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The previous illustration is a perfect point for all you newbie mongers to understand. Never, ever, ever fall for a PUTA. Extreme life choices and judgement lead to their choosen profession, and expect those same type of choices to be made with any relationship they have.
Successful relationships with PUTA are extremely rarely, and it is not a challenge that is worth undertaking, IMHO.
Thanks for the warning, Jimmy.
[QUOTE=Bad4URHeart]If you really want a decent hotel with a double room for about $50 a night, I would strongly advise you to get a hotel stateside in San Ysidro (motel 6, or the like).[/QUOTE]Travel Lodge is good too and much closer than Motel 6. They have good management now, no more credit card scan scams for the last 3 or 4 years.
This report is a little late but it's the first chance I've had to post.
I stayed at the Hotel Pueblo Amigo the weekend before Xmas and it was a pretty nice hotel, probable a 3 star by US standards. I parked on the US side and walked accross the border and then walked the few blocks to the hotel. The cab ride to the Zona from the hotel was $5 just like it is from the border. I was told in the past that there are some girls that work the hotel bar but I never saw any. There was however some pretty good night life in a mall right next to the hotels. A lot of night clubs and restaurants and it seemed to be mixed with visitors and "well to do" locals. There was a massage parlor in the mall and when I looked inside the girls looked pretty nice. A cab driver later told me, on my way downtown, that the girls all provided full service but that it was over $100 for the massage and extras.
Not the night life I was looking for, or the price I wanted to pay, so off to the Zona I went. There wasn't as many girls in the clubs or on the street as usual and I was told it gets even slow the closer you get to the holiday. Still there were plenty to choose from. I have noticed on my last few trips that some of the hotter ally girls will start there price at $40 when I ask in my horrible Spanish for Suky, Fuky, naked (sin ropa) 2 positions. They have always come down to $30 but on this trip some stuck to their original asking price. Even in AB I had a girl that wouldn't come off the $60 for the $50 that they all have accepted in the past. Of course in each case I passed and moved on to the next girl that interested me. I didn't want to be the stupid tourista the drove up the prices. Even with this I had a great time as usual and look forward to my next trip.
Stay safe,
Rider Jay
Man, I must say that you are way too involved. You made a spectacle of yourself. You got played by a professional, and reciprocated by assaulting the young lady and embarrassing yourself. You risked going to jail and seriously impacting your life because a hooker failed to return to your table and drink the beer that you purchased. The most reasonable course of action would have been to find another lady to drink with and to go on with your evening.
In your post you made reference to your mannerism stating that you are a well mannered man, most well mannered people that I know would not even think about pulling the stunt that you pulled. Respect yourself, you went way over board.
We are mongers, and to allow one self to loose all perspective, and then to place the blame on the ***** for loosing your perspective is ridiculous. She is a “puta” and she gets paid to be your girl. It is a fantasy.
It is like renting a car when you go on vacation. You check in, you get the keys, you take the car and drive it, and you return it. Even if you love the car, you don’t try to keep it. Hell if you like the car, you go out and buy one like it. Pay for pussy, not for love.
I believe the saying goes like this “you cannot turn a ***** into a house wife “. Now, you never mentioned that you wanted to marry her; however you overextended yourself to her game. She played you like a fiddle, and now you come to the board expecting that other mongers would pay homage to your stupidity by abusing her on their future trips to TJ. Senor, you need to give it all a rest, and regain your perspective.
I apologize if I sound like I am not feeling where you are coming from. It is actually the opposite; I see where you are coming from and think you need to hear some honest feedback.
Hey I feel bad for you but I do agree that tossing the beer on her wasn't the best idea. I think you taking a break from that club is a good idea and shows you understand it isn't worth the trouble. Unfortunately most of the girls in this line of business will take you for anything and everything. I definitely feel the girls in TJ are some of the worst I have ever been around which is why I have stopped going as much as I was, like 4 times a month. It is too bad but I like hearing the others here who have good experiences so you know it isn't 100% bad :) and there maybe a couple gfe types around. HK is also a decent place to chill but I also can't stand the constant hassle from those waiter friends of yours to buy the girl a 6 ouce beer for $7! Add the fact many girls are asking for 100 to go upstairs and the place is getting expensive even if it is still cheaper than the US. Anyway take care and I am sure people who read your message will stay away from this girl, I know I will because I don't need that type of negative drama when I'm there to relax and have fun. There is enough to deal with as I mentioned above and until things change, which I don't see it happening, I will be saving my money up and just taking trips to other countries instead. I live 20 minutes from the border so it sucks but I would rather save 2K and travel to another location on this site for 7 days of beautiful gfe treatment lol :)
One word tells it all "PUTA" Dude what the hell did you expect Susie fucking Home Maker!
IMHO the only thing the puta did was play the game, just like the game we are playing! We play why pay more? They play get him for all that he has fast and hard, amigo you just got played, plain and simple! This round she won, but do not let her win the next round, by having her rent space in your head!
I can bet you this, she is not letting your ass rent any space in her head, if you contacts you again, trust me she is just playing the game!
Dude just chulk it up to a mistake and MOVE on, and then win the next game with the next PUTA!
The only that is certain with the girls is that they are after your money. Once you get that straight, all else falls into place.
I hear where you are coming from and I almost fell for some puta that was playing me like I was her novio. But I was fortunate, during that time I met a really cool chick and now we are steady. I have forgotten about that ole puta in TJ that usta play me. If I were you I forget TJ alll together and start looking for a normal girl. Peace.
I think it helps to remember what these girls are for in the first place: pay your dinero, then fuck-and-chuck. Nothing more. Start falling in love and you'll soon be separated from your pesos.
Went down last Wed. to check the action because I haven't been in a while. Mainly I haven't gone because of the holidays but also do to the prices girls were asking and the quality of service. Well to make a long story short, it was twice as bad!!
First I headed to HK as my normal practice and the place does look nice with the remodeling. I knew the girl count would be low but shit it was pathetic. The girls here aren't the best to begin with and now take away 70-80% of all of the girls and see what you get :) It was Wed. and there were probably 5 to 1 ratio of guys to girls and I would say 3 girls total that were 7 or above. I found this new girl, I hope I am correct and her name was Anna because she was terrible! She was a pretty girl but she wouldn't even let you rub her tits in the private dance rooms. I was wondering if it was that didn't like me but then I noticed some guys had that VIP section to themselves and she kept pulling the guys hands away as he was trying to play around as well. I told the waiter she sucked, one of the worst I have ever experienced for a lap dance and he said she was new and I know that is probably true because I hadn't seen her before, still she sucked! Then I sat down with a girl named Jessica and when I thought things couldn't be as bad this girl was about as cold as a dead fish. I bought her a drink and she did let me touch her but then I said dance, she said no...I said fuck, she said no.... I asked for BJ, and another no but this time she was able to order another drink without me approving so I was really pissed. Some of these waiters are pricks and I won't order from certain guys anymore because they scam you as much as some of these girls. I asked one guy to talk with her, I don't speak spanish at all, and she said she was on her period but she was just a whacked bag!
So now I am horny and fucking pissed so I walk outside and there are a total of 4 street girls :) lol I am not happy. I asked the first girl how much and she says $35! I said damn you better sucky fucky for that...nope just fucky so I bailed and flashed her $50 while laughing, she didn't seem happy but whatever. After I went to what I thought was club Tropical but I have never been and if this is the place people mention I didn't like it at all. Is this place across the street and to the left if you are walking out of AB's? It is a little dancing place, well the one I went to, and basically the same as that Miami club so I didn't understand the concept. I bought a drink and left to go to AB. There were a couple hot girls here and way more than HK and the street, oh by maybe 30! It was still a little light and I'm not a huge fan of AB because 90% of the girls seem to have a pure pro attitude and you are paying a min. $50-60 for less than 20min in a room. If you add taxi service, parking, drink costs, etc.. this is really the same for several providers in the US and that is fucked up! Well I decided to take one girl up because I had to bang something and I don't recall her name. She was tall, 5'8, and skinny like a model. In fact if she was in the US she could easily be a fashion model because she is pretty and tall. She said the normal 60 for the action and we went. She wasn't as bad as some of the girls I have had there, good BJ actually, but overall she was probably a 5 on a 1-10 scale.
Overall I am getting more and more bitter about Mexico. I like the fact it is close to me but otherwise there seems to be little benefit now since I am paying at least 1/2 of what I would pay a provider here for an hour of time, a real GFE, and I have to deal with the police etc... It sucks too because I know things won't change with so many military and tourists going down. They don't seem to care and are usually the ones over-paying these girls.
[QUOTE=Rider Jay]This report is a little late but it's the first chance I've had to post.
I stayed at the Hotel Pueblo Amigo the weekend before Xmas and it was a pretty nice hotel, probable a 3 star by US standards. I parked on the US side and walked accross the border and then walked the few blocks to the hotel. The cab ride to the Zona from the hotel was $5 just like it is from the border. I was told in the past that there are some girls that work the hotel bar but I never saw any. There was however some pretty good night life in a mall right next to the hotels. A lot of night clubs and restaurants and it seemed to be mixed with visitors and "well to do" locals. There was a massage parlor in the mall and when I looked inside the girls looked pretty nice. A cab driver later told me, on my way downtown, that the girls all provided full service but that it was over $100 for the massage and extras.
Not the night life I was looking for, or the price I wanted to pay, so off to the Zona I went. There wasn't as many girls in the clubs or on the street as usual and I was told it gets even slow the closer you get to the holiday. Still there were plenty to choose from. I have noticed on my last few trips that some of the hotter ally girls will start there price at $40 when I ask in my horrible Spanish for Suky, Fuky, naked (sin ropa) 2 positions. They have always come down to $30 but on this trip some stuck to their original asking price. Even in AB I had a girl that wouldn't come off the $60 for the $50 that they all have accepted in the past. Of course in each case I passed and moved on to the next girl that interested me. I didn't want to be the stupid tourista the drove up the prices. Even with this I had a great time as usual and look forward to my next trip.
Stay safe,
Rider Jay[/QUOTE]Thank you for finally understanding & being one of those mongers WHO WILL REFUSE to pay extra $$$. The mongers who are new to the game dont understand, get the most for the least amount of $$$, thats half the fun of mongering (i think). We must take a stand against these putas & make them realize they are NOT worth $50+ We must unite as fellow mongers & take a stand. We will not pay high prices!!! :) :) :)
[QUOTE=Jimmy Tj]Most nights around midnight you will her stumbling around absolutely drunk off her ass to take the pain away from her miserable Puta lifestyle. She will tell you lies about wanting to change her life, needs money for her two girls etc. and even will cry to add emphasis. It is all an act to get money out of you believe me I know from my personal experience with this Puta. This Puta has ice ruining through her veins, absolutely no love in her heart and no manners what so ever (I think she was raised by wolves or maybe pimps). She will do and say what ever she can to extract as much money out of you as possible so don’t believe a word this Puta says to you[/QUOTE]
Jimmy, you just described 90-95% of all working girls. Get them before they get you. This is not to say that you can't be polite and treat them with respect- just be aware that its all about the deal for them. They pretend to like you so that you can give them money. That's their profession just like a sales rep will take you out and treat you right, not because he likes you, but he wants you to buy from him.
There isn't a woman alive, especially a prostitute, that should be able to get so far into a man's head.
So, chill, and remember the next time you're getting off with a chica that its all about the nut.
I do admit, though, that I'm more than a little curious about meeting Tania...
Peace,
Miller2k
I'm wondering if someone might be able to point me in the right direction for a massage with a happy ending or bj. I have done a search and there is next to no information on the TJ massage scene here, if indeed any exists. Thanks in advance for any help you might give me.
Well I went down Saturday night starting out by hitting the ally and it was dead, I did not see any of the chicas I like and the ones that were there were not that good looking. It was sort of strange as the girls were like clones and almost all of them looked the same or like they might be related in some strange way. It was sort of disturbing...
Anyways after checking out Miami bar we went over to Adelitas and there was like 50 fat bald sweaty guys to each girl which was a big turn off for me as I’m not banging some chick that’s been banged 10-20 times by these guys.
Next on to las chavales but I did not see any girls that I liked so we went to tropical and it also sucked arse.
Next we went to mermaids where my friend got a massage and sex for $80.00.
He claims it was a very good experience. I always figured mermaids to be a clip joint but maybe not.
Anyways I was pretty disappointed with the night as I normally go for the street girls near Miami but none of the ones and like were there and the ones that were there were not worth doing, with that said I think this was the first time I have gone down and not did a chica... maybe the chica shortage is due to the holidays? I don’t know, but it was pretty bad.
I may try again in a few days or a week but if this continues I probably will not be wasting my time down there anymore.
[QUOTE=Lucky Guitar]I'm wondering if someone might be able to point me in the right direction for a massage with a happy ending or bj. I have done a search and there is next to no information on the TJ massage scene here, if indeed any exists. Thanks in advance for any help you might give me.[/QUOTE]
Lucky, this is obviously your first trip so you should go to "Mermaids," directly across the street from Adelitas. Go to the bar, wait until you find a girl that turns you on, buy her a beer and then take her up for an hour. She'll massage you real good and then fuck your brains out.
I can't think of a happier ending than that.
Stay out of the dark places in the Zona at night. Stick to the big bars in the Zona (Adelitas, Chicago Club, Mermaids, Miami/Hong Kong etc.)
Post your trip report, have fun.
Country John
Am I the only one who noticed this?:
11-25-05:
[quote]I have had a 15 month relationship with a bar girl, rented a house in Playas de Tijuana for 6 months and I will write about all this in other posts[/quote]
then this:
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=414145&postcount=44]12-05-05[/url]
and this:
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=419020&postcount=56]12-24-05[/url]
and this:
12-25-05:
[quote]Any regulars who frequent Honk Kong take a girl named Tania up to the private booths or the hotel – what and how was the experience with her? She does not dance on the main stage but I see her dancing in a booth when you walk in the front door or on the bar top. I have seen her leave to go upstairs a few times with gringos.[/quote]
and finally this:
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=420523&postcount=547]12-30-05[/url]
Let's see here: You claim to have been in a "relationship" with Tania for 16 months. Were you actually "with" her, or were you just trying hard for a piece anyone could buy? You then tell how you feel like you've been played by her. If I only had sex with a working girl once in 16 months, I'd feel "played" too. You then tell her it's over, and fuck off. The very next day, you ask in a post dated 12-25-05 if anyone has had an experience with her, and how was it (huh?). :confused:
Your latest post has a warning to others and a plea to get her out of HK and onto the street where she can be fucked in the ass for $20. Why do I sense a bit of a feeble attempt to get even for her not giving herself to you completely, and choosing to continue as a working girl, even though you threw a lot of money her way.
As George Carlin said: "Whoever came up with the phrase 'let the buyer beware' was probably bleeding from the asshole."
Why do I sense a bit of a stalker mentality with your posts?
I live with a SW, who plays this trucker she has [u]never[/u] had sex with into sending her hundreds of dollars a week through Western Union. This guy literally has run out of money, and is now running up his credit cards to pay for her, and neglected his kids' college tuition. In 4 months, he's only seen her twice, but is so sure that she really loves him. Ha!
You got played, and you fucking deserved it.
Rush 2112
[QUOTE=Lucky Guitar]I'm wondering if someone might be able to point me in the right direction for a massage with a happy ending or bj. I have done a search and there is next to no information on the TJ massage scene here, if indeed any exists. Thanks in advance for any help you might give me.[/QUOTE]There are many massage + extras places in TJ. You mileage may vary, but all these places offer full service, with ususally a poor massage.
IN ZONA NORTE
Mermaids, across the street and 1/2 block west of Adelitas.
El Campamento, one block east of Adelitas, behind La Tropa Bar.
Purple Rain, one block east, then one block north of Adelitas on Revolucion.
Real Ejecutivo, check the website with the full name [url]http://www.realejecutivo.com[/url]
OUTSIDE ZONA NORTE
Luxxor, right next to the big Pueblo Amigo hotel, you cannot miss the hotel.
New Body Massage near Constitucion, check this forum for location
Mermaids on 8th
Cheaters on 6th
There are plenty more, but these can get you started. You can walk to the the parlors in the Zona if you are already there. Watch yourself if you are a newbie and going to El Campamento, and Purple Rain. A little danger exist off the beaten path, so keep your head on a swivel.
I would recommend talking a cab to most other places, unless you know your way around.
[QUOTE=Rush 2112]Am I the only one who noticed this?:
11-25-05:
then this:
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=414145&postcount=44]12-05-05[/url]
and this:
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=419020&postcount=56]12-24-05[/url]
and this:
12-25-05:
and finally this:
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=420523&postcount=547]12-30-05[/url]
Let's see here: You claim to have been in a "relationship" with Tania for 16 months. Were you actually "with" her, or were you just trying hard for a piece anyone could buy? You then tell how you feel like you've been played by her. If I only had sex with a working girl once in 16 months, I'd feel "played" too. You then tell her it's over, and fuck off. The very next day, you ask in a post dated 12-25-05 if anyone has had an experience with her, and how was it (huh?). :confused:
Your latest post has a warning to others and a plea to get her out of HK and onto the street where she can be fucked in the ass for $20. Why do I sense a bit of a feeble attempt to get even for her not giving herself to you completely, and choosing to continue as a working girl, even though you threw a lot of money her way.
As George Carlin said: "Whoever came up with the phrase 'let the buyer beware' was probably bleeding from the asshole."
Why do I sense a bit of a stalker mentality with your posts?
I live with a SW, who plays this trucker she has [u]never[/u] had sex with into sending her hundreds of dollars a week through Western Union. This guy literally has run out of money, and is now running up his credit cards to pay for her, and neglected his kids' college tuition. In 4 months, he's only seen her twice, but is so sure that she really loves him. Ha!
You got played, and you fucking deserved it.
Rush 2112[/QUOTE]
I was in the Navy right before the U.S. pulled out of the Phillipines. I used to see tons of sailors getting played like an X-box, and the girlies there used a lot of the same tricks you are talking about; some of the Filipinas who managed to immigrate to the U.S. are still using those same tactics. I'm so glad I saw that shit before I visited Tijuana for the first time, because (thanks to my previous experiences in Subic Bay) I immediately recognized the games..
[QUOTE=Bad4URHeart]There are many massage + extras places in TJ. You mileage may vary, but all these places offer full service, with ususally a poor massage.
IN ZONA NORTE
Mermaids, across the street and 1/2 block west of Adelitas.
El Campamento, one block east of Adelitas, behind La Tropa Bar.
Purple Rain, one block east, then one block north of Adelitas on Revolucion.
Real Ejecutivo, check the website with the full name [url]http://www.realejecutivo.com[/url]
OUTSIDE ZONA NORTE
Luxxor, right next to the big Pueblo Amigo hotel, you cannot miss the hotel.
New Body Massage near Constitucion, check this forum for location
Mermaids on 8th
Cheaters on 6th
There are plenty more, but these can get you started. You can walk to the the parlors in the Zona if you are already there. Watch yourself if you are a newbie and going to El Campamento, and Purple Rain. A little danger exist off the beaten path, so keep your head on a swivel.
I would recommend talking a cab to most other places, unless you know your way around.[/QUOTE]
Thanks B4YH. I guess the message from me is "be careful" because it's your [b]first trip[/b]. Sticking to a high profile place close to the action is a good idea until you become familiar with the area.
Country John
Good news, Marielos from Tropical is back. Bad news, I believe one of you guys on this board took her for the weekend so I wasn't able to see her.
I don't mind sharing my information so hopefully the person who was with her over the long weekend writes up a report on her. The reason why I think it is person on the board is because most girls in Tj won't spend the entire weekend with someone they met. As I reported a couple of months ago, Marielos spent a weekend with me in Rosarito.
So yes I was disappointed I wasn't able to see Marielos but it will be worth it, if that person shares his experience with the whole community. I would have been more dissapointed if there weren't hundreds of other chicas to turn to.
Once I learned that Marielos would not be available I needed to bust a nut. First stop the street scene. I will write more on this in the street walker section.
After my first nut I went to Caliente to recharge. You now must pay $10.00 to get in but you do get a $10 voucher. Some guys were paying the $10 then going to the cashier and getting their money back. I spent mine on some future bets.
About 16:00 I went to HK.. This is where I met Christina. A tall blond flauca. First stop the lap dance booth. She let me kiss whereever and I was able to stick my finger up her kitty. As soon as the lap dance was over, off to the hotel. At the hotel much more hot passionate kissing, plenty of daty and a whole lot of fun. The only mark against her was she gave a cbj. It wasn't bad but I prefer bbbj. Overall, great service. I left a happy camper. Bad news, she told me this Wednesday she is leaving for home for about 1 month. She lives in Monterrey.
I then went to have dinner, then to the Tropical. Here I met Angela. She is a big girl. Not fat but well proportioned and big tits. She gave me a smile and I bought her a drink. Things went well so I asked her up.
In the room I tried to kiss her. At first she was a little reluctant. I then daty and she loved it so much, she started to dfk me. Usually when you daty on these chicas they won't let you kiss them because they don't want to taste their own juice, so it was a good surprise when she started to kiss me.
She then gave me a cbj, again nothing bad nothing great. Started cg. then mish and finished doggie. Another satisfying session.
Both girls did not ask for money upfront, none rushed the session as we got the knock on both sessions. No, they did not squirt like Marielos but they were very good sessions.
Q
Ps. Cj, if you are reading this, thanks for the hotel recommendation but I will wait until I see Marielos again to try it.
I just had to reply to a couple of recent posters. I'm surprised someone has not already. Let's be realistic about what we have here. We are horny and want sex. We go to Tijuana because it is supposed to be cheap and easy. The girls are there to make money. Does anyone out there believe that the girls are hanging out in dirty alleys or prostutute bars in cheap clothing in hopes of falling in love with a rich American? Would a girl want to fall in love with a guy hanging out in these bars? Just because theyspeak a fireign language does not make them all totally stupid.
So I want to respond to the poster that said he could not stomach the idea of picking up a girls that had been banging too many fat, balding sweaty guys. Just what does he think they do for a living? Do they get cleaner if he picks them up at a time when the bar is less crowded? They're prostitutes, man! I'm not knocking them- just saying that unless you are one of the rare dudes to get a novice, then guess what, you get a girl that has been with other guys.
Then I want to respond to the guys bitching about prices. Welcome to the real world of capitalism. If you don't like it, don't go. Frankly, I have never had the kind of problems that some of these guys are griping about. I do know that it often makes a difference when the girls are treated with sone kindness, at least it has worked for me. You are going to pay a bit more for the better lookers. Why? Because this is what they can get. If you say no, they'll get it from some other sucker. Girls more in demand get more money. These girls are in business. Are they supposed to charge you less because you're an American expecting cheap Mexican pussy? Get over it! There are tons of girls in Tijuana. If one charges too much, smile, say "no gracias", and move on.
You claim that these girls are getting too close to American prices? Fine, go back to the US. Pick up some cheap ***** on the street. Pray that she is not part of an LE sting. Do it in the back seat of a car, hoping LE does not catch you in the middle of the act. Pray she doesn't grab your money and run off, or pull a knife. Pray her pimp doesn't show up and demand your wallet. Or you can always overpay for an American hotel, hoping that she won't lead you into an LE sting, run out of the room with your money, lead you into a room with a couple of dudes ready to rob you. Then if none of the above happens to you, hope she doesn't pull on your sick for 5 minutes and then say it is time to go. A hundred other guys could pipe in now with their horror stories from hunting in America. For the time being, I'll stick with Tijuana. Most of the experiences I have had surpass most American experiences. No, they were not 100% satisfactory. But if I were a betting man, my money is on Tijuana for a satisfactory experience at cheap prices.
Right on Hump! Put me down for a "ditto"!
I live in L.A. and I've seen many working women, but I've never taken the risk. Why, because of L.E. and the prices to quality ratio. I've been with several of the hotties in AB and a few really cute women on the street. I'm happy I can drive to T.J. The few experiences with polica have sucked and cost me some cash, but not the amount of court, lawyers, and fines. I've only had a few hotties that I'd rather had picked someone else, but that's just how it is. I need to remember names and details. I'll be mongering in other countries hopefully in 2006/2007, because of the pics and reports of many members here. I hope to contribute more in the coming months.
P.S. When does AB pick up again? Valentines Day :))
Hello to all you fellow perv's. Ill be heading to Tijuana the last week of may for a sex filled 10 day's. I've been reading the reports and thanks for the all the info. Anyone have the skinny on where to find the hottest 18-19-20 yr old chica's, ( clubs, street walkers, escorts). Im only looking for very fine chica's. Ugly's and so-so's are not on my agenda. Us gringo's know how hard it is to bang a teenie in the states. Im 35 and my plan is to knock the bottom out of many a fine teenie babe's while in TJ.
I've already found about 3 good escort websites in TJ, but the selection is limited for what Im looking for. Any one know of a good site or have a number for escorts. Im more interested in escorts coming to my room but I will not ignore the clubs and sw's. Any and all info will be helpful, and Ill be sending info and pics upon my return.... thanks, Travelin Pervert
Travllin P,
I would try Adelitas, Chicago, and Tropical. Between the three clubs you can easily find an 8+. The escort sites have not really gotten the better looking ladies yet. If you are going to be in town for 10 days you may even try hitting one of the clubs that the local TJ chicks go to. Tijauna has some beautiful civilians.
RE UMP,
I had a conversation with one of the street girls while in the room some time back. She said that she had been in TJ for just over one year. She said that she had been with so many men that she could not even remember any more. She also said that she was so overwhelmed by the experience that she could not have an orgasm, and she doubted that she could cum even if she masturbated which she does not do. She also put the number of men that she had slept with in the year long period at over 1500. For a street girl, sleeping with 1500 men at $30 is barely $45000. Not much of a reward for having to put out that much pussy.
I also met a chick at the Tropical that said that she started at Adelitas. She was funny. She said that all the big dicked men go to Adelitas. She said that she was getting plowed so much and so hard, she felt that it was up in her stomach many times. She said that it was not good for her p****, so she moved to the Tropical. She does not work as much in the room, and makes much less, but she said that she could not take it at Adelitas any longer.
You are right. These are prostitutes, and selling the nana to whoever has the money and wants it is what the do for a living. Guys no monger is special to these ladies. Many of these ladies actually hate the men that pay them. It is like a heroin addict that loves the drug, and the high, but hate what it does to there life. She loves the money but hates what she is doing for it.
Fellas, the next time you get that warm a fuzzy feeling, that tells you she is special or that uptight feeling that tells you that you are not like the rest of the boys, ask her how long she has been working. If she has been there for a year or more it is likely that she has been with hundreds of seedy ***** mongers. Many of which you would not invite over for dinner. Then pay her and go upstairs and reveille in that nana.
If they keep sellin it, somebody has to keep buying it.
Travelin-
I would agree with Double about the escorts, bars and local scene. I seem to find most of my young hotties in the “alley” behind Adelitas, (it’s not some dark alley; it’s a small, well lit street). They seem to be a much better bargain at first blush but they up-sell the shit out of you, making them nearly as expensive as the bar girls. Make sure you negotiate every little detail with them before you go up. (Sin Ropas: without clothes, multiple positions, suckie , fuckie, etc.)
There is also a bar in the alley called Hong Kong. The girls are hit and miss but it’s a great place to relax and have a beer. They just remodeled and it’s pretty nice.
Just as another possibility, since you will be having an extended stay, you might want to try Luxor. It’s a massage place. I went in a while back, at a cabbies insistence, and they had some good looking chicas. I did not partake but they were pretty good looking, albeit somewhat expensive. And as you have probably read, stay away from the Revolution clubs. Just my two cents. Happy hunting.
If you want more of a GFE experience then try the escorts. If you want a girl that will count sheep while you are on top of her then it is a toss up between the street and bar girls but I think street wins out for lamest screw. Honestly you could dig a hole in the sand at one our great beaches and have a better time than with some of these girls :) That being said there are a few around that will treat you good though so hopefully you find a decent one, don't over-pay either because you won't be happy with losing the extra cash.
I agree with UMP 1969.
Simple, hot, chicas and realistic expectations.
Only thing to add is that SGs will offer much better service if you are some sort of a 'regular' ie you do not screw their neighbours in front of them.
I have had 20$ sin ropas, todos and 30 $ for 2 sessions etc. so my suggestions are
1. do not push the price up
2. be nice to them (they can be very nice to you)
3. do not insult them.
4. be consistant (in not doing otras around them)
Buena suerte! (good luck)
I'am about to make my first trip to TJ in 2 weeks. Does most of the clubs there have onsite rooms? I'am looking for a fairly decent place where I could have my fun and at least wash up afterwards.
Had a quick stop in TJ Thurs. Had the cab drop me outside Chicago Club, but before going in, decided to first take a look at the street scene, as recent reports had pegged things as rather dead.
The street from CC to the alley only had a couple girls (the time was about 7pm), but the alley was very well stocked.
Decided to warm up in HK. When I went in, the place was in full swing. Not packed, but full. Only a couple open stools at the stage.
HK is great fun for those of you who haven't ventured in yet. Not a lot a strip bars in the US where you can diddle a strippers Lulu for a buck.
One of the strippers who had the right attitude was named Carol. After her dance I asked a waiter to find her for me. We sat for a bit, then upstairs for a lap dance with lots of DATY, then over to the hotel.
I always prefer BB FS or at least CIM, but she wasn't up for that. Started and finished with BBBJ (finishing on her tits) with a long session of hitting the Lulu inbetween.
Nice girl, nice smile, attitude, body, and a lot more comfortable than the CC or AB scene.
Gentlemen,
Been to TJ once 5 years ago or so and had a nice experience with an AB chica. I am heading there again in a few weeks and had a couple of questions for the experts:
- Want to see if I can swing some sexo en culo. What is my best approach to getting that in TJ?
- Certain bars best or street?
- Is it ok to just ask a girl and if she says know, ask who does that? How do I ask "which girls do that"?
- Is sexo en culo the right way to ask for it?
- What should I expect to pay?
- I notice in the reports a lot of switching positions, what is that all about? Do you all just like variety or is it a TJ thing? Seems like a lot of switching for a few minutes.
- I think I'd like to do some stripper groping or dirty dancin first. HK a good place for one or both so I don't have to leave ZN?
Muchas Gracias.
LM
Guys,
I visited TJ once about five years ago and will have a chance to return in a few weeks. Have been following the board, but wanted to ask a couple of questions:
- What is your advice on how to get culo? Where to go, how to ask, what to pay?
- Where is the best place in the Zona to grope some strippers?
- Why are you guys always going through so many positions with the chicas? Is it some TJ tradition to go through 5 positions in 15 minutes?
Thanks for the help.
LM
[QUOTE=Longer Monger]Guys,
I visited TJ once about five years ago and will have a chance to return in a few weeks. Have been following the board, but wanted to ask a couple of questions:
- What is your advice on how to get culo? Where to go, how to ask, what to pay?[/QUOTE]
Just come right out with it to the girl. Business is business. It will bear a premuim to the standard cost. Some guys have paid $20. to $30 extra. Not all girls will go for it, but you won't have to have very many interviews to find one who will. Be patient and talk to the girls. If the girl you're talking to comes back "no" then ask her who will go.
[quote]
- Where is the best place in the Zona to grope some strippers?[/quote]
Hong Kong Bar.
[quote]Why are you guys always going through so many positions with the chicas? Is it some TJ tradition to go through 5 positions in 15 minutes? [/quote]
I can only speculate, but probably they want a ride on top of busting a nut. Besides it's fun.
Now go have some and post!! Good luck!
Country John
[QUOTE=Ump1969]I just had to reply to a couple of recent posters. I'm surprised someone has not already. Let's be realistic about what we have here. We are horny and want sex. We go to Tijuana because it is supposed to be cheap and easy. The girls are there to make money. Does anyone out there believe that the girls are hanging out in dirty alleys or prostutute bars in cheap clothing in hopes of falling in love with a rich American? Would a girl want to fall in love with a guy hanging out in these bars? Just because theyspeak a fireign language does not make them all totally stupid.
So I want to respond to the poster that said he could not stomach the idea of picking up a girls that had been banging too many fat, balding sweaty guys. Just what does he think they do for a living? Do they get cleaner if he picks them up at a time when the bar is less crowded? They're prostitutes, man! I'm not knocking them- just saying that unless you are one of the rare dudes to get a novice, then guess what, you get a girl that has been with other guys.
Then I want to respond to the guys bitching about prices. Welcome to the real world of capitalism. If you don't like it, don't go. Frankly, I have never had the kind of problems that some of these guys are griping about. I do know that it often makes a difference when the girls are treated with sone kindness, at least it has worked for me. You are going to pay a bit more for the better lookers. Why? Because this is what they can get. If you say no, they'll get it from some other sucker. Girls more in demand get more money. These girls are in business. Are they supposed to charge you less because you're an American expecting cheap Mexican pussy? Get over it! There are tons of girls in Tijuana. If one charges too much, smile, say "no gracias", and move on.
You claim that these girls are getting too close to American prices? Fine, go back to the US. Pick up some cheap ***** on the street. Pray that she is not part of an LE sting. Do it in the back seat of a car, hoping LE does not catch you in the middle of the act. Pray she doesn't grab your money and run off, or pull a knife. Pray her pimp doesn't show up and demand your wallet. Or you can always overpay for an American hotel, hoping that she won't lead you into an LE sting, run out of the room with your money, lead you into a room with a couple of dudes ready to rob you. Then if none of the above happens to you, hope she doesn't pull on your sick for 5 minutes and then say it is time to go. A hundred other guys could pipe in now with their horror stories from hunting in America. For the time being, I'll stick with Tijuana. Most of the experiences I have had surpass most American experiences. No, they were not 100% satisfactory. But if I were a betting man, my money is on Tijuana for a satisfactory experience at cheap prices.[/QUOTE]
Well, yes, yes, no, yes and yes. Good post. There is a reality that mongers must wrap their mind around. The above points are very well stated. Let me add a snippit.
The girls and the clubs in the Zona know why you are there before you go. They know you have about between $200 and $300 and the game is to get it from you. You [b]might[/b] get laid in the process if you know what you're doing.
When you are there, you are playing [b]their[/b] game. It's not the other way around. Your (meaning any monger) trip report is merely a written record of how well or how poorly you did playing their game against them playing you.
Yes, perhaps a chica liked you enough to session you for less than you expected to pay but she still ended up with your money. You walked away with a session that 99% of the time was less than a GFE, sometimes lots less.
The entire block is designed to separate you from your money, kinda like Vegas. I know a lot of girls in the Zona. Some are very cool ladies, others I would not trust for a minute. Yes, they session for a living. They make money through [B]P R O S T I T U T I O N[/B]. But it is we who buy.
The girls don't hold your past against you, don't hold anything against them (except yourself of course).
Most working girls in the Zona already have husbands or BF's. IN some cases, the guys are watching over the girls as they work. A very small number are looking for Mr. Right. Many have as their immediate problem [B]MONEY[/B] which is why they are there although some actually enjoy their work.
If you're looking for a woman in the Zona then you want to visit one of the "locals" clubs. Plenty of girls there looking for Mr. Right. Plenty of girls all over Mexico looking for a gringo to save them. I could go on for hours about it.
I often negitiated my girls down after sessioning them at their asking price. Just make the session run well and be nice. They'll look for you and you'll find them willing to go for less if you treat them right (like human beings for example). Remember that one very large problem for the girls is that they have no idea who you are. They don;t know if you're safe to be alone with or not. Call it an occupational hazard if you like but girls have been murdered in the bed. So they are looking at you too.
Some go to the Zona for a fast glam slam and then they get the hell out of there. Others go to find a cool chica that they can snuggle up to and have a great session. Maybe even a TLN. They're out there and your attitude counts big-time.
If you're not into paying for sex then of course you should not concern yourself with any of this.
Couuntry John
To ask for anal I believe the question is "haces sexo anal?" or " cuanto seria por sexo anal? "
That should do the trick. I would not being with that question. Remember, this is not a common practice with most ladies so it may cost quite a bit more.
CJ,
Can you suggest some safe clubs for "local" freebies to be had?
Gropinator:
Along the Revolucion street there are many bars. Most of them are for tourist but at the south end of the Revolucion (west side) there is a club called "Las Pulgas". It is the place where locals go. There are different areas where different music is played. For local girls, "Las Pulgas" is the place. If you get as far as the Jai Alai you went too far. It is approx 1/2 a block north and across the street from the Jai-Alai
Good luck and happy huntings....
There is a brand new clean hotel with cable and a little kitchenette, $38 a night single or double, covered guarded parking, a block from Adelitas/Chicago. It is on Coahuila, the same street as Adelita Bar, on the next block, across from the Tropa Bar. Visitor friendly, highly recommend.
Hotel Hacienda de Santiago
Coahuila 8168
Tel. 685-4646, 685-7598, or 685-6386
Man TJ is sucking! I know it is Tuesday but I have been on a Tuesday, even a Monday, where it was 10x better! Hit HK first and there were about 15 girls working, 5 which were even worthy of payment. I mean 3 were 7s and 8s but I wouldn't do 10 of these girls for free in the US, don't want to sound mean but maybe they just weren't my type? I also noticed as I was sitting by the main stage that 5 of 6 girls who danced while I was there had C-sections, is this a common practice in Mexico? Well I met some gringo and hung out which was sadly the funnest part of HK LOL, and I'm not a homo either :) We just chilled and had some beers, he was a full newbie so it was funny watching him react. We ended up walking over to AB, the streets were empty, and even AB was bad! I was telling this guy how many great looking girls were there and when we walked in I was amazed to see so few. In fact there were just not many girls and probably a 2-1 guy to girl ratio which was very noticable. He picked up some girl but I wasn't impressed so I walked back to HK before I was going home. I found one of the girls I had done before and she was fun so I figured I would see how much fun I could have. Needless to say it was horrible! She was kind of lit up, seemed almost like she was high on something, so was basically half awake. I like her as a person but I won't session with her again, in fact I am not sure whats up with TJ anymore because it seems to get worse by the day. Oh well I may try again and then if it is just bad I'm not wasting the money, although I may try one of the escorts down there and see if they are good. It sucks though because I do like TJ in terms of decent rates and some hot girls but maybe it isn't my game as much as others. Plus I am going to Brazil soon and those are the girls I really dream about :) best save my money for my fun lol.
Take care!
Cali
Best place to grope strippers would have to be Peanuts. I go there on Fridays and Saturdays and see one named Fierrari. She may still be there, just ask the guys out front. On the stage, she literally let you DATY her if you put a dollar in your mouth and lay on stage. In private, there is nothing she won't do.
[QUOTE=Country John]Just come right out with it to the girl. Business is business. It will bear a premuim to the standard cost. Some guys have paid $20. to $30 extra. Not all girls will go for it, but you won't have to have very many interviews to find one who will. Be patient and talk to the girls. If the girl you're talking to comes back "no" then ask her who will go.
Hong Kong Bar.
I can only speculate, but probably they want a ride on top of busting a nut. Besides it's fun.
Now go have some and post!! Good luck!
Country John[/QUOTE]
I was so hoping to meet Guadalupe on my recent visit to Tijuana. There has been so many wonderful reports on this young woman, and I have been so impressed by what you have all written, that I feel it is a pity that I shall not have the opportunity of spending some quality time with this legendary sex provider before leaving for the dark continent. Pity, yes.
I understand Guadalupe vacations on the sunny coast of Central Mexico; Jalisco, I believe, in that sleepy fishing village of Acapulco. Hmmm, now I wonder if this is a working vacation, or does she rest, relax, and revitalize herself for the coming year of hard work -yes, it's hard work- bach on the streets of Zona Norte. Sad, I should be leaving without 'getting lucky' with Lupe. For as we all know by now, I'm Lucky, Lucky Manuelo.
Cheers, all.
P.S. T, Baja, Rocket, Wasabi, Fargo, Felix the Car, all my love, never change. Sometimes all we have left is the shadow of her smile.
I was so hoping to meet Guadalupe on my recent visit to Tijuana. There has been so many wonderful reports on this young woman, and I have been so impressed by what you have all written, that I feel it is a pity that I shall not have the opportunity of spending some quality time with this legendary sex provider before leaving for the dark continent. Pity, yes.
I understand Guadalupe vacations on the sunny coast of Central Mexico; Jalisco, I believe, in that sleepy fishing village of Acapulco. Hmmm, now I wonder if this is a working vacation, or does she rest, relax, and revitalize herself for the coming year of hard work -yes, it's hard work- bach on the streets of Zona Norte. Sad, I should be leaving without 'getting lucky' with Lupe. For as we all know by now, I'm Lucky, Lucky Manuelo.
Cheers, all.
P.S. T, Baja, Rocket, Wasabi, Fargo, Felix the Car, all my love, never change. Sometimes all we have left is the shadow of her smile.
So I just got in town for the first time and went across the boarder. I jumped in a cab and asked him to take me to the local places. He takes me to Purple Rain first, hot girls about 12 to choose from but they wanted $85 for FS. I don't know but in Texas that's a lot of money.
I ask him to take me to another place and he takes me to some spa with like 4 girls, not my taste at all. Maybe i'm spoiled but i'm use to Boy's Towns like in Laredo where you drive into a huge compound and the only thing you can see is women all over the place.
Is there anything like that in TJ or i'm I just lost. Are there any places where there are just women all over the place and brothels right next to each other?
Please help, I need to jump over there tonight.
Purple Rain and other massage places give cabbies a cut on every customer they bring in.
Other people may like those places, but I sure don't. Im am Adelitas monger, there's plenty of choices. Ya you may not get your GFE there, but the whole point is having fun and bustin that nut.
Mondays are kinda slow in most places, but if you gotta go somewhere, its adelitas at night for a Monday nite.
TEXAS go directly to Adelitas, $5 cab ride from the border.
Just say ADELITAS to the taxi guy, and don't let him talk you into anywhere else.
[quote=california guy]i also noticed as i was sitting by the main stage that 5 of 6 girls who danced while i was there had c-sections, is this a common practice in mexico? [/quote]cesarean sections (c-section) are very common in mexico. mexicos rate for c-sections is the highest in the world, and within some states its as high as 68% (queretaro ). it is especially prevalent amongst working girls. you can cover up a c-section scar, but there is very little you can do about loose pussy. plus it lets them get back to work faster.
tj is a little down still from the holidays, but it is getting back to full speed pretty quickly. hk was the best i had seen it in some time this past thursday. ab will continue to suck for another couple weeks, or until the construction gets completed.
Once you get to Adelitas there are a few of spots to look in on. One is the Chicago, the other is the Tropical which is just across the street from Adelitas, and you may want to walk around to the alley just behind Adelitas where you will find the street girls all standing outside, the Hong Kong strip club is also back there.
The street girls in the area are a bargain at $20. Be sure to mention all that you want to take place in the room to the best of your ability. It is likely that you will pay closer to $30 once they add in for a change of position or a full nude session. If you just want straight missionary - $20.
Be carefull not to get involved with the English speaking hustlers down there. I am not speaking of mongers that you may meet in one of the clubs. I am speaking of the street types that are out to sell you services that are free. A good example is, sometimes there are guys standing around that want to be the go between when you are attempting to speak to the street chicks. I would stay away from the massage parlors, and the solicitors that try to take you to the massage parlors also.
Anyways, I am sure that you can handle yourself just fine.
Stick and move. Have a good time.
D
I know that the border towns in Texas are very dangerous right now. How safe is it to walk around in a dark alley behind a building to fing SW?
I am going to venture out tomorrow night and see what I can find.
Why does no one talk about Purple Rain? I went into it, is very expensive but the girls seems nice. just wondering.
[QUOTE=Double] I would stay away from the massage parlors, and the solicitors that try to take you to the massage parlors also.
D[/QUOTE]I agree with Double. The massage parlors in TJ are not worth what you are paying for. You end up paying 100 to 150 dollars for the same service you get for 60 dollars in Adelitas. The girls in Purple Rain do not know how to massage and too lazy to do it for you, even their FS skills are not that great. I did a couple of them and decided never to go back again. They might look nice downstairs but once you are up there with them, they are hard negotiators to get you pay 120 dollars. That is already 160 dollars with the 40 up front.
Stay away from Purple Rain! And do not walk back to Adelitas from Purple Rain at night, that street is dangerous. A lot of drug dealers and even worse, he Policia. I got shaken down by the policia once.
I really enjoy a good massage before any actions, anyone knows any good massage places in TJ or San Diego? Truly appreciate it if you can give me some info. Country John once mentioned Mermaid in TJ, I have not been able to find it yet.
Stay safe. I also would like to meet some fellow hobbists if you are interested. Security in numbers!
VC
Sometimes you feel like a nut, And then other times you just get your nut.Monday nite hit TJ with a clear purpose, quickly bag some sweet young thing and haul ass home,Mission accomplished! Todo des nuda,boca con condon y mish.20por chica 4 cabs each way 3tacos 5 for the room. I guess that adds up to $36.00 You really do get your best value sun through thursdays.Oh yeah and did I mention that she was a 22 year old hard body that really enjoyed her work!
Check out the Photo Gallery thread for TJ. On the 1st page Bad4URHeart has two maps of Zona Norte. Shows most of the bars, areas where the street girls mostly hang out, a few restaurants and where the transvestites are so you don't wander in by mistake - unless you're into that. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Texasrob2005]I know that the border towns in Texas are very dangerous right now. How safe is it to walk around in a dark alley behind a building to fing SW?
I am going to venture out tomorrow night and see what I can find.
Why does no one talk about Purple Rain? I went into it, is very expensive but the girls seems nice. just wondering.[/QUOTE]Tijuana is relatively safe if you stay on the beaten path. That path would be Calle Coahuila between Ninos Heros and Constitucion (the street that Adelitas is on), Constitucion between Articulo 123 and Calle Coahuila (and a little bit far north to Chicago Club), and Callejon Coahuila (the alley). I posted a map in December 2005 if you need to see the streets in context.
Anywhere else in the zona and you increase your risk. I have never had any problems (other than the rare policia run-ins, all uneventful) and I venture out much futher than mentioned above.
If you are a more cautious person then I am, then don't go anywhere that is not well lit, or where you don't see many other Americanos.
[QUOTE=Village Chief]I really enjoy a good massage before any actions, anyone knows any good massage places in TJ or San Diego? Truly appreciate it if you can give me some info. Country John once mentioned Mermaid in TJ, I have not been able to find it yet.[/QUOTE]I am assuming you mean legit massage. If not, then I made a post earlier this month that points out some of the better "extras" massage parlors in the zona.
For legit massage there are two really good choices.
1. Aztec Massage
On 2nd street, just south of the Tijuana Arch on 2nd street. 100 paces West of Revolucion.
2. VivaMex Day Spa
On Revolucion, between 3rd and 4th street
[url]http://www.vivamexspa.com/indexxx.html[/url]
Both are less than a half mile away from the Zona Norte. IIRC, a 1hr massage is in the $35 range, and has always been very good for me. These places are legit, and offer no extras.
The reason that nobody speaks about the Purple Rain is because you can get better quality ladies for less at Adelitas, Chicago, Tropical, and in the alley. The one square block around Adelitas is fairly safe.
Yes, you can walk in the alley with few problems.
The alley is not dark, it is well lit, and there are normally lots of other American mongers, and people wandering around also. As was mentioned by another of the previous posters, the police, and the drug dealers are to be avoided. You will be able to see the people to avoid.
Just a heads up, if you see a patty wagon parked or on the move go inside one of the clubs and have a drink. The boys with a badge are normally doing their shake downs when you see the van out on the move. Also, you may not posses Viagra without a perscription from a Mexican doctor, so if you buy some, make sure that you take it before leaving the pharmacia.
D
I hopped a cab back to the border the other night and there were two young cops waiting right at the taxi drop off. They were both very polite, cordial, and spoke good english (continued to speak english even after I answered all their questions in spanish). They asked me to empty my pockets of everything and one of them patted me down. I had my left over cash in my front pocket, took it out, stacked it with my wallet and car keys on top of a garbage can and neither one touched it or asked for any of it. It seems they may be feeling the heat from the gov't for fucking with tourists. I think they were looking for prescription drugs so if you're going to be a dumbass and try to get some out of TJ, best put it in your shoe.
So I must tell everyone in this forum thank you for helping a guy out from Texas. I just got back a few hours ago from TJ, Aditats. And all I can say is WOW! I walk in and it's PACKED, there are probably about 40 girls in there.
I buy about three girls drinks to figure out who I want to take up, great move on my part because you can tell alot from just talking for a few min's. So the third girl I talk up is the one I get it with. I forgot her name but all I can say is WOW. He is about 5-10, wears some really crazy stuff, has a tribal tattoo on her right shoulder, pierced tongue, blonde hair extensoins, WILD AS SHIT. She right off the bat tells me $50 and I don't try to push it down.
We go up to the room, this girl got REALLY WET. I'm thinking that she must have put some water up inside herself and let it go. I've heard about a lot of girls pulling these kinds of tricks to make the guy think he's just gotten her SO wet. Before she even started I felt a big wet spot on the bed. Either way it was nice. She has big ass REAL tit's, she's a little thick but not bad at all. I was a little worried about getting one of hte REALLT hot girls because sometimes their service is not as good because they know they are really hot.
Either way, tonight was my last night and I sure do hope I would have found this place my first night in San Diego. Either way, I'm coming back if it's just to come check this place out again. I've been all over the world and I must say this was UN REAL! You all here have a true gem.
[QUOTE=Double]The reason that nobody speaks about the Purple Rain is because you can get better quality ladies for less at Adelitas, Chicago, Tropical, and in the alley. The one square block around Adelitas is fairly safe.
Yes, you can walk in the alley with few problems.
The alley is not dark, it is well lit, and there are normally lots of other American mongers, and people wandering around also. As was mentioned by another of the previous posters, the police, and the drug dealers are to be avoided. You will be able to see the people to avoid.
Just a heads up, if you see a patty wagon parked or on the move go inside one of the clubs and have a drink. The boys with a badge are normally doing their shake downs when you see the van out on the move. Also, you may not posses Viagra without a perscription from a Mexican doctor, so if you buy some, make sure that you take it before leaving the pharmacia.
D[/QUOTE]
It is not illegal to possess medication to treat erectile dysfunction without a prescription in Mexico. Viagra is NOT ON THE LIST OF CONTROLLED MEDICATIONS in Mexico. The cops have no legal right to hassle you. It is a problem bringing it back to the USA without a prescription.
All too often unwary gringos are heated up because they have medication for the treatment of erectile dysfunction. They had over the meds and pay a "fine" to the cop (mordita). It is not necessary to do this my friends. So stop doing it. And stop worrying about it.
The raids are to round up the rateros in the street. The druggies and robbers and criminals. The bad girls and boys who rip mongers off etc. The raids are not designed to get the gringos. Quite the contrary. If you are trolling the Zona and are MOVING ALONG you will not get stopped unless you dress like a gangster and behave like an asshole.
The Zona is there for YOU. Enjoy but don't be stoopid and don't be intimidated because you have medication for the treatment of erectile dysfunction, a substance that IS NOT ON THE LIST OF CONTROLLED MEDICATIONS in Mexico, and for which a prescription is NOT REQUIRED
under Mexican Law. I will post the approptiate link as an edit to theis post.
Be safe and Be Nice.
Country John
Here is where you will find the complete list of Controlled Medications in Mexico:
[url]http://www.cofepris.gob.mx/pyp/estpsic/es.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Maltrufio]I hopped a cab back to the border the other night and there were two young cops waiting right at the taxi drop off. They were both very polite, cordial, and spoke good english (continued to speak english even after I answered all their questions in spanish). They asked me to empty my pockets of everything and one of them patted me down. I had my left over cash in my front pocket, took it out, stacked it with my wallet and car keys on top of a garbage can and neither one touched it or asked for any of it. It seems they may be feeling the heat from the gov't for fucking with tourists. I think they were looking for prescription drugs so if you're going to be a dumbass and try to get some out of TJ, best put it in your shoe.[/QUOTE]When the cops patted me down, they searched inside my shoes, inside every pocket and in the crevices of my wallet, which is where I had a Viagra pill. So there is no safe place to hide it from them except for maybe your crotch.
[QUOTE=Nevermore]When the cops patted me down, they searched inside my shoes, inside every pocket and in the crevices of my wallet, which is where I had a Viagra pill. So there is no safe place to hide it from them except for maybe your crotch.[/QUOTE]
Look down a few posts and READ. You do not have to HIDE viagra from Mexican police.
Country John
i must respectfully disagree with you on the matter of police activity. i think that ideally the police are out to get the bad guys, however in tj i have personally had drugs planted on me by the police, and an accomplice. i have had them search me on 3 different occasions for no reason, just speed up in the van and yell hey you. i do not drink, i have never been in a fight, i am respectfull-this considering that i am mongering, i keep a low profile, and i don't dress like a "gangster". i am an average looking clean cut guy.
mexican police use there position to make money. they make a large piece of their salaries by extorting it from tourist. yes, one can say "no", and insist on seeing a judge, but how often does that actually work. in addition, in the case of the police all of a sudden finding drugs at your feet on the ground, what is the watch command going to say? are they just going to side with the tourist? i am not the only one that has been in this situation in tj. they are all in it together. i do not believe there is an honest cop in the whole city, especially in the zona. corruption in mexico is a way of life.
any tourist that feels that they are above or beyond the possibility of police harassment in tj must be very well connected in tj. if you are not, then the likelihood of you being in the possession of any sort of drug, be it beyer aspirin or any other kind of drug and not encountering some sort of problem is slim.
any monger that reads this board should error on the side of caution in mexico, do not be a cowboy, it is not your range.
[QUOTE=Village Chief]Country John once mentioned Mermaid in TJ, I have not been able to find it yet.
VC[/QUOTE]Just FYI, Mermaids Bar / Message Parlor is dirctly across from Las Chavelas and Adelita Bar.
(As CJ mentioned here: [url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=423742#post423742[/url] )
Here's a photo.
Had a couple drinks here and watched the floor sho, but never took a girl for message / sex.
Mike
[quote=double]i must respectfully disagree with you on the matter of police activity. i think that ideally the police are out to get the bad guys, however in tj i have personally had drugs planted on me by the police, and an accomplice. i have had them search me on 3 different occasions for no reason, just speed up in the van and yell hey you. i do not drink, i have never been in a fight, i am respectfull-this considering that i am mongering, i keep a low profile, and i don't dress like a "gangster". i am an average looking clean cut guy.
mexican police use there position to make money. they make a large piece of their salaries by extorting it from tourist. yes, one can say "no", and insist on seeing a judge, but how often does that actually work. in addition, in the case of the police all of a sudden finding drugs at your feet on the ground, what is the watch command going to say? are they just going to side with the tourist? i am not the only one that has been in this situation in tj. they are all in it together. i do not believe there is an honest cop in the whole city, especially in the zona. corruption in mexico is a way of life.
any tourist that feels that they are above or beyond the possibility of police harassment in tj must be very well connected in tj. if you are not, then the likelihood of you being in the possession of any sort of drug, be it beyer aspirin or any other kind of drug and not encountering some sort of problem is slim.
any monger that reads this board should error on the side of caution in mexico, do not be a cowboy, it is not your range.[/quote]
yes, police corruption is a problem. i've stood my ground many times and won. the cops know they are taking a chance, some are more convincing than others but they are all wrong and if you have the time you can handle the problem. that's my own personal experience, yours might be different. i understand. i learned a lot sincei moved here.
perhaps if you have a few positive experiences you'll know what i mean. in the meantime you are right to err on the side of caution but you should never pay.
country john
Was supposed to head to TJ today with a friend but something came up and he is a no show.
Was really looking forward to my first time there and just curious as to safety, etc on a solo trip. Would I be better off making arangements with one of the services? I am still up for the day trip.
Appreciate any thoughts.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Mike 123]Just FYI, Mermaids Bar / Message Parlor is dirctly across from Las Chavelas and Adelita Bar.
(As CJ mentioned here: [url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=423742#post423742[/url] )
Here's a photo.
Had a couple drinks here and watched the floor sho, but never took a girl for message / sex.
Mike[/QUOTE]I was in TJ Friday and went to Mermaids after I left Adelitas dissapointed at the quality that was there. No one really tempting enough. Mermaids has some OK girls with 1 or 2 girls being the best. The waiter told me that you can have FS with them for at least $100. More than Adelitas but Adelitas has more to select from. Has anyone paid this much at Mermaids? I dont understand why they are asking for this much when they are competing with Adelitas whi is a giant in the Zona.
[QUOTE=Biggfeller]Was supposed to head to TJ today with a friend but something came up and he is a no show.
Was really looking forward to my first time there and just curious as to safety, etc on a solo trip. Would I be better off making arangements with one of the services? I am still up for the day trip.
Appreciate any thoughts.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
My advice is to go during the day if you are going solo and are making your first run.
My girl and I were talking about helping out noobies on their first run in exchange for our drinks, but we never got to the other side of it.
If you go with someone experienced then nite time is cool. If you insist on going alone, take a taxi from the border and back afterwards but don;t have anything illegal on you because the cops might search you if you return late and get dropped off where they congregate. No need to be paranoid but there is every reason to be smart and be safe.
The other thing you must do is read Brockton O'tools guide. It is [B]REQUIRED READING[/B] especially for first timers.
Country John
[QUOTE=Pico1972]I was in TJ Friday and went to Mermaids after I left Adelitas dissapointed at the quality that was there. No one really tempting enough. Mermaids has some OK girls with 1 or 2 girls being the best. The waiter told me that you can have FS with them for at least $100. More than Adelitas but Adelitas has more to select from. Has anyone paid this much at Mermaids? I dont understand why they are asking for this much when they are competing with Adelitas whi is a giant in the Zona.[/QUOTE]
The simple answer is at Mermaids you get 1 hour with the girl. At Adelitas you only get 30 minutes for your $60 + $11.
The quote from most "extras" massages places will be $40 for the hour, plus $100-$120 for the girl. You can usually get the girls down to $80-$100. Some places will offer a package deal of $100-$120 for everything, but then they try to limit the time or the girl may limit your activities.
On non-peak days you can usually get a better deal at Adelitas or Chicago Club. I have had 1 hour sessions for $80 + $22 for the room.
[QUOTE=Mike 123]Just FYI, Mermaids Bar / Message Parlor is directly across from Las Chavelas and Adelita Bar.
Here's a photo.
Mike[/QUOTE][b]Sorry,[/b] just noticed my photos didn't post. Here are the photos.
just got back from tj. bar rio verde is currently closed.
there's police tape all over the entrance. a sign posted says that everyone has gone to azteca bar. a security guard was standing outside on sunday afternoon referring folks to azteca. he wouldn't say what the problem was.
a street girl i know well says that they got caught with **** girls. this is just gossip, but could be true.
also could be that the kick-backs were a little too slow. i've seen several bars briefly closed like this before.
[quote=mike 123]just got back from tj. bar rio verde is currently closed.
there's police tape all over the entrance. a sign posted says that everyone has gone to azteca bar. a security guard was standing outside on sunday afternoon referring folks to azteca. he wouldn't say what the problem was.
a street girl i know well says that they got caught with **** girls. this is just gossip, but could be true.
also could be that the kick-backs were a little too slow. i've seen several bars briefly closed like this before.[/quote]
the place was shut down by the usa equivalent of the "department of social services and child welfare" etc. it was for allowing **** girls to work there. apparently pepe was warned about this in the past but ignored it. he might have trouble ignoring the days off and lost income. thank your lucky stars you didn't get hooked by an **** girl.
country john
Just off the main drag we found a club called Purple Rain. Only about 10 - 12 girls working but I would rate more than half 7-8+. The place is quiet, no crowds no rush!
[QUOTE=Country John]Look down a few posts and READ. You do not have to HIDE viagra from Mexican police.
Country John[/QUOTE]I read it, but discounted it. Sorry, but I don't believe it. If it were true, then everyone would be running around down there popping Viagra in the open. There have been dozens of posts of guys getting popped by the TJ cops for possessing it. According to you, one would go free if hauled before the judge down there for possessing a Viagra pill without a prescription. If a prescription is NOT required, then WHY do they write prescriptions for them down there?
Donde esta Azteca?
Esta seguro?
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[QUOTE=Adventur]Donde esta Azteca?
Esta seguro?[/QUOTE]
Look at post #603 (19 post ago).
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=430227&postcount=603[/url]
It is relatively safe since it is right off of Revolucion.
[QUOTE=Nevermore]I read it, but discounted it. Sorry, but I don't believe it. If it were true, then everyone would be running around down there popping Viagra in the open. There have been dozens of posts of guys getting popped by the TJ cops for possessing it. According to you, one would go free if hauled before the judge down there for possessing a Viagra pill without a prescription. If a prescription is NOT required, then WHY do they write prescriptions for them down there?[/QUOTE]
Because doctors will write a prescription for vitamin "A" if someone is stoopid enough to ask for it.
Viagra is NOT on the list of controlled meds or controlled/prohibited substances in Mexico. That's not according to Country John, that's according the the Mexican Government, I'm simply posting for your information, it is they who you do not believe, not me.
If the Mexican Government states that [b]no prescription is necessary to possess any substance used for the treatment of erectile dysfunction[/b], then I guess they're wrong. What they [u]really[/u] mean then is that a prescription is necessary. If the prescription IS required, then why are the drug store operators not in jail for dispensing without a prescription?
I don't use the stuff personally but I did research it because it's a hot topic. If you get hauled before a magistrate, ask him or her why you are charged with a crime that does not exist. Again, that's according to Mexican Law. I'm not blowing smoke here.
Country John
In defense of Country John, I don't think he is saying you should be popping pills as you walk down the street :) lol you would be a fool to do this with candy knowing you can get busted for no reason. However if you are arrested for taking some Viagra in a pharmacia then you can protest to a judge considering their laws, of course that is if you arrested for that specific reason.
[b]okay, let me just say it: i'm going to be fiche fucked here. this is a classic example of how it happens. enjoy.[/b]
i went down to tj on superbowl sunday and eventually landed in valentina bar in the alley. valentina bar is, i believe, owned by adelita bar. it is a less successful version of miami bar. that is, it is aimed mostly at locals and offers chicas for dollar dances with occasional strip shows. there is a hotel next door, used by both bar girls and the valentina street hookers. i enter and order a bohemia beer and they deliver two for 30 pesos. i give a 10 peso tip.
there is a homely white blonde stripping on the dance floor. nice breasts but flabby everywhere else. she starts making the rounds for dollar tips. for a dollar you can pretty much touch or kiss her anywhere. after her, a young brunette with black thigh-high stockings and four-inch heels starts her dance. now we're talking. she's pretty, a bit thick, but not fat. her firm, toned body is nice. i really like her wide face, big eyes, and pouty lips. she looks to be about 20. yes, this will likely be the one i want. she has my full attention and i hold up a dollar while she's making the rounds and get a chance at feeling her smooth, perfect skin.
after she's done she goes back to the dressing room. a short, fat, older brunette starts to strip dance. this only confirms that the young brunette is the right choice for me. after a couple minutes, my girl climbs into a shower stage in the back that i never noticed before. i finish my first beer and start the second. she finishes her shower and takes forever to come out. when she does come out, she lays down on a bench seat next to the stage turning her full attention to her damn cell phone. my eyes are locked on her but she never looks up. after about ten minutes, i ask a passing masero to fetch her for me. she's kind of surprised, but comes over willing, sits next to me, and i give the nod for fiche #1. the game is on.
60 pesos for the fiche and a 10 peso tip. but now my second beer is empty and i order another. her name is cristal, sure it is. we quickly establish that she knows no english. perfect. i know only a few phrases and maybe a rep001tered hundred words maximum. i really haven't found this to be a problem. i plan to do lots of touching and very little talking anyway. i wrap my arms around her and pay for my next 2-for-1 bohemia. a couple sips later and we order fiche #2.
a well-endowed stripper makes her rounds and my girl says her own breasts are too little. i assure her that they are just perfect. she pulls them out and i confirm my evaluation with a more careful examination. recall that cristal is fresh out of the shower. she smells great and feel even better. i try to rub her belly, but her oversized belt is in the way. no problem, she immediately removes it. she pulls her top all the way down and orders fiche #3. she works on making a paper rose out of a napkin, i work on making her nipples hard.
we caress each other and i massage her neck and shoulders as she turns sideways to relax into my body. this is great. fiche #4 is ordered and promptly delivered. she briefly pulls her bikini bottom away to show me her fuzz. they start playing a slow song and we get up to dance along with a few other couples. she kicks off her shoes making her a couple inches shorter than me. perfect. she snuggles into me as we slow dance. back to the table and its time for fiche #5. she pulls out her bikini bottom and i slip my hand onto her pussy. we start deep french kissing and i order myself another beer. she finishes her beer, pours some of my beer into her glass and gulps it. more kissing, petting, dancing and now i'm not sure what fiche we're on but i ask her to go to the hotel. she's delighted and heads off to the baño. meanwhile, the masero shows up with a bucket of five more fiches.
there's no fucking way i'm going to buy a bucket of beer at 60 pesos a bottle. the masero says it is required if i want to take this girl to the hotel. i tell him to leave one beer and no more. cristal returns and the masero says something to her. cristal gulps the remaining bottle and i tell her no mas crevaze and vamos hotel. as we approach the exit, several maseros are stop her argue about the bucket of beers. i have no intention of arguing and continue walking toward the exit. she says something like she's a puta working for money. i walk outside, she catches up to me and we get a room for a half hour.
really, i've had too much to drink at this point. we settle into the room, she undresses and we spend lots of time dfk. she's young and beautiful and i'm happy as can be. we explore each other and eventually she pushes my head down between her spread legs. the more she wiggles and moans, the more effort put into the task at hand.
before i know it, the knock comes. i haven't even had my chance yet. i ask her for more time. she says i have to buy five more damn beers for more time. no fucking way. i pay her 500 pesos and leave.
[b]i knew better, but still: fiche fucked.[/b]
[QUOTE=Country John]Because doctors will write a prescription for vitamin "A" if someone is stoopid enough to ask for it.
Viagra is NOT on the list of controlled meds or controlled/prohibited substances in Mexico. That's not according to Country John, that's according the the Mexican Government, I'm simply posting for your information, it is they who you do not believe, not me.
If the Mexican Government states that [b]no prescription is necessary to possess any substance used for the treatment of erectile dysfunction[/b], then I guess they're wrong. What they [u]really[/u] mean then is that a prescription is necessary. If the prescription IS required, then why are the drug store operators not in jail for dispensing without a prescription?
I don't use the stuff personally but I did research it because it's a hot topic. If you get hauled before a magistrate, ask him or her why you are charged with a crime that does not exist. Again, that's according to Mexican Law. I'm not blowing smoke here.
Country John[/QUOTE]With all due respect, I just think you don't have all of the facts. The following is from a post that I'm more inclined to believe:
The letter of Mexican law requires a Rx from a Mexican physician to buy Vigara, Cialis and Levitra (V/C/L) as they are category IV prescription medications. (Cialis's registration number, for example, is 181M2002 SSA IV.) Granted the law is seldom enforced (unless one is a tourist) and that even pharmacists will tell you a Rx isn't needed. (Which is partly true: they don't need a Rx to sell V/C/L to you.)
I have heard many people debate the question whether an Rx is need to buy medication in Mexico. The Mexican government provides the following on-line information that all (who speak Spanish) can review.
[url]http://www.salud.gob.mx/unidades/cdi/nom/072ssa13.html[/url]
NORMA Oficial Mexicana NOM-072-SSA1-1993, Etiquetado de medicamentos.
5.11.1 En la etiqueta de los medicamentos, se deberá expresar la clave de registro sanitario, tal como se indica en el oficio de registro, seguida del número romano de la fracción que corresponda a los medicamentos, ambos con la misma tipografía y tamaño, y de acuerdo a la siguiente clasificación:
I. Medicamentos que sólo pueden adquirirse con receta o permiso especial, expedido por la Secretaría de Salud;
II. Medicamentos que requieren para su adquisición receta médica que deberá retenerse en la farmacia que la surta y ser registrada en los libros de control que al efecto se lleven;
III. Medicamentos que sólo puedan adquirirse con receta médica que se podrá surtir hasta tres veces;
IV. Medicamentos que para adquirirse requieren receta médica, pero que pueden resurtirse tantas veces como lo indique el médico que lo prescriba;
V. Medicamentos sin receta, autorizados para su venta exclusivamente en farmacias, y
VI. Medicamentos que para adquirirse no requieren receta médica y que puedan expenderse en otros establecimientos que no sean farmacias.
Medications fall into one of several categories (or schedules):
Category I medications may only be taken with permission of the Secretary of Health. Usually they are experimental drugs.
Category II drugs require the pharmacy to keep records on who bought the medication. They will probably keep your Rx and you will need a new Rx each time you visit the pharmacy.
Category III medications are limited to three refills. Obviously records should be kept by the pharmacy.
Category IV medications require an Rx from a Mexican physician. However, the pharmacy is not required to keep records about who bought the medication.
Category V medications do not require an Rx. They can only be sold in a pharmacy.
Category VI medications do not require an Rx. Their sale in not restricted to a pharmacy (think of something like Aspirin sold in grocery stores).
In many Latin American countries so many people lack money to visit physicians that pharmacists often provide medical care. Hence laws requiring a person to have an Rx are seldom enforced. The pharmacy may even tell you that you don't need an Rx for Category IV--> medication. However, the law is on the books and an "enterprising cop" can use it to extort money.
Most prescription medications--including Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra--are Category IV medication. (Cialis's registration number, for example, is 181M2002 SSA IV.) The regulation above says these medications require a prescription from a Mexican physician and that it can be refilled as many times as the doctor indicates. Since record keeping by the pharmacy is not required for Category IV medications many people and pharmacies say an Rx is not required. While this is correct in practice, it is not correct legally.
hate to say it dude, that was fuched!
i had a dancer gf there for about a year and never had that happen. if anything you pay a bar fee. usually about 20 bucks for tln. i cant believe that happened. i tell you what i will go there this holiday weekend and see what happens. does crystal work days or nights?
[quote=mike 123][b]okay, let me just say it: i'm going to be fiche fucked here. this is a classic example of how it happens. enjoy.[/b]
i went down to tj on superbowl sunday and eventually landed in valentina bar in the alley. valentina bar is, i believe, owned by adelita bar. it is a less successful version of miami bar. that is, it is aimed mostly at locals and offers chicas for dollar dances with occasional strip shows. there is a hotel next door, used by both bar girls and the valentina street hookers. i enter and order a bohemia beer and they deliver two for 30 pesos. i give a 10 peso tip.
there is a homely white blonde stripping on the dance floor. nice breasts but flabby everywhere else. she starts making the rounds for dollar tips. for a dollar you can pretty much touch or kiss her anywhere. after her, a young brunette with black thigh-high stockings and four-inch heels starts her dance. now we're talking. she's pretty, a bit thick, but not fat. her firm, toned body is nice. i really like her wide face, big eyes, and pouty lips. she looks to be about 20. yes, this will likely be the one i want. she has my full attention and i hold up a dollar while she's making the rounds and get a chance at feeling her smooth, perfect skin.
after she's done she goes back to the dressing room. a short, fat, older brunette starts to strip dance. this only confirms that the young brunette is the right choice for me. after a couple minutes, my girl climbs into a shower stage in the back that i never noticed before. i finish my first beer and start the second. she finishes her shower and takes forever to come out. when she does come out, she lays down on a bench seat next to the stage turning her full attention to her damn cell phone. my eyes are locked on her but she never looks up. after about ten minutes, i ask a passing masero to fetch her for me. she's kind of surprised, but comes over willing, sits next to me, and i give the nod for fiche #1. the game is on.
60 pesos for the fiche and a 10 peso tip. but now my second beer is empty and i order another. her name is cristal, sure it is. we quickly establish that she knows no english. perfect. i know only a few phrases and maybe a rep001tered hundred words maximum. i really haven't found this to be a problem. i plan to do lots of touching and very little talking anyway. i wrap my arms around her and pay for my next 2-for-1 bohemia. a couple sips later and we order fiche #2.
a well-endowed stripper makes her rounds and my girl says her own breasts are too little. i assure her that they are just perfect. she pulls them out and i confirm my evaluation with a more careful examination. recall that cristal is fresh out of the shower. she smells great and feel even better. i try to rub her belly, but her oversized belt is in the way. no problem, she immediately removes it. she pulls her top all the way down and orders fiche #3. she works on making a paper rose out of a napkin, i work on making her nipples hard.
we caress each other and i massage her neck and shoulders as she turns sideways to relax into my body. this is great. fiche #4 is ordered and promptly delivered. she briefly pulls her bikini bottom away to show me her fuzz. they start playing a slow song and we get up to dance along with a few other couples. she kicks off her shoes making her a couple inches shorter than me. perfect. she snuggles into me as we slow dance. back to the table and its time for fiche #5. she pulls out her bikini bottom and i slip my hand onto her pussy. we start deep french kissing and i order myself another beer. she finishes her beer, pours some of my beer into her glass and gulps it. more kissing, petting, dancing and now i'm not sure what fiche we're on but i ask her to go to the hotel. she's delighted and heads off to the baño. meanwhile, the masero shows up with a bucket of five more fiches.
there's no fucking way i'm going to buy a bucket of beer at 60 pesos a bottle. the masero says it is required if i want to take this girl to the hotel. i tell him to leave one beer and no more. cristal returns and the masero says something to her. cristal gulps the remaining bottle and i tell her no mas crevaze and vamos hotel. as we approach the exit, several maseros are stop her argue about the bucket of beers. i have no intention of arguing and continue walking toward the exit. she says something like she's a puta working for money. i walk outside, she catches up to me and we get a room for a half hour.
really, i've had too much to drink at this point. we settle into the room, she undresses and we spend lots of time dfk. she's young and beautiful and i'm happy as can be. we explore each other and eventually she pushes my head down between her spread legs. the more she wiggles and moans, the more effort put into the task at hand.
before i know it, the knock comes. i haven't even had my chance yet. i ask her for more time. she says i have to buy five more damn beers for more time. no fucking way. i pay her 500 pesos and leave.
[b]i knew better, but still: fiche fucked.[/b][/quote]
thats too bad. i loved rio verde.
[quote=mike 123]just got back from tj. bar rio verde is currently closed.
there's police tape all over the entrance. a sign posted says that everyone has gone to azteca bar. a security guard was standing outside on sunday afternoon referring folks to azteca. he wouldn't say what the problem was.
a street girl i know well says that they got caught with **** girls. this is just gossip, but could be true.
also could be that the kick-backs were a little too slow. i've seen several bars briefly closed like this before.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Nevermore]With all due respect, I just think you don't have all of the facts. The following is from a post that I'm more inclined to believe:
The letter of Mexican law requires a Rx from a Mexican physician to buy Vigara, Cialis and Levitra (V/C/L) as they are category IV prescription medications. (Cialis's registration number, for example, is 181M2002 SSA IV.) Granted the law is seldom enforced (unless one is a tourist) and that even pharmacists will tell you a Rx isn't needed. (Which is partly true: they don't need a Rx to sell V/C/L to you.)
I have heard many people debate the question whether an Rx is need to buy medication in Mexico. The Mexican government provides the following on-line information that all (who speak Spanish) can review.
[url]http://www.salud.gob.mx/unidades/cdi/nom/072ssa13.html[/url]
NORMA Oficial Mexicana NOM-072-SSA1-1993, Etiquetado de medicamentos.
5.11.1 En la etiqueta de los medicamentos, se deberá expresar la clave de registro sanitario, tal como se indica en el oficio de registro, seguida del número romano de la fracción que corresponda a los medicamentos, ambos con la misma tipografía y tamaño, y de acuerdo a la siguiente clasificación:
I. Medicamentos que sólo pueden adquirirse con receta o permiso especial, expedido por la Secretaría de Salud;
II. Medicamentos que requieren para su adquisición receta médica que deberá retenerse en la farmacia que la surta y ser registrada en los libros de control que al efecto se lleven;
III. Medicamentos que sólo puedan adquirirse con receta médica que se podrá surtir hasta tres veces;
IV. Medicamentos que para adquirirse requieren receta médica, pero que pueden resurtirse tantas veces como lo indique el médico que lo prescriba;
V. Medicamentos sin receta, autorizados para su venta exclusivamente en farmacias, y
VI. Medicamentos que para adquirirse no requieren receta médica y que puedan expenderse en otros establecimientos que no sean farmacias.
Medications fall into one of several categories (or schedules):
Category I medications may only be taken with permission of the Secretary of Health. Usually they are experimental drugs.
Category II drugs require the pharmacy to keep records on who bought the medication. They will probably keep your Rx and you will need a new Rx each time you visit the pharmacy.
Category III medications are limited to three refills. Obviously records should be kept by the pharmacy.
Category IV medications require an Rx from a Mexican physician. However, the pharmacy is not required to keep records about who bought the medication.
Category V medications do not require an Rx. They can only be sold in a pharmacy.
Category VI medications do not require an Rx. Their sale in not restricted to a pharmacy (think of something like Aspirin sold in grocery stores).
In many Latin American countries so many people lack money to visit physicians that pharmacists often provide medical care. Hence laws requiring a person to have an Rx are seldom enforced. The pharmacy may even tell you that you don't need an Rx for Category IV--> medication. However, the law is on the books and an "enterprising cop" can use it to extort money.
Most prescription medications--including Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra--are Category IV medication. (Cialis's registration number, for example, is 181M2002 SSA IV.) The regulation above says these medications require a prescription from a Mexican physician and that it can be refilled as many times as the doctor indicates. Since record keeping by the pharmacy is not required for Category IV medications many people and pharmacies say an Rx is not required. While this is correct in practice, it is not correct legally.[/QUOTE]
I stand corrected. I appreciate you taking the time to post all this information. It will be very helpful in guiding mongers with repsect to the drug issues. Perhaps this should be reposted in the appropriate thread for reference.
Thanks.
Country John
[QUOTE=Bad4URHeart]Look at post #603 (19 post ago).
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=430227&postcount=603[/url]
It is relatively safe since it is right off of Revolucion.[/QUOTE]
You're confusing Azteca Bar with Aztec Massage the subject of post #603. Azteca Bar is on Revolucion between Articulo 123 (Calle Primera) and calle Coahuila. Aztec Massage is at the corner of Juarez ( Calle 2) and Revolucion. The entrance is on Juarez.
First, a comment about my last post. It may read a bit too seriously. It's intended to be informative for others and although I was upset at the moment I immediately shook it off and looked for more adventures that night. Except for the ending, it was a fun experience sitting with a beautiful young chica, both of us drinking too much beer, playing with her bare tits and exploring other areas of that fresh supple body. At one point she was squeezing limes all over her tits and having me lick up the juice while she sat there giggling. And I'll certainly never understand why she would allow me to DFK with her that way, but it certainly was delightful! In the hotel room I should have focused on myself instead of her.
I let it happen to myself. This is the way TJ is and I just take it in and move on. You can read the story and chuckle, or use it as advice to avoid such a situation, or just maybe try it yourself.
I have on a prior occasion taken a girl from Valentina without the bucket of beers bullshit.
Enough about that.
So after I left Valentina, I wandered down to the far end of the alley by almost to Niños de Heroes stopping at Cuartos Venecia to snag my friend Wendy and head back to Hotel Cascades. When we get settled into bed, I realize that she has a cold and isn't feeling well at all. I roll over to the other side of the bed and snooze for a while. She watches TV and then sleeps as well. Eventually her phone rings waking us, we dress, and I walk her back to Venecia.
I hike up Constitución and turn up Primera to see if there's anyone I want at El Fracaso. There isn't. Back down to the Alley and I stop to talk to Margarita. Margarita is very light if not outright pale. She is a beautiful, flaca (skinny), brunette. She has thick, bright red lips, penciled thin black eyebrows, skinny legs and with a micro-short skirt. She usually works out of Hotel Mini but is now standing in front Hotel Porton. She's from Mexico City and speaks okay English. We talk for a while. She is a lot of fun and more educated than most of the girls.
By now it's almost midnight. I buy a soda and walk down to Cascades where I see Areli. She stands outside Hotel Cascades, front and center six nights a week. (Anybody else know her?) Areli is a dark haired beauty that I've known for a couple of years. She has a round face and thin lips. Her hair is black, parted in the middle, and shorter than shoulder length. Tonight she is dressed like a school girl hooker. You know the outfit. She also has shiny black platform boots that rise to mid thigh. Hot as hell!
Let me say that every time I see her, Areli immediately has my heart and mind--sort of. I have tried time and again to pull her away from here for a night and have never been able. I've had her crying for me, she'll DFK, and let me do just about anything I want to her, but I can't break through that puta for money mind set she has. It's frustrating. So, again tonight I find myself wanting her and we go up to my room. We talk for a while, DFK, and pet for a long time and then have sex perrito and finish missionary. She is surprisingly strong all over and a fantastic lay. Her vagina muscle control is incredible. Yes, incredible. After we finish she reminds me once again that she would love to be my wife. We fall asleep holding each other and wake up after two in the morning. She wants to get back to work. Will one of you guys please marry her and take her away from here!
So, finally, I've had my first only nut of the night. Hurray!
Mike
[QUOTE=Country John]I stand corrected. I appreciate you taking the time to post all this information. It will be very helpful in guiding mongers with repsect to the drug issues. Perhaps this should be reposted in the appropriate thread for reference.
Thanks.
Country John[/QUOTE]I appreciate your graciousness Country John, but I can't take credit for the post since I copied it from Burt at another TJ FAQ forum you are familiar with. I'll gladly repost this where you think it is appropriate, or feel free to copy and paste it yourself. Anything to help the cause.
its across the street from adelita's. 40$ for an hour massage (no banging on the door to hurry) with a girl this $40 goes to house I would think. It costed me an extra $70(bargain with girl in room later) for sucky fucky all with condom of corse. Let me backup first of all downstairs there is a bar the girls can dance with the stripper pole and show their stuff maybe get 1$ tips. Then they ALL get called to do a lineup upstairs where the fun begins. There was about 15 girls to choose from (most avg looking but all young under 25 I would say). They are all dressed in school girl outfits with the ponytails. About 4 guys and me were waiting to hear their names. I shouted out my girls name as soon as she said her name. There is like a 3 second pause between each girl calling her name out. So I didn't want to take the chance of losing her to someother guy picking first. So I pick my girl who is a beautiful 18yr old perfect body real tits and not a mark (scars or stretchmarks) on her. She spoke NO english so this hurt my negotiations a little. She didn't even know what sucky fucky was. Sexo is what she kept saying. I had to point at my dick and then again at her mouth for her to understand suck, and fuck was just a couple thrusts. This girl I believe was semi new to the game. So after 20min weak massage she sucked me hard with condom. I hate that at least suck me hard without condom but again I couldn't comminicate that well. I never get real real hard with condom suck and that can be a bad start. So we fuck in all the positions I wanted. It hurt her and she too kept asking for different positions. She didn't have any lube but she was just wet enough. I would think these girls would lube everyone up for less damage to them especially if its hurting them for 20-40min of fucking. So I am doing her doggie style an now things are feeling real real good I look down at my dick woundering what the hell has suddenly made everything feel so dam good and all thats left of my condom is the bottom half or its broke and bunched down at the bottom. So I show her and she opens the door and says some spanish about me being to grande and she needs another condom. LOL I wish. So back to fucking and with 5 mins later I go in for the assist (jerk myself). I ask if I can jack off on her tits or face and she don't understand so I have her dogstyle again with me jerking it and finish on her pussy lips and ass while she is spreading it open for me (which I had to explain to her how to sread it open real good). Not the ending I wanted but what a pretty pussy and ass. Again she was very beautiful and allowed for brief DFK. I don't DATY in TJ but sure was tempted not sure she would of went for it.
Thats it. Mermaids is good. Nice bed and sheets in room with ac! they give you 2 nice towels. Also there is a shower down the hall with toilet with lock on the door. So you could shower with all your belonging locked in with you if you chose too after the deed. There was like 4-6 of these shower rooms at he end of the hall. So its worth noting no bathroom in fuck room.
Sorry for the rambling I don't write much and even more sorry for not remembering her name. It was american name like jennifer or elizabeth. Naa not elizabeth. So go see the lineup and signup if you see something you like. 1hr rules over a 20min rush anyday. Girl had great attitude since they aren't use to rushing everyone to hurry hurry. Funny thing is I still had to finish myself LOL. I had too many beers at the Hong Kong that nite I guess.
I am out budleeeeeee
The next morning I'm up bright and early, shower, and head out with my digital camera. There's only a few girls around as it's Monday morning at 7:30 am. A girl in front of Miami Bar strikes up a conversation, asking about my camera. I show it to her and ask if I can take her photo. No way. Now she's kind of nervous that I might try to take her photo. No surprise here. These girls are all aware of the Internet and suspicious of anyone with a camera. I've had no luck selling the idea of taking photos during sex and limited success taking any photos of them at all. She tries to convince me to take her to my room but I'm not interested. My favorite, Rosio, will be out soon enough.
I decide to hike up Revolución and see if I can find Las Pulgas which I've seen mentioned in the forums. Obviously, just to be aware of its location for future possibilities. It's way up Revolución across from the AM-PM Mini Market and Jai Alai. I get some OJ at the AM-PM, withdraw some cash at their ATM, and head back down the street. The Police are making their morning paddy wagon rounds of the homeless bums. I stop at McDonalds before heading back down to Callejon Coahuila. Rosio is standing at the corner by La Hacienda Bar.
Rosio is a gorgeous, petite Mexicana. She has dark skin and very long, straight, dark brown, almost black hair. She's short with a trim, beautiful body. Her pretty face has a broad smile and gleaming eyes that never fail to make me glad to be alive. She's a sweetheart inside and out. She doesn't look like a SG. She wears modest makeup and is easily a 9. Her manner of dress usually ranges from conservative to moderately provocative. She takes my arm and we walk down to Cascades.
Alone in the elevator with her, I hug her and suggest we have sex right here. She's laughing and I gently turn her around and start to bend her down in front of me. "No, Mike!" she protests, laughing and pushing me away. She knows, of course, I'm only playing. I enjoy her company so much.
My room is a double, so once inside I tell her we'll use the fresh bed. She starts to undress that gorgeous little body and turns to me saying "Close you eyes," in pretend modesty. I cover my eyes with my fingers spread wide staring at her and she falls back on me laughing. Her clothes are off and she picks out a banana flavored condom from my collection. I trained her to put a drop of lubricant on the inside of the condom. She slips it on me and turns her full attention to Mr. Happy who is standing tall with pride. She gives a seriously great CBJ as always. After a good ten minutes, I have to stop her. She asks if I want more oral, I laugh and tell her no mas. I wait a minute and lay her down. She is so beautiful and tiny and sweet. I can't last more than ten minutes of missionary with her this morning.
Afterwards we quiz each other about words in English and Spanish. Last year, I gave her a small Langenscheidt Spanish-English dictionary and another book, [i]Ingles para Latinos[/i], by William C. Harvey. I have a copy of his [i]Spanish for Gringos,[/i] which is a user-friendly approach to conversational Spanish for novices like myself.
I proudly walk her back to her location and as we approach, I see a gorgeous brunette looking sexy as hell. Rosio says she's her friend. Rosio introduces me but, sorry, I can't remember her name. I ask Rosio if she would like a coffee. She says sure and I ask her to ask her friend as well. We walk into Fruteria Avitia, the little store Rosio strands in front of, and I spend the whole time staring at her friend. It's too soon to take another girl, so after I finish my agua mineral, I walk the block a few times.
Eventually, I see my friend Lorena down by Cuartos Venecia. Lorena is cute as can be. Very short with long black hair and a beautiful face with a dimpled smile. I've been with her twice and talked with her many times. She's great and always dresses sexy. It's still too early for another girl, but I ask her to go to room anyway. I take my camera out of my pocket and she says, "No fotos, Michael!" Shot down again. We kiss and pet but I'm not ready for sex yet. I remember that I have a little dictionary in my back pocket for her. Last time in TJ she showed great interest in mine, so I made a point to bring her one this time. I give her the dictionary and 200 pesos for her affections and we stand outside Venecia with me showing her a few key English terms to supplement her vocabulary. (If you happen to see her and she says "You handsome." You can thank me.)
Later that morning, I'm ready again. So I head up Constitución to look for Monica. I saw her yesterday afternoon and promised to return later last night for her. Of course, I didn't. Last time I was in TJ, I told her I would spend some time with her but never did either. My feeling was that she was getting too lazy in bed. So, it's about 10:30 am and she's not at her post and I decide to continue walking up Constitución to catch her coming from her apartment. Two blocks further and I run into her. She's surprised. She's dressed in sweats with a backpack holding her work clothes and other puta stuff. I give her a kiss on the cheek, take her hand and we walk down the street to the hotel she works at. I tell her she looks fine as she is, but she wants to drop off her backpack. I wait for her and then we walk down to Hotel Cascades. In my room she sees that both beds are messy and complains that I have too many mujeres. I tell her its only a few women describe each one to her so she knows where she stands.
Monica has the most beautiful soft skin. She has also lost some weight lately and is starting to look pretty good again. ( Here are previously posted photos when she was heavier: [post=407556]Photo1[/post], [post=403458]Photo2[/post] ). So, she starts scolding me for not coming back for her last night and she was waiting extra late for me. I just tell her I'm basically a liar and was busy with other girls. The funny part is she getting all passionate kissing and sucking me all over. I'm love it and she's getting hot scolding me as well. So I agree with her, the whole time boning her as hard as I can. It was a great, passionate session.
Afterwards, she got changed into some nice jeans and we went over to Hard Rock Cafe to have some lunch. She likes the shrimp fajitas here, I just had a cheeseburger. I like taking the street girls here for lunch. Outside, before entering Hard Rock, a smart ass vendor sees us together and says "Sir, you have a beautiful little sister." Obviously, I'm quite a bit older than Monica. I love TJ!
That's about it for this trip. Oh, the border crossing line was a record length. It took well over two hours standing in line.
Mike
[QUOTE=Nevermore]I appreciate your graciousness Country John, but I can't take credit for the post since I copied it from Burt at another TJ FAQ forum you are familiar with. I'll gladly repost this where you think it is appropriate, or feel free to copy and paste it yourself. Anything to help the cause.[/QUOTE]
Cool, I was unaware of Burts post. Might be a good idea to post in in my thread, or a reference to burts post.
Country John
Went down last Friday night because I normally head on weekday nights and thought I would see if the weekends were going to be better. Many people were going to party and I probably should have joined them on Revolucion :) Anyway I head first to HK because I wanted to see if some hot girls were back but the talent level is low. I like this place because you can see the girls easier, the seats or comfortable for lounging, and it is basically like a US strip club but with more touching available. If you haven't been yet I suggest going but you will not be impressed with the girls compared to the other bars like AB.
Anyway I would say there are around 15-20 girls working and maybe 3 I would give a 7-8's and the rest went way down. One girl I would say is a solid 8 goes by the name America but I have yet to even talk with her because she looks like a *****! She has a model figure, tall and skinny, with prefect tits, nice face, but she is a little thin or she would be a 9. This night she did the lesbian show and you could tell she probably wouldn't be great in the hotel as she was pissed if guys were touching her too much. I mean I understand some of these guys get stupid but many weren't doing much more than the normal petting you see. She didn't seem into the show as much as the other girl either which was a shame but there were a lot of gringos throwing around money this nite so I don't think she cared. Oh back to the too much touching part, one gringo got pulled up on stage because he was doing it too much and they wanted to mess with him. Normally they will rub the shaving cream all over your face and clothes but they just grabbed this guy and got him naked on stage. The guy didn't seem to care so it was a good laugh, though you could see the guy seemed a little embarrassed after. One more note about that girl, when I went upstairs after the show I heard a couple gringos saying she is married as well and her husband was actually sitting up there watching the show!
After this I went over to Tropical again and tried that place out, needless to say I won't go back unless I am out of options. There were 2-3 girls that were 7-8's but all with guys and the others weren't hot at all. If you don't speak good Spanish the place lags as well and there weren't many gringos around to chat with. I was tempted to try another one of the clubs around but I just went back to HK because I didn't want to stay much longer due to the fact I had things to do Saturday and the quality level is bad. I even asked one of the waiters in HK about it and he just shook his had saying he had no clue. I forget his name but he speaks perfect English and is one of the cooler waiters there, short with a buzz cut if you need to ask about chicas. Well back at HK the better girls were still with guys buying them a bunch of drinks. Oh that girl America left after her show so she wasn't around either way. After a while it was getting late so I was going to give it another 30 minutes and leave. I was watching this one girl up stairs, from the bottom level, that I had my eye on the whole night but she wasn't going to leave her cash cow to go to the hotel. While I was watching her though I noticed another girl with a couple Asian guys and she was pretty cute. They were getting her drunk and she seemed like she was having a good time. After a little while the guys left so I decided I would go and talk with her since she was free. She wasn't the hottest girl, a good 6, but was nice and pretty wasted. I asked her about the hotel and she said it was good, broken English, as she could barely stand up at times lol. I think she was new as well because I hadn't seen her before and she said she had arrived the previous Friday. While she was getting cleaned up, prior to going up stairs, they started another lesbian show and it was like 4am so I watched for a few minutes and it was better than the first.
Up in the room it started like a typical TJ experience where she took her clothes off, I took mine off, and she laid there waiting...not the GFE some of us look for. She wouldn't suck me and I was tempted to do some DATY because her pussy was just perfect, actually she had a really good figure, but I wasn't that willing and I don't think she wanted it. I thought for a minute that this session was going to be a really bad one but I recalled she was having fun in the club and was maybe shy. I started mish with her and she became really wet which was great. I really got into it and she seemed to like it as well which makes things that much better. I rolled her over to her side and did her like this for a good 10 minutes and she was moaning like crazy. I thought she was a little too excited (faking the O) and wanting me to cum so I did after a good 20 minutes total. I thought the guys would be knocking soon as well and I wanted to at least finish things up. So I am laying there rubbing her pussy and kissing her more and decide to get up and clean off. She actuallys grabs my arm and pulls me back saying she wanted more, man I thought it was all a show but she was drunk and horny! I'm kind of laughing and she pushes me down on my back and starts to grind on me and puts my hand inside her, my cock is still rapped in the damn condom lol! So now I am laying there with one hand holding my used condom, didn't want the little guys roaming, and the other rubbing her clit. She is moaning, kissing me, grinding away, and I am super tired because it is around 5:00 and I already busted one so I didn't think I could get hard before the guys came to the room. I even told her that they were going to knock soon but she didn't care, kept telling me to "enter" her again and without a condom! I obviously didn't but I did my best to give her another orgasm before we had to leave, which surpisingly didn't happen for a good 10 minutes. Overall one of my best sessions ever, mainly because she was a cool girl and it was a funny experience as well. The fact she wasn't one of the hottest girls, new, and a little drunk probably aided but I am definitely not complaing and will do her again next time but save my nut :) I will have to get her name as well because I can't remember but she was from Mexico City, about 5'3, nice B cup, and speaks broken English.
California Guy
Good report. From my experience, more often than not, the average to above average chicas often are the most fun simply for the reason they are not so full of themselves.
ok here is the 411 on the fiche cheit!. i got the lo down this weekend. obviously, many/most of the girls are recruited from other parts of mexico. what happens is that the club puts an ad in a paper in another city. the girl calls and agrees to the job. the club then sends her a ticket and puts her in a hotel. for this, she must sign a contract for a certain amount of time. in the case of hong kong in order to take her out of the club before her shift is done, one must pay the equivalent of 20 fiches. so if she already has 12 pieces of paper(fiche) with her name on it, then you must pay for the remaining 8, or wait to the end of her shift. can you believe that... 20 fuching drinks!!!! the ones that are not on contract, or have already fulfilled their contract, the normal bar fee is 20- 30 bucks. or so it has been in the past. hope this helps clear it up a bit. they are pimps first and foremost!
[quote=mike 123][b]okay, let me just say it: i'm going to be fiche fucked here. this is a classic example of how it happens. enjoy.[/b]
i went down to tj on superbowl sunday and eventually landed in valentina bar in the alley. valentina bar is, i believe, owned by adelita bar. it is a less successful version of miami bar. that is, it is aimed mostly at locals and offers chicas for dollar dances with occasional strip shows. there is a hotel next door, used by both bar girls and the valentina street hookers. i enter and order a bohemia beer and they deliver two for 30 pesos. i give a 10 peso tip.
there is a homely white blonde stripping on the dance floor. nice breasts but flabby everywhere else. she starts making the rounds for dollar tips. for a dollar you can pretty much touch or kiss her anywhere. after her, a young brunette with black thigh-high stockings and four-inch heels starts her dance. now we're talking. she's pretty, a bit thick, but not fat. her firm, toned body is nice. i really like her wide face, big eyes, and pouty lips. she looks to be about 20. yes, this will likely be the one i want. she has my full attention and i hold up a dollar while she's making the rounds and get a chance at feeling her smooth, perfect skin.
after she's done she goes back to the dressing room. a short, fat, older brunette starts to strip dance. this only confirms that the young brunette is the right choice for me. after a couple minutes, my girl climbs into a shower stage in the back that i never noticed before. i finish my first beer and start the second. she finishes her shower and takes forever to come out. when she does come out, she lays down on a bench seat next to the stage turning her full attention to her damn cell phone. my eyes are locked on her but she never looks up. after about ten minutes, i ask a passing masero to fetch her for me. she's kind of surprised, but comes over willing, sits next to me, and i give the nod for fiche #1. the game is on.
60 pesos for the fiche and a 10 peso tip. but now my second beer is empty and i order another. her name is cristal, sure it is. we quickly establish that she knows no english. perfect. i know only a few phrases and maybe a rep001tered hundred words maximum. i really haven't found this to be a problem. i plan to do lots of touching and very little talking anyway. i wrap my arms around her and pay for my next 2-for-1 bohemia. a couple sips later and we order fiche #2.
a well-endowed stripper makes her rounds and my girl says her own breasts are too little. i assure her that they are just perfect. she pulls them out and i confirm my evaluation with a more careful examination. recall that cristal is fresh out of the shower. she smells great and feel even better. i try to rub her belly, but her oversized belt is in the way. no problem, she immediately removes it. she pulls her top all the way down and orders fiche #3. she works on making a paper rose out of a napkin, i work on making her nipples hard.
we caress each other and i massage her neck and shoulders as she turns sideways to relax into my body. this is great. fiche #4 is ordered and promptly delivered. she briefly pulls her bikini bottom away to show me her fuzz. they start playing a slow song and we get up to dance along with a few other couples. she kicks off her shoes making her a couple inches shorter than me. perfect. she snuggles into me as we slow dance. back to the table and its time for fiche #5. she pulls out her bikini bottom and i slip my hand onto her pussy. we start deep french kissing and i order myself another beer. she finishes her beer, pours some of my beer into her glass and gulps it. more kissing, petting, dancing and now i'm not sure what fiche we're on but i ask her to go to the hotel. she's delighted and heads off to the baño. meanwhile, the masero shows up with a bucket of five more fiches.
there's no fucking way i'm going to buy a bucket of beer at 60 pesos a bottle. the masero says it is required if i want to take this girl to the hotel. i tell him to leave one beer and no more. cristal returns and the masero says something to her. cristal gulps the remaining bottle and i tell her no mas crevaze and vamos hotel. as we approach the exit, several maseros are stop her argue about the bucket of beers. i have no intention of arguing and continue walking toward the exit. she says something like she's a puta working for money. i walk outside, she catches up to me and we get a room for a half hour.
really, i've had too much to drink at this point. we settle into the room, she undresses and we spend lots of time dfk. she's young and beautiful and i'm happy as can be. we explore each other and eventually she pushes my head down between her spread legs. the more she wiggles and moans, the more effort put into the task at hand.
before i know it, the knock comes. i haven't even had my chance yet. i ask her for more time. she says i have to buy five more damn beers for more time. no fucking way. i pay her 500 pesos and leave.
[b]i knew better, but still: fiche fucked.[/b][/quote]
I have not been able to make it down the adult playland in the south for around 8 months due to other commitments in the US.
I am planning on heading down between 3/4-3/8 with 3 nights planned in TJ.
I have read almost all of the posts here and had a few questions for the more frequent visitors:
1) Is it really 2h wait at the border? Is this only on Fri/Sat or other days and in the early evening (return around 10-11pm).
2) I assume just a US drivers license is still all that is required to get back? I don't like taking my passport as they scan it and I am concerned what informaiton could leak out to others in the US. ;-) In the past I just brought a photo-copy of my ID even though I never needed it.
3) Any recommendations on top new talent at AB or CC or on the street.
4) I was thinking of staying one night in either AB or CC so I can use the room with Chicas and then sleep after drinking. I did this one other time but the noise at AB was so loud it was hard to sleep. The room was safe and all but they play loud music all night. Do all of the CC/AB rooms do this or was it just that one night. I thought maybe they were trying to get me to check out early.
Someone told me TJ has a Tequila Festival where vendors bring their Teq's and you pay something like $20, does anyone know about this and when do they have it?
I heard Ensenada has a similar festival but I am not talking about that one, I want to check out TJ.
Return times depend on whether you are walking or driving across so I am not sure which you are going for? I can tell you that 3 weeks back I went on Friday and when I left to go back, it was around 5 am, the fucking line was back to where the taxi drops you off! I would definitely bring your ID but not a passport because it isn't required and it would suck to lose something like that. Not sure about staying at AB or CC and I don't frequent those enough to recommend any girls. There are plenty of girls though in AB so I don't think you would have a problem finding a good looking girl. On my last trip I didn't check AB out because I don't like the crowds and for non-gfe why put up with it? Then again if you want to best looking girls it seems like the spot to be.
A friend said that he read that a passport will be required to return to the Staes from MX next year. I remember hearing that they proposed this last year but it got shot down. Any info on this one?
I was really interested in the return times on Sunday->Thursday around 10pm -> 2am. I strictly avoid TJ on Fri/Sat night unless I was planning on going for just the revo drinking clubs. The zona is too crowded otherwise. I have never had to wait very long in the past. I was only interested in walk across times as I never drive to TJ.
[QUOTE=California Guy]Return times depend on whether you are walking or driving across so I am not sure which you are going for? I can tell you that 3 weeks back I went on Friday and when I left to go back, it was around 5 am, the fucking line was back to where the taxi drops you off! I would definitely bring your ID but not a passport because it isn't required and it would suck to lose something like that. Not sure about staying at AB or CC and I don't frequent those enough to recommend any girls. There are plenty of girls though in AB so I don't think you would have a problem finding a good looking girl. On my last trip I didn't check AB out because I don't like the crowds and for non-gfe why put up with it? Then again if you want to best looking girls it seems like the spot to be.[/QUOTE]
Hey Lascivious
Check out this website
[url]http://travel.state.gov/index.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Lascivious]A friend said that he read that a passport will be required to return to the Staes from MX next year. I remember hearing that they proposed this last year but it got shot down. Any info on this one?[/QUOTE]I was returning from TJ Monday evening & asked that specific question of the US officer since I had met a couple who wanted to visit but did not have passports. His answer: they are implementing it in stages with the TJ crossing to be implemented in 2008. I didn't ask if that was January or December.
[QUOTE=Belldude2]Ok here is the 411 on the fiche cheit!. I got the lo down this weekend. Obviously, many/most of the girls are recruited from other parts of Mexico. What happens is that the club puts an ad in a paper in another city. The girl calls and agrees to the Job. The club then sends her a ticket and puts her in a hotel. For this, she must sign a contract for a certain amount of time. In the case of Hong Kong in order to take her out of the club before her shift is done, one must pay the equivalent of 20 Fiches. so If she already has 12 pieces of paper(fiche) with her name on it, then you must pay for the remaining 8, or wait to the end of her shift. Can you believe that... 20 fuching drinks!!!! The ones that are not on contract, or have already fulfilled their contract, the normal bar fee is 20- 30 bucks. or so it has been in the past. Hope this helps clear it up a bit. They are pimps first and foremost![/QUOTE]I guess I'm confused then. I stopped by at HK last night early (8PM) met a cute gal named Selma [sp?] & we went next door - no problems. I had only bought her one beer & paid no bar fine. She had mentioned thast she had just gotten to work so it's unlikely she had a dozen tickets yet.
[QUOTE=Netman05]I have not been able to make it down the adult playland in the south for around 8 months due to other commitments in the US.
I am planning on heading down between 3/4-3/8 with 3 nights planned in TJ.
I have read almost all of the posts here and had a few questions for the more frequent visitors:
1) Is it really 2h wait at the border? Is this only on Fri/Sat or other days and in the early evening (return around 10-11pm).
2) I assume just a US drivers license is still all that is required to get back? I don't like taking my passport as they scan it and I am concerned what informaiton could leak out to others in the US. ;-) In the past I just brought a photo-copy of my ID even though I never needed it.
3) Any recommendations on top new talent at AB or CC or on the street.
4) I was thinking of staying one night in either AB or CC so I can use the room with Chicas and then sleep after drinking. I did this one other time but the noise at AB was so loud it was hard to sleep. The room was safe and all but they play loud music all night. Do all of the CC/AB rooms do this or was it just that one night. I thought maybe they were trying to get me to check out early.[/QUOTE]
Netman,
The wait at the border depands on when and how you come back. On the weekends, if you drive back, 1-2h wait is the norm. Walking back, the wait is rarely longer than 30 minutes, even on weekends and sometimes it is very short.
For now, all you will need is your driver's license. You could always take a photocopy of your passport also. Generally, when you drive across they do not scan your passport (because your license plates are automatically scanned) and they may or may not scan it when you walk across.
Hotels at AB & CC will tend to fil up quickly on the weekends. I recommend you stay somewhere else as the noise in those hotels makes sleeping next to impossible. In the zone itself, there are plenty of hotels. The Nelson Hotel (corner of Revolucion & Primera) is OK, though pricey, and there are some hotels on Calle Coahuila, just west of AB & CC (Come out of AB, turn right and walk straight - there are a few hotels along there that are OK and less noisy).
I was trying to get my girl out at about 2pm and she worked till 8pm. I would imagine that short time might be different. thats cool though
[QUOTE=Dan D Dick]I guess I'm confused then. I stopped by at HK last night early (8PM) met a cute gal named Selma [sp?] & we went next door - no problems. I had only bought her one beer & paid no bar fine. She had mentioned thast she had just gotten to work so it's unlikely she had a dozen tickets yet.[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind that I did mention that it is the ones on contract. If I am correct, Selma used to work at Adelitas, and hence, was not brought here by Hong Kong so she is not on contract. They must make the money back that the bar spent to get them to TJ
[QUOTE=Dan D Dick]I guess I'm confused then. I stopped by at HK last night early (8PM) met a cute gal named Selma [sp?] & we went next door - no problems. I had only bought her one beer & paid no bar fine. She had mentioned thast she had just gotten to work so it's unlikely she had a dozen tickets yet.[/QUOTE]
I tried the NY steak in the restaurant that belongs to the Chicago club. It was terrible.
I kept inspecting it and wondering if it was horse meat since it was so tough that it almost pulled my teeth out.
Worst 10$ spent. I can't determine whether this is worse than the Adelita restaurant. It was close. Should have went to Mc Donalds instead.
Could you guys recommend some restaurants down there that would NOT require a stomach examination thereafter?
Fri. night (12:30 AM Sat. morning) border wait time: About as fast as you could get. I stopped before walking up to the agent for less than one min. I asked how he was doing tonight. His reply was a very dry, stern, "citizenship?” More like a statement than a question. I said, "US" and was on my way in seconds. More to follow…
[QUOTE=Jackie888]I tried the NY steak in the restaurant that belongs to the Chicago club. It was terrible.
I kept inspecting it and wondering if it was horse meat since it was so tough that it almost pulled my teeth out.
Worst 10$ spent. I can't determine whether this is worse than the Adelita restaurant. It was close. Should have went to Mc Donalds instead.
Could you guys recommend some restaurants down there that would NOT require a stomach examination thereafter?[/QUOTE]
Try La Perla restaurant. Per OWL's quote below, the food is excellent and very reasonable priced. I have eaten there many many times and never had a single problem. It is also very close to the action: come out of AB and go left to the stop sign. La Perla is the building diagonally across from you with the palm thatch roof.
Bluenose....nice to share that beer with you at Aztec. It took so long to spot you because Adela was blocking the view (intentionally I think). Anyway, hope you had a great session with your girley. Trip report? Did they re-open Rio Verde yet?
The Zona is NOT set up for sleeping unless you are knocked out anyway. I tln'd at Cascades for quite a while with by then fav and never got much sleep. I wondered how she got any sleep.
You'll have to move up to Nelson if you want to get ANY sleep. Good luck.
Country John
I did a Otay search and did not find any posts, which is strange.
So can somebody please tell me how to get from say Revolution to the Otay border crossing?
The San Ysidro crossing is ridiculous during the day. Too many tourists right now.
TJ
I will definitely be in the Zona this coming weekend. I am thinking about being there on Saturday night, sunday day and evening, Monday evening, and Tuesday daytime.
Any suggestions on specific Chicas that are giving good service right now. I really don't care too much about the price only the quality of service 1st and looks 2nd.
Interested in any good SWs as I typically stick to AB and CC but will try the alley sometimes. I only get to TJ a few times a year so I always look for guidance from the veterans.
Also if anyone is going to be in TJ on those days let me know and we could hook up for a beer. You can PM me.
If you are there on a weekend morning, the brunch at the Pueblo Amigo hotel is fantastic.
[QUOTE=Jackie888]I tried the NY steak in the restaurant that belongs to the Chicago club. It was terrible.
I kept inspecting it and wondering if it was horse meat since it was so tough that it almost pulled my teeth out.
Worst 10$ spent. I can't determine whether this is worse than the Adelita restaurant. It was close. Should have went to Mc Donalds instead.
Could you guys recommend some restaurants down there that would NOT require a stomach examination thereafter?[/QUOTE]
Not to scare anyone but just a reminder to be safe and protect yourselves down there. I know some of you go unprotected. Might want to think twice about that and decide if it’s worth it.
Just be safe and have fun.
[b]HIV/AIDS rates in Tijuana, Mexico increasing at alarming rate[/b]
[url]http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-02/uoc--hri022706.php[/url]
Good info. I have known of cases where some of the girls at ABs have had herpes. Some of the girls will come down with something and a month later during their check up, their health cards are stamped "enfermo". Thus they can no longer work in a bar. Remember mongers, WRAP IT UP!
Did you actually see the ladies while they had the herpes sores, or did someone tell you that they have herpes? That is pretty scary, a condom will not help against herpes.
I did have an experience a couple of years ago. I saw a chica while crossing the street, and she offered sex. I looked at her said no thanks, and noticed that she had heavy make up on her face. I could see that she was covering up a herpes sore on her lip. I asked what is was and she said that it was nothing , and she then walked away.
I would recommend that any monger that is active go over to the STD sites and look at the different STD symtoms. It is not 100% effective, but it may help you to walk away from a piece of bad pu***. Photos are included in some of the sites so you get a good idea what is going on. Be very carefull with the DATY and strap up all the time, even for BJ's.
Mutha, the ladies with the herpes, have you seen the inside of Adelitas, or in the alley since you found out that they were infected?
[QUOTE=FlapJacK]Not to scare anyone but just a reminder to be safe and protect yourselves down there. I know some of you go unprotected. Might want to think twice about that and decide if it’s worth it.
Just be safe and have fun.
[b]HIV/AIDS rates in Tijuana, Mexico increasing at alarming rate[/b]
[url]http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-02/uoc--hri022706.php[/url][/QUOTE]
well, condoms are just not enough to protect you against many STD's. you need to take showers right after sex with soap especially against contracting herpesII and HPV/genital warts. also, no dfk and no daty with *****s as mucous to mucous contact and exchange of bodily fluids is an easy way to pass on std's. have fun and play smart.
You crack me up! Soap and water???? Are you kidding me? Why didn't the CDC think of that in their battle against AIDS in South Africa. You're hilarious!
I finally made it back to the land of the Chicas after a 4 month absensce. Those of you living in the San Diego or La area have it made to the rest of the US for mongering IMHO.
Saturday night was just too crowded for my tastes in AB. CC was not too bad but I settled for a SW. I met her outside of Miami club. She is tall with dark skin. I can't remember her name but she gave full service for $30 including Sin Ropa. Not bad but sort of mechanical.
Sunday was the day I was fullly thinking of the 3 pop. Being around 40 this is not an easy task, at least for me. Armed with some Cialis I was up for the call though. I headed down to AB around 12:30 in the afternoon. My goal was to get the first pop done quick and then move on right away to some more cialis and then rest. The first chica was named Lola. She had wavy hair, very nice body, around 30. Overall pretty good experience.
I spent the next 4 hours roaming the Zona in AB or Hong Kong with some beer and food mixed in. I took the 2nd Cialis and headed back to AB as I didnt' find anything in the alley I liked. I was striken by the taller blond who wore the white halter top. I think her name was ***** but I can't remember. Her service was awful. She constantly stopped claiming it was too hot or too big. I was thinking I would never finish. She was using her hand and the whole thing sucked. I mean she was really hot and all but sex was pretty bad. I had to hold her in place and then she started yelling. So I just sort of gave up. I did pay her $60 but no tip. I was pretty pissed. I guess I got what I deserved as I didn't even talk to her much in the bar. Just got excited by that body. I would avoid her. She is close to a 10 in looks but a 4 in service. Also she asked for a tip and I just laughed.
HK was pretty dead on Sunday. Hardly any Gringos in either AB or HK. CC was really dead. In HK I got a few talbe dances to warm up for one more try at the 2pop ( I assume the 3 pop was out for today). The 3rd Cialis came in handy. Back at AB I figured I would go with a really nice 6-8 Chica who would give good service. I met this woman names Maria with a "Bebe" shirt. she is probaly around 30 or so. But has really nice natural body, a little larger than a spinner but otherwise OK. She was all over me in the bar. She said it was a slow day. Would do anything including BBBJ for $80. I was thinking no way in TJ. But for $50 she would do a dance, massage, and any position. Her dance got me pretty excited. She did the grind all over me. Her CBJ was also pretty good. Her sex form in cowgirl and reverse cowgirl was incredible. She had the best pussy control I have ever felt. I have been with about 25 chicas in TJ and her sex was the best. Not the best looker but best technique. I was going crazy when I finall popped. I wonder if with 3 like her I could have gotten the 3 pop on Sunday. Afte about 10h in the Zona I was ready to head back. No problems or anything. I still love TJ just for the selection, low key atsmosphere, relative saftey, and smutty factor to it all. I probably spent around $400 in TJ but I had a great time.
Another report about my next 2 nights coming up....
After the valiant effort for a 3 pop on Sunday I headed back on Monday night looking for a 1 pop and maybe a 2 pop depending on how I felt. TJ was pretty crowded for a Monday but I noticed mostly locals in Ab which means a lot of men not going upstairs. The chicas were all there but I am noticing some new ones. I also spot this Chica Sara that I have looked at for a while. She has a great body but doens't dress like a stripper or wear a ton of make-up. She also speaks pretty good english. I have bought her a drink but only later when I was done. I decide tonight I will try her. She is not agressive in the bar at all. In fact she asked me to give her a shoulder rub which I did and like doing. We hung out for 20m with only one drink. I had to suggest the room which is unique for TJ.
In the room I found out that her nice rack I was feeling downstaris is fake but that is oK. She has a great body and a real natural look. She rubbed all over me for 5-10m before she started with a really good CBJ. Her sex was not as good as Maria the other night but her body and Enlighs was good. We were laughing and talking. Sort or nice to not have all the faking going on. I never even talked about money so I just gave her $60+$5. It was now 12:30 so I just headed home to save up for a 2 pop the next day before I need to leave Southern California/TJ.
I forgot to mention that the spinner chick from Sunday actually said it was $80 for suckie once in the room and the condom was on. I just paid her but I was really even more pissed about that.
Tuesday was another most of the day affair. I picked up a SW in the afternoon. Her name is Lucia and she stand across the street from Miama club. She was oK but nothing great. I had to give her more money to finish and move her hand a few times. But she did look great naked. I did another vitamin C and waited 3-4 hours. I went back and tried to find Maria in AB but she was not there. I did the woman (name I can't remember) who wears the USA swimsuit with the largest tits I have ever seen. Of course they are fake but I wanted to try out a chica like that for a while. She was really happy to take $50 when I offered and agreed to let me suck and tity bang her. I am glad I gave the room guy an extra $5 on the way in as I took about 40m to finish with her. She really got a lot of banging as I have been in Tj almost non-stop for 4 days and even the "C" was making it hard to pop. I must have done her doggie for 10-12m before I finally poppped. She was pretty heavey when on to and it was not all the comfortable. The tity bang was pretty exciting and just playing and touching them was worth the dinero. I gave her a nice tip as she never complained about how long it took. Overall a pretty good experience.
I again love TJ and wish I could get there more often. Good luck to all the mongers. I didn't see that many Gringos in TJ this time in AB or HK, except on Saturday. I also saw policia at the border each night but no problems. I did have to wait about 20m on Sunday night and 30m on Saturday night to walk back but no problems. My only problem was not enough time and not enough youth for more pops in the Zone.
Long live TJ.
[QUOTE=Mutha Foo]You crack me up! Soap and water???? Are you kidding me? Why didn't the CDC think of that in their battle against AIDS in South Africa. You're hilarious![/QUOTE]
It's not the CDC that didn't think of it, it's the people who didn't practice decent hygene after sex.
Country John
Learn to read you country hick. BTW how's the alley.
[QUOTE=Mutha Foo]Learn to read you country hick. BTW how's the alley.[/QUOTE]
Howyadoin Mutha, long time no read.
Havn't been to the Alley for a while. I'm living with a girl in TJ on the weekends, saving heaps of money and having a hell of a time.
Country John
How's the rent? Where are you renting? Did you find the place thru the paper? Good luck to you.
[QUOTE=Mutha Foo]How's the rent? Where are you renting? Did you find the place thru the paper? Good luck to you.[/QUOTE]
4 BR 1-1/2ba 1600 sqft 2 st house in Las Pinas - South Side. $450/pm. The house is new and secure. Found it on Craigs List I figger I save over $1,000 pM on mongering. Got a 35 YO Myan girl who knows whassup.
Country John
[QUOTE=Mutha Foo]You crack me up! Soap and water???? Are you kidding me? Why didn't the CDC think of that in their battle against AIDS in South Africa. You're hilarious![/QUOTE]
Seriously foo, stay-off the crack you ignorant MoFo. Ever heard of showering after sex? Obviously not, you filthy std ritten flea bag. At least you do the sink wash after the putas right? Of course not, you just pull-up your hawaiin shorts and you're out the door in 4minutes, huh? lol. what a mutha f! later boy.
TJ Bob
Naaaawww! Don't need to wash my self. That way dem putas can get all of my STDs fresh off the press. Also, I let them suck my shaft bareback. So in a way, when you're DFK'ing a puta, you're kissing my dick. LOL! YOU SUCKA!
Seriously, washing after sex is a good first step. I've seen video and stills from patients who haven't washed in weeks. Their peckers were infected with bacteria first. Some of these pics might be online, I'll have to check but it shouldn't take a picture of an infected dick to make it make sense.
Anyway, happy screwing.
Country John
[QUOTE=Mutha Foo]Naaaawww! Don't need to wash my self. That way dem putas can get all of my STDs fresh off the press. Also, I let them suck my shaft bareback. So in a way, when you're DFK'ing a puta, you're kissing my dick. LOL! YOU SUCKA![/QUOTE]
What a cum back you dirty Mofo. DFK and BBBJ with putas? What's next for you, DATY? no gracias, you pinche puto. lol.
It's just all in fun. i'll help ya out a bit. Look up teamjuanita for your anal fantasy. They can really help you out with that. Ask for their newest additions to their line of putos for anal freaks like you. Keep the lights off and enjoy a mutual BBBJ and rimjob too. you're welcome mofo. anytime. lol.
You're such a sucka! Teamjuanita is such a scam!!! Nothing but grannies and trannies. Is that what you're into? Damn! You're a serious freak. Lata CHUMP.
I left work early on Friday and drove down to Tijuana. There was a bit of rain in Orange County with much more on the way, but I didn't care. Sure, TJ is a shithole in the rain, but a Friday evening is sure to be busy regardless. Always looking for new adventures, I had already decided that I would to try out the new Hotel El Porton in the Alley (Callejon Coahuila).
[u]Hotel El Porton Report[/u]
Hotel El Porton is a newer hotel which I first mentioned in my review of its attached bar [post=399873]El Corral[/post]. It is located in the Alley (Callejon Coahuila), on the North side near Constitución. There is no sign for this hotel. It shares a brown-orange tile facade with Bar El Corral. I have been inside this hotel only once before, short time with a street girl named [b]Margarita[/b], a tall, pretty, flaca morena from Mexico City who works late evenings. She used to work out of Hotel Mini, but moved over here a few months ago.
I walk down the long corridor to the small reception desk and inquiry about getting a room for the night. A woman who speaks no English is working the reception desk with a man sitting to the side, both watching a movie on a small computer LCD. A room will be $35. With some language difficulty, I confirm that the first girl I bring to the room will be [i]gratis[/i] and subsequent girls will be $6 each for the room fine. $6 is their normal charge for a 15 minute room rental. I hand over 350 pesos and she gives me a key, not asking for a deposit, identification, or even my name.
The man walks me upstairs stopping at large cabinet to give me a blanket. I ask about towels and he grabs three large bath towels for me. I get settled in my room. It's a very small room, but everything is brand new. The room is about 7' x 12' and the bathroom about 7' x 5'. It has a new cushion-topped mattress, double bed with two flat pillows. There is only a sheet and top sheet on the bed, hence, the reason they gave me a blanket on the way up to my room. The room is so narrow that there is no space for a bedside table. The bed butts up against the wall on one side with the doorless bathroom entrance on the other side. There is only one table in the room holding a 19" color TV and a DirecTV cable box. The TV includes a built-in DVD player. There is no closet or dresser or chair; with no where to put anything I set my small backpack under the TV table.
Looking around the room there are no heating or air conditioning vents or controls. The ceiling is high like 12' or more. The bathroom sink has no hot water line. I later discover there is plenty of hot water for the shower. The sink and shower have full liquid soap dispensers. I turn on the TV and fiddling with the box I can't pick up a signal, so I head down to reception to inquire. The man who showed me my room asks me to wait, runs over to Bar El Corral and returns with another guy who speaks some broken English. This guy grabs a remote controller, heads up to my room and resets the TV input, but explains that I can't keep the remote. I turn the TV off and on a couple times to see if it still works. It does. There are hundreds of channels including HBO and lots of XM music.
Looking around a bit, I see there are only nine rooms for overnight rental. All are singles and open except mine, I suppose I am the only one staying here tonight. Most of the rooms have a mirror in place of a headboard, mine has neither. The rooms downstairs are just for quickie sessions, not for overnight rental.
That night I took a shower with plenty of hot water. The room was quiet enough, better than most other hotels but music could be heard all night long. The room was a bit cold, but I was fine with the blanket they provided. They did use a couple of the upstairs rooms for short sessions, so I did hear some people moving about throughout the evening.
[u]Hotel El Porton Summary[/u]
Benefits:
1. New = Clean
2. Location is great
3. Chica friendly
4. DirecTV (Good for long sessions, bad for short sessions)
Drawbacks:
1. Small
2. No room heat/air
[u]Compared with Zona Other Hotels[/u]
I consider the pricing neutral, not the cheapest place nor the most expensive.
[b]Hotel Leyva[/b] is $19 for a double bed with no TV or $27 the for same double bed but registering two people. I always get a room on the living quarters side rather than the tourist motel side. They quote higher prices for the motel side where the rooms are larger and have TV's. Leyva is right next to Chicago Club and Leyva has car parking which would certainly tip the scales for those driving into the zone. I never drive there. Many of the street girls won't go this far if they don't know you, but some certainly will. I've never had any issues bringing girls here or going to girls rooms here. I've even brought street girls with me to the registration desk and got a room for the night.
[b]Hotel Mini[/b] in the alley is only $20, but old, cold, smelly, loud and no TV. Mini only gives one old towel. The first girl is free and the rest are $5. Many hot chicas work out of this hotel. Most street girls will go here with you but don't really like it because of it lacks a TV and is kind of run down. The office ladies are really nice folks. The location is great.
[b]Hotel Cascades[/b] is $28 for a single, which they almost never have available; $44 for two double beds, usually available early in the afternoon; or $67 for a Jacuzzi room with a queen size bed. Cascades also charges $5 after the first girl, but $12 for their bar girls (those working inside Miami Bar, Hong Kong Bar, or Las Chavelas) Cascades always has a TV. The cleanliness, heating, cooling, and noise are just the luck of the draw; I've certainly had every range of experience with rooms at Cascades. The staff here can be annoying. The location is great.
[u]Hotel El Porton Conclusion[/u]
I would consider staying at Hotel El Porton again, but it's just one more possibility, not a strong favorite by any means.
More about my trip later.
Mike
Stopped by ABs on Saturday night. The club is trying to be more like Las Vegas and less like Mexico. I didn't care for the remodel at all. If I wanted Las Vegas, I would be in Las Vegas. The old ABs was kinda of crusty and old like Mexico itself. They should have left the place the way it was. Also, noted alot of new talent but them all seem cold and professional. All money and no games. I miss the next door type of girl that no longer frequents this place. I think I will stick with Tropical. At least it has the hometown feel that I like. Peace out.
Headed down to Mex and just hung out at HK. The talent level sucked as always but I don't expect much anymore. I mean I haven't seen a good group of chicas there since last year and even then there were maybe 4 hot girls all scooped up by guys buying stupid gifts :) I have fun with the laid back atmosphere or I wouldn't bother with HK, nice compared to AB but they need better girls because it is getting sad. Didn't take anything upstairs, just my second time with this and I probably should have grabbed a street girl because they looked better.
Natural progression. Brought about mainly by the traffic and clientele. More money walks through the front door these days. The scary part is that the girls don't miss the "good ole days."
They are all business but then again they got a stiff contract with the club. Might be a few changes there too and that could explain the new faces.
Oh well. They'll always be very very busy. I preferred Miami, Hong Kong and ultimately Rio Verde for the real edge. I live in TJ with a girl I met at Rio Verde. A real sweet Myan princessa. We're 8 months in and we have a nice house on the South side.
Country John
I generally post in the Mexico City section; but will have the pleasure of being in TJ for four days soon. Any recommendations on low rent, but safe, clean, and possibly even quiet, chica friendly hotels near the street action? Thanks, ML
Be careful if you visit La Carreta (spelling?) Bar in the middle of and on the south side of the alley in TJ. Like many places, they have men outside loudly encouraging people to enter and I decided to see what was going on inside. Unfortunately I allowed my cock instead of my brain to control my actions and ended up wasting a lot of good money. But maybe I can at least warn other mongers to stay away from the place, or to at least use more sense than I did. After I settled at the bar a cute looking girl came and sat down next to me. Although I drank only mineral water, she asked me to first buy her a few drinks. As expected the drinks were very expensive. While she was with me she got me really turned on, and then I paid the bar $40 to allow me to take her to a room they had upstairs. The price includes thirty minutes and about four or five beers. The rooms are very small and dark; measuring about 6 feet by about three feet, and contain a small reclining sofa. Once inside, the girl wanted $50 for herself. Using my cock to make the decisions, and really wanting to do this girl, I forked over the money. From here on things only got worse. Not only did the cramped room make getting it on difficult, but the girl’s pussy smelled. Being a clean person myself, I find a smelly pussy completely unbearable and a complete turn off. After doing her in two positions and not enjoying the experience, I thanked her for her time and then left the bar. My advice is to either not go into this place, or to use extreme caution and common sense. For the money I spent in there I could have enjoyed the company of at least three of the street girls or at least have a great time with one of the main bars like the Chicago Club or Adilita’s
[QUOTE=Munch Lunch]I generally post in the Mexico City section; but will have the pleasure of being in TJ for four days soon. Any recommendations on low rent, but safe, clean, and possibly even quiet, chica friendly hotels near the street action? Thanks, ML[/QUOTE]
Hey Munch,
On my last visit to TJ I noticed a hotel across the street from La Tropez Bar (about one block east of the main action area) called Hotel Hacienda de Santiago. I've never been a guest there but the place looked new, so I walked into the lobby to see what they charged for a single. They wanted $44 for per night for a single, and as I expected, the looby looks newly built or rebuilt. Already having purchased a room on the US side, I simply noted the place as a poosible place to stay the next time in town. However, I did ask a couple of the locals about the place. What I was told is that the hotel is only about six months old, with very clean rooms, and supposedly guest (girl) friendly. I do not have a map of the Zona Norte, otherwise I'd tell you exactly the intersection where the place is located. But any cab driver or any of the local people in the ZN should be able to tell you where it is. If you do decide to spend a night there, please tell us about your experience. Being a poor working slob, I can only visit TJ once or twice a year.
Good Luck!
[QUOTE=El Putero]Be careful if you visit La Carreta Bar in the middle of and on the south side of the alley in TJ. …I allowed my cock instead of my brain to control my actions and ended up wasting a lot of good money.[/QUOTE]
Hah! Been there, done that.
La Carreta Bar is expert at fleecing us gringos this way. Happens to more guys than are willing to admit. I was there last fall and had a similar experience. I'm still kicking myself!
Mike
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I stood upon a high place,
And saw, below, many devils
Running, leaping,
And carousing in sin.
One looked up grinning,
And said: "Comrade! Brother!"
—Stephen Crane
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Went down and headed to HK to hang with some new friends I met last week. The place is honestly becoming a joke, not just for the lack of hot girls but the freakin waiters who hastle you every 2 minutes. I was there late buying a girl some drinks and before she could finish half of the beer she had, 3 dickheads were standing there telling me I had to buy more, I kid you not 3 different people. I basically told them I wasn't interested because of their attitudes and told the girl that she missed out on some money because of those losers, one is like the tallest waiter there and I'm sure if you have been you know this asshole. Anyway, the girls were mostly above average with 4 girls who were good looking. One is this girl named America and I think she is pretty hot but a guy told me a gringo offered her over 100 for 30 min and she turned it down! He said she is probably asking over 200 and I laughed saying that is worse than America so what is the fucking point? I mean she is hot but damn for 400hr you can get some serious ass in the US who will give you just about everything you want. I think the next time I go down I will chill at HK but I doubt I will take anymore girls up from this place. I can walk outside and get a girl for 30 who is just as good looking or even better so screw HK for making a good setup turn to shit.
I found these videos on a google search. It seems to be several large movies of a dude walking around the zona norte, filming the ladies.
[url]http://www.archive.org/details/TIJUANA[/url]
I wonder why? Wierd.
HOTEL - Will check out your recommendation. Also, found some other leads int this forum. Thanks to all!
CARRETA BAR - That has happened to us all at one time or another. Thanks for sharing. I will avoid.
M.L.
[QUOTE=El Putero]
I do not have a map of the Zona Norte, otherwise I'd tell you exactly the intersection where the place is located.
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It's located at the corner of Coahuila and Revolucion.
Munch, I pm'd you about Hotel Leyva. well Hotel Hacienda de Santiago is owned by the same people, so I would trust them as well. for me Leyva is more than good enough at only 29 bucks a night. but Maybe I will try hacienda de Santiago soon. When you are there, I would love to show you some other clubs not in the Zona too. Let me know.
Al
[QUOTE=Munch Lunch]HOTEL - Will check out your recommendation. Also, found some other leads int this forum. Thanks to all!
CARRETA BAR - That has happened to us all at one time or another. Thanks for sharing. I will avoid.
M.L.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mutha Foo]The old ABs was kinda of crusty and old like Mexico itself.[/QUOTE]
Thanks funny!
LOL!
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Went last night and it looks good. I didn't see any girls dancing so I am not sure why they have the poles. I have a feeling they are trying to make it like a better HK club because the first thing girls were doing was asking for drinks, it use to be straight to the room :) which is better so you don't spend as much. There were a couple lookers but all in one group which was odd and they were acting like high school dumbasses. I didn't hook up because I would rather not waste my money on a chica who will probably act like a blow up doll in the room. I also went to HK and it is still the same, but they actually had a couple extra girls, not hot but extra, working. I observed that girl America and she is pretty much a bag and if you buy her drinks you are wasting time, just go and see. The hottest girl was some crazy chick from the US who was half naked and dancing on the stages. She was wasted but super pretty so it was fun to watch, little mexican girl with a hot face and body. She got annoying after a while and kept wanting to dance so they told her to leave lol.
I got jacked there also. Every time I pass the place, I wait until the barker is done with his routine then I proceed to tell him how I got ripped off there. I do so in a tone that others around will clearly hear. Same with Pollo Bar. Man, I got ripped big time at El Pollo Bar.
My GF is a Myan Indian girl who is a real sweetheart I met at Rio Verde. We've been together for 8 months and currently share a house in TJ. We are having a very positive experience together, by the way.
We shower before sex and often when we shower (together) we don't get to he sack for (sometimes) a few hours. During the session I always DATY her. She has the sweetest pussy I ever had. I did notice a very FAINT trace of the smell that is sometimes VERY strong from the girls. I think I know the smell you are referring to.
For my girly, it's just body sweat. It's not because she isn't clean. She is very clean. We both are. Our sessions are full on porn style and usually last 2 hours. Amazing stuff. And I'm 50. We explore every crack and crevace. Part of her pre-session is to run her tongue between my toes .... sheesh....
So the smell is not necessarily a "un-clean soiled body." I'm certain that in some cases it is, but don't mistake the sweet smell of Latina Muchacha Sweat with that of a dirty body. Check her out at the table or just plain out take your chances but get to know the different aromas, they're not all bad.
I had one street walker who wanted me to land on skidmarks. I was drunk, it was late, I was horny and the price was right. Different smell. If you want to get an idea of what it smells like then take a dump on a newspaper and then come back in several hours.
Ahem.........
I am surprised that I don't read more about Salma de HK. The chica "America" is all over the boards so I'm not surprised she's mis-behaving. Salma is a good old fashoned working girl who is VERY clean and she is also a great session. I miss her.
Looks like the "Y" generation is changing the character of the Zona. Sorry to see it go.
Happy sessions.
Country John
The ped line was all the way back to the taxi drop point and did not seem to be moving much. A guy came by and offered a bus ride for $2.00. The line was so long that I thought that it would take forever to make it through so I went for it.
In just a few minutes the line had shrunk dramatically. By the time the bus got near the building entrance the line had shrunk so much that the line was only a few people past the entry.
I don't know if the bus saved me that much time or not. I thought it would be better to be sitting down on the bus waiting as opposed to standing in such a long line.
How did the end of the line go from the drop point to the building entrance so fast?
A couple weeks back I found the line like this as well but on my last trip it was so freakin' long it actually rapped back around into the street because that sidewalk ends about 40 yards further than where the Taxi drops you off. I couldn't believe it, actually nobody could believe it! Thankfully it only took about 30 minutes but I was tempted to take that bus as well, just so I could sit down if nothing else. In terms of the line length, they sometimes stop the line from moving where the first US officer stands, where the barriers start. If they slow it down for even 10 minutes it can drive the line back in size but in terms of time it will still move the same.
[QUOTE=El Putero]Be careful if you visit La Carreta (spelling?) Bar in the middle of and on the south side of the alley in TJ. Like many places, they have men outside loudly encouraging people to enter and I decided to see what was going on inside. Unfortunately I allowed my cock instead of my brain to control my actions and ended up wasting a lot of good money. But maybe I can at least warn other mongers to stay away from the place, or to at least use more sense than I did. After I settled at the bar a cute looking girl came and sat down next to me. Although I drank only mineral water, she asked me to first buy her a few drinks. As expected the drinks were very expensive. While she was with me she got me really turned on, and then I paid the bar $40 to allow me to take her to a room they had upstairs. The price includes thirty minutes and about four or five beers. The rooms are very small and dark; measuring about 6 feet by about three feet, and contain a small reclining sofa. Once inside, the girl wanted $50 for herself. Using my cock to make the decisions, and really wanting to do this girl, I forked over the money. From here on things only got worse. Not only did the cramped room make getting it on difficult, but the girl’s pussy smelled. Being a clean person myself, I find a smelly pussy completely unbearable and a complete turn off. After doing her in two positions and not enjoying the experience, I thanked her for her time and then left the bar. My advice is to either not go into this place, or to use extreme caution and common sense. For the money I spent in there I could have enjoyed the company of at least three of the street girls or at least have a great time with one of the main bars like the Chicago Club or Adilita’s[/QUOTE]
Guys, those of you who know my posts know that I am a more than reasonable person. I am willing to put up with a lot in TJ based on the fact that I am in a foreign country, and I expect to be taken for a ride sometimes. In general, I am polite and agreeable, often buying drinks for Mexican gentlemen that I have only just met simply for the sake of international relations.
Out of all the places I have visited in TJ, La Carretera is by far the biggest ripoff (outside of Avenida Revolucion, which is another story altogether). I don't know what attracted me to the this place to begin with, but I visited on three separate occaisons and all of them were negative. I generally like to get a number of data points before drawing any conclusions, and I can honestly tell all of you that there is absolutely nothing of any redeeming quality to be found at La C. The barkers are brash and full of big talking nonsese, the girls are sometimes hot, but go more dead fish than any SG I have ever been with, and even the waitresses (who sometimes can be hot) try to Ficha Fuck you to buy them drinks.
There are a lot of shitholes in TJ, and believe it or not I actually enjoy visting some of them (it's a vastly different experience than AB or CC, but no less rewarding once you know what you are doing.) At many of them, the girls and the serving staff (who cater mainly to locals) actually appreciate a humble gabacho who just wants to stop by for a drink or two and shoot the breeze and practice his Spanish. But not La C. This place is to be avoided at all costs. It's on the Blue Nose Shit List, and that's pretty hard to do. I won't go into all the details, but you have to work pretty hard to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off (come on Country John - back me up here!!).
Stay away from this place or, if you do venture in, keep a tight grip on your wallet. If something seems too good to be true, it probably is. I won't comment on the whole stinky pussy issue, except to say that if it is enough to turn you off then you probably made the right choice by getting out of there. Keep an open mind, sure, but if it smells like blue cheese then call it a night!
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Country John] Our sessions are full on porn style and usually last 2 hours. Amazing stuff. And I'm 50. We explore every crack and crevace. Part of her pre-session is to run her tongue between my toes .... sheesh....
I am surprised that I don't read more about Salma de HK. The chica "America" is all over the boards so I'm not surprised she's mis-behaving. Salma is a good old fashoned working girl who is VERY clean and she is also a great session. I miss her.
Looks like the "Y" generation is changing the character of the Zona. Sorry to see it go.
Happy sessions.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Country John - Come on, man, you're making me jealous here!!! You're making us all jealous with these stories of your Mayan. Speaking as one who has also felt her sexual prowess, I can honestly say that you are a lucky guy!! As your pharmaceutical expert, I recommend that you increase to a double shot of Cialis once you hit 50 years of age. You'll need it with her.
Take care & hope to see you both soon,
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]Country John - Come on, man, you're making me jealous here!!! You're making us all jealous with these stories of your Mayan. Speaking as one who has also felt her sexual prowess, I can honestly say that you are a lucky guy!! As your pharmaceutical expert, I recommend that you increase to a double shot of Cialis once you hit 50 years of age. You'll need it with her.
Take care & hope to see you both soon,
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
Hey Blue Nose, did you make Guadalajara? I love that place, how did you do?Adela has been asking if I heard from you. I think she still has a soft spot for you (but you keep your hands to yourself). Let's hook up for a beer.
Believe it or not, she's getting better and better. I can't believe how sexy this girl is and how much she enjoys sex. Never met a girl like her. We've been living together for 8 moths (yes Senior Blue, EIGHT MONTHS) and it still feels like I just met her. "Wow" is all I can say.
Country John
Hello Everyone,
I have a business trip to San Diego on Tuesday (April 4th) and was planning to drive down to Tijuana immediately after arriving at the airport. Is it easy to park on the American side, walk across the border, and arrive at the street walkers. How far is the SW sceen from the border? Is it safe to walk around all by yourself between 10:00pm and midnight? Is there good quality SW pussy, or do you have to go to a club for a good lay. I like my SW's young and thin (legal age of course).
Simply put, I have lots of meetings the following morning, so I just want to cross the border after my flight arrives, and walk across the border for a quick fuck. Hopefully in-and-out in less than 1 hour.
I am just a couple days away from traveling over there, so any quick assistance would be appreciated.
Thanks
I have mongered for several decades and never seen anything quite like this. If you guys come and leave with your tails between your legs, please know that this is a very cruel place. However, it is also a very wonderful place. So here I am in TJ, loving and hating the place.
Most of my posts are in the Quito, Ecuador, Lima, Peru or Mexico City forums. But let me tell you TJ is a whole different game. I flew in Thursday morning on business from Guadalajara, which is a wonderful friendly city as Country John notes.
My advice, read these forums alot before coming. Be careful and have fun. But, also know if you get you get taken for a ride here, it is by the very best. This is not just a foreign country, it is a different planet! You are prey to these people, they hunt you. I am amazed at the hustles, cons, scams and danger of this place. And I am certainly not a novice. Here it is all about money, not soul.
If you are stupid they will get you. If you are smart you will have fun. Sorry to be preachy, but I have never seen anything quite like this. So, fellas have fun safely.
Wonderful, new, place, right on the edge of Zona Norte the prostitution zone. I took the most expensive room they had, which is the 5th floor, 2 king beds, nice kitchenette, plenty of hot water. $500 MN or $50 USD. They own another hotel right here in the zona. They are friendly though profession, the place is spotlessly clean, safe, chica friendly, and they look out for you. Nice view of the whole zona from my balcony which is great at night, like looking down on Sin City!
Nevertheless, there is noise from the mobile tuba bands the wander up and down the street playing and night. And during the day, the car repair shop to the east can start up their sanding machines. I brought a little white noise that masks the worst of it.
Calle Coahuila, No. 8168, corner of La Revolucion
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If you are stupid they will get you. If you are smart you will have fun.[/QUOTE]
Ahhhhhh, Guadalajara. How I miss the Plaza de Mariachi and my girley there. It's been a while.
The above says it all. Remember, these people are Pros. You are not. They do this all day, you do not. They practice their technique, you might for about 15 minutes or so during a glam slam. Also remember that the Zona Norte is home to a LOT of deported criminals and a lot of fugitives. Be very very careful. Drugs are rampant but concealed. Use common sense. I know it's difficult because you're going to have some great sex with some fabulous babes but control yourself when you're out and about.
Having said that there are some who will watch out for you, but NEVER rely on that.
Country John
1 pm thursday, having studied the excellent maps provided here by other mongers, i cruised the zone. couldnt believe the variety, some wonderful, some hideously fat and ugly. remember, more than half the clients here are lower income mexicans, who often like the mamacitas gorditas.
i settled on a girl named adriana from in front of the hotel mini. easily the cutest girl for miles. perched on 8 inch acrylic platform shoes she seemed about 5 feet 7 inches, 20 years old, extremely slender, b cups with wonderbra cleaveage to spare. has the distinctive, fine, features of spanish and indian blood from the sonora and sinaloa area. the indians there are not short and fat like in southern mexico. long, black hear, great smile....to die for. knew she was not going to be good in bed, because she seemed stuck on herself. but what the hell, for 20 minutes, its workable. i had only been in town and hour and wanted to get off.
price was $20 usd con ropa, mish only. the room was adequate and cost about $7 usd. she put on the condom, laid down and i buried the willie. she keep trying to cover her breasts and face with her forearms. i stopped banging and explained to her that our mutual goal was for me to come quickly, to which she agreed. i said my viewing her cleavage and face would speed the process along. she said, no i cant. so i said ok, chica, then ill just have to bang longer and harder. she nodded here head ok and then tried to cover her breasts as best she could.
then i really started in on her hard and fast, kind of like a tire repair shop. the only smell was that of burning rubber. finally, when i was about to cum, i had her finish me by hand, and by then she was happy to do. i just wanted to get a little involvement from her. in summary, i would not recommend her unlesss you are looking for an american gfe! or, a chance to fuck a beauty queen.
friday, 5 am i woke up with a raging hard on, so, i looked off the balcony of the hotel and could see a few street girls. went out and found [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url], at the northwest corner of avenida consitution and articulo 123 aka calle 1. she is 18 years old, i had to ask because she looked younger, a slender, morena, long black hair, dressed in jeans and a red sweater. she had just shown up for work, all of her family back in zacatecas thinks she works the early shift at an industrial plant. the price was $25 desnudo and $5 for multiple positions.
she took me to a no name hotel she uses which was $6. she was friendly, fun and we connected well for 20 to 25 minutes. when i came, she looked my right in the eyes and said, aye, papi, ven, ven! i looked for her again this morning but could not find her. maybe she only works weekdays. all said, it was much better than wanking willie first thing in the morning. nice gal!
My last business stop on Thursday around 1 PM, was at the office of an associate near Avendia Rodriquez and Paseo De Los Heroes in the south of TJ. I came out of the office and crossed the steet to a waiting taxi. He said I cant take you, I am waiting for someone, a girl. I said, fine, but since there are no other taxis around would you consider taking me to El Centro, if the girl will agree to share the taxi. He agreed and so did the girl, when she came out.
She is this hottie, dressed in a pink t'shirt, diamond accented shades, and a cute girlie baseball cap. I thought to my self, this is to good to be true! She looks like a showgirl. I said where you going and she said El Centro and we began to chat, her in English and me in Spanish.
She had been at a lawyers office arranging her legal papers for her upcoming marriage to a gringo next week. My heart sunk! I congratulated her and she told me she worked here and over in San Felipe, but never told me what she did. When we got to El Centro, she suggested I stay at the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago, which she said was a nice palce. I said, what a coincidence, that is where I am headed. We got out, I picked up the taxi tab, and she split into the quickshop store under the hotel. That was that.
Later, I saw her carrying in bags a groceries and she never gave me a second glance. The head clerk and I talked, he knows her and said the hubbie to be was comming down for this weekend and they stay together in the hotel.
So, future hubbie, if you are reading this, and you might be because you stay at this hotel, please know your bride resisted the charms of a Ricky Martin look alike. Actually, Im an old bald guy. But, anyway, I wish you the very best in your marriage. Mexicanas are great wives.
About mid afternoon, I trolled through half a dozen club just looking, chatting up the ladies quickly, but not buying drinks and just kept moving. Many times this amounts to just working fast and trying to avoid the fucking waiters who are always trying to seat you and sell you a drink.
I like to hover around the door to the ladies dressing bath room. Often, if there is an old lady attendant at the door, I start up a conversation. Anyway, I knew HK has a reputation of being waste of time. However, out pops Maria from the ladies room. She is about 5 feet 5 inches in heels, slender, small boobs, 30 ish, half Mexican, half african blood, short, black, jelled back hair, dressed in a white lace bra and panties. And imagine this, she actually had a personality!
We chatted and caressed, standing there together. Without bothering to buy any over priced drinks, we agreed to a privado for $20 USD. Generally, these are only two songs, but she told the cubicle attendent I was her friend and not to bother us until we came out. Generally, I think privados are a waste of time. But this was, as I had expected because of our chemistry, really fine. We got one of the back stalls on the third floor and I was shocked at what she began to do. After all, she had assured me right in front of the attendant that there was only to be dancing and no sexo.
She stripped and only kept her heels on. Then, began practically climbing the walls right over my head and unsuspecting eyes. I began to nibble and kiss her long slender black legs, Im sure if I had wanted to she would have let me eat her. I resisted, but finger fucked her. She dropped to my lap and her wet pussy was right on my engorged Willie, only Levi Strauss was in the way. I sucked her boobies, etc. She started humping me and I just about came. Well, three long slow songs is about 20 minutes. When we left the booth, I held my businss jacket waist high to hid the wet spot. Nice!
I negotiated to come back at the end of her shift, 8 PM, to take her to my hotel for an hour for $90. When I came back and looked for her, the mamasan at the ladies room, told me she had just left with a high roller wearing a lot of pinkie rings! Well, to bad, she will never know what she missed out on!
I dont recommend HK, but I just got very lucky. I have not been back.
After the club HK scene, I went to the hotel and changed my trousers. Then, off to the Tropical, which seemed a little less high pressure than most. I trolled though, smiling and chatting to the girls. One had a beautiful, welcoming smile, so, we started hugging and talking. Her name was Maria, about 5 foot 4 inches in heels, dark complexion, a little chunky but not at all fat, hair dyed to brunette, almost blond, 30ish. B cups.
I decided she was the one, so we got a table and drinks. We danced together three songs. I dont remember how much the drinks were, but I do remember thinking that it was reasonable. We negotiated a session for $45 for one half hour, she started out at at $60. I payfully worked her down from there, as she liked me. The room was around $10 or $12, and I tipped the cleaning guy $1. I tipped her a $5 afterwards.
In the room she became my dream woman, beginning with a little strip tease and CBJ. Nice hugs and then penetration in two positions. She really gave me 100% and climaxed herself twice. She actually had a couple of massive pussy contractions, so I think it was real. I would highly recommend this gal. She always sets at the bar, on the lefthand side.}
I negotiated $80 for her to come to my hotel after her shift at 10 30 PM, but when I went back then, she said it would cause problems with management. She lives right there in the hotel on site. They want her to sell drinks not do out calls. Possibly just an excuse, or possibly the truth. Oh, well on to the next one.
I just back from a romp last night I met up a girl that looked like Terry Hatcher in her early 30's she had a hard body on her not a strech mark or an ounce of fat, she was drop dead georgous. Lucia had enhanced 34d's and look like a 10.
You can always tell when you hit the jackpot is you walk outside with a girl and all the men standing outside start cat calling the girl. After a quick hop upstairs in the room she started to become very playfull and started to exchange kisses and started DFK and mutual rubing and ouching we started to undress each other and on to the bed it continued, until it was time she started with a cbj, which was phenominal and was playin with the boys at the same time which almost made me cum, but I stoped and changed postions we stated in mish for a bit and the switched to doggie just the sight of this hard body was too much I lost it, I wish I could of went longer but what the hell theirs always next week.
I'll be back for a repeat. The total cost for the girl and the room was 72. 00 what a bargin, for a escort with her looks is about 350. 00 or more up in LA area.
After I leave town, I will tell you about this gem. Right now, I dont want any competition for you guys!
I have been mongering a few days here in TJ and it has all blurred together. I wanted to write all these, before I get it all confused.
My God! Guys when I tell you about Lorena, you will all beat a path to her door. She is a much need alternative to the meat available in the Zona Norte. Im sure one of you will end up marrying her! I wish I didnt know better, or, I would myself.
More to cum on Lorena. I like to titilate you guys. Ok, I just gave you two clues. Can you imagine what we did
There are several different types of cabs, the yellow cabs are the most expensive. The smaller white cars, with the red stripes, have Taxi Libre written on the side. They are cheap, only $10 or $20 pesos to about anywhere you want to go.
Also, there are these huge old 1960s and 70s stationwagons with the jump seat in the rear. They run on a set route throughout town. They cost about $7.5 pesos, less than a dollar. They are safe and you get to meet a lot of people. Dont worry about getting lost, they always return to where you started and you can get an hour tour of the city this way. Granted, it does not take you anywhere interesting, but is a good break from mongering.
In any other town in Mexico, I could have gotten some non pro action from this, but not here. The women here are either working girls, reserved, or a bit suspicous. Nevertheless, these taxis are a great slice of life here.
In the few days I have been here, I have witnessed several nasty situations with the police. Sometimes, they sweep through the zone in groups of 4 or 5 squad cars and pickup trucks, with a dozen officers. Walk quickly, dont run, to the nearest shop, coffe shop, pharmacy, etc. Dont go in a club then, unless you have to. Get inside somewhere quickly and start talking with the store owners, who are very understanding of your need to be off the streets when the police come through. They are either going to do a search in a club or bust some bad, drug, dudes on the street.
I talked to one Mexican guy, who told me he once bought a chica and vanished into a short time hotel with her, just to quickly get off the street, during a police sweep. He said she was actually a pretty good screw because they had one thing in common, they both hated the cops.
Also, never look at a cop. Look straight ahead and keep walking if you pass by one. Dont carry Viagra as they can shake you down and accuse you of drug possession. They are really only looking for a bribe, usually. I saw and overhead and American getting this treatment.
Also, no open booze bottles in the streets. Last night, coming out of Adelitas I saw a American getting the treatment from three cops for this. To his credit, the Adelitas bouncer, barker ran over and grabed the bottle back and told the cops to beat it. The drunk American then started bitching at the Adelitas guy for taking his beer! God, he should have dropped to his knees and thanked the guy.
Well enough of this writing and posting. Im getting the hell out of the cyber cafe and get after what TJ is all about, that being PUSSY! Late guys.
Hey M/Lunch, save some for the rest of the mongers! Great Trip reports. Great sessions. Sounds like you got your game working, good stuff.
A word about the cops: Remember that the Zona is a major stopping point for many criminals recently deported from the USA, (guys and girl) and there are a lot of your garden variety street people.
If the cops wern't there, there would be a lot more crime against us mongers. For all the bad reporting on the cops (every word is true) they do a lot to keep it as safe as possible.
Every day or so they do "sweeps." Looking for druggies and just to harrass the street people, keep tabs on them etc. Also if a walker hasnt paid her mordita then she could spend a night in the slammer.
It's wise to have a seat when this is going on. It's harmless to Americano Gringos, but DO NOT hang out with any street person, especially when the sweeps are going on. Thes people can hurt you. If they got drugs on them then the cops might think you're buying etc.
Just use your head.
Keep 'em coming Munchie, It soulds great.
Country John
I flew out of TJ early this morning and am now in Mexico City getting ready for a business meeting tomorrow. I appreciate your reasoned and more objective post about the Policia. Yes, the Zona in TJ is full of strange and dangerous types who would target us mongers if the Policia were not there. They, maintain a strong post on the east end of the "Alley" and we should give them some credit. As I hang with Mexicans, it is the custom to complain about the Policia; or, as they say "Robbers with a badge." For the most part, Policia in the Zona are harmless for us if you just stay smart and off their radar screen.
if you just get tired of the barkers, hustlers, dealers, and filth of the "zona" and "la revolucion", treat yourself to the "other" tj. tj is not at all a good tourist destination. however, there are a few things to do while you are waiting for your sperm count to recover from your last conquest.
the best place is probably along paseo de los heroes where it intersects with avenida independencia and forms a huge traffic circle. this is a new part of town and hosts the tijuana cultural center/imax theatre, the plaza rio shopping mall with two modern multi-plex theateres. this is only a $5 - 6 usd taxi ride from the zone in a taxi libre.
also, one of my favorite places in tj, except for a hooker's crotch, was el mercado hidalgo, which is a fairly large, typical mexican public market. you will find everything there: produce, spices, open air food stands (not recommedned), pinatas for sale, groceries, pottery, etc. they have a few artesania things for sale: sarapes, leather stuff, etc. at prices much lower than the stores on "la revolucion." it is quite safe there and is open from sun up to sun down. again, there is nothing special there; just a nice slice of mexico.
also, part of my typical modus operandi is hitting public markets for non pro action. over the years, i have found more than a few diamonds in the rough at these places. the reason being, a lot of the stands there are run by women, the shoppers tend to be women; either the young maids of rich families or just the housewives of middle/lower class families. many times they are up for a movie, a drink, dancing or a dinner with a foreigner. that can be very exciting for these gals. if handled correctly they understand what the price of dinner is and are often great lovers.
just be careful not imply either explicitly or implicitly, that you are looking for more than just fun; that would be dishonest. i'm usually don't try to kiss or feel them up right away; however, as the evening progresses and they feel comfortable with you, they let you know when.
Just south of the border, but north of the river, is the new Pueblo Amigo Inn (a nice but expensive hotel) and Plaza Pueblo Amigo. Right there are some more upscale drinking/dancing places than you would find on "La Revolucion". They include Club Balak, Senor Frogs, etc - higher class Mexicans go there.
Also, on "La Revolucion" at about Calle (Street) 9th or 10th, is a club called "Las Pulgas". All my Mexican friends said it was good for dancing.
I had a very good time in TJ, but probably won't go back. There are too many strange, dangerous, demented, poorly dressed, calloused people there. Also, it is all about money: con artistis, clock watching hookers, etc. I much prefer farther south in Mexico, where it is unspoiled, the people are more warm, friendly, honest, much cheaper, etc. As a rule, farther into the main part of Mexico the P4P girls are friendlier and more eager to please.
Here is my take: If you live in So. California, meaning a short drive, it probably makes sense to go to TJ. I sure would if I lived in So. Cal; as TJ is really is the WalMart of pussy. However, to me, it would not make sense for someone to drive a full day or fly in to San Diego to go to TJ.
For someone, like you guys in the midwest; flying to Monterrey, Mexico for some quick pussy would be a good alternative to TJ. Its cleaner, cheaper, safer, and the women are generally fun.
Also, if you have a bit more time, speak even a little Spanish, and want to experience mexican culture, I like the following:
Veracruz - great tropical music in the clubs, full of beautiful, hot, mulatto/negro girls; but its a crummy seaport and Mexican naval station. (i.e. which sailor's wife did you get to fuck this time?)
Xalapa, Morelia, Queretero - Are beautiful, colonial, university cities. (i.e. which virginal, model quality, college girl do you want to train to swallow your cum in exchange for tuition money?)
Guadalajara - My favorite city, usually get a GFE experience there.
Well, that's all for now. Thanks to all who posted previously. Your comments made my trip to TJ much safer, comfortable, and productive in scoring "chicas".
Munchi is right on the mark.
You have to think of TJ as a "Pay for Play" as much downside as upside. The dynamics are greater in TJ than almost anywhere else. (Except maybe at the Bar Galleon in Guadalajara.)
The Zona is a sex machine. You enter one end with your money and an erection, you emerge out the other end with no money. The erection is optional. You have to have an understanding of how things work in Mexico in order to fully appreciate that, but just take my word for it for now.
Mexican women are not lined up at the border waiting to screw you when you come across. Mexican women are a beautiful and proud group. One thing I LOVE about them is that they are FULLY in touch with their sensuality and sexuality. A passing glance is usually returned with a faint smile. I find them to be very warm to the touch. The girls in the Zona WORK there and their job is to have sex with you for money.
The avarage Mexican girl will be polite and plesant, you would not ask her to go "up" usually.
The girls love to dress to please rather than to impress. While there is a line you do not cross, there is never any harm in letting the girl know she is beautiful and most appreciate the compliment.
I loved Monterrey and Culiacan. The women are fantastic and a different feel. I lost my heartt in Guadalajara. Ahhhhhh Guadalajara.
But the Zona is "all business." You arrive, you pay, you cum, you leave. Some vets hang out and play cards in the hotel room between runs. There are a lot of them, many are nice guys and a lot of fun.
It's a Zona alright. Complete with do's and don'ts. It can be a fun experience if you are prepared and a heartbreak if not. So be prepared. Read the board, ask questions.
Good luck Munch. Have fun and check in.
Country John
I agree with your last report. Personally if I didn't live so close I wouldn't think of going down but maybe a couple times a year, if that! If you haven't been it is fun to go and check out but to be honest it trully isn't that great. I see many here talk about how hot the girls are, the low prices, etc.. and I still haven't seen it. I maybe a little biased because I don't find the Mexican girls, well at least the ones I see in Northern Mexico, to be that pretty. Many have bellies, straight figures, no ass, no tits, and so on. Obviously the girls who travel from other areas help out and will definitely notice them working in the clubs, AB being the main attraction.
Next comes the attitudes and experience you get from these girls. You would think that many would show you a good time but from my experience I would say about 5-10% will treat you like you want to be treated, no matter the price you pay. I don't mean paying extra for a girl to suck your nuts but finding a girl who will give you a GFE experience, or close to it, seems almost impossible unless you get lucky. Also a lot of the girls register 10's on the ***** meter and for no reason really other than they are just that way. I know some guys treat them poorly but it is mainly the locals who I see gropping without paying and just being assholes in general.
Now comes these great prices people talk about which is really a bunch of crap. Think about this....You drive from LA so you pay $30 in gas, pay for parking is $5, taxis will cost you $10, a couple drinks is $8, some tale at AB is 60, room rental plus tip is $12, ******* knocking at your door in 20 flat..priceless lol no really add this up and you just paid $125 to spend 20 minutes with a girl, which is $375 an hour for your selection of hotties in the US who will give you a guaranteed hour, anything you want besides her ass, and without that drive. Don't get me wrong because I think US girls mainly over-charge as well but I am just giving an example of the true numbers here and this is almost guaranteed GFE. Of course in the US you must worry about LE but in TJ you must worry about getting robbed, shaken down, etc... so I would say it is worse knowing you are never really safe in TJ.
Anyway this is just my opinion on TJ and others will be different. Personally I am not going back for a while because I would rather save my money and travel.
Having made a couple of trips to TJ, I could not agree with California Guy more. It just isn't that great to me. And both times I ended up with chicas that put up a pretty good effort, but by the time you add up the total cost of the journey, the risks associated with TJ crime and corruption, the hassle of dealing with TJ police and criminals (often one and the same), not to mention occasionally moody customs agents when returning to the states. Plus, there is the general seediness of TJ environment...cheap hotels, dirty streets...I just don't see it as being anything special. Maybe some guys get turned on more by the seediness, but I guess that just isn't me.
At the end of the day, I'd rather spend $500 for an hour with a premium quality American call girl in a nice hotel or the comfort of my own home. Part of it is just a matter of personal preference for me, and the fact that even though some of he TJ girls are pretty hot, they'll never measure to a classy All-American girl in my book. The only advantage TJ has in my book is being able to see a broad selection of girls right before your eyes instead of having to pick one from an ad or website.
Obviously, for some guys, TJ is a great experience but for me, it is like the sex equivalent of fast food: yeah if you're hungry, it'll fill your belly, and some of it tastes alright, but it will never compare to sitting down for a steak at a five-star restaurant.
[QUOTE=California Guy]I agree with your last report. Personally if I didn't live so close I wouldn't think of going down but maybe a couple times a year, if that! If you haven't been it is fun to go and check out but to be honest it trully isn't that great. I see many here talk about how hot the girls are, the low prices, etc.. and I still haven't seen it. I maybe a little biased because I don't find the Mexican girls, well at least the ones I see in Northern Mexico, to be that pretty. Many have bellies, straight figures, no ass, no tits, and so on. Obviously the girls who travel from other areas help out and will definitely notice them working in the clubs, AB being the main attraction.
Next comes the attitudes and experience you get from these girls. You would think that many would show you a good time but from my experience I would say about 5-10% will treat you like you want to be treated, no matter the price you pay. I don't mean paying extra for a girl to suck your nuts but finding a girl who will give you a GFE experience, or close to it, seems almost impossible unless you get lucky. Also a lot of the girls register 10's on the ***** meter and for no reason really other than they are just that way. I know some guys treat them poorly but it is mainly the locals who I see gropping without paying and just being assholes in general.
Now comes these great prices people talk about which is really a bunch of crap. Think about this....You drive from LA so you pay $30 in gas, pay for parking is $5, taxis will cost you $10, a couple drinks is $8, some tale at AB is 60, room rental plus tip is $12, ******* knocking at your door in 20 flat..priceless lol no really add this up and you just paid $125 to spend 20 minutes with a girl, which is $375 an hour for your selection of hotties in the US who will give you a guaranteed hour, anything you want besides her ass, and without that drive. Don't get me wrong because I think US girls mainly over-charge as well but I am just giving an example of the true numbers here and this is almost guaranteed GFE. Of course in the US you must worry about LE but in TJ you must worry about getting robbed, shaken down, etc... so I would say it is worse knowing you are never really safe in TJ.
Anyway this is just my opinion on TJ and others will be different. Personally I am not going back for a while because I would rather save my money and travel.[/QUOTE]A lot of what you report is true but my math is a little different. I'm in LA for business about 5 times a year and always try to wind it up by Friday afternoon. I make my flight home for Sunday afternoon so I can shoot down to TJ for the weekend. For around $500 I get a room for 2 nights, eat and drink all I want, and get laid as many times as I can handle. You can spend that much any weekend on just a so so room at any major US city.
You are right about the dangers. There's a hustler on every corner so it's very important not to put yourself in bad positions. They didn't invent rolling drunks in TJ and you wouldn't want to walk alone in a run down, depressed, or dark area of TJ or of any inner US city for that matter. I've been down a bunch of times and never had a real problem with the street guys and never had so much as a sideways glance from a cop. Maybe I'm just lucky or maybe because I grew up in a rough neighborhood I've acquired a knack for avoiding LE and the other dangers of places like this. (Hey, now where would that fit on my today's corporate resume.) The TJ cops have plenty to do with all the young, drunk, both Mexicans and Americans, acting like idiots, putting the spot light on themselves. Besides if there was trouble with a TJ cop I'd rather pay a bribe then read about my hobby in my local paper like you can at home. The thugs are looking for stumbling drunks and people wandering off away from any witnesses. The hustles are just trying to sell you something. A polite but firm no thanks will send them off. If your smart, stay around populated areas, don't get stumbling drunk, don't make a spectacle of your, and keep aware of your surroundings, you'll be, for the most part safe. Hell, you could get mugged at home leaving church or hit by lighting walking on a nature trail. No place is completely safe.
I have a thing for young, exotic, mostly natural women and always have a great time in TJ. I like being on foreign soil and like the atmosphere of TJ. Eating off the carts, drinking in the local bars, finding those "carbon" restaurants and ending in the Zona F--king my brains out. I agree it's not the best place to find a GFE with these girls. Hell, if I take my girlfriend out on a Friday and only spent 30 bucks I doubt I'll get a GFE. Sure some of the girls just lay there and watch the clock but also some give good service. If your looking for a GFE go to the DR, I've been there or, from what I've read, go to Brazil. If you're looking for some good old sport f--king that's close, TJ a good spot.
Be Safe,
Rider Jay
I'll be the first to talk about the pitfalls of TJ, but overall I have a good time. I've had the cops take 300 from me and 200 from my friend, and lost 40 on another trip. I still go down, but not as much as I once did. I've been lucky enough to have had a few GFE experiences and if I wanted that I would repeat with them, but for me I'm more interested in trying a new chica. :) I frequent AB and would sometimes have a warm up session on the street. I almost always go during the day and by myself. I don't have any problems with the locals after saying "No thanks." I'm learning to be cautious with the polica after my past experiences. Overall I like TJ, but I can't wait to try some other countries after reading info on this form. :) Thanks for all the info and happy mongering.
Previous posters have made some great points for and against the Zona.
I too like the young, exotic, natural chicas. I am drawn to the SG's the most. That's where I most often find the FOB types that I like. Alas, they often do not provide the best GFE service, far from it.
I am not really looking for a GFE anyway, (I've got that). I look for the most beautiful young women that I can find for that trophy/sport fuck.
If I want to be pampered I go to my favorite 20 something AMP provider and she takes care of me, better than most GF's.
I think it's the anticipation of hitting the zona, on the prowl for the next new FOB hottie, that appeals to me the most. Stateside with an escort you know what you're getting, (if you do your research). In TJ I have a live flesh smorgasbord awaiting me, only a15 minute drive away. That’s the allure of the Zona.
My TJ tabs is usually is this:
$9.00-Parking
$10.00-Cab
$5.50-Hotel
$30.00-SG, sin ropas.
$ 54.50
[QUOTE=Munch Lunch]Here is my take: If you live in So. California, meaning a short drive, it probably makes sense to go to TJ. I sure would if I lived in So. Cal; as TJ is really is the WalMart of pussy. However, to me, it would not make sense for someone to drive a full day or fly in to San Diego to go to TJ.[/QUOTE]
Munch Lunch - Great Trip Reports! Thanks for sharing. You're not the first guy to compare the zone to a sex Wal Mart. In fact, if Wal-Mart ran la zona norte it would probably look and operate very much like it does now, albeit with better lighting. There is something for everybody in TJ, and I think the trick is to figure out what you like and where you can get it in the zone for the best price. Lots of guys here like to bang hot SGs or go for the trophy porno-fuck from ABs. Others, like me, enjoy the semi-pros and prefer the true GFE latina experience that can only come from being a regular with a girl.
In my opinion, Mexican women are the sexiest women on the planet (a bold statement, I know, but one of opinion rather than fact). Their down-to-earth and simple personalities capture my heart and their raw sensuality takes my breath away. Every time. TJ is both a blessing and a curse for those of us who live in California, for no matter what your idea of an ideal time in TJ is, it is almost certain that it cannot be easily replicated north of the border.
Now that you're gone, can you give us the 4-1-1 on Lorena?
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Lascivious]Previous posters have made some great points for and against the Zona.
I too like the young, exotic, natural chicas. I am drawn to the SG's the most. That's where I most often find the FOB types that I like. Alas, they often do not provide the best GFE service, far from it.
I am not really looking for a GFE anyway, (I've got that). I look for the most beautiful young women that I can find for that trophy/sport fuck.
If I want to be pampered I go to my favorite 20 something AMP provider and she takes care of me, better than most GF's.
I think it's the anticipation of hitting the zona, on the prowl for the next new FOB hottie, that appeals to me the most. Stateside with an escort you know what you're getting, (if you do your research). In TJ I have a live flesh smorgasbord awaiting me, only a15 minute drive away. That’s the allure of the Zona.
My TJ tabs is usually is this:
$9.00-Parking
$10.00-Cab
$5.50-Hotel
$30.00-SG, sin ropas.
$ 54.50[/QUOTE]Lascivious, that was much better said then I did in my long winded post. You're lucky. You can take a 15 minute drive any time you want. Sport F--k, and then go home. Repeat in a day, a week, a month or any time you want something new. I also like something new. I often pass a SG that I know provides great service to try one I haven't seen before just because she's fine and new. Sometimes it's the right choice and sometimes it's a dead fish. Shit, for $35 including room it's worth the gamble even if it's the wrong choice. Worst thing that can happen is I’ll still get to bust a nut and, if they aren't too enthusiastic, it only takes me longer and in the end makes them work harder.
I always the put my credit cards and jewelry away and hit the ATM for $500 just before I head across. That's why I put my TJ tab for the $500 but I never come home empty so maybe that numbers a little high. Let me break down my TJ tab:
$180 for 6 SG's at $30 a rattle for suky, fuky, sin ropa (2 on Fri., 3 on Sat., since I have all day and night, and 1 on Sun. morning before I scramble to the airport.)
$30 - Rooms for enjoying the 6SG's.
$100 - Room "to sleep in" for 2 nights
That leave $190 for a few $1 tacos off the street carts, many $1 beers, a few $2 shots of tequila, a couple of $5 Cocktail de Cameron off the carts and maybe 2 chicken dinners at one of those sit down Carbon (cooked over wood charcoal) restaurants for a total of $20. Seems like a value to me.
Be Safe, Rider Jay
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]
Now that you're gone, can you give us the 4-1-1 on Lorena?
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
Blue Nose - I guess I can, but I was reluctant, because I was thinking about flying her into Mexico City for the weekend. However, my steady PFP is back from visiting her family in Veracruz.
Lorena can be found at bar Mexico Lindo on the north side of Calle 7 (Galeana) just west of Avenida Revolucion. It is the only bar in the middle of the block, has lots of Mexican tile on the front, and dark exterior lighting. It is a quiet, juke box, small bar for locals, although you may occasionally find a gringo there. Just walk in, walk around the bar a view the "chicas." There are usually only 4 or 5 there. Lorena is the only one worth a second look; most are either old or homely.
She is about 30 years old, slender (almost petite), 5' 1'', longer brunette (dyed) hair. She often dresses in a business, sport coat and rarely looks slutty. She works late afternoons, early evenings Tue - Sat and has Sun -Monday off. She is proud to never have worked in one of the "clubs", she doesn't get tons of clients (but at her prices she doesn't need many). She is totally GFE; that is if you could ever find a girlfriend who fucks like a mink!
After scoping out the merchandise, I sat at the u-shaped bar opposite Lorena and a safe distance from the ugly talent - who will try to distract you. I ordered a drink and told the bar keep, "One for the Senorita, over there." Upon receiving her drink, she nodded her head in appreciation and gave me a Julia Robert's smile. While not breaking eye contact with her, I walked over and sat by her. We chatted, we laughed, we hugged, we carressed. There was chemistry for us beyond what dollars can buy. It way just like picking up a business woman (non pro) in a Hilton hotel bar somewhere in Latin America.
The drinks were very cheap, can't remember, but less than 1/2 what the big clubs charge. To take Lorena out you pay the bar keep $15. No pressure for extra drinks. We settled on $100/hour, which was to begin after we arrived in my hotel room.
The Taxi Libre ride to the Hotel Santiago is about $15 pesos. Just hold her hand in the taxi, talk to her and don't get fresh yet. By the way she speaks no English, but I am bi-lingual. I told her that I might mention her to my friends who might not know Spanish. She laughed and said, just tell them to say "Hotel" (pronounced "Otel") and "cien dolares" ($100 USD). The rest is all body language!
Upon entering the room we turned down the bed, took each others clothes off, and took a good hot, sensual shower together. She has a solid 8 body, with perky "B" cup boobs, trimmed but not shaved pubis, and has no fat - just good thin hips and curvy butt.
In bed she was fabulous, as I said, we just had chemistry. Your mileage may vary. She seemed to be able to anticipate every need, every coming change of position, and just melted into my arms. BBBJ, on with the condom, five positions, DATY (I brought my own latex dental dam), she climaxed, and then I took the condom off and jacked to finish on her boobs as she lay beside me. She let me massage my cum into her tits and was not shy about it. Then, another nice shower. I noticed a slight wrinkle on her brow under the bright light as she put her make up back on; but other than that she could have been a 20-year old. (Nice, she puts the makeup back on after she gives you the entire hour of service.)
I escorted her back to the bar by taxi and discreetly gave her a $10 tip. I walked along the Avenida Revolucion, back to my hotel. I was a happy camper, walking along with my heart singing and my nut sack totally empty.
The next night, I spent 2 hours with her for $180. She was even more passionate and loving than the first night. We ended up going for about two and one-half hours; she never rushed me. Then, I gave her a $30 tip and took her back to the bar. I am sure I could have negotiated a better deal with her either night; but I sensed this was not the time to be "penny wise and pound foolish". I was absolutely right. I have paid $300 USD/hour for girls like her here in Mexico City.
OK, guys, not to bore you. Based on what she told me about what she likes and dislikes, if you want her to really get hot for you here are some tips. Take a shower and put on clean clothing before going to her bar; she doesn't like guys who smell like they have been clubbing and womanizing. Don't be drunk or high. Dress somewhat formally; I had on a nice sport coat, silk t-shirt, blue jeans, and nice shoes and belt - the Don Johnson/Miami Vice look; she loved it.
Take it slow with her and she will give you more than you expected. In summary, she is not a SG or calloused PFP that you have to force into positions, etc. Simply one of the kindest, most sexy, passionate, gals I have ever had. She will not take advantage of you or try to cheat you.
I hope your experiences with her are as good as mine where. Good luck!
Munchie, that's awesome. I know the girl (I think) same session very gfe but a solid business person. Interesting. That's the way my girley is every session and they just keep getting better. Very cool.
Country John
Swore I would never go back last year, but rules are meant to be broken. I actually had a lota fun this time. Surprisingly I was not harassed by policia and it seemed pretty quiet even for a Wed nite.
Decided to try “Peanuts and Beer” this time. I enjoyed the late night talent but I liked two other Revolution Ave. clubs better- “Beverly Hills” and “Aloha”. 2 private “hands on” dances for 20 bucks standard at these clubs. Of course always the multitudes of ugly old fat slugs and bartenders acting as greedy, irritating, intermediaries to ruin the fun- one of the many things I hate about TJ. Some great talent at “Beverly hills” including one outstanding blonde. Mini dances stageside were outstanding by most of the dancers as they are trying to entice you into other activities.
There is a (new?) hotel at the corner of the alley (same side as Hong Kong) with wooden floors that is outstanding for 12 dollars. I would not go anywhere else for any price. I was not asked for a cleanup fee.
T-bolt
For a place to get an OUTSTANDING Professional massage- try VivaMex Day Spa very close to “Beverly Hills” on Revolucion. No sex available- Just a GREAT massage. “Norma” is recommended- not beautiful, but very competent. You can tell she has had some real training. VERY impressive facilities with nice relaxing music. 45 min for $25 USD.
No, I don’t work for them- I was just very impressed.
T-Bolt
This is not an advertisement Jackson, just info. I know the owner of the Spa, so I can vouch for the business. It is a TOTALLY LEGIT spa, no sex, no happy endings etc. The staff are professionally trained, well paid for there service and the company has high ethical standards. It is American owned and the restaurant downstairs is also the same business.
Patronize the place. It is a considerable investment by the owner and the service reviews are fantastic.
Country John
I can vouch for the spa it is totally legit. Very nice massage I went last month I forget who I had but very profeesional and no sex. But it is nice to relax in the zona once in a while. Shower was offered but I did not partake
"We settled on $100/hour, which was to begin after we arrived in my hotel room."
That's crazy man. It is Mexico, and although close to the USA it is still Mexico. Who pays 100 dls. in TJ? it is foolish no matter how good a service you get.
Don't ruin it. Pay according to local customs.
[QUOTE=Guillela]"We settled on $100/hour, which was to begin after we arrived in my hotel room."
That's crazy man. It is Mexico, and although close to the USA it is still Mexico. Who pays 100 dls. in TJ? it is foolish no matter how good a service you get.
Don't ruin it. Pay according to local customs.[/QUOTE]
That really is a steep price for Tijuana, but I also remember that Mexico Lindo providers charge a premium on their pussy anyways. They've [u]always[/u] been much more expensive than the fuck factories at AB and Chicago, which may explain why you don't see nearly as many gringo mongers there. Of course the typical service there is also above and beyond anything you'd get at the other places, and Mexico Lindo tends to carry more 8's and 9's than the other places as well (they'd better, for the prices they charge).
Don't worry, those prices he quoted are pretty much isolated to that particular overpriced bar so he hasn't ruined anything.
[QUOTE=Guillela]"We settled on $100/hour, which was to begin after we arrived in my hotel room." That's crazy man. It is Mexico, and although close to the USA it is still Mexico. Who pays 100 dls. in TJ? it is foolish no matter how good a service you get. Don't ruin it. Pay according to local customs.[/QUOTE]
Estimado Guillela & Smut Villain:
I certainly understand your concern, because I certainly don't like gringos throwing too much money after pussy. It ruins it for all of us. However, my payments and tips to the Mexico Lindo girl, both nights, were right on the market per local customs. That is exactly what my Mexican business associates pay. In fact, some of them have had Lorena. In TJ, for a close to model quality, out-call girl to come to your hotel for a full hour, that is the price. Some even pay more, if you get her from an agency or ad.
You will note in my other posts about my dealings with the girls in the "alley" or the club Tropical, I was very cost concious...as we all should be. It is all just a matter of what experience you are after. I too, like the variety and excitement of having a lot of "alley" girls. I also love an occasional romp (as someone here said earlier "a porn movie experience") with a looker from a club like Adelitas. In this trip, I had a little of everything and wanted to finish off my stay with a top shelf girl.
Nevertheless, bear with me here a little bit; we're all friends in this forum trying to help each other. Pricing can be deceiving; so, let's do some comparison shopping on naked girls on a hourly basis:
From the Alley or SW: $20 - $25 "con ropa" or $25 - $30 "sin ropa" (naked) for about 15 - 20 minutes of actual fuck time. Let's round this up to hourly increments: 20 min. x 3 sessions = 60 minutes. Thus, $30 x 3 = $90/hr. Plus, $7 for the hot sheet hotel. Total: $97/ hr.
Adelitas: Say $55 - $60 for about 20 or 30 minutes max. Thus, $55 x 2 = $110/hr or $55 x 3 = $165/hr. Plus, $12 - $15 for the room upstairs. Total: Somewhere between $125 - $180/hr.; let's split the difference and say $150/hr. (I'm being kind here to the club owners; because you will likely end up buying a few overpriced drinks before fucky sucky time with club girls.)
Mexico Lindo: $100 base cost/hr + $15 bar fine + taxi round trip $3 = $118/hr (Also, if you wanted to, you could throw in Lorena's drink and mine together were about $4 or $5 total.)
I left out tips, because that is entirely up to you. There are some other options in TJ, but the above three examples are the most common for most of us mongers. An hour's worth of pussy in TJ costs between $97 - $150/hr. I was at the lower to mid end of the range at $118/hr.
The real point here is that TJ is entirely a "rational" market. It is very competitve from both a buyers and sellers point of view. And there are few "bargains" or "special deals" to be had. It is WalMart. If you like variety, go with three street girls. If you like the exotic, club girls, go with them. If you want a near model quality girl in the relaxed comfort of your hotel room get a Lorena. I did all all three different experiences and enjoyed them all.
Whether you agree with me or not, we are dealing with business women here who price their product very consistently depending on the quality of the product and supply/demand. I really learned the above pricing in Asuncion, Paraguay and Lima, Peru. In Asuncion, you can get a street girl for $6 for a few minutes or an absolute top model quality girl for all night for $100 - $125. I did both. In Lima, at the famous brothels, you can get a girl for $7 for 15 minutes or an elegant call girl for $30/hr. In these brothels, the good looking girls can easily turn 20 - 25 tricks in an 8 hour shift.
Finally, there are health and saftey issues. Even if we use condoms, which protect us from the majority of STDs, were are exposed to things like herpes and even the common cold. The TJ club girls and street girls simply go through more clients than the Mexico Lindo girls do and the sanitary conditions are not as good. So, your odds on health are not as good.
I agee with the intention behind both of you gentlemen's comments: 1) don't overpay, 2) alway pay just what the local market is and not more, and 3) don't "damage" or overprice the market for your brothers who come in after you to play.
Nevertheless, depending on what you are looking for, pussy prices in TJ could vary widely per session; but are usually somewhat consistent on an hourly basis. Though I have not yet done so; I would actually pay $500/hr for a fuck hour with one of the former Miss Universe beauty participants - and there are some of these girls out there in the third world counties. But, I would also be quite happy to bury my Johnson in a TJ alley girl for $25 for 15 minutes. Neither pricing would be crazy or outside the regular, local, market parameters.
I monger with my business associates, who are natives of whatever country I am in, and have never been accused of overpaying. And believe me, these guys are very good. Most of them started mongering at age 15; rather than waiting until after a divorce or two like most of us US mongers did.
Well, Guillela and Smut Villain; thank you for your comments. Price is something worth debating here in the forum. Nevertheless, be sure not to compare apples to oranges.
Happy mongering.
Munch Lunch
After a couple of months, I finally made it down south. First went to adelitas to see what the renovations were. It does look nice but there is still something about the way it was that I liked.
There were only a few hotties so I got a drink and waited around. About 20 minutes later I see this blond hottie and I call her over and buy her a drink. I find out she is one of the Brazillian girls in town. I love brazillian girls so I take her up. She said it would be $60 and the money up front.
I told her I never pay up front. She kept insisting until she says if I don't pay up front it's over. Again I told her I don't pay up front and start to put my clothes back on. Once she sees me doing this, she said okay, for you, you can pay after, yea whatever. In the back of my mind I'am thinking this is not going to be any good. On the other hand, all the brazillian chicks I had in brazil were all gfe so what the heck.
To make a long story short, no kissing, no finger probes, covered everything. I got my rocks off with a hottie but no gfe at all, would I repeat, no! I can't remember her name but it was a unique one. She is about 5'4" with blond hair. She was wearing a bikini when I met her.
Feeling a little unsatisfied, I went over to T/b and Marielos was there. We went to the hotel and had a great time. Total gfe. I think this girl has some Brazillian blood in her. She just doesn't quit. Highly recommended.
After Marielos, I was drained and went home a happy camper.
On the earlier post, M l paid the going rate at M/L. I remember when M/L was the place to be and even back then, the going rate was $100 plus bar fine. This was when you could go to C/C and take a girl upstairs for $30.00.
Q
I like to think that I am as cost conscious as anyone. I agree 100% with Guillela's attitude, but I'm afraid he is not very current factually. There is relentless price creep in TJ as more US guys get up the nerve to find lifestyle alternatives. Munch Lunch's pricing analysis is pretty accurate. As he points out, US clients are often sadly naive, and free with their money.
If you take a look at craigslist you'll see that the going rate for TJ escorts is a pretty consistent $150/hr. Those guys are typically the least adventurous gringos who compare the prices against LA outcall services to convince themselves what a deal they're getting. Price creep.
Just to be even handed I'll point out that Munch Lunch may be overpaying a little at Adelitas. With the exception of the trophy fucks (almost always robot sex) if you stick to your guns just about any of the girls will go for $50. If you pay attention to exchange rates and are nimble in moving back and forth pesos/$$ you can often do 10% better than that. The problem is that many/most gringos won't stand their ground.
Last time down (Chicago club) I got a real hard sell from a very attractive chica. Gave me an unsolicited lap dance just to say hello. She quoted the standard $60, I countered $50. She acted all offended then went off and sulked. She kept circling the room, stopping to glare at me 2 or 3 times. I just smiled. After about an hour she came back and agreed to $50. Bargaining is war - play to win.
If this is the first time in TJ for Munch Lunch I'm very impressed. To hit the ground running like he did is not easy. Maybe even more impressive is his ability to find a gem at Mexico Lindo. This place seems committed to living on past glory. It was THE place some years back, priced accordingly. I don't think I've seen a doable girl there for years. Mostly older and larger ladies with delusions of grandeur on pricing. I think they keep the place as dark as the bat cave on purpose. Well done ML.
[QUOTE=hardbarg]IJust to be even handed I'll point out that Munch Lunch may be overpaying a little at Adelitas. With the exception of the trophy fucks (almost always robot sex) if you stick to your guns just about any of the girls will go for $50. If you pay attention to exchange rates and are nimble in moving back and forth pesos/$$ you can often do 10% better than that. The problem is that many/most gringos won't stand their ground.[/QUOTE]
Hardbarg,
Thank you for the kind words. I like your style. If we all stuck to our guns like you do, there would be a massive fall off in P4P prices in heavily used places like TJ. I did not actually use one of the gals at Adelitas; but was rather using that price more as a "typical" pricing that a monger might encounter in the clubs.
For my club girl experience, I went a block north to the Tropical. Generally, the girls there are not near as exotic as Adelitas. But, there were a couple of lookers and they were more eager for business. My gal started at $60 and we negotiated down to $45 and she generously gave me a full one-half hour or more of good care.
As you noted, we can just say no and wait a while. Generally, gals even in places like Adelitas, will circle back and be happy for the the $50. That is smart mongering. Treating these girls as the businesswomen they are, and bargaining hard, will not insult them; many times they will respect you and service you better.
My standard opening line, after a working girl quotes me an outrageous price, is to smile, and say "Quien soy yo, Carlos Slim?" When I say that, the girls instantly pick up on it, always laugh, and smile. Then we start playfully negotiating like good Latin business people. ("Quien" is pronounced "Key-In".) In English it means: "Who am I, Carlos Slim?" As most of you know, he is the billionare owner of Telemex and other companies. This year Forbes named him the third richest man on the planet. As you say, we gotta keep the US price creep out of TJ.
On another note, when I am in one location for several days, a goal of mine is generally to sample the entire smorgasborg (range) of chicas. In TJ, I bagged a SWG, Alley Girl, Club Girl, and an out-call girl. I came up short on a non pro girl. Made several good plays at public markets, movie theatres, grocery stores, shared taxis, etc. for non pros but came up short. Oh well, getting three out of four isn't bad and I left a happy camper.
Monday night I leave Mexico City for the states. Well, my happy johnson and the twins will have to wait another month, till my next biz trip south.
Happy mongering,
M. L.
[QUOTE=Thunderbolt47]For a place to get an OUTSTANDING Professional massage- try VivaMex Day Spa very close to “Beverly Hills” on Revolucion. No sex available- Just a GREAT massage. “Norma” is recommended- not beautiful, but very competent. You can tell she has had some real training. VERY impressive facilities with nice relaxing music. 45 min for $25 USD.
No, I don’t work for them- I was just very impressed.
T-Bolt[/QUOTE]Country John and others have vouched for this place and I agree. A professional 45 minute massage can really relax and loosen the muscles after all that walking around. For $25 plus a $5 tip it's a nice treat. I used to go to Aztec Massage on Revoution but it's located right over a loud club and it's way too noisy for a massage. This place is the same price but a much nicer and quieter set up. The girls aren't real pretty and it's non-sexual but, since you can't screw for 24 hours a day, (can you?) it's a great way to spend an hour.
Be Safe, Rider Jay
Civilians are a different story in Mexico. I've tried mongering in the free market and it's tough mainly because I don;t have the time to fuck with it. She's either going to go or she's not. Civilians don't have time.
Having said that, I want to add that I've met some of the most beautiful women I ever saw in the Mexican civilian world. My Lord, they are something else. They are a breed apart from Americana Gringas in almost every way.
If you have the time (and I'm talking TIME) then you can nurture a relationship with almost any mexican lady. If you're game is on and you're cool, you'll score but you'll inherit a relationship! Be careful!!
Country John
Hey guys,
Not only are the girls at Tropical not as "exotic" as the augmented hotties at Adelitas, but they are also way more innocent. Tropical is known for having the newest most innocent cuties from all over Mexico. I always make it a point to make it to Tropical. I have actually had the best sessions from tropical because the girls really want to have a better experience because they are more innocent than the other clubs. I LOVE TROPICAL!
[QUOTE=Munch Lunch]Hardbarg,
Thank you for the kind words. I like your style. If we all stuck to our guns like you do, there would be a massive fall off in P4P prices in heavily used places like TJ. I did not actually use one of the gals at Adelitas; but was rather using that price more as a "typical" pricing that a monger might encounter in the clubs.
For my club girl experience, I went a block north to the Tropical. Generally, the girls there are not near as exotic as Adelitas. But, there were a couple of lookers and they were more eager for business. My gal started at $60 and we negotiated down to $45 and she generously gave me a full one-half hour or more of good care.
As you noted, we can just say no and wait a while. Generally, gals even in places like Adelitas, will circle back and be happy for the the $50. That is smart mongering. Treating these girls as the businesswomen they are, and bargaining hard, will not insult them; many times they will respect you and service you better.
My standard opening line, after a working girl quotes me an outrageous price, is to smile, and say "Quien soy yo, Carlos Slim?" When I say that, the girls instantly pick up on it, always laugh, and smile. Then we start playfully negotiating like good Latin business people. ("Quien" is pronounced "Key-In".) In English it means: "Who am I, Carlos Slim?" As most of you know, he is the billionare owner of Telemex and other companies. This year Forbes named him the third richest man on the planet. As you say, we gotta keep the US price creep out of TJ.
On another note, when I am in one location for several days, a goal of mine is generally to sample the entire smorgasborg (range) of chicas. In TJ, I bagged a SWG, Alley Girl, Club Girl, and an out-call girl. I came up short on a non pro girl. Made several good plays at public markets, movie theatres, grocery stores, shared taxis, etc. for non pros but came up short. Oh well, getting three out of four isn't bad and I left a happy camper.
Monday night I leave Mexico City for the states. Well, my happy johnson and the twins will have to wait another month, till my next biz trip south.
Happy mongering,
M. L.[/QUOTE]
A lot of bad press about TJ/boarder area lately. Travel warnings on the news last night. A fourth kidnap victim. Brave mongers will persevere. Here's a vid news link if anyone is interested.
[url]http://www.kusi.com/news/local/2633326.html#[/url]
[QUOTE=Lascivious]A lot of bad press about TJ/boarder area lately. Travel warnings on the news last night. A fourth kidnap victim. Brave mongers will persevere. Here's a vid news link if anyone is interested.
[url]http://www.kusi.com/news/local/2633326.html#[/url][/QUOTE]
I think these have all been kidnappings on the US side right and they were taken to TJ? I only noticed the report on the link you posted.
There's something more going on here. All of the people involved had either ties to Mexico or businesses IN Mexico somehow. I wonder how many of these people involved didn't pay the right person a 'fee' or something similar. It's all very strange.
Oh shit, Kidnappings! Before I read the last few posts my biggest worry was trying not to get overcharged for P4P. I'm pretty sure your random monger is not the kidnappers biggest target but don't get me wrong, keep your eyes open. As I've said before, just like in any big city, stay aware of what's going on around you.
The last time Iwas in TJ was about 1 month ago and I couldn't help but notice the price creep that a few of you have been mentioning. 2 different SGs asked for $50 when I inquired about suky, fuky, sin ropa, 2 positions. $50, where do you go from there? In both cases I just shook my head and walked away. When they start that high I won't even humor them with negotiations. Even the often talked about Guadalupe asked for $40 for the 1st time. Of course after I smiled and said $30 was all I would pay, she agreed and gave me the usual good service. Since I'm always looking for something new I rarely repeat. This is one of the few girls that I see about every 3rd trip. She is very pretty and has a great attitude. She stands across from the entrance of the ally, just down from the police sub station. Speaking of the sub station. Coming from the very sexually repressed US I always get the biggest kick out of walking past it and seeing SGs sitting on police cars, soliciting customers. I'd like to see that in any US city.
In a few weeks I am heading to LA on a Business trip that will keep me there from Monday till Friday. This time I'll take a late flight the Friday before to San Deigo and head over the border. On Monday morning I'll drive to LA and the on Friday I'll head back to TJ for a 2nd weekend. With 2 weekends to play I intend to stay in a few different hotels and try some spots that I haven't been to before. I'll make sure and report what I find.
Be Safe,
Rider Jay
[QUOTE=Ceefo]There's something more going on here. All of the people involved had either ties to Mexico or businesses IN Mexico somehow. I wonder how many of these people involved didn't pay the right person a 'fee' or something similar. It's all very strange.[/QUOTE]
I think Ceefo has a point here. I don't think they're just snatching up random "Joe Schmoes" off the street and asking for ransom; instead, I'm inclined to believe they are either "casing" their victims, or choosing them due to some percieved wealth or status (of course their perception of the victims' value isn't always accurate, becuase appearances can be decieving). Otherwise I don't think the guys who kidnapped that Korean would ask for (and expect to actually get) a million dollars.
will be in tj this Saturday. Anyone interested in Meeting up? BTW how do you say "handjob" in spanish? anyone?
Hi Guys,
I am flying into SD tomorrow for a weekend of fun in TJ. I will be staying in SD and a friend of mine recently told me getting back across the border is a nightmare and he stood in line for 2 hours. Could someone please tell me the best times to try and come back across to the US and more importantly the worst times to avoid in terms of waiting. Thanks a lot for your help.
Jazz
Park on the San Diego side and walk across. Take a taxi for $5 into the zone. I normally park at the motel next to Jack in the Box, $4.
[QUOTE=Jazzngolf]Hi Guys,
I am flying into SD tomorrow for a weekend of fun in TJ. I will be staying in SD and a friend of mine recently told me getting back across the border is a nightmare and he stood in line for 2 hours. Could someone please tell me the best times to try and come back across to the US and more importantly the worst times to avoid in terms of waiting. Thanks a lot for your help.
Jazz[/QUOTE]
It is very hit and miss lately. New procedures have made the lines longer. Of course it depends on the time that you try to cross. In the wee hours of the morning it is usually little to no wait. Sat afternoon is a different matter all together.
Try hopping on one of the little $2 buses that run near the line. Even if it is not much faster at least you can sit while you wait.
Pedestrian Wait Time Estimates:
San Ysidro: 619-690-8999
Otay: 619-671-8999
Anyone been to Maria Bonitas?
Heres my story:
A group of 4 of us were making our first trip down, with only the knowledge passed down to us from friends. Parked for $7 bucks on the US side, walked down to the border.
Cabbie grabbed us and told us $7 for the ride. We knew we wanted to head to Hong Kong and then AB (because our buddies had told us about those palces), but we asked the Cabbie what he thought. I asked him about Chicago, and he asked if I was gay! I said HELL no, and he said that place has chicks with dicks. We all agreed no CC (believed him). He talked us out of AB saying it gets bad on Saturday nights because of all the guys that go there - the chicks would be coming up and down and up and down. We said no thanks to that (again, we believed him). We asked him where we should go - we said we wanted to drink first. He took us to some small strip club - Purple or something. We had a couple of beers and then left because it was so dead in there. He was outside waiting for us, so we got in and told him that place sucked. So he took us to Platinum.
WOW!
Hot chicks there...really cool strip club. He warned us no sex, and we were cool with it. We just wanted to get warmed up before getting laid at ABs. $8 cover charger (WTF!) but once we got in, chicks everywhere! Super hot ones too. Its really a cool strip joint. Got talked into a dance for $20 - this chick had a fat ass and was really sexy. She talked me into $20 more (after I said no like 50 times), saying "everything". I said what does "everything" mean? She said masturbate. I ponied up the $40 bucks, thinking it was a good deal and she was hot. Well it was a great lap dance, but she never jerked me off. All she did was grab my cock with my pants still on. The dance ended and I was pissed. I told the dudes there that she lied to me, and she said something to them like "loco" - that pissed me off so bad!
Went back to the booth and waited for one of my buddies - he got a dance too. Turns out, he got ripped off as well...his chick actually let him pentrate, but she got off and said $60 more to finish. He said no thanks. So that place sucks for sex - the cabbie was right. Great strip club if thats what you want, but don't go to Platinum and expect to get off. Those girls are PROS and will try to get as much money off you as possible.
We left after an hour. We were all kinda pissed and just wanted to get laid. Problem was, 2 of my buddies were too low on cash now. We had to go all the way back to the parking lot in the US to grab my buddy's ATM card. Then we came back to our cabbie and had him drive us around looking for an ATM that was open.
I was like 1am at this point, and the cabbie said most places close at like 2am. So we were rushing. Finaly we get to an ATM, my friend pulls cash, and the Cabbie takes us to get laid. He said he knows a place (again, he wouldnt take us to AB) for $80 everything, full sex. We were all game.
The place was Maria Bonitas and FINALLY we were happy. We walked in, the pimp demanded the money. We paid, then chose our girl. There was about 8 chicks there, couple really hot ones. I picked a cute, shy girl named Camilla.
She took me upstairs to this little room. It was like a doctors bed, with a paper sheet on it. Tiny room, but there was a mirror and the lights were on a dimmer. It was all really sanitary, which made me comfortable. She told me to undress and she left and came back about 10mins later.
She was really sexy. Told me to lay on my stomach and she gave me a 10 minute massage. Really gentle, put lotion all over my body. I was surprised how turned on I was, and was so relaxed I barely noticed that I had a major boner. It was a bit surprising to find her putting on my condom with me "standing at the ready"!
She got on her back, and said "listo?"
Oh man, I was soo turned on. She was so cute, in a sweet, girl-next door way. Great ass, perky tits, pretty face, amazing brown eyes, great long brown hair. I fucked her mish the whole time, and she was really liking it. She was so hot, and the mirror made things so sexy, that I almost busted early like twice! I had to really controll myself because I wanted to do her so good. She treated me like a king - I wanted to return the favor. I like to really take it slow, sort of like enjoying a fine meal. I figured since I spent the money, i wanted to get the most out of it. I was kissing all up on her neck, holding her close while staying in the mish the whole time. It was the best GFE I had. I felt like she was loving it, and I KNOW i was. I finished up, and it was great. There was a roll of toliet paper so I cleaned up and went downstairs to wait for my buddies. Theres a nice couch with a TV. I was so relaxed. Took a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] to clean the tubing, and my buddies came down and we left with big grins on our faces.
I thought about Camila for a week after. I want to go steal her away! She was great!
BUT! I spent 140 during my night down there, and I know I could spend less next time. I wouldnt mind hitting up a couple of Streetwalkers, but dont know anything about how to do it. I still have yet to go to AB, so thats an idea too.
Any suggestions? Or is $80 a good deal considering how good of a time I had? I would definetly go back to Maria Bonitas...i think its a "massage" parlor.
As a general rule of thumb, it's a good idea to politely turn down any recommendations that a cabbie may offer. Many of the cabbies are in cahoots with some of the massage parlors and strip clubs that directly compete with the most popular clubs (i.e. AB). They're lookin' for a kick-back.
I've noticed that some of the cabbies will say anything to steer you clear of the Zona proper.
I think it's great that you ended hookin'-up with a hottie anyways but you guys should check out the Zona for some SG and AB action. Much better selection and overall better prices.
With regard to trannies at Chicago, that's news to me but always keep your eyes and ears wide open whilst mongering.
Oh by the way, how long did you have to wait in line when you returned to the States?
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Bolthead] Or is $80 a good deal considering how good of a time I had? I would definetly go back to Maria Bonitas...i think its a "massage" parlor.[/QUOTE]
You didn't mention how long you were in the room with the chica. If it was for an hour you got a very good deal.
BTW the cabby gets a commission up to $20 for taking you to a mp. That's why he didn't want to take you to HK or Chicago.
JazznGolf,
I've crossed many times and have generally found that daytime is typically worst. Morning and afternoon can be 2 hour waits but generally less early in the afternoon and at night. I've had no waits late at night if that's an option. Avoid your typical rush hour times. But, very late is quickest.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]You didn't mention how long you were in the room with the chica. If it was for an hour you got a very good deal.
BTW the cabby gets a commission up to $20 for taking you to a mp. That's why he didn't want to take you to HK or Chicago.[/QUOTE]No it wasnt an hour. it was more like a half hour (i think?), but there was no clock watching or anything. We went as long as it took me to get off.
[QUOTE=California Guy]I think these have all been kidnappings on the US side right and they were taken to TJ? I only noticed the report on the link you posted.[/QUOTE]
I love it!!!
Kusi is hebrew for pussy!
Could someone please tell me about the service Team Juanita? The girls look to good to be true. I have seen a post saying it is a ripoff. Could you please explain what the problem is with this service?
Thanks!
As they say, timing is everything. No matter where you monger, Brazil, Thailand, Tj.. A good example, last Saturday, me and a friend went to Tj.. First stop B/T.. We go in and there are about 3 to 4 outstanding looking chicas I would have loved to done. I was meeting Marielos there so all I did was look. My friend was telling me how he took a bunch of friends here the week before but there was no talent what so-ever. All his friends left the bar disappointed vowing never to return to this bar.
My friend was commenting on how if his same friends were here last Saturday, their view of the bar would have been so much different. I guess my point is, you never know what you are going to find but never stop looking even if your last trip was somewhat of a disappointment.
Anyways, Marielos set up my friend with one of her girlfriends and we went to dinner then to La Ma Masion to finish off the evening.
We went to dinner and I highly recommend this place, Cheripan. It is an Argentine restaurant and we all had the steaks. Everyone loved it. The atmostphere is like going to an upscale restaurant in L.A.. They have different prices for the steaks but the one I got was for $15.00usd and I took half of it home. Just like the gourmet restaurants here, everyting is ala carte.
The dinner and drinks for the 4 of us came out to roughly $100usd. If you want to impress that special girl, I recommend this restaurant. It is located near the Grand Hotel to give you an idea of what section of town it is in.
Q
[QUOTE=Hilo Boy]Could someone please tell me about the service Team Juanita? The girls look to good to be true. I have seen a post saying it is a ripoff. Could you please explain what the problem is with this service?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
I have never gone with any of the girls from Team Juanita because I'm not willing to pay $150 an hour. That said my understanding is that Team Juanita is legit. The girls are for real.
Does anyone know how long it takes to drive from the border to the San Diego airport at around 6am on a Friday morning? I gotta catch an 8:15am flight, but don't know what to anticipate for traffic.
Thanks!
ME
[QUOTE=Muff Eater]Does anyone know how long it takes to drive from the border to the San Diego airport at around 6am on a Friday morning? I gotta catch an 8:15am flight, but don't know what to anticipate for traffic.
Thanks!
ME[/QUOTE]A journey I have done many times. At that time in the morning the traffic will not be bad - it may only get busy when very close to airport. I have found that even at times when other cities get busy with commuters the traffic around SD does not get really bad!! Therefore, 20 to 30 minutes should be more than enough.
However, when I have tried to travel to airports and leave it as late as possible I have encountered unexpected delays - that is why I am saying it may take as long as 30 mins.
PNI
Hello Fellow Mongers
I will have a chance to visit you mongers from East Coast ( Wash DC ) this June. June 22nd - June 25th for three nights and four days. I will be staying near Tijuana on US side. I would love to hang with any of you mongers for a round of Golf during the days and Tijuana chicas during the nights. Any of you mongers interested, please let me know.
Asian Shark
[QUOTE=Pnireland]A journey I have done many times. At that time in the morning the traffic will not be bad - it may only get busy when very close to airport. I have found that even at times when other cities get busy with commuters the traffic around SD does not get really bad!! Therefore, 20 to 30 minutes should be more than enough.
However, when I have tried to travel to airports and leave it as late as possible I have encountered unexpected delays - that is why I am saying it may take as long as 30 mins.
PNI[/QUOTE]
Hi. Hope you have a great trip. I *have* been caught in traffic at 6 am around San Diego, so would suggest leaving more than 20 or 30 minutes to get from the border to the airport. For myself, I'd leave 1 hour, just to be safe. Best wishes!
Interesting information about the change in Mexico's drug laws.
Mexico's Congress Legalizes Drugs for Personal Use
Friday, April 28, 2006
Fast Facts: What Would Be Legal in Mexico?
MEXICO CITY — Mexico's Congress approved a bill Friday decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, ecstasy, cocaine and heroin for personal use — a measure sure to raise questions in Washington about Mexico's commitment to the war on drugs.
The only remaining step was the signature of President Vicente Fox, whose office indicated he would sign it.
Supporters said the law would let police focus on drug smuggling, rather than on busting casual users. The bill also would stiffen many drug-related penalties: for trafficking, for possession near schools, and for possession of even small quantities by government employees.
Criminal penalties for drug sales would remain on the books.
"We can't close our eyes to this reality," said Sen. Jorge Zermeno, of Fox's conservative National Action Party. "We cannot continue to fill our jails with people who have addictions."
The administration of U.S. President George W. Bush scrambled to come up with a response.
"We're still studying the legislation, but any effort to decriminalize illegal drugs would not be helpful," a U.S. diplomat said on condition of anonymity.
The bill, passed by Mexico's Senate on a 53-26 vote with one abstention, had already been quietly approved in the lower house of Congress and was sent Friday to the president's desk. Presidential spokesman Ruben Aguilar indicated Fox would sign it.
"This law gives police and prosecutors better legal tools to combat drug crimes that do so much damage to our youth and children," he said.
If signed into law, the bill could have an impact on Mexico's relationship with the United States — and on the vast numbers of vacationing students who visit Mexico, often to take advantage of its rarely enforced drinking age of 18.
The bill says criminal charges will no longer be brought for possession of up to 25 milligrams of heroin, five grams of marijuana — about one-fifth of an ounce, or about four joints — and half a gram of cocaine — about half the standard street-size quantity, which is enough for several lines of the drug.
"No charges will be brought against ... addicts or consumers who are found in possession of any narcotic for personal use," the Senate bill reads. It also lays out allowable quantities for a large array of other drugs, including LSD, MDA, ecstasy — about two pills' worth — and amphetamines.
Some of the amounts are eye-popping: Mexicans would be allowed to possess a kilogram (2.2 pounds) of peyote, the button-sized hallucinogenic cactus used in some native Indian religious ceremonies.
Mexican law now leaves open the possibility of dropping charges against people caught with drugs if they are considered addicts and if "the amount is the quantity necessary for personal use." But the exemption isn't automatic.
The new bill drops the "addict" requirement — automatically allowing any "consumers" to have drugs — and sets out specific allowable quantities.
Sale of all drugs would remain illegal under the proposed law, unlike the Netherlands, where the sale of marijuana for medical use is legal and it can be bought with a prescription in pharmacies.
While Dutch authorities look the other way regarding the open sale of cannabis in designated coffee shops — something Mexican police seem unlikely to do — the Dutch have zero tolerance for heroin and cocaine. In both countries, commercial growing of marijuana is outlawed.
In Colombia, a 1994 court ruling decriminalized personal possession of small amounts of cocaine, heroin and other drugs. But President Alvaro Uribe, who is almost assured of re-election next month, wants to change that with a constitutional amendment.
"Allowing the personal dosage of drugs is inconsistent with a country committed to fighting the war on drugs," Uribe said at a campaign stop.
The effects could be significant, given that Mexico is rapidly becoming a drug-consuming nation as well as a shipment point for traffickers, and given the number of U.S. students who flock to border cities or resorts like Cancun and Acapulco on vacation.
"This is going to increase addictions in Mexico," said Ulisis Bon, a drug treatment expert in Tijuana, where heroin use is rampant. "A lot of Americans already come here to buy medications they can't get up there ... Just imagine, with heroin."
U.S. legalization advocates greeted the bill with glee.
Ethan Nadelmann, director of the New York-based Drug Policy Alliance, called it "a very good move," saying it removed "a huge opportunity for low-level police corruption." In Mexico, police often release people detained for minor drug possession in exchange for bribes.
I will be traveling to your mongering town in June. June 22 - 25th. If anyone would like to play some golf during the day and monger at night. Please PM me. I will be staying near San Ysidro.
Hope to see some of you mongers.
Asian Shark
U.S. Ass-hole alert! By the way I'm a very straight-looking white guy.
A new security guy on the US side of the Sentri line (he's white, with glasses and brownish-blonde hair and i think sideburns) is really messed up. Quotes:
"For the last time, are you bringing back anything from Mexico like prescription drugs or anything", after asking twice! Then he made me empty all my pockets right there at the ID counter. i pity anyone with a cigar or viagra or valium or whatever.
"How long are you staying in San Diego" this after seeing from my license that i live in l.a. He still asked twice, after i told him i was not staying in san diego, he would not believe i was going back to l.a.
There was more BS but I don't remember it all. Good luck.
Expect EVERY officer to be an asshole.
Expect to be interrogated. Tell the truth. You are in TJ chasing the girls. It is totally cool to say it. I say it EVERY time I return.
Don't bring anything illegal back. Don't be stoopid.
You are dealing with guys who joined the force to save the country and here they are asking stoopid questions to freshly laid mongers returning with a silly grin on their face. How depressing must that be? Put yourself in their place.
EXPECT EVERY OFFICER TO BE AN ASSHOLE. Do not lie. Do not be afraid, you have jsut as much right to cross the border as anyone and ASSHOLE officers have NO right to stop you from doing that:
1. UNLESS YOU LIE,
2. DON'T HAVE YOUR PAPERWORK IN ORDER
3. ARE CARRYING SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD NOT BE CARRYING
It is a crime to lie to a Federal Law Enforcement Officer so DON'T. Once you lie they can do all kinds of fun things like detain you, deport you, deny entry etc. etc. All you want to do is go home after sessioning some lusty latina(s) but you got some illegal drugs in your stuff -- stoopid, you come off like someone they'd like to get to know better ("walking probable cause").
You know what I mean.
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]and a lot less attractive than some of the SW's in the alley.
Just MHO.[/QUOTE]
Team Juanita is a credible organization and the girls are as pictured. I know, I took a lot of the pictures. What you see is what shows up at the door. The service is honest and most of the girls are a lot of fun. Many are housewives etc earning extra cash etc but they know what they are doing, it is not a scam it is totally legit.
Don't order a girl that you are not happy with in the pictures. Get on the phone and talk to the service, they are there to help you and will be most accomodating. You can consider this an endorsement.
Country John
Orginally posted by One Wing Low
"I was harassed by a Philipino agent. He could smell the chicas' perfume in my clothes and became very jealous. I assume he could never afford the chicas on his wages. I answered all his stupid fucking questions while wrote down date, time, his name, badge number and notes. He was shaken badly. He asked me why I had to write down his name. I calmly told him I am an attorney who likes to collect facts. He really shit in his pants!"
I was harassed by a older Philipino at the checkpoint as well. This guy was in the first line, second guard by the back. He work black leather gloves and thought he was tough s***. It was Thursday, 5-06-06 around 5:30pm. I've never had problems with the other guards until this day. He gave me attitude and told me "You don't know what your talking about!" I was tire, hungry and just wanted to leave. Had forgotten about it until I saw your post. Good going in your actions.
I too have had engagements with agents on several occassions. Most recently, I returned from Windsor, Canada, and at the checkpoint, I was read the riot act for not carrying my passport. It went on for 10 minutes. The agent was a fucking asshole.
Many years ago (pre 9/11), visited TJ with friends, and was fucked with when coming back. I get to the agent checking IDs, give him my DL, and he asks, "Who is the president of the United States?" I kiddingly reply, "Uhm, I don't know." The agent gives back my DL, and says, "OK." Walked about 15ft, stopped, and quietly wait for my buddies to come through. Out of fucking nowhere, an agent yells, "I thought I told you not to stand there! Didn't I tell you! Didn't I!" I was dumbfounded (WTF MF??@@!!) Never seen the guy before. I was only in the spot for a few seconds...WTF? I looked around, and replied, "Me?" While pointing directly at me, he responded, "Yeah, YOU!" I really wanted to hand his FUCKING ass on a plate. He was an Asian fella with glasses. Man, I really wanted to put my foot in his cu. What a fucking asshole.
Apparently, the BP continues to hire MENTALLY ILL persons. What concerns me most, in this post 9/11 era, the agents have even more powers. Scary, really.
[QUOTE=Womonger]Orginally posted by One Wing Low
"I was harassed by a Philipino agent. He could smell the chicas' perfume in my clothes and became very jealous. I assume he could never afford the chicas on his wages. I answered all his stupid fucking questions while wrote down date, time, his name, badge number and notes. He was shaken badly. He asked me why I had to write down his name. I calmly told him I am an attorney who likes to collect facts. He really shit in his pants!"
I was harassed by a older Philipino at the checkpoint as well. This guy was in the first line, second guard by the back. He work black leather gloves and thought he was tough s***. It was Thursday, 5-06-06 around 5:30pm. I've never had problems with the other guards until this day. He gave me attitude and told me "You don't know what your talking about!" I was tire, hungry and just wanted to leave. Had forgotten about it until I saw your post. Good going in your actions.[/QUOTE]
I am not trying to defend the BP agents but think about the job. They get to deal with all kinds of drunk, obnoxious people every night, all for a little better then minimum wage. They can’t be to smart or they would never have made a career out of a job that most resembles working at a fast food window. For most of them this is the closest they’ll ever get to any kind of authority.
I flew into San Diego last Friday night and headed strait to the border. I have been staying at the Travel Lodge on the US side but their prices keep going up. I used to stay for $50 including tax but they now want about $75 on weekends. Since I only use the place to store my things, park my car, and sleep for a couple of hours in between trips to the Zona, I thought it was a little to high. I decided to try the Holiday Motel instead. What a mistake this was. Do not stay at this flea bag. It was only $50 but was as bad as the $5 no-tells across the border. Dirty describes every aspect of this place. It was worth a try but I’ll never go back. The next night I stayed on the other side at the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago. It got some good reports and I’ll say it was clean and a good value for $45. The only problem was the noise. I could have tolerated the street noise but some prick vendor with a loud speaker seemed to spend most of his night right outside my window. All I heard was tamales, tamales, tamales, tamales…well you get the picture.
I did my usual 2 SG’s on Friday, 3 over all day Saturday, and got 1 in right before I made my run back across and to the airport on Sunday morning. Like always, some were good and some were bad but, also like always, I had a great time. The food, the Girls, the whole different atmosphere then we see on US soil is what always draws me back.
Be Safe, Rider Jay
NEVER TAKE CRAP FROM FEDERAL AGENTS. What is wrong with you people? Unless you are carrying something or otherwise in the WRONG, why the fuck to you tolerate bad treatment from these people?? They work FOR [b]YOU[/b].
The first time I get shit from one of these clowns, I will ask him for a complaint form and take the two hours to complete it. He will NOT win. I might lose some sleep but he will NOT win.
I understand it's late, you were screwing girls in TJ, maybe you had some beer, popped a viagra etc. etc. OK. You do not deserve to be treated badly by US Customs officers.
Sheesh.....
Country John
I'll be in the San Diego area on Sat. May 13th and will make my annual run into Tijuana - any mongers would like to meet up with me? I'll be at the McDonald's just over the border at about 5pm. Will spend the next few hours in Tijuana and banging some SW's in the alley and then head to CC and then Adelitas.
In fairness, those were the only two times where my patience was tested. In the many crossing I have made, the agents were cordial and professional. Although the TJ crossing incident took place well over 10 years ago, it still boils me. BTW, I am a local boy who was born in Balboa Naval Hospital, and lived across the bay on Coronado.
Yes, I agree that the wages paid are weak, considering their responsibilities, cost of living in So Cal, etc... I am all to familiar with the public sector. The salaries paid to our frontline women and men have been stagnant for many years, in comparison to jobs creations.
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The U.S. Dept. of State [url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/brochures/brochures_1229.html[/url]
"On effective dates below, all travelers to or from the Americas, the Caribbean and Bermuda will be required to have a passport or other document that establishes the bearer’s identity and nationality to enter or re-enter the United States. On December 31, 2006, the requirement will be applied to all air and sea travel to and from Bermuda, the Caribbean, Central and South America, Mexico, and Canada. On December 31, 2007, the requirement extended to all air, sea, and land border crossings."
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The above was discussed and made aware to me on my most recent crossing by an agent in Detroit. In summary, you will either need a passport or ID and birth cert. for re-entry into the U.S.
[QUOTE=Rider Jay]I am not trying to defend the BP agents but think about the job. They get to deal with all kinds of drunk, obnoxious people every night, all for a little better then minimum wage. They can’t be to smart or they would never have made a career out of a job that most resembles working at a fast food window. For most of them this is the closest they’ll ever get to any kind of authority.
Be Safe, Rider Jay[/QUOTE]
I went south of the border last Sunday. First stop a/b around 6 pm.. It was pretty dead in there. I have been in there on Sundays before and I know it's not as crowded as a Fri. or Sat. but this was ridiculous. Plenty of seats and I just did a walk through just to see if there were any hotties around. After two laps I'am thinking, maybe the other posts were right, a/b was lacking on talent.
I then went to l/c.. It was a little bit more crowded in there so I got a seat and had a drink. The strip show was winding down with the last girl doing her thing. Then, they had about 6 girls show off their bodies on the dance floor. I notice one I would do so I asked the waiter about her. He told me she was new and she didn't go upstairs. At least this saved me some money by not buying her a drink.
He then pointed out another girl, small spinner type, cute. I told the waiter to bring her over after her dance. Her name is Suzy and she is from Cancun. I didn't actually see her strip, but I think she is a stripper there. She is about 5'2" and very flauca.
I buy her a drink then head upstairs. What I like about this girl, she loves to kiss. The first 10 minutes was just making out on the bed. Because time was running short I daty, which she loves then to mish for the finnish. I didn't ask for a bj because of the time, so I don't know if she does cbj or bbbj. Fun girl, I would repeat.
After the session, went back to a/b. Again, not crowded at all but at least there were some hotties now. Only problem with the hotties, they look good but they seem to have the attitude of a rob. I know it is not true of all of them but because I just finished with a good session, I didn't want a let down.
Getting my fill of eye candy, I headed over to T/b. This place was also dead. Marielos, is back home in Culiacan and I didn't see anything worth banging so I headed back over to l/c.. By the time I got back to l/c, Suzy was gone for the night. There was one cute girl that I wanted to take up but she was with a local for a least a couple of hours. Because she was tied up with the local, I never found out her name.
Also at l/c, for any of you regulars who goes there, did you notice the one girl who resembles Tara Patrick? At least her face does, her body isn't bad, but it doesn't come close to the porn star. Has anyone taken her upstairs? And how was she? By the way she was with some guy who kept buying her beers so I never got to speak with her either.
I got tired of waiting for these girls to free up so I headed out to h/k.. My report will end there in the h/k section.
As a side note. Depending on what agent you get, I actually had a cool one on the way back. The agent asked me what I was doing in Mx? I told him I was meeting some friends there. He asked were they female? I told him yes. He then asked a weird question, he asked if I touched any of them. I told him I tried to! He smile then said next in line.
Q
Don't act like an idiot, be firm and respectul, carry your valid papers and don't bring illegal stuff, then you should be leaving the booth in a minute. It is sure that lots of rotten apples are on the governement paylist, but as everywhere else where you have to interact with public, nothing motivates more you to give bad or minimal service to someone pissing you off.
About the guys working in Detroit, lots of truck drivers avoid that area especially for the traffic delays and the bad reputation of the service offered at the tunnel and the bridge stations. Another infamous officer up there is a big black woman who give shit to several different persons I know. I don't know how she did it, but she almost got an anti-fan club now. I guess that's the tough inner city context making that. Personnally, I generally have good service from the US border officers I meet. I even had lots of interesting conversations with on-duty officers in TX and WA. Against the bets, even I have the Canadian citizenship, the Canadian officers are the ones giving me the most troubles. Several times, they're acting as pros, but not always. Per exemple, I strongly suggest you to avoid heading up to Canada via the Detroit-Windsor tunnel station. They held me there for almost two hours for no reason at the same time they were releasing suspecious people (in my book) next to me.
Quick question - when you buy gas in Mexico, is a tip for the attendant expected? If so, how much?
The guy who filled my tank also washed the front/rear windows.
As an aside, by my calculations, gas currently costs $2.58/gallon in TJ. (7.41 pesos per liter * 3.785 = 28.04685 pesos per gallon / 10.86527 current exchange rate = $2.58US per gallon.)
The key to consistent $3 cab rides versus 5 is to approach cab drivers just after they drop off their current fare (or while they're doing so).
ZONA BOUND: when you get to the TJ border walk over to the area where your regular cab ride back from Mexico stops (It's just across the new archway and at the base of the stairway; also next to northbound traffic). At that spot ask most any driver (Taxi Libre works best) as he drops off his fare "tres dollares para adelitas?", etc. and he'll be quite glad to see you.
USA BOUND: similarly, when looking to head back, signal a driver (Taxi Libre works best) just after he drops off his fare and is moving away from adelitas, etc. Asking "tres dollares para linya USA" at that point will be met with marked enthusiasm.
The reason for the warm reception of course, is that the drivers otherwise have to clear drop zones immediately. It works best at the busiest times when waiting taxis on the other hand will not be as excited to accommodate. I might also remind (if you RTFF) that sitting in the front seat is the local custom.
I recommend putting the extra $2 toward beers.
To be honest I have had bad experiences with the officers maybe 5 out of 1000+ times going to Mex. I would understand if these guys were having bad days with some of the people they deal with but I haven't really seen it. On the other hand I went to Canada once and the guys were dicks. Both entering and leaving it took at least 5-10 minutes each way with all of the questions and comments from these guys. I have heard the same thing from many people who visit Canada on a regular basis and I am not sure what's the deal.
If you'll permit me I'd like to ask you well-seasoned TJ mongers a question.
Are there any massage parlors in TJ that offer a table shower? Or allow the girl to shower with you? Or perhaps even have a spa or whirlpool that you can do your business in? I'm not concerned about the price. I can, on occasion, find this service at the AMP's in SoCal but I'd like to try it with a hot Latina. And I know from experience that you can pretty much find ANYTHING in Mexico for the right price. :)
Joe
[QUOTE=Joe Monger]If you'll permit me I'd like to ask you well-seasoned TJ mongers a question.
Are there any massage parlors in TJ that offer a table shower? Or allow the girl to shower with you? Or perhaps even have a spa or whirlpool that you can do your business in? I'm not concerned about the price. I can, on occasion, find this service at the AMP's in SoCal but I'd like to try it with a hot Latina. And I know from experience that you can pretty much find ANYTHING in Mexico for the right price. :)
Joe[/QUOTE]
Joe, you can take the Adelitas chicas to a hot tub room in the hotel they use. Its not always available, of course.
Twice, I've taken a daytime Adelitas chica (I cannot remember her name) to a legitimate sauna/massage place. We sauna-ed together, I pounded her in the sauna, then we each had a legitimate massage. Sorry, I never got the name of the sauna. Its just another idea.
[QUOTE=California Guy]To be honest I have had bad experiences with the officers maybe 5 out of 1000+ times going to Mex. I would understand if these guys were having bad days with some of the people they deal with but I haven't really seen it. On the other hand I went to Canada once and the guys were dicks. Both entering and leaving it took at least 5-10 minutes each way with all of the questions and comments from these guys. I have heard the same thing from many people who visit Canada on a regular basis and I am not sure what's the deal.[/QUOTE]I lived in Vancouver the past 3 years and in that time and amidst at least 30 border crossings (mostly airport but a few land) I noticed the experience for US citizens of crossing into Canada getting progressively worse. I presume this is due to the post-9/11 US Gov. pressure on Canada to significantly tighten both border security and immigration.
Until recently I had not been across the TJ border in a good 15 years, but I definitely notice a much more stern interview now as opposed to back then and I presume it has gotten quite a bit more stricty in the last 3 years as well.
[QUOTE=Joe Monger]If you'll permit me I'd like to ask you well-seasoned TJ mongers a question.
Are there any massage parlors in TJ that offer a table shower? Or allow the girl to shower with you? Or perhaps even have a spa or whirlpool that you can do your business in? I'm not concerned about the price. I can, on occasion, find this service at the AMP's in SoCal but I'd like to try it with a hot Latina. And I know from experience that you can pretty much find ANYTHING in Mexico for the right price. :)
Joe[/QUOTE]
Joe,
Massage parlors like you mention are all over the place. Not sure about the table shower, but full service massage houses with showers, tubs and jacuzzis are in abundance in and outside the zona. Depends on the girl if she gets wet with you, but I have had not problems with that request, YMMV. Check for a post made a few months back about many of the places.
One really close to the action with bath/jacuzzis would be "El Campamento" - 1 block east of Adelitas behind La Tropa Bar
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Especially in Vancouver, where their wives and girlfriends turn tricks for peanuts.
Be very careful dealing with Canadian custom assholes. If you dress casually and enter Canada by yourself, they figure you are seeking to fuck their wives for cheap, therefore they get jealous.[/QUOTE]
Canadian customs are the worst. I brought some t-shirts from TJ for the family,. 10 shirts total with all the same lettering and graphics. We talked about Mexico and I told him it was a great place to live and chase the girls.
I had to pay $50. to get the fucking shirts into Canada, he said I was taking them in for Re-Sale. They are pricks of the highest order. Much worse than the USA or Mexico. It's the French in them. One Wing Low is right.
Country John
Well, I have been hearing a lot of good things about the Hotel Santaigo in TJ lately and last weekend I decided to give it a try. I usually stay at the Nelson, but I figured that this place was close to the action. I was very glad that I tried it! The full name is Hotel Santiago de something or other, and it is located on the corner of Revolucion and Calle de Coahuila. From the arch, walk straight down the hill and take your first left. The hotel is right there and is across from La Tropa bar. From AB, exit take a right, then your first left and then your first right (3 min walk from AB or CC).
I arrived Friday around 4pm and requested a double room with one bed. The total came to $43 plus $3 refundable key deposit. The room, which was on the 3rd floor, had a good size double bed, very clean bathroom and small kitchenette including a refrigerator. The room also had a TV. All in all it was very nice and pretty good value for what you pay. Extremely clean and ample towels. This place is about $15 - $17 cheaper than the Nelson but about $20 more than the Leyva. I would say that it is nicer and much newer than the Nelson and is not even in the same league as the Leyva.
In terms of being chica friendly, that is not a problem at all. Just make sure to request a double room. That's all they care about - that you are not trying to sneak an extra guest in. I brought a girl up around 10pm or so and it was no problem. She stayed the night and left when I checked out in the morning. Again, no problem. They do check your room before you leave so if you want the $3 back, don't steal anything or trash the place.
Only downside to this place that I could see was the parking. They do have a parking garage, but it is unattended. I drove in there and nobody questioned me or tried to charge me money. When I decided it didn't look secure enough, I drove over to Leyva and parked there ($7 for 24 hours - attendant is there 24 / 7). I forgot to ask when checking in at Santiago if parking is free, but I think it is. Because it isn't guarded, I don't recommend that you park there - better to leave the car north of the border or in an attended lot.
This hotel is as noisy as all the other hotels in the zone. All night, you will hear mariachis, music from bars, freaks yelling on the street, people banging around and slamming doors, police sirens - the usual TJ noise.
If you want a good night's sleep, try something outside the zone or, better yet, outside the country. If you want to monger, this place is almost perfect: inexpensive, clean, safe and chica-friendly. This hotel gets the official Blue Nose seal of approval. I will definitely be back and have no trouble recommending it for other guys, whether you just want a place to crash or a TLN session. It's all possible here.
Blue Nose
Dear Fellow Mongers,
I have travelled and mongered quite a lot, Europe, Asia etc... but funnily enough never in South America and never in Tijuana.
Being for a short while on business in South California, I have decided to give it a try.
I have RTF carefully, and must thank everyone for all the info. I have taken note of all the "safety" rules and will carefully follow them
However, I have a few specific questions, and I hope that some of the TJ veterans will not mind spending a few minutes answering them.
First, I can only go during day time, say 1 to 7 pm, and either Monday or Tuesday. Is there any action, and if yes where? I read that AB is the best chance, but beyond this, any other place?
Two: Iam not young anymore, so what I ususally do is take my time to choose, and go for a FS action. However, after that, I am not ready for a while for a second cum, neither I am ready to head back home. Is there any place open in the afternoon where I can hang on comfortably, watching dancers, perhaps getting lap dances , possibly BJs, etc... without having to go back for a full session to the room? Basically a strip club like in the US but with high mileage, and cheaper lap dance?
Thanks in advance for the advice.
Apologies if you read this in other threads, I did not know which one was the most appropriate, so posted in several.
I will report, of course.
And feel free to ask me, Pm or else, anything you want to know about mongering in London, Frankfurt, Tokyo, Singapore etc.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Dreams]Dear Fellow Mongers,
I have travelled and mongered quite a lot, Europe, Asia etc... but funnily enough never in South America and never in Tijuana.
Being for a short while on business in South California, I have decided to give it a try.
I have RTF carefully, and must thank everyone for all the info. I have taken note of all the "safety" rules and will carefully follow them
However, I have a few specific questions, and I hope that some of the TJ veterans will not mind spending a few minutes answering them.
First, I can only go during day time, say 1 to 7 pm, and either Monday or Tuesday. Is there any action, and if yes where? I read that AB is the best chance, but beyond this, any other place?
Two: Iam not young anymore, so what I ususally do is take my time to choose, and go for a FS action. However, after that, I am not ready for a while for a second cum, neither I am ready to head back home. Is there any place open in the afternoon where I can hang on comfortably, watching dancers, perhaps getting lap dances , possibly BJs, etc... without having to go back for a full session to the room? Basically a strip club like in the US but with high mileage, and cheaper lap dance?[/QUOTE]
Dreams - Welcome to the Forum. First off, no problem to go during the day, and any day of the week you will find some action in TJ. For a man like you, I would say that your best bet is probably to hit Adelitas (ABs). This will afford you the most selection and gradually introduce you to TJ and Mexico. Chicago Club, another good place, is generally DEAD before 8pm, so I would not advise it based on your schedule. Would also recommend that you try (or warm up with) a street walker.
In terms of just hanging out between pops, I would recommend Hong Kong. HK is located in "the alley" just behind ABs. Walking out of ABs, hang a right at the exit, then take your first right (onto Constitucion) and then another immediate right - this will put you in the alley. In the alley you will find many, many street walkers who will be willing to go with you for about $25. If you continue to walk down the alley, Hong Kong will be on your right. This place is generally regarded as the best strip club in TJ. Just walk in and grab a seat by the stage. During the day you will get 2 for 1 beers and you can stuff $1 into girls' thongs to your heart's content. Upstairs at HK there are some booths for private dances, and of course these are much better quality than you will find in the US.
If you need Cialis or Viagra, you can buy it at any pharmacy - just be careful to buy it and take it quickly before leaving as sometimes the police can hassle you for this. For a first timer, I recommend that you walk across the border. Go through the turnstiles, take your first right then straight through the 2nd set of turnstiles. Go across the street and take a left along Farmacia alley. Go past the yellow taxis and follow the signs / crowds for the Taxi Libre stand. From there you can take a taxi (Try to take a taxi Libre - white with orange markings rather than the yellow cabs) and ask for Adelitas (pronounced Ad-DayLeet-Ahs). Fare is $3, including tip.
Avoid the massage parlors and the strip clubs on Revolucion Blvd. They are rip off joints for ignorant gringos, not informed travellers like yourself.
Blue Nose
i have received a few pms interested in knowing more about tlns in tijuana. i will do my best to answer those questions here by explaining the system that i use.
first, a litle bit of background: i generally gave up on just doing bar girls for 30 minute sessions about 16 months ago. i still do this about once a trip as a warm up, but i generally focus more on tlns. the reason is that i have found better and more consistent service from the semi-pros who staff the "locals" clubs in tj. if you have been to the zone then you know of these clubs even though you may never have been inside. they are ones where the guys stand out front and ask you to come in, promising beautiful women and cheap beer.
before i go any further, let me say a few words about the quality of the women in these clubs. you have to remember that these clubs are not ab or cc and, as such, do not have ab or cc quality girls. some of the guys on this forum may think of these women as ugly, but many are not. in one of these smaller clubs, you will find a some 4-5s, a few 6-7s and then a very few 8s. occaisonally, i have seen a 9, but this is rare - most 8s & 9s work at ab or cc or even hk.
if you want to tln with a nice non-pro girl, my advice is to hit these clubs and just see what you see. order a beer and spend a few minutes scoping out the action. polk your head through the curtains, and if you see a group of women, chances are that there is one there you will like. once you have a drink and have spent some time scoping, ask one over for a drink. i recommend that you do not go with the best looking one there, but rather #2 or #3. usually, the #1 girl in a club knows she is #1 and this can cause her to inflate prices, ficha fuck you etc.
if you don't like what you see, just bail out after a beer and move to the next club. if you do this a few times, you will know which local clubs have the best talent. i usually try to hit the clubs in the late afternoon, if i can. this way, i can take my time and scope out the talent. once you find one you like and buy her a drink, you can politely ask questions about her family, her background etc. this is important, as the ones with no family in tj will be much more likely to be avaialble all night. after a few minutes, you can casually ask her what time she finishes work (shift change at most clubs in the zone is 8 - 9pm) and if she would like to spend the night with you at your hotel, perhaps after taking her for dinner. if you can't speak spanish, then use an electronic translator to figure out how to say this before you go.
if she is game, then ask her her price for todo la noche (for you non-spanish speakers, use a pen to have her write her price and you can negotiate that way). this is where you will see a huge difference between abs and semi-pros. most of these local girls will go tln for anywhere from $100 to $150. i have never paid more than $150 and i never will, although i have been quoted as high as $600 (from an ab girl, before i learned how to do this properly) and as low as $50 from a girl who really seemed to like just hanging around with me.
remember that, although it seems like a bargain to you, this is a lot of money in mexico. many people work hard all week and take home $50 - $75 (or much less) at the end of the week. to give somebody $100 or more for one night's work is to offer them a lot of money. the average ficha girl will only make about $30 or so in fichas and dollar dances per shift, so this is a way to augment her income.
if you set up the deal, make sure you know what time to come back, and then show up a few minutes early. after you do this, you are free to leave and then come back later. you may want to just keep looking at other places, set up a few tlns and then pick the best one, or maybe go to abs or even go take a nap - you will need it. once you show up, the girl will change into her civillian clothes and you are free to leave. no bar fines and no hassles since the shift has ended. if you can't go in the afternoon, and have to take a girl from second shift, you may have to pay a bar fine. no problem - in tj it is not a problem that money cannot solve, but be prepared to pay $10 - $30. some clubs will even charge you more if you keep the girl all night. this is why i prefer to set it up with day shift girls.
once you leave, then take her for dinner (if you want). then it is back to the hotel for the real action!! i recommend the nelson or santiago. both are chica friendly, tln friendly and clean, respectable places that the girls will enjoy. they are also within walking distance to the zone, which will make the girl more comfortable. pay for a double room when you check in and you will have no hassles at all.
once you get to the room, do not offer to pay in advance and resist the tamptation to pay even if she asks for it. show her that you have the money and tell her you will pay in the morning. this will prevent her from leaving early. if you do pay her in advance, do not pay her the full amount - just a portion. again, this is to keep her from leaving early. if she insists then it means she is planning to bail so just toss her out and then go back out and try again. the big risk early on is that she will take the money, do you once and then leave. don't give her that opportunity. trust me on this: i learned the hard way.
when you take your clothes off, roll your jeans up so that your wallet is tucked way on the inside of the roll, and far away from wandering hands. do not let her put her clothes near yours (lest she steal while you are getting dressed). keep your clothes on your side of the bed. when you shower, tell her to come with you. if you can, undress her and rep001ter her clothes around the room so it makes it harder for her to get dressed, steal from you and sneak away in case you fall asleep. don't let your guard down.
at this point, you can basically do what you want for as long as you can. again, the key here is preparation. if you want multiple pops, then take a cialis or viagra 30 minutes before the action begins. this will allow you to get your money's worth. it's also a good idea to have some bottled water in the room as you will both get thirsty.
when you are done, you can either ask her to leave or allow her to stay. it's your call. i usually let them stay since the really untrustworthy ones get weeded out fast using my system, or bail after the second pop with only $40 in their pockets (refuse to pay the rest unless she stays the night). i am a light sleeper anyway, and the girls are usually as tired as i am by the time we are done. it's nice to wake up with a hot, naked latina lying next to you and to have one last session before check out time. if you are really paranoid, you can all your valuables except the money for the girl in the hotel safe.
last weekend, i had a tln girl at the hotel santiago. we were togther for 12 hours, for a total of five pops. the total cost, excluding the room was:
girl: $100
ficha drinks: $13
dinner: $12 (for both of us)
tip: $30 (not necessary, but i gave it to her for exceptional service)
taxi: $3 (again, not necessary, but i want to see her again)
total: $158 for five pops
this included bbbj, multiple positions, daty, and pretty much everthing else you can imagine. i think you will agree that this is a value price, based on what girls are charging in ab and cc these days.
at the end of the night, we were both very happy, albeit for different reasons. i will definitely see her again, and she will be more than happy to oblige me when i next come calling.
if tln is your thing, or you want to give it a try, my advice is to use the local clubs. avoid sws or ab / cc girls for tln - they are too savvy for that, and will overcharge you. i will not recommend local clubs here (pm me if you want them) except to say that you should avoid the following places: la carretera (never had any luck here), bar taurino (gay / ts place), kinkle (yes, it is open again), londres sports bar (place is dead).
best of luck, and please report back on your tln experiences.
blue nose
Hey Bluenose,
Good report, great advice. I somewhat follow what you do but I have to admit, I have never thought of spreading her clothes around. I also agree with the hotel Santiago. It's a good hotel, nice and clean. But because it is in the zona, it is quite noisey.
I went this past Sunday. Again, I'am amazed at how not crowded it was. I arrived around 6:00 p.m. first stop a/d.. I remember the days when even on Sundays it would take a while to walk around the club because of the crowds. Not anymore. I did two laps, saw nothing I liked and headed over to l/c..
At l/c I was hoping Suzy would be there. She gave a great session last time I was there. Of course, when you expect them to be there, they aren't. Stayed for a drink, watch the strip show then headed to t/b..
One thing I like better about the t/b is at least nowadays, the lighting is better. Way back when, it was really dark and it was hard to tell how good a chica looked until you went outside. Anyways, nothing to write home about so I went to h/k..
H/k was so so. There was one girl I would have done but she was with a customer. She was with the customer for a while so I left and got something to eat.
After dinner I went back to t/b and met a girl named mellisa. She's tall about 5'7" from Sinaloa. We went upstairs for a better than average time. Not great but not bad. She wouldn't do a bbbj, just a cbj. We did shower together and the fs was good. I paid her $600 pesos. After the sessions things got a little wierd.
Before going downstairs she asked if I would buy her a beer in the bar. I told her no problem. We get to the bar and sit at a table. She sits down and I tell her to order the beer while I go to the bathroom. When I get back from the bathroom, I see a bucket of beers, the one with six beers in it. I asked her what the heck was this. She start to say that is what she asked upstairs and I said okay. I told her I agreed for one beer. Anyways we argued for a bit, I got tired so I paid for the bucket.
Being a veteran of the zona, I should have known better, especially with someone who I have just met. Hopefully no one else makes this mistake. I guess I got to comfortable with the last few girls I have been with because they were pretty up and up on things like that. Also, I got pissed at the waiter with their bullshit bag of potato chips trick. This is where the waiter will put the bag on the table with your drinks, then charge you for it. Lately, I let him charge me, then when he brings the change back, I ask him why so much? He will then point to the bag and then I tell him I don't want it and bring me the correct change. Later he brings me the change and I pick it up and leave no tip for him. He stands there wanting for his tip, I keep looking at the bag of chips. He gets the message.
Quackup, you handled it well. You knew what was happeining when it was happening and you handled it like a vet. The girl makes a lot more on the bucket than on the single beer of course and she ficha fucked you, I would have walked out on the beer deal. No way a chicas gonna make me pay for a bucket when I order a beer.
BT is known for the potato chip trick.
And bluenose is starting to slow down in his old age.
Country John
i don't post much, but i want to inform our fellow mongers, here's something interested that happened last tuesday in ab next door motel!
as i was going up to pay for the room there were 3 tj cops "placas" as mexicans call them, but i didn't pay much attention to it ,i was taking care of my business, anyway when i took the taxi back to the sentri line, the cab driver was telling me that a stupid gringo got arrested today at ab, so i asked him what happened, are you ready to read this?
the cab driver told me the placas remove the guy from ab next door motel and put him in jail, to try forcing a girl in the room to fucking her in the back hole! how stupid is that? he said the guy was holding her against her will and his dick was breaking in.
now that's very retarded mentally stupid, that's call [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], some guys think a hooker have no rights, and they can do whatever they want, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charges in mexico is not a joke, anyway something to laugh about!
I gave it to her up the ass. Her lips said "No" but her body said "Yes". As for the cops, I gave them each a dollar and they went away. Gotta love TJ.
[QUOTE=Mutha Foo]I gave it to her up the ass. Her lips said "No" but her body said "Yes". As for the cops, I gave them each a dollar and they went away. Gotta love TJ.[/QUOTE]Very funny!
So how was jail in Tj ? Did you lips said "NO" and you body say "YES"?
And did you collect that dollar after?
Hey lil man, how's your mother? Does she let you date? I hope you can still get a date with that pimply face of yours. Let me give you some advice. Take a bath, comb your hair and take a breath mint.
[QUOTE=Mutha Foo]Hey lil man, how's your mother? Does she let you date? I hope you can still get a date with that pimply face of yours. Let me give you some advice. Take a bath, comb your hair and take a breath mint.[/QUOTE]I been here longer than you, I just don't post stupidity all the time!
Sorry they mess you up in jail, I got a few friend in TJ, that can make you body say "YES", if you need more love, I like your Id name goes perfect with you personality!
Spent the weekend in TJ a couple weeks ago after a week in LA and stayed at the Hotel Pueblo Amigo. I paid $100 a night after booking it online. This sound expensive but they usually charge more because this really is a nice hotel by any standards. It's right near the border so I walked to the Zona during the day and took a cab after it was dark.
After hanging out Friday night and during the day on Saturday in the Zona, I decided to spend Saturday night trying out the night life near the hotel. Right next to the hotel there is a complex with all kinds of restuarants and clubs. I went through it a while back but didn't really spend much time because I was in a hurry to go downtown to get to my regular activities. This time I went through it pretty good. There's a ton of night life. Great upscale places to eat and drink and there were plenty of pretty girls everywhere. They were regular girls and there were lots of possiblities but my very limited Spanish held me back. The area is worth checking out if you have command of the language and some extra time on a weekend night.
I made it back to the Zona Sunday to once again participate in the activities that were the main purpose of my visit. That afternoon I made my usual dash back to the San Diego airport for my flight home. The line accross the border was extra long so I rented one of those bikes for $7. The price changes every time I ask but it save me at least an hour. It was the only way I'd have made my flight.
Be safe, Rider Jay
Last 5 times re-entering the usa from a day in tj on foot I noticed they swipe your drivers liscense. One dude in another line had a warrent for who knows what and was being heldup for a sitdown with the police I am guessing.
So be careful if you have some lameass warrant out for your arrest if walking back for re-entry to the usa.
Question:
I never drive over the border but have a friend I use to monger with in tj who wants to visit and make a trip for old times sake. He can't leave the states cause of some trouble he got into. So swiping his drivers licsense could get ugly.
When you drive back into the states from tj do they swipe your drivers liscense? How about the passengers in the car? I would think not. Just asking incase he wants to risk it. I think this would bog down the traffic re-entering the states. Its already backed up a ton as it is.
I have never tried but read many reviews on ***. They give more service. Daty, dfk, and my favorite BBBJ.
I can't hardly find any BBBJ. When I do its from a big older girl or the less then avg girl will stop and spit every 10secs. Funny at first but you never cause its lame as hell.
So where is everyone scoring BBBJ in TJ?
[QUOTE=Lovadogy]I been here longer than you, I just don't post stupidity all the time!
Sorry they mess you up in jail, I got a few friend in TJ, that can make you body say "YES", if you need more love, I like your Id name goes perfect with you personality![/QUOTE]
don't worry about that Mofo> he is what he calls himself, a mutha f'vr....lol.
[QUOTE=TJ Bob]don't worry about that Mofo> he is what he calls himself, a mutha f'vr....lol.[/QUOTE]Thanks TJ Bob.
I just hate A holes that treat women like trash, most of the girls working in TJ are sweet hearts, if you want to fuck them in the back door you just have to work yourself around, when some of us go to the clubs in TJ , we act like A holes, it makes it harder for the good rest of us, they might think we're like animals, I always treat them right and 80 percent of time I get GFE with the girls in AB, hard to believe but once happened to me in Tj gotta an AB frebbie, just paid lunch + movie + room, yeah I'm not kidding! And she was a #9 all cover 2+ hours, of course to get this lucky you must speak fluent spanish, and have a 9 inch machine, I'm just kidding about the machine LOL :>)
This is news for me?
I walked into McDonalds at the border and order a soda and this chuby ok looking girl was looking at me all the time, and I she said what's up, and told her I'm just cool, she asked me if I want a BJ in the McDonalds restroom for 20 and I pass, I need to save my energy for the goodies.
And also if you look around the Constitucion and surroundings you'll see a few local gringas women walking around, mostly crack hos, one of them was walking around in miniskirt with a dog, I bid you they can suck dick and cim for peanuts, did anyone ever try?
Souther Ca is getting hard for them to work because of LE pressure, I think they just cross the border and work around the taxi line waiting for us!
I'm just not sure if this is real or was just this time, but the ones in la Zona
are dangerous drug addicts, be carefull !
Can anyone confirm this?
I have not seen any white girls working there. I would not go with a leser looking girl just because she was white. I've often wondered why more white girls don't work there.
I've never seen any American or even Mexican girls working outside the zona. I have seen a few WSWs working in the Zona but they've all been older or less attractive then the local street talent.
Be Safe, Rider Jay
[QUOTE=Lovadogy]This is news for me?
I walked into McDonalds at the border and order a soda and this chuby ok looking girl was looking at me all the time, and I she said what's up, and told her I'm just cool, she asked me if I want a BJ in the McDonalds restroom for 20 and I pass, I need to save my energy for the goodies.
And also if you look around the Constitucion and surroundings you'll see a few local gringas women walking around, mostly crack hos, one of them was walking around in miniskirt with a dog, I bid you they can suck dick and cim for peanuts, did anyone ever try?
Souther Ca is getting hard for them to work because of LE pressure, I think they just cross the border and work around the taxi line waiting for us!
I'm just not sure if this is real or was just this time, but the ones in la Zona
are dangerous drug addicts, be carefull !
Can anyone confirm this?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bud Leeeeeeee]Last 5 times re-entering the usa from a day in tj on foot I noticed they swipe your drivers liscense. One dude in another line had a warrent for who knows what and was being heldup for a sitdown with the police I am guessing.
So be careful if you have some lameass warrant out for your arrest if walking back for re-entry to the usa.
Question:
I never drive over the border but have a friend I use to monger with in tj who wants to visit and make a trip for old times sake. He can't leave the states cause of some trouble he got into. So swiping his drivers licsense could get ugly.
When you drive back into the states from tj do they swipe your drivers liscense? How about the passengers in the car? I would think not. Just asking incase he wants to risk it. I think this would bog down the traffic re-entering the states. Its already backed up a ton as it is.[/QUOTE]
Bud,
They generally do not swip your license or passport when you drive back by car. But they can as they all have scanners in every booth, so be careful. As well, your license plates are automatically scanned as you drive up so if the owner of the car has any outstanding, ahem, "issues" that he needs to deal with it could be a problem.
My advice - be careful if you are trying to avoid a license scan. After 9/11, everybody is a suspect. Depending on your friend's situation, it may not be worth it for a night of fun in TJ.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Lovadogy]This is news for me?
I walked into McDonalds at the border and order a soda and this chuby ok looking girl was looking at me all the time, and I she said what's up, and told her I'm just cool, she asked me if I want a BJ in the McDonalds restroom for 20 and I pass, I need to save my energy for the goodies.
And also if you look around the Constitucion and surroundings you'll see a few local gringas women walking around, mostly crack hos, one of them was walking around in miniskirt with a dog, I bid you they can suck dick and cim for peanuts, did anyone ever try?
Souther Ca is getting hard for them to work because of LE pressure, I think they just cross the border and work around the taxi line waiting for us!
I'm just not sure if this is real or was just this time, but the ones in la Zona
are dangerous drug addicts, be carefull !
Can anyone confirm this?[/QUOTE]
Yes, there are American girls who work in TJ. Generally, they seem to work as SWs rather than in the clubs. One of the doormen of a local club was pimping out two American SWs a few weeks ago on a Thursday night. They were older and less attractive. Generally, when I see American girls working in La Zona, they are older, less attractive and in one case she looked to be either a real junkie or mentally ill. My advice for other mongers is to take a pass on these girls and stick with the local talent.
Blue Nose
Headed down yesterday for a day trip, my usual M.O. Ran into my regular provider Marisol, who works from Hotel Eduardo. Paid $30 for sex and bbbj with a facial finish. She usually stands toward the street instead of along the building, if anyone is interested in her.
Just as we started I asked if she does anal, she said si but $20 more. I agreed and we switched from mish to doggy with anal penetration. It was my first time. At first I thought I was hurting her but then she seemed to be enjoying it. I'm not sure, maybe she was just acting that way, but I sure enjoyed it. Finished with the bbbj and facial as agreed.
Went to Viva Mex Massage parlor next for a 1 hour recharge massage. This place is nice and clean. 1 hour therapuetic is $35. It's totally legit and has a nice hot shower after the massage.
Back to the alley and I found a new face. Her name is Karen and she's one of the smallest girls out there. Very friendly and playful at first, but didn't likr me touching her. She did a pretty good cbj with me sitting on the edge of the bed and her squatting in front of me. She ran her finger tips everywhere, which was a real turn-on for me.
The sex wasn't as good though. She insisted on being on top and me keeping my legs closed and straight. Took a long time this way but she worked hard enough at it to get me off. At first I thought she was playing "beat the clock" and trying to stall until the knock on the door came, but I was wrong.
All-in-all it was a good day. The border crossing sucked again.
Whoopster
Last trip, which was a while ago, I saw a little cutie in front of the hotel Ribera. She was really cute but when I got up close to talk to her she seemed too young so I passed.
Some of the girls seem young on the street but once you get them up stairs naked, they look like women.
Do they, (the hotels, cops) allow girls that are to young to hang out right in the middle of the zona? I wanted to go up with her. Was I just being paranoid? Does Ribera have a rep for this kind of thing?
Try Candy in Adelitas, she is a little older (maybe 36) than the new wave of youngsters but she still has a good figure and she will probably go for .4 + .12 for the room. Ask her if she will do BJ without the cover and she will most likely say yes. If you offer .50, she may even do the BBBJ and let you bust another one with a cover inside her. Ask for her everyone there knows her. Take care of her she is a sweetie!!
[QUOTE=Bud Leeeeeeee]I have never tried but read many reviews on ***. They give more service. Daty, dfk, and my favorite BBBJ.
I can't hardly find any BBBJ. When I do its from a big older girl or the less then avg girl will stop and spit every 10secs. Funny at first but you never cause its lame as hell.
So where is everyone scoring BBBJ in TJ?[/QUOTE]
Hey, where is Viva Mex massage? Sounds like a good deal for a legit massage.
[QUOTE=John02]Try Candy in Adelitas, she is a little older (maybe 36) than the new wave of youngsters but she still has a good figure and she will probably go for .4 + .12 for the room[/QUOTE]
I'm sure Candy would be flattered to hear you think she's 36 but I would say she's closer to 45.
There are at lease two "Mermaids" massage and extras (M+E) places in TJ; One is almost directly across from AB (Zona location) and another is about 10-15 blocks away (8th Street location).
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A local mentioned to me his surprise at Mermaids pricing as follows:
1) Zona pricing at 40M + (80-120)E = (120-160)/hr/gringo, compared with
2) 8th Street location at 40M + 40E = 80/hr/local
The 8th Street location isn’t in the safest of areas for a gringo (fine in the daytime) yet the group there seems happy enough also to try and up the price. First they ask for 50M, act like its standard and often get it apparently; after that the Chica might ask 120E (even from good looking dudes).
Here’s the 8th Street Mermaids Workaround:
a) Confirm with all staff (entry and 2nd floor bar) you’ll only offer 40M. Do this before going upstairs (3rd floor) and refuse the service otherwise (they'll agree). Upstairs staff will still try the hustle but mention/remind of your concurrence with the others - note the entry staff seem to have the most pull.
b) Accept that the Chica will discuss 40-120E before starting; feign disappointment if it’s at the high end and say you’ll just take the 1 hour M
c) The Chica won’t be excited to hear this as she’ll have to do her regular job, loose the gringo bonus and also any “local level” extras she might otherwise have seen. The Chica has zero in her pocket at this point.
d) Make sure the top comes off as standard.
e) About 10min later around flip time (and if you’re into it) offer to give her M; that’s right give her M - she’ll be up for a break and M generally gets most anyone hot.
f) When she goes back to work on you your bargaining hand is substantially increased; she still hasn’t made any E, the clocks ticking, and suddenly she’s actually into it.
g) Local rate should be no problem at this point. Your only added cost is the time spent straddling a hot young chica while you massaged her – value ascribed to this cost will vary among individuals.
Massage Tip – Just do what she did.
Don’t know if the workaround might apply in the Zona Location; do however know that [(50-60)+11= (61-71) for AB@20-30min] << [40+40=80 for mermaids@60min]. Also the 8th Street location is actually quite comfortable once you’re inside (pool table, comfy leather chairs, few people, very relaxed atmosphere and a bar)
Pricing reference:
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[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=423737&postcount=16[/url]
(Not sure if this last link might have meant 80E above M)
It was my first time I bought a Cialis pill at the border pharmacy I don't remember the name but there are a few on the same street.
I took this pill and to be honest I couldn't tell the difference with or without the pill, I didn't feel any xtra power or something similar, I got worry and always thinking if they sold me the real thing or a fake pill?
I paid 13 for one, it came in a small box labeled Cialis, can anyone tell me how to spot the fake Cialis, I had the 20mg pill, and I waited a few minutes but my little friend never saw the difference?
After coming home from Cabo, see my report in the cabo section, I still had the urge for the latina culture. I headed down last Thursday. First stop a/b.. It was way better than the usual Sundays when I come down. There were more than a few hotties there. I also feel if I want a trophy f**k this is the place to be. Many good looking women were here tonight.
At the time I didn't want a trophy, so I headed over to l/c.. After being in a/b, the talent seem pretty low. I looked for Suzy but the waiter told me she doesn't work there anymore. It seems all the good ones I find leave after a month or two. Hopefully it isn't me. ( lol ).
After sitting for a half hour I decided on Melisa. A very cute blond. Went upstairs and the session was better than average but not spectacular. She did allow dfk, but only cbj. She didn't rush and at the end I paid her $600 pesos. Way better price than in cabo.
Next stop t/b.. There were only two cute girls I would have done but of course they were occupied. I stayed there for about an hour and left to get something to eat.
After dinner I went to h/k.. Yes, even on Thurday night they made you pay for a beer before going in. Talent was decent tonight. Here I picked Ruby. A short very pretty spinner. I bought her a drink and watched the lesbo whip cream show from the 2nd floor. She told me the two chicas were really lovers outside of work.
Again they brought up a brave soul to help them end the show. They brought down his pants and creamed him up exposing his privates. Brave soul indeed.
After the show I took her up. Again, better than average nothing great. She too allowed dfk but only offered cbj. Just like Melisa, this was a no rush session. I paid her $600 pesos also.
Once done, I now headed over to c/c.. I have been reading how this place seem to be going down hill but when I went inside the place was pretty full. They did have there share of hotties in the club. If I hadn't just finished a session, there were at least three chicas I would have done.
Before I forget, this was around 11:30 at night. I stayed for about an hour and retired for the night only to come back the next night. More on my next post.
Coming back the next day I wanted a good bbbj since I couldn't get one the night before. I saw Aricelli in the street, she recognized me, smiled and we headed for the hotel. She started to strip and I told her all I wanted was a bbbj. By then she had her panties off. She then proceeded to give me a great bbbj to completion with spit. Paid her $220 pesos and $30 pesos for the hotel. Nice little bargain.
Feeling good I went to get something to eat then head back to t/b.. Much better talent today but the one I wanted was again occupied. I did get her name. I believe she said Lilith. She is somewhat tall, blond hair and a very cute face. If anyone knows her, please let me know the details.
Since she wasn't going to be free anytime soon, I picked another spinner and for the life of me I can't remember her name. Her session was quite good but again cbj.. It's funny she would lick my balls and shaft without condom but when it came time for head, on came the cover. She is pretty much an animal in the bedroom. All kinds of positions, no rush, even after the knock she wanted to keep going. If it wasn't for the cbj, she would be at the top of my list. I paid her $600 pesos, no problem. I will definitly see her again, altough she says she is pretty busy most times. I can see why.
I was done and since it was early enough, I decided to take the mexicoach back in case the line was to long at the border. At least if there was a wait, I would be waiting sitting down. As I was walking to the Mexicoach station, I notice the Caliente race book now has slot machines. I didn't go inside, but from the outside, it looks like a bit of Vegas is now in tj..
Also before the Mexicoach, I notice Bambi's is again open and the one next door is open also but under another name. From the one woman who came out of Bambi's I still think they hire a bunch of tv's to work there. In case that is your thing.
Almost forgot, for you rio verde fans out there, it is also open. That's the good news. When I went inside, the bad news was there were only three girls inside. I asked the waitress if anymore chicas would be coming in, she said no. This was on Thursday night. Well thats it for now, hope this helped.
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Is there any way to line up an all nighter with a hottie down there?
Thanx.
Fellow Mongers
I will be traveling to TJ on June 22 - 25. I am looking forward to having some TJ chicas and maybe I'll see some of you mongers. What I am hearing now is that Adelitas are busy on Thursday nights thru the weekend. Maybe I'll try Chicago or Hong Kong.
Asian Shark
Why not try all three, then go back to your favorite?
[QUOTE=Asian Shark]Fellow Mongers
I will be traveling to TJ on June 22 - 25. I am looking forward to having some TJ chicas and maybe I'll see some of you mongers. What I am hearing now is that Adelitas are busy on Thursday nights thru the weekend. Maybe I'll try Chicago or Hong Kong.
Asian Shark[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Asian Shark]Fellow Mongers
I will be traveling to TJ on June 22 - 25. I am looking forward to having some TJ chicas and maybe I'll see some of you mongers. What I am hearing now is that Adelitas are busy on Thursday nights thru the weekend. Maybe I'll try Chicago or Hong Kong.
Asian Shark[/QUOTE]
AB is very busy on the weekends, day and night but especially at night. Chicago is dead until about 8:00pm and then starts to liven up. AB girls are generally considered the hottest, but you can find some nice talent at CC.
SlutFucker - see my post from about two weeks ago - "TLN in TJ". This gives you some good advice for how to line up a girl for a todo la noche (all night) session. Happy Hunting & please report back on your experiences.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Hornytraveler]It was my first time I bought a Cialis pill at the border pharmacy I don't remember the name but there are a few on the same street.
I took this pill and to be honest I couldn't tell the difference with or without the pill, I didn't feel any xtra power or something similar, I got worry and always thinking if they sold me the real thing or a fake pill?
I paid 13 for one, it came in a small box labeled Cialis, can anyone tell me how to spot the fake Cialis, I had the 20mg pill, and I waited a few minutes but my little friend never saw the difference?[/QUOTE]
HornyTraveller - From the sounds of it, you got the real deal. Single Cialis tablets are sold in a small box. Inside the box is a single yellow, triangular-shaped tablet with a "C" on one side and a 20 on the other side. The tablet is packaged in a blister.
You may not have noticed anything unless you try for like 3-4 pops. Then you really notice it. As well, the tablet doesn't work by itself - it only helps you keep it up after you are, well, stimulated.
Haven't heard of any fake Cialis coming out of TJ, so my advice is to give it another try. Next time, try one of the Farmacias in Pharmacy Alley just after you exit the turnstiles (on the right) when you walk across.
Blue Nose
I second what Blue Nose said - Cialis doesn't make an immediate difference, only makes an impact after you've got a hardon. If you want to feel a difference, in a more immediate way, go with viagra. You'll be walking around with wood, whether you want it or not!!! LOL!!!!
was in tj for a few hours and had a great time at ab...as someone said, its the place to get a trophy lay, but you must be direct with teh guirls, they know they are hot and they speed things up and make a lot of rules to get you in and out fast. i went over to a place called "purple rain", they have alot of english speakers and real friendly with its own hotel but its a scam. you goo in and they lineup the girls which are 6-8's and then explain thats its 45 for one hour massage and you deal with the girl upfront for extra. well sounds great but once in the room and getting that "massage", they pull out teh price list which is 60 for hj, 80 for cbj and over 120 for "full service". thats over 150 to get some panocha, hell no. stick to street walkers and ab for pleasure.
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]HornyTraveller - From the sounds of it, you got the real deal. Single Cialis tablets are sold in a small box. Inside the box is a single yellow, triangular-shaped tablet with a "C" on one side and a 20 on the other side. The tablet is packaged in a blister.
You may not have noticed anything unless you try for like 3-4 pops. Then you really notice it. As well, the tablet doesn't work by itself - it only helps you keep it up after you are, well, stimulated.
Haven't heard of any fake Cialis coming out of TJ, so my advice is to give it another try. Next time, try one of the Farmacias in Pharmacy Alley just after you exit the turnstiles (on the right) when you walk across.
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]Blue Nose you're right again!
I was expecting to get it up within 10 minutes later after my first pop, but I guess it doesn't work that way even if you want to, forgot I was human!
The good news it did work for me good but it lasted about 2 days, the bad news is Mr Pecker was getting happy at home for no reason. LOL,LOL
Thank you for the warning Chame. I was in TJ for three days this past week and did take a walk in there to look around, but told them I was only there to look. I did not investigate very deeply.
I spent the three days staying in the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago. All reports about the place are accurate and I highly recommend it. Many Americans stay there and bring their chicas in. The hotel staff work to keep unwanted people out.
There needs to be a separate section for TJ hotels on this board.
I am interested in Rosarito. What would be the taxi fare from zona norte? What are the best places to go? (hottest raunchiest filthiest cheapest girls!!!!) (Yeah baby- Yeah ah ah!!!!) Where are the best stage shows?
I am interested in some really raunchy action with a hot girl in TJ (anal possibly?)
What (who) is my best bet??
Thanks a lot guys.
T-bolt
I went to rosarito last Nov. but I took a chica from the zona with me. The taxi ride was $25.00 usd one way. You can also catch the Mexicoach. The bus ride is only $6.00 usd per person one way.
Since I took a chica, we basically stayed in the hotel except when we went out to eat. Recommended, take a side trip to Puerto Nuevo and have the lobster dinner there.
Q
Thanks Quack!
Anybodyelse been to Rosarito? Where the raunchy chicas hang out?
Thanks,
T-bolt
I'm planing on heading to TJ later this week and though I'v been to the Zona many times I'v generaly stayed with the tried and true - i,.e. AB, CC, HK, et. al.I'd like to expand my horizons and try some LTCs (La Toda Noches) thogh I'v heard ther's some good and bad. Can any one name some of the better ones for a newbie in this field?
Also, concerning perscriptons, I always play it safe down there. I alys see a Mexican Dr. and have them write me one up. They're done in triplicate. One stays withe the Dr., one with the Pharmacy and the third with the customer to prove he is compying with mexican law (alays keep a back-up copy in case some dick wants to screw with me and take my original). I have never had any trouble crossing the US border this way.
I'm I being naive in thinking I am complyng with the law or could I still get my but thrown in a TJ.
I'm planing on heading to TJ later this week and though I'v been to the Zona many times I'v generaly stayed with the tried and true - i,.e. AB, CC, HK, et. al.I'd like to expand my horizons and try some LTCs (La Toda Noches) thogh I'v heard ther's some good and bad. Can any one name some of the better ones for a newbie in this field?
Also, concerning perscriptons, I always play it safe down there. I alys see a Mexican Dr. and have them write me one up. They're done in triplicate. One stays withe the Dr., one with the Pharmacy and the third with the customer to prove he is compying with mexican law (alays keep a back-up copy in case some dick wants to screw with me and take my original). I have never had any trouble crossing the US border this way.
I'm I being naive in thinking I am complyng with the law or could I still get my but thrown in a TJ jail for a god long time
I'm planing on heading to TJ later this week and though I'v been to the Zona many times I'v generaly stayed with the tried and true - i,.e. AB, CC, HK, et. al.I'd like to expand my horizons and try some LTCs (La Toda Noches) thogh I'v heard ther's some good and bad. Can any one name some of the better ones for a newbie in this field?
Also, concerning perscriptons, I always play it safe down there. I alys see a Mexican Dr. and have them write me one up. They're done in triplicate. One stays withe the Dr., one with the Pharmacy and the third with the customer to prove he is compying with mexican law (alays keep a back-up copy in case some dick wants to screw with me and take my original). I have never had any trouble crossing the US border this way.
I'm I being naive in thinking I am complyng with the law or could I still get my but thrown in a TJ jail for a while
Found a gringa tricking off of the alley(on the hill) last Friday. I did not catch her name, however, she claimed to be originally from Maryland, and currently resides in Pt. Loma. Also, only works 3 weekdays out of the week. WTF?
Times are tough, I guess...
[Anybody else been to Rosarito?]
Rosarito can be fun. There's some good places for cheap fresh seafood and there are atleast two clean resort type hotels.
The last time I went, a waiter at one of the restaurants at the Plaza Fiesta recommended a little strip place called Chicks N' Beer. I don't know if the place is still there but it's a great place to kill time. There are some 7's-10's at that place and I found out that if you have a good rapport with your server (remember his name), there's some 1st rate take-out that can be arranged.
If you don't want take-out, the VIP room can be a lot of fun if you pick a "fun" girl.
The only drawback to this joint is that most of the girls allow community feeding when they're doing their stage show. That means that a girl might come up to you and give you a mouthful of 10 other guys' spit.
Have fun.
Spent 2 days (the past weekend) in TJ, and thanks for O'Tools Guide, I had a good time. I would like to feed back to the forum since O'Tools might be somewhat outdated. It is still extremely useful though. Being a Canadian without any spanish and experience even in SoCal, I owe O'Tool big time.
Accommodation:
I stayed at the Days Inn in Chula Vista Friday and Saturday nights. The rate after tax is 108usd, above my budget. The room is small; decor is old. The worst part is the shower, which runs with a cycle of 20 secondw with very cold and very hot water, sufficient to cause a third degree burn. If I didn't have my luggage with me, some TJ hotels could be a better option.
Parking:
Accurate information. I parked at the first lot though where the TJ shutter is, because of the light and the traffic, which provide perhaps a false sense of security. I didn't have no trouble though. The drawback is it is quite a walk when coming back from Mexico. It is fine in the day, but walking alone after midnight was kind of scary. The rate is 7 usd perday. The recommend lot by O'Tool has gone up to 9usd.
Entering Mexico:
No problem at all. It was a leisure walk around noon, when the temperature was just right.
Taxi:
5 usd to Adelita and 5 back to Sentra. Taxi driver knew where I was heading to as soon as I got into the car.
Adelita:
The best Amongst the 3 I have been: Adelita, Chicago and Hong Kong. I watched Mexico vs Angelo there. All girls were available for hugs and kisses during the game.
There were also good selections there, slightly more at night though. Picked a hottie, blonde of 24 years from ???. She told me, but I could not catch the name. She started with oral, then cowgirl, doggie and the traditional to end the 30 minute session. Total damage was 60 usd plus 12 usd for room and 2 usd for tips (?) to the guy wearing a security vest.
I did another girl, aged 21 at night, and again the usual routines and same damage. O'Tool is right. The hard bodied hottie frequented at the central while the college type ones stayed at the back. I was very interested in a young college look girl with a pretty face. She is not tall but turns myfantasy on. No luck because she was occupied and then taken out.
Girls were very aggressive. At least half of them had approached me for drinks or going up.
Beer is 3.75 usd. Girls drinks are 7.
Chicago:
No talent at all. Very disappointing and very quiet. I left before mid-night, but according to O'Tool, hot girls would come in after the wee hours.
Hong Kong:
I was confused with the system there, since I don't speak spanish. Is it a strip club only? Is there a hotel upstairs, just like Adelita and Chicago? I spent all my one dollar note there. Also had a girl to dance for me for 2 songs. 20 usd damage.
Beer is 4 usd, with buy one get one free promotion. girls drinks are 7, I believe.
HK is not a bad place to past time. I stayed there for about 4 hours each day and the total was about 40. Not bad. Unlike Adelita, girls there were not aggressive.
Alley:
Quality is extremely poor. There were at least 200 of them any time during the day or at night, but none of them was worth banging. I did 2 though. The first one was a Mayan, very short with very small tilts. We agreed 20 plus 5 for the room plus 1 for the tips. She would take her her skirt and asked me for 10 more for removing her tops and 10 more for oral. It is O'Tools fault he didn't tell us newbies how to monger in the alley. I refused, but kept banging her for 20 minutes before finish. After I walked out, I remember the phrase sina ropa.
The second time was a young 19 year old with a typical native face and very dark skin. I asked for the top removed before striking a deal and she agreed. Damn it. I forgot to ask for oral, another mistake, which cost me 10.
Food:
It seems taco is the only thing available in Mexico. 1 dollar a piece. I am not sure if I over paid. The most "exciting" part was the oyster cocktail. Back home, oyster is cheap and I love it. I spent an hour before the stall watching mexican and grave american eating the cocktail, before I decided to give it a try. I didn't get sick though. Lucky me.
Overall experience:
Not bad. Quality wise, Eastern Europe is better. Cost wise, DR and Asia are cheaper. Next time I have to go to LA for meetings again, I will pop by TJ for sure. It is geographical so close. That's it.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
Does anyone knows how much is a prescription in TJ?
And where in the border is the nearest clinic?
Why do I need a prescription in TJ when you don't really need one, I'm thinking to buy blood pressure medicine, this is an average drug I shouldn't have any problem I guess ? But maybe someone knows better?
I can take an empty bottle with me to TJ with the medicine brand and with ny name on it in case the policia want to give me a hard time, can always show that I'm currently talking the drug and is legally prescribed by a U.S doctor. I'm new to it so if you know the best and safest way to do it please pm me some info thanks.
[QUOTE=Amerioca]Found a gringa tricking off of the alley(on the hill) last Friday. I did not catch her name, however, she claimed to be originally from Maryland, and currently resides in Pt. Loma. Also, only works 3 weekdays out of the week. WTF? Times are tough, I guess...[/QUOTE]
Hang out enough there and you'll see an american almost every time near the alley. Always trying to either get drugs or a hook up to buy drugs. And they're always in shitty shape from being short on dope. Cops don't care, they're spread out or sitting on the corner slumped over like a rag doll - and everyone just keeps walking.
Of course, she's dressed like a ****, isn't from there, and clearly has a habit.
Now, you're in a country with scarce resources, babe (bless your heart). I don't see outreach coming to take any girls to rehab. It's got to be an awful position to be in.
Has anyone see a woman named Lisa near the alley? She's about 39 y/o, mexican american - very fair skin with big juggs, wavy hair & tattoos on her tits (Ricardo in cursive). I fucked her last year in a hotel on the alley. She was from san diego - a DJ she said. But living in TJ, and generally didn't go to the states. Interesting. I figured she was either hiding out from the law or keeping close to a supply. She enjoyed our sex so much she actually invited me to her apartment a few blocks away next to the Molina. Unfortunately, she had a boyfriend who payed for many of her expenses & got in the way. So, my multiple encounter got cut short. Just interested to see if she was still around.
What i heard is that you need a prescription from a Mexican doctor. To play it safe I would also take my American precription so that if you're stopped at the border, you're covered either way.
Next time I go I intend to ask one of the larger pharmacies how to get a prescription, But maybe someone here already knows??
[QUOTE=Whoopster]What i heard is that you need a prescription from a Mexican doctor. To play it safe I would also take my American precription so that if you're stopped at the border, you're covered either way.
Next time I go I intend to ask one of the larger pharmacies how to get a prescription, But maybe someone here already knows??[/QUOTE]
Legally, you are allowed to purchase 50units(not 90days anymore) of meds to be brought back to the US with a US script if asked for it. Do not try to bring back scheduled CII meds and anabolic steriods without a US script. You do not need a US script for non-scheduled meds. Again legally, you need to get a Mex script(a US script is no good) for all meds purchased in TJ/Mex or a $hakedown is a high possibility because it is illegal to purchase meds w/o one.
You can ask any of the pharms to direct you to a mex doc that will write you a script for $20-$25 per 1 med.
Guys,
The Mexican Federal elections are coming up next weekend. I believe that Sunday July 2nd is the day they go to the polls. I don't want to be accused of sprading false information, but I believe all bars in the country must be CLOSED that day, including ones in the zone. If you're heading down to TJ for the Independence Day weekend, you may want to plan on doing something else on Sunday. There may still be some SG action, but I would imagine most of the clubs will be closed unless they are not serving alcohol (unlikely). I have never been there on an election day, so I do not know for sure. This is just what I hear from the locals.
Depending on the outcome of the election, you may see their currency stay where it is now (~10.5 pesos / USD) or it may fall significantly as it has in the past. Stay tuned.
Blue Nose
I live in Tijuana, and this is what I'm hearing about the election: Bars will be closed thoughout Mexico, but Tijuana will be the exception. The reason is that since Tijuana is so close to the border and the election is so close to July 4th, the area will lose too much money. The only areas allowed to be open, however, are in the entertainment zones (Revolucion, Zona Norte).
I'm not stating this as fact, but this is what the locals are telling me.
[QUOTE=Blue Nose], but I believe all bars in the country must be CLOSED that day, including ones in the zone.
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
Mexico's state and federal electoral code used to mandate dry elections but the laws have been changed. Bars in Baja California were open during the last state wide elections so I expect the same will be the case this time for the federal election.
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]Guys,
Depending on the outcome of the election, you may see their currency stay where it is now (~10.5 pesos / USD) or it may fall significantly as it has in the past.
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]For the last month it's been above 11.0 and rocks this week around 11.3.
Currency will probably fall but not by very much. My guess is 11 pesos to the dollar.
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]I was in Cabo during the last election when alcohol sales was prohibited.[/QUOTE]
I'll take your word for it but Cabo is in a different state than Tijuana, Ensenada etc. As I said below alcohol sales were business as usual for the last elections in the state of Baja California.
Tijuana is in Baja California Norte, so that would make it a different state from where Cabo is.
[QUOTE=Mutha Foo]Currency will probably fall but not by very much. My guess is 11 pesos to the dollar.[/QUOTE]
Mutha Foo - I think it will depend on who wins. If Calderone (same party as Fox) prevails, then currency will probably stabilize. If Lopes Obrador wins then that's a differnent story altogether. That dude sounds like a watered down version of Hugo Chavez, so he is making all the business people very uneasy. If he prevails, look for a flight of capital from Mexico, increased unemployment and a falling peso. Right now, it's too close to call, although the smart money has the crazy guy a few points ahead. Depending on who wins, things may just become a little cheaper for us gabachos!
Blue Nose
Dunno, but all I know is that TJ will be shut down on Sunday and I guess I'll spend my time and my dime at Harrah's.
Tijuana, being the ***** that she is, will be wide open for business this election weekend (but do stay away as I'd like Adelita's all to myself this saturday...) :)
Sorrry guys this is going to be a little long winded but it took me a couple of years to get the info I am fairly certain is accurate. By the way, thouhg I dont' usualy admiti it, I am 50 some years old, grew up in La, have been going to Mexico since I was 17 and not to sound too arrrogont but have seen more of Meico than anyy native I'v run into. My longest trip was a solo dowm to Oxaca and back (about 2500 - 3000 miles each way in an old "64 bug, - can't remember -iitwas 25 years ago,. Iv'e alos driven the Baja and been to just about every other touist trap you can name Like i said , not trying to blow my own horn but I have had much experience wirh threir "customs".
Firs of all US scripts by law are not valid down there. Perhaps the Farmacias will accept them, Iv' never tried. But my experiancne has been that if you have a US script have it filled in the US. I usa COSTCO and have found their prices to be about 25 to 30% less than what I pay in TJ. Why waste the money on Gas, nerves, et, at.
Trying to friend a "gingo" friendly Farmacia is not only stupid but a waste of time and money (believe me - been thre done that). They tack on the Dr,s fee and you'r walking around with illegal drugswich can land you in a TJ prison for many moons.besides that, you're smuggling illegal drugs back into the US wich can get to into some heavy trouble here!
I've found the easiest and safest way to get them is to go to a reputable Farmacie and tell them of course you,rre from out of town (duh) and ask the for a Dr. rcomenationn. They'll give you one usually a street or two away (they) want the bus too (I use Farmacia Internatinanal at 3rd and Rvolution - If anyone watns a couple of Dr. names addresse etc. You can PM me at Jackson's other site USASexGuide.info - I'm omly a low life regular member on this board and don't have tht "privledge" should be able to PM at his other site USAsxguide.info. No offense Jackson. You probably earn less than you deserve.
Anyaway, The Dr. will ask you a few simple qestions, usually charge you about $30 or so. They make 3 copies. One for their records, one for the Farmacia and the third for your records in case th Policia stop you, you are legal (though this doesn't mean squat in Mexico) Yet one national who seemed he know what he was talking about told me the best approach if this happens is to not show any sign of fear or weaknes, the cops dowm there aren't stupid and don't wmt to waste ther time and know that there are too many idiots on the street to waste their time wiith someone who acts like they know what they are doing.
My Dr. on the other hand brlives it's easier to pay "la gripa" Get their badge # and report them to the US consolate ASAP. The decision depends on you and your frme of mind at time.
One last thing of some interest. The hardest info to find was from the US side soI finally stopped (aftre I crossed th border) I polity asked the what the US policy was abuot birnging back scripts without a US Dr, presciption. I used the line that I was going to have some dental work down there and woud need some drugs and wanted to play it bty the book. They kept putting me off (don't want to ginve out that info - hell try checking their webiste or giving them a call and you'll get no info) Anyway after politely grilling for 5 or 10 minute they finaly told me tht any perscrption that was legal in the US was also legal if perscribed by Mexica Dr, and you had the paperwork.
Since then when I come across an if they ask if i ha any thing to decare (Which they only do about 50% of the time, I sat tht I have 'a presciption for personal use'. I've hear they can send you to secondary wich is no big deak cause you're legal but thry have always let me pass righy on through.
Sorry, told you it would bee long winded, but hopeit has helped some of you out,
If any body has any other info or can correct any info I' attempted to relay.
Thanks for youir time. My next report will be on my trip to TJ last Tues. and will be a lot more fun t read, Adelita's was great - there really ia close to a 1 to 1 ratio (Girls to guys) insted of the weekend 10 to and most of them were really hot, SW''s were out there too many of them the usual pglets but some really hot onrs that looked boares-d an ready to baragain.
What I really had fun with where some drunkenf Gingas, They really like to let the hair down on theat side of the border . Got to find out where to meet some more othem! Any info would be welcomed. Enjoy!
Pump
The truth is you don't need any mexican scripts, just buy a small 90 days supply, and don't buy any drugs that can be use recreational, like vicodin, antideprasants, valiums, xanax, etc, these drugs can get you in trouble with or without a prescription, just don't do it, they know what are the drugs for ,and a mexican script wont save your ass from going to jail, TJ cops don't care if you got them legal or not, they're corrupted and they just need an excuse to clean your wallet!
If you need cheap medicine buy only drugs that are for basic use like medicine for hypertension, diabetes, allergies etc, and only in small amounts, all the other hard drugs you're taking a risk in tj and at the line, always take an empty medicine bottle with you with you name on it, so you can show the LE that you need that drug , and better yet fill you empty bottle with same medicine, so this way you can double the amount without problems.
I never was asked for a prescription in any TJ pharmacies, so there's no rules enforced, they just want your $$ for a worthless piece of paper, that wont garantee you anything, the laws in Mexico are a joke, you got NO RIGHTS, it's not the USA , so the best way to save your ass in TJ is be polite, respectfull, and give them a tip if they ask for one to keep the cops happy , if you start acting like an idiot, or threating them with whatever legal B.S, you just getting deeper in the shit!
[QUOTE=Mutha Foo]Dunno, but all I know is that TJ will be shut down on Sunday [/QUOTE]
Tijuana Mayor Jorge Hank Rhon has confirmed that bars will be open as usual this weekend. As I posted previously the state and federal electoral laws were changed to permit alcohol sales over election weekend.
Haven't been to TJ of late. Is a passport now the standard?
I used to just flash my driver's license and am through.
Thanks.
ps
Just wanted to post a confirmation here. I went to TJ on Election Day, Sunday, July 2 and stayed the whole night. Everything was open, it was completely business as normal in Zona Norte and on Revolución. There is no more [b]Ley Seca[/b] (Dry Law) for Tijuana even for this national presidential election.
The crowds were espescially light in Zona Norte, I suppose some mongers stayed away thinking it was closed.
Plasma,
You don't need a passport. You may need one at the end of '07, but I don't think that it will ever happen. Every so often, you'll get a border guard saying that you have to prove your citizenship, and that a driver's license does not do this. If you stand your ground, and say that passports are not required yet, they'll back down.
Heading over there this weekend. Maybe I'll see some of you guys there.
PS
A law was passed in for jan1, 2006, that passport was needed, but due to complications, and misunderstanding they have allowed you to come back with a little hassle.
But as of jan 1, 2007 these laws will be strictly enforced, get a passport, fairly cheapand do not get hassled it is the easiest thing to do.
Seems like a pain but what the hell.
The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 requires that by January 1, 2008, travelers to and from the Caribbean, Bermuda, Panama, Mexico and Canada have a passport or other secure, accepted document to enter or re-enter the United States. In order to facilitate the implementation of this requirement, the Administration is proposing to complete it in phases following a proposed timeline, which will be published in the Federal Register in the near future.
In the proposed implementation plan, which is subject to a period of initial public comment, the Initiative will be rolled out in phases, providing as much advance notice as possible to the affected public to enable them to meet the terms of the new guidelines. The proposed timeline will be as follows:
* December 31, 2006 - Requirement applied to all air and sea travel to or from Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda.
* December 31, 2007 - Requirement extended to all land border crossings as well as air and sea travel.
This is a change from prior travel requirements and will affect all United States citizens entering the United States from countries within the Western Hemisphere who do not currently possess valid passports. This new requirement will also affect certain foreign nationals who currently are not required to present a passport to travel to the United States. Most Canadian citizens, citizens of the British Overseas Territory of Bermuda, and to a lesser degree, Mexican citizens will be affected by the implementation of this requirement.
When having fun in TJ, do you guys pay in Pesos or dollars? What about hotels?
Thanks.
PS
[quote=plasma spray]when having fun in tj, do you guys pay in pesos or dollars? what about hotels?[/quote]pesos or dollars, it doesn't matter. just remember that you never want to pay the askinig price. man-up and play hardball when it comes to negotiating or else you'll be branded a wimp. and that's no way to start a 30 or 60 minute relationship, trust me.
be it a hooker or a taxi-cab driver, never give anyone the chance to slap the "dumb tourist" label on your head. nothing wrong with being a tourist. it's the "dumb" part that'll cost you extra money. (or worse, if you're around the wrong people.)
if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile and all of that and then some, ya know what i mean? just keep in mind that a few of the ab putas are known for their boxing skills when they engage a fellow puta in a catfight.
it's always best to be a subtle ball buster (or panocha disciplinarian) than a wimp. be sure to always temper your manhood with distinct, incremental doses of kindness. think of yourself as a baseball pitcher when negotiating with a puta. one with a blazing fastball that scares the beejeezus out of everyone. and an off speed pitch that keeps the batter, or in this case the chica, slightly bewildered but yet always respectful.
if an ab/cc chica wants 60 bucks hold firm at 40 or 50 bucks. walk away if she doesn't give in. you have what she has a desperate need for: money. money for rent, money for food, money to feed her 2 little kids.
plus there are always other girls just a few feet away who are just as hungry for your dollar. this theory is reinforced on days when the demand is equal or less than the supply.
on that note, try not to monger on a friday, saturday, or sunday night. daytime is where you'll find the demand is less for the services of a chica then there is a supply of drunken horndogs ready to reach for their wallet.
ab has a hotel for you and your girl right upstairs. it's 11 bucks for a room.
Started my night off at home with a shower and some alcohol. Drinking while getting ready after my shower gave me a nice buzz.
headed off the the ATM, and a quick stop at the gas station to break my 20 (need those smaller bills for the taxi) and a red bull.
im already in San Diego, so its just down the 805 to the border. I save the red bull until arriving at the border. I park in the 7 dollar lot right off the freeway. Im ready to start my solo trip.
I walk through the border to the Taxi stand. I dont mind the 5 dollar charge, even though I hear there is a cheaper taxi company somewhere. I tell the man 'Adelitas' and we are off. He pulls right up to ABs and I go in and order a beer.
I walk around, hit the bathroom, finish my beer (3.50 + .50 for tip) slowly, and take in the sights. A decent strip show is going on, but nothing terrific. The girls were spread out and 'hottie central' wasnt as crowded with chicks as it normally is. I suppose its about 10:30pm at this point. Its full of people as normal on a friday night. I get a few looks from girls hoping I take them, but thats not my plan. I knew already I wanted to go cheap and bang a streetwalker. This was just a warm-up.
I walked out of ABs after a while, and head over to Chicago, where I grab another beer. Best selection of chicks I have seen at Chicagos, but this was only my second time there. 3 bucks for a beer here. I stand over to the side, admire and drink. I finish my beer and head out.
Up next is Miami, cuz I hadnt been there yet. Place sucks. More for locals I guess. Plenty of porkers here, but if thats your thing - this is your place. Miami will sell you a beer before you get in to the place (its the cover charge). I had no problems paying the 3 bucks for a cool one because that all I came there for. I sit in a booth and just kinda chill for a minute. This lady comes right up to me and tells me 50 for her and her friend, sucky fucky, lesbian, everything. Great deal, except this chick was a little heavy and her friend was even worse. I say 'no thanks, I'm just here to drink'. I then notice that Miami Bar and Hong Kong are connected...there is a door than allows access to both places. I head over to HKs because there are like 3 girls stripping. I finish my beer and watch the show. At this point, im pretty drunk and ready to bang.
I'm out HKs and on to the alley. I do a full walk around of the block, and get plenty of "chtt chtt" (the girls make this sound to attract you), and they even have some peice of rubber that they snap in their hands as you walk by. Again, this little sound is meant to attract you over to them. They dont ever really leave the wall they are standing at. You have to go up to them. There seems to be a difference of the two sides of the alley street - one has the nicer lookin chicks, the other side has the uglier ones. A couple of chicks did however grab my shirt and pretty aggresively tried to hook up. I always say no because I prefer to do my own shopping, instead of being sold to. On my second circle of the block, i pick a smaller chick with nice makeup, a nice ass and skinny legs.
I ask her how much, she say 20 for her, 6 for the room. DEAL! I agree and we head to the room, making small talk but nothing serious. She asks my name and where Im from. I ask hers. Just basic politeness.
The room is fine - this was my second street girl ever and I dont pay attention to the hotel. I just want to bang! I undress but she keeps her top on (its cheaper this way...if u want her naked, sin ropa costs more). she helps me get hard, puts the condom on, a dab of KY, and its off to the races.
Im fucking the shit out of her, and like to go chest-to-chest missionary because I get good pentration that way. I was often tempted to kiss her chest and neck but she says something in spanish that basically means no. thats cool, i dont mind it. I just breathe on her hot and heavy and continue to bang away. she was nice and tight and it was fun. I bust and make sure to take my pants in with me to the bathroom. Last time the streetgirl I was with went in my pockets and took my condom but actually left my wallet and money. This time, im not risking anything.
I drees, thank her and head out of the hotel. As soon as I hit the corner, this chick grabs my arm and is practically beggin me to let her suck my dick. Obviously i just finished and managed to get away from this desperate lady.
I head back to the front of ABs and signal a white taxi. He seems to be heading over to me but a Policia guy flashes the driver in the faces with his flashlight and signals for him to keep moving. the Policia guy asks me nicely if I need a taxi. I kinda picked up on what happened here, but I politely tell him yes, thank you. He brings me over to a yellow cab. I'm guessin the Policia has a pact with the more expensive taxi company, but i didnt really care. I reach the border, pay the driver his 5, and walk back to my car and head home. (first to jack-in-the-box tho!)
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
You'll do better if you pay in pesos. Let's say a street girl asks for $20.00. She will accept 200 pesos or the $20.00. But, if you give her $20.00, you'll be giving her more than 220 pesos (at the current exchange rate). It won't matter too much when buying drinks in bars because they usually adjust their price according to current rate.
Don't ask for change (from pesos to dollars) so that you can tip the dancers. It won't work in your favor (at least, it doesn't at HK)
Gents,
Will have approx 4 days dead time in the TJ area in August. On my first, and last, visit in April I paid a couple visits to one of the Team Juanita ladies and was thoroughly impressed. (Mia, in case you're wondering). I would like to do the same again but for a weekend get-away, 1 or 2 nights, possibly to a resort?
Am sorry to say I haven't been exposed to, therefore speak, no Spanish. Have done my share of seed sewing in other parts, but only the 2 trips to TJ last April.
Any pointers on where I should look, and how much to expect to pay? Recommendations by name and reputation would be great.
Would happily return to Mia, but don't know if she's available for days at a time, and expect it would be quite expensive. Will likley ask anyway.
Thanks in Advance,
T.
[QUOTE=Taiko]Gents,
Will have approx 4 days dead time in the TJ area in August. On my first, and last, visit in April I paid a couple visits to one of the Team Juanita ladies and was thoroughly impressed. (Mia, in case you're wondering). I would like to do the same again but for a weekend get-away, 1 or 2 nights, possibly to a resort?
Am sorry to say I haven't been exposed to, therefore speak, no Spanish. Have done my share of seed sewing in other parts, but only the 2 trips to TJ last April.
Any pointers on where I should look, and how much to expect to pay?
Recommendations by name and reputation would be great.
Would happily return to Mia, but don't know if she's available for days at a time, and expect it would be quite expensive. Will likley ask anyway.
Thanks in Advance,
T.[/QUOTE]I'm a short timer, so I don't have much info to offer. I do know that snagging a girl for two whole nights like you could in Thailand would be hard to do in TJ. Some bar girls would be very leery in accepting an offer like the one you have in mind.
For one, she doesn't know you and thus would be a little hesitant. Two, the demand for her services far exceeds the supply, meaning she could make more money doing multiple short times than she could spending two days and two nights alone with you.
A TLN (an all-nighter) is not out of the question.
If you're repeating with a bar girl that is a favorita, you could get her for as low as 100 bucks. But that is a best case scenario, rare, and only with a guy she knows well, has a good feel for, at the end of her workshift. Obviously, as a one time visitor to TJ, you're not that guy.
You could always go that route anyway and alot of guys do.
They'll wait till the girls shift is about to end and then they make their pitch for a TLN. Most of the guys who are successful at that are the ones who play in the Zona Norte on a regular basis and one who the girl can readily identify. We're talking major facial recognition. Think about that for a moment. They will be your competition. And they're the ones you'll have to beat.
Suffice to say that someone like you will need to have all the stars aligned in order to accomplish your mission. And you'd better have a backup plan in case you're a lousy salesman. That's not to say that a newbie like yourself will fail at this. You might succeed. You're just going to have to weigh the odds beforehand and have a fail-safe plan in place.
You're best bet would be to go with an agency girl, though it will get expensive as you're paying for both the girl and the agencies prorprietor.
Report back and let us all know what the agencies are charging for a TLN and a two day/two nighter.
Thanks Crash. I will let you know what the agencies say. Guess I'll resign myself to the standard fair.
T.
As a long time monger of tj, I have to say exellent report. I have often done this although, by the time I have my chica, drink and walk around. I am to damm tired, and drunk. Get taxi go to hotel Zaragoza, where by the way is chica friendly.
You can park your car here and they have 2 or 3 security guards there watching.
Any way fellows good luck good hunting
[QUOTE=Taiko]Thanks Crash. I will let you know what the agencies say. Guess I'll resign myself to the standard fair.
T.[/QUOTE]Cancel that request for the agency rate inquirement, Taiko.
I just got ahold of a few TJ escort agency links. I haven't checked them all out extensively, but one agency does list their rates. Maybe all of them do, I don't know. I can shed a little light on them, but at the present, time doesn't permit me to delve into the matter.
You should know that of the three, two I know for certain are run by Americans who went down there and set up shop. The third one I'm not so sure about.
American run escort services in TJ is a very recent development when you consider how many years it's been since Adam and Eve got together. I surmise the oldest American run escort agency is right around 4 years old or so.
And I'm defining an American run escort agency as follows:
1) It's run by an American, obviously
2) It has a full stable of girls. "Full" would be defined as right around 10 or more
3) It has a communication system set up where you have virtual direct access, either by phone or email
4) They advertise globally, so businessmen in all around the world can plan their next mongering move when they come to TJ
5) They have a web-site. Having a web-site enables them to meet requirement #4
In this one web-site, I believe one owner said he's had his agency up and running for 10 years. Now either I didn't read that right, which is possible, or he's fibbing about the ten year history.
I know for a fact that his web-site is not that old, and hey, where am I going with this because in the big scheme of things it really doesn't matter. Salesmen tend to embellish things when they're going for the gold, as we all know.
I have zero experience with these girls, so everyone out there is on their own. As usual, YMMV, which always hammers home the true reality of it all. Especially after your head stops spinning from having spent a whole hell of alot of time considering the never ending list of information to consider.
[url]http://teamjuanitaonline.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.bestescortstijuana.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.cumintj.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Taiko]Gents,
Will have approx 4 days dead time in the TJ area in August. On my first, and last, visit in April I paid a couple visits to one of the Team Juanita ladies and was thoroughly impressed. (Mia, in case you're wondering). I would like to do the same again but for a weekend get-away, 1 or 2 nights, possibly to a resort? [/QUOTE]
Taiko - I think you are better off looking for a TLN session in and around TJ rather than a stay in a resort. First off, there are no "resorts" in the immediate area around the zone. The closest one is about 25 miles away in Rosarito, and few chicas would be willing to venture that far with a guy they just met (although maybe some from the escort services might).
Your best bet is to go for a TLN session. See my post from mid-May on this forum for my techniques on how to get a TLN girl. This works for me, but is by no means the only way to go about it. If you use this approach, you will pay no more than about $140 for the whole night with a mid-level girl (7-7.5). If you want a higher quality girl you will pay more. If your session is good the first night, and you have a good connection with the girl, there is the possibility that she might go somewhere with you the second night.
If you do use an escort service, please post a report as I am hearing good things about them, but very few actual TRs.
Do your research on this forum before you go, have fun and be safe.
Blue Nose
Both cumintj and Team Juanita quoted me no discount at all for multiple hours. The base rate is $150 per hour, so TLN (12 hours) was quoted $1800 and a 24-hour date was $3600.
I am not sure how many of these agencies are related. Many of them have the same girls available. For example, Tania (on Team Juanita) and Itzel (cumintj) have been reported to do an excellent two-girl special.
I just returned from a quick TJ trip. My report on my experience with cumintj is coming soon.
I went down south this past Saturday. The good news is, the taxi drivers who park near the Mcdonalds when you go to the right to enter Tj, were asking for only $3.00 usd to go to centro. It's about time the greedy bastard came down. I guess the taxi libres are having an affect on them.
The bad news, it was so crowded, especially in a/b, many girls were asking $70.00 usd. I don't usually go to a/b but I had a friend who loves it there. Not only is it crowded there, but it was so hot also. That day was not a buyers market. Because it was so hot, I stayed outside in the peanut gallery and timed some of the guys who went up. Average, about 20 minutes. I do admit, a/b still has the best looking girls on average.
We also went to t/b and l/c.. At t/b there were a few cuties but of course they were ocuppied. At l/c I was able to hook up with a very pretty girl named Melissa. Tall, slim with black hair. She said she has been there for two months.
We go upstairs and she goes to the bathroom. I take my clothes off anticipating the fun I will be having. She comes out and ask for the money first. I tell her I don't pay first, always at the end. She insist on the payment up front but me being stubborn and getting bad service when I did pay first, I told her no. She is probably the first girl in over a year to ask for the money first. Anyways I stood my ground, she stood hers, end of session without anything happening.
As we walk downstairs I ask the counter guy to give back the money. He says they don't do that anymore but if I get another girl, I would not be charged for the room. This is different from a couple of year ago when they did give the money back.
I went back to the bar, pick a girl who looked friendly and went upstairs. She didn't ask for the money up front. She wasn't bad, but wasn't great. Cbj and no kissing on the lips. I did nut, so she served her purpose. I gave her $600 pesos.
My friend took two hotties from a/b. Not sure about the names but he said one was good, the other was very mechanical.
Q
I know the owner of [url]http://teamjuanitaonline.com/[/url] and he is straight up. (No, I am not the owner of the agency.) If you book through him you'll have a good time and you'll get your money's worth.
I know of no-one who will go to greater lengths to take care of a client and when you call, tell him that Country John referred you. Try to get a session with Dulce and try not to fall in love with her (I dare you).
Country John
I Need Info On The Pueblo Amigo I Want To Do A Tln There But I Dont Know If They Let You Bring Girls To Your Room And Does Any Talent Hangout There Any And All Info Will Help.
[blue]Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...
[red][u]Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports![/u][/red]
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i]
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=Country John]I know the owner of [url]http://teamjuanitaonline.com/[/url] and he is straight up. (No, I am not the owner of the agency.) If you book through him you'll have a good time and you'll get your money's worth.
I know of no-one who will go to greater lengths to take care of a client and when you call, tell him that Country John referred you. Try to get a session with Dulce and try not to fall in love with her (I dare you).
Country John[/QUOTE]I've had 2 experiences with Team Juanita. The agency support was awsome. I first went with Mia and it was a very good experience. When I went the second time I couldn't resist not going to see Mia again....and it was even better. As I contemplate my third trip, while Dulce is higly recommended and has great reviews, Mia is still very tempting! Just wish I could get her for a weekend.
Taiko
[QUOTE=Raiderman]I Need Info On The Pueblo Amigo I Want To Do A Tln There But I Dont Know If They Let You Bring Girls To Your Room And Does Any Talent Hangout There Any And All Info Will Help.
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Hotel Pueblo Amigo is definitely chica friendly. It is afterall owned by Jorge Hank the current mayor of Tijuana.
[QUOTE=Raiderman]I Need Info On The Pueblo Amigo I Want To Do A Tln There But I Dont Know If They Let You Bring Girls To Your Room And Does Any Talent Hangout There Any And All Info Will Help.[/QUOTE]
Lots of talent next door in the plaza, but it's big money and it's mob saturated. Go in if you have money and are prepared to spend it.
There are no problems bringing a girl to the room. If you know in advance of the TLN arrangement, then register her at the desk. Yes, register her. There are several reasons for this.
1. The guy who works the desk at night might not be the same guy who checked you in.
2. Sure, Hank owns the place but if security wants to be a prick, they CAN send the girl away.
3. One night after a TLN I drove the girl back to the Zona and was stopped by the cops who "saw" her giving me oral sex in the car (illegal). It was bullshit of course and when I offered to have him come with me to the hotel to prove she was registered with me there and we were there all night, they had nowhere to go but the hole they came out of.
4. If she rips you off, or kills you in the room, the cops will have clues. (Go ahead, tell me this never happens.)
5. If she OD's in the room, registering her will help you if they think you did her in.
When you check in, register Mr. and Mrs. Whateveryournameis. Tell the desk that she is arriving later etc. You are in Mexico. Document your situation and then shred it when you cross Stateside if you want to.
I understand that some will see this as over the top but you must remember that you are not in the USA and therefore your rights are very [BOLD]G*O*N*E.[/BOLD]/ It's up to YOU to protect yourself.
Not registering the girl is like opening the door to a stranger, of which there will be no record.
Country John
To Jackson:
The 'first letter capitalized' problem indicates that the poster's caps lock key was on. Something on the forum causes only the first letter of each word to be capitalized.
I have seen this problem before. It is definitely not a guy sitting there trying to capitalize every word, lol...
Hello all,
I'm from Houston, TX. I'm planning a trip to TJ during labor day weekend. Can someone give me or recommand a hotel near the boarder so I can look it up in google map and get the direction? Perfer a hotel or motel with wireless internet access
Thanks
I'm heading back to TJ! Yesssssss!
Any up to date info on the border, especially on whether I need a passport?!? Thanks,
Bend It
I went last week. Just flashed my driver's license and was on my way. They scanned it though. So I guess its lucky that I don't have anyone looking for me at the moment.
I suggest you walk over, the traffic on the way out was crazy and it was only a Tuesday.
Saw a stunner in LC who offered $50 for half an hour, but I was already heading out. May be worth checking out though.
Good luck.
From the information I recieved the passport rules were changed this year Jan 1. But with althe confusion and uproar, the are very leinent on this rule until Jan 1, 2007, so fellow mongers, get your passports now, it takes about 3 weeks unless you pay for a quickie, 3 days and about $150.
Happy hunting guys
[QUOTE=Csiense]I went last week. Just flashed my driver's license and was on my way. They scanned it though. So I guess its lucky that I don't have anyone looking for me at the moment.
I suggest you walk over, the traffic on the way out was crazy and it was only a Tuesday.
Saw a stunner in LC who offered $50 for half an hour, but I was already heading out. May be worth checking out though.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info!
I don't think they have internet but I stay at the San Ysidro Travel Lodge. For around $60 per day it's at least clean. I can hang out and party in TJ and after I cross back to the US I can walk back to my room. This way I don't have to park at the border and worry about a DUI driving back to a hotel. If your looking for something nicer, Google hotels in the San Ysidro area and check their hotel ratings, their distance to the border, and their internet access. You can drive back to your hotel after you cross back over or take one of the cabs that are always waiting on the US side.
If you want to stay in TJ both the Camino Reale and the Hotel Pueblo Amigo are very nice hotels and sometimes you can get a good deal on priceline. Hotel Pueblo Amigo also has some very nice nightlife in the mall next store. Stay away from the overpriced massage parlor in that mall but if you speak spanish, and have some pretty good game, you might do ok with one of the local girls. I don't know if either have internet because everytime I plan a trip I do my internet homework before I get there and Monger during my time in the area.
Speaking of mongering, Houston is one of my favorites US spots to spend a few days. It's one of the last places over here that's still wide open.
Be Safe, Rider Jay
[QUOTE=I Luv Puss]Hello all,
I'm from Houston, TX. I'm planning a trip to TJ during labor day weekend. Can someone give me or recommand a hotel near the boarder so I can look it up in google map and get the direction? Perfer a hotel or motel with wireless internet access
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I arrived in TJ about 8pm a week ago Tuesday. I never go midweek so I didn't know what to expect. I was pleasantly surprised. Even though there wasn't as many girls on the street or in the clubs like Chicago or Adelitas, the ratio of girls to mongers was much better then it is on the weekend. Also some of the starting prices were lower then they are on weekends and I'm not talking about the "suky, fuky $5" pitch that when you respond you find it's just the price for the room, but a lot of the girls were ready to give full service for $20. Of course the real hot ones still asked for the moon but I had no trouble getting my suky, fuky, sin ropa, two positions for $30 plus the room from 2 very young and pretty SW's during the course of the night.
I guess it finally had to happen. I was harassed by the TJ police. I know I’ve said in the past that if you mind your own business, don’t look for trouble, and keep a low profile you’ll never have a problem with the local police. That’s exactly what I was doing when a squad car that was shaking down some local street people called me over. The first thing he asked me was if I spoke Spanish. When I told him no he asked in perfect English if I had any drugs on me and I responded with a firm no. I assure you I don’t fit the drug profile. Whenever I’m in TJ, I never wear expensive clothes or jewelry because I don’t want to invite an opportunity for a thief. I wear jeans, clean tennis shoes because of all the walking I do, and a nice casual shirt. He then asked me what I was doing in TJ. I told him I was a tourist and was just enjoying their fine night life. He made me wait until he was done searching the street people that he was already working on and then searched me. I was expecting him to try to plant something on me or try anything to get some money from me but that didn’t seem to be his motive. When he got into my pocket and reached my BR he made me take out my money and put it on the car's hood. He was purposely making an effort not to handle the money himself. He made me place it right in front of where I was standing. I had about 3 hundred in 10s and 20s on me and probably would have given him about $20 but I was prepared to make him take me to his captain if he shot for any more. He didn’t. When he saw I had nothing illegal on me (he even made me lift up my pant legs so he could check my shoes and socks) he then rudely told me to go home. It took all I had not to tell him that if I went home I couldn’t spend my money in his dirty city, spreading it around his bars and restaurants. That it was people like me that his economy depended on and if he had any common sense he would spend his time stopping real crime and leave the tourists alone. I didn’t say any of that. I just followed some of my old rules that focused on keeping a low profile. I stopped into a local bar and had a few beers. I then took a few laps until I found a SW that appealed to me, got laid, and then took a cab back to the border. I had a great time in spite of the prick cop and an even better one the next day. Because this post is already to long winded, I’ll write about it in my next post.
Be Safe, Rider Jay
Hey guys,
Is anyone going down to TJ tomorrow? If so, do you want to hook up at the border? I am a newbie to the TJ scene and would like someone with experience to show me the way to the light. First couple of rounds on me.
PM me if you are going and interested.
Ho Man
Just visited on 7/26 after a long absence... things have changed! I guess Adelita's is always changing their layout. Spent some time there, but it seems like more girls are adopting the 'hottie central girl' attitude. They just stand around and wait for a proposition. I remember being approached on my previous visits, but apart from a couple of not-so-good-looking providers making the rounds, the women there just stood around.
So I went to Hong Kong and watched the strip shows. I saw they had remodeled as well, adding a third floor where the booths now were. Ended up spending some time with a really petite chica, can't remember her name other than it started with F, and sounded roughly like fucka, or something like that. Anyway, it was by far the most social experience I've had in TJ. It was a nice change, if not more expensive. But that was what I was looking for this time. When we did get a room, it was more of a GFE than I've experienced before in TJ.
After that, I ended up trying one of the girls on the street outside of HK, even though my past experience on the street there wasn't too good. I don't know the name of the street, I just think of it as the alley-even though it isn't- but anyway, her name was Anjelica, a little chubby with glasses, quoted me $20 for CBJ, and reluctantly agreed to $25 for BBBJ/20 min, and I have to say, she delivered a pretty good one. Of course her mouth got tired, but she sucked the sack while i finished myself off. I know $25 or even $20 is more than I've seen posted here before for service off the street, but it just seems my negotiating skills aren't any good(at all) down there. Maybe it would help if I learned some spanish. Anyway, I guess I'll be having to return in a month or so. The petite chica at HK left quite an impression on me. Best time there I've had yet.
Keep it Cheap
No Z
[QUOTE=No Zanax]Just visited on 7/26 after a long absence... things have changed! I guess Adelita's is always changing their layout. Spent some time there, but it seems like more girls are adopting the 'hottie central girl' attitude. They just stand around and wait for a proposition. I remember being approached on my previous visits, but apart from a couple of not-so-good-looking providers making the rounds, the women there just stood around.
So I went to Hong Kong and watched the strip shows. I saw they had remodeled as well, adding a third floor where the booths now were. Ended up spending some time with a really petite chica, can't remember her name other than it started with F, and sounded roughly like fucka, or something like that. Anyway, it was by far the most social experience I've had in TJ. It was a nice change, if not more expensive. But that was what I was looking for this time. When we did get a room, it was more of a GFE than I've experienced before in TJ.
After that, I ended up trying one of the girls on the street outside of HK, even though my past experience on the street there wasn't too good. I don't know the name of the street, I just think of it as the alley-even though it isn't- but anyway, her name was Anjelica, a little chubby with glasses, quoted me $20 for CBJ, and reluctantly agreed to $25 for BBBJ/20 min, and I have to say, she delivered a pretty good one. Of course her mouth got tired, but she sucked the sack while i finished myself off. I know $25 or even $20 is more than I've seen posted here before for service off the street, but it just seems my negotiating skills aren't any good(at all) down there. Maybe it would help if I learned some spanish. Anyway, I guess I'll be having to return in a month or so. The petite chica at HK left quite an impression on me. Best time there I've had yet.
Keep it Cheap
No Z[/QUOTE]
For some of the reasons you mention above I havent been down in 3-4 months, if not longer. I mean the girls aren't that hot but many act like they are perfect and want more than people should pay. Even the sw's have attitudes and normally just lay there like you are banging the pillow. I am not saying you can't have a fun time but after the lame experiences I have almost completely given up. I may head down to get some cheap medication soon and will check it out but otherwise I will save my money and travel. If others do the same things would change but it won't happen.
Everyone who reads the board(s) knows about corruption in TJPD. It should come as no surprise to anyone that you could be stopped and shaken down. Even pedestrians crossing back encounter problems.
It is illegal to drive while intoxicated in Mexico. It's also illegal to do so in the USA. It's illegal to drive without wearing a seatbelt or while talking on your cel phone in TJ.
When you break the law in Mexico, you are turning control over to the cop who stops you. He has the power to decide if your stop will be a short one or a long one. His decision will be determined by how much exposure you give him.
Are you drinking? BOINK! Do you have an open container in the car? BOINK!
D you have illegal drugs? BOINK! Your paperwork is not in order? BOINK!
You see, it all depends on your situation when you are stopped.
Now the cop can follow the "letter of the law" and have your vehicle towed and impounded, you can spend the night in the tank etc. etc. If you have a weapon (gun) or even ammo, you go directly to federal prison. For a long long time.
IN exchange for the officer giving you special consideration (given the situation you are in) you can provide the officer with special consideration in the form of cash that suppliments his very low income. The alternatives are not attractive at all considering the cost of the tow, storage, impound fees etc.
In Mexico, for a small sum (usuall between $20 and $100) you can walk from what otherwise would be a very difficult situation. I guaranfuckingtee you that you would not walk if you were stopped Stateside. Costs to fix a problem like this could reach into the thousands.
So do yourself a favor. Understand what you are dealing with. If you are driving while intoxicated then that's a dangerous situation and the cop has the right to deprive you of your freedom if he wants to. You should be grateful that you paid the fine on the street. Depending on your level of assholeness, the fine could be much much more.
I drive in Mexico a LOT. I had one problem with my other car (I keep an extra car in TJ for the low profile) with no plates, no registration, my girlfriend was driving, she has no license, we were both drinking etc but when we were grabbed by the cops, we treated them with respect and paid $18.25 in cash to the cop who then let us go.
I had $300.00 in the car but told him it was all I had.
When in your vehicle, keep $40 in your pocket and stash the rest. Tell the cop it's all you have because you spent all your money on the girls. They'll understand that. That's over $400 pesos, probably half a weeks pay. They'll take it.
If you are a class "A" asshole, then you'll get hit a bit harder including a police escort to the ATM machine.
Call it what you will. We flash and bling all over the place in TJ. Mexicans think we have the money so what's the problem? Keep a few bucks for morditas. And remember that when you're handing a few bucks over to the cops because YOU got busted for no seat belt, drunk driving, drugs or open container you are getting of a lot easier than you would if you pulled that shit Stateside.
I'm not defending the corruption of TJPD, I am merely giving you a bit more insight so you might handle yourself differently next time out.
Telling a TJ cop that you had only one beer while in TJ is foolish. Right off the bat he knows you are lying to him so then he is thinking "what else is this estupido gringo lying about?"
Tell him the truth. "Yeah officer, I had about 8 beers earlier in the day so I had to wait several hours before driving home, that's why I am here so late." Now THAT is more like it. And as long as you are not visibly intoxicated and able to handle yourself you should be OK.
Don't expect any cop (TJ or Stateside) to go easy if you are falling down drunk and driving a 4000 pound vehicle on their city streets.
"Common sense" should be self evident. Everyone lies to the cops. "What were you doing in the Zona?" Ans: "I was having some beer with some friends."
REal answer: "I was having sex with girls." Now you could say that you were "Chasing the girls." The bottom line is don't look like a bullshitter. These guys might be corrupt but they are not stupid. Don't give them a reason to dig deeper, toss your vehicle or give you a hard time because you are insulting their intelligence by insisting that you had only ONE fucking beer in Tijuana Mexico. 'Cmon.
Be Safe And Be Nice
Country John
[QUOTE=California Guy]For some of the reasons you mention above I havent been down in 3-4 months, if not longer. I mean the girls aren't that hot but many act like they are perfect and want more than people should pay. Even the sw's have attitudes and normally just lay there like you are banging the pillow. I am not saying you can't have a fun time but after the lame experiences I have almost completely given up. I may head down to get some cheap medication soon and will check it out but otherwise I will save my money and travel. If others do the same things would change but it won't happen.[/QUOTE]SW's are notorious for lackluster performance. So I understand where you're coming from. But as far as the bargirls are concerned, what day and time are you shopping? If you can, try going during the weekday in the daylight hours for a more favorable market condition.
This report you have written is really good advice and well written thanks.
[QUOTE=Country John]Everyone who reads the board(s) knows about corruption in TJPD. It should come as no surprise to anyone that you could be stopped and shaken down. Even pedestrians crossing back encounter problems.
It is illegal to drive while intoxicated in Mexico. It's also illegal to do so in the USA. It's illegal to drive without wearing a seatbelt or while talking on your cel phone in TJ.
When you break the law in Mexico, you are turning control over to the cop who stops you. He has the power to decide if your stop will be a short one or a long one. His decision will be determined by how much exposure you give him.
Are you drinking? BOINK! Do you have an open container in the car? BOINK!
D you have illegal drugs? BOINK! Your paperwork is not in order? BOINK!
You see, it all depends on your situation when you are stopped.
Now the cop can follow the "letter of the law" and have your vehicle towed and impounded, you can spend the night in the tank etc. etc. If you have a weapon (gun) or even ammo, you go directly to federal prison. For a long long time.
IN exchange for the officer giving you special consideration (given the situation you are in) you can provide the officer with special consideration in the form of cash that suppliments his very low income. The alternatives are not attractive at all considering the cost of the tow, storage, impound fees etc.
In Mexico, for a small sum (usuall between $20 and $100) you can walk from what otherwise would be a very difficult situation. I guaranfuckingtee you that you would not walk if you were stopped Stateside. Costs to fix a problem like this could reach into the thousands.
So do yourself a favor. Understand what you are dealing with. If you are driving while intoxicated then that's a dangerous situation and the cop has the right to deprive you of your freedom if he wants to. You should be grateful that you paid the fine on the street. Depending on your level of assholeness, the fine could be much much more.
I drive in Mexico a LOT. I had one problem with my other car (I keep an extra car in TJ for the low profile) with no plates, no registration, my girlfriend was driving, she has no license, we were both drinking etc but when we were grabbed by the cops, we treated them with respect and paid $18.25 in cash to the cop who then let us go.
I had $300.00 in the car but told him it was all I had.
When in your vehicle, keep $40 in your pocket and stash the rest. Tell the cop it's all you have because you spent all your money on the girls. They'll understand that. That's over $400 pesos, probably half a weeks pay. They'll take it.
If you are a class "A" asshole, then you'll get hit a bit harder including a police escort to the ATM machine.
Call it what you will. We flash and bling all over the place in TJ. Mexicans think we have the money so what's the problem? Keep a few bucks for morditas. And remember that when you're handing a few bucks over to the cops because YOU got busted for no seat belt, drunk driving, drugs or open container you are getting of a lot easier than you would if you pulled that shit Stateside.
I'm not defending the corruption of TJPD, I am merely giving you a bit more insight so you might handle yourself differently next time out.
Telling a TJ cop that you had only one beer while in TJ is foolish. Right off the bat he knows you are lying to him so then he is thinking "what else is this estupido gringo lying about?"
Tell him the truth. "Yeah officer, I had about 8 beers earlier in the day so I had to wait several hours before driving home, that's why I am here so late." Now THAT is more like it. And as long as you are not visibly intoxicated and able to handle yourself you should be OK.
Don't expect any cop (TJ or Stateside) to go easy if you are falling down drunk and driving a 4000 pound vehicle on their city streets.
"Common sense" should be self evident. Everyone lies to the cops. "What were you doing in the Zona?" Ans: "I was having some beer with some friends."
REal answer: "I was having sex with girls." Now you could say that you were "Chasing the girls." The bottom line is don't look like a bullshitter. These guys might be corrupt but they are not stupid. Don't give them a reason to dig deeper, toss your vehicle or give you a hard time because you are insulting their intelligence by insisting that you had only ONE fucking beer in Tijuana Mexico. 'Cmon.
Be Safe And Be Nice
Country John[/QUOTE]
These boards have been really informative. Took a weekday trip to TJ. Parked in the $7 lot and crossed over in the afternoon. Spent $5 for an immediate Yellow cab to Adelitas.
On the Mexico side, before the 2nd set of turnstiles, a 6'1" 200 lb 28 yo high school linebacker type asked me if I knew English. I said yes, but then realized it was a scam. I told him no, and continued walking to the turnstile. He followed, became abusive and made threats, but ultimately gave up. The guys was an American, the first of several, of varying ages who would try the "Do you know English" scam. Some of the guys were obvious drug users. I encountered several of them going through customs on the way back into the US.
Cialis is easily available for $13.10 for 20 mg, a really potent dosage. Just remember to eat and drink sufficiently during your stay. To find the Cialis, when crossing into Mexico, instead of going straight thru the turnstiles to the Yellow cabs, turn right following the locals through the other turnstiles. Go straight across the street to the pharmacy with multiple barkers. Yellow cabs and other cabs are available right outside the pharmacy.
On the drive in, two full size pickups with California plates were being stopped and searched by TJ police.
I went into Adelitas and quickly exited. I had a good time in the alley and at Hong Kong Bar. The alley girls standard were typically $20 for 1-2 positions for 20 minutes. I ended up spending $25-$30 + $0-5 tip. None of the alley girls rushed the time. None were PSE, but, at Adelitas, half the girls either rush you or are lousy. Rooms at the Cascades Hotel cost $6 with air conditioning. Cascades rooms and bathrooms were much cleaner than those at Adelitas hotel. In Adelitas favor, most of the Adelitas girls shower and clean up afterwards. For the alley girls, none used the shower, or cleaned up aggressively.
Hong Kong club had a variety of girls for many tastes, from young/stupid to DDG to skank to biker chick to mid-mileage to aerobics workout babe. Ladies drinks are $7. Drinks are $3.50, beers are 2 for 1 in the afternoon before some time. Does anyone know if bottled water can be had 2 for 1? What about choice of drink in the larger private rooms? I didn't get a price on that 2nd floor room, but did go for the 3rd floor booths for $20 for two songs + tip. The midweek, daytime songs were extended mixes. I didn't get all the extras that some have reported, but I'll just say the small booths are insane. One companion was a 20 yo aerobics/dancer type, another was a 10 body top dancer who had just finished her stage routine. Be generous with the HK women, they are awesome.
Hong Kong club has the same waiters and some of the same girls as Club Miami next door. There is an internal door between the two. Club Miami is opposite the bar behind the tinted windows. Two girls in HK that I talked to were available for FS, one definitely was not, though the prices were very high.
In the alley, Seguridad guys patrolled outside several of the businesses. A few Mexicano drug addict/drug runner types approached me with offers to find me girls, or just made abusive comments. You can figure out that I'm not 6'5" 250 lbs. Still, I felt safe. I caught a red/white taxi from the alley to the border for $4.
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Good TR. Excellent first post. Sounds like you know what you're doing and are smart about it.
You're right, the linebacker guy has been around for a long time. At least a year. I had a long talk with him one night in the Zona and every word out of his mouth was BS. I even offered to drive him home to San Diego and arranged a meeting time but he was a no show. I didn't give him any money.
His favorite line is that he just got out of jail, his bud is still in there and he is trying to get his car out of the impound so he can go home.
He's been washing windshields, cleaning cars etc. I think the guy is wanted in the USA. One thing for sure, he is a large lad. You don;t know if he is high or not. He is desperado so be very careful how you handle him. I don;t think he's capable of an assault because he probably DOES have experience in the TJ Jail and it's not Disneyland. Just be careful.
Again, nice TR.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
I wrote this on another site but since I frequent both, here's a copy
Wednesday, August 2 trip.
On business in San Diego for a day caused me to plan properly and pad the trip by a day and night to indulge in some basic hedonism. I've been going to TJ for over 15 years, although not with any regularity such as some of the studs list here.
I hit the border midnight Tuesday, scored my cialis, and ventured to the alley by HK. Priorities in order were: beer, tequila shot then the SG for the first bang. Got to get the skunk off. However, this was not to be. during my walk heading down the alley I saw a cutie (no name guys sorry, not memorable enough to mention) I got away with spending 35 total. summarizing - upsell, upsell... So I just conceded for a substandard cbj and then did the doggie pound with emphasis on the pounding, till I was done. #1 out of the way, and priorities already screwed up.
On to beer and tequila... Had some beers, couple shots, feeling good. I ventured around aimlessly - HK, Adelitas, Rio Rosas. Got to comment on the last one. I had never spent any time here, but read a bit about it recently and wanted to make it one of my stops. I have to tell you, my experience was good. I got a couple of cheap beers and this 5 girl came over to me at the bar. She pushed at first to go where it was dark, but I was content to hang at the bar. She proceeded to get one drink on me and massage my neck, my head (the cranial one) my back, my shoulders, my arms and hands, for like 20 minutes. All the while talking extremely dirty in my ear about all the things she wanted me to do to her. Again this was out of my agenda, but actually enjoyed it alot. Feeling refreshed I realized it was time for the trophy girl.
Based on the clubs I entered during the wee hours, AB was the target. I went there and took my time, watching the girls go up, and then come down in 15 minutes. Nope. You all know that if you hang out long enough, you start to see the ones with spark and playfulness. So I narrowed it down to 3 of them. I choose Marianna. Before I go on - I know this was her name, BUT I did a search on her and find nothing. I believe she was from Mexico City or Guadalajara, however the reports on the one from Guadalajara are nothing like her so - go figure. Anyway - She was in her 30's 5'4 BIG rack, tight waist, nice toned body, slightly thick thighs for me, but then I like the 100 pounders. Long brown hair. This was a good score, we got to the room and she was the one to slow things down, I like that. gave me a good cbj to start and then I took her through the positions. She did some great faking, I was buzzed and gave in to it like a good movie. I finished mish and she came right at the same time - it was magic (I'm joking) .... Uh, yeah right, well it was a nice effort from her and I appreciated it anyway. I enjoyed it and would repeat with her. Damage 74$ and pop #2 out of the way.
Another hour till daylight and I wanted food. Sustenance, now! I ate some tacos at the place next to AB, was decent. I ventured back to HK, the alley, and walked around a bit. Nothing seemed fun at that moment - you know that feeling? selection is poor, you just finished, not ready for a third, don't want to keep drinking cause of the boredom, daylight is coming, etc... ??? So I paid the 35 bucks for a room so I could sleep for a few hours. fast forward to 8:00 am...
Low on cash, I decide I'll taxi to the border and go to the car, get cash and return, bad idea, border line is long, so I order the taxi to return me to the zona so I can wait for the line to be more manageable. I go to the only bar open - I'm sorry maybe somebody can help me with the name - la carache? middle of the street on the HK side? anyway, I had about 60 $ left so I conceded to the 2 for drinks and watch the mexicans get drunk first thing in the morning. This whole experience here at this place at this hour was so surreal. I got to know the waiters, one in particular - Eddie, I would get bored at the bar and stand in the entrance to people watch. I ended up getting pulled into a small soccer exhibition with a cop, a local and one of the door guys. The street was so empty we just kicked the ball around and passed it back and forth. I tried of this and went back in to drink.
Flash forward 20 minutes - So I'm upstairs in their single room getting a bbbj from a girl that I gave 8 bucks. I blew it all over her face and in her mouth, was just so raunchy. I came out of the room to have the drunks in the bar cheering me... Pop #3 done
Cialis is really doing the job... muy bien! Being low on cash I head to the border and to the car for a refill. this whole process cost me like 3 hours before I was drinking a beer and stuffing singles in a gstring at HK. I spent some time there watching Miranda from TJ. VERY HOT 23 yr old, hair past her shoulders, 5'5 (approx) 100 lbs, small fake rack, big nipples. She would disappear for periods of time and then come back. I tipped a waiter and told him that he needed to set us up. He did - I'll get back to that.
While there, i met a gringo dude - one of you??? come on fess up. Anyway we had a blast on the second level. We played the gambling dice game for a couple hours with the waiters as they would come by for a dollar per round. I think we got the better of them. It was fun and if this was one of you guys, let me know, meet you there anytime!
Back to Miranda - I took her up to cascades and WOW. She says that she had only been there a week. Whatever, maybe, do I care? She got naked and gave me a long bbbj before the cover. she let me do any position I wanted, I asked her how she liked it and she said hard... I had to oblige, twas my duty! Anyway, I was having a hard time finishing and so I directed her to hj, she began but you know the rule, if you want something done right.... I asked her to lick my boys which she did happily and quite well. I blew it hard and we showered together before the knock.
Boys - I saved the best for last - She was AWESOME. Pop #4 achieved.
All in all was a good way to spend the night and day. I got over the border, had dinner and to my hotel by 6:00 showered and off to sleep.
Sorry if that was too long but had to be specific, I normally don't write these.
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Hey yall I have a quick question.
What if I'm walking across into Tijuana, but I plan to stay 72 hours or more or even venture further into the country? Is there some where I can get a tourist card (or whatever I need) right after I cross the border? How much does it cost? What do I need to get one? Are there buses from Tijuana to places like Mexico City?
Thanks alot!
PS. I'm Latino and grew up in Latin America so I'm not worried about safety or anything like that, just need the advice listed above. If anyone needs info on the DR feel free to PM me. I lived there for some time and fucked all over the country.
Go to the immigration office after you pass through the first turn-stile. Get an "FMT" Tourist Card. Be prepared to produce a passport or birth certificate and some ID. You fill out the form with the immigration guy, then go to the bank and pay $21.00 then return to the immigration guy for the stamp.
The FMT is good for 180 days.
The office is located in the Secondary Inspection area. Anyone there will be able to direct you. There are two bus stations. The one on Revolution BL is the main station. Go there.
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Rick Rock]Hey yall I have a quick question.
What if I'm walking across into Tijuana, but I plan to stay 72 hours or more or even venture further into the country? Is there some where I can get a tourist card (or whatever I need) right after I cross the border? How much does it cost? What do I need to get one? Are there buses from Tijuana to places like Mexico City?
Thanks alot!
PS. I'm Latino and grew up in Latin America so I'm not worried about safety or anything like that, just need the advice listed above. If anyone needs info on the DR feel free to PM me. I lived there for some time and fucked all over the country.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Country John]There are two bus stations. The one on Revolution BL is the main station. Go there.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Actually the main bus station is called la Central Camionera and it's just off the Via Rapida on Lazaro Cardenas east of downtown tijuana.
The one on revolucion is the Mexicoach terminal. Buses leave from there to rosarito or the border.
Hey Guys,
I'm trying to plan a trip to TJ, its been about 1.5 years and I have been dying to go back. I'm having a hard time finding a hotel to book close to the border. I prefer to stay at a cheap dive, on the border or on the Mexico side, doesn't matter to me, just whatever is cheap and somewhat clean (no cum "visible to the naked eye" stains) on the sheets. Anyone have any suggestions. I was trying to do it online so I can do the combo thing and save a little.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Actually the main bus station is called la Central Camionera and it's just off the Via Rapida on Lazaro Cardenas east of downtown tijuana.
The one on revolucion is the Mexicoach terminal. Buses leave from there to rosarito or the border.[/QUOTE]
I stand corrected. (I never take the bus.) Thanks Reinaldo.
Country John
Fellas was planning a trip for today or tommorrow or possibly sat. would like some info about the lines or security reports due to the upgraded terror alerts.
I have been going to tj for a little over 25 yrs. and have not encountered any problems, wondering if some of you fellow mongers can help shed some light on this subject.
Thanks and happy hunting
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]I normally dont eat tacos because they are usually tasteless and messy. I usually eat seafood out of La Perla in La Zona. I am a picky eater who pissed off an inumerable number of girl friends and wives.... Today I just found out that tacos can be very delicious with the best tacos I ever ate anywhere in Mexico.
It's the Club Super - Tacos Loco restaurant on the pedestrian walkway from the US border, near the monger's arch. He has $1 beers and 3 grilled-pork tacos for $1. The 3 tacos for $1 is a generous serving with grilled pork, unlike the rest of Mexico, tender, juicy, tasty, flavorful... with spices similar to those used in Jack in the Box burgers.
His $1.50 shrimp tacos are also very fresh and tasty with grilled, rather than deep-fried, shrimp. I did not try his carne asada since I was too full. He also has a good menu of other Mexican dishes.
He has a few tables right in the alley where you can suck your beers, gulp down your tasty tacos, and eye the San Diegan babes parading around for some brown meat....
Life is good.[/QUOTE]Do you mean Taco Beel right past the border or is this place after it. Id like to pass by it. Thanks.
PS: I usually walked to TJ, please let me know if its in the walking route. Thanks.
[QUOTE=ThePerson]Do you mean Taco Beel right past the border or is this place after it. Id like to pass by it. Thanks.
PS: I usually walked to TJ, please let me know if its in the walking route. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I suspect it's the place on the right before you get to the Arch. Open air, narrow, with openings on two opposite sides. Big grill; lots of street urchins. You missed out by not ordering the carne asada. Yum.
[QUOTE=Firedsup]Fellas was planning a trip for today or tommorrow or possibly sat. would like some info about the lines or security reports due to the upgraded terror alerts.
I have been going to tj for a little over 25 yrs. and have not encountered any problems, wondering if some of you fellow mongers can help shed some light on this subject.
Thanks and happy hunting[/QUOTE]
Not sure how much help I'll be (I take my vehicle) but I've noticed zero difference in wait time, zero difference in the encounter with the agents. The drama is with the airlines. If they have a reason to probe, they might go further than normal but I've not heard anything out of the ordinary.
Just have your docs in order, be nice and be neat. You'll be fine.
Country John
[QUOTE=ThePerson]Hey Guys,
I'm trying to plan a trip to TJ, its been about 1.5 years and I have been dying to go back. I'm having a hard time finding a hotel to book close to the border. I prefer to stay at a cheap dive, on the border or on the Mexico side, doesn't matter to me, just whatever is cheap and somewhat clean (no cum "visible to the naked eye" stains) on the sheets. Anyone have any suggestions. I was trying to do it online so I can do the combo thing and save a little.[/QUOTE]
I would suggest the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago, which is right across from La Tropa Bar. It costs about $43 per night for a very nice room (including a kitchenette). Very clean and new and it comes highly recommended from myself and other mongers on this forum. Chica friendly, and you are a 1 minute (safe) walk from the zone. Noisy at night, but that is standard for TJ. Could also try the Nelson, which is at Primera and Revolucion (right by the arch) - runs you about $55, and is alos chica friendly. I personally feel Santiago is nicer and better value.
Remember to pay for a double room if you want to bring a girl back
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]
Remember to pay for a double room if you want to bring a girl back
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
Is this something you thought up or did someone at the desk mention it? In Mexico a double room is one with two beds. Two people can stay in a room with one bed without generally incurring extra charges.
[QUOTE=ThePerson]Hey Guys,
I prefer to stay at a cheap dive, on the border or on the Mexico side, doesn't matter to me, just whatever is cheap and somewhat clean (no cum "visible to the naked eye" stains) on the sheets. Anyone have any suggestions. I was trying to do it online so I can do the combo thing and save a little.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Well, (speaking of cheap dives) the last time I was in TJ was a few years ago, so this may not help, but there was a hotel called Motel Alaska on Av. Revolución (on the way to the zona) that was about $20 a night. Now, before you get ready to book a room there, let me just warn you that this place was a shithole, the room reeked, and there was an angry swam of houseflys that I had to chase out with a towel before I could settle into the room. Having said that, after about 20 beers at the various bars in the zona, I had no problems getting to sleep. And no cum stains either lol!
So, does anyone know if this place still exists? Actually I will be in the San Diego area for business the last week of this month, and was thinking about spending Labor Day weekend in TJ, I'm interested to see what transformations have taken place since I was last there. I'm assuming TJ will be packed full of gringos that long weekend, so is it still possible to be able to just roll into town and find a place to stay? Or will even my beloved Motel Alaska be booked solid? lol
After living in South America these last couple of years, I' m really gonna have to lower my expectations in order to go back to TJ. But I'm willing to give it the old college try!
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Is this something you thought up or did someone at the desk mention it? In Mexico a double room is one with two beds. Two people can stay in a room with one bed without generally incurring extra charges.[/QUOTE]Curious about that also, I intended to go to the clubs and street girls, didnt know I can take any back with me for a walk. Do you usually have to get a double room with just a visitor or few. Thanks.
This report is a few weeks old but a little computer trouble stopped me from posting part 2 of my last midweek trip.
After staying up late on the very eventful night that I arrived, one that included my first TJ police encounter, I didn’t get back across until about noon. Even though it was a Wednesday afternoon the selection was still pretty good. My flight didn’t leave until 9pm so I knew I’d have plenty of time to drink a few beers, eat and get in a couple of sessions.
I don’t know the name of the street but if you are standing in front of the Arch, heading for the Zona, there’s the Hotel Colon on your left. About a year ago I had a memorable session with a girl standing out front. She seemed very new to the life and she was an absolute 10. I asked my usual how much for suky, fucky, sin ropa, 2 positions and was told $20 plus room but no suky. I usually like some suky to get my engine started but, not only was the price right, she was also too pretty to pass up so I went for it. I was not disappointed. This girl seemed to actually like sex and, while on top, she rode me like a dirt bike.
It was the only time I’d seen her out until this trip. Her name is Monica and this time she seemed a little more seasoned. Suky was no problem but her starting price was $40 plus room. We worked it down to $30 for everything and had anther great session.
After that I had a few bears and a bite to eat. Nothing in the Adelitas Bar or the Chicago Club inspired me enough to spend the extra money so grabbed anther street girl, had a pretty good time, and headed to the airport. All in all, outside the prick cop, it was a pretty good trip.
Be safe, Rider Jay
[QUOTE=Ezinho]Well, (speaking of cheap dives) the last time I was in TJ was a few years ago, so this may not help, but there was a hotel called Motel Alaska on Av. Revolución (on the way to the zona) that was about $20 a night. Now, before you get ready to book a room there, let me just warn you that this place was a shithole, the room reeked, and there was an angry swam of houseflys that I had to chase out with a towel before I could settle into the room. Having said that, after about 20 beers at the various bars in the zona, I had no problems getting to sleep. And no cum stains either lol!
So, does anyone know if this place still exists? Actually I will be in the San Diego area for business the last week of this month, and was thinking about spending Labor Day weekend in TJ, I'm interested to see what transformations have taken place since I was last there. ![/QUOTE]
The Motel Alaska is still around.
[QUOTE=Rider Jay]This girl seemed to actually like sex and, while on top, she rode me like a dirt bike. [/QUOTE]
Like a dirt bike, that's a good one.
Every time I'm in town I stop and eat at La Perla. They have the best cavichie de camaron tostados I've ever tasted. When I read your report I got excited because I thought great food plus, for a change, fine women. Unfortunatly the place still looked the same and I saw the same chubby waitresses, but at least the food was still great :). I hope we're talking about the same place. The La Perla I'm thinking of is, if your leaving the Chicago Club and go past AB's, right on the corner to your right. I will try Kim Mon the next time I hit town so thanks for the tip.
Be Safe, Rider Jay
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]La Perla was closed last week for remodeling. A new owner had bought over the place.
I instead went to Kim Mon, the Chinese restaurant at the end of the alley, on Nino Hero. The food was unusually good and the beer was cheap. Just remember each order is big enough for 2 persons.
La Perla was opened this week and was redecorated by a new owner. They hired a bunch of new waitresses who were much thinner and prettier than the porkies who used to be there. They were bringing out the raw clam appetizer and consomme on the house which were excellent. The beers are still $1.
La Perla is going upscale with the same cheap menu but with much better service and classier decoration. It's a must visit place for all mongers. Highly recommended.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Don't know what it is but it sounds good. I have to order it next time.
La Perla has been bringing out on the house a plate of marinaded raw fish with green pepper and onion. It's fresh and excellent with a few beers, not even a hint of fishiness. They also bring endless cups of seafood consomme gratis on request.
After a meal of mariscos and a few beers, a big tent is always raised in my pants, which demands a few quick runs to the clubs and the alley. OTH a heavy meal of meat usually weighs me down and sometimes just brutally kills my libido for an hour.
Life is good.[/QUOTE]
ceviche = marinated raw seafood (just like the dish you're describing - you answered your own question ;) )
camarones=shrimp
tostadas=you already know what that is.
The Smut Villain is not only correct but his spelling in Spanish is much better then mine. I think they marinate the raw shrimp in a little salt, fresh lime juice, and some spices. I haven't tryed a lot of La Perla's dishes because I always sit at the bar, order 2 or 3 of these tostadas along with their chips, and either have a few beers or a premium margaritas. I'm never there long enough because I use the place to grab a quick bite and then I jump right back in the game.
Be safe, Rider Jay
[QUOTE=Smut Villain]ceviche = marinated raw seafood (just like the dish you're describing - you answered your own question ;) )
camarones=shrimp
tostadas=you already know what that is.[/QUOTE]
When did this site become a restaurant guide? Stick to the real subject of this board - the Mexican Tuna. Enough already.
[QUOTE=Pico1972]When did this site become a restaurant guide? Stick to the real subject of this board - the Mexican Tuna. Enough already.[/QUOTE]No shit!
[blue]Greetings everyone,
Actually, the ISG Forum is a [u]Travel Website[/u], and therefor travel advice such as hotel and restaurant reviews are perfectly acceptable.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
First of all, thank you to everyone who gave useful and detailed information here before. You made my first trip to TJ much easier and more enjoyable. I had no problems and enjoyed myself greatly.
I walked through the gates and was immediately met by the yellow-shirted Taxi guys wanting to give me a ride for $5. I wanted to walk a little to so I went to the right toward the McDonalds. There the Taxi rides to anywhere were just $3 so I figured that walking two blocks was worth the $2 and hopped it. It was early, about 7pm so I went to the Zone and walked around to get my bearings. Yes, the alley girls really do grab your shirt and some of them hold on very tightly.
I tried Adelitas, The Chicago Club and Hong Kong. Of the three I found that Adelitas was definitely the place for a newbie who didn’t know the game. If you’ve been to a couple of strip clubs in the US, then once you push past the heavy curtains you’ll be right at home here. Grab a seat if you can find one because they fill up.
I instantly recognized “Hottie Central” from the descriptions. These are the really beautiful women that aren’t impressed by anything.
I sat down and looked around. If you make any eye contact at all then it is taken as an invitation to join you and the woman is either looking for a $7 drink to pay her bar fees, or a quick trip upstairs.
One girl that I would call second tier, not quite a hottie central girl, but definitely a 7 came over after she saw me checking her out. I can’t remember her name but she was probably late 20’s, 5-05, slender with lighter brown hair. She sat down and immediately leaned into me with lots of body contact. She started running her hands around until she found the front of my jeans and then started stroking like we were old friends.
I know from other posts that I probably could have negotiated lower but I agreed to $60 (she knew I was new) and went upstairs. When she undressed she had a firm body with just a little sag to the butt.
She took charge and told me to undress. She sat on the bed and asked me if I wanted to be sucked. Well yes… Without asking for any additional cash she asked if I wanted bare or with condom. I played it safe and asked for a condom which didn’t offend her at all.
This was clearly a pro and she knew how to suck, nice varied technique.
She then laid back and invited me aboard. We started Missionary, this was fun but I wanted a bit more interaction so when I pulled back she immediately offered, “Doggy?” Now that was what I had in mind. I got behind and she was smiling at me in the mirror the whole time making eye contact.
I got going and then she did something I hadn’t felt before. She brought her legs together, and twisted her upper body around so that she was butt in the air, but looking backwards under her left arm with her right shoulder on the bed. It made her very tight and totally exposed the hips for great hand-holds. I finished like that. I was ready for her to bolt as described in other posts. She cleaned herself up, offered to leave me the still clean towel if I wanted to take a shower, and took off for the club. Overall a very nice and worthwhile experience, I would definitely repeat.
Good report Blue and I would also like to thank everyone that made my trip easier with all the many fine reports throughout the forums.
I do speak passable Spanish by the way and I think it makes for a better and perhaps more economical experience.
I spent 16 hours in TJ getting a room at the Cascades a few doors down from Adelitas for 35$ which had aircon, hot water and a tolerable noise level. I would recommend the 6th floor as the lower floors are quite busy with the ladies coming and going. I paid an extra 10 to have a plastic card so i had access to my room. It felt safer and i got the ten dollars back on exit.
I started my evening taking the edge off by going with Gracie, a pretty faced spinner who weight no more than 90 lbs. A decent cbj with a couple positions including doggy...for being so small, she took the pounding well. A great way to start and take the edge off for 25$.
Went to a place called Peanuts and Bear in the center of town after dinner, sat down, had a beer and Paola came over and sat on my lap while touching and kissing. Great introduction. She was the opposite of spinner with huge natural tits and a round, firm ass as well as a pretty face. Although i wasnt quite recovered, I came back quickly when she offered a lap dance with bj for 20. We disappeared behind some curtains for about 30 minutes of play as well as a bbbj. I was feeling good.
I then spent a few hours going in and out of a variety of bars....some interesting, some not. I ended up at Adelita's drinking beers and handing out one dollar bills to the strippers. By the way, the dollar bills handed out to the desk, maid and security guys at the hotels made for a good stay.
Finally hooked up with Jessica because all the hot shit 9s and 10s have an attitude I didnt like. Id still fuck them some day. Jessica was a 7 but had a cute face with a nice rack and a wonderful ass to grab. We settled on $60 and went upstairs right after the cialis kicked in. I had told her there was a tip involved for a special good time and she provided it with bbbj, 4 positions including doggy as well as being really into it. I agree with you Blue...the ladies at Adelita's are professionals. Even if she was faking me out, it worked for me.
I was a Tj snob thinking I couldnt have a good time there given its reputation. This year alone, I will have visited Thailand/Pattaya, Cambodia, Argentina and Costa Rica but I will return to Tj and probably stay a few days as opposed to 16 hours.
To top off the trip, I left my room and in a little under an hour, I was on Interstate 5 heading north. Luck, skill and a little help from this forum was all i needed.
Is it just me or has the wait at the border for cars gotten almost to the point of being ridiculous? Might have something to do with all that is going on now in the UK.
Last weekend, the wait was so long that the TJ cops stopped letting cars queue up for the border crossing. I was waved past so I kept driving over to the Otay Mesa crossing and the wait there was an hour.
When it was my turn to be inspected, the guard asked all kinds of questions. He had me open up the glove compartment and then walked to the other side of my car and opened the passenger doors. The guards at the car crossings are even starting to swipe passports and IDs now, much more frequently than in the past in my opinion.
If you want a quick trip to TJ, leave the car at the border and walk. This has always been the case, but now more it's more true than ever...
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]
Last weekend, the wait was so long that the TJ cops stopped letting cars queue up for the border crossing. I was waved past so I kept driving over to the Otay Mesa crossing and the wait there was an hour.
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This is nothing new unfortunately. If they don't do it traffic can back up almost to Revolucion.
Can you take the girls up at las chavelas (or whatever its called), I was there the other night and there were a lot of girls but I didn't see any of them go up, I didn't want to be a ******* and approach one and ask how much? Also anyone have any experience w/ mermaids? Seemed intersting but wasn't sure if it would be a waste of time to go in. Thanks
Hey BlueNose, Adela is pissed because you forgot her birthday.....ready for another trip to Las Pulgas? You wouldn't believe last weekend. Too much eye candy.
Border wait times can be anywhere between an hour to two hours depending on the time of day. Yes, it can back up to Zona Rio and further in the mornings at "rush hour."
Some lines move faster than others. They open the far left lane at 4AM so it's a good if you get in line (cener lane) on Ninos de los Hereos at about 3:30AM, you'll get through no later than 4.
Great TRs from the noobies!! Sounds like the girls treated you right. Good stuff!!
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Jimbo 2]Can you take the girls up at las chavelas (or whatever its called), I was there the other night and there were a lot of girls but I didn't see any of them go up, I didn't want to be a ******* and approach one and ask how much? Also anyone have any experience w/ mermaids? Seemed intersting but wasn't sure if it would be a waste of time to go in. Thanks[/QUOTE]
Yes, the girls of Las Chevalas go up. They use the Cascadas hotel right next door. Most will ask for $50 but will settle for $40. It's a little cheaper than AB and CC and it is not the fuckmill those places are.
Country John - Happy Birthday to Adela. I didn't forget - I just didn't realize it was her B'Day. My card will be in the mail by tomorrow. I'm always ready for another trip to TJ...
Bluse Nose
I queried a bunch of the hotties at Adelitas and could not find too many that would go for kissing on the mouth. Heidi is beautiful and gave a little action and Rosie as well but neither had the true GFE action. Any input on ladies that will give a true GFE?? And yes I am clean and fairly respectable looking for an older fart. And as some may expect, I still want a hottie, not a fatty. If it can't happen I can restrict my mongering to South America and SE Asia but, damn, ther are some hot little ladies in TJ.
By the way, if you dont care much about this topic, Heidi is very sexy, very hot (whew), but I really get off w/ the GFE thing that seems to be lacking in TJ.
Greetings.
Seasoned monger from east coast here. I will be visiting SD in September and planning on hitting Tijuana at least 1 afternoon and 1 night.
I've done Adelitas/HK a few times (great fun I might add). But am planning on street girls this time. I'd appreciate some of your PM's if you are interested in sharing info or possibly going with me. I'd feel better doing the street girl thing and the alley if I wasn't alone.
On a side note. San Diego streetwalkers are as hot as I've seen anywhere from your pics. You lads are lucky.
Thanks for the good info on your forum, and stay safe.
Doc
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]Yes, the girls of Las Chevalas go up. They use the Cascadas hotel right next door. Most will ask for $50 but will settle for $40.
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The real hotties at Las Chavelas have been known to ask for and get more than $50 and I think there may be a few at any given time that don't go up either because they are new or still hope to make a living with fichas and $1 dances.
Hello,
I am just back from 6 days and nights in San Diego and Tijuana.
If you don't want to spend much time reading this. Then here is my overall opinion of Tijuana. As compared to Costa Rica and Panama (where I usually go for mongering). Save your money for a trip to Central America. It's just 'way better' than Tijuana. But if you are in Southern California. Then TJ is very close, and convienent for a 'quick dash over the border'.
There is much written about Tijuana on this forum. So I am not going to try to cover more than I can or should in this brief narritive.
If you want more "local" information about Tijuana. Simply go through the other trip reports on the forum, and you should be able to find out almost anything you want to about what is 'happening in Tijuana'.
I first was in Tijuana in 1967 when I moved to San Diego after being discharged from the US Air Force, and attended my first year of college at San Diego Mesa College. Things in Tijuana have not changed much in the last 39 to 40 years. It still smells, and the hundred of guys who stand around on the sidewalks trying to lure you into their 'clubs" with. " hey buddy - we've got the best club, and the best girls, 2 for 1 - $ 1. 00 beers. Etc. Etc. Check it out, are still there - in force.
I hear that the 'donkey shows' are no longer running in Tijuana. And perhaps they never did exist. But it always made for a good story.
I will say that Tijuana city and the Mexican goverment, has spent considerable money upgrading their streets and roads in the last several years ago. Most of them are now paved, and are quite wide and nice streets.
The Women:
They are still the very young (and some oldies too) girls who come into town for the weekend from the country. Most of them look like local Mexican Indians to me, and are just not very attractive compared to the gals from Central America. Especially the Colombianas. Who put these Mexican girls to shame, as far as looks go.
Last Stuurday evening my wingman - Ho Lover 1 and I walked all over the Zona Roja (North Zone) area of Tijuana. There were lots and lots of the 'pariditas' - girls who lean against the walls. The so called local street worker types.
In a 3 to 4 block area centered around the Adelitas Club. There were perhaps close to 150 of them. Some will just stand there saying nothing as you pass along, others will say " $ 5. 00 - sucky - fucky. Which refers to the $ 5. 00 fee that they want to pay for the hotel room. And then most want $ 20. 00 for themselves.
That's cheap enough for a typical 20-30 minute session with them. But somehow the quality is missing.
I did see a couple of 9's or 10's. But they were girls who were in one of the clubs, and they were obviously American college type girls.
WOW. I would have offered them $ 100. 00 for a little action. But their boyfriends would probably have objected to that. No doubt!
There are better looking gals in the major bars. Adelitas, Chicago Club, Club Hong Kong, etc. Who want from $ 40 and up to go to their hotel room. But even so, I did not see any real georgeous (sp) stunners like you will find at the casinos in Panama City or the 'Del Rey Hotel in San Jose CR.
There seems to be lots and lots of quanity (girls) in TJ, but the quality seems to be very lacking. At least in my opinion.
Hotels/Motels:
My amigo and I stayed at the Motel 6 in Chula Vista which is right on the MTA Trolley Line and only a $ 1. 00 ride away from the Mexican border. This was very convienient, and we made many trips down there and back in our 6 days there.
Most enjoyable experience on this trip was the San Diego - LA Dogers baseball game which we took in our first night. Good game and nice experience for one who does not get to see many major league sports - first hand - since I live in such a small town in SW Missouri.
Plus I was just getting over a cold that I had gotten about 4 weeks ago (I know thats a long time for a cold to hang on) when last in Panama City. So I had about 10 or 12 nice big glasses of fresh squeezed orange juice from the street stands in TJ. It's not orange season yet until November. But they tasted real good anyway.
Also I found and purchased a bottle of antibiotics (for my cold) from one of the local TJ farmicias. I asked first about them going back across the border. And sure enough when I went back into the US. I simply showed the bottle to the US Border Control guard, when he asked if I had anything to declare, and he waived me through without comment.
Eating in Tijuana:
My friend Larry refused to eat anything while in Tijuana. (he would eat before we left at Denny's in the US). But I did, and did not suffer for any of that. I even had a hot dog from one of the many, many street vendors, and actually it was pretty good. I was not 'man enough' to attempt to try the local tacos from the street carts. As they looked just a little too 'gamey' for me, but I did pretty well with some pizza, and breakfast at the Nelson Hotel.
You will actually pay as much or more for food purchased in Tijuana as in the States. So we just found it better to try to eat before going across the border.
Hotels:
On the US side were kind of pricey. At $ 50-60. 00 a night and that's for the cheap places like Motel 6. And then on the weekends. Because they can. Almost all hotels/motels in Calif. Will raise their room prices $ 10-20. 00 per night. Again simply because they can.
But we stayed 4 nights on the US side, and finally went to Tijuana and got a couple of hotel rooms over the weekend. For only $ 20. 00 a night. Stayed at a nice centrally located place called the Hotel Enva. It was clean, fairly quiet, hot water, no a/see though. Although it was fairly cool while we were there, and definately worth the difference from the $ 60-70. 00 a night we would have had to pay at Motel 6 on the US side.
I noticed several other hotels in Tijuana for as little as $ 10-12. 00 per night, which would have probably worked provided you were on a tight budget.
We were disappointed to find out that we were there in the wrong season for the horse racing and the bull fights in Tijuana. As those were springtime pursuits. We were told.
I did plan on going out on one of the party fishing boats out of San Diego, but just did not have the time for that
I met a local girl, Cristal, (39 years, barely 5 ft tall, and about 105 lbs. - but Cristal was really into sex, and was a real throughbred in the sack) I asked if she wanted some money when were finished, and she did not refuse the $ 30. 00 I offered her. Although she showed me one of her checks from her San Diego checking account, and said she would write me a check for the money. Although she never got around to doing that. But no matter, as I definately got my $ 30. 00 worth. And she had at least 6 organisms. So she enjoyed herself as well))) - She was born and worked in San Diego, but lived in Tijuana (commuted every day via the trolley to work and back) and I went out with her a couple of times. But the last 3 days there, her mother fell and broke her leg, so poor Cristal was at the hospital with her mother for most of my trip.
If I moved out there or went back for an extended trip to San Diego/Tijuana I have no doubt that Cristal and I could get it on. Lots and lots, as she said she liked me. And that's going some, since I am 23 years her senior.
But I have found that the third world gals just do not care about age as much as the Gringa's from the US seem to do.
Cristal showed me Tijuana one evening and we went to a couple of the night clubs on Revelotion Ave. (sp) one evening. I was mildly shocked to find out the price of drinks. We had a Coke and a 2 for 1 Pina Colada for her and the bill was $ 13. 00 for those. But again "when in Rome". I believe the real price was probably about $ 5-6. 00 for those drinks so our waiter more than likely just slipped the other $ 7 to 8. 00 in his pocket before bringing me my change.
The waiters in the clubs and the restaurants in TJ are not very good about bringing your change back to you. So be forewarned to watch that when you order. Try to ask what the price is beforehand. Then have single dollar bills to pay when you order. Otherwise your waiter will simply not come back with your change. Thinking that whatever he owed you was his 'tip'.
I never, ever experienced this problem in Costa Rica or Panama. But guess the 'clods in TJ' just expect that they can rip you off. If they feel like it.
The Adelitas Club was the very worse for this kind of thing. Just don't give them the chance to rip you off for their tip. Pay the exact amount. Then only leave a tip if the service warrants it.
Some of the waiters will just come out and ask you to leave them a good sized tip. And for this very reason. I will not.
Best deal at the Adelitas Club was the shoe shine from the guy immediately in front of the bar. You sit down on his chair, and he will literally spend an hour shining your shoes - 'to perfection' for only a tip or a dollar or so. He worked so long on my shoes, and they looked so good, that I gave him $ 2. 50 for the shine when I left. And then told my wingman Larry, to sit down and get a shine too.
All in all I had an enjoyable trip out there, but believe that on my next mongering trip I will again go back to Central America. Instead of to Mexico.
Steve
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I've never been impressed by what's available in LC and havn't had much success there. But my last trip I thought I'd gotten lucky. She looked pretty good in the dark. Drank her ficha slowly. She quoted $80. Took counter of $50 immediately.
Upstairs very disappointing, both in looks and performance. Bossy, insisted on 2 condoms. Don't remember her name. Major avoid.
Attached is only picture she let me take, after agreeing pics ok downstairs.
[QUOTE=hardbarg]I've never been impressed by what's available in LC and havn't had much success there. But my last trip I thought I'd gotten lucky. She looked pretty good in the dark. Drank her ficha slowly. She quoted $80. Took counter of $50 immediately.
Upstairs very disappointing, both in looks and performance. Bossy, insisted on 2 condoms. Don't remember her name. Major avoid.
Attached is only picture she let me take, after agreeing pics ok downstairs.[/QUOTE]
2 condoms??! f that
so are all the gals there fair game? because no one approached me and they were just standing around, also it was there were only a handful of locals, i must be one fugly sob lol
what about the other places on the 'strip' i want to try mermaids next time perhaps or one of the other joints, bad idea?
I read with great interest the Stevewxly post. It is very very accurate. I remember most of what happened to him happening to me.
Anyone who spends time in TJ will however realize that with time and experience the level of service improves and the quality of friends improves. None of the time I spent in TJ for the last year (every weekend and holiday) was spent in the Zona.
You have to have your eyes on in this tourist oriented town. Americans go there to take advantage of everything they can. They are a major source of income. If you're not careful, you'll be taken advantage of. Just like in the USA but on a much smaller scale.
I am certain that women in other parts of the world that are "prettier" than the girls in TJ. I look forward to visiting SA with chuponalgas one of these days, he's been after me to go for a long time. I happen to live with a Maya Morena right now in Tijuana. There are prettier girls to be sure but I have a relationship going with this one that is very satisfying both in abd out of the sack.
Mongers shouldn't be dis-couraged from visiting TJ. For those that live in SoCal it's like living next to a candy store. For those far enough away, perhaps a shot to SA would be a good idea.
There are some stunning girls in TJ. Stunning. Next time, allow me to make a few suggestions.
Country John
Country John,
Thanks for all your feed back, I'm hoping you can help. I am going back to San Diego for 5 days and will visit TJ tomorrow night. I usually go to Chicago Club or Adelita's, can anyone tell me of any other local clubs to visit like Las Chevalas and what they offer? Where is it located in reference to Chicago Club? Also, any good restuarnts that you would recommend. Last time, I went to Negro Orozco in El Rio district, it had very good seafood soup. Any place to get a good massage with good service afterwards for a good price?
Thanks
Just spent a day in TJ and not sure how someone can not like it unless you are just totally against TJ.
As for my first day mongering in TJ
Have not been there in 10 years, I personally thought it looks and smells better then I remember, tho it still looks bad and smells.
Also I walked where I wanted to go and it seems safer then when I use to go down there.
Picked up 3 SWs (a tall spinner type with a round sweat face, a fine looking hardbody with kind hard face and a younger 20s one who was wild as hell). All did CBJ, multi positions, and Sin Ropa (tooks cloths off) with almost no problems (the fine bodies one played with me a little bit but we both had fun with the "game"). All were very responsive, moaning, moving with me and pulling me to them (the fine bodied one did the least amount though). All for 20+5. Lasted about 20-25 mins each. These girls would easily be 80-100 girls in Los Angeles. Also in hindsight one girl disappeared, probably only needing a couple dates, but the other two stayed on the streets for a while with almost no customers picking them up during the morning hours. I am thinking I could have easily haggled better services for longer time with not much extra hit to my cash.
At evening time the HOTTIES came out. Even some white and asian girls came out at this time. And all were on the menu for fun. Some as cheap as $50 and some as much as $150. I did not haggle much hearing that this drives down the service of bar girls.
If you are getting a $50 then the Los Angeles exchange rate would have been 150ish.
If you are getting $150 then the Los Angeles exchange rate would have been $250-350ish. If one of the $150s are great service then you are actually landing a $500 Los Angeles date. I guess some girls actually charge 1k and up in LA and LV but I better be needing a cardiologist after sex for that kind of money.
Also a good hotel I found was Acapulco, down the street from Adelitas across Constitution. You may not want to sleep there alone but I am not sure if I would sleep in any motel in that area by myself unless the door was metal.
Walking down the steet Honk Kong is on is like dying and going to Monger Heaven. I do not want to exagerate but I swear there are 100 girls on that street alone not to mention what you see in the surrounding streets.
"tshhh" "tshhh"
The mating call a SW uses to attract her monger.
You hear it 2-3 at once walking down that road.
Love that place.
I've been reading this forum for a couple of years now. I've never really took the time to post but I do love reading reports posted by Country John and others who enjoy and appreciate Tijuana as much as I do.
I know Tj is far from perfect, and it has its share of problems, but as a resident of San Diego and frequent (and satisfied) visitor, I consider Tijuana to be my second home.
That's why I get so pissed off whenever I read posts by snobs like tevewxly who need to attack and demean Tijuana and its people in order to brag about their awesome experiences globe trotting *****houses around the world.
[QUOTE]Then here is my overall opinion of Tijuana. As compared to Costa Rica and Panama (where I usually go for mongering). Save your money for a trip to Central America. It's just 'way better' than Tijuana."
"Most of them look like local Mexican Indians to me, and are just not very attractive compared to the gals from Central America. Especially the Colombianas. Who put these Mexican girls to shame, as far as looks go.[/QUOTE]As far as the women are concerned. Mexican women can hold their own against any women in Latin America. I've traveled throughout Mexico, and have visited Central America on many ocassions. And i'd say that Mexican women are some of the most diversed and beautiful women in the world. Whoring around for a couple of days in TJ's alleys does not make you an authority on Mexican women. And by the way Colombia is in South America, not Central America.
[QUOTE]Things in Tijuana have not changed much in the last 39 to 40 years. It still smells[/QUOTE]Do us all a favor and make it another 39 to 40 years before you return to Tijuana. Guys like you give us Gringos a bad name.
[QUOTE]on my next mongering trip I will again go back to Central America. Instead of to Mexico.[/QUOTE]Thank You!
[QUOTE=Carlos69]Country John,
Thanks for all your feed back, I'm hoping you can help. I am going back to San Diego for 5 days and will visit TJ tomorrow night. I usually go to Chicago Club or Adelita's, can anyone tell me of any other local clubs to visit like Las Chevalas and what they offer? Where is it located in reference to Chicago Club? Also, any good restuarnts that you would recommend. Last time, I went to Negro Orozco in El Rio district, it had very good seafood soup. Any place to get a good massage with good service afterwards for a good price?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Carlos69,
Try Las Chevalas (turn left as you leave ABs and walk about 300 feet). Las Chevalas is on your left. You should also try HK bar. Turn right out of ABs, then take first right and then first right again into the alley. HK is straight ahead about 750 feet on the right. Las Chevalas is usually a bit cheaper than ABs, with some very nice women in there. HK is mainly a strip club and while you can get the girls to go to the hotel, they can be pricey. Never had too much luck with them in the room, although you can get a privado (private dance) and YMMV.
As for restaurants around the zone, my favorite is La Perla: turn left out of AB and walk straight to the corner. La Perla is diagonnaly across the street with the thatch roof. Also, the restaurant in the lobby of hotel Nelson is quite good (Nelson is located on Revolucion right by the arch). Both are clean, safe and fairly cheap, with La Perla, I think, being the better value of the two.
Blue Nose
always nice to see frequent visitors (even people that have TJ as a second home) come into the forum they have used and enjoyed frequently to complain about a extreamly fair and well written report.
I belive that the over answer was steve had a good time but not as good as in other places. I believe that most people that have traveled to other countries and cities will back me up and say there are better places to find pussy than TJ.
Dont get me wrong there is also a nice boarder town here. Unfortunatly it is not as fun as TJ but when you live 30 min from the border it is a easy stop.
That said if for the same amount of time(and travel costs
) i could be in a FKK club in germany I would be there. Still I like TJ it is a adventure and has its own charm although i have always felt a bit at home in a shit hole.
well here is thanking steve for a well written report and even getting a forum vergin with a vast amount of information that i am sure he will share with us now.
I dont have much expearance there. but i liked Bar tropical. If you can pay a bit more mermads can have a very nice selection. But you miss out on the bar fun. Hong kong is also fun if you come at the right time you can drink a few bears and see the shaving cream show. it is funy if it is not erotic. i found it both.
[QUOTE]always nice to see frequent visitors (even people that have TJ as a second home) come into the forum they have used and enjoyed frequently to complain about aand well written report.
I belive that the over answer was steve had a good time but not as good as in other places. I believe that most people that have traveled to other countries and cities will back me up and say there are better places to find pussy than TJ.
Dont get me wrong there is also a nice boarder town here. Unfortunatly it is not as fun as TJ but when you live 30 min from the border it is a easy stop.[/QUOTE]
I was not simply attacking his "extreamly fair" report. I was criticizing his need to insult and demean Tijuana and its people. He didn't simply state that he did not have a good time, or even that he hated his experience in TJ. I myself have traveled to other parts of the world. And yes i've found cities that were much better than TJ, and some that were alot worse. But I never felt the need to express myself in a degrading manner about a particular city that I did not enjoy . If I wasn't pleased with my experience I would simply not return.
Maybe you weren't able to understand my post correctly. It being obviously apparent that english is neither your first, nor second language. So i'd advice that you invest in a dictionary, or perhaps spellcheck, to prevent you from mispelling every other word in your posts. And remember to capitalize the first word at the beginning of every sentence.
[QUOTE]Still I like TJ it is a adventure and has its own charm although i have always felt a bit at home in a shit hole.[/QUOTE]I think I'll leave that one alone. Since I am not familiar with your background or domestic situation. :)
Nothing spreads faster than bad news. Tijuana has had it's share. No doubt it will continue to get a bad review from those who are accustomed to a different way of doing business.
Members express their opinions, and that's what we're about here. I think anyone with a bit of experience (especially in Mexico in general or Tijuana in particular) would surmise that those who have a negative experience are comparing it to an experience they had elsewhere and were not quite prepared for TJ. What works in SA might not go over so well here.
Perhaps they tried to use SA protocol in TJ, or perhaps they have issues with the way things are done in TJ compared to the Orient. I suppose there are major differences, but there are also similarities.
The market will dictate prices, availability and quality. The fact is that there are some very nice girl in the Zona Norte. The problem is that these nice girls are playing to a different market than the girls in SA or the Orient. The money is different etc.
I've seen some of the most beautiful women in Mexico that I've seen anywhere. Even where I live, there is more eye candy on almost every corner. Some are true heartstoppers. Others are dogs. But you get that anywhere, even in CR. You don't have to go to the Zona to monger, there are plenty of venues all over TJ.
Mexicans are warm people naturally and they don't need to make excuses to cover bad behavior. If they are pissed, they are pissed and you know about it. In the past year, I've gone from NO Spanish to BAD Spanish and everyone I meet in Mexico trys to help me improve my Spanish. From the OXXO clerk to the guys who pump the gas at PEMEX. After they get over the ititial chuckle or two, they are warm and helpful. It's a pleasure to live among them.
People can say what they want about Mexico. Those who know about Mexico need to take it with a grain of salt. Spitting on someone's soup because they didn't have a good time is just bad manners, plain and simple. The cool thing about KNOWING what it's like is that you can read between between the lines and understand what really happened.
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
Personally I prefer the sw's up here in San Diego. When you factor in the gas and the hotel it's roughly about the same. It's hard to find a good bj from a good looking sg in TJ. It's also very rare to get a facial in TJ. The SG's in TJ are much more likely to scam their customers.
It's much harder to find a good looking wsw who will do a facial in SD, but it's worth it when you do.
[QUOTE=Hizark21]Personally I prefer the sw's up here in San Diego. When you factor in the gas and the hotel it's roughly about the same. It's hard to find a good bj from a good looking sg in TJ. It's also very rare to get a facial in TJ. The SG's in TJ are much more likely to scam their customers.
It's much harder to find a good looking wsw who will do a facial in SD, but it's worth it when you do.[/QUOTE]
If you live further away, say in Riverside Country for example you could spend $50. in Gas, then there's parking, hotel, etc. etc.
But then there are those Latinas.......
The more time you spend in TJ the more you can tweak your adventures.
In TJ, you won't get busted for solicitaion or anything like that so the risk is minimal. There are other high rish things to watch out for. The saving there are enormous when you look at the big picture.
IN TJ, the girls must have health cards which proves only that they were seen, not that they practice safe sex. The only laws that control prostitution State-side prohibit it, they don't regulate it.
So there are two sides to every ledger. For me, the risk of tangling with LE Stateside, losing the car, getting written up and all that made the trips to TJ a better idea. Now that I live there I'm glad I chose that route. It's not for everyone though. You have to want it.
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
[QUOTE]Personally I prefer the sw's up here in San Diego. When you factor in the gas and the hotel it's roughly about the same. It's hard to find a good bj from a good looking sg in TJ. It's also very rare to get a facial in TJ. The SG's in TJ are much more likely to scam their customers.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately it is hard to get a decent BJ from som of the 8's and 9's in TJ.
And the prices do tend to be higher than other places i've visited in Mexico and Central America. But you have to expect that from a major border town like Tijuana. Everything is more expensive rent, food, real estate.
All that being said I still wouldnt monger in San Diego. Most of the sw's in i've seen here are usually drug addicts, many with pimps that you've got to keep your eyes on. And on top of that you have LE to deal with; Getting your car impounded, paying a hefty fine, community service, and if your really lucky the local news team might decide to do a story on johns, so now your neighbors get to see you on TV.
The only way i'd monger here in the U.S. would be with some type of escort service. But alot of those might be scams also, and even if it's not a scam it can easily run you into the hundreds of dollars. Thus defeating the original purpose of saving money.
Besides, like Coutry John, I like latina women. Both in look, and attitude. Not to mention that Mexicanas come in just about every size, shape and color imaginable.
The risk of getting busted is very low if you take the proper precautions. Stings are not much of a concern, because they don't happen often. The other thing is that the stings are easy to spot. The decoys don't get in your car.
The other risk is that a UC will follow you. They are easy to spot if you go a drive distance from where you pick up the sw. If you drive on a empty street it's very difficult for the cop to follow you without being spotted. Vice is not out to much because they have better things to do.
The impound law is not much of a concern because either you or the sw has to admit to solicitation. If you they do catch you in the act you could get cited for "lewd conduct in a public place".
The main reason I don't go to TJ is that the quality of service is so low from sg's. The worst bj in SD is the best bj you will probably get from a SG in many cases. It's really a ripoff that so many of the sg's charge you extra just to take their top.
In my mind the only real advantage of TJ sg's is that there is a bigger selection. You do have to cruise a lot more to find a good sw, but it's worth it.
I actually live in LA and the scene here is not that bad.
If I was going to go down to SD there is no reason for me to stop until I hit TJ.
In response to some of the criticism (some good and some not so good) that my recent Tijuana report has received.
Gee, I really did not think by trying to write a true and factual trip report about my recent trip to Tijuana, that it would generate quite so much controversy. I was just calling them as I see them - and having been fortunate enough to have traveled a bit, I was comparing my recent experiences in Tijuana to what I have observed recently in Central America.
Don't get me wrong, Costa Rica and Panama in comparison to Tijuana - are in no way perfect either - in my opinion, but I just stated that I thought that I liked it a little better in Central America than what I recently observed in Tijuana.
Country John -
Firstly thank you John for recognizing that what I said in my report was my own personal opinion. I thought it was fairly factual about the present conditions of what I observed recently in Tijuana. I can see why you might object to a few of my observations, as you say - you are living in Tijuana with a local woman, and naturally I can see that you want to try to keep as good a reputation for Tijuana as you can. I think that is a good thing for you to try to do - make the very best of your present situation, and also try to be a proponent of the area that you have chosen to live in. Congrats to you on that. And also thanks for your good advice about Tijuana here on this forum.
I read some of your reports before going to Tijuana, and found them quite informative and very helpful. And if you are happy with your present situation, which you seem to be, then more power to you, and I wish you many, many more happy years living with your lady in Tijuana.
In response to Newbie51 -
Oh what I wouldn't give to be like you again - young!
I might still be able to round up 3 or 4 young ladies everyday - and just "screw the hell out of them".
As it is now, I have to take Viagra just to get and maintain a halfway decent 'woodie'. And I am only able to take on one a day - at most.
With the curse of old age, comes the need for quite a lot of medicine that one does not need to take in his youth.
And if I once again was young, I would not have to get up 2 or 3 times in the middle of the night - just to go take a whizz. Bummer!
And most of all Newbie51, if I could revisit the glory days of my youth - then I could once again be just like you - "young and dumb and full of cum".
In closing, I am reminded here of a pretty good joke that I would like to share with you -
There were two bulls standing up on a hill overlooking a peaceful valley.
The young bull remarked to the old bull, "Damn take a look down there, there must be 7 or 8 young heifers just waiting for us to join them.
"Let's run down there and fuck a couple of um, said the young bull", to which the old bull replied, "No son, let's walk down there, and fuck um all".
Pura Vida - stevewxly
Here is some good news about Tijuana that I think everyone may want to hear. While in Tijuana about 10 days ago, my wingman Ho Lover1 and I found the following:
The taxi drivers who are lined up just across the bridge inside Mexico may ask for $ 7. 00 to take you to the clubs. Adelitas, Hong Kong, Chicago, Miami, etc. But we found out that if you bargin with them some, they will gladly take you from the border to the clubs for only $ 5. 00.
Then when you get ready to return from almost any area in the Zona Norte. Like around the Adelitas, Hong Kong Club area, etc. Look for the Red & White Libre Taxis. Those guys will gladly wisk you back to the border for only $ 3. 00. They may ask for $ 5. 00 or $ 4. 00 at first, but just say, "no I only want to pay $ 3. 00". You may have to talk to 2-3 taxistias passing by, but one will say OK, and take you for $ 3. 00.
On the P4P girls. We probably personally talked to 100 or more of the SW's or pariditas, while walking along the streets. Almost all of them would say $ 20. 00 for 'fucky-sucky, and then another $ 5. 00 for the hotel room. Which was always right next door to where they were standing. I even took one of them for $ 20. 00 for about 20 minutes and the hotel room was only $ 3. 00.
So guys if you are looking for the cheaper pussy, it's OK to look and window shop in the clubs like Adelitas, Hong Kong, but when you are ready to 'do the deal' for a bargin price, then simply select one from the hundreds of pariditas (girls who stand by the wall) that you will see standing out on the street. And get the whole deal for only $ 23. 00 to $ 25. 00 a pop.
If you are one of those guys who just has to have the "best looking gal" in town, then you will probably find "her" working in one of the clubs. Not on the street. But you will find that you will have to pay considerably more than $ 25. 00 "for her company". Probably more like $ 50. To 60 to $ 70. 00.
One last thing, if you want to stay in Tijuana at a hotel, then there are some in the $ 14. -16. 00 range, of which I have no personal experience.
But for $ 21. 00 you can stay at the Enva Hotel, which is just one block south of the Arch, and you will get a clean, safe room, with double bed, sheets, locking door with key, toilet, hot water shower, towels, (but no air conditioning - but it's fairly cool) in a court yard setting, so it's reasonably quiet - as your room (I stayed in # 20) is back away 60 - 70 yards from the street, which can be noisey at times. And the Enva is 'chica friendly' with no extra charges for guests. And the management never said a word to me when I brought gals back to my room.
The Enva Hotel is only about 2 blocks from the 'heart of the action' - where the Adelitas, & Hong Kong, and several other popular clubs are located. There are pariditas or street walker type gals standing and working on the same street as the Enva Hotel, and most of them will come to your room at the Enva, thusly you can "do the deed" on your turf - not theirs, and even save the $ 5. 00 that you would have to pay if you went to 'their' hotel.
Stevewxly
No worries mate. I tried to stay in context with your TR and your observations were good but typical of someone who has not had much time there, I did not intend to flame you for that at all -it was just an observation.
As far as wanting to paint a good image of TJ is concerned, i'll leave that up to the tourist bureau. Yeah, there are things I don't like about TJ but what I discovered is that there is a big difference between the "quality of living" and the "quality of life." They don't always mean the same thing and that is particularly true of the USA, that's why I have a place in Mexico.
The streets are not paved with diamonds, that's for sure but I'll take the potholes and dust devils over the self cenered arrogance of the USA any day of the week. The Mexican people are warm and giving. They appreciate good company and know how to have a good time; not unlike other people in Latin America or other places in the world. The USA stands in stark contrast.
Many Americans live in Mexico because they are running from something. Perhaps the law or an ex spouse. I am running TO Mexico because I like the people, I can handle the lifestyle (plain and simple) and I don't need the "push, shove, clutch and grab" lifestyle of the USA.
I still have substantial business interests in the USA as well as new business interests in Mexico, where doing business is much easier (you just have to stay on top of things). But as soon as I can I will have sold my interest in the USA, and then Mexico will be my home.
I appreciated your follow up post. I sort of balances things out and give a better picture of where you were coming from.
People need to come to their own conclusions about Tijuana. While it appears to be a grungy place full of dirty situations, one need not look far to find a lot to do and good people to share good times with because life in TJ does not revolve around the Zona Norte. That's for the Gringos.
Yes, I want to defend it I suppose but trust me when I do so from first hand experience, frome living, thinking and doing there solidly over the past year. There is alot people don't know about Mexico. There was a lot I didn't know.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Damn haven't been down for about 3-4 months but decided to check out things. Needless to say it wasn't any better and I couldn't believe most of the girls were the same!
Anyway I just hung out at HK for the night because I wasn't to excited but running around. No girl/girl show while I was there so I am wondering what happened to it? I did see 2 new girls that were pretty but the others were the same so a bit of a let down. Had some drinks and went home, didn't even get a girl....and the line going home sucked nuts.
Well take care and be safe!
[QUOTE=California Guy]Damn haven't been down for about 3-4 months but decided to check out things. Needless to say it wasn't any better and I couldn't believe most of the girls were the same!
Anyway I just hung out at HK for the night because I wasn't to excited but running around. No girl/girl show while I was there so I am wondering what happened to it? I did see 2 new girls that were pretty but the others were the same so a bit of a let down. Had some drinks and went home, didn't even get a girl....and the line going home sucked nuts.
Well take care and be safe![/QUOTE]
Seems to me the old game is gone. Used to be there would be a good time along with the sex. The girls were friendly and would chat but not as soon as they hit the table it's "Ju go to da hroom?" No time to stroke or squeeze. Things have changed.
If you spend time there and get to know some of the girls, you can get back to that though. I guess that's what makes it a "hobby."
But no pop? Sheesh California Guy, next time at least do a 1 pop. You deserve that just for making the trip!
Country John
Thanks for all the advice I am going to plan a trip in November now probably the 17th and leaving on the 19th. I have read all the information so far and probably will stay in Mexico and hit Rosarita during the day for the beach. Only thing is this falls on the Revolution Holiday in Mexico.
Would this be a bad weekend or a good one depending on this.
Thanks guys
I will be making another drip down to TJ in October. It has been a while since I was last there but I almost always have a good time in TJ. I had a few questions for any of the more experienced mongers out there.
Do you know of any chica that performs greek? I have asked many club girls and SWs but with no luck. I even offered $50 tip but still the answer was no. In fact they lookd at me like I was really insulting them. I found that a little odd given the whole nature of what happens in the Zona already.
The second thing I am interested in this trip is potentially an all-nighter with some girl. I read the previous report about trying to find a girl from one of the local clubs and then picking her up after her shift. I have only stayed in the Zona one night but that was in the AB hotel after drinking too much. I would deifnitely never stay there again as the loud music made it impossible to sleep for me. I felt horrible when I woke up @ 8:00 having not slept at all really. Any tips on specific chicas that are willing to do all nighters would be appreciated. I would be willing to pay up to $200+ for the right situation.
If I can't find out these 2 things I will just handle TJ like I have in the past, which means I will still have a good time.
Anyone planning on being in the Zona around Oct 14-19 PM me and maybe we can hook up for a beer.
Netman,
Try going with them for regular sex and when you're 1/2 finished, point at their back side and ask them "Cuanto mas por esto?" (how much more for this).
Cal Guy, has it right. TJ has gone from the good ole days to being something what right wings might approve of or at the least approaching that. The Facist Regime that runs the US would not approve of ***** mongering but thinks it's cool to kill children and call it collateral damage. MPs all across the US are shutting down and it's bleeding over to TJ. The good ole days of ***** mongering are going away, it's all apart of the crusade. Wacko Jesus freaks are running the US into the ground and Mexico is just their lap dog.
[QUOTE=Netman05]I will be making another drip down to TJ in October. It has been a while since I was last there but I almost always have a good time in TJ. I had a few questions for any of the more experienced mongers out there.
Do you know of any chica that performs greek? [/QUOTE]
Jacqueline East side of Ninos Heroes. Under 5' , 110 lbs, short brown/black hair, wears skirts. 5-10 feet south of alley day-afternoon shift. Probably a 300p upsell on top of the stanard rates.
You gots to be very cool on it, and wait till you get in the room before talking about it. Some of the girls will not discuss it on the street because the other girls will over-hear and some don't want others to know. Good luck and have funzies, real women know their stuff.
Country John
i heard about this a few days ago, but have not seen much coverage about it:
After Jan 8, 2007 Passport will be required if traveling by air or sea, to from Canada, Mexico, Bermuda.
this ones going to affect you TJ visiting dudes:
After Jan 1, 2008, US Passport will be required to enter into Mexico and Canada, return to US. via land crossing.
it's all about fightin terrorism, don'tcha kno?
check out the US Dept of State website for more info:
[url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html[/url]
i am making a trip to sd in the next couple of days. wanted to get suggestions from fellow mongers about hotels that offer high speed internet access as well as are close to the trolley system. i am trying to save a few bucks by not renting a car, and would appreciate your advice and input.
thanks
[quote=bean counter]i am making a trip to sd in the next couple of days. wanted to get suggestions from fellow mongers about hotels that offer high speed internet access as well as are close to the trolley system. i am trying to save a few bucks by not renting a car, and would appreciate your advice and input.
thanks[/quote]hi bc,
a friend and i just went to tj for the 1st time in 30 years tuesday. we stayed at the best western on 'e' street in chula vista. it offers free internet service in the rooms as well as free 'hot spots' at other areas throughout the property. it is right next to the visitors bureau which is also a trolley stop. we intended to take the trolley to tj, but a 10 minute taxi ride right to the crossing entrance was only $20 with tip for 2 of us (negotiated with the cabbie at the stand 100' from the hotel).
the ride back later that night was the same price.
the trolley is undoubtedly cheaper, but probably takes quite a bit longer from this location. we stayed here because i needed a 'safe' place, and the internet connection for work.
there are also places in san ysidro which is closer, but i don't have any first hand knowledge about them.
inlander
WOW!
That is all I can say after finally making the trip here from Riverside. I've read the reports for years, and figured they were at least somewhat embellished.
I stand corrected.
Even though we made the trip on a Tuesday afternoon and evening, which the regulars here indicate is a slower, less favorable time to come, We felt like we were in THE monger candy store.
We spent time at the Hong Kong earlier in the afternoon, where beer was 2 for the price of 1 with dancing girls. We tried the Chicago Club also, which never seemed to really liven up, but there were some lookers there.
Adelita's was hands-down the top pick we spent time at. I'm a 'senior' (not talking posts here) monger, and had my ashes hauled 3 times by what I would consider PlayBoy photo material. Over a period of 4 hours. It was just unreal. The service was up there with some of the best; The hotel was clean with a private bath/shower; The price for everything was the equivelant of a 'car date' back home with a homely mediocre provider.
The block in front of the Hong Kong must have had well over a 100 decked out streetgirls looking for action. Some of them were just HOT! I speak no spanish, so I passed on this less expensive action. I'd like to try it sometime with guidance from a knowledgable fellow monger, though. If it is really only $20 a pop, I could afford to put myself into cardiac arrest here!
In addition, it is easy and affordable to get here. We were able to over-indulge in the brewskys since we didn't have to worry about driving anywhere. And the beer prices were the same as a neighborhood bar back home. When we were finished for the night, it was a $4 cab ride to the border, dropped off right where you go through the checkpoint. Once across, the cab stand is right there. $20 for two back to the Best Western in Chula Vista.
I'll be back. Soon and often.
Inlander
[quote=bean counter]i am making a trip to sd in the next couple of days. wanted to get suggestions from fellow mongers about hotels that offer high speed internet access as well as are close to the trolley system. i am trying to save a few bucks by not renting a car, and would appreciate your advice and input.
thanks[/quote]
i don't know about hotels (although pueblo amigo might have wireless access) but you can stop in at the ampm on revolution for a coffee, they have free access to high speed wireless internet.
country john
My trip to Tijuana is already 2 years ago. Anyway, I found some pics i've taken within Adelaide Bar (i think it was adelaide).
Look at the one with blonde hairs: she called herself Africa and was a real sex bomb.
I'm wondering if she is still in business there.
That time I crossed the border from SD to Ti at 2am by foot and was wondering if I get sloshed by someone - especially the bridge over the tijuana was that time absolutely in dark.
I ended up in a hotel (short term category) opposite the Adelaide bar and stayed there for 3 nights - that was a severe time, but luckily i survived lol.
[QUOTE=California Guy]Damn haven't been down for about 3-4 months but decided to check out things. Needless to say it wasn't any better and I couldn't believe most of the girls were the same!
Anyway I just hung out at HK for the night because I wasn't to excited but running around. No girl/girl show while I was there so I am wondering what happened to it? I did see 2 new girls that were pretty but the others were the same so a bit of a let down. Had some drinks and went home, didn't even get a girl....and the line going home sucked nuts.
Well take care and be safe![/QUOTE]Man you must have been REALLY unlucky or something.
Maybe I was down there at a key time but I was there Friday 11 AM to Sat next morning and all day Friday I saw 10-13 a good looking girl and all the ones I asked were $20-30+5. My tastes are younger (18-24) firm bodied girls to get an idea of what I call "good looking".
All I know is next time I go down I need to prepare. After 4 girls in one day I was done for.
Skay33 probably means the Adelita Bar. I believe that the adelitas were the female counterparts to the Mexican revolutionaries as I think are still depicted on the outside wall of the club.
[QUOTE=Skay33]My trip to Tijuana is already 2 years ago. Anyway, I found some pics i've taken within Adelaide Bar (i think it was adelaide).
Look at the one with blonde hairs: she called herself Africa and was a real sex bomb.
I'm wondering if she is still in business there.[/QUOTE]
Yep, that's Adelitas before the remodel, and that looks like Africa at the brass pole. An impressive physical specimen, especially if you prefer solid over slim. Havn't seen her for at least a few months.
I know it's been posted before but just in case anyone is interested in the history of the Soldaderas of the mex rev:
[url]http://www.ic.arizona.edu/ic/mcbride/ws200/mex-jand.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.ic.arizona.edu/ic/mcbride/ws200/woman.gif[/url]
Yes - these are the kind of women with 'pepper in their butt' - always a pleasure to fuck with them lol.
Does anyone know if Sara at Bar Tropical is back from her long vacation?
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I made a day trip with a friend Wednesday. It's been a long time and I wonder why I don't get down here more often. Not that I'm not busy hitting it at home.
Anyways, three street girls and one from Adelitas, 8 hours, great fun and all for under $300 US total for the day.
Mike
Could some one please tell me what it is like crossing the border? Into mexico and back into USA. What are the do's and don'ts. Is their places that are eisier to cross? What can I bring and not bring? How long can I stay? What do I need if I want to drive? I have a old warrant for some traffic tickets, would they pick up on this and I get in trouble?
spent the day down there and really should've done much better after reading most of the posts over the last few months. of course, everyone sees it a little different, but I'm very much a GFE type person so the ST thing and the way it came off today is just way to mercenary for me. One Adelitas girl and two streetgirls definitely left me wanting not more, but something different. Of course I could be wrong so tomorrow I'll go back to CC and HonKong Bar to sample that.
All answers lie within:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1772[/url]
Spent last night in TJ and I don't know what is going on (maybe I'm too picky) but it took me a good 6 hours before I could find a decent girl to f**k. Adelita's truly has gone downhill. The same girls that have been there for the past 8 years are still there and all of the girls that were there, I have already done before. Tropical had a few potential candidates but I'm too impatient to do that ficha thing. Ended up at CC before I found a true cutie. Her name was Marisol, black hair, 36 D, slender waist and small butt. She turned into a GFE. DATY, DFK and all positions. It took a small mob of towel boys to break down the door. Stupid f**kers, didn't bother to give them a dollar.
Thanks, but what do you think about the petty warrant I have for traffic issues, will they pick up on that and hold me in jail?
[QUOTE=Great One]Thanks, but what do you think about the petty warrant I have for traffic issues, will they pick up on that and hold me in jail?[/QUOTE]
If you're talking about a moving violation I wouldn't worry. If it's for a misdemeanor ie driving on a suspended license or DUI that's something else.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]If you're talking about a moving violation I wouldn't worry. If it's for a misdemeanor ie driving on a suspended license or DUI that's something else.[/QUOTE]
I am no expert, but here is my understanding of your situation:
You will not get stopped by TJPD because you have traffic warrants stateside. If you are stopped for running a light or other moving violation, you have nothing to worry about except the $20. morditia (so keep $20. on you or in the car).
If you are stopped for a violation (motor vehicle or otherwise) and are a flaming asshole, you can expect the call to go out if you are not paying up and the cop is pissed off. He might want to "make your day."
Techically, they can run a check on you (via the co-op laws on pediphiles etc) and if you come back dirty with a warrant, they CAN escort you to the border where San Diego's finest waits to exeute the arrest. This has happened in the past.
This is not an extradition procedure, so the treaties don't apply. It's not an immigration issue either but they could "expel" you from the country under the color of "I can do whatever the hell I want." Especially if you do not have a visa (tourist or otherwise).
So my advice to you is handle your warrants State-side and don't expose yourself to the problem in Mexico; it's no place to have legal problems. Failing that, behave when you are there. If you are stopped or detained, be polite. If you fuck up and get caught, be prepared to pay the piper. If it's serious (drugs, criminal behavior, drunk driving etc.) then you just need to see how it plays out. I for one would not be interested in taking that chance.
Be safe and Be nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]I am no expert, but here is my understanding of your situation:
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I thought he was concerned about re-entering the United States and my comments were based on that assumption.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]I thought he was concerned about re-entering the United States and my comments were based on that assumption.[/QUOTE]
Jeez, you might be right......
If that is the case, having boogers on your license does not bar you from re-entering the USA. If you are DRIVING the car and your license is suspended, they WILL ALERT CHP and you can expect to get grabbed soon after entering.
If you have warrants for your arrest, the guy in the booth will not know that but he will get beeps on the computer with instructions to send you to secondary. In Secondary (depending on the warrant) you can expect to be arrested and taken into custody.
Don't be ridin' dirty. Get your situation straightened out. You'll need a passport to re-enter in a few years. Make sure you're qualified to get one otherwise your mongering days in TJ could be numbered. Good luck.
Country John
I know this is bit off topic but I just crossed this past friday with expired tags on my car. I thought it might be a problem but the officer didnt say a word. Hope this helps someone.
I thought that the passport requirement was to begin at the first of the year. Did it get pushed back yet again?
I hope so because even though I haven't been for a while, getting a passport would be a pain in the tuchus due to domestic encumbrances.
[QUOTE=Lascivious]I thought that the passport requirement was to begin at the first of the year. Did it get pushed back yet again?
I hope so because even though I haven't been for a while, getting a passport would be a pain in the tuchus due to domestic encumbrances.[/QUOTE]You'll need a passport to enter the US from Mexico/Canada via boat or plane in 2007. In Jan 2008, you'll need it for walking/driving in.
[QUOTE=Lascivious]I thought that the passport requirement was to begin at the first of the year. Did it get pushed back yet again?
I hope so because even though I haven't been for a while, getting a passport would be a pain in the tuchus due to domestic encumbrances.[/QUOTE]
December 31, 2005 – Passports required for all air and sea travel to and from the Caribbean, Bermuda, and Central and South America.
December 31, 2006 – Passports required for all air and sea travel to and from Canada and Mexico.
December 31, 2007 – Passports or other accepted travel documents required for land border crossings to and from Canada or Mexico.
The proposed rules for the different phase-in dates will be finalized over the coming months, but regardless of the timeframe, by January 1, 2008, all Americans departing and returning to the United States will be required to have a valid U.S. passport. This will undoubtedly cause a backlog in getting passports as these rules take effect. For information on obtaining or renewing a passport, visit the State Department’s Web site at [url]http://www.travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html[/url].
[QUOTE=SilverNitrate] I thought it might be a problem but the officer didnt say a word.[/QUOTE]
It could be a problem GOING INTO Tijuana if the Mexican custom guys choose to be assholes. I lived for a few months in Tijuas with expired registration. I crossed into the U.S at San Ysidro on a daily basis without incident. However going back in the afternoon to Tijuana I got the customs red light and they actually made me turn around and drive out of Mexico. I might have been able to bribe myself out of it but I refuse to do so. When you pay mordidas you become part of the problem instead of helping to erradicate it.
Thanks for the info guys, it was really help full.
I was wondering about both entering and re-entering. And it is a misdomenor traffic issue, not DUI or DWS. It has been around 4 years now since the warrent was issued. I don't really want to resolve it, in fact I refuse to.
I didn't know Mexico had access to US state records like that.
Do you think I would be safe from being taken into custady if I took a taxi, flew, or walked over the border? Entering and Re-entering? Would they pick up on the petty warrent and arrest me?
Mexico probably doesn't have access to your records, but it will be American border agents in which you'll be dealing with upon your return to the US.
It won't matter if you're driving or walking. They may just look at your ID and wave you through, but then, they just might do a check via the computer. For something minor, they'll probably let you go. My friend had three citations for not paying on the trolley, and he never went to court. He was worried about returning to the US. He finally had to go back; they did a check on his ID, and they let him through.
Buena suerte
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]It could be a problem GOING INTO Tijuana if the Mexican custom guys choose to be assholes. I lived for a few months in Tijuas with expired registration. I crossed into the U.S at San Ysidro on a daily basis without incident. However going back in the afternoon to Tijuana I got the customs red light and they actually made me turn around and drive out of Mexico. I might have been able to bribe myself out of it but I refuse to do so. When you pay mordidas you become part of the problem instead of helping to erradicate it.[/QUOTE]
Morditas are not a "problem" in Mexico, they are a "way of life." This is also true for many other countries of the world. You really should re-consider your position.
For about $20. you could have continued on your journey if doing so was worth $20. Perhaps it was more efficient and ecomonical for you to return to the USA then attempt to re-enter. You shouldn't blame the Mexican government because YOUR paperwork was not in order. I've lived in TJ for a year with expired registration, the car is still not registered. Total morditas paid: $38.80. My girlfriend doesn't have a license to drive. When she gets stopped by TJPD she usually talks her way out but once she paid a $15.00 mordita.
Riddle me this: What is the ticket for driving on expired registration in California?
It's no secret that cops in TJ are probably the most underpaid civil servants anywhere. The guys at the border are similar. When they take these jobs, they know the pay is low but the rewards can make up for that. One way is to be able to grant access, another is to "decline to enforce or cite." You see, you're not guilty until you accused.
Country JOhn
I have not been to Tijuana in a few years but I finally made it back recently. I just moved to S.D., and I have been to Zona Norte about 6 times in the first 2 weeks I've been here.
I found that it has become much safer to walk to and from the border. At any time of the night it is well lit and there are police posted along the way. I felt perfectly safe walking alone back to the border even very late at night. It's only a 10 minute walk so I won't be wasting money on taxis anymore.
Anyway, I went straight to CC the first night and met Tania, a 19 y.o. from Mexico city with a smokin' hot teenage body. Really nice, kind of shy girl, but spoke no english so we had to get by with what's left of my high-school spanish. She's fun and sweet and even guided my hand down to play with her for a while before we started. I have never had a CC or AB girl do that before. The only thing I didn't like was that she jumps out of bed and runs into the shower and cleans her pussy out for 5 minutes right after I finish. Oh yeah and the other thing I don't like is her long untrimmed pubic hair. Yuck. I told her she should shave or trim it but she says doesn't want to.
All of the worst girls I've ever had in Tijuana have been at Adelitas but I decided to give it another chance. Went in there on a busy Friday night and hung out and there was a super-hot bleach blonde long haired chic surrounded by several other hotties. I saw her turn down or blow off at least 8 other guys and she kept looking at me and smiling as I stood 10 feet away. I know the rule not to go for the hottest girl in the club but I went up to her anyway. Her name is I think Aileen or something that sounds like that, and she doesn't speak much english. After about 30 seconds of small talk she asked me to go upstairs and I agreed. It was the absolute worst experience I have ever had. Turns out she wasn't quite as good looking in better lighting. She had a Cesarian scar and stretch marks. She would not take her bra off. Her friendly attitude disappeared. She was annoyed that I wanted to take a quick shower first. She refused to do any position but mish. When we started fucking she put her fingers down around her pussy so I couldn't go all the way in! And she wouldn't open her legs all the way and she's like pushing me away. After about 60 seconds she's like "hurry up and finish" and I'm like how can I finish with you doing that? I could not finish with her hand down there and pushing me away and I got really pissed so I just stopped and rolled over and she got up put her clothes on, didn't clean up at all and said goodbye and just walked out leaving me there in the room still undressed. I suppose I could have complained and b*tched about it but I didn't. If you see a hot bleach-blond long-haired girl name Aileen DO NOT GO WITH HER!
After that horrible experience, the next 2 times I went back to Tania at CC and had a good time.
The next time in TJ I checked out AB again. I was going to find Aileen and stand next to her and warn guys to stay away, but she wasn't there. Instead I met a totally cool sexy girl named Lucia from Ensenada. She had large fake breasts which I don't like but she was a great time. She speaks excellent english. She likes all positions. She says she is bi and has a couple of girlfriends. After we finished she said "why don't you go back downstairs and have another beer and pick another girl, I'm not jealous". I said no thanks but how about next time I come, you hook me up with one of your friends and she said ok.
Maybe I've written too much so I'll end the report now. If anyone wants to meet up for a whoring trip to TJ, give me a PM.
[QUOTE=China 69]I have not been to Tijuana in a few years but I finally made it back recently. I just moved to S.D., and I have been to Zona Norte about 6 times in the first 2 weeks I've been here.
I found that it has become much safer to walk to and from the border. At any time of the night it is well lit and there are police posted along the way. I felt perfectly safe walking alone back to the border even very late at night. It's only a 10 minute walk so I won't be wasting money on taxis anymore.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand why this would make you feel safer. IMHO, for most single hobbyists going to sample the ladies in Mexico, walking on their own, the police are the biggest threat that you will face in Tijuana.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]I don't understand why this would make you feel safer. IMHO, for most single hobbyists going to sample the ladies in Mexico, walking on their own, the police are the biggest threat that you will face in Tijuana.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather be stopped by the police than mugged and robbed at knifepoint. Both two times the police have ever stopped me, they frisked me and didn't find any drugs or weapons and let me go without taking any of my money.
I can remember reading this message board 5 years ago and people were saying absolutely don't walk alone to and from the border at night. All I'm saying is it seems safer now, and I'm not taking taxis anymore.
I bought some Viagra last week, and no way was I going to walk around with it at night. I stayed overnight and walked back to the border the next day.
China 69, the reason you were treated light-handedly is because you did not fit the profile of a stoopid drunkin Americano who has no respect for Mexico etc.
Country John
[QUOTE=China 69]super-hot bleach blonde long haired chic surrounded by several other hotties. I saw her turn down or blow off at least 8 other guys and she kept looking at me and smiling as I stood 10 feet away. I know the rule not to go for the hottest girl in the club but I went up to her anyway. Her name is I think Aileen.
I saw her this weekend and I swear she had a look on her puss like she was weened on a pickle. My cousins were all over her giving showering this braod with attention, but I could see that this one was colder that the ice in my drink. I wound up talking to this other girl that was sitting at the bar next to the dance floor. Really cool chick. Went up stairs with her and had a great time. GFE all the way.
Oh, and most of the hotter girls do have C-scars. Fucking road map to ED. Next time turn her around or doggy style it, or just keep the light off.
I applied for my SENTRI pass many a moon ago. Today I called them up to find out what's taking so long, and I was unable to talk to a live person. That was a first. I've called a ton of times in the last few months to check on the status of my application, and I was always able to speak to a Border Patrol agent.
They have a recording that says they have a new "online system." And so I go to their website and I don't see a link anywhere that directs you to their new fancy shmancy online system.
Does anyone know what's going on with their new online system and or how to get a friggin SENTRI pass nowadays?
[url]http://www.cbp.gov/[/url]
[QUOTE=Crash Helmet] And so I go to their website and I don't see a link anywhere that directs you to their new fancy shmancy online system.
Does anyone know what's going on with their new online system and or how to get a friggin SENTRI pass nowadays?
[url]http://www.cbp.gov/[/url][/QUOTE]
Your tax dollars sound asleep. Sentri passes are running between 8 and 12 months. The best way to check status is to walk up to the booth at the crossing and ask the nice guard to check for you. Ask in a polite way, like you're kissing his ass. They love believeing that your happiness depends on their charity. Mutherfuckers.
Country John
[QUOTE=Crash Helmet].
They have a recording that says they have a new "online system." And so I go to their website and I don't see a link anywhere that directs you to their new fancy shmancy online system.
[url]http://www.cbp.gov/[/url][/QUOTE]
Unless they've changed their message recently it says they're IN THE PROCESS of going to an online system.
My as yet unprocessed application is already 10 months old. It used to be that you could call up the SENTRI office there in Otay to check on the status of an application. But now they have a voice message with no option of speaking to a Border Patrol agent. I did leave a message.
I can only hope that government agent who listens to it is in a good mood and determines from the sound of my voice that I am a decent person worthy of the basic needs of human life such as stale breadsticks and moldy drinking water. If that happens, maybe they'll decide to call me back and tell me just what the hell is up. If not, I'll have to go there myself and inquire in person.
I hear that the new online system may not be up and running until early 2007. That information is heresay, and not verified. If that is true, anyone aspiring to obtain a SENTRI pass will just have to wait until then.
All this flaming of Steve for giving his honest opinion about TJ is unfair. Hate to break it to mongers who have only the US to compare it to but TJ is very mediocre as a mongering destination. NOT because there are no hotties, IMHO there are lots of hotties, but because:
1) ST is the norm;
2) paranoia about posting of nude pictures on the web and getting STDs from giving bbbjTC is high;
3) supply and demand (too many gringo sex tourists comparing prices to the US!).
What I find ironic is that Steve compares TJ to "Costa Rica and Panama, where I do most of my mongering". While CR & Panama may be a bit better than TJ, they are still "latin lite" (i.e. for guys without the Spanish skills or the cojones to go to the REAL MONGERING PARADISES FURTHER SOUTH). I went to Costa Rica once in 1988 and it was filled with non Spanish speaking ugly Americans EVEN BACK THEN! Been to Panama a few times in the early 90s to surf, and got my first taste of Colombianas (this was the Miami Vice era when Colombia was much more dangerous than now), but once you taste Colombiana in her natural element the overpriced ones in Panama City and San Jose will lose all appeal.
Guys go to CR and Panama because they are perceived as safe, you can get by just speaking English, and flights from the wasteland are numerous.
Peru & Colombia are SO MUCH BETTER that to compare them to Costa Rica or Panama is an exercise in futilty.
I quite enjoy TJ for what it is, a very convenient place to monger for a weekend or so that blows doors on the repressed wasteland. But for guys taking an actual vacation for the purpose of mongering, GO SOUTH!
I would not usually admit this on a forum read by so many American sex tourists but the cat is out of the bag so to speak. While I still love Colombia, as a mongering destination it has lost a LOT of its appeal over the last 4 or 5 years due to the influx. Read ISG's Colombia folders, Medellin and Cartagena in particular, and you'll see what I mean.
Everything being relastive, however, the number of gringo sex tourists on the ground is less than 1% of the number in TJ on any given night.
Hello Surfer and thanks for your input. I'm not sure "flaming" would be an appropriate characterization in the responses to Steve's posts.
What I got was not an "opinion" as much as an attempt to present the uninitiated with a factual reality when in fact the reality is somewhat in contrast. This is what was pointed out to Steve by myself and I beilive a few others with a bit more time on the street.
Certainly TJ is not for everyone but those of us who have "tamed the beast" through hard work and dedication to the hobby have discovered that, when you turn the thing over, it's got a real soft and tender side (if you know what I mean).
I read Steve's TR with great interest. I'm always interested in the opinion of others with much experience in other markets. While I am no globe-trotter, I've mongered far and wide but now have a house in TJ where I've settled in well and experienced mucu of what others miss on a short swing through.
I don't want anyone to mis-understand or mis-interpret an opinion expressed incidental to a short term visit as the gospel truth when there is so much more to know.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
A VERY reasoned and calm response, thanks CJ.
For the record I was NOT referring to your responses to Steve (more it was Rookie51's posts to which I was refering). You obviously have paid your dues in TJ so you get the best it has to offer.
While I have been going there on and off for 30 years (I was literally 14 on my first trip and will NEVER forget seeing the streetwalkers and HEARING about the infamous donkeyshow), I have never really gotten that deep into it. I did have a regular at the long defunct 5th Avenue Massage (up on the hill), but TJ was always a "filler" for me inbetween trips to more exotic venues.
I find it erratic; some nights I have a GREAT time and think "this aint so bad", but other nights I leave thinking "why do I even bother"?
Cheers CJ; I'll report back next week on how this weekend goes although I doubt I will run into you (as you no longer go to the Barrio Norte). I have gone to the Clubs near Aguas Calientes Race Track, La Cueva del Peludo is the one I remember, and there are VERY few gringos over there, yet it is still ST based and I MUCH prefer the all nighters I get in South America. There is NOTHING I hate more than the dreaded knock on the door to announce your time is up (often BEFORE the 30 minutes has expired, especially on busy weekend nights-I now state the time, in Spanish, when we arrive so if the knock comes early I start screaming at them in Spanish that my 30 minutes is not up until X o clock. )
There is still a lot to like there, and when you find that one gem among the rhinestones (as it sounds like you have) you really need search no further.
[QUOTE=China 69]I'd rather be stopped by the police than mugged and robbed at knifepoint. Both two times the police have ever stopped me, they frisked me and didn't find any drugs or weapons and let me go without taking any of my money.
I can remember reading this message board 5 years ago and people were saying absolutely don't walk alone to and from the border at night. All I'm saying is it seems safer now, and I'm not taking taxis anymore.
I bought some Viagra last week, and no way was I going to walk around with it at night. I stayed overnight and walked back to the border the next day.[/QUOTE]
China, you are absolutely right about the cops in TJ. Yes, they are all crooked, but since you were smart enough to read this forum before going over, you also know what you should and should not be carrying. As long as you have photo ID and are NOT carrying any kind of drug or weapon, then you should be fine. I say should, because if you are under the influence of too much alcohol or drugs or if you are a beligerent asshole then they can and will detain you and even throw you in jail. I have been stopped twice now, and while it was a bit scary I just stayed cool and tried my best to act respectful. I was frisked, but after they checked my ID and determined that I was not carrying anything they just let me go.
In general, I think it's best to avoid the police in TJ, and this is definitely true at night when, under the cover of darkness, the police really take advantage of gringos. It's best to avoid walking by the cops at night if there is nobody else around, since in that scenario they almost definitely will stop and frisk you. For my take, I think you're totally fine walking during the day, but at night, especially late at night, you may want to consider taking a cab to the border just to avoid the hassle of being frisked. As long as you're clean, nothing will probably come of it, but why bother with hassle as well as taking the risk of them planting something on you. For $3, it can be avoided.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Surfer]There is NOTHING I hate more than the dreaded knock on the door to announce your time is up (often BEFORE the 30 minutes has expired, especially on busy weekend nights-I now state the time, in Spanish, when we arrive so if the knock comes early I start screaming at them in Spanish that my 30 minutes is not up until X o clock. )[/QUOTE]
Surfer, you can get around the 30 minute rule with a chica and go for a TLN session if you play your cards right. You sound like you have a lot of experience with this in Columbia and Peru, so I won't bore you with what I think is the best approach. However, I will tell you that your best chances for TLN in TJ is to go off the beaten track a bit into the clubs that are rarely or never mentioned on this board.
If you want TLN, forget about AB, CC or HK. The real TLN gold in TJ is mined in the clubs where the locals hang. There, with few gringos, you will be a bit more of a novelty and the girls will likely be semi-pro or even amateurs working for a few extra pesos. Many will leave with you for TLN for quite a reasonable (by TJ standards) price. I rarely pay more than $100 for a TLN session, and even then I could probably bargain lower, but my guilty conscience does not allow it. My advice is to have a good hotel room lined up in advance so you have a place to go, and go early so that you can spend some time evaluating and getting to know the girl. She will feel more comfortable with you, and more likely to go TLN, if you have chatted a bit with her and had a drink or two. TJ isn't South America or Eastern Europe, but it is still possible to have a really great time for relatively cheap. Have fun!
Blue Nose
BlueNose:
Excellent advice. I SHOULD get off the beaten track to low profile bars with no gringos as my Spanish skills are quite solid, but I must confess I never really make the effort to arrange allnighters in TJ. Thinking about it, I must confess that there is an ambience in the Barrio Norte you really do not get in Peru or Colombia and I have more fun walking around and flirting with the streetwalkers than I do having sex with them! Strange as this sounds, I often WISH there was a place like HK bar that is fun just to hang out at. In SA, it is more common to merely pick the chica then go to her room or your hotel and VERY few places have fun strip shows (let alone the shaving cream shows) that make HK so much fun.
A comment about the boys in Blue: keep your cool, be VERY respectful (preferably in Spanish) and often you can escape sin mordida. Only once did I have to pay; I was walking somewhere I should (in fact EVERYBODY should pasy heed to this: do NOT walk further North than the street with Adelitas as that area is a drug supermarket and cops LOOK AND WAIT for gringos going up there. I was just strolling with my friend when they pounced on us; he took off running but feeling I was doing nothing illegal I did not. They found no drugs, but did find my pocketrocket. So they gave me the spiel about it being illegal in Mexico (not true, I heard Victoria's Secrtet sells them in Mexico) and drove me around in the back of the car for close to an hour (I offered no bribe!) The driver, a guy, kept asking the female cop if she wanted it and would buzz her on the arm etc.
I was patient (I commented that it was kinda cool cruising around the barrio in the back of their car) as they tried the usual tricks to get me to offer them money. Eventually I offered him $20 to give it back (they cost $25!) and let me go (which they accepted in a heartbeat). Headed back to Adelitas and put the pocketrocket to work on the first decent flacita I encountered.
Are there any legit escort services in TJ?
Is carrying 1 viagra tablet illegal?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Adult Fun]Are there any legit escort services in TJ?
Is carrying 1 viagra tablet illegal?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes & yes.
I know of two honest escort operators with very fine chicas and yes, getting caught with viagra without a mexican prescription can get you in trouble (translation: you'll have to pay a bribe to the cops).
[QUOTE=Adult Fun]Are there any legit escort services in TJ?
Is carrying 1 viagra tablet illegal?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes but operated by gringos I believe they post on other sites and Craiglist.
1 tablet is legal but YMMV. It's all up the the cop if he thinks he can intimidate a bribe out of you but they are non-prescription in Mexico. Not legal to bring them back to US though.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]Yes but operated by gringos I believe they post on other sites and Craiglist.
1 tablet is legal but YMMV. It's all up the the cop if he thinks he can intimidate a bribe out of you but they are non-prescription in Mexico. Not legal to bring them back to US though.[/QUOTE]
There are two excellent agencies in TJ. One run by a Gringo and the other is a non-Gringo. Both are outstanding guys, the services are excellent and safe.
There is controversy over the viagra issue. On the list of medications for which a prescription is REQUIRED, it SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDES medications to treat erectile dysfunction.
Others have said this is bullshit. But the document says what it says, Country John did not author the document.
The cops will search for Viagra and if they find it they will intimidate you into paying a mordita so be prepared - keep an extra $20 tucked in your sock. Take the Viagra IN THE PHARMACY, don't wait until you leave.
Mongers are doing Viagra like candy. You guys really need to "bone up" on this stuff. Talk to your doctor or ANY doctor.
Be safe and Be Nice
Country John
FYI here's the pricing I've gotten on Viagra. I have bought from a couple of pharmacies in the area right after the taxi stand but before the Tijuana River bridge. I have never bought on Revolution.
Authentic Pfizer 100 mg: $12 each
Authentic Pfizer 50 mg: $9 each
Generic viagra 100 mg: $5 each
I was told there is no 50 mg generic. 100 mg is way too much for me so I bought the generic and the pharmacist offered to split them in half with his pill-cutter. Pretty cheap, only $2.50 per dose. The Pfizer pills are individually packaged, the generic is not and just comes out of a bottle.
I read that viagra can't be cut in pieces because the medicine may not be uniformly distributed in the pill, but every half-pill I've tried has worked just fine.
If you want to buy a bunch of pills in the daytime and then go straight across the border back to the US, then you probably don't need to worry about getting busted by the TJ police.
[QUOTE=China 69]FYI here's the pricing I've gotten on Viagra. I have bought from a couple of pharmacies in the area right after the taxi stand but before the Tijuana River bridge. I have never bought on Revolution.
Authentic Pfizer 100 mg: $12 each
Authentic Pfizer 50 mg: $9 each
Generic viagra 100 mg: $5 each
I was told there is no 50 mg generic. 100 mg is way too much for me so I bought the generic and the pharmacist offered to split them in half with his pill-cutter. Pretty cheap, only $2.50 per dose. The Pfizer pills are individually packaged, the generic is not and just comes out of a bottle.
I read that viagra can't be cut in pieces because the medicine may not be uniformly distributed in the pill, but every half-pill I've tried has worked just fine.
If you want to buy a bunch of pills in the daytime and then go straight across the border back to the US, then you probably don't need to worry about getting busted by the TJ police.[/QUOTE]
[B]DO NOT TELL PEOPLE TO PURCHASE MEDICATIONS WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION IN TIJUANA AND THEN ATTEMPT TO RE-ENTER THE USA. IT IS ILLEGAL. IT IS NOT PERMITTED. YOU COULD HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE LAW.[/B]
[b][u]DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT[/u][/b] "buy a bunch of pills in the daytime and then go straight across the border back to the US." One person who tried that a few years ago is in jail right now. Mind you, he had about 3000 pills, but that's not the point. How many is a "bunch?" Don't take the chance.
If you fuck this up, and an entry is made in the US Customs/Homeland Security computer that [b]YOU[/b] (Insert your passport number here) were detained because you had a "quantity of prescription drugs without a valid prescription" on your person then you can look forward to a lovely interview every time you cross, provided you don't get real stupid and end up in jail.
If you want to avoid TJPD then take the pill in the drugstore. The whole idea is that you want to have a solid woody for mucho sexo con latinas, si? OK. Then don't worry about smuggling this stuff back to the USA.
The real deal Viagra can be cut in half, no problem. The drug store guy is bullshitting you.
Sheesh...
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
Guys,
Listen to Country John I have been going down to T.J. for many years since at least 1969, lot whorring lot of stupid atuff as a young man, but I swear never ever try to bring anything back as far as pills are concerned does not make a difference if you buy viagra and end up in jail.
Take them before leaving pharmacy, enjoy, do all the tings you want to do, do not carry any pills.
Ask the pharmacy for a doctor and get a prescription on the mexican side, cost $25, or a little more, but do not take across border not legal, legal in T.J. but that prescription means nothing crossing the border. And what it does for your record for entering and leaving is something you do not want.
Friendly warning guys. Enjoy, and happy hunting
I drove into Tijuana and got pulled over within 20 minutes. They looked at my prescription bottle for allergies and said it was "drugs". The crooked cops then demanded a 200 fine or go to the station. I paid up and was not going to risk getting ass fucked in a Tijiuana police station. The cops target cars with American plates.
[QUOTE=Country John][B]DO NOT TELL PEOPLE TO PURCHASE MEDICATIONS WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION IN TIJUANA AND THEN ATTEMPT TO RE-ENTER THE USA. IT IS ILLEGAL. IT IS NOT PERMITTED. YOU COULD HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE LAW.[/B]
[/QUOTE]
I wasn't telling anybody to do anything, I was just sharing information.
Yeah, it would be pretty stupid to smuggle thousands of pills into the USA.
[QUOTE=Guy #2]I drove into Tijuana and got pulled over within 20 minutes. They looked at my prescription bottle for allergies and said it was "drugs". The crooked cops then demanded a 200 fine or go to the station. I paid up and was not going to risk getting ass fucked in a Tijiuana police station. The cops target cars with American plates.[/QUOTE]
Is that 200 pesos or 200 dollars? Don't tell me you paid 200 dollars for having prescription medication AND a valid prescription....please.....
If you have a prescription for the medication (drugs) in the bottle, [b]NEVER[/B] pay the cops. [b]NEVER NEVER[/B].
It doesn't matter what they say. You should [u]demand[/u]to see the judge. Make sure you get the cops name and the unit number. Don' let these bandits with badges rip you off. If you demand to see the judge (in a firm but polite way) the cop will back off. Guaranteed.
[b]If you have a prescription that is valid, current and for the meds in the bottle, you are ok legally. If you have a prescription for Viagra and have 300 pills with you then you will have a problem. Be reasonable in what you bring across. Bring enough meds for your stay. If you are going to be in TJ for the weekend, don't bring a three month supply.[/b]
One mistake people make is that they become assholes. That can get you a 2 hour tour of TJ from the back seat of a police unit.
TJPD know within 3 seconds if you are easily intimidated and if so, they know it's pay dirt.
Be safe and Be Nice
Country John
What's up bro's?
I go to the dentist down there. Even if its for just a cleaning or check up nothing serious. I was lucky to find a good clean one. Jus go in grab a phamphlet / card (remember to bring a prescription bottle from home) hit the pharmacies down stairs with a wad of cotton in your mouth. Get 10 bucks. Azithromycin or any kind of other med you like and about a benji worth of see's. Toss'um in the bottle with the others. Itll cost you the same with the cops. So might as well make it worth it. But definitly don't get greedy, especially in the same pharmacy.
10 isn't gonna get them all takin away from you, or get you in any trouble on the us side either.
I've been getting ripped for see's everytime I go down.
I usually get them from a pharmacy behind the micky d's at the roundabout just over the bridge. But I think they have since raised the price, and I really don't want to contribute to the inflation. Are they really trying to charge $15 per. Now?
I head down on Friday to get a few cavities filled. I'm wondering what can I do.
Generics?
Do they give headaches?
I gave a little, hoping to get a little back.
it was $200. i have been told that nothing would have happened if i had gone to the station. but at the time i was scared shitless and did not want to get ass [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] waiting in jail. i know that probably would not have happened. but why take the chance? i still had a great time in mexico.
[quote=guy #2]i drove into tijuana and got pulled over within 20 minutes. they looked at my prescription bottle for allergies and said it was "drugs". the crooked cops then demanded a 200 fine or go to the station. i paid up and was not going to risk getting ass fucked in a tijiuana police station. the cops target cars with american plates.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Country John]TJPD know within 3 seconds if you are easily intimidated and if so, they know it's pay dirt.[/QUOTE]
Says it all.
Just a quick update from last week (a Sunday) in case you are a "print a reference thread and go" type.
1. The Londres Sports Bar is locked up and closed.
2. Madonnas is closed - has been for quite some time.
3. Hotel Nelson, just steps away from the action, is charging $52 for a queen bed room. The place is nothing special, but it worked out well for convenience.
4. Quotes in the alley were mostly in the 5-10 dollar range with the usual upsell as mentioned elsewhere.
5. The massage place attached to Martinis, just across from Adelitas (look for girls in school uniforms), was doing a brisk business. Don't know if it was good or bad, though. As for Martinis itself, it is a small place with decent looking but very limited selection of ladies. $7 lady drinks.
6. On the night I was there, Chicago was dead and Adelitas was rocking, especially around 10 pm. By 1, Adelitas has slowed considerably. Just one night, though.
7. The alleys had the best selection from about 7-10, and by late night the quality went way down. Again, this was just one Sunday night.
8. La Plaza Del Zapato ($4 taxi) had some fun bars and nightclubs which local folk seems to go to. It is in the Zona Rio, a wealthy part of town. Not a red light type of place.
K
Has anybody been thrown in jail from this board? If yes, what were the charges and how long did they hold you for? What happened on the inside? I'm curious to hear these stories since everyone has been talking about being careful with the Viagra and Levitra.
[QUOTE=Kilmarnock]Just a quick update from last week (a Sunday) in case you are a "print a reference thread and go" type.
1. The Londres Sports Bar is locked up and closed.
3. Hotel Nelson, just steps away from the action, is charging $52 for a queen bed room. The place is nothing special, but it worked out well for convenience.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the update. IMHO losing Londres Sports Bar is no great loss to anybody on this forum. Even as a local hangout it was a dump with absolutely no action to be had at it. Most days it was empty of customers and chicas. As for the Nelson, they seem to have lowered their price a little - it was as high as $60, but it does vary by season. My sense is that this may be due to Hotel Hacienda de Santiago opening just a block away, and being nicer than the Nelson - all for $43 per night. It is sold out most weekend nights now.
I'll be going down next weekend and I hope to have a good TR to bring back when I return. Will make the usual rounds to the usual places but hopefully going for a TLN with a hot chica. I'll be staying at the Santiago if anybody wants to get together for a beer or a quick tour. Just ask for Senor Blue...
Blue Nose
[quote=guy #2]it was $200. i have been told that nothing would have happened if i had gone to the station. but at the time i was scared shitless and did not want to get ass [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] waiting in jail. i know that probably would not have happened. but why take the chance? i still had a great time in mexico.[/quote]
even the greatest time in mexico can be tempered by paying $200 on a bullshit deal.
glad you had a nice time. never pay that kind of money to the cops. never. offer $30 if you are going to offer anything at all, and that's just for the inconvenience. next time demand to go to the judge. demand it.
country john
Well, my number came up the other night. I was walking on Constitution, getting some fresh air. a block from Adelitas. I have done this 200 times with no problems. Suddenly 2 cops sprang out of a doorway, threw me against the wall, told me not to look at them or turn around, asked me a bunch of questions about drugs, pills, and drinking while they went through my pockets, then let me go. I had two 20's left, they kept a $20 bill from my pocket and put back the other one.
It wasn't worth their while to hassle me further as I leave my credit cards and ATM cards in my car, so they cannot make me withdraw money as they have done to some people at gunpoint. I never carry knives, pills capsules or any powders, so they have no excuse to jack me. They WILL jack you for a viagra or even an aspirin in your pocket, claiming you have to stay in jail til the lab results come back. They also work with some of the street bums, the guy will ask you what time it is, and if you stop to tell him the time they will swoop in and claim you were trying to buy drugs.
They were hassling EVERY gringo who walked by, and I saw them throw one in the back of a squad car for "drinking". There are VERY few gringos going to TJ these days, and lots of desperate robber-cops, so your odds of getting jacked by the cops is high now. I also saw 3 roadblocks where they were tearing apart cars with Calfiornia plates, looking for money to steal or a pill or a seed or a penknife or whatever to blackmail the driver. I used to drive across but it just isn't worth it any more!
So then I take the usual taxi ride back to the linea, and got jacked AGAIN by the bandido cops who hide in the dark at the taxi drop-off point. They searched me, asking for viagra or pills or knives, found nothing on me, didn't take the other $20 LOL, and cut me loose. Oh well, that's life in the big city!!!
Lessons, leave your car on the US side, don't carry a bunch of cash, credit cards or ATM cards, no pills, powders, rolling papers, knives or mace, and better to buddy up (they tend to pick on single guys) AND/OR to take a cab door to door each way. These things seem to run in cycles, and right now the TJ cops are particularly nasty and aggressive.
Wonder why there is an increase in "robbery by police?" Well, Christmas is amost here.
There is [B]ALWAYS[/B] an increase in police robberies around this time of the year. Lots of presents to buy, you see.
There is also a lot of drug traffic in TJ, there are a number of gang bangers and cartel burros out there who they are trying to locate and lock up.
I understand that most members of this and other boards think that TJPD is one grand lawless band of banditos and while they certainly have issues, that is NOT the case. Yes, there are bandit cops out there. Yes, they are looking for an easy mark to pick up some extra cash for the holidays. Yes Yes Yes.
So be careful around this time of the year espcially.
And "jingle bells," baby.
Country John
[QUOTE=Rabo Verde]I also saw 3 roadblocks where they were tearing apart cars with Calfiornia plates, looking for money to steal or a pill or a seed or a penknife or whatever to blackmail the driver. I used to drive across but it just isn't worth it any more![/QUOTE]
I went down to TJ on Saturday night and took a taxi from the Linea. The cops had a checkpoint with cones across the road for all cars right after you go under the freeway exit ramp. Every car had to stop. They waved on my my taxi, but had three cars with USA California plates pulled over. All three had a single male driver. Further down they had a squad car parked along the pedestrian walkway back to the border. The lights were flashing and they had had some people stopped. Again, solitary males.
TJ was rather empty that night, especially for a Saturday. Police were around the zona but didn't stop me.
Take care, boys.
[QUOTE=Mike 123]I went down to TJ on Saturday night and took a taxi from the Linea. The cops had a checkpoint with cones across the road for all cars right after you go under the freeway exit ramp. Every car had to stop. They waved on my my taxi, but had three cars with USA California plates pulled over. All three had a single male driver. Further down they had a squad car parked along the pedestrian walkway back to the border. The lights were flashing and they had had some people stopped. Again, solitary males.
TJ was rather empty that night, especially for a Saturday. Police were around the zona but didn't stop me.
Take care, boys.[/QUOTE]I saw the same thing. My taxi driver said this whole thing was about a new seatbelt law they are cracking down on. It's an easy 20.00 a cop can make if you are unbelted. Stay safe.
Jimmy
I have to go down to TJ, the Grand Hotel/Twin Towers area on Mon. 10/23 returning Weds. Anyone have info on some fun in that area? My Spanish is passable, so I'd like to meet some locals if time permits. Any working girls in that area or do they confine them all to the Zona and Rev?
Also, I was planning on driving down but am now reconsidering. If I do drive I was thinking the Otay Mesa crossing would be the way to go (and come back). My thinking is that either crossing is about the same distance from where I need to go and the cops are concentrating on the tourist area.
Any feedback is appreciated.
I've been going to Mexico for 25 -30 years now but have learned a lot of good info from you all (especially Country John). Thanks. Hopefully I'll have some input and be able to reciprocate when (or if) I get back.
Pump
Just another data point on the activities of TJ's finest lately.
Traveling by taxi from the border to the Zona Norte the evenings of October 18, 19 and 20 we encountered a police checkpoint all three nights. The cops waived my taxi through without a look every time, but I did observe other drivers had been stopped. We were through so quickly I can't generalize about who the police had singled out.
I saw no unusual police activities in the Zona Norte proper.
Returning to the border by taxi I saw a pair of TJ cops at the "Sentri" drop off point all three nights. To be more specific, the cops were standing in the shadows under the stairs coming down from the bridge over the roadway from the yellow taxi stand. They had their back to the stairs, facing south toward the sidewalk where you get out of the taxi. It was only by accident that I spotted them. Clearly, they had chosen to stand there so they could see people alighting from taxis, while being difficult to spot themselves. I also suspect that appearing out of the shadows enhances the surprise and puts the victim on the defensive.
I suppose you might try getting dropped off at the yellow taxi stand and walking across the bridge before heading north to the pedestrian inspection building. But even then you'd end up at the bottom of the steps, which is close to where the cops lurk in the shadows. So it would still be easy for them to intercept you. (Which is, of course, why they've chosen that spot to set up shop.)
In the meantime, it seems obvious that it's stupid to get out of the taxi carrying anything that will give the cops an excuse to claim you broke the law. But you already knew that.
Finally, I'd be interested in the wisdom of the group regarding other risk reduction strategies. Is there any way of getting a taxi to drop you off closer to the pedestrian inspection building? If not, what's the best way to walk past these greedy cops? Is there merit to traveling in pairs? If going it alone, is there body language that might prove helpful? Acknowledge the cops with a self-assured nod? Or ignore them while trying to look bored and mean?
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]If you drive over in an expensive car at night, the odds are much higher that you will be targeted by the policia asshole. A cheap car in the day time has lower probabity.
Take a taxi to Zona Roja and back. You will save a lot of money, time and headache.
Tt's obvious that both policia and militar always try to squeeze money out of tourists. Just be firm and refuse to give them propina. The asses would drop you looking for easy target. They would let you go.[/QUOTE]I was stopped at a "Reten" around 12:30 am on a Wednesday night a few block from Revolucion Ave.. I was driving a 2003 VW Passat with CA tags and as I approached them I kindly said "Buenas Noches Caballero" and handed my over my Drivers License. The cop quickly scanned the back seat and then immediately let me through with no additional hassles. Maybe I was lucky... but knowing a few words in spanish & speaking in a friendly but direct manner to them will acknowledge your respect for their authority.
Sometimes these Farks just need to have their ego stroked.
I went to TJ on wednesday night and no cops bothered me at all. I walked to and from the border.
Saturday night I went again, there were 3 cops staking out the east side of the long TJ River walking bridge. I used the strategy of avoiding eye contact and not looking at them but that didn't work, they said "Stop, where are you going?". I said I'm going to Adelita's. They didn't seem to care that I was out whoring but they said not to make any babies. They checked my passport and searched my pockets and around my shoes. I had emptied my pockets completely in my car and only carried money and my car key. They didn't make any attempt to take money. No drogas, no weapons, no problemo. I have been frisked so many times that getting stopped by the cops doesn't really bother me anymore.
Walked across the bridge and 2 cops were on the other side of stopping people entering the west side of the bridge.
At Adelita's my all time favorite Lucia de Rosarito was there and we went right upstairs. This is the coolest chick I have ever met in La Zona Norte. I asked her for an hour and paid the $24 for the room. Damn! I didn't have enough money to pay her for a whole hour so she went back to the desk and got $12 refunded for me. I promised her I would do an hour next time.
30 minutes later out the door and walking back to the border. Cops stopped me at the west side of the TJ River bridge I handed them my passport and assumed the position. They laughed and didn't frisk me and let me go. The same 3 cops from before on the east side didn't stop me when I walked out the bridge.
When I was standing in the customs line I was wondering if the border agents were going to start recognizing me since I pass through about 2 times a week. Sure enough the guy at the counter said he remembered me from a few days earlier, and he made a smart-ass comment about why do I need to be going to TJ so frequently.
I started being dropped off at the yellow taxis and walking over the two bridges. It still doesn't work. Two TJ cops were waiting for me at the bottom of the stairs right where the line ended in the afternoon on a weekday. Of course I had nothing but my wallet and keys. They frisked me three times and asked me tons of questions in front of everybody in line. It's going to get worse as Christmas nears and they need to extort more money from us. They let me go with no money stolen. I was lucky. The only thing I could think of now is crossing at Otay. I have never seen TJ cops hanging around at Otay.
[QUOTE=Pumphernickel]I have to go down to TJ, the Grand Hotel/Twin Towers area on Mon. 10/23 returning Weds. Anyone have info on some fun in that area? My Spanish is passable, so I'd like to meet some locals if time permits. Any working girls in that area or do they confine them all to the Zona and Rev?
[/QUOTE]
The closest action to the Grand Hotel would be the La Mesa bars ie Titanic, La Cueva del Peludo, Nachos which I believed has changed names and further east 7 copas. I don't how how busy they are during the week.
1. If you carry anything illegal in Mexico and are stopped, you will have to pay. You will pay the cop his mordita, or you will pay a fine to the judge. How much you pay depends on what you got and how much you got (as well as how much money you got, if the cop decides to play you).
2. If you do anything illegal in Mexico and are caught, ditto the above.
3. There are laws in Mexico, just like in the USA and you are expected to [b]know[/b] them, otherwise you will be stoopid and lose some cash.
4. You do not have to pay the cops. If you did nothing wrong and you're not riding dirty then insist on seeing the judge. The cops will kick you loose.
5. There are dirty cops in Mexico. The current ratio estimate is 4 out of 10 are dirty.
5. Cops in Mexico do not need to have "probable cause" to stop you and you have NO miranda rights. You can go for failing to co-operate. So don;t be an asshole.
6. Several cops have been brutally murdered in the last few months. They are all froggy right now so don't fuck with them, this is NOT the time to be riding dirty.
7. Have your paperwork in order. Your vehicle and YOU must have papers. Have MEXICAN INSURANCE on your vehicle. Sqare away your documentation. Mexcico is NO PLACE to have an accident, even if it is not your fault. You can spend an entire day squaring thing away after an accident. If you are wrong and are not financially responsible (with cash or insurance) you will have big time problems. Don't go there.
8. The cops under the bridge will search you if they WANT TO. Be ready for it by not riding dirty. Do not pay them any money, count your money before you hit the line and don't take any of their shit. Remember, you are in a foreign country. Let them search you. Be polite but firm, count your money before leaving them. Don't be afraid to ask for a supervisor if things get out of hand.
9. If you fall out of the taxi and are a drunken fool, then expect to be manhandled. Yours will be a situation that they are willing to take advantage of. Keep the odds in your favor. Behave.
10. Clean your vehicle up before going to Mexico. It will help you if you are stopped to have a squared away trunk and interior. Make it easy to search by cleaning it up yourself.
11. Don't pronounce TJPD guilty of doing their job. They have the legal right to check you out so you behave yourself and be co-operative. Let them do their thing. They want to know if you have weapons, dope etc.
12. If you have a trick car or if you dress funny then expect to get stopped because that's one of the profiles they are following up. Remember that since major drug mules were taken off the street and they are trying to et dope into the country by other means.
13. One Federal Officer I have breakfast with on Saturday mornings now tells me that one thing that really pisses him off is when Americano Gringos treat him like he is stupid. They get the full monty. Don;t fall into that trap. Be respectful of the badge even though the wearer might be an asshole. Show some class.
14. Maseros, maseras, street vendors and even the girls rely upon a minimum fog factor or stupidity level in Americans to get their scam across. Certain TJ cops are also a part of this group. They believe that you will be intimidated by the badge and become frightened. Some may even fear physical attack. If you resist, do stoopid things or wander off the beaten path then you can expect nasty things to happen. Don't be stoopid. If you're not riding dirty or have done nothing wrong then DO NOT be intimidated. These are guys just like you and me. They've stopped tousands of Gringos in the past. They all lie, most have something on them and most are disrespectful assholes. No big mystery there right? Well, be right there dealing with the guy. Don't be a wimp. This will send a message to the cop that you're not going to turn over for him. He will move on once he finds you are a tough guy.
15. Don't lie. Cop: "Excuse me sir, where are you going?" Gringo: I'm going to Adelitas Bar, maybe Chicago Club and Hong Kong Club too." Cop: "What are you going there for?" Gringo: "I am going there to see the girls." Cop: "What for?" Gringo: "Because I might want to have sex with them." Cop: "Don;t you know that in Mexico, prostitution is illegal?" Gringo: "Yes." Cop: "Then why are you going to Adelitas to have sex with women for money, isn't that illegal?" Gringo: "If it is illegal, then can you tell me why these businesses are open?" Get it?
This might be off topic, but my fellow mongers need a few baseline facts here. Sorry for the mis-spells and bad grammar.
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
Country John,
Much thanks for an excellent, right on the money, common sense guide for our travels in TJ. That post should be required reading for all newbies headed to our favorite place. Its also a really good refresher for those of us who have been going down for a longer time.
Kudos amigo!
[QUOTE=Country John][B]DO NOT TELL PEOPLE TO PURCHASE MEDICATIONS WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION IN TIJUANA AND THEN ATTEMPT TO RE-ENTER THE USA. IT IS ILLEGAL. IT IS NOT PERMITTED. YOU COULD HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE LAW.[/B][/QUOTE]You are partially correct. It is illegal to bring over 50 doses of a controlled substance (except Schedule I) into the US without a prescription across an international land border. 50 or less without a prescription is specifically permitted by US law.
[url]http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode21/usc_sec_21_00000956----000-.html[/url]
I got the sudden urge to make a run down to TJ on Saturday night (weekend before last). The traffic was light, I suppose because of the gray skies. Arrived at about 7:30 p.m.. Grabbed a taxi to the Arch and headed down Constitucion. When I got to the store where one of my favorites stands, she wasn't there. I'm on friendly terms with the guy who works at the store, so I asked if I could have a seat inside to wait for her. No problem. After about ten minutes she returned from Hotel Irma. I'll called her Miss NoKisses [Sorry, but after being burned here by using real names, I have to use fake names]. We greet each other and head down to the alley to get a room. The first hotel is full, the second has a room. I check in and we get comfortable. I ask Miss NoKisses to spend the night and she has a list of excuses. In bed, we are just not getting along very well at all. She starts with the no kisses routine, I'm not in the mood, so after ten minutes of this I tell her to forget it and get dressed. I walk her back to her location and leave her standing there with her mouth hanging open in unbelief that I would dump her. I guess I was in a bad mood.
I wander down to the far end of the alley and say hello to several friends working. I see my longtime friend, let's say, Miss Gordita. Gave her a kiss on the cheek. We talk for a bit and I tell her I want a beer and will be back shortly. I turn the corner and then the next corner, heading down Calle Coahuila (the opposite way from Adelita Bar). I stop at Bar Latino Amor. Nothing much happening there. I head down further to New York Bar and have a seat. I order a Bohemia and sit at the stage. There is a very attractive girl in a micro bikini dancing on stage. Very cute, but she never takes off the bikini. I look around and see one or two other cute girls and four or five uglies. The next girl gets on stage. She has a pretty face but thicker body. She's wearing an oversized shirt completely covering her torso. She never even takes off the shirt! She has an attitude like maybe she's the manager's girlfriend or something. I decide to cut and run.
I head back to my street girlfriend, Miss Gordita, and ask her to go to Bar La Gloria with me for some cheap beers and dance. She readily agrees, but as we're approaching Las Chavelas, she says she wants to go there first. Okay, no problem. We go in and have a seat. She's never been there before, but says she has a friend that's working there. We order beers and just enjoy relaxing a bit. A girl off to the side keeps trying to get my attention and showing me the gymnastics she can do with her tongue. I just point to my girl and wave her off. A huge, fat blonde girl is awkwardly giving a table dance to a guy a few tables away and it's quite the spectacle. We're laughing our asses off watching it. Well, after a few beers, my girl never does see her friend, so we head off to Bar La Gloria.
Bar La Gloria is a locals dump on Constitucion between Coahuila and the alley. Don't bother checking it out, you'll be disappointed. Girls work there as independents for dollar dances. The bar doesn't have its own girls or a hotel. Fiche drinks are like $3, with $1.50 kickback to the girl in cash. They don't bother with fiche tickets. Anyway, we have a few drinks and dances and head back to my hotel, where Miss Gordita performs a CBJ, then some great ball slurping, and then the nasty. I walk her back to where she works and then head back to Bar La Gloria.
I take a seat at the bar facing out to the dance floor. Some fat girl sits next to me and is soon joined a by a pretty friend that basically stands in front of me. I gently tug her hair and when she looks around, I point to her friend, like she had pulled her hair. She then pretends to fall back into my lap, over and over again. Two minutes later she's sitting next to me and I give her the okay to order a fiche beer. She has a pretty face, and rich brunette hair, and a decent body. She's far above the typical girl one finds in this bar. She says her name is Jessica. She's vivacious as hell and all over me physically and with bullshit flattery. It's not five minutes before she's telling me she wants to have my babies, and on and on. I'm thoroughly enjoying myself. Our combined lack of English and Spanish seems irrelevant and is easily overcome with kisses, hugs, and laughter. Oh, and another fiche, but WTF, they're only $3 here.
I'm no match for the skills of Jessica the Vivacious. The music changes and she asks if I want to dance. I tell her no, but she insists, this her favorite song and we simply must dance. Okay. More fiches, more dances, and much more bullshit flattery. It was a lot of fun, but eventually I decide that's it's time for the hotel or nothing. Of course, she actually has no interest in going to the hotel with me and when push comes to shove, we say our good-byes. I'm disappointed but still had a lot of fun. It cost me four fiches at $3 each plus tip. I did get a photo of us for 40 pesos, just a momento of some fun times.
I circle the block and stop in front of Hotel Cascades to say hello to Miss MyNovia and her friend Miss Flaca. We hug. When I was in TJ two weeks ago, Miss MyNovia asked me to take some photos of her. I haven't made the prints yet. She wants her photos, but I don't have them. Next time I'll have them. She asks if I am borracho. I tell her yes and very tired. It's past 1:00 a.m. She tries to convince me to go to the room. I tell her no. She says she saw me with Miss Gordita earlier. I just smile. She asks how come I fucked Miss Gordita but not her. I give her a hug, kiss her on the cheek and head off to my hotel.
I toss and turn throughout the night. It's noisy in the alley. I wake several times and guzzle water to prevent the headache caused by dehydration. I never really settle in and around 5:45 a.m. I take a shower and get dressed. The alley is still booming. I'm looking for a special friend that works days in front of Hotel Mini. She's not here yet. I walk down to Cascades and my novia is still there. We stand there and hold hands for 20 minutes. She'll be going to Mexico City next month on vacation. I drift away and eventually am surprised to unexpectedly see my friend Miss PetiteLatina coming out of Hotel Najera. It's 6:45 a.m. and a bit early for her. She is equally surprised since she didn't see me arrive in TJ last night. We're both happy to see one another. She is one of my closest street girlfriends. We just plain get along well. She's raising her son by herself, her husband having abandoned her several year ago. We talk for a bit and I tell her I'll get together with her later.
Walking back to Mini, I see my friend Miss SweetLinda walking up the famous Mini hallway. I take her hand and say hello. She is also surprised, to see me. I turn her around and we head up to my room.
Miss SweetLinda is freshly showered and looking and smelling fantastic. She is young and beautiful. She has the softest skin, flawless really, and rather pale for a Mexicana. Big wide eyes and mouth. She is loving and gentle and compliant. I give her a big hug and kiss. She laughs and wipes away the red lipstick from my face. I tell her she is a beautiful and she shyly thanks me. Naked in bed, she is very gently stroking my body all over and giving me goo-goo eyes. She loves to kiss. She is so fresh, just out of the shower, so I decide to slurp on her down under for the first time. Later, she gives a wonderful CBJ while my fingers explore her body. There's no rush with her. She is amazing, a total sweetheart. Her goal is to please. Afterwards, I shower and a take short nap.
I decide to see if my friend Miss PetiteLatina is around, but she isn't right now. I walk up to Revolucion to go to the ATM and then back down to the alley. There are a lot less girls now at 9:30 a.m. than at 6 or 7 a.m. Down at the far end of the alley two friends are out bright and early. One is close friends with Miss Gordita and gives me shit as I grab the other to go to the room with her. Miss Chiquita has a beautiful face with gleeming eyes and a dimpled smile. I don't actually have sex with her. I just want to spend some time with her. I know, I'm a chump. She's very affectionate and we lay on the bed talking and playing. She grabs two Polaroid photos out of my shirt pocket. The first is Miss Gordita taken at Las Chavelas and the second is Jessica the Vivacious. She's critical, of course, and ask lots of questions. It's a tough business and everyone is competition.
So, finally, I see Miss PetiteLatina standing at her corner. I snag her bring her back to Mini with me. She's dark after a long summer in the sun and I just love her beautiful tiny body and very long straight black hair. She has a maturity beyond her years and is probably the most normal thinking, well-balanced streetgirl I know. We catch up with each other's personal lives and laugh together about my adventures and disappointment last night with Jessica. I'm exhausted after the long night and earlier session with Miss SweetLinda, so she has her work cut out for her this morning. We know each other so well at this point, that everything goes well although I take more work than usual to finish. I walk her back to her corner and stop for a soda and then rest in my room for a bit.
Around noon, I stop to say hello to Norma. She begs me to take her to the room. I do but spend the whole time just fingering her panocha. She complains that her skin is to dark and she wants to be lighter, I tell her I like her dark skin. She asks if I think she is too fat. She has a slender, hard body and I tell her she is perfect. She takes my hand and tells me to rub faster.
It's getting late, so I pack up my stuff and check out of my hotel. I grab my backpack and make a finally trip down the alley to say my good-byes. As I walk past Hotel Cascades, I look over and see Natalie standing in front of Hotel Eduardo. She gives me a big smile, damn, I haven't been with her for a long time. I wave but continue walking. Down at Venecia I pass out some Dove chocolates to the girls and say good-bye, turn around and head back up the alley and then up Constitucion. Miss NoKisses is standing in her spot eating some watermelon chunks. I take her hand and walk down to Hotel Irma with her. In the room I explain my disappointment with her yesterday, and tell her what I expect next time. She's young and immature and doesn't know how to react. We finish our business. She's quiet. I say good-bye and go to find a taxi to the border.
The line is terrible. It takes an hour to get through. It was typically trip, really, some good times and some disappointments. I'll be back.
Mike123, one of these days we're gonna hook up again. Great TR. You're a vet and know that it's a box of chocolates down there in the Zona. Sounds like you are establishing your regulars though and with time they will be a sure bet, provided they are "in the mood."
The newbies and unknowns can be more unpredictable. But everyone has a bad day right?
Country John
I haven't been to La Zona in a couple of months so I decided to take a quick trip after work. Got down to the US side lot at 4:30pm. Such a nice day, and still light out, so I decided to huff it and save the taxi $$. Checked out Recolucion and noticed 3 new MP's open. One big one above a bar/disco called the Aztecca??
Popped into Adelitas. About 60% full. The ratio was 3 to 1, chicas to guys. The chicas looked pissed, no dinero. Headed out to Hong Kong next. Chubby chicas up on stage. The place is 1/2 full and it's 2 for 1 beer time. Saw mainly 4- 6's here. Chugged my brew and headed out to the alley. Elbow to elbow chicas as always. Trying my best to stay arms length away so my shirt won't get ripped.
Next, I had to down some tacos next to the Chicago Club. Stepped into the club at 6:15pm. I was the only dude in the joint. 12 bored chicas sitting around, one on stage. I was hoping to hook up with my favorite but she must be on the late shift. I settle for a chica that offered an hour for $30. She wasn't any Halle Berry but she allowed me to pop a nut, save money and get back on the road home. It ended up being about 30 minutes and I gave her $40, cause I knew she wouldn't have change.
Good trip. Saw no muggings, kidnappings or assaults. If you know the route you'll be OK. Just remember to bring your passports with you real soon.
Counrtry John is right in all terms. You guys, especially gueros, have to realize that 99% of every Mejicano will resent you. What that means is that the Tj cops will alwasy want to 'eff' with you for the simple fact that you are white. They get on the defensive of a guero coming down and 'screwing' a mexican chicka only because of jealously. This may not appear as an obvious case but as a Pocho myself (white washed mexican) I have been subject to may 'interrogations' while on my mongering trips to TJ. Now, I'm lucky enough to be brown enough to fit in, but many I'm sure are too white too attract attention for their own good; so in my very humble opinion... just be cool, travel in pairs, and do be vigilant and direct should you be stopped by a TJPD. I always keep an additional 20 bucks in my front left pocket should I get stopped and need a quick reslolution to the matter; but many 'puercos' will let you go if you are just couteous and kind, but direct, in the way you speak with TJ law enforcement. They know exacty why you are down there for...just be cool, do not be intimidated, and enjoy your stay. Preferlibly with a couple of friends.
Remember, YOU are the foreigner. Do not imposed YOUR ideals into this country.
I'll be done there on the 3rd of Nov to take my compadre who works at AVN. He is very ineterested in exploring the Adelitas side of life.
Saludos Muchachos!
~Geek
[QUOTE=Country John]Mike123, one of these days we're gonna hook up again. Great TR. You're a vet and know that it's a box of chocolates down there in the Zona. Sounds like you are establishing your regulars though and with time they will be a sure bet, provided they are "in the mood."
The newbies and unknowns can be more unpredictable. But everyone has a bad day right?
Country John[/QUOTE]CJ,
It's just like earning your stripes!
Be safe bruthas!
Late nighters, there is a new policy that all bars must close by 3am. Some kind of "experiment", but no telling how serious they are, or for how long. La zona was a very strange place this morning. Lots of dazed looking guys milling around outside a dark Adelitas. Lots of policia.
Mayor Hank is apparently playing along with San Diego and the State in an effort to cut down on the number of drunks driving back the USA from the Zona on weekends. That's why you're seeing more roadblocks and checkpoints also when you are on the way out of Mexico, they want first whack at your wallet.
The word is that there are too many drunk drivers leaving TJ Satuday and Sunday morning so the curfew has gone into affect. This why you are seeing a drop in pricing for the girls.
The girls are now more interested in esarly TLNs and better deals because the nights are shorter. Be smart and take advantage of it. It's just a matter of time until everything returns to normal however (me thinks).
Be safe and be nice
Country John
I was down for a brief stop over, and saw a cute young lady standing across the street from the Hong Kong. Went over and did the pre interview, price, nude, what, ect. She told me that the girls on her side of the street charge $15. That was a new one to me, she said that her side of the street is $15 and the other side(Hong Kong side) is $20.
For the bargain seeker it appears that you can save $5 just by walking across the street.
[QUOTE=Double]I was down for a brief stop over, and saw a cute young lady standing across the street from the Hong Kong. Went over and did the pre interview, price, nude, what, ect. She told me that the girls on her side of the street charge $15. That was a new one to me, she said that her side of the street is $15 and the other side(Hong Kong side) is $20.
For the bargain seeker it appears that you can save $5 just by walking across the street.[/QUOTE]
There is usualy no touching the tits, no kissing, no fingering etc. She should spring the menu on you after you've paid her (and the room).
Just make sure it's all-inclusive BEFORE you get into the room. There are some very very nice looking girls on that side of the street too.
Be safe and Be Nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Toad Tamer] Checked out Recolucion and noticed 3 new MP's open. One big one above a bar/disco called the Aztecca??
[/QUOTE]
Actually Azteca has been around for years. The one that is new is VivaMex across the street from the even newer Caliente sport book/casino.
Popped down to TJ last Saturday with the very specific purpose of seeing my fave, who is rapidly becoming my novia. I don't generally go for the 15 or 30 minute sessions, except maybe as a warmup so I have been cultivating a whole stable of TLN girls over the past few months. Most of them are the "gems" pulled from the local bars, and many of them are either semi-pros or even amateurs. They won't go the room with just anybody, and will really only TLN with somebody they like.
Rolled into town and headed over to the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago. Great place, but man is it crowded on the weekends! Hard to get a room there, and the front desk guys are giving me lots of dirty looks and attitude (this may very well be due to the "jealousy" that BillyGeek speaks of below.) They, like the cops, know exactly why you are there, and I think it pisses them off to have some pale faced gabacho come in and fuck Mexican women. (Never mind that most Mexican women I speak with, especially the ones who have been married and are now divorced, seem to prefer American men).
Anyway, I got the room and then went over to Aztec for a massage. Great way to start the day, and relax from a long drive and a long week. It was too early to meet my fave, so I popped into AB for a drink and a look around. Usually I just go for the Coronas and the eye candy, but last weekend I saw one that caught my eye. She had that slutty college girl look, like a girl at the mall who you'd like to fuck. Well, anyway, I approached her (name is Rebecca, but I didn't ask where she was from) and didn't even bother with the ficha. We went right into negotiations - she quoted $60, but settled for $50. BTW fellas, some ABs girls are now starting their quotes at $70 - yes seventy dollars. Don't be a fool and pay that...'nuff said.
Anyway, in the room, Rebecca surprised me by starting with a BBBJ - a first for me at AB, and then going right into cowgirl. We switched to mish and then finished up with doggy. All in all, a great session with a great, hard bodied girl. As we were finishing up, we had a good laugh as the couple in the room next to us were really going at it. This guy was banging his girl so hard I thought the wall was going to break. It was like he had just been released from prison after five years. Anyway, I finished up and went to pick up my girly, who finishes at 8 (most of the bars change shifts at either 8 or 9). When I came in, she saw me, kissed me and then went to shower and change while I grabbed a beer and caught my breath.
From there we went over to La Fogata, which is a nice restaurant on Av. Benito Juarez, about a $4 cab ride from the zone. This is a nice place, and there are many middle and upper middle class Mexican couples in there, so behave yourself if you do go, and make sure your girls wears something decent! They have live music here (at least on the weekends) and my girl was very impressed and appreciative that I took her to such a nice place. It's different from the places in the zone, and the food is really good (I recommend the carne Asada). Dinner for two, including drinks, came to US$33. They have a nightclub upstairs there, but I had different plans so after a very nice dinner we headed back to the Santiago where the real fun began.
Mexican women are just so much more appreciative of the things that men do for them. My girl was so happy with the dinner, and the nice rose that I bought her, as well as the respect that I paid her, that she rewarded me with a great session. Sessions with her are always great, but this one was especially nice. When we were done, she curled up next to me on the bed and we just slept. It is hard to describe the feeling of her soft body next to mine, but for me this is what makes it all worth it: the fact that her affection, passion and feelings are real. Remember guys, a little priming ($33 dinner, $4 roses and respect) goes a loooooooong way with your TLN girl or novia Mexicana. She didn't even want money the next day, but I insisted that she take it to help support her family and two children back in Veracruz. What a great girl, and she has the typical sad story (single mom, husband left her, no work where she comes from) that no nice, sweet girl like her deserves.
There are hundreds of sweet TLN girls with the same story as her in the zone who are just aching to be with a nice guy. If TLN / novia is your thing, treat them nicely, and you will be justly rewarded with passion and affection that will surpass your wildest dreams.
Blue Nose
Nice TR old buddy, old pal. I almost ended up at la Fogata Saturday night but went to Las Pulgas instead - La Fogata is definitly back on the list. I like La Fogata a lot. Did yo know about the disco upstairs?
PM me so we can hook up one of these weekends - maybe next.
Country John
Las Pulgas is a "locals" type club with a disco, Banda room etc. Most of the people who go there Friday are single and Saturday is mostly couples with singles showing up around 11PM.
I am impressed with the eye candy late at night. There were some seriously beautiful girls there Saturday. I'd have a great time there if I were soing solo.
It's not a Zona bar. You ask the girls to dance. Youmight find one who wants to go home with you but every one of them are out for a good time which may or may not include a session with you. It's great place to find a girl.
If your presentation is good, you'll have no trouble meeting the girls.
Approach them and say "Vamose por ballet conmigo por favor?" Then get them up on the floor, watch them dance and get a squeeze in every few bars.
They are looking for gringos who care, have manners, dress like human beings etc. So scrub up and go there.
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]I was in Las Pulgas a few weeks ago. The place was packed with young people. Some of the chicas were extremely hot in clean, wholesome ways... very yummy to my taste.
How does one pick up the nonpros at Las Pulgas? I dont suppose this standard phrase would work, 'Trenta para fuckie suckie, toda sin ropa, toda la nocha...?'
I need some quick lessons in Spanish, or I may get slapped in the face, hehehe!!![/QUOTE]The easiest way to talk to regular senotirtas:
"Gustas bailar?": would you like to dance?
"Como te llamas (yammas)": What's your name?
"Eres de aqui (ahkee)": Are you from here? Are you form this area?
"Eres muy hermosa/bonita": You are very beautiful/pretty.
"Vamos a otro club/bar": Let's go to another club/bar.
"Me acompanas a otro club/bar": Would you accompany me to go to another club/bar?
"Tienes novio/esposo": Do you have a boyfriend/husband?
"Quieres una bebida": Would you like somthing to drink?
Just a note that you should not pick up on any local broad that is accompanied by any local man. Most of the times they are with some shady guys that just might be working with the local cartel who will not appreicate your interest in their company. This is especially true in the Zona Rio area of Plaza del Zapato. The locals call this area Plaza del Balazo.
"Balazo": Bang/Bullet.
Capich?
Be safe!
~Geek
[QUOTE=Country John]They are looking for gringos who care, have manners, dress like human beings etc. So scrub up and go there.
Be Safe and Be Nice.
Country John[/QUOTE]Word. Be clean and dress to impress, but leave the Rolex at home. Paying for a couple of drinks goes a long way though.
[QUOTE=BillyGeek]Word. Be clean and dress to impress, but leave the Rolex at home. Paying for a couple of drinks goes a long way though.[/QUOTE]
Another thing, don't be giving the big eyes to another guys girl, which is where BillyGeek is leading to in his other post.
Show respect when you are in the civilian world mongers. You're going to run into very traditional minded girleys out there so make sure you bone up on protocol.
The number one turn off at Las Pulgas:
White guy walks in with his baseball cap on backwards, wearing shorts or cut-offs with tennis shoes and a t-shirt that is either dirty or has some fucked up slogan like "I Fuck On The First Date" silkscreened on it. Unless you got some long green you're going to be leaving alone.
Now you might not think it's a big deal. I don't think it's a big deal either but I'm not going to bed with you anyway. Probably no one else will either. Break away from the typical arrogant American presentation and present yourself as a gentleman with manners and a good attitude. Believe me, they (the girls) are worth it.
I'd love to get more input from BillyGeek. You never stop learning.
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
Was in TJ yestarday afternoon. Walked across as I always do and took a Taxi Libre to Adelitas fo $3. This was around 4:15PM and traffic was horrible (aka normal for TJ LOL). On the way did not see any checkpoints but did see higher than I'm used to Policia presence with cars pulled over. Interesting to note was that 4/5 had Baja plates. Walked in and my favorita playfully scolded me for being late as I told her I'd be there at 4. Spent a wonderful couple hours before parting company. Took a yellow cab back to la linea for $5. Upon exiting I observed a black Policia vehicle with 4 officers in the customary spot at the bottom of the bridge ramps. We acknowledged each others presence and I continued on my way back through customs/immigration.
The comments made by Country John and BillyGeek are right on the money! When need to remember that we are guests in their home, we should ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be polite and, if the situation arises, respectful of authority. Keep in mind, its "their house-their rules". As with anywhere you go, a friendly smile can go a long way.
[QUOTE=Country John]Las Pulgas is a "locals" type club with a disco, Banda room etc
It's not a Zona bar. [/QUOTE]
Although not a zona bar you will see zona girls there because of its proximity to the zona and because many zona girls like the kind of music played at Las Pulgas.
How much does Las pulgas cost on Friday eve / Sat eve?
Some one told me 20US $s?
Is it worth it?
Suppose you apply for a job with the federal government, or with a government contractor. They search this database and discover that on multiple occasions over the past five years you've entered the U.S. at San Ysidro between 1:00 and 3:00 a.m. What kind of inferences will be drawn? Or suppose that one time you enter the guy behind you is up to no good and the database reflects you entered the country 30 seconds apart? Will you be forever linked by data mining with him?
Scary stuff gentlemen. Scary stuff.
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U.S. Plans to Screen All Who Enter, Leave Country
Personal Data Will Be Cross-Checked
With Terrorism Watch Lists;
Risk Profiles to Be Stored for Years
By Ellen Nakashima and Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, November 3, 2006; A18
The federal government disclosed details yesterday of a border-security program to screen all people who enter and leave the United States, create a terrorism risk profile of each individual and retain that information for up to 40 years.
The details, released in a notice published yesterday in the Federal Register, open a new window on the government's broad and often controversial data-collection effort directed at American and foreign travelers, which was implemented after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
While long known to scrutinize air travelers, the Department of Homeland Security is seeking to apply new technology to perform similar checks on people who enter or leave the country "by automobile or on foot," the notice said.
The department intends to use a program called the Automated Targeting System, originally designed to screen shipping cargo, to store and analyze the data.
"We have been doing risk assessments of cargo and passengers coming into and out of the U.S.," DHS spokesman Jarrod Agen said. "We have the authority and the ability to do it for passengers coming by land and sea."
In practice, he said, the government has not conducted risk assessments on travelers at land crossings for logistical reasons.
"We gather, collect information that is needed to protect the borders," Agen said. "We store the information we see as pertinent to keeping Americans safe."
Civil libertarians expressed concern that risk profiling on such a scale would be intrusive and would not adequately protect citizens' privacy rights, issues similar to those that have surrounded systems profiling air passengers.
"They are assigning a suspicion level to millions of law-abiding citizens," said David Sobel, senior counsel of the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "This is about as Kafkaesque as you can get."
DHS officials said that by publishing the notice, they are simply providing "expanded notice and transparency" about an existing program disclosed in October 2001, the Treasury Enforcement Communications System.
But others said Congress has been unaware of the potential of the Automated Targeting System to assess non-aviation travelers. "ATS started as a tool to prevent the entry of drugs with cargo into the U.S.," said one aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject. "We are not aware of Congress specifically legislating to make this expansion possible."
The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, chaired by Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), yesterday asked Homeland Security to brief staff members on the program, Collins's spokeswoman, Jen Burita, said.
The notice comes as the department is tightening its ability to identify people at the borders. At the end of the year, for example, Homeland Security is expanding its Visitor and Immigrant Status Indicator Technology program, under which 32 million noncitizens entering the country annually are fingerprinted and photographed at 115 airports, 15 seaports and 154 land ports.
Stephen E. Flynn, senior fellow for national security studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, expressed doubts about the department's ability to conduct risk assessments of individuals on a wide scale. He said customs investigators are so focused on finding drugs and weapons of mass destruction that it would be difficult to screen all individual border crossers, other than cargo-truck drivers and shipping crews.
"There is an ability in theory for government to cast a wider net," he said. "The reality of it is customs is barely able to manage the data they have."
The data-mining program stemmed from an effort in the early 1990s by customs officials to begin assessing the risk of cargo originating in certain countries and from certain shippers. Risk assessment turned more heavily to automated, computer-driven systems after the 2001 attacks. The risk assessment is created by analysts at the National Targeting Center, a high-tech facility opened in November 2001 and now run by Customs and Border Protection.
In a round-the-clock operation, targeters match names against terrorist watch lists and a host of other data to determine whether a person's background or behavior indicates a terrorist threat, a risk to border security or the potential for illegal activity. They also assess cargo. Each traveler assessed by the center is assigned a numeric score: The higher the score, the higher the risk. A certain number of points send the traveler back for a full interview.
The Automated Targeting System relies on government databases that include law enforcement data, shipping manifests, travel itineraries and airline passenger data, such as names, addresses, credit card details and phone numbers.
The parent program, Treasury Enforcement Communications System, houses "every possible type of information from a variety of federal, state and local sources," according to a 2001 Federal Register notice.
It includes arrest records, physical descriptions and "wanted" notices. The 5.3 billion-record database was accessed 766 million times a day to process 475 million travelers, according to a 2003 Transportation Research Board study.
In yesterday's Federal Register notice, Homeland Security said it will keep people's risk profiles for up to 40 years "to cover the potentially active lifespan of individuals associated with terrorism or other criminal activities," and because "the risk assessment for individuals who are deemed low risk will be relevant if their risk profile changes in the future, for example, if terrorist associations are identified." DHS will keep a "pointer or reference" to the underlying records that resulted in the profile.
The DHS notice specified that the Automated Targeting System does not call for any new means of collecting information but rather for the use of existing systems. The notice did not spell out what will determine whether someone is high risk.
But documents and former officials say the system relies on hundreds of "rules" to factor a score for each individual, vehicle or piece of cargo.
According to yesterday's notice, the program is exempt from certain requirements of the Privacy Act of 1974 that allow, for instance, people to access records to determine "if the system contains a record pertaining to a particular individual" and "for the purpose ofcontesting the content of the record."
Many interpret the new tighter controls at the border as an ecroachment on our civil liberties. I guess it's true, to a point.
But I'm willing to give up my condom size if it means that Alama Al Salamamamamamalamalamalamlaamalama doesn't get across with his little backpack.
I still like walking doen the street and not worrying about if a car will blow up and send my ass to the stars. Anything I can I to ehlp I'm willing to do.
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
Benjamin Franklin
[QUOTE=Adventur]How much does Las pulgas cost on Friday eve / Sat eve?
Some one told me 20US $s?
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The cover depends on who's playing there. If it's a well known banda or norteño group they might charge $20US. I went by there today and they are advertising a cover of 100 pesos for this friday and 80 pesos for saturday.
[QUOTE=Bunky]They search this database and discover that on multiple occasions over the past five years you've entered the U.S. at San Ysidro between 1:00 and 3:00 a.m. What kind of inferences will be drawn?
The Border patrol or customs usually do not know at what time you are entering into Mexico, especially if you are doing it on foot. When you cross back they will ask you how many days you were int the country and for what reasons. Those of you who have nothing to hide will be OK. Just tell them you were down there for family reasons, or that you were there to visit the local universties for educational research such as at Universidad Iberoamericana located in Playa de Tijuana, or the UABC (Universidad autonoma de Baja California). Granted you are crossing back at an unusual hour like 2 or 3 in the morning, but the main reason that you are doing it is to avoid the long ass lines (have you seen them during the day? Holy crap). Or you may have a meeting a your local San Diego college (like UCSD, SDSU, Southwestern college) to discuss your educational trip to Mexico the next day at an early hour. Yes, the MAN will have you on record as going to Mexico many times, but be creative when you cross back. It's not like Big Brother does not already have your bank transactions or credit report already... Just be creative and plan your strategy from the get-go. Just believe the same lie you tell your spouse on the reasons you go into Tijuana/Ensenada so many times (at least what I tell her:)).
Be cool muchachos!
~Geek
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]. In furthering the beautiful friendship between USA and Mexico.
Bravo! Bravo!
Show us more.[/QUOTE]I am very glad to help out. I lived in TJ for 6 years after living in Ensenada for 15, and am happy to divulge as much info as I can on the current situations that are affecting this city. I have some family within the Juzgados Federales that always forward me info on the events that may affect our mongering activites, and I will be more than happy to post them here to help everyone of you be safe; but I add that it is important that it is up to you too also keep vigilant as you travel down south for some action. Read the posts, get educated, and by goddamn have fun!
There are a lot of women that are interested in meeting many nice americanos, the question is if you really want to have a mexican girlfriend calling you at all hours of the night asking you to come down or helping them out. Be discreet with your phone number.
Here's a new spanish lesson:
Dejame en paz Cabrona (Thehameh ehn paz Kahbronah): Leave me alone *****!
Salud!
Geek
You give up alot of your civil rights at a border checkpoint. This has been the case since the begining of the country. You know that you will be searched and questioned with no probable cause. Where else in your life can this take place? The data mining situation does pose an interesting situation, but the other side is to look at the sheer amount of data they are going to have to sort through.
[QUOTE=Logan5]Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
Benjamin Franklin[/QUOTE]
I don't think Ben was referring to the problems of border control and immigration, problems that did not exist in his time.
When you LEAVE the USA, and then RE-ENTER the USA you have to be cleared just like anyone else and if you subject yourself to the process (by leaving the USA), you are bounds by the regulations governing re-entry.
We can't scream like hell about better border security then scream like hell when it is implemented.
Country John
[QUOTE=BillyGeek][QUOTE=Bunky]They search this database and discover that on multiple occasions over the past five years you've entered the U.S. at San Ysidro between 1:00 and 3:00 a.m. What kind of inferences will be drawn?[/QUOTE]
The Border patrol or customs usually do not know at what time you are entering into Mexico, especially if you are doing it on foot. When you cross back they will ask you how many days you were int the country and for what reasons.
~Geek[/QUOTE]
True enough for now, but the plans are to require a passport for everyone. Right now it looks like some other, simpler, type of ID will be implemented, but still required, and yes, the whole thing is grinding its way very slowly through the fed process. But eventually (my guess would be 2010) everyone will be required to present a swipeable ID to get back in, and we will all be totally traceable.
But, that's not all. The security types have always insisted that the only way to really protect against 9/11 type sneaks is to track all border EXITS in the same way. You can bet that's being studied.
Border Patrol, Customs, Homeland Security - all of these guys - have received special training on spotting bullshitters when they answer simple questions. When you give the guy a bullshit answer to the question "What were you doing in Mexico?" and he sees the corner of your mouth twitch, you could be in for a surprise.
I have an idea: tell the fucking truth. Unless your wife is there with you, tell them what you were doing in Mexico: Chasing The Girls. It just so happens that you are not the only one doing it. They know it, I tell them EVERY time I cross. They chuckle. They nod their head. They believe me. It's real.
What they think about what you do doesn't matter Their opinion is a big fat zero. Don't worry about it.
If you want something to worry about, worry that these guys won't catch a badguy with a backpack full of nastys.
Be honest with these guys. There is no reason not to.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
My buddy and I are visiting San Diego the weekend of Dec 8th and will be taking a break or two in TJ. Is the 3 AM closing of bars still in effect? That really blows if that is the case. Our usual routine is to enjoy the San Diego nightlife and then head on down for some after hours fun. I don't like the prospect of either-or. If I still lived in S. D. I probably wouldn't care but we only have 3 days. Any news on this front?
[QUOTE=Pacotaco]My buddy and I are visiting San Diego the weekend of Dec 8th and will be taking a break or two in TJ. Is the 3 AM closing of bars still in effect? That really blows if that is the case. Our usual routine is to enjoy the San Diego nightlife and then head on down for some after hours fun. I don't like the prospect of either-or. If I still lived in S. D. I probably wouldn't care but we only have 3 days. Any news on this front?[/QUOTE]Yep the 3AM closing time for the bars is still in effect.
Hi Guys,
I may have an opportunity to be in San Diego in a month or so, after not having been there for some time. When does the passport requirement to get back into the US from Tijuana go into effect? Thanks,
Bend It
look about 4 posts down
[QUOTE=Country John]Border Patrol, Customs, Homeland Security - all of these guys - have received special training on spotting bullshitters when they answer simple questions. When you give the guy a bullshit answer to the question "What were you doing in Mexico?" and he sees the corner of your mouth twitch, you could be in for a surprise.
I have an idea: tell the fucking truth. Unless your wife is there with you, tell them what you were doing in Mexico: Chasing The Girls. It just so happens that you are not the only one doing it. They know it, I tell them EVERY time I cross. They chuckle. They nod their head. They believe me. It's real.
What they think about what you do doesn't matter Their opinion is a big fat zero. Don't worry about it.
If you want something to worry about, worry that these guys won't catch a badguy with a backpack full of nastys.
Be honest with these guys. There is no reason not to.
Be safe and be nice
Country John[/QUOTE]I have been going to TJ since I was sixteen. I was down there last week and I am 73 now and look younger,I still visit the girls in the Zone and Adelitas when I go for dental etc.This report by Country John is RIGHT ON.
[QUOTE=Bend It]Hi Guys,
I may have an opportunity to be in San Diego in a month or so, after not having been there for some time. When does the passport requirement to get back into the US from Tijuana go into effect? Thanks,
Bend It[/QUOTE]Last I heard the implementation dates are:
January 1, 2007 – Passport or other accepted document required for all air and sea travel to or from Mexico and Canada.
January 1, 2008 – Passport or other accepted document required for all air, sea and land border crossings.
Was wondering if anyone went to one of these before to meet TJ escorts and support a local orphanage (looks legit)... or thinking of going this year on December 3rd?
[url]http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ers/232161074.html[/url]
Jeez. [url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html[/url]
"As early as January 1, 2008, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda by land or sea (including ferries), may be required to present a valid passport or other documents as determined by the Department of Homeland Security. While recent legislative changes permit a later deadline, the Departments of State and Homeland Security are working to meet all requirements as soon as possible. Ample advance notice will be provided to enable the public to obtain passports or passport cards for land/sea entries."
Took about 30 seconds to Google.
[QUOTE=Country John]Border Patrol, Customs, Homeland Security - all of these guys - have received special training on spotting bullshitters when they answer simple questions. When you give the guy a bullshit answer to the question "What were you doing in Mexico?" and he sees the corner of your mouth twitch, you could be in for a surprise.
I have an idea: tell the fucking truth. Unless your wife is there with you, tell them what you were doing in Mexico: Chasing The Girls. It just so happens that you are not the only one doing it. They know it, I tell them EVERY time I cross. They chuckle. They nod their head. They believe me. It's real.
What they think about what you do doesn't matter Their opinion is a big fat zero. Don't worry about it.
If you want something to worry about, worry that these guys won't catch a badguy with a backpack full of nastys.
Be honest with these guys. There is no reason not to.
Be safe and be nice
Country John[/QUOTE]
Well put. There is absolutely nothing to fear with telling the truth as to why you were visiting Mexico. If anything, it shows that you're honest and not "intimidated" by them so I think in many ways it actually sends the right message to a border guard - that you have nothing to hide. By mongering in Mexico, you haven't broken any US or Mexican laws so unless you are carrying something you shouldn't be or have outstanding arrest warrants then you will be fine. When they ask me what the purpose of my trip was, I usually reply "mainly drinking and dancing", "beer and girls" or "having sex with beatuiful women". These usually elicit a laugh from the guards and they just wave you through. I don't think they hear those answers very often, so maybe they appreciate the honesty. Don't be afraid to tell the truth - even if your border guard is a woman, she is not the morality police.
I would also hasten to add that I have seen more and more people getting hassled for just presenting a driver's license at the border. Since a DL does not denote citizenship, you can expect a few more questions. I know that the new PP law does not take effect for a while, but now might be a good time to invest in one or a new "pass card" (wallet sized federal ID card that can be used for border crossing purposes) as soon as they are available.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE]There is absolutely nothing to fear with telling the truth as to why you were visiting Mexico. [/QUOTE]While I agree with this guidance under the current state of security technology, I am concerned about how things are going to work come January 1, 2008.
One we all start crossing with "swipeable" passports, every last one of our trips will be recorded. That's a HUGE difference from the current system. Moreover, the Dept. of Homeland Security has announced they're going to create a "risk profile" for every person who crosses. While they SHOULD have better things to worry about than guys who admit to patronizing the Zona Norte, I remain concerned. Given the "Six Degrees of Separation" thinking that goes into building these databases, I can see DHS thinking that the less-glamorous parts of TJ are full of undesireables (of whatever stripe) and concluding that anybody who admits hanging out there deserves a database entry because he is possibly "linked" or "associated" with those undesireables.
I don't care if the inspectors know I'm lying. I'll never admit to chasing hookers in Tijuana when I cross.
This is a query rather than a report.
I have pretty carefully read the last six pages of this thread, and am now in a quandry. These reports about Mexican police as well as US border patrol harrassment are absolutely appalling! Now, I am not so much concerned about the US side--if the US border control officials want to shake me down and strip search me for viagra or pot, so be it (they will find neither). And I don't give a flying fuck what they think when I tell them I went to Mexico to fuck *****s--there is not a damn thing they can do about it! I have entered and re-entered the US from over sixty different countries, and am quite used to US customs bullshit, and have no fear of it, since I will be breaking no American laws, and in America (believe it or not!) we still have a modicum of constitutional protection (Patriot Act notwithstanding). But this nonsense of Mexican police routinely harrassing tourists and extorting them is absolutely outrageous! But please understand, I am no greenhorn when it comes to either international travel, or to hunting pussy. I have mongered frequently in some far-flung locales, including Costa Rica, Hong Kong/Macau, Japan, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Portugal, Russia, Dominican Republic, Brazil, and Thailand. But I have yet to encounter ANYTHING resembling the kind of nasty, outrageous, and totally unjustifiable state-sanctioned criminal activity described here--directed by police against tourists who have committed no crime other than to pump much needed American cash into their impovershed economy. And right on our very doorstep, no less!
Anyway, enough grandstanding. This is a serious post and I'm trying to decide what to do! I have a couple of free days/nights on an upcoming trip to San Diego right before Christmas. Before checking in with this board (as I almost always do before a trip to a new place) I was planning on spending those two nights in Tijuana. But now I am having trepidations. I want to have a fun time fucking chica *****s (GFE if possible!)--and I would like to be able to concentrate on the normal trials and tribulations of the pussy hunt rather than on avoiding this off-putting, and apparently potentially quite dangerous police harrassment. So here are my choices, the way I see them:
1. Cancel Tijuana altogether, and confine my mongering to the US (San Diego).
2. Stay in a hotel Tijuana for the two nights (as was my original plan).
3. Stay in a motel in San Isidro and cross over in the evening, and back to the US at the end of the night's activities (on foot).
I would be VERY grateful for some advice on which option to choose, in order to minimize the potential for a run-in with this out-of-control Mexican gestapo. I am traveling alone, since that is what I prefer. (As a well known author once opined, "Whoring is basically a solitary activity".)
Thanks in advance for any advice about this that you guys can provide!
Japan,
I have also visited many of the same places hyou mentioned and had some of the same reservations that you mentioned.
I saw plenty of cops, who appeared to be from a couple of different organizations. While I'm sure there is corruption, it don't think it is common enough to change your plans other than to exercise common sense.
Don't flash cash or valuables. Dress casual, don't advertise wealth. Keep your wits, I saw that the cops did pay much more attention to the guys who were obviously drunk.
I also stayed in areas where there were plenty of others (witnesses) around.
Have fun.
[QUOTE=Japan]So here are my choices, the way I see them:
1. Cancel Tijuana altogether, and confine my mongering to the US (San Diego).
2. Stay in a hotel Tijuana for the two nights (as was my original plan).
3. Stay in a motel in San Isidro and cross over in the evening, and back to the US at the end of the night's activities (on foot).
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[color=green]Come on, you have to go![/color]
Personally, I almost always stay the night in TJ.
Statistically, the chances of trouble are small. The most likely areas of getting stopped by Police are:
1. Walking within TJ from the border to the Zone.
This is a no-brainer, take a taxi from the border to Adelitas.
2. The taxi drop spot when crossing back at night.
Staying the night in TJ avoids this problem as well.
Other than that, you already know the basics:
A. Be aware of your surroundings.
You have no "rights" in Mexico. Know where you are going.
B. Be courteous to all.
Smiles, thank you's, and apologies can avoid or solve most problems. You know not to walk around drunk, right?
C. Dress plainly and comfortably.
Don't attract attention. Jeans and plain long-sleeve shirt recommended. Sturdy, comfortable shoes are a must for navigating the poor sidewalks and streets.
D. Carry as little as possible.
You need I.D. and only enough cash for the current task. Leave everything else in your room.
You have to visit Adelita Bar, Tropical, and Chicago Club. Needless to say, some time in the "alley" behind Adelita Bar is a must and certainly my favorite area. The alley is filled with hot girls. (It's an alley in name only, not in the American sense at all. It's a brightly lit street filled with girls and mongers.) Stop in at Hong Kong Bar to relax.
Have a great time and post a report!
Mike123, Bluescott, and One Wing Low--thanks so much for your much needed advice! You have convinced me to go! The info you provided is invaluable, and I will try to stay in a TJ hotel--the one you suggested if possible, near the action. One other question in that regard--does that hotel (or any others you can recommend) have an in-room safe? Thanks again!
This thread is slipping off topic as there is a topic to deal with this issue.
I think what it all boils down to is this:
We all know that when you cross the border you are in a different COUNTRY. The customs and way of life are different. Very different. From the viewpoint of the police, they feel it's ok to take advantage of an [b]opportunity[/b] once it is presented to them.
[u]What do you mean opportunity?[/u]
An [i]opportunity[/i] for the cops is when [u]you[/u] are being stupid. Being [i]stupid[/i] means that you ran a light, you jay-walked, you were in a place that you should not have been, you look like you fit a "profile," you have un-documented drugs, are easily intimidated etc.
[u]How can I avoid presenting the cops with an opportunity?[/u]
Simple: don't be stupid. You're going there to have sex with the girls right? OK, do you have to get falling down drunk or will a few beers do? Do you have to bring dope with you (not your wing-man, drugs)? Can you dress so you blend in instead of standing out? Are you there to make a fucking fashon statement? Do you look like you got money? Do you avoid eye contact with the cops?
Once a dirty cop spots you, your body language and your appearance will mean a great deal in his decision making. He might think you're an easy mark and he can then intimidate the dollars right out of your wallet.
If you are a tough cookie, the cops will move on to an easier mark. Being prepared with your paperwork, and not being a drunkard will be very helpful.
I could go on and on. Nobody wants me to do that especially in this thread.
Should you go to TJ? Certainly. But do your reasearch first because what you learn from this board will help you handle the cops and not be at all worried about them.
Country John
I recently found out that there are a little over 5000 'servidoras sexuales" in the TJ area. They apparently have their privates checked every two weeks by the Dept. of Health and then issued a card with which they can gain access to the many different clubs in la Zona. It's in the clubs' best interest to have clean girls present as it will ensure continued patronage from the many clients that visit. I'm not sure about the SW in the areas, though I'm sure that the ones that are mostly visible throughout the night are checked.
Another interesting fact is that many of these girls are from the surrounding areas north of the border. I once partied with one gal who said she was from Barrio Logan (about 15 minutes N from San Ysidro), but that was in Rosarito.
There's your TJ trivia for the day.
Geek
P.S. I can't source where I received this info as I was told in person by family who resides in TJ.
[QUOTE=BillyGeek]They apparently have their privates checked every two weeks by the Dept. of Health and then issued a card with which they can gain access to the many different clubs in la Zona. It's in the clubs' best interest to have clean girls present as it will ensure continued patronage from the many clients that visit. I'm not sure about the SW in the areas, though I'm sure that the ones that are mostly visible throughout the night are checked.
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Yes, the Street Girls also have the same medical checkups as the club girls. It's common for social workers to sweep the alley checking for the medical cards. Those without them are taken away and fined $40.
They used to have paper booklets with their photos and checkup dates stamped in them. Now they have plastic ID cards with a magnetic strip holding the checkup data (as I reported earlier: [post=433199]Putas Go Digital[/post]). You can also ask to see it, though some may be reluctant to have you see their real names.
A few years back, I went to the clinic with a girl. We took a taxi about ten minutes away from Centro to a residential area. The clinic was working out of a regular house turned doctor's office. I waited outside on the porch. About every five minutes another girl would arrive either on foot or by taxi. As I recall lthey get inspected every two weeks and get blood work done for STD testing once per month.
This summer, a Street Girl friend of mine was in a panic because she lost her "Tarjeta" (medical card) and said it would take 8 or 9 days to replace. We tore apart my hotel room but never did find it.
Mike
[QUOTE=Mike 123]Yes, the Street Girls also have the same medical checkups as the club girls. It's common for social workers to sweep the alley checking for the medical cards. Those without them are taken away and fined $40.
They used to have paper booklets with their photos and checkup dates stamped in them. Now they have plastic ID cards with a magnetic strip holding the checkup data (as I reported earlier: [post=433199]Putas Go Digital[/post]). You can also ask to see it, though some may be reluctant to have you see their real names.
A few years back, I went to the clinic with a girl. We took a taxi about ten minutes away from Centro to a residential area. The clinic was working out of a regular house turned doctor's office. I waited outside on the porch. About every five minutes another girl would arrive either on foot or by taxi. As I recall lthey get inspected every two weeks and get blood work done for STD testing once per month.
This summer, a Street Girl friend of mine was in a panic because she lost her "Tarjeta" (medical card) and said it would take 8 or 9 days to replace. We tore apart my hotel room but never did find it.
Mike[/QUOTE]
Mike....I thought I saw a SG who looked a lot like you, are you SURE you didn;t find her card??????
Thanks for the update. Magnetic stripped plastic ID's eh? Good move. I used to card the girls all the time for laughs just to see who'd show 'em. They are supposed to show them when you ask.
I remember seeing some duck into the hotels when they saw the inspectors coming down the alley; very funny stuff to see them emerge 30 seconds later in street clothes walking briskly away.
Country john
[QUOTE=Country John]Mike....I thought I saw a SG who looked a lot like you, [/QUOTE]
Ha! Well, that would be one ugly gordita.
Mike
Are there any self-serve photo processing machines in TJ? I mean the kind that one now finds in WalMart or Target, that accept input from a variety of digital camera media and print on demand.
Anybody know?
Mike
[QUOTE=Mike 123]Are there any self-serve photo processing machines in TJ? I mean the kind that one now finds in WalMart or Target, that accept input from a variety of digital camera media and print on demand.
Anybody know?
Mike[/QUOTE]
Are you a Costco member? I think there's one in there. There'd be one at Walmart, on Blvd Insergentes (sic).
You can also go to the Rio Plaza. I believe there are a few photo shops here that can help you out.
Country John
Mike123,
Cj is right, try Dorians at Plaza Rio. The photo dept. is near the middle of the store and they do take digital memory.
Q
Nasty cops on every corner last night stopping and searching people.
Saw a funny scene where some guy took a pic of the cops and the cops came and arrested him, threw his camera on the ground kicked into a million pieces. Also, the SENTRI cops had 3 guys spread-eagled at the taxi drop off. SHEESH!
My current advice, don't drive over, don't walk around a lot, try to travel in a group. Don't carry ANY pills, knives, mace, weapons, powders, rolling papers, etc., to give them an excuse to hassle you. You guys can argue hey there is no law against, e.g. taking pictures, carrying a Tylenol or Viagra in your pocket, but it doesn't work that way in TJ. Especially NOW as business in TJ is dead now, and the cops have nobody to pick on except YOU. It is true that with a confident attitude you can often talk them into picking on some OTHER guy, but there is no 100% guarantee. You want to spend a week in jail before you see the judge and then what? You are gonna lecture the judge on Mexican law? Better to be 100% clean, don;t give them any excuse.
I am going down to San Diego next week.
Can you still get back from TJ with just your Drivers license? If so when do the new rules take affect?
[QUOTE=Travel Addict]
You want to spend a week in jail before you see the judge and then what? You are gonna lecture the judge on Mexican law?[/QUOTE]
This is a myth that the Tijuana police perpetuate based on monger ignorance. Jueces Municipales ie municipal judges are available 24/7. The cops have to produce you forthwith. It's not like California where they have two court days ie not including weekends to arraign you. The policia tell you you'll have to wait in jail to see a judge so you'll pay a bribe.
LooksLike: Yes, you can use your driver's license. They keep pushing back the date making passports mandatory. I don't think it will ever happen.
Travel Addict: I'm not saying that the cops smashing the camera was a good thing, but the TJ cops are really paranoid about now because of all of the killings, and they don't want to get 'outed' and possibly targeted. It's not unusual, right now, to see those in law enforcement wearing masks while on duty. Anyway, that's just my guess as to why they would do such a thing.
Haven't been to TJ in years, but plan to go next Friday and Saturday. Are there any wingmen available? I was in CR recently and it was really great how gringos would help out each other down there.
Cheers.
americans accused of sex crimes in tijuana
posted: 10:25 am pst november 9, 2006
updated: 4:11 pm pst november 9, 2006
san diego -- two american men, one a san diego resident, are in a mexican jail accused of crossing the border to have sex with young boys.
images: americans charged with sex crimes in tijuana
nicholas joseph simons, 31, of san diego, and robert vann smith, 39, of georgia, were arrested friday after police stopped their minivan in tijuana. investigators said they found three mexican boys in the van, ages 9, 10 and 12. they also found allegedly sex paraphenalia and dvds containing children's shows and pornography.
investigators said the men met the boys a year ago. the children were selling trinkets to tourists on the street. the men befriended the boys and returned to tijuana several times, giving them toys and candy in exchange for sex, they added.
mexican police said the men visited the boys several times at their homes. one boy's mother is being charged with neglect, authorities said.
ernie limon, a special agent with the u.s. department of justice, said authorities are seeing more cases of sex predators from the u.s. going to mexico in search of victims.
"they're exploiting these young children who are trying to make a living for their family, and then they get caught up on these sexual assaults," limon told nbc 7/39.
simons and smith face numerous charges, including [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. they are being held at la mesa state prison outside of tijuana.
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If you want FS without all the BS of drinking or lap dancing or a show or looking for a SW and a room, here is one alternative. Just pick out a girl at Cheaters Sauna, walk down the hallway to a room, undress together, do the deed, and head back to San Diego.
To get there, go to the huge silver arch in TJ and proceed down Revolucion Ave. (toward the mountain…the Hotel Nelson, followed by the El Tigre Night Club will be on your right). Go 4 traffic lights to Flores Magon Street, which is just past all the noisy bars. You’ll see the Myster Club with a green awning just before the corner. Turn right and walk past the Temptation parking lot on your left. Three doors past the lot is Cheaters Sauna, which will likely have a man outside soliciting your business.
You’ll be shown up the stairs to a viewing room on the second floor. On a Saturday at about 7 PM there were about 12 skimpily-clad girls, who stood in a semi-circle, and I was asked to choose one. I should note that ALL the girls were slender and light-skinned, which is very unusual for Mexico. They ranged from 6 to about 9 in looks. The price was quoted as $40 for a massage and whatever you and the girl agreed on after that. I said (in Spanish, which I think helped my case) that I only had $60 and wanted FS for that. The senorita in charge said “Wait a minute” and disappeared into an office to consult. She came back and said OK, and I chose a short, very cute slim brunette 9, with tiny tits and a great smile.
There are probably 5-8 rooms down the hall. Ours was tiny, with barely enough room for a single bed. It was clean. The girl was from Sinaloa, but lives with her parents now in TJ. 22 years old, one 2 yr-old child, estranged from her husband. She was very low-keyed, had a quick laugh, was patient and accommodating. Sort of like a dutiful Asian girl, if you know what I mean. So it was a very positive session.
I highly recommend the place for a quickie. It was my second time there, and the results were similar. The return walk across the border to retrieve my car on the US side varied, however. On a weekday in August at about 4 PM, the line to walk back across the border was 2 hours, and it was quicker to pay $5 for a bus to cut the wait to 1 hour. On a Saturday in November at about 8:30 PM, there were a huge number of cars waiting and no line to walk back!
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The price was quoted as $40 for a massage and whatever you and the girl agreed on after that. I said (in Spanish, which I think helped my case) that I only had $60 and wanted FS for that. The senorita in charge said “Wait a minute” and disappeared into an office to consult. She came back and said OK, and I chose a short, very cute slim brunette 9, with tiny tits and a great smile.
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Thanks for the report. You paid $60 total or 60+40=100 total?
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Thanks for the report. You paid $60 total or 60+40=100 total?[/QUOTE]$60 total!
Has anyone used this service (tijuanagirlz)? Would like your thoughts and info if you have the time.
Thanks
Also had a good time at Cheaters MP. Damn, $60 is nice!
I paid $80 for the FS package, 1 hour. Cute girls :)
[QUOTE=DukePV]I highly recommend the place for a quickie.
I'm getting confused?
Is it 1 hour FS, or a quikie for $60 or $80?
If you can specified details, like touching here or there is extra, Bj is included?
What do you get for $80? Is it more like an alley girl kind of date?
I don't care for a lame massage, I like to get to the point, that's the part I need to know. Are the chicas hot like AB, or more like alley girls?
I appreciate if you can provide more info.
When assessing the validity of a post, I look at two things. The extent of the rave and the number of posts. Someone raving about a girl or an MP without getting very specific, just fucking ranting about how great it is, well that might be someone with an interest in the club or MP trying to drum up business by posting bullshit on a website forum like this one.
That is not the case with these posts. Cheaters is a reputable spot (although often hassled by the cops, probably because of their proximity to Revolution and 6th). Repeat customers can get great deals. People with manners can get great service, and enjoy the best that the lovely latina has to offer. OOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH jeez.
The reviews are great and experiences by other mongers have been consistently pleasing as only the latina can do it.
Country John
[QUOTE=SlutFucker]Haven't been to TJ in years, but plan to go next Friday and Saturday. Are there any wingmen available? I was in CR recently and it was really great how gringos would help out each other down there.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]I'm moving my boat from Dana Point Marina to Baja Naval in Ensenada via Chula Vista Marina this weekend SF. Looking to find a monger who would help me crew my 34ft sportfisher. Do the Zona in TJ Friday/Saturday and head to Ensenada Sunday/Monday. Each hop is about 5 hrs running. PM me if you can help. All expenses paid except the pussy. Can boink 'em on the boat at Baja Naval and save hotel expenses.
There's a lot of confusion right now over what ID is / will be required and when. I think I can clear it up for most traveller's with this post.
The DHS just published today the new requirements in the CFR (Code of Federal Register) what the new rules would be for travelling by AIR. As of January 23, 2006 (because the rule takes effect 60 days after publication in the CFR) passports will be required by all travellers BY AIR to the US, including US citizens. Remember that this is for air travel only. The rule applies to travel to the US from all countries, including Mexico and Canada.
As of today, the DHS plans on implementing the passport requirement for LAND crossings on January 1, 2008. Although congress passed a law giving DHS more time to implement this arrangement, the DHS head said they are working towards this date for implementation. One reason I can see for pushing this date back is that there is supposed to be some "pass card" the government will make available for travel within the Americas. It is like a passport only cheaper and only for travel within the western hemisphere. As of today, the government has not started to design these cards, which may make the 1/1/08 deadline unrealistic.
I think the LAND requirement will be much harder to implement and will really bog things down at the border, so I would not be suprised to see the date slip. However, as of today, that is the plan so all of us Socal TJ mongers have about a year to get ready for the land crossing changes in ID requirements. I do believe the government is serious about this one, despite the adverse effect it will have on trade and tourism. They have had every opportunity to back down but have decided to push ahead with it. My advice, for what it is worth, is to get your passport ready...
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Hornytraveler][QUOTE=DukePV]I highly recommend the place for a quickie.[/quote]I'm getting confused?
Is it 1 hour FS, or a quikie for $60 or $80?
If you can specified details, like touching here or there is extra, Bj is included?
What do you get for $80? Is it more like an alley girl kind of date?
I don't care for a lame massage, I like to get to the point, that's the part I need to know. Are the chicas hot like AB, or more like alley girls?
I appreciate if you can provide more info.[/QUOTE]The señora asked for $40 up front and "whatever you and the girl decide on". I said I wanted to pay her $60 total up front for FS, and she agreed. No time limit was mentioned...I probably spent 20 minutes. Babel13 says he got 1 hour for $80 FS. So there's no standard: it depends on your negotiation. I touched her everywhere, she touched me everywhere. She did partial CBJ before we did FS. She was not an alley girl type: pleasant service and friendly conversation (a bit of Spanish really helped). I didn't ask for or get any massage. I'm not familiar with AB, but the Cheaters girls were attractive, 6s to 9s.
i made a classic mistake before my 2 tj trips last week. since i’ve been about 15 times in the last few years i thought i knew the whole scene so i didn’t take the time to rtff before these visits. had i done so i would have known about the extra heat that’s being applied by the police and that the bars now close at 3am.
i was out on business last week in la so i flew into san diego after work on friday. i stayed on the border and spent my time in tj until sunday afternoon and then drove to my la business that lasts monday through friday. i then drove back to san diego friday night and stayed again until i had to return home on a sunday afternoon flight. by traveling half way around the country and with nothing being non-stop these days, i didn’t get across the border until about 1am that 1st weekend. after crossing i took a cab and had him drop me off at the arch, my standard spot to start my stroll. i was immediately stop and searched by the police. they asked me the standard do you have any weapons or drugs question. when they got to my money clip, which only has my id, my room key, and about $300 in small bills, they looked through it and handed it back to me. they never asked me for any type of bribe, obviously didn’t find anything illegal, and then let me go. after that i took a few laps around the track until i found a sg that appealed to me. we settled for $30 suky, fuky, sin ropa, with 2 positions and off we went. i like to start that off with a sg then move on to ab’s for a look. as you would expect it was crowded so i decided to walk over to chicago for my first of what i hoped was a few beers. i was going to relax and recharge with a couple and then pick someone for upstairs. after about 5 minutes and ¼ of my beer i heard them announce that everyone had to be out in 5 minutes. i thought i was hearing things. i asked the bartender if it was a fire drill or something stupid and he then told me of the new law. he also said that he heard they might even start closing at 2am sometime in the near future. last call in tj, wtf is that all about. damn, is las vegas and bourbon street next? the reason i like crossing the border is to get away from the restrictions of personal freedoms that are forced upon us in the states. don’t get me wrong i believe we live in the greatest country in the world but i only wish we weren’t so uptight about closing times and sex. (we can throw away the helmet laws while were at it also.) i’m sure i’m not alone in thinking this will really hurt a lot of the businesses in the area. it certainly stopped me from a couple hours of spending both on me and the girls. i walked around for awhile, ate a few tacos, had fun for $30 with another sg, and headed back across to the travel lodge. this new law has also created another problem. normally at 4:30 am, my favorite time to cross, you can march strait across without any lines. this time it took about 30 minutes.
on saturday i got over around noon. i typically walk to the downtown area during the day and always take cabs at night. after a nice experience with monica, a real beauty that stands in front of the hotel colon mostly during the day on weekends, i went to the to the new caliente on revolution to watch the ohio state michigan game. not a bad play to watch a game. it felt like being in a las vegas sports book. after i recharged in the book i went and picked another girl. this one was a little disappointing. although we were very clear on what i wanted and the price she still tried to up sell me once in the room. when she couldn’t get that on her attitude change and it showed in her service. since 90% of the girls i choice are ones i haven’t been with before because i love the variety, as you’d expect i run into a dog once in a while. i just file them in my memory bank and avoid them in the future.
i had dinner that night a la perlas. if you are leaving chicago’s heading towards abs, it’s at the end of the block and i always have a great meal there. after drinking and bouncing around for a while i finished up with one of the chicago girls. although a little more expensive, i couldn't get her down from $60, she was very pretty and a lot of fun. i made sure i hit the border just before the 3am rush.
all things considered i had a fun 1st weekend. the next one had a few more speed bumps along the way and i’ll break it down in my next, not so long winded post.
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[QUOTE=DukePV]The señora asked for $40 up front and "whatever you and the girl decide on". I said I wanted to pay her $60 total up front for FS, and she agreed. No time limit was mentioned...I probably spent 20 minutes. Babel13 says he got 1 hour for $80 FS. So there's no standard: it depends on your negotiation. I touched her everywhere, she touched me everywhere. She did partial CBJ before we did FS. She was not an alley girl type: pleasant service and friendly conversation (a bit of Spanish really helped). I didn't ask for or get any massage. I'm not familiar with AB, but the Cheaters girls were attractive, 6s to 9s.[/QUOTE]Thank you!
Much better in details.
If the girls are hot like Luxor MP is worth trying I guess?
Except Luxor is expensive, at 40 an hour and 100 for the girl!
Last time I was in TJ I was returning to the border. I got out of the cab, and was stopped by two Mexican cops standing near the stairs. One male, one female; They asked me to stop and show ID. I showed them my license an asked what the problem was. They looked at my ID, frisked my pockets from the outside, looked at each other, and let me go. I was firm, but polite. This was the only time I had an incident w/Mexico's finest in about 20 visits. I always go by myself, don't get drunk, stay in the zona, and take taxi to and from.
Looking for someone to show me the ropes in TJ tonight or tomorrow. Don't really want to go all night, just an hour or two and a few pops. Any volunteers?
Odo will be in the zone. Its always nice to meet and hang with others. I am asian 40s, with many safe trip experiences in the zone. Leave messages for odo at Hotel Del Coronado Wed or Thurs.
[QUOTE=Ath Trainer] I was firm, but polite.[/QUOTE]This says it all. Good job!
Salud!
Geek
The second leg of my west coast trip kicked off when I finished my business in LA last Friday about 6pm. After fighting the traffic down and checking into the Travel Lodge at the border in San Ysidro, I hit the Zona about 9:30pm. Not long after I started walking around and as soon as I crossed Av. Constitution onto Articulo I was approached by the police. I was questioned, searched, and let go. I wasn’t asked for a bribe but it’s still an unpleasant experience. I then headed towards the Alley and for $30 for everything, went with my first girl of the weekend. After a couple of beers and recharging a while, I started to walk around in search of # 2. As soon as I hit close to the same area I was approached again. This time I just said, you got to be kidding me, I was searched an hour ago. Who do I look like, Al Capone? The policeman, who I knew spoke English, just smiled and let me go without the search and questions.
This made 4 times in my last 3 weekends in TJ that I’ve been approached by the police. Not once in any occurrence was I asked for a bribe or really abused in any way but is that coming? Something must be up. I’m almost expecting them to plant something on me or make up some bullshit reason to make an arrest. In the 15 or so trips over the last few years before the last 4 I was never so much as looked at. I was always the guy that preached if your respectful, mind you own business, don’t get real drunk, and don’t act like a rowdy asshole, you’d never get bothered. That surely is the case anymore. I’ve always had a lot of fun when I go to TJ and a few times have even been accused of being a bit of a cheerleader for the place but they’re slowly changing my mind. The new attitudes of the police along with the new closing times are starting to make the place lose a little of its appeal.
I ended the night going from Chicago’s to AB’s. I did a few shots, drank a few beers, and finished the night with a pretty AB’s girl that went from $60 to $50. After that I took a cab back to the border all the while looking over my shoulder until I passed customs.
On a completely different subject, when Jackson 1st started offering memberships I read in its own thread, a bunch of comments about not trusting Pay Pal and asking for a way to send a money order or cash. I was also leary of paying by credit card but I've seen where cash is now possible. I am already a Sr. member and already have the ability to PM and look at photos so the membership really doesn’t add anything that I need. I sent $25 in cash yesterday anyway. With all the great information that I pick up at this site I am happy to pay something towards its maintenance. I hope a lot of others follow suit.
Be safe, Rider Jay
I was hanging out with some of our favorite Adelitas girls on their day off and they told me that the Zona and Adelitas are in the new movie BABEL with Brad Pitt. I thought yeah sure. So I took 3 of them to the nice VIP theaters at the Plaza Rio.
The Plaza Rio is a really nice shopping center a $5 cab ride from the zona OR from the border, completely safe and modern, with 200+ stores and restaurants, a food court, and with TWO big movie theaters, Cineopolis and Cineopolis VIP. The VIP theater has huge reclining leather seats, unlike anything I have seen in the USA. Between the two theaters there are at least 10 movies playing at any time, mostly in English with Spanish subtitles. Just tell the taxi PLAZA RIO. You can even look up the movie times at
[url]http://www.cinepolis.com.mx[/url]
If you get tired of the beggars cops and trash of the Zona, grab a girl and head over to the Plaza Rio some time, for dinner and a movie, you will find that not all of TJ is a shithole!
OK so we get there, buy our popcorn and find some secluded seats so the girls can play with my dick through the movie. And sure enough, halfway through the movie, some of the characters (but not Brad Pitt) cross the border, drive down Callejon Coahuila (the ALLEY) and head for a wedding in Tecate (apparently they cut the scene when they went past Adelitas and the Chicago Club).
Me and the chicas almost fell out of our seats laughing as they pointed out girls they knew on the screen ("Hey there's Maria, that fatass puta!!!!") Afterwards we went dancing and had an after-movie party. The girls were putting on a show on the dance floor of this straight disco.
It was funny dancing in the club with these 3 superhot chicks and all the other gringos were drooling and wondering how I got so "lucky" ROFL, apparently these Gringos don't know about the ZONA, and they thought they were gonna find wild mexican chicks in a DISCO. Anyway, thats my story for today, over and out.
I know it's popular to think that every cop in TJ is corrupt but the reality is that it is simply not true.
When you encounter one who wants to put the arm on you, a good approach is to look disappointed, not intimidated. In my last encounter (or second to last) I told the cop that I knew someday I would have to pay a cop to make him go away and that so many were straight up guys etc. Made him feel like shit. Maybe I was lucky.
The cops are looking for gringos or anyone else buying or possessing illegal drugs in Mexico, where it is against the law. They are also loking for gringos (especially) who stray into the most dangerous parts of TJ that happen to be close to the Zona.
Some have a tough time with that notion. But it is simply a fact.
It is also a fact that lots of guys go to TJ looking for drugs, not just prostitutes. So the cops have a job to do. When you meet one that isn't out to get into your wallet, show some respect because many are.
Country John
Look fellas I have been comming to T.J. for a long time, yea there are a lot of cops fedrales or whatever you want to call them. The fact is they have been traveling in the streets as long as I can remember, and I have been comming here since the early Sixties when I was a punk kid.
To say that there are few bad apples, probably but you will find that anywhere go.
Go out and enjoy yourself, just do not be the drunk or idiot who calls a cop an asshole and he understands what you said, you will not like the holes in there that they call a jail, you also will not like the hole they have in the ground that they call a toilet, in other words you just will not like this shithole of a jail.
Mongering, pussy hunting, G.F. hunting chica hunting can all be done, without being hassled if you know how to behave and not be intimidated.
Listen to some of the veterans that post more than I do because most of them know what is up, and know how to take the proper precautions good hunting to you all.
Can anyone provide input on how the quality of women looks at this time of year. I know that alot of the hot ones start heading home for the holidays. Has anyone seen a drop in quality? When do they usually start traveling home? My question pertains to AB as well.
I plan on visiting tomorrow from the LA metro area to bet on the games at Caliente and end up at the Zona.
Hows Chicago looking nowadays? I was there 2 months ago and there were alot of hot women.
[QUOTE=Country John]I know it's popular to think that every cop in TJ is corrupt but the reality is that it is simply not true.
I don't think they're all corrupt and I'm always respectful. Like I said I've never been asked for a thing after they find that I'm clean. It's just that after years of never being so much as looked at, now I've been approched 4 times in the last three trips. It's a little unnerving. I am always polite, never drunk and loud, always dressed nice but not flashy and, since I'm middle age and clean cut, I don't think I fit the druggy profile. I never realized however that so many grigos went over looking for drugs since they are so easily obtained right in streets at home.
I haven't complete lost intrest in TJ just noticed a change. I still have a great time when I'm there and hopefully by the next trip a little of the heat is off and the bars go back to their normal times.
Be Safe, Rider Jay
gentlemen:
as i previously posted, the government plans to create a profile for every single person who crosses the border. once rfid passports or border crossing cards are mandatory, this database will at a minimum record the date and time you cross. note well that inspectors at the border can add "notes" to your profile in the database.
granted, they are supposed to be looking for terrorists. but it worries me when the government knows that i've entered the u.s. at the san ysidro pedestrian inspection building 25 times in the past year, every time between 1:00 a.m. and 4:00 a.m. that data alone is enough for somebody to draw an adverse inference about the purpose of my trips to tj.
and what's to keep some humorless inspector from adding an unflattering note? as we know, they can easily spot a hobbyist and the zona norte is a rough place that's a magnet for some less than reputable characters. i can easily foresee them creating a database code indicating that while in mexico you "associated" with bad people, or "frequented a high crime area," or some such nonsense.
or how about the already-extant efforts to crack down on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] and **** prostitution? suppose the authorities discover an **** chica in the zona, or a girl who claims to be there against her will. i can foresee the americans concluding the zona is "linked to" or "associated with" trafficking and/or child prostitution and that anybody who is suspected of hanging out there deserves a database entry.
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aclu urges u.s. to stop
collection of traveler data
by ellen nakashima
washington post staff writer
saturday, december 2, 2006; a05
privacy advocates yesterday called on the federal government to scrap a department of homeland security data-mining program designed to create terrorism risk assessments for every traveler who enters or leaves the united states.
the automated targeting system began as a means of screening cargo but was quietly expanded in recent years to screen and create risk profiles that will be retained for 40 years, the washington post reported last month after a notice describing the system appeared in the federal register.
the government has been scrutinizing air passengers for risks for 10 years, and assessments of some land border crossers have been conducted for about two years, a customs and border protection official said in an interview thursday.
the risk profiles, which single out travelers for extra attention from customs officials, were disclosed publicly for the first time in the nov. 2 notice, raising concerns among privacy advocates.
in formal comments filed friday with the department of homeland security, of which the customs agency is a part, the aclu urged the government to abandon the program.
"how come we never heard about it before?" said barry steinhardt, director of the aclu's technology and liberty project. "the fact that they've been doing it for 10 years, under what authority?"
david sobel, senior counsel for the electronic frontier foundation, said he believes the program's existence without notice violates the 1974 privacy act. he, too, opposes the program.
"i don't see the logic of collecting massive amounts of information on millions of innocent citizens in the name of locating a small number of suspected terrorists," he said. "casting that large a net raises issues both with respect to the security benefits as well as the privacy impact of the system."
customs officials expressed exasperation with the call to abandon the program.
"how do they expect us to determine who's safe and who's at risk?" asked patrick jones, an agency spokesman. "we have over one million people coming into the country every day, and our job is to protect the american public from people who might want to harm the american public."
a separate proposal to conduct risk assessments on air passengers, called capps ii, raised so much controversy in 2004 that it was derailed, and a successor program has stalled.
jayson p. ahern, a customs and border protection assistant commissioner, said the agency intends to eventually enter data for all border crossers in the ats database. the data include name, date of birth, flight itineraries and credit card information. it also can include a customs inspector's interview notes on a traveler.
ahern said travelers are screened for risk based on "assumptions" that he would not disclose. those deemed potentially risky would be flagged for follow-up, he said. the system does not assign a numeric score or color code, he said.
"when you look at all the [risk] factors, it just kicks it out that this person is a target for follow-up," ahern said. in other words, he said, "somebody's targeted or not."
government officials asserted that creating a vast database over time on travelers -- including those who are law-abiding -- will help analysts build models of normal and suspicious behavior. ahern said 309 million land and sea border crossings and 87 million air border crossings are made each year. more than 95 percent are for lawful reasons, he said.
staff writer spencer s. hsu and staff researcher madonna lebling contributed to this
I was in TJ on Friday night and they've changed the curfew to 7am.
[QUOTE=Rider Jay]I never realized however that so many grigos went over looking for drugs since they are so easily obtained right in streets at home.
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Sorry but just because Country John says so doesn't mean it's true. He hasn't provided any evidence to support his claim. Of course he will now post that he has been told by TJ officers that many gringos go to buy drugs but I'm talking about objective evidence.
I would argue that TJ police search gringos for drugs not because they are likely to be holding but because the few who do are more willing and able to pay a bigger bribe to be let go than their mexican counterparts.
As you pointed out drugs are readily available here in the U.S. With proposition 36 and PC 1000 the consequences of being caught here with a small quantity of drugs are relatively minor ie you have to go to classes and remain clean for a certain period of time and then charges are dismissed.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Sorry but just because Country John says so doesn't mean it's true. He hasn't provided any evidence to support his claim. Of course he will now post that he has been told by TJ officers that many gringos go to buy drugs but I'm talking about objective evidence.
I would argue that TJ police search gringos for drugs not because they are likely to be holding but because the few who do are more willing and able to pay a bigger bribe to be let go than their mexican counterparts.
As you pointed out drugs are readily available here in the U.S. With proposition 36 and PC 1000 the consequences of being caught here with a small quantity of drugs are relatively minor ie you have to go to classes and remain clean for a certain period of time and then charges are dismissed.[/QUOTE]
Do me a favor Reinaldo: do a search on the work VIAGRA and tell me how many hits you get. Search "prescription drugs" and post your findings. Read the newspapers about bus-loads of seniors going South of the border to purchase drugs.
Better yet, stand in front of any farmacia on Revolution for an hour or so. Report back how many Gringos/Gringas are there loading up.
I don't post bullshit. If I do I'll call it out.
Drugs are drugs. Gringos go there to buy drugs without a prescription etc etc.
Country John
Truthfully CJ I did not think you were referring to Viagra etc. As my post implies I thought you meant weed crystal etc.
[QUOTE=Country John]Do me a favor Reinaldo: do a search
Better yet, stand in front of any farmacia on Revolution for an hour or so. Report back how many Gringos/Gringas are there loading up.
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Country John[/QUOTE]
I'm not Reinaldo but I can tell you "yes" a lot of Gringos/Gringas I have seen
hitting the Farmacia, and they're not after aspirin if you ask me!
Look guys, if you read some of my post the stuff your talking about has been going on for years, the drugs from the phamacies or the illegal as hell kind,this stuff has been happening for years and years, and probably be going on for more years the board I thought was for basically chica info.
No offense to anybody, I like the monger style, good times.
Happy hunting
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Truthfully CJ I did not think you were referring to Viagra etc. As my post implies I thought you meant weed crystal etc.[/QUOTE]
I re-read my post and I understand what you mean. Perhaps I should have included that prescription type drugs purchased in Mexico without a prescription from a Mexican doctor are considered "illegal drugs."
But when you think about it, prescription drugs purchased in the USA without a prescription from a USA doctor are also considered illegal drugs.
So illegal drugs are drugs that you have in your possession that you have no legal right to possess. That includes prescription drugs (without a prescription) or illicit drugs like weed, CM etc.
So we're both right.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]I re-read my post and I understand what you mean. Perhaps I should have included that prescription type drugs purchased in Mexico without a prescription from a Mexican doctor are considered "illegal drugs."
But when you think about it, prescription drugs purchased in the USA without a prescription from a USA doctor are also considered illegal drugs.
So illegal drugs are drugs that you have in your possession that you have no legal right to possess. That includes prescription drugs (without a prescription) or illicit drugs like weed, CM etc.
So we're both right.
Country John[/QUOTE]
I think you are both correct. As for gringos buying illegal stuff from Farmacias without a prescription, that stuff goes on all the time, and the writer of this post is one of the worst offenders! As for the illegal drugs, if you guys travel further south in Baja California, you will notice many checkpoints maintained by the Mexican military. These guys stop and interview drivers of all nationalities and colors for illegal drugs and weapons. I have had my vehicle searched very thoroughly by them (look for hollow compartments in the dash, check the tires, use mirrors to look under the vehicle, under the hood etc.) There is lots of drug activity in Mexico and there are Americans involved in it. Not a week goes by without hearing of a big bust at the border, and it often involves a US citizen hired as a "mule" to bring stuff back into the US.
I agree that TJ cops are not out for the "big game" bust - nobody is going to be walking around with a 100 pound bag of weed in la zona norte - but nobody can deny there are a lot of street drugs in the zone and they are used and abused by Americans and Mexicans alike. Cops know this and stop and search a lot of people. When they stop a gringo though, they are looking more for la mordida than anything else. Once when I was stopped, the cop seemed visibly disappointed that I wasn't carrying anything (except for the Cialis tablet that was safely dissolving in my stomach as he searched me!)
Blue Nose
13 tj cops killed this year
i was reading a tj newpaper at sanborns last night and it had a story about the rise in violence. 13 tj municipal cops have been assassinated so far this year. some of the girls were mentioning that a famously mean and corrupt cop from the zona, named santiago, had recently been shot dead.
you also have to remember, if you are on foot, and you observe a few simple rules, you have about a 98% chance of not being hassled by the cops on any given trip. then if you are stopped on foot, 98% of the cops who might search you are going to let you go anyway, if you have no car, no pills or powders of any kind, no weapons of any kind (including pocketknife), don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in public or get in a fight, and are not visibly intoxicated or scared.
i stopped driving over because recently i would estimate that your chances of being stopped, if you drive into and out of the zona at night, in a car with usa plates, you have about a 50% chance of being stopped by a squad car or roadblock. it is hard to call their bluff if they want you to leave your car on the treet in tj (never to be seen again) or towed away (big payment to the towing company).
if you must carry something strap it under your balls, lol. mexican cops are extremely afraid of being thought or called gay, and 99% of the time, they will empty your pockets, give you a cursory patdown, look very thoroughly in any bags you are carrying, and will look in your shoes and your socks, but they do not want to be seen patting you on the crotch.
once when a cop was starting to pat down my crotch and inner thighs, i started moaning and said "oooooo papi" like i liked it , and i laughed. the guy turned bright red and his cop buddies started harassing him, and they forgot all about me!
has anyone here actually been to the jail or "gone to see the judge?"
in 30 years of tj i have never heard any credible stories of tj cops planting anything on a gringo who was otherwise minding his own business. it would seem to be a legitimate fear, if they are willing to shake you down for having a viagra or a tylenol or a 3 inch knife in your pocket, why not just put some coke on you and blackmail you? but this is very rare or nonexistant in tj, i get the impression that if you give them an excuse by being drunk and belligerant, or get caught with something, especially hard drugs, they might up the charges or plant evidence, but apparently not too many are interested in framing a completely innocent guy. i am sure it has happened, but it does not seem to be a serious concern.
Pretty scary numbers, but i am ok with it all, I like you have survived our fair share of mishaps here in TJ.
But must admit 16 years ago got stopped with some fellas that worked for me and went into tj for dinner, the fellas that went with me are from mexico, and have legal papers to be in the U.S.
Comming back the guy that was driving, was told to make a right into a darkasss street, and was told that he ran a stop sign, and since he smelled of beer, he would have to go to jail. Well the guy in the camper shell in broken english says whats going on here. He was also put in the squad car, I told the officer that I was their boss and we just had dinner, He in turn told me to follow him to make arrangements at the station, and i did so and when we got there I was told that I was under arrest and the mordida was $350 american.
They searched us and went through our pockets wallets and even tried to read the little slips of papers in my wallet dumb fucks.
After they found $37 between the 3 of us and asked me If I could get more so that my fellow workers could get out, I got pissed asked to see my friend at the american council and He would loan me the money. Well of course they let us go with our $37, plus the money under my balls.
Guys at that time i did not know anybody or where any council is, just made it up.
Good luck and Good hunting
Ok, I have been stopped many times in my car for various reasons in TJ. A couple of times by the swat guys checking to see if I was a drug dealer and when I had nothing, they let me go with no problems, no fines, nada. A couple of times, I was stopped for the tint on my car and they wanted 100 to 200 bucks or impound my car. Supposedly it was too dark. I demanded to see their Seargent and so they took me to the station about 4 blocks west and 2 blocks north near the Rapido. At the station, I told the Sarg that it was not illegal where I was from, but that I would drive with my windows down and he let me off with no fine. I gave the officers who pulled me over 10 bucks each outside, just to make sure they didn't stop me later. and had no problem after that. In my opinion, sometimes it is worth going to see their superiors if it is bogus, and sometimes, if it is 20 or 30 bucks, it is worth it to just hand it to them on the road. HEY, IT'S MEXICO!!!!!!! Para mi, no es una problema, porque me gusta cojer con sus putas finas jovenes!!!! ya! jejejejeje
[QUOTE=Woohoo59]I was in TJ on Friday night and they've changed the curfew to 7am.[/QUOTE]
Really now.. What kind of curfew is 7am. Lets see. The cops come to your bar at 7am and say, sorry, the sun it up, close it down until after breakfast.
Its more likely that the curfew was removed, and the bars close when the business slows at 7am.
[QUOTE=Bad4URHeart]
Its more likely that the curfew was removed, and the bars close when the business slows at 7am.[/QUOTE]
7 am?????????
Are they serving breakfast at 7am? I can't find any other good reason to be at a bar this early, or maybe I just passed out drunk on the floor.LOL,LOL
That would only tell me that you were in the bar, and had to close up for a few hours as they used to do, or you were to damm drunk and asked you to leave more power to you.
I think that I have had my fair share of early morning adventures, about 4 yrs. ago I left El unicorno at 4:00 a.m. I was bombed and still wanted more took 2 chicas from there with no bar fine because they were closing.
Went 2 blocks to a place called chavelas, this one is 2 blocks west of rev. blvd. Anyhow went there and danced drank and be merry grag, grab, grab, seems to me a lot of the other dancers from peanuts and beer and madonnas were there also. Went back to my hotel, Hotel Zaragoza, behind the Jai ali complex and rocked and slept and so and so on.
Nice to see you posting belldude2, still lovemuff and it taste great to.
Happy Hunting and good luck
Visited around 8:30 pm 12/9. Stayed for a beer looked around 1 butch chick complete with blue jeans and plaid flannel shirt and 1 local gal in t shirt and jeans. stayed for 20 minutes while it rained.
Observation nice bar needs girls, beer was good and ok price 2.00, chica tending bar was nice looking. Will return to re evaluate.
Arrived around 9pm, they were having a 2 for 1 beer special so I settled in for a while. I watched the show, there were three girls working when I arrived. I watched each dance and the spoke with a waiter to find out their routine. He told me that you could go upstairs for a vip dance for 85 an hour, I asked him about taking the girl to a hotel and he told me that everything was available in the vip area.
So I made my choice, nice looking 21 y/o with large breasts. Upstairs we went accompanied by the waiter and a bucket of beers. After the waiter left the girl took her bikini top off and gave me a lap dance. But she kept turning away watching the other dancers then kept calling the waiter back for bottle opener and additional drinks (I did not have to pay for them). Finally I asked her about sex and she told me 100 more for her. I declined and finished the hour rubbing and squeezing those tits.
Not happy with her performance, nice club, good looking girls hopefully performance is better with the other girls.
Good hunting and lets keep the prices down.
Saturday night, I walked in around 8:30, about 5 or 6 good looking women working and a strip show to boot. I have been here several times but they never really had any decent talent. I was walking by and wanted to get out of the rain for a few minutes.
This place has cleaned up alot, and definitely attracted some better looking talent, but is still a locals bar.
I have had really good luck on my trips when I walk across and get a Taxi Libre. They will take you from the border to Adelitas for $4.00 and I usually give them a tip. Return is the same. I have in the past taken the yellow cabs but they vary in charges from $5 to $8 without tip. Also they seem to be readily available.
Police caught in cross hairs of Tijuana violence
Cartels are blamed in 12 officers' deaths
By Anna Cearley
STAFF WRITER
December 4, 2006
TIJUANA – Flower vendor Baltazar Brito was conversing with two nuns near a park just south of the city's tourist strip when a pair of trucks trapped two police cars.
He had a bad feeling, so he grabbed the nuns and pulled them to the ground behind his wooden stand. Seconds later, men with assault-style weapons started shooting at the police.
PEGGY PEATTIE / Union-Tribune
At Tijuana's Mi Chante restaurant, a waitress and a U.S. citizen were gunned down when police were fired upon in September.
The gunmen were so close that their spent bullet casings bounced off Brito's stand as the nuns prayed fervently.
The Nov. 9 shooting spared the trio, but an officer who tried to help his colleagues was wounded and died a day later. A fourth officer escaped the shooters, but was abducted and killed the next day.
Despite his close call, the 52-year-old Brito said he wasn't too worried.
“The problems aren't with me,” he said a week after the attack. “It's between them.”
Since September, Tijuana has seen a spate of abductions, gunbattles and dumped corpses.
Even so, the city would have to record more than 65 killings in December to top last year's toll of 396 homicides. Through November, the dead numbered about 328, according to the Baja California Attorney General's Office.
PEGGY PEATTIE / Union-Tribune
Assailants slightly wounded a woman and a taxi driver in an attack near Baltazar Brito's flower stand at a busy corner in Tijuana.
What makes the recent carnage stand out – creating a perception that lawlessness is rising – is who is being targeted, how they are being killed, and the threat to ordinary residents caught up in the violence.
Twelve law enforcement officers have been killed since September, prompting speculation that some of these homicides are the result of drug gangs competing over police loyalties. City officials attribute the deaths to vengeful neighborhood drug traffickers responding to crime-fighting efforts.
Two officers were ambushed and killed Tuesday. A secretary who was with them also died.
In September, at Mi Chante restaurant, a waitress and a U.S. citizen were gunned down when assailants opened fire on police. During the attack near Brito's stand, a woman and a taxi driver were slightly wounded.
Observers note that the most recent violence began after U.S. authorities arrested Francisco Arellano Félix in August. His family's cartel has dominated drug trafficking in the region for more than a decade.
Several top Arellano Félix leaders have been arrested since 2000, and it's not unusual to see violence increase immediately afterward, but this latest rash of killings has been particularly notable.
“There's a war going on,” said Victor Clark, director of the Tijuana-based Binational Center for Human Rights.
September's homicide toll came to 44, the highest monthly total this year. It's impossible to say how many of the killings are directly linked to drug trafficking.
Authorities estimate that 20 percent to 30 percent of the killings are the work of organized crime. One victim, a former state investigator, was found with his severed index finger dangling from a crude wire necklace. A note labeled him a “dedo,” or “finger,” slang for a snitch.
Acknowledging the instability, Baja California's state congress voted last month to request that a military general take charge of the array of law enforcement agencies in the region. The idea hasn't been embraced by state law enforcement authorities.
Meanwhile, a state advisory committee on public security tapped into public concern by leading an unprecedented 16-day march against violence in October and November.
Drug-trafficking experts note that in the world of organized crime, a certain amount of violence is inevitable, and that has kept the city's monthly homicide rate ranging from 20 to 57 in recent years.
The most notable wave of violence was in the mid-1990s when the Arellanos were consolidating their power, linking up with some police groups and creating a culture of silence by gunning down reform-minded officers.
The violence spiked again in late 1999 and early 2000. That's when a rival cartel, believed to be headed by Ismael Zambada García, attempted to supplant the Arellanos by recruiting city police officers to its side and going on a killing spree until some members of Zambada's group were arrested.
At that time, the official explanation for why the city's police chief, Alfredo de la Torre Márquez, was gunned down was that he had refused a bribe from Zambada's group. De la Torre's possible connection to the Arellanos was never acknowledged by Mexican authorities, although U.S. officials privately told the Union-Tribune that was the case.
Clark said his sources tell him some of the current problems stem from shifts among the approximately 20 Arellano cells in Tijuana. They are operating more independently, he said.
In the past, according to Clark, the cartel was more vertically structured. Arrangements with police recruited to aid the cartel were done through a designated Arellano liaison. Now there is confusion about who to deal with.
Complicating matters, Zambada's group and other rival cartels are said to be offering money to police, further splintering loyalties within police agencies.
The situation has had an effect on local drug traffickers.
A person involved in moving drugs into the United States, who asked not to be named because of the potential repercussions, said it's common to get a visit – and demand for payment – from an Arellano representative for being allowed to operate in Tijuana. The gang has an extensive spy network.
Arellano confederates typically don't identify themselves, but it's generally assumed who they are. Now, the trafficker said, there's uncertainty. “You don't know if you are doing business with someone who is an enemy” of the Arellanos, he said.
Though insiders say the Arellanos are still the dominant group in Tijuana, an eventual shift in the power base isn't unimaginable. In 2004, Mexican federal authorities announced that a longtime suspected Arellano gang member, Gilberto Higuera Guerrero, now in custody, had apparently switched sides to work with Zambada's drug group in Mexicali.
Meanwhile, the power of drug groups has created a parallel universe in which citizens, inured to the impact of shootouts and dumped bodies, have formed a curious set of references.
When Tijuana's mayor, Jorge Hank Rhon, was asked by a Mexican television reporter about the crime problem shortly after the attack near Brito's stand, Hank replied: “We have had four or five days of peace.”
People want things to change, Brito said, but they are scared, and that fear hampers authorities in their quest to go after criminals.
“The federal attorney general said that if he had a magic wand then things would change,” Brito said. “And then they ask the community to help by saying 'here's a phone number, and if you see anything bad, you call and we will go' . . . even though it's a known fact that if someone calls, there will be repercussions.”
Maybe you'd prefer "Happy Holidays," or something else but for me it's Christmas time. A big tree, gifts, fellowship, sex and all that good stuff.
I get moist around this time of the year when I reflect on how many good brothers are not with us any more. I've had several close people pass away this year and I'm a long way from home.
I always ask people to take a moment and realize how fortunate they are to be here still, so do that OK?
Rumor has it that the Zona will be active over the holidays, with girls working up to Christmas eve. It would not surprise me to see a few girls working Christmas day. I might do a drive-by and check things out.
Be careful out there. Watch out for drunk drivers, live through the season. I'll be headed back to TJ for the holidays and I get a much better sense of the season in Mexico than I do State-side. Good for the soul.
Merry Christmas Jackson. Thanks for all you do. And to all you mongers out there, be safe and be nice.
Country John
Either it is rare or rarely reported--
How many of you can report a threesome with two chicas?
I plan to visit TJ mid-January '07 and two chicas in one session would do me well.
Please share your threesome experience.
Stunk
How is the fun on New Years? It's been reported on other TJ boards that the Zona is dead on New Years. This could be mis-direction by other mongers to keep all the fun to themselves :). What's the truth boys?
[QUOTE=Stunkhead]Either it is rare or rarely reported--
How many of you can report a threesome with two chicas?
I plan to visit TJ mid-January '07 and two chicas in one session would do me well.
Please share your threesome experience.
Stunk[/QUOTE]I've done it a couple of times with chicas from AB. The price was 100 for both, (The room was double?)but unfortunately they didn't play with each other. I was too happy to go up with two that I didn't discuss details. Good luck to you and if you spend enough time I'm sure you'll find some willing to go for that price.
[QUOTE=Zona Monger]How is the fun on New Years? It's been reported on other TJ boards that the Zona is dead on New Years. This could be mis-direction by other mongers to keep all the fun to themselves :). What's the truth boys?[/QUOTE]
It's no lie. It's normally dead. 95% of the working chicas in TJ come from some other part of Mexico. They, like many Christians in this country like to be home for that Christmas holiday with their families. Factor that in with the cold weather, and it leaves a zona at less than 50%.
If you are diligent, and not extremely picky, you can still have a good time, but remember that selection will be way, way down from normal. Expect things to start picking up good again around mid February.
Fellow mongers,
I'll be arriving at the San Diego airport Tuesday & plan to spend a few days in TJ. I remember taking a public bus from the airport to connect with a tram/train (by a Starbucks) to get to the border. It has been a couple years & I forgot the precise bus number & tram/train numbers. Any help will be tremendously appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Take bus 992 from the airport to the downtown station and transfer to the blue line trolley to go to the border. If you need further info, you can check with the information desk in the baggage claim/ground transportation area in the airport terminal. I think they have maps and schedules there. The MTS transit system also has a website at sdcommute.com. This is a very economical way to travel while in the SD area. Enjoy your stay.
[QUOTE=BowHuntMopar]Fellow mongers,
I forgot the precise bus number & tram/train numbers. [/QUOTE]
Bus:
[url]http://www.sdcommute.com/Rider_Information/routes/992.asp[/url]
Trolley:
[url]http://www.sdcommute.com/Rider_Information/trolley/trolleymap.asp[/url]
Thanks Ho Lover & Etaoin2003!!! I really appreciate it.
I was in San Diego for a few days beginning with Wednesday December 13th through Sunday, December 17, 2006. On the first day, I arrived about 6PM in San Diego airport. I took the bus and then the trolley down to the San Ysidro depot.
The first objective was getting a hotel for the night. Because I didn't have a rental car and I had two suitcases, I decided the easiest thing was to stay on the American side. I have been to TJ many times and have stayed on both the American and Mexican sides. For the first time, I tried staying at the hotel right near the trolley station. This is the place that advertises 24 hour parking. I was quoted a price of $55 for the night. The hotel did not take credit cards. Thankfully I had enough cash. However, I will never stay in this place again. The door to the room barely locked. The TV only had an antenna and only picked up Spanish stations. The place was very unclean. The next monrning, I moved down to my favorite San Ysidro hotel. I have stayed at the Flamingo Motel many times. It is less than a half mile walk to the border and is only $40 per night. The owner has always treated me well and accepts credit cards. Even though it is a little extra walking, it seems to be the best deal in the neighborhood.
My first night in TJ was decent. I rode the Mexicoach into town. I noticed that they have increased the price to $5 one way. When I got into town, I still needed to walk to the Zona. From now on, I will just walk accross the border and catch a cab directly to the Zona. When I got there, Adelitas was busy for a Wednesday. I got good treatment from a hot chica for $40 plus $12 for the room and $5 tip. This took some negotiating and patience, but was worth it. I received good treatment with CBJ and three positions.
My second eveing in TJ, I just wanted to relax. I spent a few hours eating in restaurants and seeing the sights. I went to the Zona and enjoyed the company of a SG. The price was $20 + $5 for the hotel. It was pretty good for the price, although it lasted only 20 minutes.
On the third day, I had the entire day to enjoy Mexico so I went to Rosarito. The price from Mexicoach is $9 one way or $16 round trip. I only buy the one way because they have failed to send a return bus before. Anyway, I didn't enjoy Rosarito as much as I used to. Prices have gone up considerably. I had lunch at Senor Frogs. I asked about drink specials and was told that Corona was on special. After having lunch and two Coronas, I was informed that happy hour hadn't started yet and the each beer was $3. I can deal with a few small pains, but I have noticed during the last two trips to Rosarito, that many bars and restaurants are now including a 10% sales tax. I really bet that the government gets the money. One other bar charged $7 for a margarita. Granted they used better quality ingredients but I still think the prices have gotten out of hand. I caught the Mexicoach bus for the ride back to Tijuana. I was the only passenger on the return trip. The driver offered me a deal that he would drop me off two blocks before returning to the terminal. In exchange, I would not need to buy a ticket but just give him a $5 tip. The $4 savings sounded like a bargain to me.
After arriving back in TJ, I really wasn't in the mood to visit the Zona and decided to take an evening off. I walked around TJ enjoying some food and a few drinks. Because the streets were fairly busy, I made the stupid mistake of deciding to walk back the US. There were several Americans walking near me. As we passed over the bridge of the TJ river, a police officer stopped an American at random and began searching him and his girlfriend. For a moment I was thankful that it wasn't me. However, as I came up near where the line would start I did encounter a problem. This is the area where taxi drivers normally drop off passengers heading back to the US. Two TJ cops came over to me and began questioning me about why I was there. I told them I was just having dinner and that I wasn't there to cause any trouble. Anyway, the two cops began searching me. They took my wallet and started going through it. Unfortunately, I had brought enough money in case I wanted to go the Zona. I had $90 in my wallet. The only thing the cops found was a Rolaid in my pocket. I explained that this was for heartburn and was not illegal. The cops told me that I needed a prescription for it and that I was under arrest. I knew that it was time for a bribe. Iasked how much the fine was going to be. The cops told me $50. They wanted the $50 bill that I had with me. They told me the fine would be $80 if I had to be taken to headquarters. I asked them if I could just pay $40 and reminded them that I had done nothing wrong. The cops then began accusing me of being a drug dealer, etc. I tried to argue with the cops as to my innoncence, but one cop got out a pair of handcuffs and motioned that he was ready to use them. Reluctantly, I handed them the $50 and walked away. As I walked away, I heard them start doing the same thing to another American heading back to the US. This incident took place about 11:45 PM that night. My guess is that the cops were looking for their Christmas bonus.
After the Friday night incident, I decided not to return to TJ the next day. It sounds like everyone is looking for money. It irritates me to think that the money taken from me by the TJ cop would have been spent in their local economy the next day. Not only are the cops taking away business from local establishments, but they are destroying the tourist business. This is the second time in the last five trips that I was unfairly targeted by the TJ cops. I have decided that with the rising prices and other problems, I will not be returing for the next couple of years. I usually come to town twice each year. They have lost me as a frequent customer. Although it is a much longer (and more expensive flight) I will be taking my business to Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic. This is a shame because I do like spending time at the beach in SD and then having fun in the evenings in TJ.
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Tax Man,
Being innocent, the cops would have let you go for free if you had politely refused to pay and requested to see a judge.
They would rather move on to their next target than waste time taking you somewhere.
Why doesn't anyone take the damn bus back to the border?
[QUOTE=Num Nutz]Why doesn't anyone take the damn bus back to the border?[/QUOTE]
That was also my question.. But thinking about it, I think the answer is that the bus stops working around 9 pm... If true, that does not help much for those going at night, which is in any case the time when the cops are the most active.
But I agree, when I go during the day, I take the bus...
Have not been to TJ in (2) years. Back then, none of the working girls or the locals knew where St. Louis was. Now they all know because St. Louis won the WORLD SERIES!!!
Still, St. Louis is a $hithole compared to San Diego & all it has to offer.
In addition, I vacationed in Thailand this summer. Hate to say this but Thailand girls beat TJ girls hands down in both quantity (300,000 girls in Pattaya Beach alone) as well as quality. Before making the TL trip, I thought this was the best place other than Amsterdam.
Suggest all you dedicated mongers vacation over there. There are over 40,000 retired mongers from Britain living over there permanently. Lots of retired US military guys also.
Do the SGs work for someone, or can they make their own deals for TLN?
[QUOTE=Muff Eater]Do the SGs work for someone, or can they make their own deals for TLN?[/QUOTE]
Most street girls have boyfriends, husbands or handlers that they answer to and/or watch over them as they work. They can make a unilateral decision to TLN but the numbers are ususally much higher than you might be willing to pay. I was once quoted $500. for a TLN with my fav SG, I guess I was not one of her favorite clients.
TLN's mean different things to different girls. For a bar girl, a TLN usually starts when she finishes her shift and ends at sunrise. If she's off at 3AM, then you get 4 hours or so. Most guys are surprised at this, but you have to suck it up and pay the girl anyway.
KNow what you want when you make the deal. A TLN starting at 10PM and lasting all night to sunrise will be expensive. Ask the girl how much for a TLN, then ask her when you can meet her (to get a feel for the shift) and what time she expects to go home.
Walkers on the other hand are a bit more liberal on TLNs, but they are bit riskier.
Country John
[QUOTE=Num Nutz]Why doesn't anyone take the damn bus back to the border?[/QUOTE]Tell us how.
[QUOTE=Guy #2]Tell us how.[/QUOTE]
Buses leave from the Mexicoach terminal on Revolucion between 6th and 7th. They use the far right lane and drop you off beyond the point where the police extort tourists. However as another poster pointed out they only run til 9PM and Tijuana's finest usually aren't a problem at that hour. Tonight I walked over the pedestrian bridge just after 8PM and there were no officers in sight.
[QUOTE=Muff Eater]Do the SGs work for someone, or can they make their own deals for TLN?[/QUOTE]
I know several street girls well. Based on my experiences, I think the odds of getting a street girl who doesn't already know you to spend the night with you is extremely unlikely.
Why?
1. Most view their work as a job with set hours and have no interest in spending the night with you.
2. Many have boyfriends or spouses that won't allow it.
3. Generally, street girls are much more conservative/religious than bar girls. Although you may think of them as below bar girls, the street girls usually look down on bar girls as crazy and out of control. They view spending the night with a stranger as dangerous.
4. On the outside chance that they quote you a crazy high price (like $300) and you accept it, I think that it's unlikely that they would actually spend the night with you. So, certainly don't pay in advance. They'll find some compelling reason or "emergency" that requires them to leave.
I have found with myself that my own unrealistic goals lead to a feeling of disappointment when in TJ. Setting realistic goals is the key to an enjoyable trip. For example, how about the following scenario?
To warm up, cruise the alley and find a cutie for $20 or $25. Afterwards, go to Bar Tropical and do some dollar dances with four or five different girls. Repeat dances with those that tickle your fancy. Avoid buying drinks for the girls, but enjoy a couple of beers yourself. Head over to Chavelas and repeat the same. This time if one of the girls passes the squeeze test ask them to go to the room for $40. Head over to Hong Kong and spend a couple hours relaxing and watching the show. Decide ahead of time that you are there to relax and buy no lady drinks. Just enjoy the show. After this find another street girl and ask her for a double session for $30 or $40. Choose someone whose language skills match your own and spend a bit of time getting to know them. Get a good night's sleep, wake extra early and bang two more cute street girls. Then back to the hotel for a nap and afterwards head home with a smile.
Just my thoughts. Best wishes for a great trip.
[QUOTE=Mike 123]I know several street girls well. Based on my experiences, I think the odds of getting a street girl who doesn't already know you to spend the night with you is extremely unlikely.
Why?
1. Most view their work as a job with set hours and have no interest in spending the night with you.
2. Many have boyfriends or spouses that won't allow it.
3. Generally, street girls are much more conservative/religious than bar girls. Although you may think of them as below bar girls, the street girls usually look down on bar girls as crazy and out of control. They view spending the night with a stranger as dangerous.
4. On the outside chance that they quote you a crazy high price (like $300) and you accept it, I think that it's unlikely that they would actually spend the night with you. So, certainly don't pay in advance. They'll find some compelling reason or "emergency" that requires them to leave.
I have found with myself that my own unrealistic goals lead to a feeling of disappointment when in TJ. [/QUOTE]
One of the most insightful posts about sg's I've ever seen on any board.
Thanks for the insight! I guess I gotta find the right one. I was with a nice young petite SG the other night and asked her the same question. She quoted me $20 for 20. I asked her how much for an hour, she said $100. The math didn't seem right, so I asked her again and she said maybe $80. So I asked her for 3 hours and she said $500. So I said okay, let's try 20 first. After the deed, we were laying in bed and I asked her how come it was so much for more time, since 3 20 minute sessions should be $60. She said that when someone gets them for more time, they have to work more, do more things and positions and it's harder for their bodies. Kinda made sense since we men have super vitamins that keep our batteries charged. And she said that maybe next time I see her, I could probably get a better price.
ME
[QUOTE=Mike 123]I know several street girls well. Based on my experiences, I think the odds of getting a street girl who doesn't already know you to spend the night with you is extremely unlikely.
Why?
1. Most view their work as a job with set hours and have no interest in spending the night with you.
2. Many have boyfriends or spouses that won't allow it.
3. Generally, street girls are much more conservative/religious than bar girls. Although you may think of them as below bar girls, the street girls usually look down on bar girls as crazy and out of control. They view spending the night with a stranger as dangerous.
4. On the outside chance that they quote you a crazy high price (like $300) and you accept it, I think that it's unlikely that they would actually spend the night with you. So, certainly don't pay in advance. They'll find some compelling reason or "emergency" that requires them to leave.
I have found with myself that my own unrealistic goals lead to a feeling of disappointment when in TJ. Setting realistic goals is the key to an enjoyable trip. For example, how about the following scenario?
To warm up, cruise the alley and find a cutie for $20 or $25. Afterwards, go to Bar Tropical and do some dollar dances with four or five different girls. Repeat dances with those that tickle your fancy. Avoid buying drinks for the girls, but enjoy a couple of beers yourself. Head over to Chavelas and repeat the same. This time if one of the girls passes the squeeze test ask them to go to the room for $40. Head over to Hong Kong and spend a couple hours relaxing and watching the show. Decide ahead of time that you are there to relax and buy no lady drinks. Just enjoy the show. After this find another street girl and ask her for a double session for $30 or $40. Choose someone whose language skills match your own and spend a bit of time getting to know them. Get a good night's sleep, wake extra early and bang two more cute street girls. Then back to the hotel for a nap and afterwards head home with a smile.
Just my thoughts. Best wishes for a great trip.[/QUOTE]
I guess this being the holiday season, there weren't many girls to choose from. I'd say that about 2/3rds of the SG's are gone and only Adelita's had a decent crowd to chose from, although there were a lot less desireable women than I remember. I'll be heading back in February so there should be a few more to choose from.
ME
Strolled the alley with my girley Saturday night and stopped into Adelitas for a few beers. Yes, it was like a ghost town. Adelitas was slow (at about 9PM) but I know it probably got real hot by about 10 or 11. The place was starting to get busy when we left.
As far as the girls go, there were maybe 2 or 3 that I found really attractive and would probably have taken if I were not there with the girl, but I'm retired now anyway. Average arriba time was 31 minutes from floor to floor. Average time from first squeeze to arriba was 5 minutes, so it's all "business as usual."
Stopped into Rio Verde for a look, not much happening there either. Adela said that she now knows no-body there. Lots of fresh faces and young girls. It's really easy to tell the pros from the noobies.
Lots of cops out. I passed three groups of cops int he Zona, none hassled mne at all. In fact, one even wished me a happy new year. I must have an innocent face. Adela says they are assholes.
Los of girls are home for the holidays but they'll be back starting around the 15th or so. Many hold out for the plane ticket from the club. The clubs want the girls back, fast, so they'll pay the airfare if the girl is a performer like Salma de HK has been for so many years.
Anyway, happy new year to you all. Happy and safe mongering. Be nice to the girls.
Country John
Took a stroll through AB around Midnight.
WOW, never seen so many fatties in there. I only saw 3 flacas. AB was horrible.
[QUOTE=Muff Eater] She said that when someone gets them for more time, they have to work more, do more things and positions and it's harder for their bodies. [/QUOTE]
That's B.S!
Don't buy that , they just want more dough from you, they will give you the same lousy service, and leave you with an empty wallet.
"WORK MORE" I can't stop laughing, you're not going to get better service by paying more, most alley girls are dead cold fish, and they don't care in giving good performace they want you in and out fast.
Let's keep the prices down for everyone, just think with your main head and save.
Good luck.......
Things were down in Costa Rica as well. Xmas day was the worst.
Ghost town.
Went to ABs yesterday. All I saw were a couple of tumbleweeds and a bunch of fat chicks. Won't be going till February.
The new regime flexed it's muscle in TJ today. I wonder if it'll have any effect on the annoying, unprovoked searches [for bribes].
Here's most of the article:
TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - Hundreds of soldiers and federal police descended on the border city of Tijuana on Wednesday to probe corruption by local police and open a new front in President Felipe Calderon's war on drug violence.
As two helicopters circled overhead, dozens of troops with assault rifles and riot shields converged on a police headquarters to inspect weapons, a first step in probing alleged drug gang links and corruption inside the local force.
Calderon ordered a 3,300-strong special force to Tijuana and the first 500 arrived on Wednesday. The offensive came three weeks after Calderon sent 7,000 troops to his crime-ridden home state of Michoacan to kick off a new war on drug-related violence that killed some 2,000 people in 2006.
"We are determined to regain security, not just in Michoacan or Baja California, but in every part of Mexico that is threatened by organized crime," Calderon said on Wednesday, visiting troops in Michoacan, in western Mexico.
Calderon took office on December 1.
Tijuana, just south of San Diego and one of the busiest border crossings into the United States, sees a murder almost every day and two kidnappings a week, most blamed on brutal rivalries between drug cartels.
Thanks for this helpful report.
Far from a Very Important Person, I'm interested in VIP treatment while in TJ. I'll be there for less than two days and I'd like to maximize my experience. Hopefully all the chicas will be back by Jan 15. Where can a fellow monger go for special VIP experiences?
[QUOTE=Redhat]Arrived around 9pm, they were having a 2 for 1 beer special so I settled in for a while. I watched the show, there were three girls working when I arrived. I watched each dance and the spoke with a waiter to find out their routine. He told me that you could go upstairs for a vip dance for 85 an hour, I asked him about taking the girl to a hotel and he told me that everything was available in the vip area.
So I made my choice, nice looking 21 y/o with large breasts. Upstairs we went accompanied by the waiter and a bucket of beers. After the waiter left the girl took her bikini top off and gave me a lap dance. But she kept turning away watching the other dancers then kept calling the waiter back for bottle opener and additional drinks (I did not have to pay for them). Finally I asked her about sex and she told me 100 more for her. I declined and finished the hour rubbing and squeezing those tits.
Not happy with her performance, nice club, good looking girls hopefully performance is better with the other girls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Stunkhead]Thanks for this helpful report.
Far from a Very Important Person, I'm interested in VIP treatment while in TJ. I'll be there for less than two days and I'd like to maximize my experience. Hopefully all the chicas will be back by Jan 15. Where can a fellow monger go for special VIP experiences?[/QUOTE]
I am not at all involved in the escort business - I have no time and I would probably fuck it up anyway.
But if you are looking for a SPECIAL VIP service session then that is the way to go. There are only two services in TJ. Never go to a private provider and NEVER go to a Caseta or Casita. You might wake up dead.
You might get something that approximates special VIP in one or more of the clubs, but that's a different story and usually involves more money. If you want an excellent private session, go escort. PM me if you'd like to know more and I'll get back to you, time permitting.
Remember: I am NOT in the escort business. But I have a cupple buds who are and they got their act together. I've referred a few members already but I've not had or seen any feedback.
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
Will be heading you way in a couple of weeks. Where would the best spot be to look for a big assed beauty who speaks greek. Last Time I was there maybe 5 years ago I stayed at AB, is this still reccomonded?
Thanks for all the great info!
James
the military and federales have confirep001ed all the weapons from tjpd and the force has walked off the job in protest, saying they will not patrol without weapons. i believe they plan to do ballistics tests to check if any of the weapons were involved in murders etc. (bright of me eh?)
this means that tj is being patroled by the military and the feds so this is no time to play games with drinking and driving, drugs or other mis-adventures.
if you are coming into tj with a vehicle, get insurance and make sure your paperwork is in order. take your viagra in the store before you leave. be smart. don;t be stooopid. this is no time to let your guard down.
you have been warned.
country john
Chicago Club has just raised its ladies' drink prices from $6 to $8. Customer drinks have been raised from $3 to $4.
Adelita Bar is still at $7.50/$3.50.
[QUOTE=Conejito]Chicago Club has just raised its ladies' drink prices from $6 to $8. Customer drinks have been raised from $3 to $4.
Adelita Bar is still at $7.50/$3.50.[/QUOTE]
Sheesh....
I guess if mongers are willing to pay, they'll keep running the price up.
Here is the link to the story on TJPD.
[url]http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20070105-9999-1n5tjcrime.html[/url]
Country John
Hi Folks,
First of all thanks for all the valuable information in your your reports, which made it possible for me to venture down south and enjoy my experience.
I flew down to San Diego airport on the 3rd and took the 992 BUS to the Santa Fe Depot and then on to the Blue Line Trolley to San Ysidro / Tijuana and within an hour I was crossing the border. I got to the border at 6:30pm and took the Taxi Libre to Adelitas. AB was pretty dead at this time, but there were still about 5 or 6 hotties. Relaxed had a couple of beers and then strolled on over to HK. HK had no good looking girls, just some fugly chicks trying to do their thing on the stage. Not finding any thing I like I head out to the alley. There were a few SGs, few young ones and the rest your average Latinas.
I went back to AB and one hottie caught my eye, I forget her name it was something like vanessa or tessa or something. I invited her for a drink, she said 60 I countered with 50 and she promised a lot of stuff downstairs, but when we get upstairs, she was like no sucking on the tits, no kissing and this and that and just plain vanilla CBJ, then mish and then doggie and I pop in about 20 minutes and she heads out the door. This was really assembly line sex and from what I read before, the hotter ones don't need to please their clientele as the homely ones and that was demonstrated in her attitude. Although it was sort of a trophy fuck, I was still not happy with it. Headed downstairs and there were some chicks dancing but it was still pretty much slow around 11pm, after another beer decided I will try Chicago.
Chicago was also pretty slow, and their talent was not that great, but I was looking for somewhat of an ordinary girl that will give me a GFE. Met Sonia who was 24 and was about 5'3 and was pretty average looking. had 2 drinks with her and got a good vibe from her as she was all over me and kissing and stroking and allowing me to fondle her. I was hungry and asked her to join me for some tacos next door and we go have some tacos all the while she is telling all that she will do to me. Around 1:30 we head upstairs and since I wanted to catch some sleep, I ask for the room for all night. It was 35 for the room. She is really nice in the room, we kiss and cuddle and fondle and she gives me a great massage and does BBBJ for about 5 mins and then puts on condom and rides me passionately and I come after about 25 minutes. I pay her $60 + $10 tip for her performance. Now she says that Chicago closes at 3 and she doesn't want to drive and if I like she can come back and spend the night with me, I am thinking this is somewhat of a scam and I say yes I will think about it. I go to sleep about 2:15 and there is a knock on my door at 3:30 its Sonia and she is back. She says, she just wants to sleep the night over and comes in.
There's no talk about money and right away she jumps in to bed and gives me a BBBJ and then rides me with the condom on and we go to sleep after I am done. I tell her that I will be up at 10am and I wanted one more session with her and she agrees. We go at it again at 10 and I shower and leave a $20 tip for her.
I take a Taxi back to the border, there is a long line, but I was across in about an hour. Had breakfast at the MCD's and took the trolley back to Santa Fe Depot and then onto the 992 bus and I am at the Airport by 1pm.
All in all a very good session especially because of Sonia at Chicago.
Sorry for the long TR, but wanted to give you a complete synopsis in case any body else wanted to take the same route, including the bus and trolley and all.
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[QUOTE=Country John]Sheesh....
I guess if mongers are willing to pay, they'll keep running the price up.
Country John[/QUOTE]
I don't understand how these people run a buisiness?
This club is always dead, raising the drink prices is not going to bring more customers, what they really need to do is fix this place up and bring some more prime USDA meat. LOL
Thanks CJ for the help. I'll probably skip VIP deals and be a price cautious. This forum has enlightened me and I don’t plan to overpay (in order to keep general prices down). If you’re around during the afternoon of Jan 17 or the evening of Jan 18, I’ll buy you a beer. I'll be traveling to TJ from a great distance and I'm sure we'll have more experiences to share. PM me and let me know.
On another subject, I’ve found steamy pics posted by mongers traveling in Brazil, Thailand, and other obscure places in this forum’s photo gallery and I hope to contribute with pics from my trip to TJ. I understand some won’t allow their picture taken for various reasons and I risk losing an expensive camera, but what’s your experience on this subject? Would you recommend it?
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I don't understand how these people run a buisiness?
This club is always dead, raising the drink prices is not going to bring more customers, what they really need to do is fix this place up and bring some more prime USDA meat. LOL[/QUOTE]
CC is known for it's "dead time." It's always been dead during the day and early evening and during the week. The money is in weekend work etc.
Also you need to remember that they don't give a shit about you, me or any other monger. They see enough traffic at the place to warrant taking the risk and they also know that it's just a matter of time until the crowd comes back. The key is for mongers to take it upon themselves to stay away from the clubs that are ripping them off. That won't happen though. Mongers go back. $8 for a ficha eh? Jeez.
My girley and I were in Adelitas last weekend and I was paying $3.50 for our beer, I wouldn't want to be paying those high fichas. Just go in, ask the girl to go, then leave.
Country John
San Diego paper has a story saying the cops have returned to duty, without guns, and that the federales continue to be overseeing the city, and that turistas didn't even notice. Hell maybe it's even better than before.
[quote=etaoin2003]san diego paper has a story saying the cops have returned to duty, without guns, and that the federales continue to be overseeing the city, and that turistas didn't even notice. hell maybe it's even better than before.[/quote]
spent all day yesterday and most of the evening downtown and in the zona. i agree, people are very relaxed and i sense they like this arrangement, the toothless tiger that was tjpd. people i talked to are happy the cops don;t have their guns. there were a definite drop in presence, i drove freely without problems and the zona was a without problems.
my girl and i visited several clubs (ab, tropical etc) and had a few, watching the dancers and havinga few laughs. the guys in ab must have thought i was nuts. i had my hands all over her and the girls were going crazy watching me stuff 200p notes doen my girlys bra. (i got them all back later :d ). when she went to the br several girls were wanting to take her place :lol: .
later, on revo, there were planty gringos/gringas but sttll few cops. the ones that were out were sin weapons.
people are behaving themselves much more than i expect4ed they would. i had a feeling that there would be respect for the new arrangement and as short lived as it might bocome people seem to be interested in keeping it and not fucking it up. then again, who wants to fuck with the military.
my understanding is that the federales that were posted at tjpd are not working right now and had their weapons confirep001ed also. we got a whole new gang of guys out there.
for the ones that are working, let me say that i have a lot of respect for a guy or girl who will suit up and patrol a place like tj sin weapons. that, my friends, takes balls. if they encounter you and are decent, show some respect because they just might be one of the "good guys."
country john
most recent: tjpd ordered to return to work but without weapons. read the story here: [url]http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20070106-9999-1n6tjcrime.html[/url]
1. If you stay more than 72 hours dont you need a visa?
2.. If I do decide to stay on the US side do you think going back and forth twice a day for the duration of five days will be an issue with US customs? It never was in the past I just dont know how things are these days.
**** I never quite understood the public drunkeness rule. My eyes get bloodshot red after two beers but I dont stumble around. Ive only been stopped once in TJ and I deserved it. The cops came into a strip club that I was in while I was standing up tipping a girl...not keeping a low enough profile. I guess they saw it as I refused to notice their presence.
There is no way for them to tell when you made entry. You do not have to show your passport upon entry. On the way out they will swipe your passport and a date and time will be recorded. IMO if your gonna make 2 trips a day you might as well stay in la zona.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]1. If you stay more than 72 hours dont you need a visa?
[/quote]
You should have a "tourist visa" (FMT) when you enter Mexico. This is one of those "selective enforcement issues." but technically it's wise to have one. They are valid for 90 days and cost $20.00.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]
2.. If I do decide to stay on the US side do you think going back and forth twice a day for the duration of five days will be an issue with US customs? It never was in the past I just dont know how things are these days.
[/quote]
No, it will not be a problem. Just make sure your paperwork is in order. With themilitary running the show in TJ's these days, be very sure your paperwork is in order. I bought a new visa the other day. Just to have my paperwork complete. Do not fuck with Mexican military.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]**** I never quite understood the public drunkeness rule. My eyes get bloodshot red after two beers but I dont stumble around. Ive only been stopped once in TJ and I deserved it. The cops came into a strip club that I was in while I was standing up tipping a girl...not keeping a low enough profile. I guess they saw it as I refused to notice their presence.[/QUOTE]
Public drunkeness is the same as State-side. Don't be falling down drunk in public.
Country John
I understand what you say about having your paperwork in order but I doubt "daytrippers" going to TJ get a visa. Maybe Im wrong but I guess I can check it out once Im there . I have a valid passport and will bring my birth certificate . Yes/No
The other thing worth mentioning is all the TJ hotels minus the $100 and over deals have gotten really lame reviews from travelers so Ill probably stay at travel lodge on the US side. Ive stayed there before and it was nice.
The good nite inn in chula vista used to be my place after 9/11 but those guys are charging $60/$75 for a crack den eventhough its only one block from the trolley and next to my favorite restaurant " El Torito ". I used to get it for $40 a night. America is such a rip off.
Thanks for the tips .
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I understand what you say about having your paperwork in order but I doubt "daytrippers" going to TJ get a visa. Maybe Im wrong but I guess I can check it out once Im there . I have a valid passport and will bring my birth certificate . Yes/No
The other thing worth mentioning is all the TJ hotels minus the $100 and over deals have gotten really lame reviews from travelers so Ill probably stay at travel lodge on the US side. Ive stayed there before and it was nice.
The good nite inn in chula vista used to be my place after 9/11 but those guys are charging $60/$75 for a crack den eventhough its only one block from the trolley and next to my favorite restaurant " El Torito ". I used to get it for $40 a night. America is such a rip off.
Thanks for the tips .[/QUOTE]
Hi. You don't need to bring your birth certificate if you have a passport, if you're staying for the afternoon then forget the visa, it is not required.
The Zona hotels are utility facilities there for your use and convenience, not your comfort. Comfort is the very last thing on their minds. If you don't mind staying State-side then I would do that instead of staying in the Zona. Border hotels know why you are there and they are taking advantage. Some are members of this and other boards, so they know what you are about. They don't give a shit either because if you don't show, someone else will be there to take your place.
Relax, have a good time and bang lots of chicas.
Country John
As you all should know tuesday is the day American Airlines comes out with specials. They are offering a web deal for $179 RT from jfk. Ive never seen it get that low before even during the 9/11 era.
No visa needed. Technically you needa tourist card if you go past Maneadero (90 minutes South of TJ) or stay more than 3 days but if you stay in TJ nobody will EVER know if you have been there 3 days or 30. I would not worry about it.
Motel 6, while in a worse location about 3/4 of a mile West across the freeway, is quiter than travelodge (where I used to regularly stay) and of same caliber. TL has a design defect that makes LOUD noise whenever somebody in room above you or next to you turns on the water.
TL used to be $49 Sun-Thur but now they want like $80. Motel 6 is under $50 even on weekends so you save money by staying there and taxiiing it (during daytime it is a nice walk past the outlet stores) . Book in advance on weekends or, failing that, get there early.
I always stay on US side.
BEWARE the LENGTHY WAITS crossing back into the US as a ped. It was NEVER LIKE THIS overr the many years I have been going there. Late at night is not bad but in the afternoons it is HIDEOUS (Sunday is off the chart). Last few trips were so bad it really put a damper on my enthusiasm for TJ visits. There are often only 3 lanes open and a bunch of guys standing around doing nothing (emulating their neighbors to the South).
I always rent a car so I am thinking of driving to Otay Mesa border crossing and then just paying for parking in a garage in TJ.
i drive (and live half the week) in tj, i bring my own car but i have amigos that rent etc. there are a few rules for happy living if you drive your own or a rental in mexico.
rule number one - buy mexican insurance
you are held to account for your responsibility at the time of the accident. you'd better have a method to square things up if you cause an accident. either in the form of readily available cash or insurance written by a mexican insurance company.
rule number two
make sure your rental contract permits you to take the car to mexico. hertz allows it and some others will if it's written into the contract but never drive an illegal rental in mexico. make sure your have mexican insurance on the rental.
rule number three
never park in an unsecured area or on the street. your car and/or your stuff might not be there when you get back, even in daylight. always park in a secured lot. there are many of them in tj, there are several in the zona.
rule number four
traffic laws are strictly enforced against vehicles bearing usa plates. obey all traffic laws, signs and speed limits. you will have a problem if you are caught, forget the 1000 or so cars that ran the sign before you.
rule number four a
pedestrians have the right of way, even against a red light. you can't run 'em over because you had the green. stop before the limit line or if there is none, where it would normally be (and you know where that is, right?).
rule number four b
right hand turns from the left hand lane and left hand turns from the far right hand lane are common in tj, watch the guys next to you very carefully. a lot of drivers in tj actually are brain dead. protect yourself at all times. go when you are clear to go.
rule number five
do not drink and drive. it is not tolerated and i believe it is classed as a criminal offense. (citation needed). tjpd does not have a sense of humor on that one.
country john
Will be in TJ in two weeks. Do I need a passport to get back to U.S., or is my drivers license good enough to cross home? Will be going to AD and the alley. Thanks for the current reports. My trips down are getting farther and farther apart.
[QUOTE=Country John]You should have a "tourist visa" (FMT) when you enter Mexico. This is one of those "selective enforcement issues." but technically it's wise to have one. They are valid for 90 days and cost $20.00.
Country John[/QUOTE
Actually, the tourist visa is good for 180 days, and costs $22.50.
I got mine today.
[QUOTE=Roguesta][QUOTE=Country John]You should have a "tourist visa" (FMT) when you enter Mexico. This is one of those "selective enforcement issues." but technically it's wise to have one. They are valid for 90 days and cost $20.00.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Actually, the tourist visa is good for 180 days, and costs $22.50.
I got mine today.[/QUOTE]
That would be correct. You can enter for "business purposes" and that is good for 90 days.
Country John
[QUOTE=Surfer]
BEWARE the LENGTHY WAITS crossing back into the US as a ped. It was NEVER LIKE THIS overr the many years I have been going there. Late at night is not bad but in the afternoons it is HIDEOUS (Sunday is off the chart). Last few trips were so bad it really put a damper on my enthusiasm for TJ visits. There are often only 3 lanes open and a bunch of guys standing around doing nothing (emulating their neighbors to the South).
[/QUOTE]
I was there last year, I rented a bike for $7 and was able to cut the line. Can you still do this?
Hi,
No, you can't cut in line if you have a bike anymore. The Mexican don't even rent bike out to people anymore. I guess if you have a bike you are required to dismount and walk across.
Remember, the San Ysidro border crossing is the busiest border crossing in the world.
When I'm faced with the busiest anything in the world, I'm ready for a nice long wait.
I always drive back and the wait actually seems to be getting shorter. Maybe I'm just getting used to it.
Country John
[QUOTE=Roguesta][QUOTE=Country John]You should have a "tourist visa" (FMT) when you enter Mexico. This is one of those "selective enforcement issues." but technically it's wise to have one. They are valid for 90 days and cost $20.00.
Country John[/QUOTE
Actually, the tourist visa is good for 180 days, and costs $22.50.
I got mine today.[/QUOTE]
I see you guys talking about visa’s and saying it’s not required. Are passports required yet? I have never used a passport or visa going to TJ and have been going 15+ years. Is it now required? or is going to be required soon? And if so when does this new law kick in?
[QUOTE=FlapJacK]
I see you guys talking about visa’s and saying it’s not required. Are passports required yet? I have never used a passport or visa going to TJ and have been going 15+ years. Is it now required? or is going to be required soon? And if so when does this new law kick in?[/QUOTE]
Hi Flapjack.
You don't need a passport or a visa to enter Mexico at the San Ysidro Border crossing but you will need a passport to return Stateside soon. If you don;t have a passport, it's a good idea to get going on it. As for now, your drivers license or birth certificate should be ok. Check with the homeland security website for the kick-in dates for passport requirements.
If you travel deep into Mexico you'll need to have a visa, but as for the zona, the only passport you need is your wallet.
I used to have all the dates locked in my memory but beer and latinas tend to make you forget.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]Hi Flapjack.
You don't need a passport or a visa to enter Mexico at the San Ysidro Border crossing but you will need a passport to return Stateside soon. If you don;t have a passport, it's a good idea to get going on it. As for now, your drivers license or birth certificate should be ok. Check with the homeland security website for the kick-in dates for passport requirements.
If you travel deep into Mexico you'll need to have a visa, but as for the zona, the only passport you need is your wallet.
I used to have all the dates locked in my memory but beer and latinas tend to make you forget.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Found this on U.S. Department of Homeland Security web site.
New Travel Document Requirements
For Citizens of the United States, Canada, Mexico, and Bermuda
Beginning January 23, 2007, citizens of the United States, Canada, Mexico, and Bermuda will be required to present a passport to enter the United States when arriving by air from any part of the Western Hemisphere
[QUOTE=Kimbrough]Hi,
No, you can't cut in line if you have a bike anymore. The Mexican don't even rent bike out to people anymore. I guess if you have a bike you are required to dismount and walk across.[/QUOTE]
That sucks, it saved alot of time. Just pay for the bike and ride or walk by all the people on line.
It would save me around 1-1:30.
If I saw the line that long again, I would just go back for another round at AB.
What Pharmacy in TJ sells Cialis cheaper than $13.50 ?
Most Farmacias at the border crossing are charging 13- 13.50.
One pharmacy offered me Cialis from a big jar without the package for $10
but I did not trust it, they could be fake sugar pills, or some other shit.
[QUOTE=Country John]Hi Flapjack.
You don't need a passport or a visa to enter Mexico at the San Ysidro Border crossing but you will need a passport to return Stateside soon. If you don;t have a passport, it's a good idea to get going on it. As for now, your drivers license or birth certificate should be ok. Check with the homeland security website for the kick-in dates for passport requirements.
If you travel deep into Mexico you'll need to have a visa, but as for the zona, the only passport you need is your wallet.
I used to have all the dates locked in my memory but beer and latinas tend to make you forget.
Country John[/QUOTE]
If you are crossing into the US by AIR, you will need a passport starting January 23, 2007. If you are crossing by land or by sea (including ferries) then the passport requirement does not kick in until January 1, 2008. This is according to the DHS website.
Those of us who cross at San Ysidro still have some time but it's best to get these things taken care of early.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]What Pharmacy in TJ sells Cialis cheaper than $13.50 ?
Most Farmacias at the border crossing are charging 13- 13.50.
One pharmacy offered me Cialis from a big jar without the package for $10
but I did not trust it, they could be fake sugar pills, or some other shit.[/QUOTE]
Best price I've ever had for Cialis is about $12. You can get this price at the first farmacia along farmacia alley as you walk across (blue and white sign). The pharmacies along farmacia alley have the best prices - avoid the ones on Revolucion.
When the guy offered to sell you a tablet outside the blister pack, he was actually taking a larger count bottle and breaking it down himself (in order to make more money). This is why he could afford to sell for $10. Most medicine is dispensed this way (think of all the time they put meds in the standard amber bottle for people), but I agree with you that it is much easier to fake. Unless you know or trust the guy, I would go with the blister-packed tablet and pay the extra $3.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]Best price I've ever had for Cialis is about $12. You can get this price at the first farmacia along farmacia alley as you walk across (blue and white sign). The pharmacies along farmacia alley have the best prices - avoid the ones on Revolucion.
When the guy offered to sell you a tablet outside the blister pack, he was actually taking a larger count bottle and breaking it down himself (in order to make more money). This is why he could afford to sell for $10. Most medicine is dispensed this way (think of all the time they put meds in the standard amber bottle for people), but I agree with you that it is much easier to fake. Unless you know or trust the guy, I would go with the blister-packed tablet and pay the extra $3.
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
How you doing BN?
I just knew you were going to reply my post, glad to see you reply!
If you mean the big farmacia as you walk across the street right on the corner which is the largest one on that street where Mc Donalds is?
let me tell you they always charged me $13.50, I might look too much like a tourist. LOL
I never buy anything on the zona farmacias, always overpriced.
I also want to mention the 20mg pill is for a horse LOL, I get a bunch of side efects after a few minutes of taking the pill, it makes me feel drugy, hot and I get dizziness, half of pill works more natural for me and I don't have to be hard for 24/7 LOL, how are you dealing with the Vitamin C ?
Hey Horny,
The cheapest Cialis can be found in the pharmacy right behind McDonalds in an alley. Walk towards the pedestrian bridge away from the yellow cabs towards the Zona Arc Dont know the name of the pharmacy but it's right next to a liquor store. There is a kiosk of tourist trinkets right in front of it. They have consistently sold me cialis at $10/pill this past entire year. They know I am a gringo and they do not increase the prices. They come in their original bubble wrap. I believe viagra is cheaper there as well. I prefer Cialis - 20 mg. I bring it back and pound the chicas like a race horse out here in Cali.
[QUOTE=Pico1972]Hey Horny,
The cheapest Cialis can be found in the pharmacy right behind McDonalds in an alley. Walk towards the pedestrian bridge away from the yellow cabs towards the Zona Arc Dont know the name of the pharmacy but it's right next to a liquor store. There is a kiosk of tourist trinkets right in front of it. They have consistently sold me cialis at $10/pill this past entire year. They know I am a gringo and they do not increase the prices. They come in their original bubble wrap. I believe viagra is cheaper there as well. I prefer Cialis - 20 mg. I bring it back and pound the chicas like a race horse out here in Cali.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Pico,
I know the one you're talking about, I'll try it next time $10/pill is a great deal
if it comes in the small box.
Is always a good idea to check the expiration date on the package when you buy any medicine in TJ, They don't throw it away , they just wait for the next sucker to sell it!
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]How you doing BN?
I just knew you were going to reply my post, glad to see you reply!
If you mean the big farmacia as you walk across the street right on the corner which is the largest one on that street where Mc Donalds is?
let me tell you they always charged me $13.50, I might look too much like a tourist. LOL
I never buy anything on the zona farmacias, always overpriced.
I also want to mention the 20mg pill is for a horse LOL, I get a bunch of side efects after a few minutes of taking the pill, it makes me feel drugy, hot and I get dizziness, half of pill works more natural for me and I don't have to be hard for 24/7 LOL, how are you dealing with the Vitamin C ?[/QUOTE]
HornyT,
Nice to hear from you. Yes, that was the farmacia that I was referring to, and you may be right about the $13.50 for an individual tablet. I haven't purchased any there for quite a while (I ordered a whole bunch of generic Cialis tablets from India a while ago, so I am just using those). When I was purchasing there, I was buying 4 at a time, and I believe that entitled me to a small discount. At any rate, that was about the best price I ever saw in TJ.
In terms of side effects, a lot of guys get headaches. What I recommend, if you take the entire 20mg at once, is to take 2 Tylenol tablets either with the vitamin C or shortly before you take it. This should help with the headache. As well, don't drink too much cerveza while you are taking it. Splitting the tablet into two halves and either only taking 10mg or taking the two halves a few hours apart should also mitigate some of the side effects. Remember not to take this or any ED medicine without talking to a doctor first if you have high blood pressure, heart problems or glaucoma.
Blue Nose
What does the scene in TJ look like right now? Busy? Slow?
How about walking across the border? What is the wait time?
Replies with reports are appreciated.
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]HornyT,
Nice to hear from you. Yes, that was the farmacia that I was referring to, and you may be right about the $13.50 for an individual tablet. I haven't purchased any there for quite a while (I ordered a whole bunch of generic Cialis tablets from India a while ago, so I am just using those). When I was purchasing there, I was buying 4 at a time, and I believe that entitled me to a small discount. At any rate, that was about the best price I ever saw in TJ.
In terms of side effects, a lot of guys get headaches. What I recommend, if you take the entire 20mg at once, is to take 2 Tylenol tablets either with the vitamin C or shortly before you take it. This should help with the headache. As well, don't drink too much cerveza while you are taking it. Splitting the tablet into two halves and either only taking 10mg or taking the two halves a few hours apart should also mitigate some of the side effects. Remember not to take this or any ED medicine without talking to a doctor first if you have high blood pressure, heart problems or glaucoma.
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
Hi BN,
Let me tell you this drug can be scary sometimes, I once took a C, and went to take care of business, and after I checked my face in the mirror, thought I was gonna get a stroke or something!
My eyes were red with bloody veins on the white of the eyes, first think came to my mind, that It was related to high blood pressure, but I was feeling OK, only a temporary efect of the drug I guess, and 911 in the zona
can be a long time waiting for medical help I guess, or maybe not? I've never seen an ambulance in the zona, so if you have an emergency just drag your ass to a taxi and go to the nearest hospital.
Anyway 1/2 of tablet works better on me, without the headaches,
I don't understand is if this drug raises or drops the blood pressure?I read somewhere that C, lowers your BP?
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I don't understand is if this drug raises or drops the blood pressure?I read somewhere that C, lowers your BP?[/QUOTE]If taken with certain heart medications (nitrates) it can cause an unsafe DROP in BP. Same is true for vitamin V.
I tried some generic C from the net for about $3-$4 bucks a 20mg tab. I take half and it works like a charm. Sent me 4 free V's with the order. Tried it, don't like the headaches and it doesn't last as long as C's. I guess this is why they are giving them away.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Hi BN,
Let me tell you this drug can be scary sometimes, I once took a C, and went to take care of business, and after I checked my face in the mirror, thought I was gonna get a stroke or something!
My eyes were red with bloody veins on the white of the eyes, first think came to my mind, that It was related to high blood pressure, but I was feeling OK, only a temporary efect of the drug I guess, and 911 in the zona
can be a long time waiting for medical help I guess, or maybe not? I've never seen an ambulance in the zona, so if you have an emergency just drag your ass to a taxi and go to the nearest hospital.
Anyway 1/2 of tablet works better on me, without the headaches,
I don't understand is if this drug raises or drops the blood pressure?I read somewhere that C, lowers your BP?[/QUOTE]
This was taken from the cialis web site. I don't know which is worse, the side effects or the disease.
I've seen many ambulances in the Zona. All too often, guys die upstairs doing the glam slam. So be careful. KNow your body. Talk to your doctor. Don't risk a ride to the Tijuana morgue.
Side effects:
Like all medications, CIALIS may have some side effects. The most common side effects with CIALIS are headache, upset stomach, back pain, and muscle aches. These side effects usually go away after a few hours. Patients who get back pain and muscle aches usually get it 12 to 24 hours after taking CIALIS. Back pain and muscle aches usually go away by themselves within 48 hours. Call your doctor or other healthcare professional if side effects continue to bother you.
As with any ED tablet, in the rare event of priapism (an erection lasting more than four hours), seek immediate medical help to avoid long-term injury.
In rare instances, men taking prescription ED tablets (including CIALIS) reported a sudden decrease or loss of vision. It's not possible to determine if these events are related directly to the ED tablets or to other factors. If you have a sudden decrease or loss of vision, stop taking any ED tablet and call your doctor right away.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]
I've seen many ambulances in the Zona. All too often, guys die upstairs doing the glam slam. So be careful. KNow your body. Talk to your doctor. Don't risk a ride to the Tijuana morgue.
Country John[/QUOTE]
CJ,
Guys dying having sex are the old grandpas in their 60-80s age,
Sorry for some of you people, but you need to know you limitations,
I've seen very old men in AB older than the TITANIC. LOL
Just find another hobby like playing bingo or bird feeding :>) :>)
again sorry, but it's funny shit!
Well, if I had to pick a way to go...
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]CJ,
Guys dying having sex are the old grandpas in their 60-80s age,
Sorry for some of you people, but you need to know you limitations,
I've seen very old men in AB older than the TITANIC. LOL
Just find another hobby like playing bingo or bird feeding :>) :>)
again sorry, but it's funny shit![/QUOTE]
Sheesh!
In a few years I'll be one of those "old grandpa" types. And sooner than you think, you'll be one too! And I can't think of a better way to go. The last thing I want to see before I time-out is that beautiful full pink panocha my Maya Princessa carries around for me.
60 happens to be the "new 50" and 50 happens to be the "new 30." So some of old farts are not as old as you young fellers think. And I remember what my mamma used to say:"The older the bull, the stiffer the horn."
Be safe and be nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John] And I remember what my mamma used to say:"The older the bull, the stiffer the horn."
Country John[/QUOTE]
Nowadays, this translates to: "The stiffer the horn, the bigger the pill"
[QUOTE=Country John]Sheesh!
In a few years I'll be one of those "old grandpa" types. And sooner than you think, you'll be one too! And I can't think of a better way to go. The last thing I want to see before I time-out is that beautiful full pink panocha my Maya Princessa carries around for me.
60 happens to be the "new 50" and 50 happens to be the "new 30." So some of old farts are not as old as you young fellers think. And I remember what my mamma used to say:"The older the bull, the stiffer the horn."
Be safe and be nice
Country John[/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong!
is nothing wrong been old you just have to remember that you can feel young
like in your 20s, but when you push more than normal with the xtra C, it might leave the bull horns upside down, and that might scare your Maya Princessa :>)
AB front door sign said: no one under 18 or above 55 :>)
[QUOTE=Member #2041]Nowadays, this translates to: "The stiffer the horn, the bigger the pill"[/QUOTE]
LOL, I'll pass that one on to mamma.
I swear to God, I never took a C or V pill in my life. No need. My girley gives me the best porn style monkey fuck I ever had and she does it every day and night I'm there. I'm averaging 7 pops over 4 days and 3 nights besides running around town taking care of business. There is nothing this girl will not do, bless her heart. She's a REAL latina Maya babe who takes real pride in pleasing her man. A real Gem.
When we strut Revo the barkers outside the farmacia eyeball me after looking at her and they gang up on me trying to sell Viagra. I tell them that SHE is my Viagra.
She once told me that when I can't get it up she'll still get me off. What a gal eh? Find something like that State-side. Not only that, she's probably the funniest girl I know, so I got quite a package on my hands.
When the girl has the stuff (like most latinas do and hardly ANY gringas do) then that's when getting excited can kill. But what a way to go......
Country John
Yes that's quite a warm and loving relationship you have going there, but a little truth in advertising now and then might not hurt either. Here's a quote from another board by Mr. Romantic himself. Country John :
"She was a hooker (ficha girl according to her). She no longer works in the club and hated every minute there. She is very fearful that she might have to return if I dump her. I pay her a fee to be my domestic engineer in my house in Tijuana." Country John.
See, there are two sides to everything. The other moral to the story is be careful what you write on the internet cause it might come back to bite you in the ass.
[QUOTE=Queer Juan]Yes that's quite a warm and loving relationship you have going there, but a little truth in advertising now and then might not hurt either. Here's a quote from another board by Mr. Romantic himself. Country John :
"She was a hooker (ficha girl according to her). She no longer works in the club and hated every minute there. She is very fearful that she might have to return if I dump her. I pay her a fee to be my domestic engineer in my house in Tijuana." Country John.
See, there are two sides to everything. The other moral to the story is be careful what you write on the internet cause it might come back to bite you in the ass.[/QUOTE]Hilarious, just hilarious. Let me guess - KOS?
Well did a few nights in TJ this week. The winter is definietly slower than the spring summer. Quality/Qty way down versus June when I was here.
Popped a Street Girl first night. Blow-up doll nightmare. Why even bother???
I was about to give up on TJ all together but decided one more try. Went down next night and got 2 great pulls. One from Tropical - one from CC. Both great attitueds and great performance. Went through a few drinks with girls with bad vibes. It is worth the 7 bucks to screen them.
Last night tried to keep it going. Got a cute Tropical girl who spoke no English. She undresses and lays on bed. Worse than Street Giirl. I should have put my clothes on and left. I mean this girl just starfished like I have never seen. Grudge fu__ her best I could and left. Chicas like this should not be working.
So you can find the good performers in TJ. It takes luck and good screening. Adelitas girls looked all big time production oriented. Worse than June. I live on the East and no trade shows in San Diego for a couple years so thats it for TJ for me for a few years. I can see why the CA guys burn out on TJ with the starfish pulls- pisses you off!!! But it is worth it if you land the good ones.
in response to queer juan weather cj writes about the help he has or some nice chica as his novia more power to him, me being one of those old mongers, take my hat off to you.
as far as being to old, the hell with that stuff the rev, zona and the rest of tj still the monger and still the banger, the hell with cialis, full speed ahead.
been in jail got arrested there, all just for having fun, and being young and dumb, the older i got the better it got because the getting was getting easier to get.
guys i do not care how old anybody is enjoy enjoy enjoy, find it where you can.
good hunting
[QUOTE=Queer Juan]Yes that's quite a warm and loving relationship you have going there, but a little truth in advertising now and then might not hurt either. Here's a quote from another board by Mr. Romantic himself. Country John :
"She was a hooker (ficha girl according to her). She no longer works in the club and hated every minute there. She is very fearful that she might have to return if I dump her. I pay her a fee to be my domestic engineer in my house in Tijuana." Country John.
See, there are two sides to everything. The other moral to the story is be careful what you write on the internet cause it might come back to bite you in the ass.[/QUOTE]
It would have been a good idea for you to date the above post entry.
I never lie in my posts Queer Juan. I have no fears that anything I write would be "coming back to bite me in the ass."
You're a bright guy and should know that relationships are dynamic. They evolve with time. Some go bad, some don't. I made no secret of who she was and I was quite forth-coming in my posts about my progress with her. If you were sincere in your research, you'd already know that is true.
My most recent post about my girley is also very true and I stand behind every word. So far she's turned out to be a good companion and a bright light in my life. That's saying a lot for a chica that used to be a "hooker." But one must never let one's guard down, must one?
Mongers share one thing in common with the nastiest of hookers: we're people. You don't fuck a hooker, you fuck a person. Hooker is what they do, it's not who they are. Even you Queer Juan, are a person. Even our friend the "King Of Sluts" is a person.
So if you're going to dragnet the site searching out contracdictory statements made by me in past posts, save your valuable time for more important endeavors like writing trip reports. Judging from the number and kinds of posts under your handle since 09/ 2003, you've contributed little to this board, that is except to criticize others.
Firedsup, I couldn't agree more. Bang till you just can't bang no more. I still suggest that everyone check with their doctor before taking V or C.
Be safe and Be Nice
Country John
I think it's important to show how a person really thinks especially if that person can't or won't.
Here's another gem form the recent past by Mr. Sensitive. This one dated 12/01/06. I'm not making this stuff up, it's all documented, I just think it's funny when juxtaposed with all the chest beating.
"But here's the deal: she needs to keep creating her life within my universe if she wants to stick around." COUNTRY JOHN.
She needs to keep creating her life within YOUR UNIVERSE if she wants to stick around? I had to write it again,I can't believe what I'm reading. I can't get my arms around the pomposity of it all. LOL.
Maybe you can explain this to us Mr. Wonderful?
After a 3,000 mile red-eye hop-skip-jump, room service and a shower, one business meeting, and a pinch of homegrown, it was finally time to run for the border.
40-min Blue Line trolley ride for $5.
Arrival to border: 6:10 pm.
10-min Taxi ride to AB for $5. About 25 chicas made a 3 to 1 f/m ratio, but this turned over within hours. By 10 pm the real hotties arrived with their full-sized Ts & As. It dawned on me I’ve been looking forward to this moment for months. It was bittersweet though since most of these fuck factory chicas sent chilly vibes. So I wandered the Alley and enjoyed cat calls from the many SWs; one of which I found attractive, Ruby, but I passed.
New York, Mermaids, Tropical, and Miami were DOA. Too early. Several 7s & 8s at HK but the lighting was so poor I chose to return to AB and revive my buzz.
A trophy was in mind and Karla at AB, with her 5’11” frame, big tits, and blonde hair fit the bill. She proposed $60 and I countered with $50 plus $20 if she let me tape it. Regrettably, I paid upfront, lost all negotiation leverage, and managed only one lousy still pic. I’ll post it next month when I return home. A good CBJ but the sex was on training wheels. She held the condom, refused to let go, complained about me caressing her tits and refused to ride me. Quickly, I finished and moved on. YMMV, but I’d avoid her.
Tacos were delicious on the street. As I gorged myself, Ruby reemerged. Her 22-year-old body was fine and appearance decent. After alcohol, she was a 6 and the only SW I’d consider. Ruby proposed $20 and I offered $30 if she let me tape it. Again, no, so we settled for $20 and $5 for the room. The damn room had no faucet. CBJ was good but I was limp from her cold hands and lack of enthusiasm. For fun I proposed Greek and she called me loco. I just couldn’t keep it up so I split, thanked her, and said the experience was no good.
Back on the street I met Johnny. He offered hook-ups for yayo, crystal, etc., but I declined. I offered him a shot of Patron at Mermaids for conversational purposes. Later he scored me mota for $1 and we parted ways.
Back at AB I found Monica, an easy 10 with dark hair, but when you see her face she’s just under a 9. Her perfectly round bubble-butt and tits separated her from the rest. Monica's first words to me proposed arriba for $60. Before I had a chance to answer she walked away. She meandered a bit, returned, and I propositioned her, but she repeatedly refused all offers. Oh well.
There was only one way I could go home with a smile-- two chicas arriba. I had $22 for the room, $5 for a taxi to the border, and remaining amount somewhere under $100 was for them. I forget their names but they said they were sisters. Both 7s with bold-ons. Very good CBJ, doggie, and then mish with the second one. I was drunk by this time and loved every single second of it. Washed clean.
Returned to the boarder by 1:30 am. $45 taxi to downtown hotel (I knew I’d pass out in the trolley and I needed to get to bed). I will repeat only threesomes tomorrow, no SWs. What's your story?
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I plan on making my 1st trip to TJ in the next month or two. A few quick questions I have, couldn't find anything in any of the TJ guides.
1. How much should a taxi from the airport to near the border cost?
2. Any cheap hotels that are decent near the border? (USA side)
3. What the best hotels to stay in TJ, price I want to spend is less then 60.
4. Anyone wants free drinks? I'll down to find some people to chill with while im down there.
[QUOTE=Stunkhead]
40-min Blue Line trolley ride for $5.
Returned to the boarder by 1:30 am. $45 taxi to downtown hotel (I knew I’d pass out in the trolley and I needed to get to bed). I will repeat only threesomes tomorrow, no SWs. What's your story?
[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the TR. Regarding the trolley:the one
way fare is a lot less than $5 so I guess you purchased a round trip ticket which you didn't end up using?
The only time you can take the trolley at 1:30 AM is Sat night/Sun morning. On the other nights service stops earlier.
Queer Juan is psychoanalyzing Country John? Wooo I say stick to the TOPIC and thats the 'Ladies".
I personally don't want a Queer John hanging out at the house, nor do I want to make assesments of Country Johns arrangement with any person.
I may be "junior' but I ain't stoopid
[QUOTE=Queer Juan]I think it's important to show how a person really thinks especially if that person can't or won't.
Here's another gem form the recent past by Mr. Sensitive. This one dated 12/01/06. I'm not making this stuff up, it's all documented, I just think it's funny when juxtaposed with all the chest beating.
"But here's the deal: she needs to keep creating her life within my universe if she wants to stick around." COUNTRY JOHN.
She needs to keep creating her life within YOUR UNIVERSE if she wants to stick around? I had to write it again,I can't believe what I'm reading. I can't get my arms around the pomposity of it all. LOL.
Maybe you can explain this to us Mr. Wonderful?[/QUOTE]
I would be delighted to explain. Apparently you are the only one who doesn't get it so let me attempt to help you out, perhaps turn a few lights on in that otherwise dimly lit space between your ears.
Apparently your confusion lies in the word "create," "creative," "creating" etc.
and that's not hard to understand given your choices here.
When a person "creates" in their life, they construct ways to survive. They develope their own paths in their life, their own interests and things to keep them occupied, productive, creative and hopefully happy. It can be said that a person exists within a universe that they "create." Are you with me so far? Good.
If you become responsible for "creating" (I know, there's that word again) someone else's universe for them, because they cannot or will not do it themself then that could become burdensome and frustrating, especially if you've tried to do it in the past and failed. These elements could make the relationship uninteresting or undesireable over time.
Your choice is to do that ("create") or not to do that. You can make that choice at any time but it's a good idea to do that in the beginning rather than to give up on the process after a number of years. Now let's get back to what I wrote and see if we can clear that up for you shall we?
"But here's the deal: she needs to keep creating her life within my universe if she wants to stick around." COUNTRY JOHN.
If the girl wants to remain in a relationship with me (that is to say within my universe) then on her own she needs to become productive, occupied or otherwise happy (she needs to keep creating her life) if she wants to have a continuing relationship because I will not be responsible for doing that for her, she has to be capable of doing that much herself.
Get it? Good.
I'd be happy to clarify anything else you'd like to bring up.
Country John
[QUOTE=************]I plan on making my 1st trip to TJ in the next month or two. A few quick questions I have, couldn't find anything in any of the TJ guides.
1. How much should a taxi from the airport to near the border cost?
2. Any cheap hotels that are decent near the border? (USA side)
3. What the best hotels to stay in TJ, price I want to spend is less then 60.
4. Anyone wants free drinks? I'll down to find some people to chill with while im down there.[/QUOTE]1. Can't help you.
2. Best Western Americana Inn
815 West San Ysidro
San Diego, CA USA 92173
Like $60 bucks
3. Close to the zona action, Hacienda de Santiago (around $40) hotel IMO is the best hotel in the zona. Bring a heater perhaps. In the heart of the alley, Cascadas hotel next to Miami Bar. There is a chica surcharge I believe in Cascadas though.
1. How much should a taxi from the airport to near the border cost?
2. Any cheap hotels that are decent near the border? (USA side)
3. What the best hotels to stay in TJ, price I want to spend is less then 60.
4. Anyone wants free drinks? I'll down to find some people to chill with while im down there.
************ if this is your 1st visit to TJ I highly suggest you go with an experienced wingman. Your taxi will be $5 unless you seek out the red ones. I believe those are a buck or two cheaper. I head staight through the turnstyles and take the $5 buck ones. All you gotta do is say "Adelitas por favor." Cinco dollars?? He says more than $5 say "asta la vista" then act like you are getting out. I guarantee he says back "ok, ok, cinco"
Adelitas is in the heart of the zona. Chicago Club is up the block turn left. The Alley is behind the block fron Adelitas. A wingman can show you all the other spots and tell you where not to go. Do not forget your passport and a drivers license. If your bringing vitamins, down it before you cross. I normally do the quick turnaround thing and don't stay down there.
HAPPY MONGERING
Visited TJ last night. Not many SWs to be found. I counted a little over a dozen or so in the alley.
Hit the usual bars. Chicago and HKC were slow, with a limited selection. Went to ABs. The usual hotties were not there. Hooked up with Erica.
This will be my 1st time to TJ just for mongering, i've been there in the past with an ex gf. As for all the hot spots im pretty sure I know which places to go, ive read ALL the online guides on here and ********.com.
Are you sure you need a passport to reenter the USA? I thought thats only if you are flying.
[QUOTE=************]This will be my 1st time to TJ just for mongering, i've been there in the past with an ex gf. As for all the hot spots im pretty sure I know which places to go, ive read ALL the online guides on here and ********.com.
Are you sure you need a passport to reenter the USA? I thought thats only if you are flying.[/QUOTE]
Correct. You will not need a passport to return to the USA on foot or by car. You need a passport only if you are returning by air.
Country John
I just purchased my ticket, man I got a great deal. Less then $200 round trip from Orlando to San Diego. I can't wait now, to bring back some pictures. Are you allowed to take pictures inside the clubs? Also do most chicas let you take their pictures in the private rooms?
[QUOTE=************]Are you allowed to take pictures inside the clubs? Also do most chicas let you take their pictures in the private rooms?[/QUOTE]
Generally the clubs don't allow this although I recall at least one post mentioning it. I have seen maseros (waiters) give warnings several times. In Adelita Bar, I have seen a masero actually grab a phone from a guy and search it for photos.
Within the clubs there are invariably sanctioned photographers who will take a polaroid of you with a girl you are sitting with. They ask $5 but will take $4 if offered. The girls seem to be okay with this. I have a small collection of these polaroids myself. Alternatively, some guys mention giving their digital camera to a friendly masero who will take a photo for a tip.
Inside the room, I have never had the balls to ask a girl to let me take nude photos. I have taken clothed photos often. Typically, these are favorite girls that know me well. My own experience and certainly the impression I've gathered from reading many reports here is that most girls simply refuse photos. Some girls promise photos and then refuse in the room. And others allow very limited, controlled photos for a tip.
If you talk a good game and find the right girl, you might pull it off. But don't make this a major goal of your trip or you will likely be disappointed.
Another tip, if you do get some photos, don't walk around with those photos loaded in your camera for some cop to see and hassle you for.
Have fun,
Mike
Good advice Mike 123.
Porn is illegal in Mexico and if the cops find nude pics of girls on your cam, you'd better have some money on you, because you're going to have to buy your way out of it. Same goes for your computer.
I have over 3000 pics of my girl in various stages of dress. Many nudes, many pussy shots. I got pics of memorial blow jobs etc. All those live on a dvd kept out of Mexico. In fact, why look at the pics when I got the girl?
I was stopped once with about 100 nude pics of her on the camera. The cops thought they had struck paydirt. My girl got the message through that we live together in TJ and she is my Amante, they had nowhere to go. The pics were porn style, no question about it.
The clubs won't let you take pics but Mike 123 is right. For a tip, the waiters will do anything. Have a secure place for your camera too or else someone else might be enjoying your work.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
I went to TJ Friday and Saturday night. Got searched by the cops at the border both nights. It was the first time I've ever been searched. They got me as I was getting out of the cab to cross back over on foot. They made me lean over a mailbox and searched my pockets for "pills" and "weapons". Finding nothing, they let me go.
The foot traffic coming back into the US was non-existent. No line whatsoever on Friday night at 2:30am and only a group of about 8-10 people from Ireland in front of me on Saturday night about 1:30am.
I finally got to go down south after a 6 month absence. Got into town around 06:30 and went to my new favorite steak house, Cheripan. This is where the upper class goes to eat. Want to see locals dressed up to the nines? This is one of those places.
Anyways, after dinner headed over to a/b.. I just walked in and walked right on out. There must have been a ratio of 8 guys for every chica. If you were a girl, this place was great, but us guys damn.
Went over to l/c. There were a few good looking girls there but of course they were sitting with guys that wanted them for the whole night. I stayed there for about an hour and a half. Since the girls I liked were not going to be availiable soon, I then walked over to t/b..
This place is becoming scary. Not the girls because there were some cute ones, but the price. I bought a drink for a better than average looking chica but certainly not a 9 or 10, more like an upper 6 -8. Anyways I asked her how much to go upstairs and she said it would be $80 dollars. I said no way. She wouldn't come down even though I told her the most I ever paid for a girl out of there was mx$600, and that was when the peso was almost 11- 1.
She wouldn't come down so I asked her who are the guys paying this price. She said all the gringos pay her this price. I know it's probably not the guys on this board that are paying that price, but this just goes to show you what we are up against.
After that fiasco, I went back to l/c and picked up a chica who had a pretty face but a big body. Not fat, just big. Anyways, she only asked for $40 and her service upstairs was good including dfk.
Hopefully $80 doesn't become the norm for their weak ass 1/2 hour service.
Q
Anyone know of any hotels that offer cheaper rates if you plan on staying about a week? If not looks like i'll be headed to Hacienda de Santiago looks like people here recommend that place.
[QUOTE=************]Anyone know of any hotels that offer cheaper rates if you plan on staying about a week? If not looks like i'll be headed to Hacienda de Santiago looks like people here recommend that place.[/QUOTE]
At one point they had a special where if you stayed 5 nights and paid up front you got two days free.
Anyone know if hotel Hacienda de Santiago has rooms with a safe? If not any other hotels in TJ have them?
Also how safe is using a ATM in TJ? My understanding so far is that it is ok to use a ATM as long as you go into a big building such as a bank and use it inside where people on the street can't see you. When you do use an ATM in Mexico do they charge a crap load of fees?
[QUOTE=Quackup] This place is becoming scary. Not the girls because there were some cute ones, but the price. I bought a drink for a better than average looking chica but certainly not a 9 or 10, more like an upper 6 -8. Anyways I asked her how much to go upstairs and she said it would be $80 dollars. I said no way. She wouldn't come down even though I told her the most I ever paid for a girl out of there was mx$600, and that was when the peso was almost 11- 1.
She wouldn't come down so I asked her who are the guys paying this price. She said all the gringos pay her this price. I know it's probably not the guys on this board that are paying that price, but this just goes to show you what we are up against.
Hopefully $80 doesn't become the norm for their weak ass 1/2 hour service.
Q[/QUOTE]
Isn't this sad???
If we don't put a "STOP" to this shit, we are looking to the end of the zona.
There's no doubt that AB is ripping off the gringos.
Don't be surprise if you next stop in AB looks like this $100,+ $20 room, $10 ficha.
[QUOTE=************]Anyone know if hotel Hacienda de Santiago has rooms with a safe? If not any other hotels in TJ have them?
Also how safe is using a ATM in TJ? My understanding so far is that it is ok to use a ATM as long as you go into a big building such as a bank and use it inside where people on the street can't see you. When you do use an ATM in Mexico do they charge a crap load of fees?[/QUOTE]Hello,,,
No in-room safes. Maybe in the lobby they have a safe available.
I've personally never had a problem using ATM's in tj. Read of a couple people having problems, mostly idiots getting help from strangers and whamo card swapped or other stuff. They walked into those problems.
The big Sanborns over on rev by 8th street has two atm machines I believe. Theres an atm by HDS walking towards rev thats I've used a couple times with no problems also.
For fees I've gotten charged like $2-3 bucks of fees but I did get charged some international fee atleast once with my BoA card.
Mike,
There's an HBSC on Revolution Av. not far from the Zona. I have not used it but I would not hesitate; HBSC is a very reputable international bank. In general cash withdrawals from ATMs provide you the best exchange rates and lower fees than you will get from a cambio exchange booth. You may negotiate slightly better prices by paying in pesos but everybody in the area is quite happy to accept dollars you bring from the USA.
I believe Hacienda de Santiago has a safe but not in the rooms. The rooms are quite large and quite nice. Tile, no carpeting, very clean. They have kitchenettes but no utensils, and the rooms are stripped -- not even a hangar in the closet. There's a liquor store / quick mart in the building and a small market across the intersection.
[QUOTE=************]Anyone know if hotel Hacienda de Santiago has rooms with a safe? If not any other hotels in TJ have them?
Also how safe is using a ATM in TJ? My understanding so far is that it is ok to use a ATM as long as you go into a big building such as a bank and use it inside where people on the street can't see you. When you do use an ATM in Mexico do they charge a crap load of fees?[/QUOTE]
No safes in the room in Santiago, but they do have safety deposit boxes in the lobby that you can use. In fact, there is a big sign there that basically says they're not responsible for anything left in the room and to keep all valuables in the boxes in the lobby. Never had any trouble with stuff being stolen there, but I would not risk it. If you have valuables, use the box or better yet, leave them north of the border.
Blue Nose
I had one of my quick West Coast trips last week. Wednesday night I flew into San Diego about 7:30pm. Since I had to be in LA the next day for an 11am meeting I didn't want to risk getting stuck trying to cross the border so I stayed on the US side. The Travel Lodge is $49 during the week and is fairly clean.
I was in the Zona by 9pm. I was surprised by how slow it was. I know it was early but when I walked in AB's it look like the YMCA. Very few chicas and a couple dozen guys, mostly locals. It didn't matter because I've been doing more of the SGs lately. I find you’re just as likely to find a good performer in either spot. At least when you get a lousy lay it's not quite as aggravating if you’ve paid $20 instead of the $50 or $60 that the club girls want. I found one that was a lot of fun off the alley and then had a good dinner at La Perlas. After bouncing around and having a few drinks in the local bars it was time for another girl. This time I took one out of the Alley. She asked for $40 but took $25. Unfortunately she was in a hurry upstairs but, with some effort, I was able to finish. You can’t always pick a gem. I had a few more drinks and took a cab back to the border. The night went without incident and I was asleep by 3am.
I returned TJ on Saturday about noon and decided to stay again on the US side because crossing back during the day on Sundays can take hours. I took a look at the Flamingo Motel on the US side. It looked clean, was only $45 total, but didn’t have a heater. I was afraid that at 4am, my usual return time, the room would be freezing so I paid the $65 weekend rate at the Travel Lodge. This motel isn’t nearly as busy as it used to be since they’ve jumped their rates on weekends. It sits more then half empty most weekends when it used to be full. I walked from the border to the Zona because I find it perfectly safe during the day. Once across I almost immediately found a gem in the alley for $25 plus room. Not the prettiest face but thin like I like them. Once unwrapped she had a great body with perfect breasts and an attitude to match. I think she said her name was Jasmine. I seldom repeat because I usually like to try someone new but I will definitely look for this one again on my next trip. After the session I ate off the carts, had a couple beers, watched a little collage Basketball at the new Caliente on Revolucion, and waited until my batteries recharged. Then off I went to find girl #2. I found another decent SG on the CC side of Constitucion and we had a nice time. She wasn’t quite like Jasmine but was better then most, including the club girls. By this time it was around 9 pm and time for dinner. I took a cab and had them find me a restaurant that serves Carbon Pollo. For the life of me I can’t remember the restaurant’s name but it’s one of those places that barbeques the chicken over coals and it’s one of my favorite Mexican foods. After a 15 min ride, dinner, another 15 min ride, I was back in the Zona by 10 pm.
It sort of went down hill from here. I always have the cabs drop me at the big arch. This sometime saves me from the cabby’s sales pitches for massage parlors or strip clubs, besides that’s where I like to start my loop. I didn’t take 10 steps out of the cab before TJ’s finest wanted to search me. I must say they look very cute without their guns. Kind of reminds me of Barney on Mayberry only he got the gun but no bullets. The usual bullshit and they let me go. About 3 hours later, and on the same street only a block further down, I was stopped and searched again. I must not be the brightest guy in the world because I should have figured this out sooner but it finally dawned on me that every time I get searched it’s on the same street. It seems that if you’re walking alone you’re a big favorite to get stopped when walking on Articulo between Revolucion and Avenida Niños Heros. I never get stopped any were else. This is a shame because I have occasionally picked up some quality girls in this area. They are a little off the beaten track and often don’t try for an unreasonable amount when approached. They will now miss my business because I will avoid this whole block at night from now on. I will also have the cabs drop right in front of AB’s and start my loop from there where I’ll stick to Constitucion and the alley.
I then popped into my favorite bar to regroup and had a few $1 beers and a shot of good tequila. After that I ended my night in the safty of AB’s where I had some over priced beers and paid $50 for the girl plus $11 for ther room plus $1 tip for the room cleaner all for a girl who’s performance wasn’t any better then 3 of the 4 SG’s I had in the last few days. She was however very pretty :).
It was then about 4 am and I took a cab back to the border. This time I got lucky. Not that I had anything on me but I sure didn't want to get searched for the 3rd time. Just like many of you have reported the police were waiting for the gringos right where the cabs drop you off. There were about 4 of them but were all busy shaking down others that got there before me.
I would never take the risk of bringing something back but I do have a question for those of you who might know. If a legitimate, licensed, Mexican Pharmacy can sell a drug that is an over the counter drug in their country, how can it be illegal for someone to have it in their possession?
Even with all the bullshit from the police, the hustlers, and the beggars, I still will be back. There’s something about the culture, the food, and especially the ladies that will always draw me to Latin American countries.
Be Safe, and when in TJ, be extra safe.
Rider Jay
I was informed that you need to show a Mexican prescription for the pills you bought in order to be legal. Crazy I know. My question is why are they so concerned with us leaving their country with drugs or weapons?? You would think they would be more concerned with these things coming into their country. Maybe they are leery of their 'image" being tarnished and want to be sure everything stays in Mexico.
The only time I've been stopped (and, also personally ripped off by TJ's finest) was at the Sentri line where the ratero policia lifted money out of my wallet during a pat down. But I have personally seen gringos being shaken down on Ninos Heroes between Coahuila and the Alley and even on Coahuilla between La Tropa and AB. That was, of course, before the Federal crackdown.
[QUOTE=Steve 99]Well did a few nights in TJ this week. The winter is definietly slower than the spring summer. Quality/Qty way down versus June when I was here.
Popped a Street Girl first night. Blow-up doll nightmare. Why even bother?
I was about to give up on TJ all together but decided one more try. Went down next night and got 2 great pulls. One from Tropical. One from CC. Both great attitueds and great performance. Went through a few drinks with girls with bad vibes. It is worth the 7 bucks to screen them.
Last night tried to keep it going. Got a cute Tropical girl who spoke no English. She undresses and lays on bed. Worse than Street Girl. I should have put my clothes on and left. I mean this girl just starfished like I have never seen. Grudge fucked her best I could and left. Chicas like this should not be working.
So you can find the good performers in TJ. It takes luck and good screening. Adelitas girls looked all big time production oriented. Worse than June. I live on the East and no trade shows in San Diego for a couple years so thats it for TJ for me for a few years. I can see why the CA guys burn out on TJ with the starfish pulls- pisses you off! But it is worth it if you land the good ones. [/QUOTE]Starfish? Elaborate please.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Starfish? Elaborate please.[/QUOTE]
:) Starfish = Just lays there. Starfish move so slowly that it's hard to tell if they are even alive. So, a girl who just plops her lazy ass down, lays back, and stares at the ceiling while you're doing her is called a starfish.
Any suggestions of things to do in TJ in between pops?
Anything besides 1$ dances at HK?
[QUOTE=Tommy 246]Any suggestions of things to do in TJ in between pops?
Anything besides 1$ dances at HK?[/QUOTE]
What you can do in TJ between pops is ?????????????????????????hummmm
wow! This is a hard question, I guess not much, I ask myself the same Q when I'm there, I guess eating, drinking, get laid, sing a ranchera kateoki, or maybe talk a lot of whatever BS with a ficha girl for $7 bucks :>)
[QUOTE=Tommy 246]Any suggestions of things to do in TJ in between pops?
Anything besides 1$ dances at HK?[/QUOTE]
There aren't $1 dances at Hong Kong, but you can kick back and watch the strip show. Or go upstairs and watch sports on the TVs. [list]Go next door to Miami Bar for $1 dances.[/list][list]Go to Chavelas Bar for $1 dances.[/list][list]Go to Bar Tropical for $1 dances.[/list][list]Explore the many, many other bars.[/list][list]I recommend a bowl of Tortilla Soup at Hard Rock Cafe.[/list][list]Chat with the Street Girls.[/list][list]Sleep.[/list][list]Walk around Revolution.[/list][list]Go to Plaza Rio.[/list]
Personally, I know several street girls well so I like to spend time with them. After an extended session in my hotel room, maybe see a movie or get something to eat with them or just window shopping. Also, I like to go with a favorite to dance or have a beer together.
[QUOTE=Tommy 246]Any suggestions of things to do in TJ in between pops?
Anything besides 1$ dances at HK?[/QUOTE]
Restaurants, night clubs, movies, internet cafes, gambling (sort of), wrestling, beaches, bull fights, churches, shopping ...
Depends on time of day, time of year, how much Spanish you speak and how much hassle you want to deal with getting around. What do you do at home between pops?
[QUOTE=hardbarg]Restaurants, night clubs, movies, internet cafes, gambling (sort of), wrestling, beaches, bull fights, churches, shopping ...
Depends on time of day, time of year, how much Spanish you speak and how much hassle you want to deal with getting around. What do you do at home between pops?[/QUOTE]
Shoot some pool, go bowling, go to Centro Cultural de Tijuana, get a massage, go to the zoo, go to the greyhound races, go to a swap meet, go to Rosarito.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Shoot some pool, go bowling, go to Centro Cultural de Tijuana, get a massage, go to the zoo, go to the greyhound races, go to a swap meet, go to Rosarito.[/QUOTE]
How about "GIRL WATCHING?"
There are loads of ladies out there roaming around. Post pop time is great for girl watching. Go up to the restaurant at the Hotel Nelson, have a quiet beer, maybe some soup. Relax and enjoy the sounds of TJ singing.
I would sit at the taco stand in the Alley (before they enclosed it and lost Country John's business) and watch the parade of Gringos and hookers.
You can also check your email at the internet cafe, stroll revolution... sheesh, there's lots to do between pops.
Country John
I have thought about having a mini vacation in T.J. In other words to enjoy the culture and the social events the city has to offer. What do you say, Country John, are there apartments, houses for rent for a reasonable some for a month or so?
Thanks.
Just when I thought it was the end of western civilization, ( lol ), my faith has been restored at t/b. What a difference a week makes. After last weeks fiasco I came back down Sunday to see if the new trend would be higher prices at t/b.. Fortunately, it is not.
I went up with two different girls at different times and the sessions were really good. They didn't ask for $80 like the girls did last week. They both settled for mx$600. The first girl, her name is Camilla. She is petite and from Veracruz. Not the prettiest, but alot of fun upstairs. She didn't ask for money up front, provided bbbj, daty, many positions, and most of all, what I like best, lfk, dfking, and not a clock watcher. For whatever reason, maybe because it was a slow day, the knock came after about 45 minutes. Recommended.
The second girl, her name is Alexandria, or something similar to it. She imho, is much pretier than the first girl. She is taller, about 5'6" and the kind of body I adore. The only knock on her, she did everything Camilla did with the exception of the bbbj. She gave a cbj. But again, she was into dfking so I still had a great time with her.
Bad news is, now that I know the prices are still reasonable, I may have to go back next weekend.
I almost forgot, Camilla works the day shift, she leaves around 9:00, and Alex works the night shift, I believe she starts at 8:00.
Q
[QUOTE=Member #2055]I have thought about having a mini vacation in T.J. In other words to enjoy the culture and the social events the city has to offer. What do you say, Country John, are there apartments, houses for rent for a reasonable some for a month or so?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Not sure about monthly rentals, never checked it out. I have a 1 year lease on my house. I'm certain that, if you look around, you'll be able to come up with something furnished on a short term basis. Even some of the hotels might talk to you about an extended stay.
Expect to pay around $300 to $400 for an apartment unfurnished. You might work that into a cupple weeks at one of the hotels based on $25. a night.
Also, check craigs list. Look for short term rentals in TJ. I'll keep an eye open for you because I'm probably going to move into a smaller place later this year.
Country John
LOL,LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you guys for real??????????????????
Go to Rosarito, church, zoo, bowling, shopping, bull fight,beaches,etc...
You're not in Miami beach or Hawaii.
Yeah right! Cruise Tj in a pink Cadillac convertible drinking fine champagne and smoking those $100 cubans.
You people are really funny, Tj is to get laid, eat, drink and get laid again, not a place for family picnic.
If you want to go to the zoo go to San Diego LOL! and check seaworld wile you're there.
Horny:
Hey, the guy asked for suggestions. Recommendations are something else. I don't know what he's interested in.
For you however, I'd recommend the cathedral just outside la zona.
Just a quick question for you all,
Anyone ever stay at the Hotel La Villa De La Zaragoza? It's located behind the Hai Alai building, one block off of Revolution.
A friend of mine told me it was a nice place, but he doesn't monger, so I was wondering if they let you bring girls back to the room?
Thanks,
BigGuy
[QUOTE=hardbarg]
For you however, I'd recommend the cathedral just outside la zona.[/QUOTE]
What?
Cathedral?
Suggestions/Recommendations? What's the difference?
Are you trying to confuse me?
[QUOTE=BigGuy]Just a quick question for you all,
Anyone ever stay at the Hotel La Villa De La Zaragoza? It's located behind the Hai Alai building, one block off of Revolution.
A friend of mine told me it was a nice place, but he doesn't monger, so I was wondering if they let you bring girls back to the room?
Thanks,
BigGuy[/QUOTE]
Yeah but DO NOT use a credit card or ATM Debit card. Use Cash. Call first for the rate and be careful you dont get upcharged by the desk help. Parking is secure, $2.00 propina for the guard if you drive in. There is a decent restaurant there also with a bar. The place is chica friendly
Country John
Hi guys,
I have to be in San Diego this Monday for business. Any ideas of a good place to watch the game in TJ?
I'm basically looking for a place I can get a seat, order food, and drink. While I usually separate football and mongering, I'll be alone, so I figure TJ would be a better choice than watching the game in San Diego.
Thanks.
MC
havn't done the tj scene in a while, especially after hearing adelitas was taking a dive
anyways went down today and had a great time. i first did a sg, she didn't try to raise the rates or none of that, but i did feel pretty bad because while the deed was being done she kept looking away like i was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her or something, talk about a kill joy, felt bad and gave her a big tip
then i went to adelitas, a chick approached me, big ta ta's don't remember the name, think she was 27 and has a baseball uniform theme going
paid the 60, service was great she kept talking dirty to me in spanish which was a pretty big turn on, overall one of the best adelitas girls i've ever done
2nd adelitas girl, again don't remember her name, she was tall though (prob close to 6 if not over), red dress and had braces
paid 60 again and had great service w/ good attitude and she kinda look liked j-low which was an added bonus!
again one of the best adelitas girls i've ever done
overall one of my better adelitas moment
the only negative experience was this one girl that looked pretty but she had the weirded most annoying/creepy voice ever.
THINGS TO DO BETWEEN POPS
Grab a Taxi, tell them Plaza Rio Shopping cinco dolares....
10 minute ride to a modern American style classy shopping mall 100's of stores and 2 movie houses ( most of the movies are in English with Spanish subtitles).
They have a nice food court, McDonalds, etc. and a Sanborns... You will be amazed how you can go from a shithole to a modern shopping mall in 10 minutes!
[QUOTE=Mikecnyc]Hi guys,
I have to be in San Diego this Monday for business. Any ideas of a good place to watch the game in TJ?
I'm basically looking for a place I can get a seat, order food, and drink. While I usually separate football and mongering, I'll be alone, so I figure TJ would be a better choice than watching the game in San Diego.
Thanks.
MC[/QUOTE]
Adelita Bar should be showing the game. Expect lots of company though. It's usually a popular time in Adelitas and the girls HATE it. The maseros love it because the beers flow.
Have a good time.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]Adelita Bar should be showing the game. Expect lots of company though. It's usually a popular time in Adelitas and the girls HATE it. The maseros love it because the beers flow.
Have a good time.
Country John[/QUOTE]Thanks. I've only been to TJ 4 or 5 times and couldn't remember if Adelita's even had a TV. I've only been on weekend nights and all the popular Zona Norte bars were wall to wall with people. I figure, I'll take a lap up Revo to the zona and see what looks good. Hell, maybe I'll even go into one of those strip clubs clip joints with the nice interiors as a treat.
Hong Kong will be showing the game, too, but you might have to motion to the dancers to get out of the way of the screen. This really pisses them off!
[QUOTE=Mikecnyc]Hi guys,
I have to be in San Diego this Monday for business. Any ideas of a good place to watch the game in TJ?
I'm basically looking for a place I can get a seat, order food, and drink. While I usually separate football and mongering, I'll be alone, so I figure TJ would be a better choice than watching the game in San Diego.
Thanks.
MC[/QUOTE]
If ABs is too crowded, try Chicago Club. It is usually dead in the late afternoon and early evening and they will definitely have the game on. If you want to gamble on the game, you could also watch it at Caliente Sport Book - right across from La Valentina Bar in the alley.
Blue Nose
I don't know about you guys, but when I go mongering for an extended period of time, I like to gather as much info about the place ahead of time as I can.
The article below suggests that Tijuana has undergone changes in positive ways as well. The prostitutes are active in preserving their livelihood in the city, and have been active in standing up for their rights. It's still the best place to monger along the Mexican border that I have seen.
[url]http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/87/Tijuana.html[/url]
I think it's best to rent two places, if you can afford it. A nice one to live in, and a cheap room somewhere else to invite the overnight hookers to.
For the sake of variety, and possible free sex, I like to cultivate relationships with women from other walks of life too. It is nice to know that there is some amazing talent on the street in TJ, just in case. That way, a normal date is not overshadowed by the immediate need to get laid. One can be more selective, not appear needy, and tend to get better response from women in general.
Just the fact that you are from the States makes you attractive to women in TJ, and I think you can honestly play that card without making serious commitments. I get the impression that there is a more sophisticated side of TJ, more so than other Mexican border cities.
Besides, when you spend more time in one place you need some diversions and a hobby. I speak Spanish fluently, though not like a native. The fact that it's two hours from LA helps.
I am curious what impressions longer term visitors of TJ, like Country John, have of the city. The city has a great red light district for starters.
[QUOTE=Member #2055]For the sake of variety, and possible free sex, I like to cultivate relationships with women from other walks of life too. It is nice to know that there is some amazing talent on the street in TJ, just in case. That way, a normal date is not overshadowed by the immediate need to get laid. One can be more selective, not appear needy, and tend to get better response from women in general.
Just the fact that you are from the States makes you attractive to women in TJ, and I think you can honestly play that card without making serious commitments. I get the impression that there is a more sophisticated side of TJ, more so than other Mexican border cities.
Besides, when you spend more time in one place you need some diversions and a hobby. I speak Spanish fluently, though not like a native. The fact that it's two hours from LA helps.
I am curious what impressions longer term visitors of TJ, like Country John, have of the city. The city has a great red light district for starters.[/QUOTE]
Well, I lived there for 5 years so I guess I can give you another frame of reference (even though I only speak for myself).
I agree that there is some untapped civilian talent on the street down there. If you were to take a break from Zona Norte for a bit and check out the rest of TJ, you'd find that there are some real cuties running around town. I don't think that being a Yank is such a turn-on for them in the way that you might think, though; being a border town with a world-famous red light district, I'm sure that gringos are nothing new to them. HOWEVER, being a gringo that [i]speaks the language[/i] and [i]understands the culture[/i], without being condescending - THAT is what they would find impressive, and I speak from experience on that.
In fact, I [u]highly[/u] suggest that any habitual TJ mongers take a few Spanish classes. It sounds weird, but when you come to TJ as a tourist or monger you often see only one side of the town, and that side usually looks like Av. Revelucion or Coahuila - in other words, a shithole. But when you go down there armed with some Spanish and an [i]open mind[/i] you start seeing another side of the place that most visitors miss out on completely (maybe it's because folks who actually take the time to understand a place's language and culture tend to become a bit more adventurous). I've even noticed that natives will treat you a little differently, seeng how you're obviously not the typical "Ugly Americano Tourista".
Since you speak some Spanish you should try visiting TJ without hitting the red light district sometime. You'd be surprised at what you'd find. I was so surprised that I stayed there for 5 years :)
I met a woman on Amigos.com and we went on a normal date in Tijuana. She arranged the details. She spoke fluent English and has family in the LA area. We met for lunch, and afterwards went to a very upscale French Bistro, went to a movie in English, and then a nice coffee house. We drove around a bit and as we went down Revolution, which she hadn't seen in several years, she asked me to lock my car door because of all the drunk Americans. Her feelings were that you can find whatever you are looking for in Tijuana--a normal life, classy nightlife, culture, or the clubs for tourists and the prostitutes.
It was interesting to get her take on life in TJ.
[QUOTE=Member #2055]I am curious what impressions longer term visitors of TJ, like Country John, have of the city. The city has a great red light district for starters.[/QUOTE]
Tijuana is hot and cold. I've not had a bad experience personally, but gringos have to know that there is a potential for violence so they have to do basic things to stay low profile and avoid attracting attention. The reasons for this are many. There are many similarities to living anywhere in the USA, but in Mexico poverty, education and unemployment (criminal element notwithstanding) are reasons why people commit crimes. Mexico is no different.
So personal security moves to the front burner - big time.
The people are a gregarious and warm for the most part. They are a pleasure to be among. They understand the importance of family and friendships. Relationships tend to be warm and accomodating.
Gringos get a bad rap because they are generally arrogant and think that when they are in Mexico they can do whatever the hell they want. They have no idea how high profile they are, they in fact deny it with an aire of arrogance.
"Gringos" doesn't always mean "white" just like "nigger" doesn't always mean "black." In Mexico, it's a condition of existence it seems. Gringos are carefully watched. They also have a reputation for coming to Mexico for sex, not only with hookers, but also with minors. Child abuse at the hands of sex tourists is a huge problem. Recent arrests in Mexico bear that out.
What am I getting at?
Chicas tend to "hope" that a gringo is cool, but they tend to first believe otherwise since the gringo's tendancy is to take advantage; the very thing gringos accuse Mexicans of. They get a few beers in and then they start gushing with bullshit, bragging about what they got then telling the chica how beautiful she is. Very bad. The girl sees right through it. Of course the gringo doesn't know that loose lips sink ships and if the girl is bad, he's setting himself up.
It's tough to make a very positive first impression on a civilian latina. It's tough to win them over into dating material and eventually in the sack. The looser the latina, the easier the score. But your question was about impressions of TJ and bagging a civilian. Such a relationship must be developed and YOU have to be cool and willing to let it happen. Having a prostitute on the side will handle your immediate needs of course but when she finds out it is OVER with a big "O."
Latinas are VERY possessive and very jealous. They are demanding in terms of your time and attention. It can be a problem if you are not willing to accomodate them. The rewards far outweigh the drawbacks however if you get the right girley.
Traffic there is crazy - TJ is where you learn survival driving and you learn that anyfuckingthing is possible on the roads. The only good part is that the "other guy" knows that too so there is a sort of "mutual respect" and people get along it seems. Pot holes can take out your front end. Left hand turns from the far right hand lane across traffic and against a red light are common. Be ready for anything. Not just from taxi drivers, from ANY other car on the road.
Getting settled is done long hand. YOU have to go to the water company, etc. Service sucks generally but Americans are spoiled and expect everything delivered to the door on a silver platter. This does NOT happen in Tijuana. Roll the calendar back to the mid '60's and if you were around then you'll get a sense of what I'm talking about. It was a very cool time too.
For those of you brought up in California, TJ is a step backwards in terms of life style if material wealth or possessions is your standard of measurement. It is a major step forward if you are all about relationships and really enjoying the company of your friends. Chicas like to see their guy with "stuff" but they also like to see some stuff between the ears too. They can tell if you are your shit.
Americans seems to confuse the "quality of life" with the "quality of living." They are not the same thing. What would you be like if half your shit was taken away. Take ten years or so off the year of your car, divide the square footage of your house by 2, cut your income in half, etc. What would you be like if you had to cut by 1/2 everything you spend or have?
Latinas really do want a decent future. They are sincere. They will give you their life if you show them your heart. And believe me, NOBODY does it better than the latina. They are loyal and dedicated but it's a developed relationship and that can only happen when you understand how they think. A poster once said: "The only men who know everything about women already have boyfriends."
Dating a bar girl or a prostitute is stupid. You pay them, you fuck them, you leave.
The right civilian is a gem when you find the right girl, it's worth the search.
There are PLENTY of places to go in TJ besides the Zona. Las Pulgas on South Revo is jiumping with civilians - nice looking girls. As is El Torito (my new stomping pad). Gringos, LEAVE THE FUCKING CUT OFFS, TENNIS SHOES AND BACKWARDS BASEBALL CAPS AT HOME. I see the chicas laughting and pointing at you when you come into the club before your eyes adjust to the dark. You think you look hip hop, you look like a clown, like you don't know how to dress to impress. If you don't want to impress, then forget about it, right?
Wear something that falls into the "smart casual" class.
TJ has some bad PR, a lot of it is true but when you get "TJ Broken" and understand how things work you understand how to peacefully co-exist with TJ and when you do THAT, you just might learn to like it and the term "gringo" might not apply to yo any more.
Be Safe and Be Nice,
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]Tijuana is hot and cold. I've not had a bad experience personally, but gringos have to know that there is a potential for violence so they have to do basic things to stay low profile and avoid attracting attention. The reasons for this are many. There are many similarities to living anywhere in the USA, but in Mexico poverty, education and unemployment (criminal element notwithstanding) are reasons why people commit crimes. Mexico is no different.
So personal security moves to the front burner - big time.
The people are a gregarious and warm for the most part. They are a pleasure to be among. They understand the importance of family and friendships. Relationships tend to be warm and accomodating.
Gringos get a bad rap because they are generally arrogant and think that when they are in Mexico they can do whatever the hell they want. They have no idea how high profile they are, they in fact deny it with an aire of arrogance.
"Gringos" doesn't always mean "white" just like "nigger" doesn't always mean "black." In Mexico, it's a condition of existence it seems. Gringos are carefully watched. They also have a reputation for coming to Mexico for sex, not only with hookers, but also with minors. Child abuse at the hands of sex tourists is a huge problem. Recent arrests in Mexico bear that out.
What am I getting at?
Chicas tend to "hope" that a gringo is cool, but they tend to first believe otherwise since the gringo's tendancy is to take advantage; the very thing gringos accuse Mexicans of. They get a few beers in and then they start gushing with bullshit, bragging about what they got then telling the chica how beautiful she is. Very bad. The girl sees right through it. Of course the gringo doesn't know that loose lips sink ships and if the girl is bad, he's setting himself up.
It's tough to make a very positive first impression on a civilian latina. It's tough to win them over into dating material and eventually in the sack. The looser the latina, the easier the score. But your question was about impressions of TJ and bagging a civilian. Such a relationship must be developed and YOU have to be cool and willing to let it happen. Having a prostitute on the side will handle your immediate needs of course but when she finds out it is OVER with a big "O."
Latinas are VERY possessive and very jealous. They are demanding in terms of your time and attention. It can be a problem if you are not willing to accomodate them. The rewards far outweigh the drawbacks however if you get the right girley.
Traffic there is crazy - TJ is where you learn survival driving and you learn that anyfuckingthing is possible on the roads. The only good part is that the "other guy" knows that too so there is a sort of "mutual respect" and people get along it seems. Pot holes can take out your front end. Left hand turns from the far right hand lane across traffic and against a red light are common. Be ready for anything. Not just from taxi drivers, from ANY other car on the road.
Getting settled is done long hand. YOU have to go to the water company, etc. Service sucks generally but Americans are spoiled and expect everything delivered to the door on a silver platter. This does NOT happen in Tijuana. Roll the calendar back to the mid '60's and if you were around then you'll get a sense of what I'm talking about. It was a very cool time too.
For those of you brought up in California, TJ is a step backwards in terms of life style if material wealth or possessions is your standard of measurement. It is a major step forward if you are all about relationships and really enjoying the company of your friends. Chicas like to see their guy with "stuff" but they also like to see some stuff between the ears too. They can tell if you are your shit.
Americans seems to confuse the "quality of life" with the "quality of living." They are not the same thing. What would you be like if half your shit was taken away. Take ten years or so off the year of your car, divide the square footage of your house by 2, cut your income in half, etc. What would you be like if you had to cut by 1/2 everything you spend or have?
Latinas really do want a decent future. They are sincere. They will give you their life if you show them your heart. And believe me, NOBODY does it better than the latina. They are loyal and dedicated but it's a developed relationship and that can only happen when you understand how they think. A poster once said: "The only men who know everything about women already have boyfriends."
Dating a bar girl or a prostitute is stupid. You pay them, you fuck them, you leave.
The right civilian is a gem when you find the right girl, it's worth the search.
There are PLENTY of places to go in TJ besides the Zona. Las Pulgas on South Revo is jiumping with civilians - nice looking girls. As is El Torito (my new stomping pad). Gringos, LEAVE THE FUCKING CUT OFFS, TENNIS SHOES AND BACKWARDS BASEBALL CAPS AT HOME. I see the chicas laughting and pointing at you when you come into the club before your eyes adjust to the dark. You think you look hip hop, you look like a clown, like you don't know how to dress to impress. If you don't want to impress, then forget about it, right?
Wear something that falls into the "smart casual" class.
TJ has some bad PR, a lot of it is true but when you get "TJ Broken" and understand how things work you understand how to peacefully co-exist with TJ and when you do THAT, you just might learn to like it and the term "gringo" might not apply to yo any more.
Be Safe and Be Nice,
Country John[/QUOTE]
I could not have put it better myself, and your analysis was spot-on (as usual). I can definitely tell you have experience down there.
C.J., you made some good points about dressing appropriately in TJ. That is true even in the Zona. I found that I got better services, and rapport from the girls when I did not look like a bum off of the streets of LA. Even the cops don't hassle you when you project the right image.
Saw a brief news clip last week on CCN that 3000 Mexican troops are due to arrive in TJ because of the violence against LE over there. Has that changed the mongering situation at all in the Zona? Probably not, I would think.
Yeah, saw that huge sign in TJ at that traffic circle targeting illegal sex tourism. I guess some US NGOs have to justify their huge salaries by doing publicity campaigns. It concerns me to the extent that I want to know if there are any sting operations in the Zona or TJ where a 16/17 year old is used as a decoy to masquerade as a legal chica to snare the unaware. We all know that a lot of the girls drop their first baby around 16 or 17, but as foreigners we are held to a higher standard. No problem with that. OTO it is essential to know if we, as sex tourists are being targeted by entrapment techniques favored by US LE.
S.V. your description also suggests that TJ is a cosmopolitan city, notwithstanding the fact that large parts are TJ are third world, it seems to be a mix of first world and third world.
The other thing, are the girls back to pre-Xmas levels in numbers and quality yet?
[quote=adelante siempre]c.j., you made some good points about dressing appropriately in tj. that is true even in the zona. i found that i got better services, and rapport from the girls when i did not look like a bum off of the streets of la. even the cops don't hassle you when you project the right image.
saw a brief news clip last week on ccn that 3000 mexican troops are due to arrive in tj because of the violence against le over there. has that changed the mongering situation at all in the zona? probably not, i would think.
yeah, saw that huge sign in tj at that traffic circle targeting illegal sex tourism. i guess some us ngos have to justify their huge salaries by doing publicity campaigns. it concerns me to the extent that i want to know if there are any sting operations in the zona or tj where a 16/17 year old is used as a decoy to masquerade as a legal chica to snare the unaware. we all know that a lot of the girls drop their first baby around 16 or 17, but as foreigners we are held to a higher standard. no problem with that. oto it is essential to know if we, as sex tourists are being targeted by entrapment techniques favored by us le.
s.v. your description also suggests that tj is a cosmopolitan city, notwithstanding the fact that large parts are tj are third world, it seems to be a mix of first world and third world.
the other thing, are the girls back to pre-xmas levels in numbers and quality yet?[/quote]tj does look like a thrid world city when you compare it to the gold plated streets of california, where a bump in the road is a cause of action in a lawsuit against everyone in the state. i don't call that "progress, " i call it "regression. "
the cops in tj got their guns back but the troops are still here. when the tjpd were a toothless tiger, everyone seemed a bit more relaxed. the cops stood down for several days but got back to business when the money got tight. there has been no change in their behavior in that regard.
the road blocks are tight right now, especially on the way to the zona. if you drive across, do not go to ave. see. benito juarez via ave puente mexico (taking the hard left loop) because as soon as you make the lopp, you get stopped. and they're stopping everything with california plates that has wheels.
here's what you need to do: after crossing, keep right on av puente mexico to ave paseo de los heros. make the right at emanillo zapata (next to costco). continue west and then either turn right on constitution or revolution. (revo might be blocked if traffic is heavy on the weekend) and consititution will take you right into the heart of the zona norte.
now that the cops got their guns back there is less military so less reason for the cops to stay honest at the checkpoints. avoid the checkpoints.
when you leave the zona, don; t take the short route back to the boder, take the longer way. that way you'll avoid the checkpoints. if you park at the leyva, when you make the right turn exit on constitution, turn left at the first stop sign, then take the first left, (ninos heros) then turn left on flores magon (i think you can make the left there, if not, go to the next block) then follow it east to constitution, turn right and follow it to s sarabia, turn left. take that to av paseo de los heros, take the roudabout and follow the signs to the border. you will be very close so don't sweat it. just pay attention. sometimes there is a checkoint on the roundabout but they are looking for drunk drivers, not mongers.
remember to be very cool and obey all traffic signals. behave yourself!
load up on some spicy tacos or something else to mask your breath. smoke a stinky cigar or something. if they smell booze on you, it could cost you a bundle. never have an open container in the vehicle.
regarding minors: la mesa prison is one of the worst in mexico. that's where you will go if you get busted. there is no heat, no airconditioning, the food sucks and so do the rest of the inmate population. it will be the worst experience of your life. getting out could cost you everything you own, not to mention your marriage. it can ruin your life. if you go in for sex crimes against a minor you might be in for a unique sexual experience when in prison.
a minor can trap you in the room after you do the deed. if you do not pay up big time, she could go to the cops (or her boyfriend might turn you in). you could get grabbed by a decoy. as soon as you lay a hand on her, you are gone. once the cuffs go on, they stay on mate. you are toast. there is a zero tolerance for this in mexico (as it should be).
just because mexico has strict laws and some corrupt cops doesn't mean it's a shithole. it is a very very cool place for those who willingly choose to behave. even then you still have to be careful. i am constantly on guard. it just takes less effort now.
dress to impress the girls. smell good. look good. be polite and don't brag about anything except how lucky you are to be sitting with such a sexy latina. latinas are very much in touch with their femininity and calling them sexy etc. is not a turn off. just don't be obvious and don't go over-board.
otherwise, be willing to take whatever will go with you in your situation. mexican people are so used to being treated like shit by gringos that they are now of the opinion that most are that way. lean this word: humility. then learn this word: respect. once you give a latina the glimmer of hope that you are for real, you have a chance.
another tip: don't throw money around or talk the "big talk. " don't lay out big-time tips. don't be buying the fucking stuffed animals or roses. (maybe buy one rose on the way out.) if you got money, then good for you. the chica will like that of course, but how she goes about extracting that from you will depend on how you present yourself. if you are humble and not gushing like a bytch to pay for everything including the "best wine in the house, " then she might get the idea that you watch your money carefully (like her) and maybe you do have some common sense after all.
anyway, enough of the ranting. one more note regarding minors: remeber the saying that "if it looks to good to be true then it probably isn't true. " if the girl looks ****, don't touch. move on to someone else. la mesa prison is very crowded right now. i think there are six guys to a cell.
be safe and be nice,
country john
OK CJ,
I always appreciate your info on TJ, but this time you're really scaring a lot of mongers in this board, regarding cops, Mexico laws, prison, mates, minors etc.
Tj is not in war with the tourists, they make great income with the people coming from the U.S and Canada, and believe me they don't give a shit if you're a pretty hansom Brad Pit, or you act like a gentleman, when you're there they know why you're there, and that's what they want very simple everything is money and sex trade, nothing else, when they see you there they see "DOLLARS", that's why you always find girls from ol over Mexico working in TJ.
The nice girls looking for love aren't in the zona, I understand that you have a relation with a TJ girl, but without offense let me ask you, who's paying ol the bills and her expenses? That's my point.
And it's very likely if you ever run out of "DOLLARS"that you sweet latina girl dump you.
The zona in TJ is for sex, I almost got hooked with a nice girl once, and of course she would date me only like a girlfriend, but like any relationship you must be present and pay ol her bills and keep an eye on her 24/7, not me, first I'm not planning in moving to TJ , second if I want a serious relation with a girl, TJ is the last place on earth that I would go, and crime is not any worse than L A.
Minors aren't in the zona, some girls might look younger than 18 but they're not and there's no way for me to find out their real age,if they're working the clubs or the zona streets or the alley they're legal age, somewhere else outside the zona I don't know because I don't go there.
Sorry CJ I have to disagree with you but there's no tourist trap anywhere in the zona and I know it because I always talk to the locals even TJ cops in my fluent native spanish and they never ask me for a dime, the cops have told me they just don't like annoying drunks,weirdos and drug buyers, at longest you're there with a right conduct enjoying yourself with the girls, theres nothing to worry about, of course if you're drunk as hell walking in TJ at 2 am you're a good target for a cop to get money from you.
I hope you understand the red zones, or zonas in Latin America are very likely, these areas are supposed to be dirty against latin culture and you'll find everything from pick pockets to bad cops not only in TJ, but in other latin countries too.
I think is good if we go back to the point what the zona is for and write more about sex trade in TJ and put aside all the love stories and non sense. "NO OFFENSE"
I have been going to TJ for a lot of years and stayed in fleabag hotels and great hotels Zaragoza I must say is one of my Favorites. Chica friendly, fair pricing they have a deluxe room with a kitchenette in it. Taxi $5 to just about anywhere you want to go nearby restraunts. Close to Rev. walk or take a taxi to the zona, the walk is great going there, but after a few cases of booze, taxi is better. For me I have never had any problems, they do have a website, if you go without reservations better get there early.
Happy hunting
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]OK CJ,
I always appreciate your info on TJ, but this time you're really scaring a lot of mongers in this board, regarding cops, Mexico laws, prison, mates, minors etc.
Tj is not in war with the tourists, they make great income with the people coming from the U.S and Canada, and believe me they don't give a shit if you're a pretty hansom Brad Pit, or you act like a gentleman, when you're there they know why you're there, and that's what they want very simple everything is money and sex trade, nothing else, when they see you there they see "DOLLARS", that's why you always find girls from ol over Mexico working in TJ.
The nice girls looking for love aren't in the zona, I understand that you have a relation with a TJ girl, but without offense let me ask you, who's paying ol the bills and her expenses? That's my point.
And it's very likely if you ever run out of "DOLLARS"that you sweet latina girl dump you.
The zona in TJ is for sex, I almost got hooked with a nice girl once, and of course she would date me only like a girlfriend, but like any relationship you must be present and pay ol her bills and keep an eye on her 24/7, not me, first I'm not planning in moving to TJ , second if I want a serious relation with a girl, TJ is the last place on earth that I would go, and crime is not any worse than L A.
Minors aren't in the zona, some girls might look younger than 18 but they're not and there's no way for me to find out their real age,if they're working the clubs or the zona streets or the alley they're legal age, somewhere else outside the zona I don't know because I don't go there.
Sorry CJ I have to disagree with you but there's no tourist trap anywhere in the zona and I know it because I always talk to the locals even TJ cops in my fluent native spanish and they never ask me for a dime, the cops have told me they just don't like annoying drunks,weirdos and drug buyers, at longest you're there with a right conduct enjoying yourself with the girls, theres nothing to worry about, of course if you're drunk as hell walking in TJ at 2 am you're a good target for a cop to get money from you.
I hope you understand the red zones, or zonas in Latin America are very likely, these areas are supposed to be dirty against latin culture and you'll find everything from pick pockets to bad cops not only in TJ, but in other latin countries too.
I think is good if we go back to the point what the zona is for and write more about sex trade in TJ and put aside all the love stories and non sense. "NO OFFENSE"[/QUOTE]
None taken and thanks for your input. I was adressing not the Zona exclusively but things in General. Your experiences might vary of course.
I was sitting in the hHotel Nelson restaurant last night and observed a group of 4 young guys walking through the plaza and returning o the USA. They were stopped by the cops. After the dust cleared, one kid paid $350.00 to get off the hook for being slightly drunk on the condition he leave the country immediately. Don' tell me anything about tourist traps son.
The second group was standing at the light next to the plaza ready to cross when they were stopped by the same group of cops. One was a bit more than drunk and was stupid enough to resist a search. Into the back of the truck he went. He went hard too. Fought the cops every inch of the way.
I talked to his buds after the truck drove off. They were pissed of course and now had to face a Saturday night arguing with the cops and probably paying some money to get their bud out.
So tell me it isn't so, tell me it doesn't happen.
I'm not trying to scare anyone. I live here. If I were so scared I'd move.
I respect everyone's opinion and if your experiecnces are different than mine then that just proves that there are three elements to this: Good luck, Bad Luck and common sense.
Others have similar experiences, some have different ones Your experiences are always wlcomed.
You are quite right: it is ALL about money. It's great that you chat with the cops. Get a business card, learn their name. Get to know them. Because when a group get you at a dis-advantage you might need the connection. The cops don;t want to ruin the wheels of comerce in the Zona, you're quite right about that. You are also quite right that the Zona sees it's share of mis-behaving Americans, just like America does. Justice under Roman Law is swift. But when you are at a disadvantage, when you put yourself in the position of being vulnerable because you have prescription meds without a prescription, an open container, dope or are caught with a minor then the game changes and you know it. That's what I'm talking about.
As far as being neat and clean is concerned, to each his own. I spent last night at El Torito (my new watering hole) and some of the chicas there were stunning. I guess each guy brings his own game. I'm certainly not the fashon police.
One more thing: there ARE minors in the Zona. My girfriends sister "manages" an apartment building in the Zona, IN the Zona. She tells me a lot of stories. Some might be bullshit just like some on this board, but every monger needs to make his own decisions. Nothing wrong with a bit of advice.
Thanks again for your input.
Be safe and be nice.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]None taken and thanks for your input. I was adressing not the Zona exclusively but things in General. Your experiences might vary of course.
I was sitting in the hHotel Nelson restaurant last night and observed a group of 4 young guys walking through the plaza and returning o the USA. They were stopped by the cops. After the dust cleared, one kid paid $350.00 to get off the hook for being slightly drunk on the condition he leave the country immediately. Don' tell me anything about tourist traps son.
The second group was standing at the light next to the plaza ready to cross when they were stopped by the same group of cops. One was a bit more than drunk and was stupid enough to resist a search. Into the back of the truck he went. He went hard too. Fought the cops every inch of the way.
AII talked to his buds after the truck drove off. They were pissed of course and now had to face a Saturday night arguing with the cops and probably paying some money to get their bud out.
So tell me it isn't so, tell me it doesn't happen.
I'm not trying to scare anyone. I live here. If I were so scared I'd move.
I respect everyone's opinion and if your experiecnces are different than mine then that just proves that there are three elements to this: Good luck, Bad Luck and common sense.
Others have similar experiences, some have different ones Your experiences are always wlcomed.
You are quite right: it is ALL about money. It's great that you chat with the cops. Get a business card, learn their name. Get to know them. Because when a group get you at a dis-advantage you might need the connection. The cops don;t want to ruin the wheels of comerce in the Zona, you're quite right about that. You are also quite right that the Zona sees it's share of mis-behaving Americans, just like America does. Justice under Roman Law is swift. But when you are at a disadvantage, when you put yourself in the position of being vulnerable because you have prescription meds without a prescription, an open container, dope or are caught with a minor then the game changes and you know it. That's what I'm talking about.
As far as being neat and clean is concerned, to each his own. I spent last night at El Torito (my new watering hole) and some of the chicas there were stunning. I guess each guy brings his own game. I'm certainly not the fashon police.
One more thing: there ARE minors in the Zona. My girfriends sister "manages" an apartment building in the Zona, IN the Zona. She tells me a lot of stories. Some might be bullshit just like some on this board, but every monger needs to make his own decisions. Nothing wrong with a bit of advice.
Thanks again for your input.
Be safe and be nice.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Thanks CJ, for not taking my input as a personal offense, and excuse any wrong in my English writing, like I said before I'm a latino and English is my second language, so I try to do my best, if you know what I mean.
Now regarding traps or what I call "easy targets" for TJ finest law enforcement, "YES" you're right, but liked you said always the "young and stupid" are good candidates for arrests in TJ, I"ve seen them all the time, especially when these kids are drunk and going in big groups, they just bring too much attention to the cops, so everywhere you go no matter if you're in TJ or somewhere else in the world, you always must act with respect to the locals, in my case I don't live in TJ but I visit often, not an easy task for me because I live 2 1/2 hours away from TJ I have no problem talking to the girls or the locals, I have a perfect 100% spanish, so I can talk a lot of BS with the girls, and like you said you experience might be different, but after dating ol these AB girls and some Alley cats, I found the only way you can get great service is by dating the same girl, or girls over and over, they build up a kind of friendship with you, but you need to know when to stop, or otherwise you can get hooked.
So it doesn't matter how good spanish you can talk if you don't have a fat wallet, the girls in the zona are very aware that most men going to TJ are married, and there's no chance for a girl in TJ to get in a serious relation, only If someone is willing to provide the support they needed, and that includes taking care of her 2 kids back in Guadalajara or else in Mexico getting her a green card, marriage and the whole package, I don't think most mongers here are ready to deal with that, so sex is what most guys here are looking for in TJ.
Dressing nice and clean cut is always a "must" when doing the zona, when I mean dressing nice, I don't mean a fancy suit and tons of jewelry, just dress casual but clean, leave the shorts and the Hawaiian shirt at home if you don't want to look like a clown tourist, I seen some of you there dressing this way.LOL.
The minors thing, I don't really want to go there, but I've seen a bunch of young looking Paraditas on the wall, which It makes me think that if they're there working the Alley, must have the legal age to work, if you do just judge by the "too Young looking" guessing, you could not get an accurate guess, I've seen girls working at the alley looking very young and they always claimed to be 18+, so how can we be sure what's their real age? what are we supposed to look for? old and wrinkle ugly girls?
Again, I Appreciate your comment.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]
So it doesn't matter how good spanish you can talk if you don't have a fat wallet, the girls in the zona are very aware that most men going to TJ are married, and there's no chance for a girl in TJ to get in a serious relation, only If someone is willing to provide the support they needed, and that includes taking care of her 2 kids back in Guadalajara or else in Mexico getting her a green card, marriage and the whole package, I don't think most mongers here are ready to deal with that, so sex is what most guys here are looking for in TJ.
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I agree that you are not going to get laid for free. There is a difference in how you are going to get laid OTOH. If you are being selective, you are going to choose one that turns you on more than the others that evening. I let them know how much they turn me on with no bullshit added about how special they are, etc. I just let them know that they turn me on. It invariably spices up the session. You do have to pay your $20 minimum, however, the experience depends on "what you put into it".
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The minors thing, I don't really want to go there, but I've seen a bunch of young looking Paraditas on the wall, which It makes me think that if they're there working the Alley, must have the legal age to work....
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Yes, all of them are 18 or over. It's just that the Zona does not operate on a Zero Tolerance policy. There maybe some fuzzy logic there, but more or less the girls are of the age they should be. Unless you are really crossing the line, being drunk and underestimating the age a little is not going to kill you, not unless you are unlucky that night. What CJ said about the decoy(s) is quite possible. I saw one that looked obviously young, then I looked closer, and under her denim jacket she was wearing a black T shirt with "stop sign" on it, and a hand raised up. Not exactly an invitation. Now, if you are too drunk, you may overlook the age, and the T shirt, but that could be a serious misstep. Again, I am not 100% sure, but there has to be some street smarts that come into play at some point.
OTOH, there are some sweet gems who must be barely 18 and definitely a consideration, and they do give you the "look." (and the whisper) so I think they are okay.
It all comes down to, as to paraphrase Dirty Harry, "do you feel lucky tonight, punk?"
The Zona, is a great place, I just want to go more often :)
Both of you have valid points. Regarding minors: they are almost always walkers. You won't find them standing in the same place outside of a hotel. They are constantly moving so they won't get stopped by the police. I'm not in any way condoning this, but I know for sure that they do exist, not in large numbers, but they do exist.
So, if you see a girl of questionable age that you happened to meet on some corner, be very wary and ask for proper ID. Or better yet, pass on her, and find someone that you are sure is of legal age. You don't want to get caught up in that sort of thing.
Is it commonplace to ask for proper ID of a SG?
If so, what do these Mexican ID's look like?
Do you ask for it on the street or in the room?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Roguesta]Both of you have valid points. Regarding minors: they are almost always walkers. You won't find them standing in the same place outside of a hotel. They are constantly moving so they won't get stopped by the police. I'm not in any way condoning this, but I know for sure that they do exist, not in large numbers, but they do exist.
So, if you see a girl of questionable age that you happened to meet on some corner, be very wary and ask for proper ID. Or better yet, pass on her, and find someone that you are sure is of legal age. You don't want to get caught up in that sort of thing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IT_Stallion]Is it commonplace to ask for proper ID of a SG?
If so, what do these Mexican ID's look like?
Do you ask for it on the street or in the room?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
You're going to need a lot of luck for a SG to show you ID, I couldn't even get them to show me the medical card, is like they get offended by the question.
That's why I said it might be better to pass if there's any doubt. I think, but I'm not certain, that their health certificate has their date of birth. They'd have to be of age to even get the health certificate.
you can get a sg to show her card if she looks young and thinks she'll lose the deal if she dpesn't show it. most sgs don't want to show you their cards because it has their real name on it - that's what they don't want you to see.
the girls who dress and post in the zona are legal. the illegal girls are walkers and are also hanging around the hotels.
you are big fish if they get you in the room. so stick to the girls who are in uniform in the alley or with the bar girls. (note that rio verde was shut down for a couple of months last year because of employing **** girls and drugs.)
use your head. be safe. be nice.
country john
What areas of TJ would you recommend to find the nice non-hooker TJ girls?
I had a bad experience down in TJ recently, even though I had done some homework by reading lots of these threads.
After crossing the border around noon, I took a cab directly to Adaletias and briefly checked out the place. Then I went to the alley and picked up a pretty young SG. Frankly she was disappointing, especially compared to Costa Rica and the Dom Rep.
Then I decided to just wander around a bit, within a block of the zone. I saw a guy getting frisked by the cops, but I didn't think much of it since I had not been drinking and had no drugs of any kind (even asprin as recommended by this board). Well I was wrong.
Two cops drive up in their car and ask me what I'm doing. I politely responded that I was just walking around the area since this was my first time in TJ. They frisked me and found that I had a couple condoms, a map of the zone and some notes I had taken about the zone. I also had about $150, passport and a check card.
They put me in the car and told me that they now had "evidence" that I was soliciting prostitution and that they were taking me to the police station to go before a judge. I said that prostitution was legal in the zone and that I did not do anything illegal.
The cop said the rules change, and then he asked me if I had cocaine or was looking to buy drugs! Holy crap, I'm a clean cut professional that never takes drugs. But it occurs to me that these cops might try to frame me.
They said that I would be held for 72 hours, unless I paid a bond. Yep, I had to pay the bastards off. Nothing like this has ever happened to me before so please be careful out there.
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[QUOTE=Efjayel]What areas of TJ would you recommend to find the nice non-hooker TJ girls?[/QUOTE]
Oh Lord...... on almost any street corner. But there are many clubs that have civilians - MANY. Start by visitng Las Pulgas on Saturday night around 11PM, then get back to me.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]Oh Lord...... on almost any street corner. But there are many clubs that have civilians - MANY. Start by visitng Las Pulgas on Saturday night around 11PM, then get back to me.
Country John[/QUOTE]
CJ,
How safe for the tourists is Las Pulgas at night if you compared it to the zona bars?
Can I feel safe going here alone at night?
I mean can you walk outside the bar and around the area without getting robbed?
Is this a Mexican bar that plays only Rancheras and Mariachi music?
Last stupid question: Where's Las Pulgas nightclub?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]CJ,
How safe for the tourists is Las Pulgas at night if you compared it to the zona bars?
Can I feel safe going here alone at night?
I mean can you walk outside the bar and around the area without getting robbed?
Is this a Mexican bar that plays only Rancheras and Mariachi music?
Last stupid question: Where's Las Pulgas nightclub?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Las Pulgas is on Revolucion across the street from Jai Alai between 7th and 8th. There are 4 different dance areas inside the club plus they have another area for special performances. The have a live band in the main dance area wed, fri, sat and sun. The music in the club is mostly banda and norteno but they do have dance areas upstairs and downstairs where they play pop, salsa and some cumbia.
I haven't seen very many Americans venture in here. I would guess that the majority of the clientele are 25 to 35 and 99% or greater are latino. I prefer to go on Sunday and Wednesday nights because the ratio of single women to single men seems to be higher. Wednesday night is ladies night so they don't have to pay a cover charge.
As long as you don't get drunk and start problems I wouldn't worry too much about your safety inside the bar. The security is very good and I've only witnessed a few fights over the 4+ years I've been going there. I've never been threatened or harassed by anyone in LP but I have in ZN puta bars including AB.
If you are outside I wouldn't recommend walking away from the general vicinity of LP. Personally I've seen and experienced considerably more problems walking on Revolucion than in the ZN. IMO there are way too many drunk American kids looking for trouble, bar touts, thieves and crazy people on the Rev. Nowadays I never walk on Revolucion between 1st and 7th, I either take a taxi if it's late or I walk up constitucion to 7th street.
Good luck!
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[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]CJ,
How safe for the tourists is Las Pulgas at night if you compared it to the zona bars?
Can I feel safe going here alone at night?
I mean can you walk outside the bar and around the area without getting robbed?
Is this a Mexican bar that plays only Rancheras and Mariachi music?
Last stupid question: Where's Las Pulgas nightclub?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Las pulgas is a civilian nightclub located on South Revolution (about 10 blocks south of the Zona). It is a $2.00 cab ride from the Zona. It is huge. Disco, Banda etc. The live bands are fantastic in the Banda room. They bring in big acts from across Mexico. Bands with 15 to 20 guys in 'em. Very impressive. The sound is excellent and the place jumps with women.
Chicas who are into Ranchero and Banda etc are your hard core Mexicana/Latina babe. These women are absolutely fabulous. They are worth the admission price just to look at them (IMHO).
The disco attracts the younger crown (and some old farts like retired mongers). Many zona girls go there on their nights off. They travel in packs. Las Pulgas used to have a sction open to the street but they've since covered it up with storefront. The disco is loud and gets VERY crowded at around 11PM.
There are a lot of girls in this location. If you got game and know how to behave, you should have NO trouble hooking up at Las Pulgas. Spanish helps, these are the people of Tijuana. Factory workers, students etc. out for night on the town. And do they know how to party.
Being alone anywhere in Mexico is a reason to have your eyes on and your common sense working. Las Pulgas is mostly Spanish. There are waiters who speak English so getting service is no problem. Just be careful and have fun. If you are alone, don't drink too much. (Never drink too much anyway...right?) If you bring a good attitude, you just might find some fabulas chicas smiling at you.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]You can get a SG to show her card if she looks young and thinks she'll lose the deal if she dpesn't show it. Most SGs don't want to show you their cards because it has their real name on it - that's what they don't want you to see.
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That's true. They all (98%) use a fake name. So, they don't want you to see their real name which they guard fiercely. It's even more obvious since they switched to the digital cards with their name and photo obviously displayed. I think they were more willing to flash the old-style paper booklets they used to have.
The girls are required to have the cards with them. I've seen social workers sweep through the Alley checking cards. If you ever see it happening, some girls will quickly slip away if they can. I assume it's usually because they have let their medical examinations expire. I have seen girls taken away during such sweeps.
I don't know if it's true, but a girlfriend at AB told me a few years ago that, if you don't have your ID card you go to jail for a day or pay a $40 fine.
this wednesday afternoon, i made my first trip on foot through the zona norte alley since i returned from ecuador a few weeks back.
i was actually tired of mongering by the time i got back. anyways, i strolled through checking the scenery and poking my head in a few joints.
stood inside hong kong a few minutes, but i wasn't in the mood to sit and suck down their happy hour minimum of two beers for $3.50.
a little further stroll found halfway down the alley asking a short young thing from zacatecas about her services.
she agreed to do anal even after i told her i would pay afterwards only if she performed as agreed.
she actually sucked my cock sin condom which i didn't ask for. she did ask me before doing it if i was clean.
i believe she was pretty knew at selling sex. low and behold, she proceeded to back out of her buttfuck promise.
needless to say, i kept my end of the bargain and told her it's over and she ain't getting paid.
she didn't like that and cursed me, but i was out only $5 for room and not 20 (or more).
so i then left and continued my walk on to the corner and noticed a cute thing smiling at me. i really had wanted to scout about some more (there were plenty of girls out there)
as well as shake off the irritation i felt from the liar a few minute before. at the same time, i wasn't in the mood for all the riff-raff hitting me up for this and that.
the girl said she was 18 and from oaxaca with a child and that she cost 150 pesos. she seemed much friendlier and more sincere than the other girl, esp. about tapping her tailpipe.
well, the rules i laid out were the same so if she's a liar, i was only out another 5 bucks. up we went, paid for the room, and she got her lube like she said.she had.
in the room, her smooth tight body with a tiny bit of babyfat and nice juicy boobs looked great. she lubed both my pecker and her butt and got in doggy like i wanted.
it was wonderful as her perfect pucker below her arched back swallowed my whole damn cock.
flipped her on her back for some shallow assfucking while demanding she spread her cheeks to show me some gape.
the show continued to be great as i went back to puppy position putting the dipstick in and out like in the movies.
it was a rarity that i got to come deep in her ass since i'm often too busy snapping pictures or filming this kind of action.
afterwards, i paid the girl $15 to which she acted confused. after giving her another five, she seem content with all smiles.
she admitted that this wasn't a painful experience and that she can actually orgasm with anal drilling. cool.
we both went downstair happy. i walked about a little more before leaving.
before that though, i actually found another decent looking street girl who would do the pooper for $20.
she at first tried to get it for 50, then 40, but then said okay to 20. this was the case with all my warnings that i won't pay her a red fucking cent if she flaked on me.
well anyways, it wouldn't make any difference then because my nut sacks were drained for the time being but that i was coming back another time tyo fuck her in the ass.
as for those too "cool" isgers who try to imply anal equates homosexuality, i've tried to addressed that notion somewhat humorously in a previous quito post #672,
and then a few more afterwards. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=534438&postcount=672[/url]
i'm sorry that i wasn't able to get any trophy pics this time like the many i've been posting in the quito, ecuador section.
those who enjoy ass action, that is where there is plenty to be found.
bobisee
[quote=bobisee]this wednesday afternoon, i made my first trip on foot through the zona norte alley since i returned from ecuador a few weeks back.
i was actually tired of mongering by the time i got back. anyways, i strolled through checking the scenery and poking my head in a few joints.
stood inside hong kong a few minutes, but i wasn't in the mood to sit and suck down their happy hour minimum of two beers for $3.50.
a little further stroll found halfway down the alley asking a short young thing from zacatecas about her services.
she agreed to do anal even after i told her i would pay afterwards only if she performed as agreed.
she actually sucked my cock sin condom which i didn't ask for. she did ask me before doing it if i was clean.
i believe she was pretty knew at selling sex. low and behold, she proceeded to back out of her buttfuck promise.
needless to say, i kept my end of the bargain and told her it's over and she ain't getting paid.
she didn't like that and cursed me, but i was out only $5 for room and not 20 (or more).
so i then left and continued my walk on to the corner and noticed a cute thing smiling at me. i really had wanted to scout about some more (there were plenty of girls out there)
as well as shake off the irritation i felt from the liar a few minute before. at the same time, i wasn't in the mood for all the riff-raff hitting me up for this and that.
the girl said she was 18 and from oaxaca with a child and that she cost 150 pesos. she seemed much friendlier and more sincere than the other girl, esp. about tapping her tailpipe.
well, the rules i laid out were the same so if she's a liar, i was only out another 5 bucks. up we went, paid for the room, and she got her lube like she said.she had.
in the room, her smooth tight body with a tiny bit of babyfat and nice juicy boobs looked great. she lubed both my pecker and her butt and got in doggy like i wanted.
it was wonderful as her perfect pucker below her arched back swallowed my whole damn cock.
flipped her on her back for some shallow assfucking while demanding she spread her cheeks to show me some gape.
the show continued to be great as i went back to puppy position putting the dipstick in and out like in the movies.
it was a rarity that i got to come deep in her ass since i'm often too busy snapping pictures or filming this kind of action.
afterwards, i paid the girl $15 to which she acted confused. after giving her another five, she seem content with all smiles.
she admitted that this wasn't a painful experience and that she can actually orgasm with anal drilling. cool.
we both went downstair happy. i walked about a little more before leaving.
before that though, i actually found another decent looking street girl who would do the pooper for $20.
she at first tried to get it for 50, then 40, but then said okay to 20. this was the case with all my warnings that i won't pay her a red fucking cent if she flaked on me.
well anyways, it wouldn't make any difference then because my nut sacks were drained for the time being but that i was coming back another time tyo fuck her in the ass.
as for those too "cool" isgers who try to imply anal equates homosexuality, i've tried to addressed that notion somewhat humorously in a previous quito post #672,
and then a few more afterwards. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=534438&postcount=672[/url]
i'm sorry that i wasn't able to get any trophy pics this time like the many i've been posting in the quito, ecuador section.
those who enjoy ass action, that is where there is plenty to be found.
bobisee[/quote]
this is a good tr. my only comment is to assess carefully when the girl goes bad on the deal. getting mad at her or pissing her off might backfire with the wrong girl. that's not to say you should not hold the girl to the deal, of course you should. but if you can settle for a good lay and keep the transaction up-beat then that could work too, especially if the girl is good to go for the session.
always square things up witht he girl. if she changes the deal and you get a blowjob in the process, sqaure up with her. if you were promised anal and got panocha, bbbj etc, then square up with her but tell her you are not happy.
you do not need to have girls talking trash about you in the zona. learn from your experience and move on. remember, these are prostitutes, not members of the chamber of commerce.
i once had a sesson go real bad and i actually tricked the girl into leaving the room after i got my money back from her shoe. when i left the hotel, i has a cop and her boyfriend waiting for me on the sidewalk. she told the cop that i didn't pay her for sex and the boyfriend was not happy. i argued with the cop and told him she was a rob but ended up paying half to her just to keep the peace. when they go bad, they can go very bad. i learned well from this incident. when night falls int he zona, you do not want girls talking trash especially if the boyfriend is around (and many of them are).
another time i had a girl try to double condom me. i got very pissed. she was a young girl and a real looker. i refused the double condom. she got pissed and i had to have an amigo broker a settlement where i paid for the room and the blowjob. it got very loud, and she got a bit ugly but when it was over, we kissed and made up.
each time i felt i had to act to keep the peace.
never pay for bad service, but pay for the service you got. be square with the girls. if you monger in the zona long term, it will help to have a reputation for being fair with the girls, even though your attitude might be that they are just prostitutes and deserve everything they get. if that is the case, remember this: you are fair game too so govern yourself accordingly.
be safe and be nice
country john
[QUOTE=Country John]
I once had a sesson go REAL bad and I actually tricked the girl into leaving the room after I got my money back from her shoe. When I left the hotel, I has a cop and her boyfriend waiting for me on the sidewalk. She told the cop that I didn't pay her for sex and the boyfriend was NOT happy. I argued with the cop and told him she was a ROB but ended up paying half to her just to keep the peace. When they go bad, they can go very bad. I learned well from this incident. When night falls int he Zona, you do not want girls talking trash especially if the boyfriend is around (and many of them are).
Be safe and be nice
Country John[/QUOTE]
Something similar happened to me yesterday with a ROB.
But I'm not a newbie at the zona, and I can certainly sense that something is very wrong lately at the zona, walking the Alley is getting paranoid, not many
mongers walking anymore on the evening, a lot more cops busting tourists,
and and few young SW girls walking around and offering sex but what got my attention is they're offering BBBJCIM, anal, and they speak English?? this is not your everyday services that you get from the Alley girls, again I smell "TRAP"
CJ,
What can you tell this board what really is going on right now in the zona, especially on the Alley and near by streets??
If you Read Falcon 77 post, you can see this is really happening!
After reading Falcon 77 post I found I was in the same normal situation, I was
walking the Alley, like any other monger, carrying some money, U.S passport, about 8 condoms, but no map, is this now illegal?
LOL, solicitation charges in the zona????
FALCON 77 quote=
Two cops drive up in their car and ask me what I'm doing. I politely respondedthat I was just walking around the area since this was my first time in TJ. They frisked me and found that I had a couple condoms, a map of the zone and some notes I had taken about the zone. I also had about $150, passport and a check card.
They put me in the car and told me that they now had "evidence" that I was soliciting prostitution and that they were taking me to the police station to go before a judge. I said that prostitution was legal in the zone and that I did not do anything illegal.
Gentlemen: Right now things are tough right now for everybody in TJ. During the Federal troop takeover, many of the most corrupt (I.E. Cops stopping Americans for briber, er, possible crime?) did not have the opportunity to rob people. Now that they have their toys back, they are in make up mode big time. A lot of the freeflow drug money just isn't there for now, so what's left for them to get that easy shakedown? Oh, yes, us, dumb bastards headed downthere thinking that things are back to normal. Fellows, even during DAYTIME they are harrasing people of different ethnic (White, black, oriental, etc.) orientation. The State Department has issued a traavel warningg for Mexico, to include Tijuana tha does not expire until 15 March 2007. Here is a quote from their website:
"U.S. citizens have also been victims of random shootings on major highways outside of Mexico City, Nuevo Laredo, Tijuana, and other areas throughout Mexico. In recent years, dozens of U.S. citizens have been kidnapped in Nuevo Laredo, with more than two dozen cases still unresolved; recent incidents indicate a possible resurgence of kidnappings for ransom. Mexican police and other government figures have been murdered in Guerrero, Nuevo Leon, the Federal District, Tamaulipas, and other states. Drug cartel members have been known to follow and harass U.S. citizens traveling in their vehicles, particularly in border areas including Nuevo Laredo and Matamoros."
Those on this website or not that take a chance to go downthere, just haven't paid any attention to the news. Times are desperate downthere and bound to get worse. If you go there, understand that you are literally taking a chance on your life. If the State department (Who don't like to post notices of this kind with our neighbors) is telling you to stay away, then the cops, Federales, hookers, anyone you come in contact with have the right to take you for a ride. Personally you won't see me down there ever, until they get their shit together. When is this, I don't know. But I know it is not any time soon.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Something similar happened to me yesterday with a ROB, read my other post!
But I'm not a newbie at the zona, and I can certainly sense that something is very wrong lately at the zona, walking the Alley is getting paranoid, not many
mongers walking anymore on the evening, a lot more cops busting tourists,
and and few young SW girls walking around and offering sex but what got my attention is they're offering BBBJCIM, anal, and they speak English?? this is not your everyday services that you get from the Alley girls, again I smell "TRAP"
CJ,
What can you tell this board what really is going on right now in the zona, especially on the Alley and near by streets??
If you read Falcon 77 post, you can see this is really happening!
After reading Falcon 77 post I found I was in the same normal situation, I was
walking the Alley, like any other monger, carrying some money, U.S passport, about 8 condoms, but no map, is this now illegal?
LOL, solicitation charges in the zona????
FALCON 77 quote=
Two cops drive up in their car and ask me what I'm doing. I politely respondedthat I was just walking around the area since this was my first time in TJ. They frisked me and found that I had a couple condoms, a map of the zone and some notes I had taken about the zone. I also had about $150, passport and a check card.
They put me in the car and told me that they now had "evidence" that I was soliciting prostitution and that they were taking me to the police station to go before a judge. I said that prostitution was legal in the zone and that I did not do anything illegal.[/QUOTE]
OK. Prostitution is not LEGAL in the Zona Norte, it is TOLERATED. This keeps prostitution confined to a manageable area.
The MANAGEMENT of the area is a multi faceted jewel that accomodates business leaders and others who would like to see it GONE and those who are profiting by it.
When the police harass americaos, these "do-gooders" or the supporters for abolishon of the zona think "good, maybe they won't come back." You and I know that's bullshit.
The cops for their part realize that there is little that can be done if they decide to try to intimidate you into parting with some long green. They know that Gringos are easily intimidated by them so they "go for it" when they see an opportunity.
Americanos leave themselves wide open by doing stupid things. For the cops, it like shooting fish in a barrell. The other aspect is that they are out there doing "police work," and it's no secret that there is a major drug problem in TJ and no place in TJ is worse than the Zona Norte. Just BEING THERE exposes the good tourist to all kinds of nasties, and tourists sometimes take stoopid chances.
Like walking around the Zona drawing a map when you can just go to any OXXO and buy one for five bucks. The cops probably want to know what you're up, and when they get you on the stoopid meter at about a "5" they decide what their game will be.
So when tourists get it into their heads that the zona is a procedure as well as a place then things will even out a bit.
Lots of cops got killed over the past several months. That's no secret either. They ARE out there looking for bad guys and sometimes bad guys look like tourists, they don;t know until they check.
Cops know there is more money in the Zona. They talk to the girls. They get paid off by the walkers and "unofficial posters" like gringas to keep off the hot list. They know how much money people are spending, and they know when there is money in town. So the stage is set, and anyone who steps over the ever changing line get's wacked.
Knowing how to handle it is the key, and being alert helps a lot. Something else that helps a lot is not having anything stoopid on you.
Much has been written about croime, safety and the police in TJ and in the Zona in particular. They have a station there because people mis-behave. There are gang of therse guys who suppliment their income by intimidating tourists. The tourist needs to have his wits about him, not do anything stoopid, not stray out of the Zona and behave.
If you do that and co-operate when they ask to search you, if you are courteous but firm, if you are not an asshole, if you don;t dress like a member of the cripps gang or a thug then you'll be fine. Common sense is the watch term here. Nothing more and nothing less.
Things havn't "changed" so much as they might have gotten a bit more intense.
Be safe and Be Nice
Country John
[quote=falcon77]i had a bad experience down in tj recently, even though i had done some homework by reading lots of these threads.
after crossing the border around noon, i took a cab directly to adaletias and briefly checked out the place. then i went to the alley and picked up a pretty young sg. frankly she was disappointing, especially compared to costa rica and the dom rep.
then i decided to just wander around a bit, within a block of the zone. i saw a guy getting frisked by the cops, but i didn't think much of it since i had not been drinking and had no drugs of any kind (even asprin as recommended by this board). well i was wrong.
two cops drive up in their car and ask me what i'm doing. i politely responded that i was just walking around the area since this was my first time in tj. they frisked me and found that i had a couple condoms, a map of the zone and some notes i had taken about the zone. i also had about $150, passport and a check card.
they put me in the car and told me that they now had "evidence" that i was soliciting prostitution and that they were taking me to the police station to go before a judge. i said that prostitution was legal in the zone and that i did not do anything illegal.
the cop said the rules change, and then he asked me if i had cocaine or was looking to buy drugs! holy crap, i'm a clean cut professional that never takes drugs - but it occurs to me that these cops might try to frame me.
they said that i would be held for 72 hours, unless i paid a bond. yep, i had to pay the bastards off. nothing like this has ever happened to me before so please be careful out there.
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well, i know things are really getting bad if clean cut professional guys are getting frisked and shaken down in the middle of the day. i know all about the increased police presence, and the whole mood in tj seems more tense to me (more cops, more checkpoints, fewer people, less fun) than it usually is, but this is getting a bit ridiculous.
falcon77, can you give us a few more details on what happened? were you taken to the station? did they threaten to take you in front of the judge? what did you end up paying to the cops?
detaining somebody for having condoms and soliciting prostitution in tj makes about as much sense as handing out speeding tickets at the indy 500, but i guess this is the new reality in tj and for those of us who want to keep going there we will have to learn to live with it. thanks for posting this report as it will surely help others avoid a similar situation.
blue nose
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Gentlemen: Right now things are tough right now for everybody in TJ. During the Federal troop takeover, many of the most corrupt (I.E. Cops stopping Americans for briber, er, possible crime?) did not have the opportunity to rob people. Now that they have their toys back, they are in make up mode big time. A lot of the freeflow drug money just isn't there for now, so what's left for them to get that easy shakedown? Oh, yes, us, dumb bastards headed downthere thinking that things are back to normal. Fellows, even during DAYTIME they are harrasing people of different ethnic (White, black, oriental, etc.) orientation. The State Department has issued a traavel warningg for Mexico, to include Tijuana tha does not expire until 15 March 2007. Here is a quote from their website:
"U.S. citizens have also been victims of random shootings on major highways outside of Mexico City, Nuevo Laredo, Tijuana, and other areas throughout Mexico. In recent years, dozens of U.S. citizens have been kidnapped in Nuevo Laredo, with more than two dozen cases still unresolved; recent incidents indicate a possible resurgence of kidnappings for ransom. Mexican police and other government figures have been murdered in Guerrero, Nuevo Leon, the Federal District, Tamaulipas, and other states. Drug cartel members have been known to follow and harass U.S. citizens traveling in their vehicles, particularly in border areas including Nuevo Laredo and Matamoros."
Those on this website or not that take a chance to go downthere, just haven't paid any attention to the news. Times are desperate downthere and bound to get worse. If you go there, understand that you are literally taking a chance on your life. If the State department (Who don't like to post notices of this kind with our neighbors) is telling you to stay away, then the cops, Federales, hookers, anyone you come in contact with have the right to take you for a ride. Personally you won't see me down there ever, until they get their shit together. When is this, I don't know. But I know it is not any time soon.[/QUOTE]
This post makes a lot of sense to me, I knew something was very wrong lately in TJ, especially in the ZONA, I've never seen so many Americans getting stop by the cops on foot or car, I'm a frequent visitor to the ZONA, and watching so many clean cut guys getting harass by TJ cops during daytime it just didn't look right to me, it has nothing to do of someone acting stupid or if you're drunk, the cops are harassing everyone, including good people.
What happened to Falcon77, is police abuse no doubt, I walked the Alley many times before, and couldn't imaging getting arrested for solicitation charges, what a bunch of BS!
I guess the drug money isn't there at the moment, and they need to get it somewhere, so I'll wait till things come back to normal before going back there. If you're traveling anywhere else in TJ like Zona Rio, you'll be OK,
but avoid going to the Zona Norte where the girls are, there's where I saw all the shakedowns.
Was there on Wednesday night and I saw alot of drama, more than I have ever seen in many years. I went straight from the taxi to ABs and along the ride I saw some serious shit. One cop had this gringo face down pointing a gun at him and right around the corner from that, I saw three Americans in handcuffs, as they towed their car away. Once I was at ABs I was getting some serious stares from the cops outside. Finally went upstairs with some hottie from Acapulco but when I came back downstairs a cop started yelling at me. Fortunately, the girl I was with started saying something to the cop and he backed off. I asked the girl what the hell that was about and she told me that ever since the cops got their guns back they've been going after Americans in retaliation to the fact that the US government is behind the extermination of "mafiosos". She told me that I was crazy to be in TJ because it is very dangerous time for Americans. I won't be going down anytime soon and I believe that this is just the tip of the iceberg. When the State Department issues a warning it means that things are not safe for Americans. Be VERY careful my fellow mongers!
[QUOTE=Mutha Foo]Was there on Wednesday night and I saw alot of drama, more than I have ever seen in many years. I went straight from the taxi to ABs and along the ride I saw some serious shit. One cop had this gringo face down pointing a gun at him and right around the corner from that, I saw three Americans in handcuffs, as they towed their car away. Once I was at ABs I was getting some serious stares from the cops outside. Finally went upstairs with some hottie from Acapulco but when I came back downstairs a cop started yelling at me. Fortunately, the girl I was with started saying something to the cop and he backed off. I asked the girl what the hell that was about and she told me that ever since the cops got their guns back they've been going after Americans in retaliation to the fact that the US government is behind the extermination of "mafiosos". She told me that I was crazy to be in TJ because it is very dangerous time for Americans. I won't be going down anytime soon and I believe that this is just the tip of the iceberg. When the State Department issues a warning it means that things are not safe for Americans. Be VERY careful my fellow mongers![/QUOTE]
Thank you!
So I wasn't imaging things?
There's something going on there, and I was in AB last Thursday.
Nuff said!
Don't go overboard. A guy face down on the ground with a gun pointed at his head is not someone with a pocketful of viagra. Don't jump to conclusions. Threre is probably more to the story.
I've walked the Zona with my girlfriend a lot over the past few weeks, both at night and during the day. I walked past groups of cops, past the police station, I've driven my car aound there etc and nothing happened.
Don't jump to conclusions. Just because someone saw a lot of police activity doesn't mean anything other than that they are a bit busier. I don't buy the story that they blame the usa for losing their weapons.
There is never an excuse to misbehave or let your guard down in the Zona. It is now and has always been a dangerous place. Co-operate and be on your way. Resist or be stoopid and spend the night in jail. Some things never change. You need to develop a mechanism for dealing with the situation.
Country John
It's funny how we all have different perceptions. I live only a few blocks from Zona Norte, and I am there everyday. I haven't noticed anything different.
CJ,
Is very likely that police knows that you're a local, they know who's visiting the Zona and who's not, they might saw you car before, and they're not interested
in people that lives in TJ, the cops are targeting new faces, I can be months
without going to the Zona, and when I go back the people working at AB remember me, same with the waiter, and the cum boys at the hotel, and not seeing anything different doesn't mean everything is alright.
And I don't agree that TJ cops are only giving a hard time to the stupid and the drunk, that's not always the case, I know good clean people that went to the Zona and got harassed by the pigs.
One thing is certain, there is never a shortage of rumors about TJ.
Things there are always in a state of flux, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see a steady drift of less tourists since 9/11. I suspect times are pretty tight for many that used to be comfortable catering to tourists. Just look at all the places that have closed.
In the short term I believe whatever is going on is in response to pressures that are almost entirely local, that is to say Mexican. It's rare to find anyone on these types of boards that have accurate insight into what's really going on. Right now there is clearly some kind of political stress between the Feds (the newly elected president) and the Hank people (just announced for governor of baja). The different le organizations are their tools. Various groups (business, unions, drug cartels, etc.) are all jockeying for power/influence. I can't sort out all that means in my own country. How much of what goes on in the street is on orders, and how much is just individual opportunism is the result of forces us gringos just don't have any visiblity on.
Another thing that's certain, money talks. As long as we bring money, someone is going to want us to keep coming. Bad cops are bad for business.
I was in the Zona at the end of November, and as I turned the corner, I saw two white people with their arms spread on top of the car and legs spred. The cops took their time shaking them down. The whole scene seemed ridiculous. I was only in TJ for two hours or so and ran into this scene, then returned back into the US. I never stay overnight in TJ anymore, not for a couple of years.
Things have been intense before the army moved in it seems.
In fact, I was enjoying the streets mostly to myself, with only a few dozen potential customers milling about. It seemed like a good thing, having all those women available to choose from. I guess, if things were back to normal, there would be a lot more johns around too. Take the good with the bad, I guess.
2 years ago. I made 4 trips to TJ. Fly into vegas rent a car and make the 5 hour trip to tj. Had trips good and bad but on my last trip as I went thur the customs to have my id checked (no pass port need then) the guy checking started with all this shit about what I was doing and tried to make me out like I was doing something wrong and I was a piece of shit. I knew then that would be my last trip. And it was, I have found Costa Rica and for now its great and have no problems (I am sure that will change in the years to come) but as I read all the reports from TJ. Its the last place I would go. I was pulled over in a cab. The cops got (I think 10 dollars from the driver) and in my best trying to make out what the cops were saying in spanish, they were thinking about doing the same to me, but they got in the cop car and took off and the driver said "you were lucky they had to go"
[QUOTE=ChiliMike]2 years ago ...i made 4 trips to tj...fly into vegas rent a car and make the 5 hour trip to tj...had trips good and bad but on my last trip as i went thur the customs to have my id checked (no pass port need then) the guy checking started with all this shit about what i was doing and tried to make me out like i was doing something wrong and i was a piece of shit...i knew then that would be my last trip...and it was , i have found costa rica and for now its great and have no problems (i am sure that will change in the years to come) but as i read all the reports from tj...its the last place i would go ...i was pulled over in a cab....the cops got (i think 10 dollars from the driver ) and in my best trying to make out what the cops were saying in spanish , they were thinking about doing the same to me, but they got in the cop car and took off and the driver said "you were lucky they had to go"[/QUOTE]
Mike, when the border guys ask me what I was doing in TJ, I look them straight in the eye and say - "getting drunk and getting laid". They NEVER give me a hassle after that, because they know I am telling the truth. The U.S. border guys are NOT a problem - they are simply doing their jobs. The Mexican cops, on the other hand, ARE a problem.
[QUOTE=Country John]This is a good TR. My only comment is to assess carefully when the girl goes bad on the deal. Getting mad at her or pissing her off might backfire with the wrong girl. . .. . [/QUOTE]Thanks Country John - that is a good comment to keep in mind. With these types of situations, things can escalate into something potentially dangerous. It's best to keep ones cool before things get out of hand. Fortunately for me, this girl was a 1st time FOB (fresh of the boat) from the south and new to the area. I guess it would've been somewhat fair to kick her down some cash for whatever services she already provided. The better my spanish gets, the more clear and adament I'll be able to assert my expectations with fewer potential "misunderstandings". In general though, most of the girls don't want a hassle anymore than we do.
Bobisee
Read the section under Border Cities.
[url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Bobisee]Thanks Country John - that is a good comment to keep in mind. With these types of situations, things can escalate into something potentially dangerous. It's best to keep ones cool before things get out of hand. Fortunately for me, this girl was a 1st time FOB (fresh of the boat) from the south and new to the area. I guess it would've been somewhat fair to kick her down some cash for whatever services she already provided. The better my spanish gets, the more clear and adament I'll be able to assert my expectations with fewer potential "misunderstandings". In general though, most of the girls don't want a hassle anymore than we do.
Bobisee[/QUOTE]
Correct. Getting into their head and trying to understand where they are at as human beings helps a lot too. Sure, you're there to fuck them and they are there to fuck you but they come from a very different set of circumstances, they have different problems, different lives.
Mongers enter their lives for a brief moment, have intimate sexual relations with them, give them money then leave. Mongers can find lots to dislike about the process and so can the girls; bad press notwithstanding.
I'm not suggesting that you psychoanalyze anyone, just imagine where they are at. when you can understand them a bit better, it makles the whole experience better - trust me. I've had excellent relationships with repeat girls in the alley and in AB. Lucky for me I've had many TLN's and the opportunity to chat with them and listen to their bullshit. Some stuff rings true of course.
Never get angry with the girl. You will not win and it doesn't matter anyway. You don;t want the girls to have a bad perception at one end of the bock or the other. You are there to get laid and enjoy the experience.
About the cops: There are many bad ones out there, that's no secret. Some people are highly offended by the standard routine encounter with the cops. You're not in Orange County anymore son. You're in MEXICO. Things run a bit differently here.
Let's look at this a bit closer. They got red flashing lights, marked police cars, guns, badges and sometimes a shitty attitude. You got nothin'. Nothing except the knowledge that all the lights, badges and guns can't make someone guilty of something that they are NOT guitly of. All the marked police cars and bad attitudes can't make someone who is NOT wrong, wrong about anything.
The guy getting frisked is simply getting frisked. If he's not stoopid, he'll be on his way none the worse for the experience. The cops have the authority to stop who they want whenever they want for any reason. WHy not embrace that and co-operate -accept it as part of the game?
The game goes bad if you are riding dirty then you have a problem, but that's not the cops fault, he caught you-right? So don't be riding dirty. Develop a mechanism.
The military is there right now assisting TJPD in running down some bad guys. The word is that they are doing a good job. You might not see it, but it's true. TJPD wants to impress the powers that be that they are doing more and so the higher profile.
If you go to TJ expecting the worst, then you'll probably pull it in. If you get stopped for "felony leaving the Zona," then PLAY THE GAME. BE CO-OPERATIVE, get the guy to the point of knowing that he got nothing on you as fast as you can. Do it by being Mr. Co-operative. With every effort to resist, even subtle gestures like a look of disgust, they go deeper looking for an opportunity. Be glad to see them!
I watch guys getting stopped all the time. Remember that cops are very much into "inspection BEFORE the fact." This means that you MIGHT be bait. But you might not be. Get the guy to the point of realizing he has nothing as quickly as possible by meaning polite, co-operative but firm. I realize it's hard to understand this, but it works and it is the truth.
I can't negate your bad experiences with the cops. Nobody can. 99.999% of them are the result of turning control of the situation over to the cops and it's no secret that they have very bad manners. They are used to dealing with disgruntled Americans who hate them and think they are crooks etc. That might be true, but you don;t have to be one of them.
A burglar will break into an unsecured property before attempting to break into a secured one. TJPD is the same. Once they realize you're are going to tumble for them, they go to work. Don't give them that opportunity.
There is no way to keep from being stopped, so expect that it will happen at some point. It's how YOU handle it that will determine the outcome. You already know the cops will try to play you. You know that going in. You know that when you cross the border. Why havn't you developed a mechanism for dealing with it?
Mongers who visit the Zona to pay for sex with prostitutes are NOT "tourists" as defined by the Chamber of Commerce. Plain and simple. You know it and I know it. So do the cops. Very few "tourists" are hassled (tourists who strut Revo with the family buying stuff etc.). Sure there are exceptions, but the ratio is probably 1000:1 with Mongers.
Mongers who visit the zona for sex with prostitutes might be there for another reason too. Maybe drugs, maybe weapons. Tell me that the Zona is clear of this stuff, go ahead; make my day.
Go there, have a good time then leave. Be smart mongers. Be nice guys. Don;t be riding dirty and develop a mechanism for dealing with the cops who, like the girls in the Zona, are a fact of life.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]
Mongers who visit the Zona to pay for sex with prostitutes are NOT "tourists" as defined by the Chamber of Commerce. Plain and simple. You know it and I know it. So do the cops. Very few "tourists" are hassled (tourists who strut Revo with the family buying stuff etc.). Sure there are exceptions, but the ratio is probably 1000:1 with Mongers.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Let's see the two sides of the coin!
Us mongers not tourists?
If wasn't for us TJ would be like the border limit with Guatemala, just another empty border without tourist money.
How can TJ survive without the mongers?
So they said that us mongers aren't tourists, so WTF are we? "Illegal Aliens"
where do the bars, business, farmacias and restaurants get most of their incomes?
Tj is not and never was a family vacation destination for shopping, or to go to it beautiful and contaminated beaches, but certainly is a great place for adult entertainment,The Chamber of Commerce needs to do more work about claiming the sex mongers aren't tourists.
If you're a foreigner coming legal into the country and expending money you suppose to be a "tourist" Duhhh!!!!
Does TJ need toursits at all? With the maquiladoras and NAFTA, there are factories to keep the locals employed. They maybe low wage earners, but they seem to have more options available to them today then years ago.
Is tourism such a large part of the city's income? I doubt it. There are many more picturesque places in Mexico to spend your vacation. Other than for business or for women, why would you visit? If you have relatives of course.
Then there is the fact that many Mexicans who work in the US legally or otherwise, send money back to Mexico. This isn't South America. It's hard to beat the $7 Colombiana hookers in Quito, or the $30 Colombianas in Panama, in both price and attitude.
In the meantime, there is TJ.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Let's see the two sides of the coin!
Us mongers not tourists?
If wasn't for us TJ would be like the border limit with Guatemala, just another empty border without tourist money.
How can TJ survive without the mongers?
So they said that us mongers aren't tourists, so WTF are we? "Illegal Aliens"
where do the bars, business, farmacias and restaurants get most of their incomes?
Tj is not and never was a family vacation destination for shopping, or to go to it beautiful and contaminated beaches, but certainly is a great place for adult entertainment,The Chamber of Commerce needs to do more work about claiming the sex mongers aren't tourists.
If you're a foreigner coming legal into the country and expending money you suppose to be a "tourist" Duhhh!!!![/QUOTE]
Mate, you're not expecting any of us here to buy into the notion that mongers are "touists" in the normal sense of the word, are you? Certainly a monger travels for pleasure and culture but the zona is not exactly a "tourist" attraction. How much of your money actually contributes to the economy of TJ? Yes, lots of money passes through the Zona. Yes, it is mostly american money but very little of it finds its way into the coffers of the government of TJ.
Let's see: the Zona is a place full of deported criminals, drugs, prostitutes, bars mongers. That's not exactly Disneyland.
The cops know that a great percentage of the people in the Zona are shopping for something other than sex.
Do you know how many cars were impounded incidental to sex crimes in TJ in the last 6 months? How does zero sound. Check the stats for your city or county.
Most of the income at the farmacias comes from elderly Americans buying their medications in Mexico, and others who have expensive prescription medicine issues. Nobody here actually believes that mongers keep these establishments in business. Do they?
I'm driving back from Soler today on the Via Rapida to Los Pinos and in front of me is a new van with California plates. Out the window in the drivers side comes a large McDonald's bag full of trash, almost bounced off my windshield.
If you read the papers, you'll know that TJ is about to begin building a very large, modern sewage treatment plant.
It's no secret that sex sells. I'm by no means "anti-Zona." But coming to a different country and going to one of the most dangerous places in Tijuana carries with it a certain amount of risk for the "tourist." When you step into the Zona you match a profile that is made up of possible druggies, pimps, pushers, and who knows what else. Americans do not get a free pass from this shit and it's arrogant to expect it, or to expect to be treated differently because you are American.
Some of the most violent criminals in Amercia were some of the cleanest cut guys out there. So everybody gets a turn on the trunk, spread-eagle. It's like a box of chocolates.
What we are dealing with here is the advantage TJPD has over the unprepared "tourist." The result of the disadvantage is loss of cash and the unjust enrichment of some crooked cops. Don;t expect the chamber of commerce to come rushing to the Zona to save you. You need to get smart about it yourself and develop a mechanism for dealing with it. Failing that, just bring some extra cash or stay home. There are plenty of noobies here every weekend to take your place.
The Zona is a place where you WILL NOT be missed. So if you like to come here, learn well what to expect and how to deal with it. The prostitutes don't care, the padrotes don't care, the clubs don't care and the cops don't care. That's the reality of it. So rather than debate what should be and what shouldn't be, it's better to bone up on what IS and then deal with that. Don't you agree?
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]Mate, you're not expecting any of us here to buy into the notion that mongers are "touists" in the normal sense of the word, are you? Certainly a monger travels for pleasure and culture but the zona is not exactly a "tourist" attraction. How much of your money actually contributes to the economy of TJ? Yes, lots of money passes through the Zona. Yes, it is mostly american money but very little of it finds its way into the coffers of the government of TJ.
Let's see: the Zona is a place full of deported criminals, drugs, prostitutes, bars mongers. That's not exactly Disneyland.
The cops know that a great percentage of the people in the Zona are shopping for something other than sex.
Do you know how many cars were impounded incidental to sex crimes in TJ in the last 6 months? How does zero sound. Check the stats for your city or county.
Most of the income at the farmacias comes from elderly Americans buying their medications in Mexico, and others who have expensive prescription medicine issues. Nobody here actually believes that mongers keep these establishments in business. Do they?
I'm driving back from Soler today on the Via Rapida to Los Pinos and in front of me is a new van with California plates. Out the window in the drivers side comes a large McDonald's bag full of trash, almost bounced off my windshield.
If you read the papers, you'll know that TJ is about to begin building a very large, modern sewage treatment plant.
It's no secret that sex sells. I'm by no means "anti-Zona." But coming to a different country and going to one of the most dangerous places in Tijuana carries with it a certain amount of risk for the "tourist." When you step into the Zona you match a profile that is made up of possible druggies, pimps, pushers, and who knows what else. Americans do not get a free pass from this shit and it's arrogant to expect it, or to expect to be treated differently because you are American.
Some of the most violent criminals in Amercia were some of the cleanest cut guys out there. So everybody gets a turn on the trunk, spread-eagle. It's like a box of chocolates.
What we are dealing with here is the advantage TJPD has over the unprepared "tourist." The result of the disadvantage is loss of cash and the unjust enrichment of some crooked cops. Don;t expect the chamber of commerce to come rushing to the Zona to save you. You need to get smart about it yourself and develop a mechanism for dealing with it. Failing that, just bring some extra cash or stay home. There are plenty of noobies here every weekend to take your place.
The Zona is a place where you WILL NOT be missed. So if you like to come here, learn well what to expect and how to deal with it. The prostitutes don't care, the padrotes don't care, the clubs don't care and the cops don't care. That's the reality of it. So rather than debate what should be and what shouldn't be, it's better to bone up on what IS and then deal with that. Don't you agree?
Country John[/QUOTE]
I agree in part,
But come on don't tell me that the TJ government don't get money from the Zona sex and the drugs, you know everyones gets a piece of the pie, they know it's big business.
If you really think that TJ government is not taking any part of it, you must be living in another country, all the clubs, restaurants, transportation services have to pay to the government to stay in business one way or the other,
and it happens ol over the world, the money goes under the table.
most American dollars end up at the zona, you can believe different if you like.
Now can TJ survive without the mongers? of course they can, but the poverty rate would be much bigger, and yes the people of the zona do care if the mongers are not coming, go ask the girls and waiters when they all complain about low tourism coming to the area, there's a lot of people that you don't see everyday that benefits from us including government officials.
if everything was so wonderful in Mexico I guess we wouldn't have an immigration issue in the US.
I was told in the zona about the massage homes, where you go in and line up the girls for pick up, does anyone had any experience there lately?
How would you rate the girls looks 1-10?
a guy in TJ told me you can find gems in these places silicone free, but I want to find out more info, including the place name and the location in the Zona.
I'm looking to pay about same as AB and little more if the service is good with GFE, just tired of the same AB in-out rush service and the mechanical alley cats.
I want something different in a quiet environment without the bells and whistles.
Appreciate any info.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I was told in the zona about the massage homes, where you go in and line up the girls for pick up, does anyone had any experience there lately?
How would you rate the girls looks 1-10?
a guy in TJ told me you can find gems in these places silicone free, but I want to find out more info, including the place name and the location in the Zona.
I'm looking to pay about same as AB and little more if the service is good with GFE, just tired of the same AB in-out rush service and the mechanical alley cats.
I want something different in a quiet environment without the bells and whistles.
Appreciate any info.[/QUOTE]
They are called CASETAS.
NEVER go to a Caseta unless you know the house, know the people etc. You could be setting yourself up big time. Never go anywhere based on what "a guy in TJ" told you. You MUST KNOW who you are delaing with. Stick to the Zona. Casetas are VERY dangerous.
I do live in Mexico. I've been here for a year and a half and I've been doing business here for the past 15 years. I own two business here and I'm setting up a third. I understand very well how "things" work here. You are quite right. Payola is big time. BIG TIME. But not everywhere. I've yet to pay anyone off. My busineses are not high profile or high risk. There are those that are, like Adelitas and Chicago club for example. The government would never "tolerate" prostitution int he Zona if it were not for the payoffs. You're quite right about that.
But you are wrong to think that mongering is a major component of the revenue stream in Tijuana. That's just plain wrong. If you were to look under the hood here you'd see much industry, there's a lot going on here. And it's going to grow rapidly over the next ten years. Some of it might be monger money but don't fool yourself, it's a minor part. The drug trade is much bigger than mongering will ever be.
I understand why you believe what you do. I'm sitting in the middle of it however and my experience is quite different from yours. There are many fine hard working people here. There are many prosperous busineses here. There is much that happens outside the Zona. The Zona is not the center of the universe in TJ, far from it. There are people who have never been to the Zona.
Of course the government gets a piece of the pie, just like the USA which is right up there on the corruption scale. You should spend some time here. Get to know some people outside the Zona, see what business is doing here.
Most american dollars do not end up in the Zona. Most of it is being invested in real estate and construction. Even more in business ventures like manufacturing etc. Cities like Monterrey, Tijuana, Mexicali have enormous American investments. The zona is a drop in the bucket. In the big picture, it might not even show up on radar.
The Zona is a cash cow for the club owners and the dirty politicians, not to mention the cops who get to go through your pockets on the way home, which is what these posts are really about.
Be careful not to over-estimate your importance as a monger to the economy of Tijuana. If it were such a big deal, you'd have police escorts from the border to the Zona and back again. Instead, you are set up as fair game for the dirty cop who would rob you of your last $20. before you cross the border. That ought to tell you something.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]They are called CASETAS.
NEVER go to a Caseta unless you know the house, know the people etc. You could be setting yourself up big time. Never go anywhere based on what "a guy in TJ" told you. You MUST KNOW who you are delaing with. Stick to the Zona. Casetas are VERY dangerous.
I do live in Mexico. I've been here for a year and a half and I've been doing business here for the past 15 years. I own two business here and I'm setting up a third. I understand very well how "things" work here. You are quite right. Payola is big time. BIG TIME. But not everywhere. I've yet to pay anyone off. My busineses are not high profile or high risk. There are those that are, like Adelitas and Chicago club for example. The government would never "tolerate" prostitution int he Zona if it were not for the payoffs. You're quite right about that.
But you are wrong to think that mongering is a major component of the revenue stream in Tijuana. That's just plain wrong. If you were to look under the hood here you'd see much industry, there's a lot going on here. And it's going to grow rapidly over the next ten years. Some of it might be monger money but don't fool yourself, it's a minor part. The drug trade is much bigger than mongering will ever be.
I understand why you believe what you do. I'm sitting in the middle of it however and my experience is quite different from yours. There are many fine hard working people here. There are many prosperous busineses here. There is much that happens outside the Zona. The Zona is not the center of the universe in TJ, far from it. There are people who have never been to the Zona.
Of course the government gets a piece of the pie, just like the USA which is right up there on the corruption scale. You should spend some time here. Get to know some people outside the Zona, see what business is doing here.
Most american dollars do not end up in the Zona. Most of it is being invested in real estate and construction. Even more in business ventures like manufacturing etc. Cities like Monterrey, Tijuana, Mexicali have enormous American investments. The zona is a drop in the bucket. In the big picture, it might not even show up on radar.
The Zona is a cash cow for the club owners and the dirty politicians, not to mention the cops who get to go through your pockets on the way home, which is what these posts are really about.
Be careful not to over-estimate your importance as a monger to the economy of Tijuana. If it were such a big deal, you'd have police escorts from the border to the Zona and back again. Instead, you are set up as fair game for the dirty cop who would rob you of your last $20. before you cross the border. That ought to tell you something.
Country John[/QUOTE]
CJ,
You pretty much said it ol, thanks for you input.
About the casetas, can you explain in more details what can go wrong in these places?
And what MP would you recomend, not a caseta?
I once read a post about CHEATERS, do you know this place, or maybe a better one.
Thanks.
Someone asked a couple questions regarding my post from a week ago that recaped my bad experience with a couple crooked cops.
After putting me in their police car they said they were taking me to the police station to go before a judge since they had "evidence" that I intended to solicit prostitution. I was very polite and respectful throughout this whole experience. They said I could be held for 72 hours. They said the judge might let me post a bond and that I could call an attorney at the police station.
I had no idea if any of this was true, but I felt that they had me by the balls, especially since I had a flight to catch later in the evening. They stopped just short of the police station and one cop asked me if there was any cocaine in the $20 bills that I had. WTF, now I was getting very concerned about possible being framed for drugs.
I know some guys will criticize me for not "pushing back", but I did not want to go before some TJ judge with an uncertain outcome. For all I know, the judge may be just as dirty as the cops.
I do not live in So CA and I can just as easily go elsewhere to monger. CR and SXM do not have the nearly the drug, gun and dirty cop problems so TJ is just not worth the potential hassle to me.
I think my experience is probably a case of bad luck for the most part, but it did happen in spite of my efforts to be cautious, so just be extra careful in TJ.
Does anyone know if Sara at Bar Tropical is coming back? I haven't seen her since July. She is morena with large silicone breasts and a great ass. She strips sometimes and is high mileage.
[QUOTE=Country John]They are called CASETAS.
NEVER go to a Caseta unless you know the house, know the people etc. You could be setting yourself up big time. Never go anywhere based on what "a guy in TJ" told you. You MUST KNOW who you are delaing with. Stick to the Zona. Casetas are VERY dangerous.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Actually they're called casas de citas. A caseta is something else.
What's so bad about the casas the cita or casetas?
I thought this was a MP, where you can choose the girl from the line up?
Can someone provide me with more info?
How's the girl selection in these places?
Are the girls average looking?
GFE?
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]What's so bad about the casas the cita or casetas?
I thought this was a MP, where you can choose the girl from the line up?
Can someone provide me with more info?
How's the girl selection in these places?
Are the girls average looking?
GFE?[/QUOTE]
I stand corrected.... "casas de cita."
The problem is that you never know what you're walking into. A guy says "Heyyy man, I got for you dees yoing chics all you have to do is go to the house man...$30.00 for one hour, $50.00 for two hours man..."
So you go, and when you walk in you get clubbed over the head with a baseball bat. All your stuff gets ripped and who knows where you end up.
Some might say this never happens. It happed to a friend of mine. He was badly beaten. Lost everything he had on him. He was lured to a hotel room where two guys were waiting for him.
Now you might not be this unfortunate. It might be all "blue skys" with the girl of your dreams waiting for you to make passionate love for pennies on the dollar. Maybe. Do you feel lucky?
Don't take chances like this in the Zona, in Los Angeles, San Francisco or anywhere else. Go with what you know and be safe.
I want everyone to have a good time. Everyone should have a positive experience with these beautiful girls. But don't go stoopid. Be Safe.
Country John
Revision:
Look, I don't want to "chicken little" on anyone here. I'm trying to keep it real. There are members who've had positive experiences at these places, they should chime in accordingly and then take the particulars to PM.
TJ is dangerous. Embrace the notion and take the steps needed to ensure your safety. OK??? OK.
Now Is Not The Time To Meet Girls At The Border Incidental To Escort Appointments.
I'm pretty sure they exists, though I haven't used those services.
There are our more local forums I think that address better such topics.
Tijuana Blog, Tijuana Amigo, etc have info I think.
I've seen "massage parlors" and similiar places around 7th & 8th between F.M. Martinez and Revolution.
I'll bet there are many other as well spread about the city.
[QUOTE=Bobisee]I'm pretty sure they exists, though I haven't used those services.
There are our more local forums I think that address better such topics.
Tijuana Blog, Tijuana Amigo, etc have info I think.
I've seen "massage parlors" and similiar places around 7th & 8th between F.M. Martinez and Revolution.
I'll bet there are many other as well spread about the city.[/QUOTE]
There are, and quite a few of them are in la zona. The problem with them is that the prices are high and the service is generally bad. You pay the house fee, get a crappy, rushed massage and then overpriced full service. Why not just go to AB or CC and get essentially the same thing, for less money?
If you do want to use these places, I would recommend that, at least until you have more experience, you buy the "package" up front. This means you pay a flat fee for everything and no negotiating in the hroom. La Campamiento spa (spelling?) behind Bar La Tropa offers such a package.
If you just want a massage, try Azteca Massage on Revolucion - good masaage, but completely non sexual. For the other types of massages YMMV in the parlors, but most people on this forum (self included) report bad experiences with them. That being said, I have never tried a casa de cita.
Blue Nose
I knew I would be in San Diego area 2 or 3 Fridays ago. For once in my life I decided to plan ahead. I e-mailed one of the Tijuana services (I think they may be all the same) and set up an appointment with Nicole (Nicholl on her web-site). I first had taxi guy take me to I believe La Mansion. It reminded me of cabanas in the Dom Republic. They required that your I.D. be left at desk for overnight stay. You know where you can stick that, so it was off to Pueblas Amigas...way too expensive, but nice and I didn't want to waste time finding a place.
Nicole showed right on time. This woman is a 10 on the attractive scale. Not a 10 looks or bodywise but very enthusiastic and never a frown or hesitation. Everything I was interested in was on the program. I am not into anal and neither was she. However, I think she might be willing to experiment if you are nice about it.
She kept an old man busy for a solid 2 hours. This was the best experience I have had except for maybe Rio and the termas where the Brazilian women take it personal if you don't get off.
Sure, I paid the equivalent of 5 trips upstairs at Adelitas, but probably 2 or 3 of those would be marginal at best. Also, at my age or any age I don't want to be doing my business in a puddle of unknown body fluids.
Do yourself a favor and get a hold of Nicole. Treat her right and enjoy. I am getting nothing for this.
Hey! The city of Tijuana is adopting a giant penis named "Xuani" as the official mascot. Check out the news story and photo:
[url]http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20070217-9999-7m17tourism.html[/url]
;)
After 7 hours of flying I finally arrived in SD around 7:30 pm. Instead of wasting the 40ish for a taxi to the border I decided to take the long adventerous route. I took the 992 bus to the Santa fe depot then transfered to the Blue line to the border. My orginal plan was to take a Mexicoach bus into TJ so I can avoid the polica, but I decided last minute I didn't want to wait for the bus so I just walked thru and then took a cab. No problem with Polica!
Since this was my 1st night in TJ, I decided to stick with a safer/nicer hotel. HDS was highly recommended by many mongers on this board so I decided to stay one night. I don't know if it was because they were able to spot a newbie but they charged me 50 a nite, instead of the 45 many of you guys said it would cost.
Now that I had my base camp secured I decided to venture out. My orginal goal was to stop at HK all night but after a few minutes of walking I could not find it. I decided to go into Adelias (SP?) since it was close by. Man you guys in SD are very lucky. The girls in Adelias are insanely beautiful, they have all different types of girls. Since it was a Saturday night the place was absolutely insane. You could not move without bumping into somone. After a few beers I decided to try my luck with another club. Hopefully one that was less packed.
Before I go any further, let me perface this by saying I like to wonder around alot when I drink. So the next section might be a lil long. I'll try to break it down to make it easier reading.
1. Adelias, Didn't stay too long it was too packed for my taste. Hotest girls though.
2. Playboy, After you see the chicks at Adelias the girls at Playboy are UGLY as hell, I stayed for half a beer.
3. Miami club, Wondered into that club not realizing it was attached to HK
4. Went to HK from the side door in Miami club. HK was more my style because it wasn't AS packed as Adelias.
5. Tropical, Another half beer stop club
6. Chicago club, now this is what im talking about. It has girls almost as hot as Adelias but its not as packed. I still didn't have any girls approach me. I guess you have to get a waiter to bring the girls over right?
7. Got tired of all these packed clubs so I found this cutie SG. She wanted $20 plus 3 for the room, unfortuantly I didn't have anymore money because she wanted $10 for sin ropa and $10 more for a BJ. Overall she was OK but im only baseing this one looks. She was one of the hottest SG working that night, her proformance on the other hand was very dead fish.
8. Last club I went to was La Tropa or whatever that club is infront of HDS. I was actually pretty surprised there were a few cuties working there.
After all my TJ fun for the night I went back to the hotel to get some sleep. Man having a room far away from traffic is a must, it was loud as hell I kept on waking up all night long.
The next morning (today) I checked out of HDS and took a taxi to north revo. I guess it was still too early but alot of clubs and stores were still closed. After about 2hours of wondering around the streets I found VivaMex spa, being tired and jetlagged still I decided to try it out. I got to admit that was one of the best messages I ever recieved, too bad you dont get a happy ending there =)
So this concludes my story with me sitting in the internet cafe around the corner from VivaMex. The plan for the rest of the day is to check out HK/Adelias/Chicago Club during the day to see if its alot less packed. I like being able to sit down and talk with chicas, its pretty difficult to do that at night time.
I will be in TJ for another 9 days so, if anyone has any suggestions on things or chicas I should check out I would be extremely thankful, Also I plan on posting all addtional trip reports in this thread.
Thanks again everyone for the help, esp Melonbag!
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
[QUOTE=************]Since this was my 1st night in TJ, I decided to stick with a safer/nicer hotel. HDS was highly recommended by many mongers on this board so I decided to stay one night. I don't know if it was because they were able to spot a newbie but they charged me 50 a nite, instead of the 45 many of you guys said it would cost.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I am new to the board and have plans to make a TJ trip real soon. Please keep us posted on the hotels. I would prefer to stay in TJ and not in SD. For starters a guest friendly hotel would be great.
Enjoy the rest of your trip.
[QUOTE=************]Instead of wasting the 40ish for a taxi to the border I decided to take the long adventerous route. I took the 992 bus to the Santa fe depot then transfered to the Blue line to the border.[/QUOTE]Did you catch the 992 bus at the airport? My flight will arrive at 12 noon giving me ample time to take the long adverterous route to TJ.
I have read many posts and did several searches but I still have several unanswered questions. I will be in TJ the last weekend of March and need to know the following:
1) Which are the better guest friendly hotels in TJ. I would prefer to stay in TJ and not in the USA.
2) Do the guest friendly hotels have websites?
3) What cell phone service will work in TJ?
4) Are internet cafes available?
From my readings it seems most of the P4P is in the Adelita Bar area and not so much on Avenida Revolution. Is this right?
Thanks in advance to those who can help a TJ newbie. I hope to contribute to this board with my DR, CR, and Spain experiences.
I appreciate the information available here. Although a lot of my activities at various locations were done by winging it, I use this site more for up to date information on what establishments are open or closed or which are currently "hot. My experiences have almost always been different than those described here. Also, places like Adelitas or Chicago club can be very different from night to night or even hour to hour.
I claim to be an expert on nothing but to reply to some of BBQ's questions: Take the Airport Flyer bus (I believe 992) right outside terminal to downtown trolley station for $2 or 2.25. Take the trolley to San Ysidro (border crossing) for $2.00 buying ticket from vending machine (simple even for me). Get out, cross over-pass, and you are in Tijuana for <$5. I have never been stopped by police going into Mexico. The only hassle usually are the taxi touts.
If your cell phone works on US side and is a major carrier, it will probably work on TJ side as well. A lot of their customers cross back and forth daily and I see many of the same phones used both sides. Mine worked better in TJ than many US areas.
Go directly to Adelitas, Chicago Club, Bar Tropical "triangle area" and make sure to check out street girl area essentially behind Adelitas as well which includes Hong Kong bar. Keep in mind that a place or area that may be dissappointing at one time may be quite different an hour later.
I would stay away from Revolution particularly at night. It has recently seemed more likely for criminal activity including a larger police presence. This is just an opinion since I have never experienced any problems with crime or police even when staggering out of a taxi to return to US.
I have stayed in only somewhat expensive hotels on TJ side but never had a problem bringing friends back to hotel room.
By the way, can anyone post in Spain section about up to date possibilities in
Ibiza?
[QUOTE=DustMeOff]I appreciate the information available here.[/QUOTE]And I appreciate the information you posted. Your post answered quite a few questions for me. I will be in TJ the last weekend of March. It is a spur of the moment trip. I just started my TJ research a few days ago. I will be in TJ for three nights which I think will be ample time since there doesn't seem to be much else to do other than chase chicas.
If you could pass along some hotel names, preferably with a website, I will be all set to go.
DustMeOff, thanks again for your reply.
Except for a visit a few weeks ago, most of my visits to TJ were 3 to 5 years ago. I stayed at Pueblo Amiga last visit (and another time 3 years ago). This hotel is very nice and in the $100 plus range. The woman I was with even called the front desk and had condoms delivered to room. This hotel is short walking distance from the border and has taxis outside all day.
Awhile back I had no problem bringing an all-nighter to the Grand Tijuana. Again, this hotel is expensive. I personally don't mind because they are cleaner, safer, and usually more quiet than I believe the monger hotels to be.
All of the "upscale" hotels can be found with a search of Tijuana hotels. I know I have seen lists of fairly inexpensive guest friendly hotels on this or other Mexico specialist web sites.
Remember that any prospects from Adelitas, Chicago Bar, or alley will already have their designated accomodations. They usually won't go anywhere else with a client. So except for the price and location (which of course are important to most people), there isn't any advantage to being right in the area as far as chica activity is concerned.
I again apologize if this information isn't too informative. My days of going upstairs at Adelitas 3 times a night are over. I would rather spend a little more to possibly get a little more. Those experiences were very enjoyable though most of the time, I just don't want the hassles of a rush job anymore.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]And I appreciate the information you posted. Your post answered quite a few questions for me. I will be in TJ the last weekend of March. It is a spur of the moment trip. I just started my TJ research a few days ago. I will be in TJ for three nights which I think will be ample time since there doesn't seem to be much else to do other than chase chicas.
If you could pass along some hotel names, preferably with a website, I will be all set to go.
DustMeOff, thanks again for your reply.[/QUOTE]
There are a few options available, many are written up. Search out the info for Pueblo Amigo Hotel, Plaza Rio etc. These are a taxi ride from the zona and you can use the short time rooms for your work there. The hotels I mentioned are very nice and comfortable. Nice place to re-charge, but then again, you're going there to sex yourself to death right?
If this is your first trip to the land of orgasms, I'd suggest you room up at a safe place until you learn the lay of the land. Once you see how things work, you can plan further. A safe space to come back too after the Zona tour is very cool.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]There are a few options available, many are written up. Search out the info for Pueblo Amigo Hotel, Plaza Rio etc. These are a taxi ride from the zona and you can use the short time rooms for your work there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DustMeOff]Remember that any prospects from Adelitas, Chicago Bar, or alley will already have their designated accomodations. They usually won't go anywhere else with a client.[/QUOTE]I am really starting to rethink this TJ thing. I am most comfortable having my hotel room and bringing the chicas to "my space". Running upstairs for a quickie is not really my thing, been there and done that. I am somewhat older and prefer the slow times with the ladies. You know, shower together, sit and chat, have a drink, listen to music before you get down to doing what you really want to do. I prefer to meet a chica I am comfortable with and do a TLN. So far, from what I have read, TJ doesn't seem like the place for this.
I really would like to visit TJ if no more than to see what the place is like. Maybe I will take my chances. If I search long enough I am quite sure I will find someone who won't mind going to my hotel.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]I am really starting to rethink this TJ thing. I am most comfortable having my hotel room and bringing the chicas to "my space". Running upstairs for a quickie is not really my thing, been there and done that. I am somewhat older and prefer the slow times with the ladies. You know, shower together, sit and chat, have a drink, listen to music before you get down to doing what you really want to do. I prefer to meet a chica I am comfortable with and do a TLN. So far, from what I have read, TJ doesn't seem like the place for this.
I really would like to visit TJ if no more than to see what the place is like. Maybe I will take my chances. If I search long enough I am quite sure I will find someone who won't mind going to my hotel.[/QUOTE]
You won't have to look very far at all. Talk to the girls (in the club, perhaps Chicago Club) and tell them what you want to do. The girls will usually work with you if the numbers are right.
You should visit the happiest place on Earth, it's quite a site for the seasoned monger who hasn't ben there. Just remember to be careful and not wander off with anyone you do not know, be polite and have a friendly disposition. You'll love it. The place is a circus.
Country John
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]I am really starting to rethink this TJ thing. I am most comfortable having my hotel room and bringing the chicas to "my space". Running upstairs for a quickie is not really my thing, been there and done that. I am somewhat older and prefer the slow times with the ladies. You know, shower together, sit and chat, have a drink, listen to music before you get down to doing what you really want to do. I prefer to meet a chica I am comfortable with and do a TLN. So far, from what I have read, TJ doesn't seem like the place for this.
I really would like to visit TJ if no more than to see what the place is like. Maybe I will take my chances. If I search long enough I am quite sure I will find someone who won't mind going to my hotel.[/QUOTE]TLN's are easier to come by on slower nights and in smaller bars like LC, TB, RR or La Valentina. Monday and Tuesday nights are usually the best for TLN's or whenever it's a slow night at the bar. You should arrrange the TLN so that you avoid paying a bar fine which is usually accomplished in a couple of ways. You either make plans on the girls night off or you wait until she finishes her shift. There are other ways but these are the most common to avoid the bar fine. Also arranging a TLN is a little less difficult if for instance you tell the girl that you'll take her out dancing or to eat at a nice restaurant or you'll be staying at a hotel in Ensenada or Rosarito.
[size=-1]This is a trip report in four parts as follows:
Part One – A Fine Afternoon (posted in Tijuana Reports)
Part Two – The Grim Reaper (posted in Miami Bar Reports)
Part Three – My Sweet Freebie (posted in Hong Kong Club Reports)
Part Four – Street Adventures (posted in Streetwalker Reports)[/size]
[b]Part One – A Fine Afternoon[/b]
I headed down to TJ on Sunday the 18th. Traffic was light the whole way and I arrived at the Ueno parking lot about 2:30 p.m.. I crossed over into Mexico, grabbed a taxi over by the Farmacias near McDonald's, and asked the driver to take me to El Arco on the corner of Revolución and (Articulo 123) Primera. I walk over to the HSBC Bank ATMs but they are both empty. Back to Primera and turn down Constitución. The same girls are all working, but one of my favorites Miss NoKisses isn't here right now. I smile and say hello to Andrea and some of the other girls along the way.
As I approach the Alley (Callejon Coahuila), I see Miss Perfect is here with a big grin on her gorgeous face. I haven't seen her since before Navidad and miss her dearly. She is so beautiful. Dark skin, a petite, slender body. Long, straight black hair always presented perfectly but combed a bit differently every time. Ninety-nine pounds of perfection. I kiss her on the cheek and hold her hand as we catch up on recent events. Was she on vacation when I was here two weeks ago? No, she wasn't feeling well and didn't work for a couple of days. It's a beautiful sunny afternoon and I'm wearing a short-sleeved shirt, but Miss Perfect wants to know if I brought a jacket because it will be cold tonight. I tell her no but have a long shirt for later. She warns me that it might rain later, a detail a had not considered. Anyway, we say our goodbyes for now and I walk over to Hotel Porton to get a room for the night.
Hotel Porton is a newer hotel right in the Alley, as such it's clean and comfortable by Zona Norte standards, but is also very small and very loud at night. Location is the main attraction for me. A room is $35 for the night, I paid 350 pesos which they accept without question. Recently, they haven't been charging anything for bringing girls back. The rooms downstairs are for short time street girls, but they have a few rooms for overnight upstairs. I get settled in and then head out into the Alley.
There really aren't that many girls working in the Alley right now. In fact, as I walk around, it's like it was two weeks ago, about half as many girls as usual. Numerous regulars are nowhere to be seen.
So, I head up Constitución and now see Miss NoKisses standing at her usual location. She is reading something which I quickly grab from her. It's a sex comic. She turns red with embarrassment. I pretend to be shocked finding a nice catholic girl like her with a sex comic. She quickly blames Andrea (down the street) as the one who gave it to her. I tell her that I know Andrea well and she would never read this kind of filth because she is very pure and innocent. Miss NoKisses denies this vehemently and asks if I want to get something to eat. I tell her no, but she can be my securidad (security) because I need to go to the cajero (ATM). She pushes the comic into her roomate's hands (Her roomate is working here also) and off we go to BanaMex on second street. On the way back, we stop for condoms at a drug store. Then back to my room with her a for a nice session. She complains when I kiss her, "pintura!, pintura!" that I'm ruining her lipstick but she really craves the attention. We're friends for several years and very comfortable together. Afterwards, we shower together.
I walk her back to her location and ask if she might want to have a beer later this evening. Miss NoKisses says maybe and I say goodbye, kiss her on the cheek, and head north down Constitución, past Callejon Coahuila, then turn west down Calle Coahuila.
I walk past Adelita Bar, pausing to see if any girls are returning from Hotel Coahuila to the bar but at the moment there are none. I cross the street over to Tropical Bar. Tropical is attached to Hotel Ritz de Oro, which I like to call Hotel Ritz de Basura. It's a poorly maintained maze of twisting stairs and oddly placed rooms. If you've ever been there you know what I mean. I've stayed over night there twice. (As an aside, Tropical Bar and Hotel Ritz de Oro are part of the Hotel Las Cascadas group, as is Chavelas Bar, Miami Bar, and Hong Kong Bar.)
I go into Tropical Bar, it's okay but the layout is odd in that there are really only a few good seats around the stage, the stools around the bar itself are always full, and lots of thick structural supports ensure a couple of dozen bad seats elsewhere. I am left with a bad seat over by the baños and order an agua mineral. Scanning the scene, I see a nice looking woman stripping on stage and one or two other passable girls, but mostly a lot of cows. Over at the bar I see a very fat man with his hands all over a cute girl, and looking closer, I realize that I saw him two weeks ago in Chavelas where he was entertaining three beautiful girls at the same time. He must be well connected somehow.
Anyway, Tropical Bar is a bit old-fashioned in that there are girls sitting on benches waiting for dollar dances or for you to approach and buy a drink. I like its style and slower pace. I have been in here when there were lots of cute girls, but today it isn't happening for me. Disappointed, I finish my drink and head out.
[b]End of Part One – Part Two continues in Miami Bar Reports[/b]
Like a lot before me, I'm making my first trip ever to Tijuana. I'm flying into Palm Springs to visit a friend for a few days and just found out that he's working. On the bright side I found this as the perfect excuse to visit this lovely little sin city. So I'm going to rent a car and drive down for the day, probably stopping over at Gas Lamp District (just to say I've been. Any pointers where to eat early morning would be great). I plan on crossing over at around 11am maybe noon. I've read a lot of post on this forum and a few on another. I was able to get most of my questions answered, but found a few still needing resolved.
1. If I'm going to be in the Zone Norte from 11am till 4pm on a Monday, what can I expect as far as quality and quantity (both bar girls and SGs)?
2. I'm in my mid 20s and traveling alone. What is your opinion of this?
3. Before I arrived at Zone Norte, I plan on locating a pharmacy to purchase some viagra (I'm young, but multiple sessions may require some pharmaceutical help). Can you help me with a name/address of a pharmacy on the way to Zone Norte?
4. Depending on the what happens while I'm in Tijuana I may find myself with extra time to do whatever. If you wonder out of Zone Norte, are there any specific things to do/see worth noting. I read that Mexico's largest winery was near by.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm into photography so expect a lot of pics upon my return. I'm a good salesman so I expect to get some good photos of the chicas. If any of you guys down there during this time, let me know. We'll share some beers and swap some stories. What little punting I've done it's been in Europe.
By the way, WTF is a "sin ropa"
Cheers
[QUOTE=Young Punter]Like a lot before me, I'm making my first trip ever to Tijuana. I'm flying into Palm Springs to visit a friend for a few days and just found out that he's working. On the bright side I found this as the perfect excuse to visit this lovely little sin city. So I'm going to rent a car and drive down for the day, probably stopping over at Gas Lamp District (just to say I've been. Any pointers where to eat early morning would be great). I plan on crossing over at around 11am maybe noon. I've read a lot of post on this forum and a few on another. I was able to get most of my questions answered, but found a few still needing resolved.
1. If I'm going to be in the Zone Norte from 11am till 4pm on a Monday, what can I expect as far as quality and quantity (both bar girls and SGs)?
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You'll run the gamit. I'm not sure what you expect quaslity wise but be advised that most have found the selection adequate. The top tier girls (in the zona) are supposed to be at Adelitas. But shop around.
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2. I'm in my mid 20s and traveling alone. What is your opinion of this?[/quote]
Depending on what you're driging, you'll be a cop magnet. Make sure that the car is clean, there are NO weapons or ammo, drugs or devices in the car. Purchase "Mexican" insurance for the day (about $20.00) and make sure the paperwork on the car is in order. If you are renting, make certain that the rental contract permits the car to be drivin into Mexico. If not, and you get stopped, you WILL have problems.
[quote]3. Before I arrived at Zone Norte, I plan on locating a pharmacy to purchase some viagra (I'm young, but multiple sessions may require some pharmaceutical help). Can you help me with a name/address of a pharmacy on the way to Zone Norte?
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Farmacias are everywhere. I would discourage a young man of 20 years from dropping viagra. This is your first trip son, don't do meds like that without talking to a doctor. There shold be enough stimuli in the Zona to get you off.
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4. Depending on the what happens while I'm in Tijuana I may find myself with extra time to do whatever. If you wonder out of Zone Norte, are there any specific things to do/see worth noting. I read that Mexico's largest winery was near by.
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You won't have time for that. Park in a secured parking lot. NEVER on the street. Have nothing visible in the passenger compartment. Use common sense as though you are in a high crime area;because you ARE.
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Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm into photography so expect a lot of pics upon my return. I'm a good salesman so I expect to get some good photos of the chicas. If any of you guys down there during this time, let me know. We'll share some beers and swap some stories. What little punting I've done it's been in Europe.
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Do me a favor: Go to the Zona, bang some girlies, get a few pics where you can, then get out. Post a trip report.
I have to caution you about your personal security. Dress down. No bling. Leave valuables in the trunk of your car. Stay low profile.
[quote]By the way, WTF is a "sin ropa"
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"Sin Ropa" means "without clothes." The girls in the Alley like to remove only the required clothing for the service they provide. Having them remove all their clothing usually requires a few extra dollars. When you ask for "sin ropa" you are asking for full nudity.
Be safe and Be nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Young Punter]3. Before I arrived at Zone Norte, I plan on locating a pharmacy to purchase some viagra (I'm young, but multiple sessions may require some pharmaceutical help). Can you help me with a name/address of a pharmacy on the way to Zone Norte?[/QUOTE]Young Punter,
I am not a doctor and I have not been to TJ but I read your post and Country John's excellent response with interest. Do follow his advice, but if you are going to use Viagra, I suggest you try a lower dose such as 25 or a 50. Do not use 100 the first time. All it will do is give you a bad headache. Other alternative is to try Cialis, 20mg. The flushing and headache are less of an issue with "C" and the intended effect lasts longer. BTW, do not mix both.
About photography: If you take photos of the chicas, especially nude photos, and get stopped by the TJ policia, they could consider it pornography (which is illegal to produce in Mexico). It wouldn't be unusual for them to check your digital camera or cell phone for photos.
Just something to think about.
[QUOTE=Country John]
If you are renting, make certain that the rental contract permits the car to be drivin into Mexico. If not, and you get stopped, you WILL have problems.
Country John[/QUOTE]
OMG is this true! Stopped 3x in 1 day till I ran out of bribe money.
When I told the last cop I had NO MONEY; If looks could kill I would be
dead..he just walked away very pissed...AND THIS WAS 1987!
Now days I would be dragged to TJ jail- fo sho!
[QUOTE=Roguesta]About photography: If you take photos of the chicas, especially nude photos, and get stopped by the TJ policia, they could consider it pornography (which is illegal to produce in Mexico). It wouldn't be unusual for them to check your digital camera or cell phone for photos.
Just something to think about.[/QUOTE]First, thanks to everyone for their advice. Regarding the camera issue, I had already planned on keeping the memory card and camera separate at all times. Or just use a dummy memory card in the camera with tourist pics.
In regards to safety issues, some had thought I would be driving across. I am actually walking across and and spending the time walking in/around zone norte including allies. I received some great private messages. But if anyone else wants to add their opinion, I'd greatly appreciate it. Again, I'm in my mid 20s and will be alone. I'll be there this Tuesday from 11am till 4pm. Depending on how things go, I may stay overnight, but I don't want to get ahead of myself just yet.
You can drive your car in Baja California, which is considered part of the Free Trade Zone, without any additional permits. Make sure that you have all the paperwork in order, just as you would to drive in the US.
Young Punter: Separating your memory card from your camera might not be good enough. If you do get stopped, they will turn everyone of your pockets inside out, and seeing a separate memory card will be a red flag.
Be smart; be careful, and have a good time.
[QUOTE=Young Punter]
In regards to safety issues, some had thought I would be driving across. I am actually walking across and and spending the time walking in/around zone norte including allies. I received some great private messages. But if anyone else wants to add their opinion, I'd greatly appreciate it. Again, I'm in my mid 20s and will be alone. I'll be there this Tuesday from 11am till 4pm. Depending on how things go, I may stay overnight, but I don't want to get ahead of myself just yet.[/QUOTE]
Walking across is best option. Car can get you in too much trouble and is a hassle with parking, ect. Other than that you don't have to be THAT paranoid man- it ain't North Korea! My advice would be to just go and have fun. Add more time to your stay when you feel more comfortable. I was so intimidated ny my visit to Kenya that I KNOW I didn't have as much fun as I could have.
On that note save some of that TJ money for a real monger spot like Thailand.
I agree, you don't have to be that paranoid, but the reason you shouldn't be paranoid is because you are clean, and if you do get stopped, they'll have nothing on you.
I agree, also, about Thailand, except that the baht is down to about 33 per dollar.
There are plenty of pics of the Zona and of the girls. I would suggest leaving the bling at home and getting your feet wet there before doing anything ambitious like snapping pictures.
Realize that there are other mongers in the Zona and some might not appreciate being photographed. This is a private hobby and the notion that your pic could end up on a popular website could be disturbing to some if they see someone snapping pics.
Remember that the many of the girls have their handlers or "padrotes" looking on as the girls work. If they see you getting snappy, they might want the camera. When you are not looking, you might lose the camera.
No, don't be paranoid. Everyone knows why you are there. Just go with the flow, get laid by a pretty latina or three, get back and do your trip report. Read the board, espcially Brockton O'Tooles guide.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Go there, become familiar with the place, enjoy the stay. Don't try to play games with the cops - they outnumber you and they will win if it gets shitty. Don't even go there.
As a tourist, visiting TJ coming from San Diego the situation is a bit different from what I can read in the threat.
It's very easy to go there. Just take the Trolley "Blue line" from Downtown San Diego direction San Ysidro. It will cost $ 4.50 for the two ways. Take a seat in this train and try to relax, since it takes about 45 min from there. The people in the train will come and go and at the end, there are mostly spanish speaking folks in there. It's a special entertainment by itself. I enjoyed it several times.
Arriving at the border just follow the crowd the long way over the bridge to cross the freeway into Mexico. You will first see some american perhaps some mexican officials, but no one will ask you something. I took the door to Mexico in the East. From there it was like 500 m to reach the bus to "Centro". They charged me Pesos 3.50 and 10 min later I stood on the Av. Revoluccion.
From there it's just 2 min to walk to RLD - I am sure, everyone will find it easyly.
It's a everyday discussion, but IMHO I don't estimate the mexican women in general as beautiful. I entered "Hong Kong", "Chicago" and "Adelitas" an - hey - they girls show very sexy dancing, but the closer you get the more you will be disappointed (sorry, I don't want to hurt anyone, it's just my opinion). Looking in the corner, many girls hang arround in a sad mood.
At the end I walked arround the blocks, where I found like 100 SW. Here, I saw the more beautiful ones (again, IMHO), some dull, others in a good mood. I went to the room with 3 of them and was only happy with one girl. Here name was N....(sorry, for the moment I don't remember her name, if so I will tell you later) She had a open smile from the first minute to the last, she showed emotion and was the only girl I met that really was in to sex. I paid $20 for her (about 20 min, but she never took the watch to have the time) plus $5 for the shabby room. If you meet her, be nice to her so she will be for you and will give you a lot of pleasure.
Going back I took a cab, cots $5 or 50 Pesos (most people just take 1:10 even that it is 1:11, they are mostly nice folks, no bankers). At the border you pass 3 or 4 mexican officials (again no question, no hassle even that i have been a !lonely man") to be at the american controll like 100 m later. Again very easy, you show your passport. That's it.
Conclusion: TJ is a good option being in San Diego: different country with a special atmosphere, cheap girls - but: nothing to compare with what you could get in Europe (Prague, Germany, Spain ..) for comparable prices.
But is was fun anyway (I have some pictures from "my girls", but I won't make them public. Country John is right!
Nice TR Labadi. There are some gems in the alley, that's for sure. I had a few favs there who always gave good service. Repeating with your fav is the key to good service and then better service later on. Your observations are on the money.
Latinas are not everyone's cup of tea, especially guys with mongering time overseas it seems.
But they sure are MY cup of tea. Oh yeah.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]
Latinas are not everyone's cup of tea, especially guys with mongering time overseas it seems.
But they sure are MY cup of tea. Oh yeah.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Hi, I have no trip report to share about the mechanical sex available in Tijuana, but I notice that some people on here seem to lump the Mexican women available in TJ with ALL Latinas.
With all due respect, please stop this. "Latinas" are a very diverse group of women from all over Mexico, Central America, and South America, not to mention certain parts of Europe even. Lumping the women of Tijuana and Mexico with the women of Colombia, Brasil, Venezuela, etc, is a complete insult! Just to put it into perspective, it would be like saying since a Chevy Camaro is a sports car, it's in the same league as a Ferrari!
Hell, even the country I'm in now, Ecuador, the women here beat the Mexican women by light years, and this country isn't even in the top tier for Latinas.
Please don't make the guys on this web site think that all Latinas are like the girls available in Tijuana and Mexico. That's just blatently false. Anyways, I think most guys on here love Latinas. It's Mexicanas we (myself and others who complain about TJ) dislike!
Thank you for letting me rant.
It's Mexicanas we dislike![/QUOTE]
Who is this 'we' you speak of?
I hear the protest but I respectfully disagree. My Maya Mexicana is Latina from the tips of her negra toes to the very top of her Raven Black hairy head. It's what makes her special.
Certainly other women of the world can claim the moniker, and they might be rightfully entitled to do so. But that doesn't dis-entitle the Mexicanas of Tijuana, not one bit (in my opinion).
There is a lot to appreciate in these girls. You need to be patient. You need to want to see it and you need to be able to recognize it when you do. In the fleeting pay for play world of the Zona, it's easy to overlook all that. Why be concerned at all since you're there for a $20 to $60 fuck and a few beers.
I've had long discussions with my girley about the term "latina." She is one. For sure. And I like it.
Country John
While in SD on business, I made it down to TJ on Sun night and Thurs night. I visited everything from AD/CC/HK to Revolution to massage. Here are some random observations:
1. Clubs on Revolution are really dead, even on Sun night. Several clubs (including Eclipse and Pussycats) had no customers and 2-3 women. Believe or not, these places ended up being the best option for me. I had total negotiating power and there was 1 decent girl at each place. It was truly amazing how much power I had. When I would try to leave one of these places, some of the girls and bartenders would make offers for me to stay (free shots of tequila, half price full service, etc). I ended up with a nice looking girl from Pussycats for $40 (sex and BBBJCIM) in the table dance room on Sun night.
2. Bartenders rip you off on Revolution. They always try to switch your $10 for a $1 when you try to pay for a drink. When one guy did this to me at Pussycats on Thurs night, I told him I saw the switch and to give me my $20 back (yes $20, not $10). He said, no it was $10. I wanted to scare him a little, so I threatened getting the Police and he either got scare or confused (maybe he thought I really did give him a $20) and gave me a $20. So now I'm up $10. Then, I walked out leaving the beer sitting there because of the untrustworthy bartender and the women were not that great. So the scamming bartender now is down $10 and has an open beer that I didn't pay for. If more people messed with these guys, they wouldn't try to pull that crap all the time.
3. AD had hot women, but all seemed cold. I didn't even try. I will say those were the best damn Mexican women I've ever seen.
4. Some clubs on Revolution have TV's (not the kind you watch).
5. Massage places want $40 just to get the girls alone to negotiate for sex. I didn't want to take the chance. Also, the aggressive guys on Revolution try to get you to visit and then demand a tip. If I stay, sure, but don't beg me to go with false promises of 40 beautiful women, waste my time, then ask for a tip.
6. Mexican food is great. I've eating at probably 50 Mexican taco stands and have had nothing but great tacos (never gotten sick).
[QUOTE=Ezinho]Hi, I have no trip report to share about the mechanical sex available in Tijuana, but I notice that some people on here seem to lump the Mexican women available in TJ with ALL Latinas.
With all due respect, please stop this. "Latinas" are a very diverse group of women from all over Mexico, Central America, and South America, not to mention certain parts of Europe even. Lumping the women of Tijuana and Mexico with the women of Colombia, Brasil, Venezuela, etc, is a complete insult! Just to put it into perspective, it would be like saying since a Chevy Camaro is a sports car, it's in the same league as a Ferrari!
Hell, even the country I'm in now, Ecuador, the women here beat the Mexican women by light years, and this country isn't even in the top tier for Latinas.
Please don't make the guys on this web site think that all Latinas are like the girls available in Tijuana and Mexico. That's just blatently false. Anyways, I think most guys on here love Latinas. It's Mexicanas we (myself and others who complain about TJ) dislike!
Thank you for letting me rant.[/QUOTE]
Ezinho, with due respect, I think to lump all "Mexicans" into one category (mechanical SG) is a bit unfair. Yes, there are a lot of mechanical SGs in Mexico and TJ, but there are also some really great bar girls, semi-pros (TLN girls) and civillians that will give you a run for your money (or maybe even for free if you are good!) A lot of us guys on this board - and I admit that I am one of them - think that Mexican women are the most beautiful, sexiest creatures alive. Others may disagree, and of course that is their right. Women from Asia and Soth/Central America are hot as well, but once you develop a taste for Mexican women, nobody can ever talk you out of it. Most of us are hooked!
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]Ezinho, with due respect, I think to lump all "Mexicans" into one category (mechanical SG) is a bit unfair. Yes, there are a lot of mechanical SGs in Mexico and TJ, but there are also some really great bar girls, semi-pros (TLN girls) and civillians that will give you a run for your money (or maybe even for free if you are good!) A lot of us guys on this board - and I admit that I am one of them - think that Mexican women are the most beautiful, sexiest creatures alive. Others may disagree, and of course that is their right. Women from Asia and Soth/Central America are hot as well, but once you develop a taste for Mexican women, nobody can ever talk you out of it. Most of us are hooked!
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
Good point and why the hell haven't we had dinner since last year Bluenose?
If you consider that many of the girls view what they do as "sex without Love," then that should answer the question "Why does she stare at the ceiling when I'm fucking her?"
These girls don't love you, they don't like you and they could probably care less about you. so the "mechanical" aspect of what they do is manifested in those who do not have good customer service skills.
My girley is most passionate and anything but mechanical. She's like a different girl every night.
Many of my SG regulars gave great service and were anything but mechanical. I have had several that were but that never spoiled the fun.
Latinas are fabulous creatures. Learn to enjoy them, hook up with one that you can develop into a regular and you'll be very surprised just how delicious they can be.
There ARE mechanical chicas out there. Don;t worry, you'll recognize them when you get them in the sack.
Country John
[quote=Country John]Latinas are not everyone's cup of tea, especially guys with mongering time overseas it seems.
But they sure are MY cup of tea. Oh yeah.
Country John[/quote]
Not always true, CJ. For example, I've logged [u]plenty[/u] of time chasing overseas poontang; but somehow I just keep coming back for more of that "Brown Sugar" down south of the border :)
[QUOTE=Smut Villain]Not always true, CJ. For example, I've logged [u]plenty[/u] of time chasing overseas poontang; but somehow I just keep coming back for more of that "Brown Sugar" down south of the border :)[/QUOTE]
I'll drink to that!
Some friends and I will be down there in a a month or two. Working out the logistics now. Two of my buddies have been there a few times already. This will be my first trip to Mexico for mongering.
I've read most of the forum so far. I appreciate all who contribute. Thanks
I will be sure to hit Adelitas, Chicago, and Hong Kong. I will even see some of the smaller ones to look for a diamond in the rough. My buddies swear by AB, but I like to see a variety of things.
Keep up the good posts and thanks again. Donnie D
It looks as if a big church has now opened right between Adelitas Bar and Las Chavelas. Interesting location.
[QUOTE=Conejito]It looks as if a big church has now opened right between Adelitas Bar and Las Chavelas. Interesting location.[/QUOTE]
Where have you been? The church has been there as long as I can remember, maybe 10 years plus. It's not Catholic either but more like holy roller.
[QUOTE=Donnie D]Some friends and I will be down there in a a month or two. Working out the logistics now. Two of my buddies have been there a few times already. This will be my first trip to Mexico for mongering.
I've read most of the forum so far. I appreciate all who contribute. Thanks
I will be sure to hit Adelitas, Chicago, and Hong Kong. I will even see some of the smaller ones to look for a diamond in the rough. My buddies swear by AB, but I like to see a variety of things.
Keep up the good posts and thanks again. Donnie D[/QUOTE]
Donnie D,
I think that AB, CC & HK will keep you busy for your first trip and it's a great way to ease into things into the zone. Once you feel a bit more comfortable with TJ, you can venture into some of the different places - Las Chevalas, Valentina and some of the other smaller bars just to check them out. Remember that la policia are out in full force right now so be safe: no drgus or weapons of any kind and if you need to hit a farmacia for some vitamin V, take it right away - don't walk around with it. Other than that, just exercise common sense and you will be fine. Have a great trip and please post a TR when you return.
Conejito - that church has been there for a while, but when there is no service, there is usually a gate across the front of it, so you would hardly notice it just walking by. I agree with you, though - it's quite a location for a church. I always feel like such a sinner walking by it on my way from AB to La Perla.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]Donnie D,
I think that AB, CC & HK will keep you busy for your first trip and it's a great way to ease into things into the zone. Once you feel a bit more comfortable with TJ, you can venture into some of the different places - Las Chevalas, Valentina and some of the other smaller bars just to check them out. Remember that la policia are out in full force right now so be safe: no drgus or weapons of any kind and if you need to hit a farmacia for some vitamin V, take it right away - don't walk around with it. Other than that, just exercise common sense and you will be fine. Have a great trip and please post a TR when you return.
Conejito - that church has been there for a while, but when there is no service, there is usually a gate across the front of it, so you would hardly notice it just walking by. I agree with you, though - it's quite a location for a church. I always feel like such a sinner walking by it on my way from AB to La Perla.
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
Well, if you ARE a God Fearing Man, the place is convenient for slipping in for saying your prayers and lightly confessing. Yu should try it sometimes Bluenose, you're way overdue for a solid confession!!! Are you in TJ?
Country John
Thanks for the tips. I appreciate it.
I have been around, so I will be fine. I've pretty much travelled the world. Plus I am going with a few friends who speak Spanish and have been there over the past few years. As for vitamin V, no need for that, I'm still in my 30's.
Thanks again.
I will contribute and post a trip report when I return. It won't be until May.
So until then keep the senoritas warm and let them know the storm is coming.
Always Play Safe, Donnie
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]Donnie D,
I think that AB, CC & HK will keep you busy for your first trip and it's a great way to ease into things into the zone. Once you feel a bit more comfortable with TJ, you can venture into some of the different places - Las Chevalas, Valentina and some of the other smaller bars just to check them out. Remember that la policia are out in full force right now so be safe: no drgus or weapons of any kind and if you need to hit a farmacia for some vitamin V, take it right away - don't walk around with it. Other than that, just exercise common sense and you will be fine. Have a great trip and please post a TR when you return. Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
CJ, that was a good one.
After reading your posts, I think I will PM you and Blue Nose before I go to see if we can hook up. Til then, take care and thanks for the good posts.
Donnie
[QUOTE=Country John]Well, if you ARE a God Fearing Man, the place is convenient for slipping in for saying your prayers and lightly confessing. Yu should try it sometimes Bluenose, you're way overdue for a solid confession!!! Are you in TJ?
Country John[/QUOTE]
[b]Part One[/b]
It was a grinding week at work, so I decided to skip out early on Friday and head down to TJ. I forced my way through rush hour traffic arriving at 7:00 p.m. Revolución looked kind of empty for a Friday night. I stop at a drugstore on the corner of Primera and Constitución to buy some Sico brand condoms. They're strong and thin with a nice soft feel to them. There's a couple of policia at the corner. They didn't hassle me. Down Constitución one of my favorites Miss NoKisses isn't here right now. Her roommate sees me and gives me the classic "Psst, Psst" and motions for me to come over. She says Miss NoKisses isn't working today but will be here tomorrow. I ask her roommate to tell her to be here at 11:00 am tomorrow morning.
As I approach the Alley (Callejon Coahuila), I don't see Miss Perfect either. It is a bit late so I suppose she has already gone home. There are a lot of policia at the little Zona Norte substation. The Alley seems a bit empty also. I get a cheap room at Hotel Mini. It'll be loud, cold, and uncomfortable but the location is great and I'm not really here for the accommodations.
I walk down to Hotel Venecia and pick up Miss Gordita. She tells me right away that she knows last time I was here, I avoided her. Her friend saw me. I agree wholeheartedly, because it's true and doesn't really matter. Does she want to spend some time this evening with me? Of course, she moans she hasn't fucked anybody all day long and needs, you guessed it, rent money. Oh, and she needs money for her kid and money for her mom. Gotta give her credit, it didn't take 30 seconds to hit the top three reasons: mi renta, mi mama, mi niña. The street girl blues.
We head off to Bar La Gloria on Constitución to have a few beers, listen to some music, and maybe even dance a couple. I order a Bohemia and Miss Gordita gets a Sol. She's hungry and gets a package of whole dried shrimp from one of the passing-by vendors that appear nonstop. She slowly picks the shrimp apart dipping them into pico sauce. They smell, it's disgusting. She doesn't like the music, I give her a few bucks to go tip the DJ for some different songs. As soon as he starts playing her music choices, more and more couples get up to dance. Eventually we dance as well. Actually, I just sort of shuffle around. A couple of hours later we're back at my room shuffling around on top of each other for some unremarkable, ordinary sex. I shower and walk her back to where she stands.
Back up Constitución and then Primera, I stop in at Bar El Fracaso and see an amiga of Miss Gordita and dance a couple of slow dances with her. She asks why I'm not still with Miss Gordita. She had seen us leave together from in front of Hotel Venecia earlier in the evening. I explain that three hours is enough time with Miss Gordita. She disagrees and starts talking about how well she would treat a special man like me. I'm not interested in this woman, so I leave the bar after a short while.
Down Constitución I run into Adriana, a favorite of mine that I haven't been with in a long time. She has a square face with strong facial features, thick lips, broad smile, dark brown hair about shoulder length. A curled strand of hair falls down on either side of her face. She's about 5 feet tall. She has a full, curvy figure. I grab her hand and pull her along as I keep walking. She looks surprised and says "Si?" As we near the entrance to Hotel Erma she asks "Aqui?" No, I tell her. Let's go to my room. "Adónde?" Mini, I tell her. "Okay!"
Passing the police substation, there are a lot of hookers being unloaded from a police van and led into the station. They were picked up for working without a medical card. A bit later, Adriana gets a call on her cell phone from a girlfriend who says she's headed home for the night since she forgot to bring her tarjeta with her and doesn't want to get caught by the police.
In the room, I see that Adriana has lost some weight and is looking mighty fine to me. I compliment her and she gushes with appreciation. I love her great attitude, always upbeat. She's freshly showered and smelling great. She has soft perfect skin with no scars or tattoos or blemishes. Nice boobs with generous, dark nipples. We don't discuss anything about money or what I expect. I already know she does quickies for $20, otherwise she's available by the hour for $50. She is pretty much agreeable to whatever I want. We've even fallen asleep together in the past. After warming up under the blankets, I explore her body a bit, followed by a great covered bj. Next Adriana asks me if I want "chuga-chuga." Chuga-chuga? "Si, la chuga-chuga," she laughs pumping her arms and hips. Okay. I would like some chuga-chuga now. Afterwards, we lay together, wrapped around each other, for the rest of the hour after which I pay her 500 pesos. She kisses the money and makes the sign of the cross before putting it into her wallet. I walk her back to her spot and say goodnight.
Don't know about you, but having this gorgeous creature in my own hotel room for an hour at 500 pesos beats the hell out of getting the bums rush by some chica with attitude, too good to touch me at Adelita Bar.
[b]End of Part One – To Be Continued[/b]
[b]Part Two[/b]
It's about 11:45 p.m. on Friday night and I wander into one of the dive bars in Zona Norte to possibly do some dollar dances with a girl or two. Standing near the entrance, I see a table with three young, pretty girls sitting together smoking and drinking. It's slow for a Friday night, but not so slow that these girls would be alone. I look at the beers on their table, there's a can of Modelo for each, and more importantly, no other beers, that is to say it doesn't look like they have guys with them. So, I take a seat a couple tables across from them and try to figure this out. Two of the girls are exceptionally pretty, with very fine facial features, petite in statue, and quite shapely. The other has a pretty face though not finely chiseled like the others. She is average in size and her body is nice but not remarkable. The puzzle is, three girls this good-looking wouldn't be working here, they would doubtless be working at some more upscale bar. They're not sitting with men, so what are they doing here?
I order a Bohemia and sip away at it while studying the situation. There's one other American in the entire place and he's sitting at the table next to them. He's a great big fat guy, must be 300 pounds. He starts talking to one of them. A waiter shows up, apparently to see if he wants to buy a fiche beer, he declines and turns around away from the girl. A local comes over and asks the same girl to dance and she goes with the local. Another comes over and asks one of the other girls to dance and likewise she goes with him. A couple songs go by and the girls return alone to their table. I guess they are working? At any rate, I need to get in on this before they're taken. I walk up to the table and ask the average-sized girl to dance. She agrees.
On the dance floor I get a closer look at my girl and realize that she's very pretty, much more so than I had thought at a glance. This is one sexy Latina! Her gentle, sexy swaying to the music wins me over. Her face has soft wide features and is beautiful. We dance another song. She's a bit timid in that she hasn't latched on to me like a fiche girl normally would. She's acting more like a non-pro would. She doesn't speak English. When the song ends, I ask if she would like a beer. Yes. She walks back to her table and I point to my table and she says no sit over here at her table with the other girls. I'll call the girl I was dancing with Miss LatinaSexy. One of the girls is away dancing, the other, with the prettiest face of the three, was sitting alone until we returned. I'll call her Miss CaraBonita. A waiter comes over and Miss LatinaSexy orders a Tecate. Miss CaraBonita doesn't speak English either. This girl is a hottie.
Meanwhile, the fat man gets up and walks over to me asking if I speak Spanish. I tell him no and he says the other girl, the one who isn't at the table, speaks English very well, he says good luck buddy, and then he leaves the bar. The third girl returns to the table, I get up to let her sit on the inside of the bench. And there we sit, me with three young, hot Latinas. I tell the third girl that I heard she speaks English. She says yes she does. Where are you from, I ask. "San Diego," she says. You live in San Diego? "Yes." Are you an American? "I'm a Mexican-American."
Still puzzling over the situation, I ask her what she is doing here with her friends. "It's my birthday. I'm nineteen today and these are my cousins. They live here." She's very pretty with dark brown hair pulled back, very cute, fine, facial features, busty, shapely body. Very petite. I'll call her Miss Mexi-Americana. I congratulate her on her birthday and ask if she would like a beer. She jumps on that right away and orders a Tecate. So, I tell her I think it's rather adventurous for her to be here in this bar. She giggles and agrees it is. They are clearly not working girls and this certainly is no place three hotties would choose to celebrate a birthday. It's a dive. So, I ask her, why are you here, what are you doing here of all places?
"Oh, my sister works here," Miss Mexi-Americana replies. "She only does dances and beer!" she quickly adds, making sure I understand that her sister is not a prostitute. With that she motions to a woman across the room to come over. Now we are joined by Miss FicheGirl who is in her late twenties, overweight, dressed provocatively and basically, to be blunt, looks the part. Miss FicheGirl rushes over and greets me warmly like a friend. She has a big smile with a deep dimple on one side and medium brown hair. Her personality is a 9 trapped in the body of a 6. Her English is fine but not perfect, she laughs that she has forgotten how to speak English.
Now the situation makes some kind of sense. A beautiful nineteen year old is celebrating her birthday with her two Mexican cousins. One is nineteen, the other is twenty. One cousin is strikingly beautiful, the other in a more subtle way even sexier. Their family situation has been difficult and broken up. Their father is ill and unable to care for himself, let alone the family. The older sister works here as a fiche girl. She has to work on Friday nights, so her sister and her cousins come here to be together in a rundown bar in the Red Zone of Tijuana. This is real life stuff.
So, there I sit, after midnight, with four Latinas. I start to excuse myself and tell them it was so nice to meet them but I don't want to intrude further on their family celebration. The birthday girl, Miss Mexi-Americana, asks me to stay and Miss FicheGirl says "No, you're celebrating with us!" She grabs my hand and says let's go dance! And off we go to the dance floor. We return and I buy everyone a round. The song [i]La Chica Sexy[/i] by a local band, Los Tucanes de Tijuana, starts playing. This song gained some popularity a few year ago. Miss Mexi-Americana says we have to dance to this and pushes me out with her. Dancing with her I realize that she is only about 4'8" and very well-stacked. In the USA, the chances of me dancing with a gorgeous nineteen year old are somewhere between zero and nothing.
And so it goes for more than three hours, taking turns dancing with them, sometimes dancing with all of them. The FicheGirl drifts back and forth dancing with clients and then returning. Then something strange happens. A local comes up and says something to me in Spanish pointing to one of the girls. I ask FicheGirl what he what he is saying. She says, you are the man at this table, he wants your permission to dance with my cousin. I ask Miss LatinaSexy if she wants to dance with this man and she readily agrees, so I grant permission. This goes on throughout the evening, a local will come up to the table and ask my permission to dance with one of "my" girls (My own Latina posse, ha!). If she wants to go I give permission, if she doesn't, I decline.
A photographer shows up and FicheGirl insists that I get a photograph. I decline mostly out of embarrassment. But she will hear none of this and insists that I have photo to remember this night. She makes all the girls stand up and get in front of me. At 5'7" I tower over all of them. The photo turns out great. Now, Miss Mexi-Americana says they're hungry and will probably be going to get something to eat, do I want to go with them or stay here? I say I'll be heading back to my room now and she asks if I'm sure. Yes, but thanks anyway for a lovely evening. But FicheGirl says no way, I cannot leave them, I must go with them to eat.
Meanwhile, a fight breaks out in the bar and within about 90 seconds there are 7 or 8 cops here. They quickly sort things out. One young cop comes over to flirt with Miss CaraBonita, she also likes him and flirts with him. How rude. He didn't even ask my permission!
Well, the police decide to close the bar because of the fight. And we find ourselves on the street wondering where to go to get something to eat at 3:15 am. Miss Mexi-Americana suggests hot dogs from a street vendor. I say no to that quickly. We should find someplace inside to sit down. Miss FicheGirl says there is a restaurant around the corner. I realize she is talking about Restaurante Montecarlo, the restaurant next to Adelita Bar. I confirm that's what she means and she says yes, let's go. So, I proudly lead my Latina posse through the crowd around the corner and past Adelita Bar to dine with the putas at Montecarlo.
We grab the only empty booth, get menus, and order. Miss Mexi-Americana gets sopa verduras con camarones, Miss LatinaSexy gets carne asada, FicheGirl and CaraBonita get camarones frito, and I simply get frijoles y arroz. We eat our food and enjoy watching the putas come and go with their scandalous attire. The girls make plans to visit their father in the hospital the next day. I take out the photo and look at it. Then I realize that I should have gotten a photo for them. I ask FicheGirl if she would like to keep this photo to remember her sister's birthday. She says she would like that very, very much. So, I give her the photo of us.
We finish dinner. I thank each of them for sharing their family celebration with me. Four warm, genuine Latina women who gave me a night I'll remember for a long time.
I have done the TJ thing many, many time. I am making my next trip back to TJ in the next 3-6 weeks. I was looking for anyone with any experience with a good escort service. I was thinking of a 2-3 hour session with a hot latina. I would prefer this be at my hotel (maybe Puebleo Amigo where I have stayed before).
Onething I am really looking for is a hot chica who would allow GREEK. Otherwise I would probably just stick with the CC/AB crowd.
You can either reply here or PM me.
[QUOTE=Country John]Well, if you ARE a God Fearing Man, the place is convenient for slipping in for saying your prayers and lightly confessing. Yu should try it sometimes Bluenose, you're way overdue for a solid confession!!! Are you in TJ?
Country John[/QUOTE]
I'm so overdue for confession that I will be immediately struck down if I even try to enter that place...so, for now I think I'll just stick with "observer" status as I walk to Las Chevalas.
I actually have not been down for a while as I have been busy traveling (on business) all over the place. I will be heading down within the next 2-3 weeks and I will definitely email you before I go. I can't wait to hear all about the business and to see you and Adela. How's the crime and policia situation these days? Any calmer now? Are the gringos staying away because of this?
Donnie D - sounds good. Let me know when you're coming into town. At the very least, I can show you around a little and help get you on your way.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]I'm so overdue for confession that I will be immediately struck down if I even try to enter that place...so, for now I think I'll just stick with "observer" status as I walk to Las Chevalas.
I actually have not been down for a while as I have been busy traveling (on business) all over the place. I will be heading down within the next 2-3 weeks and I will definitely email you before I go. I can't wait to hear all about the business and to see you and Adela. How's the crime and policia situation these days? Any calmer now? Are the gringos staying away because of this?
Donnie D - sounds good. Let me know when you're coming into town. At the very least, I can show you around a little and help get you on your way.
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
Sunday night was slow in the zona, the cops are a bit more aggressive so behave. Take your viagra in the farmacia. Adela sends saludos and yes, we should hook up for dinner or something.
About that confession, I can hear it over dinner so don't sweat it.
Country John
CJ and BN,
You guys must know each other.
I will definitely send you guys my info a week before arrival. I am looking forward to seeing the places mentioned. As of now, it looks like my friends and I will be down there 24 May (trip will be 4 days).
In the mean time, I'm working on plans to go back to Rio De Janiero for the 3rd time. Hit Rio for 10 days in April, the TJ late May. Great way to start the summer.
The more I think about it, I wish I knew what to expect in TJ. I usually spend about 3K for a 10 day trip to Rio. I'm thinking I could get away with 1000 for a 4 day visit down south, then go again in May for another 1000. That'll be just 2000. So I will save the other 1000. Let me sleep on it.
Donnie
[QUOTE=Donnie D]CJ and BN,
You guys must know each other.
I will definitely send you guys my info a week before arrival. I am looking forward to seeing the places mentioned. As of now, it looks like my friends and I will be down there 24 May (trip will be 4 days).
In the mean time, I'm working on plans to go back to Rio De Janiero for the 3rd time. Hit Rio for 10 days in April, the TJ late May. Great way to start the summer.
The more I think about it, I wish I knew what to expect in TJ. I usually spend about 3K for a 10 day trip to Rio. I'm thinking I could get away with 1000 for a 4 day visit down south, then go again in May for another 1000. That'll be just 2000. So I will save the other 1000. Let me sleep on it.
Donnie[/QUOTE]
Donnie, you should be fine with that kind of money but here's one tip: NEVER talk about stuff like that on a public board. It's fine to talk about money but not how much you'll have on you when yo arrive etc. It's a personal security issue.
Always keep your personal stuff personal, don't let anyone look up your skirt. If you're bringing a million dollars, cool but don't let anyone else know that.
We like to believe that everyone reading this board is a solid citizen. Wrongo bongo. Now BlueNose will be looking for you to buy his beer.....sheesh....
Country John
Finally I will be back down in TJ this Saturday night and will spend the night visiting strip clubs on Revo and Zona. Anyone wants to hook up?
Prologue: If I have doubled posted this message, please accept my apologies.
[QUOTE=Donnie D]CJ and BN,
The more I think about it, I wish I knew what to expect in TJ. I usually spend [. . . .] I'm thinking I could get away with 1000 for a 4 day visit down south [. . . .]
Donnie[/QUOTE]"What to expect in TJ". The seeming naivete is kind of cute. Actually, I'm not sure what Donnie is getting at: whether it's just the expenses, or "what kind of place is Tijuana?". I dare to assume it's the latter.
Start with a foundation of Newark, New Jersey (is San Pedro, California another Newark?). Lay on: downtown sidewalk throngs as dense as in Manhattan, at least in the daylight; police force like in a southern Gothic movie circa 1960; warring organized crime gangs that roam the city waging battle, like in 1920s Chicago.
Tijuana is a former podunk that in just 50 or 40 years has mushroomed into a booming metropolis -- sort of like Chicago between 1850 and 1890. Tijuana's economy is based on low wage assembly plants (and maybe also on drug shipping). Its population growth is on the order of 100 percent a decade.
Please don't misunderstand -- by all means go and enjoy the ZN. But just be real as to what this city's attractions are. (As for the ZN, a major selling point would be that you're dealing with women, domestic women, who're selling themselves, as opposed to imported women who are b e i n g sold.) The Pacific beaches, the zoo and the museums and the family fare and the arts scene, are not world class fabulous. By the way, be sure to visit the San Diego zoo (no, I do not have any business relationship with that zoo).
May I humbly suggest to newbies that they end their first foray to Tijuana by returning back to the US in the daylight and on foot, just to get the layout of the area by the crossing station: the pedestrian overpasses, the buildings, etc. (Once you've made it across, you can choose to head right back to Tijuana.)
Do you want to become a lamb in the wilderness? Here's one easy way: drive into Mexico without purchasing Mexican auto insurance (inexpensive, sold by the day, Google it). If you insist on driving into Mexico, first stop off in San Ysidro, within a mile of the border, to buy the insurance at one of the dozens of vendors you can locate by their freeway billboards or their shop signs as you cruise through the neighborhood.
[QUOTE=Embel]Prologue: If I have doubled posted this message, please accept my apologies.
"What to expect in TJ". The seeming naivete is kind of cute. Actually, I'm not sure what Donnie is getting at: whether it's just the expenses, or "what kind of place is Tijuana?". I dare to assume it's the latter.
Start with a foundation of Newark, New Jersey (is San Pedro, California another Newark?). Lay on: downtown sidewalk throngs as dense as in Manhattan, at least in the daylight; police force like in a southern Gothic movie circa 1960; warring organized crime gangs that roam the city waging battle, like in 1920s Chicago.
Tijuana is a former podunk that in just 50 or 40 years has mushroomed into a booming metropolis -- sort of like Chicago between 1850 and 1890. Tijuana's economy is based on low wage assembly plants (and maybe also on drug shipping). Its population growth is on the order of 100 percent a decade.
Please don't misunderstand -- by all means go and enjoy the ZN. But just be real as to what this city's attractions are. (As for the ZN, a major selling point would be that you're dealing with women, domestic women, who're selling themselves, as opposed to imported women who are b e i n g sold.) The Pacific beaches, the zoo and the museums and the family fare and the arts scene, are not world class fabulous. By the way, be sure to visit the San Diego zoo (no, I do not have any business relationship with that zoo).
May I humbly suggest to newbies that they end their first foray to Tijuana by returning back to the US in the daylight and on foot, just to get the layout of the area by the crossing station: the pedestrian overpasses, the buildings, etc. (Once you've made it across, you can choose to head right back to Tijuana.)
Do you want to become a lamb in the wilderness? Here's one easy way: drive into Mexico without purchasing Mexican auto insurance (inexpensive, sold by the day, Google it). If you insist on driving into Mexico, first stop off in San Ysidro, within a mile of the border, to buy the insurance at one of the dozens of vendors you can locate by their freeway billboards or their shop signs as you cruise through the neighborhood.[/QUOTE]
Nice.
Tijuana is one place where you feel almost instantly the fact that what Americans have come to know as "civilized" society has not yet found it's way into this part of the world. The place has an edge to it that keeps you slightly off balance and maybe somewhat insecure.
But that's the allure.
Tourists are generally safe as long as they behave. I've been living here for almost the past two years and I'm very comfortable but still guarded. This is one place where you NEVER let your guard down. Finding the balance between being comfortable and yet secure takes some work but it's worth it IMHO.
The only thing anyone can expect with certainty is a very difference ambience, not necessarily a more dangerous environment despite what you hear.
I agree: Visit Mexico. Visit Tijuana. But read the fucking board. Do your research. Understand the risks associated with your reasons for coming here. Browsing the leather shops on Revolution is very different from strolling the Zona Norte, that's for sure.
I happen to like Mexico. The social vineer is very very thin here and most people are genuinely nice or not. It's easy to get along etc.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]Donnie, you should be fine with that kind of money but here's one tip: NEVER talk about stuff like that on a public board. It's fine to talk about money but not how much you'll have on you when yo arrive etc. It's a personal security issue.
Always keep your personal stuff personal, don't let anyone look up your skirt. If you're bringing a million dollars, cool but don't let anyone else know that.
We like to believe that everyone reading this board is a solid citizen. Wrongo bongo. Now BlueNose will be looking for you to buy his beer.....sheesh....
Country John[/QUOTE]
Come on now CJ. You gotta be kidding. You're thinking I am too naive. I did not mean I'd be travelling there with a grand in my hand (or pocket). I was referring to how much I may end up spending on the 4 day trip altogether. I was including the flight, hotel, food, drinks and ladies.
Of course most people, like me, will use an ATM on the U.S. side and only take across the border what they plan on spending that particular day.
[QUOTE=Embel]
"What to expect in TJ". The seeming naivete is kind of cute. Actually, I'm not sure what Donnie is getting at: whether it's just the expenses, or "what kind of place is Tijuana?". I dare to assume it's the latter. [/QUOTE]
Gents,
My thoughts were more rhetorical in nature.
Rhetorical question - my asking what to expect not to gain information but to assert more emphatically the obvious answer.
I've already read the forum - therefore homework is completed. Also, if I do make the trip, I will be travelling with 3 friends who have been there every year for the past 4 years. So they know the ropes in TJ. Plus they are all Hispanic.
I do appreciate the comments. However, I was not really looking for a response as to 'what to expect' - but I will offer an elaborated answer to what I was referring to. I was actually thinking out loud (as I typed) about what I can expect from the women. After seeing women in Europe and Brazil, I was just thinking what the experience would be like with women south of the border. Thats all. My buddies have been down there and can go on and on about TJ. But they have never been to Rio or Italy, Spain, Germany, Romania, Prague, etc. So thye can only talk about TJ. I'm hoping my good experiences can be repeated in TJ.
Hope that clears the cloudy air.
[QUOTE=Donnie D]Gents,
My thoughts were more rhetorical in nature.
Rhetorical question - my asking what to expect not to gain information but to assert more emphatically the obvious answer.
I've already read the forum - therefore homework is completed. Also, if I do make the trip, I will be travelling with 3 friends who have been there every year for the past 4 years. So they know the ropes in TJ. Plus they are all Hispanic.
I do appreciate the comments. However, I was not really looking for a response as to 'what to expect' - but I will offer an elaborated answer to what I was referring to. I was actually thinking out loud (as I typed) about what I can expect from the women. After seeing women in Europe and Brazil, I was just thinking what the experience would be like with women south of the border. Thats all. My buddies have been down there and can go on and on about TJ. But they have never been to Rio or Italy, Spain, Germany, Romania, Prague, etc. So thye can only talk about TJ. I'm hoping my good experiences can be repeated in TJ.
Hope that clears the cloudy air.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for clearing that up.
Be safe and be nice.
Country John
I first started going to TJ almost 20 years ago. After enjoying the Revolution Clubs--Bambi, Unicorn, etc. in those early days, where some nights were like wild orgies with guys sucking on bare titties in the booths and at the tables while they were being jerked off at the same time, one fine day I stumbled over to the Zona Norte where the the streets were lined with SW for $10 USD. This was sometime around the late 1980s and I was hooked. Yes, they were ten bucks a pop! And the rooms were $2. The girls were "easier" too, without the rampant upselling you get today, where everything is "extra" and the attitude often changes for the worse once you get inside the room. There were also more simple girls from the countryside---darker Indian girls wearing older, country clothes, not the hot hooker outfits you see a lot of today.
During the last few years I've gone to TJ less and less. I've learned to expect much less from the place I loved in "the good old days". Now the street girls are still programmed for a 15 minute quickie session, but the price is $20-30USD sin ropa and the no-pussy touching, no tit-sucking rules come up more and more. The rooms that are clean are 5-6 bucks and the Adelita girls are asking for $60 and the rooms are $12USD for the 20-30 minute session last time I was there. Suddenly, several $40 experiences on the street and one or two $70 experiences at a club is getting to be an expensive day...and then it just isn't worth the boring, tedious 2 hour drive in each direction! Sure in LA it's $100-150 for the same little Latina on this side of the border, but fuck, I hate that drive. And here in LA the girl is giving you the GFE for at least 1/2 hour or more, not just pulling down her panties to the ankles for 15 minutes and staring at the ceiling.
Also, anyone who has had the opportunity to travel to Thailand or the Dominican Republic knows what high levels mongering can reach.....short time means 1-2 hour sessions as a rule, complete, full on, sometimes TLN sessions, no holds barred, in your own clean and comfortable hotel room for $30-50 and an unending supply of girls willing and wanting to please. After such trips, sadly, TJ feels sorely lacking in most departments. Just IMHO....what I've learned to expect from my old stomping grounds.
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[QUOTE=Member #2128]I first started going to TJ almost 20 years ago. After enjoying the Revolution Clubs--Bambi, Unicorn, etc. in those early days, where some nights were like wild orgies with guys sucking on bare titties in the booths and at the tables while they were being jerked off at the same time, one fine day I stumbled over to the Zona Norte where the the streets were lined with SW for $10 USD. This was sometime around the late 1980s and I was hooked. Yes, they were ten bucks a pop! And the rooms were $2. The girls were "easier" too, without the rampant upselling you get today, where everything is "extra" and the attitude often changes for the worse once you get inside the room. There were also more simple girls from the countryside---darker Indian girls wearing older, country clothes, not the hot hooker outfits you see a lot of today.
During the last few years I've gone to TJ less and less. I've learned to expect much less from the place I loved in "the good old days". Now the street girls are still programmed for a 15 minute quickie session, but the price is $20-30USD sin ropa and the no-pussy touching, no tit-sucking rules come up more and more. The rooms that are clean are 5-6 bucks and the Adelita girls are asking for $60 and the rooms are $12USD for the 20-30 minute session last time I was there. Suddenly, several $40 experiences on the street and one or two $70 experiences at a club is getting to be an expensive day...and then it just isn't worth the boring, tedious 2 hour drive in each direction! Sure in LA it's $100-150 for the same little Latina on this side of the border, but fuck, I hate that drive. And here in LA the girl is giving you the GFE for at least 1/2 hour or more, not just pulling down her panties to the ankles for 15 minutes and staring at the ceiling.
Also, anyone who has had the opportunity to travel to Thailand or the Dominican Republic knows what high levels mongering can reach.....short time means 1-2 hour sessions as a rule, complete, full on, sometimes TLN sessions, no holds barred, in your own clean and comfortable hotel room for $30-50 and an unending supply of girls willing and wanting to please. After such trips, sadly, TJ feels sorely lacking in most departments. Just IMHO....what I've learned to expect from my old stomping grounds.
#2128[/QUOTE]
Thats exactly what I was talking about. I may make a trip down there with some friends to see for myself. Just because these are old friends, they need an excuse to get out and we can catch a few ball games while in town. But I've been asking them about their experiences and I'm not getting a warm feeling. After being in other countries and treated well, I'm afraid I will be disappointed when I do visit TJ. Sure, I'll still have fun seeing the places, drinking, and fucking. But I will leave with a blah feeling. My expectations will have to be adjusted prior to the trip.
Then the following month I will leave for South America!!!
Thanks 2128. Donnie
If you can erase all the memories from your trips to Brazil, you should be fine. Unfortunately, it will be hard to do and you may be a little disapointed. I live in L.A. throughout my life so tj was my first mongering stop. I had nothing to compare it to except for the high price chicks in the states. Beautiful chicas at a low price in tj versuse hot chicks but high prices in the states. The two hour drive was worth it.
Fast forward many years when I could actually afford trips to Brazil and Thailand and other places. My favorite destination is Brazil. The passion, looks and the overall gfe the gdp give, is second to none. Not to say you can't find a good gfe in tj, but it is harder to find.
In my over 20 years going to tj, I have only had 4 Brazilian type gfe. They are there, just harder to find.
Do I still go to tj? Yes, as many times as I can. Why? Because I can put in perpective the difference in culture between Mexico and So. America.
Should you go? In my opinion, yes. Don't expect the Brazilian gfe, but if you are lucky, you just might get one. Also, in tj, when you go upstairs to the hotel, expect the knock on the door to tell you time is up, whereas in Brazil, if the girl likes you, the knock will never come.
Hope this helps and I hope you have a great time in tj.
Q
Hi there fellow mongers.
After nearly 20 years exploring the red zones of the Philippines, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Australia, I finally got around to TJ and the zona in '95. I've not been back since '03 but am planning a trip soon. ( I used to live in San Diego).
The one thing learned was to expect the unexpected. It's more fun that way !
Once I was relaxing at Chevales, took a seat by the stage to enjoy the show which was about to begin, then somebody tapped my shoulder. It was a so-so chica who said her friend sitting at the bar would like to meet me (now I'm thinking "is this a new scam of some kind ? "). The chica pointed out her friend, and she was definitely attractive. Wow attractive, killer body.
I motioned for her to come on over, she did. The strip show was starting but I wasn't interested in that anymore, so I escorted her to another table away from the stage and bought her a drink. After the requisite polite chit-chat, I learned that she was now sort of a semi-pro, having worked at Manhatten on a limied basis. It was an easy negotiation for a $50 pop, the best I ever had in TJ, and the closest thing to a GFE for me.
I will never forget her, never saw her again, and believe me I had an eye out for her ever since.
On a final note, this forum is great!
[quote=country john]nice.
tijuana is one place where you feel almost instantly the fact that what americans have come to know as "civilized" society has not yet found it's way into this part of the world. the place has an edge to it that keeps you slightly off balance and maybe somewhat insecure.
but that's the allure.
tourists are generally safe as long as they behave. i've been living here for almost the past two years and i'm very comfortable but still guarded. this is one place where you never let your guard down. finding the balance between being comfortable and yet secure takes some work but it's worth it imho.
the only thing anyone can expect with certainty is a very difference ambience, not necessarily a more dangerous environment despite what you hear.
i happen to like mexico. the social vineer is very very thin here and most people are genuinely nice or not. it's easy to get along etc.
country john[/quote]
well put. since people are asking philisophical, open ended questions, please allow me to put in my philipsophical and somewhat rambling two cents on this matter.
for me personally, i think the things that i like the most about tj and mexico are the same things that prevent other americans from going there in the first place. the fact that it is rough around the edges - to me that just means that the place, and its people, have character. i like the fact that it is kind of gritty, and that you are never sure what may happen next. so many places (houses, neighborhoods, businesses, shopping malls, even gas stations) in the us and in socal have become cookie cutter pleasantville type places - clean, well lighted sterile and oh so dull. i live in a nice area here, and i am lucky to do so, but some days it just bores the hell out of me, and i find myself wishing i was in tj.
like most in mexico and the rest of latin america, the people in tj are survivors. life is not nearly as easy for them as we have come to expect it to be. travelling one half mile south of the border, you will realize just how unfair life is. like people who live anywhere where life is more of a struggle than what we are used to, the people of tj and mexico typically have more character, more soul, if you will, than their counterparts in the us. the whole mantra of "less is more" seems to ring true in mexico - the people there certainly have less than we have in terms of material goods, but they value their relationships with family and friends much more than we do. i have had many pleasant conversations with mexican men and women who really are wonderful people - nice, humble, friendly and generous. i have bought countless beers for guys in mexico only to have them return the favor on the next round.
to summarize, i think in many ways that during a trip to mexico, you will see what you want to see, depending on your point of view. while most americans (from their posts north of the border) see a somewhat backwards, developing country with a large population of poor people, or a place where women and beer are cheaper than back home, others choose to peel back the onion a bit and see beyond the surface. those of us fortunate enough to be able to visit mexico and spend some time getting to know it find something entirely different.
i love tj. i love the grittiness, the sense of adventure, the lack of social structure and civil regulations and most of all the people. hopefully, with time, you will see it the way that i do and learn to like it also. no matter what is happening in the rest of my life, it always keeps me coming back for more.
blue nose
There may be many who are already aware of this, but there are at least three videos available online of TJ street girls .. each varying in length from 2.5 to 4.5 minutes. Search key = 'Tijuana street girls' in Google, YouTube .. etc.
Hard to say how recent the videos are, all btw provided by the same guy. I found it interesting, in asmuch as I haven't been down to the zona in a few years now. The videos do reflect the way I remember the girls and the streets themselves.
That said, if anyone should happen to have a look at these and confirm (or deny) that at least some of the locales are in the 'alley'?
Thanx,
Wm54
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]
I love TJ. I love the grittiness, the sense of adventure, the lack of social structure and civil regulations and most of all the people. Hopefully, with time, you will see it the way that I do and learn to like it also. No matter what is happening in the rest of my life, it always keeps me coming back for more.
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
Well put Blue Nose
To add my 2cents in: No matter where you are, the major things that really make any place bearable are your relationships with the people. It's all just a matter of perspective & taste where you enjoy living. I think you've reached a certain wisdom when you can appreciate new experiences in new places for what they are & try to understand other people & their way of life. I've learned a lot & I've also come to appreciate the many advantages of living in the US. I've learned to appreciate them even more since I've experienced living in other places where things are perhaps not as "civilized" or "modern." Yet there is a certain beauty to living a simpler life. To each his own.
Latest health monitoring news: half blow off some of their monthly checkups.
Beg pardon for submitting something so long and it's not even a trip report. But it is all about the chicas' bodies, so I'm sure we're all still interested.
The first news report appeared just three days ago in a Tijuana newspaper (in Spanish, of course). It's at their Web site. Interestingly, the article's last paragraphs are missing from the paper's own Web page, but a different Tijuana news site has the complete version.
Tijuana's prostitute monitoring system was also the subject of a feature in the New York Times on Dec. 31, 2005 by James C. McKinley, Jr. (see excerpts below).
from FRONTERA (the Tijuana daily), March 16, 2007
. . . Only half of the nearly six thousand sexoservidoras [sex servants] registered with the Municipal Health authority regularly report for their checkups, states Manuel Mayor Noriega, chief of the department of Health Inspection. [For you Spanish challenged, the guy's *main* surname is *Mayor*, not Noriega.]
There are presently 5,860 persons working in prostitution who have registered with the Municipality [of Tijuana], of which around 100 are of the male gender, he indicated, and only 50 percent come in for testing monthly. Some come in every three to four months.
. . . many are transients in Tijuana, he said; they come into town for just a few days.
Mayor indicated that last year, eleven sexoservidoras tested positive for HIV. Persons who test positive are referred to the General Hospital and are reported to the Secretariat of Health. Their health card is also pulled permanently.
The prostitutes more often test positive for syphilis or gonorrhea.
Jorge Larrieu C., director of Muncipal Inspection and Verfication, said that when police conduct roundups of sexoservidoras, the fraction of them that have expired health cards or no card at all is 10 to 15 percent.
Sexoservidoras with a health card [from the Municipality]
2004: 2,500
September 2006: 4,624
March 2007: 5,860
Source: Dirección Municipal de Salud.
Costs [current exchange rate is 11.1 pesos to one dollar]
Health card, 568.98 pesos
Lab culture exam (monthly) 189.64 pesos
HIV test (every four months) 379.27 pesos
Source: Control Sanitario [Health Inspection].
One sexoservidora said, "It seems the fees we pay are high because we get no services. If we test positive for something, they don't give us a prescription, they send us to another doctor, and we have to go to whichever doctor they choose."
* * *
Excerpts of what the New York Times reported on New Year's Eve 2005 (they interviewed the same Manuel Mayor).
"The city has also begun issuing new credentials to prostitutes to replace the old pink booklets. The new licenses look like a credit card with a photo. A magnetic strip on the back allows health inspectors with hand-held scanners to check the card-holder's medical status in seconds.
"If a person is infected at the time when they read the credential, there will appear a red light that says she cannot work," said Manuel Mayor Noriega, who runs the city health clinic for prostitutes.
"Though there are still laws against prostitution on the books, the sex trade has long been part of the atmosphere in downtown Tijuana, a city that bloomed from a tiny town during Prohibition around bars, casinos, brothels and racetracks.
". . . Martha Montejano, a city councilwoman who pushed through the new law at the behest of Mayor Jorge Hank Rhon, said the city has legalized the sex trade for all intents and purposes, in hopes of stopping the spread of disease.
". . . Dr. Jorge Alvelais Palacios runs a clinic at the state hospital here where free H.I.V. tests are available. He estimated that, according to preliminary data, between 10 and 12 percent of the people in the sex trade who come to his clinic test positive." [Article doesn't say how many persons this is and how broad a territory they come from.]
". . . Dr. Mayor said the incidence of AIDS in women registered with the city clinic is very low - with only three cases detected so far this year. All were women who had arrived from other cities and were seeking a credential to work. The incidence of syphilis and gonorrhea is similarly small, less than five cases of each discovered this year, he said."
END
[QUOTE=Country John]Nice.
Tijuana is one place where you feel almost instantly the fact that what Americans have come to know as "civilized" society has not yet found it's way into this part of the world. The place has an edge to it that keeps you slightly off balance and maybe somewhat insecure.
[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of a cartoon I saw years ago in the newspaper. Two guys sitting at a bar, one of them reading a newspaper with a worried look on his face. The other says to him: civilization as you know it may about to end, but civilization as I know it is about to begin.
It's a matter of perspective, gentlemen.
[QUOTE=Embel]Latest health monitoring news: half blow off some of their monthly checkups.
Beg pardon for submitting something so long and it's not even a trip report. END[/QUOTE]
Ther has to be 'ONE' ___________ (you fill in the blank) in every forum -
This should be posted in the General Information or Safety section.
If its not a TJ report for mongering and the like find another place to post.
Donnie D
[QUOTE=Adelante Siempre]Reminds me of a cartoon I saw years ago in the newspaper. Two guys sitting at a bar, one of them reading a newspaper with a worried look on his face. The other says to him: civilization as you know it may about to end, but civilization as I know it is about to begin.
It's a matter of perspective, gentlemen.[/QUOTE]
True. Included in the equation are experiences. Look, America is a great country and I'm not trying to knock it, neither is BlueNose. No disrespect to America or Americans is intended and I apologize if any were inferred or taken. Not that you are suggesting same, just wanted to clear the air.
Mongers,
All of us, including myself, are always worried about geting caught with the valuable pills on us by the Tijuanero lawmen. The Tijuanero laws state that you can have these meds on you as long as you have a Rx from a Tijuanero doctor. A US doctor Rx is not valid in TJ.
Hasn't anybody here figured out where the cheap Tijuanero doctor is at that will just write a Rx for a few pesos. I don't think they really need to exam you. They are just as corrupt and lazy as the Tijuanero lawmen. I am sure a "mordida" (bribe) is all it takes for him to sign that little piece of paper.
Someone's got to have a connection in this town. Please share. Then all the paranioa will end at making it back to the Pedistrian bridge. Next time I go, I'll find a doctor and post. But until then, we are probably looking at another 6 months. I'm slowly weening off the very addicitng Tijuana drug. Las putas de la Zona. The monthly trips have dropped down to quarterly and now bi-yearly.
Country John. You provide alot of details on the cops, laws, streets, restaurants, dating, regular clubs, and hot dog stands. You are like a TJ almanac. What about a doctor recommendation? Hook us all up.
Peace!
[QUOTE=Pico1972]Mongers,
All of us, including myself, are always worried about geting caught with the valuable pills on us by the Tijuanero lawmen. The Tijuanero laws state that you can have these meds on you as long as you have a Rx from a Tijuanero doctor. A US doctor Rx is not valid in TJ.
Hasn't anybody here figured out where the cheap Tijuanero doctor is at that will just write a Rx for a few pesos. I don't think they really need to exam you. They are just as corrupt and lazy as the Tijuanero lawmen. I am sure a "mordida" (bribe) is all it takes for him to sign that little piece of paper.
Someone's got to have a connection in this town. Please share. Then all the paranioa will end at making it back to the Pedistrian bridge. Next time I go, I'll find a doctor and post. But until then, we are probably looking at another 6 months. I'm slowly weening off the very addicitng Tijuana drug. Las putas de la Zona. The monthly trips have dropped down to quarterly and now bi-yearly.
Country John. You provide alot of details on the cops, laws, streets, restaurants, dating, regular clubs, and hot dog stands. You are like a TJ almanac. What about a doctor recommendation? Hook us all up.
Peace![/QUOTE]I have not done this in a while, but use to be go to the nearest pharmacy and ask to see a doctor for whatever you need, I paid $25 for the doctor and i forgot how much for the pills.
I have talked to other mongers and was told the price is now $35 I could be wrong, but this is what I use to do, but no longer I will not take the chance and get thrown in some shithole that they call a jail.
Happy Hunting
Hey CJ,
How's everything down there?
Are the cops behaving?
I haven't been there for about two months, I do things different now, I don't go and pick up girls at random anymore, I have a HOT FAV, for a TLN, just got tired of the same thing over and over in AB, the mechanical thing was keeping me back home so I'm keeping her for now and you guys keep your hands off her, LOL, every time I see her she wants a TLN she's not showing very much interest
in a lot of money, she just wants some good company and have some laughs, that's the kind of girl I like to F**k, so I'm saving up some $$ for June,
I'm recovering from financially damages of too many TJ love trips, I rather spend the $$ once for a TLN, than split the dough x 4 times in and out rush thing!
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Hey CJ,
How's everything down there?
Are the cops behaving?
I haven't been there for about two months, I do things different now, I don't go and pick up girls at random anymore, I have a HOT FAV, for a TLN, just got tired of the same thing over and over in AB, the mechanical thing was keeping me back home so I'm keeping her for now and you guys keep your hands off her, LOL, every time I see her she wants a TLN she's not showing very much interest
in a lot of money, she just wants some good company and have some laughs, that's the kind of girl I like to F**k, so I'm saving up some $$ for June,
I'm recovering from financially damages of too many TJ love trips, I rather spend the $$ once for a TLN, than split the dough x 4 times in and out rush thing![/QUOTE]
Hi HT.
Everything is OK down here right now.
I spent sunday in the Zona with my girley just walking around, talking to people (including the cops). I met one of the cops who worked out in the Los Pinos area, he was "transferred" to the Zona Norte area. We carried on like we were old "buds." I bought him coffee late at night as I was leaving and gave him 20p for another coffee later on every night. Always wished him well etc, told him to be safe. The guy remembered me and approached me as I was walking along the Zona. Very cool.
The cops seems to be behaving. I did notice several guys get searched but that's "par" of the course. Like I said before, just keep your act clean and you'll be OK.
There was a lot of foot traffic on Sunday, especially int he Alley. Lots of girls on the South side, some very young ladies and lookers too.
Yeah, Adelitas gets old after a while that's for sure. The place is loud, the DJ is a jerk and the service sucks. It sure has changed since the old days. I miss the old AB.
Bar Tropical still have the same feel though, so I'd suggest that guys go there instead of AB. Bar Tropical is now what AB used to be, at least that's the feel I get from the place.
Got yourself a girley eh? Watch her closely and have a good time. Enjoy the ride while it lasts because not many turn into lasting relationships. That's not to say none do, but FEW do. As long as you are enjoying yourself and you're not paying for pappas brain operation, you'll be fine. Be on the lookout for warning signs: requests for money etc. It can creep up on you. Unless you know now that you won;t have a problem helping her out, develop a mechanism for dealing with it. If she's in it for the money, she'll bounce if you don;t pay her so watch that carefully.
Many mongers don;t realize that hookers are people too. While Americans take great pains to plan every inch of their life, in Mexico the girls only get to take things as they come along and therefore tend to be short sighted and develop an talent for siezing opportunities. Be aware of that. On the bright side, show them your heart and they will give you their life. The right girl can be the last one you'll ever need.
Latinas are very durable girls, they're tough and resilient. So take it one step at a time, learn the culture because it's a big part of what makes them tick.
Things seemed to have calmed down in the Zona. There are more "auxillar" cops on foot patrol these days so I was right when I said it is a "training ground" for a lot of recruits. That's no reason to let your guard down because these guys are "new school."
Be safe and be nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]
The cops seems to be behaving. I did notice several guys get searched but that's "par" of the course. Like I said before, just keep your act clean and you'll be OK.
Country John[/QUOTE]
That's ol it is!
[QUOTE=Country John]
Got yourself a girley eh? Watch her closely and have a good time. Enjoy the ride while it lasts because not many turn into lasting relationships. That's not to say none do, but FEW do. As long as you are enjoying yourself and you're not paying for pappas brain operation, you'll be fine. Be on the lookout for warning signs: requests for money etc. It can creep up on you.
Country John[/QUOTE]
That's the best part of it, she quoted me a number,+ dinner/movies and not a penny more.
PD: CJ please do me a favor?
I lost my girl's cell#, any chance you might know AB phone# if you got it PM
me. Thanks.............
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]That's ol it is!
That's the best part of it, she quoted me a number,+ dinner/movies and not a penny more.
PD: CJ please do me a favor?
I lost my girl's cell#, any chance you might know AB phone# if you got it PM
me. Thanks.............[/QUOTE]
Sorry mate, I no longer have contact info for the hotels. But if she works at AB then she lives at the Cohilla hotel, just above the club (if she does not have a place off property).
Don;t worry, she'll keep and you can update your info when you next see her.
Country John
You might be pleased to hear that the cops have reduced their presence at the drop off point. (Sentry).
Apparrently the reason for this is that there have been amountain of complaints about toursts being robbed, and since "honest cops" are the only ones allowed to work there, the position will go un-manned.
While it might be a good thing, it should also raise your caution level because the rateros might be a bit more bold. Travel in packs if you are walking the pesdestrian bridge. Be safe. Be aware. DO NOT walk alone at night.
Keep in mind that since the TJ cops are not there "officially," some might sieze the opportunity to do some "unofficial" business if you are walking the route alone at night, so DON'T WALK ALONE AT NIGHT.
Country John
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]
CJ please do me a favor?
I lost my girl's cell#, any chance you might know AB phone# if you got it PM me. Thanks.............[/QUOTE]
HT,
Here is the info you requested. found at [url]www.adelitabar.com[/url]
San Diego South/San Ysidro Travelodge
643 East San Ysidro Blvd.
San Ysidro, CA 92173 USA
Tel: 619-428-2800
Donnie D
It's supposed to be Spring Break right now, I believe. What's it like in the Zona at this time? I was thinking of going this weekend but not if its going to be overcrowded with annoying and rowdy college kiddies. So what should I expect if I go? And is it spring break, or is spring break over?
[QUOTE=Donnie D]HT,
Here is the info you requested. found at [url]www.adelitabar.com[/url]
San Diego South/San Ysidro Travelodge
643 East San Ysidro Blvd.
San Ysidro, CA 92173 USA
Tel: 619-428-2800
Donnie D[/QUOTE]
Donnie D, you are a star for searching for your fellow Monger, but the above info is NOT for Adelitas Bar, it is for the San Diego South/San Ysidro Travelodge in California, not Tijuana.
I'll be in the Zona tomorrow night having some cervesas with my girlie at Bar Tropical. I'll swing by, get the info and post it tomorrow night.
Sorry I don't have it -- I lost my notes. (Translation= My girlie tossed it.)
Country John
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]That's ol it is!
That's the best part of it, she quoted me a number,+ dinner/movies and not a penny more.
PD: CJ please do me a favor?
I lost my girl's cell#, any chance you might know AB phone# if you got it PM me.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Adelita Hotel number is 6646855631. You can ask them for the number to the bar, if there is one. Although if you called the bar and asked for a girl they would most likely hang up.
[QUOTE=Country John]Donnie D, you are a star for searching for your fellow Monger, but the above info is NOT for Adelitas Bar, it is for the San Diego South/San Ysidro Travelodge in California, not Tijuana.
I'll be in the Zona tomorrow night having some cervesas with my girlie at Bar Tropical. I'll swing by, get the info and post it tomorrow night.
Sorry I don't have it -- I lost my notes. (Translation= My girlie tossed it.)
Country John[/QUOTE]I must have been drinking when I looked that up. I just checked again and its for a damn hotel.
Donnie
[QUOTE=Heyzeus]Adelita Hotel number is 6646855631. You can ask them for the number to the bar, if there is one. Although if you called the bar and asked for a girl they would most likely hang up.[/QUOTE]LOL, this is so true. They get a thousand calls a day!
I'm trying to plan a trip to TJ from seattle. Anyone going soon? Can someone give me some info.
[QUOTE=Loco Smith]I'm trying to plan a trip to TJ from seattle. Anyone going soon? Can someone give me some info.[/QUOTE]
Yes!!
Read Brockton O'Tooles guide very carefully, then ask specific questions based on what you learned. We'd be delighted to help you out.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]Yes!!
Read Brockton O'Tooles guide very carefully, then ask specific questions based on what you learned. We'd be delighted to help you out.
Country John[/QUOTE]Hell I even printed it out and am studying it like I'm back in college.
I'm looking for any help as well. As far as traveling down that way, I have parking check. I have taking a taxi checked and Country I read yours and various other members post about cash and cops. But I still have a few questions:
As far as cash, I've read that you guys say not to have it on you but do you mean don't have a lot or just don't bring any and use an ATM?
What time is a good time to go, I'm thinking of taking a Friday trip that way being that I live in L.A. I was thinking of getting to TJ around 12pm and maybe staying till 10pm or 12am. Is that a reasonable time to go and see all the sites?
Another question is ID, should I have a passport now with all the new law stuff about travel that way? I have a passport but I need it updated.
Any help would be great and I'm following your advice on not looking like a tourist as well!
Thanks
You don't need a passport, yet. At the beginning of 2008, you'll probably need one.
You should carry as much cash as you think you'll need. The policia are pretty homophobic, and I know some who stash the bulk of their money in their underwear because they say that the policia never check your underwear. I've never done this; I don't think it's necessary.
Friday is not a bad day because there will be more chicas working. That said...there will also be many more mongers, and you won't get any special deals that you can usually get during the week. Personally, I like Thursdays and Sunday afternoons.
Havent been down in a while or on the board but I noticed some comments about more cops? Just curious if someone could clue me in? I was thinking about heading down this week but that depends on the situation.
Take care everyone!
Cali
[QUOTE=California Guy]Havent been down in a while or on the board but I noticed some comments about more cops? Just curious if someone could clue me in? I was thinking about heading down this week but that depends on the situation.
Take care everyone!
Cali[/QUOTE]
You might notice more cops around, but nothing has changed. Just use the same common sense as before and you should be OK.
Country John
Hello fellow mongers,
I just wanted to thank everyone especially CJ with his knowledge of this great land. I have only been two times, and chose the sg's since it is more in my budget and there were a lot of very hot ones to chose from in my opinion. I would go to AB, drink a beer then go walking. I chose 3 chicas the first time, 4 the second. The second time I got stopped by the policia as I was just walking around minding my business. They were asking for drugs or viagra, and I had nothing on me just some condoms. So they were fine after checking me they just let me go thankfully. I do have just a few questions for CJ or anyone else who really knows. First, is it ok to purchase beer at a store (in bottle or can) and carry it around with me (unopened) while I search for a chica? My intention would be to drink the beer in the hotel room with her. If police found me carrying an unopened beer is that ok or not? I was spending too much on the beers at AB so this would be my other way of doing it if it is ok. Also, I have some kids and ladies clothes I was thinking of bringing down and 'trading' with a chica or 2 for services. Is this ok? I could donate the clothes here in the USA but I had the idea that maybe they would appreciate the clothes and I could save some money. Also, where is Bar Tropical? Is it right in the same vicinity as AB? I would like to go there since CJ does speak highly of it. Thank you again. The Zona is the best.
[QUOTE=I Love Pussy]Hello fellow mongers,
I just wanted to thank everyone especially CJ with his knowledge of this great land. I have only been two times, and chose the sg's since it is more in my budget and there were a lot of very hot ones to chose from in my opinion. I would go to AB, drink a beer then go walking. I chose 3 chicas the first time, 4 the second. The second time I got stopped by the policia as I was just walking around minding my business. They were asking for drugs or viagra, and I had nothing on me just some condoms. So they were fine after checking me they just let me go thankfully. I do have just a few questions for CJ or anyone else who really knows. First, is it ok to purchase beer at a store (in bottle or can) and carry it around with me (unopened) while I search for a chica? My intention would be to drink the beer in the hotel room with her. If police found me carrying an unopened beer is that ok or not? I was spending too much on the beers at AB so this would be my other way of doing it if it is ok. Also, I have some kids and ladies clothes I was thinking of bringing down and 'trading' with a chica or 2 for services. Is this ok? I could donate the clothes here in the USA but I had the idea that maybe they would appreciate the clothes and I could save some money. Also, where is Bar Tropical? Is it right in the same vicinity as AB? I would like to go there since CJ does speak highly of it. Thank you again. The Zona is the best.[/QUOTE]
Tropical is across the street from AB.... I dont think it is a crime to carry a beer but I wouldnt do it just because you never know if the cops will give you problems. Last, the clothes idea wont work. They are trying to make money, and they have pimps, so you will be carrying clothing for no reason. If you wanted to give it as an additional gift that might get you a better session since most of those girls are like a piece of wood in bed.
I believe that it is OK to carry unopened beers.
I have done it numerous times. without even thinking of this as an issue and have done it mostly carrying them across the police station near guadalupe's spot (east end of the alley)
I do not know the exact legal situation. but I never had a problem.
[QUOTE=I Love Pussy]Hello fellow mongers,
I just wanted to thank everyone especially CJ with his knowledge of this great land. I have only been two times, and chose the sg's since it is more in my budget and there were a lot of very hot ones to chose from in my opinion. I would go to AB, drink a beer then go walking. I chose 3 chicas the first time, 4 the second. The second time I got stopped by the policia as I was just walking around minding my business. They were asking for drugs or viagra, and I had nothing on me just some condoms. So they were fine after checking me they just let me go thankfully. I do have just a few questions for CJ or anyone else who really knows. First, is it ok to purchase beer at a store (in bottle or can) and carry it around with me (unopened) while I search for a chica? My intention would be to drink the beer in the hotel room with her. If police found me carrying an unopened beer is that ok or not? I was spending too much on the beers at AB so this would be my other way of doing it if it is ok. Also, I have some kids and ladies clothes I was thinking of bringing down and 'trading' with a chica or 2 for services. Is this ok? I could donate the clothes here in the USA but I had the idea that maybe they would appreciate the clothes and I could save some money. Also, where is Bar Tropical? Is it right in the same vicinity as AB? I would like to go there since CJ does speak highly of it. Thank you again. The Zona is the best.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=I Love Pussy]Hello fellow mongers,
I just wanted to thank everyone especially CJ with his knowledge of this great land. I have only been two times, and chose the sg's since it is more in my budget and there were a lot of very hot ones to chose from in my opinion. I would go to AB, drink a beer then go walking. I chose 3 chicas the first time, 4 the second. The second time I got stopped by the policia as I was just walking around minding my business. They were asking for drugs or viagra, and I had nothing on me just some condoms. So they were fine after checking me they just let me go thankfully. I do have just a few questions for CJ or anyone else who really knows. First, is it ok to purchase beer at a store (in bottle or can) and carry it around with me (unopened) while I search for a chica? My intention would be to drink the beer in the hotel room with her. If police found me carrying an unopened beer is that ok or not? I was spending too much on the beers at AB so this would be my other way of doing it if it is ok. Also, I have some kids and ladies clothes I was thinking of bringing down and 'trading' with a chica or 2 for services. Is this ok? I could donate the clothes here in the USA but I had the idea that maybe they would appreciate the clothes and I could save some money. Also, where is Bar Tropical? Is it right in the same vicinity as AB? I would like to go there since CJ does speak highly of it. Thank you again. The Zona is the best.[/QUOTE]
Unopened containers are OK. Might be a little warm when you get to the hrooom though.
SG's will usually NOT drink during working hours (some don't drink or smoke at all). They have their padrotes watching them. Most ARE being watched, so be careful.
The girls do not want clothes. They can afford to buy nice stuff for their kids. Used clothing usually goes in the dumpster, I wouldn't waste my time.
drop the clothes at the local Salvation Army or somewhere useful. BNow if it's NEW clothes you're talking about then that is a whole different story, only don't buy the clothes, give them the money.
Bar tropical is across the street from Adelitas. Walk out the front door of AB, look to the left, there it is.
I had a fav at Adelitas once tell me a story about this guy (regular customer, Americano Gringo) who sessioned with her a few times and he was in lub with her. She has a few kids and the guy know it.
One day he walks into Adelitas with THREE large plastic trash bags BURSTING with old clothes. she said "Wat ju do wit dat heer?" The guy says "It's for you and your kids!! (big smiles etc.) She said "I don whant dat sheet, get it away from me!" "What I whant is ju muny!"
And oh yeah......Guadalupe......man, she is looking fine fine fine fine. Said Hi to her last Sunday. She could have been the next Tania (or maybe she is).
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Hey, usually post in the DR section.
Are there any girls from other countries working here (Asian or European)? Just wondering.
Reposted here to make sure I get more opinions
For those of you who have been to the clubs a few times - will the girls talk to you for a few minutes BEFORE you buy them a drink?
My thoughts -
If I go to a club, bar or anywhere else, I want some conversation first. This is my screening time. I don't read anythiung on this thread about fellas screening the girls. I can usually tell within a few minutes if the girl is interested, a shark, or a dud (I wrote usually). So, I prefer some conversation for a minute or two, then if there is a click, I'll buy a drink to feel her out some more. Most importantly, I want to find out what the girl will do in the room BBBJ, CIM, anal, and what she won't do. Then if its all good, hit the sheets.
Lets say you see a hottie and decide to buy her a drink right away and she turns out to be a dud (no spark), you just wasted a few bucks 'for nothing'.
Or even worse, if you grab a hottie and just take her to the room without screening her first, you may again waste some cash. So I recommend screening beforehand.
Interested in hear some constructive opinions about this issue.
Thanks Donnie
[QUOTE=Donnie D]Reposted here to make sure I get more opinions
For those of you who have been to the clubs a few times - will the girls talk to you for a few minutes BEFORE you buy them a drink?
My thoughts -
If I go to a club, bar or anywhere else, I want some conversation first. This is my screening time. I don't read anythiung on this thread about fellas screening the girls. I can usually tell within a few minutes if the girl is interested, a shark, or a dud (I wrote usually). So, I prefer some conversation for a minute or two, then if there is a click, I'll buy a drink to feel her out some more. Most importantly, I want to find out what the girl will do in the room BBBJ, CIM, anal, and what she won't do. Then if its all good, hit the sheets.
Lets say you see a hottie and decide to buy her a drink right away and she turns out to be a dud (no spark), you just wasted a few bucks 'for nothing'.
Or even worse, if you grab a hottie and just take her to the room without screening her first, you may again waste some cash. So I recommend screening beforehand.
Interested in hear some constructive opinions about this issue.
Thanks Donnie[/QUOTE]
A good question, but it tends to depend on the situation as well as the bar. For example, if the girl is standing and you walk up to her for a minute and chat with her, then you can usually get away for a few minutes without buying her a drink. If you are sitting and she comes to you, usually within 1 minute (at the busier bars like AB, HK and CC after 9pm) you will be asked by a waiter if you want to buy her a drink. At the smaller and less crowded bars, where there are fewer stupid gringos around, guys can and do routinely spend a few minutes chatting with the girls before buying them anything (the locals guys especially).
The waiters at the larger/busier bars are trained to be pushy, especially with Americans, but don't let that deter you. If you haven't made up your mind yet, just say no to the drink and continue chatting with the girl for as long as she will let you. At a smaller less crowded bar, she will likely want to chat with you (because there are fewer big spending gringos there) but at the larger bars, if you turn them down for a drink, they almost immediately ask you if you want to go to the hroom.
Generally, my approach at the larger bars has been to find somebody I like after scoping the place out for 30 minutes or so, then invite them to have a drink. I then use the drink to take care of the small talk and give them what Country John calls the "squeeze test". At this point, you can start to talk about what will and will not happen in the hroom. Just be careful to negotiate and confirm downstairs in the bar, and make sure to pay after the session, especially if you are asking for something a little out of the ordinary. At the smaller places, I talk with the girls for a few minutes and make the decision whether to buy them a drink or not based on the conversation.
The first time you go to ABs, just sit at the bar on the right after you walk in, order a beer, sit back and watch how the place works. It won't take you long to figure out the rhythm of the place. Girls are constantly coming over to guys, sitting down at tables and going upstairs.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Member #2600]Hell I even printed it out and am studying it like I'm back in college.
I'm looking for any help as well. As far as traveling down that way, I have parking check. I have taking a taxi checked and Country I read yours and various other members post about cash and cops. But I still have a few questions:
As far as cash, I've read that you guys say not to have it on you but do you mean don't have a lot or just don't bring any and use an ATM?
What time is a good time to go, I'm thinking of taking a Friday trip that way being that I live in L.A. I was thinking of getting to TJ around 12pm and maybe staying till 10pm or 12am. Is that a reasonable time to go and see all the sites?
Another question is ID, should I have a passport now with all the new law stuff about travel that way? I have a passport but I need it updated.
Any help would be great and I'm following your advice on not looking like a tourist as well!
Thanks[/QUOTE]
As far as transportation goes, your first time down it is best to park north of the border and walk across. Go through the turnstile and take the exit on the right. Walk through the other turnstile, cross the street and turn left in front of the row of Farmacias (welcome to pharmacy alley). Keep following the sidewalk and signs for the taxi libres (white cars with orange markings - $3 to the zone) or you can take an expensive yellow taxi ($5 to the zone), which are closer but more expensive. If you are unsure where the taxi libres are, just follow the crowd of local people, who will walk right past the yellow cabs.
Just bring the cash you need, and there's really no need for credit cards or ATM cards. Keep $10 in your car for parking (in case you lose your money) and it is always good to take $20 from your wallet and put it in your shoe or something in case the policia or bad guys take your money. If you have a hotel, you can use their safe for your valuables.
12pm - 10pm or 12am is reasonable for a visit. Just be careful going back to the border that time of night. Lots of cops used to hang out where the taxis drop you off for the border. Supposed to be better now, but I wouldn't risk it - have the taxi drop you off a few hundred feet away. Do not walk back to the border at night. In fact, on your first trip, do not walk anywhere.
You don't need a passport yet, but you will starting on Jan 1 2008. You need photo ID and proof of citizenship doesn't hurt either. As for not looking like a tourist, here are a few ideas: don't carry a huge backpack unless you are going to a hotel room to stay over, no cameras around your neck, no shorts or sweat pants, no maps of TJ or Spanish 101 books. Consider taking off that baseball cap and for heaven's sake NO FANNY PACKS - ever. Try to pretend you know where you are going, even if you don't. Don't loiter outside bars too much or you become a target for the policia and other bad people. Leave a bar and walk with purpose to the next one. Stopping and talking to the SGs is OK. Try to learn a few phrases of Spansih before you go, and be polite, even gracious to people. You are a foreigner and a visitor. Mexican people are used to being treated like crap by Americans, so a little humility and good manners goes a long way.
Blue Nose
Is it possible to take a girl to a health clinic and pay for her STD screening to ensure that she doesn't have herpes? Has anyone done this before?
How much would it cost to pay for a girl for an entire night?
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]A good question, but it tends to depend on the situation as well as the bar...............................
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
I appreciate the info. If the trip pans out next month, I will send you a PM with the dates.
So I havent been down in a couple months, that is my normal time frame because TJ never really improves. Anyway, I go straight to HK to grab some beers, chill, and watch the show. The place is fairly packed and I figured this would be ther case because it was Thursday night. Unfortunately I didn't see many hot or new chicas but there were a few cute ones so I hung out. The girl/girl show was just starting and the girls were so bad I couldn't watch! I mean you would think they would at least put one decent looking girl up but I am very serious when I say I wouldnt have sex with either of these girls for free.
Later I notice a couple more girls coming around and there were 3-4 8's that were probably with guys. One was new and had an amazing body and pretty face but was alwasy dancing sexually with a girl so I think she was a lesbian. One of my friends who works at HK asked if she went with guys and she said no so that also made me think this. Also a cute blonde with a nice body, looked American but she was from Mexico and definitely worthy.
I was going to grab a girl and take her up but I just hung out and threw down some dollars and bought a couple drinks for girls. I spent too much though on the ones and drinks so I felt like I was Pacman Jones afterwards...an idiot! So now around 1am I see a girl I met last Summer and she is super cool and a solid 8. She was hanging out with some guy but wanted me to wait to talk and hang out, which was okay since she could make some cash off the guy.
So the guy finally bails and we go to the top to be alone. Right away she tells me this terrible news and I am not sure if this was discussed before on this site because I go on and off with reading messages. Anyway she informed me this one guy who used to go down was murdered by one of the girls in December. I obviously wont say his name out of respect and because I would never do that but I am sure some of you knew him. He was a super nice American guy and was always polite and friendly to all of the patronts, waiters, girls, and anyone he came in contact with. I only hung out with him about 3 times but once he gave me this cool tour of the smaller bars, he spoke good Spanish, and it was very informative and fun. Needless to say I felt terrible and was sad to hear but made me realize that I everyone here needs to be very careful, including myself.
Finally after an on and off night I was going to leave, didnt hook up, but I knew the border line was going to suck bad so I figured I would wait. Then my friend told me if I wanted I could hang out with her and go to her appartment, of course I said yes. Finally she can leave and we go to her place which is a decent little place she shares with a couple girls. I did a stupid thing earlier by not eating and then having too much beer, well not where I was drunk but just too much because I didnt eat, so I didnt feel good. She felt bad and had me lay down and started massaging my head which helped a lot. Next thing I know she grabs my hands and puts them on her cute little ass and we start making out like crazy. I had never hooked up with her before, she was just a good looking girl I would talk with and buy a drink for here and there so I considered her a friend. Well she was very erotic and was super fun but unfortunately I didnt bring down a condom so I was pissed and she didnt have any. Still I managed to use my fingers and give her a nice orgasm and she eventually ended me off by giving me a bbjcim which was probably the best Ive ever had! After we crashed and I woke up, got a taxi, and went back home.
Overall one of the oddest nights Ive had in TJ!
[QUOTE=Montt]Is it possible to take a girl to a health clinic and pay for her STD screening to ensure that she doesn't have herpes? Has anyone done this before?
How much would it cost to pay for a girl for an entire night?[/QUOTE]
Don't know about the clinica check up, but I guess you could try it. Pretty much anything is possible in TJ, as long as you have the dinero. Remember that girls in TJ undergo mandatory health screening and are required to carry their health cards with them. You can always ask to see it...
As for an all nighter, the price will really depend on where you go to get one. At an AB or a CC, most girls will quote you a ridiculously high price - several hundred dollars. In my experience, the real gold is mined at the smaller clubs where there are fewer Americans throwing money around. True, that the selection may not be as good, so you have to do your homework. This is where it gets kind of fun - you can do a bar tour, just stop by for a drink, and check out the girls. You will almost always find at least a few girls who are worth your money, and then at this point you can buy them a drink and see if they would be open to an all night session. I have never paid more than $120 for an all nighter, and most of the girls from the smaller bars will gladly settle for $100. If she gives great service, you can also tip her. Good luck.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE]As far as cash, I've read that you guys say not to have it on you but do you mean don't have a lot or just don't bring any and use an ATM?
I was thinking of getting to TJ around 12pm and maybe staying till 10pm or 12am.
Another question is ID/passport.Thanks[/QUOTE]I recommend carrying just cash. No credit cards. No ATM card. If you follow O'Toole's safety tips, you won't have to worry about getting robbed. But why carry valuables you aren't going to use? You never know. Just take as much as you'll think you'll need, plus a little extra.
Friday from noon forward is a fine time to go. The Adelita Bar will probably be your main attraction at that time. Chicago Club will be dead until 9:00 p.m. Don't know about the afternoon action at the Hong Kong Club. I always go at night.
No need for a passport for *LAND* crossing until 2008. But you do need an ID to present upon re-entering the USA. I carry my drivers license.
[QUOTE=California Guy]Anyway she informed me this one guy who used to go down was murdered by one of the girls in December. I obviously wont say his name out of respect and because I would never do that but I am sure some of you knew him. He was a super nice American guy and was always polite and friendly to all of the patronts, waiters, girls, and anyone he came in contact with. I only hung out with him about 3 times but once he gave me this cool tour of the smaller bars, he spoke good Spanish, and it was very informative and fun. Needless to say I felt terrible and was sad to hear but made me realize that I everyone here needs to be very careful, including myself.
[/QUOTE]
It was in the news. The guy had his throat cut by a a guy who was the boyfriend of the girl he was keeping in his TJ Apartment. He shows up as they are moving her furniture out. Things get ugly, he gets his throat cut and the rest as they say is history.
The girl and two guys are currently in jail, they were caught in Tecate by TJPD and Tecate PD Nice police work.
Proof positive that you REALLY must be careful. The truth is that it takes TIME and common sense to develope a relationship.
Bluenose, you are quire right on your assessment of small bar girls!
We're off to Acapulco the end of the month for a week!
Country John
Does anyone know any massage spots that do more than massage?
Also the prices?
[QUOTE=B Venom]Does anyone know any massage spots that do more than massage?
Also the prices?[/QUOTE]
Son, this is your first post? Did you read the board? Did you look anything up? Guys spend HOURS posting info here for the benefit of guys like you. It would be nice if you took advantage of that first, post a few trip reports, tell us all about how you did your thing int he zona, give us accurate info and then after a while ask a question or two.
Know what I mean? this is not my board, that's true but I gotta say, please do some research.
go there, do that, post a few trip reports and then let's talk.
Be Safe and Be Nice.
Country John
[QUOTE=B Venom]Does anyone know any massage spots that do more than massage?
Also the prices?[/QUOTE]There are way too many that I would want to list.
You could get lucky and find a good provider at a massage parlor but in general most massage providers are not good sex providers. It's best to keep massage and sex services seperate. And have you ever tried having sex on one of those massage tables? It's impossible. If there are going to offer full service then they should have beds.
There are other Tijuana prostituion boards on the internet that have seperate categories for bars, massage parlors, hotels, etc with reports from members. If your interested in full service from a massage parlor then I suggest you search one of these other boards.
This site has a lot of good information but it's more difficult to find because of the way it's organized. Most everything is in Tijuana reports which is just one long thread and not searchable.
CJ,
When did Aztec massage start doing extras? Are we talking about the one on Revolution, near VivaMex?
I go to VivaMex and Aztec fairly regularly and was under the impression those two were theonly legit massage places in TJ. If Aztec is now doing extras could you recommend someone?
Thanks-W.59
[QUOTE=Country John]Son, this is your first post? Did you read the board? Did you look anything up? Guys spend HOURS posting info here for the benefit of guys like you. It would be nice if you took advantage of that first, post a few trip reports, tell us all about how you did your thing int he zona, give us accurate info and then after a while ask a question or two.
Know what I mean? this is not my board, that's true but I gotta say, please do some research.
Now: for a good time, goto Aztec masaage, or Cheaters. You can even go to Mermaids in the Zona.
go there, do that, post a few trip reports and then let's talk.
Be Safe and Be Nice.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Maybe he didn't do the research.
[QUOTE=Woohoo59]CJ,
When did Aztec massage start doing extras? Are we talking about the one on Revolution, near VivaMex?
I go to VivaMex and Aztec fairly regularly and was under the impression those two were theonly legit massage places in TJ. If Aztec is now doing extras could you recommend someone?
Thanks-W.59[/QUOTE]
I believe that CJ misspoke. Now that Claudia has moved to VivaMex are there any attractive chicas ie not gordas left at Aztec?
I am going to be in TJ for two nights. Any suggestions or recommendations on where to stay? I would like to stay close the action. I am going to try and find some all nighters as well.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]I believe that CJ misspoke. Now that Claudia has moved to VivaMex are there any attractive chicas ie not gordas left at Aztec?[/QUOTE]
I mis-spoke. Never having gone to one, I heard stories about extras there but never paid much attention. If came to the front when I was doing the post.
I stand corrected.
Country John
[QUOTE=Heyzeus]... have you ever tried having sex on one of those massage tables? [/QUOTE]Yea, many, many times in Ciudad Juarez. The massage parlors are the primary reason that I visit there, although the bars are fun, too.
I will have to check out the massage parlors in TJ next time.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]I believe that CJ misspoke. Now that Claudia has moved to VivaMex are there any attractive chicas ie not gordas left at Aztec?[/QUOTE]I dont believe there are any attractive girls at Aztec. If you want an excellent massage though I'd recommend Blanca. Typical big girls who does a wonderful job of getting ll the knots out. Just be sure to ask her to do a firm massage.
How attractive is Claudia and how good is her massage?
Sorry to get off track.
Friday night (4-20) was slow, certainly due to the rain.
Hong Kong actually had two attractive girls doing the whipped cream/lesbian show rather than the ugly broads they usually have. I believe they're both new(er). I dont know either girls names.
[QUOTE=Bone Order]I am going to be in TJ for two nights. Any suggestions or recommendations on where to stay? I would like to stay close the action. I am going to try and find some all nighters as well.[/QUOTE]
I think the nicest hotel that is closest to the zone is the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago. It is new, clean, chica friendly and about as close to the action as you want to be. From the arch, walk down the hill, and it is on the far side of the first intersection. From AB, walk out take a right, past the stop sign and continue for one block Hotel HDS is on the left, right across from Bar La Tropa. Rates are about $45 - $50 a night.
As a backup (and Hotel HDS does fill up quickly on weekends) I recommend the Hotel Nelson. This is located at the corner of Revolucion and Primera, right next to the arch. Rooms run about $60. Nelson is not as nice or as new as the HDS, but it is clean and safe. One note about the Nelson is that if you want to bring in a girl for a TLN session, make sure you pay for a double room (a few dollars more). They will question you on your way upstairs with a chica at night, but when they see that you have paid for a double they smile and wave you through. The restaurant at the Nelson is also pretty good, although prices are a little higher because you are right on Revolucion.
Both hotels are noisy at night, because of all the noise from outside (mariachis, drunk people, music from bars and clubs, police car sirens etc.) so just be prepared for that. There are quieter places in TJ, but they are further away from la zona and you will need a taxi at night.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]I believe that CJ misspoke. Now that Claudia has moved to VivaMex are there any attractive chicas ie not gordas left at Aztec?[/QUOTE]
Reinaldo, would you mind poting the (approximate) location of VivaMex massage. I have been a frequent patron at Azteca and I think their massages are great, but sometimes when I go there, there is up to a one hour wait because so many mongers are relaxing between sessions there.
I would like to try VivaMex as a backup. Is it clean and safe? What are their rates like? No full service I assume. Thanks.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]... location of VivaMex massage. [/QUOTE]
I've never gone but, it's on Revolution. You've probably "seen" it a hundred times without noticing it. It's on the East side of Revolution, a block or two South from the Arch.
Here's a photo:
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]I think the nicest hotel that is closest to the zone is the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago.
As a backup (and Hotel HDS does fill up quickly on weekends) I recommend the Hotel Nelson.
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. Would you have contact information for these hotels? I did a Google search with no luck.
I did find a website for Hotel Nelson
[url]http://www.hotelnelson.com.mx/[/url]
Is there a website for Hotel Hacienda?.
Do you have any information on Hotel La Villa De Zaragoza? [url]http://members.aol.com/hotellavilla/[/url]
Bq ribs
I have been going to hotel zaragoza for many years I normally drive there get a room and leave my car there. Taxi to adelitas and take it from there. They have security roaming the parking lot and have never had a bad experience in the hotel except for the bad night ladies I bring there and try to steal from me.
Only one problem before I go up to my room with them, I make an excuse to go to my car and put my money under the trunk matt.
Rooms are nice a little out of the way, but when I go to TJ I monger all over the place so this is central for me, Revolucion is 1 block up and i still go there.
Happy Hunting
[QUOTE=Firedsup]Bq ribs
I have been going to hotel zaragoza for many years I normally drive there get a room and leave my car there. Taxi to adelitas and take it from there. They have security roaming the parking lot and have never had a bad experience in the hotel except for the bad night ladies I bring there and try to steal from me.
Only one problem before I go up to my room with them, I make an excuse to go to my car and put my money under the trunk matt.
Rooms are nice a little out of the way, but when I go to TJ I monger all over the place so this is central for me, Revolucion is 1 block up and i still go there.
Happy Hunting[/QUOTE]
Firedsup - thanks for the tip about hotel Zaragoza. Can you give an approximate location or directions from la zona. How are the rates there? I have never been, but I have heard relatively good things about this place. I think I will put it on my standby list.
Bq ribs - Unfortunately, I do not have contact information for Hotel Hacienda de Santiago. I have always just shown up there and requested a room. I tried the [url]www.seetijuana.com[/url] website, but it is not listed there. If you get there early on Thursday or Friday (before 4pm) you should not have a problem getting a room, but later on it can be tough. Saturday, you may have to try even earlier - it's a very popular place with mongers. I've never had any problem getting a room at the Nelson, though. On the seetijuana website, there are many other 4 & 5 star hotels listed, so you can take a look at those if you like. Some of them are a little further away, but quite nice. Not sure about the chica friendliness, but if you pay for a double and register the girl when you arrive (required at Pueblo Amigo Inn, I believe) it should not be a problem. After all...it's Tijuana.
Blue Nose
Link to Hotel La Villa de Zaragoza which is East of the Jai Alai on the same side of the street as Ricardos restaurant. Don't ever use your credit card here.
[url]http://www.hotellavilla.biz/[/url]
[QUOTE=Heyzeus]Link to Hotel La Villa de Zaragoza which is East of the Jai Alai on the same side of the street as Ricardos restaurant. Don't ever use your credit card here.
[url]http://www.hotellavilla.biz/[/url][/QUOTE]
Use cash. Do not use a credit card or debit card.
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]Reinaldo, would you mind poting the (approximate) location of VivaMex massage. I have been a frequent patron at Azteca and I think their massages are great, but sometimes when I go there, there is up to a one hour wait because so many mongers are relaxing between sessions there.
I would like to try VivaMex as a backup. Is it clean and safe? What are their rates like? No full service I assume. Thanks.
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
VivaMex is on the east side of Revolucion between 3rd and 4th. It's gringo owned and clean and safe. Rates are comparable to Aztec. No sexual services.
They have a website.
[QUOTE=Woohoo59].
How attractive is Claudia and how good is her massage?
[/QUOTE]
Attractive slim twenty something guera who gives a very good massage.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]VivaMex is on the east side of Revolucion between 3rd and 4th. It's gringo owned and clean and safe. Rates are comparable to Aztec. No sexual services.
They have a website.[/QUOTE]
The owner of VivaMex is a friend of mine (we're not drinking buddies), and VivaMex is a totally legit and professional parlour. They are busiest on Saturday and it's best to make an appointment but you can walk in Sunday afternoons and evenings.
The girls receive professional training and are quite good. There is NO SEX or "happy endings" at VivaMex, it's completely above board.
Country John
Hello All, I travel a lot in my job and will be in SD for two weeks in June. I was there last in 2006 and made many trips across the border. I usually went in the day or stayed overnight in a hotel near the Zone.
I am hoping to meet up with other like-minded guys in the SD TJ area and make the mongering trips together. Or just meet up in the zone and kill some time together in between sessions.
If anyone is interested drop me a PM or give me a discreet way to contact you.
MHF
having just joined isg i feel compelled to add my two cents. first off, thanks for the great information. if not for these types of forums i would have made many mistakes and paid for it. that doesn’t mean i haven’t made any. some were avoidable and some not.
from the few times i’ve been there, here are a couple do’s and don’ts.
do:
be nice to the girls. remember they are people too. they may not like what they are doing but being a gentleman only works to your advantage. more than one girl has expressed that courtesy goes a long way. but remember there are many out there who’ll take advantage of you so be careful, especially the aggressive ones, more on that later.
use patience, walk the bar and get a feel for the girls and the vibe. i usually walk around and head to the bathroom. then take another stroll around, have a beer and see what happens.
be honest with yourself. even though she might have a 10 body and face, if she is a dead fish in conversation or interaction with you, then she might be that way in bed. more than once i’ve had a girl sit with me only to have to tell her there was no chemistry; she’s very pretty and nice but no sex tonight. they get their credit for the drink and go away. the look on some of the other girl’s faces when you dismiss an obvious breadwinner is priceless.
tip the bartenders, washroom guys and room cleaners. com’on, most of the beers are $3.50-$4.00, a buck on top of that is nothing compared to what we pay here for just a beer from a guy with a dirty beard and bad attitude. the washroom guys have to watch a bunch of guys [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] before they fuck. the room cleaners speaks for itself, a buck to deal with your cum filled condom and sweat coated sheet, a buck is nothing.
when returning to the u.s., if you parked on the san ysidro side, ask the cab driver to drop you off on the sentry side. you don’t have to walk across the bridge and you are right there at the trolley and parking lots.
don’t
get drunk and make a scene. you are a visitor in their country. think what you may about mexico, but it is still their country. you are not in kansas anymore. don’t think you can act any different there than you can here. they resent the attitude that you go down there to act out there what you can’t do at home; this is their home.
being a drunken asshole and hassled by the cops there is far worse than it is here.
do not walk from the border to zona norte; take a cab. it’s only 5 bucks and safe. don’t loose your money or possibly your life over a couple bucks.
after telling you to be generous and tip, now i’ll say don’t over pay for sex. i only go down mid-week because i work weekends, so i’m sure supply and demand works there as much as anywhere in the world. but $40-$60 for fucky-sucky is the going rate; even the 9’s and 10’s. i’m not cheap but i don’t want to over pay. i’ve paid $40 and had a gfe, but also paid $100 and been disappointed.
don’t go for the aggressive ones. when a girl comes on strong it should send up a big red flag. i’ve fallen for this and been put through the motions and rushed out faster than diarrhea through a goose. no matter how good looking she is, if the first words out of her mouth are “ do you want to fuck me?’ or “i want to suck your cock” get away from her as soon as possible. she’ll never deliver a good experience.
as you can tell i’ve had several great times and a couple of bad times hunting pussy in tj. it comes with the territory. not all that goes bad happens in tj. on one trip my car was stolen out of the lot behind jack in the box on san ysidro blvd. insurance paid for it but the hassle was enormous.
there are much more experienced mongers on this sight than me. cj is the one that comes to mind first. if i have misled anyone, please let me, us know. if you have anything to add, i’m all ears.
thanks again.
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[QUOTE=Surfnk9]
Do not walk from the border to Zona Norte; take a cab. It’s only 5 bucks and safe. Don’t loose your money or possibly your life over a couple bucks.
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I assume you mean at night right because I've never had a problem or heard of problems walking to and from the zona during daylight hours.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo][QUOTE=Surfnk9]
Do not walk from the border to Zona Norte; take a cab. It’s only 5 bucks and safe. Don’t loose your money or possibly your life over a couple bucks.
QUOTE]
I assume you mean at night right because I've never had a problem or heard of problems walking to and from the zona during daylight hours.[/QUOTE]
There have been a few posts lately advising people not to walk to the zone at all. Let me add my two cents on this, and you guys can respond in turn. In general, I think a person who is brand new to TJ, or never been to Mexico or Latin America, should most definitely take taxis anywhere in TJ the first few times he goes, regardless of the time of day. I did, and looking back I am glad that I did. I didn't really understand the rhythm of the city or how a developing country works. Everything from the traffic laws to the hordes of street vendors is different than here.
However, once you have been to TJ a few times, and feel comfortable with the zone, as well as how things work in general, I think it is perfectly acceptable to walk to and from the zone during daylight hours. Of course, you should still use precaution and keep your guard up, but for the most part you should be fine. After dark is a different story - I would not recommend walking to or from the zone at night and in fact I do not recommend walking anywhere outside the zone at night, including even a block or so away from it. I have done that at night and been hassled by the police.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Blue Nose][QUOTE=Reinaldo]
There have been a few posts lately advising people not to walk to the zone at all. Let me add my two cents on this, and you guys can respond in turn. In general, I think a person who is brand new to TJ, or never been to Mexico or Latin America, should most definitely take taxis anywhere in TJ the first few times he goes, regardless of the time of day. I did, and looking back I am glad that I did. I didn't really understand the rhythm of the city or how a developing country works. Everything from the traffic laws to the hordes of street vendors is different than here.
However, once you have been to TJ a few times, and feel comfortable with the zone, as well as how things work in general, I think it is perfectly acceptable to walk to and from the zone during daylight hours. Of course, you should still use precaution and keep your guard up, but for the most part you should be fine. After dark is a different story - I would not recommend walking to or from the zone at night and in fact I do not recommend walking anywhere outside the zone at night, including even a block or so away from it. I have done that at night and been hassled by the police.
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
I agree BN,
The zona is dangerous to walk alone anytime day or night, I was there last Thursday and the surrounds near the Alley are looking scary lately, there are too many Deported Gang members from the U.S. running loose in the zona, always bugging the tourist offering drugs and minors, watch out for these criminals.
I saw this gang guy coming out from a very small alley the space between two buildings, and when he saw me at the distance that I was heading his way he jumped back and hided behind the wall?
I don't know what he had in mind, but I didn't care to find out and I just turned around, and went back the other direction that I came from, and I'm not a small guy @ 6' tall 260 lbs and a lot of muscle weight from building houses for the past twenty years, I don't think that I'm an easy prey, but still like you said keep you guard up, better to avoid walking too long the zona, some might say that nothing happens to them when walking the zona, but it only takes that desperate hungry guy with 5 kids at home to ruin your day.
For the most part I would agree that the day is different than the night when it comes to walking around in T.J. However, the criminal element ebbs and flows down there and the consequences are not great until you are the exceptional case.
Even walking on Revolution Blvd in the afternoon I have stopped abruptly, turned around and observed the "casual stroller" changes their direction and flow.
Day or night, keep your guard up.
I was upstairs at Adelitas when the guy knocked after only 22 minutes instead of 30. The girl started to get up, but I said "Hey hold on".
I went out in the hall naked with the condom still on. The guy was halfway down the hall mopping, and I told him, "Hey amigo I still have 8 more minutes!"
He just looked at me and said "Oh OK, 8 more minutes." So I went back in the room, looking at my watch a few times and telling the girl how many minutes we had left. He didn't bother to come back again when the 30 minutes was over.
I have used my credit/debit card here and never had a problem. Been here at least 20 times in the past 2 years.
I've read reports that the girls are required to have a check up for STD's on a periodic basis; and that they are certified with a card of some type. Does anyone ever ask the girl to show her card or is that managed by the bar? What about the street girls?
[QUOTE=Conejito]I was upstairs at Adelitas when the guy knocked after only 22 minutes instead of 30. The girl started to get up, but I said "Hey hold on".
I went out in the hall naked with the condom still on. The guy was halfway down the hall mopping, and I told him, "Hey amigo I still have 8 more minutes!"
He just looked at me and said "Oh OK, 8 more minutes." So I went back in the room, looking at my watch a few times and telling the girl how many minutes we had left. He didn't bother to come back again when the 30 minutes was over.[/QUOTE]
That's why we called AB Mechanical F.cks , it's all about timing, when game is over you need to put more quarters to continue playing, just don't tip those A holes, and tell him you're upset because of the knocking and he's not getting a tip, these idiots need to learn to respect our privacy.
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]I've read reports that the girls are required to have a check up for STD's on a periodic basis; and that they are certified with a card of some type. Does anyone ever ask the girl to show her card or is that managed by the bar? What about the street girls?[/QUOTE]
Both bar girls and SGs are required to have them but not all do. Some will show them to you, others will give a feeble excuse it is in her locker or some such thing. Only the street girls in fixed locations have them. The 'walkers' that move around on a certain corner do not and should be avoided if health is a concern.
If you play safe it really doesn't matter if they are not 100% healthy as you are 'covered'. On the other hand, you can get herpes or veneral warts even if you are covered and the health check may not have caught these.
Mr Happy Feet
I don't know how to drop you a discrete PM (I don't know what PM stands for, along with a lot of the other acronyms on this site). But I do plan to monger in the zone during June. I’ve been heading down there solo and while I get what I want a little camaraderie would be nice. On one of my first trips I meet a fellow monger while was walking across the bridge from the US to Mexico. At first I was skeptical of a stranger approaching me as I walked across the tan bridge, but it was quickly evident he was on the up and up. We shared a cab, and alternated the beer purchases along the monger route. My last trip I came across a gentleman in the alley who was dumbfounded with the entire scene of the young girls on the street. However someone to chill with between sessions would be nice too. Please don’t think I’m considering this a date, strictly hetro here.
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Hi,
To send someone a private message (PM), you left click on the "users screen" which appears in the upper right-hand corner in the post, then a menu drops down and "send a private message" option is chosen. Being fairly new to this hobby myself, the website:
[url]www.urbandictionary.com[/url]
has been a good reference for looking up the meanings of acronyms and slang. Thanks,
Jay
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]Mr Happy Feet
I don't know how to drop you a discrete PM (I don't know what PM stands for, along with a lot of the other acronyms on this site)
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I meant upper left-hand corner of the post; clicking on the user's screen name. Sorry about that.
[QUOTE=Jay Love]Hi,
To send someone a private message (PM), you left click on the "users screen" which appears in the upper right-hand corner in the post, then a menu drops down and "send a private message" option is chosen. Being fairly new to this hobby myself, the website:
[url]www.urbandictionary.com[/url]
has been a good reference for looking up the meanings of acronyms and slang. Thanks,
Jay[/QUOTE]
Here's a couple of tips a doctor freind gave ma a long time ago and hasn't failed yet.
Get some Pepto Bismol tablets and take one just before you have a meal. He called it a profolactive method. If only he knew how familiar I am with that method in TJ. Go ahead and eat anything you want, off the street or in the restaurants, within reason. Remember as long as the meat has been kept hot you should have no problem. The water they rinse the veggies with is a problem. Pepto deals with that.
I have used this method evey time I go to TJ and and beyond and never had a problem. I love to bang the shit out of a chicka, go out have a couple tacos on the street, take a walk, and go back and bang another one.
Also use plenty of soap cleaning in the showers.
Always, don't drink the water; bottled only. Ice is suspect too.
Surfnk9,
I sent you a PM that includes an e-mail address I use just for the hobby. Glad you responded. I travel and mongor all over the world and always feel safer with another hobbiest whether it is Thailand, Bahrain, and especially TJ.
The regular guys like CJ put out great safety information for TJ, but nothing is better than the buddy system. I always try to make conversation on the way over to the Zone with fellow mongers, but like me they are usually guarded. It is too bad we can't all carry a certified-sane monger ID card. :-)
I hope to hear from you or others headed to TJ in June. (8th-26th)
TTYL
MHF
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]Mr Happy Feet
However someone to chill with between sessions would be nice too. Please don’t think I’m considering this a date, strictly hetro here.
Is there really pimps in TJ? I've been doing research and I remember reading about padrotes? Or something close to that name? About them being in the alleys. Are they just like they ones we see in the you. S?
[QUOTE=Loco Smith]Is there really pimps in TJ? I've been doing research and I remember reading about padrotes? Or something close to that name? About them being in the alleys. Are they just like they ones we see in the you. S?[/QUOTE]
Yes, yes and yes.
[QUOTE=Country John]Yes, yes and yes.[/QUOTE]Do all the girls in tj have pimps? Just the SW's or bar girls too? Are these pimps like the ones in the you. S that will try to rob you while your on your date? Are the pimps the guys in front of the hotel just standing there? I v seen pics of the hotels that people post and I see lots of hoes and guys out there just standing outside of the hotels. Are they the pimp to be worried about?
I've never mongered without a buddy. The way I see it is, its an adventure to share with a friend or friends. We've had our little group we go with since the beginning. Not really a big group but at most 2-4 people in a groupe per trip. Sharing stories and driving to TJ is half the fun. We've even theme nights we've made up.
Some days will be petite night, or if we're really not sure what we're wanting, we'd make it a plump ass night or blondie night or whatever. Another one is non-hottie central night. Its when you cant get a chick that is sitting in the main floor. You have to get one thats more on the side or in the back part of the bar. Its just to change up the selection. Sometimes you find some chica that you may not have picked in the first place but actually turns out really good.
Its also a good idea to be in a small group for safety. We really dont wanted any more to the other areas of Zona, since there is no point for us. We've seen the other parts and its not our thing. If you're new and not really familiar with the area, go with buddy and stick together. Try to lay low and dont attract attention if you dont need to. No need to bring fancy watches, jewelry or flash money around in this area. The girls arent going to be impressed by it. In a way, it'll even make you even more of a target by the husters.
Lay low, keep it simple and have fun.
[QUOTE=Loco Smith]Do all the girls in tj have pimps?[/QUOTE]
No.
[QUOTE=Loco Smith]Just the SW's or bar girls too? [/quote]
Some or most but not all. Bar girls tend not to have pimps per se but never rule it out. Always assume they do.
[QUOTE=Loco Smith]
Are these pimps like the ones in the you. S that will try to rob you while your on your date? Are the pimps the guys in front of the hotel just standing there? [/quote]
See above. When you pay a girl that you don't know for intimate sex, assume that she might try to take advantage of you in some way and assume that she is being watched. That way you can work to keep the "odds" in your favor.
[QUOTE=Loco Smith]
I v seen pics of the hotels that people post and I see lots of hoes and guys out there just standing outside of the hotels. Are they the pimp to be worried about?[/QUOTE]
Worry about pimps when you don't pay, or hurt the girl. Other than that, negotiate your deal, get to the room, doo your deed and move on (while being happy and nice of course).
Having a buddy is a good idea and travelling in groups is cool as long as you behave. The cops notice groups easily.
Country John
I have heard that a lot of the SG's have pimps, but don't see them watching the girls. I have also noticed that some of the hotels provide lockers for the girls so there is some sort of business arrangement. Some of SG's will only go to a certain hotel. So there I think there is some connection.
18 february 2007 (sorry for the delay). downtown san diego is full of information offices so i had no trouble getting full directions to where to catch the blue line trolley to the mexican border. i got a round trip ticket for $5. during peak there is a trolley every 15 minutes and it seems to take about 45 minutes to get to the last stop at the border town of san ysidro, california.
i wasn't quite sure where to go so i asked a transit policeman who was standing right by the trolley. he pointed and said to just follow all the people. as soon as i rounded the building by the trolley i saw the entrance to the bridge. it was very solid, more like a tunnel than a bridge, except it was elevated. it was a fair walk. at the end were 2 sets of full height turnstiles. i didn't notice anyone getting any attention from the police.
an information office just before the second turnstile had closed at 3 pm. a cluster of men not far outside on the left turned out to be taxi libre drivers. i had a $2 coupon off taxi fare to the campamento massage parlor. the driver said it was closed because they employed ****d girls although the website is still up. i thought of asking to go to mermaids or adelitas instead but he said he knew another very good massage parlor.
he took me to luxor and even walked right inside with me. they obviously knew him. i opted for the $55 massage with the masseuse naked rather than the $40 with her in a bikini. this was paid to the house. anything else was to be negotiated with the girl in the room.
6 girls were in the line-up. it was a difficult choice. i liked the honey blonde babe who had been doing the talking. but i went with this big boobed raven haired ivory skinned amazon who must have been 5' 8" or 5' 9". her name was karen.
she didn't look particularly hispanic, but she must have been because her english was very skimpy. when we got to the room with the professional massage table i was given my choice of beer or wine but opted for bottled water. i undressed quickly. she stripped off her tightwhite pants, bra, red sweater, and beige panties. she seemed to get a kick out of watching me watch her do this. she looked very good stripped down - a tad soft, but great natural tits, round ass, and a proportionate waist.
she asked me something. i finally figured out it was what extras i wanted. for everything she wanted $100. ok. up front. ok. i started to lie on my stomach so she could massage my back. no. lie other way up. ok. she immediately starts putting a condom on me. she slides her mouth up and down my shaft like shes pumping for oil. we do a fair amount of this and then she climbs on cowgirl style. up and down. back and forth. my hands roam. her body feels good all over. she stops. "all finished?"i was pretty sure i hadn't come so i say, "i usually have to finish by hand [because of a retarded ejaculation condition]." she starts out with condom on. i get her to take it off. i finish myself off exploding while thinking how great tit fucking her would be. she has me clean myself off with paper towels and a cloth towel. while i am getting dressed i swear she is emptying half a can of air freshener in the room.
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[QUOTE=Hizark21]I have heard that a lot of the SG's have pimps, but don't see them watching the girls. I have also noticed that some of the hotels provide lockers for the girls so there is some sort of business arrangement. Some of SG's will only go to a certain hotel. So there I think there is some connection.[/QUOTE]
That's because not all pimps are guys. Many girls have a madrote(sic) watching them. They count how many times a girl goes up, how long she's in etc. Some girls will not touch you or let you touch them because they do not want thier handler to think they have an outside deal going, so they'll seem cold.
SG's go to the hotel that they post in front of because the hotel guy lets them post there. If they wen't to the hotel next door with the business, the place they post in front of would get pissed and make them move.
Storage for a change of clothes is not uncommon. The girls don't leave the Zona in their work clothes. I wonder how many of them you would recognize in their "off duty" wear?
Double Nickle, you didn't go in far enough, to La Zona. Do some research here. You could have doubled your fun time for $140. No door charge at the clubs in La Zona. Next time.
[quote=double nickle]18 february 2007 (sorry for the delay). downtown san diego is full of information offices so i had no trouble getting full directions to where to catch the blue line trolley to the mexican border. i got a round trip ticket for $5. during peak there is a trolley every 15 minutes and it seems to take about 45 minutes to get to the last stop at the border town of san ysidro, california.
i wasn't quite sure where to go so i asked a transit policeman who was standing right by the trolley. he pointed and said to just follow all the people. as soon as i rounded the building by the trolley i saw the entrance to the bridge. it was very solid, more like a tunnel than a bridge, except it was elevated. it was a fair walk. at the end were 2 sets of full height turnstiles. i didn't notice anyone getting any attention from the police.
an information office just before the second turnstile had closed at 3 pm. a cluster of men not far outside on the left turned out to be taxi libre drivers. i had a $2 coupon off taxi fare to the campamento massage parlor. the driver said it was closed because they employed ****d girls although the website is still up. i thought of asking to go to mermaids or adelitas instead but he said he knew another very good massage parlor.
he took me to luxor and even walked right inside with me. they obviously knew him. i opted for the $55 massage with the masseuse naked rather than the $40 with her in a bikini. this was paid to the house. anything else was to be negotiated with the girl in the room.
6 girls were in the line-up. it was a difficult choice. i liked the honey blonde babe who had been doing the talking. but i went with this big boobed raven haired ivory skinned amazon who must have been 5' 8" or 5' 9". her name was karen.
she didn't look particularly hispanic, but she must have been because her english was very skimpy. when we got to the room with the professional massage table i was given my choice of beer or wine but opted for bottled water. i undressed quickly. she stripped off her tightwhite pants, bra, red sweater, and beige panties. she seemed to get a kick out of watching me watch her do this. she looked very good stripped down - a tad soft, but great natural tits, round ass, and a proportionate waist.
she asked me something. i finally figured out it was what extras i wanted. for everything she wanted $100. ok. up front. ok. i started to lie on my stomach so she could massage my back. no. lie other way up. ok. she immediately starts putting a condom on me. she slides her mouth up and down my shaft like shes pumping for oil. we do a fair amount of this and then she climbs on cowgirl style. up and down. back and forth. my hands roam. her body feels good all over. she stops. "all finished?"i was pretty sure i hadn't come so i say, "i usually have to finish by hand [because of a retarded ejaculation condition]." she starts out with condom on. i get her to take it off. i finish myself off exploding while thinking how great tit fucking her would be. she has me clean myself off with paper towels and a cloth towel. while i am getting dressed i swear she is emptying half a can of air freshener in the room.[/quote]
i did like the report. however i think the prices were too high.
no negotiations??? you paid $155 for some sex (and no massage). you should have at least gotten a 30 min massage for your $55, then the rest could follow. get your $55 worth first, then after the massage you could negotiate for extras $50-60 should get it done. but let her earn her pay. come on now.
since you were south of the border, i'm thinking you should have known you can get a girl at a club. you mentioned adelitas in your post. the girls at adelitas can be had for $60 plus a $12 room fee. thats only $72 (no $55 house fee for a massage). in fact, you could have had 2 girls for $144 and walked out with $11 left.
gentlemen, please, never accept the 1st price a girl tells you. even in the states, you can find massage parlors that charge $55-75 for an hour massage. then negotiate for the extras.
just my .02 cents. no offense intended at all.
i hope this information helps others on future trips. dd
Donnie D. I must agree here seems a bit to much, Double nickle the thing that would have pissed me of is that she made me clean my self, I hope you did not give her a tip or anything seems to me you got ripped off. But next time negotiate she probably was an American and playing dumb, but you never know.
Happy hunting to all
Double Nickle:
The taxi driver took you to Luxor because he gets paid to do this. I'm pretty sure that El Campamento is open.
Also....you paid too much.
ya those are those Taxi Driver "tricks" I've had those comments told to us many times. Our preference is Adelitas or that area, so when we have a Taxi driver tell us that the area is closed or has alot of cops, and the next line is a comment about another place such as the Luxor or Purple Rain, we either jus tell them, we've been here many times and know that line he's pulling on us. If the Taxi Driver is being a pain about it, just ask him to take you back to the Taxi place or La Linea and you're going back home. Cut your losses and pay the $3-5. Hop on another Taxi and I'm sure the next driver wont tell you the same thing.
I've had eager friends that even beg me to not go back to the border, not thinking that we are actually still trying to get to AB. My first rule in going to TJ is keep as safe as possible. Try not to get into any trouble. Do not make a big deal of something that you can fix, such as the taxi driver deal. Its only a few dollars, its not worth it to argue with the guy and get into trouble. You never know, the guy can get pissed off and drop you off in the middle of no where or lead you to Federales.
every time i read that a guy get's in a cab and the driver says he "knows of a good place," i cringe.
mongers have to read the board a bit more closely. double nickle was obviously taken for a major ride, he got a girl that couldn't get him off, paid full price, and to rub himself out, then clean himself up.
it's not hard to be easy on a noobie, but that's just me. the girls, the cab drivers and the clubs spot noobies a mile away and they wring their hands with delight.
here's something you can cut out and put in your wallet:
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1. approach first taxi driver.
2. do not get in car yet.
3. say "adelitas for three dollars plus two dollar tip, ok?"
4. wait for taxi driver to answer.
5. taxi driver says "yes," or "si," then get in and go.
6. taxi driver says anything other than what is in 5, above, approach next taxi driver and go back to #2 above.
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if the taxi driver (after geting you in the cab) says something like "ju know seenior, adelitas was closed because they use **** girls?"
you say: "really???" "wow." "well i always wanted to go there when it was closed." he won't get it, but don't worry because it doesn't matter. just make him take you to adelitas.
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sounds like it's time to open a monger college, if i charged you what you would have otherwise lost, i'd make a fortune!!!!
be safe and be nice.
country john
When I used to take the taxis, I would say, 'I'm meeting my friend in front of Adelitas at 4pm'. They cannot argue with that.
I learned my lesson at Purple Rain. $40 bar fine then negotiate upstairs. What a ripp off. Taxi drivers get a tank of gas for every so many people they hustle in.
Same thing here, if the taxi driver asks or suggests anything, I politely decline and tell him I'm meeting my friends at the Arch or Adelita Bar.
Never, never engage in any discussion of mongering or talk of looking for women or anything of the sort. Just "I'm meeting my friends."
i made a trip out to tj and like before i left my car at the us side. glad i did cuase on the way back i saw the huge line i would've been stuck in. i always take a cab after crossing and say adelitas and cuanto es? i make sure i get a price before i get in and do not part take in any conversation because i know they like to size you up before they scew you. i was curious that the local sd pd was checking ids before hitting the mexico side. maybe checking for **** as they ignored me when i went by. had a few beers in ab and hit my first girl after two suds. i walked around to shake it off and strolled thru the alley. the pickens are less pretty but the price is better than ab. around misnight i went back to ab and the place was crowed. i had to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] so in the can some idiot showed up busting in and threw up all over the stall doors. really ingenious! everyone bailed out cause of the stench. i went back out and hit the alley again. to my surprise there was a black bbw on the corner that spoke good english and was trying to get a brother to go to the room with her. i figured she was from across the bridge trying to make some money here. the board has helped a lot to make my trips to tj a whole lot smoother so thanks to all and as always thanks jackson!
be safe!
I did something out of the ordinary last week. I couldnt believe myself actually. I'm usually in the Oceanside/SD area every so often. Of course, since its only an additional 30 min drive to the border, you'd think, hey might as well hit up AB, right?
Well, last friday, we actually were in the area pretty early, so it would have been the perfect time to hit up AB. We hop on the fwy and start heading down at 10pm or so. A few miles down, something got to me or I dont know. and I actually suggested that we just head back home and not go to TJ this Friday night. Thats totally unlike me, haha. I couldnt believe I turned down AB for the first time.
I guess there's gonna be times that you gotta make the call not to go. LOL.
I hope its not too often that this happens.
Another trip and another good time in TJ, almost. I went for thee gals, two a hotties that were definitely worth it, and an average one that wasn’t too good. Oh well, to a certain extent it’s a crapshoot. The lesbo show at HK bar was great and if I hadn’t blown my wads earlier I would have gone for one of the girls in the show. She was just my type, young, tight and good-looking. A few tacos later and it was a cab back home.
Then came the rip off from the local police at the Sentri border crossing. All of my previous trips I never encountered the police but had taken precautionary actions. This time I forgot. There were five officers waiting by the border, one was a petite woman. They frisked me and took my wallet. Asked if I had any drugs, or guns. The older guy asked all the questions and the gal went through my wallet. They had me with my hand on the wall. When they were satisfied the gal hands me back my wallet, I take two steps and look in it and see that a $100 dollar bill was missing. On all of my other trips most of my money was in a shoe. And I mean in a shoe, not just a sock. My Spanish is pretty good so I tell them that there is money now missing from my wallet. The older guy doing all the talking says I must be mistaken, and then the girl says the same thing. But she had a smirk on her face. Well I knew I was out the money, but I wasn’t going to go down without a fight. Fighting figuratively, even confronting them is treading on thin ice. So I knew I had to come up with something better. I tell the cops that I was sure I left with 3 $100 bills, when actually it was two. I opened my wallet and showed him the only one in my wallet. He reiterates I must be mistaken and I insist again that I am positive there were 3 because I counted them before I left the bar and now there is only one. Then I looked right at the gal, indicating to them I knew she took the money. Our eyes met and her smirk was gone and replaced with a small scowl because she knew that the others were going to expect her to come up with $200 when she clipped only one. Now they all think they got a big chunk of change coming so they really don’t want me around, besides I wasn’t drunk or obnoxious, just certain and insistent. I made my huff, like all ripped-off gringos, and head for the border.
Sure they got the best of me, but to keep up the charade she couldn’t admit they were stealing from me. I hope I was able to make the little *****’s life a more difficult, if only for a night. It was a $100 lesson. Shit.
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Confirming Surfnik9's report of heavy police presence + searches at the Sentri crossing. At least 10 of them are waiting for you. Sad...
We've been fortunate to not get hassled with all the times been to TJ. We're usually in a group of 2-3, 4 at most. Sometimes holding a soda can and walking leisurely. We're never drunk or anything, of course trying to lay low as possible, but you never know. Anything can happen and can get caught up by the Sentri cops.
Luckily it was just money Surnfk9. Sucks still though.
Regarding about money. We usually never bring wallets or large amounts of money. For the newbies, try to only bring a certain amt that you want to spend. Set a budget. there's always a next time to spend more, you dont have to do 3-4 girls in a day. hehe.
But going there we split the wads into several groups. Usually, put about $80 all together, to cover the room and the chick, to cover each session. That leaves spare change for the tip guy. I put this on one of the back pockets.
Another bundle is your $1s, $5s and maybe $10. Thats for the beer, food and/or cab fare. So you're not fumbling for big bills on the street and have looky loos lookin at your fat wad of 20s and 100s. I usually put this on the front pockets for easy access.
The 3rd bundle, I usually have the backup $80-100 just in case for another session. I have just the money and the ID here placed in the other back pocket.
If need be, Another couple hundred is in my shoe or if I have other pockets that nite.
I try to prevent pulling out all what I have at once so it doesnt look so obvious you have alot of money all together. There's no need to have and show you have a big fat wad when buying a taco, or paying for the room or paying your girl.
When I go to TJ I only carry as much money as I intend to spend.
[quote=country john]every time i read that a guy get's in a cab and the driver says he "knows of a good place," i cringe.
mongers have to read the board a bit more closely. double nickle was obviously taken for a major ride, he got a girl that couldn't get him off, paid full price, and to rub himself out, then clean himself up.
it's not hard to be easy on a noobie, but that's just me. the girls, the cab drivers and the clubs spot noobies a mile away and they wring their hands with delight.
here's something you can cut out and put in your wallet:
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1. approach first taxi driver.
2. do not get in car yet.
3. say "adelitas for three dollars plus two dollar tip, ok?"
4. wait for taxi driver to answer.
5. taxi driver says "yes," or "si," then get in and go.
6. taxi driver says anything other than what is in 5, above, approach next taxi driver and go back to #2 above.
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if the taxi driver (after geting you in the cab) says something like "ju know seenior, adelitas was closed because they use **** girls?"
you say: "really???" "wow." "well i always wanted to go there when it was closed." he won't get it, but don't worry because it doesn't matter. just make him take you to adelitas.
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sounds like it's time to open a monger college, if i charged you what you would have otherwise lost, i'd make a fortune!!!!
be safe and be nice.
country john[/quote][quote=donnie d]i did like the report. however i think the prices were too high.
no negotiations??? you paid $155 for some sex (and no massage). you should have at least gotten a 30 min massage for your $55, then the rest could follow. get your $55 worth first, then after the massage you could negotiate for extras $50-60 should get it done. but let her earn her pay. come on now.
since you were south of the border, i'm thinking you should have known you can get a girl at a club. you mentioned adelitas in your post. the girls at adelitas can be had for $60 plus a $12 room fee. thats only $72 (no $55 house fee for a massage). in fact, you could have had 2 girls for $144 and walked out with $11 left.
gentlemen, please, never accept the 1st price a girl tells you. even in the states, you can find massage parlors that charge $55-75 for an hour massage. then negotiate for the extras.
just my .02 cents. no offense intended at all.
i hope this information helps others on future trips. dd[/quote]this trip (6 march 2007 - sorry for the delay) instead of turning left at the information office to go to the taxis, i turned right. you go through a turnstile and there is a fairly well defined pedestrian walkway. a pedestrian bridge crosses the tijuana river. this pedestrian way leads you right to revolution avenue downtown, the main tourist section. there on revolution and 2nd is a huge massage sign on top of a building. a modest entrance led to aztec massage. i almost went in but wanted to check out wendy's near guerrero park. i didn't find it without the exact address but i did see other massage places.
i decided to verify my taxi drivers statement last trip that la campamento was closed. i could have turned right just outside the last turnstile gate and been there in a few blocks. instead from guerrero park i walked down calle coathuillo from the other side. one place on the north side of the street had scantily clad beauties outside (in the early afternoon). a bit further east on the south side of the street i saw the sign "adelita." a tall knockout in red hot pants nearly made my eyes bulge out of their sockets.
a bit further on i picked up a tail. "hey, you looking for something?" "you want a massage?" i tell him "i know where i'm going" and i point to the la campamento sign across the street. but that is apparently where he wanted to take me. he catches up to me. i'm about to go in the calle coahuilo [however you spell it) entrance. "no, no, that's the hotel entrance, you want the side entrance." around the side there is a parking garage entrance with a guy seated in a chair. we go through there and to the left and there is the entrance to the la campamento massage parlor.
i go in a door in the all glass front, and down a short set of stairs in the lobby. i am told to wait on the couch. another guy, anthony, comes in and tells me 30 minute massage only is $40. massage and sex for 30 minutes is $90. massage and sex for an hour is $120. i select the $120 option. he has the 3 available girls line up in front of me. they are all young and attractive. it is a hard choice but i pick elonga (not sure i heard the name right).
she takes me to a room just off the waiting room. it had a wide massage table that looked homemade. she had to move all her personal junk off it. the room had it's own bathroom and shower.
i start taking my clothes off: shirt, shoes, socks. she comes back in, closes the door and starts taking hers off while i remove my pants. her body has a bit of a tummy bulge in profile but she is still young and hot - a little soft but not flabby. i would guess she is around 20.
she has me lie on my stomach with my head in a very stiff opening in the massage table. she puts oil on my back and rubs my neck, shoulders, and back for a short time. she doesn't even get to my buttocks or legs. "turn over." i wonder if she is going to massage my front but she has the condom out to put on.
she's stroking me by hand to pump me all the way up. then she gives me a good blowjob though the condom feels too tight. maybe there was a sale on slims.
then she starts riding me cowgirl style. my hands wandered all over her tits, hips, and thighs. that young flesh does feel good. she would alternate between moving up and down on my cock, wriggling side to side and back and forth, and letting me bounce my hips up and down. we do this for quite a while and i'm in heaven.
finally she climbs off me and starts whacking me off by hand. after a bit i take over. meanwhile she goes to town on my nuts and fondles my thighs, arms, and chest. very nice. the condom is still on. "can i take it off?" "no." "ok." so i have to work extra hard on top of my retarded ejaculation condition which means i have to wank myself really hard for the final release. with her help i explode into the condom.
she goes into the bathroom and brings me a bit of toilet paper to mop myself up. i take off the still tight condom. a drop of jism falls on my chest and we both go, "ew."
she offers me a shower which i take. she sits on the toilet seat and watches. kinky. i like it. then she takes a shower, concentrating on her pussy. i dry myself. then she dries herself. we dress. she opens the door for me, lets me kiss her on the cheek, and i bid her adios.
on my way out anthony plugs for a tip (optional) and i give him $5. it is a lot easier getting a taxi back than it is getting one to your chosen destination. there is a taxi stand on the corner just outside luxor. i don't know where one is here, i just walked the short distance back.
on my way back a guy on the pedestrian bridge across the tijuana river put in a plug for a drugstore. he said girls were available too. i told him i'd just been taken care of at la campamento, but maybe "next time."
when you get back near the border the border bridge, mexican customs, and the information office are on the west side of the big highway. take a walkway across the highway. the taxi will probably let you off by here too. walk towards the border past a lot of shops to us customs which is the major bottleneck. but once you're through customs and exit the building you are immediately in front of the trolley stop back to san diego.
double nickle
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I took one for the whole team last weekend. There is a relatively new bar in the zone that is being heavily promoted by the street hawkers (most of whom are criminal deportees from the US). It is on the east side of Constitucion, almost directly adjacent to the alley and it is called "Delicious". Well, I was doing my usual rounds and every time I walked by there were at least three dudes hassling me. I know from experience at TJ that the worse the bar is, the more they hassle you - you never see guys in front of AB, CC or HK because they know already that these are the best clubs and that mongers want to go there.
Anyway, for the purposes of reporting on this forum only I decided to peak in and take a look. I entered and ordered a Dos Equis. It is two storey place and the downstairs portion is pretty small with a few tables and a stage. They have strip shows but they are not continuous. There were about 5-6 women when I was in there, and about 3 other guys. Place was dead at 10pm. Anyway, I am drinking my beer when Sandra de Guatemala comes over and asks if I want company. I didn't really, but she seemed nice so I bought her a ficha. We chatted amicably for a few minutes, and it seems that the few people who do go into that bar are mainly locals with the occaisonal American guy on his first trip to the zone that they sucker inside.
Finished my beer and went upstairs to the restroom. The upstairs portion is quite a bit larger than downstairs, and it is their VIP section (which makes no sense). There was nobody up there, and I didn't stick around to ask what, besides higher prices, makes it a VIP section.
Conclusion: avoid this place. It is not very good, and I didn't see too many quality women there. I am sure there might be the occaisonal gem in there, but it is not worth repeated trips to find her. The guys out front are aggressive, but just tell them "no, gracias" and keep walking. They will leave you alone after a minute.
Blue Nose
Delicious isn't a new bar, but it has been completely remodeled recently, so it was closed for several months. I liked it more before, when it was a dive bar.
[QUOTE=Roguesta]I liked it more before, when it was a dive bar.[/QUOTE]
Hah! Actually, Bar Delicias is still a [b]dive bar,[/b] but I know what you mean. It's name has been Bar Delicias for years, but prior to the remodel it had a big painting of Homer Simpson on the outside with a title something like "Taberno de Moe" in a futile attempt to appeal to Americans.
I did stop by at the end of March and wasn't particularly impressed with the remodel. Downstairs, they relocated the bar and stage, but the major change was opening the upstairs floor which previously was just storage.
This bar is owned by the same folks who own Hotel Cascades, Miami, Hong Kong, Las Chaveles, Rizo de Oro, Bar Tropical, and La Tropa Bar. But it has its own manager.
Last year, I took a girl from here back to my room for the night, but was very disappointed in the service. On my last trip, I enjoyed a beer with a somewhat attractive gordita morena, but things didn't go any further. The place was basically, dead with just some locals drinking. It really isn't worth the effort, move along.
Mike
I guess the difference is that, now, Bar Delicias is pretending to not be a dive bar.
[QUOTE=Roguesta]I guess the difference is that, now, Bar Delicias is pretending to not be a dive bar.[/QUOTE]
It was a taste of the old zona, that's for sure. I took a girl one night, she was a bit over 30, but she had a great bod and a big smile.
I took her to my room at the Leyva, we were all hugs and kisses etc and had I great session for about 1-1/2 hours gor $50.
Immediately after the session, I paid her and she immediately got dressed and left. She was as cold as a block of ice after the session. I thought the place was a dive then but I was looking for a break from the standard routine.
The zona is a place where putting lipstick on a pig is simple because it never really matters.
There are a couple of cool old bars around but that was not one of them.
The pushy waiters are easy, just keep saying no after buy your beer.
Country John
[QUOTE=Roguesta]Delicious isn't a new bar, but it has been completely remodeled recently, so it was closed for several months. I liked it more before, when it was a dive bar.[/QUOTE]
It's funny - I had walked by that place a million times and never even noticed it or thought to go in until they put the new sign and the aggressive hawkers out front. Lesson learned here - aggressive marketing tactics really do work. At any rate, sounds like they have cleaned it up a bit inside but like many of you guys, I enjoy a taste of the old zone - the really dumpy bar with girls of mainly 5-6 quality with the occaisonal gem thrown in. If you like semi pros, these places are the only game in town. They have got character!
Blue Nose
Is there anywhere within 1-2 blocks that is safe to walk to purchase Cialis/Viagra in the Zona. I typically purchase a pill right as I cross the border and go right by the McDonalds. However I never want to have any pills on me so I consume what I buy in the pharmacy. I have on occassion wanted to purchase a 2nd pill for a long day of action. I one time saw them selling something like that in the HK bar but didn't look further.
I know there is a pharmacy on the street 1. 5 blocks after you leave AB, exit right, and then right at taco stand. I am not sure how late it is open or how high quality it is. Also there isn't any privacy there as there is no door to enter. The pharmacy by the border is very discrete (just in case). Also I don't know what hours the various pharmacies are open. Worst case I would just take a cab back and purchase and then cab back to the Zona if I was really horny I guess. I only want to buy name brand products in packaging just to be safe as money isn't a major issue.
I have been to the Zona about 10 times in the last 3 years. I have mostly spent my time in CC/AA and a little of the HK club for fun. I have read several posts talking about picking up a chica from other clubs (La Tropa, Bar tropical, and others). Any specific good clubs would be appreciated. Also directions (like left, right) as I can never remember the streets and names.
Anyone know of a web site that has names of streets and all of the TJ clubs on it? That would be cool.
[QUOTE=Netman05]I have been to the Zona about 10 times in the last 3 years. I have mostly spent my time in CC/AA and a little of the HK club for fun. I have read several posts talking about picking up a chica from other clubs (La Tropa, Bar tropical, and others). Any specific good clubs would be appreciated. Also directions (like left, right) as I can never remember the streets and names.
Anyone know of a web site that has names of streets and all of the TJ clubs on it? That would be cool.[/QUOTE]
When you exit Adelitas, cross the street. There you'll find Mermaids and further (to your left as you stand outside AB) is Bar Tropical. La Tropa would be one block to your right as you exit AB. Purple Rain is all the way to the end of the block (to the right), cross constitution, then to the end of that block (revolution) then turn left; you can't miss it.
The key to buying Viagra is to take it in the store, not on the street. You should have no trouble finding a farmacia anytime, just don't carry it around with you.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Do you recommend any of the escort services that are available in Tijuana?
I do like the idea of having a full hour with a chica in a decent hotel. Price seems a bit high but might be worth it if it is conveniant and if the chica is hot.
Thanks for any input - Dave.
[QUOTE=Netman05]I have been to the Zona about 10 times in the last 3 years. I have mostly spent my time in CC/AA and a little of the HK club for fun. I have read several posts talking about picking up a chica from other clubs (La Tropa, Bar tropical, and others). Any specific good clubs would be appreciated. Also directions (like left, right) as I can never remember the streets and names.
Anyone know of a web site that has names of streets and all of the TJ clubs on it? That would be cool.[/QUOTE]
Netman,
There is a map on this thread with a lot of bars, restaurants, and street girls locations on it. I saw it awhile back and printed it out.
Just go through the guide and look for it.
Donnie
[QUOTE=Netman05]Anyone know of a web site that has names of streets and all of the TJ clubs on it? That would be cool.[/QUOTE]
Mission complete -
Netman look in the TJ photo thread #244
Country John[/QUOTE]The key to buying Viagra is to take it in the store, not on the street. You should have no trouble finding a farmacia anytime, just don't carry it around with you.
Be safe and be nice,
Country John[/QUOTE]CJ,
Since you are definitely the resident Zona expert I wonder if you could tell me specifically where to buy Viagra in the Zona without walking to an unsafe neighborhood. I am not sure which of the Farmacias are open 24x7 and if you can walk to them safely at night. Any help greatly appreciated.
After finishing my business in Ensenada, my friend and I headed back to the border only to find ourselves in a 3 hour Sunday night parking lot. I glance to my left and see a HUGE line of people. Wondering what they were doing, my friend tells me they're trying to cross through by foot.
We were going to park on the US side and then re-enter but took a pass when we saw literally hundreds of people waiting to get through on the other side. Is this common? I remember only having to wait 10 minutes max back in the day. Looks like it would take an hour or more by foot plus it was real dark with a bunch of locals hanging around.
Is there a faster way in and out?
[QUOTE=Netman05]CJ,
Since you are definitely the resident Zona expert I wonder if you could tell me specifically where to buy Viagra in the Zona without walking to an unsafe neighborhood. I am not sure which of the Farmacias are open 24x7 and if you can walk to them safely at night. Any help greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Netman, thanks for the compliment but I am certain there are members who know a lot mroe than me but since you asked, there is no such thing as "safely" walking around or outside the Zona at night. In fact, I would advise you to not do that.
Here's what you do: hail a taxi libre and tell the driver that you have $5.00 for a ride to a farmacia close by and return after effectuating your purchase. Chances are you'll go a few blocks, and then return but you'll be MUCH safer than if you walk, both from the cops and the thugs. Get to the farmacia, do the thing and then get back.
Now if you absolutely insist of taking a walk, then wallk up the hill (on constitution) and the farmacias are there and they're usually open late. Don't expect any "deals" from them however, and know that the cops are watching the place. Take the V pill inside before you leave the store. If I were you wing man for a night, that's how I'd handle it.
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Netman05]
Since you are definitely the resident Zona expert I wonder if you could tell me specifically where to buy Viagra in the Zona without walking to an unsafe neighborhood. I am not sure which of the Farmacias are open 24x7 and if you can walk to them safely at night. Any help greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
What time of night were you planning on walking?
I'm heading down to TJ in June and thinking about staying overnight in TJ. I remember there were a couple of posts mentioning good hotels, but I can’t find them.
I’ll be down there mid-week. I’m not looking for anything fancy, just clean, safe and comfortable. Oh, and not too pricey.
I don’t particularly care to stay in the Zona. Anybody with some experience staying at a local hotels in TJ?
After a very nice time in the Zona, took a cab back to the border. As a was walking up, two cops stopped me for a "routine inspection" The female one when through my pockets while the male asked me what I was doing down there, where I live, did I have sex with girls at the titty bar, etc.
Had a couple hundred left in my pockets, the female cop apparently helped herself to $80. No sense in arguing about it, it's not like they;re going to give it back. Certainly worth the fee NOT to spend the night in a TJ jail.
Word to the much wiser than me. Put your money in your sock before crossing and leave only $10 or so in your pockets.
Thanks for the tip LuLu!!
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]After a very nice time in the Zona, took a cab back to the border. As a was walking up, two cops stopped me for a "routine inspection" The female one when through my pockets while the male asked me what I was doing down there, where I live, did I have sex with girls at the titty bar, etc.
Had a couple hundred left in my pockets, the female cop apparently helped herself to $80. No sense in arguing about it, it's not like they;re going to give it back. Certainly worth the fee NOT to spend the night in a TJ jail.
Word to the much wiser than me. Put your money in your sock before crossing and leave only $10 or so in your pockets.[/QUOTE]
This is not good. They're back to full strength by the looks of things.
You need to have your money IN YOUR HAND when you step out of the cab. Don't keep it in your pocket. Did you get the name of the officer by chance?
You guys need to step it up a bit, stop "letting" this happen. Stop making it sooo easy. If you have the money in your hand you can count it in front of them when they ask you to show it to them.
I agree it's terrible. Really terrible.
Country John
Yep theyre everywhere, am latino so they dont bother me, but word of caution, just take enough cash for your purpose and leave just enough for when they frisk you you have some on you, otherwise they will get mad.
I always leave my wallet in the car or at home and just take enough for drinks, cab fare to and from the zona, food and ofcourse for 1 or two sessions with the senoritas, I bring back in my pocket about $20 to $25 If am asked for a "voluntary donation" to keep the streets safe.
[QUOTE=Country John]This is not good. They're back to full strength by the looks of things.
You need to have your money IN YOUR HAND when you step out of the cab. Don't keep it in your pocket. Did you get the name of the officer by chance?
You guys need to step it up a bit, stop "letting" this happen. Stop making it sooo easy. If you have the money in your hand you can count it in front of them when they ask you to show it to them.
I agree it's terrible. Really terrible.
Country John[/QUOTE]Country John,
I love your reports. Reading up on this forum the week before I make my bi-annual trek to TJ is a major help. You are a wealth of information. You are a lucky man! You're girlfriend sounds awesome.
BALDY CRUISER
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]After a very nice time in the Zona, took a cab back to the border. As a was walking up, two cops stopped me for a "routine inspection" The female one when through my pockets while the male asked me what I was doing down there, where I live, did I have sex with girls at the titty bar, etc.
Had a couple hundred left in my pockets, the female cop apparently helped herself to $80. No sense in arguing about it, it's not like they;re going to give it back. Certainly worth the fee NOT to spend the night in a TJ jail.
Word to the much wiser than me. Put your money in your sock before crossing and leave only $10 or so in your pockets.[/QUOTE]This is their MO. The gal takes your wallet while they have your hands up for a search, the older guy does all the talking and she takes some but not all your money. They got me for a clean $100 dollar bill.
However, when I protested I inflated the amount. I said it was $200, and I made sure all the other cops there heard me (about 5 of then). That way they would be expecting more from her, I’m sure they all split the take. Anything to make their lives, and trust for each other, more difficult is fine by me.
I learned my lesson. Try not to have any money left over and if you do stash it well.
[QUOTE=Country John]This is not good. They're back to full strength by the looks of things.
You need to have your money IN YOUR HAND when you step out of the cab. Don't keep it in your pocket. Did you get the name of the officer by chance?
You guys need to step it up a bit, stop "letting" this happen. Stop making it sooo easy. If you have the money in your hand you can count it in front of them when they ask you to show it to them.
I agree it's terrible. Really terrible.
Country John[/QUOTE]The last time I got frisked walking back I had put it in my hands. They we're trying to tell me to put my hands on the wall, but I said not until I get my 85 dollars in my hand. They didn't even look at my money in my hands against the wall, but they throughly searched me hoping to find something to get my money from me. Also by knowing how much you've got and saying it out loud really upsets them because they know it'll be harder to get. I've lost too much from them in the past to ever give them anything easy. TJ use to be fun, but I stopped going as often because of the polica problems. I also use to spend lots of money and bring friends, but now it's strait to AB by myself. It's too bad because more money would be spent in the community if this polica problem wasn't so well known.
You may not see me post much, but I am a monger for many years I personally like to drive over and stay at hotel of my choice the best advice which works for me, is before I leave I put the cash in my trunk under the trunk covers, this has worked since the early 70's. CJ is a little more current then I so take it where it comes from
Good luck to all.
two sat nights ago, 2am. seven cops at the sentri drop off, all huddled in the darkness under the bridge. i got out of the cab and headed way over to the right. i thought i made it through, nope. two peeled out right towards me. the usual occured. (1) my money went into my hand. (2) cdl out and ready. (3) usual dumbass questions from cops. just visiting friends, two beers only, unemployed. the cops search me. i told them not to leave anything in my pockets. he told me he was a professional and did not do that (lol). on my way with no ripoffs.
the professional policia seem to be back to full potential. probably with the blessing of the new mayor.
[QUOTE=Baldy Cruiser]Country John,
I love your reports. Reading up on this forum the week before I make my bi-annual trek to TJ is a major help. You are a wealth of information. You are a lucky man! You're girlfriend sounds awesome.
BALDY CRUISER[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I try to keep everyone as informed as possible.
Coming to TJ is an "experience" that sometimes becomes a "way of life" for many guys old and young. It's easy to get caught up in the allure of the latina too. I was married to one for 15 years and I'm two years into another relationship.
Guys like One Wing Low are very correct too, at the end of the day it might not be difficult to get laid State-side for less than the total tab in TJ. Guys going to TJ anjoy a certain anonymity and a whole new set of rules. Sex with young latinas is possible here without the fear of reprisal where State-side, sex for money can cost you the farm -literally.
There is also an "edge" to TJ that adds to the package. The problem is that there are rules in TJ that are easy to break and when you get caught it can be dramatic. Take police action for example, if you make a mistake and are caught the consequences usually involve money.
There is a lot of information here and it should be digested. A lot of guys posted a lot of experience.
Country John
[QUOTE=Xxnegrito]Yep theyre everywhere, am latino so they dont bother me, but word of caution, just take enough cash for your purpose and leave just enough for when they frisk you you have some on you, otherwise they will get mad.
I always leave my wallet in the car or at home and just take enough for drinks, cab fare to and from the zona, food and ofcourse for 1 or two sessions with the senoritas, I bring back in my pocket about $20 to $25 If am asked for a "voluntary donation" to keep the streets safe.[/QUOTE]
I find your post contradictory. On the one hand you say the police don't bother you and at the same time you say you carry 20 to 25 for the voluntary donation so they won't get mad.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]I find your post contradictory. On the one hand you say the police don't bother you and at the same time you say you carry 20 to 25 for the voluntary donation so they won't get mad.[/QUOTE]
Xxnegrito was not really contradicting his self. He wrote he has an extra $25 'in case' he is asked for a donation.
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]I'm heading down to TJ in June and thinking about staying ove
I don’t particularly care to stay in the Zona. Anybody with some experience staying at a local hotels in TJ?[/QUOTE]Hotel Villa de Zaragosa is nice, chica friendly and not too pricey ($50-70). 7th and Madero behind the Jai Alai Fronton (a mile from la zona). In Plaza Rio area try Hotel Lucerna ($90-100). Excellent restaurants, ambiance, security and clientele (mostly business folks). If you take a chica there for dinner and order the tableside Caesar salad, you will get on her gold star list.
Planning to hit TJ on Friday nite.
Any mongers care to join me?
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Going to TJ takes a lot of time driving, crossing border, taxiing, walking then walking back, waiting in line in US immigration...In average it costs me 6 hours minimum to go then come back.
Besides the cost in time, when you add up the gas, parking, taxi, girls, hotel, drinks etc... you are spending at least about $120 -$150 per trip for one pop.
I went to CL and found a few nice girls who do quickie for $100. The last one was a petite blonde, 5', 100 Lbs, with an tight, hard, almost perfect body with nice round boobs and a pretty face. She is nice and sweet as hell too. She works out of a hotel near Disneyland. She's one of three girls who work there.
There is some risks of getting entrapped by LE with CL ads. So we need to trade among ourselves phone numbers of real working girls, especially the nice, pretty one. Anyone wanting to trade, PM me. I am into Asians, small white girls or Latina.[/QUOTE]Yes it can be more cost effective, but that's why it's best to "pop" more than one. I use to go to the "alley" right away. Then stop by the pharmacy before having some tacos and beer. Then to AB for a more fun and if with friends more food, another trip to the pharmacy and back to AB. I haven't done that since being hassled over a year and a half ago when me and my friend lost $500 to the polica. We usually would spend all day wandering around and buying things at the shops. Now it's get in get out and then come back later if you feel like it. To each their own, but the risks of LE are enough to drive me to marriage. (LOL) Just kidding.
[QUOTE=Mofo Monger]Planning to hit TJ on Friday nite.
Any mongers care to join me?[/QUOTE]Am game if you drive, we can meet up somewhere.
You guys need to be careful with the drugs and booze. Viagra is powerfull medicine and taken in combination with other stuff could be deadly.
A well known monger has his face on the TJ Morgue website because he was reckless (at least this is is what I think killed him) as he died in the Zona Norte, and was extracated from one of the hotels there. He was a young guy too.
Think about your body and your health, think about your family and those who would be affected by your death if something should happen to you in the Zona.
Be careful, please.
Be safe and be Nice
Country John
I am going to be in San Diego and my only free day is Sunday. How is the action in TJ on Sunday. Is it worth going to CC or AB? Thanks in advance guys.
Jay
[QUOTE=JayHighFive]I am going to be in San Diego and my only free day is Sunday. How is the action in TJ on Sunday. Is it worth going to CC or AB? Thanks in advance guys.
Jay[/QUOTE]I've been going to TJ on Sundays evenings/nights for the past couple of months. In fact, I went hog wild a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday night. Mainly because I work mon through sat; but AB starts getting busy and packed around 10p or so; and CC is relatively sparse the whole night/fewer girls than AB. There are still a lot of hot girls working sundays though; and I usually see one or two of my favorites at both places. I prefer the "slowness" of Sundays; you can get better, unrushed service as well. You won't have a million guys to compete with. The only drawback is that some of the girls could be tired from a busy weekend (Fri & Sat). I think you'll see something you like on Sundays at either AB or CC, and perhaps the alley as well.
Jay
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Going to TJ Friday June 8. Leaving LA about 6PM, returning about mid night. Meet up at a location along Freeway 5.
Let's go in force to split costs, have mor fun with your bros, and so we wont be harassed by the stupid policia.
Sign up here.[/QUOTE]Like I responded last week, am game, just let me know how to contact you.
Does anyone know how much a cab would cost to go Zona Norte to the Otay Mesa border crossing? How would you ask in espanol to go to there? Yo quiero ir otay mesa? Can one cross at that location by foot at all hours?
So besides the Zona Norte area, what else is there to see and do in TJ besides the annoying little stores that all sell the same crap?
I go there and walk on Revolucion st and some other close by streets but there really doesn't seem to be much to do at tj. Plus it gets tiring walking so much. I need something to help kill time between pops. Also note that I'm not there with a car. Prefferably something that doesn't cost money or at least not much money.
I've tried just spending time in the bar but I get annoyed with all the smoking, and loud music which gives me a headache. Plus I don't like having to turn girls down while I'm waiting, I figure they'll end up taking it personally. Plus I've had some that I turn down, go sit opposite side of the table basically just cockblocking me from any other chicas.
So any suggestions on stuff to do or cool places to go and kill time?
[QUOTE=AbleGray]Does anyone know how much a cab would cost to go Zona Norte to the Otay Mesa border crossing? How would you ask in espanol to go to there? Yo quiero ir otay mesa? Can one cross at that location by foot at all hours?[/QUOTE]
Very good Able. Actually it would be: Yo quiero ir a Otay Mesa. [ a (spanish)=to (english) ]
Alternatively: Otay Mesa por favor. (Would certainly work)
Alternatively: Otay Mesa. (Simplest and would certainly also work)
No idea what cab fare would be.
[QUOTE=AbleGray]Does anyone know how much a cab would cost to go Zona Norte to the Otay Mesa border crossing? How would you ask in espanol to go to there? Yo quiero ir otay mesa? Can one cross at that location by foot at all hours?[/QUOTE]
I think you should be able to get there for $100 pesos if you waive it under the cabbies nose... It's probably a 20 minute drive from El Centro, don't go during rush hour however or it will add significantly to the travel time and the cost.
Country John
ablegrey, i have never taken a taxi to otay but i can confirm this place is a mess, you will as other places have to walk past all the people selling thier wares, the traffic is terrible, and the smell is terrible, i have only crossed with my car and that is pretty dangerous, the people seem to be complete idiots trying to jockey for a non existing position.
if you try leaving by car on the last bridge you will have difficult time getting onto the road, people just do not want to let you in. as cj has said leave non peek hours i do know there is a lane for the taxis, but i do not know where they drop you off. from the zona i would imagine it to be between 5 to 10 dollars, plus tip.
good luck
[quote=firedsup]ablegrey, i have never taken a taxi to otay but i can confirm this place is a mess, you will as other places have to walk past all the people selling thier wares, the traffic is terrible, and the smell is terrible, i have only crossed with my car and that is pretty dangerous, the people seem to be complete idiots trying to jockey for a non existing position.
if you try leaving by car on the last bridge you will have difficult time getting onto the road, people just do not want to let you in. as cj has said leave non peek hours i do know there is a lane for the taxis, but i do not know where they drop you off. from the zona i would imagine it to be between 5 to 10 dollars, plus tip.
good luck[/quote]
i agree. one interesting thing about otay is the "money converter" guys that are in lanes ready to convert your pesos back to dollars. i wonder why they don;t do that at san ysidro? one obvious answer of course is robbers, but it seems to be working at otay.
Thanks for the info.
I may go that way some time.
El Jefe Jackson has an excellent Club and Boliches list over in the Argentina/Buenos Ares thread. I'd like to propose that we create a similar list for Tijuana. I'm willing to create and maintain the list - truth is I'll probably end up making the list for myself as my own research - but I'm not sure if there's enough interest here for it to be published. Let me know if you're interested. If there's an overwhelming response (or even a small response backed up by subscription support for the forum) then I'll start assembly. Here's a general idea of what I'm thinking:
Club, Hotels, Restaurants List
-Clubs
Adelita Bar
Las Chavelas
La Valentina
Miami
Hong Kong
Rio Rosas
La Tropical
Pollo
Delicias
Chicago Club
Playboy
-Hotels
-Restaurants
La Perla
-Other
Have a great weekend all
CM
[QUOTE=Efjayel]So besides the Zona Norte area, what else is there to see and do in TJ besides the annoying little stores that all sell the same crap?
I go there and walk on Revolucion st and some other close by streets but there really doesn't seem to be much to do at tj. Plus it gets tiring walking so much. I need something to help kill time between pops. Also note that I'm not there with a car. Prefferably something that doesn't cost money or at least not much money.
I've tried just spending time in the bar but I get annoyed with all the smoking, and loud music which gives me a headache. Plus I don't like having to turn girls down while I'm waiting, I figure they'll end up taking it personally. Plus I've had some that I turn down, go sit opposite side of the table basically just cockblocking me from any other chicas.
So any suggestions on stuff to do or cool places to go and kill time?[/QUOTE]One place I have found is Viva Mex Massage. This is a legit massage/health spa, no happy endings here and don't bother to ask. The place is clean and the girls are pleasant. They give a true, deep tissue, full body massage. For me, it is so good that I work out a bit harder right before I go on a mongering trip; just so I'm a bit sore and enjoy the massage that much more. They do a great deep tissue foot massage that has brought me tears of joy.
I go in the afternoon before the evening adventures, but I have read on this forum that others that use it as a relaxing resting stop between mongering sorties. Just google, Viva Mex Tijuana and you'll get their website.
There are other bars besides those in Zona Norte. Check them out.
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Damn good idea
Best Taco Stand: corner Nino hero and Coihuila[/QUOTE]
Best legit massage: VivsaMex
I have mongered in Mexicali, Nogales, and Algodones many times but am making my first trip to Tijuana in early July. I plan on staying 2 or 3 days. I have read the forum and found that hotels "Hacienda de Santiego" and "Nelson" are close and chica friendly. I have two questions. First do these hotels have secure parking? I have driven in Mexicali alot and am not afraid to drive. I would like to enter Mexico from Mexicali and drive to Tijuana. I would rather drive if there is secure parking as I don't want to cross the border every day to check on my car at the border parking lot. Secondly if I do decide to leave my car across the border and stay at one of these motels, how much of a hassle is it to carry a back pack with clothes and other hygiene items? Do the policia hassel you much and going back how much does customs hassel you if you have a back pack?
Thanks
Amigo69
Question: Why do people say not to carry Viagra with you and you take it before you leave the pharmacy? Is carrying it illegal? Also, is it a bad idea to bring your own condoms with you and carry them on you?
Thanks
Hi, all.
I'm a long-time lurker to a couple of these boards, primarily the TJ and Burma ones. I finally broke down and registered just to "give back" a little. These boards are a wealth of information, and have proved useful on a number of occasions when planning trips, etc.
My experience, over the last 6 or 7 years, has been primarily in SEA, with a little Central America thrown in. I got interested in TJ a couple of years ago and started digging through this board. Brockton's guide was very helpful, although a bit dated at the time. A study of all the contributions here made my first time a good experience, indeed. But that's ancient history.
This post is really to thank all the contributors here, especially Country John. Keep up the good work!
I had a very nice trip last Saturday, but have been too busy to post. I'll fix that problem now. I decided to visit a few venues that I'd never seen. The first portion will be posted in this thread, as none of the other threads really apply to those places. The last part will be under the Chicago Club thread (where I've always had great experiences).
Thanks again.
PP
finally got a chance to go to tj last saturday. i hadn't been since near the end of baseball season last year. too busy, too many other places to go!
i called my "regular" (and i use the term loosely, as i don't go too often) but she, apparently, was visiting family in chiapas. (actually, she was, as she called on monday and said so). so, i opted to save a few bucks and not go for a tln. turned out to be something of a mistake, but hey.
got tied up with some work on one of my project cars, got a late start and didn't get down to the border until almost 8:00. parked at the ueta lot, aka the san ysidro public urinal! was a lot more paranoid than usual, thanks to all the policia warnings posted on this board. so, opted for a taxi instead of walking. had him drop me at sanborn's near 2nd, i think. i didn't realize there were two!
i'd read some earlier posts about mexico lindo, so, having never been, figured i'd poke my head in and take a look. wandered up la revu to 7th, turned right, and there it was. didn't look too impressive, three viejos were hanging out in front of the door. oh, well, gotta take one for the team. so, in the door.
it's a small, dark place with a u-shaped bar in the middle of the room. the girls tend to hang out in the corner on the right as you enter. there are a few tables rep001tered around the room's periphery. there was a large room off the the left that looked long-unused. typical men's room with the attendant scrounging tips.
gordo viejo was sitting at the corner of the bar nearest the door, three chicas huddled in the corner just past him. so, i perched on a bar stool on the opposite side of the bar. beers are a little pricey, considering the location, at $3.50 each. this is about 8:30 on saturday and there were 2 customers, me and gordo. this does not bode well. i check out the chicas, but it's kinda dark and my eyes aren't what they used to me. they don't look too impressive.
mid-way through the first beer one of the chicas comes over and sits two stools down. i just kinda "ignore" her to see what happens. eventually she says "hola" and i say the same. this is a kind of game i like to play sometimes, when i don't really care if i talk to the girl or not. i like to see how far she'll go to break the ice, etc. a few minutes later she says something else and i "give in" and start to chat her up.
she's magdalena from chiapas. probably about 5' 6" maybe a bit more. reasonably attractive, but no knockout. somewhat short, light brown hair. smokes like a chimney. very little english, but i can speak sufficient spanish to carry on a basic conversation. wound up buying her 3 drinks (at $7.50 a pop!), another couple of beers for me, and schmoozing for a couple of hours. she's only worked in this bar for about a month (where have i heard that before?) but her reason was that, prior to that, she was pregnant with her third kid. that pretty much killed any stray notions of sampling this girl's wares.
during the conversation i had her tell me the names of the other girls. there were only 5, including her, so it wasn't a lengthy list. one was the fabled lorena. she'd come in about 30 minutes after i'd begun speaking to m. i would've liked to chat with her for a few minutes, but she either came in with the guy who was next to her, or he came in immediately after her and glommed onto her. she looked to me about a 7, dressed conservatively, seemed "nice" from her body language. probably the nicest looking chica in the room, but that's a big fish in a very small pond.
one topic that came up was the lack of clientele. m said the place was always tranquilo, but that business had been adversely affected by the policia. apparently, word of the shakedowns is spreading and a lot fewer people are visiting. (way to go, guys! kill that golden goose!) she asked if i'd had any trouble, but i hadn't, except one time on the bridge. she expressed concern that i would even consider walking across the bridge. so, it's taxis for me from now on.
while yakking it up, a drunk american wandered in with a young, rather large hispanic lady. he began, very loudly, letting everyone in the bar know that it was his daughter. weird. then, after ordering drinks, every time the chubby bartender would come over he would thrust his hand down her blouse and make loud comments. the girls are rolling their eyes, the poor bartener looks really embarassed, and i can't believe the tolerance most mexicans have for gringos borrachos.
oh, well, after a bit magdelena starts making very subtle hints about me having a lady, etc., etc. we never got around to discussing money, as i really wasn't interested. then, a male friend of hers came in, she gulped down the rest of her drink, gave me a peck and hopped over to his table. they were gone within 10 minutes. better him than me... so, finished my beer, finished listening to my songs on the jukebox and headed out. it was around 11:00pm.
so, after investing a couple of hours and around $40 (drinks, tips, jukebox) i now knew what i'd come to find out. mexico lindo is now a quiet little "neighborhood" bar. there was never more than about 14 people at the peak of business, including the bartender, bathroom attendant, wandering guitar player and the working ladies. it's a good place to grab a quiet drink, i suppose, but not as good for that as the bar in the hotel nelson. there were no girls there that i would even consider paying $100/hour, assuming that's still the going rate.
i'll cut this short here, and resume with another post. sorry for the length.
pp
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[QUOTE=Aictj]Question: Why do people say not to carry Viagra with you and you take it before you leave the pharmacy? Is carrying it illegal? Also, is it a bad idea to bring your own condoms with you and carry them on you?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Well, it is technically illegal to purchase or carry Viagara/Cialis/Levitra etc. without a doctor's prescription. However, at virtually any farmacia in Mexico, one can buy virtually any drug (with the exception of some controlled substances) without a script from a doctor, and the law is really only enforced for Americanos who come to Mexico to load up on cheaper medication. Basically, it is simply an excuse for the Mexican policia to extort money from you. The reason most posters here advise you to take the Viagara as soon as you leave the farmacis is so that, in case you are stopped, the cops will have one less excuse to take your money.
In general, I advise people to bring their own condoms (purchased in the US) with them, just because I believe that our own medical regulatory system (which has its own faults) is better than that of Mexico's. In Mexico, it is very common practice to bribe public officials so that they will "look the other way" while laws and rules are flouted. There was a case a number of years ago where contaminated milk was sold and a lot of people, kids mainly, died from it. Turns out that the company bribed local health inspectors and sold the milk knowing that it was bad. While I think for the most part the condoms they have in Mexico are fine, I generally like to control the situation by bringing my own. That way I can guarantee that it has been stored properly and not past its expiration date etc.
With the exception of one individual on this forum who was fined for "prostitution" by having condoms on his person (a trumped up, BS charge if ever there was one), I have not heard of any problems with guys carrying condoms around. I have even been stopped and searched by the police while carrying condoms and they just had a good laugh about it and gave them back. The cops know why you are there, that's for sure!
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Amigo69]I have mongered in Mexicali, Nogales, and Algodones many times but am making my first trip to Tijuana in early July. I plan on staying 2 or 3 days. I have read the forum and found that hotels "Hacienda de Santiego" and "Nelson" are close and chica friendly. I have two questions. First do these hotels have secure parking? I have driven in Mexicali alot and am not afraid to drive. I would like to enter Mexico from Mexicali and drive to Tijuana. I would rather drive if there is secure parking as I don't want to cross the border every day to check on my car at the border parking lot. Secondly if I do decide to leave my car across the border and stay at one of these motels, how much of a hassle is it to carry a back pack with clothes and other hygiene items? Do the policia hassle you much and going back how much does customs hassel you if you have a back pack?
Thanks
Amigo69[/QUOTE]
You are right about Hacienda de Santiago and Nelson both being chica friendly and close to the zone. While HDS has its own parking garage, Nelson does not. However, you can simply drive into the zone, turn towards Chicago Club and park in the Hotel Leyva parking lot, right next to CC. This is a guarded parking garage, and I have never had any problems there. There is also another pay lot across the street from the Leyva parking lot.
Personally, I prefer to park in San Ysidro and walk into TJ. Going south with a small backpack will not even get you a second glance from the bored Mexican customs guy. If you take a huge suitcase, they make you push a button which, if a light flashes red, means your stuff will be inspected. Most people just walk right past it and on the rare occaison when I have seen somebody press it, it usually comes up green (they have these at all Mexican border crossings, and I believe they are random).
No problem walking back with a small bag either. The customs guys sometimes ask you what you bought in Mexico, but that's about it. Just keep in mind though that after you pass immigration, your bag will go through a large X-ray machine on the way out of the building. You have to do it, or they will yell at you and make you stop. They are looking for drugs etc., so just be careful what you pack. If it's just a bag with personal effects, they really couldn't care less.
Bluse Nose
out of mexico lindo, walked a couple of blocks down la revu to clear my head and get a breath of fresher air. rats! forgot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url].
grabbed a taxi libre and asked to go to adelita's. interesting note, driver had just left the meter running for who knows how long, never turning it off. not really sure how this might benefit him.
had him stop across the street, as i had no intentions of going to ab. i decided to check out tropical bar, as i'd read quite a bit about it on this forum. with bladder bursting i hot-footed it inside.
there's a bar along the back wall, a raised dance floor off to the right of the entrance, tables all around the dance floor and stools along the bar. squeezed through a pack of vaqueros borrachos in the men's room, squeezed back out again, and looked around.
this might be an interesting place to pick up a "less experienced" chica, on other days or hours, but tonight, saturday at around 11:00, it was packed with locals. i would've liked to had the cowboy hat concession! every seat was taken, lots of others milling around. four or five couples dancing. music at full volume.
now i like to dance and enjoy it. spent oodles of $$ with arthur murray years ago. been to loads of honky-tonks when i lived in the mid-west. have seen the inside of almost every disco between yangon and phnom penh. but i've never really gotten the hang of the sort of "hippity-hop" style preferred by a lot of the mexicans. so, dancing doesn't look like an option. it's difficult to carry on a conversaion in a foreign language when you can't hear, so chatting up a young thing doesn't look likely. and, while i like almost all kinds of music, some is better than others. i rank ear-splitting ranchera and nortena just below cambodian karaoke. so, strike three. time to move on.
out the door, turn right, go to the corner. decided to check out club pollo across the street.
the club is a strip club, nice atmosphere, new carpeting, fairly clean. the waiter shows me to a booth and won't stop bowing and scraping. nice guy, but give it a rest! it's kinda long, booths along the left side as you enter, a stage on the right, tables around the stage and down the length of the room. bar and banos in the back. beer is $2.50.
sit, get cerveza, watch. format is girl dances one song, takes a quick break, dances a second where most of the clothes come off. first problem is that there is a severe girl shortage. the place is about 1/3 full, with everybody sitting in booths. figure 10 or 15 customers. girls are sitting with them, and there are almost no girls "available." they were all fairly attractive and the ones i saw were pretty good dancers, too. but the lack of chicas made the place seem pretty dead. one would have to drag her ass out of her booth and away from her customer, dance her set, then go back to her customer. then a few dead minutes while the process is repeated.
i don't have a problem with the latin style of having the chicas hang around and force you to go up and do the choosing, but that wasn't happening here. the three "available" ladies were all clumped together in the corner booth, like so many finches. and i have never had good luck having a waiter or mama-san pick a girl for me. such experiences have always been duds. so, finish the beer and move on.
as i had to walk past on my way to cc, i figured i'd look into mermaid's and see what all the excitement was.
again, on a quiter night this may be interesting, but tonight, now around 11:15, it wasn't. it's a small place, with a small stage in the middle of the room, tables around it, a sofa in the back. several stools around the entrance and at the small bar, which is on the left as you enter. girls are dressed in the cutesy "catholic schoolgirl" motif, with tiny plaid skirts, knee socks, white blouses, etc. beers at $3.00, i think.
this place seemed to be suffering from management problems. there were sufficient ladies, but they were never around. upon entering and grabbing a seat, the waiter wanted to know if i wanted to have a girl come sit with me. he pointed to the only female in the place, a rather large lady in street clothes, sitting at the bar. in fact, he pointed out that she was large. i declined and said i really didn't care for large ladies. :-) after a bit, a bunch of the girls came in off the street, one rushed onto the stage and did her dance routine. very good, and she knew her way around a chrome pole. next thing i know she's finished and gone. then all the others vanish, too. weird. several minutes pass, customers come in, see nothing and leave. others sit down, see nothing and leave. eventually, the girls show up again and perch on the stools by the door. one dances (very well, i might add). finish beer, half an hour wasted, time to relocate. now it seems to me the point of a bar is to attract customers and sell drinks. having your attractions, i.e. the ladies, wandering in and out all night, during prime business hours, while customers are entering, turning around and leaving, seems a poor way to run a bar.
it's getting late, i've learned a lot about where not to go on a saturday, it's time to get serious. off to chicago club.
i'll finish in the chicago club thread.
pp
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Great trip report. Pollo is a rip off joint and they've been struggling for the past few years. They used to have a jumping club but the maseros got dirty and the girls got careless, no customer service etc. Save your money on this place.
Country John
Nice trip report, pollo bar for as long as I can remember, has had nice looking gals and great dancers, but very limited on the gals, not enough always be careful there, bartenders would get $100 bill or twenty and change was never right, since this place is away from the main attractions be careful as far as causing any problems when you do not get the right change. Could be very unhealthy for you.
It is an interesting place pop your head in maybe you might get a better night, if not walk on by.
Happy hunting
[QUOTE=Country John]Great trip report. Pollo is a rip off joint and they've been struggling for the past few years. They used to have a jumping club but the maseros got dirty and the girls got careless, no customer service etc. Save your money on this place.
Country John[/QUOTE]Say, monguru de tutti monguri, what's your 2 yen on this New York Bar? A friend and I are going to TJ Thursday night (2 nights of mongering, then a cab down to Rosarito for some beaching/fishing/whatever, then back on Sunday for more mongering).
So far, I've been into AB, HK, CC, Tropical, but only booked parties at AB and the alley.
Would like to try some other places, and this New York place sounds okay from the board so far. Any particular warnings, or endorsements * ?
(The State *****mongering Bar of Nevada does not certify any *****monger as a specialist. Statements made by these horndogs have not been evaluated by the FDA for safety or efficacy, but Country John seems to genuinely know his shit.)
[QUOTE=Slowroller]Say, monguru de tutti monguri, what's your 2 yen on this New York Bar? A friend and I are going to TJ Thursday night (2 nights of mongering, then a cab down to Rosarito for some beaching/fishing/whatever, then back on Sunday for more mongering).
So far, I've been into AB, HK, CC, Tropical, but only booked parties at AB and the alley.
Would like to try some other places, and this New York place sounds okay from the board so far. Any particular warnings, or endorsements * ?
(The State *****mongering Bar of Nevada does not certify any *****monger as a specialist. Statements made by these horndogs have not been evaluated by the FDA for safety or efficacy, but Country John seems to genuinely know his shit.)[/QUOTE]
No experience in New York bar, it's new and I need to check it out. You can trust One Wing Low's report however and I would go there based on his report.
You need to keep your head straight in all bars however as any waiter or girl might try to take advantage of an opportunity to become unjustly enriched. Having said that, you can session the girls then pop up to Revolution, maybe hit El toritos for some relaxation, dancing and cervesas. When you re-charge you can hit the zona again.
Pollo is a rip-off bar using all of the rip off tactics they can dream up. From short changing to over-charging to bringing shit to the table that you didn't order. They short time you on the girls who also try to rip you. Not the kind of experience you are looking for. I'd stay away from the place.
Does the State *****mongering Bar Of Nevada at least recognize one with in excess of ten years experience as an "expert?"
You and your wingmen be safe down there OK? Have a good time but keep your wits about you.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]No experience in New York bar, it's new and I need to check it out. You can trust One Wing Low's report however and I would go there based on his report.
You need to keep your head straight in all bars however as any waiter or girl might try to take advantage of an opportunity to become unjustly enriched. Having said that, you can session the girls then pop up to Revolution, maybe hit El toritos for some relaxation, dancing and cervesas. When you re-charge you can hit the zona again.
Pollo is a rip-off bar using all of the rip off tactics they can dream up. From short changing to over-charging to bringing shit to the table that you didn't order. They short time you on the girls who also try to rip you. Not the kind of experience you are looking for. I'd stay away from the place.
Does the State *****mongering Bar Of Nevada at least recognize one with in excess of ten years experience as an "expert?"
You and your wingmen be safe down there OK? Have a good time but keep your wits about you.
Be safe and be nice
Country John[/QUOTE]
Hey CJ,
As far as I know the New York Bar is not new at all - I remember going there (and the Manhattan Club) as far back as '97 or so. It's not quite like the other clubs in the Zona, however; it's more like a nightclub/cabaret sort of setup. There's the standard 3-song strip act onstage, interspersed with the occasional variety act (e.g. a magic show or comedy routine). The atmosphere is usually a little classier than the usual Zona Norte hangout, and the ladies tend to be dressed to match (classier but still sexy). I never took any of these girls for a test drive as a customer - I was already getting mine on the side - but I do believe that take-out is also on the menu.
At least, this is how it was the last time I went - but that was a [u]very[/u] long time ago.
[QUOTE=Smut Villain]Hey CJ,
As far as I know the New York Bar is not new at all - I remember going there (and the Manhattan Club) as far back as '97 or so. It's not quite like the other clubs in the Zona, however; it's more like a nightclub/cabaret sort of setup. There's the standard 3-song strip act onstage, interspersed with the occasional variety act (e.g. a magic show or comedy routine). The atmosphere is usually a little classier than the usual Zona Norte hangout, and the ladies tend to be dressed to match (classier but still sexy). I never took any of these girls for a test drive as a customer - I was already getting mine on the side - but I do believe that take-out is also on the menu.
At least, this is how it was the last time I went - but that was a [u]very[/u] long time ago.[/QUOTE]
You are exactly right, I mis-spoke. By "new" I meant "remodeled," Like the "new" Bar Deliciouso or whatever. It was receently remodeled but I have yet to go in since. I walked past it with my girlie a few weeks back (and a few memories came back to me of course) and I explained to the barker outside that the place has a reputation as a rip off joint with pushy waiters etc., and he said: "I know."
Thanks for pointing that out.
Country John
[QUOTE=Tyhigs77]I hope you guys dont mind me asking this here.
How long on average would you say it takes to cross the border from the US to TJ and vice versa? How long are you waiting in line?
Also, from the San Diego area, is there an alternate way to get into Baja without having to go through TJ? Just to avoid the local TJPD.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]How far down are you going?
In years past on countless surf trips, I crossed the border in the early hours of the morning just to avoid the cops in TJ and Ensenada. The plan was to get to the other side of Ensenada just as the sun came up. You don’t want to drive the country roads at night, cattle are not uncommon on the country roads; and early morning hours meant less chance of policia encounters. So the usual routine was to get to the border around 4:00am, do the money exchange and insurance (which is a must), TJ by 4:30 and Ensenada at 6:00; then on to points south.
Heading north now a days is a lot longer. A friend just told me it took her 7 hours to get back on a Sunday afternoon/evening.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Tyhigs77]I hope you guys dont mind me asking this here.
How long on average would you say it takes to cross the border from the US to TJ and vice versa? How long are you waiting in line?
Also, from the San Diego area, is there an alternate way to get into Baja without having to go through TJ? Just to avoid the local TJPD.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
In the evenings during the "rush hour" it can take up to 20 minutes by car to enter Mexico. Walking is no problem, there are usually no delays in crossing on foot. There are usually never any problems entering Mexico by car or on foot, so don't worry about it. The delays are in getting back State-side.
Coming back is a different story, it depends on the time of day. again, rush hours are rediculous. Some mongers have been standing in line for 2 hours during rush hour periods, at other times late at night it's a breeze but you have to watch out for cops if on foot.
Driving back at night can be a one to two hour wait on average. No problems with cops while you're in your vehicle however, unless you look like a punk.
There is no other way to get to Rosarito or Ensenada without passing through Tijuana. You might try entering at Otay, but you'll still pass through TJ to get on the highways to Baja.
when you come to Mexico, be prepared to be stuck in lines, and be plesantly surprised if you are not.
Be safe and be nice,
Country John
[QUOTE=Tyhigs77]Also, from the San Diego area, is there an alternate way to get into Baja without having to go through TJ? Just to avoid the local TJPD.[/QUOTE]
There's a new free road named Blvd 2000 between Tecate and Popotla that you could use to bypass TJ. The road connects to the free road in Popotla.
[QUOTE=Heyzeus]There's a new free road named Blvd 2000 between Tecate and Popotla that you could use to bypass TJ. The road connects to the free road in Popotla.[/QUOTE]
Thanks guys. I was thinking of going to Rosarito. If I still have to go thru TJ even by going through Otay, then I might as well take Tecate.
Actually I'm more concerned about the return trip to the US than the entry into MX.
I read on Wikipedia that some people keep a car on both sides in garages, and walk across on foot in order to beat the traffic. This is for frequent commuters who live on the opposite side from where they work. Any thoughts on this?
Is there a place I can look up this new BLVD 2000 near Popotla?
[quote=tyhigs77]how long on average would you say it takes to cross the border from the us to tj and vice versa? how long are you waiting in line?[/quote]friday evenings, from about 3:30pm to maybe 8:00pm, cars entering tijuana will be backed up for an hour or two. most otherwise the delay is minimal. as cj said, the m-th return commute will cause a short back-up.
entering the u.s. by car, you can expect a mean of about an hour and a half with a standard deviation of about thirty minutes. the worst times to cross are on the weekends between 2:00pm and 10:00pm and anytime there's a three-day weekend in the u.s.
entering tijuana on foot, even at the busiest times, will occasion only a five-minute back-up at the first turnstile.
entering the u.s. on foot almost defies description. weekdays from 4:00am to maybe 7:00am the delay is usually minimal but by 8:00am the line can be an hour and a half long. weekends beginning around 1:00pm until very late the lines can be as much as four hours long. the most fun can be had, however, very early on saturday and sunday mornings, say between 3:00am and 5:00am, when the lines are not only slow but made up of drunken gringo party animals too cheap to rent a hotel room: these shining examples of u.s. cultural exchange are either vomiting, passed out, or trying to provoke the bcis into fights ... a few times i've known them to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url] on the walls inside the building ... and a couple of times the bcis simply closed the building until the crowd outside came to order (adding another hour or more to the delay).
crossing times are of great interest to tijuanans. most local radio stations give reports every fifteen minutes or so. you can also check online nowadays -- although i have personally found them frequently inaccurate -- by clicking the "garitas" link on [url]www.el-mexicano.info[/url] or [url]www.frontera.info[/url] or [url]www.tijuana.gob.mx[/url] .
[quote=tyhigs77]from the san diego area, is there an alternate way to get into baja without having to go through tj? just to avoid the local tjpd.[/quote]excuse my naïveté, but whereabouts do you have run-ins with the municipal police force? and why do you have those run-ins?
there are three highways entering rosarito from the north: búlevar 2000, the carretera libre, and the carretera cuota. even though it's wicked fast, búlevar 2000 would make sense only if you were crossing at otay and heading directly to rosarito and then only if you can get on it without first getting lost. the libre is how i go to rosarito. in light of your fears of the local police, however, i would recommend you stick with the cuota -- the local police don't even have jurisdiction on it.
[quote=tyhigs77]i read on wikipedia that some people keep a car on both sides in garages * * * any thoughts on this?[/quote]and i have read in wikipedia that el yunque does not exist. personally, i don't know of anyone who has a car on both sides of the border. some fronterizo chicanos will borrow a car from a family member, yes, but i suspect that the two-car story is just another urban legend from the borderland. anyone who can afford two cars and the monthly rent to store them should have the wherewithal to get a sentri pass instead. even when the sentri lanes are backed up, the frustration isn't anything like what a pedestrian will encounter.
[quote=tyhigs77]is there a place i can look up this new blvd 2000 near popotla?[/quote]if you're asking for a map, try the city's website at [url]http://infogeo.tijuana.gob.mx/website/siter1/tijuana.htm[/url] (you might have to come in through their homepage, since the url for "carta urbana" or "cartografía oficial" changes a lot). or you could just go to a bookstore here in town and ask for a current map; there are a couple of good ones for five or six bucks.
if you're asking how to identify the access road as you're driving north on the carretera libre, then the answer would be to look for signage on the right-hand side of a three-way stop close by fox exploration. it will look like an ordinary intersection, with storefronts of pharmacies and what-not, but there will be a small highway sign indicating tijuana to your right. it quickly becomes a commitment admiting to few u-turns and passing through twenty miles or more of attractive desert countryside. unless you're prepared to wind up somewhere between tecate and nuevo tijuana, i would advise that you not take mr toad's wild ride.
pg
[QUOTE=Tyhigs77]Thanks guys. I was thinking of going to Rosarito. If I still have to go thru TJ even by going through Otay, then I might as well take Tecate.
Actually I'm more concerned about the return trip to the US than the entry into MX.
I read on Wikipedia that some people keep a car on both sides in garages, and walk across on foot in order to beat the traffic. This is for frequent commuters who live on the opposite side from where they work. Any thoughts on this?
Is there a place I can look up this new BLVD 2000 near Popotla?[/QUOTE]
I haven't seen this new road on map yet.
Here's a link from bajanomad that will give you directions to the road from the Otay Mesa border crossing.
[url]http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=24396[/url]
[QUOTE=Heyzeus]There's a new free road named Blvd 2000 between Tecate and Popotla that you could use to bypass TJ. The road connects to the free road in Popotla.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the link but just for the record it doesn't go between Tecate and Popotla. If you read the directions you'll see that it hooks up with the ROAD to Tecate. Tecate is further to the east.
Popped down for a few hours yesterday (Wednesday). Saw a regular who I hadn't seen in quite a while.
Now Wednesdays are pretty quiet in TJ anyway, but it was really dead along La Revu. We usually eat in this little place she calls the "downstairs restaurant. " I can't remember the name, but it's more or less opposite Agua Caliente, off the street and down some stairs. The food's quite good, as is the service. I think she knows the lady who runs it, or something. But it's well worth a visit.
Anyway, she starts telling me how really bad TJ's hurting, at least those who depend on the tourist $$. She uses this place as sort of an object lesson. Half the place is now dark. The outside "patio" has been bricked up, as they couldn't affort the extra rent, or whatever, for the extra space. And she told me that pretty much the whole city is suffering the same fate, as it were. She then proceeded to lay the blame squarely on the TJ cops. People hear the stories and stay away in droves.
This was sort of confirmed today (as if we needed any more confirmation) when I visited a customer's office. I was chatting with his wife. They went to Ensenada over last weekend. They're a little older, extremely nice and very well-to-do. Just the kind of people you would WANT as tourists. They missed their turn for the toll road and got a bit lost. Next thing you know they're nabbed for DWG. They got fleeced for $140. Of course, they didn't know enough to politely resist or dicker. So, another loss to Mexico, dollar-wise, as they'll never go back, and another black eye for TJ.
As somebody else said, the Mexican people really do deserve better.
And, to hop on my soapbox and open a can of worms, legalization of drugs would put a LOT of very evil people out of business overnight. And that might go a long way to clean up Mexico's corruption. And I don't now, nor have I ever used drugs. Not even pot.
PP
Great observations by your amiga and I agree that the only way to have any kind of control in the 'drug war' is to legalize & regulate just like alcohol or Viagra.
Tax the shit like beer & cigarettes, get the country out of debt and put the dealers out of business on both sides of the border.
PP for president!
Anyone headed to TJ this weekend?
It's a sad fact that the rampant corruption in Mexico is to blame for tourist issues and hence cash flow issues in TJ. I have a lot of friends in business there and the story is the same, one to the other. These are restaurant and club owners, mostly on Revolution who have watched as their business dropped by over 50% in the last year. They are hurting, they are pissed and they are scared.
TJ might hardly do as an index to the climate throughout Baja, but it is a unit of measurement to be sure and if it's any indication of the climate in Baja then one could draw from that the conclusion that people are staying away because of the unpredictability of the cops and the uncertainties of safety issues. The horror stories just keep on rolling in.
Mexico is short sighted, there are a very few who are forward thinkers and moving forward means encroaching on the domain of the vested interests and that would include the cops and the drug trade. It seesm that it is not possible to get the co-operation and unity of purposes straight to where things improve.
The people of Baja are the ultimate victims. Not only do they lose the revenue from tourism and the weekend warriors, but the climate adds a bitter taste to already controversial issues South of the of the border. It's not fair to them, but nobody seems to care, very sad.
You can be certain that, in a tightening economy, the "vested interests" are feeling the pinch too. I'm not sure how much hurt the Zona is feeling, I'll be around tomorrow night and I'll ask a few people, but business is down as well, as reported here.
People are right to be afraid and concerned. Especially if they don't know how to deal with the cops, it can be a bone rattling experience to be sure. Business in Mexico is very very tough. It breaks my heart to do this but I am closing two businesses within the next six months and all but pulling out altogether. Very sad.
I am tired of being pulled into offices by business associates and told (behind closed doors and drawn curtains) that I need to be "very careful" because of the crime against business people, kidnappings etc. I understand the need for personal security, but making it a priority as part of a normal routine is something I am not sure I can live with.
There are many reasons why business don't make it, and none have to do with the work ethic. It seems as though you can't turn the "fire" up past 1/3 without attracting the attention of the cops, politicians and other "officials" all of who want a piece of the action. Similar to the system in California I suppose, but totally unregulated.
I'll keep my relationship with the girl as long as I can and evaluate even that on a month-by-month basis.
I love Mexico, I love the people, the culture etc. But sadly, there is a practical side to life and one needs an income, stability and freedom like what we enjoy State-side. Freedom from fear is probably number 1. Being well off in Mexico sucks.
I dont think I would actually discourage people from visiting, and I don't want to spook anyone now. I intend to keep my relationship with my girl and review every 30 days or so. I would however say that you MUST have your game face on and you MUST understand where you are and WHY it's important to have a mechanism for dealing with the cops. If you can't program an extra $150 or so for "unexpected emergencies" then develop your plan for dealing with the cops and make it a good one.
Remember, in your dealings with merchants in TJ (whether a retaurant masero or shoe shine guys) that things are tough right now, and it's not their fault. Be polite and respectful. They are going through routh times.
I am not certain if things will change much for the better in my lifetime but I DO intend to find a different ray of sunshine in Mexico with my girley and stop thinking that anyone can enjoy commercial success if they are about the right thing. Only the very well connected and very well off could undertake a commercial activity that would be worthwhile and profitable over the long term.
Sorry for the long post. I'll stop here.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
I totally agree with CJ but I will go one step further and say I also stopped going as much because of the quality of girls and service I was getting. I have noticed the past few times I went down, one was a Thurs. and one was a Wed. that HK had very few gringos around spending money. At the same time I look at some of the girls and see the same faces from 2 years back when I first started going to the zona. Not a bad thing if the girls are worthy but most still have attitudes and ask for a lot of money. I have gotten lucky a couple times but I would say my batting average of getting a great girl is about 2 out of 10 times I go down, so I'm hitting 200 lol. I know a lot of people have their regulars and that is great, definitely a different situation, but I like to enjoy different girls. Of course if I really like a girl I have no problem going back for more but those have been few and far between.
It is really sad for all the people who are get hurt by these corrupt police officers and high officials but I can't see it changing. I have been to TJ, mainly revolucion, about 500-700 times back in my junior high and high school days and it is still the same scene but just worse. You really have to feel bad for the people who are trying to run a business down there and can understand why so many people risk their lives to come to this country.
Hopefully more people, I mean in the US, write letters talking about the abuses and the people of TJ force action to better their lives. I mean can you imagine if TJ was clean, police friendly, etc...? It would make so much money it would be amazing... still I just think the greed and corruption is too deep and with so many things run by the drug cartels nothing will ever change.
I think Fox had the right idea with making small amounts legal. Bush put on the pressure because if TJ would have cleaned up, then it would have been a model for America to follow. (Imagine that.)
The polica I hate as of late. I use to walk around TJ smiling, noding, and spending way more money than I do now. Getting two 20's taken because I was dumb enough to bring Yohimbie with me across the border. Though legal and I told them to take me to jail, they just "lifted" the cash while searching. However it was the time my friend and I lost over 500.00 USD for his perscription medications that really ticked me off. They even gave them back because they knew it was legal and they had all our cash. Though I got 25 back from them saying I at least needed an alley girl on my trip. (LOL) So now the cabbies get more money and the merchants do not. I always gave the guy on the bridge a dollar on my way back if I hadn't been hassled. He's always friendly and smiling rolling around up on the bridge. I haven't seen him in ages due to me being all about business and cabbing strait to AB and then back to the border. It's quite sad.
The hard times are most likely going to get worse before it gets better. I still make trips here and there by myself and I have many friends who have asked to join in my mongering adventures. I go alone unless it's someone hard core who won't puss out when pressured by polica or a beautiful latina. What makes me sad is all the people that are trying to make a better life for themselves in Mexico. Without the tourist dollars the crime, corruption and violence will escalate affecting those there trying to live a better life there. No wonder so many try to come to the US for a better life, but even that has risks. A never ending cycle that both countries need to work together to solve, but with our history, I wouldn't trust us either.
Tj Monger 101 stuff.
Parking was good behind the Burger King near the end of the trolley line. Take either 5 or 805 to the last US exit and stay to the left. Drive over the freeway into the "Business District". Drive over the trolley rails and behind the Burger King for $5 parking for first 8 hours. Other parking in the area is $7 to $20. I used a Club, so didn't worry about car theft.
It takes about 1/2 an hour to get from parking to chica. 10-15 minutes worth of a walk to get across the border and 10-15 minutes worth of a cab to Adelita. Even if I'm not going to Adelita it's a well know spot central to the Zona. I also go to the right towards the McDonalds and catch a yellow cab. Btw. The drivers wear a yellow shirt so they're easy to spot.
AB was extremely busy at 3:00 on a Saturday. No seats available in the front of the house. Some seats in the far back right. Groups of Americans were walking in 4-5 at a time. Probably 40-50 chicas on the floor with a good mix of tall, short, cute, hotties, chunkies, pick your flavor. They tend to wait for you to approach them. Once you do, they may warm up a bit. The ones that stay frosty once you start talking to them (or start out with "Hi, want to go to hroom? ") are the ones to avoid.
Chicago Club (CC) however, was desolate. Being the only gringo in there for a while I received all the attention. Three chicas sat around me at the bar, grabbed my hand and put it on choice portions of their anatomy. I counted about 12 chicas, no customers. I'm guessing that with supply/demand microeconomics in force, the chicas would be open to negotiation and spending time more so than in AB. Enjoying the attention, but not interested in more than that from the three providing it, I drank my $4 cerveza and moved on.
Valentina bar, on the Alley was also desolate. Darker than both AB and CC, I would guess about 6-10 chicas of second/third tier quality.
New York Club, down the street from AB, looked to be just opening. No chicas, no customers, no bartenders. One guy in front receiving medical attention with lots of Policia around. Dunno if it was shock at the price of chica drinks or a viagra induced attack.
Taxi back to McD's and walk across the bridges to the border. No cops in sight and about 15 minutes worth of a wait at about 6 PM.
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Hi cm,
Good report, but I believe it is the parking lot behind the Jack in the box restaurant you are talking about.
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Just got back from TJ this morning. Please use CAUTION when returning home. I was searched by two policia in front of the taxi drop-off area, by the pedestrian overpass. Spread eagle, the whole deal... There were half a dozen policia picking off returning Americans.
What upset me the most is when they went for my wallet first, and started counting what monies I had in it. They spent more time in my wallet than with me. If I had a kilo of coke in my drawers, they never would have found it, really.
Initially, one policia asked if I spoke Spanish, and told him I did not. Of course, I understood every fkng word they said. During the pathetic pat down, and money count of my wallet, one asked the other "quanto." The other replied "45." Yes, that was what I had in my wallet!
I was soon released after the count was revealed. Suppose, it was not enough money for them. In addition, I did not have any suspect contraband (Cialis, heroine, Chiclets, etc...).
Talking to one of my favorite chicas in AB, she stated that business has been weak this year, in comparison to same period last year. Furthermore, from most reports, general business is down in the area. If this is the case, the policia are hungry. Be careful!
Nothing further unusual to report. Hit my regular spots in the district. The same O.
Phordphan,
The restraunt you mentioned, I believe is called La Especial, I have been going to this establishement since the early 60's as a kid, with my pops.
They also have a taco stand at the top of the stairs called by the same name very good food as far as I am concerned. As usual make sure you order with bottled water or soda.
Happy hunting
P.S. I would like to comment about the corruption of the Policia, but this is not any better or any worse than it has been for the last 30 years, it is just more noticeable because of forums and websites as this one. Just my 2 cents worth.
[QUOTE=Amerioca]Just got back from TJ this morning. Please use CAUTION when returning home. I was searched by two policia in front of the taxi drop-off area, by the pedestrian overpass.[/QUOTE]
What time this happened to you?
You said Morning, is this mean very early like 4-7 am?