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I'm a frequent visitor to Macau and drop into Zhuhai every now and then for the non-sex type massage at the big shopping centre just as you exit customs on the China side.
Can anyone recommend a nice, safe, sex joint, preferably sauna style?
Name of the place in phonetic Chinese, and details would be appreciated. I would prefer places very close to the customs area.
cc
CC1,
I did read a article on Zhu Hai, but don't quite remember what the arrangements are, but I will ask my 'friend' about the scene there.
CC1024
CC1:
I stayed at the Grand Bay View Hotel in May and the action there was pretty good. They have a massage place inside but it seemed expensive. The club located in the hotel had some hotties in there but I'm not sure of the price. I picked up a girl in the lobby but she was expensive also. Paid 1000 RMB for about 1 hour (1 shot). Was cute and acceptable service but more than I normally pay in China. In general, Macau is better with selection, price, and quality. If you don't mind the price, the Grand Bay View is a good place.
cc1
I think there is a very good report by CS on Zhuhai in the archive section under S China. I think he mentioned Bu Bu Gao Hotel, the 2nd floor has a coffee house where you can pick up. Have not been there myself as I didn't know. I usually pick up at Lian Hua Lu, outsaide Bu Bu Gao.
Just returned from my 2 week visit to Zhuhai. Visited Bu Bu Gao as suggested by CS. This place was awesome! I arrived the hotel around noon and went to the cafe upstairs. Within 10 minutes I was approached by 2 very attractive babes. (18-20 yrs old) We negotiated for a while and was able to get both girls for $400 RMB each. I took them back to my hotel and handed a shopping bag to one of the gals and the other one was holding my briefcase. This is a good way to "hide them" from the front desk. No one even looked at them once. When we got to the room, we took a shower together and got busy. The girls left about 2 hrs later. Overall, it was a good experience. The prices were really good...about 50% less than what I usually pay.
I went back there the second time. It was around 10:00 pm, no one was there! I sat around till 11:00 PM and 1 gal showed up, but she was butt ugly. She kept looking at me, and I got uncomfortable and left. I think the best time to go there is from noon to 8 PM.
Does anyone have other good places to share in Zhuhai? I've noticed a lot of new foot massage parlors opening in Zhuhai, but didn't get a chance to visit them this time. Does anyone have any details to share? Can you get full service at those establishment? If so, how much do they cost?
The prices seems so high. Maybe supply and demand. Just about everything else is less expensive in Shenzhen so why the high price of the hobby?
Both Grand View Hotel and Holiday Inn Massage will give you almost complimentary hand jobs if you book a 2 hour massage. The massage place at the holiday inn is worth a visit, even without the sex.
After much negotiation with my company, I'm now living in Zhuhai. I think I'm in heaven. Zhuhai is such a beautiful city. The girls are everywhere. My favorite hangout is around Gong-Bei area. The girls usually hang out around the hotels. The going rate is around $250-$300 RMB for 2-3 hrs. Have fun hunting.
Hi Zhuhai_guy,
Man, it does look like you are having fun over there.
I am planning on visiting ZhuHai next week for a few days.
What is a reasonable (price and cleanliness wise) hotel to stay at? Should I book the hotel on the Internet or just walk in?
Thanks for your help.
CG
Hi CaryGrant,
It depends on what kind of enviroment you like to stay at. I personally like Harbour View Hotel http://www.zenithhotels.com/harbourview/reservation.html
You can book it online. It's a 5 star hotel and the rates are extremely low. About $50-60 U.S. Same as most of 5 star hotels in Zhuhai, if you go outside of the hotel, (After 7-8) and walk along the side walk, you will be apprached by many cute girls. Pick the one(s) you like and bring them back to your room. They're a little pricier than the Gong-Bei area. About $300-$400 RMB , but its negotiable. I usually get it for $300. The bad thing about Harbour View Hotel is that there's nothing around that place, you will have to take the taxi to go to Gong-Bei.
Keep in touch!
Thanks zhuhai_guy !!
Excellent, you're the man.
Will let you know how it goes.
CG
Now that I'm living in Zhuhai, I need some help finding a nice clean sauna/salon/massage parlor type places that offers extra or full service.
I know where to go for the street and hotel actions. But, renting a room for few hrs at a time can be costly for my new hobby! Please send me details and I'll be sure to share my experience with everyone here.
My email address is [email]zhuhai_guy@yahoo.com[/email]
Thanks!
to all:
I checked into my hotel at about 11:00 am, while I was checking in, I saw 8-9 Taiwanese came down with their overnight girlfriends. It seem to be a very relaxed hotel regarding overnight guests. The room was huge and very clean, better than most Hilton I have stayed before.
After I checked in, I went to the famouse Lian Hua Lu to see what is going on. Lian Hua Lu is about 15 blocks long and in the mid section, there were about 100-120 street girls walking back and forth looking for business. The standard charges is 200 RMB for an hour. I made an eye contact with this girl and asked her to see if she does everthing for 200, she agreed and we went back to my hotel room. We took shower together and she washed my little brother very well. When we are in bed she gave me an BBBJ and then proceed to the FS. Overall was good. I checked her ID afterward and she was only 17.
After I sent her out, I rested for an hour and went back to the street to get my hair washed and dinner. Before I can do either of those, I was approched by this notheastern Chinese girl about 5 foot 5, skinny and a perky tits. She ask me to take her back to my hotel room and I told her I have to eat dinner first. She accompany me to a seafood restaurant but she didn't eat at all. After dinner, we went back to my room and the same routine was on. She was a moaner. Again I sent her home after about an hour of pure joy. I did asked herto stay overnight but she said that will cost me another 1000 RMB. I tried to negotiate down to 500 but no deal.
After she left, I was feeling a bit tired, after 3 load releasein 16 hours( one in Macao sauna), I needed a massage, so I called the hotel sauna to see if they have a massage girl they can sent up to my room for a real non-sexual massage. They said yes, it will be 198 RMB for 90 minutes. I agreed to the price and ask them to sent one ASAP. I went ahead and took a shower. before I canfinishe washingmyself, the bell rang, I step out of the shower to open the door, with a towel aroundmy waist of course. She was about 5'3", 95 LB, 34B-24-33. 23 years old. I asked her to come in and wait for me. She asked if I needed help to shower, I said no, but I knew I was going to get more than a massage. After I dried myself I went laid on the bed face down but butt naked. She gave me a very good proffesional massage. After I turn over, I couldn't resist caressing her body and started to undress her. SHe didn't resist. Very soon we were making love in 3 different positions. After the whole thing, she asked for 300RMB tips. I know itmight bea bit high for this part of the country but I gave it to her anyway because I liked her. I asked her if she can stay with me the whole night but she said no because she has to work till 6 AM. I didn't insist. 10 minutes later my phone rang, It was her again, she asked me if I was serious about having her company for the whole night, I said yes. She said ok, she will come down and stay with me. I asked her how much is she going to charge me. She said nothing, but she willhave to pay the establishment 100 RMB for leaving early. I said I willtake care of that for her. 5 minues later she show up in my room. We had 4 more intense love making sessions by 9 AM. We slept for about 5 hours total. She accompany me to breakfast and we checked out of the hotel and went to the bus station. Over all, this was a very good and inexpensive experience for me. I can't wait to come back to Zhu Hai again.
NOTE: Be sure to have your own condom as the girl never carrys them, because they don't wantto get caught by Gong AN with condom.
Sweetkisser
Sweet
What hotel did you stay at?
I am re-locating to China next February and need some advice. For business purposes, I will need to frequently travel to Hong Kong, Guan Zhou, Shanghai and Beijing. I don't want to live in any of those places and am trying to get more information about Zhu Hai.
Does anyone know:
1. Travel time and method to Hong Kong (I understand there is a boat service).
2. Travel time by train to Guan Zhou?
3. I know Zhu Hai has an airport, so I assume there will be flights to Shanghai and Beijing (sorry, I'm a real novive to China).
Lastly,
1. How hard is it to find quality housing in Zhu Hai and what is the price range for a 2-bedroom flight or small house?
2. For my first visit I need a hotel in the center of the action. If anyone can give more detials about the Boo Boo Gao or Bo Bo Gao hotel (where is it, how to contact them for a reservaton) that would be great.
I'll post my experiences as soon as I have some. Thanks.
Does anyone know how far is Guan Zhou from Zhu Hai. I will be in Guan Zhou in December 6 and would like to check out Zhu Hai if possible. If anyone knows what's the best way and how long does it take to get there???? Please help. thanks
to Manonsanboy:
I stayed at the Jun DeHui Hotelalso knowas Richmond Club, 86-756-8155558
If you call the hotel directly you will get a rate of 480 RMB per night. Go through a travel agent at the border, bus station or train station. Rate should be no more than RMB 350 per night. they also tells you that the rate is for doble room, room with 2 twin bed. Talk to the receptionist andshewillgive you room with one king.
To Asian Pimp
From Guangzhou to Zhuhai is about 2 hour by bus. There are big, nice, new, and clean bus go between the 2 cities for 55RMB each oneway. They all leaves from the Gongbei area in Zhuhai.
To dannymex:
From Zhuhai, there is hydrojet to go to Kowlong,but the frequency is too far apart. I perfer to go through Macau. HydroJet are on every 15 to 30 minutes(24 hours a day) so you don't have to wait to long but rememberthe border between China and Macao is only openfrom 7:30 AM till midnight.
Best way to go between Zhui Hai and Guangzhou is bus. Travel times 2 hours.
Zhuhai has an airport anddoeshas flight to Beijing and Shanghai.
if you can't get on, you can alway catch a bus to Shengzen (1 1/2 hours away) Airfare is cheaper from Shengzen toBeijing and Shanghai, you will save about 800-900 RMB roundtrip.
A nice 2 bedroom apartment is about 3000-4500 RMB per month furnished.
Bubugao Hotel. It's in the center of the action about 220 RMB per night. But rooms is like a HoJo or Days INN.not my style. Stay at Ying Du, there are always working girl on the lobby coffee shop.
Sweetkisser
Sweetkisser,
Your reply is extremely helpful. Three more questions I hope you can answer:
1. What is the estimated travel time from an apartment in central Zhu Hai to downtown Hong Kong via Macao?
2. Same question, but direct from Zhu Hai assuming I catch the infrequent boat service in Zhu Hai?
3. Any idea how to go about finding an apartment in Zhu Hai. The high end of your budget range would be fine.
Thanks so much.
To Dannymex:
travel time from downtown Zhu Hai to Hong Kong is as follow:
Down Town Zhu Hai to Gong Bei border -----------3 minutes
Crossing China and Macao Immigation ------------10-15 minutes
China-Macao border to Hydrojet Ferry terminal----5 minutes
Wait time at Ferry Terminal --------------------------5-25minutes
Hydrojet ride to Hong Kong---------------------------63 minutes
ZhuHai to Hong Kong-------- 1 hour and 10 minutes
Regarding finding an apartment in Zhu Hai, you can find an real estate agent to find it for you. They get pay by the landlord so it doesn't cost you anything. DO not pay them, if they ask you for money, they are not trustworthy.
SK
Last night around 8:30 PM. Saw bunch of street prostitutes getting busted. At least 20 girls were being put in the police bus. Be careful out there.
Do you mean Korea or Whuhai ...? Are you sure this is where you wanted to post this ? PLeasse clarify.
I'm sure he meant Zhuhai. Isn't my Nov3rd post in the China General info section prophetic? Too much talk kills the scene.
Just spent couple days in Zhu Hai. Had great fun. I was born in U.S. but speak some Cantonese/Mandarin so could get around. Met some cuties that kept sending their friends to my room day and night.
tonyacs:
Got contact numbers for the girls? Never tried Zhuhai.
Thanks.
Papadum: The number they gave me didn't work. But just go outside into the market areas and outside the hotel and they're everywhere. One cutie followed me to my hotel; chasing all the other cuties away.
Wow, photo album....? my goodness, soooo marketing oriented! There's nothin like that in the North. I like that. Thanks ZHguy
Heard so much about Bu Bu Gao so checked out the cafe on 2nd flr. To my disappointmtnet, the whole place was empty at 2 pm and 4 pm. Street action also nothing much.
Where have they gone to?
That's because big mouth newbies like zhuhai guy & sweetkisser have brought the attention of authorities to clean it up.
I was there 4 months ago(before there was any talk on this board) and stayed at Bu Bu Gao and the place was packed with young good looking cuties, sitting at the couch, standing at the driveway and lobby, inside the cafe/karaoke etc. It was very cool, and super convenient.
The streets were also alive with cuties. I cannot step out of my hotel and not get laid. But I knew better to keep my mouth shut or it will go the way of Shenzhen, Beijing, Shanghai.
But inexperienced idiots like sweetkisser and zhuhai guy didn't know the Chinese government monitors this site. Just can't contain themselves. Keep trying to prove their usefulness on this site while doing evreyone a disservice.
Let's not forget this is still a communist country.
It's never a secret that there are working girls in BuBuGao or on the street in Gongbei area. Once a while, especially when there are too many girls, the police takes action.
On the Lotus Road, almost every man (unless he is old/poor, or he's got a girl,) was approached. That's bad for the local resident. I support the police to 'clean' the street regularly.
There's always FUN in sauna/OK, or perhaps Disco.
It's no secret to locals but when info gets to Beijing then there's pressure to clean up the city. By that time even if the local authorities want you to have fun you've made their jobs more difficult.
Look who's talking. I've got 68 posts and how many have you got? I've made even more posts in the old forum when this site used another engine.
And who's this freshman guy? Probably you just use another screenname since the guy has got only 3(!) posts.
I post a lot, but I just happen to have more common sense then a blabbermouth like you.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by zhuhai_guy
[i] the goverment will clean up the street regularly, which is a good thing.
What a hypocrite.You blab about Bu Bu Gao and it's busted. You blab about Lian Hua Lu and it's busted. 2 Paradises as far as I'm concerned. There was so much action anyone who goes there can find action without your help. Now you're desperate to get some redemption and blab about going to massage parlour and it is 200rmb+200rmb. Double the price of before and I bet the girls arent as good looking as the freelancers that you got busted.
You just moved to Zhuhai largely because of all the action. Now you're ruining it. What a fool!
Go ahead and prove your usefulness.
Hi Dick! You're full of crap! What makes you think Zhuhai_guy is my only alias! Hello?!?!?! You sound like a kid.
This forum is for people to share info! Tell me if I'm wrong!
Bu Bu Gao is not busted! Lian Hua Lu is not busted! (I was just there last night!) The Zhuhai goverment is just doing their routine clean up! This goes for every major city in China before the end of year. And by the way, I was not the first person to post about Bu Bu Gao. Just read the archives section okay?
By the way, you don't even live here, what do you know?
What scene did I ruin for you? Steet walker scene? If so, that's just too bad! Because I can find an A+ gal anytime.
So, you are telling everyone not to post any info what so ever! If that's the case, what are you doing in this forum? Telling other people not to post?
Just grow up! The fact you talked about having 68 posts versus mine tells everyone here that you're the one that's looking to get some redemption.
Also, I won't post any more info on this forum anymore. Thanks to Dick. I'll just enjoy myself. Good-bye everyone!
YOU KNOW I'm right that's why you stop posting.
(And who gives a shit about your other alias)
That's right! Who give's a shit about how many posts you have! (I can go around the board and tell people to stop posting useful information like what you did ......and yeah, I might increase my number of posts to 500! WOW!) Stupid kid! Just shut up and stop wasting other people's time on this board. The reason I won't write anymore is because of stupid ass like you making my time worthless.
Dick Johnson and zhuhai_guy
Could you guys please call a truce? The rest of us appreciate all the information we can get. The fact that the authorities MAY read this board (and who has definitive proof of that?) does not seemed to have ended prostitution in China (which, I understand has more prostitutes that any othe country on earth).
zhuhai_guy, you SHOULDN'T stop posting, if you have something worthwhile to say. DJ, you SHOULDN'T attack your fellow poster, unless he DOESN'T have something worthwhile to say.
Let's try and be civil and see if we can keep the whole thing constructive and informative.
Sorry for my rambling...
Hey guys!!!
I'm going to ZhuHai end of the month. and looking forward for some action. but...
what if I got in to troble with police? what would happen to me? I am australia passport holder.
anyone knows about what to do in such situation?
tha
If in trouble with the police...
1. Show remorse
2. Suggest a fine
DayNight, are you making that up? Because I've never heard of police arresting Johns or accepting bribes in such cases.
it's one thing to 'suggest' a fine and another thing to bribe
well they are the same thing but if you bring it up first
then sometimes you can get away with it
I know people that got caught during crackdowns,
got a night in jail and paid 1000 fine and walked away
This section has been pretty quite for a while. I will be in
Zhu Hai in early February (first time) and would appreciate an update on the scene. New hotel recommendations where the girl can stay all night are greatly appreciated.
dannymex, I see you are going to be there in early Feb. If you have any flexibility in changing your schedule, you should. You are arriving on Chinese New Year. Things get very dead around this, their biggest holiday of the year. Many of the girls will go home and won't be back for weeks.
I'm not saying you won't find anything, but it has all the markings of slim-pickings.
Dannymex
You are mad to try to get any action around lunar new year. The police has a annual crackdown, convenient as it coincides with the girls going back to their provinces. Happens almost every year. I'd avoid the place for at least 2 weeks after lunar new year.
I'll be in ZhuHai the weekend after New Year's, but I'm not sure where to stay. I usually go directly to DongGuan because I know all the great places there. But, this time I'm going to spend at least one night in ZhuHai first. Which nice hotel (4 or 5 stars) is located in the center of the action? Which saunas and KTVs are best, and what are the normal costs?
Thanks for the info, bros. If I find anything new that I haven't seen in this thread, I'll let you know.
I was in ZhuHai last week for one night. It was less than impressive, although we had a decent time. The street action on Lien Hua Lu was active, so it appears the annual crackdown is over.
My friend and I spent the afternoon at a local sauna (next to the water) chatting up the girls. They didn't offer FS at this particular sauna, but these girls were begging us to take them out partying that night. They were cute and we were tempted to hook up with them, but since we'd just arrived we didn't want to commit ourselves so quickly. It turns out they probably would have been more fun than anything we saw elsewhere... and the price would definitely have been right. You just can't beat free, can you?
We also got a massage from some very cute girls in the YinDo Hotel Health Club. We each had a private room with jacuzzi tub and sauna. The cost was RMB338 since we were hotel guests. It's RMB300 more for FS. The girl I had was pretty good looking with a great set of tits. And, she seemed pretty excited to get things started. But, it became clear very soon that she was all talk and no action. She was quick to remove her clothes and shower together, but then it got bad. While giving me a massage, she was more interested in watching TV and taking phone calls. Even while we were doing the dirty, she was just going through the motions. Finally, I told her I was tired of her attitude and I was leaving. Then, suddenly she was all hands and smiles. She was just worried I would complain to the manager about her. Instead, I just left.
My friend had a much better experience, and his girl was a wild one. So, I guess it was just luck of the draw as it always is at saunas.
We also paid a quick visit to the BoBoGao Hotel coffee shop since so many of the brothers have recommended it in the past. I can now officially declare that it is dead! There were only about five guys there and zero girls during the hour we hung out from 8-9pm.
We also visited a few of the discos, but not much happening there. Some of the girls were alright, but not worth listening to the head-banging music all night to get them.
As we headed back to the YinDo Hotel around 1am, a very hot girl slipped her arm along mine and asked if she could go with me. I told her I was tired, and I would only take her upstairs for a massage. She agreed to do that for RMB50! As soon as we entered my room, she ripped off her clothes and ran into the bathroom to shower. She was genuinely excited to be there. We had a fantastic night of sex, and she stayed until about 7am. I asked her how much she wanted for the night, and she shrugged her shoulders and said, "Whatever." Now, that's my kind of girl. I gave her RMB500 and walked her to a taxi. She was all smiles and acted more like a GF than any girl I'd seen in a long time in South China. Too bad it was such a quickie; I'd like to see her again.
Continuing my trip through the Pearl River Delta (Other reports in Shenzen and Hong Kong) from the world’s most under-sexed city per capita: Hangzhou.
Traveled via ferry from Hong Kong Island to Zhuhai. Very easy trip and ride into town from the terminal.
As with my other arrivals, I arrived late and was only looking to scope out the scene. That idea lasted as long as the first block.
Walked from the Bubugao (English name is Popoko Hotel) to Lian Hua Lu. Before I could turn left I was approached by a very cute girl who motioned to me if I was interested. Well, looking at her, yes I was, but I had just gotten there and in my extremely broken Chinese and body language, I got the idea across I had just arrived and was just looking. I continued down the street, which is quite long, with girls along much of the route.
Much has been said about going places during Chinese New Year (some of us don’t have the choice). I did not notice any crack down occurring in Shenzen, Hong Kong OR Zhuhai. (Of course, this doesn’t mean there wasn’t one…I just didn’t notice anything and it didn’t hamper my enjoyment of hunting.)
If things are better AFTER New Year’s, man this place is paradise. Though the choices were limited, I still found girls I was interested in (and I’m picky) and had an excellent time.
I finish the walk and return to find something to eat. I see the same girl and again she motions to me. At this point I had to change my plans. She was just too cute. I had to do this chick. So, in broken Chinese I manage to say that I’m hungry. Some how we’re able to understand each other and decide to hook up, but first we eat, she chooses the place.
She took me to a good Chinese restaurant where she did the ordering. We manage to communicate a little with each other. (NOTE: I usually bring a Pinyin & English dictionary. Pinyin is the “romanization” of the chinese language. IF you learn how to pronounce the letters, you can have a small conversation using a word here and a word there.) Not much, but at least we don’t just sit there staring at each other all the time.
After dinner, we go to the hotel, take a shower together and do the deed. She was sweet looking, interested in sex and felt great and was completely non-rushed. Dinner was from 7-8 and she stayed in my hotel until about 10:30. I didn’t negotiate well, so I ended up paying 400 RMB. I know…I know!!
Next night, returning from Macua (as a tourist), I’m a bit tired and just want to get some food and rest. OF COURSE, I walk Lian Hua on my way back and this girl latches on to me. Didn’t appear to be much of a looker, so I decline. This girl does NOT give up. I say “Bu Yao” all the way down the street (no, no ,no, no , no no, no). Again, I motion I am going to eat. She follows me to the restaurant (well, McDonalds) where I finally back down, buy her dinner and talk (if you can call it that), all the time saying in CHinese: “you, me, no! you, me,today, no (motioning sex with my hands).”
As we try to talk, this girl is actually kinda cool. And as I look closer, she actually looks like she might have a nice little body under those clothes. As we walk back to my hotel (yes, she is STILL following me), what the heck, I finally say (in Chinese), “OK, you, me…how long?” By motioning at my watch, we agree “all night.” Not thinking she would say yes, I then say, “OK, 200 RMB.” She basically stays silent, motioning let’s go. NO I learned my lesson in Shenzen (you can read my report there). I will not go without an understanding of how much. I say in Chinese “200 or no” over and over again. I make her say it back to me, she says “200 yuan.” OK, let’s go.
After that scene, everything was cool AND MAN WAS I GLAD I TOOK THIS GIRL HOME!!! Her body was tight and athletic, just like I love em. We take the shower and we’re doing it for at least 20 minutes. She’s really into it. We go to bed and a couple of hours later while feeling each other out most of the time, she grabs my hand and places it on her pussy. OH, MAN!! It’s wet. I’m workin’ on getting her off, when she motions she wants me to go downstairs. OH, MAN! I motion the 69 position and we go at it. Now I NEVER do this, but something got into me (or should I say into her). While she gave me a bbbj, I went at her like a full course meal. No protection. Very stupid I know.
Though there are NO GUARANTEES, 2 things made me take the chance: one, she was very young, and two, this girl was as clean as a whistle. That hole was in “perfect” condition. And with that body, there was nothing stopping me. I finished off with a 2nd pop as we continued to feel each other out thru the night.
Guys, think before-hand what you WILL do and what you WILL NOT do and stick to it, ‘cause when you’re in the heat of the moment, there’s NO thinking straight. I still can’t believe I did it, but it WAS great.
In the morning, as she was about to leave, I felt guilty. The night was so great, I thought I must give the girl more $. Before I finish the thought, she says 500RMB. “Excuse Me? 500. This is already too long, so to make it short, I said “last night, 200, last night 200” She gave her pouty, unhappy look. Tough. She knew the agreement. I gave her 300 and we parted a little unhappily. SO what. It made up for the night before when I paid 400 for 1 pop.
The last night, I did the same girl I did the first night. 1 pop, this time for 350. Went back home after a great run through Shenzen, Hong Kong and Zhuhai. Things are much more open and free down south as opposed to Hangzhou. I regret I had to leave.
Again, though it was CNY, still had a great time. Hope to go back sometime, when it isn’t CNY. If it gets better than this, I might not be able to handle the JOY!!!
ILL EAGLE.
Gentlemen...
This forum has been quiet!
Anyway, I'm keen to give ZH a try.
Few questions...
1. Where can I get a bi-lingual map of Zhuhai, preferably one I can just print out from the Internet covering the main action areas?
2. Tips on where to go for:
o Sauna action
o ST action.
3. Good, relatively cheap hotel close to the action and prices.
4. Pitfalls, and what to look out for.
5. A recent update to authenticate that what has been written in this section is still valid.
6. Bit of info on the Popoko Hotel and whats available there.
7. How close is the main action to the Gongbei Customs area?
As always, I'll be happy to post my experiences.
cc
I am going here next week. I have the same questions as the previous post. Someone please help.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by gaolei
[i]I am going here next week. I have the same questions as the previous post. Someone please help. [/i][/QUOTE]
GL, If you are staying at the Holiday Inn. Go down to the Hot Spot bar in the hotel and see if you can hook up with the bartender. His name is David.
His English is limited but you should be able to get him to help you out. He took me out one night (yes, I took up the tab) and we had a ball.
CG
A QUOTE Originally posted by cc1 and edited for brevity:
1. Where can I get a bi-lingual map of Zhuhai, preferably one I can just print out from the Internet covering the main action areas?
[T] I think there's a guide on ctrip that may help. I've not seen a decent looking map of Zhuhai around at all.
http://english.ctrip.com/Destinations/DistrictIntroduction.asp?District=27
2. Tips on where to go for:
o Sauna action
[T] There's several sauna places to go and they are all clustered around Lian hua Road. A couple to check out are Bubugao Hotel (which I hear is excellent but have never gone to) and Yindu Hotel (which I recommend highly from personal experience).
o ST action.
[T] Lianhua Road is where the heart of the ST action is. It stretches from the customs to Macau (Gongbei) up northwards for about 500m and the entire stretch is a shopping district. Plenty of STs along the street too (mostly clustered at the north end of the street)
3. Good, relatively cheap hotel close to the action and prices.
[T] www.ctrip.com will give you an indication of decent prices.
4. Pitfalls, and what to look out for.
[T] Never never follow touts. I personally don't trust SW either, so it pays to exercise caution.
5. A recent update to authenticate that what has been written in this section is still valid.
[T] Virtually all of it is valid to my knowledge and extremely good infomation.
6. Bit of info on the Popoko Hotel and whats available there.
[T] The previous posts are pretty specific (sorry I'm running a little out of time, I'll get something a little more specific in a day or 2).
7. How close is the main action to the Gongbei Customs area?
[T] Just 100m away from the customs.
As always, I'll be happy to post my experiences.
[T] Good luck and happy hunting.
hong kong to zhuhai
from the holiday inn in hk it is a 5 min taxi ride to the ferry service at tst. go to the second floor, ticketing area. there was no pinyin or english that said zhuhai ferry, so you may have to ask. it cost 160 hkd for the 1 hour and 15 min trip on a high speed catamaran.
i checked into the holiday inn. it is 4 stars, all new, and with great big rooms. the internet price is 564 rmb. they gave me a card for a free beer every night after 8pm in the hot spot pub. i will check it out tonight.
more later as things progress
Traxx
Thanks for your help... I am a frequenter of the Macau and HK scene but I can sneek across to Zhuhai whenever I'm in Macau. But as I am totally unfamiliar with the area, I need all the help I can get.
Insofar as saunas (which is what I prefer - at least because they tend to be safer than the barber shops until I get familiar with the area) what are the prices? And how far is the walk from the customs area to the Yindu and Boboko hotels respectively?
cc1
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cc1
[i]Traxx
Thanks for your help.I am a frequenter of the Macau and HK scene but I can sneek across to Zhuhai whenever I'm in Macau. But as I am totally unfamiliar with the area, I need all the help I can get.
Insofar as saunas (which is what I prefer - at least because they tend to be safer than the barber shops until I get familiar with the area) what are the prices? And how far is the walk from the customs area to the Yindu and Boboko hotels respectively?
cc1 [/i][/QUOTE]When you exit the customs, you'll be standing facing north. Walk past the esplanade outside the customs exit and you'll see a main road heading northwards (there's also a road in the east-west direction that intersects with this road at a T junction). Follow this road northwards past 2 junctions (first junction being a Vanke shopping mall, and the second being the duty free shopping mall) and at the third junction (about 700m) you'll see a tall (relatively, by local standards and in comparison to the surrounding area) dark grey/black building with a bank of china branch at the annex (that's Yindu hotel). The sauna is on the 3rd floor I think.
At that junction, if you head eastwards (that's a right turn), Bubugao hotel is at the 2nd junction (about 500m). It's a short brown angular building.
Good luck!
cc1
There are sauna in both Yindu & Bubugao hotel. The one in Yindu charges approx. RMB250 (incl HJ). The one in Bubugao charges RMB88 (not sure if HJ incl). Get this information on Macau newspaper. The FS will charge you RMB200 (market price). There are few hotels along the road from Yindu to Bubugao. All have sauna. The price varies from RMB 88 to RMB 198.
At Yindu, heading to the tunnel, you will find two hotels. One is Wah Quao Hotel(not sure about the name, as I am Chinese and don't need to remember it's name in English). Just one block away from Yindu. The sauna charge RMB 198. The other one is Richmond Hotel. Just behind the Wah Quao Hotel (in inner street). Charges RMB108. HJ incl in both cases.
Well the Hot Spot bar in the Holliday Inn is a waste of time. The beer is cheap 10 RMB and the little old singer is a nice lady, but there is no one else here.
Saturday night a few girls came in to the bar, but it is hard to breakoff a conversation with the singer to go ask two obvious hookers for a BJ.
The area around the Holiday Inn is nearly void of opportunities. It is at the sleepy end of town. I went into a bar complex at the entrance of the Zhuhai hotel, because from the ourside they had that sleezy buy-me drink-girl-place look. One named the Show bar was just that. They have singers and dancers behind a bar where girls sit and play dice for drinks. There were no free girls in the place. There are no sw girls in the area either.
The Holiday has a Sauna owned by a Macau company, but the sauna scene is not my thing. I didn't try it.
I discovered one important thing after returning to the hotel with my shoes full of water Saturday night. It rains a lot here. If you like to walk around and explore like I do, buy an umbrella.
After a week at the Holiday inn, I moved to the Guangdong Regency (the GD).
The scene here is completely different. The hotel is a twin tower hotel. The east wing is the office, restaurant, club and room wing. The west wing is the appartment wing. Rooms cost about 500 RMB for a one bedroom apartment with a kitchen and TV in both rooms.
Between the two wings there is a crowd of 2 to 20 SWs from 3 PM to late night. Crossing between the wings at 5 pm, I was propositioned 3 times. Unfortunately they only speak Chinese, so negotiations can easily go bad.
I have been into three bars and no girls are for hire. If you are looking for the Sauna scene, you can't miss here. every hotel has one and there are signs everywhere for saunas. Not small discrete signs, but neon signs that cover the side of the buildings. They also have girls in gowns outside to bring you in.
There are many night clubs. I went into one and it was all men watching a show. I turned around and left.
Does anone have any information on the bar scene here?
GL,
If you are still in ZH and have not yet visited the disco "yesterday", then you really should. If you are a Caucasian, you are almost guaranteed 100% success there. Yesterday is an Egyptian pyramid shape building there near GongBei. I do not know the Chinese name of the place, but most hotel concierge can tell the cab driver where to take you. When you are in Yesterday, understand that there are 2 disco inside the place. The outer disco and inner discos. As you walk in to the main disco, walk straight back, down a hallway to the left, then there is another, smaller, disco. This is where all the honeys hang out.
I have been there only 3 times, but have gotten lucky every time. Oh, and the phone numbers I have collected from there. BTW, that little O' lady that signs in Hot Spots, her name is Mary Beth. I went with her there to Yesterday one time and she introduced me to all her young lady friends. What can I say, I did not sleep much the following 2 nights.
Good luck.
CG
Yes, I know Mary Beth. What a sweet lady! She took me shopping for DVDs last Sunday.
I will try to check out Yesterdays when I get a free minute. I am working here, so there is not much free time.
Thursday night in front of the GD Hotel there were about 30 girls working the street. One followed me into the East tower of the hotel and shouting "wu pay nei" in the lobby in front of everyone. I got her to leave, but she hung out in front looking in the window, waiting for me to leave. I moved toward the door and so did she, so I went into the mens room for a few minutes and she was gone. She was not that good looking, but 4 stars for perserverence.
I don't know why Thursday is so special. Maybe their cell phone bills are due. Tonight there are just a few girls.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gaolei
[i] One followed me into the East tower of the hotel and shouting "wu pay nei" in the lobby in front of everyone.[/i][/QUOTE]
What she was saying was "Wo pei ni!" Word for word this translates as: "I accompany you."
Thanks for the translation. My Chinese is somewhat limited.
I was handed a bunch of cards on the street near the hotel for girls providing various services. Most have pictures of a girl, probably not the actural one. The phone numbers are:
13085805126
13680356508
13923377149
13676066669
13676078439 Pinyin on her card: Kang Fu An Mo Zhong Cin.
Not being fluent in Chinese, these are a waste of space to me, but maybe others could investigate.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gaolei
[i] Pinyin on her card: Kang Fu An Mo Zhong Cin.
[/i][/QUOTE]
That means: Kangfu Massage Center
Walked around LianHua Lu road yesterday afternoon and didn't see much girls compared to my last trip but I did get many people giving my cards with cel phone. Hope things get better.
Zhuhai update/confirmation
Y'all are missing the boat here....by my account, Zhuhai looks like candyland. About midnight, I went out walking tonight in the area along Yuehai E. Rd and Lianhua Rd. Saw over 50 streetwalkers in 20 minutes. Quality ranged from 4 to 7. Stopped and talked to a group of 3 girls. One was a 6-7 face and 7+ body. She offered 800 all night or 300 one shot/hour (clearly they turn multiple tricks per night). I hmmed and hawwed just for negotiation purposes then said I wasn't interested and started to walk away. Took 3 or 4 steps when she offered 200 per shot/hour. Being too tired to enjoy it tonight, I kept walking.
Think about it though....200 for in-room service at your hotel. That's roughly the same as what you would pay for an hour in a barbershop in Shenzhen. I would guess quality would be a bit higher earlier in the evening. I also noticed higher quality near the doors of the Guangdong Regency Hotel (which I'm told by a local friend is well known for it's KTV girls).
Zhu Hai can be a dangerous place for the next few days or weeks !!
Just read from the internet that there was a big issue with a large group of Japanese tourist ( 200 - 400 men ) spend 3 days in a hotel with over 500 Chinese prostitutes. The local media found out and published a news story on this. The Japanese men would each have 2 to 3 ladies for the whole night, spending about 1,200 to 1,400 rmb on each girl.
The whole China is outraged at this incident, especially it happened on the anniversary date when Japanese invaded China back in 1931. Date was Sept 18, 1931.
China central government is cracking down on Zhu Hai now, the hotel is shut down. So fellas should beware of this and not do too much mongering in this area. I expect police will clean house and clean street in ZH.
If anyone is there now. would love to hear your eyewitness report on the street scene.
mpfslover
Haven't had time to post in a while, but I'll be adding some posts soon.
Anyway, saw this on the internet and wondered...HOW DO I GET AN INVITE TO THE NEXT ONE???!
news:
Tourists accused of three-day China orgy
Mon Sep 29, 2:50 AM ET
By Juliana Liu
BEIJING (Reuters) - Hundreds of Japanese tourists and local prostitutes held a three-day orgy at a luxury hotel in southern China, newspapers say, sparking outrage and prompting police to launch an investigation.
The five-star hotel where the orgy was reported to have been held earlier this month has been closed pending investigations, a spokeswoman for the Guangdong Provincial Public Security Bureau told Reuters.
"We are conducting an investigation into the case to find out whether media reports tally with reality," she said. "We have suspended the business of Zhuhai International Convention Centre Hotel."
The official People's Daily newspaper said more than 400 Japanese tourists were serviced by some 500 prostitutes from the coastal cities of Zhuhai and Shenzhen during their stay from September 16 to 18.
Media reports of the orgy have provoked outrage -- particularly on the Internet, where Chinese Web surfers accused the tourists of choosing the date for their high jinks to humiliate China and celebrate Japan's wartime behaviour.
September 18 marks the anniversary of Japan's occupation of northeastern China of 1931 -- an event remembered by many Chinese who still harbour deep resentment of Tokyo's military past.
"It's a trivial matter for Chinese prostitutes to sell sex, but the key is to look at the intentions of the Japanese devils," said a message on the www.sina.com.cn web site. "They came on purpose for September 18."
Other messages described the orgy as a national shame.
The People's Daily said the tourists paid the prostitutes between 1,200 to 1,800 yuan (85-130 pounds) a night.
Although technically illegal, prostitution has become common in China since the country's economic reforms began more than 20 years ago.
Expensive hotels catering to foreigners are notorious gathering spots for sex workers.
Gaolei
Kang Fu means recovery like to recover health. A normal Kang Fu center would have a health massage, maybe accupuncture and traditional doctor. Somehow I think if she is handing out cards, she might be offering some additional services.
tz
Regarding the big Japanese orgy, this is not what I needed before my next trip to China.
I woke up, stumbled towards my coffee, as usual. My wife is watching FujiTV news like we do every morning and says "I have something to show you". As soon as I sit down for my first cup of the morning, there is detailed episode on "The Orgy". Reporters at the scene. On the streets, outside the hotel. Pics of the madams' business cards. Clips of hookers, neon lights and ads for sex. Commentaries from the anchor people.
Man, I'm not even awake yet! "Are you going to that city?" is the very next thing out of her mouth. After telling her how disgusted I am and that she should be ashamed of her people and, moreover, ashamed of herself for even thinking that I would go to a cesspool like Zhuhai, I am depressed because I know the action will probably be limited for a while.
I am also concerned that, now, there will be sweeps elsewhere in South China to save face in the midst of the public outcry about the evils of prostitution.
Do you guys think there will be fallout elsewhere because of this? In any event, scratch Zhuhai -- I will go directly from Haikou to Guangzhou.
What a way to start the day. I think it may be time for a beer already.
BTW, those dummies paid over $200 per girl. Think the tour organizer made some money? I wish the Japanese would confine their junkets to Guam and the PI's.
Mistalava
"her people" has to make a living somehow with a crowed 1,400,000,000 chinese to compete daily for food on the table. Those japanese guys sure know how to make noises wherever they go to get pussies. Hope things will get back to business as usual...no need to get all worked up over thinsg that happened over half a century ago. The asshole who broke the news and brought in the reporting camera should get his ass kicked for raking the carnal mud.
APM, her people are the Japanese. ;-)
RE: big Japanese orgy and paying too much..
I had heard this is what happend to Vancouver, Japanese sex tour group paying too much and drive the price up, lets hope Zhuhei does not suffer the same fate.
CC1024
To all,
Dear friends I had bad news for those going to China next week for the Trade Fair cause I just came back today. It seem that there is a major crack down on prostitution lately.
Last month on 19/9 a group of japanese gather about 200++ girls in Guang Dong Regency Hotel for a mass fuck. Those stupid japanese shouldn't spend their $$ stupidly. Ha ha!! Talk about great orgy!! Well it ended stirring up the local police and goverment. Most of the girls were caught pant down.
So now bad news for us. Most of the spas and massage centre do not provide girls. I had one of my worst trip in China. Hope things will turn better next couple of weeks cause I will there again.
By the way please be careful cause the police are conducting regular check in hotel rooms even in 5 stars hotel. I had mine check just before I came back but I was lucky the girl I had wasn't with me..phew!!!
IQ-180
To IQ-180:
Where in China is the crack down. Was it just Zhu Hai or just around South China like Canton, Shenzhen & Marcu. Planning to go there in Dec or March.
In regards to the prostitute orgy... the government will always do their token amount to let the people know they are cracking down on it.
Expect things to return to normal in a couple of weeks.
A friend of mine just returned from ZH. He said police are cracking down real hard. They do check up in the middle of the night knocking on hotel rooms door and waking people up to see if there are any unlawful activities in the room.
They are doing this to 3, 4 and 5 star hotel. Some of these are undercover police from the central province, outside of ZH, so they don't care about disrupting hotel business. Just want to clean house.
If they find unlawful activity, the girl get sent to education camp for 6 months. The guy may get drag into jail and have to pay fine of up to 10,000 rmb. Not sure if foreigners are exempt from going to jail.
Be careful out there, and keep low profile.
mpfslover
The police should have arrested some the Japanese for driving up the price in Zhu Hai. I'm asking this question again, has anyone heard about other areas like Marcu and Shenzhen and the city of Canton. Any crack down in these areas or business as usual.
No crack down in Macau. It is still a good place for mongering activities these days.
Guangzhou is not as open as ZH and Macau, sex-wise. So, I don't believe the govt needs to crack down much to begin with. Check the GZ board for additional information.
cheers,
mpfslover
Weelock,
Oops, just checked your post again.
You asked about SZ and not GZ. I am not sure about SZ. Check with OAH in the SZ board.
Research for the Team --- Grand Bay View Hotel
Had a brief night recently at the Grand Bay view hotel. 5 stars and a very nice room with fantastic breakfast for RMB450 or such.
It was late when I arrived, and though I wanted to take the 5 minute cab ride to central Gongbei and Lian Hua Lu to take in the current SW scene, I was too tired, and the thought of a massage sounded just like what I needed. So I went to the hotel sauna.
Listed price is 368 for 90 minutes; not cheap, but facilities are quite nice and okay if take the full-course menu of services for your money. The sauna facilities are nice and also clean; they have 3 tubs of hot, warm, and cold water, etc. I went to the massage rooms and was disappointed to see a clear glass on the doors and no curtain. My massage girl, Li Xiao Mei from Sichuan, told me she couldn't cover the window, and she didn't even want me to take off my shorts. After some playful banter, I took 'em off anyway and she started the massage with a towel over my ass.
Got some touching during the massage, which was pretty good but not great relief for my tired muscles. Toward the end she fondled my ass crack and balls pretty good. Finally I asked her if she'd come to my room when she was done working. She agreed, but said she worked till 6am and she proposed RMB1000 for 30min. Obviously some morons had spoiled her! I told her she was too expensive but not to worry, and to come up anyway. Just before I left the massage room, I convinced her to give the little man a "kiss" and when she put her bare lips on my cock, I knew this girl was going to live up to her Sichuan heritage.
So I woke up at 6am and she didn't show up....but finally as it approached 7am, as I'm getting dressed and ready to start a conf call with my office , a knock at the door! She comes in and we get to work quickly. She showers and starts a hot water BBBJ. Then my phone rings. Shit...end of party....so she finishes the BBBJ while I'm on the phone. I muted the line, handed her 200 and sent her out the door (high price I know, but that was not the situation in which to be negotiating!).
On a side note, there was a very nice comprehensive map of Zhuhai in english in the desk in my hotel room. Not that you'd need it to find action in Zhuhai....
Just came back from Zhuhai,
Lian Hua Lu is filled with SW again but not many only 15-20. They usually operates from 6pm till 2am but will disappear when a patrol car passes by. Seems the place is still at Red alert. Anyway there is always alot of great lookers around.
I tried a few but seems the price went up, RMB200 for ST and RMB800 - RMB400 for LT depending on the time and desperation. I took a young 18 girl from Hubei recently. Cute and good body, the best of all she was a virgin 4 days ago. She told me she sold her virginity to a guy here for only RMB5000. Her name was SunCe a very pretty gal you will never miss but she seem to select her customer and not very keen in doing this yet.
By the way don't go to any Spa or health centre for the time being . A complete ripped off for the time being cause the police are mostly on to them so they don't provide good working girls.
My friend got one which doesn't even took off her cloth during a ST and need to pay RMB600 for the ST and RMB200 for the spa. Stupid right.. but if you want to go for a great massage go to Xia Wan area there is a good massage centre for 2 hours at only RMB60 gool deal inclusive of foot & body massage. You can get the girl to deal outside of their working hours hihii... great deal too. I got mine for free after spending a few day at that place for the same massage girl.
IQ0-180
Still no special services at Zhuhai HC's following the crackdown caused by the Japanese tourists at the International Conference Center Hotel.
That hotel (together with Guandong Regency, a notorious place for SW's) was closed down and is scheduled to reopen later this month.
My local friends don't expect things to go back to normal until th end of the year...
Office girl freebie, and some new Zhuhai info
I was recently at a supplier's factory for a couple days. On day one was greeted by a cute girl speaking great english; she was a secretary or admin girl, and been on the job for all of 5 days. She had a great attitude and glanced at me from time to time across the table. Bored during the meeting, I would glance at her, catch her looking at me, and then wink at her. She would lick her lips (a lot) in return.
Finally during a break got outside and got her number. Started texting her during the meeting. We agreed to meet up at my hotel later that night.
She took me to Zhuhai's bar street (aptly named "Jiu Bar Jie"). I haven't seen this place mentioned here before. There is a strip of 7-10 bars here. It is walking distance from the Grand Bay View hotel. After half a bottle of beer and 20 minutes, we were kissing heavily in the table/booth in the corner of the bar. I sensed success!
Then we went to the biggest disco in Zhuhai, called "Yesterdays." We took a cab, and I don't know where it is, but not far from Gongbei area. There are 3 bars and at least 2 DJs and dance floors here. This place is a definite meat market. You can certainly pick up a chick here. We went on a Friday night. No cover charge.
Ended up in my hotel room for BBBJ, FS in all positions, and a whole lot of DATY. What a blast. She stayed all night and left in the morning to go home, change clothes, then come back to the hotel to pick us up....back in company host mode! No money changed hands. She's 25 and seems to have a past she doesn't want to talk about from a few years in Beijing where she met a lot of "bad" guys. Probably a former pro (though her BJ skills were average at best) trying to go straight and work an office job.
I plan to have another free round with her when I get back to Zhuhai.
Cheers and happy hunting.....even in business meetings! :)
A Shenzhen paper has reported the Sunday reopening of the 2 Zhuhai hotels that were closed down due to the Japanese sexual extravaganza.
Maybe things are beginning to settle down, but with CNY right around the corner, probably won't loosen up too much just yet.
Take it to the hole. Ill Eagle.
Japan Orgy Trial Opens in China Amid Tight Security
BEIJING (Reuters) - A group of 14 Chinese went on trial behind closed doors in southern China Friday accused of organising an orgy involving hundreds of Japanese tourists and local prostitutes, court officials and media said.
The scandal has sparked outrage in China, particularly on the Internet, and embarrassed Beijing and Tokyo, close trading partners that have shown signs of growing diplomatic solidarity in the face of the North Korean nuclear crisis.
Security was tight in and around Zhuhai People's Intermediate Court, with police standing by to prevent anti-Japanese protests, underlining the sensitivity of the case.
"The entire building was shut down today and will be closed again tomorrow to try this one case," a court official who declined to be identified said by telephone.
The verdict was expected Saturday.
It was unclear how the defendants, consisting mostly of suspected pimps, pleaded. But they face up to 10 years in prison if convicted of "organising prostitution."
State media have said the orgy at a five-star hotel in the coastal city of Zhuhai in Guangdong province in September involved about 400 Japanese tourists and 500 Chinese prostitutes.
It sparked fury in China as the incident ended on September 18 -- the 72nd anniversary of the start of Japan's occupation of China's northeast.
No Japanese have been indicted in the case so far, drawing angry comments on the bulletin board of Web site www.sina.com.cn.
"Why were those who went whoring not on trial?" one said.
"Chinese should unite and boycott Japanese goods," said another.
Sina's bulletin board has been flooded with more than 34,000 entries on Japan-related issues. The time period was unclear.
The Japanese Embassy in Beijing could not be reached for comment.
The 22-storey hotel was closed for about two months and reopened in early December, a hotel spokesman said.
Prostitution is technically illegal in China but has become rife in the past two decades with the launch of economic reforms.
Sina said the defendants included two executives of the Zhuhai International Conference Center Hotel, where state media says the two-day orgy took place.
Japan's top government spokesman has pledged to investigate.
The Japanese construction company whose workers were reported to have been most involved said some employees were in the hotel at the time but denied there had been an orgy.
A Chinese foreign Ministry (news - web sites) spokesman called the incident "odious," but the government is eager to avert a diplomatic fallout and has not fanned ant-Japanese sentiment.
Despite increasingly closer ties in tourism, trade and investment, antagonism toward Japan is never far below the surface in China, where millions were killed or wounded during about 14 years of often-brutal Japanese occupation.
Ordinary Chinese often find occasions to vent old gripes, such as visits by Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi to a contentious shrine for war veterans and compensation claims filed by Chinese women forced to work as sex slaves during the occupation.
Most recently, more than a million Chinese signed an online petition demanding Japan compensate victims poisoned by World War II-era chemical weapons unearthed in China. (Additional reporting by Cher Gao and Zhou Xiqin)
China orgy has an outcome!
Last Update: Wednesday, December 17, 2003. 7:02pm (AEDT)
Life terms given over China orgy
A court in southern China's Zhuhai city has sentenced two of the accused organisers of an orgy between Japanese tourists and Chinese prostitutes to life imprisonment, state media said.
Twelve other people were sentenced to between two and 15 years in jail for "organising prostitution" or "assisting the organisation of prostitution," the Xinhua news agency said.
Chinese police have also asked Interpol to issue wanted notices for three Japanese citizens involved in the case, Xinhua said, without mentioning what they are accused of doing.
One of the Japanese sought was identified by Xinhua's website as Guang Biangong, the Chinese transliteration of his name, but the other two were not named.
The Zhuhai Intermediate People's Court handed down the sentence following a two-day closed-door trial.
The orgy in September reportedly involved hundreds of Japanese tourists and Chinese prostitutes in the five-star Zhuhai International Convention Centre Hotel and whipped up an angry Chinese response.
The two people sentenced to life in prison have not been named.
However, Chinese media had earlier reported the prime organizers were Ye Xiang, the assistant to the hotel's general manager, and Liu Xuejing, manager of the hotel's marketing department.
The other defendants were all nightclubs' "mommies", or madames, who allegedly provided the prostitutes to the hotel, state media had said.
The sentencing was handed down around the traditional period when the birthday of Japanese Emperor Akihito is celebrated.
The alleged sexual soiree culminated on September 18 - the eve of the anniversary of the start of Japan's World War II occupation of China on September 18, 1931.
While prostitution is rampant in China and it is common for foreigners to either seek sex or be solicited around five-star hotels, the incident ignited a wave of anti-Japanese sentiment, with many people convinced the orgy was timed to humiliate China on the sensitive anniversary.
-- AFP
How is it there now, anyone been recently?
I was last in Zhuhai 2 weeks ago. Walking down on Lianhua Rd in the middle of the afternoon, I was propositioned twice.
Went by the BBS district with a friend and saw that they were in operation. Did not check out the health centers so I don't know if they are offering FS again.
I want to say hi and thank all the WSG Brothers here for sharing their travelling experiences in China.
I have been lurking in this forum for a long time. And I will make my first trip back to Zhu Hai, China sometime during late May. I am Chinese, but I have been living in the States for a long time (almost completely Americanized) so I am not familiar with the situation in China.
The main reason for my up coming trip in late May is to meet up a girl that my relatives had set up for me. She live in the same town as my family's origin. I have corresponding with her over the phone for about half a year already.
However, from WSG Forum, I read so much about the Northern girls in the BBBS and hotel's massage palors, I want to experience it during my upcoming trip, because I have never had the opportunity to try any Northern Girls before. And most importantly, I think some of the Northern Girls are very attractive!
Thus, I hope WSG Brother here can help me on how and where to have some fun during my trip, especially after the government crack down since the Japanese Orgy. I only have 8 days in China and I am not familar with the environment at all.
Thanks In Advance!
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I would like to ditto the "hi and thank you" all the WSGers here for sharing their travelling experiences in China. I've been a few times to ZhuHai, but never really knew my way around (too bad, as I have since found out, heh heh).
I'll be back in ZhuHai in two weeks. On this site, I saw an earlier request for a map in english. I have a map that's English and (mainly) Chinese that I have posted as a JPEG file.
I've found the BuBuGao Hotel on the map. I know a few characters. I gather this translates into BooBoo's Big Liquor Hotel, but then could be mistaken, as a little knowledge is a dangerous thing (I'll probably get myself in trouble the first time I negotiate).
I was wondering if any enterprising WSGers would be so kind as to fill in some of the other tourist sites (mongering only please) that I might enjoy on my cross-border excursions.
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Just spent couple days at Zhu Hai. First time there and my friend told me the easiest way to get girls is to walk along the street called "Lotus Flower Road" - I mean there were tons of sw that will approach you, I should say harass you to take her back to the hotel. Price is 200 YMB for quickie. There were some very good looking one and you just have to watch for them. Bring them to the hotel is no problem. If you want higher class type, then go to any KTV club - girls there cost 800 YMB overnite. I had very fun time here but not as good as Dongquong.
A quick report on the Gong-Bei area (map attached).This is the area right across from the Macau border, and many guys from Macau regularly visit (at the GongBei crossing from Macau). I stayed at the Popoko (the locals say BuBu Gao) close to the “Nightlife area” at Lian Hua Lu (Lu=Road). Lian Hua Lu is about 15 blocks long and in the mid section, there were about 100 street girls walking back and forth looking for business. They tend to aggregate at a particular corner after the stores closed, so you won’t have to walk more than a block to see everyone after about 10pm. Westerners are a bit unusual here, and you will find yourself quickly surrounded by girls, many of whom are quite attractive, most are very polite with very attractive dispositions, and that sort of knock-kneed, cross-eyed ultra-girlish charm that Chinese girls have. I love it, though many of the girls truly are inexperienced; fresh off the farm it seems. In the area are many coffee stands and a number of bars, as well as some great DVD and Hi-Fi stores (if you care about that). Further away (you’ll need a taxi) is a disco called "Yesterdays" which is the definitive meat market. I can assure you that business is alive and well in Zhuhai, and all in all, a nice, attractive city to boot, with good restaurants and nice people.
Winnerforever13:
If it's your first time to China, then you will probably be confused at first just about everything you see. But don't worry about it too much as the longer you stay the more comfortable you will feel as with any city in China. Just stay alert and pay attention to your surroundings and you will be fine in ZhuHai even without any escort.
I don't know much about ZhuHai except for the big shopping district and a nice selection of restaurants near the GongBei border crossing. But I do have one good advice for you: Try the border crossing to Macau and you will be buried in your favorite Northern girls (literally if you want) at any hot spots in Macau. Macau is a short cab ride away and offers a more standardized service than a hide and seek kind of atmosphere in ZhuHai. Try the Macau board it has more than enough information to get you started.
Good luck on your trip.
BTW, shouldn't you be with the girl you supposedly been corresponding with for over half a year already? Haha, I'm just kidding. Sort of.
Han Bali:
"Bu" means a step, and "Gao" means tall or height.
"BuBu Gao" would mean steps higher and higher (progressively higher, or better).
As for "big liquor Hotel", its just the common name for a 4-5 star hotel with a fancy restaurant and usually a bar or a ball room.
I agree with you that ZhuHai is a hospitable enclave with a pretty much homogeneous population, with excellent shopping and restaurant offerings. Not much mongering info I can offer you but looking forward to my next trip there.
HatTrick
Hat Trick: Thanks for the language tips. This'll help me to look smart next time I talk to the BuBuGao desk ;-)
I wandered over to Zhu Hai just to test out the last few posts and for my own curiosity. I had some names of legitimate massage places which were my aim.
Thanks to the maps posted earlier, Lian Fa Lu (Lotus Flower Road) was easy to find, just to the right from the Macau border crossing. Things seem to be so much cheaper than ShenZhen. If you dare, a haircut is RMB$10 (US$1.25). For another RMB$10, you get a Thai head massage with it.
I was propositioned 5 times by SW within about 10 minutes. It was slow, I guess, since it was only 4pm. However, I believe my pocket was picked by one of them when she bumped me several times. The usual ritual is to push their bodies and breasts into you sides (being much shorter than me) as the way to entice you. I had an umbrella in my right hand. This left my right pants pocket unprotected. Luckily, I had my wallet in my zippered jacket breast pocket. Beware!
The SWs were very young. I did not inquire about where they would take me but I did notice some walk-up small hotels renting rooms for an afternoon for RMB$99. Full days were RMB$199. This is probably much safer than going off with the SW to their own haunts. Just my humble (paranoid?) unsubstantiated opinion.
I ended up at a massage place and spent RMB$165 for 1 hour of manicure, pedicure and callus removal, and 2 heavenly hours of Thai massage on a big soft bed with a girl who flirted with me the whole time. She was also willing to go out with me but I had no time left in Zhu Hai.
I shall try to go back with an experienced monger.
Cheers
I wanted to post a short followup report on the GongBei area of ZhuHai (with an improved map that I acquired in ZhuHai, with English and Chinese street names). The Gong-Bei area is the area right across from the Macau border, and many guys from Macau regularly visit (at the GongBei crossing from Macau at the bottom right-hand-side of the map). I stayed at the Paradise Hill Hotel this time ($31 rooms, 5 star hotel) which is a bit north of the GongBei area. It is in a beautiful park, across from a huge modern shopping mall. Nice area of town, though the mattresses in their beds (and the PoPoKo as well) could use a bit more padding. They must have gotten a deal from one of the State factories. Took a taxi to Lotus Flower Road (Lian Hua Lu). And walked around. Lian Hua Lu runs north-south on the attached map, and the street girls were out and about walking back and forth looking for business. They seem to all work for a common boss (draw your own conclusions on whom), that they check in with periodically with their mobiles; fees are a non-negotiable 200rmb st / 1000 rmb lt (least I had no success negotiating). You need to know Chinese as well, or at least work out the body language. I found this time that you don’t need a taxi for Yesterday disco, but you will need to walk a few blocks from LianHua. It’s on the west side of YingbinNan road, between YuhaiDong road and YueHua Road. The girls there are on the prowl for Westerners, and the decibel level of the disco music makes any command of Chinese unnecessary (or useless perhaps is the better word). There are lots of other ‘discos’ and KTVs that are really oriented more towards Japanese businessmen. In fact the entire mongering scene is directed at Japanese rather than Westerners. It makes the recent raid on Japanese mongers all that more suspicious; you have to suspect that maybe it was the day they chose, since if there is discrimination concerning Japanese mongerers, it sure seems to be in their favor. My overall impression is (again) that ZhuHai is just a very attractive city.
Somehow the last map image of GonBei wasn't resized properly. Let's try this again
I wish the board had a different set of sizing options for maps and girls:
Maps: High contrast, primary colors, flat
Girls: Soft contrast, skin tones, vol-lumptuous
Yum!
Watch out for the SW in Zhu Hai. I was there with a couple of friends and we had an incident there where the SW tried to trick my friend with the sic mother routine.
At first we neg. the price for 600RMB for an all nighter to 12 next morning. Then at 4 am she received a couple of phone calls saying she had to leave and wanted 800rmb for her sic mother. Obviously I was pissed because this was my friends first time and I know the mother story was BS. Her minder came up after an hour of talking in the hotel room. They left at 6:30am with 200rmb for ST.
So watch out.
Stay happy.
Watch out for a SW who want to take you to her room. I had a friend who was robbed when he went to her room and was taking a shower..
Travelling to Doumen in a few weeks. Any information?
Cantonese or Mandirian?
Safety?
Please advice if you have knowledge.
Was in Zhuhai for the first time a few weeks back. I just remember a rough boat ride from HK and a torrential downpour! Anyway, after dinner was taken to a hotel about 15 minutes away from where i was staying.
Went through the whole sauna routine. Then instead of brining the girls out like in Macau. We were shown pictures! A little bizarre but interesting! Chose a girl from Harbin... then was shown into the room. She was about 5-4, nice face and even nicer body! She then proceeded to give me a very good body massage for an hour. After 1 hour, she asked whether i wanted a HK or FS. After a little deliberation (about 5 seconds), i went for the FS.
She then stripped off... revealing exactly what i had thought... a very nice body with firm breasts. Gave me a covered BJ and then straddled me and off we went! For the next 45 minutes, we must tried 4 or 5 positions... as the walls were pretty thin! I ams sure we were making quite a racket! Anyway, eventually she finished off by giving me a BBBJ and then came over her breasts.
Good service, unrushed, good massage... all in all, an extremely pleasant way to finish the night off! Cost was 800rmb all inclusive. Love to go back if i am in Zhuhai again. The name of the hotel escapes me... will find out!
Was in Zhuhai again last week. This time just a short overnight visit. I came in with the ferry from Shekou. For those of you that are not familiar with this transportation mode ... imagine a small tub, not sea worthy (in western eyes at least) travelling about 1 hour from Shekou to JiuZhou Gang (the Chinese name of Zhuhai port) acroos the pearl river wide wide delta, under torrential downpour and choppy sea!
Anyway, I got there around 15:00 and had my business meeting and after dinner went to the Harbour View hotel (a 5 stars hotel).
Later went out with a taxi and told the driver to go to the GD hotel area where I understand all the action is.
Immediatly as I stepped out of the taxi I was proposed, but chose to walk on and see the options.
Within 15 minutes, I was approached 10 times. It seems that Zuhai (the place and the people) forgot the mess orgy thing of last year.
I Chose a girl from Hubei who in turn pushed forward her best friend (you guesses also Hubei) and both told me the going rate is 200 each 400 total.
Not trusting the placid street feeling, I told them the hotel name, wrong room number on the same floor and asked them to follow me 10 minutes later.
On time they both came and I picked them on the 18th floor corridor, and led them into the room (by the way, a great room King Sized bed, clean) They both were 20'ish (one said 21 one said 20) and looked as if they are not street veterans.
They were very clean, and suggested shower. I inssisted on "together" and they joined me for about 15 minutes of shower play.
The two looked about -67, nice face and even nicer body! Both then proceeded to give me a very good body massage for aout half an hour.
Then they confirmed they I wanted 1 shot each .. and the funniest thing happened: one of them took her small towel and went with it to the bathroom and stayed there until the first one finished me off.
She gave me a covered BJ and then straddled me and off we went! For the next 15 minutes, we must tried 4 or 5 positions... Anyway, eventually she finished off doggie style (as I like) and it was her turn to take her towel and disappear.
The second round ended about an hour later, and they both left leaving me their phone numbers ... and asking me to call them together or one-by-one.
Good service, unrushed, good massage... all in all, an extremely pleasant way to finish the night off! Cost was 500rmb (including 50 each tip) all inclusive.
D
Transportation question:
Does anyone know if there is a DIRECT bus from Zhu Hai to Taishan (Toishan). Was told I have to go up north Canton then back down to Taishan. I waste of time to me.
Thanks
Weelock
Hi fellow Mongers!
I'm a regular here on the SZ posting. Used to SZ/DG area.
Coming to Zhuhai soon and need your advice on where to get some action. Can you advise?
Thanks
In Zhuhai, there are saunas in nearly all good hotels.
The charge is around 100+/- for 90 minutes massage, then 100- 200 as tips for the extras. (FS)
It is safe in many of them.
Charles,
Can you recommend a hotel or two...with address or directions?
Thanks.
There are some saunas in hotels just near the border with Macau, which I never go but they should be the same. (100 +200)
E.g after you exit the border control, you can find Hotels FOK HOI, LUK IP ( Jia Xia?) (pronunciation in Cantonese) on the left hand side of the main road in front of you.
I tried LUK IP a long time ago and was good. It is also on the left hand side but 1500 M away so 10 yuan taxi is ok. They had VIP room, with bath inside and was about 138 + 200.
If you know the rule, you should find the same in nearly all sunas.
The saunas listed for RMB 138 + 200 are all in local Chinese hotels. They're not bad if you are OK with that.
If you want the larger international hotels and are willing to pay more, I would recommend:
Guangdong Regency (Yue Hai)
Zhuhai Holiday Resort (NOT Holiday Inn)
Yi Jing Wan
These are more luxurious saunas. Be prepared to pay 400-500 for FS in the latter 2.
Gents,
Any good place for full service with good price near Holiday Inn?
Yes, leave the Holiday and move into the GD. The hotel is surrounded by women who will go up to your room.
If you go there get a room in the apartment side of the twin towers. You will get a real spacious room and I can tell you how to steal free internet service.
The Holiday, IMHO, is near nothing of worth and the GD is in the middle of everything, but the rooms and food are nice in the Holiday.
Was just in Zhuhai this past weekend. Went to the sauna at a local hotel called Hong Du. The sauna was a popular spot according to another board (in Chinese). But it was pretty dead. The girl told me that a "hard strike" is on-going. She didn't say why. Now that I've read the message below... may be what she said was true.
It was reported that a Japanese was robbed by following a girl to her flat and I suppose there are many unreported cases.
My advise is to go to the sauna and avoid the SW.
In my experience, Saunas in Hotels Hong Du and BO Bo Go are not good.
Remember the good ones are in more out the way places! hidden treasure
I wonder if you can get better quality by paying more in
Guangdong Regency (Yue Hai)
Zhuhai Holiday Resort (NOT Holiday Inn)
Yi Jing Wan.
Maybe it is just a matter of luck and being smart in making yr choice.
Soulman,
There is a park across the street and to the right. There is a place in the park where there is a big hotel and some small businesses on the path into the hotel. One of the businesses is a show club. It is full of locals watching the singing and dancing shows. There are also girls sitting at the bar who will play dice and drink with you, a little strange.
Anyway, this is a place for potential frebbie action. The star performer was interested in me and was sharing drinks. I left the area the next day, so I did not have time to develop the relationship. However, check it out. It's something to do in that area.
One other thing. The bar in the Holiday is mostly dead, but sometimes a few pros come in.
Gaolei,
Thanks for the tip!
Just arrived at Holiday Inn on 7/28 PM... Did go to HI bar with Filipino band but didn't see too many working girls (1 or 2 but kind a ugly and way too many hotel regulars to girls). Even went to massage place on 6th floor and just got foot massage as hte place didn't appear to offer more service.
You must be referring to KTV on 2nd floor? Do they have more informal place for single dude to play silly dice games with girl across the table? This is pretty common on many KTVs for those who can't afford the room...
Cheers
No, the place I mean is in across the street and towards the water. I think it is called the show club. Just look for the big hotel after the park on the corner and look to the left as you walk toward the hotel.
Anyway, the little women play dice, looser chugs the drink. There is also a floor show with good looking babes and women come up to you to try out their English. It looked promissing, but I moved to the GD hotel the next day.
Gaolei,
OK thanks. Yes, there is another smaller hotel woth nighclub in front of the park (on the corner).
Yeah, the amusing silly dice game with bowls or shells is something I don't get but popular in KTVs.
I'm movin onto SZ today and I know the actions very well there...
Cheers
In my opinion Lian Hua Road was by far the best place for SW in all of China. 200 RMB got you a young trained beautiful girl in your hotel room. GFE, BBBJ, many positions, no rush.
So I was disappointed last week when I saw that there was a crackdown. The police were everywhere in cars, vans and on the street. There was no street action at night. However, in the earlyt morning from about 9 am there were a small number of ladies along with their aunties. Tried two (not at once) and was pleased with the result. The girls were fresh, obviously relatively new to the job but willing to learn and please. By the afternoon they were gone.
There are still the BBS girls at 100 RMB plus 20 for the boss, but this was in the BBS and not so relaxing. Most would not do BJ.
Tired a massage place on LianHua Road. Didn't liike the girls offered. After 4 refusals, the let me look at the pictures. Chose one whose face I liked but was disappointed with her body. Got full service for 200 RMB plus 50 for 2 hour massage. I enjoyed it as I had book a 2 hour massage and she did not rush me out when I finished. I was only up for one shot so I don't know if multiple are possible.
I will post some pics later.
I wonder if anyone knows if the crackdown is still on or where all the lovely SW have gone.
Here is a lovely young girl that I enjoyed early in the morning. found her or should I say she found me and begged me to take her back to my hotel fo only 200 RMB. New to the business she was willing but not too skillful. did not like BJ but made an effort. Very nice.
The lovely JiaJia. taken in February. where is she now?
She had only started working a few weeks before. Business was slow as she said I was the 5th and the 6th) customer. The first one paid 2000 RMB for the privilege. I only paid 200. Very good technique, especially oral (better pics to come), she said that the "Ji tou" had taught her.
Massage girl from Lian Hua Road.
Just thought I would say why I miss the SW on Lian Hua Liu.
1. There is such variety.
2. The price is fixed 200 RMB for a ST. no need to even discuss. all girls appreciate a small 10 or 20 tip to buy a drink.
3. There were so many and each not very busy. they would give good service hoping for a repeat later.
4. They all gave good service.
5. It was fun to make a choice.
6. They were close to the hotel hualigong where i stay. two minutes to the corner and back to the room.
7. The girls were so fresh.
Someone tell me that the crackdown is over and I will be very happy.
The zhuhai section seems to be inactive and I am beginning to feel that I am writing to myself. I continue nonetheless.
Arrived here and after one walk along the road without seeing any SW I was feeling like heaven had been destroyed. Went to a BBS for a 20 RMB massage. After a few plesant minutes of chatting and flirting, I invite the lady to go back to the hotel. As she was new to the place she was, at first, reluctant. It did not take too much persuading. I told the boss lady that I wanted to take the girl out to eat, and paid for 2 hours-40 RMB.
Went back to the hotel and had a nice time--much better that in the back of a dirty BBS. By the way in this particular establishment you have to walk through the toilet (just one of those holes in the ground) to get to the nmassage area. If someone is using it the girl knocks on the door and asys "hurry up!" Nice freindly relaxed experience. I gave her 150 RMB as I was very impressed with her skill and enthusiam. The going rate is only 100 RMB.
There are many BBS here and having a cheap massage is a great wayto see if you can connect with the lady wihout having to first commit yourself.
Anyway, this morning there were a few young SW on the street but nowhere as many or in such numbers as before. I asked where they go at night and they say home to watch TV as it is now very stictly enforced by the police. Got a couple of telephone numbers for the night time.
Zhuhai is still a great place. doesn't anyone come here anymore?
The crack down is still in effect so there is little if any action on Lian Hua Road at night. At 9 or 10 am there are still lovely young ladies. I have never had bad service. For some reason Saturday night was different.
There are other areas with street action, but I can't tell you how to find then. One of the guys on the bicyle rickshaws can take you. Negotiate a price first. The SW are all straight but those guys need to be watched.
I also noticed that the road (I don't remember the name, but the Chang An Hotel is in it) also attracts SW.
Mark:
Don't despair. I am watching and reading.
Howver. I do not know ZH very well as opposed to SZ, HK or Macau.
Will visit in September.
Where are the BBS?
I only know LinHuaLu and BaoBaoGao Hotel and the massage in the hotel.
Any help of specific BBS's will be appreciated.
Lilojo
Calling all experienced mongers in Southern China.
I'm from the HK thread mostly, but I read on your adventures in China - daily.
Anyway, I've got a mate who's about to get married and we wanna throw a bachelors party for him.
I'm thinking of renting a big house, lots of rooms and getting a handful of girls - say one per guy. Not gangbang.. but kinda like a nightclub atmosphere but in our own place. We would probably share the girls around. Shenzhen and Zhuhai are our target areas.
Any ideas on the possibility of this working without getting our asses hauled into jail?
CC1
Lilojo,
I have found the BBS scene in Zhuhai very much of a hit and miss. It is not too bad, as the worse that can happen is that you get a massage for 20 RMB. So it would be difficult to recommend specific ones or girls (as they tend to come and go quickly). There are many in the lanes off of Lian Hua Road. They are to the right as you walk away from the border. You will notice lots of ladies sitting out front.
Have a good time. I am looking forward to raading your report.
I am getting the jist of BBS now. 10RMB bought me a loooong shampoo with a scalp massage and a blow dry. I guess another 10RMB would get me a haircut. Maybe next week.
20RMB for a massage up a narrow staircase at the back of the hair salon. I did not seeone I had to try.
I am disappointed with the food aroud the border area.
I can however report that the massage place in the PPK Hotel recently did a renovation for the superior rooms with a wet sauna for 138 RMB for 90 minutes. If you go after midnight and ask for a hotel room (hence without the sauna) you can have the hotel room for nothing until check out time the next day. Not a bad deal. Quality of the girls is marginal. I saw 8 of them and the best one was at most a 7 and I was being generous.
Not all BBS offer special services. In fact, very few around the Macau border area do. If you must go to one in the Guan kou (border) area, try the one right next to the Wu Yue Hua (Mayflower) seafood restaurant. In general, look for BBS with the red lighting outside and girls sitting around, those are the ones.
BBS that are well-light and look busy do not offer these kind of things.
If you want a cheap place to crash overnight. Just go late to any massage place, get the massage, and tell them you want the room overnight (no extra fee). It can cost you as little as 30RMB at a foot massage or 100 something at a health center. Most places are clean and safe.
Hey Gents,
I'm a regular over in SZ board.
Coming to ZH soon and will stay in Holiday Inn. Any nice place nearby (BBS, street action, etc)? Stayed there coiple of months ago and it was pretty dead around the hotel.
Thanks
The area around the Holiday Inn is very dead. I moved to the GD hotel and into the middle of the action.
To avoid any problems with guards and to avoid marching through the lobby with babe in hand, use the entrance to the amusement center in the second tower. It is also the entrance to the coffee shop in the passage over the street between the two buildings. This allows you to enter either building on the second floor!
There is not much street action left in Zhuhai as the local gov't wants to clean up the city's image. Even in the Gongbei area around the GD Regency hotel which used to be festering with SW, there is not too much going on.
The girls have moved on to health centers and KTVs. There is no lack of action there.
BTW, hotels in Zhuhai don't care about guests bringing girls to their rooms.
Gents,
Thanks for the tip. How about around Harbor View Hotel (near GD Hotel, right?)?
Lookin for BBS or SW...
Soulman,
You can try massage service on 5F of Harbor View Hotel. It's not very big and costs 388RMB for 2 hours. Last time when I was there, they gave me a notebook computer loaded with pictures of the girls. You can choose any girl you like. Kind of high-tech. The girls are in 7-8 range if you consider thoses in Darling1 of Marcau as 10's. The full service costs extra 500RMB, including BJ, FS, licking your whole body, etc. It's kind of expensive (888RMB total) but convenient. Enjoy.
Dragon Union Hotel sauna is great - 198 for the room and 300 for the gal
90 minutes of great full service
Call the manager Yan Xiao Mei, mobile 131 381 4299
Last night drove to Nanyou Hua Yuan street
many gals, some of them 8 / 9
For local man short time will cost 200 and for western 400
easy to negotiate
[QUOTE=solbre]Last night drove to Nanyou Hua Yuan street
many gals, some of them 8 / 9
For local man short time will cost 200 and for western 400
easy to negotiate[/QUOTE]
Where is this place? Is it within Gongbei District?
I met some pretty ladies on the busy shopping street called Lianhua Lu near the Guangdong Regency Hotel. I only paid 200RMB for ST and another fun gal for 300 all night. Of course, I had to patiently haggle in chinese. But that was back in february.
Let us know if you found Nanyou Hua Yuan street and please send us all a Zhuhai report.
I liked Zhuhai, it's a shame the Japanese orgy ruined it. I got lucky and had some lovely pus there.
Well that was back in Feb, many things have change since the Jap orgy case. I heard that Lian Hua Lu is almost dead with very few SW left.
I will go find this place so call Nanyou Hua Yuen and will let you guys know the exact location.
I will be going to China this December. Will pass through Macau, Zhuhai, GuangZhou & ShenZhen. Will post any latest update about Zhuhai then.
Thank you IQ-180. Maybe I will be going to Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Zhuhai in january or february. The other mongers and I would very much appreciate your reports. Hope you have fun and play safe.
Santa,
Usually working girls with take a long vacation back home especially those
who have made a fortune.
Probably selection will become slim between 3rd to 20th Feb. Personally
I think whose staying behind are having problems of different kind : Not making enough money ( due to quality ? ), try to get the most in limited time ( could be risky as well ), receiving medical treatment, etc.
Try to avoid it for your peace of kind.
My best regards,
I would like to report that the road is not dead. There are many lovely ladies available from 9 a.m. until after midnight.
The road itself is being turned into a pedestrian zone so there is a bit of construction going on. There are many nice places to sit outside when it is not too cold and have a drink on the street and watch the ladies.
The Chang An Health Centre on Lian Hua Road Number 188 also has a nice service at very reasonable rates, especially compared to Macao. 68RMB for 2 hour massage plus 200 RMB (bargain down form 300) for fire and ice plus full service. I found the girls to be attractive and have good friendly attitude.
Hey Guys,
Anyone in Zhuhai in the beginning of the week. I'll be arriving for a three days stint.
After ChangPing and Houjie, which were great, I am looking forward to what Zhuhai has to offer...
Ramsey
PS: a cutie from ChangPing
Recently stayed at the Zhuhai Conference Center...yes, that's the one they busted about a year ago for the orgy scandal. It's up and running and the sauna downstairs is absolutely hoping!
Did not go down as I got in really late so I called them to send a girl up to my room.
She was very cute...tight ass and firm tits...I like petite girls and she fit the bill. After she came in and undressed, we did the shower thing and then on to a really really long cbj...man, I am talking a long time...she then flipped me over and then did the licking and sucking thing all over my back and legs and then on the front...and then more cbj while I rubbed her clit...she got pretty wet.
By the time, we got to fucking, I was completely up and ready...very tight and flexible...managed to fucked her for quite a while in different positions and stuck a finger up her ass...she definitely came...I could feel the orgasm in her ass muscles...
Afterwards, showered again and she left...total cost RMB600...overall an awesome experience.
Hey guys,
Just arrived in Zhuhai. If anybody is in the area would love to have a beer and check out the local female population...
Ramsey
Thanks for the information. I will give it a try next time I visit ZH.
[QUOTE=Dickie Robert]Recently stayed at the Zhuhai Conference Center...yes, that's the one they busted about a year ago for the orgy scandal. It's up and running and the sauna downstairs is absolutely hoping!
Did not go down as I got in really late so I called them to send a girl up to my room.
She was very cute...tight ass and firm tits...I like petite girls and she fit the bill. After she came in and undressed, we did the shower thing and then on to a really really long cbj...man, I am talking a long time...she then flipped me over and then did the licking and sucking thing all over my back and legs and then on the front...and then more cbj while I rubbed her clit...she got pretty wet.
By the time, we got to fucking, I was completely up and ready...very tight and flexible...managed to fucked her for quite a while in different positions and stuck a finger up her ass...she definitely came...I could feel the orgasm in her ass muscles...
Afterwards, showered again and she left...total cost RMB600...overall an awesome experience.[/QUOTE]
I just learned I must go to nearby ZhongShan next week. I'll be there only one night, so I want to find a good hotel near any of the action spots. Can anyone recommend a hotel there? If any of your have any additional cheonging information, please post it here. I haven't been able to find anything throughout the Forum.
I'll be posting some FRs from this trip through several cities.
Thanks for the help.
Hey guys,
Need a recommendation for a nice 4-5 star hotel with F/S sauna or at least provide some nice girls. I'm not a big fan of the SW scene, and it is a little silly to do the KTV thing by myself.
Any suggestions? I saw some mention of the Zhuhai conference center, any other options?
Thanks in advance!
Most of the 5-star hotels in Zhuhai have health centers that provide FS.
The 2 with the best health centers are probably Zhuhai Holiday Resort and Harbor View (not be be confused with Grand Bay View).
Yindo and Holiday Inn also have health centers.
As a hotel guest, you can also order a massage in your room from the health center.
[QUOTE=Legal Lad]Hey guys,
Need a recommendation for a nice 4-5 star hotel with F/S sauna or at least provide some nice girls. I'm not a big fan of the SW scene, and it is a little silly to do the KTV thing by myself.
Any suggestions? I saw some mention of the Zhuhai conference center, any other options?
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
You could consider Yindo Hotel.
Good location and have a nice Sauna in the hotel.
But remember to ask to discount for the enttrant fee to the Sauna.
Cheers
I'll be traveling into Zhu Hai from Macau. Is it just across the border, or do I have to take a bus, taxi or train, to get to these great hotels.
You need take taxi to most of the hotels - it's a short ride though.
[QUOTE=abcinla]I'll be traveling into Zhu Hai from Macau. Is it just across the border, or do I have to take a bus, taxi or train, to get to these great hotels.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mark Mason]I would like to report that the road is not dead. There are many lovely ladies available from 9 a.m. until after midnight.
The road itself is being turned into a pedestrian zone so there is a bit of construction going on. There are many nice places to sit outside when it is not too cold and have a drink on the street and watch the ladies.
The Chang An Health Centre on Lian Hua Road Number 188 also has a nice service at very reasonable rates, especially compared to Macao. 68RMB for 2 hour massage plus 200 RMB (bargain down form 300) for fire and ice plus full service. I found the girls to be attractive and have good friendly attitude.[/QUOTE]LianHua Road is DEAD, at least today till 09:30 pm.
I was there a couple of weeks ago and found these lovely ladies. Such variety and good service.
I am looking forward to my next visit.
As I said I love the variety.
I don't know what happened. I thought I had attached photos to the last 2 posts. I will try again.
I'll do them one by one.
You have to love them.
i should have written this report long time ago. somehow i just got lazy. i was in zhuhai last year jan 2004. thanks too all of our bros contribute info and able to help me had a very enjoy able night in zhuhai. since, i only stayed there for one night, therefore my report won't be long. it was a friday morning that i took the ferry from hong kong to zhuhai. the ferry station is located in near central. the fare cost $150 hkd one way. i got there around 11am and took the cab to "guanbei" area to have lunch. as soon as i finished my lunch, i checked in at zhuhai holiday hotel.(zhuhai ban kung hotel) only charged me $350 rmb per night.
this hotel has a in house sauna and i can call them to send a girl to my room. i did use my hotel room telephone called them asking for in-room service.
after some 15mins someone was knocking on my door. i was very surpriced to see a very very young and pretty girl standing infront of me name fang. i was not thinking about sex, so i was not worrying **** girl legal issues. (now think back, maybe too risky even for a nice massage) she asked me to lay back and she started give me a very deep tissue massage on my back, my neck, and my arms....etc... things started to feel funny when she asked me to turn around. she starting to touch my nipples and even suck my nipples too.and next she started touching my johnny and trys to push for sale. she was asking for $500 rmb. i was really horny but i don't want to go to jail for having sex with an **** girl. so, i demand to check her id and it did prove she is 20 yrs old. (now i know asian girl can look much younger than their actual age). i counter offer her $300rmb, and she said yes. remember i was only with my under while she was massaging me. i just asked her to start to give me a bbbj, and not worry too much asking her to take shower. she did just okay on bj, after 5mins i asked her to be on top of me and i just let her ride me till i cum. i do know that sw from lotus rd only cost $200 rmb per pop, but i am just too lazy and tired. so, i asked her if she can come to my room tonight after work. and she agreed for $500 rmb for over night. well, i don't want to bore you guys with details, because pretty much the same. the next morning i send her way out after a morning section. i ended up gave her total of $600rmb. i was not able to have my digitcam with me, sorry about poor pics of fang from my cell phone cam. i headed back to hong kong right after breakfast at the hotel.
cheers
[QUOTE=solbre]Last night drove to Nanyou Hua Yuan street
many gals, some of them 8 / 9
For local man short time will cost 200 and for western 400
easy to negotiate[/QUOTE]
There were few posting request for information. Has anybody located this place and can give a more detail report. What district, near what hotel, major landmarks etc.
Thanks
I'm coming to Zhuhai this weekend to party with some friends. I was told yesterday that supposedly Dongguan is cheaper??? What are the quality of women like in ZH vs DG? Of course we all want the girls to look like models in the saunas and KTVs... Do you know what prices are like in ZH? 2-5-8 or 2-6-10?
In shanghai, the ktvs are crazy expensive! 3-8-15 or 3-10(15)-20. For newbies, what this means is 300 sit down, 800 short term, 1500 (RMB) over night.
Guyz,
Nice intro to this little border city. Will be dropping by Zhu hai early June. Though of checking out some of the scenes you bros experience.
Anyway, what is the wheather/tempreture like in June?
Any recommendation of KTV with top notch model look alike? what are the charges?
Any big festival or exhibition going on in June?
well this is my latest visit to zhuhai on 23 april 2005.
after my business meeting in guangzhou i took a bus to zhuhai just to meet up with my friend. the bus took about 2hour 30 minutes. upon reaching zhuhai i immediately walk towards lotus road to buy some stuff.
8.30pm - the scene in lotus road has greatly diminished but very much still alive. i was walking toward guangdong regency crossroad when a cute girl approaches me. she kinda pestering me to take her. seem take most girl do not hang along lotus road anymore cause there is always a police van around.
they will hang around the area just out of lotus road. anyway the day was early i told her i need to go shopping but she insist that she would follow. so no problem to let her hang around. upon reaching lotus road she sudden stop. she told me there is a police van up ahead and they will catch her if they see her.
so i just avoid the road and continue my shopping elsewhere. i told her i would be staying in my friends place so i just couldn't take her for the night. she suggest we get a short time hotel nearby.
well since i am kinda horny so wat the hell. we proceeded to a nearby hotel. and get an hourly room for rmb50. i put a deposit of rmb100 and registered with my passport. the room was kinda shabby but i'm not gonna stay here anyway.
she lead me into the bathroom and bath me immediately. then we proceed to the bed. she ask me if i ever did a fj without condom with a fl? i said no of course. i was still amaze by her question. she then gave me a bbbj. hmmm surprise me most chinese girl don't do bbbj. the bbbj was ok. i proceed to missionary but her moaning was kinda fake. we finished the job and chat a little. paid her rmb200 but she insist on rmb300. the going rate is rmb200 but since i forget to tell her before hand i just paid her rmb300 since her service is not bad.
upon checking out the receptionist returned me rmb30. rmb20 for the condom i use in the room. she gave me her h/p and gave me a peek on the cheek.
i went to lotus road again just to finish my shopping. seems that the police van had left. again the road were swarming with fl. i receive a wink every 10 steps. i told them i couldn't take them just to do my shopping. just walking pass the road i receive more than 10 phone no all writen in a small piece of paper with their name on it. there some very nice looking one but i am out loaded :(. i went back to my friend place for a rest he suggest we go out for supper.
12.30am - along the road to lotus road there are at least 30-40 girl lining up just by the roadside. i was pretty amaze! to see such a scene. my friend told me this is the prime time the girls come out when the police are off duty.
shit i should have came here later. anway the quality are good, i even saw a very cute girl at least 9/10 asking for just rmb200. if i had taken a hotel room i will definately take her.
left zhuhai the next day for home but i will be back in 14 may 2005 for another business meeting.
Actually, at Lotus Road, the going price is ar RMB200. Most FL will ask for another RMB20 - 30 as tips.
I will be at Zhuhai on May 20 - 23. Anyone there that we could share a goods time? This is my 3rd trips for this year, but still quite new to the places, as my trips are generally short.
I get to know a mamasan in one of the popular night club around Gongbei area. According to her, she can give me a 20-30% discount off the bills. As for girls, there are no discount. The going price for over night is RMB1K. Again, the girls might ask for some tips. That is totally up to the individual.
Regards,
Andy
Here is a FR for a recent (April 2005) visit to the health center of the Richmond (Jun De Hui Jiu Dian) hotel in Gongbei.
I had gone to this sauna a couple of times before with friends who live in the apartment complex next to it. Last time was a couple of years ago. My previous experiences were rather mediocre (by China standards) so I was not expecting much on this visit but I'm happy to report things have much improved.
The health center is on the 3rd floor, next to the gym. They have the usual locker and shower set up, then you go to the waiting room for snacks and drinks. The manager (a woman) came by to ask us for our preferences. My friend and I both asked for thin girls with "fuwu hao" (good service). Then we went to the massage rooms. My masseuse was already waiting inside. She was as requested, 5'5", thin and pleasant looking. I found out later that she is 20, from Guangdong province.
She asked me if I wanted the 1-hour and 2-hour option. I chose 2-hour ("1-hour" in these places actually means 45 mins, so I was going to get 90 mins). I undressed and let her proceed with the massage.
After about 30 mins of a so-so massage but pleasant conversation, she asked me to turn over and went out to get her "tools" for the nex part. She came back wth a tray bearing a couple of cups and other things I could not quite make out in the dark. She put together the 2 massage tables to make a bigger bed.
Then she undressed (excellent figure) and got on top of me. Cat bath all over the top half of my body, rubbed her tits over my dick and proceeded with a very good BBBJ. Next was bing huo (fire and ice) using hot tea and ice cubes (from the cups she brought in). Then with the ice cubes in her mouth she gave me a thorough rim job. She also used the popping candies during BBBJ. The whole thing probably lasted 20-30 mins. I played with her tits and fingered her while this was going on. She was soaking wet. Next she put a condom in her mouth and proceeded to unroll it on my dick while never missing a beat sucking it. For the next half-hour I fucked her in a number of positions while she participated enthusiastically. She told me afterwards she came a couple of times.
She gave me her mobile# afterwards and insisted that I call her next time I'm in Zhuhai.
Total damage: RMB 168 for the room and RMB 200 "xiao fei" for the girl. My friend reported a similarly good experience with a cute 18-year old from Hubei who just started working there.
Pick of a nice Hunan SW on Lian Hua Rd. There is a place in Lian Hua Rd, where there about 15 small square green umbrella cafes for drinks. They are lined up in a road in front of stores. Was there last year and this year, they closed part of the street, Lian Hua, to car traffic. Tons of SW will approach you if you sit there drinking. Some very young for my taste. Pick up a nice girl. Had NO trouble going into the hotel, Popoko, at 12am and pass 3 security guys. For some reason afterwards, she had problems leaving the hotel. Luckily she remember my room number and they called me (Why?). She's leaving NOT entering. Lucky the girl knew some English told me to say, "OK no problem". I think because of my lack Mandarin and the security guard's lack of Cantonese and English he gave up and let her go. I totally forgot the girl's name.
[QUOTE=Weelock]Pick of a nice Hunan SW on Lian Hua Rd. There is a place in Lian Hua Rd, where there about 15 small square green umbrella cafes for drinks. They are lined up in a road in front of stores. Was there last year and this year, they closed part of the street, Lian Hua, to car traffic. Tons of SW will approach you if you sit there drinking. Some very young for my taste. Pick up a nice girl. Had NO trouble going into the hotel, Popoko, at 12am and pass 3 security guys. For some reason afterwards, she had problems leaving the hotel. Luckily she remember my room number and they called me (Why?). She's leaving NOT entering. Lucky the girls knew some English told me to say, "OK no problem". I think because of my lack Mandarin and the security guard's lack of Cantonese and English he gave up and let her go. I totally forgot the girl's name.[/QUOTE]I found the hotels in Zhuhai to be extremely WL friendly. Some actually encourage you to register them, so they have their details if there is some problem. What happened was the hotel was checking that the WL did not skip out on you when you paid for a full night or that they haven't stole anything from you. Just say thank you "xie xie".
[QUOTE=Mark Mason]I found the hotels in Zhuhai to be extremely WL friendly. Some actually encourage you to register them, so they have their details if there is some problem. What happened was the hotel was checking that the WL did not skip out on you when you paid for a full night or that they haven't stole anything from you. Just say thank you "xie xie".[/QUOTE]
I was wondering what that was all about. I got this FL hanging our around the Guangdong Regency (Yue Hai) hotel. About 5'1" dyed orange/blonde hair, cute face,young sexy skinny body, but a definite pro. We got up to the room, she was talking about how she was going to give me a massage and give me a good time. We showered, she went right for the CBJ, went to CG, then I ran her through a bunch of positions. She was complaining how I took too long, and how she was only getting 200RMB for all this work. Her body was young and tight, but she had a pretty lousy attitude. I let her out, and about 10 minutes later, I got a phone call from a woman who seemed like she was working the front desk.
I was pretty worried, because I didn't know if she was just pretending and was going to send some fake cops to my room, or if the girl shouldn't have been there so she was sending real cops to my room, if the girl was ordering drinks downstairs and was charging them to my room, or what. I pretended not to understand what she was saying, asked her if she could speak English(she said no), and after a while, she said 'OK, sorry' and that was the end of it.
To Mark, and Member #3346,
Actually at first I didn't what was going on, and who the guy was, until the girl started talking. When we got to the hotel, the 3 security guards were not even near the elevators. Two were in sitting in the cafe and one was outside.
Weelock
Had some free time in the afternoon, so I stopped by the Yue Hai(Regency) to check out the sauna. They took me to a room with a couple massage tables, and I sat down. They started bringing girls by two at a time, wearing a short skirt and a short sleeved top, a little difficult to assess the body besides the legs/face. Girls were relatively young, looks 5-8, about 10 to choose from. I picked a young girl from some place I couldn't understand, cute face, slender body, then we went to a room upstairs. She was pretty, but a little tentative. Went to the shower, washed together, then back to the bed. Not much massage, pretty much got down to business. BBBJ, fire/ice, covered FS, no DFK. Body was young and tight, had decent skill, but not too enthusiastic. I had been in Dongguan the previous week and the quality of girls/service/facilities I thought was much higher there.
I went to Yindo next to see if I could do better.
Walked to the Yindo, figured the bigger hotels would have nicer places. Went into the sauna, looked sort of run down, like it probably used to be a really nice place, not dirty, just older. Went into the shower/steam room after changing, then sat in the lounge. The manager spoke a little English, and I saw some picture books, which I flipped through. The girls ranged in looks from 5-7. He said he could show me some girls upstairs. While I was waiting, I had a snack, and saw this cute foot massage girl, probably mid/late 30's with a cute face, nice rack, nice legs.
I go up to the room, and they start bringing girls in. Most all the girls looked way worse than their picture, and I go through about 15, not seeing one to my liking, until the foot massage girl gets in the lineup. I usually go for the younger ones, but there was something sexy about this older girl. I pick her, and there's a shower room attached to a room with a large massage table. I asked for a room with a bed, and the guy says all the rooms are like this. So we go to the shower. With her clothes off, she has a decent natural rack, but a lot more body fat than I like. Service was good, DFK, BBBJ, multiple positions FS, but I had a hard time getting off with all that body fat. Finally blew and took off.
L-face 7 body 6
A-8
S-8
Maybe I hit the wrong places, but I thought the saunas in Zhuhai were lacking compared to Dongguan and Macau.
Hey,
Visiting Zhuhai for the first time next week staying at the Holiday Inn. Read back to the posts which say that there is no mongering activity around the hotel.
Any suggestions of some easy to get to P4P from there or should I just stay in and use the hotel health club services? How far is lotus road?
I'm looking for good quality service even at higher $. Appreciate any help that local forum members can give..
Hi Iseeu,
This is my first posting, so bear with me. I was in Zhu Hai 2 weeks back (my first time too) and based on what I saw, I must say Lotus Road is hot. I don't much about Holiday Inn but I believe you need to take a cab to get to Lotus Road. I was approach by a few SW but being there for the first time, I was too cautious. I cannot remember how many approach me, but me being an asian, I can see they were really going all out. Believe me, the action was hot. I finally ended up with the hotel HC. Was not too bad but looks could be better. Should have taken one of the SW.
Hope this helps.
Hi Iseeu,
I was in Zhuhai about 4 weeks ago. Met some people from England, Korea and a British guy who lives about 4 blocks from Lotus Rd. On SW, the SW I picked up one on Lotus Rd, bad service for $200 RMB. I looked over 2 days worth of SW before I picked her. Like all SW YMMV. Lotus Rd is near the border to Macau.
Weelock
Thanks guys for your input...
Unfortunately, due to storms, etc we landed in Zhuhai after midnight and arrived at the Holiday Inn and 12:45 a.m.- too late to wander off to Orchard Road. Holiday Inn is a nice hotel but in a dead area for the hobby. So I ordered room service and resigned myself to an uneventful night.
While munching away I was reading the Book of hotel services and noticed a statement that the Golden Wave sauna on the 3rd floor is managed by the xxx management company. Red lights and bells start going off in my head and little iseeu got this big smile.Why would the hotel have a fitness club with sauna and massage on the 6th floor managed by the hotel, and another one on the 3rd floor?
So after dinner and some emails, went down to the 3rd floor. Took the Full service for 90 minutes option for 350 RMB. I was obviously the only client at 3:15 a.m., but nice, clean and roomy facility. Noticed that rooms have opaque windows that cannot be seen through. Shown to room which has massage table and high bed and this gorgeous girl of maybe 20 walks in- #13. Sure why not.
Takes of my shirt and runs fingers through my hairy chest. Begins so-so back massage. My hand idly rubs her leg while she stands alongside the mattress. No resistance. Flip over on back at full mast. with out ado she pulls down the short and inspects. makes hand motion for HJ. I make motion for more. 500 RMB. I offer 200. No, only 500 is possible. 300? no, these are house prices, she has to fill out a ticket. So I accepted for 500.
Gorgeous full-shaped body with real holdable breasts. Good BBJ, and when it's time for the deed there's a supply of condoms in the small cabinet. Wonderful ride, but no DATY. Afterwards she continues the massage which was really nothing great. But sweet girl and great ride.
Went to front desk and paid full bill at the counter, nothing to the girl. So yes, there is official action available at the Holiday Inn Zhuhai. I'll need to go back sometime and I'll try to get to Orchard road next time.
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continued from dongguang thread:
continuing my travels i took a car from chang ping to macau. the trip took over three hours but was interesting as you get to see a lot of the inland and take the pearl river ferry.
macau (and zhuhai) was quite a bit colder than i had expected. our hotel which we had arranged at the macau customs area was close to $80 us and quite shabby. what a let down after the sheraton in houjie and huimei in chang ping. we immediately set off to visit the casinos and settled on the newest kid on the block: the sands. pretty much a las vegas knockoff. loved the buffet which rivals any of the good vegas buffet though.
next it was off to lisboa basement for the fun parade. strategically seated at the chinese restaurant close to the main escelators we watched the girls speed back and forth on the "alley of love" ^_^ the quality of the girls ranged from 7 to 9. one thing i noticed right off the bat was the white punters were not approached as much as the asian (especially older asian) punters. my first selection point blank refused to even to talk to me or my friend. hmmm..not one to easily give up i went to choice number two who quickly agreed and we were on our way to the elevator. once in the elevator i decided to confirm the "fee" at $500 mcp....she smiled at me and told me $1000. i pushed the button to go back down and said no way...after a bit of thinking she dropped to $800 and assured me that it was a busy weekend and no girl would come down further for a white guy. we'll see...i thought.
i politely declined and sent her on here way. i didn't have to look for number three too long because she aggressively pursued me...she came over very quickly and suggested action for a $1000...then $800 and her final word was $600. it was getting late so i thought what the hell...she was a solid 8 and maybe even worth the money. the action in her smallish room was professional and included bbbj.
after the lisboa basement we hit the dd disco where we hooked up with a couple real fun mongolian chicks. we were all set to go home together when my buddy took me aside to tell me that one of the drunk mongolian chicks tried to steal his vallet. hmm...no mongolian tonight. did find a couple of vietnamese girls who took us to their apartment and after some confusion and negotiation we ended up with a couple of "friends (coworkers?) of the original ones we found at dd's for $300 each. very nice bbbj cim for that price point.
the next night we walked around the holiday inn area looking for street walkers. only found a few none of whom looked very good. also they were asking for $500 for st...finally negotiated one to $300 who took me to her run down apartment in the area. service very mediocre and the surroundings very downtrodden. not a good experience.
on our last day we stopped by darling massage to check out the lineup. wow!! my only regret on this one month trip was not choosing a girl at darling. the price was surely prohibitive (1700 mcp) but boy the range was 8 to 9.5. single best lineup i have ever seen in a massage place (and this from a bkk specialist). well fortunately there will be other chances in the future, i hope.
my overall impression of macau: pricey...not a very good quality to price ratio for hotels, food and girls. however, if you have only a short time and plentiful resources the top end quality is readily available. off to zhuhai.
to be continued.
Literally walking from Macau into Zhuhai I walked across the wide open square after coming out of the customs and immigration area.
Managed to get a Taxi and tried to tell the driver to take me to the GD Regency. He didn't have a clue what I meant and it took a while to figure out that GD Regency is Yue Hai Hotel. My strong advice for all non Chinese China travellers. ALWAYS learn the Chinese names of Hotels. You can literally stand in front of a hotel and ask the the Hotel's bellman and they wouldn't know the hotel by the English name (this did happen to me in Chang Ping). Once settled in my nice mini suite at Yue Hai I was off to Lian Hua Lu looking for SW. Didn't have to walk far as one approached me right in front on my Hotel!! Not very cute though so I kept walking. Basically for the next four nights I would spend walkig this street and take my place in one of those little coffee/juice mini pavilions that are on the two sides of the street. That is the best strategy as all the girls walk by anyway and you can tell your waitress to get any of the girls that are walking by. Negotiations many times happen with the Mama of the girls. A few times they tried to pull a fast one on me but generally I got the 200 Yuan rate for ST at my Hotel. For girl #3 I negotiated all night for $600 (took her dancing after shot one). The quality of the girls was quite nice and ranged from 6 to 8.5. Excellent value. Some pictures of the Lian Hua Lu girls attached below.
Also a very favorable mention of the nightlife in Zhuhai...the bar street and Yesterday Disco with it multiple floors are excellent and you can pick up there. The threesome girls I picked up at Yesterday.
In conclusion I am a big believer in Zhuhai and I didn't even go to any of the KTV's and saunas. The SW and free lance action was plentiful enough for me. On the whole Zhuhai is a far better value than Macau with good food, entertainment and cute xiaujie.
To Be Continued.
During my China/HK/Macau trips I went to Houjie, Changping, Macau, and Zhuhai. I stayed at the Sheraton Houjie(as well as the Cinese), Guangdong Regency in Zhuhai, and Huei Mei in Changping. I love your pictures because it brings back very nice memories. Especially the lounge chair at the Huei Mei.
Wow it really seems that I followed your itiniary. Yes those lounge chairs at the HuiMei are quite nice, and I don't mean just for "lounging"
Well let me know if you plan to travel there again. I would love to meet up one day.
Ramsey
Hi all,
Will be in Zhuhai towards the end of the month, wondering if any of you 'old hands' have any recent reports re: the current situation. I must've read this thread over a dozen times. Here are a few questions:
1) Does anybody have any experience with the hua2 ce4 hotel? Apparently it's 3-star and located on Lianhua Lu. Don't know the English name for it.
2) It seems to me that RMB200/RMB500 is the going rate for ST/LT for the "little angels" on Lianhua Lu... is it generally safe to bring them back to a 3-star hotel?
3) As I will be traveling alone, it would seem to me that the KTV scene is out... anyone with any luck/recommendations as to the FL situation? - is there a disco/danceclub worth checking out for potential FLs or freebies?
4) Recommendations are also welcome for FS massage/saunas. Is there one with good facilities/service/selection?
Thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Hi all,
Will be in Zhuhai towards the end of the month, wondering if any of you 'old hands' have any recent reports re: the current situation. I must've read this thread over a dozen times. Here are a few questions:
1) Does anybody have any experience with the hua2 ce4 hotel? Apparently it's 3-star and located on Lianhua Lu. Don't know the English name for it.
2) It seems to me that RMB200/RMB500 is the going rate for ST/LT for the "little angels" on Lianhua Lu... is it generally safe to bring them back to a 3-star hotel?
3) As I will be traveling alone, it would seem to me that the KTV scene is out... anyone with any luck/recommendations as to the FL situation? - is there a disco/danceclub worth checking out for potential FLs or freebies?
4) Recommendations are also welcome for FS massage/saunas. Is there one with good facilities/service/selection?
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
to
raver boy
zhu hai is pretty dead right now , you can still go to ktv and sauna in the
4 star hotel , last time i was there is 4 month ago , i heard from my freind
that is still dead on the sw ,big police crack down on lianhua rd, you should go somewhere else to hunt . pm me if need more answer
fast eddie 48
This is a follow-up report on the Richmond Hill hotel heath center (located at Jun Fa Shan Zhuang, a popular expat living complex in Gongbei).
I posted a report on this place on the past so please refer to it for details on the set up of this sauna. What I want to describe here is my experience there last time that I opted to use the "VIP room."
Usually, in most sauna's, you just get a larger and nicer room (with bathroom) when you ask for the VIP room. This place, however, offers additional services when you elect the VIP room (guibin fang).
Cost is RMB 198 for 90 mins, plus tip for the girl.
The VIP room is a small suite with its own bathroom in which a massage table is set up. The session started with me laying face down, naked on the massage table (the girl is also naked by then). The girl then poured water on me and soaped and massaged me with her hands. Then she got on the table, crouched over me and massaged me with her tits. After a while, she poured water over me and rinse me clean. Then the cat bath started: licked me from my neck to my toes, and finally AR for a good 10 mins. Then asked me to turn over. Same drill again with the soaping, hand massage and tits massage. Then sat over me in reverse cow girl position, caught my cock between her thighs, and went up and down, like I was fucking her, except that I did not penetrate her. Quite a nice sensation, the combination of her soft thighs and the abundant soap felt good. Then she rinsed me and started fire & ice BBBJ. After about 5 mins, she dried me up and we moved into the bedroom.
More BBBJ on the bed, then she put a condom in her mouth and rolled it on me. I fucked her in her number of positions and she was very cooperative. For some reason I was not going to come that way that day. I laid back down on the bed, took the condom off and asked her to blow me. No problem, she went at it, worked hard at it and took it all in her mouth like a champ. She brushed her teeth and went back to rub my back for the remaining few minutes.
She is #2, from Sichuan, very good BJ skills.
In reply to Fast Eddie 48, I was in LianHua Road a few weeks ago and there was pleanty of action. The police van would roll up and the SW would disappear for a short time. A few minutes later when the van would move on they would return. The little stands with seats are a good place to watch the show.
I don't know the KTV and Sauna scene, but there are lots of BBS in a lane off the road. There is also a nice Fujian massage place, whith very pretty young ladies. They only offer HJ but they use soapy water or oil and it is very nice for RMB70, with no tip expected. Book for one hour (45 minutes actually) and they will ask if you want to have the HJ for the cost of another hour. Just pay the boss downstairs when you have finished.
The hotels are generally very friendly and i have never had a problem with the 2 star Hotels (generally about RMB200 for a room on the weekends).
I just got back from Zhu Hai. Let me tell you the girls are hot and they are everywhere. I was there for 3 days and lan wha road is the place to be. There has to be about 100 girls working there. A lot from the 7 to 9 range. And the price is all the same 200. I did not notice any police crack down or anything it seems like that it is almost legal there for the girls to work, and the hotels has not problems with me bring the girls up to my room.
Night Dragon:
Thanks for the report.
Coincidentally, yesterday, I was trying to decide between a real massage at SZ or the Richmeond Hotel based on your previous report before I saw this new one this morning.
I ended up in SZ and even though it was a very nice massage, I will be going to ZH within the next few days to try this place out.
By the way, what was the tip for the girl? It was RMB300 last year at other facility, has it changed?
I will report later and try for some pics as well.
Can any one tell me the Richmond Hill Hotel Health Center is the same as the Jin De Hui Health Center?
What is the address of the Plece?
[QUOTE=Theman134]I just got back from Zhu Hai. Let me tell you the girls are hot and they are everywhere. I was there for 3 days and lan wha road is the place to be. There has to be about 100 girls working there. A lot from the 7 to 9 range. And the price is all the same 200. I did not notice any police crack down or anything it seems like that it is almost legal there for the girls to work, and the hotels has not problems with me bring the girls up to my room.[/QUOTE]
to theman
is good to know zhu hai is making a come back , i think is still a hit and miss
you need to be there at the right time , the police is stll cracking down on
the sw action on lianhua rd . i might go there for a few day and have a new
report when i get back.
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=lcan 74]Can any one tell me the Richmond Hill Hotel Health Center is the same as the Jin De Hui Health Center?
What is the address of the Plece?[/QUOTE]Jun De Hui Jiu Dian is the Chinese name of the Richmond Hill hotel. It is behind Ying Bin Lu (entrance on Lian An Lu).
Any taxi driver knows.
[QUOTE=Lilojo]Night Dragon:
Thanks for the report.
Coincidentally, yesterday, I was trying to decide between a real massage at SZ or the Richmeond Hotel based on your previous report before I saw this new one this morning.
I ended up in SZ and even though it was a very nice massage, I will be going to ZH within the next few days to try this place out.
By the way, what was the tip for the girl? It was RMB300 last year at other facility, has it changed?
I will report later and try for some pics as well.[/QUOTE]I tipped her RMB 300 because I was happy with her and because it was a double session (90 mins). Otherwise, you can tip 200.
There is a famous place in Tangjia named JuLong hotel. you can catch a sign on the half way between Check passport stand and Gongbei.
First floor is lobby, second is KTV, third floor is Sauna. straight went to third floor room, a waiter leaded three girls for me choice. i chose one Guangdong girl. she led me into sauna room and help me wash,total 20 kinds of service,including lick body and asshole, flying fuck,and the girl have a sex toy to let you flirt her. i checked the service kits, somethings i don't how to use,even including Endia Oil.
i lay on the bed enjoyed for nearly 30 minutes, cant take it, then cover condom and dig the hottie. and near my coming out, the girl lick my dick and swallow all my juice.
Total damage: 400yuan, not bad.
By the way, if you a take a taxi to there, maybe need 20-30 minutes
Dicky
Dicky:
Great find but not enough info for the location.
We need more details to find the place.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Lilojo]Dicky:
Great find but not enough info for the location.
We need more details to find the place.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]"Ju Long" or Dragon Club is in the city of Tang Jia, about 30 minutes from downtown Zhuhai. It is quite well-known.
The club is on the main highway that crosses Tang Jia, next to the new market (Tangjia shichang). You can't miss it. It is a large white building with greek columns. It dwafs everything around.
[QUOTE=lcan 74]Can any one tell me the Richmond Hill Hotel Health Center is the same as the Jin De Hui Health Center?
What is the address of the Plece?[/QUOTE]Here is the address of the hotel in Chinese, and its tel. no. If you need it in pinyin, let me know.
珠海市拱北联安路188号骏发山庄(骏德会酒店)
电话:(86-756)8155558
Hello gents,
After reading through the posts going back several years, I have a few more questions. I'll be in HK/Macau next month and I was thinking about checking out the mainland, which I've never visited. Please forgive my ignorance on this area.
1. Do you need a visa to cross over to Zhu Hai from Macau?
2. How much are the rooms at the GD Regency? Is there a website I can use to make my reservation?
3. Besides mongering, is there anything interesting to do there?
Thank you for your time,
Mattrick
Mattrick,
You need a visa to enter ZH from Macau. GDR rate is from 380 to 530 yuan. Have fun!
Night Dragon,
Your information is very helpful. I am sure able to find it and will take # 2 to try. How is her looking?
Lcan74
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Hello gents,
After reading through the posts going back several years, I have a few more questions. I'll be in HK/Macau next month and I was thinking about checking out the mainland, which I've never visited. Please forgive my ignorance on this area.
1. Do you need a visa to cross over to Zhu Hai from Macau?
2. How much are the rooms at the GD Regency? Is there a website I can use to make my reservation?
3. Besides mongering, is there anything interesting to do there?
Thank you for your time,
Mattrick[/QUOTE]
If you get a visa, you might want to get a multiple entry visa, in case you like it so much you want to go back after returning to MC.
You can make a reservation at [url]www.elong.net[/url]. I used them once to book GD regency and had no problem.
Don't know there's that much to do in ZH besides buy pirated goods.
Have fun,
Q
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Hello gents,
After reading through the posts going back several years, I have a few more questions. I'll be in HK/Macau next month and I was thinking about checking out the mainland, which I've never visited. Please forgive my ignorance on this area.
Thank you for your time,
Mattrick[/QUOTE]
1. Do you need a visa to cross over to Zhu Hai from Macau?
It depends what country/planet you are you from? For most, like for USA, Yes, it's like going to China.
2. How much are the rooms at the GD Regency? Is there a website I can use to make my reservation?
I found out the advertised rate is NOT the same. You need to call or asked them at the front desk. The hotels usually give discounts. Don't know about website.
3. Besides mongering, is there anything interesting to do there?
There is a large underground mall near by. A nice beach.
Watch out for a new Japanese orgy happening soon in Zhuhai.
Hi guys,
I'm a white western man who will be in ZhuHai soon (aka exotic blue-eyed white guy).
Can anyone name some good places where local girls will give free action if they like you? I don't mind to pay for her drinks/dinner and Cab fare and small gift like new shoes or something. Is there some nightclub or bar near to one of the Universities that is good, or other such place?
I will probably partake in some professional action too, but wanted some idea about non-pro too.
Also, would it be good for me to spend a Day/Night in Hong Kong or Macao looking for freebie action? Or perhaps those areas are more expensive or the young women there are more stuck-up (more selective) and harder to score with versus ZhuHai girls ?
Thank you,
Dar
[QUOTE=lcan 74]Night Dragon,
Your information is very helpful. I am sure able to find it and will take # 2 to try. How is her looking?
Lcan74[/QUOTE]Lcan74,
I would not qualify #2 as "pretty" but she offers very good service and is a sweet girl. #83 (Cantonese girl) is more "pretty" and has very nice skin.
Have fun.
I decided to try both to see if they compare.
Well, there is really no comparison.
To make a long story short, JuLong is far out of the way. Atleast RMB40 one way by taxi from the ferry or the GongBei border with Macau where Lotus Road is. The club would only provide free transportation if there are multiple patrons. (3 according to the manager, 5 according to the waiter)
In JuLong, VIP room was quoted as RMB198 but the manager offered an instant discount card of RMB50, so make sure to ask for it.
JuLong looks good from the outside but everything else is quite run down inside. The VIP room is not well kept at all. The carpeting is ripped throughout and the VIP room is just a larger bed with a shower. The VIP room at Richmond has a full bath table where the girl would provide a lying down wash and wet soapy body massage, Macau style.
JuLong gave a lineup for choosing and the quality ran from 5 to 7 out of 10. The manager actually looked the best out of the lot.
The service was adequate but I may be biased because I clicked with the girl at Richmond Club better. The full sized wash table at the Richmond club allowed a lot more flexibility in terms of service.
I must say, therefore, the VIP room at The PoPoKo hotel is also good value. See my report from last year. Just my opinion.
Happy Hunting.
Dar,
Just flash your renminbi. They'll come running. Your exotic blue eyes and white skin can only do so much. At worse, you're tagged 'laowai' - a faintly derogatory term for foreigners. At best, a congenial idiot - someone to be bilked for cash and gifts.
No one gets a free piece of a$$. When you total up the meals and gifts, it's the same. That's universal.
Thanks Night Dragon,
Here is the option: you prefered good looking with poor service or not good looking with good service.
I am looking for fun and not look for girl friend. Of course good service is the better. What you think? Buddie.
Lcan74
[QUOTE=Dar425]Hi guys,
I'm a white western man who will be in ZhuHai soon (aka exotic blue-eyed white guy).
Can anyone name some good places where local girls will give free action if they like you? I don't mind to pay for her drinks/dinner and Cab fare and small gift like new shoes or something. Is there some nightclub or bar near to one of the Universities that is good, or other such place?
I will probably partake in some professional action too, but wanted some idea about non-pro too.
Also, would it be good for me to spend a Day/Night in Hong Kong or Macao looking for freebie action? Or perhaps those areas are more expensive or the young women there are more stuck-up (more selective) and harder to score with versus ZhuHai girls ?
Thank you,
Dar[/QUOTE]
I've found Macau to be a good place for freebies with a little initial investment. I mostly go to the saunas, and over half the time I've been propositioned by the girls to meet outside, or the girls have responded favorably to meeting outside of work. I think most if not all the sauna girls are in Macau to work and have their passports taken away, so unlike many of the working girls in other locales, can't take off for vacation. They pretty much stay in Macau, and are pretty lonely.
Twice I've met girls outside of work, and they were happy to be taken out, picking relatively inexpensive places to hang out, were very accomodating back at my hotel, and never asked for $ after(I didn't give them any, and didn't have a protest or frown either time).
Good luck
Does anyone know a cheaper Hotel next or around the GD Regency ?
1: GD Regency 粤海酒店
2: Chang An Hotel 昌安酒店, a very clean Hotel, excellent value for money. I paid 240 RMB (Maybe prices change there also from time to time). On the Corner of LianHua Lu 莲花路.
3: Da Hai Hotel 达海酒店, Price 130 RMB, I haven't seen the rooms, but a Canadian Chinese told me they are ok. Since it is right opposite the bars i Lian Hua Lu, it is no risk checking it out. I would appreciate a feedback.
From there it is just 5-10 mins walk to the border to Macau.
attached the map.
[QUOTE=Weelock]1. Do you need a visa to cross over to Zhu Hai from Macau?
It depends what country/planet you are you from? For most, like for USA, Yes, it's like going to China.
2. How much are the rooms at the GD Regency? Is there a website I can use to make my reservation?
I found out the advertised rate is NOT the same. You need to call or asked them at the front desk. The hotels usually give discounts. Don't know about website.
3. Besides mongering, is there anything interesting to do there?
There is a large underground mall near by. A nice beach.
Watch out for a new Japanese orgy happening soon in Zhuhai.[/QUOTE]
to weelock
zhu hai like shenzhen is a sez of china . for US citizen you can get a 5 day
visa on the border for 450 rmb but cann,t go any further into china not even
panyu. i have a china pass offen i will stay in zhu hai for the night and go to
macau in the morning hotel price in zhu hai is more than half the price than
macau, and the shopping is also very good,
for action zhu hai is dead after the japanese orgy , the street action is dead
i have not been there for over a year, but i will visit again sometime next yr,
have is many thing to do their golfing and hot spring is other thing to do .
fast eddie 48
Fast Eddie,
Are you sure a US citizien can get a 5 day visa on the border to Zhuhai? In Luohu you still can't. I have checked it out yesterday there.
Tiger
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to weelock
zhu hai like shenzhen is a sez of china . for US citizen you can get a 5 day
visa on the border for 450 rmb but cann,t go any further into china not even
panyu. i have a china pass offen i will stay in zhu hai for the night and go to
macau in the morning hotel price in zhu hai is more than half the price than
macau, and the shopping is also very good,
for action zhu hai is dead after the japanese orgy , the street action is dead
i have not been there for over a year, but i will visit again sometime next yr,
have is many thing to do their golfing and hot spring is other thing to do .
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Sorry, for 450RMB, I rather get a regular USA visa into China. A normal visa is about $50USD or ~400RMB for a single entry. You can go to ANYWHERE with a regular visa. I crossed over from Macau over to Zhuhai in early May 2005, then into China. In late June I went into Shenzhen. I have done this three times already. I was in China for 2 months 2005 on a tourist visa and was told it can be even longer. For just for a five day visa for 450RMB, is NOT worth it unless it's an emergency. For other planets/countries, I don't know what's the price or procedure. I know Zhuhai and Shenzhen are considered special ecomonic zones. People from China need a permit to visit.
When I was in Zhuhai in mid May 2005, I saw tons of SW on LianHua Road. It was all day long. I even drop by at 4am. I was surprised to still see so many people still on the streets. My favorite spot was sitting and drinking in those small green umbrella bars on the sidewalk. There are about 15 of them lined up serving drinks and food. SW would come up asking if you need companionship. There's NO cars since the LianHua is blocked off. Since leaving Zhuhai, I have be reading conflicting information on WSG on the status of this area, strange. It seems like one week it's fine then the next week, problems.
Weelock
[QUOTE=Tiger 1]Fast Eddie,
Are you sure a US citizien can get a 5 day visa on the border to Zhuhai? In Luohu you still can't. I have checked it out yesterday there.
Tiger[/QUOTE]
After US's requirement on every visa applier to leave their fingerprints, China revoked the privilege of US citizens to get Chinese visa upon landing or at border. Not sure if Zhuhai is an exception?
[QUOTE=Heel Lover]After US's requirement on every visa applier to leave their fingerprints, China revoked the privilege of US citizens to get Chinese visa upon landing or at border. Not sure if Zhuhai is an exception?[/QUOTE]
to heel lover / weelock
i am not aware of the law change , this is 2 yr ago when i did this it zhu hai
border , china have been increase visa cost for US citizen becasuse US make
it difficult for china citizen to visit US , i remember 7 yr ago Us citizen can
visit shenzhen for free , so i think is the best thing to do is get your china
visa in US before your trip .
fast eddie 48
My understanding is that USA passport holders do not need a visa to enter into Hong Kong or Macao. These 2 places are called SARs (Special Administrative Regions).
However, USA passport holders need a visa to enter into Zhuhai or Shenzhen, because these are SEZ (Special Economic Zones).
It used to be that a USA passport holder could fly into Hong Kong, then cross into Shenzhen at the LuoHu boarder (getting the proper visa during the crossing of the LuoHu boarder). But, this is not the situation anymore, and the proper visa is now ususally gotten from the Chinese Consulate offices in USA, or can be gotten during your visit/stay when in Hong Kong (you can go to Chinese Travel Service agency in Hong Kong and apply for the SEZ visa and pay an extra fee to get a 24-48 hour turn-around on your visa).
However, what I am NOT sure about, is if the visa used to enter into the Shenzhen SEZ also covers entry into the Zhuhai SEZ (meaning 1 visa covers both places, or if there must be 2 different visas obtained?).
Dar
[QUOTE=Dar425]My understanding is that USA passport holders do not need a visa to enter into Hong Kong or Macao. These 2 places are called SARs (Special Administrative Regions).
However, USA passport holders need a visa to enter into Zhuhai or Shenzhen, because these are SEZ (Special Economic Zones).
It used to be that a USA passport holder could fly into Hong Kong, then cross into Shenzhen at the LuoHu boarder (getting the proper visa during the crossing of the LuoHu boarder). But, this is not the situation anymore, and the proper visa is now ususally gotten from the Chinese Consulate offices in USA, or can be gotten during your visit/stay when in Hong Kong (you can go to Chinese Travel Service agency in Hong Kong and apply for the SEZ visa and pay an extra fee to get a 24-48 hour turn-around on your visa).
However, what I am NOT sure about, is if the visa used to enter into the Shenzhen SEZ also covers entry into the Zhuhai SEZ (meaning 1 visa covers both places, or if there must be 2 different visas obtained?).
Dar[/QUOTE]
i ask this question about 3 yr ago , i was at louwu border at shenzhen , got
the 5 days visa it only take about 15 min , i ask can i enter at louwu border
and re enter at zhu hai i was planning to take the ferry from shekou to zhu
hai the answer is no , the agent said i only can stay in shenzhen only and exit
only from shenzhen back to hong kong . 450 rmb is the cost. i am not sure if
you can still do this any more at the border .
the best thing to do is get your visa to china at US cost for single enter for
whole china is $ 50.00 usd or you can get it at china service in hong kong
cost is around $ 650 hkd for express visa for single entry or $ 400 hkd for a
single entry 2 days advance, cost for china visa have been going up alot the
last 8 year .
fast eddie 48
The answer to this Question is very simple.
You can only get the 5 days visa (except US citiziens) on the border just before entering the SEZ. Which means you must immediately enter after obtaining the visa. Now, supposed you enter Shenzhen on the 5 days visa and are not allowed to leave the SEZ, how would you possibly get to Zhuhai without breaking the rules?
Any visas obtained from an agent in HK or the China Visa Office at the china resources bldg. in Wanchai will be a full, non restricted visa.
For more visa regulations please see my detailled report in the hong kong thread, including an agent who is among the cheapest.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=395623&postcount=5[/url]
First I would like to apologize for bringing up a NON-mongering question – but I really need you guyses input.
Holding a Canadian passport but resident of Hong Kong, I have a 3 year multiple entry visa to China. Unfortunately though, every time I arrive/depart China, I get one more stamp on my passport which have now practically covered my whole passport/am running out of pages.
Last time I crossed Zhuhai, I happened to follow another Canadian passport holder who had a SEPARATE piece of paper that the PRC immigration used to put his stamp on - because his pasport was also getting full of these PRC stamps.
This Canadian told me that he got this piece of paper from some PRC government department – NOT from Canada. Unfortunately, I didn’t really catch the proper name of the PRC government department/shop and have up to now not been able to buy one of these pieces of paper.
Does anybody here know where I can get this?
Thanks for any help
SE Asia Joe
Will be heading out to Zhongshan for some work. Does anyone know where we can play? Looking for good quality saunas... the sauna doesn't have to be great, but the girls do. ;-)
Still waiting for someone that knows anything about Yiwu... anyone from this board know? Recommended "fun" places and hotels.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]First I would like to apologize for bringing up a NON-mongering question – but I really need you guyses input.
Holding a Canadian passport but resident of Hong Kong, I have a 3 year multiple entry visa to China. Unfortunately though, every time I arrive/depart China, I get one more stamp on my passport which have now practically covered my whole passport/am running out of pages.
Last time I crossed Zhuhai, I happened to follow another Canadian passport holder who had a SEPARATE piece of paper that the PRC immigration used to put his stamp on - because his pasport was also getting full of these PRC stamps.
This Canadian told me that he got this piece of paper from some PRC government department – NOT from Canada. Unfortunately, I didn’t really catch the proper name of the PRC government department/shop and have up to now not been able to buy one of these pieces of paper.
Does anybody here know where I can get this?
Thanks for any help
SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]
to se joe
if you have a permanent hk id and a hong kong resident , you can apply
for a china travel id is good for 10 yr at the hong kong china travel service
i apply for one 2 yr ago after travel to china for last 10 yr with my US pass
port and a china visa , i know US passport you can do a ammend add page
to it for free you mail it to us passport service only pay for the postage. i
have done it a few time because i travel alot for business. not sure about
canada you might contact them and see .
fast eddie 48
There is plenty of action on Lian Hua Lu. Within 2 minutes of leaving my hotel I met a very pretty Miss Good 'n Tight, 200RMB asking price.
I also have a very nice room for only 150 RMB.
If you stay in zhuhuai,you can try Jinye hotel sauna, three star, half year ago,i tried there,total damiage is about 368 yuan,including hotties fee,really worthy.the hotel is just located at the first cross road after you out the passport check building,very easy to find.
Another three star hotel is Qianshan hotel,about 15 yuan taxi fee from Gongbei check port,the sauna and girl are impressive too.
If you want to try cheaper walk street girl, the puplic garden facing 2000 hotel is centralized.only 60--80yuan for one shot.
If you stay Zhongshan,zhong shan International hotel and Fuhua hotel are not bad in downtown.if you want to try small town of zhongshan,there are too many to describe.
Yiwu is in Zhejian province neiboured with shanghai, it is famous for the low price and low quality in China.there nearly each family is a workshop.
hope my introduction could help you .
Dicky
[QUOTE=John Siron]Will be heading out to Zhongshan for some work. Does anyone know where we can play? Looking for good quality saunas... the sauna doesn't have to be great, but the girls do. ;-)
Still waiting for someone that knows anything about Yiwu... anyone from this board know? Recommended "fun" places and hotels.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
If you stay Zhongshan,zhong shan International hotel and Fuhua hotel are not bad in downtown.if you want to try small town of zhongshan,there are too many to describe.
Can you inbox me some of those place in ZhongShan? I will visit some of my relatives living in that region and I don't want them to show me around for the hobby purposes.
Thanks In Advance!
I went over from Macau for a Daytrip meeting with a top official of China Travel Service in Zhuhai.His staff were waiting with a limo to pick me up at the Gongbei Control post and After a wonderful lunch and a series of meetings concerning tour groups going to the Philippines.He brought me and my companions to a KTV where I was offerred a choice of companions.I selected 2 and from the way they performed,I could barely stand!!!Apparently they were told I was a VIP guest,they did their work with lots of energy and eagerness to please.Unfortunately I cannot give more details,since it might be improper to have his identity mentioned in a forum like this.The best part was it was totally hosted and on the way back to Macau,It was fun to be able to use the APEC Diplomatic lane and clear Chinese immigration control in 3-4 minutes.Furthermore my host had a Limo waiting for me at the Macau side to take me to my hotel.I will be most defenitely be back in Zhuhai
Can anyone help me with information on the Islands south of Zuhai.
I'll be visiting the islands for 2 nights. Need infor on the hot spots to pick up girls. What is the damage like?
[QUOTE=curiousdick]Can anyone help me with information on the Islands south of Zuhai.
I'll be visiting the islands for 2 nights. Need infor on the hot spots to pick up girls. What is the damage like?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
What island are you talking about? I believe south of ZhuHai would be Macau? I do have a border map of Zhuhai that someone posted before on WSG. Please do a search for it, if you can't find it let me know I will post it.
Weelock
[QUOTE=curiousdick]Can anyone help me with information on the Islands south of Zuhai.
I'll be visiting the islands for 2 nights. Need infor on the hot spots to pick up girls. What is the damage like?[/QUOTE]
to curiousdick
are you talking about the big island of hainan city of haikou , there is a theard
on this island on the china sections , this place is not closed to zhu hai si 15
hr by bus and one hr by air . pm me if this is what you are talking about .
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=curiousdick]Can anyone help me with information on the Islands south of Zuhai.
I'll be visiting the islands for 2 nights. Need infor on the hot spots to pick up girls. What is the damage like?[/QUOTE]Not sure which island you are going to. There are many small islands of Zhuhai. But there two very famous islands name Shangsha and Xiashan island for the hotties. Many Tainwanese come to the Macau then by hours bus then by 30 minutes bus to the two islands only on the purpose for hotties,they usually stay severals days or a week.
There are nearly 2000 thounds on Xiasha, and 1000 hotties in Shangsha, but the both islands are not belong to Taishan not belong to Zhuaha.
If you need more help, PM me please. I am staying Zhuhai.
Dicky
So are the islands in question Coloane and Taipa or Hainan,Just wondering??
[QUOTE=Dickystiffy]Not sure which island you are going to. There are many small islands of Zhuhai. But there two very famous islands name Shangsha and Xiashan island for the hotties. Many Tainwanese come to the Macau then by hours bus then by 30 minutes bus to the two islands only on the purpose for hotties,they usually stay severals days or a week.
There are nearly 2000 thounds on Xiasha, and 1000 hotties in Shangsha, but the both islands are not belong to Taishan not belong to Zhuaha.
If you need more help, PM me please. I am staying Zhuhai.
Dicky[/QUOTE]
Hi all,
I have attached a map for Zhuhai to try to locate these 2 island of "curiousdick". Hope it's not a wide goose hunt.
To Dickystiffy,
I’m curious, 1000 + 2000 = 3000 girls on an island but I CAN'T find these two places, Shangsha and Xiasha island on any map in Taishan. Can you give me (us) more information on these two places. I have other maps but I have to find them. I did see [b]Shangchuan and Xiachuan island[/b] and are these the same two island you are talking about? I would assume getting there, first by bus then by boat. I believe the island is too small for an airfield for any large plane to land but I might be wrong.
I recall reading a few places in Doemen and Jiangmen are fun places to monger also around Taishan County. Please PM Dickystiffy.
See attached maps of Taishan.
Sound like a place to explore. I have been to Taishan City a few times.
That sounds most interresting.
I have attached a map out of a chinese road atlas, which still doesn't give a clue how to go there. Some detailled instructions would be most helpful. I will try to find out though.
Sorry for the size, but I think it is necessary to include JiangMen and there is a pixel limit for uploading.
For a higher resolution version pm me with email address.
Tiger
[QUOTE=Tiger 1]That sounds most interresting.
I have attached a map out of a chinese road atlas, which still doesn't give a clue how to go there. Some detailled instructions would be most helpful. I will try to find out though.
Sorry for the size, but I think it is necessary to include JiangMen and there is a pixel limit for uploading.
For a higher resolution version pm me with email address.
Tiger[/QUOTE]
hey tiger
this two island sound japenese , may be owe by them after they got kick
out of zhu hai after the jap orgy last yr , never heard about this island
like to know more i might go check it out next time i go there.
thanks
fast eddie 48
i find this info on virtual tourist.com about this island
shangchuan dao hodonistic paradise of china , island that young people go
to surf and have fun , just wonder why no one know much about this place
it got me intersted of going .
[url]http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/46443/f5006/[/url]
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]i find this info on virtual tourist.com about this island
shangchuan dao hodonistic paradise of china , island that young people go
to surf and have fun , just wonder why no one know much about this place
it got me intersted of going .
[url]http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/46443/f5006/[/url]
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Something interesting that was noted in webpage in virtualtourist.com.
"Most people outside of China never heard of Shangchuan. It is where young Chinese adults go to play. The island is big enough that it's still possible to find beautiful remote areas to get away from the wild parties, especially on the idyllic northwest part of the island where this serene scene is seen".
Pros: "A "spring break" atmosphere on the island's east beaches"
[b]Cons: "The largest concentration of aggressive prostitutes in all of China"[/b]
In A Nutshell: "Shangchuan has something for everyone in search of beaches, parties, and religion"
[QUOTE=Weelock]Hi,
Something interesting that was noted in webpage in virtualtourist.com.
"Most people outside of China never heard of Shangchuan. It is where young Chinese adults go to play. The island is big enough that it's still possible to find beautiful remote areas to get away from the wild parties, especially on the idyllic northwest part of the island where this serene scene is seen".
Pros: "A "spring break" atmosphere on the island's east beaches"
[b]Cons: "The largest concentration of aggressive prostitutes in all of China"[/b]
In A Nutshell: "Shangchuan has something for everyone in search of beaches, parties, and religion"[/QUOTE]
to weelock
may be this is a secret mongering place that no one know , this island is
twice the size of hong kong , or may be curious dick and this guy from
virtual tourist is just bullshit us , just sound too good to be true.
fast eddie 48
I remember that many years back someone told me in Hong Kong that he has been on an island near Hong Kong by private boat partying. But I could never work out where that was. It is definitely worth a try.
guys, if you have info about zhongshan, please post it.
when i was in zhongshan about 2 months ago. here was what i found...
- fuhua hotel area.. a shopping area, but, i did not see any obvious working girls in the daytime when i visited. maybe they are here only at night, or i am stupid gwai-loh ?
- shangri-la hotel, a couple of working girls sitting in the lounge/lobby. they ask 1000 rmb for 1 hour... i'm gwai-loh and can only negotiate down to 800 rmb for all night (ok guys, kick me for paying too much). i have photos of 1 cutie nude in my room... afterward, she gave to me her cellphone and we shared some free time on a sunday for no money (visit to park, buy some drinks, lunch, then to my hotel for fun time).
- golden palace. be sure to go [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in the watercloset... you get a free back massage when doing it!
- new face club, near to golden palace.. some working girls here in the bar but most girls are out for a fun time. however, a working girl asked 1000 rmb (for 1-hour or all night, i forget). i said no and did not even bargain, because it was late at night and i am so very tired to perform.
- club dd disco. near to fuhua hotel and the kfc. 2/f. i saw a good number of girls.... but was there only a short time. i got onto the dance floor with 3 girls, but i was short on time and soon left.
- it club (???). 1 block from shangri-la hotel. not very busy, but i found a free girl there, she is 18yo, or at least i hope so. she spent 2 days with me and waiting for me in my hotel lobby in the evening. there are no beer girls in this place who approach you to buy their brand of beer.
- i found some other place when wandering very late at night (02:00am?). i think it is on on the far far east edge of zhongshan, on changjian lu road, between zhongshan wulu and sunwen donglu (this is just north of zimaling park. it is outdoor, drinking, food, and might be sex (i am not sure!?). everyone was staring at this gwai-loh because there never was a white guy coming to this place. beer was very cheap. i am not sure if girls/sex is available or not... but the 'walls' around this place have some doors and lanterns, and there is a small 'house' (about 30 feet x 10 feet, single story) that i saw people going into (men and women). the middle is a place where you get beer/food then sit around a garden-like area. waitresses will serve you at your table. beer was cheap, i think 13 rmb for 2 of the 24 oz beer. if someone knows of these places, please tell me if they have girls pay2play or not !!??? it was strange to me, and i don't want shit kicked by 30 chinese guys so i keep to my beer, but i am curious to ask the waitress for pay2play!
one note. i think drinking age in china is 15 years... so be careful in the bars/discos, because some girls 15/16/17 can be there, and might be trouble if something goes bad.
sorry, but i did not see a zhongshan forum. zhongshan is a little north of zhuhai, so hopefully it is ok to post here.
dar
Zhuhai has gotta be the best outcall mongering destination. Plenty of SWs and many very aggressive, right outside Holiday Inn on Jinshan Road. Everywhere you went, they were there, round-the-clock!
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]The best part was it was totally hosted and on the way back to Macau,It was fun to be able to use the APEC Diplomatic lane and clear Chinese immigration control in 3-4 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Yes APEC BTC is great,Because there's simply too many travellers these days,The vietnamese don't have APEC yet. They badly need it in HCM where 2 Immigration Officials sit at one counter, holding hands under the table, probably jerking off.Go with Premier Lane in KL, another sad Immigration story there, Too many Indonesians/Thais visitors to screen for visa-free access bona-fides.Otherwise Remember the 3-hours it takes to board a plane at the Nino Aquino Airport, godamn 911.
[QUOTE=Dar425]Guys, if you have info about Zhongshan, please post it.
When I was in Zhongshan about 2 months ago. Here was what I found...[/QUOTE]
Do you mean ZhongShan City (AKA Shiqi/ 石 岐 ), 45 Minutes north of Zhuhai? The cleanest and most organised city in the whole of China where drivers use turning lights when turning?
I was there a couple of month ago and I didn't see ANYTHING which came close to any P4P. No BBS, not massage places, nothing.
Dar. It's ok to post in the Zhuhai board as most people that go to Zhongshan actually get there from Zhuhai. Zhongshan is about a 1 hour drive away from Zhuhai. It has a lot of factories out there.
We should actually ask Jackson to add a Zhongshan section since many people visit the factories there.
[QUOTE=Dar425]Sorry, but I did not see a Zhongshan forum. Zhongshan is a little north of Zhuhai, so hopefully it is OK to post here.
Dar[/QUOTE]
I'd have to agree! I love the saunas in Zhuhai. Macau quality but cheaper! I hear that Dongguan is supposed to be really good too but I haven't had the time to go out there specifically for "fun".
[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]Zhuhai has gotta be the best outcall mongering destination. Plenty of SWs and many very aggressive, right outside Holiday Inn on Jinshan Road. Everywhere you went, they were there, round-the-clock![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tiger 1]I remember that many years back someone told me in Hong Kong that he has been on an island near Hong Kong by private boat partying. But I could never work out where that was. It is definitely worth a try.[/QUOTE]
to tiger
I have more info about shangchun and xi chuan dao near taisan thanks to
one of our new member that pm me .this place must be a secret place for
tawianese business man , not many people know about . make me want to
go check it out next time.
[url]http://www.taishan.com/english/tour/island.htm[/url]
fast eddie 48
I think you guys mean Ling Ding Island which is part of China outside of HK waters. Mongers used to go there by boat and you do not "officially" go thru immigration. Used to be popular with Hong Kong Chinese mongers but have not heard of of anyone going there for years.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to tiger
I have more info about shangchun and xi chuan dao near taisan thanks to
one of our new member that pm me .this place must be a secret place for
tawianese business man , not many people know about . make me want to
go check it out next time.
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Hi Fast Eddie,
I got the same anonymous PM from a new member. If it's the same member, I looked at his profile and he's NOT a new member since he joined 11-04-03, two years. I suggested he ( new member ) post the information he sent to me because he has ZERO post on ISG. Wonder why he doesn't post.
The island are about 90RMB to get there but it's about a 4-5 hr trip. A long trip from ZhuHai. The girls are 400 to 500 rmb for the day and that's from the afternoon starting noon to 10 AM or noon the next day. Have NOT heard from "curiousdick" who started this hunt for the two islands. Hopefully, it's NOT a wild goose chase.
Weelock
Thanks for all the information. I will definitely check that out next year and post about the result. Lets see. If it is a fake I'll let you know.
Tiger
Siron/etc,
I was in Zhongshan again just 3 days.
- Lan Kwai Fong (Bar Street). This is near to International hotel, but alongside the river. About 8 pubs/bars here, together. I recommend "Will Will" club. Mostly it is local girls looking for fun time. Try your luck here. I met a free girl, and she came to my hotel and she was so very drunk, enough drunk that we had a lot of fun then sleep, then in the morning we enjoy breakfast. Then, she must go to work.
- Near to International hotel, I am not exactly sure where. I saw about 30(? ) working girls standing together on a street about 2: 00am. They are waving at cars to attract business and being very loud. I did not stop because I have already the Lan Kwai Fong girl in my taxi. She told to me a warning. About many of these girls are 30+ years old, and many did some drugs (cocaine or needle/injection). NextdDay (KTV girl told me) the Police picked up about 30 girls during a clean up on that night. I do not know if they cleaned up these girls, or girls working in hotels.
- KTV. There is a KTV near to "Friends" bar. I found a northern girl working there. She is 20 years old, very good English. OK, you gwai-loh, here is how KTV works. You sit and drink. You want a girl to sit with you it is 200 RMB. You can touch her, talk with her. Her drinks are free (I think? I did not see on my bill for her drink! ? ). You pay for your own drinks (about 50 RMB for beer, do not drink a lot). If you like her, you can pay 600 RMB more and she can go to your hotel. Since it is 200 RMB to sit with the girl, it is 25% investment already. So you decide if 600 RMB more is worth it or not. Other girlfriend of hers working the same KTV. Interesting part of this story. We go to my hotel. She gets phone call from her friend saying more police are looking around this night and searching in hotels. She is so VERY nervous. So, we leave my hotel and go to her place. I bring only enough money (she wants 500 RMB only) to pay her and to pay for 2xTaxi. Her apartment is small, 8th floor of some building. We spend the night doing it 2 times, then 1 more time in the morning. Her friend/roommate stay away. Chatting in an Internet cafe all night. In the morning, the girl laundered my clothes. So, that afternoon we enjoy 2 hours of beer and relax and talking. This KTV girl is SOOOOOO small, I can almost not f*ck her! Sooooo VERY small/tiny! Wow! When f*cking her, I ask if she is OK, she says "Yes", so we continue f*cking, but she she is 'wincing' for each my thrusts, but insists I continue. Wow!
- Freelancers. In most hotel bars, discos are freelancers. I met a girl named Ling in "Club DD Disco". She is 31, so she told me. I offer 500 RMB for all night, she agree. We go to my hotel and enjoy 3 times playing hide-the-monkey. She must be pro. Because in my hotel, she did for me the Fire-Ice BBBJ for my 1st shot. Felt great. And she worked me for 20+ minutes doing Fire/Ice. Later we enjoyed 2 more times before she left about 10: 00am.
- When I was in a hotel bar, I heard a waitress say to 1 working girl, "Give to me your mobile number, I can call you on a good night". So, I wonder if some hotel bar waitress getting 'kickback' for allowing the working girls into their hotel bar? Interesting.
Next I go to Zhuhai. Zhuhai is MUCH MUCH better than Zhongshan! I will post my report about Zhuhai
OK, I arrive in Zhuhai very late at night. Check into my hotel about 24: 00, take a shower. I leave the hotel to do some walking (Yue Hai / Guangdong Regency hotel) and make 5 steps and some girls are saying "Hello. ". Working girls, and so cute! Whaaaaaa! Wo Ai ZhuHai! I choose 1 girl, she is 18yo, 200 RMB for short time. We go to my hotel and make a good friendship. : -) She asks me to pay +400 RMB more for all night (up to 12: 00). I said No, but she gives to me her mobile number. She's a really fun f*ck, so maybe I call her again. 18yo, BBBJ, CIM, really nice f*ck. Sorry, I did not make a photo of her.
Now it is about 1: 30am, and I am in ZhuHai less than 2 hours and already have a fan club in ZhuHai.
Next, I walk to "Jiu Bar Jie". This is just south of Grand Bay View hotel, about 12 bars. I walk a little farther north and find "V-Bar" Disco and enjoy some drinks. I see some girls are interesting, but I am tired and want only some beer, and it is 02: 00am.
Next morning, I wake up, leave my hotel. From the Guangdong Regency I walk South on Lian Hua Road about 2 blocks (walking towards Macao border). I found the GREEN/WHITE umbrella tables. It is 10: 00am, and I am enjoying a beer (they have excellent coffee also! ). The girls will approach you. In fact, you cannot swing a dead cat and not find a streetwalker! I'm Gwai-Loh, so most do not talk to me, but, they learn I can speak some Chinese, so now some are interested. They ask 200 RMB for 1 hour. I select a girl, she is 21 years old, REALLY cute. We go to my hotel and 2 hours pass by. BBBJ, CIM, and 1 time a 'facial'. She enjoyed me and stayed 2 hours and give to me her mobile number. She asked for 100 RMB more, but I gave her 50 RMB more. She and I walk back to the Umbrella area together. And then she is gossiping with the other girls about this Gwai-Loh.
OK. So, I am in Zhuhai less than 12 hour and already enjoy 3 f*ck with 2 girls.
Walk further south on that road, and found MORE umbrella tables. This one does not have working girls approaching customers. But it is OK. I simply want to enjoy some beer and coffee. I begin chatting with the girl working in this umbrella. Long story short, She and her girlfriend take me to a Sichuan restaurant. Of course I am paying. Total dinner is 90 RMB including excellent fish, pork, chicken for all of us. Next we take Taxi back to the same Umbrella where I met her. It is now about 9pm, so we said "bye bye". But, she says she is working the next day, but finish at 2pm. She says she can meet me at 2pm to go out drinking with me! I will meet her the next day and tell you the rest of the story.
OK, so 9pm, I said bye bye to the umbrella girl. Coming back to my hotel, 30+ girls said "Hello". I drink some beer, and feeling so very tired. But, also, I want to wake up in the morning with a Xiaojie. OK, I did the stupid thing. I find a girl and she is offering massage. I accept. 500 RMB for massage and 5 hours of her time. In my hotel, she gives really nice massage. Felt great. OK, here I am stupid. She says we agreed massage only but for 200 RMB more she will give FULL Service. I agree. Crap, 700 RMB for this girl. I think I paid too much. She is 21 years, very slim, pretty cute. Great massage, and we f*ck 2 times. But, her damn mobile keeps ringing and she's talking to some guy. Finally, after 3 hours I told her to leave so I can get some sleep. I think she wrote her mobile on some paper for me. Because I see 2 telephone numbers, but do not know who they are. Must be her.
Is it so common for these Lian Hua girls to share they mobile number?
Daytime, Nighttime, come to Lian Hua street, and enjoy your time! ZhuHai is wonderful!
Later today, I am meeting a umbrella girl at 2pm to start some drinking beer. I do not know if she will ask 200/500 RMB or simply wants to enjoy some drink and chat. I will tell you in my next report.
Dar
Hi Guys,
I will be at the Zobon Business Hotel in Zhuhai a few weeks for 2 nights. I have not seen one post on this place.
Anybody know of any Sauna's, KTV's , SW's in this hotel or very nearby?
MM
[QUOTE=Tiger 1]Thanks for all the information. I will definitely check that out next year and post about the result. Lets see. If it is a fake I'll let you know.
Tiger[/QUOTE]
After looking at the island's website, and doing some web surfing, like all tourist places, it’s a tourist trap. In other words, it's going to be expensive. Just for the hotels, are about 600-800RMB. It's a little expensive for an one week vacation in a resort for my blood.
Weelock
[QUOTE=M Monroe]Hi Guys,
I will be at the Zobon Business Hotel in Zhuhai a few weeks for 2 nights. I have not seen one post on this place.
Anybody know of any Sauna's, KTV's , SW's in this hotel or very nearby?
MM[/QUOTE]
The basement of the Zobon hotel has a private club which is a pretty amazing place. I once went to the VIP room. You will not believe this "suite": pool table, bar, large LCD TV with karaoke, disco-like seating area and 3 bedrooms to the side each with private bathrooms. The fees for the girls is probably also tops for Zhuhai: 1,000 RMB for each. The manager told me they also have smaller rooms for individuals. The club is supposedly "private" but I assume that if you are a hotel guest, they should let you in. This club is ran by the same people who own the sauna at YiJing Wan hotel.
Stayed in Zhuhai a few weeks ago for about 1 week.
- No SWs infront on the Regency.
- LinHua Lu sometimes dead for hours, coz lots of policeman. Most of the time i saw about every 20 minutes a police motorbike driving up and down the street
- Not 100-200 SWs working there, like someone wrote. I would say about 50.
- Didnt find the place to sit down with green umbrellas.
- action is till the morning
I stayed in the ChangAn Hotel (220 RMB a night) and got my room facing the street and the action. (i asked for a room facing the street ;-))
Even police give the girls a hard time business is good for the girls, saw lots of mongers. I had one chick after she left i checked my condom and there was a lot of black dirt on the rubber. The kind of dirt that happens when skin rubs together. Never had that before in China. I wouldnt play bare there.
Price is still 200 RMB even if the first quote you 300 or 400.
The 2 main spots in LinHua Lu are infront of the ChangAn Hotel and infront of LinHua Hotel.
One time i looked down the window and saw a few 6-year old children playing. About 12 hookers standing on the street. A second later Police was approaching and all the hookers were running upstairs to the internet cafe to hide. I looked at my watch and it was 2 o clock in the night - thats China.
I also got the security calls to my hotel room after the girl left. They just want to know if everything is alright. Only in chinese language.
I also noticed that chinese mongers often haggle about 10-15 minutes on the street before the take a girl - picky. Now i see why some hookers prefer foreigners.
Well, i have to say not my favorite mongering spot in China, but kinda funny.
1. - no chicks on the street until the policeman left
2. - 3 chicks standing
3. - sit down on on a bench :)
[QUOTE=Chop Sticks]Stayed in Zhuhai a few weeks ago for about 1 week.
- No SWs infront on the Regency.
- LinHua Lu sometimes dead for hours, coz lots of policeman. Most of the time i saw about every 20 minutes a police motorbike driving up and down the street
- Not 100-200 SWs working there, like someone wrote. I would say about 50.
- Didnt find the place to sit down with green umbrellas.
- action is till the morning
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[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Surprised you didn't see the 10 to 15 small square green umbrella cafes for drinks.They are ALL lined up in a road in front of stores. They must have removed them. There are even a few by the large Disco on LinHua Lu.
When I was there, two different times, I would order cold drinks and check out the action. It was very nice sitting especially when the weather was so damm hot, girls would come up to you asking. Then sometimes little KIDS would come begging for money. Be careful, I saw one guy giving money to a little girl and within a few seconds five-six came at him.
You are corrected it's NOT around 200. But when I was there two times, I saw about 70-80 girls. A lot of them too too young. I'm counting both on LinHua Lu that's blocked off to traffic, and a few blocks north of LinHua Lu. North of LinHua Lu, the girls would stop cars and hop in. This was happening about 3-4am but that was in July 2004 and May of 2005. I guess things changed from 5 months ago.
Weelock
PS. I just read monger "Dar425" report 11-05-05. Therefore, the green umbrella cafes are still there.
[QUOTE=Dar425]
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Walk further south on that road, and found MORE umbrella tables. This one does not have working girls approaching customers. But it is OK. I simply want to enjoy some beer and coffee. I begin chatting with the girl working in this umbrella. Long story short, She and her girlfriend take me to a Sichuan restaurant. Of course I am paying. Total dinner is 90 RMB including excellent fish, pork, chicken for all of us. Next we take Taxi back to the same Umbrella where I met her. It is now about 9pm, so we said "bye bye". But, she says she is working the next day, but finish at 2pm. She says she can meet me at 2pm to go out drinking with me! I will meet her the next day and tell you the rest of the story.
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Hope it's not the same two umbrella girls that took me to a resturant also. As I recall, these two girls were working at either the 1st or 2nd umbrella place facing north. In other words, the unbrella places are on the right side of the street and 1st or 2nd unbrella drink place. I sat at their place because there were the pretties worker.
Try to get a picture of them for me.
Thanks,
Weelock
I remember the disco in LinHua Lu and the "open-air" Bars infront of it. But i didnt see green umbrellas.
Do you know the name of the Road North of LinHua Lu you mentioned ? Next time i want to check out.
I recently have had a tour group from Zhuhai here in the Philippines and The whole group of 60 people were staying on the Burgos redlight district street in Makati,Philippines.The majority of them dont speak a word of English.So you can imagine some of the sign language the Chinese guys are going through trying to pick up women.It is almost as hilarous as watching Western guys in Zhuhai trying to pick up none english speaking chinese women.My female cantonese speaking guide is almost scandalized having to translate for them.example "Tell her that she is expensive" Girl answers" Then go buy sex in China",Guys says please tell her I need Philippine Pussy to compare",Girl answers a certain price and so on.Imagine doing negotiation for dozens of Chinese guys at the same time.Yes to all the none chinese speaking mongers who went to Zhuhai.Turnabout is fair play
[QUOTE=Chop Sticks]I remember the disco in LinHua Lu and the "open-air" Bars infront of it. But i didnt see green umbrellas.
Do you know the name of the Road North of LinHua Lu you mentioned ? Next time i want to check out.[/QUOTE]
I saw your pictures of LinHua Lu. This area (street) is block off to traffic, corrected road. If you go straight north on LinHua Lu, about 1 to 2 blocks, where cars are ALLOWED to go thru, this is the area late at night. Each group of girls would have their own stake on the blocks.
There are also some 4-5 small BBS around the side alleys of LinHua Lu. It's around the same area that you took your pictures. I don't advise going at night alone since the area is so dark.
As of a few days ago the green/white square umbrellas are on LianHua Road. And, there are Red/White(?) umbrellas across from the Disco (but only 4 such umbrellas). And, the girls are very much active.
A note about "Yesterday" Disco. It was difficult to find. But it is 100-200 meters north of Yindo Hotel on YingBin Nan Road. It's a very nice disco.
Also, I found "Shui Wan" bar/club area... Cohiba restaurant is here, and MANY green Heineken signs. Is "Shui Wan" the same as "Jiu Jie"?
Just north of Shui Wan area is "LV Bar", upscale nightclub/disco. I saw some girls sitting at the bar, I think for hire, but I did not talk to them. Most of the girls here seem older, like 25+ years old, compared to the 17-20yo on LianHua
Some guy asked about the 2 girls I went to dinner with. I forget the 2 girls name, but they are about 20yo. I think 1 girl said her name is "Au Ping" or "Au Poh" or something like that.
My favorite girl in ZhuHai was named Xiao Hui, an 18yo from Guangzhou (her story to me). She was REALLY fun and even now I still think about her. I gave her a special gift before I said good-bye. If you guys meet her, please be kindly to her.
Dar
Will anyone be in Zhuhai on 24th and 25th and want to meet up to party? I've never been there before and like to check it out. Will be arriving from San Francisco late 24th around 9pm or so.
Thanks!
Headed for Zhuhai on Tuesday and will be there until friday,It is a pity that some of my friends will be down in SEA Asia.I am a guest of the Zhuhai Travel industry so I guess I will be in good hands.Will post an FR as soon as i get back
Be cautious in Yesterdays Disco. A lot of drug sniffing cowboys hanging out there.
Cautious but not paranoid. Have fun.
Dear Fellow memebers,
I will arrive Macao airport 3am in the morning. This is my first time in Macao. Please advise how to across the border and enter Zuhai. I heard that the both immigrations close at midnight 2400, actually what is the operation time schedule.
Your reply is very much appreciated.
Best regards,
Orentalover
[QUOTE=Orientalover]Dear Fellow memebers,
I will arrive Macao airport 3am in the morning. This is my first time in Macao. Please advise how to across the border and enter Zuhai. I heard that the both immigrations close at midnight 2400, actually what is the operation time schedule.
Your reply is very much appreciated.
Best regards,
Orentalover[/QUOTE]
to orientalover
I think is 6.00am to midnight , just head to one of the casino and spend 3
hr or go to a sauna to shower and get a massage and most sauna have bed
that you can sleep over .
fast eddie 48
Dear Fast Eddie 48,
Thanks for your reply.
Which sauna you recommmend? Please provide details. Best regards,
Orientalover
I heard that the border open at 7am. Can anyone confirm it.
Fast Eddie 48, which sauna parlour you can recommmended?
[QUOTE=Orientalover]Dear Fast Eddie 48,
Thanks for your reply.
Which sauna you recommmend? Please provide details. Best regards,
Orientalover[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chineselove]I heard that the border open at 7am. Can anyone confirm it.
Fast Eddie 48, which sauna parlour you can recommmended?[/QUOTE]
Sorry I don't know what time the border opens. My opinion on sauna, the best but the most expensive is Darling for 90 mins.
For more sauna information, suggest reading the Macau thread. I believe most sauna close at 3-4am but a few are opened 24 hrs. It doesn't leave you much time since your plane arrives at 3am and then there's customs. Then you might have a problem lugging your bags around if you are NOT planning to stay at a hotel in Macau. Most sauna lockers are too small for bags. There are about the size you will find in a high school gym. I pretty sure the sauna will watch your bags while using their place.
Weelock
I am pretty sure border opens at 6 AM.
As for your luggage any of the Casino bellhops will happily store it for you till you come back to claim it.
All the casinoes are open 24 hours. I also believe Massage Parlor at Lisboa is open 24 hours.
If your plane lands at 3 AM, Taxi to the casino will take approx 15 min.
Further you can easily spend couple of hours playing $10 black jack. If you are not a gambler go to casino coffee shops hang around there for an hour. I am sure in Lisboa you will get lot of offers from the many Chinese women who stay and work there. That early in the morning you probably can negotiate down to $300 hong kong for an hour of fun. Who knows ,she might let you stay the night. But make sure you carry only enough money with you. These girls cannot be trusted like Thai girls.
It takes almost an hour to the border.
[QUOTE=Orientalover]Dear Fellow memebers,
I will arrive Macao airport 3am in the morning. This is my first time in Macao. Please advise how to across the border and enter Zuhai. I heard that the both immigrations close at midnight 2400, actually what is the operation time schedule.
Your reply is very much appreciated.
Best regards,
Orentalover[/QUOTE]I just came back from a trip to Shenzen and Zhuhai to close my exclusive partnership agreement with Zhuhai CTS.The border opens at 7Am and closes at 12 Midnight.I have tour groups moving into and from Macau regularly.Might I suggest killing time in a Macau Sauna.With regards to the sex islands south of Macau,I can confirm their existance first hand,Zhuhai CTS sends groups of Taiwanese and Malaysian Chinese men to them regularly.There are about 3,000 women on the island and rate is 300RMB LT,I will be offering a trip to those islands as an optional tour on my Zhuhai packages.
[QUOTE=Chineselove]I heard that the border open at 7am. Can anyone confirm it.
Fast Eddie 48, which sauna parlour you can recommmended?[/QUOTE]I asked that question from the PSB officer at Gongbei border crossing this morning.I had a tour group of travel agents that wanted to cross to Macau earlier but had to wait until 7am
[QUOTE=Sammon]I am pretty sure border opens at 6 AM.
It takes almost an hour to the border.[/QUOTE]My group was at the border at 630 am this morning and it was CLOSED.Travel time from Macau Airport to border by taxi took 10 minutes last tuesday afternoon.My group took 15 minutes by bus,the group that arrived this morning also took 15 minutes to get to the border.
[QUOTE=Orientalover]Dear Fast Eddie 48,
Thanks for your reply.
Which sauna you recommmend? Please provide details. Best regards,
Orientalover[/QUOTE]
Go to 18 Sauna in Golden Dragon Casino. They can watch your bags, you can use the sauna, eat, watch movies, nap in the lounge chairs, watch hourly lineups and get serviced if you want to. On the weekends it can get really crowded. Darling has a great lineup, but no sauna to hang out in.
arrived on tuesday via air macau and went immediately to the border.our group was met by cts people who had a van waiting to take us straight to the border.i was with 4 of my staff to finalize a deal to be their agent for cebu and southern philippines .after a series of meetings,we finally finished at 9pm and started to look for action outside the 4 star hotel owned by cts.a couple of clearly ****d girls approached,but for ethical reasons i passed.i do not do 15 year olds,but i was shocked that there were even 13-14 year olds offering themselves.finally to play safe,i opted to use the inhouse sauna and got a 6-7 girl who spoke some english for 150 to the house and 200 for the girl who was clearly at least 20-21.i have personal issues with ****philia and am personally very opposed to it.
the following day,we went to shenzen for a meeting with shenzen cts to finalize a trip in febraury where we invited a delegation to visit boracay and cebu after chinese year next year.i got real friendly with one of the english tour guides and to make a long story short invited her to also go,airfare,hotel and all meals for free.i found her entertaining because one of her best friends was a filipina working in shenzen and she was learning filipino which i also speak.we had dinner and she spent the night "expressing" her thanks for the trip to the philippines.looks 7-8,gfe 8-9,skills 5-6.remember this was a none pro.i will defenitely be in touch with this one.
the next day we returned to zhuhai for a marathon series of meetings from 10am to 5pm.but i availed of the in house service again that night and got another in-house girl.she must have been tipped of by her boss that i was a guest of cts,because she told me that she was ordered to make sure i was very happy.she wanted to become my "china friend"which i politely declined.she was a 7-8,skills 8-9,gfe8-9.i was defenitely very happy.150 rmb to the house,which they returned,so i gave her 350 rmb for great service as a tip.it is nice to be a favored guest indeed.to show my appreciation i invited the cts manager to be my guest in the philippines in boracay this january.i was really treated well,fully hosted hotel,meals,full time van with driver and escort.so i thought it was about fair.the following day,we returned to the philippines via macau
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]I just came back from a trip to Shenzen and Zhuhai to close my exclusive partnership agreement with Zhuhai CTS.The border opens at 7Am and closes at 12 Midnight.I have tour groups moving into and from Macau regularly.Might I suggest killing time in a Macau Sauna.With regards to the sex islands south of Macau,I can confirm their existance first hand,Zhuhai CTS sends groups of Taiwanese and Malaysian Chinese men to them regularly.There are about 3,000 women on the island and rate is 300RMB LT,I will be offering a trip to those islands as an optional tour on my Zhuhai packages.[/QUOTE]
to CEBU LOCAL
The island near zhu hai is called shanchuan dao , dao in chinese is island
is this the same island , this island resorts is very new not too many info
about this place most girl is from zhu hai and gunagzhou area , because
of the japenese orgy and the crack down they move to this island , mainly
promo to taiwanese and hong konger , very low profile not to draw attention
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to CEBU LOCAL
The island near zhu hai is called shanchuan dao , dao in chinese is island
is this the same island , this island resorts is very new not too many info
about this place most girl is from zhu hai and gunagzhou area , because
of the japenese orgy and the crack down they move to this island , mainly
promo to taiwanese and hong konger , very low profile not to draw attention
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]Fast Eddie
Thanks,So I guess this island is some sort of SEZ,Sex Entertainers Zone,It is possibile that the goverment is trying to organize and restrict the sex trade to this island.I was asked point blank if I could bring groups to this island.Best Regards and Thanks CL
I went to the Richmond Hill Health Centre couple days ago and the security guard told me the facility is closed for renovation. Anybody knows what happened since I was there only couple weeks ago and no one even mentioned about that. It got busted or what?
Anyway, any other good fun sauna places in zhuhai worthwhile to explore? I like the services over the Richmond Hill since they offered Macau style service with lower damages (of course the girls are better in Macau).
Chin1970
Been asking the below question on many boards - and it was Cebu Local of our ISG board who gave me the lead. Many thanks Cebu Local.
/////////
Holding a Canadian passport but resident of Hong Kong, I have a 3 year multiple entry visa to China. Unfortunately though, every time I arrive/depart China, I get one more stamp on my passport which have now practically covered my whole passport/am running out of pages.
Last time I crossed Zhuhai, I happened to follow another Canadian passport holder who had a SEPARATE piece of paper that the PRC immigration used to put his stamp on - because his pasport was also getting full of these PRC stamps.
This Canadian told me that he got this piece of paper from some PRC government department – NOT from Canada. Unfortunately, I didn’t really catch the proper name of the PRC government department/shop and have up to now not been able to buy one of these pieces of paper.
Does anybody here know where I can get this? /////
I've used Cebu Locals' lead and found out that basically one gets this piece of paper when crossing over to Zhuhai from Macau (as so many Macau residents travel into Zhuhai multiple times). When crossing, I would need to go to the 2nd floor and obtain this paper from the immigration/visa office there. The fone number where I got this information from is 86-756-815-6512 (I finally got this number after calling 6 different numbers - incredible!!).
Unfortunately, I've been quite busy these days and not yet able to go to Macau - and then cross over the Zhuhai just to get this paper YET. Wondering if anybody here knows anything more about this matter/can advise how correct my info is? Also, as far as I know, I can then use this paper not only in Zhuhai, but also at other border crossings into China
Many thanks
SEAsia Joe
P.s. my apologies for duplicating this question on the General Info board also
I have been to the shanchuan dao(island) once before. It was a whole ago. I got there by boat, I got onto the boat from TaiShan. I think you have to speak chinese to get something going there. Yea, there is a famous beach there, that all people live in taishan know about. My family is from taishan, and everyone know about that place. If you want to go there, and you don't speak much chinese or taishanese, you will have a better change if you can get some taishan people to help you. Try to go to TaiCheng, which is the capital city for taishan, and there you can found a lot of resource about the shanchuan dao(island) and how to get there. The other way you can learn more about it is to go to Hong Kong, and research on it. When I was over at Hong Kong this summer, I did ran into some people who know about those island.
This is the best place I've been to in Zhuhai.
I took a brochure home so I could write the address down for you guys:
The Club of Zhuhai Holiday Resort Hotel (aka the Holiday Resort Health Center)
Shihua Mountain,
Zhuhai China
Tel: 333.3838 x251 or x252
If you take a taxi there, the club is separate from the hotel. The club is inside the resort near the back... appx a 1-2 minute cab ride from the front door of the resort. They also have free shuttles at the front of the hotel to take you there if you don't want to cab it in.
I'd say this place is nicer than the Macau places. If you like Chinese girls, just come here and don't bother with Macau. If you want the international flava... then go to Macau.
Trust me... you won't be disappointed here. 888 RMB for the smaller room including 10/10 service from a 9-10/10 girl.
If you ask the manager nicely, you can even stay the night for that price (888 RMB). That means you get to have fun and pass out on the bed too! :-) Don't forget to tell them what time they need to wake you up in the morning!
My info on the girl:
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=410032&postcount=3181[/url]
My picture of the sample:
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=32063[/url]
[QUOTE=Chin1970]I went to the Richmond Hill Health Centre couple days ago and the security guard told me the facility is closed for renovation. Anybody knows what happened since I was there only couple weeks ago and no one even mentioned about that. It got busted or what?
Anyway, any other good fun sauna places in zhuhai worthwhile to explore? I like the services over the Richmond Hill since they offered Macau style service with lower damages (of course the girls are better in Macau).
Chin1970[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Been asking the below question on many boards - and it was Cebu Local of our ISG board who gave me the lead. Many thanks Cebu Local.
/////////
Holding a Canadian passport but resident of Hong Kong, I have a 3 year multiple entry visa to China. Unfortunately though, every time I arrive/depart China, I get one more stamp on my passport which have now practically covered my whole passport/am running out of pages.
Last time I crossed Zhuhai, I happened to follow another Canadian passport holder who had a SEPARATE piece of paper that the PRC immigration used to put his stamp on - because his pasport was also getting full of these PRC stamps.
This Canadian told me that he got this piece of paper from some PRC government department – NOT from Canada. Unfortunately, I didn’t really catch the proper name of the PRC government department/shop and have up to now not been able to buy one of these pieces of paper.
Does anybody here know where I can get this? /////
I've used Cebu Locals' lead and found out that basically one gets this piece of paper when crossing over to Zhuhai from Macau (as so many Macau residents travel into Zhuhai multiple times). When crossing, I would need to go to the 2nd floor and obtain this paper from the immigration/visa office there. The fone number where I got this information from is 86-756-815-6512 (I finally got this number after calling 6 different numbers - incredible!!).
Unfortunately, I've been quite busy these days and not yet able to go to Macau - and then cross over the Zhuhai just to get this paper YET. Wondering if anybody here knows anything more about this matter/can advise how correct my info is? Also, as far as I know, I can then use this paper not only in Zhuhai, but also at other border crossings into China
Many thanks
SEAsia Joe
P.s. my apologies for duplicating this question on the General Info board also[/QUOTE]
Hi I just got back from Macau and Zhuhai,touched based with some fellow ISG mongers,Yes I now have 2 pieces of the Special paper thanks to the tip of SEA Joe,The special paper is also apparently available also in Shenzen but harder to get.Yes I am also a Canadian Passport holder and SEA Joe is correct.I cannot only answer how fast you can get it,because in my case I was escorted by a manager of CTS Zhuhai who went directly to the boss of the visa office and it took me 10 minutes to get the paper.
Many thanks Cebu Local - you truly exemplify what this board is all about/should be - reporting your adventures, sharing info and caring about others.
Can you also advise:
1. How exactly do you get up to the 2nd floor? Is it after you've crossed the Macau immigration, after the walk across and BEFORE you actually join the queue for the PRC immigration? Where's the staircase up?
2. When you've had a chance, if you can use this paper at other China border entry points
Again many thanks/regards
SE Asia Joe
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Many thanks Cebu Local - you truly exemplify what this board is all about/should be - reporting your adventures, sharing info and caring about others.
Can you also advise:
1. How exactly do you get up to the 2nd floor? Is it after you've crossed the Macau immigration, after the walk across and BEFORE you actually join the queue for the PRC immigration? Where's the staircase up?
2. When you've had a chance, if you can use this paper at other China border entry points
Again many thanks/regards
SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]
Hi SEA Joe
I met my contact at the CTS office at the side,then He escorted me up through a door in the side into a big office upstairs,then I was brought into a conference room where I was intoduced to a person who assisted me inm getting the paper,Regarding the use of the paper outside Zhuhai and Shenzen,I will let you know how it goes.The way I went was past the immigration check on the China side.Hope this helps CL
Hi bro's
Any advice the short way from hong kong to zhu hai how long is the trip?
Is english enough to bargain the price with the girls? to be setteled there?
What visa I need? chinees? can I get visa on the border?
I want to go there sunday.
ESSI
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Many thanks Cebu Local - you truly exemplify what this board is all about/should be - reporting your adventures, sharing info and caring about others.
Can you also advise:
1. How exactly do you get up to the 2nd floor? Is it after you've crossed the Macau immigration, after the walk across and BEFORE you actually join the queue for the PRC immigration? Where's the staircase up?
2. When you've had a chance, if you can use this paper at other China border entry points
Again many thanks/regards
SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]
SE Asia Joe
If you are HK resident, can't you just use your SARS ID card and dispense with the visa...obviously that means you're going in as SARS and not Canadian.
But if PRC wanted to 'nail' you, doesn't matter what passport you hold if you're Chinese 'national'...IMHO
most speak only chinese
[QUOTE=Essi]Hi bro's
Any advice the short way from hong kong to zhu hai how long is the trip?
Is english enough to bargain the price with the girls? to be setteled there?
What visa I need? chinees? can I get visa on the border?
I want to go there sunday.
ESSI[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Essi]Hi bro's
Any advice the short way from hong kong to zhu hai how long is the trip?
Is english enough to bargain the price with the girls? to be setteled there?
What visa I need? chinees? can I get visa on the border?
I want to go there sunday.
ESSI[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure about the shortest way, but the funnest way is to take ferry to Macau, then taxi to the border. You should know some basic Chinese to have an easier experience. You can practice on the girls in the lobby of the Lisboa Hotel in Macau, and once you can easily get the service you want for 500RMB, cross the border and lower your offer to 200RMB. You can get a Chinese visa in HK, and can get rush same day processing.
[QUOTE=Essi]Hi bro's
Any advice the short way from hong kong to zhu hai how long is the trip?
Is english enough to bargain the price with the girls? to be setteled there?
What visa I need? chinees? can I get visa on the border?
I want to go there sunday.
ESSI[/QUOTE]
You need to take a ferry boat directly to Zhuhai. It's the same two terminals used to get to Macau. In Tsim Sha Tsui, its China Ferry Terminal. Then in Sheung Wan, its Macau Ferry Terminal. You have to go up to the second floor to get your ticket for one of them. The travel time is about 50-60 minutes. Problem, depending on where you want to go, you have to take a cab because the boat will drop you off in the middle of nowhere. I happened to pass the pier site seeing at Zhuhai. There are NO hotels or commerical areas nearby. Some hotels will offer free transportion to and from the pier. I'm NOT exactly sure but I think Holiday Inn offers free transportion. I went there for lunch and saw a sign by the bell boy.
Depending what country/planet you are from, you might need a visa at the border to China. I believe most of this information is on Macau and Zhuhai threads. You can also find infor for maps and hotels suggestions.
For ENGLISH, NO, but it would be a lot better to know some Chinese. In Zhuhai, it's NOT like Hong Kong where almost everything is in BOTH English and Chinese. Sorry, It be very hard to find someone who knows reasonable English.
See link for map of Hong Kong and Zhuhai Area.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=30565[/url]
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Hi SEA Joe
I met my contact at the CTS office at the side,then He escorted me up through a door in the side into a big office upstairs,then I was brought into a conference room where I was intoduced to a person who assisted me inm getting the paper,Regarding the use of the paper outside Zhuhai and Shenzen,I will let you know how it goes.The way I went was past the immigration check on the China side.Hope this helps CL[/QUOTE]
Again thanks Cebu Local - and I apologize for being a bit thick - but I still don't know when/where I should go up to the 2nd floor. I presume you mean you met your CTS contact when first going into Zhuhai - but did you meet him at 'the No-man's zone" (in between the 2 borders) and he took you up before you actually crossed over the China Immigration - and thus by doing so you had actually foregone the regular immigration checks at the usual immigration posts?
To Traveller 1234
The ID card you asked about is actually a "Home Return Permit" which is issued by the PRC government and NOT a HK ID card. I use the HKID when I cross the Hong Kong Immigration. I do not have/am not eligible to apply for a Home Return Permit.
On Consular protection, since I do not have a home return permit and entered the PRC as a Canadian, I believe that I am afforded such protection by both the PRC as well as Canadian governments. If I entered the PRC using a home return permit - even if I hold any other country's passport/nationality - I know for sure that I would not be entitled to any consular protection. At least that's what I've been given to understand
SE Asia Joe
Hi
Thanks for your reply and INFO.
Ye I need a visa for china.
Can I do visa on the boarder because it's a special zone? how much is it?
ESSI
There is also a bus opposite the pier to Zhuhai center. But its not a shuttle bus, a normal bus.
[QUOTE=Weelock]You need to take a ferry boat directly to Zhuhai. It's the same two terminals used to get to Macau. In Tsim Sha Tsui, its China Ferry Terminal. Then in Sheung Wan, its Macau Ferry Terminal. You have to go up to the second floor to get your ticket for one of them. The travel time is about 50-60 minutes. Problem, depending on where you want to go, you have to take a cab because the boat will drop you off in the middle of nowhere. I happened to pass the pier site seeing at Zhuhai. There are NO hotels or commerical areas nearby. Some hotels will offer free transportion to and from the pier. I'm NOT exactly sure but I think Holiday Inn offers free transportion. I went there for lunch and saw a sign by the bell boy.
Depending what country/planet you are from, you might need a visa at the border to China. I believe most of this information is on Macau and Zhuhai threads. You can also find infor for maps and hotels suggestions.
For ENGLISH, NO, but it would be a lot better to know some Chinese. In Zhuhai, it's NOT like Hong Kong where almost everything is in BOTH English and Chinese. Sorry, It be very hard to find someone who knows reasonable English.
See link for map of Hong Kong and Zhuhai Area.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=30565[/url][/QUOTE]
Hi
I just got an INFO from china visa general agency tell 852-23693188 and they inform me that I can get a visa on boarder but I have to take the ferry to ju jo which I dn't know what is mean is it far from the real action in zhu hai? how I can get there?
ESSI
[QUOTE=Essi]Hi
Thanks for your reply and INFO.
Ye I need a visa for china.
Can I do visa on the boarder because it's a special zone? how much is it?
ESSI[/QUOTE]
A visa, depends on what [b]COUNTRY/PLANET[/b] your are from and for price.
Sorry, can't help you with visa questions each place is different. For the USA everything changed because of 911 ( sep 11 ). I recall something like the USA was making it hard for Chinese citizens to get visa. In return China, made it harder for USA citizens. If it's your first time in China, and you can't speak the language, traveling willing will be very very difficult but NOT impossible. You did asked about English.
A normal tourist visa from the Chinese Embassy in the USA is $50USD. Since you are in HK, don't know. Again, suggest doing a search for info on visa, hotels and maps in ISG/WSG.
Weelock
[QUOTE=Essi]Hi
I just got an INFO from china visa general agency tell 852-23693188 and they inform me that I can get a visa on boarder but I have to take the ferry to ju jo which I dn't know what is mean is it far from the real action in zhu hai? how I can get there?
ESSI[/QUOTE]
"ju jo", I'm guessing it might be Jiuzhou. I'm NOT 100% sure if there are the same. For Jiuzhou, it is the name of the pier / harbour / customs port for ferry boats to and from Zhuhai.
It depends on what action you are after, SW, Saunas etc? Again you need to read the past reports for maps and info on action.
Weelock
[QUOTE=Essi]Hi
Thanks for your reply and INFO.
Ye I need a visa for china.
Can I do visa on the boarder because it's a special zone? how much is it?
ESSI[/QUOTE]
HI Essi,
Since you are in HK, if not mistaken do go border for visa, just try :-
The Chinese Consulate on Glousester road in Wan Chai in the China Resourse Building.
open between 9 to 12, and 2 to 5pm. I think US passports cost more. Within 3 to 4 hours you can collect your passport back. Dont try any travel agencies in HK for China's visa, you have a chance to lost your passport.
[QUOTE=Essi]Hi
I just got an INFO from china visa general agency tell 852-23693188 and they inform me that I can get a visa on boarder but I have to take the ferry to ju jo which I dn't know what is mean is it far from the real action in zhu hai? how I can get there?
ESSI[/QUOTE]
to essi
I never heard of this , it might be something new , i will go to the china travel
service in hong kong and ask before you go to the border just in case is a
miss communications . as far as i know china no longer offer visa at the border any more .
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to essi
I never heard of this , it might be something new , i will go to the china travel
service in hong kong and ask before you go to the border just in case is a
miss communications . as far as i know china no longer offer visa at the border any more .
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]IN Zhuhai,My 2 companions got their visa at the border less then 2 weeks ago on December 29 at 10 Am and they took 30 minutes to finish.Zhuhai is not as strict as Shenzen.
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]IN Zhuhai,My 2 companions got their visa at the border less then 2 weeks ago on December 29 at 10 Am and they took 30 minutes to finish.Zhuhai is not as strict as Shenzen.[/QUOTE]
to CL
What is the cost now and which country is your friend from , i know a yr ago
it can't be done if you are US citizen so thing change . have not keep up
beacuse i don,t need visa any more to enter china .
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to CL
What is the cost now and which country is your friend from , i know a yr ago
it can't be done if you are US citizen so thing change . have not keep up
beacuse i don,t need visa any more to enter china .
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]Yes,It is different if you are American.The Nationalities were German and Filipina.I think the German paid like 120 MOP and his Filipina Girlfriend paid about 100 MOP.Funny how prices vary.American I dont know unforunately.Best Regards
Anyone have any reports on this hotel? Would appreciate if any of the vets coudl PM me with their experiences with the rooms and/or action. I'm thinking of changing my base of operations in Zhuhai. I prefer 5 star hotels, and have used both Harbor View Hotel, and International Conference Center.
Thanks in advance guys.
'lad
Try Holiday Inn Hotel in ZhuHai. The hotel is excellent, rooms are very clean, spacious and nice. There is a KTV and also a Sauna (massage and FJ) in teh building with the hotel..
Stayed there few occasions..
[QUOTE=Legal Lad]Anyone have any reports on this hotel? Would appreciate if any of the vets coudl PM me with their experiences with the rooms and/or action. I'm thinking of changing my base of operations in Zhuhai. I prefer 5 star hotels, and have used both Harbor View Hotel, and International Conference Center.
Thanks in advance guys.
'lad[/QUOTE]
Well, i got caught with this when i left ZhuHai for HK enroute to Taipei, came back to HK and had to apply for my China Multiple visa before enter ZhuHai. This was jsut a temporary 2 weeks problem due to US President visit to China. So all entry points were strict. My big bag was checked and x-rayes and asked to open as they could not figure what i had inside. too much wires, electronic stuff as i was on work assignment. Somemore they saw i was from Malaysia !! Even when in Zhuhai i went with the china office HR to ZhuHai immigration to do a busines multiple entry visa, the officer said no issue of business visa for 1 week due to Bush visit !!
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]IN Zhuhai,My 2 companions got their visa at the border less then 2 weeks ago on December 29 at 10 Am and they took 30 minutes to finish.Zhuhai is not as strict as Shenzen.[/QUOTE]
You can use the travel agent (China Visa) located at the HKIA departure hall, cost HK800 for a US passport for multi entry visa for 6 months. 1 year was like HK1,200. Those are ok adn can be rusted. Takes about 4 hrs if you give in morning.
[QUOTE=Chineselove]HI Essi,
Since you are in HK, if not mistaken do go border for visa, just try :-
The Chinese Consulate on Glousester road in Wan Chai in the China Resourse Building.
open between 9 to 12, and 2 to 5pm. I think US passports cost more. Within 3 to 4 hours you can collect your passport back. Dont try any travel agencies in HK for China's visa, you have a chance to lost your passport.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wacko 04]Try Holiday Inn Hotel in ZhuHai. The hotel is excellent, rooms are very clean, spacious and nice. There is a KTV and also a Sauna (massage and FJ) in teh building with the hotel..
Stayed there few occasions..[/QUOTE]
Yes It is a nice hotel,But not as famous as the convention center for the 500 girl orgy.Currently Holiday Inn is the number 1 in town
[QUOTE=Essi]Hi bro's
Any advice the short way from hong kong to zhu hai how long is the trip?
Is english enough to bargain the price with the girls? to be setteled there?
What visa I need? chinees? can I get visa on the border?
I want to go there sunday.
ESSI[/QUOTE]ESSI,
I recommend you apply for the China tourist visa when you're in Hong Kong. You can visit a CTS agency to do it, or ask your hotel conceirge to get it for you. Turn around time is 4-8 hours, but of course you pay more money for faster turn-around time.
American's need a visa for China because after Sept 11 Terrorist attack, the USA began fingerprinting all foreigners entering USA. China disliked their citizens being fingerprinted, so China now requires USA citizens to PAY and WAIT for a visa (Canadian citizens do not need a visa to enter China).
For the streetgirls, you will find them very near to the Guangdong Regency hotel (Yue-Hai Hotel), on Lotus Road (LianHua Lu). Your best offer should be 200 RMB, not more. If you cannot speak Chinese you can use your mobile/cellphone and push "200" into your phone display. The girl will know what you mean and agree or push "300". If she pushes "300", then move onto the next girl.
There might be other places to find girls, cheaper in ZhuHai. Read the boards here.
The best way from HongKong/Zhuhai, my opinion is in Hong Kong go to Kowloon find the "Chu Kong Ferry" (CKS Ferry). Take the ferry boat to ZhuHai (Jiuzhou Port). Then, probably take a taxi near to the GongBei/Macao crossing, or tell the taxi "Yue-Hai Hotel" or "LianHua Lu". I think he will know what you mean. I think it's about 10 minutes taxi ride and less than 50 RMB (I cannot remember the cost) for taxi.
Dar
[QUOTE=Dar425]
(Canadian citizens do not need a visa to enter China).
Dar[/QUOTE]
That's news to me....
Can anyone confirm this?
This is from the Canadian Foreign Affairs orifice
[url]http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/report-en.asp?country=55000#8[/url]
Recently gone to China, I had to go get a visa from the Chinese Embassy in London. Not an arduous process, but nonetheless, a visa is required.
DAR425 is right in that visa requirements are usually borne out of a recipricol arrangement where if country A requires a visa from citizens of country B, then country B will request a visa from country A. This does not always hold true (i.e. Canada requires visas from mosts Eastern European nationals but not vice versa) but is a good rule of thumb.
[QUOTE=Diver69]That's news to me....
Can anyone confirm this?[/QUOTE]Yes,I can confirm WE CANADIANS require visas to China.But We can get it at the border unlike the Americans
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Yes,I can confirm WE CANADIANS require visas to China.But We can get it at the border unlike the Americans[/QUOTE]
I thought the visa issued at the border is only good for the SEZ? ie, you can't venture out of the Special Economic Zones with these visas?
Diver69
[QUOTE=Diver69]I thought the visa issued at the border is only good for the SEZ? ie, you can't venture out of the Special Economic Zones with these visas?
Diver69[/QUOTE]The Shenzen one is good only for 3 days in Shenzen,The Zhuhai one is good up to 3 days ANYWHERE in China.Thats Why I prefer Zhuhai But No longer a hassle,Since I have a multiple entry for myself
I went to the CTS (China travel service) in Macau and asked them if I, an american, needed a visa for the zhuhai area. They said yes. Then I asked them if an australian needed one. They said yes everyone nees one. So this makes me think that either they don't know or they want to sell a visa. By the way, they charge 1000 hkd for the visa for americans. I got one and went through the border. While going through I asked the chinese immigration officer if I needed a visa to just visit the zhuhai area. He said no. My recommendation for americans is to just try to go through without a visa and save yourself the 1000 hkd. If you get turned around. Oh well, check back into Macau and go get your visa.
[QUOTE=Seamanship]I went to the CTS (China travel service) in Macau and asked them if I, an american, needed a visa for the zhuhai area. They said yes. Then I asked them if an australian needed one. They said yes everyone nees one. So this makes me think that either they don't know or they want to sell a visa. By the way, they charge 1000 hkd for the visa for americans. I got one and went through the border. While going through I asked the chinese immigration officer if I needed a visa to just visit the zhuhai area. He said no. My recommendation for americans is to just try to go through without a visa and save yourself the 1000 hkd. If you get turned around. Oh well, check back into Macau and go get your visa.[/QUOTE]
To enter China (except SAR - Special Administrative Regions - Macau and Hong Kong) Everyone needs a Visa to enter China, except the following countries : from Singapore ,Brunei and Japan to visit China for up to 15 days for business, sightseeing, visiting relatives and friends or transit. Please refer to the follow web page by the Chinese Embassy. [url]http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/zgqz/t84248.htm[/url] (Scroll the the bottom of the page).
Also exceptions: Visas are not required of Citizens of the following countries, who transit through Pudong Airport or Hongqiao Airport of Shanghai, provided they hold valid passports, visas for the onward countries, final destination tickets and have booked seats, and stay in Shanghai for less than 48 hours : Republic of Korea, United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Austria, Greece.
If you try to enter China without a valid visa you will be charged with an attempt of illegaly entering China. I am not sure If you really want to risk this.
If you ask different people the same questions in Cina, even officials in charge, you are likely to get the same amount of different answers. Sometimes they may not even understand your question, but you may get an answer.
Tiger
[QUOTE=Tiger 1]If you try to enter China without a valid visa you will be charged with an attempt of illegaly entering China. I am not sure If you really want to risk this.
If you ask different people the same questions in Cina, even officials in charge, you are likely to get the same amount of different answers. Sometimes they may not even understand your question, but you may get an answer.
Tiger[/QUOTE]
Fully agree with Tiger. In China, you ask different person or officials the same question you get different answers. Even if you speak perfect Chinese.
The Embassy Website I posted provides the information on Visa requirements. If the information on the Embassy website is not trustable, I don't see why would any other sources be trustable.
If you arrive in Zhuhai without a visa, you leave on the next boat out or walk back to Macau depending on how you got there. You are not going to be charged or anything else! This is a regular occurence as is people who leave their home return permit or passport at home after leaving Hong Kong to travel to China.
[QUOTE=Tiger 1]If you try to enter China without a valid visa you will be charged with an attempt of illegaly entering China. I am not sure If you really want to risk this.
If you ask different people the same questions in Cina, even officials in charge, you are likely to get the same amount of different answers. Sometimes they may not even understand your question, but you may get an answer.
Tiger[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tiger 1]If you try to enter China without a valid visa you will be charged with an attempt of illegaly entering China. I am not sure If you really want to risk this.
If you ask different people the same questions in Cina, even officials in charge, you are likely to get the same amount of different answers. Sometimes they may not even understand your question, but you may get an answer.
Tiger[/QUOTE]
to tiger
I agree with you about getting different answer from agent at the border but
if you do not have a visa and do not know the visa law they can just reject
you to enter china , because the law change so fast it is better to get up to
date info from cts in hong kong or china consulate in your own country before
going to china to be safe.
fast eddie 48
NOT everyone need a visa!!!!!
Japan and Singapore passport holders do NOT need a visa to enter China.
All others need a visa (special regulations for HK, TW people apply though).
Note: if you appear on the border without visa you will be most likely not charged with illegal entry. Some border points sell visa, but not all.
I once took a ferry to Foshan, wanted to buy a visa on arrival, and they had not such service. No fine, but had to wait 4 hours for the next ferry.
[QUOTE=DayNight]NOT everyone need a visa!!!!!
Japan and Singapore passport holders do NOT need a visa to enter China.
All others need a visa (special regulations for HK, TW people apply though).
Note: if you appear on the border without visa you will be most likely not charged with illegal entry. Some border points sell visa, but not all.
I once took a ferry to Foshan, wanted to buy a visa on arrival, and they had not such service. No fine, but had to wait 4 hours for the next ferry.[/QUOTE]
I find it kind of strange why people do not like to read the information on the web page?
[url]http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/zgqz/t84248.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Japan Man]Does it occur to you that the boat is not the only way to arrive in Zhuhai? Assumptions is mother of all fuckup!
I am Japanese and hold a American Passport. 6 months ago I arrived in Zhuhai airport without a Visa. The Immigration officier told me I need a Visa to get into China and I am legally entering into China. They bring me to this small little room. I stay there for over 20 hours before I take the next flight out of Zhuhai. Let me tell you the 20 hours was the worst 20 hours I had in my life! They keep on coming into the room with different person asking you different questions like I am a criminal!
What the big deal? You want to try that?
Next time suggest something that has no risk or you should try it yourself first before asking others to take the risk![/QUOTE]
Woooh.... JM.... you never told me that before...??? But I am curious....
I do not know Zhuhai very well correct me if I am wrong....but I believe Zhuhai airport is not an International AIrport and thus there are no international Flights coming directly into Zhuhai. How on earth did you get into Zhuhai without clearing immigrations in International Airport in Cities like Beijing or Shanghai? Perhaps that is why they detained you and suspect you had legally entered in China? I am sorry but I am just saying what I know about Zhuhai...!
I travelled a lot and always, always check various sites and sources if u need a visa. I have travelled with my co-workers (who hold US passports) & sometimes one or two forget to get visa going into China and "pissed" off the whole group waiting. One nice thing is I have a passport that does not required visa for 2 weeks or less ... US passports kinda "sucks" when one travel in Asia. Lot of countries need visa for US citizen.
That's why I never convert my to US even though I have a choice.
For that price of getting visa or lock up for 20 hrs. I would think many people will choose the former.
[QUOTE=Chin1970]I went to the Richmond Hill Health Centre couple days ago and the security guard told me the facility is closed for renovation. Anybody knows what happened since I was there only couple weeks ago and no one even mentioned about that. It got busted or what?
Anyway, any other good fun sauna places in zhuhai worthwhile to explore? I like the services over the Richmond Hill since they offered Macau style service with lower damages (of course the girls are better in Macau).
Chin1970[/QUOTE]
Just my quick report.
Went to Richmond Hill Hotel to find out if they are still close. The place is dark and the security said that they will be close for renovations till June for total renovations.
See my other report on my findings of another sauna.
after checking on richmond hotel i headed down yingbing avenue. walk pass a couple nice looking sws which said "hi... bring me home?" - i found the sws here more agressive than in shanghai. i did not bother to reply and just keep on walking. as i just arrived zhuhai and the night is still young, i decided to check out the area first before trying on any.
i reach junction of yingbing ave and yuehai road and saw what looks like a nice bar... a couple of sws there and there is yindo hotel. saw on the sign the reads shopping, restaurants, saunas, etc.. (all in chinese) so i ahead into the hotel to check out the sauna.
name : immense sauna
address: yuehai road gongbei, 3rd floor, yindo hotel
escorted into the changing room, greeted by the service boy, locker and change for shower (standard sauna stuff) soak in the hot pool and noticed that i was alone there! ask the only attendent in the sauna pools area; "nobody here tonight?" he answered "no... there are a lot! all in resting area or massage". finish up the hot pool, dry up. proceed to the rest area. again typical rest area with big screen tv, drinks, food are serve base on your orders. (all chargeable). manager came and asked if you wants your nails trimmed (pedicure), foot massage, ear cleaning. (all are 50/service/person). i am not into these. than, she asked if i want a full body massage.
normal rooms:
with one massage bed per room (4th floor) 238/room for 45mins
vip rooms:
bed, bathroom with personal stream bath room, tv, sofa, much bigger and nicer (4th floor or 7th floor) 338/room for 45mins
i took the vip room option and was lead to the 4th floor via a spirrel staircase. the room was not bad and before i can sit down, the manager brought in 4 girls on a line up. the girls stand in front of you and said their numbers and provience which they are from. i did not find my liking so i said no. first batch of girls was lead out. manager asked what kind of girls i like so she can arrange. i ask her in return, what kind of girl they have and how many? she said: "we have locals (mainland chinese) which you seen the first 4, russians, mongolians, thai and we got about 30 girls tonight. because it is near chinese new year, most of them went back home", i asked to see the non-local selection so she brought in 3 "russian" - i reckon they are middle eastern and not russian or at least if they are... they are short russians! again i said no. she brought in a batch of 2 mongolians and i selected one with c cups, nice body.
number 103, she spoke perfect english and mandarin! told me that she is new, started only less than a month. told me she studied english in home land. she started with removing her clothes and proceed to striping me naked. she has a pairs of c cups knockers with those inverted nipples. asked me to the shower where she wash scrub me down with her gentle hands. she paid special attention when she reached my private part, making sure it is not private anymore! dried me and herself off. lead me back into the bed. and asked if i wanted a massage first or she can start her service. she reminded me that if i want a "great massage" i may need an extra hour (which means actually another 45mins - in saunas standard hour is 45mins) i said "well what the hack? 45mins is usually not enough for me without massage anyways." so i told her why don;t we start with the service first and i will still buy another hour, if she is good and finish fast.. we can use the time left for massage.
she started with typical kissing and licking my balls as if she wants to clean out the whole groin area with her tongue. proceed to rimming, bj. slip on rubbers and asked "you like to be on top?" i told her i am lazy tonight, just got off the plane. she proceed to ride me.... after 10 mins... without taking my thing out she turned around back facing me. this is the time, i started sitting up and started playing her knockers from behind. her knockers felt really hard but smooth. not really typical of mongolians. i asked her how old is she: answered "please don't tell anyone but i am born in the year 1989" i ask her... "fake id huh?" she said "yes... my family poor blah blah blah" i said "ok ok... don;t worry i am not the police, don't need you to explain."
we switch a couple of positions over the next 40 mins and she started commenting that i am strong and told me that she will not last any longer as she had already cum twice. well, based on my experience she did look like she had really came twice over the last 40 mins. the bed sheets are really wet with her cum by now. so i decided to let it out! what amazed me is that after letting it out, she hug on to me like with total gfe feeling. wow! and after 3 to 5 mins she put me down back on the bed.... told me not to move while she will clean me up. here is the second amzaing part; taking some toilet paper from the bathroom, took out my rubbers, put them into the paper and start licking my dick clean! oh!!! god!!! that make me almost wants to cum again! i think she felt that and said... "let it out, i like more of your cum!" so i did not hesitiate and let out another load in her mouth! can't believe she swallowed my full two loads!
after clean up my dick... she lead me into the showers again and proceed to clean me down with her body. while drying up, i asked her... is this the normal service for every girl in this sauna? she said "no" this is only extra for me because she like me... i asked...than what's the rubber for? she said i don't want to get pregnent! but i like you.." i start commenting: "yah yah... you tell that to every one of your customer....to make them come back and asked for you did you?" she started looking angry... and said..."you broke my heart!" well... a couple of nice pesting word from me and she started saying (while packing up the bed) "i am off work at 4am... give me time to wash up and you tell me where you are staying, i go to your hotel? ok?" i was thinking of picking up another sw later so i told her... tomorrow night will be better....she left her number with in my mobile and reminded me that i must call her tomorrow night. we chat a little more she told me that business in this sauna is not that good. she sometimes does not get customer everynight. only once every two to three nights. friday and saturdays are better... sometimes 1 to 2 customers a night and that is considered good! she said she is also considered one of the most popular girl in the sauna because she is new and young. times up and she lead me out giving me a kiss on my cheek before leaving me and show me her mobile to remind me to call her.
proceed to dress up at locker room. and paid the bill. may be i will call her or may be i will not... if she is really born in 1989..doesn't that make her ****? 16+? my maths is bad so i didn't sort realized till while writting this report. she could be bs.
damage:
338 = rooms + 45 mins massage + sauna
238 = extra hour (45mins)
total = 576 (drop them 600 and left the change as tips. immediately saw the smile on their face!)
map of yindo hotel:
[url]http://www.travelchinaguide.com/hotel/showmap.asp?i=200402170441200894[/url]
i will report on sws i found after leaving yindo hotel in my next report.
Darkman2
Perhaps you dreamt this sauna fantasy, and the cashier/service people smiling for the generosity of your 24 Yuan tip? Yeah right!!
BTW the way your irresponsible mention of the age is an open invitation to the PSB to raid the place... Who are you?
Daring Mood
[quote=daring mood]darkman2
perhaps you dreamt this sauna fantasy, and the cashier/service people smiling for the generosity of your 24 yuan tip? yeah right!!
btw the way your irresponsible mention of the age is an open invitation to the psb to raid the place... who are you?
daring mood[/quote]
i think the person who is fantasizing is you. why would they not smile when you are the only customer and yet give a tip?
next: she said she is **** and you believe? i say i am 200 years old and is your grand father! and you believe than?
you think it is so easy for psb to conduct a raid? it cost money and lot of planning. if you are the authority conducting the raid you will plan out that the raid is 100% successful and not come back empty handed. who will bare the responsiblities? besides, for a joint to operate in china they would have the right "connections" and it is though these connections that the authority get the extras income. do you think the psb will conduct a raid based on a posting from a mr. unknown = darkman2? i think you must be kidding man...
besides, for the girl to work in the sauna her age on her id must had shown that she is older than 18 so her birth year must be fake (if she is telling the truth.) you think the sauna would risk employing a **** girl?
the purpose of this board is the share information on mongering activities. it seems like people from this thread is not too appreciative on information sharing. (punch me on pm if i am wrong). as experience monger we all know that a lot of time information directly from the girls or joints are only 20% - 40% realiable. they do these for the purpose to make you happy so that you can come back to them.
imho: the more information we have and the more notes we can compare with, the more accurate is the information. if the purpose of the thread is for people to curse at each other, i think it will defeat its purpose for anyone to post anything.
i don't think anyone is so free to spend their time spending money to find information and to spend time writting on this board just to be cursed or laugh at by other fellow members. for this i am restaining my posting on my finding on sws and information i found over conversations with mama san and the girls.
so let me ask you your own question: who the f are you?
Well let me say that reading bad comments from Daring Mood about Darkman report really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off.
I mean Darkman is an experienced monger and has already made a lot of valuable posts all over the forum. So who is this dude to attck him like that.
I am sure Darkman never BS us with hisstories and I had myself some good experiences based on his reports, so please no more of this on these pages.
Please Darkman keep on posting and do not pay attention to these jealous pricks.
Cheers,
PF.
[quote=darkman2]proceed to dress up at locker room. and paid the bill. may be i will call her or may be i will not... if she is really born in 1989..doesn't that make her ****? 16+? my maths is bad so i didn't sort realized till while writting this report. she could be bs.[/quote]never know if she bs or play this game to everyone. well, my thought is no harm on talking to the phone. maybe she provide room service at better rate? anyway, what could be the damage if going for dinner to further check her out?
who cares what others comments are, you are the only one who truly enjoy the experience ! no one can take that away from your memories.
[QUOTE=Daring Mood]Darkman2
Perhaps you dreamt this sauna fantasy, and the cashier/service people smiling for the generosity of your 24 Yuan tip? Yeah right!!
BTW the way your irresponsible mention of the age is an open invitation to the PSB to raid the place... Who are you?
Daring Mood[/QUOTE]
If you are scared of PSB then this website, ISG/WSG and all activities associated are illegal in China anyway. Just writing about any place that offers FS is asking for for an open invitation. I don't believe we know for sure if this site is monitor by LE. It would be easier for them to read the Chinese monger websites like "pushoil", "sina", and "timmy" for information. I agree with Darkman, the girl has an ID that she is 18.
I guess you NEVER worked in the service industry. Even without a tip, good customer service is keen and required. You have to reflect a professional and POSITIVE outlook for your business.
Weelock
Thanks brothers for the comforting words;
My Report on Lian Hua Jie;
After the Sauna session I headed down to Lian Hua Jie which is 2 blocks aways. While on the way there I was stopped by at least 3 pairs of SWs asking your to bring them back. I would think the my range of choice will be better if I walked further.
I noticed that as I got nearer to Lian Hua Jie, the Sws seems to be getting prettier and younger. Why? Competition? - May be Zhuhai experts can comment on this?
While walking down Lian Hua Jie, I was amazed again that there were so many policeman patrolling the place but yet the SWs is business as usual... I walked the full length of Lian Hua until I came the the junction where I can see GongBei Kou (Gongbei immigration check point). There must be at least 30+ SWs pairs that had approached me. The only annoying part are the beggers and the begging young kids. They are like Bees that stick to you like Superglue!
I headed backwards to see if one of the SWs which looks reasonably pretty is still there. And surprisingly she is. Spotting me she came and pester me again I said yes but LT. She wanted 1000... I told her to FO... it is nearly 1:30am and she wants 1000 for LT? She start asking where I am from, I said USA, and she started explaining that LT here is unlike LT in Macau, HongKong or other cities, normally it is much more than double blah blah blah.. ST the girl can come back for another ST .... I told her of... I Said: "It is 1:30am now on a Wednesday night, you think after one ST you come back at 3am you will be able to get another ST? And with so much competitions, you be ending up having "Whiteboard" - (a common phase for White Mahjong title - which means No business for the whole night). She said ok ok... 800, I said no... 400... she laugh and said you take me and my sister (They don't look alike-- but common because they call each other sister anyways) each for 600 that's 1200 for Shuang Fei (双飞) I laughed and said 1000 for both, take it or leave it! Deal done... We headed back to my hotel on a taxi.
Not sure if I am overpaying them... please shoot me Zhuhai experts if I did! - But back in the hotel their service was great! They even stayed till 8am and had breakfast with me. (They said that LT here means till 6am).
Statistics:
Younger Girl (Xiao Ching)
Said she was 18
Body : 8/10
Beauty : (My opinion) 7/10
Skills: 6/10
Elder sister (Xiao Lan)
Said she was 20
Body : 7/10
Beauty : (My opinion) 8/10
Skills: 8/10
One thing I wondered... don't they change my rubbers in between changing among themselve?
Next report... Orgy party on Thursday night with 4 SWs...!
Cheers!
Hi Darkman:
Yes, you over paid BIG time. From what I gather, you can speak Chinese or at least some Mandarin. As a result, they should NOT have given you a high price to start. It's 200ST and 500LT for SW. The good thing they stayed until 8am. In general, the price is cheaper than Northern China.
Be careful, some of them looked too too young for my taste. I was there two different times. Both times I was there for about 7 days.
Wondering if you seen a little begger girl with a metal bowl. When I was there she was wearing a red outfit. Be careful about giving money to any of them. Once you give money to one, the other will attack you for money. A few had parents just a few feet away.
[QUOTE=Darkman2]Next report... Orgy party on Thursday night with 4 SWs. [/QUOTE]
Four is NOT going to it. You need at least 500 for real orgy. That's what the Japanese had 3 years ago in Zhuhai.
Weelock
[quote=weelock]hi darkman:
yes, you over paid big time. from what i gather, you can speak chinese or at least some mandarin. as a result, they should not have given you a high price to start. it's 200st and 500lt for sw. the good thing they stayed until 8am. in general, the price is cheaper than northern china.
be careful, some of them look too too young for my taste. i was there two different times. both times i was there for about 7 days.
wondering if you seen a little begger girl with a metal bowl. when i was there she was wearing a red outfit. be careful about giving money to any of them. once you give money to one, the other will attack you for money. a few had parents just a few feet away.
four is not going to it. you need at least 500 for real orgy. that's what the japanese had 3 years ago in zhuhai.
weelock[/quote]
oh... i guess i paid them the right price then... i did said 1000 for both, only 500 each!
yes, i was careful not to get in trouble with the **** girls...those i suspect or look too young i will usually turn them away.
also yes... those beggers kids in china are dangerous! it the same in every cities in china. same in beijing and shanghai. i remember seeing one of the foreigners been surrounded by these kids all because he gave one some coins! this was in shanghai.
i had 4 of them against me alone... i think that is enough for my own orgy..hehehe but that was not my limit... i had 5 in the phillippines 2 years ago... i don't think i can handle 500 all at one time!
for the orgy 3 years ago.... i was supposed to be among them... but fortunately or unfortunately the timing was not right for me... i miss it! well, at that time i was living in tokyo and part of that group of guys.... a few of my friends got fired after they got back to japan. anyways... i am off back to shanghai today. its been fun in zhuhai... i would said it is much more fun here in zhuhai than shanghai! at least a lot cheaper. plus great information from the board that pointed me to places! thanks to you guys!
Around beginning of January 06 I was walking around Zhuhai, on Lian Hua Lu. This middle aged balding man on the street asked me to come to the hotel, says there are girls there, and I can choose from selection. It's a small hotel in an alleyway. There are guards wearing green coat uniforms on 1st floor.
The scam is this: After the full service, the girl invites you to drink some champagne with her, which was delivered into the room while you two were having fun. After finished, you pay the tab. Each cup of wine is 498RMB. There were 4 cups of wine, for total of 2300 RMB, which is a lot of money for one time, short time, in Zhuhai or anywhere.
Originally, we agreed the full service would only be 130 RMB, and room fee is 30. No one mentioned the 498 RMB glasses of wine. And it's too expensive for one-time, even though I admit the service was good (8/10) and the girl was pretty cute (8/10).
Anyways, not wanting to lose my limbs, I paid up. But be careful to watch out for this wine scam.
The street guy gave me his card. Effecitively, it says Taiwan main representative. His phone number is on the card too, it ends with 471572, if anyone wants to be aware of this.
If anyone either wants a 2300 full service or wants to avoid this, I can send a scan of the business card he gave me.
This is my last report on this trip to Zhuhai:
I got down Lian Hua Jie on Thursday evening. It was wet day at Zhuhai. I guess I can picked up some great girls for a party on my last night in Zhuhai. First walked towards those coffee bar and as usual been asked by several SWs along the way. Seat down for a beer and in less than one minute, approached by one pair of girls (which I turned down on the first night). They regonized me and said "How it is? Tonight?" I went straight to the point: "Tonight is party time! If you can get another 3 more of your sisters, give me good price, we can go to my hotel for a party all night!" I guess she was shock by my answers but was careful and said: "Are you sure?" , I: "Yes of course!" She: "Wait! I have to ask my auntie..." she disappeared into the rows of shops and appeared with a older women, in her 30s point to me and the "Auntie" seat down next to me.... started asking all sort of questions. End of the day she just wants to know things like where I am from, verify whether I have enough cash to pay for it...., and if the girls for for only myself!
I bought her an coffee and started talking to her in mongering language...told her that I use to run a take out bar in Tokyo so I know the trade. negotiated down from 4000 for all 4 girls LT. to 2200 for 4 girls LT.
I use negotiation stuff like, "well... looks like it is going to be a quiet night as it may rain whole night..." she counter me with excuse like "It is very early in the evening so... who knows what can happens?" and I counter again by saying "Well in that case I can go off and come back later or may be I'll not come back since it is easy to find others...."
I guess smart "Auntie" sense that A bird in hand is better than 2 in the bush, and agreed to 2200 for 4 LTs. We finish up the coffee and she bought me to this Alley between the shops where I had a line up....pick some cute looking ones, headed back to my hotel.
I noticed there were quite a few girls that I reckon are not the age they said they are... I sounded out to Auntie but she said that they all have ID to prove that they are over 18.... I understand what she meant so I didn't ask further. I would says that out of the 8 to 9 girls in the line up... at least 4 to 5 of them are below 20 and the oldest wil not be more than 25. 2 of them does not look "qualified" age group.
The party in my hotel room was great, but the embarrassing things is I have to call the Housekeeping for extra bath towels... have to make stupid excuse like.... I dropped the towels into the wet bathtubs.... Strange thing is the hotel I stayed in is 5-Star hotel... we did not get stopped by the security when 5 of us walked into the lobby and headed to the lift. Was it because it was only 9pm? Too early?
Another strange thing: This is the second time I noticed that if I have more than one girl at the same time, the girls do not seems to change my rubbers in between changing of girls! the two I had the night before also did not changed the rubbers. Anywhere else I went, they seems insist to use a new rubbers if I dripped from one girl to another.
My experience of having those 4? Great! At one point, I had two of them licking my nipples (with me digging their pussies from both sides), one riding me from on top (with my legs over the edge of the bed) and another sitting on the floor licking my balls! What a combinations! I reckon if I had a movie camera, we can made that a porno movie!
After the whole night of party... everyone of us were just drained out by 4am!
In between rounds we chatted and I also found out that whatever I paid they will only get half the amount, the rest goes to Auntie. So, I told them... the next time I will arrange with them directly via their mobile. One of them did not agree because she said that if "Auntie" know that, she might not get customer for her anymore... but she was quickly been "gunned" down by the rest of them. I guess the one who protested must be new. However they did said that if I want to arrange for party of more than 2 it is better to go though "Auntie: because if more than 2 of the girls asked for rest day together, "Auntie" will be suspicous.
It is a good business to be "Auntie" just supply girls, the girls do all the work and only get half of the money paid. But thinking of it, maybe the "Auntie" is the connections with the local police?
So in conclusion: I had a good time.. Possible to arrange for Party just negotiate with the Auntie, (tell the girl you want to talk to the Auntie). The price I got for 4 LT from 9pm to 6am = 2200 (450 each). May be Zhuhai expert can get even better deals!
Happy Hunting
[quote=poiuy0987]around beginning of january 06 i was walking around zhuhai, on lian hua lu. this middle aged balding man on the street asked me to come to the hotel, says there are girls there, and i can choose from selection. it's a small hotel in an alleyway. there are guards wearing green coat uniforms on 1st floor.
the scam is this: after the full service, the girl invites you to drink some champagne with her, which was delivered into the room while you two were having fun. after finished, you pay the tab. each cup of wine is 498rmb. there were 4 cups of wine, for total of 2300 rmb, which is a lot of money for one time, short time, in zhuhai or anywhere.
originally, we agreed the full service would only be 130 rmb, and room fee is 30. no one mentioned the 498 rmb glasses of wine. and it's too expensive for one-time, even though i admit the service was good (8/10) and the girl was pretty cute (8/10).
anyways, not wanting to lose my limbs, i paid up. but be careful to watch out for this wine scam.
the street guy gave me his card. effecitively, it says taiwan main representative. his phone number is on the card too, it ends with 471572, if anyone wants to be aware of this.
if anyone either wants a 2300 full service or wants to avoid this, i can send a scan of the business card he gave me.[/quote]
this sort of scam is common, rule of thumb:
1) never agree to use their premise for fs
why:
- you may be asked to pay fantastic extra prices for everything including condoms, towels, etc...
- you may ended up been filmed and blackmailed for your fs sessions, couple of japanese friend was hot on this
- in the middle of the session, a few man rush into the room, claims that they are policeman and extort money from you saying that you are having sex with minors - again a friend of mine was hit.
2) never chose a girls that you suspect that is ****.
3) for take away session, never let them know your hotel until you board the taxi, if possible carry a address card of the hotel and ask the taxi to go to "this place"
4) if you are staying in near by hotel, be aware of the surroundings, while walking with the girl, make sure no one is following you from behind.
5) once in the hotel, you are still not 100% safe. be aware of people around you.
6) never open the door to anyone even they claim that they are policeman.
7) when in doubt call the hotel security immediately. it is better to be embarrass than ending up robbed.
8) most important rule of all: rtff, what are all these information for?
not to be paranoid over this, but i realied on these rules which kept me in one piece and away from scam for till now.
[QUOTE=Poiuy0987]Around beginning of January 06 I was walking around Zhuhai, on Lian Hua Lu. This middle aged balding man on the street asked me to come to the hotel, says there are girls there, and I can choose from selection. It's a small hotel in an alleyway. There are guards wearing green coat uniforms on 1st floor.
The scam is this: After the full service, the girl invites you to drink some champagne with her, which was delivered into the room while you two were having fun. After finished, you pay the tab. Each cup of wine is 498RMB. There were 4 cups of wine, for total of 2300 RMB, which is a lot of money for one time, short time, in Zhuhai or anywhere.
Originally, we agreed the full service would only be 130 RMB, and room fee is 30. No one mentioned the 498 RMB glasses of wine. And it's too expensive for one-time, even though I admit the service was good (8/10) and the girl was pretty cute (8/10).
Anyways, not wanting to lose my limbs, I paid up. But be careful to watch out for this wine scam.
The street guy gave me his card. Effecitively, it says Taiwan main representative. His phone number is on the card too, it ends with 471572, if anyone wants to be aware of this.
If anyone either wants a 2300 full service or wants to avoid this, I can send a scan of the business card he gave me.[/QUOTE]
Thanks will send you a PM with my e-mail for the scan since I'm planning another trip to Zhuhai. I will check out this SCAM place on Lian Hua Lu. Lian Hua Lu is a short road and only about 3-4 small hotels, just curious on which one. There are also a few BBS shops in these alleys if I'm corrected. The NAME of the hotel would be better for a description. The name might even be listed on the map of Zhuhai below, although it's in Chinese. Is the hotel before or after the DISCO if you are heading north? And if you are facing north on Lian Hua Lu, is it west or east of Lian Hua Lu. For the guy, about how tall was he? How much hair did he had left?
See link for maps for Zhuhai, Lian Hua Lu.
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[QUOTE=Darkman2]This sort of Scam is common, Rule of Thumb:[/QUOTE]
Might want to add another rule:
9. Do not to carry around too much money, expensive jewelry and too many credit/ATM cards. For Poiuy0987, having more than ~2800RMB was too much to be carrying for eating-in at a BBS or SW's place.
Weelock
[QUOTE=Darkman2]This is my last report on this trip to Zhuhai:
So in conclusion: I had a good time.. Possible to arrange for Party just negotiate with the Auntie, (tell the girl you want to talk to the Auntie). The price I got for 4 LT from 9pm to 6am = 2200 (450 each). May be Zhuhai expert can get even better deals!
Happy Hunting[/QUOTE]As a frequent Zhuhai visitor,i can only say you did real great.I envy you
Also, tell the girl to turn her cellphone off before you go to your hotel.
[QUOTE=Weelock]
Might want to add another rule:
9. Do not to carry around too much money, expensive jewelry and too many credit/ATM cards. Having more than ~2800RMB is too much to be carrying for eating-in at a BBS or SW's place.
Weelock[/QUOTE]
Yes I agree, I forgot that one, I always leave my wallet in the hotel safe and carry enough cash just for Taxi, a couple of beers and some basic food. Tell the girls you have the cash in the hotel.
As for Santa: Also agree... tell them you are annoyed by phone calls and will take longer time to cum if you are disturbed by phone call.
I was think of something funny.... I think we should have a Monger code of conduct compiled...hehehe
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]As a frequent Zhuhai visitor,i can only say you did real great.I envy you[/QUOTE]
Very Thanks for your advise too! They are the basis I found the SWs.
I'll be back!
Cheers!
Does anyone know if the Zhuhai International Conference Center Hotel is girl friendly? I will be visiting Zhuhai soon and will post my report once I do.
[QUOTE=Chinakid1980]Does anyone know if the Zhuhai International Conference Center Hotel is girl friendly? I will be visiting Zhuhai soon and will post my report once I do.[/QUOTE]
Did you RTFF?
[QUOTE=Chinakid1980]Does anyone know if the Zhuhai International Conference Center Hotel is girl friendly? I will be visiting Zhuhai soon and will post my report once I do.[/QUOTE]Hello,This was the place all over CNN,BBC etc that had the orgy with the 1000 girls and 500 Japanese Tourists and You ask if its Girl Friendly???????????Please RTFF???Whats the next question Do Chinese eat rice????BTW YES Its very Girl friendly
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Hello,This was the place all over CNN,BBC etc that had the orgy with the 1000 girls and 500 Japanese Tourists and You ask if its Girl Friendly???????????Please RTFF???Whats the next question Do Chinese eat rice????BTW YES Its very Girl friendly[/QUOTE]
New members here are either dam bloody ignorant or they just treat ISF as a Escort helpdesk service. CL, forgive them, I am sure they will only get rude answers if they ask like that.
Their member profile seems to be alike:
Regular Member ===> no respect for seniors that has made the efforts of posting all those good information on the board.
Reports: 2 ===> Single digit number.
Whether it is Zhuhia, Shanghai, Manila, Japan, Beijing or any other cities, all the same.
Do these ladies allow you to have sex with them?
[quote=opium]do these ladies allow you to have sex with them?[/quote]
good joke, opium. let me add a few more.
what stds should i take more precautions against in china?
where is the hotel that i just booked and how do i get there?
why are chinese the only corrupt and dishonest people in the world?
do you think my employer will mind when i tell them that i am going to have a sw move into the dorm with me so i won't start having sex with my students?
i followed a gal down a dark alley into a derelict building and someone stole all the money from my wallet while i was in the shower.
i walked into the lobby of my hotel with an ****d sw who was dressed like a sw, young enough to be my granddaughter and saw all heads turning. and i knew that they wished that they were me.
keep them cuming! lol!
Here are some actual newbie questions I have collected over the years
1.Do I need a visa to enter China???
2.Is it ok to bring Dalai Lama pictures during my visit to Tibet??
3.What is a KTV???
4.I paid 1000 RMB per Pop in Shenzen,Did I overpay???
5.Where can I find Sexy INDIAN girls in New Delhi??posted in the INDONESIA board,Guess He failed Geography in Elementary.
6.Is it possibile to get extra services in a BANGKOK MP???
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Here are some actual newbie questions I have collected over the years
1.Do I need a visa to enter China???
2.Is it ok to bring Dalai Lama pictures during my visit to Tibet??
3.What is a KTV???
4.I paid 1000 RMB per Pop in Shenzen,Did I overpay???
5.Where can I find Sexy INDIAN girls in New Delhi??posted in the INDONESIA board,Guess He failed Geography in Elementary.
6.Is it possibile to get extra services in a BANGKOK MP???[/QUOTE]
Come to think of it..... after reading these questions, I really think it is really really funny....
In fact I got a PM (from someone which I will not mention) that goes like "How do I ask the girls if I want to use Condoms?"
We should consider starting a Thread under "Questions as a Newbies" or "Idiot guide to questions in ISF"
hehehehe!
HAHA... CL, let me elaborate a little more for you:
ZHUHAI is the MOST girl friendly city in all of China. You can pretty much bring a girl to any hotel at anytime in that city. They have hotels that are rented by the hour there... like Japan! :-)
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Hello,This was the place all over CNN,BBC etc that had the orgy with the 1000 girls and 500 Japanese Tourists and You ask if its Girl Friendly???????????Please RTFF???Whats the next question Do Chinese eat rice????BTW YES Its very Girl friendly[/QUOTE]
Last three finalists at a beauty contest in England.
Girl #1 says "my name is Susie and I'm from Suffolk". Pronounced Suffuck.
Girl #2 says "my name is Wendy and I'm from Norfolk".
Girl #3 says, with a strong Irish accent, "my name is Bridget and I'm from Ireland, but I promise the judges, I'm as good a fuck as any of em!"
Going to be in Zhuhai from Feb 15-20th. IF any of you Zhuhai regulars want to get together for some fun, laugh, and gals, send me a PM. Although, its hard to beat Dongguan for the sheer amount of girls, there is something very appealing about beauties, so near the beach :)
Very quiet on this thread, I thought there should be a lot more happening than Shanghai?
Frankly as one of the active monger in Shanghai and Beijing, I found Zhuhai a lot more interesting and rich in such activities. Am I in love with the girls here or what? Already I am planning for my next few trip here!
In my next trip, I will try out the cute waitress at my hotel's restaurant, She had been hinting to me that she needs a BF!
I'll be back!
Hello hello?? Testing testing? Anyone home? have not had a posting here since CNY! What happened? Was there a massive raid that cleaned out everybody?
I'm in Zhuhai now, Business as usual :)
Will be here till the 19th if anyone wants to join me, shoot me a PM
'lad
Just want to report that thanks to Cebu Local, Traveler 1234 and Day Night, I managed to get that piece of paper where the China immigration can put their entry/exit chops on. I got it when going in at Guangzhou East train station (on the direct trian from Hong KOng).
It took just a few minutes delay whilst one of the senior guys took my passport into the office and cambe back out with the piece of paper all nicely chopped and with my passport/visa details written on it.
When I used this paper at the Sha Tau Kok entry, a whole bunch of officers came to have a look at it - all very friendly - asking how/where I got it and they even took it into their office to show their superiors and also to take a photocopy of to show the rest of the staff at that border crossing. This is truly China ain't it?! Where nothing is too well co-ordinated - not even between the same department but at different locality!!
SE Asia Joe
Still here... Just forgot about ISG for awhile since it was CNY and we all know that in China, CNY = no quality chicks to be found anywhere.
AG: I agree 1000% ZH is the place I always plan on going. Saving all my expenses in Shanghai to go to ZH. :-)
[QUOTE=Asian Gambler]Hello hello?? Testing testing? Anyone home? have not had a posting here since CNY! What happened? Was there a massive raid that cleaned out everybody?[/QUOTE]
Anybody going to be in town????Want to get together for a drink
[QUOTE=Tiger 1]When are you going to be there? I have a job to do in Macau on March 3, but don't want to stay overnight in Macau on a friday.[/QUOTE]March 1 and 2 Wensday and Thursday,I have a group of 30 Philippine Travel Agents,Where I will be busy sinceI am delegation Leader.Will call you in your PI hotel as soon as you get in.Cheers
[QUOTE=Tiger 1]When are you going to be there? I have a job to do in Macau on March 3, but don't want to stay overnight in Macau on a friday.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, going to be back home in States.
Next time than...
Guys,
I stayed at this hotel which is bang opposite to the guandong regency hotel.
I can say that this is one of the best i stayed so far for a prive of less than rmb400.
I have stayed at yindo and regency and both suck in comparison to this,
They have some japanese rooms here and its fantastic for the price. The weekend rate is 438y.
They have a health centre at the 2nd floor. Costs 388y incl fs.
The girl I got had a lousy face but a great body and lousy attitude. Wouldn’t allow me to touch her anywhere. But I guess others would be a lot pleasant. Will try room service next time.
Ciao
Hi Asian Gambler,
Can you pm me the number of Yindo 103?
Thanks,
Krazy
Unfortunately, 103 isn't at the Yindu anymore. I tried to give her a call when I was in town.
However, I had a nice spinner from Hubei, number 15 that was a nice GFE experience. Very accomendating.
guys
for those who contacted or called me,i was not able to get back to you guys,because i did something kinda stupid.i picked up a freelancer infront of the hotel and decided to play a game,i offered 200 rmb for 1 shot and 100rmb for every pop she could get out of me after that.she literally raped me and i got 2 shots in and then went to sleep,i woke up with her on top of me for 1 more shot at 2am,then she woke me up in the morning with a bj and we got 2 more rounds in before breakfast at 10am.i ended up having to go to the clinic because of a severe headache because of high blood pressure brought about by exhaustion.i was given some medicine which made me sleep for 10 hours and i was told rest and no sex or going out drinking for 2 days.so my sincere apologies for not being able to hook up,but i should not push the limits of my body.cl out
[quote=cebu local]guys
for those who contacted or called me,i was not able to get back to you guys,because i did something kinda stupid.i picked up a freelancer infront of the hotel and decided to play a game,i offered 200 rmb for 1 shot and 100rmb for every pop she could get out of me after that.she literally raped me and i got 2 shots in and then went to sleep,i woke up with her on top of me for 1 more shot at 2am,then she woke me up in the morning with a bj and we got 2 more rounds in before breakfast at 10am.i ended up having to go to the clinic because of a severe headache because of high blood pressure brought about by exhaustion.i was given some medicine which made me sleep for 10 hours and i was told rest and no sex or going out drinking for 2 days.so my sincere apologies for not being able to hook up,but i should not push the limits of my body.cl out[/quote]
cl,
i was surprised for a old timer like you will make a silly mistake like that! the fun became nightmare! but think of it, you had fun initially isn't it?
now for the others... let that be a lesson for all you guys!
cl.... rest well and reload your ammo!
ag
if i counted right, that means you paid 700rmb for long time, and *definitely* got your money's worth! you got her to perform and you got her to stay within a reasonable rate! great job!
now you know the meaning of "be careful what you ask for, for you will surely get it!"
david
[quote=cebu local]guys
for those who contacted or called me,i was not able to get back to you guys,because i did something kinda stupid.i picked up a freelancer infront of the hotel and decided to play a game,i offered 200 rmb for 1 shot and 100rmb for every pop she could get out of me after that.she literally raped me and i got 2 shots in and then went to sleep,i woke up with her on top of me for 1 more shot at 2am,then she woke me up in the morning with a bj and we got 2 more rounds in before breakfast at 10am.i ended up having to go to the clinic because of a severe headache because of high blood pressure brought about by exhaustion.i was given some medicine which made me sleep for 10 hours and i was told rest and no sex or going out drinking for 2 days.so my sincere apologies for not being able to hook up,but i should not push the limits of my body.cl out[/quote]
[QUOTE=Krazy Bum]Guys,
I stayed at this hotel which is bang opposite to the guandong regency hotel.
I can say that this is one of the best i stayed so far for a prive of less than rmb400.
I have stayed at yindo and regency and both suck in comparison to this,
They have some japanese rooms here and its fantastic for the price. The weekend rate is 438y.
They have a health centre at the 2nd floor. Costs 388y incl fs.
The girl I got had a lousy face but a great body and lousy attitude. Wouldn’t allow me to touch her anywhere. But I guess others would be a lot pleasant. Will try room service next time.
Ciao[/QUOTE]
It's actually the Chang An (not ChaoAn) Good World Hotel. Located on Lian Hua Lu, right close to Guangdong Regency (Yue Hai) Hotel.
Their sauna is a happening place. The room set up is very similar to Macau. You can have a choice of girls here. Cost is 188 rmb for the standard room and 288 rmb for the VIP room. Tip for the girl is 200 rmb. Price/performance in this place is quite good.
I'm surprised Krazy Bum says the girl would not let him touch her... Did she want conversation? Next time, just kick her out and call the mami to get you another girl!
Cebu Local:
Are you trying to recoup your losses for overpaying in Guangzhou? Take care of yourself, my friend.
OAH
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Cebu Local:
Are you trying to recoup your losses for overpaying in Guangzhou? Take care of yourself, my friend.
OAH[/QUOTE]Just getting wiser my friend,I reward performance with a direct relation between pops and fees payed,I mean If she was lazy She could have gotten 200 Rmb and gone away,But it was raining so she decided to get one night s income out of me.Take care and see you soon.
Is this place very far from GZ?
For those of you who enjoyed the Green umbrella area, it seems like
the warm and humid weather is creeping back and making the area
more popular again. Anybody have time to relax over a couple of
beers or drinks in the area?
J
[QUOTE=Timtam]Is this place very far from GZ?[/QUOTE]
to tim tam
zhu hai is 3 hr bus ride from guangdong city , is next to macau just cross the
border , ferry from shekou area of shenzhen is about an hour .
fast eddie 48
Those of us who have been to Zhuhai know that it is a gem of a city for mongering. Zhuhai is probably the most permissive city in China... With so much choice, where to go?
Here is a compilation of the saunas (or "health centers") in the Gongbei area, and prices to help guide you.
This info is derived from personal research (yours truly and friends) compiled in the last 6 months. If anything is out-of-date, please feel free to correct.
(I have listed both the Chinese and pinyin names, but some of the pinyin tones did not come out...)
Zhuhai Saunas (Gongbei area)
All room rates quoted are for 2 "hours" (90 mins)
香江酒店健康中心 (Xiāngjiāng Hotel Health Center); Room rate: 138 (VIP 268) + FS 200-300 (give direct to the girl)
交通大廈桑拿 (Jiāotōng dàshà sāngná); Room rate: 138
藍天休閒中心(Lántiān xiūxián zhōngxīn) (300m before Haiwān hotel); Room rate: 88 + FS 150
南洋海景桑拿浴室 (Nányáng haijing sauna); Room rate: 198 + FS 300
步步高 (bùbùgāo hotel) 酒店 room rate118 + FS 300-400
金葉酒店 (Jīnyè hotel); Room rate: 138+FS 300-400
駿德會 (jùndéhuì) 酒店健康中心; Room rate: 118, 198 (VIP) + FS 200-300 (Note: this hotel is currently under renovation)
拱北賓館 (gongběi bīnguan) 健康中心; Room rate: 168 + FS 200-300
粵海 (Yuèhai) 酒店; Room rate: 168 + FS 300-400
海灣 (Haiwān) 酒店桑拿; Room rate: 350 (good for 6 "hours")) + FS 200-300
岐關 (Qíguān) 酒店桑拿; Room rate: 168 + FS 200
綠都酒店桑拿 (Ludū hotel sauna); Room rate: 98 + FS 200-300
華僑 (Huáqiáo) 賓館桑拿; Room rate: 198 (inc. FS)
銀都 (Yíndu) 酒店桑拿; Room rate: 238, 338 (VIP) + FS 200-300
You wouldn't believe how perfect your post is, Nightdragon! I was dreading
going through all the ZH posts to compile broken, incomplete info and then,
voila!, you make a neat, complete posting for all.
Will return favor by trying each and every sauna on the list and posting...
J
Dragon Night,
I totally agreed with you at ZH, Its a great place.
Xiachuantoa is a nice place, too.
>>>Originally Posted by solbre
Last night drove to Nanyou Hua Yuan street
Many gals, some of them 8 / 9
For local man short time will cost 200 and for western 400
Easy to negotiate
Does anyone know where Nanyou Hua Yuan street is located? Near to which hotel, or in which district of ZhuHai (doumen, gongbei, jida, xiangzhou, xin xiangshou
I am guessing that "Nan-you" means 'boyfriend' (nan2 you3), and "hua-yuan" means 'garden' (hua1 yuan2); therefore 'boyfriend garden'?
South side of Jida -- near to ZhuHai Holiday Resort, and ZhuHai Silver Bay Resort, and near to ShuiWan Lu/Street -- are some similar names:
- NanYou ZhuHai Silver Bay Resort
- HaiJing HuaYuan
- HaiYi HuaYuan
- HaiWan HuaYuan
- HuaJing HuaYuan
My best guess is it must be near to ZhuHai Silver Bay Resort, which is very near to NanHai Oil Silver Bay Hotel/resort.
I am mostly looking for a place with lots of fun, other than LianHua Lu (LotusFlower Street), and 200 RMB rate (or cheaper).
I will probably come again to ZhuHai in May 2006.
Dar
Dear fellow member,
I just came back from the place, the high authority is conducting drug raid in Zhuhai, lots of place and entertaintment affected. Even the girl quality is dropping. Most of the pretty went off.
Got a chance to use Nightdragon's very useful posts on Zhuhai saunas
recently and here's a short report.
I don't know Zhuhai at all but most of the people, energy, and gals seem
to be around the Gongbei area, so that's where I headed with Nightdragon's
information. I walked around for a while and then saw the Yindo Hotel in the
distance (maybe 20 minute walk, 5 minute taxi) of the Gongbei port. Found
about 4 more of the other saunas which were about 3 minutes away from
the famous Lian Hua street. On a side note, it was my first time to Lian Hua
street and it's kind of crazy...a major pedestrian-only shopping street but
with a lot of young, aggresive pros mixed with the normal shoppers. The
best description I would give is, for those of you familiar with GZ, imagine
Beijing Road, but 25-30% of the young gals milling about are trying to give
you their mobile numbers on a piece of paper or trying to get you to take
them to one of the many short-time hotels on Lian Hua street. The ZH
government must have spent a lot of money putting in cobblestone paths,
decorative lighting, etc. on Lian Hua, so I'm surprised they've let it get
overrun with obvious SWs.
Anyway, onto the saunas....I ended up going to 交通大廈桑拿 (Jiāotōng
dàshà sāngná) only because it was the closest. It looks like a 2-3 star
hotel on the outside and there is a separate entrance for the sauna on
the right of the hotel entrance. I decided to take the hotel entrance and
walked up the stairs to the second floor. Strange entrance...I think some
kind of back entrance actually because even though there's a front desk
facing the door, the woman was surprised I came that way. She explained
that "complete meal/service (tao chan)" was 218 RMB and that was 90
minutes of room time. I though that sounded fine and got in the room.
It looks like a standard, somewhat dingy place you would get a foot
massage but with two massage tables a TV and nothing else. She asked
me for beverage choice and type of gal I wanted. She returned with my
Coke and a decent looking Hunan gal with huge tits, looks maybe a 7.
Then I asked the gal a couple more questions before realizing that "complete
meal" means massage, all-you-can-fuck, 90-minute room time, and FS
fee! So that means 218 for the use of a clean room, shower, drink, and 90
minutes of fucking! So, I asked her what is the VIP 288 room like? She
brought me to one and it was about double the size of the normal room
with a large bathroom with plastic massage table taking up most of the
extra space. Decided on the 288 room.
Service was good, not great, and included bodywash in the bathroom on
the plastic massage table, the standard fire/ice, rimming, BBJ, etc. Had
the gal in a couple of positions and then finished missionary. She washed
me again then we laid down to rest. She talked to me a bit and seems
like she's been working in ZH for 4 months or so (but haven't they all...).
Asked to be my ZH girlfriend and I laughed a bit so she started a nice
BBJ, so I guess that's a good comeback. She kept up the good work and
finished BBJCIM. Went back in bathroom and washed up (each of us had
a disposable toothbrush kit even!) then phone call came to tell us 90 minutes
were up. I actually felt it wasn't 90 minutes, maybe 75 minutes, but I'm
not really complaining. I don't think a 3rd come was going to happen
anyway.
Afterwards, it was kind of embarassing cause it seemed like I was the
only guy here (a Tuesday night) so the female captain asked me about
service with the gal still clinging to my arm, then another regular female
captain asked me about service as she led me down the stairs to the
male changing area. Then a male attendant led me towards the exit while,
yes, asking me about the service, before I finally reached the front desk
where...the female asked for the 288 RMB, got 300, and returned 10 with
a smile. Turns out this was the sauna entrance to the right of the hotel
entrance and I missed this fun experience coming in.
Anyway, a nice experience for 288 RMB total, which I think is a good
alternative to 200 RMB short time for those young gals on Lian Hua road.
Actually went back this week and had another good experience which was
basically the exact same as the first time. Seems like Tuesday-Thursdays
are the slowest days which means least selection of gals.
Service is not as good as in Dongguan, but price is about 50% less, so it
works out. Will try some other ZH places later this week and report.
Johnny
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Got a chance to use Nightdragon's very useful posts on Zhuhai saunas
recently and here's a short report.
I don't know Zhuhai at all but most of the people, energy, and gals seem
to be around the Gongbei area, so that's where I headed with Nightdragon's
information. I walked around for a while and then saw the Yindo Hotel in the
distance (maybe 20 minute walk, 5 minute taxi) of the Gongbei port. Found
about 4 more of the other saunas which were about 3 minutes away from
the famous Lian Hua street. On a side note, it was my first time to Lian Hua
street and it's kind of crazy...a major pedestrian-only shopping street but
with a lot of young, aggresive pros mixed with the normal shoppers. The
best description I would give is, for those of you familiar with GZ, imagine
Beijing Road, but 25-30% of the young gals milling about are trying to give
you their mobile numbers on a piece of paper or trying to get you to take
them to one of the many short-time hotels on Lian Hua street. The ZH
government must have spent a lot of money putting in cobblestone paths,
decorative lighting, etc. on Lian Hua, so I'm surprised they've let it get
overrun with obvious SWs.
Anyway, onto the saunas....[/QUOTE]
With a ratio of almost 3 women to every male in Zhuhai,What do you think the City is known for in China??Why do hundreds of thousands of Taiwanes,Malaysian Chinese Males etc visit the City yearly??It is known as a paradise for men.Why do they openly tolerate the 2 sex islands???Get the picture Enjoy
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Got a chance to use Nightdragon's very useful posts on Zhuhai saunas
recently and here's a short report.
--cut--
Johnny[/QUOTE]
I tried sending you a PM. I got an error, "Johnnykon666 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space".
Well, was planning to ask you, can we meeting in Zhuhai this Friday the 7th, Sat the 8th or Sun the 9th, if you are still in the area.
Weelock
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]With a ratio of almost 3 women to every male in Zhuhai,What do you think the City is known for in China??Why do hundreds of thousands of Taiwanes,Malaysian Chinese Males etc visit the City yearly??It is known as a paradise for men.Why do they openly tolerate the 2 sex islands???Get the picture Enjoy[/QUOTE]
Another plausible reason why a lot of M'sians flock to Zhuhai & Macau is becos of cheap air-fare by Air Asia (KL-MAcau route). The money saved on air-fare can be used for mongering or gambling...hahahaha...
Weelock,
Are you already in Zhuhai? Anyway, you picked the exact days I WON'T be in Zhuhai. Will probably be in Shenzhen or Guangzhou during that time, but not sure yet. Sorry
Johnny
[QUOTE=Dickystiffy]If you want to try cheaper walk street girl, the puplic garden facing 2000 hotel is centralized.only 60--80yuan for one shot.
Dicky[/QUOTE]Dicky, which public garden are you talking about? Is it the small green area across ZuIng Lu, basically on the intersection of ZuIng Lu and RenMin Dong Lu?
[Update: After further research, I think Dicky might be talking about the "Yuan Ming New Garden"].
I'm posting a map of the area, note that "Year 2000 Hotel" is on the corner intersection of RenMin Dong Lu and ZuIng Lu, in the XiangZhou district of ZhuHai.
I wonder if the girls are as young and cute as the girls on LianHua Lu, or not as good? If anyone is in ZhuHai, can you take a look near to "Year 2000 Hotel" and see if there is action there, and under 100 RMB?
Dar
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Why do hundreds of thousands of Taiwanes,Malaysian Chinese Males etc visit the City yearly??It is known as a paradise for men.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I remember a report from a Taiwanese show claiming that Guangdong's Pearl Delta Region, ZH in particular, is the capital of mistresses for wealthy Chinese businessmen who travels a lot.
ZH is the most popular destination for Taiwanese businessmen believe it or not to start a second family besides the one he already has in Taiwan. Shanghai and Xiamen are also pretty close ruuner ups to ZH for leasing a mistress by the month or year, with the option of end of lease purchase. yeah, i made that last part up.
That's what the girls mean when they ask you if they can be your ZH gf.
Looks like this kind of trend (exploitation) will be here for awhile as long as China has unlimited supply of pus.... I mean wholesale human resources.
Cheers
Had a chance to kill two birds with one stone in ZH yesterday
so here's a report. Searched around and found 華僑賓館桑拿
(Overseas Chinese Hotel) was closest to where I was. This
hotel is not really clustered around a bunch of other saunas
like the other places and is somewhat by itself so I thought it
might be better. Well...no. Also, thanks again to NightDragon
for he super-useful list he posted earlier in this thread. And
update to his info, the price is 198 WITHOUT FS....FS costs
200 extra to the girl. Or maybe I was ripped off? Anyway...
First of all, the sauna is in a completely separate building
than the hotel, so don't be a dumbass like me and walk around
inside the hotel on various floors looking for it. The easiest
way is to walk through the front door, make an immediate left
towards the elevators (ha, you know it's a girl friendly place
when the elevators are purposely placed purposely away from the
check-in desk). Right before the elevators, you'll see a staircase.
Go up these stairs and make a left and you should be outside now,
in the back lot of the hotel. The sauna is there, you should see it.
Go inside and you'll be shown to the men's locker room. Two guys
will eagerly take your shit and put it into a locker and hand you
the locker keys. I told them I wasn't going to use any of the sauna
facilities, just show me to the room. With their potential tip gone,
they acted indifferent as they brought me upstairs to a room.
I ask the male captain for a Coke then wait. 5 minutes later, a
mid-30s woman walks in with towels and her bag of massage goodies.
I almost blurted, "get the fuck out, old hag" but I just asked her
to leave and bring other girls. Remember this, guys, I'm sure I looked
and acted like a newbie dumbass (too nice and polite) so they tried
to stick me with "priced-to-sell" produce...
After 3 line ups, pick #12, a young cutie from Sichuan. (interesting
thing is the lineup girls had at least 4 different kinds of uniforms
on...) My cutie had a sailor uniform on which I later found out was
actually a Zhuhai middle school uniform, ha ha...
She's 20, from Chongqing and been in Zhuhai for a few months. Came
to sauna on recommendation of friend and thinks it's not bad. Lots
of HK/Taiwan/Macau guys come to this sauna but few foreigners but
she doesn't mind. She makes about 4-5 thousand RMB per month and
complains that it's pretty slow business in the past 2 months. The
male and female workers are pretty much segregated, so no real
mingling. Has 2 days off per month (!) and any sick day results in
a fine of 100 RMB. And interestingly you can "bar fine" these sauna
girls by paying 200 RMB for one day.
Why do I talk about these details instead of her service? Well,
because it sucked. Well, she tried, I guess, but she just wasn't
good. When I first saw her, I thought I would invite her back to my
place after work, but don't count the pussies before they're hatched,
I guess...
She gave a breast rub, body kiss, oily body kiss, and fire/ice treatment
(no rimming, I think because she knew I was a new guy to this sauna)
but if you choose her, you might as well skip all that. If last week's
sauna was a 7 for service, Dongguan is a 8-9 for service, then she was
a 2-3. She's trying her best, too, which is the sad thing. So, anyway,
she started giving me a CBJ and it was just OK...ha, and she's from
Sichuan, too! I just decided to let me finish me off with CBJ. After
cleanup, I asked her to give me a massage, which ranked 2-3 as well.
I actually ended up giving her a massage and chatting to her.
At first I was giving her a real massage but she complained about the
pain so I was basically groping her instead. After about 30 minutes of
groping her slim, tight body, I was ready for another round but, alas,
my 90 minutes was up. I guess it was for the better since FS would
invariably be a dead-fish experience ranking on the 2-3 scale.
198 RMB for 90 minutes room fee + 200 RMB directly to the girl.
Girl (so lame, I didn't even ask for name) was about 5'2, 100 lbs, tight,
trim, flat stomach, nice medium-sized breasts, long thin legs...basically
physically delicious. Even has a tatoo on the back of her neck, tatoo on
her hand, and a belly button piercing! But pretty wrapping for nothing...
like getting a huge gift on Christmas only to open it and realize it's a
bunch of socks or a homemade sweater.
After that, was walking around and decided to check out Year 2000 Hotel
and the supposed 80-100 ST. Saw some people dancing outdoors, which was
kooky, since it just rained and the ground was pretty muddy. Guess dance
fever is hot...
Found the Year 2000 Hotel which is right next to the Zhuhai Radio and
Television Broadcasting University. Couple of students milling about at about
9:30pm. Went back at 10:00pm and there was nobody around the hotel and
surrounding areas at all...unless the security guards were willing to do some
80-100 ST, this spot is dead. Maybe if you come back at 12 midnight or later?
Hope this helps those in/coming to ZH. I don't want to judge the
華僑賓館桑拿 (Overseas Chinese Hotel) on one visit, so I'll go again
next week.
From
Johnny
Cute looking girl. Too bad about the service. I guess you took one for the boys here.
Looking forward to see you again.
Bill
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Had a chance to kill two birds with one stone in ZH yesterday
so here's a report. Searched around and found 華僑賓館桑拿
(Overseas Chinese Hotel) was closest to where I was. This
hotel is not really clustered around a bunch of other saunas
like the other places and is somewhat by itself so I thought it
might be better. Well...no. Also, thanks again to NightDragon
for he super-useful list he posted earlier in this thread. And
update to his info, the price is 198 WITHOUT FS....FS costs
200 extra to the girl. Or maybe I was ripped off? Anyway...
First of all, the sauna is in a completely separate building
than the hotel, so don't be a dumbass like me and walk around
inside the hotel on various floors looking for it. The easiest
way is to walk through the front door, make an immediate left
towards the elevators (ha, you know it's a girl friendly place
when the elevators are purposely placed purposely away from the
check-in desk). Right before the elevators, you'll see a staircase.
Go up these stairs and make a left and you should be outside now,
in the back lot of the hotel. The sauna is there, you should see it.
Go inside and you'll be shown to the men's locker room. Two guys
will eagerly take your shit and put it into a locker and hand you
the locker keys. I told them I wasn't going to use any of the sauna
facilities, just show me to the room. With their potential tip gone,
they acted indifferent as they brought me upstairs to a room.
I ask the male captain for a Coke then wait. 5 minutes later, a
mid-30s woman walks in with towels and her bag of massage goodies.
I almost blurted, "get the fuck out, old hag" but I just asked her
to leave and bring other girls. Remember this, guys, I'm sure I looked
and acted like a newbie dumbass (too nice and polite) so they tried
to stick me with "priced-to-sell" produce...
After 3 line ups, pick #12, a young cutie from Sichuan. (interesting
thing is the lineup girls had at least 4 different kinds of uniforms
on...) My cutie had a sailor uniform on which I later found out was
actually a Zhuhai middle school uniform, ha ha...
She's 20, from Chongqing and been in Zhuhai for a few months. Came
to sauna on recommendation of friend and thinks it's not bad. Lots
of HK/Taiwan/Macau guys come to this sauna but few foreigners but
she doesn't mind. She makes about 4-5 thousand RMB per month and
complains that it's pretty slow business in the past 2 months. The
male and female workers are pretty much segregated, so no real
mingling. Has 2 days off per month (!) and any sick day results in
a fine of 100 RMB. And interestingly you can "bar fine" these sauna
girls by paying 200 RMB for one day.
Why do I talk about these details instead of her service? Well,
because it sucked. Well, she tried, I guess, but she just wasn't
good. When I first saw her, I thought I would invite her back to my
place after work, but don't count the pussies before they're hatched,
I guess...
She gave a breast rub, body kiss, oily body kiss, and fire/ice treatment
(no rimming, I think because she knew I was a new guy to this sauna)
but if you choose her, you might as well skip all that. If last week's
sauna was a 7 for service, Dongguan is a 8-9 for service, then she was
a 2-3. She's trying her best, too, which is the sad thing. So, anyway,
she started giving me a CBJ and it was just OK...ha, and she's from
Sichuan, too! I just decided to let me finish me off with CBJ. After
cleanup, I asked her to give me a massage, which ranked 2-3 as well.
I actually ended up giving her a massage and chatting to her.
At first I was giving her a real massage but she complained about the
pain so I was basically groping her instead. After about 30 minutes of
groping her slim, tight body, I was ready for another round but, alas,
my 90 minutes was up. I guess it was for the better since FS would
invariably be a dead-fish experience ranking on the 2-3 scale.
198 RMB for 90 minutes room fee + 200 RMB directly to the girl.
Girl (so lame, I didn't even ask for name) was about 5'2, 100 lbs, tight,
trim, flat stomach, nice medium-sized breasts, long thin legs...basically
physically delicious. Even has a tatoo on the back of her neck, tatoo on
her hand, and a belly button piercing! But pretty wrapping for nothing...
like getting a huge gift on Christmas only to open it and realize it's a
bunch of socks or a homemade sweater.
After that, was walking around and decided to check out Year 2000 Hotel
and the supposed 80-100 ST. Saw some people dancing outdoors, which was
kooky, since it just rained and the ground was pretty muddy. Guess dance
fever is hot...
Found the Year 2000 Hotel which is right next to the Zhuhai Radio and
Television Broadcasting University. Couple of students milling about at about
9:30pm. Went back at 10:00pm and there was nobody around the hotel and
surrounding areas at all...unless the security guards were willing to do some
80-100 ST, this spot is dead. Maybe if you come back at 12 midnight or later?
Hope this helps those in/coming to ZH. I don't want to judge the
華僑賓館桑拿 (Overseas Chinese Hotel) on one visit, so I'll go again
next week.
From
Johnny[/QUOTE]
Bill,
Johnny has been trying to get me down there for a visit. Get your ass over here soon and we can drive down together. We can walk across the border and watch your favorite parade in Macau. We might even drag Mr. B with us for the ride.
OAH
Hope Johnny doesn't turn out to be a sex addict like some people I know. Like those that need to borrow RMB to get laid.
HAHAHAHAOAHAOAHAHAHAHA
Say hello to Mr. B for me.
I read AG's report on his trip with you, Mr. B and the King of "Pain." Reminds me of so much of how kind you, Mr. B and the King were to me.
Bill
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Bill,
Johnny has been trying to get me down there for a visit. Get your ass over here soon and we can drive down together. We can walk across the border and watch your favorite parade in Macau. We might even drag Mr. B with us for the ride.
OAH[/QUOTE]
I just came home from Zhuhai today and I want to share my experience at the Holiday Inn. The Sauna in the hotel is run by owners from Macau. They state that everywhere because I think they want to make it clear it is not part of the Holiday Inn franchise.
When you arrive at the front desk, there is a menu of services. I also noticed they are open until 5AM, so immediately that told me special services should be available. It appears on the menu that normal massages are available. However, they list a "VIP" special massage for 468 RMB + "tip" which off the record was 500 RMB. The attendant would not talk specifically about the details of the service so it was assumed to be FS.
They walked me into a large private room with couches, king size bed, dry sauna, and shower. The attendent brought around 4 rounds of 5 girls each to choose from. Most of them were average, but I found one that fit the need. This girl was a 19 year old hottie, but didn't speak any english so coversation was a real challenge. She kept trying to speak in Chinese but that didn't get too far. The service was for 90 minutes. Everything was covered including the BJ. Multi positions and DATY, but no kissing. We went at it for about 45 minutes before I blew my load inside her sweet pussy. The she did a mediocre massage afterwards for about 30 minutes.
The overall cost of 968 RMB was a bit high, but for the convenience it was okay. I walked around the hotel quite a bit and didn't notice a single BBS or anything remotely offering sex services in the area. I was also paying close attention when leaving and coming back to the hotel and didn't see any either. What is the story on BBS' Zhuhai?
I also had a few drinks down on Bar Street near the Lovers Lane beach. Didn't notice much SW working the bars. Mostly foreigners and locals doing karaoke. Did I just not notice?
[QUOTE=SeattleGman]I just came home from Zhuhai today and I want to share my experience at the Holiday Inn. The Sauna in the hotel is run by owners from Macau. They state that everywhere because I think they want to make it clear it is not part of the Holiday Inn franchise.
When you arrive at the front desk, there is a menu of services. I also noticed they are open until 5AM, so immediately that told me special services should be available. It appears on the menu that normal massages are available. However, they list a "VIP" special massage for 468 RMB + "tip" which off the record was 500 RMB. The attendant would not talk specifically about the details of the service so it was assumed to be FS.
They walked me into a large private room with couches, king size bed, dry sauna, and shower. The attendent brought around 4 rounds of 5 girls each to choose from. Most of them were average, but I found one that fit the need. This girl was a 19 year old hottie, but didn't speak any english so coversation was a real challenge. She kept trying to speak in Chinese but that didn't get too far. The service was for 90 minutes. Everything was covered including the BJ. Multi positions and DATY, but no kissing. We went at it for about 45 minutes before I blew my load inside her sweet pussy. The she did a mediocre massage afterwards for about 30 minutes.
The overall cost of 968 RMB was a bit high, but for the convenience it was okay. I walked around the hotel quite a bit and didn't notice a single BBS or anything remotely offering sex services in the area. I was also paying close attention when leaving and coming back to the hotel and didn't see any either. What is the story on BBS' Zhuhai?
I also had a few drinks down on Bar Street near the Lovers Lane beach. Didn't notice much SW working the bars. Mostly foreigners and locals doing karaoke. Did I just not notice?[/QUOTE]
to seattle gman
This is very high price for zhu hai , It is macau price most sauna in zhu hai even the better one cost is half that all included and 75% of sauna in zhuhai
offer fs , Maybe they charge you the foreigner price .
fast eddie 48
Fast Eddie is right.
The price is a little high, but not outrageous. The Holiday Inn is THE hotel in Zhuhai. 4 star or not, it is the nicest hotel in town. You should have been able to get the complete package for under 700RMB. So don't think you were cheated too badly.
But to compare the price he paid to Macau is a little harsh. Try comparing that price to 1500 HKD not RMB at Darling's. Still half the price.
'lad
Took a quick trip to Lianhua Road last night. Arrived at about 11:00pm which
pretty much seemed like prime time. If you're coming from the Lianhua Bus
Station end, you have to keep walking past the first part before you get
to the action. The "green umbrella" coffee shop places near the very end
of Lianhua were totally full of guys drinking and checking out/talking to
gals. The road in general was pretty full of girls, I'd estimate about 30-40
girls total with looks ranging from 3-8.
Now, the ridiculous thing was that I hardly got any looks at all and zero
numbers. Really strange, like if there were 3 HK-type guys in front of me,
each would get a quick come on or a telephone number from various gals, and
then when they reach me, they kind of act indifferent. Maybe I was enjoying
the crazy atmosphere too much and my goofy smile threw them off, so I went
down Lianhua a second time with a more serious look...and same result. I even
gave a few of the more attractive girls direct looks in the eyes, but to no
avail. Damn, I was thinking of going into the nearest clothing shop to buy
a garish golf shirt, gold chains, terrible nerd-type glasses, and a fake
ponytail with gold tints so I could look like half the other HK guys that
were actually getting attention...or turn 40 and wear baggy jeans, a baggy
t-shirt, sneakers, and a backwards baseball cap and look like the other half
of the HK guys getting attention...after a fruitless third approach, I gave up.
There were two tall chicks (at least 5'10 each and sisters?) that looked like
pros but I could never get their attention no matter how hard I looked at them.
I watched them for a couple of minutes but they never approached anyone, just
stood there biding their time...anyone tried one/both?
So then I checked out the alleyways around Lianhua Road and was surprised that
there are actually about 8-9 BBS. It was a warm, sticky night so unless you're
blind, you'll notice the sudden groups of 5 or more girls sitting outside of
a barbershop playing cards on a table. For me, selection was generally comparable
to Guangzhou BBS (quality range of 3-7) well below Shenzhen/Dongguan (range of
6-9). Price was 150-200 ST but decided I didn't want any of those gals.
Decided to go to 2000 Year Hotel one more time to check out the surrounding
areas and parks. Pleasantly surprised there are motorcycle taxis in Zhuhai and
took one to 2000 Year Hotel from Gongbei, paying about 75% less than a taxi
and getting a nice nighttime tour of the city. After getting off the moto,
checked around and there was nothing...a couple of teenagers playing basketball
on the open courts, but that's it. I forgot who posted that this place had
cheap SW, but don't what year/month that information was accurate. As of
mid-April 2006 the 2000 Year Hotel area is a fucking WOT (waste of time).
Wasting my time so you don't have to....
Johnny
I had the same experience. Maybe i look to young. I have no idea.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Took a quick trip to Lianhua Road last night. Arrived at about 11:00pm which
pretty much seemed like prime time. If you're coming from the Lianhua Bus
Station end, you have to keep walking past the first part before you get
to the action. The "green umbrella" coffee shop places near the very end
of Lianhua were totally full of guys drinking and checking out/talking to
gals. The road in general was pretty full of girls, I'd estimate about 30-40
girls total with looks ranging from 3-8.
Now, the ridiculous thing was that I hardly got any looks at all and zero
numbers. Really strange, like if there were 3 HK-type guys in front of me,
each would get a quick come on or a telephone number from various gals, and
then when they reach me, they kind of act indifferent. Maybe I was enjoying
the crazy atmosphere too much and my goofy smile threw them off, so I went
down Lianhua a second time with a more serious look...and same result. I even
gave a few of the more attractive girls direct looks in the eyes, but to no
avail. Damn, I was thinking of going into the nearest clothing shop to buy
a garish golf shirt, gold chains, terrible nerd-type glasses, and a fake
ponytail with gold tints so I could look like half the other HK guys that
were actually getting attention...or turn 40 and wear baggy jeans, a baggy
t-shirt, sneakers, and a backwards baseball cap and look like the other half
of the HK guys getting attention...after a fruitless third approach, I gave up.
There were two tall chicks (at least 5'10 each and sisters?) that looked like
pros but I could never get their attention no matter how hard I looked at them.
I watched them for a couple of minutes but they never approached anyone, just
stood there biding their time...anyone tried one/both?
So then I checked out the alleyways around Lianhua Road and was surprised that
there are actually about 8-9 BBS. It was a warm, sticky night so unless you're
blind, you'll notice the sudden groups of 5 or more girls sitting outside of
a barbershop playing cards on a table. For me, selection was generally comparable
to Guangzhou BBS (quality range of 3-7) well below Shenzhen/Dongguan (range of
6-9). Price was 150-200 ST but decided I didn't want any of those gals.
Decided to go to 2000 Year Hotel one more time to check out the surrounding
areas and parks. Pleasantly surprised there are motorcycle taxis in Zhuhai and
took one to 2000 Year Hotel from Gongbei, paying about 75% less than a taxi
and getting a nice nighttime tour of the city. After getting off the moto,
checked around and there was nothing...a couple of teenagers playing basketball
on the open courts, but that's it. I forgot who posted that this place had
cheap SW, but don't what year/month that information was accurate. As of
mid-April 2006 the 2000 Year Hotel area is a fucking WOT (waste of time).
Wasting my time so you don't have to....
Johnny[/QUOTE]
had a chance to go check out the zhu hai nightlife again and i have to say
i'm still getting used to some of these complexities...
got to lian hua road at about 8:00pm and was pretty packed already. the
funny thing is that at this time, the number of normal girls is about equal
to working girls, so it's really interesting to guess, "is this gal looking to
make some quick cash...or better yet, could she convinced to?" don't get
slapped, though...had the same damn experience as in my earlier post.
i really must be that we're too young looking, chop sticks, and i guess in
a lot of china young = poor. i was scratching my head, wondering where
can i "hk myself" with some fake moles to glue to my face, grow a slight
beer belly, and get a natural oily seen on my face. if i actually just described
you, no offense, i was just frustrated at the type of guy getting attention
whereas i wasn't....
so, decided to head out to another on the helpful list of saunas posted
by night dragon. the 步步高 (bùbùgāo hotel) 酒店 is about a 10 minute
walk from lian hua street and i actually picked it because i overheard
some hk guys saying they would go there later but wanted to eat dinner
first. well, when i got there, my first impression was weird...and old. you
walk into the hotel and then up the spiral staircase next to the check-in
counter...past the closed-down nightclub...and into the health center. it's
actually pretty old and dingy in my opinion. i don't know what's happened
since night dragon posted, but prices seemed to have dropped across the
board for all saunas. pricing was 233 rmb for normal room for 90 minutes
and includes fs fee, 300 rmb for vip room for 90 min and fs fee. that's
right, everything included for those prices.
now, when shown the normal room, i felt like i was being shown the room
of a well-treated factory worker, which in mongering terms is barely
acceptable. looked at the vip room and felt like i was being shown the
room of a lower-ranking factory manager which is ok. overall, "old and aged"
come to mind when thinking about the room. next surprise, the lineup
consists of 4 girls, that's it, no more. what the fuck? one distinguishing
feature was that each of the girls were at least 1.65 m, so taller than
average chinese gals. looks were passable at best, ranging from 3 to
7. chose #111 who was tallest and thinest and immediately regretted
it. said she was from hunan (mongering spider sense tingling now) and
was emitting "bad-vibes" in stripping and barely touched me when washing
me. got a tray of milk, milk tea with tapoicia, ice water, hot tea...then
was about to give me cbj with the above ingredient. i flat out refused
and said for these weird ingredients, it's natural to bbbj. i could see in
her eyes she was trying to call my "newbie bluff" against her unwillingness
to do it. i said, call the manager and bring another girl. she shuddered
just slightly and said it wasn't necessary...then said all girls do cbj.
i got up to call the manager myself and she actually got up and got dressed.
she left without saying anything else. so, remember, don't be choosing
#111 unless you want a shitty time.
#136 came in and started chatting with me in funny-accented cantonese.
she said she was from chongqing (mongering spider sense tingling in a good
way this time) and she was very gfe right from the shower, with nice scrub
down and back to the bed for tit massage, excellent bbbj with all the
ingredients, and then enthusiastic cfs. afterwards, she gave a light massage
before i told her to lie down and i gave her a light massage while we chatted.
maybe it's me but i get similar stories everywhere...bad business lately...4
days off a month and 200 rmb per day penalty for another other day/takeout
...she doesn't earn much per month, about 4000-5000...split with boyfriend so
this was only steady source of good income...
name was tian tian, about 5'6, 125 lbs. (plumper but not fat), 32 b breasts
(on small side, but i liked them). great bbbj and i think she didn't do anal
rimming cause i told her i was new to sauna. yeah, i know, i keep giving up
these tossed salads cause of the truth. funny thing was as we were taking
a shower after everything, i was taking a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] while she continued showering
and suddenly she started washing my back while i was still peeing, which was
a weird new sensation. then she continued to wash my chest while positioned
behind me, and i'm still peeing at this point. then she actually washes my
penis while i'm still peeing, laughing at getting her hands sprayed by my [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url].
ha...just when you thought nothing else was going to happen...
after time was up, went to front desk and paid 300 rmb and left. no tip asked
for and no tip given. overall, it's a big, semi-clean room with a trained young
gal for 300. might as well try the normal room for 233 rmb next time, but i
don't think there will be a next time with such a small selection. they could
be lying to me, but who knows....
one additional thing was that it was raining as i was going home and as i
passed lian hua road, i got all sorts of attention as girls were desperate to
make a deal before the rain got too bad...ahhh, when i don't need it...so,
remember fellas, next time it rains, run your ass down to lian hua road for
some desperate bargains...ha ha...
johnny
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Had a chance to go check out the Zhu Hai nightlife again and I have to say
I'm still getting used to some of these complexities...
Johnny[/QUOTE]
Good report....and you call that short?
AG
He wasn't referring to the writing?
Just kidding JK666. Hope to see you soon.
Hope you gotten your Xmas present by now.
Bill
[QUOTE=Asian Gambler]Good report....and you call that short?
AG[/QUOTE]
Can someone tell me what would be the best way to go from downtown Lo Wu (around sunshine hotel) to Zhu Hai? Would it be best to take the bus from the train station or go to Shekou area and take the ferry. Thanks
[quote=csun213]can someone tell me what would be the best way to go from downtown lo wu (around sunshine hotel) to zhu hai? would it be best to take the bus from the train station or go to shekou area and take the ferry. thanks[/quote]there is a high speed ferry between shekou and zhuhai every half hour from 7am to 630 pm,trip takes 1 hour and costs 70 yuan,a bus to zhuhai costs about 80 yuan and takes about 3 hours,go by ferry
[QUOTE=Chop Sticks]I had the same experience. Maybe i look to young. I have no idea.[/QUOTE]I have young Asian looking friends likewise being ignored also Do you look local???If so Talk in English
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]I have young Asian looking friends likewise being ignored also Do you look local???If so Talk in English[/QUOTE]
I agreed to that!
There is something I found learnt in China. Young looking has no part in getting girls to turn her head and focus on you. In the mind of a girl;Young = Just started out in work and do not have much money.
What does?
1) You speak good English - 1st prove that you are a foreigner.
2) You have lots of money - don't mind buying drinks to some girls (No show off!)
3) You will be staying in China a for while, more than one month.
4) You are alonely and looking for a girlfriend. - If you are married say that you are not or your family is not here in China.
Also as a Whiteman, you are only no. 2 to a Asian foreigner. If given a choice, girls will choose an asian foreigner who speak their language. Girls also have the thinking that "Returning Chinese" must be rich or else they will not come to China.
Returning Chinese are Chinese born overseas by their definations.
Enjoy!
AG
[QUOTE=Bill Lee]He wasn't referring to the writing?
Just kidding JK666. Hope to see you soon.
Hope you gotten your Xmas present by now.
Bill[/QUOTE]
Hahaha....Bill you made my day!
AG
[quote=cebu local]there is a high speed ferry between shekou and zhuhai every half hour from 7am to 630 pm,trip takes 1 hour and costs 70 yuan,a bus to zhuhai costs about 80 yuan and takes about 3 hours,go by ferry[/quote]
thanks for the information. the ferry it is then.
Csun213:
I reckon the bus is the way to go since you are so close to the bus terminal in LuoHu unless you are keen for a boat ride. Contrary to the previous post (Sorrry, CL), it only takes about 2 hours. It will take you a good 30-40 minutes to get to Shekou depending on traffic, not to mention the taxi fare of over 50RMB.
Are you planning to be in China soon?
Just my POV.
OAH
[QUOTE=Csun213]Can someone tell me what would be the best way to go from downtown Lo Wu (around sunshine hotel) to Zhu Hai? Would it be best to take the bus from the train station or go to Shekou area and take the ferry. Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Csun213:
I reckon the bus is the way to go since you are so close to the bus terminal in LuoHu unless you are keen for a boat ride. Contrary to the previous post (Sorrry, CL), it only takes about 2 hours. It will take you a good 30-40 minutes to get to Shekou depending on traffic, not to mention the taxi fare of over 50RMB.
Are you planning to be in China soon?
Just my POV.
OAH[/QUOTE]No problem,I guess I took a shorter way,Since I started at Shekou already and only counted travel time to Zhuhai Pier,1 hour.My bus to Shenzen took 2 and a half hours plus a 15 minute pitstop midway,I stand corrected though I still think the ferry was more pleasant.Cheers
Well, just to jump into the fray, since I've had to go to Zhuhai by various means half a dozen times in less than 2 months recently, here are my experiences:
-Shenzhen Luo Hu Bus to Zhuhai Xiangzhou area: 3 hours, +/- 10 minutes
-Shenzhen Luo Hu Bus to Zhuhai Gongbei area: 2 hours and 40 min, +/- 10 minutes
-Shenzhen Luo Hu taxi to Shenzhen Shekou: 45 minutes, +/- 10 minutes
-Shenzhen Shekou ferry to Zhuhai Jiuzhou Port: 1 hour and 10 min, +/- 10 minutes
Overall, since I have a place near Luo Hu, doesn't make sense time/money wise to go to Shekou. I do think riding the ferry is much more comfortable than bus but not worth extra money and time difference evens out.
Johnny
Thanks to a lot of people I now have enough information to get to Maccu however I think I phased my question wrong since I have never been to Maccu airport which is where I want to go so I am asking a question again.
This time the question is what is the best way to go from LO WU in Shenzhen to Maccu airport? My flight is 2pm, what time should I leave Shenzhen? I am also going to post this question on the Shenzhen and Zhu Hai board hoping to get more information from the knowledge members. Thanks
i will be in guangdong in may 2006 and plan to enjoy shenzhen, guangzhou and zhuhai.
1) zhuhai information. i found this website useful. [url]http: //macauzhuhai. com/content/yellowpages. html[/url] too bad it does not list as many discos and hotels, etc.
2) earlier, someone mentioned to stay at the chang'an hotel on lianhua lu. this is also known as "zhuhai good world" hotel. but, i think the do not have highspeed internet access in the room?
3) my previous visit to zhuhai, i stayed at guangdong regency ("yuehai" hotel). i like the location very much, but my room was only 'average' quality. if someone knows a good hotel (3-star or 4-star) near to guangdong regency that is a better and cheaper, please let me know. i require a clean bed, western toilet, fresh shower & towels (i shower 3-4 times each day), and in-room safe, and highspeed internet access.
4) i was also wondering about some other gongbei / lianhua lu hotels like "gongbei palace hotel", or "jiuzhou hotel", or "chang'an, good world". i think "good world" does not have broadband internet access? also, know that there is another hotel in zhuhai, called "chang'an", located in
5) i was thinking to try a 2-day adventure -- maybe to visit to taishan islands (shanchuan island, etc), to look for the action. if someone has information about how to get there from zhuhai, and name of hotel/city where all of the girl action is -- please post info or private message me. i might try my luck there. i'm a white guy, can speak some chinese.
6) other adventure idea i have is to visit some other 'small' city in guangdong, or in hunan or other province, or chengdu, etc. if someone can recommend a place in china that has similar rates as zhuhai (st: 150-200, lt: 400-600), please let me know. because i might look into taking a bus, train, plane for a 2-day visit (if it is not too expensive for hotel + travel expense). i prefer meeting girls in bars/discos, or sw girls the most (bring to my hotel). i'm not so interested in good sauna activity or ktv, because i enjoy a longer time with a girl in my own room (and i will be travelling alone, so ktv is usually not so fun). bbs might be ok if i can take the girl to my room. it can be a smaller town, like jiangmen, or shunde, or zhongshan (in guangdong), or in another nearby province. please, email or post reccomendations if you know other good place! ?
7) when in zhuhai, i am going to try my luck looking for 'free' girls (or really cheap but pretty girls) in the local discos, and report on my luck here. yesterday disco (next to yindo hotel), shuiwan/barstreet discos, "feeling paradise entertainment plaza", and other discos. i always have lianhua lu sw girls easy to find if i need them, but want to explore other areas, like xiangzhou district, qianshan district, or discos/bars near a university (if you have recommendation of good places not in gongbei to try my luck, let me know! ).
8) i have some 2 hunnie girls in shenzhen, and in guangzhou. i might tell them to arrange to find more girls to invite to my hotel during my visit (for 3-some or 4-some activitity, or for posing for naughty photos in my hotel! ). my request might upset my 2 hunnies when i tell them to find other girls but, i can always find a new hunnie on my next visit, so i might take this gamble to ask them to find other girls. i think if i can get my hunnies to find other girls for 1-2 hours of fun, then it saves me time & effort.
9) can someone explain how the "whiskey clubs" work? often they have entertainment (dance or costume show on a stage). people sit on sofas, watching the show and drinking whiskey & beer, playing dice games, sitting with girls. can i bring my own bottle of whiskey (the duty free whiskey) into these places? what if i cannot finish the bottle of whiskey, do they keep the extra whiskey at this place for my next visit? (is my name is on the bottle? ). if i do not bring my own bottle, how much does a bottle cost to buy here? is the duty free bottle cheaper/better?
in may, i will post more information, especially zhuhai since i will have a map and more time to explore versus my previous visit.
dar
[QUOTE=Csun213]Thanks to a lot of people I now have enough information to get to Maccu however I think I phased my question wrong since I have never been to Maccu airport which is where I want to go so I am asking a question again.
This time the question is what is the best way to go from LO WU in Shenzhen to Maccu airport? My flight is 2pm, what time should I leave Shenzhen? I am also going to post this question on the Shenzhen and Zhu Hai board hoping to get more information from the knowledge members. Thanks[/QUOTE]
Ok,Here is how to use the express link service.arrive at the Macau Maritime Terminal.Follow directional signs to Express link counter.Purchase Express link ticket.check in baggage and get your temporary boarding pass.Ride special bus to airport departure hall directly.No need for immigration or customs check.Redeem your official boarding pass at information counter at departure hall. [url]www.macau-airport.com[/url] Hopefully this helps since this is as detailed as it gets.Check the ferry schedule at turbojet website cheers
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Ok,Here is how to use the express link service.arrive at the Macau Maritime Terminal.Follow directional signs to Express link counter.Purchase Express link ticket.check in baggage and get your temporary boarding pass.Ride special bus to airport departure hall directly.No need for immigration or customs check.Redeem your official boarding pass at information counter at departure hall. [url]www.macau-airport.com[/url] Hopefully this helps since this is as detailed as it gets.Check the ferry schedule at turbojet website cheers[/QUOTE]
Is the Macau Maritme Terminal at the same place as the Shekou ferry station? Thanks
[QUOTE=Csun213]Is the Macau Maritme Terminal at the same place as the Shekou ferry station? Thanks[/QUOTE]The Macau Maritime Terminal is the ferry terminal in Macau.The Shekou Terminal is in Shenzen
There is no check in service at Shekou ferry terminal to Macau airport.
Only for people going to Hong Kong airport there is check in service.
There may be check in service at Fu Yong ferry terminal to Macau airport.
But Fu Yong terminal is close to Shenzhen airport far away from downtown Shenzhen.
Ferries leaving from Fu Yong terminal go to Macau Maritime ferry terminal.
If you are going to Macau from close to Shenzhen airport that will be the choice.
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Ok,Here is how to use the express link service.arrive at the Macau Maritime Terminal.Follow directional signs to Express link counter.Purchase Express link ticket.check in baggage and get your temporary boarding pass.Ride special bus to airport departure hall directly.No need for immigration or customs check.Redeem your official boarding pass at information counter at departure hall. [url]www.macau-airport.com[/url] Hopefully this helps since this is as detailed as it gets.Check the ferry schedule at turbojet website cheers[/QUOTE]
Just want to post here to make sure that I got everything right since I am getting different PM on how to go there.
Just want to make sure that this information is correct. We would catch the ferry at Shekou ferry station for a ferry going to Macau. Is Fu Yong ferry terminal and Shekou ferry the same since I have never taken a ferry in China. The ferry would arrive at Macau Maritme Terminal. Follow signs to Express Link counter and purchase Express link ticket. Check in our baggage and get temporary boarding pass. We would then ride the special bus to airport departure hall and then to terminal for departing flight. Is this correct? If we take the 11:45am ferry from Shekou which should arrive in Macau maritime terminal at 1:30pm. Would it be enough time for a flight leaving at 2:20pm? Sorry to keep posting about this but I am coming with a New guy who have never been out of the U.S. and I have never taken a ferry at all, I just want to make sure that everything goes perfectly for him on this trip. Thanks to all who can help with this.
[QUOTE=Csun213]Just want to post here to make sure that I got everything right since I am getting different PM on how to go there.
Just want to make sure that this information is correct. We would catch the ferry at Shekou ferry station for a ferry going to Macau. Is Fu Yong ferry terminal and Shekou ferry the same since I have never taken a ferry in China. The ferry would arrive at Macau Maritme Terminal. Follow signs to Express Link counter and purchase Express link ticket. Check in our baggage and get temporary boarding pass. We would then ride the special bus to airport departure hall and then to terminal for departing flight. Is this correct? If we take the 11:45am ferry from Shekou which should arrive in Macau maritime terminal at 1:30pm. Would it be enough time for a flight leaving at 2:20pm? Sorry to keep posting about this but I am coming with a New guy who have never been out of the U.S. and I have never taken a ferry at all, I just want to make sure that everything goes perfectly for him on this trip. Thanks to all who can help with this.[/QUOTE]Yes,Click on the website of the Macau airport to confirm this,Take the earlier ferry,50 minutes is not enough time to connect.There is no check in for Macau Airport in Shenzen,you check in at the Macau Maritime Terminal OK???
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Yes,Click on the website of the Macau airport to confirm this,Take the earlier ferry,50 minutes is not enough time to connect.There is no check in for Macau Airport in Shenzen,you check in at the Macau Maritime Terminal OK???[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the information.
[QUOTE=Csun213]Thanks for the information.[/QUOTE]Please have a safe trip and write an FR if you can Cheers
OK, after reading this board and recommendations from taiwan friends, I am coming for my first time tonight for 2 days. Will be staying at year 2000 hotel. Any of you guys around for a beer?
[QUOTE=AZN Man]OK, after reading this board and recommendations from taiwan friends, I am coming for my first time tonight for 2 days. Will be staying at year 2000 hotel. Any of you guys around for a beer?[/QUOTE]AZN,
Can you find "Yuan Ming New Garden" near to 2000 Hotel? Are there girls looking for ST or LT? Are they asking under 100 RMB? Before, someone named DickyStiffy said he found some girls there, at "Yuan Ming New Garden" garden/park.
Dar
[QUOTE=Dar425]AZN,
Can you find "Yuan Ming New Garden" near to 2000 Hotel? Are there girls looking for ST or LT? Are they asking under 100 RMB? Before, someone named DickyStiffy said he found some girls there, at "Yuan Ming New Garden" garden/park.
Dar[/QUOTE]
I went there a few weeks ago several times and there wasn't shit around the area....better luck to AZN man.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]I went there a few weeks ago several times and there wasn't shit around the area....better luck to AZN man.[/QUOTE]When I got off the bus and realized how far year 2000 hotel was from lianhua rd, I canceled and rebooked at FuHai hotel which is really close to the port. There is internet in the room for around 350 rmb a night.
Tried a random sauna strolling around off LianHua road. Price was 300 rmb for 90 minutes inclusive. They had like 5 new girls starting that day from GuangZhou so I choose one. Man, she didn't know what she was doing at all. She nearly choked 3-4 times on just keeping the water in her mouth to give me tongue bath and giving bbbj. It was sad, but funny. She tried really hard, she was about a 7 in looks. Very GFE for someone so new though, she was shaking like the first time you would do a GF.
Later on that night I sat at the umbrella area until 3 am. Saw a huge fight involving some SW and guys and the police came. That was very odd to see. Didn't see any SW to my taste and only nasty ones approached me. Ended up chatting with a freebie that was about a 7 in looks. Got her a couple of drinks, asked her to go for a walk, ended up in the hotel. Thought was freebie until the morning when after breakfast she wanted some money to buy a bracelet that was like 3800 RMB! I was like, "are you crazy???" Ended up giving her 700rmb, but I think I'll try straight pro tonight... less work and less money :)
Day two, roaming around Zhu Hai. Starting the Gongbei port if you are facing the huge sign that says "Gongbei" go to your left past Lian hua road. After one street (maybe 2) if you turn left you will see a sign that reads something like:
A: 218 (bunch of chinese words)
B: 288 (bunch of chinese words)
The words are in red and the background is yellow. This place the price is all inclusive. The 218 is for the standard room and the 288 is for the VIP room. They have about 15-20 girls to choose from when I got there at around 4pm on Saturday afternoon. Girls range from 5-8. I choose 15 who was a young girl with a cute smile and big eyes. I would give her a 7. I took the VIP room because it had the bed shower. The regular room had no shower so I think you have to shower down stairs in the regular sauna. Service was good, but CBJ. Not bad for 288 all inclusive!
I will be exploring later tonight, for my last day in zhu hai before heading off to Taipei.
[QUOTE=Asian Gambler]I agreed to that!
There is something I found learnt in China. Young looking has no part in getting girls to turn her head and focus on you. In the mind of a girl;Young = Just started out in work and do not have much money.
What does?
1) You speak good English - 1st prove that you are a foreigner.
2) You have lots of money - don't mind buying drinks to some girls (No show off!)
3) You will be staying in China a for while, more than one month.
4) You are alonely and looking for a girlfriend. - If you are married say that you are not or your family is not here in China.
Also as a Whiteman, you are only no. 2 to a Asian foreigner. If given a choice, girls will choose an asian foreigner who speak their language. Girls also have the thinking that "Returning Chinese" must be rich or else they will not come to China.
Returning Chinese are Chinese born overseas by their definations.
Enjoy!
AG[/QUOTE]I got this treatment last night so today I took a different approach. Starting around 6pm after my sauna trip posted below I started walking around lian hua in sandles, shorts and t-shirt because it was pretty warm. Even dressed more casual than yesterday and being younger I wasn't getting much attention. Maybe because it was early and not many people in the streets I got a few bites. Anyway, on the way back down lian hua back to the hotel, I noticed there were a few girls walking around with older ladies and the older women would send the girls to talk to guys. I went up to the old lady and asked if she was the mommy and she said she was. I told her I want to arrange for 2 girls for tonight. She said because it was saturday night the lowest for 2 would be 1200rmb. I told her I had a friend who paid 900 rmb for LT with 2 girls before and she said that's not saturday night price.
To make a long story short, I offered 1000 and she said we can talk about it when I go with her to choose the girls. She said she had many and was sure I would be happy with the quality. I will go back to lian hua around 9-10 PM to check out the action. If I don't see anything happening I will give her a try and report back. This might be the way for young guys to get a direct link into the action!
"... There is something I found learnt in China. Young looking has no part in getting girls to turn her head and focus on you. In the mind of a girl;Young = Just started out in work and do not have much money."
But then again, ST rate is always 200. So why does it matter to them if the guy is rich or poor ?
[QUOTE=Chop Sticks]"... There is something I found learnt in China. Young looking has no part in getting girls to turn her head and focus on you. In the mind of a girl;Young = Just started out in work and do not have much money."
But then again, ST rate is always 200. So why does it matter to them if the guy is rich or poor ?[/QUOTE]
Because the rich guy might pay 300-400 instead of 200????
[QUOTE=AZN Man]I got this treatment last night so today I took a different approach. Starting around 6pm after my sauna trip posted below I started walking around lian hua in sandles, shorts and t-shirt because it was pretty warm. Even dressed more casual than yesterday and being younger I wasn't getting much attention. Maybe because it was early and not many people in the streets I got a few bites. Anyway, on the way back down lian hua back to the hotel, I noticed there were a few girls walking around with older ladies and the older women would send the girls to talk to guys. I went up to the old lady and asked if she was the mommy and she said she was. I told her I want to arrange for 2 girls for tonight. She said because it was saturday night the lowest for 2 would be 1200rmb. I told her I had a friend who paid 900 rmb for LT with 2 girls before and she said that's not saturday night price.
To make a long story short, I offered 1000 and she said we can talk about it when I go with her to choose the girls. She said she had many and was sure I would be happy with the quality. I will go back to lian hua around 9-10 PM to check out the action. If I don't see anything happening I will give her a try and report back. This might be the way for young guys to get a direct link into the action![/QUOTE]
All girls are "mamasan" if you ask one; she will says that she is mama, but she also does services as well. In my experience, if you don't like her (mama) and go for another "One of her friend" she introduce she will get a "Commission" for the girl you take back. Or she may pick up the phone and call a few to let you chose. And also get commission for them => This is call "Co-brokage". In places especially like Lian Hua Lu, they will declare you as their "client' once you start speaking to them they will follow you around until you say yes, regardless of whether you want her or another girl which she will "introduce" you to, unless they spotted another "client" which they think has better potential.
There are only a few real mamasan, which they call, "Auntie" these Auntie works in the backgound and unless there are negotiations that the girl cannot handle or sitiuation like you want 4some (or something like that) the "auntie" will never show up. The Auntie likely have some connections with the gangsters or police and operates the business by collecting protection money "Commission" from the girls.
So typical if you are "introduce" to the girl you finally took back, and pays 300 it is likely that the girl only ended up with 100, the Auntie takes 100 and the "broker" takes 100.
I was fortunate to enough to get to know 2 of these "auntie" operating in Zhuhai and was told that the system in China works very much the same in most of the cities.
What it means by knowing the system? It means that you are likely to get a better price if you negotiate with the service provider rather than the "broker".
Enjoy!
AG
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Because the rich guy might pay 300-400 instead of 200????[/QUOTE]
There is a little more than that;
Rich guy may even get the girls for "Free" because the girls are also looking for long term BF or suger daddy. Of course free may not means free because you buy now and pay later..... ;-)
Enjoy!
AG
[QUOTE=Asian Gambler]There is a little more than that;
Rich guy may even get the girls for "Free" because the girls are also looking for long term BF or suger daddy. Of course free may not means free because you buy now and pay later..... ;-)
Enjoy!
AG[/QUOTE]Nothing is free,Eventually you pay one way or another,A rich overseas Chinese client of mine scored a freebie with his tourist guide in Zhuhai But......He will be back this June to "invest"in a Zhuhai Condo Guess who will be staying there.......Best regards
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Nothing is free,Eventually you pay one way or another,A rich overseas Chinese client of mine scored a freebie with his tourist guide in Zhuhai But......He will be back this June to "invest"in a Zhuhai Condo Guess who will be staying there.......Best regards[/QUOTE]
Right On CL..! :-)
As I said, only the real good mongers, get in fast and get out fast!
Enjoy!
AG
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Because the rich guy might pay 300-400 instead of 200????[/QUOTE]
Rich doesnt mean stupid ;)
[QUOTE=Chop Sticks]Rich doesnt mean stupid ;)[/QUOTE]
Well... you know what?? I saw with my very own eyes, A lot of rich and stupid guys (which I don't think anyone of us on ISG are), in Shanghai getting scammed in Bars.
If you did read one of my past posting; Two guys playing pools with the girls; Trying to "impressed" the girls by their skills on the table. They wins, they buy drinks, the girls drink. They lose they buy shots, they drink. Either way, they lose because they are always buying drinks. I know some of those girls who are 10 times better player than them; but will pretend to lose...
And also one of my old posting: This guy thought that he had a great freebie and temp GF in Shanghai because he lived in Shanghai one week a month. After a few free session, she brought her for shopping, and even ended up giving lots of cash, only to find that one fine day, this girlfriend disappeared without a trace!
There are still a lot of Rich but stupid guys out there. I wish they join the ISG and read!
AG
Yes, they are called aunties. In fact you can call any of the girls and ask them who their auntie is. They will give you their number and you can arrange any of their girls. What I actually ended up doing was befriending a green umbrella girl and told her I was interested. I would ask her questions like "is she a pro?" "is she good looking?" she answered me honestly and since she's been there for a few years she told me many girls are unattractive and who to talk to. Ended up taking 2 young sichuan girls on her suggestion for 1000 rmb LT. Worked out pretty well for me.
Salute to all the bros here for your forum. Just come back from zhuhai. Stay at the grand bay view hotel that cost me rmb500. The room is ok but still not good as the miraton hotel in chang ping. Went to the karaoke with 4 of my friends and the rate here is 3: 8: 12 which I think is very expensive but no choice (my little brother insist it). Order 3 bottles of black label andspend rmb2, 500. 00 in the karakoke including the tips to mummy and the boy. The girls here is ok and I rate it at least 6-9. Bring the girls back after the ktv session to have the cultural exchange. Quite sop and gfe feeling.
Well...had one hour to kill so I decided to do a strategic strike on
Lianhua Road. But, again, frustrating results.
Maybe I really do need to wear garish and ridiculous clothing, comical
glasses, and walk around like I own the place? I got about 3 girls who
smiled at me ON THE BUS compared to the zero attention I got once
I was on Lotus Road....damn, the two times I thought, "Fuck it, time
to approach directly and ask to their face" I was stopped dead in my
tracks because of a trailing boyfriend/husband....ha ha...
I approached one smokin' hot gal dressed in some really tight jeans and
a barely-there baby t-shirt but she just kind of looked at me like she
wasn't sure if I was kidding or something or I just don't know...but she
kept walking and same thing happened with another smokin' hot gal...
the funny thing is that these two hot gals (and several others) ended
up walking into this disco. I forgot the name, but it's directly behind the
green umbrella-type shops that are closest to the Gongbei Bus Station.
These are the much-less-popular umbrella shops compared to the ones
at the far end of Lotus Road. Anyone know what this disco is or been to?
Well, with another strangely frustrating experience, I've now put the goal
in mind to start sampling these SWs sooner or later plus some ZH freebies.
Trouble is, I'm never here for more than a few days, but I'll make it happen.
Stay tuned.
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Well...had one hour to kill so I decided to do a strategic strike on
Lianhua Road. But, again, frustrating results.
Maybe I really do need to wear garish and ridiculous clothing, comical
glasses, and walk around like I own the place? I got about 3 girls who
smiled at me ON THE BUS compared to the zero attention I got once
I was on Lotus Road....damn, the two times I thought, "Fuck it, time
to approach directly and ask to their face" I was stopped dead in my
tracks because of a trailing boyfriend/husband....ha ha...
I approached one smokin' hot gal dressed in some really tight jeans and
a barely-there baby t-shirt but she just kind of looked at me like she
wasn't sure if I was kidding or something or I just don't know...but she
kept walking and same thing happened with another smokin' hot gal...
the funny thing is that these two hot gals (and several others) ended
up walking into this disco. I forgot the name, but it's directly behind the
green umbrella-type shops that are closest to the Gongbei Bus Station.
These are the much-less-popular umbrella shops compared to the ones
at the far end of Lotus Road. Anyone know what this disco is or been to?
Well, with another strangely frustrating experience, I've now put the goal
in mind to start sampling these SWs sooner or later plus some ZH freebies.
Trouble is, I'm never here for more than a few days, but I'll make it happen.
Stay tuned.
J[/QUOTE]Carry a Zhuhai Tourist Information map which you can get everywhere,It proclaims you are not a local.Talk always in English Initially,If all else fails ,I believe you are Asian American,Wear An American themed cap with US Flag or Canadian Flag.My Chinese Canadian friend did this wearing a Canadian Flag on his Backpack and a Vancouver Cap with the Canadian Flag.You will be surprised how many potential freebies he got??Are You Canadian ??YES Are You single??YES Do you want Zhuhai Girlfriend???Get the picture.Overseas Chinese=Money or Overseas Chinese=Boyfriend.Happy Hunting
Hey CL,
I'm laughing wondering if this is your humorous way to make me walk around
looking like a tool or if it's real...
But either way, I'll give it a shot, can't get any worse than what's going on
now, ha...look for the asshole in the flag hat, flag t-shirt, flag pants, flag shoes,
flag underware, and flag face paint...
Also, tried to send you a PM but your inbox is full.
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Hey CL,
I'm laughing wondering if this is your humorous way to make me walk around
looking like a tool or if it's real...
But either way, I'll give it a shot, can't get any worse than what's going on
now, ha...look for the asshole in the flag hat, flag t-shirt, flag pants, flag shoes,
flag underware, and flag face paint...
Also, tried to send you a PM but your inbox is full.
J[/QUOTE]
CL is right. Overseas Chinese=Money or Overseas Chinese=Boyfriend.
With additions:
If given a choice, those Chinese girl prefer to have Chinese oversea BF than a white BF not because the Overseas China is rich, Westerner are rich too! But mainly is because :
1) It is easier for them to communicate with Oversea Chinese than a Westerner.
2) Westerner is known to be "Big" ;) you know what I meant...
3) Likelyhood of conviencing a Oversea Chinese to move home to China is much higher than trying to tell a Westerner to spend the rest of his life in China.
4) It is very much a pride of the girls if they return to their home with a Rich oversea Chinese as BF, than a Westerner. Because back at home in their village home town, they are still not very exposed to Westerner and the acceptablities of Westerner is still very low. Back in those rural home towns, their thinking are still very traditional.
Although many chinese want to get out of China, in a way, they also wants to return and spend their last years in China. Many Chinese just wants to get out of China because they want freedom and not that they do not like their home country. They still wants to be back with their family, and their family is back here in China!
These are based on my observation and studies of the Chinese culture.
AG
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Hey CL,
I'm laughing wondering if this is your humorous way to make me walk around
looking like a tool or if it's real...
But either way, I'll give it a shot, can't get any worse than what's going on
now, ha...look for the asshole in the flag hat, flag t-shirt, flag pants, flag shoes,
flag underware, and flag face paint...
Also, tried to send you a PM but your inbox is full.
J[/QUOTE]
Oh by the way:
Been able to speak Chinese is a great step towards picking up freebies, or girls!
AG
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Hey CL,
I'm laughing wondering if this is your humorous way to make me walk around
looking like a tool or if it's real...
But either way, I'll give it a shot, can't get any worse than what's going on
now, ha...look for the asshole in the flag hat, flag t-shirt, flag pants, flag shoes,
flag underware, and flag face paint...
Also, tried to send you a PM but your inbox is full.
J[/QUOTE]Its Clear,I just cleaned it out.But It really works Sad,But effective.My friend is overseas Chinese from Canada and the guy going with me to GZ is a young rich Filipino Overseas Chinese.He is bringing a Philippine Cap and stuff to project he is not local.Cheers
Though it might be a good way to pick up girls/freebies, it also brings other unwanted attention as well. Beggers and thieves keep their eyes open wide, especially fixating on the ones who do not look local. Also, there are more and more scams designed to trap the returning natives as well. But I think most of regular visitors to this forum are aware of them.
Have fun and be safe
Leo
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Its Clear,I just cleaned it out.But It really works Sad,But effective.My friend is overseas Chinese from Canada and the guy going with me to GZ is a young rich Filipino Overseas Chinese.He is bringing a Philippine Cap and stuff to project he is not local.Cheers[/QUOTE]
Ha ha...at this rate, you might as well make cheesy, custom baseball caps and
lead a group of Chinese dudes wearing BS clothing around with a flag...
J
Stayed at the GD Regency (YueHai) at the end of LianHua Road for one night.
The Lotus Road, the shops near the Gongbei customs, and pretty much the whole Gongbei District is packed for the 5-1 labor holiday.
Make a long story short, there were way more tourists today than working girls, and more police presence too, so the girls were just lining on road side passing out cards with I guess Mamasan's phone number to arrange the meeting. Young girls will pass you a card if you make eye contact with her, which I started to avoid after seeing 3 very similar cards.
But here is the thing, there were a couple of street vendors close to mid-section of the road tended by a lady but swarmed by about 15-20 young girls crouching around vigorously fighting for a bargain among this big pile of lady shoes and accessories on a blue tarp. I approached the mayhem curious what is being sold, when I got close, the lady looked up straight at me and said very casually, "sir, come come, can I find a pretty young girl for you?" I stared at her for awhile and was like WTF? Then I looked around me and realized what was going on, I didn't answer her and just quietly went back to the main road.
A girl about 5 in looks approached me shortly after that and asked "want to take me? want to take me?" I shooked my head and she followed me for about 3 seconds then dissapeared into this sea of humanity that poured into ZH for the last 3 days.
More sauna report later. (Moon Bay Sauna in Popoko Hotel)
BTW, I challange anyone find an item in Gongbei 500rmb or more. Make that 400. : )
HatTrick
Fellows, not sure if ST means Streetwalker? But Streetwalkers opposit 2000Year hotel are only 60-100 RMB dependin on their age, and that includes full program!
Peter (Recently moved from Shenzhen to Zhuhai)
[QUOTE=Chop Sticks]"... There is something I found learnt in China. Young looking has no part in getting girls to turn her head and focus on you. In the mind of a girl;Young = Just started out in work and do not have much money."
But then again, ST rate is always 200. So why does it matter to them if the guy is rich or poor ?[/QUOTE]
In this context ST means short time.
[QUOTE=peterhk]Fellows, not sure if ST means Streetwalker? But Streetwalkers opposit 2000Year hotel are only 60-100 RMB dependin on their age, and that includes full program!
Peter (Recently moved from Shenzhen to Zhuhai)[/QUOTE]Peter,
If you read Posts #412 and #411 and #377, you will see people have a problem to find the girls near 2000 Year hotel..
Are they there during daytime or only at night? Do they come to your hotel room for the 60-100 RMB, for 1 hour shorttime?
Peter, use the MAP in post #377, please download it then edit/draw where the girls are... thanks!
Dar
They're only during night time. Even late at 2-3 am. They don't have a room, so you can choose 10 RMB room near (not secure but works out fine), or bring them to hotel.
60 RMB is however for the 35 years+ girls, usually service is ... not bad but nothing to expect. They want to get it done asap.
100 RMB you can get really cute and young girls. Will try to find the map you described. But if you take a taxi at Hotel 2000, it just moves 2 minutes. There is a fairly new 3-Tower-Appartment-Towers, facing the hotel 2000.
It's in the sidealley of those 3 towers on the left.
Peter
[QUOTE=Dar425]Peter,
If you read Posts #412 and #411 and #377, you will see people have a problem to find the girls near 2000 Year hotel..
Are they there during daytime or only at night? Do they come to your hotel room for the 60-100 RMB, for 1 hour shorttime?
Peter, use the MAP in post #377, please download it then edit/draw where the girls are... thanks!
Dar[/QUOTE]
Had some Karaoke with friends last night at China City.
The disco itself there is very "local", the Karaoke rooms not very new.
All girls they brought for the room were said to be 18, but I hardly believed that. Some of the disco girls they brought in (because we refused the standard girls) looked 15-17. Be carefull!
*Some technical info for those not familiar with Chinese and/or
Zhuhai: the bus stop for the area is "bing hai lou (滨海楼) which
you can also print/speak as directions for a taxi driver. You
could also say "liang chen nian jiu dian (2000 Year Hotel)".
Either should work fine.*
Following PeterHK's semi-clear directions, I got to the area at about
1am and walked around the Year 2000 Hotel before I realized that the three
"new" apartment buildings are diagonally across from the Year 2000 Hotel.
I was going to draw a map, but I decided to save a thousand words and take
a picture instead (see attached pic). In the unlikely even that you STILL
can't find them, ask the someone where the basketball courts are then go
to street on the far left side of them.
Now, as PeterHK stated, the cheap hos are to the left of the buildings
if you are facing them. Takes 5-10 minutes to walk from Year 2000 Hotel
to the street. It's not very well lit and you can see some SWs standing
along the streets and sidewalks. I heard low wispering and saw several
slow-cruising cars as I approached the street, so I knew I was in the
right place. I took a quick walk down the street and found only about
6 hos in total, not including the 3 that were picked up by cruising cars
as I was walking around. Quality was from 2-7 as far as I can tell, but
like I said, lighting is pretty dark and you would have to walk up to
the girl to really see her face.
Decided to go for the safe bet and found a woman resembling a middle age
cafeteria food server. Add a hair-net, rubber gloves, and I'm ready to
recieve a scoop of watery mashed potatoes from her...
She started at 100 before quickly negotiating to two shots for 100 RMB total
at my place. She pushed a short-time room nearby with rates of 10 RMB per
20 minutes...ha ha, now that's practical pricing...
Took her back to my place, showered, and she gave a great BBBJ with plenty
of ball licking and anal rimming. Did some CFS then took off condom and
jerked off into her mouth and she immediately finished with a nice slow cleanup
suck before going to the bathroom to spit it out. Now, here's where it gets
weird...I layed down for a minute enjoyed the sensation before going to
the bathroom and noticing that she was using my toothbrush! I laughed and
took a shower then decided that I wouldn't go for the second shot. Had
enough of looking at cafeteria woman. She got kind of pissed talking about
how she didn't lick everyone's ass and give such great BBBJ for such low
prices...I supressed my laughing then agreed to give her 60 RMB before kicking
her out.
Didn't take a pic for fear that my camera would immediately explode from being
exposed her unique beauty. Great service, but I wouldn't really want to do
her again unless I was desperate for someone to lick my ass and provide CIM.
Overall, it's another place to go hunting in ZH for mongers but with lower
quality and lower prices. All of these Year 2000 girls/old women would be
laughed off Lian Hua road, so it's definately a different flavor. I'll go
again a bit earlier to see if there are better looking, younger girls and
report back.
Slowly but surely, ZH is opening up for me...
J
Nice "triple towers" report Johnny;
Sorry we couldn't hook up last trip. From the King of Shenzhen you're rising to princely status in Zhuhai.
But after reports like this it really makes me want to come and visit you for exploration of the dark side of ZH.
So far, nothing compares to your bomb shelters of Guangzhou or Cronin's catacombs of Chanping.
I hope you keep searching buddy. Cafeteria Lady story sounds like trench warfare at it's best ;-)
Cappy, you better watch what you're stating or I'll get beatdowns from
the real Kings of Shenzhen, OAH/Tangzhen/Jazziton/Tangent/Bob Builder...
Anyway, to add another (final?) chapter to the Triple Towers/Year 2000
Hotel SWs, I went back again last night, this time at about 11:45pm.
Directions to the area are in my previous post.
This time, it was more clearly evident that SWs were present along the
street. There were still the same half dozen or so SWs in the shadows
near the middle of the street, but this time there were about 12-15 SWs
at the beginning of the block, openly flagging down cars and showing
themselves off. As I approached them, a group of 5 middle-aged Chinese
guys were already causing a frenzy of bargaining and selling among the
gals. When I got close to this whole group, they asked me if I was part
of the male group and I said no, which caused the group of "rejected
gals" to gather around me. At this point, the 5 Chinese guys and 5 SWs
crossed the street on their way to...Year 2000 Hotel. Damn, there's no
convenience stores around that hotel, but no problem to go downstairs
and pick up half a dozen SWs...
Anyway, my take on the entire group of gals, including the ones that
went with the Chinese guys, is that they are very mid-range talent that
wouldn't make it in any other market...would be laughed off Lian Hua Road,
rarely picked in a typical BBS, and definitely go customer-less on most
nights at a bar. Low-priced convenience is their main (only?) selling point.
Actually, another way to describe these particular SWs is if you went to
12-15 BBS and took the MAMASANS plus 1-2 of their less popular gals and had
them all work the streets; kind of like when Russell was a player-coach for the
Celtics, except instead of being tall, black, and defensively skilled in basketball,
these mamasans are past their prime, have too much makeup, and probably have
multiple STDs...
So, decided to pick Ah Ma (like horse) and got opening price of 100 RMB
to go back to my place. She had great legs, which got me, but when she stripped
for our shower, I saw that she was really thin, had barely-handful A cups
(hello, padded bra!), and generally reminded me of a junkie...and she was
from Hubei...
She pushed for all night at 400 RMB but I said I want to see what kind of
service she gave first...bad idea. After a very standard BBBJ and CFS, we
were resting on the bed when I said, "OK, time for you to go." She got really
upset because she felt she gave "great service" in hopes of getting all-night
from me and I was cheating her now...what??! Ha ha...after arguing about this
ridiculousness (strained my Chinese skills, but good practice) she finally
decided to leave with 130 + 10 RMB taxi. I should have added, "You didn't
even lick my ass, you ****!" but I didn't know how to say it with the proper
insult, ha ha...
Attached is her pic and if you are desperate for a 100 RMB fuck (or 140 for
"great" service, ha...) call her: 13*32263251 [can PM me for missing number
or just try them all...my small measure of privacy for her...] And to let you
get a bearing on my SW looks ratings, she would be about a 3-4 in my eyes.
And, according to her, the hierarchy at the Triple Tower area is that the SWs
closer to the beginning of the road (and the light) are younger and more
expensive, and as you go down the road, it starts degrading in terms of age
and possibility of disease....I guess something like SW at beginning of the
block: 25 years old, looks like a drug addict, has common cold....SW at the
end of the block: 48 years old, looks like cafeteria lady, has full-blown AIDS...
Enough of this area, time to check out other places...
J
After a couple nights of weird science experimenting with those "lovely"
ladies at the Year 2000 Hotel, I decided to go away...far far away for a
new experience.
Went to Lian Hua Road and got ignored by the hot young gals patroling
the streets again, but my smiles to them were greeted by smiles back...
then they walked up to some other middle-aged HK guy. Believe me, I
would walk up to them directly and start negotiating, but I'm really paranoid
about co-workers and bosses seeing me...if you've never been on this
road, it's extrememly well-lit, popular, and everybody in ZH walks around
here...
On a side note, of all the hot young gals I saw, at least 70-80% of them
were heading to or heading out of some disco. If you go to the less-popular
green umbrella places near the Gongbei Bus Station, behind them is something
called the "Angus Restaurant." The disco is in this building on the second
floor. Anybody been here? I'll check this place out later this week.
Anyway, walked around the alleys connected to Lian Hua Road. Surprisingly,
there are at least 12 BBS in the alleys with 3-7 gals in each. The quality is
comparable to most BBS places, about 4-7 with a few 8s. I saw down with
one papasan and negotiated to bring one of his stable of tall, thin, white-
clothed gals home. He quoted 200 RMB for 1 shot without a real time limit.
I tried to negotiate but he said that the gals wouldn't go with me for any
less. For the sake of experience, I relented. I also asked him for his
recommendation of a gal (which is definately hit or miss...). He chose Ah
Qing for me, 22, from Fujian. Nice long, lean body with small perky breasts,
about a 7-7.5 for the body and a nice but plain face rating about a 6. Her
number is: 13*39573599. (PM me for last number or you can try them all
out...incidentially, the missing number is the same as for Horse...I guess
there must be a China Mobile special for SWs...)
Took taxi home, had nice shower, and got standard BBS service; BBBJ and
CFS. Gave her 200 RMB plus 10 RMB for taxi and she was happy. She said
that she does about 2-3 guys a day and up to 8-9 guys a day when it's
busy...ha ha, thanks for the yummy details...
If anyone wants to check out that disco, give me a message.
From,
J
Johnny,
Thaks for the compliment but I would rather remain a commoner as it attract less unwanted attention.
Have problems getting a SW to leave. Tellng them you want uncovered anal after the first shot cause you can't get it up otherwise gets rid of 99.99%.
Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]She said
that she does about 2-3 guys a day and up to 8-9 guys a day when it's
busy...ha ha, thanks for the yummy details...
J[/QUOTE]
Its true guys, check out my old report. One of my girls had dirt in her pussy!
How long are you in Zhuhai, Johnny ?
Had another look at 石岐. It's a really stunning place. That could be China of the future. It's so civilized that cars even stop at red lights. And not only that, they use turning lights - when turning! It's also very clean and has a nice city planning.
But that's not what you want to hear I guess.....
This time I stayed overnight. I had a stroll around the International Hotel. Quite a large number of SW there. So that it's a good place to stay. I stayed in the "Xiang Shan Hotel", a 2-star for 152.
The Sauna on the 4th floor is quite aggressive in offering their service. They had a all-in for 400 - which was later reduced to 280 (or so, I forgot). Some girls looked quite nice.
But I had a late walk. 石岐 seems to have no BBS at all. Hair dressers really cut hair! Well, and the one next door (leave hotel, turn sharp right) offered massage for 25 per hour - and sure, hotel service no problem.
The girl showed up a few minutes later. Together with 'mama'. Mama wanted 100, ok..... whatever - and left. The girl was a short and tender girl from Sichuan. Very sweet and lovely. A real fun type. I gave her another 200 for ST (I know way too much). But it was a nice and long session and she was 100% GF. Was still ST, I don't like LT for security reasons.
I also met a 20+ year old QQ date. But she had a Goofy like personality and a "Hallo Kitty" like dress sense. In short, very infantile. So we had a drink in McD. (her choice) and that was it.
No sex with Children! No matter what age they are!
Hey DayNight,
What is this place? I assume it's near Zhuhai since you're posting in the Zhuhai section. Anyway directions on getting there?
Also, anyone know how far Nansha is from Zhuhai by bus?
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Hey DayNight,
What is this place? I assume it's near Zhuhai since you're posting in the Zhuhai section. Anyway directions on getting there?
Also, anyone know how far Nansha is from Zhuhai by bus?
J[/QUOTE]Zhongshan is about a 30 minute drive away from Zhuhai.Its an Industrial City with 10 daily ferries to Hong Kong,Its located on the road between Zhuhai and GZ and SZ
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Hey DayNight,
What is this place? I assume it's near Zhuhai since you're posting in the Zhuhai section. Anyway directions on getting there?
Also, anyone know how far Nansha is from Zhuhai by bus?
J[/QUOTE]
see message below. It's really good for a family visit. It's not really a sex destination, if you had that in mind.
Some year ago I was befriended with a cop from ZS City and he also told that there are street brothels. Other then around Int. Hotel I did not see many, but I am sure there are areas that cater for locals. I presume a friendly taxi driver can help.... (and that applies to ANY city in China)
Recently I was in Zhuhai, with the need to get to Nansha. I asked 3 people at the hotel for advice regarding the bus to the Nansha ferry. Got three different times. Varying from 45 minutes to three hours. When I called my friend who was to meet me he said take a taxi.
The taxi took 45 minutes and cost $60.
Hope that helps
Harihara
[QUOTE=Hari Hara]Recently I was in Zhuhai, with the need to get to Nansha. I asked 3 people at the hotel for advice regarding the bus to the Nansha ferry. Got three different times. Varying from 45 minutes to three hours. When I called my friend who was to meet me he said take a taxi.
The taxi took 45 minutes and cost $60.
Hope that helps
Harihara[/QUOTE]
Thanks. Did you have to bargain with the taxi? 45 minutes is a long time/distance for only 60 RMB....or was that 60 USD?
J
So I got a chance to wander around some more and I'll combine the information
I discovered over a couple days into one short report.
I went to the Overseas Chinese Hotel again and was about to partake in their
sauna before thinking better of wasting 400 RMB on a mediocre experience. I
wandered to the end of the block and checked out the small park where there
were a lot of people just hanging out (about 9pm at this point). There was
one nice looking young girl looking at me with some interest, but in the end
I think she wasn't a pro and I wasn't in the mood to initiate anything that
wouldn't lead to some satisfaction that night. Walked around and discovered
that this was where the Richmond Hotel is. I had searched unsuccessfully last
time for this place after seeing Night Dragon's report on the place.
The complex looks pretty nice, like an upscale hotel (880 RMB per night for a
normal twin room!) and an apartment community all in one area. Now, I guess
there must be a ton of unseen construction going on, so note the following
list:
-Fitness Center, Beauty and Hair Salon, Sauna and Massage Center, Swimming Pool,
Tennis Court, Golf Putting Green
These are all the hotel amenities NOT AVAILABLE...ha ha, that right, NOT
ready/NOT finished construction apparently. The front desk guy did helpfully
add that the swimming pool may be filled with water by Monday night...it was so
ridiculous that at the end, I gave him a hotel brochure and asked him to mark what
WAS available because the first 3 things I asked him were not available. I
don't understand what monkey-ass company is managing this hotel...
So, onto Lian Hua road...and more smiles from the girls but no direct approaches.
I'm still paranoid about being seen by people I work with, so I didn't do any direct
approaching. Ended up exploring around the BBS areas again, this time more carefully
and slowly. Actually discovered an additional 8-10 BBS shops. If you walk to the
end of Lian Hua Road with the green umbrella shops (not the bus station area ones)
then make an immediate right. Walk down the street for about 5 minutes then explore
all the little alleys to your right and left. Shouldn't be a problem recognizing
them. I got the standard offer of 150 RMB fuck in/take out. Quality ranged from 4s
to 6s with occasional 7s and one 8.
Some may disagree, but after many opportunities to observe the gals, my opinion is
that there is no other area in China where the general SWs can match the looks and
price level of the ones on Lian Hua road. I can't think of any area where you can
find (with little difficulty) 7s, 8s, and occasional 9s on a consistent basis for
200 RMB ST. What do others think? Since I haven't experienced their service (yet),
I'm just commenting on price/looks. Also, saw at least half a dozen white guys
hanging out at the green umbrella area today. Any ISG members? How about you two
surfer-looking guys? Looks like you two were having a fun time...ha...
Anyway, ended up going to the sauana/massage place directly behind the green
umbrella places (not the bus station ones). I don't know why more isn't said about
the general sauna prices in Zhuhai, but they are a real bargain. This sauna place's
price is about the same as all the others: 168 for plain room and two massage tables
pushed together, 230 for nicer room with bed and shower, and 280 for nicer room with
bed and shower and shower bed for body-to-body wash. All these prices INCLUDES THE FS
AND 90 MINUTES OF SERVICE. No tip or extra money to the girl, unless you want to.
Ended up choosing #36 or #55, I forgot, but about 5'5, 110lbs, from Sichuan who had
a happy, bubbly personality and gave a soft yet passionate GFE. The service wasn't
technically as great as the saunas in Dongguan, but she made me feel like I was with
my gf who is a "good girl", including body cleaning with her breasts (including rubbing
my feet on her breasts which was surprisingly erotic), fire/ice BJ, DFK, and CFS.
Now, I just need to find one who will give me crazy animalistic service...Sorry, no
pics this time but Xiao Hua was plain with a hint of cuteness, like the quiet Asian girl
in biology class that was smart enough, but not super-smart, ha, ha...
Paid the 280 at the desk and Xiao Hua immediately gets some kind of voucher signifying
that she earned 100 from that amount. She told me she earns 100 whatever level of room.
So, where else in China could you find a young girl/clean room package for 168RMB? And
throw in a shower and bed for 60RMB? Zhuhai, "the romantic city" (the ZH government's
slogan)...
J
Also, while walking around, plenty of travel agents advertising
one-way tickets from Zhuhai to Shanghai for 299 RMB...what
the hell's going on?? Didn't see ZH to other cities listed for this
price...
J
I have passed through Zhuhai twice during the past two weeks and I tried Jiāotōng Dàshà Sāngná ( 交通大廈桑拿 ) on both occasions.
First time I went in and requested a RMB 288 VIP room. I was taken straight to a bedroom with a connecting huge bathroom and wash/massage table. I was shown 4 girls and I chose # 15 (her name was something like "Kien Kien"), a very cute and petite young girl. We undressed, she set up the massage table and I layed down. The was routine was quite nice, multiple scrubs, massage with cream and body slide, back and front. No BBBJ or AR during this part. After about 45 minutes she dried me and led me to the bed. Service was standard CBJ (I prefer this for STD prevention), fire & ice, change of condoms then cowgirl. She made the loveliest noises while I was inside her and she was very tight, so I came much more quickly than usual. Because we finished early, she invited me to relax while she gave me a nice, soft back and shoulder massage. She then helped me dress, bid farewell (we had a total of about 4 words in our common languages!) and I went downstairs to pay before leaving, RMB 300 including a small tip.
Next time I went back, about a week later, it was late, so I decided to stay in the place for the night. I was able to communicate that I wanted the VIP room again and that I wanted to sleep afterwards. I was led to a hotel style room (typical Chinese 2 star standard, no wash table though). The mamasan brought in a rather ordinary and slightly fat girl, which surprised me (I expected a line up) and, though I was a little embarassed, I asked her to get some more girls for me to look at. The mamasan and the girl left and the mamasan came back a few minutes later with a line up of 5 lovelies. I chose one named She Li (I can't remember her number), very slim and shapely with a gorgeous smile. Note to all of you, don't let the mamasan palm off a fugly because she thinks you are a chisin gweilo, this place has plenty of babes to choose from. As soon as the door was closed, She Li ran up to me and jumped into my arms like we were long lost lovers. We showered together, then we enjoyed the usual CBJ, sex in many positions, another shower, then more sex (yes, she gave me two pops after I requested more action). I think she also came once or twice, which I liked as part of the deal. While not as competent as some service providers, this girl was very sweet and it was very much a GFE throughout. I paid her directly, as the front desk would be closed the following day from 2:00am to mid-day, including a RMB 100 tip on top of the normal RMB 288. Sheli did something really sweet before she left, she fetched me a duvee to keep me warm while I slept and ordered me some noodles and a drink as she was leaving the room.
The next morning I went downstairs and was let out by cleaning staff (the front door was locked).
I would recommend this place. It is good value, the two girls I've had so far were very sweet and performed well and (aside from the attempt at giving me a sumo wrestler on my 2nd visit) provides a pretty honest service.
[QUOTE=AZN Man]Day two, roaming around Zhu Hai. Starting the Gongbei port if you are facing the huge sign that says "Gongbei" go to your left past Lian hua road. After one street (maybe 2) if you turn left you will see a sign that reads something like:
A: 218 (bunch of chinese words)
B: 288 (bunch of chinese words)
The words are in red and the background is yellow. This place the price is all inclusive. The 218 is for the standard room and the 288 is for the VIP room. They have about 15-20 girls to choose from when I got there at around 4pm on Saturday afternoon. Girls range from 5-8. I choose 15 who was a young girl with a cute smile and big eyes. I would give her a 7. I took the VIP room because it had the bed shower. The regular room had no shower so I think you have to shower down stairs in the regular sauna. Service was good, but CBJ. Not bad for 288 all inclusive!
I will be exploring later tonight, for my last day in zhu hai before heading off to Taipei.[/QUOTE]
I'm just about to leave the internet bar right now after a quick stopover to
check/send email, and in the one hour I've been here, at least 20 SW-looking
gals have walked in...what's going on? They all just head to a computer and
start playing online games and/or chatting. Don't know how it would work to
just walk up to them and...? Mostly pretty young and hot though, like right off
Lian Hua Road quality or better...
And, damn, the ratio of guys/girls is about 1:1 at this hour (3:00am/40 people)
and the girls are generally pretty good looking...definately a couple of 8s
and I see a few 9s even...but like most internet bars there is absolutely no
interaction between the people in this net bar...hmmm...further investigation
is necessary but I'm getting too old for this hour of the night...
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Also, while walking around, plenty of travel agents advertising
one-way tickets from Zhuhai to Shanghai for 299 RMB...what
the hell's going on?? Didn't see ZH to other cities listed for this
price...
J[/QUOTE]This means basically That Shanghai People have chartered Planes going to Zhuhai,But rather then have the planes go back empty,They fill it up with some backload.In aviation terms a one way flight is a deadhead flight.Similiarly the PI has tour packages offering GZ roundtrip at 79$ including 2 nights hotel in GZ.Same principal When a chartered plane brings Chinese to the PI,They fill it up rather then go back empty,then when it goes back to pick them up ,they bring the filipinos back rather then go back empty.
Thanks for the info CL,
You're like a human encyclopedia of info! Also, your inbox is full again...you've got to keep all your ISG admirers at bay!
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]I'm just about to leave the internet bar right now after a quick stopover to
check/send email, and in the one hour I've been here, at least 20 SW-looking
gals have walked in...what's going on? They all just head to a computer and
start playing online games and/or chatting. Don't know how it would work to
just walk up to them and...? Mostly pretty young and hot though, like right off
Lian Hua Road quality or better..
J[/QUOTE]
which internet bar, the one at Lian Hua Lu ?
No, this internet bar near my place. No English name but in the same
building as 2020 Night Club.
And mentioning this, I was here today earlier, about 10:30pm and there
were at least 10 gals chatting away that could have been straight off
Lian Hua Road...when I say that, I mean that they not only have nice
body/face but also are wearing pretty revealing clothing.
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Thanks for the info CL,
You're like a human encyclopedia of info! Also, your inbox is full again...you've got to keep all your ISG admirers at bay!
J[/QUOTE]I know,But with 10-15 PM s a day asking for advice about Macau/Zhuhai,PI and Malaysia etc,It fills up rapidly.Hope my contact in the MGTO is able to help cheers
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]I know,But with 10-15 PM s a day asking for advice about Macau/Zhuhai,PI and Malaysia etc,It fills up rapidly.Hope my contact in the MGTO is able to help cheers[/QUOTE]
I guess it's just coming in too fast....cause your inbox is full again! Have you tried erasing all the stuff in the "Sent Messages"? That stuff counts towards the 200 message limit!
I was having a problem with a full inbox till I realized this and after erasing all the sent email, I had plenty of room left in my ISG inbox.
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]I guess it's just coming in too fast....cause your inbox is full again! Have you tried erasing all the stuff in the "Sent Messages"? That stuff counts towards the 200 message limit!
I was having a problem with a full inbox till I realized this and after erasing all the sent email, I had plenty of room left in my ISG inbox.
J[/QUOTE]Hi just cleared my out box Thanks See you in Zhuhai
For you guys who like to take photos with your lover-girl doing naughty things, this is a 19yo Hunan girl who is very willing to pose. I'm only posting a NICE photo of her, but I have some much hotter pics that I won't be posing.
Great BBBJ, CIM (spits in the sink), good CFS, she gets VERY wet and gets herself off pretty quickly (guys, this wasn't acting at least not with me), a good attitude overall. A sloppier kisser than I like. I might take her out for a 12-hour date, not sure yet.
Met her on LianHua Lu, said her name is Oh Yang. I repeat with her.
Johnny and I met up when I was in Zhuhai for a couple of nights, and this is a summary of some actions.
1) Sitting at the 15+ beer/coffee/juice bars on LianHua Lu, Johnny got a lot more approaches than usual by sitting w/ the foreigner man.
2) We did some walking of the side-streets of LianHua Lu. There are some BBSs back in there, but I'll let Johnny post the report about those. The girls seemed gwai-loh friendly, so maybe I'll have to post the gwai-loh version of this report. Rate is 150 RMB, dine in or take out to your hotel, 150 RMB. The girls are not at cute as the LianHua Lu girls, but something to think about.
3) Johnny and Dar hit up "Yesterday" Disco near to the Yindo hotel. If you've been to Guangzhou and know the "Babyface" disco/club, this is fairly similar, however there seem to be a number of girls hanging out in here who are semi-pros. But, as luck would have it, Dar and Johnny picked up 2 freebie girls here and took them to another disco on LianHua Lu. After the 2nd disco, we ate at a near by cafe then split up.... Dar going with his girl, Johnny going home (it was late and he must work, Dar has a slacker day coming), other girl going home.
4) Dar's freebie girl. a 24yo girl from Foshan city. Beautiful Body, really fun/friendly, agressive at times and shy at times. We get to my hotel and 1st thing she does is jump into my bed (with clothes on, wearing a skirt). Within 5 minutes Dar has checked her oil pressure and she is WET and ready. OK, shower time. This girl knows more than she's leading on about... Strike 1: you can tell when they stand on the side of the tub/shower and scrub you. Strike 2: When they slop-up the bathroom and water goes everywhere in the room. Strike 3: She has condoms in her purse. But yet, she still wants to play the 'girlfriend' game and say that she's a nice girl, blah blah. Well, bang away time was pretty good. Not great, but happy enough to do it 3 times with her that night. 3am - Noon with this girl in my hotel (plus 2+ hours of disco dining and drinks before) and I tell her it's time to say good-bye. She does not ask for money or pout or suggest about money, but Dar has a gentleman side and gives her 200 RMB for 'taxi, food, etc'. She REALLY wants ot meet again and spend an evening partying again. Maybe I'll call her? I still think she must work in a sauna service or something... but that I caught in her the right place at the right time for a near freebie.
5) 2050 Club. Johnny posted about this earlier. not much to say as I think we hit it either too early or on a bad night (the Typhoon warning night).
6) Lian Hua Lu Disco. It's low-key, kind of a 'dive' bar, good size but low ceilings and hot/humid (not much AirCond in the club). 6 Tsing Tao for 86 RMB is pretty cheap for a Disco (120 RMB at "Yesterday"), gets hopping at about 23:00. Many of the LianHua Lu girls seem to know about this place.. Located near to the "Angus" place.
7) Warning about "Yesterday" disco. When paying for our drinks, Dar gives the waitress 100 RMB + 50 RMB (for 120 RMB order). Waitress comes back and says the 100 RMB is fake. Whaaaa?? Dar *always* gets his money/100s from bank or ATM. Bulls*t! Johnny thinks the waitress might have swapped our 100/RMB with a fake one in the back room. Johnny says the trick about this is to: A) let the waitress see you writing the serial numbers down on paper before you give her the RMB (do this only for the 100s/500s, the big stuff), or B) Write a little something on each 100/500 in front of the waitress so she knows that you are identifying your money. She cannot pull the swap on you now. We also tell the waitress that we think she swapped the 100 because we ATM/Bank our exchanges, and that we spend good money (it helps that Dar is a gwai-loh and spent money at this disco previous night, sitting with his regular hunnie and 3 other girls), and that they now LOST a customer. No more spending my money at some Disco that swaps. Probably they don't care about losing a customer, but it does not hurt to let them know.
8) Year2000 Park (see attachement). Johnny and Dar went to the park near to Year 2000 Hotel. The night seemed dead due to the Typhoon warning, and we saw only 2 girls. Johnny will have to quote the prices, but I think the girl is asking 80 RMB for a boink. We walk along some more, and cross a street.. and as we get near a park it's CRAZY/WEIRD... Girls start coming out from out of nowhere and looking at us as we're walking through the park. It reminds me of when you go on a safari/park and the animals come up to your car and sometimes sneak up on you from behind. There were a couple of pretty decent looking chick-a-dees, but they refuse to come to our hotel and insist we must go to their nearby hotel. Again it's about 60-80 RMB per boink. Johnny will have to quote the pricing. But as you're talking with these girls, more girls are coming from out someplace... and you can see their daddies sitting around in this park. This has a really strange feeling, and the fact that only 1 of the girls was willing to go to our hotel (we refused because she wasn't a hottie) and they insist on using the nearby apartment... we worried about the pimp daddies trying to steal from us or ganging up on us if we went to the nearby apartment. I'll post a better map about this place if you want to check it out when you're in Zhuhai. I would also like to see a review about the girls and the apartment here. There were a couple of younger cuties in here, but most seemed in their young 30s to 40's. I might also check this out in the daytime to see if girls roam here.
Dar
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Thanks. Did you have to bargain with the taxi? 45 minutes is a long time/distance for only 60 RMB....or was that 60 USD?
J[/QUOTE]Sorry for the late reply.
The fare was 60 USD. perhaps a little less.
Harihara
I think this was a very good decision! Others should take note.
QUOTE from Johnny and Dar. There were a couple of pretty decent looking chick-a-dees, but they refuse to come to our hotel and insist we must go to their nearby hotel. Again it's about 60-80 RMB per boink. Johnny will have to quote the pricing. But as you're talking with these girls, more girls are coming from out someplace... and you can see their daddies sitting around in this park. This has a really strange feeling, and the fact that only 1 of the girls was willing to go to our hotel (we refused because she wasn't a hottie) and they insist on using the nearby apartment... we worried about the pimp daddies trying to steal from us or ganging up on us if we went to the nearby apartment.
Dar[/QUOTE]
Just to add my details to this experience...
1. I was pretty surprised that the girls were half-decent, or at least of couple of them were. Not like the creatures from the Black Lagoon like last time.
2. Their charges ranged from 60 RMB for older gals to 100 RMB for the younger gals. That seemed to be standard pricing during primetime (10pm-1am) although I'm sure you could try to bargain.
3. There were a lot of Chinese guys hanging around the park for no real reason, so I assume they were the gal's pimps. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they were waiting for you to get to the short-time room nearby before busting down the door and robbing your half-naked ass.
4. Try increasing the price to about 150 and include 20 RMB taxi fare and I'm sure the gals would go with you, but then you're getting near the 200 RMB price tag for Lian Hua Lu girls who are physically superior, so there's no reason to do this unless you are dying to try out these Year 2000 gals.
5. There are several hourly hotels nearby (closest is 2 minute taxi ride away directly across the street from "Xiang Ning Hua Yuan" bus stop, the taxi driver should understand). I think rate is 50 RMB/hour. This would be infinately safer than using these gal's rooms. Or, if you are actually staying at Year 2000 Hotel, I think the girls would go with you.
When I'm back in ZH, I'll take a pic for you all.
J
[QUOTE=Santa]I think this was a very good decision! Others should take note.
[/QUOTE] from Johnny and Dar. There were a couple of pretty decent looking chick-a-dees, but they refuse to come to our hotel and insist we must go to their nearby hotel. Again it's about 60-80 RMB per boink. Johnny will have to quote the pricing. But as you're talking with these girls, more girls are coming from out someplace... and you can see their daddies sitting around in this park. This has a really strange feeling, and the fact that only 1 of the girls was willing to go to our hotel (we refused because she wasn't a hottie) and they insist on using the nearby apartment... we worried about the pimp daddies trying to steal from us or ganging up on us if we went to the nearby apartment.
Dar[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Damn, that would buy a one-way ticket to Shanghai plus a train ticket back to Guangzhou....Thanks for the info....
[QUOTE=Hari Hara]Sorry for the late reply.
The fare was 60 USD. perhaps a little less.
Harihara[/QUOTE]
Cebu Local,
Your fans can't get enough! Your ISG inbox was full again, so I sent
a msg to your yahoo address...
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]--cut--
This has a really strange feeling, and the fact that only 1 of the girls was willing to go to our hotel (we refused because she wasn't a hottie) and they insist on using the nearby apartment... we worried about the pimp daddies trying to steal from us or ganging up on us if we went to the nearby apartment.
--cut--
Dar[/QUOTE]
You guys played it safe unlike me. I was force to give out my pin number to my ATM cards. Followed 2 girls back and was jumped by 4 guys at a 4th store apartment. One had a knife. It's a sad story. Location, Changping one long block behind "Lucky Hotel", and "Lion Hotel". They left first and left me alone tied up. I was told I could leave since they took some money from the ATMs. They left the keys to the place and I have them if anyone is interested. The money is small issue. The problem is stopping all those cards and the damn experiences.
Weelock
[QUOTE=Weelock]You guys played it safe unlike me. I was force to give out my pin number to my ATM cards. Followed 2 girls back and was jumped by 4 guys at a 4th store apartment. One had a knife. It's a sad story. Location, Changping one long block behind "Lucky Hotel", and "Lion Hotel". They left first and left me alone tied up. I was told I could leave since they took some money from the ATMs. They left the keys to the place and I have them if anyone is interested. The money is small issue. The problem is stopping all those cards and the damn experiences.
Weelock[/QUOTE]
Damn Weelock,
When did this happen?? And why are you posting in Zhuhai about it? Definately repost it in the South China/Dongguan section with as many
specific details as possible, especially how the people looked and their
setup.
Hope you're doing better.
J
Weelock
This is not your first report on getting mugged? This happened to you last year or the year before?
Why aren't you playing it safe?
Bill
[QUOTE=Weelock]You guys played it safe unlike me. I was force to give out my pin number to my ATM cards. Followed 2 girls back and was jumped by 4 guys at a 4th store apartment. One had a knife. It's a sad story. Location, Changping one long block behind "Lucky Hotel", and "Lion Hotel". They left first and left me alone tied up. I was told I could leave since they took some money from the ATMs. They left the keys to the place and I have them if anyone is interested. The money is small issue. The problem is stopping all those cards and the damn experiences.
Weelock[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bill Lee]Weelock
This is not your first report on getting mugged? This happened to you last year or the year before?
Why aren't you playing it safe?
Bill[/QUOTE]
C'mon Bill,
Can't blame Weelock...he just loves people too much. He can't help but chat up all the guys and girls he can around him on the street, making jokes, flirting, and then getting lots of attention. Weelock, you should cut down on the thick gold chains, Rolex watches, and Gucci loafers, though; they give the wrong people the wrong idea...
J
I just read about your experiance getting mugged. I have never had that experiance, but I had the experiance of getting cheated in a similar way and also beat up over a stupid mistake of being too friendly. I got beat with plastic chairs last year by a group of hostile Chinese street people in Foshan. I took a wrong turn on a back road near a bar and paid the price They could have near killed me, but I got away on foot.
The best thing you can do is stick with girls in a brothel and invite them to the hotel of your choice for outcall. If you meet a girl on the street and she is making offers to you, move on, most of the time it is money trap, and your safety can be at risk. Same with aggressive pimps. I don't deal with them, they are simply bad news.
Find some chinese friends, go to some descent brothels, exchange numbers with girls, and you won't have the problem of ever getting mugged.
Best thing you can do is to keep to yourself. It is ok to smile at people, especially if you are in area where normal people live and work at night. But by being flashy and talkative, you draw attention to yourself with the wrong crowd.
Also, I never deal with a crowd of people, when it comes to hookers. Things can seriously get out of control. Also learn to find safe locations to fuck, local hotels or brothels.
Just to bring up the point about Inbox been full.
I think a lot of us know get lots of PMs every suffers from the problem of keeping track of who sent what and who had we answer what problems. So, that leads to keeping lots of past PMs from fellow members and also the replies.
I found my inbox get filled up very quickly with in a week after I cleared all PMs by answering them. Also when some member refers to my previous reply to their PMs, I am some what lost as I reply average 20 PMs a day.
I had a found out that we can actually keep track of the PMs and answers but not compromising the Inbox space. You download and clear them!
To do that, you find the function on the bottom right hand corner in your Inbox page. Clicks on those PMs you wish to download and lick one of the three format in which you wish store. I've found the XML version most useful.
AG
[QUOTE=Weelock]You guys played it safe unlike me. I was force to give out my pin number to my ATM cards. Followed 2 girls back and was jumped by 4 guys at a 4th store apartment. One had a knife. It's a sad story. Location, Changping one long block behind "Lucky Hotel", and "Lion Hotel". They left first and left me alone tied up. I was told I could leave since they took some money from the ATMs. They left the keys to the place and I have them if anyone is interested. The money is small issue. The problem is stopping all those cards and the damn experiences.
Weelock[/QUOTE]
Weelock,
I Sympathize your situation of getting robbed! but when are you going to do something about it? So when are you going to learn Shaolin Kungfu from me? hehehe...
To all:
I remembered someone posted that when going out, remember to only bring the right amount of cash with you and just one ATM card. Hide the ATM in a place where nobody else will suspect it! (use it as your Balls-guard!)
In situation where they found your card and they force you for the pin number, give them a fake one, they try and got rejected, just say that you forgotten and because you just changed the pin. Give them another and another. After another 2 tries... the card get detained in the ATM machine.
(Of course you are in danger of getting yourself stabbed and left to die! but the odd are 5%) 95% of the robbers that works in a group do not want to take any person's life because it is a death penalty (Firing Squat) for them also. Those 5% are those that operates on ther own. These are likely to be drug addicts. Drug addicts do not care if they face the gun!
End lessons:
1) Never agree to go to the girl's apartment or Hotel recommended by the girl. This is not only true for preventing yourself from been robbed, it is also preventing you from possible blackmails (with you own XXX rated video been produced) or scams.
2) Be aware of what happening around you, the people, the place. You would walked into a dark unknown alley alone would you?
3) Always knows where is the fastest route of escape.
4) Only carry one ATM card with you and make sure it is not an Citibank ATM card. The maximum you can withdraw in one day is 5000RMB some banks is lower. Citibank allows withdrawal of maximum 8000RMB.
Be Alert!
AG
Being forced by criminals to give your PIN for your ATM Card is a common crime. If you pretend not to know the number, that could cause an angry and violent attack.
I think the solution is to carry ONLY enough cash for that evening, and a photo copy of your passport and visa in case of trouble with the police.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Cebu Local,
Your fans can't get enough! Your ISG inbox was full again, so I sent
a msg to your yahoo address...
J[/QUOTE]
Hi just like AG in Shanghai who gets 20 PM s a day average.I get 10-15 inquiries a day to answer mostly about advice about China,PI,Macau and Malaysia ,Its cleared out though Cheers
Bro Weelock! Well I'm glad that you came out the experiance safe! Take care bro!
KL Guy
Glad that Weelock got out ok,But you only should carry enough cash for the night and either 1 bank ATM or credit card with a low limit.But again you re talking to a guy who almost got killed,many years ago when a girl robbed and drugged me in BKK.Another trick of the girls is the use of Chlorophorm which they put on the pillows,and as you lay down ,you will be slowly overwhelmed by the fumes and go to sleep,then she robs you ,this is a common Zhuhai trick or offer you a sealed bottle of juice which as been opened,Drugged and resealed.They prefer drugging in Zhuhai compared to armed robbery
[QUOTE=Santa]I think the solution is to carry ONLY enough cash for that evening, and a photo copy of your passport and visa in case of trouble with the police.[/QUOTE]I would in general agree with this, but would also carry ONE atm card that has a small balance available on it. By operating two atm cards, one for ordinary everyday use, and one for night time travels, if the worst does happen, give them the pin, they are only getting away with a small value to us, but possibly keeps them happy, but also is likely to keep you safe.
These people generally expect foreignors to carry atm cards, and by not having one could lead to further complications. There was a case in Taipei several years ago where the guy was forced back to his hotel and then lost everything because he had almost nothing on him. How did they do this, very simply, most foreignors, particularly visitors who do not speak the language carry the hotel name and address for use later when returning by taxi.
In my view, give them access to sufficient funds to make them disappear, normally the safer way. Trying to fight your way out as AG might be suggesting, by his offer to train Shaolin Kungfu is not sensible, backup from the heavies is only a shout away.
I remember you gave me some nice advice and tried to help me via PM before. I'm in GZ but if you are going to DG, SZ, or Zhuhai, let me know. I'll hang out with you. Better to be two, in a dangerous situation. I will go to zhuhai or SZ this weekend. I have not had any trouble here and am certainly not looking for any, but I don't think these people will mess with me.
Anyway, i need some time out of GZ.
Savannah
[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]In my view, give them access to sufficient funds to make them disappear, normally the safer way. Trying to fight your way out as AG might be suggesting, by his offer to train Shaolin Kungfu is not sensible, backup from the heavies is only a shout away.[/QUOTE]
I was joking about Shaolin Kung Fu! You mean you guys took me seriously on this one??? Sorry for the mis-understanding, may be my tone on this was not right.... I took 10 years to be effective on this and how long I expect him to be effective starting now?
Just correct a little:
People expect foreigner to carry VISA or MASTER Cards, not ATM cards. They also knows that VISA or MASTER cards have higher credit limits than ATM cards!
AG
[QUOTE=Savannah]I remember you gave me some nice advice and tried to help me via PM before. I'm in GZ but if you are going to DG, SZ, or Zhuhai, let me know. I'll hang out with you. Better to be two, in a dangerous situation. I will go to zhuhai or SZ this weekend. I have not had any trouble here and am certainly not looking for any, but I don't think these people will mess with me.
Anyway, i need some time out of GZ.
Savannah[/QUOTE]
Good advice on not wandering out mongering alone! Fully agree!
That is precisely one of the mainly reason why "The Gang" in Shanghai is formed!
AG
OK. Yes, I agree. It's a good idea to have a second ATM card for when you go mongering, with only a small amount in that account.
If you are being threatened by violent thugs they expect to win and to be financially rewarded. If they get nothing, or very little, they may lose face and become very angry and violent.
Maybe having a small amount of extra hidden cash that you give them is a good idea. Kind of a consolation prize.
Santa's Little Secret. I usually have $100 or $200 in cash hidden in the seam of my blue jeans. There is a large fold or seam at the top of your pants around the waist. I cut a small slit on the inside of that seam, roll up the extra money into the shape of a cigarette and slip it in.
Any time you encounter criminals remember to study their faces very carefully, especially their teeth. Look at clothing, tattoos, jewelry and scars. If you have to answer questions for the police, this info will help.
Play carefully and have fun my friends.
If your card is issued by a U.S. bank, you might be covered by laws limiting liability to $50 for fraudulent use. It seems to me that armed robbery of your card/PIN would be considered fraudulent.
Call your bank and ask.
Boss
...is the man!
Not only is he a funny, entertaining guy in person with a handsomely boyish
face to attract the girls, he is generous to a fault! I asked him for a some
information and recommendations in Zhuhai and Macau and not only did he
provide in-depth, well-thought comments, he went so far as to arrange it
so I could enjoy them as an honored guest. What more can you say? This
man has all the best connections and isn't afraid to call on them for a friend.
And I thought there was a pretty good success rate with Dar in ZH discos a
few weeks ago, but not only was it more successful with CL, it was a startling
difference. From our clothing, the girls could sense that we weren't locals and
that made it easy for introductions. Less threatening than approaching an
obvious foreigner in my opinon...so even with our random come-ons, it was
easier to garner real attention and not just curious glances.
Later, when I saw him on the dancefloor with TWO girls, my feelings
started to turn into jealousy, but only for a bit...c'mon, he's THE man...
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]...is the man!
Not only is he a funny, entertaining guy in person with a handsomely boyish
face to attract the girls, he is generous to a fault! I asked him for a some
information and recommendations in Zhuhai and Macau and not only did he
provide in-depth, well-thought comments, he went so far as to arrange it
so I could enjoy them as an honored guest. What more can you say? This
man has all the best connections and isn't afraid to call on them for a friend.
And I thought there was a pretty good success rate with Dar in ZH discos a
few weeks ago, but not only was it more successful with CL, it was a startling
difference. From our clothing, the girls could sense that we weren't locals and
that made it easy for introductions. Less threatening than approaching an
obvious foreigner in my opinon...so even with our random come-ons, it was
easier to garner real attention and not just curious glances.
Later, when I saw him on the dancefloor with TWO girls, my feelings
started to turn into jealousy, but only for a bit...c'mon, he's THE man...
J[/QUOTE]
Words ate by AG .......
AG
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Glad that Weelock got out ok,But you only should carry enough cash for the night and either 1 bank ATM or credit card with a low limit.But again you re talking to a guy who almost got killed,many years ago when a girl robbed and drugged me in BKK.Another trick of the girls is the use of Chlorophorm which they put on the pillows,and as you lay down ,you will be slowly overwhelmed by the fumes and go to sleep,then she robs you ,this is a common Zhuhai trick or offer you a sealed bottle of juice which as been opened,Drugged and resealed.They prefer drugging in Zhuhai compared to armed robbery[/QUOTE]
geez. I must admit i also went one time with a SW to her apartment (in Beijng) which was in a dark area. And i also drank some juice she offered :-o But nothing happend, it was safe. But reading this i definitly will not go to any girls apartment anymore.
[QUOTE=Asian Gambler]Uhh.... Johnny??? You and Cebu have something going on in between??? Man/Man?
Your report above suggested something like that... :D
AG[/QUOTE]No AG,Nothing like that,I just used some Guangxi to help him with something,Nothing was moving on something Johnny was working on,So I placed a call to somebody high up in the Goverment and The people Johnny were talking to,suddenly started moving to help Johnny as if they had ants in their pants.Johnny Your welcome,I was glad that was able to help,But a simple Thank you would have been enough.No I am strictly into women
I guess my American use of the phrase "you/he is the man" must have
confused AG. It's a semi-joking way that means "big boss" or "important
person". I'll use Chinese next time, I guess...so CL is really a 大老 but
treats me like a 大哥...thanks again CL. I'm sure that's why God blessed
you with your Shanghai cutie...
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]I guess my American use of the phrase "you/he is the man" must have
confused AG. It's a semi-joking way that means "big boss" or "important
person". I'll use Chinese next time, I guess...so CL is really a 大老 but
treats me like a 大哥...thanks again CL. I'm sure that's why God blessed
you with your Shanghai cutie...
J[/QUOTE]
Sorry.... as usual; I was joking.... :D, no offence to anyone....
I'll eat my words!
AG
[QUOTE=Boss]If your card is issued by a U.S. bank, you might be covered by laws limiting liability to $50 for fraudulent use. It seems to me that armed robbery of your card/PIN would be considered fraudulent.
Call your bank and ask.
Boss[/QUOTE]Interesting point, but is it fraud. In this scenario you would have given the pin openly to the attackers, i accept whilst under duress, but strictly not fraud.
Would be interesting to see what stance the credit card company or bank would take, not that i am wishing it on anyone.
TT
[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]Interesting point, but is it fraud. In this scenario you would have given the pin openly to the attackers, i accept whilst under duress, but strictly not fraud.
Would be interesting to see what stance the credit card company or bank would take, not that i am wishing it on anyone.
TT[/QUOTE]
Please read the definition of fraud:
[url]http://www.aicpa.org/PUBS/JOFA/oct2004/lawrence.htm[/url]
I’ve asked my legal advisor on whether robbery or theft is considered as fraud; but unfortunately he had advised that robbery or thefts are not considered under the definition of fraud. As long as the pin number of the card is given by the owner (whether willingly or against his will) it is considered the liability of the card owner. The Bank cannot be liable to the safety of the account holder. Under the legal terms; Robbery or theft is a personal liability. The Bank does not cover such liability. In any case, Robbery or theft can be covered by certain insurance policy but normally requires prove of such crime such as a report from the local police.
AG
I haven't had much time to post recently but that's only cause too
much going on now instead of nothing, like before...
I guess like a farmer planting seeds, it's summer and my crops are
springing up everywhere...the 10 or so numbers I got when hanging
out with Dar has mushroomed into about 30. I've realized that most
of the Lian Hua Road girls don't mind recommending another of their
"sisters", especially if you are a nice guy to them. I've finally agreed
to have two gals tomorrow night, after one of the gals kept pushing
me for it. Had the one girl first then made her send her "sis" for a
1-on-1 session yesterday and, to my great surprise, she was fucking
great...DFK, BBBJ, oral balls juggling, rimming, and into the fucking.
I can't wait for the 3-some...
Mix in a foot massage "freebie" and several more potential regular gals,
and one thing is for certain...I'm tired as shit and Mother Hubbard's
cubboard is looking exactly like my wallet...ha...
So, for those out there who need some numbers of gals, especially if
you're staying in the Gongbei area, here are a few:
Taller gals (about 5'4 or taller):
135X9573599
1353226X251
Shorter gals (shorter than 5'4):
13112X06262
1354X004742
1382414497X
1308580X280
13112337X91
My small measure of privacy was to substitute one digit for an "X".
The missing digit is the same for each phone number and here is the
clue: how many strikes before you're out when you are batting in
baseball? Ha ha...if you don't know, sorry...
Anyway, just call up these gals and tell them to go to your hotel and
they should have no objections, especially if you're staying in the
Gongbei section of ZH. They might be more wary if you're staying farther
away, though. Also, just tell them you got their number on Lian Hua
Road and they shouldn't question you anymore. Remember that standard
pricing is 200 RMB ST and 600 RMB overnight but overnight can definately
be negotiated, the later the time, the lower the price. For example, I was
able to get 300 RMB overnight at about 12:30 am before. So, enjoy and I
don't want you all to suffer what I did when I first arrived...
Also, I want to explore my thought that Zhongshang is to Zhuhai what
CP is to Shenzhen, so I'll be going on regular scoutnig trips to ZS soon.
Anyone with more info on Zhongshan, let me know. I've checked the forum
and info doesn't seem too informative on the area. Thanks.
J
[QUOTE=Asian Gambler]Please read the definition of fraud:
[url]http://www.aicpa.org/PUBS/JOFA/oct2004/lawrence.htm[/url]
I’ve asked my legal advisor on whether robbery or theft is considered as fraud; but unfortunately he had advised that robbery or thefts are not considered under the definition of fraud. As long as the pin number of the card is given by the owner (whether willingly or against his will) it is considered the liability of the card owner. The Bank cannot be liable to the safety of the account holder. Under the legal terms; Robbery or theft is a personal liability. The Bank does not cover such liability. In any case, Robbery or theft can be covered by certain insurance policy but normally requires prove of such crime such as a report from the local police.
AG[/QUOTE]AG,
I agree, hence the reason why I raised the point.
You're more popular than the #1 TV show...clear out your PM again!
I sent it to your yahoo address this time. Do you ever check that?
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]You're more popular than the #1 TV show...clear out your PM again!
I sent it to your yahoo address this time. Do you ever check that?
J[/QUOTE]
Yes I got the message on the Yahoo,I already sent the Resident Manager of that place an E mail,You needed it for NEXT WEEKEND right??Not this Weekend,Because Thats too soon.Let me know If there is anything else you need.Cheers and Sorry,Lots of travel questions pouring in,See you in Macau/Zhuhai
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]I haven't had much time to post recently but that's only cause too
much going on now instead of nothing, like before...
I guess like a farmer planting seeds, it's summer and my crops are
springing up everywhere...the 10 or so numbers I got when hanging
out with Dar has mushroomed into about 30. I've realized that most
of the Lian Hua Road girls don't mind recommending another of their
"sisters", especially if you are a nice guy to them. I've finally agreed
to have two gals tomorrow night, after one of the gals kept pushing
me for it. Had the one girl first then made her send her "sis" for a
1-on-1 session yesterday and, to my great surprise, she was fucking
great...DFK, BBBJ, oral balls juggling, rimming, and into the fucking.
I can't wait for the 3-some...
Mix in a foot massage "freebie" and several more potential regular gals,
and one thing is for certain...I'm tired as shit and Mother Hubbard's
cubboard is looking exactly like my wallet...ha...
So, for those out there who need some numbers of gals, especially if
you're staying in the Gongbei area, here are a few:
Taller gals (about 5'4 or taller):
135X9573599
1353226X251
Shorter gals (shorter than 5'4):
13112X06262
1354X004742
1382414497X
1308580X280
13112337X91
My small measure of privacy was to substitute one digit for an "X".
The missing digit is the same for each phone number and here is the
clue: how many strikes before you're out when you are batting in
baseball? Ha ha...if you don't know, sorry...
Anyway, just call up these gals and tell them to go to your hotel and
they should have no objections, especially if you're staying in the
Gongbei section of ZH. They might be more wary if you're staying farther
away, though. Also, just tell them you got their number on Lian Hua
Road and they shouldn't question you anymore. Remember that standard
pricing is 200 RMB ST and 600 RMB overnight but overnight can definately
be negotiated, the later the time, the lower the price. For example, I was
able to get 300 RMB overnight at about 12:30 am before. So, enjoy and I
don't want you all to suffer what I did when I first arrived...
Also, I want to explore my thought that Zhongshang is to Zhuhai what
CP is to Shenzhen, so I'll be going on regular scoutnig trips to ZS soon.
Anyone with more info on Zhongshan, let me know. I've checked the forum
and info doesn't seem too informative on the area. Thanks.
J[/QUOTE]Johnny,You could note which girls speak English,because not everybody is Mandarin/Cantonese Speaking.Cheers
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Johnny,You could note which girls speak English,because not everybody is Mandarin/Cantonese Speaking.Cheers[/QUOTE]
CL,
Ha ha, as you could probably guess....that would be NONE of them...(well, besides "we fuck!" or "I love you!")
J
PS. Yes, next weekend, and thanks for contacting the guy and I'll just email you via Yahoo from now on. It's a safer bet that you'll receive my msgs!
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]CL,
Ha ha, as you could probably guess....that would be NONE of them...(well, besides "we fuck!" or "I love you!")
J
PS. Yes, next weekend, and thanks for contacting the guy and I'll just email you via Yahoo from now on. It's a safer bet that you'll receive my msgs![/QUOTE]How about cantonese?
Well CL there is only one way around. Even being as busy as you are, you will need to sit down and do some studies. Your wife to be would be surprized too.
(Since this message is not very conrtibuting to the audience, it will self distruct in 48 hours).
Had the threesome with the "sisters" I mentioned earlier
and while it wasn't a porno experience, it was very pleasant
and nice. The key to the whole thing was that both girls
knew each other very well and are from the same village in
Hubei, hence them calling each other sisters. The younger one, I'll
refer to her as "Shorty" because she is very short and cute,
reminds me of a high school freshman, all young and eager and
semi-innocent. The other girl I'll refer to as "Senior" because
she reminded me of a high school senior who knows the ropes and
was leading Shorty around...also she was different than the one
you had, Dar.
Called them up and they were waiting downstairs of my apt
hiding behind some bushes, playfully giggling and laughing.
(side note- I just love being able to call up these gals are happy
to drop by my apt with no mention of taxi fare...wonder if word
about my apartment's location has spread among the gals?...) They
were dressed a little bit more cute and less slutty than
usual, something like out of a J.Crew summer catalogue instead
of leftovers from a "Teen ****" photo shoot. This was a nice touch.
Went upstairs and they watched TV, listened to music, ate
fruit, and undressed, not in that particular order. It was
all very relaxed. I took a shower with each one of them
alternately and then I started on Shorty while Senior undressed
and watched. Lot of alternating between kissing, caressing, squeezing
between both gals. I was basically on top of both at the same time,
using them as body pillows...they both seemed happy and enjoying
the time instead of a "sexy" atmosphere. When I changed to a
position on my back and had Shorty sit on my face, Senior immediately
went to give me a fantastic BBBJ, ball licking, and anal rimming.
Did the for a long time and almost CIM with Senior, but held off.
Changed to DATY with Senior and Shorty alternated between hugging,
kissing, and light BBBJ. Not even close to Senior's oral skills, but
I didn't exepect it. Started CFS on Shorty while Senior alternated
between kissing me and anal rimming me. After about 20 minutes, I
could tell Shorty wanted a break and I changed condoms and had CFS
with Senior. She was much more agressive with the FS, whether she
liked it rougher/faster, or she just wanted me to finish faster, who
knows. Much more service oriented, but I don't mind. Shorty was mostly
just observing Senior and I fucking with a dreamy look on her face
although she held and kissed me later on. I finished doggie in Senior
and Shorty wanted to shower with me first.
We finished up, ate some more fruit, and they were on their way with
400 RMB from me. I could have pushed for a second shot but I had other
things to do that night and didn't have time. Overall, it was a very
pleasant and relaxing experience, with two young sexy gals in your bed
and a good attitude. I would recommend it and I'll probably do it again
sometime in the future.
They both didn't really want to take pics, and this quick shot of Shorty
was all I could get. As you can see, she's young, cute, and innocent looking.
But combine that with a tight, sexy body and I'm sure she's a popular gal
on Lian Hua Road. Nice, sweet, almost hair-less pussy, too...
J
Just noticed that my report's use of the word "s.lut" was censored...
but fuck, shit, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], cock, cum, tits, etc. are no problem...ha ha...
J
[QUOTE=Reader123]How about cantonese?[/QUOTE]
Hey Reader,
Sorry, didn't see your question till now. Like most non-Cantonese in South China, not just SWs, they understand some Cantonese...at least basic things like numbers and simple conversational things. I usually use Mandarin for clarity's sake and I think the gals feel more comfortable listening to Mandarin, even if it sucks, like mine.
Semi-frustrating experience tonight....I wanted an "after-work treat" kind of like milk and cookies when I was young, but more like breasts and pussy now. So I call up a gal's number saved in my mobile phone I saved as "Ching". She came by my place and then I realize it's the WRONG GAL!! Shit, I meant to call "Qing"...well, that goes to show how important proper pinyin is...so...what to do, what to do? I guess I gotta do both of them...
So, had a quick SOP with Ching. Shower, BBBJ, CFS and she was off. She has a nice, tall thin body, but her tits are just handfuls, which I like, but her face has this quality that doesn't make me want a GFE from her. I just want to "wham, bam, get out m'am" and I did. Gave her 200 RMB even though I should have given 150 RMB because she's a BBS gal, but she did take the taxi to my place, so from my call to her in Gongbei to her in my apt, it was only about 10 minutes. Overall, a consistent performer with better-than-average BBBJ. I think I listed her number already, but here it is again: 135*9573599. And the answer to the missing number is..."How many nipples does actor / former-rapper Mark Walhberg have?" (Yes, it's true, ha ha...)
The experience with Qing was much better, though I'm sure it was my mental attitude. Qing actually has a very similar tall, thin body but her breast are about double the size of Ching's, though that only means that they are a good handful, about half a large orange. BBJ couldn't compare to Ching's but Qing was much softer and her face got me more into the CFS. 200 RMB and she was smiling out the door...
J
I went to KTVs couple times and didn't get BJs. One of them said she doesn't do it and another one didn't do it, but I guess I could have insisted. I just thought it WAS SOP, but it wasn't in my experience. The 2nd one was new to the area as she just got her cell phone(I can tell the phone was new). I didn't get a chance to try the Lian Hua Lu or BBS girls. Is this common with KTV girls? Perhaps, just inexperience? I had some expectations that they were trained to a certain extent like Macau.
There are several older reports on this Zhuhai thread regarding Shangchun and Xi chuan dao, and also Ling Ding islands. Has anyone tested these waters? The earlier comment are that these may be the true "land of milk and honey", literally thousands of women at even cheaper prices for better quality. If anyone can comment, I think it will be helpful for this whole community. Thanks.
I apologize for going off topic, but while I will certainly monger while in Zhuhai (for the first time coming up in August), I was wondering if there was a regular or local who could recommend a tailor. I'd like to make suits/shirts with a 2 days or less turnaround. A specific recommendation or a general region where a cab could take me would be helpful. (I don't speak Chinese, but usually can get around with a dictionary) Again, I apologize for being off the main subject, but perhaps others might find this information helpful also?!? Afterall, we can't have sex 24 hours a day, can we? Some can, but not me. Ha ha.
Happy mongering!
-M
Any recommendation on hotels with internet access (complimentary or paid/wired or wireless)?
Where are the ATMs typically located? I don't remember seeing them.
[QUOTE=Reader123]Any recommendation on hotels with internet access (complimentary or paid/wired or wireless)?[/QUOTE]The Zhuhai Guangdong Regency is in the middle of everything and has internet access for no charge.
Harihara
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Just noticed that my report's use of the word "s.lut" was censored...
but fuck, shit, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], cock, cum, tits, etc. are no problem...ha ha...
J[/QUOTE]
It's explained somewhere. S*** is a degrading term. The others are not. I wouldn't call any girl a s***, unless she cheats me. They all are just doing their job and we should be thankfull that they are around.
Spent this last weekend in Zhuhai and went straight to LianHua Lu. Went around grabbing a few numbers and went back to my hotel. I decided on having fun with 2 girls LT for the night. The first girl arrives, Ya-Nan and we take a shower together and afterwards just kept the bed warm. Then the next girl arrives and is shocked to find that I had another girl in bed. The second girl, Yo-yo asks for the money. I guess she thinks i did not have the money since i look really young (18yrs) but im much older than that. So i hand her the money. Apparently they know each other or at least have seen each other since they work the same area. Anyways, we had a threesome which was awesome with the usual routine. Then we take a quick break. One of the girls asked if she could have some food and i agreed and let them have some peanuts and noodles provided by the hotel. Later, the second girl, YoYo says that her auntie is downstairs and wants to get the money. Now is this a common routine where the auntie comes up and take the money? To make a long story short, both girls ran off and didn't come back even though they were paid for LT rates. Does this happen often or did I just have some bad luck where boh girls would run off. Maybe I can insist on making the payment in the morning when they are leaving.Can anyone provide some insights. Thanks
[QUOTE]
I apologize for going off topic, but while I will certainly monger while in Zhuhai (for the first time coming up in August), I was wondering if there was a regular or local who could recommend a tailor. I'd like to make suits/shirts with a 2 days or less turnaround. A specific recommendation or a general region where a cab could take me would be helpful. (I don't speak Chinese, but usually can get around with a dictionary) Again, I apologize for being off the main subject, but perhaps others might find this information helpful also?!? Afterall, we can't have sex 24 hours a day, can we? Some can, but not me. Ha ha.
Happy mongering!
-M[/QUOTE]
Johnny I would recomend the tailoring shops in the Gongbei Underground shopping center to this guy.What do you think?? Cheers CL
[QUOTE=Reader123]Where are the ATMs typically located? I don't remember seeing them.[/QUOTE]There is one just past customs and immigration coming from Macau and There is another one beside the Yindo Hotel
ATMs. I see these in most banks branches in Zhuhai (and other China cities). Some have a connection to the international banking network, and some allow only customers of that bank to use that ATM. I always try 4-5 ATMs before I can find a ATM that allows me to access funds in my (USA-based) non-China bank account.
In Zhuhai, on LianHua Lu, about 75-100 meters south of the GuangDong Regency Hotel (YueHai hotel) going from the Regency walking towards Macao/Umbrellas; it's on the other side of the LianHua Lu (not same side as Regency/Yuehai). I forget the name of the bank.. might be "Agriculture Bank of China", those ATMs work for me.
Broadband Internet.
- Guangdong Regency (Yuehai) Hotel has free broadband (ethernet) to the Internet. I think no Wi-Fi.
- Yindo Hotel has free broadband (ethernet) to the Internet.
- Chang'An hotel on LianHua Lu (50 meters from umbrellas!) does NOT have internet access.
AsianXGuy. I think you made mistake of paying the girls BEFORE the time is done. If they agree to stay until 8:00 AM, then pay them at 8:00 AM. If you pay them before 8:00 AM, they might leave early. You can always show them you have the RMB, then put the RMB into the hotel/room safe, then pay them the RMB in the morning.
Also, sometimes, some hotel Front Desk will call your room if the girl(s) are leaving the hotel (Guangdong Regency calls my room very often, maybe they think I'm a male "S L U T" !?)... the hotel front desk is asking you if it's OK for the girls to leave. Mostly, it is to give you a chance to see that the girls did not steal things from your room/luggage (when you are in the shower/sleeping, etc).
I never had a problem with the girl leaving 'early', so I do not know what happens if you tell the Hotel Front Desk/Bellboy, "She cannot leave! Send her to my room, because she is leaving too early!!". It might be they send her back to your room. But, now you have a girl in your room who is not happy, so how happy can you be with her?
Dar
Asianxguy,
How much did you pay them and what time did you start? Was there an agreed departure time?
BTW, anyone been to the hotsprings? I saw them in the travel agency at the gongbei underground mall. Any "services" offered, like accompany you in the springs, etc?
[QUOTE=Dar425]ATMs. I see these in most banks branches in Zhuhai (and other China cities). Some have a connection to the international banking network, and some allow only customers of that bank to use that ATM. I always try 4-5 ATMs before I can find a ATM that allows me to access funds in my (USA-based) non-China bank account.
In Zhuhai, on LianHua Lu, about 75-100 meters south of the GuangDong Regency Hotel (YueHai hotel) going from the Regency walking towards Macao/Umbrellas; it's on the other side of the LianHua Lu (not same side as Regency/Yuehai). I forget the name of the bank.. might be "Agriculture Bank of China", those ATMs work for me.
to dar 425
I think you need to go to the main office of china bank , bank service is very
poor in china it take me 2 hr to find a bank in zhu hai to cash my american
express traveler check , So try to do your banking in guangzhou ,shenzhen
or hong kong instead.
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Asianxguy]... I decided on having fun with 2 girls LT for the night. The first girl arrives, Ya-Nan and we take a shower together and afterwards just kept the bed warm. Then the next girl arrives and is shocked to find that I had another girl in bed. The second girl, Yo-yo asks for the money.... So i hand her the money. Apparently they know each other or at least have seen each other since they work the same area. Anyways, we had a threesome which was awesome with the usual routine. ... Later, the second girl, YoYo says that her auntie is downstairs and wants to get the money. Now is this a common routine where the auntie comes up and take the money? To make a long story short, both girls ran off and didn't come back even though they were paid for LT rates. Does this happen often or did I just have some bad luck where boh girls would run off. ...[/QUOTE]
2 cardinal rules were broken:
1. four a 3-some, let one girl chose the other girl. Most people don't like sex having a stranger watching.
2. Pay after the before agreed price.
[QUOTE=Asianxguy]Spent this last weekend in Zhuhai and went straight to LianHua Lu. Went around grabbing a few numbers and went back to my hotel. I decided on having fun with 2 girls LT for the night. The first girl arrives, Ya-Nan and we take a shower together and afterwards just kept the bed warm. Then the next girl arrives and is shocked to find that I had another girl in bed. The second girl, Yo-yo asks for the money. I guess she thinks i did not have the money since i look really young (18yrs) but im much older than that. So i hand her the money. Apparently they know each other or at least have seen each other since they work the same area. Anyways, we had a threesome which was awesome with the usual routine. Then we take a quick break. One of the girls asked if she could have some food and i agreed and let them have some peanuts and noodles provided by the hotel. Later, the second girl, YoYo says that her auntie is downstairs and wants to get the money. Now is this a common routine where the auntie comes up and take the money? To make a long story short, both girls ran off and didn't come back even though they were paid for LT rates. Does this happen often or did I just have some bad luck where boh girls would run off. Maybe I can insist on making the payment in the morning when they are leaving.Can anyone provide some insights. Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hey Asianxguy, don't blame your looks on wanting money upfront, if they come to your room, that means that they assume you have money already. It's like when girls pester you for "taxi money" on top of what you paid them for service. You can give it to them, but know that it's just another way to "juice" another couple of RMB from your wallet....
What prices did you pay? And how did you allow BOTH girls to run off??
J
Been kind of busy lately so haven't gone out exploring much. Instead, my lazy ass has been using the little Cutie Pie (CP) girl I had for the threesome as my runner. She's been more than happy to send girls over to my apt for my sampling. I'm sure it makes her feel somewhat powerful that she can give her "sisters" the opportunity to make some cash from a decent-looking guy that treats a gal well.
Anyway, this is the 5th gal I've had CP send over, and it's been pretty much a crapshoot. Generally though, the gals have been in good shape and attractive enough that I would have chosen them if I had seen them on the street. The problem I have is I never remember their names, because they all introduce themselves as "I'm CP's friend" and then we go from there.
This gal, like all the others and CP herself, were from Hubei, hence why CP calls them all "sisters." She was the oldest I've had from CP so far, late 20's. After taking shower, I'm pretty sure she's had a kid, too, from the stretch marks. Doesn't sound too good so far, eh?
But I guess she knows it too, and trys to make up for it with pretty good service. She is into DFK, slow body kissing (not catbath), and an interesting BBBJ technique where she concentrates on licking your balls while fingering around your asshole with a lubed finger. No sucking on the actual shaft and I was about to blow just like this anyway. After a while, she adds in a slow, sensuous handjob with a wet lubed hand while rubbing your cock's head. I really though she was using her mouth, it felt so good....
Finally, had her stop and put the condom on and had her in several positions. Surprisingly tight pussy and she was into the whole thing. Even took a shower and came back to bed to rest (and sell LT, ha...) but I had other things to do and sent her on her way with 200 RMB.
Again, she's a late 20's gal who's probably had a child, so don't expect a flawless teen body. Service is great though and I usually choose service over looks. Her number: 131922*801 and you'll need to speak Mandarin to arrange anything. The missing digit is how many testicles does George Bush have? I say zero, but the real answer is...
Enjoy and stay safe.
J
Did you really expect them to come back after you paid them all the money? If you have to pay the aunty, it would have to be only the commission and not what the girl gets. If an aunty is involved, making sure you agree with her what the price is and when you pay it, in front of the gal and the aunty usually gets rid of a lot of misunderstandings. If they don't agree, walk off and find another gal.
Just like trading in China, try to negotiate for COD, if not only a small initial deposit.
[QUOTE=Asianxguy]Spent this last weekend in Zhuhai and went straight to LianHua Lu. Went around grabbing a few numbers and went back to my hotel. I decided on having fun with 2 girls LT for the night. The first girl arrives, Ya-Nan and we take a shower together and afterwards just kept the bed warm. Then the next girl arrives and is shocked to find that I had another girl in bed. The second girl, Yo-yo asks for the money. I guess she thinks i did not have the money since i look really young (18yrs) but im much older than that. So i hand her the money. Apparently they know each other or at least have seen each other since they work the same area. Anyways, we had a threesome which was awesome with the usual routine. Then we take a quick break. One of the girls asked if she could have some food and i agreed and let them have some peanuts and noodles provided by the hotel. Later, the second girl, YoYo says that her auntie is downstairs and wants to get the money. Now is this a common routine where the auntie comes up and take the money? To make a long story short, both girls ran off and didn't come back even though they were paid for LT rates. Does this happen often or did I just have some bad luck where boh girls would run off. Maybe I can insist on making the payment in the morning when they are leaving.Can anyone provide some insights. Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Asianxguy]Spent this last weekend in Zhuhai and went straight to LianHua Lu. ..
To Asianxguy,
I had a similar experience to yours. In my case, I put my foot down. After the MM and I arrived at the hotel, she insisted on $$ up front, saying that she needed to pay mamasan. She also asked me for my real name and room number so that she can get back into the hotel after going downstairs. I said hell no. She was very insistent. Told her I wasn't born yesterday and that she'd better put out or get out.
That was THE WORST mongering evening I've had in my life. I was so pissed at that experience that I took the earliest bus back to Changping the next morning.
My rule right now is to always pay afterwards and ask for ST. If the experience warrants it, then ask for LT.
[QUOTE=Asianxguy]Spent this last weekend in Zhuhai and went straight to LianHua Lu. Went around grabbing a few numbers and went back to my hotel. I decided on having fun with 2 girls LT for the night. The first girl arrives, Ya-Nan and we take a shower together and afterwards just kept the bed warm. Then the next girl arrives and is shocked to find that I had another girl in bed. The second girl, Yo-yo asks for the money. I guess she thinks i did not have the money since i look really young (18yrs) but im much older than that. So i hand her the money. Apparently they know each other or at least have seen each other since they work the same area. Anyways, we had a threesome which was awesome with the usual routine. Then we take a quick break. One of the girls asked if she could have some food and i agreed and let them have some peanuts and noodles provided by the hotel. Later, the second girl, YoYo says that her auntie is downstairs and wants to get the money. Now is this a common routine where the auntie comes up and take the money? To make a long story short, both girls ran off and didn't come back even though they were paid for LT rates. Does this happen often or did I just have some bad luck where boh girls would run off. Maybe I can insist on making the payment in the morning when they are leaving.Can anyone provide some insights. Thanks[/QUOTE]
to asian x guy
We all made mistake when we are newbie , Just be sure to learn from your
mistake and move on and you be a experience monger in no time .
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Reader123]Asianxguy,
How much did you pay them and what time did you start? Was there an agreed departure time?
BTW, anyone been to the hotsprings? I saw them in the travel agency at the gongbei underground mall. Any "services" offered, like accompany you in the springs, etc?[/QUOTE]
There are no extra services offered at the Hot Spring Resort,Trust me I tried....
Good thing I didn't have enough time to go last time...otherwise wasted a day. How about Zhongshan hot springs? I heard third hand info that something is available at one of the springs, so a bit reluctant take a long bus ride for nothing.
For the Hot Springs there are at least half a dozen large and small places within 2 hours of Zhuhai. I've been to the two most famous ones, one is Ocean Springs and the other is "the first Japanese-style hot spring in China" and I forget its name. Ocean Spring is the newest, the biggest, and the best. And there ARE extra services available, but it's not cheap and it's not for the general public, as in it won't be offered to every customer and it will cost about 600 for massage/HJ combo...a buddy made it out to be something "privilaged" but afterwards, I just felt wasn't anything special beyond SOP handjob, just done in a nice spa environment...ha...if you go to Ocean Spring, PM me. Actually, the best thing to do is invite some SW/massage gal/girlfriend/mistress to spend a weekend there with you. The nice ambience and relaxing nature of the whole place should translate to lots of sex. Ocean Spring isn't cheap though, and spending a nice weekend (transportation, basic hot spring access, meals, regular foot/body massages) for 2 should set you back about 1200-1500RMB.
J
PS. Cebu Local?! You're alive!!
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]For the Hot Springs there are at least half a dozen large and small places within 2 hours of Zhuhai. I've been to the two most famous ones, one is Ocean Springs and the other is "the first Japanese-style hot spring in China" and I forget its name. Ocean Spring is the newest, the biggest, and the best. And there ARE extra services available, but it's not cheap and it's not for the general public, as in it won't be offered to every customer and it will cost about 600 for massage/HJ combo...a buddy made it out to be something "privilaged" but afterwards, I just felt wasn't anything special beyond SOP handjob, just done in a nice spa environment...ha...if you go to Ocean Spring, PM me. Actually, the best thing to do is invite some SW/massage gal/girlfriend/mistress to spend a weekend there with you. The nice ambience and relaxing nature of the whole place should translate to lots of sex. Ocean Spring isn't cheap though, and spending a nice weekend (transportation, basic hot spring access, meals, regular foot/body massages) for 2 should set you back about 1200-1500RMB.
J
PS. Cebu Local?! You're alive!![/QUOTE]Yes.I am ok,Sorry I missed you and AG,But I did something stupid again in Macau.I contracted a freelancer on a per pop she could get out of me basis.5 pops in 10 hours equals fatigue and visit to the clinic AGAIN.Thats why I am defenitely cutting back and pacing myself in the future.I will catch you next trip Cheers
Tried to PM you.
I'm trying to figured out what is the best way to compensate the gal for maybe 2 days at the springs. 200 a day base + 100 a pop and all (within reason) expenses covered? Hopefully, I won't end up in a clinic by an aggressive gal. hehe
First, I'll need to spend a day or two to feel out which gal is worth bringing.
Things got postponed.
I'll be there first week of July.
[QUOTE=Reader123]Tried to PM you.
I'm trying to figured out what is the best way to compensate the gal for maybe 2 days at the springs. 200 a day base + 100 a pop and all (within reason) expenses covered? Hopefully, I won't end up in a clinic by an aggressive gal. hehe
First, I'll need to spend a day or two to feel out which gal is worth bringing.[/QUOTE]
For this type of FS at the hot springs, bringing a gal with you is definately the best plan, and there are some things you need to consider:
1. what kind of work/compensation does she she usually get in a day? for example, if it's a Lian Hu Road girl, you could probably get a real hottie to come with you for 500 RMB per day, maybe 300 RMB if she likes you and you two have some chemistry. Your 200 + 100/pop sounds about right but I would actually just negotiate a flat fee and add "tips" if service is good.
2. I'd definately do a gal at least TWICE in the city before I brought her along to the hot springs. And let her know what you're planning ahead of time, so she gets the idea it is kind of like an audition.
3. You could probably ask a lot of non-pros, like students, waitresses, etc. who would be happy to accept your offer.
J
PS. I cleaned out the PM box. Man, I'm getting more MSGs than almight Cebu Local now! ha ha...just kidding, that would be impossible!
The compensation sounds fair. So maybe 600-700 for the KTV girls? One of the girls said they don't always get picked everyday, so they might like this arrangement.
I rarely get the chance to do a girl the second time, since there are so many. You feel that there is a high possibility that on the 2nd visit, the serivce drops considerably?
When you say the non-pros. Is that with compensation? I would think it is rare for them to go off with you for free unless you hit it off really well.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]For this type of FS at the hot springs, bringing a gal with you is definately the best plan, and there are some things you need to consider:
1. what kind of work/compensation does she she usually get in a day? for example, if it's a Lian Hu Road girl, you could probably get a real hottie to come with you for 500 RMB per day, maybe 300 RMB if she likes you and you two have some chemistry. Your 200 + 100/pop sounds about right but I would actually just negotiate a flat fee and add "tips" if service is good.
2. I'd definately do a gal at least TWICE in the city before I brought her along to the hot springs. And let her know what you're planning ahead of time, so she gets the idea it is kind of like an audition.
3. You could probably ask a lot of non-pros, like students, waitresses, etc. who would be happy to accept your offer.
J
PS. I cleaned out the PM box. Man, I'm getting more MSGs than almight Cebu Local now! ha ha...just kidding, that would be impossible![/QUOTE]
First of all, I want to thank Johnny for his hospitality over the last few days. it was a lot of fun hanging out. I'll let johnny fill in on the stuff we did together. I will start my report on after sending johnny off with his lian hua cutie.
Earlier in the evening Johnny and I were approached by a guy on the street promising cute, young girls. Out of curiousity we went up and checked out the place. The girls were as promised but we decided to check out lian hua action before committing.
So after johnny leaves, I decide to check out the place. Long story short,I should have listened to my head and not broke rule number one:
NEVER GO WITH A GUY PROMISING YOU GIRLS!
And rule number 2:
TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS. IF IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT, LEAVE!
Long story short, a few hours later, left the place with a black eye, a new "underground" contact, and the name of a new sauna which he promised me to be good.
So I am sharing the the goods with everyone here. The name is DaMingYuan, for all the chinese readers "大明园". The drivers all know this place, and johnny can give you detail location as he got my business card. Anyway, for the good room it's 280 at night and 238 during the date. the part that makes this place awesome is that is has over 100 girls working! I went there 2 times in 2 days after finding out about it and I was able to choose from at least 15 girls and still more wondering the halls that I did not get to choose. Definately the best sauna I've been to in Zhuhai. Hope everyone can enjoy this. Have fun and be safe out there.
[QUOTE=AZN Man] Long story short,I should have listened to my head and not broke rule number one:
NEVER GO WITH A GUY PROMISING YOU GIRLS!
And rule number 2:
TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS. IF IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT, LEAVE!
Long story short, a few hours later, left the place with a black eye, a new "underground" contact, and the name of a new sauna which he promised me to be good.
So I am sharing the the goods with everyone here. The name is DaMingYuan, for all the chinese readers "大明园". The drivers all know this place, and johnny can give you detail location as he got my business card. Anyway, for the good room it's 280 at night and 238 during the date. the part that makes this place awesome is that is has over 100 girls working! I went there 2 times in 2 days after finding out about it and I was able to choose from at least 15 girls and still more wondering the halls that I did not get to choose. Definately the best sauna I've been to in Zhuhai. Hope everyone can enjoy this. Have fun and be safe out there.[/QUOTE]
I'm confused by your report. You left with a black eye???
[QUOTE=AZN Man]..............
So after johnny leaves, I decide to check out the place. Long story short,I should have listened to my head and not broke rule number one:
NEVER GO WITH A GUY PROMISING YOU GIRLS!
And rule number 2:
TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS. IF IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT, LEAVE!
Long story short, a few hours later, left the place with a black eye, a new "underground" contact, and the name of a new sauna which he promised me to be good...........
[/QUOTE]
I know this is a confusing report, but basically, the moral of the story is don't follow touts and don't fight back. It's not worth the $100-200 USD you may be forced to give up. Plus, DO NOT bring girls back to some ratty-ass hotel...rent something decent and you'll be safe, otherwise the ratty-ass hotel will be in on the scam when people bust into your room...
Back to ANZ's report inconsistency...as most resident mongers know, Chinese culture, and this includes Chinese mafia, have strong issues about face, so somehow, ANZ Man used his charms to change a situation where he was to be beatdown/killed into one where the guy gives him a sauna recommendation...ha ha...only in China...
And seriously, ANZ Man is a P.I.M.P. and anyone here would have a great time hanging out with him in China, especially when he's turning on his charms on the females. I can imagine getting a cute freebie everyday if he and I and put our minds to it. It's like that video game "Forgotten Realms" where the two dudes get some special energy being closer to each other. Hope you come back soon and we'll drop some "underground cash" together...
J
Thanks johnny for the compliments. I think the fact I spoke mandrain and you spoke cantonese really helped too, especially in south china. you're not so bad witht he ladies yourself! I can confirm Johnny's CP (reference his previous posts) is exactly as he described.
I've got a couple of PM about DaMingYuan. Let me clarify:
238 for day time is All inclusive including girls fees
280 for night time is All inclusive including girls fees
As for the black eye, it wasn't from DaMingYuan. It's for following a tout to a private BBS in a high rise building. Basically don't follow guys promising you anywhere.
If you are in south china, definately try to hook up with Johnny. He should be able to steer you from trouble.
[QUOTE=AZN Man] -cut-
As for the black eye, it wasn't from DaMingYuan. It's for following a tout to a private BBS in a high rise building. Basically don't follow guys promising you anywhere.
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[/QUOTE]
Sorry I still don't understand what's the black eye for. From what I have read you were alone and checked out this place. Did you provoke him in anyway? How far is the high rise from Lian Hua Lu/Border because he's NOT going to get my business.
One more time for those that are still confused (I know you did it on purpose ANZ Man! ha ha...) here's the short of it:
1. ANZ and I followed a tout and saw good gals and cheap price
2. I left and decided to get a Lian Hua Road gal
3. ANZ went alone, got serviced by a gal, then got charged crazy fees, tried to leave and got roughed up
4. ANZ unleashed his nuclear bombs of Mandarin language charm and breakdancing skills and was able to get out of the situation...not only alive but even with a sauna recommendation from the dudes who roughed him up. Unless you, too, have these weapons of mass destruction, do not think you could acheive similar results.
5. So all of you out there, remember DO NOT FOLLOW TOUTS and if you find yourself in a shakedown DO NOT TRY TO GET PHYSICAL. You can try to talk to your way out, but getting physical = fatal beating/stabbing. There are hundreds of foot soldiers everywhere so don't think you can escape.
I've tried the sauna for foot massage and FS already and it's great. I still think CP saunas can't be beat for their consistent, excellent service but this would be my first choice in ZH. Big, clean, good service, lots of gals, so it's no wonder that there is a never ending stream of guys coming. I was waiting to see my boss or anyone else I knew...it's that type of sauna with a high "murse" (male purse) crowd walking into the place with a corrupt swagger. That means it's a good place, too, ha ha...Wouldn't really imagine it from the dingy outside, either.
And ANZ Man is too generous...there's only one P.I.M.P. and that is you, and you is he, the slick pimp A-N-Z...
J
I had enquired here a couple of months ago about the best way to get from Guangzhou to Zhuhai/Macau, and while a few people tried to be helpful, nobody was able to explain just how easy it actually is, so I want to add that info now. If someone has already done so in the intervening time, sorry. This turned out to be the simplest part of my trip. In the DOMESTIC arrivals area of the Guangzhou airport is a bus ticket counter. They sell tickets to multiple cities in the region. The one to Zhuhai leaves every 20 minutes and run from fairly early in the morning until, I believe, 10PM. Sorry I don't have that exact info, but there was a big crowd around blocking a good view of the timetable. There was a Zhuhai bus with one seat left getting ready to pull away, so they hustled me out to take the last seat, and I was not able to note all of the times. These are typical long distance China buses, so the seats are a little small and uncomfortable, and the A/C could use some work, but it gets you to where you are going. The bus stops at both of the long distance bus terminals in Zhuhai. To the northernmost one took 2:15 and to Gong Bei took 2:45. This was the day before a major holiday, so it is possible traffic was worse than usual.
[QUOTE=Minkfan1][QUOTE=Asianxguy]Spent this last weekend in Zhuhai and went straight to LianHua Lu. ..
To Asianxguy,
I had a similar experience to yours. In my case, I put my foot down. After the MM and I arrived at the hotel, she insisted on $$ up front, saying that she needed to pay mamasan. She also asked me for my real name and room number so that she can get back into the hotel after going downstairs. I said hell no. She was very insistent. Told her I wasn't born yesterday and that she'd better put out or get out.
That was THE WORST mongering evening I've had in my life. I was so pissed at that experience that I took the earliest bus back to Changping the next morning.
My rule right now is to always pay afterwards and ask for ST. If the experience warrants it, then ask for LT.[/QUOTE]
I agree with taking a girl short time first then decide if you like her service enough to take her long time. Why pay and take a girl long time if you don't know if you would like her service in the first place. This way you would not get ripped off with paying for long time and receiving short time.
888 rmb for 90 minutes of service. From what I understand, the girls take home 400 rmb. I assume they get paid the best out of all places in zh, so that place attracts many hot girls.
The place was very busy that night so there was limited selection... Was only shown 1 lineup of 10 girls. Usually we go through 3-5 lineups and mark down the numbers that we like. We then choose from our best picks.
Girl was from Heilongjiang (northern China). I'd rate her a 7.5 for looks if you compare her to other girls we've had before in that place.
She was only 165cm. Told me that is considered short from her area. I thought she was quite tall and long legged already!!! Breasts were very firm and cup C.
Service was a 8 for her (usually the service from most girls there are about a 9-10). I rate her a 8 because she wanted cbj. I convinced her to do condom free bj.
Wasn't into taking pictures naked.
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Thanks for member's recommendation from this board, I had pleasure to visit Da Ming Yuan Sauna 2 days ago. The place is has large message rooms that are relatively clean but with some dead air smell. The charges are as stated 238Rmb for daytime and 288 for after 8:pm and service lasts 90mins. I would say the girl quality are about 5-6 in looks and 7-8 for service. I had really tight pussy 18 years old who provide real GFE during the process although she was definitely not a stunner. Overall, it is a great place for value.
Side note, I also went Lian Hua Rd during the night. many girls in different ranges. My complain is that all of them are controlled a Ma Ma san or Pimps and they really make negotiation more complicated and unpleasant. And from the tellings of one of girl that I had, a lot of them are unwilling forced or controled by their pimps and they are treated badly. I would not go there again as the experience was safe and pleasant.
It's been a busy few weeks, but wanted to post some info that may help some
members in time of need...
First, finally had a chance to try the Da Ming Yuan massage joint that ANZ
Man had introduced. It's a good place, somewhat better facilities than the
average 300 RMB sauna place in Zhuhai. (Since late 2005, it seems like the
price of a sauna + FS in Zhuhai has fallen through the ground to 198 RMB
for cheapest I've found, to 580 RMB for a higher class sauna.)
The place looks unsuspecting from the outside, like a 2 star hotel and the
sauna facilities are on the third floor. All guests are immediately separated
into "sauna" and "non-sauna" patrons and if you say "sauna", you get shown
to the locker room or the private rooms on the second floor. The good thing
about this place is that everyone seems very professional and focused on
making sure all the guys are comfortable and happy. No real snickering or
"hint-hint" type of feeling here from anyone, the locker boys, the managers,
the girls, etc. Anyway, you choose from line-ups of about 5-8 girls each.
Quality is about the same as other places in my opinion, with ratings of
4-7 in looks. I was told there are over 100 girls working and I would believe
it, with the huge number of customers coming in and out of this place. Service
from my gal was a good, practiced routine, including body-to-body wash, cat
bath, rimming, and BBBJ with ice/tea/milk/jelly/pop rocks/some other BS. Xiao
Huang was #268, OK looking but nothing special (about 6), from Mongolia, 5'4,
big 34C breasts, and plump. Great BBBJ but CFS wasn't that good, kept preventing
me from entering her fully and complained about being tired. Then flipped her
for doggie and thought she was still moaning and complaining about pain/tired/
ect so I finished as quickly as possible. She then looked at me surprised when
I pulled out after about 5 minutes and said she was just starting to get into
the FS...what the hell. If I had another load, I would have given her a surprise
facial at this point...anyway, cleaned up and she wanted me to add another hour
(210 RMB) but I laughed and left. There was still about 25 minutes of the 90
minutes left. Overall, I can tell that the service routine at this place is
better than some other places in ZH and the girls don't BS you as much, but
I still think on a looks/service-against-looks/service battle, DG's saunas
can't be beat. Price before 8pm is 230 RMB (210 with VIP card) and from 8pm-
3am is 280 RMB (260 with VIP card). Prices quoted for private room. If you
prefer communial shower and barren room with 2 massage tables put together,
prices are about 50 RMB less for each quote.
Also had a chance to try the Yindo Hotel sauna. I had actually been "saving"
this for a while based on Nightdragon's spectacular report a while ago. I
went about 10pm and seemed like I was one of the only guys there that night.
Facilities were OK, better than DMY (above) but not enough to justify the
cost difference. The girls were slightly better looking, ranged from 5-7, and
again, not enough to justify difference in cost. There were only about 12 girls
total to choose from, so after two lineups, I chose the one gal from Xinjiang.
Kind of pale face and hairy arms and even slight mustache going on...ha ha...
not as bad as it sounds; was just different from usual Chinese gal and I felt
interested. Forgot her name, but she told me there are only two Xinjiang gals
and this one is the taller, huskier one. She's about 5'6, medium 32B breasts,
white-ish skin and a bit of meat on her, some would consider fat, so those
of you looking for a typical slim Chinese gal, avoid her. Although there
are plenty of other reasons to avoid...Service was very average and included
standard BBBJ, limited body licking, and CFS. I even had to "convince" her that
the boss said 2 pops in the designated 90 minutes of service time was approved.
What the fuck...anyway, overall, I guess this place feels somewhat cleaner
than other saunas, but it just didn't meet what I thought it would be and
especially for the price. Overall, it was 298 RMB for room + 300 for the gal.
So the total of 598 got me two very average pops from an unenthusiastic gal.
Won't be going back there ever again.
So, in short, the FS sauna industry is alive and kicking in ZH with no problems,
but becareful of where you choose to drop your money, you may not be happy
with the resulting quality/service.
J
Guess I will have to continue polluting the ZH thread with
all my posts...
Anyway, been pretty busy with general work things lately, but
continue to monger and discover new things about this great city.
I reported a few weeks ago about a decent threesome I had. Now,
the catalyst in all of this has been the girl I refer to as Cutie
Pie (CP) because she looks like a cute high school freshman. Looks
about 16 but claims to be 18. Killer cute body with perfect combination
of tight, lean body with nice fist-sized 32 large B/small C breasts.
Don't let her cute young look fool you, though, she gives good FS
with matching thrusts, real moans, etc. but the bad thing is she
gets tired of sex after about 20 minutes. I usually take about 30
so she starts sweet then I can't stand her at 21 minutes, ha...
Anyway, that doesn't stop me from joking around with her when I see
her roaming Lian Hua Road or calling her to send her friends over.
So, recently, I called CP's friend directly, who wanted to bring CP
for another threesome. I declined (even though the dynamics of a
threesome matchup with CP's physical limitations better than a 1-on-1
session) then the friend decliined to come over, but she recomended
another friend. I called this friend and we both realized that she
was the gal that I had set Dar up with for his threesome a few weeks
ago. I had also had her last week and she's pretty good, too, in a
similar vein physically as CP, but not as cute. If CP is an 7.5
(with extra .5 for her cuteness) then this gal is a 6. I decided to
ask her over and after 10 minutes, I get a call saying she arrived
at my place downstairs. Imagine my surprise when I opened the door
and saw not one, but two cuties! The gal had brought her friend to
try "the nice foreigner who doesn't look like a foreigner". Ha ha...
that's what friends are for...
The friend was pretty nice, with a long, lean body, goofy innocent
smile, nice handful breasts with only-on-the-young pink nipples,
and firmly in the "I-guess-they're-18" category. Girl seemed happy
to discover I looked the way I look and they both proposed a threesome
before I declined in the interest of fucking the shit out of new
girl...Original girl volunteered to watch TV in the next room as
I fucked, but I laughingly declined. She left to go shopping and
when I got back from escorting her out the front door, new girl was
already nude on the sofa and looked ready to go! I held off and we
had a nice shower then great FS. She has an interesting BBBJ technique
with lots of licking and sucking alternation and had to stop her
before I CIM. Had to DATY this young thing and it was sweet as all
young gals should be and she nearly pulled my ears off in ecstatic
thanks. Put on the condom and had great, unrushed FS. Was tight and
wet and great. Finished and paid the standard 200 and gave her some
apples and oranges since I didn't have change for the taxi, ha ha...
she actually was very happy with the fruit. Definately a repeat and
just goes to show you guys, treat these gals nicely and not only will
they treat you nicely, word will get around and you'll become a
valuable "treat" among the gals. Nothing special, mind you, just
a FS client that they don't totally hate and have to blank out their
minds when fucking...
Also, here are some numbers of Lian Hua Road gals that ANZ Man and
I picked up walking around (ofcourse, I haven't gotten shit the one
time I walked the area by myself since ANZ left; all gals are taller,
about 5'5 and up, and tend to be on the larger breasted side, the
minimum rating I give these girls is a 6 or up, otherwise I throw their
numbers away immediately):
131*2306262
1342502*689
*3226039293
13824*44973
1323250843*
The missing number is the answer to this question: How many NBA
championships do the Miami Heat have?
Also, I somewhat disagree with Youngboss. I think it's true that 99%
of the Lian Hua Road gals are controlled by a male/female pimp, but
they usually have nothing to do with negotiations. You just negotiate
with the girls and the standard rate is 200 RMB ST / 400 LT. You might
go directly to a pimp if you want multiple girls or want to arrange a
super LT like 4-5 days, but otherwise, I don't see a reason to deal with
pimps directly. And most of the Lian Hua Road girls I've talked to like
their pimps and think things are OK, just wished that there was more
business. I'm sure there are those forced to be SW, but luckily, I haven't
met many, or I guess I haven't been subjected to many sob stories, real
or fabricated.
J
I always get a small chuckle out of your missing number trivia...
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]
131*2306262
1342502*689
*3226039293
13824*44973
1323250843*
The missing number is the answer to this question: How many NBA
championships do the Miami Heat have?[/QUOTE]
This one is too easy. If you know the Chinese numbering system for mobiles, you got the answer already. I don't think it is a good idea to reveal mobiles publicly. LE looks over our shoulders.
Do you guys carry your passport while out? Will a photocopy of my passport or other forms of ID(ie US drivers license) good enough?
I carry a copy of my passport sealed in plastic and keep my passport in the hotel safety deposit box or in the safe in my room(if the room has in room safes). I haven't had a problem being asked for my paqssport yet but I know that they say you are suppose to have your passport with you while in many countries.
[QUOTE=Reader123]Do you guys carry your passport while out? Will a photocopy of my passport or other forms of ID(ie US drivers license) good enough?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Reader123]Do you guys carry your passport while out? Will a photocopy of my passport or other forms of ID(ie US drivers license) good enough?[/QUOTE]
I've actually been stopped by cops twice, once while mongering along Lian Hua Road at about 1am in the morning and once while scoping out girls while slowly rolling by on the back of a motocycle taxi (notice a pattern? ha ha...). Both times, I'm sure it was the cops being bored as shit and wanting to do something entertaining.
Anyway, I just started speaking English and within 10 seconds they just said to forget the whole thing and waved me on. Personally, I never carry any ID around, maybe a business card in English, that's it. I'm assuming this scenario would be impossible with a "white/non-Asian" foreigner and you don't need to carry any ID around, but it wouldn't hurt to have a copy of your passport around, it'd save you lots of time if you ever got into a jam. I'll try to listen to my own advice, I guess...
J
Always keep your original in a locked safe or somewhere really secure. Carry copies of your passport with the China entry visa will suffice.
JohnnyK is right, try to talk English when confronted with the law, it will get you out of a jam most of the time. They'll have the "what the f*ck" look and then the "get out of my face" gesture.
Bill
[QUOTE=Reader123]Do you guys carry your passport while out? Will a photocopy of my passport or other forms of ID(ie US drivers license) good enough?[/QUOTE]
Hi Johnny
Tried to send you PM,But I am fine though I will have to cut back because my "buffet"style approach to service has been to tiring and leading to hypertension episodes according to my Doctor.Catch you in Zhuhai soon.Yes talking English generally works with LE.It is not worth the hassle for them to call the English speaking cop unless you do something really stupid.But Zhuhai has a FEW english speaking ones.Cheers
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]I've actually been stopped by cops twice, once while mongering along Lian Hua Road at about 1am in the morning and once while scoping out girls while slowly rolling by on the back of a motocycle taxi (notice a pattern? ha ha...). Both times, I'm sure it was the cops being bored as shit and wanting to do something entertaining.
Anyway, I just started speaking English and within 10 seconds they just said to forget the whole thing and waved me on. Personally, I never carry any ID around, maybe a business card in English, that's it. I'm assuming this scenario would be impossible with a "white/non-Asian" foreigner and you don't need to carry any ID around, but it wouldn't hurt to have a copy of your passport around, it'd save you lots of time if you ever got into a jam. I'll try to listen to my own advice, I guess...
J[/QUOTE]Actually, it would be funny if you did it one after the other. The cops probably recognize you as a fixture in the area and decided to check you out.
I checked the area out last friday and saturday. Met a really good looker outside of the Regency hotel. I saw her first at about 4:00 but did not take her til 10:00. She was really good looking. Nice, firm, C's, long legs, and darkish skin. She was from Jiangsu. Usual 200 ST. I must be getting better at mongering because when i asked "how much" she said "you know".
I was sick during this weekend and had my regular GF meet me on saturday. Don't know why I did it. Except that she's 22, hot, and a very giving lover. I just was too weak to monger.
Lian Hua lu is awesome. I like the umbrella stands. You can sit there and drink whatever you want and just watch girls until you are ready. The girls in Zhuhai dress very sexy. It is very different from SZ or GZ. Usually you should no what you are getting. I mean you won't wonder where they went after the bra comes off and a lot of them were not wearing one. There are some really good looking women in Zhuhai. I was surprised. On average, much better looking than bbs in DG. I hope I can return someday.
Savannah
Some members have PM'd me on the location and name of the sauna in Zhuhai. As I said, the name REALLY is "Zhuhai Holiday Resort Hotel". If you go later at night, you can even ask to stay in the same room to sleep in for no extra charge.
The elong.net link to the hotel is: [url]http://www.elong.net/hotels/details...otelid=42004001[/url]
I've attached another picture of the same girl for your pleasure...
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=47241[/url]
[QUOTE=John Siron]888 rmb for 90 minutes of service. From what I understand, the girls take home 400 rmb. I assume they get paid the best out of all places in zh, so that place attracts many hot girls.
The place was very busy that night so there was limited selection... Was only shown 1 lineup of 10 girls. Usually we go through 3-5 lineups and mark down the numbers that we like. We then choose from our best picks.
Girl was from Heilongjiang (northern China). I'd rate her a 7.5 for looks if you compare her to other girls we've had before in that place.
She was only 165cm. Told me that is considered short from her area. I thought she was quite tall and long legged already!!! Breasts were very firm and cup C.
Service was a 8 for her (usually the service from most girls there are about a 9-10). I rate her a 8 because she wanted cbj. I convinced her to do condom free bj.
Wasn't into taking pictures naked.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=46876[/url][/QUOTE]
Just another note to all: if you want to skip all the bath and shower routine in this sauna place, you could request go to VIP room directly upon entering the sauna, and they will lead you to the VIP rooms directly through another door. The VIP room is a bit pricey though, starting at $488 on top of what you normally pay for the regular rooms. But you got to choose girls inside the VIP room, and they will shower with you inside the room.
[QUOTE=John Siron]Some members have PM'd me on the location and name of the sauna in Zhuhai. As I said, the name REALLY is "Zhuhai Holiday Resort Hotel". If you go later at night, you can even ask to stay in the same room to sleep in for no extra charge.
The elong.net link to the hotel is: [url]http://www.elong.net/hotels/details...otelid=42004001[/url]
I've attached another picture of the same girl for your pleasure...
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=47241[/url][/QUOTE]
Stayed at the Guangdong Regency hotel (YueHai) a while ago.
First of all general impression of Zhuhai is...Wow! Lots and lots and lots of nice looking girls just walking around in the afternoon. Presume a lot of these are part timers available for pickup but I didn't have time and had a colleague in tow.
Briefly looked into the KTV/Nightclub, a few hotties were wandering around wearing black gowns, plus one or two sitting in an open area with customers and one dancing with her customer. As I was leaving one stunner walked past however I don't really get KTV's so decided to stick with my original plan of going to the sauna instead.
The Sauna was much the same as I have experienced in Shanghai: change, shower, put on silly looking pyjamas, sit in waiting area in front of TV, lead to a room. I rejected the girl who was waiting there as she was simply not up to standard (very skinny and no breasts). Asked for a lineup of 3 or 4 to choose from, the mamasan said OK and then came back with one girl (!). Was going to reject and insist on a lineup as it was 9.30pm but quiet, however this girl had a nice shape and was giving a very cute shy smile, so I thought the service from this one might be GFE.
The room was oversized, a KTV style area by the door, a message table in a separate area behind, and a large bathroom with spa pool, shower and 'wet massage' table. First the girl shyly took off her top as she stood next to me in the KTV area, then led me to the massage table for the normal massage. After a while was then led to the shower for a quick rub down, and back to the massage table for what I was there for. She claimed she was a bit nervous as it was her first day there and I was her first foreigner. She warmed up though and the service was as I had expected, quite GFE. We tried a few positions although she did not want to be done from behind as she claimed it hurt. Quick shower again and we prepared to leave.
I will be back in Zhuhai in a couple of weeks so we exchanged mobile numbers. The next morning I saw a message from her at 1.40am, so I guess she would have come up to my room after work. Would not have been able to partake anyway as had meetings that morning. Have received messages since (although I can't read characters!) so follow up definitely possible when I go back!
I also asked her if the same girls work in the KTV, she said mostly different girls and they earn more there, so action with the stunners in the KTV definitely possible. If any senior members or regular regulars are going to be in Zhuhai in mid July and want to check it out PM me.
Cheers,
Mianbao
About my earlier post in zhuhai, I definitely learned a few things in hindsight. ST is a good idea and if service is outstanding, it may warrant LT. But originally the agreed upon price for LT was 600rmb until 8am. But I was originally quoted at 800rmb. I didn't want the mama coming up into my room so sent the girl to go give the money to the mama, but I guess that was my mistake. Next time I will stand my ground and pay after service rendered. But that was the first time the incident happened to me since I usually do ST so thought LT may have been a bit different.
BUt it looks like it may be common since it has also happened to Minkman. =x I'm just glad they didn't stay LT especially if there intent is to rip me off. Who knows what other things they would have stolen!
On the bright note, there's always macau sauna across the border =)
BTW, are there any saunas in Zhuhai that have similar services like in macau where you get unlimited food and drinks and can watch tv and lounge around all day? I've been to the one with 238/288vip near gongbei border crossing but the setup didn't quite have the same atmosphere.
Chin1970: I didn't know they had a separate part where you can shower before going into the room. I've always had the girls showering with me... Actually I've always had the girls strip for me and help me take my clothes off also. Maybe they treat me like a regular there and automatically give me VIP service?? Some rooms I've been into are pretty big with a bathtub and all.
[QUOTE=Chin1970]Just another note to all: if you want to skip all the bath and shower routine in this sauna place, you could request go to VIP room directly upon entering the sauna, and they will lead you to the VIP rooms directly through another door. The VIP room is a bit pricey though, starting at $488 on top of what you normally pay for the regular rooms. But you got to choose girls inside the VIP room, and they will shower with you inside the room.[/QUOTE]
The other day I read the news that the Richmond Hill hotel is re-opening after a massive renovation with new owners and etc. Anyone tried the health centre yet? before it closed down for renovation, the health centre featured some hotties and standard macau service at much lower cost.
I guess in most saunas you can skip showering in the main area and shower in the room (with the girl) if you are happy spending a bit extra for a VIP room. At the GD Regency I ended up showering twice, once when I arrived, and again with the girl once in the room. I would have gone to the room directly had I known (and if I had actually wanted a VIP room).
By the way I paid RMB298 for the VIP room + RMB300 tip for the girl. I moaned a bit on the way out as they had not given me options on the way in, it was only once in the VIP room that the girl mentioned that this room was much bigger than the others!
Hi Bros.,
Anyone know what time the Sauna start everyday and what time most girls start work?
Anyone has the phone number for Holiday Inn Sauna?
Thanks,
Ken
In terms of most saunas I've had experiences with, the "VIP rooms" are usually
from double to triple the size of the normal rooms. Also, they always have a
private shower inside and usually some kind of massage bed inside the shower
area as well, but not always. The primary incentive, for me anyway, is that I
don't have annoying shower room attendants pestering me, don't have a smelly
locker room environment to deal with, and don't have to see lots of fat,
disgusting men lounging around in varying states of nakedness. I usually get
better service from the girls in a VIP room compared to a normal room, too.
And, if you needed any more reason, sleeping overnight (or even resting for a
few hours) in a VIP room on a real bed is much better than lounging on two
massage tables pushed together like in most normal rooms.
Also, I had a chance to try out a few more saunas in the past two weeks or so
in ZH. Tried Da Ming Yuan again and was pleased with the service. The interesting
thing was that this second time I tried it was about 12am in the morning on a
Saturday night. The place must have been totally packed...asked for a sauna and
was made to wait for about 15 minutes for a room. Then they took me up to the
5th floor, which was strange, because starting on the 4th floor are regular hotel
rooms. After talking to the male captain, I realized that things were so busy
that night, that they were using the hotel rooms for sauna service! Overall, if
the normal sauna rooms are rated 2 star quality and are X size, then the hotel
rooms would be about 2.5 star quality and be 2X size, not bad if you are planning
on getting 288 full service and then staying overnight till 12pm the next morning.
I wish I could remember the number of the gal that I got service from, #189 (?),
but she was about 5'4 and slim and from Hunan. There was no smiling or giggling or
"good vibes" from this girl for me, but there weren't any "bad vibes" either. She
had relatively the best body out of all the available gals, and I was trying to get
a comparison of "fat girl service" vs. "skinny girl service". She gave the standard
BBBJ with the various liquids, anal rimming, and decent CFS, but overall, I'd say
the fatter girl I had last time in Da Ming Yuan was better than this time; I felt
like the fat girl "didn't mind" doing the serivce, or at least "minded less",
whereas this skinnier girl seemed to have the attitude "let me get this over with
ASAP" but still trying to provide the standard routine. The fat girl was tighter
than the skinny girl, too, and maybe that means that the skinny girls gets more
customers than the fat girl, but who knows, hard to get definitive details on these
kind of observations. At the end, paid 288 (fucking forgot to bring my VIP card)
and no tip paid/asked for. Overall, the service at DMY is better (by a bit, but not
that much) than other sauans in ZH.
One situation that fucked up my memory of the recent past is a sticky situation
I've gotten myself into involving some "freebie" Filippinas I met recently. I
don't want to get into too many details here since I have a feeling that they
would somehow find my post and hunt me down and slice off my penis. But the
short summary is that there is one lonely-ass Filippina somewhat near the GZ
area (her friend can probably be included in this description) who doesn't
understand much Chinese and is DESPERATE for some male company. The huge
disclaimer is that some girls have been hit by the ugly stick, but this gal got
a full beat-down by a gang of ugly sticks...I would call her a dog, but I don't
want to insult dogs. She is short, plump, mid-to-late 20s, and I am sure you
can fuck her on the first date. I just couldn't stomach the thought of doing
anything and didn't want to waste this "opportunity" for some ISG brother.
Again, you would consider this ONLY if you are the kind of dude that would fuck
anything...on a scale of 1-10, I'd rate her "burnt orange" because her unique
"fugly-ness" requires a scale that's not equatable with numbers. Any members
who are daring, or that horny, PM me for her mobile.
Now, continuing with my sauna reports, I also had a chance to try Bu Bu Gao
sauna again. Overall, nothing has changed from the last time I came here. I
was under the impression that the place had undergone a renovation recently,
but it's the same as about 2 months ago. Perhaps compared to 1 year ago it
looks better. Anyway, I had #97 or #98 (again, the numbers/names of these gals
are hard to remember since I don't write them down) but she was from Xi'an.
I chose her because I was looking for a "fat girl service" to compare to DMY.
She's about 5'5, plump enough to be considered chubby (but if she ate right
and worked out at a gym regularly, she'd be fucking hot and voluptuous because
of her natural thickness), and has a pleasant face. The funny thing is that
her husky, scratchy voice turned me one because that's usually a sign that she
has performed oral service for a while and should indicate that her oral skills
are good, and my guess was right. Quick shower and then light catbath all over
the body and then I'm not sure what she was doing for the anal rim, it felt kind
of like her tongue but I don't think it was...I was in a position on my hands
and knees and couldn't get a good angle to see what it was. It was warm-ish and
soft like her tongue but...not. Anyway, I decided to leave it a wonderous sauna
mystery to be solved another time. Another interesting thing is that in this sauna,
CBJ is the standard, so you have to ask for a girl that gives BBBJ at the time of
selecting the gals or you'll be frustrated/disappointed. Anyway, I didn't mind
this time, and fat girl had an interesting technique where she put the tapoicia
pearls into a condom, put it on my dick, and then gave a fire/ice CBJ. Interesting
sensation with all the tapoicias swirling around inside the condom with her expert
tongue pushing them. Then change condom and had several positions before a great
reverse cowgirl finish. We chatted and talked for a while then got a second CBJ/CFS
for 100 RMB extra. Finished after about 120 minutes total in the room, gave her
the 100 then paid 300 at the front desk. Overall, I prefer DMY's standard service
but BBG sauna isn't bad.
Since Richmond seems to be open, I'll make an effort to try it out this week and
report.
J
If you are in the ZH region, why would you want to "fuck anything"??? Seriously.... ZH has the best looking girls from all over China. If I died and gone to heaven, I would want heaven to be in a ZH sauna... that's how good the overall quality is in ZH.
The quality on Lianhua road isn't that good in my own opinion, but if you head over to a high quality spa/sauna, the girls are pretty damn hot!
Btw Johnnykon666. Really funny report on the filipina ladies!!
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]The huge disclaimer is that some girls have been hit by the ugly stick, but this gal got a full beat-down by a gang of ugly sticks...I would call her a dog, but I don't want to insult dogs. She is short, plump, mid-to-late 20s, and I am sure you can fuck her on the first date. I just couldn't stomach the thought of doing anything and didn't want to waste this "opportunity" for some ISG brother. Again, you would consider this ONLY if you are the kind of dude that would fuck anything...on a scale of 1-10, I'd rate her "burnt orange" because her unique "fugly-ness" requires a scale that's not equatable with numbers. Any members who are daring, or that horny, PM me for her mobile.[/QUOTE]
You're right, John, and that's why I'll never touch her. I thought about it for
1 minute, since free pussy is free pussy...but in this case, even my basic
male instincts must be overruled. I actually feel sorry for Filippino guys...
somebody help me by posting some attractive F-girls so I can try to erase
the image of this gal from my mind...Surprisingly, one ISG member has asked
me about this gal already, and here's some general information so you don't
need to contact me with small detail questions:
-she got a bad ugly-stick beatdown from God
-she's single, but willing to fuck married guys on the side
-she's about 5'1 or 5'2, 120-130 lbs
-she would be considered chubby and/or out of shape but not necessarily
a fat-slob-pig-Jabba the hut type
-she has medium breasts, about 34 B
-her skin is light brown but some acne
-she's ugly
-her English is good enough for a decent conversation but she's not totally
fluent
-her Chinese language is basically zero and she will rely on you for translation
if you're out and about in China
-she lives about 1 hour outside of GZ
-she's ugly and desperate for male attention of any kind
John, what saunas are you going to in ZH? In general, I think some sauna
gals are attractive, but overall, my personal opinion is that the average
sauna girl in Dongguan/Changping is the best in China and the average
SW girl on Lian Hua road is the best in China. Ofcourse, the best individual
gal I've seen in a sauna was in Hong Kong and the best individual
SW I've seen was in GZ....ha ha...
J
[QUOTE=John Siron]If you are in the ZH region, why would you want to "fuck anything"??? Seriously.... ZH has the best looking girls from all over China. If I died and gone to heaven, I would want heaven to be in a ZH sauna... that's how good the overall quality is in ZH.
The quality on Lianhua road isn't that good in my own opinion, but if you head over to a high quality spa/sauna, the girls are pretty damn hot!
Btw Johnnykon666. Really funny report on the filipina ladies!![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=John Siron]If you are in the ZH region, why would you want to "fuck anything"??? Seriously.... ZH has the best looking girls from all over China. If I died and gone to heaven, I would want heaven to be in a ZH sauna... that's how good the overall quality is in ZH.[/QUOTE]Actually most of the working girls are not from ZH or Southern China. They come from other parts of China to find work in large cities like Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen and ZH. Southern girls generally are not as tall and pretty.
Johnny
I cannot understand why anybody would want to fuck an ugly Filipina freebie,When you get pretty Filipina freebies without too much effort,there are tens of thousands of Filipinas in Macau and Hundreds of thousands in HK.Anyway just my two centavos opinion.Will you be in town in September???Cheers CL
Hey CL,
I'm not saying people should fuck an ugly Filipina...but when it becomes "freebie"
then things are different. Kind of like where you wouldn't buy some shitty food
at some restaurant, but suddenly when it becomes "free samples" or "all you
can eat", then the whole scenario changes for a lot of people...
Anyway, with all the mongering going on, I couldn't in good conscience just
throw a "sure freebie" away, even if I personally wouldn't be taking advantage,
after all, that's what mongering buddies are about, right? Not the women, but
helping each other out.
Also, walking around with Reader123 yesterday, there were some fine, fine
specimens...seems like the combination of pleasant weather at night and good
stylists results in some very, very nice girls walking around and available for
200 RMB. Will try one or more tonight and see what I can do about pics.
And I'll be here. Just call/PM me.
J
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Johnny
I cannot understand why anybody would want to fuck an ugly Filipina freebie,When you get pretty Filipina freebies without too much effort,there are tens of thousands of Filipinas in Macau and Hundreds of thousands in HK.Anyway just my two centavos opinion.Will you be in town in September???Cheers CL[/QUOTE]
Numbers on Lian Hua Lu is because he is practically running through the street. Imagine the girls trying to approach him on heels... I was sweating bullets trying to keep up in the heat. My personal experience to get the most numbers is a slow stroll or sit at the green umbrellas. If a girl is hanging off you, walk even slower so you don't finish walking the road. Otherwise, you might find yourself walking up and down several times...and feeling a bit foolish at the same time. I'm getting calluses walking up and down the street.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Hey CL,
I'm not saying people should fuck an ugly Filipina...but when it becomes "freebie"
then things are different. Kind of like where you wouldn't buy some shitty food
at some restaurant, but suddenly when it becomes "free samples" or "all you
can eat", then the whole scenario changes for a lot of people...
Anyway, with all the mongering going on, I couldn't in good conscience just
throw a "sure freebie" away, even if I personally wouldn't be taking advantage,
after all, that's what mongering buddies are about, right? Not the women, but
helping each other out.
Also, walking around with Reader123 yesterday, there were some fine, fine
specimens...seems like the combination of pleasant weather at night and good
stylists results in some very, very nice girls walking around and available for
200 RMB. Will try one or more tonight and see what I can do about pics.
And I'll be here. Just call/PM me.
J[/QUOTE]
Just wanted to add a quick report. Had a chance earlier this week to try some
of the tasty new gals working Lotus Road. Must be a new crop or something
because they are the best I've seen in the past few months I've been here.
This tall, thin cutie just blew me away when I saw her...about 5'8, long long
shapely legs sticking out of short short denim shorts, hair pulled back to show
off her 18-year old freshness...so, well, I just had to have her. Jia Jia is from
Helongjiang and supposedly has been in Zhuhai for 1 week. Had her come over
to my place and her mammy called about a million times to check on her hot,
young paycheck. Anyway, we strip for a shower and I'm instantly hard looking
at her thin, tight body. Some guys will deduct points for her A-cups, but I like
them small anyway. She gave me a nice wash then joined me in bed. She
started with light kissing then gave some light body kissing before I couldn't
resist and started DFK, eating up her body, and then ending with DATY on her
almost-hairless pussy. A sweet time all around...but mammy called twice during
the act and was pushing her to hurry up. I put on the condom and started
missionary and finish with her on top. Tight and wet and good actress.
The problems started when she wanted more money because I "took longer
than the 15-20 minutes that other guys take." Ha ha...it was an idiotic
scene with her and I going back and forth how I was willing to give 200 +
20 for taxi but she wanted 300 + 20. After about 15 minutes of her pretending
to cry, calling mammy numerous times, treatening hired muscle coming, etc.,
she finally called it quits. I even escorted her to a taxi outside and waved
and gave her a purposely-goofy-and-happy "Bye Bye!" to which she actually
smiled. Just goes to show you that it's almost always a money grab no matter
what happens and just don't be pushed into giving another rate for no reason.
She even pulled out the "are all foreigners so cheap??" with which I replied
"are all prostitutes so conniving to foreigners?? you're lucky I'm not a local
Chinese or I'd beat you!" to which she kind of smiled.
Anyway, attached are some pics (with certain sensitive details erased).
Overall, she is a beautiful thing to fuck, but maybe it would be easier to get
good service if you have a hotel in the Gongbei area. 130756*9965 is her
mobile and you need to speak Mandarin or at least know what your hotel is
in Mandarin. Missing number: How many goals did Italy score in their semi-final
match with Germany?
Looks: 7.5
Body: 8
Service: 6
Overall: 5, mostly cause of money-grab, wouldn't do her again but would
enjoy watching her strut her stuff on Lotus Road...
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]with which I replied
"are all prostitutes so conniving to foreigners??J[/QUOTE]
Bravo Johnny...so much mind fuking game instead of just focus on their customer service fuking ability. I would passed her just looking at her face cause it showed that this actress could be a potential attitudinal problem during the final act as you had confirmed.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]130756*9965 is her mobile and you need to speak Mandarin or at least know what your hotel is in Mandarin. Missing number: How many goals did Italy score in their semi-final match with Germany?
Looks: 7.5
Body: 8
Service: 6
Overall: 5, mostly cause of money-grab, wouldn't do her again but would
enjoy watching her strut her stuff on Lotus Road.
J[/QUOTE]I would just call that number just to see if I got the score correct. Johnny, your posts are quite entertaining.
Thanks!
I guess I really must walk too fast, young and old mongers who walk around with
me complain about this. But anyway, if I were in a city where A) I didn't work
B) I didn't live C) didn't care to get "known" for mongering, then hell, I'd wear a
damn t-shirt that stated "*****s - get to know me" in addition to waving an
American flag and shouting English...
But, as my current situation is the opposite of A/B/C, I have to do some
semi-stealth mongering. Overall, I've gotten numbers of gals I like when I
do go walking around, that's why you don't see me complaining on the board
anymore. And, I'm generally satisfied with all the "referrals" being sent to me
by other gals.
In my experience, sitting at the green umbrellas is good for decent, cheap
coffee and juice, joking around with the the cafe girls, checking out the
workers at they walk by, and getting pestered by ugly/fat/old Lotus Road
workers. Don't know about you, but I'd rather not have regular bouts of
detail #4. I've never gotten attention from a decent Lotus Road gal sitting at
the green umbrella places and I don't like calling girls over to negotiate with
me out in the open. It's my conservative upbringing in the States that makes
me feel weird to be sitting and discussing anything with a SW in a public
place; it's just the whole fake pretense of her spending any additional time
beyond the fucking. That's why I generally never take SWs out to eat or
shopping or other things unless they bring it up after a couple of sessions
and they dress more normally. Also, on Lotus Road I know the price is 200
RMB standard, so if I see a gal I like, then I'll zero in on her, take her back to
my place. Simple and quick. I can't imagine too many interesting conversations
I could have with them in private much less publicly.
I'm waiting to see your "game" tonight at the bars! Ha ha...
J
[QUOTE=Reader123]Numbers on Lian Hua Lu is because he is practically running through the street. Imagine the girls trying to approach him on heels... I was sweating bullets trying to keep up in the heat. My personal experience to get the most numbers is a slow stroll or sit at the green umbrellas. If a girl is hanging off you, walk even slower so you don't finish walking the road. Otherwise, you might find yourself walking up and down several times...and feeling a bit foolish at the same time. I'm getting calluses walking up and down the street.[/QUOTE]
After being here for a bit, I find myself walking faster now esp to fend off all kinds of solicitations/scams. One of the most annoying thing that I found is girls that won't leave you alone once you got their number, since you're a sitting duck drinking at the umbrellas. Johnny got this nice coffee spot on the 2nd floor for those that like to check the street action in peace.
I got a cutie referral from Johnny last night, which is a good idea for those that want something screened.
Looking forward to tonight!
The more I see them, the more I must say that many of the SWs on Lotus Road
destroy the SWs, sauna workers, KTV gals, and BBS gals in another other part
of China...amazing quality for 200 ST.
Anyway, walking about at 1am yesterday, there were no shortage of cuties,
and here are some numbers I picked up. All ranked at least a 6 or above, sorry
there were so many cuties I forgot who's who, but they are all young, tight,
and fuckable, that's for sure. So, for those of you who like to play Chinese
pussy Russian roulette, here you go:
1382414497*
1*544928990
13112*06262
311*057 (couldn't forget her, super-duper fucking hot but wouldn't come to my
place, only would go to a hotel nearby Lotus Road...please try her and
let me know if she's a hot in bed as in looks...name is Fong Fong)
Missing digit: How many stomachs do cows and sheep have?
J
Uhhh... thats what I said. You quoted me saying the same thing.
[QUOTE=Fran123]Actually most of the working girls are not from ZH or Southern China. They come from other parts of China to find work in large cities like Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen and ZH. Southern girls generally are not as tall and pretty.[/QUOTE]
I've been to a few in ZH but as I mentioned earlier in my other postings, the "Holiday Resort Hotel" has the best sauna.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]John, what saunas are you going to in ZH? In general, I think some sauna gals are attractive, but overall, my personal opinion is that the average sauna girl in Dongguan/Changping is the best in China and the average
SW girl on Lian Hua road is the best in China. Ofcourse, the best individual gal I've seen in a sauna was in Hong Kong and the best individual SW I've seen was in GZ....ha ha...[/QUOTE]
Reader123,
I can sympathize with you. I thought it was my age and lack of physcial stamina. Johnny moves like a rocket. Try hunting for BBS with him up and down alleys.
OAH
[QUOTE=Reader123]Numbers on Lian Hua Lu is because he is practically running through the street. Imagine the girls trying to approach him on heels... I was sweating bullets trying to keep up in the heat. My personal experience to get the most numbers is a slow stroll or sit at the green umbrellas. If a girl is hanging off you, walk even slower so you don't finish walking the road. Otherwise, you might find yourself walking up and down several times...and feeling a bit foolish at the same time. I'm getting calluses walking up and down the street.[/QUOTE]
Totally agreed. Besides Holiday Resort hotel, I've been to the Richmond Hill, Holiday Inn and Harbour View hotel sauna. But overall, Holiday Resort has the best quality in terms of hardware, girls & services.
Anyone been to Qun Hao Sauna, which should be operating with the same group of Holiday Resort Hotel sauna? It is located about 100m down the YinBinLu after going through the tunnel. I will go next week and report later.
BTW, anyone golf in ZH??? We could certainly hook up for a round & then go for the extra holes. That's usually my gang's routine in ZH. Please PM me if interested to join.
[QUOTE=John Siron]I've been to a few in ZH but as I mentioned earlier in my other postings, the "Holiday Resort Hotel" has the best sauna.[/QUOTE]
I dropped by the place and no extra services were offered. It is nicely renovated though.
[QUOTE=Chin1970]Totally agreed. Besides Holiday Resort hotel, I've been to the Richmond Hill, Holiday Inn and Harbour View hotel sauna. But overall, Holiday Resort has the best quality in terms of hardware, girls & services.
Anyone been to Qun Hao Sauna, which should be operating with the same group of Holiday Resort Hotel sauna? It is located about 100m down the YinBinLu after going through the tunnel. I will go next week and report later.
BTW, anyone golf in ZH??? We could certainly hook up for a round & then go for the extra holes. That's usually my gang's routine in ZH. Please PM me if interested to join.[/QUOTE]
We walked the alleys and found a BBS with that I (and I think Johnny too) thought to be the one with the best quality. Walking north(away from customs) toward the end of Lian Hua Lu, make a right turn on the street where the green umbrella stands end. I believe it is the second alley on the right. With the sheer number and quality on Lian Hua Lu, you don't need to stray too far.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Reader123,
I can sympathize with you. I thought it was my age and lack of physcial stamina. Johnny moves like a rocket. Try hunting for BBS with him up and down alleys.
OAH[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Reader123,
I can sympathize with you. I thought it was my age and lack of physcial stamina. Johnny moves like a rocket. Try hunting for BBS with him up and down alleys.
OAH[/QUOTE]
Been with Jonny on a hunt before and I can tell you that it is not you. That boy can really move. He is like a man on a mission. Rtpman and I had to run in order to keep up with him last time we were in SZ with all the guys. Boy, we can't wait until Oct to be back in China again.
Hi you guys,
If you need a guide, pls just let me know.
[QUOTE=Zhuhaiguide]Hi you guys,
If you need a guide, pls just let me know.[/QUOTE]
You sounds like Dragon D of Shanghai thread.
Please move your post to the Classified Ads Thread if you are selling your services.
AG
Just wanted to write a quick report on the general gals of Lian
Hua road. The postings from other members don't truly do justice
to the available quality and I'm posting some "good" quality gals
that I've had. Still working on "really hot" gals, but all the
ones I consider "hot" never consent to photos...still working on
it.
The first set of pics is from a sweet gal, forgot her name already,
and give pretty decent service. She's been scammed a few times and
been bothered by dudes arranging fake meetings at off-Lian Hua hotels
so I actually had to go to Lian Hua road, call her, and then take the
taxi back to my place. Overall, standard set of normal assisted shower
together, some nipple sucking, BBBJ, then CFS. She's open to several
positions and has a nice but not fantastic body. Like a good cup of
coffee on a drizzly morning, she's a nice shot to the system. Standard
Lian Hua road price of 200 RMB ST.
Body: 7
Face: 7
Service: 7
I would recommend her but wouldn't do her again unless I had absolutely
no other options.
Second set of pics is from a strangely laisez faire gal. She's been in
ZH for about 2 weeks, so only will go to local Lian Hua hotels after
arranging with her mamasan. It was annoying because I had to meet both
of them at the bigger McDonalds near Lian Hua road, get "approved" by
the mamasan, and then take taxi with her back to my place. And mamasan
must have called her 8-9 more times before and during the deed. Anyway,
I call this gal laisez faire because after getting back to my place,
she immediately strips, lights a cigarette, and plops herself on my
couch with her legs non-chalantly spread eagled, and watched some TV
program. I laughed, then she laughed and I stripped and joined her for
about 5 minutes of TV before we headed to shower. Her body was smoking
hot...huge soft breasts, slim youthful body, and she was confidently
aware of all this. Face was prematurely old in my opinion, maybe she
was working/fucking like crazy back in her hometown in Shannxi province
leading to the smoking and carefree attitude. Overall, service was good,
more enthusiastic than gal #1, but not GFE or closeness at all. Just
some raw fucking. She was open to finish BBBJCIM but whether it was on
purpose or not, at the exact moment my come began to fire out, she took
my cock out of her mouth to cough...so my jizz landed on her neck, ear,
cheeks, and chin as she kept pumping. No flintching or negative reaction
from her either, even some ball licking, ha...then we got up, showered
and I paid her 200 RMB + 50 RMB tip.
Body: 8
Face: 6.5
Service: 8
I would recommend her but and I'd do her again
Have telephone numbers for both if y'all want. Not handy right now, so I'll
add them to the report later. I actually did 2 more this weekend, but their
routine didn't vary much from SOP and I couldn't get pics, so I'll skip details.
For me, these gals are the "average" looking gals on Lian Hua road, and
there are definately better looking ones available. Hope other members do
better looking ones and post to give a more accurate representation of
what's available, since the pics I've seen have made me think, "Are these
guys looking in the same area as me?? I know these Lian Hua girls aren't
all early 30's and look like my ai yi..."
J
Hey Johnny,
It's been a few years since we mongered. I may be planing a trip to the fair in your neck of the woods in October. I hope we can get together and catch up and have some fun. How is OAH doing these days? Sorry I haven't been following the China forum as i am going to Africa on the 19th of July for a month.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Cheers.
Blastoff
Thanks Johnny, they look like really nice girls, and I mean that in all respects, no attitude, just down-to-earth pretty girls!
Well done!
Blastoff,
Contact me anytime. And OAH the Emperor is doing great, probably better
than ever. Ask him about his recent 4-pop night with one particular tight
pussy, large breasted, cutie in DG! Ha ha, not bad for "an old man", not
bad at all...
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Blastoff,
Contact me anytime. And OAH the Emperor is doing great, probably better
than ever. Ask him about his recent 4-pop night with one particular tight
pussy, large breasted, cutie in DG! Ha ha, not bad for "an old man", not
bad at all...
J[/QUOTE]
When I grow up I want to be just like OAH LOL!
Hope to catch up in October.
Take care.
Gentlemen:
Johnny's memory is really failing for such a "young man". It was a 5 pop evening. I got 2 pops from the duo and another 3 pops from 42D. Albeit, this was over a 12-13 hour period and chemically induced. Vitamin "V" is a godsend straight from heaven.
OAH
[QUOTE=Blastoff]When I grow up I want to be just like OAH LOL!
Hope to catch up in October.
Take care.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Gentlemen:
Johnny's memory is really failing for such a "young man". It was a 5 pop evening. I got 2 pops from the duo and another 3 pops from 42D. Albeit, this was over a 12-13 hour period and chemically induced. Vitamin "V" is a godsend straight from heaven.
OAH[/QUOTE]
Oh, no! Did you need to check into a hospital and get IV fluids? Ha ha...you
are the Emperor!
J
I'll be in zhuhai from 31st August till 4th September via Macau. This will be my virgin trip there. Anyone willing to show me around? Nothing much i can offer in return but a few drinks and mongering tips for those coming to Kuala Lumpur.
[QUOTE=biglauda]I'll be in zhuhai from 31st August till 4th September via Macau. This will be my virgin trip there. Anyone willing to show me around? Nothing much i can offer in return but a few drinks and mongering tips for those coming to Kuala Lumpur.[/QUOTE]Biglauda,
For Zhuhai, I love going to saunas. Generally most of the saunas in ZH offer extra. Notable ones are the Holiday Resort Hotel, which has been mentioned in this forum numerous times. The other one is the Holiday Inn ZH. Both offer high quality girls / services / facilities. Price is also on the high side at $888 full package, comparing to other establishments offering somewhere around $400.
For Macau, you can just pop into any sauna/KTV/streets around casinos, you will find everything you want. For sauna in Macau, my personal favorites are Darling 1, located near the ferry terminal & the vietnamese girls are my favorite there (all 8's & 9's), and 18 Sauna at the Golden Dragon hotel, not far from Darling 1. You've got to experience one of these saunas and you know what you are missing in KL. For KTV, there is a new one opening in Grand Waldo hotel at Cotai (the golden stripe), operating by the China City Night Club from HK.
Chin1970
As a virgin Macau visitor, you'll want to try the overly priced sauna's at least once there. You get international flavors there... from all over the world. You name it, and they'll have it (the ethnicity you want).
For Zhuhai, just stay at the Holiday Resort Hotel and inquire about the sauna at the back of the resort. The sauna is HUGE and has the best looking girls working there from all over China. Make sure you check out the VIP rooms even to just take a look if you don't use it (ask the managers to show you around). The hotel is cheap to stay at too! Also, if you do try out the sauna, make sure you don't shower beforehand in the shower rooms so that the girl does it with you in your own private room.
[QUOTE=biglauda]I'll be in zhuhai from 31st August till 4th September via Macau. This will be my virgin trip there. Anyone willing to show me around? Nothing much i can offer in return but a few drinks and mongering tips for those coming to Kuala Lumpur.[/QUOTE]
These places are springing up all over. This one is in a lane or alley off Yue Hua Road not far from Lian Hua Road. Same deal only HJ available at 70 RMB for 90 minutes no tip expected. I like to go to relax after a full session elsewhere.
Thanks to the bros for info. I'm going with another friend and we intend to stay at min ann or kapok hotel at LHL. Are these 3 star hotels? We have been told that Gong An will seldom raid a 3 stars (and above hotel) especially if a foreigner is staying there. Is it true?
Is there a crackdown there now?
We intend to go for those ST/LT FL gals in LHL and try out a few spas. We don't intend to spend more than RM800 for spas although we might just try the Chang An Good World hotel spa.
My friend told me that RMB200 for ST and RMB600 for LT is the standard rate in LHL. (I will definitely go for threesome if the quality is good and within my budget). As for spa, my friend said a VIP package is around RMB400 for 2 hours. Are there any other place to venture to other than LHL?
Well, any bros wants to join us for ktv. Since only two of us, it's quite difficult to book a ktv room.
Hey biglauda,
Give me a message when you're in town and I'll do my best to show you around. The prices you mentioned are a bit on the high side, but relatively accurate. And don't worry, if you wanted to book a KTV room for yourself, it wouldn't be a problem...they just want your money.
Coming from Malaysia, I don't think you'll be impressed with the Holiday Resort Sauna and it's 800 RMB price. It's an expensive but safe experience for non-Asian mongers in my opinion, and some members also feel that the gals look better there, but that's a personal thing. And it's hella far away from the LHL/Gongbei area.
To give you a comparison, you could go and do the 800 RMB/90 minute Holiday Resort Sauna, or....you could get a real massage for 50 RMB for one hour, then a FS sauna experince for 300/90 minutes, and you'll STILL have enough money for a threesome with TWO young hot things from LHL, then you'll STILL have enough cash left over for a cup of coffee and light meal, and also, your taxi money was covered for this whole experience.....ha ha, now looking at that comparison, it certainly is a tough choice, eh?
J
It shouldn't be a problem booking a KTV with 2 as long as you spend the room minimum(400-500) for a small room. Try to go around 7-8pm, so you can get a good selection of girls.
Chang An Good World is the best of the three places I've tried...YueHai and Popoko. The rooms are decent and you get to pick from a lineup.
[QUOTE=biglauda]Thanks to the bros for info. I'm going with another friend and we intend to stay at min ann or kapok hotel at LHL. Are these 3 star hotels? We have been told that Gong An will seldom raid a 3 stars (and above hotel) especially if a foreigner is staying there. Is it true?
Is there a crackdown there now?
We intend to go for those ST/LT FL gals in LHL and try out a few spas. We don't intend to spend more than RM800 for spas although we might just try the Chang An Good World hotel spa.
My friend told me that RMB200 for ST and RMB600 for LT is the standard rate in LHL. (I will definitely go for threesome if the quality is good and within my budget). As for spa, my friend said a VIP package is around RMB400 for 2 hours. Are there any other place to venture to other than LHL?
Well, any bros wants to join us for ktv. Since only two of us, it's quite difficult to book a ktv room.[/QUOTE]
Spent two evenings in Zhuhai recently. Sitting at the outside bars on Lianhua Lu and watching what was walking past was entertainment in itself.
Tried out two Saunas, one at Paradise Hill Hotel (entrance is to the right of the hotel entrance and if I remember correctly says entertainment centre in English) and the other was in Zhuhai Hotel, five minutes walk away. The Zhuhai hotel one is tucked away in the back of the hotel grounds somewhere. Not a lot to distinguish between the two. Very good service in both and quite GFE like. Room fee was about RMB130 in both cases (shower with the girl in the room) and despite offering RMB200 first I paid both girls RMB300. The one in Paradise Hill said RMB200 would do if I went back to see her again the next day. Was in the room for 90 minutes on both occasions.
Cheers
Mianbao.
I took the opportunity for a detour to Zhuhai last week and visited Jiāotōng Dàshà Sāngná ( 交通大廈桑拿 ) again. I requested the RMB 288 VIP room, was shown to my room and picked a tall and pretty girl named Ah Sien (number 98) from the small parade. Body scrub in the shower area was much the same as I have previously experienced. She preferred everything covered, which I respect, so we moved to the bedroom for the main fun. She gave quite a long but fairly standard CBJ before proceeding to cowgirl then the famous Thai squat, one of my favourite positions. I must say that she displayed impressive enthusiasm and leg muscle endurance for this position and kept it up for much longer than I expected. After a variety of positions, she finished me off in an alternating reverse cowgirl and reverse Thai squat, pumping me thoroughly until I could twitch no more! She then washed me off in the shower area and used the spare time to give me an amateur but relaxing massage. Ah Sien is a sweet girl and, although she was very standard in her service, was enthusiastic and tried hard to please.
She reluctantly allowed me to snap a few pics during our session, so here thay are for your viewing pleasure.
On a side note, earlier in the day I wandered around some of the little alleys near Lian Hua Lu looking for a quick and nasty HJ or BJ massage. Every BBS I checked wanted RMB 300 and wouldn't budge. I have read here about RMB 100 BBS places and I am wondering what I was doing wrong. Does the RMB 300 entry fee automatically include FS and I should learn to describe in Chinese that I only want HJ or BJ?
[QUOTE=Marcusau]n a side note, earlier in the day I wandered around some of the little alleys near Lian Hua Lu looking for a quick and nasty HJ or BJ massage. Every BBS I checked wanted RMB 300 and wouldn't budge. I have read here about RMB 100 BBS places and I am wondering what I was doing wrong. Does the RMB 300 entry fee automatically include FS and I should learn to describe in Chinese that I only want HJ or BJ?[/QUOTE]
At the Fujian massage place at the end of the alley you can certainly got an HJ and nothing else for 70RMB.
I usually just ask for a massage at a BBS and negotiate in the room (cubicle) with the girl. If you just want HJ, they are willing to negotiate as otherwise they will miss out on anything. I don't think they get anything from the massage fee.
[QUOTE]Also, on Lotus Road I know the price is 200 RMB standard, so if I see a gal I like, then I'll zero in on her, take her back to my place. [/QUOTE]
Sorry folks, but 200 for "STREET" is no where standard in Zhuhai. Try 50-100. For 200 RMB you could already get a SAUNA Girl including room and complete Sauna-Treatment.
[QUOTE=Chin1970]For Zhuhai, I love going to saunas. Price is also on the high side at $888 full package, comparing to other establishments offering somewhere around $400.[/QUOTE]
Sorry if I sound cocky, I just don't want newcomers to overpay.
Normal Sauna in Zhuhai is 250 RMB, including full package of Sauna, doing it, and body treatment. Better places are 400-500, but that's the top.
I have to admit that I don't know about the 888 package of Holiday Inn, may be true, but please consider these just mentioned prices when you go to enjoy Sauna in Zhuhai.
[QUOTE]At the Fujian massage place at the end of the alley you can certainly got an HJ and nothing else for 70RMB
[/QUOTE]
Also wrong, they charge 35 RMB for one hour massage including HJ. They try to charge non-locals extra for the HJ but that is not necessary. Before you go in, ask if it's included.
You may say: GEY DO ZEEN AR? (How much)
SUM SUP M YOU MOU DUR FEE GEE? (35 includes HJ ?)
[QUOTE=Marcusau]I took the opportunity for a detour to Zhuhai last week and visited Ji?ot?ng Dàshà S?ngná ( ?????? ) ...[/QUOTE]Your report is very nice.
Do you have more pictures of Ah Sien?
Is her face nice or not?
I M flying into Macau from PI and I like to go to Zhuhai from Macau Airport.
Has anyone traveled this route?
I have heard some where that this is possible. I read this on the net.
"You can take free shuttle bus from Macau International Airport to Zhuhai Airport. And from Zhuhai Airport, you can go by shuttle bus to the downtown city."
If anyone has more details, websites I would appreciate.
Not a new comer here. Been playing for 4 years in China. I hate it when someone over pays also cause it ruins the market. My pictures speak for themselves: look at the quality of the girl and the room... and the level of service from both the girls and the staff.
I agree, 888 is the standard charge which may be considered expensive to some people. If you know them, they'll lower the price to about 800 and/or upgrade you to a 100 sq metre room for free but that's for special people that go there regularly. 100 sq metre places have both bathtubs, showers, and a giant bed. Standard rooms there are about 50 sq metres.
I would never pay that much in Shanghai as the standard sauna rate in Shanghai is 500-700 rmb. BUT... the quality in the Shanghai saunas do not compare to the Holiday Resort Hotel. The HRH quality of girls are similar to Macau (A++++). Someone mentioned the Holiday Resort Inn but I'm not familiar with that place... so don't get them mixed up... I'm talking about the Holiday Resort HOTEL.
Lianhua Road is considered the low end in Zhuhai. The only reason to go to Lianhua road is to have coffee and get harassed by the street walkers (which is fun also!), but I would never follow one back to their room or bring them back.
One thing a lot of players on this board forget... this is still China. That means what you do is illegal. Wouldn't it be safer to go to a place that you know is 100% safe and is probably backed by the PSB since it has been around so long?
[QUOTE=peterhk]Sorry if I sound cocky, I just don't want newcomers to overpay.
Normal Sauna in Zhuhai is 250 RMB, including full package of Sauna, doing it, and body treatment. Better places are 400-500, but that's the top.
I have to admit that I don't know about the 888 package of Holiday Inn, may be true, but please consider these just mentioned prices when you go to enjoy Sauna in Zhuhai.
Also wrong, they charge 35 RMB for one hour massage including HJ. They try to charge non-locals extra for the HJ but that is not necessary. Before you go in, ask if it's included.
You may say: GEY DO ZEEN AR? (How much)
SUM SUP M YOU MOU DUR FEE GEE? (35 includes HJ ?)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Member #1210]I M flying into Macau from PI and I like to go to Zhuhai from Macau Airport.
Has anyone traveled this route?
I have heard some where that this is possible. I read this on the net.
"You can take free shuttle bus from Macau International Airport to Zhuhai Airport. And from Zhuhai Airport, you can go by shuttle bus to the downtown city."
If anyone has more details, websites I would appreciate.[/QUOTE]You can take a 10 minute Cab ride to the border or take the bus to the border for 3 patacas.I do this all the time,Remember Macau Airport is only about 5KM from the China Border.There is NO free shuttle bus to Zhuhai airport since that is about 50KM from Downtown Zhuhai.But there is a PAY shuttle Bus from Zhuhai Airport to Downtown (gongbei) Cheers
Been away for a long weekend in HK and then come back to some ZH postings!!
Great! Some interesting information from others and I'd like to give my thoughts:
Member 1210, I'd like to add some details to Cebu Local's post about Macau-Zhuhai.
Macau is geographically pretty small, I had a taxi driver drive from the southernmost
tip (Cheoc Van Beach) to the northernmost tip (Zhuhai boarder) in 15 minutes on a
Monday morning with no traffic. The airport is about half this distance and will
normally take about 15 minutes on a regular day. CL, I thought the bus (30 minutes)
to Zhuhai boarder was 5 patacas? Anyway, once you cross the Macau/Zhuhai boarder,
you are basically in downtown (Gongbei). Great food, gals, shopping. There are other
places in town, but this is the commercial and pussy center of town.
Also, the ZH Airport (30-40 minute drive) is not a popular option to fly out of and
the company I work for sends everyone to fly out of Guangzhou or Shenzhen every time
because air ticket prices in ZH are 20-40% more expensive for the same flight out of
GZ/SZ.
I agree with John Siron that 888 RMB is the standard charge for the Holiday Resort
Hotel and it is a safe, clean place to have a sauna experience for those who don't mind
paying that type of price. I'd say a place for older, wealthier HK, Taiwanese, and
foreigner clients. The "quality" of girls and "level of service" will vary in opinion from
person to person, for example I agree HRH girls look better/service better than low-end
sauna girls but I don't think the quality of HRH is better than other high-end, lower-
priced saunas in Zhuhai. And CP's saunas are easily superior. Also, I don't think the girls
in Macau are worth the 1500-2000 RMB either, especially the Russians.
For peterhk, if you can get a Lian Hua Road girl for 50 RMB...hell, if you can get her
for 100 RMB, I will pay for your ST! I have never heard of anyone, local or foreigner,
pay less than 200 RMB, ever. I've spoken to mamasans, motorcycle drivers, taxi drivers,
and numerous SWs and I am almost definite the price is 200 RMB. I do wish the price
was 50-100, but on Lian Hua Road, it definitely is not. The park area near Year 2000
Hotel is a different story, and those girls ARE 50-100 RMB ST, but quality is night
and day compared to LHR.
Marcusau, when you searched around the little alleys, what did you ask for? HJ/BJ
massage directly? Also, are you a foreigner? Even though I look Chinese, because I
used Cantonese to discuss with them, I got a price of 150 RMB and then I later heard
price was 100 RMB when some local-looking guy speaking Mandarin went to ask as
I was walking away. And keep in mind that 300 RMB is the LT price for a ZH BBS girl.
Hope this helps and glad that there is more activity on the ZH board.
J
[QUOTE=Member #1210]I M flying into Macau from PI and I like to go to Zhuhai from Macau Airport.
Has anyone traveled this route?
I have heard some where that this is possible. I read this on the net.
"You can take free shuttle bus from Macau International Airport to Zhuhai Airport. And from Zhuhai Airport, you can go by shuttle bus to the downtown city."
If anyone has more details, websites I would appreciate.[/QUOTE]
to member 1210
cebu local is correct this is a longer way ,It is better to fly to macau int airport first , Tiger air have cheap fare from clark air base at Angeles city
to macau under $45.00 usd one way, Air fare from Manila to macau or china
cost a lot more .
fast eddie 48
Sorry I said 3 Patacas because thats the cost before I paid in Downtown before,It is 5 Patacas I stand corrected,Sorry I rarely use the bus
[quote=Johnnykon666]Also, the ZH Airport (30-40 minute drive) is not a popular option to fly out of and the company I work for sends everyone to fly out of Guangzhou or Shenzhen every time because air ticket prices in ZH are 20-40% more expensive for the same flight out of
GZ/SZ.[/quote]If you can live with 1 flight per day, then you can go from Zhuhai to several Chinese Cities by spring air. In Shanghai they even fly into Hongqiao Airport which is way more convenient than Pudong.
[url]http://www.china-sss.com[/url]
They sometimes have flights from Shanghai to Zhuhai for 300 RMB. But the English version of their booking system needs chinese input of the destination, and the real bargains are not always visible, it seems.
By the way, Macau is so small, that you can walk from Lian Hua Lu to the Ferry Terminal to Hong Kong in less than 1 hour (Waiting time at the border needs to be added of course)
Thanks a lot to all of you for your help with my last post (Macau to Zhu Hai).
May I have a few names of Budget hotels (with address and tel#s if possible) for my advanture in Zhu Hai. Ofcourse only the hotels which are girl friendly.
Thanks guys.
[QUOTE=Member #1210]Thanks a lot to all of you for your help with my last post (Macau to Zhu Hai).
May I have a few names of Budget hotels (with address and tel#s if possible) for my advanture in Zhu Hai. Ofcourse only the hotels which are girl friendly.
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]
to member # 1210
There are many 2-3 star hotel near the gonbei border you can get for around
200 rmb a night , There is a travel service desk at the bus station down stair
at the border offer 20 % discounts.
fast eddie 48
I agree about using Spring Airlines. I've flown them before also, but landing into Hongqiao Airport is not convenient at all if you need to take a taxi. Usual wait time for a taxi at HQ airport in Shanghai is over 1-1.5 hours. You can usually get a car at the Pudong Airport within 5 minutes of coming out.
Also, I believe Spring Airlines only uses 3 airplanes so if there is a problem with one of them, you are guaranteed to be delayed. This has happened to me before flying out of Shanghai to Zhuhai. We were delayed 4 hours. But then again... delays are normal with any shitty domestic airline in China.
[QUOTE=Tiger 1]If you can live with 1 flight per day, then you can go from Zhuhai to several Chinese Cities by spring air. In Shanghai they even fly into Hongqiao Airport which is way more convenient than Pudong.
[url]http://www.china-sss.com[/url]
They sometimes have flights from Shanghai to Zhuhai for 300 RMB. But the English version of their booking system needs chinese input of the destination, and the real bargains are not always visible, it seems.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=John Siron]I agree about using Spring Airlines. I've flown them before also, but landing into Hongqiao Airport is not convenient at all if you need to take a taxi. Usual wait time for a taxi at HQ airport in Shanghai is over 1-1.5 hours. You can usually get a car at the Pudong Airport within 5 minutes of coming out.
Also, I believe Spring Airlines only uses 3 airplanes so if there is a problem with one of them, you are guaranteed to be delayed. This has happened to me before flying out of Shanghai to Zhuhai. We were delayed 4 hours. But then again... delays are normal with any shitty domestic airline in China.[/QUOTE]It doesn't need a shitty airline to get delayed in China. I just don't like the one flight a day situation. At worst, like it has happened in Hong Kong a woman got stuck in the Taifun the day before yesterday, with a one flight a week carrier. She is from Sri Lanka, has no money for a Hotel and the airline doesn't give a sh*t. because bad weather is not their fault. (First page of SMCP in Hong Kong yesterday, "the worst chaos ever in HK new airport")
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Sorry I said 3 Patacas because thats the cost before I paid in Downtown before,It is 5 Patacas I stand corrected,Sorry I rarely use the bus[/QUOTE]
AP1 (Airport Bus Line) is MOP 3,30 plus MOP 3 for each piece of luggage over a certain size according to signs inside the bus. Not sure how strictly this is enforced though. Make sure you have exact amount in coins, no change will be given. AP1 is a bit of a "milk train" and it will take a while. If you don't have the time to spare grabbing a taxi might be a better option.
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]AP1 (Airport Bus Line) is MOP 3,30 plus MOP 3 for each piece of luggage over a certain size according to signs on the bus. Not sure how strictly this is enforced though. Make sure you have exact amount in coins, no refunds are given. AP1 is a bit of a "milk train" and it will take a while. If you don't have time the spare a taxi might be a better option.[/QUOTE]
I believe in China, Zhuhai, there is no charge for luggages for taxis. In Macau and HK taxis, there is a 3HKD or 3.??MOP fee for each luggage. I once had a fight, well small agreement, over a small hand bag in Macau. The hand bag was a little smaller than a "carry on" for airlines. He wanted 3 HKD extra for the bag. ( 40 cents US )
[QUOTE=Weelock]I believe in China, Zhuhai, there is no charge for luggages for taxis. In Macau and HK taxis, there is a 3HKD or 3.??MOP fee for each luggage. I once had a fight, well small agreement, over a small hand bag in Macau. The hand bag was a little smaller than a "carry on" for airlines. He wanted 3 HKD extra for the bag.[/QUOTE]
If you put it in the back you have to pay. If you carry it with you you don't. And in HK the charge is 5HK$ for piece of luggage or each animal or bird. (It reads like this, believe me). Whereas passengers are free. No charge for oevrweight.
Nowadays in Hong Kong they waive this charge very often. Especially on longer rides.
[QUOTE=Tiger 1]If you put it in the back you have to pay. If you carry it with you you don't. And in HK the charge is 5HK$ for piece of luggage or each animal or bird. (It reads like this, believe me). Whereas passengers are free. No charge for oevrweight.
Nowadays in Hong Kong they waive this charge very often. Especially on longer rides.[/QUOTE]
When you said "the back", I'm assuming the trunk. So if I have luggages that's any size, and I put them in the passenger seat next to me, there shouldn't be a change?
I think you are right about 5HK$ in HK. Sorry for posting the error. Ithought the rates were the same for both HK and Macau. In Macau it's 3HK$ for each bag, unless they raised the rates recently. I'm 99% sure because I was changed this rate a few times. Anyway, I alway have a hard time trusting taxis anywhere in the world including the USA. Sorry I know this should be posted in Macau thread.
Additional surchanges to watch out for taxis:
between Taipa and Coloane 2.00
between Macau and Coloane 5.00
What do you mean by, "Whereas passengers are free".
Thanks.....
[QUOTE=Weelock]When you said "the back", I'm assuming the trunk. So if I have luggages that's any size, and I put them in the passage seat next to me, there shouldn't be a change?[/quote]You are right, I mean the trunk. Just didn't find the word.
There you pay for every piece no matter of the size if the driver insists on it.
Whereas what you carry ,must be carry-on size. They say small pieces of luggage, whatever that means. But it can be more than one.
[quote]I think you are right about 5HK$ in HK. Sorry for posting the error. Ithought the rates were the same for both HK and Macau. In Macau it's 3HK$ for each bag, unless they raised the rates recently. I'm 99% sure because I was changed this rate a few times. I alway have a hard time trusting taxis anywhere in the world including the USA. Sorry I know this should be posted in Macau thread.[/quote]It is 5 HK$ in Hong Kong and 3 in Macau
[quote]Additional surchanges to watch out for taxis:
between Taipa and Coloane 2.00
between Macau and Coloane 5.00
What do you mean by, "Whereas passengers are free".
Thanks.....[/QUOTE]I mean that you can be 4 (I think even 5, they squeeze 2 in the front) passengers in a taxi, but as soon as you carry a bird you are charged. I will post a link in the Macau Section. Not much written there anyway.
[QUOTE=Wei Ni]Your report is very nice.
Do you have more pictures of Ah Sien?
Is her face nice or not?[/QUOTE]
Sorry, that's all the pics I took. She does have a pretty face, is very sweet but not the most competent (experienced) girl I've had in China.
I guess nobody is coming to Zhuhai, nobody's having any experiences worth
posting, or simply nobody cares to post. I'm assuming the latter...
Anyway, been regularly doing some regular contacts and have been introduced
to several fresh new gals by these regular contacts. Nothing special and
service has been SOP but on the good side and regular price of 200 ST. I've
attached a couple of pics of the latest one I did. She was pretty good and
had an interesting twist in her service routine: after giving the normal nipple
lick and (great) BBBJ, she laid out on top of me and I was worried she was
just going to stick my cock in her bareback, but she just laid on top of me and
kind of squirmed a bit then kissed me on the cheek and gave a quick peck
on the lips then got off of me, put on the condom, and we fucked like animals.
It was actually nice to feel her whole body on me in a calm quiet moment,
but mostly it was an odd and unexpected twist. Her name is Xiao Xue or
something like that from way north in Helongjiang. Don't have her number
handy so PM me if you want it. She's about 5'3, 100lbs, good 34C or 32C
breasts, nice body. Face=6.5, body=8, service=7.5
Also interesting experience with yet another referral, this time it was a referral
of a referral, ha ha...she was described as older and since I was known as
a pretty laid-back guy who accepted most girls as long as they were nice and
service was good, they sent her over with lot of BS recommendations. She
ended up looking like a sexy MILF; great shape and some meat on her bones
but not fat, nice long black hair framing a warm face, and great pair of 34C or
34D sized breasts. She was pretty warm and touchy and I'm assuming she
doesn't get lots of work. She was complaining about the lack of ways for her
to earn money, but more in a joking way so it wasn't too naggingly annoying.
After we got in the shower, I noticed a fair amount of stretch marks so she's
had one, if not more, children. I wasn't sure what to expect from this point.
After getting on the bed, she was very cuddly and gave a reasonable and
enthusiastic GFE with DFK, soft slow body kissing, and great use of her
fingernails on my cock, balls, and ass. But she wouldn't give a BBBJ and seemed
hesitant to even give a CBJ. Hmmm...didn't argue too much since I could tell
it would spoil the mood so I put the cap on and fucked in several positions.
I don't know if it was the disappointment of no BJ or what, but it took forever
to finish up and come. She seemed to enjoy it and I had to tell her to tone
down the fake/real moans because I'm sure my neighbors were already thinking,
"Damn, that boy at it again??" She was also surprisingly tight. She offered LT
for 300 but I just wasn't into her BJ-less service and decided to save the
cash for a cute, young thing ready to BBBJ. Fucking her is kind of like having
sex with your wife if she tried to stay in shape, did kegal exercises to tighten
her pussy, and continued to refuse BJs....also I just realized I don't even know
her damn name, I just kept calling her "you" or "hey, there" in Chinese...ha ha...
PM me and I scrounge up the number. No pics of this one but she's about 5'6,
30-ish, big breasts, decent shaped body, but stretch marks from a baby.
Face=7, body=4-7 (depends on how much stretch marks affect you), service=7
Also, I'll be having a sauna "shoot-out" in the next couple of weeks, just for
my own entertainment, and so far, here is the list of saunas I've done and
my ranking based on overall service, girl's attractiveness, sauna facilities,
and price (1 is best, 8 is worst):
8. Yindo Hotel Sauna (forgot who posted a fantastic report on this place but
couldn't be further from my experience...very mediocre girls, facilities, and
service at a cost of about 600 RMB...you don't feel satisfied, you don't feel
truly ripped off, just hugely disappointed...)
7. Communications Hotel Sauna (mediocre girls, facilities, and service at great prices)
6. Old Chang An Suana (good girls, facilities, and service at OK prices)
5. Forgot the name, but the sauna directly northwest of the Gongbei boarder crossing,
has two hearts in the neon sign (decent girls, facilities, and service at OK prices)
4. Tai-"something" sauna directly west of the Gongbei boarder crossing, next to the
large Thai restaurant (good girls, facilities, and service at OK prices)
3. Bu Bu Gao Sauna (decent girls, facilities, and service at OK prices)
2. Da Ming Yuan Sauna (good girls, facilities, and service at great prices)
1. New Chang An Suana (good girls, facilities, and service at higher prices)
Hope others who have had a chance to sample ZH saunas can chime in.
J
Johnny
I will be back in September with the better weather.Due to the typhoons I have stopped my tour groups until early september.See you then CL out
Johnnykon666,
Thanks so much for all the info that you have provided on this location. I have a few basic questions that I didn't get a complete sense of from reading many of the posts. If you can fill in the blanks I would be grateful.
A friend and I were planning on doing a week split between Macau and Hong Kong, but after reading about Zhuhai we are strongly considering changing that to a split between Macau and Zhuhai. The place sounds like a lot of fun and neither of us have ventured into the gigantic realm of China and are perhaps a bit intimidated and certainly not very knowledgable.
First and I guess most important - just how possible is it for us to do the Lian Hua Road scene, the saunas and the KTVs with nary a word of Cantonese or Mandarin between us. In particular we are attracted to the reports on the street walkers and wonder how easy it is to negotiate and ask them to go with us thru sign language as I assume they don't speak English.
Second - do you have any recommendations for mid-priced hotels in the Lian Hua area in which inviting these girls back is not an issue.
Third - I have gotten the feeling that the 3 day visa pass is a fairly simple procedure - is this something that is done right at the border as you pass thru or do you have to do it in advance.
And I think that is about all - pretty basic as I said - hope to be there this coming weekend if all works out. Thanks to anyone for answering.
New World Chang An was the only place that offered a line up. Did any of the other places offer it?
Hey DRRonin,
Good to hear you'll be coming to the unhyped awesomeness of Zhuhai...I've
answered your questions as best as I can in CAPS below:
******************
Johnnykon666,
Thanks so much for all the info that you have provided on this location. I have a few basic questions that I didn't get a complete sense of from reading many of the posts. If you can fill in the blanks I would be grateful.
A friend and I were planning on doing a week split between Macau and Hong Kong, but after reading about Zhuhai we are strongly considering changing that to a split between Macau and Zhuhai. The place sounds like a lot of fun and neither of us have ventured into the gigantic realm of China and are perhaps a bit intimidated and certainly not very knowledgable.
^^^ CHINA OFFERS UNBEATABLE DEALS ON FOOD, HOTEL, AND PARTICULARLY
PUSSY WHEN COMPARED TO HONG KONG/MACAU
First and I guess most important - just how possible is it for us to do the Lian Hua Road scene, the saunas and the KTVs with nary a word of Cantonese or Mandarin between us. In particular we are attracted to the reports on the street walkers and wonder how easy it is to negotiate and ask them to go with us thru sign language as I assume they don't speak English.
^^^ IT VERY POSSIBLE. I AM WILLING TO BE YOU COULD FUCK YOUR BRAINS
OUT IN ZHUHAI SPEAKING ONLY TWO WORDS, "SEX" AND "SAUNA", THE FIRST
FOR USE ON LIAN HUA ROAD AND THE LATTER (PERHAPS IN COMBINATION
WITH SEX) IN THE MASSAGE AND SAUNA PLACES. REMEMBER THAT THERE IS
NO BEATING AROUND THE BUSH WITH LIAN HUA ROAD GIRLS, THEY ARE
OFFERING THEMSELVES FOR SEX, NOT MASSAGES/HJS/DINNER/DRINKS/OTHER BS, SO NEGOTIATIONS OF PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 99% OF THE
TIME, "SAUNA" MEANS ENJOYING SOME STEAM ROOMS AND HOT TUB ACTION
(OPTIONAL) BEFORE FUCKING A SAUANA GIRL IN A PRIVATE ROOM, AND THIS
IS AGAIN STRAIGHTFORWARD, YOU'RE NOT DROPPING HINTS TO THE MASSAGE
GIRL OR TRYING TO ENTICE HER TO GIVE YOU A RUSHED FUCK. SHE IS READY
AND EXPECTING TO FUCK YOU THE MINUTE YOU WALK INTO THE MASSAGE
PLACE AND ASK FOR "SAUNA".
Second - do you have any recommendations for mid-priced hotels in the Lian Hua area in which inviting these girls back is not an issue.
^^^ I WANT TO SAY THAT YOU'LL HAVE A PROBLEM FINDING A HOTEL
THAT ACTUALLY DOESN'T LET GIRLS IN, HA HA...YOU CAN BASICALLY BE
ASSURED THAT EVERY HOTEL IN ZHUHAI IS GIRLFRIENDLY. A FEW OF THE
HIGHER CLASS HOTELS MIGHT ASK THE GIRL TO REGISTER, BUT IT IS FOR
YOUR PROTECTION AND THEY WON'T STOP HER FROM GOING WITH YOU TO
HER ROOM. IF YOU ARE STILL NERVOUS FOR SOME REASON, THERE ARE ABOUT
10 SHORTIME AND REGULAR HOTELS LOCATED DIRECTLY ON LIAN HUA ROAD
THAT OFFER NO HASSELS WHATSOEVER. FAVORITE HOTELS FOR MONGERS
INCLUDE THE YUE HAI HOTEL, CHANG AN HOTEL, AND GUO TAI HOTEL, ALL
OF WHICH ARE WITHIN 5 MINUTE WALKS OF LIAN HUA ROAD.
Third - I have gotten the feeling that the 3 day visa pass is a fairly simple procedure - is this something that is done right at the border as you pass thru or do you have to do it in advance.
IT'S ACTUALLY A 5 DAY PASS AND TAKES ABOUT 5-10 MINUTES AT THE
CHINA BORDER. IT'S NOT AVAILABLE TO USA AND UK CITIZENS SO IF YOU
ARE, YOU BETTER APPLY FOR A TOURIST VISA IN HK WHICH CAN BE HAD IN
AS LITTLE AS 5 HOURS (WITH AN EXPENSIVE RUSH CHARGE) OR PRETTY
CHEAP IF YOU APPLY FOR IT 2 DAYS IN ADVANCE. BEST TO APPLY A FEW
DAYS IN ADVANCE THEN ENJOY HK AND/OR MACAU, THEN PICK UP THE VISA
AND HEAD OVER TO ZHUHAI THEN DONGGUAN IF YOU HAVE TIME.
And I think that is about all - pretty basic as I said - hope to be there this coming weekend if all works out. Thanks to anyone for answering.
******************
CONTACT ME IF YOU DO COME AND I'LL SHOW YOU AROUND.
J
[QUOTE=Reader123]New World Chang An was the only place that offered a line up. Did any of the other places offer it?[/QUOTE]
Every place offered a lineup, with New World and DMY having the most gals
at once (about 6-9 gals at once) and Bu Bu Gao the fewest (about 2-3 gals
at once).
I've got my eye on another suana tonight and will report later this week...
J
Thanks so much for the feedback - one follow up question in regards to part of your response. I am an American in fact - you mention getting a visa in HK - but is it not possible to do this in Macau as well as I am not planning to go to HK if I do Macau/Zhuhai. Also - when you mention a rush job being expensive - how expensive would that be?
Thanks again for all the info - hope to make it unless this visa thing gets in the way.
[QUOTE=DRRonin]Thanks so much for the feedback - one follow up question in regards to part of your response. I am an American in fact - you mention getting a visa in HK - but is it not possible to do this in Macau as well as I am not planning to go to HK if I do Macau/Zhuhai. Also - when you mention a rush job being expensive - how expensive would that be?
Thanks again for all the info - hope to make it unless this visa thing gets in the way.[/QUOTE]
Oh, George Bush loves making things tougher and more expensive for
Americans overseas, ha ha...anyway, it was about 1 year ago I last applied,
I got a rush tourist visa for 1000-1200 HKD (I totally forgot the price, some
members familiar with HK visas, help me out) where I handed in my passport
and a picture at 11am and I got the passport with visa back at 5pm. If you
wait 2 days then it's only about 400 HKD I think. I'm sure the same type of
deal is available in Macau, but I somehow doubt the service can be as
efficient or fast as in HK. From HK to Macau is only a 145 HKD/1 hour ferry
ride anyway. Also, it's usually more expensive to buy a flight that lands in
Macau compared to Hong Kong, I think.
J
[QUOTE=DRRonin]I am an American in fact - you mention getting a visa in HK - but is it not possible to do this in Macau as well as I am not planning to go to HK if I do Macau/Zhuhai. Also - when you mention a rush job being expensive - how expensive would that be?[/QUOTE]Rather than worrying about a rush application and paying extra for it, you can simply apply for a visa at any Chinese Embassy or consulate. They are in various cities in the US, and in most countries. It usually takes 1-3 days. The standard is a one-entry visa, meaning exactly what it sounds like. Other options include 6 months, one year, two year; all of which are multi-entry. If you have any intention of going in-and-out (no pun intended), you should opt for the latter.
Separately, if time allows, I will try to be in Zhuhai next Tuesday (22nd). If anyone is interested in joining for some mongering activities, please PM me.
Cheers DRRonin and everyone.
-M
Johnny, you have succeedded to lure me to your place, I might give a try at Zhuhai, and leave for a while my usual playgrounds in south-west China. All the posts here sound so full of promise... Is end october a good period ?
The thing I don't like in Guangdong is eating. I may surprise you this province is considered as the food heaven by Chinese and other people, but I find Cantonese food boring and expansive. I always have great difficuties to eat in Canton, Shenzhen or Hong-Kong. Unless you spend 300 Y, I find it difficult to have a good and complete Chinese meal in such cities. Anywhere else in China, you can have a good and varied two or three of 2 or 3 course meal for 40 to 70 Y. Is that the same in Zhuhai, and can you advise some good non cantonese cheap restaurants ?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Erik]Johnny, you have succeedded to lure me to your place, I might give a try at Zhuhai, and leave for a while my usual playgrounds in south-west China. All the posts here sound so full of promise... Is end october a good period ?
The thing I don't like in Guangdong is eating. I may surprise you this province is considered as the food heaven by Chinese and other people, but I find Cantonese food boring and expansive. I always have great difficuties to eat in Canton, Shenzhen or Hong-Kong. Unless you spend 300 Y, I find it difficult to have a good and complete Chinese meal in such cities. Anywhere else in China, you can have a good and varied two or three of 2 or 3 course meal for 40 to 70 Y. Is that the same in Zhuhai, and can you advise some good non cantonese cheap restaurants ?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Chang Thong Restaurant on 87-97 Shuiwan Lu dishes from 25 RMB Thai Food.Indian Restaurant not South Asian but American Indian Theme waitresses dressed like squaws Burgers Steaks on Lian an Lu Dishes from 25 RMB.Hope this helps
[QUOTE=Erik]Johnny, you have succeedded to lure me to your place, I might give a try at Zhuhai, and leave for a while my usual playgrounds in south-west China. All the posts here sound so full of promise... Is end october a good period ?
The thing I don't like in Guangdong is eating. I may surprise you this province is considered as the food heaven by Chinese and other people, but I find Cantonese food boring and expansive. I always have great difficuties to eat in Canton, Shenzhen or Hong-Kong. Unless you spend 300 Y, I find it difficult to have a good and complete Chinese meal in such cities. Anywhere else in China, you can have a good and varied two or three of 2 or 3 course meal for 40 to 70 Y. Is that the same in Zhuhai, and can you advise some good non cantonese cheap restaurants ?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Hey Erik,
That sounds great! I've long enjoyed your postings from Southwest China
and would love to explore and show you around the Zhuhai area. The end of
October is a little hectic (the Canton Trade Fair is just wrapping up at the
end of October) and travel and accomidation will be more crowded and
expensive during this time. If you could delay a couple more days into
November then I think the traveling will be easier.
And I was smiling reading your comments about eating in South China...how
about this deal, if you agree to spend 40-70 RMB for a meal, I will will
choose the restaurants and the dishes and guarantee that you will be happy
with the food! South China is still the best place to eat in all of China
in my opinion, not just for the local foods, but because so many people from
all over China come to open authentic hometown restaurants serving excellent
regional foods from everywhere in the country. And no, it's not expensive
either, though like anywhere and for anything, you could spend a lot of money
if you wanted to.
J
Speaking of restaurants, there is a restaurant row on LianHuaLu not far from the GongBei Plaza, near the umbrellas.
There are Szechuan Hotpot place and a Thai place, but try the YUNNAN restaurant, the food is authentically southern and awesome. The cold Tofu is to die for.
Erik, keep holding the fort in the south buddy.
HatTrick
It might be because I go too early in the afternoon..2-4pm.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Every place offered a lineup, with New World and DMY having the most gals
at once (about 6-9 gals at once) and Bu Bu Gao the fewest (about 2-3 gals
at once).
I've got my eye on another suana tonight and will report later this week...
J[/QUOTE]
What a great sauna experience I had yesterday...it's one of those times that
you're not expecting too much and you get too much in return...
Sorry I forgot the name of the place but it's a hotel/office building/sauna
type of structure with two stone dragon-horses on either side of the front entrance.
If you are exiting the Gongbei Boarder Crossing Building, then it will be the
first large building to your left. There's a large Chinese restaurant and it will be to
the right side, although there is another sauna to the left of the restaurant, too.
Sufficiently confused yet? Good, ha ha...
(Reader123 this is the same place we went late that night but the look, feel,
experience, basically everything, was completely different for some reason...and
the robo-lesbian woman wasn't there either)
Got there at 10pm and go up to the 4th floor and ask for a VIP room and it's OK.
Mirrored walls everywhere, decent sized bed, TV, A/C, and decent sized bathroom with
a large leather-bound massage table in the middle. Pretty standard stuff for ZH massage
in my opinion. Lineup of 8 girls come in and my first thought was, "Wow, them are
some tall gals..." with each of them at least 5'6 and up to one that must have been
5'10. Faces were from 5-7.5. Asked for another lineup and 5 more gals came in that
were all more normal sized, about 5'2-5'4 and faces were lower, about 4-6. The male
captain said that's all the gals available because it was busy tonight. So I ended up
choosing #9 who had the best face and body from the first lineup.
After she came back into the room, I realized how truly hot she was. Long, slender
arms and legs, a great bright smile with straight even teeth, and a body that was
ready-made for an Asian J.Crew catalogue. About 5'7, 105 lbs, and 32 B/C breasts that
were a perfect firm-yet-soft handful and topped with irresistable light pink nipples.
I was laughing and joking with her that just looking at her was worth the money...
She helped me to strip and then in the bathroom scrubbed me down with a towel before
washing my back and front with her breasts and it's SOP for sauna but longer and
somewhat more thorough. Laid on the bed and she gets some cups of hot and cold water
from the water cooler in the room. No milks, pop rocks or other liquids, like other
sauanas and I didn't mind. Gave a SOP body licking and "cheater" anal rimming where
she kind of licks around a bit near the hole, but never really attacked it with her
tongue, ha...she was so fucking hot, I didn't mind and continued to body licking on
the front with a CBJ. I didn't push for a BBBJ, again, cause she was so fucking hot
it was enough just looking at her do anything to me. Went from CBJ to more body licking
to FS with a smooth transition and we fucked in several positions till I came. Tight
pussy, soft skin, light moans...couldn't ask for more.
Then we laid down and rested for a bit. She was waiting for me to fuck her again and
there was a second condom on the bed, ready to go. For some reason, I couldn't get going
again, though I took the time to touch and kiss her body. With 20 minutes remaining
from the 90 minutes time limit, I decided to leave. Fuck, I wish I had my camera, but
that type of body is the kind you get hard just thinking about because you've acutally
touched and fucked it and it was as good as you hoped. Will have to go back this week and
take some pics for posterity.
Didn't know how much it cost and was pleasantly surprised when she told me 200 for her
and 80 for the room...280 RMB for 90 minutes from a service-trained angel?? I'll take
that! Paid the gal 200 then 80 at the front desk. Asked for VIP card but they don't have
any more.
Overall:
Face: 7.5
Body: 9.5
Service: 7.5
I'll just refer to this place as "2 elephants sauna" and this has definately jumped to
3rd place, behind DYM and New Chang An.
J
My Sauna Rankings (I hope others can contribute):
____________________________________________
9. Yindo Hotel Sauna
8. Overseas Chinese Hotel Sauna
7. Communications Hotel Sauna
6. Old Chang An Suana
5. sauna directly northwest of the Gongbei boarder crossing, has two hearts
in the neon sign
4. Bu Bu Gao Sauna
3. "2 dragon-horse animals sauna" to the left of the Gongbei boarder crossing
2. Da Ming Yuan Sauna
1. New Chang An Suana
That's it, don't say anymore, I'll be in Zhuhai in november or I am not Erik anymore !
(which it is not my name anyway...)
Thought I would have another sauna report by today but things got somewhat sidetracked and
I ended up not going to a sauna yesterday. It was after 11pm by the time I finished my other
things and I feel that sauna service is usually best if you go sometime from 8pm-10pm.
I gave my semi-regular ZH mamasan a call and she was pretty happy to hear from me and
promised to send me a fresh young gal. They must wear rocket packs or have teleportation
because she got to my place pretty damn quick from the Gongbei area. At first I thought she
was kind of plump, but after getting her clothes off, I realized that she is just kind of
thick and big boned, which is a good thing for me. Great large breasts and cute, fresh faced,
wide eyed sense about her. Xiao Yen is from Dailian, been in ZH a week, and seems like a nice
gal. She's about 5'6, 115 lbs., 34C breasts, and has smooth white skin showing off a sexy, curvy body.
She actually talked for about 15 minutes as we lay in bed and I wasn't sure how to tell her,
"Umm...let's begin." She gave me a brief history of her childhood (nice, boring), how she got
to ZH (to make money), how is business (up and down, no money first day, 1200 RMB second day),
her opinion on double fly "threesome" service (strange yet fun and she doesn't mind), and how
long she plans to stay (about 3-4 weeks then return to Dalian). Finally, she brought up how would
I like my BJ, covered or uncovered and I almost didn't realize what she was talking about. Her
BBBJ was interesting, different than the rapid suck or meticulously trained versions that I am
accustomed to from Chinese gals, but kind of laid her head on my stomach and varied between
sucking and licking for a good 15-20 minutes, gently going at it like someone who really enjoyed
it but wanted to take their time. I almost decided to CIM but ended up not and complimented her
on an interestingly different BJ technique to which she seemed modestly delighted. I gave her a
good body kissing all over and then DATY on her naturally lightly-haired pussy which tasted pretty
fresh and clean. She was going pretty nuts or it, digging her heels into the bedsheets, squeezing
one of my hands, and pulling my hair with the other while softly moaning and sighing. After a
quiet climax I climbed on top missionary style then some sideways then doggie then I guess we both
climaxed in missionary. She seemed to like it and I thought she was tight and enjoyable but nothing
really stands out except her "freshness". I don't think she's had much experience fucking customers
or boyfriends and she seems like she'd be an enthusiastic candidate for sex training.
Overall:
Body-8
Face-7
Service-8
So far, I'm pretty happy with the mamasan's 4 deliveries I've had. Xiao Yen joked that I better call
the mamasan to send Xiao Yen again within a day or two, otherwise, there would be a new batch of girls.
Ha ha...thanks for the tip. Paid her the usual 200 and some taxi money.
PM if you want the mamasan's number.
J
Had time for a late night sauna visit (breaking my own rule that sauna service
is best between 8p-10pm). I walked around to a couple of new places but
apparently they didn't have full service. But it could be me, too, since I'm not
the type of guy that can say "Where are the girls that fuck?" I just basically
take a look at the VIP rooms or ask about "massage packages". After getting
shot down/blocked at three places, I decided to try an old favorite, Da Ming
Yuan. I thought, midnight-ish on a Wednesday night should be OK...but damn,
the place was COMPLETELY FULL. They even had to move me into the normal
hotel rooms above the sauna facilities. The rooms are about double the size
of the VIP sauna room because they are basically a standard 3 star hotel room.
Cost was 168 for room (instead of 138) and girl fee was same at 150.
My girl (#201) was nice and bubbly. About 5'3, a little chubby but not fat,
nice 32B breasts, and the nicest, whitest, blemish-free skin I've seen on a
working girl ever. I think she said she was from Jilin also, but don't remember.
She gave typical sauna service except for two things that stand out: 1) her
rimming technique was very funny because she actually put a condom on her
tongue before the rimming. Add to that her question, "You don't have any
shit coming out of your ass, do you?" and I was laughing uncontrollably
which made her laugh, too. The rimming was terrible with a condomed-tongue.
2) BBBJ must be her specialty as she does it without hesitation and as I was
getting closer and closer to a CIM, she had all these interesting positions, like
holding my legs spread-eagled, throwing my legs over her shoulders and propping
my ass higher, lying on the bed and telling me to face-fuck her missionary
position alternating with a tit-fuck then back to face-fuck. I guess she would
be open to hotel room service but her working hours are 4:30pm - 4:30 am,
which sucks for her. But she said she's had as many as 9 customers in one
day, too, so it's not that bad money-wise, ha ha... 132325122*1
(missing digit: how many quarters are played in a regulation basketball match?)
Overall:
Face-7
Body-6.5
Service-8
Overall, I have to say that it was fun, but not something I considered special
or worth repeating. That made me think I will have to classify saunas in a
different way now, more in tiers because I can't really say one sauna is the
best. So here are the new rankings (also had to change the name of the 2
elephants place to 2 dragon-horse place because I realized it is two mythical
dragon-horse animals outside the hotel not elephants):
My Ongoing Sauna Rankings (I hope others can contribute):
Tier "Sucks" Saunas
________________
-Yindo Hotel Sauna
-Overseas Chinese Hotel Sauna
Tier 2 Saunas
___________
-Communications Hotel Sauna
-Old Chang An Suana
-sauna directly northwest of the Gongbei boarder crossing, has two hearts
in the neon sign
-Bu Bu Gao Sauna
Tier 1 Saunas
___________
-"2 dragon-horse animals sauna" to the left of the Gongbei boarder crossing
-Da Ming Yuan Sauna
-New Chang An Suana
Thanks for your info on saunas.
Please note recently visited the "jin ju" (not sure if name correct) hotel. This is the one that is right next to the GD hotel and on the opposite side of the Good World Hotel. It is set-off from the main street by about 50m.
Anyway, went to the 3rd floor details are as follows;
Room/Sauna Quite good
Girls Line-up of 6 Girls to choose from.
Price : 298 full inclusive of Girl + Room + 90mins service
Service Includes : FS, BBBJ, Table Wash/Shower ! , Massage on Wash Table and Bed, Usual BJ extras (i.e. hot/cold, etc), AR ...
Overall recommend - it is on a par with the Dongguan versions but price very attractive. Girls I would say are slightly lower on looks than DG but service is still good.
Hello. I greatly appreciate with useful posts here.
I am going to visit Zhuhai last week of this month(and this is my first visit).
Then I want to try Da Ming Yuan Sauna and New Chang An (新長安?)Suana. But where are these location ?
As one of my friend recommend Emperor Hotel Sauna which is on north side of tunnel, I will try it too.
Hey Goowest,
Sorry I don't know the exact addresses, but if you say "Da Ming Yuan Sau Na"
phonetically like that, all taxi drivers will know what you mean. And for Chang
An, same thing, "Xin Chang An Sau Na".
I am working on taking pics of all the sauna's front entrance, too.
J
Went "Yesterday disco on" Sat night, oh boy what a busy place! We took a large room. The girls in the line-ups weren't particularly pretty however they were quite young at around 20 year old. we picked several nice looking ones to sit down. at first , we were very happy about our choices as the girl were open and very playful. As the night progress, some of them request to go out to get their dose of drug(K). Apparently, this place is major spot in town for drugs. majority of their clients and hostesses take drug. So finally as night progress, some our girls disappearred due either overdose or fightings due to overdose. But any where girls are young and trendy but you live with uncertainty on what gonna happen afterward.
Went to Da Ming Yuan after mid-night, again this place was packed and need to wait for 20mins to get a room. i must say the quality of girls has gone down a notch to about 4-5 now. but service and cost wise, it is still unbeatable. It cost me 380 only for double action"shuang Fei" for 1 and half hour session. Overall, I feel Zhu Hai is becoming more wild than before.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Sorry I don't know the exact addresses, but if you say "Da Ming Yuan Sau Na"phonetically like that, all taxi drivers will know what you mean. And for Chang An, same thing, "Xin Chang An Sau Na".[/QUOTE]Thanks Johnny,
I will go by Taxi. I found that "Xin Chang An" will be on Jiuzhou Dadao.
Then how much is a room fee and service fee for a girl here?
I found a post that "Da Ming Yuan" is 238/280Rmb, but can not find for "Xin Chang An".
I have heard from my friend that Emperor sauna is 438Rmb. (Pricy but worth to try he said.)
Anyway, I am going to fly to Bangkok tomorrow then fly to Hongkong next week. I am looking forward to visit Zhu Hai!
Stayed at Zobon hotel 1st time. the hotel decoration were trendy and very new. services were quite accomodative and breakfast was very nice. You can get a cheaper contract rate of 470rmb per night by saying you are from lakewood golf course. But what I really to say is that avoid the sauna as it is definitely overpriced. They quoted 1300rmb per session at premise and 980rmb at your hotel room. I opted for the latter and really regret the choice as the service was really mediocre. I know I was sucker but I was too tired to go out. So you guys avoid the place.
[QUOTE=Goowest]Thanks Johnny,
I will go by Taxi. I found that "Xin Chang An" will be on Jiuzhou Dadao.
Then how much is a room fee and service fee for a girl here?
I found a post that "Da Ming Yuan" is 238/280Rmb, but can not find for "Xin Chang An".
I have heard from my friend that Emperor sauna is 438Rmb. (Pricy but worth to try he said.)
Anyway, I am going to fly to Bangkok tomorrow then fly to Hongkong next week. I am looking forward to visit Zhu Hai![/QUOTE]
Hey Goowest,
Sorry, I've got to correct myself, but the Xin Chang An sauna I'm referring to
isn't on Jiuzhou Dadao. It's directly across the street from the Guangdong
Yuehai hotel. I think the English is "Chang An Good World Hotel" or something
like that.
Sorry, my non-native Chinese skills and referring to places that are more
colloquial than specific can cause confusion, that's why I intend to take pics
of every sauna entrance for clarity.
Youngboss,
I agree that the Da Ming Yuan quality seems to be getting lower, but if you're
going at midnight on Saturday, that is the worst time to be judging the overall
talent. Go at about 8-9pm anyday of the week and you'll see the talent looks
about 5-7 still. From 11-1am on Fridays and Saturdays, it is busy as shit. The
girls are happy since they tell me the average gal can get 3-4 customers per
day minimum and they average about 9000-10,000 RMB income per month.
The other funny thing is that if you pay the girl directly, they can get the money
immediately whereas if you pay the front desk, the girl will get their cut at the
end of the month, which is weird. So, they always push me to pay them directly,
but if their service was mediocre, then I would pay the front desk.
Also, if you like Da Ming Yuan's service, the "two dragon-animals sauna" near
the Gongbei boarder offers equally great service, better facilities, and
sometimes better looking gals. I'm going to try it one more time before ranking
it above DMY.
And Yesterday Disco is definately a drug den of choice in Zhuhai. I've found
it much more difficult to talk to and/or fuck a gal if she's on X/Ecstacy.
J
I would add Ju Long (俱龙 Dragon Club) sauna to the tier 1 category. It is located in Tang Jia, 30 minutes out of town but well-worth the trip.
All inclusive services in the standard room is 338. I'm told the VIP room which is only a little more is well worth it.
I rank this place highly because of (1) the line-up, and (2) the services.
(1) You can choose from a line up of 12-15 girls at a time, I would rate them 6-8. There are more girls available here than in most saunas in town.
(2) Services are very extensive (more so than Chang An Da Shi Jie which I also like). They offer kong zhong fei ren and the girls use several kinds of vibrators.
The rest is standard: resting area with TVs, free food and drinks, etc.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Had time for a late night sauna visit (breaking my own rule that sauna service
is best between 8p-10pm). I walked around to a couple of new places but
apparently they didn't have full service. But it could be me, too, since I'm not
the type of guy that can say "Where are the girls that fuck?" I just basically
take a look at the VIP rooms or ask about "massage packages". After getting
shot down/blocked at three places, I decided to try an old favorite, Da Ming
Yuan. I thought, midnight-ish on a Wednesday night should be OK...but damn,
the place was COMPLETELY FULL. They even had to move me into the normal
hotel rooms above the sauna facilities. The rooms are about double the size
of the VIP sauna room because they are basically a standard 3 star hotel room.
Cost was 168 for room (instead of 138) and girl fee was same at 150.
My girl (#201) was nice and bubbly. About 5'3, a little chubby but not fat,
nice 32B breasts, and the nicest, whitest, blemish-free skin I've seen on a
working girl ever. I think she said she was from Jilin also, but don't remember.
She gave typical sauna service except for two things that stand out: 1) her
rimming technique was very funny because she actually put a condom on her
tongue before the rimming. Add to that her question, "You don't have any
shit coming out of your ass, do you?" and I was laughing uncontrollably
which made her laugh, too. The rimming was terrible with a condomed-tongue.
2) BBBJ must be her specialty as she does it without hesitation and as I was
getting closer and closer to a CIM, she had all these interesting positions, like
holding my legs spread-eagled, throwing my legs over her shoulders and propping
my ass higher, lying on the bed and telling me to face-fuck her missionary
position alternating with a tit-fuck then back to face-fuck. I guess she would
be open to hotel room service but her working hours are 4:30pm - 4:30 am,
which sucks for her. But she said she's had as many as 9 customers in one
day, too, so it's not that bad money-wise, ha ha... 132325122*1
(missing digit: how many quarters are played in a regulation basketball match?)
Overall:
Face-7
Body-6.5
Service-8
Overall, I have to say that it was fun, but not something I considered special
or worth repeating. That made me think I will have to classify saunas in a
different way now, more in tiers because I can't really say one sauna is the
best. So here are the new rankings (also had to change the name of the 2
elephants place to 2 dragon-horse place because I realized it is two mythical
dragon-horse animals outside the hotel not elephants):
My Ongoing Sauna Rankings (I hope others can contribute):
Tier "Sucks" Saunas
________________
-Yindo Hotel Sauna
-Overseas Chinese Hotel Sauna
Tier 2 Saunas
___________
-Communications Hotel Sauna
-Old Chang An Suana
-sauna directly northwest of the Gongbei boarder crossing, has two hearts
in the neon sign
-Bu Bu Gao Sauna
Tier 1 Saunas
___________
-"2 dragon-horse animals sauna" to the left of the Gongbei boarder crossing
-Da Ming Yuan Sauna
-New Chang An Suana[/QUOTE]
Figured out from the postings that Chang An Hotel, Zhuhai is good to stay.
Do they accept credit card?
Also, are ATM widely available in Zhuhai?
[quote=rapebill]figured out from the postings that chang an hotel, zhuhai is good to stay.
do they accept credit card?
also, are atm widely available in zhuhai?[/quote]
yes. and yes.
j
[QUOTE=Night Dragon]I would add Ju Long (俱龙 Dragon Club) sauna to the tier 1 category. It is located in Tang Jia, 30 minutes out of town but well-worth the trip.
All inclusive services in the standard room is 338. I'm told the VIP room which is only a little more is well worth it.
I rank this place highly because of (1) the line-up, and (2) the services.
(1) You can choose from a line up of 12-15 girls at a time, I would rate them 6-8. There are more girls available here than in most saunas in town.
(2) Services are very extensive (more so than Chang An Da Shi Jie which I also like). They offer kong zhong fei ren and the girls use several kinds of vibrators.
The rest is standard: resting area with TVs, free food and drinks, etc.[/QUOTE]
Hey Nightdragon,
Thanks for the recommendation. I actually just went to 香江 sauna yesterday
night based on your recommendation long ago. And it was awesome!
A little more expensive than others, 338 RMB inclusive of 90 minutes of sex/service
in a VIP room, but they had red ropes, weird liquids, vibrators, and crazy rimming
techniques. Still doesn't compare exactly with CP's wondrous saunas, but it's
close.
Will write a full report later and I'm definately going to try Night Dragon's
recommendation. Keep them coming!
J
PS. The more saunas I try, the more I realize I need to totally overall my list...
why on earth would you call yourself rapebill?
guess i'll change my name to fuckrapebill
sincerely yours,
fuckrapebill
[quote=rapebill]figured out from the postings that chang an hotel, zhuhai is good to stay.
do they accept credit card?
also, are atm widely available in zhuhai?[/quote]
dear mr bill lee or mr fuckrapebill,
this was rapebill. perhaps because of your complaint or others', the administrator has changed my nick to a number. hopefully, this new nickname is not offensive to any forum member (that's your car number or the last 4 digits of your tel no? oops)
for the sake of clarification, i have chosen the nickname "rapebill" mainly because it is a play on the "kill bill" (it's a movie in case anyone is clueless) and i liked it very much because (1) i like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] fantasties and (2) my real name is william (aka bill). and this is a a forum dedicated to sex, right? do all members here like to use their real name as nicknames? furthermore, i am new to isg and do not know you at all. i have never registered with isg previously and seldom view isg. i only dropped by after googling on zhuhai. in addition, i have used the nick "rapebill" in ********forum without any issue. finally, let me state that i bear no malicious intention towards all bills or williams in this forum. if you still insist that i am trying to give you stick, please consult a shrink.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Hey Nightdragon,
Thanks for the recommendation. I actually just went to 香江 sauna yesterday
night based on your recommendation long ago. And it was awesome!
A little more expensive than others, 338 RMB inclusive of 90 minutes of sex/service
in a VIP room, but they had red ropes, weird liquids, vibrators, and crazy rimming
techniques. Still doesn't compare exactly with CP's wondrous saunas, but it's
close.
Will write a full report later and I'm definately going to try Night Dragon's
recommendation. Keep them coming!
J
PS. The more saunas I try, the more I realize I need to totally overall my list...[/QUOTE]
BTW, I hear that the 3rd floor sauna of Jin Yu hotel (next to Yue Hai, across the street from Chang An Good World) has been renovated and is worth checking out.
thats the one I went to recently, refer my last post.
[quote=bill lee]why on earth would you call yourself rapebill?
guess i'll change my name to fuckrapebill
sincerely yours,
fuckrapebill[/quote]
[quote=rapebill]dear mr bill lee or mr fuckrapebill,
this was rapebill. perhaps because of your complaint or others', the administrator has changed my nick to a number. hopefully, this new nickname is not offensive to any forum member (that's your car number or the last 4 digits of your tel no? oops)
for the sake of clarification, i have chosen the nickname "rapebill" mainly because it is a play on the "kill bill" (it's a movie in case anyone is clueless) and i liked it very much because (1) i like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] fantasties and (2) my real name is william (aka bill). and this is a a forum dedicated to sex, right? do all members here like to use their real name as nicknames? furthermore, i am new to isg and do not know you at all. i have never registered with isg previously and seldom view isg. i only dropped by after googling on zhuhai. in addition, i have used the nick "rapebill" in ********forum without any issue. finally, let me state that i bear no malicious intention towards all bills or williams in this forum. if you still insist that i am trying to give you stick, please consult a shrink.[/quote]
boys boys, be good... don't fight...
bill's comment is meant to be a joke, he laughing on why you want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] him!
rapebil; enjoy your stay here, we are funny but nice people, you are always welcome to post questions after your rtff and cannot find what you are looking for. there is a search function on the top right hand corner of the thread that helps you to do that.
now with the pm system locked for regular member i guess the only way is to ask questions on the board if you can't find the answers.
enjoy zhu hai! the city of sws!
ag
[QUOTE=Night Dragon]BTW, I hear that the 3rd floor sauna of Jin Yu hotel (next to Yue Hai, across the street from Chang An Good World) has been renovated and is worth checking out.[/QUOTE]
Oh shit, that is the "beatdown hotel" that AZN Man and I reported on a few months
ago!! That's why I couldn't find Jin Yu last week...I've mentally blocked out that
hotel as an option for anything and barely even look at it when I pass by...
Well, in the name of pussy, I'll risk it and change my mind, ha ha...
J
i made my first trip to china about two months ago. i really enjoyed. i am going to post a report i wrote on another board where this is little coverage of southern china. so i apologize if this report states the already obvious and has some mistakes. in my trip i spent two nights in zhuhai and then four night is changping. i did this trip with my friend crazier.
in zhuhai, we stayed at the min an hotel. this hotel was extremely convenient for the outdoor bar and street walker action. i loved its location. the price was 200rmb during the week and 220rmb on the weekend. the rooms are small but recently refurbished. the rooms had a decent sized bathroom and free high speed internet. however, there was no room safe and you could lock personal items up behind the reception desk. also, the bed had the hardest mattress i ever slept on. if you got up early enough each room got a 10rmb voucher for use in the adjacent restaurant. the restaurant was quite nice and served decent dim sum.
after my two day stay in zhuhai felt that i had only scratched the surface of what seemed to be a very large p4p scene. i would say that you probably won’t get the ultra top end you get across the border, but the girls seemed a lot fresher and the prices a whole lot better than in macau. i would say my overall holiday experience in zhuhai rated better than my zhuhai girlie action experience. partying in the outdoor bars until late on lian hua lu, eating fantastic cheap cantonese food, awesome shopping, and great regular body and foot massage made for serious good times. the girl action i had was good but paled in comparison to what i experienced in changping.
since i only stayed for two days, i clearly only got a small sample of the available p4p options. so i am not going to attempt a comprehensive description but just limited number of venues i saw. however, note i am not detailing the huge sauna, karaoke, and disco scenes.
the street scene of lian hua lu
the walking street of lian hua lu is a several blocks buzzing with shopping, dining, outdoor drinking, and lots of young cute hookers aggressively trying to get business. the partying and boy meet girl festivities center around the two blocks of small outdoor bars starting past the min an hotel. many girls patrolled up and down this street for hours on end. if you are an unattended asian gentleman the girls would aggressively descend upon you as you entered the “zone.” if you were an unattended western gent i found that as soon as you send even a slight signal of interest the girls will be on you as well. the girls would try real hard to close a deal and if you didn’t buy she always slipped you her phone number. if you call a girl, there is a very good chance she will be at your room door in five minutes. also, if you are sitting and drinking at one of the bars the girls will also come up give you some flirtation, propositions, and her phone number.
don’t expect any english. these girls are pretty much fresher off the bus boat than their macau counterparts. but then again there standard st fee of 200rmb is much cheaper than that of their macau sisters. correspondingly they were younger not as fancy packaged. the girls fell into the 5-7 range. i would say at peak night time hours there were maybe 50-70 girls out. i saw girls working from when i would first hit the street around 11am until the bars closed around 2am i believe. however, there also appeared to be some sort of police crackdown and many of the girls were only walking the streets right at the end of the walking street. you certainly can take a nice tour, keep the numbers of the good candidates and pull the trigger at your leisure.
crazier was pretty disappointed; on his previous trips he said there were many more girls and a better quality. also, he commented that all the girls worked the walking street and it was much more a charge in the air.
the outdoor bars are little squares were they tend to have a couple of young girls inside tending to you. many of these girls are quite cute and open to some romancing, many of these girls all seemed to have taiwanese sponsors. but a young girl in the big city has many expenses and can’t have too many boyfriends? however, these girls seemed to need more romancing and aren’t cutting deals to go back to the room after work. but one can always try
these bars are damn blast to hang out with. the serve beer and limited alcohol, plus fresh fruit juice, smoothies, and great brewed coffee. also, they have no problem if you bring you own liquor in a flask and just buy mixers. i got pretty toasted on duty free jim beam my first night. you are certainly welcome to buys drinks for the girls behind the bar (i believe at the normal price) and also party with the working girls prospecting you.
there is this extremely popular dice game called lie dice and is good way to get some interaction despite language barriers. i would strongly recommend that you learn how to say and make the hand signals for the numbers one through ten in mandarin.
this is much more engaging and fun than the simpleton dice game, connect four, and jinga you find in thai beer bars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/liar's_dice
my first night i only visited the outdoor bar scene. crazier and i cruised the street girls, and met a pair in the first block extending past the end of the walking street. i was intrigued by one with a very chinese face and flashing some cleavage. not ready to buy we tried to beg off with the “we’re going to drink first.” she quickly offered to come and drink with us. at the bar i was quickly getting toasty on jb and coke and crazier was getting his ass kicked in lie dice and consequently drunk too. at first the girl was content to drink coke and communicating through my phrase book and dictionary. but soon i was topping her up with jb as well. we had a good party at the bar and people were amused and helpful with my attempts to learn some mandarin. eventually, our companion was getting antsy that someone take her to the room. crazier said he would take her if i didn’t want to. although she was only a 5 or 6 and could easily be upgraded, i had bonded with her and my bourbon buzzing brain was thinking boobies. so off i went to lose my mainland cherry.
in the room the service was pleasant but a bit pro. we had a fun playful mutual shower and then made our way to the bed portion. there was no kissing, but a decent cat bath and bbbj. after my long day of travel, knocking back a few drinks, and a thick rubber i was not coming easily. she was all smiles and very accommodating about a titty fuck finish. it was funny as she modeled her pearl necklace in the mirror. after washing up, i indicated for her to leave as she didn’t come close to meriting a lt. i gave her the standard 200 rmb fee. of course she thought the white devil price was 300. she pouted when i didn’t up the compensation as her number dropped quickly. finally she picked up about two dollars worth of singapore coins – ok baby you win. i gave her a playful kick in the ass as she went out the door with her jingling tip. my sense is that lhl is a really fun place, but i got a feeling that this was the sort of standard level of service. so the next night i didn’t pull the trigger on another street girl after i had a very good sauna session.
an economical sexy sauna
the next day crazier suggested we go to a lower priced full service sauna. we went to the da ming yuan hotel.
like many of the hotels in the area, there was a more legit massage center with facilities, foot massage, and straight massage. and, there is a second massage center with a full service massage, which involves varying sorts of oral and sexual twists. we went to the normal massage center desk first on one floor, and then we expected to be taken to a different floor to see the line-ups and were they supposedly had rooms equipped to do a soapie massage.
unfortunately our arrival was right in the peak weekend traffic of saturday early evening. given this was the value place, it was crawling with local customers. evidently things were so jammed up the sexy massage was overbooked and we had to use a normal hotel room. after waiting 15 minutes in the big open lounge area we were taken to a different floor and into a normal hotel room. after a few minutes more, we got our first line-up of i think 5 girls in sheer short pink nighties and black bra and pantie. the table scraps weren’t looking to good, however there was one out of the five who was very outgoing and playful, she had nice big thingies but was kind of plain looking otherwise ( i would rate her about a 5.) crazier and i dismissed the girls and ask for a second line-up. about 5 minutes later we got a couple of different girls, one of them was cute. we both thought she was the best looking option, but i had a good feeling that playful girl from the first line-up would take real good care of me. crazier took the cute one and i recalled the #130.
i kept this room for my session, soon #130 showed up and was breaking the ice with nice flirting, kissing, and playing with my phrase books. she seemed to be trying to apologize that they didn’t have the table for the soapie in the room. however, in the shower gave a stimulating vertical soapie with lots of titty fucking, grinding her ass crack, and then grinding my dick with her pussy lips. all performed with a very gfe treatment. after she washed off the suds she gave me short bbbj in the shower. after she dried us both off and got me relaxed on the bed she called and got what i though were beverages. shortly a tray of six cups of stuff arrived. one was hot tea, another, a mentholated mouthwash, a soya milk with pearl, ice, and something else.
she started by massaging her slightly saggy but still full tits all over my backside. next she took some ice in her mouth and made these hard sucking kisses down my back; a pleasant sensation. the she rimmed me with the ice, and then did a rim job with the hot tea. then my backside got another third pass with a different liquid. this pass she propped my ass in the air, rimmed me and suck my balls while stroking my shaft. that was excellent. this was all done at a very relaxed pace.
she had me turn over, and gave me a soft touch sensual massage all over, then did the same with her tits, and finally did the ice kissing again. then i got a series of blow jobs, alternating the ice, hot tea, and the soya with jelly. soon we were fucking. she was pretty damn good and more spontaneous here. but the damn thick and constricting local condom made it difficult to come. so i came with her jerking me off into her mouth. this was a really enjoyable session. she was very playful and thorough in cleaning us both up. we had a little bit of time so she massaged me a little bit and we practiced some basic phrases. i really didn’t think i could take pics in here, but i halfhearted asked if i could after we got dress, she was happy to oblige. damn i wish had taken them earlier when naked!
anyway, i wanted to reward her but i didn’t have anything smaller than 100rmb. so i tipped her that and she was extremely happy, and made sure i knew her number #130. downstairs, i paid for the two hour session – something like 238 rmb. that was damn good value.
continued in the dongguan section.
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This is a warning to our brothers regarding a scam in ZhuHai. This seems to be played on to Chinese mongers from Taiwan or HK and not to the foreigners, since I have not seen this posted here.
A girl would become very persistent to hang with one of the brothers arounds the Lin Hua Lu outdoor cafes. Finally, someone would just for a little company or sense of chivalry, buy one or two of the gilrs a drink and let them sit down. They would continue to pester to be taken to the room for a tryst, long or short time. The quote startes with RMB200 for ST and 500 or 800 for LT.
If she was told to go after ST, she might insist that the agreement was for LT and would not leave. There was a time when these gilrs were afraid of the hotel security and would back down when confronted by the hotel security guys but recent reports are indicating that they would challenge the borthers to call police. And P4P is illegal in China.
The second scenario seems to be more ominous. Here, after ST, they would not accept 200 and would start adding up time, including the time spent at the cafe, BJ, BBBJ, DATY, massage or whatever they could come up with. There had been cases where the final amount came to RMB3500. Here, the girl would actually call some gang members ( mostly from the North-East of China., e.g. Dailin, Harbin etc.) and play a bit of extortion game and threaten some degree of physical violence.
I believe that it might be safer to play at the major hotels where the security would not tolerate such bevahior or play at the larger and upscale sauna where the girls are better managed by the hotel mamasans.
These stories are being circulated in a Taiwan monger website and seem to be true. I cannot post the competing website name because of forum rules but I guess I can include it in PM massgaes and answer a few of them.
If you check guideyou.cn, where are lots of pretty girls for your choices.
Glad you and my friend crazier had a blast in Zhuhai,I commend you on having a great time paying local prices.Regarding the scams,that is directed mostly at Taiwanese,since they are less likely to fight compared to Laowai.The gangs are aware the trouble slicing and dicing Laowai,Remember when the HK police cost the Triads financial losses by shutting down Mongkok for about 2 weeks for chopping some gwailoh.Same for Zhuhai,They know Gwailohs are more likely to get physical and fight.Cheers
I agree with you Cebu Local that the Triads DO NOT want any trouble. Even the local police usually will look the other way and don’t care unless something bad happens. Both the Triads and the police want everything to run smoothly. In places like, Zhuhai, Changping and Shenzhen, if the police really wanted to shutdown a place, they can permanently.
I also agree most likely that they will leave non-Asians alone. It’s too much trouble like communications and consequences. True, non-Asians are more likely to strongly argue, fight and call the police. There is too much attention dealing with a Laowai. But they ( scams ) will still likely target single Asians NOT just from Hong Kong or Taiwan but from Singapore, Korea, Malaysia, or any other single overseas Asian. The main reason reports are from HK and Taiwan because there are more mongers from these area than from other places. Well, except for the locals.
On the other hand, NOT everyone belong to a Triad. There are small time outside gangs trying to make some money. These guys don't care and cause trouble. In general, they will leave non-Asians alone but it can still happen.
I like to thank ”Lilojo” since I have picked girls from these outside cafes and will be returning in late Sept. I would like to know how many “outside cafe cases” appeared in these websites. And from how many sources ( people ).
I agree that foreigners (LaoWei) are safer but I am just worried that all it would take is one desperate girl/papasan.
I also believe that the quality of the hotel is a factor. The hotel management is the extra layer of security. Most major China hotels are backed by certain rich/influential officials. If one stays at a cheap lower quality/cost hotel, one may just be more susceptible to scams since the security force may or may not be involved.
None of what I posted is confirmed, just like none of the posts here are absolutely 100% true. I am just repeating what I have read somewhere else. No particular reason that I could see from the other website that this should be completely frabricated.
Safe and Happy Hunting
[QUOTE=Lilojo]I agree that foreigners (LaoWei) are safer but I am just worried that all it would take is one desperate girl/papasan.
I also believe that the quality of the hotel is a factor. The hotel management is the extra layer of security. Most major China hotels are backed by certain rich/influential officials. If one stays at a cheap lower quality/cost hotel, one may just be more susceptible to scams since the security force may or may not be involved.
None of what I posted is confirmed, just like none of the posts here are absolutely 100% true. I am just repeating what I have read somewhere else. No particular reason that I could see from the other website that this should be completely frabricated.
Safe and Happy Hunting[/QUOTE]
The lessons learned by AZN Man and I (mostly AZN Man, unfortunately) from
the "Beatdown Hotel" incident is basically the same as what Lilojo states and
I've confirmed this myself as well as in conversation with working gals.
Anything below 3 star-hotel and you're putting yourself at risk for getting
scammed/extorted by a working girl, particularly if you look like a mark (have
money, too nice, meekness are the main combination of traits the gals look for...).
The reason is that many of these hotels are indirectly owned/operated/controlled
by the gangs in Zhuhai. If you do get extorted, you can go ahead and complain
to the police, but know that the hotel, the police, and the girls are all working
in concert with the gangs. The bottom line is don't go crazy and try to physically
fight back because there is nobody on your side. And don't think that if you are
a foreigner, you are immune. It is true that they would rather not deal with a
foreigner because of the potential for publicity/trouble, but the gangs will have
no qualms about making you "disappear" if you really are being an asshole.
Face trumphs money almost everytime in China, so don't underestimate the
consequences of making someone lose face, even if he's extorting you. For
this reason, only carry cash and never carry more than you're willing to
completely lose, and don't carry bank cards with you, but then I hope that's
common sense.
If you still want to pinch your RMB and stay at low-star hotels, remember to
meet your girl in the hotel lobby and then bring her up, being careful she doesn't
use her mobile phone to call anybody. Make her turn off her mobile if necessary.
DON'T give her your hotel + room number in advance. But then I hope that's
common sense.
But that being said, I feel completely safe in Zhuhai (much more so than Shenzhen
and even Guangzhou) and have never had any problems mongering following
these rules: Don't be an asshole, use common sense, and if it comes down
to losing money then let it go cause it's only money.
J
With regards to this hotel, can confirm that sauna on 3/F has red rope service available. Although girls not as professional as other districts but other services are great. Well worth a visit at RMB298 for 1.5 hours all inclusive.
The sex industry is an essential part of the economy. That is a fact. Probably half the hotels rely on it. The authorities will have a show crack down but mostly, it is show. Be flexible and always smile. That is the Asian way.
Looks like there is a slight drug problem in ZH. In the short while I've been here I've seen one OD (police arrived in 2 minutes ambulance took 14) and in another location fresh & bloody syringes laying around..
LHL quality is very varied..surely some hotties out there but also many fuglies with obvious mileage. One 30 yo even opened with 150 ST..had the feeling this was not last price..didn't try to find out (with 150 ST for BBS takeout it should be)
BTW anyone who knows (a ballpark figure) how much the regular shopgirls make in ZH? My chinese skills are close to zero and any attempted converstaion with the cuties about wages will be interpreted as something else I guess lol...
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Looks like there is a slight drug problem in ZH. In the short while I've been here I've seen one OD (police arrived in 2 minutes ambulance took 14) and in another location fresh & bloody syringes laying around..
LHL quality is very varied..surely some hotties out there but also many fuglies with obvious mileage. One 30 yo even opened with 150 ST..had the feeling this was not last price..didn't try to find out (with 150 ST for BBS takeout it should be)
BTW anyone who knows (a ballpark figure) how much the regular shopgirls make in ZH? My chinese skills are close to zero and any attempted converstaion with the cuties about wages will be interpreted as something else I guess lol...[/QUOTE]
There always been a big problems with drug in ZH not just a slight problem. A lot of this SWs are selling themselves mainly because their needs of money to buy drugs! That is also one of the main reasons why there are so many SWs in ZH.
An average shop-assistant in ZH are paid 500 / month, if they can open their legs for 2 hours @ 150, they make those numbers in just 2 nights.
Enjoy
AG
I have been to Golden Port Hotel Sauna west side of the boarder building.
I was looking for the "two-dragon-horse sauna" but could not find it. Is that landmark is two dragon-horses get twisted to pillow on the both side of entrance?? That massage parlor was just in front of Golden Port Hotel Sauna. and looks like Thai Style MP. But as I am not sure, I have tried Golden Port Hotel Sauna it is just opposite side of the road.
Price is 298rmb for normal room and 338rmb for VIP.
I took VIP with shower room and a massage table then manager showed me 3 groups of 3 girls. My girls was 23yo with nice tits from GuanXi.(I don't know where it is)
Service include FS, BBBJ, massage and body wash on a table and a bed, fire&ice but no red rope.
It seems not special but it will be OK if you find a favorite girl.
[QUOTE=Goowest]I have been to Golden Port Hotel Sauna west side of the boarder building.
I was looking for the "two-dragon-horse sauna" but could not find it. Is that landmark is two dragon-horses get twisted to pillow on the both side of entrance?? That massage parlor was just in front of Golden Port Hotel Sauna. and looks like Thai Style MP. But as I am not sure, I have tried Golden Port Hotel Sauna it is just opposite side of the road....
[/QUOTE]
Hey Goowest,
You were almost there, the "two-dragon-horse sauna" place is directly across
the street from the Golden Port Sauna and then to the far right of the Thai-
looking massage place. Basically, it's the first hotel on the corner of that
street and the sauan is on the 3rd or 4th floor, I forgot.
The service sounds similar to Golden Port, but I thought the girls at this sauna
were generally taller and better looking than other places in ZH. No red ropes
at this place but available at the XiangJiang place Night Dragon mentioned
before.
J
[QUOTE=Asian Gambler]There always been a big problems with drug in ZH not just a slight problem. A lot of this SWs are selling themselves mainly because their needs of money to buy drugs! That is also one of the main reasons why there are so many SWs in ZH.
An average shop-assistant in ZH are paid 500 / month, if they can open their legs for 2 hours @ 150, they make those numbers in just 2 nights.
Enjoy
AG[/QUOTE]
Thanks AG. With a 500 monthly take home for a regular shopgirl IMO the street prices should be lower than the "standard" 200 LHL ST. 500 is pretty much on par with what a PI shopgirl makes if she works in a smaller shop ( ie not getting full minimum wage ) Given the large supply side IMO the pricing ought to be more like RMB 75 ST 150 LT in LHL, but obviously it isn't.
I was trying to be a little diplomatic about the drugs. The first impression I got was that it was actually quite prevalent, but then again it could be isolated cases. Hard for a ZH newbie to tell. Another thing I observed was the obvious high number of guys peddling their wares. Loads of guys roaming Gongbei's main pedestrian street half naked. Not really my cup of tea to wade thru a sea of Chinese fags.
[QUOTE=Pute Nut] Loads of guys roaming Gongbei's main pedestrian street half naked. Not really my cup of tea to wade thru a sea of Chinese fags.[/QUOTE]
ZH is in not the only and not the worst city. There are cities in China elsewhere that is worst than ZH.
AG
Today, I have been to New Chang An Sauna(This is "Chang An Good world" on LHL isn't this?)
Its VIP room is larger and looks better than Golden Port.
I met 2 lines of 4 girls each. First 4 girls looks 4-6 and next 4 girls are 5-7. Girls looks are almost same or slightly better than Golden Port.
My girl was from Sichuan, 22yo. Her service is not so much different with a GP girl I had before.
In this time, CAGW is slightly better. I recommend CAGW.
And if you are staying around LHL, CAGW location is super.
Johnny, thank you for you comment.
As I have to leave Zhu Hai tomorrow and return here at the end of October or the first of November, I am going to try other saunas(Maybe "two-dragon-horses") then.
I don't know about other cities in China, but Zhu Hai's service quality is definitely better than MP in Bangkok!
P.S.
I have found a building with "two golden dragon horses" its entrance.
It is Bank of China near Yin Du Hotel.
[QUOTE=Goowest]Today, I have been to New Chang An Sauna(This is "Chang An Good world" on LHL isn't this?)
Its VIP room is larger and looks better than Golden Port.
I met 2 lines of 4 girls each. First 4 girls looks 4-6 and next 4 girls are 5-7. Girls looks are almost same or slightly better than Golden Port.
My girl was from Sichuan, 22yo. Her service is not so much different with a GP girl I had before.
In this time, CAGW is slightly better. I recommend CAGW.
And if you are staying around LHL, CAGW location is super.
Johnny, thank you for you comment.
As I have to leave Zhu Hai tomorrow and return here at the end of October or the first of November, I am going to try other saunas(Maybe "two-dragon-horses") then.
I don't know about other cities in China, but Zhu Hai's service quality is definitely better than MP in Bangkok!
P.S.
I have found a building with "two golden dragon horses" its entrance.
It is Bank of China near Yin Du Hotel.[/QUOTE]
Hey Goowest,
That is definately the place.
Glad you had a good time, I think for price/quality/service, the New Chang An
Sauna can't be beat. For those who might prefer the absolute lowest price,
then this isn't the place. Did you remember to get the 50 RMB coupon for next
time? 388 without coupon, 338 with the coupon, but with regular use, I think
you can get the special price without actually having the coupon. I got a coupon
a few weeks ago for some sauna near the Shui Wan Bar area with FS for 188...
sounds too good to be true, but I'll check it out next week when I'm back. I
wish I could have hung out with you this week. Give me a msg when you come
back next month.
Also, while you're correct about the Bank of China having the statues, I didn't
get any sauna service in that bank...well, not with what I can offer the bank
in terms of new deposits, ha...
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]
Glad you had a good time, I think for price/quality/service, the New Chang An Sauna can't be beat. J[/QUOTE]Was in Zhuhai for a few months ago. Took the opportunity to try out one of the health spa in Zhuhai which was highly recommended by others.
Hence after sending off my PRC girlfriend off at the bus station, I quickly made my way to the Chang-An-Hao-shi-jie-jiu-dian (Chang An Good world hotel) which is located along the Yue-hai-lu (Canton Road) after the Lian-hua-lu (Lotus flower road).
Went up to the hotel health spa which is located at third floor. Was greeted by some pretty GRO. Later a captain show me the various rooms that are available. Very nice décor in each of the room. Almost five star quality like in Macau. Was told that they have two price packages. A 388 Rmb and 488 Rmb packages where the higher price allows you to use a much bigger room. I decided to take the 388 Rmb package. Each package last about two hours long. If you take any package after 12 midnight, you are allow to stay overnight in the room at no additional cost.
Next was the viewing session. Was initially shown six PRC. I could have asked for another round of viewing as they have about 20 PRC available in the afternoon. However I saw and fancy a very fair, petite and cute PRC from the first line up. Hence I selected her. Found out from her that she is 22 years old from Guizhou. Very GFE.
As I was not familiar with the procedure. I gave her the responsibility to take charge. She stripped off her uniform and bare her nice shapely body. She has a nice size see boobs which I get to taste later. Then she helped me to remove all my clothings. I could not help it but my didi already did a standing up as she commented and massaging my didi.
You must be wondering why the package last for two hours. I was thinking about that myself. Apparently she has to go through over twenty procedures steps by steps in cleaning and servicing me. I will list them as follows.
She got me to lie on the washing bed with my back facing up. There after. -she washed me and apply soap to both myself and herself. Then she used her firm boobs to body massage all over my body. Such a nice feeling
-she lie on top of me and uses her body to massage me.
-then she asked me to turn over facing up and she repeated the above procedures using her boobs and her body. The best part was when she use her wet boobs to massage my didi. A nice view to seen while she was doing that.
-Allowed my hands to do auto roaming and raba raba her as she was massaging me. After all the cleaning up, I really felt like the cleanest person in the world.
Next we move on to the massage bed. Similarly she told me to lie flat with my back facing up again.
-she start to body lick all over me. From the ear then move on to the neck. Body. Legs.
-then she gave me AR a few times. Deep probing with her skillful tongue. The final AR was with a cube of ice. Ohhhh!
-Got turn over to face up this time and she start with a nice French kiss and then repeat the whole body licking again.
-However this time she also use her mouth to suck and lick all my fingers and later all my toes.
-All the time I also raba-raba her boobs and ass as she was massaging me.
-She then gave me a BBBJ using warm water, iced water and also milk alternately. She did give me an extended session of BBBJ at my request.
-Next she use a massaging ball and roll it over my body as she cuddled me.
-After that she sat over my didi and massaging her pussy over my didi with out inserting it in. Good feeling. At that time I sensed that it is now my turn to service her.
-Signalled to her and she skillfully inserted a condom over my didi using her mouth.
So. I told her to lie down. Start by French kissing her first then body licked all over her. She massage her boobs as I helped myself to sucking her nipples. Then I return a probing AR to her before DATY her. Her pussy was flooding with her love juice as I got her into climax.
We tried a few positions such as missionary, doggie, standing up. Not easy on the massaging bed but still manageable. Eventually we finished off in her favourite missionary position with her legs high over my shoulder as I pumped my didi into her. After trying hard to hold back for the past two hours, my throbbing didi eventually ejaculated lots of warm cum into her wet pussy. I was indeed very well satisfied as we cuddled up and continued with French kissing.
Overall it is one of the best service I ever got from any health spa. Felt like an emperor being serviced by a PRC concubine during the two hours duration. The 388 Rmb paid is well worth it. One of the must try experience if you ever come to Zhuhai.
Definitely will return for another session when I go to Zhuhai again in a fortnight time.
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By the way, this sauna now also offers a new service where by paying 100 RMB more, you will be served by one of their shījiě. Not to be confused with the name of the hotel, shijie here means something like elder female disciple. These are the girls who train the other girls in the various services....
[QUOTE=Golddragon]Was in Zhuhai for a few months ago. Took the opportunity to try out one of the health spa in Zhuhai which was highly recommended by others.
Hence after sending off my PRC girlfriend off at the bus station, I quickly made my way to the Chang-An-Hao-shi-jie-jiu-dian (Chang An Good world hotel) which is located along the Yue-hai-lu (Canton Road) after the Lian-hua-lu (Lotus flower road).
Went up to the hotel health spa which is located at third floor. Was greeted by some pretty GRO. Later a captain show me the various rooms that are available. Very nice décor in each of the room. Almost five star quality like in Macau. Was told that they have two price packages. A 388 Rmb and 488 Rmb packages where the higher price allows you to use a much bigger room. I decided to take the 388 Rmb package. Each package last about two hours long. If you take any package after 12 midnight, you are allow to stay overnight in the room at no additional cost.
Next was the viewing session. Was initially shown six PRC. I could have asked for another round of viewing as they have about 20 PRC available in the afternoon. However I saw and fancy a very fair, petite and cute PRC from the first line up. Hence I selected her. Found out from her that she is 22 years old from Guizhou. Very GFE.
As I was not familiar with the procedure. I gave her the responsibility to take charge. She stripped off her uniform and bare her nice shapely body. She has a nice size see boobs which I get to taste later. Then she helped me to remove all my clothings. I could not help it but my didi already did a standing up as she commented and massaging my didi.
You must be wondering why the package last for two hours. I was thinking about that myself. Apparently she has to go through over twenty procedures steps by steps in cleaning and servicing me. I will list them as follows.
She got me to lie on the washing bed with my back facing up. There after. -she washed me and apply soap to both myself and herself. Then she used her firm boobs to body massage all over my body. Such a nice feeling
-she lie on top of me and uses her body to massage me.
-then she asked me to turn over facing up and she repeated the above procedures using her boobs and her body. The best part was when she use her wet boobs to massage my didi. A nice view to seen while she was doing that.
-Allowed my hands to do auto roaming and raba raba her as she was massaging me. After all the cleaning up, I really felt like the cleanest person in the world.
Next we move on to the massage bed. Similarly she told me to lie flat with my back facing up again.
-she start to body lick all over me. From the ear then move on to the neck. Body. Legs.
-then she gave me AR a few times. Deep probing with her skillful tongue. The final AR was with a cube of ice. Ohhhh!
-Got turn over to face up this time and she start with a nice French kiss and then repeat the whole body licking again.
-However this time she also use her mouth to suck and lick all my fingers and later all my toes.
-All the time I also raba-raba her boobs and ass as she was massaging me.
-She then gave me a BBBJ using warm water, iced water and also milk alternately. She did give me an extended session of BBBJ at my request.
-Next she use a massaging ball and roll it over my body as she cuddled me.
-After that she sat over my didi and massaging her pussy over my didi with out inserting it in. Good feeling. At that time I sensed that it is now my turn to service her.
-Signalled to her and she skillfully inserted a condom over my didi using her mouth.
So. I told her to lie down. Start by French kissing her first then body licked all over her. She massage her boobs as I helped myself to sucking her nipples. Then I return a probing AR to her before DATY her. Her pussy was flooding with her love juice as I got her into climax.
We tried a few positions such as missionary, doggie, standing up. Not easy on the massaging bed but still manageable. Eventually we finished off in her favourite missionary position with her legs high over my shoulder as I pumped my didi into her. After trying hard to hold back for the past two hours, my throbbing didi eventually ejaculated lots of warm cum into her wet pussy. I was indeed very well satisfied as we cuddled up and continued with French kissing.
Overall it is one of the best service I ever got from any health spa. Felt like an emperor being serviced by a PRC concubine during the two hours duration. The 388 Rmb paid is well worth it. One of the must try experience if you ever come to Zhuhai.
Definitely will return for another session when I go to Zhuhai again in a fortnight time.
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Hey Nightdragon,
When was the last time you tried that service? You have to specifically ask for
it? I wasn't offered it the two times I've been to New Chang An Sauna.
Thanks for continuing to add great new info to the ZH board.
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Hey Nightdragon,
When was the last time you tried that service? You have to specifically ask for
it? I wasn't offered it the two times I've been to New Chang An Sauna.
Thanks for continuing to add great new info to the ZH board.
J[/QUOTE]
They offered it to me a couple of weeks ago when I took a visiting friend there. There is also a line-up of shi jie. If they don't offer it to you, just ask.
[QUOTE=Night Dragon]They offered it to me a couple of weeks ago when I took a visiting friend there. There is also a line-up of shi jie. If they don't offer it to you, just ask.[/QUOTE]
One more question, with or without the shi jie, it it two shots? If you do add
a shi jie, would it be two shots for sure? Thanks
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]One more question, with or without the shi jie, it it two shots? If you do add
a shi jie, would it be two shots for sure? Thanks
J[/QUOTE]
The basic fee allows you 2 "hours" (each "hour" actually being 45 mins). The clock starts ticking only after the girl finishes washing you and is ready to start her routine (that's when she calls the front desk). What you do in that time is between you and the girl. My experience is that if you are nice to them, anything is possible.
You can also extend beyond the 2 hours for an additional fee if you like.
Day 1 KL-Macau-Zhuhai
Arrive early at KLIA with Bro Icecool. Flight was delayed for about 30 minutes and as usual it was a boring flight. We landed at about 8pm and took a cab to Gong Bei. The fare was HK$73 even though we had only 1 carry-on bag each. (The immigration will take back the departure slip. The arrival slip should have been taken when you pass through immigration at the airport. When you pass through the china immigration you need to fill in 2 forms. One is the health declaration and the other is the entry form. Look out for the counters where the forms are readily available and always remember to carry a pen. When queuing up remember to be on the correct lane. Look out for Foreign visitors sign on the overhead display board. Only 2 lanes for foreigners. I speak some putonghua but icecool only Cantonese. None of us read chinese characters but all signboards have english wording which makes our task easier).
We got through immigration in about 15 minutes. We headed to the underground shopping complex. (Remember to look for red colored overhead sign board when inside the complex. It like a maze there. ) We followed the sign to Lian Hua Lu (LHL). Got out and immediately saw the bus station on the right. We just crossed the street and took the lane right in front of us. On the left and right you can see small shops selling electrical items and some eateries. You will have to cross the street for LHL. We checked into Great Aim Hotel on the left facing the junction and the beginning of LHL (RMB395 per night). The Heaven on earth disco is on the right. Great Aim Hotel has 2 kinds of room. The smaller ones have the view of the street below. The bigger ones have the view of inner courtyard and come with 1 king size bed plus 1 single bed. It is new and nice but the feature in these rooms are the glass wall dividing the bed room and the shower. With one push of the remote control button you will be able to see the bathroom. When the screen is down you can only see the shadow of someone showering.
While waiting for our bro from we decided to venture on our own at LHL. It was about . On the way heading to the end of LHL, I was harassed by a few gals. The key here seems to be, eye contact with a smile. If you see any gal regardless of whether she is a streetwalker or not, just look them in the eyes and smile. If the gal is not keen she will look away. Of course some gals just walk to you and grab your hand. We noticed the gong an going along LHL. The gals will run into the shops if they notice them coming in their bikes or bread truck. This seems to be the order of the day which makes the harassing bearable to a certain extent but lowered the quality of gals that we were hoping to score with.
Our bro from ******** took us to a nice restaurant. Later we sat at cabana at LHL until . We were harassed repeatedly. Some are willing to have drinks with you just to be able to entice you to close the sale. Unfortunately the gong an were there until quite late. Icecool decided to take a syt about 19 years old. Damn cute for RMB600 overnight. I took a 20 years old for RMB500 overnight. Problems only cropped out later after the first bonk. She wanted to go out for dinner and I was keener to sleep. She insisted to go alone with my hotel key to let herself in after dinner which I rejected. She kept coming up with excuses like her period will be here soon etc. I told her she can leave now and I will pay her RMB200 for ST rate. She refused so I threatened to call the hotel manager to negotiate with her if she keeps on harassing me. She backed down and went off to eat leaving my hotel key with me. The security later called to confirm that I will let her go out. She came back at about and hassled me to let her go by giving various reasons. I let her off by insisting on one more bonk. I refused to pay her taxi fare when she asked for it. What a bad start. Icecool have a similar story but with a twist. Anyway, interesting first day. It only gets better day by day. I notice the gals here are not too hygienic. Most have bad breath and the gal I took did not exercise basic hygiene like washing up with soap after bonk or rinsing mouth with mouth wash/brushing their teeth after BJ.
Day 2 Zhuhai.
Icecool and I exchanged story over breakfast and then went shopping n walkabout. We decided to go for soapy massage at the spa behind 2 dragon-horse statute (i think it's called the Jin Yue Hotel) next to China Construction Bank which is on the opposite side of the gong bei shopping entrance (left entrance. LHL is the right entrance). Just look for the signboard and you will find the hotel. Ask the hotel staff for direction to the sauna which can be difficult to locate.
The soapy massage is RMB350. You will get to choose the gal by photo album. You should insist on a parade. Anyway I took a cute gal. It is for 1 1/2 hours. If you take a gal after 12am, they will let you stay in the room FOC until tomorrow morning. An option for those who want to save on hotel charges. The room is similar with hotel rooms but smaller.
She will go though 18 steps.The first one is the cleaning process. Soapy massage using her hand, breast, pussy and butt on your front and back.body including your foot and AH. Your dicky will rub on her pussy on few occasion but no entry. After drying up she will use of her mouth to massage you with 6 items, front and back. I call it the marination process. She will start with milk, tea, ice, warm water, jelly and sweet. During this time she will AR and also BBBJ you with the ingredients. She will insert her tongue into your AH followed by the sweet/jelly too. Then she will let you have a long BBBJ followed by a FJ. Worth a try.
We took our lunch there and after that went for drinks at LHL cabana. The weather was hot and humid. Drinks costs RMB10-15 for coffee/tea/fruit juice. Beer is expensive but try to go for bottles one. A jug is about RMB50 but avoid this coz its only about 3/4 full from the bad pouring. Quite a number of solicitation from the walker but still low quantity and quality. The best thing about LHL cabanas is the view of SYT gals shopping and streetwalkers.
We took our dinner at the Water mountain restaurant on the 1st Floor looking down on LHL. They have swings as seat. We meet up with our bro from ******** and a Malaysian working there. Icecool finally found a great gal from LHL and I took one of our Singaporean bro's recommended FL. Well, the syt FL costs RMB700 overnight and worth every yuan. Finally a great gal with great attitude. I would rate this gal 7 for overall performance. She is more hygienic too. Highly recommended.! Great 2nd day.
3rd, 4th and 5th day report coming soon. It's on ChangPin and Macau
Was cleaning up my apt yesterday and throwing away tons of random things,
papers, etc. when I came upon an a scrap of paper with a Lian Hua Road gal's
name/number on it. I couldn't really recall when I got it or what the girl
looked like, so...
The girl sounded happy enough to come over to my place and she looked OK.
Not as good as I hoped. She's about 5'4, plump and curvy body but not to
the point of fat yet, and 34 C breasts (surprisingly a boob job too...looks
OK but I usually don't like boob jobs). She is from Heilongjiang and has
a very round face and semi-prominent rabbit-like two front teeth. She seems
to have a penchant for wearing white clothing and stuff that emphasizes her
breasts. Overall a 5-6 face, 6-7 body, and not someone I'd do again or recommend
based on looks.
I spend so much time on her physical description because I forgot her name
and service was pretty lame. After a mutual shower (initially wanted separate
solo showers for some reason, I found out why later, see below) the very
short BBBJ, we start FS and she was OK. I was doing most of the work kissing
her body and moving around while she was laying on her back. After we started
CFS, she mentioned something a couple of times in Chinese I didn't understand.
After fucking her for about 20 minutes, she stopped then got up and took some
tissues to wipe her pussy...and, yes, there was blood. It was that time of the
month. Fuck!
Luckily, my condom was a pinkish-red color and blended with the menstrual blood's
color otherwise I might have gotten sick. Damn this *****! I'm sure she knew, too.
So, I showered alone (she claimed that women shouldn't shower when menstrating)
and then I asked her for a BJ to finish up. She asked for me to pay for LT then
she would finish me off with a BJ. I said she fucking bleeding from her pussy,
how the hell can I take her LT, and she said she'd just go buy some tampons to
absorb the blood and we can keep on fucking...ha ha...
So, after refusing again to BJ unless I paid for LT, I explained to her that this
was idiotic business practice, not finishing a customer and expecting him to extend
his time with her. Also, I told her that I would let others know that her service
sucked. She seemed to realize that she was making a mistake, but these kind of girls
aren't usually the sharpest tool in the shed, so...
A waste of 200 + 20 taxi. Avoid if you see her around Lian Hua Road. Her number is
13727083974. The lesson for me is not to be calling these old random numbers without
really knowing what I'm getting into...
J
dropped in at lianhua lu on sat after sending some people off at macau airport. at first, i had planned to take the bus directly back to humen, dongguan, but decided to recce lianhua lu for a bit of action.
during the first pass on lhl, i was not accosted by any girls (probably bcos i walked pretty fast and i am asian, so i kinda look like a local ), though i did notice several girls eyeing me to gauge if i was a potential mark. did see 3 girls that i would love to do. on my 2nd pass, a few girls tried their charms on me but they didn't look interesting. finally, 1 of the 3 girls i spotted earlier came up beside me, and asked if i wanted to take her back. i asked her how much and she replied rmb200 for st.
we went to one of the hotel to rent a room for 2 hours. back in the room, i found out that she is from inner mongolia, which surprised me cos she was small-sized. her name is hung yin, 19 yrs old, with a real hot body - big-eyed, thin and busty. she said she has been in zhuhai for 6 mths and is enjoying herself very much there. in the bathroom, she washed me and herself quite thoroughly. she then proceeded to brush her teeth, which meant that she was hygienic - good.
she started off with a slow bbbj that felt like heaven, cos i haven't had that good a head in a long time (many bbs girls that i frequent in humen, dongguan either refuse bj or give reluctant half-hearted bjs). we finished off with a couple of positions. she had really solid tits that were big for her body frame and felt hard. i asked her if she went for bust enhancement but she said no. i suspect the opposite though.
after the first round, we still had time and spent it chatting. after about 10mins, i felt the urge to go another round. told her that i wanted to do her again and she said i had to pay another rmb100. i did a quick calculation - rmb300 for 2 shots is reasonable and pretty standard. so we went at it another time. this time, we used both beds in the room, the dressing table, and the armchairs (multiple positions, i was pooped after the 2nd round).
total damage was rmb300 for 2 shots, and rmb50 for 1-1/2 hours room rental.
i must say lhl is pretty good and the selection of girls are pretty reasonable. very happy with the whole experience and good to be able to try a girl from inner mongolia - something different from the usual thoroughfare of hunan, hubei, anhui, guangxi and sichuan girls in humen bbs.
note to self: lianhua lu in zhuhai is certainly one good place to stop by to monger, even if it is for a few hours.
I went to the 香江酒店 hotel, which is about 50-60 meters to the left of the Overseas Chinese
Hotel (Hua Qiao Bin Guan/华侨宾馆) a few weeks ago but I didn't get to write a longer report
about it. It's a great sauna and with the VIP card price (see below) I am willing to put this
place up into the "tier 1" level places in Zhuhai. First, walk into the hotel and go up to the
7th floor. Walk into the smallish, cramped reception and about 5 million people greet you
with a loud "welcome" in Chinese which I think is retarded, ha ha...
You are shown a room immediately and it's about 2-3 star quality which is not too bad and there
is a large glass wall separating the bathroom which features a plastic-covered massage
bed. Waiter gives you a drink then the captain comes in and asks what kind of gal you want.
I had 5 lineups of 3-5 gals each before I could tell the captain was getting kind of
pissed...ha ha...Overall quality of gals wasn't as good as before, maybe 5-7/10, but it
was kind of raining, it was about 11:30pm, and a Tuesday night.
Chose a Sichuan gal, #15 one of the tallest in their lineups, because I usually have had good
experiences with Sichuan gals and she didn't disappoint, especially with her NBA action
BBBJ (it's FAN-tastic). She seemed happy I chose her because it was her first day back on the
job after a month off when she went home to Chongqing for some reason...yeah, right, whatever,
just get ready to do your job, girl, ha ha...
Typical sauna service, but very complete and very well-done. Breast-body-wash, milk wash, sucking
water and other BS all over my body, licking and sucking my hands and fingers (something new),
BBBJ with liquids, a tingly ass disinfecting followed by nice ass licking, red rope BBBJ (just
literally hanging off the ropes and giving me a BJ, ha....pointless), red rope fucking, and then
rest. I could have fucked her again but I was too preoccupied with touching and kissing her body,
which she seemed to enjoy. She has the perfect type of body for me, tall-ish, naturally thin,
smallish 32B or C breasts, and nice skin and little makeup. I had just gotten hard again and she
was giving me another BBBJ when the phone rang to inform us time was up. I didn't extend the time
so we showered and then she walked me to the front desk.
She doesn't like her pussy being licked and you can only touch it if you are gentle and careful.
Her BBBJ is great and she does it with enthusiasm and no hesitation, she's focused on service
and can deep throat with no problem, too. Basically, you'll be satisfied if you choose her. There
are a couple of other cuties I'll go back for, but pickings were slim.
Overall:
________
Face - 7
Body - 8.5
Service - 8.5
When paying, I found out that prices are 368 RMB with automatic discount to 328 RMB (again, what's
the point? just make it 1,000,000 RMB with automatic discount, then). Captain asked if I wanted
a VIP card and I did, so with VIP card, price was 268 RMB for the gal and 90 minutes
of service. These are complete prices and no need to tip gal. Yes, Zhuhai is fucking great...
or should I say great for fucking.
J
Was cleaning up my place and found yet another random telephone number on those little slips of
paper that the LHL gals give out...again have no recollection of what she looks like at all. I
know OAH will enjoy this, but I decided to roll the dice again...
Called up Xiao Xin and got the mamasan. She cackled (yes, like a witch) when she realized I was
a customer and handed the phone to XX and she immediately asked when the hell I got her number...
Anyway, maybe it was a slow night or whatever, but she agreed to come over to my place.
I met her downstairs and she looked at me oddly and grilled me again on when/where I got her
number. I lied/guessed LHL last week and she said impossible because she wasn't working last
week. Doh! Eventually, I guess my boyish charms won her over and she followed me into my apartment.
She's from Jilin, about 5'6, 32 B breasts (my favorite handful-type), and nice tight 19-year
old body. Face was cute in a "nice girl" type way, but not hot or sexy. She did like to laugh
and seemed comfortable with herself and her body which is nice.
We had a nice shower together and she even voluntered to brush her teeth which is a sign of
DFK to come. We got back to the bed and she asked what I wanted and I said good service. She
laughed and just acted like a goofball, which could turn off some guys, but I didn't mind. We
started kissing and she seemed to enjoy it. No BJ offered or asked, though I suspect she doesn't
do it well. Condom then pretty good FS, then rest and some more kissing.
We showered up and she left. She did mention that she would be going to the Lisboa Hotel starting
this Friday to work among the herd of hotties there...what the fuck?? She doesn't look anywhere
near hot enough to compare, she's like a Mini-Cooper to those Lisboa Lamborghini gals. Anyway,
that's her story.
Face-6.5
Body-8
Service-7
Overall, a good "blind call" experience to cancel out the previous not-so good blind call experience.
If you want her services, call her up and tell her the American guy recommended her and I think it
will put her in a better mood. 1313811476* (missing digit: how many points did the Green Bay Packers
score last week?)
J
PS. added one photo she would allow, and it illustrates what a silly girl she is...
Yes, those "ears" on the underwear were cute and she flapped them around to
show me. Also promised me that she would wear some other interesting types next
time...ha...
Recently been scheduling my time very well and have been able to get some pussy in and still
finish the work I have to do. It still sucks because the time is tight and haven't been able
to go after freebies and SWs, hence the random numbers called and all these saunas visits. Anyway,
probably will have to wait till next week for some variety...
So, decided to go to 香江酒店 hotel sauna (close to apt and good experiences) and try to find
my stupdendious Sichuan sucking queen, #15, but alas, she was taken. Looked through a few
lineups from the over-friendly, vaguely gay male captain. Be sure to insist on several lineups
as I can tell the first couple of lineups were definately the "B" team and even "C" team in
terms of available girls. Especially the first girl, my god...she was a human elephant, ha ha...
Anyway, chose a gal, forgot her number...maybe #25. She had this pretty-yet-slutty look about her
which fit the bill that night. 5'4", perfect handful 32B breasts, and a nice body that shows signs
of being semi-active...it was curvy and firm with just enough definition on the collarbone, shoulders,
legs, and ass. Just deliciousness for the eyes, I could just look at her and touch her for hours,
which I ended up doing, kind of. Only minus was this phoenix tatoo to the left of her bellybutton,
right on top of some surgery scar...appendectomy?
She is from Guangxi so my mix of Mandarin/Cantonese was great at chatting and communicating with
her, but almost from the onset, I got the feeling she was a little off her rocker...so, I'll name
her Stacy (as in ecstacy) since she seemed to be smiling or giggling during our entire session.
Good shower with standard breast-to-body wash (even a short but great BBBJ), onto the bed for BBBJ
with the liquid, great anal rimming (I actually washed myself prior to coming to the sauna because
I wanted to feel cleaner...don't know if it made a difference or not, but the anal rimming was a
lot deeper and more intense than previously), and then onto red rope for some hanging BBBJ. Fucked
her missionary and doggie on the red ropes till done and then shower and rest. I wanted to fuck
her again, but I could kind of tell that her "ec-Stacy" happy/retarded persona was suddenly adjusted
to happy/defensive in an effort to prevent a second fuck. If I insisted, I'm sure I could have
fucked her again, but I was just as happy to gaze upon and touch that gorgeous body. As soon as
the phone rang, she jumped off the bed and was getting dressed...ha ha, pretty romantic.
Used my freshly minted VIP card to get the 268 RMB price and then left. How can you beat great
service, with red ropes too, for 268??
The gal's mobile number is 1372708*96* if you want to ask what her working number is. (missing
2 digits: Yao Ming used to play for which Shanghai basketball team?)
J
Wow..just spent the last three and a half hour RTFF in its entirety. Awesome reports from Johnnykon666, as well we Ace, Night Dragon, and other senior members.
Been a seasoned monger, mostly in Korea and US, but didn't know about the forum until I moved to HK a few months back.
I have not had any experience to report yet, just RTFF diligently to get all the info I can, and there are so many things to read, including HK, Macau, Zhuhai, Dongguan, Shenzhen, all reacheable within an hour distance! I'm getting confused now with all the new names and locations...haha.
I am actually planning a trip in a couple of weeks, and was debating between a Shenzhen vs. Macau/Zhuhai, but I think I'm pretty settled in the Macau/Zhuhai option. Was gonna go with a wingman, but he can't make it now, so will have to fly solo.
I'm a fan of the KTV scene, and never have gone alone. I usually pay around US$400-$500 per evening at KTV including tips and drinks in Korea (I know, ridiculous prices and not even including FS, but it's standard, even for a local, but the quality is there), and was psyched to try the lower prices offered by Shenzhen/Macau/Zhuhai.
My current plan is to take the ferry out of HK to Macau, in the evening during last Friday of September, having bought a China City and/or Darling 1 package in the terminal, gamble a couple of hours, hoping I can get lucky, off to China City, get 2 girls, 1 speaking English (mind you, I speak no words of Cantonese/Mandarin, though fluent English), if I like the talent there, take for LT (2000 standard, but I guess I have to get a hotel too). If not, just leave and go to Darling 1, check out the famous line-up, and sleep there. In the afternoon, check out the famous parade at the Lisboa Hotel, try a 500 ST option, then if I still haven't used my Darling 1 coupon, go then, and off to Zhuhai I go.
I plan on getting a room in Zhuhai, either GD regency, Da Hai or Chang An, then off to check out the Lian Hwa Lu scene. Not very familiar with the SW scene, so don't know how I'll fare there.
I'm hoping for a visit to either or both Xin Chang An and two-dragon-horse saunas. I want to visit Da Ming Yuan too, but I just may not have enough juice left in me.
Then on Sunday, depending on my experiences so far, either head back to Macau to try 18 sauna and relax, or go for more of LHL or other saunas in Zhuhai. One time or other in Zhuhai, I'm planning on getting 3 girls for foursome. Heck, if I just paid 1700 for Darling 1, I shouldn't mind paying 1500-1650 for a foursome.
These are only based on my reading of the reports, and while I wish to try the KTV's in Zhuhai, no specific information on quality/service/prices have been posted, so I'm afraid to venture without knowing. Any more inputs from the senior members? If any of you want to hang out and chill/monger during that time, it would definitely be more fun than just going around alone.
Oh, and I intend on bringing an English magazine with huge letters on the cover, and the proper dressing to show I have the dough, and I'm a foreigner. (as you may have guessed, I am an asian-american) - as per wise guidances posted on this forum. Although because of the moving around I'll be doing, I better pack light.
Anyway, just wanted to say thanks because planning this trip cannot have been done without awesome postings from you guys, and if I go through with this trip, I'll definitely post my experience as well to give back. (not sure if I'll have that weekend free due to work. but this trip will happen sometime during my stay in HK!).
monger on!
Had a chance to hang out with some other mongers in ZH (finally) and it was good times. Nothing
crazy happened but I can see some possible interesting times in the future.
Anyway, badly wanted to go to New Chang An (Good World Chang An Hotel across the street from Yue
Hai Hotel) to do the two-girl service mentioned by Night Dragon. But unfortunately, denied on two
separate visits. What the fuck?? I'll try again later on and see how it goes...
Since I was in the area, I went across the street to the Jin Yu Hotel (aka The Beatdown Hotel) to
try out their sauna on the 3rd floor. Again, this place is directly across the street from New
Chang An Hotel. As mentioned by other memebers on the board, seems like it was newly rennovated
and the lobby and the rooms are nice. The New Chang An hotel rooms are slightly better though, but
Jin Yu is 298 RMB vs.388 RMB at New Chang An, so you're paying for what you get. It would be nice
to stay in either place overnight. These two places are definately two or three steps above the
quality of VIP sauna rooms at Da Ming Yuan, Jiaotong Hotel, and Gongbei Bingguan.
Went through 4 line ups of 5-6 gals at Jin Yu, and my opinion is that Jin Yu has some of the better
looking gals in ZH saunas. No stunners, but a couple of strong 7 and 8s. For some idiotic reason,
I decided to choose this one gal I thought would be good because of her necklace...some crystal
thing. Ha ha...well, I guess there are worse reasons, but well, in hindsight, it was retarded.
Forgot her name, but #99, from outside of Wuhan/Hubei Province, 5'3", tight slim young Chinese
gal body, nice 32B breasts with light pink nipples. Good body that is enough to turn you on, but
nothing that blows you away. Service is comparable to Chang An and other saunas in ZH with breast
rub, sucking liquids off your body, BBBJ with liquids (but only hot/cold water here, and no milk,
cola, etc which I think is a good thing, actually), rimming, and red rope service (better than
other places, but still a novelty to try once and skip during subsequent visits IMHO).
Service was very lackluster with no kind of kissing, very no-touching policy on her breasts and
body in general (with the lame excuse of ticklish), and just so run-of-the-mill and lackluster that
it drifts into "bad experience" category even thought it wasn't necessarily bad. She did all the
service steps she was trained to do, but there wasn't any "spark", not even a basic one that I'm
sure all the gals are taught. Overall, skip #99. I'll be back to try some of the other cuties at
this place, but for 298 RMB, I was expecting a better, more deluxe sauna experience since I can
get mediocre service at plenty of ZH saunas at less than 220 RMB.
Overall:
Face: 6.5
Body: 7.5
Service: 5
Also, there were a lot of new girls on Lian Hua Road on Saturday night, too, but you gotta get
somebody by 7pm-9pm in my opinion. By 11pm-1am period, I only saw about 50% of the gals that I saw
earlier at night and the late night market is definately of a lower quality than at about 7pm-9pm.
You can still find a girl no problem ofcourse, but it feels like a letdown with the quality available
earlier that night.
J
For me
Girl quality at Yin Ju slightly better, monger service definately better at Yin Ju but "proper massage (non-sexual part)" better at Chang An.
At the end of the day cost a big factor 388 (or 338 if you 50RMB voucher) Vs 298.
For me Yin ju wins hands down.
Do to proximity I post this here. ZhongShan City (aka SihQi) is about 30 Minutes north of Zhuhai.
It's still a very clean, very organised and very civilized. So far i have not seen a BBS in ZS. So the scene is a bit less obvious then in other places.
There is quite some street walker action near the International Hotel (Guo Ji). I was approached a few times. Some girls looked really good. Asking price was 400 , which was after a few words in bad Mandarin dropped to 400 for 2. Anyway, with SW I always worry a bit about security. So I passed that.
I stayed in the Xiang Shan Hotel, opposite from the International Hotel for a moderate 170 . I tried again from the "Hair Shop" next to the XS hotel (go out, turn sharp right, 30m away, go in). One girl was quite cute, a Sichuanese. Mom ask for 50 upfront for massage. In the room then I noticed that I had her a few month ago. She was quite OK. No BJ, no DFK. However, funny and playfull and sort of GF type.
This time she never even tried to start with the massage. We had a 2 hour session and that was a reasonable 200. So far so good.
Next day I tried the 4th floor massage place. There are different types of massage. I tried the 168rmb one.
You get a room (it's actually a hotel room), and you get to chose a girl. Mine was a friendly one from Hunan. You can have a massage for the agreed 168 - or add "Sex" for an extra 150 (again very resonable tip!).
After the shower she started a massage. Basically a all over cat lick, which was fun, and then going on with a hot and cold water BBBJ which lasted quite some time. Finalized was the session of course with FS.
All in all a good experience and I would go there again.
Hi Johnny,
I was wondering if when you refer to Jin Yu hotel across Good World Hotel is in fact Jin Du hotel?
I saw a map in post #328 and I see that YueHai is on the Southeast corner, Good World is on the Southwest corner, and JinDu is on the Northeast corner.
It seems like there are 3 Chang An hotels in ZH: Chang An JiuDian, Xin Chang An Jiudian, and Chang An Hao Shi Jie Jiudian. From the various posts, I'm guessing that "New Chang An Sauna" is inside Chang An Hao Shi Jie Jiudian. Am I correct?
Just wanted to double check locations. I would hate to go into an unknown place and be scammed by the 400rmb per glass of wine scam that I read about.
thanks
[QUOTE=Minkfan1]Hi Johnny,
I was wondering if when you refer to Jin Yu hotel across Good World Hotel is in fact Jin Du hotel?
I saw a map in post #328 and I see that YueHai is on the Southeast corner, Good World is on the Southwest corner, and JinDu is on the Northeast corner.
It seems like there are 3 Chang An hotels in ZH: Chang An JiuDian, Xin Chang An Jiudian, and Chang An Hao Shi Jie Jiudian. From the various posts, I'm guessing that "New Chang An Sauna" is inside Chang An Hao Shi Jie Jiudian. Am I correct?
Just wanted to double check locations. I would hate to go into an unknown place and be scammed by the 400rmb per glass of wine scam that I read about.
thanks[/QUOTE]
Minkfan,
You're right...it's kind of a case of me using information/references from other
members and it becoming standard even though it's not necessarily correct.
So, for clarification, yes, Jin Du Hotel is correct. The sauna is on the 5th floor.
298 RMB inclusive of everything and 90 minutes of service. No tip necessary to gal.
Location is immediately next to Yue Hai Hotel. Yue Hai Hotel is located on the
corner of the street and Jin Du is the next building.
"New Chang An Sauna" is indeed the sauna located inside the Chang An Hao
Shi Jie Jiudian. I should start referring to it as Chang An Good World Sauna...
and it's a might good world indeed.
Have a good time and if you want to hook up, PM me.
J
Hi Johnny,
Wow, that was a fast response.
I'm planning my next run. I just installed the beta version of google earth and it is awesome. There is a function that lets you mark locations, measure distances, so I am going through ZH, Macau, CP, and SZ and marking all the actions, hotels, etc.
I tried to upload some finished satellite maps to ISG but I guess I have to save the images in a smaller file format. Regular colored maps just do not give you the impression as of sat map.
I'd also like to take street level pictures of the locations, but I don't think the girls nor mommies would very much like it if I walk around with a camera and say "smile for ISG!"
minkfan
[QUOTE=Minkfan1]Hi Johnny,
Wow, that was a fast response.
I'm planning my next run. I just installed the beta version of google earth and it is awesome. There is a function that lets you mark locations, measure distances, so I am going through ZH, Macau, CP, and SZ and marking all the actions, hotels, etc.
I tried to upload some finished satellite maps to ISG but I guess I have to save the images in a smaller file format. Regular colored maps just do not give you the impression as of sat map.
I'd also like to take street level pictures of the locations, but I don't think the girls nor mommies would very much like it if I walk around with a camera and say "smile for ISG!"
minkfan[/QUOTE]
For better or worse, I'm in a mostly-office type job where I'm at the desk from
about 9-5, so any posts during that period can be read and replied to quickly.
J
Had a good day yesterday so I decided to treat myself to a sexual buffet, but then again, there's never a need to make excuses for that.
Called a gal who I met on the street the other day while hanging out with some new mongers in ZH. I guess I'll refer to this area as Lian Hua Road Jr. This is the street that Yue Hai Hotel and Chang An Good World Sauna lie on. For those not familiar, if you've walked around the regular LHL and haven't found any interesting gals, you can try LHL Jr. And there will usually be an additional 15-20 gals hanging about this road.
So, I called up Xiao Xin and mamsan answers the phone and quickly gets the real XX on the phone. She remembers me and then I give her directions to my place. A quick taxi ride later, she is at my place and looks a little different than I remember, actually. The best way I can describe her is a small, petite Chinese version of Christina Ricci. Ha ha. It's her semi-odd Aadams Family-style eyes that got me. It doesn't look ugly, but looks very much like Ricci. Anyway, she's about 5'3, 100 lbs, nice fresh tender 32B breasts, and a delicious just-18 type body. Mostly because I treated her well, lots of joking around, and just a friendly atmosphere helped us to have a very nice FS experience. Standard BBBJ, body kissing, covered FS. One interesting note is that XX gives a very subtle and nice ball lick/suck. I know most Chinese gals who do that suck too hard or are too rough, but XX seemed to have just the right strength and pressure to compliment her good BBBJ. Gave her standard 200 + 20 taxi and she left. Nice and it hit the spot.
After a nice dinner, decided to call up Cutie Pie (see my past reports) and ask her to recommend a friend. I'm sure I've given her too much power to just select from her friends to give away free businessness, but I've usually had interesting gals from her. But guess what? Apparently, Xiao Xin's mamasan is CP's mamasan, too! Ha ha. So CP immediately said, "Hey you just fucked Xiao Xin, right? You want more gals already? " So, she started pushing hard for two girls (herself and the other gal, ofcourse) but I refused. She agreed and said would send her friend over. When I went to pick the gal up, well, you guessed it, they both came. They started molesting me at the entrance to my apartment when I tried to send one home, so we all went inside where more molesting, playing with my cock, and stripping themselves left me with little choice but to agree to fuck them both. Ha ha, tough, I know.
So we take a nice shower with these two little gals cleaning me all over. Cutie's friend was petite also, but not as tiny as CP. Xiao Qing (? ) was about 5'4, 110 lbs, less than handful 32A breasts, and a more womanly type of body but still very young. I guess she was 18 or 19. And apparently, all this mama's gals are from the same village in Hubei.
So, we get on the bed and it's nice to have two cute little gals working over my body with their little mouths. Neck, chest, cock, balls. All double the pleasure with two sets of lips and tongues. Especially Xiao Qing, her BBBJ is excellent and I would have liked to CIM but time was getting tight and I wanted to finish up with the gals. I put on the condom and worked over XQ for about 20 minutes before she seemed to tire out. CP was watching and giggling most of the time, stroking XQ's head every once in a while. You could probably tell it wasn't a porno-professional orgy, and I didn't mind because I didn't expect it. Changed condoms and then started into CP. About 20 minutes for her too and came doggy style with XQ resting next to us with a dreamy look or naping.
Was a lot more of a workout than I thought and we were all sweaty afterwards. It was a nice experience though probably won't be repeating, mostly because CP doesn't give good service unless you are pretty much a controlling asshole to her and that's not my personality. She does have the best tight, wet, lighly- haired pussy out of any gal I've had in China though. Just a great perfect fit. If I were building a perfect woman, I'd use CP's pussy, definately, ha ha.
I've attached a few pics of CP and XQ. Most of the pics were pretty bad because these two silly gals didn't know how to take pics with the digital camera and whenever I was the one taking pics, they hid or made bad poses. The first gal, XX, wouldn't allow any pics.
J
While I've gone to sz numerous times I've never ventured over here; however as a couple of American friends are now working in the area I figured why not. After my now routine stay at one of the saunas in Macau I read up on the posts especially by Johnnykon666 I went looking for the Chang An/Jin yu hotels figuring worse case basis I was gonna stay at the Holiday Inn. After wandering a bit I found the Chang An I think near lotus road where the sauna is in another building? But I'm not entirely sure as my buddy and I only paid 280 rmb each. I saw a total of 7 ladies at best in the 6 - 7 range (big let down after 18 sauna) but of course there is the price difference 280 versus 1500. After a few recent posts I know why I wasn't able to find Jin Yu. But anyway got a nice girl 6.75 at best in the looks department good attitude and BBBJ using different ingredients including beer. I also got my ass buzzed a bit with a vibrator. Not bad for 280. But not sure if i got the right place.
Now the above was late in the day as earlier I had hung out at the Lotus street bars drinking a few beers with an Australian. He and his Asian wife were researching bring in lots of Chinese to Australia to fill the gap for employees willing to work at minimum wage in Australia (I think he said over 10 A dollars an hour). Well anyway they had given one S W 100 to chat with them as she said her mommie saw her just sitting down too long with nothing happening. Well anyway numerous S W came and went trying to proposition me but I did a good job chasing them away. One was persistent but i thought she was just mainly engaging in a conversation with the Austrlian's wife. But she did mentioned she wanted to go back to the hotel with me for the standard 200 rmb? Well anyway alot of time passed, 1 and a half hour and I was willing to give her 20 rmb to go and get another potential customer as I wasn't gonna be it. We then headed off to dinner with her in hot pursuit asking for her 100 rmb but of course I refused. She was getting pretty pushy now. Later while the three of us were sitting down at the restaurante she was just hovering over me I guess partly to embarass me but of course that didn't work. The couple were a bit intrigued as far what was gonna happen next. Naturally I got the FLYING CUP OF TEA IN THE FACE. Good bit of entertainment for the entire restaurant. Life goes on.
Wong Wen, from Hubei. BBBJ, CIM, FS about 3 times so far... she treats me well. I think she looks better in person than in this photo, but here's her photo. (from Lian Hua Lu).
I stayed in the Grand Bay View Hotel yesterday. The hotel has a massage/sauna. I went there. As I have no experience with this, I did not know very well what to expect. I speak no Mandarin, so I could not communicate, I would see what happened, and try to enjoy it.
I paid about 400RMB upon entry. Undressed in semi-public. Not so embarassing, I suppose everybody was there for the same reason as I was, whatever that may be.
Next, I was washed/scrubbed quite thouroughy by a man.
By a man! Well, it was not unpleasent, I felt quite clean, but it was not what I expected. I was asked to sign for a tip. Probably grossly overpaid.
Next I was given something to put on - asked to sign for a tip - and brought to some kind of waiting room, and given a drink. Other people where there, some smoked.
Next, I was brought to a corridor with massage rooms. The rooms had glass windows, and I good see nice girls, scantily dressed, but dressed, massaging the customers.
Was brought in a similar room. A nice young girl entered, encouraged me to undress, and guided me to a massage table. She did not undress. She gave me a long and energetic, maybe not very skillfull massage. Quite ok. I thought, well, this was it, not what I expected, but ok. She indicated in signs she would leave the room, and so she did. I guess she went to ask for instructions.
She returned with a bottle of massage oil, and with signs asked if this is what I wanted. I indicated yes. She also produced a condom which I had not notices. She covered the window in the door with a towel, undressed, and started an oil massage. She was actually a very nice young girl, but it was frustrating that it was barely possible to touch her. After a long massage, she indicated with signs if she shouls work wiht her mouth, I nodded and she bagan a good BBBJ. Quite nice. Still no touching or cuddling as everything happened on a narrow massage table. She then proceeded to FS, again everything quite distant. Did not go very well as my equipment did not perform as It should. She then again indicated her mouth, I nodded, and she gave me a quite nice, skillfull, but remote, BBBJ ending in CIM. According to the note she gave me the tarrif was 500 RMB, but she suggested to increase it to 600RMB, 100RMB tip for her I suppose. I agreed, as I suppose she did what she was supposed to do.
She then guided me out, as quickly as possible. To be honest, this suited me fine, as the deed being done, I also wanted to leave.
A strange experience. Satisfactory, as I received a nice massage, a nice BBBJ with CIM with a nice young thing. Not satisfactory, as it was very remote, no conversation possible, very clinical on a massage table, barely any touching, no kissing, certainly no GFE.
Not clear how to rate it. Well, if one can come in the mouth of a nice young thing, one should not complain, I suppose. I dont. But. Somehow, it was just clinical.
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I noticed the report on the Grand Bay hotel. I have never stayed there, but would consider it. However, on my last trip having read about the holiday resort hotel, I thought I would try it. Big mistake. I usually stay at the Harbor view hotel and will do so next time or the one just down the street from it the International hotel by the conference centre. The holiday resort hotel is overrated. Yes, you can have a masseuse come to your room. But that's it; don't expect anything other than a massage. It was an o.k. massage, a nice lady, but no intimacy and she seemed offended that I was on the bed totally nude and wanted me to cover up which I said no. The massage was pricey. I don't remember exactly, but what I did was have the foot massage downstairs in the spa area and the same lady come to my room for the body massage. That way I could decide who would be coming with me.
The next day I went to the spa at the Harborview and wish I had brought more cash with me. They had changed things a bit since the last time I was there. The receptionist had asked if I wanted a sex massage and quoted 800 RMB, I said no as I wasn't carrying that much cash with me expecting to pay only about 400 to 500 RMB inclusive of tip. Although it wasn't a full service massage, the lady was really nice, gave me an excellent massage and seemed to enjoy my caressing of her legs and made a point of letting me know that next time I come back, to ask for her. She was from Sichuan and had a wonderful touch.
I will be back in China the end of October and if there are any suggestions of where to go, please advise.
The sauna that offers extra are not located inside the hotel. It is a separate building. The hotel has like a extended golf cart to take you from the hotel to the sauna place. I think that's the sauna that most of us in this forum referring to. You do not need to stay in that hotel for the sauna since it's not in the centre of the action.
[QUOTE=Chopsuey]I noticed the report on the Grand Bay hotel. I have never stayed there, but would consider it. However, on my last trip having read about the holiday resort hotel, I thought I would try it. Big mistake. I usually stay at the Harbor view hotel and will do so next time or the one just down the street from it the International hotel by the conference centre. The holiday resort hotel is overrated. Yes, you can have a masseuse come to your room. But that's it; don't expect anything other than a massage. It was an o.k. massage, a nice lady, but no intimacy and she seemed offended that I was on the bed totally nude and wanted me to cover up which I said no. The massage was pricey. I don't remember exactly, but what I did was have the foot massage downstairs in the spa area and the same lady come to my room for the body massage. That way I could decide who would be coming with me.
The next day I went to the spa at the Harborview and wish I had brought more cash with me. They had changed things a bit since the last time I was there. The receptionist had asked if I wanted a sex massage and quoted 800 RMB, I said no as I wasn't carrying that much cash with me expecting to pay only about 400 to 500 RMB inclusive of tip. Although it wasn't a full service massage, the lady was really nice, gave me an excellent massage and seemed to enjoy my caressing of her legs and made a point of letting me know that next time I come back, to ask for her. She was from Sichuan and had a wonderful touch.
I will be back in China the end of October and if there are any suggestions of where to go, please advise.[/QUOTE]
[quote=biglauda]day 1 kl-macau-zhuhai
arrive early at klia with bro icecool. flight was delayed for about 30 minutes and as usual it was a boring flight. we landed at about 8pm and took a cab to gong bei. the fare was hk$73 even though we had only 1 carry-on bag each. (the immigration will take back the departure slip. the arrival slip should have been taken when you pass through immigration at the airport. when you pass through the china immigration you need to fill in 2 forms. one is the health declaration and the other is the entry form. look out for the counters where the forms are readily available and always remember to carry a pen. when queuing up remember to be on the correct lane. look out for foreign visitors sign on the overhead display board. only 2 lanes for foreigners. i speak some putonghua but icecool only cantonese. none of us read chinese characters but all signboards have english wording which makes our task easier).
we got through immigration in about 15 minutes. we headed to the underground shopping complex. (remember to look for red colored overhead sign board when inside the complex. it like a maze there. ) we followed the sign to lian hua lu (lhl). got out and immediately saw the bus station on the right. we just crossed the street and took the lane right in front of us. on the left and right you can see small shops selling electrical items and some eateries. you will have to cross the street for lhl. we checked into great aim hotel on the left facing the junction and the beginning of lhl (rmb395 per night). the heaven on earth disco is on the right. great aim hotel has 2 kinds of room. the smaller ones have the view of the street below. the bigger ones have the view of inner courtyard and come with 1 king size bed plus 1 single bed. it is new and nice but the feature in these rooms are the glass wall dividing the bed room and the shower. with one push of the remote control button you will be able to see the bathroom. when the screen is down you can only see the shadow of someone showering.
while waiting for our bro from we decided to venture on our own at lhl. it was about . on the way heading to the end of lhl, i was harassed by a few gals. the key here seems to be, eye contact with a smile. if you see any gal regardless of whether she is a streetwalker or not, just look them in the eyes and smile. if the gal is not keen she will look away. of course some gals just walk to you and grab your hand. we noticed the gong an going along lhl. the gals will run into the shops if they notice them coming in their bikes or bread truck. this seems to be the order of the day which makes the harassing bearable to a certain extent but lowered the quality of gals that we were hoping to score with.
our bro from ******** took us to a nice restaurant. later we sat at cabana at lhl until . we were harassed repeatedly. some are willing to have drinks with you just to be able to entice you to close the sale. unfortunately the gong an were there until quite late. icecool decided to take a syt about 19 years old. damn cute for rmb600 overnight. i took a 20 years old for rmb500 overnight. problems only cropped out later after the first bonk. she wanted to go out for dinner and i was keener to sleep. she insisted to go alone with my hotel key to let herself in after dinner which i rejected. she kept coming up with excuses like her period will be here soon etc. i told her she can leave now and i will pay her rmb200 for st rate. she refused so i threatened to call the hotel manager to negotiate with her if she keeps on harassing me. she backed down and went off to eat leaving my hotel key with me. the security later called to confirm that i will let her go out. she came back at about and hassled me to let her go by giving various reasons. i let her off by insisting on one more bonk. i refused to pay her taxi fare when she asked for it. what a bad start. icecool have a similar story but with a twist. anyway, interesting first day. it only gets better day by day. i notice the gals here are not too hygienic. most have bad breath and the gal i took did not exercise basic hygiene like washing up with soap after bonk or rinsing mouth with mouth wash/brushing their teeth after bj.
day 2 zhuhai.
icecool and i exchanged story over breakfast and then went shopping n walkabout. we decided to go for soapy massage at the spa behind 2 dragon-horse statute (i think it's called the jin yue hotel) next to china construction bank which is on the opposite side of the gong bei shopping entrance (left entrance. lhl is the right entrance). just look for the signboard and you will find the hotel. ask the hotel staff for direction to the sauna which can be difficult to locate.
the soapy massage is rmb350. you will get to choose the gal by photo album. you should insist on a parade. anyway i took a cute gal. it is for 1 1/2 hours. if you take a gal after 12am, they will let you stay in the room foc until tomorrow morning. an option for those who want to save on hotel charges. the room is similar with hotel rooms but smaller.
she will go though 18 steps.the first one is the cleaning process. soapy massage using her hand, breast, pussy and butt on your front and back.body including your foot and ah. your dicky will rub on her pussy on few occasion but no entry. after drying up she will use of her mouth to massage you with 6 items, front and back. i call it the marination process. she will start with milk, tea, ice, warm water, jelly and sweet. during this time she will ar and also bbbj you with the ingredients. she will insert her tongue into your ah followed by the sweet/jelly too. then she will let you have a long bbbj followed by a fj. worth a try.
we took our lunch there and after that went for drinks at lhl cabana. the weather was hot and humid. drinks costs rmb10-15 for coffee/tea/fruit juice. beer is expensive but try to go for bottles one. a jug is about rmb50 but avoid this coz its only about 3/4 full from the bad pouring. quite a number of solicitation from the walker but still low quantity and quality. the best thing about lhl cabanas is the view of syt gals shopping and streetwalkers.
we took our dinner at the water mountain restaurant on the 1st floor looking down on lhl. they have swings as seat. we meet up with our bro from ******** and a malaysian working there. icecool finally found a great gal from lhl and i took one of our singaporean bro's recommended fl. well, the syt fl costs rmb700 overnight and worth every yuan. finally a great gal with great attitude. i would rate this gal 7 for overall performance. she is more hygienic too. highly recommended.! great 2nd day.
3rd, 4th and 5th day report coming soon. it's on changpin and macau[/quote]
final chapter.
day 3 zhuhai-changpin
we started our day with a bonk before getting the gals packing. icecool was all smiles as he finally got a certain degree of satisfaction. it hit us that maybe the first day would not have turn out to be that bad if we did not bargain for a lower price for overnighter. too late now!
we took out breakfast at the dim sum restaurant facing gong bei. they have a nice view from the 1st floor. the weather was even warmer than yesterday. anyone going to zhuhai at this time, please make sure you pack shorts, t-shirt and flip-flop. we went for a final stroll in lhl before checking out for the trip north.
anyway last night there were more gals walking lhl and the quality were better. gong an seems to have taken the weekend off early. most gal we did not meet on our first night, came out on friday night and the place was rocking. there were even more gals shopping last night. great eye candy. we did manage to sit at the cabana with our malaysian friend and fresher gals approached us. anyway, that was last night and we were excited to leave for the unknown place, cp. the room at great aim hotel costs rmb 393 per night.
the taxi took us to cp in about 2 ½ hours. we checked into hui mei hotel after ditching miraton. miraton looks more impressive from the outside but our rooms in hui mei are really nice and big. no see-thru bathroom here but at least there is a long bath for “[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url]”. we met up with a bro from singapore who was willing to show us around.
we ended up in the spa at virgin hotel. it was not impressive. they gave us a room and started the gals parade. nothing fancy coz it’s saturday and the place was jammed pack. not much of a selection. icecool took a syt and i took one young lady with model looks and shape. after our soapy massage at zhuhai, some process here seems a bit tedious for us. in zhuhai there’s a massage bed in the shower. here you get a chair with your didi and ah exposed from below. the will wash your hair followed by washing you with her breast. ‘the special thing here is that the gal will lie underneath and ar/bj you. after drying up they will perform another massage (with talcum powder) on your back with her breast, butt and pussy. then you will be flipped over for massage on your chest followed by licking from top to bottom inclusive of your feet and fingers. icecool got his toe in the pussy and i got more than ar. more on that later. she will let you have fire and ice bj and luckily i’m able to withstand her furious mouth. she has the cfm looks and damn solid body. her breast looks a bit fake to me.
coming back to the ar. the gal was willing to stick her tongue really, really deep into my a hole (after spraying some mouthwash). you get a ticklish and minty burn in the hole. what came next was strange. she will insert a small vibrator (those egg shaped type u normally see in japanese porn) into your ah, then increasing and decreasing the vibration. for me, it’s not a feeling i would want to try again. not much enjoyment and i felt a bit violated (hehehe!). luckily i didn’t blow my “load” all over her. yucks! (remember to clear your bowel before going there).
after all these it’s more bbbj followed by various position for fj. the gal will announce the fj position’s name every time without fail and it’s a bit funny. anyway, blew my load and chatted with her until my final 10 minutes is up. the whole session is for 1 ½ hours. you pay the gal rmb300 and the rest rmb 248 to the spa. the spa in zhuhai and cp accept credit cards.
well, we rush back for a quick rest and off we went to amazon ktv. our bro managed to get the dj (pro not gro) to send over a van to pick us up. you gotta go early coz the crowd can be overwhelming.
the amazon ktv was impressive. it is huge and upon entry you will be able to see the main stage surrounded by table/booth for those who prefer the main hall. you will be lead to the “flower street” where all the gals will line up to your left and right. it’s like running a lap in the stadium and the only thing you have to be fast with is your sight and grabbing technique. you see a pretty gal you fancy, immediately grab her hand or else the person behind you will most likely do so. each mommy will have a few gals (5-10) and they will pull your over to show you the gal she is trying to promote. (the mommy will pull down the gro’s dress and show you her nipple). well i need two laps before i manage to grab 2 gals. on lap number one, icecool managed to get one so i pulled him along for another lap. one mummy pulled down the gal’s dress and icecool was hooked (sucks, he beat me to it. hehehe!). it is good to get 2 gals so that they can compete to see who will spend the night with you.. anyway, most newbies like us will hesitate to grab the gals coz the sheer quantity and quality will overwhelm you. i was stunned from the onset. some of the guys there have the dazed look (must be newbies). both of us decided there and then that we will spend another night in cp.
icecool took a tall gal with big boobs and another one with even bigger boobs. i took one syt with looks like rainie yang (taiwanese singer-i’m a sucker for cute gals) and another with innocent looks (gold dragon would have loved this one). for those going there for the very first time, grab as many gals as you want and decide before going to the room. you can reject the gals before going to the room. when most gals have been chosen, a new batch of gals will appear as replacement so don’t hang around there too long coz you will spend the whole night looking coz the next one is always better than the previous.
anyway to cut the story short we adjourned to the room. nice décor but a bit old. sound system a bit dated and song selection not as good as those in kl but hell, we didn’t go all these way to sing. anyway took about 4-5 bottles of red wine (7up as mixer) and at least 2 dozen bottles of beer. we ordered food for dinner and the bill came to about rmb500 per person (cheap for 3 guys and 6 gals plus the djs and mommies’ tips). we did the normal stuff there. talk nonsense, rub here and there and basically trying to figure out which gal for overnight. some gals tend to be pushy when reaching late night/early morning. they will say pay and let her go if you don’t intend to take her overnight. the fun part is when they start to out do the other.
anyway, the ktv have shows for you at the main hall just in case you are bored. that night it was a shaolin monk performing kung fu (monk in a ktv??? i’ll bet my kung fu “in bed” is definitely better than his, hehehe!). the night ended with our singaporean bro pissed drunk. all of us ended the session with some feng tau songs. the sad part was i had to let go the innocent gal (it was heart wrenching coz she said its her 7th day of work, sat with guys every night but didn’t manage to spend a single overnighter). promptly paid her rmb200 and i felt much better after the rainie yang look alike returned with her normal clothing. icecool was in the same dilemma but he settled for the tall cute gal with big boobs who was a bit tipsy after 3 glasses of wine only. the gal with bigger ones loses out. we took them for overnight (rmb800). the dj arranged a van for us and we went for roasted goose at 1am in the morning. it was a memorable supper coz the gals were lively. ended (and then started) the day with a bang. the gal was with me until quite late until we missed breakfast (last call 10.30am). the gal was quite hygienic. she bath me, bath herself, brushed her teeth, gargle her mouth and even took a dump before adjourning for bedroom activities (and yes, she washed up after dumping!). her skill is not as good as those spa gals but hey, it’s not everyday i get to bonk a 18 years old gal who looks like a celebrity. she has fair skin, long hair, nice firm boobs and a lovely shapely body. to my surprise this gal has butt so naturally i doggied her until i unload. with such a lovely gal to bonk i was really hard but due to alcohol, it took me almost 1 hour before cumming. both of us were drenched in sweat. it was also really hard to cum for the morning bonk too. she initiated the final bonk and i gave her an extra rmb10 as cab fare. for that i receive a fk and a reminder to call her.
day 4 chang pin (forget about zhuhai)
well, this was supposed to be the day we backtrack to zhuhai. it didn’t happen.
we “woke up” late and went for breakfast in miraton hotel. the dim sum was good. then we went window shopping and followed by foot massage in hua tai hotel. two hours of sheer bliss. the gals at this joint are available to be companion but you will have to negotiate with them for fj. you will have to pay the hotel the full day rate to take them out. they were fun but not pretty. anyway, the foot massage, removing earwax and extended hours cost only rmb100 per person. highly recommended and cheap.
we went back for a rest after browsing a dvd shop across the street. dvds are cheap here. the next ktv session came soon enough after dinner. the ktv is in virgin hotel. the set-up is better than amazon. the room is well decorated, modern with large screen and good sound system. it comes with a desktop computer just in case you need to do some surfing. anyway, i still prefer the gal picking system in amazon. in virgin ktv, you will get to see 7-8 gals in batches. the gals can be chosen and rejected foc before the 15 minutes is up. the quality of gals there are lesser compared to amazon (maybe bcoz it was sunday). i took 2 gals after viewing about 5-6 batches of gals, one syt (17 y.o.) who was quite “cool” in the beginning and the other from inner mongolia. the syt is tall, nice and soon became “warmer”.the mongolian was fair and lovely but her hands put me off coz it was slightly deformed. icecool took 2 gals too. the first one was chosen by me (i regretted it after taking a closer look). she has angeline jolie’s lips and looks like joey yung (hk singer). the other one was nice but forgettable. the session was in full swing in no time. it became wilder with icecool loosing his pants and me being stripped by my gals. this place is cheaper than amazon. there’s no show there . a sop ktv. we left earliercon icecool decided to go “shiong fei” the gals charges are the same in amazon (2,5,8). we went to a place opposite our hotel for supper. you can get those “swing seat” like in lhl.
well, the gal that i took was quite accommodating once we went into the hotel room. we took our shower together and the rest are pretty sop. she was very gfe. her body is well proportioned. boobs are quite a hand-full with slightly pinkish nipples. pussy is quite bushy but at least no armpit hairs. she was willing to ride me (not many gals do) aftyer bbbj. she was hygienic which is good. not much of body odour or bad breath.
unfortunately i had the similar problem like last 2 nights. took me about 1 hour plus before i came. that gal, like those before in day 2 and 3 complimented me for being so “powerful”. i rather have my short 40 minutes bonk since it was 2 am and have to wake up early for another bonk before taking my ride back to zhuhai that morning. all those bonking must have desensitized my little bro too. getting it up and maintaining the momentum is no problem, but i felt like having a heart attack coz i was pumping like “there is no tomorrow” to cum. when i do cum it was less fulfilling. well, at least i can try all the fj positions i can think of and made the gal scream in ecstasy.
the next morning was the same, woke up and had another bonk. the gal was well rested and her performance was even better. finally came after doggieing her for 15 minutes (it was like eternity, as i had to pound like 3-4 strokes per second). she was quite wet too. it’s great to have the news on the tv while fj. you can watch the latest news and see the time on the screen to benchmark your performance. lol. she was a gem. no complaints at all.
finally, packed my bags for checking out and paid her but she insisted to follow me all the way to the lobby. icecool’s gal left about the same time but didn’t manage to have a last look at “joey yung”. we bid farewell to the gal in the lift coz we stop at another level for breakfast.
bid farewell to our singaporean bro and left chang pin. arrived in gong bei 2 hours later. paid the fare which was rmb400. crossing over was a breeze.
day 5 macau.
we took a taxi from gong bei to sands casino. we looked around and then icecool tried betting on the blackjack table. it’s more like daylight robbery to me. since we have time, we took a cab to golden dragon hotel for the no.18 spa. it’s located in the hotel itself.
pretty sop. you can use a safe deposit box to lock up you valuables. they have large jacuzzi, steam room and sauna. there are some thai gals around soliciting for body scrub. we were ushered to an area for the show. it’s basically 4 gals doing a strip show on a overhead ramp. they are quite pretty with nice body and big boobs to entice you to go for fj. the show is about 3-4 minutes and then about 6-7 gals with the dancers will be lined in front of you to be chosen. most gals are quite impressive. i would rate them about 7-8/10. i guess it’s better to take one of the dancers because you have already viewed their ware. anyway i took a tall viet gal with huge boobs and shapely body. she has the cfm look but a bit mature. icecool took a prc. after you have chosen, the okt will take down your number. you can basically tell the okt when you would want to start your session. we headed for a meal. the place is huge. you can watch tv, surf the net, read some porn/mags, eat etc. pretty sop. the dining table comes with your own tv panel. being first timers, we omitted to check the price. we thought it was about macau $800-1000. upon reading the “menu” and confirming with the okt we found out that our package costs macau $1550.00 per person. actually, we hesitated not because of the price. we were afraid out little bros might not be able up to the task since we have been bonking with minimal sleep for the past 4 days.
soon, we were taken to our rooms. pretty standard room. you get a tv which have porn movies, massage bed in the bathroom and a normal bed. soon my gal came in and all those thought of my didi not up to the task disappeared. the viet gal got a nice curvy body, tall and 36d boobs. she is pretty. i would say she looks like monica bellucci. however she has big nipples and her skin was not as fair as those prc gals. pretty sop soapy massage. the best part was her massage was strong and she knows how to rub her pussy on your didi. my little head took over the big head and i felt like inserting bareback there and then. she gave bbbj while you were lying on your back and doggie style. her bbj was like 7/10. the bathroom and room came with heater so the long session was bearable unlike zh where you might freeze your little bro in the process.
we continued on the bed and the fj was out of this world. not gfe but technical to the point of extracting maximum pleasure. since she was trying so hard to make me cum, i returned her the favour. it was like wrestling with either one of us trying to pin the other down. it was brutal pleasure. what happened next was unexpected. she came. her pussy was flooded and she moaned so load that i’m sure anyone passing our room would be able to hear her. we sweated like we just came out of the sauna room. there was only one explanation for my good performance. too much sex! i was really struggling to cum. my didi performed magnificently and was stiff as a corpse for the 50 minutes fj(in case you are wondering how i timed myself, there was a clock on the wall). after a brief 5 minutes chat we got dressed (i guessed she timed herself too. the clock is there for a purpose u know. 1 hour 30 minutes and bye-bye next, please!). she said in putonghua that she really came before we left the room. she held my hand and gave me a fk before parting (the damned okt was staring at us).
after a light snack we headed off to the airport. it was about 10 minutes away by cab. well, icecool managed to chat with some prc gals while we were waiting for our flight. i was exhausted but a good trip.
sorry to all for posting changpin and macau fr here, but this fr it's a continuation of my journey beginning from zhuhai.
No offense to Brannoch, but however the hell the report on Grand Bay View Hotel
got Jackson's recommendation for ROD yet Big Lauda's did not is a fucking travesty
and a testament to how nonsensically the ROD recommendations are handed out...
I've made it a ROD myself.
J
PS. It's pretty lame to make your own post an ROD, Brannoch, ha ha ha...
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]No offense to Brannoch, but however the hell the report on Grand Bay View Hotel. I got Jackson's recommendation for ROD yet Big Lauda's did not is a fucking travesty and a testament to how nonsensically the ROD recommendations are handed out.
J[/QUOTE]Perhaps it is Admins way of trying to spur on the newbies, at least in posting terms a little and contribute even further, whereas BL already has a good number of posts under his belt, and therefore doesn't need the same encouragement.
But I also inclined to agree with your overall assessment.
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Greetings Gentlemen,
I can't possibly evaluate reports from all over the world on the accuracy of their content. My ROD recommendations (remember, anyone can recommend a ROD) are based soley on how comprehensively the report covers a subject.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Got a chance to hang out with Weelock and Mongerxx yesterday. Always a good time for me because visiting mongers means I make
a trip down to Lian Hua Road. The new talent on LHL was sizzling hot...I just love how every 1-2 weeks, there are at least 20-30
hot new gals, and I mean at least 7.5-8s in terms of the hot scale. About half my regular gals from LHL and other sources have
disappeared/gone back to their home village, so I realize I need to replenish my list of numbers every 3 weeks or so. I came up
empty on half a dozen numbers earlier this week and ended up playing "w hore-ific Russian roulette" again by getting a random
number from another monger earlier this week. He never tried this gal before, just kept her number for future purposes, ha...
She ended up being pretty good and I'll try to do her again later this week and post some pics. Also will have to fuck some of
the hot new LHL stock, too.
Ended up bringing W & M on a mini-sauna tour in ZH. The best part was watching Weelock use his minimal Cantonese skills combined
with maximal street mime skills to make jokes with the captains and girls, confusing everyone all around. You really should start
the "Weelock Street Mime Academy", ha ha...you're a crackup man. Anyway, we all ended up at one of my favorite saunas, the Xiangjiang
Hotel Sauna. Can't beat the 268 RMB (VIP card price) for 90 minutes service and fucking, everything included. I was able to talk to
the captain to give W & M discounts from the regular 328 RMB price by using my VIP card for their bills. M ended up getting two girls
for 90 minutes for 488 RMB. Now that's a fucking deal on fucking, my friends.
I went home because some folks have to work in the morning, ha ha...I'll let W & M add their own comments on how it went.
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Anyway, we all ended up at one of my favorite saunas, the Xiangjiang Hotel Sauna. Can't beat the 268 RMB (VIP card price) for 90 minutes service and fucking, everything included. I was able to talk to the captain to give W & M discounts from the regular 328 RMB price by using my VIP card for their bills. M ended up getting two girls for 90 minutes for 488 RMB. Now that's a fucking deal on fucking, my friends.
J[/QUOTE]J,
Now, glad Mx caught up with you. He's my buddy friend I brought to Zhuhai last time.
This Sauna sounds interesting. How do we connect because I am passing through too tomorrow night.
Care to leave me your contact on the PM here?
C.
Well, I am one to believe that the mo' Crazier the time, the mo' better time the time, ha ha...
Will be glad to hang out, chill, and/or go apeshit with you in ZH.
J
jkon666 @ yahoo.com
It seems like quite a few people don't really get where things are located, in a physical
sense, in South China. Here's a map that I used recently for another business
purpose that might give some of you out there an idea where the infamous
areas of South China mongering are. I've circled the most frequently mentioned
places.
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]It seems like quite a few people don't really get where things are located, in a physical
sense, in South China. Here's a map that I used recently for another business
purpose that might give some of you out there an idea where the infamous
areas of South China mongering are. I've circled the most frequently mentioned
places.
J[/QUOTE]
Exellent idea Johhny. "I can see clearly now" as the song goes lol
Just wondering what are the transport options from ZhuHai to ChangPing?
Big lauda's report indicated 2.5 hour cab ride for 400 RMB....I am travelling alone and am wondering if there are other options?
Diver69
[QUOTE=Diver69]Just wondering what are the transport options from ZhuHai to ChangPing?
Big lauda's report indicated 2.5 hour cab ride for 400 RMB....I am travelling alone and am wondering if there are other options?
Diver69[/QUOTE]
I'm going to Chang Pin from Zhuhai on 20th October, 2006. 1 other person will be travelling with me and we will take the same cab back to Zhuhai on 24th October, 2006.
The cab that we took previously was a 8 seater with only 2 of us. We came back to Zhuhai by a car which was faster by 1/2 hour.
We will be joining a group of 4-6 people from another forum for mongering and ktvs.
If you are interested, you can tag along and we will share the taxi fare.
[QUOTE=Diver69]Just wondering what are the transport options from ZhuHai to ChangPing?
Big lauda's report indicated 2.5 hour cab ride for 400 RMB....I am travelling alone and am wondering if there are other options?
Diver69[/QUOTE]In case you are travelling alone and cannot hook up with others, take the bus from Zhuhai's Xiang Zhou Bus Terminal to get to Chang Ping.
The one way fare is about 75 to 80 rmb but I forgot the exact amount.
It goes to Dongguan Town makes a quick stop and then to Chang Ping.
Xiang Zhou can be reached from Gong Bei by public bus from the main road (dual carraigeway) that runs parallel to LHL (Lotus road). I forgot the bus number but you can ask people there how to get on the bus to Xiang Zhou. There are actually two buses, aircon is RMB2 and non aircon is RMB1. Taxi will cost you about 40 - 50 rmb one way to xiangzhou.
The aircon bus is very comfortable and a great option if you are budget sensitive.
Can't tell you how happy I am to find this map. Been looking for it for the last 3 weeks. Helps the planning of my D-day a great deal.
It may make sense to add a section for maps in each mongering area. So little time so many pussies, as you know. What do you think?
What is the fastest and easiest way to go to Macau and ZHu Hai from Cheap Lap Lok airport?
It seems there should be ferry every hour or so?
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]It seems like quite a few people don't really get where things are located, in a physical
sense, in South China. Here's a map that I used recently for another business
purpose that might give some of you out there an idea where the infamous
areas of South China mongering are. I've circled the most frequently mentioned
places.
J[/QUOTE]
With all the activity that's gone on in the past few days, I totally forgot to mention
that the "two-dragon horses" sauna is closed for rennovation. I brough two other
ISG guys there, hoping to show them yet another affordable, excellent sauna option
in ZH, but only a young male waiter was sleeping on the couch. Some lights were
still on, but no front desk staff and no other semblence of people around. The guy
could have been lying, but I don't think so. Too bad, it was an excellent choice.
We then went to the Golden Port Massage Center down the street. There are two
buildings and the smaller, more run-down looking one is the full service place. After
checking out the girls there for the first time, I have to say there are some very
"interesting" looking girls, and I mean that from a physical anaomily standpoint...
oddly shapely head, irregular breasts, overly thin arms matched with plump legs...
ha ha, you name the odd combo, and there was some girl that matched it here.
Add to this the 338 RMB/90 min price and that the captain is a humorless oaf and
I don't think I could ever try this place out. There are a few nice looking gals and
they very well could give outstanding service, but, well, it's not going to be me
that finds out. I remember another member trying this place out a few weeks ago
and had a good time.
J
[QUOTE=Crazier]In case you are travelling alone and cannot hook up with others, take the bus from Zhuhai's Xiang Zhou Bus Terminal to get to Chang Ping.
The one way fare is about 75 to 80 rmb but I forgot the exact amount.
It goes to Dongguan Town makes a quick stop and then to Chang Ping.
Xiang Zhou can be reached from Gong Bei by public bus from the main road (dual carraigeway) that runs parallel to LHL (Lotus road). I forgot the bus number but you can ask people there how to get on the bus to Xiang Zhou. There are actually two buses, aircon is RMB2 and non aircon is RMB1. Taxi will cost you about 40 - 50 rmb one way to xiangzhou.
The aircon bus is very comfortable and a great option if you are budget sensitive.[/QUOTE]
Also, if you're already in Gongbei, no need to go all the way to Xiangzhou bus
station as there is a main bus station right at the beginning of Lian Hua Road
(keep walking towards the huge disco and the less-popular green umbrella
places...all the way at the beginning of this street).
The bus station and buses are cleaner at this station compared to Xiangzhou
Bus Station but all prices and schedules are the same.
J
Assuming you allready have a valid Chinese visa, take the train to Kowloon, it's about 90 HK dollars. Take a free hotel shuttle to the Gateway hotel, and then go to the Ferry Terminal to China. The last ferry to Zhuhai leaves about I think either 5:15 or 5:30 P.M. I can't remember exactly. That ferry will take you to the Ferry Terminal in Zhuhai where you can catch a cab to the hotel you want to stay at. I recomend the Harbor View. If you want to go to Macau, then you can walk across from the boder crossing. Or if you prefer to go to Macau first, the ferry service to Macau is more frequent, same spot as the ferry to Zhuhai. If you don't have a China Visa get one before you go otherwise you will be turned back at the border crossing.
I am still planning to go to Zhu Hai this weekend, possibly Sat-Sun. But was curious whether this being the national holiday there will be crackdowns. Any thoughts on this from the locals?
Also, I would appreciate some recommendations on good KTVs, and the price structure. Are there 1-3-5 ones? or are those too low in quality? I'd rather pay the 2-5-8 for quality then just going for the cheap prices. I would definitely appreciate it if someone would be kind enough to answer. Thanks all.
[quote=chopsuey]assuming you allready have a valid chinese visa, take the train to kowloon, it's about 90 hk dollars. take a free hotel shuttle to the gateway hotel, and then go to the ferry terminal to china. the last ferry to zhuhai leaves about i think either 5:15 or 5:30 p.m. i can't remember exactly. that ferry will take you to the ferry terminal in zhuhai where you can catch a cab to the hotel you want to stay at. i recomend the harbor view. if you want to go to macau, then you can walk across from the boder crossing. or if you prefer to go to macau first, the ferry service to macau is more frequent, same spot as the ferry to zhuhai. if you don't have a china visa get one before you go otherwise you will be turned back at the border crossing.[/quote]
to chop suey
there is another way hkia have high speed ferry to shekou shenzhen cost is about 240 hkd from shekou to zhu hai 100 rmb take 50 min every half an hr .
fast eddie 48
[quote=fast eddie 48]there is another way hkia have high speed ferry to shekou shenzhen cost is about 240 hkd from shekou to zhu hai 100 rmb take 50 min every half an hr.[/quote]along the same thinking as fast eddie, there is a direct ferry from hkia to macau, then take a cab to the zhuhai border, then walk into china! this maybe a tad faster because there is no waiting for the next ferry, but has the disadvantage of stamping your passport twice: in macau, then china.
[url]http://www.turbojetseaexpress.com.hk/e/sailing_schedule_fare_table.asp?vname=sailing_schedule_fare_table[/url]
(careful, there are separate ferries to shekou and the szn airport, get on the correct one if going to szn) i think cks goes to shekou while turbojet goes to the airport.
-m
I'm planning to take a bus to either Houjie or CP from Gongbei bus station - the one at the beginning of LHL.
I was wondering how would I know if the bus that I take from Gongbei bus station is a direct bus, or one that makes multiple stops?
I heard that in China, if one takes a bus from a large bus station such as Gongbei or Lowu, it is always a direct bus. Is this true?
I speak mandarin and I guess I can just ask the driver, but I don't trust them. The last time I took a supposedly direct bus from Shantou bus station to ZH, I asked the driver if the bus will stop at Gongbei bus station. He said yes, but I ended up in LongDu hotel. Well, it is still Gongbei, but not Gongbei bus station.
Thanks,
minkfan
[QUOTE=Minkfan1]I'm planning to take a bus to either Houjie or CP from Gongbei bus station - the one at the beginning of LHL.
I was wondering how would I know if the bus that I take from Gongbei bus station is a direct bus, or one that makes multiple stops?
I heard that in China, if one takes a bus from a large bus station such as Gongbei or Lowu, it is always a direct bus. Is this true?
I speak mandarin and I guess I can just ask the driver, but I don't trust them. The last time I took a supposedly direct bus from Shantou bus station to ZH, I asked the driver if the bus will stop at Gongbei bus station. He said yes, but I ended up in LongDu hotel. Well, it is still Gongbei, but not Gongbei bus station.
Thanks,
minkfan[/QUOTE]
All the buses from Gongbe bus station are pretty much "direct" although they
will stop for about 2 minutes in ZH to pick up some passengers and then one
more stop for 2 minutes outside of ZH. None of them are going to be wasting
lots of time with very frequent stops, so don't worry.
And for the most part, your "big bus station theory" is correct. The buses from
small bus stations usually are for local migrant laborers, so are lower quality
and stop more often.
J
[QUOTE=Crazier]In case you are travelling alone and cannot hook up with others, take the bus from Zhuhai's Xiang Zhou Bus Terminal to get to Chang Ping.
The one way fare is about 75 to 80 rmb but I forgot the exact amount.
It goes to Dongguan Town makes a quick stop and then to Chang Ping.
Xiang Zhou can be reached from Gong Bei by public bus from the main road (dual carraigeway) that runs parallel to LHL (Lotus road). I forgot the bus number but you can ask people there how to get on the bus to Xiang Zhou. There are actually two buses, aircon is RMB2 and non aircon is RMB1. Taxi will cost you about 40 - 50 rmb one way to xiangzhou.
The aircon bus is very comfortable and a great option if you are budget sensitive.[/QUOTE]Sorry guys, the taxi fare on the meter was 25 rmb to Xiangzhou one way.
JK.,
Sorry, did not have your tel number to call you on my quick one night stop. But, the LHL ladies were just too numerous this visit and a few really nice ones too.
My chase was a couple of cafe waitresses and damm, when she finally called me back, I was too drunk to pick up the phone in deep sleep and now, I am in CP, she is calling me endlessly.
btw, I notice a huge disco MOI on the way to XiangZhou. Have you checked out the place ever for FLs etc?
The bus station at the beginning of LHL as far as I know does not have a direct service to Chang Ping as far as my enquiries went this occasion as well as previously. Can you double check this for the benefit of others here? I certainly would like to know.
The only direct service between CP and Zhuhai is operated only once a day by Macau CTS Cross-Border Coach 0756- 8328936
Fm Gongbei to CP : HuiMei Hotel....once a day @ 58rmb.
Time taken : approx. 2.5hr
Timing : Fm Gongbei : 1700
Fm CP (hui Mei Hotel ) : 0845
The timings are poor but, its the only one I know.
Hi Johnnykon,
Looks like you are keeping up with the Zhuhai scene, I will be in China on Oct.12-18th, so lets do something if you are available. Please PM me ASAP.
[QUOTE=Go Joe]Hi Johnnykon,
Looks like you are keeping up with the Zhuhai scene, I will be in China on Oct.12-18th, so lets do something if you are available. Please PM me ASAP.[/QUOTE]
"We can fight for freedom wherever there's trouble, cause GI Joe is there...
GI JOE! Real American hero! GI Joe is there..."
Ha ha...ofcourse, I'd love to hang out.
J
I recently spent one night in Zhuahai. I started my evening out hanging on Lain Hua Lu road. This is a really fun place with all the outside cabana bars, people cruising around shopping and eating, and of course the plethora of playful street girls. The talent pool was significantly better in quality and numbers from my last visit. Most of the girls are very playful and friendly as they make there hard sale. When you pass on a girl she will give you a little piece of paper with her name and phone number. I gotta make better notes on those cards because I ended up keeping about half a dozen but I couldn’t remember which matched which girl.
Anyway I bypassed taking one of the street girls, as I met Johnnykon666 from ISG. He is a really great enthusiastic guy and he offered to give me a tour of reasonable price saunas. The tour was a real eye opener, as I was under the impression that outside of Da Ming naughty massage was more expensive in Zhuhai than Changping. Thanks to JK for setting me straight, and I agree with his assessment that in Zhuhai massage you get 95% the service for 50% the price! On our tour of about six places I thought that three where really worth visiting further.
Our first stop was at the Jin Yu Hotel. I believe this is on the continuation of LHL and a short walk away from the outdoor bars. Here we went to the 3rd floor and was ushered into one of the rooms. The rooms were actually very decent quality. You get a decent sized bedroom and then there is a glass wall separating the soapie table, shower, toilet bathroom area. Above the bed was the handrails where the girls come strap up the red ropes and do the red ropes treatment. We got shown two or three lineups of around 8 girls each. Not true stunners in my eyes, but lots of 7’s I’d be happy to fuck. Here the price was 298 RMB all in. A great deal for such a new nice room, red ropes and 90 minute session. Hell we were offered to sleep overnight in the room for free after the session! While I could have been happy to pull the trigger right there, I was more eager to continue the intel gathering mission
Our next stop was across the street at the Changan Good World Hotel. Here we entered the Sauna from the second floor. From my notes I see there is no red rope treatment here, and there are three classes of rooms. We sat in a real nice room that was 388 rmb all in. I believe this is the highest price room. Also, I liked the line up of girls here as well. Once again no super stunner but plenty of sevens I would have gladly picked
After visitng a couple of other places I didn’t think worth making notes about, we made our last stop at one of JK’s favorite Spot – Xiangjing Hotel Spa. Here we entered the Sauna from the seventh floor. The rooms were probably a half a step down from Jin Yu, but I liked the attitudes of the captain, the staff, and the girls here. Here they have the red ropes and the 90 minute session is 318 or 268 with a VIP card – all in. The captain also offered the ability to add a second girl for 200 RMB more with the second girl only sticking around for the first hour. We were show two line ups of about 10 girls each. I had spotted two 99 who had a 6.5 face and an 8 body to my type and 88 who was a cutie 7 but gave a real playful vibe. It was almost 2AM at this point and we took a long time discussing amongst ourselves. Since Johnny had to work in the morning, he left and said he would try and have them still honor us with the discount from his VIP card. As for me I said “Fuck it” and took two girls.
99 and 88 both were very playful and had great attitudes. We started off with me getting swashed off on the table and then a double girl soapie. Got some action in which one girl BBBJ while the other body massaged me with her boobs. Then they switched. While it wasn’t really GFE, the girls were very fun and decently skilled. Next we went to bedroom and they did all the exotic cat bathing, AR, and BBBJ with the various liquids. At one point I got put in the doggie position while one gave me AR and the other gave BBBJ. That’s was cool! At that point about an hour had passed and I expected I would have to pick one to leave. But lucky me that never came up and both girls stayed for the home stretch. So I finished up screwing them both in various positions. They weren’t interactive, but cooperative to an acceptable level. After I shot and was washing up, I realized in my tired and distracted state I forget to have then give me my first red rope treatment. Aaaaaargh naughty girls! Hehehe I was happy anyway.
Overall, I felt that this session wasn’t quite as skilled as the one I tried at Virgin Spa, and I got a real stunner at Virgin. But shit, the Virgin spa was in a smaller room and cost 598. Here I got a partial discount and my total cost for two girls was 488. What a deal, even though I was cheated out of my red rope. I was in good spirits and probably over tipped my girls 50 RMB each. I also went ahead an bought a VIP card for 50 RMB as well. I will be back often and I am sure it will more than pay for itself!
I am attaching scans of the business cards for these three massage places and one hand phone pic of the dynamic duo.
Executive summary: Soapie massage kicks ass and is very reasonably priced in Zhuhai.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
How close is Xiangjing Hotel to Good world , is it within walking distance or best to take cab ?
Hi fellow mongers,
At saunas such as Chang An Good World or JinDu, I was wondering if one can look at the lineup, and if it is good, stay, if not, walk out without paying a penalty? Or is it that once they bring you to a room, you're pretty much stuck with the place?
Also, can anyone recommend a good legit massage place? Do they provide a locker for your stuff and you change into a bathrobe? Or do you get the massage in your street clothes? I'm asking because things tend to drop out of my pockets.
thanks.
hope this helps...
I'm not too familiar with ZH.
minkfan
Arrive last night from Chongqing during the golden holiday very hard to get plane ticket to Shenzhen cost is over 1200rmb , So I got a late flight to Zhu Hai for 800 rmb arrive 11.pm head to Liu Hua rd find Tang Tang hubei girl with
a very hot body short time 200 rmb service very rush ,There are many girl around 12.30am last night .
Today spend the morning playing golf at the course near Tang Jia town after head to Ju Long Hotel entertaiment complex sauna on the third fl thank for advice by Night Dragon pick Li Li from Gulin red rope is avalible but serivce is just nothing like Shanghai or dongguan but service is ok with alot of kissing ,
licking and slurping with a long ar and bbbj.
number # 513 Li LI tall hot body 7
cost vip room with red rope 288
service tip 200 rmb
service bbbj ar red rope fs 7
vaule 8
facility 5
recommended
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Open to Explore]How close is Xiangjing Hotel to Good world , is it within walking distance or best to take cab ?[/QUOTE]
OTE,
From Good World Hotel, Xiangjing Hotel is about a 10 minute walk if you are a fast
walker (like me) or a 15-20 minute walk if you have a normal pace.
Better yet, take a 5 RMB pedicycle cab ride, you'll get an interesting street-level
view of things...that's how I love to travel around LHL area saunas and bars.
J
[QUOTE=Minkfan1]Hi fellow mongers,
At saunas such as Chang An Good World or JinDu, I was wondering if one can look at the lineup, and if it is good, stay, if not, walk out without paying a penalty? Or is it that once they bring you to a room, you're pretty much stuck with the place?
Also, can anyone recommend a good legit massage place? Do they provide a locker for your stuff and you change into a bathrobe? Or do you get the massage in your street clothes? I'm asking because things tend to drop out of my pockets.
thanks.[/QUOTE]
Minfan,
No problem with going to check out the girls at a sauna and then leaving if you
don't like any. Works better if you are with a group of guys, but even if you're alone
just walk out like it's your right, cause it is. Don't be intimidated, just keep walking
and ignore whatever they say. I do it all the time by myself and with visiting groups
of mongers/friends.
Most legit sauna places will offer you a locker in a big shower-type area for your
stuff and if you don't like changing/showering with other Chinese dudes, then you
can opt to change into PJs in your room and leave your clothes on the dressing
table in clear view. Either way is normal and not considered strange/weird by the
massage workers.
One huge semi-legit massage place that does brisk business is the "two hearts" place
that is minutes away from the Gongbei border crossing. If you are standing in front
of the Gongbei Port (your back is to the GB Port), then you'll be facing the massage
place. Looks slightly to your left and you'll see a large neon sign with two hearts.
Once you get there, you'll need to go up an escalator to the second floor and the
female captains will ask you what kind of massage. The foot massage is 30 RMB
for 1 hour and the body massage is 50 RMB for one hour. You can change in the
locker rooms, the entrance will be straight ahead. You can shower and store your
stuff or tell the captain in English "body massage (pantomime a body massage)"
if you don't know Chinese, or ask for "tai shi an moi" for Thailand style massage
which means body massage (this might actually include HJ, but I've never gotten
it nor pushed for it). The bonus is that you can stay overnight in the room for the
50 RMB fee, all inclusive. A great super-budget room. The rooms themselves are
small and feature only a sofa loveseat, sidetable, large massage table, and TV. No
actual bed or bathroom facilities (public facilities outside), but it'll do in a pinch
and can't be beat for safe, super-budget accomidations.
Hope this helps.
J
seems like i'm in a phase where i'm really into lhl gals now and less on sauana gals, so...
i had a chance to stroll down lhl a bit before and a bit after the national day holidays and there were so
many hot new gals, it was like a pussy buffet gone crazy. normally, i try to spread my stash of sperm and cash
sprinkled among lhl gals, sauna experiences, and the occasional freebie in zh, but it seemed like the success
ratio was so high recently, i just had to keep rolling my bets over. actually, i only got 2 numbers myself, but
lucky for me, weelock is like a colorful, fragrant flower attracting hordes of lhl gals like bumblebees, ha ha...
one of the first gals was xiao yin (?), a thickly built 19-year old cutie from jilin. it was weird, but she seemed
so happy to see me, even though i didn't get her number myself. awesome soft-but-firm body that only young gals
can have and big beautiful breasts that were more than a handful and real. she was very happy and playful the whole
time. face isn't the best, i'd rank her about a 5, but i think she is aware of this and compensates with super-service
with lots of sucking, rubbing, and the illusion that she is into the sex. great slow, sensual bbbj with a semi-ar
where she pays plenty attention to the balls and the area between the anus and the balls. she's even rubbing her
pussy on my legs while giving me the bbbj and i can feel her getting wet, which was a real turn-on. after fucking
like wild animals for a bit, i pulled out and put some lube between her breasts for a great breast-fuck session. she
was moaning and putting on a perfect act the whole time and when i was about to come, i pulled her head forward for
a bbbj but our weird position with me on top of her prevented it, but she gamely opened her mouth wide for
the money shot. unfortunately, having fucked 4 gals in two days, i didn't have much come to shoot out and it just
barely hit her chin, to her relief it seemed, ha ha...anyway, it gives you a good idea of how much she's willing
to "go the extra mile" in terms of great service. highly recommended for those who like big breasts, great bbbj,
and aren't too particular on a gal's face. judging based only on service, she is probably the best i've ever had
among lhl gals. i've nicknamed her "breast-tastic" and her number is 13631250*** (missing digits: the mark of
the beast is...) you can see her beautiful breasts in the pic below. her bra was really thin, so all her chest
"real estate" is real. this is the kind of experience that makes you forget about any bad sw experiences and keep
pushing your luck...so...
another gal was pretty fucking hot...like a porn star in the flesh...she was about 5'7, a voluptuous 120 lbs or
so, and firm-yet-soft grapefruit-sized 36d breasts. she is from chongqing in sichuan and had that sexy, pouty
type of face that's common among the hotties there. see pics below of her fantastic body and luscious breasts. she
wasn't cooperative with pics and these were the only really clear ones. you can see her signature look is the string
of purple color and the string of pink color in her hair, besides her great body. the kind of annoying thing was
she has kind of a ***** personality but i guess it is mostly a ploy. do the majority of customers like this kind of
fake "troublesome/pouty/bitchy" girl where she pretends to be a pain in the ass and you have to be nice to her and
"win" her over?? after kind of making fun of her in a light-hearted way consistently throughout her visit to my apt,
i could see her trying to hide the occasional laugh or smile. anyway, her service was pretty good, with an excellent
bbbj including loud slurpy sounds with simultaneous ball tickling and compliant to try any type of sexual position.
her beautiful big breasts are great to hold onto and play with while fucking her too. and did i mention that she
shaved herself?? ha ha...after fucking for about 25-30 minutes in various positions, she basically jumped on top of
me and it felt like she was fucking me with the intensity and ferocity she displayed. her service is definately on
a "making you come as fast as you can" but if you can control yourself to a certain degree, it's actually very
enjoyable and recommened. i get excited just thinking about her and the ability to call over at almost anytime.
i don't even know her name, actually, just use the typical "you" whenever i talk to her. her mobile: 13**3439908
(missing digits: what is yao ming's uniform number?)
i fucked another 4 or 5 lhl girls these past 3 days but nothing great enough to report on, so i won't write about
them. one thing that i will write about is meeting a pedicab taxi driver one night. she was a semi-attractive hunan
(is it me or is 40% of guangdong pro's from hunan, 40% from sichuan, and 10% from random places in north china?)
and while peddling me to my destination, she introduced her list of hunan gals that she pimps part-time for.
well, i definately love trying these alternative sources of gals, and it was a good thing i tried it out. weelock
wanted some gal with big breasts and she sent over this tiny gal who was barely 5' but had some nice fist-sized
breasts. weelock had a decent time with her but didn't seem like it was memorable. she was really cute in my eyes,
so i had her come over to my place a few days later and what followed was about 2 hours of the best gfe i've
had in a long long time...this girl apparently used to be a restaurant waitress in hunan, then came to dongguan
to work as a factory grunt, then to guangzhou as a foot massage girl, then finally to zhuhai to work as a sw.
with each job was a slight bump in money earned and nowadays, she said she could earn in one night what she used
to make in one month in any of the other jobs, but that's not saying much, anywhere from 450-600 rmb on a good
night to 200-350 on an ok night. she said that she doesn't love being a sw, but in general, it's not as bad as
she thought and most of her customers were nice to her, especially the foreigners. she really enjoyed the sex
too and it was nice to see her facial expressions while i gave her daty and while she climaxed with her on top
of me. overall, a great great experience that i've repeated twice already. again, i realized that i refer to her
as "you" in our conversations, so no name, but here's her number: 134179259** (missing digits: there's a common
gas station in california, and i think other states, too, that uses two numbers in its name)
after half a dozen great lhl / zhuhai sw experiences in a row, i must say that the common theme is the ability
to talk and joke around with the girls in mandarin makes a huge difference between mediocre service and fantastic
service. i think it just comes down to making the girls comfortable and giving them some semblence of "knowing"
a guy instead of just fucking a random penis. i paid all the gals the standard fee of 200 rmb for st plus an extra
15 - 20 rmb taxi fee for coming to my apt. you don't have to watch the clock and just assume that it will about
an hour plus shower time, give or take 15 minutes. also, another strange detail is that every gal told me that national
day was terrible in terms of customer-numbers. for some reason, there didn't seem to be that many mongers visiting
zhuhai or i guess there might have been a lot of mongers but they were all with their wives, ha ha ha...well,
this is the theory from these gals i spoke to, anyway.
have fun out there in zh and stay safe.
j
Can anyone help and inform of getting an apartment in Zhuhai. Thinking of making it into a pad.
[QUOTE=Crust]Can anyone help and inform of getting an apartment in Zhuhai. Thinking of making it into a pad.[/QUOTE]
Can you clarify what you mean, Crust? Are you looking for an apartment for just
yourself to live, a "bachelor pad"? Do you want to make it into a general use "monger"
pad where everyone contributes to the cost?
And what's your budget and location preference? The idea of a monger pad sounds
pretty cool and I'd definately chip in for something like that. My estimate is that
you can get a 400-500 square foot room in the Gongbei area closeby to Lian Hua
Road for about 1000-1200 RMB per month.
J
Many thanks to bro Sinka*****an for taking his time off to accompany me for an outing in Zhuhai a fortnight ago. Yup! It was really good to be in Zhuhai again. Meet up bro Sinka*****an and JohnnyKon666 at the Shui-shan (Water Mountain) restaurant which features swing seats by the window with a commanding view overlooking the action at Lian-Hua-Lu. Really envy both of them as they are based here in Zhuhai on a long term.
After dinner, we had a walk along Lian–hua-lu. Not surprisingly we are all approached by FL PRC one after another. Even though we declined their service, the PRC were quite happy to pass on their hand phone number to us for us to follow up with them next time. Rate are at standard rmb 200 for ST. Next, we moved on to Yue–hai lu as we make our way towards the the Yue-hai hotel. Similarly we were approached by a few FL PRC. Bro JohnnyKon666 did mention to me that the ST rate for FL PRC along this road is lower at rmb150 for ST.
Once we reached the corner adjacent to the Yue–hai hotel , we were suddenly approached by over half a dozen FL PRC. Four of the FL PRC surrounded bro JohnnyKon666 . He is a very popular guy for many of the FL PRC over there. They all recognized him as one of their favourite client and therefore all rushed to seek his attention again. At the same time both bro Sinka*****an and myself was held on by a FL PRC each. A pretty PRC held on hard onto my hand as I walked away. She is petite and SYT with nice round bright eyes. I would not have mind taking her for a ST as she was really putting some effort into marketing herself to me . Got a glimpse of her boobs when she lowered her blouse slightly for my eyes! However I have to let her go as I have already fixed an appointment with another FL PRC for an overnight session. Anyway took her name card for future reference.
Next we adjourned to a coffee shop where I get to meet a Mr C from Malaysia whom is also regular cheongster based in Zhuhai as well. Later PRC Jing Jing joined us and bro Sinka*****an introduced her to me . Found Jing Jing in person to be slim, petite and pretty with her long hair and very fair skin complexion. Although she appears shy , probably because meeting all of us for the first time , she is indeed very friendly and soft spoken.
After the supper , I took Jing Jing back to my hotel in Lian Hua Lu. In the room , we helped each other to undress. I was very delighted to see her very fair slim body and her size B boobs with pink nipples. After taking shower , we quickly got onto the bed and cuddled up and share each other warmth . Felt so nice and comfortable cuddling with her as we watch the tv first . While watching TV together, she placed her hand on my didi massaging it all the time . Not surprisingly my didi was erected solid hard most of the time while watching the TV love story programme with her for about an hour.
Immediately after the TV show ended, I made my move first . I got Jing Jing to turn over on the bed with her back facing up. With such a nice smooth body, it will be a waste if I did not leave my cat lick massage mark all over her. Slowly starting from her ears, I licked my way down her neck, hand , back , ass and legs treating her like a fragile princess. She did not show any resistance as I spread open her bums and gave her an AR…then without any warning I gave her pussy a DATY as well from her back. That really drove her sexcited as she moan loudly without control. Can taste already the flow of her love juice from her pussy.
Quickly turned her over to the front and continue to kiss her face and lick her body. I concentrate hard to hold on onto her boobs and suck onto her pink nipples. This drove her wild as her nipples are very sensitive to being sucked. I carried on downward and gave her a long and satisfying DATY. Her pussy was beautiful glistering pink without much hair and a very clean taste. After some time , it was already fully saturated with her love juice ready for more hot action.
Next it was her turn to service me. Started with a kiss, she proceed to cat lick my neck, body , nipple and legs . Thereafter she grab hold of my already erected didi and gave my didi a slow and nice BJ. It was indeed nice to watch a pretty face PRC giving my didi a BJ. It is best as she alternate between sucking and licking my didi like a lollipop. At my request, she extended her BJ solely for my pleasure. Later I return favour to her by DATY her as she BJ my didi in the 69 position.
By then my testosterone was already sky high and my didi was ready to ejaculate. We tried FJ in various position starting with cowgirl followed with missionary then doggie. It felt so comfortable and tight as I doggie her with her first on her four and then shift to her lying flat on the bed. Finally we finished off in missionary position again with her legs placed high over my shoulder as I pumped my didi continuously into her wet pussy. In this position I get was sexcited viewing her pretty face moaning with agony and pleasure. It did not take long before my throbbing didi achieved climax and ejaculated my warm cum continuously into her moist pussy. It was a enjoyable FJ.
Thereafter we just cuddle each other and went to sleep. The next morning we had another enjoyable FJ session before breakfast. I was damn exhausted after that session. Overall it was nice and enjoyable overnight session with a pretty and soft spoken Jing Jing. Would indeed like to engage her again as my social escort when I go to Zhuhai again next time. Thanks again to bro Sinka*****an again for introducing freelance PRC Jing Jing to me.
Freelance PRC : Jing Jing from LiaoNing, Dong Bei
Body : Petite ,slim and pretty: Very fair smooth skin as well.
Boobs: Size B with pink nipples; I love it!
FK: Only petty kisses
BJ: Good.
DATY: Yes! Not much hair and very clean taste
FJ : Excellent ! Accommodating in all positions
GFE : High 8/10 Enjoy her soft spoken appearance . No rush at all.
Cost : Rmb700 for overnight session
WIR : Yes! Will call on her again when in Zhuhai next time
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Hey All,
I was just thinking, does anyone in Zhuhai (or out of Zhuhai) want to chip in
for a sex pad? The more I thought about Crust's idea, the more it made sense.
As it is now, I really have to sweet talk and convince the LHL gals I won't kill
them before they come to my apartment, and it's only a 5-10 minute taxi ride
from LHL. With a fuck pad, they will come for sure and I don't have to pay them
taxi money, ha ha...
My estimate is that we should get about 5 "investors" total and it will cost about
100 USD total for each person for 6 months of apartment usage. I'm thinking of
a 1-bedroom place minutes from LHL with a nice bed, plenty of sheets and towels,
and regular clean up service by a maid. Since I live in ZH most of the time, I can
take care of all these details. I've done this kind of deal before in GZ and it worked
out great.
Let me know who's in via post or PM. Depending on how serious people are, I can
begin looking for suitable rooms this week and emailing pics to you guys.
J
Macau Airport to Zhuhai:
After clearing customs, I headed to the row of travel booths to book a hotel room and was quoted RMB700 for a big room/Da Fang at the Zhuhai Holiday Inn. The travel booth staff then told me that it would be cheaper to book at a travel agency in Zhuhai. Out of goodwill, I bought a shuttle ticket from them at RMB 25. Waiting time was about 5 minutes before the shuttle had enough passengers to leave for the border crossing.
Alternatively, one can take the ‘AP1’ public bus or a taxi.
Zhuhai Hotels:
After crossing the border, it was a short walk to the underground mall, many travel agencies there. I followed the directions to Jin Ye hotel and stumbled into the ‘Zhuhai Travel Agency’, was quoted RMB500+ for a small room and RMB660 for a big room at the Holiday Inn (all inclusive weekday rates). One can also book directly at the hotel but I checked out four hotels and the travel agency always had better rates. BTW, the hotels didn’t have any problems with me previewing the rooms before booking.
If you book the hotel room in-person at the travel agency, they will usually ask you to pay cash in advance. But I found this arrangement to be less than ideal as the receipt is issued by the travel agency and not the hotel (talk about consumer rights). It turns out that you can book through the travel agency and get the discounted rates but pay the travel agency via the hotel in cash or by credit card.
Based on my limited mandarin, I believe this is how they group their rooms:
a) Small Room with twin beds / Xiao Fang
b) Big Room with king bed / Da Fang
c) Suite / Tao Fang
Holiday Inn Hotel / Jia Re Jiu Dian – My favorite hotel; the big room comes with a king bed and sofa. Nice décor and everything looks new. But do book in advance, I stayed one night and then found that I couldn’t extend as it was fully booked for the rest of the week.
International Hotel / Guo Hui Jiu Dian – Big convention hotel, felt somewhat old and impersonal. Got a Hao Hua Da Fang/ Grand Big Room (a cross between a suite and big room) with a nice sea view for RMB 700/night (weekend rate, RMB600/night for weekdays). The room was really quite big with a king sized bed and 3-piece sofa set but the soundproofing needs work; could hear people talking as they walked by, guess they could hear me at night too, LOL.
Wang Fu KTV:
I spent most of my time at Wang Fu KTV; think they call KTVs, ‘Ju Le Bu’ in Zhuhai. Wang Fu KTV is located in the row of buildings next to the Bank of China building and Yindo Hotel. The place opens around 6.30pm, supposedly earlier than most KTVs. Wish I had more time, would have checked out the Sunshine KTV at Holiday Inn and the one at Du Jia Chun.
System – There’s a mamasan or assistant mamasan who attends to you and brings the ladies. Think there are several teams of ladies here, each headed by a mamasan and 2-3 assistant mamasan. The assistant mamasan who attended to me would always push for her team first but was quite good about bringing the other teams’ ladies when I wanted to see more. Still, I couldn’t be sure that she was showing me the best from the other teams. Apart from the mamasan, there’s also a waiter or waitress but don’t recall a DJ as mentioned in the Changping KTV reports.
Ladies – The selection here is only passable but there are gems to be found; took me quite a few line-ups but found three ladies (ratings: 7, 7.5 & 8) who were all quite GFE including one hot pixie with whom I spent a few days. I won’t be naming these ladies for personal reasons except for Fang Fang from Hunan whom I rated a 7; kinda flat-chested but quite pretty and innocent looking, very GFE if you treat her right. There was also this girl whom I quite liked but didn’t have enough time to take out, think her name is Yan Zhi from Guangxi; a bit skinny but really fun once you ply her with alcohol.
Cost – About RMB500 for a small room (forgot the exact sum). RMB200 for a lady to sit with you and RMB1000 (includes the RMB200) for overnight till 12 noon the next day. If you like the lady, you can extend for another day for RMB1000 (can probably negotiate but keep in mind that the KTV ladies have to pay RMB300 to their mamasan if they don’t turn up for work). The room charges can be put on the credit card at no extra cost but for the overnight fee, additional RMB100 surcharge for credit cards. BTW, the credit card statement will indicate ‘Wang Fu Nightclub’.
Tipping – I’ve never been sure about how much to tip the mamasans, I suppose it differs depending on the city. My standard tip was RMB300 to the mamasan and RMB50 for the waiter. Perhaps the more experienced mongers could shed some light on this.
Conclusion – Not a bad KTV but I really was expecting a better selection of ladies. Having spent several days going thru multiple line-ups at Wang Fu, I have to say that the quality is only marginally better compared to Lian Hua Lu.
This trip to Zhuhai has truly opened my eyes to the exciting mongering possibilities in China. I’m keener on exploring the KTV scene and will be headed to either Changping or Houjie on my next trip. Quite a tough call with contrary reports on several boards, Changping seems to be the more popular destination but Houjie reputedly has the best looking ladies. I’m more focused on quality rather than quantity so it does seem that Houjie might be the better fit. I would greatly appreciate input on this.
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Many thanks to bro Sinka*****an for taking his time off to accompany me for an outing in Zhuhai a fortnight ago. Yup! It was really good to be in Zhuhai again. Meet up bro Sinka*****an and JohnnyKon666 at the Shui-shan (Water Mountain) restaurant which features swing seats by the window with a commanding view overlooking the action at Lian-Hua-Lu. Really envy both of them as they are based here in Zhuhai on a long term.
After dinner, we had a walk along Lian–hua-lu. Not surprisingly we are all approached by FL PRC one after another. Even though we declined their service, the PRC were quite happy to pass on their hand phone number to us for us to follow up with them next time. Rate are at standard rmb 200 for ST. Next, we moved on to Yue–hai lu as we make our way towards the the Yue-hai hotel. Similarly we were approached by a few FL PRC. Bro JohnnyKon666 did mention to me that the ST rate for FL PRC along this road is lower at rmb150 for ST.
Once we reached the corner adjacent to the Yue–hai hotel , we were suddenly approached by over half a dozen FL PRC. Four of the FL PRC surrounded bro JohnnyKon666 . He is a very popular guy for many of the FL PRC over there. They all recognized him as one of their favourite client and therefore all rushed to seek his attention again. At the same time both bro Sinka*****an and myself was held on by a FL PRC each. A pretty PRC held on hard onto my hand as I walked away. She is petite and SYT with nice round bright eyes. I would not have mind taking her for a ST as she was really putting some effort into marketing herself to me . Got a glimpse of her boobs when she lowered her blouse slightly for my eyes! However I have to let her go as I have already fixed an appointment with another FL PRC for an overnight session. Anyway took her name card for future reference.
Next we adjourned to a coffee shop where I get to meet a Mr C from Malaysia whom is also regular cheongster based in Zhuhai as well. Later PRC Jing Jing joined us and bro Sinka*****an introduced her to me . Found Jing Jing in person to be slim, petite and pretty with her long hair and very fair skin complexion. Although she appears shy , probably because meeting all of us for the first time , she is indeed very friendly and soft spoken.
After the supper , I took Jing Jing back to my hotel in Lian Hua Lu. In the room , we helped each other to undress. I was very delighted to see her very fair slim body and her size B boobs with pink nipples. After taking shower , we quickly got onto the bed and cuddled up and share each other warmth . Felt so nice and comfortable cuddling with her as we watch the tv first . While watching TV together, she placed her hand on my didi massaging it all the time . Not surprisingly my didi was erected solid hard most of the time while watching the TV love story programme with her for about an hour.
Immediately after the TV show ended, I made my move first . I got Jing Jing to turn over on the bed with her back facing up. With such a nice smooth body, it will be a waste if I did not leave my cat lick massage mark all over her. Slowly starting from her ears, I licked my way down her neck, hand , back , ass and legs treating her like a fragile princess. She did not show any resistance as I spread open her bums and gave her an AR…then without any warning I gave her pussy a DATY as well from her back. That really drove her sexcited as she moan loudly without control. Can taste already the flow of her love juice from her pussy.
Quickly turned her over to the front and continue to kiss her face and lick her body. I concentrate hard to hold on onto her boobs and suck onto her pink nipples. This drove her wild as her nipples are very sensitive to being sucked. I carried on downward and gave her a long and satisfying DATY. Her pussy was beautiful glistering pink without much hair and a very clean taste. After some time , it was already fully saturated with her love juice ready for more hot action.
Next it was her turn to service me. Started with a kiss, she proceed to cat lick my neck, body , nipple and legs . Thereafter she grab hold of my already erected didi and gave my didi a slow and nice BJ. It was indeed nice to watch a pretty face PRC giving my didi a BJ. It is best as she alternate between sucking and licking my didi like a lollipop. At my request, she extended her BJ solely for my pleasure. Later I return favour to her by DATY her as she BJ my didi in the 69 position.
By then my testosterone was already sky high and my didi was ready to ejaculate. We tried FJ in various position starting with cowgirl followed with missionary then doggie. It felt so comfortable and tight as I doggie her with her first on her four and then shift to her lying flat on the bed. Finally we finished off in missionary position again with her legs placed high over my shoulder as I pumped my didi continuously into her wet pussy. In this position I get was sexcited viewing her pretty face moaning with agony and pleasure. It did not take long before my throbbing didi achieved climax and ejaculated my warm cum continuously into her moist pussy. It was a enjoyable FJ.
Thereafter we just cuddle each other and went to sleep. The next morning we had another enjoyable FJ session before breakfast. I was damn exhausted after that session. Overall it was nice and enjoyable overnight session with a pretty and soft spoken Jing Jing. Would indeed like to engage her again as my social escort when I go to Zhuhai again next time. Thanks again to bro Sinka*****an again for introducing freelance PRC Jing Jing to me.
Freelance PRC : Jing Jing from LiaoNing, Dong Bei
Body : Petite ,slim and pretty: Very fair smooth skin as well.
Boobs: Size B with pink nipples; I love it!
FK: Only petty kisses
BJ: Good.
DATY: Yes! Not much hair and very clean taste
FJ : Excellent ! Accommodating in all positions
GFE : High 8/10 Enjoy her soft spoken appearance . No rush at all.
Cost : Rmb700 for overnight session
WIR : Yes! Will call on her again when in Zhuhai next time
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[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Can you clarify what you mean, Crust? Are you looking for an apartment for just yourself to live, a "bachelor pad"? Do you want to make it into a general use "monger" pad where everyone contributes to the cost?
And what's your budget and location preference? The idea of a monger pad sounds
pretty cool and I'd definately chip in for something like that. My estimate is that
you can get a 400-500 square foot room in the Gongbei area closeby to Lian Hua
Road for about 1000-1200 RMB per month.
J[/QUOTE]That is a nice idea of sharing. I am am all for it.
One suggestion - if we are to have 'investors', I think we need a little bigger place.
[QUOTE=Golddragon]Freelance PRC : Jing Jing from LiaoNing, Dong Bei
Body : Petite ,slim and pretty: Very fair smooth skin as well.
Boobs: Size B with pink nipples; I love it!
FK: Only petty kisses
BJ: Good.
DATY: Yes! Not much hair and very clean taste
FJ : Excellent ! Accommodating in all positions
GFE : High 8/10 Enjoy her soft spoken appearance . No rush at all.
Cost : Rmb700 for overnight session
WIR : Yes! Will call on her again when in Zhuhai next time
[/QUOTE]Hi Golddragon,
Trying to request for her contract number through PM but could not get through.
Care to share
GlenEagle
There's no real point or time to include reports for all the gals I do nowadays, so unless something weird/interesting
happens, I'll keep it quiet. I feel like I'm repeating most stuff now anyway.
So last night after a long work day and a late-night workout, I got a massage at my usual place. I'm not a regular HJ
massage guy, so I'm not really sure how they really work and how agreesive you need to be with the gals to make them
start the service. I got a body massage for 1 hour (25 RMB) and it helped to work the stiffness and soreness out of the
body...not a great massage, but adequate. But one thing she did for about 10 minutes near the end was "rub my stomach"
(literal translation of her Chinese) which was to lightly run her fingertips and nails all over my stomach chest and
nipples. It was pretty erotic and nothing accidental about her hand regularly bumping into the raging hard-on in my
pajama shorts while rubbing the lower part of my stomach. Mid-stomach rub, the phone rang and the massage girl seemed
happy when I extended for another hour. She continued rubbing my stomach/chest/nipples and I asked her what she was
doing and she used some phrase I don't understand to describe her actions and said it was very "soothing and relaxing".
I wanted to add that it would be more soothing and relaxing with her mouth on my cock, too, but I am a regular at this
massage place and I don't want to get some unwanted reputation here while risking something that may/may not be on the
menu. After the two hours, I paid the 45 RMB and went home to some blissful, deeply restful sleep.
In thinking about this afterward, it was a good thing there was no HJ because I've been fucking too much recently and
I feel like I was almost out of ejaculate, seriously. The night before, after fucking a LHL girl for about 30-40 minutes
non-stop, she couldn't take it anymore and neither could I. I was bored and tired and just let her go without finishing.
So, after this non-sex night, I decided to take advantage of my reloaded cock and balls the next day.
There's this one gal that Weelock got the number for while sitting on one his his 4-5 hour marathon "girl watching" sessions.
He raved about her as better than sliced bread, sweet than honey, and prettier than the last girl he said the same shit
about, ha ha...This girl even had a Chinese/English name, An Ji/Angie, which probably meant that she had been successful
with foreigners, and after seeing/fucking her, I stand by this judgement. First of all, it was damn impossible to get a
hold of this gal because the mamasan kept cock-blocking me if I didn't take her all night (cost: a cool 1000 RMB). I rarely
take gals overnight and I wasn't going to do it without trying her out first. FINALLY, after 4 days of cock-block, I got
her to come for a fuck...during lunchtime. Ha ha, why not, it's 2 hours of time I usually waste anyway and it'd be something
new to try.
She came over pretty quickly by taxi (all LHL have never taken a public bus in ZH, ever, or they just flat out refuse to)
and we were fucking within 5-10 minutes of meeting. She's a small, thin, petite gal, pretty in an delicate, angelic way,
but not really the kind that rings my bell. She looks good, but I wouldn't have gone ga-ga over her if I saw her on the
street and maybe wouldn't even pick her. About 5'3, from Jilin (been on a Jilin-gal streak recently which is weird), thin
but not too-thin body, small 32A or B less-than-handful breasts topped with sweet little pink nipples, and semi-spacy
attitude like she isn't quite there, or maybe it's her way of dealing with fucking so many random guys.
Shower was nice and professional and this is where I chat up the gals, wash them gently, and play around to try to get
them relaxed. On the bed, she gave decent body kissing with nipple licking and a longer-than-expected BBBJ at about 5
to 10 minutes with no spitting. She put on the condom and rode me cowgirl for a while before requesting missionary,
then side entry, doggie, then finish with me missionary. Good, standard fuck from a SW. One thing I noticed is that a
lunchtime fuck actually perks me up instead of relaxing/tiring me down like night fucking. Anyway, paid her 200 + 20 taxi
and she left. She was relatively cooperative with pics but no nude/underware pics including her face. Posted below are
the best I have. One shows her interesting underware that was nice and sexy; you just pull the strings from both hips and
you could just rip off the underware. You can also see her doing some kind of practiced pose, which is pretty interesting
and shows me she may have done some lower-ended modeling bofore or just spends lots of time pretending she does lower-end
modeling. I can see how some of you out there would go apeshit of her looks, which explains why it was so damn hard to get
a hold of this gal. Mobile of mamsan: 132***58286 (missing digits: the most renown, but not necessarily the best, car race in
the USA is the Indy ____)
My ratings on Angie:
Face: 7 (not a fan of rounder faces or whitening foundation/make-up)
Body: 7.5 (I like more meat on them bones)
Service: 7
Enjoy and stay safe out there.
J
so after having rtff, i decided to venture into the wonderful china mongering scene. i'm a new arrival in hk, having been here only about 3 months. i've been to macau once with a non-mongering friend for a few hours. i speak maybe all of 5 words in chinese, all of which i learned on this forum, and i'm an asian-american, so keep that in mind when you read this report.
i was debating between shenzhen and macau-zhu hai for a while, but decided on macau-zhu hai because of its relatively smaller size, wonderful reports by jk, and being able to use english (at least in macau). when the weekend of 9/30 came i was excited as a bunny. however, i got stuck at work, and ended up leaving at around 10 pm. i almost decided against it, but boy am i glad i went.
i went off to the shun tak center carrying only a backpack, my passport (with a 6-month china visa affixed), change of underwear and shirts, and hkd10,000 in cash (i know, it was too much looking back, but back then, i wanted to party, and i heard macau was expensive. plus, i wanted to gamble a little bit as well.)
the first thing i did at shun tak was to buy a macau sauna package. i debated between darling 1 and 18 sauna, but after speaking with an agent at one of the numerous places that offer sauna packages, i learned that the border crossing between macau and zhu hai closes at midnight, opening again at 7 a.m., which would have made it impossible for me to go to zhu hai that night (it was already 10:30 pm). so i decided on 18 sauna, which apparently has a sleeping area and free food, whereas darling 1 doesn't. i figured i'll bide my time at the sauna until the border opens. paid hkd1450, took the ticket, and off i was on the 11 pm ferry out.
arrived in macau a little past midnight, and thought i'd get some gambling fix out of the way. so off i went to the wynn casino, which apparently is the newest and the best player in the block (it was also right across the street from the lisboa, which i wanted to check out sometime during the night). hopped on the cab, the cabbies all know wynn casino.
wynn is very clean and nice, very las vegas-ish. maybe it was the late hour, but the casino, while it had a fair number of people, wasn't as crowded as sands was when i was there about 2 months ago. furthermore, they had hk$100 minimum blackjack tables! after looking around a bit, i took my place at one of the tables with hkd2000, and after two and a half hours, i walked off hkd4000 richer! apparently off to a good start, as i already had my 18 sauna paid for, and then some.
saw the tryst bar on the way out, which is apparently where the ladies migrating from lisboa gather, but didn't know it at the moment. so off to lisboa i went, across the street. from the entrance i went into, it took me a little bit to navigate to the "racetrack" area where the prc ladies circle, and despite the hour (near 3 a.m.) there were quite a few ladies and fellow mongers browsing the wares. and yes, the price is hkd800 short time even at that hour, and they wouldn't budge from that price. (except maybe one or two that will do for 700, but i find that excessive haggling will almost ultimately lead to a bad experience in the sack).
having heard so many bad things about it, i wasn't going to try a sample (i still had the 18 sauna ticket, plus i was going to zhu hai!). but the quality of the girls are pretty good. definitely a lot of 7s, and some solid 8-8.5s. didn't see one i would call a 9 though. girls are generally pretty cheerful and friendly, saying "you go to my room?" (probably the only english they speak), and trying pretty hard for the sell, but still wouldn't budge from the price. there were also quite a few hotel security down there, shooing the girls to move along if they stand haggling with a monger too long. kinda annoying.
at about 3:30, feeling pretty tired, i thought i'd head off to 18, so hopped on the cab and off i went to golden dragon hotel. the guy took my ticket, gave me back the stub for the return ferry, had the locket attendants undress me, and off i was ushered into the sauna area. it's pretty big and nice, and there a few non-so-pretty thai girls in bikinis offering body scrub, but wasn't willing to try. there were quite a few guys there at the moment. i showered and wait for the show, which is about 3 minutes of pretty lackluster strip show then the girls being ushered in. during the first show, i saw maybe about 20-30 girls, and it was a madhouse. there were about 15-20 guys, madly trying to get the pretty one before others took them, and the quality of the girls were good, but not breathtaking or anything. so i passed the first time.
i made my way over to the lounge area, and made myself comfortable on one of the chairs. had a juice, browsed the internet, looked (not read) at the magazines. the tvs were mostly in chinese, and not having anyone to talk to, it was pretty dull for me, not to mention sleepy. when the second show came in around 4:45ish, i made my way out again. only about 25 girls at this time, and the manager explained that it was because of the lateness of the hour, and the best time to come is between 6 pm and midnight. girls in red tags are chinese, and reg tag girls with number starting in 8 are models that you have to pay extra for. i ended up picking 126 (or 129), a taiwanese girl who probably had the cuttest face of the bunch.
i went downstairs to the room, which has the massage table, a bed, and a shower. i'm usually pretty chatty with the girls, but not being able to speak the language is a pretty big downer. still, if you have a good attitude, you still can make the girl laugh with your sign language and gestures. i somewhat bypassed the ice/fire, the bodyslide and all that, as it's somewhat like "been there, done that" for me, and i'd rather concentrate on getting a gfe fj part. from what i know, the bodyslide gets pretty tiring for the girls, and they definitely don't mind passing that part. for my experience, girls have usually had much better attitude if you let it go. this girl wasn't really one of those. she seemed pretty happy that i didn't go through with the bodyslide, but maybe she took me for a chump, and wasn’t very keen on providing a gfe service. nonetheless, she was cooperative to all the positions i requested, made the proper noises (maybe a bit overdone), and i was done after trying 4-5 positions. kinda rushed through the shower, as she kept pointing at the clock to let me know that time was up, and as i walked out, she pointed at my didi and gave a thumbs-up with a smile, probably to say that i lasted quite a long time. yeah, right. i’ll believe that when your dad gets out from the hospital and your brother finishes his med school. hahaha.
now it was around 5:30 am, and i’m quite tired. but upstairs, all the lounge chairs are filled up and i cannot find a place to set my ass down. after waiting another 30 minutes, i finally find a place and get my free (well, included in the package) foot massage for 28 minutes. it was alright, but nothing extraordinary. then i crawled up and got some shut-eye for a few hours. when woke up, it was almost 8 am already (though i wasn’t rested at all), and i wanted to get to zhu hai to start my adventure phase ii. so showered, ate a free egg sandwich and off i went via cab to the gongbei guanxiao (border - sp?). it takes about 20 minutes and 40 mop, as it is on the other section away from the casinos. when i got there, there were tons of people heading both in and out of the building.
even though i already had a chinese visa, waiting at the “foreigners” line took about 1 hour total to get from the zhu hai end to the china side. as soon as i walked out, i must say i was somewhat overwhelmed…all signs in chinese, everyone around me not understanding a word of english, and here i am, not speaking more than 5 words of chinese and all alone, hungry and sweating. well, i wasn’t going to let that phase me. so i thought i would get a map of zhu hai first, which i have somehow neglected to do all this time (i couldn’t find one in any of hk bookstores i went to). so going to one of the travel agencies downstairs in the underground complex, i pointed to a picture of a map on their brochure, to which they pointed to a bookstore just down the hall. go left a few steps as you go down the escalator, turn right, and you’ll see the bookstore straight ahead.
going into the bookstore, i asked for a “map” in english, which they didn’t understand. so i went to look for a chinese-english dictionary. they had several, but i wanted one that was light that i can easily carry. i bought the “newly compiled english-chinese chinese-english dictionary – for high school students” (lol) for 18 yuan, and using that dictionary to point to the word “map,” i also bought an english map of zhu hai. i exited the building and walked my way over to the oh-so-famous lian hua lu. it was about a 20 min walk, and it was a hot day, but i wanted to get a sense of where things were and what’s around.
lhl is a very lively place, and at first, i thought why there were so many cops, until i realized later that they were shopping mall security guards (another lol..). saw the green umbrella street cafes that i’ve read so much about, and made my way to chang an hotel. i gotta say, other than the da hai hotel, which i didn’t try, chang an has to be the most central location next to lhl. anyway, hotel staff also barely spoke english, but they were friendly and trying to help. the room cost was 295 per night for a single (probably the weekend rate), and as i paid in cash, i had to give them 600 yuan, rest being a deposit. so being the good little monger that i am, i went to the room, promptly emptied my wallet of credit cards, and extra cash, stored it into the room safe along with my passport and other valuables, and only carrying my hkid and 1000 yuan in cash, (cuz i'd also read that not having too much can be a problem also if you’re mugged. i strolled out for my adventure.
i wanted to take it slow at first, as it was only 10:30ish or so after walking down lhl all the way down to the bus station (harassed by the sw a couple of times) and coming back, i sat at a street cafe near where i started (second one from the end of the cafe rows, on the same side as chang an), and had coffee, which was pretty good, i must say. this bar had the cutest waitress, and i wanted to see if i can talk her up for a freebie, or something for later. however, there was another dude, a teacher from hong kong, who was already keen on her, and had been visiting zhu hai every weekend in the hopes of becoming her boyfriend, i guess. oh well. it isn’t like i can make the trip to zhu hai every weekend anyhow. but this teacher dude spoke pretty good english, and soon, we were having tsing tao beers and playing dice with the waitresses. it was pretty fun. they all had a good laugh with me trying to put together words with my “high school dictionary” the cutie, whose name i forgot, from guangzhou, seemed to take pretty good interest in me too. but after talking with the teacher dude, i realized he wasn’t a monger, and wasn’t likely going to be my monger buddy for that day. also, didn’t want to pursue the cutie waitress either. i knew what i was there to do. so when they (the teacher dude, and the two waitresses at the bar) wanted to have lunch, i said i had to go and left.
my original plan had been to start off with a sw from lhl short time, as i got a hotel room and everything, and i knew i was going to head back to hong kong that night, as i had to work on sunday (i know it totally sucked…this trip could have been much more fun with another day). while i was sitting at that bar for about two and a half hour, i was harassed about 20 times by sw, some just okay, and some very pretty. it’s a shame, because in the hopes of trying to seduce the waitress, i had to act like i wasn’t interested at all. i think maybe total 20-30 sw in the street at the time. maybe i don’t have the sw like the great johnnykon does, but didn’t see the 60-70 sw that he had mentioned in his previous post. maybe it was the national day issue, and they were expecting crackdowns? i dunno.
anyway, so off i went to chang an good world hotel for my first zhu hai soapie experience. again, the staff spoke no english, and i, using my dictionary, pointed to the words “girl” and “sex” and they got the message alright. pointed to the word “price” and they wrote 298(?) on the pad, to which i said okay and they brought the girls in. they brought in i think 6 girls, who were pretty much 5.5s and 6s. when i asked if i could see more, the manager made a face like that’s something tough to do, and said he didn’t have anymore girls. i think maybe i’ve been had, but it was 2 pm in the afternoon, plus it was the holiday weekend, plus, it was my first time here, and i didn’t want to give them a hard time. from my mongering experience, i thought it was probably wiser to give a good first impression and become demanding later on once we have a relationship. but i was under the impression that i could at least see 2 lineups of 8 girls each. not 1 line up of 6.
so i picked a girl, who was an okay 6, little bit saggy, but pretty big b cup breasts, large nipples, which i like. name and region and number i forget…sorry.. to be a good report, i know i should have asked, but i was 1) really sleepy, 2) very hungry (had no lunch), 3) pretty drunk (not a good drinker, and having downed 6 beers on empty stomach playing dice), so i wasn’t in much of a mood to talk her up with my dictionary.
she showed me on the soapie shower, did the tit rub, no pussy rub, cleaned up and off to the main bed. there, she did the catlick, which was alright (the lick i got at xiang jiangjian this past weekend’s trip was better), and the ice/fire, but wasn’t sure if she used any liquids. i think she pecked at my ah, but that was it was ar. i’ll obviously rtff again, but i would appreciate a sauna where the catlick involves even toes and fingers, and the ar is k-pressure style (long and deep). again, maybe this is the treatment that first-timers get, but i thought the service was only mediocre, but with 298 yuan, who can complain? for the fj, did her mish, cowgirl, then mish, then finished doggy. once it was done, snuggled for about 5 mins, playing with her large nips, then showered and left. it was about now 3 pm, and i was really hungry and kinda nauseous (having shot twice in the past 12 hours, on minimal sleep and food). i wished i had paid better attention to the forum regarding non-sex massage and good food places. all my notes on zh had been focused on mongering.
so walking around trying to find a decent place to eat, i ended up at this kinda dingy back street near lhl that serves noodles, pointed to something that someone else was eating, and got a bottle of water. there was a store right next door that had (and probably serves) live snakes(!). i must say, the noodles quite didn’t suit my taste, and after 3 months in hk, i’m still having a bit of trouble adjusting to chinese-chinese food (as opposed to american-chinese). also it was 7 yuan with the bottled water, so probably the lowest quality food that one can find. i had maybe two bites and that was it.
still, couldn’t end my zhu hai trip with just one shot at mediocre soapie, so back to lhl i went, and finding a seat at a street cafe reasonably distant from the one i was at before (the hk teacher was still there! man, that guy needs to learn to just grab what he wants. he seemed too passive). i ordered an apple juice and waited, with my polo shirt collar up, with the zhu hai map on my hand, and the dictionary on my counter. given the hour (close to 4 pm) i thought there’d be better pickings, but i wasn’t approached at all this time. i could see two active sw trying to solicit in the street, but couldn't identify any other. then i saw one that i thought was maybe a 6 and gave her the eye. as i said, i was really getting tired at this point and just wanted to get my lhl experience and get going. she came along, started talking to me in chinese, which i of course didn’t understand, but she understood my hand signal for how much, to which she pointed two fingers. then i used one of the words i learned in this forum “shuang fei?” she nodded and motioned over another friend of hers nearby (didn’t even see her, came out of nowhere), she was another 6. they quoted 400 for the two of them. i wanted to have a longer session, maybe 3-4 hours, until 8-9 pm when i thought i’d head back to macau, hoping to arrive in hk by midnight or 1 am. so breaking out the pen and paper, started to explain what i wanted using the limited words contained in my dictionary. i pointed to the word “hour” then wrote “4”, then the word “shoot” and wrote “x9999999999999” to indicate unlimited pops, to which the girls laughed but nodded. the price negotiated at 400 each for 4 hours, unlimited pops, which i thought was alright.
so with each girl in arm, headed back to chang an, the inside of which i’ve seen for only 5 minutes up to this point. ignoring the counter, i headed straight to the elevator with no resistance (maybe it was the early hour, maybe they said something but i didn’t understand). it just so happened that there was a western family in the elevator with me, with the old dude staring at me as if asking what the heck i was doing with two girls in heavy makeup going up a hotel elevator. hahaha. went into the room, wasn’t sure how to start, but they both pulled out their cell phones and started making calls, probably to the mama. they talked back and forth for like, 15-20 minutes it seemed. once the call craze died down, i went over and just started peeling off their clothes, then off to the shower we all went (the shower in chang an is pretty tiny. it would have been nice if it had a jacuzzi. any hotel in zhu hai that has that? it would have been nice to take a bath with the girls.
from now on, i’ll refer to the first girl who approached me as the “big one” and the friend that came later as the “little one,” mainly because the little one was so short that the big one looked bigger by comparison. i forget their names, (chinese names still don’t stick to me well), but they are both from the same village in hubei. in the shower, playfully washed each other. the little one seemed a bit shy. it seemed the big one has done shuang fei before, was somewhat leading the little one to play along. (later had told me had done it twice before).
having read all the cautions, i was careful to keep the girls in my sight at all times (although my valuables were all nicely tucked away in the safe), but became more relaxed later on. once on bed, came my favorite part, which is the double bj. the girls switching between the didi and the balls. i had taken pictures of the girls (emulating the venerable johnnykon once again. like johnny~ i wanna be like johnny~ -> sing to the old jordan nike theme song..hehehehe). but when i broke out the camera then, the girls resisted, and the big one started immediately negotiating for an extra tip. she quoted 100 each extra, i countered with 50, to which said no way, (all this written on a pad of paper..haha), so i said okay 100, but i take as many pictures as i want, to which she agreed. after that, whenever i wanted to take a picture and the girls resisted, i simply pointed at the notepad with the numbers written on, and they’d relent.. hahaha the power of a contract!
i probably overpaid a bit for the experience (1000 in all, including the picture ‘tip’), but hopefully not by much to warrant any rebukes. i had a pretty good experience. read on.
after a good bbbj, on came the condom, and the big one started riding me first. then some mish. i wanted the girls to play with each other, as i always do, but the little one was shy. the big one licked the little one’s breasts little bit and fondled them, and the little one played with the big one’s tits while i was pounding her, but that was about all i can get out of them in terms of lesbo play. when i tried a threesome french kiss, when they realized what i was doing, they all frowned and started wiping their tongues with a tissue! hahaha.
anyway, switched the condom and started on the little one on top, and boy, she’s tight. i’m just an average sized asian guy, which means i’m probably somewhat smaller than a caucasian, but the little one, probably due to her lithe frame and small stature, was really tight, almost a hj tight. having shot twice, and being tired, i wasn’t as sensitive, and i was giving it to them pretty good. finally shot my load doggying the little one, while the big one was in doggy right next to her and i was playing with her pussy.
wiped out, i laid there, and we were just chatting a little bit (with the dictionary! of course) which is when i asked where they were from (hubei) how old they were (both 22), how long they’ve been in zhu hai (6 months..ha!)
the little one took quite a liking to me, and was very gfe throughout once the session was over. after little kisses, she kept wanting to french kiss me, but had a bit of breathe issues, so i made her go brush her teeth, and i was also somewhat squeamish about fking a sw, being that this was a first sw experience for me. both had very lightly haired pussies, which i liked.
having washed up, the big one started getting dressed, which made me begin worrying “uh oh, here comes a bad experience where they claim the deal was for 800, and want to leave demanding the money”, but no, she said she was going to go get more condoms, as we had only 1 left from the 3-pack in the hotel room. (next time, i’m bringing some nice once of my own). i was worried that she’d also want an advance on the money (and not show up again), but no, she just went, saying she’ll be back. so just me and the little one in the hotel, and she’s very gfe, cuddling, looking at me in the eye, keep trying to fk me, etc. my hands are roaming over her very small body, and i get hard again. so i make her go down on me, enjoying the warmth of her mouth while watching chinese tv that i don’t understand. pretty surreal experience, i must say. then using the last condom, she rides on top, and she’s pretty excited and into it. but being so sleepy, and now starting to run out of juice, i can’t keep going and have to stop. about an hour later, the big one shows up (the biatch), and brought condoms, but also went home and changed!
dammit girl, you’re on my time. you change when you’re on your time. so it seems while the big one was more experienced, she was also trying to play me, trying to earn her money the easy way. well, i wasn’t going to let her, so when i started peeling off her new clothes again (the white ones in the picture are the ones she had changed into). she said she’s hungry and wants to eat. i was actually pretty hungry too (having had only 1 egg sandwich in macau, and 2 bites of noodles all day), so i said okay. she ordered some food with her mobile, and the little one ate the instant noodles kept in the hotel bar. the food delivery came, 30 yuan which i paid, just some white rice and veggies and pork ribs on top. again, not really to my picky palates, but more edible than the 7 yuan noodles. cuz it was so hot, the big one even fed me the food, blowing on it until it was cooler, which was quite gfe for her.
once done, washed up, i made both girls brush their teeth again (hygiene is very important for me, yet the girls didn’t seem to want to. wack!), then began round 2.5. started with the double bj again, bbbj alternating between balls and didi. no ar, or asked. girls were little skittish about the alternating on my didi with saliva still on it, but this round was better. then on came the hat and started on the big one. because of her attitude and being gone for so long, i wanted to punish her long and hard. my didi had been insensitized enough that i was straight up giving it to her for 30 minutes, with no sign of stopping. then she said she needs some lube and put on the ky, but now i was so tired that i wanted to stop pumping. so on came the little one on top (man, she was still so tight!), while i fingered the big one’s ky-lubed pussy, and i unloaded.
once finished, i was exhausted. but that’s when the girls gave me a new proposition, which was that if i paid them 100 yuan more each, that they can stay the whole night. i was at a dilemma 1) at a cost of us$30 more, spend the entire night with two 22 year old girls and fuck them as many times as i want, or 2) go back to hk so that i can go to work the next day. gee, that’s a tough one.
in the end though, i had to decline (though, very sadly), as i’m working 7 days a week nowadays, and even taking friday night and saturday off was a push for me. and there was no way in the tired state i was in, that i could have gone straight to work the next day. but oh man, the fun i was leaving behind…
so i bid the girls adieu, and that’s when it started getting a little bad. apparently, the girl’s ‘quota’ for the day is 600 yuan, i think, and if they don't meet it, the mama beats them with a coathanger (they showed me the bruises on the arm. those mean mamas), so they had to go a find a new john before they can sleep. the big one even looked up the word “trouble” on my dictionary and showed it to me. then they both started asking for 100 tip each, so they can go home and sleep. but i stayed firm on the original price, saying the agreed price was 800, and i’m already paying them more by paying them 1000. honestly though, i wouldn’t have minded a 100 tip to the little one, as she had a really tight assets which i enjoyed, and she was very gfe, which made the experience pleasant, but didn’t mind sending the big one out to earn her dough. she earned 500 pretty easy with me. i also didn’t want to give in on the principle that i didn’t want to ruin the market, which i also lament whenever i see newbies breaking in and doing. so i stayed firm, to which they both became pouty. then they asked if they can stay in the room for the night, which i wouldn’t have minded, but had to decline as i had to return the room key and the room is registered in my name, and wasn’t sure what the hotel staff would say about it (and i couldn’t communicate in chinese to discuss on the phone). so we all dressed and left. before leaving, the girls both gave me their numbers, which i have, but cannot read the names. i wish i could scan the pages. oh well.
when i was checking out, as i already paid for the room, they checked the minibar use, and i paid additional 40-50 yuan for the noodles, a drink from the fridge and the condoms. got 260 yuan back, and off i was to macau. it was raining slightly outside, and i felt bad about the little one having to go out and find another john in this weather. again, oh well.
the return trip was pretty uneventful, line at the border was long again, took an hour to get out, except once i got on the macau side, trying to avoid the line at the taxi (still raining) i ventured out onto the street area and got completely lost and somewhat scared, realizing that all taxis that come into this area, if any, will go to the border anyway. somehow found a cab, and made my way over to the ferry terminal. word of warning : if you arrive in macau side after dark, no matter how long the line is at the border, catch a cab there. do not venture into the city area, as that area looks pretty damn shady. the mugger would have hit a jackpot with all the cash i was carrying around.
anyway, arrived in hk safe and sound at 1 am, got home at 1:30, and i crashed onto the bed, and slept the sleep of bliss.
after a little over 24 hours after leaving hk, i had 1 shot with a 8.5 at 18 sauna, 1 shot with a 6-6.5 at chang an good world soapie, 2.5 shots with the dynamic duo, 1 attempt at a freebie seduction, 1 meal (.5 meal at 18, and .5 meal with the girls), 2.5 hours of sleep.
the overall cost was : ferry ticket (included in package) + hkd 1450 (18 sauna) + 298y (chang an soapie) + 1000y (big one little one) + hkd350 (misc meals, drinks at the street cafe, taxis) = - hkd 3100
earnings at the casino = 4000.
4000 – 3100 = +900 hkd.
so in the end, i had a while and fun trip, abeit somewhat tiring, and came off 900 dollars richer, which i must say is a pretty good deal. hahaha. i wanted to write this report to contribute to the forum, which gave me the information i needed to enjoy myself, though i probably didn’t discuss anything that it hasn’t already been discussed.
i made another trip this past weekend (just the weekend after this trip) to macau-zhu hai again, and had a good time again, and ended up with a darling 1 thai freebie now to boot! but as it took me two hours to write this report, i’ll report that experience in another post. i am also posting this info in the macau general section.
the numbers of the girls are:
big one:
13539552*7*
little one:
13*97777591
missing digits: what numbers relate to johnnykon’s isg nick? ^^
- if you call, say you got the number from the “han gwuh ren” that saw her a couple weeks back and she’ll probably remember.
i’m also posting the pics of the dynamic zhuhai girls for your viewing pleasure. sorry, no photos of 18 sauna or the soapie. enjoy!
1) the big one
2) obviously, the little one
3) stripping for the action
4) ahh…my favorite double bj
5) little one down on me..the big one took the pics.
6) about to mish the little one. look at that cute face haha
7) little one riding cowgirl. this was when the big one was gone to get condoms
8) little one eating noodles.
9) the big one showing off her wares.
10) posing for the final shot before parting. notice the big one’s clothes have changed.
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Ks,
Great report!!! And with pictures yet!!! Thanks for sharing.
You did great and I do not think that you overpaid at all for what you got.They both looked good, especially the little one. She was a hottie.
Post more pix if you have them.
Cheers!!
Tony
[b]Ks457[/b], that's a really great report !!! Thanks !
Am popping down to Zhuhai/Macau for a visa run tomorrow. I was in Macau a few weeks back and located a China Travel Service at the Macau-Zhuhai border crossing, where they claimed they can do a 6-mth multiple entry visa for travellers (without 30-day stay restriction for each entry), cost HKD 1100 and the visa can be done within the hour or so. On the back of their namecard, it states they also specialize in 144hours visa, group visa, standing visa.
The China Travel Service office is located right before the Macau immigration counters (on the left hand side; same hall with the immigration counters).
China Travel Service Guangdong Gongbei Co. Ltd.
Tel: 0756 8156227 / 8156466 Fax: 0756 8156466
I called them up this morning to re-confirm details. They mentioned they are open until 10pm and even said that if I go at nite, I can probably get the visa done even faster (maybe half an hour).
Anyways, will try out this option tomorrow and post about the procedures later on this thread (let's see if this is a better option than getting visa done in HK, whereby I have to get down to Kowloon or Wanchai). Will also ask if they can get 1-year multiple visa done and other info...
Hoeman...
p.s. Lotus Rd, here I come again...woohoo...
I am thinking about ZhuHai in december or in january, I am wondering how does one get an apartment in ZhuHia if you done know chinese or catonese and how much could I expect to stay for a month?
I dont usually comment on outstanding posts such as this one (because someone usually beats me to it), but that really tires me out just to read your adventure!
Cant imagine what it was like to live though all that with next to no sleep. Great effort to pull through and stay focused for the duration.
(And yeah, please post more pics if youve got them)
Thanks all for the compliments on my first (real) post…Here comes part deux!
Okay, so after my first ever Macau-Zhu Hai trip, which turned out to be pretty friggin fun, although somewhat tiring, I was excited to take another go. So obviously, I went ahead and went again the very next weekend. (this past weekend).
Having learned from the weekend before that sleep was very important, this time I snuck out of work at 5:30 p.m. (due to the holiday, almost everyone was gone). Off to Shun Tak center I went, with almost the same gear as before (change of shirt and underwear, passport, a PEN – if you do not have one, will have trouble at all immigration posts, which do not have extras lying around – and 7000 HKD cash, my map of Zhu Hai, my “English-Chinese Chinese-English Dictionary for High School Students,” and the printout of various information I collected on ISG.
Bought the package for Darling 1 this time (1400 HKD), as I was actually planning to spend the night in Zhu Hai, and go to Darling 1 on my way back to HK. Got on the Ferry at 6:30, was in Macau by 7:30, hopped on the cab straight away, off to the Gongbei border, was in Zhu Hai by 8:30. As I knew what to do, hopping on the cab, went straight off to Chang An hotel on LHL right away. Even though I made such a fuss with my lack of Chinese skill just the weekend before, the staff didn’t seem to recognize me, although I think the bellboy may have.
From sign language and limited English, they told me that no single rooms were available, and only doubles were available, and quoted 240 yuan. That’s cheaper than 295 I paid for a single on Saturday, so I took it. The room is just about the same size, except that it has two smaller beds instead of one big one. I think one bigger bed is better for the things I had planned. lol.
Nonetheless, after locking up my credit cards, passport and cash away in the room safe, I went to grab a bite at the Chang An restaurant. Again, no menu in English, and staff doesn’t speak English. I actually wanted to have seafood fried rice, so I pointed to “Rice” and alas! My dictionary doesn’t have the word “seafood” lol. So I pointed to the word “sea” instead, hoping she’d understand. She kept trying to talk to me in Chinese, to which I keep nodding. The waitress went away, and taking quite some time, I ended up getting…guess what?...a curry dinner box. And what’s more, it was CHICKEN curry. Lol.
Well, some food is better than no food, and I was keen on keeping my energy for mongering, so I ate it up, probably the most edible food I’ve had in Zhu Hai (although that’s not saying very much). Made a self mental note to definitely find a better restaurant in Zhu Hai for future visits. While eating, I thought about how I wanted to spend my evening, and even though I had a great time with LHL girls, I’m always for exploring new horizons, and I wanted to try the KTV’s in Zhu Hai, which there isn’t much written about in the boards, even though I was traveling alone.
So I first try out the KTV in Chang An, which, according to the bellboy, has 200 ladies. I seriously wanted to check out the famous Chinese lineups of 20-30 girls at a time that I’ve heard so much about. It’s about 9 o’clock when I get down there, and problems occur at the counter where they don’t speak any English. They first try to take me to the bar. No way lady, I’m here to par-tay! So I point to the endless rows of rooms, to which the hostess gets the message and brings me there. Now, the problems occurs, as the only Chinese words I know that would apply in this situation is “shiaojie.” No communication about how much short time is, long time is, what the sitting charges are, what to drink, how long I can stay at the KTV, when the girl will leave, how many girls can I see…all such phrases are sadly not in my dictionary for high school students.
After some frustrating sign language (I was of course careful to smile and be polite at all times. It’s my fault that I cannot speak Chinese, not their fault that they cannot speak English, after all, although I’ve seen foreigners in Hong Kong that seem to not understand that fact. Just my two yuans) and writing numbers and stick figures (yes! Stick figures!) on a notepad, the hostess brings in the manager (a guy) reeking of tobacco and really really bad teeth. From then on, no matter what I tell him, he just seemed to tell me that there were no girls for me, although I’ve communicated with the hostess at the door long enough to learn that it’s 650 for the minimum room charge, 200 for the sitting fee, and 1000 for long time takeout (apparently, short time option isn’t available). He just kept saying “no”. Frustrated, I left. I don’t know if this was because I was a foreigner (even though I’m asian) only speaking English that they didn’t want to serve me, or that they really didn’t have any girls (which I thought at the time impossible, as it was only 9 PM, but now know may have been true). Anyone here been to this place?
So, not to let this experience phase me, I headed over to the hotel area – where Chang An Good World Hotel and GD Regency was, as I’ve heard that there were KTV’s in most hotels in Zhu Hai. Well, that statement is true to some extent. The real truth is, KTVs are EVERYWHERE in Zhu Hai. You don’t realize it as much during the day, but their neon lights come to life once it gets dark, and everywhere you’ll see signs with either “OK” or “K” somewhere in the middle, and many women in Chinese dresses under it. Anyway, I walked up a little bit towards the opposite way from the street cafes on Lian Hua Lu, and after 4-5 mins, I hit GD Regency and Chang An Good World Hotels (realizing that it was retarded of me to take a cab from Chang An Hotel to Chang An Good World last time). I’m on the same side as GD Regency, so I try its KTV first. Again, problem with English at the counter, but they are quickly able to find a woman manager who speaks quite good English, who again tells me that they have no girls available. Incredulously, I ask “It’s only 9:30?” and she says I need to come closer to their opening hour, which is 6:30. Amazing. When I used to party in Korea, things don’t even get started until 10 pm. You show up at 9 pm, and half of the girls haven’t even shown up for work yet!
Anyway, I politely thank her again and leave, and I’ll likely try this place the next time I go, as this looked to be a pretty clean place and the presence of this English speaking manager. I should have gotten her card, but I’m sure anyone who goes will be able to find her. GD Regency is a much nicer looking hotel from the outside than Chang An, and I was thinking maybe I should stay there next time as well. Again, the price quoted here was, 670 for the room charge, 200 for the girl sitting fee, and 1000 (which includes the sitting charge) for the long-time takeout.
Still, not to let two rejections stop me, I asked the manager to recommend a place, which she wouldn’t. So I left and went across the street, towards where Yindo Hotel is, which is the intersection of LHL and Yue Hai road, on the northeast (I think) corner. I again saw a huge “OK” sign, so went in. This place, which I do not know the name of, had the most fancy entrance. Looking at the reports, this is probably the place mentioned in Cn Explorer’s “Zhuhai Report” post. Trying to speak in English at the entrance, they invited me in. There were actually quite a few people sitting at the lounge area, with the singer. None of that for me, thank you very much. Inside the room, they actually found a waitress girl who spoke good English, who once again, told me that no girls are available. CRAZY! I’ve been to 3 establishments, with at least 200 girls each, and I cannot find 1 for myself (well, actually, I was looking for 2, hehehehe). Again, disappointed, I left, saying thank you. Making a mental note to try this place again next time I’m in Zhu Hai, to be waiting at the door for the opening at 6:30. Price? Whopping 800 for the room charge (I think), and 200 for sitting, 1000 takeout.
Now I had officially given up, as I now believed that at 10 pm, I wasn’t going to find a girl for takeout in KTV, at least that I wouldn’t have much choices. So I wanted to try the Xiang Jiang hotel sauna that’s supposedly Johnnykon’s favorite. I asked them where it was, and they couldn’t tell me exactly, so I started walking in that general direction (northwest), and ended up in some dark empty street (kinda scared) with very few people, passing smaller hotels and massage type places (I think) on the way. LHL gets hopping and going until very late at night, but once you go past Yue Hai road on the north side, things stop dead, and there isn’t much going on north of that road. When I started heading left, I walked a long time and saw a couple of barber shops without scissors in the left, to which I peaked in (wasn’t going to stop, as I didn’t want to be on this street alone looking lost), but the quality was pretty bad. I hit the big road (which looking at the map now I realize is Yingbin Nanlu, then heading a few blocks up north to find Xiang Jiang Hotel. Now, having actually walked about 20+ minutes, I was pretty tired, and it was about 10:30 or so.
This hotel also had a KTV, so I said, why not and give it another shot (while not expecting much). Going in, I also pointed to the room, to which they took me, and it was a fairly big room, probably enough to fit 8 people comfortably, with its own bathroom (squatting style..haha, havn’t seen THAT in a long ass time), but it was somewhat dingy. Not what would have been my first choice of a KTV. The name of the place (I actually kept the card for this one, as I ended up staying) is Ming Du Club. Then promptly, a mamasan came in, a women probably in her early 40s, who herself probably had been a working girl at some point. The funny thing was, despite speaking no English at all, she tried the hardest for the sale. She wrote a bunch of stuff in Chinese, which I of course didn’t understand, but enough to understand that the room charge was 630, sitting charge was 200, and the long time takeout was 1000. But could not communicate as to how many girls she can show me, or when the girl will leave in the morning if she comes with me. Really, I should learn at least little bit of Chinese (although I don’t know how much it’ll help) while at saunas it’s less of an issue, but when you’re at a KTV, language can be more of a burden. But heck, it’s only a burden, not an impossibility. I got through it, so it’s obviously it’s still possible, if not difficult.
The mama’s name is Dai Wan Jun, her mobile number is 13326673996, if you want to try this establishment. Anyway, also signaled to me that I can see the girls first, and I said okay, after trying vainly to ask how many girls I can see. She showed me one (ONE!) lineup of maybe 10-12 girls, all of mediocre quality (5-6s). Disappointed, I asked for another lineup. Oh, by this time, another dude, who’s probably in charge of gathering the girls, had joined into this little meeting. They both made faces as if to say there weren’t any more girls, and I took that as the truth, as I’ve been rejected to be shown girls at all at 3 previous places. Nonetheless, I opened my dictionary and pointed to the word “pretty” to which Dai Wan Jun nodded. She kept making calls on her cell, and brought in Ah Jin, a girl from Hubei (I think). Her picture is below. She was actually pretty cute, probably a 6.5-7, except she had no breasts. I told her to wait, and asked Dai Wan Jun for another pretty girl, and frantically explained to her that I’ll play in the room with 2, but will leave at the end of the night with only 1 of them.
She once again nodded and brought in Yo Yo, (her picture is below also), who had been on the first (and only) lineup, and kept saying “pretty, pretty”. I almost fed her a cracker. lol At this point, I was kind of debating. The total cost would if I stayed, would have been 630 for the room (which Dai Wan Jun had quoted), 200 for the girl not picked, and 1000 for the girl picked, making the total cost 1830 for the night (not to mention the tip to the mama, which I would think would be a nice thing to do). Considering the alternative way to get banged in Zhu Hai, it seemed a little (way) too much, although if I was offered that at a room salon in Korea, I would’ve taken the deal in a heartbeat. Thinking for a little bit (with Yoyo and Ah Jin right next to me, to boot), I asked Dai Wan Jun if there was cheaper option (i.e. smaller room, as I’m by myself, or lesser drinks, as I’m not a big drinker). So I opened my dictionary, and pointed to the word “cheap”, and apparently misunderstanding my intent, she started dropping prices! Hahaha. I actually drove a bargain without even knowing. Shaking my head, I tried to explain what I was saying, and she again, misunderstanding what I was going to do, dropped the price of the room to 500, and the long-time charge to 900! Hahaha… I was cracking up inside at the way things were happening. But hey, this time, I was sold, so I said okay and everyone was happy. Next came the difficult part of deciding what to drink, and I opened the book to “wine”, as I didn’t want to drink hard liquor (i.e. scotch), and amidst the conversation between the girls and girl gathering dude (his name is Hua Jian Xin), I overheard “Hong Juo” which I read from Shenzhen threat means red wine, and I stopped them and nodded. So they brought in a small tray of fruits and a bottle of red wine chilled with ice, and the drinking began.
After toasting with both Dai Wan Jun, Hua Jian Xin and the girls, they turned on the karaoke computer, but sadly, the songs in English were pretty lacking. They only had the collection from “best of the oldies,” and I pretty much picked every song that I recognized, which consisted of “beauty and the beast,” “everything I do I do it for you” by Bryan Adams, “Pretty Woman” and various collections by Celine Dion. I made a vain attempt at singing those, and the girls as well as Dai Wan Jun sang a few Chinese songs, to which all danced to. It was pretty good time. Broke out the dice, and I learned on the spot how to play the game in Chinese, so I know how to count to 10 in Chinese now. Saw some fancy dice throwing tricks, courtesy of Dai Wan Jun. I had a good time, although it would have been more fun to be with a friend. Going to KTV alone doesn’t do much, especially when you can’t communicate much with the girls.
Ah Jin was more playful one in the room, but she left for extended period of time (saying she had to go eat, other times Yoyo didn’t even know where she went), and she would not let me touch her at all (other than arm on the shoulder), and no pecks or kisses. Yoyo, on the other hand, was more reserved, not dancing much, and acting pretty shy, but she let me FK her (though short bits at a time), and fondle her soft and real C cup breasts inside the shirt (even popping one out to play with the nipples, before making me put it back quickly..haha, that’s the way to play!), also sometimes lifting up her ultra mini jean skirt to reveal her lacy panties and rub her crotch area, her rubbing mine, kept saying “big! Big!” haha, again, I’ll believe that when they serve real scotch at Chinese KTVs. But fun nonetheless (all that going on while Ah Jin was out, of course).
After about 2 and a half hours of playing, I was ready to head out, so I asked for the bill. Some confusion as to whether I need to pay 500+200+200 now, or pay 500+200 now and give 900 to the girl (I had been set on taking Yoyo for the night). In the end, I asked Dai Jun Wan who she’d recommend, and she recommended Yoyo too. So I said okay and paid 700, plus 200 for Dai Wan Jun and Hua Jian Xin, and took off with Yoyo. She actually looked worse when she lost a bit of makeup, and I was somewhat thinking if I made a wrong choice. Anyway outside, I asked if she was hungry, to which she said yes and we went to eat at a little café just next to the hotel. Yoyo speaks odd words of English here and there. In the café, after ordering the food, she called a friend of her to come see her there. I let her order whatever she wanted, and once the friend came, we said hi (I forget her name). The friend shared some of the food, and Yoyo kept asking me if I thought she was pretty, to which I said yes (just to be polite. The friend was only a 5 at best). Yoyo, I think was trying to see if I wanted to shuangfei with her friend, as her friend probably also works at a KTV, either the one I went to, or another one, and probably didn’t find anyone for long-time (seeing her, can understand why). As much as I’m a fan of the double fly, I didn’t want to go all night with a 5, for god knows how much, considering what alternatives were available. So we said goodbye to her friend, and left to the hotel.
Once there though, the boinking turned out to be much worse than I expected. First off, she wouldn’t let me take any nude pics (the best I could do was with a towel, which is below), no catlick, no more kissing, and she would only blow me for like, 2 seconds, then at my insistence, another 2 seconds, and complain that she doesn’t usually do that, (yeah right), and wanted to put the hat on right away. WTF, so I started providing the service, starting with her nice tits, going down to dine at the Y, which was clean and without any smell. She seemed pretty into it, moaning and grabbing my hair. When I started the FJ, after about 10 minutes or so, she started giving me the “tong~ tong~” treatment (I had also read somewhere in the forum that ‘tong’, which means ‘pain’, and she was pretty much saying ‘it hurts, it hurts’ -> i.e. finish up fast, finish up fast) WTK! I did not pay 900 (well, not yet anyway) to put up with this kinda crap.
Now I was kinda losing interest, so I wanted to finish up before I lost my erection as well. So turned her over for the doggy and pounded furiously until I finished. Definitely not one of better releases. What I’d call a “Handjob with a pussy” sex experience. Once we were done, it seemed Yoyo was become more distant. Not the GFE I hoped for. Anyway, it was getting pretty late, and so we washed up. I had asked Yoyo if she had a boyfriend, to which she said no, but when I was playing around with her cell, I saw pics of her in bed with another dude (probably from HK). So the lesson is, don’t believe anything these girls tell you. They can lie with the straightest of faces, and with such ease. But it seems I NEVER have good experiences going LT with a KTV girl. Zhu Hai or elsewhere. Maybe I’m jinxed. Oh well.
Anyway, went to bed with Yoyo only in undies, and I was pretty beat too. Fell asleep and woke a couple of times with rings on her cell. When I finally woke, it was to the phone call from the hotel, asking me to check out in the next 20 minutes. I had slept until 1:20 pm! So frantically, without even time for second pop, I dressed. By this time, I pretty much lost interest in Yoyo, and probably would have only gone for the second pop only out of obligation to the 900 yuan I’d have parted with. Not a good mentality to have when getting busy. It should be a fun and enjoyable experience.
After I quickly got dressed, I took the money out from the safe (I had exchanged to yuan at the Shun Tak center, but the dude for some reason gave me the yuans for Chinese natives, as opposed to the yuans give to foreiners). I gave her 900 as promised, but then Yoyo pulled another “I’m a bad biatch” trick out of her sleeve. She gave me two notes back, saying they were bad. Of all the things! Grinning, I counted up two more newer notes, which she took. In the lobby, she left with a wave of hand, not so much as a hug. I did the same. I hope to not see her again.
Settled at the hotel, and going outside, I decided to head over to the Xiang Jiang hotel again, seeing as how I didn’t get a chance to try the sauna there last night. I haven’t showered either, so it was a good excuse (like I needed one). Grabbing a cab this time, I got to the hotel again, and went up to the sauna. Now looking at the VIP Card, I do not think this is the sauna on Mongerxx’s “Budget Sauna Tour with Johnnykon” report, that’s supposed to be Johnnykon’s favorite. The VIP card I have says “Xiang Jiangjian Kang Zhong Xin”, whereas that place is “Xiang Jing”. Also, the uniforms in the pic from the ones I saw are different.
Oh well. The price was 328 for 1 girl, and 528 for 2 girls. Of course, I opted for the two girl option. Again, I only got to see 1 lineup of 6 girls, mediocre quality each, and said no other girls were available. When I mentioned shuangfei, I was able to see another lineup of 3 girls, in red dresses different from the uniform of the first lineup. Dunno why. I picked a girl with 6 face and 5 body (no breasts at all), and a girl with a 5 face and a 6 body (nice tits) from the second lineup. I still don’t know when I should be picky, as I still think the prices are a real bargain. The two girls did a good job washing me down, and took turns doing the breast rub, pussy rub, and the catlick. Better service than the one I had last time at Chang An Good World. The big boob girl did most of the body rub. I don’t remember the numbers of the girls, but even if I did, it wouldn’t matter as the girls were nothing extraordinary. Only the prices are.
On to the bed, the big boob girl did ice/fire/ice bj (covered), while the cute-face girl did a short AR. I think the cute-face girl was about to break out the red ropes (yes, they have it at this place) for the oral session, but I think the big-boob girl stopped her, telling her to leave that for just the FJ part. After the catlicks, which the big-boob girl did the pouring mint water on body then sucking it away action (I have no idea what to call it, maybe mouth vacuuming? Something to that extent), the girls put on the red rope. Started with red rope mish on the big boob girl, while the cute face girl kinda shyly stood next to me. I of course wouldn’t let her but let her mouth roam over other parts while fingering her. After some red rope doggy on the big boob girl, switched over to the cute-face girl on red rope doggy, and not getting much pleasure from the red rope, and probably uncomfortable for the girls, I went to the bed. Then after some mish pounding on the cuteface girl while sucking on the bigboob girl’s tits and fingering her, I released. Washed up, pretty satisfied for the money paid, I left, and getting the VIP card, which was 30 yuan (again, another proof that it’s not the same place, because Xiang Jing’s is 50 yuan for VIP card supposedly). Man, if I lived in Zhu Hai, I’d need a separate wallet just for the VIP cards, and they’d all be worth the money I paid for.
Seeing it was near 4 pm, I headed to the McDonalds and headed back to Macau according to my schedule. While the KTV experience didn’t pan out the way I’d hoped, I gathered some info on where to try next, had fun while at the KTV, and a better soapie massage experience made this trip to Zhu Hai another worthwhile one. Besides, I still had the Darling 1 ticket in the wallet to look forward to.
Same long trip back to Macau, and arriving at around 5:30, I headed off to the Wynn casino again, hoping to get a few hours of gambling fix before heading off to Darling 1. Starting with 2000 HKD again at 100 min bet blackjack table, I was hoping play for couple of hours, and maybe make a little bit to cover the cost of this trip, like last time, and head to Darling by around 7-8 pm, being in Hong Kong by midnight…Except this time, I just couldn’t lose! Usually, if you’re lucky, you’ll find 1 dealer that you do pretty well against. This time at the table I was sitting, I was unbeatable against all 3 dealers on rotation. Time kept passing by, and I still couldn’t leave cuz my streak wouldn’t end. When I had several neat stacks of 1000 chips (yes, one thousand dollar chips) in front of me, the pit boss caught up to me and brought in a new dealer, but after losing just one hand to the new guy, I knew it was time for me to jet. Cashing out, I found out that I had become 36,300 HKD richer! It was almost 10 pm at night, and I headed off to Darling 1 feeling pretty damn good. Another trip paid for, and then some.
Once in Darling 1, they had a good selection of Chinese ladies as well as viet and thai. Sitting down at the sofa, ordered ice coffee and spend a little bit of time calming myself down (from the adrenaline rush) and enjoying the attention from the ladies. As I’ve been having too much Chinese(?) the past few days, I decided to go for something exotic and chose a pretty and tall Thai girl who had a great smile.
Okay, from this point on, I’ll keep it short, as it falls in the “bragging” category and not much in terms of information to share. The Thai girl, who I cannot release the name or the number of, gave a wonderful BBBJ, but no AR (and didn’t ask for it), and an enthusiastic service. While chit chatting with her, (as she spoke English, and as it was frustrating being deaf-mute for the past two days for me, I was eager to communicate with the provider) I asked her if there is a good thai restaurant I can go to (I was pretty hungry), and she suggested that maybe she and I go together. Not understanding what she meant, I asked her, and she, with some hesitation and shyness, told me that for 1688 HKD, I can “buy” her time from Darling 1 for two hours. I debated a little bit, but in the end, I said why the f**k not. I had the cash, and it would be fun (and new) thing for me to try. She jumped at joy, and once coming out, took me to a nice Thai restaurant (don’t know where, she spoke to the driver, but it’s in the residential part of town, away from the casino. There was a pretty big park nearby), and had a nice dinner of crabs, shimp cake, and Thai seafood salad. She was very GFE throughout, feeding me, leaning on me, giving me occasional kisses. She asked me to let her buy one more dish to take back to her friends at Darling, and the dinner came out to 500 HKD.
She asked for my mobile and e-mail, and said she’ll e-mail me on her day off. Although I wasn’t expecting much (never should), I gave her the number. She took me back to the ferry (yeah, we ONLY ATE for the two hours. May have been a dumb way to blow 1688 HKD, but in the end, it ended up being all worth it), and it was 2:30 am when I got on the ferry. Got home at 4 a.m. and once again, I fell into blissful slumber.
**she ended up calling me next Wednesday, and I went to visit her in Macau after work, without buying a package this time. (feels weird to actually pay for tickets. Feels like I’m getting robbed. hahaha) After another nice Thai dinner, went dancing at a disco until 3 am, then got a room at Wynn (yeah, I went a bit overboard) where we proceeded to hump like animals in heat until 7 am. I had to take her to her Darling 1-owned apartments and headed out to work straight. Was pretty much unconscious all day at work, but with a big grin in my face. She keeps SMSing me now, and got one message as I was writing this report “Honey, I miss you…” Because I want to keep her around as long as possible, will not release her name or Darling 1 number, but she’s a definite 8.5 in face, and 8 in body (better if it wasn’t for the fake tits)**
So this was another pretty friggin fun trip for me. Although this time, the best part came in the end, Zhu Hai was still very fun and enjoyable. I can’t even begin to imagine the possibilities if I was actually living there!
The total cost for the trip was: ferry ticket (included in the package) + 240 (room at Chang An) + 1800 (KTV, 200 sitting charge for Ah Jin, 500 drinks, 900 LT, and 200 to mama) + 528 (shuangfei soapie) + 1400 (Darling 1, package) + 1688 (2 hours time buy) + 500 (Thai dinner) + 200 (various cabs, other foods)
= 6356 HKD. Add 300 (dinner) + 500 (disco, drinks) + 1850 (room plus tax) if you want to count the Wednesday trip.
Total earning for this trip = + 36,300 at Wynn
Net cost/profit for this trip = 29,944 HKD (give or take a few)
All in all very enjoyable, and looks like I won’t be buying any packages when I visit Macau for a while :). If this trend of making money on mongering trip keeps up, I just may have to give up my job. LOL. This trip was better and worse than the last trip in that KTV experience didn’t pan out like I hoped, but I got more rest this time, and I gotta say, Zhu Hai soapie still kicks ass. Macau was very costly, but man, that was totally worth it too. Just be forewarned though, the experience may not be the same for everyone. I think I was just in a good zone, mongering or gambling-wise, which doesn’t happen much for me either. Many who have mongered for a long time probably know that there are certain short “zones” where every girl you try to seduce will fall, every provider becomes GFE, every lineup you see are hot…things like that.
Thanks for reading such a long post, and I can’t wait to go on another Macau-Zhu Hai trip!!
Oh yeah, below are pics for your viewing pleasure.
1) Yoyo (looked better in real life)
2) Ah Jin
3) Ah Jin and Yoyo
4) Yoyo in a towel (sorry, no pics this time)
Should have taken pics at Xiang Jiang, and sorry, will keep pics of the Darling Thai girl to myself (for now at least) :)
KS
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just came back from the place where i have my 5days 4wanderful night spending on that city.
lhl now days lots of police car patroling the place as there are some air-show and festival going on end of this month. the girl quality are good, saw lots of new girl. this batch of girl are all tall in size and got the killer's leg. the price is still the same 200rmb for 1pop. don't go there after midnight because there are some girl with pimp will hook you up with their trap. (anal will cost extra 400 or asking more tips from you) usuall i don't want them to mention to the pimp which room i am staying, only asked the girl to tell the hotel.
golden sands ktv- plenty of girl and take home on cost 1000rmb. service are good, gfe are great.
i had a " handicaped meal" where those 17-18old girl will feed you during your lunch. peeling prawn, feed rice to you, what u need to do is just only busy with you both hand touching their boobs. tips only 100rmb for the whole session with them taking off their bra. lunch is about 150rmb per pax.
spa with 36 style is a new thing i had tried over there. scaring stunt perform with the automatic bed. the girl will perform some acrobatic stunt by hanging on the robe just on top of the bed and gave u a blow, what a experience. the total package is 500rmb with 2 pop.
the vilage (30min from zhuhai) zhong shan is another nice place to monger where all the ktv girl didn't need to wear makeup and they are so innocent and pretty. take home only cost 800rmb with they will stay with you till the next day 12pm.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]
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There's this one gal that Weelock got the number for while sitting on one his his 4-5 hour marathon "girl watching" sessions.
He raved about her as better than sliced bread, sweet than honey, and prettier than the last girl he said the same shit
about, ha ha...This girl even had a Chinese/English name, An Ji/Angie, which probably meant that she had been successful
with foreigners, and after seeing/fucking her, I stand by this judgement. First of all, it was damn impossible to get a
hold of this gal because the mamasan kept cock-blocking me if I didn't take her all night (cost: a cool 1000 RMB). I rarely
take gals overnight and I wasn't going to do it without trying her out first. FINALLY, after 4 days of cock-block, I got
her to come for a fuck...during lunchtime. Ha ha, why not, it's 2 hours of time I usually waste anyway and it'd be something
new to try.
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In my opinion and the even the guy next to me at the green cafe, said she was pretty. If she's NOT pretty or good, then why you can not touch her for a few days. It's because of her busy booked schedule. If people don't think she pretty then why she also commanding $1000 a night. I do agree that she's lacking on the top part. Her tits could be a litlte bigger. She is a KTV looking girl working the streets which is very rare. The funny thing I only saw her for one day on LHL then she disappeared. I think it was on Sept 30 or Oct 1 on the national holiday.
Anyway glady you tried her for a test drive......
A freebie and I decided to head to Zhuhai for a few days because we had heard it was popular with the Chinese as a destination spot and a generally nice place to spend a few days.
So did we end up in another Zhuhai?
Both my friend and I thought Zhuhai ended up being a bit of hole and left early because there wasn't really anything to do (besides drink and look at the walled off beaches from our hotel room).
Did we miss something? Can someone explain the tourist allure of Zhuhai? (non P4P version!).
I think that Zhuhai's allure is that it is in fact a clean city by the beach. A place where you can get away from the smog filled air of big cities like Guangzhou.
In terms of things to do, well there really aint much. Get some cheap, legit, massages, cross the boarder to Macau to gamble a bit, or go to the Yue hot springs.
'lad
I just got back from Zhu Hai afer 4 days trip. One question it seems the price for over night has gone up in Zhu hai, the ST is still 200 for LHL. but for overnight I could not get anyone for under 1000. is the normal or did I just get ripe off. this was my experence for all 4 days. I did 4 ST for 200 and 3 overnight for 1000 on LHL. even the KTV girl in wongFu ask for 1000 for overnight. Next time i think maybe I will go and place around ShenZhen.
1 )Go to the New Yuan Ming Palace,The nightly cultural show involving lasers,lights involving 600 plus performers is awesome
2)Take the sunset cruise around the Macau waters from Zhuhai
3)Go to the Imperial Hot Springs
4)Go to one of the Cafes along Lovers Road and just chill out while having a coffee
5)Visit the Sex Islands where there are hundreds of working girls for the picking
6)Go to the Pearl City Amusement Park,A Chinese Theme park
7)Visit the Botanical gardens and See the statue of the Fishing girl
8)When you are done with that monger monger monger
I operate tour groups into Zhuhai and I hope this helps Cheers
[QUOTE=Hoeman]Am popping down to Zhuhai/Macau for a visa run tomorrow. I was in Macau a few weeks back and located a China Travel Service at the Macau-Zhuhai border crossing, where they claimed they can do a 6-mth multiple entry visa for travellers (without 30-day stay restriction for each entry), cost HKD 1100 and the visa can be done within the hour or so. On the back of their namecard, it states they also specialize in 144hours visa, group visa, standing visa.
The China Travel Service office is located right before the Macau immigration counters (on the left hand side; same hall with the immigration counters).
China Travel Service Guangdong Gongbei Co. Ltd.
Tel: 0756 8156227 / 8156466 Fax: 0756 8156466
I called them up this morning to re-confirm details. They mentioned they are open until 10pm and even said that if I go at nite, I can probably get the visa done even faster (maybe half an hour).
Anyways, will try out this option tomorrow and post about the procedures later on this thread (let's see if this is a better option than getting visa done in HK, whereby I have to get down to Kowloon or Wanchai). Will also ask if they can get 1-year multiple visa done and other info...
Hoeman...
p.s. Lotus Rd, here I come again...woohoo...[/QUOTE]They are reliable,I do business regularly with these people.In fact the manager has been my guest in the Philippines on a Familiarization tour.
"Visit the Sex Islands where there are hundreds of working girls for the picking"
Cebu local, pardon my ignorance but I have never heard of the Sex Islands.
If I am in Zhuhai in relationship to the Lovers Road cafe area, how would I get to the Sex Islands? Do I just jump in a taxi and say "sex islands",etc.
Directions and or any other info would be appreciated.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Woxin]"Visit the Sex Islands where there are hundreds of working girls for the picking"
Cebu local, pardon my ignorance but I have never heard of the Sex Islands.
If I am in Zhuhai in relationship to the Lovers Road cafe area, how would I get to the Sex Islands? Do I just jump in a taxi and say "sex islands",etc.
Directions and or any other info would be appreciated.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Hi
These are islands off the coast of Zhuhai but within City Limits that have Basic hotels and hundreds of women,Patronized mostly by Taiwanese males.You have to go a travel agency to arrange a trip to the ferry terminal then take a ferry ride to these islands,Sorry I dont have their Chinese name because My partner just calls them Sex Islands for Tourists.Ask around I am sure somebody will know Johnny Help?????
[quote=cebu local]they are reliable,i do business regularly with these people.in fact the manager has been my guest in the philippines on a familiarization tour.[/quote]
yup, cl... they are very efficient. i concur that they are reliable. the visa run i did yesterday was wonderfully smooth-running. i only waited 30mins for my 6-mth biz visa (no 30-day stay restriction). i must say their service is excellent, but the visa is quite pricey for 6 mths visa - hkd1,100
(i can get the factory manager to get it done for rmb500 in dongguan, but extremely hassling and takes 3-5days, and need to go to 3 different psbs to get official stamps).
well, guess one does have to pay extra for convenience and speed.
i spent 30mins crossing the border to macau (ard 15mins on each side), then 30mins waiting for visa to be done, and another 30mins to get back into zhuhai. the visa office is open until 10pm and the lady behind the counter said that if you get in just before 10pm, they will still try to get your visa done.
oh, did ask about visa application for us citizens/passport holders here on the forum. sad to say, they dun do visas for americans here. they told me americans have to go to the china consulate in macau to get visas done.
hoeman...
* spent abt half hour checking lotus rd out, but didn't see anything i like on the menu (i was there quite early, ard 4pm). did see the inner mongolian gal i did the previous trip but she was with some customer at one of the bars with the green umbrellas...
@ hoeman
[quote=hoeman]yup, cl... they are very efficient. i concur that they are reliable. the visa run i did yesterday was wonderfully smooth-running. i only waited 30mins for my 6-mth biz visa (no 30-day stay restriction). i must say their service is excellent, but the visa is quite pricey for 6 mths visa - hkd1,100
(i can get the factory manager to get it done for rmb500 in dongguan, but extremely hassling and takes 3-5days, and need to go to 3 different psbs to get official stamps).
well, guess one does have to pay extra for convenience and speed. [...][/quote]1) [url]http://www.jta.biz/chinavisa/china_visa.htm[/url]
2) bring your passport (with your current visa) and one photo
3) wait 6 hours
4) pay hkd 650
5) get your new cn f visa, 6 month, multiple entry
above applies only when you are not from "special countries" or from us. see website for more informations.
if you have time, meaning you stay in hk, it will be cheaper.
lw
[QUOTE=Chung 2]Don't go there after midnight because there are some girl with pimp will hook you up with their trap... [/QUOTE]
Hi Chung,
Care to elaborate on what type of scam your are referring to?
Last time in ZH I had an LT with a gal from LHL. Horrible experience, but anyways, she called mommy on the cell phone and told her my room number. She then asked me what my last name was and I gave her a fake one.
Any advice on safety when dealing with LHL gals?
thanks
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Hi,
These are islands off the coast of Zhuhai but within City Limits that have Basic hotels and hundreds of women,Patronized mostly by Taiwanese males.You have to go a travel agency to arrange a trip to the ferry terminal then take a ferry ride to these islands,Sorry I dont have their Chinese name because My partner just calls them Sex Islands for Tourists.Ask around I am sure somebody will know Johnny Help?????[/QUOTE]I think that the island you mentioned is called 'xia chuan dao'...it is a small island a few hours ride by bus and you get to a ferry terminal for a ferry ride which takes about 30min. When you arrive on this island, you will be taken to a 'village' where all the girls that you see are available. I was there many years back and it is overun by Taiwanese. Accommodation is very simple, nothing fancy but the seafood is cheap.
It is a good experience with the thought that any woman that you see walking without any partner is available. Back then, I had three woman and it was cheap. About RMB$300.00 for the whole night, but am not sure about the price now. Been wanting to go back to this island but never manage to.
Ks457,
KTV in Guangdong usually starts pretty early, especially in the smaller cities. There are lots of KTVs that open at 6:30 or so and by 8:00 or so, most of the pretty girls have already been taken. It's a little different in Shenzhen, where you can show up at most places at 9-10 and still be able to find decent girls.
Also, just FYI, when they mention the room charge, that's usually, but not always, the room minimum. For example, if room minimum is 600, if you order 500 yuan worth of stuff, you still get charged 600. If you order over 600, you get charged whatever you ordered.
One last thing, taking girls back from KTV is big time YMMV. I've had really exceptional nights with KTV girls and nights where I just wanted to get the girl out of my bed ASAP. KTV is more about hanging out with buds and getting drunk than getting laid. You almost have to consider the getting laid part as a side dish rather than the main course.
[QUOTE=Moody]Ks457,
KTV in Guangdong usually starts pretty early, especially in the smaller cities. There are lots of KTVs that open at 6:30 or so and by 8:00 or so, most of the pretty girls have already been taken. It's a little different in Shenzhen, where you can show up at most places at 9-10 and still be able to find decent girls.
Also, just FYI, when they mention the room charge, that's usually, but not always, the room minimum. For example, if room minimum is 600, if you order 500 yuan worth of stuff, you still get charged 600. If you order over 600, you get charged whatever you ordered.
One last thing, taking girls back from KTV is big time YMMV. I've had really exceptional nights with KTV girls and nights where I just wanted to get the girl out of my bed ASAP. KTV is more about hanging out with buds and getting drunk than getting laid. You almost have to consider the getting laid part as a side dish rather than the main course.[/QUOTE]Wow, pointers from the venerable Moody! Hahaha, I'm honored. Read many of your reports on the Shenzhen thread, and I gathered a lot of information from those also that I really want to try when I visit Shenzhen (if it wasn't for the large size of Shenzhen, and what everyone at work's telling me about the crime that happens there...)
Yeah, I figured the room charge would be more if I ordered hard liquor like scotch (though fake they may be), but as I said, I'm not a big drinker and I was happy with red wine.
It was the first time going to a KTV alone for me too, and yeah, I love going with a bunch of friends, getting drunk, singing karaoke, but I've heard so much about the "mob choices" in Chinese KTVs that I just had to try even if I was alone. KTV girls being YMMV, very true. My usual MO is to enjoy the KTV girl, usually a "gold fish" then get my release at the soapie baths once the fun at the KTV is over, as number of times I've done KTV girls, both ST and LT, it just never turned out to be a good exp, unless the girl was seduced over and became a freebie. What I mean is, if I didn't make an effort to seduce/impress the KTV girl, the FJ part afterwards is usually pretty lousy. But they are lower mileage than sauna girls, I guess.
Thanks for commenting on my report, and it would kick ass if we can meet up in SZ, DG, or CP for a night of par-tay!:)
KS
[QUOTE=Woxin]"Visit the Sex Islands where there are hundreds of working girls for the picking"
Cebu local, pardon my ignorance but I have never heard of the Sex Islands.
If I am in Zhuhai in relationship to the Lovers Road cafe area, how would I get to the Sex Islands? Do I just jump in a taxi and say "sex islands",etc.
Directions and or any other info would be appreciated.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Just to let you know that this Island is not worth going to. I have been there once. It is about 2 hour drive from Zhu Hai, then you have to take a ferry for about 1 hour over to the island. The hotels there are very small, mostly about 10-20 rooms. There is nothing special except the girls to there to work so their family will not find out about them. The cost is the same as other places like Zhu Hai, CP and SZ. It is 200rmb for short time and 400-500 for long time. There is nothing to do except there is a beach. Used to be a great place before lot of girls coming to work in ZH, CP and SZ. Now it is just a run down place with the same as all other places, just less to do and places to eat.
[QUOTE=Theman134]I just got back from Zhu Hai afer 4 days trip. One question it seems the price for over night has gone up in Zhu hai, the ST is still 200 for LHL. but for overnight I could not get anyone for under 1000. is the normal or did I just get ripe off. this was my experence for all 4 days. I did 4 ST for 200 and 3 overnight for 1000 on LHL. even the KTV girl in wongFu ask for 1000 for overnight. Next time i think maybe I will go and place around ShenZhen.[/QUOTE]
to therman134
You should able to get Lt for 500-600 rmb on Liu Hua rd and 200 st unless it was saturday night most girl only like to go st , Ktv girl if they are hot can get 1000 a night .
fast eddie 48
[quote=chung 2]golden sands ktv- plenty of girl and take home on cost 1000rmb. service are good, gfe are great.
i had a " handicaped meal" where those 17-18old girl will feed you during your lunch. peeling prawn, feed rice to you, what u need to do is just only busy with you both hand touching their boobs. tips only 100rmb for the whole session with them taking off their bra. lunch is about 150rmb per pax.
spa with 36 style is a new thing i had tried over there. scaring stunt perform with the automatic bed. the girl will perform some acrobatic stunt by hanging on the robe just on top of the bed and gave u a blow, what a experience. the total package is 500rmb with 2 pop.
the vilage (30min from zhuhai) zhong shan is another nice place to monger where all the ktv girl didn't need to wear makeup and they are so innocent and pretty. take home only cost 800rmb with they will stay with you till the next day 12pm.[/quote]wow, that "handicapped meal" sounds interesting. although i've read the entire zhu hai forum, i don't think i've heard it mention. would you mind sharing more information about the place? i.e. where is it? do you get a selection of girls? etc. that would be something i'd definitely like to try out.
thanks!
I was planning to make a trip to Macau soon, and was wondering if anyone can recommend any saunas with a good selection of Russian girls?
If this is not the right place to ask questions about Macau, I apologize.
Not anywhere near Zhu Hai at all. At least 2 1/2 hours away by land and sea. It is near Toi Shan. Attraction is that the gals are RMB400 LT for a full 24 hours and will literally do anything including non-sex e.g. cook, clean and wash clothes.
Just hearing that Taiwanese frequent there puts me off, 'cause if there is a country that mongers come from that overpays that is it. Tightwads in business but showoffs and overpayers mongering. Why do you think KTV in Chiang Ping is well supported and more expensive. So for all those out there that give anyone a hard time for overpaying, you should spend more time logging onto Chinese sites and giving the Taiwanese a fecking hard time, not some newbie.
[QUOTE=Laowai123]@ Hoeman
1) [url]http://www.jta.biz/chinavisa/china_visa.htm[/url]
2) Bring your passport (with your current visa) and one photo
3) wait 6 hours
4) pay HKD 650
5) get your new CN F Visa, 6 month, multiple entry
Above applies only when you are not from "special countries" or from US. See website for more informations.
If you have time, meaning you stay in HK, it will be cheaper.
LW[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info, LW123. I will KIV the info for future use. One reason I used the Zhuhai/Macau run was bcos it's fast. I dun warrant staying 6 hours in HK, cos I know I will spend more on hidden costs like food, taxi, some shopping, & most probably some mongering ...hahaha... Also, as you mentioned, there is the time factor, the last buses from SHZ to Dongguan are usually at 8.15pm or so. That means I have to rush back from HK. If not, then have to pay extra for hotel accomodations...
Good to know that there are available options to do visas into China. After all, the reason for this forum is to share info...
Once again, thanks very much, LW123...
Hoeman...
@ Hoeman
[QUOTE=Hoeman]Thanks for the info, LW123. I will KIV the info for future use. One reason I used the Zhuhai/Macau run was bcos it's fast. I dun warrant staying 6 hours in HK, cos I know I will spend more on hidden costs like food, taxi, some shopping, & most probably some mongering ...hahaha... Also, as you mentioned, there is the time factor, the last buses from SHZ to Dongguan are usually at 8.15pm or so. That means I have to rush back from HK. If not, then have to pay extra for hotel accomodations...[/QUOTE]The funny thing is, that these visas are issued in Zhuhai...at least my new one just few days old.
You will have trains form SHZ to DG after 8:15pm, as I live in DG (Zhangmutou) and the last train to ZMT leaves at 10:30pm. Check this site [url]http://train.chinamor.cn.net/cztt.asp[/url] - its in chinese but easy to handle when you can read Hanzi / Chinese characters or know the one of your destinations.
LW
Hi,
Just wondering if anyone has any stories to share regarding the cuties working in those sidewalk juice bars/cafes on LHL. Has anyone been successful in hooking up with one of them? I see a lot of drop dead young cuties there, they're even cuter than most of the streetwalkers. Last time I was there I was trying to strike up a conversation with one of the cuties at a juice bar. The problem is there were 2 other guys trying to hit on her at the same time. I was able to get a picture of her (she transferred it to my cell phone). Does anyone recognize her?
[QUOTE=Laowai123]@ Hoeman
The funny thing is, that these visas are issued in Zhuhai...at least my new one just few days old.
You will have trains form SHZ to DG after 8:15pm, as I live in DG (Zhangmutou) and the last train to ZMT leaves at 10:30pm. Check this site [url]http://train.chinamor.cn.net/cztt.asp[/url] - its in chinese but easy to handle when you can read Hanzi / Chinese characters or know the one of your destinations.
LW[/QUOTE]
LW123, the train option isn't available to me, cos I live in Humen, DG. There is no train going thru Humen (I think the nearest station is in ChangPing and that is abt 50mins away by bus.
But thanks for the site to check out the train schedule. Never know when I might need it.
Hoeman...
Dear Bros,
I will be going to Zhuhai year end. Would anyone be kind enough to share the full phone number of any Chang-ang hotel or New World Hotel near LHL?
Stayed there earlier this yr but misplaced d namecards. Lots of thanks in advance.
Looking fwd to a good time there.
[QUOTE=Seeker A]Dear Bros,
I will be going to Zhuhai year end. Would anyone be kind enough to share the full phone number of any Chang-ang hotel or New World Hotel near LHL?
Stayed there earlier this yr but misplaced d namecards. Lots of thanks in advance.
Looking fwd to a good time there.[/QUOTE]--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe you can call to elong.net and ask the phone number.
0086-10-64329999 ext.6 or 400-810-1119(Mainland China only)
Sorry but other experts in ISG will help you.
[QUOTE=Pyro27]--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe you can call to elong.net and ask the phone number.
0086-10-64329999 ext.6 or 400-810-1119(Mainland China only)
Sorry but other experts in ISG will help you.[/QUOTE]Phone number for Changan Good World hotel:
07568880222
You might have to drop the zero when making an international call.
BTW if you get a chance you should tip the bellboy there, he's a really nice chap!
Have fun!
[QUOTE=Seeker A]Dear Bros,
I will be going to Zhuhai year end. Would anyone be kind enough to share the full phone number of any Chang-ang hotel or New World Hotel near LHL?
Stayed there earlier this yr but misplaced d namecards. Lots of thanks in advance.
Looking fwd to a good time there.[/QUOTE]The number to Chang An Hotel is 0756-8118828. I don't know why you'd ask, since if you speak Putonghua well enough to converse on the phone, you can just hop on the cab once you get there and go to get a room. Chang An didn't seem like a place that you needed a reservation for, unless you really wanted a cheap, central location for a weekend mongering.
[QUOTE=Ks457]The number to Chang An Hotel is 0756-8118828. I don't know why you'd ask, since if you speak Putonghua well enough to converse on the phone, you can just hop on the cab once you get there and go to get a room. Chang An didn't seem like a place that you needed a reservation for, unless you really wanted a cheap, central location for a weekend mongering.[/QUOTE]KS457,
I already read your great reports (It was really great! Thank you!) and know you stayed in the hotel. So do you think we don;t have to make any reservation even during weekends? If yes, I will stay in the hotel.
Thanks again.
Pyro27
[QUOTE=Ks457]Wow, that "handicapped meal" sounds interesting. Although I've read the entire Zhu Hai forum, I don't think I've heard it mention. Would you mind sharing more information about the place? i.e. Where is it? Do you get a selection of girls? etc. That would be something I'd definitely like to try out.
Thanks![/QUOTE]The place is somewhere near Zhong Shan, about 20 minute drive from Zhuhai, lots of factory. Yes definately you can choose the girl. need to get a tourguide for you to get there. Lots of taiwanese know the place.
[QUOTE=Ks457]if it wasn't for the large size of Shenzhen, and what everyone at work's telling me about the crime that happens there...
...it would kick ass if we can meet up in SZ, DG, or CP for a night of par-tay!:)
KS[/QUOTE]
Shenzhen is like any other big city. Yes there's crime I'm sure, but it's not like the wild wild west with guys holding you up on every corner. If you take just a little care, you'll be fine. Since I've been coming here (about 3+ years now) I've never once had anything happen. The worst that has happened to me was I got ripped off by 5 yuan by a cab driver who told me he didn't have change for a hundred....
If you feel like coming out to Shenzhen and I'm here, just let me know. We can meet up and hang. I have to admit though, lately, Shenzhen has been a bit boring. Lots more fun to be had in Dongguan.
[QUOTE=Pyro27]KS457,
I already read your great reports (It was really great! Thank you!) and know you stayed in the hotel. So do you think we don;t have to make any reservation even during weekends? If yes, I will stay in the hotel.
Thanks again.
Pyro27[/QUOTE]Well, I guess it nevers hurts to prepare. The two trips I went to, I did not make a reserveration and walked straight in. The first time had a single room, no problem, and it was a saturday morning. The second time, on a Friday night, they had only a double room available, and no single room available (but the double was actually 50 yuan cheaper, maybe due to weekend rates), but that may have been because there is a KTV in the hotel and they use it up for the KTV patrons going LT.
As I said, doesn't hurt to prepare and make a reservation, but ChangAn Hotel is kinda old and dingy. The rooms are okay and clean, and will serve its purposes, but definitely not 4-5 star. GD Regency up LHL (and no, I don't have the number) looked a bit more upscale. Depends on what you're willing to spend, I guess. Enjoy!
-KS
[QUOTE=Chung 2]The place is somewhere near Zhong Shan, about 20 minute drive from Zhuhai, lots of factory. Yes definately you can choose the girl. need to get a tourguide for you to get there. Lots of taiwanese know the place.[/QUOTE]Hmm, so you have no other information? Like the name of the place, address, or at least the name of the guide who took you there (a one that speaks English, preferably)? I've been to Zhu Hai only a couple of times and had a good time there, and I would have no problem showing a cab driver a piece of sheet with an address to drive me to Zhong Shan, but I do not speak any Chinese, and it'll be tough for me to try to find the place without any directions.
Also sucks for me that I work in HK and do not know any taiwanese...well, at least not the ones that I can ask this kind of question to! :( Would be great if you or any senior members knowledgeable in the Zhong Shan area can post more info on this/these types of places. In all my reading of the HK/Zhu Hai/Shenzhen/DG forum, it's the first time i've read about this kind of place, and would be a nice place for me to venture out to next!
KS
Wow, after reading Ks457's report (both of them) I feel that if I dont make a trip to Macau and Zhu Hai at least once during my time in Hong Kong I'm really going to regret it. However, unlike Ks457 I'm not gutsy enough to make a weekend trip solo (only been in Hong Kong for 1 month). Is there any fellow partakers planning a weekend thing to M and ZH that wouldn't mind a monger buddy. It would be great if I could join you on another one of your trips Ks457. Sometimes mongering is more enjoyable with a monger buddy.
[QUOTE=Moody]Shenzhen is like any other big city. Yes there's crime I'm sure, but it's not like the wild wild west with guys holding you up on every corner. If you take just a little care, you'll be fine. Since I've been coming here (about 3+ years now) I've never once had anything happen. The worst that has happened to me was I got ripped off by 5 yuan by a cab driver who told me he didn't have change for a hundred....
If you feel like coming out to Shenzhen and I'm here, just let me know. We can meet up and hang. I have to admit though, lately, Shenzhen has been a bit boring. Lots more fun to be had in Dongguan.[/QUOTE]Friend,I think this is Zhuhai.
[QUOTE=Chung 2]The place is somewhere near Zhong Shan, about 20 minute drive from Zhuhai, lots of factory. Yes definately you can choose the girl. need to get a tourguide for you to get there. Lots of taiwanese know the place.[/QUOTE]Ya! It will be great dinner party. Do you think I can not find the place by my self (alone)? If no, please give is more information (place name, guide info, contact info..).
Thanks a lot.
[QUOTE=Rocket12]Wow, after reading Ks457's report (both of them) I feel that if I dont make a trip to Macau and Zhu Hai at least once during my time in Hong Kong I'm really going to regret it. However, unlike Ks457 I'm not gutsy enough to make a weekend trip solo (only been in Hong Kong for 1 month). Is there any fellow partakers planning a weekend thing to M and ZH that wouldn't mind a monger buddy. It would be great if I could join you on another one of your trips Ks457. Sometimes mongering is more enjoyable with a monger buddy.[/QUOTE]Rocket12,
Thanks for your compliment. FYI, I've been in Hong Kong for only 2 1/2 months as well. (about 2 months when I went on the trip). Although I'm an Asian American, I speak all of 5 words (literally) of Cantonese and Putonghua, and I got by on that trip just purely based on the information based on this forum. As you can see from my posts, I am a newbie to the forum as well, and for all other newbies, please just RTFF. I spent maybe total of 4 1/2 hours reading the entire Zhu Hai section, another 2 hours browsing through Macau section, creating a separate word document to cut/paste any maps, information I would need, and brought only that on my trip, and I had load of fun.
While I would love to go on another Macau-Zhu Hai run, I really can't find the time to go these days, and there are many other parts of southern China that I'd like to explore as well (Shenzhen, Dongguan (Changping), Zhong Shan - if I only can find the handicapped meal place!)... so I don't know when I can go. However, for HK mongers, Macau-Zhu Hai is very convenient, if not somewhat tiring. I think going on a solo trip can be very fun, but I guess that would depend on your personality. For me, I love the sense of openness, the thrill, and the adventure when going out into the unknown (abeit well-prepared and cautious).
HK is a great starting point for mongering in S. China, and ISG is a great resource. Take the time to soak in the wealth of information provided and I am sure that you'll be well rewarded. Cheerio!
-KS
I took the early boat on Sat morning to Zhu Hai, arrived around 10 and went straight to LH road. All the juice bars were open but very few SWs thus choice was limited. After finishing 2 glasses of the "freshly squeezed" juice, me and my buddy went for some dim sum at a restaurant located at end of LH road. On the way to the restaurant, we were aggressively followed by two 19 year olds with looks in the 7 category but we finally not to go as we were hungry and had many other venues in agenda.
After a cheap and not so tasty lunch, we decided go for a tour of ZH Saunas. After seeing ChangAn new world, XiangJing and Jing YU(the one opposite of ChangAn new world). We decided to try Jing YU first, the line-up weren't very impressive as they had only 6 girls at round 1:oopm on a Sat afternoon. I picked a sichanesse with a decent size pair of racks. Service was thourough but a bit too mechanical. So I banged her mechanical in return. I must the room was unique with mirrors installed 360 degree but wasn't clean enough.Cost was 298
At 3:30pm, My buddy wanted to go back XiangJing as we quite liked the rooms there during our earlier check out. Again very little choice, maybe only 2 line-ups of 5 each abeit a slight improvement in looks. this time I took a Petite Anhui girl. She was very tender and polite which I like. However, because she only weighs 80 something pounds and I am about 2 twice of the her size, she had a bit problem to breath during missionary position. we did 2 rounds and she had an orgasm during the 2nd and I was poped happily. It costed us RMB328 but I had somewhat better experience.
It was 5:00pm, we decided to take a taxi to ZhongShan for an overnight stay. After checking in at The International hotel which was nice as usual, we decide to go for dinner and then check out the night club scenes. The result of the search was the See Club(or the triumph club) as it is the biggest, newest and grandest club in town. It is located right behind the Interantional Hotel with very classy disco, KTV and sauna inside. The rooms were kind of expensive of RMB 880 but were very luxury. we decided to give a try. Any way to cut the story short I met a really GFE and sexy Hebei girl there and had one of the best fuck with her(3 times during nights with 3 orgasm from her)1000 was what I paid for but was worth every penny.
BTW, during this I took 10mg of Cialis first time and worked really well on me. but I am feeling a bit tired now..:)
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As a lover of the Red Rope treatment the Jin Yu Hotel in Zhuhai is on my list for Zhuhai next week.
Is the Hotel only good for the Sauna, or is it also a good hotel to stay?
Another suggestion of a good hotel is also welcomed.
Is the Jin Yu Hotel far away from Ferry pier or Gongbei customs?
I arrive in HKG around 4 pm and would like to go directly to Zhuhai.
Thanks for your input.
[QUOTE=Henning]As a lover of the Red Rope treatment the Jin Yu Hotel in Zhuhai is on my list for Zhuhai next week.
Is the Hotel only good for the Sauna, or is it also a good hotel to stay?
Another suggestion of a good hotel is also welcomed.
Is the Jin Yu Hotel far away from Ferry pier or Gongbei customs?
I arrive in HKG around 4 pm and would like to go directly to Zhuhai.
Thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]
It's a nice hotel right on LHL. Check out the two upper cathegories of rooms. Good value, although they may require a safety deposit which is a bit above the daily rate for each day if you don't use plastic (like 400 RMB/night for a 268 RMB room)
[QUOTE=Pyro27]Ya! It will be great dinner party. Do you think I can not find the place by my self (alone)? If no, please give is more information (place name, guide info, contact info..).
Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]Call FEI MAO (fat cat) 13112909zerozero1 once you reach there. He will guide you with the price and appointment when you are there. Just Mentioned Yang ta ge from Malaysia gave u the contact.
Ask and find out the price from him as me just met him through net last time.
Regards,
Chung 2
[QUOTE=Henning]As a lover of the Red Rope treatment the Jin Yu Hotel in Zhuhai is on my list for Zhuhai next week.
Is the Hotel only good for the Sauna, or is it also a good hotel to stay?
Another suggestion of a good hotel is also welcomed.
Is the Jin Yu Hotel far away from Ferry pier or Gongbei customs?
to henning
Jin Yu hotel is not far from the border just take the taxi 10 rmb about 8 min,
if you never have red rope before Zhu Hai is not nearly as good as Shanghai I
have try the Dragon union sauna few week ago the girl is not as experience as they were in Shanghai and the service is not as good as Dongguan area sauna .
[QUOTE=Chung 2]Call FEI MAO (fat cat) 13112909zerozero1 once you reach there. He will guide you with the price and appointment when you are there. Just Mentioned Yang ta ge from Malaysia gave u the contact.
Ask and find out the price from him as me just met him through net last time.
Regards,
Chung 2[/QUOTE]Chung 2,
Thank you for the great information.
I just tried to send PM, but your PM box was full.
I think the place will be 'Must see' place.
Does 'fat cat' speak english?
And I understand there are several good KTV near Zhong Shan. Do you know any recommended KTV?
Thank you again.
Best Regards,
Pyro27
[QUOTE=Ks457]Well, I guess it nevers hurts to prepare. The two trips I went to, I did not make a reserveration and walked straight in. The first time had a single room, no problem, and it was a saturday morning. The second time, on a Friday night, they had only a double room available, and no single room available (but the double was actually 50 yuan cheaper, maybe due to weekend rates), but that may have been because there is a KTV in the hotel and they use it up for the KTV patrons going LT.
As I said, doesn't hurt to prepare and make a reservation, but ChangAn Hotel is kinda old and dingy. The rooms are okay and clean, and will serve its purposes, but definitely not 4-5 star. GD Regency up LHL (and no, I don't have the number) looked a bit more upscale. Depends on what you're willing to spend, I guess. Enjoy!
-KS[/QUOTE]KS,
Thank you for the fast response.
I hope we can meet and hang out together someday.
Let's enjoy party!
Best Regards,
Pyro27
Hi all,
Planning a short 4-day trip to ZH in early November. I've read this thread back to back but have a few more questions:
1) Planning on staying at the Changan Great Aim Hotel (chang2 an1 hua2 ce4) - has anyone stayed here and can comment on the quality of rooms/service, etc.?
2) Some of my impressions on reading this thread: ST and LT can be had for approx. RMB 200/600 respectively on LHL, RMB 1000 is the norm for KTVs. Anyone with any ONS or FL experience at the discos care to comment? I'm ok with high sound volumes so I'm game to hunt this way. ;)
3) Will be travelling alone but speak Putonghua fluently and can get by on Cantonese. Are KTVs out for the single hobbyist coz I don't want to look like a dork if going to them alone isnt the norm.
Thanks!
Hey Raver,
KTVs are possible for the solo member, I have done it a few times, but definitely its better with a few more friends.
I'll be in zhuhai around nov 7th or so for a few days. Shoot me your snailer in a PM if you want some company. I tried to PM you, but it looks like you cant receive em.
'lad
Well .... nothing much to report about. OAH, Wadman and I rode into town, met up with Wheelock, Reader123, and Johnnykon.
We headed for LHL for couple of drinks. It was not until pass 10:30pm the mamas and SWs starts to come out and pester those drinking at the green Umbrellas. We did notice a few great looking ones.
It was kind of interesting that there were 6 ISG members ploughing down LHL looking for pussies. After which we had the honour of Johnnykon to show us couple of Saunas. Before I retire to my bedroom waiting for my previously arranged SWs to knock on my door.
The story is always the same with SWs from LHL. They will try to pester you to pay upfront before they start work. On refusing their proposal of down payment, they will go into those cock and bull stories about that they were cheated into working here in LHL and trying to make enough money to go home, blah blah blah… Heard these stories over and over again… I still refused to give in, I just told her; the door’s there, if she wants to go on, please leave. Seeing that she is not getting anywhere, she reluctantly does her work and try to get you off as fast as possible. I reminded her that I had her for LT and her tip will depends on her performance. After which I can see a change of attitude turning from “Its just a job” to “a little bit more GFE for the tip”….
3.5 hours and 3 pops later (Started at 12am), paid her 400 (including tips and transport) I kicked her out of the room telling her to think of some better stories next time. Well, the going rats at LHL was 200 for ST (1 pop) I knew, but I agreed on LT in the first place. If she was not such a story teller and a finish off fast girl, I would had kept her a little longer and paid her the market rate of 500 for LT. But that also means that she left me some time to post this report before I crash due of lack of sleep in the past few night of partying in Shanghai and taking an early flight out to here this morning.
Girls Data:
Name: Jiao Jiao
Age: Claimed 18
Origin: North Eastern China
Mama Cell# 137xxxxx777
Skills: 3/10
Looks: 7/10
Bust & size: B cups with Pink tits
Tomorrow; more stories to tell… time to crash!
AG
Special Thanks to Reader123, Johnnykon and Wheelock for the sightseeing tour of LHL and some Saunas.
The Holiday Resort Hotel isn't that nice. What is nice is their sauna which is located at the very back of their BIG complex. One whole building dedicated to entertaining you with their model looking girls.
We actually booked rooms at the Holiday Resort our first time in Zhuhai but then left after seeing the rooms and booked at another hotel.
The Holiday Resort Sauna is still my favorite, but it is definitely more pricey than the other saunas in Zhuhai.
[QUOTE=Chopsuey]I noticed the report on the Grand Bay hotel. I have never stayed there, but would consider it. However, on my last trip having read about the holiday resort hotel, I thought I would try it. Big mistake. I usually stay at the Harbor view hotel and will do so next time or the one just down the street from it the International hotel by the conference centre. The holiday resort hotel is overrated. Yes, you can have a masseuse come to your room. But that's it; don't expect anything other than a massage. It was an o.k. massage, a nice lady, but no intimacy and she seemed offended that I was on the bed totally nude and wanted me to cover up which I said no. The massage was pricey. I don't remember exactly, but what I did was have the foot massage downstairs in the spa area and the same lady come to my room for the body massage. That way I could decide who would be coming with me.
The next day I went to the spa at the Harborview and wish I had brought more cash with me. They had changed things a bit since the last time I was there. The receptionist had asked if I wanted a sex massage and quoted 800 RMB, I said no as I wasn't carrying that much cash with me expecting to pay only about 400 to 500 RMB inclusive of tip. Although it wasn't a full service massage, the lady was really nice, gave me an excellent massage and seemed to enjoy my caressing of her legs and made a point of letting me know that next time I come back, to ask for her. She was from Sichuan and had a wonderful touch.
I will be back in China the end of October and if there are any suggestions of where to go, please advise.[/QUOTE]
Henning,
Just stayed at the Jin Yu Hotel. Paid 318 RMB for the room. The room is very big with a separate sitting area, almost like a mini-suite. The bathroom had a big jacuzzi tub, but no enclosed shower stall so it floods when you take a shower. Contrary to what I had been told, the room I was in had not been renovated and the carpet and furniture was a bit ragged. The free broadband worked fine and the location right on LHL is great. Overall, the place was relatively good value for the money, but I might go a little more upscale on my next visit to Zhuhai.
The sauna was 298 RMB inclusive of FS. I took a girl from Shandong whose service was pretty lame and she was not very good with the red ropes either. Wadman had a similar experience. I will spare you all the details, however, I will not repeat at this sauna.
OAH
[QUOTE=Henning]As a lover of the Red Rope treatment the Jin Yu Hotel in Zhuhai is on my list for Zhuhai next week.
Is the Hotel only good for the Sauna, or is it also a good hotel to stay?
Another suggestion of a good hotel is also welcomed.
Is the Jin Yu Hotel far away from Ferry pier or Gongbei customs?
I arrive in HKG around 4 pm and would like to go directly to Zhuhai.
Thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]
[quote=oldasiahand]the sauna was 298 rmb inclusive of fs. i took a girl from shandong whose service was pretty lame and she was not very good with the red ropes either. wadman had a similar experience. i will spare you all the details, however, i will not repeat at this sauna.
oah[/quote]"not very good" doesn't quite describe my experience at the sauna, so let me give a few more details.
- no bj in the shower (so obviously it was going to be single pop session only)
- no ar
- the body licking treatment was done very half-assed.
- red rope lasted for less than 5 minutes. the girl sits on the red rope (much like a child on a swing) and hangs onto the rope with her hands. after less than 5 minutes, she complained that her hands were getting tired from holding on.
after about 10-15 minutes of fs, girl complained that i am too big (in my dreams...) and that it hurts. since i am a bj lover, i said: fine, just take of the condom and do a bj. which she did for about half an hour. one thing she kept saying was "don't come in my mouth, don't come in my mouth". i jokingly said, well, how about on your face then?
at one point she said that since there were only 20 minutes left, she didn't think she could get me off and didn't want to be yelled at. so she proposed to switch to another girl (as in, have another girl take her place). initially, i refused, but after she bitched a few times i agreed (thinking that the service from her would be crap from now on anyway).
so in comes a female manager who tells me that it will be another 298 rmb if i want to switch girls. i yell: "what! but it's not me who wants to switch, it's her, and i am not paying an extra 298." so she says wait a bit, she will bring in the male (higher ranking) manager. this is the guy who showed us the girls in the line-ups. he too tells me it's another 298 rmb if i want to bring in another girl. i counter with "i never wanted to switch girls, it's she who wants to". the manager yells at the sauna girl a bit, and she says she will continue the service. all this happens in the sauna room, with me sitting on the bed, with only a towel draped over me.
anyway, after another 20 minutes of bj, i pop. the girl avoided looking at me until i hugged and caressed her. she then warmed up, and we talked for a bit. not sure why she did what she did, since i am always nice to the girls.
oh yeah, just before leaving, she said i could either pay her directly or at the counter. i asked her how much, she says 300 rmb. i handed over the money, and asked her if that included the room charge. she said no, and she did not know how much the room charge was either. at this point i wanted to avoid more arguments, so i told her to give me the money back and i'll pay at the counter instead.
tip 1: if the girl asks you if you have been to the town before, lie and say yes! say you live there now, or come very often. my theory is this will lead to better service.
tip 2: if the girl asks if you have been to this sauna before, lie and say yes! say you have been 3, 4, 5, whatever times. if she says she has never seen you, well, what a coincidence, you haven't seen her either. it just worked out that way. my theory is that if you say it's your first time there, she will skip a lot of steps since you don't know what the sop is anyway.
place: jin yu hotel sauna
girl: number 120
from: guanxi
looks: face 7, body 7
damage: 298 rmb (room+girl)
i do want to thank johnnykon for showing us around in zhuhai. in no way do i mean this sarcastically. there was a police crackdown going on at lianhualu, so we didn't see many sws, but it's not like johnnykon has control over that. as for the sauna, well sometimes you get a good experience, and sometimes you don't. again, thanks johnnykon for showing us the sws, sauna's, bbss, and restaurants.
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Thank you Pyro27, Zhuhaifan & Ks457 for the contact numbers.
Wil try to book rooms for year-end trip. ZH LHL SW n saunas are indeed exciting. Looking fwd.
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Hi all,
Planning a short 4-day trip to ZH in early November. I've read this thread back to back but have a few more questions:
1) Planning on staying at the Changan Great Aim Hotel (chang2 an1 hua2 ce4) - has anyone stayed here and can comment on the quality of rooms/service, etc.?
2) Some of my impressions on reading this thread: ST and LT can be had for approx. RMB 200/600 respectively on LHL, RMB 1000 is the norm for KTVs. Anyone with any ONS or FL experience at the discos care to comment? I'm ok with high sound volumes so I'm game to hunt this way. ;)
3) Will be travelling alone but speak Putonghua fluently and can get by on Cantonese. Are KTVs out for the single hobbyist coz I don't want to look like a dork if going to them alone isnt the norm.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Hey Raver,
My recommendations about picking up freebies or freelancers would be:
1) ShuiWan Bar Street ("ShuiWan Jiu Ba Jie"). About 6 nightclubs located next to each other. You will know you are in the right place when you see "Cohiba" restaurant and bar (cohiba is the cuban cigar name), and the Heineken signs/lamps along the street. It is a 10 RMB taxi from Gongbei, 5 minutes.
Here, you will probably check out the bar called "RED BAR". It's at the northern-most end of this lineup of bars/clubs. It usually has the most action.
2) Across the street from RED BAR, is another upper-class disco called "LV CLUB". Sometimes is worth checking out, but not always.. when you enter, to the LEFT is the BAR, and to the RIGHT is the KTV. I only know the LEFT/BAR side (never tried KTV here).
3) Also in Gongbei along the main road/Highway (Da Dao) that goes north/south from the Gongbei/Macau into Zhuhai is a bar/disco called "MingTian" ("Yesterday"). It can be worth checking out for freebies, freelancers. From LianHua Lu, it is also just 5 minutes and a 10 RMB taxi ride.
These are the 3 bars/clubs I reccommend. I also like to hunt for the local free girl experience. I've picked up girls in all 3 places. I think some were semi-professional who just liked me and shared herself for free... others asked me for money upfront or the next morning.
Let me know if you find any other good bar/club scene to try. One thing is I did not look into the 'ex-pat/foriegner' areas too much. I heard there is another bar street for ex-pat.. some bar named "Blue Tone", etc... it's possible some free girls go there seeking for some western men, but I don't know because I never went to there (I am a white/western man).
But most often I hang out on LianHua Lu. The girls are pretty, young, and 200 RMB, and no hassle. In the nightclubs, you buy 2 drinks for a girl (25 RMB/each?), and waste a lot of time hunting for a really cute girl. LHL is faster and easier MOST of the time.
Dar
Good post by Dar, but I want to add my own details about theses places, just
to give additional views of the places:
[QUOTE=Dar425]Hey Raver,
My recommendations about picking up freebies or freelancers would be:
1) ShuiWan Bar Street ("ShuiWan Jiu Ba Jie"). About 6 nightclubs located next to each other. You will know you are in the right place when you see "Cohiba" restaurant and bar (cohiba is the cuban cigar name), and the Heineken signs/lamps along the street. It is a 10 RMB taxi from Gongbei, 5 minutes.
Here, you will probably check out the bar called "RED BAR". It's at the northern-most end of this lineup of bars/clubs. It usually has the most action.
[/QUOTE]
This Bar Street is good for going with a group of friends to have an outdoor drink/meal since
the emphasis is on outdoor tables and seating. There are about 10 bars in this area, and the
emphsis is on bar, not really dancing/disco. Most of the places are more like an outdoor beergarden,
so if you're comfortable hunting for gals in this environment with no loud music, darkness, etc. as distractions
and/or cover, then this is your place. I have rarely seen any guy, Chinese or foreigner, brazenly walk up to another
table and chat up women. Remember, there is no music, darkness, or packed crowds to help you blend in. It'd be like
giving everyone an amusing experience. I guess I'm not the type of person to really relish this. Otherwise, the
majority of foreigners I see here (and this is definately the area with the most foreigners in Zhuhai) bring
dates here and don't find company here.
The Red Bar is loacted at the farthest end of this bar street and was one of the few places that DID have
good music, dark environment, attractive gals, and better possiblilty for real freebie action, but, sadly, has
been closed for the past few weeks because of some brawling/fighting incidents between Chinese and
foreigners. It doesn't seem permanently closed but I don't know when it will open again.
[QUOTE=Dar425]
2) Across the street from RED BAR, is another upper-class disco called "LV CLUB". Sometimes is worth checking out, but not always.. when you enter, to the LEFT is the BAR, and to the RIGHT is the KTV. I only know the LEFT/BAR side (never tried KTV here).
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I have to disagree with this recommendation because LV Bar was probably the most pathetic bar I've seen in
China, ever. The facilities and decorations aren't bad and the lounge-y environment is pretty comfortable
actually, but the last 4-5 times I've been there, it was 99% empty. And I'm talking about Friday nights, Saturday
nights...one time at 11:45pm, it closed early! Ha ha...I felt sorry for the bar staff, you could see they were
all depressed and was wishing they were somewhere else. I don't know why it's so empty, but, believe me,
being one of only two or three patrons in a blaring Chinese disco bar is funny for about 5 seconds and then
you'll leave.
[QUOTE=Dar425]
3) Also in Gongbei along the main road/Highway (Da Dao) that goes north/south from the Gongbei/Macau into Zhuhai is a bar/disco called "MingTian" ("Yesterday"). It can be worth checking out for freebies, freelancers. From LianHua Lu, it is also just 5 minutes and a 10 RMB taxi ride.
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Most Zhuhai locals prefer Yesterday or the huge Tian Di Ren Jian disco near the Gongbei bus station. Yesterday is a typical
Chinese bar with loud music and dim lighting. Nothing special about the facilities but there are always crowds here.
You can probably find freebies/freelancers here, about the same as any bar in any part of China. By the way,
Yesterday is right next to Tomorrow bar, by the way, ha ha...and yes, there is a Today bar on Shui Wan Bar
Street. I don't know if they are all owned by person with an smartass sense of humor, but it's a funny
"China touch" to the bar scene.
Overall, if you have limited time, avoid the bars if you're expecting gals to give you a freebie because you're a
foreigner. If you have "game" then you'll pick up gals in ZH bars like anywhere else in the world. All in all,
if you strike out at the bars or are looking for a sure thing, Lian Hua Road is 5 minutes away.
J
[QUOTE=Dar425]Hey Raver,
My recommendations about picking up freebies or freelancers would be:
1) ShuiWan Bar Street ("ShuiWan Jiu Ba Jie"). About 6 nightclubs located next to each other. You will know you are in the right place when you see "Cohiba" restaurant and bar (cohiba is the cuban cigar name), and the Heineken signs/lamps along the street. It is a 10 RMB taxi from Gongbei, 5 minutes.
Here, you will probably check out the bar called "RED BAR". It's at the northern-most end of this lineup of bars/clubs. It usually has the most action.
2) Across the street from RED BAR, is another upper-class disco called "LV CLUB". Sometimes is worth checking out, but not always.. when you enter, to the LEFT is the BAR, and to the RIGHT is the KTV. I only know the LEFT/BAR side (never tried KTV here).
3) Also in Gongbei along the main road/Highway (Da Dao) that goes north/south from the Gongbei/Macau into Zhuhai is a bar/disco called "MingTian" ("Yesterday"). It can be worth checking out for freebies, freelancers. From LianHua Lu, it is also just 5 minutes and a 10 RMB taxi ride.
These are the 3 bars/clubs I reccommend. I also like to hunt for the local free girl experience. I've picked up girls in all 3 places. I think some were semi-professional who just liked me and shared herself for free... others asked me for money upfront or the next morning.
Let me know if you find any other good bar/club scene to try. One thing is I did not look into the 'ex-pat/foriegner' areas too much. I heard there is another bar street for ex-pat.. some bar named "Blue Tone", etc... it's possible some free girls go there seeking for some western men, but I don't know because I never went to there (I am a white/western man).
But most often I hang out on LianHua Lu. The girls are pretty, young, and 200 RMB, and no hassle. In the nightclubs, you buy 2 drinks for a girl (25 RMB/each?), and waste a lot of time hunting for a really cute girl. LHL is faster and easier MOST of the time.
Dar[/QUOTE]
The Chinese name for the "Yesterday" night club mentioned above is 昔日情怀 xīrì qínghuái. There is also another night club at the beginning of LHL called 天地人间tiāndìrénjiān where a lot of the FL congregate.
Reached ZH about 5pm today. roam around LHL green umbrella area.
Very few girls, saw patroling car every half hour or so. WTF raid on a Monday?
Went for a meal, then managed to see some girls handling namecards.
Took a girl YanYan back for FS at hotel.
Bath , chatted for a while, bbbj then FS in a few position, finished mish.
Bath again chatted for a while and she left. 1.5hrs total time taken.
Overall Service is satisfactory at a good pace (those rush jobs just [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off)
bbbj --- 7
Fs --- 7
GFE --- 6
Cost --- 200
11pm went down to look for a LT deal. Again very few girls with patrol car around. Forget it post this report and maybe try my luck later.
Hey All,
For those who have just arrived, just left, or are about to come to Zhuhai, just know that
there is a MAJOR crack down at the moment. It started early last week and will probably
continue until the end of this week (Nov. 4). There is the national Avaiation Expo and Air Show going
on right now, which I guess is a major deal in Zhuhai and China. Lots of foreigners yesterday
night hanging out by the green umbrellas (they have all become mostly white umbrellas by the way)
but few girls approaching them or any other mongers. Cops are everywhere and a paddywagon
goes up and down Lian Hua Road about once every 15-20 minutes. There are still a few gals, but
the numbers are about 10-15% of normal. Best to walk up to a gal immediately and make
a deal or call a mamasan. I have a couple of gals and mamasans I've posted about in the past, and
I think most of them still work.
But for safety, convenience, and service, you can opt to go to any of Zhuhai's numerous saunas, which
are doing booming business at the moment, obviously. At about 12:00 am yesterday, 99% of every
damn room at Chang An Good World was full! And since this is the "premium priced" suana in the LHL area,
you can bet that 100% of the rooms in the budget saunas were full. But don't worry, you wouldn't
have to sit more than 10 minutes before a room opens up. Have fun and stay safe.
J
Johnnykon666,
Bad news, but thanks for the info. Sure hope that everything will be back to normal by the time I arrive (Nov 8 or 9).
If any other members will be in town around that time, please PM me.
Loso
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Hey All,
For those who have just arrived, just left, or are about to come to Zhuhai, just know that
there is a MAJOR crack down at the moment. It started early last week and will probably
continue until the end of this week (Nov. 4). There is the national Avaiation Expo and Air Show going
on right now, which I guess is a major deal in Zhuhai and China. Lots of foreigners yesterday
night hanging out by the green umbrellas (they have all become mostly white umbrellas by the way)
but few girls approaching them or any other mongers. Cops are everywhere and a paddywagon
goes up and down Lian Hua Road about once every 15-20 minutes. There are still a few gals, but
the numbers are about 10-15% of normal. Best to walk up to a gal immediately and make
a deal or call a mamasan. I have a couple of gals and mamasans I've posted about in the past, and
I think most of them still work.
But for safety, convenience, and service, you can opt to go to any of Zhuhai's numerous saunas, which
are doing booming business at the moment, obviously. At about 12:00 am yesterday, 99% of every
damn room at Chang An Good World was full! And since this is the "premium priced" suana in the LHL area,
you can bet that 100% of the rooms in the budget saunas were full. But don't worry, you wouldn't
have to sit more than 10 minutes before a room opens up. Have fun and stay safe.
J[/QUOTE]
Boy am I glad I am back in Shaghai! Thanks Johnny!
Oh BTW: I have your Sauna VIP card with me. Weelock passed it over to me to be returned to you. May be see you in 2 weeks time?
AG
It’s been a while since I had a chance to sit down write a long report, so here goes…
Over the past two weeks, I’ve probably met about dozen new mongers going
through Zhuhai, which is great, I totally love to meet new people and show them
the plentiful pussy options or just hang out. Finally met the infamous AG along a
bunch of new and old faces: OAH, Wadman, Reader123, Weeeelock, and a host
of other ISG members and non-members.
First off, the past week was definitely the worst time for a bunch of mongers to come
Zhuhai because of the National Air Show. Definitely not business as usual, and my two
regular favorite SWs weren’t even patrolling LHL because the police were being extra
zealous in rounding up gals with the paddy wagon. That, ofcourse, made for extra-super-
GFE sex when they called or I called for service. Even a major crackdown has a silver
lining, I guess. Don’t let this crackdown give you a bad first-impression of Zhuhai, though.
I think Changping saunas are the best in China, but I like to think that Zhuhai saunas
give 90% of service at 50% of the price. I guess I need to also the rules: "NEVER say it
is your first time at a particular establishment," "act like you normally get whatever
service you want", "let the girl know what service you want, exactly (for example, getting
a BBBJ during the beginning shower is NOT normally done, I’ve gotten it about 30% of the
time and it’s only as a warm-up, so if you want it, ask for it because essentially the
girl is supposed to do whatever you want)”. That being said, I’ve generally had great
experiences in Zhuhai saunas, about a 75% satisfaction rate, which I think is pretty high
compared to about a 30-40% satisfaction rate with general SWs.
I brought OAH and his band of merry minstrels around Zhuhai for a tour of various
saunas. One great thing about bringing a group of 6-7 guys to saunas is that you’ll get
lineups with minimum of 8-10 gals at once! OAH and Wadman decided to go with the
Jin Yu Hotel/Sauna (directly across from Changan Good World Hotel/Sauna) and they
both got mediocre service. It was disappointing to me because I’ve gotten great service
the couple of times I’ve been there. Their main attractions are newly renovated sauna
rooms, red rope service, and 5 minute walk from LHL. I thought the lineup of gals was
above average. OAH and Wadman have detailed their negative experiences in reports.
YET the very next day, I brought another couple of mongers to the same Jin Yu sauna,
and they had an EXCELLENT TIME! These two mongers got great enthusiastic service,
red ropes, and a second pop via BBBJ after finishing the first fuck vaginally. All this
shows is that what a crapshoot sauna service is and that and the sauna girl you choose
determines a lot of what kind of service you receive. I did tell the male captain that my
friends the day before had gotten shitty service and if my subsequent two friends I
brought also weren’t satisfied, I would never bring any customers again. He seemed to
take it to heart in a half-assed way, but he never spoke to the girls directly, so I don’t see
how my bitching led to directly to better sauna service. Following my sauna rules should
give a better guarantee of good sauna service, but then again, there are no guarantees in
this mongering stuff…
SAUNA UPDATES: I may or may not have mentioned it before, but the Communications
Hotel sauna (the one closest to the Gongbei Bus Station) is closed for renovations. I never
really liked their ratty-ass quality rooms or sub-par gals, but I guess you couldn’t beat
their standard prices of 218 RMB regular room all-inclusive and 238 RMB VIP room all-
inclusive. The “two dragon-horse” sauna (across the street and near the beginning of the
block from Golden Port Sauna at the Gongbei Border Crossing) is also closed for
renovations. This one I am sad about because it was one of my favorite sauna places.
No red ropes but their specialty was the vigorous scrub-down by the girl sports massage
style. You really got clean with that routine, and then she would give the soft, sensual
breast massage afterwards which is the best way to do it, I think. Price was all inclusive
for 298 RMB, so price wasn’t anything out of the ordinary.
Have fun and stay safe.
J
A quick separate report on the infamous Da Ming Yuan, which I now conclude must be the most popular (but not necessarily the best) sauna in Zhuhai.
Over the course of 3 weeks, I visited this place 3 times and received different levels of service, quality of gals, and pricing, and it just goes to show you how strange the whole sauna scene can be, though it is definitely enjoyable nonetheless.
First, I had #209 (I think) a few weeks ago. It was late-ish, about 11: 30pm on weekday but all the regular VIP rooms were already occupied, so I had to go up to the 6 floor and use a regular hotel room. Selection of girls were limited and I just chose #209 based on her long thin legs. After stripping off her clothes, I realized the dim lighting had totally fooled me into picking one of the skinniest girls I had ever seen in my life. I was ready to give her a bowl of gruel, swat the flies away from her face, and donate 32 cents a day to improve her life. I was about to reject her but then I thought, "Hell, how often will I have a chance to fuck a Chinese Ethiopian gal? " so I kept her. Typical sauna routine and I'll note her BBBJ was great but not extended. Her pussy was pretty tight but I had to do her doggie in order not to focus on her protruding rib cages and stick-arms. Seemed like what little body fat she actually had was centered in her vaginal lips and pert ass, which suited the doggie position best. Finished and wanted her to give one more BBBJ but after a few minutes but she was stalling and I could tell it wouldn't be easy so I just gave up. Paid 270 RMB and left.
Next, I had #212 who was an absolute cutie. About 5'5 with a fresh 18-year old body including small perky tits with pink-ish nipples. She was actually 22 years old but had a round-ish innocent face. The funny thing was that day, I was actually joking with the taxi driver bringing me to DMY what a great bargain it was but unfortunately there were a high percentage of ugly sauna gals. Glad that DMY proved me wrong that day. Little cute gave great service and her BBBJ was excellent, better than #209. So much so that after a few minutes of missionary, I asked her to BBBJ CIM. She looked at the condom and said, "I can't put this in my mouth" and pulled it off then proceeded to BBBJ till the instant I came, upon where she expertly switched to a decent HJ finish. She said she didn't want come in her mouth, and then again, who does? And I have to add that Chinese skills are absolutely ESSENTIAL in helping the girls to warm up and give better service. I think it's because they feel more confident and assured that you are happy, you will be a repeat customer, you won't complain, and unexpected things (CIM, anal, bareback fucks) won't happen because there's a degree of understanding in speaking a common language. After resting a bit and watching TV, I said I was horny again and fucked her missionary, doggie, and finished with her riding cowgirl. This was at about 5: 45pm in the afternoon, so I got the special rate of 238 RMB for the VIP room, all-inclusive and the VIP card cannot be used during the promotional times (promo time is from 5: 00-7: 00pm, with prices 218/238 RMB for regular/VIP room service, all-inclusive).
Finally, I had #156 who is a real small, petit gal. About 5'3 and bubbly and happy from Sichuan. She gave great service and was very open to instructions to do requests and after a vigorous fuck, ended doggie. Paid the 260 RMB rate with VIP card (280 RMB without) and was very happy, mostly because I talked to her in more details about her sauna job and found out TONS of useful info that many girls wouldn't probably be so open about:
DMY gals are doing this mainly for quick money
She was "suggested" to do sauna work by her mamasan because this little gal had run up debts of 30, 000 RMB (they seemed totally unjustified, but the little gal seemed resigned to accept them)
This little gal knows that she needs to have a happy demeanor and act like a cutie to be popular to get more business to earn more money, and she is one of the top earners at DMY
She has a quota of 800 RMB she must reach to pay the mamasan. EVERYDAY
She actually reaches this quota, everyday! Each customer represents 150 RMB in earnings (more if they tip) so that means she needs to fuck from 5-6 guys a day to meet the quota. When asked what happens if she doesn't meet the daily quota, she simply and confidently said she works overtime as necessary, and she has never had to wait more than 15-20 minutes before a customer picked her.
She gets two days off per month, so in 6 months, she's been fucked anywhere from 828-996 guys! That's a damn lot 'o cocks.
During her best months, she can make 30, 000 RMB (including tips), for example, one Singaporean guy sees her twice a month and pays her a 500 RMB tip, and this kind of thing is uncommon. For guys who tip like this on a regular basis, y'all are retarded because she doesn't feel any more/less attracted to these guys, just sees more RMB signs in her eyes when they walk in the door.
She generally doesn't feel pleasure from the sex but every once in a while, she'll enjoy herself but it doesn't matter either way. She's thinking about making her quota during the whole time
She plans to go back to her village in Sichuan after making from 100, 000 to 150, 000 RMB in savings. She plans to buy a house and open a small restaurant or convenience store. When asked about her future husband's reaction to her unusually experienced sex skills or loose pussy, she laughed and said that men in the countryside only have sex to make babies so it didn't worry her. I laughed too, but I'm not sure whether for her naïve attitude or it's possible truth.
DMY sauna gals from Dongbei usually give worse service compared to gals from other regions.
You can ask the sauna gals to fuck you as many times as you want in 90 minutes. The best way is to say straight off the bat, "I want to fuck you twice. Do you have a problem? " If the girl does, you can switch, and if she lies and then doesn't perform after the first shot, complain (see below). It makes a huge difference in the girl's attitude and earnings.
At DMY, the gals are fined from 200-500 RMB for all sorts of BS rules infractions, most of which work to your advantage:
*Can't go to the "regular massage areas" in their sexy uniforms, 200-500 RMB fine
*Can't leave the sauna room early without the customer, 200-300 RMB fine *If customer complains during or after the session, 200-300 RMB fine
*Various uniform violations, 200-500 RMB fine
*Every minute late to work, 100-200 RMB fine
Working hard so you don't.
J
Johnnykon666, Night Dragon, Dar425, Legal Lad:
Many thanks for your comments/input, I'll certainly keep them in mind. Meanwhile, the latest with regards to my travel plans is - I'm trying to decide between ZH and Jakarta for a quick weekend escapade, will be my first time to either !! Further comments welcome.
Ahh..
So it's the airshow that are making the hotel prices shoot through the roof. I had planned to playing a bit in Dongguan then going directly to zhuhai, but due to the increase in pricing, I will have to make a stop in Zhongshan for my mongering.
As an illustration, I normally stay at the Harbor View Hotel at around 600 RMB a night, i checked on ctrip last night and it was 2400RMB for a delux room, with "tight" availablity. Damn!
Oh well, will be in ZHuhai around the 7th or so. Send me a PM if you want to catch up.
'lad
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]It’s been a while since I had a chance to sit down write a long report, so here goes…
Over the past two weeks, I’ve probably met about dozen new mongers going
through Zhuhai, which is great, I totally love to meet new people and show them
the plentiful pussy options or just hang out. Finally met the infamous AG along a
bunch of new and old faces: OAH, Wadman, Reader123, Weeeelock, and a host
of other ISG members and non-members.
J[/QUOTE]
J666
Regular on LOS thread.
Great FR re sauna scene - hope to find excuse to visit one day. Heading to BJ and Shanghai in mid Nov but outside chance I might be able to make pit stop in Zhuhai.....
T1234
[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]Boy am I glad I am back in Shaghai! Thanks Johnny!
Oh BTW: I have your Sauna VIP card with me. Weelock passed it over to me to be returned to you. May be see you in 2 weeks time?
AG[/QUOTE]No problem, see you in two weeks. Also, my offer to you stands, basically, I will pay for a deluxe hotel room and all your meals if you can seduce one of the "green umbrella" gals in one night with no direct money involved. See'mon, AG, get those magical freebie powers working overtime! I really want to see the possiblities!
Also, in two weeks, there should be plenty of LHL gals for you to do double-fly or triple fly with no problems.
J
Went to bar street yesterday night and looks like Red Bar is open again. In my opinion, the best dance club in ZH with a good mix of music, mood, and non-pro women. Gets crowded quickly on weekends with their smallish size, though.
Also, the lame-ass bar to the left of Cohiba Bar/Western Restaurant has closed and another (probably lame-ass) bar is quickly being constructed in its place.
Anyway, I stand by my opinion that Shuiwan Bar Street a nice "hip" place to bring your dates and friends for a meal and/or beer in an open, garden-type atmosphere, but unless you love playing that stupid "dice guessing" game with dates and friends WITHOUT loud music and people dancing around you, then coming here for freelancers is limited (especially since LHL is 5-10 minutes away) and trying to score freebies is possible, but smaller "pool of targets" than I expect for such an area. Lots of cute waitresses and bar staff, but working on these type of targets is a real grind, I think.
J
As some guys are already reporting, there are little girls around LHL and some hotels around Gongbei area seems offering more pricy rate(10-50%) than usual.
There is no girls on LHL. Then I have been to Chang An Good World sauna.
My girls was No.115, 19yo from Yunnan.
Her technique was poor but super GF type and she has small but sweet fruity tits.
Just when you thought you could get away, I'm back.
Anyway, I wanted to write a quick report on an interesting Viagra-like Chinese product that a non-ISG member recently introduced me to. I don't really know the Chinese name but I've included pics of the front, back, and the pills themselves so you can get a better idea about them.
You're supposed to take the pills about 1 hour before you fuck, similar to Viagra. I'm not sure exactly what the ingredients are (real smart, with me ingesting them, I know) but I'm sure it's some ancient mixture of turtle penises, unicorn horns, dried leaves, powdered Communist documents, and butterfly eggs. But this shit works! I was skeptical at first, but willing to try it out and was pleasantly surprised.
Overall, the effect is somewhere between Viagra and Cialis. I don't need these type of ED drugs but I like to use them from time to time as "recreational performance enhancers" as I've heard it eloqently put before. I think Viagra gives you a very hard, de-sensitized penis, like an artifical steel rod has been attached to your groin. If you want to fuck the shit out of a girl for a few hours, regardless of your own pleasure, then V is for you, in my opinion. Also, I get a slight headache and a dizzy feeling after using V which goes away by the next day. And I hate walking around with a "Viagra boner" which I can do anything about, especially if I need to do something in public, it's annoying and doesn't feel too good to have a hard erection straining against my pants. With Cialis, my experience is a 95% hard erection (compared to V's 110%) that feels more natural and I can control my ejaculations relatively well. No headaches or dizzy feelings and the effect is best on the first day and lasts for about 3 days for me, with each subsequent day losing about 10-15% effectiveness.
With this Chi-agra, the effect kicks in after about 30 minutes and the feeling was about a 99-100% hard erection that I could control pretty well, slightly less than with Cialis. Great feeling and sensation my penis, a bit more than with Cialis and much more so than with Viagra. No headaches or dizziness and there seems to be a little bit of spill-over effect on the next day, but I would probably need to take another dose for real effect.
You're supposed to take 3 pills for one dose, but I took two and the effects were pretty good. I can imagine taking three and really being able to fuck the shit out of a gal. Price is super cheap, with a huge box of ten vials (translates to about 100-120 doses) for 80-90 RMB.
When taking these pills instead of real/generic see and V, I really feel as though I am buying high quality pirated DVDs. Ha ha. But, well, that's China.
J
PS. Gotta love the words "Vigorous" printed on every pill.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]
With this Chi-agra, the effect kicks in after about 30 minutes and the feeling was about a 99-100% hard erection
that I could control pretty well, slightly less than with Cialis. Great feeling and sensation my penis, a bit more than
with Cialis and much more so than with Viagra. No headaches or dizziness and there seems to be a
little bit of spill-over effect on the next day, but I would probably need to take another dose for real effect.
You're supposed to take 3 pills for one dose, but I took two and the effects were pretty good. I can imagine
taking three and really being able to fuck the shit out of a gal. Price is super cheap, with a huge box of ten vials
(translates to about 100-120 doses) for 80-90 RMB.
When taking these pills instead of real/generic C and V, I really feel as though I am buying high quality
pirated DVDs...ha ha...but, well, that's China....
J
PS. Gotta love the words "Vigorous" printed on every pill...[/QUOTE]
I tried this last year and you are correct, the stuff is a cross between a V and a C with way less side effects. My friend told me that it is a mixture of natural herbs and non synthetic. good stuff. i took several times and i guess that there is no harmful effect. I am still alive and kicking.
Johnny,
I had a subsequent discussion with Wadman regarding our "less than great" experiences at the sauna. Living here, we do a lot of girls in China for comparison and our expectation bar may be higher than others. You and I have also discussed this very subject and compared the percentages of service levels among BBS girls and agreeing that more than half are below average. Having said that, sauna girls should be better service than BBS/SW. I would be keen to have your similar overall service assessment on Zhuhai sauna service. Another factor may be the frequency of encounter. For example, if you just pulled into town after a 6+ month dry spell in the USA, anything you might do could be "fantastic". This sometimes happens to me even after one week without any action.
On the other hand, it was obvious that my Shandong girl at the Jin Yu was trying to do as little as necessary. The reason I selected her was that she had a full set of big lips that I thought would be good for all the oral exercises. In the end, I only got a lame fire/ice BBBJ/AR, but with none of the other fluids that are standard in most DG saunas. I agree that the price is attractive in comparison with DG, but I found the service level far inferior.
Having said all that, I am still keen to come back down and give it another try.
Thanks again for showing as around. It was great to hook-up with you in Zhuhai finally.
OAH
Hi Gang. After a six month dry spell in the US I finally arrived back in China. First stop is Zhuhai. I immediately went to LianHua Lu and you can imagine my shock and disappointment when I didn't see any girls parading up and down. What happened? :( Later I learned about the airshow and guessed what had happened.
While sitting in a restaurant, a girl came to my table and offered her services. She looked ok so I went for it, 200 ST. She was ok in bed but had saggy tits and tummy. Friendly enough, so not so bad.
The next day I got a call from JohnnyKon, who I have never met before. I expected he might be a big, macho, no nonsense yank. We met that evening and he was a friendly, polite and intelligent guy. He introduced me to a couple of girls he knew and they both came to my room for 2 hours, 400rmb. It would have been really great, except when I tried to do the second one it turned out to be the beginning of her period. Damn! It was ok though, they were so entertaining it really didn't totally ruin it for my.
The following evening I tried the Jin Yu Hotel Sauna. It is located down an alley immediately behind the Guangdong Regency Hotel. I had a girl named Chen #30. She asked me to recommend her to you guys, and I do. I was very happy with the service and the price was only 289rmb. I thought it was great, but then again, I have been stuck in the US for the past six months and I don't have the experience that OAH has.
Regarding prices of hotels, there are lots of cheap hotels in Zhuhai down many of the side streets. The Jin Yu is pretty good and singles starts at only 168rmb. During the airshow they start at 210rmb. For those of you who are new to China, you need to know that the prices are usually 35% less than the advertised price.
Here's a few non-mongering tips. There's a big and clean dental clinic on the corner opposite the Guangdong Hotel. You can have your teeth checked and cleaned for only 55rmb. I was lucky, she said I have "no calories" :) There is a good sex toy shop on the other corner.
There is a good seafood restaurant opposite the Xiang Jiang Hotel, this hotel also has a sex sauna. A western steak restaurant near the Xiang Jiang called the Indian Restaurant (american style). Also, a western buffet on the 29th floor of the Guangdong Regency.
during dinner with santa yesterday, a petite cutie that i met from the bike-taxi mamasan called me up. i was kind of excited because i thought she was available to fuck (she had recently gotten a hotel job for some reason, thought it could all be bs). she wasn't free. but, she had a cute friend she wanted to "introduce" to me. well, that's an interesting bonus, so i met up with her friend who was a cute, 19-year old from anhui. she was with her older "sister" who may or may not have actually been her sister, but they were both from the same village in anhui, just like my petite cutie.
they were surprised santa was with me and i asked them to bring some more gals for him to choose from. she got one on the phone and who was "tall and beautiful" but she would be a bit more expensive because she just arrived to zhuhai and hadn't had any customers yet and, in general, wasn't sexually experienced. 300 rmb st instead of the usual 200 st. at this point, i noticed that this "older sister" was pretty hot, too. i guess i'm partial to slightly older gals at 25-30 years old and i was itching to do this older one. but, i got the distinct feeling (which turned out to be 100% correct) that the younger cutie would have nothing to do with foreigners.
santa agreed that older sis was attractive and took her back to his hotel and i took young sis back to my apt. her body was perfect, like an adolescent wet dream, with long, lean legs. soft-yet-firm 34c breasts. slight muscle definition all over her body from being naturally slim, and all wrapped up in flawless, soft skin. she gave a good bbbj and would even stop and giggle before continuing. this kind of gives you an idea of her "style" which could be defined as "happy teen who is ticklish as shit". i like touching and caressing a gal but that would cause her to go into convultions on my bed, thrashing and kicking and twisting and turning, so i kind of stopped and just got on with the fucking. her pussy was wet and tight and felt great and she was even open to me using lube to rub her clit and asshole during the fucking. really flawless looking pussy, ass, and asshole area, too, which is always a nice bonus when you're fucking a gal doggie.
overall, a nice, pleasant fuck, and i would recommend to those who are not in caressing the gals so much but mostly want to just pound a tight, wet pussy on a gorgeous young teen body. she plainly stated she is not going to go with non-chinese foreigners (she didn't know i was non-hk / non-taiwanese until i specifically told her), particularly white guys and black guys, sorry.
santa apparently didn't have that good a time with older sis, but i will write that off to "bad-service-for-foreigners" syndrome. it happens sometimes and that's why i like recommending gals that i know or can push to give great or equal service to.
i will fuck older sis and the inexperienced sis asap and report back. enjoy the pics of the gal, whose name i don't remember, ofcourse.
j
ps. with the aid of two chi-agra pills, i was able to pound this girl slowly and quickly with pretty good control of when i would come. good time for me and for her. and i used three chi-agras yesterday with another gal and it was too strong, and i could barely come and needed to bang the shit out of her at high speed just to do so. she was a regular gal i have and was totally fucked out afterwards (not necessarily a good thing) and was wondering what the hell was going on with me, ha ha. again, one of the best things about these pills are they seem to be out of your body within a few hours of use, so you don't go walking around with insta-boners all day long, which happens with me a lot if i use viagra/cialis.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Just when you thought you could get away, I'm back...
Anyway, I wanted to write a quick report on an interesting Viagra-like Chinese product that a non-ISG member
recently introduced me to. I don't really know the Chinese name but I've included pics of the front, back, and the
pills themselves so you can get a better idea about them.
You're supposed to take the pills about 1 hour before you fuck, similar to Viagra. I'm not sure exactly what the
ingredients are (real smart, with me ingesting them, I know) but I'm sure it's some ancient mixture of turtle penises,
unicorn horns, dried leaves, powdered Communist documents, and butterfly eggs....but this shit works!
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PS. Gotta love the words "Vigorous" printed on every pill...[/QUOTE]
Dear Johnny
Thanks for your information on 'China-Viagra'. I will visit Zuhai very soon and would like to try some. Please letme know where can I find this 'Viagra'.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]She plainly stated she is NOT going to go with non-Chinese foreigners, particularly white guys and black guys, sorry.
[/QUOTE]
What percentage of the girls in Zhu Hai think that way? And does that include 99.9% of the beautiful ones?
The PYTs get plenty of customers, and can afford to discriminate. The ugly ones can't afford to be picky and will go with anyone who's desperate enough to make them an offer. Right?
Loso
[QUOTE=Chineselove]Dear Johnny
Thanks for your information on 'China-Viagra'. I will visit Zuhai very soon and would like to try some. Please letme know where can I find this 'Viagra'.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
In ZH, any of those Chinese "sex toys" shops have had it as well as any general drug
store (kind of out of the way in the back). Haven't had the chance to look for it in other
cities yet.
J
[QUOTE=Loso69]What percentage of the girls in Zhu Hai think that way? And does that include 99.9% of the beautiful ones?
The PYTs get plenty of customers, and can afford to discriminate. The ugly ones can't afford to be picky and will go with anyone who's desperate enough to make them an offer. Right?
Loso[/QUOTE]
The funny thing is that I would estimate from about 60-70% of the most beautiful gals in
ZH will have NO problem doing all kinds of foreigners, mostly because A) it's more volume of
business in general and B) foreigners tend to pay more and/or tip.
But that being said, the remaining 30-40% is still a high ratio of "no service" or, even more
of a bummer, "shitty service." I would say getting girls from a personal recommendation
like me or someone else with a bit of communicative history can help lower the odds of
no/low service to about 10-20%.
And you would be surprised how picky ugly gals can be, ha ha...
J
Not man y girls around yesterday, because of the crackdown, but JohnnyKon called some on his mobile and they met us outside the Chang An Hotel.
The one I had was very pretty and had a nice body. However, when we got to the bed she refused a blow job, said that would be an extra 100rmb. I refused and so did she. I wanted to fuck her and decided it was my own fault for not asking earlier, so I decided to only shag. She was a good shag with lots of movements, contractions and groans. All a big act of course. Cost 200rmb
Went back to Lian Hua Lu and sat at an umbrella bar near the ChangAn Hotel and the late night food stalls. Several beers later, around 3:00 am, a whole bunch of girls showed up and started hanging on the corner. Slowly they all disappeared with one guy at a time. Finally, at 4:00 am, I took a pretty one wearing glasses. To my surprise she knew some english. I made sure this time that a blowjob was included.
So we get to my room, she is very friendly, and she starts giving me a very good blow job for about only 30 seconds. Then she starts reaching for the condom. I say, "please continue the blowjob", she answers, "no, you give me 100rmb tip and I give you very good service ok".
What should I have done?
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Hi Johnny,
Actually It is legal to do 17 year olds and younger in many other countries like Cambodia,Holland etc.But It is against Jackson rules which he has to follow,might I suggest editing your post accordingly Cheers CL[/QUOTE][url]http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm[/url]
But even it is 14 for chinese, if you are from United States, United States law can still reach out and touch you. As in: YOU will go to jail the minute you walk back into the states if they know or find out.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Anyway, I wanted to write a quick report on an interesting Viagra-like Chinese product that a non-ISG member recently introduced me to. I don't really know the Chinese name but I've included pics of the front, back, and the
pills themselves so you can get a better idea about them.
...[/QUOTE]Hello Johnnykon666 ! One of my subcontractor recently went to China and brought back the same Chi-agra capsules to Malaysia . He gave me a box of nine capsules to try last week. I would give two thumbs up on the effectiveness of this product. Just as you have already described, it works best for a short term FJ without the after effect of having a boner thereafter inside my pant for the rest of the day. Similar as yourself , I find that taking two capsules is sufficient to give my didi the extra hardness it requires during FJ with any PRC mei-mei. Oh! Yes! We do have a lot of PRC mei-mei venturing to Malaysia as well. Good to read all your sexciting adventures in Zhuhai. Makes me wanna return to Zhuhai soon when the next opportunity arises.
There is a product information in the box and the following are extracts from it.
The product is known as the Santi Bovine Penis Erecting Capsule.
It is an excellent product of new generation of strengthening and invigorating the kidney; it is refined with penis of cattle in Menchang, Anhui province mingled with rare Chinese medicines such as pilose antler and ginseng etc.
Material : Penis of cattle, pilose antler, ginseng, schisandra, fruit of Chinese wolfberry, semen cuscutae, barrenwort, cistanche salsa, arillus longan etc…
Quote “ After taking the medicine, men feel swell like flooding, going with the stream smoothly, having the sense of moisture, happiness and pleasure.”
Santa:
Being in this situation is always a tough call. You can ask her to leave, but run the risk that she will refuse to go and demand the money anyway even though you did not finish the deed. I will usually feel them out first by suggesting that you want to find another girl that gives longer BBBJ to see it that motivates them to improve their service. This works with BBS girls since they know you can complain to the mamasan. SWs are another story because there is nowhere to complain.
I never bend to extortion so if the dialogue fails, I just cover up and proceed to the FS. If they play these scams from the start, who knows what you will end up with even for more money. I just chalk it up to bad luck and go find another one.
I am a firm believer in avoiding confrontation in China. It is just too easy for someone to get 5-6 thugs to kick the shit out of you over a few RMB. Case in point last week when we witnessed a confrontation between 2 BBS girls in Zhuhai. Within 10 minutes, 5 guys showed up willing to kick the shit out of one of the girls only to be stopped by the other girl first.
Just my POV.
OAH
[QUOTE=Santa]Not man y girls around yesterday, because of the crackdown, but JohnnyKon called some on his mobile and they met us outside the Chang An Hotel.
The one I had was very pretty and had a nice body. However, when we got to the bed she refused a blow job, said that would be an extra 100rmb. I refused and so did she. I wanted to fuck her and decided it was my own fault for not asking earlier, so I decided to only shag. She was a good shag with lots of movements, contractions and groans. All a big act of course. Cost 200rmb
Went back to Lian Hua Lu and sat at an umbrella bar near the ChangAn Hotel and the late night food stalls. Several beers later, around 3:00 am, a whole bunch of girls showed up and started hanging on the corner. Slowly they all disappeared with one guy at a time. Finally, at 4:00 am, I took a pretty one wearing glasses. To my surprise she knew some english. I made sure this time that a blowjob was included.
So we get to my room, she is very friendly, and she starts giving me a very good blow job for about only 30 seconds. Then she starts reaching for the condom. I say, "please continue the blowjob", she answers, "no, you give me 100rmb tip and I give you very good service ok".
What should I have done?[/QUOTE]
It's bad enough when they purposely try to rip you off (i.e. hide under the bed to go through your pants, run off with wallet while sleeping etc, etc), there is no reason to complicate things. Best to chalk it up to a bad experience, get the deed over with (or not) and part with the 200 rmb. I've spend much more for much less before, it's just not worth it. However, should not be a chump for the girls to take advantage of either.
I always just try to keep smiling, trying to joke with the girl, and have another go at getting what I want. I've begged (knees on ground, hands together begging...as a joke of course). Claimed it's my first time ever getting it (yeah, they always laugh at that one), or that she's the first one I've asked to do it, the list goes on...
But if a girl is just a shitty provider, then she's just a shitty provider. I know I'm just a newb and Santa's an experienced senior member, so I'm sure he knows all this, but if coaxing, begging, pleading, humoring doesn't work, and all she's trying to do is squeeze more RMB out of you, then I think there is nothing that you could've done, but just take it in stride and chaulk one up to bad experience.
I know OAH and Wadman recently had a bad experience in a Zhu Hai sauna, but they probably didn't waste their time and effort trying to get what they want at that sauna right there and then. Instead, I'm sure they headed out to the next stop where they CAN get what they want.
Just my two RMB.
-KS
P.S. I loved Zhu Hai - the SW, the sauna, the KTV (okay, maybe not the KTV so much, but heck, I've only tried one. there are many others) - I'm sure your next one will be good!
Johnny & Golddragon,
Thanks both of you for the information on 'Chi-viagra'.
Will try to search some and try soon. Now I am wondering can I easily get it in LHL area, cos my time is tight with schedule. Johnny, is there any 'sex shop' that sell Chi-viagra along LHL or Qiaoguang Lu ?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Chineselove]Johnny & Golddragon,
Thanks both of you for the information on 'Chi-viagra'.
Will try to search some and try soon. Now I am wondering can I easily get it in LHL area, cos my time is tight with schedule. Johnny, is there any 'sex shop' that sell Chi-viagra along LHL or Qiaoguang Lu ?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
If you are standing outside of the Yue Hai Hotel and start walking towards the green umbrella cafes
on LHL, every medicine/sex shop on the road has it. It's a little more expensive than if you went
away from LHL to buy, so expect to pay from 100-120 RMB for a box of about 12 (?) small bottles which
have about a dozen pills in each bottle.
Give me an email and I can show you if you have trouble. [email]jkon666@yahoo.com[/email]
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Just when you thought you could get away, I'm back...
Anyway, I wanted to write a quick report on an interesting Viagra-like Chinese product that a non-ISG member
recently introduced me to. I don't really know the Chinese name but I've included pics of the front, back, and the
pills themselves so you can get a better idea about them.
You're supposed to take the pills about 1 hour before you fuck, similar to Viagra. I'm not sure exactly what the
ingredients are (real smart, with me ingesting them, I know) but I'm sure it's some ancient mixture of turtle penises,
unicorn horns, dried leaves, powdered Communist documents, and butterfly eggs....but this shit works!
I was skeptical at first, but willing to try it out and was pleasantly surprised.
Overall, the effect is somewhere between Viagra and Cialis. I don't need these type of ED drugs but I like to use
them from time to time as "recreational performance enhancers" as I've heard it eloqently put before. I think Viagra
gives you a very hard, de-sensitized penis, like an artifical steel rod has been attached to your groin. If you want to fuck
the shit out of a girl for a few hours, regardless of your own pleasure, then V is for you, in my opinion. Also, I get a slight
headache and a dizzy feeling after using V which goes away by the next day. And I hate walking around with a
"Viagra boner" which I can do anything about, especially if I need to do something in public, it's annoying and
doesn't feel too good to have a hard erection straining against my pants. With Cialis, my experience is a
95% hard erection (compared to V's 110%) that feels more natural and I can control my ejaculations relatively
well. No headaches or dizzy feelings and the effect is best on the first day and lasts for about 3 days for me,
with each subsequent day losing about 10-15% effectiveness.
With this Chi-agra, the effect kicks in after about 30 minutes and the feeling was about a 99-100% hard erection
that I could control pretty well, slightly less than with Cialis. Great feeling and sensation my penis, a bit more than
with Cialis and much more so than with Viagra. No headaches or dizziness and there seems to be a
little bit of spill-over effect on the next day, but I would probably need to take another dose for real effect.
You're supposed to take 3 pills for one dose, but I took two and the effects were pretty good. I can imagine
taking three and really being able to fuck the shit out of a gal. Price is super cheap, with a huge box of ten vials
(translates to about 100-120 doses) for 80-90 RMB.
When taking these pills instead of real/generic C and V, I really feel as though I am buying high quality
pirated DVDs...ha ha...but, well, that's China....
J
PS. Gotta love the words "Vigorous" printed on every pill...[/QUOTE]
Has anyone found out what is in this product. Would one of you daredevils open a capsule and see if the contents are dried herbs or some powder?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Hari Hara]Has anyone found out what is in this product. Would one of you daredevils open a capsule and see if the contents are dried herbs or some powder?[/QUOTE]DayNight and others have posted much detail about the product. Look in the "Living in China" thread as well. Here is one link, but there are other comments
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=526121&postcount=659[/url]
[QUOTE=Hari Hara]Has anyone found out what is in this product. Would one of you daredevils open a capsule and see if the contents are dried herbs or some powder?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
It's nothing special, a bunch of Chinese herbs and powdered ox penis (though I doubt that,
since it would be a relatively expensive ingredient and this product is dirt-cheap). Definately
powder inside. Daynight made some detailed findings regarding it:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=526121&postcount=659[/url]
And, nobody says you have to try it, but it works, it's supposedly natural, and I don't have any
lingering side effects like I do with Viagra or Cialis. I actually had several "comparison fucks"
using Cialis and Viagra this week to compare with last week when I first starting using Chi-agra.
I am definately a believer in Chi-agra now and won't need to spend time/money/effort to get real
and/or generic C/V in HK or the US anymore. Ofcourse, your experience may vary, so if you're in
doubt, skip this stuff. Me, I guess I'm the kind to just dive in...
J
I have looked in every drug store and fuch shop and can't find the wonder drug.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Just when you thought you could get away, I'm back.
Anyway, I wanted to write a quick report on an interesting Viagra-like Chinese product that a non-ISG member recently introduced me to. I don't really know the Chinese name but I've included pics of the front, back, and the pills themselves so you can get a better idea about them.
You're supposed to take the pills about 1 hour before you fuck, similar to Viagra. I'm not sure exactly what the ingredients are (real smart, with me ingesting them, I know) but I'm sure it's some ancient mixture of turtle penises, unicorn horns, dried leaves, powdered Communist documents, and butterfly eggs. But this shit works! I was skeptical at first, but willing to try it out and was pleasantly surprised.
Overall, the effect is somewhere between Viagra and Cialis. I don't need these type of ED drugs but I like to use them from time to time as "recreational performance enhancers" as I've heard it eloqently put before. I think Viagra gives you a very hard, de-sensitized penis, like an artifical steel rod has been attached to your groin. If you want to fuck the shit out of a girl for a few hours, regardless of your own pleasure, then V is for you, in my opinion. Also, I get a slight headache and a dizzy feeling after using V which goes away by the next day. And I hate walking around with a "Viagra boner" which I can do anything about, especially if I need to do something in public, it's annoying and doesn't feel too good to have a hard erection straining against my pants. With Cialis, my experience is a 95% hard erection (compared to V's 110%) that feels more natural and I can control my ejaculations relatively well. No headaches or dizzy feelings and the effect is best on the first day and lasts for about 3 days for me, with each subsequent day losing about 10-15% effectiveness.
With this Chi-agra, the effect kicks in after about 30 minutes and the feeling was about a 99-100% hard erection that I could control pretty well, slightly less than with Cialis. Great feeling and sensation my penis, a bit more than with Cialis and much more so than with Viagra. No headaches or dizziness and there seems to be a little bit of spill-over effect on the next day, but I would probably need to take another dose for real effect.
You're supposed to take 3 pills for one dose, but I took two and the effects were pretty good. I can imagine taking three and really being able to fuck the shit out of a gal. Price is super cheap, with a huge box of ten vials (translates to about 100-120 doses) for 80-90 RMB.
When taking these pills instead of real/generic see and V, I really feel as though I am buying high quality pirated DVDs. Ha ha. But, well, that's China.
J
PS. Gotta love the words "Vigorous" printed on every pill. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spikingmany]I have looked in every drug store and fuch shop and can't find the wonder drug.[/QUOTE]
Got it myself a week ago in Zhuhai - at a Pharmacy on LHL. As I stayed in Chang An Hotel just went out to LHL and to the right (opposite side of the umbrella bars) Then it was the first pharmacy on the right hand side. Just showed them the picture of the littel vial that JK has put up here. No problems at all.
And the best thing - it works on me.
Best value for money for sure.
Been hanging out with an ISG member the past few days (sorry I forget his name on ISG)
but he's been great company and has more high-quality photos of his gals than you can imagine.
Happily for me, he ended up doing "porn star" I mentioned a few posts back. I really love this
girl's body and her face is nice, too. How he was able to make her look warm and happy instead
of the normal scowl and bitchiness, I don't know, ha ha...I didn't want to post his awesome pics
haphazardly, so I've added a watermark for the first time. Anyway, you can still get an idea of
what she looks like though no nude pics, which would have been great.
Enjoy.
J
And there is also blue color label of this bottle.
It is a bit pricy than red one.
I am going to try Blue Label next week.
[QUOTE=Mc Fly XXX]Got it myself a week ago in Zhuhai - at a Pharmacy on LHL. As I stayed in Chang An Hotel just went out to LHL and to the right (opposite side of the umbrella bars) Then it was the first pharmacy on the right hand side. Just showed them the picture of the littel vial that JK has put up here. No problems at all.
And the best thing - it works on me.
Best value for money for sure.[/QUOTE]
Dear All,
First time to ZhuHai, but very experience in ShenZheng & HK.
Like to know which ktv provides the best value in terms of chicks, price and fun. Will be going in early Dec with a bunch of friends.
Heard that price range is 1000rmb for 6 gals just having fun without sex. Is it true? Hope to hear from fellow experienced guys.
Regards,
Mixus
The last couple of days, Johnnykon666 showed me around his home town of Zhuhai. He was an extremely generous host & great company. Thanks a million for taking the time to show a newbie to China the (red) ropes.
Thanks for introducing me to some culinary delights. Thanks for saving me from being scammed at the Da Ming Yuan sauna. Never mind that last night's experience at the Jin Yu sauna turned out to be a horrible ordeal.
Hope our paths will cross again. You're a true gentleman.
Loso
PS
I'm the guy who took the "porn star" pictures Johhny posted.
[QUOTE=Loso69]
Thanks for saving me from being scammed at the Da Ming Yuan sauna. Never mind that last night's experience at the Jin Yu sauna turned out to be a horrible ordeal.
[/QUOTE]
Any chance you can expand on some these things you mention?
Im sure many of us would like to learn from your experiences, regardless of whether they are positive or negative.
The negatives can be very useful information for future reference!
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Santa:
Being in this situation is always a tough call. You can ask her to leave, but run the risk that she will refuse to go and demand the money anyway even though you did not finish the deed. I will usually feel them out first by suggesting that you want to find another girl that gives longer BBBJ to see it that motivates them to improve their service. This works with BBS girls since they know you can complain to the mamasan. SWs are another story because there is nowhere to complain.
I never bend to extortion so if the dialogue fails, I just cover up and proceed to the FS. If they play these scams from the start, who knows what you will end up with even for more money. I just chalk it up to bad luck and go find another one.
I am a firm believer in avoiding confrontation in China. It is just too easy for someone to get 5-6 thugs to kick the shit out of you over a few RMB. Case in point last week when we witnessed a confrontation between 2 BBS girls in Zhuhai. Within 10 minutes, 5 guys showed up willing to kick the shit out of one of the girls only to be stopped by the other girl first.
Just my POV.
OAH[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your replies. So what did I do? I said "no, I only pay 200rmb". Then she said she would leave and wanted the money. I said "no". After a few minutes of pouting she finally continued the blowjob and then the fuck. However, the service was no longer girlfriendly. It's a pity, she was very pretty and had good skills.
I agree with OAH. Do not bend to extortion, but avoid angry confrontation. Be firm, polite and calm.
Could anyone suggest best value hotel(s) in ZhuHai with wireless internet in the room? Will be staying for a couple of nights. Preferably at a hotel near where the actions are (aka Lian Hua Lu)
Johnnykon666 took me to the Xiang Jing Hotel sauna, as he knew I wanted to take pictures of the red ropes treatment. But the captain only showed me 2 line-ups, with no decent-looking girls. When we asked to see more girls, none were supposedly available. Johnnykon666 thought that was BS and we were off to the next place.
The Da Ming Yuan sauna doesn’t have red ropes and the captain only showed us 2 line-ups as well, but at least there were a few pretty ones. I picked Her Bing (#015) and Johnnykon666 talked to her to make sure I would be allowed to take pictures.
This was my 1st sauna experience in China and I thought I received pretty good service, so I gave the girl 200 RMB (150 RMB + 50RMB tip). Afterwards, I discovered that I didn’t get complete service – she left out the ass rimming, probably her least favorite part of the routine.
When we went to reception, I expected only to have to pay for the room, as I’d already paid the girl. But she considered the whole 200 RMB as a tip and didn’t fill in the form, so I was asked for the full amount. Johnnykon666 talked to them & the girl came down with the 200 RMB. As she tried to scam me, she lost her 50 RMB tip and won’t receive the 150 RMB she earned until the end of the month.
And the 50 RMB she lost by being greedy paid for Johnnykon666’s foot and head massage!
PS
I collect pictures of girls I’ve fucked. And although I only realized it after the facts, Her Bing was the 1000th girl to be added to the collection. A landmark!
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]I collect pictures of girls I’ve fucked. And although I only realized it after the facts, Her Bing was the 1000th girl to be added to the collection. A landmark![/QUOTE]Hey Loso glad to see you hooked up with Johnny in Zhuhai. Holy moly that is a smoking hot picture of HerBing. I have never seen a hottie like that at Dau Ming. Shoot now the cheapest place in town now has hotties of this claiber -- Damn. I may have to splash in your cum puddles next month give #15 a spin, and I will make sure she licks my ass too. Her punishment will just go on and on. LOL
Sorry I couldn't be there with you guys, but post Ramadan was epic this year in Jakarta with an incredible influx of fresh kampong talent. But Johnny I will be your way for Xmas and New Years and we will have to monger hard.
Speaking of hard. Johnny I see you are doing a good job of spreading the word about them chinese boner pills. I am skeptical of herbal medical products but those things do actually work. However, I find there is some inconsistency in the ingredient amounts. Some capsules just seem to have more kick than others. But I must say I usually find myself grabbing for those pills instead of the cialis more and more.
Guys:
I have some business coming up in Doumen, which I believe is part of the Zhuhai area. I tried to google for more information, but it is vague.
Could someone who has experience with working in the Doumen industrial zone please contact me via PM? I have a few general questions to ask.
Happy to exchange tips on SZ and ChangPing in exchange.
Thanks!
Raz
[QUOTE=RasSpewtin]Guys:
I have some business coming up in Doumen, which I believe is part of the Zhuhai area. I tried to google for more information, but it is vague.
Could someone who has experience with working in the Doumen industrial zone please contact me via PM? I have a few general questions to ask.
Happy to exchange tips on SZ and ChangPing in exchange.
Thanks!
Raz[/QUOTE]
Hope this helps.
J
Chang Ping Is Most Exciting Palce That I Ever Seen In China. Welcome To Join Me Next Month.
[blue]Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...
[red][u]Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports![/u][/red]
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i]
Jackson[/blue]
Johnnykon666,
Wondering how the mongering situation is in ZH in late Dec. just prior to XMas - in terms of selection, etc.
Cheers
The Most Exciting Town In China. Welcome To Join Me Next Month.
[blue]Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...
[red][u]Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports![/u][/red]
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i]
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=Big Top]The Most Exciting Town In China. Welcome To Join Me Next Month.[/QUOTE]I guess the guy did not get the message, 2 strikes and waiting for the third for your bye bye Adios Amigo.Btw Chang Ping is under the Donguan District.
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Johnnykon666,
Wondering how the mongering situation is in ZH in late Dec. just prior to XMas - in terms of selection, etc.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
As far as my experince goes, nothing special happening at that time and too early for
crackdowns for Chinese New Year. Should be business as usual, but then again, I
don't run the Chinese government, the mafia, or the anything else that would affect
the situation...ha....
Have fun and stay safe.
J
[QUOTE=Big Top]Chang Ping Is Most Exciting Palce That I Ever Seen In China. Welcome To Join Me Next Month.
[/QUOTE]
Big Top,
Nice job. She is a beauty.
Mpfslover
...starting on Dec15. What are the best things to do for a monger? I have no clue.
Can one cover HK, Macau, Shenzhen, Donguan in 7 days? I'd rather have quality over quantity anytime since the big gun is getting old and needs much time to reload....
Any local monger cares to hook up?
[QUOTE=Big Top]Chang Ping Is Most Exciting Palce That I Ever Seen In China. Welcome To Join Me Next Month.[/quote]Big Top, you have found gold. The most beautiful female seen on this or any other site! More pics?
Ray Black
Quality is always a hit or miss. One provider may give you better service than another. Depending how you treat her, how you look, how she feels that days, etc.
Based my own personal experience, I find that saunas anywhere are better service than KTV or SWs.
You're not too far from ZH, and JK666 and others has written quite well of it. Go there and try their saunas. Fairly inexpensive.
BTW, Macau and ZH are a border away from each other.
In HK, I would try the ******.com board. At least you can see the girls' pic and price before getting there. Also, their maps and pics are a great help to find their places.
The rest of the places all have saunas too. But I would not leave out some other things to try before leaving Asia. The Lisboa Casino's beauty pageant walk found in the basement level, CP warehouses in Donguan, Sha Tsui alleys in Shenzhen. All those are in the low end pricing (well, Lisboa is 500 HKD) and the services are quickies. But the girls are young and beautiful. Young, meaning 18 and up, if that's your type.
If you have a visa with limited entry, go to HK and Macau first before heading into China.
If you didn't get your visa yet, I know they are issuing multi-entry visas in the US as of last month. That's a many times as you want in a year to go in and out for about $170. But a two entry visa ($50 to $70?) might do for you, if you plan on going into Macau from China. But the HK sauna boat package might be better for you. Price wise, it's inclusive of the boat ride and the sauna fuck.
Have fun and fund,
Bill
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]...starting on Dec15. What are the best things to do for a monger? I have no clue.
Can one cover HK, Macau, Shenzhen, Donguan in 7 days? I'd rather have quality over quantity anytime since the big gun is getting old and needs much time to reload....
Any local monger cares to hook up?[/QUOTE]
Been busy traveling in and out of ZH and combined with doing a few of my favorite
regulars, not much new stuff to post. I did get a chance to go around with a couple
of guys to LHL recently and can confirm that there is no more “crackdown” going on,
but there are still the regular police patrols going on.
This one little gal kept pestering me (seems whenever I shave, the little/younger gals
pester me and when I let my facial hair go wild, the older/sluttier ones pester me) and
she was just so cute I had to do her. Name is Xiao Ling and a nice, sassy gal from
Wuhan. Don’t let her young, innocent face fool you, she’s definitely street smart and
has probably been on the game for some time, although she says she’s been in Zhuhai
for only a month. About 5’2, cute button face, tiny A-cup breasts, and probably the
tightest pussy I’ve ever had in China…but that means ever, actually. If fucking Cutie
Pie (who I wrote about in an earlier post) was like being with your high school sweetheart,
this would be somewhat like screwing her best friend, ha…
She gives good, not great, service and I’d do her again mostly for the perverse pleasure
of looking at her and flashing back to my H.S. days…she does have a weird way to do
BBBJ, where she puts about 2/3 of your dick in her mouth and literally sucks on it like
a nipple…ha, ha…the feeling isn’t really good but not bad either and after she finished
about 2 minutes of that, I was grinning, trying to stop myself from all-out laughing, but
she took that as a sign I liked it and added another two minutes. After that, I had to take
a Chinese dictionary and show her the definitions of words like “unusual”, “not standard”,
and “weird”, but apparently, that’s not a good way to give an backhanded compliment
since she, again, took it as a sign I loved her weird BBBJ, and she proceeded to give me
more…ha, ha....if someone could help me out with a backhanded compliment in Chinese
I can use next time that would get the point across, then let me know. I’m looking for
something along the lines of, “You have a heavenly skill from the gods! I wish you could
do it forever!...OK, I’ve had enough, stop.”
Then we fucked in several positions, though she kept requesting missionary mostly, then
she took a shower and left. She’s not into kissing, touching, or DATY, so no GFE feeling
really except afterwards when she was making fun of my Chinese, I was making fun of
her Michael Jackson-like vitilligo skin condition under her armpits, and we tickled each
other until she gave up and consented to the pics you see below. She’s smiling pretty
broadly since I guess tickling puts people into a smiley mode, ha…
J
PS. Enjoy, Big H...ha, ha...
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Been busy traveling in and out of ZH and combined with doing a few of my favorite
regulars, not much new stuff to post
..... smiling pretty
broadly since I guess tickling puts people into a smiley mode, ha…
PS. Enjoy, Big H...ha, ha...[/QUOTE]
Johnny - its always a highlight of the day for me to see a new post from you. Always informative and fun PLUS the fact that you sometimes post pictures alongside the report. Yeah I like the regular photo gallery - but there's usually little/not lots describing the gals/deed accompanying the pictures. Thus making the photo just that - a photo!
Your report accompanied by a picture makes it possible for me to sort of "ride alongside" you - and what rides you get!! GREAT!! Thanks and keep up the good work
SE Asia Joe
Hoping some of you senior members can help me out here:
So I've RTFF for Zhuhai and for Dongguan. Almost end-to-end for both - still working on it :) Planning a trip late Dec. for a pre-XMas getaway. Will be a first time visitor to these parts but not my first visit to China and I speak Mandarin fairly fluently.
Problem is, I'm intrigued by too many things to arrive at a decision between the two: the concept of LHL in ZH on the one hand and the 'catacombs' in DG on the other. I am also intrigued by the sauna scene in both cities, although I would probably favour street pickups or FL pickups in the discos over the saunas, with the exception of the infamous 'red ropes'.
Then there's Amazon. I am hesitant to miss a chance at walking the gauntlet between 200-400 mei meis vying for your attention.
So. An informal poll here if I may: Which would you recommend to a first time visitor given time constraints - I would only have 2-3 days and visiting both would likely be pushing it.
Thanks in advance!
(Also posted in the DG thread)
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Hoping some of you senior members can help me out here:
So I've RTFF for Zhuhai and for Dongguan. Almost end-to-end for both - still working on it :) Planning a trip late Dec. for a pre-XMas getaway. Will be a first time visitor to these parts but not my first visit to China and I speak Mandarin fairly fluently.
Problem is, I'm intrigued by too many things to arrive at a decision between the two: the concept of LHL in ZH on the one hand and the 'catacombs' in DG on the other. I am also intrigued by the sauna scene in both cities, although I would probably favour street pickups or FL pickups in the discos over the saunas, with the exception of the infamous 'red ropes'.
Then there's Amazon. I am hesitant to miss a chance at walking the gauntlet between 200-400 mei meis vying for your attention.
So. An informal poll here if I may: Which would you recommend to a first time visitor given time constraints - I would only have 2-3 days and visiting both would likely be pushing it.
Thanks in advance!
(Also posted in the DG thread)[/QUOTE]
If you only have 2-3 days and your intent is to fuck as many gals as you can from BBS, street,
KTV, and super-low end shit, then definately go to CP. It's a city built on the mongering industry
so you could fuck, eat, and sing to your heart's content for a few days before it gets boring.
Zhuhai offers less-intense concentrations of girls per square meter, but there is still plenty. The nice
thing is that there are nice seaside areas, hot springs, golf courses, and other attractions within
a reasonable distance in addition to pussy galore. All that non-pussy stuff is available around CP as well,
but not as close like they are to ZH. But since you're only in the area a few days, I'm assuming you
will want your cock in a mouth/pussy/ass, eat, sing, more cock play, rinse, and repeat, so it's kind
of a moot point anyway.
J
[quote=johnnykon666]this one little gal kept pestering me (seems whenever i shave, the little/younger gals
pester me and when i let my facial hair go wild, the older/sluttier ones pester me) and
she was just so cute i had to do her. name is xiao ling and a nice, sassy gal from
wuhan. don’t let her young, innocent face fool you, she’s definitely street smart and
has probably been on the game for some time, although she says she’s been in zhuhai
for only a month[/quote]
jk,
thanks for the time with us in zhuhai the other day and your helpful calls in recent days too.
looking at the timeline of this fr, (and these pics) i do not believe that this is the same truly young cutie that was pestering you when i was with you in lhl's outdoor cafe waiting on laguy.
that girl was even younger and in my eyes than almost ****!
however, as with this girl, a real born street smart "young adult" who knows exactly how to extract every ounce of yuan from your pocket!
perhaps, we might see you in cp this weekend?
[quote=crazier]jk,
thanks for the time with us in zhuhai the other day and your helpful calls in recent days too.
looking at the timeline of this fr, (and these pics) i do not believe that this is the same truly young cutie that was pestering you when i was with you in lhl's outdoor cafe waiting on laguy.
that girl was even younger and in my eyes than almost ****!
however, as with this girl, a real born street smart "young adult" who knows exactly how to extract every ounce of yuan from your pocket!
perhaps, we might see you in cp this weekend?[/quote]
hey crazier,
this is definately the same gal that was bothering me while you were "working" on softening up
your lookout gal...see what a difference putting her hair up/down will do? she actually had her hair
up when i first met her, giving her the super-young look we both spied initially, but after fucking/tickling,
she was a bit messier than when she arrived at my place.
i guess between her, the other zh petite cuties, and my little honey mamasan jr. in cp, you can
see i can't resist these types of gals, ha ha...
j
JK.,
I was trying to connect with you today before I left but your phone was off so I went and did the Jinyu Hotel sauna with the 2 hours I had at hand. Selected the same small girl No 102 again and she allowed me to film the "red rope" sequences that I missed the last time so it was worth the "distraction".
I had saved the "load" for my massage "darling" in Chang Ping but she called after work ad 3am to plead not to visit as she was TIRED out since it was a busy Sat for them in Chang Ping. Well. at least No 102 had her share of my "power-release!"
C.
Crazier, glad you had a good time, somewhat, ha ha...
And to you, Crazier, and the other few people I was to have met over these past few days, sorry my phone
has been switched off. It just means I'm not in ZH at the moment. I'm in Northern China at the moment
and will be back sometime in the next week, I hope. Post a msg or PM me if you need any help or suggestions
in ZH and I'll do my best to help.
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Hey Crazier,
This is DEFINATELY the same gal that was bothering me while you were "working" on softening up
your lookout gal...see what a difference putting her hair up/down will do? She actually had her hair
up when I first met her, giving her the super-young look we both spied initially, but after fucking/tickling,
she was a bit messier than when she arrived at my place.
I guess between her, the other ZH petite cuties, and my little honey mamasan jr. in CP, you can
see I can't resist these types of gals, ha ha...
J[/QUOTE]
Looking at the pics of Xiao Ling, and the info youve provided, Im sure she is the same girl that was hanging around me the other day. She had her hair tied back really tight, and lots of white makeup on her face which made her look quite different to your pics. Certainly had the look of experience to her. Chatted to some chinese locals who drink on LHL every night and they said she has been working the strip for about a year. She tried her luck with several taiwanese guys walking by, but they all flicked her and she ended up back to the spot next to where I was sitting. Think I need to give her some more attention this weekend and she what she is like for myself (will do my best to get some pics too, for comparisons).
After a tepid experience in Beijing and North China, it was nice to return to the warmer
weather and warmer gals of South China. After putting my things away, I immediately
called up a regular LHL gal. She’s busy, ofcourse…well, well, well…what to do?
Luckily, I had a couple of new LHL numbers I horded last week while walking around
with a visiting monger. Totally forgot who is who and what they look like, but that just
adds to the fun of Russian roulette pussy. Called up Xiao Xiao and she somehow
remembered who I was and who I was with when she gave me her number based on
a general description of my physical appearance and my voice. Crazy, these girls should
be recruited by Hu Jintao for the Chinese secret police, if they haven’t already been.
She comes over to my place and I’m pleasantly surprised by her looks; a nice combination
of innocence and slutty in my eyes, ha ha…she’s sassy and playful but starts pestering
me to take her all night from the getgo, which mean, ofcourse, I won’t be. She also noticed
that another LHL had written her name on some scrap paper on my coffee table during
an impromptu Chinese character writing lesson. She said, “Hey, Xiao Ling, I know her.
When did you do her? Yesterday?” I tried to plead ignorance but she laughed it off. Then
She stripped to reveal a big flower tattoo on her left breast. I kind of laugh since it looks
pretty lame AND it’s fake. She seems to agree but she said it was her mamasan’s idea,
and when she wears low-cut clothing with a push-up bra, it works pretty well to attract
guys and as a conversation starter. I told her it was still lame, ha ha…
She’s about 5’3, plump almost to be chubby but not yet a fatty (she said she took 10 days
off recently because of her period and some other illness and did nothing but watch TV
and eat and eat…and eat). Good sized 34 C breasts and nice skin on her face and body.
We took a nice mutual shower where she insisted on washing everything and then onto
the bed for service. Interesting BBBJ where she kind of licks your balls and shafts in a
slow methodical way leading to a slow methodical sucking of the whole shaft. I’m making
it sound better than it is, but I’m wondering where these gals learn BJs and who’s filling
their heads with the opinion that they are actually good at it…anyway, after 10 minutes
or so of BBBJ, she looked up at me and said, “I know this is great service, right? Take
me for LT!” and I had to laugh again and tell her BBBJ was mildly good at best, which
meant no more BBBJ immediately, ofcourse. Well, no big loss there. The FS was good
and energetic and she was enthusiastic. Cleaned up, then she left with 200 + 20 for taxi.
OK experience, but I wouldn’t repeat, though I have the feeling that repeat sessions with
Xiao Xiao would get progressively better and more passionate, judging from her personality
and physical reactions.
At this point, I guess I could have gone to sleep or whatever, but the beauty of Zhuhai
is that there are so many options at your fingertips 24 hours a day. So, take a midnight
snack of BBQ and some chicken soup at a small restaurant near my apt and head off to
Da Ming Yuan. I only chose this place because it’s physically closest to where I live and
it’s dependable in a “middle-of-the-road-or-better experience everytime” way. Got
there and it was BUSY. Damn…Wednesday night, midnight-ish…guess all the time
is DMY time in ZH. Got a room after a 5 minute wait then looked through the lineups.
It was a pretty weak lineup, I gotta say. Saw about 25 gals and only even thought about
doing 1 or 2. Either get an ass-licking, dick sucking, pussy fuckingly OK time or go home…
well, I’ll opt for the former. Forgot the gal’s name but she was #691 from some small
village in Hebei and been working in DMY for 3 months after about 6 months working
in a Dongguan hotel. One thing that stands out about this gal is that she had a genuine
smile and was almost giddy most of the time. Not in a drugged out way, but just a naturally
happy person, I guess. It made everything more playful and relaxed. Her service is nice
and she pays attention to small details like gently washing your face in the shower, drying
you off after the shower, and just chatting with you in general. I did learn that a large
minority of foreigners that go to DMY usually opt for no liquids/licking/sucking service
and just have the girl give them a breast massage then give them a handjob while they
play with a girl’s breasts. Ha ha…not the ISG mongers that I know, but she said she hasn’t
had much experience herself, but all the gals talk to each other about customers and their
experiences.
Overall service was OK, nothing special. BBBJ was good, if not a little too enthusiastic,
and she was tight and wet and had nice plump body similar to Xiao Xiao. I pulled out and
asked her for a BBBJCIM but she insisted on a condom for CIM, so she finished me off
with a CBJ which was pretty good actually. I even asked her to use a vibrator to stimulate
my balls and shaft while she sucked, but it ran out of power after a few seconds, which gave
us both a chuckle. I suggested she stop using the vibrator on herself between customers
and she smile and kept sucking. In fact, I had several conversations with OAH at about
this time and she didn’t bat an eye and kept her mouth magic going on my balls and shaft.
Paid her 150 directly and then paid up 110 at the front desk with the VIP card. Went home
and had a nice restful sleep. Good to be back in ZH…
J
You can't really see it from her clothing, but this gal has some huge breasts. She said she wasn't
wearing as revealing clothing for now until she loses that extra weight she's gained recently...ha ha...
Dear fellow member,
Going to Zhuhai and Zhong Shang at coming Monday 4/12-8/12.
Does anyone want to join?
Yes Southern China is defenitely more hospitable during Winter.As a Travel update,When the Sky Pier at HK airport is expanded,They will inaugurate direct ferry service between Zhuhai and HK Airport.So our beloved City will become more accesibile and While the Govt is cracking down on the Sex industry in Shenzen and GZ,It will continue to be tolerated within limits in Zhuhai,and Yes,If I sound Pro Zhuhai. I work with the Zhuhai Tourism Board as a Travel industry partner.My company is now one of the largest producers of Filipino Tourists to Zhuhai
I have 4 days in China starting in SZ. I want to visit the good mongering spots like Dongguan, ZHuhai, Macau etc...
What is the best transportation means to do this? How far are Dongguan and Zhuhai from SZ.
Please advise. Thanks.
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]I have 4 days in China starting in SZ. I want to visit the good mongering spots like Dongguan, ZHuhai, Macau etc...
What is the best transportation means to do this? How far are Dongguan and Zhuhai from SZ.
Please advise. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
to one wing low
Dongguan is a large area it depend where in Donggguan , cp is far if you take
the new express way is about 2 hour by private car will be the fastest ,if you are in humen area west Dongguan is only 1hr 30 min , express bus take about
longer because stop to pick up customer last time I take the bus from cp it take almost 3 hr it make 2 stop in zhongshan .
fast eddie 48
250 RMB regular room and 280 superior room
I went and they showed me about 20 girls or so. Keep remembering their numbers, you may want to call back if no bettter ones show up (they come in 4s). Don't feel shy to ask for seeing more girls.
First had a nice shower where she cleaned me well, then a hot/cold massage where she rubbed her titts on my back and front on a wet-bed in the shower.
Massage included rimming and extensive blow-jobs. Be carefull, they want you to cum here so no fuck is needed, but that... yeah!... is included as well. The blow job included fire&ice, and she had coconut milk as well. Afterwards she bubbled with cold water in her mouth around my whole body. Refreshing!
A great service for that price, can't be topped I guess.... Or maybe it can! Come together with 3 other friends (4 minimum), and you'll get a VIP card for discount on your next visit.
Dai Ming Yu rocks =)
Yesterday night received this issue:
HSA issues health warning on illegal penis erecting product
By Hoe Yeen Nie, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 11 December 2006 1956 hrs
SINGAPORE : The Health Sciences Authority (HSA) has issued a warning against the use of an illegal penis erecting product.
HSA says the "Santi Bovine Penis Erecting Capsule" is not a licensed product and has been found to contain Sildenafil, a substance that comes under the Poisons Act.
It says Sildenafil should only be taken when prescribed by a medical doctor.
Side-effects may include sudden loss of vision, or death in patients with heart conditions.
The public is advised not to consume the capsules, and to report sales of such illegal products to the authorities. - CNA /ls
[QUOTE=Orientalovers]Yesterday night received this issue:
HSA issues health warning on illegal penis erecting product
By Hoe Yeen Nie, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 11 December 2006 1956 hrs
SINGAPORE : The Health Sciences Authority (HSA) has issued a warning against the use of an illegal penis erecting product.
HSA says the "Santi Bovine Penis Erecting Capsule" is not a licensed product and has been found to contain Sildenafil, a substance that comes under the Poisons Act.
It says Sildenafil should only be taken when prescribed by a medical doctor.
Side-effects may include sudden loss of vision, or death in patients with heart conditions.
The public is advised not to consume the capsules, and to report sales of such illegal products to the authorities. - CNA /ls[/QUOTE]
Interesting....so I guess it's chemistry and not powdered bull penis that does the trick...
Oh, well, no adverse side effects (besides exhausted, satisfied females who think my
performance comes from being love with them) so I guess I will continue taking them.
Love live Chi-agra!
J
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]I have 4 days in China starting in SZ. I want to visit the good mongering spots like Dongguan, ZHuhai, Macau etc...
What is the best transportation means to do this? How far are Dongguan and Zhuhai from SZ.
Please advise. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
I just took a private car from ZH to CP last Friday. Tons of available drivers around the Gongbei
border area and bus station. Just walk up and start discussing.. Opening price was 500 RMB one way
and I negotiated to 350 RMB. I think it should be closer to 300 or less but I was in a hurry.
Car was early 90's Audi and ride was OK, nothing strange went on and no "passing" my friend
and I to other drivers. Guy drove slowly out of ZH but once on the more remote parts of the
highway, he was burning rubber and we got to Miraton about 2 hours exactly. He didn't
know where the Miraton was exactly, so brought me to the CP train station where I took a private
car to Miraton 5-10 minutes away.
This method saves approximately 1 hour over taking the bus from ZH to CP but costs about
4x more (80 RMB vs 350 RMB) but after splitting with a friend, it was a bit more reasonable
(80 RMB vs 175 RMB), and, hey, 1 hour of my time is worth more than 95 RMB...
J
[QUOTE=Orientalovers]
SINGAPORE : The Health Sciences Authority (HSA) has issued a warning against the use of an illegal penis erecting product.
HSA says the "Santi Bovine Penis Erecting Capsule" is not a licensed product and has been found to contain Sildenafil, a substance that comes under the Poisons Act.
It says Sildenafil should only be taken when prescribed by a medical doctor.
[/QUOTE]
For those who do not know, sildenafil is viagra.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]I just took a private car from ZH to CP last Friday. Tons of available drivers around the Gongbei
border area and bus station. Just walk up and start discussing.. Opening price was 500 RMB one way
and I negotiated to 350 RMB. I think it should be closer to 300 or less but I was in a hurry.
Car was early 90's Audi and ride was OK, nothing strange went on and no "passing" my friend
and I to other drivers. Guy drove slowly out of ZH but once on the more remote parts of the
highway, he was burning rubber and we got to Miraton about 2 hours exactly. He didn't
know where the Miraton was exactly, so brought me to the CP train station where I took a private
car to Miraton 5-10 minutes away.
This method saves approximately 1 hour over taking the bus from ZH to CP but costs about
4x more (80 RMB vs 350 RMB) but after splitting with a friend, it was a bit more reasonable
(80 RMB vs 175 RMB), and, hey, 1 hour of my time is worth more than 95 RMB...
J[/QUOTE]
JK.,
Its A-OK for you cos you speak Mandarin fluently and, living there, you have a better sense about you and ability to constantly stay aware of the comings and goings of these locally based drivers many of whom have a reputation of 'doing the next idiot foreigner in".
I would not recommend an obvious "Kweilo" foreigner (who is new to Zhuhai / China and cannot speak local language) to use these drivers because anything can happen including being driven somewhere and being robbed.
The savings of 200-300 yuans off the costs of using a "well recommended and trackable" car from a reputable travel agent or provider is not worth the additional risk. 200-300 yuans is negligible when you consider what a person could lose overall.
Happy bonking!
[QUOTE=Crazier]I would not recommend an obvious "Kweilo" foreigner (who is new to Zhuhai / China and cannot speak local language) to use these drivers because anything can happen including being driven somewhere and being robbed.
The savings of 200-300 yuans off the costs of using a "well recommended and trackable" car from a reputable travel agent or provider is not worth the additional risk. 200-300 yuans is negligible when you consider what a person could lose overall.
Happy bonking![/QUOTE]Good advice. If you are new to Zhuhai and need assistance, please contact my friend Stanley at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]. He is a freelance tour guide.
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My crazy CP freebie is gone now, so going to CP will be more free and pleasant now and
I am posting to see if there are any mongers in Zhuhai interested in going to CP on Fridays on a regular
basis. I will go via private taxi to CP because I hate the ZH-CP bus ride. Going this/next Friday and for
the foreseeable future. I think it's a safer, faster way to get to CP (and the bountiful pussy) from Zhuhai.
Anyway, cost would be about 160-175 RMB per person if only you + me, and then the cost per person goes
down about 40-50 for each additional guy who comes along. So, if 3 guys came via the private taxi, it'd be about
120 RMB/2 hours per person vs. 80 RMB/3 hours for the bus. PM or post if interested.
J
Hey JK.,
In case nobody takes up your offer,
The CTS bus goes direct from and to CP from Gongbei and the cost is 68 yuans. Its a decent bus which seems to be low on passenger load when I travelled and definitely something I could recommend as compared with the Xiangzhou - CP bus that I used many times in the past.
Call either :
+86 756 8328936
or +86 769 83918888
to enquire timings and to book.
The only drawback is the timings which I don't like but its a good service that I used my last trip back from CP to Zhuhai.
CP to Zhuhai - daily at 8.45 am
Gongbei, Zhuhai to CP - daily at 5.30pm (not sure of this timing but around that time). Might suit you cos you can finish work and still get to CP in time for the night's revelry just a little late!
C.
[QUOTE=Crazier]Hey JK.,
In case nobody takes up your offer,
The CTS bus goes direct from and to CP from Gongbei and the cost is 68 yuans. Its a decent bus which seems to be low on passenger load when I travelled and definitely something I could recommend as compared with the Xiangzhou - CP bus that I used many times in the past.
Call either :
+86 756 8328936
or +86 769 83918888
to enquire timings and to book.
The only drawback is the timings which I don't like but its a good service that I used my last trip back from CP to Zhuhai.
CP to Zhuhai - daily at 8.45 am
Gongbei, Zhuhai to CP - daily at 5.30pm (not sure of this timing but around that time). Might suit you cos you can finish work and still get to CP in time for the night's revelry just a little late!
C.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info, C.
For me, it's more that I can't stand spending so much time in the bus. I've taken two different buses
to CP, one from Xiangzhou and another from near the Gongbei station. Both suck and take a long ass time.
I'm the type to pay more to save time but I know a lot of mongers don't mind the extra hour on the bus though.
But for those that do mind, let's save time/money together.
J
JK.,
This bus is not luxurious but, the clientele tend to be a higher end class of locals and some foreigners (usually foreign Chinese from Spore / Malaysia etc).
It was pretty empty (only 8 of us in a 25 seater) and it left CP at 8.45 sharp.
I was in Zhuhai by 11am underground at the Immigration point shopping centre and it was a Sunday late morning, last trip.
Perhaps you want to check it out yourself to see if it is an improvement to the other two buses, one of which I have used (Xiangzhou a few times).
For me, the major drawback of this is the early departure time in CP and the rather late departure time from GB.
My preference is for a good private MPV if I have at least 1 other person to share with. Unfortunately, on my last trip out, I was alone & the miser in me does not allow me to be paying 500 - 600 rmb alone. I found the ride out to be absolutely good in that bus that morning!
They were out by 2:00 p.m. I saw at least 20 Sws.
Damn, they were all out. Even the hot little one that I turn down last night was out.
There was also a cat and mouse show with the SW and LE.
I returned to the hotel and called Angie and she showed up 20 minutes later. All bubbly and ready to go.
After 20 of slow rumping, came and Angie treated me like an used rag. Got off top of me and proceeded to get dressed like a real pro that she is.
Damn nice session with her. Not the tightest pussy in the world but better than the loose pussy I had in BKK.
Bill
Was at Lianhua Lu this evening around 9pm. Sat down for coffee and the girls kept coming on to us non stop. I never pickup girls on LHL as I find it a little dangerous. The coffee girls told us that some guy got beaten up by some pimps recently for talking to a girl for awhile but not asking her out. Also, they also told us that a Malaysian guy got extorted by a pimp for 200rmb because he didn't want to take a girl she sat down to talk with him. He wanted to pay 50 but she wouldn't accept and then he offered 100 and she still didn't accept. At the end, the pimp asked for 200!
Also went to Junhao Hotel sauna (around 530rmb for one pop) to check out the quality of the girls. It is the same owner as the Holiday Resort Hotel sauna (around 888 for one pop). The quality wasn't that good so we then went to the Holiday Resort. At the end, both places weren't up to par. Usually the Holiday Resort Hotel sauna girls are model quality, but this week in Zhuhai.... something is wrong. They were pretty ugly and fat!
Came down to Zhuhai to play but at the end, didn't get to do much. We go for quality, not quantity. Too bad, so sad.... until next time...
I'll be spending NYE in Zhuhai, arriving about 10PM, then heading on to Angeles City the next day. I have only spent one previous night there, and it looked interesting but I was not feeling well. Anyone want to hook up, or are there any parties or anything going on? I'll be happy to buy a few drinks. I am staying at the Hotel Fortune right by the Macao entry port again, unless someone has a better suggestion.
Hey Crazier, I know MongerX said he is thinking about changing his holiday destination to Jakarta. What about you? Any chance you will be in Zhuhai?
I haggled with Sali about the fare going from Chong Ping to ZhuHai, finally agreed on 500Y. The drive from Chong Ping took 2.5 hours. The high way is 6 lanes of new, clean pavement. Road signs are all dual Chinese/English. On either sides of the highways are mostly vacant land with occasional industrial parks and univeritites.Traffic was very light. Sali was going at about 50 MPH.
ZhuHai is a leafy seaside resort town with fancy hotels, restaurants, stores... Got in at about 2:30, checked into the GuangDong Regency hotel on Lotus road, walked the 2 short blocks to the famous Luhoulu shoppping area. There were thousands of people strolling the street or sitting around open air bars, drinking.
Despite the recent crack downs, there were hundreds of very good-looking young, sexy girls strolling the street looking for johns. Girls are everywhere, wall-to-wall, some look very young and very pretty. I just sat down to have a cup of coffee. A bunch of sweet-looking girls swarmed around us, speaking long strings of Chinese, smiling shyly, tugging on me trying to sell their company. We seem to attract them like flies! They pass out little cards with their Chinese names and tel numers. The guys said it's 200Y for ST and 500Y all night. This must be a paradise. I should have skipped all other places in the world and come here first. The hundreds of young girls are extremely sweet-looking, probably the best in China, donning hip street clothes. Finally decided to go with Bin Bin, the sweetest-looking young girl, taking her back to the hotel. The guys said, do her or you may not see her again.
Bin Bin has a small, lean but proportionate body without blemishes. Her breasts are 2 round B-sized melons hanging way out in front of her small frame. She has the sweet face of models, always smiling sweetly. Besides some light eye shade, she wears no make up or fragrance. Her lips are naturally bright pink without lipstick. She was always giggling and very talkative with long strings of CHinese which I did not understand 1 word. We were kidding around in sign language, then she went for the shower. I waited with the camera ready as she came out with a towel around her lithe body. She immediately covered herself up, ran back to the toilet with long strings of protest and pouting.
Got her on the bed. She was playing with my dick, trying to get it hard with a BBBJ. She was smiling sweetly, making a lot of comments about my dick and the rest of my body which I did not understand. She got on me CG, closed her eyes and started pumping me. It was a very sweet sight. Pinned her down in bed, doing missionary. She had her eyes closed, both arms embracing my lower back, actively participated in each thrust. She was moaning and hissing out of her sexy mouth. I sucked on her soft and creamy breasts and her peachy young face. There was a faint smell of sweat from her silky black hair. I came big time and she was still bucking under me trying to prolong the ride.
Like other CHinese girls, she was really enjoying sex and not afraid to show it. This must be some of the best and cheapest sex I ever had. These Chinese girls are expressive, better looking, have better manners, feel much better in the sack, and seem to be much happier than street girls anywhere else.
ZhuHai would beat all other mongering locations in my book. I made plans to cancel future visits to Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Brazil, Argentina....This is the only mongering place worth going for my taste of beauties....
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]I haggled with Sali about the fare going from Chong Ping to ZhuHai, finally agreed on 500Y. The drive from Chong Ping took 2.5 hours. The high way is 6 lanes of new, clean pavement. Road signs are all dual Chinese/English. On either sides of the highways are mostly vacant land with occasional industrial parks and univeritites.Traffic was very light. Sali was going at about 50 MPH.
ZhuHai is a leafy seaside resort town with fancy hotels, restaurants, stores... Got in at about 2:30, checked into the GuangDong Regency hotel on Lotus road, walked the 2 short blocks to the famous Luhoulu shoppping area. There were thousands of people strolling the street or sitting around open air bars, drinking.
. . .
We were kidding around in sign language, then she went for the shower. I waited with the camera ready as she came out with a towel around her lithe body. She immediately covered herself up, ran back to the toilet with long strings of protest and pouting.
. . .
ZhuHai would beat all other mongering locations in my book. I made plans to cancel future visits to Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Brazil, Argentina....This is the only mongering place worth going for my taste of beauties....[/QUOTE]
Please dont consider this to be a flame - just some observations and comments:
You mention that the traffic was very light from CP to ZH yet your driver was travelling at 50mph = 80kmh. I would expect a driver to be hitting at least 100kmh or more on the highways. This is probably why it took 2.5 hours! And considering you spent 500RMB it doesnt sound like good value for money.
The girl's reaction to your camera is not surprising! As you couldn't give reasons to her in Chinese, it would appear to her that your sole objective for taking her is to get naked pics. Even if this is true, you should have tried to bring the camera out in a more subtle way after getting things started on the bed and made her hot and less caring about the camera being there. A good way to soften her up is to take some g-rated pics first with you in them with her.
Its good to hear that you liked ZH, but calling off other travel plans because of what you found in ZH is a bit extreme. Yeah some sweeties can be found on LHL but I feel that the GFE on average is lower compared to other places eg. Chang Ping, The Philippines and other SE Asian destinations.
This is because many of the hotter girls are more mercenary and trying to get back on the street as fast as possible (if going for a ST). Personally I think the Sauna girls in ZH are better value as you receive virtually guaranteed service and the time with the girl is fixed.
200ST/500LT = $25/$63 is not bad but I wouldn't call it cheap. $25 is more than you need to pay for LT in Cambodia and in Thailand you can find plenty of pussy for $27-40LT (and used to be cheaper before the THB gained strength). If you know your way around Saigon then girls can be had for $50 a night. Even less if you know a local resident (or make friends with one) who can give you one of his regulars.
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]
Despite the recent crack downs, there were hundreds of very good-looking young, sexy girls strolling the street looking for johns. ....[/QUOTE]
I think this is an exageration by a guy who was over excited at finding pretty pussy in China. There are never "hundreds" of girls strolling the street "looking for johns" on Lian Hua Lu. About 15 is more like it, 30 on a good night.
On a busy shopping day there may be hundreds of females, but they are not all hookers.
Also, many of them don't want white guys and they often give bad service.
Still, there are lots of sex workers in Zhuhai, mostly in saunas and ktvs, and it's a nice town to visit. One of my favorites.
[QUOTE=Santa]I think this is not true, and I think Johnny Kon will confirm. You will never see "hundreds" of girls on Lian Hua Lu looking for johns. The most I have ever seen was maybe thirty or forty, and that was on a very busy night about a year ago, at times I have seen only three or four.
The best time is around 2:30 am to 3:30am. At the north end of the umbrella stands about twenty sauna girls will gather on the corner looking for customers. The problem is, most of these Zhuhai girls do not want to fuck white guys and the service is often bad.[/QUOTE]
I think he counted in the girls in the Umbrella Bars, the girls in the tourist shops, the girls working in the restaurants, the girls working in the hotels and of course those female beggers.
I was there, met/monger with One Wing Low and therefore I can [B]agree[/B] with One Wing Low that there were hundred of girls [B]if you count in the above.[/B]
AG
Special situation is that a deaf Chinese tourist / monger is supposed to sit and drink in the shopping mall or anywhere, five or more Zhu Hai girls come to him, there is no communications problem because they all can make the written communication in same Chinese language, they should give him their email addresses for instant message or email message if some of them know some simple basic English words. Their cell phones should contain email addresses that can setup. Have you heard about this situation?
Jon1211
Bill Lee and I drove down to Zhuhai from Guangzhou to hook-up with One Wing Low, Santa and AG. As it turns out, Santa missed the train from Shanghai and came in the following morning. Johnnykon666 had booked the GDH on the corner of YueHai and LHL for us. We paid 400RMB for deluxe rooms with great views of the bay. Bill, OWL and I met at LHL to check out the SW action while waiting for AG to come over on the ferry from Hong Kong.
As a laowai, I get an inferiority complex on LHL since 90% of the girls only approach the Asian guys. I reckon as high as 50% do not do white guys at all; YMMV. There was this one Hubei girl that approached OWL that I wanted to do, but she was not very laowai friendly. However, she hung around since I guess she was on the fence about it. OWL and Bill made their choices so I grabbed the Hubei girl anyway. It was all downhill from there. Service was rushed, after which she showered and dressed quickly. I gave her the standard 200 RMB and she threw the money at me. I picked it up and gave it back. She threw it on the floor again. She was pouting and started to tell me that foreigners pay her 300, 400, even 800 sometimes. I kept telling her that I was not them and I pay the same as Asian punters. She got very nasty and refused to leave. I called Bill over for reinforcement and after an extended shouting match and a bit of a struggle; Bill picked up the phone to call hotel security as she ran over and disconnected the line. This effort evidently scared her enough to ask for 10 RMB taxi fare (go figure) which I gave her as she stormed out of the room. I find myself in this situation a few times a year when I do not agree on the price upfront even though the rate is standard 200 RMB on LHL. Having said that, OWL paid 500 RMB evidently not understanding when Bill told him it was only 200 beforehand.
After AG and Johnnykon666 showed up, we had an excellent massage on LHL, followed by a great seafood dinner. One of Johnny’s regulars showed up and she was close to a 9. OWL and Bill were drooling and they both decided to do her later in the evening. Johnny obliged being the true gentleman he is. We took a tour of the BBS area and AG and I pulled some girls for 150 ST after the one I wanted to do attempted to extort 300 RMB from me thinking I just arrived in China the day before. My BBS girl’s service was again disappointing although I have to give her an “A” for effort. It was just a matter of inexperience on the job.
Continued on S. China - All Areas thread
Am now in Beijing to maintain personal contacts and to establish new ones. Having read this thread (and the Dongguan one) from end to end and being intrigued by the opportunities that ZH and CP presented, I was initially hard-pressed to make a decision as to which to visit for the first time. Thanks to various inputs specifically from JK and OAH, etc. I decided on ZH and must say that in retrospect I was initially overwhelmed but overall slightly disappointed.
[B]Logistics[/B]
Arrived in Guangzhou's Baiyun airport last Friday afternoon with a reservation at ZH's Chang An Great Aim Hotel ( 昌安华策酒店 ). The airport bus which runs every hour or so - I think there are 14 trips daily in total, took 2.5 hours and cost RMB 85 one way. The passengers were entirely Chinese and so be prepared for the art of Chinese queing / lining up, push and shove for your luggage and you'll be fine. The bus made two quick stops to let off passengers before arriving at its terminal just east of Gongbei port. There are two main bus terminals but the entire area north of the border crossing is a logistical nightmare of buses, taxis, motorcycles, pedestrians and touts - albeit demonstrating chinese travel efficiency at its best. If you face the border crossing complex on the ZH side the terminal for the bus to/from Baiyun airport is to your far left.
The walk from the bus terminal took all but 10 mins, less if I were to be perfectly oriented. Located one intersection north of where the pedestrian portion of LHL begins and at RMB 282 / night (weekend rate) for a standard single, the price and location was hard to beat. Just across the street was 天地人间 (tian1 di4 ren2 jian1), a busy disco that went to 8 in the morning on weekends. More about that later.
[B]The Good[/B]
A little ironic that although my main purpose to visit ZH was to monger, I found 'the good' in a wonderfully new CLEAN sauna/spa complex located in the ji2 da4 ( 吉大 ) district of ZH about a 15 min. cab ride (20 RMB) from gongbei. I soaked to my heart's content in various hot pools (there are about 10 varieties), baked in the sauna, had a well-administered 2-hr aromatherapy massage and gave the masseuse a RMB 20 tip, all for the amazing price of RMB 148 !!! If you dispense with any massage services the door fee is RMB 78 which allows you the use of their facilities including mahjong rooms, movie theatrette and a buffet meal. However if you partake in 'chargeable' services that amount to a minimum of RMB 128, they waive the door fee. This is a gem of place which I will share with you here but please understand that this is a clean, 'family' type place also ideal for couples - massage rooms are set up with 2 massage tables which allow for couples to partake together. Did I mention they are open 24 hours? Do note that the customers are mostly local chinese and my fluency in mandarin allowed me blend in with the rest of them. In the main lobby all explanations and literature on their pricing system was in chinese but I hope the above will give non-mandarin speakers an idea of what to expect should you choose to visit.
Jiu Zhou shui hui (九州水会), literally "Jiuzhou water club". Same owners as or in parternship with the disco tian di ren jian mentioned above. Saw an ad or two for them on LHL. The cab drivers would know where.
[B]The Bad[/B]
I have a whole stack of phone numbers given to me by LHL girls, and I did not ask for a single one. They'll come to you and you'd have a real problem should you not be approached! Sitting at the green umbrella cabanas does not give you any immunity from them at all. Even a quick glance or a split second eye contact gives them reason to approach you. The girls were mostly 5 or 6s with a few 7 or 8s. At RMB 10 / bottle of tsingtao I was content to while away the early evenings here while scouting talent.
Although a little overwhelming at first I quickly settled in. Took two girls (one each night) back for ST but found the service to be too quick - too business-like, unenthusiastic and uninspiring. zero GFE. I spoke with a fellow customer at the cabana and he called it kuai can ( 快餐 ) - fast food, and it was exactly that. Both girls tried for the upsell (to ON) within the first 10 mins of service. Declined both. I will dispense with the names and contact numbers as they are just not worthwhile.
[B]The Ugly[/B]
Decided to check out the disco on my last night in the hopes of scoring a FL. Arrived very late as I just had my second 'fast food' - it was perhaps 2 or 3 am. I was prepared for the loud techno but not loud chinese techno. It got a little annoying after a while. When I sat at the bar it all went downhill quickly. Drunk bartender asked for RMB 48 for a whiskey and coke. It doesnt even cost that at some of the established discos in Beijing! Drunk bartender, thinking I'm from Hong Kong, tells me in cantonese she'll drink with me and tells me to order another for her. I was too polite to decline. She wants to play dice, but I can't even hear her shout my drink order in my ear let alone make conversation! She said she'll drink with me again but I quickly down my drink and make a beeline for the door. I circled the dance floor a few times but there was no noticeable talent. I was already uninspired by the interaction with drunk bartender so I cut my losses and called it a night.
Summary:
Someone (I think JK) mentioned that if you want variety of activities and availability of girls go to ZH and if all you want is to monger go to CP - based on this single visit to ZH I totally understand what he means. As a single traveller who speaks mandarin I offer the following comments to summarize:
FLs in discos (tian di ren jian) - If you arrive early enough there are probably 'FL's' on the disco's silent payroll who are interested in your expenditure at the establishment primarily, before they are interested in your wallet for activities outside the establishment.
BBS - did not partake, though I saw a few in the back alleys from LHL.
KTV - did not partake, though I suspect that this is where the real talent is to be found. A little difficult if you're travelling alone unless you take a small room and are prepared for the minimum expenditure or if they have a main hall.
LHL - cabana girls are not worth the cruising. they are probably hardened by what they observe around them day in day out. Those plying LHL itself - there are some lookers but service is zilch. Please let me know if you're a visitor and have found any who offer GFE here. The girls all have an 'aunt' and report accordingly before and after your session. I suspect they are all in debt to them for their passage to ZH and so they go for quantity not quality.
RTF - no, unless I return with a partner just to visit the spas and hot springs for a 'romantic' interlude or weekend!!
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Great report from Raverboy about the potential ups and downs of Zhuhai. I'll add some personal comments:
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Am now in Beijing to maintain personal contacts and to establish new ones. Having read this thread (and the Dongguan one) from end to end and being intrigued by the opportunities that ZH and CP presented, I was initially hard-pressed to make a decision as to which to visit for the first time. Thanks to various inputs specifically from JK and OAH, etc. I decided on ZH and must say that in retrospect I was initially overwhelmed but overall slightly disappointed....
[/QUOTE]
"Overwhelmed but overall slightly disappointed" is a great description of the average Zhuhai experience. There is a LOT of promise and potential in everything from the LHL gals, to the open-air bar gals, to bar freebies, to general freebies, but I've found that Zhuhai being a semi-resort town makes this all a slightly more difficult-to-capture-animal than in other cities. It takes some time and patience, both of which traveling mongers are usually short of.
[QUOTE=Raverboy]
I have a whole stack of phone numbers given to me by LHL girls, and I did not ask for a single one. They'll come to you and you'd have a real problem should you not be approached! Sitting at the green umbrella cabanas does not give you any immunity from them at all. Even a quick glance or a split second eye contact gives them reason to approach you. The girls were mostly 5 or 6s with a few 7 or 8s. At RMB 10 / bottle of tsingtao I was content to while away the early evenings here while scouting talent.
[/QUOTE]
This is probably the most unique and enjoyable part of Zhuhai and you seemed to have taken full enjoyment of it...
[QUOTE=Raverboy]
Although a little overwhelming at first I quickly settled in. Took two girls (one each night) back for ST but found the service to be too quick - too business-like, unenthusiastic and uninspiring. zero GFE. I spoke with a fellow customer at the cabana and he called it kuai can ( 快餐 ) - fast food, and it was exactly that. Both girls tried for the upsell (to ON) within the first 10 mins of service. Declined both. I will dispense with the names and contact numbers as they are just not worthwhile.
[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if I was clear in my reports or PMs, but LHL gals are generally NOT known for GFEs and if you are looking for one there, you're playing a gambling game with really low odds. In very general terms (and this is getting to be less and less true actually), an average LHL gal looks better/younger than an average SW in any other part of China and that is their main draw, period. One thing you almost HAVE to do is string them along with a "I will take you all night...if your ST service is good. So, c'mon girl, show me your skills..." And this applies to both ST and LT. It doesn't work every time, but I guarantee that your ratio of good/bad experiences with LHL gals will go up instantly with this method. And if you're a foreigner, be sure to state you know the ST price is 200 RMB and that you want BBBJ/pics/anal/fisting or whatever BEFORE you get to the hotel room. It'll save you lots of grief later.
I've done at least 30-40 LHL gals by now and I'd say about 50% were OK or forgetable were 50% were good, 25% of that were great and worth repeating, and 5% of these became GFE (and this is only after repeated ST/LTs). I've had some one-off GFE on LHL, but it's like winning the lottery more than an equation of "Pay $ = GFE", so don't go into it expecting this equation. If you are, then CP is a better destination where this equation tends to be true much more often than in ZH.
[QUOTE=Raverboy]
Decided to check out the disco on my last night in the hopes of scoring a FL. Arrived very late as I just had my second 'fast food' - it was perhaps 2 or 3 am....I was already uninspired by the interaction with drunk bartender so I cut my losses and called it a night.
[/QUOTE]
I would say Tian Di Ren Ja is a weird place...most of the LHL gals go there before/after work to drink and relax and also pick up additional customers, but usually just to drink and relax (ie. take ecstacy and shake their ass all night). It's so fucking crowded in there (sardine-style shoulder-to-shoulder on the dancefloor) that if you pick up a FL, it'd be an accomplishment, not to mention a freebie. The Yesterday Disco (more so) and the Shuiwan Bar street (less so) is much, much less crowded and a better place to pick up both FLs and freebies. And I know it's tough when you're alone in a bar, but I never place dice with the waitresses and especially don't buy drinks for them (to me, it's similar to me buying McDonalds chicken McNuggets and feeding them to the McCashier), unless I know them and/or have fucked them before and know it's a slow night businesswise for them.
[QUOTE=Raverboy]
LHL - cabana girls are not worth the cruising. they are probably hardened by what they observe around them day in day out. Those plying LHL itself - there are some lookers but service is zilch. Please let me know if you're a visitor and have found any who offer GFE here. The girls all have an 'aunt' and report accordingly before and after your session. I suspect they are all in debt to them for their passage to ZH and so they go for quantity not quality.
[/QUOTE]
The cabana gals (I've referred to these places as green umbrella cafes and open air bars in the past) ARE doable, but it will take more time and money investment. A lot of them have Taiwan/Singapore/Malay/HK guys who are chasing them or who are already considered boyfriends but don't let that stop you. My recommendation is to flirt with them, play dice with them, and joke around with them while showing you are NOT interested in the girls on the LHL. Then take them out to dinner before/after their shift and come around to their cabana at different times to drink/dice/flirt/show you are NOT doing other gals and are interested in them. Add little gifts and keep pushing to go out with her to see some local sites. Eventually, you can bring her back to your room and fuck. I'd say it takes about a week or so but I get annoyed by even thinking about this arduous process...ha ha, but it works and I know other guys who have done it. If this process doesn't sound like it's for you, then these girls are probably not for you, either. I've also heard a very very select few do a straight "$=pussy" deal, like a more expensive LHL gal.
And for the almighty AG, my offer still stands to you, playboy! One night stand with one of these gals and you win what I told you last time, ha ha...
As for GFE from the LHL gals, one of the things I try to do to help guys who visit ZH is to give them recommendations of gals I've done before. I only keep in contact with ones worth repeating and these gals also recommend other gals with good service, who I then fuck, screen, and also recommend to visiting mongers, so it's kind of a win-win-win situation. I also know that lots of guys like to have the dreamy illusion in their mind that "I found this gal all by myself and I will be the first foreigner/dude to fuck her today/in her life/etc." but in my own experience, it's more satisfying to have a gal give good service who was recommended rather than roll the dice with an unknown. Actually, it's best to combine experiences and the prices are cheap enough in ZH where you can mix in unknown LHL gals, recommended LHL gals, sauna gals, disco FLs, and cabana gals without really busting a budget.
J
Raverboy,
I should say, "I told you so", but that will do you no good in hindsight. Your experience is pretty typical for ZH. I am no expert having only done a couple of LHL girls myself and never repeated with one, but all were in a hurry and had an attitude. I did not try the LT carrot on them. I have used this strategy in other places with pretty good success. I may try it on LHL the next time. Johnny is a regular in that area and all the girls know him as a potential repeater. Obviously, he will get better service than we do as occasional visitors.
I find the GFE ratio to be much higher in CP. Having said that, I am almost as much of a regular in the Yalan Hotel area shops as Johnny is on LHL. Repeat business, whether it is with a mama or a specific girl always results in better service over time.
Just my POV.
OAH
I was staying for a week in SZ and CP. Did a lot of eating and drinking. Everything was OK until I arrived at Zhuhai and had a cup of mixed coffee/tea with cream that Billy Lee bought me at one of the cabana bars. I quickly developed a bad case of diahrrea. Needless to say it took supernatural effort to enjoy sex with the ZH honeys.
The little girl Bin Bin was very pretty with an almost perfect lean body. I would prefer her to fill out with a little more fat. Her body was lean but her boobs were round and stood erect, defying the laws of gravity! She was very cute, very sweet, very helpful, very caring. She took the time helping me with the erection and the sex. she did not wear any make up or fragrance, so her hair smelled sweaty. She never rushed me. She acted surprised that I gave her more than 200Y. I recognized that but it was too late by then. She was kidding around with me a bit before she left. Very cute and fresh girl. Would do her again and again. If I had understood Chinese, the experience would have been even a lot better.
Yan was the girl Johnny recommended, a very pretty, sweet and pleasant girl. She has put on just a little bit of excess fat on her frame. Her boobs were slithtly droopy. Otherwise she was very nice, pleasant, communicative and helpful. I really enjoyed her company and her sexuality.
The main difference with Chinese girls is that they express their sexual pleasures naturally and abundantly, without any hint of faking. They really turn me on. Sex with these girls are a lot more satisfying than any race that I know.
Despite the fact that I cannot speak or understand Chinese, and can only give them 'Xie Xie, Wo Ai Ni ...' once in a while, both girls were very communicative throughout the encounters. They seem to have a natural inclination to care about other people, at least their fucking and paying johns any way, in similar manners as the girls in Argentina. I have to give them one of the best grade for being nice, sweet and congenial.
By the way, the SW were strolling in 3 and 4, giving me the eyes as they walked by. There were droves ofter droves of them. My quick estimate put the figure at about 100, not counting the regular people. I have not visited Yalan Hotel in CP. There is no other place in the world other than ZhuHai where you have such a large supply of fresh young girls that you can get so quickly and cheaply.
I had a great time with the bro's in ZhuHai. Would love to meet again soon.
One Wing Low:
Hi there,
I will appreciate if you will explain me the place you found these gals.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]...This is probably the most unique and enjoyable part of Zhuhai and you seemed to have taken full enjoyment of it...[/QUOTE]Yes, and I'd like to add a note here that it helps if you stick to one cabana. Once the staff know you you become a quick 'regular' although a temporary one. 3 afternoons there and the 3 staff were calling me by name and willing to run 'errands' for me (source for me a bottle of whiskey from their contacts, get me skewered snacks from across the street, fend off unwanted attention, etc.)
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]...I'm not sure if I was clear in my reports or PMs, but LHL gals are generally NOT known for GFEs and if you are looking for one there, you're playing a gambling game with really low odds. In very general terms (and this is getting to be less and less true actually), an average LHL gal looks better/younger than an average SW in any other part of China and that is their main draw, period. One thing you almost HAVE to do is string them along with a "I will take you all night...if your ST service is good. So, c'mon girl, show me your skills..." And this applies to both ST and LT. It doesn't work every time, but I guarantee that your ratio of good/bad experiences with LHL gals will go up instantly with this method...
I read your reports at face value and made a mental note that you live there and so that ups your odds compared to those 'passing through' such as myself. I had to be in Beijing and logistically the stopover was a no-brainer. I just had to decide on where... Admittedly if ISG did not exist I wouldn't have bothered. I guess I should've 'strung them along' but I guess I was too lazy. Go figure.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]...I should say, "I told you so", but that will do you no good in hindsight. Your experience is pretty typical for ZH. I am no expert having only done a couple of LHL girls myself and never repeated with one, but all were in a hurry and had an attitude. I did not try the LT carrot on them. I have used this strategy in other places with pretty good success. I may try it on LHL the next time. Johnny is a regular in that area and all the girls know him as a potential repeater. Obviously, he will get better service than we do as occasional visitors. [/QUOTE]True, and I did have that in mind. See above. I will admit though that I was under the impression (the wrong one in retrospect) that my ethnicity (overseas chinese) and fluency in mandarin would up my odds in scoring a GFE/FL nevertheless I made sure my expectations werent set *too* high. I was prepared to sweet talk and butter them up but I guess my forgettable encounters and lack of time were not in my favour.
Nevertheless, thank you OAH and JK for your input. I will do CP next when my travel plans permit.
Totally agree with you on that CP is so much better than ZH.
I think one major reason is that the girls in CP are accountable to their mamasans whereas it seems that all the LHL ZH workers are freelancers or their mama/papasan (more like pimps) just don't give a shit about good service or returning customers.
There's also a lesser chance of getting rip off by the CP girls. Most mongers here will testify that the CP mamasans are pretty hard on their girls that fuck up.
Being in a CP lineup recently, the mamasan did not take my 100RMB and told me that if I didn't like the girl's service at the end of the night, I didn't have to pay the girl or her (mamasan). I don't think I'll hear that from the ZH LHL workers and have them mean it.
Bill
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Raverboy,
I should say, "I told you so", but that will do you no good in hindsight. Your experience is pretty typical for ZH. I am no expert having only done a couple of LHL girls myself and never repeated with one, but all were in a hurry and had an attitude. I did not try the LT carrot on them. I have used this strategy in other places with pretty good success. I may try it on LHL the next time. Johnny is a regular in that area and all the girls know him as a potential repeater. Obviously, he will get better service than we do as occasional visitors.
I find the GFE ratio to be much higher in CP. Having said that, I am almost as much of a regular in the Yalan Hotel area shops as Johnny is on LHL. Repeat business, whether it is with a mama or a specific girl always results in better service over time.
Just my POV.
OAH[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bill Lee]Totally agree with you on that CP is so much better than ZH.
Bill[/QUOTE]
Where are you - still mongering in Asia? What the hell - your dick must be ready to fall off by now :)
Happy Holidays.
T1234
Cum to southern China. Guaranteed Happy Ending all night long.
Bill
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Where are you - still mongering in Asia? What the hell - your dick must be ready to fall off by now :)
Happy Holidays.
T1234[/QUOTE]
Will be in ZhuHai and Macau from Jan.1 to Jan.5 (Mon - Fri), PM me if anyone wants to hang out. Happy New Year and Happy Endings to all!
Wanted to post these pics from my prev trip to ZH but did not manage so till now. The girl in yellow is a sweet young SW from LHL while the white one was from the race course at Lisboa, Macao.
Happy mongering. ZH is still the best w many options.
Went to Zhuhai with a buddy and our gf's for 2 days over the New Year. First night stayed at the Swan Hotel on New Years Eve, this is a 4 star hotel, but is rather far away from the main areas of town. We booked it on elong.com for 298 rmb, good price, but you could tell it was NOT girl friendly plus had a rather long "walk of shame/fame".
Second night stayed at the South Pacific Hotel across the street from the Macau border crossing, 3 star hotel and rack rate was 268. This was a nice hotel for 3 star standards, rooms were big and clean. This hotel is certainly girl friendly as we noticed several waiting on elevators at various times and they have a KTV on the 4th floor so they have the greeter lineup in the evening inside the hotel lobby.
As gf's walked behind us, we were approached by a mommy outside the hotel area, also approached by SW on Bar Street and over by the shopping street that has all the little outdoor bars on it. Did not see much that looked very interesting and overall, the quality of girls in general seemed not as pretty as Shenzhen, but then again we really were not on that type of trip.
Hope to be flying solo next trip over.
-SZE
dear bros,
could anyone share with the most interested places for mongering in CP & ZH? currently I am in SH and going to travel to HK and MC 2 weeks later.
your inputs are much appreciated.
eg
JK.,
Please check this out.
I went but due to poor mandarin as well as inability to read mandarin, I came out without the right answers.
This station is opposite the gongbei bus station about 100 metres away to the front left.
(See picture)
The 5th line on this signboard surely says Zhang Mu Tou and I also see Chang Ping there.
Can you find out:
1) Does the bus go to Chang Ping first before ZMT or the other way round.
2) How frequent and when does it begin and end.
Thanks.
Definitely an alternative to XiangZhou as well as the once a day CTS bus from the Underground Shopping Centre bus station (B1).
C.
Allow me to help on the 'right answers'.
1) The bus stop in the first two pics attached in your post below is the correct bus stop for buses to Zhangmutou, Chang Ping, Guangzhou Airport and other destinations in southern Guang Dong. Interestingly the other destinations include Shantou, Taishan, Foshan, Shunde and Shenzhen. See my post (#884) below under 'Logistics'. This is the same bus station I refer to.
2) The fifth line first column (in red) says 'Zhangmutou' (you're correct). The 2nd column indicates the route which is 'Da Lang' followed by 'Chang Ping'. Presumably the bus goes to Zhangmutou last. The 3rd column indicates operating hours which is 0745 - 1935 hrs - 1 per 60 mins approx. I can't make out the header for the 4th column but it could be distance in kilometres. The 5th column indicates the type of bus but they look to be mostly 'Premium Direct Big Bus'! The next column of figures is the fare.
Hope this helps!
[QUOTE=Crazier]JK.,
Please check this out.
I went but due to poor mandarin as well as inability to read mandarin, I came out without the right answers.
This station is opposite the gongbei bus station about 100 metres away to the front left.
(See picture)
The 5th line on this signboard surely says Zhang Mu Tou and I also see Chang Ping there.
Can you find out:
1) Does the bus go to Chang Ping first before ZMT or the other way round.
2) How frequent and when does it begin and end.
Thanks.
Definitely an alternative to XiangZhou as well as the once a day CTS bus from the Underground Shopping Centre bus station (B1).
C.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Crazier]The 5th line on this signboard surely says Zhang Mu Tou and I also see Chang Ping there.
Can you find out:
1) Does the bus go to Chang Ping first before ZMT or the other way round.
2) How frequent and when does it begin and end.
[/QUOTE]Crazier,
I am not JK, but I take the liberty to answer what I know for sure and hope to know/think for right:
ad 1)
Geographically this cities are located from west to east in order DaLang, CP, ZMT. ZMT will be the end station with DL and CP as stations before. I also assume that this bus route is via HuMen, so DL will be before CP, and CP before ZMT on the route.
ad 2)
I am not sure, as my reading capabilities are not good either, but I will give it a try in the way that I would think it when I would stand in front of this table:
- first/last bus: 7:45(am)/19:35
- every 60 minutes
- the black digits I assume are the distances
- the last red digits I am not sure if it's the duration or the fare
Please correct me in case I am wrong.
Hth at least a bit.
LW
RB., LW.,
Thanks for the response.
Right now, I am quite happy with the CTS bus which takes a little over two hours between ZH and CP and its a great affordable service. Best thing is that the bus is often half empty making the journey most pleasant. Only gripe is the timings and schedule which is one a day each way.
I was almost desperate enough to check out this alternative but did not want to go round Dongguan before getting to CP.
If anyone has used this service between Zhuhai & CP., I'd be happy to hear of the time taken etc.
Based on your explanations, it seems this bus station provides a good alternative as opposed to going to Xiangzhou where the bus still goes to Dongguan Town and has an overall journey time of nearly 3 hours.
A problem with the public buses is that if you unlucky to journey and seat next to a "car-sick" local, he/she may start vomitting during the journey and that is awful. Has happened to me twice on the Xianzhou- CP bus! SHITS !
Thanks again folks.
[b][color=green][size=5]Prelude[/size][/color][/b]
I didn’t go to sleep on my final night in Macau. I partied until the sun came up, made my way to Zhuhai and went to sleep, dreaming of the plethora of Chinese pussy that would be awaiting me by the green umbrellas.
By the time I woke up, it was 5PM already. I freshened up, had a quick bite to eat and went on the prowl... how I love the thrill of novelty, the excitement of a whole new P4P scene waiting to be discovered.
[b][color=green][size=5]Lily[/size][/color][/b]
Lily was darn cute. I smiled at her a few times as she walked past me, but she seemed to be ignoring this frightening-looking laowai. But I finally caught her attention....
If you don’t speak Chinese (Mandarin), you better brush up on your... sign language. :) She stuck up 3 fingers. I responded with 2 fingers. Lily grabbed my arm and we were off to my hotel...
Lily revealed her tiny little body, escorted me to the shower and thoroughly washed me, as all Chinese girls do. I sucked on her tiny little titties and then let my tongue wander south... Lily stopped me. But she started getting wet as I was softly rubbing her clit, after which she loved my tongue caressing her nether region.
I asked Lily to give me a blowjob, but she wouldn’t. I put a condom on... and then she started sucking my dick. After a few minutes, she gently lowered herself onto my dick and slowly allowed it to slide in. She soon picked up a rhythm and turned out to be a decent jockey. I didn’t appreciate her dismounting me to answer her bloody phone, though.
Lily provided the kind of service I’d grown accustomed to from the China Dolls in Macau. No Kissing. Covered BJ. Pretty mechanical. I didn’t know it at the time, but for Zhuhai standards, Lily’s service was decidedly sub-par.
[b][color=green][size=5]Liana[/size][/color][/b]
By the time I went back out, it was late on a busy Friday night and there didn’t seem to be a whole lot of talent about. Liana was no stunner, but cute enough. What’s more, she seemed really enthusiastic about the prospect of fucking a laowai. She immediately agreed to 200 RMB and was all smiles as we walked towards my hotel.
As soon as we were alone, Liana wrapped her arms around me and started French kissing me. A first! I put on some music and we started dancing together. After splashing around in the shower and making Liana even hornier than she already was by sucking on her clit, she started giving me a great BBBJ. Another first! But as Liana was giving me head, her mamasan came knocking on my door... time was up!
I told the b*tch to get lost and Liana got back to sucking my lollipop. Her mamasan may have been waiting, but Liana was in no hurry whatsoever. She was passionate as can be and a monster fuck.
Since I’d finally met a China Doll that provided great service, I wanted Liana to spend the night with me. I could tell she wanted to stay, but her mamasan wouldn’t let her. She wouldn’t even quote me a price. Liana is a wonderful girl, but her mamasan is a total b*tch!
[b][color=green][size=5]Epilogue[/size][/color][/b]
On my first day in Zhuhai, I had a great looking girl and a girl that provided great service. If I could find some girls who combined Lily’s looks with Liana’s service, I could be happy in this town. There’s always tomorrow...
Loso
Loso,
You never fail to amaze me with your reports. I am truly envious.
If I could only get out of this country- USA for a little fun.
I hope to be in China sometime in the next 3 months if all works out, if not, I will be hating life.
Keep up the good reports, appreciate it.
Loso69,
I had to laugh at your cell phone problem while having sex with Lily. Western men need to learn , tell any Chinese woman that you are with , SHUT the cell phone OFF when you are with them. She may ask for another 50 RMB for this , but its worth it. These Chinese , mostly WG are only conducting business right under your nose , because most of us don't understand Chinese.
To be honest with you , I am not laughing , this hit a nerve with me. I met a Chinese woman 2 years ago , I have been to China 4 times. We are talking about marriage. Soooooo , my fourth trip , I brought my little digital recorder.
Every time she got a call , I put my little DR on. Shit , this woman is an ex WG from 12 years ago. She still has some good old customers that she chases. I don't get the BJ's from her that she must give her old customers. I get very little good sex from her , BUT , I was looking for a wife and not a *****. Shit , I am so stupid.
This blog is for all you guys that do want to marry a Chinese woman. "BE CAREFUL" You guys that go to hina only to play , "BE SMART" and have fun.
Thanks for reading my blog - From: the asshole of the year
Tilegpc4
dear bros,
next week I will be going to starcruise for 2 days to earn some pocket money for mongering then reach ZH on 18-01-07 (thursday). SH-HK-MC-ZH so anyone is arround? lets' party in ZH!!!
cheers~
eg
Tilegpc4,
Great story!
Lily answered her phone as we were fucking. Luckily, Liana didn't have a phone yet... but her mamasan came knocking on my door. :)
Loso
[B][COLOR=green][size=5]Xiao Ping[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
Xiao Ping was another laowai-lover. We were French kissing from the start and she went totally wild as she was rubbing her pussy against my mouth. She gives the most wonderful BBBJs and loved to ride my dick with our tongues intertwined. Xiao Ping left a huge wet spot on my bed. This sex kitten comes highly recommended!
[B][COLOR=green][size=5]Xiao Deng[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
Xiao Deng was yet another China Doll who adored having her pussy eaten. Guess Chinese guys aren’t into DATY. After giving me a BBBJ for about a minute... she rushed to the bathroom... and threw up. Guess the vanilla lollipop didn’t agree with her.
She wasn’t averse to riding my dick, though, as she squatted on my boner and pumped it really hard. And she was pressing her body hard against mine as I was drilling her. Another passion-filled China Doll!
[B][COLOR=green][size=5]Xiao Lu[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
As soon as I walked out again, I met Xiao Lu, who spoke a little English. A rarity in China! Unfortunately, she wasn’t the best service provider. She gave me an OK BBBJ and was a decent fuck. But the passion was lacking, and she wouldn’t let me kiss her lips... either pair.
[B][COLOR=green][size=5]3 Little Piggies[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
Xiao Ping, Xiao Deng & Xiao Lu – 3 little piggies in one day. Actually, I don’t have a clue what their names mean, but Xiao means little & lots of Chinese girls are called Xiao something.
All 3 girls were wearing boots. I called them hooker boots!
Finally, Southern China does not have a year-round tropical climate. Dressed warm, yet sexy, I thought the Zhuhai streetwalkers looked great.
Loso
Great pics, thanks for sharing! What camera did you use for these?
Take care
Pyjama
Hahahahaha!!!
Your writing style to go with those pics are fun to read (either that or I'm in a good mood tonight).
Yeah I had 'Xiao Ping' approach me quite aggressively a couple of times before on LHL (which doesnt happen that often) and this had me wondering why...
but from your account, a Laowai lover indeed! Might try her out one day (I think her number is buried in a shoebox stuffed with the little pieces of paper they use).
Im not overly keen to DFK these girls but sometimes you just get absorbed in the moment by a girl's wanton behaviour.
And you are right about those boots - they are frigging everywhere, especially on LHL. Now when I see any girl in China wearing them, I think the girl resembles a SW (although its probably the other way around, hehe!).
Keep posting the great pics.
azn playa,
i consider dfk to be the most essential ingredient of the gfe. in places where white customers are the norm (thailand, philippines...), dfk is standard. since most chinese customers don’t seem to want dfk, it’s not standard practice in china as yet. but that should get better as more laowai start visiting.
pyjama,
canon eos 20d digital slr camera. canon speedlite 580 ex flash. ef-s 17-85 is usm lens.
loso
[b][color=green][size=5]Ya Mei[/size][/color][/b]
On my 3rd night in Zhuhai, I finally got a chance to meet Johnnykon666, who’d been out of town for a few days. There was a police crackdown that evening, and there were no girls to be found along LHL. But they magically reappeared, just before Johnnykon arrived.
Johnnykon tried to introduce me to Ya Mei, who had the body of a porn star. He wasn’t to know I’d already fucked her earlier that day... :)
Ya Mei had a wonderful pair of tits, but didn’t like my sucking on them. She did love having her pussy eaten, though, and got wet as can be. I had a magnificent view as she was squatting and dancing on my dick, and when she finally succumbed to DFK, my balls exploded.
[b][color=green][size=5]Asha[/size][/color][/b]
After a drink in one of the green umbrella bars, visiting a couple of massage parlors and a nearby BBS, Johnnykon and I took a ride in his favorite mamasan’s cyclo. She made some phone calls and arranged a small line-up. I picked Asha...
Like Ya Mei, she had an impressive pair of tits. Like Ya Mei, she loved my tongue caressing her clit. Like Ya Mei, she reluctantly agreed to DFK.
But Asha spent a lot more time with my dick in her mouth. :) And, contrary to what you may think when you view her picture, she was a real sweetie.
[b][color=green][size=5]Epilogue[/size][/color][/b]
I’d also met a girl I liked at a BBS. She was reluctant to go with a laowai, but Johnnykon convinced her I was a nice guy. She was supposed to pay me a visit after my ST with Asha, but Johnnykon was already asleep...
Loso
Hi Loso, just want to say aside from posting very pretty girls, your picture quality is some of the best I have ever seen. Keep up the good work. 3 more months before I will be in China to have fun again, meanwhile just have to read the posts and count the days.
[QUOTE=Csun213]Hi Loso, just want to say aside from posting very pretty girls, your picture quality is some of the best I have ever seen. Keep up the good work. 3 more months before I will be in China to have fun again, meanwhile just have to read the posts and count the days.[/QUOTE]
I agree 100%, great pics and reports....do I smell a website coming? I met Loso in Shenzhen when he was "on tour" here and he's a nice guy to boot! I don't know how you have so much stamina and energy to do this much shagging, but I will certainly buy a case of whatever it is your taking.
[QUOTE=Loso69]Azn Playa,
I consider DFK to be THE most essential ingredient of the GFE. In places where white customers are the norm (Thailand, Philippines...), DFK is standard. Since most Chinese customers don’t seem to want DFK, it’s not standard practice in China as yet. But that should get better as more laowai start visiting.
Loso[/QUOTE]
I used to kiss the girls a lot but am becoming more selective these days depending on where I get the girl from and how experienced she seems. For me its better to miss that then risk an infection.
GFE is less of a need for me and most girls I take are ST so they are only around for about an hour, but I can see you like it. I like to play around with the girls but not in an effectionate way.
Csun123,
You may not remember, but we met in Shenzhen. Santa and I, together with you and two young Chinese American mongers went to Hu Bei Xin Cun.... too early!
SZExpat,
Thanks for recommending the streetwalkers close to the Panglin Hotel over lunch. I got a great girl from there later that night. You’ll eventually see her picture,... but she’s number 42 in line. :)
Loso
[b][color=green][size=5]Xiao Ni[/size][/color][/b]
Xiao Ni was tiny in every way... except for her big heart. I loved her ever smiling face. I loved the funny way she danced. Xiao Ni was a total sweetie who showed me heaven.
My room must have been her idea of paradise as well, as she was in no hurry to leave and gave me a relaxing massage afterwards. When I handed her a piece of paper, she drew a watch and indicated she wanted to stay with me around the clock... until 6PM the next day.
I’d never had a Chinese girl spend the night with me in China. I’m sure we would have had an amazing time together. But it was only afternoon and Johnnykon was going to continue the tour of the saunas later that night...
I thought about calling Xiao Ni as I went to sleep alone. But it was 3AM and I didn’t want to wake her up. I had no idea what to say to her anyway. The only Chinese I knew was “Laowai” and “Wo ai ni”. In retrospect, that may have been just what she wanted to hear.
BTW, Xiao Ni was the 999th girl to be added to my picture collection. Just one more and I’d reach the magic number!
Loso
Loso,
I admire your taste. She looks like someone I would be comfortable with spending the night as well with me.
By the way can you or anybody else in this forum pardon my ignorance and explain to me what DFK means.
Woxin - check out the "abbreviations" listing in the "top heading"
[QUOTE=Woxin]Loso,
I admire your taste. She looks like someone I would be comfortable with spending the night as well with me.
By the way can you or anybody else in this forum pardon my ignorance and explain to me what DFK means.[/QUOTE]
[b][color=green][size=5]Her Bing[/size][/color][/b]
One of the saunas on Johnnykon’s tour was the Da Ming Yuan sauna. The captain only showed us 2 line-ups, but there were a few really pretty girls. I picked Her Bing (#015) and Johnnykon talked to her to make sure I would be allowed to take pictures.
The sauna girls in Zhuhai have quite a few tricks up their sleeve. This is the complete routine:
- I was asked to lie down on the massage table.
- Her Bing first washed the front, and then gave me a short body massage with her tits.
- After I’d turned over, she repeated the procedure on my back.
- Her Bing gave my back a cat bath, slurped as she deposited two lines of tea on my back and then proceeded to suck it all off.
- The same procedure (cat bath, slurping, sucking) was repeated on my ass cheeks and both my legs.
- The action moved to the bed, where I was asked to sit on all fours.
- Her Bing cleaned my asshole and then rubbed it with some kind of lubricant.
- Her Bing should have rimmed my ass at this stage, but skipped that.
Next came the famous Fire & Ice routine, where the girl sucks your dick with all kinds of liquids in her mouth: hot & cold water, hot & cold tea, Listerine...
Finally, Her Bing applied some K-Y to her pussy, squatted on my dick and popped up and down until I popped.
Johnnykon had explained to me that I could either pay the girl directly or pay everything together at reception. If you pay at reception, the girl will only receive the money at the end of the month. It’s a way of punishing the girl when you receive bad service.
This was my 1st sauna experience in China and I thought I received pretty good service, so I gave the girl 200 RMB (150 RMB + 50 RMB tip). Afterwards, I discovered that I didn’t get complete service – she left out the ass rimming, probably her least favorite part of the routine.
When I went to reception, I expected only to have to pay for the room (110 RMB), as I’d already paid the girl. But she considered the whole 200 RMB as a tip and didn’t fill in the form, so I was asked for the full amount. Johnnykon talked to them & the girl came down with the 200 RMB. As she tried to scam me, she lost her 50 RMB tip and won’t receive the 150 RMB she earned until the end of the month.
In fact, I totally forgot about my stats, so I only realized it after the facts. But after number 999 comes
[size=5][color=red]1000! :D [/color] [/size]
The 1000th girl in my picture collection. A landmark!
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69][b][color=green][size=5]Her Bing[/size][/color][/b]
One of the saunas on Johnnykon’s tour was the Da Ming Yuan sauna. The captain only showed us 2 line-ups, but there were a few really pretty girls. I picked Her Bing (#015) and Johnnykon talked to her to make sure I would be allowed to take pictures.
The sauna girls in Zhuhai have quite a few tricks up their sleeve. This is the complete routine:
- I was asked to lie down on the massage table.
- Her Bing first washed the front, and then gave me a short body massage with her tits.
- After I’d turned over, she repeated the procedure on my back.
- Her Bing gave my back a cat bath, slurped as she deposited two lines of tea on my back and then proceeded to suck it all off.
- The same procedure (cat bath, slurping, sucking) was repeated on my ass cheeks and both my legs.
- The action moved to the bed, where I was asked to sit on all fours.
- Her Bing cleaned my asshole and then rubbed it with some kind of lubricant.
- Her Bing should have rimmed my ass at this stage, but skipped that.
Next came the famous Fire & Ice routine, where the girl sucks your dick with all kinds of liquids in her mouth: hot & cold water, hot & cold tea, Listerine...
Finally, Her Bing applied some K-Y to her pussy, squatted on my dick and popped up and down until I popped.
Johnnykon had explained to me that I could either pay the girl directly or pay everything together at reception. If you pay at reception, the girl will only receive the money at the end of the month. It’s a way of punishing the girl when you receive bad service.
This was my 1st sauna experience in China and I thought I received pretty good service, so I gave the girl 200 RMB (150 RMB + 50 RMB tip). Afterwards, I discovered that I didn’t get complete service – she left out the ass rimming, probably her least favorite part of the routine.
When I went to reception, I expected only to have to pay for the room (110 RMB), as I’d already paid the girl. But she considered the whole 200 RMB as a tip and didn’t fill in the form, so I was asked for the full amount. Johnnykon talked to them & the girl came down with the 200 RMB. As she tried to scam me, she lost her 50 RMB tip and won’t receive the 150 RMB she earned until the end of the month.
In fact, I totally forgot about my stats, so I only realized it after the facts. But after number 999 comes
[size=5][color=red]1000! :D [/color] [/size]
The 1000th girl in my picture collection. A landmark!
Loso[/QUOTE]Loso Congaratulations on reaching the 100th picture,You really have outstanding pictures.
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Loso Congaratulations on reaching the 100th picture,You really have outstanding pictures.[/QUOTE]Loso is the man!
Congrats and someday I hope to get to China and meet you for a drink and some stories.
[b][color=green][size=5]Aisha & Xiao Yi[/size][/color][/b]
During the first part of Johnnykon’s sauna tour, we visited the Jin Yu Hotel sauna. But I wasn’t carrying my camera and there were other places to be discovered, so I was just sightseeing.
Two days later, I went back on my own, planning to get pictures of the famous “Red Ropes”. Of course, I needed 2 girls for that – one girl to administer the red rope treatment & another girl to take pictures of the action.
The Captain was being difficult. For starters, he insisted there was a 70 RMB surcharge if you take 2 girls. That was simply ridiculous and I stubbornly refused to pay it. The stalemate ended when he finally agreed to give me a big room while paying for a small room, the difference in price being... exactly 70 RMB.
Next, I had to find 2 girls to my liking. The Captain would only show me 2 line-ups and there was only 1 girl that passed the looks threshold. When I quoted the numbers of pretty girls that I’d spotted on my first visit, they weren’t available. But I finally got a 3rd line-up and picked my 2 red rope girls.
Once we were in the room, I called Johnnykon and asked him to explain to the girls that I wanted them to take pictures of each other while they were performing the red rope treatment. That would earn them 100 RMB tip each. They agreed and Johnnykon asked me to get both girls to confirm our agreement by giving it the thumbs up and saying “OK”. They both did.
I snapped a few pictures of the girls first. The fact that both girls seemed camera-shy and hid their cleavage (one with her hair, one with her hands) definitely wasn’t a good sign. They’d be butt-naked when performing the red rope treatment... But Xiao Yi’s big smile as she was holding the red ropes gave me hope.
On to the shower. Aisha was designated as the girl who would shower me, but I wanted to feel both girls’ hands washing me at the same time. They never did.
Next was the cat bath. Again, I wanted both girls to give me a cat bath together, but they were hardly ever synchronized.
I did get both girls to lick up and down the shaft of my dick together, but they didn’t like that much. They both gave decent solo BBBJs, though.
On to the main event. I got my camera out to have the girls take pictures of each other while they were sucking my dick as they were hanging upside down from the red ropes. They refused... I got on the phone to Johnnykon again, but the girls told him... they’d changed their mind.
I was ready to grudge fuck the lying b*tches, but they wouldn’t let me fuck them either. They called the Captain, who told me that the house policy was that naked pictures were not allowed. When he requested I wait, I presumed I would be able to talk to someone with more authority or someone who spoke decent English. In the meantime, the girls still refused to be fucked.
As I noticed the girls giggling while pointing at the clock, I realized that the Captain was in cahoots with them and scamming me to waste time. I opened the door and called the Captain back, after which the girls finally agreed to fuck. But there was precious little time left and I was so agitated at this stage that I couldn’t get my dick up anymore.
The 2 scheming b*tches together with that bastard of a Captain scammed this laowai out of 568 RMB!
Loso
[b][color=green][size=5]Getting There[/size][/color][/b]
I took a taxi from the Fortuna Hotel in Macau to the border (38 MOP). Without luggage, buses No 3, 5 & 9 will bring you to the Border Gate a lot cheaper.
After checking out of Macau, I walked to the huge Chinese immigration building. There were no less than 31 lanes, all of them manned. And I still had to queue up for some time...
The Chinese immigration officer checked my passport thoroughly. He even inspected it with a magnifying glass to make sure it wasn’t a fake.
When you walk out of the immigration building, take the escalator (if it’s working) or stairs down to the huge shopping arcade and follow the signs to the Lian Hua Street (Northeast) exit.
When you exit the shopping mall, cross the street and walk straight ahead to the promised land of Lian Hua Lu.
[b][color=green][size=5]Hotel[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=blue][size=4]Great Aim Hotel[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=purple][size=3]Checking In[/size][/color][/b]
There are plenty of hotels on LHL. The first hotel I came across that had been recommended by other mongers was the Great Aim Hotel (Chinese name Hua Ce).
As I arrived on a Friday morning, the regular rooms were fully booked. They only had suites available on Friday and Saturday, but I could change to a regular room on Sunday.
I still hadn’t slept and didn’t feel like checking out other hotels, so I booked into a suite for 2 nights (580 RMB). The rate from Sunday to Thursday is 30 RMB cheaper.
I ended up staying for 5 nights, but never changed to a regular room. That would have required waking up in the morning, and I’m too lazy to wake up early when I’m on holiday.
[b][color=purple][size=3]Suite[/size][/color][/b]
My suite consisted of a living room and a bedroom. I had 2 fridges, 2 TVs and 2 bathrooms.
I had my own personal spa in the master bathroom! Apart from the regular shower head, the water could also come straight down from the ceiling. I could have my back massaged by water squirting from the side wall. Finally, I could sit down, turn on the steam (and the lights) and enjoy a sauna. The spa was good fun, but when I showed the additional features to the girls, it scared the shit out of them. :)
The wardrobe featured a large safe with a number lock and his & hers bathrobes.
[b][color=purple][size=3]Deposit[/size][/color][/b]
Chinese hotels require guests to pay their room charge in advance, as well as a deposit on top of that. Since I’d only checked in for 2 days, they bothered me with their “deposit” bullshit every time I walked past reception. I simply ignored them.
When they stopped me, I told them that I would pay one more time – when I checked out! They weren’t happy about it, but finally succumbed to doing things the laowai way.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Hotels on LHL[/size][/color][/b]
The attached map shows the location of a few hotels on LHL. There are plenty more.
[b][color=green][size=5]Laundry[/size][/color][/b]
It took me a while to find a laundry shop (no English signs), but I finally found one right on LHL.
They charged:
- 7 RMB for pants & shirts
- 3 RMB for socks & underwear
- 2 RMB for handkerchiefs
They process every piece individually & when you go and pick up your laundry, they have to go through all the clothes in the shop to find yours. Their system is very inefficient and it took them a bloody long time to gather all my stuff.
Each piece of clothing is identified by a colored piece of paper, which you have to take off yourself. I had 29 pieces!
[b][color=green][size=5]Shopping[/size][/color][/b]
There’s a huge shopping mall which you pass through when traveling from Macau. Foreigners will be quoted ridiculous prices. Bargain hard and try to pay about a third of the original asking price.
[b][color=green][size=5]SIM Card[/size][/color][/b]
There are plenty of phone shops in town where you can buy a local SIM card. You don’t need your passport and there are no formalities.
China Mobile has good coverage all over Southern China.
The cheapest SIM cards cost 80 RMB. Lucky numbers (with 8s in them) cost more.
[b][color=green][size=5]Haircut[/size][/color][/b]
I needed a haircut when I was in Zhuhai, which turned out to be a great experience.
- They shampoo your hair while you’re sitting in the barber chair.
- You also get a scalp, forehead and neck massage.
- You move to a different chair to rinse your hair.
- You move back to the barber chair to have a haircut.
- They rinse your hair again to get rid off the tiny hairs that cause itching.
- They massage your back.
- They blow-dry your hair.
All that for 15 RMB!
Every time I have a haircut, I feel itchy afterwards. Not in China! The Chinese do most things differently. Sometimes they do it better!
[b][color=green][size=5]Foot Massage[/size][/color][/b]
After a horrible experience at the Jin Yu Hotel sauna, I met Johnnykon for dinner. Since I wasn’t in the mood to fuck, he recommended I have a foot massage.
At the start, it was rather painful. But after a few ouches, my masseuse took it easy on me, after which it was rather soothing.
Loso
[b][color=green][size=5]disclaimer[/size][/color][/b]
this report was written by, and from the perspective of a middle-aged white guy who doesn’t speak a word of chinese. if you’re ethnic chinese, black..., you may have completely different experiences. my report is probably only relevant for fellow laowais.
[b][color=green][size=5]timing[/size][/color][/b]
i was in zhuhai:
november 10 - november 14 (5 nights)
[b][color=green][size=5]statistics[/size][/color][/b]
during my 5-day stay in zhuhai, i had:
st: 11
lt: 0
girls: 11
[b][color=green][size=5]lian hua lu streetwalkers[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=blue][size=4]general[/size][/color][/b]
fyi, lian hua lu means lotus rd. but since almost nobody in zhuhai speaks english, learning the english name is utterly useless.
the area between the min an hotel (where many singaporeans stay) and the chang an hotel is littered with streetwalkers.
the girls will aggressively approach unaccompanied chinese. if you’re a laowai, you’ll mainly be approached by the less attractive girls. but if you see a hottie molesting chinese punters, you know she’s on the game and you can approach her.
[b][color=blue][size=4]chinese only[/size][/color][/b]
according to johnnykon, about 30-40% of the lhl girls will only service chinese customers, and i would tend to agree with that.
unfortunately, quite a few of the lhl hotties would have nothing to do with this laowai. luckily, it’s not as if a laowai can’t get any of the beauties either.
an ji / angie, who johnnykon posted a picture of, was at the top of my to-do list. she truly is gorgeous and works lhl on weekends (friday & saturday) and goes lt on weekdays. unfortunately, she turned me down. :(
[b][color=blue][size=4]business cards[/size][/color][/b]
lhl girls will often hand you their “business card”. her name will only be written in chinese and unless you speak a common language, calling her may prove difficult. :confused:
anyway, a few examples of scanned “business cards” have been attached.
[b][color=blue][size=4]price[/size][/color][/b]
the standard st price is 200 rmb. some girls may initially ask for more if you’re a laowai, but will eventually agree to the usual fee.
the only time i agreed to pay 300 rmb was for a beauty called xiao che. she walked to my hotel at the speed of lightning, and started undressing immediately. when she refused having her picture taken, i invited her to leave. she had the nerve to ask for money for wasting her time. i simply started laughing and escorted her to the door.
some girls will expect a tip if you’re a laowai. the girls who provided great service got what they wanted; the others didn’t.
[b][color=blue][size=4]long time[/size][/color][/b]
according to my research, the lhl girls will go lt for 500-600 rmb. yet i spent each and every one of my 5 nights in zhuhai sleeping alone...
- the first day, liana’s mamasan wouldn’t let her spend the night with me.
- the second day, i had 2 great girls, but the 3rd one turned out to be a dud.
- the third day, i expected to fuck a 3rd girl, but couldn’t reach her.
- the fourth day, i couldn’t find any beauties after my sauna experience.
- the final day, i wasn’t in the mood after the ordeal at the jin yu hotel sauna.
in short, it simply didn’t work out. of course, xiao ni (my favorite girl in zhuhai) did offer to spend the night with me. but it was too early in the day and i had other plans...
[b][color=blue][size=4]service[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=purple][size=3]french kissing[/size][/color][/b]
dfk: 5
no dfk: 3
some girls would not agree to dfk and others only agreed to it reluctantly. this can probably be explained by the fact that the chinese girls are not used to white guys and are oblivious to the fact that we have different needs and expectations than chinese customers.
[b][color=purple][size=3]blowjobs[/size][/color][/b]
bbbj: 7
cbj: 1
no bj: 0
[b][color=purple][size=3]fucking[/size][/color][/b]
good fuck: 6
sterile fuck: 2
[b][color=purple][size=3]overall[/size][/color][/b]
considering the fact that a laowai is a rare sight in zhuhai and that i couldn’t communicate with the girls at all, i would say the above statistics are pretty damn good.
[b][color=blue][size=4]mamasans[/size][/color][/b]
the lhl streetwalkers are not freelancers. most have mamasans, some of which are bitches. liana’s mamasan came knocking on my door when she considered my time was up and wouldn’t let liana spend the night.
some girls have male pimps, who can be total assholes. one girl was willing to go with me for 200 rmb, but her pimp wouldn’t let her go with a laowai for less than 500 rmb. naturally, i showed the piece of shit my little pinky and insulted the crap out of him. of course, the fucking idiot never understood a word i said.
[b][color=blue][size=4]raids[/size][/color][/b]
whenever a patrol car drives through lhl, you’ll see the girls run into the shopping malls and back alleys. usually, they come back out after just a few minutes.
an actual police raid may cause lhl to be devoid of streetwalkers for hours or even days. luckily, that only happened once during my 5-day stay in zhuhai.
[b][color=green][size=5]green umbrellas[/size][/color][/b]
there are “beer bars”, sporting striped green and white roofs in the vicinity of the chang an hotel. there are a few more bars opposite the great aim hotel.
unlike in thailand, the waitresses in these bars are not hoes. they make commission off your drinks and love to share your drinks by playing a game called liar’s dice, which is designed to keep everyone drinking.
none of the girls were able to explain the game to me, but the rules are pretty simple:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/liar%27s%5fdice[/url]
according to johnnykon, the waitresses are available “in a different way”. a lot of them have sponsors already, and bedding them will require time and effort. if you’re a laowai sex tourist who’s only in town for a few days, forget about chatting up the waitresses!
[b][color=green][size=5]barbershops[/size][/color][/b]
barbershops (bbs) are basically brothels. there are a few in the alleys off lhl between the chang an hotel and the chang an good world hotel.
i was supposed to fuck a bbs cutie johnnykon introduced me to, but never got round to it.
[b][color=green][size=5]saunas[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=blue][size=4]chang an good world hotel sauna[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=purple][size=3]location[/size][/color][/b]
the chang an good world hotel is right on lhl, a little past the green umbrellas.
the sauna is on the 3rd floor.
[b][color=purple][size=3]prices[/size][/color][/b]
for a standard room, the price is 388 rmb all-in.
[b][color=purple][size=3]red ropes[/size][/color][/b]
no!
[b][color=purple][size=3]experience[/size][/color][/b]
i visited this sauna with johnnykon and saw 4 line-ups, including a few pretty girls. but i was just sightseeing at the time, and never went back.
[b][color=blue][size=4]jin yu hotel sauna[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=purple][size=3]location[/size][/color][/b]
across the street from the chang an good world hotel, also on lhl.
the sauna is on the 3rd floor.
[b][color=purple][size=3]prices[/size][/color][/b]
[u]1 girl[/u]
regular room: 98 rmb (room) + 200 rmb (girl) = 298 rmb
deluxe room : 168 rmb (room) + 200 rmb (girl) = 368 rmb
[u]2 girls[/u]
regular room: 98 rmb (room) + 2*200 rmb (girls) + 70 rmb (surcharge) = 568 rmb
deluxe room: 168 rmb (room) + 2*200 rmb (girls) + 70 rmb (surcharge) = 638 rmb
the jin yu hotel sauna levies a ridiculous 70 rmb surcharge if you want 2 girls. i was able to negotiate a deluxe room for the price of a regular room, thus avoiding the surcharge.
[b][color=purple][size=3]red ropes[/size][/color][/b]
yes!
[b][color=purple][size=3]experience[/size][/color][/b]
the first time i visited was with johnnykon. once again, i was just sightseeing.
when i went back the next day, there was some confusion over the price structure. when i called johnnykon to enquire about prices, he suggested we visit another sauna.
on my 3rd visit, i thought i’d finally get my red rope pictures. i got scammed by 2 lying bitches and an asshole of a captain!
[b][color=blue][size=4]xiang jing hotel sauna[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=purple][size=3]location[/size][/color][/b]
this hotel is not walking distance from lhl. a business card to show to the taxi or cyclo driver has been attached.
the sauna is on the 7th floor.
[b][color=purple][size=3]red ropes[/size][/color][/b]
yes!
[b][color=purple][size=3]experience[/size][/color][/b]
the captain only showed johnnykon and me 2 line-ups, with no decent looking girls. when we asked to see more girls, none were supposedly available. johnnykon thought that was bs and we were off to the next place.
[b][color=blue][size=4]da ming yuan hotel sauna[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=purple][size=3]location[/size][/color][/b]
this is another place that will require a taxi or cyclo. once again, a business card has been attached.
[b][color=purple][size=3]prices[/size][/color][/b]
regular room: 130 rmb (room) + 150 rmb (girl) = 280 rmb
i got a 20 rmb discount on johnnykon’s vip card.
the vip card only costs 30 rmb, and pays itself back after just 2 visits.
[b][color=purple][size=3]red ropes[/size][/color][/b]
no!
[b][color=purple][size=3]experience[/size][/color][/b]
once again, the captain only showed us 2 line-ups, but at least there were a few pretty ones. i picked her bing, who provided good service, except for skipping the rimming.
but her bing tried to scam me, by considering the whole 200 rmb i gave her as a tip. luckily, johnnykon was there to prevent her from succeeding.
[b][color=blue][size=4]general[/size][/color][/b]
according to johnnykon, the 1st line-up always consists of girls who seldom get picked. you generally need to see 3-4 line-ups before you get an eyeful of some quality girls.
a laowai visiting a sauna will never get to see any beauties. the captains resent laowais and the beauties are reserved for the (regular) chinese customers.
both times i visited a sauna, they tried to scam me. the first time johnnykon was there to prevent it. the second time, i was alone and they succeeded.
[b][color=green][size=5]johnnykon[/size][/color][/b]
johnnykon was kind enough to show me around his home town of zhuhai. he was an extremely generous host & great company. thanks a million for taking the time to show a newbie to china the ropes.
thanks for introducing me to some culinary delights. thanks for saving me from being scammed at the da ming yuan hotel sauna. never mind that my final night's experience at the jin yu hotel sauna turned out to be a horrible ordeal.
i hope our paths will cross again some day. you're a true gentleman.
[b][color=green][size=5]final words[/size][/color][/b]
if you’re a laowai, i would recommend you avoid the sauna scene in zhuhai, especially if you don’t speak the language and are visiting solo. you will only be presented the rejects and there’s a very real possibility you may get scammed. since you’re on their turf and can’t communicate with anyone, there will be precious little you can do about it.
the lhl streetwalkers are a totally different story. there are some hotties out there and the girls that will go with laowais generally provide great service. the lhl girls are way more beautiful than the sauna girls and you can fuck them in the comfort of your own room. they make zhuhai a destination worth visiting.
hooking up with johnnykon can greatly enrich the zhuhai experience. not only is he a wonderful host, he can also keep you out of trouble. and he won’t even let you pick up the tab for dinner... unless you’re very quick. ;)
loso
After a lot of little things added up to a prolonged absence, I have finally found time to post again….
I just wanted to add some comments regarding Loso's great, detailed reports. I think/hope that Loso had a great time visiting Zhuhai and other parts of China, but there were some things I wanted to add which could make his (and other mongers’) next trip to Zhuhai smoother…
While I know that women and/or working women are similar the world over, there are limits to how similar they are. This becomes doubly true if you don't understand Chinese at all or, sometimes worse, when you understand just enough of the language to assume the wrong idea completely. For example, Loso mentioned that "Her Bing" from the DMY sauna tried to scam him, which may or may not have been true, but since I usually believe in the benevolence of people, I wanted to reserve judgment until I understood the situation better. In my subsequent visits to DMY, I chatted with this cutie whenever I saw her in the lineups (she is #15) and she told me that she assumed the money Loso gave her was a tip since many foreigners tip (many times wildly-over-generous), unlike most Chinese, then you have a pretty confusing situation with the potential to get very frustrated. This would suck because assuming (correctly or incorrectly) that someone tried to scam you probably puts a negative pall over the next few hours, if not days, in a mongering trip/destination. This might even snowball by causing you to develop a negative/confrontational attitude for the next gal/trip/ect. leading to a cycle of fulfilling your own prophecies of getting bad service/scammed. And since I’m a monger, too, I hate to see other mongers have a bad time.
Then the last (and most vital) details are if a particular monger has 1) patience and 2) realistic expectations. Without these last two things, the situation almost always goes downhill, quickly. By "patience" I mean talking slowly and simply (in Chinese or English), and trying to communicate SIMPLE, straightforward information (name, prices, length of ST/LT, telephone numbers, etc.). The gals want your money and you want their pussy, so take a couple extra moments to make sure about details. And don’t waste time trying to communicate shit like “You are the most beautiful hooker I’ve fucked in the last 24 hours so let’s go drinking and dancing and then I can give you massage and then I will go buy you a cute fake-Gucci purse then we can eat a nice lunch and then after that we can fuck for free. I love you.” And don’t assume that her reply in Chinese translates to, “OK, handsome man!” either.
By "realistic expectations" I mean that many mongers need to accept the fact that they are in China and people speak Chinese. The vast majority of the China sex industry doesn't need foreign cock or foreign money so that is why people in the industry don't need to learn English. If you think they need to learn English, then go ahead and take the time to teach the girl/pimp/captain/KTV workers, and you might even have a good time. This basically goes back to the “patience” idea. Also, don’t expect better service simply because you are a foreigner. In fact, you should probably expect slightly worse service because many foreigners have a “me king…you servant” and/or “you do XXX = $?? I give you $$$$$!!” mentality which has made things more difficult for non-retarded foreigners. That’s why you have an extra incentive to treat the gals/pimps with respect and to act like you know your head from your ass.
This post is NOT a direct criticism against ANYONE in particular, I am just getting some frustrating thoughts off my mind because I have had too many experiences in the past few months where a foreigner doesn’t have a good time and/or was totally frustrated about one or more situations and blames everyone and everything around him, even though the root of the problem stemmed from what I wrote about above. Can you have a good mongering time in China without patience and realistic expectations? Ofcourse you CAN, but why stack the deck against yourself?
Anyway, I am not saying that every foreigner I've met are ignorant buffoons, far from it. I just think there are simple ways that most mongers can greatly smooth and/or improve their experiences in China, yet these ways are often ignored or forgotten for one reason or another.
I am happy to have had the chance to meet with Loso and dozens and dozens of other mongers these past few months. It’s always interesting to experience Zhuhai through the eyes of someone who doesn’t live here and/or doesn’t speak the language because I learn a lot of things from the experiences which help me to have better times with ZH gals as well as being able to give better, more accurate advice to other mongers.
Stay safe and enjoy...
Johnny
PS. Sorry, I guess I've had it with helplessly watching George Bush's heavy handed tactics these past years from afar here in China (though I voted against him both times), causing destruction and chaos all over the world and causing me to be somewhat ashamed being American, since I get lumped into all his shit behavior. And seeing heavy handed mongering tactics gives me similar irritable feelings...
[QUOTE=Loso69][B][COLOR=green][size=5]Disclaimer[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
And he won’t even let you pick up the tab for dinner... unless you’re very quick. ;)
Loso[/QUOTE]
I know how much time it can take when you have visitors most of who you have never met before when you are the "host" of a location!
JK is a great host and most generous of his time beyond the call of duty helping out here on the forum with info and on the gound!
If you have dinner with him, you should be quicker than quick unless you are not sincere about paying for the tab! (and I am sure you were!) .
Any visitor who allows his good helpful host to pick up the tab on dinner deserves to be "fed to the sharks".
In Zhuhai, I got scammed on both my sauna visits.
In Changping, I visited a KTV once. At the end of the evening, both girls sitting with me refused to leave with me. It cost me a bundle of money and I ended up with nothing.
In Shenzhen, I fucked 2 girls in the pink apartments, and got horrible service both times.
In Zhuhai, Changping & Shenzhen, I fucked loads of streetwalkers and BBS girls. When I took the girl to my room, I had nothing but positive experiences.
Every time I was on their turf, I had a bad experience. No exceptions.
Every time I took the girl away from her comfort zone and onto my territory, I had a positive experience. No exceptions.
The pattern is abundantly clear. As a laowai, you simply cannot afford to spend time on their turf. Finding a girl and taking her home straight away is the only way to go.
Why does a dog lick his balls? Because he can! Put a girl in a position where she can take advantage of you, and there’s a fair chance she will.
I will never visit another sauna in China. I will never visit another KTV in China. I will never fuck another girl in her room. No more away games!
A laowai in China is at a disadvantage from the start. Giving the girl home advantage as well is asking for trouble. As a laowai in China, you must make sure [b]you[/b] have home advantage!
Loso
Johnnykon,
I wasn’t quite sure what happened at the DMY sauna. It was actually you who suggested Her Bing tried to scam me. I was prepared to let her keep her 50 RMB tip, but you said she didn’t deserve it as she provided incomplete service and tried to scam me. Since you seem to have second thoughts about the whole situation, I feel bad about not letting her keep her tip.
Her Bing wasn’t really a negative experience. I’d say it was a good experience with an unfortunate ending. The Jin Yu sauna situation was totally different, as the entire personnel ganged up on me in order to scam this laowai. I was in a foul mood for the rest of the night, but didn’t dwell on it. The next day, I moved to Changping thinking positive thoughts...
Even though I couldn’t communicate with them at all, I did have some great times with the China Dolls. The Chinese have a reputation of being obsessed with money, thinking about nothing else 24/7. But I found many Chinese girls to be sweet and affectionate and didn’t often see the $ signs in their eyes.
On this one month trip, I planned on spending some time in China and then heading for my favorite mongering destination (still the PI). But I stayed in China for the entire month and ended up skipping the PI. If I wasn’t having a good time, I could have rushed through 5 cities in 10 days. The fact that I didn’t is testament to the great looks and wonderful service provided by the China Dolls.
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]
I will never visit another sauna in China. I will never visit another KTV in China. I will never fuck another girl in her room. No more away games!
A laowai in China is at a disadvantage from the start. Giving the girl home advantage as well is asking for trouble. As a laowai in China, you must make sure [b]you[/b] have home advantage[/QUOTE]
Good point.
However, you do not take full advantage of all that China has on offer. If you take some effort to learn some rudimentary Mandarin & some ground rules, you might improve yr experiences in those places.
E.g. In karaokes you have 15 mins to interview her FOC & U can determine if she will go back with U b4 you keep her after 15 mins &, get mami agreement on that. Also yr sample of 1 karaoke is too small.
For sauna, the major problem is photos as far I know. If you dont force this issue, my own experiences on average are better, then again, I am not laowai so I may not be qualified to comment!
I also paid my tuitions at the saunas and KTVs when I started in China, but as you get familiar of the systems and get to know the faces of the managers of your favorite places, then they will not dare to scam you anymore.
I also bought a Chinese language tape to immitate some words in Chinese, especially vocabularies on money matter, and it really works , and these papas and mamas think I am a long time expert in this field.
I uaually know the prices before I go certain places now, and in KTVs, you just have to be straight that you want to screw a particular girl from the beginning, if she says cannot, then send her away immediately, no tip involved, this is normal in KTVs, do not be shy to send away anyone who has no interest to screw.
If you go a few more times, and get to know the systems and pricings, then they will not scam you. But paying some extra tuitions at the beginning is quite normal for all foreigners in the process of becoming China expert.
[QUOTE=Loso69]In Zhuhai, I got scammed on both my sauna visits.
In Changping, I visited a KTV once. At the end of the evening, both girls sitting with me refused to leave with me. It cost me a bundle of money and I ended up with nothing.
In Shenzhen, I fucked 2 girls in the pink apartments, and got horrible service both times.
In Zhuhai, Changping & Shenzhen, I fucked loads of streetwalkers and BBS girls. When I took the girl to my room, I had nothing but positive experiences.
Every time I was on their turf, I had a bad experience. No exceptions.
Every time I took the girl away from her comfort zone and onto my territory, I had a positive experience. No exceptions.
The pattern is abundantly clear. As a laowai, you simply cannot afford to spend time on their turf. Finding a girl and taking her home straight away is the only way to go.
Why does a dog lick his balls? Because he can! Put a girl in a position where she can take advantage of you, and there’s a fair chance she will.
I will never visit another sauna in China. I will never visit another KTV in China. I will never fuck another girl in her room. No more away games!
A laowai in China is at a disadvantage from the start. Giving the girl home advantage as well is asking for trouble. As a laowai in China, you must make sure [b]you[/b] have home advantage!
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Yes home advantage can help but it doesn't guarantee success. Sauna girls can be hit or miss at times and if it doesnt go to plan for me I just need to roll with the punches. I haven't been with that many sauna girls in ZH as I am normally passing through or visiting ZH at the busiest times (which prompts me not to visit) but most of them have left me very happy. Some were truely amazing - others tried to provide less. If they were in a rush to get things done, then I still intended to utilise the full 90 minutes (which we have paid for) and get a second pop. Some try to refuse this which needs language skills to fix the situation. I am completely screwed if they only speak cantonese though.
My expectations of what I want from a SW might be different to yours, but there have been some girls that I haven't been happy with - and they have been in my room to deliver the service. Problems often stem from something related to money, but if a girl is really new and doesnt want to give me a BJ then I won't try to force her. Its no big deal because then I can last longer with the FS (and some of these girls are ultra-tight).
If the girl is a scammer then there isn't much you can do, regardless of where you are, sauna or at home. I try my best to relax them as much as possible and try to joke around and sugar coat the sweetness at times. This can have a positive effect and has enabled me to take naked photo's of most sauna girls I have been with. Pulling out a camera too early can scare them off - I make it seem like I dont care either way (or if I'm desperate, pout and pretend to cry!) and they usually come around. Having a high-res phone camera can make it easier too and they appear to be less threatened by it than a proper camera. Appearing inexperienced with P4P girls and letting them drive the action can make them less suspicious you are a hard-core monger who plans to put all their pics on a monger board. Many girls that have asked me about the pics (and some are very graphic) will seem to believe that the pics are only for me. As some assholes report back to the girls about the pics they have seen on the net, it can get you into deep shit and possibly prevent you from having future success with another girl from that sauna/bar/bbs/ktv. This is why so many mongers are resistant to post revealing pics these days on any board, including me.
[QUOTE=Crazier]You do not take full advantage of all that China has on offer.[/QUOTE]
I only try and sample the different options on a first visit. On subsequent visits, I restrict myself to the ones I liked.
In Rio, the situation is totally the opposite. The termas girls provide the most amazing service, even though you’re playing away. The freelancers are nothing but trouble.
My return to Rio is my top priority for 2007. But I will never set foot on Avenida Atlantico. You won’t see me dead in Help Disco. I won’t even consider fucking a freelancer. Am I limiting my options? Maybe. But by doing so, I’m assuring myself of a hassle-free fun-filled holiday.
[QUOTE=RCA Knight]I also paid my tuitions at the saunas and KTVs when I started in China, but as you get familiar of the systems and get to know the faces of the managers of your favorite places, then they will not dare to scam you anymore.[/QUOTE]
That may be the Chinese way, but it ain’t my way. If I don’t get good service on my first visit, you’ll never see my face again.
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]If the girl is a scammer then there isn't much you can do, regardless of where you are, sauna or at home.[/QUOTE]
The hell there isn’t! If a girl doesn’t perform in my room, she won’t get paid and there’s absolutely nothing she can do about that!
They may feel comfortable on their home turf where they can get away with murder as help is just a shout away. But that won’t wash when they’re in my room,... and they bloody well know it!
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]Pulling out a camera too early can scare them off.[/QUOTE]
To make absolutlely sure I'll get the pictures, I never fuck a girl without obtaining photographic evidence [b]first[/b]. I get better results that way as well, because the girls realize that it’s a deal breaker. If you fuck her and she refuses pictures afterwards, there’s nothing you can do. If she refuses pictures beforehand, I let her walk and don’t waste my money.
BTW, I don’t care about naked pictures. I’m into glamour photography and want the girls to model for me. A camera phone simply won’t do. I want quality pictures and use a bulky digital SLR camera.
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]......
The hell there isn’t! If a girl doesn’t perform in my room, she won’t get paid and there’s absolutely nothing she can do about that!
They may feel comfortable on their home turf where they can get away with murder as help is just a shout away. But that won’t wash when they’re in my room,... and they bloody well know it!
Loso[/QUOTE]
Well, that would be good thinking if most of the sex business in Zhuhai wasn't controlled by a tasty combination
of the Chinese mafia and local police. I agree that you should stand your ground if you didn't get serviced at
all or get totally false service, but if she actually had sex with you and you're trying to pick bones about it and not
pay her, it's never a good idea, regardless of the hotel you are in (lower star hotels they can gain direct access to
your room and for higher star hotels, you're in for a nasty surprise as soon as you step out). This is not exactly a
legit business where you can go to the Better Business Bureau to complain if things go wrong, so if someone is getting
the short end of the deal, it's going to be the monger.
Anyway, I think that Azn Playa has his view of things (which is more similar to mine) and Loso has his view of thinking
which suits his needs. Whatever the view, just stay aware of your situation at all times, be respectful, and always be
ready to lose the price of a ST if things go wrong because $20-25 USD just isn't worth the potential consequences.
Live to monger another day I say...
Now to provide some (gasp!) information about the Zhuhai scene. Things are not bad at all right now and if I didn't read
about all the closures in Shenzhen, I would assume that nothing is going on. There are plenty of gals on Lian Hua Road
with a bump-up of about 15-20% on the busy Friday-Saturday-Sunday earnings period. I do notice that police van patrols
are a lot more frequently on LHL than before, but it's the same old routine of the gals hiding for a few minutes while the
van rolls by and then the girls coming back out on the street a minute or two later.
Went to visit several saunas yesterday, but only as a scouting/entertainment trip because an favorite regular LHL gal of
mine just returned from several months away and called me immediately to "get to familiar" with each other again. Went at
about 9:30pm and was pretty surprised at the higher quality (meaning average lookers of 6-8s, with more than a handful of 7-8s,
instead of the usual 4-7s, with a rare 7-8). The higher quality was true at the Jin Yue, Chang An Good World, and DMY saunas.
Actually, I was surprised that the cheapest sauna, DMY, actually had the best quality. In the past, I've seen some, ummm,
"interesting" alien species on duty at DMY, but I expect it since it's one of the cheapest, if not THE cheapest, sauna option
in Zhuhai so everyone from the budget conscious HK/Macau monger to the local taxi driver goes to DMY for some meat. And the
sheer number of gals at DMY is always impressive, especially if you come in the early evenings, where I have had at least 6
lineups of 8-9 gals (much to the annoyance of the captain).
Unfortunately, my old favorite, the Xiangjiang Sauna seems to be on its last legs. Every time I go there, it seems like I
recognize about 90-95% of the gals. Either that means the present workers give such good service that a unending stream of
regulars go there (no my experience) or perhaps no other gals want to work there? Anyway, I'm close to going on hiatus from
Xiangjiang for a few months in hopes that it will get gestate and change for the better. The "2 dragon horse" sauna that I
lovingly wrote about a while ago which had been closed for renovation was open again but the weird thing is that not one
thing seemed to have been renovated and every last detail looked the same/as grungy as before. I guess they may not have
made their payoffs to the mafia/cops or something. The girls were a lot lower quality than my last experience, about 4-6s.
Finally, on the recommendation of a taxi driver (who, ofcourse had never been there himself but his customers raved about it)
I went to the Year 2000 Hotel sauna. I didn't even know this hotel had a sauna, but I guess every big hotel in Zhuhai must
have one. Strangely, when I first stepped out of the elevator, the female captain was chatting with the front desk girl and
looked at me like I was lost. I said I wanted the sauna and she looked at me questioningly, and then led me to a room. I'm not sure
if I was too young looking, too much undercover-police looking, or business was so slow they were surprised anyone came. Anyway,
the facilities were pretty nice, almost like a fancy KTV room, except there's a bed in the middle of the room. Flat screen TV,
over-the-top gold foil-ish wallpaper everywhere, fake Italian renaissance furniture, etc. Obviously, the room had been recently
renovated as the bathroom was hilariously plain and classic 2-star hotel style with dingy-white tile and bare fluorescent lighting.
There was a weird, colorful plastic chair in the bathroom that looked liked it belonged in a preschool and I'm assuming it was
for the gal to wash/fuck/lick you during the shower. The captain brought 3 girls at a time and it was a slow-ass process, about
5 minutes per lineup. After the second lineup, average looks had been 5-7 thus far, I was about to leave when the mamasan talked
me into staying and she would bring "the best girls." True to her word, a minute or two later, three nice looking gals, about 7-8s,
came in. Petite, young, and nice looking, they were collectively the best I've seen outside of Dongguan. "Damn, Captain ****, what
took you so long??" I thought, as I looked at the now-smirking captain. I wasn't there for service, so I left. Prices aren't cheap
here, with a 268 RMB room fee + 300 RMB girl fee = 568 RMB fee. I'll try it out next time and see how it is.
One last detail I can add from a scouting trip a few weeks ago is that the Yue Hai Hotel (GD Regency) also has an in-house sauna.
The pricing structure is exactly like the Year 2000 Hotel and it took me about 4 lineups before I found any acceptable girl. The
male captain is a pretty slimy, slick character and would make a perfect car salesman caricature. The facilities are old, the girls
are acceptable at best, and the 568 RMB price is expensive for what's offered so I don't think I'll be trying this one out in the
future.
That's it for now. Stay safe and have fun.
J
[QUOTE=Loso69]I only try and sample the different options on a first visit. On subsequent visits, I restrict myself to the ones I liked.
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But how would you know if you were unlucky the first time and normally should expect to enjoy it?
Miscommunication is rampant if two people don't speak each others' language.
[QUOTE=Loso69]
That may be the Chinese way, but it ain’t my way. If I don’t get good service on my first visit, you’ll never see my face again.
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Mongering in China needs time to take advantage of how good it can be.
Its like someone going to Pattaya for a night, having one bad experience, then saying the place sucks and never return. Surely if so many western mongers thoroughly enjoy mongering at one place in ZH it should be worth another try?
[QUOTE=Loso69]
The hell there isn’t! If a girl doesn’t perform in my room, she won’t get paid and there’s absolutely nothing she can do about that!
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Apart from getting 4 guys to jump you, rob everything you're carrying, then beat you within an inch of your life.
[QUOTE=Loso69]
They may feel comfortable on their home turf where they can get away with murder as help is just a shout away. But that won’t wash when they’re in my room,... and they bloody well know it!
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Ummm, unfortunately - no they don't.
An experienced street walker doesn't give a fuck about you and usually has many dangerous friends who can help her out.
Johnnykon has written lengthy reports about what to expect from ZH saunas and the fines girls can receive if they don't deliver. Be friendly to the captain and they will make sure you leave happy to ensure repeat business (but if you look like a one-time visitor to ZH/China and act in a way they don't like, then they won't help you and will want you to just pay and leave).
[QUOTE=Loso69]
To make absolutlely sure I'll get the pictures, I never fuck a girl without obtaining photographic evidence [b]first[/b]. I get better results that way as well, because the girls realize that it’s a deal breaker. If you fuck her and she refuses pictures afterwards, there’s nothing you can do. If she refuses pictures beforehand, I let her walk and don’t waste my money.
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So if you meet a girl that give's you an instant hard-on (or even a 'fantasy' type girl) you won't fuck her without a photo first? If I see a girl I MUST have then I will worry about the pics later. If the girl is a FL and you're nice to her in bed, then she still has to wait for the money and some friendly insistant smiles always get me some pics (not always naked from Chinese FLs though).
[QUOTE=Loso69]
BTW, I don’t care about naked pictures. I’m into glamour photography and want the girls to model for me. A camera phone simply won’t do. I want quality pictures and use a bulky digital SLR camera.
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A large camera like that WILL make you look like a professional who is using the pics for another purpose than 'holiday happy snaps'. If you were into KTVs you wouldn't even get it into a room, which is why so many friends of mine like their trusty highres phones. My pocket digital camera takes great pics and I often carry it with me (unless I am planning on drinking that night).
I broke my LHL cherry last week...finally! I can swear that I've never had this kind of experience before in China...stayed at the Holiday Inn, took a 20RMB taxi ride to LHL...walk less than 10 steps from the taxi and I was approached!
Decided to turn down the first SW to see what others are on offer...didn't take long for them to see that I was a mongerer. I do say that the offerings do vary from your average 5 to some 8's by my standard. After walking for 3 minutes, the first SW whom I turned down suddenly caught up with me. Apparantly, she was following me all the way down. Decided to reward her with her persistance (even though there were others better looking ones)...however, since I value a good attitude to good looks...I sensed that I will not be let down by this one.
200RMB for S/T. Uncovered BJ, several positions later..I blew my load. Nothing spectacular but I was not expecting much for a SW.
Unfortuantely, Johnnykon66 your mobile was switched off (probably out of town?)...will call you next time I'm in town.
I passed a street full of bars (was told it was called Bar Street by the cabbie). Looks like a cool place to hangout before hitting LHL...
AP.,
Took the words out of my mouth there!
C.
Azn Playa,
1) Saunas
If you go to a MP in Thailand, ALL the girls are sitting there for ANYONE to pick. In China, they show you line-ups according to your rank. As a laowai, I’m at the bottom of the food chain.
Saunas have male captains. There is no place for men in P4P, except for the punters. I couldn’t stand any of the slimy bastards.
You have to play away, while I prefer to fuck the girls in the comfort of my own room.
I hated the system. I hated the captains. The girls’ looks were below par. I hated EVERYTHING about the saunas.
2) KTV
I can’t stand bloody karaoke singing.
The karaoke joint I visited had over 100 girls and the quality wasn’t any better than at the BBS.
KTV girls are definitely more stuck-up, even with Chinese punters.
KTV is bloody expensive.
I visited a KTV purely as a cultural experience. Once was enough to conclude I never want to subject my ears to Chinese singing again!
3) Pictures
I took over 10,000 pictures of 177 different girls last year. My way gets me 100% success rate and an average of over 50 pictures a shoot. When it comes to photography, I know what the hell I’m doing!
Johnnykon,
I’m not stupid. If I fuck the girl, I will pay her.
But if a girl refuses to fuck because my dick is supposedly too big (happened in Shenzhen), I won’t settle for a HJ.
If a girl refuses pictures, I’ll send her back without pay (Zhuhai) or exchange her at the BBS (Changping).
If a girl goes LT, wants to leave after 1 round and still expects to get paid in full (happened in the DR), she can forget about it.
If a girl goes LT (agreed to 2 rounds, sleep 8 hours) & wakes me up early morning, all dressed up and ready to go (also happened in DR), she’ll only get half the agreed amount as well.
Way too many mongers let the girls get away with anything!
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]Azn Playa,
1) Saunas
If you go to a MP in Thailand, ALL the girls are sitting there for ANYONE to pick. In China, they show you line-ups according to your rank. As a laowai, I’m at the bottom of the food chain.
Saunas have male captains. There is no place for men in P4P, except for the punters. I couldn’t stand any of the slimy bastards.
You have to play away, while I prefer to fuck the girls in the comfort of my own room.
I hated the system. I hated the captains. The girls’ looks were below par. I hated EVERYTHING about the saunas.
2) KTV
I can’t stand bloody karaoke singing.
The karaoke joint I visited had over 100 girls and the quality wasn’t any better than at the BBS.
KTV girls are definitely more stuck-up, even with Chinese punters.
KTV is bloody expensive.
I visited a KTV purely as a cultural experience. Once was enough to conclude I never want to subject my ears to Chinese singing again!
3) Pictures
I took over 10,000 pictures of 177 different girls last year. My way gets me 100% success rate and an average of over 50 pictures a shoot. When it comes to photography, I know what the hell I’m doing!
Johnnykon,
I’m not stupid. If I fuck the girl, I will pay her.
But if a girl refuses to fuck because my dick is supposedly too big (happened in Shenzhen), I won’t settle for a HJ.
If a girl refuses pictures, I’ll send her back without pay (Zhuhai) or exchange her at the BBS (Changping).
If a girl goes LT, wants to leave after 1 round and still expects to get paid in full (happened in the DR), she can forget about it.
If a girl goes LT (agreed to 2 rounds, sleep 8 hours) & wakes me up early morning, all dressed up and ready to go (also happened in DR), she’ll only get half the agreed amount as well.
Way too many mongers let the girls get away with anything!
Loso[/QUOTE]
1st First you hate the Sauna.
2nd Then you can't stand any of the slimy bastards captains
3rd Then you can’t stand bloody karaoke singing and drinking
4th Sounds like you are a cheap bastard at a KTV
5th You got a big white Brockworth sauage that the girls don't normally see
Overall, you [b] HATE EVERYTHING then you should stay out of China [/b] and be relieved of your frustrations. You are in a foreign country you should try to respect the cultural but that’s you own opinion. Best you go back to Rio.
I do agree way too many mongers let the girls get away with anything!
[QUOTE=Fran123]Overall, you [b] HATE EVERYTHING then you should stay out of China [/b] and be relieved of your frustrations.[/QUOTE]
I liked the SW in Zhuhai and loved the BBS girls in Changping!
No captains. No singing. Just pick up a girl and party in your own room.
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]Azn Playa,
1) Saunas
If you go to a MP in Thailand, ALL the girls are sitting there for ANYONE to pick. In China, they show you line-ups according to your rank. As a laowai, I’m at the bottom of the food chain.
Saunas have male captains. There is no place for men in P4P, except for the punters. I couldn’t stand any of the slimy bastards.
You have to play away, while I prefer to fuck the girls in the comfort of my own room.
I hated the system. I hated the captains. The girls’ looks were below par. I hated EVERYTHING about the saunas.
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In Thailand, the best looking girls in a soapy are usually higher priced. Especially in the large ones where they sit on different steps or have different coloured badges. ZH sauna girls are the same price. If a TL soapy stunner hasn't had you as a customer before, you won't get the best experience from her anyway. Probably just average at best (unless the guy promises a large tip beforehand, which I never do).
Most of the captains I have had in ZH were female, and they got me the girls I asked for. If you tell her (in chinese) "tall girl, large breasts, young face" then she will arrange a line-up to try and match that. If you can't speak a word of chinese then it's not going to be easy! As Johnnykon says, always refuse the first line-up. It might take 3-4 line-ups to see a girl you like. Maybe more. If the place is busy then there won't be a good selection of any types of girl anyway. Go back the next day when business is slow and you will see some great looking girls.
Fucking a girl twice in a ST sauna session, receiving BBBJs and AR, body-to-body massage and (in some saunas) very plush decor - yeah, I can see why a person would 'hate everything' about saunas! Sheeesh!!
I can tell you though - I'm hooked!
[QUOTE=Loso69]
3) Pictures
I took over 10,000 pictures of 177 different girls last year. My way gets me 100% success rate and an average of over 50 pictures a shoot. When it comes to photography, I know what the hell I’m doing!
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Of course you get 100% success - you won't fuck them otherwise!
I think the last time I didnt get a decent pic of a girl that I fucked was back in 2004. I took one of her while she was turned away and then refused.
You mentioned almost all your pics are clothed? I haven't met a girl that wont let me take a clothed pic before she leaves. They are used to it.
The difficult job is to get them to allow naked pics and takes some skill which is a mixture of what I already wrote about. In China they are less willing to do this than most other Asian countries (from my experience). I still get them from many chinese girls though! :)
Hi all,
I'd like to chime in and say I agree with Loso 100%. Whether it's with an SW or at an establishment, if you are not a regular or don't know a regular, then the cards are stacked against you in terms of quality and/or service. Luck starts to take on a bigger factor. A friend of mine who went to some of the same places that I went to showed me pictures on his laptop. I surely did not see those beauties when I was there. Maybe it's his camera. He told me of stories how those ladies gave him complete GFE - long passionate DFK, bbbjcim, etc. Maybe his memory is warped because of all the pot he's smoked in his lifetime. But he did go with regulars who are big spenders at those establishments.
I've had experiences at saunas and ktvs where I wanted to tell the manager "this place is a piece of sh*t, all your girls are ugly." I've had horrible experiences with SW's who I wanted to say "hey b*tch, I wasn't born yesterday. Keep this up and I'll beat the sh*t out of you." Fortunately, my big head prevailed. I reminded myself that this is China, that face is important, and that people have been killed for pocket change. When sh*t hits the fan, by the time I reach in my pockets to call for backup, I may have sustained several stabs already.
Yes, the cards are stacked against you. But you can win. Stand firm, but let your opponent build a bridge to retreat. Be explicit about expectations up front. It won't work 100% of the time, but I believe it should work most of the time.
If I may, here's a couple of strategies that I've learned from others on this board and from experience to maximize the fun/cost factor.
KTV's
Why they can suck: relatively expensive, stuck looking at B team lineups, bad singing, drinking
How to minimize risk: If it is a larger KTV, usually there's a lounge where you can watch a performance and buy drinks individually, thus eliminating the minimum charge for private rooms. Buy a beer and ask a mommy for lineups. Stand your ground if you don't see anything you like. The mommies will BS you and say no more lineups. The lineups will keep coming. If you don't see anything you like, pay the bill, which should be around 50rmb to 100rmb and walk. When you finally pick, ask the girl if she will do ST/LT, depending on your preference. Then proceed to further questions such as bbbj, how long is the bbbj, how many shots, what time she'll leave if LT, pictures allowed, naked pictures allowed, etc. Be detailed. Be detailed. Be detailed. Specifically tell her that if she doesn't do what was negotiated she will not be paid. Ask her twice to confirm. This interview can sometimes backfire because it may make the lady feel like a piece of meet. From experience, they know they are hookers, but they don't like being treated like one. I think it is a tradeoff between time and directness. I have a friend who, like many mongers out there, spends most of his time in the KTV conversing with his ladies. By the end of the night he's able to tell which girl is willing to do what, but he does it in a smooth way. He gets the data points that he wants; She doesn't feel like dirt. Again, it is a tradeoff between time and directness. If you don't speak Chinese, have someone write your questions out. Yes, it's crude, but it gets the job done.
Saunas
Why they can suck: B team lineups, bad service
How to minimize risk: If you don't see anything interesting, just tell the manager maybe it is bad timing and you'll be back later. They may insist that you stay, maybe even insist that you pay for the room. Just tell them don't worry and that you'll be back later in the day, and keep walking. Smile. For bad service, such as lack of enthusiasm, just chalk it up to experience.
What if you just want to stick with SW's and BBS's. No harm done. The great thing about China is that it offers so many different avenues to experience. The pro/con, cost/benefit ratios are different for everyone. Some people like a variety of experiences, some people find their niche. Loso's experiences are valid. I speak close to perfect Mandarin, tip like crazy, and still have had my share of bad experiences.
So what should you do if the other party reneges on their promises? My advice is the same - stand firm, let the opponent build a bridge to retreat. If that doesn't work, it's up to you. But as I tell my friends, "BBFS is okay if you understand and accept the risks."
just my two cents,
minkfan
One big difference in the saunas in China and soapies in Thailand is the service menu. The China sauna girls are trained to followed a set of mandatory service menu but in the soapies in Thailand, is all up to the girl's feeling to do whatever she wants with the particular customer.
Most sideliners in Bangkok will not give bbbj and many won't even give any bj, after spending 3000-5000 bahts for a super sideline sometimes thats what you get, basiclly nothing. But China sauna girls will follow the set of service menu that are mandatory.
About ripping off, both countries will rip off newbies, Thai soapies sometimes even have double pricing for westerners, and sometimes reject Arabs, Indian, African or western customers or even all foreigners in some local shops.
This industry is very commercial, business-like in both countries, do not expect too much imtimacy. Should just treat it as money to buy a service.
Price-wise, China now has much better quality/price/service performance over Thailand which I consider its on quick decline.
To avoid rip off is you just have to know how much to pay for before you go. The prices are mostly quite standard in all saunas in Zhuhai, girls have same pricing basically. I feel quick comfortable in Zhuhai saunas after a few visits, and the mamasans all know I am not newbie, so they won't even dare to try to quote me extras.
Went to Zhuhai SPA Club as my friend came over to visit and chose to book a room there. We tried the girls even though they asked 400 RMB per each (too much!), and were really disappointed. Hardly any lineup (6 girls at 11 pm), all ugly. Never again.
Headed to our standard Dai Ming Yuen and got the standard 280 RMB all inclusive deal: Shower, Sauna, BJ, Massage, Fuck and lots of gals to choose from.
Why choose 200 RMB streetwalkers when you can get this deal?? And no, I don't work for them =)
And chewie: If you show up with 4 friends for their service, all of you will get a VIP card that gives you 15% off in future. Anyone wanna go? PM me....
Azn Playa,
[b]The target audience for my reports is newbie laowais who don’t speak a word of Chinese![/b]
Things are totally different for Chinese. Things are different if you speak the language. Things are different for regular visitors. Where my target audience is concerned, my conclusions stand!
When I do research, I always focus on reports written by people of the same race and age category, with similar language skills. Only those reports are truly relevant.
BTW, I don’t want one pic. I want an actual photo shoot! In the Philippines, I’m disappointed if I don’t get at least 100 pictures of each girl.
PS
What’s your ethnic background?
RCA Knight,
My last soapie girl in Thailand fucked me bareback and insisted I come inside her. Afterwards, she told me she wanted to know what it would feel like. As a disclaimer, I have to say that I speak perfect Thai.
I wonder how Arabs, Indians & Africans would fare in a country as obviously racist as China. They probably wouldn’t be able to get laid at all. BTW, any black guys on the Chinese board?
Minkfan,
It’s obvious that saunas & KTVs are not the place to go for newbie laowais without language skills.
BTW, I have a theory that the good service I got from the Chinese girls can partially be explained by the fact that... I ate their pussies. Chinese men don’t, but most Chinese girls absolutely love it. Try it some day! :)
Loso
Fantastic series of reports Loso. Just thought a quick thanks is in order as I shall be visiting this Chinese city in the near future so all the information you posted will likely come in handy. this is juat an advances thank you for helping provide a nice foundation of information.
[quote=loso69]azn playa,
....
johnnykon,
i’m not stupid. if i fuck the girl, i will pay her.
but if a girl refuses to fuck because my dick is supposedly too big (happened in shenzhen), i won’t settle for a hj.
if a girl refuses pictures, i’ll send her back without pay (zhuhai) or exchange her at the bbs (changping).
if a girl goes lt, wants to leave after 1 round and still expects to get paid in full (happened in the dr), she can forget about it.
if a girl goes lt (agreed to 2 rounds, sleep 8 hours) & wakes me up early morning, all dressed up and ready to go (also happened in dr), she’ll only get half the agreed amount as well.
way too many mongers let the girls get away with anything!
loso[/quote]
did i call you stupid in writing or in conversation?
all i was trying to emphasize was that mongers should be firm, to a degree, and get what they are paying for, but not
to have a "i'm the customer and customer is king" type of attitude where if you paid for "abcxyz for $$" and then raise
hell if you got anything less. it would be somewhat good advice for legitimate business transactions, but we're discussing
sws, so it's not. also, the sw action in zh is much more directly mafia-controlled than other parts of china,
so this "king" attitude could lead to some serious beatdowns, if not death. i think that expecting all people in the sex
industry to speak english and to be nitpicking about pictures was going down a slippery slope and i just hoped that you
stayed aware and safe. nothing more, nothing less.
[quote=loso69]
btw, i have a theory that the good service i got from the chinese girls can partially be explained by the fact that... i ate their pussies. chinese men don’t, but most chinese girls absolutely love it. try it some day!
[/quote]
from my conversations with gals, not many native chinese mongers eat pussy, because they don't see why the
hell they should be putting their mouth near pussies that have seen hella strange cocks, ha ha...many have told me
that a majority of non-china mongers (including hk and japanese) and white foreigners do like perform daty, too.
and the girls don't necessarily like daty and give you better service because you do it. they told me that if a monger
does daty, there is a high chance that the monger only wants sex and not some other stuff like s&m, rep001/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] play, etc.
they told me that some mongers want some really weird shit or can be violent or other stuff, so if they feel calm and secure,
then they'll usually give better service. but i'm sure there are some girls that give appreciate service because of your daty service so good for you and
good for them.
j
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]Hang on... what??
Is this your way of actually agreeing with something I posted on ISG?
Well I guess there is the first time for everything.[/QUOTE]
AP.,
Perhaps you were caught up in the exchanges not to read what I wrote previously carefully enough.
Look again, I did agree with you even before this!
C.
Johnnykon,
You didn’t call me stupid… but plenty of hoes did. :) I speak 4 languages fluently and can communicate in a few others. They speak nothing but Chinese, yet I was the stupid one. :)
The main reason why I eat the girls’ pussies is to get them wet. Nothing beats natural lubrication and it feels so much better to fuck a wet snatch. Or maybe I’m simply too cheap to waste my Astroglide. :)
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]Johnnykon,
You didn’t call me stupid… but plenty of hoes did. :) I speak 4 languages fluently and can communicate in a few others. They speak nothing but Chinese, yet I was the stupid one. :)
The main reason why I eat the girls’ pussies is to get them wet. Nothing beats natural lubrication and it feels so much better to fuck a wet snatch. Or maybe I’m simply too cheap to waste my Astroglide. :)
Loso[/QUOTE]Loso,
If you don't speak Chinese, how did you know that they were calling you stupid? :) Maybe they were telling you that they love you and wanted to have your children?
[QUOTE=Loso69]Johnnykon,
You didn’t call me stupid… but plenty of hoes did. :) I speak 4 languages fluently and can communicate in a few others. They speak nothing but Chinese, yet I was the stupid one. :)
The main reason why I eat the girls’ pussies is to get them wet. Nothing beats natural lubrication and it feels so much better to fuck a wet snatch. Or maybe I’m simply too cheap to waste my Astroglide. :)
Loso[/QUOTE]
Loso, I think we met in CP.
IMHO: Rimming and Eating Sex workers pussies is a dangerous game. You never know who was in there before. The previous guy could have left something behind.
Enjoy Zhu Hai!
AG
Neuromancer,
I was accompanied by mongers who did speak Chinese…
Ace Gallant,
We did meet in CP. You’ll even get a mention in my report. :)
If it leads to better sex, I’ll take my chances...
BTW, are you suggesting that Chinese mongers don't cover up?
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]Neuromancer,
I was accompanied by mongers who did speak Chinese…
Ace Gallant,
We did meet in CP. You’ll even get a mention in my report. :)
If it leads to better sex, I’ll take my chances...
BTW, are you suggesting that Chinese mongers don't cover up?
Loso[/QUOTE]Are you sure that they didn't wanna bear your children? :)
Being a Chinese mongerer, I definitely prefer covering up. There was only one time that I didn't (in my 10 years or so of mongering) and it was with a girl who insisted on going bb (we had been hanging around for a few days or so, I guess that she wanted to bear my children). But even if everyone covers up, don't you think there's a chance of catching something? I suppose that when you DATY, if there is enough light, should atleast be able to notice anything obvious. Not criticizing you. I personally like to DATY as well, but not all the time. Sort of depends on the situation.
Went down on a regular 141 girl recently.-- she actually refused to kiss me on the mouth afterwards (it wasn't a problem beforehand). So I don't think it always leads to better sex. I think that about 75% of the time, I'm sure that the girl enjoys it, but also depends on what is your definition of better sex. Having the girl enjoy the sex is part of my definition, but DFK is as well. And if I had to choose, I would choose DFK over the girl enjoying the sex.
[QUOTE=Loso69]Neuromancer,
I was accompanied by mongers who did speak Chinese…
Ace Gallant,
We did meet in CP. You’ll even get a mention in my report. :)
If it leads to better sex, I’ll take my chances...
BTW, are you suggesting that Chinese mongers don't cover up?
Loso[/QUOTE]
The Answer is YES!
A lot of Chinese or even local people who visit the BBS in CP do not use protection. Thanks to the country's poor sex education! Notice nowadays the Chinese government is stepping into sex education? Another big part is the sex education of these girls. They would want to use protection because they are just afraid of getting pregnant not becuase of diease prevention!
I had chatted with many BBS girls and they told me that we, foreigners, are usually "paranoid". They "think" they are clean after they wash themselve. If you ask them, a lot of CP BBS girl will take the risk of bareback if you pay them more! For that reason, I do not bareback them or even go near their pussies, ass, mouth with my mouth and dick. The girls told me that the local Chinese prefer bareback.
Enjoy and be safe!
AG
[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]The Answer is YES!
I lot of Chinese or even local people who visit the BBS in CP do not use protection. Thanks to the country's poor sex education! Notice nowadays the Chinese government is stepping into sex education? Another big part is the sex education of these girls. They would want to use protection because they are just afriad to get pregnant not becuase of diease prevention!
I chatted with many BBS girls and they told me that we, foreigners, are usually "paranoid". They "think" are clean and believe that they wash themselve up, they will be "clean". If you like to try asking them, a lot of CP BBS girl will take the risk of bareback if you pay them more! For that reason, I do not bareback them or even go near their pussies, ass, mouth with my mouth and dick. The girls told me that the local Chinese prefer bareback.
Enjoy and be safe!
AG[/QUOTE]
[b]Very interesting feedback![/b]
Still, knowing this won’t stop me from engaging in DFK, BBBJ and DATY, which I consider to be essential ingredients of a GFE.
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69][b]Very interesting feedback![/b]
Still, knowing this won’t stop me from engaging in DFK, BBBJ and DATY, which I consider to be essential ingredients of a GFE.
Loso[/QUOTE]
Well then; Good luck to you. Make sure you have a lot of Mouth wash in stock.
And do us a favor... get yourself blood tests every now and then. If you did catch something...please don't pass it on. The risk is yours to take but not at others fellow monger's expense.
Enjoy!
AG
[QUOTE=Loso69][b]Very interesting feedback![/b]
Still, knowing this won’t stop me from engaging in DFK, BBBJ and DATY, which I consider to be essential ingredients of a GFE.
Loso[/QUOTE]I was with a regular 141 girl here in HK. On this one occasion, went down on her and afterwards, she refused to DFK (which wasn't a problem BEFORE the DATY). Asked her what the problem was, since it was her own juices so to speak. Couldn't really give me a clear explanation, just that she didn't want to be putting her mouth on my mouth after my mouth had been someplace dirty.
On another occasion at a sauna (also here in HK), had plenty of DFK and DATY. This time she was ok with DFK after the DATY. But she freaked out when I took the hot towel to wipe my face (it was a new towel which she brought to the room after leaving to clean herself up). Said that she regretted kissing me. This was sort of odd and I suppose that the only explanation is that I have bad hygene habits, since those sort of towels are used ONLY for wiping hands and/or asses. Told me to NEVER EVER do that again. Cause you never know. She mentioned that she had this one customer who was sort of nasty to her (didn't go into details). And she wiped his ass/groin with the towel and later on gave it to him to wipe his face.
Anyway, guess there's a reason for all of that scrubbing and washing involved with most Chinese services. Not that I fully agree with them, but it is what it is. If I had to choose between DFK and DATY, I would take DFK every time.
Neuromancer,
Some Filipinas are like that as well, refusing to kiss you after you’ve eaten their pussy. I go to the CR, wash my mouth & gargle with Listerine and DFK is back on the program. One time, as an experiment, I went to the CR, closed the door and just stood there for a couple of minutes. I got no complaints when I got back. It’s all in the mind. :)
Ace Gallant,
At least I use condoms to fuck them. You should be more worried about the Chinese brethren who don’t.
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]Neuromancer,
Some Filipinas are like that as well, refusing to kiss you after you’ve eaten their pussy. I go to the CR, wash my mouth & gargle with Listerine and DFK is back on the program. One time, as an experiment, I went to the CR, closed the door and just stood there for a couple of minutes. I got no complaints when I got back. It’s all in the mind. :)
Ace Gallant,
At least I use condoms to fuck them. You should be more worried about the Chinese brethren who don’t.
Loso[/QUOTE]
Loso,
I think I am more worried about fellow mongers, including you, catching something from the girls than those "Chinese brethren". We are much better educated than them and there is no reason why we should act like them. We take risks but calculated ones. For those "Chinese brethren" there is nothing we can do about it, they are lowly educated, but hey! AIDS did not start in China, it came from Africa! (I am not suggesting anything here). However I think we should protect ourselves as much as possible.
Keep your raincoat on when you are fucking them! That’s good! Do not be like certain member of the Philippines Fight club threads, he knows he is infected, he would still purposely Bareback the girls and proceed to infect her. That is what I call compromising ours risks to obtain own pleasure!
OK, back to the topic of finding girls for sex!
Enjoy and stay safe! Keep those bottles of Listerine stock up!
AG
[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]...
Enjoy and stay safe! Keep those bottles of Listerine stock up!
AG[/QUOTE]
Interesting that more than a few mongers have mentioned using mouthwash as some kind of protection/preventative measure against STDs.
As far as I know, there has been no scientific study on this topic and I'm not so confident about its effectiveness, either. I'm curious because
I know more than a few mongers/working gals who gain a sense of "invulunerability" because of this mouthwash belief which leads to more barebacking
behavior...
Anyone can add something to this?
J
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Interesting that more than a few mongers have mentioned using mouthwash as some kind of protection/preventative measure against STDs.
As far as I know, there has been no scientific study on this topic and I'm not so confident about its effectiveness, either. I'm curious because
I know more than a few mongers/working gals who gain a sense of "invulunerability" because of this mouthwash belief which leads to more barebacking
behavior...
Anyone can add something to this?
J[/QUOTE]
Not mouthwash but toothpaste. I have one girl used my toothpaste to wash her pussy I thought at the time was weird. It was my own large tube of toothpaste and NOT the hotel's.
For some mouthwash, it contains some fourm of alcohol which kills germs. One would think it might also kill STD. Sorry don't know for sure.
[QUOTE=Weelock]Not mouthwash but toothpaste. I have one girl used my toothpaste to wash her pussy I thought at the time was weird. It was my own large tube of toothpaste and NOT the hotel's.
For some mouthwash, it contains some fourm of alcohol which kills germs. One would think it might also kill STD.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your interesting anecdotal contributions, but any hard evidence or clinical studies?
Though hilarious, stories in the vein of "Well, sonny, I do recall that Jimmy Dang Dean's brother's uncle once..."
are of limited use if one wants to really learn about STD protection. For example, simply pouring diluted alcohol (mouthwash)
on the skin's surface does not effectively prevent most STDs, particularly viral infections. I'm hoping to find some
info that has hard data showing which specific STDs (if any) are affected by mouthwash, if at all.
Thanks again.
J
There is some info in the 'safe sex' forum on ISG.
This is part of one of the posts from that forum (I didnt know how to hotlink the post):
"Reports show that Listerine is just as effective, and perhaps more so, as iodine- why not wipe listerine on the skin?
A Canadian Defence study on destroying bacteria on diving equipment found Listerine was best:
"Virus: Exposure to Listerine for 30secs is antiviral against herpes simplex, type 1, herpes simplex 2 and influenza A. Completely inhibited HIV in 30 sec, and is able to kill Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureaus (MRSA) in 30 sec.
Bacteria: Listerine kills Staphylococcus aureaus completely after 30sec. Kills Staphylococcus mitis, Mycobacterium smegmatis and M Bovis in 20 min. Most of 54 bacterial strains die after 30 sec.
Fungi: kills Candida Albicans in 20 min."
I'll be making my virgin trip to ZH on February 5th and flying out on February 12th in two weeks.
Are any of you ZH veterans going to be around. Would really appreciate meeting up and getting a rundown of the place. Never mongered in China before, but I speak Mandarin a little (as much as an ABC can anyway).
I'll be in town with an American friend, hopefully that will help my situation out since I'm Chinese American and look like I'm in my early to mid 20s, hopefully my White friend, in his 50s, will help my situation out with meeting up with the ladies.
Read up on all the posts up to June 2006, but with time running out, and trying to put notes together, it's getting a little confusing. LOL.
Anyway thx in advance.
Donjuan0514
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]There is some info in the 'safe sex' forum on ISG.
This is part of one of the posts from that forum (I didnt know how to hotlink the post):
"Reports show that Listerine is just as effective, and perhaps more so, as iodine- why not wipe listerine on the skin?
A Canadian Defence study on destroying bacteria on diving equipment found Listerine was best:
"Virus: Exposure to Listerine for 30secs is antiviral against herpes simplex, type 1, herpes simplex 2 and influenza A. Completely inhibited HIV in 30 sec, and is able to kill Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureaus (MRSA) in 30 sec.
Bacteria: Listerine kills Staphylococcus aureaus completely after 30sec. Kills Staphylococcus mitis, Mycobacterium smegmatis and M Bovis in 20 min. Most of 54 bacterial strains die after 30 sec.
Fungi: kills Candida Albicans in 20 min."[/QUOTE]
Hey AP,
Damn, I'm trying to find some evidence to support this Listerine/STD link because I want it to be true,
but so far no conclusive evidence or any citation of specific studies about Listerine and STDs. I did
find these other (mostly useless) Listerine facts, though:
-named after Joseph Lister
-contains 21.6% alchohol
-studies have shown Listerine effective in killing common unsightly toenail fungus infections
-Listerine had to spend $2 million to correct packaging and ads touting it was as effective as flossing
-Listerine strips were found ineffective at killing bacteria and germs in the human mouth even though
in lab conditions it was 100% effective
Anyway, enough about Listerine. Let's not make the Zhuhai thread as ridiculous as some of the other
threads...
J
There's so much on the posts about the saunas and LHL. Just make sure you negotiate the prices and services to be expected beforehand with the SWs. Don't be shy and ask. I always ask if they will blow me until I come.
Most saunas will not rip you off but the girls make give you lesser service. Maybe skip the Anal Rimming.
Read the posts. That's as nice as I can say about your inquiry.
BTW, you're only a ten walk from LHL to the Macau border and a free casino bus trip to the Lisboa Casino areas where the Lisboa basement pageant of SW beauties can now be had for 800HK. Used to be 500HK.
But like my friend says, why go to Macau when you can have the same mainlanders in China for a 1/4 of the price.
But you should check out the fishbowl showroom in the Macau saunas like Darling. Just worth seeing so many girls in one showroom. But the sauna deals are best in ZH.
Enough said, there's so much more in past posts. Read more of them. Use LHL and sauna in your search to cut down the rest of the bs on the thread.
Bill
[QUOTE=Donjuan0514]I'll be making my virgin trip to ZH on February 5th and flying out on February 12th in two weeks.
Are any of you ZH veterans going to be around. Would really appreciate meeting up and getting a rundown of the place. Never mongered in China before, but I speak Mandarin a little (as much as an ABC can anyway).
I'll be in town with an American friend, hopefully that will help my situation out since I'm Chinese American and look like I'm in my early to mid 20s, hopefully my White friend, in his 50s, will help my situation out with meeting up with the ladies.
Read up on all the posts up to June 2006, but with time running out, and trying to put notes together, it's getting a little confusing. LOL.
Anyway thx in advance.
Donjuan0514[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]
Anyway, enough about Listerine. Let's not make the Zhuhai thread as ridiculous as some of the other
threads...
J[/QUOTE]
Facts of Listerine:
Listerine* Antiseptic Mouthwash
Product Description
LISTERINE can reduce plaque and gingivitis by up to 34% over brushing and flossing alone.
The only mouthwash to be recognized by the Canadian Dental Association to reduce gingivitis? that you can buy without a prescription.
Comes with a child resistant cap.
Directions for Use
Rinse full strength with 20 mL for 30 seconds twice a day to kill the germs that cause gingivitis, plaque, bad breath, and sore throats due to colds. Both Cool Mint and Fresh Burst LISTERINE are as effective as Original LISTERINE.
Note: Cold temperatures may cloud this product; its efficacy will not be affected.
Ingredients
Medicinal Ingredients: Eucalyptol 0.091% w/v, thymol 0.063% w/v, menthol 0.042% w/v.
Non-medicinal ingredients (alphabetically):
Original: Alcohol, benzoic acid, caramel, methyl salicylate, poloxamer, sodium benzoate, water.
Cool Mint: Alcohol, benzoic acid, FD&C Green No. 3, flavour, methyl salicylate, poloxamer, propanol, sodium benzoate, sodium saccharin, sorbitol, water.
Fresh Burst: Alcohol, benzoic acid, D&C Yellow No. 10, FD&C Green No. 3, flavour, methyl salicylate, poloxamer, propanol, sodium benzoate, sodium saccharin, sorbitol, water.
Readers can decide whether it is affective against STD or not. So let us get back to the Subject of "Mongering". Thanks.
AG
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Interesting that more than a few mongers have mentioned using mouthwash as some kind of protection/preventative measure against STDs.
Anyone can add something to this?[/QUOTE]
Hello,
Just wanted to add that if you are going to DATY on a questionable lady, the stuff to use is chlorhexidine gluconate. It will kill everything in the mouth, I guarantee. Dentists perscribe it to kill gingivitis so you need a perscription for it in most countries.
[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]Facts of Listerine:
Listerine* Antiseptic Mouthwash
Product Description
LISTERINE can reduce plaque and gingivitis by up to 34% over brushing and flossing alone.
The only mouthwash to be recognized by the Canadian Dental Association to reduce gingivitis? that you can buy without a prescription.
Comes with a child resistant cap.
Directions for Use
Rinse full strength with 20 mL for 30 seconds twice a day to kill the germs that cause gingivitis, plaque, bad breath, and sore throats due to colds. Both Cool Mint and Fresh Burst LISTERINE are as effective as Original LISTERINE.
Note: Cold temperatures may cloud this product; its efficacy will not be affected.
Ingredients
Medicinal Ingredients: Eucalyptol 0.091% w/v, thymol 0.063% w/v, menthol 0.042% w/v.
Non-medicinal ingredients (alphabetically):
Original: Alcohol, benzoic acid, caramel, methyl salicylate, poloxamer, sodium benzoate, water.
Cool Mint: Alcohol, benzoic acid, FD&C Green No. 3, flavour, methyl salicylate, poloxamer, propanol, sodium benzoate, sodium saccharin, sorbitol, water.
Fresh Burst: Alcohol, benzoic acid, D&C Yellow No. 10, FD&C Green No. 3, flavour, methyl salicylate, poloxamer, propanol, sodium benzoate, sodium saccharin, sorbitol, water.
Readers can decide whether it is affective against STD or not. So let us get back to the Subject of "Mongering". Thanks.
AG[/QUOTE]
AG,
Ha ha ha ha...whether you know it or not, you gave me the best laugh I've had in a long time...thanks for being a lamb!
J
I had a bit of time yesterday night and didn’t feel like going along LHL or calling up any regular gals plus it was that chilling cold where you just shiver if you stand still, so I headed down to my current regular/favorite sauna place, Da Ming Yuan. As I got out of the taxi at the front door, about 10 sauna girls dressed in their street clothes hurriedly streamed out….hmmm, shift change, eh? Then some more sauna girls streamed out, this time some just in their sauna uniforms with or without a jacket. Then more…and more…and more gals came rushing out like cockroaches, going every which way, dissipating like cigarette smoke. Damn, must be a raid. Well, better it happen now than in the middle of my session. I walked inside the DMY to take a look and there were several HK mongers slowly walking out the door, complaining in Cantonese to each other and on their mobile phones about “trouble” at DMY and they would need to head elsewhere for fun tonight. The weird thing is no police or security or any other sign of the authorities, just girls streaming out the building like a fire drill, which was pretty entertaining.
So, with DMY out, I decided to give the “two dragon-horse animals” sauna another chance after a long break and a lack of quality recently. Like a battered wife, it’s easy for me to keep giving second chances and I wasn’t disappointed… (I got the following short/long report from another ISG member on one of the European or Thai boards, I forgot, but if I remember, I’ll credit him)
SHORT REPORT:
Had #5, a cute, petite gal from Fujian. Gave a nice body wash, BBBJCIM, and SOP FS for 298 RMB total. Would recommend her and will try her again.
LONG REPORT:
Finally took the time to find out the name of the “two dragon-horse animals” sauna and it is Fu Hai Jiu Dian (福海酒店) and the sauna is on the 4th floor. Walked in and without question, the captain leads me up to the 5th floor rooms and lets me wait in a clean, spacious sauna room with two beds, TV, and large bathroom with a soapie bed. The room was at least 40-45 square meters and is slightly better than DMY’s quality but not as good as Chang An Good World, maybe considered a 2.5-star quality. Chatted with the male captain for a few minutes and he seemed like a nice guy as much as a slimy-sauna captain can be nice. He said he would recommend a good gal for me and 5 minutes later, a slim, petite gal showed up. She wasn’t a sex bomb, but cute and I decided to keep her.
She got the soapie bed ready while I watched some TV and chatted with her. A nice, demure gal and was open to talking about most things. Apparently, she had gotten to work at about 8pm (it was about 11:30pm at this point) and it was a slow night in general for the sauna and the captain promised to help her. She said she would give me good service, which is always good to hear from the gal’s mouth and not the captain’s. Her soapie was excellent with massage washing, body to body slide, and even a nice soapie HJ that she seemed eager for me to come, but for some reason I couldn’t so after about 10 minutes, she stopped.
We got to the bed and she got the tray of hot water, ice, tea, etc. to get ready for the oral services. She put some hot water in her mouth and just started sucking immediately, with no body kissing, etc. which was different, ha…she just kept sucking and sucking and after a few minutes, I assumed she would stop like most sauna gals, but she just kept sucking and sucking…it wasn’t a great BBBJ, but it wasn’t the worst either. I repositioned her into a 69 position so I could inspect her vagina as she kept sucking. Vagina looked nice, clean, and tight and I gave her a few minutes of light DATY which made her squirm and moan a bit. Then I repositioned her so I was sitting on the pillow and she continued her BBBJ. It must have been at least 15-20 minutes of non-stop BBBJ and finally I finished in her mouth and, the most surprising thing for me, she kind of kept my cock in her mouth until I finished. Then she spit into the garbage can and spent the next few minutes rinsing with some mouthwash. She came back to bed then asked me if I wanted to fuck now. Ha ha…what a gal. I had to wait a couple more minutes before I was “ready” so I chatted a bit with her and explored her body a bit. Heavenly natural soft/firm body that only exists on young girls…then it was a good FS session with missionary, sidescrew, and me finishing in doggie and she was very compliant the whole time. Overall, the feeling with this gal is almost like being in high school with a young girlfriend who’s having accommodating sex with you because she loves you and not necessarily because she loves sex…ha ha, it might be a turn on for some guys. And anyway, as I said, she’s very accommodating which isn’t always the case with working gals. I gave her a 50 RMB tip and she seemed so surprised as to look at the money and act mute then smiled and put it in her pocket. I paid 298 at the front counter and left a happy guy.
Also, walking around downtown Zhuhai afterward, it seems like the police are stepping up their patrols and I saw more paddy-wagons than usual patrolling LHL as well as the surrounding streets. There were fewer SWs on LHL than usual, but you could some and there were still a steady stream approaching guys. I think it was more a combination of the cold weather keeping customers away from the open-air cafes rather than just the police patrols, though. And the huge Tian Di Ren Jia disco on LHL has been closed down and a working gal told me it was to reduce the visibility of the rampant drug use that goes on there but the place will reopen after CNY. What the hell policy is that?? Anyway, enjoy and stay safe out there…
J
Hi Johnny,
Sounds like you are having a good old time in Zhuhai. I envy you!
If you can, please post a list of saunas, including address, number and quality of girls, pricing etc...
Can't wait to go back to Zhuhai.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]anyway, as I said, she’s very accommodating which isn’t always the case with working gals. I gave her a 50 RMB tip and she seemed so surprised as to look at the money and act mute then smiled and put it in her pocket. I paid 298 at the front counter and left a happy guy.
Also, walking around downtown Zhuhai afterward, it seems like the police are stepping up their patrols and I saw more paddy-wagons than usual patrolling LHL as well as the surrounding streets. There were fewer SWs on LHL than usual, but you could some and there were still a steady stream approaching guys. I think it was more a combination of the cold weather keeping customers away from the open-air cafes rather than just the police patrols, though. And the huge Tian Di Ren Jia disco on LHL has been closed down and
J[/QUOTE]
Hi Guys, This is my 1st ever non-poon post.
In China I learned "jui-dian' = hotel.
But before this I thought 'Fan-dian' is the correct Potunghua !??
Then, later I heard 'Lu-guan' is the correct word.
Can someone tell which is best used to say 'hotel' ?
Also, I know 'da jiu-dian' = 'grand hotel'.
Dar
[QUOTE=Dar425]In China I learned "jui-dian' = hotel.
But before this I thought 'Fan-dian' is the correct Potunghua !??
Then, later I heard 'Lu-guan' is the correct word.
Can someone tell which is best used to say 'hotel' ?
Also, I know 'da jiu-dian' = 'grand hotel'.[/QUOTE]For hotel: Jiu3 Dian4, Da4 Jiu3 Dian4 (not only "Grand Hotels call themselves in this way); Jiu3 = Alcohol
For restaurant: Fan4 Dian4; Fan4 = Meal
Dian4 = Shop/Store
LW
[QUOTE=Dar425]Hi Guys, This is my 1st ever non-poon post.
In China I learned "jui-dian' = hotel.
But before this I thought 'Fan-dian' is the correct Potunghua !??
Then, later I heard 'Lu-guan' is the correct word.
Can someone tell which is best used to say 'hotel' ?
Also, I know 'da jiu-dian' = 'grand hotel'.
Dar[/QUOTE]
This request belongs in the Words and Phrases thread. Luguan is used in the north and Jiudian is used in the south. Fandian is not used much as it literally means "food room".
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]OWL you are certainly not a newbie considering your membership status.
Surely you can do what I did and read the entire forum and compile your own list?!?
The best saunas are regularly reported on (incl. the information you request) and are household names on this forum.[/QUOTE]
One Wing Low,
There was a listing of about 15 Zhahai saunas around two years ago. It was taken ( transfered ) from another website by somebody. The website is call s ********. Sorry I forgot whom this person was. It had the names in Chinese and English, pricing for rooms, girls and recommendations. I tried looking for it but I can find it on ISG.
It seems for some reason the website's name is censored in ISG.
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[QUOTE=Weelock]One Wing Low,
There was a listing of about 15 Zhahai saunas around two years ago. It was taken ( transfered ) from another website by somebody. The website is call s ********. Sorry I forgot whom this person was. It had the names in Chinese and English, pricing for rooms, girls and recommendations. I tried looking for it but I can find it on ISG.
It seems for some reason the website's name is censored in ISG.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Weelock]One Wing Low,
There was a listing of about 15 Zhahai saunas around two years ago. It was taken ( transfered ) from another website by somebody. The website is call s ********. Sorry I forgot whom this person was. It had the names in Chinese and English, pricing for rooms, girls and recommendations. I tried looking for it but I can find it on ISG.
It seems for some reason the website's name is censored in ISG.[/QUOTE]
Weee,
Wasn't there another list of 19 Zhahai saunas around three years ago, too?
J
was getting late sunday night (yesterday) and i decided to test my luck and go back to fuhai suana and try sweetie #5 again. streets weren’t as crowded as i expected but it was somewhat cold and breezy plus there seemed to be more police than usual on the streets. not exactly a crackdown, but just increased pig patrols…onto the meat and potatoes...
**short report
went to fuhai sauna and did gal #5 again who gave even better service than the previous session. she’ll be leaving the sauna in 3-4 days, so sample the sweet folds of her feminine roast beef lips before it’s too late. discovered that okomoto came out with a new version of their 0.03 condoms called “0.03 rf” and the rf stands for “real fit.” basically, it means the condom’s tip is shaped like a real penis, ala a “mushroom head” shape instead of a long blunted cylinder like the majority of condoms. in back-to-back fuck sessions this weekend, i used the 0.03 and 0.03rf condoms and i think they are not much different, though the 0.03rf condoms somehow feel thinner than the original 0.03; it should be renamed 0.028rf or something. and a 10-pack of 0.03rf costs $98hkd vs. $78hkd for the 0.03. then a helpful taxi driver brought me to some remote area in xiangzhou district (not the usual gongbei district where lhl and most of the famous saunas are). quality was pretty damn good, comparable to lhl, with price from 100-150 rmb. it’s pretty far from gongbei, though so taxi fare to go there plus taxi fare to return plus taxi fare for the gal would cancel any savings vs. getting a lhl gal.
*****long report
it was getting near 11:30pm on sunday night and i got a hankerin’ for some young tight pussy…decided to head to fuhui sauna and plow sweetie #5 again. earlier in the weekend, i had picked up the newest condoms from okomoto and was eager to try them out, too. these new condoms are named “0.03 rf” with the rf standing for “real fit.” the condoms come in a gold-metallic colored box (as opposed to the original’s silver-metallic box) and when unrolled, is shaped like a natural penis, with a “mushroom head” at the tip for a better fit, allegedly. they also have a roomier fit and, oddly enough, seem even thinner than the originals. i had the opportunity to try out the regular 0.03 condoms just earlier in the day, so, it would be a great condom combat showdown.
must not have been too busy at the fuhai because i was shown a sauna room on the 4th floor this time, and the rooms are about 40-50% smaller than the rooms on the 5th floor. same pricing structure, though, with 298 rmb inclusive fee covering room and gal. sweetie #5 (forgot her name) peeked through the door and seemed happy to see me again. i just love that she has kind of a goofy unawareness of her sexiness, almost like cameron diaz in “there’s something about mary”. anyway, her long slim legs and tight bubble ass are definitely her best assets and her unusually short dress basically gives clear access to anyone with two eyes. we show and chat a bit and find out that things are not going to well for her. the electricity was shut off from 3pm -9:30pm in the entire hotel, robbing her lots of business. on top of that, she lives about 30 minutes from the sauna, so after coming to work for about an hour at 7pm, she went home, then was called back at about 9:45pm. and there were no customers for her until me. and she had decided to go back to fujian later this week because “zhuhai isn’t very fun”, which loosely translated means “i have fucking guys in saunas” and/or “i am not making enough money.” so, if you’re going to be zhuhai in the next few days, enjoy this cutie and treat her well.
like the last visit, we had a nice mutual shower but this time skipped the body wash routine. after drying off, we conversed for a few minutes about generalities before she suddenly started sucking my cock. it was funny, like:
“so, do you like football?”
“not really, but most guys who come here like to watch so i know a little bit about football.”
“manchester united is doing surprisingly well---“
“[no more talking, mouth sucking my cock]”
again, her service isn’t fantastic, it’s just rare to have this weird feeling like the first girlfriend who you have sex with (for me anyway). she doesn’t use any of the teas, milk, ice, etc. that is provided for the oral services. she just simply sucks and sucks and sucks, then sucks more, basically until you cim or you tell her to stop. i watched about 10 minutes of the soccer match while enjoying this feeling, knowing she wasn’t going to stop. didn’t want to cim so i stopped her and gave her some body kissing and light daty which she liked. when i took out the 0.03rf, her first reaction was to say, “wow, that’s thin. is it safe?” good fucking varying between slow grinding and piston pumping with a warm, intimate missionary embrace to finish. very nice and one of the reasons i could repeat with her every week on a regular basis. after a mutual shower, we rested on the bed and i fell asleep in her arms. overall opinion on the 0.03rf condoms is that they are thinner, bigger, and shaped better than the original 0.03, but the increased cost and negligible difference in performance makes 0.03 the clear winner.
i woke up, still in her arms, after about 10 minutes to see her watching the football on tv. she noticed i woke up and asked if i wanted any more. i asked her to give me another bbbj and she began with no hesitation. i switched to a face-straddling position and she was lightly pulling forward on my buttocks to face fuck her, which was great. after several minutes, i sat on the edge of the bed and she knelt down and continued with the bbbj. after about 5-6 minutes, i felt great and relaxed, but i was pretty sure i wouldn’t be able to come again, especially after too much fucking during the weekend, and earlier in the day, too. i had her stop and explained i was done and why. she seemed relieved to hear it wasn’t due to her bad service.
dressed and left after paying 298 at the counter. they are sloooooow to give you the 2 rmb change, and i jokingly made fun of the two cute front desk girls saying each “smart egg” deserved a 1 rmb tip. outside, i took a taxi home and after confirming i had just been in the fuhai sauna, he began discussing the general sauna situation in zhuhai with me. he says there are about 200 saunas in zh which sounds impossibly high. he also told me about a highly recommend sauna called the “shanghai- something” i forget. since he said the price was 998 all inclusive (which again sounds impossibly high) i don’t think i will try this one out anytime soon. then he convinced me to visit a cluster of bbss he promised were “excellent; the choice of macau and hk mongers”. after about 16rmb on top of my usual fare home, (i live about a 14 rmb taxi ride away from the border crossing in macau) we finally arrived at a short dead-end street with 5 bbss. i was skeptical at first and was about to cuss out the driver before seeing that the first few gals were pretty good looking. hmm…and a few were outside playing badminton or sitting and chatting. not as gloomy and zombie-like as many bbss i’ve seen. i got out, took a quick look around and confirmed that 150 or lower was the pricing. when i walked off, a few of the mamasans offered 130. if i didn’t just have a sauna experience, i’d definitely have picked a gal. the problem with this place is i’m not entirely sure how to get there. i’ll have to try to retract the taxi ride later this week. also, i’ve got the taxi guy’s number.
so, all in all, a good night where three birds where killed with 1 stone:
1. confirm that sweetie #5 would give good service on a repeat visit
2. test the new 0.03rf condoms
3. discovered new area for gals in zh
stay safe out there.
j
ps. on some other notes, i was shopping in zhuhai and noticed that there are many "sony" usb thumbdrives of up to 16 gb available now. the 16gb models were 190 rmb and the 8 gb models were 90 rmb, both with little/no bargaining. luckily, i had my laptop with me and tested them out. they seem to have the physical storage size of 8 or 16 gb, but damn, the transfer speeds are slow as shit. i tried transferring a 700 mb movie file to the 8 gb drive and the transfer window showed 14 minutes as the expected time....anyway, i guess it'll do as a cheap-ass form of mass storage for some. and i'm not saying everyone can get this price, but chiagra could/should be 8 rmb per bottle or less.
Hi Johnny,
You know a lot of girls in Zhuhai.
Please get pics and share with your bros.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Was getting late Sunday night (yesterday) and I decided to test my luck and go back to Fuhai Suana and try sweetie #5 again. Streets weren’t as crowded as I expected but it was somewhat cold and breezy plus there seemed to be more police than usual on the streets. Not exactly a crackdown, but just increased pig patrols…onto the meat and potatoes...
J[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Hi Johnny,
You know a lot of girls in Zhuhai.
Please get pics and share with your bros.[/QUOTE]
I love to share pics but my phone's camera is woefully pathetic and my digital camera is dearly departed...I'd be happy to accept donations for a new camera! The JK-Zhuhai Camera fund is open and ready for donations! PM me for details...
J
*SHORT REPORT
Found a new cluster of BBS in an outlying district from Gongbei that is a good alternative (for me) to LHL but not totally sure about specific directions yet. SOP service, affordable prices, and most importantly, smokin' hot gals available. And Year 2000 Hotel sauna is overpriced and disappointing.
***LONG REPORT
Delivering a report about a new area (to me) in Zhuhai. Chatted up a young, slimy taxi driver about places for gals, basically the best kind of bastard to find out this kind of info from. He recommended all kinds of places new and familiar to me but mostly saunas. I asked him about BBSs and he started talking about some new places I’ve never heard of and pretty far from Gongbei but not too far from my apartment. Ended up going to this place that I’m still not sure of the exact location, but it is in the Xin Xiangzhou district. First landmark is the Vanguard supermarket. If you get to that, look for the Agricultural Bank down the block. The BBSs are around the end of the block where the bank is. That’s as specific as I can get since I haven’t gone back yet on my own. I’ll probably have better directions in a future report.
Now for the gals…they are OK, in my opinion about a notch below the average BBS girl from CP. For me, the average CP girl is about a 6.5 with the range from 3-8. At this Zhuhai BBS cluster, I rate the average gal a 5 with the range from 2-8. There are 5 different shops and the feeling is very similar to the dearly departed Ramada BBS in Guangzhou. Each shop had anywhere from 5-10 girls and a lot of them looked at Santa’s “laowai-ness” with curiosity, revulsion, fear, or a combination. Prices should be from 120-150 RMB I’m pretty sure, but with Santa in tow and the slimy taxi driver having hush-hush discussions with the mama/papasans, I was getting quotes from 200 ST – 800 LT, basically ridiculous.
The last shop on this BBS row had 5 girls and as soon as I saw them, I was doing back flips in my mind. I don’t think Santa really noticed, but I was more than turned on by every one of the gals in this particular BBS, which never happens. (That’s why I spent so much time talking about BS and just kind of stalling at this shop, Santa, ha ha…). So, this shop is the only one with a papas an, so I’ll refer to it as Papa’s BBS. Anyway, Santa didn’t want to pick anything up, even though one of the cutest gal started practicing her limited English trying to entice him. We left to go get some dinner and then he went for a few beers at the LHL umbrellas and I went home and got take out from this shop.
Called up the papasan and easily negotiated 150 RMB + taxi fee for delivery of the gal to my apartment. My tall cutie was waiting and took her to my place for shower and sex. The service was only OK, with no BJ and not very warm or sensual sex (though she was bubbly and friendly when conversing with me). But her body was so damn smokin’ hot it’s one of those rare situations where the visual delight makes the SOP sex worth it. I mean she was designed in the ISG lab of wet dreams: 19 years old, Hunan honey, 5’6, large magnificent 34 C or D breasts, long firm legs, springy bubble but, soft smooth white skin, innocent face with a touch of naughtiness…I mean, I was just looking at her and touching her for at least 15 minutes before she asked me if something was wrong, ha ha…
Anyway, I plan to go back and fuck every one of papa’s girls and I will be getting a camera sometime soon, so pics, I promise. Can you tell I’m excited, finally???
J
PS. I also went with Santa earlier in the night to the Year 2000 Hotel Sauna for a look. The facilities are pretty new and about the same or better than the upscale digs at the Chang An Good World sauna. The weird thing is that the price is 268 RMB for the VIP room + 300 RMB for the girl, so at 568 RMB, it’s the same price as the saunas in CP. The girl line up was nothing special, about the same as a budget sauna and there was maybe one I would have done, but with that price, I was expecting significantly higher quality vs. the 260-300 RMB saunas. There was an interesting “500 RMB model” worker who ended up just being a tall gal, maybe 5’10-5’11. She still wasn’t outstanding looking, just a solid 7 to me. There was also some meeting for a HK company that night, so it was pretty busy and that may have lead to a lack of quality gals but the dregs remaining were totally overpriced.
Johnny and I visited those five new shops he discovered and there were some great looking girls there, not many, but enough. There were also some dogs.
The girl I wanted was in a shop owned by a young pimp. For some reason, I don't mind handing money to a mama, but I hate giving money to male pimps. I think selling pussy should be womens work. So I sadly declined.
Went back to Lian Hua Lu and saw a police van and very few working girls. But one plain clothed girl approached me while I was drinking beer. A cutie from Sichuan. I love Sichuan girls! When I got her to my room I was amazed to see I had another white tiger. I told Johnny about her and he of course had done her before, knew her name and age, etc. Hardly a girl in this town he hasn't fucked already! That's why we call him the King of Zhuhai.
Oh, yeah, Santa reminded me...
For any current or future Zhuhai visitors, there seems to be a medium-intensity crackdown right now, so many KTVs and discos are closed and the LHL streetwalkers have been reduced to 5-10% of normal. There isn't a very heavy physical police presence, but the LE must have let it be known ahead of time to keep things quiet, so the pimps and girls are basically complying. About half the regular LHL gals I know have gone back to their hometown already but there are still many around because CNY is a good time for business, too. Let me know if any of you out there want numbers.
Yesterday was the first time I've ever walked down LHL and not seen double-digit SWs. Maybe 3-4 at the most. This was about 10:30pm so should have been nearing primetime (about 11:00pm - 2:00 am I consider primetime). Santa was on LHL during primetime and things didn't get much better. Even the BBSs near LHL are pretty low on numbers now.
The saunas are still the cheapest, safest option for a sure thing and are always available.
So, stay safe if you're in/coming to ZH...
J
Damn. Just when I am about to go to CHina too.
I dont like Saunas too much. I prefer to pick the meat on the streets.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Oh, yeah, Santa reminded me...
For any current or future Zhuhai visitors, there seems to be a medium-intensity crackdown right now, so many KTVs and discos are closed and the LHL streetwalkers have been reduced to 5-10% of normal. There isn't a very
So, stay safe if you're in/coming to ZH...
J[/QUOTE]
There are still a few girls available on Lian Hua Lu. They don't walk along the middle of the road as before, they walk along the sidewalk near the Chang An Hotel. Best time is after midnight. They run away when they see the police.
This crackdown business is going to ruin this country. :(
Went to the JIn Yu Sauna and the service was terrible. She was mostly interested in watching TV and having a nap. I had to turn the TV off 4 times. I could have gotten better service from a streetwalker.
I had a girl in this sauna three months ago and the service was great, so my expectations were high.
These girls have to do this shit all day, everyday. Easy to see how they become totally bored with this fucking job and avoid giving service when they can.
My sentiments exactly!
[QUOTE=Santa]The girl I wanted was in a shop owned by a young pimp. For some reason, I don't mind handing money to a mama, but I hate giving money to male pimps. I think selling pussy should be womens work. So I sadly declined.
[/QUOTE]
To my China friends and others that may be in the know. I love Zhuhai for many reasons although at times I wish it wouldn't be that boring. I hope to be there around the Chinese New Year. What is happening with the Sauna scene.
Has anybody had a recent experience at the Harbor View Hotel or the main buisness hotel down the street from the border crossing. I can't remeber the name for the moment, but if you cross the border from and go straight into Zhuihai walking a few blocks approximately six, you come to a main intersection where if you turn right, you end up at the bar street and the water. At that intersection is a cicular hotel, that's the one that I am referring to.
Of all my experiences in China, from that hotel in the Sauna, I met a lovely bauty who at the time was 19. I invited her to dinner with me and a friend and his fiance and that led to a wonderful encounter.
Cheers!
Johnny and the regulars at the BBS should train the girls so they willingly let us take some pics every time.
Loso, a laowai, was able to take pictures of every girl he boinked, so this task is possible.
[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]*SHORT REPORT
Anyway, I plan to go back and fuck every one of papa’s girls and I will be getting a camera sometime soon, so pics, I promise. Can you tell I’m excited, finally???
Jthat night, so it was pretty busy and that may have lead to a lack of quality gals but the dregs remaining were totally overpriced.[/QUOTE]
Some have very beautiful bodies but would not let me take their pics naked, with or without face. What a waste.
Perhaps the bros, who can speak good Chinese, can start convincing the girls that we would do them no harms with the pics of their beautiful bods.
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]I take a few pics of every girl I have.
They never refuse me (although sometimes need a bit of convincing).
The difficulty is getting them to agree to naked pics (esp. with their face included).
The LHL girls are particularly resistant to this (and I can understand why, as most only go for ST then never see the guy again).
My best success has been with ZH Sauna girls, some are even happy to let you take pics during the act.
I realise some guys don't care about this, but occassionally you meet a girl with a body to die for.
My memory seems to get worse the older I get, so I do the best I can to shoot a bit of skin ;)[/QUOTE]
I think these LHL girls are in the right place at the right time, therefore financial winners. I see them going and returning very quickly and, as far as I can tell, they get to keep the full 200.
They probably have lots of customers wanting pictures and they are not entertained by the idea. They are only interested in getting back to the street as quickly as possible.
Last night, at 3.00 am, I saw a whole bunch of girls on the corner near ChangAn Hotel. I think the reason I didn't see so many before was not because of the police, it was because the girls were already taken. Not enough girls to go around, and others have gone home for the holidays.There are lots of lonely guys drinking beer at the umbrella stands, mostly taiwanese.
I just came in from walking on LHL, 7:00 pm on a sunday. The street was fairly crowded but I only saw one working girl and I have already done her. I called a girl I met the night before and she came to my room. Slim pretty body and beautiful tits, but her service was terrible and she had a really bad attitude. It couldn't get any worse than this. Xiao Min, a small gal from Hunan.
This is a girl who hates her job and her customers.
[QUOTE=Santa]I think these LHL girls are in the right place at the right time, therefore financial winners. I see them going and returning very quickly and, as far as I can tell, they get to keep the full 200.
[/QUOTE]
The LHL girls do have mamasans, so I very much doubt that the whole 200RMB goes to them.
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]The LHL girls do have mamasans, so I very much doubt that the whole 200RMB goes to them.
Loso[/QUOTE]
According to girls that I have asked, the split is generally 100 for each. The mamasans also generally charge the girls for their keep, food, clothes and lodging. They also may be paying back the loan made to their families back in their hometown. So generally the girls do not get much of the money. Therefore, they are very happy with a tip of 10 or 20, which may be the only actual cash they have to spend.
These girls are all streetwalkers and I have only seen one with a mama. They also seem to be having a fast turnover rate. Only standing around for ten minutes waiting for a trick, she goes with him and returns in only 30 or 40 minutes.
Right now I think there are fewer girls and more punters, so it's a sellers market.
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Some have very beautiful bodies but would not let me take their pics naked, with or without face. What a waste.
Perhaps the bros, who can speak good Chinese, can start convincing the girls that we would do them no harms with the pics of their beautiful bods.[/QUOTE]I think its pretty hard to convince them, most of them known they may be posted on the net, so most are scared to expose their face even their body.
[QUOTE=Santa]There are still a few girls available on Lian Hua Lu. They don't walk along the middle of the road as before, they walk along the sidewalk near the Chang An Hotel. Best time is after midnight. They run away when they see the police.
This crackdown business is going to ruin this country. :([/QUOTE]Last time when at Zhu hai, while we are negotiating with a LHL girl, the police drove by, all she did was just acted naturally and holded my hand. The police will not give a hard time since they think your girl/boy friends.
Noticed a lot more girls on LHL tonight, monday night, mostly around the McDonalds icecream shop. And a lot less guys. I guess the HK and Macau guys had to go home.
Just when I was about to write Zhuhai off as a waste of time, I meet Xiao Lian. Very pretty 19 year old from Hunan. On the way to the hotel a mama caught up with us and asked her the price.
Lovely body and good service. Friendly and smiling. During the service she tried to get me to go up on the price by 100rmb, but I calmly declined. I think this a common trick in this town. Start giving a really good body lick and blowjob, and then ask for extra money. If he declines, then continue the blowjob for only a minute or two. If he agrees to pay extra, then give him extra. Extortion!
These girls know how to work it.
Xiao Lian. 13824158222. 200rmb
Congrats to all ISG members who helped the ZH board reach 1000 posts.
An honourable mention goes to the 'King of Zhuhai' [i]Mr. Johnnykon666[/i] who has trailblazed so much of the action where others once feared to tread.
You have provided so much detail on Zhuhai that it can now be simply regarded as the hotpot of sun, sea and sex.
And yes its true Santa, if you give LHL girls an inch, they will take a mile!
Xin Nian Kuai Le!
At least not on LHL.
Don't think the police don't recognize a regular hooker on the street and you holding her hand will take their attention away. You may have seen this tout for the first time, but the police have seen her hundred times on LHL. Do you really think that the police think you're her boyfriend?
Perhaps, they may not want the hassle of dealing with a foriegner who is her customer or just didn't want to make arrest right then and there.
When the police does show up, the girls will most likely tell the truth to the police about the situation.
I would just walk away when the police are nearby and not speak with a tout.
Bill
[QUOTE=Bossberry]Last time when at Zhu hai, while we are negotiating with a LHL girl, the police drove by, all she did was just acted naturally and holded my hand. The police will not give a hard time since they think your girl/boy friends.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone ever spend time in Zhuhai during Chinese New Year. Is it all quiet or business as usual at LHL?
[QUOTE=Bossberry]Last time when at Zhu hai, while we are negotiating with a LHL girl, the police drove by, all she did was just acted naturally and holded my hand. The police will not give a hard time since they think your girl/boy friends.[/QUOTE]
In the middle of LHL next to the green umbrella cafes, I noticed there are at least one "black security camera" above. I believe there are others. Therefore, I would assume the local security or police would know who is working the streets. From the cameras, the security or police would notice a girl talking and going from one guy to another. In general, they would know who is a "regular" SW on LHL. Your are correct, Bossberry, they most likely leave a boy/girl alone but it is impossible to say she is your girlfriend to the police because all the questions going to be asked and then the cameras.
When I was there, the girls would run in the middle of talking to a guy if a hint of police was coming. It really depends on the girl if she wants to run or not. I have seen the police van stop on LHL and chase down a few girls.
By the cafes, usually some run and some don't. A few sat right next to me when police was near. One time one took my drink and starting drinking from it. I think it was because we seen each other a few times. I then gave her a WTF look.
Weelock
guys they fake in the control panel, admin tools, computer managment , disk managment: look at the sony drives and you will see 8 gig allocated 120 gig unallocated. the memory is only 128mb but they hacked the usb interface to tell the computer it is more. if it is a real good deal on electronics .... it is fake.
ps. on some other notes, i was shopping in zhuhai and noticed that there are many "sony" usb thumbdrives of up to 16 gb available now. the 16gb models were 190 rmb and the 8 gb models were 90 rmb, both with little/no bargaining. luckily, i had my laptop with me and tested them out. they seem to have the physical storage size of 8 or 16 gb, but damn, the transfer speeds are slow as shit. i tried transferring a 700 mb movie file to the 8 gb drive and the transfer window showed 14 minutes as the expected time....anyway, i guess it'll do as a cheap-ass form of mass storage for some. and i'm not saying everyone can get this price, but chiagra could/should be 8 rmb per bottle or less.[/quote]
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hi angrysnake,
it appears that you inadverently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. usually i can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but i don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.
the quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look for them in the text. anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". it's that simple.
in addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in the forum.
thanks,
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