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GDLMAN Thanks for the info about Guadalajara. IMAC is one of the schools I am looking at. Also University of Guadalajara, C.E.P.E., this is the launguage school part. About the same cost.
When are you going to GDL again? I'll buy you a beer.
Falcon
hey falcon: no longer gdlman. I will not be goig back to guadalajara for a while. At least that's what I think. I am 24, droped out of college at 19, lost a grip of money in the 2.5 years i lived in mexico. plus another grip of money before i moved down there "livin large" here in the US. I am triying to reach the 100,000 USD mark by the age of 28, so I can go back and live 4ever between guadalajara and PV. I just love it down there.
with that type of money i can live very comfortable for the rest of my life if, and only if, it is well invested. I know a few individuals who live in guadalajara with $ they earned here in the US... young and full of energy to enjoy the beauties of life....good luck with the language schools. Guadalajara can be very enjoyable knowing your way around....
Falcon,
I studied Spanish for 1 week at IMAC in Guadalajara back in Feb.
I enjoyed the school. A HUGE number of local english students and only a few Spanish students. Lots of young girls, age 15-22 (?) at this school. They were too young for me, but if you are 25 or less you could easily meet a local girl there. I met (dated) one of the teachers! Each day there is a conversation exchange class in the late afternoon. These sessions are a great way to meet the locals. Also, Valentinos Estetica is only 3 or 4 blocks away, so after class I would take an afternoon siesta there. $35 for a sauna, massage and FS. A good deal. -P
Montes
Speaking of living in Mexico, what if you had an Internet business in the US doing $100,000 per year could you live pretty good in Guad?
Falcon
Prokofiev
Where did you stay while in Guad going to school?
Falcon
Falcon,
I stayed at the Hotel Frances which is very famous and near the Cathedral. An incredible old building, it is one of the oldest hotels in Mexico. And the prices are good - $64 a day for a suite with a huge bathroom. But ... the noise was excessive and for that reason I would not stay there again. Music in the lobby till 10 or 11pm and then a disco until 2 am! Plus street noise. But you can take a chica to your room without a problem. I heard that staying with a family - from the IMAC school -is good and an interesting way to learn the language. But it is hit and miss and you cannot bring chicas home to someone's house! Also I would not waste my time at the various strip clubs. The esteticas are easily the best and cheapest way to get laid in this city. Check the yellow pages and the Old Forum for ideas. -P
[QUOTE]Originally posted by falcon127
Speaking of living in Mexico, what if you had an Internet business in the US doing $100,000 per year could you live pretty good in Guad?
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Are you kidding? You could live like a fucking king! I have friends here in Mexico who have rough but livable housing, indoor plumbing, maid once a week, cable TV, etc... all on $US 50 a week! It has got to be more difficult for gringos like us who will drop $30 on a massage, but living here on the cheap can be done!
Falcon, I don't think so.
Speaking of living in Mexico, what if you had an Internet business in the US doing $100,000 per year could you live pretty good in Guad?
Falcon:
With that type of money, you can own guadalajara. Well, for about an hour or so, because very soon, and very likely, chances are you would be kidnapped, and held for ramson. And very likely even if your ramson was paid, you would cease to exist.
When I lived in GDL, it was not out of the ordinary to hear of "gringos" being robbed and at times murdered...even for a wrist watch... my intentions are not to scare you, just the reality of a 3rd world country... if you go down there, do not try to impress any body with money. Not a good idea, specially if they know or it's obious that you reside in the US. Keep a low profile, I myself being mexican, having being raised in the US, but in constant communication with friends and family, and knowing how the show goes in mexico got robbed of 5000 USD.... And I am no wimp or idiot I I know my way around...I got family, friends, a house, but people need money, and at times they will do anything to get it... Some of the girls at the massage parlors are students, but there's very little funds to pay for school in mexico. A girl can work as a secretary and have to deal with long hours of work, sexual harrasment and all types of bullshit for 200 USD a month, or she can scew for a living and make 200 USD a day... Most of the girls actually do have goals, and dreams, few are in it for the love of it, most are in it for the need of it (money). Please even if they are SEX WORKERS, be a getleman and treat the ladies with respect....I love women, but I love mexican woman above all....
prokofiev:
chances are I dated the same teacher you did. I was asked to leave IMAC because during the time I worked there my supervisor had a problem with me being friedly, courteus and simply too talkative.... My time there was very memorable, I was able to develop a very close relationship with my co-workers and my students, and I mean very close. It might have been unprofesional, but I was not in it for the profesion, I was there to meet new friends...I dont know if your opinion or your experience is the same as mine, but I feel that the people overall are friendly and willing to make new friends....their personality is easy going and the envirorment is not as intense, or the people as upthight as it may be in the US...I could be wrong, but thats just the experience I lived...
Hi Montes,
"I was asked to leave IMAC because during the time I worked there my supervisor had a problem with me being friendly, courteus and simply too talkative.... " I think what you probably mean is you spent the whole day chasing tail and trying to get laid! ...But you are absolutely correct that people in Mexico are friendlier and more easy-going than in the U.S. On the surface, Mexican society appears a bit more formal, more polite and more structured. But just below the surface, people are very warm, friendly, generous and willing to let you into their lives at a level that is rare in the US. Great hospitality! It seems to me that as an American, I have to prove my intentions are sincere and then ...watch out! Some of the warmest and sweetest women in the world ...
The IMAC school was very enjoyable with several hundred cute chicas learning English. But most are very young, 16-20 or younger. I need a girlfriend in the 28-40 range and hence the staff was more appealing. Language schools are a great way to meet women, whether in Mexico or the US.
As for crime in Mexico, I haven't found any and I feel MUCH safer in Guadalajara than here in the US. Of couse bad things can happen everywhere and I don't want to imply that Guadalajara is completely safe. I'm sure it isn't. But overall, most Americans have an irrational fear of Mexican crime that has no basis.
-P
Montes, Prokofiev, others
Thanks for all the info.
My point is I am trying to get educated on how far US currency will go in Mexico, I have only been to boarder towns. I need Montes to meet me in GDL and give me a tour. :)
Well here are some web sites on Mexico/Guadalajara that may interest some.
Air Fare
[url]http://www.flycheapol.com/[/url]
Education
University of Guadalajara [url]http://www.udg.mx/[/url]
Monterray Tech [url]http://www.tecdemonterrey.edu.mx/[/url]
Language Schools
U of G [url]http://www.cepe.udg.mx/[/url]
IMAC [url]http://www.spanish-school.com.mx/[/url]
Spanish Language School [url]http://www.spanishlanguageinstitute.com/[/url]
TEFL [url]http://www.teflcertificatecourses.com/[/url]
Guadalajara Resources
[url]http://www.ciudadfutura.net/[/url]
[url]http://www.guadalajarareporter.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.mexconnect.com/[/url]
Real Estate
[url]http://www.ajijicdevs.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.mexconnect.com/amex/rmxa/index.html[/url]
Take Care
Falcon
To: Falcon,Prokofiev, Montes, and Steve,
My 1st post! Will be going back to GDL in about 3 months. Was there for 1 nite, almost 3 yrs. ago. Went to Lipstick-girls were between 4-6 scale until about 11pm when they all turned into 7-9s. unfortunately i was told from the 1st chic that i had to tip the bouncer $5 for each $7 lap dance. I got pissed and made a stink, as i was probably bigger than the bouncer. Cooler heads prevailed. I proceeded to sample 3 more 8s and 2- 9's. One of the 9's (Jacqueline)had me meet her at 5am, which i did. During the lap dances at the club, she was jamming her toungue down my throat and told me to meet her at 5am at lipsticks, she would come to my hotel and give me FS and sleep with me for $50 plus taxi fare. I really thought she liked me. I arrived at 5am, and then had to wait an additional hour in the taxi before she came out. She then came back to my hotel. don't remember the name. I had 1 condom, which she broke while trying to apply. I had none left. She pleaded for me not to have IC with her, but i did get BBJ. Unfortunately, i passed out and when i woke up the next day she was gone with a lot more than than the $45 we had agreed on. At least she left me with my wallet, albeit no cash.
Gpiper!
You broke every rule in the book! Fighting with the local bouncers? Only 1 condom? Passed out drunk with a girl in your room at 6am with your wallet out? Ouch!! This time think with the BIG head, for your own sake. Lipstick is a bit of a rip-off in my book. You could do the same thing in any big US city strip club. And you will find the prices are quite a bit more now than you quote from 3 years ago. Try the esteticas and get laid at 8 pm instead of 6 am and at 25% of the cost.
prokofiev,
thanks for the advice. i did try the same thing up here in us at tootsies cabaret the other day. dropped $250 on lap dances and drinks for a beautiful dominican girl who kept stuffing her pussy in front of my face in the private both and kept telling me how she would love to have sex with me and sleep with me at my place if i would come back at 4 am to pick her up, buy her breakfast and then drive her back later in the morning. of course i showed up, waited another hour for her to tell me that she forgot she had school in the morning. i was furious at the *****, and it took 2 huge, juiced up bouncers to persuade me to leave. i went home dry, sober, frustrated, and another $250 in the hole! i obviously haven't learned my lesson here....anyway, i'm gearing up for a big return to mexico soon. don't know if my stay will be for a few weeks or for upwards of a year. last down there in 99 when i was working and living in aguascalientes as an english tutor. chicks were super friendly and approachable. i had 3 steady girlfriends the whole time there, unlike the states where i had barely bagged a date the previous few months. the girls were quite religious, but not when it came to putting out. unfortunately ags. was a boring ass town with nothing to do, and i returned to us after a few months. anyway, i'm thinking of teaching in mexico again, possibly gdl. i'm getting a tefl certificate this summer, and will be wrapping up my masters degree in exercise and sport science here in florida in august. are there mostly 16-20 yr,olds at imac? are the majority **** or at least legal age? are they very friendly and sociable? i prefer my ladies between 18-25, but do not know the age laws down there. do you know if they're looking for teachers and pay well for someone with my qualifications? if i can't nail a good paying job up here right after graduation, i may lengthen my 'vacation' down there.
gpiper:
Imac is an ok place to work. The pay really isnt good, but it just depends on how much you depend on your money. I worked there for a while until I was asked to leave the school because 90 percent of the time I was chasing tail...The girls are young, you will find few over 25. The administrators will be nice to you in the beggining, they will make you feel as YOU are their most valuable asset, but soon they will start fucking you over... Pay starts at 30 pesos an hour, about 2.50 USD, you will not get 8 hours of pay, but you will be requiered to be there all day, from about 8am to 9pm, with a few hours of rest in the afternoon...I am 24 now, I was 22-23 while working there, I did have a lot of girls on my back, from 18 to 23... I am hispanic, so that helped me alot, few girls are fond of older american males, at least from what i saw...but then again, many girls are looking for a way to reach the "American Dream" I did meet an american teacher while working at Imac, he was dating a 17 year old girl, which is a big NO NO... Girls must be over 18, thats the age of consent as well as the age in which they are consider adults. This girl got sprung on him, and he couldnt find a way to tell her, he basically got what he wanted from her, I dont know what happened at the end because soon I was fired as well, again, the administration keeps a very close eye on you. If they find out, or have any reason to think you are chasing ass, they will toss you out. Any one can teach at IMAC, regardless of credentials ...give it a shot, personally I dont think you'll like it. very demanding, very time consuming, alot of overtime hours, for very little pay... if you do get in, let me know...Word of advice, be careful with Cesar Vallejo, and Mrs. Ballesteros, dont ever let them see you talk to a girl....good luck
Montes,
thanks for the info! i think i'll pass on IMAC. Pay sounds lousy, as well as hours. Plus, i don't want anyone looking over my back when i'm trying to line up legal age poo-tang!..Anyway, if you hear of any other schools hiring anywhere in Mexico, let me know. By ther way, i had a friend who taught ESL in 99 at a school in AGS. It was grades k-8. He was at the school 5.5 hrs. a day, and only had to teach 4hrs. for a total of 20hrs., mon.-fri. He made 6500 pesos a month and made $5Us pr. hr. after school, tutoring 2 hrs. at the kids homes. He had no college dgree or tefl cert. He said they (the school), were real nice to him at first also. But the lady principal turned out to be a 2 faced ***** and screwed him over 3 months later; among other things, they wouldn't fix his apt. problems they had promised to take care of. He split soon after...As far as meeting women if i teach down in mexico, I don't anticipate many problems. Though i'm caucasian and a little older , my spanish is descent, and many girls there have said i look puerto rican, and can pass for 26...anyway, are you thinking of teacing in Mexico again??..As far as your earlier caption about safety in GDL. I was surprised to hear that. I was only there 1 nite in '99, but can honestly say that during my few months in AGS., i never felt more safe. It was common to see young school-girls walking home or to a friends home in town alone at nite by themselves at 1am, with no fear in the world. Me not being shy, I actually met a few this way! They were approachable at all times.
Gpiper: good for you that you can pass as someone whose 26 years old. Not many people have the benefit of looking young for ever. Aguas Calientes is a fairly safe city. So I am not surprised that people can walk around and feel safe. Dont get too comfortable in big cities. Guadalajara is not as safe as you may think...Mexico city is even worse. Just because you dont see, or hear about crime and corruption in a personal way does not mean it doesn't exist.. Just be careful. By the way, excellent salary your friend was making, not very common in mexico. Only a fortunate few can make a decent amount of money teaching English, specially with such small amount of hours. Other schools you can attend in GDL are Berlitz, Quick Learning, Boston Language Institute, and you will find many more in the Yellow Pages, however, I am not sure on the salary.... Women are always approachable in Mexico, as long as you are a complete gentleman, you will always have lady friends. Hopefully one day I can return to GDL and teach, I really do enjoy it. But first I need to save a large quantaty of money because I also have a business that needs to be taken care of in Mexico. I want to retire by the age of thirty. Live comfortable off my business, and teach English on the side....got six years to see what happens... good luck to all, keep in touch...
Montes,
I take it you're living in the Us now? Hope you don't mind me getting invasive, but what kind of work are you doing now and what kind of business do you plan on running eventually in Mexico?...Liked your idea of working in US and saving 100G over next few years to bring to Mexico and really enjoy the life down there. So does this mean you won't be taking any more trips to GDL or anywhere else in Mexico the next few years?..I may decide to stay in Us and do the same..make some good money the next few years and save, and during that time jet down to Mexico for some R and R ( 7-10 days each trip of strip clubs, esteticas, and outcall service!)maybe twice per year until i'm ready for a more permanent move. Besides teaching or tutoring english can be a grind in the long haul. i almost got burnt out on it after just a few months of tutoring back in '99!..Piper out.
Gpiper: I've been back in the US for a few months now. Triying to re-establish my life here has been very difficult. I was gone for almost 3 years, came back broke, and also with some health issues do to poor surgery procedures in Puerto Vallarta's CMQ....and a very reckless lifestyle....the average 21-24 type of lyfestyle.....
I am trying to set up a cleaning business here in the US, but I am taking my time, no hurry. I figure my health comes first. As far as what business I want to set up in Mexico, well it can be a variety of things. I have a lot of hook-ups and know a large number of people who are business minded. Plus most of my family members are profesionals down there, Doctors, Accountants, lawyers, shit like that...basically what I want is the cash... A large sum...100G comes out to be about a Million in pesos, I can pretty much set up anything I want...a few uncles and cousins are business owners and live life 100 times better and much happier, than those who live in the US...plus they dont have to deal with the stress of every day life that builds up in the US...every week end they are able to get away.... come back on monday and the business is in tact...they pay their employees, at times double or triple the amount an average person can make in GDL...keeping them happy....
montes:
You need to settle down and pace yourself. I did 20 years in the US Military and I'm still kick'n and in pretty good health due to a paced life style. This does not mean I don't like to have fun, I do. I did things I never dreamed of while in the Military. I too would love to spend some time in Guad., learn Spanish and investigate the possibilities of retiring there in the future.
What are your comments/ideas?
Falcon
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Prokofiev
[i]Gpiper!
You broke every rule in the book! Fighting with the local bouncers? Only 1 condom? Passed out drunk with a girl in your room at 6am with your wallet out? Ouch!! This time think with the BIG head, for your own sake. [/QUOTE]
Easyrider horn dog rule no. 29.....Never, ever, ever, argue with a bouncer. If they are rippin you off, politely object, go ask for the manager, but basically get the fuck out of there, and don't come back.
Never, ever, start shit in a titty joint. You might be bigger than that bouncer, but my bet is he can tear your head off faster than you can say Ahhhyy Chihuahua.
Consider yourself lucky......
Falcon,
I would recommend that you begin learning Spanish before you go to Mexico. It is a long term process and will strongly affect how you feel about the country. Before learning any Spanish I enjoyed a trip to Mexico, but never would have considered a move there. After 5 years of study I'm just begining to get a feel for the language. It has opened a new world. It would seem that you are around 40? You will find that much younger mexican women - 10 to 15 years younger- will consider you as a mate, if you have a little class and a little money. Treat the ladies with respect and you will be seen as a great catch. - P
Hey all, I was researching IMAC to be a student of Spanish and was hoping to go down there for at least 4 weeks but hopefully as many as 12 weeks, depending on money. I consider myself an intermediate student. IMAC seemed like the best balance for location, city size, and price.
My questions:
Do you think IMAC is a decent place to learn Spanish rather than teach English? They won't dog me out for chasing tail as a student, right? Are the homestays an ok deal? I realize I can't bring pussy home to "Mom" but I don't have the budget for a hotel for an extended period. I'd rather have the privacy, but you have to make sacrifices to extend your stay.
That is really exciting to think that there are more Mexican students of English than Spanish learners there, because I had this idea that IMAC (or any other school) would be just me and a bunch of boring white princesses from the U.S. (Not racism--I am white.) I am almost 28 so I don't think the age of the girls should be a problem unless these chicks consistently want men who are 20 years older. But please correct me if I am wrong about age!
Thanks for your inputs!
Dylock,
I was a Spanish student @ IMAC this January for one week. I took private lessons, so it was one-on-one at an advanced level. I learned a lot, but if I had taken group lessons there would only have been 2 or 3 students in my class. During the summer there are more US and foreign Spanish students-how many I'm not sure. However IMAC is primarily an English teaching school and has over 1000 English students. Most are female (60% or more) and they range from about 13-22, with most around 16-18. At 28 I would say that the vast majority will be too young to consider, but you will still find 50 or so senoritas 18+. Also several of the instructors are women 25-32. The school is busy from 8am-8pm 6 days a week, closed Sunday.
I don't think the girls want men 20 years older, but they WILL consider older men as mates more readily than in the US. At 28, you could date from 18-30 which covers almost everyone you will meet at IMAC, except for a few senior faculty. I have heard good things about the families and housing. The only complaint was that many of the homes are a good distance from the school. Also it will be virtually impossible to bring SW's ,strippers etc. home to Mom.
I like the location of IMAC, in El Centro near much of the cities action. Two recommendations: First, attend the nightly exchange program from about 6 to 7pm, as I recall. It's the best way to meet chicas at the school. Second, a cheap and reasonable place to get laid is Valentino's, which is only 3-4 blocks from the school! Massage and FS was 350 pesos and you don't have to worry about your home family. Read more in the archives from Feb and March 2002.
Thanks Prokofiev. I never knew I would find the best school information on THIS site. At least I am getting the real deal here.
Besides homestay ($98 per week) the 2 cheap hotels they quoted me were Hotel Posada San Rafael for $13-$20 U.S. for night and Hotel Posada San Pablo for 130 to 150 pesos per night. The others were 4-star, so forget that. Do you know of these or other hotels? There is no question that the homestay is cheap, but I like my privacy and don't want to be in the boonies. Even their website says the families are about 30-35 minutes away.
I have read about the esteticas and it sounds exciting, even better than the TJ scene. I have the budget for that, as small as my budget is!
Finally, I noticed on a map that IMAC is a stone's throw from Univ. of Guad. with its ridiculous 180,000 students! There has got to be some tail walking around there, right??!!
Dylock,
No, I'm not familiar with either hotel. If you are staying multiple weeks (4-12), then I think I would sign-up for a home stay for the first week and play it by ear. You can check-out your options after you are there in Guadalajara. I doubt that one week in a home is going to cramp your style. The esteticas are reasonable and even if you DO meet a chica or two during the first week, don't expect to score the first few days or dates. Showing respect is VERY important with mexicanas and you should move slow. So no matter how fast you hook-up with someone, the first week won't make any difference. Who knows, you might luck-out with a great homestay and you will be ahead of the game moneywise.
...The school does a good job of orientation the first day - with info, maps, tips about the city, etc. Read the Archives and beware of the strip clubs. I found them expensive and loud. Save your pesos for dates or esteticas. Valentino's is bare bones, but a good deal. Try it at least once. Don't be put-off by the coolness of the entrance. A locked door and a woman in a white smock who will look like a nurse. Once you are in the back, the girls can be as sweet as sugar.
... Th University is a short walk away-about 10? blocks. Look here for a tutor who might meet you an hour a week for a cheap lesson. You can hook-up this way. Also take advantage of the formal introductions so common in Mexico. If you want to meet a woman, find someone to introduce you. She MUST go thru all the motions of meeting you - and you will say "Muchissimo gusto de conocerla" or "El gusto es mio" etc. Getting your foot in the door is the most important part. After that, let's see how much charm you have!! Good Luck. -P
Hey Prok,
That is a great idea to go with the homestay initially and then look around if necessary. That way I at least know I have a ceiling on costs and some level of stability.
Overall, it sounds like you can do pretty well if you are consciously respectful to the women, which does NOT work in the U.S. in my experience. Disrespect seems to be the key here. I guess I will see how approachable they are compared to the white American lesbo princesses. My goal would be primarily to have some chick(s) to date and French kiss, and if they want to throw pussy my way it is just a bonus. I can always go to the esteticas in the meantime. In any case it sounds like fun.
After reading the reviews, I will not even enter a strip club. Thanks a lot for your candor.
I'm about ready to head down to GDL for a couple of months. A lot of these posts seem kind of old. Wondering if anybody has the recent info on where to go down there?? thanks
Without a doubt, Guadalajara has some of the most beautiful women in Mexico. I am about to say the same thing here that I have said in my posting on Rio. The women are very friendly. The way for you to meet some potential girl friends is just to approach them and talk to them. You can practically do this anywhere. I went out with bank tellers, travel agents, students, even girls that I just talked to in Gigante(one of the main super markets). University of Guadalajara(U. de G.) has several campuses where you can meet young women. C.U.(ciudad universitaria)which is the campus for the autonoma (UAG) is my favorite hunting ground. All the malls as well as plaza tapatia are also good places to pick up girls.
Now some more advice:
1. If a girl is not interested, don't push the issue. They may be married or have a boy friend, etc. Don't get yourself in trouble. Just go on to the next girl.
2. Guadalajara is a fairly prosperous city, relative to the rest of the latin cities/countries. Some of the girls are very high class and certainly not as desperate as the girls in Cuba, etc. So you need to act accordingly. You may not always score on the first day, but you almost surely will by the second or third date.
3. Aim high. Go for the most beautiful and attractive girl. Like I said, the people are friendly, and if the girl likes you, she'll go with you.
4. How do you approach the girls? well, I usually just use the line, "hola, buenos dias or tarde, soy nuevo en su ciudad, le puedo invitar a un cafe o refresco?".....transaltion, "hi, I am new in your city, can I invite you for a coffee or soda", and that's it...I guarantee, about 5 out of ten times, you're gonna get a very favorable response.
5. Knowing a few Luis Miguel songs won't hurt either...just kidding...
Again, don't forget the campus at C.U., it is the place for the best looking and classiest girls in the entire city.
Good luck. J.G.
I will be in Mexico from mid-Aug to mid-October. I will be in GDL for at least 4 weeks at IMAC Spanish school and then probably travel to other places like Mexico City, etc. I decided on staying at the guest house near the school rather than homestay or hotel.
I have made contact with dozens of girls on www.yupimsn.com. I paid $30 to allow them to contact me for free for 3 months and I have been getting many letters. Before I posted my preference for a girl in the USA or Mexico or someone who can travel to the USA, I was literally getting 15 new letters per day, sometimes from very beautiful women. The problem is that a great number of them are in Peru or Colombia where I have no intention (or means) of going in the near future. Anyway, you guys might be interested in that site especially if you post a photo and write a friendly profile but you really do need to know Spanish to make it worthwhile. I have 2 chicks who want to meet me in Mexico City when I am down there, and one of them wants to take me to Acapulco. We'll see!
I can't wait to talk to some Guadalajara girls! They sound really nice!
anybody got any current info on GDL?? i'm down here right now and want to know a cool place for mujeres!
Dylock,
You still alive? How are things at IMAC? I have tried the YUPI.com site and I'm quite happy. Thanks for the info. Tell us about your trip . . .
hello ups i just returned from guadalajara last night.i rent a house there and have ben working in mexico for 6 years. i have not been every where in mexico but i know there are a ton of beautiful,lonely,approachable,available women in guadalajara that want to meet gringos.if you want strip clubs try nuevo galleon on ninos heroes near the mission carlton hotel or ramses on calle 58 no. 19 also club extreme.you can take a stripper home from one of these clubs for about $120 - $200 depending on her quality,the night of the week,and if she likes you.i do recomend decent spanish skills for nuevo galleon.i do definitely not recomend kaos or the mens club.for esteticas (massage and full sex) i recomend jet set (ave. mexico) [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or high society(both near each other on lazaro cardenas.make sure they let you review all the chicas before you choose,do not let one girl grab on to you as you enter or let them take you to a room and then send in one of there choosing.all these esteticas are about 400-600 pesos.for meeting amateurs i recomend any of the restaurants in centro magno,especially el arca or chilis,any shopping mall in town is good.the hippos bar in plaza del sol is also good.the old fashioned way is best...eye contact ..a smile and the appraoch.if you are a gringo they will normally be checking you out first.there is a big shortage of men in guadalajara,believe me.check this web site www.mexicanmatchmakers.com for a flavor of the women in guadalajara.hope this helps bueno suerte!
Renegade, did you check out ramses 2, I see the new club has been open only 9 months,if so is it different than the first ramses?? do you know the address of club extreme?? Thanks.
Trex.....Yes I have been to the new Ramses and it sucks.I only recomend the one I have mentioned.I like this one because it is mellow and they don't try to rip you off.The waiters will also tell you which girls will leave the club with you,the last time I was there they no longer were giving full sex in the club.Extreme is at the corner of Avenida Colon & Patria Sur this is about 5 minutes soth of Lalaro Cardenas & ten minutes from the Plaza del Sol area.Not a large number of chicas (12-15) but some high quality.You pat the club direct for them to leave with you 2,000 pesos for 2-3 hours.Taxistas will all know both these clubs,just make sure they take you to the correct Ramses.Both are also safe to go alone if your spanish is decent.I have a novia now but I am heading back to Guad on the 30th if anybody else needs any more info....Good time to travel to Mexico 10.3 pesos for the dollar. . . Be careful everybody & have fun.
Hey Renegade,
That Web-site Mexicanmatchmakers is a great looking site. Highly reccomended just for the pictures. But those women seem serious minded - husbands needed inmediatamente! Did you join this site and meet someone? Not cheap but probably worth it to the serious minded guy. Also have had great results using the YUPI.com site. Only costs $2 per woman contacted. Haven't worked the mexican ladies (yet...) but have contacted several women in Barcelona. They have written back and I plan on meeting several next month. -P
Proko As I mentioned I have totally been in to amateurs for the last year. I feel this website gives a good flavor of the amateurs in Guadalajara.As you saw they cover the fool rangeof age and quality.The agency has an office/hotel in the Chapalita section of Guad. I never joined but I met many guys who have and are happy with the service. I went to an open house there and met three ladies that I later dated. Many of the women are serious but I got the feeling most would be happy for a quality person for a night out.Remember the scarcity of quality men in Guadalajara is definitely in our favor.I met a 32 year old school teacher at the open house that I had sex with on the second date,and for about 4 months I would call her when I got to town and it was basically a sex only relationship.She never asked for more and I never called her from the US.She has 2 kids is divorced and looks great. But now I want something different.There are also about 5 times as many women available through this agency that won't give permission to have there picture used on the internet.They have these giant albums with profiles of the girls that tell you if they are looking for a husband or friendship,and also the age of the man they will consider.Some guys may be meeting wives here,but I know alot are also getting laid. I read that post from Dylock about YUPI a while back,it sounds like a good way to go.I'm jealous you're going to Barcelona I have wanted to go to Spain and Argentina for the last several years. I to am trying to master the spanish language. Con cuidate siempre
Ramses girls work days at a MP in the Intercontinental Hotel called Deja Voo (the way it is actually spelled.) It looks like a legitimate massage place with aromatherapy. But, owned by the brother of the owner of Ramses and It is actually an estetica. It is expensive though about 120 USD but the girls are good looking and you get a 60 minute real massage, first. Also includes use of the jaccuzzi and suana. Reminds me of Fracebel in Sao Paulo but the girls are a step or two lower. I would appreciate feed back if have any.
hey renegade, gracias para la info. Estoy estudianda en gdl ahora. he visto some esteicas and didn´t like what i saw. lots of the girls here seem like they're looking 4 love. what kind of work do you down here?? i´m here for at least 3 more months and just trying to improve my español and look for mujeres!
Hey UPS ....Que Paso? I answered a question about myself from Prokofiev a few days ago,the response is in the Mexico Genera Info section of the Forum-check it out. What Spanish school are you enrolled in?I am thinking about taking another week of classes in November.What esteticas did you go to that the girls were looking for love,that is an interesting comment.You can definitely get some GFE time from the estetica girls in Guad but I stiil always felt they were looking for the money.Did you visit the esteticas I mentioned? If you are in Guadalajara for 3 months and you have some Spanish skills you should definitely be able to hook up with some Tapatias. Give me a liittle background info on yourself and what you are looking for and I can probably point you in the right direction. Big Johnson- I heard there was an estetica in that building now.I think they will have a hard time competing at that price,of course some gringos might think that price is a bargain.The only upscale estetica I have been to is named Rincon Real,it has no sign and no phone book listing.A security guard stands in front.You have to be a foreigner or well to do Mexican to get in.It is near Santa Coyote in colonia Americana, calle Lerdo de Tejada No. 2190.They are open 11-8 and 9 months ago it was 1,000 pesos for massage and full service.Very clean,nice ,upscale place.I recomemd if it is in your budget. I am returnig to Guadalajara Monday for the week,can'y wait especially now that the rainy season is over. Con Cuidate,Renegade
hey que onda renegade?? I read your info on genara. That´s cool, I need to find a company to pay for me to be down here. On my last response. I didn't mean the girls at the esteticas were looking for love. I was meaning the average mexicana. I haven´t had a chance to go to either of the ones that you had suggested, but it is my weekend now. I´m going to a little extended campus at UDG. It´s ok. Kind of expensive for what you get but I´m learning some. Yeah, i´m here for at least 3 more months. I´ve meet some girls at the clubs but I live w- a mexican family so there goes any chance of bringing em home, thank god for motels! Where would you recommend going out around here?? Oh the estetica that i visited that had nothing but feas was on balboa de balbuena, near americas and mexico. No idea what the name is. I actually was just walking around and saw it. Women in there looked like life had been pretty rough on them. The other is valentinos, I have seen about 4 or 5's there but usually i pass it during the day. Maybe there is a better selection at night.
About www.mexicanmatchmakers.com
I have personally used this service. It costs 595$/year. There is also a charge of around 60$/night for staying in one of the rooms in the house. The owner of the service, Terri, is a nice guy and will try to be helpful. I would recommend the service however ONLY under the following circumstances: if you are in your 50's or 60's and not too picky about your girl, then this service will provide you with many introductions. However, if you are more selective or looking for some one younger, save your money. This agency will not be helpful in that case. Before wasting your money, just go to one of the malls in Guadalajara in the early evening and look at the girls there. Then compare those girls to the ones on the web site -actually there will be no comparison. Also the service is not very organized. Many times, the girls(especially the younger and prettier ones) will set up a time, but will never actually show up for the date.
One last thing. You will be responsible for the girls' taxi cost to and from the agency(they will tell you that only after you have paid your membership). They tell you, "oh, it's only about one or two dollars", but in reality, I paid about 10 to 12 dollars for taxi per date.
To sum it up, if you are not too choosy, or are older than 50 years old, then consider using this agency. Otherwise, save your money.
J.G.
JG
Tell us more. Is it that the agency only has older women? - thats not what I see on the website. Or you think younger guys can do better in clubs or malls? Is it a dating service or marraige service? In Mexico it may be one and the same, but to ME they are two different things. Can you only meet the women at the agency? How does that work? What age group are you in - and how many chicas did you meetThanks for the info.
Again, provided you can read and write Spanish, Yupi.com is a great way to go. Very cheap. And I have exchanged letters with 5 women to date(5 of 8 replied), all in my target city. And it helps improve your Spanish as well . . .I'll see if I ever hook-up with any of them next month . . .
Peace, -P
Hi Prokofiev
Your questions are all excellent ones and I'll try to answer them the best I can without getting too specific about my personal details.
The agency has women of ALL ages and in fact they have more women in their photo albums at the agency than on the web site.
But again, the quality and beauty of the women available is far less than what you find in the general population.
You can meet as many women as you like. There are no limits. If you like to meet 100 women, they will set that up for you. Initially you always meet at the house, which is located in calle Sacramonte in the Chapalita zone. However, what you do after that is up to the two of you. You can continue the date that same day(go to a restaurant, etc), or meet another day-of course if the two of you like each other. It is an introduction agency, and most of the girls are legitimate(there are a few flakes of course, and as I said a few will not even show up at the time that they are supposed to meet you). I think a marriage can follow, if that's what the two people are interested in.
As far as the younger guys doing better at the malls, etc. Well, it's a little tricky. The women of Guadalajara are the most beautiful women in the world(if some one knows of a city with prettier girls, let me know so I can go there immediately!), but they are certainly not as desperate for gringos as their counterparts in Cuba, Brasil, etc. Mexico is of course a poor country, but the economy actually is not too bad right now in Guadalajara, and people seem to be doing quite well. So picking up girls will take some work on your part.
To sum up: if you are in your 50's and up, or if you're not too choosy, or if you have a very limited time and limited Spanish, then go ahead and use the agency by all means. You'll get your money's worth. Otherwise, I would save my money(your total costs with the agency will probably come out to about 1000$) and try to meet some of the girls on my own.
I hope I answered your questions. If not, let me know. And thanks for the tip about yupi.com; I'll look into it. J.G.
Hey guys, yes I am alive. I was actually writing my report in an Internet Cafe in Mexico City when there was a sudden hailstorm and the power went out. Damn!
Anyway, I was in GDL for a month. I visited Jet Set 4 times where they charged me 700-800 pesos. That is pretty steep especially if you are used to Tijuana. I never found the famed Valentino's that Prokofiev mentioned. Does it exist? Jet Set had women between below-average-looking and slightly-above-average-looking, but no stunning beauties. I only went there repeatedly because I knew how to get there. There was one freak tehre who liked to get nasty and do almost anything but I started to feel a little dirty with her and started to rethink my activities. Anyway, I also went to Griego's once (Av. Pedro Moreno) but full service was not offered. 320 pesos for massage and HJ and 500 total to touch her, also. I have had better times in TJ, honestly. I also went to Candy's Girls strip bar in Zapopan (near Wal-Mart on Vallarta and Rafael Sanzio) and lined up a stripper to meet me after her shift ended for $100 U.S. for 3 hours of sex. When I showed up at 6am to pick her up she never came out. I was pissed since I woke my ass up after sleeping only 2.5 hours.
The true beauty of GDL are the common women. Toward the end of my stay I dated 2 girls at the same time who worked at IMAC. They were fairly cute, but there are about 3-5 girls who work there who are just stunning. I am talking about 20- to 25-yr-olds. I am under 30, just for reference. IMAC is full of eye candy, but as mentioned several months ago, many are too young. I also met one girl in a bar who I could have been with (according to her) as a boyfriend but she had just broken up with her boyfriend and was recovering. In any case I went out with her and her friend a lot. I dated a couple other girls. I dated more girls in one month there than I did all year in the USA. The girls in GDL really ARE better looking than in Mexico City or anywhere else I have seen with Mexican women and they really ARE open in general.
Thanks to Yupi.com, I am now in Mexico City staying with a great girl I met through there. I also met one in Los Angeles before I left and have one lined up upon my return in a week and a half. Thank you Yupi! The best way to meet girls on Yupi is to sign up for 3 months for $30. You will eventually get multiple hot girls writing you and it is cheaper than the pay-per-contact option.
I hope I haven't forgotten anything since the WSG was down during my whole stay in GDL and I am just trying to remember everything! Good luck, mongers!
Dylock,
Glad you enjoyed everything. Too bad about Valentinos - it's in the Yellow Pages! but is a little hard to find. Only 3 blocks from IMAC!
The Yupi.com link has changed my life. Thanks for that one. I'm leaving for Barcelona next week and have 9 different ladies who want a date. I'm just hoping for 1 or 2 good ones . . .We will see!
But I disagree about the $30 option. Why not just pay the $2 per contact and pick and choose who you want? Otherwise you end up hearing from girls in Colunbia, Peru and Venezuela when you wanted Guadalajara. I wrote to 11 women that interested me and 9 replied! And my Spanish has really improved writing so many letters. Gracias amigo . . .
Went to Kaoz the other day. Not too bad of a place. It did not have a cover charge. Beers are 40 pesos each and a lap dance is 150 pesos and to buy the girl a drink is 100 pesos. I think the time the girl stays with you depends on the girl. Fairly good selection of girls there. My friend and I each got a dance. He spent 45 bucks and got a BJ. I settled for one dance and got the usual touching and what not. Girl "suggested" we go upstairs but for 2000 pesos. Yeah right. The place actually wasn´t too bad, i´d recommend it but if you want sex I´d go someplace else. The only major annoyance that I had, was that every fucking person in the club was asking for a tip. Even the people that didn´t do shit. That got fairly annoying. I´d rather not tip somebody to stand and watch me get a lap dance. I´d recommend you know at least a little spanish if you went there. A few of the waiters knew broken english and i think a few girls as well. If an estetica isn´t your thing this place isn´t too bad.
Hate for my first message to be a request, not a report, but...
Going to Guadalajara tomorrow night. Will be in around 10pm, leaving next afternoon around 3:30PM. Want to make the best of it.
Most interested in esteticas, but there aren't any direct recommendations on the new forum, and the archives aren't available at the moment.
Staying downtown (I think) at the Crowne Plaza.
Any recommendations would be appreciated. I'll contribute ASAP!
Jav
PS Message to slickwings@yahoo.com would be fine, too.
Thanks!!
Jav . . .
I posted a report about Valentino's Estetica back in Feb. Has several locations and are listed in the Yellow Pages. I went to the downtown location which is 4-5 blocks from the cathedral. I liked it because of the price. 350 =$35 for a sauna, massage + FS. A hell of a deal in my book. The women are not beauties and the rooms are small, but it worked for me. If you are looking for beautiful young girls, try some of the others JetSet, etc. Looking at $65-$100 and I'm not sure the women are better since I haven't been there. For me, a GFE is more likely with a 34 yo woman with 3 kids than a 19 yo fashion model. So for me cheaper can also be better. I had a great time at Valentinos, 3 or 4 great times in fact. Good Luck
-P
JetSet--I repeat my assertion that Jet Set is fairly expensive for the quality of girls they have.
Valentino's--I looked in the phone book and never found it under esteticas. I asked one group of taxi drivers downtown about it and they did not know of it.
Prokofiev,
De nada por la información...You are correct that if you have very specific criteria or location it may be worth the $2 per contact option. I bought 10 such coupons and used 9 of them. However, my results were very weak. A couple wrote back, and they took a very long time to do so. I no longer have contact with any of them. It is because you contact them out of the blue when they may have forgotten they even have a profile. Their interest level was low from the start. I only reply to about 5% of those who have written me, so it is not totally surprising to get a low turnout. But I am glad it has worked for you. Good luck with your trip.
I guess I prefer the $30 option because I know that anybody who writes to me is already interested and I do not have to fret about wasting my money on someone who won't write back to me. There were enough responses that I was getting some good-looking ones occasionally. You have to be careful of the visa seekers though. I am pretty excited to meet one of these girls when I return home to the US this Friday. She is pretty cute in her photos. Meanwhile I am spending my last days with my horny girlfriend in Mexico City.
Thank you both for the good info.
For some reason, the archives are not available, leaving me feeling quite naked on my first journey to GDL, especially with such a small window of opportunity.
First trip, I'll try jetset, unless I can find Valentinos in the phone book (I'll try "Masages")
See Ya'
Jav
Actually, look under "esteticas." I heard "High Class" is good but did not go there. Heard it is high price, too, like 1000 pesos!
for esteticas [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and jet set are the only ones worth going to in $60 range. the $30 range brings more choices but spotty quality. i personally love [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. deja vu in the intercontinental is good but too expensive again $100. the girls of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] are as good or better.
all right, guys. there and back already. did a hell of a lot of recon', considering i arrived around 11pm and left around 4pm...
went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], per everyone's recommendations and because i could walk there. at 11am, there were roughly 5-6 girls, which was plenty, because i couldn't remember but 2 names after the latin-american curtsi they do for you. i chose tanya, mid 20's, nice figure, pleasant smile.
planned to use jacuzzi, but there was standing water in it, and it scared me. shower was nice. she came in about 1/2 way through. talked as best we could for a couple of minutes, and established that i would like a nice massage and hj finish. no discussion of price or anything.
she gave a nice massage for a while, then i gave her a better one. a very nice, non-rushed 45 minute session. she is a very nice girl, but i would probably try somebody new next time, hoping for a little better massage. but, maybe not, who knows? though we seemed to have a good rapport, she did not seem interested in visiting my hotel next trip.
price 350 pesos to the house, 450 to her, which i thought was kind of steep. it didn't seem like a "gringo cash grab," just the price she charges, but i could be wrong.
thanks to all who gave information on this forum. some information:
deja voo: closed. looked all around the intercontinental, and finally asked conciere. too bad, but too high priced, anyway.
jetset: ave. mexico 2071a, 3615-3451
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] lazaro cardenas 2934, 3122-4918
valentino: justo sierra 2642, 3616-6320
colon 238, 3613-1600
ave. hidalgo 1758, 3616-9173
a lot of escort agencies in same section of yellow pages. anybody every try?
thanks again -- happy hunting!
jav
question, anybody have the word on Thailand and the prices. the website never works. Just curious if it's an estetica or a escort service and the quality. gracias
i checked this place out in april when i was taking some language courses in colonia chapalita.i would definitely stay away. the day i visited in the afternoon there were about 6 twenty year old guys hanging out in the reception area,this seemed unusual to me,since they weren't customers but were just hanging out. this made me feel uncomfortable. every estetica i have been to in mexico only has an older woman or man running things.never a bunch of people hanging out in the reception area.the 2 women working that afternoon were both 2-3 in my book,both overweight,mid 30's and unattractive.i had the manager give me a tour and he seemed pretty desperate for business and the price was 650 pesos for full sex. i think if you are looking in the lower price estetica price range (400-600 pesos for fs) go to high class on lazaro cardenas near [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url],this place always has an arch of orange & purple ballons out front. hey ups any luck with the girls at your schhol? i have always had pretty good success with amateurs under the following conditions,not living with parents,and either divorced or single mothers.things develop alot faster with these women than then the knock-out 24 year old virgin that is only going to give you a case of the blue balls because she has to be home by midnight. there are a ton of beautiful single moms walking around guadalajara. buena suerte,amigos
So Thailand isn´t that good huh?? I see ads for it all the time in some magazine called ocio that has all the clubs, bars and what not in the city. I actually ended up dropping the one girl at my school. I am talking to a tapatia right now, except she lives with the parents and that is kind of a pain, but i have plenty of time here. No worries. How was your trip to GDL renegade??
Ola UPS, my trip was fine and in fact I am returning To Guad on the 29th for 10 days.I went to Leon and Aguascalientes last time but I would not recommend either for the hobby,the quality of women you see in these cities do not compare to Guadalajara or Monterey.These cities are very industrial and the women are less stylish.A couple of other places you may want to check out for amateurs in Guadalajara: Copacabana is a latin dance club on Lopez Mateos about 1 mile south of Plaza del Sol.I was there with my girlfriend on a Saturday and there were many available Tapatias.The crowd was about 25-45 age group.They have a live band and it is well lit and not crowded so it is very conducive to checking out the ladies.The second place is called Kookookaru and is also on LopezMateos about 100 yards south of the Hotel Intercontinental.This is a Chippendale type club that admits men at midnight,I have had luck meeting several women here.At midnight they have house dance music and the women are ready after watching the male strip show.Good Luck with your tapatia but if you don't score after 5-6 dates move on because there are penty of women in Guad. buena suerte,renegade
What is a Tapatia?
A tapatia is a nickname for a women from Guadalaja and i think jalisco as well.
Hola renegade! I gotta a question. Which stripclub would you recommend? I have only hit up Kaoz here with some of my friends once. I think that I have read a couple of people saying that they think that place sucks. We´re going to hit up another one before they take off back to the states so since you seem to be the GDL expert, hook me up with some recommendations! Thanks.
ups check these clubs out.........NUEVO galleon-avenida ninos heros just north of the mission carlton hotel-NEED DECENT SPANISH HERE SO your friends might not be to comfortable,hotel next store and most girls available for salida RAMSES-calle 58 no. 19 just off of avenida javier mina north of downtown in the zona tolerencia,there are 2 ramses make sure you go to this one not the new one,waiters will tell you whch girls are up for extra curriculars Extreme-corner of avenidas COLON and Patria Sur , normally less selection but high quality,manager speaks English and all thes clubs are very nice to grigos PRICES ARE LOWER AND GIRLS ARE WILDER AND normally younger at Nuevo Galleon Have fun and we'll be looking for your report........bueno suerte,renegade
hola renegade! what is the name of the one on nuevo galleon and avenida heroes?? thanks and i´ll fill ya in later!
Does anyone know if it ok to have escorts come to your room at the hotel Frances? If not can anyone recommend a hotel. I will be leaving for GDL on 01.07.02 for five days...got the ticket from American Airlines having a sale RT LAX to GDL for $219.00
I will be staying at the Crown Plaza in GDL next week. Does anyone have any recommendations for a nearby strip bar or massage parlor? My spanish is weak so I need to be in an establishment where someone speaks english. Also, any good nightclubs where I may have a chance to interact with some hot women?
Thanks in advance.
bjordan22, I'm going to Guadalajara Jan 6, 03. want to hunt together? drop me a line supertomcat001@loycos.com.
Hey renegade. Where is that one on Nuevo Galleon and Niño heroes?? My friends didn´t want to go the other day to that one so we went to kaos instead but I don´t live about a 20 minute walk from that area of niño heroes and am thinking about checking it out. I walked by that area the other day and didn´t see anything that appeared like a club.
Ihate ups- WHEN i posted before i had a really bad computer at a cyber cafe and maybe my info wasn't clear. The clubs name is Nuevo Galleon not the street,the street is Nino Heros and it is a block or 2 north of calle Indepencia,if you are looking up NINOS HEROS from the mission carlton hotel it has a 30 foot high neon sign with the name of the hotel,nighborhood looks a little rough but have been there alone many times with no hassles.Totally different deal from Kaos.Let us know what you think.Sorry slow to respond. GOOD LUCK.
renegade - the 'hood in the area of Nuevo galleon can be a bit rough at, say, 2am or so - the manager suggested that I take a taxi, but when he found out I was staying less than 2 blocks away he didn't have a problem. The major problem is that it's about 2 blocks away from the old central bus staion and for whatever reason, most central bus stations in Mexican cities tend to be pretty rough areas.
NG isn't exactly lit up (just the big neon sign on top of the hotel ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET) and you sort of "need to find" the entrada, but once inside it's actually pretty nice and not too expensive (might have changed since I was last there in Jan but I sort of doubt it - a 500ml bottle of liquor and a rignside seat was about 350mn. Some of the girls are reluctant to be touched but a little of "mas tocan, mas propina" helped quite a bit)
I lived in Guadalajara for 2 years while I was at UAG. The best places WERE Guadalajara de Noche and Las Juntas. I have heard that Las Juntas is now out but I have never been disapointed by GDN! Just remember, all the girls are working girls so if you see a georgeous girl she WILL fuck you just find out the price!
Finally went to Galeon. It was a sunday so it was pretty dead. Can`t say I like that cause i had two girls wanting me to buy them a drink before I sat down. No cover, drinks are 40 pesos, the bottles look like the best deal. Not too many girls, i`d guess 15 maybe 20. I think Xmas being so close had to be it. I really didn`t get a chance to check it out too much cause it was dead and i didn`t feel like having ugly girls bother me for drinks every 2 minutes. I will give a better report the next time i go. Renegade, what is up with the bar next to Galeon?
I¢¥m back in Guadalajara and just went to Valentino¢¥s on Colon . . . and the reason you guys can¢¥t find it is cause it¢¥s gone . . . now a clothing store. Too bad because it had the best prices in town 300-350 pesos FS and was the ONLY place near the cathedral. Oh well. Will check out the others and Nuevo Galleon . . . Peace , -P
i tried out high class today around 11 am. i was the only client and i thought it was a good deal. total cost is 450 pesos = $45 which includes a shower, sauna, massage and full service. everything was discussed beforehand - important - and there were no extra charges. i tipped her 50 for a total of $50 but it would not have been necessary.
the girl was 25 yo and named julieta. average looking woman but with a nice attitude. massaje was so-so but covered bj was excellent and we screwed in several positions. service with a smile and she got the job done just fine. only negative was no kissing on the mouth. she wasn¢¥t a beautiful woman and had several scars and problems - like most. but for me was just fine. saw two others on the way out and will return to sample them tomorrow. high class is located 1 block from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. i stopped there afterwards to check it out. $350 + xtras. will be more expensive and i didnt see any of the girls. will report back . . .
peace -p
Went back to High Class today and spent an hour with Maira. Her real name is Lupita and she is a morena, 30 yo and very cute. Nice body and great attitude. Better than yesterday. Cost me $55. Its probably a gringo price but each girl sets her own bargain. She was worth the extra $10. Great covered BJ and screwing in several positions. Im not sure but it seems that both ladies were trying to have me cum with a BJ rather than screw me. But when I suggested we switch, there was no problem. Great friendly service. Want to try other esteticas here but once you find something that works and is cheap it is hard to switch. And there were 5 other women to choose from today. This place gets my recommendation. The rooms are large (- but not exactly High Class), the ladies friendly, willing and competent. Try it . . .
Also went to Nuevo Galeon last nite. Not my cup of tea . . . The prices are cheaper than some other strip clubs - drinks are $4 and for the ladies $7. But that is $12-13 a round. And with lap dances and other come-ons you can spend $100-200 easy without getting laid. Whats the point? Spanish skills? Dont worry, everything is so loud you cannot talk in any language. And the strip show is on a DARK stage. What is the point? Some of the girls were very attractive but at least half were average or below.
For my money, the esteticas of Guadalajara are it. Cheap. Friendly. Total service. Relaxing. Low pressure. And you will get laid for around $50. Maybe I'm just getting old . . . Later -P
Hi Prokofiev, wanted to get directions to High Class. I will be in GDL on the 7th of January for five days. What is the best way to get there from the Hotel Frances in centro historico.
Thanks,
bjordan22
bj,
high class is at 2913 lazaro cardenas, about a block from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. you can take a taxi for 30 pesos (gringo price might be 40 or 50). thats the easy way. or take the tur blue-green bus on ave. juarez for 6 pesos. it goes past los arcos and turns left at the minerva fountain. get off at la eptampida sculpture (fountain) ave niños heroes and walk 2 blocks. the neighborhood is quite good.
went there again today at noon. i asked for maira and she was just arriving. great session for 550. shes not a fashion model but is cute and gets prokos highest recommendation. pure mexicana morena with a very nice body. no scars, burns, tatoos, piercings, nada. great skin. short but not fat. great attitude and smile. playful. put her to the test and screwed her in every position i could think of. no problema! a real trooper who never complained or told me to hurry up. if this type of woman is not for you, then you are in the wrong country my friend. were 5 others to choose from. no english but that really isnt a problem.
remember that at almost all esteticas you can request a certain woman or choose from the available ladies. you dont have to go with the first woman who grabs you. of course if you dont know any of them, it can be tough to reject the first one. it is her turn and she wants the money. and no matter what they say, it stings a little bit to be rejected. but if you go, ask for maira (after 12 noon) and see if it works out. she looks better in her birthday suit than dressed. good luck, - p
Thanks Prokofiev, I will definitely check out this establishment. I do prefer the women in Mexico and like them a little gordita con pechos grande! Being a Southern California resident I am excited to get a change from TJ and try out something different, hope GDL will be as good as I read not only for action but for cultural and historical experience.
no time to spare so i looked in the book and chose an escort service that advertised they spoke english. the first one “prestige” couldn’t speak english. the next, manhatten could. i ask for a young, thin, pretty mexican girl and got an old, fat, ugly mexican momma. do not use manhattan escort service in gdl.
she could do a mean blow job but i had a hard time keeping it hard. when i looked up and so her and not what i asked for, i couldn’t get mad at her only the service that paid no attention to my request. again do not use manhattaan escort service in the yellow pages.
the next day i went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and had a good time.
bone
bone,
how much was the escort and how much was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]? give us some details about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]... prices and whats available.
bjordan,
did you go to high class? what happened? info please ...
pro,
this misadventure took place before christmas and i have just gotten around to posting.
the escort from manhatten was 1000 pesos. she did take us$ at 10 to 1 luckily. most definately not worth it. i cant really be mad at the girl as she was only there because she was told someone wanted her. the guy that answered the phone should have his nuts removed. nothing i asked for was delivered.
the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] experience was redeeming. as for the cost, i had the son of my agent pay for everything as well as do all the talking. i went around 4:00 in the afternoon and was there nearly an hour and a half. told later that it cost around 800 pesos. basicaly the reviews from other posters are accurate. that's why i wanted to go there. being the senior member of my group, i was given first choice of 5-6 girls that were there. my girl was sweet as an angel about 24-26 years old. not thin but far from chubby. mara, maria, mary, maybe was her name. of course i treated her like an angel so she probably returned the favor by acting like one. she is the type you just couldnt keep your hands off. i wound up doing the most massaging. i get a bit tender hearted with young pretty girls that are in the industry because i can imagine how they are treated by some and i feel sorry for them so it turns out i work for them but i do the paying. there's just something about those pretty white smiles and dark brown eyes of mexican girls that melt my heart.
although being in mexico about 30 times over the past 7 years, i never tried anything this close to home. most of my adventures are in europe and china. i will admit that as beautiful as the girls in gdl are, i have been tempted more than once to break my mexican virginity with a gdl girl.
hang in there,
bone
Great Report Bone I was in Guadalajara twice in 1998 and found the girls of GuadalaJara one of the hottest in Mexico I also found Mexico City for me was the best plus Veracruz and Acapulco HOT. In The Markets the Guadalajara girls were hot in the two line metro that I rode the girls I saw were hot. There hot bodies,Cute faces and very bonita green eyes had me going. I never did check out any strip clubs in Guadalajara but did check out a few Estetica MaSSage places but did not find any girls to my liking I could not find any streetwalkers the 2nd Time around on my visit to Guadalajara I guess Due to a lot of Rain when I visited. The hotels were a little bit more expensive then Mexico City. In DF you find great deals on hotels but anyways Guadalajara is a bargain. Great food too. OK LIke I said I was only twice in Guadalajara each time for one night only so man I would like to know Since 1998 How has all changed in this city. Did they ever add on a 3rd line to the metro? Are the Taxis safe to hail down in Guadalajara??????? In DF Too many of the VW taxis are dangerous I mean very damn dangerous. (I have heard about brothels in Guadalajara with three floors and I think a very famous strip club I think called Lipstick and the Mens Club which is probably a very expensive Rip Off,,, OK I wait for replies on this by other WSG guys or the Bone man himself,,,, BYE ;;; NIBU R...
hey, been out of GDL for a couple of months. I am going back this week or so. Anybody have any suggestions on hotels?? gracias
Was in town recently. Went to Kaos for the first time. Normal full nude strip club. Went with a bunch of guys and bought a bottle. The range for the bottle was from 36 to 100 USD but it lasted the 4 of us all night. Probably dropped another 20 USD in mixers and ice. Ladies drinks were in the 10 USD range.
Tickets were 150 peso each. 1 ticket got you a Mexican Lap Dance. First dance wouldn't get you much downstairs action and no touching downstairs. Things got more intimate by the ticket.
Ten ticket get you a very private 30 minute dance up in suite and a hand or blow job. 17 tickets gets you the suite and sex.
Typical Mexican strip club and every one wants a tip. Girls ranged from a 4s to strong 9s. 50% in the low numbers, 40% in the 7s and 8s.
I'd say stick to the esteticas, unless you are looking to spend 4 hours getting frustated.
I was in GDL for five days in January.
My experience in GDL was great! Not only is it a spectacular city it has some of the most gorgeous Latina’s in the world. The city takes you in with its old world charm that can only be Mexico.
I stayed at the Hotel Frances on Calle Maestranza. Great hotel very reasonable, great food, and fantastic nostalgic lobby with bar. I had no problems with ladies paying a visit to my room. My room was located on the top floor which is nice because at night you can sit at the patio furniture and enjoy a cerveza y un cigaro de Cuba.
The women..... I was there for five days and tried a estatica and three call services. The estatica High Class on Lazaro Cardenas was by far the best deal and service. They take you to a room where 6 to 10 girls parade by for you to choose. The one I chose was great I think she called herself Lana. Big natural breasts kind of light brown hair. She was great! I actually came back to High Class a couple of more times because of their prices and service (650 pesos).
Call services....suck! Thailand massage sent the most gorgeous woman I had ever been with...swear to god! She was an absolute 10++ She was however the worst sex I have ever had in my entire life. Not only expensive 1100 pesos but lousy. I tried a call service called Hot Ladiez nice looking 20 y.o. but she was also lousy. The best call service I found was not in a phone book but in a local newspaper that I picked up at one of those magazine stands. Just look in the classified section and you will see a few. The one I tried did not have a name but they sent me a nice looking girl who was very enthusiastic for 900 pesos.
Overall my time in GDL was grand. So many places to see and the city has a lot of history to offer. People are nice and friendly and the food is great. I would recommend taking one of the guided tours offered by Panamex, they meet near the main cathedral on ave. corona. Very reasonable prices with multi-lingual tour guides. Try to find a hotel in El Centro. The area is much nicer and historic.
I hope this contribution is helpful. I will be going to Peru shortly and will post another on my experience there.
Bjordan,
Why did it take you almost 3 months to report back????
What time/day did you go to High Class? Sounds like a lot if girls to choose from. I usually see 3 to 6 there during the day and I have never had a "line up".
The Hotel Frances is great, but the disco that goes to 2am really bothered me. Might depend where your room is. But their live music trio "Los Amantes" is excellent and fun.
I think because the esteticas get more repeat business, the girls try harder and hope you become a regular and ask for them. Also any problem or complaint is handled right there, where an escort is never near the management of the agency. If a girl gives bad service at an estetica, she gets booted out a lot faster.
Enjoy, -P
Prokofiev,
Sorry for the delay in my report on GDL.
I visited High Class in the early evening after I finished with the tours. When you first walk in most of the girls are sitting at that long table with the manager. On each of my visits I was taken to a room to the left and the girls would parade by for me to choose. They would then take me to a room upstairs where there is a jacuzi.
Have you been to the state of Monterey. I hear it is nice like GDL.
Bjordan
There seems to be a large open air bar or restaurant next to High Class. Is this part of it or a different business? I would say GDL is nicer than MTY. MTY reminds me of the US, more strip malls, fast food, etc. GDL is more colonial. More Mexican. Downtown MTY is older and has more flavor. IMHO, GDL has better looking girls, especially in the high end MPs but the price is 20% higher also.
Hello all, this is my first time posting. I am going to be staying in Lake Chappala area for the month of June. Does anyone know of any places to have fun down there. Or do I have to go to Guadalajara to have fun?
Thanks.
Does anybody know of a good online service to meet University girls from GDL or Morelia.
I want to post an add for a travel companion…
Looking for more of a GF experience with a great Spanish and English speaking woman who would like to enjoy travel to some great exotic Latin locations with a great guy…
Any suggestions would be appreciated…
-Max
The former Yupi.com is now comunidaddelamor.match.com and is bustling with latin women worldwide. Unfortunately the cost has gone up to typical Match.com prices, but it is one avenue to find non-professional women. I have met several from there and it is a great resource. You get better response rates there than on US sites. Good luck.
Hello everybody, i have been a user of the guide since 98, but it's the first time I've posted. I live in Guadalajara and i pretty much know how to move in the city, I can help you in any questions you might have about the places to go in the city, I also have several contacts in the massage parlors, and I also could give you a tour of the strip clubs, Anything you wanna do.
All you have to do is send me an e-mail at rockdriguez@hotmail.com with the subject as Guadalajara, I'm a native of this city and you know that is an advantage when you visit a city.
i'll post a review of a girl in my next post
Thanks Dylock...
Ran the web site with the ie auto translator and I could actually understand 98% of it...
The city specific selection was prety limited... e.g. morelia, gdl...
Are there any sites that specialize in gdl? or is it just not the way latinas go about looking...
-Max
Went to Nuevo Galeon last night, not a lot of girls, beers are 40 pesos for yourself, for the girls 70, I just wanted to chill a bit, but this girl came by to offer me a lap dance. I said no thank you, but she said down, real frendly, her name was Sandra, said she has only been working for 3 weeks, she was an 8. We chat a little bit, and after she offer me to go up-stairs. I asked how much, she said 350 pesos for EVERYTHING. I said good deal.
We went upstairs, she gave me a bbj, which was really good, she got undress and ask me if I want to use the rubber, I said hell yeah. She moved ok, we lasted 3 songs, there was no rush.
Girls lately at the Galeon are frienlier than before.
Was in Gdl last weekend and went to Kaos and it totally sucked. If you are looking to go to a place that is designed to suck money out of your pockets, then this is the place to visit. Everybody has their hand out for tips, the private dances are completely lame and it is a waste of time.
If you are looking to spend $200 to get a hand job in some cappy room, then this place is for you. I have visited several of the esteticas and they are a lot better values and a much more enjoyable and relaxing experience.
Also the girls at Kaos are also not friendly. They immediately want you to buy them $650 peso ($65 USD) jarros or pitchers of drinks which they can finish within two drinks. My friend totally go hosed on these drinks and then went to a private room with a girls where nothing happened. Some of the girls are OK, but the majority are within the 6-7 range. Waiters are also annoying with their hands out - I watched my friend get followed by six waiters as he went with a girl for a private dance and each one wanted a tip.
My advice - visit the esteticas and if you are into the club scene, save your money and go to Buenos Aires where the girls are much hotter and about 1/4 of the price.
However, Guadalajara is a beautiful city with great food, nightlife and tons of hot, non-pro women. I will visit Gdl within the next month and I met a taxista that said he knew of some semi-pros that can make visits during the days only because they still live at home. I will follow-up with a report for next time.
TJ Max,
I don't know of any GDL-only sites, but that is an interesting question. Maybe a search on Spanish Yahoo would turn up some classifieds. There are also mail order bride sites all over the internet, but again, that is not localized.
Thanks for the info Dylock....
Seems like i have reached the city limits for research... :)
Time to start turning all the info into a plan....
You guys have been great.... great info... great attitude....
The only area I am still looking into are the names and locations of the disco's where the university girls hang out in GDL and Morelia...
Any and all help would be appreciated...
-Max
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dylock
[i]TJ Max,
I don't know of any GDL-only sites, but that is an interesting question. Maybe a search on Spanish Yahoo would turn up some classifieds. There are also mail order bride sites all over the internet, but again, that is not localized. [/i][/QUOTE]
Tj Max,
I went to one disco with my ladies but I can't remember the name. If I can, I will let you know later. It was cool.
I do know that Bali Bar in Zapopan is pretty good. This is where I met my aforementioned ladies (one of whom I am still enamored with). It is a bar with great live bands. Just don't go on weekdays because it is a sausage-fest. Fridays are good though with much tail.
Good luck.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] estetica
2934 lazaro cardenas
guadalajara, mx
3122-4918
a little over an hour ago, i pulled my limp, sticky, condom-covered dick from the wet pussy of alejandra at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] estetica. the smooth thighs that engulfed that wet pussy were quivering as were mine. let me tell you some details of this encounter. i hope to be as informative as possible about this so that when you go, you will feel as if you had been there before.
this was my second trip to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] so obviously i liked it the first time about 5 months ago. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is on lazaro cardenas at the intersection of chapilta (sp?). looking at a generic map, it’s on laz cardenas between lopez mateos and mariano otero. the next big round about walking toward lopez mateos away from mariano otero is where it is. if you are walking on the south side of the street it’s before you get to the big roundabout. there’s a small 10-12 car carpark in front of it with a guy that guards your car while there and would love to wash it while it’s there for a tip. walking toward the door, you here the electronic magnet lock click to allow you to open the door. directly in front of you is the reception desk. there were two men sitting there when i came in and they will ask what you want. they speak fairly good english but speak slowly so they understand. when i got there, there were 4 people ahead of me. take a seat on one of the 5 green leather love seats. there are plenty of mexican newspapers rep001tered about and a tv playing mexican soap operas to take your mind off the deed you are about to do. it’s air-conditioned with an extra fan blowing to help out. it’s quite comfortable in the waiting room. occasionally one of the chicas comes out to cash in her takings. the best seat to take is one of the 2 love seats on your right as you walk in. you get the best view of the tv, but better yet, the door to heaven is on your right as you sit. they sometimes open it for extended periods of time and you can watch the girls parade by as they audition for the newest customer. it gives you a good idea of whom you might want when your time comes up.
ok, it’s show time. one of the gentlemen up front takes you back to the room. mine was to the right and fairly good-sized, about the size of a large hotel room. there is a jacuzzi, about 5’ x 5’, across the room. a full bath, toilet and shower are on the other side. a large mirror hangs on the wall next to the bed. a wooden pedestal bed with a 2 foot mattress is what you sit on, clothed, for the girls to come in and introduce themselves to you. i had the choice of 8 girls. there were at least 4 other customers in there at the time so i guess there were probably 12-14 girls there on a monday afternoon at 5:00. each girl comes in and tells you her name. when you see one you might want to do, have her repeat it and repeat it back to her. that way you blaze her name in your upper head, although your lower head is doing the thinking right now. i chose alejandra since i like thinner legged girls with large breast and a pretty face. there were all types to choose from so if your taste aren’t like mine, don’t despair, they have them all.
alejandra walked in and asked me to “disrobe”. i had already pre “disrobed” so i could get right in on it. i was asked to lay on my stomach while she lathered her hands with baby lotion. the massage was average, more like a rub-down. whenever my wandering hands were able to come in contact with dress or flesh, i took advantage of it. when she asked me to roll over, she “disrobes”. most of the massage turns to the groin area at this point. a slow hand job followed by a bit of titty fucking and then some ball sucking. on goes the raincoat and the blow job starts. i stopped her at the critical moment. having played with her tits, legs and pussy, she climbs onto the table to mount you on top. here’s where she needs a little help as the table is barely wide enough for me so hang onto a cheek to keep her from falling off the table. shouldn’t be that hard to do, now should it. pumping for several minutes with the appropriate moans and groans, while watching the action in the mirror, makes me lose the load. could have done a few more positions but i questioned the size of the bed. alejandra has one of those porn star bodies. long legs, small beautiful round ass, size d natural boobs and blonde highlighted hair, with a really pretty face, great straight teeth, full lips and perfect complexion. watching the mirror you kinda have one of those out of body experiences.
the place is perfectly clean. the choice of girls was good as well as plentiful. the action in the rooms suited my requirements so i give this place a full recommendation. two thumbs up. 4 out of 5 stars. the cost was 900 pesos, 90usd.
after taking a long hot shower and drying off with a full sized bath towel, i left and decided to check out the surrounding area. crossing the street (2 lanes, a median, and 2 more lanes), turning right, you walk about two blocks and the estetica “jovi” is on your left. coming from the direction i just did, be prepared for a dog about the size of a small horse to leap out at you from behind his fence. you know you are close. there was only one car in the carpark and i didn’t go in. it seems to be much smaller than [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], and judging the book by the cover, i didn’t have a good feel for the place. i reversed my direction and passed [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] on the other side of the street. went around the roundabout and about two blocks down is estetica “high class”. it has an arched entrance of green and yellow balloons. looking in the door, i saw some damn fine legs and 2 other good looking girls. didn’t go in since i’d blown the load just 15 minutes ago and my recovery time is a little longer. i will return there, matter of fact, i may go there as soon as i file this report as i feel life down there in the old member as he thinks of his last experience.
hope this helps,
bone
bone,
read our reports on high class. several reports from jan and feb. i paid 450 and 550 pesos. someone reported 650. i think each girl sets her own price and it is negociable. but once you have paid a girl a certain amount, she will expect the same the next time - if you like doing the same woman several times during your stay. high class is definitely cheaper than [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and to me, the girls were the same quality.
also the "routine" is pretty much up to you. the whole massage thing can be avoided and you can get down to work immediately if you like. everyone knows why you are there. but it´s usually worth it to let her work on you a little - cost is the same. but don´t go and pay 800 or 900 at high class. the cutest girl can be had for 550. sometimes it is better to ask the price right up front at the desk. once your pants are off, you have lost all bargaining power . . . along with the power to think . . .
good luck and report back . . . p
bone, thanks for the great report it all sounds great except the price. i assume the 900 pesos was for an hour session.i have been at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] twice and each time it was 450 pesos for a half hour and 650 pesos for an hour.i have also been to high class twice and the prices were 350 and 550.these visits were all about 18 months ago. i prefer high class,but both places are better than anything stateside. i prefer high class because [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] gets much more traffic and this definitely affects the selection and waiting times.the rooms are much nicer and more modern at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] if that matters to you.the girls seem younger and more gfe at high class imhop. the price is also important. maybe with the economy slow the esteticas are charging more,i hope not but that is the mexico mentality.i also recommend jet set ,it is at 2071-a ave mexico near the intersection with chapultepec.same prices of 450 and 650 with 6-8 girls,nice house with parking in the rear.met a girl from hermosillo hear and took her out twice for dinner and free sex,she was staying at the aurora suites and working at jet set for a month .usually it takes 2 visits but i have had good success in getting dates outside the esteticas with these ladies and have never offered or payed them.especially when they are from another town which is normally the case.also,when visiting a new estetica i always tell them i only want a half hour "complete service" ,when i get in the room with her i get more specific about what i want and also check out her body,if you like what you see and her attitude they will always be more than happy to upgrade you to the full hour. the negative with esteticas is that you can't check out there bodies beforehand,this helps with that negative a little.buena suerte,renegade
i'll be in gdl for four nights 6/3 thru 6/7. plenty of experience in the country but never been to this city. i have the first three nights "free" (no marginal cost anyway) at the hilton and am looking for a hotel recommendation for night 4. hotel francés has been recommended but how much does it cost? any other recommendations for $35-$40 us? i'll be back in gdl for one night only at the end of the month and so i'd like to stay in the same place both nights if i can. less brain damage that way.
i'll probably try [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] during the day and nuevo galleon sounds good at night. any new updates? anyone going to be there at the same time? my spanish is pretty good and i am street smart so if there are any recommendations off the beaten path, that would be good.
thanks.
dh,
try www.hotelfrances.com. prices $55-$70. i stayed in one of their suites and it was very nice. large and with a great bathroom and only a couple bucks more. a little noisey at night with a disco downstairs. lots of charm . . .
make sure to check out high class. only a block from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and you will save $20-$25 a pop. i have never found a reliable sw area. they must exist somewhere. street girls are available next to nuevo galleon, but were neither cute nor cheap. for me, the esteticas are the ticket. really, they are friendly *****houses where you can usually choose between 3 and 10+ girls and pay $35-$90 for an hour session. try several and report back. as you can tell, although i´m not poor, i am cheap and like value for the money.
good luck - p
yep, high class is on my list. i think i meant high class when i wrote [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. high class seems to have a bit better reviews. i suppose i could try them both and report.
i don't want to pay quite that much for the hotel, though. after three nights at the hilton i can down scale for a night and i have to get up early anyway to catch the bus to pv. but i don't really want to stay at a hotel out by the bus station cuz it's a ways out of town and i don't think there's any action out there.
dh,
also be aware that there are no esteticas in the downtown district. my favorite, valentinos closed about a year ago. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], high class and several others are in a residential area about 30 or 40 blocks from the cathedral. too far to walk. take a bus or cab.
nuevo galleon is walkable - maybe 15 blocks or so, but late at night it is a little spooky. didn´t bother me but opinions vary. tell us if you like the place. i didn´t. very loud. lots of smoke. girls stripping on a semi-dark stage (huh?). but i noticed several backroom areas - private dance rooms. and an upstairs where i think there are rooms for serious business. if you like the hustle of a strip club, maybe it will work for you. but it will cost a lot more.
enjoy, - p
pk: i have been researching this morning and the hilton isn't downtown. it is in the hotel district near the plaza del sol. that is west of town ( by the expo world trade center) but the hotel is right off lazaro cardenas so i will try to use your bus instructions i copied from a previous post. also i can walk 5 miles with no problem. i always walk a ton on my trips. so i will try high class one day and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] the next.
i have a low threshold for loud, smoky strip bars but i will go to nuevo galleon and drop 500 pesos or so just out of duty to the board. dickhead is the ultimate team player; it comes from having been a utility player my whole career.
hotels seem expensive to me based on my travelocity and orbitz search. $61 isn't so bad if (since) it includes all the taxes so hotel frances is a definite possibility. i get in at 6 am so the first day i will explore downtown and see if i can find some cheaper places on a walk-in and haggle basis, although i don't like to haggle. i have to get used to it though, since i'll be spending 65% of the year in latin america for the foreseeable future. i'll also walk into frances and see if i can haggle a better rate there.
thanks for the info.
Dickhead: There is a hotel named the Mission Carlton on Ave. Ninos Heroes about three blocks from Nuevo Galleon.I have never stayed there and don't know the rates but it is in a good location but not right in El Centro.I have been working and commuting between Guadalajara and the US for four years now.I am currently renting a house in Guadalajara and will be there 6/2- 6/15.Another hotel I have heard good comments about is the Hotel Bosque.You may want to check these out on travelocity.If you have any other questions or I can help you out let me know. The esteticas in Guadalajara are great but the problem is none are opened after 9 PM. Buena Suerte,Renegade
Renegade: I will be there Tuesday morning until Saturday morning. If you want to get together for a beer, backchannel my hot mail account: Richardhead41. Or any other mongers in the vicinity. I am working my way down there right now (but still in the US right now).
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dickhead
[i]Renegade: I will be there Tuesday morning until Saturday morning. If you want to get together for a beer, backchannel my hot mail account: Richardhead41. Or any other mongers in the vicinity. I am working my way down there right now (but still in the US right now). [/i][/QUOTE]
Board was down while I was in GDL. I had two sessions at High Class, both very good. First with Andrea, give it a 6, good attitude, mestizo tending towards India, short, lots of curly black hair, big aereolas, firm ass cheeks, two kids but no C-scars and not fat, 23 years old. Took it and liked it. No bullshit involved, no pressure, place itself gets a high rating, clean, etc.
Then Nuevo Galleon. Loud and dark but not particularly smoky. Good as far as a strip club goes. One 70 peso beer gets you all you can touch until the beer is gone. Not too much pressure although some. Everyone´s gotta make a living. Made an appointment for the next day with a Dominicana; she said there was her and one Panameña and the rest were Mexicanas. Gave her a time to meet me at my hotel and told her I would wait thirty minutes and no more. Waited forty and she didn´t show so I went to High Class again.
This session was better. Diana or Reyna, whatever you prefer. Very nice looking, 7.5 in my book and very cooperative and INTO IT. Wanted to cum and did and it was a very good session. I like this place.
I did have a message from the Nuevo Galleon girl when I checked out the next day but staff was too lame (Hotel Francés, not really recommended as very loud and no AC for 550 pesos = marginal value) to say when it was from.
Your loyal servant,
Dickhead
Oh yeah, both sessions at High Class were 450 pesos plus I tipped 50 since they DIDN´T ASK for a tip.
DH,
Didn't think about AC at the Frances Hotel. Have always been there in winter . . .
"Wanted to cum and did . . ." Are you talking about you or her??? Sounds like the price was right. Did they offer you 450 or did you negociate?
-P
More on Nuevo Galleon. No cover charge,40 pesos a beer for you -70 pesos for her.Lap dances are 250 pesos.There is a hotel next store to the bar, I have never taken a girl there but the price is 1,500 pesos for an hour. You pay this at the bar as you exit for the hotel with your girl and the 1.500 includes her fee,bar exit fee,and the hotel room fee.I didn't try to negotiate this price because I wasn't lookin for a date this night. I am sure the price could change depending on the usual supply and demand principals. There were also some comments in the past about this being in a scary neighborhood. It is 2 blocks from a huge new Wal Mart and Pemex station.They are both lit up very well. This is a business neigborhood in the day and the only places open in the evening are the Nuevo Galleon,hotel and another little bar.This is definitely not a scary area in my opinion.I have been there 6 times with no problems. Buena Suerte,Renegade
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Prokofiev
[i]DH,
Didn't think about AC at the Frances Hotel. Have always been there in winter . . .
"Wanted to cum and did . . ." Are you talking about you or her??? Sounds like the price was right. Did they offer you 450 or did you negociate?
-P [/i][/QUOTE]
Well, I always want to come. I meant Reyna wanted to cum and did. The 450 was offered and I did not negotiate. I didn{t think the Francés was that hot with the ceiling fan on, but some Canadians got pissed and left. BTW I thought the beds were good. Next weekend though, I think I will just stay near High Class at this place I saw for 450 pesos, since I don't think I'll go downtown.
Gentlemen,
Visited Guadalajara last Thurs and Friday. Went to High Class on Thursday and there were about 6 of 10 girls not occupied. They introduced me to them and I asked about if there were more. They said they were busy, so I waited for about 15 minutes until I saw another. I decided to make due with what I had already seen. (I saw one 8 in the group so I picked her). Can not remember her name but she had a nice body (clothed) and redish/blond hair. She said she was 24 and had a 9 year boy and a younger daughter. 1/2 hour massage cost me $450 up front. She took the money downstairs and I showered, moved the mirror (so I would be able to see her while I was getting my back massage), and laid down on the table. She came back in, told me 10 minutes massage, then we could have more fun. I asked her to take off her clothes from the start. Her body was a little loose because of her kids, however, she had a great smile and beautiful eyes. After about 10 minutes, I rolled over and got some hand action. She then gave me a pretty nice CBJ. I noticed that because of timing, I needed to move this along. I had her sit on the table with her legs hanging off the side. Her kitty looked a little used and not very tight, but I entered her anyway. I started to pump away when the smell of old fish hit me. My "little buddy" lost interest and there is no getting him interested once it encounters a "fish" market. So I told her that we should just take a shower and get dressed. Once in the shower, she gave me a hand job w/o condom till I got off. Overall - not the best experience.
I left and took a taxi to the Men's club. (around 5:30 pm). Shows were like every 15 minutes. Alot 7-8's walking around or sitting by themselves. The 9's were occupied so I just had a drink and left. Normal drink (normally $3-4 US somewhere else) cost me $11 US with tip.
Will report later about an experience in Jovi (estetica) the following morning. Much better and had a chica rating a 9 to boot!
went to high class again on saturday and had selene. not bad but not as good as the first two times. not as gfe plus i was kinda distracted for some reason. but, it was fine. she is very slender and has no scars, tattoos, or burn marks and definitely does not have the stinky pussy problem the previous poster referred to. again was quoted 450 and gave her 500. i like this place. no hassle, no pressure, just good clean fun. never did make it to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]; maybe next time.
hey gents,
first time to post, but have been an avid reader of the board for years. don’t know why it has taken so long for me to get my ass in gear and register.
anyway, i’ve had many experiences over the years and will do my best to share those that are still relevant.
in gdl every other month or so, so i’ve taken the occasional opportunity to survey the goods here. i agree that gdl has some very beautiful women and what more does a red-blooded man than that to take a sample or two, or ten?
strip clubs-
kaos- have been 3 times. each time have had the typical lap dances (3 for $45 usd) and then went on to have fs upstairs. the first time, to my surprise, the gal(cassandra) offered up the option. didn’t even really know “upstairs” existed, as it was my first time. so i said what the heck and went on up. my buddy was with me as well and the gal he was dancing (mariana) was friends with cassandra so he ended up coming upstairs as well. i figured we were going to have a group thing.
the one on one fee was $250 usd for half an hour, didn’t ask about the group thing. the price seemed steep but with a bac of about .5 and some urging by my buddy, i didn’t really care. besides, the laps were the best i’d ever had. full contact with a little french involved.
basically here’s how the process works:
1.) pay your $250 at the bar downstairs. if you pay by credit card they take id, fingerprint, etc. the name on the credit card slip is something like “guadalajara espectaculos”.
2.) they take you to a “secret” door guarded by a mean looking mexican dude and he opens it up and you and the girl upstairs where there are a couple of other manager types that assign you a room and take drink orders. don’t buy any drinks for yourself or the girl; i’m pretty sure they are about 2x the price when you’re upstairs. i learned that the hard way the first time around.
3.) now you’re in the room. it’s a decent sized room with a bed and a tv, no bathroom though. there’s only one and it’s a larger shared type facility for both men and women.
4.) before you commence, a bus boy will come around and sell you a condom if you don’t happen to have any. i didn’t come prepared so it was another 70 pesos for 2 jimmy hats. the bus boy graciously gave himself a 30 peso tip after i handed him a 100 peso bill.
5.) then it was on. cassandra, a brunette with a nicely trimmed beav, is about a 7-8 until she takes her top off. she’s had a boob job and unfortunately the doctor tore her up pretty good. she’s got a huge scar under each areola that are akin to frankenstein’s scars. without the scars, her melons would look pretty good. anyway, she didn’t rush me or care if i went down on her, a big turn on for me, so i gave the session about a 7.
since the first time, i’ve been back twice. the second time was with mariana, the gal my buddy was with the first time. i call him my blood bother now. mariana is about a 7 as well, slender, nice c cups and a great little ass. my buddy says she let him do her greek, but when i tried to play down there, she wasn’t having it. she also let me daty. her patch is nearly bald and she had a great taste and well formed parts so it was especially exciting. i chowed till she came; “terminar” is what she called it. after that she started in on a little bbbj. i’m not sure what she was doing, but her talent was incredible. if i wasn’t on a budget or time schedule i would have opted for the full oral monty and then went a second round for good ol’ penetration. i give my experience with her about an 8.5. the only way it could be higher is if i wasn’t paying for it.
the last time i was there i asked for mariana again, but she was on vacation. bummer. i had to settle for a new gal, can’t remember her name though. she was about an 8 with a body to match but was less into the whole thing. i had to beg her to let me daty and once she finally gave in i’m sure she didn’t regret it. i gave the session about a 5. mariana is definitely the ticket. if i spoke better spanish i might think about getting her number for some dinner/movie/free action.
just a couple of observations:
out of all the laps i’ve gotten from all the different girls, only one offered the “upstairs” option.
of the three times i’ve been upstairs, there has never been anyone else partaking, except for my buddy the first time.
as everyone else describes, everybody in that place has his or her hand out. it does get annoying.
esteticas-
using tips gained from the board i decided to try out high class last night. this was my first try at a mp in mexico. i grabbed a cab about 6:00 pm and told the older cabby that i wanted to go to high class. he had no clue what i was talking about. i told him that it was an estetica so he went to check with his cabby friends on the 411. he came back a few minutes later and said that we were on our way. not having the address was a mistake. we ended up at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. rather than trying to argue and say that it wasn’t high class, i settled and went on in. there were three guys at the front desk. i never really said anything except hola, como esta and they took me back to the screening room. just like the brochure said, they had a line up of about 8-10 gals. they ranged from about a 4 to 7. i chose leti, about a 6. she had a nice body, cs and a medium back end. from there the “lot boy” took me upstairs to another room and collected the non-negotiable fee of 900 pesos. about three minutes later leti came in and asked me to remove my clothes. i did and she started in on the baby oil massage. started face down and worked her way from the bottom up. she was rushed so there wasn’t much enjoyment in it. once turned over, she basically went straight for the cbj. then she got on the massage table for a little missionary then finished off from behind. she wouldn’t let me play with her love button whilst in the act for some reason. not sure, maybe too personal for her-whatever. for the money it seems like high class is a better option. i might try to give it a go before i leave.
hope this helps out on your future endeavors,
injun bro
Went to this massage parlor on Manzano st. and Montenegro, just behind the Sears store en 16 de Septiembre ave. close to the Nuevo Galeon. The name of the place is Geisha Massage Parlor, average girls, price was 390 pesos for full service, there were like 5 gilrs working it was early on the day around noon and on Monday. So you figure, I picked this blonde girl with the name of Sonia I will give her a 7.5 maybe and 8 the place is clean, she is a realy friendly woman, what stunn me was that she was not wearing any underclothes, once we got to action she told me she is a single mother, but her breast not saggy and her tummy jus a little bit but not really noticible. She gave me a great cbj and down to action did several positions and she kept asking me if I was close to cum so she could stop, because she wanted to cum first, great attitude, I told her if she would go to private parties, and she said yep, I'll try to get her phone number soon.
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In October or November, am going to GDL for the first time, so I really appreciate what you guys have posted. I'll probably spend a week or so there and be able to wander around and explore. There seems to be general agreement that High Class is the best place to start in sampling the esteticas. Dickhead's description of his experience with Reyna sounded good. I do have a couple of questions:
1) Can you bargain with either the desk people or the girl at an estetica?
2) I like being able to talk (when I can get my breath) with the girl I'm with, so I'm wondering whether anyone can recommend a book or website with Spanish words and phrases for getting intimately acquainted and playing and getting it on.
3) DollarBill, you made an interesting comment about a place named Jovi and said you would tell more later. Is there more to tell? Has anyone else been to Jovi?
4) Has anyone else been to GeishaMP, the place near Nuevo Galeon which Rockdriquez described? It sounds as if he had a good time.
Thanks for any comments. This Forum is a great resource.
Deicer
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Deicer
[i] I do have a couple of questions:
1) Can you bargain with either the desk people or the girl at an estetica?[/i][/QUOTE]
In Méjico, you can bargain with anyone, at any time, under any circumstances, for any reason. Bargaining ranks right up there with soccer and baseball as national sports. Now whether you will be SUCCESSFUL in your bargaining is another story.
Tell Reyna 'El Toro Rojo' says hola.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dickhead
[i]In Méjico, you can bargain with anyone, at any time, under any circumstances, for any reason. Bargaining ranks right up there with soccer and baseball as national sports. Now whether you will be SUCCESSFUL in your bargaining is another story.
Tell Reyna 'El Toro Rojo' says hola. [/i][/QUOTE]Reyna sounds like fun. Of course, she was into it for a GFE with you (congrats). I will ask whether she is there, and see whether our chemistry together is good. Will also pass on your warm praise if all goes pretty well, you should get a warm return reception :).
By the way, is there a website where I can download a map of GDJ? I need to get the lay of the land, locate High Class and other spots, and review the directions you guys have previously posted.
I like exploring on foot and by local buses, looking for eye contact, trying to use what little Spanish I know, trying to figure out what's going on, etc.
Deicer
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3) DollarBill, you made an interesting comment about a place named Jovi and said you would tell more later. Is there more to tell? Has anyone else been to Jovi?
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Sorry Deicer - I forgot that I need to write more about my time in Gdl.
Jovi is an estetica about 2 blocks west of High Class.
I stopped by Jovi after my time in High Class (see my last post about High Class). Even though I had just gotten a release in the shower by what’s her face, I figured I would do a little scouting for my next days activity. I walked down the street (on same side as High Class – going west), and entered the establishment. He asked me if I wanted a message or a hair cut. I told him message. He took me into a very nice room / suite with message table, Jacuzzi, and shower. He had all the [b]girls[/b] come in and introduce themselves. The first one in the room was a HOTTY named Daniella. About 10 other girls must have come in also, but I knew this chick was the one. After they left the room, the guy asked me which one I wanted. I said that I had forgotten that I had a meeting (it was a little lie – I went to The Men’s club to see the talent) and that I would come back in the morning. I asked about the time they opened and if Daniella was going to be there. He told me 10 AM and yes, she would be working.
I returned to Jovi the next morning at about 11:30 AM and immediately asked for Daniella. They lead me upstairs and advised me to wait for her to come up. About 5 minutes later, she came in looking very "delicious." She asked if I wanted a regular message (around $400 pesos) or a full service ($850 pesos). Even though I was a little tight on cash that morning, I had enough for that and a taxi. I got the full treatment.
She took off my clothes and I did the same for her. I asked her if she would mind taking a shower with me. She did not have a problem with that but just wanted to keep her face and hair dry. She had her make up on and looking GREAT! I said no problem and got a good soapy message and nice little hand job. I soaped up her breasts and her puss.
We got dried off and moved to the bed. I had her lay down started to play with her pussy. I moved in to help and got to DATY for a while. She then pulled my hips towards her face, placed a rubber in her mouth and put the rubber on with her mouth and continued with a nice little head job. Once I was feeling really good, I moved around and on the table for a little missionary position. This was really nice but was a little difficult staying on the narrow table. She had me lay down and while squatting over me, entered me and did her job very nicely. She was really a beautiful girl. She got me off within 5 minutes of her pounding me. What a puss! Nice and tight and a hot body. If she lost 5 –10 pounds, she could have been one of the hottest strippers in the Men’s club. She had the face and body for it. She was all natural beauty!
I left there with one big smile on my face.
I recommend Jovi and really recommend Daniella. She is about 5’ 4" dark hair, dark eyes, 34 big B - C cup tits, very nice smaller round ass.
Dollar Bill$
I recommend Jovi and really recommend Daniella. She is about 5’ 4" dark hair, dark eyes, 34 big B - C cup tits, very nice smaller round ass.
Dollar Bill$ [/i][/QUOTE]You just put Jovi and Daniella on my to do list, and made me wish I were rolling in there right now.
Has anyone else been to Jovi?
Thanks,
Deicer
Hi, I live in Guadalajara, so I can give information if you need any.
You can find a map of Guadalajara at www.guiaroji.com.mx.
I have read some of you guys like the Nuevo Galeon so I went to try it.
First there was a rat crossing the near door. I consider it a dangerous zone. The place was very dark. I saw a few nice looking girls, but we didn't stay.
I would recommend to you other places like:
-The Men's Club: One of the best places, girls from countries like Hungary, Cuba, Republica Dominicana. Lazaro Cardenas Avenue
-Golden Club, near Howard Johnson hotel. A new place, they have nice looking girls but not so many as Men's Club.
-Candy's Girls. I like this place very much, but I like to go on Friday, because in Saturdays the girls go some other place to have fun on their own.
I'd try to avoid Kaoz. I think it's very hostile environment. Everybody asks you for tips, and there have been cases of guys beaten by the bouncers.
recently went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. they wanted 900 pesos for an hour with a girl. i had to catch a plane, didn;t have a lot of time so i said 800. they would not budge so i said fuck it and did the deed. nice looking girl, fake tits, ok massage and ok lay. i hate those damn massage tables. anyway, it had been about a year since i had been there and i think that the prices have doubled and that the quality of the girls is not quite as good. i think too many gringos know about it know so i guess that i will try high class next time and will give a full report.
also, a taxista gave me the number of two younger (18-20) girls that are supposed to be hot and will do the deed for $700 pesos at your hotel. he said that they are married, but do it on the side during the days so there husbands/boyfriends will not find out. said that they were from the campo and did a good job. will try next time i have more time and publish the number if it is worthwhile.
I arrived in Guadalajara on Tuesday July 15, 2003 and stayed at the Mission Carlton Hotel at Av. Ninos Heroes No. 125. The hotel is “first class” with fine food and great service. Most of the staff speaks English. Also, the hotel does not allow visitors to your room after 8 PM or so, especially if your lady guest looks “professional.” Using tips and information gained from this board, I decided to try out the “Estetica High Class” in the late afternoon. This was my first try at a massage parlor in Guadalajara. I grabbed a cab about 4:00 PM and told the cabby that I wanted to go to the “High Class Estetica.” He looked puzzled so I gave him the address on Lazaro Cardenas and he still had no clue what I was talking about. I wrote the address on a note pad and after the cabby read it, decided to give it a try. We found that the No. 2934 address given in previous posts was a garage and house. Luckily, High Class was across the street from this address. On arrival, I obtained a business card (tarjeta de negocio) from the desk manager. The real address is:
High Class Estetica
Lazaro Cardenas No. 2913
Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
Tel: (01 33) 3122-0540
One of the girls (Reyna) took me back to the screening room and a parade of 10 great looking women introduced themselves with their name. There were so many pretty women it just blew my mind. For the life of me, I couldn’t remember any of their names when it came time to choose. I would rate all of them between 5 and 9. I had to go into the office area to make my final choice. After careful consideration and reviewing what was said on previous posts, I chose one of the more mature women, Maira (a 7 in my book). She is 30 years old, very pretty with a nice slim body, B tits, great nipples, no scars, and a firm (tight) rear end. In conversation I found out she was divorced, had 3 kids ranging from 6 to 11 years of age, and appeared well educated. We agreed on 750 pesos for the hour (tip included). She came in after I showered and asked if I wanted something to drink (I accepted the invitation and asked for a Pepsi).
We both disrobed and asked me lay face down on the table. She started in on the baby oil massage and worked her way over me from the top down. She was not rushed and a lot of teasing occurred around by thighs, balls, and ass. She took my hand and rubbed against her very wet pussy several times. Her pussy tasted great. She must have known I was very interested in her because I asked very direct questions about her life and education. I tried to get to know her a little, thus making the mental tie that I was not just interested in fucking her, but wanting to “make love” to her. I treated her with the utmost respect and kindness. As we started, I starred into her brown eyes. She then became very compassionate, and me likewise. As we started, her response was in the way she touched and stroked me all over.
After giving me a BBBJ for a while, she slipped on a condom and really went to town bringing me to peak and then slowing or stopping. I asked her in Spanish if she liked oral sex and she replied “Si.” Maira then planted her wet dripping pussy right on my face. Pressing hard and rotating her hips in all directions, she just couldn’t get enough of my tongue. It seemed as if I had her whole pussy in my mouth. She really went ballistic when I teased her anal area with my tongue. When she came, her whole body shuddered and she moaned passionately. She was dripping with sweat and after cooling a bit, she hopped on top and proceeded to fuck my brains out. We did several positions with the last being “doggie style.” I came (mucho esperma) filling the condom pretty well. After I got a little soft, I pulled out, but the rubber came off. Maira skillfully pulled the soaking wet condom from her tight pussy, tied it in a knot, examined its contents, and announced “uno litro.” We laughed a bit, and showed again together, cleaning each other off.
I would rate this experience a solid “9” with a great young woman who truly knew how to take care of her customer. When I return to Guadalajara, I will surely seek her out again. I hope any who visit here has the same (or better) experience.
I'm going to Guadalajara on the 21st of August and had a few questions to ask. First of all, is it pretty easy to hook up in Guadalajara? Do the girls there find particlarly more interest in Americans? I've heard in some countries Americans get the royal treatment. I was wondering if this is true in Guadalajara and the surrounding areas? One last thing, where would be the first place you would go if you went to Guadalajara?
Thanks guys!
MLover
Sounds like the same Maira I did there several times in January. Thought she was great. But try to hold the line on prices. With so many reports that High Class costs between 450 and 550, you went a little high at 750 pesos.
Montana,
The girls have more interest in Americans only if you promise to marry them. Good luck. And read all the previous reports . . . thats why we post the info.
Peace, -P
proko coulnd't agree with you more on holding the prices down at the mp's in guadalajara. you can actually walk between high class,[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and jovi mp's ;review all the girls available and get there prices and return to the one you prefer in 20 minutes that is how close they are on lazaro cardenas. i think i was the first guy to post on high class so don't make me regret it. another mp i saw recently is luigis at lopez cotilla 1882.i have never been there so can't recomend,but maybe a fellow monger can check it out.proko- i have dated many different women in mexico without the promise of marriage.americans are very popular with women here in guadalajara,and i have found them very approachable.like all places some are looking for husbands,but there are many just wanting to go out and have a good time. there is a shortage of women to men in guadalajara,according to my friends here.i am talking abot amateurs of course. maybe your experiences with mexican women has been different.also interesting is that friends i know in there thirties all talk about how much more permiscuos the 18 & 20 year olds are now in guadalajara.buena suerte,renegade
Montana:
I think all girls in Gdl think different. Maybe you can find someone who is particularly interested in you because you are american, buy I think that most of the time girls want good looking or fun guys, american or not. There can be some girls who may discard you just because you are "gringo".
But if you go to the strip bars and massage parlors, you will surely get a good treatment because of your dollars.
I recommend a small downtown bar called "Meridiano 60", maybe you can find some promiscous young ladies there, or "La Copa de Champagne" for thirties-ladies who are promiscous too.
And you can ask me about prices.
High Class price is $450, don't pay more than that.
Correction to last post. There is a shortage of men for the available women in Guadalajara. Buena Suerte,Renegade
When you guys go to the MP's do you ever skip the massage and tell the girl that you want to get straight to business. Sorry if this sounds dumb but I'm new to this scene. My buddy told me that he's never really gooten a good massage from any of the MP's.
It depends on the place, there are some MP where the girls do a lousy job and they have no knowledge about giving a massage.
And there are some places where the girls have studies on reflexology and some kinds of massage. For example the estetica that used to be named "Zeus" (no sign on the door) in Vallarta avenue near Fiestamericana hotel.
I met a girl named Dafne in "Diamonds", who was wonderful. She used to give me an almost 1 hour massage rubbing my feet, my butt, and after that, BJ. It's a shame she got married. (I miss her).
And another girl at the same place gave me a lousy massage, so I cancelled the whole thing. I payed only the massage and I left.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Montana Realty
[i]When you guys go to the MP's do you ever skip the massage and tell the girl that you want to get straight to business. Sorry if this sounds dumb but I'm new to this scene. My buddy told me that he's never really gooten a good massage from any of the MP's. [/i][/QUOTE]
I always do that and I've never had any problems with it. I am not interested in massage as it aggravates my neck problem.
If you have reasonable skills and good hands, I suggest that you give HER a massage on the table. A lot of guys do this, although very few do it well. The advantage is that you can easily check out the girls body without her becoming nervous or embarassed. All body parts are yours. And if you are good at it and put in a decent amount of time, at least 15 minutes, you can have her relaxed and purring like a kitten. Trust me, she will get more pleasure from the massage than anything you are going to do with your dick - despite all the moaning and fake orgasms. It also gives you a good time to chat with her and get some sort of friendship going.
Most women will respond to this and pay you back big time. Also the time you spend working on her usually doesn't count - the meters not running. Although that depends on the place and whether it's busy. A good way to extend the session and please the girl. Develop some skills and put some real effort into it. Worth it
Peace, -P
Dickhead:
So what's the best way to do this? What do you tell them?
Prokofiev:
Thats a great idea. I need to learn to give some great massages, would definitely pay off with the ladies.
:)
I say, "Con respeto no necesito masaje y prefiero empezar con las relaciones." (Respectfully) I don't need a massage and would prefer to start the sex. Or I say "El masaje no me interesa mucho." Massage really doesn't interest me. Then they usually just start with the blow job.
I am arriving in GDL on September 26. I have been trying to make appropriate plans while there. Hopefully, I can add something meaningful to the previous posts. If you have anything recent or particularly helpful.
Thanks to all of those who have submitted reports. GDL sounds magnificent!
Hello Everyone, sorry it has been a while...
I just returned yesterday from a 2 month long trip to beautiful Mexico and I am much closer to realizing my dream / goal of living full time in Mexico. I was able to get a house south of Guadalajara in a smaller sized town. The town has a "table dance" club but it is horrible and not worth mentioning. Thankfully I only wasted $80 USD before realizing how bad it was. So I will spare you the details of that dreary dump.
But I do have a travel update and a very positive report on High Class Estetica in Guadalajara.
High Class, as many of you have reported on here, is at 2913 Lazaro Cardenas between the streets of Lopez Mateos and Mariano Otero. My taxi driver had some trouble figuring out where it was with just the physical address. The cross streets were extremely helpful.
It was my last day in Mexico and I got a late start in the day due to a lot of last minute events in Mexico (including picking up my nationalized truck's insurance at the insurance office and getting a final chance to see a cute chica there who I bought the insurance from... ;)
I arrived to the airport in Guadalajara exactly 3 hours before my flight and checked in my bags and saw that I had a little over 2 hours left before my flight left. So I went ahead with the plan to go to High Class and I took a cab from the airport to High Class. It is not that far, but it did take about 20 to 25 minutes to get there from the airport. For those of you traveling via bus, it would probably take 15 to 20 minutes in the taxi from the bus station. For those pinching the pesos, you could probably figure out how to catch a local "Pesero" city bus from the central bus station area that costs about $3 pesos (currently about 27 cents US) that will take you down Lazaro Cardenas but it would take a lot longer than 20 minutes.
So I arrived to High Class in great timing and went in and I was whisked away quickly by a young woman named Jazmine. She took me down a hall, through a door, past some legitimate looking haircut stations with wash basins and had me sit down and told me the lowdown on the services.
I was told that for $500 pesos I could have 30 minutes with a woman of my choice for massage and sex. This is $50 higher than previously posted but it seemed very rehearsed so I guessed that the prices had changed (inflation and the recent devaluation of the peso). She also told me that I could have a "double" for $1000 pesos and have the woman for the entire hour. She noticed my carry-on luggage and I told her I was heading out so that the 30 minute service was fine.
As others have posted on here, I was asked if I wanted to have the service with her or see the girls first and I agreed. She had the available women come in one by one and briefly introduce themselves. There was a wide range of women, a few blondes, many brunetes. A few very attractive women and some that looked a little "weather beaten", but probably the most "fun". I ended up staying with Jazmine, though there were a few girls more attractive than she is.
Anyway, the session was great... We went upstairs to an available room (It was about 4PM and it was not busy) and she asked me if I wanted anything to drink. I was thirsty and asked for a coke and she told me to undress and she would be back in a moment. I undressed and waited on the table. They are basically raised "slabs" of cement with tile on them with a cushion and a hospital style fitted sheet on them. It was not uncomfortable, but it was very spartan. She returned and I drank some soda and lied on my stomach and the massage began...
After a few minutes (the massage wasn't great though I sure could have used one for my neck and legs) I started to reach back and touch Jazmine and she removed her towel and exposed a very beautiful, young body and proceeded to ask me if I wanted to proceed with the "relaciones" part of the "massaje" and I said "Si, gracias"...
She proceeded to do a covered BBJ with a condom I brought from the U.S. instead of the cheapo Mexican condoms these places tend to have (I like Lifestyles condoms -- never had one break and they feel pretty good). After a little of that she changed positions and started to ride me hard... it was very nice and she had a good rhythm to her movements but she was a bit rough on the ride. That and the padding not being as thick as a mattress may have been what affected me. Anyway, I just held her on me and ground into her and she got the message and just continued grinding her hips gently and passionatly into mine... very nice indeed!
After doing this for a little while, we switched to "estilo perrito" and finished off in the missionary position. I made very sure not to put too much weight on her and she did seem to appreciate that. I'm not super heavy, but I have been eating more quesadillas and tacos than I usually do. We finished a little before the half hour was up and I was very surprised to see that there was a shower there with a sink as well. I thought they may not have hot water but Jazmine told me they did so I showered with Jazmine and we talked a little bit and I found out that she was 22 years old!!! I knew she was young, but not that young. I asked if she had any kids and she said she didn't. Her body was very nice and her tits were natural C's...
I didn't offer her a tip and she didn't ask for one either. I'm not "cheap" but I am conscious that we need to maintain the prices or they will go way, way up. I did tell Jazmine that I would be back and though she may not remember me when I got back that I would remember her if she was still there. She told me I would probably forget her, but I won't. I just hope she is still around for when I get back. I asked her, somewhat jokingly, if I were to come to the estetica once a week if she would forget me and she laughed and smiled and said, "no...". I told her that I didn't expect her to remember my name because of so many clients that come in, but that I would try to "jog" her memory next time I was there if she was around and available.
And so I asked her for one more thing. I needed a taxi and I asked if they could get a taxi for me. She said she would go and stop a cab for me and asked me to get dressed and be down for the taxi. She went down and came back up quickly and told me she had stopped a taxi but saw that I wasn't ready and said she would stop another one. I got down the stairs and a taxi had arrived to bring a client in but that he was paid to wait for the client to "finish". Unfortunately this taxi didn't have a radio in his car for some reason but he went outside to hail a cab for me while I waited inside. Jazmine invited me to sit down on the couch and wait and I sat there and it was a strange experience after having had some passionate sex to be sitting amongst the "working ladies". But Jazmine soon sat next to me and we talked a little as I finished my coke. I made a few light jokes and looked at my watch and hoped that a taxi would stop. Apparently there is a glorieta very close to this estetica and the taxis coming through there don't tend to stop in front of this place.
Fortunately, I got a cab and then said bye to Jazmine and the girls and left. I made it back to the airport in plenty of time and didn't even have my carry on luggage searched. I know I had a "perma-smile" on my face from Jazmine and all I could think during the taxi ride back to the airport and walking around in the airport was Jazmine's nice butt, tits and face and big brown eyes... She was definitely a nice image to have in my head for the flight back.
My only regret... I didn't go to High Class at the start of my trip! I hope to be a repeat customer. It only costs me $8 USD to catch a bus from the small town to Guadalajara and once I figure out the city bus system I hope it won't cost much more than another 1 USD to get to the Estetica and back via bus. And with the $500 peso fee (about $45 USD) the total cost for my "adventures in latex" would be about $62 USD. I also hope that if I do end up going a few times a month (probably not once a week, but who knows?) I would get some "extended sessions" if I go during their "off" times. I will let you know.
I have definitely spent a LOT more money on chasing after women in the "standard" way and come up with nothing. Eventually I hope to have a girlfriend and be in Miller's condition :) But in the meantime when I get back to Mexico I will be making lots of regular trips via bus to Guadalajara.
Anyone have any suggestions for decent restaurants near High Class?
I hope to return to Mexico sometime in February 2004 to stay for at least 8 to 10 months :) Hasta pronto!
El Mojado
EL Mojado,
I recently returned from a trip to Puerto Vallarta which is about 4 hours drive to the coast - big tourist town. There I met a young woman from Guadalajara and boy was she smoking.
But not to digress - I wanted to ask your opinion regarding the cost of land/housing in the greater Guadalajara region. I'm thinking that I'd like to one day (soon) retire and move to Mexico where I can buy about 20-30 acreas of land, build a small ranch and live out my charro (mexican cowboy) fantasy. I'm totally clueless about the cost of real estate so hopefully you can help.
Please contact me via the WSg Forum's Private Messaging system.
Also for those interested - in PV I stopped by two titty bars... ended up taking two brasilian sisters from Prestige for $300US for a short time for me and a friend. Was fun but if you want brazilians. Go to Brazil!
I thought I should add my report on Guadalajara although it has been about 6 months since the last time I was there.
The Men's Club is definately the best t & a club, I have had two girls lap dancing and doing lesbian stuff right on top of me. The service/atmosphere is first class, the talent is incredible and international and all of the liquor is top shelf. They also take credit cards for everything so you can run up a big bill if you are so inclined. The girls will go out after they close but it can be costly and of course that can be pretty late at night. I tried one of the escort services listed in the Yellow Pages under "estetica", I called a couple but settled on the first one with the largest ad. They told me that a girl matching my request would be delivered to the corner across the street from my hotel in 30 minutes and they were right on time. I paid the driver and walked into the hotel as if she was my girlfriend...no problem. She was dressed like a business woman and in we went.
We had a great time for about two hours, it cost about $150 and we did it every which way. Luckily I had stocked up on the little blue diamond pill so I was ready to go over and over, these are good but the new one Levitra seems better. A little easier on the cardio sysytem it seems and costs about the same and lasts about 36 hours!! (of course I don't know that for a fact) Guadalajara is my kind of town!
Hey Gimmedub, yes, the latina women in Puerto Vallarta are quite hot... Anyway, I tried to send you a message via the private messaging system but you have it shut off so I could not send you anything. I saved it in text format so when you get it turned on (go into the options section of the User Control Panel) I can send it out to you. Mine is now turned on (it was off before) so you can send me a message to let me know you are ready to receive it.
The Junior's Table Dance bar in PV is expensive but tends to have better women. The other one next to it is cheaper and if you climb the stairs instead of arrive by taxi you do not have to pay a cover charge (at least that is how it was 2 years ago or so, but it probably has changed). I think that is your reward for climbing up a god-awful number of stairs. My brother and I went there that time and we called it "The House of the Rising Stairs"... They charge less for "take out" than Juniors, but it is still a lot of $$$. It is cheaper from what I've read on here to just have them there onsite. Anyway, PV is expensive... After having gone to High Class for $45 USD most places are going to be Expensive. ;)
Hey, regarding that Rancho you want to make in Mexico... too bad a bunch of us from here cannot get together to make our own "brothel"/"Table Dance" / "Estetica" for ourselves and U.S. tourists! (For WSG Mongers) Shoot... we could even teach the ladies English! Now that would be something I would be willing to invest in :) ;)
El Mojado
Hi everyone.
I am visiting GDL for the first time next week. I have read reports about High Class and other spots, and am looking forward to checking it out, and reporting back.
Are there any other locations I should hit? I'm not really looking for dance bars, or specator sports, but more for available ladies who are interested. Not speaking Spanish is a limitation for me, I know. I wil locate High Class Estetica, and that part of town. I am staying out in Tlaquepaque. Are there any areas I should check out in that part of the area? Does a taxi into GDL make the most sense, or is the bus just as fast and reliable?
I've heard that GDL is safe on the streets, and crime is low compaired to most cities in the country. Correct? Can I operate with dollars, or should I change into the local currency?
Any help would be appreciated.
El mojado,
I pm'd you but still no answer :( - you're probably down in GDL rounding up some beautiful girls for your stable! When you do read this drop a line, please send me a PM.
Hi all:
I'm going to Guadalajara for the first time too in 2 weeks. I'm into the SW scene... any ideas where I can find women in the streets, particularly in the daytime... markets, park, throughfares, etc? Any help would be great!
PeterPaul.
World Wise: Do NOT operate with dollars. Not speaking Spanish will be enough of a limitation and operating with dollars will just tattoo "Rip Me Off" on your forehead. Furthermore there is no need to operate with dollars as ATMs are widely available. If you are flying in, use the ATM at the airport and not the money changers.
Well, friends in carnal desires, some facts, observations and comments about the city of Guadalajara.
$ always means peso, unless otherwise specified!
Work left me exactly one day for tourist stuff - including the exploration of local talent, a Sunday. So I decided to first pay a visit to a location that has often been mentioned on this board, High Class Estetica. Things were as previously described, I was led into a small room by a lady, that looked like the archetype of many of the women you see on the street in Guadalajara - latin with quite some indio in her, black hair, dark tan skin, a very feminine figure packed into a bit too narrow jeans. Lorena. She explained the options: $ 450 about half hour, one pop, $ 780 about an hour, 2 pops. That might explain some different quotes some guys have heard, I also have the feeling it helped that I established at the beginning not to be a norteamericano. There might be a two tier (or multi tier) price system. I opted 2 pop.
When she got out of her too tight jeans, it became apparent that those play y vital role in keeping things together. Also, gravity is the natural enemy of the femnale breast. That said - good CBJ, a ride, and finish "estilo gatito". Solid sex, nothing spectacular, definitely no GFE.
After a shower and 10 minutes in a too cold sauna, round 2. I must admit, I overestimated myself, El Alemanito went limp again, but Lorena has a sort of hooker's honour - If a guy pays for twice, he is supposed to come twice. Hard work on her side, but - yes.
Finished, dressed again, she came with my change (I prepaid $ 1000, and she correctly gave back $ 220). As Dickhead previously observed, no tip requested - so she got one.
After dinner, I decided to check out the t&a club scene. not necessarily to get laid again, but to get an idea of "look and feel" of these clubs. I asked a cabby to take me to Men's club. It was closed. According to the driver not because of the Sunday, he said it was always open. He then suggested another place ,"Palm somethoing" - also closed. His third suggetion was a place called "Ramses" - open. Interesting, he never mentioned Kaos. Maybe that place sucks so much that they don't even give decent kickbacks to the cabbies...
Ramses. a rather dark room, maybe 60 * 30, in the middle a long stage / dancing table, decorated like Hollywood's perception of ancient Egypt. Had a 21st century (a.C.) spotlight exatly opposito of me.
Moderately pushy. takes about 5 minutes for three guys to introduce themselves as your waiter, your personal care - taker and I forgot the third one (means: potential tip receivers), another 5 minutes for a girl to sit beside you, and 5 min. more for her to order herself a drink. Prices moderate for that kind of place, $ 40 a beer for you (they come in 3 - packs), $ 130 a ladie's drink, Tequila (who would have thought?) something.
On stage a sequence of admittedly beautiful girls. some really great performances. And, plastic surgeons in this city know their jobs. (I mean it - I played with a pair of tits which were feelable, but certainly not visibly enhanced). You can buy "private dances" - separate room, she sits on you wearing nothing but a g string, your hands wherever you want, theirs squeezing what they get through your pants, $160 - and "very private sessions" for $ 480. This gives you 15 min with the chica of your choice in a room decorated with a nice sofa.
I did not pursue this any farther, because a) it was getting quite late, b) I already had run a significant tab, and c) I had not much confidence in the performance to be expected from Alemanito, considering the afternoon's events. I hope to read ongoing research results soon at this place. If you get what I suppose and would appreciate, a good strategy for the night would be, nurse a beer defending all approaching chicas until you know what you want, buy her one drink and proceed directly into a double or triple time session.
So many facts. Now some observations:
Somebody wrote, that the women of Guadalajara would be the most beautiful of the world. Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, and my eyes are still recovering from an extended stay in Buenos Aires. OK, there are some real beauties on the streets of Guadalajara, but my observation (and I may err) is, that a very frequent vita of a women here goes like this: At age 15 she is a real beauty, with 17, pregnant, with 18 married. Age 25, she has 5 kids, and with 30 she weighs at least twice as much as with 15.
The esteticas provide good service, but they are in my opinion not able to give you anything like a GFE you could have elsewhere. As I said, I am spoiled by Buenos Aires, and beeing there with a club or internet girl for one or several hours in the privacy of your room is in another league. I would thus consider Guadalajara (and maybe Mexico) not as a "mongering destination", especially not for an European, who can find similar (or better) closer to home.
What I missed (or maybe just did not find) was a place to get laid during the night. The esteticas close at 9 pm, and calling an escort service to get a girl I have never seen before is not my thing. The internet addresses I found in the Guadalajare phone book (www.thailand.com.mx, www.caos.com.mx, www.intimoo.com) all don't work.
El Aleman
Aleman,
I can't disagree with any of your observations. From my experience with the esteticas, they will adhere to the 1 pop/ 2 pop rules but not the time limits. I have always paid between $350 and $550 pesos (450 and 550 at High Class) and I never spend less than an hour. Of course if you start banging her immediately, 30 minutes may be her limit. But if you talk a little, get a massage, give her a massage . . . it usually takes 30-45 minutes before anything sexual happens. Depends on if she is busy and how you treat her.
As to attitude and GFE, well the ladies of Buenos Aires have that big time. And I know of no other place that equals it. But you can improve the GFE in Mexico by seeing the same woman a second or third time. They will open up alot more. And you can arrange from them to come to your hotel room. Easy for them because they get off at 9pm (or day shift). But they will get fired if the owner finds out that they are taking HIS money. So she must trust you.
The aging of Mexicanas has been noted and commented upon frequently. And is quite true. Why? Genetics, Mexican food and social customs. Only among the wealthy class will you find older women working hard to keep slim, unlike Europe or BA. And with various amounts of indian blood and a high carb diet, it is a tremendous effort. My best advice . . . enjoy them all!
-P
Prokofiev,
As clearly stated, these were observations made within very limited time, which singled out all the "repeat" and "again" etc. options. Given more time, I certainly would have found some more opportunities, taking out the estetica girls after hours sounds like one.
Also, I could imagine that it might be possible to date strip club girls during their off hours.
El Aleman
I need an answer to an important question ASAP. I would like to travel in January and can go to GDL or to Toronto. Which, in January, would offer the best time and best experience with providers (Strip club, escort, etc)? Anyone with an opinion please PM or post.
Thank you,
Winston
Boxing Rule 222
What is racist about Miller's post? I don't see one word of racism in it. IMO this post you may find racist but personally I don't give a shit. Most mexicans resent Americans because we make more money, and live more comfortably than they could ever dream of. I am sure this post will be removed, but what the hell, it is 100% true.
peter_girth,
I respect your opinion but I enjoy this board and I do not want to see anything happen to it because some "men" enjoy teenagers for companions.
He can keep his thoughts to himself and not jeopardize this wonderful forum.
It is just my opinion.
>I respect your opinion but I enjoy this board and I do not want to see anything happen to it because some "men" enjoy teenagers for companions.
What a load of judgemental BS. For the record, I am 46, my girlfriend is 26. I met her when she was 19 and I was 38 and we have been together, and having sex, for 6 1/2 years. And is just happens that in MY state the legal age of consent for sex is 16 years of age. Meaning if I had been 35 and she had been 16 I probably would have gone for it. Not that the circumstances that brought us together would have been as favorable at that point, it is just for the sake of argument.
The legal age of consent for sex in Mexico is, as I understand, 16 years of age. At least that is what I have read. The same age as in 36 of the 50 United States. Many countries and some of the United States is older, and some it is younger. FL and NC it is a LOT younger. So what is the problem with a fellow having a younger girlfriend? Is it that YOU can only land an old hag and not a sexy young honey 20 years your junior?? Maybe you have a 16 (or 19) year old daugher and can't stand the thought of a grown man sticking his dick in her?? Whatever your hangup about a man having a younger girlfriend it is YOUR hangup, don't pass your baggage on to us.
peter-g,
The age of consent in Mexico is 16, BUT only if both parties are under 18, If you are over 18 and get caught with a 16 year old, your ass is grass.......
guys, i am not an advocate for **** sex, but as an american if i went to another country and banged a girl under 18, i am subject to u.s. laws and prosecution when i return to the u.s. it doesn't matter if the age of consent in the country that i visited was 12! as long as i am a u.s. citizen, i am subject to the laws of the united states.
fyi: www.ageofconsent.com
very informative
go to the chart
(I posted this in the Mexico Info section as well. Although there is no need to defend myself from the one man crusade of "Boxing",I still feel the need to clarify myself to the people who have never read my posts or met me in person)
Wow. Go away for a few days and people are calling for your head! (Or at least one person is).
For the people who know me and have read my posts over the years, I obviously don't need to explain myself. But for "the challenged few" such as Boxing, I would like to make some things clear.
First, having a girlfriend and having a lover are sometimes two different things. I met my girlfriend in a store and I never even suspected that she was 16 until it happened to come up a couple of weeks later. For those who know, Mexican girls often look much older than their age. I was naive about this too until I moved to Mexico. And, as Bill Clinton once said, "I never had sexual relations with that woman." When I found out her age I did everything I could to end the relationship ASAP despite the efforts of the girl and her parents to keep us together. So, you are the perverted one if you just assumed that I was porking this innocent little girl.
Second, I AM of Hispanic ancestry and I speak from first hand experience. The women will almost all tell you here in Mexico that they want an American man who will be less of a sexist than the typical Mexican man. In my three years of living here in Mexico, I've never heard a Mexican woman sing the praises of Mexican men. Does that mean that ALL Mexican men are bad? No. It just means that Mexican men tend to be more traditional with regards to gender roles and many of the modern Mexican women want careers and the sharing of houselhold chores that many American women have. Once again, from first hand experience I can tell you that the Mexican women that I've met find American men more sensitive and supportive. (Although I visit to Mexico from "Boxer" may change their impressions). They may not have had personal experience with American men, but this is their impression. And I have to say that, in general, it is a correct impression from what I've seen. The married men that I know treat their women as maids and the majority have lovers on the side. Is this a racist statement on my part? I don't care because racism is in the eyes of the beholder. I know that I'm not racist against any race, especially hispanics (since I AM a hispanic and I've chosen to live in MEXICO, moron.)
Finally, Boxing, I don't have to answer to you or anyone else. My previous posts speak for me. Obviously you were either too lazy or stupid to check them out. I just feel the need to clarify myself to any other lunk head that chooses to get his panties all in a bunch over some imagined violation. This is the last that I will comment on this because it is a waste of time and space. If anyone should be banned from this board, it should be Boxer for starting a flame war and wasting everybody's time. ( I strongly suspect that Boxer may have had a problem with me before when he used a previous handle and just wanted to lash out at me once again. )
Take care all, Merry X-mas and stay safe.
Despite the lunk heads of the world, I am still:
The Happiest Man Alive :)
miller2k,
since you are of hispanic ancestry that means your dad (according to your racist theory) treated your mother like a bad person. remember this is your theory of personal experience not mine. i pity your mom.
(this is the best one)miller2k stated "i did everything i could to end the relationship asap despite the efforts of the girl and her parents to keep us together." yes i am sure it was hard to break up with a 16 year old baby. lol
a pervert is an old man and a 16 year old period. you used the word girlfriend not i.
if you read my post about personal experiences it is just the opposite. but unlike you i did not post them on this board until i read your racist rhetoric.
miller2k stated "i know that i'm not racist against any race, especially hispanics (since i am a hispanic and i've chosen to live in mexico, moron.)
excuse me did not strom thurmond speak about seperation of the races yet he had a black daughter. hmmmmm.
i think you chose to live in mexico because you have the racist concept that i am better because i am an american. i pity you. what a way to live thinking you are better than others because you are american.
miller2k just for your information i have never met you before or had any problems with you until i read your racist **** post.
you and the michael jacksons in the world stay out of this board please.
>FYI: www.ageofconsent.com
>Very informative
That is a good one, thanks. According to this site the legal age of consent for sex in Mexico is 12. That sounds a little young to me. I would not advise getting caught porking a 12 year old down there. You might end up as someone's girlfriend yourself.
And it looks like Florida has been shamed into raising their legal age up from 12 to 18 (16 if you are under 25), which is a little extreme and out of line with most of the country where it remains 16. Looks like FL is no longer Club Ped, so Boxing Rule will have to find somewhere else to play chicken hawk. How are things going there on Neverland Ranch, BTW. NC remains 13 though, as long as you are no more than 6 years older than your honey and 16 for the rest of us.
And before Reverend Boxing Rule starts calling ME a racist, since all of his other arguments have been exposed for the unalloyed bullshit they really are, I am half Spanish and half Irish, and by girlfriend is African-American.
just fyi, guys, i don't support **** sex either, but if you are a legal visitor to a country (on your passport, etc) you are subject to the laws of that country only unless you are on a us military base or embassy property. for instance, sex work is legal in amsterdam, but not in the most of the us. if you visit a brothel in amsterdam, you aren't subject to solicitation laws in the us! only if you transport a lady under the age of consent in the us (particular state) for the purpose of having sex, you haven't broken any us laws by engaging in sex with her in her country (as long as it was legal there). now, you may still be a sick jerk, but you are not a criminal. of course, if you marry her in a foriegn country, majority is conveyed if you bring her back to the us regardless of her age. that is ins statute and not subject to state law.
winston (j.d.)
winston569 said:
"just fyi, guys, i don't support **** sex either, but if you are a legal visitor to a country (on your passport, etc) you are subject to the laws of that country only ......"
you forget that you live in a country where the slime politicians just love to pass unenforcable, feel-good legislation just so they can get up on their hind legs and crow about it come election time in an effort to perpetrate their power structure. and unfortunately most of the time it works.
it is a crime for a us citizen to travel abroad for the purpose of having sex with a "minor", minor being defined as someone under the age of 18. it is also a crime to conspire to do so, therefore if you are in the business of organizing overseas tours to foreign countries where the age of consent is quite young, and there is the implication that the purpose of the tour is to have sex with minors, the government can prosecute you under this statute even if you keep your dick in your pants.
now someone tell me how the fuck the stupid government is going to enforce such a ridiculous law?? as if they did not have enough other shit out there in this world to worry about. are they going to follow every traveller to every country in the world and check the id of everyone the stick their dicks in?? probably not. and even if they did and even if the traveller did fuck someone who would be considered a minor in the us, they still have the burden of proving that the purpose of the travel in the first place was to engage in sex with minors and not that it just happened incidentally to the travel. another utter waste of your hard earned but easily confirep001ed tax dollars.
this law is far more problematic if the folks like mac horn and others who organize tours to thailand, the phillipines, ect, where the age of consent is young and the girls are plentiful. they don't need much of a connection to at least haul them in and force them to empty their bank accounts defending themselves, even if the prosecutor knows that he really doesn't have a case. and no recourse or recovering expenses either, so they are effectively put out of business without anything actually resembling due process. so much for that pesky innocent until proven guilty thing. another good use for your tax dollars there, putting legitimate, tax-paying businessmen out of business.
peter,
just ignore "boxer". obviously, he is obssessed with ****philia even when confronted with the truth. his fixation on **** sex is very shocking and quite sad. i can only pray that he doesn't have a daughter. he's the type of pervert who runs to church sunday and molests his daughter that same night, only to somehow justify his actions with his holier than thou attitude. he reminds me of the freak preacher jimmy swaggart who was screwing everything that walked while, at the same time, being "outraged."
he sent me a private message where he obssessed about how my father probably raped my sister. what a freak. let's be patient, though. he was probably molested himself and has yet to work through the trauma.
this is a board and a community where, while we don't always agree, we are still united in many aspects. he is the only person fixated on this imagined violation and he deserves to be alone with his perverted fixation.
How about some reports on some lovely tapatias? This arguing is boring and very repetitive. I will soon be in GDL and will file a nice report regarding some semi-pro girls that a taxista is going to set me up with. he said that they are young housewifes looking to make a little holiday $$$.
To all concerned when I say youg I mean > than 19 years old.
Ok, yes that is correct. However, it is based on the assumption that you "conspired" to do this and planned your trip while you were in the US, and therefore subject to US laws. If, in your travels, you "conspire" and have sex with a minor while in a foriegn country, you are violating no laws. Again, it is not illegal to have sex with a "minor" (under 18) in a foreign country. It IS illegal however to conspire to do so and to travel abroad for this purpose. It is a fine point, but goes to the enforcability issue as you bring up. Your internet company based in the US for example can't advertise a trip etc as you state. Again, your point however is well taken re: politicians and goverment. My advice as a lawyer is to follow the laws in the country you visit, and be discreet enough not to flaunt any US laws you happen to "bend" during your trip (don't hang yourself with your own rope, so to speak)
Winston
i promise this is the last:
yes, boxer, i pmed you first: to say that we shouldn't continue this on the public board. obviously, you aren't very good at following instructions. you are the sick freak that focused on child [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] in your response to me.
if you think that going out on a handful of dates with a girl you didn't know was 16 and breaking it off shortly after finding out her age is ****philia, then you are either retarded or obsessed with child molestation from personal trauma. you are more of a **** than i am for your bizarre private message to me which involved your demented fantasy about my sister being raped. (and, yes, i have the copy also.)
****philia involves going out on purpose with an ****d girl and having sexual relations. it isn't ****philia if you simply date a girl and never ask her age based on the assumption that she looks well in her early 20's. boxer, do you ask for proof of age from all the cg's and sw's you "date"? if not, then go to hell and stop being such a skid mark on the underpants of life.
to all the others on this board, i apologize but this moron is constantly making very serious allegations against me. anybody with half a brain knows that i have come out in defense of women and against ****d mongering in the past. boxer and his imagined brigade of fellow lunk-heads need to get over themselves. you are the one who should go to another board if you can't get over your own stupidity. all you've contributed here is cracks about bo, penis size and moral outrage over absolutely nothing.
boxer, you should change your screen name. you give a bad name to those of us involved in the sport of boxing. and you give a bad name to mongering and the male species as well.
go back to the dirty, kiddie porn mags that you have stashed under your pillow and stop projecting your perversions onto this board.
to everyone else: have a nice x-mas!!!
I try to stay away from personal bashing as much as possible. But, for this case, it's way too difficult.
Boxer: I hung out with Miller several times in Mexico. He is an honest guy just like many of us. He was an experienced monger and gave tons of useful tips for many guys. It was sad news when I heard he retired from the mongering business.
Merry X-Mas.
Hello fellow mongerers. I'm looking for info on the scene in Guadalajara. I'll be there for the big show in March and I'd love to sample the local flavors.
Lots of flaming in this forum, makes me feel right at home. If someone can direct me to a post of USEFUL information however, I'd be forever grateful!
I like the SW scene, I'm gringo with no Spanish (no disrespect) and am interested in numbers ($$) and tactics. I treat the ladies right and have no quirks (that I'm willing to admit to anyway).
Maybe a member who knows about the show and can help with the scene via contact.
Thanks.
Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John
CJ,
Go back a few months to a year and read the posts. The Boxing moron has polluted this thread recently, but there is plenty of info. See my posts (and Dickhead's and others) about the esteticas (massage parlors) and how to get there. FS for 400-800 pesos. Not a strong SW scene. Other posts on escorts. Strip clubs over-rated and over-priced in my opinion. Guadalajara is a nice over-all destination with your best bang for the buck at the esteticas such as High Class . . .
-P
you guys are throwing around the word **** like you actually know what it means. the dsm-iv, which the the manual psychiatrists and therapists use to diagnose mental illness defines ****philia as having sex with or being sexually aroused by prepubescent children, generally under the age of twelve. a man having sex in mexico with a sixteen-year-old who appears to be older does not even come close to being the same thing.
take those millions of guys who were jacking off to traci lords in new wave hooker's. were they all ****s because they thought she was eighteen when in actuality she was only fifteen? of course not. get a grip.
if some guy is in his own country having sex with a gal who is over the age of consent then let him be.
CJ,
I assume they are ALL accurate, but tastes and styles vary. Neither DH nor I like to spend a lot of money, so High Class is a fine option. Others report about out-call at higher prices. And some guys just like the strip club vibe. It won't take you long to read it all, compared to the time and cost of a trip . . .
. . . and the "muckraking" is just one clown for the last month - not the normal situation.
Cheers, -P
Hello Mongers -
[quote]According to this site the legal age of consent for sex in Mexico is 12.[/quote]
I just want to let everyone know, and I have posted this in several threads in the Mexico Forum over the past few years - the Age of Consent site is *wrong*.
Someone who is 18+ cannot legally have sex with someone under 18 in Mexico.
The confusion seems to arise in that the penal code specifically makes the exception, the age of consent between two [b]minors[/b] is 12 - 17.
However, this statute is enforceable if the parents or legal guardians of the minor were to file a complaint with the district attorney.
It is common in Mexico for people to avoid prosecution in criminal cases (such as vehicular homicide) by "paying off" the [i]family[/i].
I personally would not want to be in the situation of being a "rich" foreigner trying to negotiate a cash settlement for avoiding a very serious jail sentence.
Also, in 2000 some very specific federal laws were passed concerning the corruption of minors and sexual exploitation, pornography and prostitution, part of the penalty establishes cash value on "moral damages" to the minor.
No thanks, I'd rather be accused of murder, at least there's no death penalty.
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Peter,
I live in the same general area as Guadalajara (just outside of Morelia). The high temp is usually in the low 80's and the low temp is between 45-55. Almost always sunny and bright :)
I lived in Chicago also and I can't even imagine going through another winter.
Hi Country:
I was in Guad a few weeks ago and I do agree it has a weak SW scene, but its there alright. The big street that runs to the left of the Degollado Theatre sort of dips down to an underpass behind the Theatre, and in the corner there is a cheap hotel, "Hotel Paris". There are a number SWs walking around and in the stairways going up to the main plaza. I had two in mid-afternoon. A young mulatto local with a big, frisky ass ("Marta"), and a very friendly and shy Indian girl, can't remember her name. Both told me the scene was active only during the day.
Also, behind Plaza del Mariachi there are several sleazy hotels in the small streets with SW's obviously lurking in the lobbies. Didnt check that out.
Thats about it, I think.
Peterpaul
I find that the normal age of consent is age 18 in most areas of Mexico. Some states do vary on this.
Mexico is struggling to modernize its antiquated justice system, all of which still gurantees absolutley no rights to a woman of any age to have that justice when it involves sex matters.
I'm interested in info about GUADALAJARA for a change. A quick question, what would you say the difference (if any) is in the cost of living between Guadalajara and Tijuana? Are wages the same? Housing? What would be considered a decent wage for the average white collar worker there?
Many thanks. Now I ain't shooting at anyone here Boxing, just an observation OK? For the record, I don't do kids.
Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John
Revised to delete the reference to Poki.
the age of consent laws in the u. s. and elsewhere are very confusing. just because the age of consent is sixteen does not make it legal to have sex with a sixteen-year-old. in washington state the age of consent is sixteen, however, patronizing a sixteen or seventeen-year-old prostitute is a felony. in addition having non-paid consentual sex with a 16 or 17 year old is a gross misdeanor called "communication with a minor for immoral purposes." i believe a lot of states have similiar laws. i would not advise having sex with someone under eighteen anywhere, but particularly in the u. s. and not to preach here, but just because its legal in some third world countries to have sex with minors does not make it right. to quote jackson from the editorials page in part:
"1. as men, it is our responsibility to protect women and children.
2. young girls, as the most vulnerable members of the human race, are especially deserving of our protection.
3. regardless of the specific age when a girl has passed biological puberty, young girls are not emotionally capable of handling the emotional turmoil of prostitution. if you have any teenage daughters yourself, or if you have any friends with teenage daughters, this observation is self-evident.
4. as educated, intelligent, civilized men, we are expected by our peers to operate on a higher moral plain in these matters than other cultures may tolerate. therefore, we do not participate in the exploitation of emotionally **** girls, regardless of the behavior of others."
i agree with him entirely.
now anyone who has mongered extensively has probably at one time or another unknowingly picked up an **** gal. many look years older than they actually are. making this mistake might get you locked up but it does not make you a **** or sick as some seem to think. but i would rather err on the side of caution than share a cell with some really sick individual in mexico or elsewhere.
civ2k
Civ2000, I think you are probably on the right track to err on the side of caution, especially given the confusing nature of the age of consent laws in the US as well as abroad.
There was an interesting case in Indiana a few years ago which involved a Scoutmaster in the Boy Scouts who was buggering some of the scouts in the troop. This chicken hawk was, however, very sly in his approach and very selective about the scouts he engaged in "activities" with. None were under the age of 16 for one thing. When his deeds came to light he was arrested and the prosecuters tried like hell to find something to hang on him but were unable to do so. There are laws in Indiana as in most states which make it illegal for anyone in a "position of authority over" someone, such as schoolteachers and others I would assume to have sex with someone under 18 even though it is consentual. But being a Boy Scout is a voluntary thing and not covered under the letter of the statute as there was no real irrevocable "authority" there which could stand the test of the courts.
Then it came out that he had taken one scout to Chicago on some sort of trip and the Illinois authorities came after him. And Federal authorities came along and tried to bust him under the Mann Act too. But neither IL or US officials were able to even prove that any sex act occured so the cases were dropped. The Scoutmaster was never convicted of anything.
BUT, he expended his life savings on lawyer's fees keeping himself out of the slammer, even though he had broken no laws and was never convicted of ANY crime. So what good does it do to make sure you are obeying the law if the government is going to come after you anyway and de-facto fine you your entire life's savings because what you did seemed immoral to them. Just being on the correct side of the law isn't enough anymore, especially not when there are so many aggressive prosecuters with political aspirations out there just looking for something to be able to crow about at election time.
For what it is worth it is also illegal to have sex with a retarded person regardless of their age. Makes it kind of tough for THEM to get any action, doesn't it? So in addition to checking IDs I guess we must now also start administering IQ tests to anyone we plan to stick our dicks in to make sure they aren't retarded. What a country we live in, and what "leaders" we have who have developed such a talent for finding new and inventive ways to lock up the citizenry and strip them of their assets.
It's been some time since I was in Guadelajara, but I thought I'd post my experience anyways. I was in towm for a week and El Cartier Club was the best that I found. Dance club atmosphere with a hotel attached to it. The bar manager takes care of all the negotiations for the girl. Here's the routine; about every ten songs or so all the available girls get called out and put on pedistals. You then choose the girl you want and take her next door to the hotel. Total cost for me was; $10 to the manager, $10 to the hotel, and $40 to the girl.
I don't remember the name of the girl I chose, but she was a solid 8. Nice almond complection, sandy blonde hair with green eyes. Seems the girls in this part of mexico are more Spanish or South American looking than the border chicks of baja. Anyways this girl was 5'6" and about 115 with an athletic build. 32B and a nice tight butt. Our session started by her taking a shower. She then proceeded to put a condom on me by mouth and gave me a very nice cbj. After some time teasing me we proceeded into fs in multiple positions. She didn't seem rushed at all, after all was done we even sat around trying chat. She was very interested in where I was from and learning english. It was a VERY pleasant experience and probably the best $60 US I have ever spent!
Any recent info on Guadalajara? I was thinking about going down in that area to practice my Spanish. I see there isn't too much recent information on this area. I did scroll back a few pages but just seems like people are fighting with one another. Not cool. Anyway, If I make it down there I'll post what I find out.
Saint
saint,
i go down to guadalajara pretty often... there reallly is not too much new going on there. it is a great city, restaurants, etc. but i think the p2p scene is a little overrated. nothing like the value in ba, and the girls are not as gfe as in most countries in south america.
lately, i have been using the esteticas and have had ok results. sometimes in estetica [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], the girls are hot but its tough getting gfe from them. even when i invite them to my hotel for some after hours fun it is usually the same. i cannot recomend the strip clubs (chaos & the others) as they have way too much pressure, everybody is holding their hand out for a tip, which gets annoying after a while. see my 4-17-03 report about this.
what i have had success with more recently is the non-pro scene. if you go to some of the after-hours clubs, when the other bars close, you should have some luck. the past three times i have done this, i have taken home a nice looking girl.
i have also had some luck with asking some of the taxi drivers for some recomendations. i had this one hook me up with some university students for around $600 pesos or around $55 us. last time i was there, i could not get in contact with him but i had offers from other taxistas.
regaring the restaurants and nightlife, i love guadalajara. good food in some hip new places plus the traditional mexican fare. my favorite hotel is the fiesta americana as it is more mexican than the u.s. chains and you are in a good location at the glorieta minerva. i have never had any problems bringing girls in if you are quiet about it.
anyway, the esteticas are probably your best bet for quality and value p2p. the out call stuff has been dicey at best as i have had to send back as many as i have kept. also, you should not have any problems at all with the non-pro scene if you are there for more than a few weeks. buenos suerte!
ps i also agree that the bickering on this board has made me totally lose interest in posting new updates. also, i will be checking out cali this may due to your excellent reviews.
ok so everything i heard about guadalajara is true. but, i have to go for business anyway, so i’ll see what i can find. i read everything i could, and was not encouraged that i would find much fun.
taxi driver said high class eteticas was good. i asked about kaos, and men’s club, he said men’s club was closed, but said kaos was open. hardly a ringing endorsement.
i see a place next to where i am staying; big sign says ladies club, the bellman says it’s name is cucu. but it’s closed. bellman says maybe open at 8pm.
so, i get a cab and say high class, and show him the address. well he has never heard of it and can’t seem to find it. i saw the place on the way from the airport, and knew about where it was. high class was painted on the side of the building in huge letters. but he never found it, but dropped me at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] esteticas.
i was met at the reception desk and said that i wanted massage. i was taken to a back room and was told full service was 1,000 pesos. ok, do i know which chica i want? i didn’t so, the chicas all walk to the door and say their name. none are knockouts; but none are dogs either. i hardly got a chance to see them, so certainly remember their names.
i chose a full bodied chica with nice round tits. after about a passable 20 minute massage, we got done to the real reason i was there. cbj and sex in several positions until i was happy. then a shower with my new friend. i got her name later, vero, maybe 30 years old with a great natural rack, and round tush. her complexion was not too good up close, but from behind, she looked great.
later i got a cab to kaoz, and what a disappointment. i got there around 9:00, they said they opened at 8:30. well i was the only one in this huge room. about 100 table cloth covered tables, and a large stage. the guy that shows me to my table has his hand out for a tip, i give him 10 pesos, and he says that is nothing. what does he expect, i can find a empty table, since they all were empty. at least there was no cover charge. i ask, where are the ladies, 10 minutes was the reply, i get a beer for 55 pesos, and wait, and wait. two groups of other guests arrive, and now 40 minutes are gone and i ask the waiter where are the ladies, 10 minutes was the reply, and get another beer. shit, i can drink beer by myself anywhere, wtf. then around 10:00 the waiter brings this chica to my table, and plops down in my lap. we talk in my poor spanish and her poor english, she gets a fishe for 110 pesos. and still no dancers. she gets another beer and does a little grind on my lap.
finally a dancer appears, and she was a little on the hefty side, does three dances and barely uncovers the kitty before she is done. then this women appears asking if i want a ticket. for what? private dance is 15 pesos for 3 mins. full service is 2700 pesos! i say maybe later, and the chica leaves. i go to the head and there is a guy there that wants $$ for handing me a towel. ok, i give him a 10 peso coin, he smirks, but there isn’t anything else in his basket, so he should be happy i gave him anything!
i spot a hot number in a green outfit. get back to my table, and the this guy comes up and tells me he is security for the area i am sitting in,. great now i know that none of those empty tables will attack me. and he wants $$. i act ignorant and thank him. i have the waiter bring the chica in green over. kelly was her name. we chat and watch another dancer that never gets nude. i look around and realize everything i heard about this place is true. i get 2 tickets and take kelly to the private area.
so, a private dance is topless, but bottoms stay on, flash the kitty but no touch. titas ok. so, 6 minutes, and that’s all!!. ok, then the guy that stands in the door way, asks something for me? what i tip you for making sure i keep my hands off the kitty! i h him 20 pesos and he acts like i stiffing him. so, now i have been there almost 2 hours, and have seen 3 dancers, none any better than a 6. there are a few more chicas sitting around, and now there are a few more customers; maybe 50 altogether. no sense wasting any more money. i head for the hotel.
next day, i get better directions to high class and finally, i direct the driver there. once inside, i am greeted, at the desk. there are 4-5 ladies in the reception area around 5pm. i am told the service is 450 pesos, and double service is 780. sexo and sauna. the ladies parade by door in a flash, none are knockouts, none better than average. one seemed to glare at me, one seemed like she had been doing this for a long, long time. one chica, with a belly and a smile, looked more eager the than the others.
so, i chose america, find out she is 21, and she acts like she likes her job. we go to the room i give her 800 pesos and she asks what i want to drink, comes back with my water, and we get naked and hop in the sauna. we do some mutual groping until it get hot. then we hop out and i get a massage. not great but, i really am not there for a massage. she starts with the cbj. i have her get on the table and i get to explore her body. nice and soft, little too much fur for more me, but she seems to really like playing hide the finger, so we hide two, then a rub the magic button while she is stroking mr happy. she starts, si, si, and then some quick breathes and opens her eyes with a big smile. she gets on her knees and we do it doggy, then regular, then she on top, until i was happy. then into the shower.
now this is a chica i wouldn’t have looked twice at, but she really worked me over. she enjoys her job, and made sure that i was a satisfied customer. a few more years, and she maybe jaded, but she was well worth the money. and to think, not much more than i spent at kaos. i left with a smile on my face.
later, i went by cucu again, and still dark. don’t waste your time.
overall gdl is not the place to monger; but if you find your self there, try eteticas.
they are not open late, so if you want action go before 8pm.
hi guys,
i am headed to gdl soon for some fun in the sun, a spanish course at imac... and lots of action of course. just want to let you in on a little research tip i found, which was possible due to all of the great previous input from the pros.
i went to the mexican yellow pages, i.e. paginas amarillas, and was looking for high class, est. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], etc. turns out all of them are listed under "plastic surgery" of all things. crazy, eh? have a look under:
http://www.paginasamarillas.com
and type in "cirugía plástica" after choosing to search by category (seccion). i believe there are several esteticas that have not been mentioned in this board yet.
good luck!
tubular
Sorry but I just want to add one more comment about using that Paginas Amarillas site that I just mentioned. Guadalajara is in the state of Jalisco, so you have to choose that in order to restrict your search to GDL.
Cheers,
Tubular
Watcher...
Sorry about the visit to Kaos, but unless you experience it, you will not believe it. I don't think I have been anywhere in the world quite like this place. I actually think it is more expensive than most strip clubs in the U.S. I hate that place, and like you wrote, the thing that pisses me off more than anything is the constant requests for tips, and then when given, they smirk or ask for more.
Kaos sucks, and if you want to pay a lot of money, get crappy service and see OK girls then it is the place to go. You have to be a total asshole to everybody in that place not to be taken advantage of. How much fun is that?
About Cucurrucucu
Years ago it was a very nice place. There were some really beatiful girls. Some of them have become TV models.
(They danced in bikini, not topless)
The last time I was there it was a place oriented to girls, most of the time the show is men stripping.
I believe most of the strip clubs straight out suck. Save your money and get a hooker 100 dollars for about an hour is about right for most agencies. However, a friend of mine knew a person and you could get a gir for as little as fifty dollars. I went to a massage place called Mens World and had a threesome for about seventy dollars. I will be going again in about three weeks and I will post again when I can.
Chrorizo,
A threesome for $70.00!!! I was in Guad. 4 years ago at World Men's (the place on Pedro Moreno?) and I remember it was about $70 for one, did you get a two for one deal?
I plan on going back in Aug. (visit relatives) and there is another place I have been going for years called Jet Set on Av. Mexico, hopefully it's still there. That place always has a nice selection of senoritas.
Maloso
Actually it was 50 dollars for one plus the house fee of like 20 bucks. It was worth it altogether I spent 90 dollars. I will be there on the 24th. Maybe we can meet.
Later,
Chorizoman
Chorizo,
That would be cool to meet up and do some Mexi-Mongering but I'm going the first week of August, I'm also planning to get away to Vallarta for a few days to go clubbing and hook up with some tourists and hopefully locals too.
Maloso
i've been to guadalajara a couple a times, and a good place is jovi on lazaro cardenas. i went there pick a real hotti. it was 700, plus a tip of 150, for letting me cum in her mouth. i've gone there several times. there is no rush job unlike the place one block away thats called "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]". they are hotter there but they'll always rush you.
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Found this website during my research for my upcoming trip to GDL, lists most strip clubs and massage parlors. I've probably been to most of these, enjoy!
http://www.vivejalisco.com.mx/vivejalisco/Seccion.asp?nSubPage=1&nSubPageID=192&CaID=13&ET1ID=192&ET2ID=196
Malosos
alleykat and dantheman in guadalajara
dantheman and i arrived in guadalajara in the evening hours of tuesday june 22. as the canadair jet broke through the clouds and decended on final approach i was once again struck by the rugged terrain and beauty of the landscape of guadalajara. i was finally back in mexico.
the city sprawled before us, all i could think about was these fabulous women. they are goddesses. beautiful. they have heartbreaker bodies and know how to move them. i recall sitting in a little strip mall enjoying an awful cup of coffee one afternoon and having my jaw drop every 5 seconds. guadalajara and girl watching. bring the neck brace.
dantheman and i decided to avenge the "el galeon" clip experience of a few months ago. i knew we would spend money (we did) but we were going for quality and quantity in as best a balance as possible without mortgaging the church property again.
we decided to use some common sense, do business and get laid. we were to try the locals, visit some clubs, troll for sw's, you know; the usual stuff.
i had read a lot about guadalajara and made a few contributions myself. we were landing in a tough town for mongering so if we were going to do anything for the average mongerer (limited funds/time) then we'd have to keep our eyes open and or wits about us.
dantheman lived in guadalajara for three months. besides helping me in my business by researching the market and establishing contacts, he was charged with the additional responsibility of scoping the scene out and establishing some intel on the pussy situation so we can have an enjoyable trip. he was working on a mistress situation for me but it didn't work out.
he did both brilliantly. he is also my translator, tour guide and body guard. i am his monger mentor, a sort of father figure. (but this guy gets more ass than anyone i know, i learned a lot from him.)
dantheman (hereinafter referred to as "dtm") knew that from the moment we arrived he was going to have to take charge and make sure i got from point a to point b. i just wanted to look at the women. i was like a fucking zombie - they're everywhere, they are amazing.
we touched down on the runway with a deliberate thump at sunset after a brilliant flight and i was brimming with enthusiasm, i had a good feeling about this trip. i refused to accept leaving without boinking some prime gdl stock. little did i know that i would fall in love completely. little did i know how lucky i would be. i would be totally surprised. we stepped off the airplane into the muggy humid and hot guadalajara night. i could smell the chicas over the jet-a. all through the airport it was one heartstopper after another. jeez i can't stop talking about these women.
dtm got the taxi, loaded the bags and off to the serena hotel at antigua carretera a zapotlanejo. this is in old town guadalajara. you must stay there and check out the historic properties. some of these structures were constructed in the 1550's. absolutley amazing.
the serena hotel is a large structure, a 2 star hotel, similar to la villa de zaragoza in tijuana but a step up and two steps up from plaza del arco in monterrey. the room was a suite at $40.00. nice big big bed, clean bathroom and the service was outstanding. a very unique restaurant attached to (but not part of) the hotel. food is world class. service outstanding and cheap.
got checked in (dtm lives in an apartment next door to the hotel) and freshened up. it was about 10:00 and my idea was to take a stroll and see what kind of trouble this alleykat could get into on night number one.
the hotel is close to the plaza de los mariachis. the mariachis hang out there (hundreds of 'em) waiting for walk up gigs. there is also a police station in the center of the action with a sentry posted oustide sporting a mossberg 500-a shot gun and body armor. no place to take the kids, especially at that hour. strolling calzada indepencia to gigantes, we saw the clubs and a few sw's.
there is a dance club on the second floor of a building on the corner of alvero and indepencia right across from the plaza de la mariachis called "tropicalisimo" where the beer and the women are cheap. $150 p for a "bucket" of beer, $50p to have a chica join you, then you negotiate with her for service at your place. service (according to the waiter) starts at $400.p. he said a tln will run you about $600.p.
dtm and i strolled in, went upstairs in the elevator, took a seat, listened to the band, ordered a beer and scoped the place for chicas. lots of ugly ones. a few eligible ones already occupied. they looked pro to me. we waited for fresh stock to arrive but the wait was turning out to be longer than either of us wanted so we decided to pass and come back some other night.
back on the street, we walked passed a sw that looked badly worn. she propositioned us through dtm but he pointed out that the gringo with him was looking for something younger. she told him to have me wait and she would bring someone.
now i'm no fool and when anyone in mexico says "wait here." it usually means they want you to stay put while they make some kind of escape. she quoted 200p for a "nice girl." by that time, not seeing anything interesting on the street we decided to hang and give her a chance to come good.
it was approaching midnight and the street was full of some very seedy characters. we were told by 3 different people that it was very unsafe to be walking the streets at that hour. lots of kidnappings, shootings, robberies etc. even a bouncer at one of the street level clubs (named adrian, spoke perfect english, lived in sacramento for years, dressed in leathers and a guy i would not fuck with) told us to go home. especially me. he said i was too obvious and a good target.
the fouth person to tell us this was a guadalajara pd officer. he and his partner were patrolling on bicycles and decided to check us (me) out. the approached us, wanted to know who we were, where we were from and what we were doing walking the streets that hour. he told us the place is very dangerous (he not wearing a vest). he patted us down for guns/drugs and cautioned us again to go home.
two words about the cops: nice guys. they spoke to dtm in spanish and to me in broken english. they were genuinely concerned. as he was going through my pockets, he handed me my wallet, all of the cash in my hip pocket, all the change; everything. no games, no fooling around. he said that many whites come there to buy drugs and they have guns, they were not taking any chances. i told him i was looking for chicas. he pointed up an alley and said "that's where they live, but i would not go up there if i were you, you might not make it out." sage advice. told him i was exle and we back slapped and high fived for a bit. tough gig for these guys.
dtm and i decided to take his advice but only after country john got laid. our sw returned with a delightful 24yr old named lucy. no english, 5'6" about 120 lbs, b cups, shoulder length brown hair, great body, nice smile, white teeth clean fingernails etc. very clean girl except for the tattoo across her shoulder blades that read sergio in olde english script like the kind they do in prison.
she wanted to go for 200p but dtm told her i was a long timer (and that i had a 10" cock after which she said she was not interested in big dicks so we had to back track on that). i told dtm that i would go 300p for the hour. she agreed, of to a hotel (50p one hour including condom and towels). the hotel was very clean. very rustic. even had a ceiling fan. porno tv etc. very comfortable.
lucy undressed and her body was great. dtm told her to "take good care of me" and she said she would. (this is a nice trick, mexican telling the girl in spanish to take care of the gringo because he is a nice guy etc.) large nipples crowned thos delightful b cups and she was tight and lean. started with cbj for about 10 minutes. then the positions.
she knew she was with a long timer but didn't seem to mind. she told dtm that she had to be back to take care of her baby. no stretch marks on the bellie, a few on the behind but she got herself back in shape nicely after child birth. she was very good in bed. took her time when she needed to, her favorite position was on top. she leaned back and stroked up and down slowly, i could feel her g spot on the head of my penis and she was short stroking and moaning.
she wanted it hard in doggie. she also wanted me to slap her butt. (lots of fun.) but glam slamming doggie wile watching that tattoo with sergio on it was a bit disconcerting so i rolled her over for a bit of mish before mr happy lost his focus. she broke a sweat which thrills me. i love the sweet smell of the latina as she sweats during sex. a fabulous sensation. sorry sergio, nothing personal.
she had a very well controlled pussy. something american women could learn from. she would grab and pull with it (like alicia de monterrey). after about 40 minutes, i felt the pop on the way.
she sensed i was about to pop and really started to work the snapper. it's a cool chica that does this. maximizes the sensation. i popped big time. every ounce of energy went into blowing the load. i collapsed on the bed, shivering. she was quite amused. i told her (in sign language) that she was responsible for that. she had this proud look on her face like she did me right. she did.
i told her that we still had time and i wanted to lay next to her and cuddle - again using sign language. i muttered something like ¿abrazo diez minutos? and she said ok. so we lay in bed, me stroking her very nice young body and her resting her head on my chest. ten minutes later, she slowly got up and went to the shower. i watched her clean up and jeez, these women. for a 300p lay, she was as good as anyone you will find in the alley in tj in looks and performance (except my diana de culiacan).
turns out that dtm got laid at the same time but i didn't get to see the girl and he was a nopop. he complained that she just was not into it.
we trecked back to the hotel and went into a little tittie bar close by the hotel for a "night cap." and that is when my life changed.
not unlike the 2-bit tittie bars in the zona, the place was small, cramped with a postage stamp dance floor and a brass pole to wrap pussy around. our beers were a buck and beers for the girl were 7. it was past midnight, we had a long day but pussy control had us firmly in her grip. feeling quite safe after my 1pop i decided it was safe to have a beer or two when seemingly out of nowhere i had this (bottle) blonde bombshell land on my lap, (can't remember her name but she had a fish net body suit on with nothing under. she was a tiny bit chunky but on a normal night i'd do her in a heartbeat.
dtm had a delightful creature decend upon him as well. classic latina looks, short, curly long black hair, braces, beautiful titties big lips etc. very fuckable. when she got to know us she told dtm that she worked at ab in tj under the name claudia and left about a year ago. i'll try to locate her picture because i would recognize her if i saw her.
time was rushing by and the beer tab had hate written all over it so dtm and i decided to cut it short. lots of touchy feely with the girls though. claudia had her top down so dtm could fondle those lovely titties. looked like she was making a deal with him. just then the music started pounding and the lovely ***** took to the stage. my heart almost stopped. a perfect 10. (ok, deduct .005 for the little titties) but a perfect 10. she danced and my heart climbed to my throat. i gawked at her and placed my hand over my heart (they like that). it seemed as though she ignored me though, like al the attention didn't mean anything. i wondered why.
when she was done, she walked off the stage and i wanted to wait to see her emerge from the back room so i could kneel at her feet. she came out, walked by and scratched the back of my neck with her long fingernails. then took a beer at the bar and talked with the manager. by this time i am almost insane. claudia told dtm that she was "out of bounds" and "hands off" because she was private stock. the girfriend of the owner and a non pro. she dances for him, that's it but she will sit for drinks.
upon hearing the news i announced to dtm that it was time to go (almost 2am at that point - a very long day). no sooner did i have the words out of my mouth when the blonde split. no goodbye, no rub on the penis no nothing. hard as a *****s heart. very bad attitude. i would not have her again.
when it was time to pay the bill, the fucking credit card machine would not work and i was staring down the business end of an $80.00 bar tab, and some very concerned waiters were watching closely. i had no cash, no availability in my atm and now no credit card access. you'll love this.
dtm asked if he could borrow their telephone line for an internet connection and when they said ok, he left me as collateral and went to his room to get his laptop. when he returned, i logged on to wells fargo and transferred $$ from the church account to my personal account. then, i had to run to the 7-11 and wd the cash to pay the bill. we didn;t get out of there until 3am. unbelievable but true. very interesting doing this on the bar. i just sang sinatra and worked through it. only country john. only in gdl.
while waiting for dtm to return with his laptop, i befriended a little blonde number sitting all alone next to the bar. another claudia. very white and very sexy. tight bod and she knows how to use it. somewhat petite but built for speed. very sexy lady, about 22 yrs old and very willing to go. i was working my alleykat charm on her when dtm returned with the laptop.
while transferring the funds, dtm took a liking to her and she to him. i had dtm ask about ***** only to learn that it was true she is "hands off", doesn't go with anyone and has a personal driver to take her home after the gig. strictly non pro.
bar tab paid, sinatra numbers done, dtm and i left. dtm had a solid connection with little claudia and the deal was they'd hook up perhaps tomorrow. she really likes dtm. a real connection. dtm is learning the ways of the alleykat, an excellent student. i was still smarting for *****.
back at the hotel my bed was beckoning me and when i hit the pillow, the last thing i remember was seeing *****. so close but yet so far, for now that is. i was also still thinking about the fabulous alicia de monterrey. what a week it has been so far. it could only get better.
wednesday was filled with meetings and gawking at the beautiful women of guadalajara. i just can't say enough about them. on every corner, in every shop, in every office. beautiful women. the streets of old town guadalajara were alive. the noise level is very high. busses everywhere. you have to shout on the sidewalk to have a conversation. the parks in front of the historic buildings were filled with vendors, students, and lovers of all ages embraced and kissing. what a place. amazing.
wednesday night found us back at the "tropicalisimo" dance hall. some of the chicas we saw there looked good so a return visit was in order. we got there around 9pm so it was way too early. we took a stroll and ended up back there at about 11pm. same story. there were a few nice looking girls there but they were already seated. no quick action here. you have to arrive early and stay late. neither of us had the time.
just as we were leaving, dtm got a call on his cel. turns out the blonde claudia was up for a party. dtm asked her to pick up a friend and meet us at 7-11, next to the hotel. she was game and we were on.
we trecked back to 7-11 and waited for what seemed to be an eternity but was only about 10 minutes when claudia pulled up in her little red chevy -alone.
turns out she could not get her "cousin" (the bottle blond from the other night) to join us as she was not feeling well. just as well, i had bad vibes from her and i remembered how she behaved the last time i bounced her on my lap. she wanted 1000p for an hour anyway. claudia wanted some beer and she wanted some of dtm for 500p. dtm was in no position to refuse. she was looking good man. real good.
dtm's apartment is not appropriate accomodations to do a latina beauty in grand style so being country john, the alleykat, i offered my room and a grateful dtm took the keys, took the girl and i said i'd meet him at the ******* when he was done. off i went to the ******* for a few beers and to wait to see a silly grin on dtm when he came in to get me. it was around midnight and i had some sleep so i was ok and i knew dtm would be ok too. claudia would fuck the shit out of him to be sure.
i arrived at the ******* and was immediately greeted by the manager and waiters. turns out they are all big sinatra fans. i told them i was just hrere for a few beers to wait for dtm. they sat me close to the bar, dropped two beers and i was settling in for an hour or so of girl watching and beer drinking. i was the only gringo in the place, but the manager spoke english (as did the bouncer, a real nice guy).
i took a drink of xx lauger and when i looked up, my heart almost stopped. the fabulous ***** came over to my table and sat down and looked right into my soul with the most beautiful eyes i have ever seen. she placed her hand on my knee and said "¿cerveza para mí?" i'll never forget it. i ordered two for her, just to keep her in front of me for a while.
now i'm thinking that i'd better be good because the manager and bouncer were watching her closely. i needed an ashtry, she snapped her fingers, ashtry appears. i needed more napkins, she snaps her fingers, more napkins appear. magic. she was running the show. no doubt about it and their job was to make her happy.
she spoke no english. she didn't have to. the manager was filling in for dtm as my translator so i was limited as to what i could say. i didn't want to come on too strong. next thing i know, it's 5 beers later and she is now sitting on ly lap when dtm appears with this huge grin.
claudia had fucked the stars right out of the sky. dtm likes 'em hearty but this spinner stole his heart. sounds like she was a real pro. dtm was satisfied, just the way it should be. he needs to learn to clean up the fucking room when he's done!!!!!!
dtm sat down next to me and *****. i had him tell her that she is the most beautiful creature i ever laid eyes on. she leaned over and talked to him in spanish then she wispered in my ear "my name is ***** and i am 19 years old." in english. i almost collapsed. she was perfect. a perfect face, a perfect body and a little tipsy. she kept repeating that and trying to improve her english. i wrote the alphabet out on a napkin and taught her the english pronunciations. we were having a blast man. dtm told her i was exle because she made a comment about my clean-cut looks.
when she found this out, she jumpped up from my lap and ran to the dressing room. i was about to choke the shit out of dtm when he told me she went to change for her next dance. i calmed down a bit and when she emerged for her dance, she was wearing a plastic skin tight mini police uniform. fuck man. fuck!!!
aftet her dance, she promptly returned to her place on my lap. i was, well, what can i say. i told her i wanted to take her picture. she said it was ok with her if it was ok with the manager. i talked to him and he said if it was ok with her, it was ok. my plan was to return the next evening for pics if it worked out.
i said no way am i walking away from this delightful creature. we laughed, drank and fondled (manager looking on) until about 4:30. i had to go to the restroom to drain the main vein and as i was getting up i said to dtm "i must have her." in a wishful sort of way. i then proceed to walk directly and completely into the womens dressing room.
the next thing i saw was ***** walking in and taking me by the arm out of the dressing room and leading me to the mens room. before i went in she gave me a big hug and a wet kiss. i was spinning. big time.
i got back to the table and she was gone. i was heart sick. the place closes at 5am so i had another 1/2 hour coming to me. where is she????
dtm saw i was stressing big time. he had caught the eye of another chica in the club who was already sitting with him. she was very cool.
dtm got up, walked over to me and said the following words: "i have some good news for you my friend. ***** wants to meet you at the hotel but you have to leave now. she is the girlfriend of the owner and doesn't go with guys but she wants to go with you. she is changing and will meet us there at 5:30. leave now so there is no suspicion, she will get into a lot of trouble if anyone finds out. this is her first pro session and she is thinking about going pro to make more money."
well, the world stopped spinning for a while. i was to have her. 1000p. all to myself. first time pro gig for her. could this be real?
i ran back to the hotel (1 block away) and settled in the restaurant with dtm making sure nothing happend to me. i watched the clock. 5:30 came. a taxi pulled up, waited then left. no one gets out. 5:40 comes, the same taxi. the driver gets out, walks to the rear passenger door, opens it and out steps the fabulous *****. looking as beautiful as could be. i could tell she was nervous and having a blunt conversation with the taxi driver.
the taxi driver was hired by the club owner to ensure that she goes straight home after the gig. i gave him 100p and she gave him 100p to wait (and keep his mouth shut). she gave him a story to tell the bf when he calls him. he agreed to keep it hush hush and parked his cab. me and ***** walked through the lobby, dtm in tow and to the room where dtm kept her occupied with light conversation until i cleaned up his fucking mess from the night before.
laptop booted up with my translation program, i bid dtm adieu and had a brief conversation with her via my laptop. she is a beautiful girl. i could write volumes about her.
we moved to the bedroom and i undressed her. her 19 year old body glowed as the sun was stealing the last bit of darkness from the room. already you could hear the hustle and bustle of activity on the street below but for me, it was all about her. her lips were sweet and her skin was soft.
she looked like and angel as she lay on the bed. i began by kissing every inch of her body. from her feet to her forehead. all sweet and delicious. i then began to eat away at the most fabulous shaved pussy anyone could ask for. she had multi pops that were genuine. i could feel the contractions in her abdomin. after she rolled me over ond mounted on top. i could tell she was inexperienced. very little attention to foreplay. (she'll have to straighten that up if she turns pro) but none was needed. i wanted to fuck her.
her pussy was tight and well controlled. she leaned into and back (like riding the mechanical bull) and i penetrated her deeply. slow and easy, taking our time. the condom being the only barrier and i hated it because i could only imagine what it would be like doing her bb.
first pop is about 40 minutes. i filled the condom and she enjoyed the warm spirt of sperm in her vagina even feeling it through the condom. by this time she was moist with sweat and i kissed her forehead and lips while she lay on my chest. but she did not want to go.
after about 15 minutes of embracing and kissing her, the old feller started to re-emerge and she looked surprised. we ran out to the computer and she said that she had a wonderful time and wanted to do it again. i said "right now?" she said "si." now i could write 100 paragraphs more but i think you get the picture.
she went to the bathroom, washed her pussy real good and slipped back into bed with me. we're going on 1-1/2 hours now and i knew that even if a 2pop was going to happen it would take at least another hour. she turned on, i turned on and a repeat performance from start to finish ending in a 2pop. country john felt like he had arrived.
it was pushing 9am by the time she slid out of bed. i took a shower with her and watched as she covered that beautiful glowing body. it was bitter sweet. knowing i had done a first timer and that she was a beautiful 19 year old princess born and raised in guadalajara was just toomuch for this alleykat to digest. i told her (via my trusty laptop) that i want to see her again, maybe take her to dinner but she pointed out that it was very risky for her and me. things woud be very hard for her if she got caught. i slipped 1000p into her back pocket and walked her downstairs where her driver was being a bit impatient, checking his watch etc. he promptly wisked her away. session over.
dtm was patiently waiting too - for the details. i wept like a ***** over breakfast, painfully recounting the details. her soft skin, her pouty lips, her deep brown eyes that saw right through me, her creamy thighs, her smell, her taste. i was one fucked up ******. he knew it. it always happens to me. (dtm is getting sick of it.)
got some sleep before our 5pm meeting and freshened up for my last night in gdl. i was spending it at the *******. no two ways about it. country john was going to buy her beer and claim her on his lap for the evening and get some pictures with her consent - in the club!! very exciting. after our meetings (ending at 11:30pm) i, dressed in my suit and looking fine crept my way down the block to the *******. warmly greeted and promptly seated i took my position in front of the stage where ***** was about to dance. i looked on with amazement at this beautiful creature. camera in hand. i was informed by the manager that i could not take pictures until after closing. ok. fine. all i wanted was ***** on my lap drinking beer.
she could move and tease. she spun around the pole her neon orange thong and bra glowed under the black lights of the stage. removing her top and looking my way, she smiled at me. she then tossed her top to me (which i still have in my office nicely sealed with her smell) and i motioned her over to the table when she was finished with her dance.
she promptly arrived, assumed the position and dtm and i enjoyed the evening filled with hugs, kissed, english lessons and the look between us of a fabulous session the morning before. she again told dtm to tell me to not user her name or her images on the internet, nor the name of the club. i promised i would not.
time slipped by too fast. before i knew it it was time to go but not before taking some pictures of this princess in uniform on stage in the club. probably a first in the mongering world in mexico where they are very protective and very aware of camera phones etc. i got some great shots. jtull2 loved them.
with all the pictures i could take, it was finally time to leave. i embraced ***** for the last time, all choked up and eyes filled like a fool. i would miss her. she knew it. it was friday morning and i had a plane to catch back to the usa at 11:30. it was 6am - fuck sleep.
i finally let her go and was making my way to the door with no sign of dtm, i decided to wait outside, i couldn't bear to look at ***** again. i'd stay in gdl if i did.
dtm emerged from the club full of lipstick. everywhere. he looked like bozo the clown. then he did something amazing. he leaned into me and said these words: "***** wants to see you at the hotel before you leave. she wants you to take some pictures in her uniform in your room. she will bring it with her and meet you in 15 minutes in the hotel restaurant. but this time she wants 1200p. well, our last session worked out great for a bargain and i would not be denied another sesson with *****.
i bounced back to the hotel, told dtm to have a cab standing by at the appointed hour to get me to the airport on time, got back to the room and threw my stuff in the suitcase and ran downstairs to meet ***** who was just arriving and bribing the driver again. he was giving her a hard time this time so an little arguement ensued. no matter. ***** would have her way and i would have ***** again.
***** was as delightful as the previous session. a repeat performance against time. i 1popped in about 40 minutes and we lay next to each other and wept for about 30 minutes. she did not want to leave, neither did i. i snapped a bunch of pics (no nudes). got her showered and dressed and we embraced in the hotel room like two kids. she openly wept and told me "i love you" in very bad english. ripped my heart right out of my chest. i get all choked up recounting it. me a 48 year old fart.
here is this 19 year old princess, knowing i was catching a plane, maybe never to return, in tears in my arms. what is this alleykat to do?
i gave her a bottle of my aftershave and told her to open it once in a while to remember me. she clutched it like a prized posession and wept as i walked her to her cab. another long embrace and kiss. she was gone. i was running late for my flight.
dtm did a fantastic job getting me to the airport and on the plane. he was flying to tj the next day where we would meet up for alleykat in the zona and hook up with jtull for the infamous tour.
on the way back, i booted up my trusted laptop and gazed at the wonderful princess *****. my heart was heavy, my eyes filled up again and i wept quietly to myself thinking that this girl is too beautiful to go pro. she has so many years ahead. the pro road can turn her heart and she is standing on the threshold.
dtm has her number and calls her on my behalf to see how she is doing. she still works at the club but does not go with any men. (this according to her and verified by claudia.)
someday i will return to gdl. i might fly her to tj for a weekend. i don't know. this mongering experience changed me somehow. i'll never forget her.
be safe *****. i miss you.
country john
Truley a wonderful tale AlleyKat, gotta love them beautifiul Guad. women, I'm counting the days till I depart, 26 days and counting...
Any chance you can PM the name of that club?
I'm kinda familiar with that area but not really sure about the one you're talking about.
Maloso
AlleyKay,
Ok you can't mention the name of the club, but at least give me a clue, please.
You should try Esteticas. I like Nefertiti that is located on Manzano street in front of the Mission Carlton hotel.
Ask for Jessy
Catador:
The clue is in the PM.
Thanks for the message too. Seems like I might have some directions crossed up. My hotel might have been at a different location since I got the address off the stationary brought back from the trip. I don't remember taking a cab to PD Mariachis.
I've emailed DTM since he lived there for three months to sort out any confusion. I'll post the clarification as soon as I get it straight from him.
So many taxis, so little time, soooooo many beautiful women.
Here is view from the hotel window, if that will help with my location during my stay.
Be safe and Be Nice
Country John
I am a very hard core Dickhead but Country John's posting gave me a woody. I still miss Mexico sometimes even though Buenos Aires is much better overall. There's a lot more fuglies in Mexico but the most beautiful Mexicanas are THE most beautiful women anywhere.
Suerte, CJ
Why can't you mention the name of the club? I was in that area a few weeks ago and missed the tropical club.
Sounds like you guys had fun... congrats.
I will be visiting Guadalajara from July 20th thru 27th, 2004 and staying in Lago de Chapala. Buses run regularly to the city from there, so there should be no problem getting around. This time while visiting, I will hold the line on Estetica prices per suggestions from the guys who post reports here. As always, a report is due after the trip. My intention is to use past experience with the information gained here to make my stay more comfortable. From Guadalajara, I will be visiting Piedras Neigras and Juarez if plans don't change mid-trip. My schedule is open for anyone who wants to join me in town.
Thanks guys!
Catador:
I got some clarifications to the issues you raised in my GDL post. I emailed DTM who was living in GDL and here is the response. I hope this clears things up - I was paying attention only to the girls. The answers are straight from DTM.
>>>Catador wrote on 07-08-04 13:35:
>>>I'm really confused. I live in Guadalajara.
>>>If you hotel was in Carretera a Zapotlanejo, that is near the new bus terminal, and veeery far from Plaza de Los Mariachis.
ANSWER:
(there is another hotel "serena", is one of the two towers that use to call "Aranzezu" now the tower on the corner of revoluicion & corona is a "serena" hotel, just like the one in the bus station.)
>>>I don't understand how did you manage to check in at the hotel and after thath be in Independencia.
>>>
>>>Did you take a cab from Hotel Serena to Tropicalisimo zone ??
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( reading the avobe, you will agree that the hotel is a few blocks from there)
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>>>Can you give me tha nema of the hotel you were with Lucy ( the chica on the first night?, the one with Porn TV)
ANSWER:
( tha name of the hotel is "Vigo" is located aprox 3 block from AVE. Juarez in the Avenida independencia. tordwards revolucion ).
Guys, I can't name the girl or the club because she was private stock and it would not go well for her. I promised her I would not let the "Cat out of the bag" so I'm going to hold true to my word.
I will confess that I did show pics and give details to a few close monger buds but only in person and one very very trusted monger bud via PM because I wanted to make sure I had backup as far as the legitimacy of the post was concerned.
Suffice it to say that you can score if you have the time to invest. I got clipped BIG TIME in GDL when I was there in April. Very messy.
I can't wait to get back to GDL. Jeez those women.
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
I just got back from GDL,including a great Spanish course at IMAC. I was hoping to monger more, but I had some digestion issues that sacked my libido for most of the time.
Regardless, I did have one monger experience which was not with the hottest woman in town, but it was certainly enjoyable. I was feeling adventurous, so I tried out a new estetica that I hadn't seen on the board before. It is called Sagitario, which is on Federalismo Sur 376 (west side of street), about 3 blocks south of the main east-west street Juarez (where the park and subway station are located).
So I arrived at Sagitario and rang the bell. A short 40-something answered the door and I told her I was interested in a masage. She said fine, and let me back to a decent, clean room, not too fancy but complete with massage table, couch, sauna, shower, etc. Cheesy love songs piped in as well. She then asked me what I wanted, and I told her full service massage. I asked if I could choose the girl I wanted, but she said she was the only one working. The woman, who goes by Rebecca, was maybe a 5-6 but very kind and friendly. I asked how much the full service was, and she said 550 pesos (about $50). Since it was my first time in an estetica I was a bit nervous, my Spanish is still kinda rusty. Normally I wouldn't have picked her, but it was awkward to back out and I was pretty horny so I just figured I'd give it a try.
I took a shower and Rebecca came back in and proceeded to take her clothes off. Sex first, then massage, she said. Even though she is a bit older, her body actually wasn't so bad, and her attitude was excellent. She seemed to truly enjoy herself. The general came right to attention upon seeing her shapely, perky tits. She also let me explore and play with her body, which she liked. I played with her nice tits for awhile while she lightly massaged my growing cock. Then she turned around and stuck her soft, ample butt cheeks into my member and I toyed with her big pussy lips and erect clit. She was moaning and saying "que rico, que rico" over and over. I asked her if we could actually have sex on the massage table, and she said that anything in the world is possible. Alright then, let's get it on! So we started with some missionary, which is my favorite and I spent a long time just laying on her and pumping her slowly and holding her closely. She came pretty easily, and I just kept right on pumping. I was surprised how turned on I got - I guess good attitude can go a long way.
After awhile I suggested some perrito, and you'd think she won the lottery! Si, me encanta perrito! (I love doggie style!) I inserted my rod into her now juicy pussy and pumped her some more - then I reached around to caress her gigantic clit. After awhile she shuddered and came again, even more intensively than the first time. That finally put me over the top, and as I split open her butt cheeks to see her juicy pink asshole, my swollen member raged uncontrollably and I came like a madman and collapsed on her back. Needless to say, we both enjoyed ourselves very much.
So, that was the sex part, and I thought well, that's probably about it, but then she got ready to give me my massage. Which was actually an excellent massage, full body for about a half hour. It included some nice little teases on my asshole and cock as well. By that time, my dick was so worn out, it didn't respond, but it felt very good nonetheless. If you are looking for just a decent normal massage, Rebecca is also a good option. Her hands are very skillful.
I also want to mention that there is a new estetica even closer to the centro that I didn't have a chance to try. It is called Alexander, and it is on Morelos (an east-west street just north of Juarez), on the first block west of Federalismo. They have a sign in front advertising massages, so I assume they offer FS. I walked by and looked in, and the chicas looked pretty good overall.
Good Findings Tubular,
Head out to Guad. next Tuesday & will definately check out these two places you write about.
Maloso
greetings from chapala (lakeside, about 40 minutes outside of guad).
i'm usually on the cuba board as i have been there once and really enjoyed it and plan to go again in november.
i loved the report by country john and i can see how easily one can fall for some beautifuly chica in guad or cuba.
i live permanently in the lakeside area so maybe one of these times i'll scoot over to guad though i have heard in the last couple of weeks, it is very unsafe for gringos.
one thing i have noticed here and that is for the most part, the young and even middle-aged mexican girls and women have great bodies, enough to revive the imagination of a dying hermit. wish there were some action here but this is "seizure city" for the most part. bummer.
anyway, have enjoyed the peek into this section.
take care.
spock
Spock,
I spent two weeks living right in the centro historico and had absolutely zero problems, even late at night. I've heard that you want to avoid Plaza Mariachi and Avenida Revolucion late at night due to some scary characters, but that is isolated. Otherwise, you have absolutely nothing to be afraid of. If you don't go, you're missing out on an interesting, lively city, packed with some of the world's most lovely chicas who know how to accentuate their luscious curves. There is life on the street around the clock, and the tapatios & tapatias are welcoming and gracious to all visitors. I feel safer in GDL than most US cities.
Cheers,
Tubular
Wow, Tubular!
Way to go! I think you hit the nail right on the head with your incursion at the Guadalajara MP. You found a basically decent person who works a hard trade but is open to a good experience. This is what attitude is all about, and what I like of Mexican women. I wouldnt normally check out that kind of establishment, but the woman you met is proof that this kind of experience can be found in all venues of sex work.
If I may be allowed a little philosophy, this proves the ultimate benefit of prostitution: you had a red-hot "GF" sex experience with a woman you met 15 minutes before, you might never see again, who belongs to a different world altogether, that you might not have even turned to look at in the street. She also had a fantastic experience, yet you probably wouldnt have been ever able (or wanted) to pick up this woman in any other circumstance of her life or yours. Still, the miracle did happen.
If this kind of stuff doesnt open one's eyes wide to life, then nothing does.
Hope you had time to check out Mexico City.
Cheers,
PP
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I will be visiting GDL this August 23rd thru August 26th, 2004
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On July 21, 2004, while vacationing at Lake Chapala, I took the opportunity to check out some of the sights in GDL. Aside from visiting the Plaza de los Mariachis, San Juan de Dios, and Zona Centro, I took the pleasure of an afternoon massage at Geisha. This estetica is about 3 blocks north of the Mission Carlton Hotel on Manzano. Geisha is behind the Sears store as reported in earlier posts. You would also pass up the Nefertiti Masculina Estetica about 1 block north at 489 Manzano. However, on this trip I did not stop and experience Nefertiti (maybe next time).
I was met at the door by a fine looking young woman named Selena. She is 24 years old, stands about five feet five, soft spoken, and kind. The full service fee was 350 pesos with a 50 peso tip for 1 hour. She asked if I wanted anything to drink before I proceeded into the shower. After showering, Selena came into the room and promptly disrobed showing her smaller, but pert breasts. After a tender and stimulating massage, we then started on each other.
She seemed to enjoy french kissing and vaginal stimulation (but not anal). After about 15 minutes of foreplay, she came suddenly and passionately. Her vagina was very wet by then and wanted my cock right away, first from the front and then from behind. She just about wore me out, but I finally came. We both then took a shower and finished up. She was very pleasing and I would return to her again. For me it’s as close to GFE and personal as could be.
Please see the attached picture (for reference) of the Geisha Masculina Estetica behind the Sears store about 3 blocks north of the Mission Carlton Hotel. This was taken during my trip to GDL the last week of July, 2004.
ML
Is it possible to purchase Viagra in Guad without a prescription?
Thanks
Please see the attached picture (for reference) of the Nefertiti Masculina Estetica (about 1 block north of the Mission Carlton Hotel) at 489 Manzano. Manzano runs along side the Hotel where the taxis are standing. I would have liked to visit this establishment, however time did not permit. It's on the list for next time though. The picture was taken (on the way to Geisha Estetica) during my trip to GDL the last week of July, 2004.
Thanks,
ML
Massage Lover,
We must have crossed paths, I was in GDL the first week of Aug. enjoying some of the city's finest ladies and by far my favorite and best selection has to be "Jet Set" on Av. Mexico, a little more pricey than Geisha but always has nice young ladies to chose from, recomend it to any fellow monger.
Maloso
Yes, I have been buying it for a while and no problem.
I have been to Farmacias abc.
Gentlemen,
I am a long-time viewing member of the forum, but this is my first time posting, so please go easy.
I am an avid traveller to Mexico; every chance i get I go. I am fluent in Spanish, which really helps in the business discussed in this forum, as most who offer the service are poorly educated. I am not insulting, that's just the way it is.
This post is in regards to my novia. We've been together for almost two years, and see each other as much as possible. I'm just graduated from college and she's still in college, so times are tough. But anyway the last time I went down there (about two months ago), was our best rondevous to date. We only had two days together, but we did make the most of it. Everything except for anal was performed, I didn't want to finish, because we're not ready for a kid frankly. I have asked her if she would let me CIM but she says not yet. Plus she has brances which can really hurt when she gives BBBJs if we're not careful. We have a really good thing going...
I arrived July 4 to the bus station. I called her house to come get me, but she was still at work, so her mother comes by. She's a really nice lady. I don't know if she knows I'm doing her daughter, but she probably does. But she treats me well in any event. Anyway, we head back to the casa and my novia just got back from work and greets me with a deep passionate kiss. She takes me by the hand and leads me to her room where I leave my suitcase. It's about 5:00PM at this point and she offers me something to eat and drink, which I accept gratefully. She brings it to me shortly and sits on my lap and feeds me. After that, we lay on the bed together and hold each other and watch TV while talking and kissing. Later on in the evening after her mom goes to sleep the freak comes out and so it begins. We're still discovering each others' likes and dislikes, so we tried many different positions. The thing is I'm 6'6" and she's 5'2", which makes for interesting sessions. But we manage. Our favorite is "spooning" (I lay behind her and she curls up into the fetal position). We also did regular and reverse cow-girl, did it me sitting on a chair and she mounting me, and missionary of course.
The next day was great because everybody left except for the two of us. That day we nade love a total of 12 times (during the daytime!). Later we went to a movie and sat in the back and she serviced me (BBBJ) as best she could. It was nice. She has a beautiful face and a great chest. I think I may marry her soon. My babies will definately eat well!
Kevin
yes it is
Greetings from GDL
I was fortunate to meet this lovely 24 year old lady by the name of Carla who came to visit me at my Guadalajara hotel for as true a GFE as one could ever hope for. I called one of the escort services I found in the yellow pages and for 80 US we had a terrific time together. I hope you enjoy her photos I’ve attached.
Good hunting all
On July 23, 2004, while vacationing at Lake Chapala, I revisited the estetica “High Class” on Lazaro Cardenas about 3 miles SW of the Mission Carlton Hotel. The hotel is a very good landmark because it is one of the highest buildings in GDL. When lost, just look at the skyline and you should be able to tell where you are. A cab ride from the hotel is approximately 35 pesos.
High Class Estetica
Lazaro Cardenas No. 2913
Parque De Las Estrellas
Guadalajara, Jalisco, MX
I was met at the door by a fine looking young woman whose name I cannot remember. In any event, she did not appeal to me. A parade of women ensued and I chose Carla. She stands about 5 foot 6 inches armed with 38D’s. She provided fairly good service and she seemed to enjoy making me comfortable and happy. The full service fee was 370 pesos with a 50 peso tip for about 40 minutes time. She seemed to enjoy the massage I gave her but did not want to do anal, BBBJ or CIM, only straight sex. After about 10 minutes of foreplay and 5 minutes of missionary, I finally came. We both then took a shower and finished up. Although Carla was very professional, she was not as good as “Maira” (last year’s trip) or “Selena” (from Geisha Estetica). I probably would not use her services again. Her style was not too exciting for me, but for others she may just be very pleasing.
See the attached file for a picture of the “Mission Carlton Hotel” for reference.
ML
Any other reports on Jet Set or on Nefertiti Estetica?
Is High Class still doing business?
I am visiting GDL in Nov, and trying to plan my visit.
Just 1 block north of the San Juan de Dios shopping plaza hides the famed "Hotel Paris," a place frequented by the SW's in the area. The plaza is approximately 1 mile north of the Mission Carlton Hotel. While there on vacation in July 2004, two street walkers approached me and wanted to give their services for a small fee of one-hundred pesos.
They were poised under the stairs leading down from the plaza area and underneath the roadway bridge (looking north). Since they looked rather "weathered" (and hungry?), I gave them each a few pesos for food. Both were grateful and still asked if I wanted sex play at the hotel, but I declined. However, I did manage to get a picture of the area for reference.
Please see the attached file!
ML
To All,
The Plaza de los Mariachis (PM) has been mentioned in previous posts as a zone of business for GDL SW’s. While on vacation to GDL in July and August 2004, I had the opportunity to stroll through the San Juan de Dios Plaza area. Just to the south of the plaza and east of Calz. Independencia Sur is the PM. A leisurely stroll in and around the plaza found some interesting observations. Yes, there were mariachis getting ready to perform and some very beautiful women (maybe some of them were SW’s). Yes indeed there are a few seedy hotels around the Plaza. After walking around the plaza for about an hour, I did not get approached nor did I notice any SW activity in the late afternoon of July 22, 2004.
However, for all you mongers who may encounter some activity there, attached is a picture looking south (towards the Mission Carlton Hotel) for reference.
ML
Kev dog,
What was the reason for your post? It had absolutely nothing to do with mongering.
I am planning a trip to GDL for Christmas, 2004. Anybody wanna arrange to get together for drinks and what-not?
Kev Dog:
The arc made by the arrows of love shot by cupid can be high indeed. Especially when it comes to Mexican women.
Sounds like you and your girl have a great thing going. Who can be critical of love. Do you live in the USA? Will she move to the USA?
12 pops in one day - jeez. What must that be like.
You can take the latina out of Mexico, but you will never get Mexico out of the latina. Remember those words.
Enjoy your time. The women of Guadalajara can be heart stoppers. My all time favorite sessions were with a dream princess in Guadalajara. I miss her still. I'd love to go back to Guadalajara. A fabulous place.
Good luck.
Country John
Country John
Thanks for the props. I've been mongering for some time in Mexico, started in 2001 in the city of Puebla. I have been to many "table dances" (strip clubs), and sampled many of the girls there. The best to date was Jan. 7, 2004 at a place called Rouge. I was chillin at a table with my boy and his cousin and I saw this flawless ass bent over the bar. I called her over and invited her to a drink. I found out that "Kelly" was half Jarocha (mother from Veracruz) and half Cubana. It does not get any better than that gentlemen. She was maybe 5'5", plus the platform shoes which help a lot (I'm 6'6"). She had the perfect body...a great ass, huge natural tits, an absolutely flawless face. I was in heaven. She worked me in a private lap dance, and asked if I wanted to go to the reservado. My mind had been made up for a while. There she worked her magic passionately, and sincerely (as far as I can tell) enjoyed herself. I gave her great pleasure and she was moaning and clutching my hair, as I was fucking her in all positions and enjoying that great body. No anal, but I left more than satisfied. I believe she was visiting, so she is not a regular there. If my flight out was not the following day, I would have taken her out of there for a three-day weekend, paid the price, and had the best time in Acapulco. I also highly recommend "Manhattan" in Cholula, just north of Puebla. I was last there in June, 2004 and had a great time. In one part of the show the viewers are invited up on stage, max. 4. I was lucky enough to get up there quickly and took a seat on stage, around the center pole for $200 (pesos). Three other men quickly occupied the remaining three seats (so one seat facing each direction) and it was on. The chica who was on my lap before I went up followed mr up there and was my first dance. For four songs the four chicas danced on us, changing chica every song. So for around $20USD I got four lap dances full-contact from four different beautiful chicas. Great times had by all.
PM me if you want any more advice/stories.
Kev Dog
Oh yeah the pic attached is my novia from Guadalajara. It is the only one of the "questionable" photos that fucking Wal-Mart would develop.
To the "sexperts" in Guad, I have the following question:
In Thailand, you can select the talent from a "fish bowl". In the Philippines and Costa Rica, you can check out the talent at the bar prior to "employment". Is there something similar in Guad? That is a place where you can mingle, pay a bar fine and then take the talent to your hotel for LT?
Kaos is a waste and much of the times the talent the agencies send you must be returned.
Would appreciate help with my "outcall" question. I checked the Guad forum but did not find the info.
Thanks - firebird
Just got back from a quick two-day trip to GDL. Went wandering around looking at the shops and the beautiful chicas y mujeres de GDL, when I stubled upon a nice little place to spend a quick 15 minutes of mongering. It is on Ave 5 de Mayo just off of Calle Gigante. No sign, simply a dark orange painted facade with two very good looking girls standing outside. I said hello, went into a room off a courtyard and met 8 girls. Not one over 25 and all a sevens or better. I chose a nice curvy girl (not fat) named Nancy a 7.5 in my book. I paid the abuela 150 pesos for a room, girl, and condom. We stepped inside and went at it TJ style, with the clothes still pretty much on. After a few minutes I was spent and with another 50 peso tip, I was out the door. Went back later that evening, chose a different girl and after another 200 pesos I was on my way.
I speak fluent Spanish, but a few do speak survival English, so I think anyone could get by. This is not for those wanting a GFE, but for anyone wanting a quick tumble this is definately the place for it. But the girls are young, pretty, and cheap. I will be a repeat customer here.
Here is something I ran across in on the Guadalajara Reporter website. The event will be held on the 25th and 26th of September - this Saturday and Sunday.
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Sex comes to the city
By Brian Levinson
Something is heating up in Guadalajara and it’s not the weather. This September, the topic of sexuality has become increasingly visible in the public sphere. The city saw the opening of its first condoneria (condom shop) just weeks ago and, later this month, Tonala will host a large exposition called SexShow Guadalajara 2004. The SexShow, according to its Web site (www.sexshow.com.mx), will be “one of the most talked about events in Guadalajara in years.” Some of the exhibits will feature exotic dancers, strippers, and mud fighting. But the event will also focus on sexual health, information and disease prevention.
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The full text of the story can be found at
http://www.guadalajarareporter.com/fullcover.cfm?id=4
I’m in Guadalajara again for the week and do I adore the lovely ladies here. They are truly beautiful. I contacted a local agency out of the telephone book for a massage and after agreeing on the price of 100.00 dollars for and hour and a half. They sent over this lovely 24 year old gorgeous, long legged beauty. Her name “Monserrat”.
We made some small talk then I asked her is she would like to pose for some digital photos for me. She was hesitant at first but then agreed so long as I didn’t show her face. I took several pictures both clothed and of course nude in various poses. She really knew how to play and tease the lens and of course me with her very sexy poses.
She then insisted we get to know each other better. She really know how to treat a man. First she started with BBBJ then she rolled me over and gave me one hell of a massage all the while sitting on me naked and rubbing herself up and down on me as she rubbed my body. I’m not sure who was getting worked up the most.
Then she rolls me back on to my back and sits on top of me sliding JR in and slowly rocking back and forth just teasing me enough that I was about to explode right then. I held off and told her to turn around and we did it doggie style for a few minutes then missionary to competition and exhaustion.
She and I just laid there for a few minutes holding each other and kissing then she starts rubbing JR to full attention and wants to go at it again. So we did it doggie style this time. I was able to talk her into giving me her numbers for an out of agency visit later during the week before I head back home.
If anyone is planning a trip to Guadalajara, PM me for her digits. I can attest to the quality of this young body being all real and willing to play what ever game you want. Make sure to bring a digital camera she seemed to enjoy it once I assured her no facial shots.
I’ve included two pictures for your viewing pleasure I would rate her a SOLID “9” !
Enjoy and be safe.
Here is another photo to enjoy.
Finally got the pics developed! Here is my beautiful novia dancing for papi.
More of my tapatia hermosa.
Here I am going to work on those great chichis.
She looks so satisfied riding me. Sorry I had to block out her eyes fellas. She has typical beautiful Guadalajara girl's eyes.
Sorry guys, this is the first cowgirl pic.
Sorry about the un-centered quality of this one guys, but I must include it b/c spooning is one of our fav. positions. She's 5'2" and I'm 6'6", so it's among the most practical.
I forgot to attach the pic of me sucking on her titties.
hey Mongerers,
I'm going to Guadalajara today for tonight(probably no time tonight) and then again on Friday night( I have time on Friday night..LOL). Any up to date advice is appreciated!
Saludos
Rico cafe
Hey guys,
I post in the Morelia section, but I'm just letting you know that they have been advertising the Sexotic Expo in Guadalajara from the 19th to the 22nd at the Salon Fiesta Guadalajara. It appears to be some sort of convention for sex shop retailers, but they also announced that there would be strippers, oil wrestling and other surprises. They also gave a web address, but it doesn't work ([url]www._sexotico.com.mx[/url]).
If you are in Guadalajara, you may want to check this out just for the heck of it. Report if you do.
Just returned from two weeks in Mexico. Spent four days in GDL area, and enjoyed sessions at Ghisha Masculina, Estetica Jovi, the orange door at Ave 5 de Mayo, and also caught a cheap one on the street. Ah, I do love GDL! Ghisha was a treat at $400, and the young lady was special. I also visited High Class, but their price has gone up, and the quality has not followed suit! This was my first visit to Jovi, and I did not feel the high price ($900) was reasonable. The lady was nice, and the session was good, but I have had equal sessions at High Class in the past at half the price.
In hindsight, the real treat of the visit to GDL was the cheapie I caught on the street. After I had visited the Orange Door, I was just exploring the neighborhood, and caught "the look" from a waif near the corner of Ave 16 Sept and Jaurez. Area was a little shakey, but at 2PM on a beautiful day, I felt safe. Anyway, after we agreed upon $100 for her and $50 for a room, we visited the Suburbia Hotel near that corner. I insisted she take a shower, and we had a fine session, followed by a nap. We finished it off with another round, and parted friends.
I love Mexico!
Hey, all. I went to Guadalajara for a 5 day trip Halloween weekend, and stopped by High Class on a Sunday afternoon at about 5. You really can't miss it, it's just off of the roundabout and they put balloons outside all around the doorway (neighboring residents must love that). You walk straight down a hallway where a man sitting behind a desk and girls are sitting on chairs throughout the reception area. I very attractive blonde (say an 8) with a nice body (about a 7 but the tits were a 10) stood up and asked me to follow her. I imagine that you can negotiate for different women, but I liked her looks and obliged. You walk past the pseudo hair styling area and into a hallways of various massage rooms. The room is simple with a room for a toilet, a shower, a sink, a hottub and a relatively small narrow wooden massage table (I stand 6'2'' 220lb and was a little uncomforable there) with decent padding.
Immediately, she asked what I wanted and I said everything and how much? She said $50USD which sounded good, and then she asked if I wanted to shower, but I just had at the hotel so denied the offer. I gave her the money, she left, and I stripped down. She began with a really horrendous massage on my back and then asked me to flip over. She then massaged my front and started playing with little AL, which led to a BBBJ and then the always lovely condom came on. She rode my reverse cowgirl for awhile and then we flipped to missionary to completion. I'm used to the AMPs so was a little disappointed when I had to clean myself up while she showered. She escorted me out and that was that.
AL
A couple Tuesdays back, my friend and I went to the bar mentioned in an earlier post, called Tropicaliso. It's across from the Mariachi plaza and depending on the night you might need to pay a 25 peso cover. Tuesday we didn't but Sunday I did. We were flying out the next morning and had drunk a lot of tequila earlier in the night watching the election results come in, so we opted for single beers and not the buckets. I hadn't really checked this board before we went so I didn't really know the deal beyond that it was late and this was open. More or less, women are sitting at tables in groups as a live band plays. At the beginning of each song, the guys, mostly mexican, will walk up to the women, ask them to dance, and as the song ends they all return to their respective tables. The next song starts 30 seconds later, the guys re-approach usually the same women and then ask them to dance again. This goes on and on and on. I just thought this was a really bad mexican pickup place.
Well, at the table next to us there was a 35-40 year old woman who was about an 8 with a younger friend who was about a 3. She was completely lit and as she walked back to her table from one of the random dances, she approached me and said in Spanish that she loves me, which she then changed to she likes me. Well, my spanish is quite good, but she mostly spoke in horribly drunken spanglish so the conversationly was at the same time overly entertaining and overly frustrating. She said she liked to dance but didn't 'work here' like the other girls. We spoke for a while, danced a few times, discussed why my friend wouldn't even look at her friend, etc. It was getting late, so I told her I was going to leave. She said ok, $30usd for me and my friend. I said my friend wasn't interested in hers. She pointed out that she meant $30 for her, her friend, and me. $30 for a 3-way!? But her friend was so hideous that I settled for a $10 blowjob in the stairs.
Overall, the women were relatively attractive in general, but the layout and procedures were just a little too odd for me. Might as well hit one of the esteticas and get it over with and then hit a real bar and try for a real Guadalajaran.
AL
Well chalk it up to experience...I asked what there was to do in Guadalajara and I didn't recheck the boards before actually going. So what did I do? I and an associate celebrated a successful business trip with too much excellent tequila and great Cuban cigars at The Mens Club which is a really nice place but expensive. Beautiful women, great atmosphere, all first class...but I should have read the boards....a sex expo at the same time I was there? Oh that would have been a treat I'm sure...damn!!!
Rico
Have any of you run across a girl named Naomi? I know, common name, but here is a pic. Let me know where I might be able to fing her.
Thanks
The deal I got there was if I bought a bucket I could get the girl for $500p at my room for one hour (or however long I could further negotiate).
It was late, I was getting a bad buzz and the music was so fucking loud I opted out. Also, the selection was something only the locals could appreciate. Not a "must see" on your tour but if you speak Spanish and have the time you could luck out and find something interesting to drag around for the evening.
I'm still not over my last trip there. Jeez. I miss Guadalajara big time.
Country John
It has been close to one year since I have visited GDL. Can someone give me an update on the best massage parlors (of coarse inexpensive) and Table dance clubs.
JC
Besides the MP and Bars. Does anyone know of any good "room service".
JC
[url]http://www.modelosgalilea.com[/url]
044333-454-5143
Boys, did I ever find another Aztec treasure here. I called the agency Modelos Galilea and the man that answered, Ramon, spoke good enough English so I selected the number of the girl I wanted. He told me to pick two more in case she wasn’t available. He called back in about 5 minutes saying that he had a special girl for me. Yeah sure, sounded like a hustle to me. He explained that none of the girls that I picked speak English and that this girl he has chosen speaks very good English. We agreed that if I didn’t like her, he would go get my first choice and bring her back.
He called when he arrived the hotel with his choice of girls and out stepped one of the most beautiful girls I’ve seen in GDL. He introduced Daniella to me and asked if she was fine. Of course she was and I’ll see you in a couple of hours as I grabbed that cute little ass and walked away.
Daniella is about 5’1” tall, maybe around 100 lbs. Big beautiful Guadalajara eyes and perfect smile and face. A handful of tits and a double handful of ass. Oh Lord, was I gonna enjoy this.
We got to my room and ten minutes later our conversation led to the bed and she promptly raised her blouse and removed her bra, exposing the cutest set of perky nipples that hardened on touch. Rubbing her back and pawing her tits, I just had to see that pretty little ass. As I removed her pants and then her panties, she unzipped my pants and pulled out an already pounding hard on. Her lips locked on and commenced one hellava BBBJ. Wishing not for me to blow my load in her mouth, she asked if I would like a massage.
Later on, I returned the favor, as I couldn’t keep my hands off her smooth soft skin. Diving between her legs, once I turned her over, my face was covered in sticky wetness. I had her begging for dick and could have fucked her bareback but common sense took control. On came the coat and various positions later I filled the rubber as I tried reaching her navel from inside.
With that, she rolled off and curled herself into me as if we were one person. Kissing my arm and purring like a kitten, she didn’t want to leave. We lay there for several minutes like teenagers and my dick got hard again. Saying it was about time to leave, she pulled the already used rubber off and gave me a quick hand job that ended with a splash all over her tits.
Daniella attends a local university studying English. She told me that I was the 5th customer since she started working. Daniela is 21 but loves ya like she’s more mature.
When you call, ask for Daniella, the English speaking girl, because she isn’t listed on the website yet. She cost just alittle more ($250) but she is certainly worth it. I had to wait a few weeks before I posted this, contemplating whether I wanted the rest of you guys to know about this treasure but realized that it’s my duty to report both good and bad. I better not hear that one of you mistreated her and made her leave the business. What a loss that would be.
Have fun,
Bone
was that 250 pesos or $250 US dollars! I cannot believe you paid that much in dollars! You must work for the agency.
No I dont work for the agency as you can see my post from many places all over the world for the past 3-4 years. You dont become a senior member by working for some agency. Read the rules of the forum.
And it's not unusual to pay that much money for top shelf escorts in Mexico.
Bone
I have been searching the whole forum for information regarding girl-friendly hotels in Guadalajara and mexico city without much success ! Can anyone help ?
Regards,
Sunny Kalla
My experience in GDL is that every hotel is girl friendly if you handle it right. To have the girl show up unannounced or unescorted is a mistake especially if you are in a strange land.
Upon check in, tell them that your girlfriend is arriving later and when she does you will meet her in the lobby, and you will call from your room with her name etc.
Meet the security guys, shake their hand, say hello and tell them the same thing. It only takes a minute and it's a good idea anyway.
If you are ordering out, get a name to give the front desk people. When she arrives she will call you. That's protocol. They don't like letting girls go up the elevator alone.
When you go to the lobby they will NOT hassle you or the girl if you are cool. Now they know the real story, you are just taking the matter in hand so they don't have to interrogate the girl or worry about who she is. If they give you a hard time, tell them to check you OUT. I've done this and it works.
Bone is Hard did not overspend. He would have easily spent more at a club buying ficha drinks, paying a bar fine etc. He actually saved a few bucks so WELL DONE based on your trip report.
I find Mexico different from other places in that they expect you to behave yourself and act with dignity and respect. When you don't do this, are an asshole or some other kind of undesirable they will tend to "clip your wings."
This is more the case at the nicer hotels. The 2 stars could care less in most cases.
When you act as though you know what you're doing they are less likely to worry about you getting strung up in your room by some criminal chica, or getting ripped off after you leave the hotel.
Having a chica come to your room discreetly is nothing new in Mexico. It's how you handle it and how you behave that will determine what kind of treatment you'll receive. Try it next time. You might be surprised.
Country John
I'm trying to find one chica in GDL Megan, 25, big tatoo on her belly.
Any help?
Thanks
Can anyone comment on a club called ramses? I don't know if they allow this here, but there web site is [url]www.tabledance.com.mx/php/clientes.php?id=24[/url]
I found this place surfing around. Just thought someone might have some info on it.
Fuzz,
Went to Ramses about 5 years ago, nothing special, typical chica/strip club where you can take the girl out for about 1K pesos.
BTW, I'll be in Guad in a couple of weeks and of will be heading to my fav MP's
Jet City & World Mens, but wanted to try other places, looking for any recomendations, names/directions.
Thanks,
Maloso
Thanks Maloso,
I am trying to plan a (driving) trip there next month. Still much to consider. Safety being on the top of the list. But this was one place I had heard about. I met a girl in Mexicali who works at this bar in Guada. I'm sure there are a few I will learn about. I just hope this is worth the trip. I'm planning on staying there about a week or so.
Thanks for the info.
DanTheMan and I are planning AlleyKat 53 in Guadalajara. How is the weather? I'll be seeing my all time fav the FABULOUS Kenia. A true princess. A real beauty. She stole my heart. I can't wait. I'm giggling like a silly child.
Country John
DanTheMan and I are planning AlleyKat 53 in Guadalajara. How is the weather? I'll be seeing my all time fav the FABULOUS Kenia. A true princess. A real beauty. She stole my heart. I can't wait. I'm giggling like a silly child.
Country John
During a recent 3 day business trip to Guadalajara, I considered it my duty towards the members of this forum to do some basic research about topics concerning our hobby ? the posts of the last half year lack some hard information. To be frank, own experience during these days was limited, but I think I can present valuable reference material that probably make things easier to my successors. The reference section of this post might get amended a few days after the initial post, when I am back home, so check in again.
Preface: I am spoilt. My standards are set by top class German FKK?s like Palace or Schieferhof, and by the lovely chicas of Buenos Aires. Both quality- and pricewise. Concerning the latter, U$S 250,- buy 1.5 hours in the FKK?s, including admission, or 3 to 4 very satisfying sessions in Argentina. All prices mentioned in this report are in US ? Dollars. More preface, I speak spanish, far from fluent, but enough to take me through several Buenos Aires dinners with an extremly juicy dessert.
Preparing my trip, I started by collecting information on the Net. It is quite easy to find a few escort sites in Mexico, but unfortunately 99.9% of the ads in these sites are for Mexico city. Some have sections for other cities, for example Preciosas, but the entries for Guadalajara are, politely said, of overseeable quantity.
Googleing ?escorts guadalajara? results besides the usual spam 2 sites, chicasmg and modelosgalilea. The layout of these sites is so similar that I suppose it might be the same agency behind it ? they ARE agencies, not a site of individually advertising independent girls. Deeper net research puts out a few more, i.e. venecia and tapatias, and a few independent girls. To be mentioned is directorio, a search engine that can be fed among other criteria with a city name. The database behind it may however be outdated, many of the links in search results led into digital nirwana.
I sent emails to about 6 girls and got 3 responses. Seemed to be a decent score, and armed with that and some downloads on the laptop I arrived in GDL.
Day1:
Decided not to use one of my email results, but to get Naomi flom venecia instead. Called, a guy speaking very understandable spanish answered and told that he was making the appointments of Naomi, and, yes, she would be available, It would, however, not be easy to get through security of my hotel. I gave my room number. 5 min. later, he called back, to confirm. 15 min later another guy with nuch less ujnderstandable spanish called, talked a lot, and I destilled out of that, that they would be coming. 15 more minutes later, a knock at my door, and the pimp asked me to come downstairs to have a look.
Look: either (5% probability) Naomi ate far too many tacos since the pictures on the website have been taken, or (95%) plain bait and switch. I agreed anyway, up we went and started the desaster of my life. Undressed, she laid on the bed and passively waited what to happen. No kisses, not much caressing, a hint of a CBJ, cowgirl, whatever was left of my woody went away. Venecia not to be recommended.
What I did do on day one was call my favourite email result, lardiente. Her website sounds a bit semi ? pro, and lets expect a GFE, and in the mail she asked for a day?s advance notice. Reached her, and agreeds that I would call the next day arounf 7 pm to set up details.
Day2:
At 7, I called lardiente. She answered the phone, and we agreed to meet that night. I told her in which hotel I stayed, and she did not know it. Asked for a street address. The notepad besides the hotel phone had only a PO Box. I wanted to f**k on my bed, not a box. Went on searching for the f**king address. Suddenly, the phone went dead. No big deal, happens sometimes with cellphones. Since then I tried to call her every 5 minutes while not working or sleeping, and always got the message that the number called would be temporarily not available, and I would be suggested to try later?.
After about an hour, when I could repeat the message in spanish backwards, I started to call backups. No. 2 of my email canidates answered. According to the background noise, she was in heavy combat with some video game. She knew my hotel, but decided that it was way too far ($ 7,- taxi from downtown) and went on shooting.
After another hour of listening to at least 6 varieties of the ?not available? message ? one per cellphone service provider - I decided to try one of the agencies and called chicasmg. After some discussion with the girl who answered the phone (which girl is is available ? almost everyone ? girl no. 35 ? oh, unfortunately not?..) she decided to get someone who speaks english. This apparently invoked Gringo pricing. I got a quote of $ 230,- which I declined.
I called it a day (or, better, night) and went to bed unf***ed.
Day 3:
Lardiente?s cellphone seems to be in need of major repair. The different backup?s also. I had no desire to add to my collection of ?not available? messages, and took the phone book, Yellow Pages. Under ?esteticas masculinas? (Yes, in Guadalajara brothels are disguised as barber shops, maybe you really can get a hair cut) I found one called ?Thailand?, over which I already had stumbled on the net, with a really nice ad promising the most beautiful girls for the distinguishing gentleman, and at least 10 cities where they would be, and an address, ?installations open 24 hrs?.
Took a taxi, went there. Unmarked building, inside - a barber shop, including the chairs. A middle aged woman, who was a bad example of the result of ungoing abuse of mexican food, took me upstairs into a room with a massage table, a jacuzzi, and a shower and exlained the price structure. I asked her to see the girls. 3 of them presented themselves, rated between 2 and 4. I took the 4, full service, $ 80,-. What happened was a decent massage, CBJ, and cowgirl. The distinguishin gentleman in me, who had expected a selection of maybe 20 chicas ranged 6 to 9 to enjoy on premises or take out remained a bit unsatisfied.
Bottom line:
My opinion: Guadalajara is NOT a mongering destination. Maybe there are gems to be found, but I just did not find them.
Day 4:
I am on a flight to Mexico City. There might be more in that section.
Reference:
First, the various websites mentioned in the text above:
Preciosas: [url]www.preciosasxxx.com[/url] - a site with escort ads, mainly Mexico City
Chicasmg: [url]www.chicasmg.com[/url] escort agency in Guadalajara
Modelosgalilea: [url]www.modelosgalilea.com[/url] - dto.
Venecia: [url]www.veneciagdl.com[/url] - dto.
Tapatias: [url]http://tapatias.20m.com[/url] dto
Directorio: [url]http://bd.servicio-x.com[/url] A searchable database of providers in Mexico
Lardiente: link comes soon
Straight out of Guadalajara?s Yellow Pages, unverified:
[url]www.misensación.com[/url]
[url]www.plebeyas.com[/url]
[url]www.intimoo.com[/url]
Is there ANY ACTIVITY of a mongering nature in the Lake Chapala area? I have had good luck several times in the GDL, but never had any good luck lakeside. Best I can report is a bored housewife type that I picked up at a bar near Chapala Country Club last November. But I have never found any commericial activity in any of the lakeside communities. Anyone else?
El Aleman, so sorry you had a bad experience in GDL. It can be a tough town to crack but you are right, there are some gems to be found.
My tact in a place like that is to bar hop. Get an early start and keep the drinking down, don't overload or you won't make it through the night to enjoy the sex.
I do this because the girls who are WORKING are probably working the clubs. Outcall means taking some chica away from her family or work to come by the room. some are just getting out of bed, some are enroute to a club etc. You get my drift.
For a few bucks you can hire a taxi for the evening to shuttle you around and you can change cabs if you think you are getting ripped.
Hopefully next time you'll have a better experience. I left my heart in Guadalajara.
Country John
El Aleman,
What a nightmare! I think it is time to change your technigues and tactics. There are countless Esteticas that employ young, beautiful, eager to please girls.Ask any cabbie in town - he will be more than happy to show you many! Simply driving the main Avenues will reveal many if you don't like cabbies.
Prices range from 450 pesos to 1000 pesos. You will have your choice of Chicas. Pick one that suits your taste, and she will do nearly anything that pleases you. They are trained to make you happy. Paying over 800 pesos is a waste, the best girls do not necessarily cost the most. Propinas are optional, and for all our benefit, give only when exceptional service has been rendered.
There are five times as many Men's Club's as there are Esteticas. Some are huge clip joints, some employ only Gorditas, but many are a barrel of fun. Be patient and not afraid to walk out and move on to the next joint. You can indulge on site or make arrangements for another time as you please. There are many, many beautiful Chicas to be had. 90% of the time you will be able make your deal with them without an intermediary.
Have fun and good hunting.
I agree with Marty 2. I have now visited GDL three times in the past two years, and my Spanish vocabulary can be counted with two hands.
Visits to Esteticas have worked best for me. I have no trouble explaining what I am interested in, and the selection of sweethearts is always reasonable. There are many MPs to chose from, and I have no problem walking out if I don't like the selection available! I fomerly went to High Class, but after they raised their prices, I have visited several others in the neighborhood north of the Sears store. I have never paid more that 500 P, and always come away happy.
Just got home from another great day in Guadalajara. Went to High Class mid-afternoon, and yes, thay have raised their prices. From 450 to 500 pesos. The 45 bucks there is a bargain! After High Class stopped at 3-4 men's clubs.
Back to HC. There were 6-7 girls to choose from, and my best estimate is that there were 3 or 4 more occupado. No gorditas today and nothing less than a 6. I opted for Monica. Face = 10. Body = 8. Attitude = 9. Personality = 10. Talent = 8.
Started out with a 5 minute English class. I had won her over and then went to a little get to know, you touchy - feely. Then came the bbj, oral installation of the condom, and a great ride. Upside down, right side up, sideways, all wonderful. Finished her off (or did she finish me off?) doggie style, with us watching ourselves in the mirror. While showering and dressing afterward she invited me to accompany her to a club on Federalisimo, the name of which I cannot remember, sometime in the future. My Spanish is approx 60%, and as best I understood her explain, there were dancers on stage, a male & female that after a time, they did the wild thing in front of all. Couples then paired up with other couples, went elsewhere in the building and then went at it with their new found horney friends. Because I will be in Vallarta next weekend and Aguascalientes City the following, this place will have to wait. I will report if I do get there.
Try High Class, you will like it. I guarantee it! The owner is there most of the time, his name is Pancho. He sits at a desk in the front. Showing him a little respect will help your cause. He likes to take a few breaks at the cantina next door. I once bought him a cerveza and he is now my friend for life.
Great move, Marty 2 with Pancho. I've seen him there, but was always on the phone when I walked in. Stopped to speak to him while walking out a few months ago, but another customer walked in, and he acted like he was greeting his long-lost-brother. Maybe that was you! Anyway, catching him at the bar next door was a great move. I'm sure his has already showed his appreciation. I will give HC anaother chance, based upon your recomendation.
Have you tried Estetica Jovi, a few blocks west of HC? They want $900 P, but the ladies are step up from HC. Not sure if the additional $$ is worth it tho. I have had excellent luck at both Geisha Masculine and at Nefertiti Masculine Estetica, just a few blocks North of the Sears store, near the Mission Carlton Hotel. Generally $350P plus a $50P tip if you're happy. A little more difficult to find, but worth it, IMHO.
Have you had any luck at the Hotel Paris? That is on my short list for my next visit to the area, May 20th thru May 30th.
Thanks for the reccomendations World Wise. Of the places you mention, Jovi is the only is the only one that I have visited. I will check the other two out in the near future.
My first trip to Jovi was a great success. Gorgeous young, very young, chica. My second visit was a walk-out. Only two or three chubby, rather unattractive girls available. Rather than wait for a good one to become available, I went the short distance to HC.
I should tell you that the next time you visit HC, ask for Paloma. She will rock your world! There is one other very special girl whose name escapes me at the moment. Shaved beaver that is oh so sweet. I will let you know her name when my alzheimers attack is over.
Will you stay at the Hotel Paris while here? I have never been there.
I will share some of my Men's Club experiences in Guad at a later date. There are a couple to avoid like the plague. There are also a few that I have seen while driving, but never visited.
Marty 2, No, I stay at a B&B out in Tlaquepaque called Don Jose. It is a lovely area, but real accessible to the city, plus to the Lakeside area.
I have not visited it, but I understand Hotel Paris is a bar that has our type of ladies, safe, and reasonable. I plan to seek it out when I visit GDL in May. I was just wondering if you had any experience with Hotel Paris.
i've been in rooms in the hotel paris a couple of times, years ago, and if this is the same place, i'd highly recommend you don't stay there. it's a *****house, and the rooms are skanky. so are the women. although i've gone with two, in maybe 5 or 6 visits i've run across a grand total of one i'd truly call attractive (7 or higher). unfortunately she was occupied at the time. again, if we're talking about the same place (located close to downtown tourist district and lipstick), it didn't seem like a particularly safe neighborhood either.
i've been to gdl a lot on business, and as such wasn't having to watch the pocketbook too closely. quinta real is by far nicest place i've stayed at. second place would be hilton. these places will run $150+. presidente (intercontinental) and crown plaza would be around $90-$120, and they're both nice, although a/c can be weak in both, depending on room. howard johnson's at $80 is o.k. hotel vista plaza del sol is relatively cheap, maybe $60, and nicely located, although a/c is always a problem in summer.
i really like hotel tapatia, which is located on a hill between the airport and downtown. it's not expensive either, maybe around $50 to $70. it's kind of got a low class resort atmosphere, and you'd think you were in the country instead of the middle of a city. this place must cover about 40 acres. fantastic pool, tennis courts, lots of gardens, and a great view of the city at night. rooms are very large. it's located close to about 3 lower-priced strip bars on the road that goes to the airport. otherwise, location is lousy if you're going to be taking taxis. if you have your own car or are looking for a romantic spot, i'd definitely recommend it. and there's no walk of shame to your room -- you can drive your car right up to your room. in fact, this place is renowned as a location where people who are having extramarital affairs sneak away to, because it is secluded.
i think if i were going and were on a budget and were looking to monger, i might try the motel between jovi and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] esteticas -- great location, close to high class as well.
on subject of jovi, i've had good experiences there too, much better than [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. the women in jovi on average aren't quite as attractive, although usually you'll find at least one hottie. and the attitude of every chica i've had there was very good. gfe was the norm, and i can't recall ever having been rushed.
also, about the strip clubs, the prices for sex in higher end strip clubs are ridiculous, or at least they are in kaos and ramses. but most of the women realize this and will give you their phone numbers to set up something for the next day. the low end strip clubs aren't unreasonably priced. with regard to clubs close to hotel tapatia & airport mentioned in post below, i was quoted $50 to $60, but didn't partake. that's without negotiation.
great section btw. i haven't been able to post here until recently, but have benefited from material about guadalajara posted here.
thanks
Sorry, name of highly recommended hotel is "El Tapatio" , not Tapatia.
Rest assured, Tiny, that I had no intention of staying there, but only 'mongering' there. I will check it out next month when I visit GDL in May.
i noticed on my last visit to gdl that the holiday inn select is within reasonable walking distance to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and high class. there is also a mens club down the street from the hotel (sorry, but i have not been there or remember the name).
[quote=tiny 12]i've been in rooms in the hotel paris a couple of times, years ago, and if this is the same place, i'd highly recommend you don't stay there. it's a *****house, and the rooms are skanky. so are the women. although i've gone with two, in maybe 5 or 6 visits i've run across a grand total of one i'd truly call attractive (7 or higher). unfortunately she was occupied at the time. again, if we're talking about the same place (located close to downtown tourist district and lipstick), it didn't seem like a particularly safe neighborhood either.
i've been to gdl a lot on business, and as such wasn't having to watch the pocketbook too closely. quinta real is by far nicest place i've stayed at. second place would be hilton. these places will run $150+. presidente (intercontinental) and crown plaza would be around $90-$120, and they're both nice, although a/c can be weak in both, depending on room. howard johnson's at $80 is o.k. hotel vista plaza del sol is relatively cheap, maybe $60, and nicely located, although a/c is always a problem in summer.
i really like hotel tapatia, which is located on a hill between the airport and downtown. it's not expensive either, maybe around $50 to $70. it's kind of got a low class resort atmosphere, and you'd think you were in the country instead of the middle of a city. this place must cover about 40 acres. fantastic pool, tennis courts, lots of gardens, and a great view of the city at night. rooms are very large. it's located close to about 3 lower-priced strip bars on the road that goes to the airport. otherwise, location is lousy if you're going to be taking taxis. if you have your own car or are looking for a romantic spot, i'd definitely recommend it. and there's no walk of shame to your room -- you can drive your car right up to your room. in fact, this place is renowned as a location where people who are having extramarital affairs sneak away to, because it is secluded.
i think if i were going and were on a budget and were looking to monger, i might try the motel between jovi and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] esteticas -- great location, close to high class as well.[/quote]
I posted in March, inquiring if anyone had any luck mongering in the Lake Chapala area. The total lack of any responce makes me wonder why none of the 20,000 to 30,000 North Americans living in the area from GDL south to Lake Chapala post on this board. Everyone can't have a live-in, can they?
I know it is quickly becoming the 'off season' but there must be SOMEONE else out there who enjoys our type of 'sport'. Please shoot me a note.
Mongering in Chapala is nearly, but not totally non-existant. There are a couple of houses, one in Jocotepec, one in San Antonio Tlaycapan. I would not recommend either of them. But if you insist on not spending the 45 minutes it takes to drive to Guad, try them. There is also Motel Eddy's (has a bar) about 15 kilometers north of Chapala on the Carratera. It specializes in 180 pounders. Don't waste your time if someone suggests it. My very best advice would be to visit the taxi stand area on the plaza, chum around with the drivers a bit. They will probably take you to a private residence. Make sure that they understand you are not interested in Gorditas (unless you do like fat girls).
On a positive note, I visited High Class this afternoon. Pickings were not as good as usual, but as always, I left with a big smile on my face. Pancho trains his girls well.
Good hunting.
[QUOTE=World Wise]I posted in March, inquiring if anyone had any luck mongering in the Lake Chapala area. The total lack of any responce makes me wonder why none of the 20,000 to 30,000 North Americans living in the area from GDL south to Lake Chapala post on this board. Everyone can't have a live-in, can they?
I know it is quickly becoming the 'off season' but there must be SOMEONE else out there who enjoys our type of 'sport'. Please shoot me a note.[/QUOTE]There is a "Zona" in Ocotlan and like the other member said, taxis sometimes know where to go. I've been to the Zona in O. and it's hit and miss. Sometimes you'll get some beauties and sometimes it's bone dry. The only drawback is these are all cantinas so you are jumping from bar to bar. The same goes for La Barca. Guadalajara has everyone beat with the esteticas. this is the place and it is definitely worth the drive.
Good luck!
Marty 2 and John02,
Thanks for your response. I have rented a casa in Ajijic for a week, and will only have a car available for one day or maybe two. I was trying to plan ahead for those days when GDL was more than a local taxi ride away. Since I'm not into large women, maybe I should just kick back and take advantage to the limited access that I will have to GDL.
Since I speak very limited Spanish, how do you ask a taxi driver to take you to the local cat house? In Nam we used to say fuckie-fuckie, but I'm concerned that might be misunderstood in Ajijic. Any directions for me?
Worldwise,
"Donde esta las putas?" (pootas) will work. You may want to add "Quisiera panoche" for effect.
There are a couple of bars adjacent to the plaza in Ajijic where you may be able to locate a freebie. Maybe a Mexicana, maybe a Gringa.
Good luck
Hey Marty,
I read your posts recommending use of the local esteticas in Guadalajara. Thanks for all the good information in all your posts. Is an extetica a "beauty shop"? Who are the usual customers? What is the typical setup at one of these esteticas? I'm headed to Guadalajara in a couple weeks and will try one out, but wanted to be a little more comfortable before going in. This is my first trip to Guad. and appreciate any suggestions.
Clodbuster
[QUOTE=World Wise]I posted in March, inquiring if anyone had any luck mongering in the Lake Chapala area. The total lack of any responce makes me wonder why none of the 20,000 to 30,000 North Americans living in the area from GDL south to Lake Chapala post on this board. Everyone can't have a live-in, can they?
I know it is quickly becoming the 'off season' but there must be SOMEONE else out there who enjoys our type of 'sport'. Please shoot me a note.[/QUOTE]-----------------------
You have to be kidding <smile>. I have lived Lakeside for the better part of a year (have a casa). There is no action among the Gringas nor even a swinging set (those walkers get in the way). Now that's not to say you may not be able to hook up with a nice Mexican chica (and I can't believe how good some of them look, 8++) but I don't speak Spanish so, who knows).
As for Guad, I hate going in there for the traffic and crime, especially at night.
T.
I have been to Guad. two times this year, the first time for a two week school at IMAC, which I read a good post from this website and decided to go to Guad instead of Guan. I had the best time of my life.
I love Guadalajara, I didn't have any problems or hear of any while I was there. I have been to many dangerous cities in the U.S. and I felt more comfortable there.
The women are to die for. I couldn't take my eyes off them. I didn't see many fat women and I did notice that had a large group of young people, I didn't see alot of single looking middle age women (maybe they stay home and take care of the family).
I had one woman I called out of the yellow book, she was great, she didn't want to stop after I was done. The bad part was I had to pay for her taxi ride over to my hotel. Guad has two large yellow books, at first, I looked in one book and couldn't find anything-plus I didn't know any spanish. Then I found the second book and called an agency, some advertise english speaking receptionist.
I had met a woman on the internet who lived there and we met up after the third day I arrived. We hit it off which was good because I had steady action during the rest of my stay but it was also bad because I couldn't get any variety.
We visited Lake Chapala but I didn't get to see the "American" side of the town. We arrived at the bus station (cheap fare from Guad) we went to some market and they had some boat rides out to some island but the rides were expensive.
All in all, Guad is a great city, the people where nice. I would go back again but I hate the airport hassles so I wait until I have a long vacation and then take one long trip instead of maybe 2 or 3 short trips.
You hit the nail right on the head, Eststicas are beauty parlors. Look for Estsica Masculina's if you prefer panoche to getting your nails done. haha.
As for traffic and crime. Don't listen to the girly men. Guadalajara moves more people, more efficently and safely, than any city that I have experienced. There are subwys, many cabs and busses, and very many cars. I go into the city at least once a week, more often twice, and have never had a problem. It will take considerable effort on your part to find trouble in Guad. The bus terminal area is a place to avoid. The main bus terminal in Tonala is as nice as most east coast airports in the US. The executive bus lines are great, if you want to travel to other cities.
99% of the people here are wonderful. Always be polite and if you know only a few words in Spanish, use them. They will appreciate your effort. You will be amazed at how much English is spoken here.
Enjoy your visit.
I did not answer you in full. Lo siento.
Most customers are Mexicans, obviously. Generally young and decent. There seem to be more Asian customers than American. I have never seen another Gringo on any of my visits to either an Estetica or MP.
More often than not, one of the girls will greet you, take you aside for an explanation of the "menu", and then the available girls will parade by and introduce themselves. You need only remember the name of the chica that want. Don't speak Spanish? Chances are good that someone in the place does. If not, use sign language.
go back to page 11 of this thread and you will find out everythging you want to know about "estetica masculinas" or massage parlors in the city. the best place is on avenida lazaro cradenas where 3 places are all within 5 minute walking distance.they are [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] (no joke)high class and jovi.normally [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is
higher priced,but i have had better service at the others.if you don't see your type at one place it is an easy walk to the others.always ask to see all the girls when you enter,some times the girl in front will try to latch on to you because she wants a customer. i always pay for the half hour and then ask for the hour if she is good, i also tell the girl this to motivate her . do not tip these girls $20 or pay more than 450 pesos for the half hour.remember you are in mexico so don't compare prices to the us. it is easy to get these girls to go out with you also. they do not work evenings and many are from out of town and living in hotels. don't offer them money just a drink or dinner
thats all it takes.also try to go between noon & 2 before the mexican lunch crowd.there are many other esteticas throughout the city...jet set is another good one on avenida mexico its a little more upscale. one estetica to avoid is thailandia in colonia chapalita.
i have a business in guadalajara and go there for a week each month. i also lived there for 2 years until last november. the women are beautiful and very feminine. very gringo friendly,there is a shortage of men in guadalajara. the esteicas are great while you are developing amateur relationships at night you can hit the esteticas during the day.after i lived there 2 months i never went to the esteticas or table dance because the local women were so friendly.
also has street walker action on lopez mateos on the side street between the sanborns and inter continental hotel, after 10 but watch out for the trannies about 40%. don't no prices because have never been a customer.
good luck, renegade
for table dance try nuevo galleon,this is a local place but safe even though the street is darkout front, is on tavenida 16 de septiembre.
Hi guys,
I am going to be in gdl soon for a few days and i basically have a few free days to do whatever I wanna do after gdl and i was thinking of going out towards Cancun for a few days. Is it possible to buy a cheap non gringo priced return ticket in GDL at a travel agency and if so how much would that be on average on short notice (3 days in advance)? I am with a Mexican friend so he will be doing all the bargaining saving me getting gringo prices!
Thanx in advance,
Gabe
Gringo prices? No such thing.You are not in TJ. Buy your ticket at the airport. Why all the way to Cancun? Tourist trap. Manzanillo is great this time of year. Take a 3 hour bus ride and spend your extra dollars/pesos on panoche. If you insist on Cancun, help is not needed with airfare. Lighten up and have fun.
Well, I am delighted to say that I've got a three day trip to GDL (3 nights) and I am almost beside myself with anticipation. My heart is still there from my last trip. I learned that my girl is still working and is still private stock to a club owner who doesn't fuck her like I do.
She just turned 20 and is an absolute doll. She had a hard time leaving the hotel last session. She cried like a kid. I had a hard time leaving too. It was one of THOSE trips.
My wingman, DanTheMan is making the trip as my interpreter, body guard and fellow *****monger. He has his heart set on a nice dish too from last time out. He also straightened me out on what this trip is all about so I'm gonna try to have at least ONE foot on the ground.
I'm in the Zona in TJ all the time and I got my favs but I have to say that this trip puts a spring in my step and a gleam in my eye.
SEE YOU T H E R E!
Country John
Can anyone tell me what are the operating hours at High Class? Also when is the best time to go for selection.
I know they open at 10AM every day, seven days per week. I believe they are open to at least 10PM, but maybe later. I have never been there later than that.
When I visit there three times the last week of May, I found a great selection on a Sat. at about 1PM. Must have been 8 or 9 girls, and three really attractive ones, too. I was there on a Thurs at 4PM and there were six girls that I noticed, and maybe another that was occupied. I was also at High Class on a Sunday morning right at opening. There were five ladies there, and two more came in within minutes. They always seem agreeable to a line-up, so it is easy to keep track.
Those green and yellow balloons are really obnoxious. They are arranged in an arch, and are visable for blocks. But they are effective for finding the place!
Nope. Not open that late. Closes at either 8 or 9, can't remember which.
High Class is open from 10-8
World Wise is right on the best time 1 PM, the Mexican lunch hour is between 2-4
Dickhead- When are you coming back to Guadalajara, they miss you at Nuevo Galleon
Not any time soon. Guadalajara is okay but Buenos Aires is paradise. 1 PM? I'm not even done throwing up by then. I had good luck around 5 or 6. BTW that Dominicana from NG actually showed up at my hotel but she was an hour late and I left after 45 minutes.
Thanks everyone on answering my questions on High Class. Unfortunately I have not been able to go because they close too early in the evening.
Can anyone recommend a good estetica that is open late that is reasonably priced with good service?
Gman
There are none that I know of that are open after 8PM. Guadalajara tries to put on a conservative image.
Strip clubs or amateurs are best in the evening depending on your language skills.
Ill Be In Guadalajara And Tlaquepaque Any One Out Their Can Hook Me Up With Sum Info So I Can Have A Great Time With The Honeys Over Their Any Info Would Be Apreciated Ill Be Over Theri For A Week On The 21 Of July.
[blue]Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...
[red][u]Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports![/u][/red]
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i]
Jackson[/blue]
Army Vita,
Wonderful that you are going to visit my favorite city! I often stay in TLQ at Quinto Don Jose. The taxi to High Class is only about $50 p, and takes 15-20 minutes. It is easy to catch a taxi on the square, only two blocks from the hotel, and equally easy to catch a taxi near High Class.
Please refer to directions to Hign Class previously on this thread. There are options to High Class, all west or north of the Mission Carlton Hotel. Whenever I have two hours to spare, I just hop in a yellow cab, and head to HC!
PM me if you need more information. Have fun!
WW
I will be in Guadalajara next week, July 11 to July 20, 2005. I had lost the wed address for this forum and one of the members I met in BA and Brazil sent me an email informing me he will be in San Francisco in August.
I have not visited this forum for more than 2 years. Also, I have not had the chance to play around as I did when I visited Jackson in Argentina and then spent 6 weeks in Rio de Janeiro. I had the best time of my life spending time with Jackson. I learned a lot. I have been visiting Latin America for almost 20 years now and I have always managed to have fun but until I met Jackson my adventures were never organized nor planned. But somehow I experienced more action than I could have ever planned. My career took a whole different direction before I met Jackson and his forum. As a very few of you, I am a physician and my trips to Latin America, prior to meeting Jackson, were primarily to teach and learn medical procedures as part of an academic institution. For this I was paid and woman would literally in a sort of stream wanted to have fun with the gringo doctor who spoke Spanish and Portuguese. I no longer work in academia and since my last trip when I met Jackson in Buenos Aires all my trips have been under the umbrella of a large for profit medical institution and the freedom and sense of adventure that went along with academia does not exist corporate medical practice. The female medical staff still wants to have fun with gringo doctors but the consequences can be disastrous. There has to be a sense of strict business in all aspects of my trips to Latin America. Otherwise scandal can be used by the competition against us. How I miss those days in academia. The money was not great but life was fun. The money is still not great but more and more academic institutions are cutting down on the type of work I do. Sorry this is too long.
I will be in Guadalajara this Monday for 10 days. I will arrive the 11 of July and stay at a hotel I loved when I did my residency in Guadalajara. Hotel San Francisco. This trip is purely for fun. I want to visit to visit old friends. I know Guadalajara well but not the night life. When I worked there is was hard not to have something going on.
I don’t have a lot of money to spend since I have to use my own money. My wife has a way of knowing how much I spend. I would like to take a nice girl and spend a whole night with her and maybe the day after touring around. Can anyone make any suggestions to me? I don’t like going to places and using the same premises where the girls are working. I don’t like lap dances. I like the privacy and intensity of a private bed.
Sorry guys for the long post, I am just so excited I came across Jackson’s website. I am going to have to sand bag some money and get to BA again soon, hopefully. But for the moment any advice on Guadalajara will be appreciated. If any of you have any medical questions about our hobby let me know and I will do my best to answer your questions. I must say, however, to cover myself legally that my replies will be considered not medical advice but information on popular medical practices in nutrition, medication and the like.
Will anybody be in Guadalajara next week? Jackson, if you make it to San Francisco, consider staying in my house for a couple of days. I would appreciate it if anyone who knows my name not mention it in this forum. Feel free to PM me.
Thanks,
Ford Car
I will be in Guadalajara and Tlaquepaque this Thursday for 1 week.
Any last minute pointers will be apreciated.
I'm looking for young big on top chicks.
Talk to you guys later, and I'll try to get sum pics ok.
Armyvato out here.
There were two candiates there at High Class when I was there in late May. One named Alma or something like that. About 18-19, slim, about 5'1" with natural D cups! Outstanding! Another with dyed blond hair that might have been 21 or so. Name was Chrissie or Sissie or something like that. She had had a baby about 10 weeks previously, and was still lactating. That was a first for me. Anyway, she was about the same size, and about an 8 face-wise.
Have fun!
While in Guad, try Jovi on Avenida Laz. Card. It is just east of Lopez Mateos, on the south side of the street. Great looking Chicas for 800 pesos.
Does High Class or any of the other MPs have a website to view their workers?
Besides the MPs what is the hot spot for strip clubs.
JC
To follow up on Monger All's post, I wanted to add a little more information:
When he mentions ''a quick 15 minutes of mongering'', it is indeed 15 minutes: the girl I was with yesterday had a watch and consulted it frequently. Also, the 150 pesos you pay is for the most basic of services. If you want the girl to take her top off, it's another $100. The standard position is mish; if you want any other, it's another 50 Pesos. Monger All mentioned it was TJ-style service and perhaps for those who've been Tijuana what I'm saying comes as no surprise. I'm still a novice, so to me it was a bit of a surprise.
[QUOTE=Monger All]Just got back from a quick two-day trip to GDL. Went wandering around looking at the shops and the beautiful chicas y mujeres de GDL, when I stubled upon a nice little place to spend a quick 15 minutes of mongering. It is on Ave 5 de Mayo just off of Calle Gigante. No sign, simply a dark orange painted facade with two very good looking girls standing outside. I said hello, went into a room off a courtyard and met 8 girls. Not one over 25 and all a sevens or better. I chose a nice curvy girl (not fat) named Nancy a 7.5 in my book. I paid the abuela 150 pesos for a room, girl, and condom. We stepped inside and went at it TJ style, with the clothes still pretty much on. After a few minutes I was spent and with another 50 peso tip, I was out the door. Went back later that evening, chose a different girl and after another 200 pesos I was on my way.
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Monger All and Harmless,
Rather than being disappointed by the policy at this and other similar joints, I find it slightly charming. You pay for what you get! It is a little confusing for non-Spanish speakers like me, but that is part of the charm of old Mexico.
I had a very nice experience at Jovi last week with Vanessa, an attractive morena. Very nice body and a cute face. We really clicked. I'd say it was a GFE, except that she performed much, much better than my girlfriend. Damage was 900 pesos, they say for 45 minutes to an hour, although we ran a bit over.
A couple of comments, she had a scar on her stomach, from surgery after having gotten the crap beaten out of her during an express kidnapping in Mexico City. Just one more reason for me to stay away from the D.F. Also, she said she enjoyed our session more so than most she's had with gringos because we could communicate and because I didn't treat her as a sperm receptacle. So, anyway, if you're not freaked out by a thin scar (and I would rate her a 9+ if not for that), and if you speak Spanish, I highly recommend her.
I went to High Class a couple times last week and took Dara. She is a nice younger gal about 22 yrs old, nice fit body...nice perky tits, handful sized. Took her for 1/2 hour for 500 pesos. Only speaks spanish, but that did not matter too much. Does an okay covered BJ, did multiple positions with no complaint or watching the clock. She takes a hard pounding without any complaint either. Did DATY and I could tell that she liked it. Finished in missionary. Now here is the good part...after I came she motioned down to her pussy and said something in spanish...she wanted to come too. So I ate her out for another 5-10 minutes and made her come. I could easily tell because her body quivered and pulled me away. Great experience! I can't wait to go back.
I'm going to the tlaquepaque area near El parian to visit some family.
How far is the action from there? I'm not from over there and I'm not going to ask family members where these places are.
Can I get names and maybe directions to this jewels?
Thanks
Army Vato
If you are referring to High Class, it is about 10 minutes by cab.
Address:
Lazaro Cardenas 2913
They close at 8:30PM. I don't think they open on Sunday.
Happy to hear that your liked Dara. Learn a little Spanish and you will really appreciate her. She is getting a boob job next month - I advised her not to go too crazy. We will see. There is a new girl there named Frieda, try her out if you get the chance. I partook, on her first day there. Wonderful! Young, pretty, sweet, and willing. All we could ask for. I promise satisfaction
I'll be back in Gdl, in el centro, this October. It has been two or three years since my last visit. I have sweet memories of HC and of Jet Set and expect to visit both, if only for nostalgic reasons. Anyone out there willing to post an updated resume of Gdl options and current prices? Anything recommended in the quiniento to mil peso price range in the Centro? Que les vaya bien, chamacos.
Marty 2
I'm back in GDL this week and went to go try Frieda, but she must not have been working. I tried Christina this time. Nice 22 year old chica with a great smile and nice body. Very nice nipples on her as they protruded out nicely. She was nothing short of spectacular! Better than Dara because she gave me the GFE experience. Dara will not kiss, but Christina had no problem with DFK. She knows how to enjoy herself and make you feel special. I've got a new favorite! I just wish that I could speak more spanish...I'll be going back for her again. Not sure if I'll give Frieda a shot now unless Christina is not there. Can't seem to beat the price/performance/looks ratio at High Class.
[QUOTE=Marty 2]Happy to hear that your liked Dara. Learn a little Spanish and you will really appreciate her. She is getting a boob job next month - I advised her not to go too crazy. We will see. There is a new girl there named Frieda, try her out if you get the chance. I partook, on her first day there. Wonderful! Young, pretty, sweet, and willing. All we could ask for. I promise satisfaction[/QUOTE]
Can anyone comment about bringing a girl into the Presidente or calling an escort to come to your room. Seems like security is always standing around waiting to pounce on someone. I have never noticed any mongers bringing anyone in either.
On another note, do the girls at High Class freelance after working hours? There does not seem to be a place like High Class open later in the evening. I'm not experience yet at the strip clubs that offer extras. I have not been interested due to poor reports and price.
SeattleGman,
I did it, but it was about 3 years ago, and she didn't particularly look like a hooker. The lobby was busy enough that I don't even think anybody noticed. If anybody gives you any shit I'd tell them I was going to the restaurant or bar, get a drink and then head to my room.
Can anyone comment on prices at Jet Set? I was looking in the yellow pages and noticed their advertisement indicating they are open until 10PM. I went there once years ago and I think I was over charged.
BTW- thank to all who provided me info on this great city!
last time i was there was several years ago, and it was cheaper than other places i'd been. maybe 500 pesos for an hour, versus 800 at the time at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. and there was a reason it wasn't as expensive. the women weren't that attractive.
Following is a link to an active GDL forum on the hobby that will challenge your Spanish. The link wont fit here, there is no space after the question mark. [url]http://boards4.melodysoft.com/app?ID=SexxyProvincia[/url]
interesting juan. they seem to have about the same opinion of women at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] as me. people seem to be having some good experiences at eduards. anybody been there? it's at golfo de cortes 2876-b, tel 3615-0245 cerca de la minerva, and i think maybe i'll check it out next time i'm there.
The last time I was at Jet Set the price ws 800 pesos and the selection was limited but very nice. I hope my choice was legal.
I Hope to visit the place on Golfo de Cortez this week. Will post later on this.
I am pleased to see so many favorable posts about Guadalajara. There was a time when some called it as not "monger friendly" but nothing could be further from the truth.
My wingman and I walked the backstreets and hung out at Plaza de Mariachi for a few nights, hit some bars and got a few very nice girls there. I even got to sing Sinatra at one of the bars.
[b]HOTELS[/B]
The problem most hotels have with girls has nothing to do with you wanting to take them to the room and fuck them.
The problem is that sometimes a girl will run off with your wallet or give you some bad dope. They hate that so they are mindful of who is there as a non-paying guest. That's all. When you register, register Mrs. Monger at the same time and that's who you bring to the hroom. Just don't show the receipts to the wifey.
[b]The Women[/b]
It's so tough to compare the women of GDL to any other woman. They are most certainly all deightful creatures. I left my heart in Guadalajara.
[b]Prices and Service[/b]
Like anyplace, YMMV. But chances are good that you'll hook up with a fabulous GFE and they are worth every minute to be sure. American women could lean soooooo much. The clubs are a tight network and pricing is somewhat standard but service can vary greatly. Some nices places there too.
My last trip didn't get posted but just read the last one. More of the same and then some.
For now I am retired in Tijuana with a Myan girl who makes every minute count. Maybe someday I'll make it back to Guadalajara.
Country John
Hey everyone just want to let you all know I'll be in San Pedro Tlaquepaque next week. I'm driving up their and probably staying their for a week. Can you all tell me where the cool places are not to expensive? I'll be staying near el parian and not to far from Lazaro Cardenas.
Any info will be apreciated,
Thanks.
Hey there Army Vato!
I am here in Mexico right now, though I am about 2 hours south of you if you travel from the bus station (only 1 1/2 or less if you go by car via the autopista towards Colima). You better get ready for the time of your life! :)
I have been to High Class and I want to go to that Orange painted area that is mentioned elsewhere in the reports here. I have had great luck at High Class, plus I love the nice HOT showers there. The massage tables for the "accion" are not too great, but I have brought original foam army sleep rolls (that semi thick green material) to put on the massage tables. They fit perfectly and add that certain "spring" to enjoy the "sproing" with the ladies much better. Plus, they use fitted sheets on those massage tables so it works out great.
However, since I bus myself in (just under $9 USD for a 1st class, A/C bus ride into Guad where I get off on Lazaro Cardenas and take a 4 peso bus to High Class) I am carrying a lot when I go... I have carried a pillow, a sleep roll, and an umbrella along with a mini Cd player and music before! (that was great, for a whole hour with use of the hot tub and a sweet, fine chica who went by the name "Jennifer" who used to work there but has been gone a long time now). Anyway, it is great... they do appreciate American men there and more so if you can speak some Spanish. Jennifer even DFK'd during the whole hour on every occasion I was with her, but many women in the service do not.
Anyway... while you are out here let me know. I should have some free time during the week plus I want to recommend to everyone who is coming this way during the month of October to take in the sights of the "Feria de Octubre" which has events all month long each day. And it only costs $15 pesos (roughly $1.5USD) to get in from what I was told by a chica friend of mine. You have to take the tren ligero (light rail) to the northernmost stop and you go into the Auditorio Benito Juarez. She told me yesterday that events start at 10AM and continue to about 3AM in the morning, though you don't have to stay for everything. I will be going this weekend so anyone who wants to know more just PM me or post on here and I can post a reply.
But remember, since it is the time of the feria there will be more women working and more men seeking their cervix... I mean services ;) This gets worse in terms of men crowding some of the more popular places as December gets here. That has been my experience in the past, but I don't mind waiting especially when a particular woman has proved to be wonderful in the past.
I am not 100% familiar with all the places in Guad... I tend to stick around Giesha and High Class because they were easier for me to get to from the bus into Guad and then to get back to my town by evening. But there are lots of people with better knowledge here - just post and ask.
Stay safe and enjoy the women of Guadalajara and all of Mexico!
Just back from Gdl but with limited opportunity to hobby. Jet Set on a Wednesday afternoon had only two girls, 7s and wanted mil then 900 pesos but I left to check Eduards. It is on Golfo de Cortes. a block from the Minerva on the NE side and behind a hot dog place. Reach through the gate and ring the timbre. Six or more pretty young girls, 7s and 8s. I chose Cindi, 24, an 8+ on sexxyprovencia website recommendation. Really hot looking (Thalia Sodi is a 10) with big, great looking sen~os, well enhanced and near-natural. Weak massage but who cares. The real service was great (almost/not quite GFE) with DFK (kinda hollow) good oral and wonderful de perrito at 900 pesos for the hour. She was truly charming but says she speaks no ingles, said I was "otro victima del internet". New and very clean facilities with hot water showers.
On Gigantes E of 5 de Mayo is a house with 4s & 5s for 130 pesos. Same on 5 de Mayo just S of Gigantes. The Hotel Paris had 5s and 6s; I took the 6 (Pati?) for 200 pesos twice for reasons of proximity, good value but no extras at that price. Just West are 4s & 5s at Hotel Hidalgo but I made no inquiry. Just North of the Paris is Lipsticks, recommended on the sewebsite but I couldn't get there.
As previously reported, October is a great time to visit. Free shows downtown behind the Degollado and at the kiosko next to the cathedral. Good hunting.
Well I got to GDL and went directly to the Casa Grande Hotel across the street (big mistake). I thought it was really expensive and plus they gave me a room that took about 10 minute to walk to on the 4th floor.The bar was nice if you just want to watch the news on a big screen t.v and have a nice cold one, only thing is their is no girl action I didn't even see flight stuwordises. The room only had a shower. Don't think anyone would had said anything if I would had brought a girl to the room being that the front desk is far enough and the bus boys mind there business. I would'nt be domb enough to bring a girl dressed promiscuously anyway.
Anyway the bus costs 10 mexican pesos to the centro (I thought Ild save about 150 pesos cause ithe bus took about 45 minutes).but from there you need to a 15 to twenty minute taxi to the Jet Set. The taxi cost about 30 to 50 pesos.
I went in and the Madom asked if I was there before I told her the truth no but that a few friends recomened that place to me (thank you board friend). Any way I was brought to a room with a message table and a sofa I was told to relax the lady brought me a pepsi and in a few minute the girls all came in one by one intoducing them selve and giving me a lil tap kiss. It seemed pleasently privite. I made my choise and the girl returned and we began by her giving me a nice rub down with lotion we chated about how pretty girls are in GDL and after the 30 minute message she told me the price and asked if I'd like other sevices. I took a risk not discussing the price of the message first. I took it for granted that this board gave a good qoute and my luck had it that the board was rite on the money.
Anyway she went down town I asked if I could feturn the favor and withouy any complants she got on the massage table and started 69ing me. I thought it was goong to be unconfortable but actually everything seemed to flow into position after position. She seemed to enjoy when I went down town and never rush anything. In all I gave her 100 us that included her tip but it was well worth the hour and about 15 minutes. Afterwords we took a nice warm shower togeter aoaking and lathering eachother up even drying. I don't know if that's how she treats everyone but to me it was has if this girl was my old time girl friend caise she was very afectionate with me as I would kiss her all over cause she was hot I'd say a 9 on the body and an 8 on the face. Since I don't consider myself on the brad pit level Ild say she was actually appealing to our repore with one another. I asked her for her number and she gave it to me. So I guess next time I'm in GDL I'll have a beautiful women to take to dinner. Oh PS I thought this girl had some really cute co workers so I guess it's a good place to start your afternoons. Sorry If I messed up the paying curve I honestly didn't have the rite amount in pesos and had to tip her for great service.
Check out the Guadalajara online personal classifieds at [url]http://clasificados.mexplaza.com.mx/[/url] Some of these are esteticas, some independents, some give email or website links. I have no personal experience with these, maybe someone can report back.
The estetica Khazanova has a website. [url]http://www.khazanova.com/[/url] Please report if you visit.
i will be in guad next month for a couple of weeks and will be looking for some honeys. i've been to isis esteticaa couple of times and the 400 peso rate was very good. the 1,000 peso rate is a little too high for my taste; places such as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] etc. does anybody have any info on other reasonably priced esteticas? thanks in advance! thanks juan for your previous posts, ive gotten a few numbers and will report on my findings. photos if i get any takers.
eduardo's might meet your criteria. there is another estetica that is on the main road to el centro. is that hidaldo? it is the road off the glorieta that has fiesta americana and the benz dealership. it is right around centro magno. i don't remember the name of it, but it is on the left hand side. there is a sign, so you can't miss it. of course, you must know about high class, jovi, etc.
viper
[quote=john02]i will be in guad next month for a couple of weeks and will be looking for some honeys. i've been to isis esteticaa couple of times and the 400 peso rate was very good. the 1,000 peso rate is a little too high for my taste; places such as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] etc. does anybody have any info on other reasonably priced esteticas? thanks in advance! thanks juan for your previous posts, ive gotten a few numbers and will report on my findings. photos if i get any takers.[/quote]
Thanks Viper, I've been to high class. Where is Eduardo's? Sounds interesting. I'll have a car so I can pretty much go anywhere. I will definitely go back to Isis; both locations. There were some nice accomodating senoritas.
Eduardo's is off the street that the Minerva's is at. I think that glorieta with the Fiesta Americana. Take the same street that the Taco Minerva is at, and Eduardo's is after one block on the right side. You will see some steel iron gates.
Viper
[QUOTE=John02]Thanks Viper, I've been to high class. Where is Eduardo's? Sounds interesting. I'll have a car so I can pretty much go anywhere. I will definitely go back to Isis; both locations. There were some nice accomodating senoritas.[/QUOTE]
i went there twice few days ago. once at 3:00pm and another day at 5:00pm. may be my luck but the seletion was lousy. three girls to choose form, 6, 5 and a 4! left the place both times.
i did have a hard time parking close by. the hot dog stand next to it stays busy.
imho stick to high class or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]
went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] on a saturday afternoon. the address posted before is accurate, but have to tell you that it is a now (december) a one way street due to construction. you need to be heading west and turn right into the driveway immediatley after the round about in the road.
the best selection among jovi, highclass and eduardo's.
fisrt time was there there were atleast a dozen girls and it was hard keeping track of their names. i picked a hottie named carmen. few minutes later the guy with beard cmesback and says that is busy. that irritaed me a bit but i offered to come back. he was cool and spoke good english.
came back two hours later (frustarted with my inability to locate jet set) and was presented with the line up again. picked monica, a 23 year old that spoke very good english. very mechanical massage. oral and full service. she made it very clear that it was one pop only. left the room after half an hour with a kind comment "you are welcome to use the hot tub and shower if you want. you can stay the full hour in the room" thank you very much.
she had a great body but mediocre service. what is new huh?
thanks for the info. i checked out monsieur, edu's, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], high class, jovi and nefertiti. edu had meium quality and a little bit high price. 5 to 6 on the body and about 900 pesos. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]; i only saw one and she looked hot but i didn't like the bolt-ons. you had to pay first for the massage before seeing the selection and there was no refund if you didn't like what you saw. it was like 450 for massage and 500 more as a tip for the girl. high class is just on the other side of the glorieta and it was 500 complete. saw dara, 24 yr old from veracruz with a nice bod. about a 6 on the body and a 7 in attitude. all natural. daty, cbj and various positions. no rush and an excellent time overall. nefertiti was 390 and the level was 4 to 6 but at that price you can't go wrong great attitude on the girl so i let her keep the 10 p change. they are just across the street from the mission hotel near ninos heroes. will be closing down soon and moving up the block. checked that place out to and the price there was 450p with a low quality selection. there are advertisements in the occidente newspaper in the small classifieds section. several places have ads. good luck and keep the info coming. i saw a lot in mex-plaza but did not call any.
has anyone had any luck?
saludos
Based on previous reviews I decided to make my first visit in Mexico to High Class. Arrived about noon on Wednesday and there were about six girls there. The only one mentioned in past reports was Dara, and she was also the most attractive. The others were mostly pretty chunky. I had lots of time so I booked Dara for an hour at 850 pesos, but declined the sauna option. She certainly is a very attractive young woman (told me she is 23 and will be 24 in May). Each did massage and oral on the other and she either liked it a lot or is a good actress - kept saying Si, Si and Rico! I've had better techniques, but not too often, and she was certainly a pleasure to be with. Didn't quite make the hour - more like 45 minutes. I had no trouble finding a parking spot a block away. If you visit Jovi at 3057 Lazaro Cardenas, there is parking for 7 or 8 cars in front or in the courtyard; I'll try there next time to see how they compare. Overall it was a better than average experience, but not outstanding. By the way, an earlier post said Dara was going to have a boob job. She hasn't, and for my money she's pretty well perfect as she is.
Mob,
I saw some good info on the MEX plaza website. Phone numbers and prices. If you try one, report back and give some info. I will definitely try it next time I'm in town. Good to hear you had a good time with Dara. Happy Hunting!
[QUOTE=Moby Dav]Based on previous reviews I decided to make my first visit in Mexico to High Class. Arrived about noon on Wednesday and there were about six girls there. The only one mentioned in past reports was Dara, and she was also the most attractive. The others were mostly pretty chunky. I had lots of time so I booked Dara for an hour at 850 pesos, but declined the sauna option. She certainly is a very attractive young woman (told me she is 23 and will be 24 in May). Each did massage and oral on the other and she either liked it a lot or is a good actress - kept saying Si, Si and Rico! I've had better techniques, but not too often, and she was certainly a pleasure to be with. Didn't quite make the hour - more like 45 minutes. I had no trouble finding a parking spot a block away. If you visit Jovi at 3057 Lazaro Cardenas, there is parking for 7 or 8 cars in front or in the courtyard; I'll try there next time to see how they compare. Overall it was a better than average experience, but not outstanding. By the way, an earlier post said Dara was going to have a boob job. She hasn't, and for my money she's pretty well perfect as she is.[/QUOTE]
You will find the selection much better after 2 PM. The girls that were there early leave at 6, the girls that start at 2 leave at 9. Have fun. And don't pay over 500 pesos! Thirty minutes can easily turn into 45 and nobody cares. If you wish to tip, spend the extra $$ that way. Pancho makes enough money.
So I went back to High Class on a Sunday. On the telephone they told me there were 5 girls working, but when I got there I saw only two. The one who greeted me said she'd like to be the one to give me service, and I agreed since she was quite pretty and seemed outgoing and cheerful. Turned out to be a good session.
Her name is Karla and she says she is 28 and from Guadalaljara. Taking advice from Marty 2 I booked for half an hour, and that's pretty well what I got, although I didn't feel rushed and I dare say I could have kept going a while if I had felt like it.
I asked her if we could have my head at the end of the table from which I could watch her in the big mirror over the tub. Started with a genuine massage on my back, including arms, legs, hands and feet. Then a roll over for the front which covered everything except the privates. She massaged my chest from a position behind my head, which presented me with a set of beautiful twin 38s or so to nibble on while she worked. After about 10 minutes Karla announced the beginning of the "relaciones" and motioned me to get off the table. She took the mattress and laid it on the floor, which seemed like a sensible precaution, and down we went. Started with a cbj and very soon she climbed up and presented her pussy (not shaved) to my lips and we had a few minutes like that. Then a bit of missionary, then a bit of perrito, and then I think she remembered that I said I like to look in the mirror, and realizing that we couldn't do that from floor level, she suggested we get up and while she sat on the end of the table I was able to get in and finish off. Pretty good but you couldn't do it comfortably if you aren't at least 5'10" I would say.
I'd certainly recommend Karla. Not what I'd call full figured, but not slim either. Nice face, nice body, and a nice personality.
Thought I'd died and gone to heaven! Jet Set is more expensive than High Class ($1000 pesos, and no half-hour rate). But the exterior and interior are more high class than HC. The place is very shiny, and the massage table was wider and more comfortable than the ones I saw at HC.
Five chicas work in the morning, and nine in the aftenoon. I got there at 1:00 pm and there were only three to choose from, but it wan't an easy choice because they were all muy bonita! I picked Galilea partly bacause she came and planted a big kiss on me as soon as she introduced herself. Also she has gorgeous big naturals (but so did the others).
She asked me if I wanted oil or cream for the massage; I said cream and lay face down on the table for a very good massage - not too light, not too heavy, arms, legs, back, buttocks, and with a bit of teasing around the inner thighs. Then I rolled over and she did the same on the front, except thaht every now and then she would give my quickly hardening member a few strokes. Eventually she leaned over and began to nibble my balls and the underside of the shaft, stopping before the head. When the time came she popped the cover on with her mouth and began some serious mouth work. After I asked her, she climbed on the table over me and we 69ed for a few minutes, then it was in deep for CG. When we were both ready she tightened up and boom!
Think I'll go back and try another there to see if this is consistent. If you're looking for a budget fix, a High Class half hour is pretty good, but this was better looks-wise and action-wise than my experiences at HC, so it you're going for an hour anyway I think Jet Set may be worth the extra 150 pesos.
Had another go at Jet Set last week. I arrived at noon and was introduced to 4 girls - all quite acceptable - and I chose Monica who says she is 22 (I think she may be mid or late 20s) with a perfect slim curvy bod and dark curly hair. I got a room with a wall to wall mirror so I was able to watch her every move, and they were very nice! She gave me a good firm massage with a few light teasing strokes every now and then, then a fairly short cbj followed by quite a prolonged pounding CG style. All in all a pretty good experience.
I usually go to High Class, last visit was a few months ago. I forget her name but she has shoulder lenght hair and has a name tattoo over her pelvic area, and one of those designs tats on the small of her back. Probably sounds like a few girls there but if anyone has a name it would be appreciated.
Besides, MP's, Does anyone know of a night club that has a target rich environment of Women.
thanks,
Sounds like Dara to me. Her ass is now 3 axehandles wide and her attitude has gone bad. Try another Chica. As for cantinas, try Gina's, on Lopez Mateos, just north of Lazara Cardenas. Take a nap and go late, most of the girl's will be boracha and eager to please.
What are the best strip clubs in GDL. By best I mean the best looking women. Price is secondary.
TIA,
Dogus
Dogus, it's been a while since I've been to strip clubs, this may be a little dated. Men's Club is considered to have the best looking women. Not a good place for sex though -- either unavailable, or if you negotiate a deal with the woman it's likely to cost you an arm and a leg. Of places I've visited, Kaos would be #2. Sometimes Kaos has some good shows. High pressure place though. I'd put the place right next to Howard Johnsons Hotel (don't remember the name) at #3, and Ramses Men's Club at #4. I liked Lipstick downtown, but it's been 5 or 6 years since I've been there. I've heard Lipstick is getting run down, although that's from a couple of taxistas who probably wanted to take us someplace where they would get a commission.
Sex will run you around $200 at these clubs. At some of the hole-in-the-wall clubs, price is much cheaper. Oftentimes you can get phone numbers and arrange something at a discount for the next day.
What does TIA mean?
TIA=Thanks In Advance
Thanks for the info. I will try out some of your suggestions. I heard if a place called Golden or something and Candy's. If you have info on these places I would appreciate it.
Dogus
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Dogus, it's been a while since I've been to strip clubs, this may be a little dated. Men's Club is considered to have the best looking women. Not a good place for sex though -- either unavailable, or if you negotiate a deal with the woman it's likely to cost you an arm and a leg. Of places I've visited, Kaos would be #2. Sometimes Kaos has some good shows. High pressure place though. I'd put the place right next to Howard Johnsons Hotel (don't remember the name) at #3, and Ramses Men's Club at #4. I liked Lipstick downtown, but it's been 5 or 6 years since I've been there. I've heard Lipstick is getting run down, although that's from a couple of taxistas who probably wanted to take us someplace where they would get a commission.
Sex will run you around $200 at these clubs. At some of the hole-in-the-wall clubs, price is much cheaper. Oftentimes you can get phone numbers and arrange something at a discount for the next day.
What does TIA mean?[/QUOTE]
had the good fortune to spend a couple days working in guad. adventurer that i am i decided to forego the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] mp in favor of trying someplace nearby that i had heard of in previous posts here, namely high class. the place did not look like much from the outside, though the blue and yellow balloons over the entryway added a colorful touch. went in and was escorted to a small room where the chica parade come thru. about 10 chicas were working on a weds night around 7pm. about half seemed eager, the rest were instantly eliminated from competition. ages range from early 20's to mid 30's. looks wise all at least a 6. the couple real hotties didnt seem to have that great of an attitude which i didnt mind because i had my eye on one of the older chicas who gave me a big hug with a sweet smile and said her name was alicia. having made my choice she led me upstairs to the room. not as luxurious as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] but quite nice. going rate for 30 minute massage and extras was mn$800 which was $200 less than i had paid at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] a year ago. she brought some extra towels for the shower and some paper slippers so i didnt bust my ass slipping on the tile floor. she offered to bring me a soda or water and told me to get comfortable and she would be right back. took a quickie shower and as i was getting out she was back with the liquid refreshment. alicia de gdl is 30 years old, blond hair, nice natural 34 b's with a shaved panocha. oh yeah and she smelled great. we took the mat off the massage table and put it on the floor, she told me to relax and stared her magic. gave an awesome massage gently teasing the boys when she did my thighs. after about 15 min told me to flip and started rubbing her body on top of mine. when she worked her way down i asked if i could get a bbbj..she thought for a second then said "ok since i know you are clean" (see- that shower paid dividends!). this chica can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch and likes what she does. had to stop her after about 10 min or else it was gonna be all over. asked if she liked daty and she got that big smile and said si! suffice to say yes she did! when she was done she looked at me and said ok...now you! she resumed the bbbj , then applied the cover and did cg, rcg and finished up with mish. i gave her a massage when we were done then followed it up with a nice shower together during which she paid special attention to mr happy. took our time getting dressed as we talked a bit. total time in the room was about an hour with no knocks or rush. gave her a nice propina for which she seemed genuinely appreciative. overall a real gfe. too bad i was leaving the next morning. high class is located on av lazaro cardenas 2913 about 1/4 mile past [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] on the opposite side of the street. theres a ton of road destruction going on so best bet is to cross over at the light down the street or if youre brave, cross where the glorieta is. theres a stop sign for traffic on lazaro cardenas but nobody pays attention to it.
High Class MP
Gatta love the balloons!
[QUOTE=CA Traveler II]I usually go to High Class.
Hello traveler, Im from GUadalajara myself. I would Highly Recommend going to Edu´s. They have very good quality women this days and you will have a lot of trouble picking one! Pricing is within acceptable range due to the quality and the owner is very attent and friendly. Enjoy!
SErinar
I have travelled throughout most of the major mongering venues (Bangkok, Pattaya, Costa Rica, Amsterdam (16 times), German FKK Clubs, Prague (K-5), Budapest, Madrid, Barcelona, multiple border runs to Nogales (yuk) and have plans to go to Guadalajara for a quick look see over the July 4th weekend. My main reason for traveling is the curiousity factor of other cultures but as you can see, I do like to indulge.
I plan on arriving on a saturday and leaving tuesday. I enjoy hanging in the Central parts of town, walking around the squares and historical sights.
At night, thats another story. Any suggestions for a nice 4-5 star hotel close to the action? Any suggestions for Private clubs ?(not into touristy strip clubs)
Any other info would be appreciated.
I'm going to be in Guadalajra next week staying at the Holiday Inn Select on Ninos Heroes Ave. Can anyone tell me where this hotel is located in relation to High Class or Eduards? I not really familiar with the area.
Best Wishes,
MW Travler
Carnal1, The action is spread out all over Guadalajara, and to my knowledge there are no 4 or 5 star hotels located in el centro. All of the following except Tapatio are reasonably well located with regard to clubs and massage.
Quinta Real is best hotel in town and one of the nicest places I've stayed anywhere. Hilton might be the second best. At the next level (four star) I'd put Camino Real, Intercontinental/Presidente, and Crowne Plaza. There are probably others as well that I don't have any experience with. I've been dissatisfied with A/C in certain rooms in the Intercontinental/Presidente and Crowne Plaza. Otherwise, I don't have any complaints about any of the hotels listed above. I can't comment much about guest friendliness, except to say lobbies of all of the above except Quinta Real are busy enough that you shouldn't have a problem, provided she's not dressed like a ****.
I'd pick Quinta Real for 5 star. For 4 star, I might pick from the list above based on price. I stayed recently at Camino Real for about $85 which I thought was a bargain. There's a drive through gate used by cars & delivery vehicles that you can use to sneak women in & avoid the walk of shame, although this won't work for all the rooms. And it's close to Men's Club.
If you've got a car and don't mind 3 star, Hotel Tapatio is ideal. You can drive your date to your doorstep and it's got a great view of the city -- a romantic setting. Not well located though, except it's close to some lower-end strip clubs on the airport road.
Please see my post a couple of months ago in this string for dated information about strip clubs. None are touristy, but the higher end clubs are all high pressure and overpriced. There are low-priced clubs spotted all over the city. For the MP's, also read this thread. I've read very good things about Eduardo's, recommended below by Serinar, on the local board. Haven't been by yet.
I like Guadalajara, but it isn't a great destination for the hookers or for tourism -- hope your expectations aren't too high.
[QUOTE=Carnal1]I plan on arriving on a saturday and leaving tuesday. I enjoy hanging in the Central parts of town, walking around the squares and historical sights.QUOTE]
Hi Carnal1,
When I'm in GDL on business I stay at the hotels Tiney12 has mentioned. He describes them quite accurately. When in GDL for vacation, I stay at the Hotel de Mendoza, V. Carranaz 16. This is smack dab in the middle of the downtown historical district. There are dozens of plazas, museums, cathredrals, etc. within a 10 minute walk. You will be there just the right number of days not to get bored, but have time to see most of it.
Guadalajara is one of the friendliest cities I have every been to. You might want to pick up a travel guide and read up ahead of time. There are a lot of low key, fun things to do. I use the Moon Handbook's Guide to Guadalajara.
The Hotel Mendoza ([url]www.demendoza.com.mx[/url]) was at one time a convent, I believe. It is not fancy, but has adequate, clean rooms, a restaurant on the roof overlooking the plaza, and is about $110/night. No chicas allowed in the rooms. Its centrally located so you can get to a lot of the MPs and other "service providers" :) with a cheap taxi ride.
I've done a lot of street mongering, walk up hotel mongering, and non-tourist strip club mongering down near Ave. Juarez and the San Juan de Dios Market & Plaza de los Mariachis. I enjoy it for the thrill, but it is kind of dirty and dangerous. Not for the faint of heart or non-Spanish speaker.
I would agree Guadlajara is not that great of a monger destination and there are lots of better tourist destinations. But over all it can be a fun, friendly, and relaxing city - and much safer than Mexico City.
Have a great trip,
M.L.
MunchLunch, I was thinking about your post on the can this morning (where I do my best thinking) and you're right. I might be a little burned out on the place because I've spent so much time there. El centro is interesting. Maybe not Oaxaca or Mexico City, but still worth seeing. A two or three hour late afternoon lunch at one of the primo restaurants in Tlaquepaque or maybe El Coyote is a great way to pass some time, especially with a nice date. And if you speak Spanish you should be able to line up one at one of the clubs -- there's no shortage of late 20's exotic dancers with a couple of kids that would enjoy a nice date with a gringo, followed by a roll in the hay if some monetary compensation is involved. I've been to a couple of conventional clubs (no strippers) on Lopez Mateos with shows that I enjoyed, even if they were cheesy. Like you say, it's a nice city.
Thank you for the responses. I have gone back thru a few posts and it seems that Hi Class gets pretty decent reviews along with Eduards. I enjoy hanging in the clubs people watching, conversing with the staff,and the girls. I've been to Costa Rica three times (Blue Marlin, Key Largo, and Zona Blue), any similarities?
I would prefer a club that has some organized/standardized minimum service levels, the ones where girls are not allowed to try and work the customers. I understand that upselling is part of every club but can hold my own under those kind of circumstances.
Freelancers at local night clubs would be a great second or third night. Any suggestions on venues? Keep in mind that want to keep within walking distance of the El Centro.
Pura Vida
the "esteticas masculinas" (in the yellow pages, like high class, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], jovi, eduardo, jet set) are like high priced zona blues with a barber in place of the bar. you can get a shave and a haircut but not a mixed drink. some of the women are more attractive than what you'd find in zona blue. i don't know any clubs that would meet your criteria. there's nothing like blue marlin. as far as something organized, with minimum service levels, women not bugging you, forget it. only thing i can think of is guadalajara del dia, and last time i went, 5 years ago, it sucked. i'm not even sure if it's still open.
be careful if you decide to go hiking from a hotel in the centro after dark. i wouldn't do it. there are lower end options in el centro, also lipstick, but as munch lunch said it's not particularly safe. on the other hand, by mexican standards gdl is safe -- just not the centro.
Tiny 12,
Any idea what the going rates are at the Esteicas like High Class?
carnal, it's 500 pesos in high class, and they have a special promotion right now, two chicas for 700. i think the 500 pesos is just for 30 minutes. that's what i read on the local board, i've never been to high class. one local wrote recently that quality there right now isn't very good.
if you go to high class, i'd recommend you take a walk down lazaro cardenas towards lopez mateos. on the right side of lazaro cardenas very close to the traffic circle you'll find [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], which is historically where i've found the best looking chicas, also the most mechanical. and farther on on the left a couple of blocks before lopez mateos you'll run across jovi. the selection at jovi is usually considerably smaller than [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], and on average women aren't as attractive, although i've run into stunners there. i have usually gotten gfe at jovi, and have run into a couple of real sweethearts, one who i've continued to see after she retired. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and jovi run about 1000 pesos for an hour. the rooms in both are nice.
anyway, it's pretty easy to check out all three places at the same time if you're so inclined, as they're within walking distance.
Two for 700 Pesos? Hmmm, quantity or quality? I got a decent rate ($83 plus tax) at the Hotel Mendoza, sounds like a good combination of what I am looking for. No chicas in the rooms? Not that I want to bring one back but how do they police that, do they ask for ID if you bring a girlfriend back with you? I find it hard to believe that they can enforce that if you dress well, behave yourself and don't bring in a girl that is 15 yrs old wearing a halter top and mini skirt?
I shall try the tour down Lazero Cardenas, sounds like fun. My expereience with clubs has taught me to go during shift changes, when the maximum number of girls are available. Offcourse, the FKK clubs in Germany are open from 10:00 A.M to 5:00 A.M so there has to be two shifts.
Are there any decent nightclubs for freelancers arond the Hotel Mendoza? Any other suggestions for day trips would be appreciated.
Pura Vida
Two possible day trips would be to the town of Tequila and to Lake Chapala. If you don't mind spending ALL day (long trip), Guanajuato would be a good destination. Take a look at your guidebook (Lonely Planet or whatever) and see what's of interest to you.
Thanks for the great reports, guys. Could you give some names of some of the less expensive SCs? When I treat myself to a trip to Veracruz, I spend about 100 US for FS with some real hotties, which I consider expensive compared to what I pay here in Oaxaca. So, I am looking for a place where it is about 100 US or less. But, if such SCs are dangerous, not sure if I would check them out when I go in a few weeks.
Thanks.
Bundok, they're all over town. Hopefully someone else will weigh in here because I'm not too knowledgeable on this. There are three dives on your left when driving in from the airport. They're all located in about the same place, about a mile or two before you get to Hotel Tapatio (the hotel on top of the big hill right before the cutoffs that go to Tlaquepaque and Tonala). One is named Boom Boom, and I think another is Tejano or Texano. Can't remember the third. I went to all three a couple of years ago. Price for room was $30 and women were about $60 additional. I didn't think the clubs were dangerous. There were only a couple of hotties among the three clubs.
Carnal,
High Class went up to 550 pesos, 50 US. The selection is questionable, I have declined service my last 2 trips. If you like them large, this is the place for you, but things change all the time.
Of the 3 table dance clubs between the airport and Guad, the Boom Boom is the best. They have cleaned up their act. The crooked waiters have been replaced by polite, smiling waitresses and the girls are there to please. Get there quick, the rainy season is about to begin - you will get wet if it rains.
Also, Mexican men prefer their women grande, but there are a few slim ones. There is a shift change at 9PM. If you get there at 7 or 8, you can arrange an offsite adventure without a house charge.
Gina's, on Lopez Mateos is my personal favotite tb.
Have fun.
I was GDL last week and called up for an escort. She was a 9 face, 8 Body and a 10+ in Bed. I've attached soem pictures for yiour viewing pleasure. Her name was Paulina and wanted to be called PAU her nick-name. She wasn't willing to let her face be seen in the pictures but really seemed to enjoy posing for me
Best Wishes, MW Travler
Here are some more photos of PAU for your viewing enjoyment.
Rgds. MW Travler
And some more pictures of PAU (Pauilina) she siad she was 23 years old and did she know how to work her body. She wore me out.
Rgds,
MW Travler
Still more pictures of my girl Pau (Paulina) I'm sure there are no complaints if I add a few more of her OUTSTANDING Body!
Sorry I guess the fpictures I uplaoded were rejected for being too large. I'll try again here.
Enjoy MW Travler
Here's another set of Pictures of Paulina (PAU) hopefully these are OK and not to large to upload.
Best Wishes,
MW Travler
Enjoy more pictures of PAU. She drove me crazy and sucked the best I ever had in GDL for an escort service. I'll be calling her again on my next trip. She even siad she would work on the side rather then for the agency and save me some pesos.
:)
These are the last pictures I have of my lovely Pau. I'm sure you will agree her beauty is a solid "10".
Be Safe All,
MW Travler
Pardon me LOVESTHEZONA, but where is BSD, and what is the full name of the place. Sounds like my kinda quite place!
Hello everyone, I´ve just found this forum, I´m living in GDL, hopefully I´ll be your insider, I post under the nick of anonimo in the [url]http://boards4.melodysoft.com/app?ID=SexxyProvincia[/url] forum.
Glad to help, I ve got some phone number of reliable independent escorts in GDL.
Saludos
Anonimox, what are your favorite strip clubs and esteticas masculinas right now?
Marty 2, where on Lopez Mateos is Gina's?
Thanks guys
tiny 12,
my favourite mp right now are [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and eduards and select ( av la paz, one block from centro magno), in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] there is always nice looking girls, i´ve made strong relations with minerva and other girls, so i just only call them and meet after working and arrange some in a motel, so is way cheaper and more confortable no rush at all. from eduards i can recommend you cindy and fanny, cindy is a machine and is cute i also got her cel phone, but fanny is a young beautifull girl the only downside is her service, i very plain, fuck and go, maybe i have to work her a little bit more.
and from select there is this girl called alexa, ufff what a baby, shes like 20 years old, beautifull body, no sign of fat and she just got new breasts and looks very atractive. all those three girls are delicious, young, and good looking.
Thanks Anonimox, I'm going to check a couple of those out the next time I'm in Guadalajara.
Tiny 12: Gina's
Approx 1.5 KM north of Lazero Cardenas on the east side of the street. I was in there the other night - great talent.
Hey Animox. I am coming to Guadlajara in Mid July and would like to find a few clubs where I can have a drink - talk with the girls - maybe watch the girls dance?? The MP is not my scene. Any ideas on where I might find some clubs like this?
Thanks,
Gracias Marty
Hi everyone!
I have been back in the U.S. for about 2 1/2 months now and boy do I miss being in Mexico! I am going to be back sometime in September and I plan on being in Guadalajara this time for the Mexican "El Grito" celebration of Mexico's independence from Spain. That takes place on Sept 15th & 16th and it is quite a party. I have been in two other cities in Mexico for that celebration and it is fun and wild and no one generally gets hurt (which is amazing for the sheer number of people getting drunk and crazy).
I want to know if any mongers will be in the area around that time? I definitely want to check out High Class and Geisha and a few other MP's and also try to find out more about the chicas you can call over to the hotels. I have talked to some of the taxi drivers about that and occasionally they have cards with a woman's name and cel phone number on them and these are service agencies, though a few are individual women working for themselves. The price I saw once was $800 pesos for 1 hour which is good -- saves you from having to take a taxi to and from an MP and you get to shower in your own hotel room afterwards.
I will post again as the date comes up but I am curious about getting chicas own cel numbers and being able to get them to the hotels instead of paying at the MP's. I know it is probably better to meet them first at the MP's and see how good they are, but my experiences in Mexico City have been really great with the agencies and the prices are really cheap there compared to paying $500 at High Class for 1/2 hour... You can pay as little as $300 for a full hour in Mexico City if you use one of the newspapers that advertise "masajes" there, but then you are stuck with who or "what" shows up to your door! (and sometimes a $50 to $100 peso taxi fee, when in fact some of them actually take the metro if your hotel is on or close to a metro line :)
Gracias!
I am making my first visit to GDL arriving next saturday and staying until July 4th. Most likely will be staying at the Hilton but would like to check out the various parts of the City.
I thought long and hard about staying closer to the Historic area but when I check out new cities I always stay in a 5 Star for the first night. This ensures that I don't have culture shock right of the bat due to the Hotel I choose. Nothing worse than being stuck in a mediocre place and starting the trip off with a negative vibe.
Feel free to PM me if you want to meet for a beer and check out the clubs.
Regards
I looked at MEXPLAZA online and could not find any ads. I had looked months ago and there was a great selection. Does anyone know what happened?
Thanks
Carnal, how a about a trip report?
Hey Guys,
I am planning my fourth visit to beautiful GDL and the Lakeside area for mid Sept, and plan to visit some spots in the city. I have gone to HC several times in the past, plus other like businesses in the area. I have also visited the "Orange Door" peviously mentioned, and been fortunate enought to catch a local for a quickie in the Historic district. If I do say so myself, not bad for a non-Spanish speaker!
I will be staying in Tlaquepaque, and am looking forward to the 16 de Sept activities. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I normally take a taxi from TQUE to the HC area. I normally pay about 60-70 pesos. Is that reasonable?
As I am considering retiring to the area, I am trying to check out all seasons. I know this is late in the rainy season, and want to play golf in the area in Sept. I normally play at Chapala CC when I am Lakeside.
Any imput from you experienced mongers would be sincerely appreciated.
guadalajara, mexico trip report 7/06
due to work/time restrictions and high airfare costs over the july 4th weekend i decided to take a much needed break and explore new venues closer to home. my main criteria was direct flights, monger friendly, non- touristy, historic, and latin. flights to costa rica were outrageous and unavailable so i checked aeromexico for direct flights into either mexico city or guadalajara. both cities have intrigued me for years. i had heard that guadalajara was less congested and more authentic so i booked the 1 ½ hour red eye on set my sights on the birthplace of tequila and mariachis.
i have visited many of the mexican costal and border towns like cancun, cabo san lucas, mazatlan, puerto vallarta, tijuana, nogales, and laredo. guadalajara is not renowned for its mongering scene but makes up for it with outstanding architecture, great music, mariachis and fun loving people. july is the rainy season in central mexico but after spending the last few months in 110 degree arizona heat it felt great to exit the plane at miguel hidalgo international airport and feel the cool breeze and embrace the excitement of a new venue.
guadalajara, the capital of the state of jalisco and the second- largest city in mexico, is also one of the most serene and pleasant urban centers in which to live. “the pearl of the west”, as it is known, is a modern city that maintains much of its colonial charm. its rich heritage dates back to the mid 1500’s and can be seen in the beauty of its buildings, such as the grand residences, courtyards, plazas, fountains, and old churches. geographically, gdl is in the center of mexico, about a 3 hour drive to acapulco, sits at 5,000 ft. above sea level and is on the same latitude as the hawaiian islands.
after taking a taxi to the centro historico i checked into the hotel de mendoza, a 4 star converted monastery located next to the renowned teatro delgado (replica of the pantheon in rome) and plaza liberacion. guadalajara is best seen by foot or carriage and this location provided me with easy access to the cities most popular plaza’s, historic buildings, and shopping districts. it was pouring the first night i arrived so i spent time in the lobby bar of my hotel chatting with a group of chica’s that had just arrived from los angeles. i found out that the next day (sunday) was the presidential election and there was a ban on liquor sales the entire weekend. wow!! no drinking for the first day and a half of my mexican sojourn???
the next morning i woke to church bells ringing at the central cathedral. i had a quick breakfast and chatted with the concierge about what was going on in the city. he told me that due to the elections the center of gdl may be a little low key. i decided to take a ½ day tour of the surrounding areas and spent time in chapala and ajajiic. both of these small towns are located about 45 minutes north of gdl and are havens for artists and retiree’s from around the globe. lake chapala is the largest fresh water lake in mexico and during the weekends and tourist seasons are quite busy. it was nice to see the mexican countryside but i was anxious to get back to the city. i spent the evening walking around the various plazas surrounding the main cathedral and noticed a very interesting vibe due to the political situation that was brewing, and still is to this very day!
i spent the next two days walking from plaza to plaza, mercado’s to liquor stores, sipping various different kinds of agave tequila, drinking negro modella, estrella, and enjoying the various cafés, restaurants, hotels, and courtyards. i must have seen over 100 fountains in just the centro!
i did break down and decided to visit a estancia masculina called [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. i had done some research into the mongering scene on the wsg and decided to give this place a try. i had to take a taxi (60 pesos) from the center of town and enjoyed winding thru the various neighborhoods and non-tourist districts of gdl. upon arrival, you are greeted by a guy that asks if you want a massage, then followed by the question “do you want full service” this was in broken english but i understand enough spanish to get me into trouble. i asked how much and he quoted what was equivalent to about $100 usd. as some of you may know, i am not much on grinding down on the price and was quite content with the selection of girls that i saw parading around the entrance. we agreed to 45 minutes and he brought me to a typical massage room, table, mirror, fans, shower, etc.. i do not recall the name of the girl i picked but she had that butterscotch, carmen electra look that i really like. streaked brownish, blond hair, nice petite figure, broken english and good “oral skills” ha ha the session started with a short massage, then she went right into the bj. she wanted to go right into the sexo but i had her change positions on the table so i could enjoy some of the sweet trimmed “taco” between her legs. she arched and squirmed, moaned and twitched until i decided it was time to do some spinning all in all, a pretty decent session. she asked how long i was going to be in town and unfortunately i had to tell her i was leaving the following day. her demeanor changed drastically (as i predicted) so i bid her farewell and headed back out to the streets. it took me a while to flag down a taxi but within 10 minutes i was back in the centro, enjoying tequila, cerveza, and the wonderful local scene downtown.
i spent the next day wandering around tlaquepaque, mercado’s, plaza’s, and ended up sitting outside the teatro delgado drinking some of mexico’s finest tequila, negro modelo, and enjoying the city vibe.
in conclusion, i would rate guadalajara very close to barcelona, without the ocean!
buenos dias!!
i visited only two places in guadalajara the last week of june: a strip club and a brothel, though there the brothels pose as “male beauty salons” or “estéticas masculinas.”
i had planned on going to the sc boom boom based on recommendations here, but on discovering that a trip there by taxi from the city center would cost 100 pesos, i decided to pass. for the return trip after midnight, they probably would have charged me 150 or more, and since i have three sweet, little, young things waiting for me in my little neighborhood casa de citas in oaxaca, where they charge only 300 (us$27), i figured it wasn’t worth it to pay 250 just for the taxi ride. so i went instead to a sc closer to the center, which a cabbie said wasn’t too expensive.
the strip club juniors is in the nearby neighborhood, tlaquepaque. a sort of expensive 60 pesos for the taxi trip there and 80 back to my hotel. and the club wasn’t as economical as suggested to me: it is a small, yet glitzy place, a “men’s club,” for rich businessmen. cover on a thursday night was 100 pesos, which includes a table dance (don’t forget that you get a free table dance), though i believe on weekends the cover might be more, like 160. you need to buy at least 3 beers, at 50 pesos each, or i guess 150 pesos total for any other beverage. chica drinks start at 180 pesos. privados cost 350 pesos for 5 minutes. going to a room with a chica for sexo costs a whopping 850 pesos plus what the girl will charge, which, in my case, would have been 1,000 pesos, so 1,850 pesos, or about us$180 total. crazy.
only about 6 tables were occupied when i arrived, and there were about 15 chicas in the house. as befitting a glitzy “men’s club,” they were all dressed in nice, clean stripper outfits. and like most of the women in guadalajara, the majority were blondes, though i doubt that any was a natural blonde. right after ordering my beers, i made a trip to the bathroom, and on the way, a cute, curly-haired blonde caught my eye, and she gave me a wonderful, shameless, intense stare all the way to the bathroom and all the way back to my table. hmmm. and like in the horrible strip clubs in the zona rosa in mexico city, sure enough, a waiter came to me with a chica in his arm a mere seconds after i returned from the bathroom and before i could even take two sips of my beer. but luckily, luckily, the girl he brought to me was the aforementioned sweetie: cute, cute, little, curly blonde...
little curly blonde se llama jimena. short, slender, super-white skin, very small little natural breasts, and a tight, little white butt to die for, amigos, ay... only 21 years old, and it showed on her cute face, though it was obvious she wasn’t an innocent thing. sitting in my lap, weighing next to nothing, she continued with her absolutely amazing sweet and smiley, yet sexually suggestive and intense stare right into my eyes. i returned the stare for a bit, looked away at the stage or around the room, only to note that her stare continued. after paying so much for the taxi, the cover, and the beers, i thought i’d leave the place without partaking in any action, but little jimena changed my mind.
though not as bad as the rotten scs in mexico city, every 10 minutes a waiter came up to me suggesting privados or sexo in a room. just decline politely each time and they’ll be cool. i bought two tiny fake beers for jimena, but it was worth it: she was totally engaged, staring at me suggestively all the while, making sure i was happy. after finding out the price for privados and for sex in a room, i finally told her, “look. the rooms are too expensive. if i got a privado with you, would you give me a hj without charging me extra?” “of course, mi amor!” she said. and that is how it transpired, señores. a very nice bbhj with a super hot sweetie, including some very nice dfk. in short, if 1,800 pesos for sexo isn’t a problem for you, i would highly, highly recommend little jimena. you won’t be sorry.
as for the brothels, i had planned on going to the three at the intersection of av. lópez mateos and cal. cárdenas: high class, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], and jovi. taxi to that part of town from el centro is at least 50 pesos, however. so, again, the 100 for the taxi ride on top of about 600 for sexo sorta turned me off. but, again, i got lucky. on friday afternoon, i decided to take an alternate route back to my hotel, where i literally stumbled upon another “estética masculina” basically right across the street from my hotel. i recognized the name from this board, nefertiti, though they have since moved around the corner and have changed names: it’s now called estética masculina mediterraneo and it is right across the street from the hotel missíon carlton, at 970 niños héroes, which is basically still in el centro.
at 7 in the evening, about 10 chicas in the house, all with nice looking clothes, all with various degrees of blonde hair which gave them a nice modern look not common in oaxaca or chiapas, and all with very white skin. i was very pleasantly surprised, since they basically looked like any of the super-hot, hip chicas i saw walking the streets of mexico’s second city, whom i had been dying to jump on. but you don’t get to choose the girl. upon entering, a chica grabbed my arm and took me to the adjoining room, where she explained the prices. she mentioned two levels of service, and i chose the second for 460 pesos, or us$42. (not sure what the first level of service was; i couldn’t understand her spanish very well.) in any case, alejandra (or alex) is a short, only slightly pudgy cutie, more like she’s got a bit of baby fat, with longish brown hair streaked with blonde. 21 years old. very nice, largish natural breasts. she started with a sorta lame massage (it’s a male beauty salon after all), but we quickly got down to business. very nice cbj, with lots of eye contact. and sucking my balls with her luscious mouth, again with great eye contact. ay, señores. and when we got to missionary, compadres, i lasted less than a minute, don’t know why... but luckily she suggested another pop for 200 more, and that extra price didn’t bother me at all, since i knew that alex knew how to give great service.
and i returned to mediterraneo saturday afternoon as well. an older (maybe 32) skinny fake blonde took me by the hand, but since i answered in the negative to her question if that was my first time in the joint, she asked if i wanted to chose another girl, and i instinctively said “alejandra,” even though i would have preferred to have tried out another chica, but, oh well.
yet alejandra didn’t disappoint, this time adding dfk to her repertoire, as well as some bb licking of my member, and allowing me to eat out her extremely nice-looking cosita. after 30 minutes of nice fucking, i popped, and she again asked if i wanted another, while stroking my member and looking at me seductively. i said yes, even though i knew i didn’t have enough rest between pops to be able to go to completion. but that didn’t bother this chica at all. no señores. after about 10 minutes of trying, i told her, “amor, no sé si puedo,” whereupon she jumped to kneel in front of me, and started jacking me off, begging me in a dirty spanish to give her my load. i still didn’t think i’d be able to do it, when she started fingering mi ano in addition to her jacking off and dirty talk, y con eso, señores, sí, i was finally able to give her the warm leche she had been begging me for. and afterwards, “see, i told you! sí se puede!” she said with a proud smile.
in summary, i was very impressed with the level of service in guadalajara, though i was only with 2 girls. i’d forget the strip clubs, unless high prices aren’t an issue, and try out the estéticas, which seem to be a very economical and convenient fuck with girls that give off a nice vibe of being hip, hot, modern chicas.
good luck and happy hobbying, camaradas.
notes:
1. the sc juniors opens early, at 4 pm, and closes late, at 5 am. i’m quite sure jimena said they are open sundays as well.
2. mediterraneo and most of the other brothels seem to open at 10 am and close at 9 pm. mediterraneo is also open sundays, but they close early, at 6 pm (?). i imagine this is the case for the other brothels as well.
3. i asked alex at mediterraneo what the time limit was for the 460 pesos, and she looked at me kinda confused. “uh...that’s the cost for one servicio.” so, i guess that means that there is really no time limit, and i can confirm that for the fact that in the hour i was with her, there was no knock at the door. or maybe it’s for an hour?
Hello all
Great reporting Bundok.
I visited Mediterraneo and found it to be exactly as you described.
50'ish lady took me back and explained the service, pretty good english.
200 for massage - 460 for all (second option)
I got to pick - about 12 girls present.
"Jimini" went up with me. Excellent, clean. I would recommend this place to anyone.
Have fun
Kabo
will be in gdl on business next week. will be hitting [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and high class as i always do as my hotel is very close to both. was thinking of trying to get one of the chicas from either to meet at my hotel after work for an all nighter. what would a reasonable offer to her be?
I will be in GDL 22nd through the 24th Monger. Drop me a line if this coincides with your trip.
I did just that, Monger X, with a lady named Estalla from HC last November. Was staying at Mission Carlton, and we agreed upon 1100 Pesos, as I remember. Worth every cent of it, too.
I do love GDL.
[QUOTE=RobbyPump]I will be in GDL 22nd through the 24th Monger. Drop me a line if this coincides with your trip.[/QUOTE]Robby,
Am here thru night of the 24th. Can you PM me on the USA board?
I live overlooking the golf course. Have lived Lakeside/Chapala two plus years and love it.
[QUOTE=World Wise]Hey Guys,
I am planning my fourth visit to beautiful GDL and the Lakeside area for mid Sept, and plan to visit some spots in the city. I have gone to HC several times in the past, plus other like businesses in the area. I have also visited the "Orange Door" peviously mentioned, and been fortunate enought to catch a local for a quickie in the Historic district. If I do say so myself, not bad for a non-Spanish speaker!
I will be staying in Tlaquepaque, and am looking forward to the 16 de Sept activities. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I normally take a taxi from TQUE to the HC area. I normally pay about 60-70 pesos. Is that reasonable?
As I am considering retiring to the area, I am trying to check out all seasons. I know this is late in the rainy season, and want to play golf in the area in Sept. I normally play at Chapala CC when I am Lakeside.
Any imput from you experienced mongers would be sincerely appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=World Wise] I normally take a taxi from TQUE to the HC area. I normally pay about 60-70 pesos. Is that reasonable?[/QUOTE]60-70 pesos sounds quite reasonable to me..I paid 180 from the airport to HC area and 100 from an industrial park near TLQP back to the same area.
I appreciate your imput, Talosian and Monger X. I rented a casa in Ajijic, and am also staying in TLQP for a few nights. I have played the Chapala course many times, and also the small course near San Antonia, between Chapala and Ajijic. Looking forward to it.
Taxis in GDL are often an adventure. I try to find a driver who speaks some English, but that is not always possible.
I am becoming excited about my trip, and visiting HC and other providers.
Hello to all the fellow Mongers out there. This is my very first post but have been laying in the background for a while and picking up tips and the do's and don't's of the lifestyle. I live in Guadalajara for 3 years now and until recently really never visited the esteticas at all. But here is what I have picked up from just being me out here for quite a while. Remember that I am completely fluent in spanish and I think it is a HUGE advantage at times. One thing I think that the forum does not address at all is the club scene. Its really really big here. There are clubs/bars that you can walk into on any given night and find what you are lookin for without breaking a sweat and not breaking the bank. One of the favorites of locals and foreignors alike is Wall Street Bar on Las Americas en Colonia Providencia. Tues. Nights all the drinks are two for one and the chicks are all drunk by 12am. Another club is Bosse where on Sat. Nights bottles are two for one and last Saturday it seemed wo where the tapatias! There are more but those are probably the ones most friendly to non English speakers since getting in the door at the club takes some cajoling even to the the natives! The esteticas I have been to Clinica Monsiuer (Lopez Mateo sur 123 Colonia Arcos)---Cindy (really cute but won't let you pound) and Vanessa (young and will come to the hotel or apt. For the right price and do just about anything and anyone). Went to High class and got served be Jillian (? ). Good service and was not watching the clock, we must have been up there an hour and a half. At Mediterraneo acroos fom the Mission Carlton on Ninos Heroes) en el centro the girls are ok. But the good thing is they are only 460 pesos (46 dollars) and they don't care about time it seems. The first time I went there got scooped up by a chick named Julie (cute great service) and she let me go for another round on the house. The second I went really late (yesterday) and all the girls were ready to go home which is understandable. Who doesn't want to go home at the end of their shift? ! ? So I looked the oldest chick in the place up an down and said what the hell! GREAT decision! Nelly was about 36 years old and her body had a nice shape. She is about 5'3" and treated me like her boyfriend of about 5 years. She took great care of me! Anyway that about it for now. I phave got a lot more to share and will do so later I know these things can get long and don't want to take up too much of everyones time.
hello mongers:
i'm new to guadalajara, and this guide, but getting to know my way around, thanks to this list.
i'll be visiting high class, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], and jovi soon, and hope to report back, with fotos, as i'm allowed to take.
any other places you might recommend are welcome.
[quote=pitron]hello mongers:
i'm new to guadalajara, and this guide, but getting to know my way around, thanks to this list.
i'll be visiting high class, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], and jovi soon, and hope to report back, with fotos, as i'm allowed to take.
any other places you might recommend are welcome.[/quote]cindy at eduards was great last year at 900 pesos and the sexxy provencia board reports that she has gone blonde. que pechonalidad! [url]http://boards4.melodysoft.com/app?id=sexxyprovincia[/url] . the posts for mediterraneo aren't too inspiring but at 460 pesos the price is right. kassandras is reportedly 400 pesos and i may try to check it out and report. it is on bernardo de balbuena a block from avenida america and ave mexico. the provencia board also recommends barba azul. at 2,000 pesos is an outcall diva import, yelly, from venezuela and leaving gdl soon [url]http://www.divas.com.mx/yelly.html[/url] . the provencia board is wild for her and her photos are hot, hot, hot. any recent first-hand info would be greatly appreciated.
hey,
i am going to guadalajara in ten days and i would like to hear more about the clubs. phase6 mentioned he has more information. how about it, p6? do tell more about the club scene in guadalajara.
i will be staying downtown, near teatro degollado. i am planning on checking out the esteticas such as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], high class, jovi and mediterrano as well as the "orange door" near gigante. i believe i will get my needs and desires fulfilled in one or the other of these places. i would love to know more about the clubs so i can hang out and meet non-pros or semi-pros there. i think i am going to check out the plaza de mariachis and tropicalismo, which i understand is nearby. not really into the sw scene but i am open to new thrills and experiences.
do drop me a pm or make a post, por favor. i speak better than passable spanish so i am looking forward to meeting and getting to know some tapatias. i am in my late 40's so i wouldn't mind meeting 30 something tapatias. young would be good, too! (grin)
thanks in advance,
tool shedd
I guess Phase6 isn't available. If anyone else has any club info about downtown Guadalajara or vicinity I would love to have it.
Thanks in advance,
Tool Shedd
lipstick -do a this thread search- is just a few blocks east of the degollado theater. av. hidalgo is the oneway street that runs east between the degollado and hotel de mendoza, follow it in direction of the traffic, downhill and just before independencia is a small triangular block bordered also by calle agua fria. lipstick and the brothel hotel paris each have entrances on both agua fria and independencia. the hotel paris girls lurk on the agua fria side daytimes. i've not been to lipstick except to peek in during the day when it was closed and it was unimpressive but the sexxy provencia board has some encouraging posts. i had a couple of inexpensive encounters at the paris last year that were worth the price. walking down av hidalgo toward incependencia you will pass another hotel on the north side (forgot name) that had some girls (feas) in the entrance courtyard but i didn't stop. please post your experiences as i will be returning to gdl very soon.
A good map of Guadalajara streets can be found at [url]http://tapatios.com/buscador/mapa.html[/url] . It takes a little patience but with experience of use provides good detail.
Thank you for the information, Juan Carter.
Sounds like Lipstick and the Paris are only a block or two from the hotel I will be in. Convenient!
You can be sure I will check this area out and report back. I haven't posted much due to very infrequent travel opportunities but I will give something back to the forum for all the information that I have gleaned here.
Thanks again,
Tool Shedd
First time in Guad. Any entertainment near the Intercontinental? I don't know the area but is it safe to walk around?
Just moved into a new place and had some trouble gettin my internet together but now I am good. Anyway tool shed the clubs downtown ar eok but look out you could walk into a gay club very easily!
Guadalajara sex show returns.
I’ve only seen one newspaper add in the last 4 days, but it’s back again this year.
They probably pissed too many people off with all the publicity last year. (remember this is the city that closes down “Esteticas Hombres” (massage parlours) at 9:00 PM every night.
There’s lots of activity in Guad., in the day at those esteticas, and at night in regular bars, and strip clubs, but the city doesn’t want to appear that way.
This year’s show is called: EROTICPLAY
At the salon Fiesta Bugambilias, at 1567 Av. Avila Camacho
Fri 29th 4 to 12;00
Sat 30th 12:00 to 12:00
Sun 1st 12:00 to 12:00
More info in Spanish, but you’ll understand it, at:
[url]www.eroticplay.com.mx[/url]
Here is a link to the table dance Lipstick in the historic center. [url]http://www.lipstick.com.mx/[/url] I have not been there but the photos are enticing. Do a "this tread search" for an earlier post from a member who reports a bad experience with a take-out from this place: he got drunk, passed out and woke up in his hotel room with money gone from his wallet. I just can't imagine how that could have happened.
since nobody volunteered to help me i decided to strike out on my own. decided to visit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and was surprised it was only about 10 mins from the intercontinental. communication problems at the door were corrected when the old guy called a younger guy to explain the process. he asked what i wanted and i stammered "a massage" not knowing what to really ask for. he said "to completo" and i said "si". off to the massage, sauna, shower room we went and i had to fork over 1400 pesos. seemed high but what the heck. he said the girl would be in shortly and the first thing that crossed my mind was i'd get the ugliest and fattest. i asked if i could pick and he said sure. after a couple minutes came the clicking of high heals. about 7 women started to parade by my door. all were attractive but the two last ones were the youngest and hottest. i chose janet, the last girl in the parade. hot body and bonita. some subtle evidence of a baby but she was better than most $300-400 women i see in the us. tough time communicating but we managed. playful shower followed by a cbj. i asked for bbbj but was denied. off to the races we went. i tried numerous times to dfk but all i got were little pecks. she led to all the positions and i finally popped doing her standing up. gave her a $20 tip and another try at dfk. i love this city. tonight i'm going to try an internet girl or the ones advertised in the paper to come to my hotel. sure hope they don't get stopped.
i would love to hunt in the clubs but my spanish is nonexistent.
damn, smart alec, 1,400 pesos for fs in a mexican brothel? that´s way too much, dude; heck, why else are so many mexicans willing to risk their lives to cross the border into the us. and carnal1 had just posted that he paid 1,000 at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], which again is too much, but still, what´s the point of this board we all end up letting them charge us whatever they want? you could have had 3 sessions with 3 different chicas at that price at mediteraneo, where there were at least 2 really good-looking chicas when i went.
don´t mean to single you out, bro, and, of course, i don´t know all the circumstances of your trip.
as for dfk, i have yet to get it at a mexican brothel (got close once), but in strip clubs, i get it about 50% of the time, including in gdl with an absolutley stunning little chica (as describing in my tr). never gotten a bbbj at a brothel either but at scs, lots.
Hey everyone,
I just recently moved to lakeside from GDL. I didn't really do any mongering in GDL, due to my latina GF, but figured it was worth a check around the lakeside. I noticed several people on this forum have asked about lakeside, and there have been comments saying that lakeside is a no-go. So here goes. As far as I can tell (and I speak fluent spanish and have several locals as friends), there were 3 joints in lakeside. 1 in Jocotepec, 1 in San Juan Cosala and 1 between San Juan Cosala and Ajijic.
Here goes:
In Jocotepec: The Chivis Bar, approx. 1 mile east of the Guadalajara - Mazamitla Hwy. in Jocotepec on the main road leading out of Jocotepec. It is a small strip joint with hotel rooms out back. Apparently, it is open all week, but the goods are only there on Fri, Sat and Sun. I have only had the pleasure of going there on a Fri, at 11 PM, at which time there were about 10 or 12 girls working. Nothing better than a 5, unless you are drunk or desperate. Supposedly they get better on Saturdays, but I doubt it, however I will try to find out. I would recommend this place only to guys with ugly gringa wives, who are dying for action. The entrance fee is $20 pesos ($1.80 USD) on all days. Beers cost $20 pesos as well. Apparently this is the only place in Jocotepec, although, without a doubt, there are pretty (non-working) girls on the street, that would be a good addition to this bar. I don't know what girls charge at this bar for service, as they were not pretty enough for me, but it can't be too much.
In San Juan Cosala: There was apparently a pretty good strip club in the middle of town, right off the highway, but it has apparently been closed down for a year now. These were the hottest girls on the riviera, and rumor has it they will open back up, but I wouldn't hold my breath. If I hear anything I will let you know.
between San Juan Cosala and Ajijic there is a bar on the north side of the carreterra, approximately 3/4 of the way to S. J. C. coming from Ajijic. This bar apparently has prostitutes in it, although it doesn't have rooms so I'm not sure how it works. It was closed this Friday, but it was open (and empty) on Wednesday. As I drove by, I noticed an older (maybe 28 or 30) year old women standing out front in puta outfit. I have my friend's word that these girls are willing to play for money, but I don't know more than that. I will try to investigate as I can.
The other options at lakeside are La Barca and Ocotlán, which are further away (east side of the lake, near Michoacán) or Santa Rosa or Boom Boom, both near the entrances of GDL.
I will try to get more info, but for now, I just wanted to let you all know there is action at lakeside, albeit very limited. If you have the time/money/car to go to Guadalajara, that is probably your best option.
Now, if you guys can help me out, I would be much appreciative. I am looking for a puta that is SKINNY, MORENA (VERY DARK, the DARKER THE BETTER), and going for between $400 - $500 pesos. I will check out Mediterraneo and Avenida Gigantes and 5 de Mayo (my price range right now, unfortunately).I don't want a white looking girl, my girlfriend (from Guadalajara) is white enough... Hahahahaha. Anyway, any names would be much appreciated. I'll keep y'all updated on mongering info lakeside.
Cheers,
Coahuila
First of all, thank you to all that have posted here and in other areas. I have gleaned a lot of information that has helped me find and enjoy some action here and there.
Mongering and family vacations don’t mix too well. That having been said, I slipped away a few times in Guadalajara and enjoyed some action and learning experiences.
If you walk to the far end (south east) of the Plaza de Mariachis and go one block south you will find Calle Gigantes. Then walk about 4 blocks east to 5 de Mayo. Turn south again and on your left, about 2 doors south of the corner on the east side of the street is the Orange Wall that has been reported in this forum previously. There were 2 women, about 8’s standing at the entryway to a clean, nice courtyard. I went about dark on a Friday afternoon and picked Patty from the line-up. She is tall, about an 8 in looks, 23 and from Veracruz. There were about 8 women there, mostly 7’s or 8’s in looks. We went back to a basic room and proceeded to engage in the business at hand. As previously reported, this is a traditional Mexican brothel. The base rate was about 300 pesos, if I remember right and Patty added to that rate if she got fully nude, performed covered BJ, etc. There was no kissing and Patty chewed and popped her gum all through the act. That could have been annoying but it was actually just funny to me how she spent her time while working. She found out that I was going to Puerta Vallarta later that week and asked me to bring her a present. I speak good Spanish so language wasn’t a problem. I suppose you would have difficulties here if you don’t but I think you would probably figure each other out. Total cost was about 450 pesos. Overall it was a pleasant way to spend an afternoon.
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Saturday I slipped away mid afternoon and had a taxi take me to Mediteraneo on Ninos Heroes street, just about a half block north and a half block west of the Mision Carlton hotel. There were about 7 girls, mostly 5’s to a few 8’s in appearance, in the foyer and one took me up to a room and asked if I wanted to see all the girls to chose from. I said yes and they paraded up the hall with the clicking of the heels and introduced themselves. I ended up going with Allie (Alejandra) who had brought me to the room. She spoke no English but we did fine in Spanish. She told me the price for full service was 470 pesos and for 200 more we could go bareback. I am not sure if that was bareback sex or just the BJ but I declined. Allie was about a 7 in looks but in my VERY limited experience with mongering I would rate her a 9 in performance. She seemed enthusiastic with whatever I wanted to try and her DFK was phenomenal. She spent the time I wanted and there was no rush, no knocking on the door. When we finished we showered and played in the water for quite a while. One thing to note: There was no change back from the 500 peso note, so unless you ask for the change specifically, you probably will pay 500 pesos for a 470 peso service. Overall, I enjoyed Allie and the Mediteraneo muchisimo.
Since Saturday was my birthday, I decided to go out to some strip bars for the night. I had asked the taxistas about some clubs and had heard about Boom Boom (mentioned previously in this forum) and one called “Krystal.” I jumped in a taxi and he took me through the futbol riots on a very roundabout trip to a club called “Golden Girls.” There was no cover charge, if I remember correctly. It reminded me of a Vegas casino, very posh, velvet ropes, plush carpet and nice décor. After the pat-down for weapons at the door I was ushered in and seated, being asked for tips along the way. There were big screen TV’s playing hard-core porn on the walls and a dancer on the runway. The music was not too loud and the place was well-lit and not smoky. As it was only about 10 PM on a Saturday night there wasn’t too much action yet. A very beautiful morena (a 9 in my looks-book) in a body stocking with a full, sexy womanly figure came up and wanted to sit with me but I declined her, hoping to get a look at more options. In hind sight, I should have let her sit down right then. Shortly afterwards a Shakira looking gal in a two-piece leopard skin outfit came and sat on my lap and wouldn’t take no for an answer (a 7.5 in my looks book). Well, we ordered her a martini and the other one comes back and we order her one, too. We proceed to decide it is Shakira’s birthday, too! Wow, what a coincidence! They pull down their tops and shove their hooters in my face, hug me, rub against me and show me that they are both clean-shaven down under. Both are from Venezuela, working here in México. After 3 beers for me and 3 martinis each for them I am getting a little nervous about the fact that I only have about 2,000 pesos on me and I left my credit cards in the room. I also felt out of place in such a ritzy joint. I am more a beer than fine wine kind of guy. The girls then decided to take me to a back room and show me what I was missing, despite my plea that I didn’t have my tajetas de credito with me. In the room Shakira told me I could have sex with both of them for a mere 5,000 pesos. Well, I decided to exit as gracefully as I could and left to get my credit cards. As I was afraid of, the bill for the 3 beers and the 6 martinis was 1,200 pesos! However, a bouncer from the club decided to come with me in the taxi and make sure I returned (I guess). I wasn’t sure what the story was but he came along with me to my hotel downtown. I left the taxi and paid the taxista to take him back to the club, using the excuse I had to talk to my kids before I returned. He was none too happy but I was relieved to go up to my room without an incident and fetch my tarjetas de credito for my next excursion.
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After shaking Magilla from the Golden Girls, I took a taxi to Krystal. It is somewhere near the Mision Carlton. Where the décor and bouncer’s suits in Golden Girls was modern Vegas style, Krystal was right out of the gangster era. Bouncers and staff in Krystal had pin-striped suits and greased down hair. I expected to see violin cases and bleached blonde bimbos. After the pat-down at the door I was ushered in to a dark, art deco style strip bar where 2 women were dancing on the runway. As the place was full I was seated near the restroom and the traffic was too much for me. The music was a lot louder than the earlier place but that was OK since I wasn’t doing too much talking to anyone yet. My beers were brought out and I was given a dish of peanuts and some cucumber slices covered with chili, toothpicks to eat them with. After about 20 minutes a tall morena, womanly figure like I like (not fat, but well-rounded) introduced herself as America and sat down with me. We chatted a little, I bought her a drink and she took me to the back room. She was an 8 in my book for looks and probably about an 8 for her performance. She and the waiter convinced me to buy her a bottle of good stuff (Boone’s Farm, I shit you not!) and the waiter sold me a condom for 200 pesos! Well, deride me if you will, but I went ahead and had a wonderful time with her. She was sexy! She poured the fine wine (!) over her breasts and had me suck it off and she knew how to push my buttons. Bottom line is I got out of there for about $500 USD! (Ow, stop hitting me, I know, it was stooped!) I had a great time. We talked for about 45 minutes afterwards and she wanted to give me her number and see me outside. She also wanted to marry me since, according to her, all the men in Guadalajara are gay, or at least a good share of them. After the knock on the door, she left and forgot to give me her number. One think I didn’t like was the way the waiter and the bouncers came in the room while I was disrobed. It was a little awkward to me. Overall I had fun but I was a chump to pay that much. Does anyone out there know how to go to one of these clubs and not pay so much? Or even go to them and spend time before you are dragged in the back room? LOL I think if I took a wingman with me it might help, give me someone to talk to so I can put off the advances of the girls until I see the one I want.
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We (my kids and I) left Guadalajara Monday and toured Tequila, Tepic, San Blas, drove through Puerta Vallarta (yuck) Manzanillo area (great) Colima, Michoacan and Laguna Chapala area before ending up back in Guadalajara the next Friday. I didn’t get a chance to check out any of these areas. Puerta Vallarta was so crazy I didn’t even stop there. My next trip I want to check the small towns like Barra de Navidad and find out what is available there. I assume you can find action about anywhere if you ask the right person. It also may matter what season you are there; at Barra the town was about empty since it was just at the end of the rainy season and the tourists hadn’t flocked into town yet.
I am sure you could find something in Manzanillo; it is a big shipping port. Any sailor town must have some action somewhere.
Friday night I broke away and went out to see what was going on. At the advice of this forum I walked down Calle Hidalgo to check out Hotel Paris and Lipstick. On the way down I glanced inside the Hotel Hidalgo (#14 Hidalgo, about a quarter block from Agua Fria) and saw 4 girls sitting there. Hmmm, I thought, I need to check this out. First I went on down and checked out Lipstick and the Paris. There were girls standing in the front and back door of the Paris but they were buffaloes. Now, I guess huge girls need business too, but even I have standards and highly painted 200 pound plus women yelling at me from the lobby are just out off my radar screen, thank you. Lipstick had nothing going on yet, even though it was a Friday night it was only about 10 PM. So after drinking the two beers included in the 120 peso cover charge, back up the street I went, into Hotel Hidalgo. There were 3 or 4 5’s and a 6 there. The lobby was not very nice but when I took Claudia back to the room the lobby looked a lot better. There is a reason the tourist board rated this place 1 star, there are no less stars to rate with! That being said, I had a nice time with Claudia, a 30-year-old single mother who performed as a 7 but looked like a 6. The price was just 260 pesos, unless you wanted a BJ and that was 150 more. Afterwards we talked a little and she told me that the girls didn’t like being called prostitutes or putas anymore; they preferred the term “Sexo Servidoras” or something like that. She was a quiet, almost meek lady and very pleasant to be around. If it hadn’t been for the cobwebs from hell and the dust rhinos in the room, as well as the battered doors this wouldn’t have been so bad. Overall I enjoyed my time with Claudia.
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Thanks for sticking with my long reports. I see, reading back that I got my dates a bit messed up. The visit with Claudia at Hotel Hidalgo I reported in the last posting was on a Sunday night before we left for San Blas and Puerta Vallarta. That would explain why there was so little going on at Lipstick and only 3 or 4 women at Hotel Hidalgo.
When I returned to Guadalajara on Friday I slipped away to check out Lipstick. I stopped in to a bar called “La Gruta” (the grotto) and had a few beers. There were about 30 men and two women there, it was a normal club but the live band music was so loud it was painful to this old gringo. I did enjoy the service, drank a couple of Sol beers and ate the peanuts and chillied cucumbers they gave me for antojitos (snacks). There were a few more women showing up when I left at 10 PM. I suppose if I stayed later things would have started to move more around midnight but I would probably be stone deaf now if I had stayed. I also had plans for the next day with my kids. It is hard to negotiate a rented Suburban in Guadalajara traffic on too little sleep and a hangover! Not recommended, either, since the traffic is very heavy and driving is always a challenge there.
Walking past Hotel Hidalgo I noticed there were 10 or more women in the lobby and some of them smiled and nodded to me as I walked past. There appeared to be a couple of 7’s and maybe an 8 amongst the 5’s and 6’s in there. I continued down to the Paris Hotel and Lipstick to see what was up. At the Paris once again the women were brazen, painted and LARGE! There was one that was of acceptable tonnage but her face looked sour like she had overdosed on limes. Not someone I would pay to be with from the nasty look on her face.
At Lipstick I was greeted at the door by security who patted me down for weapons and taken to a table (tip please?) A waiter brought my two beers and I had to demand my change back from the 200 pesos I gave him for a 120 cover charge. Almost immediately Rocio came and sat with me. She was about 5’ 5” and 140 pounds, not too bad looking and really knew how to work me. I bought her a bucket of beers, little Estrellas, for 700 pesos. “But Papi, if you buy me these we can be alone and no one will molest us!” I heard that many times that night. Well, we ended up in a private room where she teased me and worked me and insisted that if they found out we doing the nasty they would charge me more. I don’t know what else they thought I was doing with that condom they sold me for 50 pesos…
Every once in a while they would come in and sell us more beers, most of which I drank, a bottle of Boone’s Farm, or just make sure that I was OK with the charges I was running up on my credit card. Every time I told her I needed to leave she would get a little more intimate with me, blow me for a few minutes or mount me for a bit. I let it go on because I was enjoying the attention and getting pretty messed up drinking all of her beers. Finally when I was adamant about leaving, she started the DFK and kept me there a while more. When all was said and done, I left with a LARGE credit card bill. They poured me into a cab and I went back to the hotel for the night.
Like I said in my last posting, how in the hell do you hang out at one of these clubs without being manipulated, tipped to death and pressured into spending waaaaaay more than you can afford? In retrospect I should have just stopped at Hotel Hidalgo and took care of business. There was a lot of variety there when I walked past. I guess you pay for your education and if you keep getting F’s in class you continue to pay. Probably the best lesson for me to learn is that with my personality I need to confine my mongering to an estetica like Mediteraneo or hotel like Hidalgo where I can do my business and leave for a set price without having people coerce me into tipping and buying ridiculously expensive drinks for my continued participation. What I would really like to find, in Guadalajara or elsewhere, is a club or bar where the 25 to 35 year old divorced, single or widowed women hang out where I could just hang out, have a few drinks at my own pace and maybe make some friends.
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Well, the trip was winding down. Saturday afternoon I put my kids on a city bus to go to the Atlas-Pachuca futbol game and I took a taxi to Mediteraneo for my last mongering experience of the trip. I walked in and the room was packed with about 15 girls! Smorgasbord! Rather than have them troop past me in the room again I reached out and took the hand of one I found attractive. Funny enough, I had chosen Allie again without recognizing her! She was just as sweet, passionate and pleasing as last time. Allie knows how to blow, make just the right slurping sounds, fondle and nibble your balls without hurting them. Many times when a gal plays with my balls they are too rough and I end up with two acres. LOL. We tried about every position, doggie, cowgirl, missionary, reverse cowgirl where I finally reached temporary nirvana. Allie then wanted to blow me some more but I opted to just kiss her for a while. What was nice about her was that when we kissed she would kiss tenderly if you did or kiss passionately if that is where you led her. Wow, I had a lot of fun with her! We talked for a while and then took a nice, leisurely hot shower. There was no knock on the door and no apparent time pressure.
Just for your information, Mediteraneo is at 972 Ninos Heroes. I took a taxi there from downtown and it was only 18 pesos. I decided to walk to the metro and ride back to my hotel in the centro. I was assured it was only 4 blocks to the metro but it ended up being about 11 blocks to the west on Federalisimo. Add the 4 peso subway fee and you will quickly see that the taxi is your best value here. On the whole taxis were the best value for any trip about Guadalajara, since the traffic is nasty, the one-way streets are crazy, turning left off most main streets involves a 6 block trip to the RIGHT, and the street names change from sector to sector.
Well, in summary, I had a blast in Mexico this trip. My kids enjoyed it; we were treated with a lot of courtesy and respect (since that is what we showed the people) and didn’t have any troubles, except for almost hitting a policeman head-on in Nayarit. Boy was he mad! I thought I was going to jail for certain but some fast-talking, a ton of humble pie and 40 US dollars later we shook hands and parted friends.
If any of you have questions about my limited mongering or my 1,100 miles of driving or what we saw or just anything, feel free to PM me. I would love to share my experiences.
Thanks for all you do on the forum, Jackson and all the contributors.
Tool Shedd
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Nice report, thanks. I love the way you describe your time in the strip clubs. The women and the waiters are masters at extracting every peso. Don't feel bad, it's happened to many of us. And yes, you did come to the right conclusions -- leave your credit cards at home, and the esteticas are better on your pocket book. Also on your health, no hangovers.
I'm curious about Golden Girls. Did you pay the 1200 pesos, then they still sent a bouncer with you to make sure you came back to the club? Weird.
200 pesos for a condom!!! Wow. Answering your question, in the classy and semi-classy clubs, the best strategy for an affordable piece of ass is, as you suggest, setting up something for the next day outside the club. Buy a woman you're interested in a couple of beers and get her phone number. Also, I've priced women at a couple of dives, like Boom Boom, and the price wasn't so bad, well under $100, but the women with one exception weren't 8's or 9's either.
Nice TRs, bro. I also saw Alejandra at Mediteraneo twice and had a great time! From your description of her services, seems like she hasn´t changed at all.
[QUOTE=Tool Shedd] Does anyone out there know how to go to one of these clubs and not pay so much?[/QUOTE]
Well, you ask the taxi driver to take you to Oaxaca, or Veracruz, or Villahermosa. Guadalajara and Mexico City suck as far as strip clubs go. In other cities, the clubs are totally different and are non-rip-off zones. So, don´t take the SC scene in GDL for typical of Mexico.
I decided to try an escort from [url]http://www.divas.com.mx[/url]. Some of the models phone #'s didn't work, but I found one that did: Chiara. Go to [url]http://www.divas.com.mx/chiara.html[/url] to see her. Just a note, the pics are probably always airbrushed. Price is a little high, I even tried negatotion by walking away (telling her over the phone that I would think about it). No deal 2000 pesos, plus 200 pesos for cab to and from my house. That's about $200 USD. Anyway, I figured I give it a try. This girl was not quite as hot in person!. She had lots of tatoos, which obviously don't appear on her web foto. I'd give her a 7.5 maybe an 8.
She showed up in the middle of the afternoon (within 90 minutes of my first call). I'm a younger mongering that can get chicks on my own, so we actually chatted for about 30 minutes--I figured I might be able to score a freebie for dinner on another ocasion. She gave me the option for BBBJ and I said yes. Then we went to Full Sex, every position except reverse cowgirl. This lasted about 45 minutes or so. I then asked her to finish me off with a BJ and she agreed, but she asked me to advise her before I nut. It didn't happen, so I asked her if she had another condom. She said "no." And I said, "good thing I have condoms." So I ended up finishing off missionary style. She stayed at my place for about another 1/2 hour for friendly chat. My Spanish is good, but not perfect. The girl's spanish was from Argentina--a little hard for me to understand.
[QUOTE=Crimsonking]I decided to try an escort from [url]http://www.divas.com.mx[/url]. Some of the models phone #'s didn't work, but I found one that did: Chiara. Go to [url]http://www.divas.com.mx/chiara.html[/url] to see her. Just a note, the pics are probably always airbrushed. Price is a little high, I even tried negatotion by walking away (telling her over the phone that I would think about it). No deal 2000 pesos, plus 200 pesos for cab to and from my house. That's about $200 USD. Anyway, I figured I give it a try. This girl was not quite as hot in person!. She had lots of tatoos, which obviously don't appear on her web foto. I'd give her a 7.5 maybe an 8.
She showed up in the middle of the afternoon (within 90 minutes of my first call). I'm a younger mongering that can get chicks on my own, so we actually chatted for about 30 minutes--I figured I might be able to score a freebie for dinner on another ocasion. She gave me the option for BBBJ and I said yes. Then we went to Full Sex, every position except reverse cowgirl. This lasted about 45 minutes or so. I then asked her to finish me off with a BJ and she agreed, but she asked me to advise her before I nut. It didn't happen, so I asked her if she had another condom. She said "no." And I said, "good thing I have condoms." So I ended up finishing off missionary style. She stayed at my place for about another 1/2 hour for friendly chat. My Spanish is good, but not perfect. The girl's spanish was from Argentina--a little hard for me to understand.[/QUOTE]a lot of these argentina girls travel for 3 month stints to make more money, for example this girl [url]http://www.divas.com.mx/marishka.html[/url] is from BA argentina, and her rates were 50$ an hour (150 pesos 6 months ago) very sweet girl, and highly recomended. but she got smart, and started traveling to make the bigger dollars. so its only economic sense to go where the bigger dollars can be made.
I've had good luck with this service.
[url]http://mx.geocities.com/modelsescortsgdl/index.html[/url]
With my Espanol very, very limited I finally get a guy on the line who speaks decent English. That is after a struggle with the non-English speaking women who answers.
I've seen Alejandra twice. I think she is Alejandra2 on the site but it is hard to tell with no head shots. 18 years old, excellent breasts. Fully shaved. Braces. No English. I've extended to 2 hours both times I saw her. We fucked the whole time. When you can't communicate there is only one thing to do. We did everything except backdoor action which I am not interested in anyways.
Getting her in the Hotel was a problem the 2nd time. Damn, it is embarrassing to see the whole security force, conceirge, desk personnel standing around looking at you and knowing that she really isn't just a "friend" who is visiting. Is there any bribing you can do to avoid this. I am going to give up the hobby if I have to go through this again.
all very helpful information on this report list. i'm just struggling with directions. i've been to gdl a few times and feel pretty comfortable with the area around hilton and intercontinental hotels and the shopping center inbetween.
how far... which direction too
hotel hidalgo
mediterano
mission hotel
plaza de mariachis
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and other mentioned mp's
pls help a brother out here.
[quote=jdbkk555]all very helpful information on this report list. i'm just struggling with directions. i've been to gdl a few times and feel pretty comfortable with the area around hilton and intercontinental hotels and the shopping center inbetween.
below, i have stated verified on the ones that i have actually been to.
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lazaro cardenas 2934
tel 3122-4918 and 3122-7170
jardines del bosque
(north side of lazaro cardenas a few blocks east of lopez mateos)
1050 pesos high quality verified
about 2 kilometers north of el presidente hotel
eduar’s
golfo de cortez #2876
3615-0245
(just one block north of glorieta minerva, on the right)
900 pesos good quality verified
about 1.5 kilometers north of el presidente
select estetica masculina l
900 pesos fairly good quality verified
(located at ave la paz #2246, near the centro magna plaza)
about 1.5 kilometers north of el presidente
monseiur
lopez mateos sur 123
(just south of glorieta minerva on east side of lopez mateos)
900 pesos, cute, but fat verified
about 1 kilometers north of el presidente
casa nova
(lopez mateos sur, about 1 kilometer north of plaza del sol on the right)
(500 pesos generally fatties, not a lot of selection) verifed
about 1 kilometers north of el presidente
jet set
ave mexico 2071
(almost in front of aurrera chapultepec)
griegos
lopez cotilla 1790
(corner of unlon)
mediteraneo
ninos heroes 972
(across from mission carlton hotel)
kassandras 400 pesos
(on bernardo de balbuena a block from avenida america and ave mexico)
the orange wall
go south on independencia (from plaza de los mariachis, left on gigantes about 4 blocks to 5 de mayo, make right, two doors down on left.
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I wish I had the computer savey to make a map for you. Try a "This Thread" search for the places you want to visit and many of the posts give addresses and directions to the various places of interest to you. A good Gdl map can be found at [url]http://tapatios.com/buscador/mapa.html[/url]. The Plaza de Mariachi is in the historic district, at Independencia and Javier Mina. It sounds like you might do best to just take a cab, they are inexpensive.
Thanks gents for the great directions/map/etc. The string of reports in this guide have been great, just hard to piece exactly where they are together in my mind.
I'll be there in early Dec and offer any findings I catch to add to this string.
JD
funny thing happened to me at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] estetica masculina regarding negotiation (lazaro cardenas 2934 tel 3122-4918 north side of lazaro cardenas a few blocks east of lopez mateos). i went there at 3 pm and asked about prices. i was told full service was 1050 pesos. (about $92 usd). as i went there unexpectedly, i only had 1000 pesos in my wallet. the girls presented themselves to me. there were 8 of them, 7's and higher up to a 9. anyway, i took the manager aside to explain my situation, that i was 50 pesos short. he said no, he can't bend on price. i nicely pointed out there were 8 girls doing absolutely nothing, no other customers waiting in line and he was going to see $97 dollars walk out the door. he again wouldn't budge. anyway, so much for negotiating at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. i have a strong feeling that mexican brothels are less likely (not unwilling) to negotiate with gringos. end of the story. i walked away because i had no choice.
Guadalajara is not a great place for mongering, and terrible for getting fotos, but I did get a few from this woman (no face) when I was with her. Enjoy
A quick note: I just recently saw a place down on 5 de Mayo which caught my attention. I didn't go inside, because I was down there on other business (not Mongering) but on my way to San Juan de Dios I walked passed the Orange Wall. I still have never gone in this place so a review on here from someone who has would be great. Anyway, it had two girls standing out front, both dark, short and not too pretty. The prettier of the two was maybe a 5 or 6. A few blocks down towards the market, when the street no longer has the same name, I noticed a loud strip joint type bar, on the same side of the street as the orange wall, with two girls standing out front. One was a 6 and the other an 8. The 8 caught my attention... skinny, dark, cute face, nice body no tits. On my way back I was going to chat her up, but unfortunately she was not infront anymore and I had no time to go in. The first pass was at 4 PM, the second at 6 PM, if that helps anyone. I would like to know more about the bar... has anyone been in or gone with those girls there? What do they charge and where do they well work? BTW on the second pass there were two dif. girls infront of the orange wall. One a 5 and one a 7. So maybe that place has a few gems inside? Who knows. I will hopefully find out soon. PS this was on a Sat.
Coahuila
went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] on a monday at 1 in the afternoon (lazaro cardenas # 2934 tel 3122-4918) and was severely disappointed. selection at this hour was poor. there were 3 girls available. two 6’s and an 8. only 3 girls. i selected stephanie, (the 8). her body was a 9.5 if you don’t mind small b cups. she had a tight body and was thin. nice long blonde hair, face was 7.5. i was quoted the price of 1050 pesos (about $97 usd) and required to pay up front.
this miserable experience started with a massage—i requested that she massage my legs only. she then got me hard, and gave me a condom blow job for about 3 minutes. then asked how i wanted the sex. we started with her on top maybe 4 minutes, the she suggested doggie. after about 2 minutes of this she gave a terrible acting performance telling me she was going to come. fake orgasm, then she suggests missionary and asks me if i came yet. next she asked which position is best for me to orgasm. i said, “are you in a hurry, i want to enjoy this a little bit?” she stated that “this isn’t that kind of place, we only have the room for a limited time and she can’t screw for very long.” i was disgusted and ready to leave, but figured i’ll have her get me off. she was agreeable to more of her on top, then she agreed to finish me off with a blow job. good blow job, but after 2 or 3 minutes, she just got tired and jacked me off with her hand. she gave me a tissue so i can clean myself up, then she put on her clothes and left me.
this experience sucked! it's been my experience that the girl sticks around for a few minutes. i’m not putting down [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], i need to sample some other girls, just beware of stephanie. for $97 us, i expect way better service, i don’t care how bad your day is going.
I was out looking for *****s on a Monday and discovered another Estetica Masculina called Alex. (Ave Arcos No 876 Telephone: 3120.9304 Located at the intersection of Ave Arcos y Calle Sol). I was quoted 1000 pesos for massage and sex. The selection was nowhere near worth 1000 pesos, There were 5 girls ranging from 6 to 7. Definitely not worth the price! The further told me that 900 pesos was oral sex only and 800 pesos was a hand job only. I'll check it out again--but remember feel free to walk away.
I will be making my second visit to GDL in January. Made my first visit in the fall of 2003. I stopped by High Class-- it was great at the time. I also tried the hotel's massage service, but the older hag visited rather than the prettier one. My buddy, who speaks little Spanish had her. LOL
Anyhow, I have been chatting with quite a few local non-pros via tapatios website. I will let you know after I return if I have anything worth reporting.
I am grateful for those who post such clear reports.
Thank you.
hey. First post on isg.
Just been to Mediterano here in Guad. I'll tell you about Cynthia.
She must be 30's. Slim, not the biggest breasts but nice ass and quite a pretty face. Anyway a few months back we had sex and it was good. But I never expected it too be soo good this time. Really.
Starts off with a good massage. She strips off and sits on you, oiling you up and massaging you, maybe 5 mins. But after is when the real fireworks are let off. You turn over. She starts massaging the vital muscle which is why we are in the place in the first place. A bit off fondling for a while and she slips on the condom and starts blowing. I let her fully arouse me and then I lay her on her back. We fucked a while, very intimate, kissing and all. Then she plays with your balls while you take her doggy style.
Feeling very randy. I asked her to stand up and I banged her from behind. Then the shower. Again she bent over while I took her and water was running on us. Then dripping wet to the bed for some more of me on her and her on me! Wow. I requested a hand job to finish off so we lay side by side kissing and her stroking me. Then I got on her for a tit wank. A bit of brit eng here. She jerked me off with her tits, then blew me, no condom. Then what happened suggests that I think she probably fanced me. I finished off inside her but with condom. No I have never done this before but this experience was more of a man making love to woman reather than man fuckign a experience. We lay for a few minutes just kissing.
Anway, all my experiences in this place have been exellent. 460 pesos. Def worth it. Forget the strip clubs. Theyll milk your money dry, . Here they milk your member dry. I'll be back. You should try it too. Just a bit worried about the sex without condom. I know in states and europe girls take contraceptive pills daily to prevent conception. Is it widely available here.
On a general note. Not all the girls are really sexy but better than other places. And any reports on cynthia would be great. I gotta find out if shes really a nympth or if she just has a little crush on me.
Thanks
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I went to High Class last week. Slim pickings. I chose Allison. Price was $550. Experience was ok. Not much else to add about the experience. I did what I came to do, but the experience was uninspired.
Hi,Big John 1 here,I am going to Guadalajara in a few days,could I please have address and directions to this place ASAP and hours Cynthia is there if you can,much appreciated,you may post here or pm me as I am a paid member.Muchas gracias.
Just been to Mediterano here in Guad. I'll tell you about Cynthia.
She must be 30's. Slim, not the biggest breasts but nice ass and quite a pretty face. Anyway a few months back we had sex and it was good. But I never expected it too be soo good this time. Really.
Starts off with a good massage. She strips off and sits on you, oiling you up and massaging you, maybe 5 mins. But after is when the real fireworks are let off. You turn over. She starts massaging the vital muscle which is why we are in the place in the first place. A bit off fondling for a while and she slips on the condom and starts blowing. I let her fully arouse me and then I lay her on her back. We fucked a while, very intimate, kissing and all. Then she plays with your balls while you take her doggy style.
Feeling very randy. I asked her to stand up and I banged her from behind. Then the shower. Again she bent over while I took her and water was running on us. Then dripping wet to the bed for some more of me on her and her on me! Wow. I requested a hand job to finish off so we lay side by side kissing and her stroking me. Then I got on her for a tit wank. A bit of brit eng here. She jerked me off with her tits, then blew me, no condom. Then what happened suggests that I think she probably fanced me. I finished off inside her but with condom. No I have never done this before but this experience was more of a man making love to woman reather than man fuckign a experience. We lay for a few minutes just kissing.
Anway, all my experiences in this place have been exellent. 460 pesos. Def worth it. Forget the strip clubs. Theyll milk your money dry, . Here they milk your member dry. I'll be back. You should try it too. Just a bit worried about the sex without condom. I know in states and europe girls take contraceptive pills daily to prevent conception. Is it widely available here.
On a general note. Not all the girls are really sexy but better than other places. And any reports on cynthia would be great. I gotta find out if shes really a nympth or if she just has a little crush on me.
Thanks
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Hey big john. its located on niños hereos one block from the independencia intersection opposite the Calton Misson hotel and close to a walmart. Cynthia works from 2pm til 8ish most days I think though ive only been during the week. If youwant more info im happy to answer. I know a few places around town, table dances and massage parlours.
When I came to Guadalajara, I thought it would be easy to contribute to this forum with fotos and experiences of mongering here. Reality turned out to be far different.
There are esteticas for men, where service is variable, but I’ve never come across a really good one. Usually hurried, but fairly cheap $50 to $100. Never allow any pictures to be taken.
My best experiences have been at the various strip clubs. You get to see the women before asking them to come to your table for a “lady drink”. Prices vary from club to club, but $15 to $20 is normal. Once you’ve bought the drink for them, your hands can wander, the better ones will actually take out their breasts for easier access J
A private dance, in a secluded booth can cost $20, where you can touch everywhere.
The best bet is to just get their phone number, and arrange to see them the next day at your hotel, or whatever. There’s no guarantee they will show up, I’ve been disappointed many times, but some will.
A few fotos of my favourite are included.
One more time, with fotos?
[QUOTE=Dean69]I went to High Class last week. Slim pickings. I chose Allison. Price was $550. Experience was ok. Not much else to add about the experience. I did what I came to do, but the experience was uninspired.[/QUOTE]
Dean69, tell me that it's $550 pesos and not dollars.
Gracias
Country John
Tool, fantastic trip report. You sure covered a lot of ground in Guadalajara. You probably walked past my heart a few times when you were there. You see, I left my heart in Guadalajara. Ahhhhhhh Kenia.
The mongering scene is actually quite good there. But you can get hood-winked in a heart-beat by the girls and by the bars. They do this stuff every single day of the year. If you are not sharp, they'll get you. I dropped over $500.00 one evening during my first visit there.
There are tons of joints off Gigante Blvd. They're everywhere. I learned my lessons well and when I returned, for subsequent visits, I had one hell of a time.
Ahhhhh Guadalajara.....Ahhhhh Kenia. I miss you baby.
Country John
Pesos, thank God. Sorry for not qualifying it sooner.
[QUOTE=Country John]Dean69, tell me that it's $550 pesos and not dollars.
Gracias,
Country John[/QUOTE]
Went to High Class, they are open on the weekdays till 9pm and 5pm on the weekends (per Alma the chica I F&ck#ed)! Prices where 500 pesos for a half hour session and 930 pesos for a hour session. Only five girls where there, 3-7's or 8's and 2-5's. Alma was ok in the sack and seemed to enjoy her time with me. Rooms are pretty big with a suana and two seperate rooms in the same room that house a shower and a restroom. Parking is in the back, you have to open the gate and get buzzed in. Experience okay, I would revisite one day.
high class is located on av lazaro cardenas 2913 about 1/4 mile past [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] on the opposite side of the street. this picture is not mine. i got it from another source. but it is accurate, but a little old. when i went, the construction in front was already done. tip is, it is right by the glorieta of those big huge yellow arches.
Went to Hotel Vigo on a weekday. It is located on Independencia Sur, next to where all the Mariachi guys hang out and hand out cards for gigs in the Centro (downtown). The hotel is actually across the street from them. The girls hanging out in front are working girls. I was offered BBBJ, with a full nude lay for 200 pesos which is roughly 18 dollars. Maybe these girls are acustomed to quick lays that don't involve getting completley undressed and that is why she addressed she will get fully naked? But beware. Occasionally the cops do circles and will question you and try to take you to jail if you stop and talk to the girls. There is a alley in the back also, so you can drive in circles. But once again the cops do the circle also. If your in a taxi walk in and talk to the girls inside. Girls are not super models and will range from 5's-7's, something cheap and fast! I also ran into another one but I cannot remember what it was called. It is kind of behind HOtel Vigo, just take Franciso Madero until you get to 8 de julio. It is on the left hand side. Thats all I know and I could be a little wrong. I do know there is a gay club near it. When I went to turn around you have to pass by it.
I wonder if anyone can give me a hand with this? I have a favorite young lady from the Chicago Club in TJ, that went to winter in Guadalajara. I'm kinda planning on surprising her in a couple of weeks. She mentioned a club name to me, that sounded alot like 'quillas'. Could that be the correct pronunciation for 'Kuah's"? And where might it be?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Njminer1]I wonder if anyone can give me a hand with this? I have a favorite young lady from the Chicago Club in TJ, that went to winter in Guadalajara. I'm kinda planning on surprising her in a couple of weeks. She mentioned a club name to me, that sounded alot like 'quillas'. Could that be the correct pronunciation for 'Kuah's"? And where might it be?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Sounds more like Kaos. A strip cub on Mariano Otero and Perefercio Sur.
KAOS Club pronounced in español as kah-uhs. One of the expensive rip-off clubs in GDL. Don't expect a CC or Adelitas type experience there... although if you know a girl the rip off may be less severe. Emphasis on MAY.
Coahuila
Thank you, Coahuila. And thanks for the warning. I'm expecting to only have to be in the club once, to find her. Then we'll be on our own for a couple of days. She doesn't have a 'manager', so there'll be no worries that way.
Thanks again
Having read about Meditarraneo here I thourhgt I'd give it a try. Well, at least it's close to the centro, and has (very limited) parking. Other than that. There were half a dozen girls there, mostly plumpers. I picked Mayra, who met me and turned out to be the prettiest of the lot. When asked her age, she hesitated, and then said "29". About right I'd say; she told me she has two daughters - 6 and 12 years old.
Nice bod - quite slim, maybe 34-36B, a little bit of a tummy, but not very much.
The session was in a small cubicle and consisted of about a 5 minute back massage, a short "blow in my ear", flipover for about 2 minuts genital massage then CBJ and then CG.
I've never had anything so loose! I'm not huge, but neither am I small - in fact when she was putting on the condom she mentioned that it was difficult because it's a bit wide - but, I might have well been waving it around in the air! There was a bit more sensation when we went mish, but not much, so finally I suggested doggy at which point she turned the lights down almost to dark (don't know why - she is pretty) and I decided to just get on with it and do my best to finish. 30 Minutes, including shower before and after.
The price was 490 pesos; for a quickie I'd rather go to High Class for 550 pesos, but I still think that if you don't mind going a bit higher, you can't beat Jet Set.
My last couple of visits to Jet Set I had Kathy. Definitely the least physically attractive but the best action anywhere. Good massage with lots of teasing, touching everywhere, DFK, good BBBJ and FS. And their rooms are spacious and bright. The room I like has a full-width mirror on the wall, but I think it's the only one like that. Current price 1,100 pesos for the hour, but on balance I think it's worth it. I've been there 4 times, and every one was good.
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Uh, I guess I can understand why you think she's Lores, ha ha :)
When I shrink the 5 Mpixel fotos down to 640 x 480, I just add .lores (low resolution) It's not her name, but I'm sure she'll get a chuckle when I call her that!
Photos too!
Hey guys,
I know it's frowned upon, but my specialty / knowledge is European Monguering. Currently in Guad and staying at the Hilton. What are some of the easiest / closest monguering ways?
Any help would be great.
sammy, for daytime mongering, the esteticas masculinas are your best bet, and run about us$100 for an hour or so. take a look in the yellow pages, or alternately get a taxi and ask him to take you to the intersection of mariano otero and lazaro cardenas. this is not too far from the hilton, but not in walking distance. you'll find high class on the glorieta (traffic circle) at this intersection. if you walk to the west, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is close to the glorieta on the north side of lazaro cardenas. keep walking west and you'll come to jovi, on the south side of lazaro cardenas getting close to lopez mateos. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] usually has the best looking women although girlfriend experience (gfe) can be hard to come by. i've had best luck finding gfe at jovi, although sometimes beauty of the women is questionable. often you'll find a gem at jovi. i believe you can ask for a shorter session time at high class that works out much cheaper than jovi or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. it's easy to walk between the three establishments.
for night time mongering, you can try the high class strip clubs, like kaos and ramses, if you're willing to drop $300+. or set up a date for the next day with the women much cheaper. i've been quoted as low as $50 at low class strip club, one of the clubs on west side of road going to airport. my info on the clubs is dated -- haven't been to any in a while except to sightsee. suggest you do a search here or just browse the thread.
In Guadalajara, the best bet is to go to the strip clubs, after midnight or later.
They're all open till 5:00 or later if they have lots of paying customers. They just lock the doors, and everything goes on till the customers want to stop spending.
Don't spend a lot buying "lady drinks". Just get their phone numbers, and a promise they'll come to you the next afternoon.
You can't barfine a woman in Mexico. They work at the bar from 8:00 PM to 5:00 in the morning, and you'll not get them out of there (well maybe if you want to waste $1000 dollars or more)
I've never come across one who would not give me her phone number and a promise to come over the next day; some never do, but those who do can become great GFEs, even friends.
Spend no more than one lady drink on a woman, gives you a chance to fully explore her body, the better ones will actually pull out their breasts for your ease of access, get to know them a bit, and then decide who you'll call tomorrow.
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i made a run by [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] on saturday. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is one of the better quality esteticas masculinas in guadalajara. an estetica is a place you go to for a haircut, shave, manicure, pedicure, etc. if it's an estetica masculina then you can get a blow job and fs too.
anyway, there were about 8 women, and quality was fair, in the 5-7 range. actually, selection was the worst of any of the times i've been to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. i picked paola, a woman in her late 20's. service was non-gfe, but otherwise decent. the cost is 1200 pesos for an hour, although i believe this is only for the massage time -- there's also a hot tub or steam bath or sauna in the room you can use.
jovi, another estetica masculina nearby, was closed, and lazaro cardenas, the street, had been totally torn up and redone since the last time i was in the area 9 months ago. too bad, the street had a lot of character before with the large trees, but i guess it's good for people who used to have to sit around in traffic jams.
Patron says: "You can't barfine a woman in Mexico."
This is not true for all of Mexico up and down, North and South... I don't think this even aplies in Guadalajara.
Some girls will not go out with you cause they make more money working at the clubs, than getting paid a salida.
One big mistake of going after midnight is exactly that. You are going to the clubs after midnight when the action is the hottest for them. When people staying at the clubs will be the hotshots and high rollers that will pay expensive drinks for them and private dances too.... contrary to you, they are the ones that can not be seen with girls outside the clubs.
You should be arriving at the clubs when action is slow, 10-11 pm so the girls can check you out, and buy the girls drinks so they can know that you are willing and ready for action in or out of the club...
By acting so fast, you let the girls have the upperhand, so they don't care if they are present or not when you set a date for them another day, cause they'll be back at the clubs with their regular routines making the same amount of money they would have made with you.
Of course there are exceptions, but you'd raise the odds in your favor if you acted like a good customer, not one that the girls will detect on the spot as one that will come and go, with no damage done if they miss your boat.
[QUOTE=Patron]In Guadalajara, the best bet is to go to the strip clubs, after midnight or later.
They're all open till 5:00 or later if they have lots of paying customers. They just lock the doors, and everything goes on till the customers want to stop spending.
Don't spend a lot buying "lady drinks". Just get their phone numbers, and a promise they'll come to you the next afternoon.
You can't barfine a woman in Mexico. They work at the bar from 8:00 PM to 5:00 in the morning, and you'll not get them out of there (well maybe if you want to waste $1000 dollars or more)
I've never come across one who would not give me her phone number and a promise to come over the next day; some never do, but those who do can become great GFEs, even friends.
Spend no more than one lady drink on a woman, gives you a chance to fully explore her body, the better ones will actually pull out their breasts for your ease of access, get to know them a bit, and then decide who you'll call tomorrow.
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Hi,
I am visiting Guadalajara next week.
are the hotels GFE?
Can we bring Girls to hotels or can call guest?
Spark
Carlos, you're right, it is easier to talk with the stunners, the 9's and 10's, when the club isn't busy. And you can barfine women at many clubs in Mexico. But Patron's advice IMO is the best ever posted here for the women working the higher end clubs in Guadalajara. You're going to break the bank if you barfine one, and the majority outside of maybe the Men's Club will see you outside working hours. I also liked his advice about buying drinks. The waiters and the women push hard for drink sales, and you can blow a couple of thousand pesos on drinks in a hurry.
And another disagreement -- there's no need to show up early and buy women a lot of drinks if you want to have sex inside the club. There's not exactly a line of patrons competing to pay 3000 pesos to get laid on site. If you want to be around the club when things are happening and maybe get a woman to go home with you after closing, coming in late after midnight makes a lot of sense.
Spark, I haven't had a problem in larger hotels, Crowne Plaza, Presidente/Intercontinental, Howard Johnson's. My dates usually come by in daytime and aren't dressed like hookers though. If you want no "walk of shame", you can get into the Hotel Tapatio or the old Camino Real (around Vallarta & Lazaro Cardenas) without ever having to walk by the front desk and bellmen.
I agree with you Tiny.
What I meant about the drinks is that the girls at the higher end clubs will not sit with you or talk with you, cause they can't stay with you (general house rules all over Mexico) if you don't buy a least one drink.
Oh yes, you are totally right about pushing drinks.
The girls have to drink each drink during the lapse of a song and have a second one ordered before the next song...
You always have to remember that the girls believe that Americans are filthy rich, with dollars to spread around. So they treat you that way.
You have to get thru their heads thay you are simple guys looking for fun outside the club.
If they don't get that idea in a couple of minutes of contact with you, they'll just hop to the locals with lots of Mexican Pesos eager to take your place and eager to spend on the girls.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Carlos, you're right, it is easier to talk with the stunners, the 9's and 10's, when the club isn't busy. And you can barfine women at many clubs in Mexico. But Patron's advice IMO is the best ever posted here for the women working the higher end clubs in Guadalajara. You're going to break the bank if you barfine one, and the majority outside of maybe the Men's Club will see you outside working hours. I also liked his advice about buying drinks. The waiters and the women push hard for drink sales, and you can blow a couple of thousand pesos on drinks in a hurry.
And another disagreement -- there's no need to show up early and buy women a lot of drinks if you want to have sex inside the club. There's not exactly a line of patrons competing to pay 3000 pesos to get laid on site. If you want to be around the club when things are happening and maybe get a woman to go home with you after closing, coming in late after midnight makes a lot of sense.
Spark, I haven't had a problem in larger hotels, Crowne Plaza, Presidente/Intercontinental, Howard Johnson's. My dates usually come by in daytime and aren't dressed like hookers though. If you want no "walk of shame", you can get into the Hotel Tapatio or the old Camino Real (around Vallarta & Lazaro Cardenas) without ever having to walk by the front desk and bellmen.[/QUOTE]
Very true Carlos. This is a little off the subject, but I get annoyed at all the people on this site who blame the dollar inflation in the price of pussy on visiting gringos. They don't realize that there are many prosperous Mexicans, Panamanians, Colombians, etc. that spend money on the girls, and the gringos, especially in places like Guadalajara, don't have much influence on the pricing.
[QUOTE=Carlos Perez] they'll just hop to the locals with lots of Mexican Pesos eager to take your place and eager to spend on the girls.[/QUOTE]
The absolute worst time to go to strip clubs and chica bars is during Christmas vacations and Easter vacations when many Mexicans who have gone to live in the US come back to Mexico. They try to impress their friends and family members by taking them to the "chicas" and throwing around pesos like they were ketchup packets. Of course, the girls eat it up and the rest of us just grit our teeth and wait for them to go back to the States.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Very true Carlos. This is a little off the subject, but I get annoyed at all the people on this site who blame the dollar inflation in the price of pussy on visiting gringos. They don't realize that there are many prosperous Mexicans, Panamanians, Colombians, etc. that spend money on the girls, and the gringos, especially in places like Guadalajara, don't have much influence on the pricing.[/QUOTE]
I wil be in Gaudaljara later this year. I was wondering about contacts for a nice massage with HJ only. In or out.
Best would be a truely good massage with the extra.
Thanks.
This is the most offbase report I have ever read. I travel to Mexico one week per month and I have never encountered a bar where a girl could not be bar fined out if she wants to leave with you. Cancun and D.F. are to most expensive cities in Mexico for chicas and even here the most expensive bar fine I've ever seen is $150 U.S. plus what you negotiate with the chica.
[QUOTE=Unboncoit]In Guadalajara, the best bet is to go to the strip clubs, after midnight or later.
They're all open till 5:00 or later if they have lots of paying customers. They just lock the doors, and everything goes on till the customers want to stop spending.
Don't spend a lot buying "lady drinks". Just get their phone numbers, and a promise they'll come to you the next afternoon.
You can't barfine a woman in Mexico. They work at the bar from 8:00 PM to 5:00 in the morning, and you'll not get them out of there (well maybe if you want to waste $1000 dollars or more)
I've never come across one who would not give me her phone number and a promise to come over the next day; some never do, but those who do can become great GFEs, even friends.
Spend no more than one lady drink on a woman, gives you a chance to fully explore her body, the better ones will actually pull out their breasts for your ease of access, get to know them a bit, and then decide who you'll call tomorrow.
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i was in guad for business, and had some free time to see the sites. having to work during the day kind of excludes the bars as action does not even start until 10, and really get going around midnight. so, the eseticas seem to be the safe sure thing. the cab driver finally finds high class, even though i give him the address, and have a general idea where it is. i arrive around 7pm and i am greeted by a fairly nice looking women. we go to the back and she explains that 30 minutes is 600 pesos, all inclusive. i ask about an hour and am told 930. up stairs we go. the room has a massage table and jacuzzi tub, and a sofa. the adjoining room is a large bath room with a shower. it is rather hot in guad so a nice cool shower felt great. i wish i could remember her name, but it was a spanish name that i had not heard before, so couldn’t pronounce it. any way she arrives back in the room, runs water in the jacuzzi and takes off her clothes. she has an ample rack, all natural, with nice big nipples. she puts oil on my back and gives a little bit of a massage, then it flip, and she starts massaging mister happy. on with the condom, a nice bj, and i mean a nice bj; she was good. after some time she climbs on a bounces. i didn’t care for bouncing, so got her off and on the bottom. i held her legs apart and went in deep. soon enough i was happy, and we got into the jacuzzi. we talked and touched and explored each other for awhile. then got out and went at it doggie with her bent over the couch. had a good time, and would probably go back. went to the little bar outside hc had a beer for 10 pesos, and cab back to the hotel.
later in the week, i had another later afternoon available, so tried [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], another esectica. this looks like a nicer place when you walk in. the guy at the counter asked if i wanted information, so he takes me into the back and says massage only is 600 pesos, but full service is 1200 pesos. then he brings around 15 different girls by the door, each say their name, but is so fast that it is hard to remember any of them. i choose a little spinner this time for variety. she was maybe 5 feet tall and 90 pounds, streaked hair. we go upstairs and i get a shower and a bottle of water. she comes in and gets undressed except for the panties. here at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] they have real massage tables with a hole for your face. she oils up my back and gives a little bit of a rub while straddling me. then it’s time for the flip and she rubs mr happy a while and then starts giving him some bare kisses. part of me thinks this is great, but part of me wants the condom. i don’t want any souvenirs to take home. she puts a condom and i get her on the table to enjoy her body. her little nipples stood right up with a little attention. nice little kitty, more fur than i would like, but very nice. the she swings her legs over the side of the table, and i go in. i don’t think she wanted me on top of her, at 6 feet and 200, i am not a gordo, but bigger then her considerably. any way, this gives me a good vantage point to see mr happy go in and out. then i wanted to switch to doggie, and man that was great, she was so tight. i finished and got another shower, and headed back to the hotel.
next time i am in guad, i want to try some of the other sites. i have been to koas, and that was a rip off. perhaps one of the places in the centro. any one want to offer any suggestions.
finally. last time i wrote my experiences, i got criticism for what i paid. i paid what i paid. i learned from this board what i know, so i am giving information back in hopes to increase the knowledge pool here. if you have anything of value to comment, i welcome your comments. if you want to make criticism that doesn’t add any value, please keep it to your self.
watcher,
nice report. i spent some time in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and was treated quite well. not the best experience i have ever had the price was reasonable and the quality was decent.
i just returned from mexico city and didn't even try to monger. way too many obstacles and distractions.
adios
i haven't been to high class in a long, long time, but you paid the right price in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. at the higher end, mexico is not cheap.
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I had a little free time on my trip to Guadalajara last week so I checked into the ISG's forum and found that High Class sounded like a place to try and that it was on the same street as my hotel Howard Johnson which by the way is next door to the Golden Club. (which is a total waste of money in my opinion)
After finding a parking spot close enough to walk to High Class (btw mongerers it is always good to include parking info in your posts...high class has it's own parking lot in the back which I didn't know about until I was leaving), so I strolled on in and there were two girls and a guy, the better looking girl Vanessa took into a side room to explain the services and the prices. I chose the 35 minute full service and then we went upstairs to a fairly nice room with a jacuzzi tub and a full bathroom attached. I wanted to take a shower so she said she would be back in 5 minutes with a soft drink for me.
So after the shower I laid face down on the table and waited for her...I am sure you all have experienced the "wait" for the masseuse to return...LOL it always seems to be too long!!
So she returns and completely undresses and I'm pleased to see she has a nice body, recently liposunctioned her midriff which was rock hard yet leaving large soft breasts and a nice apple bottom and shaved pussy...ah yes this is going to be nice because she turns out to be a warm and friendly person who enjoys talking. She gave some advice on where to hang out to find civilian/non-pro girls and then once I turned over she started in on a very nice and passionate cbj...sweet, there is even a mirror over the jacuzzi in which I can see us although not that well because the mirror is a little low. We then did a standing doggy style for a bit and then I got her on the table for a face to face with me standing and her on the table and then finished off missionary style. After getting dressed again and going downstairs with her I saw that now there were more girls waiting and a couple of them looked pretty good...say in the 7 range as Vanessa was...she was maybe 7.75.
It was a nice lay for a good time and it cost only about $50 which I used my debit card to pay. I recommend High Class and Vanessa.
Happy Mongering!!!
i arrived early afternoon into gdl. it's sunday here and i thought it would be a good time to check out the scenes by day.
plan a. i'the made advance connection with karla from aff. she was the lone responder that weighed in less than me from the pics exchanged. she sent a bogus phone number and was a no show otherwise. ah well. i was a bit worried of a set up.
plan be. a walk about to see what's happening. i headed out about 4 after a bit of post flight clean up. one thing i noticed right away. sunday afternoon. most of the estetica's close in the late afternoon on sundays. so if you guys want to monger over the weekend. get here on saturday.
my route on foot took me past casa nova on lopez mateos. they were cleaning up and the skank at the door sweeping the place didn't look that inviting. so i kept walking.
a few blocks further and around a corner. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] on one side and first class on the other. well, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] was the 1st one i reached so what the hell. i got the gringo completo special 1200peso. the line of ladies peered in the little waiting area to say their name. not all that bad a line up for a sunday. most were tall, thin, a mix of mexican and western look about them. not a short meat ball in the bunchy. i picked augistina. she had nice hips, a nice smile, was about 5-10 or so tall, i'the guess 125lbx. she said she was 20 years old. she put me on the little table after a fresh shower (i needed one after the walk). put my head through the giant hole in the table (they don't do serious massage at this place obviously). the 3 minute loton massage on the back was lack luster. time to flip over where she concentrated on waking up ole bob that was a bit tired from the walk. 3-4 minutes there and she motioned asking what i wanted. i said her on top.
now, i typically like to please a lady. but this old tired horse was simply ready to go home for the day. she climbed on. there i discovered the little table isn't optimal for this sort of position as there is nothing for her to put her legs on. i skooched her down so my legs could fall off the end and i could sit up and hold her with her feet behind me. 5 min of this and bob was starting to loose his enthusiasm.
i flipped her over, stood on the ground so she could put her legs on the wall behind me and hold herself to the edge of the table for some grinding support. nice position. she was wet and all but seriously. you can tell when i horse has had enough riding for one day. she just wanted to finish me off, shower and get on with going home.
looks like i closed out the place as the closed signs were out. i walked across the street to follow my route back home and see what first class looked like. in the dark hall. a couple of ladies sitting, talking at a greeting table. i'the guess they were open but i'the had enough tired ponies for one day.
attached. pic of karla that stood me up pic of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] exterior
pic of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] room. which isn't bad. like a 1 star mexican hotel with clean sheets / towels.
jd
A nice rebound after a dead horse. Karina.
She said she's 21, not from GDL originally but been here for a few years. She didn't speak much English to complement my pathetic Espaniol. But somehow, we managed.
I called a service from the phone book. A guy said he'the be by in 30 minutes (took an hour) with 2 ladies (he had one) to choose from. Regardless. Karina was a most nice chica. Lots of Mexican features like short short with a bit of padding around the middle. But she was in very good shape. I thought she'the be jelly butt but no. Firm ass.
No messing around. In the room for 3 minutes of hello, how are you. To hell with trying to communicate, lets get naked and have fun. It took me a few trys to get her to open up a bit but once through the door. She liked to kiss, she liked me to finger her growing wet pussy. She had a tiny tiny little clit. So after a few minutes of warming her up there. I moved inside where, to my delight, she realy liked me stroking her G spot.
I had only one hour in my 1500p budget so didn't waste too much time. 2 rounds in several positions. We did the bed, the little couch, lots of fun. She even allowed me to take a couple of pics of her backside while calling the boss to tell him she was coming soon after cleaning up. She showered with me which was fun.
Looks. 7. Cute, nice face, a bit of a Mexican chili ball figure, short short, but firm Service. 8. GIF service which was really nice after the dead horse treatment the night before.
Attitude. 7. A little nervious at the start but she turned around nicely. I just wish she would have not been working on the clock as I would have much enjoyed the 4 hour round the world with her.
JD
Interesting lady. I found her doing a search for escorts. Turns out. She's 26 (info on the web is a bit dated). She's in pretty good shape. Nice body though a bit of the mexican figure (a bit thick in the hips and above).
I discovered that she's married and is an active swinger. She said that the swingers network is very alive in Mexico. In Mexico City in particular. In GDL there are 2 swingers clubs. She's never seen a Gringo there before and reported that most of the time. Tons of guys and only ladies that come with their husbands. She said she and her husband to at least once a week where she hooks up with other couples or other guys. She prefers to go to a hotel for sex but they do it in the club too. She called them Swingers Bars. I'll have to investigate further.
As one would imagine, she was rather open minded. She was smart, showing up at the hotel in more business like clothing not to attract attention "I'm a hooker". Just a few minutes after arriving to get comfortable. Off went the clothes.
She really enjoys masterbation. Me, her, both of us. I just wish she would have generated a bit more natural lube to make the experience better. She must have came 3-4 times from what I could tell. With a constant moan. I thought at one point the neighbors must be getting really tired of this act.
Really casual and obviously not needing much motivation. We managed 3 complete cycles (for me) in a bit over 3 hours. Not rushed other than I was dead tired. Interesting. It's not really her profession. I think she does it because she likes it. She pointed to a bit of cash I had on the table on the way out and simply asked. "is for me? " She never counted or mentioned her fees. What a deal. 3 hours for 1200 pesos.
Looks. 7. Nice smile, a bit saggy boobs, good shape though thick in the waist. Trim muff Attitude. 9. She's really in it for the sex. Not the money. The talk about her swap sex life was really a turn on. Too bad my espanol is limited. She likely would have gone all night if I wanted. Service. 8. Nice but I could done with a bit less of the moaning
The pic is from her website ad. It's a bit dated but from this angle. The same chica.
Enyoy
JD
i'll be going to gdl in a week or so. will visit the usual [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] etc. since i will be there for the entire week. can anyone recommend a night club or bar that is "target rich" with women?
thanks
just returned from a delightful week in the gdl and lakeside area. with my so along with me, mongering was difficult, but i managed to squeese in two morning visits to the med estetica at 970 nino hiros, near the mission carlton hotel, where i stayed two nights. the business is right next to the alamo car rental agency, accross the street from the hotel. picked america out of the lineup of 8 chicias, and was very happy with her. about 22, long dark hair, slim with almost budding breasts. not build like most mexican women, and very inclined to please. without a word of english, and me not speaking much spanish, we got along nicely! $500 (about 45usd) bought me almost an hour of complete access to her lovely body.
was so good i went back two days later, and picked her out again! more of the same, but this time i had done my homework. i had written out in spanish (yes, i had help) that i wanted her to come back to my hotel later after her shift. my so was lakeside so that was no problem. anyway, she agreed and appeared in the lobby at 5pm and she stayed until 8pm. was a delightful part of my vacation! i never visited high class, or jovi, or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] this visit at all.
Hello,
I am a native from Guadalajara and I could help you to find what yo are looking for the same goes to all the members of the forum who are going to visit GDl, I have a nextel id if that could help us communicate, there is also a page in sapanish who post experiences like the one we do here al well as advertise motels and escort sites, I do not know if I post the address it would be block so moderator plese let me know if its ok? I do this for the fun and to practice my english and specially because I am a monger too.
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Hola Rockriguez,
Will be in GDL for the mariachi festival on Sept 5-8. Looking for a very good looking, beautiful companion, for dinner and drinks. They say the woman are beautiful in GDL. Green eyes, blond hair. I speak perfect spanish, not a problem. Someone you would want to take home for mom to meet. Let me know!
visiting end of this month (august 2007). this is my first visit to this city. i have very limited language skill. but i will definitely be interested in meeting few woman.
i will like for you people who have visited to help me understand how this works.
from reports i found there seem to be some places which are happening
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] seems to be discussed a lot, first class or high class
i will be more interested in something similar to what jd had. a nice lady to come over and take care of things.
i will like to know the sites where i can find them?
what is a regular rate and what kind of service i can expect?
how to know what is rip off (rate wise) and how to find the best deal? (any help with website addresses will be helpful)
last but not the least, how does the language (or lack of it) and culture plays into this? (lines to pick up girls or ask for the best rate will be helpful)
any guidance from you senior members will be highly appreciated.
this is my first post and i was recommended to look here from the usasexguide.com site.
humble regards,
bt
bangaltiger,
you can try [url]http://www.modelosgalilea.com[/url] or [url]http://www.divas.com.mx/[/url]. the first i believe is an agency and i don't have any experience with it. the second is a mexico city site that also features some indepenedents in various cities in mexico, including guadalajara. i did have a good experience with a woman contacted from divas in mexico city, and cost was around $200 for an hour. i've always hunted in the esteticas (like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]) and clubs in guadalajara, so don't have any advice for you otherwise. divas will show which independents purportedly speak english. if you strike out with the escorts and have a tough time at the clubs because of the language, you can always go to the esteticas masculinas. prices in esteticas run from 400 pesos to 1200 pesos and usually aren't negociable. if you get quoted 1200 pesos for 30 minutes in a dump they're screwing you, while that's the actual price for an hour at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. in some really downmarket clubs, 500-600 pesos is doable, while service in the better establishments will run you more like 2000 or 3000 pesos including the charge for the room. that's for short time, 30 minutes to an hour. you can negotiate with the woman in the club and try to see her the next day or after work for say 1000 to 2000 pesos, depending on time and whether she's a 6 or a 9.
i have been in gdl the last several days. i am staying downtown very near the plaza. i checked out some of the places recommended on here. the eseticas were not very exciting to me. only went to the one near the mission carlton. i arrived about 1pm yesterday. 4 girls. all did not seem thrilled to be there, nor were they thrilled that i was there. check out one strip club--lipstick. about 9pm...there were 10 guys and two girls working. i know it was early but the altitude ajustment for me makes me really tired. the hotel vigo scene had several skanks who literally smelled like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url]. i did find some promising girls at the hotel paris. the hotel paris can easily be seen by going to plaza where the big huge metal sculpture of a twisted spear (or something like that) surrounded by an awesome fountain and looking north.
i'm off to monterrey this afternoon where i know i will have a terrific time with the chicas!
bangal tiger,
i did a set of simple google searches with the words escorts, guadalajara, mexico, etc. you'll get a number of websites with a range of service offerings.
my search revealed that pricing in gdl is quite high and choices so so at best. many options running well over $200 for an hour session. i refined my search to looking for options under $150 as that was my threshold for company. and not that much over what you'the pay at any of the esthetica joints. (they will run you $110 and up).
it sort of depends on if you want home delivery or you get to them. another consideration to think of is how to get the ladies into and out of your hotel room. some gdl hotels are a bit skiddish on hookers walking through their lobby. you'll more than likely have to bring them in and take them back out yourself. so best you figure out if there is a graceful route for your hotel to avoid the long lobby walk of shame. the el presidente for one is really difficult to get past security.
one i called last trip. she met me in the lobby in somewhat professional clothes not to stand out too much. we chatted for a bit and then hit the elevator. she also was not a clock watcher. stayed over 2 hours and didn't haggle over price. the others in my experience will be watching the clock, receive several calls durring/after so you have to manage your time.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and such are not that far from many of the hotels (actually a short walk if weather permits). you can relax as you want and have a good selection of ladies to choose from. the down side is that hours need to be during the day or early evening. and the pain of getting there/back. up side is service is a given and the room is clean.
i'the still give the nod to home delivery. just be careful about quality/cost as you can get toasted. those that were reasonably priced in my opinion.
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jd
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Gentlemen, could you all possible have name's of some nice dance clubs in Guadalajara?
My novia is meeting me at the airport, and she's not real fimiliar the GDL, as I am somewhat fimiliar, but not into the dance club names.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Fryer45
Gentleman,
As I get ready for the trip, I appreciate all the feedback provided. JD and Tiny12 thank you for your comments.
This is my first venture and I know it will be fun.
Thank you,
BT
Hey fryer,
In regards the last post there are several dance clubs and nice as you mention, for example the Boose and Mohoma that are in Avenida Patria and Americas they are very close to each other, occhio club, etc, but it is mostly 18-25 in the age range I do not know if that is what you are looking for, mail if you have any questions.
Rockdriguez..
Thanks for the info. I beleive there is one club called the Cocobanna. It has like a 14 piece band, dance floor, & th e band plays all types of music. Is it still around. Like to salasa, & other type of dances. If you know of a good slasa club, please let me know here on the boards.
Again, thank you for the info.
Fryer
The one you mention is the Copacabana, it is a nice place to go for a dance, also if you likecubano music there is this place in downtown called the mutualista and they played cubano music I am not sure if is fridays or saturdays it is kinna an old cantina but really cultural place, a lot of visitors go there as well, well let me know if you have any more questions.
I will be in San Miguel de Allende in October. I have read some info on Fiesta Charra and Alter Ego from the past but wanted to get some up-to-the-date info on the scene there. Has anyone been to either of these places recently? Other places you would recommend? Any specific ladies of special interest? All input would be appreciated. Thanks
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** Having visited Strip Clubs in Mexico City I would say that visiting Esteticas Masculinas in Mexico is the VERY BEST VALUE for your time and money.
Prices and Information accurate for August 2007
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Mediteraneo: Easy to find and get to. If your in the Zona Historica simply get in a cab and have him take you to the Mission Carlton Hotel. Its accross the street.
Parking: They have a large indoor guarded parking lot, being paranoid I would never park right in an establishment. Don't know why exactly but just the way I feel.
Girls: As stated in many other posts mostly the 5-6 range, no real hot-hotties all on the slightly weight side but no really unpleasent.
Stayed with a girl named Janet. Not rushed, had a great time. Worth the donation of 490. 00 pesos, decided to offer a small tip that wasn't asked for and graciously accepted.
High Class:
This place and other places on Lazaro Cardenas are a little intimidating to drive to if you don't know what your doing.
L Cardenas is a major artery with Laterals (meaning lanes that run paralell to the main artery which you need to be on to get to establishments whose address is L. Cardenas). Stay in the middle until you approach your address and than get on to the laterals.
It is on your Right hand side if your driving AWAY from Central Guadalajara.
Girls: Much better looking than Mediterraneo mostly (7 to 8) with a 2-3 (8 to 9)
I got two in a row. (didn't "terminado" on purpose with girl #1 so that my libido and drive would be high for girl #2)
Explained to girl #1 that she was awesome but I only had one chance to get out and about in Guad and I wanted to girls (not at the same time but one right after another). After we finished the session she graciously called the lineup right to my room and I chose again. Indeed VERY High Class.
Girls I saw:
Alyssa: Very Pretty. Awesome man-mades, had a decent time, best time was when I massaged her. Both girls allowed this and its my usual style. I massage the girl for 1/2 the time, they massage me to completion for the second half. (recommended: if Eye Candy is really important to you).
Samana: Pretty, curvey, can say shes chubby. But she is on the border. Make no mistake she is a looker with a nich curvered proportioned hot bod. Provided an excellent service. A little rushed. Had to remind her to keep the massage stokes slow and firm. Again I massaged her first. And was rewarded by nice sighs, awes and compliments.
If both girls are available I would choose Samana over Alyssa.
Price: 550 pesos
Now my Spanish and mongering tips: Dont call me on my spanish spelling I know it sucks.
** Both places the girls seem to take turns and when their turn is up they are the first to greet a client hoping they get chosen sort of by default.
NEVER EVER do this.
Ask to see everyone:
Quiero mirar TODAS las chicas por favor.
phonetically: Kee-Ay-Ro Mee-Rarrr - TOH-DAS LASS Cheekas Por Favor
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Both places asked if I had been there before. As in Guad or anywhere else - CLAIM that you HAVE been there before.... It ensures good service in a way because they think you know what to expect and what exact service you should get.
Neither places had a person who could speak a lick of english, but dont let this dissuade you.. simply LEARN numbers so you can pay the appropriate amount and not get taken (which I doubt would happen at either place).
500 is pronounced Keen-Yent-Toes : Quienientos
550 is pronounced Keen-Yent-toes y Sin-Kwenta (Quienentos y cinquenta)
490 is pronounced kwatro-sin-yentos y noventa
Parking at High Class: Pretty easy, pass High Class on the right... take a right, take a right, try to find the street paralell to Lazaro Cardenas - parking is on the street clearly marked... seemed safe enough to park a car but I wouldnt leave it there for too long. The whole area is a maze of one way streets but parking was pretty easy).
One last note: If I could only get to one place Meditaraneo or High Class I would take the time trouble and pay the extra for the quality at HC.
Enjoy and play safe.
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Having visited strip clubs in Mexico City, I'd say just about anything anywhere is comparatively a great value for your time and money. Nice report -- thanks for taking the time to write it up.
[QUOTE=Trent100]Having visited Strip Clubs in Mexico City I would say that visiting Esteticas Masculinas in Mexico is the VERY BEST VALUE for your time and money.[/QUOTE]
the nice morning on saturday, i dedided to try out another of guadalajara's finest. high class.
i'm afraid the name is not well suited for this establishment. at 11:00 there were 3 ladies working. 4-5 range at most. a big boobed blondish thing (no thanks), a fat ass (no thanks), or a big boobed with the shape of a hot dog (best of the bunch).
in the room. which was ok but a little dingy at close look. nice and pleasant. note prices were 460 per half hour or 960 for the hour. i'm not the bang and go sort so despite poor selection. the hour is fine.
i got my chica in the room with drinks (coke) after a few minutes. she offered for the massage. and i offered for her to remove her clothes. no problem. revealing what i suspected. a nice set of boobs with a good sag set in, lots of tummy fat, to the point where her muff was sort of a hidden adventure to find. she was taller than the average gdl chica and had the look of a well seasoned mom. indeed. she has a 3 year old at home. and the scars and loose pussy to match.
i don't know why these joints off for the skinny table. there isn't enough room for one let alone two people up there and no where else to go. so to start i sat on the side with legs over while she leaned up against me inbetween my legs. she got the lotion and started to get to work on ole bob. then she squeezed a glob on her breasts and gave me a very nice boob job. i'll have to say the highlight of the day. quite nice. she had enough sag and boob to reach around no problem and stroke up and down without letting bob out of the sack.
a cbj which is never my fav. and then she climbed on top of the table, on top of me. this is where these joints could learn that massage tables are wide for a reason. a few minute ride on top. so i got to experience her loose opening. i had to roll her over to finish. there just was not enough friction with her on top to know there was a gal there.
ok. a bit of clean up. and we started to talk a bit. nice enough. she is 30. divorced a year ago. lives in one of the suburbs with her mom and daughter. blah blah. time ran up and she asked if i wanted more. i said it was time for me to clean up and go. we had a nice mutual shower session, got dressed and out i go.
i noticed the butt ugly mex blonde banging away at some local guy on the way down the hall. nice of them to put the little windows at my eye level.
next trip. i'll stick to the other side of the road. the girls at hc made [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] look like a beauty contest. now i know what it must be like for most of the local guys. sure. a few very hot chica's here in gdl but most like my hot dog with boobs.
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In despare, I looked in the phone book to see what I could find. Truth is I tried late at night and learned a powerful lession of the finer hotels in GDL. Security doesnt let such ladies in after 9 or so. Mine arrived very nicely dressed, quite professional. Including a note book to look like she was here on business. Security would not let her through even though we tried several angles at it. So. I gave her taxi fare and a kiss. Lesson learned.
A second attempt. This time in the late afternoon. I selected this agency mainly because it said (speak English). Which can be a challenge in GDL. Nice lady answered the phone. Told me the lady from last night was not available but she had a nice younger lady with bigger boobs. I said ok and offered to pick her up out front. She said no problemo as at this hour, she could waltz to my room. Sure enough. 25 minutes later as promised, a light knock. Indeed. Krystal with bright eyes and nice big boobs appeared.
She was quite nervious when she arrived. A bit of a sweat too. Her English was less than my Spanish so I decided to simply dive in. I decided a bit of mutual foreplay was the best way to get her past the nervious stages. At one point. I reached for Bob's hat which I put on myself. She fiddled with it a bit. Her eyes light up when I waived for her to climb on top. She likes it Mikey. Indeed. She enjoyed herself. Her start up tacky puss soon turned to slick excitement. I was pleased as she reached for the headboard, she turned her head aside and came. Good job.
We switched positions a few times, tried out the couch which she also liked. At intermission. We talked a bit. I was her first Gringo. Which did not surprise me. But what did surprise me was I was her first professional engagement too. Ooh la la. Explaining the nerviousness. At this time, she was calm, well past her start up nerves.
She is 20. Nice full figure for a young chicka. Glad I sampled now as in 5 years or after bambino. Mucho granda chicka. But very nice now. She lives with her parents and is the youngest of 3 sisters. Naughty little sister. Lives out in Zopopan. I would have loved to have talked to her more but.
I got her into the shower after round two. Nice. I don't think she had been in there with a man before. She said she had a BF. But the young punk obviously doesnt know how to treat a lady. I had her give me a shave while in the shower. Her eyes were wide open and she was nervious through the process. So so job at that but I just needed a touch up before dinner. I wanted her to remember her 1st loco gringo.
The other surprise. The sevice was great. 1500 for 1. 5 hours. Wow. I was braced for a gouge. Less for an hour but 1500 was my budget and I hate to rush. I'll do this service again. Just at an indecent hour.
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Jdbkk555, What hotel were you at? That's always worked for me, asking my date to dress appropriately and meeting her in the lobby or restaurant.
That would have pissed me off -- for all they knew she could have been your business associate or girlfriend. You were discrete. It's not like they' need to do that to preserve their "family image" by not having ****ty looking hookers running around the hotel.
" Note prices were 460 per half hour or 960 for the hour. I'm not the bang and go sort so despite poor selection. The hour is fine "
I have been to High Class several times. Why would an hour be over twice the 30 min rate? Sure you heard her correctly? Maybe 480 and 960?
But when faced with this kind of pricing ( normally 1 hour is exacxtly twice the half hour rate), I always go with the shorter period. After all, if you run out of time you can always just ask for another 30 min and still be at the same price. But at High Class I have usually stayed 40-60 minutes for the cheap rate and have never been called on time.
If you are SURE you want to pop twice during the session, then the hour is usually mandatory. Otherwise go short time . . .
Just my opinion and experience . . .
Enough of the weekend festival. Time for a good session with a nice local chica.
I thought I'the give the agency another spin. 1st one looked very tasty but was a no go due to security issues. 2nd was very nice. So here is a 3rd to cap off the weekend.
Sorry but I don't remember her name. She's 23, doesnt have a bf and a local GDL girl. I was a bit unsure about the whole blonde thing as most I've seen are not that great. She showed up at my hotel door on schedule. Tall. 5'7" or so out of her heels. Nice, clean and professional. This chica has been in the biz for a while as she was not nervious or anything.
I started to undress her while she did the call to mamasan. Cute little breasts with perky nipples, nice hips, a nice full muff covering a clean pussy. Once cleared of all the clothing clutter. And still on the phone. She bent over the bed, inviting me. She tossed out a set of condoms and some much appreciated lube. After a bit of digital exploration to get her engines going, I pushed in just as she hung up. I simply love a woman that is excited about rear entry. We stayed in that position for a few minutes and then turned her/us around so her hands were on the little love seat near the window. She seemed to enjoy this, arching her back, lifting her tail to shift position slightly. She moved over to hold the window while I slowly eased in and out of her. That was nice. Her face reflecting in the window while the sun was shining on GDL. I greatly appreciated her height as it helped position us for this nice exercise.
I moved to the couch, inviting her to climb on top. She did without more than a hand waive or two. We move to the bed to finish off. She seemed pleased to get the pole position first off. She liked to arch back to let me play with her a bit. On a soft bed, I often like to reach one hand behind her butt to provide a bit of support. As I reached behind her. She let out a nice soft. "yes". This was a good sign.
I asked her to stay put as I got up for a bit of a rinse off. I got a nice face towel wet with warm water. Brought it into the room and pressed it into her pink crotch. My experience is that women seem to find a warm wet towel pressed firmly onto them (not in) is quite exciting. All clean. I decided to see what she'the do and I moved down slowly kissing her fuff. She seemed to really like that. It filled my intermission requirements too.
That behind us. I moved up to spoon her for a bit. I understood her interest as she pressed her nice ass into me. I got up to get her tube of lube and she pretty much stayed in position as I applied it. Reached for another condom and I went into her with her on her side as I pilled up her top leg. This moved slowly after a few thrusts into a pseudo doggy position. At one point, I moved in a pillow as she seemed to really like rear entry with the right angle applied.
I was impressed. After round 2, she wanted to hold me tightly for a minute. We talked. She'the done a few gringo's before. And managed to cum 2 times in our afternoon session.
I'll be sure to put her on my repeat list. She's a horny girl.
Pic's attached. She had no problem with my request. They are all after round 2. Explaining the somewhat relaxed happy pussy look on her face. The one on the window. I wanted to re-create a bit of our bang with a view session to help you gents get the image.
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Hello,
I'm visiting Guadalajara during thanksgiving. I'm absolutely thrilled! I'm wondering if anyone here can tell me a bit about the hotels that I've heard about. From the way its was described, you drive up and park behind some sort of privacy barrier and the hotel employs chicas that you can pay to have visit you in your room. Is this true? If so, is it a safe place to stay an entire night? What are the ladies like? Any ideas about prices? Thanks so much!
D
I had to test drive GDL one more time this trip. The attached photo (can't remember her name) is from the same agency I referenced earlier. She spoke pretty good english so I got a better sense of things.
She had just signed up for this service that morning. I was her 1st customer. That's 2 of 3 this trip where I got to test drive a new lady. She was 23. Has a fresh baby at home just 9 months old. And another 3 years old. She definately had the physical signs of children on her with saggy little boobs and tummy. I appreciated her attitude though. She was definately into having sex though it was more like sex with a GF of 10 years. A bit of words and then bang, right into it. She didn't require/want much warm up. She did kiss which was a refreshing change.
This lady reported that she had recently split with her husband of 5 years. She didn't get into much detail other than to convey the image that local Mex men are not the most accomodating in the sack. She said her two orgasims with me was more than the entire time of her marriage combined. Offering next time to pay me instead of the other way round. She left with a smile on her face.
Loads of beautiful chicas, nothing less than a 6 or 7 all night. However very irritating waiters, too many of them and constantly bothering the customers. I agree with the comments about "Lady drinks". Just buy one or two and get the phone number. At 250 pesos a pop the lady drinks will drain your wallet too fast. Almost every chica is looking for a date outside of the club. I will try a different club on my next visit.
Thanks hardon. Good advice.
I plan to follow your suggestion regarding phone numbers. I would be interested to know if this method works well. It does seem that you could save money and have a more relaxed session.
Rickster
Let me point out that established clubs in the big cities in Mexico have the tendency to press the girls to do everything inside the house, since the money passes directly to the house, not in control of the girl and punishing them for seeing the customer off hours.
Hardon does not give any reference pricewise but judging from the looks of the club:
[url]http://www.candysgdl.com/home.html[/url]
it looks and surely is expensive, meaning that a FS might cost you somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 dlls up.
The girl is going to try to charge the same amount outside the premises with the difference that instead of her getting half the amount (or maybe less) that you'll spend on her in the club as a commision, she'll get the full amount straight to her pocket.
[QUOTE=Rickster]Thanks hardon. Good advice.
I plan to follow your suggestion regarding phone numbers. I would be interested to know if this method works well. It does seem that you could save money and have a more relaxed session.[/QUOTE]
Here's a good site with most of the major mens clubs in GDL listed.
[url]http://www.guiaroja.com.mx/mostrarcategoria.php?idcateg=7[/url]
Links to each club inside.
Happy shopping.
JD
Here are some pictures of 2 girls that work at some place called Massure (Not sure of it is spelled right). It is located on Lopez mateos close to the Minerva across from the Fiesta Americana. Orange and yellow building.
Nice photos Happy Hunting. How much do they charge?
JDBKK555, It looks more like major mens clubs that pay to advertise on the site -- Kaos, Lipstick, Junior's, Gina's are missing.
[QUOTE=Jdbkk555]Here's a good site with most of the major mens clubs in GDL listed.
[url]http://www.guiaroja.com.mx/mostrarcategoria.php?idcateg=7[/url]
Links to each club inside.
Happy shopping.
JD[/QUOTE]
I think they charge about 900-1000 pesos. Not too sure. We contracted those girls out to a Bachelor party. Its about 100 dlrs. And Gina's is not on that list because it closed down. Sorry to spread the bad news.
The escort company I've been using. Is something like 1000p an hour. I go for the 2 hours at 1500 so I've got time to relax and enjoy the lady. A bit of a tip on top of that. Last lady. She had such a good time she almost forgot to pick up the cash on her way out.
I've never tried traditional mens clubs. I hear the ladies are very hot. But spendy. If anyone has any success stories. Pass them on. I'd be interested. This route sounds inviting as you get to check out the merchandise before you buy. The only hard part is having to wait to the next day or so when the lady is off duty.
JD
Sex in the clubs in Guadalajara is very, very expensive. During one of my many visits to Guad, I was quoted in the neighborhood of 5,000 pesos for one sessionand I've heard of sessions being "offered" at 10,000 at times. Although the girls at the strip clubs are the hottest in the area, the prices are just plain stupid...and they will not negotiate.
These clubs are very savy, too, because they steer you away from the salida and toward the in-house services, all the while pushing expensive drink after expensive drink into your mouth, and sometimes even sending them to your table without ever even ordering one...and still trying to make you pay for it. It's a big racket and hardly worth the 10,000 pesos that you'll spend between the chica, drinks and tips. And if you agree to pick up the chica after hours, she will probably charge you a similar amount to what in-house costs and then possibly even make you wait in the club for her so you can buy her one more drink "for the road." And even if you make some sort of next day or after-hours arrangement with the chica, 99% of them won't show because they simply don't need the money; They make enough with the drinks and the privados that FS is just not neccessary.
Aside from the beach resorts, Guadalajara is the most expensive mongering venue in all of Mexico. Stick with the escorts and MPs or spend some serious time and money trying to get some sort of working relationship with a stripper and, after about a year of hard pressing and hard spending, you just may get a session under 2,000 pesos from her.
If you just love the strip club girls, then I recommend hitting the smaller towns in the area of Jalisco where, although the chicas are not as hot, they are a lot more apt to provide good service at a decent price.
[QUOTE=Jdbkk555]The escort company I've been using. Is something like 1000p an hour. I go for the 2 hours at 1500 so I've got time to relax and enjoy the lady. A bit of a tip on top of that. Last lady. She had such a good time she almost forgot to pick up the cash on her way out.
I've never tried traditional mens clubs. I hear the ladies are very hot. But spendy. If anyone has any success stories. Pass them on. I'd be interested. This route sounds inviting as you get to check out the merchandise before you buy. The only hard part is having to wait to the next day or so when the lady is off duty.
JD[/QUOTE]
Mill Just, It's been a couple of years since I've pulled anyone from a strip club in GDL, so my knowledge is dated. But there are dives, like some of the clubs on the road between the airport and downtown, where getting laid doesn't cost an arm and a leg. In terms of looks, the quality of the women on average leaves a little to be desired though.
A couple of years ago, 1000 or 1500 pesos would buy me a couple of hours with a reasonably good looking stripper from one of the better clubs (Kaos, Ramses) off site. While again, I haven't pulled any recently, I still encounter women pushing their phone numbers on me, because they realize the prices for on site service are ridiculous. They're usually not stunners though. I agree, the stunners make plenty from working in the club and maybe some extracurricular activities with guys that will pay an arm and a leg. So you're not going to get them to meet you the next day for $100. I also agree with your thoughts about the way some of the clubs push the drinks -- it really gets annoying.
Hello all. Just wanted to let you know that I am on the ground in GDL. I live here now. I've been here for about a month. I've got some great hook-ups that have nothing to do with the usual "haunts." Lot's of $50 stuff. Drop me a line if your going to be in town. I think I've found some MTY style chicas!
I discovered in a local newspaper in English called "The Buenos Aires Herald" various Classifieds for In/Call Out call. I responded to one (Anna, $100 USD). I called her up and discussed lunch plans—she stated that to accompany me to lunch would be $50 USD.
I walked from the Marriott Hotel to her apartment a few blocks away—lo and behold as I was entering her building a near 10 walks out and gets into a cab whilst receiving many catcalls from nearby construction workers. Obviously a working girl.
I buzzed Anna, and down came a 6 ½. Would have been cute, but had some messed up teeth. Where are we, London? ! ? ! I was disappointed but figured that "bird in hand. " and made clear my deal: We walk to my hotel, $300 Argentine Pesos (about $90 USD) for full service. She spoke very little English, but my Spanish is very good. She agreed.
We walked several blocks back to my Hotel (Marriott). She was discreetly dressed, so it was easy enough to walk through the lobby at 2 PM in the afternoon.
She started off with with DFK and started to take her clothes off while giving me more DFK. Next came a fair BBBJ. Sex was good as her twat was tight. She was agreeable to various positions. I never asked about rear entry. I got off pretty easily, she seemed to enjoy the sex—never watching the clock.
She hung out for a while—seemingly providing GFE, then led herself out after I paid. Overall, a good experience because it was hassle free, no negotiation, no pressure, no embarrassing walk through the lobby.
I went out later the same night on a Wednesday in the Retiro area. Lots of street action considering it was not a weekend. I hung out with a Street girl at a bar—she was about a 6 ½, but very friendly. She hung out with me for a couple of hours nursing a soft drink, then I wanted to go back to my room—I offered her $200 Pesos ($66 USD) for full sex. She said ok. Best damn blowjob I ever rec’d for the the money. Even rivals some of the dirty little ***** girlfriends I’ve had over the years. If you want really cheap sex—Buenos Aires is the place at the moment due to the economic conditions. I probably could have had some better looking girls—but opted for hassle free experience.
[QUOTE=Happy Hunting]Here are some pictures of 2 girls that work at some place called Massure (Not sure of it is spelled right). It is located on Lopez mateos close to the Minerva across from the Fiesta Americana. Orange and yellow building. [/QUOTE]The curly haired girl you posted is stunning. Looks like my ex. The place you mention is Monsieur. Two questions, how much did you pay, for how long, and what the hell is that girls name. Let me know and I will head right over!
Thanks,
Coahuila
[QUOTE=Coahuila]The curly haired girl you posted is stunning. Looks like my ex. The place you mention is Monsieur. Two questions, how much did you pay, for how long, and what the hell is that girls name. Let me know and I will head right over!
Thanks,
Coahuila[/QUOTE]I think her name was Carla. The prices were about 1000 pesos. We had them over for a batchlor party so the Price may be a bit off. Good luck.
[QUOTE=CrimsonKing]I discovered in a local newspaper in English called "The Buenos Aires Herald" various Classifieds for In/Call Out call. I responded to one (Anna, $100 USD). I called her up and discussed lunch plans—she stated that to accompany me to lunch would be $50 USD.
I walked from the Marriott Hotel to her apartment a few blocks away—lo and behold as I was entering her building a near 10 walks out and gets into a cab whilst receiving many catcalls from nearby construction workers. Obviously a working girl.
I buzzed Anna, and down came a 6 ½. Would have been cute, but had some messed up teeth. Where are we, London? ! ? ! I was disappointed but figured that "bird in hand. " and made clear my deal: We walk to my hotel, $300 Argentine Pesos (about $90 USD) for full service. She spoke very little English, but my Spanish is very good. She agreed.
We walked several blocks back to my Hotel (Marriott). She was discreetly dressed, so it was easy enough to walk through the lobby at 2 PM in the afternoon.
She started off with with DFK and started to take her clothes off while giving me more DFK. Next came a fair BBBJ. Sex was good as her twat was tight. She was agreeable to various positions. I never asked about rear entry. I got off pretty easily, she seemed to enjoy the sex—never watching the clock.
She hung out for a while—seemingly providing GFE, then led herself out after I paid. Overall, a good experience because it was hassle free, no negotiation, no pressure, no embarrassing walk through the lobby.
I went out later the same night on a Wednesday in the Retiro area. Lots of street action considering it was not a weekend. I hung out with a Street girl at a bar—she was about a 6 ½, but very friendly. She hung out with me for a couple of hours nursing a soft drink, then I wanted to go back to my room—I offered her $200 Pesos ($66 USD) for full sex. She said ok. Best damn blowjob I ever rec’d for the the money. Even rivals some of the dirty little ***** girlfriends I’ve had over the years. If you want really cheap sex—Buenos Aires is the place at the moment due to the economic conditions. I probably could have had some better looking girls—but opted for hassle free experience.[/QUOTE]Nice report but you are in the wrong country, Argentina is in the southern hemisphere.
I will investigate and let you know if I turn her up. She is really cute. Are you in Guad or were you just visiting?
Coahuila
A brief report on my week in GDL. I arrived late on Sunday. On arrival, made some calls and in half an hour or so, this rather tall lady shows up at my door. Though not really my type, I figure what the hell. Ball buster. She had this thing about yanking the crown jewels, cracking them together. My god, I walked gently the next day. She's on my do not try again list.
Monday night I figure. Try again. An acceptable 28 year old lady with a strong perfume shows up. After the previous night, I was a bit nervous about getting another nazi hooker. I'd guess this gal has been in the biz for a while, she was an expert at the slip the lid on CBJ. Ok overall. I started to get a bit frustrated. My last trip, this agency sent me young chica babe, one after another. Perhaps the well ran dry. I talked the the nice English speaking lady on the phone that is there till 8:00 most days. Told her of my disappointments.
Tuesday. A very nice, young, sexy lady appears at my door with a soft knock. It's 9:30 or so at night. She is nervious on arrival and says in pretty good English that the security guys are on to her. Sure enough. A minute later a knock at the door. Two security dudes with the thing in the ear tell me the young lady has to go to the lobby to register. I say ok. Ok. Back in the room, she tells me she didn't bring her papers. We decide to punt for the night. I give her taxi fare and off she goes with the guys in the suits. Later I read the little hotel book and sure enough. There is a Mexican law requiring all guests to register. Unfortunately, I'm in one of two hotels in the city that takes law enforcement seriously. I'm an unhappy camper.
Wednesday. I try the early shift, before dinner, thinking this will work better as the security nazi's are not as serious at that hour. The attached nice 19 YO gal named Krystal shows up at my door. I'm pretty sure she is one that visited me last trip. I was her initiation customer. Nice body, good spirit. The pics attached are a progression of her after clean up and on route out the door. She was a bit leary of her picture being taken but agreed in the end.
Thursday. I sit in the lobby for a bit to understand how the security nazi's operate. Sure enough. Virtually every young, nice looking chica that comes in solo is approached by the guys in the suits. The truck show across the street must have brought out tight security. This might explain why my ok and a bit older Sunday/Monday get past just fine and Tue got bounced. I called in and settled for miss Monday again figuring I'd rather be a sure thing and a bit disappointed than left holding the bag alone. She showed up, same strong perfume. We got to chat a bit, she turned out nicer than my impression from early in the week. She's anxious to get down to business and is becoming wet to the touch (a contrast to the dry well of Monday). Turns out to be a good ride partner afterall. I simply let her take charge. She came 3-4 times. She was a wealth of information. Told me about which are the difficult hotels for security and which are easy (obviously she has experience). Gives me the run down on the city's escort scene.
Friday. I pre-arranged an appetizer of miss Krystal. Apparently she still lives at home with mom/dad and doesnt work after 8:00. Damn hot chick. I sat her on the little sofa in the room where we tried several positions. I wanted to see how much she enjoyed my company. I positioned her onto the floor to ceiling windows to enjoy the view a bit while I test her back door. I like this young lady. Firm and despite being a fresh 19, knows how to enjoy herself and please a man. As I'm leaving noonish tomorrow, perhaps I'll give one last call for a last sample of this fine lady.
Happy hunting
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I had time to kill today, Saturday so I decided to enjoy another morning of luxury. I called up my agency lady. She gave me the run down. There seem to be a different selection during the day than at night. Young ones in the day. I offered to take a young 20 yo blonde. Unfortunately, she showed up in the lobby with way too obvious "call me a hooker" clothing and was snagged by the nazi security team right away. I sat near by to watch the proceedings. As she moved from one lobby area to another. The security lady assigned to her would simply move and stand 15ft from her. A half an hour later, the game plan changed. Fortunately for me. My favorite chica Krystal was also in the lobby. I'm not sure why exactly, perhaps the back up plan? Anyway, just as the two ladies started to March off, I headed for the lift to my room. I was not sure if I was to be disapointed (again) or not. Fortunately, a very sexy Krystal was standing there on the other side of a knock. She came in and told me that the blonde had too much security problems and asked if she was ok. Of course she was ok. So we banged and licked for a couple of hours till I'm ready for the long flight home.
Miss Krystal was already moist to the touch, signaling that she must enjoy herself in my company. This time, I noticed she was freely stroking herself from underneith when I was behind her. I just hope this little sexy young chica remains somewhat amature in her serivce. Some day she'll make an outstanding wife.
I suspect the secret to how Krystal is successful getting past the nazi guards is because she drives her own car to the hotel and uses the garage lift to enter. This must not trigger the same security reaction when blonde bomb shell steps out of a taxi or worse yet walks in from the street.
Overall. This week has been a mixed week. One absolute dud. I tried to explain a dead fish to one of the ladies and she laughed. One unfortunate security interruption event (too bad as she looked hot), 2 nights with a nice but not exactly hot material 28 yo, and 3 rounds with Krystal. I suppose the 3 solid rounds with miss K really boosts the average up, but compared to my last visit, still a bit of a let down. Perhaps next time I'll stay at the Camino Real which is reported much easier on the security scene.
Till next time. Ciao and happy hunting.
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Ok So one thing about strip clubs in GDL, they are a complete waste of money. There are definitely some girls there that are ready for some action however the price is usually not worth it. One exception to this is a club called boom boom. I went in this place one time and there were absolute monsters on stage. Roaches all over and to be honest I just could not wait to leave. Out of all the girls there only one was hot. I few days ago the story was completely different. I was convinced buy a group of friends to give it another shot because you can spend well over 8 hrs there for less than 100 dlrs. I took the bait and I am glad I did.
When I walked it I was shocked to find that there were about 15 Hot girls working. Beers were about 2 dlrs and to buy a girl a drink it was only about 6 dlrs. That is about how much a regular drink costs in the states so I was happy. If you don’t know how it works in Mexico lady drinks can be as much as 30 dlrs. I was there with a few friends and there wasn’t a time where there was less than 2 hot ladies at the table. So here are the prices my friend got a BJ in the back for 150 pesos if you want full service it is about 65 dlrs. The bill came at the end of the night and I thought the guy dropped a phonebook on the table. The bill wasn’t even 80 dlrs each. This night in the states would have easily cost us 2, 500 dlrs. We tipped the waiter 20 and I thought he wanted to blow us. The trick is to keep these guys happy and they will take good care of you. He kept the linebackers away and only brought the girls we asked for to the table. In short the Boom Boom was great one time and terible one time but it is cheap and you can have some fun without breaking the bank.
You should do what I usually do when out of my hometown of Morelia and staying at a nice hotel. I keep a mongering room at a decent motel de paso so that I can take care of all my "needs" at the motel and keep a decent reputation at my swankier hotel. This way, there are no embarrassing security problems and I'm assured to get any chica I like with absolutely no hassle. Sometimes, when staying at a nice hotel, the dreaded "mongering death walk" to the lobby to pick up a chica or vouch for her can be the biggest pain in the ass, but for a 200 peso motel de paso, all that can be avoided.
Have Fun,
Mill
[QUOTE=Jdbkk555]I had time to kill today, Saturday so I decided to enjoy another morning of luxury. I called up my agency lady. She gave me the run down. There seem to be a different selection during the day than at night. Young ones in the day. I offered to take a young 20 yo blonde. Unfortunately, she showed up in the lobby with way too obvious "call me a hooker" clothing and was snagged by the nazi security team right away. I sat near by to watch the proceedings. As she moved from one lobby area to another. The security lady assigned to her would simply move and stand 15ft from her. A half an hour later, the game plan changed. Fortunately for me. My favorite chica Krystal was also in the lobby. I'm not sure why exactly, perhaps the back up plan? Anyway, just as the two ladies started to March off, I headed for the lift to my room. I was not sure if I was to be disapointed (again) or not. Fortunately, a very sexy Krystal was standing there on the other side of a knock. She came in and told me that the blonde had too much security problems and asked if she was ok. Of course she was ok. So we banged and licked for a couple of hours till I'm ready for the long flight home.
Miss Krystal was already moist to the touch, signaling that she must enjoy herself in my company. This time, I noticed she was freely stroking herself from underneith when I was behind her. I just hope this little sexy young chica remains somewhat amature in her serivce. Some day she'll make an outstanding wife.
I suspect the secret to how Krystal is successful getting past the nazi guards is because she drives her own car to the hotel and uses the garage lift to enter. This must not trigger the same security reaction when blonde bomb shell steps out of a taxi or worse yet walks in from the street.
Overall. This week has been a mixed week. One absolute dud. I tried to explain a dead fish to one of the ladies and she laughed. One unfortunate security interruption event (too bad as she looked hot), 2 nights with a nice but not exactly hot material 28 yo, and 3 rounds with Krystal. I suppose the 3 solid rounds with miss K really boosts the average up, but compared to my last visit, still a bit of a let down. Perhaps next time I'll stay at the Camino Real which is reported much easier on the security scene.
Till next time. Ciao and happy hunting.
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Went out mongering on a Sunday evening in el Centro in Guadalajara. It was Sunday night about 8 PM--traffic was a nightmare in el Centro, so I was already in a bad mood. I went to several hotels (Hotel Paris, Hotel Hidalgo and The Orange Wall). All three had terrible selection--nothing better than a 4 or a 5--fat and ugly. Going price was 250 pesos for sex--room paid by the *****. I passed on all offers. One of the *****s suggested that I come during the day for a different selection, starting at 10 AM. I'll let you know how it goes.
i was just there on saturday. selection was shitty as well, but i banged some chick from puebla at hotel hidalgo.
here are some notes i have picked up over the last few months (i live here)
hotel hidalgo: sometimes there are some ok hotties during the day. if you like indias.
hotel paris: i have found one decent one there in the evening, around 8 pm. here name was sandra (alejandra) and she was from el salto. too much of a stomach but the rest was great for $180 pesos.
hotel independencia: never seen anything worthwhile.
hotel vigo: never seen anything worthwhile, although one oaxacan girl was kind of cute but she looked ****d.
orange wall: never seen anything worth while, until this last saturday, when i saw two girls outside that looked doable... i meant to go back and investigate better, but forgot.
hotel ? (lisboa maybe) around the corner from orange wall:
always bitches there, never anything useful.
if you want some hot ass girls from cheap, try the calle 52, between alvaro obregon and 12 de julio. starting at 8 or 9 pm there are absolutely smoking girls in a little house which charge you $350 pesos per trip. the best kept secret in guad.
cheers,
coahuila
I picked up the local sports newspaper “Esto,” from Guadalajara which has two full pages of ads for working girls. I called Julieta (her ad stated in Spanish, cute university girl, smart with good attitude, little and thin, a great lover). She would not come to my house, only hotels—so I passed.
Next, I called Jessica (her ad stated 19 years old, promotion 700 pesos for 1 hour). On the phone she stated 700 pesos for 1 hour, 900 pesos for 90 minutes. I asked her to come over to my house at 3 PM on a Wednesday afternoon. She arrived a little late. She was at best 6 because she was not horribly fat. Her complexion was nice, but she was just FUGLY. She insisted I pay her 900 pesos up front. And the price was actually 900 pesos for 60 minutes (not the 700 in the ad, and that we agreed to on the phone). I’m in my late 30’s and in good physical condition – I could not maintain an erection—one never even started. When we started to undress she started with a fake high pitched moan. It was like needles in my ears and the beginning of the end. No GFE whatsoever. No kissing. This was horrible. Her looks did not help. She tried jacking me off, and CBJ to no avail. I gave up and told her I’m used to more attractive girls and led her out. Lesson learned. If she is not up to your standards, dismiss her. Make that clear before she arrives.
I have read with interest reports regarding my home city. I have lived here for over six years now. It is only fair that I share some of the knowledge that I have accumulated. First of all, learn a little Spanish. A very few words will take you a long way. Second of all, if you know no Spanish (and even if you do) be respectful and polite. The Table Dance Clubs that advertise on billboards, etc. are to be avoided. They are overpriced rip off joints. Most of the girls there claim to be from other countries, they feel that this makes them more exotic and therefore they can charge outrageous prices. The truth is that 90% of them are Mexicanas, beautiful none the less.
Stay away from Juniors. He employs more guys than girls. Unless you are gay or enjoy being cheated, avoid this place and any others where they employ as many "suits" as girls. There are at LEAST 50 table dance bars in the area.
Only five or so have ever gotten any press here. Ask your cab driver to take you someplace where the Mexicans go. If you are driving, just keep your eyes open. This goes for esteticas masculino as well. There are probably even more of these. Quality is always a consideration, if you don't see one you like, walk away. Anything over 1000 pesos is a waste of money.
The area around the Plaza del Sol shopping mall is famous for transvestites. Late in the evening, that is. Stay away unless you are so inclined.
There are many medium sized bar/nightclubs where non-pro girls can be met.
Ask your cabbie and keep you eyes open. Also, don't bother going before 10PM, they stay open until 3-4AM. You will be suprised at how many speak English, even if only on a limited basis. Ask them to dance, then offer to buy them a drink. You will seldom be turned down.
Good luck and have fun!!
Guadalajara Don
Welcome to ISG. Your knowledge and expertise are most valued here amigo.
Regarding your statement "There are many medium sized bar/nightclubs where non-pro girls can be met." it would be much appreciated if you could be a little more specific.
As you can see from recent Guadalajara posts there are numerous places that are not so good.
I will be in the Guadalajara area during January and February and as a newbee to that city any additional information would be great.
I am a gringo that has been living in Puerto Vallarta for several years. Link most gringos with a dream to Move to PV , I just could not take the heat in the summer any more.
I lived in GDL before and the climate was way more tolerable , except for the floods that seem to happen on summer nights. The other horrible thing was the NOISE. I mean traffic, music, you name it. It takes a lot of getting used to.
GDL is full of fun gals to "do". Perhaps I can post some adventures here and if any of you are on your way down, and want to look me up, that just may work out.
If there are any spots you might like me to check out the current scene I may be able to do that as well. Not that I want to spend frivolously mind you, so lets keep it to a minimum, or I suppose you could cover my expenses!
Will be in touch!
Hola Loco. I have been told on numerous occasions that GDL has some of the prettiest "gueritas" in all of mexico. I will be going down within the next month. Please keep in touch. Via PM
ok, i live close to guad and have lived here for 4 years. i am going to give you a quick breakdown of the scene. and will follow this up in a few weeks with more detail.
there are several different ways to get sex in guadalajara.
1. streets and motels:
there are several areas where there are some sws and many situated in the doors of shitty hotels waiting for customers. these are the lowest grade of girls, although the quality really varies. hotties are either really new, really druggged up, or too young to work anywhere else. the hotels are located in the area around the san juan de dios market, on the streets of hidalgo, gigantes, 5 de mayo and independencia to name a few. some hotels have more action during the day, others at night, some all the time. girls range from 3. 8, though most are below 6. the average going cost is about $200 pesos ($19 usd) for about 20 minutes hotel included. this should be fully nude, although a hottie may receive up to $300 pesos ($28 usd) for full service nude. don't expect anything over half an hour, unless you are a good negotiator. another area with higher quality chicas are a few houses on the streets 50, 52, 54, near where they intersect with gigantes or with obregon. there you will find better quality chicas for about $350 pesos for full service or $450 pesos for full service nude. careful there are a lot of tvs in this area, but one of the houses (on 52, between gigantes and 12 de octubre) have numerous chicks between 20 and 24 that look like they are 16. i would like to point out this area is kind of ghetto, and cops will try to bribe you out of money, or at least they do it to the mexicans.
2. esteticas/ casas de citas:
esteticas are male massage parlors. some of them are actually just houses meant for fucking, and thus referred to as casas de citas. in guadalajara, the difference is very blurry, and they are basically the same thing. the prices vary, from $250 pesos ($23 usd) to $1, 300 pesos ($120 usd). the difference is as you go up in price, the installations get better, and the girls get skinnier and above all whiter. the service is apparently pretty good in all of them if you pick the right girls. of course, some aren't great. there are about 50 of these in guad, and i will post a list with addresses or phone numbers in the future. in general, service includes a massage, a bj and 1 sex act. extra acts or anal can be extra, or included if the girl likes you. these esteticas are all over town, so when i post the list you can find the closest to where you are. some of them are high class, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], monsieur, aristos, alexander, alcala, mediteraneo, luigi's, gaby's, arlette's, montecristo, cassanova, but those are just a few of many. one thing important to remember when walking into one of these, make sure to get the terms of the service at the beginning. then, make sure they show you all the girls. the amount can vary from 2 to 20. when you see them all make your pick. if you don't like any of them, bail. they are used to it.
3. escorts:
the escort business in guad is huge, but there is a lot of bullshit to be weeded through. most escort agencies will anounce themselves in the web ([url]www.seductoras.com. mx[/url], [url]www.vivastreet.com. mx[/url], [url]www.divas.com. mx[/url]) among others, in newspapers (such as esto) or on cards that they pass out at traffic lights. the common rip off is that they will send you some chick that is totally different than what you expected, over priced, and that will give you a bad service. however, there are good agencies and also independents that i will post in the future. in general, escorts of decent appearance will charge between $700 pesos ($65 usd) and $1000 ($90 usd) per hour. some will come to your home and office, all will come to a hotel. the price may or may not include the taxi to get there. it is common they will ask you for up to $200 pesos extra for the taxi. never give them more than that. if the girl that shows up is not what you want, send her back, and don't give her anything more than the taxi, and that only if you are feeling generous. most of the agencies are bullshit, but there are some that send good material. futhermore, there are some people that act as agencies for independents that reliably send good material. those numbers coming soon.
4. strip clubs:
in strip clubs in guadalajara the girls may or may not be prostitutes. i would venture a guess that 90% are, depending on the price. surprisingly, considering the quality of girls, strip clubs can be pretty expensive. this is because you have to pay the girls and the club to fuck them. the cheapest i have heard of is around $600 pesos ($55 usd) for fs in the boom boom to over $3000 pesos ($280 usd) in some of the other clubs. personally, i stay away from these places, unless i am looking to get phone numbers for girls to meet up later outside on their own. that being said, some people have fun at them. apparently strip clubs that can have good deals are titanic blue, nuevo galeon, lipstick, boom boom, teatro lirico. some of them are ghetto, but that is good for price. clubs apparently to stay away from are kaos, golden club, candi's, and several others. they are too expensive for what you get. at titanic blue you can apparently get action inviting a girl upstairs when you buy her a bucket of beer (approx. $40 usd). at least you will get to know her name and her pussy.
ok, that's it for now. i promise i will post in the future with more details. long live international sex guide. thank you for being free and informative!
cheers,
coahuila
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Supposedly, there is no mongering around here. I have lived here for a year and even the locals tell me that. Well, it is not true... you just have to know the tricks. Apparently there are several cantinas (bars which have chicks that will fuck for $$$ on the weekends). At this point I have found the following:
Jocotepec - at least 1
Ajijic - at least 1
San Antonio - 0
Riberas del Pilar - 2
Chapala - 3
areas within 15 min of Chapala - 3
I have not really tried out any of these but will this week. If anyone is lakeside and interested please post and I will give more details.
Cheers,
Coahuila
so here goes again. btw this is a reminder that everyone should copy long reports to the clipboard. i did, luckily.
here goes.
ok, i live close to guad and have lived here for 4 years. i am going to give you a quick breakdown of the scene. and will follow this up in a few weeks with more detail.
there are several different ways to get sex in guadalajara.
1. streets and motels:
there are several areas where there are some sws and many situated in the doors of shitty hotels waiting for customers. these are the lowest grade of girls, although the quality really varies. hotties are either really new, really druggged up, or too young to work anywhere else. the hotels are located in the area around the san juan de dios market, on the streets of hidalgo, gigantes, 5 de mayo and independencia to name a few. some hotels have more action during the day, others at night, some all the time. girls range from 3. 8, though most are below 6. the average going cost is about $200 pesos ($19 usd) for about 20 minutes hotel included. this should be fully nude, although a hottie may receive up to $300 pesos ($28 usd) for full service nude. don't expect anything over half an hour, unless you are a good negotiator. another area with higher quality chicas are a few houses on the streets 50, 52, 54, near where they intersect with gigantes or with obregon. there you will find better quality chicas for about $350 pesos for full service or $450 pesos for full service nude. careful there are a lot of tvs in this area, but one of the houses (on 52, between gigantes and 12 de octubre) have numerous chicks between 20 and 24 that look like they are 16. i would like to point out this area is kind of ghetto, and cops will try to bribe you out of money, or at least they do it to the mexicans.
2. esteticas/ casas de citas:
esteticas are male massage parlors. some of them are actually just houses meant for fucking, and thus referred to as casas de citas. in guadalajara, the difference is very blurry, and they are basically the same thing. the prices vary, from $250 pesos ($23 usd) to $1, 300 pesos ($120 usd). the difference is as you go up in price, the installations get better, and the girls get skinnier and above all whiter. the service is apparently pretty good in all of them if you pick the right girls. of course, some aren't great. there are about 50 of these in guad, and i will post a list with addresses or phone numbers in the future. in general, service includes a massage, a bj and 1 sex act. extra acts or anal can be extra, or included if the girl likes you. these esteticas are all over town, so when i post the list you can find the closest to where you are. some of them are high class, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], monsieur, aristos, alexander, alcala, mediteraneo, luigi's, gaby's, arlette's, montecristo, cassanova, but those are just a few of many. one thing important to remember when walking into one of these, make sure to get the terms of the service at the beginning. then, make sure they show you all the girls. the amount can vary from 2 to 20. when you see them all make your pick. if you don't like any of them, bail. they are used to it.
3. escorts:
the escort business in guad is huge, but there is a lot of bullshit to be weeded through. most escort agencies will anounce themselves in the web ([url]www.seductoras.com. mx[/url], [url]www.vivastreet.com. mx[/url], [url]www.divas.com. mx[/url]) among others, in newspapers (such as esto) or on cards that they pass out at traffic lights. the common rip off is that they will send you some chick that is totally different than what you expected, over priced, and that will give you a bad service. however, there are good agencies and also independents that i will post in the future. in general, escorts of decent appearance will charge between $700 pesos ($65 usd) and $1000 ($90 usd) per hour. some will come to your home and office, all will come to a hotel. the price may or may not include the taxi to get there. it is common they will ask you for up to $200 pesos extra for the taxi. never give them more than that. if the girl that shows up is not what you want, send her back, and don't give her anything more than the taxi, and that only if you are feeling generous. most of the agencies are bullshit, but there are some that send good material. futhermore, there are some people that act as agencies for independents that reliably send good material. those numbers coming soon.
4. strip clubs:
in strip clubs in guadalajara the girls may or may not be prostitutes. i would venture a guess that 90% are, depending on the price. surprisingly, considering the quality of girls, strip clubs can be pretty expensive. this is because you have to pay the girls and the club to fuck them. the cheapest i have heard of is around $600 pesos ($55 usd) for fs in the boom boom to over $3000 pesos ($280 usd) in some of the other clubs. personally, i stay away from these places, unless i am looking to get phone numbers for girls to meet up later outside on their own. that being said, some people have fun at them. apparently strip clubs that can have good deals are titanic blue, nuevo galeon, lipstick, boom boom, teatro lirico. some of them are ghetto, but that is good for price. clubs apparently to stay away from are kaos, golden club, candi's, and several others. they are too expensive for what you get. at titanic blue you can apparently get action inviting a girl upstairs when you buy her a bucket of beer (approx. $40 usd). at least you will get to know her name and her pussy.
ok, that's it for now. i promise i will post in the future with more details. long live international sex guide. thank you for being free and informative!
cheers,
coahuila
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I enjoyed your posts Coahuila.
I've been lakeside for the past week, and am around for a few more.
The lake is quite different from my last visit here (8 years ago) and I've been trying to follow your posts, poke around and find some pooning spots.
Because its Christmas, lots of things seem to be closed. I did find David's Bar (1/2 way between Ajijic and Chapala) to have a few ladies (5-ish), but the language is a barrier. Now that Christmas is out of the way, I'm hopeful that a few more cantina's will open up (and you'll share some more of your valuable experience).
Perhaps you've be interested in meeting up for a beer and trading notes?
Cheers,
Mr. North
Nice report Coahuila -- looking forward to your follow ups.
I wouldn't mind meeting up with you. Not sure how we can do it though, I can't post email addys. Maybe phone numbers? Mine is a cell [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]. Please be discreet when calling though. Ask for Chris and say it is regarding the forum.
Saludos,
Coahuila
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OK, here is what I know.
Starting from the east:
Jocotepec:
Apparently there are two spots for mongering. Probably a few more, but I don't know them yet.
1. Chivis Bar - This place is a typical mexican pueblo strip club. I have been there two times, and there is nothing worth speaking about. 4 - 8 girls, fat and ugly, that will fuck for between $20 and $40 USD. Supposedly there are hotter chicks on Saturday, but I have not been. I doubt that it is worth it.
2. Supposedly there is a second bar on the highway that goes from Jiquilpan to Guadalajara, right in Jocotepec. I have looked for it but I have not found it. Didn't look too hard. Supposedly there is at least one girl about 35 yo that is worth the trip. If you find it let me know.
San Juan Cosala:
This place used to have strip clubs, but apparently they were all closed down. One thing is for sure, it has nice girls, especially if you like indias. Still looking for some mongering around there.
Ajijic:
I know of one place, that definitely has hookers, but they are not too hot. I have seen a hot girl or two out front, but all the times I have gone in (a total of three) they have not been there. These girls will definitely fuck for money. However, I think you have to be lucky or horny to find something useful there. This place is about half way between Ajijic and San Juan Cosala, heading west. You will pass la Canacinta, La Cristina, and then it will be on the north side of the highway next to a big tree. It isn't always open, but when it is it's usually open between 6 PM - 1 AM mas o menos.
There are several "billardes" (pool halls) in the western part of Ajijic, the area know as Seis Izquinas, that may have working girls. Check it out... I have once, but didn't see much worth it.
San Antonio:
Nothing of interest except for some possible independents. I am working on getting in contact with those and will post if I do.
Riberas del Pilar:
There are two bars...
1. David's Sport's Bar, located halfway between Chapala and Ajijic, on the northern side. Normally 5 girls work there. 2 are fat and ugly. 1 is moderate and ugly. 1 is fat but with a cute face. The last 1 is cute and skinny, if you like indian girls. The price apparently is $20 USD to take them away from the bar, and the rest you negotiate with the girl. Shouldn't be more than $20 USD for FS. Haven't scored with the hot one yet (wouldn't with the rest) but I will let you know.
2. Bar Kru, located a bit closer to Ajijic on the southern side, apparently has working girls sometimes. That's all I know at this point, I have never gone in.
Chapala:
Chapala may have a few options, not sure how many. Here are a few to check.
1. Bar Lobos, located on the same street as the one you come in from from Ajijic, just past the traffic light. Supposedly there are girls that will "hook" if they like you on Saturdays and Fridays. I went today and didn't see shit. Not sure how good this is.
2. Bar Roy's, just across from Lobos, seemed to have two ugly light skinned hookers on a thursday some weeks ago. Haven't been since. Not sure if it is good or not.
3. Bar Checos, on the main strip in Chapala about halfway on the west side, definitely has some working girls some nights. Definitely not dependable, and only once did I see a girl I would actually do, even drunk.
4. Cañejos, or something like that. No idea where it is or what's up. Apparently it has girls sometimes. But I have neither seen it nor been able to verify.
5. There are two other Cantinas, Gato 13 and another one that I forget the name, which probably have some ugly girls working sometimes. However, I have not verified it.
In final, there are three bars where you will definitely find working girls in Lakeside. Those are Chivis in Jocotepec, the nameless ones west of Ajijic, and the David's Sports Bar (known to the locals as La Puerta Negra) in Riberas Del Pilar. I have only seen one girl in the three of them that I would fuck without them paying me.
Saludos,
Coahuila
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[quote=coahuila]what was said about guadalajara is not true. you just have to know the scene.
please see my new post about guad in the guad forum.
thanks,
coahuila
ps - i just had sex with two girls that "looked like" 15 years old in guad yesterday for $35 usd. i won't say their real ages but you get the point.
cheers![/quote]i'm telling you the truth, i've lived in gdl for some years therefore i know the scene quite well and due a hypocrital double moral attitude of the guadalajaran population it's the worst city i have ever seen to monger in north america which is too bad because the tapatias are some of the most beautiful women i've seen in mexico (also the girl's trend is to judge you according to how much worthy are you in front of their eye$$$$$)
for example recently the provider of working girls for politicians, businessmen and drug dealers known as the "cow" (la vaca) was caught alongside with the "procurador" (one of the most radical "puritanos" of the political party pan who attacks prostitution in a constant basis) in a sex party with middle school girls (chicas de secundaria in spanish) the avarage age of middle school chicks in mexico is from 12 to 15 years old.
guadalajara cannot match monterrey in strip clubs (there are more than 60 tabla dances there according to the "ayuntamiento") and in some clubs you can have full service with porn-star looking girls for 20 to 30 usd and in the high end clubs (amnesia, premier, prestige, obsession) prices are ridiculous cheap compared with the outrageous prices i saw in the high end clubs in guadalajara such as the men's club or the golden club ....also the quantity and quality of girls in monterrey's strip clubs are so much better. not even the candys ( a middle end club in gdl ) can match a mty or df club.... in mexico city the solid gold is a dream cum true. in gdl strip clubs not all girls are prostitutes so you only get horny inside the club but you cannot have sex with them and that really sucks in mty for instance all table dances are full service clubs. the kaos, the lipsticks, the ramses, the juniors they all were places to avoid in gdl as far i can remember.
and regarding escorts guadalajara simply cannot match mexico city.... mexico city along montreal are two best escorts spots in north america.
in guadalajara the majority of the agencies are bait and switch (gato por liebre) the royal prestigue, the new york escort, modelos galilea etc etc .... the one that has (sometimes) good girls was the royal prestige along with javier (the name of his agency was "rubias and morenas" the time i was there) even that the monterrey escort escene is not as big as the df, monterrey has better escort options than gdl.... bomboncitas regias or misses (incall and outcall services) absolutly kick ass and you will receive no bait and switch or get scammed when ordering a girl and that's type of service that i could find in guadalajara's agencies. in gdl there's a common phrase of the agencies owners: "caliente mija no te regresa", which means something like:" if he's horny he will not return you" and based on that statament some providers promises hot women and send instead ugly ones the type of girls that should pay customers in order to be fucked by them.
in gdl if you want to find decent escort the best option is to check the divas pagas of mexico city and see which girls are currently available in guanatos.
regarding incalls in guadalajara there was the jet set (i think it was closed by those mochos) the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], the luigi's, the nefertiti (the place it's closed now i think) and at last but not least the eduards. in those guadalajaran esteticas the quality of the girls were from irregular to bad, the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] had the most decent looking girls but you couldn't find any knock out either. in monterrey there are the: marcella (30-50 usd for full service with a hot [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]), the faraonas, the astrid, the misses (the best in incalls in mty, knock out's and bomb shells type girls available there), the romanos, the signore, the florecitas, the modelos monterrey etc, etc, in mexico city there are the extreme sport spa, the first shout with high quality girls at good prices.........
the esteticas in gdl cannot match the saunas in scotland or the quality of the massage parlors in sao paulo, because in gdl sadly no one cares about the sexual needs of the men there.
so basically guadalajara has it all to be a major monger paradise in mexico (very beautiful girls, nice weather... excluding the floods) but sadly due a hypocrital double moral behavior and pseudo puritanism present in the guadalajaran population the local sex market it's very poor and it's really dissapointing to experimented mongers so yes is a wasteland when it comes to the sex market.
and for non pros in gdl (tapatias) the best aphrodisiac that makes them instantly horny is money, for example a lot of them seem to think that your car is an extension of your penis, so better the car you have better the quality of girls you can enjoy, so they will judge you based on your car, the type of clothes you wear, how much money you have in your bank accounts, where do you live, who's your family, what career do you have etc, etc, etc and for some unknown reason inside mexico the materialism trend presented in the guadalaran girls is the highest i ever seen within the country.
one day i did an experiment with a couple of chicks there, they never ever spoke to me (i'm not ugly neither uneducated) they never ever talked to me not even a "buenos dias". it's important to note that i was wearing casual clothes nothing fancy the majority of the times that i saw them, but someday i was wearing a fancy suit (due a work presentation) and i was driving an audi of a friend, and .............oh my gosh!!! it was like magic, when those girls that never said "hi" or "good morning" saw me, they almost run to where i was and said "hi" and they tried to get inside the car and kissed me in the chicks..... then i thought what the fuck?? they never ever talked to me in the past and now because i have those clothes and this fancy car they are now here talking to me, offering themselves spreading theirs legs and getting wet at the same time.
if you think that guadalajara is a monger paradise go to mexico city, monterrey (inside mexico) or to montreal, rio de janairo, sao paulo, buenos aires, caracas, bogota, scotland, germany (fkk clubs), london, prague, denmark, madrid, barcelona or thailand just to mencion a few more options to see what a true sex paradise looks like. feel free to ask me for information regarding these places (i speak spanish).
Coahuila. You are a rock star. Your contributions to this forum are truly appreciated.
Things Lakeside over the X-mas holidays have been very slowwww.a few years ago I was able to hook up with a visiting tourist and a local, while caging some of the local bars, but this year it seems very slow and dry. So I've been venturing out in search of other pursuits.
Despite the numerous warnings about Juniors, I ventured down from the lake to check it out on a Thursday. When I walked in around 11pm, I was customer #1, but decided to have a beer anyway. There were around 8 girls, but a few tables of locals started drifting in. The dancers on the stage started shortly after my arrival. I decided to pay for my beers as I drank (and avoid any credit card hassles), but even then, the waiter tried to trick me into demanding money for beers that I paid for much earlier. As mentioned by others, don't expect change from anything you give out. Otherwise, I wasn't really hassled by the waiters, they mostly left me alone, and the ratio of M/W was fine, despite earlier posts on the contrary.
I eyeballed a very slim and tight 20-something (7-ish), and she joined me for a beer. She didn't stop grinding me the whole time, flipping over and rubbing against me front and back. Language was a barrier, but we had a few laughs. I sent her away so that I could enjoy a cigar and try and let my eyes see what other talent was available. The answer being not much.
Later, I called her back and the waiter got involved and led us to a room behind the back wall. Their first offer was 1500 for 1/2 hour with room. I offered 1800 for the hour, with 2 beers thrown in. The waiter wouldn't come down from 2400, so I walked. I was quiet surprised that the waiter didn't come back to me and try and counter-offer, while I was finishing my beer to leave. I did get the girls' digits, so there could be some fun times ahead.
Last night I decided to venture to Chivas, as described by Coahuila. In a word. Its rough. 10 women, but the majority have obviously hit every branch on the way down their fall off the ugly tree. Surprisingly, everyone in the place left me along to enjoy my cigar. After I'd had a few beers, one girl (who appeared to be a 5-ish), caught my eye, but she took a while to leave a table full of locals. Nice enough girl, and we went to her room beside the bar. 500. She was a bit mechanical at first, but after I made her cum, she let her hair down and gave a passible GFE.
I'll stop by the Music Box at 10 pm on Sunday (30th) night to have a beer, so if you're in the neighborhood Coahuila, stop by and I'll buy you a cold one. I'll be the only gringo in the place. And yes, my OTHER middle name is discretion.
Cheers,
Mr. North
I'm about to make my first mongering visit to GDL, and, in preparation, I've been doing some work beyond reading this thread. I found the following link:
[url]http://guadalajara.vivastreet.com.mx/escorts-masajistas+guadalajara-y-area-met[/url]
which appears to be similar to Craigs List. (Note: it works for all over Mexico, and for a range of products and services, but the link I've posted is specifically for erotic ads for GDL). There SEEM to be a lot of independent girls advertising on the site. I'm sure that switch and bait is an issue, but has anyone had experience with the site? I would say that the site is only useful if you're pretty conversant in Spanish. On the other hand, there are ladies advertising in it for $400 pesos per hour and up, which sure beats the strip joints.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Greetings Gentlemen,
Thanks for all of your great posts! I live in Asia, but will be travelling to Guad next week for a conference. I'm arriving at my hotel at aroun 9pm on the 7th.
Would love to tap some sweetness, but quality is a must, and I don't speak much Spanish. Generally, I like freelancers, but also love the gogo bar scene in Asia.
Any suggestions? I like the idea of Calle 52 that Coahuila was talking about, but not sure how to get there and have safety concerns.
Beers on me for a guided tour of the dark side!
Greetings gentlemen!
I'm coming to GDL for the first time next week and am very interested in finding some good sweet young action. But. I've never been there before, and don't really know the best way to find quality quickly.
I read the mention of Calle 52 with interest, but am not sure where it is, how to get there, or safety.
I arrive on the 7th, and should be at my hotel by 9pm. Any suggestions for where to go, what to do? Plaza Del Sol is right near the hotel. Is it worth it for some nice freelance action?
Insights/suggestions appreciated! Beer is on me if anyhone wants to volunteer to be my tour guide.
excellent report strike, that should be read by anyone thinking about making a trip to gdl just for the mongering or chasing nonpros. although i've met some gems, many of the women are indeed materialistic and superficial. i've driven around town in a tsuru, mercedes, and rent cars and you're right, you get so much attention from women when you're in a nice car, and it's not because you're a gringo. when you meet a tapatia, what comes out of your mouth doesn't make a whole lot of difference, unless she surmises from what you say that you're rich. what's important is your watch, your shoes, your nails, and your clothes.
i have encountered some stunners in the esteticas in years past, but my last two trips to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] didn't turn up anything better than a 7. also, the higher end stripper clubs, like kaos, ramses, golden, can be fun if you don't get turned off by the high pressure sales tactics. you can set up something at a reasonable price for the next day with some of the more ordinary looking women without spending an arm and a leg. i have had sex with stunners from the clubs, but it wasn't cheap. and agreed, not all will do the deed.
[quote=tiny 12]excellent report strike, that should be read by anyone thinking about making a trip to gdl just for the mongering or chasing nonpros. although i've met some gems, many of the women are indeed materialistic and superficial. i've driven around town in a tsuru, mercedes, and rent cars and you're right, you get so much attention from women when you're in a nice car, and it's not because you're a gringo. when you meet a tapatia, what comes out of your mouth doesn't make a whole lot of difference, unless she surmises from what you say that you're rich. what's important is your watch, your shoes, your nails, and your clothes.
i have encountered some stunners in the esteticas in years past, but my last two trips to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] didn't turn up anything better than a 7. also, the higher end stripper clubs, like kaos, ramses, golden, can be fun if you don't get turned off by the high pressure sales tactics. you can set up something at a reasonable price for the next day with some of the more ordinary looking women without spending an arm and a leg. i have had sex with stunners from the clubs, but it wasn't cheap. and agreed, not all will do the deed.[/quote]
thank you tiny 12, you are absolutly right. i remember when i was there some guys told me that they were considering other options for example to "import" girls from russia (or any other former soviet republic) in order to get marry because they were sick of the superficial and materialistic tapatias. some guys eventually just gave up on guadalajaran women because marriage for many of them is only an economic and social arrangement in which they have kids at the horrible cost of having a man around. this type attitude is very common in specially in large cities like guadalajara if you don't have a fancy car, clothes, and tons of money you can forget having a girl there (either pretty or not) but if you are rich no matter how trashy, ugly or uneducated you are because you will have dozens and dozens of girls chasing you and if by mistake you run out of money the girls will dump you like an old shoe.
i remember for example a co worker of mine he was a 45 year old man and his lover was a beautiful 18 year old guadalajaran blonde with the biggest tits i saw in a non pro there, she was with him obviously because he was a considerable wealthy man. i also knew that that girl offered guys money (money coming from his 45 y.o. lover) or allowed the guys to touch and suck her big tities in exchange for doing her college homeworks because she studied in prestigeous private college there and needed to obtain good notes. when i was in guadalajara i didn't like that even though it's a big city the local sex market it's small and don't have many options available in contrast with other large mexican cities like the df (mexico city) or monterrey for example.
the prices that i saw in gdl high end clubs (golden club, the mens) are absolutly outrageous. in high end clubs in monterrey (amnesia,prestige, obsession) prices are cheaper (even though they are expensive by local standards) and the quality and quantity of girls are also so much better. in some low end mp you can find some jewels and have full service for 500 pesos like in the infamous marcella ([url]www.pompis.com.mx[/url]) and some mid to low end strip clubs like the one called "el infinito" you can have porn-star looking girls for 300 pesos. and in mexico city you have the largest (and the best) escort market in the country (and the best strip clubs also), so you definitive have more options available.
feel free to ask me about mexico city or monterrey (i'm an expert in massage parlors and escorts there despite i'm not an expert in strip clubs but i can introduce you to some nice fellas in the mty sections who are experts in the strip club area there)
I'm going to be spending the next two weeks mostly in a hotel in GDL very near the Centro Magno on Avenida Vallarta. Are any of the recommended esteticas nearby?
Thanks--reports to follow
oldguy,
select, eduardo's and monsieur are within walking distance. of those three, select is the closest, and eduardo's is the best known. i think happy hunting posted some photos from monsieur. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and high class are a short cab ride away.
hunkrah, unfortunately, strike 69 in his recent posts is spot on when it comes to action in guadalajara -- it's there, but not worth writing home about.
it sounds like coahuila found something interesting on calle 52. but in general if you're looking for quality, forget about the street wh*res who hang out in front of cheap hotels. i've never found one who's attractive and also gave good service.
there aren't any freelancer bars that i'm aware of. yeah, you might find a few hanging around in bars, but there's nothing that remotely compares to something like cm2, nana hotel disco or cafe la from your neck of the woods.
your best bet is the esteticas. there are a number about 15 minutes (in taxi) from plaza del sol, including ones listed in my post just below to old guy. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] would be a good one-- it's convenient to your location, and better quality than most. gfe is a little harder to come by there though.
i enjoy the strip clubs too, but they're not for everyone, and you can spend a lot of money in a hurry in some of the higher priced clubs if you're not careful. some people have had decent luck with escorts, which is something i've never investigated. read the thread.
[QUOTE=Strike 69]Thank you Tiny 12, you are absolutly right. I remember when I was there some guys told me that they were considering other options for example to "import" girls from Russia (or any other Former Soviet Republic) in order to get marry because they were sick of the superficial and materialistic Tapatias. Some guys eventually just gave up on Guadalajaran women because marriage for many of them is only an economic and social arrangement in which they have kids at the horrible cost of having a man around. This type attitude is very common in specially in large cities like Guadalajara if you don't have a fancy car, clothes, and tons of money you can forget having a girl there (either pretty or not) but if you are rich no matter how trashy, ugly or uneducated you are because you will have dozens and dozens of girls chasing you and if by mistake you run out of money the girls will dump you like an old shoe.
I remember for example a co worker of mine he was a 45 year old man and his lover was a beautiful 18 year old Guadalajaran blonde with the biggest tits I saw in a non pro there, she was with him obviously because he was a considerable wealthy man. I also knew that that girl offered guys money (money coming from his 45 y.o. lover) or allowed the guys to touch and suck her big tities in exchange for doing her college homeworks because she studied in prestigeous private college there and needed to obtain good notes. When I was in Guadalajara I didn't like that even though it's a big city the local sex market it's small and don't have many options available in contrast with other large Mexican cities like the DF (Mexico City) or Monterrey for example.
The prices that I saw in GDL high end clubs (Golden Club, the Mens) are absolutly outrageous. In high end clubs in Monterrey (Amnesia,Prestige, Obsession) prices are cheaper (even though they are expensive by local standards) and the quality and quantity of girls are also so much better. In some low end MP you can find some jewels and have full service for 500 pesos like in the infamous marcella ([url]www.pompis.com.mx[/url]) and some mid to low end strip clubs like the one called "El infinito" you can have porn-star looking girls for 300 pesos. And in Mexico City you have the largest (and the best) escort market in the country (and the best strip clubs also), so you definitive have more options available.
Feel free to ask me about Mexico City or Monterrey (I'm an expert in massage parlors and escorts there despite I'm not an expert in strip clubs but I can introduce you to some nice fellas in the Mty sections who are experts in the strip club area there)[/QUOTE]Strike 69, with all due respect, you are seriously mistaken about Guadalajara. I am 25 years old, white, and I have lived here for 3 years. I am pretty damn broke (especially for North American or Tapatio standards) though I make enough to live and have fun. I have a very attractive tapatia girlfriend, and several more girls in tow that would like the opportunity. None of them are after money, as I neither have it nor pretend that I do. I have had various other girlfriends from the area, with similar experiences. Although there DEFINITELY are gold diggers in Guadalajara, there are just as many in DF and more in Monterrey. Furthermore, any good looking 18 yo dating a 45 year old "wealthy" man, is a gold digger, whether in Guadalajara, Los Angeles or China.
Sorry you had bad experiences here in Guad, but let me tell you with all honesty that you just missed the ball. My buddy just screwed a true stunner, let's just say she was 18 but looked 16, for $200 pesos (yes, pesos). Oh and he got two pops.
Saludos,
Coahuila
Here's a little tip from you that was passed on to me from my Mexican buddies that are into mongering. There is a little casa de citas on the street called Leñadores between Avenida Mexico and Avenida Vallarta. The street is tiny, only 1 block long, so you will either need a taxista that knows the are or a good map. It is within walking distance of Centro Magno.
This little Casa de Citas has older women (35 - 45) working in it, that supposedly give an exceptional service (some of them anyway). Cost should be between $300 and $600 pesos. Don't you dare pay more as you fuck it up for the rest of us gringos.
Once you are on the street, Leñadores, about halfway down you'll see an apartment on the lower story with a bunch of advertisements pasted to the door advertising lots and houses for sale. This is a cover up, knock and the door and a girl will open and let you in. Ask to see all the girls. Biggest selection should be Thurs - Sat between 2 PM and 5 PM. I haven't gone in, so I can't confirm quality or service, but I'm sure about the price and I can also confirm location as I have driven past it.
Good luck, and post a report.
Saludos,
Coahuila
PS - These girls won't be gold diggers either. LOL!
I just want to make sure you guys realize something. Calle 52 is in the Ghetto, and the installations in the places I mentioned are VERY GHETTO. Think the shitty hotels in the Zona Norte of Tijuana. The girls of high quality (why I don't know, maybe under 18?) but the place is ghetto and this is not where a gringo wants to be caught alone at night. Take a taxi and have him wait, or better yet, arrange to go with a Mexican in a NOT TOO FLASHY car if you can.
Also, another tip from a friend that's a stripper, Lipstick on Independencia has various girls working there that are apparently not 18. That's why they look so young. You may want to check it out if you are into that kind of thing, but remember, sleeping with them is wrong and illegal.
Saludos,
Coahuila
[QUOTE=Coahuila]Strike 69, with all due respect, you are seriously mistaken about Guadalajara. I am 25 years old, white, and I have lived here for 3 years. I am pretty damn broke (especially for North American or Tapatio standards) though I make enough to live and have fun. I have a very attractive tapatia girlfriend, and several more girls in tow that would like the opportunity. None of them are after money, as I neither have it nor pretend that I do. I have had various other girlfriends from the area, with similar experiences. Although there DEFINITELY are gold diggers in Guadalajara, there are just as many in DF and more in Monterrey. Furthermore, any good looking 18 yo dating a 45 year old "wealthy" man, is a gold digger, whether in Guadalajara, Los Angeles or China.
Sorry you had bad experiences here in Guad, but let me tell you with all honesty that you just missed the ball. My buddy just screwed a true stunner, let's just say she was 18 but looked 16, for $200 pesos (yes, pesos). Oh and he got two pops.
Saludos,
Coahuila[/QUOTE]
For the response I saw in your post you have assimilated quite well into the Tapatian culture. You have lived only for 3 years in GDL and you think you know already the Tapatian's costumes and way of life...... knock knock let me tell you something I was there for 10 years (I have Mexican citizenship by the way), and I can tell you are increideble naive because you think that those Tapatias want a chance with you without having a "hidden interest" (mainly economic)?? I wish you good luck really because in general with some exceptions the trend in Guadalajara passed along from mothers to daughters is to educate them to be with a man and try to catch him only if they can get something good in exchange whether is economic benefits, political or social status or other kind of "benefits". You think that they want a chance with you only because they like you?? That's what you think ....If you were in any other part of Mexico I could say yes you are right but not in Guadalajara dude. I hope you don't regreat those words in the future when your female friends find another dude of whom they can obtain better benefits (whether economic, social or political ). Just look at the malls, the majority of the girls dress and walk like they are in a fashion parade ...some are just like a bait waiting to catch a fish, some others are just acting cocky about their economic status..... in Mexico I have seen that kind of attitude only in Guadalajara. Just look in the "womens' studies" section of a large bookstore in the Guadalajaran's schools. Read a little from some of the books you find. The attitudes are amazing; it is a wonder that marriage even exists here anymore. Marriage is viewed something like a business arrangement, or some sort of deal whereby the Tapatian Women gets to have children at the horrible cost of having a man around.
You are white?? so what?? so I am??? You can have full service for 200 pesos in some places in GDL?? so what??? in Mexico City and Monterrey you can have it for 100 or even 50 pesos in some places.
To say that there are as many SP's in GDL as there are in Monterrey or Mexico City is absolutly ridiculous... for example Monterrey have more than 60 strip clubs full of chicks. How many in Guadalajara?? No more than 10 ... regarding high end clubs in GDL there are the Mens Club and the Golden Club only two in which having fun will cost you an arm and a leg in contrast in Monterrey there are the Amnesia, the Metropolis Premier, the Prestige, the Obsession, the Poisson and many others.
Mexico City has the largest and best escort market in Mexico meanwhile the escort scene in Guadalajara is unexistant if you run with luck you will find bait and switch tarjetas or agencies.
Any good looking 18 yo dating a 45 year old "wealthy" man, is not a gold digger, whether in Guadalajara, Los Angeles or China that is called a superficial, materialistic, double moral and frivolous woman. I forget to tell you that girl had several guys more or less their age but she ignored them all because they didn't have a cent to offer (she said that by the way) and at the same time she was at the church all the time pretending to be a religious person....how hypocrital but that's very common in Guadalajara of course.
Sex with Tapatias in general is extremely easy if you have the economic means (or at least if they think that you are rich) so in my personal experience I would say... If I have the chance to have sex with a starbucks blondie Tapatia maybe I'll do it... but I will never pick up a frivolous Tapatia for a serious relationship no way José........
I've talked with other people coming from other Mexicans states and other foreigners and many of them agreed that despite some exceptions from all of Mexico the Tapatias are the most frivolous and materialistic type of women within the country.
I suggest you to travel outside Guadalajara and outside Mexico to see other type of women so you can compere. Some Women in Eastern Europe are far so much prettier than Tapatias and less frivolous for example.
Coahuila, I haven't spent as much time in Guadalajara as you -- if you add it all up, maybe 9 months in the last 5 years. I've dated two women in Guadalajara that are as you described, though probably not as attractive -- really down to earth, good women that treated me well and weren't materialistic or superficial. Unfortunately, I guess I want the flashy hottie and am willing to put up with the B.S. sometimes to get her.
Anyway, as far as the average goes for very attractive women in Guadalajara, Strike is right, especially for those of us in our late 30's on up. I can go to Juarez or Panama City or just about any city in Colombia and get a ton more attention without having to come off like a rich playboy. I think the reason is because Guadalajara is more prosperous than most of the rest of Latin America, and it's reasonably safe -- if somebody has some money they can show it off without having to be shadowed by security, unlike, say, Mexico City or Bogota. Also, I agree with Strike about PFP. Only Mexico City, Cancun and Los Cabos are more expensive, in my experience. Everyplace else I've been in Latin America was cheaper, except I guess Buenos Aires before the devaluation.
I'm glad both you and Strike have started contributing to the Guadalajara board, and hope you'll continue to do so -- you know a lot more about the city than the rest of us that just pass in and out for business or vacation.
[QUOTE=Coahuila] I am 25 years old, white, and I have lived here for 3 years. I am pretty damn broke (especially for North American or Tapatio standards) though I make enough to live and have fun. I have a very attractive tapatia girlfriend, and several more girls in tow that would like the opportunity. None of them are after money, as I neither have it nor pretend that I do. [/QUOTE]
Well, on two hours of sleep after taking a redeye to GDL, I decided I wasn't up to the challenge of taking on an estetica just yet, so used the Internet site [url]http://guadalajara.vivastreet.com.mx/escorts-masajistas+guadalajara-y-area-met[/url] that I discovered several weeks ago (pretty much a Craigs List kind of site.) I called Grecia, see pic from the site, who came over exactly on time, 90 minutes after I had called her. Her internet pic pretty much tells the story of the body. Her face was not a knockout, but she was quite attractive. 49 kilos, she says (and I believe), probably about 5' or 5' 1", and she looked about 17. She self reported as 20 and, despite a tight little body, she did show the signs of recent child birth (loose tummy, all else slim). Physically, I'd rate her an 8, and I was pretty pleased when she showed up. However, she had none of the charm I've come to associate with Argentine chicas, who I normally engage in 15 or 20 minutes of conversations before and after the action. Interesting, despite what I like in a body and face, I kinda felt like I was rolling around with the Mexican equivalent of a 17 year old idiot valley girl. BTW, she spoke no English, which is not an issue for me.
So, the experiment was half successful and half not. I did, in fact, get the girl in the picture. On the other hand, an inflatable doll would have had about as much personality. Maybe I'm too choosy, or I should start looking to the 26 to 30 year olds. We'll see where we go from here...
Looks 17, self-reports 20 = prison if you are American and she is actually 17. Check ID! And read up on "rights of extraterritoriality." México ain't Argentina. Believe me, I know the difference.
[QUOTE=Dickhead]Looks 17, self-reports 20 = prison if you are American and she is actually 17. Check ID! And read up on "rights of extraterritoriality." México ain't Argentina. Believe me, I know the difference.[/QUOTE]
A good message to us all.
this week i travelled down from lake chapala to spend a few days in gdl (mid-week).
i stayed at the mission carlton, which is just on the edge of the central core. its a pretty standard 2-3 star, but its getting quite well worn. it was good being on the 12th floor, as it blocked much of the traffic noise, otherwise its an unremarkable hotel. there always seemed to be a few porters or front desk staff doing double duty as security. i didn't intend to invite anyone up to my room, so it wasn't an issue.
my first stop was across the street to med esteticas. 500 pesos for 1/2 hr, and i picked out a smiling, energetic girl who was a 6 (in my books). there were 5 girls to choose from (mostly 5's), and i was happy with the service for the price.
in the afternoon, i decided to try and find the 52 calle that coahuila spoke of. i have a car, and bought a detailed map from a gas station. coahuila mentioned that the house doesn't kick off till night, but knowing how poorly streets and houses are marked, i wanted to do a drive-by. i didn't have difficulty locating the cross streets, but could not find the exact house number. anyway, figuring that i was within a block, i planned to return later that evening.
next i ventured to find high class. i was surprised how much difficulty i had locating it. its on a busy road, and its not easy to loop around, because of heavy traffic and lack of places to pull off. i did find [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] (god i hate that name). i decided to go into [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], but reluctantly because i was so intent on finding hc. which i'm sure i must have driven past it a few times). anyway, at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] i was led upstairs and it was explained that rates were 500 pesos for the room, and 700 for the girl for 45m. 1 hr. we reached a stalemate when i was told that i could not see the girls unless i agreed to proceed for sure, and i explained that i wouldn't decide or agree until i saw the girls first.
eventually he led in 6 girls. honestly, i think i would have been happy with any of the chicas. they were are solid 7's, in their 20's and slim. i decided on a petite high 7, with long black hair. she was sweet little thing, who seemed to love sex (can't remember her name).
after stopping at the restaurant next door for a steak and a beer, i ventured out to boom-boom table dance. it was early (10pm), but with 1/2 dozen patrons and the same number of girls, it seemed pathetic. i sat down and had a beer, and shooed away the girl that the waiter led to my table. the room was freezing, and i felt badly for the scantly clad girls, especially a couple of the skinny ones who don't have much body fat. one beer was enough to send me packing.
next stop was back to the neighborhood with #52. i drove a loop around the area. there were 1/2 dozen figurines standing in dark doorways within a block of where the map matched coahuila's directions. the neighborhood also has a smattering of table dance places within a few blocks.
i parked a block away, and went in on foot. as i passed 5 different doorways with 'girls', it became clear that they were all tv's. i walked around the block and wandered into one of the table dance bars. there were a couple low grade women (although one girl had a huuuuge rack), and i polished off a beer before moving on. back on the street, there were a few druggies stumbling around, and a few groups gathered out front of bars, but i didn't feel unsafe. like everywhere in gdl, the cops were doing loops ever so often with their lights flashing. so, disappointed, i headed back up towards central to check out the street action and a bar. neither was very interesting (more tv's on the street), and titanic had a high sausage factor, so bailed back to the hotel.
the next day day i wandered back over to med, and picked out a different girl. very happy with the quality for the price.
i'll likely head back down to gdl next week for another overnighter (maybe this time i'll find hc), but i don't think i'll bother with the strip clubs or the street scene next time, and stick with the massage parlors / esteticas.
i also wanted to clear up any confusion i may have caused regarding an earlier post, in which i mentioned a trip to juniors. it appears that there are 2 clubs called jrs. (same owner? ) the one i visited is 1/2 between the airport and lake chapala, on the main highway, while i believe that another poster was referring to the one in gdl.
There are about 15 spots with TVs, and 5 with real girls. Of those 5, only 2 have any material worth while. The hotties are EXACTLY between Obregon and 12 de Octubre, ON Calle 52, on the west side of the street in a small door almost in the middle of the block. IN THAT DOOR, girls are 7. 9 s. The rest of the doors offer 1s. 6s at best, although one of the doors on 12 de Octubre supposedly has some good quality girls that never bother to stand in the door due to the amount of regular clients they have.
Mr. North, how and when are we going to meet up. I wouldn't mind taking you by the area, I have some unfinished "business" there with a chica. LOL. If you are in Ajijic, stop by the real estate office named "Casa Mexico" in the Plaza Ajijic and leave a message for Chris with your number. Again, be discreet.
Cheers,
Coahuila
Mr. North, when looking for High Class, look for a horseshoe of green and yellow balloons around the entranceway, right on the sidewalk. That is my landmark. The sign is low key, but I can spot the balloons from the other side of the street, and then just turn around at the traffic circle, and park on a side street.
The first time finding it is always the most difficult. But IMHO it is worth the effort.
Some links to local forums, they are in Spanish and there's no much information available but they could come in handy:
[url]http://boards5.melodysoft.com/app?ID=sexxxyprovincia[/url]
Inside there's a boutton with a link to the main group inside yahoo group whih is called: "foro temporal 2004"
There was another forum created about one year and a half ago called: Caderas Tapatias or Tapatian Hips, I don't remember the address and it wasnt an open forum it was some sort of "VIP" membership based in your contributions.
All in spanish but with great information (better than sexxxyprovincia) is:
[url]www.portalguadalajara.com.mx[/url]
It is free and you just have to register. It is down currently, but should be back up in a week or so. They are changing servers... mexican style.
Cheers,
Coahuila
Ignorance is saying that there are only 10 strip clubs in Guadalajara. The number is closer to 50. Probably on the up side of 50. Gringo tourists just don't know where to look.
Don, Do you have any favorites, where you don't have to spend lots of money to get drunk and get laid? The only low end strip clubs I've actually visited are the three between the airport and Hotel Tapatio, which were a lot of fun, although the quality of the women left something to be desired. Oh yeah, and Guadalajara del Dia -- that place really deteriorated with the years, if it's even still open -- it used to be the best in town.
[QUOTE=Guadalajara Don]Ignorance is saying that there are only 10 strip clubs in Guadalajara. The number is closer to 50. Probably on the up side of 50. Gringo tourists just don't know where to look.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Guadalajara Don]Ignorance is saying that there are only 10 strip clubs in Guadalajara. The number is closer to 50. Probably on the up side of 50. Gringo tourists just don't know where to look.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah?? Don't make me laugh, let's count one by one the strip clubs in Guadalajara some of them are:
The Candy's
The Ramses
The Lipstick
The Golden paradise
El Juniors
The Golden Club
The Men's Club
The Ladies Bar
D'Klub
Guadalajara de Dia
Even though if there are now more than 10 strip clubs for what is worth? The best quality girls are found in the high end clubs such as the Mens Club and the Golden club, some time if you run with luck can found some in the Candys (not a high end one) and usually the rest (and many others low end clubs) have girls going to avarage to bad quality in both beauty and service offered (not all offer full service by the way) so for what is worth to have more than a dozen of clubs if they are full of bad or avarage quality girls who don't offer full service or offer bad service.
Try around 80 to 100. The vast majority are in the centro, east of Independencia (I only see one of the maybe 20 or 30 in that area listed, namely Ramses) or on the highways leading out of town towards Saltillo, Mexico or Chapala. Supposedly the best strip club in town right now is Titanic Blue. Other good one's are Nuevo Galeon, another one in front of the estadio (name escapes me) and one on the salida towards Zapotlanejo near Puente Grande (sorry name escapes me). None of these are listed. There are 5 Junior's AT LEAST so saying there are only 10 strip clubs is plain stupid. Also, saying that only the high end clubs have nice girls, is also stupid. Men's and Golden's hire like 90% foreign girls, so if you are looking for Ukranians and Brazilians they are great, but if you want to see some hot Mexicanas you have to go to middle or lower end clubs. In fact, Candy's (upper middle end) hires about 50% or more extranjeras. For pure Mexicanas go even lower than that.
I would give more info but I'm really not a strip club kind of guy myself. Why pay the same amount of cash to watch one dance as to fuck one a parlor? BUT I have heard that Titanic Blue has live sex shows, lesbian shows AND a bucket of beers for a girl costs $400 pesos for which you can take her to a privado for an hour and fuck her. Of course, you have to look moderately decent, otherwise I'm sure she will charge you extra.
Have fun boys... oh, and I would be willing to bet a lapdance if you counted strip clubs 1 by 1 Guadalajara would have Monterrey beat silly. You just need the right guide.
Coahuila
Coahuila, that might work for young guys like you, assuming she's drunk on her ass or your girlfriend. But the rest of us don't have a prayer. Good info, I'm looking forward to checking out Titanic Blue next trip. Where's it at?
[QUOTE=Coahuila] Titanic Blue has live sex shows, lesbian shows AND a bucket of beers for a girl costs $400 pesos for which you can take her to a privado for an hour and fuck her. Of course, you have to look moderately decent, otherwise I'm sure she will charge you extra. [/QUOTE]
Strike recently recommended a local web site that was previously mentioned here a few years ago. Anyway I was reading through it today, and Javier's escort service is getting almost unanimously rave reviews. According to the reviews, the quality and service are good, and prices are 1000 pesos for an hour, 1500 for 2 hours, and 3000 for TLN. Apparently he doesn't have a web site, and ISG site rules don't permit me to write the phone number here, but you can find it at
[url]http://boards5.melodysoft.com/app?ID=sexxxyprovincia&msg=1306[/url]
[url]http://boards5.melodysoft.com/app?ID=sexxxyprovincia&msg=1061&DOC=61[/url]
Apparently this is his cell phone.
Two new strip clubs have opened within the last six months between the airport and the Hotel Tapatio. Bucanero is the first right that you can make when exiting the airport going toward Guad. It is only about 50 meters after you leave the exit ramp, so be careful not to miss it. Cadillac is on the same side of the Caratera as the Boom Boom, just a little farther south. Neither gets going until after 10, so go to the Boom Boom first. They have a shift change at 9, so get there about 8-8:30. The early girls are borocha by then and good times can be had. If they are all fat and ugly, go back the next night. Things do change. After 9, 98% of them are fat and ugly and not worth your time.
After thinking about it for a few days, I have upped my estimate on the number of strip clubs in the area. It is over 100. Don't depend on a guy that uses the yellow pages to get his information. And don't be afraid to leave and go on to the next joint if you don't like what you see. Like I said, things change from night to night.
GD
I spent 4 hours in this area yesterday. I wanted to see IF what was being published here had any validity. First of all, Calle 52 is not named "Calle 52" it has another name and that makes it difficult to find. Secondly, it is 3 blocks between Obragon and 12 de Octubre, so when it is stated that there is a "place in the middle of the block" it makes it hard to find at the very least. Anyways, I was there between 4 and 8. There were about 4 DOGS working and 1 pup. Most all wanted 150pesos. They were just too ugly to even waste my time! Although the pup was interesting. I only saw one TV who wanted 200pesos. Hmmm. There were about 4 clubs in the area. Most did not open until 9.
I have mongered in Monterrey. There may be "Monterrey Style" clubs in GDL but I have YET to find them. And IF you did find them, they would be few and FAR between. Not like in MTY where they are literally door to door in a ten block area. I'll keep exploring. Thanks for the info Coahuilla. I had a good time exploring yesterday. The easiest way to get to Calle 52 area is to take the east/west metro/train/subway. Just ask someone where to get off for "Calle 52. " It's only about 2 blocks from the station.
Coahuila. I know that I appreciate your reports BUTT. When you give information please be more accurate. I checked out the "best kept secret" location yesterday on "Lenadores" which is actually pretty close to my house. First of all, it is LEONIDAS, not Lenadores. IF it is located between Vallarta and Ave. De Mexico. The street was about 4 blocks long. It was very residential. It was near Plaza de Mexico. Finding a house with advertisements, etc. Posted on it was next to impossible. Why don't you register with ISG so we can communicate?
Thanks Guadalajara Don, that sounds like a good strategy at Boom Boom. I don't remember whether it was the Boom Boom or another bar nearby, but I ran across an absolute stunner one night. Never got a chance to talk to her though.
but it is obviously stronger than what I am smoking...
The street is called Leñadores (Lumber Jacks if you will) it is between Vallarta and Lazaro Cardenas I believe. It IS one block long and I have seen it. Not sure of the street names there, but look up Leñadores and you will find it.
As for the 52, let me get this straight, go Gigantes until Calle 52 (you will have to ask people, as the streets are labeled by names, but everyone knows them by numbers) when you get to 52, take a right. The next street is 12 de Octubre. The girls are between Gigantes and 12 de Octubre ON 52, about at the halfway point of the block. The last 3 weeks there have been uglier girls (not TVs, but not the same girls from before). Not sure what has changed, but I will investigate. When you hit 12 de Octubre you can take a right and 3 houses down there are more girls. Normally not my type, but last time there were two hotties. I couldn't investigate but will this week. Good luck, and this info is real .
Have fun,
Coahuila
Gracias Coahuila.
Thanks for the verification on the street name. I'm using Guia Rojo for my info. And I do not know everyword in spanich. I'll go back to the area soon. I also have some more info that I'm going to check out that is in that area.
I went back to Calle 52 last night (Sunday) later in the night and YES. There are lots of real deals there. Three or four great girls. You DO have to be careful as some of these "girls" have really deep vioces. I had a blast there last night for less the $20US. I never felt threatened or afraid.
My new years resolution is to find the "local spots" not the tourist spots in GDL. I'm sure there is good puncha in this town!
Coahuila, I don't have any problem with what you write and appreciate your contributions -- you've livened up the board, and pointed me towards a couple of places I'm going to check out. You do have a different perspective at 25 than many of the rest of us.
KenTucky, Regarding location of Leñadores, see following - it looks like you were too far to the east:
[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Le%C3%B1adores+Guadalajara&sll=20.676921,-103.402946&sspn=0.007729,0.012338&ie=UTF8&ll=20.676917,-103.402934&spn=0.015458,0.024676&z=16&om=1[/url]
Since Calle 52 is Antonio Tello, those places should be here (don't know which side of Calle 52/Antonio Tello it's on from description):
[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=20.665915,-103.318455&daddr=&mra=mi&mrsp=0&sz=16&sll=20.665935,-103.318348&sspn=0.015459,0.024676&ie=UTF8&z=16&om=1[/url]
That was tongue in cheek man, I am German, so you have to put up with some sarcasm. Check out the areas, they are fun. Although, the house on 52 has not had the quality the last two times I drove past it as it did over the last 6 months. I hope that's just because the girls are on a winter break, and not a more permanent situation.
Saludos,
Coahuila
Well. I just got back from Lenadores. One side of the street is some kind of a "compound" with a 15ft wall surrounding it and the other side is apartments. Now, I walked the area 4 times over a 2 hour period and I saw NOTHING that looked like it had ANY women. It looked very residential and family.
Coahuila. This is very exhausting. Noone is doubting your "reports" but you are NOT giving very good info like HOUSE NUMBERS. And WHY would someone go to this much trouble when there are at least 8 Esteticas within 5 blocks of Centro Magna? All will charge you the same price as what you call "the best kept secret" in GDL. IF you are going to give info, please give details.
[QUOTE=Coahuila]I would give more info but I'm really not a strip club kind of guy myself. Why pay the same amount of cash to watch one dance as to fuck one a parlor? BUT I have heard that Titanic Blue ........................................
Coahuila[/QUOTE]
Is Kenia still there?
Country John
The street is Lenadores and it is between Avenida Mexico and Vallarta before the train tracks. The deal is 600 pesos for one pop but its negociable. The thing is its wierd cuz after you agree to the deed the chick takes you to another apt. About 5 minutes away. Its secure just a little wierd the whole set up. The only chick abvailable was Lucy. 42 y/o and has 2 kids. Cool service. Wish they had more chicks.
OMG! The question IS: What is the apartment number!!! There are 30 apartments on that street! Is a person suppose to go door to door?? Guys, this is ridiculous! And 600 pesos! Negotiable!? I would hope so! And one old hag with 2 kids! This is a SECRET! As far as I'm concerned this is best left to be a secret! I've already wasted too much time on this!
I'm looking for a house that is near the train station and Super Gigante. It's in the same area? Anyone know about this?
[QUOTE=Ken Tucky]OMG! The question IS: What is the apartment number!!! There are 30 apartments on that street! Is a person suppose to go door to door?? Guys, this is ridiculous! And 600 pesos! Negotiable!? I would hope so! And one old hag with 2 kids! This is a SECRET! As far as I'm concerned this is best left to be a secret! I've already wasted too much time on this!
I'm looking for a house that is near the train station and Super Gigante. It's in the same area? Anyone know about this?[/QUOTE]Calm down buddy! I wa trying to help. The number is 18. And as stated by other posters its the only only one with you bunch of signs and posters on the front of it. As for the rest of the deal everyone knows that things change at these places more than than the girls change their underwear sooo that was my experience bout 2 months ago. Could very well have changed.
Here is the chick and place in question.
I forgot the link.
[url]http://guadalajara.vivastreet.com.mx/escorts-masajistas+guadalajara/lucy-en-promocion/1110966[/url]
It is halfway down the street, with signs of "lots for sale" all over the front door. The only one there that is like that. There usually are between 2 and 5 girls working, or at least there were. They are all older than 30. I think the number may be #118.
As for the other esteticas around Centro Magno. I don't know them. I recently checked out Alexander and Sagitarrios, both on Federalismo. There is a chica that goes by Paulina at Sagitarrios that is OK in the looks department (maybe a 6), but gives really good service and is really nice. That is the only one I could recommend at either of those esteticas at this point.
Have fun!
Coahuila
I went downtown last night just to check out what was happening on a Tuesday night in January. The last time I was downtown "exploring" was back in August. I was on Independencia between Revolution and Morelos Park. I've just given up on the SC's here. Lipstick had a bunch of balloons and a bunch of big bouncers out front. I wouldn't even dare look at them muchless go in. Funny, but one of the bouncer recognized me as a gringo and looked as if he wanted to 'persuade' me to go in. The SC scene here is just plain stupid. Just plain stupid! I know that it has to do with the local politics and religion. But still, this is Mexico! And the street scene is about as wide open as I've seen anywhere. Ok. So, you have a lot of street action on both sides of Independencia for about a mile. There were at least 10 girls working in Morelos Park. Now granted, these are NOT hot mamasitas, but there was one who was completely adorable. 200pesos. That's the price. I like to pretend that I don't speak any Spanish and let them quote me a price. Usually I do this only with the fugly mammas. Anyways, I'm gonna go to the SC in the Calle 52 area this weekend. I've been there but it has been way too early. Problem is, Calle 52 is a long way from where I live and the buses and subway close at 11pm. Hard to get into the 'game' in the SC when you know that you have to take a 30min taxi ride home. Ok. Happy New Year.
I went to Calle 52 last night. I particularly wanted to check out the strip clubs. There are actually 6 in the area. All have big impressive facades on their entrances, but as of 10: 30pm they were all DEAD. I went into one who made me pay a $40mxnpeso cover. They told me there were 5 girls working. They lied. It just felt like the same song and dance as every other SC in GDL.
I did run into some trouble: with the police. I was walking on the sidewalk. They pulled over, checked me and stole $100mxnpesos from me! These were federales, not the local policia.
There are lots of chicas of all kinds in the Calle 52 area. Just be careful with the police!
Hey guys,
First, Old Guy, how much was Grecia going for?
About the gem of a brothel close to Plaza Mexico, on leandores I had a look for it the other week. Difficult to find but with the house number you get it. Theres a sign advertising rooms for rent on a tree by the house. Well I knocked and an old dear opened the door. She lead me to the kitchen and I met a chica, dirty blonde, forgot her name, she told me that she was the only girl available. We negociated. She was quite pretty. In her 30's and slim. We went upstairs and got to it. Id go back, she was pleasing and sexy.
Hows Mediterrano thses days?
hello to all,
i am local mexican, excuse for may english skills but i want to comment my last experiences in the scene of girls in guadalajara, the last week i went as to 2 of afternoon to estetica eduar's [url]www.eduars. 7dtodo.com[/url] in golfo de cortez 2876-b by the glorieta minerva and takes the surprise to me of which there are new girls, like 8, i chose a girl name tamara, 19 years, 1, 70 m pretty, sexy, pleasant, she did bbj and very pleasant to have sex in any position, she's from the state of sinaloa and is new in the business, it is a very recommendable, she's a real ninfo, requests $1. 050 pesos but accepted by $1. 000, it was really worth it.
also in previous weeks i visited estetica alex in av. 876 arcos, col. jardines del bosque with many [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] girls some very young but legal, some very pretty, there were like 7 girls, almost every 2 weeks enter 2 or 3 new working girls, costs $1. 000 pesos full service, in special there is a new very pretty girl of 18 years, non remember her name, she is very sexual girl. another place that i visited in last days was the table dance ramses near the area calle 52 and obregón, it has the best selection of girls of that area, in special there is a foreign girl from uruguay, 21 years, very sexy, went to the private with her and she has a divine body and face. please post your comments if you visit these places, remember that many times we depend on the luck to find quality in this city and the best places usually have high personal rotation, especially if you want to avoid old hags, good luck!
Welcome aboard Fraga! It sounds like Eduars is worth visiting again. Hope to hear more from you soon.
Made the usual visit to High Class. Had Vicki. 550. She was quite nice. Worth returning to see her again.
Just want to keep everyone informed: You DO NOT have to pay 1000pesos to get good 'Estetica" service in GDL. There are dozens of esteticas for 400pesos. I have been to Eduars and I walked out after they quoted the price. Now IF you want to spend that kind of money, fine. Just want you to know that 400pesos is the going price at an Estetica.
Also, I appreciate the report about the Leanordes Location, but I still DO NOT know why this place is such a 'gem. ' Especially since I still do not know the price.
The 'going rate' for this kind of 'backdoor' location is usually 200pesos. Again, there are lots of these kind of locations around town.
ken tucky, that's 400 pesos for 30 minutes, right? when you pay 1000 to 1200 pesos at the higher-priced esteticas you're getting an hour, so i don't think that's directly comparable. also, i can walk into, say, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], pay 1200, and be assured i'm at least going to a place with nice facilities and some good looking women. that's not always true of the lower priced places (and admittedly not true of some of the higher priced establishments either).
what are your favorite esteticas right now?
I hope you didn't kiss Vicki, Dean69. I was there about noon and had a very nice BBBJ. I consider her a bargain for 550 pesos. Don't wory too much about the kiss, she had a toothbrush and toothpaste with her. haha
Was Pancho still painting in the stair area when you were there?
To all others: Vicki was the only worthwhile Puta there, the rest were Gordas (and ugly). Perhaps there was a better selection after 2, when the rest of them come in.
[QUOTE=Ken Tucky]Just want to keep everyone informed: You DO NOT have to pay 1000pesos to get good 'Estetica" service in GDL. There are dozens of esteticas for 400pesos. I have been to Eduars and I walked out after they quoted the price. Now IF you want to spend that kind of money, fine. Just want you to know that 400pesos is the going price at an Estetica.
Also, I appreciate the report about the Leanordes Location, but I still DO NOT know why this place is such a 'gem. ' Especially since I still do not know the price.
The 'going rate' for this kind of 'backdoor' location is usually 200pesos. Again, there are lots of these kind of locations around town.[/QUOTE]Can always find out the price if you walk in the joint and ask. I wouldn't call it a Gem myself.
I was walking along Lopez Mateos, going to High Class, when I saw a sign for Casanova. Ave. Lopez Mateos Sur #1623. Now, I remembered having read something about the place a few years back, but I cannot find it now.
Anyhow, I decided to stop. Was offered 1 chica for 500, 2 for 800. I opted for Nicole and Angie. Nicole is a bit bigger, Angie more thin. Angie's hands were so good that I came almost immediately. No fear, offered another one. Nicole did CBJ. No FS offered. I was disappointed by that, but all in all not a bad experience.
[QUOTE=Guadalajara Don]I hope you didn't kiss Vicki, Dean69. I was there about noon and had a very nice BBBJ. I consider her a bargain for 550 pesos. Don't wory too much about the kiss, she had a toothbrush and toothpaste with her. haha
Was Pancho still painting in the stair area when you were there?
To all others: Vicki was the only worthwhile Puta there, the rest were Gordas (and ugly). Perhaps there was a better selection after 2, when the rest of them come in.[/QUOTE]I was there later in the afternoon, and the selection was ample. However, IMHO, she was the best.
Tiny. Yep 30 min. Hell, that's how I learned to do it: start at the bottom and bid up. And plenty of us have been ripped off at the high dollar places to know that there is NOT a guarentee there either. The backdoor girls in Calle 52 area start at 150pesos. I can't imagine what would happen IF I offered them 500 or 1000!! To each his own. Just my 'dos pesos' worth.
Often the rule is you get what you pay in the Estetica but no always, by example referring to my last post, the time service is longer, better looking girls, more amateur and younger, better and cleaner facilities, Bare blow jobs, no rush, it's really worth it if you prefer quality.
Do you know that Esteticas High Class, Mediterraneo and Alcala belong to the same owner and they rotate the girls once a while, that means they usually are higher mileage girls but sometimes you find a gem into these places.
[QUOTE=Ken Tucky]Just want to keep everyone informed: You DO NOT have to pay 1000pesos to get good 'Estetica" service in GDL. There are dozens of esteticas for 400pesos. I have been to Eduars and I walked out after they quoted the price. Now IF you want to spend that kind of money, fine. Just want you to know that 400pesos is the going price at an Estetica.
Also, I appreciate the report about the Leanordes Location, but I still DO NOT know why this place is such a 'gem. ' Especially since I still do not know the price.
The 'going rate' for this kind of 'backdoor' location is usually 200pesos. Again, there are lots of these kind of locations around town.[/QUOTE]
hi all,
i was in town visiting with the family and had a moment of escape to visit both of these places.
i remembered approximately where high class (and jovi (now closed)) were but they have done some major work on improving the roads in front of hc. (i knew [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] was close but i was not exactly sure where it was).
i entered high class and was presented the girls (about 6-8 of them). they were mainly 5-7's imho but i found one (vanessa) that would work. i was told the price was $550 mn for 1/2 hour. vanessa came in, asked if i wanted to start up the jacuzzi, but i passed and told her i only wanted the relation. she was cool with that and left for the condom. 5 minutes later, cbj and then move to the rear entry standing. it was all good and after several minutes, i was done. great, fast way to clean the pipe.
i asked her about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and she told me where it was (across the street next to the beer place). i cleaned up and left and went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
15 seconds before i entered, a guy went in. he was shown to his room and me to my room. the line up passed his room then mine. the 8-10 women presented looked better than at high class (7-8's imho). i was already good to go since i had cleaned the pipe twice that day (once with wife in am and then once with venessa in hc). the lady came around and asked which one i wanted and i picked the one with the nicest face/body (enhanced), but then she told me that she had already been chosen by the guy that came in before me. i used that as my excuse to leave saving me the $1200 pesos price that they were asking. (i really only wanted to see the line up so i could report to you all).
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is much nicer place with nicer women but also at a higher cost. not for some of you budget mongers.
take care!
$bill
[QUOTE=Dean69]I was walking along Lopez Mateos, going to High Class, when I saw a sign for Casanova. Ave. Lopez Mateos Sur #1623. Now, I remembered having read something about the place a few years back, but I cannot find it now.
Anyhow, I decided to stop. Was offered 1 chica for 500, 2 for 800. I opted for Nicole and Angie. Nicole is a bit bigger, Angie more thin. Angie's hands were so good that I came almost immediately. No fear, offered another one. Nicole did CBJ. No FS offered. I was disappointed by that, but all in all not a bad experience.[/QUOTE]Are there hotels close enough that one could walk to these MPs?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=DrBrew1]Are there hotels close enough that one could walk to these MPs?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The Hilton is on Avenida Rosas and Mariano Otero-- it is a walk, but not too bad. Also, Mariano Otero has some less expensive hotels. Lopez Mateos also has high end, like the Intercontinental as well as slightly less expensive places. Again, it is a bit of a walk, but not bad.
Yesterday I was passing through the city and I thought I'd drop in to High Class for a 1/2 hour session. Last time I was there I saw Vanessa who, as Dollar Bill reported recently, gave a quite good performance.
This time there were about half a dozen chicas, all pretty plain, so I went with the one who met me at the door - Jessica. She's quite attractive although she could stand to lose about 20 lbs, and she seemed very friendly when she greeted me.
I paid for a half hour, took a shower, and we started. She gave me a back rub with cold cream that lasted about 3 minutes, then had me roll over so the she could get me hard with her hands and put on the cover, then proceeded to climb on. I said "What about oral?" and I shouldn't have bothered. The good thing about it was that she only did it for about 30 seconds, and then climbed on again for CG. After she had humped around for about a minute she stopped and said "Did you finish?". I said no, she suggested perrito, and by this time all I wanted to do was get it over with, so that's what I did. Total time including showers before and after just under 15 minutes.
To top it all off it was only an hour later that I realized I had forgotten to collect my 50 pesos change.
I've never had bad service at HC before, although never anything truly great either. However if this is an example of what can happen there these days, I'm not going to waste time and money trying out any others.
Hi,
I'm new to this board, and to the area, but I hope geezers like me are welcome. I'm retired in Ajijic, and I've read with interest the reports about activity locally. So far it sounds fairly depressing, but whenever my leash-holder goes north to visit her family, I look forward to exploring the possibilities. I've seen a place called Intimo Bar and Motel at the Ajijic end of the bypass; does anyone know if there is any action there? Or any other possibilities than the ones reported on previously?
You guys who pay 1000mxn and more for service do NOT get what you pay for! You just get ripped off for more! i.e. the High Class experience recently posted by Moby Dave. I am here to tell you where the prices 'start' at most places here in GDL. IF you decide to pay more, iT DOES NOT guarantee better service. GDL is a different scene than other places I've been in Mexico. The religion and politics of GDL determine of lot of it's protocal. I've only lived here for 6 months and have learned a lot. Who knows what I will learn in the future? Just the 'usual' haunts that are posted and reported here are NOT anywhere near what GDL offers. The area around Centro Magna is rich with 'opportunities.' Check my other posts if you'd like to know what I think and pm me if you have any specific questions.
Ok guys, I’ve listed ten locations within walking distance a Centro Magno that are great Esteticas. The prices are reasonable (starting at 400mxn), the facilities are clean, and the girls are nice. I’ve listed these in order of preference. I've got pics of all of them but am not going to attach them. Let’s see what you guys think. Happy trails.
Griegos (Lopez Cotilla & Ave. America) always hot mamasitas! Go after 4.
Christopher (Hidalgo & Francisco Rojas Gonzalez) always hot mamsitas. Go anytime.
Valentino & Molino Rojo (Justo Sierra y Severo Diaz, near Lopez Mateos)
Luigi (Lopez Cotilla & M. Cervantes)
Beauty Garden (La Paz & Simon Bolivar) Never very many girls, but the ones who are there are usually hot.
Barba Azul (Vallarta & Calderon de la Barca) Really nice facilities. Not many girls. Starts at mil pesos!
Casandra (Bernardo de Balbuena & Garibaldi) Hole in the wall with poor facilities, but hot mamasitas and will salida.
World Men’s (Pedro Moreno between Balbuena & Pacencia) Go after 4. Never tried it, I shopped it once and there was only one girl.
General Manuel M. Dieguez #264 & Reforma. Been here twice. They are sisters. One big one and one very very nice one. 220mxn is a great price.
Wonderful contribution, KT. I will be there in April for a week, and will do my best to work through the entire list. Thank you!
Dudes! Where have you been? I have been to Guadalajara twice in the past 4 months and have left feeling pissed off. First let me set the stage. I am from Detroit (a white guy) but speak ZERO spanish and had never been to Mexico before. Each time I went I was there for 1 night only.
First time I stayed at Holiday Inn in downtown. By the time my meetings got finished and I got checked into the hotel room it was 8PM. Was hoping that my locals would leave me alone and let me find some good spots but they stayed to have dinner with me. Which did absolutely nothing for me. As soon as they left I was out the door looking for trouble. After walking around downtown for several hours and not finding one damn place I resorted to the yellow pages back at the hotel room. I had to use the shotgun approach until I found someone who spoke a little English. I told them I wanted small and petite. 45 minutes later a guy and a woman appear at the door. I had to pay the bastard to leave so I could be alone with the sub-par lady. It was late and I was horney so I nailed her and sent her on her way. Total cost $1750 MXP. I know I got ripped off but hey where the hell were guys when I was looking for a piece?
Next trip was last week and I decided to try a different place. This time it was the Holiday Inn Select. Again it was 1 nighter and I did not get to the hotel until 7PM. I asked the taxi driver for Chicas but he did not have a clue what I was saying, or maybe I did not have clue what he was saying but either way I was not led to a piece of ass. I walked around the block or two looking for some action but did not find any. After the last experience I just went back to the room and crashed by 9PM. I am now going back next week for 2 nights. This time however I will be Aguascalientes. Can anyone provide some leads? I have no room reservations at this time. I need to stay on the north side of town.
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two things that i can suggest right away:
one, the first hi you stayed at was a good choice. what you may not have tried was discreetly asking one of the evening bellmen about some chicas. i had a couple offers last time i stayed there; they quoted 2000 pesos for the hour. while i think thats a bit high it does include "insurance" that you won't be hassled. it also helps if you tell them they'll get a nice tip. i usually give em 100 pesos depending on who they find. alternately, if you exit the hotel and go to the right, you end up on independencia where there are usually sg's to be found late afternoons and into the night. depending on your spanish and comfort level you might be able to negotiate bringing one back with you. naturally you would be targeting the better looking ones (less than 10% of whats out there) that are dressed neatly and doesnt look strung out.
if you go the escort route, they can always meet you in the bar on the second floor or, if it's early enough, at the coffee shop off the main lobby.
second: the hi select is a nice place but from what i have observed on numerous stays, a little more rigid with their rules on getting someone upstairs during late evening hours (other members please feel free to correct this if i am wrong). but don't despair!! it also happens to be in close walking distance (approx 1 km) to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and high class esteticas. if you have good rapport with your chosen chica you can ask for her number and arrange to have her meet you after work for a visit. theres also a good steakhouse restaurant next to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] if your workout works up an appetite!
all that said i will be in gdl next week and plan on partaking in some hot latina lovin!
Like I said, where were you before I went to Guadalajara?
Speaking ZERO and I mean ZERO spanish puts me at a huge disadvantage. While at the HI I must have walked 10km looking for a piece of ass. Maybe I just do not know how to approach the chicas but I came up with zero. The escort route really sucked but I did not have any problems getting the girl past the front and I did not tip. It took her alot longer than I thought for her to arrive. I did receive a fews calls regarding her arrival but I could not tell you if they were from the guy that delivered her or from the front desk of the HI. They guy that came to the door with here was not from HI. The girl was not really what I was looking for but but she had a pussy and I did not.
About the HIS, I did not know that I was so close to places that I have read you guys talking about. I asked the taxi driver and like I said, either I did not undertsand him or he did not understand me but I know I cleary asked him for Chicas. I did not walk around near as much while at this hotel as I was tired and the neighborhood looked to upscale to have such places. I must have walked in the wrong damn direction. I would agree that it would be very hard to get a girl past the front door at this place as they had no less than 4 bell boys standing there all night long.
Can anybody help with the scene in Aguascalientes? I will be there next week for 2 nights and would like to at know where to go for a piece before arriving and spinning my wheels.
Don't feel bad. My first trip to GDL I read the forum and thought I had it all figured out as well. *I* had no idea three esteticas (Jovi was open then too) were so close until I was headed back to the airport and the cab drove right past them. I also spent a lot of time exploring all the way to Minerva Circle and eventually down to centro- the opposite way from where I wanted to go. What helped me tremendously was the posts made here along with the Guia-Roji street map of GDL.
Just make sure to file all this info for the next time you go down and I can assure you a much better result than your previous trips.
MongerX,
Can you help with Aguascalientes?
Looks like I will be staying 30 minutes to the north of the airport at a place called "Los Trojes". Can anyone help?
K T
Thanks for the information. I broke out the Guia Roji and located the spots you mentioned. All in a pretty nice area and close enough to Santo Coyote for a good meal afterwards!
I picked up a copy of the little newspaper called 'Metro' yesterday (Friday). It has 3 or 4 pages of escorts and esteticas. I located a couple on Federalismo that I wanted to check out. One is called Sagittarious and is located at 376 Federalismo (at La Paz). The other is Alexander and is actually located on Morelos #776 (and Federalismo) only two shops off Federalismo next to the Pemex. There was a nice selection and good prices starting at 250mxn, completo! I then went downtown and played with the girls in the Centro. I love the selection around Parque Morelos! It was a beautiful warm spring day here in GDL with love in the air. Beats the wind, snow, and cold in the EEUU. Think I might head toward Calle 52 tonight. Happy Trails.
Hi Fellas!
I just find out this forum and it is pretty cool, Ive lived all my life here in Guad and I think is not fair for you (Foreign visitors) to pass through a hell to have nice chicas fun here in town, there for I will like to offer you my help in this matter, just IM me or send me an email or at this forum I can help you with places, prices, risk and stuff, I do this for fun and I hope I can have the same support when I visit any where out of Guad.
Disclaimer: I dont own or handle any of this business, am employee on an international company and because of that I have a lot of experience in business hang outs for fun.
Later
Thanks Native for the 'offer' to help. But first of all you need to be able to receive private messages. I'd love to meet you and talk about the many other 'opportunities' available here in beautiful Guadalajara!
[QUOTE=Ken Tucky]Thanks Native for the 'offer' to help. But first of all you need to be able to receive private messages. I'd love to meet you and talk about the many other 'opportunities' available here in beautiful Guadalajara![/QUOTE]Am able to do so, I will wait for you.
Regards
[QUOTE=Fire This]Hi Fellas!
I just find out this forum and it is pretty cool, Ive lived all my life here in Guad and I think is not fair for you (Foreign visitors) to pass through a hell to have nice chicas fun here in town, there for I will like to offer you my help in this matter, just IM me or send me an email or at this forum I can help you with places, prices, risk and stuff, I do this for fun and I hope I can have the same support when I visit any where out of Guad.
Disclaimer: I dont own or handle any of this business, am employee on an international company and because of that I have a lot of experience in business hang outs for fun.
Later[/QUOTE]Fire this are there certain clubs that are better for a 1st timer in your city? I make my first visit in July and need some help.Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=DrBrew1]Fire this are there certain clubs that are better for a 1st timer in your city? I make my first visit in July and need some help.Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Dr Brew.
Certainly you can go to one of the best well SC in town, they are not cheap but you can find high end stuff and it's a very good training, the price is given back in security and comfortable facilities, take a cab to Candy's Club, the one near Galerias Mall (on Vallarta Ave) and a mile ahead you'll find DKlub those are good if you are going solo or without guidance.
Later
[QUOTE=Ken Tucky]I picked up a copy of the little newspaper called 'Metro' yesterday (Friday). It has 3 or 4 pages of escorts and esteticas. I located a couple on Federalismo that I wanted to check out. One is called Sagittarious and is located at 376 Federalismo (at La Paz). The other is Alexander and is actually located on Morelos #776 (and Federalismo) only two shops off Federalismo next to the Pemex. There was a nice selection and good prices starting at 250mxn, completo! I then went downtown and played with the girls in the Centro. I love the selection around Parque Morelos! It was a beautiful warm spring day here in GDL with love in the air. Beats the wind, snow, and cold in the EEUU. Think I might head toward Calle 52 tonight. Happy Trails.[/QUOTE]Hey Ken Tucky, if you are going to go back to those parlors I recommend Paulina. She's kind of dark and works at Sagittarius now (used to work at Alexander, both belong to the same owner). She isn't the hottest girl in Guad, but she is the best looking one in those clubs and gives really killer service. She is down to meet up afterwards too for $200 or $400 pesos.
Good luck, and post a report.
Cheers,
Coahuila
Hey all I am here in guad and am looking to take my buddy to a estecia but I am not sure where the best ones are. I am in chapala so I need to have the address so at least I could look it up on a map since I am not familiar with the city but I am fluent in spanish so thats helps alot. Any help would be great.
Thanks
[quote=uvlguy]hey all i am here in guad and am looking to take my buddy to a estecia but i am not sure where the best ones are. i am in chapala so i need to have the address so at least i could look it up on a map since i am not familiar with the city but i am fluent in spanish so thats helps alot. any help would be great.
thanks[/quote]hey dude,
here is the info of the esteticas accd to my experience those has the better quality, let me know if you need further info....
alex: av. arcos 876. costo:1,000
select: av. la paz 2546 tel:1204-9004 y 3563-6503. costo:1000-1100
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]: av. lazaro lardenas xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx costo: 1100 aprox
eduars: golfo de cortes 2876 a 1 cuadra de la minerva
jet set: av. mexico entre americas y chapultepec.
world mens: pedro moreno 1701? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx a 2 cuadras de americas
high class: lazaro cardenas entre lopez mateos y los arcos del milenio. 3122-0540. costo: 450
christopher: hidalgo 1758 3616-9173.
cassandra: bernardo de balbuena 287 a 2 cuadras de av. mexico y a 1 de lopez mateos. 3615-2894 costo $400-450.
palacio real: (en “remodelacion” y por abrir ya) lopez cotilla 1537 y entre americas y chapultepec. 3630-4836.costo x reapertura $400.
aristos: plan de san luis a media cuadra de circunvalacion (ubicate: cerca de la glorieta colon)
monsieur: lopez mateos 123 frente a sport city, cerca de la minerva
mediterraneo: niños heroes. frente a la nissan y hotel carlton. 2 cuadras de 16 de septiembre.
nombre=?: av. federalismo a media cuadra de plan de san luis.
kassandra: lopez mateos 1623 cerca av. las rosas. costo: 450 aprox.
nombre=?: av. la paz 2155 esq. gral san martin.(esta a medio nivel abajo del nivel de la calle) costo $800.00
Hi to all,
Since my last posting — asking for mongering info for the Lake Chapala area — got no response (which tells me things really are as dead as I thought at Lakeside), let me try this instead.
Has anyone had any experience, positive or negative, with AdultFriendFinder? Some of the chicas appearing there look really hot, and I'm wondering if they are authentic independents or rip-offs (fronts for agencies, etc.), or something else. Any guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Didn't have as much time to check out the esteticas that Ken mentioned in an earlier post so my last night in GDL I opted to call out for room service. Chose Prestige as it was recommended earlier in the forum.
Called in the afternoon to set things up for later that evening, the mms was not fluent in English but between her English and my Spanish we did fine. Called back later that evening to confirm and the evening mms spoke perfect English and said that she was waiting for my confirmation. Price quoted was $1500MN for 90 minutes plus $150 MN for the taxi afterwards.
She described Valeria and I gave the OK. I also suggested that she meet me in the restaurant/bar but was told it should be early enough for there not to be a problem with hotel security. Well the mms should have listened to me; after 45 min a call came from the front desk where I was asked to come down and meet my lady (after the requisite paperwork). The poor girl looked horrified and I couldn't say I blamed her. She was dreesed in a nice conservative black business pants suit, minimal make up, nothing to indicate why she was there.
I played it off- greeted her like an old friend- and we retired back to my room.
Valeria said she was 25 years old, one kid and is about 5"2 nice dark hair just past her shoulders with reddish hilights. First there was some hugging and cuddling, light kisses and little Monger was getting excited! She took off her jacket to reveal a lacy bra that held her perky 34 B's. We got her out of her sexy lingerie and I started by giving her a light massage that took her by surprise but she really enjoyed. I started kissing her and worked my way down to a nice shaved Y with a neat little landing strip. Just above the strip was a c-scar but not all that noticeable. I asked if she liked DATY and was given the go ahead and proceeded to devour her for the next hour until she said it was my turn. She began with a nice BBBJ giving lots of attention to lil Monger and his twin brothers, really getting into what she was doing. She got me close a couple times and when I thought I was finally gonna lose control we stopped for a few minutes to let things simmer down. Got the cover that I had left for her on the nightstand and we went through CG, RCG, ACG, doggie and finally mish where I couldn't hold back any longer. I got a couple towels and cleaned us both up and gave her another massage- she wanted to curl up and sleep- so we did for a little while. She got up and called the agency and from the look on her face it seemed like they were not too happy she had gone over the alotted time. We dressed real quick and I walked her out through the lobby (like an old friend) where her driver was waiting just down from the hotel.
All in all it was an excellent service and I have no problem recommending it to anyone here. Only thing I would suggest is to insist to the mms that the lady meet you in the bar if its after 7PM to avoid any uncomfortable circumstances for her.
Hit another jackpot yesterday thanks to these nice guys who posted lists of esteticas recently. However, I absolutely could not find Barba Azul, although I did a square search on foot all around the intersection of Vallarta and Calderon de la Barca. I did locate Griegos (1790 Lopez Cotilla, north side of the street just east of Ave. America) and Luigi at 1882 Lopez Cotilla.
Went in to Luigi and was greeted by Adriana who took me directly to a smallish but clean room. I didn't ask to see anyone else because she looked just about perfect to me! The price was right. 450 for half, 650 for full hour. I took the half and at first she gave a very firm massage, then switched to very light strokes teasing around the balls a bit, and I could tell she was at least topless by this time because I could feel her nipples on my back as she leaned over me.
When I rolled over she removed her thong, and I have to say she is just about the best built I've ever seen. Maybe 5'4 to 5'6, 36C with no hint of chubbiness. She started with a CBJ, then took my hand and had me stroke her pussy for a while, then got on for some energetic CG and finishing "ratito"
Highly recommended!
[QUOTE=Moby Dav]Hit another jackpot yesterday thanks to these nice guys who posted lists of esteticas recently. However, I absolutely could not find Barba Azul, although I did a square search on foot all around the intersection of Vallarta and Calderon de la Barca. I did locate Griegos (1790 Lopez Cotilla, north side of the street just east of Ave. America) and Luigi at 1882 Lopez Cotilla.
Went in to Luigi and was greeted by Adriana who took me directly to a smallish but clean room. I didn't ask to see anyone else because she looked just about perfect to me! The price was right. 450 for half, 650 for full hour. I took the half and at first she gave a very firm massage, then switched to very light strokes teasing around the balls a bit, and I could tell she was at least topless by this time because I could feel her nipples on my back as she leaned over me.
When I rolled over she removed her thong, and I have to say she is just about the best built I've ever seen. Maybe 5'4 to 5'6, 36C with no hint of chubbiness. She started with a CBJ, then took my hand and had me stroke her pussy for a while, then got on for some energetic CG and finishing "ratito"
Highly recommended![/QUOTE]It is funny how the esteticas charge you more just because you're american, when a native goes there they offer you 450 for full hour and 650 for 2 girls, I guess is better to go with good company.
[QUOTE=Fire This]It is funny how the esteticas charge you more just because you're american, when a native goes there they offer you 450 for full hour and 650 for 2 girls, I guess is better to go with good company.[/QUOTE]Actually, I'm not Mexican - blond hair, blue eyes, very limited Spanish, and not young and good-looking. I wasn't offered two girls for 650 at Luigi - the difference in price, as she explained to me, was whether I wanted one or two "ejaculationes". I think I'm a bit old for two in one hour!
Hi,
I'm totally new to both this forum and the whole scene in general. I'm living in GDL at the moment and next week I'm gonna get some action going on. I've read a big part of this thread but I still have a couple of questions, which I hope someone could answer:
1. At this stage, I'm only looking for a massage and a handjob (so no actual sex), what would be the correct price for this service in the esteticas?
2. When I enter the esteticas, how does the deal go down? Do I just directly ask for what I'm looking for or is there some "code language" in use etc.? Also, do I pay before or after the service?
Thanks for help!
Double Dong,
Please do keep us posted. I am not sure when yet but believe that within the next 30 days I will be visiting Guadalajara. I have been there twice before and have not had good luck. Mostly becasue I do not speak any spanish.
Would love to meet up and monger together after you have scoured the land.
When I visit I have satyed at the Holdiay Inn downtown and the Holiday Inn Select. From what I have read, there are a couple of spots near the Holiday Inn Select but to be honest I had no luck there. Not as much to see in that area and I probably quit looking too soon.
The downtown area was neat because it was full of people. No luck finding anything in that area but I know they were there. I spent a good deal of time walking around which was not all that bad.
[QUOTE=Mou7189]Double Dong,
Please do keep us posted. I am not sure when yet but believe that within the next 30 days I will be visiting Guadalajara. I have been there twice before and have not had good luck. Mostly becasue I do not speak any spanish.
Would love to meet up and monger together after you have scoured the land.
When I visit I have satyed at the Holdiay Inn downtown and the Holiday Inn Select. From what I have read, there are a couple of spots near the Holiday Inn Select but to be honest I had no luck there. Not as much to see in that area and I probably quit looking too soon.
The downtown area was neat because it was full of people. No luck finding anything in that area but I know they were there. I spent a good deal of time walking around which was not all that bad.[/QUOTE]Hey Mou
Let me know when you are in guad, I can help you, read some of my previous posts....
Regards
Looks like I may be there from the 23rd to the 25th of this month. In all likelihood I will be staying at the Holiday Inn Select. Not sure which night I may be able to monger but will let you know and perhaps we could meet in the lobby?
i was reading the forum on divas.com.mx today, which is mainly for higher end escorts in mexico city although there are some posters from guadalajara too. anyway, there was one review by a monger who paid 3500 pesos for an hour with a hooker named pammela in guadalajara -- she did upsell him -- it was only 2500 then she jacked it up by 1000 for extra services like bbbj. another by someone who frequents the men's club in gdl, and says arranging a date with a woman there will run you 5000 plus, but it's worth every penny. and that's typical -- lowest priced service in gdl i read about was 1200 at an estetica (500 for massage only double dong -- probably at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]), and there was mention of a madam who had hot girls for 3000 to 3500. anyway, it's not the stupid gringos like me that are running the prices up in mexico. it's the stupid mexicans.
Me thinks I smell a rat! Por favor! Por Favor! DO NOT PAY!!! There is NOT A woman on the planet worth those prices!! Putang is expensive in SOME places in GDL, but POR FAVOR! Please DO NOT pay those prices. I've listed and listed and listed places where you can get good service for 400mxn. I've even listed several places where you can get 'it' for 200.
And MOU, I just don't understand you. You stayed downtown and couldn't find any? Give me a break! 2 weeks in Augascalientes and you couldn't get laid there either? Son, either you just ain't trying or you got some kind of a major defect! Even if you CAN'T speak a lick of Spanish, there are women all over the place looking for action in downtown GDL. Morning, Noon and Night!
Sorry, I think the GDL ISG post may be filled with 'promoters' or 'cons.' I KNOW that Divas.com is! Don't even go there Tiny. Experienced mongers know better.
Kentucky,
Part of the issue in my opinion is that I arrived at 10PM and had tp leave the hotel by 5Am the next morning to catch my flight. I had only a bried perioed of time to search for a piece of ass. Perhaps I walked in the wrong direction from the hotel? You claim these women are everywhere and that I should have been able to find them even though I did not speak Spanish? I guess I would ask you how I would know which girls are looking and which ones aren't? Was I supposed to walk up to them and ask them if they wanted to suck my dick or perhaps just grab their tits? You must also understand that this was my FIRST visit to Mexcio. I did not want to do anything that would land me in jail or get me killed.
As for Aguascalientes, I think you misunderstood my post. I stated that in two weeks I would be there, not there for 2 weeks. I was faced with the same senario when there as I arrived at 10PM and had a 6AM flight.
You have listed places yes but I have no idea where these places are at. Street names mean nothing to me my friend. I come from a small town in the states that does not even have a flashing light.
You are killing me MOU. Listen, IF you are a ISG member then send me a pm and I'll be glad to take your hand and show you all the lovely pieces of ass in downtown GDL. If you are NOT a ISG member, then just ask the people at your hotel how to get to Morelos Park. I'm SUUUUURRRE that they speak English at your hotel. Most everyone in GDL speaks a little English. It's a great town.
I am not a member so I will not be able to PM. Once my travle plans are set I will post and perhaps you or anyone that wants to meet up, we can make arrangements to meet in the hotel lobby.
Oh, come on, Ken Tucky! Cut us some slack, will ya. You really should understand that not everybody are experienced, hard-boiled perverts like you who can spot a working girl miles away. I mean, I speak fluent Spanish and I've been living in Mexico for a few years now but since I've never had any contact with this kind "business" and thus I have absolutely no idea which girls walking the streets of downtown GDA are there "looking for action" and which are not. I mean, how am I supposed to know if they're giving me the eye because I just happen to be a good-looking blonde guy or because they are looking for a client? What's the difference, you tell me. Also, like Mou asked, how do you proceed? And in his case he doesn't even speak Spanish. So, you go to Morelos Park and then what? You stand there looking like a complete idiot and wait for someone to come up to you or do you start chatting the girls up in English asking "how much"?
Yeah, it might be easy for you but you have to take into consideration that people come from different backgrounds and experiences. So laugh all you want but unless you give some useful advice you might just as well shut up. Thanks.
PS. Personally, I'm not looking for any "real action".
Holly crap, I joined this forum to see if I can get an upgrade in my escort list, I haven't read all the posts yet, but for the last couple of them all I can infer is people fighting over where to find more girls! Come on guys this is a forum not an arena. And please for the guy who said that the stupid mexicans like me are inflating the chicas market, then you should not look further than Parque morelos and the Zona gigantes area because theres the place to find chicas ranging 50 to 500 pesos! I'm use to pay for a good and fresh 100 pounder girl at a nice estetica 1000 to 1200 pesos, not the prettiest ones. If I want something better and prettier kinda a tapatia fresa I'll pay more than that, if I want a real doll with a pretty face then theres some Divas in town and the fare goes up to 2000-2500, and yes there are girls that are much more expensive than that, I'm sorry in this life everything has a price, and in which world do you guys live that you think you are going to find a 10 for 500 pesos! I know that everybody has different tastes but it shouldn't be a huge difference when some one rates a girl, 1 to 10 is not that hard!
If this forum is mostly Americans visiting GDL then ya'll should be able to pay 100-120 usd for a nice girl.
And please don't misunderstand me I know how much a nice chica is worth and I don't like to give away my money, I've sent back more chicas than you can imagine and even without paying the "Taxi" fare, if they are offering me something then they gotta stick to it. Its very usual for some people to pay 900-1200 pesos for something that its worth 500 or less but it seems when the Testosterone is kicking nobody says NO!
I think I've rejected about 85% percent of the girls that I've been sent in the past 5 years, and I know thats a lot of money wasted in Motels but I personally like to score with good looking girls and make my money worth every cent. Now I've a list of a really few girls that I would say are worth what they charge, and I'm trying to expand that list by joining this forum.
I hope I didn't offend anybody with my post, feel free to PM me or ask me about chicas and I would glady give you pointers in this beautifull GDL!
Saludos
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Ken Tucky, at first I had about the same opinion as you did about Mou, but after re-reading his post, I think I see where he's coming from. If you're mongering in Guadalajara during daytime, there's no excuse. If you've done your research on this board and maybe the yellow pages, you should have a list of esteticas and know the prices. You show the taxi driver the name and the address and he takes you there.
But Mou has been trying to monger after 10:00 PM. I've been to Guadalajara maybe 20 times (admittedly not always mongering), and until your groundbreaking research wasn't aware that there are cost effective, good quality late night options. I confined myself to the esteticas because I didn't want to blow two or three hundred dollars getting laid at a high-end strip club and wasn't satisfied with the quality at the lower end clubs. And I didn't want to wake up tired and with a hangover the next day.
Mou, I'd suggest you read the thread. Pay attention to Ken Tucky's posts. He's probably a little short with you because he's already answered your questions in his posts.
Double Dong,
You don't have to worry about using any code language. I've never gone into a Mexican massage parlor looking for a hand job, but I'd guess you'd pay $20 to $50 for the massage and $10 to $30 tip for the hand job. Odds are someone will speak English at the estetica, especially the better ones, and you can get their numbers from yellow pages and call ahead to make sure if you want. Or, print this out, take it to the estetica, and point to the appropriate phrase.
Quiero una hora. (I want an hour)
Quiero media hora (I want half an hour.)
No quiero sexo. Solo quiero un masaje. (I don't want sex. I only want a massage.)
Cuanto cuesta? Escribalo aqui. (How much does it cost? Write it here.)
Si la chica me mastubara, cuanto mas costaria? Escribalo aqui. (If the woman masturbates me, how much more would it cost? Write it here.)
Senorita, cuanto cobrarias por masturbarme? Esribalo aqui. (Miss, how much would you charge to masturbate me? Write it here.)
And your question about when to pay -- it's normally up front for the complete service, including sex. But given that you just want a massage with hand job, you might try paying for the massage and then negotiating a tip with the woman for the hand job.
Seems there are some real idiots here that need to take a chill pill!
We are brother pooners that need to get along, not fight each other.
Wow! I can only hope that the rest of Mexico is as friendly as you have been.
When I say I speak zero spanish I mean I speak zero spanish. Try egtting around in a city where yoo do not speak the native tounge and see how far you get. Now try that in a foreign country. I live in Detroit and have learned to get around some of the toughest parts of the city. I consider myself pretty good at reading people know all of the spots in the city to get laid. I am no rookie at this.
I guess maybe next time I will just take a sign with me that says 'LOOKING FOR PUSSY" and stand in downtown Guadalajara until either a chic comes along or I get dragged away by the police. What are the jails like in Mexico? Do I get a phone call? If I do, can I make international calls? How much is bond? Do they accept credit cards? How long before I see a judge? There are judges right?
Thanks for the tips....errrrrr I mean thanks for advice......errr I mean thanks for nothing.
[QUOTE=Mou7189]Wow! I can only hope that the rest of Mexico is as friendly as you have been.
When I say I speak zero spanish I mean I speak zero spanish. Try egtting around in a city where yoo do not speak the native tounge and see how far you get. Now try that in a foreign country. I live in Detroit and have learned to get around some of the toughest parts of the city. I consider myself pretty good at reading people know all of the spots in the city to get laid. I am no rookie at this.
I guess maybe next time I will just take a sign with me that says 'LOOKING FOR PUSSY" and stand in downtown Guadalajara until either a chic comes along or I get dragged away by the police. What are the jails like in Mexico? Do I get a phone call? If I do, can I make international calls? How much is bond? Do they accept credit cards? How long before I see a judge? There are judges right?
Thanks for the tips....errrrrr I mean thanks for advice......errr I mean thanks for nothing.[/QUOTE]Hey Mou. Whats up. I live in GDL and can help you out when you come here. Is there any way to contact you other than this medium? Due to my job. Which I believe is in the same industry as yours. It has to be private. I'm assuming you are either a Sales Manager or engineer in the Electronic industry here. I work with managers for my accounts that come and visit the city and know exactly what you mean when you say you have to go to dinners that you don't want to. Etc. Etc. Let me know if you got a way to contact you Privately. I can help you out when you come this way.
[quote=anonimo gdl] and please for the guy who said that the stupid mexicans like me are inflating the chicas market[/quote]
sorry anonimo, i didn't intend to insult you or your paisanos. on this web site, i've been called a stupid gringo and accused of driving up the price of pussy several times. a few examples --
$400 for 5 hours with an argentine diva in d.f. i'd say she was a girlfriend experience except that she treated me much better than my girlfriend -- even cleaning the puke off my face (i was drunk and got sick) before she gave me a blow job.
$350 for toda la noche with drop dead, beautiful, model-looking colombianas from a brothel in panama
$300 to pay for brain surgery for a hooker in colombia. (well, o.k., maybe i really am a stupid gringo.)
in every instance, except the brain surgery, i thought the money was well spent, and a lot cheaper than what i'd pay in the u.s. there are people here, though, who believe inflation in the price of poontang is solely because sex tourists and foreign businessmen are driving up the price. but that's not the case at all. as you know, there are a lot more wealthy, free-spending mexicans in guadalajara than estadounidenses, japanese, etc. some of these people can drop $1000 or $2000 in a gentlemen's club or $300 or $400 on a hooker and never miss it. and i don't really think they're stupid. i think $350 spent on a hooker makes a lot more sense than, say $5000 spent on a rolex watch. my point was, it's not the gringos that determine the price of pussy in mexico (or panama or colombia), it's the mexicans (and panamanians, colombians, etc.).
[quote=mou7189]
when i say i speak zero spanish i mean i speak zero spanish. try egtting around in a city where yoo do not speak the native tounge and see how far you get. [/quote]
mou, anybody who gets into town at 10:00 pm and leaves at 6:00 am is going to have it tough. but you're not going to have that problem next time. again, just read the thread, you'll find addresses and phone numbers here for some places, and you can always use the yellow pages when you get here. look under "esteticas masculinas" for the massage parlors and "clubes nocturnos" for the strip clubs. you'll know the prices from looking at the thread so you shouldn't get screwed. i've been to places before where nobody spoke english and i didn't speak the local language, and still had a good time. true, it's better and easier when you can speak the language, but you'll still do fine. write the name, address and phone number of the place where you want to go on a piece of paper and give it to the taxi driver. have a pen and paper handy to negotiate price in case you're talking to someone who doesn't speak english.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] might be a good place to get your feet wet. it's more expensive than ken tucky's picks, but clean, consistent, they won't screw you, and english is spoken. i'll be in town part of the 24th and the 25th and might be able to get away for a few hours. so now you've got two potential guides, but you'll need to sign up and pay $19.95 to isg so you can get pm's and we can get your contact info.
[quote=double dong]i speak fluent spanish and i've been living in mexico for a few years now [/quote]
double dong, sorry, i got you confused with mou in previous post -- normally i wouldn't try to give spanish and culture lessons to someone who knows both better than me.
trip has been bumped up and i will be in guadalajara for only one evening, the 16th of this month. as usual, i probably will not have much time.
to galaxxy.....your assumptions are close. i am a sales manager but for a japanese automotive supplier. i arrive at noon and by the time my meetings are done and i get back to the hotel (i chose the holiday inn in downtown) it probably will be 7pm. not sure how i will get out of dinner but i will figure out a way. so if anybody want to join me for a beer or two and chase the pussy around, meet me in the lobby at 7:30pm of the holiday inn on juarez. i should not be that hard to find as i will be one of the only gringo's there by themselves wearing wranglers.
i chose downtown versus the holiday inn select as i want places within walking distance. i also like the reports of the ladies on the streets of independencia. i will start there. i am not sure i want to try having one sent to my room without knowing what they look like. i am always so horney that by the time they get there no matter how fat, ugly or fat and ugly they are i always let them in. i have printed out maps and previous posts so i will have a report next week for all. worst case i will find my way to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]
$400 for 5 hours with an Argentine diva in D.F. I'd say she was a girlfriend experience except that she treated me much better than my girlfriend -- even cleaning the puke off my face (I was drunk and got sick) before she gave me a blow job.
[/QUOTE]
Ah, Ayelén. Those were the days.
Too bad she can't enter Mexico now.
Henry, Good to hear from you, you haven't been posting recently.
Yes, Mexico misses Ayelen, and I'm sure Ayelen misses Mexico. The last I heard she was in Buenos Aires, earning about 30% of what she was making in Mexico. I think she charges 200 Argentine pesos for an hour, or about US$60.
This is a bit off-topic but do you guys have any idea if you can buy Cialis etc. from the farmacies (such as Farmacias Guadalajara) in Mexico without a prescription? A friend back home claims that you can and he's telling me to bring him some but before going to the farmacy to embarass myself I'd like to know what's the deal?
Tiny 12 I wasnt really offended its really hard to offend a Mexican I was just being dramatic, we don't belive in being politically correct here. Double Dong you can buy viagra, Cialis, Xanax, Diazepam, syringes etc from any drugstore without prescription, just walk into the store and ask for a pack of cialis, and thats it.
But I would hesitate about going to Farmacias GDL, they belong to a fellow highschool buddy and his family and they are really into the Opus Dei and they don't sell condoms and other birth control methods, believe it or not this shit still happens in 2008!
[quote=mou7189] worst case i will find my way to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].[/quote]
suggest you call ahead and make sure they'll be open. i suspect they'd close around 9:00 or 10:00 pm, but really don't know.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Henry, Good to hear from you, you haven't been posting recently.
Yes, Mexico misses Ayelen, and I'm sure Ayelen misses Mexico. The last I heard she was in Buenos Aires, earning about 30% of what she was making in Mexico. I think she charges 200 Argentine pesos for an hour, or about US$60.[/QUOTE]
Well, I'm semiretired from this hobby.
Part of the reason is the high prices you mention.
Just returned from my trip to GDL and have a different view on the place now. In the past, my mongering has beeb limited to opening the yellow pages and just shotgunning the places that offer messages until I get someone who speaks English. Every time I have been disappointed with the girl that arrived and always paid 1500 PESO for the girl and had to tip the guy with her as well. I should have turned them away but I wanted a piece of ass and they were there so I always went for it. This time, I arrived earlier than I had in the past. I checked into the Holiday Inn on Juarez arounf 5:30PM istead of the usual 10:00PM. This worked out great! After traveling all day I needed a nice walk. I had printed out a ton of the posts on this site and taken them with me for reference. On the way to the hotel I saw the Mission Carlton and remembered seeing a post that ssaid there was some action right acrossed the street. So after checking in and changing into some clothes that would allow me to blend in a bit, I headed out for a little walk. I found the Med Eseticas and walked in. It was just like previous posts have indicated. I speak ZERO spanish and there was only one grl who spoke very little english but she knew what I was there for. They put me on a couch and the girls paraded by one by one. I chose Katia. Probably in here early 20's and small. Cost was 480 PESO, I actually gaver her 500 and was so pleased with the price I totally forgot to ask for change. Tatia spoke ZERO english so we had trouble communicating. I guess I should have known that she knew what I was there for. When we went into our room she kept motioning her hand toward her mouth and saying something. All I could tell was that it was a question. Now my past at "massage" parlors in the north is that they ALWAYS upsell. They get you in the room and if want this it is extra and if you want that it is extra. I just assumed that what she was motioning for was if I wanted her to suck my cock. I did the same motion she did only with a more detail. My hand was cupped more and when my hand approaced my mouth I put my tounge in my cheeck. She got a good laugh out that one and then I realized what she was asking if I wanted something to drink, which I accpeted.
Anyway, when we got down to business she sucked my cock for a bit and then we proceeded to have at it. She was very willing and I fucked her in several positions. Total time I spent with her was probably around 20 minutes and TOTAL COST. 500 PESO.
No GFE experience from her but I really don't understand why anyone would want GFE. I mean there is a reason I don't a GF. I can't stand to listen to them. All I want is a piece of ass. I could care less what the conversation is.
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I was in a new restaurant and club this weekend, De Santos, that might be interesting if you're into nonpros and know the language. It's in Zapopan on Avenida Patria close to Acueducto. Upstairs there's a bar that seems to attract a younger crowd that might be O.K. if you're Coahuila's age. For people who are a little older and know the language, the first floor looked more promising. We had a booth right next to the first floor bar. I was eating dinner with a group so not looking but did have a chance to observe. During the four hours I was there, I noticed three young, attractive women, around 22-30, that were taken out by older guys, around 40 to 50. The food and the music were good and there was lots and lots of eye candy.
Since most of you are using taxis while in Guadalajara, here are some important notes about the prices. This is copied from Wikitravel, where I just edited the Gdl taxi information. Remember not to pay the ridiculous prices the drivers ask for at first!
Taxis are another option if you don't want to try to figure out the buses. You can either agree to a price with the cab driver or ask him to turn the meter on. Using the latter option, there is a risk that driver doesn't the take the shortest possible route if he thinks you don't know it yourself. As always, be sure to ask the fare before you get in. Cabs cost more at night or when they have to cross the outer ring of the city. Day-time fares should never exceed 100 pesos within the city and almost always the price should be even under 50 pesos. The drivers almost always quote a ridiculously high price for foreigners but you just have to be persistent. At night-time, the prices are doubled. As a rule of thumb, at day-time the fare is about 3-4 pesos per kilometer and at night about 8-9 pesos but if the driver is using a meter, there's also a starting price of around 5-10 pesos.
Fares for the airport are set. If arriving at the Guadalajara airport, a taxi monopoly provides the service (about 200 pesos for service to the Centro Historico) from the airport. Pre-purchase your taxi ride at the booths outside of the arrival halls. You can take a normal taxi to the airport, though. The price is around 150-200 pesos depending on where you are coming from.
Any recommended esteticas near Av. Vallarta & Av. Patria (the hotel Arboledas Galarias)?
gringo8, i don't know anything in that immediate vicinity -- you'll need to go back to the east, towards the center of town but it will be a short drive, maybe 10 minutes. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and hi class are a straight shot down lazaro cardenas, which y's off of vallarta. i recommend [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] for quality and consistency although price is high (1200 pesos for an hour). do a search on "minerva". the glorieta minerva is east of your location on vallarta, and someone did a review on esteticas near there a few months back. it's also a reasonably short cab ride away. in that area, eduars historically has had a good reputation although i haven't been there or read anything about it in a long time.
[quote=tiny 12]gringo8, i don't know anything in that immediate vicinity -- you'll need to go back to the east, towards the center of town but it will be a short drive, maybe 10 minutes. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and hi class are a straight shot down lazaro cardenas, which y's off of vallarta. i recommend [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] for quality and consistency although price is high (1200 pesos for an hour). do a search on "minerva". the glorieta minerva is east of your location on vallarta, and someone did a review on esteticas near there a few months back. it's also a reasonably short cab ride away. in that area, eduars historically has had a good reputation although i haven't been there or read anything about it in a long time.[/quote]i as a local man agree with tiny 12. in my experience of esteticas i can tell you that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is on of the best (if dont the best) that i have known.
by the way if you like the semi pros girls, try downtown in the plaza tapatia where it is a monument called quetzalcoatl (something like that)
wach the wood benchs around that place, and you will see several young females discretionly waiting for a customers. no expensive and good job (them)
Nice tip Carrigni, thanks, and I hope you'll post more here in the future.
[QUOTE=Carrigni]Wach the wood benchs around that place, and you will see several young females discretionly waiting for a customers. No Expensive and good Job (them)[/QUOTE]
I was at a “table dance” club in Guadalajara last Friday. Around 4:00 AM, woman nearest to me, at the next table, part of a group, asked for my drink (rum & coke).
I let her take it, but she didn’t drink. Buried it in her chest, and her and boyfriend seemed “busy” with it.
Without either drinking, she handed it back to me. Then she began turning around every 10 seconds, for a few minutes, to see if I had drank.
I was pretty drunk, but never stupid, and never touched that glass again. Offered it to the woman with me, but she preferred her beer. Got another drink, and wished I’d had a sample bottle with me, to submit that drink for testing, but…….
Better safe than sorry. The signs of an adulterated drink were too clear for me.
Club was Las Penas, Periferico sur, next to Execs (a much better club).
Always watch your drinks, specially if you’re alone.
Unboicot I'm glad to hear that nothing else happened.
But let me ask you something how in the name of the lord did you venture to those places? , not even a Mexican with many years of experience in Zonas Rojas, clubs, parlours, teibols you name it would go there. Those places are poor, filthy, full of gordas and in sketchy zones of the city, if you go there you are asking for trouble. I stopped going to "tables dance" becasue I always felt insecure, and yes I'm a mexican, if I have to go to one table dance the minimum place acceptable on my list would be one of the Juniors and with some reservations that place is still cheap but you might find some hidden jewels sometimes, I rather go to the golden paradise, Dklub or candys girls, and still always on my guard because you never know. 15 days ago and after a year of tables retirement I decided to give it a try again, and went to Candys club in Av Vallarta, cover is 100 pesos and includes a "sexy" or lapdance with any girl and like any other club all the staff is really annoying they always want tips even for showing you where the bathroom is, just say no, that later you are going to tip them or that you don't have cash. I was really suprised by the quality of the girls they have in there, I hook up with one named "sabrina" its a cute girl white skin, beautifull face, green eyes, and a perfect natural body, no silicon the real stuff. I invited her a drink, 200 pesos I think, chated for a while, used my free lap dance with her and then I decided to hit the " full privado" 20 minutes of sex for 2200, wich was a really good investment, because I got a really good sex with a girl that looks like my Gf and that I could take with me to dinner to any restaurant, to my parents house, or with my friends to vango or any other club and she would fit in perfectly shes educated and I think she got some undergrad title, she used to be a model but got tired of her bosses to persuade her to do more than modeling as always happens in that bussines, and got hooked by the easy money and decided to work in a "teibol". We had a really good chemistry so she have me her real name and phone number without even asking for it. And now I'm enjoying of a new friend and good fuck without a compromise, and for free, well I got to take her first to Santo Coyote to have some drinks and dinner. So fellow troopers I would highly recommend you to dare to invest a few bucks more (around 300usd) a night in a nicer place and hook up with a nice lady, and then you can get a real bombshell to fuck anytime you are back in GDL, probably you might not be as lucky as I was that night because I've to humble admit theres a good chemistry between us, but you can gain a girls confidence and phone number and they will agree to see you at your hotel or motel and charge you half of the price that the club charges for 20 min in a privado but you get a really nice piece of ass. There is no point in expending 700-1000 pesos per hour with a "good looking" escort (testosterone makes us see the hidden beauty in every woman), when you can pay 1200 up to 2000 depending on the girl and yur skills for a real godess. And thats in Candys club, I've gone before to Golden but that place is more expensive, 5000 pesos for a 30 min privado, but there is more good looking girls, and there are some from south america, but thats another story.
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[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Nice tip Carrigni, thanks, and I hope you'll post more here in the future. [/QUOTE]Your welcome tiny12. The main reason that I don't post too much, is that my writing english it is no so extended, so very often I have to use the dictionary.
But anyway I'll do my best to give any information about this city.
By theway, respect to the post of Anonimo GDL, I don't know what do you Think, but for me, to pay 200 or 300 USD for a girl (except if the girl has: angel face, venus body, and Youth) it's a lot of money. If we thinking in girls of 8 or 9(for my tastes)? . I repeat, it's a lot a money. He say they are from south America, it is that the reason that they charge too much? . In thay case I would prefer travel to that countries y fuck for much less of that money with that kind of gilrs.
I've been in Cuba, and oh my god! You can really find a hot latinas with beautiful faces and bodies (9 or 10) and spend much less than 200, 300, or 450 USD by session.
Ano,
I had trouble finding a pieve of ass when I first started making trips to GDL. But I never paid 2200 for it. That is just crazy. And you claim to be a local? Visitors don't need your help finding good places. They can go it alone and save $ over your suggestions. Hell, I don't even pay that pulling ass out of ANY strip club in Detroit. And why would you compare the girl to your GF? Isn't the whole point of this to get something different? If you like your GF then just go get it from her and save the 2200. Seems logical to me.
Just my opinion.
Carrigni, those girls that I'm talking about are mexicans and believe that I'm really picky in my taste, and I don't say you have to pay 200-300usd everytime, just one time to go to the club and get the contact with the girl after that if you are extremely lucky you can just invite her to eat and then get laid, if not you'll have to pay her a regular escort rate around 1200 pesos but 1200 in a true beauty that you have previously met, not more scams, not more gordas.
I won't pay 200-300 unless its one of the Divas true angels (not anymore) which by the way I've sent back 2 of them and lost the money I paid in the motel because they were the girls but in the page they appear airbrushed and photoshoped.
And Mou7189 I'm a Tapatio, and if you don't like my suggestions just don't take them. Stick to your 300-500 pesos esteticas that only have girls in the 2-4 range scale (out of 10) or 2 escorts by 700 pesos taxi included.
My point is if you have the money and I not mean waste your money, make some research digg a litle bit more and you can get really pretty tapatias for 1000-1200, but well I'm sure we have different tastes you might like to frequent esteticas like mediterraneo and I would never go there, and if you do go there then I respect your choice and your opinion, but don't facking tell me what to do or that I can't give my advice. In my 10+ years mongering experience I know I won't get what I want for less than 800 pesos, period.
And if I want to bone other girls rather than my GF and spend my money in pussy thats my problem.
Carrigni, your English is good, and I agree, the foreign prostitutes in Mexico charge too much. I have done what Anonimo did, pay big bucks for sex in a strip club, but only once in Guadalajara, in Ramses Mens Club. And it was worth it. The room was on the second level of the club, had glass windows and overlooked the stage. And the woman gave great service. But a much better strategy, suggested by Anonimo, is to get a woman's telephone number at the table dance club, and negotiate a lower price for after work or the next day.
Please note that Anonimo is now banging this woman for the cost of a meal and drinks at Santo Coyote. So maybe he paid too much the first night, but in the long run maybe he will do O.K.
and here i attach a couple of girls that imho are a good deal.
ericka from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], which is my favorite there shes a 6-7 in my scale, but her service excels a gfe and now i bang her outside [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] for 800 pesos a really nice deal.
the other one is alondra you can find her in the [url]http://sexoservidoras.net/escorts-en-guadalajara-jalisco.html[/url] page, and i think shes the only one there with real photos, she charges me 1000 pesos and its a really cute girl with a really nice body, sweet face, honey colored eyes, and fucks like a champ, she really enjoys giving you head and getting laid.
and yes like tiny12 said, i only paid that much once, and the next fucks only the price of a meal and the last time none, 0 pesos and at her place and that girl from candys is at another level, shes a solid 9 in my scale.
Maybe for some banging the chic for the cost of a meal is what you are after. But, for us that occosionally blow into town for a business trip, we do not want to put this much effort into banging a chic. We want a nice piece of ass at the cheapest price that we can get it at and when we are done we want the chic to leave, or we leave, and never see her again. If I wanted to bang the same chic over and over again I would get a GF and it would cost be less that price of a meal. I don't pay for meals when travelling!
i also had a hard time finding a piece of ass the first few times i visited guadalajara. either i arrived too late or i was with clients. last time there i had a good experience at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] however.
anyhow, thanks for all the good reports. they are very helpful for those of us who only have a day or two to explore.
btw, does anyone know where to score a piece of ass in aguascalientes? i am down there quite often. however, i have yet to have any luck in that town.
well anyhow, next week i'll be in europe (fkk clubs).
happy mongering
det. i would assume you are from detroit? if so, we must hook up as i too am from detroit and frequent both guadalajara and aguascalientes for work.
i will have to visit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] on my next visit to gdl.
as for aguascalientes. i have gotten zero help from this forum for finding a piece of ass there. i have not had good luck there on my own either. if you speak spanish you can use the local classifieds but i speak zero, and i mean zero spanish so it has been hit and miss for me. i stay on the north side of town at the hotel las trojes. very nice hotel but not for mongering. security very tight there but also very crooked as well. last time the security guy broke into the place to get my chic to the room. see my report in aguas. for the details. i have heard the downtown area is very nice and you may have better luck there.
keep me posted.
[quote=anonimo gdl]and here i attach a couple of girls that imho are a good deal.
ericka from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], which is my favorite there shes a 6-7 in my scale, but her service excels a gfe and now i bang her outside [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] for 800 pesos a really nice deal.
the other one is alondra you can find her in the [url]http://sexoservidoras.net/escorts-en-guadalajara-jalisco.html[/url] page, and i think shes the only one there with real photos, she charges me 1000 pesos and its a really cute girl with a really nice body, sweet face, honey colored eyes, and fucks like a champ, she really enjoys giving you head and getting laid.
and yes like tiny12 said, i only paid that much once, and the next fucks only the price of a meal and the last time none, 0 pesos and at her place and that girl from candys is at another level, shes a solid 9 in my scale.[/quote]anonimo gdl. the chicas on the web site are hot.the clubs you posted about(candys and golden) are the prices the same for all the girls working there? i'm going to gdl. in a couple months and am trying to figure what clubs and parlours to visit. thanks for the info.
mou. fellow detroiter here. maybe we can go get a beer sometime then.
i was just in agua and guad about 3 weeks ago
anyhow. i read your report on aguascalientes. i have never stayed at that hotel before. however i am very familiar with that part of town. i always stay at fiesta americana when i'm in agua. however, i have never once scored a piece of ass in that town. although i'm sure its very easy to get a gf in aguascalientes, i have neither the time nor the interest.
in guadalajara, i always stay at crowne plaza. however, i've never tried to sneak a chica in there yet. also, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and another estetica are not too far away. with that, i will be back to agua and guad early june. i will keep you posted on what i find. in the meantime, i'm off to europe for the rest of this week.
[QUOTE=DrBrew1]Anonimo Gdl. the chicas on the web site are hot.The clubs you posted about(candys and golden) are the prices the same for all the girls working there? I'm going to Gdl. in a couple months and am trying to figure what clubs and parlours to visit. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]Hey but let my warn you that almost all the girls in that page like in any other page are scams, Alondra is one in a million, Ive heard before that maybe ruby is another girls that is real, but if you noticed like 8 girls in there have the same phone number so its an agency and agency for me are a no no.
And yes, all the girls in Candys cost the same, its a rate fixed by the club, you just buy from the waiters, 100 pesos for a regular topless lapdance where you can touch :) , 2100 for the full monty in a nice private room upstairs, and I think there is another fare around 1000 pesos for oral sex in the private room and maybe a 400 or 500 for a full nude lapdance.
Another strategy that I haven't done in years because i don't frequent clubs anymore is to choose the 1000 pesos service and once upstairs and with the girl offer her 500 pesos to go for the full service, but only offer that to the girl not mention it to the waiter and if the girls agrees you get laid for less.
There are a couple of places just outside of town that have what you are looking for. Ask a cabbie to take you there and have wait for you.
Don. Provide more detail. Which way out of town would be helpful. I am staying on the southside and if I have to go to the north side it will not happen. Names of places would also be helpful and a report of what to expect when I arrive. I have tried the cabbie twice before with no luck. Both times the cabbies have taken directly to my hotel and told the bell boys something that I could not understand. These were high end hotels and there was no way a piece of ass was walking through the lobby to my room at thoses places.
DET. Gotta hook up in Aguascalientes. Heading there on Monday and will be back there again on Jun 4-6.
You and I must be in the same typical det business? I work for the Japs. I woudl assume you travel to Aguas to visit your plant and Guad to visit a certain jap OEM? That is what I do. No European travel just Mexico about every other week.
In Det. Ever been to Lachambre on Tel in Southfield? I have pulled some fine pieces out of that place. Craigslist has been a disappoint.
Stay in touch
Tell the taxista to take you to Las Violetas. It is south of the city. RTFT.
[QUOTE=Mou7189]Don. Provide more detail. Which way out of town would be helpful. I am staying on the southside and if I have to go to the north side it will not happen. Names of places would also be helpful and a report of what to expect when I arrive. [/QUOTE]
I was inclined to think some of us, including me, had been a little rough on you. Now I'm reconsidering. First you say he's "fucking nuts", then this. Is this thread here for the sole purpose of educating your clueless ass? Maybe this would be interesting to some of the rest of us who don't just blow in and blow out and who at least occasionally would like to bang a "9" or a "10" and have GFE.
[QUOTE=Mou7189]Maybe for some banging the chic for the cost of a meal is what you are after. But, for us that occosionally blow into town for a business trip, we do not want to put this much effort into banging a chic. We want a nice piece of ass at the cheapest price that we can get it at and when we are done we want the chic to leave, or we leave, and never see her again. If I wanted to bang the same chic over and over again I would get a GF and it would cost be less that price of a meal. I don't pay for meals when travelling![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mou7189] Your fucking nuts
Ano,
I had trouble finding a pieve of ass when I first started making trips to GDL. But I never paid 2200 for it. That is just crazy. And you claim to be a local? Visitors don't need your help finding good places. They can go it alone and save $ over your suggestions. Hell, I don't even pay that pulling ass out of ANY strip club in Detroit. And why would you compare the girl to your GF? Isn't the whole point of this to get something different? If you like your GF then just go get it from her and save the 2200. Seems logical to me.[/QUOTE]
Tiny,
What an appropiate name.
One thing that I have learned from travel experiences is that we all are different and we all like different things.. My comment about being fucking nuts was directed at the person who was payign 2000 PESO for a piece of ass, which by the way if you read ALL of the threads, their were several locals on here complaining about us gringos coming into your town and over paying for services and ruining it if you guys.
I live in Detroit and at that price I could ANY 10 out of ANY strip club and get laid. I would expect it to cost alot less in Mexico.
So at the end of the day it was a great report for those that like the GFE. But, then why don't you bash your fellow mexican for bitching about us fringos coming into town and paying the same amount to bang a 10? Can't have it both ways my friend.
[QUOTE=Anonimo Gdl]Tiny 12 I wasnt really offended its really hard to offend a Mexican I was just being dramatic, we don't belive in being politically correct here. Double Dong you can buy viagra, Cialis, Xanax, Diazepam, syringes etc from any drugstore without prescription, just walk into the store and ask for a pack of cialis, and thats it.
But I would hesitate about going to Farmacias GDL, they belong to a fellow highschool buddy and his family and they are really into the Opus Dei and they don't sell condoms and other birth control methods, believe it or not this shit still happens in 2008![/QUOTE]
I'm really sick of this type of conservative mochos fellows that are currently ruling in Mexico, for example the Governor of Jalisco made a donation of 90 million pesos (9 million dollars) for the construction of a Church and the excuse given was "religious turism". That money could be better spend in giving food to the hungers, local infrastructure, Hospitals, Schools, improvement of the local security, etc.
In Monterrey a Sex Expo was canceled recently because some mochos (conservative parties, Opus Dei, Associations etc) made pressure to the Government and the reason given was because this type of events promotes "depravation"..... unbelievable.... in 2008.... They didn't care that there are a lot of people in Mty that like that sort of events.
Some Schools books that have information regarding masturbation (not into a obscene way but a educative one) were banned, and also in public buildings Women are forbidden to wear skirts.
That's amazing... this is 2008, we are not in the Medieval Times
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Henry, Good to hear from you, you haven't been posting recently.
Yes, Mexico misses Ayelen, and I'm sure Ayelen misses Mexico. The last I heard she was in Buenos Aires, earning about 30% of what she was making in Mexico. I think she charges 200 Argentine pesos for an hour, or about US$60.[/QUOTE]
This confirms two points:
1. Mexican Immigration is really nasty with Foreigners.
2. South American girls (Argentinians, Venezuelans, Brazilians, etc) charges 2x, 3x and even 4x more than in thier home countries, and in some cases (I found this often with Argentinians) with a lot more of restrictions. Ayelen at least provided great service, more expensive but it was the same that she offered in Buenos Aires, however a lot of her fellows Argentinians charge 3000 pesos (300 USD) for a fuck, offer oral with condom, no tit sucking or Russian (even though they have huge tits), no anal, no daty, no kissing, and only one shot on goal, wherereas in their home country (Argentina) they offer Porns Star Services (oral without condom, CIM, facial, Russian, tit sucking, daty, deep french kissing, anal, multiple shots on goal etc) for 60 USD an hour, no more than 100 USD per hour if the model it's hot as hell and I mean it. I found Argentinian girls to be more nasty than Venezuelan or Brazilian when they are in Mexico, all of them charge 3x or 4x more the price but at least Venezuelan and Brazilian often provide the same service that the offer in their home countries (Porn Star experience) but the Che's girls (Argentinians) charge 4x the price with a lot more of restrictions than they usually have in their home countries (yes I've seen escorts here that offer no anal, and in Argentina they not only do anal but it's already included in the original price, it's not charged as an extra)
I have read in South Americans mongering forums how "boludos" (pendejos in Mexican Spanish.... something like idiots or assholes) Mexicans are for paying those ridiculous prices to their girls.
I agree that the ones that elevate those prices are the Mexican themselves because some have no mongering culture or other simply want to brag about their economic position. This situation is often discussed in the Divas forum.
That's the reason why dozens and dozens and dozens of South American girls seek so desesperately to go and work in Mexico as escorts.
And before somebody says something, I'm myself Mexican (well at leat I have Mexican citizenship).
I completely agree with all your points.
I'd like to add that argentinas (not including Ayelén) feel like they're doing us mexicans a favor for being here. They can all go back to their country as far as I'm concerned.
Yes, venezuelans offer great service in Mexico, but they are starting to charge $2,500 pesos and up. There's one that charges $3,500! She is in Guadalajara right now by the way.
We mexicans tend to copy the US too much, including mongering prices (at least in the big cities).
[QUOTE=Strike 69]This confirms two points:
1. Mexican Immigration is really nasty with Foreigners.
2. South American girls (Argentinians, Venezuelans, Brazilians, etc) charges 2x, 3x and even 4x more than in thier home countries, and in some cases (I found this often with Argentinians) with a lot more of restrictions. Ayelen at least provided great service, more expensive but it was the same that she offered in Buenos Aires, however a lot of her fellows Argentinians charge 3000 pesos (300 USD) for a fuck, offer oral with condom, no tit sucking or Russian (even though they have huge tits), no anal, and only one shot on goal, wherereas in their home country (Argentina) they offer Porns Star Services (oral without condom, CIM, facial, Russian, tit sucking, anal, multiple shots on goal etc) for 60 USD an hour, no more than 100 USD per hour if the model it's hot as hell and I mean it. I found Argentinian girls to be more nasty than Venezuelan or Brazilian when they are in Mexico, all of them charge 3x or 4x more the price but at least Venezuelan and Brazilian often provide the same service that the offer in their home countries (Porn Star experience) but the Che's girls (Argentinians) charge 4x the price with a lot more of restrictions than they usually have in their home countries (yes I've been escorts here that offer no anal, and in Argentina they not only do anal but it's already included in the original price, it's not charged as an extra)
I have read in South Americans mongering forums how "boludos" (pendejos in Mexican Spanish.... something like idiots or assholes) Mexicans are for paying those ridiculous prices to their girls.
I agree that the ones that elevate those prices are the Mexican themselves because some have no mongering culture or other simply want to brag about their economic position. This situation is often discussed in the Divas forum.
That's the reason why dozens and dozens and dozens of South American girls seek so desesperately to go and work in Mexico as escorts.
And before somebody says something, I'm myself Mexican (well at leat I have Mexican citizenship).[/QUOTE]
Strike, interesting comments. If it's not too late you should consider a career as a psychologist or sociologist and specialize in either foreign w*hores or Tapatias.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Strike, interesting comments. If it's not too late you should consider a career as a psychologist or sociologist and specialize in either foreign w*hores or Tapatias.[/QUOTE]
I can specialize in French Canadians also lol.
[quote=anonimo gdl]and here i attach a couple of girls that imho are a good deal.
the other one is alondra you can find her in the [url]http://sexoservidoras.net/escorts-en-guadalajara-jalisco.html[/url] page, and i think shes the only one there with real photos, she charges me 1000 pesos and its a really cute girl with a really nice body, sweet face, honey colored eyes, and fucks like a champ, she really enjoys giving you head and getting laid.
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business brought me back to this beautiful city for the last couple days and i planned to fully take advantage of the opportunities in my area.
night one i tried out estetica alex located on av arcos about 3 blocks from the milennium arch and well within walking distance from my hotel (located about 4 blocks from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]). nice lineup and although there were only 6 to choose from they were all solid 8-9's. i chose eva, a 20 year old spinner who said she was from gdl and who speaks no english so my pidgin spanish had to suffice. fee was 1000mn for one hour service that included a very good massage! this lady has very talented hands and worked out some knots and kinks that have been driving me nuts for weeks. after the theraputic portion of the program she told me to flip and asked what i wanted..i told her and she playfully feigned shock but after we both had a good laugh she got right down to business. excellent cbj followed by cg, rcg and a finish in mish. walked back to my hotel with a grin on my face. stopped along the way at hacienda navarro for a very good ribeye dinner.
night two i was able to contact alondra and arranged for her to come and visit. needless to say i was pleasantly surprised when i opened the door and extremely pleased..i was sorry i had only scheduled one hour but for a first time visit thats what i always do. everything anonimo wrote about her is spot on..cute and funny with a great attitude and definitely goes the extra mile to please. all this for only 1200 mn including the taxi! thanks for the excellent recommendation sir!
can't wait to come back!
last week i felt the urge again of experimenting with new girls so i decided to go trough the painfull process of installing myself in a motel and calling agencies.
everything started same as usual,i called two agencies and just promises of real princess but i had to sent the girls back, then i called some girls reported as independents in the "seductoras" website and same bullshit ever, not the girl in the pics (maya and rubi). so i was on my way out when the phone if the room rang, it was a girl from the reception telling me that they know some agencies, so they contacted me with one but i even didnt accept anything with the first one because their rates where 800 pesos for "bellas diosas" wich sounded like bs to me, then she suggested me another agency that has true "modelos" according to them, again the pimp told me that their rates where 2500 for 3 hours which in my experiencia that means a gordita. so last try the girl from the reception told me, "it seems you are looking for soemthing really special right?", no shit sherlok i thought, " i know a really pretty mexican girl who charges 2500 bla bla" and i tought it might be a "diva" but according to the description the girl told me i decided to give her a chance.
i called the girl and the first impression i got is that she was clueless about what she was doing, we tried to arrange something but she said she was busy. so i called her the next day, and again i got the same vibe, i asked her to meet outside a motel so i can knew her without risking my money and time, and she agreed. i asked to meet her outside motel "gran via" and she had no facking clue about where that place is, i gave her directions and again she had not a clue about the two major avenues where gran via is located.
after 30 min she arrived, ive got to say that i was spying on her just in case she was fugly i would run, haha.
but from one block away she looked smoking hot, kinda skinny but super hot,
so i call her and told her where i was, and ohhhh great disappointment she looked hot to me but only in the distance, so duddelny i fake a phone call and told her that i got a work emergency, that i would give her a ride or money for a cab, and she said a ride would be fine, thing that a pro would never do.
so we chatted for a while in the car, and i confirmed my doubts, she seems to be really into this, but she denied it. i told her that her rate is way too much for girl like her, and she told me that men pay that for her service, thing that i refuse to believe. on the way to the place where she asked me to drop her we chatted and i felt the "click" so i began to be more "aggressive" and i parked on a underground parking lot and began to "chat" more and impress her she said shes 19 y/o but i dunno maybe younger :s. i felt who she was soooooooo naive and inexperienced, i kept telling her how beautyfull she is blah blah, it was more like a girl i picked from a bar, so i kiss her and then we started making out in the parking lot and she almost went down on me only because i stopped her i didnt want to end in the police "separos", yes it was quite an experience hahaha, then i told her i was a photographer and that i brought my camera with me and that i would love to photograph her and she agreed, hehe.
so here are a few pics of her, she is not my type, shed like solid 6 to me, i didn't like her face and her teeth (yes,teeth means a lot to me), but i thought some of you my like her ( way way better that the fuglyness that prevails in the esteticas like mediterraneo) and also you can fulfill the "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] " fetish. if someone wants her cellphone pm me.
and oh i forgot, there is one more thing, you still have to negotiate with her, she really things that she is worth 2500 pesos for 2 hours, thing that i would never ever pay in my life to a girl like her, maybe 800 pesos an hour but after my experience with her i know that if i feel horny and don't have money with me i would call her and get laid for some beer and a joint.
i posted about her (without pics) in the sexxxy provincia forum so maybe some of my colleagues there might work her and let her known that she is so wrong in asking for 2500 pesos.
saludos!
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Anonimo,
Please give her number I really like the photos of thi dalila, anyway after my experience I will tell you everything obout her so please the phone!
I noticed a definite increase in Mexican users recently. Any of you guys from the former portalguadalajara website that mysteriously disappeared.
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De todas formas... bienvenidos!
Un saludo!
Coahuila
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I will have @ 20 hrs to initiate myself. Getting in this evening leave tomorrow afternoon. Any pointers for a non Spanish speaker appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Thanks to those who took the time to pm me. Trip went down w/@ 12 hrs notice so little time to research. Last minute change of plans on arrival in that we went to the Holiday Inn El Centro instead of the Hilton a change I didn't want but was arranged for me so whatever. Hotel is in an older part of town numerous shops around. En route from the airport our driver pointed out & somewhat recommended Krystal Mens Club which was @ a 15 minute walk from the hotel. Get to the hotel a little before 8pm, called Alondra & set her up for 9. Walked to a nearby square for a disappointing but quick taco & margarita. Back to the room Alondra arrived right on time. Just after she called I get a call from the front desk & he says visitor hrs are over & there is a fee for gusts after 8pm, now shes knocking & I say I gotta go. There she is not unlike her web description altho I'd guess mid 20's & 60 kg, as opposed to her stats listed @23 & 50 kg not an improvement given my preferences but cute & friendly so no thought of sending her away. Thought I'd try the $100/hr option & see how we hit it off. She has a very nice smile, great teeth, reasonable english, snuggly, round in a lot of places, open to much, gung ho kisser which is not usually my thing but I didn't protest much. She had a sexy outfit, nice c to d's which again big uns aren't a big deal to me but again not complaining. If you like well endowed, semi thick, clean shaven she may be for you. She really seems to like to talk, suck & fuck & we did as much as an hr would allow. Then to meet up w/my partner for a stroll to Krystal's. Stayed from @1030 to 230, drank a combined 8 beers, 2 shots bought 2 ladies drinks which seemed to include a lap dance. Wasn't tempted to take any of the ladies upstairs for 20 minutes for $200 us. Only had 9 or so girls, most were thick & tatted up not my taste but if you like plump & then some could be for you. Cost was almost $200 inc tips. Raining as we left so got gouged $7 for the cab ride. Next day walked, shopped, snacked. Checkout & the hotel they tried to hit me up w/a visitors fee, $20, I protested & got the manager to waive the fee, this time only she said, last time I stay here I hope, I thought. Ride to the airport our driver is telling us what a great time he had @ Candy's, 75 girls mostly cute. Sounded equally expensive but much greater selection. So if I go back it'd be a different hotel & different club for me. Osmosis Amoebas
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This post as well as others have been quiet for a bit. I am heading back to Guadalajara next week (been a few months since I have been there). I usually stay at the Holiday Inn El Centro. I know some don't like it but this was the first hotel that I stayed at while there and I really don't like changes, unless it involves sex and women.
Any reports on the latest scene there? Anyone care to hook up and monger for Street Walkers together? Not sure of when I will be there but it looks like this trip will be a 2 nighter, usually only 1 night, and will be next Wednesday and Thursday, the 16th and 17th.
Would kind of like to maybe get at least one other guy and perhaps split the cost of 3 or 4 chics and have a mini orgy. Anyone interested?
Hey there -- It's been a while since I have posted but yes, I sure wish I could join you for that "Chica Fest" you mentioned :) I am also like you in the way I like staying at the same hotel. It's comfortable and once you pick a good place no need to go looking elsewhere.
I can mention the places I would recommend... but the beds are a little hard to actually sleep on...
I usually go to the Motel Lomalinda on Av Colon #4292. It is located in El Sauz, Tlaquepaque in the southern end of Guadalajara close to the Espana tren lijero stop. (I saved my last "nota de consumo" from when I was there late last year. It was only 245 pesos for 8 hours as it is a motel and not a hotel. It's very close to the tren lijero "Espana" stop if I remember correctly, and a nice OXXO nearby. Don't buy the food they sell at the motel, get snacks at the OXXO -- they will let you leave for a max of 1 hour but if you don't come back in that time you lose your room (the OXXO is a 10 minute walk there and back)
The rooms are clean, everything valuable is BOLTED to the floor (Pues estamos en Mexico jeje!), the TV is small but gets a fair amount of channels. They have plenty of hot water and even some "sitting room" style furniture -- only you cannot move it around (bolted down). There are even plants growing at the bottom of the stairs... nice touch for a Sex Motel! Be careful when going down the stairs if the light is off... it would be easy to slip if the stairs are wet at all, and the handrail is bolted to the building, there's not one on the other side of the stairs as I remember... You want to remember the motel for the fun times and sore muscles from going at it hard, not from falling off the stairs WHILE hard...
The reception will be more than happy to call a chica in for you... well, they dial an agency they're "affiliated" with and you speak to the agency phone operator and they can send you a chica or two or three or more if you like. I think it was $800 for an hour. I wasn't going to be too picky, I had just gotten off the plane and wanted to enjoy my arrival to sweet Mexico and whoever showed up at the door as long as they were biologically female and Mexicana was going to be mine for an hour :) Well, I guess I would have turned away a woman who was as heavier than me weight wise and over 35... but after being cooped up around Gringas that are easily 2 times my weight where I work (disgusting) a woman my weight is relatively "Thin" by comparison! I got lucky and it turned out that they sent me a cute, perky 25 year old Tapatia with sweet eyes and even sweeter, natural C size boobs! :) I asked her if we could go for an hour and a half instead and she checked in with the mamacita and the price went to $1000 pesos which is fine and was totally worth it. Taxi cost was included. She even drank a beer with me and chatted it up really well after our "actividad" and shower together. Quite a sharp contrast to Gringalandia...
I am so sick of being around these ball-busting gringas :(
$800 for an hour from the agencies seems to be the norm. I think you can find $600 pesos an hour or "45 minute hour", but the only place I know of where you can call in a chica for as low as $300 pesos (plus taxi of $100) is Mexico City... but there you really are rolling the dice. I've done it and though they were not more than 6's in looks, they came through with 8's and 9's in attitude! Hell, I just love women :) I like being like Don Quixote... you treat her like Dulcinea and she'll become somewhat like Dulcinea (just don't leave your wallet out...) Dulcinea was always a ratera... (a thief).
I have been so fortunate to find this site. Wow. What a gem you have in Guadalajara. After doing some research I decided to try Alondra. Took a few calls to get her. She speaks pretty good english which was very helpful being I speak no spanish. We set on a time and the price $120 US for the hour. She did not make it at the time. I called her and she answered and we worked out another time. She arrived at my room and WOW. She is one hot girl. Not super thin, but curves in all the right places and no fat on her. Great body and beautiful face. She obviously likes to kiss, as I do, so that was great. We had a great time, well worth the price and more. What a bargain. Would love to see her again. Here is her link.
([url]http://sexoservidoras.net/escort-alondra699.html[/url]).
Runner Up, responding to your questions and comments,
1. GDL is one of the last places I'd go for nonpros. Colombia and Cuba are much better. There are many Mexican males who go to Cuba, for the same purpose that you're going to Mexico -- because the women are easier there.
2. Non pro bars aren't a good bet. Personal introductions from friends and dating process is the best way to get to know women, but you don't have time for that.
3. Day activities and tours -- other than El Centro, there's not a lot to see. Maybe a day trip to Tequila or to Lake Chapala might be worthwhile. You're much better off in, say, Oaxaca or Guanajuato, for that sort of thing. You mention you're into shopping. I'd recommend a daytime trip to Tlaquepaque. There are a lot of craft type shops and also some very good restaurants.
4. You can't stay anywhere close to all the action, because the action is dispersed throughout the city. I would rent a car or be prepared to take taxis. In the mid-price range, I like Hotel Tapatio a lot. It's like a reasonably-priced country resort in the middle of a large city, but not located well with respect to any of the sites except the strip clubs close to the airport. Recommended if you have a car. Howard Johnson's is reasonably priced, clean, and next door to Golden strip bar, which is an expensive strip club. Crowne Plaza and Presidente (at one time affiliated with Intercontinental, maybe it still is) cost more, but are nicer and reasonably well located with respect to esteticas. Hilton is best value for the money at the upper end IMHO. There are decent hotels close to downtown, that I've never stayed in. Expect to spend a little more than you would in the U.S., unless you're from California or East Coast.
5. This is the internationalsexguide. It is a site to find sex, not girlfriends. It is not a matrimonial site. However, there have been some posts on nonpros. I've done you the favor of ferretting some out. The argument between Coahuila and Strike may be enlightening. I tend to agree with Strike, but if you're 25 years old and since you speak fluent Spanish, your experiences could be closer to Coahuila's, if you decided to move to and live in GDL:
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Runner Up,
IMHO and as a tapatio I can tell you, GDL its one of the best places in the world to get non pros and I've lived in 3 countries before.
Actions here is amazing at least for me and with girls on her late 20's maybe beacause I'm young too.
You have to be able to recognize between several types of girls and you'll be able to score, theres uptight tapatias fresas, party type tapatias fresas, beautifull middle class tapatias, sluty tapatias, and maybe more types depending on whom you ask, you have apply a different approach for each one, but all of them have pussy so theres always a chance.
I've to admit tapatias and tapatios could be very close to their social circle and its really hard to enter but if you have to got the skills (charm, look, and money) may be easier.
Places about where to go I would say all the bars, restaurnts, lounges, etc at Av Lopez Cotilla between Perez verdia and Chapultepec, that area is packed with good night life and plenty of girls.
Also its easier to get a girl at a "antro" or dancing club than in a Bar or restaurant, forget about going to Vango or Bosse, because those are where the créme de la créme goes and its like going back to highschool or college with all of my friends there, sure you can see the most good looking girls in the planet there but they "behave" in there because everybody is watching so its really hard to get something there. But there is good news, the same girls that go there, when they feel like going wild go to other clubs and mix with the other "type" of tapatias and go nuts, usually when I feel like "hunting" I go there too, Chess on Av. Lopez Mateos, Mood a Av Patria and Guadalupe, Dubai at Avenida Patria 3 blocks from Mariano Otero, La Follie I forgot the name of th street but is one block parallel from Lopez mateos and one block from Avenida de las rosas, you will have tons of fun there and lots and lots girls to choose from!
Good luck and happy hunting!
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Anonimo, respectfully, GDL is one of the best places in the world for YOU to get nonpros, because you're a Tapatio.
Runner Up, the wingman might be a good idea. One of my best all time trips was to Guadalajara back in about 1994 with a friend. I don't remember if I got laid, but we did have a blast hanging out and meeting women in some hokey Mariachi clubs on Lopez Mateos, eating in Tlaquepaque, and going to some really cool sexually-oriented clubs (Guadalajara del Dia, Las Cascadas, Lipstick, some theater with a live sex show). If I'd been there by myself I wouldn't have done all of that. Since then, Guadalajara has changed a lot. It's become more like Houston and a thousand other places, and lost a lot of its charm, IMHO. Or maybe I've just gotten old.
What is a Tapatio, and why does it give you a better chance with the girls?
[QUOTE=Tjmee]What is a Tapatio, and why does it give you a better chance with the girls?[/QUOTE]
Tapatio (male) and Tapatia (female) are the nicknames given to the Mexicans born in the State of Jalisco and in a more specific and direct way, is the nickname of Mexicans who were born in the city of Guadalajara.
Sometimes it only applies to Guadalajarans.
By the way the genetic of the Tapatias regarding big round asses are among the best in Mexico, but like Tiny said if you are not a Tapatio or you are not worthy enough ($$$) in front of their eyes is near impossible to taste a Tapatian ass from a non pro.
Guadalajara has a considerable percentage of white people blondes and green eyed brunnetes are not hard to find in the streets.
Tapatian social circles are very close unlike in other areas of Mexico, it doesn't matter you charm or education they will consider you worthy of entering only if you have the money $$$$. The same applies to a large porcentage of Tapatias whether they are Tapatias Fresas from Valle Real or Puerta de Hierro or modest Tapatias from the UDG
[QUOTE=Strike 69]Tapatio (male) and Tapatia (female) are the nicknames given to the Mexicans born in the State of Jalisco and in a more specific and direct way, is the nickname of Mexicans who were born in the city of Guadalajara.
Sometimes it only applies to Guadalajarans.
By the way the genetic of the Tapatias regarding big round asses are among the best in Mexico, but like Tiny said if you are not a Tapatio or you are not worthy enough ($$$) in front of their eyes is near impossible to taste a Tapatian ass from a non pro.
Guadalajara has a considerable percentage of white people blondes and green eyed brunnetes are not hard to find in the streets.
Tapatian social circles are very close unlike in other areas of Mexico, it doesn't matter you charm or education they will consider you worthy of entering only if you have the money $$$$. The same applies to a large porcentage of Tapatias whether they are Tapatias Fresas from Valle Real or Puerta de Hierro or modest Tapatias from the UDG[/QUOTE]Slutty tapatias from poor and lower middle class neighborhoods are REALLY easy to pull, as long as you are good looking (or just white) and speak at least some decent Spanish. Try chatting up girls on the street in Guad east of the Calzada or in Tlaquepaque. Just look for poor city areas that are not TOO Poor. The poorest parts of Guadalajara are also the most dangerous, actually really the only dangerous parts but they can be pretty bad.
Cheers,
Don Cascabel
[QUOTE=Coahuila]Slutty tapatias from poor and lower middle class neighborhoods are REALLY easy to pull, as long as you are good looking (or just white) and speak at least some decent Spanish. Try chatting up girls on the street in Guad east of the Calzada or in Tlaquepaque. Just look for poor city areas that are not TOO Poor. The poorest parts of Guadalajara are also the most dangerous, actually really the only dangerous parts but they can be pretty bad.
Cheers,
Don Cascabel[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter for the Tapatias if you are white, brown or black as long as you have money. Money is what makes them instantly horny unlike some other Mexican females from other areas, they don't care if you can speak decent Spanish or not as long as you have a fancy car and can pay for their bills
A Tapatia will be with you as long she can obtain somekind of benefit from the relationship whether it's an economic (the most common) social, political or even an academic one.
I agree that the most poor areas of Guadalajara are also the most dangerous.
I don't have nearly the experience that Coahuila and Anonimo do in bedding nonpros, other than women I've dated for a while. I'd rather pay for it. If I were in my 20's like them it might be different. They also seem to have identified some target rich environments for finding slutty women. Anyway, available women I've met seem to fall into three categories,
1. Ugly women. Her economic status doesn't make much difference. I can pull an ugly woman from, say, U-fit in Puerta de Hierro (health club with California-like member fees), no problem.
2. Reasonably attractive, traditional women. There are a lot of these out there that would be interested in dating a gringo. But they typically don't fuck on the first date. Or the second or the third.
3. Attractive non-traditional women. This is the target we're all interested in. If your typical ISG gringo and his buddy walk into an upscale bar and start hitting on women like these, they'll strike out. If you're dressed well, good haircut, clean finger nails, expensive watch -- all those superficial things --you're likely to do a little better. These women are interested in money, more so on average than U.S. women. Now, if you start dating one of these women, and she figures out you've got money, all her friends are going to want you to fix them up with your rich gringo friends. It doesn't really matter if your buddies are 20 years older or if they don't speak Spanish, as long as they've got money. In fact, some of her friends are probably going to want to date you. This is why you see Strike and Anonimo and some others pointing out the importance of cliques in Guadalajara.
If you're traveling through town and looking for a piece of ass, I think you're better off going to the esteticas instead of trying to pick up a nonpro.
Excellent post Tiny you have described quite well in a short post how's the situation when it comes to Guadalajaran women (Tapatias).
If you are looking for non pros other cities of Mexico are so much better choice than Guadalajara.
No offense here, but Guadalajara is not what you portray it to be. I admit, that in Guad girls are more interested in money than in other Mexican cities, but that comes with the Jalisco standard of living (not to mention their looks). In the USA, girls from San Diego are much better looking and much more interested in $$$ than say girls from Lawrence, Kansas or whatever other middle town you can think of.
That being said, I am young, good looking, but relatively bad off financially and I have a serious limp from a car accident. Never the less, in the past week I have played with 5 non-pros and fucked 2. The other 3 are for this week You have to play by the rules. These girls have parents you know. If I were interested in girls above 25, that wouldn't be a problem and I could easily pull more. Money is not an object, if I spend more than $30 US on a date she better be doing anal. So, in other words, Guad has some money hungry girls, but they are certainly not the rule rather they are the exception.
Have fun.
BTW. I have noticed an interesting trend in downtown guad lately. The casa naranja, hotel paris, calle madero (2 blocks west of 16 de septiembre) as well as the hotel around the corner from the casa naranja have had some good looking you girls lately. In the last 3 passes I have made, I have seen some good quality at some or all. I haven't tried it because I've been having too much fun with nonpros, but I was certainly tempted. I prefer hours in a motel than 20 min in some shitty hotel. However, that being said, anyone in the area check out those 4 spots. I have seen the best quality in the last weeks than I have in 2. 5 years. Oh and for what it's worth, Hotel Hidalgo has gotten worse, though it was never good. Make sure you don't pay more than $250 pesos, unless you're getting anal or something, because you will jack up the prices for us other extranjeros.
Suerte!
Coahuila
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Coahuila, What you don't get is that you're young, good-looking and live in Guadalajara, and most of the rest of us are not. Keep the good tips coming -- it sounds like downtown is worth checking out.
High Class has been mentioned here many times, some things good, some things not so good. I have been there many times, but not for the last six months or so, until yesterday. What a pleasant surprise. The cost is still 550 pesos. He hasn't inceased his prices for well over a year. Pancho, the owner, has really been working hard to spruce the place up. It is looking good.
Now for the important part. I arrived at approx 4:30 PM. The parade included at least 10 girls to choose from. Two 9's, two 8's, the rest 6's & 7's. I must say that if the girl is at all overweight, she loses big. I chose Gaby, barely 20, a solid 9. Her only drawback was the scar on her stomach compliments of her one year old. Other than that - Perfecto!! Pretty, great tits, great cocksucker, and a tight little pussy. I look forward to partaking of her again.
Another good old place gotten better is Blackjack's, on the Periferico, one light west of the Chapala Highway. Great fucking and cocksucking in a relaxed atmosphere upstairs. If you plan to stay downstairs, take your earplugs. Take 10 minutes to choose a girl the gorditas always come first.
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[QUOTE=Guadalajara Don]High Class has been mentioned here many times, some things good, some things not so good. I have been there many times, but not for the last six months or so, until yesterday. What a pleasant surprise. The cost is still 550 pesos. He hasn't inceased his prices for well over a year. Pancho, the owner, has really been working hard to spruce the place up. It is looking good.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Where is High Class? Do you have an address? I have GPS and a hard dick
Redneck, 2913 Lazaro Cardenas, close to glorieta (traffic circle) with Mariano Otero.
Was down in Guadalajara for a couple of days for work and stopped by High Class. Saw Vanessa who was very good in the massage part and excellent about everything else. She did have a couple of sore spots on her back and said it was a liposuction.
Just got back from my second visit to High Class this year. Quality of girls was low compared to my last visit in March 08. Of five girls available on a Sunday afternoon, only one named Vicky was decent. She spoke zero English, but we were able to make due with what little Spanish I can remember from high school during the Reagan administration. Cost was 550 pesos for a half hour (media hora), and she led me up to the same room I had with Vanessa back in March.
Vicky is probably late twenties, brunette with brown eyes, I'd guess 35C-D cups, with a well groomed furry kitty. She was a little thick around the middle, but not bad. Certainly not BBW territory, but not a spinner either.
What I really liked about her was that she was very responsive to what I wanted to do and provided a very enjoyable 30 minutes. She massaged me for about 10-15 minutes while teasing between my legs, jacked me off with very skilled strokes, sucked my balls while I jacked off, then let me fuck her nice natural tits while she played with my balls. We finished with me fucking her missionary for a while before finishing all over her tits.
She didn't smile much but she moaned pretty convincingly in a manner that didn't get in the way of me having a good time. It was NOT a GFE by any standard, but overall it was a good time.
My experience with Vanessa last spring was a bit better. She was able to manage a few words of English and seemed to enjoy teaching me some Spanish while we fucked in a few different positions. I opted for an hour with her, which was 900 pesos if memory serves.
Just got back from my second visit to High Class this year. Quality of girls was low compared to my last visit in March 08. Of five girls available on a Sunday afternoon, only one named Vicky was decent. She spoke zero English, but we were able to make due with what little Spanish I can remember from high school during the Reagan administration. Cost was 550 pesos for a half hour (media hora), and she led me up to the same room I had with Vanessa back in March.
Vicky is probably late twenties, brunette with brown eyes, I'd guess 35C-D cups, with a well groomed furry kitty. She was a little thick around the middle, but not bad. Certainly not BBW territory, but not a spinner either.
What I really liked about her was that she was very responsive to what I wanted to do and provided a very enjoyable 30 minutes. She massaged me for about 10-15 minutes while teasing between my legs, jacked me off with very skilled strokes, sucked my balls while I jacked off, then let me fuck her nice natural tits while she played with my balls. We finished with me fucking her missionary for a while before finishing all over her tits.
She didn't smile much but she moaned pretty convincingly in a manner that didn't get in the way of me having a good time. It was NOT a GFE by any standard, but overall it was a good time.
My experience with Vanessa last spring was a bit better. She was able to manage a few words of English and seemed to enjoy teaching me some Spanish while we fucked in a few different positions. I opted for an hour with her, which was 900 pesos if memory serves.
Just got back from my second visit to High Class this year. Quality of girls was low compared to my last visit in March 08. Of five girls available on a Sunday afternoon, only one named Vicky was decent. She spoke zero English, but we were able to make due with what little Spanish I can remember from high school during the Reagan administration. Cost was 550 pesos for a half hour (media hora), and she led me up to the same room I had with Vanessa back in March.
Vicky is probably late twenties, brunette with brown eyes, I'd guess 35C-D cups, with a well groomed furry kitty. She was a little thick around the middle, but not bad. Certainly not BBW territory, but not a spinner either.
What I really liked about her was that she was very responsive to what I wanted to do and provided a very enjoyable 30 minutes. She massaged me for about 10-15 minutes while teasing between my legs, jacked me off with very skilled strokes, sucked my balls while I jacked off, then let me fuck her nice natural tits while she played with my balls. We finished with me fucking her missionary for a while before finishing all over her tits.
She didn't smile much but she moaned pretty convincingly in a manner that didn't get in the way of me having a good time. It was NOT a GFE by any standard, but overall it was a good time.
My experience with Vanessa last spring was a bit better. She was able to manage a few words of English and seemed to enjoy teaching me some Spanish while we fucked in a few different positions. I opted for an hour with her, which was 900 pesos if memory serves.
Anyone have any mongering maps of GDL? I'm planning a trip this winter. Thx.
Manax
Sunday is family day in Mexico. Try again during the week. And only pay the 550 pesos for 1/2 hour. The girl will stay longer and do more for a tip, thus saving you money and enhancing your experience.
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Guys,
I'm heading to Guad for a week after a week in Monterrey. Can someone give me some direction on the scene there for a guy who speaks no spanish at all. Is there some place for a gringo to go to get some good spanish pussy without speaking spanish? What about the street walker scene? I'll be staying at the El Presidente and was wondering if there were girls to be had within walking distance to the hotel?
Help me out guys.
bustaload...
listen to me. it sounds like we are very similiar. i speak zero spanish, i mean zero. i have spun my wheels in guadalajara many times and become very frustrated. take the time to read reports from 2008 on. print them out and take them with you.
i do not know where your hotel is at so i will give you two scenarios.
1. if you are close to downtown find the wal mart or the mision carleton. they are on the same street. on the same side of as wal-mart and opposite of mision carleton but in the opposite direction of the wal mart you will find a small place that appears to be a beauty salon. i do not recall the name of it but you will know it when you see it.
once inside they will parade all of the girls one at a time in front of you and you can choose your girl i paid 400 peso.
if you are close to the holiday inn select try [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. again read previous posts for the directions but it close by.
turst me......the streetwalker scene is not for guys like us in guadalajara. some may success but they speak spanish. you are handicapped because of this but if you listen to the reports you will have a great time.
post back and let us know how it went.
i myslef am headed to aguascalinetes..plane leaves in less than 3 hours. very hard place to monger there but i have found some success. just hoping to get some time to monger. it seems i am the only one who reports on the scene in aguascalientes and it has been a while so i am not sure if things have changed.
another word of caution.........drug lord activity has increased. you will be alright but do not put yourself in a bad situation by letting your little head do the thinking for you. stick the to the plan and do not try the streetwalker scene. you and i are gringo's and they know it.
[quote=bustaload]guys,
i'm heading to guad for a week after a week in monterrey. can someone give me some direction on the scene there for a guy who speaks no spanish at all. is there some place for a gringo to go to get some good spanish pussy without speaking spanish? what about the street walker scene? i'll be staying at the el presidente and was wondering if there were girls to be had within walking distance to the hotel?
help me out guys.[/quote]
a poster located some of the esteticas in relation to your hotel:
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i'd call to make sure the place is open, write down the name, address and telephone number and give that to the taxi driver. these are not open late at night -- they're daytime and early evening places.
i can vouch for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and eduar's. jet set is so-so. i haven't been to the others on the list. although it's not one of my favorites, a lot of people here like hi class, which isn't on the list, but it's very close to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and convenient to your hotel -- scroll down a few posts for the address.
i also was just down in gdl very recently. please listen to mou. you do not want to try the streetwalkers. i also stay in the el presidente hotel. there is some action within walking distance (a fairly long walk though).
probably about 1 to 1. 5km past plaza del sol (right hand side), there is an estetica (forgot name), but its right on the main street past the pharmacia guadalajara. the price is 600 pesos. however, the quality is not so great.
the place mou is talking about is called meditereneo (i think thats how its spelled). i was just there the other day. there were probably 10 girls in there. i paid 550 pesos with a tip. session was nice. also, the quality was very nice. in my opinion, this place was very good for the price.
i've never tried [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or hc yet, so i can't comment on those places.
about the streetwalker scene. there are many streetwalkers that hang out in plaza del sol (near your hotel). however, i would never try them. i think a lot of them are not actually girls if you know what i mean.
anyhow, good luck.
mou,
i have not reported in aguacalientes lately because i have had absolutely zero luck there.
DET.....How nice to see you have found some success in Mexico.
Hopefully the guy will listen as the SW is not for girngis that speak no english.
As for as Aguas goes.........was headed there Wed. of this week and never it made past Houston. Airport was closed and I missed my connection. Only one flight a day into Aguas every night at 6:30. Missed my meeting in the AM so I stayed the night at the Houston airport...no hotels, and took the 7AM flight to Metro. Long trip for nothing.
Have a feeling I will headed to Guad within the next several weeks....looking forward to it.
[QUOTE=Mou7189]DET.....How nice to see you have found some success in Mexico.
Hopefully the guy will listen as the SW is not for girngis that speak no english.
As for as Aguas goes.........was headed there Wed. of this week and never it made past Houston. Airport was closed and I missed my connection. Only one flight a day into Aguas every night at 6:30. Missed my meeting in the AM so I stayed the night at the Houston airport...no hotels, and took the 7AM flight to Metro. Long trip for nothing.
Have a feeling I will headed to Guad within the next several weeks....looking forward to it.[/QUOTE]Another option is you really really want to go and this happens again. If you are trying to get to Agauascalientes, why not catch a flight to Guadalajara. When you arrive there have a cab take you the "Centro de Camiones" (bus terminal) It is inexpensive, they have daily routes to Aguascalientes at a relatively low cost. I think the most I have aver paid fo rhte bus trip was 20.00 US dollars for a first class ticket. For me I fly from LAX to Guadalajara then catch a bus to Aguascalientes with taxis and all it is still far more inexpensive then a direct flight to Aguasccalentes. Also flights to Guadalajara are probably more common than the Aguascalientes as it is a larger airport and city. (cost effective) IF you plan it right you can get back to Guadalajara before your flight departs and get in on some pre-flight daytime action. [url]http://www.etn.com.mx/[/url] To see schedules, times, distance along with prices. That is the line I use, get a sandwich, a soda and watch a movie before you know it you are there.
[QUOTE=Saul Espinoza]Another option is you really really want to go and this happens again. If you are trying to get to Agauascalientes, why not catch a flight to Guadalajara. When you arrive there have a cab take you the "Centro de Camiones" (bus terminal) It is inexpensive, they have daily routes to Aguascalientes at a relatively low cost. I think the most I have aver paid fo rhte bus trip was 20.00 US dollars for a first class ticket. For me I fly from LAX to Guadalajara then catch a bus to Aguascalientes with taxis and all it is still far more inexpensive then a direct flight to Aguasccalentes. Also flights to Guadalajara are probably more common than the Aguascalientes as it is a larger airport and city. (cost effective) IF you plan it right you can get back to Guadalajara before your flight departs and get in on some pre-flight daytime action. [url]http://www.etn.com.mx/[/url] To see schedules, times, distance along with prices. That is the line I use, get a sandwich, a soda and watch a movie before you know it you are there.[/QUOTE]
Great Idea and was not not only thought of by me, but everyone else flying into Mexico as well. You could not get on the flights to Guadalajara, Leon, Mexico City, or anyone else as they were booked.
I have missed my flight out of Aguas before and took the cab to Leon so I know it works.
Had a visit last week from Alejandra at Prestige agency. I had used them earlier this year and received good value with their 1500MN/1.5 hour promoccion so since I was unable to locate my regular favorita here, I decided to try them again. I asked for someone about 30 years old, mas o menos, and morena. At the appointed time Alejandra was gently knocking on my door. She was about 5-8, 110 pounds and nice natural 36-D's and claimed she was 29. She greeted me with a kiss on the cheek and excused herself to shower.
She returned wrapped in a towel and looked marvelous. I attempted to cuddle and have some get to know you chit-chat/foreplay but unfortunately she was not into it. Now my Spanish may not be fluent but there are some things that you can do and say that easily get the point across. at this point I learned that her list of dont's was almost as long as my ex-wife’s. Don’t kiss, don’t touch the kitty, don’t DATY, Don’t BBBJ. She gave an adequate CBJ but as soon as little Monger was hard she wanted to move to CG and after 15 minutes in the cama I was just not ready to go so fast. She reluctantly resumed the CBJ with somewhat less enthusiasm (after changing the cover because it came in contact with her kitty for a nanosecond). I had to finish putting the hat on as she had really long acrylic nails and she couldn’t unroll the hat. After regaining little Mongers interest she again attempted CG. I went for it thinking I could fondle and gently suck on her titties. Wrong again! She then requested mish and I countered with doggie to which she agreed. We got things moving and next thing I know she has her fingers blocking me form any real penetration. I'm not THAT big LOL! Now her finger claws were digging into my sack on every thrust. I finally pushed her hand away pointed to her nails and said OUCH! She made sure the hat was OK then allowed me to finish. When it was all said and done a whole 30 minutes passed by. I tried again to cuddle and pleasure her but she was still having none of it. After 45 minutes she went to take another shower. When she was done I told her if she wanted to leave early it was OK. Sometimes it’s like they say- you’re not paying for the service- you pay em to leave afterwards.
I may give Prestige another shot as I am 1 for 2 but will definitely ask they NOT send Alejandra again.
Ok Guys......headed back to Gaudalajara and will be staying the night of Nov. 10. I am looking for fellow monger, perhaps a local, to hook up with 3 or 4 chics and have a mini orgy. Is there anyone who may be interested?
I can stay anywhere but worst case is I will stay at Mission Carlton and hit the Meditereneo. Been there and know what I am getting there and can have for no more than 500 Peso. For those that have not been to Meditereneo, they parade each girl in front of you one by one and you can take your pick of which one you want. I like this versus calling an agency as you never know what you will get, especially since I speak no Spanish and can not even tell to NOT send a FAT chic!
[QUOTE=Mou7189]Ok Guys......headed back to Gaudalajara and will be staying the night of Nov. 10. I am looking for fellow monger, perhaps a local, to hook up with 3 or 4 chics and have a mini orgy. Is there anyone who may be interested?
I can stay anywhere but worst case is I will stay at Mission Carlton and hit the Meditereneo. Been there and know what I am getting there and can have for no more than 500 Peso. For those that have not been to Meditereneo, they parade each girl in front of you one by one and you can take your pick of which one you want. I like this versus calling an agency as you never know what you will get, especially since I speak no Spanish and can not even tell to NOT send a FAT chic![/QUOTE]Local guy and poster on this forum (el Aleman) from posts he is very very knowledgable.
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I have no idea of who you are refering to...perhaps due to the email address being deleted.
Although my travel plans were changed and my visit has been delayed a week or two, nobody intersted in hooking up while I am there and finding 3 or 4 chics and just abusing them for a couple of hours?
Is mongering dead in Guadalajara?
Hey Mou,
I am a local and would love to get in touch, the scene is ok, there are a few good spots, but it depends on what are you looking for, either the massage parlor, which I like the most ans escort scene, to wich my point of view it is a little overprice.
[QUOTE=Mou7189]I have no idea of who you are refering to...perhaps due to the email address being deleted.
Although my travel plans were changed and my visit has been delayed a week or two, nobody intersted in hooking up while I am there and finding 3 or 4 chics and just abusing them for a couple of hours?
Is mongering dead in Guadalajara?[/QUOTE]Cuahila is his handle Go back and see past posts on this thread he seems to be a local that is very knowledgable from what I have seen
Are you freaking nuts? 1500 - 2500 PESO? If you are paying that then you are running the price up for the rest of us. I would not pay that even in the states or anywhere else.
Which of the photos is of you? You are obviously not one of us. Poor has little do do with anything. Stupid does. Only a Chilango would pay those prices. Post again when you have some useful information.
[QUOTE=Petochas]The one that your you are poor is not my problem friend, the there very good truth and girls are worth each weight that payments.
[url]www.modelosgalilea.com[/url][/QUOTE]Moderator, This is for sure "Ramon" one of the pimp from Chicas Galilea, Chivas MG, former Petochas Model agency, etc. , It would be smart to ban him, besides they are a scam, I have called them maybe 12 times in the past 3 years and not accepted a single girl because all the photos are fake. The only good experience was like 8 years ago with a girl that was helping them in an emergency I guess "Roxanna" but she was an independent and Ramon didn't have girls by the time I called him and he sent me Roxanna but to his surprise I already knew her.
She was real babe, white soft skin, nice tits, light brown hair, shaved pussy, brown eyes, she was a ten that attend only upscale customers , she always arrived at the meetings driving her SLK Mercedes !
Well thats not the point, the thing here is that we don´t need pimps here!
So Ramon please go a do your propaganda somewhere else, and not in sexxxyprovoincia forum please because we know you well around there too.
poor? I don't think so my friend but just because you have $ would you pay 400 PESO for a Hot Dog? Didn't think so.
If you want to waiste your $ go right ahead but my problem is that you are making these girls think that they can get that kind of $ from the rest of us. You are the one who is destroying the sport of mongering.
[QUOTE=Mou7189]poor? I don't think so my friend but just because you have $ would you pay 400 PESO for a Hot Dog? Didn't think so.
If you want to waiste your $ go right ahead but my problem is that you are making these girls think that they can get that kind of $ from the rest of us. You are the one who is destroying the sport of mongering.[/QUOTE]Mou, this guy is a pimp or advertising agency. Best bet is gonna be when you get there contact the Coahila guy I told you about based on his posts he is in Guadalajara, and knows his stuff. Whenever you go through an agency like this where there alot of middle men the mark-up is going to be super big because everybody wants their cut. That being said cut out middle men in all dealings and you will find yourself geting your money's worth. Guadalajara is a wonderful place to go. Good women, Good food, good cigars, good tequila, what more can any one ask for? I'd jump on a filght right now in a heartbeat if I could and meet you there, whiel I am not an expert in art of mongering I can get myself around and spea spanish fluently so I can atleast translate for you if all else fails LOL, but business is kinda slow this year and I am going to ride out the hoiliday season and hope it picks up.
Unfortunately for many of you the good hill, all the girls of [url]www.modelosgalilea.com[/url] but of 50 girls with real photos, and as you veran you are really beautiful, I do not believe that if you do not have even money you to make the ridiculous one buy ferrari, truth? They can say what they want but good looking that no of you to contracted lately in our agency. I never initiate no aggression if they want to erase of the forum this good to me but she would only be observed the little intelligence and much poor woman of the members that estan angry by my commentary. But as in all sides always it exists the opportunity and variety can choose where to contract at to no we forced it moment to mark itself.
In your next trip to Guadalajara, they zapopan or tlaquepaque the best girls of all Mexico you would only find in [url]www.modelosgalilea.com[/url] but of 50 girls with real photos, sex-limousine, porno-star and much more.
Petochas is indeed a pimp, but I don't think he's trying to hide it:
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Mou, I've paid 5000 pesos for a hooker in Mexico. And I've paid 150 pesos. I know a woman who received 500,000 pesos for a 4 day weekend. She agreed to 120,000, but her client was generous. I laugh everytime I see you write "don't pay too much because you're ruining it for the rest of us and destroying the sport of mongering." That makes about as much sense as me telling all my friends not to pay too much for jewelry in Dubai because it will run the price up. Cut out the border towns, and I bet if you take the sum total of everyone on ISG, and then add every gringo who's ever *****d around in Mexico, in total they don't account for 2% of the patrons of Mexican prostitutes. And there's such a variety of hookers available at every price point from dirt cheap to very expensive.
If there were a Mongers Union and every male in Mexico agreed not to pay over 500 pesos, you're not going to start banging Divas for 500 pesos. They'd either sponge off of sugar daddies or go to Spain.
I enjoy your reports, but please consider being a little more enlightened about those who pay higher prices.
[QUOTE=Petochas]In your next trip to Guadalajara, they zapopan or tlaquepaque the best girls of all Mexico you would only find in [url]www.modelosgalilea.com[/url] but of 50 girls with real photos, sex-limousine, porno-star and much more.[/QUOTE]
Petochas, from Anonimo GDL, we know some of the photos on your web site aren't photos of the women that work there. How can we know the woman in the photo is the woman that will show up at our door? If I were to send you a private message and ask if the photos of a particular woman were real, would you let me know? I'm thinking English isn't your first language, so I'll translate,
De los comentarios de un miembro estimado aqui, Anonimo GDL, sabemos que hay fotos en tu sitio de ciertas mujeres que no trabajan por tu agencia. Como podemos saber si la mujer de la foto es la mujer que va a venir? Una sugerencia, si pagaras 19.95 USD para hacerte miembro de International Sex Guide, podriamos comunicar contigo con mensajes privados. Si uno de nosotros pensara en contratar a una chica, el podria comunicar contigo y preguntarte si las fotos de la chica particular son en realidad fotos de esa chica.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]You, I've paid 5000 pesos for a hooker in Mexico. And I've paid 150 pesos. I know a woman who received 500, 000 pesos for a 4 day weekend. She agreed to 120, 000, but her client was generous. I laugh everytime I see you write "don't pay too much because you're ruining it for the rest of us and destroying the sport of mongering. " That makes about as much sense as me telling all my friends not to pay too much for jewelry in Dubai because it will run the price up. Cut out the border towns, and I bet if you take the sum total of everyone on ISG, and then add every gringo who's ever *****d around in Mexico, in total they don't account for 2% of the patrons of Mexican prostitutes. And there's such a variety of hookers available at every price point from dirt cheap to very expensive.
If there were a Mongers Union and every male in Mexico agreed not to pay over 500 pesos, you're not going to start banging Divas for 500 pesos. They'd either sponge off of sugar daddies or go to Spain.
I enjoy your reports, but please consider being a little more enlightened about those who pay higher prices. [/QUOTE]tiny 12 you have just hit the nail here, Mou don't worry I guess we are taling about two differnets things here, pussy worth 400-600 pesos always will be worth that, I don't think somebody is goign to be realyy stupid and go to one of those nasty esteticas like mediterraneo and bang one of the fugly girls in there for 1200 pesos, that niche will always be there for you my friend. You should take advantange of the USD-MXP parity right now (13. 9 pesos per usd) you have a really nice leverage right now, unstuck your head out of the slumps and go and score something like alondra or alejandra for 1200 pesos you would really enjoy it and you might never want to go back to the fattys for 400 pesos. If you have never spent 1500-2000 pesos for a girl in the States my guess is you are doing quickies with crystal meth girls for 20 bucks in some nasty alley.
So please be more open to the idea of us paying more than 600 pesos for a girl because there are girls that really worth their weight in pesos, we have girls in Guadalajara or any part of Mexico that migh be expensive even for Elliot Spritzer, theres a huge market of pussy out there my friend and there will always be there something for you. In my case I'm only trying to share and enlighten fellow mongers with my experience with girls within my personal taste and budget of course, I feel comfortable paying 1500-2000 for a girl that fulfills my needs (looks and face mostly) and I'm totally against people like Ramon and Galileas trying to charge 1500-2500 for girls that are worth 800 pesos! Don't let your dick to decide for you when he arrives with the girls, just say no! He always shows up with 3 or 4 girls but none are worth the money he asks for.
Hey just wanted to chime in on this part of the thread. Certainly seems like the finances are getting strained all over the place these days. But just to let you know, the women only get to keep 1/2 of what they take in (on average). The other half goes to the agency that they work with / for.
I know this is true for High Class and a number of the agencies listed in the newspapers that you can contact by phone. Same with the agencies that the Motels de Paso use (those really nice looking, condominium style hotels that charge roughly $250 pesos for 8 hours on weekends, 12 hours during the week). I have made very good use of those hotels for pre-flight Mongering sessions as they are clean, bright, and have excellent showers overall (at least the ones on Avenida Colon do, near Periferico Sur along the tren ligero line).
So... The chica at High Class who gets a 1/2 hour service gets paid about $225 to $250 pesos. If she gets the hour service, she gets $450 pesos. I would assume the same with Modelos Galilea, though they have quite the website set up. I am very pleasantly surprised with the quality of the website and very proud that Mexicanos have been behind designing such sites. But the whole discussion on price and such here... I mean who on earth would pay a chica $500,000 pesos for 4 days? A NARCO!!! (Or a member of the Mexican Government, Military or Police... que es lo mismo! ja!) Turbulence over Mexico City my A...
But drug cartel politics aside, any lady working for an agency only gets to keep about half of what is paid. Independents are hard to find.
What I find particularly interesting about Modelos Galilea is that they are running on 1 cell phone number. The more successful agencies in Mexico City have a variety of phone lines, landlines, not cell phones. The sheer number of independents and agencies in Mexico City makes it difficult to make it if you only have 1 line. If someone calls and the line is busy, they will dial another agency. If you have several lines available and even with just one line operator you can still have a live voice at the other end to deal with. Out of curiosity I will contact Modelos Galilea very soon and report back with what I hear.
I am planning a trip to GDL very soon... hopefully around the beginning of December. I want to go see if the Geisha massage parlor is still in operation out back behind Sears. They are not far from Mediterraneo (in front of Howard Johnson hotel). I ALMOST went there once but the woman left in charge screwed up on the cost for an hour of service, so I went to Geisha. At that time I had a chica in Geisha named Susana, very nice, big rack, but a short girl. She was there a year leater and didn't recognize me. That time I went with a VERY busty gal named Sonia. She was freaked out a bit when I caressed her nipples with my tongue -- she liked it, but had had a very bad experience with a drunk Mexican man who bit her hard a few months back. Sonia really likes it doggie style and man, for those of you who like to titty fuck, she has the tits for it! VERY nice! She is a bit thick around the middle, but she is very, very skilled with every part of her body (well, I didn't do any backdoor activity, but that is probably available for the right price).
Geisha is listed on previous reports, 2 blocks from Sears, about 4 or 5 blocks up the street from Howard Johnson hotel. There is a large covered "food court" area with lots of great Mexican "antojitos" style food places. I have eaten there several times, great food, great prices, helps greatly if you speak Spanish, but they have pictures of their food in some of the menus so you can simply point something out.
I wish that mongering was legal in the U.S. But at least it is legal in Mexico! Que Viva Mexico!!! I guess those with enough cash can go to Nevada and pay through the nose for bad treatment at one of the "Ranches" - gotta have that Gringa woman "Wife Experience", right? Some of the best experiences and best treatment I have received from women have been from las bellas putas de Mexico... Bellas, beautiful, not always because they are physically appealing but because they tend to reciprocate based on how you treat them. They are doing this to support their families. If you happen to find one that is doing this to support a drug habit then you are better off selecting one that is using the money for her kids. This is not a judgement call, but safety-wise and GFE-wise you will fare much better with someone who is doing this for a nobler cause than getting her next fix of Perico up her nostrils.
Keep it covered when you head south :)
If I make it down to Guadalajara I will post to see if anyone else is around. I am bilingual and fluent and aside from mongering I also like buying very fine tequila and I know the location of a major distributor that is the ONLY one now that sells 1000 Agaves in Guadalajara. I had to travel to Michoacan to get that stuff once they stopped selling it in La Playa years ago.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Petochas, from Anonimo GDL, we know some of the photos on your web site aren't photos of the women that work there. How can we know the woman in the photo is the woman that will show up at our door? If I were to send you a private message and ask if the photos of a particular woman were real, would you let me know? I'm thinking English isn't your first language, so I'll translate,
De los comentarios de un miembro estimado aqui, Anonimo GDL, sabemos que hay fotos en tu sitio de ciertas mujeres que no trabajan por tu agencia. Como podemos saber si la mujer de la foto es la mujer que va a venir? Una sugerencia, si pagaras 19.95 USD para hacerte miembro de International Sex Guide, podriamos comunicar contigo con mensajes privados. Si uno de nosotros pensara en contratar a una chica, el podria comunicar contigo y preguntarte si las fotos de la chica particular son en realidad fotos de esa chica.[/QUOTE]We have a policy or guarantee if your flames 30 minutes before and we confirmed that the girl who your you look for this available, S.A. to arrive she at your door is not the one of the photo nonpayments. no agency in the world gives this guarantee you.
i guess it is just a difference in opinion but no pussy is worth the amount of peso that has been mentioned here. i don't really care if the girl only ends up with 1/2, 3/4, or 1/4 of what i pay. to me, part of this sport is finding the best piece of ass that you can for the least amount of money. when i hear of guys spending 1500 peso to 2500 peso it jacks the price up for the rest of us.
sorry if some of you feel i not being open minded, i try to be. but that is just crazy money for anywhere in the world to spend on a piece of ass. look, i have been in this sport for a long time and have gotten a piece from all parts of the world. with very, and i mean very few exceptions, anytime there is a middle man the experience has not been good. i have a rule now that i have learned from my personal experience. keep in mind, this rule may not apply to others but for me it is what i have learned.......if i can't see the goods before agreeing to the deal then i am not interested. now, i don't mean that the girl shows up and has to drop her clothes. i mean that i no longer call agencies not knowing what will show up at the door. i get so excited that my little head starts making the decisions for my big head and i have put the hammer to some fat ugly chicks over the years, simply because i got worked up waiting for them and when they showed up i was usually so drunk that the little head said to the big head...."hey, a piece of ass is better than no piece of ass."
so money aside, thanks but no thanks. i will keep hitting places like mediterean, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], etc.
o.k. as promised, i am reporting back on the escort service "modelos galilea". they have a snazzy website and use a cell phone to deal with incoming calls. i only called and asked about services, i did not use their services as, unfortunately, i am still in the u.s. for a while...
apparently, they are strict to the rule of their specials on the web. that means that at 10pm the $1,700 peso special for 1 hour is over and you have to book 2 hours at $2,500 pesos. either way i happen to agree with mou. getting your action while paying the least for it is better. i think most of us who are in this "hobby" know that paying more does not necessarily guarantee getting better treatment. in fact, there are situations where the more you pay the less you get for your peso / dollar.
also, not being able to see the chica beforehand really makes it tougher. at places like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], high class, mediterraneo, geisha and other massage parlors you get to see them first right in front of you, though you don't really have a chance to talk. plus, the prices are really good at many of these places with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] at the high end of the spectrum.
but when you are in town and at your hotel room and have no time or interest to trot down to a local massage parlor the other option is to call a service like the "modelos". if you are at a motel (motel de paso as the mexicanos lovingly refer to them) you just dial "0" and ask the friendly gal at the front desk that you want a "chica" and they will dial up their service of choice and patch you through on the phone and you set up the "date". or you can dial one of many services that you can get from some newspapers. personally i like these motels because they are very modern (some built just a year or two ago), have plenty of hot water and tend to have huge beds - plus they are cheap, roughly between $250 to $350 pesos for 8 hours. the beds are not meant to sleep in (the mattresses are a bit stiff... the sheets, hopefully not too stiff ;) hehe! but you can if you want, just don't overstay or they will hit you for another $250-$350 peso charge.
but going back to my phone call to "modelos galilea". a man answered the phone and spoke to me in spanish. i didn't try to speak in english but went ahead with my spanish which is pretty good, but anyone from mexico can tell it has an american accent. i was quoted the price on the website ($1,700) and told that the promotion time was ending and after 10pm it would be the standard $2,500 for 2 hours. i asked about the ladies available and he said the promotion was only good for the ones listed online for the promotion but that after 10pm all the others were available except for three that were out of the city.
so, it does seem to me that he is only running on one cell phone. my guess is that he calls the ladies afterwards on their cell phones and directs them to go to the site of the "job" (hotel, house, etc.). he may have his own driver(s) to pickup and deliver and pickup the ladies (and thus guarantee that he gets paid) or the ladies may be responsible for their own transport.
so, someone out there who has used their services will have to post more about the actual "delivery" if these ladies are true to the pic on the website. if i make it down there this year i will try to use their service though the cost is rather high. for $1,700 i could go to high class three times for three 1/2 hour to 45 minute services and there is no hotel cost, plus high class gives you a free soda or bottled water =)
so, we'll see. at least i can say that the guy was courteous on the phone and though cell phone calls are not as good as land-line calls, i could understand what he said ok. he mentioned that the girl would generally arrive to the hotel room in roughly 30 minutes as long as it was within the city boundaries. 30 to 45 minutes is generally what i have experienced when i have used call services in the past (in gdl i've just used the services provided by the hotel - they call the escort service and patch me through on the phone and i handle the negotiation and choose what they have to offer "sight unseen".)
i have been rather lucky with these services -- although you get some 4's and 5's on looks i have found some of them to be the 9's and 10's on action, satisfaction and repeat action! the last chica i got was a real cutie, though!!! we even spent the next days together "off the clock" and we went to the feria de guadalajara together and she stayed with me a few days and sex was fun and frequent. damned it sucked so much when she lost her cell phone months later as i have never been able to track her down since. i absolutely hate cell phones for this reason... i have lost track of some of the best sex workers i have ever had over the years because of their damned cell phones getting lost, stolen, broken, etc... there is nothing like an email address - just wish some of these chicas knew how to use the internet.
next time i get one that i really like, i am going to pay her for her time just to get her into an internet cafe and show her how to use the internet and get her an email address and have her practice emailing me.
so good luck you mongers heading to gdl! bang'em extra for me! :) i hope to make it down there this year or early next year.
Dude, you are totally buying the product of Galileas, of course he works on a cell phone and do you really think he has 100's of girls and needs several land lines? His website is really crappy and has really really old pictures, since it was petochas agency.
I know this guy well and he drives around in hs car with 3 or 4 girls, sometimes he picks up some girl at a plaza other house, and he gets in touch with other girls that have their own "agencies" too to have more material, but those are girls that I wouldn't pay more than 1000 pesos an hour.
When he arrives to the motel, he goes up to your rooom with the girl and tries so hard to covince you that the girl in your room in the one in the pic, he even puts his sony clie with the photo of the girl side to side and tells you with a smurk in his face "es la misma, igualita", hoping that you are thinking with your dick and not your brains what a fucktard!
A year ago I called him he started at 2500 for an hour, and I said "no this is not the girl in the photos" so he started giving me deals, 2000 for an hour, 1800, 1500, 1200! And I say no thanks and he got really pissed and leave cursing. Thats the last time I call them and I swear not to call him again.
So if you really want to risk your money buy GM stocks, Galilea is the same thing as any other agency; you don't know whats coming but you know it would certainly suck but with a 1500 pesos overprice.
So if you hope that you might get a gem like I was hopping too and decide to call Galileas be ready to say no and be tough on your decision and don't let Ramon convince you and also he a true prick because he uses the girl as a leverage when both the girl and him are in your room she will put her sad puppy face.
You might be better calling one of the divas in town for 2000-2500 pesos, whom actually are the girls in the photos but way too photoshoped almost all the time, but I have gotten better odds with the Divas 1 out of 5 maybe are true sculptures (I'm way too picky) maybe for some always are true sculptures.
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Any mongering, esteticas, independents in the lakeside area?
Ajijic, Jocotopec, Chapala or lakeside?
I have contributed to the board - see my reports on Guadalajara (Trent100) .
I hate to have to drive in to the city and was hoping someone could help me out with something Lakeside.
Sincere thanks in advance
Trent
Great Investigative reporting!
You are right about the high price not meaning better service or a better looking girl. I have overpaid for services far far too many times, and more times than not it was through an agency.
Usually when I am in Mexico, I am not there for long periods of time. Two days and two nights is the max and it usually is 1 day and 1 night. So basically, I don't have time to waiste just want to get right into the action.
I have had one agency experience in GDL and it was just so so. Speaking no spanish I am at a huge disadvantage but I asked for help here and I eventually got it. I wrote notes down, I printed pages, printed street mapes, and arrived in GDL a bit earlier in the day. For some reason, I like staying in the downtown area and just walking around. I have always felt safe in GDL. I had mapped out a stragety but on the way to the hotel I spotted the Wal Mart and the Mission Carelton Hotel. I remebered a place that was close by so even though it was 20 minute walk back to that area from my hotel, I made the walk anyway. I spotted Mediterreneo walked right past it not realizing what it was. I actually though it was a bueaty parlor where girls went to get there hair and nails down. I turned around and went back. For me, I liked the fact that the girls were paraded in front of me one by one and I got to choose which one I wanted. It was a great experience and for me, not speaking any spanish, I could care less what the conversation was.
Keep up the good reporting and perhaps our paths will cross one day in GDL. If you ever make it to Detroit, let me know and I will steer you in the right direction.
I am on my way down to Mexico in a week or so! I will be in Guadalajara much of the time, but I will also be traveling a bit down towards Colima too for other things... but for mongering, Guadalajara it is!
Thanks AnonimoGDL for the report on "Ramon el Mamon" of Galileas. He sounds like the kind of guy I would probably want to beat with an iron pipe after talking to him for a few minutes. I may or may not try Galileas now. I guess he has paid some company to run his website as I remember it has some origins outside of Mexico (the web engine behind his site). Anyway... if he has any Xmas specials going I might call him up but I will take your advice. If the girl isn't the one from the pic I will bargain the price down or tell him to get out of the room with his chica and I'll go for the $800 peso per hour competition (that is the price I have paid in the past for "room service, sight unseen" and have had decent results with - just whatever agency the hotel called up).
I am definitely going to go by Geisha to see if Sonia and Susana are still working there and I will try out Mediterraneo as well. And of course, I like going to High Class though I will have to figure out how to get there by bus from where I am staying :) So I will definitely be a "ho-ho-hoing" this Xmas! :) If anyone else is going to be in GDL for Xmas PM me or mention it here. We can spread some Xmas cheer at the massage parlors :)
El Mojado,
Please take a few swings at Ramon for me if you happen to meet up with him.
There is a chance that I may be in Guadalajara over the next several weeks. I will keep you posted but if I do make I would be more than glad to monger with you.
Please report back on the scene when you return.
Mou
December 2008
As reported by someone else (whom I am grateful too. But I forget his name).
I can offer no new information but validate what he has already posted.
I was driving from Chapala to Ajijic along the main carretera and saw David's Bar and remembered it from the other post.
As I was about to park and enter a Mexican walking by basically hollered at me and waved his fingers telling me in Spanish something that roughly translated to. Your loco man the "puerto negro" is way too expensive.
He continued to walk away but I waved him over. I ask some questions and he recommended a bar down the road. His english was ok and I instinctively recognized a fellow mongerer and I got him to jump in the car and show me exactly where the other place was. Turns out the other place is on the lake side of the road and is called CRU II, it is about 1/2 KM from David's going towards Ajijic. Since this was the late afternoon neither David's or Cru II had any chicas. But both places definitely occassionally have them. I think Davids has them on a more regular basis. [Inviting a stranger into your car in any country is probably not a good idea, so don't imitate me]
On a return visit to David's I saw 3 chica's none of them I would spend money on. The best of the lot was a medium gordita named Erica. I bought her a drink (drinks for ladies cost more. For me it was 40 pesos and the barman gave her a mini Coronorita. For that.) The girl will hang witch you as long as she has the drink. Given it was a Coronarita it wasnt going to be that much time I specifically wanted information to post here.
Her starting rate was 1000 pesos. Dream on. I asked her how much for a simple hand job and she said 500 pesos and I looked at her like she was loco. A brief negotiation got her down to 300 but maybe her bottom price would have been a little lower.
All in all there is probably mongering or hobbying to be had lakeside but anything worthwhile is few and far between.
Save your peso's and get into Guadalajara.
I had a decent time ith a scrumptious chic named Alyssa at High Class. (See my next report) as of December 2008 the price for 35 minutes is 550.
Please share any Lakeside info you may have. I did the Billiards place in Jocotopec a few years ago and it gets some lookers late at night but it is not really my scene. I have been told they are ALL just wham-bam-than-u-mam types who screw you in shoddy filth encrusted rooms upstairs. Esteticas are MUCH more hygenic. (my opinion)
Now PLEASE someone share more information for me. Where is there a Mascuilinas Esteticas lakeside? Or even a legit massage place (there are a dozen here. That has a chic that will give a happy ending). I would easily pay 500 pesos for a good therepeutic 1 hour massage with a happy ending.
Hope you enjoyed my post.
December 2008
High Class has been reviewed here several times before. But a dated review is always worthwhile in my opinion.
Here are the details bullet style for your reading pleasure.
1) How to get there.
From Chapala getting there took me forever. I got SO LOST its not even funny. Get on to the Avenue Lazarro Cardenas. Its a main thoroughfare you need a map or mapquest or whatever.
Here is the key. Keep heading WEST on Lazarro Cardenas and pass the huge yellow arches. RIGHT at this Yellow Arch. "Art Piece" is one of Guad's multiple Roundabouts and its a *****. Trying to navigate back on to Avenue Lazarro Cardenas is the challenge. You will head right and if memory serves me right its the Second right on the roundabout. A Tapatio should help me here.
Lazarro Cardenas is a main highway but all the addresses ARE on the Laterals that run on either side. If you heading West on Ave Laz. Cardenas you actually have to PASS High Class and double back on the Lateral that heads EASTBOUND. Sounds complex but once you get passed the Arch its rather easy and WORTH THE TRIP. Stick with it.
Address: Lazaro Cardenas 2913
2) The price: 550 Pesos as of December 2008
3) The routine. The girl whose turn it is will lead you into a room and try to make you her client. DO NOT FALL FOR THIS. Ask to see all the girls.
Bad Spanish but here it is anyway.
Queiro mirar todas las chicas por favor. Phonetically: Kee-Yaro Mee-RARR TOE-DAS Lass Cheekas POR Fav-OR
They will walk buy and tell you their name. PAY ATTENTION. The name is the important part to see the chica you want.
4) Who I saw. Alyssa. Twice. She is a CUTIE. Didn't finish the first time and went for the second, paid again she left and came back.
The second round she REALLY tried to short time and it worked, the first session she was responsive, listened to my suggestions and it was great. It was kinda like she lost her libido and sensuality the second time. The mood spoiler might have been having to leave, pay the boss and them come back.
The previous time I did the same thing but saw two different chicas. If your in the mood for TWO pick two different girls.
Anyways Alyssa session 1 was awesome.
Looks: 8 Attitude: 8 Repeat factor: 8 English: 3 or less (but who really cares)
Overall a good experience.
Hope this is helpful.
Trent
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i am planning my first trip to guadalajara next week. can anyone recomend a cheep as in 250 mx that is close to high class and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
thanks for your help
Hi
I tried to put a map together to assist my searching in Guadalajara I am not sure of the accuracy when no full address was available. Please have a look and repair and add.
[url]http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=49.891235,-97.15369&spn=28.068535,78.75&z=4[/url]
I've mongered a very long time in Nogales Sonora, fluent in spanish and some what know my way around Guadalajara with the help of a map.
I grew up in this wonderous city, but it changes everytime I return and I spent the better park of my life in the US. I have been planning on reducing my visits to Nogales and visiting Guadalajara more often to be closer to family and my heart. I've never chased tail in this city, free or paid, so a few pointers would be appreciated. I could figure things out for myself but why bash my head against the wall when all the leg work has been done. I am studying previous post to this forum and gaining much knowledge. I have a home in the city so a place to stay is not a problem.
The information that I'm looking for, I don't want to ask my cousins, are there any places in around Avenida Vallarta and las Americas, because my house is nearby and or maybe in the downtown area near the Centro historico near the Cathedral.
Just looking for something to get me going.
LOBO
Lobo, For info regarding free tail, do a search under Usernames Anonimo GDL and Coahuila. While I still believe anybody in town for a short time is better off seeing pros, they've posted some good info that would be helpful to you, given that you're going to be spending a lot of time in Guadalajara.
There are a number of esteticas masculinas reasonably close to Av. Vallarta and Av. de las Americas, assuming you're talking about the east end of Vallarta, towards downtown. Eduard, close to the Minerva, is a good one. See [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=530867&postcount=415[/url] Or just look in the yellow pages under esteticas masculinas.
In the downtown area you describe there are cheap hookers that work outside cheap hotels -- not really my scene and I've only done it once. This scene is well described if you spend some time reading the thread.
There's a local forum in Guadalajara. I don't remember the address, but if you do a search under Anonimo GDL, or maybe under my name for really old posts, you can find it.
Hey everyone!! I was just in Mexico and spent 5 weeks down there, most of it in Guadalajara. I had to move stuff out of a house that was loaned to me for a few years in a city just south of Guad and I spent a lot of time doing that and way TOO MUCH time driving in Guadalajara's horrid traffic.
But to counter the awful part of the trip (moving and driving in Guadalajara) I went to High Class on Saturday and there was a beautiful line up of women!
I chose NANCY! She had a beautiful face and I really enjoyed her smile and her body was nice, but not as nice as some of the other ladies. I just had a very strong feeling I would enjoy her better and receive better treatment and my instincts were not wrong!
She had a baby in October, so she still has a tiny bit of baby fat. She is lactating so she is very self conscious about any "leaking".. no problem for me, but she was not into allowing any guy's mouth around her nipples (with good reason, she is still nursing). Anyway... she had just started working at the agency just a week before so she is new to this. She is around 28 or 29 years old, nice boobs, nice rear and very personable and sweet.
I went for the 30 minute session, $550 pesos (they raised their prices, but the dollar is now at $14.40 pesos per dollar!) and I opted not to get any kind of massage or rub down and went straight to the sexual activities =) (this was after I took a nice, hot shower! very welcome to have a LOT of water spraying out of the shower head instead of where I had been staying at which is just a plugged up trickle of water)
So she rubbed my penis until it got very hard (not long with a beauty like her in front of my eyes). I rubbed her back and rear and all over her with my hand and she put the condom on, some lube and asked what I wanted to start out with. She started with a CBJ, then we moved to her being on top and I got a great view of those baby feeding boobs bouncing up and down... oh, man... she was SUPER HOT temperature wise inside... very nice, though she didn't take her bra off completely. I would guess that being filled with milk they would hurt bouncing around like that...
After a while of that we switched over to doggie style and she just moaned like she was coming right and left... not sure if she was faking it or not, but she really enjoyed it and didn't seem to want to stop. Then we became conscious of the time and we finished off in MISH and had a great conversation. She is very sweet and doesn't speak any English. I asked her if she wanted to learn and she said she wanted to start taking English classes. I told her that there are many American men who come to use this place and that if she can learn English she would be able to meet some of them as one of the biggest complaints on here is that the women don't speak English. So hopefully Nancy will pick up some English and you fellow mongers can encourage her by going and choosing her and encouraging her English skills. :)
She works Monday through Saturday, does not work on Sunday. I would have chosen her on Sunday but I had some extra problems that day and my flight was Sunday evening so I didn't go back to HC this trip. But next time I will go and hopefully Nancy will still be there! I will report back if I find her and see if her English skills have improved.
She is not a stunning knockout, but very few are at HC though there were some stunning ladies there Saturday. I have had great luck getting newbies at HC and they tend to be the best service providers... I still don't forget about jennifer from HC some years ago... she could DFK the paint off a jumbo jet! Few ladies DFK, especially at places like HC.
Hehehe... just saw that post of yours, made me laugh! No, I didn't do any incall this trip... just dropped into HC and walked by what used to be Jovi... Sadly, Jovi is no more... it is abandoned, overgrown with weeds and the gates are locked. There is a banner over the gates with a cell phone number and it says the building is for sale. Too bad...
I did walk by another place on Lopez Mateos heading South from Lazaro Cardenas that charged $500 pesos for 45 minutes. I had already enjoyed my time with Nancy at HC but I couldn't pass up going into another massage parlor for a look at the ladies. Unfortunately, the ladies in there at that hour were quiet nasty looking... 4's at best... although their attitudes were 8's. I think when you compare almost any Mexican woman to American women their attitudes are 8's 9's and 10's! jejejeje!!!
Anyway, I got their card but left it in Mexico :( but they are less than 1 full block up Lopez Mateos Sur on the right hand side of Lopez Mateos sur if you are heading towards Lazaro Cardenas. They are very close to some restaurant and regular businesses. It was just 1 hour before closing on a Saturday so very few women were there. One looked like she should have been a member of the ELZN, very militant looking and muscular, but a bit on the heavy side. She would have been interesting indeed! (great muscle tone)
I am probably going back to Mexico in March or April... Anyone else going there around that time? The businesses are going to be hurting for action because Cuaresma (Lent) kicks in and some Mexicanos abstain from going out for sex. It is really bad around Easter, though...
I also walked by Mediterraneo and Geisha. They are still in operation, but they were closed (Sunday around Xmas time) and so I wasn't able to get current price information. Next trip, though, I sure will!
[QUOTE=Lobo 003]The information that I'm looking for, I don't want to ask my cousins, are there any places in around Avenida Vallarta and las Americas, because my house is nearby and or maybe in the downtown area near the Centro historico near the Cathedral.[/QUOTE]
You will find P4P activity in the area around the Mercado at Plaza San Juan de Dios. The streets there have outgoing activity in the evening.
[quote=professor 1]you will find p4p activity in the area around the mercado at plaza san juan de dios. the streets there have outgoing activity in the evening.[/quote]hell no! those areas are for locals, and even for us are really dangerous. of course, you'll fin a fuck for 15dlls but also an herpes, vph, and with some luck, even a stab xd
by the area you mention you'll find plenty massage rooms, the more secure way on the city for visitors. there's the barba azul, a two blocks form americas on vallarta avenue, in front of a cousin school. the girls are not that hot, and is a little bit expensive (100 dlls, aprox) but the place is nice and clean. by the sourroundings you will find another two, i think, but i not remember the exact adress: s you can ask for rincon real, is on lerdo de tejada paralell to vallarta avenue, and like a three or two blocks from the americas avenue. they have a poor selection, the price is a little more that it is in barba azul, but some times times they have a really good girls (some times only: d) and the place is really quiet and nice.
personally, i better recommend take a cab and ask for the estética [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], the best place in town. the price is the same (100), but the girls are a lot much better looking.
but, if you want to expend a little less, also, take a cab and go to the mediterraneo, in front of the carlton hotel on niños heroes avenue. the girls are ok, the place is clean, and the service cost like 35dlls.
my advice is: take away from the calzada, is not a really safe place at last you have a local friend who guide you in there.
¡salute!
[quote=professor 1]you will find p4p activity in the area around the mercado at plaza san juan de dios. the streets there have outgoing activity in the evening.[/quote][quote=professor 1]you will find p4p activity in the area around the mercado at plaza san juan de dios. the streets there have outgoing activity in the evening.[/quote]hell no! those areas are for locals, and even for us are really dangerous. of course, you'll fin a fuck for 15dlls but also an herpes, vph, and with some luck, even a stab xd
by the area you mention you'll find plenty massage rooms, the more secure way on the city for visitors. there's the barba azul, a two blocks form americas on vallarta avenue, in front of a cousin school. the girls are not that hot, and is a little bit expensive (100 dlls, aprox) but the place is nice and clean. by the sourroundings you will find another two, i think, but i not remember the exact adress: s you can ask for rincon real, is on lerdo de tejada paralell to vallarta avenue, and like a three or two blocks from the americas avenue. they have a poor selection, the price is a little more that it is in barba azul, but some times times they have a really good girls (some times only: d) and the place is really quiet and nice.
personally, i better recommend take a cab and ask for the estética [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], the best place in town. the price is the same (100), but the girls are a lot much better looking.
but, if you want to expend a little less, also, take a cab and go to the mediterraneo, in front of the carlton hotel on niños heroes avenue. the girls are ok, the place is clean, and the service cost like 35dlls.
my advice is: take away from the calzada, is not a really safe place at last you have a local friend who guide you in there.
¡salute!
[quote=cesar riva]
personally, i better recommend take a cab and ask for the estética [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], the best place in town. the price is the same (100), but the girls are a lot much better looking.[/quote]
i'll second that -- you can always count on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] to have reasonably attractive women and good rooms.
[QUOTE=Cesar Riva]Hell no! Those areas are for locals, and even for us are really dangerous. Of course, you'll fin a fuck for 15dlls but also an herpes, VPH, and with some luck, even a stab xD[/QUOTE]
I did visit High Class during the day, which was nice and clean. However, I did find a diamond in the rough near the Mercado around 10:30 P.M. one night, after putting some distance between a trannie and myself. Let us just say that my Spanish came in handy. Fortunately, someone distracted and retained the trannie for me. Got a motel room, and stayed most of the night with the girl that I found. Since I already paid for the room, I left and caught a cab around 3:00 P.M. back to my residence. I let the girl keep the room. It actually was a pleasant GFE. She kept asking why I was leaving. I said that I simply had an interview in the morning, and had to go. I do not suggest the Mercado area to anyone, or even most people. However, there is company to be had if you are a street-smart person.
[QUOTE=Professor 1] I do not suggest the Mercado area to anyone, or even most people. However, there is company to be had if you are a street-smart person.[/QUOTE]You're probably right, but for the average turist is one of the city's point you should avoid until you get familiarized or speak good spanish.
salute!
hey is anyone going to be in the area around this timeframe? if so pm me or reply here... maybe we can get a "humpy easter" group together! hehehe... i am more budget conscious, but my spanish is very good so i can get by with what i find at high class. but [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is very close to hc, as are a few other places in that area. lopez mateos is close and there are lots of good places to eat and enjoy around there that are not "hobby" related.
anyway... my plans are not finalized yet, so i don't know which days i will actually be in guadalajara yet as i have some committments with family in the jalisco area, but i just know it will be around that time so if you area already heading there let me know.
easter sunday is april 12! so let's go chase some tail beforehand and maybe even on easter monday for you traveling from across the pond!
Will be in town for 3 nights Tues-Thurs. If anyone wants to meet up let me know!
hey i am heading out to gdl around the 15th, but only for about two or three weeks tops. there is a place i saw on lopez mateos right close to the intersection with lazaro cardenas that charges $500 pesos for roughly 45 minutes but i got there very late and had already been to high class where it is $550 pesos for 30 minutes. with the exchange rate as it is, high class is about $37 usd for the half hour and the other place is a better deal as far as time goes, but i don't have a clue what the facilities look like inside other than the greeting area. hc has clean facilities and i love that they have lots of hot water for the showers.
anyone been to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] recently? the girls in there always look great but the reviews have hardly been that great (good looks do not automatically equal enthusiasm)
looking forward to enjoying this trip, short but sweet especially since it will be during lent! love those catholics - they'll leave the naughtiest girls to us! :)
So is there any website similar to Craigslist for mexico for erotic services?
Or whats a good escort site
Thanks in advance
I think you are looking for this:
[url]http://www.mundoanuncio.com.mx/[/url]
Good luck
[QUOTE=Icewood313]So is there any website similar to Craigslist for mexico for erotic services?
Or whats a good escort site
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
Too bad there is not a place to get a list of providers and or ***** house clubs, that has rates and numbers of chica's. Guad prices seem all over the map. And nothing seems organised, however being from canada with spanglish, I may not be able to get the info. There has to be hundreds of little bars and clubs with puntang?
I caught the tail end of Sexo Urbano on HBO last night, which was about sex in Guadalajara -- they seemed to be focusing on table dance clubs and swingers. Anyway, one guy in the program said there was one man and one homosexual for every three women in Guadalajara. Dream on!
I will be in GDL April 5-9 if you guys want to get a group together.
[quote=el mojado]hey is anyone going to be in the area around this timeframe? if so pm me or reply here... maybe we can get a "humpy easter" group together! hehehe... i am more budget conscious, but my spanish is very good so i can get by with what i find at high class. but [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is very close to hc, as are a few other places in that area. lopez mateos is close and there are lots of good places to eat and enjoy around there that are not "hobby" related.
anyway... my plans are not finalized yet, so i don't know which days i will actually be in guadalajara yet as i have some committments with family in the jalisco area, but i just know it will be around that time so if you area already heading there let me know.
easter sunday is april 12! so let's go chase some tail beforehand and maybe even on easter monday for you traveling from across the pond![/quote]hi,
i am in guadalajara at the moment until the end of april. how are you finding it here?
simon
[QUOTE=Strike2]I think you are looking for this:
[url]http://www.mundoanuncio.com.mx/[/url]
Good luck[/QUOTE]Hi Strike2, how "mundoanuncio" compares to "vivastreet", is there also a lot of fake photos ?
Did you have some experiencies with "mundoanuncio"? please share with us.
I was going to Guadalajara next week but am canceling. I heard one report that came from someone who owns ambulances that he's transported several people in GDL that had the flu, and a second report, filtered through two people, that 100 people, patients and doctors, have died in GDL from the flu in a single large hospital. I believe the first report, but not the second. I understand some schools and businesses will close next week and traffic in the malls is way down.
I may be paranoid, but wonder if there are a couple of considerations for people like us -- could you travel to Mexico and then get stuck there because some kind of a quarantine on flights between there and the extranjero? And do you really want to be kissing a prostitute when there's a flu epidemic, with high fatality rates, going around?
I'm looking to meet a local girl to travel with to see the Colonial Cities. I don't speak Spanish, so how easy is it to get a girl to be your "girl friend" to travel with. I see there is some dating company that arranges trips to find wives to GDL. I don't care if she is from that of P4P, just want to know what my possibilities are. If P4P how much would it cost per day?
[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]I'm looking to meet a local girl to travel with to see the Colonial Cities. I don't speak Spanish, so how easy is it to get a girl to be your "girl friend" to travel with. I see there is some dating company that arranges trips to find wives to GDL. I don't care if she is from that of P4P, just want to know what my possibilities are. If P4P how much would it cost per day?[/QUOTE]
I think you're going to have a tough time. You might try contacting a lot of women on something like cybercupido.com or amigos.com. Maybe you'll come across an English speaker that would have spare time and might be willing to travel with you after she's met you in person.
Any advice whatsoever for paying for action in Ajijic? I am really not interested in going to any of the 3 aforementioned brothels in the Lakeside area, so isn't there a way to just call up an escort service for a reasonable $500 pesos or so? I checked Models Galilena or soemthing and Zona Divas but they seem to be stupidly pricy and the call girls all seem to be located in Guadalajara. Any tips would be really appreciated. There is a lot of retiree money down here and if someone could put together a door-to-door service in Ajijic or neighboring Chapala, there's a lot of money to be had.
You made mention of 3 brothels in the Lakeside area. Search as I might I couldn't find reference to them. Could you elaborate please?
[QUOTE=Udo D]Any advice whatsoever for paying for action in Ajijic? I am really not interested in going to any of the 3 aforementioned brothels in the Lakeside area, [/QUOTE]
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Finally I am planning a trip to Guadalajara, planning eating some good food, smoking some good cigars, and drinking some good tequila, and last but not least nailng some hot Mexicanas. Question fellas, I plan on checking out all the spots Eteticas etc. But I need some input what hotels are Okay with you taking a lady friend upstairs to your room? I was planning on staying at one of these, Quinta Real, Hillton, camino Real? Hotel Morelos Historic District, or any of the Holiyday Inns? Fiesta Americana? (whichever gives me more room and luxury for my money). I want to stay some where nice (or decent) as I don't travel often, and the times I do want to enjoy it. Which nice hotels are lady-friendly? I haven't stayed at any of them before and past trips I was staying at a relatives. Any input would greatly be appreciated. I have heard stories of guys having to make a "walk of shame" or even get paged in the room demanding the lady leave. I don't want that to happen. Help.
[QUOTE=Saul Espinoza]I was planning on staying at one of these, Quinta Real, Hillton, camino Real? Hotel Morelos Historic District, or any of the Holiyday Inns? Fiesta Americana? (whichever gives me more room and luxury for my money. Which nice hotels are lady-friendly? [/QUOTE]If you're discrete and your date doesn't look like a hooker, you can get into any of the large hotels. At least that's been my experience at Crowne Plaza, Presidente Guadalajara, Howard Johnson's, and the Camino Real on Vallarta. On your list it should also apply to the Hilton, Fiesta Americana and Holiday Inn (and Holiday Inn Expresses) too. Where people make a mistake is coming to the hotel at 5:00 AM with a slinky-dressed stripper or having an escort show up unaccompanied. I definitely remember reading about someone who had problems at the Presidente, and I think I might have read about a problem at the Camino Real.
I've stayed at the Quinta Real, but registered the woman who was staying with me. Because of the set up of the lobby and small size of the hotel, you may attract some attention there. I suspect they'd let her into your room, but don't know. This is the nicest hotel on your list by the way.
If you want a sure thing with no walk of shame or expect to entertain a stream of street *****s, pick a place where you can drive up to your room. I like the Hotel Tapatio, although if you want to be close to the esteticas or if you're picky about quality it might not be your cup of tea.
I always stay at the Holiday Inn Select on Ninos Heroes and have NEVER had a problem. I have a regular who comes over every time I'm in town and I just give her my room number. If I'm on the Executive Floor I just come down to the lobby and meet her there and we both go up. The best advice I can give is: tell her (or the booker) to have her dress conservatively, if possible have her show up before 9PM or after 8 in the morning. They usually have a couple seminars/meetings going on and the lobby is literally full of beautiful Tapatias so one more will not be questioned.
Have a great time- I wish I was going back soon!!!
Anyone know of a free mexican dating web site.
Most let you search for free then suck you and want you to buy membership to communicate with the chicas.
One in or that has some english would be great.
Cheers,
Vdd
Anyone have a independent private little ajijic area, **** to share?
I hear there are a few young independent students looking for some spending money, but can't seem to locate them.
[QUOTE=Vandaddio]Anyone have a independent private little ajijic area, **** to share?
I hear there are a few young independent students looking for some spending money, but can't seem to locate them.[/QUOTE]
Here's a good place to look......
[url]http://search.vivastreet.com.mx/escorts-masajistas+guadalajara-y-area-met?lb=new&search=1&start_field=1&cat_1=133&keywords=&sp_personals_age[/url][end]=&sp_common_main_type=Mujer&sp_common_second_type=&searchGeoId=143&searchGeo_text=&submit=Buscar&end_field=
Bbond, thanks for that link. I knew there had to be more.
Now if my spanish was better or a english version of that site.
Have you ever ordered off that site?
I had a few bad experiences in Guad with bait and switch, everytime for that matter. Never have gotten the girl in photo.
What is your experience for prices? And gringo prices?
There seems like alot of nice selection on this site, so am going to take a dive into it when I return to Lakeside in the fall.
Thanks again.
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you can say what you want but no person is given a lower price that is offered on the site so we are the best because we are not looking for poories nor they us. On this page we noticed more than one person for being poor or narrow-minded for treating him decently, y7 is attacking us because of their mistakes by hiring in other places, to offer shares nuetras guarantee that in less than a current year will again have their money and in another year will see their money grow twice as fast, it's better talking business, people like you who discredit people think helps them become better human not even take into account, but comments like this that it was even verbally abused if verdaeramente answered that are lacking in ethics and moral
[QUOTE=Anonimo Gdl]Dude, you are totally buying the product of Galileas, of course he works on a cell phone and do you really think he has 100's of girls and needs several land lines? His website is really crappy and has really really old pictures, since it was petochas agency.
I know this guy well and he drives around in hs car with 3 or 4 girls, sometimes he picks up some girl at a plaza other house, and he gets in touch with other girls that have their own "agencies" too to have more material, but those are girls that I wouldn't pay more than 1000 pesos an hour.
When he arrives to the motel, he goes up to your rooom with the girl and tries so hard to covince you that the girl in your room in the one in the pic, he even puts his sony clie with the photo of the girl side to side and tells you with a smurk in his face "es la misma, igualita", hoping that you are thinking with your dick and not your brains what a fucktard!
A year ago I called him he started at 2500 for an hour, and I said "no this is not the girl in the photos" so he started giving me deals, 2000 for an hour, 1800, 1500, 1200! And I say no thanks and he got really pissed and leave cursing. Thats the last time I call them and I swear not to call him again.
So if you really want to risk your money buy GM stocks, Galilea is the same thing as any other agency; you don't know whats coming but you know it would certainly suck but with a 1500 pesos overprice.
So if you hope that you might get a gem like I was hopping too and decide to call Galileas be ready to say no and be tough on your decision and don't let Ramon convince you and also he a true prick because he uses the girl as a leverage when both the girl and him are in your room she will put her sad puppy face.
You might be better calling one of the divas in town for 2000-2500 pesos, whom actually are the girls in the photos but way too photoshoped almost all the time, but I have gotten better odds with the Divas 1 out of 5 maybe are true sculptures (I'm way too picky) maybe for some always are true sculptures.
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I'll be visiting Guadalajara very soon.
I usually visit the MP's but since I will be on an extended stay I would like to find bars or night clubs with a TARGET rich enviroment.
Any recommendations would be appreicated?
[QUOTE=CA Traveler II]I'll be visiting Guadalajara very soon.
I usually visit the MP's but since I will be on an extended stay I would like to find bars or night clubs with a TARGET rich enviroment.
Any recommendations would be appreicated?[/QUOTE]
If you're looking for a regular bar or nightclub where there are mostly professionals, I can't help. There are lots and lots of table dance clubs, both expensive places and dives. Many or most of the women can be had on or off the premises. I've only been shot down in the Men's Club and Golden. If it's an expensive place you're better off arranging for something the next day or after she finishes work. It's been a couple of years since I've been into a table dance club in GDL by the way, so I can't give you advice on the best places right now.
As to nonpros, become a member of ISG if you're not already and do a search for users Coahuila and Anonimo GDL -- they've posted on that.
Hola fellow punters!
Unless things have changed over the past few months, Guadalajara major hotels like Intercontinental Presidente, Hilton or Crown Plaza are in general non-GF friendly.
I've tried to enter with a girl on my arm (sometimes two), tried through the entrance from the garage, asked girls to dress conservatively and come alone, not much success. The security is pretty tight, well trained and I was politely but firmly asked to register the guest and pay extra. I realize that they are doing their job and protecting other guests but nevertheless it was pissing me off.
It's not about money but the principle as I hate to pay extra to the hotel for having a guest over since it does not cost them a broken peso to allow a guest to bring a girl for a visit. The same principle applies to tipping security guards. I knew that a tip of just 100 pesos may get me through but I refuse to pay for something that I believe I have a God-given-right to get for free.
After a couple of months of playing this cat-and-mouse game with the security guards I found a solution. I always had a rented a car but you can do it in a taxi as well.
Just drive to Motor Hotel Loma Bonita at Av. Lopez Mateo #3800 (between Prolongacion Andromeda and Av. Conchitas) and if you are staying at Intercontinental it would be about 4 min drive right from the hotel on Lopez Mateos (towards San Augustin or Santa Cruz de las Flores).
Get through the entrance to a little courtyard with rooms all around it (typical cheap motor hotel), the lady comes to greet you, just tell her "dos horas por favor", hand her 180 peso and she will hand you a key to one of the rooms.
The rooms are OK. It's Mexico so don't expect much but rooms are clean, there is a shower, a good, firm bed and a telephone. If you want the room for the night, say "noche entera por favor" and she will give you one of the room on the 1st floor that may be a bit better. The cost is only 20 or 50 peso more so that may be a better choice.
Also, this motel seems to do a large volume of similar visits so everybody is used to it and nobody cares about your business. It is safe (at least I never had a single problem) and cheap. The "dos horas" rentals are probably 80% of this motel revenue so they know what is needed. Clean room, big bed and no questions asked. No hassle with the damn security, no chance that colleagues from work staying at the same hotel can see you, convenience and good value.
There is obviously no internet connection at Loma Bonita so you need to have a list of numbers to call prior to getting there. Now, how to find the numbers it will depend on your sense of adventure, skills in searching the web, tolerance for experimentation (you just never know what you will get) and obviously and the most important your Spanish proficiency. But even without Spanish you can just learn a few basic words and get by. C'mon, be adventurous!
The girls you will be calling just need the name of the hotel, room number and time. They will call you back on the hotel phone to confirm that you are not bs-ing them and are really at the hotel and will be there in 20-30 min (if you are lucky). Sometimes you can go through a list of 10 numbers and come up with nothing so do you homework and have lots of alternatives.
I always used my cell phone to call out and girls were calling back on the hotel line. I actually don't remember if you can use the room phone to call out. But you can find out yourself.. Not everything can be handed to you on a silver platter!
Again, I always had a car so this was very convenient and actually fun since every night was an adventure to see who will show up at the door. Sometimes the girl was more beautiful than I expected sometimes a LOT less but the thrill is in the hunt, right?
Feliz caza!
JJ Bob
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Is there such a thing as a 50 dollar hooker that is 18-30 good looking and not el gorda? In the Guad area?
I'm kinda shocked at the prices that agencies and escorts are trying to charge here in Jalisco area.
I can get a 8-10 rate young beauty in my home town in canada for much less than these girls are trying to charge.
Yes, I, m not mexican and my spanish is spanglish but you would think that they would welcome our business just the same.
While I spend the winter lakeside in Chapala it would be nice to find a place that would welcome us snowbirds and take our 50-80 dollars for a hour of fun.
Maybe its time to get some investors and bring over some Phillipina's and set up a specialty house.
I haven't posted for a while because I have been totally out of the P4P scene for a few years but I did want to share a bit of info which should be of interest to some of you:
For Lakeside hunters:
David's bar in Riberas del Pilar is still active. I haven't been there in over a year, but I ran into the best looker I knew from there "Nayeli" like two months ago and she made a point to tell me she was working there again. She is not a bad option for older gringos. Also, I saw some fine chicks sitting out front about 6 months ago, but again, I STRESS I haven't been in the place for over a year.
One of my Mexican friends informed me that there is a hottie working at the "bar" which is located half way between Ajijic and San Juan Cosala on the northside of the highway, however she apparently is there only on weekends. I have not gone to check it out, but I did see one girl sitting out front one day that definitely would have been worth a visit. Again this is all rumors, I have a girlfriend(s)
Chivis Bar, the famous strip joint in Joco (which was shit) apparently has a new owner, who remodeled. Chivis is located on the exit of Joco heading towards Guadalajara, on the south side. I spoke briefly to the son of the new owner and he said his dad put some money into the place and is bringing talent from Guadalajara. I have too many hot friends in Joco to risk my reputation at the bar, but you all should check it out.
There is a new "bar" that just opened two weeks ago in Chapala. It is leaving Chapala heading towards San Nicolas (or Mezcala or Vista del Lago) about a half mile out of Pepe Guizar on the lakeside of the road, which supposedly only opens Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. The talent is supposedly from Guadalajara. I haven't checked it out but it looks classier than the rest and someone probably should check it out before it closes.
Finally, our favorite club owner in Ajijic is remodeling a bar in front of the Chapala Haciendas hotel which is supposedly going to be Chapala's only strip club, or cabaret as they like to call it, scheduled to open in 2010. Considering he's had the legal pull to introduce other social venues, I imagine he just might pull it off.
Again, all this is local chisme, but since I know there is a lot of local readers (stop identifying me!!!) I wanted to throw the info out there.
Good luck and happy hunting,
Coahuila
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As for 50 dollar hookers, they are everywhere, read some of my old posts.
Recent worthwhile shit, I have seen girls at the hotel just north of Hidalgo on the west side of Independencia that are relatively hot and don't charge over 20 US. Every once in a while, the orange house on 5 de Mayo two blocks east of Independencia up from the McDonalds will have girls for the same price, however it is spotty. The famous 50th street about 10 or 15 blocks east just off of Obregon definitely has some lookers too. I took a friend there about three months ago and a hot chick offered 300 pesos there or at a hotel. The hotel charge was extra. They aren't the cream of the crop, but well worth what they are asking. Just watch out for cops, gringos looking for SWs are a definite target I imagine!
Happy hunting,
Coahuila
I have it from a VERY good source that several of the girls that work at the Cadillac Club in Guad are from Chapala. This club is just south of the periferico (when travelling north on the Chapala - Guadalajara Hwy.) on the west side (southbound lanes). You could probably talk them into an afterhours thing at lakeside (they have to go back anyway) with the right kind of money. I know one of them and she is HOT!!! So check that out, I have also heard stories of people (Mexicans) bringing back girls from Boom Boom (just north of the periferico, same side). Boom Boom, in my opinion, usually has a 40 ugly girls to 4 hot girls ratio, but it opens early and money talks.
Good luck, and if any of these tips are useful to any of you, PM me or post back with your experiences.
Cheers,
Coahuila
Thanks for all the info,
You have restored my faith.
Both in the available mexican women and this particular section of another forum.
There are some pimps pimping over priced girls here and some trailor trash bigots, however it takes all kinds to make up the world.
Please keep the good and positive info coming.
Thanks dude.
I think I might have a new favorite restaurant in Guadalajara - El Jockey Grill House. The asparagus with goat cheese and walnuts and the oysters Rockefeller were among the best I've had. The salmon was good, and the wine, a tempranillo/malbec fusion was reasonably priced. I was not, however, impressed by the 2 kilo (that's right, 4.5 lbs.) lomo de res. Given the quality and quantity of the food, and the service and the upscale decor, the place is a bargain. The restaurant opened about 3 months ago and is located in Zapopan on Manuel Acuña between Juan Palomar Arias and Terranova.
For the past couple of years I've been enjoying the company of Galilea who worked at Jet Set. Anyone know where she is now?
Gentlemen, thanks for all the good info. I plan on using it to the fullest during my upcoming visits.
I will be in Guadalajara for a couple weeks. What is the least expensive cell phone purchase/set up that you might recommend. I will only be using it to make local calls during my initial two weeks, but I plan on returning for a 4-6 month stay within the next twelve months.
Thanks,
Chica Luv
I have been to all (that I know) Lakeside girl bars.
Can't seem to find anything under 200 lbs.
Maybe I, m there on wrong days or time?
I also went to the faded Orange wall place near the Guadalajara market that was mentioned in a few earlier posts.
A couple of sleaszy fat gals hanging outside, saw one that was fukable but all bruised up who would go for 300 pesos for 15 minutes. But passed due to my spiney tingly senses telling me to get the fuk out.
Am thinking I may have to buy a ticket to Phills or Columbia.
[quote=el mojado]hey i am heading out to gdl around the 15th, but only for about two or three weeks tops. there is a place i saw on lopez mateos right close to the intersection with lazaro cardenas that charges $500 pesos for roughly 45 minutes but i got there very late and had already been to high class where it is $550 pesos for 30 minutes. with the exchange rate as it is, high class is about $37 usd for the half hour and the other place is a better deal as far as time goes, but i don't have a clue what the facilities look like inside other than the greeting area. hc has clean facilities and i love that they have lots of hot water for the showers.
anyone been to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] recently? the girls in there always look great but the reviews have hardly been that great (good looks do not automatically equal enthusiasm)
went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] this afternoon. lots of very hot looking ladies. spent 45min. with "gillette" early twenties and petite. her perfomance was about a 5 w/ looks at 8. would not chose a young one again. price was a little high at 1200 pesos. tried to bagain but madam would not lower price.
i spent several hours prior looking for high class but could not locate it. i has a friend that has lived in gdl for 17 years and he tells me that it is a totally different part of town and nowhere near [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] as previously reported. i tried the address that someone else posted but no luck. does anyone have the correct address?
i much prefer nogales & mexicali when it comes to locating professional ladies. this town is really spread out and if you don't know the exact colony/township and address. well your chances of finding a location that has been listed on this board is. well slim!
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high class is less than 1 km east of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], on the opposite side of the street. they have lowered their price to 480 pesos, but pickings are slim, unless you like gorditas. or girls with many miles and mant tatoos. all in all, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is a better deal. try again, you will probably get a better girl. good luck.
[quote=guadalajara don]high class is less than 1 km east of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], on the opposite side of the street. they have lowered their price to 480 pesos, but pickings are slim, unless you like gorditas. or girls with many miles and mant tatoos. all in all, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is a better deal. try again, you will probably get a better girl. good luck.[/quote]gd
thanks for the reply. seek and ye shall find. yes i did find the high class club. twice! had two different girls, both on par with the girl at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. one lady was 24 and the other 31 both were attractive and their performances were much more conviencing than the one i had at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]
i also located several ladies of the night (about 20) downtown near the interestion of hildago & indepencica. they were hanging around the hotel there, both inside and on the streets in the area. they quoted 200 pesos for half hour, and that price included the room. however, oral or taking their top off was an additional 100 pesos each.
neither [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or high class allows you to 'visit' with the girls. just another reason i like nogales. nothing beats the gfe treatment that i get when in nogales. there are several very attractive ladies there that certainly know how to treat a man.
of course, maybe if i found a local strip club here in gdl then i could work into the same type of person relationship that i've been able to find in nogales.
can anyone recommend additional places near the fiesta american at fuente minerva?
[quote=guadalajara don]high class is less than 1 km east of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], on the opposite side of the street. they have lowered their price to 480 pesos, but pickings are slim, unless you like gorditas. or girls with many miles and mant tatoos. all in all, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is a better deal. try again, you will probably get a better girl. good luck.[/quote]took gdl don's advise and revisited [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], and i am glad i did. this time however, i went early and got a haircut. during my trim i asked the barber who the most popular girls were, different ages, looks, etc. the guy knew it all! after which i asked him for the top three names.
when it came time to make my selection, i made sure i shook hands and introduced myself with each girl. of course, they too gave me their names. in doing so, i was also able to get a closer look at each, make eye contact and get a better feel for what each might be able to offer.
in the end i chose the #1 recommendation that the barber made. based on my likes. wow, was he correct and wow wow wow was she fun.
we had a great time and it was almost total gfe. we talked a lot. in my broken spanish. in the end i she gave me her cell number and we agreed to make afterhours arrangements.
i also found the other club that someelse mentioned (in addition to high class). it is accross the street from the hotel posada hotel address 1280 lopez mateo, about two block up the street from lazaro cardenus (not spelled correctly) and just before you get to the blockbuster video store. i went by there at 1pm and they only had two girls working. neither were to my liking. they stated that more girls would be arriving at 2 pm. i headed off to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] to try out my new plan.
[quote=chica luv]can anyone recommend additional places near the fiesta american at fuente minerva?[/quote]try eduard's, close to the minerva on one of the streets coming off the glorieta. it's been a while since i've been there, but back when i used to frequent the esteticas it was #2 in my book, after [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
Me and my wing man stopped one evening at the little shit hole bar west of Ajijic a couple miles. It was a cold evening and the place was full of very ugly scarry trannies. There was no others there for good reason and it was like a bad nightmare as they attacked us wanting us to buy them tranny drinks.
We ended up driving into Guad, and stopped at a club just past the airport on east side call the CAVE. It had a couple of chicks, and when we asked where the chicks were the bartender called into a back room and out came about 10 and 4-5 were actually doable lookers. We made a deal paid a bar fine for 2 hours and drove back with 2 of them to the Lago. They were super into it and fun, After having our way with one of them we traded and had the other one.
They stayed for 3 hours for 2 shots each everything on menu. Paid 500 pesos to each. They were happy, we were happy.
We will return.
Unless we can find something closer.
Any info for lakeside would be mucho appreciated.
I think you will be very disappointed if you try to compare Colombia with Mexico.
Probably double or triple prices.
Unless you like fat and ugly.
Yes, you can go to Sayulita and surf and party and probably pic up freebies.
But Guad is along way from any beach and not a good pooner place.
I will be in Tepic later in the week and needs some help with where to go. I have not been able to find much other than the web site for Gamma and a web site listing a few table dance clubs. I will be happy to share after my trip.
I'm under the impression that guad don's insulting and idiotic remarks were the reason his threads disappeared?
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[QUOTE=Vandaddio]I think you will be very disappointed if you try to compare Colombia with Mexico.
Probably double or triple prices.
Unless you like fat and ugly.
Yes, you can go to Sayulita and surf and party and probably pic up freebies.
But Guad is along way from any beach and not a good pooner place.[/QUOTE]I was going to defend Mexico's sex scene, but on reflection, your estimate of "double or triple prices" isn't far off. If you're paying 35-40K COP for a half hour in a downtown casa in either Bogota or Medellin, that's about half what it costs for a 500-600 peso session in a massage parlor in Monterrey.
I don't know about the "fat and ugly" part though....I've seen some very fine Mexican women.
I don't know about the "fat and ugly" part though. I've seen some very fine Mexican women.
True enough, I take that back.
But comparing Guadalajara to Colombia is like comparing a Volkswagen to a Mercedes.
I picked up a Metro paper and called a ad for a 22yr. Old and when she arrived it was a bait and switch, not a "photo real" as stated. However she was older and heavier but was very into it and did her job well and was not a clock watcher. Stayed for 2 hours, double shot, gfe for 700 pesos.
[QUOTE=Vandaddio]I picked up a Metro paper and called a ad for a 22yr. Old and when she arrived it was a bait and switch, not a "photo real" as stated. However she was older and heavier but was very into it and did her job well and was not a clock watcher. Stayed for 2 hours, double shot, gfe for 700 pesos.[/QUOTE]
One of the advantages of doing MPs or casas de citas is that you don't experience "bait and switch". It's totally "what you see is what you get" (well, sort of --- there's always the risk that underneath the enticing lingerie are unsightly tattoos, stretch marks, bruises, etc.) Of course you don't find 700 peso 2-hour sessions in MPs either ;-)
One difference between an MP in Mexico and a casa de citas in Colombia is in how the lineup is done.
When I've been in casas in Colombia (and brothel-style places in other countries), the girls come out one-by-one and introduce themselves by name, then you select (makes it easy on the guy who has specific recommendations in hand as to which girls are the best).
In Mexican MPs, the girls just line up with no formalities at all and you make your pick on appearance alone. If you do have a recommendation from a friend, you usually call ahead to find out if the girl's available then ask for her when you first enter.
Also, there are casas in Colombia that deliver to your apartment or hotel room: it's like Dominos (only better) --- pick up the phone, place your order, and the doorbell rings in 30 minutes or less. I'm unaware of Mexican MPs doing this, though I've certainly never tried it myself.
well i am back in gdl for several months and already having fun. visited "high class" and linked up with one of the girls i met last dec. rosy.
young, thin, tight and fun. this time and last she told me that the price was 550. i said i only had 500, so she checked with the manager and yes 500 was ok (then and now). cbj, multible positions and very fun.
i also like the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] but at 1200 pescos, i get more milage out of hc.
i read about another place called eduados, but have yet to locate it.
Located another Estetica. Eduar's near the Fuente Minerva, on Golfo de Cortes. When in and got the tour. It was about 2 PM and they only had three ladies to choose from, and the price was 1200MX for one hour. I asked if they had a lesser option and they said no.
Maybe if my spanish was better I would have gotten a better price with less time, but that was not the case. I declined and left the place.
I am still looking and haven't found a better value than the High Class at 500MX for 30 minutes. They include a light back rub and plenty of sex.
I am located near the Fuente Minerva and am interested in places close by. If anyone has additional recommendations please let me know.
CL
[QUOTE=Hog Dog]One of the advantages of doing MPs or casas de citas is that you don't experience "bait and switch". It's totally "what you see is what you get" (well, sort of --- there's always the risk that underneath the enticing lingerie are unsightly tattoos, stretch marks, bruises, etc.) Of course you don't find 700 peso 2-hour sessions in MPs either ;-)
One difference between an MP in Mexico and a casa de citas in Colombia is in how the lineup is done.
When I've been in casas in Colombia (and brothel-style places in other countries), the girls come out one-by-one and introduce themselves by name, then you select (makes it easy on the guy who has specific recommendations in hand as to which girls are the best).
In Mexican MPs, the girls just line up with no formalities at all and you make your pick on appearance alone. If you do have a recommendation from a friend, you usually call ahead to find out if the girl's available then ask for her when you first enter.
Also, there are casas in Colombia that deliver to your apartment or hotel room: it's like Dominos (only better) --- pick up the phone, place your order, and the doorbell rings in 30 minutes or less. I'm unaware of Mexican MPs doing this, though I've certainly never tried it myself.[/QUOTE]
In Guadalajara the time I lived there that MP did not offered those kind of services (deliver to your home like Dominos), other MP in Mexico City and Monterrey does offer such kind of services.
Well, I am a little slow but eventually figure it out.
After a little after dinner nap, I decided I needed a little female company. So, I headed off to visit my local Estetics Masculino.
Arrived at the first one about 905PM. Closed, tried a second and then a third. Seems they all close NLT 9PM. Some kind of government regulation.
So my next plan was to head down town. At the intersection of Hildago and Independence, is where a group of street girls hang out. There are two motels near the same intersection. The girls seem to working out of two motels near the same intersection.
There were 9-11 ladies showing their wears, and I chose Paulina. 22 years, old with a nice slim body, long black wavey hair and black eyes. She led me to her favorite hotel. She was asking 200 pesos for full service.
I was required to give the hotel clerk the 200 pesos, he took his part (65 pesos for the room, toilet paper, and condom) and gave the change to the girl.. Change to the girl. 135 pesos seemed like very little money for 30 minutes of full service.
I was a little concerned. At first. Once in the room we got naked. She started with CBJ, while I had fun with her breast, bottom and black-haired snapper. Once I was hard and she wet, she began with CG, then missionary and lastly DG.
It was certainly worth the 200pesos, but nothing on par with what you would get at one of the more established places. As one would expect.
So, whenever I am in the mood for a cheap & quick session, I will probably return for another trip down town. However, when I want a little more amore then I will visit the Estetics. Only earlier.
So far I have found four estetics near Fuente Minerva and I'm still looking for more.
I would like to hear of other pooners experiences with chicas from the Metro News paper.
Lots of ads, with moderate prices.
Anyone have a gem to share.
Would love to have delivery to the Lake.
i went by high class yesterday. did the usual pass-in-review with all the chicas, and selected the new girl.
i gave her my customary 500pesos and of course she wanted more. i told her that was the amount i always paid. she took the 500 and left. i got undresses and soon she returned to tell me that the establishment wanted more $$$. i took back my 500 and started getting dressed. just as i finished dressing she came in and said that the 500 was enough.
by this time i was already dressed and heading out the door. once i arrived at the exit the mamason told me that the 500 was ok. i told her that i had been coming there three days a week and that i was getting the same old bs every time. and that i was tired on it. now, it wasn't the money. i was tired of her bs
i went straight to the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and paid almost 3x the price, but had a super time. was entertained by paolina. wow, she was great. almost like a girl friend. cbj daty dfk and all positions requested. had a great time.
chica luv, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] doesn't cost 3x more. you were paying for 30 minutes at high class and for an hour at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. sounds like you really clicked with the masajista at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]--glad you had a good time. btw, what did the women at eduars look like? at one time that might have been the #2 estetica in guadalajara next to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], at least of the ones i knew, but i haven't been by eduar in a long time. thanks
[quote=tiny 12]chica luv, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] doesn't cost 3x more. you were paying for 30 minutes at high class and for an hour at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. sounds like you really clicked with the masajista at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]--glad you had a good time. btw, what did the women at eduars look like? at one time that might have been the #2 estetica in guadalajara next to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], at least of the ones i knew, but i haven't been by eduar in a long time. thanks[/quote]tiny
too true w/re to the time. additionally, i can't really compare hc 2 [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. both are in a totally different class. kind of like comparing burger king to a outback steakhouse. just is'nt fair.
i found another place that i really like too. i is just off fuente minerva on lopez mateos monsiours (spelling is close). cost is 1000 for the hours, but the girl is what really makes the experience. really nice looking, long dark brown hair and dark eyes, built like the proverbial brick-shit-house, great manicure, perfect skin & make up. looks like a penthouse model. to include the enhanced d+ breast, and super sweet.
good rub down to include using her well endowed chest on my member. nice cbj, multible positions, light kissing and super nice daty! to include body tremors and major muscle contractions.
i have seen her twice and the second time was nicer (if that is possible) than the first. i hoping for dfk before too long.
back to your question: the three women i saw in eduar's were nice. above average. additionally, i went to oasis a few blocks east of minerva on vallarta. about 8 girls, verying in size age shape & looks. most looked drugged out so i left.
i have also been down town to the corner of hildago & independencia. there are two hotels there and another about a block away between hiddago and juarez off in the plaza. i had several girls at the two hotel on the corner. all were 200-250. they are very business like, very mechanical, and do not give bj's or take off their tops unless the money gets better.
i got 20 minutes of totally boring sex. the only girl i found that even moved or make a sound was/is jasmine.
jasmine is 24 with a naturally super firm body, shoulder length brown hair with highlights, has nice makeup and nails. she too will try to upsell and won't give a bj for extra cash. but she does move nicely and throws in a little grunting at no extra charge.
for the money and the enjoyment, i like the new place with my newest gf. nothing like multible postions and daty with a willing partner. the best is that afterward i go home alone.
Thanks Chica Love, keep up the good reporting. Hope you'll let us know the name of your new favorite place the next time you re-visit, and where it's located (e.g., northeast or southwest of the Minerva, and which side of Lopez Mateos).
i have been living here in guad for quite some years now and want to share a couple of experiences.
i definately agree that the by far best massage parlor is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], pricy but good.
the monsineurs is on lopez mateos, before getting to la minerva. if you come from lazaro cardenas, you have to take the side road, cross the railroad tracks and it will be 50 meters after on your right hand side. have tried it, and in my experience it was so-so, but a better experience than hc.
another place located close to la minerva is an estetica on justo sierra, right infront of a church. move from la minerva north to the 3rd trafficlight on lopez mateos, then turn right, pass the traffic light and it will be on your left. you can be lucky and find a gem there, but most likely there would be 4-5 girls but reasonably priced at 500 pesos a pop (2 for 800).
stay far away from stripclubs, especially the mens, candy's, goldens, etc. they are a rip off.
what i would recommend is a couple of the girls posting on the internet. especially sexoservidoras.net, there is a real gem called natalie, a true gfe. pricy yes, but unbeatable body and service. plus she has a blog she keeps updated, funny.
watch out for internet ads though, even though the ones entitled "foto real" on this specific page come audited. you will normally pay 1500 to 2000 pesos for gems, 2 hour sessions + the hotel.
if you find an add for a hottie at 800-900 pesos, then you can be sure that she is not the girl in question!
happy hunting
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[quote=borregos77]i have been living here in guad for quite some years now and want to share a couple of experiences.
i definately agree that the by far best massage parlor is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], pricy but good.
the monsineurs is on lopez mateos, before getting to la minerva. if you come from lazaro cardenas, you have to take the side road, cross the railroad tracks and it will be 50 meters after on your right hand side. have tried it, and in my experience it was so-so, but a better experience than hc.
another place located close to la minerva is an estetica on justo sierra, right infront of a church. move from la minerva north to the 3rd trafficlight on lopez mateos, then turn right, pass the traffic light and it will be on your left. you can be lucky and find a gem there, but most likely there would be 4-5 girls but reasonably priced at 500 pesos a pop (2 for 800).
stay far away from stripclubs, especially the mens, candy's, goldens, etc. they are a rip off.
what i would recommend is a couple of the girls posting on the internet. especially sexoservidoras.net, there is a real gem called natalie, a true gfe. pricy yes, but unbeatable body and service. plus she has a blog she keeps updated, funny.
watch out for internet ads though, even though the ones entitled "foto real" on this specific page come audited. you will normally pay 1500 to 2000 pesos for gems, 2 hour sessions + the hotel.
if you find an add for a hottie at 800-900 pesos, then you can be sure that she is not the girl in question!
happy hunting
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great report, and thanks for taking the time to share. i know it can be a pain at times.
i certainly agree with all that your report says. there is one particular girl at monsineurs that just does it for me. that is ana. she really seems to enjoy the experience, which adds to the overall experience for me. we spend the entire hour involved. i have seen the other girl at monsineurs and they are nothing that special. cute but not special.
like you and tiny have mentioned, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] has the best selection of ladies.
i tried one of the internet girls yesterday, and yes their photos did not match what showed up. luckly there were two ladies that showed up and i chose the other one. however, some things you just don't know until you purchase the ticket and take the ride.
i got a room at hotel california, which is near the centro magna. nice place and was only 310 pesos. the lady and her friend live in tlaquepaque, and use several different names, phone numbers and photos on the net. this one had a nice little body, sans the c-section scar.
she was all business; cbj, multible positions, light kissing, one pop. she also tried to take all the items she could fit into her purse from the hotel. toilet paper, soap, shampoo. etc. i just glad she didn't bring a larger purse.
her price was 800, for the hour, which only lasted about 35 minutes. she was also just finishishing her period, that dark residue on the condom and the sheets. also, she keep in touch with her girl friend via the hotel phone. and if that wasn't enough her two personal phones keep ringing. her daughter called twice.
sometimes this education can be expensive, but for me it is still a great adventure.
i plan on giving the internet girl you recommended a call and further my education.
I tried to send you a PM, but no luck.
I would like to set a appointment with Natalie, but could not find her on the website you mentioned.
If you have the time and her number please send me a PM.
Thanks,
CL
Took B77 information and went looking.
Headed out to the Estetica across the street from the chuch. However, on my way their found an estetic name Molina Rojo. East on Justo Sierra off Lopez Mateo on the north side of the street. Only two girls working at about 1300. One was busy and the other was a little heavier than what I like. Price was 400.
So, I headed down the street to the next block (really only about 4-6 more buildings) to the place B77 recommended. Directly across from the church. Valentino 2642 Justo Sierra within the second block east off Lopez Mateos (just like B-77 described in his previous post) telephone 36166320.
A girl named XYZ (PM for name) lead me to the room and gave me the standard briefing. She was about 23, slim, with nice mocha colored skin, and black hair/eyes. She had hot looking nails and makeup. Reminded me of the Country & Western song. "I like my women a little on the trashy side. " So, she got the bid.
Their prices seem to have gone up a little from 500 and I was quoted 600, which is still a bargin. In most places. She took my $, I took a shower and in a few minutes she return with my requested drink and my change.
She gave me a nice massage, then on the flip started in with a nice CBJ. As I started to let my hands roam, she stopped me briefly to cover the vents on the door. She also pushed a button on the wall to let the manager on duty down stairs that she was getting naked and the real party was about to start.
Of course prior to the party, and during the massage she gave me her lifes story. 3 kids 9, 6, and 3 (she will be 23 in a few days. Do the math). Very nice gal.
She was a total GFE experience (except for the condom, of course). She provided all positions requested, DFK, DATY. Was very responsive and happy to play.
Afterward, we took a shower together, during which she washed me all over. Then, once we were both dressed we went downstairs and I drank my beverage. All the while, she and the other ladies were very nice and chatty. XYZ told me that they had about 12 different ladies working there. I only saw 6, but they run different shifts.
I requested that XYZ give me her cell phone. She programed her name & number into my cell phone and then wrote her stage name onto one of their business cards also.
Several of the other ladies were very nice too, a couple were very hot looking. I would have liked to given several of them a test drive. Maybe later.
Or maybe not. Once I find one that "does it" for me, I have a hard time changing horses.
Thanks again B-77 for the great info. PS. I tried to located Natalie on the website you mentioned, but didn't have any luck. Maybe she changed sites or was on vacation.
GetSome
CL
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CL send you a PM now.
You are right about pricing at Valentinos, it was 600 during a visit last week!
Can you please share where you had your "Internet add experience", there are a ton of these portals and most are fake. The best guide is to go by pricing. It seems that the motto for many of the agencies is "caliente no te regresa" which means "if he is horny he will not return you", but if you make it clear that you will return any girl if she is not the one from the photo, you can do so with no problem. If you are at a motel, that is.
In that case, I do not pay the taxifare either, it is the only way these agencies will ever learn.
From a residence or hotel room, you probably want to avoid the potential haggling with an angry escortgirl.
And for those of you coming to visit around the Plaza del Sol area, yes there are a lot of street-walkers but they are all guys dressed up as girls. So unless that is what you are looking for, then be warned!
I took a trip to guad today and went to Molina rojo, about 6 girls working, all were about 5-7's. Quoted 450 for a hour so little brain picked a blonde with big bolt on tits and a good attitude, shower, good massage, and CBJ, DATY, all or any positions, she was energenic and did the job well.
I was curious as to Valentino's so walked the 3 houses down the street and went in and checked the line up, 4 girls working all about the same as MJ's so said thanks and bye.
Got to my car and there was a card on my windshield for Oasis estitica a few blocks away, I believe the address was 1690 hildago, looked like a nice place so thought I would pop in and check out thier line up.
WOW!
I told the papasan I was just at MJ's and just wanted to look around, he gave me a tour and it was truely upscale and very nice. I was given a drink and introduced to the line up one at a time, there were 12 beauties. All were 8-10's.
2 really got my eye, one little mollata spinner, and a tall thin model.
I was quoted 1100 for a hour. But was only there to look but dam, they were hot, I could not make my mind up so asked if I could pic 2 for a discount.
2000 for them both and off we went for the best hour I have had in years.
Will I go back, dam right I will, can't wait for it to open on Monday.
Thanks for the PM B77 and the great report Vandaddio
I too visited Rojo yesterday, but at 1000AM just after they opened. Only two girls on duty. Picked the dark haired on name Dulce. Very pleasant and had a good but quick session. As I had to meet another non-pro lady for breakfast. Service was good and price was 450
To day I stopped by Valentinos again and hooked up with my Morena del Fuego. Again, I had a great time.
However prior to visiting Valentinos, I had called on of the ladies from the internet classified section and set up an afternoon apointment. After an hour with Little Miss Morena I was pretty shot. But, after a quick snack and short walk to the bus, I decided to give it a try.
What I really liked about her add was that she had her own apartment that she uses. She also had three different price ranges for services (I usually don't like too many price choices. But).
The first like below is to her internet add. Her name is IRIS, she is about 34 years old, short, long thick BLACK hair and medium build with slight stomach.
I chose the Premium (ie highest priced) service at 1000. This service includes 1 hour of lots of non-stop fun!. To include BBBJ(s) and multible "relationships".
She started with a nice back rub using her hands and then proceeded to use her entire naked body as a massage tool, to include slight bitting and kissing. WOW she really knows what she is doing.
On the flip she started oiled me up and started the same process face to face, to include lots of kisses and DFK. She has some very unique moves!
Next, she started in with a super nice BBBJ, moved to covered mutible positions, to DATY, more BBBJ, multible positions. LOTs of moaning, kissing, bitting & scratching. She was ALL about doing the deed. I felt like I was in one of the porn movies.
As I stated earlier, I had just finished up with Little Miss Morena, and therefore had lots of staying power. This lady made more! We kissed, fucked and sucked for the entire hour! I was worn out, but had a great time.
She isn't a 19 YO spinner, but is cute and love doing the deed.
[url]http://www.mundoanuncio.com.mx/anuncio/mananeros_en_mi_cama_escort_de_anos_tu_mejor_experiencia_1183720443.html[/url]
Here are some links to the web pages that others from this board have listed throughout the months. I have seen two ladies from these pages. The one I just described and another in a previous post.
[url]http://www.sexoservidoras.net/escorts-en-guadalajara-jalisco.html[/url]
[url]http://www.mundoanuncio.com.mx/[/url]
[url]http://www.vivastreet.com.mx/jalisco[/url]
Here is a link to a provider, Natalie. B77 recommends her. I tried call, but never made contact.
[url]http://lasdudasdeunaputita.********.com/[/url]
More fun soon.
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[QUOTE=Borregos77]CL send you a PM now.[/quote]Can you please share where you had your "Internet ad experience", there are a ton of these portals and most are fake. The best guide is to go by pricing. It seems that the motto for many of the agencies is "caliente no te regresa" which means "if he is horny he will not return you", but if you make it clear that you will return any girl if she is not the one from the photo, you can do so with no problem. If you are at a motel, that is.
This add shows the photo that the girls were using.
[url]http://www.Mundoanuncio.com.mx/anuncio/dejame_consentirte_como_te_mereces_1183757933.html[/url]
I spoke with one and two showed up. I say showed up, because I waited outside of the Motel and watched their arrival. I met with both, and neither looked like the girl in the add. I picked the better looking one. Later I found out they the both post numerious adds using several different names, photos, and phone numbers each. They live in Tonola, or at least that is what the claimed and they arrived in a little dented grey four door. It is almost impossible to determine which is which. That is one reason once I find one with service I like I trend to stay with that one(s).
Hi everyone. I am going to Guadalajara in mid-April, and would like some information on esteticas. I did read the postings in this forum, but if anyone has anything to add, I would really appreciate it. Perhaps, rate the esteticas and mention the prices.
Muchas gracias!
And most of these gals are around 150p,but most not doable even me a Bby me a 66 year old Monger!Not very fussy!But one gal was way different,Veronica looked like a secretary,office girl,somebodys wife,a petit,stylish 36,slight belly not bad I was not even sure she was working but in that area by hotel but thought I would try.She said she wanted 250 p por una hora plus 100p for room,BBJ,total sin ropa.We got into room took a shower together and she gave me a BBJ in the shower!!Great job this girl an expert!Very good in bed,she came and dont think she faked!Claims her esposo is in a silla de ruedas!A wheelchair!Also asked for NO money upfront!I gave her 300p,100p for room!says she does not work real often,maybe true who knows.Have her cell in Tonala,said not to share,sorry boys,she is roughly 5 foot 7 inches tall,wearing a gray pantsuit ,meduim length dark hair small tits but cannot have everything very kissy huggy romantic even as I walked her to the Metro afterwards!Recommended!If you can find her hope I do and you too!
[quote=libra 7474]hi everyone. i am going to guadalajara in mid-april, and would like some information on esteticas. i did read the postings in this forum, but if anyone has anything to add, i would really appreciate it. perhaps, rate the esteticas and mention the prices.
muchas gracias![/quote]i've been a prowler on this forum for months. since i made special use of previous threads on my first trip to guadalajara covering all the bases i want to give something back. if i could do it all over again, here's what i'd do
estetica masculina cristopher's. this wasn't mentioned anywhere else. found this place along hidalgo while looking for oasis (an estetica which i hold in disfavor). not sure of the intersecting street (i think gallardo), but look around 1800 hidalgo. the place was clean, nice view of trees out front, very tranquil. the girls? unbelievable. (and this after visiting the high profile esteticas). jeannette (or jeaninne), 5'10", young, trim but full bodied, morena but pale, beautiful eyes and face. i couldn't believe my luck. she was exactly the type of beautiful morena-complexioned jalisquena girl you get a passing glimpse of walking along the fashionable street of vallarta, long hair, wide-spaced eyes and round pale face. and it was a two for one deal, it seemed the older and very good looking blanca hostess (but not the likes of jeanette) wanted some of my action, for 1000 pesos, the both of them, so it was cheap besides. i wanted all my devotions for jeanette but didn't want to disappoint the hostess, so i said yes. best time in any estetica anywhere, starting with cbj (the hostess was avid) while jeanette concentrated on licking my chest letting me finger her and play/suck her tits (on a side note jeanette had a superclean ass and tight pussy) then fs with jeanette second so i could unload in her (from behind of course, not wanting to take my eyes off her ass) and jacuzzi afterward. i left delirious.
went back a few days later and found myself with a peruvian woman (in her 30's) model face, body a little flabby, not jeanette but still better than the rest. but the hostess is a real horny type, and deserves more attention next time.
if i must continue (and i guess i must) i would recommend [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and then valentino's. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is everything mentioned by threads below. two girls of the eleven or so lined up were worth the 1200 pesos. can't remember names but one was from sonora the other from sinaloa, and both were not morena types, but blancas, with big thighs, beautiful round faces, just like i like them. the sinaloan girl has a beautiful smile. the sonoran has fake tits, slighlty cold personality, but warmed up towards the end so much so that, post-orgasm, she actually wanted me to give her a massage! located on avenida lazaro cardenas before the turn onto lopez mateos. directly next door to there is a good michelada bar. i spent an hour talking to the guy working there, he was nice and knew the business i had come for.
valentino's is cheap, 700 pesos fs. even still not worth it unless fanny is there. fanny is a good girl. she's a tall, pretty-faced morena, slightly skinny for my tastes and though her body is not fabulous she is sweet and nice, seems even shy. kept going on about how handsome i was and that it was a shame i had only 3 days to spend in guad. she gave me permission for things normally not given. valentino's is located on justo sierra just two blocks east of lopez mateos. fanny also recommended a very good nearby restaurant, la chata. i almost thought she wanted me to invite her there.
don't bother with barbas azul, oasis, and definitely not molino rojo. girls were cold.
[QUOTE=Beburt]I've been a prowler on this forum for months. Since I made special use of previous threads on my first trip to Guadalajara covering all the bases I want to give something back. If I could do it all over again, here's what I'd do QUOTE]
Thank you kindly, Bebut. Your help is greatly appreciated
one mans experience is sometimes different than others.
i appreciate everyones posts.
i did post a positive about oasis as i had a wonderful time there but since have had a few restrictive expensive times and won't go back.
i too have found valintinos and christophers to be the best for stock and price.
i have been seeing alexa at valintinos, she is a spinner. braces on teeth, about 85lb. small tits and super super tight pussy.
she gave a awesome massage for 1/2 hour and i first wondered if she wasting time. but when we got into it she was totally mine for anything.
she is very submissive and just do what you want. i had to ask to see her papers as i thought she was **** and madam guarantee she is 22.
christophers is same company and rotates girls but seems to be better there.
had christina and she was super energy and rode a cock like a cowboy riding a bronco.
i think we are just brushing the surface with these estheticas and am in search of some others.
lets hear some other experiences.
happy pooning
Tried David´s bar on the carretera a mile or so west of Chapala today. Four chicas - three fatties and one ugly. I chatted with two of them to test the water - they all want 500 pesos plus there is a 200p bar charge and of course, motel charge. No thanks!
And CRU2 a little further west on the other side of the road is closed and has been for some time judging by the weeds and garbage decorating the front. So lakeside is still pretty barren for mongering. I´m off to Guad tomorrow to check out some esteticas!
[QUOTE=Amo Maduras]Tried David´s bar on the carretera a mile or so west of Chapala today. Four chicas - three fatties and one ugly. I chatted with two of them to test the water - they all want 500 pesos plus there is a 200p bar charge and of course, motel charge. No thanks!
And CRU2 a little further west on the other side of the road is closed and has been for some time judging by the weeds and garbage decorating the front. So lakeside is still pretty barren for mongering. I´m off to Guad tomorrow to check out some esteticas![/QUOTE]I think someone could make a great Lakeside business if they opened a reasonably priced , massage / pussy / place , with good looking girls.
I have just visited Valentino's in Guadalaraja, it is my first time here and I am in town for 6 days so I thought I'd start off with a board favorite. Worst time I've had in at least a year.
Walked in a 3pm, asked for Alexa, she was not working. A line-up of 7 chica's came to the room, only 1 spinner Face 10 Body 10 by my spinner-lover mentality 5'5 maybe 100 lbs amazing tight firm ass small/firm 32A tits. Cute Yellow and green shorts and top set. I think her name was Tamala or Tamara. She spoke only Spanish, I only English. The especiale they are having is $ 300 massage only, $600 full service, $ 900 2 chica full service. Like a fool, I soon find out, l I chose only the 1 chica This was the first STARFISH I encountered in GDL.
Massage was 5 of 10. But then that is not our main reason for being here, flip and some attention to the front side, avoiding the boys, the she strips in the sauna, <should have been a warning puts up the towel over the window, rings the "fun in progress" bell, then comes over and starts to put on the cover, she says in halting english. No cover, no sexy.
OK I've lived through worse She crawls up on the table, LFK for maybe 30 seconds, and points to her pussy, I move down to dine at the Y, she says odio, which I know means I hate, what the F <baby you are in the wrong business so I move to a 69 position and she says No No, demasiado grande
I'm too big for her mouth, one again <<baby you are in the wrong business then she open her legs and says misionero, misionero. I try to communicate for doggy or rodeo, but its missionero only. So 6 minutes of unfullfilling, no wonder I left the ex, sex, and I shot. She says uno secondo, steps back into the sauna, redresses, the comes over to clean me up, points to the shower, no chica to share with here, In and out in 50 minutes. Maybe I should have taken my 2nd choice Iris. So my advice is
DO NOT. DO NOT, patronize Valentino, safe your hard earned paseo for another Estetica Masculina.
[QUOTE=Robin Redd]I have just visited Valentino's in Guadalaraja, it is my first time here and I am in town for 6 days so I thought I'd start off with a board favorite. Worst time I've had in at least a year.[/QUOTE]It has been a long time since I was at Eduards and no posts here for years about it either. Is it still there? Current quality & price?
Golfo de Cortes #2876-B, very near the Minerva glorieta.
[QUOTE=Juan Carter]It has been a long time since I was at Eduards and no posts here for years about it either. Is it still there? Current quality & price?
Golfo de Cortes #2876-B, very near the Minerva glorieta.[/QUOTE]Eduar's is still open. I posted about it in Jan. I also visited them several times since. Met a REALLY hot, tall & thin gal there. I got her phone number and we met several times outside the club. She is VERY GFE and never talked about the money.
Send me a PM if you'd like info. Also have the name & number of another independent lady that works near the Centro Mall. She is OFF the chart with her service. Also VERY GFE and very into it.
CL
Estetica Masculina Valentino
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I have just visited Valentino's in Guadalaraja, it is my first time here and I am in town for 6 days so I thought I'd start off with a board favorite. Worst time I've had in at least a year.
Red robin or whatever your name is , why badmouth the entire place if you had a bad experience with one girl?
that is uncool and unfair. there are many of us who have had fabulous experiences with girls at valentino's.
I feel sorry you had a bad one but does not mean all are bad.
While in GDL I went to at least 7 or 8 esteticas, using a local newspaper Metro as a guide, mainly to observe and see what quality of women are in these places. Mediterraneo and several that are right in downtown area. Women at these places gave out a cold, "pay, mount me and leave" viB. Barba Azul, on Vallarta, had pretty and friendly girls, but the price was 1200 pesos/hour, so I passed
However, I did choose the services of two esteticas. Estetica Alcala on Revolucion not far from downtown and Estetica Luigi's which is essentially on the corner of Chapultepec and Vallarta, not far from Casa Bariachi. At both places the price was 380 pesos for half hour. At Alcala the girls were cold and business-like, but I still chose Alma. A blonde white mexican with green eyes and freckles. Who seemed more friendly and shy than the rest. No regrets. Very good service, she was passionate, responsive, complacent and was very much into deep kissing. At Luigi's, where all the women were friendly and smiling, I chose a shapely morena with braces, never got her name. The service was very good, too. Playful, tender, she let me DATY for good 10 minutes, was into 69 and overall was "muy buena onda" as mexicans say.
Perhaps, I got lucky with my choices, but neither of the girls were clockwatchers, nor were they cold and distant like many sexoservidoras generally are. Provided there are no consequences from my visits I. E. Deseases, etc., I am happy with my estetica experience.
I also have a local 22 year girlfriend in GDL now whom I met 2 days before my return to USA. Very pretty, playful and extremely pleasing in bed. That renders my future trips to esteticas obsolete.
During evenings I went to a variety of stripclubs.Candy's, Kristal, Chica's Bar, El Galeon etc. Chica's could be something to consider. 2 hours with a girl will cost you 100 dollars, but the girls are average. Candy's girls, albeit very beautiful, charge 2600 pesos for half hour, and Kristal girls, equally as beautiful, charge the same but for 1 to 2 hours time slot.
Anyone have info re- Sundays in Guad?
Libra, Where is Kristal? Thanks
[QUOTE=Libra 7474] Chica's could be something to consider. 2 hours with a girl will cost you 100 dollars, but the girls are average. [/QUOTE]
Great and specific post! Thank you. But I just did a thread search and Google search for Chica's Bar and variations but came up blank...where is it?
[QUOTE=Juan Carter]Great and specific post! Thank you. But I just did a thread search and Google search for Chica's Bar and variations but came up blank...where is it?[/QUOTE]
Chica's Bar is very close to the new bus station in GDL, not certain what street it's on, but seemed to be right off the freeway. I had no idea it even existed until a taxi driver suggested it...
Another note - stay away from El Galeon - I was actually threatened several times by the waiter and the doorman to come up with the tips or else they can't vouch for my safety. Needless to say I was outta there very quickly, dodging some shady characters along the way.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Libra, Where is Kristal? Thanks[/QUOTE]
It is right next to the Teatro Diana in downtown Guadalajara, on the 16h September street - within 10 minutes of walking from the main plazas of GDL
Hello,
I have always favored High Class but from recent reading I may be missing out on other good MP's. Does anyone have a top ten list with avg. costs and quality of girls.
Thanks,
An alternative in Guad, while it has proven disappointing to many, will be escortservice. The website [url]www.seductoras.com.mx[/url] has a good amount of independent adds. The ones that are audited says "foto real", meaning the pic is actually theirs.
Here is one of my own personal favorites, Natalia C, whom I can highly recommend.
Pricing for a gem like her is normally around 1500 for an hour, 2200 for 2 hours.
There are many other sites too, such as adoos.com.mx and vivastreet, however, I caution anyone visiting those sites. If it looks to good to be true, e.g. a supermodel for 800 pesos per hour, then it probably is.
You can install yourself in one of the citys many love-motels, rooms run from 250 pesos to 400 pesos at the classier ones. All are clean and safe. Can recommend Riazor and Primavera on Vallarta close to Periferico and the Azul Safiro on Periferico.
How I miss the scene in Guadalajara. Been almost 2 years since I was there.
In my opinion el medeterrano on ninos heroes gave me some good memories. Alejandra and Cynthia especially. Downtown is a bit scanky. I'd watch them girls for diseases. You pay cheap you get cheap. So does everyone else!
For entertainment and service which goes the extra mile try a table dance. Titanic while small, isn't expensive and gives you a bit more of a personal service. Girls aren't bad too.
[QUOTE=Brito]How I miss the scene in Guadalajara. Been almost 2 years since I was there.
In my opinion el medeterrano on ninos heroes gave me some good memories. Alejandra and Cynthia especially. Downtown is a bit scanky. I'd watch them girls for diseases. You pay cheap you get cheap. So does everyone else!
For entertainment and service which goes the extra mile try a table dance. Titanic while small, isn't expensive and gives you a bit more of a personal service. Girls aren't bad too.[/QUOTE]It's right on Mediterraneo, and is on avenida (avenue ) Niños Heroes in Guadalajara Municipio.
Does anyone know if spinner Alexa is still at Valentino's?
I'm out of town but am coming back end of month and hope she is still there.
Wow, why is it so dead in here?
Any status reports. Thinking of making a trip
It seems like no fucking going on in Guadalajara this summer?
But I do not believe it.
The Guad girls are the horniest on the planet. And love to fuk. Just no reports.
Seriously, do you think what you said is actually truth in a real religious fanatic, double moral, conservative town GOP style like GDL???
first i stopped by [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] but wasn't too interested in dropping 1200 for mediocre looking girls. i went to christopher's. i chose the same girl as last time (actually forty plus year old woman), vikki, since i was unimpressed with the younger girls. i'll be here tomorrow, saturday, and see what's cooking at the other esteticas, but the scene for me does seem a bit deflated.
i'll report later.
Anyone been there lately?
[QUOTE=Vandaddio]The Guad girls are the horniest on the planet. And love to fuk. Just no reports.[/QUOTE]That's good to hear since I'll be in Guad in a few weeks :)
If I hook up I will post a report. Hopefully some members can give me some info in exchange to make that happen.
1. Where is the best place to go for street action? This is mostly for window shopping, checking out what's available, but I might be tempted if there's a lot of variety at a decent price.
2. Are there any strip clubs? Where? Do they have "working girls"?
3. Are there any dance clubs where I can try picking up semi-pro or non-pro's?
4. Last are the esteticas. From what I read they are the best choice for a guaranteed score with high-end ladies. Verdad? Si o No?
Gracias in advance
I'm cuming back, so look out Guad and you lovely esthetica gals.
Not sure if dealing with street ho's is a good thing to do. My experiences have been terrible, if you can afford it stick to the quality girls.
500-1000 pesos for a safe fun gal is alright in my book.
I, m really hoping my little spinner for 500 pesos is still around, braces on teeth and tight little pussy.
So fellow pooners, lets get this Guad thread going again. Anythin new will be a greatfully appricatiated. So post away even if in spanglish.
Thanks bro pooners
[QUOTE=Vandaddio]look out Guad and you lovely esthetica gals.[/QUOTE]So... estheticas are the best place to spend time with the girls? It seems weird to me, hooking up with escorts at a haircuts place. Massage place, sure. Hot tubs, even better. But ... haircuts?
Okay, I'll take it on faith.
[QUOTE=Vandaddio]My experiences have been terrible[/QUOTE]Got it. In the end, the experience itself is the most important measure.
[QUOTE=Vandaddio]my little spinner for 500 pesos is still around, braces on teeth and tight little pussy.[/QUOTE]That sounds like more than 500 pesos worth to me! :D
[QUOTE=Vandaddio]lets get this Guad thread going again.[/QUOTE]Amend! Amen!
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Hi guys, look I am not being funny here, but are you all serious about the Esticas, I pass them here in Leon everyday, and I do not see anything special about them, I have some info on Leon, if anyone wants to know. I am going to GDL for Xmass, So I am so curious.
Thanks
Sting
Read the forum...more than just a few pages. The Estetica Masculino is what you are looking for in GDL, very different for the types of Esticas you are referring to. Not all cities have them, at least not by the same name. They are all over the place in Guadalajara. Yes you can get a haircut at most, but that isn't what they are know for.
Again, READ the forum, at least twelve months back. Get a good city map and have fun
Chica Luv
[QUOTE=Sting58]Hi guys, look I am not being funny here, but are you all serious about the Esticas, I pass them here in Leon everyday, and I do not see anything special about them, I have some info on Leon, if anyone wants to know. I am going to GDL for Xmass, So I am so curious.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hi Gents,
I am currently located in Puerto Vallarta with my wife. We are planning a road trip up to Guadalajara, Guanajuato and San Miguel D'Allende in mid December.
We will be traveling with three other couples. We are a mature bunch of folks (running in age from 58-61), The ladies like to shop and we gents are a bunch of old dogs at heart.
The boy's days are made happy if we can slip away from the girls for awhile and find ourselves in a bar or club where some fine young company is available. Or a mx type of shop where fun can be had.
I am going to spend some time researching the reports here to pick up intel but it would be gratefully appreciated if anyone had some suggestions to drop our way.
Great stuff, enjoy the board a lot
Mopar Man
Most esthetica's are just a house with some pretty girls, they are not bars.
The bar and girls places, will charge mucho mas more $$$$
How much are you gents wanting to spend?
I would suggest, go to a bar and then go to Valentino's or Oasis.
Easier on the wallet. Oasis is cleaner and more upscale with some nice gals last time I was there. Get it before San Miguel de allende, because Sm is a nice visual place full of old wrinkled American broads. Not much action.
Guad is a cool place if you go to the right places.
Thanks Vandaddio,
We will be staying downtown at the St. Francis. Will the esthetica's be easy to identify? Do they actually have the appearance / storefront of a 'barber shop'? Or are they just houses literally?
I have gone through the previous posts and will sit down with a map and locate some.
Thanks again,
MM
[QUOTE=Vandaddio]Most esthetica's are just a house with some pretty girls, they are not bars.
The bar and girls places, will charge mucho mas more $$$$
How much are you gents wanting to spend?
I would suggest, go to a bar and then go to Valentino's or Oasis.
Easier on the wallet. Oasis is cleaner and more upscale with some nice gals last time I was there. Get it before San Miguel de allende, because Sm is a nice visual place full of old wrinkled American broads. Not much action.
Guad is a cool place if you go to the right places.[/QUOTE]
mopar, you're within walking distance of street hookers, hotels with cheap hookers, and lipstick nightclub. i'm not aware of any esteticas masculinas though. it's a fairly short cab ride to a number of them. my favorite is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. just search the thread, then the yellow pages if you want an address / phone number: [url]http://www.paginasamarillas.com/esteticas/guadalajara/english_1_3.aspx?npa=mexico[/url]. warning: this url will give you listings for both beauty salons and wh*rehouses, so use some discretion. answering your question, yes, you can get a haircut and a blowjob at the same establishment. they look like barber shops/spas, and unless you've read something here or you see "masculina" posted on the storefront, you'll have no idea whether more intimate services are available.
Found this treasure of a working girl house.
It is located on Av. Ninos Heros 1/2 block up from 16thSept.
Across from the Mission Carlton Hotel. Between a couple car rental places.
Go in and there is a room full of beautys. Usually around 15-20, ranging from 6-9.
Something for everybody, if you cannot find a Girl you wnat to fuk there, than something is wrong with you.
You get taken to a Private area where the girls come one at a time for your inspection and introduce themselves. Take your pick and upstairs to a nice clean massage room with shower and clean towels.
The girl asks for the money. 540 pesos then goes out comes back with a cold drink for you.
The girl I picked was very into it with everything except greek on the menu. None of the this is extra bullshit.
I was massaged, fukked, sucked, and ate her tasty tight little pussy for 1 hour.
Gave her a 100 pesos tip and with weak knees staggered back to my car. Good parking on the corner at the giant Walmart. This is the Walmart of working girl houses in Guadalajara. Enjoy!
What is the best time for the selection, are they open from 11 am to midnight?
Good details. Pay up first. Interesting.
[QUOTE=Vandaddio; 1102042]Found this treasure of a working girl house.
It is located on Av. Ninos Heros 1/2 block up from 16thSept.
Across from the Mission Carlton Hotel. Between a couple car rental places.
Go in and there is a room full of beautys. Usually around 15-20, ranging from 6-9.
Something for everybody, if you cannot find a Girl you wnat to fuk there, than something is wrong with you.
You get taken to a Private area where the girls come one at a time for your inspection and introduce themselves. Take your pick and upstairs to a nice clean massage room with shower and clean towels.
The girl asks for the money. 540 pesos then goes out comes back with a cold drink for you.
The girl I picked was very into it with everything except greek on the menu. None of the this is extra bullshit.
I was massaged, fukked, sucked, and ate her tasty tight little pussy for 1 hour.
Gave her a 100 pesos tip and with weak knees staggered back to my car. Good parking on the corner at the giant Walmart. This is the Walmart of working girl houses in Guadalajara. Enjoy! [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sound7; 1104008]What is the best time for the selection, are they open from 11 am to midnight?
Good details. Pay up first. Interesting. [/QUOTE]I'm not sure what time they open but they have good variety around happy hour, and I believe they close at 9pm. I have always gone between 2-6, around 15-20 girls then.
[quote=vandaddio;1104428]i'm not sure what time they open but they have good variety around happy hour, and i believe they close at 9pm. i have always gone between 2-6, around 15-20 girls then.[/quote]9-9 are the hours i've seen posted at the aestheticas masculinos. who knows what's in the house at nine if your plan is to make first call. around town prices range from 500-1200 for a 'servicio'. (and 1000 for 2 chicas at christopher's). have noticed little to no difference in quality: mostly overweight and single moms. not exactly overflowing with talent in these places. in some of them, there is quantity though. hope to have a look at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] before i leave town, as that's where reports say the quality is to be found.
I love tapatias. I'll be in el DF for the next few months but plan to head to Guadalajara whenever possible for my tapatia fix. Should anybody know of any essential happenings or can't miss jalisco pussy please advise.
Went again and there were about 15 girls working. That was about 4:00 in afternoon.
Went to see my little spinner but she was busy,
I picked another spinner, about 5' tall and beautiful natural tits, not skinny or fat, just perfect.
She was good at her craft and I was satisfied with her service. Maybe a bit mechanical.
The other girls were all very nice but many have that famous mexican spare tire.
The rooms all have new fuck chairs in them along with the massage table and shower.
We used the chair and it is a awesome tool of assistance.
Same fee of 540 pesos, gave her 600. She was happy.
There was a tall beautiful skinny chick there, a real thoroughbreed, lonnnnng legs.
She is next on my list.
i find myself in new territory today. usually i am a frequent traveler / mongerer in china but find myself in guadalajara tonight with no plans. i would love to wander out to some of the estetica masculine. are these better to visit daytime or evening? i know that i passed [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] on my way in to the hotel last night so it is fairly close.
what about the stripclub scene? i have not found much in the forum or elsewhere that is not several years old. i am staying at the intercontinental presidente and know that then mens club and golden club are not far away.
any suggestions would be welcome. pm details are always welcome.
[quote=chuckle one; 1131522]i find myself in new territory today. usually i am a frequent traveler / mongerer in china but find myself in guadalajara tonight with no plans. i would love to wander out to some of the estetica masculine. are these better to visit daytime or evening? i know that i passed [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] on my way in to the hotel last night so it is fairly close.
what about the stripclub scene? i have not found much in the forum or elsewhere that is not several years old. i am staying at the intercontinental presidente and know that then mens club and golden club are not far away.
any suggestions would be welcome. pm details are always welcome.[/quote]most estetica's close at 9pm.
they are the best bang for buck. 400-1000 pesos,
stripclubs will strip your wallet.
i, m curious to your review and some info re- some of the higher end clubs like mens club or?
have fun, nice to see a posting here. would be great to see more input.
So fellas, this is my first post here, so be easy. First things first here, Guadalajara is a beautiful city with much to do, knowing some spanish and being able to communicate is a major advantage here. There are people who speak a little english but usually its not enough to carry a full blown conversation. Now that we have that out of the way, lets start the report. I arrived here late Tuesday evening, so I got to my place a little outside of central. Guadalajara on pedro moreno and federalismo. After getting situated I decided to venture out and check out my surrounding. I did not do ANY mongering my first night. Anyway as I was walking around I found a bar called Zona Uno, it is a chain I'm told there are about 12. This one is located on pedro moreno a couple blocks from federalismo going towards central gdl. They only serve beer, no hard liquor and you can get peanuts and stuff to eat. Anyway, its sort of a place people go after work but before they go out. I was surprised to see so many people there at 500 in the afternoon, but after feeling the crowd out I sat at the bar and started chatting with ladies there. I ended up getting in good with one of the bar tenders there and we made plans to go out on Saturday. Again she does not speak enough english to hold a decent convo, so spanish helped alot. I ended up staying at the bar until she got off around 10, then walked her to her busstop, nothing major, just showing theres potential there. After that I went to an area that I found on an earlier post about a place to go with women for gdl. Its located on calle 52 between alvaro obregon and 12 de julio. I would NOT recommend going there at night. When I got there in the cab, the cab driver told me be careful because its a dangerous area. And when he said that I told him just to take me back to my hotel, I did not feel like watching my back and worrying about someone trying to get me. So I went home and went to bed by myself.
[QUOTE=Vandaddio; 1131962]Most estetica's close at 9pm.
They are the best bang for buck. 400-1000 pesos,
Stripclubs will strip your wallet.
I, m curious to your review and some info re- some of the higher end clubs like mens club or?
Have fun, nice to see a posting here. Would be great to see more input. [/QUOTE]Are any of the estetica's open on a Sunday? I will be in GDL next weekend and was wandering what action I could get on a Sunday.
[QUOTE=King Jack;1133500]Are any of the estetica's open on a Sunday? I will be in GDL next weekend and was wandering what action I could get on a Sunday.[/QUOTE]I passed my mediterraneo yesterday on my way to the airport, it was about 11am and they were open.
woke up around 830 today because i'm used to waking up around 3am so 830 is late for me. anyway started walking around and decided i would check out some of the sites. also i wanted to walk past a few of the esteticas. here is a note about this. i am a decent looking black guy mid twenties in age; with that said i attracted alot of attention, and it was really good attention from the beautiful women of gdl. i was able to get a few phone numbers just from walking in the streets, even the viejas liked what they saw and were trying to make eye contact with me. at one point i had a mother and her daughter both eyeing me up and down. but anyway after walking around i decided to go to meditterano, its located across the street from the mission carlton hotel on ninos heroes between a bunch of car rental places. it does have parking behind the facility and also an entrance / exit back there. i walked in there were about 10-12 ladies there. one of them grabbed my hand and took me to the room and started explaining everything to me. 540 pesos for 30 minutes. cool, no problem, but i want to see all the ladies before i pull out any cash. so all the girls parade in and introduce themselves. there was no kiss, no hug, not even a handshake. some of them i felt were actually kinda cold and you could tell who didn't want to be there. so i got one who did something simple. she asked me how i was doing when she introduced herself and made eye contact, i decided to remember her name and check out the other women. there were maybe 2 more that interested me but i chose the one who asked me how i was doing. to me chemistry is very important because it helps control how a session will go. her name is andrea, i think she said she's 23 years old cute in the face very curvy, she's not fat but not skinny either. she has nice tits nothing large, and a wonderfully plump round soft ass, like i like them. so we go to the room, talk a little, i take a shower and she comes back. we go over whats included, she does not kiss, i declined the bbbj for a cbj, i'm not a fan of cbj but i rather do it like that my first time with a lady. so we sat there and talked touching each other, rubbing one another and such. there was no massage, we both new what we were there for, so after i begun kissing her titties she began moaning and grinding her body against mine. so i started to play with her pussy a little and it was tight and wet, she didn't like me to put my fingers inside, so i rubbed it, and started playing with her clit. she obviously was getting into it, and that just makes me get into it more. so after a while of that she puts the condom on my dick and gives a very good bj, nice and slow with a good rhythm and hands on my dick. so then i lay her on her side and started fucking her like that. she gives me the sexiest moans, and says que rico, that didn't do anything but turn me on. so i started doggy style and like i said i love how fat her ass is, and i was grabbing it and holding on to it, and she like that. then we went to missionary and i finished. i noticed the music had stopped and she told me that is what they use to monitor time and let the girl know the time is up. but there was no pressure to hurry, we were both caught in the moment. it wasnt a gfe, but it was pretty good. anyway we showered together and played with each other a little more, til she left and came back with my change. i tipped her 30 pesos extra and she was happy with that. she gave me her phone number and told me to call her later because she wanted to see me again, outside of her job. so that was my experience at mediterraneo. i would def recommend it, theres something for everybody there, and they are resonable priced. so anyway i left there, ate, and then took a nap. i went back to zona uno that night and met some girls who used to live in the usa. i was really there to see the bartender girl i had met the night before, but she was very busy, and later some guys i met from the bay area came in, and we ordered a bucket of modelo negras. cost 170 pesos, for a bucket of about 10 beers. but anyway, while we were chatting i noticed these girls who were getting ready to kiss, and thier friends were taking a picture of the act. sooooooo, i had to go say hello, lol. turns out they are fucking cousins. gross, but i don't mind they arent my cousins. but anyway i offered them a bucket of beer if they kissed for me and let me take a picture. the third girl who was with them volunteered to do it, but she wasnt as attractive as the other two, and i later found out she was only 17, be careful! i don't play that **** shyt. so i excused myself for a second because i had to make a call to andrea, the girl from mediterraneo, turns out i called her too late and she was supposedly already home in the bed. she told me to call her tomorrow around 9, i said cool, we can go grab some food or drinks or something. i definately asked her if i had to pay outside of her job, and she told me no! great news, lol. so i come back into zona uno and my bartender friend is giving me the evil eye, i assume its because i'm talking with a group of girls. but here's the kicker, when i get back to the group, it turns out one of the girls wants to kiss me! so i'm like shyt, my bartender friend is already pissed. what am i going to do. i excuse myself again, and talk it over with my friend, i decided i was going to see what my bartender friend thought. told her the deal, and she said she doesn't mind, and for me to live in the moment. that was all i needed, so i go back in, start talking and the other girl wants to kiss me too (the **** one, luckily my friend had already told me she was ****, so i politelty declined) then proceeded to kiss her friend. lol. we werte kissing until they had to leave, it was only about 9pm! so got her number, but i dunno if i'll call. stayed drinking with my friends from the bay, until my bartender friend was ready to get off, walked her to the busstop and surprisingly she started kissing me too! que suerte, no? she couldn't stay with me because her parents were expecting her home. remember kids here sometimes stay with thier parents until they are married. so went back to the bar, and my friends and i left and went to some bar, sorry the name escapes me as of this moment (its called maxine's or maxim or something). anyway we were looking for some older women and not deal with the younger girls anymore, because my friends had went to this bar a week earlier and got women out of there. my one friend told me he fucked his girl. without a rubber. goodluck with that one. well they took me to a very mexican bar, by that i mean, guys walking around with the cowboy hats, and they play cumbia music. there was no one in there, we got the excuse bc it was ash wed. good enough, there were two lovely ladies alone looking bored, so i went to chat them up. one was 37 the other was 25. the 37 year old was less attractive and a little heavy, but she was more outgoing then her beautiful friend. i think she was interested in me, but the owner came to ask her to dance, so that left me and the beauty alone. chattedl her up, and we begun to enjoy ourselves. we danced and i brought one of my friends over to be with the friend of the girl i was with. we danced all night, slowly and quickly, but when it was time to go, her friend left with the owner of the club and not my friend. the beauty i was with had to return home, since she was 25 and unmarried. her parents were expecting her home. so we pile into a taxi me and my friends, and my friend tells me of a women who stays in the hotel room next door to thier's who was asking 1000 pesos for an hour. i decline, but when we get to the hotel to drop them off, she's in the lobby with a guy. its a little asian girl with a great body, but alas she's going upstairs with a paying customer, so i return to my room, and go to sleep, i already had a fix today.
Surprisingly I wake up at 830 again, I didn't get in until 4am last night, so I didn't sleep any. I go grab some breakfast and a coffee, walk around in central and take some pictures. Then I went on the internet to see if I could find what the locals are saying about the esteticas masculinas here. I find a blog dedicated to discussing the esteticas, I come across a price that says 350 pesos for completo. I have to check it out. So I write down the address hop in a cab and go to the location. First off about this place, it is definately NOT a place tourist go. I can tell when a neighborhood is unsafe, this one wasnt horrible, but I got that vibe that bad shyt happens over there. So I have the cabbie pull up to the address and tell him to wait for me, its about 2pm. I go inside and a little fat mexican lady takes my hand and leads me to a room. The place is not beautiful by any means, it is what some would consider seedy, so I started having second thoughts. But thought what the hell, I'm only paying 350 pesos. So I ask the little fat one if I can see all the ladies available. They come in 1 by 1 and introduce themselves. I wasnt to interested in any of them, they were all overweight and not too appealing and only 3 were available at that moment. However the first one who entered the room was a tall girl not super skinny but definately not fat like her co workers, LOL. So she won by default. She was actually kinda cute maybe. 6.5-7. So she leads me to her room, and explains the prices. Its 350 for sexo completo and 500 for sexo completo and a massage. Fuck the massage, I just want the sex. So I ask her what she's into and she's going to give me a CBJ and sex in any position I want. Didn't ask if I could put it in her ass, wasnt really interested. So I want to take a shower, and the bathroom, is uninspiring to say it nicely. Theres one shared bathroom for two rooms, I do not like that. Not private at all, but again only 350 pesos, you get what you pay for. So I decline a full blown shower and opt to wash up I brought my own soap, something I recommend you do as well. Then I return to the room and wait for Ivon, thats my lady. I noticed that the girls who were not working could see into the room through a window that had floor to ceiling blinds but they could see in were the blinds seperated from the window. I didn't care I got naked anyway, LOL. So Ivon returns and pushes the chair up against the blinds so the ladies who were not working could not see. She takes her top off for starters and lays next to me. She begins kissing my chest my stomach and my neck, she was pretty good at that actually, then when my dick is hard, she slips on the condom and gives me a GREAT CBJ. She used her hands and new exactly how hard to suck and where to suck, while she's doing this I play with her titties and start fingering her pussy. She had a nice tight and wet pussy, only thing is it was not shaved. After the BJ, she jumps on top of me and starts riding my dick, she did an OK job, but I like to be in control. So I started doing it to her doggy and thats when things got interesting, she started to enjoy herself, the fake moans from when she was sucking my dick turned genuine. While I was behind her, she would pull on my balls a little. Nice touch I liked that. So next I put her in mis and thats when things got even more interesting, she started hugging my body and pulling me closer to her, and at that point I knew she was actually enjoying it, and I knew this session would lead to other encounters. So we did that for a while until she orgasmed, so I pulled her to the edge of the 'bed' and stood up while she layed down, I continued fucking her like that, until one of the non working girls yelled time was up to Ivon, Ivon said ok, but we proceeded to continue fucking. I came, and we were through. Talked for a minute, I don't remember how old she is, but she says she has three kids. Told me she wants one more. I asked her why and she said she wanted a negrito. I had already gotten her phone number, but after that comment I don't think I'm going to use it. So she gets dressed I do another wash up, and get dressed, on my way out she gives me my change of 150 pesos because I gave her 500, I then tipped her 50 pesos. Ivon and I had a great session, much better then I expected from a hole in the wall place like that. She made me forget I was in a shitty place, LOL. I would not recommend the other girls tho because they were no good looking to me. Although when I left there were a bunch of girls waiting for clients, so it seems they were all busy, or they had just gotten in. Since it was about 315 I figured they were just busy. I would recommend Ivon, she is not outstandingly beautiful, but she was pretty and had titties that fit in the hands of the average man, and an ass that was not as fat as andrea's but it was ok. But for 350 pesos without the tip, it was definately worth the money and maybe more. The address of the place is Miguel Galindo 1874. You can take the subway there if you want, but I only recommend this if you are confortable with guadalajara. There are posters of people with haircuts on the outside, but it is easily missed. I do not know the hours, it is called JULY's or something like that. I also failed to mention that the 350 pesos is for a 45 minute session. I'm really thinking about going back tomorrow because Ivon and I had a good time. Thats all for now, I'm going to take a nap, and recharge because tonight I'm supposed to see Andrea, but if she doesn't come through, maybe ill meet some non pros, or call up Ivon.
Last night was a good night! I didn't get up with Andrea, I didn't even call her. After my session yesterday with Ivon I went home showered and took a nice nap. When I woke up it was later in the day, I decided to get dressed and go visit my friend at her bar. She wasnt working so o well, I decided to go to a different bar that a guy a met works at. It was pretty hard to find to say the least, but when I found it things were great. Its a bar for a younger crowd, but every age was inside. I got the usual curious stares when I walked in accompanied by a few angry stares. Anyway, I see my friend and hes working at the bar so I go up and have a few drinks and we notice some girls at the end of the bar alone. So I end up spending alot of time talking with them, they are both beautiful single mothers. 27 and 33. We chill out and everything is going smoothly, we take a few shots of tequila natural and a little later the 33 year old ask me to come home with them. I almost spilled my drink on myself and had to reiterate to her that she said nosotros and not conmigo. She reiterated that she knew exactly what she said. Well that was all I needed, next thing I know I got one woman riding my face and the other riding my dick. It was a great night. Made me forget all about Andrea. The bar is called Temple, its located at lopez castillo and colonias.
So let me tell you about today. I know this is a mongering site so. I visted an estetica masculina that is a little far. The cab ride gasto 70 pesos. Anyway this place is called elegance. Its at the corner of laspislazuli and cruz del sur. Its exactly across the street from a taco stand with open air seating. It is not hard to find, it was alot of traffic when I went. There are signs outside and the doorway is has a bluelight being emitted from the inside. So I walk in, and I am greeted by a short pretty girl maybe 7 in my book, I like my girls with some ass and bigger titties but she was fine. She takes me to a room, gives me the spill and I am presented with all the ladies. I didn't feel like I made a connection with any of them so I chose the one who led me to the room in the first place. I don't remember her name, sorry fellas but she is la jefa or the owner. Nice. Anyway when she opens her mouth I notice for the first time she has braces, so I get excited, LOL. So I tell her I'm going to shower and she says she will be back in 5 minutes. So I have to tell you, this room was really alot nicer then the other places I've been too, even alot better then meditteraneo. And they had one of the chairs to fuck on too. So I shower and almost die getting into and out of the shower, and my thought as I'm falling down is please don't let me hit my head and die, I do not want my picture in the newspaper saying I died at a brothel. But I survived the shower, LOL. So I'm waiting for my girl, and when she returns we begin the session. Its starts with her rubbing me down, and she would lightly touch my has and my balls, then she was kissing my back. She had me turn over and she began massaging my front, stroking my dick every once and a while. Then she kissed my chest and slowly went down my stomach, then she put the condom on with her mouth! Gave me an extraordinary CBJ, then she got on top and rode me, she had a tight warm pussy and it got me very horny. So I started sucking her titties, grabbing them and fondeling her clit. She has implants, they werent big but she is a smaller woman and they fit her, plus they are a great shape with nice pointy nipples. So I suck her titties kiss her stomach and she knows how to ride a dick, she was very good at it. But then I put her in miss and started giving it to her. Luckily I'm not married or have a serious girl friend because she started grabbing me closely moaning in my ear and I could feel her fingernails in my back. She made me so hot, I wouldn't call it a GFE but I like when there is chemistry, it makes the session a whole lot better. So I pop and she wants me to stay, but I have to pay or they are going to take the money from her cut for the time that she stays over. Its a 30 min session that turned into 45, so I decline and we shower together and touch each other in the shower. I ask for her phone number and she won't give it. She says she doesn't go out with clients because it takes away from the time she has to spend with her daughters (she has two). She told me she is 29 years old but I think she maybe just a tad older then that. But she brings me a much appreciated soda and we leave the room together. O yea the session was 550 pesos. I tip her 30 pesos, and leave much less frustrated then when I arrived. I hop in a cab and go to see my girl that works at the bar, have a couple beers then go home to go to sleep. Another good day in mexico.
My last full day here and I decide itll be a more relaxing day. I spend time going through centro and take some more pictures. I go to the market that I believe is on hidalgo across the street from the cathedral. I don't remember what it is called but from plaza de guadalajara you walk towards where the catedral is, do not turn towards the cathedral. There is a street directly in front of you, with traffic lights at the crossing. I think it is hidalgo, but I'm not sure. Anyway cross the street and turn left, about a block down on your right is an open air market. I decided to have lunch there, it is of typical mexican culture. The market is very crowed and its difficult to move around very quickly, but there are beautiful girls walking around in there. I chose to eat at a place called Hijos de Sanchez. I ordered 3 tacos de bistek con todo. It was so good, and I was full but I wanted more, LOL. Anyway the 3 tacos and a coke cost me 38 pesos. I fucking love Mexico, LOL. So I decided to have a smoke and wait for my food to settle. I go back outside and find a spot to relax, theres a small bordering wall to the market, so I hop up and admire the beautiful women and look around to see if any are admiring me. While I smoke my cigarette I turn my head and notice a young girl looking at me and smiling, so I smile back and tell her to come over. We talk, but she is working selling clothes in the market so she's busy also. She tells me she saw me smoking a cigarette there about two days earlier and wanted to know what I said to a black woman walking by. I told her I asked the lady where she was from bc as you all can see there's not many black people walking around in gdl. So I asked the girl if she was watching me yesterday, why didn't she come up and say Hello. She tells me she had verguenza, which is like shame. So we continue talking turns out the beautiful young girl is only 17 and won't be 18 til September. Que mal. I keep talking to her though, but not of anything particularly sexual because yes we are in mexico but she's still a minor and I'm too young to do 5-10. But I got her number and let her know I'll be back when she turns 18, LOL. So I left and went to the bar to see my friend. She lets me know she can't go to the party anymore but that we can hang out there. Cool, it turns out today chivas was playing against atlas in the local futbol clasico, so there were alot of people in the bar. I get hungry and tell my friend ill come back I'm going to get something to eat and if she wants something. She does, and its tacos. So I go back to where I was earlier grab some tacos to go and talk with the 17 year old a bit, then head back to the bar with my friend. We eat and drink and I grow tired, so I called it a night. Went home and slept for the night. My last day I just walked around talked to a few friends then headed out. I had a great time in gdl and can't wait to return. On my way to the airport I did notice 3 table dance clubs, one called boom boom, one called cadillac and the other I forget, but it was right next to boom boom. In short, gdl is a fun city, a little spanish and taking initiative to talk with the locals will get you very far. You can come here to get your fix at the esteticas in the morning, get phone numbers of the girls, but you may be able to get alot of non pro action as well. Hope you guys have fun and remember to stay safe.
I have not done a stripper myself since years back. Don't like the experience of having a session timed by a gorilla outside the door, to a sideroom where music is pumping. But thats me.
I have had a couple of visitors with me to both Candy's and D-Klub recently, and they went for the FS session. It ran 2200 pesos for a QUICK pop.
Obviously beautiful stunners.
But I am more of a relx kind of guy and would much rather do an Estetica at a quarter of the price, or an Escort at half the price.
[QUOTE=Vandaddio; 1131962]Most estetica's close at 9pm.
They are the best bang for buck. 400-1000 pesos,
Stripclubs will strip your wallet.
I, m curious to your review and some info re- some of the higher end clubs like mens club or?
Have fun, nice to see a posting here. Would be great to see more input. [/QUOTE]
Decided to try the Mediterraneo after all the good reviews. I arrived at 6:15pm and place was busy. Had to wait 10 minutes for a room. The line-up had 12 girls most 6 to 7's . One a definite 9. A spinner. 5'4" maybe 100 pounds name is Gabby. 22 years. 1 child, pierced belly button, Great smile, amazing eyes,. Price 540 pesos, let her keep the change from 600. She was happy. Excellent oral skills, loved DATY, Not very tight, finished with mish and cowgirl. Open to all but "greek", not big enough for "Russian" just an "A-cup". Well worth the 600 pesos, time now is 45 minutes not 60. Only issue in her performance was that she started to moan as soon as she began kissing my chest after the flip. Overall she is a 9 on looks. 8 in performance, Great value for the pesos.
Brky06 Day Trip Reports:
Thanks for taking the time to docuiment the events. Great reporting. I just have a few clarrification.
Which hotel did you stay or recommend.
Did you consider any side trips like the Lake Chappila?
[QUOTE=Brky06;1133590]My last full day here and I decide itll be a more relaxing day. I spend time going through centro and take some more pictures. I go to the market that I believe is on hidalgo across the street from the cathedral. I don't remember what it is called but from plaza de guadalajara you walk towards where the catedral is, do not turn towards the cathedral. There is a street directly in front of you, with traffic lights at the crossing. I think it is hidalgo, but I'm not sure. Anyway cross the street and turn left, about a block down on your right is an open air market. I decided to have lunch there, it is of typical mexican culture. The market is very crowed and its difficult to move around very quickly, but there are beautiful girls walking around in there. I chose to eat at a place called Hijos de Sanchez. I ordered 3 tacos de bistek con todo. It was so good, and I was full but I wanted more, LOL. Anyway the 3 tacos and a coke cost me 38 pesos. I fucking love Mexico, LOL. So I decided to have a smoke and wait for my food to settle. I go back outside and find a spot to relax, theres a small bordering wall to the market, so I hop up and admire the beautiful women and look around to see if any are admiring me. While I smoke my cigarette I turn my head and notice a young girl looking at me and smiling, so I smile back and tell her to come over. We talk, but she is working selling clothes in the market so she's busy also. She tells me she saw me smoking a cigarette there about two days earlier and wanted to know what I said to a black woman walking by. I told her I asked the lady where she was from bc as you all can see there's not many black people walking around in gdl. So I asked the girl if she was watching me yesterday, why didn't she come up and say Hello. She tells me she had verguenza, which is like shame. So we continue talking turns out the beautiful young girl is only 17 and won't be 18 til September. Que mal. I keep talking to her though, but not of anything particularly sexual because yes we are in mexico but she's still a minor and I'm too young to do 5-10. But I got her number and let her know I'll be back when she turns 18, LOL. So I left and went to the bar to see my friend. She lets me know she can't go to the party anymore but that we can hang out there. Cool, it turns out today chivas was playing against atlas in the local futbol clasico, so there were alot of people in the bar. I get hungry and tell my friend ill come back I'm going to get something to eat and if she wants something. She does, and its tacos. So I go back to where I was earlier grab some tacos to go and talk with the 17 year old a bit, then head back to the bar with my friend. We eat and drink and I grow tired, so I called it a night. Went home and slept for the night. My last day I just walked around talked to a few friends then headed out. I had a great time in gdl and can't wait to return. On my way to the airport I did notice 3 table dance clubs, one called boom boom, one called cadillac and the other I forget, but it was right next to boom boom. In short, gdl is a fun city, a little spanish and taking initiative to talk with the locals will get you very far. You can come here to get your fix at the esteticas in the morning, get phone numbers of the girls, but you may be able to get alot of non pro action as well. Hope you guys have fun and remember to stay safe.[/QUOTE]
I am traveling in a few weeks to Guadalajara on business and wanted to know if anyone can recommend a any GREAT Escort Service Provider or which local newspaper has the independent escorts listed in. I will be staying at the Holiday Inn Iteso Hotel located AV. CAMINO AL ITESO : 8650 GUADALAJARA. 45580.
I have had some success in the past just looking up Escort Service in the yellow pages but noticed last time I was there last year very limited ads. I would appreciate any help a fellow monger could provide me.
Thanks Karl
[QUOTE=MW Travler; 1153843]I am traveling in a few weeks to Guadalajara on business and wanted to know if anyone can recommend a any GREAT Escort Service Provider or which local newspaper has the independent escorts listed in. I will be staying at the Holiday Inn Iteso Hotel located AV. CAMINO AL ITESO : 8650 GUADALAJARA. 45580.
I have had some success in the past just looking up Escort Service in the yellow pages but noticed last time I was there last year very limited ads. I would appreciate any help a fellow monger could provide me.
Thanks Karl[/QUOTE]If you're willing to pay USA prices, try [url]www.divas.com.mx.[/url] There's a Spanish-language forum on the site with reviews.
I was thinking of coming down. A one way ticket from tijuana is around $158 on aero mexico.
If I do come down can someone please recommend a hotel for $40/45 in the centro area?
I am looking for something like the zocalo area in Mexico city. I like to be close to the mercados as well.
Website or an email address would be a huge help.
Thanks,
Artisttyp
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1163486]I was thinking of coming down. A one way ticket from tijuana is around $158 on aero mexico.
If I do come down can someone please recommend a hotel for $40/45 in the centro area?
I am looking for something like the zocalo area in Mexico city. I like to be close to the mercados as well.
Website or an email address would be a huge help.
Thanks,
Artisttyp[/QUOTE]Hotel Plaza San Francisco. Don't know if it is chica friendly, but the location and price are what you are seeking.
[QUOTE=Gallo Ingles;1163585]Hotel Plaza San Francisco. Don't know if it is chica friendly, but the location and price are what you are seeking.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Any idea what area it is located in? Any website or email address. Maybe phone number?
Thanks Again.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1163944]Thanks. Any idea what area it is located in? Any website or email address. Maybe phone number?
Thanks Again. [/QUOTE]This website offers good discounts, just put in name of hotel and city as other hotels same name. Takes credit cards, converts dollars to pesos sometimes offers free nights. Helped friends book this way. Personally I stay in 150p to 200p places in Guadalajara near La Liberdad Mercado but glad to help other guys. Right now in Chapala paid 2000pesos for monthly apartment but go into GDL my month about up. Another site you can try putting in hotel name is [url]www.despargar.com.mx[/url] Another discounter these guys Mexican version of travelocity, expedia, orbitz, priceline. Com and cheaper than going straight to hotels. Here to help. Big John 1
[QUOTE=Big John 1; 1164096]This website offers good discounts, just put in name of hotel and city as other hotels same name. Takes credit cards, converts dollars to pesos sometimes offers free nights. Helped friends book this way. Personally I stay in 150p to 200p places in Guadalajara near La Liberdad Mercado but glad to help other guys. Right now in Chapala paid 2000pesos for monthly apartment but go into GDL my month about up. Another site you can try putting in hotel name is.
[url]www.despargar.com.mx[/url]
Another discounter these guys Mexican version of travelocity, expedia, orbitz, priceline. Com and cheaper than going straight to hotels. Here to help. Big John 1[/QUOTE]Hotel Costa Brava, Calazada Independencia Sur 739, right across from Wal Mart, wireless internet king beds covered parking good shape only230 pesosAs a bargain hunter, this place should be around 400pesos! Way above 230 peso hotels. Pretty centrally located too. I did not stay there as was visiting but certainly will. Big John.
[QUOTE=MW Travler; 1153843]I am traveling in a few weeks to Guadalajara on business and wanted to know if anyone can recommend a any GREAT Escort Service Provider or which local newspaper has the independent escorts listed in. I will be staying at the Holiday Inn Iteso Hotel located AV. CAMINO AL ITESO : 8650 GUADALAJARA. 45580.
I have had some success in the past just looking up Escort Service in the yellow pages but noticed last time I was there last year very limited ads. I would appreciate any help a fellow monger could provide me.
Thanks Karl[/QUOTE]It may be too late now, but try [url]www.seductoras.com.mx[/url] Under Guadalajara tab you will find several girls, if it says "foto real" it means that it is supposedly their real photo.
Some of the girls that doesn't have this legend actually post their real photo as well. You can usually find a couple of gems here.
But be careful, as with all pages, agencies flourish and what you see may NOT be what you get!
[QUOTE=Big John 1;1164765]Hotel Costa Brava, Calazada Independencia Sur 739, right across from Wal Mart, wireless internet king beds covered parking good shape only230 pesosAs a bargain hunter, this place should be around 400pesos! Way above 230 peso hotels. Pretty centrally located too. I did not stay there as was visiting but certainly will. Big John.[/QUOTE]Do you have any idea how far this hotel is from hotel plaza san francisco and is it close to the downtown mercados?
Any chance of getting ice anywhere near the hotel?
I will decide by this thurs or fri if I will come down. Dealing with a gripa at the moment but getting better.
Great info thanks.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1165602]Do you have any idea how far this hotel is from hotel plaza san francisco and is it close to the downtown mercados?
Any chance of getting ice anywhere near the hotel?
I will decide by this thurs or fri if I will come down. Dealing with a gripa at the moment but getting better.
Great info thanks. [/QUOTE]In answer to your question 8 to 10 blocks from Mercados I am 67 and walked it cab 30 p at most do not know how far from H. Plaza San Francisco. Ice available Wal Mart across street get well Artissyp
[QUOTE=Big John 1;1165780]In answer to your question 8 to 10 blocks from Mercados I am 67 and walked it cab 30 p at most do not know how far from H. Plaza San Francisco. Ice available Wal Mart across street get well Artissyp[/QUOTE]Thanks for helping me out. Good info.
Regards,
Artisttyp
Hola! I might have to scratch my trip to Nica and may end up in guadaljara instead. Aww yeah!
Anyone heard of hotel portonova? Is it close to the action?
I am just so dumb! I've been an ISG member and contributor for more than 6 years, mostly centering on Cambodia and Thailand where I live. For the last year, I have been doing air courier work out of Bangkok. In the last 3 months, I have had runs to GDL 6 times but never thought to check this forum out; as I said. Dumb.
Anyway, I am usually in GDL for less than a full day, usually arriving in the early am and heading back to LAX late afternoon; really the wrong time of day and not enough time to play.
There have been two times when I had overnight layovers, staying at the airport hotel. Honestly, I was reluctant to venture out into a city I didn't know without an experienced wingman. Money is an issue and I was reluctant to put myself in the mercy of a taxi driver.
First question: what is the average cab fare from the airport to a desirable section of GDL. Is there a less expensive way to get into the city from the airport? I looked for bus info or tour info in the airport but couldn't find any.
Second question: If I only have one night, or a full day, what is the best area to head for? I probably won't do any mongering since Thailand is so much cheaper and girls are so plentiful but looking is always fun and I am SOOO sick of the airport BK and Krispy Kream. Just the chance of some local Mexican food would make the trip worthwhile.
It does tick me off that I have been to GDL 6 times and have never left the airport. Any info you can give me on making the best of the time I have without spending a lot would be great.
BTW; my last time through two weeks ago, Immigration at the airport was a total fucking zoo! 0630am, about 1000 people and zero crowd control. Two agents were stamping the foreigners. It took me almost 4 hours to clear! I never have experienced anything like it. Lots of pushing and line cutting, several fights and many fainting lady's. Security did absolutely NOTHING to maintain order. Does this happen often?
[QUOTE=Mai Yao; 1175321]I am just so dumb! I've been an ISG member and contributor for more than 6 years, mostly centering on Cambodia and Thailand where I live. For the last year, I have been doing air courier work out of Bangkok. In the last 3 months, I have had runs to GDL 6 times but never thought to check this forum out; as I said. Dumb.
Anyway, I am usually in GDL for less than a full day, usually arriving in the early am and heading back to LAX late afternoon; really the wrong time of day and not enough time to play.
There have been two times when I had overnight layovers, staying at the airport hotel. Honestly, I was reluctant to venture out into a city I didn't know without an experienced wingman. Money is an issue and I was reluctant to put myself in the mercy of a taxi driver.
First question: what is the average cab fare from the airport to a desirable section of GDL. Is there a less expensive way to get into the city from the airport? I looked for bus info or tour info in the airport but couldn't find any.
Second question: If I only have one night, or a full day, what is the best area to head for? I probably won't do any mongering since Thailand is so much cheaper and girls are so plentiful but looking is always fun and I am SOOO sick of the airport BK and Krispy Kream. Just the chance of some local Mexican food would make the trip worthwhile.
It does tick me off that I have been to GDL 6 times and have never left the airport. Any info you can give me on making the best of the time I have without spending a lot would be great.
BTW; my last time through two weeks ago, Immigration at the airport was a total fucking zoo! 0630am, about 1000 people and zero crowd control. Two agents were stamping the foreigners. It took me almost 4 hours to clear! I never have experienced anything like it. Lots of pushing and line cutting, several fights and many fainting lady's. Security did absolutely NOTHING to maintain order. Does this happen often?[/QUOTE]I too am totally sued to Bangkok! I'll be GDL Saturday! Hope to find the answers to all our questions! I hope immigration is less insane when I get there. After that long flight I'll be in no mood for chaos. BTW, I hear mongering is similar to Thailand in terms of price and type
mai yao,
that's a tough one. given that you live in thailand and price is a consideration (prices for the best pfp options in gdl are similar to the u.s.), your best bet might be to stick with krispy kreme. taxi fare from the airport to downtown is around $20. it's more to zapopan, less to tlaquepaque.
there are a number of table dance clubs on the road between airport and downtown that are open at night along with a lot of short time hotels. these clubs are reasonably priced by guadalajara standards. i've had a car and never tried to pursue this option in a taxi, although i think you could pull it off without your own car.
during the daytime there are the esteticas masculinas or massage parlors. compared to places on, say, ratchadapisek road, the women are ugly and the facilities are run down. you'll pay from $40 for 30 minutes at some of the cheaper establishments to a little over $100 for an hour at my favorite, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. read the thread for more info.
if you're leaving in late afternoon, please be aware that mexicans eat lunch late. you may not have time to get back for your flight. my favorite restaurants are la matera, el jockey house grill, aniti li and i latina. you might have some trouble getting a taxi from the last two on my list, and the food has a bit of an oriental flare (maybe not desirable considering where you live), so you might want to scratch them. if you're going for lunch, i'd recommend you go to tlaquepaque. this part of guadalajara is close to the airport and has some really good restaurants. i don't remember their names, but el abajeno there is fun and has typical mexican food, although the food is not quite as good as some of the other places in tlaquepaque.
[quote=tiny 12; 1176241]mai yao,
that's a tough one. given that you live in thailand and price is a consideration (prices for the best pfp options in gdl are similar to the usa) , your best bet might be to stick with krispy kreme. taxi fare from the airport to downtown is around $20. it's more to zapopan, less to tlaquepaque.
there are a number of table dance clubs on the road between airport and downtown that are open at night along with a lot of short time hotels. these clubs are reasonably priced by guadalajara standards. i've had a car and never tried to pursue this option in a taxi, although i think you could pull it off without your own car.
during the daytime there are the esteticas masculinas or massage parlors. compared to places on, say, ratchadapisek road, the women are ugly and the facilities are run down. you'll pay from $40 for 30 minutes at some of the cheaper establishments to a little over $100 for an hour at my favorite, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. read the thread for more info.
if you're leaving in late afternoon, please be aware that mexicans eat lunch late. you may not have time to get back for your flight. my favorite restaurants are la matera, el jockey house grill, aniti li and i latina. you might have some trouble getting a taxi from the last two on my list, and the food has a bit of an oriental flare (maybe not desirable considering where you live) , so you might want to scratch them. if you're going for lunch, i'd recommend you go to tlaquepaque. this part of guadalajara is close to the airport and has some really good restaurants. i don't remember their names, but el abajeno there is fun and has typical mexican food, although the food is not quite as good as some of the other places in tlaquepaque.[/quote]good info; gracias, korb khun khrap. now waiting for the phone to ring for the next trip.
Back to mexico ($261 AA from NYC through Dallas). I am a gluton for punishment.
I will start my trip in guadalajara then head towards Mexico city and then who knows.
I am looking forward to my time in Mexico city. I really want to conquer that city. No promises though.
just completed my first 6 days, luckily a couple of more weeks to go! this city is fun as hell if you know where to go. i like to hit an esthetica as often as possible, and i really dig the street scene. it's nice to know you can get action 24/7. i did peek in to the doorways of other st hotels while walking around and the girls were nasty. but at the other main street areas mentioned in the forum, the girls are better than i expected (you do have to sometimes wait for the 'changing of the guard' so to speak for hot ones to come about). the whole "won't take their tops off" thing i noticed depends on the time of day you go. if i hit the streets at night, everything seems to be fair game for the equivalent of us$20. during the day (which is actually my favorite time to go) not so much. gdl food is freakin great, but heavy and i tend to get sleep around 9:pm lmao! dating non-pros seems to be pretty easy here. but why bother with the hassle of trying to leave them.
artisttyp, where are you staying?
[quote=worldwidescout; 1179190]just completed my first 6 days, luckily a couple of more weeks to go! this city is fun as hell if you know where to go. i like to hit an esthetica as often as possible, and i really dig the street scene. it's nice to know you can get action 24/7. i did peek in to the doorways of other st hotels while walking around and the girls were nasty. but at the other main street areas mentioned in the forum, the girls are better than i expected (you do have to sometimes wait for the 'changing of the guard' so to speak for hot ones to come about). the whole "won't take their tops off" thing i noticed depends on the time of day you go. if i hit the streets at night, everything seems to be fair game for the equivalent of us$20. during the day (which is actually my favorite time to go) not so much. gdl food is freakin great, but heavy and i tend to get sleep around 9:pm lmao! dating non-pros seems to be pretty easy here. but why bother with the hassle of trying to leave them.
artisttyp, where are you staying?[/quote]sounds great. i look forward to the food just as much as the sex. i won't be arriving until september but i welcome any advice you have to offer.
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[QUOTE=Brky06;1133576]Surprisingly Then I went on the internet to see if I could find what the locals are saying about the esteticas masculinas here. I find a blog dedicated to discussing the esteticas, I come across a price that says 350 pesos for completo. I have to check it out. So I write down the address hop in a cab and go to the location.[/QUOTE]Thank you for writing such detailed reports. I am currently gathering information for my upcoming trip. Can you please give us the url for the blog you were on? The places you describe sound like my type of scene.
You should also sign up as a senior member. It seems like you have a lot to offer.
Thanks Again,
Artisttyp
[QUOTE=Brky06;1133440]I found on an earlier post about a place to go with women for gdl. Its located on calle 52 between alvaro obregon and 12 de julio. I would NOT recommend going there at night. When I got there in the cab, the cab driver told me be careful because its a dangerous area. And when he said that I told him just to take me back to my hotel, I did not feel like watching my back and worrying about someone trying to get me. So I went home and went to bed by myself.[/QUOTE]Another good post. What do you mean by " a place to go with women for gdl?" What does gdl refer to and is this a street walker scene or what did you understand the set up to be?
Thanks
i'm heading off to puerto vallarta after spending 4 days in guadalajara. a non-monger friend said it was a great destination for cultural sightseeing, more on that later.
since this is a mongering site, let me state for the record (imo) that gua is not a great mongering destination. it is not even two notches below the great places in latino america that i've been to in the recent past. but, as they say, money is the best aphrodisiac, and if you have money, legs will magically pry themselves open for the right price. and gua is no exception, with some bargain basement prices i found.
let me say a few words about gua as a vacation destination. if you want to do some nice sightseeing and get a flavor the history and culture of mexico, book a 3-4 day vacation in downtown gua in the historic centro area. you could fill your days with architectural and museum viewing, interesting shopping (in the largest open air market in latin america, with great food). if you are familiar with diego rivera, the great mural painter of mexico (and husband of frida kahlo. salmita!) , the murals of juan orozco in two buildings downtown are even more amazing (and larger). and you should also check out tlaquepaque, a satellite city in the eastern district that is truly a cool artist colony, a kind of sante fe, nm, but with roving mariachi bands. two thumbs up to the restaurant chai, kitty corner from the holiday inn on avenida juarez. cool, hip place to hangout, have a coffee, chai, snack or full meal at ridiculously low prices. also heard of another nice artisan colony tonala', but didn't make it there.
ok, for those of you have managed to stick thru a whole paragraph without talk of p*ssy, you will now be mildly rewarded. before leaving, i prepared best i could by data mining the sparse posts in this forum. in another post i will do a listing post to sum up the findings wt69 style.
for gua, the 4 main areas of action are 1)"estetica masculinos" 2) independent chicas 3) strip clubs 4) short time hotels with fugly women. an estetica masculino, which should never be mistaken for the feminine kind, is basically a barber shop that sometime in the gua past also turned into a bordello. now follow along: "shave and a blow-job, two bits". some actually still have barbers and some give up on the pretense of metrosexual improvements. they're basically like a colombian casa. for the independents, you can find them in two main places: 1) internet sites 2) the classified of the metro newspaper, readily available at newspaper stands. seems like the strip clubs are clustered either downtown or on the way to airport (seems to be true of many cities).
so here's my experience, which is not much but i'm sure it will be helpful to some. i booked several nights in the avenida juarez holiday inn, a good choice for being close to the historic sightseeing areas, but not a good choice for mongering. the lobby is a long, narrow corridor by which the front desk has a perfect view of who's coming and going with a roving guard guy with a wire coming out of his ear. so i never tried chica delivery service, though some before me have. i suspect that they'll have to sign-in and such, but i didn't want to bother with potential hassles.
estetica #1: mediterraneo.
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the first estetica i went to was mediterraneo. this is on avenida ninos heroes. just locate the hotel mision carlton. the estetica is across the street and about 20 yards to the left (west). big sign for the place, nestled between 2 rental car places. i went in on a sunday and was greeted by a stocky but 5. 5 pretty young lady. of course, i asked to see a lineup, and the women were fairly ordinary looking. but then a cute little spinner suddenly appeared and i said to myself,"who she?". she was angie, a 4'11'.41 kg cutie. think a mixture of chick in a girl band and a hentai girl, latina style. she had bangs with long hair and colored the top of her head gray, and somehow it worked, because was pretty enough. she also had blue-gray eyes, very rare in mexico. she took me upstairs to the room and asked me to pay the bill, which is 540 pesos. before you go running to oanda. com, that is 45 dollars. for that kind of price, i kept my expectation low, but angie went beyond 45 bucks worth. firstly she has a cute little spinner body, and despite having one baby she has a *flat* stomach. permit me a sec to rant about the epidemic of fat women or women with substantial "panzitas" or "barrigas" in mexico, what we call a gut. god, it's awful and not only painful to the eyes, it's unhealthy. in any case, the flat belly and big nipples were a nice plus for angie. i thought she was very excited when i saw the nips, but no, she just has really big nipples for a spinner.
in any case, after the lame, perfunctory massage we got down to business. she did give me a cbj, but the tongue piercing, as well as tongue skill, made it better than expected. she at first didn't like me going near the y, claiming cosquillas / tickles, but i went real slow and suave and she eventually relented. she was playful during s*x, and offered different positions. the one big bummer was that the room had no ventilation and was like an oven, and i thought i had better finish this before i pass out, so i got her in doggy, put one hand on one shoulder another on a nalga, and used her like a large organic s*x toy. job complete. after a shower, and serenade to her of the rolling stones angie ("you can say we're satisifiiiyed") , which she knew, i gave her a big tip, and she was so happy about it, she said both gracias and zenk yu and gave me a beautiful ending smile. i walked back out into the bright gua sun happy and blown away that i just paid a mere 45 clams for so much fun with a cute 6-7 spinner.
strip club: titanic blue.
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from both internet searching and actual leg work, i located three strip clubs within walking distance of my holiday inn: 1) titanic blue on ramon colon 2) kristal, on the street "16th of september", right next to the teatro diana 3) lipstick: on calzada independencia norte. 83-a, just one block north of hidalgo, on the west side of the street. ballons decorate the entrance. (note: hidalgo / republica is the demarcation line between independencia norte and sur.)
one night, against my better judgment, and to satisfy my curiosity, i walked to titanic blue, which is south of avenida juarez on ramon colon. it was 11:30pm and the streets were empty, but i did not feel unsafe in the area. as soon as i stepped in, i was already getting annoyed. when you're the only gringo on a weeknight, you're sure to be a target for all sorts of upselling, getting nailed to a particular chica, etc. after getting frisked (and missing the navaja / knife in my left pants pocket) , i was shown to a table. an admittingly cute chica was in the final stages of taking all of her clothes on stage amidst the loud, thumping music. several groups of mexican dudes were around enjoying the view and of course, nothing more. i was told there was a two beer minimum of 6 bucks each. no sooner than 3 minutes go by when they plop a chica in my lap. now, some days when i'm home alone and the thought of a 6-7 level chica is rubbing her soft butt into my chest, it would be a nice fantasy, but the reality of the hard sell was having the opposite effect. not only that, her breath was lousy and she was blocking my view of another chica totally naked rubbing her exposed y up and down the pole (natural greasing?). the mexican guys loved it. my chica was named naomi, and she seemed to have blue eyes also (i asked her about colored contacts and she said no) , and was kinda cute, but she and a pushy waiter were trying to get me to go upstairs for a private showing and of course, mas dinero to be spent. finally, when it was naomi's turn to dance, i bolted to the door, paid for my 2 beers (and 1 for her) , and got the hell out of there. who knows, if i was hornier or i followed thru with naomi upstairs, it all would have been fine, but it wasn't that night for me. as they say, your mileage may vary. but i certainly saved myself a lot of bucks that night.
estetica [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
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first, a quick rant. although gringos do go to this place, it is mostly for rich guadalajaran businessmen (busy time post 6pm according to my chica). but still a little due-diligence on the name please! feels strange going to a place with a name with such negative connotations, and would be as weird as a brothel in the usa named violacion. but for the record, it is mexico, the word has no special meaning there, and it has a spanish pronunciation, which is "rah-pay".
important info, the address: 2934 lazardo cardenas, jardin de bosque, gua. do a google map search on it and you will find a nice picture of it. almost directly across this very busy highway is the estetica high class, which in contrast to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], is very easy to find, because its building is painted in red with giant "high class" lettering. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]'s location is much more subtle. it is on the access road and the building is slightly back from the road, and as such, there's a parking lot in front. perfect location for the businessman that doesn't want to be seen.
another note: it is just past a little traffic circle on the access road and be careful of the numbering on the houses. my taxi driver had a hard time finding it (on the side, when i hopped in the cab, i noticed an unusually excessive number of rosaries and jesus pix, and thought i would get a negative vibe from him, but as i got out of the taxi, he slyly smiled at me and said 'suerte! '. hombres son hombres, no?).
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is really a nice looking place, and it is really an estetica, with a beautiful, tastefully appointed lobby and a real barber shop in the first room past the lobby. poor barber guy, probably doesn't have much work during the day. anyway, the nice helper lady led me to a large room with a solid, from the floor, built-in massage table with a sauna and shower. she asked me if i wanted i sauna and i responded that the afternoon summer sun in gua already was enough of a sauna. so she told me to prepare for a lineup, and it was quite a lineup. all 30 women who work there were available at 4pm on a tuesday, and a dazzling display of feminine beauty from 6-8. 5 (always subjective, of course). i was parked in the doorway of my room surrounded by 30 dolled up women in a semi-circle waiting for me to choose. i made a joke, like "so much beauty that i'm dazzled", and watched what the reaction was. strangely enough i found myself saying "la primera", the first woman who came by to say hello, in the lineup, amelia, a 23 yr old hottie, gorgeous face, nice bod, long jet-black hair.
it didn't dawn on me till about 5 minutes later that i realized i just picked a woman who looked just like a medellin paisa. for latinas, they're a gold standard, no? in any case, it became apparent that the beauty <- service correlation was going to be in full force here, lots more rules, no daty, heaven forbid i mess her makeup, etc. quite a contrast to the humble and grateful angie at mediterraneo. but in the end, having her in doggie, and pounding this beautiful young creature is still better than a good day at the office, no? it was enough to finish me off. the damage was 1200 pesos (100 dollars). first and last time with amelia, but would i go back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] again? abso-frickin-lutely. the key is to get there when the gua businessmen are all working, and the best lookers are available. if you can't find something that you like in that lineup, as least in the looks department, then you shouldn't be mongering in gua.
short time hotels.
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if you walked around the neighborhood where calzada independencia and hidalgo / republic meet, there are several short time hotels on independencia and on one or two sidestreets. the ladies are in the doorways or in the lobbies waiting and i could see them as i slowly walked by in the late afternoon. nothing that i would pay for and to be honest, not many for whom i do for free if i had the chance. but of course there's always diamonds in the rough, just didn't see any for those moments i passed by.
Excellent report. I will put it to use in a few weeks when I go to guadalajara.
Did you get to do any non pro attempts like going to clubs etc. ? In general what kind of a reaction do women have to foreign men?
Artisttyp
I didn't indulge in any non-pro activity. Being Mexico, gringos are not so much an unusual sight. That being said, I hardly saw any non-Mexicans around in my days in GUA, and I did notice the occasional glance from women coming my way, not because I'm so damn pretty, just blue eyed and exotic looking. And I know enough about Mexicanas to know that many prefer a gringo over a local, due to attitudes emerging from the machista culture and all. Happy hunting!
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1183838]Did you get to do any non pro attempts like going to clubs etc. ? In general what kind of a reaction do women have to foreign men?
Artisttyp[/QUOTE]
For those who can read Spanish this article in Milenio newspaper is an excellent remark of the pseudo puritanism, double moral and hypocrisy that exists in Guadalajara (and Jalisco state) toward sex, high government officials (both male and female) were caught in shameless sex parties and some even were accused (with evidence) of having sex with girls at bars who were minors; using both traffic of influence and abuse of power.
Original article:
[url]http://impreso.milenio.com/node/9008475[/url]
Translated English Google version :
[url]http://translate.google.com.mx/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fimpreso. Milenio. Com%2Fnode%2F9008475[/url]
Those are the very same government officials that condemns prostitution among consenting adults and promote conservative "family values" such sex after marriage only and no use of condoms in sexual relations due religious fanaticism.
Bunch of Hypocrites !!!!
I'm in a little bit of a bind. I have a ticket for GDL leaving on Sept 6 but I didn't realize that Sept is still considered rainy season. I thought it would be nearing the end of it by then.
Does anyone have first hand knowledge of how intense the rain can be and if travel by bus to Mexico City and Acapulco will be as issue?
I've looked online but someone who is actually on the ground would be better suited to answer IMO.
Thanks.
Artisttyp
Rains not constant should not affect your trip at all. Bus travel no problem. Try GDL hotel I recommended to you in June.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1192068]I'm in a little bit of a bind. I have a ticket for GDL leaving on Sept 6 but I didn't realize that Sept is still considered rainy season. I thought it would be nearing the end of it by then.
Does anyone have first hand knowledge of how intense the rain can be and if travel by bus to Mexico City and Acapulco will be as issue?
I've looked online but someone who is actually on the ground would be better suited to answer IMO.
Thanks. Been there all September, GDL, Mexico city, Acapulco, sure some heavy rains but not consatant should be a problem at all with bus travel. Enjoy your trip go GDL hotel I recommended to you!
Artisttyp[/QUOTE]
With the demise of Mexicana, last year I wound up spending lots of nights at the hotel at the GDL airport, because the late flights I used to catch were gone and the next possible option left early the next morning. Generally I sit in the hotel and watch TV, and get work done, but if there was a convenient and relatively safe option nearby, I might be up for other entertainment options. Anybody got any nearby favorites that don't entail a trip into the city?
I'm in JHS' shoes looking for reco's.
Monterrey spoiled me. Not sure where to go in GDL.
Lady at the sex shop suggested.
Portillos Bar.
Chicas Bar.
Juniors.
I know there Juniors info here but anyone have intel on the others?
Went to Boom pre-9pm shift change as per recommendation on this site.
Gordos galore. But at least they offered free mosquito bites. Indoors.
Stayed for 1 drink and left before the sift change since according to a report here it gets worse after 9.
Went to the place to the left after but they were just opening. Did not care to stick around.
[QUOTE=TheGuyOverThere; 1194327]I'm in JHS' shoes looking for reco's.
Monterrey spoiled me. Not sure where to go in GDL.
Lady at the sex shop suggested.
Portillos Bar.
Chicas Bar.
Juniors.
I know there Juniors info here but anyone have intel on the others?[/QUOTE]Any idea where Portillos or Chicas are?
Definitely going to be stuck at the airport hotel before my flight out this next trip, so would be up for exploring. Also, are there any options that would involve getting a girl to come to the hotel there? My limited Mexico experiences have basically been strip-club centric to date.
[QUOTE=TheGuyOverThere; 1195201]Went to Boom pre-9pm shift change as per recommendation on this site.
Gordos galore. But at least they offered free mosquito bites. Indoors.
Stayed for 1 drink and left before the sift change since according to a report here it gets worse after 9.
Went to the place to the left after but they were just opening. Did not care to stick around.[/QUOTE]Approx 1/2 mile south, same side of the highway is "Cadillac Bar". Try it.
Going next week. Probably going to be stuck to the area around the airport. Anyone want to give me a ballpark idea on prices so I don't get screwed over?
[QUOTE=Gonzo; 1183829]I'm heading off to Puerto Vallarta after spending 4 days in Guadalajara. A non-monger friend said it was a great destination for cultural sightseeing, more on that later.
Since this is a mongering site, let me state for the record (IMO) that GUA is not a great mongering destination. It is not even two notches below the great places in Latino America that I've been to in the recent past. But, as they say, money is the best aphrodisiac, and if you have money, legs will magically pry themselves open for the right price. And GUA is no exception, with some bargain basement prices I found.
Let me say a few words about GUA as a vacation destination. If you want to do some nice sightseeing and get a flavor the history and culture of Mexico, book a 3-4 day vacation in downtown GUA in the historic centro area. You could fill your days with architectural and museum viewing, interesting shopping (in the largest open air market in Latin America, with great food). If you are familiar with Diego Rivera, the great mural painter of Mexico (and husband of Frida Kahlo. Salmita!) , the murals of Juan Orozco in two buildings downtown are even more amazing (and larger). And you should also check out Tlaquepaque, a satellite city in the eastern district that is truly a cool artist colony, a kind of Sante Fe, NM, but with roving Mariachi bands. Two thumbs up to the restaurant Chai, kitty corner from the Holiday Inn on Avenida Juarez. Cool, hip place to hangout, have a coffee, chai, snack or full meal at ridiculously low prices. Also heard of another nice artisan colony Tonala', but didn't make it there.
If you walked around the neighborhood where Calzada Independencia and Hidalgo / Republic meet, there are several short time hotels on Independencia and on one or two sidestreets. The ladies are in the doorways or in the lobbies waiting and I could see them as I slowly walked by in the late afternoon. Nothing that I would pay for and to be honest, not many for whom I do for free if I had the chance. But of course there's always diamonds in the rough, just didn't see any for those moments I passed by.[/QUOTE]Great report. I was in Guadalajara several years ago. I was in a serious relationship and was not mongering, but taking in all the tourist sites was awesome. I loved that open air market.
I think my then girlfriend and I definitely walked by the Calzada Independencia and Hidalgo / Republic area. I hardly spoke any Spanish then, my ex was totally fluent so that made travel easy. Anyway, we were once approached by several aggressive, overly friendly ladies in skimpy dress who grabbed at me. I grew up in a third world country, and immediately knew that they were providers. I explained this to my ex, who is a gringa, laughing as we walked away. She was not amused as the realization hit her.
[QUOTE=Gonzo; 1183829]I'm heading off to Puerto Vallarta after spending 4 days in Guadalajara. A non-monger friend said it was a great destination for cultural sightseeing, more on that later.
Since this is a mongering site, let me state for the record (IMO) that GUA is not a great mongering destination.[/QUOTE]I completely disagree. Gladly.
I can safely say I'm a world traveler and often have used the opportunities when had them to explore beauty around me. As far as GDL is concerned, enough to say that miss universe 2010 was actually from GDL! I've really laid eyes on the most beautiful, prettiest, funniest-to-be-with, women ever in GDL.
I was there one year ago, I was on business and had very little time to hook up, but even for me it wasn't by any means difficult. If you don't have much time around, head for the massage parlors. I had a private car and my driver drove me to couple of places. Petty I don't recall addresses. But it's established. 99% of massage parlors there would offer you a FS.
The two places I've been to, the girls were gorgeous, so friendly (despite my lack of Spanish) , and willing to make a guest happy.
GDL, definitely a place I wish to visit again
[QUOTE=CaiFkr; 1204468]I completely disagree. Gladly.
I can safely say I'm a world traveler and often have used the opportunities when had them to explore beauty around me. As far as GDL is concerned, enough to say that miss universe 2010 was actually from GDL! I've really laid eyes on the most beautiful, prettiest, funniest-to-be-with, women ever in GDL.
I was there one year ago, I was on business and had very little time to hook up, but even for me it wasn't by any means difficult. If you don't have much time around, head for the massage parlors. I had a private car and my driver drove me to couple of places. Petty I don't recall addresses. But it's established. 99% of massage parlors there would offer you a FS.
The two places I've been to, the girls were gorgeous, so friendly (despite my lack of Spanish) , and willing to make a guest happy.
GDL, definitely a place I wish to visit again[/QUOTE]Just got back from State of Jalisco. Went with a friend from there we not only had a good time in Guadalajara but the smaller towns north of there.
hello, i felt like this thread needed something like a "resume", or more like giving quick facts about guadalajara, from my experience, hope it helps.
first of all, i'm a local, if you wonder.
* avoid table dances, they are a rip off, i had been to several of them and the times i decided to have a girl sit in my table, the bill just went up to the sky.
* avoid "plaza del sol" and javier mina avenue, pretty much you'll find transgender there (generally after midnight and more in number at weekends) , the "pretty ones" are at plaza del sol if it's what you looking for.
* there's also transgender at plaza del mariachi.
* there are hookers in the infamous hidalgo hotel which been mention on this thread a lot. i would avoid them.
* there are street hookers at revolucion ave, but i would avoid them, low quality and high chance of getting a disease.
* if you still want to visit a table dance, i would recommend candys bar, pretty much any taxi driver will take you there. my best table dance experience was at titanic blue, but some people on this forum, didn't like it at all.
* i don't recommend going to the table dances that you find on the road between the airport and the city, not very safe.
* there's several table dances nearby ibm plant on the outskirts of the city (it's nearby el verde town, to the road that takes you to 'el castillo') , i don't recommend those, quite unsafe.
* there's nothing for you on the east side of the city, that's after libertad market (aka san juan de dios market) , there's 'action' but usually on shady places and low quality.
* for a good pop, visit a barber shop (estetica masculina) , one that nobody mention here and i highly recommend is 'select', it's on 2546 paz avenue (av. de la paz) and francisco de quevedo, pretty close to centro magno plaza, it's $1, 200p, last time i was there. another one is 'luigi's', it's on lopez cotilla 1882, one block from centro magno, last time i was there, price was $500p, there's single mom's pretty much, but service is good and every time i went there i left with a smile.
* people on this forum recommend '[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]', i hadn't visit it.
* there's other esteticas that i hadn't seen mention here, the ones i found but never tried: alex (it's on av. arcos, in front of a oxxo, a few blocks away from mariano otero) , lions (2167 niños heros ave, corner with simon bolivar) i should mention that there's plenty of esteticas nearby niños heroes statue, that's nearby chapultepec ave.
* to pick "local girls" try the bars at downdown.
* action is spread in guadalajara, we don't have a designated area.
* yes, women here are after money, not all of them, just the easy ones.
* if you like to pick women after their 40's try 'la copa de champagne' piano bar, it's by "glorieta colon", also many taxi drivers know where's located and zone is relative safe.
* avoid internet ads, on my experience, you don't get the girl from the picture, sometimes the phones are bogus.
* after the new law implemented by our goverment, ads are someone restricted metro, esto newspapers have few ads.
* avoid calling galilea models, at all cost.
* there's ads on the adult section on the yellow pages, but i don't recommend those.
* yes there's hookers at libertad market, so far i had only seen "one jewel", and no, i don't recommend going there for a pop.
* if you like transgenders, there's a local website (travestis mexico) , who have good looking models, i don't know how much they charge.
* if you rent a car, and drive around the city, at some point you might get "business cards" with girl phones (the hooker type) , so far, the phone on those cards are bogus, dunno if someone had luck getting actually a girl from those.
* many taxi drivers know a lot about mongering, ask them if you feel comfortable doing so.
* if by any reason you have to go santa anita town (tlaquepaque area) , avoid white / yellow cabs, they ask a lot of cash.
* yes, there's awesome food at tlaquepaque, but also good food at guadalajara and zapopan areas, i recommend "el rincon gaucho","los inmortales", if you need a fix for mexican food, go to "el tequila", those restaurants are easy to find and any taxi driver should know about them. avoid street food vendors if you are somewhat have a weak stomach.
* spanish is not a must, but it does help, many locals do speak english.
* this thread has way more information than all the "local" websites combined.
* the cheapest drinks in all town are usually from gay bars.
if i remember more information, i'll give it to ya, gl
I get into Guadalajara often but usually only during the afternoons and on Lopez Mateos between the Plaza del Sol and points south. (Back towards Jocotepec) Anyone know of places where one might find some daytime fun. Street, Table Dance, Bar, whatever.
Thanks in advance.
I will be there for business in several weeks time. I want to start corresponding with non-pros through a dating website in the hopes of meeting several like we do in the Philippines. I know this is probably not recommended, but what are the options other than amigos. Com? Are there "marriage agencies" like in Cali which help foreigners hook up with non-pro or semi-pro girls? I am not looking for marriage but would like to meet several I could stay in touch with and invite to my home country in the Caribbean. The girl does not have to be rich to get a tourist visa but she cannot be a professional puta. I know some Spanish.
impressive list of activities. thanks
top three mongering activities in gud?
[quote=ilpistolero; 1218037]hello, i felt like this thread needed something like a "resume", or more like giving quick facts about guadalajara, from my experience, hope it helps.
first of all, i'm a local, if you wonder.
* avoid table dances, they are a rip off, i had been to several of them and the times i decided to have a girl sit in my table, the bill just went up to the sky.
* avoid "plaza del sol" and javier mina avenue, pretty much you'll find transgender there (generally after midnight and more in number at weekends) , the "pretty ones" are at plaza del sol if it's what you looking for.
* there's also transgender at plaza del mariachi.
* there are hookers in the infamous hidalgo hotel which been mention on this thread a lot. i would avoid them.
* there are street hookers at revolucion ave, but i would avoid them, low quality and high chance of getting a disease.
* if you still want to visit a table dance, i would recommend candys bar, pretty much any taxi driver will take you there. my best table dance experience was at titanic blue, but some people on this forum, didn't like it at all.
* i don't recommend going to the table dances that you find on the road between the airport and the city, not very safe.
* there's several table dances nearby ibm plant on the outskirts of the city (it's nearby el verde town, to the road that takes you to 'el castillo') , i don't recommend those, quite unsafe.
* there's nothing for you on the east side of the city, that's after libertad market (aka san juan de dios market) , there's 'action' but usually on shady places and low quality.
* for a good pop, visit a barber shop (estetica masculina) , one that nobody mention here and i highly recommend is 'select', it's on 2546 paz avenue (av. de la paz) and francisco de quevedo, pretty close to centro magno plaza, it's $1, 200p, last time i was there. another one is 'luigi's', it's on lopez cotilla 1882, one block from centro magno, last time i was there, price was $500p, there's single mom's pretty much, but service is good and every time i went there i left with a smile.
* people on this forum recommend '[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]', i hadn't visit it.
* there's other esteticas that i hadn't seen mention here, the ones i found but never tried: alex (it's on av. arcos, in front of a oxxo, a few blocks away from mariano otero) , lions (2167 niños heros ave, corner with simon bolivar) i should mention that there's plenty of esteticas nearby niños heroes statue, that's nearby chapultepec ave.
* to pick "local girls" try the bars at downdown.
* action is spread in guadalajara, we don't have a designated area.
* yes, women here are after money, not all of them, just the easy ones.
* if you like to pick women after their 40's try 'la copa de champagne' piano bar, it's by "glorieta colon", also many taxi drivers know where's located and zone is relative safe.
* avoid internet ads, on my experience, you don't get the girl from the picture, sometimes the phones are bogus.
* after the new law implemented by our goverment, ads are someone restricted metro, esto newspapers have few ads.
* avoid calling galilea models, at all cost.
* there's ads on the adult section on the yellow pages, but i don't recommend those.
* yes there's hookers at libertad market, so far i had only seen "one jewel", and no, i don't recommend going there for a pop.
* if you like transgenders, there's a local website (travestis mexico) , who have good looking models, i don't know how much they charge.
* if you rent a car, and drive around the city, at some point you might get "business cards" with girl phones (the hooker type) , so far, the phone on those cards are bogus, dunno if someone had luck getting actually a girl from those.
* many taxi drivers know a lot about mongering, ask them if you feel comfortable doing so.
* if by any reason you have to go santa anita town (tlaquepaque area) , avoid white / yellow cabs, they ask a lot of cash.
* yes, there's awesome food at tlaquepaque, but also good food at guadalajara and zapopan areas, i recommend "el rincon gaucho","los inmortales", if you need a fix for mexican food, go to "el tequila", those restaurants are easy to find and any taxi driver should know about them. avoid street food vendors if you are somewhat have a weak stomach.
* spanish is not a must, but it does help, many locals do speak english.
* this thread has way more information than all the "local" websites combined.
* the cheapest drinks in all town are usually from gay bars.
if i remember more information, i'll give it to ya, gl[/quote]
Got a q.
My question: Is the scene still going on during Christmas to New Year's. Mainly I dig esteticas and street girls downtown. Hopeing they'll still be around.
Last time I was in GDL, I had a GREAT time with the "low quality" girls everyone warns against. They were strict with condom use (as was I) so not sure where the disease risk is. Has anyone one here caught anything. Or am I the only one that frequents the street girls when I'm feeling cheap and looking for a quickie?
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist;1221427]I will be there for business in several weeks time. I want to start corresponding with non-pros through a dating website in the hopes of meeting several like we do in the Philippines. I know this is probably not recommended, but what are the options other than amigos. Com? Are there "marriage agencies" like in Cali which help foreigners hook up with non-pro or semi-pro girls? I am not looking for marriage but would like to meet several I could stay in touch with and invite to my home country in the Caribbean. The girl does not have to be rich to get a tourist visa but she cannot be a professional puta. I know some Spanish.[/QUOTE]You're right, it's not recommended. Given that you know "some Spanish", my expectation is that you won't find the pickings any better than you would, say, in the U.S. The women in Guadalajara that I find most attractive (educated and sexy) have plenty of options, are not hurting for money, and they're materialistic.
The following is the only thing I'm aware of like a marriage agency: [url]http://www.mexican-brides.com/mexican_brides.htm.[/url] I looked at it maybe 10 years ago and some of the same women that were on the site then are still there, so I'd be very careful about shelling out for a membership. You could try match.com competitors like cybercupido of course.
With respect to a tourist visa, while I don't know where you live, the biggest issue could be getting your media naranja a visa for the US. Mexicans can go about anywhere in the world that they want to except the USA, and I think she'll need a USA tourist visa to transit in Houston or Miami or wherever. It's very difficult to get to many places in the Carribbean from Guadalajara without passing through the United States.
Thank you, Tiny. I sent 50 friend requests through Tagged.com and am averaging about 1/3 acceptance. I sent 26 messages on Amigos.com and have not received a single answer. I think the Tagged girls are much more lower class than the Amigos girls which might explain the difference. Also the Tagged request was just yes or no while the amigos note was written in imperfect but understandable Spanish.
There are flights to my island via Panama, even though it is cheaper through Miami.
If I have an extra 3 or 4 days after my business trip is over, would you think it would be worth it to fly to a city like Cali instead of staying in Guadalajara?
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist; 1223103]Thank you, Tiny. I sent 50 friend requests through Tagged. Com and am averaging about 1/3 acceptance. I sent 26 messages on Amigos. Com and have not received a single answer. I think the Tagged girls are much more lower class than the Amigos girls which might explain the difference. Also the Tagged request was just yes or no while the amigos note was written in imperfect but understandable Spanish.
There are flights to my island via Panama, even though it is cheaper through Miami.
If I have an extra 3 or 4 days after my business trip is over, would you think it would be worth it to fly to a city like Cali instead of staying in Guadalajara?[/QUOTE]I've found dating in GDL MUCH easier than in the U. S. Unlike USA girls, Mexican girls seem to actually LIKE men and are appreciative of romance. A simple line like "wow! Eres Muy Linda!" works for me almost every time. Online, I don't know about. Online dating seems easier in Mexico City. In GDL, I've foundd the old fashioned approach of just hitting on a girl in person works. Also unlike the USA the girls will put forth some effort, at the very least they will come half way with the courting and flirting process. You won't have to do all the work like you would with a girl from the USA If a mexican girl is interested, you'll know.
For wife hunting, maybe start hanging out in churches and make friends with elders? They'll introduce you to single daughters and neices that are looking for something long term and quality I would think.
WWS, I believe you and don't have any arguments, assuming your Spanish is good. You probably have more game than I do.
Cuba Tourist, I think that makes sense, that you're getting a better response from the lower class girls. You look at the bottom 50% in Mexico, and they're about as well off on average as your average Colombian. For the attractive, available, middle or upper middle class, educated tapatias, if they know you've got money and if you present yourself reasonably well you'll probably do okay assuming you can communicate. That means she either speaks decent English or you speak decent Spanish. I've never been to Cali, but had better luck with nonpros in Cartagena, Barranquilla, Medellin and Bogota than Guadalajara. As you probably already know, Copa has nonstops to Panama with good connections to Colombia, so that would be an option if your experience is like mine was. Have you tried the online thing in Colombia? If so were you getting more interest there than Guadalajara?
The "scene" always go on, the only downside, is the number of ladies available, many girls go to Puerto Vallarta.
[QUOTE=WorldWideScout; 1222197]Got a q.
My question: Is the scene still going on during Christmas to New Year's. Mainly I dig esteticas and street girls downtown. Hopeing they'll still be around.
Last time I was in GDL, I had a GREAT time with the "low quality" girls everyone warns against. They were strict with condom use (as was I) so not sure where the disease risk is. Has anyone one here caught anything. Or am I the only one that frequents the street girls when I'm feeling cheap and looking for a quickie?[/QUOTE]
I have recently returned to the land of mean spirited selfishness after 3 months of teaching English in Guadalajara. My ball and chain accompanied me, lucky me, precisely to cock block me I'm sure but the esteticas masculinas gave me an outlet. As a long time lurker and short time member of ISG, I felt it was only fair to share my observations.
The street scene and the strip clubs suck as has been discussed here. Guadalajara has these distinct institutions, male beauty salons. What would a male really want at a beauty salon? How about a nude massage, BJ, DATY, possibly, yes possibly GFE, and DATY. The first estetica I tried was Mediterraneo. I think they're a victim of their own success. For 520 pesos, I got a pretty girl with bolt ons, a lame message. 30 seconds of DATY and pleasant, but univolved sexo. Then I tried the lowest of the low end, Alexander's near Juarez station. The mamasan took a shine to me. For 325 pesos, I got a 20 minute deep tissue massage, BJ, dfk, unlimited DATY, and "servicio completo." Dude, that's 15 dollars for the massage and 10 dollars for the "extras." I ended up doing Chrissy once a week every week thereafter. Very GFE, she said we were "buen amantes.", good lovers and the experience was muy intenso for her. (what else would you expect from lengua de oro?) She told me the other girls who worked for her were lazy and just wanted to bang guys for 5 minutes. Don't know. Couldn't try. I tipped her well. 50 to 75 peos. By the way, always bring as close to the correct change as possible. Even at big stores, Mexicans often don't have much change.
Barbara at Jimmy's was nice, a brick shithouse but no DATY. (400 pesos) The other girls there (2) , smiled at me as I left. I did Andrea at Venezias for 380. New to the business, the massage and BJ were awful but the sexo was great. Three girls were presented to me at Italia's, near 9 corners. Using some sort of reverse psychology, I took the heaviest Diana. She was ok but when I returned they wanted to stick me with her again and my Spanish wasn't good enough to correct the situation, so I left.
Diamonds on Montenegro has its own angle. I was forwarned by ISG. First you get a great massage for 200 pesos. Then they discuss the sexo. You're so relaxed, what are you going to say, No? I got Paty who was an older girl with a very hairy muff. I enjoyed it but the cost was 620 all in. For half that I could have Chrissy. No repeat at Diamonds. The same guy owns Venezia, Alexanders and Sagitarius on Federalissimo. Good sexo with Diana at Sagitarius but no DATY for 400 pesos.
My final review is of Luigi's on Lopez Cotilla. Here I acted wisely for a change and had some really good times. First I had Adrianna, great body. I asked her if she had had a boob job expecting no for the answer. She said yes. It was hard for the discerning eye to tell. Adrianna was a non-orgasmic Mexican provider, if that's not an oxymoron. Despite my tongue and her fingers, we couldn't get her off. They tried to match me with her the second time but I showed some balls and picked Paulina, pretty girl but no DATY and rather tired conventional sex. Third time I got the 28yo brick shithouse Sandy. Wow! Totally amoral and totally into it. Then she wasn't there and I got the morena Vanessa. Loved DATY but had little breasts so would probably lose out to Sandy for a repeat. My last session in GDL, I was supposed to session with another girl (who told me she lked DATY) but she wasn't there. So I selected Sandy. Great session. ONe thing I learned from Chrissy and Sandy. ONce a Mexicana is into a sex rhythm, don't try to slow it up. Go with the flow.
Mexican women love food, dancing and sex, and not necessarily in that order.
Would you believe me if I told you that Mexicanas are totally ready for sex within a minute of being touched or caressed? That would be a lie, they're ready within 15 seconds. Maybe it's the hot sun or the Catholic culture of Jalisco but it happened too often not to be true. There are many beautiful women in GDL with tight pants and sexy shoes but they don't eyeball men the way pros in Santo Domingo or Medellin do. But behind closed doors.
My advice to anyone trying the esteticas is to find some you have a good session with. If the second session is even better, you've got a solid squeeze for your time in GDL. If the second session is blah, keep on moving. There are plenty of esteticas.
Alexander's near Juarez station / Subway Refill Card.
Great reporting and very helpful info.
Guadalajara is huge city to navigate without running up huge taxi bill in 100's of pesos. Good public bus and subway system (Line 1 and 2) exist. Fatest mode would be the subway from point A to B in peak hours. Near Juarez station to Alexander masculinas sounds very appealing.
Subway fare is 7 peso but requires a refill card. Have no idea how one attains this subway refill card other than ask stranger for help with 10 pesos.
I will be in Guadalajara, as you all know now, for about a week at the end of January. I will try to date the non-pros and see what happens so I am writing girls on Tagged and Match. Com. Mx. So far. 30 messages sent and 6 replies, but it is only about 24 hours. If I can get dates to show me around and have fun with them, I will be pleased, sex or no sex. I would then like to invite some back to visit me on my island the following month. It is much harder than Colombia, however, and I am starting to see similarities with the US. But 4 of the 6 are under 26 and I am 41 so that is pretty good. Some seem wild and some look like good girls. None have been approached by an American before.
Wel I arrived today and am staying downtown. I have 8 phone numbers but just started chatting to a very pretty girl in one of the plazas and think that is probably better than the internet, which was alot of work and not so great. If any one is here now, pm me and we can get together.
The average girl on the street definitely seem to be better looking in Guadalajara than in Mexico city, not exactly the same standard as walking around Cuba but there's a lot of cuties wandering around. I went by mediteranio, they presented the girls by one. Ok selection, probably about 3 7s. Picked a blonde with a nice rack and arse who seemed to have a good attitude. 540 for the session. NIce cheeky massage then she started a BBBJ paused after a couple of minutes and then asked if I'd tip her otherwise she'd put on the rubber, I nodded and she carried on with gusto. Nice almost GFE session, tipped her 200 for CIM, smiles all round.
Hey there! I am only here one more day in Gdl but I have a nice story to share with a great new place that just opened up 2 months ago that has some awesome "talent". I have not written a report in a while so my report writing style is definitely a bit rusty, but I will share a lot of information here so anyone reading can find the massage parlor and know what the prices are before walking in. I can give some details about the women, but I have only been with three of them as of this writing. But all of them are really nice, friendly and seem to be a lot more relaxed at this place than at others I have gone to in the past. And there is a wonderful reason why. Here is my report:
I had been away from mongering in Mexico for awhile, and had a nice thing going with one of the workers at the Geisha Massage parlor in downtown Guadalajara. So I went back to Geisha to try to find her and sadly they informed me she was no longer there (her working name is "Dany". Short for Daniela).
So saddened by the news, I remembered I had the card Dany had given me for Geisha with her name and her cell phone number on the back. We never met outside of Geisha but I had called her before to see how she was and to find out if she was working certain days. But it had been over a year since I had contacted her and cell phone numbers are notorious for being lost when someone gets their cell stolen or it falls into a puddle, gets eaten by the dog. Etc.
So I sent a text to her from my Mexican cell phone that I have and hoped for the best. And amazingly, the best doesn't describe what happened next! It turns out it was her number still and she sent me a text back! She is now running her own, very modern styled, massage parlor with other women who had left Geisha. It is called "Dany's". I went the very next day and was thrilled to see Dany. She no longer works as a "service provider" but she has a good staff of young women working there and she is much more in tune with them and they with her. She is not your average "madame". She actually treats her workers as equals and with a much better attitude. I would expect no less from Dany, her heart and spirit caught my interest from the first time I met her years ago at Geisha. Her sex skills also "held" my "interest" of course. But it is so much better when you really like the person you are with and they like you too. And being a repeat client sure helps, plus it does tend to make for better and better sessions together and sometimes even time spent outside of the massage parlor whether going out to a hotel privately with them or simply going to a store together or getting some help with trying to find something in the country / city you are visiting. That's a bit beyond what most of us are on here for, but if you treat these women well and continue seeing them over time, you'll be pleasantly surprised how well they will treat you!
Anyway. Here is the important information for all of us out there. Location and Price:
Location: Estetica Dany's is on Avenida De La Paz #1561 between the streets of Enrique Diaz De Leon and Belgica. They are directly across the street from a very nice vegetarian restaurant. If you see "Restaurante Vegetariano" on the opposite side of the street, you know you are very close to Dany's! If you take a taxi to this place, ask for them to take you to the vegetarian restaurant so you can avoid the taxi's commission. I tend to scope out the place first and find a nice business nearby and if I choose to take a taxi there I have them take me to the other shop or business nearby and I step inside long enough for the taxi to leave. Then I go about my "real" business and monger in peace. Works better for me and the girls get to keep more of the money I spend on them and everyone is happy.
Price: They are having promo's right now since they are new and hit the ground running hard! From 10am (when they open) to about 2PM, they offer a 15 Minute special for $200 Pesos. I have not done that, maybe tomorrow, but I believe it is full service. A quickie, one "pop".30 minutes with full service. 1 "pop", costs $350 Pesos. 45 minutes with 1 "pop" costs $450 Pesos. And 1 full hour with 2 "pops" costs $600 pesos. There are more services available, such as having two women at the same time and probably 1 1/2 hours as well. I don't know those prices, but once you are at 45 minutes you are paying roughly 10 pesos per minute. I found that 1 hour for $600 is great, and 45 minutes is also good. I tend to tip lightly as I instead "come" by more often and bring the women fresh fruit or pan dulce and things like that for all the workers and Dany to enjoy. If I was rich I would tip more, of course, but I am not. I generally tip about 10% for the 45 minute session. So 450 pesos turns into 500 pesos. At 600, I still give about 50 pesos, although I am tempted to just go with the 600 as it is already 100 more than the 45 minute session and usually one "pop" is all I need to keep me quite happy.
I have been there three times so far in the week or so that I re-established contact with Dany. I started out with the 30 minute, but converted that to a 45 minute session moments after choosing Krystal. We just hit it off really well. I had hoped Dany would still do some services, but Dany is now a "behind the desk" worker and she has a lot to take care of for the moment to moment functioning of the place. Krystal has very smooth skin, seems to be in her mid 20's, nice chest, a little more meat on her but in the right places for me! It was a very nice session and a great welcome to Estetica Dany's. Krystal gave me some good GFE our whole session, and she was very interested in learning English. Dany made it clear that things like that have to be handled outside of work hours, so I was not able to settle on how to teach Krystal English, but I hope to! She's a doll! Lovely, velvety, milk chocolate skin! She started out my massage with lots of little kisses all over my back. It was awesome!
The next one I was with is called Naomi. She's very light skinned, short and has nice nipples. She gives a very nice CBJ, but her doggie style will get you going hard and fast! She can hang with the rythm and I almost blew my load not long into the session because of how nice she feels in that position! She has a very pretty face and I love to look at these wonderful women and take the time to caress their faces and hair and treat them as I would a girlfriend. For the short 45 minutes to an hour I am with them, they are my girlfriend. They are the girl who just can't say no! . She started out on top, then doggie, then we went to Mish and that got me to "pop" big time. But we still had some time on the clock and she was not in a hurry to leave. We talked about her kids, how she got into the business, her hopes for her future and other things. It was really nice, and she's smart and realizing that this is not something she can do forever. She is not wasting her money and she goes the distance to give a great service. One of her legs was really bothering her because she had hiked the day before (her day off) with friends and family, but she still rode me like a jockey before I realized that it was not easy for her to do. Doggie was better and Mish great. But she was quite enthusiastic in the doggie position! So you doggie style lovers, be warned! Go for the full hour session with her if you tend to bust a nut in that position!
Friday I was with Alejandra and though she is not as pretty as some of the other women there, she has such strong legs and such a wonderful, positive attitude that I am going to have a hard time NOT choosing her again! (I am sampling a different woman each time. The sacrifices I make to write reports) Alejandra can also suck start a diesel truck. She started out on me with a CBJ that felt incredible. It's better to be covered for safety sake, although that takes away some from the BJ, but she just has a lot of tongue strength! Her legs are also very strong and sturdy, and she rode me like a harley! She also has cinnamon colored skin,"piel canela", very nice. Just a shade lighter than Krystal, and again very smooth skin, very sexy! Her nipples are luscious, very pointy, wonderful to suck on. But having her ride me cowboy style was great, and she really got into it. Afterwards we went to doggie, and that was OK (It's not my favorite position). Then we went to Mish and then modified Mish (where you have the woman close her legs while you are still in her and you lock legs together to get a nicer, tighter compression. Awesome!). That's where I lost it and had my first "pop".
We cuddled and hugged and talked for a while. I had brought my MP3 player and some small powered speakers and played some nice music and that seemed to really set the mood and made things really nice. It was not too loud and we talked about a number of things. Very GFE. Then she continued to cuddle with me and we spooned, and things just got hot again and we went for round two. Again, her on top, only this time she really got into it! It was nice but wow, this woman has great leg strength, great muscle tone. After a while of that we went to Mish and modified mish and I finished again, drained of any and all juice down there and quite satisfied. She gave me a kiss and it was not a peck, but a genuine kiss. We cuddled a bit longer and then I hit the showers. I don't think we ran over the time limit. It's important the girls don't do that or they can get in trouble. Dany would not dock their pay like the other places do, but I am sure she'd give them a warning and a talking to.
My experience so far with Dany's Massage parlor has been excellent. It's likely that having been one of Dany's clients in the past helps with the girls now, but they all used to work at Geisha's so they know each other and Dany treats them as an equal. I think that has more to do with their morale and attitude, that they work for someone they like and who treats them as an equal. I have seen it as I have been privvy to hang out with the girls before and after my session as I wait to talk with Dany. I have been able to talk with Dany a bit during each visit. Dany actually makes sure the workers get a bigger share of the money than the business, which is opposite how many of these places work. The girls confirmed it and some of them have worked at places like Mediterraneo and High Class before, not just at Geisha. They get around 60% of what you pay for the service. Most other places only give the women 40. I only have Dany's word and the word of the women working at the massage parlor to go by with this, but they have no reason to lie to me. I can see it in the way they treat each other and how they look up to Dany. They don't tremble in fear of their boss and they don't seem to have cat-fights among themselves (at least right now). That makes a big difference in the kind of service you and I receive.
The showers are very nice, clean, modern. Plenty of hot water, very clean toilets, and they provide you with shower slippers so you don't slip in the shower. That's very, very important. Wear them when you use the shower and when you walk out of the shower. Mexican tile is generally very slippery when wet. That kind of "wet" is not good for mongering. Nothing will take the hardness out of your rod faster than a slip and fall onto tile and concrete flooring!
I am going to ask Dany to get permission to take pictures of the rooms and hopefully I can get some pics of the girls if they're OK with it. Then when I figure out how to upload pictures here I will send them up. The rooms at places like High Class, Geisha, and some of the other places I have been to in Guadalajara had seen much better days. The shower heads at High Class used to be terrible! I don't know how they are now, but Dany's work perfectly and don't spray water all over the floor over the sliding glass doors. Much more like taking a shower at home after having great sex!
OK it's a long report, but it has been a while for me. Being stuck in the USA is not fun at all. Having sex with a USA woman is an ordeal before, during and after. Instead of that I'll go with my own "five-fingered discount" every time and just reminisce of the Mexican beauties I have been fortunate enough to have been with over the years!
Happy mongering all!
Thank you Mojado!
Mind providing a few more details?
- hours of operation.
- shift peak hours and number of girls.
- selection and ratings of available choices by sight.
Really appreciate the post!
Thanks for the great report. Probably one of the best I've read w / re to GDL.
I too love Latin women, and especially those Big-Eyed ones in GDL.
I currently have a Live-In Mexican GF that is 25 years younger than I, and she is always ready to enjoy sex. ALWAYS. I think she gets horny just putting on her lipstick. LOL.
I'm sending you a PM, and would like to hear more about ESL programs.
Thanks again for the great report,
CL.
[QUOTE=Smithersl2004; 1229322]I have recently returned to the land of mean spirited selfishness after 3 months of teaching English in Guadalajara.
The correct change as possible. Even at big stores, Mexicans often don't have much change.
ONce a Mexicana is into a sex rhythm, don't try to slow it up. Go with the flow.
Mexican women love food, dancing and sex, and not necessarily in that order. AND Alcohol, tambien!
Would you believe me if I told you that Mexicanas are totally ready for sex within a minute of being touched or caressed? That would be a lie, they're ready within 15 seconds. Maybe it's the hot sun or the Catholic culture of Jalisco but it happened too often not to be true. There are many beautiful women in GDL with tight pants and sexy shoes but they don't eyeball men the way pros in Santo Domingo or Medellin do. But behind closed doors.
My advice to anyone trying the esteticas is to find some you have a good session with. If the second session is even better, you've got a solid squeeze for your time in GDL. If the second session is blah, keep on moving. There are plenty of esteticas.[/QUOTE]
Can you please name those bars where hunting for local "freebees"?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Ilpistolero; 1218037].
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* To pick "local girls" try the bars at Downdown
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Saturday I decided to give a try to Danny's Estetica, mentioned a few posts back.
Address is the one mentioned and name is written outside, so easy to find.
Opening hours are 10 AM to 8. 30 PM Mon to Sat. 10 AM to 3. 30 PM on Sundays.
Place is quite new and rooms / shower are clean.
Got there around 4. 30 PM, there were 7 girls on duty. I saw Kristal, whom was mentioned by another member. She was passable.
I only saw a couple of girls who were attractive (to me, of course). Others were too old or too fat.
I decided to try Wendy, morena with hot face, skin like tanned, thin body with nice legs.
Took her for 1 hr at 600 pesos.
Bad surprise when she undressed: stretch marks on her belly, baby obviously. Actually three!
Anyhow, I enjoyed the session, she was really into it.
Her oral skills are excellent. Unfortunately it was CBJ otherwise I would have finished in her mouth.
I finished missionary instead.
After a regular massage, we had a second session. I asked her to stand up in order to take her from back.
She obliged and asked to position ourselves so she could see us in the mirror: she loved looking while I was screwing her from the back. Then we tried doggy and I believe this is position she likes the most.
Some stats:
Age: 30
Occupation: working girl
Rate: pesos 600
Height: 160 cms / 5. 2 ft
Weight: 45 kgs / 100 lbs
Face: 8/10
Hair: black
Body: 7/10
Tits: 6/10 but with nice nipples
Pussy: 9/10
Skin: 9/10
Skills: 9/10
Passion: 8/10
Foreplay: 6/10
Kissing: no
CBJ: 10/10 (asked for BBBJ offering extra but not accepted)
CIM: no
DATY: yes
FS: all positions you may think
Anal: not asked
Repeat: maybe
I was headed to GDL from Mazatlan but headed to Tijuana instead. I'd love to read a brief summary on your thoughts regarding GDL as a city mongering food shopping a overall value? You are well traveled so I value your opinion.
What kind of an exchange rate are you currently getting? When I was in Mazatlan 2 weeks ago they were giving 11. 50 to the dollar. Someone said the further south you go the exchange rate gets lower.
I'll weigh in even though the question wasn't directed to me. GDL does not offer the monger good value for the money, for women or food, except at the low end. I pay $100 at an estetica for what might cost me $150 to $200 in an Asian massage parlor in the USA. An attractive escort costs 60% to 100% of the price in Texas. A poke in a good strip club costs more in Guadalajara than Houston, although you do get a bit more privacy and time in GDL. Good restaurants cost about the same as in the small city where I live in the US. I don't know where you're exchanging money, but if it's at banks, which have branches all over the country, it's not going to make any difference whether you're in the north or the south. While I use ATM's, not banks or casas de cambio , at 11.50 to the dollar I know you're getting screwed. I was in Mexico over the weekend and banks were giving around 12.50.
First of all, thanks Artisttyp for your consideration.
Unfortunately in this case I cannot be useful as this is only second time I visit this city and first time I monger here.
In general I can tell that GDL is a nice city where you can spend at least a couple of days and see its cultural heritage, in case you are interested in sightseeing too.
People are nice, prices are in line with other Mexican destinations (I don't know Tijuana in particular) and cheaper than in other latin-american countries like Brazil or Chile for similar level hotels or restaurants.
As far as exchange rates are concerned, they look same to me at every destination. Honestly, I don't think that going south it gets worst.
Thank you for your responses.
Been back at Valentino a couple of times over the past few months. Main reason is that I hooked up with Estrella, and by pure accident. Not really a true stunner, but she was the best looking one there. But the service, OMG. A deep throat BJ which makes the angels sing, seriously, never had anything quite like it. She works the afternoon shift, and really gives you bang for the bucks.
Probably only CBJ available for firsttimer with her. But trust me, makes no difference at all.
I have been checking the site for updates in GDL for some time now. And I finally got the chance for a very short visit.
I was staying across from the convention center which is like the desert for action, so I consulted the pages and planned my expedition.
Once I figured out the area around the Mediterraneo, I found that the Carlton Mission hotel was nearby. So with my little spanish, I wrote out the Hotel name and hopped into a taxi. It was 6:30pm so there was some traffic, within 20 minutes I was being dropped off at the Mission Carlton. I waited for the taxi to drive away (to avoid commission) and quickly crossed the street.
Let me describe the Mediterraneo, it is an open storefront with Yellow paint and bars instead of glass. Private parking in the back. I opened the door and was greated by 8-10 ladies and I was quickly grabbed by this pretty young thing with braces and natural tits. She was a real spinner, beautiful eyes and just the right size all around. We went upstairs right away and had to search for a clean room. She collected the 540 and returned with my change while I was taking a shower.
The room was simple but complete with twin bed, shower and dressing area. Plenty of clean towels, hot water and soap. She brought me a cold drink and stripped down and joined me on the bed. It started with a nice back rub and then the flip. She straddled me and started the HJ and then the CBJ. Once thngs were covered, she lubed the tunnel and my tube and started with her on top. It was a nice show with the mirror on the ceiling. Thinks progressed to Mish, doggie and at one point she offered greek for 1000.
She was tight, fun and all natural. (No DATY for me, by choice) I finished inside doing mish. She cleaned me up, removed the cover and we took a shower.
I left her 150 as a tip and she seemed greatful and walked me out.
I got lucky and grabbed a taxi that was waiting for another guy and was back at my hotel in time for dinner.
Sorry no photos, my too dark for my video and she would not let me use my camera phone.
I will be back in GDL next month and plan to make some more visits, so if you have suggestions please let me know.
Nice report Rednose, thanks
So I had a break from my work week today and decided to wander back to the Mediterraneo. It is a Tuesday and mid-day. Took a short cab ride from one end of Ninos Heroes to the other for 70 pesos. Opened the door and was greated by "Mona" we worked out the $ and found a quiet room to the back. After my shower she started with a massage on my back then flipping me over and a breast massage on the front. I would estimate a 34C with big brown nips, evidence of a C section. She wrapped me and greased things up and quickly mounted me in an extreem reverse cow-girl. This of course led to about 4 or 5 other positions ending with mish. The surprize here was after I finished, she kept me in and moving until she finished. Very Special. We cleaned up with a shower and then got dressed.
Did you know there is a Walmart on the corner?
So after killing an hour at wally world, I wandered back to Mediterraneo and grew the balls to go back in. Walking past Mona I discovered Marlena. I am estimating 32A on top with no evidence of kids. Large areola and flesh colored nips. Trimmed close but not shaved. No need for a massage this go around. She walked up to me after my shower and we started rubbing each other like old friends, this led to her biting my nipples and anything else she could get between those pearly whites. This time it started with her on top, then me on top, doggy and finished with a reverse mish which to me is the hottest because you enjoy ass as well as vagina. We cleaned up in the shower and then I made sure to hit the cab stand and get out of dodge. I have to be on my feet the next two days.
Both even allowed a no-face photograph.
Enjoy and be safe!
Well since I am the only one alive on this thread, I will add another report.
After a very long and non-productive day I found myself looking at the clock and the sun was soon to set. I hopped into yet another cab and headed to my home away from home the Mediterraneo. I was greated by Mona from my last visit and she was visibly dissapointed when I asked to see the rest of the team. I selected Candi. 23 tall with a slight baby roll only noticeable when she sat down. Up to the room and a quick shower. She is a 2 condom girl, one for CBJ and the other for everything else. Her natural tits were very nice but there was something stange about them. You may have guessed that she was lactating. When I played with her nipples they took on a life of their own leaking and squirting all over her chest. During the CBJ she used just the right amount of teeth to hit the good spots. So in between nipple squirts she could easily suck me dry. On to the main event she changed to my Trojan and applied some extra KY. Things started with cowgirl and then reverse cowgirl on to some fierce doggy, mish and finally reverse mish. I checked my watch and I was in the room for a full 45 minutes. We hit the shower and she filled me in on her life story. 9 month old. 5 year old and 22 YO husband, next kid in 4 years.
She walked me out and kissed me goodbye at the gate.
Bottom line if you are into lactation, you better get your ass over soon. AND you better write about it.
Saturday 30th & Sunday 1st will be DRY in Guadalajara, the entire state of Jalisco actually, and probably many other states in Mexico, for the federal election.
NO alcohol sales permitted anywhere. NO stores, bars, clubs, restaurants I'm not sure about. Some bars won't even open Friday, they'd have to close at midnight.
Hey everyone I read through most of the posts here. And have narrowed down my options to 2 places based on what I have read.
Mediterraneo
Danny's.
Considering I am leaving back to chicago tomorrow evening and I am staying with family here that won't let me out of there sight. I came up with a good excuse to get away for a few hours."going to the gym" funny but its going to work. I EFFIN HOPE.
Therefore, I only have a few hours to monger. And don't want to waste any time but I curious to know which would be a best option Mediterraneo or Dany's? I am going to try Danny's first just because of the price options posted by another user and might even head over to Med after. Fuck it why not fuck 2 girls for under 100 us.
If anyone has any thoughts in such short notice please post. Otherwise I'm sticking with my plan. I will post my experiences as soon as I get back to the Chi so fellow mongers can make a wiser decision. And thanks to all the fellas who posted detailed reports with addresses as I will reiterate them in my next report.
Monger Love!
[QUOTE=BlockHead Chi; 1309737]Hey everyone I read through most of the posts here. And have narrowed down my options to 2 places based on what I have read.
Mediterraneo
Danny's.
Considering I am leaving back to chicago tomorrow evening and I am staying with family here that won't let me out of there sight. I came up with a good excuse to get away for a few hours."going to the gym" funny but its going to work. I EFFIN HOPE.
Therefore, I only have a few hours to monger. And don't want to waste any time but I curious to know which would be a best option Mediterraneo or Dany's? I am going to try Danny's first just because of the price options posted by another user and might even head over to Med after. Fuck it why not fuck 2 girls for under 100 us.
If anyone has any thoughts in such short notice please post. Otherwise I'm sticking with my plan. I will post my experiences as soon as I get back to the Chi so fellow mongers can make a wiser decision. And thanks to all the fellas who posted detailed reports with addresses as I will reiterate them in my next report.
Monger Love![/QUOTE]On my first trip to the MED, I left my hotel, took a cab back and forth, had my session and total time was 2 hours. Just like when I go the to the GYM. In 3 hours, you could have 2 sessions (if you are up to the challenge!)
We are all looking forward to your report.
GDL the last week of October. I've been reading the last 20 pages of this forum. Thank you all for the helpful information and valuable contribution on this board.
Cheers.
ok, i've read the post here for a few years now. i've lived here in guadalajara for about 4 years. i checked out danny's about three times in the past five months. i have to say i wish it was a better experience each time. it is a value, but the girls overweight and a 4/5. don't get me wrong the girls are nice and get the job done, but there a too many places here. the place i have found that has the 8's and 9's is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], but 1200 pesos for 2 services is a little on the high end. i'm looking forward to hitting up the mediterano and jetset. still looking for that 10 in the rough. any suggestions would be much appreciated! i usually attend places in early afternoon.
I've lived here for 2 years, haven't gone to any of these places yet. I finally found JetSet yesterday but was too chicken to go inside. My spanish is meh so I worry that it may be difficult. Anyone have a detailed report on JetSet? Primarily looking for a massage, BBBJ and CIM.
[quote=osmosis;1325945]i've lived here for 2 years, haven't gone to any of these places yet. i finally found jetset yesterday but was too chicken to go inside. my spanish is meh so i worry that it may be difficult. anyone have a detailed report on jetset? primarily looking for a massage, bbbj and cim.[/quote]i've been to jetset several times, but not in the last few years. in terms of looks the women were so-so, and the facility was somewhat run down. it was the standard estetica experience -- they'd bring by the women, and there were only a few. you make your selection, spend some time in the sauna or shower or whatever if you want, then massage and sex.
if you're looking for bbbj and cim you'll stand a better chance there than, say, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. it's going to really be hit and miss though. i'd guess the majority won't do it. if your spanish is bad you could write this down on a piece of paper and give it to the mamasan/papasan --
quiero una mamada sin condon, y dejar mi leche dentro de la boca. puedes elegir a una mujer para mi?
How to properly ask for CIM was bugging me so I asked an expert. Quisiera terminar en la boca is much better than what I wrote below.
Hey everyone out in Mongerland! I've been away from Mexico for a few months now. I spent a while there last year and part of this year and I also spent a lot of pesos at Danny's Estetica! I hope my reference helped those of you who were looking for some super clean facilities and some super sexy ladies that know how to take care of a guy. They are not 10's or 9's in looks, maybe even not 8's to some of us on here but each one I was with was extremely hot and high on the charts where it matters! Great sex and especially for the price. And you don't have to be afraid of a run down facility or creaky "planchas" (massage / sex beds).
I hope to spend about a week or so in Guadalajara and I will be going back to Danny's Estetica to revisit some of the gals there. As one of us below mentioned, Wendy presents really well and is an amazing gal when you take her into a room! She also knows a little bit of English, not much but she can sort of get by. At least that was a few months ago, she might be taking classes. I know three of the gals there were talking about it because they were getting more and more Americans and Canadians showing up. I will let the crew here know what I find.
When I left the elections were coming up in a few months and the city imposed a lockdown on the local publications that list the Esteticas and mongering holes and that really hurt things for everyone. Hopefully that is over and the good times are rolling again. We don't want these places going out of business as the more of them that are out there, the more of us can get down and get laid at good prices. You can get those publications cheaply at the little newspaper stands on the streets. Just ask for "periodico donde muestran esteticas para hombres" or "busco casas de cita / esteticas". Just be sure you size up the person working the newspaper stand. As long as it's a guy you are pretty much OK. Older women, too, they know what men like and aren't offended as American women tend to be about a lot of things. Don't do it to a young woman running a stand or a woman with a kid in her arms, you might get a dirty look and told "No se" (I don't know). They do know. But there are ways to ask. I forget the names of the actual publications but I will post them when I am there and get my hands on some if they are allowed to publish this "forbidden" information again.
I also hope to try some more places, but frankly, I get my needs more than well met at Danny's. Anna was great, don't know if she is still working there. One of her friends was also wonderful and I totally regret only going with her once. But honestly, none of the women there ever gave me a bad time. They were all great, with Anna being exceptional and Wendy as well though I like Anna better since she can give a rather nice massage in addition to great sex and she even hangs out with you afterwards if you want to sit a bit and watch some TV with her and the other gals on the couches downstairs before heading out.
So to those mongers in Mexico the first week of November, post on here! I will likely be in Guadalajara for the first week of November, maybe after dia de los muertos. It all depends on how things go with the first part of my trip. Hopefully all will go well and I can play for a week in Guadalajara. Seven chicas in seven days sounds good to me! And at $350 pesos half-hour it's a bargain, but only one pop. $600 for an hour at Danny's includes two pops. And you can go for 45 minutes. 450 pesos, but only one pop.
Anyway, right across the street from Danny's is a really nice vegetarian restaurant. If you want a great meal, get there for the 2PM-4PM lunch meal (comida corrida). It varies daily but they have some good stuff. If you want other kinds of food, there is a great place about 2 blocks up from Danny's that the girls usually order lunch from. Prices are very reasonable and they will actually deliver to the Estetica if you want to grab a bite to eat after you have grabbed some ass! There is a Santander Bank one block away from Danny's. If you bank with Bank of America and you have your B of A Debit card with you, you can withdraw money from Santander Bank's ATM with NO ATM charges or currency exchange charges. The two banks have had an agreement with eachother for a number of years now and I actually started an account at B of A for my last trip simply because I didn't want to be charged fees all the time. B of A is another story (I quickly closed my account once I got back) but it was very helpful for my trip and my mongering.
About 5 blocks down from that bank is a Soriana store. The entire area was very safe during the day and felt safe to me in the early evening. Late at night, I don't know. The estetica closes at around 9:30PM. There is even a very nice laundry mat with very new equipment about 2 blocks away from Danny's, half a block away from the bank on the same street and side of street as Danny's is.
OK I will update my info on Danny's when I am back down there and visit. I might also go to Mediterraneo now that I have been reading more about it. But it's going to be hard, I'm spoiled with Danny's cleanliness and the fact I know how to catch the buses around there to get back to wherever I am based from. It's kind of fun to hop onto a bus all nice and showered after some great sex with that "permasmile" on your face. You wonder if everyone else who looks at you can tell you just had a great time! Oh how I miss being in Mexico!
Hi. Looking at all the posts it appears only massage parlors are around.
Are there any bars / clubs that working woman hang out that you can bring back to your hotel?
Thanks for any info.
[QUOTE=Dbros9; 1341080]Hi. Looking at all the posts it appears only massage parlors are around.
Are there any bars / clubs that working woman hang out that you can bring back to your hotel?
Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]There's not anything like the Del Rey in San Jose or the old Help in Rio. Guadalajara has a thriving "table dance" scene, with everything from cheap dives to the upscale Men's Club. I've been out of it for a while, but just judging from the number of cars parked outside during the evenings Candy's is popular. Most but not all of the women will have sex with you. The upscale places charge an arm and a leg for sex on site, around 2500 pesos, so I shudder to think what take out costs. Better to line up something after she finishes work or for the next day if you want to go to your hotel. Also, some hotels in Guadalajara are going to give you problems if you walk in at 3:00 AM with a woman that looks like a hooker.
If your standards are lower, try some of the dives. There are several clubs on the road between the airport and downtown that don't cost an arm and a leg, as well as others spotted around town.
I'm down here for the 3rd time. Love it. And YES, Mojado . I'll be here the 1st week of Nov. I noticed some new SWs and as for Esteticas I've only tried the famous one in el centro. I also have noticed an up in vagrants, cops and arrests than usual. I've also noticed the girls are more business like than they were the last couple of times I was down here (shit, maybe it's me and by now they've all seen me before.). But it seems a little more biz like (like it is in the DF) than I remember. I'd love to try some of the other Esteticas, but I don't spend $ on cabs too often. So anything under a 30 to 40 minute walk is somehow a deterrent (it shouldn't be, I know). I dig the SW scene during the day, they get kinda nasty at night. Mongering during the day is crazy fun anyway.
[QUOTE=RedNose1; 1297650]So I had a break from my work week today and decided to wander back to the Mediterraneo. It is a Tuesday and mid-day. Took a short cab ride from one end of Ninos Heroes to the other for 70 pesos. Opened the door and was greated by "Mona" we worked out the $ and found a quiet room to the back. After my shower she started with a massage on my back then flipping me over and a breast massage on the front. I would estimate a 34C with big brown nips, evidence of a C section. She wrapped me and greased things up and quickly mounted me in an extreem reverse cow-girl. This of course led to about 4 or 5 other positions ending with mish. The surprize here was after I finished, she kept me in and moving until she finished. Very Special. We cleaned up with a shower and then got dressed.
Did you know there is a Walmart on the corner?
So after killing an hour at wally world, I wandered back to Mediterraneo and grew the balls to go back in. Walking past Mona I discovered Marlena. I am estimating 32A on top with no evidence of kids. Large areola and flesh colored nips. Trimmed close but not shaved. No need for a massage this go around. She walked up to me after my shower and we started rubbing each other like old friends, this led to her biting my nipples and anything else she could get between those pearly whites. This time it started with her on top, then me on top, doggy and finished with a reverse mish which to me is the hottest because you enjoy ass as well as vagina. We cleaned up in the shower and then I made sure to hit the cab stand and get out of dodge. I have to be on my feet the next two days.
Both even allowed a no-face photograph.
Enjoy and be safe![/QUOTE]I am SO glad I'm not the only one who would hit it twice. Sometimes I feel like the girls are thinking "Holy Shit, YOU AGAIN?" . Hopefully all in my head.
[QUOTE=WorldWideScout;1342897]I'm down here for the 3rd time. Love it. And YES, Mojado . I'll be here the 1st week of Nov. I noticed some new SWs and as for Esteticas I've only tried the famous one in el centro. I also have noticed an up in vagrants, cops and arrests than usual. I've also noticed the girls are more business like than they were the last couple of times I was down here (shit, maybe it's me and by now they've all seen me before.). But it seems a little more biz like (like it is in the DF) than I remember. I'd love to try some of the other Esteticas, but I don't spend $ on cabs too often. So anything under a 30 to 40 minute walk is somehow a deterrent (it shouldn't be, I know). I dig the SW scene during the day, they get kinda nasty at night. Mongering during the day is crazy fun anyway.[/QUOTE]Hey there Worldwidescout! Glad you are back in Mexico! I am in Mexico now too and have just gone by Danny's today (well, Oct 29th). They have some new gals, and three have left (Wendy and Erika are gone and another that didn't go into work that often but was awesome when she did!). I am eager to try Abril (April in Spanish) who is very petite and slim and has really pretty eyes and long, dark hair. I spoke with her a bit as I arrived too late to get in on any action. I will go again later in the week. Abril works Mon-Saturday.
Here's the rundown on names I got from Danny the owner:
Jimena (I met her today, very nice front and back, she's a "Brick House" but in all the good ways you want it in a woman!)
Venus (New, only has been on the job 8 days! She is small on top but is a good weight and her legs looked like they had good muscle tone. I have to check that out!)
Melissa (didn't met her yet, she works earlier in the day)
Michelle (she's nice, been with her before, she was a little heavier but Danny says she is slimming down but that doesn't stop the sex from being great!)
Crystal (Amazing gal, I am soooo looking forward to seeing her again, she is about 24 years old, very sensual! She is also very funny if you speak Spanish)
Ana (*My favorite. I'm glad she's still working here! Definitely going to get some 1-1 time with her! She's dark skinned, very nice rear end and she likes scary movies!)
Donna (didn't meet her yet, she also works earlier in the day)
Jessy (She's a sweetheart, but she is on the heavier side so if that's a turn off to some of you it might be an issue. But wow, I love melting in her arms. And thighs!)
Karina (*My 2nd Favorite. She is friends with Ana, they both started at the same time. Karina is very tall for a Mexican gal and nicely built!)
Paty (She is sort of new, she handles the cleaning and helps the owner with washing and making sure the rooms are fully stocked and that there are plenty of condoms, soda in the fridge and Toilet paper in the restrooms. PLUS. She also is available on certain days! I am definitely going to try her out too! She wasn't all dressed up when I met her today but she was very friendly and when I could get her to smile I could see she has a really raunchy side to her! I like that! Hopefully I can get that to "come out".
Jovanna (didn't meet her yet, she comes in to work on some days, not everyday. She seems to be a popular gal when she is there though from what the other women said)
Danny's is on 1561 Avenida de la Paz between Belgica and Enrique Diaz de Leon Sur (this is a very well known street). I will report back soon with the bus numbers that run around these streets. It's really not that hard to use the bus system and it's only 6 pesos a ride. The esteticas all close early so you can actually get there an hour before closing and get a full hour session in. They will generally stay open long enough for you to get your hour in if you arrive 1/2 hr before closing (better you call them to let them know you are "coming" if you are running late and closing is 1/2 hr away. Buses stop running around 10PM, so the good news is you will have a way to get back without taking a taxi and it's pretty safe because people are out and about going home. Just follow the normal precautions you do whenever you travel (money belt, no flashy watch / jewelry, keep any belongings very close, etc. Just common sense). Also, as you get on the bus, tell the driver what cross street you want to get off at if you are unfamiliar with using the bus and stay close to the bus driver. You might want to remind the driver at some point along the trip about getting off at that street, that way they will tell you when they arrive to it and generally they are good about that with foreigners. The vast majority of Mexicans use their bus transportation to move around. If you really want to get to know the bus routes, there is a bus route guidebook that's about 1 inch thick (2. 5cm) for sale at many newspaper stands for about $100 to $130 pesos. You'll find every bus route there is there. I find using google maps together with one of those guidebooks is a good way to plan for an inexpensive adventure into living life the Mexican way. But it's not for all of us Mongers, some of us don't have the time to ride on a bus and others prefer a taxi or something within easy walking distance. I just wanted everyone to know that there is a really nice bus guidebook out there for GDL and I didn't know about it for 5 years until someone showed it to me. It's saved me a lot of Pesos. Which in turn I used to do more Mongering with.
Hours are 10AM to 8:30PM on Monday through Saturday. Sunday they are open from 10:30AM to 4PM. I don't know how many of these ladies speak English. Wendy and Erika did, but they left (Erika might come back, she left 15 days ago I was told) and her English was pretty OK but her vocabulary was a little limited.
Prices are: 30mins for $350 pesos. 1 pop. 45 mins for $450 pesos. 1 pop. 1 HOUR for $600 pesos. 2 pops. Or you could have 2 women for 30 minutes for $600 pesos, I think it's 1 pop. Not sure. Never done that, I'd rather have a whole hour and 2 pops with one chica though it might be fun to just horse around like that with two lovely ladies and not worry about the pops. And they have an "early riser" special. The "Mananero" from 10AM to 2PM for $250 you get 15 minutes and 1 pop. I dunno. I like more time. You *MIGHT* be able to coax 20 minutes but I would not count on it.
You can take a nice hot shower before getting it on with the chica and generally they will not rush you. They will not charge you while you shower, but I've been there when the demand is high and like anywhere else they need those rooms to do what they were designed for hehehe! I'm slow in the shower because hot water showers are usually a luxury for me. I don't stay in high end hotels. I usually hang out with friends I know, like right now I am here for a week at a friend's apartment and thankfully they live one 15-minute bus ride away from Danny's! Many Mexicans do not have hot water. But the water towers on the roofs of the buildings here are generally plastic and black in color so they absorb a lot of heat from the sun all day and that really helps. In fact I almost scalded myself one time not realizing how hot those things can get and I just used the hot water tap. Nearly burned the family jewels!
Oh. One more good thing! There is another restaurant that just opened across the street from Danny's. They are open for breakfast, lunch and dinner, very bright and welcoming. I will hopefully have breakfast there tomorrow or the next day. One of the gals had pancakes there and she said they were very delicious. A new business wants to make a great impression and I really think their food is going to be really good. I will report back on it as well as the price. The vegetarian place is right next to it. I ate a late dinner at a more traditional Mexican food place on the same side of the street as Danny's at the corner of Belgica and Avenida de la Paz, about 4 doors down from Danny's and just across the street at that corner. The food (I had Enchiladas with everything on it, order of 3 for $30 pesos. Chicken or beef, I had chicken. And one Sope at $10 pesos, but you can get an order of 3 for $27 pesos). It was really good! Filled me up too, I was hungry and got caught in a quick rainstorm as I was leaving because they were closing. That small restaurant closes at 9:30PM. A lot of things dovetail really well with the timing that these esteticas close at if you are able to go during the day or early to mid evening. If you are only able to monger very late at night or well into the early morning, you might have to go with the more expensive options of Table Dance places or "call girls" from phone services that are "sights unseen" (but I have had some good luck with them in the past).
One final thing. And it's related to what you are observing WorldwideScout. Back in April the city or maybe state government stopped all of the esteticas and private parties from being allowed to post ads in the local tabloid type newspapers. They simply forbid it and it affected all the esteticas. I asked Danny if they've allowed them to buy advertising yet and she said no, but that one paper does flaunt the system and allows her to post but it's so expensive that she doesn't go weekly on it. The guess was with Mexico's elections happening in July, they made it a "moral crusade" to try to win votes and such to forbid the "sex trade" from being able to publicize freely in the local newspapers and tabloids. Well, they have not let up yet and I hope they will because this is hurting business for all of the esteticas and its making it that much more difficult for Mongers to find new places and get accurate information. This just makes posting on here that much more important.
So I encourage all of us to post even if you don't have much to say (I say a lot. Can't help myself, I just love these women and being here in Mexico and cannot help it!). So post about your experiences at these places, the positive the negative and the interesting side stuff. It helps us all in finding these hidden gems and staying safe and enjoying life! It does matter to post, it makes a difference. Pictures are great too, I haven't had that much luck getting pics of the gals. They get shy about that and they also worry that they may be seen by their families if it gets onto the internet, and it's true. After a pic is posted online it can travel everywhere. I'm going to try to get "creative" this trip since Halloween is about to happen and I have a "mask" that I might be able to get some of the women to wear. Then I can get a nice boobie shot or body shot and hopefully post it on here with the name and the stats.
Ok wrote a book here but hey, I am glad I have a strong internet connection! And I am so looking forward to hanging out with the chicas again!
I will be in the GDL area for a few days but I am going to be a bit busy. Still, I'll be checking here. If there is a specific day you or anyone else wants to go to Danny's try to PM me or write on here and I can try to be there so I can translate for you if you need it. Your mileage may vary of course and women I find attractive and sensual may not be your cup of tea but you will find Danny's to be a very clean, newer estetica and hopefully at least one of the gals will catch your eye! I'm fluent in Spanish, born in the USA and look very "gringo". I will probably be here in GDL until Monday or Tuesday next week 5th or 6th of November. Good luck Mongering everyone!
El Mojado
brilliant post, mojado! and ingenious suggestions. i totally forgot about the bus! i've taken it before, hardest part is figuring out the route burep001uruta. com hopefullly still works. that's too bad about the "moral crusade". i hope they don't ruin mexico. maybe i'll see you up there!
[quote=el mojado; 1342998]hey there worldwidescout! glad you are back in mexico! i am in mexico now too and have just gone by danny's today (well, oct 29th). they have some new gals, and three have left (wendy and erika are gone and another that didn't go into work that often but was awesome when she did!). i am eager to try abril (april in spanish) who is very petite and slim and has really pretty eyes and long, dark hair. i spoke with her a bit as i arrived too late to get in on any action. i will go again later in the week. abril works mon-saturday.
here's the rundown on names i got from danny the owner:
jimena (i met her today, very nice front and back, she's a "brick house" but in all the good ways you want it in a woman!)
venus (new, only has been on the job 8 days! she is small on top but is a good weight and her legs looked like they had good muscle tone. i have to check that out!)
melissa (didn't met her yet, she works earlier in the day)
michelle (she's nice, been with her before, she was a little heavier but danny says she is slimming down but that doesn't stop the sex from being great!)
crystal (amazing gal, i am soooo looking forward to seeing her again, she is about 24 years old, very sensual! she is also very funny if you speak spanish)
ana (*my favorite. i'm glad she's still working here! definitely going to get some 1-1 time with her! she's dark skinned, very nice rear end and she likes scary movies!)
donna (didn't meet her yet, she also works earlier in the day)
jessy (she's a sweetheart, but she is on the heavier side so if that's a turn off to some of you it might be an issue. but wow, i love melting in her arms. and thighs!)
karina (*my 2nd favorite. she is friends with ana, they both started at the same time. karina is very tall for a mexican gal and nicely built!)
paty (she is sort of new, she handles the cleaning and helps the owner with washing and making sure the rooms are fully stocked and that there are plenty of condoms, soda in the fridge and toilet paper in the restrooms. plus. she also is available on certain days! i am definitely going to try her out too! she wasn't all dressed up when i met her today but she was very friendly and when i could get her to smile i could see she has a really raunchy side to her! i like that! hopefully i can get that to "come out".
jovanna (didn't meet her yet, she comes in to work on some days, not everyday. she seems to be a popular gal when she is there though from what the other women said)
danny's is on 1561 avenida de la paz between belgica and enrique diaz de leon sur (this is a very well known street). i will report back soon with the bus numbers that run around these streets. it's really not that hard to use the bus system and it's only 6 pesos a ride. the esteticas all close early so you can actually get there an hour before closing and get a full hour session in. they will generally stay open long enough for you to get your hour in if you arrive 1/2 hr before closing (better you call them to let them know you are "coming" if you are running late and closing is 1/2 hr away. buses stop running around 10pm, so the good news is you will have a way to get back without taking a taxi and it's pretty safe because people are out and about going home. just follow the normal precautions you do whenever you travel (money belt, no flashy watch / jewelry, keep any belongings very close, etc. just common sense). also, as you get on the bus, tell the driver what cross street you want to get off at if you are unfamiliar with using the bus and stay close to the bus driver. you might want to remind the driver at some point along the trip about getting off at that street, that way they will tell you when they arrive to it and generally they are good about that with foreigners. the vast majority of mexicans use their bus transportation to move around. if you really want to get to know the bus routes, there is a bus route guidebook that's about 1 inch thick (2. 5cm) for sale at many newspaper stands for about $100 to $130 pesos. you'll find every bus route there is there. i find using google maps together with one of those guidebooks is a good way to plan for an inexpensive adventure into living life the mexican way. but it's not for all of us mongers, some of us don't have the time to ride on a bus and others prefer a taxi or something within easy walking distance. i just wanted everyone to know that there is a really nice bus guidebook out there for gdl and i didn't know about it for 5 years until someone showed it to me. it's saved me a lot of pesos. which in turn i used to do more mongering with.
hours are 10am to 8:30pm on monday through saturday. sunday they are open from 10:30am to 4pm. i don't know how many of these ladies speak english. wendy and erika did, but they left (erika might come back, she left 15 days ago i was told) and her english was pretty ok but her vocabulary was a little limited.
prices are: 30mins for $350 pesos. 1 pop. 45 mins for $450 pesos. 1 pop. 1 hour for $600 pesos. 2 pops. or you could have 2 women for 30 minutes for $600 pesos, i think it's 1 pop. not sure. never done that, i'd rather have a whole hour and 2 pops with one chica though it might be fun to just horse around like that with two lovely ladies and not worry about the pops. and they have an "early riser" special. the "mananero" from 10am to 2pm for $250 you get 15 minutes and 1 pop. i dunno. i like more time. you *might* be able to coax 20 minutes but i would not count on it.
you can take a nice hot shower before getting it on with the chica and generally they will not rush you. they will not charge you while you shower, but i've been there when the demand is high and like anywhere else they need those rooms to do what they were designed for hehehe! i'm slow in the shower because hot water showers are usually a luxury for me. i don't stay in high end hotels. i usually hang out with friends i know, like right now i am here for a week at a friend's apartment and thankfully they live one 15-minute bus ride away from danny's! many mexicans do not have hot water. but the water towers on the roofs of the buildings here are generally plastic and black in color so they absorb a lot of heat from the sun all day and that really helps. in fact i almost scalded myself one time not realizing how hot those things can get and i just used the hot water tap. nearly burned the family jewels!
oh. one more good thing! there is another restaurant that just opened across the street from danny's. they are open for breakfast, lunch and dinner, very bright and welcoming. i will hopefully have breakfast there tomorrow or the next day. one of the gals had pancakes there and she said they were very delicious. a new business wants to make a great impression and i really think their food is going to be really good. i will report back on it as well as the price. the vegetarian place is right next to it. i ate a late dinner at a more traditional mexican food place on the same side of the street as danny's at the corner of belgica and avenida de la paz, about 4 doors down from danny's and just across the street at that corner. the food (i had enchiladas with everything on it, order of 3 for $30 pesos. chicken or beef, i had chicken. and one sope at $10 pesos, but you can get an order of 3 for $27 pesos). it was really good! filled me up too, i was hungry and got caught in a quick rainstorm as i was leaving because they were closing. that small restaurant closes at 9:30pm. a lot of things dovetail really well with the timing that these esteticas close at if you are able to go during the day or early to mid evening. if you are only able to monger very late at night or well into the early morning, you might have to go with the more expensive options of table dance places or "call girls" from phone services that are "sights unseen" (but i have had some good luck with them in the past).
one final thing. and it's related to what you are observing worldwidescout. back in april the city or maybe state government stopped all of the esteticas and private parties from being allowed to post ads in the local tabloid type newspapers. they simply forbid it and it affected all the esteticas. i asked danny if they've allowed them to buy advertising yet and she said no, but that one paper does flaunt the system and allows her to post but it's so expensive that she doesn't go weekly on it. the guess was with mexico's elections happening in july, they made it a "moral crusade" to try to win votes and such to forbid the "sex trade" from being able to publicize freely in the local newspapers and tabloids. well, they have not let up yet and i hope they will because this is hurting business for all of the esteticas and its making it that much more difficult for mongers to find new places and get accurate information. this just makes posting on here that much more important.
so i encourage all of us to post even if you don't have much to say (i say a lot. can't help myself, i just love these women and being here in mexico and cannot help it!). so post about your experiences at these places, the positive the negative and the interesting side stuff. it helps us all in finding these hidden gems and staying safe and enjoying life! it does matter to post, it makes a difference. pictures are great too, i haven't had that much luck getting pics of the gals. they get shy about that and they also worry that they may be seen by their families if it gets onto the internet, and it's true. after a pic is posted online it can travel everywhere. i'm going to try to get "creative" this trip since halloween is about to happen and i have a "mask" that i might be able to get some of the women to wear. then i can get a nice boobie shot or body shot and hopefully post it on here with the name and the stats.
ok wrote a book here but hey, i am glad i have a strong internet connection! and i am so looking forward to hanging out with the chicas again!
i will be in the gdl area for a few days but i am going to be a bit busy. still, i'll be checking here. if there is a specific day you or anyone else wants to go to danny's try to pm me or write on here and i can try to be there so i can translate for you if you need it. your mileage may vary of course and women i find attractive and sensual may not be your cup of tea but you will find danny's to be a very clean, newer estetica and hopefully at least one of the gals will catch your eye! i'm fluent in spanish, born in the usa and look very "gringo". i will probably be here in gdl until monday or tuesday next week 5th or 6th of november. good luck mongering everyone!
el mojado[/quote]
[quote=tiny 12; 1330607]i've been to jetset several times, but not in the last few years. in terms of looks the women were so-so, and the facility was somewhat run down. it was the standard estetica experience. they'd bring by the women, and there were only a few. you make your selection, spend some time in the sauna or shower or whatever if you want, then massage and sex.
if you're looking for bbbj and cim you'll stand a better chance there than, say, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. it's going to really be hit and miss though. i'd guess the majority won't do it. if your spanish is bad you could write this down on a piece of paper and give it to the mamasan / papasan.
quiero una mamada sin condon, why dejar mi leche dentro de la boca. puedes elegir a una mujer para mi?[/quote]i've been to jet set quite a bit, and although it's more expensive than a lot of the others, it's the one place i can say i've never left disappointed. my regulars were galilea and katty. they were probably the most mature there, but both very good and since i'm a senior citizen now, i like them like that. nice figures on both, and both gave bbbj and after i asked each one once for cim, i never had to ask again. (i always shower there at the start of the session). part of katty's standard routine was a bit pf prostate massage and a little rimming.
the bad news is that gali left 2 years ago, and katty about 1 year ago, and i haven't been back since. but. i plan to do so this month, and see if there is anyone there now who might give the same kinds of service.
Mojado. You called it! This is my new favorite place I think! BTW, buses 214 and 258 both drop you off almost right there. I walked though because out of luck I had a meeting right down the street from there today. It's really close to the university, great location. PLUS there's a Cinepolis next door. A 3D movie to help practice my spanish comprehension right after I get laid is a favorite tradition of mine.
The place is easy to find. LOL, you can't miss it. It may as well say "Come here for Sex" in giant gold letters on the front. I walked in and was aked to goo straight upstairs. I do like the girl selection better at Mediteraneo, but Mojado is right. The performance here is fantastic! I mean pornstar worthy. It even started out with a REAL massage, not some half-assed massage, I actually got a REAL work-my-muscles massage. And yes, the shower is pretty great. Good force, great temp control. I'm not a big fan of shared showers because I like to keep an eye on my belongings at all time (of course, I also always bring Exactly only what I need to spend at the Estetica. So if a girl does get light in the fingers, she'll come up empty handed). Not an actual problem though, I just get paranoid. I've mongered in countries where a guy stands next to you with a machine gun in an alleyway while you're doing your business (and you tip him for it LOL). Anyway, back to the report.
I picked Ana because she looked me in the eye and smiled. Plus she's really pretty. Thicker than I'm used to . But WOW what a performance. She was really fun and personable. Seriously, my dick was actually SORE from the workout. Anyway I broke my rule by letting her know I was a newbie. Usually I always pretend like I know exactly what's going on, but she flat out asked and caught me off guard. My story was that I'm a regular at Mediteraneo and my friend told me that this place was new and is better. SCORE! She eexplained to me the prices and was on the up and up. I got a 1/2 hr. The CBJ was fierce! And get this. She actually managed to get me to cum in doggie! Usually I have to flip them over into miss. In order to finish (and sometimes even have to think of something really kinky). But, Ana in doggie was quite impressive! We even went over the 30 minutes and she didn't say a word, no rush. To the point that even afterwords we talked for a while about all sorts of things. LOL, even after we re-showered and got dressed she was asking me about the girls' breasts at Meditaraneo and how they compared to hers. So I got to fondle her for an additional 5-10 minutes.
I haven't had afterglow in a long time, but I was spent. It was so good that instead of hearing the usual Banda polka musica playing everywhere I actually swear I heard Valio La Pena (marc anthony tropical music) blaring out of a car as I was walking away.
I hope other esteticas and SW's figure out that personality and service are hugely important if they want to thrive. (BTW, if you're into SW's let me know I think I've seen them all by now on the Calzada. There is one that (I don't know her name) but moved here from Tijuana over Christmas in the alley behind the Chinese restaurant that pretty much let's you do whatever you want to her for as long as you want for $250 pesos). Plus that Chinese place makes for a great post-coitus meal, it's a ridiculously great bargain and a huge sized meal (can feed 3 people stuffed) for 30 pesos.
hey i am glad you had a blast with ana! (in more ways than one too! hehe) i went to danny's estetica later in the day at around 4pm and also spent some time with ana and yes, she is all you said and more! i went for an hour for two pops. i am going to describe the "action" here, though i did other things before leading to this (ordered food to the estetica for myself and ate it too, rather quickly, before the session. might be a little confusing to read but i'm tired it's 2am. and want to get the report in.
we started out with her stroking me nicely, then a bit of a cbj which really got me going. then i asked for her to ride me cowgirl style and that was great and we did that a while. i had missed her a lot actually and i asked her to lie on me and let me hold her and keep grinding into her and she relaxed her arms and i felt those beautiful breasts press into my chest and heard her sighs as i continued compressing into her. (dang getting me all hot and bothered writing it about!) after a while of that, and holding her close and grabbing her buns while grinding into her (she really liked that from the sounds she was making!) i asked to switch to doggie style. and yes, the dog did it! it didn't take long looking at her beautiful back and cupping her breasts in my hands and holding her shoulders for me to get to that point. what a wonderful release it always is with her.
we talked and cuddled for a while, catching up on the things we have both done these last months. she suggested she give me a massage and i accepted. i normally don't get them but as you said, she's really good! cracked my back once too, that felt great! i haven't been sleeping well on this air mattress my friend has in the spare room but hey, that's ok, ana to the rescue! after a bit more of massage and talk, we got back down to the cbj business! she really woke up the "difunto" (literally the "dead" referring to my penis after the first long round with ana!) yup! she can suck-start an 8 cylinder engine alright!
i just went with mish and "modified" mish with her tucking her legs over mine, that really works great flexing both our leg muscles so we compress even more down there. and she's got some awesome nipples. just love how the tips of her breasts look like brown mini-marshmallows. when they get perky they get like that! i'm glad for all of us mongers that she is still at danny's! once i'd finished, we kissed a bit (no tongue. i just ate and had no toothbrush with me.) we cuddled and carefully withdrew the soldier with the condom "hat" intact and hit the showers. after that we went back to the room, she got dressed and before she walked out the door she blew me a kiss and smiled. dang how i miss mexico!
well, i had no luck today with trying to get pics of the girls, but i brought a green mask one of them liked and she put it on. a mardi gras style mask. she might let me take her pic if i go with her later in the week. her name is venus. i also met donna today and she is quite pretty. very beautiful face and good body. she had her laptop on the table in the waiting area and was watching a movie but was very friendly and enticing. but once i saw ana i was set to go with her before she had to leave for home. she tends to arrive for the start of the day at 10am and leave around 4 or 5 depending on things. johanna was there today and she was looking really hot in her skimpy clothes too. she does not have a very pretty face and she will be the first to say so, but she seems very spunky and for whatever reason, she was very popular with the customers. i didn't go upstairs right away with ana because the girls were ordering food and asked if i also wanted to order from the new place across the street. so i asked ana if she had to go right away and she told me she would wait for me to order and said it would take them time to make it anyway so. she was not in a hurry and no pressure. she's such a sweetie!
karen and jessy should be there tomorrow and i am hoping to get together with one of them although the new girls / ones i have not met before are sure enticing. abril and donna seem to the top looking chicas (8's easy, maybe more depending on the body type you like, they are both slim, abril is short, donna's taller and was wearing a very sexy bra if you could call it a bra! . abril and i had a nice conversation the day before but she was on her way out and i had arrived too late to monger. i wish i was staying long enough to have a go with each one!
ok. so, i ordered some food from that new place. the order of 3 burritos, egg, cheese and ham that is drizzled with refried black beans and a light cream sauce. cost was $50 pesos, the food was excellent! (that is from across the street, not the veggie place, of course). also, very nice real solid flatware / silverware. not that cheap stuff that feels like it will fold in half as you cut into anything. it was on a real solid, ceramic / china plate, not a plastic plate, and it was sent over to the estetica on a round plastic serving tray that had some interesting rubberized surface so the plate did not slide around. this was pretty cool! i may ask where they got those because i'd like to buy one and take it back with me to the us! i will go there again tomorrow! they have a special on the breakfast / lunch buffet. 50 pesos and it seems like it is all you can eat. i will report back on that. it may not be all you can eat because i didn't see it on the menu or description of the special. but i did peek into the place before going to dannys and they had something set up in a buffet style and the normal price for the buffet is $60 pesos.
also one more thing that is very important to all mongers in mexico. this situation resulted in me getting to danny's later than i had planned because i had a heck of a time changing dollars for pesos! i went to bancomer close to where i am staying and waiting in line and once i got to a teller i presented my passport and said i wanted to change some dollars. she just looked at me strangely and then said that the bank could not accept usa dollars by order of the mexican federal government. she apologized quickly. must have seen my face turn white. and suggested that there are rumors that one bank is changing dollars (banco azteca. not quite a typical bank) , but that there was no way they could accept them.
well, this was very shocking as i arrived on this trip to puerto vallarta and i had no trouble changing dollars in mexican banks over there. of course, pv is a total tourist area and guadalajara is the capital of jalisco. touristy but not the same type of tourists. so i wandered around a bit feeling stunned and wondering how i was going to get money to go mongering and have enough to eat at that new place. so, i bought the green mask for 30 pesos at a shop selling lots of halloween costumes and found a shop that sells phones and will custom make a phone cord for you (4 pesos for each end clip and 2 pesos a meter of cord). i had the guy at the counter make me a 4 meter phone cord and total cost was 16 pesos. amazingly, two important tasks on my to-do list were done but the all important "money" one was not.
i went to a second bank and got the same response (bigger one, hsbc). i didn't bring any us atm cards this trip since it's so short. so i was quietly sweating bullets. but the woman at that bank suggested i go to a regular money changer (casa de cambio). i found out from the teller where a casa de cambio was. lucky for me it was only 2 more blocks away. so i went there and changed the money i wanted to change and got $12. 45 pesos to the dollar. it was at $13. 05 on the web so thankfully it wasn't too bad a loss.
so. word to the wise monger. use bank of america atm cards at santander bank. i don't have my b of a account now but i did when i was here in mexico for a few months. sure made things much easier. i posted previously how santander bank has a deal with bank of america where they charge no atm transaction fees and no dollar to peso conversion fees. it is just as though you had made a normal withdrawal from a genuine b of a teller machine.
also, find out where the casas de cambio are near you. money changers are much better than your hotel concierge for exchanging dollars in every situation i have seen. banks used to be the best but apparently not here in guadalajara or most of mexico except for places like puerto vallarta and cancun it seems. i can only guess that the cartels have begun aggressively counterfeiting dollars. nothing will put a kink in your dick faster than not being able to get mongering money! but thankfully the day was saved and ana was busy today! .
ok mongers! if any of you will be here friday i am going to get a bunch of tamales from a little abarotes / general store that cooks them at home and brings them to sell at 7pm on fridays. i'm treating all the gals at the estetica that want tamales to some tamales and mongers are invited too! i don't know when i'll be back. probably not until next year maybe mid year or so (sadly). the tamales are amazingly good and it was just dumb luck i found them last time i was here. i had gone to danny's for a servicio and had a great one and came out of there with my sexual appetite satisfied but my hunger for some food through the roof! so i wandered around and just happened to walk buy this place on belgica on the other side of the street from danny's, past a type of private school that takes up most of the right side of the block. there was this old man selling tamales out of some thermal coolers and there were lots of people buying. so i got in line and got 2 tamales de raja (green bell pepper with cheese). i was already floating in the clouds from the servicio, now after eating that my ecstacy was complete! they were only 10 pesos each if i remember right. and huge! you can't get a tamale in the usa for less than 1 dollar anymore. the one place i have seen them they want 1. 50 for a tiny one and they're ok but not like these at all!
the little shop is on the left hand side on the next street up. they have really good prices on many things and they even sell some really good cheese cheaply. (i bought a 1/4 kilo for 20 pesos of queso asadero today after leaving danny's). and i asked about the tamales because i remembered them from before.
so i will be there friday unless something changes and i will post here if it does. but all is looking great for that! i think i will definitely go for a servicio well before 7pm to stir up the other appetite for the tamales! sadly, this will be my only chance to get those tamales this trip! hopefully i can pass the info on this food treasure find to other mongers. i will post more detail about the location of the abarotes shop that sells these so others can find it on their own. hopefully i will cut the long letter posts but there's a lot of info i've gathered these last few days. the usd not being accepted at banks was quite a shocker that everyone who read this should be aware of. the more you know the better prepared you will be to monger happily and avoid a dick kinking situation like no access to mongering money.
I went with Jovana yesterday and though she is cute and has very nice. 36C breasts with perky nipples (tan, very nice skin, nice rear too) she is a bit strong in seeking a "tip" (propina). I had to remind her three times to get my change back before we started our session and that's never a good thing. But after that things were great! She's really into getting it doggie style and is quite good at establishing and holding a rhythm!
Her CBJ was OK, not as good as Ana's, but it gets the job done to "wake the dead" (Levantar el muerto) hehe!
She had been out for about 8 days because she was sick and I honestly believe her. She is not a smoker and had a really bad cough at times during our hour of naughty time together. I felt bad for her at times but it seems the workout from sex was helping her stay warm. She said she preferred "estar caliente" (being hot) than sitting in the waiting area trying not to cough. She then admitted that she was a bit low on money because she missed so many days and when I asked if she had been to a doctor, she said she got shots of antibiotics for bronchitis. I'm OK now so I didn't catch anything. Once you are on antibiotics for a couple of days (Especially injections and that's what they tend to always give here in Mexico) you are not very contagious.
Anyway, I can forgive a minor clash over the change thing once and after the super performance I received from Jovana (we must have gone through 5 or 6 positions!) and the nice rub down I received afterwards with a very nice massage (I only was able to do one pop, even though I had gone in for an hour and two pops but hey, Ana really worked me over the day before!). And it took a while for that first pop, which was quite nice! Maybe the coughing distracted me a little at times but overall it was quite nice.
Jovana has a nice attitude, perky breasts and a body I like (tan / dark skin the color of cinnamon, very big, beautiful, expressive eyes, and a nice rear end). We didn't kiss with tongue but I think she would have if she had not been sick. We kissed a lot though, on lips and all over! And wow, she can hug you with her legs! Strong thighs and muscle tone on this one!
So just be aware, she is a tip seeker but make her work for it! She's more than capable, trust me and I did give her a nice tip. She also spent more time with me than the hour and made it a very thorough massage since I only had one pop with her and because we got into a nice conversation about a lot of things. She used to work at Geisha a while back so some of you may know her from there under the same name. I didn't ask what name she used over there.
She is also very flirtatious and playful (which I like). She kept grabbing my dick and massaging it (and other things) while we were showering before our session. She sure knows how to make hot water even hotter! So YMMV with this one, just be firm on letting her know that the tip depends on the performance and that you will decide how much to tip, but don't do it in a mean way. In her situation on that day, she'd been away from work for a week, so all that lost income leads to people to behave differently than they normally would. Once I reassured her I'd give her a tip if I really liked the service and that I liked what I saw in front of my very much (I looked her over and then caressed her hair when I said this and looked directly into her big beautiful eyes and smiled at her) , she smiled back and relaxed and we had a very nice session! (But Ana is still my fav in my book!).
That might be who I tried today! LOL, I can't remember their names after. Tihis girl was very very very very cute, with dimples. Extremely warm and pretty. Thick body but I go to Dany's for the service. I hit mediteraneo twice this week because there are about 4 girls that are total 9s there. Had a really good time BUT the new price of $590 is OUTRAGEOUS! Other than the mirrors on the celing and the better selection of hotties, there is nothing to command such a high premium. Especially since the girls ARE a little business like. They are hot though, there is this popular new porn movie in the USA called The 8th Day. If you check it oiiut there is this girl at M named "Poppy" I think who has the same body as the girl from that movie. Really fun, but you can't get a GFE at M like you used to even a year ago.
This girl at Dany's today was so great. I've been having trouble since I think I've been overmongering. But she blew me twice (before and the middle) to keep me fuerte. Dany's may have thicker girls but they are really cute and the service is amazing. I really dug this girl. Even out the door she kissed me and grabbed my ass before I hit the street.
OMG, I got to try the 2nd floor since the 1st floor was busy at Dany's. It is private and has a 4 star bathroom, that shower is incredible. I was laughing because two days in a row a girl has told me she digs me because other clients refuse to shower. I was thinking of Mojado today and thought to myself "You girls must LOVE Mojado and me because the showers here are part of the fun!" I left my session relaxed as can be. It's such a tranquil neighborhood, much more upscale if you walk around than el Centro.
[QUOTE=El Mojado; 1344046]I went with Jovana yesterday and though she is cute and has very nice. 36C breasts with perky nipples (tan, very nice skin, nice rear too) she is a bit strong in seeking a "tip" (propina). I had to remind her three times to get my change back before we started our session and that's never a good thing. But after that things were great! She's really into getting it doggie style and is quite good at establishing and holding a rhythm!
Her CBJ was OK, not as good as Ana's, but it gets the job done to "wake the dead" (Levantar el muerto) hehe!
She had been out for about 8 days because she was sick and I honestly believe her. She is not a smoker and had a really bad cough at times during our hour of naughty time together. I felt bad for her at times but it seems the workout from sex was helping her stay warm. She said she preferred "estar caliente" (being hot) than sitting in the waiting area trying not to cough. She then admitted that she was a bit low on money because she missed so many days and when I asked if she had been to a doctor, she said she got shots of antibiotics for bronchitis. I'm OK now so I didn't catch anything. Once you are on antibiotics for a couple of days (Especially injections and that's what they tend to always give here in Mexico) you are not very contagious.
Anyway, I can forgive a minor clash over the change thing once and after the super performance I received from Jovana (we must have gone through 5 or 6 positions!) and the nice rub down I received afterwards with a very nice massage (I only was able to do one pop, even though I had gone in for an hour and two pops but hey, Ana really worked me over the day before!). And it took a while for that first pop, which was quite nice! Maybe the coughing distracted me a little at times but overall it was quite nice.
Jovana has a nice attitude, perky breasts and a body I like (tan / dark skin the color of cinnamon, very big, beautiful, expressive eyes, and a nice rear end). We didn't kiss with tongue but I think she would have if she had not been sick. We kissed a lot though, on lips and all over! And wow, she can hug you with her legs! Strong thighs and muscle tone on this one!
So just be aware, she is a tip seeker but make her work for it! She's more than capable, trust me and I did give her a nice tip. She also spent more time with me than the hour and made it a very thorough massage since I only had one pop with her and because we got into a nice conversation about a lot of things. She used to work at Geisha a while back so some of you may know her from there under the same name. I didn't ask what name she used over there.
She is also very flirtatious and playful (which I like). She kept grabbing my dick and massaging it (and other things) while we were showering before our session. She sure knows how to make hot water even hotter! So YMMV with this one, just be firm on letting her know that the tip depends on the performance and that you will decide how much to tip, but don't do it in a mean way. In her situation on that day, she'd been away from work for a week, so all that lost income leads to people to behave differently than they normally would. Once I reassured her I'd give her a tip if I really liked the service and that I liked what I saw in front of my very much (I looked her over and then caressed her hair when I said this and looked directly into her big beautiful eyes and smiled at her) , she smiled back and relaxed and we had a very nice session! (But Ana is still my fav in my book!).[/QUOTE]
hey there! i am working on my "7 girls in 7 days" goal and so far i have hit 4 of them and have to venture back to danny's today for #5! and is that $590 the price of 1/2hr? for that price you get 1 hr at danny's and two nice runs on those hot showers! seriously i usually stay at places (inexpensive or with friends) that do not have hot water and it is such a luxury!
ok so i was with jimena two days ago and with jessy yesterday. first jimena. she is built like a "brick house". a bit full figured but still acrobatic and quite the woman! nothing cold about her, she's warm all over and we had an intense session. she also likes it doggie style, but it was the getting her doggie style and then down onto the "plancha" all the way that got my rocks off the first time. since i was with her for an hour, we did it a second time after some "pillow talk" and snuggling under the cieling fan. that was with mish. jimena is very cute, nice face and though she admits her boobs are not 100% natural (she has implants) jimena is quite natural in the way she treats you and makes love to you. this is not just mindless gyrating hips, this is lovemaking. she is also one of very few who is internet savvy and she has a facebook page but is very selective of who she shares that info with. i am going to suggest she makes a strictly "work related" facebook page so those of who can keep in touch with her via the internet don't get her into any trouble with her regular page! she says she is very careful about that but it's better to be extra careful! she's had me sit with her a few times before i "did the deed" with her at the estetica and has been very friendly and talkative. she has been working there for almost 2 months now.
next was jessy yesterday. she is much more full-figured than jimena. i'd say jessy is probably the larger of the gals that work at danny's, and may not be everyone's ideal woman. however, you are losing out if you dismiss her because of that. she has some really nice breasts that are so easy to suck on and grab. dang, it's like a second childhood without having to deal with depends [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] lol! she also does the cowgirl position quite well! lots of rear to grab too! she also likes doggie style (seems like most of the women at danny's have a "doggie style" preference. at least the four i have nailed this trip). we shifted over to doggie style and i was a little worried when, thrust after thrust, the "plancha" or massage / sex table would creak a bit due to our weights. i'm not in the best of shape myself, which i owe to eating too many delicious tacos, burritos and quesadillas this trip and the previous trip plus at home in the usa but the planchas are well built, like jessy, and after my initial worries passed i concentrated on the magic moments!
jessy had a genuine orgasm. no doubt about it, and it was really nice. after she had hers, i asked her to turn over and we finished in mish with some modifications, and i was able to get mine but only one time. i've definitely been overmongering this trip, but i have to make up for all the dry spell of the "desert" that is the usa where the l. e. can put you away and take your vehicle from you and hold it in impound for 30 days if you are caught soliciting. i'd rather take that money that'd go for the tow, impound charge and offense and make a trip to mexico!
and as planned i bought tamales for everyone working and extras for mongers "coming" to danny's friday at 7pm! no one from the website was there, unfortunately, but there was a mad rush of about 4 local mongers into danny's so the tamales didn't go to waste. plus i had one extra for the friend i am staying with who has no idea what i'm doing with some of my time in guadalajara.
ok location of the really nice corner store (tienda de abarotes) : great prices on many items and they sell cheese and some cold cuts so cheap alternative if you just want some basic food and they always seem to have ripe avocados and ripe bananas. location: calle belgica and calle libertad, right on that corner, you cannot miss it. tamales are sold fridays, get there by 6:45pm, they were early this time and i got lucky i went a little before 7pm. they were running low of red tamales (beef with red sauce). sometimes they use pork, you will have to ask. they had tamales rojos (red sauce) , tamales verdes (green sauce) , tamales de raja (spicy green bell pepper with cheese) , tamales con champinones (mushroom and cheese) , and two types of sweet tamales. sweet tamales: zarzamora (blueberry. delicious and looked purple!) and pasas (raisin with spice). each tamale was pretty big and only cost $10 pesos. i bought a dozen and had one left over. this store is just about 1 block away from danny's estetica.
well, i've got to get into gear if i'm going to go 5 chicas in 5 days. i'm thinking i might get venus today. or abril. though i am not really that into tiny, petite women. karina has not shown up these last days since the first day i stopped in. she's tall and sexy and last time we had a great session back in late april this year on my previous trip! i really regretted only going with her one time. i'll call them and find out if she's there and if so have her wait for me if she can.
great post, mojado! too bad i missed friday night tamales. i might head over tomorrow during the day. yeah mediteraneo is so pricey. i'm not sure there is a time limit for the $590, i've only been "stopped" and asked to leave once. but i had easily went to 2hrs with the girl so getting kicked out was inevitable. regardless, $590 is so expensive.
5 girls in 5 days. you can do it! hope to see you down there one of these days, mojado. i'll totally pep talk you into trying two at a time. my crazy friends back home in the "desert" of horrible horrible usaa have tried to challenge me to 50 girls in a month. lol, there's no way. i've managed to get at least 1 a day so far but last couple of times i've hit sensitivity trouble of keeping it up. and finishing is out of the question. just too overworked. it's fun to try though. maybe i'll live off of coconut water for a few days see if that brings my little guy back up to speed. any other mongers gone through this? where you monger so much your stuff just demands rest? it's not getting any easier though, being in mexico with a tired dick is like going to a buffet already full. every 5 minutes i see a girl i want to have sex with.
i saw one of my favorite sws today on la calzada independencia (actually in the alleyway behind la calzada). she is outrageously hot and doesn't rush. still, for an extra $100 pesos the massage & bj at an estetica might have helped me finish. i banged her for a really long time until i had to give up because i was winded.
btw not sure if i mentioned but when leaving dany's if you head northwest about 15 minutes there is a really upscale part of town. most of the restaurants are too pricey to be worth it but i found this awesome place that sells birria tacos for $6 pesos on the street a couple blocks south of pedro moreno. the had a full on salsa bar right there on the street. it made for a great post-sex meal. i may have to try those tamales next. the 709 bus heads in that neighborhood but it is one of those 11 peso buses. much better to walk it from dany's.
hahaha, i'm sure she was joking but last time i left dany's the chick was wrapping up my condom so carefully. i teased her about it and she goes "son mis hijos." ahhh! i almost asked for it back lol.
Hey WorldWideScout!
Yeah too bad you missed the tamales but with the info I posted you'll be able to find them next Friday. That and ask Danny at the front desk or wherever she might be (she's the owner of Danny's) and she will tell you about it though she only speaks Spanish. She can draw you a "croquis" (pronounced "crow-keys" but spoken quickly). Little map from Dannys to the little store. Very, very good tamales and at 10 pesos each a total deal! I cannot think of anywhere you can get them at that price, and anywhere near as good as these are! You got to let them cool down a bit, too. They grab them right out of a big pot for you. Though they are done steaming.
Regarding the sensitivity issue and trying to keep it going after getting it daily. I have heard rumors that eating oysters is a great way to keep the stamina juices flowing. I don't know for sure because I have only eaten them once but I did have sex later that day and it was quite memorable. So who knows? We need to hear from someone with more experience with this.
Today I got to Danny's late. 6PM. I was able to help an English only speaker get some action translating so he understood how much it cost and what services were provided. He had just arrived before me and he ended up with the same gal I eventually got later in the evening. I'm pretty sure he left quite a happy customer!
So I went out to that store and got a huge 1 kg bottle of drinkable yogurt (yogurt para beber) for just 15 pesos and a bag of doritos for 6pesos and returned and chatted it up with two of the other girls who I had already been with and shared my yogurt drink with them and we watched some local TV. Then Abril came down and after her customer left with a big smile on his face we went upstairs for our hour of action.
Now this part is unusual and I cannot recommend it to most mongers, but I was not able to make it to a money changer in time this morning. The one near where I am staying was closed by the time I got there. Danny said she would let me change dollars but would only give me $10 pesos to the dollar, which hey it's an extra thing for her to deal with, I was OK with that. But I was able to ask Abril if she was willing to take payment in dollars and I showed her a picture I took of my laptop screen with the current exchange rate (13. 03 pesos to the dollar and let her know a money changer would probably give her about 12. 50 or so). It would be about a 100 peso tip for her since I only had a 200 peso bill and 2 USD twenties in my wallet at the time. The total for 1 hour is $600 so, she agreed to accept the dollars and change them on her own.
So with the money issue taken care of, up the stairs we went. Abril is a very cute gal, but she is very petite. She is also a very young mother of two. She is only 19 years old! I generally like older gals, say around 23, 24 to 39, 40ish and everywhere in between. So it was a bit of a push for me to go with Abril but I want to try to get as many different ladies as I can and she was the only one there I had not been with yet. So there was an added difficulty in getting it up but she worked it with CBJ and though it took longer she got the soldier to attention.
So after some good sucking action to get things started, she mounted up cowgirl style and started revving her engines up. She's a quick little gal and very lightweight. I called her a "conejita" (little bunny) because she was humping me so fast and she seemed to enjoy it. It was nice but I wanted to get a little more penetration and also feel her weight on me so I asked her to just lie down on me and let all her weight down. Well, she is a featherweight so it was easy to support her weight and grab her behind and get down with some serious gentle but steady, deep thrusting. And she moaned like she meant it, I think I caught her off-guard by asking her to put all her weight on me.
Her breasts are small, but they can get pointy. Her tummy is really nice although she does have a horizontal C-scar down from the navel. Still she looks like an 8 dressed up and has a very positive attitude. We went at it this way for a while and then my legs were getting a little tired (after 5 days. Hehe) so we shifted over to doggie style which she seemed to really like. I also gave her my informal "poll" on what the ladies' favorite position is and she said "doggie". (Estilo Perrito in Spanish). So it was nice doing her doggie style, I was able to get right up to her and knock my nuts into her since she is very pettite. However, an odd thing with Abril is that she didn't want to take her red shoes off. I asked and she said she was OK if I was OK with it and I told her it would be my first time doing it with a woman with her high heels on so, we continued.
And yeah, that was great, we got to getting a rhythm together and then I asked her to lie down and I continued for a while like that and almost blew my load. So I held off and then suggested we go mish and so we changed position. It was interesting seeing her spread eagle with her legs up and the red high heeled shoes on! We continued in mish for a while, then a bit of modified mish though with the shoes I was getting poked in my left leg by the heel. A bit distracting but I just moved my leg a bit and that was that. So we continued this way for a while. It does get tougher and tougher to come after you've been getting it regularly / daily now for 5 days. Plus Abril is very cute and nice and has what most who monger would consider a "hot body" because she is thin and so young and such. But I like them older. It was a mental challenge for me to be with a 19-year-old. Plus I am a bit on the heavy side and I was very concerned my weight would start crushing her if I got really into it. So I was careful about that and checked in with her at times to make sure things were OK and I wasn't squishing her. She laughed and just told me that if she's not turning blue it's fine! I joked that if she started looking like one of those blueberry tamales from yesterday I would worry! We both laughed out loud on that one, all the while both of us thrusting away at eachother. Mmm. That's a great memory!
So. Now I know I'm not going to be able to pop in this position, which is usually the one I totally pop in. She just looks too young for me (and she is 19, she is legal, I saw her Mexican legal I'd). So we returned to doggie style and then I was able to finish while kissing her smooth skin on her back and nape of her neck after a while and building up some good steam. I might have squished her a tiny bit at the end but she was a trooper and totally fine. I'm sure she's had to deal with heavier set men than me who are not so careful about it.
We cuddled a bit but as it was getting late and Danny's was close to closing I asked if we could skip the massage and just hit the showers together and she agreed. So off to the showers we went and enjoyed a nice hot shower. I brought (and always try to bring) my own soap because the little tiny bar soaps the estetica provides are not expensive and general soap. I like the Palmoliva de Avena (Palmolive oatmeal bar soap). Smells really nice, mild and it leaves you feeling light and clean. It also seems to get the girls to really enjoy being close to your privates while they do the blow job because it smells good (and a little like food). See where I am going? . I'm not sure but it might have been helpful in getting extra suction at times!
So after she was done showering (and I watching her take her shower. What a perv I am huh? . I showered and enjoyed a nice long soak and plenty of warm water. By the time I got downstairs it was after 9PM! Closing time! I got to say bye to Abril as she was walking out the door, all dressed up in normal street clothing. She sure looks great, nice ass in jeans! And to think just some minutes before I was nailing her. Mexico is an amazing place to monger! I also got to say bye to Jimena and Jessy and they gave me hugs and kisses on the cheek, a traditional hello / goodbye shared between men and women who know each other in Mexico. Nothing fake, just warm and human. I actually walked out with Jimena to the main street and said bye, got another hug and kiss on the cheek (I love that about Mexican women too! Latina women in general) and walked to the direction to take my bus while she got on a bus heading the other way.
I hope I can try Carmen tomorrow. She only works on Sundays as a chica, but she works everyday at the Estetica as the cleaning lady. She fell while she was cleaning one of the showers on Friday, though. So she may or may not be able to work as a 'chica' this Sunday. Carmen is dark skinned from the state of Nayarit, and lived very close to the coast for a time. She is friendly and a bit shy, but she's not used to working as a "working girl", but has done so recently to get some extra money. She started working about 1 month or so ago. The girls there all rely on her a lot since they cannot go out to buy things like food or supplies once they are all dressed up for work. To do so would get a lot of negative attention drawn to the estetica, so Carmen's role as cleaning lady / gopher. Food runner / and room refresher is critical. Think of Radar O'Reilly from an old USA TV Series called M*A*S*H. But make it a she and make her about 33 years old. I have never seen her decked out yet, but Danny said she looks really nice once she's all dressed up. She's been very nice and friendly with me and I've been able to talk with her a lot more than the others since the demand for chicas always has them on the run. I'm sure if I get a chance to be with her it will be a really nice session, but I just have to see how she is feeling. Maybe just a half hour with her if she can handle it if she comes in Sunday. Sunday always has the least number of chicas available as most spend that day with their children. There are 4 or 5 that come in for Sundays.
OK happy mongering and hope to see ya at some point WorldWideScout! If not just keep the ladies smiling at Danny's and all over Guadalajara! .
El Mojado
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Mediteraneo: Ugh, this place . I hope more tourists start reading this board for advice and input. I end up going to Mediteraneo because it is close to where I live, the girls are often 8s+, and they take credit. Last night I was with a girl, she did a great job. Full on GFE without asking for it, but I guess I went over time. But nobody said anything. No knock on the door, nothing from the girl. When we went downstairs staff, mamasan, girls were all there for me like an intervention. They tried to upcharge me for the extra time! Luckily I got out of it, I've been with a bunch of the girls in the room already and they helped stand up for me, but it was both annoying and embarassing. Can you imagine if I were an english-only speaking tourist? How fucking scary! What were they thinking? It would be great if some of these girls move to a better Estetica. If you are a visitor I hope you read this, Mediteraneo used to be fun but at this point it is becoming a professional scam operation. So sad. You might want to STAY AWAY if you are a tourist! If you are in town, just write us here and we will help let you know about the various other options. Sometimes things change fast in Mexico, places come and go.
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Paloma: I was in Medrano (somewhat SE side of the city) shopping for a new shirt when I saw business card ads (with Jessica Alba on them LOL) advertising a new Estetica Masculina. Paloma I'm pretty sure it was called. I thought advertising was illegal, but it wasn't far and wanted to check it out (the 1300 block on Avenida Revolucion, major street and pretty much across the street for the Police Academy). My plan was to go in and see the girls, the prices, and see if they took credit card (a huge plus with exchange rates). You can't miss this place, HUGE signs and a giant billboard ono top of the building. BUT! There was an armed guard / cop just hanging out in front of the place at all times. He never leaves. Granted, he is probably hired security for the place but none of the other places have security and these guys are clearly advertising. The whole thing just looked fishy so I didn't bother going in. Has anyone heard of this place / seen it / tried it? Is it real?
[QUOTE=WorldWideScout; 1346602]#1)
Paloma: I was in Medrano (somewhat SE side of the city) shopping for a new shirt when I saw business card ads (with Jessica Alba on them LOL) advertising a new Estetica Masculina. Paloma I'm pretty sure it was called. I thought advertising was illegal, but it wasn't far and wanted to check it out (the 1300 block on Avenida Revolucion, major street and pretty much across the street for the Police Academy). My plan was to go in and see the girls, the prices, and see if they took credit card (a huge plus with exchange rates). You can't miss this place, HUGE signs and a giant billboard ono top of the building. BUT! There was an armed guard / cop just hanging out in front of the place at all times. He never leaves. Granted, he is probably hired security for the place but none of the other places have security and these guys are clearly advertising. The whole thing just looked fishy so I didn't bother going in. Has anyone heard of this place / seen it / tried it? Is it real?[/QUOTE]Paloma was robbed at gunpoint a few weeks before, thats why they have security now. They took 150 thousand pesos. Google it, el informador had a piece on it. Not been there BTW.
Guys,
I need information for the best, secure, and price conscious f / s spot in Guadalajara. I will bet here for a 4hr layover and want to plan a play date.
I will be checking my bags so easy taxi right to heaven and back would be awesome. Specific location would be great.
Thanks for your help!
I will post the fun pix for your review.
There are reviews of masajistas who work at esteticas masculinas (translation: hookers who work in brothels disguised as barber shops) at this web site:
http://masajesengdl.b l o g s p o t.com/
[QUOTE=Ducati32; 1363254]Guys,
I need information for the best, secure, and price conscious f / s spot in Guadalajara. I will bet here for a 4hr layover and want to plan a play date.
I will be checking my bags so easy taxi right to heaven and back would be awesome. Specific location would be great.
Thanks for your help!
I will post the fun pix for your review.[/QUOTE]I am a budget traveler looking for cheap pussy. Does Guadalajara have a place for independents where all is same price and all have a room upstairs. I am thinking of places I have been where there are 100s of girls at any time day or night. Like. Vila Mimosa in Rio, Trocadero in Lima. 6th Street in St Joe, Zone in Tijuana. Most of these places the girls free lance, come and go when they want, and many bars. Prices $15 to $25.
Any suggestions appreciated.
Also any hotels near the action that are safe, clean and moderate in price?
hi peeps might be in gdl this weekend but then off to colima, is it safe to bus it there? will be coming from mazatlan wonta rrive in gdl until late in the day then leaving like 6 fora 3 hour trip to colima then manzanillo.
then i will be back to monger in gdl for a week.
if aslso any one wants to hook up in gdl while i am there post here or pm me on this, later, nibs.
Wow watching these posts I wanted to find a weekend place not from Gdl this coming weekend to do Was going to do Colima and Manzanillo, Might now just do Chapala one night and Jocotepec, Ok I will arrive from Mazatlan if I arrive from this way when I arrive in the main sation can I bus it from there or must I go the one in centro? Pm me on this folks.
[QUOTE=Coahuila; 685423]Supposedly, there is no mongering around here. I have lived here for a year and even the locals tell me that. Well, it is not true. You just have to know the tricks. Apparently there are several cantinas (bars which have chicks that will fuck for $$$ on the weekends). At this point I have found the following:
Jocotepec. At least 1.
Ajijic. At least 1.
San Antonio. 0.
Riberas del Pilar. 2.
Chapala. 3.
Areas within 15 min of Chapala. 3.
I have not really tried out any of these but will this week. If anyone is lakeside and interested please post and I will give more details.
Cheers,
Coahuila[/QUOTE]
hi rio,
i've been to all the places you been i been to gdl twice going now my 3rd time. me too. i will stay longer now. i thiough need more ingfo on where i can getr a cheap weekly in gdl or monthly then in april i will try to fly to tapachula and bus and to central america.
ok peeps pm or post on this. lets trade budget mongering ideas. later rio too, nibs.
[quote=rioyankee; 1380770]i am a budget traveler looking for cheap pussy. does guadalajara have a place for independents where all is same price and all have a room upstairs. i am thinking of places i have been where there are 100s of girls at any time day or night. like. vila mimosa in rio, trocadero in lima. 6th street in st joe, zone in tijuana. most of these places the girls free lance, come and go when they want, and many bars. prices $15 to $25.
any suggestions appreciated.
also any hotels near the action that are safe, clean and moderate in price?[/quote]
[QUOTE=Rioyankee; 1380770]I am a budget traveler looking for cheap pussy. Does Guadalajara have a place for independents where all is same price and all have a room upstairs. I am thinking of places I have been where there are 100s of girls at any time day or night. Like. Vila Mimosa in Rio, Trocadero in Lima. 6th Street in St Joe, Zone in Tijuana. Most of these places the girls free lance, come and go when they want, and many bars. Prices $15 to $25.
Any suggestions appreciated.
Also any hotels near the action that are safe, clean and moderate in price?[/QUOTE]Just got to GDL tonight. If there are cheapies, it'd have to be street meat, be / see anytime there's a middleman involved the price is going to go up.
I'm staying in the historic center, a few blocks west of Av. 16 September on Madero. And, just walking to dinner, was propositioned a number of times by some street girls. Some were pretty hot. PRETTY sure they're legitimately girls, but there is a "Mr. Gay" Taco stand down a block or two. If not, they're damn convincing.
If you're looking for budget deals I assume this would be an area to try.
Have you slept with her. I have been with her a few times but she is flaky on her stories.
She is under different adds, and I want to know when was the last time she was active. She has been either independant or under and Agency.
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[QUOTE=Lech69; 1392795]Just got to GDL tonight. If there are cheapies, it'd have to be street meat, be / see anytime there's a middleman involved the price is going to go up.
I'm staying in the historic center, a few blocks west of Av. 16 September on Madero. And, just walking to dinner, was propositioned a number of times by some street girls. Some were pretty hot. PRETTY sure they're legitimately girls, but there is a "Mr. Gay" Taco stand down a block or two. If not, they're damn convincing.
If you're looking for budget deals I assume this would be an area to try.[/QUOTE]I am only a few blocks from where you are. Maybe we could meet up and compare notes. Not sure how as we cannot use PM or email adresses. If you also belong to another forum you can pm mer there. Or is it okay just to say, . Let's meet at XYZ square?
I am available tonight and or tomorrow. I am near San Fransisco Plaza, not far from you.
RioYankee
[QUOTE=Lech69; 1392795]Just got to GDL tonight. If there are cheapies, it'd have to be street meat, be / see anytime there's a middleman involved the price is going to go up.
I'm staying in the historic center, a few blocks west of Av. 16 September on Madero. And, just walking to dinner, was propositioned a number of times by some street girls. Some were pretty hot. PRETTY sure they're legitimately girls, but there is a "Mr. Gay" Taco stand down a block or two. If not, they're damn convincing.
If you're looking for budget deals I assume this would be an area to try.[/QUOTE]I am not too far from you. Not sure what the rules of the Forum are for meeting. I know I cannot leave my email or even a public area. Any suggestions for where we can meet?
RioYankee
[QUOTE=Rioyankee; 1393049]. Any suggestions for where we can meet?
RioYankee[/QUOTE]Only suggestion I can do is to excahnge PM, this is usual way members meet.
Have you paid subscription which allows you to exchange PM?
RY. Pardon just saw your posts, wasn't aware you were responding to me. Did you have fun at least?
I just wrote a comprehensive report on Dany's and Titanic. That just got wiped out on my computer. FFFFFUUUUUUUU.
I guess I'll post now a greatly abridged version, so as to contribute still and leave some tips / new info for others here.
Was at Estetica Dany's, which I feel like is not up to what others have reviewed it here as, or a victim of its own success. At first told there was no room, then led to a room where they were hurrying another guy out (awkward!) Line up: 4 girls. 3 of which were just hideous. 1 was cute (Dana) , nice tetas bit of a gut. 350 pesos for half hour or 600 for an hour or two girls half hour. She enjoyed cowgirl, didn't like doggy when I slapped her ass (got real mad LOL) and when I couldn't hold on (it's been a while) it was over in 15 minutes. She took a shower, then when I took mine was quick to say she'd wait downstairs. In other words. 30 minutes turned into 15. Shower was good at least, hot and high pressure. But Dany's, in my experience, was the opposite of GFE. Every opportunity taken to give less for what you pony up. Maybe it's different if you're a long-time repeat, but if it were me, I'd give one of the many other esteticas a try instead.
Titanic, however, was a blast. 2 drink minimum. 100 pesos total. 110 pesos for the fichas. There was one hot number. Flaca, beautiful lips, can't remember name. That made it worth it for a few fichas. She said she had to sell 10 or not get paid. Story or not, for the cost of a couple of lap dances in the states, I had this hottie grinding on me for a good 20 minutes. 3 fichas. 3 rounds later. The talent seemed to get better the longer I stayed (or it was her effect.) So, Titanic. Thumbs up, Dany's. Thumbs down, that's my take on GDL. In Zihuatanejo now, able to hit the strip club circuit, so will update that long-dormant thread shortly.
Thanks for those two tips I will be in GDL another ten days, so as you come across the budget casas (especialy the ones run our of private homes, please share.
[QUOTE=Lech69; 1394331]RY. Pardon just saw your posts, wasn't aware you were responding to me. Did you have fun at least?
I just wrote a comprehensive report on Dany's and Titanic. That just got wiped out on my computer. FFFFFUUUUUUUU.
I guess I'll post now a greatly abridged version, so as to contribute still and leave some tips / new info for others here.
Was at Estetica Dany's, which I feel like is not up to what others have reviewed it here as, or a victim of its own success. At first told there was no room, then led to a room where they were hurrying another guy out (awkward!) Line up: 4 girls. 3 of which were just hideous. 1 was cute (Dana) , nice tetas bit of a gut. 350 pesos for half hour or 600 for an hour or two girls half hour. She enjoyed cowgirl, didn't like doggy when I slapped her ass (got real mad LOL) and when I couldn't hold on (it's been a while) it was over in 15 minutes. She took a shower, then when I took mine was quick to say she'd wait downstairs. In other words. 30 minutes turned into 15. Shower was good at least, hot and high pressure. But Dany's, in my experience, was the opposite of GFE. Every opportunity taken to give less for what you pony up. Maybe it's different if you're a long-time repeat, but if it were me, I'd give one of the many other esteticas a try instead.
Titanic, however, was a blast. 2 drink minimum. 100 pesos total. 110 pesos for the fichas. There was one hot number. Flaca, beautiful lips, can't remember name. That made it worth it for a few fichas. She said she had to sell 10 or not get paid. Story or not, for the cost of a couple of lap dances in the states, I had this hottie grinding on me for a good 20 minutes. 3 fichas. 3 rounds later. The talent seemed to get better the longer I stayed (or it was her effect.) So, Titanic. Thumbs up, Dany's. Thumbs down, that's my take on GDL. In Zihuatanejo now, able to hit the strip club circuit, so will update that long-dormant thread shortly.[/QUOTE]
HI I am still in Nayarit folks next month I will be in Gdl to monger where are good places to find huge juggs in Gdl?
Also I just cancelled my jet blue from a DR Trip I cancelled they gave my credit right away I am still fighting Cops to get my 500 bucks back. I here's Copa is in the burbs, How can I get by there from centro Gdl by Taxi? Also has any one ever had an issue with Copa too? If so get back to me folks post here or pm me.
And the Big Tits info too, Later, Nibu.
Hi Brito so is Gdl just Medium tetas then? Hey. First post on ISG.
Just been to Mediterano here in Guad. I'll tell you about Cynthia.
She must be 30's. Slim, not the biggest breasts but nice ass and quite a pretty face. Anyway a few months back we had sex and it was good. But I never expected it too be soo good this time. Really.
Starts off with a good massage. She strips off and sits on you, oiling you up and massaging you, maybe 5 mins. But after is when the real fireworks are let off. You turn over. She starts massaging the vital muscle which is why we are in the place in the first place. A bit off fondling for a while and she slips on the condom and starts blowing. I let her fully arouse me and then I lay her on her back. We fucked a while, very intimate, kissing and all. Then she plays with your balls while you take her doggy style.
Feeling very randy. I asked her to stand up and I banged her from behind. Then the shower. Again she bent over while I took her and water was running on us. Then dripping wet to the bed for some more of me on her and her on me! Wow. I requested a hand job to finish off so we lay side by side kissing and her stroking me. Then I got on her for a tit wank. A bit of brit eng here. She jerked me off with her tits, then blew me, no condom. Then what happened suggests that I think she probably fanced me. I finished off inside her but with condom. No I have never done this before but this experience was more of a man making love to woman reather than man fuckign a experience. We lay for a few minutes just kissing.
Anway, all my experiences in this place have been exellent. 460 pesos. Def worth it. Forget the strip clubs. Theyll milk your money dry, . Here they milk your member dry. I'll be back. You should try it too. Just a bit worried about the sex without condom. I know in states and europe girls take contraceptive pills daily to prevent conception. Is it widely available here.
On a general note. Not all the girls are really sexy but better than other places. And any reports on cynthia would be great. I got to find out if she's really a nympth or if she just has a little crush on me.
Thanks.
I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please.
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i am thinking of going to the city of guadalajara for a three day excursion. for those who are familiar with the massage parlors of medellin, like loutron or abydos, which of the esteticas masculinas resemble them in terms of having girls looking like paisas. thinking of staying at the westin, since it is fairly close to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. is this place chica friendly? thanks.
[quote=sun devil;1411717]i am thinking of going to the city of guadalajara for a three day excursion. for those who are familiar with the massage parlors of medellin, like loutron or abydos, which of the esteticas masculinas resemble them in terms of having girls looking like paisas. thinking of staying at the westin, since it is fairly close to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. is this place chica friendly? thanks.[/quote]i've never been to loutron or abydos, but have been with paisas in medellin, panama and costa rica. you are likely to be disappointed. while women from guadalajara are reputed to be among the most beautiful in mexico, they don't hold a candle to paisas, and the ones in the esteticas aren't the most attractive. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] may be the best choice. it has attractive women and it's the only one i've been to in recent years. if you're prepared to pay loutron prices you might be interested in [url]www.zonadivas.com.[/url] there's a forum on the web site with reviews.
you might consider the riu too, as it's even closer to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] than the westin. i haven't stayed at either. chica friendly can be a problem in guadalajara from what i've read. i just walk in pretending my date is my girlfriend and have never had a problem, but am not coming in at 3:00 am with a woman dressed like a street hooker.
HI its like after 8 now near 8. 30 I walked like about an hour ago from the Calz Indepencia sur area down gigantes then thru Mina That area and Obreagon until like the metro station before Obaltos forgot the name, I could not find calle 52 all I know is in that are by the metro scary dudes around side streets too you walk back a few blocks going back to Calz Indepencia seems safer, Now I'm at the far end of the Metro think name is called Tetlan is it here then?
Darn if no so name exists called 52 where is it I'm not going to get my self killed finding this area.
Even my Mexican friend can't find it, Can someone pm this info I am here now until late may. Pm or post here.
I am staying in the plaza tapatio area, Please need this info right away as I willa ttempt tommorrow earlier in the day find CALLE 52, Please info on this now, Later, Nibu.
[QUOTE=Ken Tucky; 693669]I spent 4 hours in this area yesterday. I wanted to see IF what was being published here had any validity. First of all, Calle 52 is not named "Calle 52" it has another name and that makes it difficult to find. Secondly, it is 3 blocks between Obragon and 12 de Octubre, so when it is stated that there is a "place in the middle of the block" it makes it hard to find at the very least. Anyways, I was there between 4 and 8. There were about 4 DOGS working and 1 pup. Most all wanted 150pesos. They were just too ugly to even waste my time! Although the pup was interesting. I only saw one TV who wanted 200pesos. Hmmm. There were about 4 clubs in the area. Most did not open until 9.
I have mongered in Monterrey. There may be "Monterrey Style" clubs in GDL but I have YET to find them. And IF you did find them, they would be few and FAR between. Not like in MTY where they are literally door to door in a ten block area. I'll keep exploring. Thanks for the info Coahuilla. I had a good time exploring yesterday. The easiest way to get to Calle 52 area is to take the east / west metro / train / subway. Just ask someone where to get off for "Calle 52." It's only about 2 blocks from the station.[/QUOTE]
Have you guys tried this place?
I will be staying in Riu Plaza Hotel and it is the closest place from my hotel.
Would anyone please tell me what kind of service for how much they offer?
Thank you very much in advance.
OK This Ken Tucky Guy gives very sketchy directions, Think you take the metro line to I think a stop called like San Cristobal Onafe and then walk a couple blocks I think to a street thats a bigger street too called like Basillo Davidilla or somethjing like that. Not Sure if its on the street or going to one of the side streetsc but yeh I guess the connecting strrets are like gigantes octubere 12 and I Think Obregon which actually turns in to it then again back to Obregon.
If anyone has more info on this send me a pm or post back here, I did send Ken And Coahuila a message but no replies yet.
Ok I will ask my local friends again and if I have new info I post back and BTW the Metro to get here then stops by 11 so then you would have to cab it back after 11.
Ok I with here on replies on Calle 52, Nibu.
[QUOTE=Coahuila; 691524]There are about 15 spots with TVs, and 5 with real girls. Of those 5, only 2 have any material worth while. The hotties are EXACTLY between Obregon and 12 de Octubre, ON Calle 52, on the west side of the street in a small door almost in the middle of the block. IN THAT DOOR, girls are 7. 9 s. The rest of the doors offer 1s. 6s at best, although one of the doors on 12 de Octubre supposedly has some good quality girls that never bother to stand in the door due to the amount of regular clients they have.
Mr. North, how and when are we going to meet up. I wouldn't mind taking you by the area, I have some unfinished "business" there with a chica. LOL. If you are in Ajijic, stop by the real estate office named "Casa Mexico" in the Plaza Ajijic and leave a message for Chris with your number. Again, be discreet.
Cheers,
Coahuila[/QUOTE]
Ok I stillhave not tried to find this place but I see this guy was pulled over on the sidewalk maybe yoiu were not discreet enough, Also why would Fedearles be patrolling this area? Seems like this is a 24 hour place.
I need as much info on this place. I know I keep posting but I googled this on the internet not much on this here.
Ok I wait for responses then, Nibu.
[QUOTE=Ken Tucky; 700293]I went to Calle 52 last night. I particularly wanted to check out the strip clubs. There are actually 6 in the area. All have big impressive facades on their entrances, but as of 10:30pm they were all DEAD. I went into one who made me pay a $40mxnpeso cover. They told me there were 5 girls working. They lied. It just felt like the same song and dance as every other SC in GDL.
I did run into some trouble: with the police. I was walking on the sidewalk. They pulled over, checked me and stole $100mxnpesos from me! These were federales, not the local policia.
There are lots of chicas of all kinds in the Calle 52 area. Just be careful with the police![/QUOTE]
Hi You all I work by that park always know there is day action not sure night its next to a hospital too and The Macrobus stop. The Blue Macrobus stop yes.
Ok Calle 52 Yeh its off The San Cristobal de Onate metro line like I said. Then other major street is Juan de Dios roble.
Also lot of massage places in Guadlajara area I will try to post more on this in future posts, Later, Nibu.
[QUOTE=Ken Tucky; 698622]I went downtown last night just to check out what was happening on a Tuesday night in January. The last time I was downtown "exploring" was back in August. I was on Independencia between Revolution and Morelos Park. I've just given up on the SC's here. Lipstick had a bunch of balloons and a bunch of big bouncers out front. I wouldn't even dare look at them muchless go in. Funny, but one of the bouncer recognized me as a gringo and looked as if he wanted to 'persuade' me to go in. The SC scene here is just plain stupid. Just plain stupid! I know that it has to do with the local politics and religion. But still, this is Mexico! And the street scene is about as wide open as I've seen anywhere. Ok. So, you have a lot of street action on both sides of Independencia for about a mile. There were at least 10 girls working in Morelos Park. Now granted, these are NOT hot mamasitas, but there was one who was completely adorable. 200pesos. That's the price. I like to pretend that I don't speak any Spanish and let them quote me a price. Usually I do this only with the fugly mammas. Anyways, I'm going to go to the SC in the Calle 52 area this weekend. I've been there but it has been way too early. Problem is, Calle 52 is a long way from where I live and the buses and subway close at 11pm. Hard to get into the 'game' in the SC when you know that you have to take a 30min taxi ride home. Ok. Happy New Year.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nibu Raphael; 1397037]Hi Brito so is Gdl just Medium tetas then? Hey. First post on ISG.
Just been to Mediterano here in Guad. I'll tell you about Cynthia.
She must be 30's. Slim, not the biggest breasts but nice ass and quite a pretty face. Anyway a few months back we had sex and it was good. But I never expected it too be soo good this time. Really.
Starts off with a good massage. She strips off and sits on you, oiling you up and massaging you, maybe 5 mins. But after is when the real fireworks are let off. You turn over. She starts massaging the vital muscle which is why we are in the place in the first place. A bit off fondling for a while and she slips on the condom and starts blowing. I let her fully arouse me and then I lay her on her back. We fucked a while, very intimate, kissing and all. Then she plays with your balls while you take her doggy style.
Feeling very randy. I asked her to stand up and I banged her from behind. Then the shower. Again she bent over while I took her and water was running on us. Then dripping wet to the bed for some more of me on her and her on me! Wow. I requested a hand job to finish off so we lay side by side kissing and her stroking me. Then I got on her for a tit wank. A bit of brit eng here. She jerked me off with her tits, then blew me, no condom. Then what happened suggests that I think she probably fanced me. I finished off inside her but with condom. No I have never done this before but this experience was more of a man making love to woman reather than man fuckign a experience. We lay for a few minutes just kissing.
Anway, all my experiences in this place have been exellent. 460 pesos. Def worth it. Forget the strip clubs. Theyll milk your money dry, . Here they milk your member dry. I'll be back. You should try it too. Just a bit worried about the sex without condom. I know in states and europe girls take contraceptive pills daily to prevent conception. Is it widely available here.
On a general note. Not all the girls are really sexy but better than other places. And any reports on cynthia would be great. I got to find out if she's really a nympth or if she just has a little crush on me.
Thanks.
I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please.
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url]
For more information.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I don't live in GDL anymore but visit once a year. My encounter with Cyntia was in 2007, I think and not something that I encountered ever again. She no longer works at Est Med to my knowledge.
My last visit in 2012 was to one of the girls hanging out near San Juan in calle Huerto or there abouts. You can find chicks hanging outside hotels there who usually morenas but sweet enough if not of model quality. I eyed one up from across the road and she waved at me, how could I resist. So I walk over and without a word more both walk into the hotel, I think I was charged about 150 pesos for the room. (I don't remember exactly). We go to the room (I forget the girls name, lets call her Liz) Once inside she asaked for 800 pesos. That made me smile as its vastily overpriced so I offered 400 which still overpriced but not expensive for me anyway. We spent about 1 hour in that room. The girl from Mexico DF was 19 and very talkative asking about my country etc. Intercourse was routine, nothing special but I enjoyed her young body and she had a nice attitude (though nothing kinky or extraordinary). Would do again if feeling horny but nothing to write home about. I recommend visiting estectias and viewing all girls and picking one you think you might click with, girls that fancy you will make it more enjoyable. (in my experience anyway)
Estetica Meditaerrano and Estectica luigis offer fairly nice girls with decent attitudes. Been to other places but mostly to these esteticas. Will hae to write more on my experiences in GDL sometime. Going to back in 6 weeks. Time to read the gdl board, viva mexico cabrones!
[QUOTE=Nibu Raphael; 1397037]Hi Brito so is Gdl just Medium tetas then? Hey. First post on ISG.
Just been to Mediterano here in Guad. I'll tell you about Cynthia.
She must be 30's. Slim, not the biggest breasts but nice ass and quite a pretty face. Anyway a few months back we had sex and it was good. But I never expected it too be soo good this time. Really.
Starts off with a good massage. She strips off and sits on you, oiling you up and massaging you, maybe 5 mins. But after is when the real fireworks are let off. You turn over. She starts massaging the vital muscle which is why we are in the place in the first place. A bit off fondling for a while and she slips on the condom and starts blowing. I let her fully arouse me and then I lay her on her back. We fucked a while, very intimate, kissing and all. Then she plays with your balls while you take her doggy style.
Feeling very randy. I asked her to stand up and I banged her from behind. Then the shower. Again she bent over while I took her and water was running on us. Then dripping wet to the bed for some more of me on her and her on me! Wow. I requested a hand job to finish off so we lay side by side kissing and her stroking me. Then I got on her for a tit wank. A bit of brit eng here. She jerked me off with her tits, then blew me, no condom. Then what happened suggests that I think she probably fanced me. I finished off inside her but with condom. No I have never done this before but this experience was more of a man making love to woman reather than man fuckign a experience. We lay for a few minutes just kissing.
Anway, all my experiences in this place have been exellent. 460 pesos. Def worth it. Forget the strip clubs. Theyll milk your money dry, . Here they milk your member dry. I'll be back. You should try it too. Just a bit worried about the sex without condom. I know in states and europe girls take contraceptive pills daily to prevent conception. Is it widely available here.
On a general note. Not all the girls are really sexy but better than other places. And any reports on cynthia would be great. I got to find out if she's really a nympth or if she just has a little crush on me.
Thanks.
I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please.
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url]
For more information.[/QUOTE]I don't live in GDL anymore but visit once a year. My encounter with Cyntia was in 2007, I think and not something that I encountered ever again. She no longer works at Est Med to my knowledge.
My last visit in 2012 was to one of the girls hanging out near San Juan in calle Huerto or there abouts. You can find chicks hanging outside hotels there who usually morenas but sweet enough if not of model quality. I eyed one up from across the road and she waved at me, how could I resist. So I walk over and without a word more both walk into the hotel, I think I was charged about 150 pesos for the room. (I don't remember exactly). We go to the room (I forget the girls name, lets call her Liz) Once inside she asaked for 800 pesos. That made me smile as its vastily overpriced so I offered 400 which still overpriced but not expensive for me anyway. We spent about 1 hour in that room. The girl from Mexico DF was 19 and very talkative asking about my country etc. Intercourse was routine, nothing special but I enjoyed her young body and she had a nice attitude (though nothing kinky or extraordinary). Would do again if feeling horny but nothing to write home about. I recommend visiting estectias and viewing all girls and picking one you think you might click with, girls that fancy you will make it more enjoyable. (in my experience anyway)
Estetica Meditaerrano and Estectica luigis offer fairly nice girls with decent attitudes. Been to other places but mostly to these esteticas. Will hae to write more on my experiences in GDL sometime. Going to back in 6 weeks. Time to read the gdl board, viva mexico cabrones!
Any monger friends in the area recently who wouldn't mind meeting up for a drink?
1st time in GDL, staying at presidente intercontinental, speak passable spanish, just looking for a good time,
The streets outside seems to have SGs at this hour, but nothing that peaks my interest.
If someone is down, either leave a message or PM me,
Let's share some war stories
Never mongered in central Mexico. Mediteraneo seems like a popular place. So how do I get there? Or where is it? Is it hotel or a district? Thank you for the help.
Any updates on GDL? I heard women here are very pretty. Its so unfortunate that the thread has not great information for newbies to GDL. I am frequent monger to Tijuana and San jose and those places are cake walk. Seniors please share recent information so that newbies visit this place and contribute further.
For guys travelling through south texas, they now have a direct flight from reynosa to 4 places in mexico by viva aerobus which will cost you just 200 dollars round trip. Its great inexpensive airlines which I frequently take crossing the border from mcallen texas to reynosa airport.
Reynosa to veracruz.
R to Mexico city.
R to Guadalahara.
R to Cancun.
I do not suggest Cancun as mongering destination. I have been there but chicas are expensive with GFE.
Veracruz has high potential and is poor. DF and GDL are other options. If anyone wants to go to these places, please let me know. I live in south texas.
Thanks
[QUOTE=LittleFingers;1445253]Never mongered in central Mexico. Mediteraneo seems like a popular place. So how do I get there? Or where is it? Is it hotel or a district? Thank you for the help.[/QUOTE]Dude, its pretty simple, grab a cab to the Carlton Mission Hotel. From their driveway walk to the closest corner (left out of hotel) and look to your left. The med will be diagonially across the street. If you are looking at the Wal-mart then you are looking the wrong direction.
You can also use google earth to view Carlton Mission in GDL and use street view to see whats around it, this will help you find your bearings.
Hi fellow mongers. While walking last night after dinner my colleague and I were solicited to enter Draco Gentleman's club. It is right above La Gorda restaurant on A. Corona. We did not go in but I am thinking about wandering back on my own tonight. Any intel? I am staying at the Holiday In Classico downtown and not at all familiar with the scene down here. Any info would be a great help.
Have met a few very beautiful girls in Guadalajara and Puerta Vallarta.
Puerta Vallarta has a few bars on the main road with stunningly beautiful young girls. Their ficha drinks are like $20. They all want $200 or more for short time and would rather hang around with other putas all night, not drinking or doing any business.
PV's Zona Roja is on the same road going North along the coastline, about 2 miles pass the cruise ship terminal, on a dirt road on the east side, right before the old bull ring. There are half a dozen bars with a few young girls very good-looking for about $40 day and night. Cruise passengers should ask taxi drivers to take them here for drinking and screwing rather than going downtown.
Also met lots of good-looking girls with nice, gentle personalities from Puebla, which is a town South of DF.
Veracruz is supposedly a well off city with extraction and transshipment of oil. But the city and her people remain very poor. The area is now plaqued with extreme violence by the drugs gangs. Veracruz girls tend to be short, chubby, dark-skinned with homely features.
Thanks for the Viva Aerobus tip. I am thinking of taking a trip to DF and Puebla. If I am bored I can always book quick flights to Cancun from there.
Volaris also has many steep sales to cities in Mexico from border towns or a few US airports. Check it out.
[QUOTE=Nsd1983; 1445525]Any updates on GDL? I heard women here are very pretty. Its so unfortunate that the thread has not great information for newbies to GDL. I am frequent monger to Tijuana and San jose and those places are cake walk. Seniors please share recent information so that newbies visit this place and contribute further.
For guys travelling through south texas, they now have a direct flight from reynosa to 4 places in mexico by viva aerobus which will cost you just 200 dollars round trip. Its great inexpensive airlines which I frequently take crossing the border from mcallen texas to reynosa airport.
Reynosa to veracruz.
R to Mexico city.
R to Guadalahara.
R to Cancun.
I do not suggest Cancun as mongering destination. I have been there but chicas are expensive with GFE.
Veracruz has high potential and is poor. DF and GDL are other options. If anyone wants to go to these places, please let me know. I live in south texas.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hi all,
Great forum.
So I just moved to Guadalajara and, after dipping my toes into the scene here, it seems very hard to find a girl working at the estetica's who are willing to do anal. Escort sites sometimes have ladies offering this service, but I haven't ventured this route yet.
Do any of my fellow mongers have any advice as to any girls who are up for Greek love or any specific estetica's where it is offered? I saw adverts for one place, Italia Spa, that offered it and I walked by another place, Griegos Estetica, where you would think it's a no brainer. Anyone have experience with either place.
Thanks in advance.
I have just arrived in GDL and will be here through the weekend. Can anyone recommend massage places with full or partial service? I have RTF but the info seems dated or contradictory.
Also, I just flew from San Jose del Cabo in Baja and was taken by some local guys to the only Casa / strip club in town called Candy's Men Club. It is on the west side of road that takes you the airport. A bit north of the Pemex station and adjacent to a tire store. The girls were young and decent. Most were 7 calibre if not above. However, the prices much like for every other consumer item in BCS were quite high. $200mex for a five minute private dance or on occasion they offered a happy hour for ten minutes at same price. One hottie wanted $115 USD ($150mex) for a half hour with full service. I had three lap dances with three girls. The first girl had mucho jewelry in her lips and also on her nipples. This made for some stimulating kissing. The second girl, who approached me, was from GDL and gave a spirited lap dance. Her name was Denise and she said to find her on my return to Baja. I think that I could arrange a private visit with her to my hotel. The final girl, who was the hottest and naturally a bit of a *****, would not kiss and shorted me on time. The only thing cheap was the beer. $120mex for 5 bottles. The price to buy a beer for the girl was $200 Mex so might as well skip the small talk and go straight to the lap dance.
I also noticed another club on same road, again on the west side and near Baja California street and the ped bridge. This place was called Baldes.
[QUOTE=Tomasb; 1523532]I have just arrived in GDL and will be here through the weekend. Can anyone recommend massage places with full or partial service? I have RTF but the info seems dated or contradictory.
As a follow up to my inquiry, I decided to stay in an upscale area of GDL called Chapultepec or Colonia America. I found an inexpensive budget hotel for $350M. While walking back from the local mall called Magno, I came upon two massage places disguised as hair stylist shops for men. Yeah, right.
I stopped in both and was stunned by how attractive and young these girls were. The first place is called Men's Paradise and the second is Oasis (Remember to use the Spanish pronunciation for this word) if using a taxi. Both offered relatively upscale
Accommodations and the charge was the same. Rather expensive for GDL or $1200M or $90 USD for one.
Hour.
This price is in line with another place behind the Magno mall called Select, which was mentioned before on this site. Perhaps because these places (called estecias) are in nice residential neighborhoods, the.
Price is higher though amusing when you consider the upscale nature of these hoods. Select is on LaPaz and is behind a cast iron wall with two barber painted poles on either end. It is next to a Heineken sign and a bar. Their sign is not prominent and difficult to read.
I returned several hours later to Oasis and the blonde hottie I wanted had left for the.
Evening. Instead I selected another girl.
Named Linda or should I say she selected me. The main act started off slow.
But Linda really got into it. Since I am an older monger, it can take.
Me some time to climax much to the chagrin of some.
Providers. But in this case, there was no rush, just a relaxing and enjoyable time. She appeared to get off as well.
I hope to check out Dany'a also mentioned here a few.
Other places and provide more current reports. BTW, I also found Luigis but it was.
Closed for the evening. It was next to a nice restaurant. Interesting how these different type of establishments coexist here.
[quote=tomasb; 1524340]
[quote=tomasb; 1523532]i have just arrived in gdl and will be here through the weekend. can anyone recommend massage places with full or partial service?.[/quote]you seem to have it figured out. it has been years since i was last in gdl. these two were once my favorites, i don't know the current situation. they all charged about the same, too much, about 1, 000mn.
-spa eduars 2876-b golfo de mexico just a block and a half from the minerva circle, next to (and behind) the hot dog place. enter through the gate on the right. [url]https://twitter.com/spaeduars[/url] one of the most gorgeous of my lifetime was had there many years ago.
-jet set avenida méxico #2071 +52 33 3615 3451 easy to get to and you can get a shave and haircut.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], high class, many others.
estetica masculina is the code name peculiar to gdl. this link might help. you'll have to register (free) to access this spanish language site. [url]http://sexxxyprovincia.forumfree.it/?t=65382742[/url] it reports the new lemarch spa [url]https://www.facebook.com/lemarchspa[/url] and comments on others.
check for street action daytime around cinco de mayo and gigantes (the casa just south on cinco de mayo) and let us know if the casa at gigantes #173 is still operating. thanks!
post or message me with specifics on your inexpensive hotel, please. i have an itch now for gdl.
i am staying at a small non-descript place called the hotel windsor one block from mexico. it is in a residential area about three blocks to centro magna mall in chapultepec and a block from hidalgo where the bus runs frequently to elcentro. my room is $350m. it's large but the hotel has seen better days though it is very, very quiet. not sure if anyone else is staying there as i have seen no other guests to date. there are three spas close by: mens paradise, oasis, and select behind the centro magna on lapaz.
i am leaving this hotel today and staying at a small pension called vila santa. this place is near the university and by my inspection appears to have younger student types staying there. doubt if it is gf but since i don't take chicas back to my hotel, it is not relevant. a private, large, and nicely decorated room with private bath goes for $500m.
i will consider your recommendations and especially intrigued by [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. have read a few negatives about jetset on this board but a taxi driver wanted to take me there.
[quote=juan carter; 1524456]
[quote=tomasb; 1524340]you seem to have it figured out. it has been years since i was last in gdl. these two were once my favorites, i don't know the current situation. they all charged about the same, too much, about 1, 000mn.
-spa eduars 2876-b golfo de mexico just a block and a half from the minerva circle, next to (and behind) the hot dog place. enter through the gate on the right.
[url]https://twitter.com/spaeduars[/url]
one of the most gorgeous of my lifetime was had there many years ago.
-jet set avenida méxico #2071 +52 33 3615 3451 easy to get to and you can get a shave and haircut.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], high class, many others.
estetica masculina is the code name peculiar to gdl. this link might help. you'll have to register (free) to access this spanish language site.
[url]http://sexxxyprovincia.forumfree.it/?t=65382742[/url]
it reports the new lemarch spa.
[url]https://www.facebook.com/lemarchspa[/url]
and comments on others.
check for street action daytime around cinco de mayo and gigantes (the casa just south on cinco de mayo) and let us know if the casa at gigantes #173 is still operating. thanks!
post or message me with specifics on your inexpensive hotel, please. i have an itch now for gdl.[/quote]
[quote=juan carter; 1524456]
[quote=tomasb; 1524340]there is also a nice coffee shop a half block from the windsor called chocolato on the corner of hidalgo so no need to walk the three blocks to starbucks in magno. lots of local non-pros appear to come through here as i have been hanging out this morning.
you seem to have it figured out. it has been years since i was last in gdl. these two were once my favorites, i don't know the current situation. they all charged about the same, too much, about 1, 000mn.
-spa eduars 2876-b golfo de mexico just a block and a half from the minerva circle, next to (and behind) the hot dog place. enter through the gate on the right.
[url]https://twitter.com/spaeduars[/url]
one of the most gorgeous of my lifetime was had there many years ago.
-jet set avenida méxico #2071 +52 33 3615 3451 easy to get to and you can get a shave and haircut.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], high class, many others.
estetica masculina is the code name peculiar to gdl. this link might help. you'll have to register (free) to access this spanish language site.
[url]http://sexxxyprovincia.forumfree.it/?t=65382742[/url]
it reports the new lemarch spa.
[url]https://www.facebook.com/lemarchspa[/url]
and comments on others.
check for street action daytime around cinco de mayo and gigantes (the casa just south on cinco de mayo) and let us know if the casa at gigantes #173 is still operating. thanks!
post or message me with specifics on your inexpensive hotel, please. i have an itch now for gdl.[/quote]
I went to Danny's on LaPaz last night as it is within walking distance of my hotel. The girls were not nearly as hot as the other places noted in my prior report. However, the lower prices reflected this difference. $450M for 45 minutes (about $35 USD) , $600m for an hour. I selected a younger girl about 20 with a pretty face and a bit of a paunch due to a recent baby. Really not much to distinguish one girl from the other as they all had the same type gordita bodies. She was ok but again no kissing or DATY allowed. Definite no GFE here either. Ironically, I found the rooms to be better and nicer than Oasis. She gave a better massage and the one hour included two pops so a much better deal financially than the other spas.
Afterwards, the lady who collected my money said they could offer all types of combo's and variety. For example, one girl for the first half hour with another girl joining in for second half hour etc. All reasonable prices but the problem are the girls are not on same level as the other places so depends on your budget.
slow day for me as recharging my engines and also trying to decide which club to hit next. so many clubs, so little time. but i think i will roll with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] as someone pm'd me with a ravishing report of his recent rendezvous there. the cost is the only daunting part. according to the other monger, it was $1400m or $104 at the current exchange rate so more than double when compared to danny's.
in answer to the inquiry: gigantes 173 had closed white metal door when i walked by around noon today. nobody was hanging in front and it looked abandoned, however, every other store space on street was occupied selling a myriad of goods so perhaps it does not open until the evening?
the street off independencia sud in el centro called huerto, which intersects madero, had at least 8 sw's in middle of day. huerto is a very short street bordered by electronic shops and short term hotels. not my thing so never inquired as to price etc. the girls, with the exception of one who looked to be a stunner, were on the hefty side.
stopped by luigi's as i was walking by. five chicas, price is $$470m for one hour or $35usd, three huge girls in their 30's, one pretty young thing who did not smile or acknowledge me, one facing a mirror brushing her hair and ignored me. passed on that though they are open on sunday from 10-6.
also, walked by griego on same street (lopez cotilla). this spa was noted on board before as poster was either amused or disappointed they did not offer anal. place seemed dumpy from outside plus they had a sign up looking for female help. not a good indication so let that one ride too.
will be saving my ducats for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or select.
first, a disclaimer as the word '[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]' appears to be an.
odd name for a massage place but it is not a spanish word.
that word would be 'violencia'.
for $50m i took a taxi from univ of guardalajara to check out this well regarded establishment. arrived at 4:30 on friday.
it does have a classy look and you can actually get a haircut here, which could also give you an idea of the talent as they parade by on the way to the viewing room. as has been reported the talent was quite good-no fatties or ugly girls but as usual mileage will vary. mainly 7 and 8's with quite a few with enhancements. there were about 12 to choose so cannot complain about selection. i selected barbara. a woman of about 30 with an exceptional body and attractive face who smiled at me in the lineup as did at least half of them so the decision was not easy.
an older lady directed me to the room, pointed out the shower, and then asked me for a tip, which i heard was standard practice here so i gave her $20m. i also coughed up the 1400m charge, which is slightly over $100 for services.
after a quick shower, my date arrived and after a perfunctory shower got down to business. basically, the standard here in gdl, no kissing, no daty, and next! it was just ok but let's face it with 12 chicas to choose it is the luck of the draw sometimes. i was under the incorrect impression that two times was included in that price. it does not include two times, at least she was adamant about that. she then set up the sauna for me, dressed, and had the audacity to ask for a tip. i told her no tip and it was the best feeling of the day. i left shortly thereafter and was at least glad i did not blow my wad too quickly.
don't think i will return as it is a bit far out of the center and many other places much closer to where i stay.
thanks for the great info on gdl.
i heard that girls from gdl are best looking women from mexico. but after reading your threads, gdl does not appeal to me. most importantly there is no gfe in your posts which pisses me off. seems the city has mps and lacks good strip clubs and pick up spots. it also seems rates are competitive and not cheap.
did you try any escorts? what about finding regular girls? is it friendly town? did you try any night clubs?
[quote=tomasb; 1526346]first, a disclaimer as the word '[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]' appears to be an.
odd name for a massage place but it is not a spanish word.
that word would be 'violencia'.
for $50m i took a taxi from univ of guardalajara to check out this well regarded establishment. arrived at 4:30 on friday.
it does have a classy look and you can actually get a haircut here, which could also give you an idea of the talent as they parade by on the way to the viewing room. as has been reported the talent was quite good-no fatties or ugly girls but as usual mileage will vary. mainly 7 and 8's with quite a few with enhancements. there were about 12 to choose so cannot complain about selection. i selected barbara. a woman of about 30 with an exceptional body and attractive face who smiled at me in the lineup as did at least half of them so the decision was not easy.
an older lady directed me to the room, pointed out the shower, and then asked me for a tip, which i heard was standard practice here so i gave her $20m. i also coughed up the 1400m charge, which is slightly over $100 for services.
after a quick shower, my date arrived and after a perfunctory shower got down to business. basically, the standard here in gdl, no kissing, no daty, and next! it was just ok but let's face it with 12 chicas to choose it is the luck of the draw sometimes. i was under the incorrect impression that two times was included in that price. it does not include two times, at least she was adamant about that. she then set up the sauna for me, dressed, and had the audacity to ask for a tip. i told her no tip and it was the best feeling of the day. i left shortly thereafter and was at least glad i did not blow my wad too quickly.
don't think i will return as it is a bit far out of the center and many other places much closer to where i stay.[/quote]
Hope to visit Guadalajara in a few months to check out the tequila factories and also relax. Does anybody have any information on this place:
Fabrica de bombones; phone 0443312207268.
Looks like some sort of outcall agency with some cute girls but kind of hard to tell if they are still in business and what the deal is. The other places seem like a good option but sometimes it is fun to get a girl to your hotel room.
Thanks!
In reply to your questions, I have not tried any strip clubs. A close reading of this forum indicates these are generally rip off clubs and not worth the cost. I have not tried escorts either. It is a very friendly and safe town especially considering the size. I suppose there are quite a few night clubs but cannot stand the noise, smoke, and long hours one has to endure. You are correct, it is not that cheap except the lower level MP's, which frequently mean gorditas are the only option.
I think the women are fairly attractive but passing through, I am not sure how much chance one has.
[QUOTE=Nsd1983; 1526363]Thanks for the great info on GDL.
I heard that girls from GDL are best looking women from mexico. But after reading your threads, GDL does not appeal to me. Most importantly there is no GFE in your posts which pisses me off. Seems the city has MPs and lacks good strip clubs and pick up spots. It also seems rates are competitive and not cheap.
Did you try any escorts? What about finding regular girls? Is it friendly town? Did you try any night clubs?[/QUOTE]
Picked up something at the Walmart today so since I was in area I walked by Meditarreneo. Unlike most of the MP's you can actually peak inside and I saw one insanely fat girl and one chubby young one. Keep Walking. Their hours, which are posted on front of building, are 10-9 on Monday to Sat. & 10-6 on Sunday. Most MP's are closed on Sunday.
May try the Trifecta at Danny's on Sunday for a pre SB party. LOL
[QUOTE=Tomasb; 1526615]In reply to your questions, I have not tried any strip clubs. A close reading of this forum indicates these are generally rip off clubs and not worth the cost. I have not tried escorts either. It is a very friendly and safe town especially considering the size. I suppose there are quite a few night clubs but cannot stand the noise, smoke, and long hours one has to endure. You are correct, it is not that cheap except the lower level MP's, which frequently mean gorditas are the only option.
I think the women are fairly attractive but passing through, I am not sure how much chance one has.[/QUOTE]There has to be a way to get these women. MP are not the places and neither strip clubs. There should be pick up spots may be near universities or websites. Mexico is poor and if we know our options, we can find a lot of them. Or else the city will be boring and we get out frustrated.
I was staying in a very nice hotel near El Centro for several days. I became friendly with the manager and asked one day if he could arrange or recommend an escort agency for an exclusive model type. He said that was doable and so a few hours later I opened my door to a fairly attractive girl though she was by no means a model. The session was for an hour with one pop for 1500mex or $115 USD.
The 22 year old girl, as so many others, had a three year old, which showed with her bumpy midsection but she provided relatively good service, allowed DATY, but no kissing with the exception of grandma kisses or pecks. She said her husband knew what's she was doing. Now that's an open marriage.
I realized that the manager had no idea what he was talking about as he called about an hour before her arrival and told me to put away everything of value in the safety deposit box so clearly he was not familar with the agency providing the girl. I never bothered to ask for the agency name as her phone rang constantly because I forgot to tell her to turn it off. Very annoying. Also, she liked my brand of condoms bought in Peru but manufactured in Malayasia called Jagr. I actually thought she had removed the condom during oral but she did not. However, She did remove my extra condom from the bed stand so maybe the managers initial suggestion was a good one.
Otherwise, I can recommend the hotel.
[QUOTE=Tomasb; 1546741]........
Otherwise, I can recommend the hotel.[/QUOTE]
Which was the hotel?
I cannot get it from you post
[QUOTE=Albert Punter; 1547212]Which was the hotel?
I cannot get it from you post[/QUOTE]Sent you a PM