I had a brief word with the Bulgarian Maria once, but she but she wass rather rude, so no loss.
Is the Eve whom you mention had left the short cute teeny looking girl, or the very very slim one? I liked both.[/QUOTE]You are welcome mate. Eva was formerly Anna at Planet Eden, quite slim with smallish breasts and nice looking. I never roomed with her at Bab but at Eden I did and I found her service to be very good. As you say the Bulgarian Maria is no big loss and the Cuban one looks an interesting prospect. My buddy took her in the kino and it looked as if he was enjoying himself!
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2131838]Violetta has been spotted in 6 sense. With a bunch of other Babylon girls.[/QUOTE]"After seventy years in Babylonian captivity, the handmaidens began a reverse migration".
Lo, this was already prophesied on the freiercafe Babylon thread (May 22 of last year). And yea even in the Book of ISG:
[URL] http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?747-German-Border&p=2064148#post2064148[/URL]
[B]Claudia - Gorgeous grace, likes anal sex and sperm kisses[/B]
27 years young, black-haired, 160 cm (5'3") tall, 50 kg (110 lbs.) light, blue eyes, cup size 75 A, completely shaved. *Claudia speaks English, French and some German.
Claudia's Playing Styles.
[LIST]
Anal massage
Anal play active
Anal play passive
anal intercourse *
Body to Body
Ladies and Couples
Deep throat
Submissive
Dominant*
Threesomes
Ball licking
Oral
69
Girlfriend for threesome
foot fetish
testicular massage
cum on body
Lesbian games *
massage
pussy fingering
cuddling
Sperm tongue kisses *
Tongue anal active *
Tongue passive
French kissing
oil massage[/LIST]
Where She Works:
More detailed info about her club:
Babylon FKK Saunaclub.
Street Address:
Oststrasse 10.
50189 Elsdorf.
Tel. :+49 2274 905588.
[URL=http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com]Babylon Website[/URL]
[B]ADDITIONAL FKK CLUB TOUR INFO:[/B]
FKK [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/events/]Club Event Calendar[/URL].
[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/what/]What's an FKK Club [/URL]Explained.
Trip Planning,[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/plan/] things to know before you go[/URL].
Read a Testimonial from a [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/customers-perspective/]Customer's Perspective[/URL].
What do the women look like [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/women/]Check out our actual women photo section[/URL].
Check out our new [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/clubs/]Inside the Clubs Videos section[/URL].
FAQ Common FKK Club Tour [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/faq/]Questions and Answers[/URL].
FKK Club [URL=http://fkktour.com/fkkclubgirl/]Girl of the Month[/URL].
The Original FKK Club Tour [URL=fkktour.com]Website[/URL].
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Does anyone know if Dolli was also part of the exodus at the end of last year? She has not been on the list for a few weeks.
And does anyone have experience of regular part-timers Johanna and Mila?
According to some guys on youppie she left but I don't know where.
[QUOTE=GeorgeBickham;2135880]Does anyone know if Dolli was also part of the exodus at the end of last year? She has not been on the list for a few weeks.
And does anyone have experience of regular part-timers Johanna and Mila?[/QUOTE]Dolli is still at Babylon.
Yes a guy just confirmed she was there yesterday.
So. I have a silly question. How do the towels work? In the years I've been visiting the NRW clubs they only have robes. So simple right? Who doesn't know how to work a robe? But this trip I'm planning on going to Babylon. I have a short list of women there I want to try to meet up with, but I've never worn the "towel". How does this thing work? Is it just the standard wrap and tuck or is there some sort of velcro or belt mechanism?
TIA.
[QUOTE=TorrentChief;2136209]So. I have a silly question. How do the towels work? In the years I've been visiting the NRW clubs they only have robes. So simple right? Who doesn't know how to work a robe? But this trip I'm planning on going to Babylon. I have a short list of women there I want to try to meet up with, but I've never worn the "towel". How does this thing work? Is it just the standard wrap and tuck or is there some sort of velcro or belt mechanism?
TIA.[/QUOTE]Towels to dry after shower. Some girls like to take towel wrapped around you, because they are full naked at Bab, or some to have your smell, like I enjoyed Lucy perfume after she rubbed on my robe at GT on last Saturday when she came to me, but I didn't want to go with her, when so many ran after her.
[QUOTE=TorrentChief;2136209]So. I have a silly question. How do the towels work? In the years I've been visiting the NRW clubs they only have robes. So simple right? Who doesn't know how to work a robe? But this trip I'm planning on going to Babylon. I have a short list of women there I want to try to meet up with, but I've never worn the "towel". How does this thing work? Is it just the standard wrap and tuck or is there some sort of velcro or belt mechanism?
TIA.[/QUOTE]You are given 1 large standard towel to wrap and tuck, and 1 very small towel to dry yourself after showering. There are repacement small towels.
You can bring your own bathrobe, towels etc.
Thanks gents!
[QUOTE=Mechelen;2136048]Dolli is still at Babylon.[/QUOTE]We had a nice time in a room together a few hours ago. Dolli supernice as always, but today not wearing her red high heels. She is one of the optic high lights at Babylon.
The line up is thin right now. Theke said that 27 girls was present. Its around 20 fewer then in December. I also had a really good room with Karla, first time for me. What a nice girl, and with good service.
I talked to Paris, Rebekka and Laura. If I only had been younger I would have made more rooms.
I also spotted a few girls that are not on the web-list that was present.
I missed Violetta (Sixens) Jenny (vacation) and Emilia (left the busines).
[QUOTE=George Bickham;2135880]And does anyone have experience of regular part-timers Johanna and Mila?[/QUOTE]
I was lucky to get a session with Johanna in december. She is very popular and hard to grab. Very smart girl with high service level. She is a good kisser, but dislikes smokers. She asked me before the room if I smoked? When I said No she told me that she really likes to kiss during sex, but hates to kiss smokers. Highly recommended pale red hed from the Netherlands.
T.
I read on another forum that Jenny is now at Park Sauna Residenz.
[QUOTE=Tjohoo;2136433]We had a nice time in a room together a few hours ago. Dolli supernice as always, but today not wearing her red high heels. She is one of the optic high lights at Babylon.
The line up is thin right now. Theke said that 27 girls was present. Its around 20 fewer then in December. I also had a really good room with Karla, first time for me. What a nice girl, and with good service.
I talked to Paris, Rebekka and Laura. If I only had been younger I would have made more rooms.
I also spotted a few girls that are not on the web-list that was present.
I missed Violetta (Sixens) Jenny (vacation) and Emilia (left the busines).
I was lucky to get a session with Johanna in december. She is very popular and hard to grab. Very smart girl with high service level. She is a good kisser, but dislikes smokers. She asked me before the room if I smoked? When I said No she told me that she really likes to kiss during sex, but hates to kiss smokers. Highly recommended pale red hed from the Netherlands.
T.[/QUOTE]Reduced LU, aging girls the same is happening in most of the clubs except Oase and Shark in both clubs I saw new and fresh girls. But poor service for 50 euros. I was also not really impressed by the LU of Samya last Sunday which was far better in December. Also most of the girls in several clubs are complaining about a average to poor month of January. Is it the effect of the new law, the weather?
[QUOTE=Mechelen;2137083]I read on another forum that Jenny is now at Park Sauna Residenz.[/QUOTE]She is a big teaser. Every visit, she would smile and wink at me when I pass her in the basement, but when approached, she is always busy with other clients but often just sitting and laughing on the lounge chairs near the sauna. Never had a chance with her yet. Pity as she is very very cute.
[QUOTE=Mechelen;2137083]I read on another forum Gloria At sharks.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know where Gloria Flower Girl where she is working now?
Any info appreciated. Thanks in advance.
[B]Girl of the Month - Alice[/B]
Alice. Loving tender dominance.
27 years young, brunette, 172 cm (5'8") tall, 57 kg (125 lb.) light, brown-green eyes, cup size 75 be, puffy hairstyle: runway. Alice speaks German, English, some French and Italian.
Where She Works:
[B]Babylon FKK Saunaclub[/B]
Street Address:
Oststrasse 10.
50189 Elsdorf.
Tel. :+49 2274 905588.
[URL=http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com]Babylon Website[/URL]
[B]ADDITIONAL FKK CLUB TOUR INFO:[/B]
FKK [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/events/]Club Event Calendar[/URL].
[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/what/]What's an FKK Club [/URL]Explained.
Trip Planning,[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/plan/] things to know before you go[/URL].
Read a Testimonial from a [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/customers-perspective/]Customer's Perspective[/URL].
What do the women look like [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/women/]Check out our actual women photo section[/URL].
Check out our new [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/clubs/]Inside the Clubs Videos section[/URL].
FAQ Common FKK Club Tour [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/faq/]Questions and Answers[/URL].
FKK Club [URL=http://fkktour.com/fkkclubgirl/]Girl of the Month[/URL].
The Original FKK Club Tour [URL=fkktour.com]Website[/URL].
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Up early, and to Babylon, arriving just after 11:00. I'm the first or second male guest in, and around 15 girls are already there, mainly having their breakfasts. Another 15 or so arrive over the next hour, as do a good clutch of men. I haven't been there for a couple of months and there have been some noticeable changes in the line-up. One consequence of the new law is that the ebony element of the line-up is much diminished, which is a pity. No more Kelly or Maria. I recognise Lulu, who seems to have matured and relaxed a lot since my last visit. She has a bit of make-up on and looks relaxed and a lot more comfortable in the job. But this is not enough to erase the memory of an extremely perfunctory (actually downright poor) performance with me in her first couple of weeks. So I don't think I will.
Recognise new MILF Nicolette, who looks like she has a lot of experience. Arrivals over the next hour include Eugenia, looking beautiful as ever, a stunning tall woman with black hair streaked with red called Amira, and Kendra with her geeky glasses. Mara arrives, small and trim, and some other known faces. Several 'unknowns'.
I had hoped to meet Dolli first as she's has been on my 'to do' list for a long time, but there is no sign of her by 12:00. I'm just about to make a move in another direction when she arrives. A quick "Hello, Dolli" (well Hello, Dolli, it's so nice to have you back where you belong.) and the deal is done. Sit back to wait in the bar area while she gets undressed.
When she finally emerges, she is everything I remember that I found attractive and more; smiling, bubbly and good company, with excellent English and a bright personality. We have a chat while she has a drink and mentally 'arrives', then off to the room for an enjoyable and gentle session of GF6. She is affectionate and engaged, and we both enjoy ourselves as he loses her Friday virginity. A relaxing start to the day, definitely to be repeated.
I have a look at the new facilities. Babylon is doing a lot; the whirlpool and sauna is new, and is now quiet place to chill as the girls do not seem to come in much. The new conservatory is a good place to smoke and talk in the cold weather. All in all, the facilities are now very good, and will be even better once the warmer weather arrives and the garden is an option.
Look around and consider my next move. Amalia is tall, beautiful and very much my type, so I approach her. She is friendly, polite and warm, but somehow not available. Next thing I know she's talking to someone else, not off to a room as she implied. I remember reading a post somewhere explaining that she doesn't really go with men who are aged over about 35 and weigh more than 80 kg, and so it proves over the rest of the day. She gets a lot of attention from older men, including from me again on a few occasions, but the only successful men are relatively young and fit looking.
Make no mistake, I respect her right to be choosy about who she f*s for money. I post this to save others who are a bit older / heavier from heartbreak and waste of time. Pity, though.
I also get nowhere with Kendra, a tall dark haired girl who has a slightly geeky look which I find intriguing. After a first chat I make a move but there is absolutely no response. So eventually I give up and move on. Don't know what the secret is, but I'the like to solve it, so I'll probably try again next time.
By this point I am wondering if I am out of luck for the day. Mara keeps trying to catch my eye but today she's not to my taste; Eugenia looks stunnning, Flori has returned after a couple of weeks absence but is in a long, involved conversation with another guest.
Eventually on a whim go with Bella. She is a medium-height, trim Romanian girl with short blonde-pink hair. She has a warm smile, a friendly personality and a good attitude. She looks about 23,but is actually 29. She gives an easy, good, friendly service with plenty of BJ and 69 although she only kisses lightly. In the end we also do anal, with which she is perfectly comfortable and seems to enjoy, unlike some girls who are visibly 'there for the money'. Afterwards we have a chat, then go our separate ways. Very enjoyable and highly recommmnded.
Incidentally both Dolli and Bella have a couple of chats in passing during the rest of the day, which I find attractive. Girls who don't know you ten minutes after a room together always strike me as a bit harsh. Good manners cost nothing.
By now the atmosphere is hotting up. Lulu is dancing in the pole in the bar (and at one stage on the bar), ably suppported by a slender black-haired girl called Daria, Michele and some others. It's agood atmosphere with a lot of the male guests also joining in. Lulu looks like she's enjoying herself, and there a real party feeling.
But my options are a bit limited. Try Amalia and Kendra again, but nix nix. Flori has a really trim little body and looks lovely, but is busy; there is an attractive girl called Lea whom I've not seen before, but I'm not sure.
Eventually go with Adelina, who is a medium-height black haired Romanian. In the room she gives a good, but professional, service. A complete contrast to Dolli. A bit of up-sell towards the end, which I find unattractive. OK, but not outstanding.
As I'm on a roll, it's cold outside and most definitely warm inside, I decide to stay for a bit. Daria has been described as 'uncomplicated' in one post and that's what I'm looking for. Lulu and the others are still dancing, so I congratulate Darla on her performance, and we get to know each other a bit. I explain what I want, she agrees and off we go. In the room DFK, plenty of BJ and she instinctively turns her body for finger. Just how I like it. Satisfied customer.
I like Babylon. The facilities are good, the line-up is fairly stable with a few new faces each time, and there are enough locals and regulars to keep most of the girls honest. All in all a relaxing and enjoyable day, I'm already looking forward to my next visit.
Anyone know what the exodus of girls leaving babylon at the end of last year was all about?
The exodus was not so big. Maybe the law, the lack of customers in the beginning of the week, a raise of the entry price?? Or too much alcohol running in the veins of the boss?
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2150340]The exodus was not so big. Maybe the law, the lack of customers in the beginning of the week, a raise of the entry price?? Or too much alcohol running in the veins of the boss?[/QUOTE]The exodus from Babylon was pretty bad for me. My favorite white girls had gone to Sixsens as they did not want to register; while my favorite blacks did/have not come back as apparently, not being from the EU, they would have problems registering. Total disaster for me here.
On the other hand, all my favorites in World and Sharks had registered and are still around.
Maybe it is because to those who had always operated in Hesse, Netherlands seems too far away; and not having had many regular Dutch customers in the Hessen clubs, they are hesitant in having to pick up another language.
Or maybe those in NRW find that it would be a hassle to change their address with the authorities everytime they want to hop from one NRW club to another. One girl told me this was going to be a major factor for her.
I have received greatly differing feedback from the Babylon girls about their boss. Some love his friendliness, others abhor his beer drinking and favoritism. But none had previously mentioned wanting to leave because of him.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2150405]The exodus from Babylon was pretty bad for me. My favorite white girls had gone to Sixsens as they did not want to register; while my favorite blacks did/have not come back as apparently, not being from the EU, they would have problems registering. Total disaster for me here.
On the other hand, all my favorites in World and Sharks had registered and are still around.
Maybe it is because to those who had always operated in Hesse, Netherlands seems too far away; and not having had many regular Dutch customers in the Hessenclubs, they are hesitant in having to pick up another language.
Or maybe those in NRW find that it would be a hassle to change their address with the authorities everytime they want to hop from one NRW club to another. One girl told me this was going to be a major factor for her.
I have received greatly differing feedback from the Babylon girls about their boss. Some love his friendliness, others abhor his beer drinking and favoritism.[/QUOTE]We don't see.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2150405]The exodus from Babylon was pretty bad for me. My favorite white girls had gone to Sixsens as they did not want to register; while my favorite blacks did/have not come back as apparently, not being from the EU, they would have problems registering. Total disaster for me here.
On the other hand, all my favorites in World and Sharks had registered and are still around.
Maybe it is because to those who had always operated in Hesse, Netherlands seems too far away; and not having had many regular Dutch customers in the Hessen clubs, they are hesitant in having to pick up another language.
Or maybe those in NRW find that it would be a hassle to change their address with the authorities everytime they want to hop from one NRW club to another. One girl told me this was going to be a major factor for her.
I have received greatly differing feedback from the Babylon girls about their boss. Some love his friendliness, others abhor his beer drinking and favoritism. But none had previously mentioned wanting to leave because of him.[/QUOTE]As far as I've heard it wasn't registering that made (some of) the white girls leave, but a conflict with Eddy or Anita. For the black girls it seems to have been the EU thing.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2150405]The exodus from Babylon was pretty bad for me. My favorite white girls had gone to Sixsens as they did not want to register; while my favorite blacks did/have not come back as apparently, not being from the EU, they would have problems registering. Total disaster for me here.
On the other hand, all my favorites in World and Sharks had registered and are still around.
Maybe it is because to those who had always operated in Hesse, Netherlands seems too far away; and not having had many regular Dutch customers in the Hessen clubs, they are hesitant in having to pick up another language.
Or maybe those in NRW find that it would be a hassle to change their address with the authorities everytime they want to hop from one NRW club to another. One girl told me this was going to be a major factor for her.
I have received greatly differing feedback from the Babylon girls about their boss. Some love his friendliness, others abhor his beer drinking and favoritism. But none had previously mentioned wanting to leave because of him.[/QUOTE]Of course all the girls at World have registered despite what they were saying for months, Alexandra is also back but what do you want those veteran girls to do except open their legs and mouths for 50 euros?
In addition to Free Dude: some of the "white" girls are now working in Sixsens (Emma, Eva, Violetta, Sophia). Some of the 'dark" girls have been spotted in Belgium.
All and all the overall lineup in Babylon is a lot less in quality than 1 year ago. There are of course some real gems, but not more than 2-3 on a day, those are mostly booked all day, so imposible to book. Then a lot of mediocrate girls (not bad, but 'just ok" and most newbees are below par (the main asset used to be that most newbees were good with some gems among them). Let's hope this improves, since the facilities and atmospere are still good.
Some of the 'dark" girls have been spotted in Belgium.
Think in conversation it came up, that a most of the African girls at Babylon, were living in Belgium.
[B]Girl of the Month - Anka[/B]
Anka. Very busty model.
23 years young, 164 cm (5'5") tall, 60 kg (132 lbs.) light, black hair, brown eyes, cup size 85 the, completely shaved. Anka is fluent in Romanian as well as good German, English and French.
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Thanks for the report. That is a realy pity. So just to avoid being depressed, I will not go there. Esp if there are so many options out there.
[QUOTE=GeorgeBickham;2148559]... explaining that she doesn't really go with men who are aged over about 35 and weigh more than 80 kg, and so it proves over the rest of the day. She gets a lot of attention from older men, including from me again on a few occasions, but the only successful men are relatively young and fit looking....
I also get nowhere with Kendra, a tall dark haired girl who has a slightly geeky look which I find intriguing. After a first chat I make a move but there is absolutely no response. So eventually I give up and move on. Don't know what the secret is, but I'the like to solve it, so I'll probably try again next time.
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[B]Girl of the Month - Nicoletta[/B]
Nicoletta. Pretty Southerner.
35 years young, black-haired, 160 cm (5'3") tall, 50 kg (110 lbs.) light, brown eyes, cup size 75 A, completely shaved.
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[B]Babylon FKK Saunaclub[/B]
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I had told myself in March not to bother to go to Babylon again due to very poor line-up during my March visit.
But reading all the good reports in their website's forum pages tempted me to give it another chance.
So off I went to Babylon yesterday evening. Had to walk 12 minutes from Elsdorf as bus 950 no longer stops outside the club but does a long detour (adding about 10 minutes to the journey time) through the neighbouring villages to avoid going near Babylon.
It was a good decision. Pretty girls were aplenty. There was 1 Black girl present, called Star from Nigeria, nice body, pleasant personality, good English, good past reports in their website, but her face did not appeal to me so I passed.
Saw another girl I thought was African, very very pretty and petite, but turned out to be Bulgarian.
And as usual there was pretty Mexican Mikki trying to get me to go with her, without success.
The rest were white girls, quite a few I have not seen before.
But what caught my attention was a very very very pretty young new girl who has been newly brought here by her sister Giorgiana. Looks very similar. Georgiana was already very pretty, but her sister even more so.
Alas, obviously many other customers thought so too and she was in too high demand for me to get hold of. So I had to settle for Georgiana instead. Had a good session with her, but as usual quite standard and not memorable.
One customer told me that Georgina and her sister (forget her name now, it is something too common to remember) perform well as a threesome. So, now there are 3 pairs of pretty sisters that I know of: this pair, Amalia / Elif in Sharks, and Juicy / Laura in Oase.
Other girl I took later was Bella, who with her new blonde hair was more attractive than before!
Later, I saw yet another pretty and very slim girl and could not resist taking her. Called Mara, I think she said she came from Living Room. Session was standard though.
After that, saw some more girls I would have wanted to try, but sleep was catching up, and I had embark on the long journey back to my hotel in Cologne.
So, Babylon is now back in my good books.
Mara was called Cristina in LR, she pretended to be Italian but she was not really slim. More like thick legs.
The sister of Georgina is Marie. Very sweet, and I did the threesome and was positively surprised. Marie does only speak Rumanian. But who cares.
I left empty LR after only 3 hours on this Thursday. When I was asked on desk why? I answered: Lack of pretty girls, except little Maria and Amira.
I never thought I would write this, but better casting at Babylon, with Flori = ex Claudia LR who is happy, ex Tatiana LR who is very happy and surprised to see me somewhere else than at LR, she knew the story and how a guy could be faithful to only one girl for so long as she said, she is really lovely, yes I will find a new Eve. Other ex LR girls, a ex Sharks girl, Joana. NL ex GT. It was like meeting school friends, so many girls met before in other clubs, all full smiling welcoming, other guys were looking.
Pretty Lulu for me, who really cum very liquid, be careful for eyes and inside nose. Average level, but full smiling. No Mari at the moment. Dolli and Jeni. Hu are also pretty, but I didn't want to pay alcohol to Jeni, I don t like alcohol taste. She really doesn't look 27 yo. Also tattooed Anya, despite silicon, but really lovely.
Great improvement with new spa and outside swimming pool.
When LR is now most often empty with girls waiting, Babylon is quite full with business for girls. Ex LR girls seem happy about their new business.
2 kino are now closed at LR, still no alcohol, more and more problems. Only hot water works and still nice staff, except for TV.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2178680]I never thought I would write this, but better casting at Babylon, with Flori = ex Claudia LR ......
Dolli and Jeni.Hu are also pretty, but I didn't want to pay alcohol to Jeni, I don t like alcohol taste. She really doesn't look 27 yo. ....
Great improvement with new spa and outside swimming pool.
When LR is now most often empty with girls waiting, Babylon is quite full with business for the girls[/QUOTE]Yes, Babylon was bustling last Thursday and Friday evening with many pretty girls and just enough men. Mood was very happy.
Flori / Claudia looks good with her new thin-framed round specs, compared to the black plastic rectangular specs that Sharks girls like to wear to make them look like school teachers. Flori told me that she is so happy she can see clearly what her customers look like now. Betty of Sharks told me the same thing last year. Seems that some girls have been taking customers almost blindly!
New spa with view of the garden is very nice. And I enjoyed going into the bright sauna where there were already naked girls lounging inside. Very different ambiance from the dark saunas of other clubs with only old sweaty hairy men inside.
I am a little confused with your statement about 'Jeni.Hu'. Is this the small cute Jenny.Hu (always at the basement) who was ejected from the club earlier this year due to misbehaviour? I did not see her last week. Is she back? I thought she was closer to 20 years old than 27 years old?
I didn't find any target yesterday at LR, I will wait for Ada, I let Delia to others. I forgot Olivia, Maya, Joana. Ro were also at LR. Party at GT, so better to avoid.
Arriving at 5.30 pm at new style Babylon with garden now, not so cold outside swimming pool, even can t compete with warm 6 ens one. New rooms.
Found some targets at Babylon and many girls were so lovely behavior. Prettiest for me was Lulu, I didn't have time for Dolli because she finished at 9.30 pm.
Jeni. Hu said her name is Jenifer, small with white skin with long chestnut hair, a bit rabbit teeth, but asking for whisky cola, so, after kissing a bit, I preferred to let her to a guy who was waiting. Quite busy girl.
Nothing exceptional for casting, Mari was missing, but at least I could go with 3/4 girls, not bad, and Lulu is cute for my eyes. She is with a small blond with quite pretty face. As she knows what kind of guy I am, because she spoke with my LR ex, she was always smiling at LR, even more yesterday at Bab, I wonder what could be a try with Tatiana, she is prettier face with hair in pony tail, I m really happy for her, so kind girl, same like Claudia with glasses style, who said it was a long time ago, yes it was in 2014/2015 and not so many rooms, 3 or 4 , but I don t forget her generous behavior, same type than Daria.
Some black girls seen.
Boss Eddy is there to welcome his clients.
She's back and she's around 19 or 20 yo.
All mentioned (former) LR girls are already for ages in Babylon. Line up is not so bad at the moment and of course service level is way above the average in LR (Flori seemed one of the best in LR, in Babylon she is just average girl.). Real top girls here are Karla, Alessia, Michaela, Bibi, Joanna, Gabriella, Marie, etc.
Hungarian Jenny indeed just became 19. After a while in PSR she was allowed back gain in Babylon (but for how long. ?
After 2 years, Hungarian Melinda also came back. With the same smile, but with more than +10 kilo!
It's always funny and sadly very ridiculous when some writers and fanboys of clubs like Maxime write about average level of clubs. Especially since he doesn't visit LR at all (or I must be heavily mistaken), maybe once pro year or so. How can anyone seriously have any clue of the regular service level of a club he doesn't visit or rarely does since a handful of years? Beats me! Just bollocks to compare and filter out his conclusion based on barely nothing!. Flori / Eugenia / and the few other LR-girls which changed to Babylon were not at all top providers at LR. Not even close. They were not booked very often, therefore they had to change clubs and ended up in Babylon after trying some other clubs. "real top girls" must be a joke: Alessia who was at Finca is ok but same story, not much business for her there, hence the change of scenery. Joanna= average GT-girl but somehow she's kinda exotic cause she speaks Dutch and for the Holland mongers she's fantastic. If she was Romanian, they wouldn't even notice her probably. Gabriella since ages in Acapulco where she was mediocre. Lookswise they are all very average (Karla excluded, she is good looking but no stunner in a mile's distance, they don't work in Babylon to be straightforward anyhow. If those are the "top girls", oh well, it's good to be not too difficult or spoiled. That's why for most mongers which visit several clubs, Babylon its just a so-so location where no top-looks girls stay long or even bother to show up and mediocre looking girls provide decent service. Kinda simple. Bottom line: no matter which kind of girl is let in there, no knowledge of language required, kicked out girls are welcomed back. Beats me why? There is no serious management there, alcohol is dominant all the time sadly enough. The club is rather dead on several weekdays and when there is a birthday party, all the coupon-holders show up with reduced entree fees.
Last visit a while ago: 1 mediocre session with Karla, cute Romanian but nothing special. Correct service. 1 bad session with Jenna, a girl without any basic knowledge and skill, wasted time and money.
Next visit: when bored somewhere else and when the drunk chief in command is on holiday probably.
I just realized I forgot to report about my trip 2 months ago. I don't fuel to fuel the flame war between pro and cons, just my report of the moment.
The club changed a lot since 2 years ago. It's well maintained, big wellness area, lots of rooms. The food is OK but maybe there should be a sign explaining of the ordering works.
The girls: on a Sunday, not so many. I expected to see Amira who was a good service provider in LR, not the best but satisfying. Unfortunately she was not here. Only Flori and Mara were here. I'm a little tired of Flori who always try the same seduction pattern on me and Mara just ignored me. So I went for Kendra, the tall girl with glasses. She worked around Frankfurt before. Maybe that's why she's so bitchy.
Rather funny and ironic during the ST, she's really money oriented. In the room at first it was OK, the kissing was not so deep, then it went down during the sex when she started to complain that my dick was to big (the girl is about 170 cm tall and with all the other girls, lots smaller than her, there is no problem), that I lasted too long, blablabla. It ended with a HJ and she complained again that she was starting to feel pain in her shoulder because it took me too long to finish. I stayed one hour with the girl, that's not to ear her bitching continually about how unpleasant it is for a woman to have sex for a long time.
After I paid her, she totally ignored me during the rest of the day. That's not what I call customer service. A good friend of mine told me she asked one of her regulars to pay one hour because he passed the 30 minutes mark by 3 or 4 minutes, and the guy keep coming for her. I should have picked Flori instead, at least she's not acting like a princess.
Bottom line, I'm still not convinced by the club. The new setup is really nice but I'm not into the girls.
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2178921]It's always funny and sadly very ridiculous when some writers and fanboys of clubs like Maxime write about average level of clubs. Especially since he doesn't visit LR at all (or I must be heavily mistaken), maybe once pro year or so. How can anyone seriously have any clue of the regular service level of a club he doesn't visit or rarely does since a handful of years? Beats me! Just bollocks to compare and filter out his conclusion based on barely nothing!. Flori / Eugenia / and the few other LR-girls which changed to Babylon were not at all top providers at LR. Not even close. They were not booked very often, therefore they had to change clubs and ended up in Babylon after trying some other clubs. "real top girls" must be a joke: Alessia who was at Finca is ok but same story, not much business for her there, hence the change of scenery. Joanna= average GT-girl but somehow she's kinda exotic cause she speaks Dutch and for the Holland mongers she's fantastic. If she was Romanian, they wouldn't even notice her probably. Gabriella since ages in Acapulco where she was mediocre.[/QUOTE]Maybe I left too early, just before 5 pm, but as far I know, no more night team: Daria / Karina / Gigi at LR, but I confirm Babylon was higher for looks for my eyes, on this Thursday than so boring and empty LR until I left. I m not a Babylon fan when I was a great weekly LR fan for Daria, Alissa and my ex Eve, but Babylon is also higher level for the club, with new wellness even I don t use saunas and outside swimming pool.
About the most important= girls, at least my eyes could have pleasure at Bab. When I saw her I wanted Lulu. Not enough time, but I could try Dolli and I didn't go with Jeni. Hu, just because I didn't want to pay her a whisky, I don t like to kiss a alcohol bottle or a ashtray, but even she said to be 27 yo, all 3 were fresh with pretty faces. Except little Maria and Amira, I didn't see this before leaving, at LR. Maybe a part timer, German top model arrived at 8 pm, like Liza on her first day, then bad luck for me.
Flori / Claudia with glasses and ex Tatiana were prettier looks than at LR before, and really lovely, Tatiana even telling me good things about my ex Eve, when she could just be happy she could have a new client, but I think she didn't see often a guy so faithful, refusing other girls like Daria or Jeni or Alissa or Georgia, even I loved them, for so long as she said. About level in bed, for my kind of sex like at home, even I had less rooms with Claudia, but same level for me than Daria, and higher level than my ex Eve, but it s not only about sex performances, more important is way to play together.
Lulu is not a sex performer, but pretty, so wet, in my nose and eyes.
For sure, Babylon is not Globe or Wellcum for casting, but LR was really poor on Thursday and I think same on all week days and nothing to dream on Friday and Saturday. With same owner than GT which keep on being quite crowded even with average casting at the moment for my eyes, too many mistakes at LR, they have to start to work rather than watching Bundesliga 2.
I'm not used to hold clubs bar, only asking my hot cacao, but Eddy came to me in friendly way when I was eating my diner.
Boring time since about 6 months at LR, enjoyable rediscovery of new Babylon on Vatertag 2018. Times change, will see for Ada and Leyla if pretty enough.
I will have to try Babylon one weekend while I'm getting lost.
For me Saturday was the best day in the club since September but I will write it over there.
14th May 2018.
Monday isn't the best day for visit any FKK, but it was good for the logistic because this club is only 30 min by car from Cologne / Bonn Airport. We had flight back home in the evening.
My friend and I stayed there from 12 pm till 7 pm.
E60 entry fee is too much for this small club, no bathrobe (only towels), no safety box, tiny locker, buffet sucks, at least the club is new, no smoking and they had a good BBQ. Luckily around 2:30 pm sun come out and we can enjoy the garden with swimming pool, they also have jacuzzi, sauna and porn kino.
Only 20 girls (2 black girls) half of them were ugly, and it's quite unacceptable for E60 entry fee and E50/30 min. I have not seen many firm ass around the club, only few girls have nice face and fit slim body.
First room with Ania-RO a 30 yo with a pornstar look, a lot of tattoos, huge fake boobs but very soft, doctor made a great work. Mechanic service, nothing much to write back home, at least some FK and BBBJ inc. In the E50, fucked her cowgirl, mish, doggy with a lot of too fake moans (a bit annoying). She don't want have her boobs sucked. Shame.
Ate BBQ and spend more than one hour in the garden, some other customers were outside but only 2 girls (very ugly) come outside, looking for business. Some men got a public BBBJ before went to the room. Nice to see some public action.
Back into the club it was a dead day, girls all looking so boring, no approach, serious faces with no smile are not inviting, they seemed not interested in working so maybe better save our money?!
Finally Georgina (27 yo) and her 18 yo sister Marie come to talk with us, they have a very sexy, slim and fit body, Marie is also so cute, but she speak only Romanian and few words of German.
So we interview Georgina and she promised us a great GFE with a lot of DFK and BBBJ in the E50.
I went with G. And my friend take M.
G. gave me a great room as she had promised. DFK, good sloppy BBBJ and ball licking, fuck in different position without silly complain from her side, full 30 min of action and maybe few minutes more.
My friend was very happy with M, so 1 HR later I told G. That I want to fuck her lovely sister and she explain to her what I like.
M. was better and more GFE, her BBBJ was superb, licking, sloppy, eye contact, spit on cock, etc.
She let me fuck her tiny pussy hard in doggy, it was amazing to have this 18 yo body between my hands, all for touching, licking and fucking. Fucked in different position with a lot of DFK and we stayed in the room for 35 min. Both sister are not clock watcher.
Shower, ate BBQ again then leave for the airport. Thanks to G and M who saved my day.
Babylon used to have a great lineup of African hotties, but now there seem to be at most one or two available. Some days none at all.
In the ijsenberen forum it is mentioned that they may have moved to "Black Pearl", but I can not find any club with that name.
Anyone here with more information regarding this?
[QUOTE=KalleKula;2184338]Babylon used to have a great lineup of African hotties, but now there seem to be at most one or two available. Some days none at all.
In the ijsenberen forum it is mentioned that they may have moved to "Black Pearl", but I can not find any club with that name.
Anyone here with more information regarding this?[/QUOTE]Some black girls seen at Bab.
Is there still a Bab tagesplan like before? On website?
[B]Girl of the Month - Michaela[/B]
Michaela. Sunshine. Made in Germany.
20 years young, blond, 165 cm (5' 5") tall, 59 kg (130 lb.) light, brown eyes, cup size 75 be, completely shaved. Michaela is fluent in German and English.
Where She Works:
[B]Babylon FKK Saunaclub[/B]
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50189 Elsdorf.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2184785]Is there still a Bab tagesplan like before? On website?[/QUOTE]Yes. Look out for AWL" (attendance sheet).
It is now here:
[URL]http://saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-anwesenheit.php[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2184785]Is there still a Bab tagesplan like before? On website?[/QUOTE]It was removed from the Babylon website because of the new law apparently. It now appears under a different website called saunaclubs.org that pretends to cover many clubs, but is mainly Babylon.
Last week 4 black girls present in Babylon.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2185100]It was removed from the Babylon website because of the new law apparently. It now appears under a different website called saunaclubs.org that pretends to cover many clubs, but is mainly Babylon.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I have to extend my play field to try to find beauties who are a bit rare at the moment in Germany, but I'm a hard worker in FKK land to find my beauties.
Lulu. Alb German born, is really cute at Bab, and very very wet, nearly squirting. Smiling, lovely behavior.
Also lovely Tatiana LR and Claudia LR, and some other ex LR girls.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2185377]Thanks. I have to extend my play field to try to find beauties who are a bit rare at the moment in Germany, but I'm a hard worker in FKK land to find my beauties.
Lulu. Alb German born, is really cute at Bab, and very very wet, nearly squirting. Smiling, lovely behavior.
Also lovely Tatiana LR and Claudia LR, and some other ex LR girls.[/QUOTE]Still a lot of nice and sexy girls but not in the big clubs anymore, most of them don t want to be fucked many times per day from migrants or tourist for 50 euros. They moved to mid size clubs with more German and regular customers.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2185370]Last week 4 black girls present in Babylon.[/QUOTE]Good to hear. On the attendance sheet I can only find Katja for this week and the next. And she is not there everyday.
Maybe not all girls update their attendance. At least Katja has anal on the menu so maybe worth a visit after all.
The bad news is that many of the newbee girls are NOT offering Babylon service, so no DFK, etc, so same level as in many of the larger clubs. If this remains the case, indeed better to avoid the club if you want not to be frustrated by nice looking newbees who don't do anything.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2187405]The bad news is that many of the newbee girls are NOT offering Babylon service, so no DFK, etc, so same level as in many of the larger clubs. If this remains the case, indeed better to avoid the club if you want not to be frustrated by nice looking newbees who don't do anything.[/QUOTE]True in all the clubs, the new girls will just stick on basic mechanical sex, no BBBJ from most of them, for them it is like a normal job, sad to see were the big clubs are going.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2187405]The bad news is that many of the newbee girls are NOT offering Babylon service, so no DFK, etc, so same level as in many of the larger clubs. If this remains the case, indeed better to avoid the club if you want not to be frustrated by nice looking newbees who don't do anything.[/QUOTE]Thanks for heads up. Can you please name any remaining clubs in NRW which offer GFE services as standard. I can recall only Bernd's.
[QUOTE=Sanuk327;2187469]Thanks for heads up. Can you please name any remaining clubs in NRW which offer GFE services as standard. I can recall only Bernd's.[/QUOTE]Indeed BErnds, or Luder Lounge or Neby (both small clubs in Dortmund).
[QUOTE=Maxime;2187775]Indeed BErnds, or Luder Lounge or Neby (both small clubs in Dortmund).[/QUOTE]Thanks, I know them, they are both day quickie clubs, I am looking for longer adventure with food. I think my best bet will be to visit Bernd's and Zhana (former Marina) in PSR.
[QUOTE=Sanuk327;2187858]Thanks, I know them, they are both day quickie clubs, I am looking for longer adventure with food. I think my best bet will be to visit Bernd's and Zhana (former Marina) in PSR.[/QUOTE]Can still find in Germany, few pretty girls You make improve for your kind of sex and become real GFE for my tastes. When You make them cum, then they will to please You back, and come back to you to repeat. I think they appreciate to feel woman, among being fucked just like a piece of meat most of time.
Bernds is so low level casting for looks, I think only worth for BB.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2187866]Can still find in Germany, few pretty girls You make improve for your kind of sex and become real GFE for my tastes. When You make them cum, then they will to please You back, and come back to you to repeat. I think they appreciate to feel woman, among being fucked just like a piece of meat most of time.
Bernds is so low level casting for looks, I think only worth for BB.[/QUOTE]You are right, I am more in GFE lately. Look is secondary, boobs and attitude are prime. I turn off on tall and flat logs.
[QUOTE=KalleKula;2185861]Good to hear. On the attendance sheet I can only find Katja for this week and the next. And she is not there everyday.
Maybe not all girls update their attendance. At least Katja has anal on the menu so maybe worth a visit after all.[/QUOTE]Now three girls on the attendance sheet. Hope that is still the case the second week of July when I plan my trip.
[B]Girl of the Month - Michelle[/B]
Michelle. Blonde beauty.
30 years young, blonde, 166 cm (5'5") tall, 55 kg (121 lb.) light, green-blue eyes, cup size 75 be, completely shaved. Michelle speaks English, German and Italian.
Where She Works:
[B]Babylon FKK Saunaclub[/B]
Street Address:
Oststrasse 10.
50189 Elsdorf.
Tel. :+49 2274 905588.
[URL=http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com]Babylon Website[/URL]
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FKK [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/events/]Club Event Calendar[/URL].
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Trip Planning,[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/plan/] things to know before you go[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2185377]Thanks. I have to extend my play field to try to find beauties who are a bit rare at the moment in Germany, but I'm a hard worker in FKK land to find my beauties.
Lulu. Alb German born, is really cute at Bab, and very very wet, nearly squirting. Smiling, lovely behavior.
Also lovely Tatiana LR and Claudia LR, and some other ex LR girls.[/QUOTE]Is this true? Ex LR Claudia with the beautiful eyes is now at Babylon? Very slim, very nice manner, almost no boobs, but really amazing eyes? She was at Oase after LR, then if not wrong, another club, but disappeared since.
Is she now at Babylon? Can someone please confirm?
Definitely worth a visit if she is there.
[QUOTE=LocoTonto;2195449]Is this true? Ex LR Claudia with the beautiful eyes is now at Babylon? Very slim, very nice manner, almost no boobs, but really amazing eyes? She was at Oase after LR, then if not wrong, another club, but disappeared since.
Is she now at Babylon? Can someone please confirm?
Definitely worth a visit if she is there.[/QUOTE]Yes, even not seen on my last visit, but ex LR Claudia, like ex LR Tatiana, work now at Bab. I don t remember new Claudia name, because she stays for me Claudia with beautiful blue eyes. Maybe, something like Flori?
Tatiana is now Amira?
[QUOTE=LocoTonto;2195449]Is this true? Ex LR Claudia with the beautiful eyes is now at Babylon? Very slim, very nice manner, almost no boobs, but really amazing eyes? She was at Oase after LR, then if not wrong, another club, but disappeared since. Is she now at Babylon?[/QUOTE]No longer true. She went to Oase, but did not like it, so she went to Babylon as Flori. She put on glasses at the end of April, very cute ones.
In my last session with her last month, she told me that she was going to try another club. I just read in another website last week that she has appeared in another club.
Great pity, I used to go to LR just for her, and I was looking forward to being with her again later this week in Babylon. Her new club is not convenient for me.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2195741]No longer true. She went to Oase, but did not like it, so she went to Babylon as Flori. She put on glasses at the end of April, very cute ones.
In my last session with her last month, she told me that she was going to try another club. I just read in another website last week that she has appeared in another club.
Great pity, I used to go to LR just for her, and I was looking forward to being with her again later this week in Babylon. Her new club is not convenient for me.[/QUOTE]From LR to Babylon what a promotion.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2195741]No longer true. She went to Oase, but did not like it, so she went to Babylon as Flori. She put on glasses at the end of April, very cute ones.
In my last session with her last month, she told me that she was going to try another club. I just read in another website last week that she has appeared in another club.
Great pity, I used to go to LR just for her, and I was looking forward to being with her again later this week in Babylon. Her new club is not convenient for me.[/QUOTE]I often saw her at LR, or even when I saw her at Bab, not so busy, she came once more to me at Bab, saying: Bonjour, long time you didn't choose me, she was right, our rooms were on end of 2014 beginning of 2015, so she should be happy for her business to see her fans who will to follow her if she didn't move to FKK land on the moon.
A real lovely, super GFE girl with beautiful blue eyes.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2195876]so she should be happy for her business to see her fans who will to follow her if she didn't move to FKK land on the moon.[/QUOTE]As I rely on public transport, Planet Happy Garden, is for me as far as the moon. But note that the moon is not a planet, nor does it have any garden, let alone a happy one! :)
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2196085]As I rely on public transport, Planet Happy Garden, is for me as far as the moon. But note that the moon is not a planet, nor does it have any garden, let alone a happy one! :)[/QUOTE]Nor does it have any atmosphere.
Did Claudia move to phg? She must have suicidal tendencies, the club is an industrial disaster. At least she won't meet much competition for service, most of the girls are condom lovers and pathologic upsellers.
Always better to visit, to know, PHG have good foods until late at night, free beer in bottle even I don't drink, outside swimming pool, NL and Turkish money for business.
On September 2016 , I visited weekly for model Isa. Ro, ex Valentina Aca, but who became a real GFE at PHG. If I find a attractive girl there, then a good club for me, but not sure lovely Claudia is a NL or Turkish specialist.
Wish such lovely girl, even I don't go with her since long time, all the best.
Arrived in late afternoon. Lovely sunshine giving the club a happy ambiance. There were more than 30 girls, and it was such a change to see all the totally naked bodies in all their glory very clearly, freckles and all, under the bright conditions, and without all those trimmings girls put on in most other clubs.
I hoped to be more successful in getting hold of Marie, sister of Georgina, today after the failed attempt in April; but no luck, saw her many times but it was always when she was collecting money from a customer or going off with another. She looked even more beautiful than before, and her smiles could melt me.
It was the opposite effect with Lulu. Somehow, her face was not attractive to me today. Maybe it was because I was seeing her in better lighting condition this time. So, I did not approach her.
Looked for Flori in the hope that she had returned, but no, some girls confirmed that she had not been at Babylon last 2 weeks at least.
Despite these disappointments, I had a very good day trying out 3 girls for the first time:
1 Justina. Caught my attention because she had such a happy look at the small lunch table when talking to someone else. So, when he did not seem like he was going to take her, I budged in and took her away. The session lived up to expectations. She is a bit darkish in skin tone, darkish hair, looks a bit like a latino but is 100% Romanian. Nice slim but curvaceous body. Must repeat. Strangely her name is not in the attendance list in the website.
2 Micky. She approached me many times in my last trip, and caught hold of me yesterday. Decided to give her a try, although her boobs are a few sizes above my ideal size. Another very good session: she was pro-active and very obliging. She claims to be a Mexican. Short, very dark skin, black hair. Must repeat.
3 Dolli. This girl was pretty with a nice slim body that met my specs perfectly, and cute puffy nipples. She was fluent in English and very talkative, and so was very interesting in the room to be with. Extended the session until I ran out of time and I had to leave.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2197024]Strangely her name is not in the attendance list in the website.
[/QUOTE]How did you find the overall attendance list accuracy?
As I have stated earlier, my main reason to go to Babylon is the black talent.
Previously there could be at least 5-6 black girls on a good day. Now I rarely find more than two on the attendance sheet.
And then, maybe they are not there at the same time as me or are occupied.
[QUOTE=KalleKula;2198084]How did you find the overall attendance list accuracy?
As I have stated earlier, my main reason to go to Babylon is the black talent.
Previously there could be at least 5-6 black girls on a good day. Now I rarely find more than two on the attendance sheet.
And then, maybe they are not there at the same time as me or are occupied.[/QUOTE]My conclusion is that the attendance list is accurate ex-post. However, it is only partially accurate ex-ante as the future list seems to be based mainly on what happened the previous week. For example, Justina's name and picture appeared only after the day I went with her.
There were 3 black girls there last Thursday. I did not find 2 of them attractive at all, and the only reasonable-looking one there, called Star, had consistently bad reviews in the forums. I was told by some white girls there that Black girls find it more difficult to get registered under the law as they are non-EU unlike the Romanians, and so did not return.
My experience is also that the attendance list (AWL) can be a bit hit and miss (but it's a lot better than most places, which don't have a list at all). Next week tends to be based on the current week, and the current week is updated as time passes. On my last visit I would estimate that there were about 45 girls on the AWL, around 40 actually there and of those about 35 were on the list and the rest not. So its best to treat it as indicative. Most of the girls listed will be there most of the time. The more regular girls can be more predictable.
I did Star a few weeks ago, and she was the best session of my visit (also did Roberta and Flori, who seems to have moved on). Star is a fairly light-skinned Nigerian, said she was 21,spoke English well. She kissed well, and once in the room did plenty of DFK, good long BJ. Sex was OK followed by BJ to completion (extra cost). I would probably go with her again.
She was the only African girl at Babylon that day; I understand that the new law does cause difficulties for non-EU girls, and apparently many of them are now working in the Netherlands and Belgium.
In fact, if you look on the AWL for NEXT WEEK, it mostly is a copy of LAST WEEK (not the current week) so not useful at all. And for the CURRENT week, you can NOT use it forward in time, only backward (who was there yesterday, etc) and use that as a kind of prediction who will be there the coming days (e. G. Bianca is shown on for tomorrow and the rest of the week, but she works in other club now, so she will NOT be there. And that is correctly displayed for today!
The later in the week, the better this works, so on Friday morning, look at lineup of Thursday and you know what to expect (so ignore the lineup of Friday which most of time will NOT be correct).
Arrived about 12:45 PM. Asked reception if the parking lot (to the left of the club, facing it) was their parking lot, since there was a sign stating something about Tankstelle, even though it appeared to be because there was a Babylon Club sign by the entrance. She confirmed that it was not and gave me confusing directions to their parking lot, which involved going to the gas station around the corner and then finding the parking lot. Never did find it, so parked on the street in front of the club.
Breakfast was good: fried eggs and bacon, and more surprisingly, smoked salmon. They start clearing the breakfast items about 1:15 so get there before then if you want breakfast. The dinner food was the usual club food (fried schnitzel, some kind of stew, and a pasta dish), so had green tagliatelle with salmon and mushrooms from the 5 item a la carte menu which is in the black book on the table where the girls sign in before going to the room. Was pretty good, but I never saw anyone else order from the a la carte menu.
Club is quite bigger than I remember and very nice. Three-story building: lockers and rooms in the basement; ground floor having a front garden, locker room, reception area, bar, dining area, couches, sauna and jacuzzi, and outdoor pool; kino and a room on the top floor.
Girl situation was pretty weak: maybe 15 women, mostly old or unattractive or both (mostly Romanian, and one black woman, who was both). Had one very good session with Soraya, Romanian brunette, nice body, cutish face when she smiled. Went with a Bulgarian braided blonde who talked a good game outside the room but was a bust in the room. Jenny, a cute Hungarian brunette, flirted with me most of the time I was there but was pretty busy. Finally I happened to catch her resting by the jacuzzi. She invited me to come sit with her, which I did. The usual chat and sales pitch on her part when she was called by another girl and they went to the pool area with a guy. She came back, grabbed her purse, and said to wait, as she would be back in a minute. She came back a few minutes later and said she would be back in two minutes. She never came back, so presumably she went for the threesome with her friend and the other guy, as a sure room is better than a maybe room with someone else.
In summary, a club with very good facilities and good food but severely lacking in quality and quantity of girls, although it was a Monday and summer, so the lineup may not be representative of the club at its best.
[B]Girl of the Month - Valentina[/B]
Valentina. Little Pleasure.
21 years young, brown hair, 160 cm (5' 3") tall, 45 kg (99 lbs.) light, brown eyes, cup size 75 see, completely shaved. Valentina speaks German, English, Russian and Bulgarian.
Where She Works:
[B]Babylon FKK Saunaclub[/B]
Street Address:
Oststrasse 10.
50189 Elsdorf.
Tel. :+49 2274 905588.
[URL=http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com]Babylon Website[/URL]
[B]ADDITIONAL FKK CLUB TOUR INFO:[/B]
FKK [URL=http://fkktour.com/support/events/]Club Event Calendar[/URL].
[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/what/]What's an FKK Club [/URL]Explained.
Trip Planning,[URL=http://fkktour.com/support/plan/] things to know before you go[/URL].
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It was a sunny summer day last week, and so naturally my thoughts turned to a visit to Babylon. And so off I went.
I arrived just after opening time to find the usual range of 20 or 30 naked girls, having late breakfasts and getting themselves into the spirit of the day. Another 15 or 20 arrived over the next hour or so, giving a good choice.
I find the internet AWL (likely attendance list) one of the very positive points about Babylon. It's not always 100% correct, but don't criticise it for that. Trying to get 'freelance service providers' to commit to where they will be tomorrow, let alone in a week's time, is never going to be easy. So I take it as a suggestion and not a promise. Out of say 40 girls on the AWL, 30 or 35 will probably be there, and the gaps will be filled with girls that weren't expected.
So on this visit some notable absences from the AWL. Micky, Amira, Elli, Tamara. And new faces that I didn't expect to see. Aranca, Soraya, Sophie.
I get changed, have a coffee, lie by the pool, soak up some rays and look around.
On arrival I had been very taken by a tall, thin blonde girl with a tight bod and strong features. This is Aranca. Also a slightly shorter, blonde with a 'girl next door' look. Lori. Both almost immediately team up with specific men whom they know and spend the rest of the day with them by the pool, disappearing off to rooms every so often. Obviously these are long term relationships, and so both girls are effectively out of the frame for the day. Good luck to them. Both girls look extremely attractive prospects who seem to give excellent service, maybe another time.
I had thought that I might try either Maria or older sister Georgiana, but both came off the AWL a day or so before, and are absent. So with the sun no longer the only thing rising in the sky, time to start the business of the day.
First up, Beatrice. Beatrice is mouse blonde, around 25, quite tall with big, firm tits and a smiley face. She's sitting smoking with a gaggle of other Romanians, and quite happy to talk with someone else. In the room some kissing, a good BJ, DATY and decent sex in a few positions. As she's my first of the day, I come quite quickly. Enjoyable, relaxing and definately to be repeated -I love the sensation of holding big tits as they swing around.
Relax, eat some barbecue, hang around the pool. The day is getting HOT! The girls divide into the group who sit outside smoking in the shade, girls who sit inside in semi-darkness, and girls who move around the bar and front eating area showing themselves. On a whim, I approach Kira, who is a tall dark haired girl with plastic tits with a butterfly tattooed between them, who is improving her tan by the pool. The usual lame 'hallo, wie gehts?' opener. She replies that some things are really enjoyable, and some bits less enjoyable. What's enjoyable? 'Oh, lying by the pool in the sun, it's much better in the summer'. And what's less good? 'Working'. Message understood.
I look elsewhere. Too many choices. So eventually next up, Franceska, a medium-sized, attractive girl with firm tits and plaited dreadlocks. She gives a good sell in the bar, but is a disappointment in the room. Limited kissing, BJ OK. She tried to give a PSE feeling with lots of looking up at an imaginary camera in the top corner of the room, but she didn't have the PSE technique- she was neither particularly deep nor skilled. No MF (extra). I had previously asked for anal, and she did anal doggy but no other positions (I quite like anal missionary, so that's a pity.). So while she had a nice, tight arse, and it was an enjoyable sensation, in the end I didn't come. OK, but not worth repeating.
So still with a bone in my pocket, back to the bar and ask myself what (who) to do next? I'the noticed Soraya earlier, and now she crossed my path again. She's a new arrival, medium height, black hair, medium sized tits, friendly face, good character and clearly interested in working. Good English, from a spell working in the UK. In the room a very shallow BJ, but a lot of shaft and ball licking made it really engaged and enjoyable. Sex good, with plenty of positions, so an enjoyable session overall. I would repeat.
By now its around 17:30, cooling down pleasantly outside and the usual Babylon late afternoon 'feeding frenzy' is setting in. All the girls in rooms, and taken again as soon as they come out. Consider a few options, then finally go off with Elina, another young girl recently arrived. She has a fresh, slightly plump body within a friendly attitude. In the room lots of kissing, sloppy BJ and enjoyable sex with positions, eventually with a happy ending. Very enjoyable and definately to be repeated.
I like Babylon. The facilities are good; although the atmosphere in FKK's is never going to be as good as in the days of public BJs its not bad; many of the girls stay but there's a steady stream of new faces; the food and drink is good. And so I go home into the setting sun with a smile on my face.
Day 4 in FKK Land.
Having spent 2 days in World and 1 in Sharks, it was a nice change to go to a more intimate medium-size club.
There is nothing I can find fault with in Babylon. The rooms have good beds, clean sheets are supplied, air-conditioning was just right (it was unbearably hot in the rooms in Sharks again, while some rooms in World were too cold!) The lounge was very pleasant with a cool breeze blowing through, and was smoke-free.
The spa area was modern, spacious, and the water in the jacuzzi looked and smelled clean. The only thing spoiling the spa area was an old hag who positioned herself there to intercept anyone going past the spa area for the first time. But at least she looked more presentable than Sylvana and was not persistant. She was actually reasonably busy with locals throughout the day; and probably provided good service.
Another plus point is that one can control the water temperature of Babylon's showers to the desired temperature. World's showers were as hopeless as ever, being either too hot or too cold. Shark's showers were erratic, sometimes OK, sometimes without sufficiently hot water.
There was a good line up when I arrived at around 12 pm. There were about 30+ girls, and most were attractive in their own way, with hardly any uglies due to the control exerted by the boss.
Jenny passed by and gave me a large smile (as she does with everyone else), but as usual she was busy throughout the day lying on the laps of customers on the deckchairs in the basement, and again I had no chance to get her.
I spotted a pretty girl with a perfectly-shaped slim body, soft perky tits, and a very pretty smile. Took her immediately. Her name was Roxana and she said that she was 19 and not new at this club. I had somehow missed meeting her in all my past visits.
She had good English and was very sweet and cuddly in the room. Good service, but no DFK. I couldn't believe the poor reports of her in the club website that I just read.
Following that session, 2 of my old regulars became available and I spent the rest of the afternoon with them.
In the early evening, I was planning to go back to the hotel after eating, but I spotted a super-skinny girl lounging on a chair in the front yard near the grill. Tanned, leggy, and with a somewhat strange smile. Since I cannot resist super-slim girls, I decided to have a last session before leaving.
Her name was Betty. She provided very good service and good GFE with good kissing. Again, I could not believe the poor reports of her on the club website I just read. Extended the session till I almost ran out of time to get back to Cologne on public transport.
There were another 4-5 cute attractive slim girls I would have wanted to try had I had the time. For me, the number of cute youngish slim girls here easily beats what Sharks had to offer. World has quite a few in the night shift, but it is quite different trying to make out what they really look like at night-time in World compared to the marvellous views of them walking around totally naked in the bright light at Babylon!
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2216059]Day 4 in FKK Land.
Having spent 2 days in World and 1 in Sharks, it was a nice change to go to a more intimate medium-size club.
There is nothing I can find fault with in Babylon. The rooms have good beds, clean sheets are supplied, air-conditioning was just right (it was unbearably hot in the rooms in Sharks again, while some rooms in World were too cold!) The lounge was very pleasant with a cool breeze blowing through, and was smoke-free.
The spa area was modern, spacious, and the water in the jacuzzi looked and smelled clean. The only thing spoiling the spa area was an old hag who positioned herself there to intercept anyone going past the spa area for the first time. But at least she looked more presentable than Sylvana and was not persistant. She was actually reasonably busy with locals throughout the day; and probably provided good service.
Another plus point is that one can control the water temperature of Babylon's showers to the desired temperature. World's showers were as hopeless as ever, being either too hot or too cold. Shark's showers were erratic, sometimes OK, sometimes without sufficiently hot water.
There was a good line up when I arrived at around 12 pm. There were about 30+ girls, and most were attractive in their own way, with hardly any uglies due to the control exerted by the boss.[/QUOTE]World's showers are a real nightmare for so many years incredible that they are not able to fit this very small problem, babylon LU is made of fresh and sexy girls but the customers mostly with migration background are a nightmare, good choice to visit as soon as possible in the morning because the first shift will stop at 3 PM and restart later the evening. The premises need some redecoration but are still not too bad.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2216059]
I spotted a pretty girl with a perfectly-shaped slim body, soft perky tits, and a very pretty smile. Took her immediately. Her name was Roxana and she said that she was 19 and not new at this club. I had somehow missed meeting her in all my past visits.
She had good English and was very sweet and cuddly in the room. Good service, but no DFK. I couldn't believe the poor reports of her in the club website that I just read.
[/QUOTE]Good choice!
Life is good when we can have sex with beauties like Roxana for 50 E!
T.
[QUOTE=Tjohoo;2216249]Good choice!
Life is good when we can have sex with beauties like Roxana for 50 E!
T.[/QUOTE]It was 25 when she started.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2216059]Day 4 in FKK Land.
Having spent 2 days in World and 1 in Sharks, it was a nice change to go to a more intimate medium-size club.
There is nothing I can find fault with in Babylon. The rooms have good beds, clean sheets are supplied, air-conditioning was just right (it was unbearably hot in the rooms in Sharks again, while some rooms in World were too cold!) The lounge was very pleasant with a cool breeze blowing through, and was smoke-free.
The spa area was modern, spacious, and the water in the jacuzzi looked and smelled clean. The only thing spoiling the spa area was an old hag who positioned herself there to intercept anyone going past the spa area for the first time. But at least she looked more presentable than Sylvana and was not persistant. She was actually reasonably busy with locals throughout the day; and probably provided good service.
Another plus point is that one can control the water temperature of Babylon's showers to the desired temperature. World's showers were as hopeless as ever, being either too hot or too cold. Shark's showers were erratic, sometimes OK, sometimes without sufficiently hot water.
There was a good line up when I arrived at around 12 pm. There were about 30+ girls, and most were attractive in their own way, with hardly any uglies due to the control exerted by the boss..[/QUOTE]I'm in the FRA area coming weeks and I'm for sure a fan of cute youngish slim girls: In your opinion- is it worth the drive to Koeln to visit Babylon as an alternative to Sharks or Oase? (approx 2 h drive?
Thanks.
T.
[QUOTE=TonyDain;2216319]I'm in the FRA area coming weeks and I'm for sure a fan of cute youngish slim girls: In your opinion- is it worth the drive to Koeln to visit Babylon as an alternative to Sharks or Oase? (approx 2 h drive?
Thanks.
T.[/QUOTE]I am not sure it is worth the drive as you can find about 10 such girls in Sharks too. However, they mainly come in the evening shift while those in Babylon are there from 11 am. And bear in mind that the lineup in Babylon is good only from Thursdays to Saturdays, and quite depleted on other days.
The other difference is in their attitude. Those in Babylon are service-oriented, while those in Sharks will be after your money and will be in a rush. In Babylon, they are totally nude and look more natural GND, while in Sharks they wear adornments and are more made-up trying to look sexy. So, it really depends on what you are looking for.
[QUOTE=TonyDain;2216319]I'm in the FRA area coming weeks and I'm for sure a fan of cute youngish slim girls: In your opinion- is it worth the drive to Koeln to visit Babylon as an alternative to Sharks or Oase? (approx 2 h drive?
Thanks.
T.[/QUOTE]The girls in Shark are more pro, more veteran in the job, easier to find a kind of beginners at Babylon, but I recommend you to give a try to Samya it is really worth specially if you are in the area.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2216483]I am not sure it is worth the drive as you can find about 10 such girls in Sharks too. However, they mainly come in the evening shift while those in Babylon are there from 11 am. And bear in mind that the lineup in Babylon is good only from Thursdays to Saturdays, and quite depleted on other days.
The other difference is in their attitude. Those in Babylon are service-oriented, while those in Sharks will be after your money and will be in a rush. In Babylon, they are totally nude and look more natural GND, while in Sharks they wear adornments and are more made-up trying to look sexy. So, it really depends on what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]Get the picture. Many thanks!
T.
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[QUOTE=TonyDain;2216319]I'm in the FRA area coming weeks and I'm for sure a fan of cute youngish slim girls: In your opinion- is it worth the drive to Koeln to visit Babylon as an alternative to Sharks or Oase? (approx 2 h drive?
Thanks.
T.[/QUOTE]It is worth.
But don't forget: Babylon is a dayclub: closing time is at midnight.
[QUOTE=TonyDain;2216319]I'm in the FRA area coming weeks and I'm for sure a fan of cute youngish slim girls: In your opinion- is it worth the drive to Koeln to visit Babylon as an alternative to Sharks or Oase? (approx 2 h drive?
Thanks.
T.[/QUOTE]Should find few prettier girls at Sharks, and higher level in bed for me at Sharks than Mari or Lulu at Babylon who are among the prettiest.
Day 4:
I decided to try out other clubs in the region and headed out to Babylon. Babylon is located in the middle of nowhere and you would definitely need to car to get there. By the time I got there in the afternoon, the place was already busy. There was also a pretty decent lineup. The facility was small and of similar size to LR, except that it has an outdoor pool. However, it was a real sauna club where girls were required to be nude. Guys would just be handed a bath towel with no bathrobe.
Babylon was definitely tailored for the locals, since as Asian, I stood out like a sore thumb there. Without surprise, the makeup was majority Romanians with a few black girls there.
I noticed a young blonde girl talking at the bar and I could tell that she's German. Her name is Elaine, lived in Rhinebach area and was only 20 years old according to her account. Her English was somewhat limited which was good in a way, since I was forced to practice and converse with her with my limited German. I could tell she was one of those who enjoy sex and figured why not do something enjoyable and earn extra cash along the way. She would blow me uncovered without even asking and later wanted reciprocity. That's how she climaxed and after that it was my turn. Anyway, I had a pretty good one hour session with her. After that session, I left the club and headed to Samya.
By the way, here's a tip to any newbies to Babylon. The manager mentioned that when you are ready to have a session with any girl, just give her a peck on the cheek, and that will be a sign that you are ready for her.
Spent a few hours at Samya but left without sessioning with any of the girls there. I just did not find anyone worth my time. However the food that they served there was good though.
Anyway, I headed back to LR again that night and WhatsApp Nelly to make sure that she's there which she was. Spent three hours with her that night including a threesome with her good friend Ruby.
[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2217547]However, it was a real sauna club where girls were required to be nude. Guys would just be handed a bath towel with no bathrobe.[/QUOTE]Just a quick note. The clubs that have nude women are closer to a traditional FKK. Most saauna clubs have women dressed in ladies undergarments.
This place has gone through renovations and improvements since my last visit over 2 years ago.
First session with a cheerful skinny black who proved disappointing in bed as she didn't curve properly ("stiff African syndrome").
LU not bad but men strongly outnumbering girls. The theory of guys in some NRW clubs coming more for socializing than sex didn't apply: they stood or sat at a safe distance from one another and their eyes had that vacant anxious look of the male worried about when and if he's going to get laid.
Frustrating feeling of having driven hundreds of miles in order to surround myself with cock.
My day was saved by another, better-looking black with a fuller figure by the name of Noemi. A tongue-kisser with good BJ and no positioning issue. Would definitely repeat.
I spotted a fairly tall Artemis-type girl who contrasted with the Babylon line-up on account of her conspicuously contoured body. Brunette with a big butterfly tattooed between her breasts. She was all the time either taken or interested only in smoking.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2216059] . Extended the session till I almost ran out of time to get back to Cologne on public transport.[/QUOTE]Someone wrote earlier of the bus route changing. What do you take to get there and when's the last bus?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Zumboit;2219691]Someone wrote earlier of the bus route changing. What do you take to get there and when's the last bus?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Bus 950 does not stop outside Babylon anymore. It takes a detour to a neighbouring village. So, take the same bus 950 as before from Konigsdorf (get there using S12 or S19), same timings, but get off at Arnoldusschule-Elsdorf, then walk 13 minutes easy straight route to Babylon.
Last bus from Arnoldusschule to Konigsdorf is around 2001.
Does anybody know if it is true that Babylon has a hotel or something similar near the club, with rooms where a customer of the club can spend the night?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=UniversoFkk;2223441]Does anybody know if it is true that Babylon has a hotel or something similar near the club, with rooms where a customer of the club can spend the night?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Yes, rooms to sleep, belonging to the club. Call them.
Yes that is correct Universo FKK: they have I think 4 "hotel rooms" which can be reserved and used by clients, I thought 50 Euro and you get "free" Breakfast in the club the next day (hoping off course that you'll stay and pay 60 E again). Mostly those rooms are reserved by drunk regulars which can't get into a taxi anymore. So smart to check at Babylon site to see if they are available when you would like to visit the club (and sleep there afterwards), probably you have to call or mail them to book, don't know exactly.
[QUOTE=UniversoFkk;2223441]Does anybody know if it is true that Babylon has a hotel or something similar near the club, with rooms where a customer of the club can spend the night?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]It's in the building next door, 50 euros for the night where you have a large two person bed and a little sink. Shower and toilet are shared (although there are only 3 or 4 rooms in total). You can also get breakfast in the club next morning, but only around opening time, not earlier. You get the room at the reception desk where you pay the entry fee.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;2223727]It's in the building next door, 50 euros for the night where you have a large two person bed and a little sink. Shower and toilet are shared (although there are only 3 or 4 rooms in total). You can also get breakfast in the club next morning, but only around opening time, not earlier. You get the room at the reception desk where you pay the entry fee.[/QUOTE]Is the hotel girl-friendly?
[QUOTE=KalleKula;2224810]Is the hotel girl-friendly?[/QUOTE]Sure, but you'll have to make arrangements with the girls yourself. Calling it a hotel is a bit much though. It is literally the building next door where they set up a few rooms, it's really only for people that want to stay the night after visiting the clubs (and nothing more).
[QUOTE=FreeDude;2224996]Sure, but you'll have to make arrangements with the girls yourself. Calling it a hotel is a bit much though. It is literally the building next door where they set up a few rooms, it's really only for people that want to stay the night after visiting the clubs (and nothing more).[/QUOTE]Yes, of course I would have to make arrangements myself. Curious if it happens often. Wonder what the LT rate is for the girls, if they are up for it at all.
I went to Bab Friday, arriving just after 11 am. There were already a few bears in the door in front of me. It was strange, how many women came to ask me about Living Room. Many of the ladies remember me but I must say, I'm guilty of not remembering every lady I've met in the last year. I'm not a huge fan of the walk through dining area but a couple guys seem to have stayed at the table most of the day. The food was good so no complaints there. I ate from the buffet and had Spaghetti from the a la carta menu.
This was my day of rest, the third day in clubs this week and second day with only a few minutes sleep. After food, and a coffee, I found a comfortable spot and sat to observe the action. The next thing I knew I was waking up two hours later. There were a couple nice ladies who I liked the looks of so I will go back again this week.
[QUOTE=XXL;2218986]
I spotted a fairly tall Artemis-type girl who contrasted with the Babylon line-up on account of her conspicuously contoured body. Brunette with a big butterfly tattooed between her breasts. She was all the time either taken or interested only in smoking.[/QUOTE]That would be Kira. I have tried to session with her a few times, but always sitting smoking. Not sure how she makes a living.
Incidentally, Haus Hubertus on Gladbacher Str. Charges around EUR 35 for a Spartan but clean room plus breakfast, and is only 15 minutes walk from Babylon.
[QUOTE=GeorgeBickham;2228743]That would be Kira. I have tried to session with her a few times, but always sitting smoking. Not sure how she makes a living.
Incidentally, Haus Hubertus on Gladbacher Str. Charges around EUR 35 for a Spartan but clean room plus breakfast, and is only 15 minutes walk from Babylon.[/QUOTE]Probably with a sugar daddy or some regulars spending thousands euros with her, don't be too naive she just doesn't need to fuck for 50 euros.
Haus Hubertus was in fact eur50, now eur 60. But a possible alternative to the Bab facilities.
Day 3 in FKK.
After a day in World and a day in Sharks, it was nice to be back in a smaller club.
As in my previous visits to Babylon, there were many many cute, pretty, slim, and sweet young things to ogle at. Very bright inside so I could have spent my whole time there just looking at the totally naked bodies at close range. And as this is a non-approach club, I do not get disturbed by them.
Looked for Georgina and Mary when I arrived, but alas, no sign of them.
Ran into Micky, but she was busy and about to have a session with a customer. Micky is ex-Sharks, dark-skinned Bulgarian via 'Las Vegas', slimmer now than before. Had a great session with her earlier this year, but she was not going to be free this whole day.
Over the day, I had sessions with 4 slim pretty girls:
1 Dolli. C-session with her. Always great.
2 Diana. First time with her. Perfect looks in my eyes. Slim, very pretty blonde, smile to melt your heart, and very cuddly service. Must repeat.
3 Karla. D-session with her. Great service as usual.
4 Monica. Have not seen her before. She said she came 2 months ago, so I must have missed her in my last visits. She looks the youngest at the club. Brunette with body of a slim teenager with perky cute tits. Not too experienced but tried her best in the room. Great feeling of bonking an innocent teenager! Must repeat also.
Ran out of time at end of the day, with still 3-4 very pretty slim targets to try.
Mari is fresh flesh, enthusiastic out of the room and in bed, but not a woman yet, for body care, shaving, sophistication, and no sensuality for sex. 1 discovery is just enough, when I have sometimes 3 rooms or 3 hours on 2 rooms on same day with some sensual woman types.
Like at Sharks or Oase, lack of elegance for Bab girls looks.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2234806]Day 3 in FKK.
After a day in World and a day in Sharks, it was nice to be back in a smaller club.
As in my previous visits to Babylon, there were many many cute, pretty, slim, and sweet young things to ogle at. Very bright inside so I could have spent my whole time there just looking at the totally naked bodies at close range. And as this is a non-approach club, I do not get disturbed by them.
Looked for Georgina and Mary when I arrived, but alas, no sign of them.
Ran into Micky, but she was busy and about to have a session with a customer. Micky is ex-Sharks, dark-skinned Bulgarian via 'Las Vegas', slimmer now than before. Had a great session with her earlier this year, but she was not going to be free this whole day.
Over the day, I had sessions with 4 slim pretty girls:
1 Dolli. C-session with her. Always great.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review.
What are C-sessions and D-sessions? I first read C-section and that did not make sense at all.
By the way, have the black girls started to return to Babylon?
Checked out Babylon, hoping to see Mara (formerly Cristina at LR). She was on the schedule when I checked the website a few days ago, but it turned out she wasn't working. Girls at Babylon seem to be a bit more aggressive than other clubs in the region. While looking around I saw Kelly, a stunning, tan blonde, and I knew instantly I had to have her. She actually looks like a Kelly. She chose her name well. I liked everything about her including her thin body, nice legs, and cute voice. (She says that some people say she has the voice of a cartoon character, which I can imagine, so some people might not like her voice, but I loved it.) Apparently it was Kelly's first day working at Babylon (or anywhere in Germany, I think) and I was her first customer. She used to work at Wellcum outside of Villach, Austria and also at some club in Zurich (I hadn't heard of the club, and Kelly said it cost more than Globe.).
I was happy to be Kelly's first customer. It took awhile to get a room, because another girl had to show Kelly how to sign in for a room and where to get everything. A couple of the other girls were being catty and shouting the wrong information, messing with her. Surely, they are jealous and know that Kelly is going to get more business than them. I was ready to rock even before we got to the room. Her dyed blonde hair goes well with her sexy, tan body. Before she proceeded with a blow job she said "I don't know how it is in Germany clubs. Are blow jobs with a condom or without?" Don't worry guys, I taught her the correct way to do things.
Enjoyed my session so much that I had another session with Kelly again before leaving.
Side note: I wish Babylon would have robes available, even if they had to charge for rental like Mainhattan does. And they are too stingy with the towels. The extra ones they have out are too small!
Side note 2: Kalle Kula, in regard to your question, I only saw one black girl. And one that may have been half black.
[QUOTE=KalleKula;2234816]What are C-sessions and D-sessions?
By the way, have the black girls started to return to Babylon?[/QUOTE]Refers to 3rd time and 4th time with the girl respectively. Number of black girls very limited. On Wednesday, there was only Chayna (ex-Shana) and another girl looking quite similar to her. They are totally black.
The half black seen by TheRugdr is Micky (ex-Holly) who is Bulgarian/'USA'.
Hello!
Someone can tell me if the prices of extra like Anal CIM-COB? Is like GT Bruggen 50 E and 25 E?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2234918]Checked out Babylon, hoping to see Mara (formerly Cristina at LR). She was on the schedule when I checked the website a few days ago, but it turned out she wasn't working. Girls at Babylon seem to be a bit more aggressive than other clubs in the region. While looking around I saw Kelly, a stunning, tan blonde, and I knew instantly I had to have her. She actually looks like a Kelly. She chose her name well. I liked everything about her including her thin body, nice legs, and cute voice. (She says that some people say she has the voice of a cartoon character, which I can imagine, so some people might not like her voice, but I loved it.) Apparently it was Kelly's first day working at Babylon (or anywhere in Germany, I think) and I was her first customer. She used to work at Wellcum outside of Villach, Austria and also at some club in Zurich (I hadn't heard of the club, and Kelly said it cost more than Globe.).
I was happy to be Kelly's first customer. It took awhile to get a room, because another girl had to show Kelly how to sign in for a room and where to get everything. A couple of the other girls were being catty and shouting the wrong information, messing with her. Surely, they are jealous and know that Kelly is going to get more business than them. I was ready to rock even before we got to the room. Her dyed blonde hair goes well with her sexy, tan body. Before she proceeded with a blow job she said "I don't know how it is in Germany clubs. Are blow jobs with a condom or without?" Don't worry guys, I taught her the correct way to do things.
Enjoyed my session so much that I had another session with Kelly again before leaving.
Side note: I wish Babylon would have robes available, even if they had to charge for rental like Mainhattan does. And they are too stingy with the towels. The extra ones they have out are too small!
Side note 2: Kalle Kula, in regard to your question, I only saw one black girl. And one that may have been half black.[/QUOTE]First day, first customer, first time. Let us be a little bit realistic and serious on this forum.
[QUOTE=MrStev;2235302]Hello!
Someone can tell me if the prices of extra like Anal CIM-COB? Is like GT Bruggen 50 E and 25 E?
Thanks![/QUOTE]It depends on the lady. Some still ask €25 and others ask €50. I know Mara asked €50 for things I used to get from her for free at LR. Times are changing, but I resisted and stayed with the basic priced offerings.
[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2234918]While looking around I saw Kelly, a stunning, tan blonde, and I knew instantly I had to have her. She actually looks like a Kelly. She chose her name well. I liked everything about her including her thin body, nice legs, and cute voice. (She says that some people say she has the voice of a cartoon character, which I can imagine, so some people might not like her voice, but I loved it.) Apparently it was Kelly's first day working at Babylon (or anywhere in Germany, I think) and I was her first customer. She used to work at Wellcum outside of Villach, Austria and also at some club in Zurich (I hadn't heard of the club, and Kelly said it cost more than Globe.).[/QUOTE]
On her third "first working day in Germany" she told me that - after Wellcum - she worked in Bumsalp (with CHF 150 per half hour indeed 10 CHF more expensive than Globe) and wanted to work in Globe but was denied. Can not be her beautiful body and face (conform Globe standard) but probably her unwillingness to agree to the Globe (and Babylon) norm of offering perfect lip and tongue services. Therefore she had not much to do yesterday.
BTW, some other new girls also, but those would certainly be denied entrance in every Swiss club because of way too much kilo's........it is not getting better with the Babylon lineup currently. Happily Mary made up for this, by combining great body and great service!
[QUOTE=Chongmal;2235401]It depends on the lady. Some still ask 25 and others ask 50. I know Mara asked 50 for things I used to get from her for free at LR. Times are changing, but I resisted and stayed with the basic priced offerings.[/QUOTE]Next time ignore her, she'll lose more than 50 euros in the long term.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2235903]On her third "first working day in Germany" she told me that - after Wellcum - she worked in Bumsalp (with CHF 150 per half hour indeed 10 CHF more expensive than Globe) and wanted to work in Globe but was denied. Can not be her beautiful body and face (conform Globe standard) but probably her unwillingness to agree to the Globe (and Babylon) norm of offering perfect lip and tongue services. Therefore she had not much to do yesterday.
BTW, some other new girls also, but those would certainly be denied entrance in every Swiss club because of way too much kilo's........it is not getting better with the Babylon lineup currently. Happily Mary made up for this, by combining great body and great service![/QUOTE]You mean not kissing? Then not busy? Even new. Maybe she should return to Wellcum where Italians are not demanding about kissing, as say Wellcum girls, but should be complicated for her to get business in Switzerland, if she is not able at Bab, among usually average casting. She is not on tagesplan?
Mari is enthusiastic for behavior, but not Swiss level for body care and sensuality in bed.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2235903]On her third "first working day in Germany" she told me that - after Wellcum - she worked in Bumsalp (with CHF 150 per half hour indeed 10 CHF more expensive than Globe) and wanted to work in Globe but was denied. Can not be her beautiful body and face (conform Globe standard) but probably her unwillingness to agree to the Globe (and Babylon) norm of offering perfect lip and tongue services. Therefore she had not much to do yesterday.
BTW, some other new girls also, but those would certainly be denied entrance in every Swiss club because of way too much kilo's........it is not getting better with the Babylon lineup currently. Happily Mary made up for this, by combining great body and great service![/QUOTE]Globe standard? Are you joking Globe is just a cheating place like palace, Artemis, world, oase, how many senior german mongers are there, probably 0 just good for frustratrd tourists.
Title says it all. Friendly, enthusiastic, gave me a deep kiss as soon as we got in the continuing to kiss throughout the hour and a half I spent with her, in two sessions. Great blowjob, posing for me and the mirror, what a bod, perfect for me.
Nice atmosphere in the club, girls dancing and joking around. 3 instances observed of fall on public sex.
The club is like a blast from the past. No upsell, no nastiness about being turned down, BJ as it should be. And all naked!
Tonight brought me back to the day I lost my FKK virginity. The wonder of it, that there can be a safe legal place like this. And really, sometimes the girls are so nice. Mary said she was 18. Where did she get those skills?
Fri 26th Oct arrived by hire car (side note: the main car park is at the back of the building which is accessed from the road behind the club, once parked follow the signs from there to walk around to the entrance at the front), upon entry a bell is rung and some free girls line up at reception, one of the girls is selected to guide you around the club facilities. For my case, Laura. First of all, time to get changed as no clothed mongers allowed past this point, shower (the girls appreciate this regardless if you've already done so before arriving), and wear the towel provided. Note that robes are not given in this club (and no option to hire) but you can bring your own as some fellow mongers had done.
During the tour, I couldn't help noticing there was a fair amount of public action going on. Both outside by the pool (a guy getting a BBJ on one of the outdoor sun loungers in the unusually hot weather for Oct) and in the Kino (full sex). There was more public action later on as well – I saw this in the wellness, outside in the garden and in the Kino, but never in the main lounge (but I expect it has happened on other nights). So, if you're into that thing, then I would recommend this club.
My first impressions of the club were good. Wellness facilities are new, clean and really nice with Jacuzzi, sauna and outdoor pool. No smoking in main area of the club is a plus point for me. However, the dining area I found too small and congested and was not the best layout, although the food was decent quality and available most of the time.
On Friday I arrived about 12:30 pm, already there were a decent number of girls, 20 perhaps (as expected as I've heard this is a day club). Optics wise, I'the say half were average (5/6) and the other half I found to be pretty (7) and maybe 2 that I found very attractive (8). There weren't any girls I would say definite no no, apart from maybe 1 older women (50 ish) who was at least nice to talk to and a good information source when we spoke momentarily. I had a nice breakfast / lunch and sat down with a cappuccino in the main lounge – a chance to scope out the talent. Despite being labelled a 'no approach' club I found this not to be the case. I was approached by no less than 5 different girls within 15 minutes of just sitting there minding my own business. I declined them all, not because I found them unattractive (incidentally I did later session with some who approached), but I wanted to settle my breakfast enjoy the coffee and choose myself. I was informed by one of them that it was an Oktoberfest party tonight (I was unaware) – good I thought, hopefully this means more girls later! This turned out to be the case – in the evening there were at least 50 girls and less than this amount of mongers – a great ratio but made choosing difficult – a nice problem to have! Here are the girls I went for:
Girl 1 – Naomi. Black girl from Nigeria. Saw her downstairs at the bar and found her attractive due to exoticness and rareness of black ladies in clubs (there were at least another 2 black girls present on this day). I've heard Babylon has a solid reputation for black girls so would be rude not to try. Later I saw her in the Kino and she enticed me over. We started DFK (loved those thick juicy African lips) while she gave me HJ. We then went to a room and had a nice session with multiple positions. A good start to the day.
Girl 2 – Alma. I liked the body on this girl with nice perky breasts, round bubble butt and her face was pretty too. She spoke very little English and I don't think much German either – only Romanian. This didn't put me off as I liked her optics and her friendly / bubbly nature. We had hour long session which I found to be very GFE with LFK and BBJ as standard. She did get very moist naturally by giving me a body message and rubbing her clit on my bare bratwurst. All in all, a good session and would repeat.
Girl 3 – Gaby – very dark tan with a small peanut head. Wasn't to my liking initially but through her persistence she eventually got me in the room (approached a few times – sitting on my lap almost refusing to get off until I agreed). I decided what the hell, let's just go for the half hour and be done with it. The session was average, nothing particularly bad (everything given as standard) but the chemistry wasn't there for me. I wouldn't repeat.
Girl 4 – Georgianna. Nice looking Romanian girl with petite body. It was quite a fast session with her (my fault! She was pretty tight and rode me hard, I lasted no more than 20 minutes overall. Still enjoyable none the less. Short and sweet; would repeat but would like slower next time.
Girl 5 – Roberta. She was a wild extroverted girl outside the room, always shouting across the room in Romanian to other girls, dancing to music and playing pranks on people to get the mood going. Prank 1: there was an old guy asleep on the couch and she kept going up and flicking his lips with onlookers watching and laughing. This reaction from the audience encouraged her to pick up one of the tissue boxes and begin stuffing tissues in his open mouth! This woke him up, by which time she was already sat down speaking to one of her friends acting as if she had nothing to do with it. Hilarious! Prank 2: one of the mongers had a giant shoe horn (about 3 feet) with him (must have been a regular) which he used to pretend to slap the girls with. Roberta managed to pinch it from him when he was distracted and gave him a hard smack with it on the back of the leg. CRACK! The noise echoed throughout the main lough and everyone was in stiches. What then followed was a wild goose chase around the club, however, she was much too fast and agile for him and he kept getting spanked by her – the entertainment really lifted the atmosphere between sessions. Maybe he will think twice about bringing this prop the next time haha. I digress. With all her energy outside the room I had to have her inside the room, she also had a tight, athletic body and a pretty face. In the room I was expecting a full on wild PSE with lots of energy but she was more sensual and GFE in the room. I had a nice DFK, BBJ, multi-position sex session with her – recommend and to be repeated.
Girl 6 – Lana. I'the been eyeing her up for a while but was frequently unavailable – a good sign I thought. She is quite tall, a GND type look and demeanour, with long brown hair, dark tan and a pretty face. She has a few extra pounds on her body which I quite like, ample natural breasts and a nice shapely ass. She was the most GFE out of all the sessions with the longest / deepest DFK and seemed to really enjoy the sex too. She was my favourite for the good level of service and optics to my taste – save the best for last Highly recommend.
Overall, I was not disappointed with any of the girls and they all offered DFK / BBJ in standard price (don't know about DATY as it's not my thing). There were other girls there I would like to try but I didn't have time (I liked the variety of girls also). Will have to come back to sample the rest!
Bonus funny story (don't read if eating / easily squeamish): Around 9 pm or so I came back from the wellness area into the main lounge to see some girls running from the reception area back into the lounge with their hands over their mouths / noses and shrieking! Some were saying 'Eww what a smell!' or making being sick gestures. 'Don't go back, they're cleaning it. ' one said. OK so I thought – somebody obviously has had too much beer in the Oktoberfest and has thrown up at reception. I asked one of the girls I'the been with and she informed me it was far worse and much more embarrassing. Turns out that a monger couldn't make it to the toilet in time and shat (ka ka – as she described it) himself at the reception area – probably the busiest place in the club where there is often a que for the sign in book and next to the food area. It was all over the floor and stinking the place out apparently – didn't need to confirm for myself! Swarms of cleaners armed with mops, disinfectants and air fresheners descended upon the horrid mess to hastily deal with the potty problem before too many punters became aware. How embarrassing for that guy – if he were local I wonder if any girl in the club would ever session with him again from fear of sh**ting the bed! Haha.
[QUOTE=Zumboit;2237632]Title says it all. Friendly, enthusiastic, gave me a deep kiss as soon as we got in the continuing to kiss throughout the hour and a half I spent with her, in two sessions. Great blowjob, posing for me and the mirror, what a bod, perfect for me.
Nice atmosphere in the club, girls dancing and joking around. 3 instances observed of fall on public sex.
The club is like a blast from the past. No upsell, no nastiness about being turned down, BJ as it should be. And all naked!
Tonight brought me back to the day I lost my FKK virginity. The wonder of it, that there can be a safe legal place like this. And really, sometimes the girls are so nice. Mary said she was 18. Where did she get those skills?[/QUOTE]Babylon casting is very average, so Mary looks fresh and cute, smiling, playful, enthusiastic, but compare to Romanian beauties can be found on north of Koln, she is really average, with lack of care for her shaving, legs, lack of woman sensuality, woman charm. Nice behavior girl but no need to repeat for me and I didn't run to, despite her smiles after.
Wish Kelli to be much more attractive look.
[QUOTE=MrBen;2237657]Overall, I was not disappointed with any of the girls and they all offered DFK / BBJ in standard price (don't know about DATY as it's not my thing). There were other girls there I would like to try but I didn't have time (I liked the variety of girls also). Will have to come back to sample the rest![/QUOTE]+1.
I went to Babylon for 2 days last week, had 8 girls in total, and not a single one was a disappointment. And still another 3 I wanted to try.
11 desirable girls out of about 40 is probably the highest percentage for me. In Sharks last week, it was around 6-7 desirable (I exclude those pretty ones who had said 'no kissing' before or wanted 50 extra) out of 100+; and in World, it was around 10-12 out of 45-70.
And lucky Zumboit. Over 4 visits now I have still not been able to get hold of Mary (either absent, or told me she was busy). She looks sooo pretty!
After a so frustrating Friday at GT, I just should have made my own business elsewhere, but at least my friend was happy she came, yes she came after my messages but not in good heath to be enjoyable. So I thought to try Kelli Swiss level on Saturday, Switzerland is my standard and quite rare in Germany. Kelli was on tagesplan on this Saturday noon, but not working. Bab is not reliable like Globe. Nearly Summer weather, outside swimming pool not so cold, good foods, relaxing, Bab was really improved for the place. I discovered Dolli. Ro, 25 yo, pretty for my eyes, green eyes, smiling, I would have been happy to have her at GT on Friday. When we introduced to each other, she said: You are french and You are able to speak English like this? She seems to speak fluently, I thought to answer: but I m a good student, I make my writing exercises daily. Nice behavior, sweet, playful, good BJ, limited vagina but pleasure with her was she is really higher level for cleverness than so many low level WGs. Same like Kate, not just a no brain girl. I never noticed her before, no repeat yesterday only because of her limited vagina, stressing to have to care a lot not to hurt her, but a good surprise among Bab casting. Many ex LR girls, Amira ex Tatiana who doesn't forget my behavior at LR, refusing every week all other girls, just for 1 girl. Her friends were looking how she smiled and kissed me, even we never had room together. Lulu is now blond, really not on Dolli level. Same for Mari, not full busy on a Saturday, nice, but real lack of charm, so no need to repeat for me even she was nice in bed. Maybe Bella? With hair like Sid Vicious Sex Pistols. Second discovery was for Alina. Ro, 20 yo, cute, fresh, so sweet, real passionate for sex. Dolli and Alina were the only 2 desirable on this Saturday for my tastes, when no Kelli, 1 hour with each to take my time to orgasmus them, which help on discovery.
3 or 4 black girls. 1 really old, Caucasian type, Sylvana twin in brunette.
Which location is this thread referring to? I see two locations in the Köln area.
One is a SaunaClub Babylon and the other is Bathhouse Babylon Cologne. I'd to visit this FKK later this week. Thanks.
On Google Maps I see two Babylon locations near Cologne. When is a SaunaClub Babylon and the other is a Bathhouse Babylon Cologne. Could someone let me know which this thread refers to? I'd like to stop by the club this week.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Hoserack;2238909]On Google Maps I see two Babylon locations near Cologne. When is a SaunaClub Babylon and the other is a Bathhouse Babylon Cologne. Could someone let me know which this thread refers to? I'd like to stop by the club this week.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sauna club Babylon 10 Oststrasse Elsdorf between Koln and Aachen.
[QUOTE=Hoserack;2238909]On Google Maps I see two Babylon locations near Cologne. When is a SaunaClub Babylon and the other is a Bathhouse Babylon Cologne. Could someone let me know which this thread refers to? I'd like to stop by the club this week.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]It is the one at Oststrasse, Elsdorf, quite far from Cologne.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2238918]It is the one at Oststrasse, Elsdorf, quite far from Cologne.[/QUOTE]Going to the wrong one might be quite a surprise as the other one is a gay sauna.
[QUOTE=KalleKula;2239202]Going to the wrong one might be quite a surprise as the other one is a gay sauna.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't want that, thanks for the heads up.
LOL.
Does Babylon have a steam sauna?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2238912]Sauna club Babylon 10 Oststrasse Elsdorf between Koln and Aachen.[/QUOTE]Waze, Google Maps, etc. Take you to the front of the club where there is not much parking. At the traffic circle just up the road, turn passed the gas station and then take the next left, then right to come to the parking behind the club. There is a walk thru path from the parking to the front door. It's easy to understand if you look at a satellite view.
All girls were checked for the right papers by the Ordnungsamt. Took a while, but in the end all seemed ok and the party could go on as usual. Men were not checked.
[QUOTE=Hoserack;2239557]Does Babylon have a steam sauna?[/QUOTE]No, only a 80° sauna.
When I arrived at the club around 5 PM things were already in full swing. I paid the 60 E entry, showered, and had a tasty meal from the buffet setup. I would describe this as a medium size club in terms of space but it was packed with a lot of girls & other guys. Check out the link below to see the girls.
[URL]https://www.saunaclubs.org/modelle/saunaclub-babylon/[/URL]
After eating I grabbed a free beer and sat in the lounge to watch the girls. Most of the guys in the lounge were watching a Soccer game while the Girls were sitting on couches on the sides of the room. I did see a number of interesting girls in this club so I took my time deciding. After a while I went to get a coffee and as I walked into the bar area I saw a lot of guys standing near the long bar. They were loudly cheering on two girls kissing on large round bed located a few feet from the bar. There was no room to stand so I sat down on a coffee table near the couch. The two girls, one white & one black were soon rubbing each others pussies and then the white girl turned and went down on the other girl. She spent some time licking the black girl's pussy and ass and then she began finger blasting the girl. The black then moved around so the girls could do 69. They went at each other for a good 15 min. Before another black girl walked by and then reached down and started to finger the white girl. It was another 15 min. Before the girls finally stopped. Later that night I saw a Guy eating a Girl's pussy on that same round bed. She seemed very bored and was talking to other girls that walked by. I left but when I went to get another drink 20 min later it was still going on.
I walked back into the lounge and soon a 21 YO Black haired Romanian named Yasmin caught my eye. She had a nice body with very noticeable tan lines and wore glasses. Also she had that Girl next door look going on. She spoke English well so we talked and agreed on a menu of kissing, BBBJ, 69, & sex with a condom for 50 E. In the room it was a slow passionate session. It was enjoyable and she moaned a lot but nothing really stood out as exceptional. You can find a photo of her body in the link below.
[URL]https://www.saunaclubs.org/modelle/saunaclub-babylon/602.php[/URL]
[QUOTE=Mechelen;2243492]No, only a 80 sauna.[/QUOTE]I hope you mean Celsius.
LOL.
Babylon was a very nice place for as long as ebony Prisca was there.
I know she moved over to Heaven Seven in Willich about a year ago.
I reckon nobody has any further news about this exquisite Prisca.
[QUOTE=FlurkMan;2243826]I hope you mean Celsius.
LOL.[/QUOTE]Sure, it is Europe.
Had good breakfast, before a very bloody beginning of the day, lasting for hours, but staff was really nice.
Not so bad casting, can compete with LR on average and GT, but not for top beauties and level in bed. Kelli, 25 yo, ex Bumsalp and Wellcum, we could speak about red hair Daria, is cute and friendly behavior in bed, but lack of woman type sensuality. Half German Mikaela seems also cute. Also seen: Dolli, Mari who was available quite often, Georgiana, Amira ex Tatiana, Ana ex Francesca Samya.
A very quiet day, to rest and recover. Complicated to find top girls in Germany.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2246881]Had good breakfast, before a very bloody beginning of the day, lasting for hours, but staff was really nice.
Not so bad casting, can compete with LR on average and GT, but not for top beauties and level in bed. Kelli, 25 yo, ex Bumsalp and Wellcum, we could speak about red hair Daria, is cute and friendly behavior in bed, but lack of woman type sensuality. Half German Mikaela seems also cute. Also seen: Dolli, Mari who was available quite often, Georgiana, Amira ex Tatiana, Ana ex Francesca Samya.
A very quiet day, to rest and recover. Complicated to find top girls in Germany.[/QUOTE]Yes mostly impossible in the clubs, only veteran prostitutes around who got fucked 10000 or more times, some good findings are still possible in the escort agencies or with KM.
Hello all,
I want to visit for the first time a FKK and I'm looking for information.
What is the dress code inside the environment?
Is there a limit in time to stay there or can we take our time?
Are there only young woman or are there also mature woman?
I assume that the common language is the English?
Sorry for the many questions, hope to get an answer to help me to visit the place!
Regards,
Billy.
[QUOTE=MrBilly;2263118]Hello all,
I want to visit for the first time a FKK and I'm looking for information.
What is the dress code inside the environment?
Is there a limit in time to stay there or can we take our time?
Are there only young woman or are there also mature woman?
I assume that the common language is the English?
Sorry for the many questions, hope to get an answer to help me to visit the place!
Regards,
Billy.[/QUOTE]Have you RTFF? You can find most of the info if you happen to read them. Anyway, a few tidbits to get you started.
Dress code: What dress code? It is a sauna club and your dress code is no clothes. You will be issued either a towel or bathrobe on entering after paying the entrance fee. The women inside the club would be parading around nude.
Time Limit: You can stay as long as you want until it closes. However, given the size of the place, you are most likely to get bored first.
Language: No problem with English there.
Woman Type: it comes in all sorts but since they are all independent freelancers, the lineup fluctuates daily. However, you are most likely going to see more Romanians there and it is the same in all other FKKs.
[QUOTE=MrBilly;2263118]What is the dress code inside the environment?
Is there a limit in time to stay there or can we take our time?
Are there only young woman or are there also mature woman?
I assume that the common language is the English?[/QUOTE]Most customers just wear a towel wrapped around the waist. Few wear robes. Women mostly totally nude; unlike those at Oase who wear adornments.
No time limit. On Thursdays to Saturdays there are many girls to try out up till closing time which is around midnight. Sundays to Wednesdays could have poor lineups. Avoid Mondays at all cost.
Mainly young women between 20-30. Some older ones, and often 2 very very old ones.
Customers mainly Germans, Dutch, French and Belgians. So, common language is NOT English. I normally hear French and German. But most girls speak English, while the Dutch customers will speak English with you.
[QUOTE=MrBilly;2263118]Hello all,
I want to visit for the first time a FKK and I'm looking for information.
What is the dress code inside the environment?
Is there a limit in time to stay there or can we take our time?
Are there only young woman or are there also mature woman?
I assume that the common language is the English?
Sorry for the many questions, hope to get an answer to help me to visit the place!
Regards,
Billy.[/QUOTE]One further point: make sure you pay the same prices as local visitors. If you come from a country where prostitution is illegal or semi legal then you may be used to much higher prices than German men are used to paying. Paying more will in most cases not get you better service, but will mark you out as a soft target.
If Babylon is to be your first club, nice choice. Relaxed atmosphere, not too many tourists, decent service levels, naked girls.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2263228]Most customers just wear a towel wrapped around the waist. Few wear robes. [/QUOTE]At Bab if you want to wear a robe you have to bring your own. Most men stick to the towel so a robe makes you stand our from the locals. Well, there is at least one regular that wears a robe but he usually walks around with it open.
If you follow the GPS to the address of the club you find three or four parking spaces. Use satellite view to see the parking spaces behind the club and how to navigate to them.
There is an a la cartel menu offered in the afternoon. Maybe ask a lady in the club if she can explain it. You may also be able to ask the guy sitting at the table with the giant pork steak or grilled chicken with white sauce and mushrooms. He knows.
One of the nice things about this club is the plan for the ladies is published with photos so you know if she is supposed to be there, a description and a photo of most ladies before you visit. Some ladies are very popular. Some staying booked from 12 pm to 10 pm when you decide you only have two hours left to find another option.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2263228]Most customers just wear a towel wrapped around the waist. Few wear robes. Women mostly totally nude; unlike those at Oase who wear adornments.
No time limit. On Thursdays to Saturdays there are many girls to try out up till closing time which is around midnight. Sundays to Wednesdays could have poor lineups. Avoid Mondays at all cost.
Mainly young women between 20-30. Some older ones, and often 2 very very old ones.
Customers mainly Germans, Dutch, French and Belgians. So, common language is NOT English. I normally hear French and German. But most girls speak English, while the Dutch customers will speak English with you.[/QUOTE]I can only go there maybe this Sunday or Monday, so if I only have Monday I should try somewhere else?
[QUOTE=Pgtfg;2272240]I can only go there maybe this Sunday or Monday, so if I only have Monday I should try somewhere else?[/QUOTE]Google "saunaclub babylon" and choose the item with the word Anwesenheit. This gives you the roster. If you look at the roster for Monday 14th January, it shows that only 7 girls indicated that they would be present, and one of them is the masseuse. I would not take any of the other 6!
Better on Sunday. For example, the roster shows 23 girls to be present tomorrow, at least 2 of whom I would certainly have wanted to session with.
At Pgtfg: Mondays a complete waste, Sundays eventually but surely not a great idea.
The club is rather dead on Sundays and almost completely dead om Mondays. A waste of time and money! The girls which show up on those quiet days are girls which work 7 days a week (sleepovers) or have another "reason" to show up on days where there are almost zero clients and zero atmosphere, most of them are "bad" service providers. Better and smarter to focus on other clubs which are worth it. In Babylon it has been simple for ages: Sunday till Wednesday: poor line-up in numbers, not a lot of clients. Not worthy of 60 Euro entry fur sure, a rip-off almost. Thursday till Saturday: more girls, more clients (especially when there are birthday parties of guests, which is the case almost every week-end or sometimes even more than 1 pro day), the few pretty girls are busy then and unavailable mostly, sausage fest mostly.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2272621]Google "saunaclub babylon" and choose the item with the word Anwesenheit. This gives you the roster. If you look at the roster for Monday 14th January, it shows that only 7 girls indicated that they would be present, and one of them is the masseuse. I would not take any of the other 6!
Better on Sunday. For example, the roster shows 23 girls to be present tomorrow, at least 2 of whom I would certainly have wanted to session with.[/QUOTE]Thanks, for the site, the lineup is effectively non existing as you said it. So I will most likely avoid Babylon Monday, was planning to hit samya Sunday but the site doesn't seem to show such a line up for Samya.
Shame I can't go to Babylon today the line up seems rich, but already have sth private lined up.
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2272731]At Pgtfg: Mondays a complete waste, Sundays eventually but surely not a great idea.
The club is rather dead on Sundays and almost completely dead om Mondays. A waste of time and money! The girls which show up on those quiet days are girls which work 7 days a week (sleepovers) or have another "reason" to show up on days where there are almost zero clients and zero atmosphere, most of them are "bad" service providers. Better and smarter to focus on other clubs which are worth it. In Babylon it has been simple for ages: Sunday till Wednesday: poor line-up in numbers, not a lot of clients. Not worthy of 60 Euro entry fur sure, a rip-off almost. Thursday till Saturday: more girls, more clients (especially when there are birthday parties of guests, which is the case almost every week-end or sometimes even more than 1 pro day), the few pretty girls are busy then and unavailable mostly, sausage fest mostly.[/QUOTE]Sometimes, some of the German team are working on Monday, with less than 15 girls. German team work on Wednesday.
[QUOTE=MrBen;2237657]Fri 26th Oct arrived by hire car (side note: the main car park is at the back of the building which is accessed from the road behind the club, once parked follow the signs from there to walk around to the entrance at the front), upon entry a bell is rung and some free girls line up at reception, one of the girls is selected to guide you around the club facilities. For my case, Laura. First of all, time to get changed as no clothed mongers allowed past this point, shower (the girls appreciate this regardless if you've already done so before arriving), and wear the towel provided. Note that robes are not given in this club (and no option to hire) but you can bring your own as some fellow mongers had done.
During the tour, I couldn't help noticing there was a fair amount of public action going on. Both outside by the pool (a guy getting a BBJ on one of the outdoor sun loungers in the unusually hot weather for Oct) and in the Kino (full sex). There was more public action later on as well I saw this in the wellness, outside in the garden and in the Kino, but never in the main lounge (but I expect it has happened on other nights). So, if you're into that thing, then I would recommend this club.[/QUOTE]How much did you pay per girl?
Hi guys,
Can anyone verify whether Alexa is indeed back?
I saw just a single entry in this week's roster. Unfortunately I had not been checking the roster for some time as I was not visiting Babylon in my recent trip, and so might have missed noticing her return. (She was my all time favorite in Babylon before she left.).
Thank you for any response!
At TankTank123:
Yes, Alexa was back for a short while but she's taking a break again. She'll be back in a while most probably!
Alexa was in Babylon last 2 weeks, but now she's back at home. She told me she will come back within a few weeks.
[QUOTE=Mechelen;2300841]Alexa was in Babylon last 2 weeks, but now she's back at home. She told me she will come back within a few weeks.[/QUOTE]Thank you! Will plan to go to Babylon in my next trip then.
I hope she has not grown even more during her lay-off. Used to look like a very slim and cute teenager when she first started, but became more mature-looking in the last 2 years before she left.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2300934]
I hope she has not grown even more during her lay-off. Used to look like a very slim and cute teenager when she first started, but became more mature-looking in the last 2 years before she left.[/QUOTE]She lost some weight, buts still she looks great.
Hey guys,
Anyone know where Mara (ex Christina. LR) is working these days? She still has a profile up at saunaclubs. Org, but hasn't been on the schedule for weeks. Someone on the German forum posted she went to Hamburg (no mention of which club) but then returned to Babylon for a day and no mention of her since January. Cheers.
[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2301086]Hey guys,
Anyone know where Mara (ex Christina. LR) is working these days? She still has a profile up at saunaclubs. Org, but hasn't been on the schedule for weeks. Someone on the German forum posted she went to Hamburg (no mention of which club)[/QUOTE]She's left heading to Hamburg indeed. Not working in a Sauna or FKK there.
Home after a fantastic weekend in FKK land!
Direct flight from Stockholm to Dusseldorf. I can stand 2 hours in a beercan for this. No problem.
Landed about 11 PM and went directly by rental car to Babylon.
Good first impression of the club and boy, did it last.
The desk told me it was around 40 girls in the club. Got a tour around the club by a Latina who appeared a bit bored but relaxed. Got the usual question if I want a room but I refused and took a stroll around the club to see the options. There was a older Romanian girl that approached me, do not remember her name but she was quite fun and I recognized her as the Romanian alfa of this club, am I right?
Anyway, I had some food and went up to the kino to relax and maybe get in the mood.
Nr 1: Looked at some porn and got approached by a skinny Bulgarian who offered me some fun. She was not cute but I had this fantastic experience in the kino in Mainhattan my last trip so I agreed. A good blowjob followed and I finished after about 40 min. Paid 100 Euro, a ok session, no more no less.
Went down to the sauna / whirlpool section to relax a bit and then headed out to the garden. Here I found a real nice Belgian guy who I spent a lot of time chatting with. He are a regular and gave me some advise for girls.
Now things started to reach another level, the German schlager went on and the mood rose.
The clientele is mostly German and Belgian I suppose. There was mongers dancing with the girls and the beer was flowing!
Nr. 2 I asked my newfound friend about a black girl sitting in the bar. She had not approached me and she had a amazing butt. He knew her well and introduced us. It turn out to be a really nice girl with a lot of joking and chatting. We went for a room of course, and what a session! This women blowjob skills are amazing, wet and hard, and at the same time looking at her fantastic ass sent me over the top! I think her name was Cheyenne or something.
Went for another go with the sauna and whirlpool and settled down in the main room trying to read a book. Then the alfa Romanian took the chair in front of me spreading her legs and rubbing her pussy giving me some shit about that I promised her a room. How could any sane male ignore that?? Anyway it apparently worked and I took her for a ride. It was good, she knows what she are doing, but "Cheyenne" was better. Hard to beat I guess.
20:30, time to leave. My hotel in cologne was supposed to close the check in at 22 so I had to go. Drove there and decided to give Samya a try. Bad experience of the club but 1 good session I give more details in Samya thread.
Insane party at techno club until 8 AM, woke up by the cleaning lady at 11 AM. New day, new adventures!
Went straight to Babylon again but decided that I must control myself, sessioned with 4 girls the day before. Must settle with max 3 for a full day or run out of juice "the white kind, not the green" heavy hangover so I relaxed for some hours before my first hit of the day.
Nr 5. Sat in the main room and this insanely beautiful girl start to touch me, former globe girl it turns out. She acts really bored but I ask her if she wants a session in the kino, nope, won't happen unless we have a threesome with her friend she replies. I argue that I only have one dick, how could I handle two girls? The argument do not stick so I move on to this cute, young looking girl with a nice natural chubby body that turn me on. She have no problem with the kino and I have a nice session while she sucks me and I have full access to her beautiful body.
Really lovely girl. She told me when 30 min had passed and I said I buy a hour. I came after 10 min and started packing up. She looked at me with her innocent eyes and said that there is still 20 min left? I said I really liked it but I was done. I'm that kind of guy. When I have cummed I just want be alone for a while. Love her attitude!
Rested for a couple of hours more while the party intensed in the bar. Really happy place!
I sat in the sauna with 3 other Belgian / German guests. No one spoke, the heat was intense, the only sound was the owen giving small clics and steaming. Now this small, cute, completely nude Romanian appears outside the glass wall of the sauna. She starts to perform a erotic dance while she mimics a blowjob and fucking. I have a hard time thinking of my former wife to keep my dick from going full bananas. The veterans did not bulge an inch. The time passes and she moves on.
Now one of the veterans break the silence. "this pinapple essence really improves the quality of the air in here". At this point I took a decision, I need to hold down my visits so I do not get that jaded.
Nr 6. Tried to get another bored young girl to the kino with no luck and could not find the sauna dancer so I went by myself to the Kino and found Cassandra there all alone. Had a nice session with a lot of DFK. Tried to fuck her without good result but now I took another decision, I really like good blowjobs, fuck I can do at home, lots of willing, divorced 30-40 year old women in Sweden. The problem is they cannot perform a good blowjob since they have been fed from birth that satisfying a man would downgrade them as women. When you have sex with a Swedish women it is always totally on her terms with her pleasure in focus. If you enjoy it is only a bonus. This is the reason they are divorced, Swedish men normally has to masturbate to have pleasure and sooner or later we discover that and divorce so we at least can save some money.
OK enough shit on Swedish women, when I left Cassandra and went for some finishing sauna / whirlpool I passed this girl with a outstanding hair color and haircut compared to the other. She had not approached me anything, just smiled at me a couple of times. This time she spread her legs when I passed and really had a pose that turned me on. However I stood firm I had my last session for the day, quit at 11:30, drove to Cologne, party at another techno club until 06:00, slept to 08:30 and could not fall asleep again, just thinking of those two girls I missed yesterday.
Left hotel at 10:30, drove to Babylon. Eat, sauna, whirlpool, even tougher hangover than previous day. Sex was not on my mind until approx. 2 PM.
Nr 7. She was there, the one with the haircut, happy happy joy joy!
I sat down in the chair beside her and made my request "you and me in the kino?
Answer "no" For phuk sake! She want to know why I want to do it in the kino. I say I like the thrill of looking at porn at the same time I have sex with pornstar material. I prepare to leave and she say "OK, lets go then?" me: "uh? To the kino?" she: "yes, of course".
I tell her I'm in no hurry and she replies "meetoo" then the most amazing blowjob follows. This was truly incredible, it was so perfect, she stretched it out for a whole hour and really loaded that cannon up! I told her that I think you have to take cover since this is going to be nasty. She finished with her hand and I cummed as I never have done before, the load would have made Peter North proud. When I came to my senses I saw her holding my dick and focus her sight on something behind my back. I asked her what it was and I will never forget her answer. "it was the cleaning lady, she just stood there in the door opening, like in chock, with her mouth open and her tongue out. Like. Like. Like. A dog!" She also told me that when we arrived there was a Asian sleeping there and a monger with girl making out but they had enough and left.
I first could not understand the scene but when I did I just burst out in laughter and could not stop!
Shall I be worried? Am I so perverted that I chock a cleaner in a German bordell I suppose I must be on another level of pervertness?
Her name is Bella and I will never forget her!
Now I was empty, totally and completely empty. Back to Sweden.
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2301726]Home after a fantastic weekend in FKK land!
Direct flight from Stockholm to Dusseldorf. I can stand 2 hours in a beercan for this. No problem.
Landed about 11 PM and went directly by rental car to Babylon.
Good first impression of the club and boy, did it last.
The desk told me it was around 40 girls in the club. Got a tour around the club by a Latina who appeared a bit bored but relaxed. Got the usual question if I want a room but I refused and took a stroll around the club to see the options. There was a older Romanian girl that approached me, do not remember her name but she was quite fun and I recognized her as the Romanian alfa of this club, am I right?
Anyway, I had some food and went up to the kino to relax and maybe get in the mood..[/QUOTE]Thank you for a great report. The thought of going at it in the Kino turns me on, but BBBJ is too important for me so I think I have to settle for the rooms.
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2301726]Home after a fantastic weekend in FKK land!
Direct flight from Stockholm to Dusseldorf. I can stand 2 hours in a beercan for this. No problem.
Landed about 11 PM and went directly by rental car to Babylon.
Good first impression of the club and boy, did it last.
The desk told me it was around 40 girls in the club. Got a tour around the club by a Latina who appeared a bit bored but relaxed. Got the usual question if I want a room but I refused and took a stroll around the club to see the options. There was a older Romanian girl that approached me, do not remember her name but she was quite fun and I recognized her as the Romanian alfa of this club, am I right?
Anyway, I had some food and went up to the kino to relax and maybe get in the mood.
Nr 1: Looked at some porn and got approached by a skinny Bulgarian who offered me some fun. She was not cute but I had this fantastic experience in the kino in Mainhattan my last trip so I agreed. A good blowjob followed and I finished after about 40 min. Paid 100 Euro, a ok session, no more no less.
Went down to the sauna / whirlpool section to relax a bit and then headed out to the garden. Here I found a real nice Belgian guy who I spent a lot of time chatting with. He are a regular and gave me some advise for girls.
Now things started to reach another level, the German schlager went on and the mood rose.
The clientele is mostly German and Belgian I suppose. There was mongers dancing with the girls and the beer was flowing!..[/QUOTE]In sauna the rule is to keep quite and not to speak I hate being with guys in the sauna chatting about girls and disturbing the others people.
[QUOTE=KalleKula;2302026]Thank you for a great report. The thought of going at it in the Kino turns me on, but BBBJ is too important for me so I think I have to settle for the rooms.[/QUOTE]At Bab Elsdorf, even in lounge in public, condoms are rare.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2302150]At Bab Elsdorf, even in lounge in public, condoms are rare.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
I suppose you are talking about BBBJ and not BBFS?
Is "public affection" common at Babylon? I imagined that to be a thing of the past.
I'm starting to save money now. This may be an expensive trip!
The only thing that worries me is that I never see more than 2 black girls on the roster, it used to be at least 4-5.
[QUOTE=Mechelen;2300841]Alexa was in Babylon last 2 weeks, but now she's back at home. She told me she will come back within a few weeks.[/QUOTE]Was away for 10 days, but now back in town this beautiful young MILF!
[QUOTE=KalleKula;2302411]I suppose you are talking about BBBJ and not BBFS? Is "public affection" common at Babylon? I imagined that to be a thing of the past.[/QUOTE]I been there once last year and I saw a couple of girls who did BBBJ in public.
[QUOTE=KalleKula;2302411]Thank you.
I suppose you are talking about BBBJ and not BBFS?
Is "public affection" common at Babylon? I imagined that to be a thing of the past.
I'm starting to save money now. This may be an expensive trip!
The only thing that worries me is that I never see more than 2 black girls on the roster, it used to be at least 4-5.[/QUOTE]If You are excited about, really no problem to have public sex and not only in kino, but in lounge, at the bar, at Bab. For black girls, You have also at GT in dark kino for natural BJ with no problem. No upselling at Bab or GT, staff ask girls to please clients. CIM at GT is 25.
[QUOTE=KalleKula;2302411]Is "public affection" common at Babylon? I imagined that to be a thing of the past.[/QUOTE]Yep, I noticed public affection in the kino and in the relax. I like it so I try to do my part. I cannot say I get horny by looking but I feel it contributes to the atmosphere.
Some girls do not like it since they feel that the viewing / wanking bystanders are getting it for free. I'm not sure how to react on that. Is it a part of the game or are they in their right?
There was only 2 "black" girls there if you are referring to Belgian girls with Congolesian heritage? There was as well some south american girls I think. Anyway, the girl I sessioned with was totally fantastic so I think she are enough for your perversions! When do you plan to travel?
Who was your claiming to be ex Globe, girl at Bab?
[QUOTE=KalleKula;2302411]Thank you.
I suppose you are talking about BBBJ and not BBFS?
Is "public affection" common at Babylon? I imagined that to be a thing of the past.
I'm starting to save money now. This may be an expensive trip!
The only thing that worries me is that I never see more than 2 black girls on the roster, it used to be at least 4-5.[/QUOTE]Public sex (in lounge, bar, kino etc literally anywhere in the club) is very common in Babylon in the past as well as now. In fact their management boasts about public action to be special attraction of Babylon compared to it's competition clubs. It's also one of the very few real FKKs in NRW where girls are always fully naked wearing only high heel shoes.
It's between you and the WG if your public sex includes BBBJ and / or AO (BBFS) in Babylon. Very few other low business girls may not like if you two are doing BBFS in public, but most of the girls, customers and the management will not care. Management just tells the WGs to make the customers happy, that's all.
If you are looking for many black girls, Germany doesn't really have much options. Since you are saving money for this trip, if black girls are your main targets, maybe you should look into traveling to Brazil. Consider Rio (Termas which are similar to German FKK format) or Sao Paolo (Clinicas which are small brothels with madams managing them). Also, Brazil tend to be cheaper than Germany, on a per fuck or per extra basis.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2302593]Who was your claiming to be ex Globe, girl at Bab?[/QUOTE]I tried to find her on the pictures, since I fail to remember her name, but with no success. I think she has a zigzag tattoo around her neck but not so many other tattoos and she are a real beauty. Too beautiful for my perversions apparently! She seems to be a regular since she was there Friday, Saturday and Sunday the whole time.
Current Babylon girls who worked in Switzerland are Claire and Kellie. I would think we are talking about Claire at the moment.
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2302976]I tried to find her on the pictures, since I fail to remember her name, but with no success. I think she has a zigzag tattoo around her neck but not so many other tattoos and she are a real beauty. Too beautiful for my perversions apparently! She seems to be a regular since she was there Friday, Saturday and Sunday the whole time.[/QUOTE]If she really comes from Globe. Ch, she should be used to public sex, so many guys, not the best looking, at Globe need to show they fuck pretty girls. Kelli doesn't seem to be a public sex girl, even tells to come from Bumsalp. Ch.
Arrived at this club around 5 pm. I liked the layout and couch sections. Food was OK and facilities were new.
However casting in my opinion was terrible. Even lower quality than Happy Garden. Cannot compare to Goldentime casting IMO.
Maybe I arrived on a bad day.
I did see public BBBJ going on in the kino. They were even playing porn in the bar area. Clientele seems better than Turkish club.
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2302976]I tried to find her on the pictures, since I fail to remember her name, but with no success. I think she has a zigzag tattoo around her neck but not so many other tattoos and she are a real beauty. Too beautiful for my perversions apparently! She seems to be a regular since she was there Friday, Saturday and Sunday the whole time.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls are regular, I don't believe this story I am student, or I need money I just do it 2 days per week, in fact the girls work every day but in different places, the girls are creating stories to attract more mongers. Students will not work in a FKK but will do escort or better find a sugar daddy who will support her.
I don t know when You visit but there are some girls at Bab who are prettier than 90% of GT girls at the moment, and much more fresh natural.
Bab bad point would be to increase entry to 70, when Palace make discount to 50 € , like Oase or Sharks.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2303597]I don t know when You visit but there are some girls at Bab who are prettier than 90% of GT girls at the moment, and much more fresh natural.
Bab bad point would be to increase entry to 70, when Palace make discount to 50 , like Oase or Sharks.[/QUOTE]You are right but GT and Babylon girls are for me all overfucked. So no go place for me.
Hello,
As can be seen from the timeline of my previous posts, it has been sometime since I have been a contributor. I have been away from Europe but now I am back. This time with my girl friend. We are both open minded and she is intrigued by the idea of visiting a FKK / Sauna Club with me. I posted earlier in the week in the lounge asking about which club would be the best for a first time couple. Babylon was recommended. I think that we will plan a trip from Frankfurt (where we now live) up to Koln because I want her first experience to be good. Not really looking for a swingers club as she wants to have the FKK experience. I have never been to Babylon (more of a GT, LR or ACA guy when in the NRW area), so I know nothing about the place. She is interested in exhibitionism (walking around naked), 3 some with ladies (lady dependent I understand) and maybe even a 3 some with another male guest and myself (no financial exchange). I have read Babylon's website and it seems that the club is accepting of this. Did I get good advice? Do many couples visit? Is there one day that may be better than others for a visit? Any other general tips about Babylon for a couple would be most welcome. Going to a FKK as a couple will be a new experience for me and I don't think I have seen a couple in a FKK but once before and I really didn't pay much attention to them.
Thanks,
KY.
[QUOTE=KyDaddy;2303939]Hello,
As can be seen from the timeline of my previous posts, it has been sometime since I have been a contributor. I have been away from Europe but now I am back. This time with my girl friend. We are both open minded and she is intrigued by the idea of visiting a FKK / Sauna Club with me. I posted earlier in the week in the lounge asking about which club would be the best for a first time couple. Babylon was recommended. I think that we will plan a trip from Frankfurt (where we now live) up to Koln because I want her first experience to be good. Not really looking for a swingers club as she wants to have the FKK experience. I have never been to Babylon (more of a GT, LR or ACA guy when in the NRW area), so I know nothing about the place. She is interested in exhibitionism (walking around naked), 3 some with ladies (lady dependent I understand) and maybe even a 3 some with another male guest and myself (no financial exchange). I have read Babylon's website and it seems that the club is accepting of this..[/QUOTE]I saw woman guests at Sharks, World, LR, but I don't remember at Bab.
[QUOTE=KyDaddy;2303939]She is interested in exhibitionism (walking around naked), 3 some with ladies (lady dependent I understand) and maybe even a 3 some with another male guest and myself (no financial exchange). ... Do many couples visit? Is there one day that may be better than others for a visit?[/QUOTE]Sometimes do couples visit. Sometimes, but many couples? I don't know. Threesome MFF is possible, just ask the girls. Threesome MMF will not be tolerated, either paid nor not-paid. Avoid Mondays, it's usually a very calm day. Sometimes Friday and Saturday evenings / nights are a little bit busy.
I think she'll have to wear a towel or something. Only the working girls are nude.
[QUOTE=KyDaddy;2303939]Hello,
[/QUOTE]Hi, see my response to you in the Lounge thread.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2304191]...Threesome MMF will not be tolerated, either paid nor not-paid...[/QUOTE]Good to know, thank you. Their website implies something else: "Open minded women who like to have fun without payment. And men too. Are welcome to find partners in the FKK-club, if that turns you on. Some couples prefer to mix business with pleasure, in which case the general rules for our female guests apply. " Glad I asked. Thanks.
KY.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2304105]I saw woman guests at Sharks, World, LR, but I don't remember at Bab.[/QUOTE]I have been told clearly that Sharks does not allow female guests any longer.
[QUOTE=KyDaddy;2304336]I have been told clearly that Sharks does not allow female guests any longer.[/QUOTE]Correct. Sharks didn't allow my "girlfriend" to enter last summer. Oase, Mainhattan, Palace and World nicely welcomed us but she had to wear robe except for kino or obviously in the room with me, and no public sex allowed with her except for in the kino. Babylon allowed her to be naked everywhere and we could also do public actions ourselves anywhere we wanted. We didn't look for any FFM or MMF actions, so can't tell how that goes in Babylon.
How do the other guest differentiate your GF from the WGs?
[QUOTE=KyDaddy;2304336]I have been told clearly that Sharks does not allow female guests any longer.[/QUOTE]Times changed at Sharks, like for beauties. Woman guests on Summer 2016, Dina going for FFM.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2304601]How do the other guest differentiate your GF from the WGs?[/QUOTE]Good question, this is why I came here to ask about Babylon, its couples policy and the general vibe for couples.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2304601]How do the other guest differentiate your GF from the WGs?[/QUOTE]GF wears that key hung with a lanyard round her neck. That was how I once stopped myself at the last minute from approaching someone's pretty girlfriend.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2304583]Correct. Sharks didn't allow my "girlfriend" to enter last summer. Oase, Mainhattan, Palace and World nicely welcomed us but she had to wear robe except for kino or obviously in the room with me, and no public sex allowed with her except for in the kino. Babylon allowed her to be naked everywhere and we could also do public actions ourselves anywhere we wanted. We didn't look for any FFM or MMF actions, so can't tell how that goes in Babylon.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the answer Gino. Greatly appreciate the information. I assume your GF used the same changing room and shower as you and the other male guests at all the places you went? How did getting a room to have sex with your "GF" go at the places other than Babylon? It has been a while since I have been to World, Palace and Oase and I don't remember if ladies had to go fetch keys after agreeing to room time or if it was simply a matter of finding an empty room. I also seem to recall some sort of situation of having to get sheets from the management. The business of the ladies that I never paid attention to in the past that is now something that is good to know. If you never pursued FFM while in the clubs, did you go simply to give her the experience of seeing these places first hand?
KY.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2304601]How do the other guest differentiate your GF from the WGs?[/QUOTE]Sorry if my previous reply seemed flippant- not meant to be.
KY.
I read on ijsberenforum "Entrance to Babylon will go from € 60 to € 70 from 1 May. ".
[QUOTE=Downandup;2305877]I read on ijsberenforum "Entrance to Babylon will go from 60 to 70 from 1 May.".[/QUOTE]Even good foods with great breakfast, good drinks, great jacuzzi for balls massage, new spa, good room number 1 , new outside swimming pool, Alexa now blond BJ to CIM in public, pretty girls like Barbie, Kity, Mikaela. De, Tamara. De, Kelli, Claire, both ex Bumsalp which is killed by Globe, friendly staff, Eddy giving me remote to watch ski Worldcup, but Oase and Palace have entry for 50, that s crisis in FKK land, less and less crowded, we are poor, 70 is too expensive, girls will cry more and more for lack of business.
[QUOTE=KyDaddy;2304714]Thanks for the answer Gino. Greatly appreciate the information. I assume your GF used the same changing room and shower as you and the other male guests at all the places you went? How did getting a room to have sex with your "GF" go at the places other than Babylon? It has been a while since I have been to World, Palace and Oase and I don't remember if ladies had to go fetch keys after agreeing to room time or if it was simply a matter of finding an empty room. I also seem to recall some sort of situation of having to get sheets from the management. The business of the ladies that I never paid attention to in the past that is now something that is good to know. If you never pursued FFM while in the clubs, did you go simply to give her the experience of seeing these places first hand?
KY.[/QUOTE]Changing rooms and showers: Same for all customers, male or female in all clubs.
World and Mainhattan: Get towels from reception area and find an empty room.
Oase: Get room keys and towels from front bar.
Palace: Get room keys and bed sheets from the wall of room keys (sometimes they will have a lady there managing the keys).
Babylon: We didn't go to any room, so no idea how that works.
We went to these clubs for her to experience how an FKK is inside. Not worth it as it costs a lot for the couples entries with too many restrictions for the woman, except for in Babylon where you can have public sex.
Hopefully you are asking all these (too many) questions to actually go there with your girl, not just to build a story in your head. If you are into writing field reports, please share one after you and your girl experience it in reality.
The raise of the entry price will be either May or June according to regular guests. A ridiculous pricing off course but that's one of the main reasons most regular guests all invite each other every other week-end to the numerous birthday-parties where "friends" get a reduction on the entry fee. Simply ridiculous! The entry fee for the girls was raised last year and they want to raise it again. May end up to become a nasty boomerang hitting the club with a vengeance, who knows?
[QUOTE=Gino02;2306020]
Babylon: We didn't go to any room, so no idea how that works.[/QUOTE]Girl takes key and signs her name on the room booking sheet.
Like the roster on their website, this is another great thing I find about Babylon: by studying the room booking form, I can find out whether a favorite girl I have not caught sight of is already in a room, and also when she went in!
[QUOTE=Gino02;2306020] ... Hopefully you are asking all these (too many) questions to actually go there with your girl, not just to build a story in your head. If you are into writing field reports, please share one after you and your girl experience it in reality.[/QUOTE]Gino,
Again, thank you for sharing your experience with me. You have experience (as do other members) that I do not have in regard to taking a GF to a FKK. That is why I am asking questions. However, I am a little put off by your last statement and I am sure that you did not mean it the way that you stated it. You and I are both Senior Members with some experience but not as much as others. You have roughly 30 more posts than me. As I look through your posts, it appears that you answer a lot of questions from those who need advice and assistance. That is a good thing as this is part of the reason why we are here, to learn from each other. I appreciate that you take the time to answer people's questions. However, as I compare my posts to your posts, it appears that I have posted far more reports that fit what most consider to be "field reports" than you. That's OK. You provide to the community in your way, answering (and sometimes asking) questions- its all good. But please, there is no need for the high horse attitude towards me (or anyone else) for asking legitimate questions. Best wishes, KY.
Had a couple of hours to kill close to Cologne, so decided to try out short visit to Babylon as I was in the neigbourhood anyway. Found the rear parking lot without too much driving around, and entered the place around 3 pm. Lady at reception was nice and I got the 1 hour entrance at 30 euro. After asking me if it was the first (indeed), she called over a girl to show me around. Not much of a looker, but she showed me to the lockers and said she would wait for me outside. Showered and wrapped in a towel, I went back to recption, and the girl supposed to give me the tour was no longer there. Didn't really care much for a tour but, reception lady insisted and called over Karla to show me around. Nice girl with a slim frame and a friendly smile. Karla gave me the tour of the place, although I must admit that I was mostly looking at her small, but greatly shaped ass. Even though small, it had the slight pear shape to it that I find very sexy.
There were not many guests, perhaps 10-12 or so, but possibly about 25-30 girls. Some did look a bit bored (and said as much laterj. In general the LU was not bad. Surprisingly little silly cone and not too many tattos, mostly natural slim girls. Really not bad. Many other FKK look like the anteroom of a plastic surgery clinic running a tattoo sideline. In the upstairs cinema a guy was having DATY and a plumb girl was looking bored in the opposite corner. So much for the advertized porne Tuesday, but maybe that's later in the day.
After the tour I was left to myself, and had a coffe and a cigarette in the smoking lounge. I then walked out in pool area and enjoyed the sun a bit. Nice weather. Anyhow, as I didn't come to sunbathe for an hour, so I decided that maybe I should just go for Karla and her lovely ass. And just as that thought struck, out comes Karla so I smiled at her and she came over and sat on my lap. She is really a very sweet girl, so we quickly agreed to go to a room.
In the room she was very much giving the GFE, light and sensually kissing, which is something I otherwise rarely do. From kissing she went to a very well performed BBBJ. Not asking nor upselling it. She reacted promptly to my hints and put her lovely ass in my face, while keeping up the BBBJ. I almost finished right away so had to stop her, and she almost jumped off and nearly apologized. Then followed a bit of DATY, then doggy and several other positions, including standing up in front of the mirror. I even asked her to walk around a little to watch that ass of hers, then taking her right there. Not the least bit of complaint, just genuinly good service and doing everything I asked of her without hesitation. When my 30 min was almost up, I asked her to finish CIM, which she did as a champ and with eye contact.
Very good service, I would definately repeat given the chance. Damage 100 incl the CIM.
After the seesion, my time was up and I had to make a move for an appointment. But left with a smile on my face.
[QUOTE=KyDaddy;2306165]Gino,
Again, thank you for sharing your experience with me. You have experience (as do other members) that I do not have in regard to taking a GF to a FKK. That is why I am asking questions. However, I am a little put off by your last statement and I am sure that you did not mean it the way that you stated it. You and I are both Senior Members with some experience but not as much as others. You have roughly 30 more posts than me. As I look through your posts, it appears that you answer a lot of questions from those who need advice and assistance. That is a good thing as this is part of the reason why we are here, to learn from each other. I appreciate that you take the time to answer people's questions. However, as I compare my posts to your posts, it appears that I have posted far more reports that fit what most consider to be "field reports" than you. That's OK. You provide to the community in your way, answering (and sometimes asking) questions- its all good. But please, there is no need for the high horse attitude towards me (or anyone else) for asking legitimate questions. Best wishes, KY.[/QUOTE]You probably didn't realize how many questions you asked on the same general topic on several threads. Enjoying an FKK with your girl is an experience you need to plunge into without getting hung up on too many little nuances of each of the clubs, as long as the club openly welcomes you two. Now that you have that information, hopefully you will enjoy the real experience with your girl.
It doesn't matter who's more senior to whom on these forums. It does matter though who helps others on the board, like we had Kosher Kowboy who from the very first post was helpful and entertaining. I suck at writing trip reports, so I don't even try.
Looking forward to your report on couples FKK trip.
Babylon is as good as ever, today was quiet with not too many customers nor girls. Most of the girls were really good looking if a little too thin. It was nice not to see any silicone.
[QUOTE=Downandup;2308703]Babylon is as good as ever, today was quiet with not too many customers nor girls. Most of the girls were really good looking if a little too thin. It was nice not to see any silicone.[/QUOTE]Sunday is usually not the best casting day, compare to Wednesday to Saturday. Good foods, but 70 for entry will be too expensive compare to some 50 € entry clubs with better casting.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2304703]Times changed at Sharks, like for beauties. Woman guests on Summer 2016, Dina going for FFM.[/QUOTE]What is FFM?
[QUOTE=Downandup;2308703]Babylon is as good as ever, today was quiet with not too many customers nor girls. Most of the girls were really good looking if a little too thin. It was nice not to see any silicone.[/QUOTE]Yes, You were lucky on this Sunday with pretty Kelli and Claire working. Not often on Sunday. Both ex Bumsalp. Ch.
[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2309019]What is FFM?[/QUOTE]On Summer 2016, I saw Dina. Hu in the garden with a man who came with a woman, his woman was also full naked and they went for 3 some. I liked to look at Dina walking full naked on high heels, with sunglasses, in the garden, when I was having breakfast, best meal of the day. My breakfast with Tamara were delightful, when she smiled and with her blue eyes, what a wow girl on June 2018 at Sharks.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;2303078]Current Babylon girls who worked in Switzerland are Claire and Kellie. I would think we are talking about Claire at the moment.[/QUOTE]Indeed both worked in CH. Kelly worked in other clubs in CH (she did not manage to get into Globe, if you session with her, you understand why), Claire did, but did not survive there. Both are nice looking girls (the best looking in Babylon) but on service level are not more than "ok", nothing special and certainly not at Globe level in that respect.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2309111]Indeed both worked in CH. Kelly worked in other clubs in CH (she did not manage to get into Globe, if you session with her, you understand why), Claire did, but did not survive there. Both are nice looking girls (the best looking in Babylon) but on service level are not more than "ok", nothing special and certainly not at Globe level in that respect.[/QUOTE]One is great kisser with also real skill and looking at your reactions for BJ, other can be super GFE real woman asking for pleasure, not far from Globe level, when You treat her to give her will to please You. 2 lovely Romanians.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2308707]Sunday is usually not the best casting day, compare to Wednesday to Saturday. Good foods, but 70 for entry will be too expensive compare to some 50 entry clubs with better casting.[/QUOTE]What clubs have better casting? I've just left Samya and it does not compete.
[QUOTE=Downandup;2309179]What clubs have better casting? I've just left Samya and it does not compete.[/QUOTE]For sure, if You go to Samya on Monday, then I can't do anything for you, but you were quite lucky about Bab casting for a Sunday.
I returned to Babylon yesterday and the lineup was fairly good, it did not seem very different to my last visit and it was a good day. The was some public sex in the lounge a couple of times and might have been more outside. If anyone is a fan of Jessie from Living Room, then she has started here.
I'm off to Franconia where the clubs are small, the reputation is poor but on the way I shall fortify myself with a stop at Dietzenbach. A few days rest will recharge myself for my final few days in Dusseldorf.
Nice FKK but does not compare with Bernds of old. Tina the lady at the reception was a darling.
Chayna The African Belgian showed me around.
Sessioned with her to get things started.
Very nice BJ and fair enough overall skills.
Lively lady.
Next there was a Bulgarian lady. I do not remember her name but she is possibly the thinnest lady there with dark hair; possibly in her 40's. She is a disaster in every way. Left her in 15 minutes even without trying to cum.
The next was Merissa. Blonde, Romanian Beautiful, extremely pleasant and bed skills to match the very very best. Spent an hour with het.
It is a pity that, you have to go through all the mechanical muck at FKKs to come across such gems. Merissa is one such.
These women define what an FKK experience should be like.
Because of Easter (this weekend Orthodox) of course not so many girls now. And since management of the club made the unbelievable decision to increase the entrance fee next week (for men to 70 euro, for girls to even more!) it will be interesting to see how this affects the lineup. It is nice club, with nice gems with good service, but entrance should be equal to 40 euro (as it was 2 years ago) or 50 euro max.
And since a year the service levels are of newbees are not so critically monitored anymore, so the main USP of this club is getting less and less special. SC Venus becomes more attractive this way. Many people will vote with their wallet, so let's see!
I read elsewhere that during a raid a guy was seen to be getting a BBBJ and that an officer went to guys in rooms asking if they were using condoms.
Secondhand information so I can't verify. Nor do I interpret it in any particular way.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2314152]I read elsewhere that during a raid a guy was seen to be getting a BBBJ and that an officer went to guys in rooms asking if they were using condoms.
Secondhand information so I can't verify. Nor do I interpret it in any particular way.[/QUOTE]Can be true, but for sure it is the minimum the police officer has to do but I am sure without any consequences for the mongers, who cares about the health of Romanian prostitutes as long they are paying the taxes.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2314127]Because of Easter (this weekend Orthodox) of course not so many girls now. And since management of the club made the unbelievable decision to increase the entrance fee next week (for men to 70 euro, for girls to even more!) it will be interesting to see how this affects the lineup. It is nice club, with nice gems with good service, but entrance should be equal to 40 euro (as it was 2 years ago) or 50 euro max.
And since a year the service levels are of newbees are not so critically monitored anymore, so the main USP of this club is getting less and less special. SC Venus becomes more attractive this way. Many people will vote with their wallet, so let's see![/QUOTE]Yes, even good foods, good spa, outside swimming pool, few pretty and GFE girls, can watch ski, but 70 € entry is too expensive for a poor guy like me. Some big clubs have 50 € entry.
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Next there was a Bulgarian lady. I do not remember her name but she is possibly the thinnest lady there with dark hair; possibly in her 40's. She is a disaster in every way. Left her in 15 minutes even without trying to cum.[/QUOTE]I guess you are talking about Mirella. 38 years old, shortish and slim. I've been visiting the club for years, and Mirella is one out of two really bad experiences I have had in the club. The other was a girls in summer 2017 who only stayed in the club some weeks.
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Rather depleted line up yesterday. Usually, tyere would be about 30+ girls on a Thursday, but yesterday there were barely 20. Fits my estimate that in general there is a 30% reduction over Orthodox Easter in many of the clubs.
What is worse, it was well patronised by men. Many customers continually prowled the area near the room-booking form so as to be able to snap up any good ones coming out to sign out. As such, those few better girls left were continuously booked, leaving less than a handful of the less attractive one available on the couches. Fortunately, one of my favorites was present to make my visit reasonably but not entirely worthwhile.
Can you confirm that the entrance is now 70 euros? I thought it would be depleted from men after the raise.
[QUOTE=IndianInFkk;2313878]Nice FKK but does not compare with Bernds of old. Tina the lady at the reception was a darling.
Chayna The African Belgian showed me around.
Sessioned with her to get things started.
Very nice BJ and fair enough overall skills.
Lively lady.
Next there was a Bulgarian lady. I do not remember her name but she is possibly the thinnest lady there with dark hair; possibly in her 40's. She is a disaster in every way. Left her in 15 minutes even without trying to cum.
The next was Merissa. Blonde, Romanian Beautiful, extremely pleasant and bed skills to match the very very best. Spent an hour with het.
It is a pity that, you have to go through all the mechanical muck at FKKs to come across such gems. Merissa is one such.
These women define what an FKK experience should be like.[/QUOTE]Hopefully Marissa will be there this August! That's when I plan to be there.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2314152]I read elsewhere that during a raid a guy was seen to be getting a BBBJ and that an officer went to guys in rooms asking if they were using condoms.
Secondhand information so I can't verify. Nor do I interpret it in any particular way.[/QUOTE]That is correct, my source did mention there was a control action (that happens more often), but this time not only for correct registration / IDs of the girls, they also entered some busy rooms (without knocking) and then noticed (illegal) BBBJ and then the men involved were registered also (don't know if they were fined yet, but they announced they will receive a fine shortly).
Chances for a quick follow up check / control action are high, since officially BBBJ is not allowed anymore in Germany
(good timing with the raise of the entrance price to 70 euro..............).
[QUOTE=Maxime;2316264]That is correct, my source did mention there was a control action (that happens more often), but this time not only for correct registration / IDs of the girls, they also entered some busy rooms (without knocking) and then noticed (illegal) BBBJ and then the men involved were registered also (don't know if they were fined yet, but they announced they will receive a fine shortly).
Chances for a quick follow up check / control action are high, since officially BBBJ is not allowed anymore in Germany
(good timing with the raise of the entrance price to 70 euro..............).[/QUOTE]Married guy receiving at home and wife taking in post box, surprise surprise.
The correct info is that during the raid some of the rooms were being visited and at least 1 client has been charged because of BBFucking and most probably he will be fined heavily. Some other clients were being "caught" during BBBJ and they were registered and will be fined most probably as well. Will be nice if the mail arrives at home and their missus / wife / girlfriend receives the letter. Other clients were left unnoticed as it should be. Play with fire and you'll get burned!
As mentioned before in my last post (page below): completely stupid to raise the entry-price for both clients and girls. The club ain't worth 60 E, 70 E is completely ridiculous and for the girls to start the day minus-100 at least (without transport or extra sleep-in-costs, 2nd raise for them in 18 months or so) is outrageous. On a few days the amount of girls outnumber the amount of clients, imagine how they make decent profit on those days? Maybe by offering extras as mentioned above to try to link the consumer to them "exclusively"? Ridiculous. And on the busy days they will have to stress and fuck like rabbits and start to upsell to recover from the "bad" weekdays. This place has been going downside since a lot of years. It seems they just want to cash and milk the cows.
Maxime. Good to get info from an experienced guy like yourself. I guess we just have to see if this was just part of a local authority's initiative or if it is a straw in the wind generally.
It maybe the condom control in occupied rooms was limited to the enthusiastic female officer.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2316264] they also entered some busy rooms (without knocking) and then noticed (illegal) BBBJ and then the men involved were registered also (don't know if they were fined yet, but they announced they will receive a fine shortly).
[/QUOTE]I wonder how they would send the fine to the men involved especially if they are not Germans with EU ID? I don't carry my passport along with me at all times when in Germany.
I remember getting a speeding ticket once from the Polizei, and they wanted me to pay the fine right on the spot. They would not even accept cash and insisted on payment with a credit card, least they are accused of soliciting bribes. I wonder they would do the same thing, got caught with a BBBJ, just pay the fine on the spot and be done with it. If they do that, then it will be no big deal I guess.
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2316316]The correct info is that during the raid some of the rooms were being visited and at least 1 client has been charged because of BBFucking and most probably he will be fined heavily. Some other clients were being "caught" during BBBJ and they were registered and will be fined most probably as well. Will be nice if the mail arrives at home and their missus / wife / girlfriend receives the letter. Other clients were left unnoticed as it should be. Play with fire and you'll get burned! Snip[/QUOTE]A $2 door stop could have prevented a lot of trouble for those guys.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2316240]Can you confirm that the entrance is now 70 euros? I thought it would be depleted from men after the raise.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is now 70 Euros. But men on Thursday was as plentiful as before.
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2316316] This place has been going downside since a lot of years. [/QUOTE]I can't agree with this statement. The club has had serious renovation with the wellness center and pool outside. The furniture is nice and the food is passable. It's not a cut above the rest and I won't support the €70 entrance price.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2316264]That is correct, my source did mention there was a control action (that happens more often), but this time not only for correct registration / IDs of the girls, they also entered some busy rooms (without knocking) and then noticed (illegal) BBBJ and then the men involved were registered also (don't know if they were fined yet, but they announced they will receive a fine shortly).
Chances for a quick follow up check / control action are high, since officially BBBJ is not allowed anymore in Germany.[/QUOTE]What time of the day / evening was this? I assume it was at night when busiest, and that's why they were able to catch so many guys breaking the law. I've only seen two inspections (both at LR), and they were earlier in the day and they didn't go into any of the rooms.
70 euros is of a rip-off for Babylon. They don't even provide robes and are stingy with the bigger towels.
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2316316]The correct info is that during the raid some of the rooms were being visited and at least 1 client has been charged because of BBFucking and most probably he will be fined heavily. Some other clients were being "caught" during BBBJ and they were registered and will be fined most probably as well. Will be nice if the mail arrives at home and their missus / wife / girlfriend receives the letter. Other clients were left unnoticed as it should be. Play with fire and you'll get burned!
As mentioned before in my last post (page below): completely stupid to raise the entry-price for both clients and girls. The club ain't worth 60 E, 70 E is completely ridiculous and for the girls to start the day minus-100 at least (without transport or extra sleep-in-costs, 2nd raise for them in 18 months or so) is outrageous. On a few days the amount of girls outnumber the amount of clients, imagine how they make decent profit on those days? Maybe by offering extras as mentioned above to try to link the consumer to them "exclusively"? Ridiculous. And on the busy days they will have to stress and fuck like rabbits and start to upsell to recover from the "bad" weekdays. This place has been going downside since a lot of years. It seems they just want to cash and milk the cows.[/QUOTE]I know you know clubs, so Eddy really improved his club with new spa, outside swimming pool. Foods are better than at GT and of course LR, on YY level for me. Sometimes can find some beauties like Barbie, Angel becoming Kity, Mikaela, Tamara, Kelli, Claire, so I had no problem to pay same entry rate than at GT, and Bab club services are higher level than at LR. Eddy gave me remote, even not a regular but he really wants to please clients, to watch my ski. But I agree 70 is now the most expensive when Palace or Oase lowered to 50 . Like at Bernds, we know what services are offered by some Bab girls to get business, they would not get much with safe sex. But to be honest, yesterday at GT, a new beauty asked me for BJ with or without? How do You think I got? But I free ride since 30 years without helmet and I m free, I don't return to my wife after. But I agree with you on 1 point, even I will always need beauty to enjoy, but GT is on average the best level for sex in Germany, higher than Bab and LR now when performers like Daria or Jeni. Ro left. But sometimes can find a great girl anywhere and I never thought I would on such level at fucking tourists Oase, but among many low level girls.
[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2316540]I wonder how they would send the fine to the men involved especially if they are not Germans with EU ID? I don't carry my passport along with me at all times when in Germany.[/QUOTE]I think it is obliged in Germany to carry an ID at any time (as it is in more EU countries). At least in your locker (when you are in a FKK that seems the most logical place :))
[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2316650]What time of the day / evening was this? I assume it was at night when busiest, and that's why they were able to catch so many guys breaking the law. I've only seen two inspections (both at LR), and they were earlier in the day and they didn't go into any of the rooms.
70 euros is of a rip-off for Babylon. They don't even provide robes and are stingy with the bigger towels.[/QUOTE]I was for 2 registration controls at LR, it was funny because no more ashtray in lounge, I remember girls had to go to smoke outside on March, putting on towel. What was great was many guys left, so had my ex Eve full free only for me and yes, police who blocked all exists even to the garden, also entered rooms, 3 times during one of my rooms with her, she showed number they gave her and we kept on, maybe they thought I was too long to cum, but I was never controlled on any controls when I visited.
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2316316]The correct info is that during the raid some of the rooms were being visited and at least 1 client has been charged because of BBFucking and most probably he will be fined heavily. Some other clients were being "caught" during BBBJ and they were registered and will be fined most probably as well. Will be nice if the mail arrives at home and their missus / wife / girlfriend receives the letter. Other clients were left unnoticed as it should be. Play with fire and you'll get burned.[/QUOTE]Hopefully, these letters would be delivered in German rather than in English, and would most likely appear as gibberish to non German speakers.
Anyway, all these Polizeirazzia are really sucking the fun out of the FKK experience.
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Anyway, all these Polizeirazzia are really sucking the fun out of the FKK experience.[/QUOTE]I doubt this direction will change until a pro-business true-Catholic anti-feminist male (or an ex-hooker or ex-madam female who was successful in prostitution) Chancellor comes to the office in Germany.
[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2317433]Hopefully, these letters would be delivered in German rather than in English, and would most likely appear as gibberish to non German speakers.
Anyway, all these Polizeirazzia are really sucking the fun out of the FKK experience.[/QUOTE]Maybe guys involved were German, many go to AO.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2317463]I doubt this direction will change until a pro-business true-Catholic anti-feminist male (or an ex-hooker or ex-madam female who was successful in prostitution) Chancellor comes to the office in Germany.[/QUOTE]Has anyone been to Bab during or since the control, or do we all just know somebody who said. I'm curious what such a control would do to service levels and the impact on upselling.
Any guesses on what is the impact on your next entry into Schengen if you are caught red handed and (bare back dick) in one of these raids?
I am so sorry to have to express my total disappointment for the increase in the admission price from € 60 to € 70.
I think, like many other visitors, that the price of € 60 was already too high compared to the facilities that the club offers compared to the facilities offered by other clubs in the area (Magnum, Samya, Golden Time) for a lower price.
The increase to € 70 is completely unjustified and absurd. For this reason, I, like many other visitors, will no longer go to the club until the price has returned to at least € 60.
I also see that since the beginning of May, due to this price increase, the number of visitors and, consequently, the number of guest girls has already decreased. First it was 46/48. Now it does not reach 30.
I find all this an absurd business decision.
[QUOTE=UniversoFkk;2318888]I am so sorry to have to express my total disappointment for the increase in the admission price from 60 to 70.
I think, like many other visitors, that the price of 60 was already too high compared to the facilities that the club offers compared to the facilities offered by other clubs in the area (Magnum, Samya, Golden Time) for a lower price.
The increase to 70 is completely unjustified and absurd. For this reason, I, like many other visitors, will no longer go to the club until the price has returned to at least 60.
I also see that since the beginning of May, due to this price increase, the number of visitors and, consequently, the number of guest girls has already decreased. First it was 46/48. Now it does not reach 30.
I find all this an absurd business decision.[/QUOTE]I think the club gambles and will likely win. If any other major club in NRW follows suit then the dominoes will fall and clubs in mass will increase to 70 e. Additionally, if the price increases for the ladies then the price per 30 and extras will also increase.
A discussion about this was held elsewhere. 3 meals, drinks all day, sauna, jacuzzi and a nap in the garden. This easily costs more at a non sex related business and here you get to play with beautiful ladies and have sex too, if you want to pay more.
[QUOTE=UniversoFkk;2318888]I am so sorry to have to express my total disappointment for the increase in the admission price from 60 to 70.
I think, like many other visitors, that the price of 60 was already too high compared to the facilities that the club offers compared to the facilities offered by other clubs in the area (Magnum, Samya, Golden Time) for a lower price.
The increase to 70 is completely unjustified and absurd. For this reason, I, like many other visitors, will no longer go to the club until the price has returned to at least 60.
I also see that since the beginning of May, due to this price increase, the number of visitors and, consequently, the number of guest girls has already decreased. First it was 46/48. Now it does not reach 30.
I find all this an absurd business decision.[/QUOTE]They are free to fix the price they want, we are free to go or not, I will not spend 70 there like the entry for Artemis or palace are far too high. The key of the business is the quality of the LU vs price, high price for average LU will not last long.
[QUOTE=UniversoFkk;2318888]I am so sorry to have to express my total disappointment for the increase in the admission price from 60 to 70.
I think, like many other visitors, that the price of 60 was already too high compared to the facilities that the club offers compared to the facilities offered by other clubs in the area (Magnum, Samya, Golden Time) for a lower price.
The increase to 70 is completely unjustified and absurd. For this reason, I, like many other visitors, will no longer go to the club until the price has returned to at least 60.
I also see that since the beginning of May, due to this price increase, the number of visitors and, consequently, the number of guest girls has already decreased. First it was 46/48. Now it does not reach 30.
I find all this an absurd business decision.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree, and as said before, vote with your wallet!
Most regulars I speak plan to reduce their visits to Elsdorf with 25-50%, but also more than 20% of people will NOT come anymore, so do the math what the effect is of this 16% price increase. Then the girls: price increase more than 30%, and indeed what happens............Less girls, less men, etc, etc => 40 euro is a suitable price for this kind of club (as it was 2 years ago), but ok, 50 Euro can be justified, but more..............No.
Not only the number of girls dramatically reduced (and that is not only due to Orthodox Easter, that is already 2 weeks ago), but worse: especially the top of line girls do not appear on the schedule anymore. Real pity, because in essense this club had a good line up and "service level management".
Due to real improvements for spa, outside swimming pool, quite good foods better than GT, nice staff trying to please clients even You are not known as a regular, but a bit average casting with not many beauties like Mikaela or Kelli or Claire face or Dolli, market rate worth for me like GT = 60 , when LR is too expensive for club services, average foods, only 10 rooms, only Bundesliga to watch, when I was given remote to watch ski at Bab, when they didn t know me. But not so many clients at Bab than GT, not same kind of clients, Belgium versus NL. Public sex in both, only in kino at GT.
[QUOTE=Chongmal;2319095]I think the club gambles and will likely win. If any other major club in NRW follows suit then the dominoes will fall and clubs in mass will increase to 70 e. [/QUOTE]You really think so? But on the other hand: The tail does not wag the dog.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2319339]You really think so? But on the other hand: The tail does not wag the dog.[/QUOTE]If the club had a run of 5 days with less than 10 Male guests they might return to the prior pricing. As long as they cover operating costs they can let it roll and see what happens. Larger clubs are watching.
Remember a few years back, Oceans allowed the ladies to set the second 30 minutes to 50 instead of 25. Some ladies had tried this before at other clubs but customers and management had pushed back. When word spread about Oceans, other clubs raised entry and allowed the increase on the second 30 to become official.
[QUOTE=Chongmal;2319356]If the club had a run of 5 days with less than 10 Male guests they might return to the prior pricing. As long as they cover operating costs they can let it roll and see what happens. Larger clubs are watching.[/QUOTE]I agree, boycott. My understanding is Bernds is the only NRW club that charges 70. But Bernds doesn't need a lot of customers to stay afloat.
Clubs didn't increase entry rate at Oceans opening. Oceans is really nothing in NRW market. GT don t plan to increase from 60, in close future, girls stay for 50 for each 30 mn and when a girl likes You, You can have sometimes over 1 hour for only 100 , with kisses and smiles. Before Oceans opening, prettiest girls at GT, Aida. Ro coming from PHG in April 2013 who was my first weekly regular at PHG then GT, Liz. De on Summer 2013, Rachel. De who increased in September 2013 , Sam. De, asked for 100 for 1 hour, but You could go for 30 fast minutes for only 50, or with GND or oldies for 75/ h and even 25 € per other 30 mn, but GND always been too expensive for me.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2319725]I agree, boycott. My understanding is Bernds is the only NRW club that charges 70. But Bernds doesn't need a lot of customers to stay afloat.[/QUOTE]I'm not a regular, but I m pretty sure Bab real regulars will keep on going to Bab, even increased entry, because real FKK, different atmosphere than Samya or GT or LR, maybe few could move to PSR. Other clubs around are nothing. I wish good luck to Eddy who is very welcoming.
Despite increased entry to 70, some pretty girls for a Tuesday, and more on tomorrow tagesplan, maybe more expensive will make less clients, so girls will be more fresh and free, so more enjoyable to taste few beauties.
Can anyone tell me the birthday experience here?
Its free entry. But does anything else happen. I prefer a low key event.
Will be on my own. (Coming from Australia via Greece). So I can be there on my birthday in Oct.
Did this once before (at living room. Kaast) and could not think of a better way to spend it. !
Of course I hear it's cheap entry for birthday friends. So you're all invited.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2321501]Despite increased entry to 70, some pretty girls for a Tuesday, and more on tomorrow tagesplan, maybe more expensive will make less clients, so girls will be more fresh and free, so more enjoyable to taste few beauties.[/QUOTE]We see how the "Less Clients" theory is working at my home club. High rotation, the ones with regulars stay, you're left with little choices. Nice ladies move on before you catch them unless you're there every day. Bab would normally be on my list for this trip but I can't support 70 e for good but not excellent clubs. They already take a lot and invest the minimum to keep the clubs open.
As for the Birthday Boy, Happy Days. Should be free entry, maybe a nice greeting at the desk. Enjoy the day and safe travels.
Hello Piggsy,
Your entrance at Babylon is definitely free on your birthday as I have experienced it myself. After you are in you could can do your own thing. You are just like any other visitor unless you draw attention yourself.
I found the old entrance fee already quite stiff as I'm more a short time person which is also not interested in the wellness bit when I go to the club. In my eyes the raise is also not justified. I had used the shorttime tariff of 1 HR which was 30 EUR but is now also raised to 40 EUR. The 1 hrs is cutting it fine when you want to see who is there and do not want to be hurried. A 2 hrs tariff at 40 EUR would may be make me come back but at the moment I'm quite happy to test other clubs that are out there. Here are one some of the alternatives that I have tried:
7 Heaven 25 EUR entrance, to be forgotten, very dark atmosphere, buffet not existing and on a Wednesday few girls max 6 on a scale 1 to 10. (my personal judgement).
Acapulco Gold Ratingen 35 EUR entrance, real alternative, currently the sisterclub is under renovation so double the girls, almost too full for the location, no garden, club also a little aged, had my best room ever there 40430. Most girls wear lingerie rather than being fully nude.
Another alternative is FKK Oase close to Frankfurt, 30 EUR entrance for 2 hrs, much bigger club and selection, but I realize its a bit far from the Cologne area.
[QUOTE=Chongmal;2322672]We see how the "Less Clients" theory is working at my home club. High rotation, the ones with regulars stay, you're left with little choices. Nice ladies move on before you catch them unless you're there every day. Bab would normally be on my list for this trip but I can't support 70 e for good but not excellent clubs. They already take a lot and invest the minimum to keep the clubs open.
As for the Birthday Boy, Happy Days. Should be free entry, maybe a nice greeting at the desk. Enjoy the day and safe travels.[/QUOTE]Don't know for LR but for sure new girls seen on Easter time won't attract much and Ramadan can be a problem, but Bab was so empty on my visit, even many usual girls, Alexa now blond, but unfortunately 2 ex Bumsalp lost freshness for look compare to when they arrived, not attractive now, sad.
(report is from early 2018).
From Cologne I caught the train to Zieverich. I had planned to go by taxi the last part to Elsdorf but there were none around. I knew there was a bus route, and to my luck one passed by just after a few minutes. Babylon Elsdorf is a medium sized club, with the usual facilities. It's in the countryside and has few tourist. Most guests are regulars who all know each other it seemed. Public action can be seen at times. I was a bit disaponted with the lineup, the very few women that I found interesting were constantly busy. It was Saturday.
First I roomed with Mara (Ro 21), then Andrea (Ro / It 23). Both offered acceptable service, but nothing memorable. This place is for the specially interested, I think. Like a "stamkneipe". So it got boring for my part. I returned to Zieverich station by taxi and enjoyed a cold wait for the train.
We are a swinger couple 42/53 yo.
Question to friendly regular customers of the Bab: how normal would such a couple look in the club? How often this sort of visitors do show up in there? And what sort of attitude these couples receive from professional ladies of Babylon?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=BalticCouple;2326529]We are a swinger couple 42/53 yo.
Question to friendly regular customers of the Bab: how normal would such a couple look in the club? How often this sort of visitors do show up in there? And what sort of attitude these couples receive from professional ladies of Babylon?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Couples are welcome in Babylon, I did see it many times, and not a problem Man and woman both pay entrance and both are considered not to go FKK (that is for the Babylon girls only, also because then it s directly clear who are working girls and who are "guests"). Many girls are open for threesomes, you can see that in their service profile when it says "Damen und Paaren", see [URL]https://www.saunaclubs.org/saunaclub-forum/awl[/URL]. If you want more specific suggestions for girls who like this, send me a PM.
Enjoy!
In this club is it possible / fairly easy, asking politely, having sex without a condom or is it almost impossible?
Thanks in advance.
I don't know if in this forum it is possible to exchange private messages. If so, I would like to thank those who will be able to indicate the girls who offer this type of service.
Have fun!
[QUOTE=UniversoFkk;2327976]In this club is it possible / fairly easy, asking politely, having sex without a condom or is it almost impossible?
Thanks in advance.
I don't know if in this forum it is possible to exchange private messages. If so, I would like to thank those who will be able to indicate the girls who offer this type of service.
Have fun![/QUOTE]Possible in every single FKK or brothel, almost from all girls, but not by asking them. Rather when they see you are clean, nice, respectful, fun and feel a human connection, not just a customer who considers the girl as a piece of meat for his payment. In fact the moment you ask, chances of getting AO (Cathoilic service) becomes zero in 99% cases. Also, girls who had AO sex with one guy may not want that with another guy. So asking other customers which girls in a regular FKK or saunaclub provide AO, is useless.
Alternatively you can try some RTCs or RTC type clubs for near guaranteed AO.
[QUOTE=UniversoFkk;2327976]In this club is it possible / fairly easy, asking politely, having sex without a condom or is it almost impossible?
Thanks in advance.
I don't know if in this forum it is possible to exchange private messages. If so, I would like to thank those who will be able to indicate the girls who offer this type of service.
Have fun![/QUOTE]If the girls is okay and you have cash everything is possible in a FKK like with all the prostitutes but a small advice from a long term monger, don t do that, it is at high risk most of those girls have 5 to 15+ clients per day coming from everywhere in the world without any medical check for the girls or the guys.
Visited my favourite club in NRW today.
It was really slow, I hope it was because of the Monday and holiday times and not the price increase.
It anyway had good food, good staff as well as good relax facilities as always and I had one good session with a nice girl.
It also had some public fun in the garden and I of course contributed in the Kino. You must keep traditions alive!
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2350060]Visited my favourite club in NRW today.
[/QUOTE]Enjoying keeping up with your tour. And am very jealous!
Why is this your favourite NRW club?
What has the price increase gone to?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2350060]Visited my favourite club in NRW today.
It was really slow, I hope it was because of the Monday and holiday times and not the price increase.
It anyway had good food, good staff as well as good relax facilities as always and I had one good session with a nice girl.
It also had some public fun in the garden and I of course contributed in the Kino. You must keep traditions alive![/QUOTE]Glad you enjoyed. Babylon was slow couple of weeks ago on a Friday evening too, the 70e entry might be too high for that area with few tourists, whereas Finca is only 35e entry before 2pm (50e otherwise) not too far away although facilities not as modern and food not as good.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2350063]What has the price increase gone to?[/QUOTE]For the new additions (like the sauna) at the rear probably. Someone's got to PayForIt you know!
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2350063]Enjoying keeping up with your tour. And am very jealous!
Why is this your favourite NRW club?
What has the price increase gone to?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Glad you enjoy!
To be honest I have only tried a fraction of the available clubs in NRW (I have tried Aca gold, Dolce vita, LV, GT, Samya and Babylon). I do not like party clubs, party is something totally different for me and probably a lot more hardcore than for the normal monger. Because of this I seek a relaxed club where I can regain strenght by having a sauna, float in a jacuzzi, eat good food and fuck girls that do not give me an headache by harassing me for a room and upsell things I normally take for granted.
For me it is a bonus if the place is hard to reach by public transport because I always have a rental car and then there will be mostly local mongers that require girls that give good service.
Babylon checks all the boxes sort of speak. Entry is 70, I think it was 60 before.
I will take a brake in my tour since I am sexually exhausted to a point where I today abandonded a venue with naked girls laying in the sun inviting me to fuck them in favour of a venue containing garden gnomes. I only returned because of hunger, for food, not pussy. After my first and only session I also tried to extract information from the Romanian beauty where to find those gnomes. She could not help me with this problem.
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2350060]Visited my favourite club in NRW today.
It was really slow, I hope it was because of the Monday and holiday times and not the price increase.
It anyway had good food, good staff as well as good relax facilities as always and I had one good session with a nice girl.
It also had some public fun in the garden and I of course contributed in the Kino. You must keep traditions alive![/QUOTE]Hi FUS,
How many women were there at the peak?
And at what time of day was this peak?
It would really help the reader if people automatically provided the answer to these 2 above questions in their reports.
Also, where do you find it best to rent a car from?
Thanks bud.
[QUOTE=Karlo7;2350306]Hi FUS,
How many women were there at the peak?
And at what time of day was this peak?
It would really help the reader if people automatically provided the answer to these 2 above questions in their reports.
Also, where do you find it best to rent a car from?
Thanks bud.[/QUOTE]Hi, I do not really see the point in telling how many women there are? Is turnover interesting in a company or is it profit and / or marketshare.
I suppose the monger / girl ratio is relevant to calculate the risk of wait time for girls. The ratio fuckrooms / mongers are relevant for waiting time for rooms, the ratio mongers / squaremeter is relevant for space.
I can assume that you think that many girls in a club equals big spread in origin / bodyshapes / personality / face. This is not really the case according to my experience. Big clubs, with many girls, tend to consist of mostly Romanian 25 year old slim girls.
Anyway, there was about 10 girls at peak time and that is 1 pm to 11 pm in this club.
I always rent a car at the airport I arrive at and I rent from Avis or Hertz. I cannot give you a neutral opinion since my company has a agreement with them so I never pay for rental cars since I travel all the time within Sweden and sometimes around europe and get "points".
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2350360]
I always rent a car at the airport I arrive at and I rent from Avis or Hertz. I cannot give you a neutral opinion since my company has a agreement with them so I never pay for rental cars since I travel all the time within Sweden and sometimes around europe and get "points".[/QUOTE]I always book a rental car thru Expedia app, without buying their insurance, and using my Gold or Platinum credit cards to pay at the car rental company's airport counter which automatically covers full insurance for the car. I'm yet to find any better deal than thru the Expedia app, usually between 20 and 30 euros per day, sometimes cheaper weekly rates for a compact car, with occasional free upgrades. Sometimes I book really late, as late as just after landing in Germany, literally 20 minutes before showing up at the car rental counter.
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2350086]Glad you enjoy!
For me it is a bonus if the place is hard to reach by public transport because I always have a rental car and then there will be mostly local mongers that require girls that give good service.
Babylon checks all the boxes sort of speak. .[/QUOTE]Thank you to F-you Swede and Gino for the insights, I've put this on my "Winter 2020" tour list. I'm hoping to visit 6 FKKS on a 8 day tour unless I get so exhausted I have to just stay in my hotel and order Outcall with a naked massage therapist. 😀.
Going to hit: Coliseum (Augs), Sunshine (Munich - recently remodeled); over to Sharks, then up to Babylon and ending in Artemis. ONE MORE to go..... Probably in the NWR area, and not the club in central Frankfurt.
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2350360]Hi, I do not really see the point in telling how many women there are? Is turnover interesting in a company or is it profit and / or marketshare.
I suppose the monger / girl ratio is relevant to calculate the risk of wait time for girls. The ratio fuckrooms / mongers are relevant for waiting time for rooms, the ratio mongers / squaremeter is relevant for space.
I can assume that you think that many girls in a club equals big spread in origin / bodyshapes / personality / face. This is not really the case according to my experience. Big clubs, with many girls, tend to consist of mostly Romanian 25 year old slim girls.
Anyway, there was about 10 girls at peak time and that is 1 pm to 11 pm in this club.
I always rent a car at the airport I arrive at and I rent from Avis or Hertz. I cannot give you a neutral opinion since my company has a agreement with them so I never pay for rental cars since I travel all the time within Sweden and sometimes around europe and get "points".[/QUOTE]Thanks FUS, I appreciate your thoughts on this and for answering my questions.
I think for a lot of men wanting to visit these clubs a big part of the appeal will be to see an attractive view of lots of attractive naked women. Lets say 50 is preferable and more interesting to 10 for many men. Especially if they want to stay for several or more hours and enjoy the venue and its facilities. So its helpful to have an idea of the numbers. Though It is logical that the Wednesday Thursday and especially Friday and Saturday evenings and nights may be the busiest for women and men in most FKK clubs.
Just like a strip club or night club with 50 women in will be more interesting and vibrant than with 10.
[QUOTE=Karlo7;2350516]... Lets say 50 is preferable and more interesting to 10 for many men. Especially if they want to stay for several or more hours and enjoy the venue and its facilities. So its helpful to have an idea of the numbers. Though It is logical that the Wednesday Thursday and especially Friday and Saturday evenings and nights may be the busiest for women and men in most FKK clubs.[/QUOTE]FUS visited Babylon on a Monday, which is invariably the day with the lowest attendance in Babylon. Furthermore, it is mainly the unattractive ones who turn up on Mondays in the hope of ensnaring visitors when there is no competition. I normally visit Babylon on Thursdays when the attendance of girls is usually full, and I avoid Fridays when it is usually flooded with men.
Babylon is the only major FKK I know of that publishes its expected attendance list online. I have just checked this week's list. Starting from Monday 22/7 to Sunday 28/7 the expected numbers are: 10, 21, 36, 35, 37, 34, 23.
Monday and Tuesday are past, so the 10 and 21 are confirmed numbers. The rest are subject to change.
In Babylon, most girls would have arrived by 2 pm, so the 'peak' starts then.
Seem less girls, less clients since increased entry for both and less reliable tagesplan. Claire moved to 6 ens. Best castings from Thursday to Saturday.
I ended this trip with Babylon. Arrived at approx. 11:30 AM and left approx. 5:30 PM.
I think it was around 20 girls present, I have met most of them before, my long term goal is to fuck every single girl in this place. Or "fuck" may not be entirely correct, I mostly go for a blowjob since I consider the "fucking" part boring.
I know this place have high entrance and I know the line-up is not fabulous, but I just feel so relaxed in this place. I lay in a sun chair and watch the naked girls play in the pool while I sip on my cold Apfelschorle and think of who will be my next encounter.
I do not need more than that to be a happy man really!
All problems drift away in a cozy bliss filled with cute girls and happy mongers playing and flashing their junk. I don't know, maybe they put tranqulizer in the apfelschorle or something but it works for me.
Two things did in fact cloud my mind this time.
1. Why do most of the girls get busy at approx. 5:30 PM? I have experienced the same thing before at this place 1 hour before closing but why 5:30 PM?
2. I had my mind set to session a small Bulgarian that was playing in the pool so when she came up I asked her for a room. She asked if I could wait while she had a cigarette and I agreed and entered a sun chair. But my wait was in vain, when she finished her cigarette she went with another monger. What did I do wrong?? That kind of shit really haunts me!
I only had one session, in the kino, with bystanders. The girl was Daniela 24 years from Macedonia. Claims to be former Globe, I do not know if that is correct. Anyway she is a nice girl and did a great job to make me happy.
Over and out for this time from the flower power man!
I am going to write about what was the highlight of my trip. Kelly at Babylon is my new ATF, and I returned to Babylon several times during the course of this trip to session with her!
After the first Pascha visit (around noon), my buddy and I decided to visit Babylon in the evening. Club was overall nicer looking than Arabella. It was a nice relaxing place with friendly staff. As far as club atmosphere, the only downside was the flies moving around and landing on some of the food items. That was gross. *.
There were a few girls that caught my eye, Tanya being the first one. I originally wanted to session with her, but she was not available. My buddy pointed her out to me when I got to the club, but she went off to a room. She is a cute, young, brunette, Romanian spinner. I had an hour session with Katyrina (brunette, kind of short, curvaceous, has tattoos, ID say average looking) as my first session instead of Tanya. My session with Katyrina was just alright, but way better than the fiasco that was Cindy at Arabella. At least she got me to bust a nut with a decent CBJ. * I originally planned to wait just 20 more minutes after sessioning with Katyrina to see if Tanya is available before returning to Pascha for a second time. During that time, I noticed another girl that appealed to me. I noticed a blond, 25 yr old, attractive, olive skinned, Romanian girl talking to one of the German guys there on the couch. She was wearing heels. I was like "wow" from the start. She was wearing a towel, so I thought she was busy.
From my experience, wearing the towel usually indicates that a girl is taken. I was initially hesitant to approach her for that reason. It turned out she was not reserved at the moment. I asked her what her name is and if she wanted to go to the room. Her name is Kelly (Nelly? She looked and smelled great LOL. Immediately, she started kissing me and we started making out as soon as we entered the room. The whole experience had a very spontaneous feel to it. It was not mechanical at all! She was very passionate and wild in bed and we tried all kinds of different things. A very fun girl to be around. It was thirty minutes of pure bliss and excitement. My buddy sessioned with Tanya (she was finally available) while I sessioned with Kelly. We both wished we stayed at Babylon that night instead of returning to Pascha. From then on I was contemplating coming back to Babylon to see her.
The next day, I went to Living Room. When I was at Living Room, I had a good (vanilla) sessions with Raina and Samara.
The day after that I traveled back to Amsterdam. I had one bad session in De Wallen the day after I got back to Amsterdam from Germany. It was with a Greek lady "Maria". It was at night, so the optics were overall better than during the day at De Wallen. On the flip side, there were lots, of lots, of tourists watching, which really ruined the mood. The tourists gawking as I entered the window is probably half the reason why the session wasn't good. It gets me out of the frame of mind I need in order to have a good session. Her attitude was not great either and it was all very mechanical. Her back was almost completely covered in tattoos. I just walked out of the window 45 minutes early only for more annoying tourists to stare at me. I just chalked it up to a loss and moved on.
*From that point on, I knew what I needed to do. I spent the rest of my trip near Elsdorf in Germany, and went back to Kelly at Babylon several times. I had five more amazing sessions with her! When I got back to Babylon, there was a group of 6 girls that approached me without being prompted and offered to give me a six girl orgy LOL. Six girls is a bit too much now, maybe next time. I did have a 2 girl session though which I enjoyed, along with other new experiences. Never got to session with Tanya unfortunately.
Total Damage: Around 800-900 euros total for Babylon including sessions, tips, and entry fees. Recieved a discounted entry fee one night (40 euros) because I arrived an hour before the club closed.
Kelly: 415 euros total for all sessions.
Other notes: I have also observed that Thursday is the best day. On the Fridays and Saturdays I went there were lots of guys. On Thursday, there was the full lineup of girls but not so many guys.
[QUOTE=Ludacris775;2367924]She was wearing a towel, so I thought she was busy.
From my experience, wearing the towel usually indicates that a girl is taken. I was initially hesitant to approach her for that reason. It turned out she was not reserved at the moment. I asked her what her name is and if she wanted to go to the room. Her name is Kelly (Nelly? She looked and smelled great LOL. Immediately, she started kissing .[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and the tip on Kelly. I am curious about your comment about the towel. I have been to the FKK several times and I had no idea that this was a thing.
Bab Elsdorf is normal club, one of the very rare real FKK in NRW, girls are more naked than at Oase or Sharks, with good foods and wellness, outside swimming pool, when Arabella is low level AO club. Kelly is nice, unfortunately her face skin lost freshness compare to end of last year.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2350622]FUS visited Babylon on a Monday, which is invariably the day with the lowest attendance in Babylon. Furthermore, it is mainly the unattractive ones who turn up on Mondays in the hope of ensnaring visitors when there is no competition. I normally visit Babylon on Thursdays when the attendance of girls is usually full, and I avoid Fridays when it is usually flooded with men.
Babylon is the only major FKK I know of that publishes its expected attendance list online. I have just checked this week's list. Starting from Monday 22/7 to Sunday 28/7 the expected numbers are: 10, 21, 36, 35, 37, 34, 23.
Monday and Tuesday are past, so the 10 and 21 are confirmed numbers. The rest are subject to change.
In Babylon, most girls would have arrived by 2 pm, so the 'peak' starts then.[/QUOTE]Where do I find the list of girls? Thanks.
Akibono. I think the club has very recently stopped having the rota and pictures. If I am wrong, maybe somebody else will correct me.
It's still at [URL]https://www.saunaclubs.org/saunaclub-forum/awl[/URL].
[QUOTE=Optimist;2368395]Akibono. I think the club has very recently stopped having the rota and pictures. If I am wrong, maybe somebody else will correct me.[/QUOTE]No, still tagesplan for Bab, but not on their site, but on sauna. Org.
[QUOTE=Akibono;2368142]Where do I find the list of girls? Thanks.[/QUOTE]As I had reported in the year the new law took effect, to distance it from Babylon management, the rota was shifted to another website purportedly to indicate where girls are working in various clubs; but actually covering only Babylon.
To find it, go to the official Babylon website, scroll to the absolute bottom where there is faint text over black background. There you will find a line listing 2 'German speaking forums'. Choose the first one on the left. After entering that website, at the top tab, press GPL to get the rota.
I have just checked and confirmed it is still there. It was 90% accurate when I visited Babylon last month. Some girls change plans and do not turn up.
Is Babylon a daytime club like Goldentime? I am planning a trip there and was thinking of Babylon followed by Samya or Mondial.
[QUOTE=JJForum61;2371614]Is Babylon a daytime club like Goldentime? I am planning a trip there and was thinking of Babylon followed by Samya or Mondial.[/QUOTE]Yes, day club with full casting around 2/3 pm. Entry 70. Bab close at midnight /1 am.
The May-1 entrance increase to 70 euros killed this club. The place was basically dead on what should have normally been a busy Friday afternoon. The lineup is very limited now. Basically just the same handful of old-timer girls who have worked there for several years. It seemed like number of men visiting had dropped off significantly also. The whole atmosphere was slow and almost depressing.
From talking to a few regulars. The club is in downward tailspin, as many girls have left and they can't seem to recruit new ones. With a number of other clubs in the area charging 30-50 euro entry. It seems like Babylon has priced themselves out of the market.
Most regulars (like me) have avoided the club the last few months. Not only the price increase, but mainly because of decreasing quality (and quantity) of the lineup. Mostly be material present nowadays (few exceptions aside), also the food is getting worse and worse. Real pity since line up and food where the only (but very important) USPs of this small club.
Even worse: the "jackstraw" is too stubern to take advice to improve seriously and in addition is largest consumer of the third USP of this club (Free Belgian Beer).
[QUOTE=Maxime;2374845]Most regulars (like me) have avoided the club the last few months. Not only the price increase, but mainly because of decreasing quality (and quantity) of the lineup. Mostly lower, B-material present nowadays (few exceptions aside), also the food is getting worse and worse. Real pity since line up and food where the only (but very important) USPs of this small club.
Even worse: the "jackstraw" is too stubern to take advice to improve seriously and in addition is largest consumer of the third USP of this club (Free Belgian Beer).[/QUOTE]In a desperate event to increase the number of paying customers, they now came up with this:
"Aktuell sieht es danach aus, dass es ab Montag eine neue Preisstruktur I'm Babylon geben wird. Demnach wird der Eintrittspreis an die Länge des Aufenthalts gekoppelt.
60 Minuten 40 Euro.
2 Stunden 50 Euro.
4 Stunden 60 Euro.
Tageskarte 70 Euro (11. Besuch Frei: 63 Euro).
So from Monday (October) onwards. In fact nothing changes, only two additional price options depending on the length of your stay: 2 hours for 50 euro, 4 hours for 60 euro (the other options did already exist).
Can not imagine this will change anything, better have more and better girls present, and have strict service rules again (like eg in Globe) than the men will come and will pay whatever to come in!
No one is going to stay 60 minutes that's ridiculous. It means that you have to make only a 30 min session, with one of the first girls you find, you don't eat and you have to shower quickly.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2375885]In a desperate event to increase the number of paying customers, they now came up with this:
"Aktuell sieht es danach aus, dass es ab Montag eine neue Preisstruktur I'm Babylon geben wird. Demnach wird der Eintrittspreis an die Lnge des Aufenthalts gekoppelt.
60 Minuten 40 Euro.
2 Stunden 50 Euro.
4 Stunden 60 Euro.
Tageskarte 70 Euro (11. Besuch Frei: 63 Euro).
So from Monday (October) onwards. In fact nothing changes, only two additional price options depending on the length of your stay: 2 hours for 50 euro, 4 hours for 60 euro (the other options did already exist).
Can not imagine this will change anything, better have more and better girls present, and have strict service rules again (like eg in Globe) than the men will come and will pay whatever to come in![/QUOTE]Girls are going to hate this pricing structure, as it incentives short stays where guys leave after 1 or 2 rooms. Not the 3 or 4 room dudes like myself. Now I do assume that we pay afterwards, and not in advance with this pricing. Otherwise they may be shooting themselves in the foot here.
70 e all day is taxing, and in my mind would require a pretty impressive lineup. Now I have never been to Babylon myself. Only know a few girls from other clubs who has moved there, or came from there. But to the lot of you who has been there, how impressive is the lineup? And which other club would you say has the most comparable lineup?
Sad because club was really improved with new jacuzzi and swimming pool. Eddy is really welcoming, playing ski for me when I m not a regular. Claire moved to 6.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2375959]Girls are going to hate this pricing structure, as it incentives short stays where guys leave after 1 or 2 rooms. Not the 3 or 4 room dudes like myself. Now I do assume that we pay afterwards, and not in advance with this pricing. Otherwise they may be shooting themselves in the foot here.
70 e all day is taxing, and in my mind would require a pretty impressive lineup. Now I have never been to Babylon myself. Only know a few girls from other clubs who has moved there, or came from there. But to the lot of you who has been there, how impressive is the lineup? And which other club would you say has the most comparable lineup?[/QUOTE]Only been once. Honestly, not that impressive, but was still able to find a couple girls worth spending time with. But one of those two girls I saw the very next week at Sharks.
Babylon also had the oldest FKK "girl" I had ever seen.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2375959]Girls are going to hate this pricing structure, as it incentives short stays where guys leave after 1 or 2 rooms. Not the 3 or 4 room dudes like myself. Now I do assume that we pay afterwards, and not in advance with this pricing. Otherwise they may be shooting themselves in the foot here.
70 e all day is taxing, and in my mind would require a pretty impressive lineup. Now I have never been to Babylon myself. Only know a few girls from other clubs who has moved there, or came from there. But to the lot of you who has been there, how impressive is the lineup? And which other club would you say has the most comparable lineup?[/QUOTE]Some high level girls like Barbi and Kity who are friends worked at Bab, before becoming FKK land superstars. Kelli was fresh GFE when she started. There was also a German team with Mikaela, maybe now at GT? Daisy and a small blond.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2376023]Only been once. Honestly, not that impressive, but was still able to find a couple girls worth spending time with. But one of those two girls I saw the very next week at Sharks.
Babylon also had the oldest FKK "girl" I had ever seen.[/QUOTE]Older than Sylvana at Sharks, still hunting since 11 am to 4 am, marathon super woman seen on this Friday.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2376139]Some high level girls like Barbi and Kity who are friends worked at Bab, before becoming FKK land superstars. Kelli was fresh GFE when she started. There was also a German team with Mikaela, maybe now at GT? Daisy and a small blond.[/QUOTE]Mikaela still at Bab with small blond Tamara.
The last year price went up and quality (of the girls AND the food) went down dramatically. Not worth the money anymore I am afraid. Few gems still there, but not enough to have 3-5 sessions on a visit (that was very easy few years ago there). Pity but true.
Went to Babylon with my friend today with fear of meeting a empty run down facility and the owner crying behind the counter.
But no, it was as good as the first time I went there. German schlager on high volume from the sound system, owner standing behind the bar hugging a bottle of wine with a grin on his face, happy mongers eating and drinking, girls on the couches spreading their legs for good view when you eat your tasty schnitzel. Made me burst out in laughter and could not stop! Sehr gut!
Had first session with Angela.
I have planned a session with her for a long time but she was always busy. A bit dissapointing, probably because she had a flu. I will probably get a flu in my schnabel, has happened before.
Had some food, steam sauna (not as hot as Samya) and jacuzzi. Relaxed a bit in the outside cold and looked at the cloudy sky.
Session 2, Ella.
Only girl I have had 2 sessions with at Babylon. She really checks all the boxes for me, god damn how she makes me horny! Only blowjob, in the kino as usual.
My friend had a session with the moldavian girl with the gun tatoo on her leg, do not remember her name. Fucked her this summer. She really knows how to use her body, my friend was impessed and happy!
Some more food, a beer and a coke and off we go to party town no 1 Cologne! Over and out.
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2400311]Went to Babylon with my friend today with fear of meeting a empty run down facility and the owner crying behind the counter.[/QUOTE]Did you think that the entry price is worth it? To me, the loungers are nice, rooms are so so, ladies nothing special and the better ones are nearly impossible to catch and I hate the food area between the lockers and bar. I don't see the value in the cost increase unless every 7th entry is free.
[QUOTE=Chongmal;2400321]Did you think that the entry price is worth it? To me, the loungers are nice, rooms are so so, ladies nothing special and the better ones are nearly mpossible to catch and I hate the food area between the lockers and bar. I don't see the value in the cost increase unless every 7th entry is free.[/QUOTE]I may not have returned to Babylon if it wasn't for Kelly. Had a real good time with that girl. Otherwise, I would say the club wasn't that special and the high entry fee isn't justified.
[QUOTE=Chongmal;2400321]Did you think that the entry price is worth it.[/QUOTE]Short answer: yes.
Motivation: I love the NRW area for different reasons, it is the most liberal area in Germany. Babylon is the only club in this area, to my knowledge, where the girls are totally nude. I like nude girls. The service level from the girls are high, the mongers are mainly from Holland, Belgium and Germany, the facilities are clean and nice, the food is german, the music sets me in a good mode, there is a good porn kino and the films are of good quality, the tap beer is free. Small things but I just plainly love the athmosphere of this place. I do not really care about 20 euro more or less for entrance.
If you plan only to fuck and not care about food and facilities of course there are cheaper alternatives. I do not go here when I just have a couple of hours to spend.
By the way, something seriously bad has happened to the door of this place. Anyone know the story?
[QUOTE=Chongmal;2400321]Did you think that the entry price is worth it? To me, the loungers are nice, rooms are so so, ladies nothing special and the better ones are nearly impossible to catch and I hate the food area between the lockers and bar. I don't see the value in the cost increase unless every 7th entry is free.[/QUOTE]I agree. Oftentimes the best girls are booked. I roomed with Kellie twice on her first day working there, and was unable to get a room with her during future visits. I don't like the food location either. I don't like that they are super stingy with towels and don't have a robe option.
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2400348]By the way, something seriously bad has happened to the door of this place. Anyone know the story?[/QUOTE]They had a fire in the basement during the night a few days ago. The door has been forced by the fire brigade to enter quickly.
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2400311]Went to Babylon.. had a session with the moldavian girl with the gun tatoo on her leg, do not remember her name.[/QUOTE]He wants to the room with Antonia. She is half Romanian, half Russian and she lived in Moldavia in her young age.
I am wondering if this club deserves a visit. For my german lady preference, I have GT. For my big boob fetish I have Club Penelope (Castrop-Rauxel), but still hunting for alternatives.
[QUOTE=MD0344;2400360]They had a fire in the basement during the night a few days ago. The door has been forced by the fire brigade to enter quickly.[/QUOTE]Aha, I did not see any fire damage in the basement? I had to use the lockers there since the place was packed.
There was a really angry monger at Babylon this summer when I slept over in the "hotel". He went berserk and started hitting cars outside. I was a bit worried he had returned!
"Return of the angry monger" sounds like a cheap horror movie.
[QUOTE=Kuni042;2400589]I am wondering if this club deserves a visit. For my german lady preference, I have GT. For my big boob fetish I have Club Penelope (Castrop-Rauxel), but still hunting for alternatives.[/QUOTE]Barbi with huge basket balls silicon balloons. There were some Germans: Mikaela, Tamara, Daisy, but small natural tits and I don t know why, but I think 2 former were fired, they did hide for drug.
For German with big silicon balloons, Nika at Oase.
I never saw Kelli being full busy.
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2400968]Aha, I did not see any fire damage in the basement? I had to use the lockers there since the place was packed.[/QUOTE]It was a washing machine or dryer that caught fire so it may have been contained.
[QUOTE=Kuni042;2400589]I am wondering if this club deserves a visit. For my german lady preference, I have GT. For my big boob fetish I have Club Penelope (Castrop-Rauxel), but still hunting for alternatives.[/QUOTE]Several German girls now here: Vivien (optics even below RTC level.), Sabrina (ex DV, looks good, but distant), Aurelie (ex Finca, porno looks and service, will fullfil both your fetishes), Mina (also ex Finca, funny) and maybe more? Tattoo girl Sena (also ex-Finca) was there for few days, but "could not get along with the Chef" and left already.
Isn't Barbi with basketball balloons silicon German?
What happened with Germans Mikaela and Tamara? Even small tits.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2403022]Isn't Barbi with basketball balloons silicon German?
What happened with Germans Mikaela and Tamara? Even small tits.[/QUOTE]Barbi is German, but already long time gone. Also Michaela and Tamara are already gone for a while, for the same reason ("could not get along with the Chef"................you see the trend?
[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2376023]Babylon also had the oldest FKK "girl" I had ever seen.[/QUOTE]Who was it? Kashida?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2400983]Barbi with huge basket balls silicon balloons. There were some Germans: Mikaela, Tamara, Daisy, but small natural tits and I don t know why, but I think 2 former were fired, they did hide for drug.
For German with big silicon balloons, Nika at Oase.
I never saw Kelli being full busy.[/QUOTE]Hi TheRudger,
Like Sirioja I did not see Kelly being constantly unavailable when I was there, though it did seem like she was one of the most popular girls in Babylon. It was not difficult to have repeat sessions with her over multiple days. Maybe the time of year makes a difference.
[QUOTE=MD0344;2407310]Who was it? Kashida?[/QUOTE]"Thatguy23" wrote the report in September and if I remember correct the famous Sylviana worked in the club late summer / early fall.
T.
LOL. So true. I guess they just want to make the 2 HR look like a bargain.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2375908]No one is going to stay 60 minutes that's ridiculous. It means that you have to make only a 30 min session, with one of the first girls you find, you don't eat and you have to shower quickly.[/QUOTE]
I was there yesterday after having been to Samya the night before. The place is nicer, and cleaner, at least there is a proper pool and sauna etc, but the girls! It looked like a collection of the ugliest girls they could find, out of 15 girls or so there was a 7, a couple of 6, and the rest was a lot of 3 and 4 with a few 1's which made me wonder who in the world would ever fuck them. Also, there were quite a few guys, at one point the ratio was about 1:1 which made it even more ridiculous as the guys were sitting there not choosing any girls and the girls were desperate to be chosen. It's only the second time in my life that I leave without having done anything, I lost 60 euros but better than losing 110 for a lousy fuck. Only, I wish someone on this forum had told me about the terrible quality of girls in this place.
[QUOTE=Fifino68;2417124]I was there yesterday after having been to Samya the night before. The place is nicer, and cleaner, at least there is a proper pool and sauna etc, but the girls! It looked like a collection of the ugliest girls they could find, out of 15 girls or so there was a 7, a couple of 6, and the rest was a lot of 3 and 4 with a few 1's which made me wonder who in the world would ever fuck them. Also, there were quite a few guys, at one point the ratio was about 1:1 which made it even more ridiculous as the guys were sitting there not choosing any girls and the girls were desperate to be chosen. It's only the second time in my life that I leave without having done anything, I lost 60 euros but better than losing 110 for a lousy fuck. Only, I wish someone on this forum had told me about the terrible quality of girls in this place.[/QUOTE]Isn't entry 70? Some quite pretty girls.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2417318]Isn't entry 70? Some quite pretty girls.[/QUOTE]Kelli when fresh, Dolli, Anna if still there, are quite pretty. Some pretty ones worked at Bab.
I wonder if the lineup will be the same or if many girls are gone.
[URL]https://www.saunaclubs.org/threads/das-babylon-%C3%B6ffnet-seine-tore.6698/[/URL]
[QUOTE=KalleKula;2483552]I wonder if the lineup will be the same or if many girls are gone.
[URL]https://www.saunaclubs.org/threads/das-babylon-%C3%B6ffnet-seine-tore.6698/[/URL][/QUOTE]That is good news. Glad Babs survived the China flu, one of my fav clubs. Small club, good wellness, good food, good ice bears, and plenty of eye candy. Prost!
EL: may be you have to change your glasses or I have to change, this FKK is really not at the level, everything looks old and the cleaning is not the best, the rooms are dark and also not so clean, the food is average, the sauna so so, yes sometimes some really nice and fresh natural girls there.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2483655]EL: may be you have to change your glasses or I have to change, this FKK is really not at the level, everything looks old and the cleaning is not the best, the rooms are dark and also not so clean, the food is average, the sauna so so, yes sometimes some really nice and fresh natural girls there.[/QUOTE]Yes, Babs Elsdorf is def refreshing with good selection of PYTs compared to tired crew at GT. Clubs seems clean to me, but maybe my eyes were overwhelmed by the female optics LOL.
The club is clean and freshly renovated, grumpy troll probably never visited it (or 15 years ago) and he's doing some copy-paste with the spam he's writing everywhere (no go for me, overfucked prostitutes, blah blah blah). It's a little bit pathetic to have a life that is so empty.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2483655]EL: may be you have to change your glasses or I have to change, this FKK is really not at the level, everything looks old and the cleaning is not the best, the rooms are dark and also not so clean, the food is average, the sauna so so, yes sometimes some really nice and fresh natural girls there.[/QUOTE]When did you really visit Bab which was really improved for wellness with big jacuzzi, garden with swimming pool. Not dirty place, room 1 with heart above head of bed and window, is good for love. Friendly, welcoming boss. Just difficult for me to find attractive girls, even there were at Bab, like Romanian Barbi and her friend Romanian Angel who became Hungarian Kity at GT because of GT low level clients who don t like Romanians, but Barbi. Ro was busy at GT. Good luck for Eddy for reopening.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2483802]The club is clean and freshly renovated, grumpy troll probably never visited it (or 15 years ago) and he's doing some copy-paste with the spam he's writing everywhere (no go for me, overfucked prostitutes, blah blah blah). It's a little bit pathetic to have a life that is so empty.[/QUOTE]The facilities were in good condition when I went. Zero problems in this regard with respect to this club.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2483955]The facilities were in good condition when I went. Zero problems in this regard with respect to this club.[/QUOTE]So I am likely to have one night only in Cologne next week. I was thinking to head back to Samya, but the reports on this club having been renovated etc have made me wonder.
From experienced members to these forums, I pray: tell: which club if you only had one good afternoon / evening? Mondial? Samya? Babylon? I tend to prefer the slightly larger clubs, love the professional massage in between sessions and pool if operational. But more important than all of course is the LU. Whilst I don't expect any (or many) to be able to compare current LUs given the clubs are only just opening, I'm interested to know from those who have attended in the past year which club they'the visit given the choice of any in Cologne for one night. Thanks in anticipation.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2483997]So I am likely to have one night only in Cologne next week. I was thinking to head back to Samya, but the reports on this club having been renovated etc have made me wonder.
From experienced members to these forums, I pray: tell: which club if you only had one good afternoon / evening? Mondial? Samya? Babylon? I tend to prefer the slightly larger clubs, love the professional massage in between sessions and pool if operational. But more important than all of course is the LU. Whilst I don't expect any (or many) to be able to compare current LUs given the clubs are only just opening, I'm interested to know from those who have attended in the past year which club they would visit given the choice of any in Cologne for one night. Thanks in anticipation.[/QUOTE]My order of preference would be:
1. Samya (met one of hottest Romanian girls I have ever been with here named Raissa).
2. Mondial (close second as there were some hot tutes at this place and I liked the vibe).
3. Babylon (facilities were good but I overwhelmingly preferred the talent at the other two clubs).
PayForIt,
I cannot compare other clubs, only hearsay from girls currently working in Samya. Sofas in the main bar area are marked for 1.5 meter distance. When sitted, you can take the mask off. Otherwise masks anytime when walking. No dj, no dancing on stage, music less loud. Rooms rules are the same (no masks), BBBJ could cost you extra. The girls already making ton of money starting last Friday, room after room, plenty of guys for them to pick, they all look happy when we speak. Club open till 5 in the morning like before the pandemic, LU greatly improves around 20:00. Some girls even say they let themselves have one or two orgasms in rooms with younger good looking guys. In general, male attendance in Samya shifted to younger age. Sunday was less guys, but same amount of girls. The girls want to make as much money as possible before compatriots return from lovely Romania. I didn't ask about the massus, but sauna operational. Plastic "walls" around tables in the restaurant, food is brought to the table. Hope others can write about other clubs for comparison. Best of luck!
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2483997]So I am likely to have one night only in Cologne next week. I was thinking to head back to Samya, but the reports on this club having been renovated etc have made me wonder.
From experienced members to these forums, I pray: tell: which club if you only had one good afternoon / evening? Mondial? Samya? Babylon? I tend to prefer the slightly larger clubs, love the professional massage in between sessions and pool if operational. But more important than all of course is the LU. Whilst I don't expect any (or many) to be able to compare current LUs given the clubs are only just opening, I'm interested to know from those who have attended in the past year which club they'the visit given the choice of any in Cologne for one night. Thanks in anticipation.[/QUOTE]Not only around Koln, but in NRW, Samya is the most interesting for looks if You love Romanian beauties, but You have to work more at Samya to get good from girls. Bab can t compete for looks, nor anymore LR and I think GT, when Samya have full casting, maybe why Katea moved to GT where she is above for look, when was not anymore at Samya after 4 years. Most of girls usually return to Samya, like Francesca, Clara. Just wish my woman types will return, when I made big mistake to go to a cute but little girl I already noticed when I arrived on parking. Full natural beauty, but with my behavior, after few caresses on her, she started asking: You like me? We can speak, relax together, when she speaks only few English, but starting to speak in Romanian when I told her I wanted sex. Natural BJ but no high skill, I stopped fucking because I didn't know if hurting her or not, so I put off condom and was on the edge of the room at 25 mn. Then she claimed we were for 40 mn. I didn't answer but took paper on desk, making read to Aida on desk and asking why little girl asked me for 40 mn when she was not able to do anything for sex. They took her, I told them I would pay her, it was my mistake to go with her, little girls are not able for me, I need women, but exceptional Samya staff gave me back with free entry. Then I decided to try again Tina after about 5 years, I was surprised by her great welcome, woman look except tattoo on arm, but not free in mind for love in bed. You find girls for this? She asked. Even at Samya where some really improved and Katea was high level in bed. But as I answered: I never asked any WG if she loves me, when they ask if you love them, then it s complicated, not to answer not to kill the room, or if she wants to live with me or marry me, not even to meet outside, because not my image of my woman in real life, I never answered about any invitation to go to Romania. Only had Russian nights with escorts in Paris. We just fit for fucking when I think she really felt me inside, I asked her if hurting? No. I asked to change for doggy, oh no she answered, but like most of girls, she trust me and we went for doggy with no hurting, just breathing loudly. Not for sex like at home together, but we can stay friends. But had 4/5 girls for sex like at home at Samya, just have to choose woman types who are also woman in mind, but for sure, not little girls even they can be pretty, but not woman enough in mind and little girl vagina. I remember I couldn't even full enter in Luana LR when she started at LR on 2016, never thought to repeat, even she was friendly and honest, but we didn't fit for size. Never had such problem in real life when women usually seem to prefer to feel something inside them.
For the responses. I had figured on Samya but the unanimous confirmations make the decision easy.
Not sure I love the sound of the "young" male audience but we will give it a go and if poor by 9 pm will jump a cab to Mondial given Cane's comments. Many thanks and will report.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2484319]For the responses. I had figured on Samya but the unanimous confirmations make the decision easy.
Not sure I love the sound of the "young" male audience but we will give it a go and if poor by 9 pm will jump a cab to Mondial given Cane's comments. Many thanks and will report.[/QUOTE]The other thing is that it's a hell of a haul to get to Babylon from city center where I was. I think you have the right plan. Start at Samya. And if you're not feeling it, then head to Mondial. You lucky dog you! Us yanks are still blockaded out of Europe! Why? We helped save it. Twice! Let me in!
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2484319]For the responses. I had figured on Samya but the unanimous confirmations make the decision easy.
Not sure I love the sound of the "young" male audience but we will give it a go and if poor by 9 pm will jump a cab to Mondial given Cane's comments. Many thanks and will report.[/QUOTE]Samya is very quiet for reopening, no bad DJ, no loud manele, not many Turkish, and it was Saturday night, but not fever because staff take your temperature on entry.
Do the ladies have to share the locker / changing rooms so you can have the fantasy come true where yo get to walk into the girls changing rooms and they won't be able to kick you out and have to don't continue to undress and lower their panties as you watch or let your assist them and maybe continue to getting fingers oral and sex in the changing room, assist them in the shower. If so is there a shift change (when covid is over of course) when you can turn up as they queue up in their civilian clothes getting to mentally undress them before following them into the changing room for the unwrapping?
Yes everyone is going to get naked, but this would double the fun like unwrapping the pressies and the fantasy you had since being in teens etc.
[QUOTE=JoeyFeliney;2534293]Do the ladies have to share the locker / changing rooms so you can have the fantasy come true where yo get to walk into the girls changing rooms and they won't be able to kick you out and have to don't continue to undress and lower their panties as you watch or let your assist them and maybe continue to getting fingers oral and sex in the changing room, assist them in the shower. If so is there a shift change (when covid is over of course) when you can turn up as they queue up in their civilian clothes getting to mentally undress them before following them into the changing room for the unwrapping?
Yes everyone is going to get naked, but this would double the fun like unwrapping the pressies and the fantasy you had since being in teens etc.[/QUOTE]I've only encountered shared lockers at GT.
At Bab, if you have a locker downstairs, you can be with girls, and you can also take shower downstairs with girls. Can also take shower with girls upstairs at Gold, at History Liestal, at Globe, at GT Vienna.
[QUOTE=JoeyFeliney;2534293]Do the ladies have to share the locker / changing rooms so you can have the fantasy come true where yo get to walk into the girls changing rooms and they won't be able to kick you out and have to don't continue to undress and lower their panties as you watch or let your assist them and maybe continue to getting fingers oral and sex in the changing room, assist them in the shower. If so is there a shift change (when covid is over of course) when you can turn up as they queue up in their civilian clothes getting to mentally undress them before following them into the changing room for the unwrapping?
Yes everyone is going to get naked, but this would double the fun like unwrapping the pressies and the fantasy you had since being in teens etc.[/QUOTE]When Oase was under renovation several years back, we were sharing the changing room with the girls, you could see them arriving, shaving, make up. Also in GT Vienna you share the showers with the girls. For me it is not really exciting to see the girls shaving, peeing.
[QUOTE=Palcon;2534335]I've only encountered shared lockers at GT.[/QUOTE]And also in Park sauna residenz maybe, no?
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2534391]When Oase was under renovation several years back, we were sharing the changing room with the girls, you could see them arriving, shaving, make up. Also in GT Vienna you share the showers with the girls. For me it is not really exciting to see the girls shaving, peeing.[/QUOTE]I love looking at girls preparing, shaving, washing breasts and pussy, erotic to warm up desire, much more enjoyable than small dicks still up under Viagra. Not interested by make up when some girls need 1 hour to make their hair and make up, when a bad guy like me usually change their hair and even sometimes their eyes make up, and from my manners to touch them, they usually look me with round eyes but let me do, also touching and kissing their face, I usually start like this, to create a dream for my eyes, to motivate my desire to work to play my game, then listening to girls reactions and adapting, some girls showing their sensitive spots, some helping rubbing clit on tongue to finish. Erotism and sensuality are so much more enjoyable than porn.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2534542]I love looking at girls preparing, shaving, washing breasts and pussy, erotic to warm up desire, much more enjoyable than small dicks still up under Viagra. Not interested by make up when some girls need 1 hour to make their hair and make up, when a bad guy like me usually change their hair and even sometimes their eyes make up, and from my manners to touch them, they usually look me with round eyes but let me do, also touching and kissing their face, I usually start like this, to create a dream for my eyes, to motivate my desire to work to play my game, then listening to girls reactions and adapting, some girls showing their sensitive spots, some helping rubbing clit on tongue to finish. Erotism and sensuality are so much more enjoyable than porn.[/QUOTE]More and more guys are showering with pants, you know that kind of guy, big car, big muscles but can not be naked under the shower, 10 years back you could never see this but the world is changing, for better remains a question mark.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2534681]More and more guys are showering with pants, you know that kind of guy, big car, big muscles but can not be naked under the shower, 10 years back you could never see this but the world is changing, for better remains a question mark.[/QUOTE]With my compact car cleaning German autobahns, because better for dynamic, I m proud of my tool under shower, even without being still up, when don't need viagra after 50, and I'm also proud of my tool, fit firm body, face and hair in front of girls, full self confidence. I wonder how they wash with pants, some having socks, or casquet, or sunglasses in a dark brothel, when I most often don't put sunglasses when skiing above 3000 meters high.
This club has announced it may reopen from 7 June: [URL]https://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/[/URL].
[QUOTE=RockyV;2563555]This club has announced it may reopen from 7 June: [URL]https://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Brothels will need to wait for allowance. Information to confirm but French may not even need to test to go for 1 day, when UK have to quarantine 15 days for Germany and France.
[QUOTE=RockyV;2563555]This club has announced it may reopen from 7 June: [URL]https://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Good to know! The "number" in the regio is now at 44,4/100 K citizens, and should be below 35/100 K, probably next week it falls below this threshold!
[QUOTE=Maxime;2563743]Good to know! The "number" in the regio is now at 44,4/100 K citizens, and should be below 35/100 K, probably next week it falls below this threshold![/QUOTE]The latest RKI dashboard shows 37.5 for the country and 41.6 for NRW so now it has to drop below 35 and stay that way for a week. That means that it could happen if the state allows brothels and such to open at the same time as other places.
I thought that September was going to be unlikely after so many false starts around Europe, I am happy if this turns out to be true, by September it's very likely that I will be able to head over.
[QUOTE=Downandup;2563767]The latest RKI dashboard shows 37.5 for the country and 41.6 for NRW so now it has to drop below 35 and stay that way for a week. That means that it could happen if the state allows brothels and such to open at the same time as other places.
I thought that September was going to be unlikely after so many false starts around Europe, I am happy if this turns out to be true, by September it's very likely that I will be able to head over.[/QUOTE]I thought they look at this number per Kreis (region), therefore several clubs will re-open next week (in Kreis Wesel, etc).
But anyway good that it slowly will happen now!
[QUOTE=Maxime;2563778]I thought they look at this number per Kreis (region), therefore several clubs will re-open next week (in Kreis Wesel, etc).
But anyway good that it slowly will happen now![/QUOTE]You are correct, I was not aware of this until today. [URL]https://www.land.nrw/de/pressemitteilung/mit-neuen-regelungen-der-coronaschutzverordnung-zeigt-die-landesregierung-klare[/URL] Brothels in regions are allowed to open with testing when the rate drops below 35.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2563778]I thought they look at this number per Kreis (region), therefore several clubs will re-open next week (in Kreis Wesel, etc).
But anyway good that it slowly will happen now![/QUOTE]Beware however that the owner again thinks it is a good idea to increase entrance prices (+5 euro, and +40 euro for men who have their birthday!
See: [URL]https://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/[/URL].
Also strong rumour is the prices of the girls will be increased. Interesting to see if number of visitors will decrease again significantly like last year...........
It would be totally suicidal to increase the price of the half-hour considering the economic crisis coming.
But well, some people are not always reasonable.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2564795]It would be totally suicidal to increase the price of the half-hour considering the economic crisis coming.
But well, some people are not always reasonable.[/QUOTE]I wonder how it is in Europe compared to the US. Here, the average middle class has more money in their bank accounts prior to 2020 (I guess due to the stimulus money and lack of places to spend money). Average savings rates nearly doubled in 2020. But purchasing power has declined. Prices here have generally gone up in most sectors. What's it like in Europe?
[QUOTE=Maxime;2564783]Beware however that the owner again thinks it is a good idea to increase entrance prices (+5 euro, and +40 euro for men who have their birthday!
See: [URL]https://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/[/URL].
Also strong rumour is the prices of the girls will be increased. Interesting to see if number of visitors will decrease again significantly like last year...........[/QUOTE]Eddy should increase for painful balls rush, but Swiss clubs offer discount.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2564897]I wonder how it is in Europe compared to the US. Here, the average middle class has more money in their bank accounts prior to 2020 (I guess due to the stimulus money and lack of places to spend money). Average savings rates nearly doubled in 2020. But purchasing power has declined. Prices here have generally gone up in most sectors. What's it like in Europe?[/QUOTE]Individual people did not get any stimulus money in Europe. Most employees still have their job but many small businesses like cafés, restaurants and event-companies are about to go bankrupt.
And yes, prices will go up.
[QUOTE=Mechelen;2564972]Individual people did not get any stimulus money in Europe. Most employees still have their job but many small businesses like cafs, restaurants and event-companies are about to go bankrupt.
And yes, prices will go up.[/QUOTE]Many people lost job in Europe, when France paid many people who couldn't work because their work was closed. In rich small Switzerland, at least 5 clubs propose discount offers, even when they were the only open. After painful balls rush, I don t think brothels will be so crowded, because many guys don't like to have to give data, so, less Balkanians who became quite big part of business. QR code will also not help for business and would be funny to see brothels controlling QR code.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2564897]I wonder how it is in Europe compared to the US. Here, the average middle class has more money in their bank accounts prior to 2020 (I guess due to the stimulus money and lack of places to spend money). Average savings rates nearly doubled in 2020. But purchasing power has declined. Prices here have generally gone up in most sectors. What's it like in Europe?[/QUOTE]I think also in the US the situation is quite different between a highly paid software engineer living on the west coast or a retired guy in Florida or a farmer from Arizona or a single mum with 2 children in NY, so it is the same in Europe. In none competitive economies like France, Italy, Spain the prices are facing strong inflation but this is not true in Germany or eastern Europe. The crisis is bringing big changes like people selling the apartments in the city centres to buy a house outside the cities, home working means also less travel. In March 20 I invested strongly on the stock market with very good results 1 year later, crisis always are bringing opportunities. My real-estate investment from 2018 has triple the value, I am not desperately waiting the reopening of the FKK to fuck, sex is not forbidden and I would say for those who are not so stupid, a bit attractive and flexible the opportunities are like on the stock market or real-estate very important at least for me.
Did re-open yesterday with higher entrance price (75 Euro for full day) and higher room rates (60430), not much going on (approx 10-14 girls), but ok, it was first day. Let's see what happens, but I hear from many regulars they will avoid since better AND cheaper alternatives are around.
According to reports in several for a the extra-pricing has been moved up as well. 35 Euro instead of 25, no idea is the price for anal has doubled as well. This club is becoming more and more overpriced in the NRW-area. Line-up of 15 girls approximately during the first week, all Rumanians. Ridiculous pricing for what's being offered.
Kity ex Angel. Ro and her big friend before her, Barbie came from, before moving and finishing at GT, Kity running away to YY.
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2571298]According to reports in several for a the extra-pricing has been moved up as well. 35 Euro instead of 25, no idea is the price for anal has doubled as well. This club is becoming more and more overpriced in the NRW-area. Line-up of 15 girls approximately during the first week, all Rumanians. Ridiculous pricing for what's being offered.[/QUOTE]35 for CIM?
[QUOTE=Maxime;2569541]Did re-open yesterday with higher entrance price (75 Euro for full day) and higher room rates (60430), not much going on (approx 10-14 girls), but ok, it was first day. Let's see what happens, but I hear from many regulars they will avoid since better AND cheaper alternatives are around.[/QUOTE]Thank you for reporting. Curious whether the Hessen clubs when they reopen will have similar increases. Hope not, but the girls are aware plenty of guys have been saving up for the past year and can afford to spend more. Even I am tempted to budge a little after a year and an increase in means.
I know however that the increased competition as more girls arrive will keep some of the price increases in check as the months go by.
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2571855]Thank you for reporting. Curious whether the Hessen clubs when they reopen will have similar increases.[/QUOTE]Unofficially I can definitely see the WGs in Hessen demanding more. Changing official rates, I am not sure that would be wise. From my standpoint, there is a lot of uncertainty regarding reopening, inflation, economy, whether customers will be scared off by tracking. Hessen is also more dependent on overseas mongers.
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2571855]Hope not, but the girls are aware plenty of guys have been saving up for the past year and can afford to spend more. Even I am tempted to budge a little after a year and an increase in means.[/QUOTE]The mongers should also be aware that many of the WGs need money and exercise some willpower. But that is probably asking too much.
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2571855]I know however that the increased competition as more girls arrive will keep some of the price increases in check as the months go by.[/QUOTE]Hessen clientele will probably let the WGs get away with it.
Don't forget that the girls need more our money than we need them. For most of them, their alternative is to go flip some burgers in Mac Donald's or stack the shelves in Lidl. It's rather obvious that if mongers keep on going to Babylon, the price increase will spread everywhere. Men were able to survive during the pandemic no, their balls didn't explode?
And for tefab, yes it's 35 euros now.
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2571855]Thank you for reporting. Curious whether the Hessen clubs when they reopen will have similar increases. Hope not, but the girls are aware plenty of guys have been saving up for the past year and can afford to spend more. Even I am tempted to budge a little after a year and an increase in means.
I know however that the increased competition as more girls arrive will keep some of the price increases in check as the months go by.[/QUOTE]With test asked, ID control and data to write, clubs are not so crowded, girls being hungry for business. At Samya Koln, entry still 50 with fifth for free, meaning entry 40 on average, and girls rate still 50. Got higher potential for sex than at GT or Globe, for this rate. High level girls usually don t speak about money and prefer to make regulars, a way to select girls. I usually don't repeat with upselling, even when they are good.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2571915]Unofficially I can definitely see the WGs in Hessen demanding more. Changing official rates, I am not sure that would be wise. From my standpoint, there is a lot of uncertainty regarding reopening, inflation, economy, whether customers will be scared off by tracking. Hessen is also more dependent on overseas mongers.
The mongers should also be aware that many of the WGs need money and exercise some willpower. But that is probably asking too much.
Hessen clientele will probably let the WGs get away with it.[/QUOTE]I think your battle is going to be between maintaining smart / thrifty spending habits versus supply and demand. Maybe in NRW, where there many more blue collar workers, you may see that the basic economics is the same or maybe clients are in even worse financial situations. In an area like Hessen that has a lot of out of town money, you will see more white collar clients. From my impression, white collar workers have been much less affected financially. With that, the fair market value of a session would naturally increase.
Combine that with the fact that the girls will compare the 50 e session against this past year's 150 e per session regardless money made based on volume, I'm interested to see how this will play out.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2572207]I think your battle is going to be between maintaining smart / thrifty spending habits versus supply and demand. Maybe in NRW, where there many more blue collar workers, you may see that the basic economics is the same or maybe clients are in even worse financial situations. In an area like Hessen that has a lot of out of town money, you will see more white collar clients. From my impression, white collar workers have been much less affected financially. With that, the fair market value of a session would naturally increase.
Combine that with the fact that the girls will compare the 50 e session against this past year's 150 e per session regardless money made based on volume, I'm interested to see how this will play out.[/QUOTE]What happens if the inflation rate in the US goes BSC but remains under control in the EU? How will this affect the exchange rate? If girls raise their rates, will it be a double whammy fur die Amerikaner?
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2572207]From my impression, white collar workers have been much less affected financially. With that, the fair market value of a session would naturally increase.[/QUOTE]Seeing a WG is a discretionary expense. Most of us on ISG see P6 as a necessity because we have our hardcore monger goggles on.
When the cost of cigarettes goes up, social smokers can use that as a convenient reason to quit or cut back significantly. But a chain smoker, who is chemically addicted, will consume at the same rate, despite prices increasing. Or let's say from age 25-35 your income tripled. Being a hardcore monger, we can assume that your mongering spend probably tripled (or at least doubled). But can the same be said about other hobbies that you are less passionate and enthusiastic about?
When the price of something goes up significantly, sometimes consumers respond by buying less. Back in 2016 at Sharks, there was the young Turkish guy who was there almost everyday. There was the guy Siri used to call "hermaphrodyte", and his Balkan-German best friend. Those three were always sitting near the Sharks money locker. By 2019, none of them were around. They didn't quit cold turkey, but it was gradual. I bumped into the Balkan maybe 2018. He told me he stopped attending because the WGs' attitudes got worse. I couldn't disagree with him. I asked him if he found another "favorite" club. He flatly said he didn't monger that much any more.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2572207]Combine that with the fact that the girls will compare the 50 e session against this past year's 150 e per session regardless money made based on volume, I'm interested to see how this will play out.[/QUOTE]Yah that is why I believe the WGs will make attempts to increase prices over the next 90-180 days. If they are successful, then the prices will remain high. ACA Velbert tried the same from July 2017 to maybe November 2017, before returning back to normal prices. But like you said, that is a more remote, working class club.
[QUOTE=Clodius1;2572288]What happens if the inflation rate in the US goes BSC but remains under control in the EU? How will this affect the exchange rate? If girls raise their rates, will it be a double whammy fur die Amerikaner?[/QUOTE]That certainly would be a possible and unfortunate outcome for us Americans. Good thing I keep 9,999 euro in my TransferWise account. #ProTip.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2572306]Seeing a WG is a discretionary expense. Most of us on ISG see P6 as a necessity because we have our hardcore monger goggles on.
When the cost of cigarettes goes up, social smokers can use that as a convenient reason to quit or cut back significantly. But a chain smoker, who is chemically addicted, will consume at the same rate, despite prices increasing. Or let's say from age 25-35 your income tripled. Being a hardcore monger, we can assume that your mongering spend probably tripled (or at least doubled). But can the same be said about other hobbies that you are less passionate and enthusiastic about?
When the price of something goes up significantly, sometimes consumers respond by buying less. Back in 2016 at Sharks, there was the young Turkish guy who was there almost everyday. There was the guy Siri used to call "hermaphrodyte", and his Balkan-German best friend. Those three were always sitting near the Sharks money locker. By 2019, none of them were around. They didn't quit cold turkey, but it was gradual. I bumped into the Balkan maybe 2018. He told me he stopped attending because the WGs' attitudes got worse. I couldn't disagree with him. I asked him if he found another "favorite" club. He flatly said he didn't monger that much any more.
[/QUOTE]I think the point I'm making is that the Hessen clubs will have an elevated fair market value because fair market value is heavily influenced by the wealth of the region. With Hessen clubs being filled with more white collar international mongers who have largely acquired more wealth during the pandemic, the acceptable cost of Hessen mongering is in more danger of rising than NRW. Much like a Big Mac Meal in Zurich costing over 10 euro since that is the fair market value determined by the residence there, the price inflation in Hessen might dictate a higher fair market value due to the fatter wallets of the international mongers which may not be the case in NRW clubs often filled with local Blue collar and younger Turkish clientele.
Babylon specifically is not a young Turkish club. I believe many pensioners go there. Surely they have fatter wallets, having no place to spend it this past year. Perhaps they locals in that area will prop up those price hikes.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2572306]Seeing a WG is a discretionary expense. Most of us on ISG see P6 as a necessity because we have our hardcore monger goggles on.
When the cost of cigarettes goes up, social smokers can use that as a convenient reason to quit or cut back significantly. But a chain smoker, who is chemically addicted, will consume at the same rate, despite prices increasing. Or let's say from age 25-35 your income tripled. Being a hardcore monger, we can assume that your mongering spend probably tripled (or at least doubled). But can the same be said about other hobbies that you are less passionate and enthusiastic about?
When the price of something goes up significantly, sometimes consumers respond by buying less. Back in 2016 at Sharks, there was the young Turkish guy who was there almost everyday. There was the guy Siri used to call "hermaphrodyte", and his Balkan-German best friend. Those three were always sitting near the Sharks money locker. By 2019, none of them were around. They didn't quit cold turkey, but it was gradual. I bumped into the Balkan maybe 2018. He told me he stopped attending because the WGs' attitudes got worse. I couldn't disagree with him. I asked him if he found another "favorite" club. He flatly said he didn't monger that much any more.
Yah that is why I believe the WGs will make attempts to increase prices over the next 90-180 days. If they are successful, then the prices will remain high. ACA Velbert tried the same from July 2017 to maybe November 2017, before returning back to normal prices. But like you said, that is a more remote, working class club.[/QUOTE]From my first experience, in the NRW biggest opened club with about 30/40 girls, even not on top for casting compare to what I knew, but no increasing for entry nor girls, girls being hungry for business, not crowded on a Friday night, many guys don t like to have to give their data. On 2020 reopening, when we were asked our data, Globe was not so crowded. Wish long time Oase girls won t return, when they fuck business there, when fresh Romanian blood need money from misery at home.
Since the re-opening and the low number of men (and girls) visiting, a small change has already been made: only first half hour will cost 60 euro, for 1 hour it will be 110 euro, etc (so +50 for every additional hour in the room). Only the guys who make (Very) long sessions will appreciate this a bit, but let's hope the owner also will lower the first half hour AND of course the crazy entrance fee of Euro 75.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2572427]Since the re-opening and the low number of men (and girls) visiting, a small change has already been made: only first half hour will cost 60 euro, for 1 hour it will be 110 euro, etc (so +50 for every additional hour in the room). Only the guys who make (Very) long sessions will appreciate this a bit, but let's hope the owner also will lower the first half hour AND of course the crazy entrance fee of Euro 75.[/QUOTE]I don't believe they will decrease the entry ticket price, they know they have a poor LU so better to take the money even the guy will not return. Summer was never the best time for the LU I don t believe it will be different this year, I guess even worse. As long there will be no big fairs in Germany we will not see some semi pro working girls entering the business. Those girls were always great opportunities for guys like me looking for fresh and natural beauties.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2572427]Since the re-opening and the low number of men (and girls) visiting, a small change has already been made: only first half hour will cost 60 euro, for 1 hour it will be 110 euro, etc (so +50 for every additional hour in the room). Only the guys who make (Very) long sessions will appreciate this a bit, but let's hope the owner also will lower the first half hour AND of course the crazy entrance fee of Euro 75.[/QUOTE]Maybe he's thinking the higher rare will attract more girls which will attract more clients. Hiking up the entry price without ensuring a better product first is an odd move though.
But in real estate, sometimes you charge higher rent in order to deter some tenets. This might be one way the owner is keeping the club filled with German clientele rather than the crowds seen in Samya and Mondial without having to implement GT's selective door policies.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2572427]Since the re-opening and the low number of men (and girls) visiting, a small change has already been made: only first half hour will cost 60 euro, for 1 hour it will be 110 euro, etc (so +50 for every additional hour in the room). Only the guys who make (Very) long sessions will appreciate this a bit, but let's hope the owner also will lower the first half hour AND of course the crazy entrance fee of Euro 75.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, guessing you mean +50 for every half hour after the first. If you mean 50/ HR after, then that would be surprisingly great news if true.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2572356]I think the point I'm making is that the Hessen clubs will have an elevated fair market value because fair market value is heavily influenced by the wealth of the region. With Hessen clubs being filled with more white collar international mongers who have largely acquired more wealth during the pandemic, the acceptable cost of Hessen mongering is in more danger of rising than NRW. Much like a Big Mac Meal in Zurich costing over 10 euro since that is the fair market value determined by the residence there, the price inflation in Hessen might dictate a higher fair market value due to the fatter wallets of the international mongers which may not be the case in NRW clubs often filled with local Blue collar and younger Turkish clientele.[/QUOTE]Fair point about wealth of the region affecting prices. But the difference between Switzerland and German salaries is substantial $6261 versus $2957 (after tax per month). Whereas Hesse and NRW salaries are roughly the same €23943 and €22294 (per year).
[URL]https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=105[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_states_by_household_income[/URL]
I would liken it to the cost of alcohol. Overall consumption is probably roughly the same or slightly lower compared to twenty years ago, but my guess is a larger percentage of that consumption occurs inside homes. Mid-20's white collar professionals go out as frequently as their parents did back in the 1990's, but my guess is that they are buying 1-2 drinks per night out, rather than the 3-6 drinks that their parents bought.
If the WGs introduce price hikes, the hardcore mongers will still continue to session at the same rate, but the casual mongers will cut back. If that happens, it would be similar to what happens when alcohol taxes are increased. Compared to the general population, heavier drinkers are less price responsive.
[QUOTE]The empirical literature has consistently found that increasing the price of alcohol leads to a reduction in consumption. The magnitude of reduction is captured by price elasticity of demand: the change in consumption of alcohol as a result of a unit change in its price, keeping all other factors (e.g. income, prices of other products) constant. Accurate estimates of price elasticities represent a critical input for the design of alcohol taxation and pricing policies, because they indicate how much prices must increase in order to achieve the intended reduction in consumption.4Meta-analyses and reviews of estimates from a large body of international empirical research show that a one per cent increase in the price of alcohol will, on average, reduce demand for alcohol by around half of one per cent (see Table 1). The magnitude of elasticity differs for different population groups, but its sign is always negative. Meta-analyses show that price increases are slightly less effective at reducing drinking among young people compared with the general population, and male drinkers are slightly less responsive than female drinkers to price increases. Despite a perception that the heaviest drinkers may not be affected by tax and price increases, Wagenaar's meta analysis of estimates from 10 studies found that, overall, heavy drinkers are price responsive, albeit less than the general population, with a mean price elasticity of demand of −0.28.21 However, other reviews of research findings in this area obtain mixed results, with Nelson's recent review finding that only two of the 19 studies he includes show heavy-drinking adults to be significantly and substantially responsive to prices.
https://academic.oup.com/bmb/article/123/1/149/3958774..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2572728]Fair point about wealth of the region affecting prices. But the difference between Switzerland and German salaries is substantial $6261 versus $2957 (after tax per month). Whereas Hesse and NRW salaries are roughly the same 23943 and 22294 (per year).
[URL]https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=105[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_states_by_household_income[/URL]
I would liken it to the cost of alcohol. Overall consumption is probably roughly the same or slightly lower compared to twenty years ago, but my guess is a larger percentage of that consumption occurs inside homes. Mid-20's white collar professionals go out as frequently as their parents did back in the 1990's, but my guess is that they are buying 1-2 drinks per night out, rather than the 3-6 drinks that their parents bought.
If the WGs introduce price hikes, the hardcore mongers will still continue to session at the same rate, but the casual mongers will cut back. If that happens, it would be similar to what happens when alcohol taxes are increased. Compared to the general population, heavier drinkers are less price responsive.[/QUOTE]What happens in Sharks / Oase / Palace will give insight into how much these clubs actually rely on international mongers. I'm assuming that the wealth in the region is not perfectly correlated within the Swiss / German or Hessen / NRW wealth differences because the Hessen clubs specifically benefit from international mongers more so than locals (compared to NRW especially now that Dutch / Belgian attracting GT is gone).
If the Hessen WGs hike the prices, it would surely send Hessen clubs further into International mongers territory. I don't like that as I appreciate the local German's effect in keeping prices low and service levels high.
Anyway, my point is I do think that we will see pricing gouging from Hessen girls in the near future. Whether that is permanent will depend on how much local business versus international business supports the clubs (and girls).
Also, I made another post speculating how the Babylon entry hike may be used as a way to filter out specific clientele. I'm interested in seeing what will become of this especially since Babylon is the closest thing there is to former GT / LR environments and service levels.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2572568]Just to clarify, guessing you mean +50 for every half hour after the first. If you mean 50/ HR after, then that would be surprisingly great news if true.[/QUOTE]
Oops, sorry for the confusion, it is indeed +50 euro for every additional half hour! So in effect every session is +10 euro compared to before, which looks like the famous "+10 euro room charge" that was on the table a while ago......
And indeed, no expectations about lowering the entrance fee, and no reason better / more girls will come to Elsdorf because of the +10 euro (since the girls have to pay more also......). Already a fact is that much less men go there now because of the idiotic price increase in combination with the mediocre line up (other clubs that just re-opened are stacked with men, so see it s a premium to pay to have not so many other men around ;)).
[QUOTE=Maxime;2572818]Oops, sorry for the confusion, it is indeed +50 euro for every additional half hour! So in effect every session is +10 euro compared to before, which looks like the famous "+10 euro room charge" that was on the table a while ago......
And indeed, no expectations about lowering the entrance fee, and no reason better / more girls will come to Elsdorf because of the +10 euro (since the girls have to pay more also......). Already a fact is that much less men go there now because of the idiotic price increase in combination with the mediocre line up (other clubs that just re-opened are stacked with men, so see it s a premium to pay to have not so many other men around.[/QUOTE]Summer was never the best time for LU, this year I think it will be worse. On top of that the Indian variant is around. I don t believe that the FKK experience can be the same than before therefor I am waiting at least 2022 to give another try.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2572744]What happens in Sharks / Oase / Palace will give insight into how much these clubs actually rely on international mongers. I'm assuming that the wealth in the region is not perfectly correlated within the Swiss / German or Hessen / NRW wealth differences because the Hessen clubs specifically benefit from international mongers more so than locals (compared to NRW especially now that Dutch / Belgian attracting GT is gone).
If the Hessen WGs hike the prices, it would surely send Hessen clubs further into International mongers territory. I don't like that as I appreciate the local German's effect in keeping prices low and service levels high.
Anyway, my point is I do think that we will see pricing gouging from Hessen girls in the near future. Whether that is permanent will depend on how much local business versus international business supports the clubs (and girls).
Also, I made another post speculating how the Babylon entry hike may be used as a way to filter out specific clientele. I'm interested in seeing what will become of this especially since Babylon is the closest thing there is to former GT / LR environments and service levels.[/QUOTE]In the recent years, less and less German senior mongers are visiting FKK, they are replaced by younger guys with migration background, mostly married and just able to spend 1 or 2 hours in the FKK. The girls are saying that this clients are far less demanding than the German one, no licking, no kissing may be sometimes CIM or anal that is all.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2572818]Oops, sorry for the confusion, it is indeed +50 euro for every additional half hour! So in effect every session is +10 euro compared to before, which looks like the famous "+10 euro room charge" that was on the table a while ago......
And indeed, no expectations about lowering the entrance fee, and no reason better / more girls will come to Elsdorf because of the +10 euro (since the girls have to pay more also......). Already a fact is that much less men go there now because of the idiotic price increase in combination with the mediocre line up (other clubs that just re-opened are stacked with men, so see it s a premium to pay to have not so many other men around .[/QUOTE]Didn't see Samya crowded on last Friday and even at night. Seem new attractive German at Bab, don't know for her look.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2572836]Didn't see Samya crowded on last Friday and even at night. Seem new attractive German at Bab, don't know for her look.[/QUOTE]New, blond german girl there is Annabelle. Nice face, but look at the pics on website for more............... And don't expect many romance and intimacy as you had before from Romanian princesses ;)
Yesterday lineup had about 25 girls. At any given time there were even less men. So the new pricing does its job: be.
Some "new" girls, that worked for ages in GT (Lulu, Andrea), and the rest of the LU also not very impressive. Happily some of the well-known gems where there, so had a good time, but not something you would return for every week. A la carte and BBQ where available, so food (and drinks) were fine.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2572818]Oops, sorry for the confusion, it is indeed +50 euro for every additional half hour! So in effect every session is +10 euro compared to before, which looks like the famous "+10 euro room charge" that was on the table a while ago......
And indeed, no expectations about lowering the entrance fee, and no reason better / more girls will come to Elsdorf because of the +10 euro (since the girls have to pay more also......). Already a fact is that much less men go there now because of the idiotic price increase in combination with the mediocre line up (other clubs that just re-opened are stacked with men, so see it s a premium to pay to have not so many other men around ;)).[/QUOTE]Additional news is that price for extra's is back to "normal" now (+25 euro). So now only the entrance fee and first half hour rate are off-market.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2572744]Anyway, my point is I do think that we will see pricing gouging from Hessen girls in the near future. Whether that is permanent will depend on how much local business versus international business supports the clubs (and girls).[/QUOTE]In Velbert, when the WGs tried to introduce a price increase, the mongers voted with their wallets. And it took 90-120 days for the WGs to return to market reality. That scenario is more likely in secluded Babylon than it is in Sharks. If Sharks WGs raised prices, I could see locals boycotting (after the initial euphoria). But the decreased attendance and patronage may prove fruitless, because the international mongers will rush in. Thus, that 90 consecutive days of decreased attendance and economic starvation that happened in ACA might never occur in Sharks. The fly-in, international monger demand is a little harder to forecast. I could be too easily influenced by what I read on ISG. Based on what I read here, the vast majority of ISGers are anxious and will return ASAP (or have booked their trip already). Is that reflective of the wider international monger market? Until tourism and business travel rebound, many non-hardcore mongers will not have an "excuse" to return to FKK land.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2573239]New, blond german girl there is Annabelle. Nice face, but look at the pics on website for more............... And don't expect many romance and intimacy as you had before from Romanian princesses ;)[/QUOTE]Body is not wow? Yesterday at Cleo. Ch, met exotic Kurd Syrian / German Sara with pretty face and slim, but too prostitute for me, when I still wish to find a Romanian elegant princess. I don t change my way.
I intend to be in the Cologne area on Aug 14th. Debating between Samya vs. Babylon? Or Both?
I like to hang around, get some beer, being able to fuck in the outdoor will be a plus. Oh, yeah. Swimming pool (heated?) will be great.
BTW, any recommendations to stay nearby for the night?
[QUOTE=Gfefan;2590093]I intend to be in the Cologne area on Aug 14th. Debating between Samya vs. Babylon? Or Both?
I like to hang around, get some beer, being able to fuck in the outdoor will be a plus. Oh, yeah. Swimming pool (heated?) will be great.
BTW, any recommendations to stay nearby for the night?[/QUOTE]Go to Bab early, enjoy swimming pool in garden, some girls can go with You, or inside jacuzzi and free beer on bar. If not good day, then move to Samya which is not far and wake up on evening. Enjoy as long open. Alexa. Ro at Bab is queen for sweet BBBJ, just delightful.
I recommend Samya, but yet to return since Covid. I read here that there's no party there because of restrictions but many girls have returned. I've never been to Babylon. Be careful tho, clubs might be closing soon because of rising cases.
[QUOTE=Gfefan;2590093]I intend to be in the Cologne area on Aug 14th. Debating between Samya vs. Babylon? Or Both?
I like to hang around, get some beer, being able to fuck in the outdoor will be a plus. Oh, yeah. Swimming pool (heated?) will be great.
BTW, any recommendations to stay nearby for the night?[/QUOTE]
Samya is dead BEFORE 20:00 and Babylon is dead AFTER 20:00, so best is to combine the both on 1 day. And have good sex in Babylon (in Samya that might be a challenge, many non performers there!) and after that relax in Samya 😉.
BTW, here you can see that the area of Babylon will go to level 2 incident rate as of tomorrow (August 10th): [URL]https://www.mags.nrw/sites/default/files/asset/document/210806_matrix.pdf[/URL].
So beware it can be closed (like the clubs in Dusseldorf had to close). But nobody really knows.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2590411]Samya is dead BEFORE 20:00 and Babylon is dead AFTER 20:00, so best is to combine the both on 1 day. And have good sex in Babylon (in Samya that might be a challenge, many non performers there!) and after that relax in Samya 😉.
BTW, here you can see that the area of Babylon will go to level 2 incident rate as of tomorrow (August 10th): [URL]https://www.mags.nrw/sites/default/files/asset/document/210806_matrix.pdf[/URL].
So beware it can be closed (like the clubs in Dusseldorf had to close). But nobody really knows.[/QUOTE]I agree for Bab for the afternoon, but not dead at 8 pm. Nevertheless, I prefer Samya with more beauties if You like Romanians. Best days being from Thursday to Saturday, and sometimes Sunday at Samya.
Because of high incident rate, as of today "massage only" in Babylon, no sexual services offered.
Depending on the incident numbers, this can last for several days or more. (at least 5 days as I understood).
[QUOTE=Maxime;2591287]Because of high incident rate, as of today "massage only" in Babylon, no sexual services offered.
Depending on the incident numbers, this can last for several days or more. (at least 5 days as I understood).[/QUOTE]Bad evolution under delta and what will be when Germans will come back from holidays, bringing back delta at home, when highest rates are in touristic places. I didn't see any covid or delta climbing with me in Iseran, maybe can t breathe in high altitude, but I was happy to see my friends little donkeys back. When I saw long time shops which are now closed, sad, but little donkeys are still alive. Fuck covid in mountains.
Oh damn. I was going to go there and then, Samya per previous suggestions. My plan is on Aug 14th.
Is this for all clubs in the region? If yes, I might postpone my trip.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2591287]Because of high incident rate, as of today "massage only" in Babylon, no sexual services offered.
Depending on the incident numbers, this can last for several days or more. (at least 5 days as I understood).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Maxime;2591287]Because of high incident rate, as of today "massage only" in Babylon, no sexual services offered.
Depending on the incident numbers, this can last for several days or more. (at least 5 days as I understood).[/QUOTE]I called them up and they said "Yes, massage only. But, what the girls do in the room is up to them."
Does that seem true? I'm now wondering if I should scratch my planned trip on Aug 14th. Any tips / guidance welcome.
[QUOTE=Gfefan;2591372]I called them up and they said "Yes, massage only. But, what the girls do in the room is up to them."
Does that seem true? I'm now wondering if I should scratch my planned trip on Aug 14th. Any tips / guidance welcome.[/QUOTE]If you go, ask girls before going to room, when club have to follow administration rules.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2591287]Because of high incident rate, as of today "massage only" in Babylon, no sexual services offered.
Depending on the incident numbers, this can last for several days or more. (at least 5 days as I understood).[/QUOTE]Incident rate up again (to 39,1), so let's see how long this will last.
It is depening on the regio (Kreis), so now Elsdorf (Babylon), Dusseldrof (e. G. Dolce Vita) and Koln (Samya) can not be open as a sex club for the moment.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2591697]Incident rate up again (to 39,1), so let's see how long this will last.
It is depening on the regio (Kreis), so now Elsdorf (Babylon), Dusseldrof (e. G. Dolce Vita) and Koln (Samya) can not be open as a sex club for the moment.[/QUOTE]It won't go down to under 35 for months. Even if people are vaccinated the delta variant will still be spreading.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2591737]It won't go down to under 35 for months. Even if people are vaccinated the delta variant will still be spreading.[/QUOTE]Today 42,1 so. A system change is needed, might be next Monday for NRW (like Baden Würtemmberg and Niedersachsen, they don't consider incident rate as the main KPI to open / close venues anymore).
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2591737]It won't go down to under 35 for months. Even if people are vaccinated the delta variant will still be spreading.[/QUOTE]I may be wrong here, but I think the criteria will change on the 23rd August, when the number of hospitalizations and vaccinations will also be taken into account before deciding business closures. So, I guess things may re-open in 10 days or so.
[QUOTE=RockyV;2592130]I may be wrong here, but I think the criteria will change on the 23rd August, when the number of hospitalizations and vaccinations will also be taken into account before deciding business closures. So, I guess things may re-open in 10 days or so.[/QUOTE]Yes you're wrong: in Germany everything that can be used to DELAY opening and to ADVANCE more lockdowns is pushed by the government.
The closer we get to autumn, the more bullshit 'science' will be pushed by MerKill & Co to make sure that things lock down again and the middle class can be further destroyed.
Oh, about those so-called 'hospitalisations' that people cry about:
German hospitals have been caught redhanded by a federal accounting office in deliberately understating the number of free ICU beds in order to get more money:
[URL]https://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/wdr/intensivbetten-daten-101.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/themen/coronavirus/spahn-bundesrechnungshof-ausgaben-corona-100.html[/URL]
And then the UK, show up at the hospital with a broken leg, but end up in the statistic as "being hospitalised with CONvid19" when your test comes up as 'positive' AFTER being admitted:
[URL]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/26/exclusive-half-covid-hospitalisations-tested-positive-admission/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Exclusive: Over half of Covid hospitalisations tested positive [b]after[/b] admission
Leaked data suggest vast numbers classed as being hospitalised by the virus when they were admitted with other ailments.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Maxime;2592058]Today 42,1 so. A system change is needed, might be next Monday for NRW (like Baden Wrtemmberg and Niedersachsen, they don't consider incident rate as the main KPI to open / close venues anymore).[/QUOTE]And today 51,8, so not going down at all.
Even the staff now thinks (temporarely) closing (of the current Massage salon) might be ahead soon.
[QUOTE=Maxime;2592479]And today 51,8, so not going down at all.
Even the staff now thinks (temporarely) closing (of the current Massage salon) might be ahead soon.[/QUOTE]This is how 'well' all those vaccines work. Most Europeans (vaxxed and unvaxxed) strongly believe that another horror winter with more national lockdowns and forced closures is just a matter of time.
Most people here on this forum have been seriously deceived by the CCP propaganda and scaremongering ("lockdowns, vaccines, apps, are the only way out") of people like Mursenary, PaulInZurich, Rocky V etcetera and all the lies from the politicians propagated and the mainstream media.
Joke of the day in the German Clubscene:
Official statement on the Babylonwebsite: due to the closing of a part of the highway after the exceptional rain and stormdisaster it has become rather inconvenient to reach Babylon and our clients have to make a slightly longer route to visit our club. Also more traffic and roadblocks which cause inconvenience. Therefore Babylon reduces it's entryprice back to 65 E for a day-card and the other options with 10 Euro as well to make a gesture to our clients from now on. Never heard such a load of bollocks to kind of admit what's been going on there since they decided to raise their entry prices after the re-opening. The disastrous weather was a month and a half ago by the way (great that the club responded almost immediately (irony modus on) and the road situation didn't change yesterday unfortunately for those which have still some mental ability. Babylon is becoming more and more the laughingstock of the club scene and with this statement they take their (decreasing number of) clients for complete fools even more than before.
The "unofficial" reasons for this "gesture" are actually:
* heavily decreasing number of girls working in the club.
*decreasing number of clients attending the club, who wants to pay 75 E for that kind of line-up anyway?? Or finds it remotely worth the price?
* a group of regular Babylongirls are working together in a close by location of Elsdorf in a private setting where numerous regulars visit them and that sinks the numbers on both male- and female side.
* more and more clients seem to fed up with the semi-boring situation in the club with girls in a bad mood, the usual bad mood of the owner's wife and so on.
Bot oh well, from now on (maybe until the roadblocks disappear, who knows 'cause that's the official reason, euuheuum euuheumm cough cough) guest get a reduced entry of "only" 65 Euro instead of 75 and the famous birthdaypartylists of let's say every other week-end day are back to 40 Euro instead of 50. Great! Yeah right. What a joke!
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2600286]Joke of the day in the German Clubscene:
Official statement on the Babylonwebsite: due to the closing of a part of the highway after the exceptional rain and stormdisaster it has become rather inconvenient to reach Babylon and our clients have to make a slightly longer route to visit our club. Also more traffic and roadblocks which cause inconvenience. Therefore Babylon reduces it's entryprice back to 65 E for a day-card and the other options with 10 Euro as well to make a gesture to our clients from now on. Never heard such a load of bollocks to kind of admit what's been going on there since they decided to raise their entry prices after the re-opening. The disastrous weather was a month and a half ago by the way (great that the club responded almost immediately (irony modus on) and the road situation didn't change yesterday unfortunately for those which have still some mental ability. Babylon is becoming more and more the laughingstock of the club scene and with this statement they take their (decreasing number of) clients for complete fools even more than before.[/QUOTE]Eddy made a lot of improvement works in his club and covid closed for months with less clients since then. Not so easy, but queen of BJ, superstar Alexa is still there. I just wish him to survive when Bab is in FKK legend and real FKK.
I have met a woman that is quite open for sexual adventures, we have been a couple for 18 month. I have told her about the FKK scene and my experiences in FKK: s. She has now opened up to visit some kind of establishment where she can get fucked by me and another male at the same time. I read on the homepage of Babylon that they accept couples but I cannot remember ever seeing a couple in there, only a female I recognized as a single guest prefering woman. I really like Babylon so I would like to introduce her to it but have anyone here a experience from this at club Babylon? I have no previous experience from going to anything like this as a couple.
[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2605931]I have met a woman that is quite open for sexual adventures, we have been a couple for 18 month. I have told her about the FKK scene and my experiences in FKK: s. She has now opened up to visit some kind of establishment where she can get fucked by me and another male at the same time. I read on the homepage of Babylon that they accept couples but I cannot remember ever seeing a couple in there, only a female I recognized as a single guest prefering woman. I really like Babylon so I would like to introduce her to it but have anyone here a experience from this at club Babylon? I have no previous experience from going to anything like this as a couple.[/QUOTE]I think I have seen a couple at Bab back in 2017. I suggest you call the club and discuss your options. Getting another male into the room is against the rules. Your only option will be that another man has to take one of the girls and you go into the room as two couples, then it should be ok. FKK Bernds Schieferhof is definitely very friendly for couples but the choices for girls and men may be limited. And you may consider gangbang parties as an alternative where all women get a wrist band of different color, meaning available for any sex with anybody, sex by invite only, or "just looking" meaning your girl is there only to watch others fuck. Good luck, sounds like you have a wonderful woman by your side. I am in DEU until the end of Sept and have an apartment near Koln. We can meet in club or in private if you want and I can help out with your needs, if your lady would consider taking a closer look at my glorious tool LOL. I am serious. Cheers.