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Hello FKK World Vistors,
As the first reports start to come in about this place, it seems likely that many top acts from other clubs will abandon their old workplaces, like Atlantis and BHH, in favour of FKKW.
Just wondering: Can anyone specify which "top acts" from these other clubs are currently working FKKW? Can anyone report specific sightings of known "Superstars" at FKK World?
Thanks,
Ortos
Visited last week with some friends. My impressions, in a nutshell:
FACILITIES:
Opulent building (converted from a mansion that once belonged to the owner of the nearby VOKO factory, which manufactures office furniture). Atmoshpere sterile, not terribly sexy.
Main lounge lit by natural lighting (windows, skylights) and very high-tech (flat-screen monitors, futuristic-looking bronze statues placed in corners). Dining room to the left, sliding-glass door leading outside to pools, sun decks, and cabins to the right. Bar behind you. Ladies' locker room and some party rooms at the far side.
Ventilation could be problematic during the colder months, when keeping the sliding glass doors open would not be an option.
Large indoor pool, jacuzzi, massage area, lounge with fireplace, and more party rooms on the lower level. Getting back to the upper level is difficult, as one has to go all the way outside and back through the sliding glass door or go up an out-of-the-way staircase that leads back to the entry and through the mens' locker and shower room.
Looked to be about a month away from a true grand opening, as the owners were still laying sod in the back yard and hadn't gotten around to marking the bathroom doors yet.
Parking not terribly convenient. VIP parking is available past the security gate, but everyone else needs to park in remote lots and take a shuttle to and from the main entrance.
PRICES:
Same as those for Atlantis (65E entry, 50E per session -- if you're lucky. More on that later.).
WOMEN:
Not many (maybe 20 at the time of our visit, Friday afternoon). They ranged from attractive to below average. Most covered up with towels, either partially or completely. Very few gave off any sex appeal whatsoever.
SERVICE:
Not impressive. One of our group got the "Aren't you going to come yet?" question at the end of his so-so service.
Another got reeled in by a super-aggressive Polish gal, well past her prime, who acted all hot and bothered in the lounge only to turn into a Nevada brothel worker inside the room. She asked for 50E for just a hand job and tried to charge extra for other activities. She looked at the wall the entire time she was servicing my friend and succeeded in his deciding to call things off early. Would you be interested in partying if you heard about an experience like that? It killed any desire I had to get laid in that place.
Only one of us had a decent session, but he'd known the gal from another club.
OVERALL:
Management seemed to be interested in our impressions of the club, but neither they nor the staff gave off much in the way of positive vibes.
They over-emphasized the decor at the expense of the talent and service. Who cares about flat-screen TV's and bronze statues when the talent is sub-par and the service is iffy at best? Club has potential but unless it gets a handle on these things Atlantis and Oase have nothing to worry about. I myself don't plan to return until I've read a good-sized number of posts all claiming that FKK-World has turned it around.
Arnie,
Thanks buddy for the nice writeup.Do you have the address of FKK world? How Far is it from Frankfurt?
Thanks for thr answer.
[url]http://www.kaleus-clubindex.de/kaleu/english/detail-en.php?area=Deutschland&file_name=FKK-World[/url]
It's about one hour of driving from Fankfurt (to the north).
cu
kaleu
here is a copy of my report from the opening of fkk world.
the current reports about the place (german boards) are mixed. people are still blown away by the facilities and the effort of the club bosses to provide a nice environment, but the reports about the quantitiy and quality of the girls are still iffy. i am not heading back ther until i hear a lot of positive things.
sorry, i thought there was a seperate wold section. i will suggest it to jackson.
quick report world:
location: takes about an hour from frankfurt, up the a5 then take the pohlheim exit (a little after the junction with the a45, but stay on the a5), then you take a right and a left and then pretty much head straight. look on the page for directions.
this seems like an old rich guys house, it is located on a wooded hill on the outskirts of town. there is a large sign on the road, but otherwise you don't see anything. you park across the street in a huge parking lot and a shuttle bus (covered in ads for the place like a hertz shuttle at a us airport) takes you up to the club. the bus drivers and much of the help tend to be huge tattooed guys, but really friendly and looking for you to have a good time.
yesterday was free entry sothe place was relatively crowded, i would say about 200 men at the peek, but it didn't feel that crowded...this place is big.
prices: same as oase...50€ session, extras at the girls discretion.
there were about 50 women there as best i could judge. there were 4 or 5 top acts who migrated from oase or atlantis, and since all the men were regular customers from there (except for the freebie lookie loo's) those top acts were fully booked. most of the other girls seemed like second tier girls who weren't making enough money in their current locations and thought they would give it a try. the very bright nature of this club doesn't do many of these women any favours...the darker the better! suffice it to say i was not blown away. at some of my favourite clubs they only have 8-12 girls, but there are just as many that i want to screw as here with 50.
to the men: lot's of known regular customers of the other clubs who took advantage of the free entry to take a look. also lots of people we will probably never again see in a club. they advertised the opening on the radio, mentioning the free entry aspect. anyone who has ever been curious came by. a lot of them had no intention of visiting a room, just came to take a peek. the only problem with this is that these people tended to stand outside rooms where action was taking place and try and sneek a look past the curtain. a lot of 18-22 year olds came as groups. these people will not be back, and only customers that leave money with the girls are important for a club.
this place was too big for my taste. i really didn't like the upstairs meeting room, it was way too bright and antiseptic for my taste. it also did not promote a brothely atmosphere, which i like. the theatre was better with some comfortable couches. the dining room had an ample buffet which was continually refilled. the changing room was a little cramped, but ok. i didn't like the showers. they are too close to each other (i don't like the feel of another soapy guy against my body) and have that damn automatic shut off set for 30 seconds. no one likes these, why do they always install them (maybe enviro-laws?) the skimped a bit on the towels as well, seemed like institutional towels, not soft and fluffy like at fantasyland.
downstairs the pool and hot tub were cold, but i am sure that is a problem they will fix. there seems to be a lack of bathroom facilities (one toilet downstairs is all). the saunas were new and nice, somewhat smaller than at oase. if i head back here i think the old library room between the pool and outside will probably be my favourite area. here it is a bit darker and has a more gentlemans club atmosphere. the outdoor area seems quite nice, with the same sort of set-up as oase.
generally the set up is good, the club is big and can hold a lot of people without feeling too crowded. the owners are open to suggestions and i assume they will make improvements when a number of customers demand it. i think they will look for a way to make the entry hall darker, it really reminds me of the frankfurt airport check-in hall, not the most erotic atmosphere. a bit of couch action would have really improved the atmosphere.
supposedly they offered the women free entry yesterday as well, so a lot of girls came who are not really fkk calibre. 'seems like some eros-center girls thought they would give it a shot. hopefully the girl situation will improve. i also have to say the girls were all german and eastern european, nothing for dark-meat fans, no petit asians (one fat one), not even a visible turk. they need to do more to get a better variety of women. that is what makes fkk's so special, that you have access to a number of nationalities.
it will be at least 4 or 5 weeks until i try this place again, but i will have to see some good reports.
if you are in the area this weekend and they are still offering the free entry (call ahead) then it is worth checking out. i am glad that i didn't pay 65€ entry, then i might have been dissappointed. today i will head to my tried and true haunt of wildenrath convinced that there are more women among the 15 that appeal to me than at world among 50.
peter
Any new reviews? Will be in area next week, but won't waste my time if situation hasn't improved, plenty of other mind-boggling options.
thanks
At the moment still mixed reviews with a positive trend. It seems that the people who run the club are doing their best to fix any problems that might exist. The only thing that they have not gotten under control is the ladies. There are definitively some Top Acts there, but there are still some sub par girls that are doing damage. The management has a good repuation among the girls, which might mean that they are too lax. Establishing stricter club standards and making sure that the girls aren't trying to establish their own price structure might be good.
You are right, the choices are vast, but all the clubs are getting mixed reviews at the moment. Atlantis is supposedly not what it used to be (Haven't been there in over a year) with far fewer ladies because of far fewer men. The downturn in the economy here is quite apparent. At the moment I am also seeing absolutely no news about Oase.
Deciding which club in the Frankfurt area to visit is all a question of where you are headed, how interested you are in seeing something new, how much time you have and with what sort of vehicle you are travelling.
World has the best facilities, followed by Oase followed by Atlantis (way behind). World has an indoor and an outdoor pool, whilrpools, saunas and a huge garden. Oase is similar, just a bit smaller, atlantis has a pool outside, but you can really tell that it is in an industrial area, the others are rebuilt mansions.
Which one has the best women is much tougher to rank. There are plenty of decent women at each club, enough for any man I know. Flops are possible everywhere just as tops are. Take a chance, look for a scout or have a sense of exploration.
If you have already been to Atlantis or Oase I would head to World, just for the comparison.
I know this doesn't really help, but each club has its own charm.
Peter
Peter, Thanks, haven't seen any new reports here and the ones on the german boards have been mixed - mostly as you wrote about mixed girl quality and independent price setting. I have been to Oase twice in the last month and can't find anything to suggest that it's not as good as before. I agree about ATL though.
Looks like I'll head back there again this week unless I find some better reports about WORLD.
I've just returned from three visits to FKK-World. My impressions of the club seem to vary from many of the previous posters on this page, since I found the club to be very good and the girl situation steadily improving. I have previously been a regular at both Oase and Atlantis, and I now am happy to add FKK-W to the list, making a kind of "Golden Triangle."
Between 22/6 and 28/6 I visited FKK-W three times. During my first visit, I was initially pleased at how easy it was to find the club, following the directions on the club's website. Then I was pleasantly surprised, when I approached the entrance and was greeted by another male guest who was waiting by the entrance and told me to wait with him until a third arrived. It seems that if you enter as a three-some, your 3-man party is only charged entrance fees for two guests. 3 enter, 2 pay. So we all split the 2x65E fee between us. Good deal!
The facilities and lay out are very fine. I particularly liked the downstairs lounge/bar adjacent to the indoor pool. During daylight hours, I did not care for the upstairs "main" bar or "Wintergarden." It is too brightly lit and, as another poster on another board deftly pointed out, it does remind one of "Frankfurt Airport Check-in Desk."
The outdoor areas are superb, with lots of space to wander around and get really private if you wish.
One negative to the layout is that it is difficult to keep track of a particlar girl's comings and goings, which is something Atlantis and even Oase is better suited to.
The Girl situation at World is a problematic issue, but one that will steadily improve. Even within the week that I was there, I saw improvements take place! It's a two-way street, so to speak. Girls will come work the club when and if the club attracts enough male customers. Male customers will frequent the club when and if enough good girls start working.
The girl line-up at World averages out at about 30 per day. Immediatley I noticed bodies and faces familier from Atlantis and Oase. Many girls come from the cadre of second-tier Atlantis and Oase girls. But I did spot some near top-acts "checking-out" the club to assess if it would become their "home club." Valentina, the blonde-haired Russian-speaking girl from Atlantis is now one of the main acts at World. I spotted a few 2nd-tier Russian, Polish and Romanian girls from Atlantis too who seem to make World there main nesting spot. Two nights ago --Saturday-- I saw the tall, blonde Atlantis girl, Margot(?), with tatoo across tail-bone working World. She looked as if this was her first day at World and was trying to assess if it was her sort of club.
One thing that I noticed to my pleasure is that there were several very young east European babes, 21-22.
One thing clear: Like Oase and Atlantis, World does recieve cute, young east European free-lance girls who work the club for a week or so in order to get quick cash infusion. I had three sessions with a super hot Hungarian babe, Monika, a dirty-blonde haired super body sweetheart. We really hit it off and she GFE'd me all the way. Deep kissing and real fantasy sex: whatever I wanted. She left yesterday and said she might come back in a few weeks. She told me how bad things were on the work front at home --she's in the restaurant business in Hungary-- and how she just came up here to get some quick cash! Man, she was so untainted and genuine, the sex was just so spontaneously good.
Overall, I found the girl line-up at World, though not as good as Oase or Atlantis, is fast aproaching the level at the other clubs. Out of 30-odd girls, there were at least 7 to 10 that were on my to-do list. The overall atmosphere is very, very good, I found. Very mellow and laid back. The kind of place it would be a joy to spend 8 -12 hours in. That's tough to do at Atlantis because everything is so "in-your-face."
My guess is that once World secures steady male guests, more and more girls will come here to work. On all my visits I found the parking lots at World fairly croweded with cars. Although I went on weekend nights, I found it busy but not at all croweded.
Driving to World from central Frankfurt is only about 20 minutes further than driving to Oase or Atlantis. One night I left world at 10PM and was walking into Atlantis at 10.30PM same night. Just a hop and a skip away, down the A45.
Otros,
The two Amazonians of Atlantis are Margot and Mercedes. Margot has a tatoo of Medusa on her shoulder blade. Mercedes has a tailbone tatoo. Margot is a little shorter than Mercedes who is over six feet tall. Both are top notch but in different ways. Margot will treat you like a long lost boyfriend. With Mercedes, you'll think you're with a porno queen both from how she looks and the sex. Mercedes will do anal while Margot will not. You can't lose with either one but from you're description I'd say that Mercedes and not Margot is now at FKKW.
Orto,
Great report! I've been waiting for one of the professional critics to send an updated report. Sounds like World is getting its act together and we need to start patronizing it to spur it to even greater things.
You mentioned the E.Europeans. Can you tell us also about the Spanish- speaking, Asian, Mediterranean, African contingents?
Thanks.
Iseeu,
Here are the nationalities, ethnic affiliations of the girls I saw at FKK-World last week: Polish, Czech, Russian, Hungarian, Bulagarian, Romanian, and of course, German. Note some of the Russians may have come from Ukraine and/or Moldavia. I did notice one Asian girl (Thai?), but only one. I saw nothing Latin or African.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ortos
[i]I've just returned from three visits to FKK-World. My impressions of the club seem to vary from many of the previous posters on this page, since I found the club to be very good and the girl situation steadily improving.
[/i][/QUOTE]
After reading your report it seems to be the exact same as previous posters... mixed. Your impression of the facilities is the exact same and you say the woman situation is second Tier ATL or Oase, but steadily improving. I looked back and haven't seen any posts that are that varying.
Peter
Peter,
Let me clarify what I meant to say, if, for some reason, i phrased it wrongly:
The club got off to a shakey start. Maybe the free-entrance opening day thing, back-fired a bit. As you yourself deftly point out, the club was over run with all sorts of types that would not be at such a club under normal circumstances, i.e. 65E entrance fee, et.
My point is: Now, a month or so after opening, they are slowly, slowly getting their act together at FKK-World. The environment in the club is now, in my opinion, very, very good (except, if you'll forgive me, in the Frankfurt Airport Check-in Area -- I love that one, Peter!). The girl situation now seems to me somewhat imporved over what you described a month ago. While I did mention second-tier girls from Atlantis and Oase, I did not mean to imply that every girl in the club is second tier. Indeed, not, good fellow!
I saw several first tier types who are either visiting east-european free lancers, or visiting top acts from other clubs "checking the place out."
I believe that reports about World over, say, the past 10 days/2 weeks vary vastly from those first-week reports.
Anyway the main point is: I give it a clear thumbs up.
Hope this clarifys...
Ortos
Went to FKK-World on a Thursday. It was just great. The place is huge and beautiful especially during a sunny and hot day. There very few people and the atmosphere was very relaxed. At the beginning I was disappointed by the girls´choice. I arrived at 1 pm and there were only 10 girls for broadly 10 men and most of them were less pretty than those seen at Atlantis and mostly Eastern European looking, i.e. blond, slim and very young. However there were also a couple of black girls and an Asian who was my first shot. She is from indonesia, called Valeria, 20 yr old, small, big boobs, lovely bottom and thick lips. She was very good in bed, good kiss, good bbbj, great fuck, full of energy, she is very athletic. Vote for performance : 8 (scale 1 to 10). I then had a Russina girl called Tatiana, she is 1.70 m, long dark blod hair, beautiful green eyes, a bit fat, large hips, she says she is 24 but I think she is younger. She was amazing! One of my best paid fuck ever. A 10, and therefore I extended the session to one hour. She did everything a man can want in a standard session, and she kissed with such an enthusiasm which was unbelievable, and she always laughed.
I then had a Lithuanian called Laura, who approcached me on the couch and then convinced me to try her. She is a very interesting person, well educated and pretty business-minded (but not when in bed). Blonde, blue eyes, slim, not a great beauty but very fascinating. She also was great in bed, full of energy, great bbbj, fuck, french kiss. Vote: 9.
The last one was a Polish red-haired girl called Luciana. She is very small and thin, with a beautiful and horny face. She has huge soft nipples and a beautiful pussy. Vote: 8.
Generally speaking I have the impression that these Eastern European girls like fucking, and even though they´re not all beautiful, their performance is remarkable. After having tried Atlantis, Oase and World in three consecutive days, I decided to go back to World as there are other girls there whom I would have liked to try as they were suggested by a couple of German guys I met there who have stopped going to Atlantis and Oase after World opened. Guys, if you like large outdoor space, free food all day long, and GFE´s go to World!
finally I visited WORLD on wed 9th
the facilities are simply perfect: a huge garden, a lot of rooms, pools, saunas and so on
Atlantis can't be compared, is too small in front of World
Oase might be a smaller copy but World is a lot better
but...who cares about that?
not me, for sure
about the girls...even a huge number makes a place so big looks like a desert
the management has to consider it and make a different policy to increase the number
this causes an atmosphere too lazy
anyway I tested 3 girls
Tatiana (RU), tall, cute as a face with a little overweight body provides a great GFE and is a lot on demand
Laura (IT) has a perfect body (big boobs) and a great technique but looked me a little rushy
Claudia (ROM) is a real gem
I have had with her a double session that took about 3 hours considering the couch action, a lot of chatting and so on
If I didn't met Sara at Oase the day after I should say Claudia is the best I've met
If you like a tender, passionate, smart and nice person, she is the girl
more a girlfirend prospect than a ...
last but not least, the barbecue meal is excellent and you can find fresh food all day long
Second consecutive visit to World. Friday had possibly 10 more girls than Thursday (around 35 vs 25). I agree with GabrielPontello: this place is huge and would need 70-80 girls to seem full.
Anyway I tried again Tatiana from Russia and she confirmed her great GFE performance, unforgettable. She also made me a big discount, but I had to insist: 70 euros for 1 hour (however, it was pretty early and few men were around at that time: 1:30 pm). Another 10 for Tatiana!
I then tried Celine, one of the two black girls I saw at World. She is from Kenya, has two nice boobs, small bottoms, pretty thin, face ok, very nice person. Good performance overall but she spits after kissing and blowing. Vote 7.5.
I then approached the other black girl, with long black hair and small boobs. She told me she is from South-Africa, but the day before had told other guys she was from Jamaica. Anyway she was the only one who said she would start from "100 euros for nearly an hour" and that if I had chosen the 50 euros option she wouldn´t have been as good as she can, therefore I went away. I let you draw your own conclusions, considering that none of the girls I had at World had ever discussed the 50 euro fare.
I then had Anita, a very thin and young russian blond girl. She was ok, she kisses little, gave me a good bbbj, and had a standard fuck, all in around 20 mn. Vote: 6.5.
Most of the Russian girls there (and there are many) look pretty sad and are often together in large groups making it not easy to approcah them.
How much would a cab cost from Frankfurt ,Main Station to FKK World. To Atlantis I normaly pay between 55-60 Euro one way.
Thanks.
you're right, flower
I saw anita and her friends frequently chatting in a bored way on the couches in the wintergarden
that makes them less approchable
I met tatiana walking outside while she was studying a german dictionary (I offered myself as a teacher though I don't speak any german...)
Laura approached me when she heard me speaking in my native language about how disgusting was a rice+strawberry meal combination
claudia called me using my nationality as a name and I asked her how she could know that
I'm telling you that just because usually the girls who hang around in a bored way provide a poor service, in my experience
those one who try to establish a relationship offer a better performance
@Body
I would guess the cab fare to be 80-100€. Rent a car, it is much cheaper.
@Flower:
that is the worst review of Luciana that I have ever read. On the largest german forum she was rated the number 3 performance working girl in Germany (Angelique at Atlantis was number 1, Miriam who changes clubs a lot but is at Oase, F35, World or ATL is #2).
In the past I have been blown away by Luciana's service, it rates an 11 if you have only screwed mortals in the past.
Peter
Peter, how interesting is this comparison with the German-language forums!!! I didn't know there were such a Germany-wide ranking for the girls.
If you had mentioned these girls before I would have tried to have sex with them, but now I am back to Italy. Too bad.
When giving vote to Luciana I was just making comparisons with the other girls I had had in those days in these FKK clubs. I have nothing against her, so my assesment was neutral and without hidden interests. During my FKK tour there were two girls who were much better than her, Tatiana in World, and Sella in Atlantis, and another one who was better than her, Laura at World, while some were broadly at her same level, with several below Luciana's level. I think these girls can have volatile performances. That night Luciana hadn't had anyone for hours and maybe at 1:30 am she was already tired or annoyed. Furthermore, we couldn't communicate as she doesn't speak any of the languages I know and vice versa, and this also may have not helped to establish a perfect feeling.
Last but not least, Germans and I have different preferences. Most of the Germans I spoke with while in the FKK's expressed preference for girls whom I didn't like or I liked little, the only girl I had after a suggestion by a German guy (who I am sure said it in total innocence) was among the worst I had had, so everything is relative.
Peter
Peter ,
Thanks for the Info on the taxi fare . I am an Asian and we drive in a very different way... .... lol and I haven't driven a car in Europe for almost 3 years so a bit rusted , thus I am more comfortable with a Cab.
Your info about the best rated working girls were good.As far a Miriam is concerned , is she Mirian or Miriam ? I had Mirian in ATL she was from Czech and she was an absolute GFE.. I have reported the same in Atlantis Section. If she is the same , she told me ,soon she and her friend MIGHT start working from an appartment and the details of the same can be found in the German Daily where they have advertisements of this kind(she told me the name of the daily , but I don't remember).
Miriam is polish.
Driving in Germany is easy, should be as there are no ch*nks on the roads ;^P
Really, if you rent a car with navigation you will be much better off. Otherwise take a train closer to the club and cab the last bit. It will save you a fortune.
Peter
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BodyRockerForU
[i]Thanks for the Info on the taxi fare . I am an Asian and we drive in a very different way... .... lol and I haven't driven a car in Europe for almost 3 years so a bit rusted , thus I am more comfortable with a Cab. [/i][/QUOTE]Haha! I'm also Asian. When I was visiting my favorite clubs in May, I decided to take a side trip to Czech. I was on a 2 lane country road parallel to E55 from Dresden to Prague. I was gonna turn left onto a dirt road to turn the car around when a bozo came from behind me and decided he can pass me on my left b4 I initiated the turn. He was wrong! I punted him right into a 5 foot high ditch!
We were all fine, the police correctly determined it was his fault, but I'm afraid I contributed to perpetuating a worldwide stereotype.
driving is easy but the traffic is very intense and every few kms. there are works in progress and long, long queues
beside that i didn't find any detailed map able to show you all the small towns (and often fkk's club are located in these areas)
right yesterday i received a fine for a +9kmh overspeed (34,80 euros) in the town of altenstadt
probably i was anxious to get there...
gabriel, map24.de takes you everywhere in germany ( and most of the rest of Europe).
Body - taxi is definitely least sensible solution and most expensive. Wouldn't you rather have 2 additional sessions with hot women for the money you can save. german highway system is best in the world, easily accessible and a joy to drive on except when there's construction (very often) work.
In addition to saving money by self-driving in a hired car, the advantages of freedom to come and go as you wish, and even transfer your activities to another area FKK club, cannot be over-stated.
As for the traffic: It can be a bit annoying, as always, especially when you in an impulsive rush to get to the club and ladies, etc. However, on balance the traffic isn't that bad! Driving to FKK World from Frankfurt via A5, there is a "stau" just as you get on near Frankfurt. But you can avoid alot of the serious aggrivation, simply by traveling off of peak hours, ie. avoid rush hour!
I've always rented a car because the freedom to choose the destination, the time and so on in my opinion is as important as the reason to be there
I was just telling that during the day the traffic is terrible and the works in progress don't help
last wednesday it tooked about 3 hours driving from frankfurt hahn to world and I can assure you I'm not a slow driver and I know quite well the directions...
Point taken, paesono.
I still suggest that same "3-hour drive" from Hahn airport to Wolrld would have taken signficantly less time if you were driving at, say, 20.00 or 21.00...no?
I spent 8 hours there this weekend and I agree that this is a veryt good place. The facility beats every FKK club. I spoke to a lot of people and girls there and the only thing this club is a little more time to built up a reputation.
Maybe the location is a little too far from Frankfurt. Atlantis and Oase is after all not more than a 20-30 minute drive, but FKK World is about 1 hour.
My impression was that is was most Russian, Hungarian and East-European girls there. It was definitly worth a visit, but it can not beat the quality of the girls you will meet on a late friday or Saturday at Atlantis
Ronnie,
I don't know how you drive, but each of the three times I visited World, starting from central Frankfurt, I always made the drive in well less than an hour, even with a slight traffic problem on one occassion. It is more like 45-minutes from Frankfurt.
Put the pedal to the metal, boy. You'll get there in under an hour easy!
Went to FKK World last Monday, arrived 8pm
It had been very hot that day, place was quiet. About 20 girls and 12 guys, if that.
The facilities were very good, and clean. Entrance 65 euros, not cheap. There looked like there was food buffet available all night but I didn't take advantage.
I went with a cute little Lithuanian blonde, don't remember her name. She was nice, GFE, kissing, full 1/2 hour.
Then went with a Hungarian Claudia, tan skin and very pretty. A good experience with her too, GFE and letting me enjoy the experience as I wanted.
This place was good, but I would recommend not going on a Monday (according to one of the girls, Sunday was very busy).
You can save on the entrance fee by hooking up with 2 other guys in the parking lot. If you come in as a group of 3 only 2 pay, this means that you can get in for 43,34€.
Weekends are popular in world with a lot of regular guests.
Peter
FKK World, August 23, Mallorca Party
Finally made it to FKK World and it has without a doubt the best facilities of any Frankfurt area club. Unfortunately, the same can not be said of the women working there. The club was easy to find. It is so well lighted that once you are near Garbenteich, the club lights up the horizon like a baseball stadium. From the parking lot to the club was only a few minutes walk along a path. At the reception area there was a younger woman behind the desk and a departing customer who was in a heated discussion with an older women (probably the "housemother" of the club, similar to Pia at Atlantis). I don't speak German but the man said "Atlantis" several times and I'm sure he was comparing World to Atlantis. The argument ended abruptly when one of the "Hells Angels" types referred to in other posts entered the room and the man left. I want to make clear that the customer was becoming ever louder and gesticulating violently just in front of this woman's face. The security man was being prudent by entering the room, not trying to intimidate anyone. The younger woman behind the desk spoke English well and asked if I've ever been there before. When I told her I hadn't, she explained the price structure of the club vis-a-vis the woman and it is the same as Oase or Atlantis. While this was going on, the door to the locker room opened and Mercedes walked in, grabbed a towel and went back in the locker room. For those who don't know, Mercedes is a six foot one inch tall Amazonian Goddess who, in addition to being an analleibhaberin, is a very friendly person and always a good time in the room. She used to work at Atlantis. I took a shower and entered the club in search of Mercedes. The locker room leads directly into the main room which has a bar. This was a so called party night so i don't know if it is always like this but they had a very professional sound system playing very, very LOUD music. This is where things get strange. The vast majority of the women were like zombies who wished they were somewhere else. There was very little interaction between anyone. Mercedes was in the adjacent buffet area having dinner with two men so I waited at the bar to see if she would be free soon. After eating she went with one of the men and apparently the other man was next so she would be busy for a while. I went to the buffet room as well as much to get away from the music as to get something to eat. This whole time, I had a good view of the small locker area where the women are paid. In close to an hour, only a handful of transactions took place. On a Saturday night at Oase or Atlantis, in the same time frame, many more would happen. After eating, I went exploring. This place is huge. Lower level with an indoor swimming pool, sauna, steam bath, second bar, Eurosport rather than porno by the second bar, etc. Outside, another swimming pool, a pond, and huts. The money required to acquire and equip this place must have been huge. While checking out the facilities, I was also keeping an eye out for the ladies. There were quite a few women about but not the 100+ advertised for the party night. They also claim they are 25 minutes from Frankfurt which may be true for Michael Schumaker, but not for most. In the end, I was there for a little over two hours and it was getting late so I left without going with anyone. I'll admit i'm picky, but I'm not that picky. The woman who looked good all looked as if they had been there since 10 am. The next time I go (and yes, I will be going again as I think this place is going through teething pains--they will either get better or go out of business) I'll go in the afternoon to get a look at the day shift as well as the night shift when everyone, including me, will be a little fresher.
FKK World is a good place - but not the best in Frankfurt. The facilities are the best no doubt, but the women (I've been 4 times) are not on par with Atlantis or Oasis. What FKK World has going for it is space and facilities. I agree with Fats that its probably going through teething pains - but still isn't worth the drive. Yet.
I've had Maya, a late 20ish Russian gal. Great BBBJ and very enthusiastic kisser. She has a nice bodyn short hair and is shaved. Most definetly recommended.
I've also had a nice Turkish gal, don't remember the name. Shoulder lenght brown hair nice body, smallish breasts, but very good and seemed to enjoy the whole experiene. Good GFE.
The other girl I've had is a Bulgarian gal, blond who usually hangs out with a friend in the front room. She seems a little to zealous in her work - a little to fake for me. Her friend is cute too. Her friend is from Turkey.
All in all its better than FKK 35 or Paradis, but I'd put the girl factor behind Oasis (#2) and Atlantis (#1).
I just spent 2 days in FKK-world, the second day being the day of the Roemerforum party on Saturday September 20.
1. As many mentionned before, the club's facilities are second to none: a former villa from a german millionnaire, 2 swimming pools, 2 saunas, all day buffet, very large garden. It's much better than Oase and Atlantis.
2. As far as the ladies are concerned, I found the asset quality on par with Oase and Atlantis; but unlike PHG, Atlantis or Oase a couple of ladies turned me down when I invited them to join me in a room. I was a bit surprised by this behaviour. The same thing happened to a couple of Dutch friends.
3. Ladies recommendations : there are 2 polish superstars :
Lucy: 1M65, red curly hair, very thin, small breast, striking grey/blue eyes. good bbj and excellent power/deep fucking.
Lila: 1M65, normal posture, short blond hair, wears glasses with black frames. Lila has not the most smily face but once in the room she was one of the best fuck of 2003. outstanding bbj with deep-throat and super fucking.
I had also a shot with Anastasia, a Czech lady, a body like a top-model, 1M70, blond hair. She has one of the best body in the business, however once in the room she does not like to blow that much and after 10 minutes of fucking she wants to make a pause. A bit disappointing.
On Friday Sept 19, there were about 30 ladies and (at the same time) 40 men.
Saturday was awful : 20 to 25 ladies and 200 men.
I will come back for the Polish stars.
i couldn’t understand why some german forums had good reports about world and wsg experience was so much less positive. during my recent four day leisure trip to germany i arranged to spend two at world and atlantis.
world is wonderful. it may not be everybody’s cup of tea but it suits me perfectly (and i’m talking as someone who also went to beverly, cocoon, and sundry other places – more reports to follow as i get time)
how to get there – i think a car is essential for world. (i guess one could travel to giessen by train and then get taxis, but german taxis are very expensive). it’s a 1hour 45 minute easy drive (140kmh and keeping to speed limits) form dusseldorf airport – provided you time it to miss the permanent jams round cologne (otherwise it could easily be up to 2hour 45). from frankfurt it’s only 25 minutes furhter than atlantis
the best way to describe it is in comparison to atlantis (which i have been to about six times), because although they sound as if they should be the same they are in fact very different.
world is huge, on two floors – in total about 3 or 4 times the size of atlantis. similar facilities but of a slightly higher standard. the entrance price is the same (65e) but you get all day food included (not 5* but solid german food) – so it’s much easier to relax and eat than in atlantis. because of it’s size it has a more interesting atmosphere. it doesn’t have the buzz that atlantis has – but if you’re there for more than a couple of hours it make up for the lack of buzz by the much more interesting atmosphere. the girls are much more relaxed, and tend to see it as a club for themeselves as well – breakfasting, lunching etc there and talking in small groups. above all they are friendlier than atlantis – they are much more willing to spend lots of time talking to the men – i saw on several occasions girls talking for up to an hour and not going to rooms at the end (i know this happens to a degree at atlantis but much less so). the girls will act however they feel happy – some resting, some dancing, some chatting. what else? – the service staff are actually friendly, helpful and also get on well with the girls – very different to atlantis. and the lighting is better than atlantis so you can see what you are getting. unlike atlantis there was no hint of it being mechanical and no attempt was made to short-change on the time
the upshot of all this is that the girls are more likely to be ready for genuine sex. half of the ones i paid had orgasms – absolutely no faking (the real orgasms require different breathing patterns and more effort from the girls than fake ones). another one may have been faking. generally they made it clear that they were wanted to be treatedas people and have real sex not just the “wham bam thank you mam” maybe it’’s a good idea to get to be the first client of the day with many of them. all the girls (nearly) seem to like very extensive french on them for starters
i saw about 6 girls the first day. the age was a bit younger than atlantis. the girls are generally slightly less “fuck me” than atlantis if you like plastic tits, platinum blonde and long legs (which i do). but there were lots of slim, natural girls – and once i got my eye in this meant i would give the girls a slightly higher rating than atlantis – but that’s all a matter of personal taste
so what’s the downside of this paradise. well, as it’s so huge and the number of girls was about thirty, it occasionally felt a bit deserted as the night wore on. unlike atlantis it doesn’t seem to get more buzzy as the night goes on – in fact the reverse – by 12.00 the number of girls was falling rapidly. i wonder whether or not the club can keep going – i think it was intended to have about 80 girls. the number of clients was only about 25/30 at any one time (the girl said it was unusually quiet). the other downside is that the price for anal is 150e on top of the normal 50e! extortionate. also there appears to be no significant couch action (except in the cinema which has huge six foot long sofas)
a brief resume of the girls i paid. on top of this there were several others who i didn’t get to – one or two were really good looking. i’m not sure what the turnover of girls is but it’s intended to give a picture - i've not gone into details about the sessions in case they don't want them spread
1. german from dortmund, previously at atlantis, ebhanced tits, sex on couch in cinema. very friendly but little english.
2. german girl, jamaican/german parentage. about 20, very very slim and slight. absolutely stunning. long talk before going to room – more than willing to engage in real sex. arranged to meet her again but something went wrong. my only regret of the trip
3. german girl, afghan/german parentage. 21, on holiday from her main job and only at world for fun and money. took that as a cue that she wanted an enjoyable time. not the prettiest but slim with large natural tits. spoke english – a bit shy, very nice
4. moldavian girl – trained a teacher,21, in world periodically to make money. physically great, with a face which really was sexy when fucking. very slim with large natural tits and long legs. i went back to see her again. very friendly
5. german girl – ghanain parents. very black, very slim (with decent tits and nice bum), about 23?. spoke english, sex in cinema. good fun
6. lithuanian girl – more tarty than others – more make-up, and wearing holdups. about 27?. very active and engaged. spoke english
7. rumanian girl (rumanian. italian parentage). very slim, no tits, large nipples. spoke english – she chatted for over an hour before we went to the room, telling me about the club and the background of some of the other girls. she herself had only been in the business three weeks at the suggestion of a family friend in frankfurt
all in all a nicer bunch of attractive girls i've never come across!
in between i went to atlantis just to bear out my comparisons, atlantis was a lot more pushy, it was too dark to see the girls properly, and felt cramped. generally the girls were less attractive (slightly). however it was made up for by the arrival of a six-foot slim blonde with fantastic eye and lip make up. from lithuania – very friendly and did anal (so-so) for an extra 100e. i think she came. she kissed. a good experience, but not as much real contact as at world (or indeed cocoon, wuppertal on which i will report). i left as i didn’t fancy any other girls. to be fair this was about 15.00 and i know from past experience that atlantis evening shift often has some good-lookers (including the excellent cindy who is very friendly, sexy, busty and relaxed despite being very popular). so i went back to world again. my first impression on entering world again was that it was a let-down – but you just need to give it ten minutes to take it in – it’s not in your face
anyway - i highly recommend giving it a try. if you don’t like it you’re only 30 mins from atlantis so you can go there. for my money it’s world by a long chalk unless you just want a quick two hour visit. for more genuine sex (gf6) try world. at least that was my experience
Greatt report Shiatsu!
I am Planning my first trip, and would like to get a few FKKs in.
How do you get to World from Frankfurt?
Thanks.
badass
by train – you can get details from bahn.de (there is an english version) – enter “pohlheim” it’s about an hour (fast train) to giessen, from where you could get a taxi, about 5miles/8 kilometers, or get a connecting train to garbenteich.
i drove from dusseldorf so didn’t go from frankfurt. from frankfurt airport the best way is to use the a5 (towards giessen) to junction 11 (gambacher kreuz) before giessen, changing to the a45 (towards hanau) for 2 kilometers, coming off at junction 36 (munzenberg).
from there it is easy (but the directions may sound complicated).
· take the 488 towards lich,
· after 2 km turn left (signposted pohlheim),
· after 2km turn right through pohlheim- dorf gull (30km speed limit through village),
· after i think less than 3km turn left about 700 metres after going under motorway, just as the raod straightens from a right bend (if you miss it there is another turn at a crosroads 100 metres on, and if you miss that turn left at the t junction 500 metres further on) and then turn left again (steinbecher str), left again (alter weg) and left at thee next t-junction and onnce you get to level crossing follow instructions below
· if you do either of the first two turnings than you simply turn left again, go over the level crossing and after about 700/800 metres turn left and world is on the right after another 300 or so metres – try to use car park 2 and not the one with an (alleged) shuttle bus
it is worth getting a street map of giesen area then if you do get lost it is easy to find (i used). as long as the map covers pohlheim in you should (if it’s got schiffenbergstr in pohlheim in then it covers the right area.
there is a arrival map you can print off from the world website, or you could get the address of world and put it in (say) maporama. the address has umlauts in so, with my non-german, keyboard i can’t write the address properly – gruninger weg (i think).
if you do go then i hope it works out for you. if you see the jamaican girl – beaded hair, pierced navel, black (actually caribbean brown rather than west african ebony black), very very slim, practically no breasts, about 160cm tall in shoes. then i’d appreciate it if you could tell her that the englishman waited and waited but there appears to have been a misunderstanding (she probably won’t remember but it’ll give a different opening line if nothing else!) thanks
Thanks Shiatsu, nice report.
An extra detail for those arriving on the train at Giessen. Taxi to World takes about 10 minutes, cost is about 18 euros one way.
Thanks, Shiatsu.
If I go there, I'll be driving.
Place does seem a lot nicer than Atlantis.
Back to World and Atlantis again (I’ll also report under the Atlantis section).
World on a Wednesday. There were only about 20 girls between 17.00 and 20.00. The quality was fine for me – but as previously reported there are no real silicone tits and lips. The girls tend to be younger than Atlantis and treat it like home (a lot of them actually live on site while they’re working there). So the place has a very natural feel – in early afternoon they sit downstairs having a first coffee, then come upstairs for breakfast – often wearing flipflops. Gradually they change into high heels etc.
An added bonus is that reception and bar staff are extremely helpful and friendly
If you like slim, naturally friendly girls then World is the place. But you may not always get the wide choice you get at Atlantis.
World on a Friday. I had to leave at 16.00 – just as a number of very attractive girls were arriving. There were about 25 girls there at 16.00 so obviously the weekend is busier than midweek.
As to the girls themselves. The ones I ‘d met before all remembered me and spent time saying hello. I went to rooms with one I’d been with before, a Russian (about 20, statistics degree) and a Rumanian (bio-chenistry degree). They were all very genuine, kissed and liked French. So all very good. I also went with a Bulgarian who spoke no English and who did some couch action (rare in World) – she approached me and was rather persistent and I’m glad she was. We spent about an hour together (including 40 mins in room) and she definitely came and enjoyed the time. Stunning experience.
I give World full marks – but these things are a matter of personal taste ( I prefer it to Atlantis, Oase, Paradies, Dolce Vita, Freudenberger and Cocoon –I can’t compare with any others). I went by car and by train – it’s about an hour by car from FFM and about 75 mins by train and taxi (taxi costs 17E, train costs about 25 return).
Shiatsu,
Great report!
I have rented a car for my trip around New Year., and will definitely try World.
Visited World today and was totally impressed! Compared with Oasis and Atlantis, I have to rate World ***** (5 stars).
First of all the place is a mansion with indoor pool, 2 fireplaces. dining room with turkey dinner, large grand room and 7 or so bedrooms.
Second, because it is so large the girls are spread out and do not get catty or jealous with eachother. You can talk to one and the others will not find out. The girls have alot more interest in conversation before sex. Some of the girls actually were nice!
One tip to save some money, wait in the parking lot for another 2 guys and go in as a group of 3. 3 can enter for 135E (45E each) compared to 1 entering alone for 65E. That is how I got in, and the other 2 German guys were also quite friendly, advising me on which girls were nice and which ones to avoid. I think the girls treat you better if you come in with other guys because they will not be rude to one person, thinking they can get away with it. The girls are more socially polite to a group of 3 guys who are friends.
The food was wonderful. You can breath because the cigaret smoke is not so strong as the other clubs. The girls smoke, but the house is so large there are only a couple girls to each room.
The couch scene was quite wild, several were having sex in the open.
Several of the guys got into the pool with one girl and played volleyball with a beachball. Actually was fun and a nice diversion from hunting for pussy.
Probably were 20 to 25 girls there from 2 pm on to 8 pm. More girls arrived after 4 pm.
A little hard to find, but there are directions on this board and on their website. A couple Germans also gave directions to find it. It is out in the industrial area past the soccer field, up a small dirt road.
Overall I would rate this club as the best compared to Atlantis, Oasis, and Dietzenbach.
Did not see any 10s, but a few 9s. Both of the girls I did were great kissers. One even put a breath mint into her mouth because she had been smoking. She was a real GFE!
I agree with a prior poster that the World girls there are younger, sweeter, and not hard core prostities like Atlantis or Oasis.
Npaul,
The facilities in World are very good, no one doubts that. the only complaints that people have, and my main problem is that the quality of girls there is not very good, not on par with many other clubs.
Also regarding the 3 for the price of 2 deal that is only in effect monday to wednesday.
I have been to World twice and been dissapointed in the quality and quantity of women both times.
Hooking up with some locals to help scout you is a good idea and I recommend it to anyone. It will save you a lot of hassles, and keep you away from the not so great girls.
Peter
Peter,
I was disappointed by the girls at World too, but my last visit was way back in August, and it was the worse period of the year, everybody being on vacation. When did you visit them last ?
Maybe the situation has improved now with these reports from shiatsu and Npaul. There were only 20-25 girls in their late 20s on a Friday night when I was there, with no couch action. Now Npaul says that there are already 20-25 younger girls on a Monday afternoon, with more coming in after 4pm and wild couch action going on.
So maybe the situation is improving. Still not the 100 girls claimed on their web site, but moving in the right direction ? ;) I think I will pay them a visit again on my next trip to Frankfurt.
good news from World
I have gone there with a friend and both enjoyed very much the visit
my previous experience there was not bad and I noticed an increasing quality and quantity as for the girls
I think that the management is trying to doing a marketing effort to make some difference between World and the best FKK's in the frankfurt area, Atlantis and Oase
last wednesday I felt a funny atmosphere at World, far away from the other places one
while we were in the whirlpool, 3 hungarian girls joyned us inside and we have started playing, kissing etc. etc. (I worried they tried to charge us some money but none talked about that)
only half hour later I choose one of them but my friend didn't and the girls didn't complain him (in other places you have to pay a extra price to take a bath with a girl or simply they don't like to do it)
Stephanie (?) has been a good choice
the second choice has been Natasha, a girl from Riga studying in germany, not bad
the third, Angela from Hungary, is not the best of the bunch, but is a great GFE
we started kissing and warming up in the whirlpool (very exciting to me...) and then we have spent about an hour in the room (charged 50E)
around 1am a couple of guys of the staff started running dance music very loud and the most of the girls started dancing
what a show !!
a couple of them falled down because the floor was slippery due to the champagne foam a guy throwed'em
there was a party atmophere I liked very much and we enjoyed so much that we have gone to sleep at 4am
I think World worths a new visit for who, like me, was not totally satisfied in the past
I agree, Natasha was quite a cutie. I did her as my second girl and she finished the session off with an added massage as well.
Here's a photo of the American girls we have to chose from:
npaul
ok.. not bad...but what do u really think of American girls?
NB
Gabriel,
Thanks for the update. I've been avoiding World since my first 2 visits there were turnoffs. Good to hear that they seem to have gotten their act together. I'll try to get there next time in town.
Happy holidays!
thanks, happy holidays to you and everybody
please let us know your opinion from your next visit because I'm curious to know if the improvement I saw it's a trend or just a lucky day
I would say World is improved. My last trip a few days ago was wonderful. I timed it to be there for a few hours before the hot meal service (about 3 pm) and a few after which let me take advantage of the shift change.
I saw three wonderful young things: Annette (thin blonde from Poland, I think), Tanya (an older woman with bad teeth but very friendly and just a nice warm person to spend time with!), and Sophia (a thin brunette from Bulgaria, a real cutie and wonderful time).
Some couch action in the big room and the kino, and a very nice environs. Nothing too pressured, an ok meal, and a very nice time.
A bit farther, but not to far, from Frankfurt. I had a car, so I didn't mind the drive.
If you are staying away, you are making a mistake!
Mark
Glad to see my earlier recommendations of World have been encouraging. I'll be going back on 22 and 23 January. If anyone will be around then, and would like to cross paths, then send me a private message via this site. I'll be staying in Giessen
shiatsu, I'd like to be there in janaury but UNFORTUNATELY I should be in Rio :-)
hello I wouldlike to try this FKK out but I have never been there I will Be in SPB in late janurary so I will not be able to join but maybe a different time i will have some free time the weekend before or the first week in feburary that i could spend in Germany.
Newcomer to the Germany scene.
I'll be flying into Frankfurt on Thursday night and would like to visit World or Dietzenback first, then find a hotel and get some sleep. Any suggestions which one is better - world or dietzenbach?
Secondly, any decent hotels for a reasonable amount in the area(s)?
I will post once I've been there.
I'll be coming in Frankfurt on the 29th, so if you find affordable lodgings and or great places to go, let me know. Shiatsu and a few others have been very helpful, but still haven't found a room yet.
http://www.ambientehotel-lich.de/
Hi JC,
I visited World last summer and stayed at this hotel in Lich. It is a few kilometer away from Pohlheim. But it will only take you 5min to drive. Have a nice stay
R
NiceCAguy,
After seeing some encouraging reports (see below), I went back to World on Jan 2. There was less than 10 girls working that evening, with only a couple worth a 5 or 6 max. OK, bad timing as most girls must have gone back home for the new year celebration, but I jumped in my car was at Atlantis 15 mn later, and there was about 35-40 girls there, with some 8 or 9.
Maybe at World, the girls are back from holidays now, but I suggest you rent a car so you have a plan B for Atlantis in case they are not. As I said, just 15mn away by taking the 45.
GandJim
Went back to World on Thurs and Fri late January. I also went to Oase and Atlantis and will report separately. What struck me with all clubs was how poor the selection was – it looks like the middle of winter is not a good time. If you get to the end of this report however I make a strong recommendation for a worker called Andrea.
Anyway, I arrived at World at about 16.00 on Thursday and was horrified to think how someone who read my previous reports would have been disappointed. I stayed for about two hours and then left without any action. There were one or two stunning lookers but I had tried them before and their service had been good but not excellent. The food was poor. A quarter of the girls were in general overweight and bottom heavy, and about half were mediocre. I am very fussy – but then I’m paying the money.
The next day I returned (ever optimistic), about 16.00 (after visiting Atlantis and Oase in between). The selction was better – but still not brilliant – I’m only interested in thiose who, in my eyes are 9 or 10. There were about 25 girls there and a shortage of customers. This meant that for the first time I had to fend off unwanted attention. There were on or two I was interested in but I didn’t follow up since I saw that when they went with a man they were aloof to say the least – this seems to me to be a bad sign.
I agreed to go with a tall Czech blonde – not a 9 or 10 but my requirements were falling!. She was a clock-watcher (30 minutes to the minute) and adequate if uninspired.
I decided to go after this – despite there being a couple of girls I was interested in. And just as I was changing a new arrival walks past. The good sign was that she caught my eye with a genuine friendly look. So I changed back, put myself in her way and agreed to let her sit with me. First she checked out if all my relevant parts were working and did some definite pussy grinding on me. We went to the room and all I’ll say is that she came twice (no faking) once from oral and once from deep fucking and she was able to do vigorous complete deep throat for five minutes at a time. Unbelievable. I responded to all her body messages – when to stop and start and as a result of her having a good experience I had a really good time.
She was absolutely genuine – although of course also professional (nothing comes for free). Her name is Andrea from Prague and she is there on a three month visa. This was the first day of her current stint (she said that was why her pussy was tight, having been out of use for a while). She is 21, has just finished her degree, has jet black shoulder length hair, and was wearing black eyeliner, and a pair of fishnet arm gloves. She is slim, no flab, but with good size natural breasts. She was honest in her compliments – and enjoyed good sex.
So that’s how it was for me – I don’t normally recommend as you can never guarantee a repeat but this time I’ll let you take the risk.
Incidentally as I was leaving (20.00) again I saw another new arrival who I liked but I decided to leave on the high note.
So my conclusions from my limited experience – and I hope it is of some use
·January is not good at any of the major clubs round Frankfurt
·If you are interested in paid sex as a short nostrings loving relationship then it works best if you catch the workers soon after their arrival – being the first client of the day is usually rewarding. Many of the girls appreciate good caring sex and will describe what a change is from the quick bang they often get (no. I'm not naive)
fkk world has amazing facilities, some 60 girls, many of them beautiful, and the 15 girls who i had sex with during my two visits had a fantastic attitude. i think the startup difficulties are over. fkk world now competes with atlantis for best club in germany and in my opinion it wins. my mind reels at the thought of describing the entire two days i spent at this club, but the details are below. also check out my posts on atlantis (great), x-treff (interesting), and oase (very disappointing).
if you are familiar with the layout of the club you might want to skip my long description, and if you don’t want to read about all of the girls you should skip to day 2, which was the better – or at least more interesting – day.
day 1
i visited fkk world for the first time on a saturday. i was immediately impressed by the facilities. there was plenty of parking within walking distance of the club (p2 is the closest of the 3 parking areas, but p3 is also within walking distance). it was january, so i didn’t get a look at the outdoor facilities, but i could see that they have a lot of land, and on their website (http://www.fkk-world.de) i can see that they have a large garden with an outdoor pool, a lake, and bungalows. as you approach the entrance you pass a parking space with a new car in it. a raffle ticket for this car is included in the price of entry and in may the winner will be announced.
once inside the doorway there is desk where you pay 65 euro entrance and get your locker key. there is a very convenient atm machine right in front of the desk; its great not to have to withdraw mountains of euros before going to the club, never knowing how much you will actually use, and inevitably getting stuck with a few hundred when returning to your home country. withdrawals show up as “vb giessen friedberg pohlheim”, not “fkk world – germany’s largest sex club!” on your bank statement. there are also several big shelves always stocked with huge piles of fresh fluffy towels. the lockers and showers are large, clean, and luxurious. there are hairdryers right outside the showers.
when you pass through the locker room you enter the center of gravity of the club; a huge room with a high glass roof. in the center of the room is a steel table about 10 feet in diameter with the fkk logo engraved in it, a dancing pole in the center, and a small decorative pool underneath it. surrounding the dancing table are 10 or so tall coffee tables and a few stools, and surrounding the coffee tables are 10 or 15 large leather sofas and chairs. on one side of the room is a bar, with free nonalcoholic drinks and alcoholic beer for sale, and on another side of the room is a luxurious canopy bed with sheer red chiffon curtains for public sex. above the coffee tables are four large plasma tv screens showing different porno movies. there is a lot of red and black and everything is clean and shiny.
the room is a good meeting place. some of the girls spread themselves out on the dancing table in a sexy way. the coffee tables are a convenient place to start a conversation. the manager of the club told me that she heard that peopled had said that this room looked empty when the girls were dispersed around the club, and so she now asks the girls to gather mostly in this room when they are not with someone. some posts indicated that this room is too light. there are red translucent plastic coverings over the glass in the ceiling and i am guessing that these are new, because the lighting seemed just right to me, but i can see how the room might be too bright without these red coverings.
next to the main room is the dining room. there is a large communal table with comfortable chairs next to a buffet. the buffet is continually restocked and changes throughout the day. they served breakfast until 6 or so (kind of humorous, i thought), and then they started putting out hot meals with meat dishes, rice, noodles, cooked vegetables, fresh tomatoes, cucumbers, cabbage, and soups. when they ran out of something they replaced it with a different dish, so you could eat a variety of food if you stayed for a while. this blew away any buffet i have ever seen in any other club. i hear the buffet at atlantis is good, but i have never seen it since unlike fkk world, they do not offer their buffet every day.
past the bar is the movie theater (kino), which has three gigantic soft sofas that are perfect for sex and many people take advantage of them for this purpose. the room has a giant screen, which offers yet another porno viewing choice. beyond the kino are some curtained bedrooms.
past the dining room is a long hallway that winds past bathrooms, down a flight of stairs, past telephones, a tanning room, more curtained bedrooms (even when the club was packed i never saw anyone wait for a room), and a massage facility before arriving at the swimming pool. the pool area is nicely laid out with lounge chairs, a jacuzzi on one side, and floor-to-ceiling glass windows on the other. at night there is a swirling light beacon which lights up the sky outside the windows and which looked particularly spectacular one night when it snowed.
beyond the swimming pool is a giant living room with two or three fake fireplaces, 10 or 15 brown leather sofas, thick soft rugs, one plasma screen for porno, and another plasma screen for sports. at one end of the room is another full bar, although it was closed when i was there. past this room are large sauna and steam rooms.
i arrived at 2 or 3 in the afternoon and the club looked empty. i had seen reports saying that there weren’t many girls and that some of them weren’t so good looking, and what i saw seemed to confirm this. the few girls that i saw weren’t interesting, there weren’t many men, and it looked like the people who had invested in this club had made a huge miscalculation. i was considering an early departure. when i returned to the main room, however, i noticed a blonde supermodel straight out of hustler’s “barely legal” series who looked like she might need some company. i figured i would see her and then head over to oase or back to atlantis. the place looked great, but i didn’t come here to f--- the facilities.
victoria. polish. age 20. 10
i asked her if she wanted to make love in the public bed in the main room. she seemed very quiet and shy and said no. maybe sex in the kino? no she would only go to the room. i said i’d think about it, started to walk off, got about 30 feet, and changed my mind. she was gorgeous and there was no one else i was interested in anyway. in the room she was a little mechanical and a little reluctant to kiss, but she did everything nicely and being gorgeous made up for her shyness. i wouldn’t say we made a great connection, but there was something very sweet and innocent about her, and the session was fine, though not wild. it now seemed that i had tried everything the club had to offer. later it turned out that this would be my least interesting session, although in retrospect i wonder if it wouldn’t have been worth seeing her again to see if she would warm up on the second round.
after we finished i noticed that a few new girls had arrived. it was now perhaps 5 o’clock. i was still skeptical that things were going to improve much, but now there were a couple of other girls that i might be interested in. i asked a nice blonde lithuanian if she would have sex with me in the public bed or in the kino and she said no. a black haired romanian who didn’t look bad said she would go with me in the public bed, but it would be 50 extra. girls were continuing to arrive, so i decided to wait and see and told her maybe later.
i went downstairs to the big living room and sat on a sofa next to the one where a guy was wildly f---ing a blonde who was not bad, changing positions every couple of minutes. i watched them and thought about doing the girl on the same sofa as soon as she finished with the guy. but then i realized that she would have to go upstairs and get money from him, and she would probably want to take a shower as well, so the moment would be lost. i watched them until they finished and went back upstairs with a raging hard on that i had to hide under my towel.
gabriella. slovakian. age 21. 8
i asked a beautiful sandy blonde if she wanted to have sex on the public bed, and she said no, but that we could go to the kino. she seemed shy, so when we got to the kino and there were people sitting on all of the three giant sofas i assumed we would be going to a private room. but no. we just sat down next to another guy sitting on the sofa in the back and started to have sex. we kissed passionately, she bbbj’d me, and we did a long 69. then she rode me cowgirl for a while. i put her down on her back and got on top of her with her head almost in the other guy’s lap. i suppose he was probably enjoying it, but i didn’t really even notice since i was so absorbed by her. when i wasn’t busy kissing or licking every part of her upper body we were deep french kissing. there was some traffic through the kino since you have to pass through it to get to the bedrooms behind it, so there was some titillation from being seen by various people. the sofa was fabulously huge and soft.
after being inside her for what must have been close to a half hour i asked if i could come in her mouth. of course! (by this time our companion had gotten up and left.) i shot in her mouth and it seemed like a big load, so i was surprised when i didn’t see anything on her face. where is it? i asked. she said she swallowed it. (pretty hot, although i wish she’d made a mess of her face instead.) afterwards we talked for a few minutes; it was probably already more than a half hour by then. she told me that working in the club isn’t always that great, but that her boyfriend is 55 years old and the sex isn’t good, so she needs to come here to get sex, and the good sex she has helps make up for the times when the work gets tiring. i gave her 120 instead of 100 because i was so happy.
when we left the kino i saw that even more nice girls had arrived. i was surprised at how long it had taken for things to get going. i speculated that some of the reports that the selection of girls isn’t good came from people who came early and left disappointed, as i almost did, without ever seeing the evening shift.
mariella (or something close). czech. age 23. 8
mariella is tall and slinky with long straight fluffy blonde hair. she was wearing a sexy scarf with metal tassels around her waist. she agreed to have sex on the public bed with me and didn’t mention any surcharge. she was a little shy about it. i lied down on my back with my feet pointing towards the room and she knelt in front of me with her back to the room. when she wasn’t looking some other girls came and pulled the sheers open so everyone could see better. mariella started giving me a bbbj, but then looked back, noticed the sheers, and pulled them closed. a couple more times while she bbbj’d me her friends opened the sheers and she closed them until her friends stopped teasing her and left the sheers closed. fortunately she was still able to concentrate on the important task before her.
we 69’d for a while and then had sex in various positions. i wasn’t able to finish, unfortunately, since i had already finished a few times the day before and once today. of course the good thing about not finishing was that i got to thrust away inside her different ways for the better part of a half hour, all the while deep french kissing, with the whole room – perhaps 50 people – watching.
when we finished i gave her 70 instead of 50 to show my appreciation. but she got upset and said that the price for doing it in the room was 100. i was a little annoyed since she had said nothing about this before, and i told her this, but i also told her that it was good, so i didn’t mind giving her 100. also, the two other girls who had said they would do it in the room said it would cost 100 extra, so it seemed like it might be a house rule, although i later found out that this wasn’t true and was then a little more unhappy that she had asked for the extra money.
andrea. czech. age 21. 9
andrea was described in a previous post. she is a vamp. she is tall with long curly jet black hair and stands out for her beauty, her eye-catching makeup, and her uninhibited sexy demeanor. the little that she wears is black. when she is free she sometimes gets up on her knees on one of the barstools and leans on the bar with her rear pointing towards the room, or she gets up on the dancing table and lies back on her elbows with one leg straight out and the other bent at the knee. she is impossible not to notice. if you see a girl and you are not sure whether it is her or not it isn’t her.
we sat down together on one of the big leather sofas and began to kiss. as the kissing intensified she sat on top of me and began rubbing her pussy over my uncovered dick. then she slid down, moved sideways onto the sofa into a feline posture, and started to blow me. after a minute i slid under her and we 69’d.
i could see that there were some people who were trying not to stare. she got off me, i sat up, and she put a condom on me, got on top of me, and we did cowgirl. after a while we stretched out and went at it in missionary position. the whole time she was smiling, kissing, hugging me, laughing if i said something that could be even remotely funny, or maybe just laughing at what we were doing. it was 9 or 10 o’clock; it was peak time and the room was packed.
we got up and moved to the public bed. she pulled aside all of the sheers so that everyone could have a clear view of us and we got on the bed and continued in missionary. a small crowd gathered in front of us. i put her on her side facing the crowd and we did it in spoon position. next i lied down and she got on top of me. i could tell that i wouldn’t be able to finish inside her, so after a while we took off the condom and she blew me some more. again, i couldn’t shoot, and at some point i told her so and said that she should tell me when the half hour passes. she said it already had a while ago, so we stopped and i gave her 120.
in spite of being in front of the whole room i mostly paid attention to her and tried not to look at the crowd, at least not the men. once when i was in russia i brought two beautiful girls back to my hotel room and f---ed their brains out while they made out with each other. at some point i got out my camera and we started taking pictures. many of the pictures were taken by one girl when i was f---ing the other and in some of those pictures i smiled at the camera. when i looked at them afterwards i couldn’t believe how ridiculous i looked and how spoiled those pictures were. it’s sexy when the girl smiles, but when the guy smiles it looks like he wants to have sex with you. so i might smile at girls and flirt with them when i am f---ing, but i try not to look at guys. knowing that they are watching, however, is fun.
my dick now looked like a soggy mcdonald’s french fry. i needed to spend some time eating a little dinner, watching some tv, maybe taking a sauna ... i had a few drinks and hung out on the sofas or sat at the coffee tables or in the kino and watched the porn movies.
more than at other clubs the girls at fkk world look cheerful and animated. the girls at oase look like bored-out-of-their-mind f--k-sluts. the only time they ever move is to light a cigarette or to get up and do a round of pestering men for company. the girls at atlantis look cheery, but i find the way most of them stake out positions and remain in one spot the whole night (except for when they go to a room with a man) to be unnatural. at fkk world the girls move around, mix with each other, and flirt with the men. they look just like girls having fun in a regular disco but with no clothes on. many of the girls affect sexy poses, draping themselves over the back of a sofa, leaning back in their seats and rubbing their tits, or sitting on the dance table with their legs spread.
stephanie. bulgarian. age 21 (?). 7
i took a jacuzzi and as i was leaving gabriella and a friend arrived and asked me to get back in. i did. they both moved towards me, but i explained that i wasn’t ready for another round yet. when another guy got in and went over to gabriella, her friend, stephanie, moved towards me. she wasn’t bad –a 6.5 or 7. i put up my hands to show that i didn’t want to start with her, but she said “don’t worry – it’s not for money” and positioned herself in front of me, staring into my eyes like she was trying to hypnotize me. she slowly moved towards me and i put my hands on her sides. she moved closer, to within inches of my face and i started feeling her body with my hands. her skin was firm and smooth. when she bumped into my dick it was rock hard. she didn’t quite look like a model, but this was incredibly sexy. i drew her close and began kissing her, and she started rubbing her pussy against my dick. gradually we started deep french kissing. this lasted for about 10 minutes.
we got out of the jacuzzi, toweled off, and moved to one of the sofas in the downstairs living room. we kissed, went down on each other, f---ed in missionary, cowgirl, spoon, and reverse cowgirl. there were several guys on other couches who were either watching us, watching porn, or getting blow jobs. couples coming to and leaving the nearby rooms passed by and smiled. stephanie got up and took my hand. she walked me over to the bar at the back end of the living room. it was closed and the lights were off. she took me to the counter, stopped in front of it, and looked at me. i lifted her up onto it and we started again in missionary right on the counter. after a little while she moved over to another surface (maybe the sink – i can’t remember) and sat up as i f---ed her. we also tried a stool, i think. when it was over i gave her 70.
afterwards i went back upstairs, sat, had a drink, chatted, etc... then i wandered back downstairs, sat in the living room on the sofa facing the swimming pool, and watched guys getting blowjobs. the room had several people in it and most of the time there was at least one guy getting a blow job, though unfortunately i didn’t see anyone else f---ing.
punita, german, age 20 (?). 7
punita has long frizzy black hair which was tied back the night i saw her. she is short and has nice big round soft tits that stand up and smooth skin. i approached her in the big room upstairs and she he said we could have sex in the public bed, but it would be 100 extra, so i asked if we could go down to the living room and do it on a couch for 50 and she said yes. it was great. my dick was inside her for most of the half hour thrusting away. some of her friends passed by and watched and we chatted with them for a couple of minutes while we f---ed like crazy and deep french kissed. after a little while she seemed uncomfortable on the floor, so i took her to a bed in a room and banged her some more there. (even though it was peak time on a saturday night there were plenty of beds available; there was never any wait.) she was really sweet. i gave her 70.
magdalena, poland (i think), 21 (?)
it was now past 3 am and getting towards closing time. i hadn’t seen girls starting to leave yet and there were still many guys as well, but i knew that the club closed at 4. magdalena is a tall, thin, slinky girl with very long soft straight brown hair. i had checked her out several times and finally decided to try her at a little past 3:30. she agreed to go to the kino where we kissed for a long time and then i went down on her for about 10 minutes. we did the usual bbbj and sex in different positions, although she had a little trouble keeping wet (maybe she was thinking about going home). the club started to shut down and people were walking around us closing up.
we finished up and i gave her 50 and drove home. there had been a light dusting of snow and this had created an icy surface on the roads, so it took me about an hour to get back to my hotel.
day 2
after a very disappointing time at oase in the early afternoon (see my other post) i arrived at fkk world at around 6 on sunday. all of the girls i had seen the day before were there – one nice one was even just leaving - so it looked like things got going much earlier. when i saw the girl who was leaving she was standing at the desk in her street clothes and i thought she was arriving, so i wasted a lot of time waiting for her before i realized that she had been leaving, not arriving. then i wanted to see andrea again, but she was busy and stayed busy for a long time. i waited until after 8 pm. several times when i passed one of the bedrooms off the hallway to the pool i heard moaning and figured that it must be her since she was gone for so long. this was a disaster – one of my precious days in germany was melting away without me having had a single satisfying experience so far. i then had the horrible realization that it was sunday and i couldn’t assume that the girls would all stay until 4 am like they did the night before. i needed to get to work.
lulu, venezuelan, age 20, 7, and
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i walked past the bar and noticed a cute girl with curly black hair not quite to her shoulders, smooth light skin, and huge round breasts. she was very cheery and acted very extroverted. i asked about sex on the public bed, but she said it would be extra, and since i had already done it a couple of times i suggested going to a sofa in the downstairs living room and she said ok.
she told me she is from venezuela, and we started talking in spanish. she told me that her sister was here in the club and asked me if i wanted to have her sister come with us. she said they would kiss and go down on each other in addition to having sex with me for 100+100. in rio once i did two girls who were sisters. they both went down on me at the same time, but they didn’t do each other, and that sounded just a little too weird even for me. (plus i often find that when 2 girl sessions are offered without me asking about them first they are more often than not bad and the girls are mostly interested in money, although i now see that this probably wasn’t the case here.)
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when we finished i gave them each 60 and they seemed happy. their performance had been at least as good as that of the girls that i gave 70 to the day before, but after seeing so many girls i was getting to a point where i had to start conserving funds. they quickly began suggesting other wild parties that we could do. they insisted that i try the lesbian party at some point. i asked them if either of them would do it with 2 men. i’ve done this in swinger clubs with women who were not bad, but never in an fkk club with hot girls in their early 20s. they said they definitely would. i asked about sandwiches and they said yes. i asked how much for a sandwich and lulu said 1,000 euro. i countered that i and the other man could give her 100 for a total of 200 and she seemed excited and said yes. i asked if she would do double vaginal, and she said yes to that too. i told them to both try to find another guy who wants to do double vaginal, or dp as long as he does the anal, and then to come find me. i was actually more interested in doing it with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url], but i’d never done this before and either one of them would have been fine. before she left i tried to say in spanish “and don’t get me a fireplug.”
andrea (again).
when we got back upstairs i saw andrea. i asked her where she had been for so long and then said never mind that it wasn’t important now because we had to have sex right now and right there. we did pretty much the same thing we did on day 1, except that we did a few more positions like rc and her sitting on me as i lay on my back with her facing the room that gave everyone some better views. at one point i was on top of her and i was thinking that it was sexy that she had been with so many men recently so i asked her how many she had seen so far.
she told me that on saturday she had worked 10 hours and seen 22 men!
i thought that was great. i felt like i was with an anabolic gangbang girl. the reason she was able to do more than one man per half hour is that many of them don’t need the whole half hour to finish. i on the other hand did need the whole half hour, and when she told me that she was getting sore (only after at least a half hour) i was more than sympathetic. another fantastic experience and i gave her another 120.
afterwards i noticed that the girls were now smiling at me and some of them wanted to talk to me. the sex in public thing seemed to be going well. maybe they thought my skills were above average (i wonder what the average is), maybe they liked a guy who kept it up and didn’t finish too fast (i was on about my third viagra tablet), or maybe they just liked the fact that i was relaxed enough about it to do it in front of everyone. whatever it was, things seemed to have become more congenial.
mariella (again)
i saw mariella and she looked good, so i walked up to her and tried to start kissing her in the room. she backed away and took my hand and we walked into the kino. it turned me off a little that she wouldn’t kiss me there; maybe she was afraid that i would go a little too far and embarrass her; maybe she was pissed off because she thought i tried to underpay her the day before. for whatever reason the ensuing session was unremarkable. not that it was bad, but at some point she was no longer interested in kissing and it seemed a little mechanical, perhaps partly because i had recently had so many extraordinary sessions - and even some of those were getting to be a little repetitive, though still intensely enjoyable. i had hoped that a repeat session would be better than the first, so i was disappointed. i gave her 50.
now it was getting late. this was my last day for f---ing in germany and i had only had one really satisfying session. and i didn’t know when the girls would start leaving. i looked around for someone to take quickly.
anita, polish, age 23, 6.
anita is thin and flat chested with short red hair. she isn’t a model type, but looks sexy and had seemed lively when i saw her walking around the room. she said she would screw me in the public bed, but it would be 50 extra, so i took her to the downstairs living room. bbbj, 69, different positions on the sofa, different positions on the floor, including while giggling with her friends who were passing by. great time. i gave her 60.
laura, lithuanian, age 25, 8, and
valentina, lithuanian, age 23, 7.
as soon as i got back upstairs laura, a beautiful lithuanian blonde who had told me the day before that she didn’t want to have sex on the public bed, approached me and invited me to go there with her and her friend, valentina for 50 each. laura is medium-height with a nice smile and a happy demeanor and she speaks very good english. valentina is a little taller and more sultry looking, and her english is not so good. i asked if they would make love to each other as well as me and she said yes, but it would be an extra 50 for each of them. since my funds were getting depleted i settled for a nonlesbian party. they said that they had seen me downstairs with anita and that since i had just been with another girl maybe i wanted a little time to rest. i said ok. it must have been 1:30.
after 20 or so minutes of getting something to eat, getting a drink, and wandering around i got them and we went to the public bed and closed the sheers. we started by deep french kissing, first one at a time with the other kissing my chest and stomach, and then switching. then i brought them both towards me and began switching back and forth from mouth to mouth. eventually one of them went down and started blowing me, and they switched back and forth, one blowing me and the other deep kissing. everything was done very passionately.
they put a condom on me as i lay on my back and laura got on top of me facing towards me. i pulled valentina over and had her sit on my face, facing laura. they were both very giggly and seemed to be having a great time. after a few minutes i had the girls trade places. they changed the condom, but they did it very quickly and deftly so i hardly noticed.
valentina fell over on her side and we started going at it in spoon. meanwhile laura got down and started licking my balls as i f---ed valentina. (at one point i pulled out and tried to get her to suck me straight from valentina’s pussy, but she didn’t want to do that.) i pulled laura over on top of me and valentina and began kissing her as i continued f---ing valentina.
we changed again. i put laura on her back and got on top of her, and i had valentina lie next to her and began making out with valentina while i pumped away inside laura. then i moved valentina up a little and went down on her. i went back and forth between valentina’s pussy and laura’s mouth.
i rolled on my back and took off the condom. they took turns blowing me and then they both went down on me together. one sucked while the other licked and then they both ran their tongues up and down me at the same time. i told laura that i wanted to come in her mouth, and she started sucking me while valentina came up and began kissing me. i came nicely with my dick deep in her mouth and valentina’s tongue deep in mine. we all kissed and then lay down and chatted for a while. it was after 2 am now and there weren’t many men left in the club, so no one seemed to be in any hurry. afterwards i gave them each 60.
i got a drink and came back and laura introduced me to a beautiful but shy russian girl. she said that the russian girl would do the same thing with me: would take another girl and do me in the public bed. when i first arrived i was having trouble finding girls who would do it. now i had a line of volunteers. i found a nice ukrainian girl to join us, but then the russian girl seemed to have misunderstood. after various complicated communications the message seemed to be that the russian girl was shy, so she would only do me in a private room and only if another girl was there, which sounded a little odd, so i passed.
sabrina, 22, ukraine (n med wavy blk thick soft, main, dnc)
i took the ukrainian girl, sabrina, to the public bed and we closed the sheers. she had nice long wavy brown hair, wasn’t thin but wasn’t overweight either, and had a nice smile. again, lots of kissing, bbbj, 69, and various positions. i asked her how many men she had seen that day and was surprised that it was only one before me. she was certainly pretty enough to be in demand, and she had a great attitude. i suppose a lot of guys come, do the top 2 or 3 girls, and leave, so the demand is not at all evenly distributed. i don’t know if the fact that she was my last girl somehow makes her special, but i have been thinking a lot about her since i left. i gave her 60. she was really nice.
in 2 days i saw 15 girls at fkk world. most of them were fabulous and the one or two encounters that were below average for fkk world were still better than average for many other clubs. the total cost was 1290 euros (160 of which was voluntary tips), including admission fees; some of the best money i’ve ever spent.
i’ve seen several negative posts saying that the selection of girls was not so good. in many cases the guy who wrote the post mentions arriving early, and i found that the afternoon selection was not good, so maybe they have to get some of the better girls to come earlier in the day. i told the manager that i was happy and she said that they are aggressively recruiting girls and that many of the ones who were there were new arrivals. she said they hoped to have about 100 girls when the outdoor areas opened for summer. i said that i would write about my experiences at the club. if you have read this far then maybe i did a good job.
Catalyst,
60 girls at World in January ??? Was there any special event organised the weekend you were there, or was it just a normal weekend ?
I've been 4 times to World now, last time just a few weeks ago in January, a Friday night (after reading some encouraging reports in this forum). Only about 10 girls. I can't believe I'm always so unlucky to go there only when all the girls are off. The maximum I have ever seen is about 20-25, and I can guarantee you I searched through all the facilities and waited for hours for eventual girls to come back from the room or to come to work late.
Can anybody confirm that number of girls at World has significantly increased now ?
GandJim,
What time of day did you go? Note that when I showed up in the afternoon things looked dead and completely consistent with the past negative reports about small and unattractive selection. But the situation improved a lot in the evening. I know they had more than 10 girls because I f---ed more than 10, and there were a lot that I didn't get to.
Things may vary from day to day, although I went on a Saturday and a Sunday and most of the girls were there on both days. The manager told me that they had hired a lot of new girls, so maybe things have improved recently. She said that they expect to have about 100 girls by the time the outdoor areas open up.
Don't go at 3 or 4 and leave unhappy at 4 or 5. Wait until 8 or 9; there will still be plenty of time to bail out and go to Atlantis if things don't work out (if you go to this club you surely have a car).
Catalyst,
On my last January visit, I was there 5pm to about 10pm on a Friday. On my previous visits, I stayed until after midnight, once on a Saturday.
What puzzle me is that there were also not that much customers. If they bring 60 girls in, quite a few of them will not have any business over the night.
OK, maybe bad luck for me, I went just after they opened, then in August-September when everybody is on holidays, then in January when the girls are back home and not returned yet....
Thanks for your recommendation, but I think I will do it the other way round for the time being. Continue to go to Atlantis/Oase and bail out for World if things don't work out ;). And go to World directly only next spring or summer, maybe at the anniversary party they will organise on May 28.
Catalyst
Excellent report.
I'm still very bemused - I've been to World about six times - on most days of the week, and been there sometimes till 23.00 after some girls were packing up and I've never seen more than 25 girls, or more than about 15/20 customers.
Maybe there's been a radical change in the last couple of weeks - anyway I'm going back in March and will see if I am as lucky as you were!
maybe i just got lucky. again, the manager gave me the impression that they were just getting out of the woods with startup difficulties, so maybe things are getting better. i hope they will stay better, because the club has a lot of advantages if it succeeds. she also said that a lot of the girls were new. if shiatsu is correct andrea must have just started a couple of days or a maybe week before i arrived (i don't think she could have been doing 22 guys a day for too long). another of the girls i was with (i don't remember for sure, but i think it was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]) told me that i was her first customer ever at this club. i would recommend not giving up on this place.
it looked good on sunday, so maybe that is a good day to take a chance on it, since some posters have said that atlantis and oase are a little dead on those days. you could call ahead to ask how many girls are there. you could even check my long report below and ask if some of the nicer girls i saw (all of them in my opinion) are there.
there were a lot of customers on saturday, but not so many on sunday, especially late on sunday. in fact, after i did sabrina i was sitting and talking with her and laura at about 3:30. i looked around and saw that although the club still looked pretty full i seemed to be the only guy left. i asked laura if everyone had to stay until i left and she politely hesitated but said yes, so i said i supposed i should let them go home and got up to leave and i could see all of the girls starting to leave before i even made it to the locker. (turns out there was another guy still there too, so everyone wasn't waiting for me to leave; the other guy started to leave just when i did.)
Hello all,
After reading some good and some bad reports I have decided to find out for myself. I will me doing a special trip with some friends flighing out Stansted on 19th March and flying in on 21st. Was looking for advise.
I have been to Atlantis and Oase before a few times but this time I thought about trying a new place and world seems to have all the potential. Idea is to go to World on friday night and then to atlantis on sat. Unless someone tells me that sat night is better in World?
Anyone know any accommodation nearby. I will have a car.
Is anyone reading this message going to be in the area at the time and would like to meet up?
I look forward to any comments/advise.
Regards.
Hello Redhawk,
I stayed at the Hotel Schweikardt last September when I visited the area. It was centrally located to Atlantis, World, and Oase. I couldn't find Oase so I just stayed at Atlantis for the duration of my visit, but I know World is not that far off.
The hotel was ok.... 42 Euros a night with breakfast. I found it using hrs.de The address is Bahnhofstr. 37, Ortenberg-Bleichenbach 63683, and the phone is 060451-251.
I will land in D-dorf on the 20th, will pick up my rental on the 23rd and probably shoot down to Atlantis then. The drive is only 2.5 hours so I don't know if I'll get another room at Schweikardt or just drive back to D-dorf.
I have never been to World, but the facilities sound great. I was only disillusioned once with Atlantis, but I think this time of year the action is probably the best time to visit.
Good luck.
NB
there 's a gasthaus ("da Giovanni") 5/6 kms. from FKK World, in bad polheim
small but clean room and a decent breakfast for about 15 euros
ridng the main road, turn on the right (coming from World) when you find the post office
What is the largest city closest to FKK World?
How far away is Frankfurt from World?
I was in Frankfurt and Visited Oase, Atlantis and Palace.
What is the quality of woman at World compared to Oase, Atlantis?
Does World serve food? What type, Breakfast, lunch, dinner?
Watcher,
What is the largest city closest to FKK World?
-Giessen or Polheim
How far away is Frankfurt from World?
-43 miles/69 Km
I was in Frankfurt and Visited Oase, Atlantis and Palace.
-Cool.
What is the quality of woman at World compared to Oase, Atlantis?
-I'll let you know in a couple of weeks.
Does World serve food? What type, Breakfast, lunch, dinner?
-From previous posts it sounds like they serve food around the clock.
NB
I keep hearing they have a blowjob contest at this club, is this for real or is it a hoax? Can any guy who wants to participate just walk in take part in the activities?
This is a report of my first time at World on March 1st, with two questions below for GabrielPontello.
Yes, it looks like they serve food their all day. There is a large eating area with quite an assortment of things to eat, with good plates and silverware.
I spent time with two women, both from Poland. Their names were Nicole and Nina.
Nina has light brown hair with maybe C cup boobs. I spent 1 hour with her, but she was a bit wound up and would not slow down. She did a fine BBBJ but I had been with Nicole not long before, and was not ready for another orgasm. She's 20 years old or younger.
Nicole was great. She's also got light brown or blonde hair, is 23 years old and has what some might call a short, fat body, which did not bother me one bit because she is stacked with an honest E cup busom with a cleavage that just keeps going. I spent an hour with her and fucked her boobs twice, coming both times onto her face and in her mouth. (I've learned to have a towel on the bed just beyond the woman's face to cover her eyes so she doesn't get any spurts in either eye).
I have been to Atlantis and Oase many times and since I have only been once at World, I will wait for more experience there before making an assessment, but one first impression is that World is too big. It seemed to take forever to get from the lockers down to the lower level where the sofas are. Also, some of the women I was expressing no interest in were annoying in that they would not just go away when I clearly indicated that I did not want to spend time with them.
I hope to go back to World in late April and would like to ask if the people at da Giovanni speak English. Also, is the 15 Euro that was mentioned just for the breakfast? I can't imagine that was the cost of the small room as well as the breakfast. When I stay in the cheaper hotels near Atlantis or Oase, the cost is closer to 25-30 Euro (including a breakfast).
FFKW had two events which were called "Blasen Fest" events, or Blow Job parties. They consisted of three girls who were trying to go for the World Record (no pun) of most blow jobs. Guys who were willing to participate got in free and got a free blow job. It was a good marketing tool and may well have turned this place around.
I visited World last June shortly after they opened. Not so impressed then with the girl selection. I went back a few weeks ago and WAS much more impressed witht he girl selection. Seems that they got it together. I'd say that on balance they fielded girl line-ups that were competitive with Oase and Atlantis. Perhaps Oase had a larger, deeper field of women to choose from, but on Thurs-Sat, World was sometimes better in terms of girls and atmosphere han Atlantis, believe it or not. I found the attitude of the girls and the quality of the sessions better at World than at Atlantis. My two cents there.
Giessen is the closest town or city. Poldheim is a village, man! Not a city. For me a good way to express the distance of World from Frankfurt is to say it is about half-hour from Oase and 25 minutes from Atlantis. Not prohibitively far in my opinion. Now with Palace on the rise, Frankfurt area can boast at least four large FKK clubs, making it a great place to monger...
WTF do i know about Polheim, man?! I never been there, but the little town is listed on the map so I indicated it. I gotta hope I can find the place when I visit. The nstructions are so f*cking confusing. In fact, in all my visits to Deutschland I have never seen a street marker that begins with an L
I know the yellow B highway signs and the blue autobahn signs, but i have never seen an L sign.
Still....where there's a will there's a way, and from what I have read, they got a lot of nice, young Eastern European and Russian babes which is what I like and what I'm looking for.
NB
Try this for directions ton FKK -World
I found Mappoint to give excellent directions much better than map24.de, etc
http://mappoint.msn.com/(gxfsh4vvnih4y5molv50d055)/directions.aspx?&StartName=Hugo-Eckener-Ring%2c+60549+Frankfurt+am+Main&StartLocation=50.05314%2c8.58074&EndName=Ferdinand-Porsche-Stra%c3%9fe+6%2c+76275+Ettlingen&EndLocation=48.93922%2c8.38423&DataSetLangID=EUR%2c409&RouteType=Quickest&RouteUnit=Miles
This is all one line in your browser and is from Frankfurt airprt to FKK-World
Thanks Tarl. That's an excellent mapping service.
NB
NB,
Finding your way to FFKWorld may seem complicated on paper, but in practice it's pretty simple, really!
Take A5 towards Kassel and get off at Fernwald exit. (They're doing road construction now and the Fernwald exit is just near the end of the construction works.) Upon exiting the A5 autobahn, follow all the yellow/black town signs to Polheim, then at Polheim follow white/black signs to the Industrial Area of Garbenteich, a couple of kms outside Polheim. At Garbenteich, FFKW is pretty well sign-posted. Really it's not that tough to find.
Remember, if you want to drive to FKKW via A45 so that you pass Altenstadt on the way, there is a junction with A5 about 15min after Altenstadt.
Good luck...
Cool Ortos,
Hope so. I'll be taking the A485 off A45 coming from Dusseldorf. If they ever answer their email, I might even spend the night there. Their web page says they have overnight guest rooms, but I emailed them for a price which they haven't sent yet. If they don't answer then I'll continue on to Ortenburg and Altenstadt. A45, exit 39, and B521--- I have gotten to know real well now.
Many thanks.
NB
Tarl,
Excellent mapping service indeed. :)
However, the link you posted is showing the direction to somewhere in Ettlingen, South of Frankfurt. Hope it's not your girlfriend's address. ;) FKK-World is in Pohlheim-Garbenteich, North of Frankfurt.
On a recent visit to Germany I decided to compare FKKW with Atlantis. I think I prefer the latter.
FKKW is quite difficult to find, but I suppose all these places have to be hidden away in the sticks.
Arrived at 4 pm. It was snowing outside. Was given one towel (you have to go to reception to get more) and told that each half hour is charged at 50, and the half hour starts as soon as the girl touches you (fortunately, this is not enforced).
FKKW is large and hence felt a bit cold, not as warm and intimate as Atlantis (Oasis is about half-way between the two in terms of size and comfort). In the six hours I spent there, no one (bar me) used the swimming pool. The food was no better than Atlantis (except here you get food every day, in Atlantis it's 3 days a week in winter, 4 days in summer). Soggy noodles and overcooked meat, plus salad. In Atlantis last week, there were two dishes to choose from.
But Atlantis has a no alcohol rule, here you can buy beer, Red Bull and champagne. Both establishments have very expensive de luxe rooms (around 300 euro/hour).
I didn't find FKKW at all welcoming. There were only about 20 girls at first, and tho good-looking, many were sitting in the shadows and it was a question of going up to them. Had a coffee in the dining room. A really cute-looking very young girl caught my attention there, and we started talking. Clara from Romania. Unfortunately she had very little English and even less German. But she was warm and welcoming and showed me round. We kissed a lot and cuddled, then had sex in several positions in a nice, very large room. There was a basin but no soap. Spent 75 minutes, paid 150 euro. Good value; hers is the perfectly proportioned body IMHO. Then talked to Isabella from Greece. Fake blonde, quite nice but rather cold hands. Politely declined.
Had meal of lukewarm beef and noodles. Clara was kind of following me around. I was still looking out for other opportunities, and eventually went with Lisa, from Russia. Nice looking, very slim, medium height. Good session in small room. 25 mins, 50 euro, friendly person. She told me she was the only Russian who works there.
I had enjoyed the session with Clara, so thought I'd try an encore. Now things got a bit heavy. She's very young (20) and quite sensitive. Told me a lot about herself, her father, mother back in Romania, who think she's working in a laundry. Became very sentimental. I began to feel she perhaps needed a social worker. Another 75 minutes. Paid 100 euros. Began to feel rather weepy myself. Clara's story was probably typical of so many girls who work here: poverty at home, alcoholism, medical problems, abusive boyfriend, desire to move into a flat of her own, &c. Be very kind to her if you see her. She's just a child, really.
As I left, having spent only 300 of my 400 euro budget, a group of 6 rough-looking Italians arrived. The demanded, and got, a discount on the admission charge, paying only 45 euro! Annoying but inevitable. There were only about 20 men and maybe 40 girls there at 9.30 pm. The place looked and felt dead. But perhaps the Italians managed to liven things up.
Mind Snatcher,
Great report. Thanks. As much as I like Russian girls, I have had great luck with Romanian girls. I hope to meet Clara. I'll be nice. I won't get weepy though. My mind is too focused on sex sex sex.
I found the food at Atlantis to be quite bad and almost synthetic, kind of like eating rubber chicken with a good dose of indegistion for my troubles. Thanks for the warning.
NB
Don't be upset about the 6 Italians getting a discount for getting in. There *is* a group discount. See Iseeu's previous reports.
STA
Mind Snatcher: If you walk in with a group of 3 you all get the discount, but only on certain days, I don't recall which. Read the other posts to find out. Often a couple of guys will wait in the parking lot and then walk in together so all will get the discount. Don't bad mouth the Italians.
Mind Snatcher wrote: "There were only about 20 men and maybe 40 girls there at 9.30 pm." What are you complaining about exactly? That there are 20 nubile young naked women with nothing to do but f*ck the daylights out of you?
In any case it's difficult to make these types of comparisons between the clubs unless you do a real statistical model with many visits over time; different parts of the month, different days of the week, different times of the day, proximity to holidays, proximity to authorities' crackdown on illegal residents, etc these are all variables that make a difference and vary all the time... To make a comparison based on one visit to each is not fair and gives the rest of us a skewed view...
Personally ( and I forgot to add personal taste in as one of the key variables), after tens of visits to Oase and ATL and a few to World I seem to find more satisfaction at Oase, and I think that my posts on this board have reflected that. But that doesn't mean that I won't visit the others, just to keep my own personal database fresh, and find new "lands " to conquer (LOL)
I apologise for creating the impression that I was complaining. I thought, rightly or wrongly, that because the ratio of clients to ladies was so low, the group found it easy to negotiate a bigger than usual discount. Those who think I was badmouthing the Italians did not see what happened. They sure drove a hard bargain with the lady at the desk!
You are right that Oase has the edge in some respects. I don't much like the pool area, but I've had some fabulous times there too, and think it's the best place to visit in the summer, when one can laze around in the hammocks and watch the world go by, taking a bite of this and that every now and then ...
Ortos.....thanks very much for the directions. Made it safe and sound and had a really good time.
I was impressed with the club. I'ts definately an upscale club, and the food was good too. I had the schnitzel.
I liked sharing the showers and locker rooms with the honeys...that was fun free play.
Spent an hour with the beautiful, young, voluptuous Maya from the former Atlantis. Wonderful. Then I went and got the full body massage for 50€ which was also very good. The dude knows his business. Plus he is popular with the girls and a lot of them kept coming by to say hello, so I was getting a lot of freebies while laying on the massage table. Went upstairs afterwards and had dinner. The food was very good. Then after digestion I spent another hour with a sweet, very young, 20 year old Romanian baby girl. Ah, youth. She was hot and inexperienced at the game. Had a good laugh at the end of the cim because she kept spitting and spitting like she couldn't get the taste out of her mouth or something. I finally had to say to her...."oh come on now, at these prices you should have swallowed it."
Anyway, World was good for me. Glad I found the place.
NB
I am planning to go at the World on Tuesday.
Do you thing it is a good day?
Can you suggest me the best time to go there?
Thank you
PP
hey – thurs. night a couple of weeks ago was unofficially dubbed american fkk survivor night at world. fun time – i knew that we would be meeting up with shiatsu, lanrac and tarl, but never expected to meet up with 7 other anglos including crazy joe and others. it was great trading tips, mongering experiences and passing the legendary andrea and lanrac's tequila between us around the table. at one point andrea wanted to know if there was a special for anglos that night and how long we've all known each other ("we were all in the boy scouts together", we said. lol)
first, i must say, having trashed world on the boards in the past, that they've gotten their act together and the selection is pretty good, most i'd say in the 6-8 range on looks, but with fabulous friendly attitudes. together with the outstanding facility, this moves it in my book to almost the top of the fkk scene. all that's missing in contrast to oase is for there to be little more diversity in the type of women- they all seem to be russian, e.european or german,- some more ethnic types, africans and asians, and at least a few 9's-10's – there really aren't any knock-em dead gorgeous supermodels.
anyway, the night started for me with a real bang. taking my time scouting the room, studying the body language of the returning couples, the "glint in the eyes", etc. began talking with umbra a pretty, young, romanian english student who wants to be a pharmacist and definitely haad the glint. turns out that that night was her first night back in world and she was just starting her shift, so i would be her first for the day. that was amplified, when she told me that will all of her studying lately the only sex that she's had for the last 2 months was with tom, her dildo, and that speaking english really gets her hot. she seemed to be real and sincere and not a pro, but if that was just a sales pitch then i'm going to hire to train my own salespeople who are nowhere near as creative or persuasive concept pitchers.
great session. i laid her out and told her that tom has met his match and after 25 minutes had her screaming! this was real gfe stuff and we f*cked real hard afterwards. later we had a spelling quiz – for every word that she got right i tweaked her… for everyone she got wrong she tweaked me – win/win situation. she got dildo right , but fluffed up on "psychiatrist" and "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord130][CodeWord130][/url]" (i think that she was missing them on purpose). this struggling student deserved a tip and she got one.
rest cycle, joined the anglo table and met some more new faces. a gorgeous hungarian walked by and leaned over with her gorgeous ass and twat in my face, and she made my "to do" list for later. but first it was my turn with the legendary andrea.
fabulous turn, starting in the kino and ending in the room next to the kino. great attitude, she enjoys what she's doing and likes developing the conversation with the customers, so she's picked up 6 languages just by f*cking guys from all over the world.. that impresses me. non-stop 30 minutes which included mutual rimming and then- boy can she squeeze those vagina muscles.
back to the anglo table and by now the guys were one by one or two leaving. these 2 girls, a greek and a romanian girl with a cold sore, kept coming and trying to get it on with us. must of turned them down 10 times during the night. took a long rest cycle with sauna and jacuzzi. looked around for the lovely hungarian twat that i salivated over earlier but she was nowhere to be found.
back to the bar and hooked up with only ethnic looking girl in the place the lovely felice, of turkish origin but from cologne, with beautiful succulent boobs and a great smile. okay session, with fabulous bbbj and me going to town on those boobs, but we didn't really strike a match and alll in all the least memorable of my 5 sessions.
the anglo population was really dwindling by then. i really needed a rest – i was still on u.s. time and had been up for a day. sauna, shower, jaccuzzi, shower, and then down in the downstairs lounge next to the pseudo fireplace to nap.
after about an hour, i feel feathers stroking my neck. andrea had found me and had come to cuddle. which we did, and then some more, right there on the couch. what a bedside manner she has. …
back upstairs to the bar, to get a drink, planning on chilling out in the kino – no anglos around at all now. laid down in the kino and fell asleep until 3 girls came in sat on the couch in front of me and started playing around. watched them for awhile, and then went back to look for the hungarian again. andrea was stretched out on the central pole platform playing with herself, and she looked lonely, but then i spotted denise, thin blonde with an electrifying smile, who i had been watching in the bar area. german girl with excellent english.
funny thing happened, remember this is at almost 4:30 in the morning. we go down to the big room downstairs and she sits me down looks me in the eye, and as i begin munching on the nips, she asks if any of the girls have told me how it works in world., that they're supposed to at the beginning of each session , but she knows that most don't, and begins to explain to me the house rules and payment scheme. cim, anal, etc cost extra, so much for a half hour and so much for an hour. it was surreal. i told her that it was a good thing that she was telling me this, because i had just come to use the sauna, but kept having sex instead on the way to the sauna, she was totally serious – and then proceeded to give me a tongue wash on the balls that i will never forget. i lasted a long time and then in the après sex, we talked about the fra area club scene. at 5:10 we left the room, the last players of the night.
so the totals: 5 pops including 2 with andrea and the rights to claim the "anglo fkk survivor title" .
here's my acceptance speech: well guys, it was rough, i learned a lot about myself and my survival instinct,and, i'd like to thank the team for their support in the early going and as the last man standing may i say that it's tough job we took upon ourselves, but someone's gotta do it to make fkks safe for mankind. lol
isn't this a great idea for a reality tv show on cable?????
Isseu was absolutely right. Fun had by all!
The list as i remember:
Tarl
Isseu
Lanrac1
Shiatsu
and 2 -3 lurkers who need to start posting!
AS mentioned the legendary Andrea is a MUST at this place. I had two pops with her (both in the Kino) and was well worth it. Also had a 5'9" tall russian blonde who wore glasses. Did a full facial with her wearing the glasses - was great!. Also did a Czech babe with hard nipples - but she didn't like them sucked so - bailed on her.
Other than that - it was a very good time. Sorry I missed out on Friday guys - I got hooked up in the Hotel, so didn't have to spend any money.
As a side note I mentioned to you guys about a private house in Frankfurt: Here is the link http://www.salon-mira.de/home.htm.
I had Vanessa for 200 for an hour and half - multiple pops. There is no cover charge to get in just the booking and it is close to Sacsenhausen, which is great for partying afterwards.
BTW I left World ~ 2:15am and got stopped by the German PD on the A5 through in the construction zone. Going 100 in a 60. I think they were fishing for DUI, but I only had 1 swig of tequila from Lanrac hours before. I had to pay a foriegner 30 euro fine and all was good. Still pissed me off though. What a way to end a great night by getting a fucking ticket!
The drive to World is worth it - but seeing that you have these private clubs opening up in Frankfurt, plus that new FKK in Frankfurt, you might want to just stay local.
All in all it was a great way to end my Atlantic adventures - now down to Australia. You all have a great time in DE.
-Tarl
Nice to hear from you Tarl, too bad about the return to Frankfurt.
That was some evening, running into so many people from different parts of the U.S plus some local yocals. Sitting around the table eating dinner, watching those girls spread out on the couches, massaging themselves while we ate.. AH, what a way to live. You were right on about Andrea, she broke me into the world of Kino Sex in a big way. I thought I was in a movie. I had just taken a toke in the bathroom and you guys called her over to me. I vividly recall your faces as I exited after my session and Joe calling her over, saying "its my turn" LOL.
Too bad you missed out on the Palace on Friday. I went over around 15:00 to check it out prior to my plans on going to Oase. Ended up staying there until 1:00 A.M. Only a short 10 E taxi ride and about 15 minutes from the Frankfurt Hbf. Outstanding selection, rivaled World in numbers and quality.
Keep in touch,
Lanrac
Hi guys. If I can add my two pence worth. All hail to Iseeu the last man standing and for the inspirational descriptions of Beverly
It was good to meet everybody (even if only briefly). In addition to those listed there was Ry Cooder. And on the following night Red Hawk and two friends was there. Andrea and Chantelle thought we were all old friends so I guess we must have been putting out some good feelings. Thanks to you US guys who answered my no doubt boring questions about the US! As a dyed in the wool European it was brilliant to meet US people as real people not just as tourists. Great
I had scheduled two nights at World/Atlantis and two around Dusseldorf (PHF/Beverly/Institu Shaka)– but I got sidetracked by Andrea and spent four days there. The last day was the Sunday (the day after the Atlantis raid) and there was some tension in the club – I have since found out that several of the girls were questioned on Monday by the Police but I don’t think any were deported/arrested. Maybe I’m soft but it seems a shame if hardworking girls can’t make their fortune just because of a state boundary.
This report is more limited than I might have hoped – I was so taken with Andrea that my horizons shrank. If anybody goes to see her, be aware that she is a professional and is out to make a lot of money, so if you let her, she’ll deep throat you to finish in 15 mins, make 100E and within five minutes be onto the next man. However if you click with her (or if she knows you’ve got friends in the room to whom you’ll report she’ll give you the 30 minutes). I was a bit nervous about recommending her to all you guys but it seems it was ok. It was a highlight to see her standing at the table with us all, with her completely amused at the idea of working her way round the whole table. Over the next few days she referred from time to time to various of my “friends”. I’m not going to go into details about Andrea except to say that as well as being strangely stunning (if unusually featured) to my eyes, she has an extremely deep and serious line in conversation (great detail about her work, the meaning of life etc)– I ended up paying a session for the conversation (or was it therapy?)!
But I haven’t forgotten my WSG duty completely. Sunday is an odd day at World – it seems to be a regulars day, Men were buying bottles at 70E each and spending hours with one girl. Andrea didn’t do this but she had two regulars lined up by 16.30 (and then let me butt in for two hours as I had to drive off back to Dusseldorf). The other three days were much the same as each other – there doesn’t seem to be a real change from Thurs to Sat. There are only about 12 girls in the afternoon increasing to perhaps 30 in the early evening and falling off after 12.00. Looks wise they’re not up to Atlantis but the atmosphere is much much better – more relaxed and friendly. But don’t pay the 150e extra you will be asked for anal, (By the way, good try Tarl with Andrea. And how do you manage to get hooked up – the man with the style))
I spent some time with Chantelle, a very thin young Rumanian who spent hours laughing at me as I rejected approaches by slightly overweight girls. Eventually I went up to her (she doesn’t approach) and we spent half-hour talking and then went to a room. Lots of kissing. Refused doggy position. Is sending money to support family and pay for a course. Second night I spent 90 minutes sitting with her talking – she wasn’t very well. She seems surprised when asked if she would like to go a room (I wonder to myself what she thinks we pay the entrance for). Typical idiosyncratic experience at World
So, Andrea 8 sessions.
The red haired Rumanian (not Chantelle but another Rumanian) – very thin, attractive. Good half hour but maybe we didn’t click – the second night she didn’t react to my initial approach – but I think she never makes the first move.
Very tall thin Czech girl wearing glasses. Runs restaurant in Prague. Good sex, good English, very friendly.
Julia – blonde German from Leipzig. Ok – but didn’t like oral on her or massage. Friendly but not out of this world. Liked to bring to the edge of coming and then stop.
I also went to Atlantis. Had the mad Brazilian Viagra. Got ripped off (15 minute session) by Cherie who said she was Bulgarian (but in fact was German) – I notice that unlike in UK, a person of say, Turkish descent born in Germany, gets upset if you call them German or Turkisk German, or German of Turkish descent. I have discussed this with many girls and they are quite clear that the approach is the opposite to that in the UK.
I had a brilliant session with the Russian, Irina.(slim, mousy hair, upturned nose) Totally 100% recommended. She asked to do it on the public bed (unlike World there is no extra charge) and insisted that I speak German for the halfhour as she wanted to help me improve my awful German. She spends ages talking to regulars and is highly rated. A really nice person
I don’t know where Irina is now but she is legally in Germany so will no doubt turn up somewhere(if anyone wants to find out where girls are the Roemerforum is a good site but you will have to join a cheap German ageprotection scheme – the free ID based access to German sites doesn’t work with a UK passport nor do any of the backdoor methods I was told about)). Joining has been worth its weight in gold – I have hooked up with a German guy who is checking when certain girls are going to be at World for me.
My only other event was an 18 year old outcall I arranged near Dusseldorf. Two hours 200E. No big deal – she had a kid and about 5 jobs. Waste of money. It’s a shame I didn’t get to Beverly.
So I add to the World fanclub for the laidback atmosphere. (even the reception is normally very friendly) Altho Palace is getting some good reports and the excellent honest statuesque Cindy from Atlantis is there . If you go to World with one girl in mind remember that she may well be on holiday etc so you’ll need a fallback arrangement- especially while Atlantis is closed
Enjoy yourselves peacefully
shiatsu, tarl, lanrac,
yes it was great hooking up with you guys and great fun all around - a night to remember and as long as we're distributing kudos - hats off to jackson for bringing us all together.
tarl, what a bummer to end the evening but you should know that you should ever speed in a construction zoneon german highways. just look at how the locals religiously will slow down from their ultrasonic speeds to a prehistoric crawl in those zones.
i remember you coming back from your "face" session with andrea...and all of thinking lterally of our sloppy seconds" heh, heh, heh,. have a great time down there with the randy sheilas, and we'll be sure to look you up and expect the mongerer's tour of aussieland.
lanrac1,
i also remember that brunette lying over the arm of the couch fingering herself - great marketing stunt...
good to hear that palace is straightening up as an alternative to the farther afield clubs and it will certainly benefit by being a very reasonable public transportation fare away from city center or the airport. don't you think that soemeonw would make a bundle putting an fkk at the airport?
shiatsu,
bitten by the andrea bug, big time, heh? 8 times!!! too quote a famous man "i love my cigar too, but i take it out sometimes..."
loved your comment on americans being "real people"..
we need to take a rain check on the original bev plan - in the end neither of us made it and you ended up in world while i ended up at fkk villa in hannover.next time.
I would just like to point out that it wasn't the real musician Ry Cooder who was in attendance that night but rather myself and my friend. I too had a very nice time with Andrea on Thursday night as well as two very enjoyable Saturday sessions with the red-haired Romanian girl (her name escapes me) as well as a very tan, exotic looking woman (Karina?) who turned out to be Czech (I was under the original impression that she was possibly Persian or South Asian). However, I must say they were both using too much body lotion to the point where I found them quite slippery and hard to hold onto. At any rate, I think the facilities at World are top notch. I really think they should consider providing a billiards table and internet stations as well. I could spend all day there, taking care of other errands and getting some other recreation. Surely there's a way for them to block certain forum sites if that were a concern and I really don't think that it would detract from everyone's main purpose of being there. But it was nice meeting everyone there and though I've felt extremely sated for the past three weeks, I do feel a certain urge to return to Deutschland. Must find a job that sends me out there periodically.
Wry Cooter,
I love that handle, Excellent :-}
It was good meeting you as well, and sorry if I left you off the list, but I didn't know you're posting name. Now I won't forget it.
Like the idea of internet connection at the club. Then we could send live action posts on WSG realtime! Now if they could install WiFi and give us PDA's we could post directly from the zimmer. LOL
The day after visiting Oase, I visited the world. Took a train to Giesen from Frankfurt (40 minutes), then taxi (16 euro). The facility was nice and new. The same enterance and session fees as Oase. Food was not as good as Oase's.
Like Oase, most of the girls were 6 - 8, but I spotted a few 9 and 10. IMHO, I liked the World better than Oase, simply because of the availability of high quality girls.
I was there with you guys also, that Thursday night. I never did go with Andrea. I think I may have been the only one. When Tarl was getting ready to leave for the night, he grabbed Cindy (the tall Chech with glasses) and had her come over to me at the bar. What could I say? She was looking good and I went down to a room with her. After finishing with her, I was just about to pass out. I had been up for almost 30 hours by this point and I left the club shortly after my session.
It was nice meeting everyone there. A normal night for me is just walking around and/or sleeping in between sessions. Maybe I’ll see one of you guys in the area again. Not sure on the next time that I’ll get to Frankfurt at the moment.
Tschus.
More detailed report of my world experience.
I tried the famous Andrea (a dark haired Czech girl). She was 8/10/9 (face/body/service). She spoke good English and she was nice even after the session was over. Highly recommend.
Daniele (a wavy dark/highlighted haired Romanian girl). She was absolutely the sex machine! Her service was incredible. She licked me everwhere (I mean EVERYWHERE!). She told me that other girls would do this work for money, but she would do it because she loved sex (and she was happy because she even made money). 8/8/10. You MUST try her.
Sevda (a light brown haired Romanian/Turkish girl). She was absolutely stunning and provided a good service. 10/10/9. She said she was going to finish her work soon. If you can still catch her, I suggest you do it.
Maria (a dark blond haired Brazilian). She had incredible control of the contractions. I have never had anybody who could squeeze so tight. 8/8/9.
Besides those girls, I spotted a lot of very attractive girls there. Cindy from Czech republic, she would be 9/10/? (I only talked to her); Linda from Germany (10/10/?); Anna from Belarus (10/10/?); Julia from Romania (9/10/?); Julia from Germany (9/8/?); Silvia from Poland (8/9/?), and so on. I wish I had more time (or stamina) to sample more.
Yes, the Daniella was one of the girls that my friend tried out. He said that she was very good but that she said lots of interesting things. She kept repeating "I love it. I love it." while he was doing his thing which he found sort of distracting. Also afterwards, she said something like "What you do, that's not f*%king. It's art!" and that this job was her art. I think it's great that she enjoys her job so much.
Hi,
I would like to go to the word on next tuesday.
Is it a bad day?
There is any relevant difference between different days of the week?
Thanks
PP
Luigi
Tuesday is one of the quieter days. in terms of clients but the number of girls does not change much There was a large party on Saturday which meant that Sunday was very depressing (on top of which there were one or two things happening which made some girls less than cheerful. Saturday was about 120 men and 50 girls - a nightmare for my liking. Sunday was about 20 men and 20 very lacklustre tired girls.
Try Irina, exAtlantis (Russian living legally in Germany for many years, tall slim medium straight brown hair end 20s?) good fun: she insisted I speak german one sesion just to improve my German!.
I like very much Chantelle very very slim, straight brown hair, Rumanian, very quiet is very sweet, often has dry eyes.
There is a very slim petite longblonde haired girl called Anna (I think) who speaks no English but is very nice -she doesn't approach you
Leona (or something similar) ex-Atlantis, slim. speaks English, is blonde from Czech Rep.
Lisa (who looks like a slightly more robust version of Chantelle)
And of course Andrea (treat her well - (or my curses will haunt you!!)), respect her and get on her wavelength and she will be intelligent, spiritiual. and articulate, - however you mileage may vary considerably (there are reasons for this and do not reflect badly on her). She is very thin, handfull breasts, very long natural jetblack hair tied back , black eyeliner all th way round eyes, small mouth, wears high platforms, and is always on the hunt for the next customer. She should be treated well. She's my top choice of forever - but maybe not to everybody's taste
Laura- short black hair, medium build, is a favourite of some regulars. Basically I heard no bad reports of girls at World when I was talking to German regulars this last weekend - altho to my mind many of the girls are a bit overweight
If anybody sees Andrea at World would they PM me just to let me know if she is still working there - my scouts tell me she's been missing from the Club for at least 5 days after the Party day (17th April) so far Much appreciated
Hello gentlemen. I am a WSG lurker and first time poster who knows some of you from other boards like Ignatzmice and have even traveled with one of you personally. I started out in Amsterdam and then Alkmaar and Leeuwarden in the Netherlands, also took two trips to Costa Rica- all beginning Dec 1999. But when I first visited PHG, my life and mongering habits were changed forever.
I have been to Planet Happy Garden many times in the last year and a half or so and I am coming to Germany for four days May 6,7,8,9. I plan to visit PHG from Venlo on the first two days and then train Venlo to Frankfurt to see FKK World on Saturday (train to Giessen and then taxi) and either World, Oase, or Palace on Sunday before flying out of Frankfurt Monday the 10th.
If anyone has any advice, suggestsions, or is in town and wants to hook up, share taxis etc with a dedicated hobbyist, I would appreciate this.
Beffen 1
I have been going to FKKW every since they opened. In the beginning, they made a huge strategic error by announcing on the radio that everyone would get in free. So hordes of onlookers went there during the first few days, ate and drank the free food and drink like there was no tomorrow, did not pay for a girl, and really irritated the people who come to the place for the purpose it was intended.
Over the last few months the management has made many subtle improvments, better and more girls came, and now the place is really the best in Germany.
Andrea is also one of my favorites there. She must be getting rich, pulling in at least 500 to 700 euro per day. She gets more traffic than any other girl. And yet she manges to make you feel special when you are with her. What a talent! She alone would be worth coming back again and again.
I have seen several really wild parties there, with tons of champagne flowing. When some of the girls get a bit tipsy, they put on quite a show. This alone is worth the price of admission.
FKKW has been my favorite club for the last 6 months or so, and it just keeps getting better. Let's hope that the FKKW owners do not make the same mistakes as the Atlantis'.
Euro - you sing the praises of Andrea. Just to let you, and others, know that Andrea is currently not at World, or even in Germany. So if anybody is bitten by the Andrea bug (and there seem to be quite a few - including me) it might be worth hanging on a bit to see if she comes back. The situation is a bit unclear.
Euro,
Let's hope.
NB
Shiatsu,
Andrea: this is really bad news. She is a star. Oh well, I'll be there in two weeks, and I will find out first-hand.
But the good news is that there are several excellent performers at FKKW. Mentioned below is Daniela. I have had her and agree that she really likes her job. Christina was also a great performer, but I did not see her during my last two visits. There are several others who are really worth investigating. Here is are excerpts from two of my reports I put up last November:
"Most of the girls in the wintergarten had a great time. The were playing relativley loud disco music, and some of the girls really got into it. There were always one to three of them on the dance floor. Now just imagine this in your mind: you enter a disco and see sexy naked ladies on the dance floor, but instead of having to dance yourself and slowly meet them, you can just waive them over and hump them. It was a great turn-on.
My first selection was Patricia, from Slovakia. In my opinion she had the best body in the entire place, a definite playbody model type, about 1.75 m tall, with a very pretty face. She sat down at the end of the bar and had a cigarette. I went over, and after about 5 minutes of chatting and smoking we went to the kino. BBBJ with very good eye contact. Took about 10 minutes. Then we simply moved into one of the three adjoining rooms. More BBBJ. Since she was tall enough, I decided to start sex standing up with me taking here from behind. This is probably my favorite position. Then we went onto the bed, with her on top. She used three or four different leg position while she was on top of me. It took me a very long time to finish, considering that this was my first encounter of the night, about 20 minutes. After it was over, she offered me another cigarette, and we cuddled a bit. An all-around great experience.
I could have gone home and would have been completely satisfied. But hey, that's just not me. Got to have more.
I went downstairs to check out what was doing on there. Not much actually. There were only about 5 girls in the huge living room, and one more doing it in the hot tub with a customer. They were having a great time in there. I avoided the hot tub after that. In the downstairs bar, there were about 7 or 8 local guys drinking champaign. No girls with them. It was very quiet downstairs. I went upstairs again to the disco music and the wild girls.
Sitting at the bar and drinking my Clausthaler beer (free), I watched the dancing. A couple of guys had sprung for a few bottles of bubbly, and some of the girls were getting a bit tipsy. This was great for the general atmosphere, with lots of laughter and wild action around the dance pole. Girls rubbing each others breasts and licking each other everywhere. Off the dance floor several girls were also gyrating their hips to the music. A few of them periodically came over to rub their back sides against the fronts of the guys at the bar. All kinds of touching and fondling. If you did not hold them there with you, they simply moved on and kept dancing.
One I kept, Stephanie from Bulgaria. She is about 1.6 m tall, with nice breast that are bigger than average. We danced a bit - if you want to call it this. I was simply behind her with my member getting a good rub from her dance motions. We moved to the kino. Long BBBJ session. Since the music comes in from the disco, she followed the rythm of the music. I was on my back on the (huge) front sofa, watching the porn flick, beer in one hand, cigarette in the other, Stephanie in front of me, working the member in the rythm of the disco music. How could this possbily get any better?
We again retreated to the same room that I had used before. She was working incredibly hard. So did I, but I simply did not cum. Oh well, no big deal to me. She was disappointed in herself. But we cuddled, and then she was fine. I stayed for another hour and a half after that, and whe kept coming by me periodically to give me a quick kiss or a wink with the eye or a quick brush-by. Very sweet girl. Highly recommended as well.
After the usual shower and cool-down period at the bar, I spotted Sevda, from Turkey. She has a very pretty face, with a bright smile. Her body is of medium height, 1.65 m I would guess. She is thin with smallish breasts. I winked at her a couple of times, but then went over to the dining room to eat some soup first. It was 1 am and I was getting hungry. Plus I figured I needed some nutrition to get me through just one more round. When I returned to the bar, she came over to me. She sat on my lap, and we started kissing. She offered me a cigarette, and we just had a very pleasant time. Occasional kissing and soft stroking.
I wanted to break my routine, and so I asked her to go to a room without BBBJ beforehand. We went downstairs. I told her to do it very softly. She obliged more than happily. She told me that she was very tight. I said that this is an advantage. So she carefully put herself on top of me and slowly inserted. Tight indeed, great feeling. We pumped for quite a while before I went in all the way. Very stimulating. She was on top first, then doggie style, then me on top with her legs over my shoulders. We were really starting to work up a sweat, when after 20 minutes or so relief finally came. Great session."
And here is a description of three more excellent workeers and my encounters with them:
"Celine, from Ghana. Deep ebony skin color, petite; very slim, but relatively big natural breasts. Nice smile. She spoke perfect English, and we joked around for a while. I had a hard time not coming already during the skillfully administered BBBJ in the Kino. (Nice symmetry: A movie was running where a black guy did a white women.) We went next door and finished relatively quickly. Two positions only. Well, no surprise: I had a lot of energy stored, and it needed release.
I went for Alina, from Rumania. She is pretty tall, not too thin, very soft and ample breasts. She has reddish-brown hair, shoulder length. Best feature, in my opinion, is her face. She has this voluptuous mouth that just seems to wait to take in my member. And her eyes have this bedroom look that just says f___ me.
BBBJ in the Kino was ok, but she did not seem to get too much into it. OK, fine. This happens. We went downstairs to a room with a big bed. Since she is tall, I started out doing her from behind, in the standing position. My favorite! With her on top, I came relatively quickly. She was not into it, and I did not make any further attempts to interest her. Just thinking of myself and unloading. That is not bad, once in a while.
At the downstairs bar, this blonde, Anastasia, from Czech Republic, was already sitting with another guy. Bummer! But I flirted a bit with the bar girl, had a chat with another guy about comparisons to Atlantis, and had a couple of beers. My trip to the lower-level bar was not entirely wasted, I decided. But I went upstairs to look for some other candidate for my next session. Anastasia was still sitting next to here chosen one at the bar.
But 5 minutes later she was upstairs as well. Her guy did not bite. Cool! I moved next to her onto the sofa. For 10 minutes we just talked and watched some of the other girls do their slutty dancing at the pole. Anastasia is funny, outgoing, and easy to chat with. So far we hadn’t even touched yet. Then she pointed this out, and we started kissing and petting. She is very tall, blond, excellent playboy centerfold figure. I have had the experience that this type is not the best in the sack, but Anastasia proved me wrong, in an absolutely glorious way. She picked the room that was absolutely the most remote in the entire building. She gave me a great BBBJ, even though she went to town a little hard on my balls for my taste. I paid her back, and she started moaning pretty lood. She helped out with her own hands, obviously wanting to come. Great! Real two-way sex! I had the chance to try her in just about every position that I know. It was probably the most athletic sex I ever had. But 35-40 sweaty minutes later I still had not come. She did, though, and we called it a day. I was completely satisfied. She joked that we should get married. After I paid her, we still French-kissed for quite a while, our sweaty bodies rubbing against each other."
So there are a few names for all of you to check out during the (hopefully very short) Andrea-free period: Anastasia, Celine, Alina, Sevda, Stephanie, Patricia. United Nations!
I find it interesting to read about one girls reputation at a club that offers so many choices. I probably would have never noticed Andrea if it was'nt for a few referrals from the guys I was sitting with back in March. She has a way of relaxing you the minute she starts eye contact. Unbelievable manor for a young women.
Saying all this, its too bad that she took some time off but in reality she surely deserved it. She probably worked at least 5 days a week, probably 5-10 sessions a day minimum! I am surprised she did'nt gain some weight after all the finales she performed on many men. She was so bright eyed about what she does both for the men she meets and her own enjoyment of sex. She told me " men need it, I like it.." She did not mention how much money she makes but I can only assume that she made enough to take an extended Holliday.
Who is the next star of World, please let us know !
Regards,
Lanrac
Just in case anybody is interested - Andrea is back. She arrived back on the day of accession (May 1)
I'm hoping to go back to World June 8 - 11. If anyybody else is going to be there we could say hi
(I'm putting this out now since last time I went another member and myself were there but didn't know and then spent a surreal PM correspondence trying to identify each other retrospectively!)
Is anybody from this board going to be there next Saturday, the 15th? Would be cool to hook up.
Euro
Fkk world friday 7 May 04
Arrived at World around 4 pm, P2 was already full, and in P3 atleast 30 cars
There were already 20 or more girls, as I always do at World I enjoy the services, this mean that for the first hour I just look around and relax in the wirpool, sauna, solarium etc.
Poli 20 something from Bulgaria? (I can't remember)
1,70 I would give her a 8 1/2 we had a nice conversation in the relax room while I was watching F1, she gaves me a really nice GFE, we went in the room and we had sex in many position and I finished with CIM option.
I can give her a 8
ANDREA you all already know everything about this girl, I used the news from this forum to start conversation with her, telling her that a "friend" of mine told me everything about , and so on. She gave one of the most beatifull BBBJ of my (young) life taking it ALL (she's really a deep throat). And one of the best GFE I ever had in a FKK.
I can give her a 10+.
My last selection was a Lituanian Blonde girl (dont remeber the name) at least 1.80 m, nothing to remember.
Vote 5 --
Thats it after 8 hours and 200 € (+ the entrance fee) I reached my car with a Big Big Smile.
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Matteo77,
That would be Polina. Not mind blowing sex but in my eyes a stunner of a young girl and sweet to the nth degree.
I'd marry this one if she wasn't half my age. :(
hey i think I will be going on sunday the 16 (afternoon until i get tired)is this a recmendable day? I liked atantis on this day.
RD
If I can just re-check.
For next Saturday night which would be the best FKK club to go to, for that first wow factor.
I was after the one with the best looking girls, with the best party atmosphere.
It seems like Palace, World, or Oase from the reports. I shall have a car and only plan on visting one club.
I am going to the airport faily early next day, so I shall not be up too late. I suppose one that's nearer the airport would be a small bonus.
I also like girls with the more latin type look.
Any more views would be great, to help me decide.
Do you ever see any couples in the FKK clubs?
Just curious.
I would vote for World.
Travelman
Go to World if your looking for Wow. Go to Palace if your looking for convenience.
My.02
Any more advice on my post regarding the best FKK?
TravelMen,
I would vote for World as well. As a matter of fact, this is where I will be heading Saturday afternoon. (I am drooling already!)
Euro
How long would it take to get from world to the airport, by road ,on Sunday morning.
My flight is at 11am.
Are there any decent hotels near world?
You can stay at World until it closes at 4:00 A.M and make it to the airport by 11:00 A.M :-) Sounds like a plan!
TravelMen,
It should not take more than 45 minutes to drive that distance at that time. German highways is the best in the world. Just follow A5 to the Frankfurt Flughafen. You cant miss it.
I stayed once in this hotel in Lich. It is a 5-7 min drive from World:
http://www.ambientehotel-lich.de/
You will find a map under "anfahrt"
Good Luck
Ron
Well, I read that World thins out around midnight.
If that's the case I would rather leave around 11-12 for a good nights sleep, as I have a busy day after.
Does World sell alcohol?
Any ideas for hotels?
I would not dismiss World entirely as a bad post midnight venue. It might certainly quiet down a bit from earlier peak hours, and there may well be some girls who pack it up at 01.00, I personally find the post-midnight scene at World most attractive. There is a largish core of girls that stay late at World, till near closing actually. Some may live at or very near World, I think. This group includes several of the regular Russian, Czech, Bulagarian and Romanian girls. They stay quite late. Also on weekend nights, girls come down from other towns like D-dorf, Koln, Dortmund, etc. and they tend to stay late, esp if they're at the club to work the whole weekend.
So in some respects, the post mid-night buzz at World is better than earlier: at least the girl-boy ratio can be quite favourable.
Even if I landed at Frankfurt Airport at, say, 22.00 or even later: I would have no hesitation about hiring a car and driving the 30-40 minutes or so to World to start partying. It is that kind of place...
TravelMen,
For just one night, why don't you skip the hotel and stay over at World. They also rent out room for the night for about 100 euros, as from 1am. More expensive than hotel room, but more convenient. You can also try to negotiate with the girl to stay overnight with you or come back next morning for a last morning session, in particular if she lives at World too.
Jim
Thanks, but I still think I shall go for the hotel.
It would be nice to have a rest /shower before also.
What are the rooms there like? I don't really fancy sleeping in a room full of 20 guy's hormones from before.
So World to airport is 40 minutes? That's OK.
Any ideas of a good hotel near by? Or should I just turn up and look for one?
Can you buy alcohol there? If not I shall take the car.
Travel Man,
I usually fly into FRA or finish my business in the evening, drive acar to one of the clubs and spend the night there. The adrenaline flows while you're there- you won't need to (or want to) sleep until afterwards. If I'm tired then I take an extra long break between sessions find a nice quiet corner, cover myself with 2 towels, and nap surrounded by naked nymphs of all sizes and shapes, and the sound of actors (if I'm in the kino) or real people in the throes of sex. Sweet lullaby...
At closing time drive back to the airport return the car and have breakfast in the business lounge. You can alwasy sleep on the plane, man! Then I expense account the club instead of the hotel, so it's a net gain.
Enjoy!
TravelMen:
Check this:
http://www.giessen-tourist.de/giessen/hotels.htm
If that doesn't work, go to Google, choose Advanced Search.
In the field "with all the words", type in: Pohlheim.
In the field "with the exact phrase", type in: da Giovanni
One of the top 5 or so search results should get you to the above URL.
You should find a list of hotels near Giessen, including phone numbers and some with email addresses so you can check with them in advance whether or not a room will be available, and the cost; and, if so, you can make a reservation.
On my trip in late April, I stayed in Giessen near the train station at a place called the Parkhotel, which did have parking in the rear. You would do best to use Mapquest to find it if you choose this option. It is not very far from Giessen, but there are certainly hotels closer to World. The only reason I stayed there is that I was relying on trains and taxi's and Parkhotel was very close to the train station in Giessen. The taxi's were expensive however, and I hope to learn of a hotel close enough to World that I could just walk between the hotel and the FKK club.
It looks like there are a number of hotels closer to World, but I have not checked into these other possibilities, so I can not give advice about them. If you find a hotel close to Giessen, please report back after your trip to give information on the hotel (location, price, the level of your satisfaction, etc).
The neighborhood closest to Giessen is Garbenteich (I think). I am very interested in finding out if there is a hotel in that neighborhood.
Have fun.
Thanks Iseeu
Can you guarantee a room on a Saturday night though?
Are they fairly comfortable?
What time must you leave?
And can you buy beer/alcohol at world?
Can you just confirm the travel time back to the airport?
Thanks again
Travel,
I've never used this service of theirs but I think that the rooms are guaranteed after 1 a.m.. Call the club and they'll tell you. Most of the rooms in World are very comfortable, but of course it's not set up as a hotel so you won't have an ensuite full bath, etc.
I think that you need to leave by 10 a.m. and as posted here previously if you're lucky you can bang a hottie before leaving without paying the entrance fee again.
It is one of the few FRA are FKK clubs that sells beer. Other drinks except Red Bull are free.
Depending on the time of day, weather conditions, construction on the A-bahn, and how quickly you're willing to fly down the A5, it shouldn't take more than 45 minutes, except during morning rush hours.
I'm on my there now for a nightcap!
Enjoy.
I am going from Dusseldorf. Is the easiest way is A45 then A5?
From world to the airport is it just A5?
I assume the airport and rental car place is easy to find?
D-dorf is reached via the A3 (richtung Koln), if you are travelling from Frankfurt.
World to Frankfurt Airport: Is reached by taking A5 south following signs to Frankfurt. Once you get near the city, you will see signs for Frankfurt Flghaven. Follow signs to Airport and then exit for Terminal 1 (A,B,C). Once off this exit ramp there are clear green and white signs for Rent-a-car Return.
Hope this helps...
TravelMen,
Buy a map at a gas station its worth the money. From the airport you should take A3 in direction of Koln. Then take A4 direction Olpe. After that you will come to A45 and follow direction Giessen. When you come to Gambacher kreuz take A5 direction Kassel. After then take first take-off to Fernwald. You will then be close to world. After Fernwald follow to the right and take ther first left after a few 100 meter in direction of Pohlheim. Then another 1-1,5 kilmeter you will have a traffic light. Take left in direction Garbenteich. Then the first turn right, after then another right. Follow over the railroad and then you will se the parking spot.
On the way down A45 there is a very nice scenery I specially like the nature around Siegen. A3 is heavy trafficed but A4 and A45 are much more quiet. A45 is a nice highway to drive on.
As you say from World to airport just hit A5 direction Frankfurt, you cant miss it.
Have a nice trip.
I'm headed to World for the first time this Wednesday May 19. It's my first time to World - in search of a replacement to my favorite Atlantis.
Any other mongers care to meet up?
RTW
Thanks Ronnie and RTW
Perfect directions.
DAY 5
This was a Thursday night before a Friday party and the place had very few men, probably because everyone was saving themselves for the next night. But there were lots of women, and they were understandably unhappy since most of them were just sitting around without doing any business. If this were my first day in Germany this would have been a great opportunity since all the best girls were available, but unfortunately I was a little spent. Several girls asked me if I was tired and I was a little puzzled and wondered why they were asking me until it dawned on me and I pointed at my head and then at my crotch and said “do you mean here, or here? Oh, yes, then I’m very tired.”
Olina (again)
Olina was grateful that I had introduced her to they joys of sex in a room with other people in it, but it now seemed she wanted to go to a room (“you mean like normal people?” I added, and got a laugh). We went out to one of the cabins in the yard, since it was fairly warm out. I liked it there. When you are in the club you are always surrounded by either music or grunting from a video. It was nice to hear only the chirping of the birds. We had the usual great sex with cim.
Mina: Thai, 24, face 8, body 8, attitude GFE 10+. Highly recommended.
I sat with Mina on the sofa between the pool and the porno TV downstairs. Deep kissing led to another great session, including multiple positions and finishing on top of her on the rug. My description is short, but the session was long and great.
Maria: Latvia, 22, face 9, body 8, attitude GFE 10. Highly recommended.
I had seen Maria two days before and asked her if she wanted to have sex in the main room or on the sofa in the TV room downstairs. She said no, that she would go to the kino with me, and said that she doubted that any other girl would do it in the main room or the TV room. I told her I was pretty sure that she was mistaken (although at that time I had asked several girls who had all turned me down), and that I would get back to her after having some more exotic experiences.
Well, now that I had succeeded in finding what I was looking for I was ready to go with her. She was beautiful, friendly, sexy, and nice to be with. It was another great session on a sofa in the kino with great kissing and many positions.
Anna: Belarusian, 21, face 9, body 9, attitude GFE 10. Highly recommended.
Anna is another beautiful girl who I had passed up several times because she would only go with me in the kino. Actually, the first time I saw her several months ago she would only go with me and another girl, didn’t speak much English or German, and so the potential for miscommunication seemed high. Since then her English and German both seem to have improved.
Once again, great sex, great kissing, multiple positions. She is athletic with strong (but shapely) thighs, and liked doing most of the work. She gave me the impression that she could crush me between her legs if she chose to, so if you are into this she might be the one for you.
Lila: German, 24, face 6, body 10, attitude 4. Not recommended.
Lila is a pain in the ass.
By this time I was pretty worn out and decided that I would go for one more session only if I could find a girl who would do it on the public bed in the main room. Lila has a hot body, but her face is only so-so and I realize now looking back that she shows very little emotion. I was a little surprised when she agreed to what I wanted.
The “sex” began with extensive chit chat, even though we didn’t have much language in common. A lot of time was devoted to her dragging her nails across my chest in what she seemed to hope would pass or substitute for erotic foreplay. We were well into the session when the blow job began, and not only was it uninspired, but she began uncomfortably scratching my balls with her nails. I pushed her hand away and she asked “what’s wrong?” This required interrupting what she was doing and sliding up towards my head so that we could discuss the logistics of this complicated effort. I explained that I didn’t like what she was doing with her nails.
Now we had to start over again with warm-up, dragging her nails across my chest, and only eventually back to the blow job. Almost immediately she started scratching my balls again with her damned nails, and again I pushed her away. She tried to stall again, but this time I got a little angry, said “stop that”, and she continued without scratching.
When I got on top of her she was reluctant to kiss and I didn’t have much desire to anyway. Then she started scratching my back and I pushed her hand away. We had to have another discussion about this. When I didn’t finish after 10 minutes or so she wanted to go back to blowing me, but she did it badly and gradually moved to a hand job. I got bored and finally ended the session without finishing. Can’t say for sure whether it was a deliberate attempt to avoid doing what was expected or whether she is just that way and her boyfriend gets the same treatment. Not a great end to a great trip, but I was so spent at that point that a great session would have been wasted on me anyway.
SUMMARY
What a fabulous trip. I look back at all the wonderful girls I spent time with and all the wild experiences I had and it makes me feel great. Next time I’m in Germany I’ll plan to spend at least most of my time here. I’ll try some other clubs just for variety, I suppose, but this club is king for now, at least in the Frankfurt area, if not all Germany or even the world.
DAY 4
Yolanda (again)
I had been thinking about Yolanda from the first day and wanted to see her again before she went back to Bulgaria. This time she said she didn’t want to do it in front of other people, so we went on the sofa in the kino and still had a great time.
Monica: German, 27, face 7, body 7, attitude GFE 10+. Highly recommended.
I saw Monica in the main room and asked if she wanted have sex there. She looked me with the same puzzled expression that many girls have when I ask this and which is usually followed by something to the effect of “are you crazy?” But her confusion was of a different nature, and she said “why wouldn’t I?”
We sat on one of the big leather sofas by the big window far from the bar and began kissing. We did it in lots of positions and she was eager about everything. It was early evening and the room was moderately full. I was running out of gas by now, so we went on for a long time and got a bit sweaty.
I usually give a girl a little extra when we do it in the main room. I was a little put off when she asked me if I would give her a tip since I didn’t know what she expected, but when I gave her 70 instead of 50, which is what I was planning to give anyway, she seemed very happy.
Leona: Czech, 22, face 8, body 9, attitude GFE 10+. Highly recommended.
I had walked past Leona several times and had her on my to do list. I asked her if she would do it on the bed in the main room and she said yes. She has a huge, nice smile, and seemed comfortable and eager about it.
We got on the bed and closed the curtains. It was another great GFE experience with lots of positions and great kissing. She seemed a little excited when she noticed some people watching us. I wasn’t able to finish, but it certainly wasn’t her fault. Her English is better than that of most other girls, so it was more fun to talk to her.
DAY 3
Chana: Turkish, 24, face 7, body 10, attitude 9. Recommended (but see below)
Chana looked hot and she said we could do it on the sofa in the TV room downstairs. It was pretty much as a good an experience as with all the other nice girls until it was time to finish. I asked her for cim and she said yes. Her English was pretty good, and I asked her a second time to confirm. When I was ready I pulled out, yanked off the condom and started moving towards her face. As a couple of drops fell on her stomach she said “don’t cum in my mouth”. I said “but I asked you”, and she said “no”. Then I said ok, I’d put the condom back on and finish, but she pointed to the couple of drops that had fallen and said that I had already cum on her body, and that was 50 extra.
I agreed to finish on her tits, but I now wish I had told her she was being ridiculous, that I wasn’t going to finish and I wasn’t going to pay 50 extra. If she had gone to the manager I could have just been polite and asked the manager what the rule is. Maybe I would have had to pay anyway, but then at least she wouldn’t do the same trick to the next person. I’m not sure if she just doesn’t let anyone do cim, or if she was saying that I had already spent my 50 extra by dropping a little bit on her stomach (what is this, are we back in Amsterdam?). Afterwards she tried to be friendly and told me that there was a confusion because her English isn’t good, but I didn’t believe her and gave her a bit of a hard time. I wouldn’t recommend against going to a room with her since she was nice, but I would recommend against doing cim or trying to negotiate any extras.
Suza: Bulgarian, 24, face 9, body 8, attitude 9. Highly recommended.
I didn’t pick Suza when I first talked to her since she wouldn’t do it in the main room of the TV room, but now that I had gotten that out of my system I decided to see what she was like. She said she would do it on the sofa in the kino, although she had never done it there before.
When we got there she tried to pull a strange and annoying trick. She said that we couldn’t do it in the kino because the security personnel at the club would see us and we would get in trouble. She said this in a way that seemed intended to frighten me and even though there were one or two other couple going at it on other sofas right then and there. I told her that this was nonsense, that I had done it here before, and that other people were doing it as we spoke, and she let it drop. She might also have asked me at one point if I was going to finish soon, but otherwise it was good sex with lots of good kissing and several positions and if you want to just go to a room with her and have regular sex you will probably have a fine time.
Olina: Bulgarian, 20, face – Incredible. No number can convey it. Go see for yourself, body 8. Attitude GFE 10. Highly recommended.
Olina (not Alina) has a gorgeous and exotic face. It is something out of the Arabian nights (although she is Bulgarian). She has long light brown hair, is medium height, has a full chest, and isn’t skinny but isn’t overweight either. (I usually don’t describe girls so fully in respect of their privacy, but Olina explicitly gave me permission to talk about her on the web.)
She wasn’t interested in doing anything in the main room or the TV room, but agreed to do it in the kino. It was her first time there. She was friendly and sexy. I finished with cim. She was a little shy about making a mess on her face, so most of it stayed in her mouth, which was too bad.
She seemed to think it was funny doing it in the kino where other people could see, and sometimes laughed or had short giggly conversations with other girls who were passing by on their way to the rooms. But she said that next time she wanted to go to the room. She had had lots of men that day and thought that was funny too. She probably doesn’t need me to advertise her, since she is so beautiful that most people would take a chance on her anyway, but sometimes the really gorgeous girls can be cold or difficult and that is not the case with her. Olina is friends with Suza and they like to do 2-girl sessions, although they don’t do lesbian.
Katrina: Polish, 30, face 8, body 8, attitude GFE 10+. Highly recommended.
Katrina is really pretty and looks much younger than she is. We decided to have sex on a sofa in the TV room. Another couple was sitting on the sofa facing us. I’m not sure if they were about to get started or if they had just finished, but they ended up having a good time watching us. We did a lot of positions, including ones like spoon, RC, and getting down on the rug in missionary that made it easier for the other couple to see, and I noticed them watching and smiling at us and at each other. The whole time Katrina was smiling too and seemed to enjoy being a porn actress. She was great to be with.
After three earlier pops I wasn’t able to finish a fourth time. When we stopped it might have been nice to swap partners with the other couple who was watching us, but I was pretty spent, and I didn’t know if they would have been interested anyway. I had a little more food and then left.
DAY 2
My visit to Paradise in the early evening was fine, but not up to the standard of FKK World, so after I had satisfied myself that I had experienced this new club (see my report under the Paradise thread which I posted a week or so ago) I returned to my favorite club.
Jennifer: Hungarian, 21, face 6.5, body 5, attitude 4. Not recommended.
The previous day a nice Bulgarian girl had approached me, but it was right after I had finished with another girl and so I turned her down. I asked her if she would have sex with me on the public bed in the main room later and she said yes. So I approached her tonight, but unfortunately she had since changed her mind. However, she said that her friend was interested.
I wasn’t enormously excited about her friend largely because, well, check out the adverbs in this sentence. And she had an unnatural look, with waffled hair, tattoos, and piercings. But even though she was a little heavy she looked fit and had tight skin, and there aren’t that many girls who will do it on the public bed, so I decided it could be fun. There turned out to be nothing awful about her, but she wouldn’t kiss at all and would do bj only with a condom. It was like being in Amsterdam. It was a lackluster experience and after coming five times the night before and popping once at Paradise earlier tonight there was no way I was going to finish with her.
Margo: Russian, 27, face 7, body 6.5, attitude 7. Halfheartedly recommended.
Margo was ok. She has a nice chest, but is a little heavy. She agreed to have sex in the TV room and then after blowing me asked to go to a room and acted surprised when I didn’t want to. Well I had already made a scene over this once, so I gave in and agreed to go to a room, even though I though that she had understood what I wanted.
When we looked for a room, however, we found there was a wait, so she took be back to the TV room and led me to the countertop by the bar in front of the sports TV. This was a little more private, so she was fine with it, and I thought it was kind of cool and raunchy. We did it only in missionary. It wasn’t greatly inspired, but it was good enough to get me off again.
Clara (again)
I was sitting on a sofa in the TV room and she sat down next to me. She said, “sex here? You like sex here? You want to do sex here” or something like that in broken English. I was a little surprised, since she didn’t want to do this before, but I said sure. I asked her again to make sure. Sex here? Ok.
She gave me the same great deep throat blowjob as before and then said lets go to the room. I said wait a minute, that it was her idea to do it right here on the sofa, and she looked confused, but agreed. So we had great sex in many positions with several people watching, ending up on the floor. But now I really was spent, so I couldn’t finish. Still it was great. She is a star.
Tina: Romanian, 25, face 6, body 7, attitude GFE 10+. Highly recommended.
It was late and I was feeling a little tired, but a girl came to me and asked if I liked to have sex in the public bed in the main room. I said yes and she brought me to her friend, Tina.
Tina was very enthusiastic. We had really good sex in front of everyone and then lay and talked for a while. She is very friendly and was good company during the session and after in addition to being sexy.
DAY 1
Valeria: Rumanian, 29, Face 7. Body 7. Attitude GFE 10+. Highly recommended.
I wanted to have sex in the main room in front of everyone. After asking a couple of girls who turned me down I sat next to Valeria, a nice looking girl with frizzy brown hair, on the leather sofa in front of the dining area. I asked her if she wanted to have sex right there on the sofa and she looked at me and said “Love is my job.” I said “Yes, but do you understand? I want to do it right here. Blowjob, sex ... everything. Right here.” She smiled and said “Love is my job. I will do it wherever I am asked to. “ Cool!
We started with deep kissing, moving to a blowjob and 69. There were several other nice girls on the sofas facing us some of whom were smiling while other looked disinterested. She put a condom on me and we did cowgirl, mish, rc, spoon, and missionary. As I got ready to come I asked if cim was ok and it was, but I suggested that we go to the kino. I think this was better for her since having great sex in front of everyone may have gotten other guys hot for her, but doing a cim might have turned them off (she later told me that she agreed with this reasoning). For me it was better because instead of finishing right away it meant starting over to get back to the point of completion.
We went to the front sofa in the kino, got back on track with some bj, and then I got on top of her. We finished with a nice messy facial that went all over her mouth, chin, and chest.
She told me that she has had sex on the sofa in the room several times and that she likes it more than sex in the private rooms. She said that when she has sex in the private rooms she usually doesn’t come, but when she has sex in the main room she usually comes.
Sylvia: Polish, 22, face 6.5, body 7.5, Attitude GFE 10. Recommended.
Ok, I did the main room; now I wanted to have sex in the TV room downstairs. I asked Sylvia, who I had seen on previous visits but never gone to a room with, if she was interested. She said yes. We went downstairs and sat on the sofa in front of the porno screen facing the pool. I said “sex hier, ja? Wier maken alles hier, ok? “Ja.” We kissed and she went down on me.
Then she said “ok, we go to the room.” Uh oh. “No, wir machen sex hier.” Short story is she refused. I was a little annoyed because I though I had been pretty clear and I suspected this was a trick. OK. I said I would pay her 20 for the bj. No! She wanted 50. We argued and went upstairs where she spoke with one of her friends who spoke better English than she did. The friend turned to me and said “ok, so give her 20 for the blowjob.” Fine. The girls smile, Sylvia follows me to my locker, and I give her 25 (a little more because she was nice). No! Oh boy. Now we go to the manager. We each tell our side and I explain that she agreed to have sex in the TV room but now she doesn’t want to, so why don’t I just give her a 20 for the bj. The manager snarls “This isn’t a Turkish bazaar!” Ok, so I agree to finish up with her in the kino, which annoys me a little, but then in the kino everything was as GFE as I have come to expect here, so in the end I was not too unhappy. I don’t know whether she took advantage of my request for an unusual service or not, but I think that if you go for normal sex with her you will probably be happy and have no problems. Afterwards we were friendly with one another.
Karina: Lithuanian, 25, face 7, body 7, Attitude GFE 10. Highly recommended
Karina has a crazy smile like someone who is on some serious drugs (though I don’t mean to suggest that she is). She’s not slender, but I wouldn’t call her overweight either. I remember her body as being like that of porn actress Ariana Joleee.
I still hadn’t had sex in the TV room, so that seemed like it should be my next target. She agreed to come with me to the same sofa facing the pool that I had just been on with Sylvia, only this time there was no misunderstanding. Great kissing. When she blew me she had a huge open mouthed smile with a giggle. She acted like she thought sucking my d--- was better than winning the lottery (I think so, but some women don’t).
With me in a sitting position on the sofa she put a condom on me and got on top of me. There were two couples in front of us and one of them eventually left to go to a room while the other took a cue from us and went all the way right there next to us. We did several positions and I especially remember spooning her on the rug while the other couple was in front of us doing cowgirl on the sofa and couples were streaming past us on their way to rooms for sex. The whole time she had a huge smile and was giggling and kissing me wildly, including contorting herself a little to turn and kiss me while we spooned.
Yolanda: Bulgarian, 21, face 7, body 10, attitude GFE 10. Highly recommended.
Yolanda is young and looks even younger. Her face is ordinary, but her body is spectacular. She is thin and soft and slinky and sexy.
She agreed to have sex on one of the sofas in the big TV room by the pool, though she has a shy personality and seemed a little hesitant about it. This time I was very careful about making sure that she agreed and giving her every opportunity to change her mind if she didn’t want to. We did it on a sofa in the space between the two big plasma TVs. After the bj she asked if I didn’t want to go to the kino and I said that I wanted to do it here as we had agreed and she said ok. Once we got going she seemed to have no problem all with it. Great kissing, several positions, people coming and going...
By now I had shot 3 times and wasn’t sure how much ammunition I had left. It was great being able to last so long, but I wondered if she was going to get tired at some point and also worried a little about the time since I didn’t want to spend another 50 euro. I told her that when ½ hour was up she should let me know. Well, her English isn’t great, and neither is her German, so there was a little confusion about this and she started talking about an hour and I wasn’t sure if she was asking me if I wanted an hour or saying that this was more than half an hour, so I decided to stop it. I said “this is ½ hour, ok?” and she seemed fine with that.
She has since left to go back to Bulgaria. She wants to enroll in university. I hope it works out for her, but I would also be happy if she decided that she needed to come back to Germany to earn a little spending money during her vacations.
Julia: German, 22, face 7, body 7, Attitude GFE 10+. Highly recommended.
I asked Julia if she would do it on the public bed in the main room upstairs and she agreed. She is tall, thin, and blonde. She was completely uninhibited and we had great sex with many positions in front of everyone. It was her first time on the public bed, the first time she had even seen it happen, in fact, but she had only been working there a couple of weeks. She smiled the whole time and seemed to enjoy what she was doing. She was my fifth girl that night but she was able to finish me off.
She was interesting to talk to because her English was better than that of most of the girls. I told her that I was surprised that I was able to finish again and told her that “I thought I would need a forklift just to get it up.” She understood, though I had to explain what a forklift was.
At some point I mentioned magic mushrooms being available in Holland. I asked her if she had ever tried them and said that it would be fun to bring some to Germany. I knew they were illegal in Germany, but I didn’t know how much trouble I would be in if I got caught and wondered if it would be worth the risk. She said first that possessing them is taken very seriously and that if you get caught you are likely to go to prison, and secondly that if you bring them to a club you are at particularly high risk because the police might raid the club, search the lockers, and then you go to jail. If there is any discretion involved in sentencing I don’t imagine that being caught in the FKK club would work in your favor, nor would it go over well back home when you didn’t return to work on time and your concerned employer or loved ones eventually got their hands on a police report that began: “When the officers entered the premises they observed the suspect, obviously maddened by the effects of the illegal substance he had consumed, in the process of performing sex acts on a large bed in the center of a room crowded with men and naked women...” Anyone who has had the same idea I did should consider this warning.
Identity withheld: Rip-off, but possibly not with everyone.
She agreed to have sex with me on one of the sofas in the TV room. Then when we got there she changed her mind, but still insisted that we do a session. First she led me to the sofa in the back stairwell leading up to the reception. I said no. Then she said what about the sofa in the tanning room. Ok, I settled for that.
The bj lasted for only a few seconds. When we started sex in missionary there was hardly any kissing. Then the condom broke. I immediately went to the nearest shower to clean off. When I came back she said that we couldn’t continue because she didn’t have any condoms left. I told her this was ridiculous and she left to get another condom, but only after I insisted several times.
Just as we had arrived a girl had turned on the tanning machine, which displayed a timer that started at 15 minutes. It now indicated that there were 8 minutes remaining. That meant we had been there for 7 minutes, and I had taken a shower during that time, so the sex had only lasted some 2-4 minutes. Sylvia was seated on the sofa across from us. I pointed in the direction of the girl who had just left and made a thumbs down sign and Sylvia nodded.
She returned with a condom, but now I was soft. She took my d--- in her hand, looked at it, and let it drop. She bent over to do a bj and then seemed to change her mind and sat up. We sat next to each other for some 20 seconds exchanging glances. Then I started to complain, saying, what are we going to do, just sit here? Eventually I progressed to saying that I’m not paying 50 euros to sit next to a girl for 30 minutes. Still no response, so I went to management.
I was happy that the shift at the front desk had changed, so the woman I had complained to earlier wasn’t there. She said that she had no way of knowing what happened, so I had to pay. The rip off girl lied and said that we had been having sex for 30 minutes and I had a loud argument with her in front of the manager. The next night when I was there and saw the rip-off girl returning from the locker I asked the guy she was with how she was and he said she was good, so maybe the complaining had an effect and caused her to clean up her act.
Later on that second night when I took a different girl to a room the rip-off girl called out to her friend to watch out because I’m no good. So again I complained (nicely) and this time the manager (same woman) was much more sympathetic to me and asked me to point out the rip-off girl to her and then went and scolded her.
Someone later told me that if you have a problem with a girl they will always make you pay but then they will talk to her and let her know that she has a strike against her. So if you do have a real problem (don’t do it for something trivial) you should complain; not to get your money back, but to get some justice and make it harder for her to cause problems for others. Remember, she is hurting all the other girls as well as well as the men since the men will be less likely to come back if they have a bad experience. When I went back a couple of weeks later the rip-off girl was gone. I decided not to post her name or describe her since I think I have already caused significant problems for her and the next guy I saw her with was happy with her, so maybe it was just one mistake - possibly related to the unusual request for sex in public – and maybe she has since cleaned up her act.
Clara: Romanian, 20, face 9, body 10, attitude GFE 10+. Highly recommended.
Clara is beautiful. She has very short black hair. I tried unsuccessfully to get her to come with me to the TV room downstairs, but she agreed to go to the kino. We had great enthusiastic sex on the sofa closest to the door, including wild kissing, multiple positions, and the best deep throat bj I have ever had. My description here is short only because there were no unusual antics surrounding the sex; she was great. I came for the 5th time that night.
Another series of glorious visits to FKK World! Now that Atlantis is gone (hopefully not for good) this club clearly reigns as the undisputed number 1 club in Germany in my book.
(Note: I am dividing my long report up into several posts, which I am uploading in reverse order so that they can be read from top to bottom.)
On most nights there were huge crowds including a great selection of girls. On Saturday it got a little overcrowded and there were waits for bedrooms and sometimes even a shortage of places to sit in the main rooms. On most days there were periods when all the girls seemed to disappear and I ended up wandering around looking at other men or at couples waiting for a room, but then the girls would come back in waves.
I wasn’t able to go to a party that they had on Friday. (I didn’t really get a clear idea of why every night wouldn’t already be considered a party.) One girl said there would be stripteases (?) and a dj. I was there the Thursday before and it was a bit of a downer because there were few men and the ones that were there were generally old and fat. It seemed that everyone who might have gone on this day decided that it made sense instead to wait one more day and go to the party. The girls were all unhappy because they weren’t doing any business and the usual buzz with sex going on in all corners of the club wasn’t there. The private rooms and the kino were mostly empty. There were more girls than usual coming to sit with me and pressure me a little bit into going to a room with them. On the positive side all of the girls, even the best ones, were available most of the time, but I usually don’t find the availability of girls to be a problem even on a crowded night, and having already spent two nights in a row there I wasn’t able to benefit from this opportunity.
I wrote a long detailed review at the end of January and my visits this month were similar. The most remarkable thing is how almost every girl here makes me feel like she is my girlfriend or better (better in the sense that a girlfriend would probably not do some of the things that these girls to do with a big smile). I’ll post full details separately. There were lots of new girls – maybe a 50 % turnover since my last visit in January - and several beauties. There were also significant changes from one night to the next.
Entry was only 43 Euro on 2 of the days I went because they were having a special. The buffet was not as good as it was a few months ago, particularly on the discounted entry days, with lots of pasta salad, spaghetti with meat sauce, kielbasa, etc... instead of real meats and vegetables. But it still compares well to buffets in other clubs and they always keep the table stocked with something. Maybe if Atlantis reopens they will jack the quality back up to compete.
On this visit, more than in January, I found there to be a few overbearing girls who I didn’t want to go with who wouldn’t leave me alone. Some of them would come and lean against my seat with both arms, one on either side of me, so I was trapped, and just stare at me for as much as an entire minute. Some would ask if I wanted to go to a room with them and when I said no they said “why not?” For me it’s a good lesson on understanding how a beautiful girl that I am hitting on back in my country might feel if I am too insistent. Management needs to tell a couple of them to knock this off.
One of the girls told me that the club has rooms that you can stay in instead of at a hotel. I asked the management about this and they verified that there are rooms with bathrooms for 100 Euro per night. I don’t think these are the rooms that are used for sex during club hours. If this includes free entry to the club then it would be a good deal. Also I saw a car with an FKK-World logo on it so I asked if they have their own taxi service and the answer was yes. I asked them if they also offer day care, dry cleaning, or financial services, and the answer was no.
I have been to this club several times and always thought they had a shortage of toilets. This time, however, I discovered that there is a large bathroom next to the ATM machine in the reception area that I didn’t’ know about.
Mai 15 at FKKW
I arrived at 3:30 in the afternoon. Mindful of my record-keeping duties, I ventured on a walk through the entire place, counting the number of providers present. I counted 36 that were in view at that moment. Other girls may have been in the rooms at that time, but those were the ones I counted.
Unfortunately, Christina (with the Daniel-tattoo on her back) was just about ready to leave. I wouldn’t have said no to her. Daniela, Lena, and Andrea (some of my all-time favorites) were not in this count either; they arrived a little later. A few other high quality providers also arrived between 4 and 5. The quality and number of girls at FKKW has never been better. I would have been very happy to mount at least half of the girls present.
For all of you Andrea fans: you may breath a sigh of relief. I talked with her quite bit and found out the reason for her absence. The reason for her somewhat lengthy “vacation” was a car accident that she had in the Czech Republic. She still has some pain and is getting injections. But she is almost back to full strength at FKKW.
A note about FKKW beverage selection: The nice espresso/cappuccino machines that they had were retired (they just had too many breakdown needing service call). Instead they have large thermoses from which they pour delicious coffee. This is clearly a loss, but not as much as I thought initially. But here is the good news: They now sell regular German beer from the keg at FKKW. A glass is five euro; a bit steep, but if you just really have to have a brew after a nice encounter, there you are. The alcohol-free Clausthaler beer, by the way, is still free. (Tastes real good to me, by the way.)
Food: when I got there, the Saturday brunch buffet was still set up: cold cuts, eggs, breads, salads, some fruit. Looked pretty good, but I did not come to eat.
Encounters:
Lana (with a tattoo of “Angelo” on her left forearm): very cute face (a 9 in my book) petite, extremely well-proportioned body (also 9), just all-around desirable. After having turned away about 6 or 7 others, I stopped her as she was coming by. We talked a bit at the bar, but there was no couch open. So we went straight to a room. Mistake on my side; I really should know better. The BBBJ was so-so; she just used way to much hand and too little throat. Not a lot of DFK either. But once I said what I wanted her to do and how, she went along. Maybe she is relatively new on the job; maybe first there was also not the best chemistry between us; maybe she is saving some of her best for Angelo. Who knows!
But once we put the rain jacket on my member, and she mounted me, the performance improved. I came very fast, but was still able to continue pumping away, and my sausage never went very limp. We went at it doggie style, which is extremely enjoyable with her. As she started moaning, I felt myself getting bigger and bigger, and went deeper and deeper. She flexed her back just right, and was VERY tight around me. After about eight to ten minutes in this position, I came again. For me, a double-unload in one 30-minute session is very rare; so I rate the performance part an overall 10.
OK, so the day started out alright. I have already written enough about Andrea; so I will not repeat my earlier descriptions. (I like to do the same thing with her each time. Try her, if you have the opportunity, and establish your own customs.)
In between encounters I went downstairs where about 10 guys were hanging out in front of the plasma TV that showed the German Bundesliga live. Several of them hide out from the girls there. And since I needed a rest, this was perfect. (A side note on the girls approaching you: Some guys find this annoying, but I have a different opinion. The girls need to make contact somehow, and you can always politely turn them away with an excuse that you just came back from a room and need to recharge. Very often, you can still have an interesting conversation or even get a free rub of your woodie in the process of negotiating yourself out of this encounter.)
I figured I had about one good shot left. So I wanted to make it count. A few of my favorites were around and would have done nicely, but I wanted to sample someone new. Victoria, from Poland, sat down next to me and struck up a conversation. Blond, shoulder-long hair, medium height, very pretty face, nice sized rack, with nipples that scream “suck me”, flat stomach, round rear. This is also a 9 in my book. Bingo, why not!
Victoria did not disappoint in the room. Usually, my fourth encounter can drag out, but with her I came after only about 5 minutes. Well, I would have liked to last longer, but in the end this is better than 30 minutes of pumping and only producing hot air in the end.
I called it a day after almost 4 hours – extremely well-spent time.
May 17
On the 15th, it was cold, and there was nobody outdoors. The 17th was very different, and many of the girls were outside in the sun when I arrived at 5:30. This made my quick-count exercise a little harder, but I am happy to report that there were just about 30 beauties in view at the same time at 5:30 on this Monday (!) afternoon. Like I said, FKKW rules!
I had plans for the evening and thus knew that I really only had time for one girl. Daniela came over to me at the bar and gave me a very nice French kiss. (“Membership has its privileges”, as the AmEx ad used to say.) Daniela is one horny nymphomaniac, from Rumania, with a very athletic figure, smallish but very cute boobs. She does not smoke, nor drink, nor do drugs. But she says that sex is her drug, and I believe it. We started to rub against each other standing at the bar. I fingered her right there, and she started giving me a BBBJ. One of the barkeep girls told us to get a room. OK! As we went though the hallway that leads to the stairs to the lower level, Daniela stops me, goes down on her knees, and gives me another really good BBBJ. “I need it”, she says; so who am I to stop her.
This goes on for five minutes and gets me close to coming; so I pull out. Daniela likes to make a semi-public show – it turns her on. At the bottom of the stairs is a black leather sofa. We make a pit-stop there for another high-quality BBBJ and my doing a bit of DATY on her. It was real fun to hear her noises of appreciation. I turned her around so that she was crouching on the sofa, rimmed her, and gave her a good two-finger job.
Then we went to a room. Lengthy BBBJ, DFK, DATY followed. I wanted to make it fun for her, too, since she is so much into it. Our first “position” was standing up, with me from behind. I can go deep this way, and her moaning showed that it had an effect.
I felt that I was near climax, and so I went out and onto my back. She went on top, and really was grinding against me, trying to cum. As she started her climax, I could not hold on any more and let go as well.
She wanted to go on, and kept rubbing here sweaty body against mine, kissing me deeply. But my age was showing a bit. (I am in relatively good shape, but just not 18 any more. $#$#^*).
Daniela is one heck of a women. When you are in the mood for the girl-friend+porn-star experience, there are very few better options that I can imagine.
Catalyst
Excellent reports. How do you remember all the detail of names etc
Did the girls charge extra for doing it in the room upstairs?
By the way, when I went in March a couple of girls remembered your visit in January - telling me you worked your way round almost all the workers!
Shiatsu,
Glad the girls remembered me (as long as it was in a good way, which I hope it was). How did I come up in conversation? Am I so extraordinary that they start talking about me out of the blue months after seeing me? Have I been underestimating myself all these years?
When I first started hobbying and realized one day that I couldn't remember all of the girls I had been with I started writing things down. In Germany, where there are nice lockers where I can keep a pen, I usually write down names and a couple of other details right after seeing the girl.
Most girls who will do it in the main room (which is perhaps 1 in 4) don’t ask for extra. Some girls ask for 100 to do it in the room upstairs, but I always say no since it’s often a bad sign that they’re uncomfortable with it. More importantly I don't feel right giving different amounts to different girls for doing the same thing. I’m not sure what I would say to one if she asked me why I only gave her 50 but I gave 100 to another for the same thing. If they want extra I’ll usually ask if they’ll do it on a sofa downstairs in the big TV room for the regular price, since no girl has ever asked me for extra for that (also a lot of girls who won’t do it in the main room will do it there). Then, when we’re done I tip them an extra 10 or 20 (unless it’s a bad encounter) since it is an unusual request.
Andrea wanted 100 to do it and I agreed because she is hot, and because when we did it we did it on the sofa in a crowded room, moved to the bed and pulled the curtains back, and really went all out (a lot of other girls will only do it on the bed with the curtains drawn). Also Andrea was one of the first girls I asked so I didn’t know then that other girls would do this for the regular price.
It’s fun, and I wish it would become more common since I’d like to see more of it from others when I visit. If there’s a disadvantage I suppose it might be that it usually requires asking the girl straightforwardly if they will do it, and if she says yes you tend to get right down to business without the conversation, flirting, and slow start up which can sometimes be fun.
Actually there’s another disadvantage to doing it in the main room, which you can see from my reports below, which is that you can expect to have some misunderstandings. Some girls agree and they once you are committed they seem to have misunderstood. Most likely there is a true language barrier; in many cases the misunderstanding emerged before I really was committed, so it clearly wasn’t a trick.
In some other cases I got a strong feeling right away that the girl had understood, but didn’t want to do it. She would put a bit of a distance between me and her, the kissing would be more like pecking, and the bj wouldn’t start. To these girls’ credit they would generally ask to go to a private room before starting a bj and then would be disappointed but understanding if I said no. I had mixed feelings about this since I got to sit with them and kiss a little for free, but I felt pressured to go to a room, which I hadn’t wanted to do, and I felt uncomfortable about getting the free kissing even though I could say it was her own fault (and hopefully I’m not so bad so maybe she didn’t suffer too much other than by spending some time not doing business). One of these girls wouldn’t say hello to me afterwards when I passed by her in the corridors, so she might have had a little bit of hard feeling.
Also some girls will say yes and will do it, but you will get the feeling that they are a little uncomfortable and there will be less chemistry. If you really want the girl maybe that is fine. Sometimes the girl misunderstands, but then agrees to do it since we have already started and maybe she realizes that I did ask, but I know that she’d rather not. And then some girls misunderstand and won’t do it, which might be fine if you don’t have your heart too set on it.
So things can be a little simpler if you just order vanilla.
Thanks, Catalyst, for fantastically long and juicy reports. You have certainly raised the bar on describing experiences at fkk clubs! It was also most kind of you to present the series so that one could read them in descending order. Thanks!
I think we all appreciate and respect your reasons for protecting the identity of certian girls. Just wondering, however, if you could give any clues as to the nature of the Rip-off artist you write about at the begining. It's would just be nice to have something to go on so that an unsuspecting punter does not fall into the trap and waste their time/money.
Also, some of us know a Czech girl Leona from another club. She is very highly respected as a provider of great GFEs. I was a bit surprised to read your mention of this name --unless it is a very popular Czech name-- at World. Is she a platinum blonde with a tatoo on her right buttock cheek? or are you possibly talking about another somewhat petite blonde ex-Atlantis from Slovakia, who has been at World ever since Atlantis closed? or perhaps neither of these? Can you clarify?
Thanks again for very engrossing reading. Since I spent several days at World, back-to-back, about one month ago, your report, which mentions many girls that were not at the club last month, certainly speaks to the high turnover factor at World. What an exciting place, eh?
I agree 100% with your assessment that this is the top club in Germany right now!
Salutations....
Ortos
[quote]In Germany, where there are nice lockers where I can keep a pen, I usually write down names and a couple of other details right after seeing the girl.
[/quote]I sure love the german knack for organization ;)
I used to do this too, until I realized I might want to run for congress one day! LOL :)
Catalyst,
Excellent reports. I just curious, what is major difference to have sex in private room and in front of every one? How long in between to keep you have sex with 5 to 10 girls in one visit? How long each session last (30 minutes)? Each time you can come and your tool can get up session by session? Does Vigra or Calis help? Please advise. Thanks.
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Catalyst
The memories of you were positive - it came up because I asked Andrea to go on the public bed and as I am English she started to think it was an English thing! She said German men in FKKs don't like to do it in public.
After your report I am even more keen on my return visit in mid-June! I'll try to complete my notes as I go along this time
Ortos - I saw Leona and she was definitely the Czech girl from Atlantis, not the Slovakian
Shiatsu,
Thanks for that note about Leona. Just to make 100% sure we are talking about the same girl: The Leona I mean is a very pretty, platinum blonde with a tatoo on her right buttock cheek. I first met her at Atlantis about 18 months ago, then I re-discovered her last year at PHG, where she continues to be a regular. She is rated a top act at that club. I find it astounding that she should suddenly turn up at World as well. I still think her main venue is PHG, where she can probably pull in as many clients as she wants. That is why I suspect we are talking about two different Leonas.
Shiatsu, when exactly did you last see "your" Leona at World?
Ortos
Sorry - I wasn't very observant (it was the day Andrea had her accident and I was not doing my WSG duty!) so I can't say yes or no to the tatoo. I saw her on Sunday just under five weeks ago.
She said she had been working at Atlantis (although I hadn't seen her there). She is Czech and speaks good English, and is slim.
I'm going to World again in three weeks - if she's still there I'll check for you!
As you say it's unlikely to be the same girl - I wish we could take photos of the girls then these discussions would be so much easier.
General comments on hotels etc - there has been discussion recently about hotels/travel etc and how to keep costs down. If you stay in Giessen there are bus services regularly to Garbenteich Sportplatz which is under ten minutes walk from World and cost 1.6 euro instead of 17euro for a taxi. Over four or five days that pays for a half-hour session. On the way back the last bus is at 21.54 or 22.25 approx so I usually get a taxi back to Giessen. Details are on bahn.de, choose English and go to the detailed search choose place- Pohlheim, then street Gruninger Weg -middle
Sex in the main rooms - Catalyst gives some experience on this. If anybody is keen on this they might try Irina (slim, brown straight hair, Russian resident in germany) and Viagra/sara who has silicone tits and (possibly) lifted ass, big lips, very cheerful, black from Brazil. Both were at Atlantis and now at World - at Atlantis they did it in th epublic bed for no charge and without me even asking!
I have a hard time believing that Leona goes from PHG to World and back. The Leona at PHG seems alittle shy to be wandering around World FKK by herself. If she arrived with Sammie for a night I could see that but by herself, I doubt it.
Personally, I think she would have too much competition at World from girls like Andrea. That would be a fun threesome with Andrea and Leona, chingao !
Now that we have some intrigue going on, its your guys job to weed this out and give us a report ASAP.
Lanrac aka Carnal1
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Shiatsu/Carnal,
I think you will both find this an interesting comment: I have solved the mystery of the two Leonas.
I think I know exactly who Shiatsu is talking about in his post just below. He is talking about a short pretty blond girl (tatooless), who used to work Atlantis under the name of "Daria" as well as Leona. (If you check back in the Atlantis section for posts from last year you will find a post or two about her under the "Daria" name.) But she is from Slovakia, not the Czech Rep. Last year, when she used to work in Atlantis, I had several sessions with her. Great girl. She often told me that she was the only Slovakian girl there amidst great many Czechs. After Atlantis closed, she moved to World and when I saw her at World in April, she came right over to me to chat. She told me she didn't like World as much as ATlantis because there were not as many male guests at World. Most interestingly, in the same discussion she indicated that she strongly believed Atlantis would re-open "soon" and that she could not wait to go back there tto work.
Shiatsu's post just below confirms this, because he and I overlapped last month at World when they had the party he posted about. I was at the World for about 5 consecutive days during this period, and each day I saw and often spoke with this Slovakian Leona (or was it "Lenora?"). Anyway this is the girl you are talking about, Shaitsu, not the Leona that Carnal and I know from PHG, who, incidentally also used to work at Atlantis more than a year ago. But this Leona was certainly not at World during April. She was fully enscounced in her normal PHG venue where she has been going strong (with or without Sammi) for several months.
Another way to distunguish the two: The PHG Leona is a G-string wearer, which does expose those superlative butocks for all to see and revere. If, by any off chance she was to turn up at World, then I assure you most probably would have seen her prominent buttock tatoo and remembered it...
Ortos
With help of Viagra and Cialis, I usually have sex with each girl for about 30 minutes. I am afraid that if I do it in public place, then no girl want to do it with me any more because I know most of girls like man who come fast, about 10 minutes after entering. No girl want to fxxk 30 minutes. Am I right? If i do it in open area, every girl see, then they know I fxxk long. Please comment. Of course, have sex in public place with every body watching is a very exciting experience.
21 May 04
WOW- just got in from FKK World where I celebrated the 16th anniversary of my fortieth birthday. Left Frankfurt at 3:30 but once I realized that traffic wasn’t that bad for a Friday afternoon stopped at a rest stop and poured over my printed copy of selected FKK World posts. Thank you Catalyst, Euro100, Ortos, shiatsu and Tarl. Because of your excellent reporting I was able to draw up a list of names and descriptions to be on the lookout for. (Not that it made any difference but at least I had a plan). Also bought a pen per Catalyst’s tip.
Now for my Forum duties: Getting there. I tried their web site directions, the MSN Map page, and one of the German mapping sites. The best and easiest directions were given by Ortos on 03-13-04. Since we don’t have a numbering system in this forum I will copy and paste his directions below: Can’t be plagiarism if I give him credit, right?
Take A5 towards Kassel and get off at Fernwald exit. (They're doing road construction now and the Fernwald exit is just near the end of the construction works.) Upon exiting the A5 autobahn, follow all the yellow/black town signs to Polheim, then at Polheim follow white/black signs to the Industrial Area of Garbenteich, a couple of kms outside Polheim. At Garbenteich, FFKW is pretty well sign-posted. Really it's not that tough to find.
FKK World signs lead you right to it once you get into the industrial area.
I diddled away my time so I pulled into the parking lot at 7:30 and after listening to the memorized spiel from the German girl at the desk was at my locker and doing my first Viagra of the night by 7:45. This means that I had an hour to allow for it to kick in so I was able to roam and see the place!
I will be perfectly honest with you it is sort of like the Grand Canyon in the U.S. You can hear about it, see it on TV and Movies, but till your standing on the edge looking down 6,000 feet to the bottom it doesn’t really sink in. So too with FFK World. Nothing you guys could have told me prepared me for walking into the “great room” from the showers and seeing all that glorious pussy staring me in the face. Let me tell you for a pussy hound that likes to go down on every one I can get my tongue into I was in heaven seeing all that clean shaven twat.
At 8 P.M. I remembered that I had a duty to do a count and since the room seemed pretty full at that time my survey put the total at around 30 girls give or take. Overall impression of the quality would have to range from 6 to 9. (Please take into account the newbie shock factor <G>). I have to admit I really didn’t see one dog and even if all were not my type I wouldn’t have kicked any of them out of bed.
After walking around and seeing everything I just sat at the bar where a fairly good looking German girl struck up a conversation with me in very good English. Pretty face, blond, blue eyed, pleasant body but not my type, plus we are waiting for the Viagra to kick in so I had time to kill and didn’t want to monopolize her and then leave. Was down on the lower level by that cigarette machine waiting to use the bathroom when Clara from Romania (Transylvania to be exact) walked up to me and gave me a kiss to die for. She didn’t know it but she had me right then and there with that hard body, tight tits, and her responsiveness, which was icing on the cake. Since I had no special requirements there was no need to negotiate anything. The only wrinkle was that we had to go back up to the money lockers to get my condoms. I know that the girls all have condoms but I have had to search high and low for a condom that is just the right size, shape, and thickness for my little buddy. And nothing can make me go down quicker that too tight of a raincoat. I wouldn’t need the Viagra if I didn’t have to use condoms. But I do, so I have to be particular with my protection. Next time I am going to get a pouch to wear around my neck to contain my necessities. I finally put one in the fold of my towel but I was always afraid of losing it.
Clara was just as passionate in the room as she was on the couch and we both really were turned on rather quickly. BBBJ, me eating her, couple of different positions and finally shooting a weeks worth of stored up cum in the missionary position while deep French kissing her. Not rushed and really a GF experience that you wouldn’t have gotten me to believe was possible during a ST. I am just back from 4 years living in Thailand and LT was the only way I went. Afterwards we talked for a while and she continued to kiss me until I gave her the 50 Euros and went and showered.
I then went back down to the Jacuzzi and Patricia, another Romanian came walking by and saw the shit eating grin on my face and joined me. I told her that I needed to recover since I had just been satiated by her fellow countrywoman. She said not to worry and as the water slowly relaxed me she stealthily moved in on me. Next thing I knew she was showing me her tonsils while so delicately massaging me that all thought of rest was lost. I have to admit these girls are pros and know just what buttons to push. Not pushy mind you but artful and sensual. They obviously know that the way to the room and 50 euros is through the kissing game. After the trip to the locker for the condom we retired to a free room and she was even better out of water. It was 10:30 by this time and it amazed me that these girls must have clocks in their heads since so far each session had been just at the 30 minute mark.
Time for another Viagra, Indian generic this time, so I just wandered around taking in the sites noting the comings and goings. (Walking the hallways you could hear the comings) The place sort of had a rhythm about it. Some times it appeared empty then five minutes would go by and it would fill up again. Sometimes there would be all guys and a few girls and at other times it would be all girls and just a few guys, and then it would get to be 50 / 50. By 11:30 I was ready for action again and decided to be a picker instead of a pickee. Went down to the couch at the bottom of the stairs and a few minutes go by and then Miracle, a Jamaican, walked by and I asked her if she would like to sit down. She had a gorgeous body and a personality to match. She began the exploration routine and started a BBBJ right on the couch while I explored here gorgeous tits and curves. This time I had the condom tucked into the waistband of my wrapped towel so I was ready for Freddie. She led me to a room behind the Masseur and I told her that it would be a miracle if she could get me to come again since she was my third of the night. She just smiled and in the cute Jamaican accent said “That’s why I am called Miracle”. A slow sensuous session followed and it was a real GF experience as well as great sex. I am lucky she was my last because if she had been my first I probably would have spent a whole hour with her,
We went up to the locker for her payment and I showed her my ID and she was surprised that it really was my birthday.
I stayed another hour while I finally had something to eat and a coffee for the ride home. Every time I would walk past her I would start to sing “Do you believe in miracles, you sexy thing” and she would laugh, grab me and give me another deep tonsil tickling kiss. I took my last shower and left at around half past midnight. As I was sitting in my car buckling up three or four police cars came up the driveway, lights but no sirens. I couldn’t see it they were there to conduct a raid or were escorting a VIP but I do know that the VIP parking gates were opened for them.
Getting out and back onto the Autobahn was a piece of cake since I just followed the Blue signs. I was back in my apartment in just over 35 minutes door to door. I might add that I live but a mere 7 minutes from The Palace but wanted to try the World first because I could!
Overall impression. OUTSTANDING. Finding the FKK scene will make my time here in Germany tolerable but I will just have to control myself since one night at FKK World cost me as much as two months of weekly LT’s in Bangkok. Definitely worth the money not to do the RL scene, which of course is readily available here in Frankfurt. But like boats, airplanes, and helicopters woman are cheaper to rent than own. So a monthly visit to a FKK club is not unreasonable for my sanity.
Administrative notes for any other newbie’s.
First of all the clothes lockers are the pits. There is one up and one down and at first you think that you have two and that one key will lock both doors. Well it won’t and the number on the key is only for that clothes locker. With the changing German weather it was down right cold so I had my leather jacket which, with my clothes, barely fit in the locker. The wallet lockers are another problem area since it is easy to have access to your locker blocked while someone gets their money out to pay their girl. So sometimes it can be awkward. Just look around and make sure you aren’t blocking someone else from getting to their locker and hopefully they will also be as considerate.
When you take your shower remember to adjust the temperature and then push in the knob. Stand away from the spray till you adjust it to you liking and don’t be surprised if it goes off just as you get comfortable. It is on a timer so all you have to do is push it in and since you have already set the temperature it will return to just the right temp.
My only gripe was about the scarcity of bathrooms but like one of the other posters mentioned there are several near the ATM machine in the front lobby. But you don’t have to go out there to access them. The door at the opposite end of the showers leads you there. One even has a sink so if you want to brush your teeth you can do so. Since I eat a lot of pussy I like to keep my mouth clean and fresh.
Don’t expect any friendliness from the staff since they are all bored and just doing their jobs and it would kill them to smile. The only staff member I found to be even a bit friendly was the little girl who cleans up and she smiled and offered to cut off my entrance plastic bracelet as I was leaving. Forget the servers at the bar since they will look right through you even though you are standing in front of them with an empty glass and a mournful look. But the friendliness of the girls is what is important and I’ll trade for that any day. The cleaning ladies are really industrious and I hope that management knows that they really hustle and are always busy cleaning out the rooms, getting fresh towels out, and generally keeping the place tidy. I just don’t understand why management doesn’t have hooks in the rooms to hang your towels up. I guess that they would rather have wet towels on the beds instead?
I was able to park in the 2nd parking lot since it was still daylight when I got there but don’t use that lot if you are not used to your car or not good at parallel parking. Not that you have to parallel park but you have to back into the spaces and with the fence on the left as you come up the drive it can be awkward. Plus you could get caught all the way up there and not find a spot and have to back all the way back out since there is no where to easily turn around.
Even though most of the girls smoke they are smart enough to chew gum so that the smoke smell is not that noticable. I quit four years ago so I am sensitive to it and at first was worried that it would spoil my time but it turned out to be an non issue.
All in all my experience a FKK World was a really positive one and a great birthday present to myself. I couldn’t help but think on the drive back home that FKK World is:
“Euro Disney fur alt herren”
Ortos
You get the Sherlock Holmes prize!
member 1980.
Most girls seem happy to have sex for the best part of the 30 mins - if a girl only wants 10minutes sex then she's not acceptable in my book. We all need to discourage girls who try to give short time or try to make you come in 5 minutes. If a girl is obviously trying to get a quick completion, I usually take charge and set the pace just to outwit her - I make sure I use the full half hour.
However my preference is to include lots of fondling, cuddling and talking in a session - as well as being good in itself it usually leads to better sex . I think you only need worry if it looks as if you are just "using" the girl - as long as you focus on giving her a good time then you should be ok doing it in public. Most girls don't enjoy being fucked like animals (a phrase they've used to me about other clients)
Ortos,
I thought it would be a little unfair to report the rip off girl because I already reported her to management and caused problems for her, so I don’t want to continue beating up on her. Also, the next guy I saw her with said she was fine, so we may have had a problem only because of my unusual request and she is fine with everyone else, or she may have realized that she needs to be fair with her customers. I’m guessing that she wouldn’t be a waste of time or money for most other people. I hope I’m right. If I see any mention on this board of other people having further problems with her though I’ll jump in at that time (with a bit of a guilty conscience for not speaking up at this time).
Leona was really nice and is a top choice. I spoke to her about the internet and she said it was ok to tell people about her but seemed a little hesitant about having me say too much that people who don’t actually go to the club could use to identify her, so maybe I shouldn’t say more. She might be from Slovakia rather than Czech Republic.
There is a negative thing that I didn’t mention in my report. After I had a condom break with a girl I got a little nervous, went to the front desk, and asked how often the girls are tested and what for. The manager told me that I have to ask the girl, because the management of the club has nothing to do with testing the girls. This sounded strange and I wonder if she understood what I was asking, but I can’t imagine what else she might have understood. I thought all FKK clubs in Germany had mandatory testing.
Shiatsu,
Three more questions:
1. I love to eat pussy. Do you think it is safe to taste pussy juice?
2. I think German FFKs are the best in the world, better than Therma in Brazil (girls are not nude in clubs) and Thailand. What do you think?
3. The best anal sex is in Brazil though. Most girls in Therma will do anal without additional charge.
Please comment.
#1980
Member 1980
I'm no expert just an ordinary guy. Sorry - Thailiand and Brazil beyond my knowledge. As for oral on a girl, I did check this out once but have forgotten most details. Certainly there's the risk of herpes, and possibly others. I suggest you find a health info site and then you can make an informed decision
Catalyst - definitely no mandatory testing. If a girl wants to test herself then it is purely voluntary. Obviously a club will not want agirl who is known to be infected, but apart from thsi it's a question of buyer beware. Condoms are the only real defence - especially woth the increasing availablity (outside FKK) of condomless sex including anal and gangbangs
Let me ask a question about the strategy. I used to fuck 8-10 girls in one visit (the best use of 65e entry fee, isn't it?). I use Vigra or Cialis (similar result). The other tactic I used was holding the ejaculation till the last girl I plan to fuck that day (depend on selection in the club and energy I had I feel). That mean I ejaculate only once in fucking about 10 girls (my record is 11) in one visit. If I came earlier, it will take more time for me to get hard again. So use this stratigy, I can fuck more girls (10 girls in about 10-12 hours stay in one visit). Could you comment on if it is right thing to do (use Vigra, and holding back the ejaculation)?
Thanks!
#1980
About any STDs risks go check out goaskalice.com pretty good information.
Langsuan Man: Great report! You are completely right, you really have to experience this place in order to comprehend what people are talking about. I have never been to the Playboy Mansion, but I can guarantee you that Hugh Hefner cannot possibly have it any better than what we get at FKKW.
You said "Euro Disney fuer alte Herren." I like that. Here is my attempt at a slogan: Fuckvergnugen. (If you know the VW ads in the US, you know what I am refering to.)
You mentioned a police patrol right as you were leaving Friday night. All fellow mongers can breath easy - I was there the next day, Saturday, and FKKW was open and running as ever.
You also said that the bar girls are not real friendly. True! However, if you put a little bit of effort into it, you can actually have quite nice conversations with them. The main thing would be to smile at them. Speaking German is of course a real big plus. I flirt a little bit with them accasionally, and they laugh with me and chat with me.
On Saturday at 8 pm I counted 41 providers. And Langsuan Man is right: not a single dog among them. I could have easily seen myself with at least half of them. (come to think of it: I HAVE been with at least half of them). Some of the best Atlantis providers are now FKKW regulars. It's like attending the FKK all star game.
My rental car company had been nice enough to put the newest edition of Playboy into my car. (Do these Germans know what we want, or what?) When I compare the playmates with the top acts at FKKW, I would say that at least 5, perhaps even 10, compare very favorably with the playmates.
Here is one more piece of information: the overnight room rate of 100 euros does NOT include the entrace fee. You have the room from 1 am to 11 am, and breakfast is included. But at 11 the next day starts, and youhave to pay again, if you want to spend that day at the club. So this is a bit expensive. However, if you had too much to drink, this can be an excellent investment.
euro
Question about the overnight rate:
Do they give you the kind of receipt that would be accepted by my company's finance section? I travel a lot in Germany but need to be able to document my overnight expenses!
Belated Trip Report: May 19, 20
On my first visit to Frankfurt since Atlantis closed, I decided to try World based on the recommendations on this board. I planned to do a two day Frankfurt FKK visit - that is, club, hotel, club again then straight to the airport in the early morning. I arrived at FRA, rented a car from sixti.de and booked a hotel at nearby Giessen (Am Ludwigplatz). The site hrs.de was very helpful in finding the cheap hotel (50e per night) which was quite nice.
I arrived at 4:30pm on Wednesday May 19 and was pleasantly surprised by the surroundings. The grounds look similar to Oase, but in better and newer condition. The furnishings are also newer and more stylish - leather couches upstairs and downstairs with wood panelling downstairs. The large outdoor pool with the FKK World logo makes the whole place seem like a resort. Plus the prevalence of plasma monitors makes the place seem like the owners invested quite a bit.
Enough about furnishings and on to the girls. I must say I still miss the density and the buzz of Atlantis. The overall population density was about the same as Oase, but there were slightly more 8's and 9's present than Oase. Additionally, I would later find that the level of services was better than Oase and possibly even Atlantis.
First up, I saw a very cute and very young looking short-haired blond girl, Lana, I would later find out. I tried to chat her up at the bar, but she is no conversationalist, especially in English. Still at the bar I was tempted by Margo, another cute blond with appealing tits and a slightly large behind. I decided to wait and headed to another part of the main room by one of the free standing tables. Soon after, a black Brazilian girl and Lana approached my table and we struck up a fun conversation. After having a few laughs about Americans (me), I struck a deal with Lana and headed outside while the sun was still out.
Lana 19, Germany, Looks: 9, Service: 7
I wanted to get it on in the outdoors while the sun was setting on the lawn, but Lana was not up for it. She's from Frankfurt with a two-year old daughter. Kind of an innocent, hard luck case. But extremely pretty face and great blue eyes and the petite body type that I like. She's the one Catalyst mentioned a few pages back with the Angelo tattoo on her left forearm. Like I said earlier, not much of a conversationalist so I gave up and we headed into one of the outdoor cabins. Started with an unremarkable BBBJ and proceeded into succession of missionary, cowgirl and doggy. I had abstained for a week, so I had to pause often so as not to blow early. Also I knew I had a large load saved up which I wanted to take advantage of, so I asked if I could cum on her face (first time for me) for an extra 50. She agreed and I had her give me some final oral while kneeling, while I stood in front of her porn style. At the moment of truth I pulled out, and she presented her pretty face as a target, eyes and mouth closed. As expected, it was a considerable load, striping the length of her face, into her hair and over her back. The mess of this scene caused a big laugh from her. It was quite amusing for me too as I helped clean the cum out of her hair. She was still giggly as we walked back and just before we stepped back into the main building, I stopped her to wipe off the last wad that had pooled in the nook of her collarbone (I was half tempted to let let her walk back into the crowd while wearing that last reminder). Overall not mind-blowing sex, but a sweet girl, and I would repeat.
Andrea 21, Czech, Looks: 8, Service: 10
The renowned Andrea checked in around 6:30pm, and I recognized her from descriptions on this board. When I was ready for a second round at 11pm, I found her available and away we went to the room. As has been described here, she has a unique look, extremely long black tresses, dramatic eyes. But I think what makes her stand out is her service and her no bull-shit attitude. She's a pro, but she doesn't lie or flatter you. Quite refreshing. Services-wise, some great DFK, deep throat BBBJ and, because I was "not too big" (love that honesty), some anal was in the cards. Great session which I would soon repeat.
I left the club around 1am and went back to the hotel. The question now was, Oase or World for the second night? Based on Wednesday night, I concluded that World had the edge in both facilities and girls and definitely in the services offered (DFK and anal seem to be a rarity at Oase).
So the next day I arrived early (3pm) at the club, determined to partake of the resort aspect of the club. I brought some reading materials and enjoyed the lounge chairs at poolside. Around 4pm, they started serving food at the outdoor barbecue and one guy handed out two beer coupons to each customer - the benefits of early arrival I suppose.
Around 7pm, I had done enough lounging and was ready for action. I still wanted to fulfill my outdoor sex fantasy, so I found Andrea whom I knew would not object. We headed out to the grassy knoll to the left of the pool and laid down our towels between the two cabins. We were a good distance uphill from the bbq area but close to the cabins - reasonably private enough for me. Another good session with Andrea enhanced by the alfresco aspect. Andrea remarked that she had never done it on the grass, so I was pleased to have broken new ground with her.
While waiting around for my next encounter, I talked with Olga the tall red-head, former Atlantis girl. I sessioned with her once at Atlantis and she has stunning model quality looks, but I wanted to try new girls.
Yvonne 23, Latvia, Looks: ?, Service: 9
This is embarassing, but at this point I can't recall the face of my second round companion. I do have in my notes that she was very GFE with good DFK and I recall a good session. But I just can't conjure up what she looked like. If anyone knows Yvonne and can post some details I'd appreciate it.
Anastasia ("Anna") 21, Belorussia, Looks: 8, Service: 8
My third and presumably last round of the night was a girl I had been watching all night. She was a tall, lean blond, with pretty blue eyes. Fantastic, athletic body. She looked like Lana's older taller sister. She was fairly busy through the night, but eventually I was able to connect with her when I was ready around 1am. Her English is just ok. We went downstairs to the leather couches in the Relaxzone and had a nice massage and makeout session before proceeding to a room. Went through the multiple positions and two bouts of BBBJ, but I found I just couldn't climax after 45 minutes of action and instead settled for more of a massage. All told, ended up spending about an hour and a half with her but she only charged for an hour. Good session, would repeat.
Suza bulgaria, Looks: 8, Service: 10
From 3am on, I was just hanging out enjoying the atmosphere (porn, comfy couches and naked girls, oh my). I definitely thought I'd already had my last session for the night and was just enjoying a drink waiting for the morning to come. Then a thin, dark haired girl sat next to me and we started talking. I made it clear early that I was spent for the night, but she seemed content just to relax and talk. By 3am, I think the customer prospects for the girls are pretty low. She said her name was Suza, whom I remembered was highly recommended in Catalysts' reports. She told me that she liked World, but there weren't as many customers as Atlantis. She said she had worked for only one night at Atlantis, the last night when they got raided. Bum luck... She seemed to think it would re-open under new management. To pass the time, I asked her if she would like a massage and she accepted, and sat in my lap. During the massage, I got that familiar urge and decided to have one last go round. It was 3:30am and I wasn't sure whether I could climax, but I thought it was worth a try. She was eager and willing and quite a performer. It took a full half hour of BBBJ, every major position, some great DFK and then a vigorous finale BBBJ, but she did achieve the impossible and I was sated. Then she said we must hurry. I wasn't sure why, but later I saw that the girl's mini-bus was loading and getting ready to leave.
So, in retrospect, I was impressed with World. It's not quite Atlantis, but a cut above Oase. Can't wait to get back...
Round the World,
Wonderful report! Is outdoor sex on the grass common? Next time I should try outdoor sex and sex in the main room, the two exciting actions from the reports that new to me. Why just two days? I try several 4 day package including go to Palace.
I agree with you that World is better that Oase!
#1980
Absolutely superb report, RtheW! Thanks for your descriptions and observations.
Tell me: In your opinion, how many girls were working World post-01.30? I have always looked positively on FKKW post-midnight, myself...Do you remember a good number and selection in the club, say, 02.00?
Ortos,
I would estimate about 30 or so girls post-midnight. More importantly I would say that there are two shifts of girls. The afternoon shift seems to leave around 8pm - important to note, because often the girl you have your eye on will leave at this time if you don't act. The night shift comes on around 6:30 and stays till closing 4am. I didn't notice any girls packing up or leaving before 4am.
There are times when many girls seem busy/missing all at once. One time, I noticed that an ice cream truck pulled up (no joke) and most of the girls disappeared for about half an hour. Later I noticed that the male customers tend to session around the same time, kind of like several mini rush hours. Like shortly after dinner time or around midnight and a last call at 3am. At these times there can be a dearth of available girls.
Hope this helps,
RtW
Round the World,
Wonderful report! Is outdoor sex on the grass common? Next time I should try outdoor sex and sex in the main room, the two exciting actions from the reports that new to me. Why just two days? I try several 4 day package including go to Palace.
I agree with you that World is better that Oase!
#1980
Nice Report RTW. Not too long, just the good stuf.
Andrea is a tigress, she is relentless in the BJ, non-stop DTTC with a big smile at the end. Her attitude about sex is great. She told me she likes it, the CIM is good for her vitamin intake, and the sex is good for men. She is just a great all around provider. Not a 10 in looks but her manor and sexiness just bring her to the top of the list for a "must do" session if your at World FKK.
I was unable to enjoy the grounds since I went in March, not quite warm enough to fuck outside. That club reminds me of the Country Club I was a member off growing up. Srawling grounds, great venue.
Interesting comments about Atlantis and Oase, never been to either of those clubs but I feel confident that I did not miss much after going to World.
Regards,
Carnal1 aka Lanrac1
Is anybody planning to be at World on 10-13th. If so maybe PM me? (the odd chat and info swap) helps pass the hours
By the way, I am getting recommendations for Laura and also the recent arrival Chanel (Russian blonde, 1.80) as being top acts at World. Clara continues to get excellent reviews for her DTTC
Shiatsu,
So your mid-June trip is a reality! Bravo! Wish you the best of fuck ---ooops, I mean: luck... and hope all your sessions are positive, long-enduring and romantic...Hope your choice selections are all there too! You mention Laura: Are you referring to the old Altanits Laura from Khazakastan? or another? I myself still hope to make it to World towards the end of the month, thus any fresh reports from you and others will be most useful.
Carnal1 aka Lanrac1,
You comment:
"Interesting comments about Atlantis and Oase, never been to either of those clubs but I feel confident that I did not miss much after going to World."
I think there will be several here that would take issue with that statement...Remember the old Dutch/German saying:
Was der Bauer nicht kaent, das frist er nicht! ("What the farmer doesn't know, he doesn't eat!")
Even though a club like Oase might have it's ups and downs, indeed some problems girls, etc., you would do well to at least try it for yourself one time...But if you only have one or two days, then perhaps you are right: Can't go wrong at World these days.
Ortos
I think you know the girls better than me. I mean Laura with the short black hair - I never saw her at Atlantis but then I am not that frequent a visitor
Shiatsu,
Short black hair? No, no, that's not the Laura I know. Where is she from, this black-haired Laura?
Yes Shiatsu,
Your response is correct, I think I will give it a spin in my next rotation this fall. I had a choice of going to Oase or World last visit and that is how I met you and the fellas. I passed the next day as well to venture over to the Palace. I never even made it to
Atlantis, was going to go the night I met you but I think you had just left there and told me that World was better and to stay put For some reason I felt that the newer clubs would be better for my first visit otherwise I would be jonesing too much to check them out after I left Oase.
The website for Oase is not something that makes you want to catch the next flight over. First impressions ??? The number of girls in the photos were impressive but if you look closer, they kind of have a fast food look to them :-)
I plan on visiting in the fall and will make Oase one of my visits along with World and PHG. Not sure if I will go back to the Palace ecspecially if I end up renting a car.
Ortos is the master of the FKK clubs, look forward to meeting up with him some day along with the rest of you blokes.
Regards,
Carnal1
Ortos- Well, I am planning my first visit to FKK World July 3 and 4. There was a Roemerforum party planned July 3 at World that I was going to ride to with the hooker.nl friends, but now my friend says that is cancelled. In a way this is good- who wants to deal with those crowds. Anyone hear about this?
I will begin at headquarters PHG for a threesome with Seargent Sammi and Lieutenant Leona on July 1, then check out the new FKK Golden Times in nearby Bruggen. Same prices as PHG, bigger, more spacious grounds, longer meal times, but only 11 rooms, and so far only about 15 to maybe 20 girls- but some very good ones. Golden Times is even closer to the Dutch border than PHG, and if one cllub sucks it takes 15 minutes to get to the other by car. On July 3 and 4, I go to Frankfurt to do World and either World again or Oase. I hope these clubs don't suffer from the summer doldrums- ie too many good girls on holiday. August seems more likely to suffer this effect.
So Ortos, will I see you around? I am staying in Stationshotel Venlo on the first two days and the Etap in Giessen sued West Linden- right near World the last two, then near PHG again the last night. Both hotels only 38 euro per night with breakfast- so much cheaper than Amsterdam. Lets party.
Doog,
Beffen man
Hey Guys,
I have not FKKW for several months. Does anyone know if Maria/Viktoria 9Bulgaria) is still working there?
Thanks,
Dedalus
Beffen: Within the next week or 10 days, I shall PM you with thoughts about a possible meeting in early July. I shall be confirming my specific dates within that time frame...If I do manage a trip, and at the moment that is more likely than not, I shall probably be staying in central Frankfurt and bouncing between the three clubs as whim and girl availibility dictate. I'd be happy to have you share the co-pilot seat of my rented car, if, indeed, I do manage to overlap with you. We shall no doubt be in closer contact round mid to late June, eh?
Dedalus: I can not say definitively whether or not Maria is "out of the game." I can say that during my April 10-19 visiting period to World, she was not in evidence at that club. I remember being a bit surprised by her absence because, during my late Jan - early Feb '04 visits to the club, I spotted her working the club on a Thurs and Sat night. Hope this helps. Rest assured that if I do make it back to World in late June/early July, I will let you know if I see her...
Ortos
TRIP 1
FKK World; heaven? Reading the reports, it seems that this place is full of stunners. I suppose, "one man's meat is another man's poison!"
I went to FKK World last night. I must admit, it is a really cool place just to hang-out and check all the girls. Most girls ranged from 6-8's. In my books there were no 9-10's. But then again, I'm sure they were taken for the entire night by some of the rich guys (just look at the cars in the car park!).
I was quite surprise to find the club not that busy considering it is a Germany bank holiday. There must have been about 50 guys and about 30 girls.
In mu opinion, this is a place to relax and when you feel like it, shag! I started off my night by having an excellent massage by the masseur. It is also a great spot to check out the "candy" as most girls at some point will walk by.
I'm not really going to go into details but to those of you who are still toying with the idea of going to FKK Woeld, GO! It's a great experience but I must admit, a bit over priced. For example, my regular hunt; Park Schloss Dali, it cost 60 euros entrance and half hour is 55 euros (which includes BBBJ; not cim). Whereas this service cost me 100 euros at FKK World.
I'm checking out FKK Palace today. I'l give you'll an update tomorrow.
PS: I came from Prague having just visited Beboss. If you guys I ever there, check this place out. For 50 euros you get to bed a porn star! It's not GFE i.e. BBBJ but it's not mechanical either. Much better than the famous K5.
TRIP 2
went to FKK Palace last night. Exactly the same price structure as World and the girls don't hunt in "packs" like at World. However, Palace doesn't have nowhere near as good an atmosphere as World. The quality of girls are the same in both places.
If I had to choose between the two? With summer now starting, FKK World wins hands down. It has a much nicer atmosphere, where you can relax, very much like a country retreat (with naked women!!!).
TRIP 3
Wow! FKK World is getting better. I have just returned from spending most of this evening at World. I was there last week too. There must have been at least 40 girls, most 6 - 7's with a few 8+ in the house.
World has a very good atmosphere and is a really cool place to relax.
I went with a German girl. A body to die for and what a service! All I can say was that it was one of the best BBBJ I've ever had. 30 mins 100 euros.
I've heard from a number of different sources that Alantis is going to re-open under new management. All I can say is that there is going to be some fierce competition in the Frankfurt area for best club. These places are huge and need a high turnover of guys to make them profitable. It will be interesting to see how things turnout. The good thing is that we guys will hopefully get a better service.
PS: If anyone from FKK World is reading this, a suggestions - The "overflow" car park. Please get rid of the rocks that make the driveway. It screws with my car tyres and I dread leaving your place and getting a puncture...at 150 mph!
Hey thanks for your report. I am a bit confused, however. Every time I've been to World the price for 1/2 hour has been 50E, not 100! I think you are quoting the 60min price, not the 30 min. I would not describe the place as super expensive compared to other area clubs...
Can you give more info on "Beboss" in Prague? Never heard of it...Can you flesh out the essential details? Can you reference a specific report on it in the Prague section?
Thanks,
Ortos
Rayboy,
What do you mean by BBBJ (other than blow job without condom)? For 100 (30/min) did you CIM (you come in her mouth)? I've been to 15 different FKK's and had well over a hundred sessions and Never paid 100 euros for (30/min.), unless I wanted to cum in the girls mouth.
Someone please confirm to me, and the board, that the going rate (including standard BBBJ) for 30/minutes at World is 50/Euros. I'm going to germany in July and wouldn't go near the place if it cost 100/euros for 30 minutes.
I've never been to World but have been going to Oase regularly for 6 years now and really like it there.
Travel
Personally, I have found that the smaller clubs in NRW have more attractive women.
You are right. FKK World is €50 for half hour but CIM or anything extra, the girls always add another €50 on top.
RB,
There is no way that 1/2 an hour BBBJ costs 100€ in world. Unless you went for CIM. Very clear that Half an hour is 50€. If a girl wants more complain.
Peter
Guys, there seems to be a bit of confusion in what I wrote. At World the going rate is €50 for BBBJ (30 mins). If you want anything more e.g. CIM or anal, the charge can be anything from €50 upwards on top of the standard €50.
In my opinion, what's the point of having a BBBJ if you cannot cum in her mouth. Isn't that the fun part of it :O)
Rayboy69,
In your report on FKKW, you said that there were no stunners, "no 9-10's". I suppose my standards could be a bit lower than yours. But what about the girl you shagged, with "a body to die for"? That's not a 10?
In any case, it would help us if you let us know the times of your vists, and of course the name of the girl!
Thanks in advance,
Euro
I returned to World for an overnighter this past Thursday night. Third visit there overall. I was surprised at the turnover in girls. Perhaps a dozen out of the 40 girls were there on my previous visit just three weeks ago.
Sadly, missing in action were Lana (19yr German), Andrea (supposed to return on Friday) and Olga (ex-Atlantis, red-head).
Happily, Anna (20yr, Belarus) and Suza (23, Bulgaria) were repeats from last visit, and I did indeed repeat.
Unfortunately the weather was rainy on Thursday so it was hard to enjoy the great outdoor facilities though I had arrived early enough (15h30). However I had remembered to bring a fresh WSJ, so I braved the rain outside and took a seat by the pool under a sun umbrella. The only other people by the pool were Anna and a German guy who looked like Sammy Hagar. She was acting very familiar and romantic with the guy and I was a bit envious as I didn't get that level of service from her last visit.
After reading the paper, I toured the facilities and surveyed the girls. There were plenty of new faces. Of note, there was a sexy dark-haried Italian(?) girl and a petite, very pretty blond with red streaks. Unfortunately I wasn't able to hook up with either over the course of the night. I think the combination of the girls' popularity and the shift change (around 8pm) took its usual, sad toll.
So by 18h00, I gave up on looking for new girls and arranged a session with Anna, a previous favorite. She really is a great package, pretty blond, perfect athletic body and a good attitude. I was surprised that she remembered me and approached me from across the room when our eyes met. First time around, I definitely had to approach her which wasn't easy as she usually was talking with other girls. Anyhow, I was nicely surprised and received some nice affection which I assume she reserves for repeat customers. Very good session, ending with BBJ CIM for 100e (can you get CIM anywhere for less than 100e?) Planned to repeat with her later that night, but Anna was one of the busier girls that night and she left at 2am instead of closing 5am.
Round two, didn't happen till around 11pm. In the meantime I had eaten the food available, gone swimming, soaked in the hot tub and sweated out in the sauna. While waiting for a couple of the girls who were on my "list", I was approached by Olga of Siberia. She was an ok blond (7) a bit wider in the body than I usually like. But she did start kissing me with abandon. I guess I'm a sucker for a good kiss and she even pulled this trick, taking some of her Fanta in her mouth then tranferring it to me. I was ripe for another session so I took the chance and we proceeded to the kino. I figured, she wasn't a top looker so perhaps she would compensate with her performance. Unmitigated disaster ensues... once in the kino, she wants to consummate the session on the couch. At this point, the kissing stops, and a rushed session starts. At this point I was turned off and figured I'd just settle for completion by BBJ, but even this is disappointing as she tries the old "hand-job instead of blow-job" routine. Now I'm really ticked off plus she claims the half-hour is up, do I want to continue for 100. I cut my losses and get the hell out of there. Two words of advice regarding Siberian Olga, "Stay Away".
I'd never had such a bad session at World (only once a similar ripoff ocurred at Oase). As a result, I was in a sour mood and trying to chill out with a drink on the couches in the main lounge. I was only there a short while when I noticed an attractive brunette at the bar who was very friendly with another repeat customer. Eventually she noticed me on the couch and, to my surprise, she literally ran over to the couch and tackled me. This approach would not normally work with me, but I sensed something different in our conversation. Additionally I was still ungratified and ready for another session. So off we went.
Her name was Diana from Bulgaria, 22, looks - about an 8, speaks English well. I started with a massage on her so I could get a feel and look at her body. She really seemed to enjoy. Then the session began, although the BBJ section was exceptional. Fantastic tongue work all over. After half an hour of different positions, I completed and she asked for more of a massage. I complied and we had practically another hour of massage, conversation and embraces. We went so long that eventually one of her friends came downstairs looking for her. I had great time with Diana, and the session was quite a unique experience for me in the FKK realm. Amazingly I had gone from my worst FKK experience to one of the best. I greatly look forward to repeating.
Next I took a food break and tried to gather the energy for one more session before closing (5am). While eating I struck up a conversation with Leona, pretty blond, used to be a red-head at Atlantis. We talked about the differences between Atlantis and World. She also seemed to think Atlantis would re-open in a few months. Fun talk and she was attractive so I added her to my mental list of things to "do".
When I was ready for my last session, I couldn't find Leona, and also I had seen Anna leave at 2am. Thus there were limited options until I found Suza, 24 of Bulgaria, another repeat from my last visit. Last time, I had thought I was sessioned out by 3am. However I met Suza on the couches and after giving her a platonic massage, I decided to try one more time. I didn't think I could complete but Suza worked me over and achieved the impossible. Awesome BBJ, all the positions and passionate DFK. This time she worked her magic again.
Overall another fun trip to World. Seemed to miss a few of the stars of the past, but perhaps they were just out for the day. Will probably return in July.
Cheers,
RtW
@RTW,
Great Report.
You can get CIM for mess than 100€. A Few Examples:
Wildenrath, Happy Garden, Golden Time
30 minutes BBBJ + Full Sex = 50€
Additional Price for CIM = 25€
Cum on Body is included
If she offers swallowing that is another 25€
Anal is plus 50€.
Each additional 30 minutes is only 25€ more.
That means here BBBJ CIM is 75€
These are the firm prices, and if the girls say anything else clear it with the girl at the counter.
It gets even cheaper.
The Red Carpet Clubs (Most located on or near the A42 between Essen and Dortmund, but also with one in dietzenbach by Frankfurt)
I know the Freudenberg Strasse 39 (prices in the other RCC's vary slightly).
Depending on when you go entrance fee is either 25 or 35€. There are usually about 25 girls there, quality can be hit or miss, but I have usually seen 3 or 4 that are more than worth doing.
20 minutes BBBJ & Full Sex costs 20€
Additional cost for CIm is 20€
Additional cost for another 20 minutes is 20€
Additional price for anal is 40€
That means the program you describe cost 40€ here. for the 100€ you can have 40 minutes including CIM and Anal if you are up for it.
There are also clubs like Cocoon in Wuppertal or Tropicana in Düsseldorf where I am pretty sure the price is lower too. In tropicana they have the 20 minute cycles too. If you get the 20 minutes plus CIM which counts as another session then it will cost you 99€, but in this club you pay no entrance fee. It is not a club to hang out at for hours and visit different chickcs. It is a club to go for a short time. Cocoon has pricing which is more for long time stay and multiple sessions.
The clubs up in the Cologne/Düsseldorf and Ruhr area much better in the pricing (and I find at least equal if not better in service and looks)
In most of those clubs the turnover is much lower too. The girls stick to it a bit longer. At the moment they are all trying a day or two in the beuatiful Golden Time. But Otherwise Wildenrath and Happy Garden tend to keep there good talent well.
If I get bored today, I might write an excel program to see the costs and benefits better, but I think I will wait until a really boring weekend to put that together.
Peter,
Cool idea! I hope that your Exel project is completed by the 19th.
You could also do an exel sheet on all the girls at each club. I admit that it is a lot of time, money and research, but probably "weniger langweilig."
Ortos,
Word is that Maria is gone. I ran into a girl that she worked with both at Oase and Atlantis, and she thinks that the pause that she is taking now is permanent. She told me last year that she was considering stopping; that she had been doing this long enough and that her boyfriend really wanted her to stop.
Cheers all,
Dedalus
Peter
Thanks for all the great info. I'm genuinely impressed. I had never considered those options. I'm not actually that fixated on CIM, but it's good to know for future reference.
Are any of the places you mention within reasonable distance (60-90 min driving) from FRA? Are the girls of comparable quality to top FKKs?
Thanks in advance,
RtW
@RTW,
Wildenrath, PHG and Goldentime are all about 2-2:30 Drive from Frankfurt. They are between Düsseldorf and the Dutch Border. I personally find the girls there are of at least the same calibre as at Oase or World, many have worked both areas extensively. Check out the Wildenrath section of this board, I have posted some pictures of my favourite girls from the club there, you make up your own mind. Goldentime is new, and there are not a tonne of stunners there yet, although I have been twise last week to visit Lisa, probably the greatest Teenie looking Russian I have ever met.
Of the Red Carpet Clubs, Dietzenbach is within 10 minutes drive of Frankfurt. The general home page of the red carpet clubs is http://www.fkk-200nackedeis.de/index2.html . There you can link to the Dietzenbach home page (all in German). They don't have their prices listed on the home page. But they are cheaper than the big FKK's. They have the nickname Aldi FKK'S. I think it is also because they share a parking lot with Aldi (the discount food store).
As I said, in looks the Red Carpet Clubs can be hit or miss. Some of the prettiest girls I have ever seen have been there, but some of the ugliest dogs in the business too. But you should have seen the display of heinousness that was the opening weeks of World. I have never seen uglier girls than what was running around there. Dietzenbach usually only has 5-10 girls, so there isn't the sheer number of girls. However in Wildenrath there are usually only 15-20 girls and usually there are 8-10 I want to be inside of, whereas at Oase there are usually 50-60 and hardly 5 I want to be in.
The only worrying thing is they say the club is managed by germans and will only allow germans entry. I do not know whether that means no US or british either, or just no darker people from the south. and don't get all up in arms, most of the working girls I know don't like the Southern customers on average. Some other chains like the Cocoon, mondial, Tropicana people have established a club called Ali Baba especially for Turkish customers. The red Carpet club people also have a club for Turkish guests called Penelope in Essen. But call Dietzenbach directly to see if you wold have a problem getting in 06074/47360.
Peter
I've been to Dietzenbach and reported on it on this board sometime in 2003. One slight correction to my friend Peter's excellent info - there are usually at least 15 women in Dietzenbach in the late afternoon/ evenings.
I am definitely not German and had no problem entering, even though I definitely spoke English at the entrance. As I wrote in my previous post on the club it is accessible to FRA airport by public bus for 3.20 Euro one-way fare.
Just been to World for four days and will do a detailed report in a few days. Headline is that it's beginning to take on a bit of the buzz of Atlantis whilst still keeping some of the freshness of some of the girls. It's developing really nicely
Just don't go on a Party night unless you like being with up to a thousand men in an evening (it was a mega party). One girl did 36 men in 11 hours at the last party and I'm told there were always at leat four couples outside each room (so most didn't actually go into rooms)
The reason I'm doing this pre- report note is to ask that if anyone is going to World in the next month(s) I'm looking for a volunteer to pass on a simple message to a girl - it's possible that the reply will be an irritated no If anyone is going perhaps PM me?
Couples in FKK World??? I thought only single male customers were allowed into this club.
When I said couple sI meant client and working girl, Sorry for any confusion
However one girl told me that couple definitely do go to World I think it's very rare and I've not seen them. The women must have nerves of steel
Enough has been said about the place generally so I’ll just comment on some things which strike me. Firstly the reception staff are very friendly and helpful – they speak good English and will tell you if a girl has arrived or not and do some small talk. They will probably then remember you when you turn up the second night running. They remembered after a two month absence with great friendliness. The bar staff are also good (apart from one who has no customer care skills) but I’ve never tried my English on them.
The number of girls and clients is increasing. Perhaps 50 girls on a Saturday night and 40 on a Sunday night (not enough clients on Sunday for all the girls). Many less in the day. There is more accosting by the girls than there used to be, but it’s not aggressive. The quality is much better now than two months ago – physicaly I think there is something for everyone’s taste
The turnover of girls is not very high. About 60% of the girls who were there two months ago are still there. Round the World estimated lower but that was because on the night he and I were there a lot of the girls just happened not to be there. I would estimate that the number of girls in total has risen by about 25% over two months so there are a lot of new faces
There are increasing numbers of men – and some of them are assholes which is new for World. It’s reputation is growing and there are small groups coming and swaggering. Usually from particular ethnic groups living in Germany – maybe it’s because they feel a bit insecure. It’s worth being aware of as an indicator that the place is not as laid back as it was when it opened and that, however nice you are, the workers won’t know until you show it, that you are not a pig (not my word but one worker’s word). There are however no heavies apparent (unlike Atlantis) so it’s not a significant problem
Another pointer – if you like anal it’s worth asking. One girl I know actually prefers anal and comes amazingly with it. And the price can be extremely negotiable. I can’t give details as the club price is said to be a ludicrous 150E extra. Personally I would not pay anything like this.
Round the World has mentioned Anna. From Beloruss, 1.70, mousy hair, wide mouth, turned up nose, slim. She will not make the first contact but will be friendly with you for days after you have had one session. She usually wears flipflops (an increasing trend at World). I’m not going to say she is an exceptional performer, The sex is just a job. However she is considered by many regulars as the nicest girl in the Club. I had an hour with her and she was pleasant enough, willing to talk, Three days later I had a problem with one of the girls in the club and Anna saw I was upset. She gave me a long long hug and kept asking me to tell her what the problem was. When I told her she went and tried to sort it out with the girl concerned. What struck me was that she looked into my eyes and immediately told me, non-judgementally, how I felt. No more detail but just trying to say that there are some really good people and she was one of them. I've put a bad pic of her in photo section
Viagra from Brazil (via Barcelona) is there. Black, long curled hair, silicone tits, lots of piercings in hidden places. Mad as ever she is loud and friendly. She accosted me on a couch downstairs and we ended up having the whole session there. Good value if you like active wild sessions.
Daisy from Brazil (via Barcelona and Atlantis) is also there. She has dyed her hair very very blonde and is even more expressionless than ever but responds well to a more tender approach.
Andrea is still there. jet black hair down to waist (sometime tied in), had black eye liner all the way round big eyes, slim, dark complexion, a wide face. There are some similar description girls but she has a presence which they don't . She arrives normally at 17.30 ish on Th, F, S and 16.30 on other days. She wears platform high heels. I cannot report sensibly – as far as I am concerned she is the best working girl I have known (if you can cope with the temperament). The more you know her the better it gets, until eventually she draws the shutters down which she will do inevitably. She will work through the room so she’ll probably approach you. As for scores – well I don't think she’s in the same game as anyone else (my opinion)( Also my opinion is that I’m no longer sane). Be kind to her, be interested in her, try to give her good sex, don’t just go for halfhour, and you stand a chance of getting the rewards. Word of warning - whatever you do, draw the line under the session and don’t get involved. I don’t want to say more in case it gets back to her (she is very aware of the various forums and what people write about her).
By the way, thanks to those who have offered to help me out. It seems that quite a lot of members have got their fingers burnt. I hadn’t realised that the WSG Forum was also an emotional support group!
Another by the way – if you’re 250kg and the girl tells you she can’t breathe because you’re squashing her, it might be a good idea to listen! The girls give interesting perspectives on us clients
The last few bits to finish my earlier report
Veronika from Poland is a very very slim light, slightly curly long haired girl from Poland. 21. She has the firmest stomach imaginable and small breasts, She speaks NO English, but is good performer and has a happy broad laugh when she is in the room.
Cindy from Prague – the tall blonde girl with the glasses –speaks excellent English.
Julia from Dresden is still there, late 20s, hair recently blonder and frizzier. Sometimes wears hold-ups, If you like a bit of nail scratching etc from her, she’s really keen on it. I've put a bad pic of her in the photo section
Julia (reddish hair) from Rumania (I think) has returned, Very slim. If you like fulsome (but not saggy or misshapen) asses then she is your girl. I thought she was standoffish at first but I realise she is a little bit shy.
Monika, blonde, Polish, good sized breasts, a bit on the short side compared to some, was a very good performer and very friendly, Speaks good English
Alex, Bulgarian, blonde slim, hung around bar, pointed nose (not weird just a bit to help the description) was ok but not very active in the room
I haven’t really tried to comment on performances generally – the reason is probably obvious from reading my main report. But all the ones I mention seemed to be pleasant people and do their job well.
As for the price for CIM – in World it’s 50 extra
Basically the choice is better than ever. And the atmosphere was still good generally – for example one girl who approached me and I rejected because I was waiting for a certain girl, then went and checked that this girl had not arrived and when she was expected
Oh, and the food is much more edible than it was
Shiatsu,
Great reading, thanks for the reports. Even though I have only been to World one time and met you there I feel like I am walking thru the place every time you post one of your essays.
I am not sure if it was you but one of you guys turned me on to Andrea for a very memoable experience in the Kino, broke my Kino Cherry there:-)
Too bad we could'nt have used these reports back in School for our Term Papers. We may have all ended up at Harvard studying
FKK History.
I will be returning in the Fall for 10 days, look forward to my trip to World again. Will stop in Amsterdam first during the Cannibis Cup before all the idiots show up then down to Germany to
do the FKK trail from Oedt to Frankfurt and surrounding areas.
California will have to do for now, heading to Newport Beach for some relaxation and California Babe Watching.
Doog,
Carnal1 aka Lanrac
Thanks for the upbeat update Shiatsu. As someone who will be bouncing between PHG and Golden Time, Oase and World and Palace in just two weeks, your report has me salivating. I have lots of favorites at PHG and sometimes stress a little at the thought of leaving them to explore the Frankfurt clubs (yeah right!)
The Euro weather report of late is pretty rainy and relatively cool. But come July it may be hot- pool here I cum. Which clubs have Air conditioning if any?
PHG has lots of 19-low 20's girls- the girls in Frankfurt seem older than that, am I right? But I like those numbers 40-50 on weekends. That sounds like a decent sized herd.
Thanks again
Beffenman
Is it me or have the quality of the women at the Frankfurt area clubs dropped? I just came back and visited World and Oase, there were plenty of women I there I would classify as "Very Attractive"(solid 8's) but there were very few stunners(9's and 10's) to be found. Compared with the Ruhr area clubs like Babylon and PHG, the percentage of stunners was quite small. What is going on?
@CBGB
Due to all the new clubs that have opened and the down economy which has led to less club visits and lower spends/visit, the talent has spread itself thinner. The girls that are Stunners are moving around looking for greener pastures, or settling in a club closer to home that is less hassle to get to and work at like world.
Remember girls pay 65€ a day at Oase and World, plus another 15€ if they sleep there. In the Rhine/Ruhr clubs the daily rates are much lower for the girls 100€/week PHG, 75€/week Wildenrath, 15€/day Golden Time (all including sleepover if wanted). They are finding that they can earn just as much in these clubs.
although in general there are not as many Playboy centerfold types running around anywhere. I was never into that type anyway, I like them more natural.
Peter
I was at PHG and met Sammi, she was as good as what some posters stated and was definitely a 10. I also ran into Margherita, the Italian at DV, she is still as beautiful as she was when I saw her a couple of years ago. The Ruhr clubs right now seem to have the best women. Babylon had a quite a few stunning women that I saw this past week.
A few afterthoughts from my recent reports
Ortos - you were right. the Leona I mentioned some months ago is Slovakian and although she has been at PHG and Atlantis, she is definitely not the one you are interested in. She has however a good reputation amongst the local regulars.
RtW - the ice cream van definitely turns up. I notice some girls buying large ice-creams, eating one and putting one in the fridge which they eat later (ok - the icecream not the fridge) which maybe explains why some girls are putting on weight.
Beffen - as you'll have realised I've become sidetracked to FKKW so haven't been to the Ruhr clubs for a year. One of the things I liked about FKKW late last year was the freshness and youth of its workers. That has gradually changed so there are I think just about none under 20 but there are quite a few 20/21 - certainly a younger age overall than Oase and Atlantis (as was). It is variable though - in January this year FKKW was horrible in terms of talent. By and large, now it is at its best. Air-conditioing - I may be wrong but I don't think palace, World, or Oase have it. At World it seems to stay cool in the main room but the side rooms can be either too hot or too cold (I don't think Oase is any better - Palacew I've not been to recently) As for the weather - just bear in mind it can be 16 one day and 26 the next, but that Frankfurt tends to be a bit warmer and drier than your Ruhr favourites
This next bit may be a downer for those who are able to use the FKK for a series of quick half-hour fun episodes, so I didn't put it in my earlier reports. But I think it's valid to put in as it reflects a different perspective which comes from spending about 30 hours at FKKW over four days,
Over this time the girls got to be more and more human as they saw me as a harmless fixture. One thing that comes across is the tedium for the girls - they spend hours (apart from one or two hunter girls) sometimes between clients and can do nothing apart from wait. yet they need to be psyched up all the time - so they nearly all smoke, and some definitely are using more alcohol than is good for them. If the girls have any sensitivity the job tends to mess with their heads so the best girls can also be the ones with most difficulties. I increasingly think they earn every penny - a girl could have 5000 sessions in a year and has to give a piece of herself to every one - no wonder some girls just want cats or to be alone. I have a huge respect for any girl that manages this job and gives good service. Anyway, that's probably more than enough seriousness.
And a word to the management - about time they dusted the expensive gold-coloured erotic statues. Sex and gathering dust don't go together
And if you're not sick of me mentioning Andrea. I amplify my previous warning - in the last few days I have discovered that there are a number of German clients who have crossed the boundaries with her and that all have had to re-establish the boundaries at a later stage with varying degrees of pain to them (and in some cases Andrea). She had varying depths of connection with those clients but in each case the trajectory of the relationship followed the same pattern. Having said that, I stand by my positive comments made previously about her. Somebody tell me to shut up - I'm like the Ancient Mariner wandering the world with warnings! (and no doubt make everybody like the wedding guest "a sadder and a wiser man/he rose the morrow morn" or maybe roar with laughter)
Shut up shiatsu! Just kidding.
Funny I was there about 6 weeks ago and went with 2 separate girls Lana and Polina who were both a few months shy of their 20th b-day.
Though I get the gist of your last 2 or 3 paragraphs some of the cryptic parts might be kinda difficult for our friends that might not read and write english as well. Correct me if I'm wrong but methinks you are going through some "crossing the boundaries" issues yourself (whether w/ Andrea or someone else) for making such thoughtful but rather pensive and dark observations.
It appears that the number of girls at World has reduced a lot in recent days (so I'm told) . Speculation is about whether there are not enough clients or whether they are just taking breaks. I guess the only way to know is for time and to see if Oase, Palace, PHG etc see the girls moving there instead of World.
This sort of ponts up the trouble with reporting - one week can be very different to the next
Hey Shiatsu!
I was at World on Saturday night and let me tell you, there was the most amount of girls I've seen there in my 4 visits in the last 6 weeks.
At least half the girls I spoke to or near sexually molested me to get business :O) had only recently started there this week.
I broke with tradition and went with a girl within 5 mins of walking into the place. Her name was Jennifer, from the Czech Rep and looked like a younger version of Olivia Newton John! Sadly, her technique i.e. her BBBJ was not very good so after about 10 mins we parted company (me €50 down :O( )
A couple of recommendations:
Macedonian (cannot remember her name), bleach-blond hair, 5' 4" and tatoo on her back (with her name - Stella?). No matter how hard you try and get her attention, she will not come over to you unless you go over to her. Her service is real porn-star. Boy can she deep-throat! Well, worth the money.
German girl (sorry, I'm shit with names!), comes from Koln, blond hair with a girl-next-door look. She offers ALL services and is without doubt in my top 5 of all timers. Sadly, I couldn't go with her on Sat night as some guy booked her pretty much for the whole evening, champagne and all.
A comment. Where World is danger of losing out to other establishments is on the recent showing of "groups" of young guys who hang around the club. A couple of weeks ago, a group of guys turned up together and pretty much dominated the club trying to be all macho etc. Spoils the atmosphere.
Anyway, the club still haven't picked up on my commenyt about the car park. Please, please get rid of the sharp gravel rocks! It seriously screws my car up. ;O(
PS: On my travels down to World, I stopped off at a new place in Kassel. Has anyone tried http://www.erotic-fantasy-kassel.com?
One must be cautious about not over-reacting to short-term fluctuations in the number of girls or clients. Week to week sees changes. At one point, some of us wondered whether the number of girls at a given club might suddenly increase as the end of the month/start of the month/paycheck cashing days came and went...
A point worth remembering is that as we enter the summer months, FKKs traditionally are not at their best. Maybe some of the girls are pissing off for holiday. So maybe are some of the male clients. So...impovershed attendance at the clubs.
I shall be at World and other Frankfurt area clubs later this week. I will report my findings in the near future...
Ortos
Was on a business trip to Frankfurt, last month. Visited the World after seeing the recommendations on here. Very much worth the hike. I actually had a car I rented, and driving in Germany is the Bomb. Probably the best mongering I have ever had the pleasure to engage in. Best part as far as I was concerned (and I am a BIG time breast man) was the large number of girls with huge natural breasts. In the US just about every nice rack is an implant. I have to say that at the World the Naturals outnumbered the Implants. Very nice!
Hi all you World lovers,
I'm going to go to World for the first time in a couple weeks. I've never looked for a particular girl before, usually just looking for that connection and taking it from there, but I've read so much about "Andrea" that I think I'll have to seek her out. This should bring back some found memories for those of you that know her, could someone please give me a detailed description of "Andrea" so i can spot her without asking for her. Also what is it about her that everyone seems to like so much? Is it her looks? Her Attitute? Personality? Sex skills?, What makes her the superstar of World? And also someone who has been to World lately please confirm that she's still working there. And finally, since I'll be in germany for over a week, are there good &/or bad days & times to go to World. For example, at Oase & the former Atlantis I used to like the weekends but would try and leave before 9pm (when it would get too crowded), I'd also try and arrive to see both the day shift & night shift. And I always try and avoid "bikini day", is it Tuesday's at World? I know it's Thursday at Oase. Thanks for any info. you guys provide and i hope you guys enjoy thinking of your past visits to World and times with "Andrea".
Travel
Travel 100
Surprise, surprise that it should be me who answers first. The best I can do is repeat an extract from my recent postings
Jet black hair down to waist (sometime tied in), black eye liner all the way round big eyes, slim, dark complexion, a wide face. . She arrives normally at 17.30 ish on Th, F, S and 16.30 on other days. She wears platform high heels. She hunts the room and has the ability to sweep the room with her eyes without focussing until she selects her prey. She is approachable sometimes.
You ask what it is that has created her popularity - I think it's that she enjoys sex, has a voracious hunger to learn from, and share experience with, people, is intelligent, soulful, and interesting. Negative aspects also exist. I won't say anymore - we each respond differently to different girls - and as a long time Andrea fan, I would suggest that my reporting is very subjective. It all depends on personalities. There are new girls there so maybe you'll find a new star
.Her sex skills are very good but then so are other girls- I'm not going into detail as I don't want any comments getting back to her (and she is sensitive to such things) Be adventurous, give her good sex, treat her like a person, talk to her - but as I've said before, draw a line firmly under the session. You get the best session if you get close to her - but don't get too close!
I'm told she is still working there, having come back from a short "holiday"
All days are good - Fri and Sat are busiest in terms of clients, Sunday tends to be quiet. The day/night shift is not as marked at Atlantis - the night girls come on anytime from 4 to 6 and the dayshift go anytime between 5 and 9. The number of girls does not vary greatly. It's never so busy that you can't find many girls.Tues is dessous day
Best read through all the past posts for getting a real fllavour
Travel100,
If you plan to travel to Germany in a couple of weeks, it would be helpful to tell us more pecisely, when.
At the moment, Andrea is working. But that doesn´t necesseraly mean that she will be working in August or whenever you plan to be in Germany.
Give me a more precise date and I'll do some research.
Last Monday I had a chance to visit FKKW again. I arrived at 9 pm and found about 25 girls. Several of my favorites were there (no Andrea, though). But I was in the mood to try someone new.
In the downstairs hallway leading from the pool to the stairs upstairs, I ran into Sasha. She is from Poland and this day was the first day for her to work at FKKW. She is a stunner, about 1.70 tall, slim, nice boobs, good tan, blond curly shoulder-length hair. Has a pretty face and glat stomach. I smiled at here, and she smiled back. We both stopped, and she simply reached under my towel, grabbing the one who commands me. He approved; so I had no choice. We made out for a while right there, standing in the hallway.
Then I asked her to join me on the couch in the downstairs living room. She was very happy to oblige. Very competent BBBJ! This may have been her first day at FKKW, but I bet that she has been a pro for a while already. (She is 22 years old, by the way).
While I was sitting on the sofa, she sat on top of me, facing me, rubbing her moneymaker against my member. She was teasing me, almost slipping him in, and rubbing her pussy up and down my shaft. She saw my reaction and clearly enjoyed it.
Ten minutes later we went to a room. Another great BBBJ, and then she initiated 69. Heck, yeah! I almost came right then. But I was able to postpone one more time. Then she put a condom on me and mounted me. I was grabbing her perfect tits as I was on my back and she on top of me. She was nice and tight, and she found just the perfect rythm. I didn't even think of resisting and lasted only about three minutes until I spilled.
I give her body a 9+, her face an 8, and her technique and attitude a 9+ as well. She is a great find, and I would definitely repeat with her.
The other girl I want to report on is Barbara. She is from Hungary, has hair as black and almost as long as Andrea's. She is a little rounder than Andrea, well proportioned, with nice large natural breasts. She reminds me of the girl drawings on the Playboy jokes page, just incredibly sexy. I would not say that we made a real connection, but the sex with her was very good, and particulary interesting was her DFK technique. Sex also lasted a lot longer than with Sasha. Again, money well spent.
Face 7, body 9, attitude 9. A keeper.
By the way, the public bed in the main Wintergarten is gone. Most of the girls do not like it to get shagged in such a public way, nor do they like to watch others do it.
It was very dark in the Wintergarten. For all of you friends of Atlantis level lighting, this should be your ticket now.
When I sat down to eat a bite, there were 11 beautiful naked girls also eating at the big table, sitting all around me, chatting, laughing, having a good time. "Guten Appetit", as the Germans say.
This was another great day at FKKW, with two more outstanding finds to add to my list of personal favorites. However, I must say that despite all of this, FKKW fell one spot to number two on my list of favorite places. See my post under the Oase Burgholzhausen section fo rthe reason why.
Hotels near the club:
FKK-World
Zum Grünen Baum
Schiffenbergstr. 5
Garbenteich
06404/ 7152
mitten in Pohlheim-Garbenteich
ländlicher Charme der 60er Jahre
Ü/F 26,- €
Gasthaus Häuser
Linden-Leihgestern
Tel. 06403/ 69111
ETAP Linden
Gewerbegebiet Luckebachtal
Gottlieb-Daimler Str. 8
35440 Linden
Tel: (+49) 06403/ 75 37 3
...ca. 10 Minuten vom FKKW
ETAP-Linden
Best Western Hotel Steinsgarten
Hein-Heckroth-Strasse 20
35390 Gießen
Telefon: ++49 (0) 641-38990
Telefax: ++49 (0) 641-3899200
info@steinsgarten.bestwestern.de
Zimmerpreise:
EZ ab € 105,--
DZ ab € 138,--
Wochenenden ab € 75,-- / € 105,--
wer's gerne ein bisschen gediegener hat, dem sei dieses Vier-Sterne-Haus in Gießen ans Herz gelegt
On the subject of hotels. Thanks Peter for the interesting very very local options
Giessen - Best Western Steinsgarten rack rate is as Peter says. However you should never need to pay more than 70E on a weekend night and 90Eon a weekday (M-Th). These rates are via hrs.de and other sources. About 15 mins drive from FKKW and it has easy parking. It's 20+ mins walk from station. By bus it's 30/45 mins from FKKW
IMHO it's better value at weekends than the cheaper (three star) Hotel Kohler if you like a quiet setting and good reception service. Not sure if Kohler has parking - it's about 20 mins drive from World (depending on traffic). It's 10 mins walk from station. You can book this via hrs.de as well
Alte Klostermuhle is a lovely traditional country old religious buildings hotel only 10 mins from World and about 8 mins from Autobahn exit at Munzenberg. Nice walks in woods (www.alte-klostermuehle.de) High quality catering - especially if you eat meat. Thre star 60Euro is what you ought to pay. A car is essential for this
A few other hotels can be found listed at http://www.deutsche-staedte.de/giessen/hotels/ For example the Hotel Adler is very central in Giessen and costs 50 Euro
Visited FKKW again last weekend. There were a lot of new girls I did not recognized from my previous visits.
I spotted Veronica from Poland. She had a smoking hot body and very cute face. She spoke no English and when I spoke to her, I got some bad vibe. I really should have followed my gut feeling. However, because she was so hot, I decided to check her out in the room without test driving at the couch. Big mistake. Her service was just OK. The session was rushed and we probably stayed there less than 10 min. To make the matter worse, she had one of the loosest kittens I have ever had in my life. Overall, disappointing session. 9/10/5 (face/body/service). No repeat for sure.
Then I spent time with Magda from Romania. She spoke English very well and I felt comfortable spending time wtih her. She did not provide any action at couch. She said she did not feel comfortable doing it in public. I was debating if I should go to the room or not. Because I felt good chemistry, I decided to trust my instict. Good call. It was very nice session and I enjoyed it a lot. 7/10/9. Will repeat.
The third one was Sandra from Poland. She was very friendly, so even though she was not totally my type, I decided to give her a try (and she gave me a nice couch action). It was a nice session. More PSE than GFE. 8/8/9. I don't know if I will repeat her. Nothing wrong, but as I mentioned, she is not really my type.
The fourth one was Jenny from Czech Republic. She was definitely a GFE provider. 9/8/9. I will repeat.
Hi Rain City,
It seems we have the same taste. My second girl of about 12 over three days was Veronika- but up until your report I remebered her name incorrectly as Viktoria. Veronika has super model ice princess demeanor with a slim school girl body, a small girlish perfect ass and shoulder length brownish hair. She did not speak English and like you, I found her service perfunctory although she gave, IMHO, a good if unvaried BBBJ. DFK aspect was fine too- this girl is a 10 physically and just making out with a girl of her caliber is woth the 50 euro for me. Since the sex was going no where, I had her lay on top of me belly to belly and gave her an intense massage during which she collapsed, smiled, and relaxed and sighed contentedly. All of this ran our session to almost 50 minutes, but she happily accepted 50 Euro. Two days later, while reclining outside, Veronika plopped herself on my lap and I got a little smoochie couch action but I eventually declined to return to the zimmer with Veronika.
My 5th girl of my first day was Magda, a slim pony tailed blonde from Transylvania with a bit of a big nose but on her it is very very cute. Couch action with her consisted of a 30 minute discussion of the USA and her girlhood dream of visiting and my invitations to do so at my place. Just talk, not even a kiss. She was so cute I took her to the room anyway- the session did not flow well- she is a take charge girl with some resrtictions, at first not allowing DATY saying some punter bit her, but eventually I got to taste her. BJ was excellent and the session was OK.
Beffen 1
Beffen1,
It sounds like you had a lot better time with Verinica than I did. I had a really good session with Magda. Funny how it goes. As always, YMMV.
I did not see the famous Andrea during my visit. Did you? I was thinking about having a session with her, but no avail...
Yes, indeed we seem to have the same taste when it comes to women. I would be happy to exchange notes with you, knowing probably we won't be disappointed with each other's recommendation. PM me if you would like to discuss this further.
I will have another trip to Frankfurt area planned in a few weeks. I will definitely visit World again.
Afternoon All,
Many thanks for your great posts. Just a quick question, after you pay to get into the club can you leave for dinner and then go back in a couple of hours later?
Also is it possible to purchase passes for say 3 days so you can wander in and out as you please but still get to enjoy the outside refreshments and bars?
Thanks in advance,
Nick
Nick P,
It is possible to leave the club and come back later. You don´t have to pay again, then.
I think it´s not possible tu buy a three-day-ticket. You have to pay your entrance for each day separately. But that´s not a big problem. You pay entrance in the morning and then you can step in and out that day as oftes as you wish to.
@ Nick,
Yes, you can reenter on the same day. When you are leaving just tell them you are coming back. They will leave the wristband on and then you can return.
there are no multi-day passes. It is a cash business where the balance starts again every day. You pay when you enter, each day.
Peter
Hi fellow mongers,
Will be in the Frankfurt area next week. Was thinking about Oase on Wednesday (late afternoon and night) and World on Thursday (all day).
Now I see on the World webpage that they have some kind of "party" on wednesday and I'm wandering if it is worth it to switch clubs (doing World on Wednesday and Oase on Thursday). Are these so called "parties" and special events something to write home about or perhaps just another way of tracking customers without providing anything of substance?
The great dilemma I'm facing is that I have more free time on Thursday and that's why I wanted to go to World then to sample their outdoor facilites during the day (have only been there during the winter so far). What a dilemma, 2 great places loaded with pussies and I can't decide which to do first. Ouch :-)
What is your experience with those special events. Any more fun than regular day? More ladies or perhaps just more men?
Chivaz
Chivas,
The Mallorca Party is nice. I have been to a previous one. They served some Spanish food and Sangria. Some of the girls took in a bit too much, and it got pretty amusing. I recommend this experience.
Other parties I have been to at World included the sushi eating off a naked girl party. That got old very quickly. But Mallorca promises to be fun. Go do it.
Oase and World both have nice outdoor facilities and will barbeque outside if the weather permits. So you cannot fail either way.
Euro
Chivaz,
No, I think you should stick with your original plan. Parties at World usually mean many, many more men and this translates into inferior environment to relax and do your thing with the girls. There will be more pressure on the girls to get through the session faster and you may not expereince the kind of relaxed environment that will certainly prevail on Thursday. I was there for two parties and I decided, in the future, to avoid parties at World. The only advantage was the lower entrance fee and perhaps more varied food.
Another point: Thurs at Oase is there dessous tag, where the girls where costumes. Wed at Oase can be nice days/nights.
Stick with your original plan, you will be happier I think.
Chivaz,
"Spanish Party" will be, when they offer Sangria for free...
That will most probably be the only difference to a normal wednesday. If this is enough to make you change your plans, ok...
I couldn´t even find a hint for reduced entrance fees.
Everything Ortos has written, is true. But be prepared to meet many tired girls at World on a day after a party. They have worked a lot the night before. So, if you´re a "sportive" banger, you might face a problem on a day after a party.
I went here on Sunday, on the way back from Prague. This place is good but I've noticed a drop in the quality of girls over the past weeks. They seem to be going for quantity rather than quality.
On Sunday, out of the 30 or so girls, a good third wouldn't get the time of day. Between "god damn ugly" to "I'll only shag if I were desparate!".
RB,
The club doesn't "Go" for quantity over quality. The club is not actively going out to hire girls, there are no firm contracts or the like. The club puts ads in the papers and relies on Word of Mouth. Girls come to the club to work. If they have legal papers and don't look completely horrid and pay their 65€ then they can work there. The clubs are not in a great position to choose their talent, or to hold good girls. Some clubs manage this well, but the big clubs tend to have higher turnover.
Summertime can lead to a drop in quality at a lot of clubs as the girls sometimes go on vacation at this time of year. A lot go to spain, protugal or home for 2-4 weeks. This is also a result of the fact that a lot of the male customers go on vacation in the summer too. Many customers are married with kids and take vacation according to school breaks. also with 6 weeks of vacation a year, Germans tend to go for longer too.
This means that a drop in talent in July and August is relatively normal.
Peter
Hey all,
I've been reading this board for a while now, and I have to say, thanks to all of you who helped show me how to get to paradise!
I visited paradise land last month, and it truly changed the way I behave around hotties. I'm much more relaxed around goddesses now than I was before, and it is showing somehow in the way I act around them, because since I came back I have been getting laid here like crazy by these beautiful home grown girls that I meet in clubs, but never used to dream of being noticed by them. Before I used to be the guy who stands in the corner, stairs at all the beautiful girls in the club, and not know what to say or how to flirt with them, then go home... now after I tasted them in their home land, (where hot blondes come from), I find myself at a comfortable level around them that is somehow making them comfortable enough to take me home and screw my brains out. It is either that, or my sudden sex deprivation after I came back from Germany made my unconscious mind find creative ways to chase that sex high even in dry land United States.
This is the good part, the worrying part however is that I don't know if I would ever want to give up paradise after I tasted it! not even for a hot girlfriend... I really don't care anymore, I will always want to be in the company of multiple beautiful naked hotties walking around spreading pleasure onto every one.
There is something to be said about being in the intimate company of a hot beautiful woman within 4 minutes after your eyes lay sight on her! or walking into a place full of hot naked and welling women right after you land, and not knowing which one to choose first! It is so similar to that feeling a drug user gets on their first hit of their favorite poison.
Well... Now that I've let these feeling out in this one place where I know they'd be understood, may I ask any of you who are visiting the World these days. Is the tall red head Goddess of Belarus still working there? She is a stunner by far. Something out of a fantasy comic book goddess. :)
I need another visit soon!
All the best,
greetings, my fkk comrades!
earlier this month, a free stopover in frankfurt on a united airlines frequent flyer award ticket provided the perfect opportunity and excuse for me to pay fkk world a visit. i’m now glad to write a narrative trip report. for the veterans familiar with the club, i have highlighted the few paragraphs worth reading with a red star ([red]*[/red]). first time visitors, however, may enjoy reading the whole report.
as background, i had spent the prior 3 nights in one of the premier mongering capitals of the world, moscow. you would think that having mongered day and night for 3 days straight with the gorgeous russian blondes would have totally drained me, and you would be right. however, there was a certain element of curiosity at work; after all, this was to be my first ever fkk experience!
while in moscow, i had rather hastily reserved a hotel room and a car, and had printed directions to the club from maps24.de. due to a state of total exhaustion, i collapsed only seconds after boarding the plane and slept essentially all the way from moscow to frankfurt, waking up to the “jolt” of the touchdown. by giving me an empty middle seat and a fat, ugly babushka in the other seat, those nice folks at lufthansa had given me what i really needed (sleep) as opposed to what i really wanted (another gorgeous blonde russian dyev in the seat next to me).
i made my way through passport control and down to the basement of terminal one, and found the rental car company’s counter. i had reserved a compact car for €49 (including all taxes), which i thought was not all that bad for a last minute online reservation. i was given a choice of a 1) ford “fuck”ous, or a 2) renault mégan coupé-cabriolet. beside being a total no-brainer, since i was going to do a lot of #1 anyway, i chose #2…
in my haste to quickly reserve a hotel room while i was still in moscow, i hadn’t done a good job locating a hotel in or close to pohlheim. in my infinite wisdom, i had reserved a room in a town west of polheim by the tune of a 20-minute car ride. it was a good value, though, for €59 including all taxes and an awesome breakfast spread. after the approximately 1 hour drive from the airport, i checked in, took a shower, bought a map from the gas station, and began to follow directions to the club.
the directions are rather simple, but since the streets in most small german towns wind and change names a lot, you may need a serious map to avoid confusion at the last mile. i got off a5 and wound my way through the town and after a brief reference to my map, found the club. once you are on the edge of the town the club is clearly visible and marked. i parked the car in the second (larger) parking lot, and entered the compound. it was about 7pm at this point.
once in the building, i was greeted by the receptionist who asked in german whether it is my first time. she started giving me a simple explanation in german, and sensing that my german was slow she automatically switched to english. she then assigned a hottie to show me to my lockers. you will get a wristband from the receptionist and a key. the key opens a main locker (for your clothes) and a smaller, p.o. box type one just around the corner from the showers. this one is for your money. i also got two towels, one for around my waist and a second for drying off. they also supply a pair of slippers. i showered, dried off, wrapped the “formalwear-lol” towel around my waist and entered the main room.
the facilities are indeed impressive. the main room had a bar with about 15 stools in front of it, occupied by an equal mixture of mongers and chicas. there are four large flat screen monitors displaying porn, centered on a single, small, raised dance platform with a pole in the middle. nobody used this platform when i was there. there are many couches in this room, populated by the many chicas and the occasional monger. next, there is a set of stairs leading down to the outdoor pool and the well maintained gardens. back in the building, there is a large dining room with a very large (20+ chair) table, where a buffet of soup, german wurst, and a few salads are presented. the food is o.k., but certainly not on par with the rest of the club. next to the main dining room there is another smaller area with 3 smaller (4 chair) tables. i never got to spend any time in there, but right beside the bar there is the movie theater (kino).
from the back of the room, a corridor and another set of stairs lead you to the lower level, were there are about 10 rooms with beds, several hallways, a large indoor pool, a whirlpool, a “dry” sauna and a steam room, and a few (maybe a little too few) toilets. there is a large massage room where a real male masseur can attend to you. there is also another richly appointed room with persian carpets and bronze statues and a few couches, with a large television displaying, err… what else? from this room, you can access the atrium that contains the dry sauna and opens up to an outside porch in the garden.
after a quick look around, i came back upstairs and went to the dining room to get something to eat. there was a chica sitting around the table and doing the same, all alone. she signaled to me to join her. i got a plate and loaded some food into it, and sat near the chica. she was a petite light brown-haired girl of about 22 years who spoke decent english. she was from romania, and said her name was andrea. i immediately recognized the name from this forum, but almost instantly realized that she could not be the famous one. i said to her that this was my first time, and she explained how things work. after i ate, i thanked her. she acted somewhat annoyed that i am not going into a session with her immediately: “sure, you talk to me but go with other girls….”, she said. not ready for my first session though, i gave her some polite excuse and started exploring some more.
[red]*[/red] i took a soft drink in my hand, and started walking around a little more to get the “lay on the land”. people would come and go, but at any give moment i would estimate the average number of mongers in presence to be about 30-35. as for the girls, there were about 35-40 in all. as far as looks go, there were a few 6’s, lots of 7’s, about a dozen 8’s, and less a than handful of 9’s. nationalities? here is how the breakdown was on that monday night in early july: about 60% were from romania, most of which, for some reason, were from transylvania. in the remaining 40%, there was a single german girl, a single turkish girl, a single black girl, and a single latvian girl. the rest was a mixture of polish, bulgarian, and czech girls. some notables: first, shiatsu’s andrea was not there, to my knowledge. second, the one german girl there was huge! i mean that in a good, sexy way, as in “a lot of woman”! she was at least 1.85m, was wearing glasses, and had a very pretty face and very long legs (not petite, but shapely). she was never available as she had mongers drooling after her left and right. the turkish girl was also sinfully delicious. she had a pretty face, a very generous rack, and an ever so slightly rounder, middle eastern type of bum. yummy! she ran into me once and i promised to take her soon, but when i was ready she was already gone with a monger and had another one waiting for her; another busy girl.
[red]*[/red]the romanians dominated the scene, and they were everywhere. true to form, as the cloak of darkness grew, these transylvanian beauties came to life, becoming ever more aggressive in the hunt for their hopeless prey. each girl had developed a special “hook”, a method for entangling the potential victim. some would shamelessly attack, some would blow kisses, and one who i eventually “session’ed” with would grab your face and show you to her friends saying: look, isn’t he cute? i just have to fuck him today. well, she got her wish, and i’m sure the €50 was merely an afterthought ;).
the polish “mission” congregated in the lower level by the stairs, and one could be certain of an ambush as soon as one would descend the steps. they were, for the most part, very pleasant in their advances but i did not have the “pleasure”, as austin powers would say it. i never understood the idea of a green eyed, fair skin blonde dying her hair jet black, but this seemed to be “in” among these polish girls. ditto for the latvian i eventually “session’ed” with.
something in my head (or maybe it was something under my towel ;)) was telling me it was time for my first session. being an fkk virgin, i had no idea what to expect as far as sex is concerned. as if this entire post weren’t a giant digression, allow me to digress a little more: at that point in time i had two entirely opposite frames of reference. on one hand, i was thinking of my previous experiences in germany. years ago, when there were still a meaningful number of actual german girls working in eros centers, i used to visit them from time to time. i don’t need to tell you that the service consisted of hardened pros trying to milk you for as much money as possible before rushing you to finish as fast as possible. that was then, i was a horny teenager, and just didn’t know any better. now if i’m ever confronted with the same situation i doubt if i could even finish the task. on the other hand, i had just come from moscow, the land of passionate, “hot and heavy” all-nighters, and as such demanded a higher level of service.
[red]*[/red]before i could ponder for much longer, i was approached (rather entrapped) by alexandra. she was an aggressive 22-year-old romanian with short black hair and a rather flat face. not bad, and i would give her a 7 for looks. not having had any pussy for an unfathomable grand total of 16 hours by now, i happily obliged, and we retired to a “zimmer” to consummate the deal. she was a good “warm up”, and offered light kissing on the lips, quick but brisk bbbj, followed by missionary and cowgirl for a few minutes before a quick pop: nothing special, but no complaints either. it would only get better from here. we then walked to the locker and she collected her little gift of €50. my fkk virginity was lost….
i took a shower, ate some more food, and took a walk in the garden. i noticed a tall, good-looking monger chilling on the porch and speaking english with the characteristic american intonation. i thought how funny it would be if he too were a wsg member. i opened a conversation with him while sitting on the chair. before long, i was ambushed by the latvian girl who started to dfk and rub herself on me. but i’d just come out of another session! damn! what a wonderful problem to have. after a few minutes of this and the latvian not giving up, i excused myself from the aforementioned monger and started to “walk to the bathroom” just so i could escape! i told the girl i would take her later that night.
[red]*[/red]about half an hour later i ran into alice, a 20 year-old romanian whose “hook” was to grab faces and show her victims to her friends. well, it worked, and off we went to a zimmer. the session was better this time, with dfk, longer bbbj, cowgirl, missionary, and doggie. another pop, and we were soon standing by the lockers for a €50 donation to alice’s favorite charity.
after a shower, i went down and sat in the whirlpool, and was joined by the aforementioned monger. well, as it turns out he not only was a reader of wsg, but also a contributor. he was no other than our esteemed “beffen1”! we had a few interesting conversations, but were cut short again by the latvian waning to claim her prey. so, off we went to a zimmer again….
[red]*[/red]i didn’t catch her name, but she was very passionate; a 20-year-old blonde-turned-brunette (well, actually not even a brunette, we are talking jet black hair!) with a killer body (8) but sadly, bad teeth [post script edit: beffen1 later wrote that this girl was lisa]. long bbbj, followed with some missionary, and i finished with slow, rhythmic cowgirl. great session! we went up and i made a €50 donation to her college fund, and off i went to the shower. i could now have some peace!
[red]*[/red]wrong! as soon as i sat on the couch in the downstairs “formal” room to watch some porn, a czech duo approached me. one was a taller, petite redhead with a b rack, and the other was a shorter, but more enthusiastic brunette. having just walked out of my 3rd session in only a matter of hours, i could not even begin to think of being able to even get an erection, let alone go through with (and finish) another act. but, as it turns out, i had taken a cialis tablet the night before while i was in moscow. well, friends, much to my amazement, the yellow devil turned that “relaxing moment” into a “ right moment” after only a few minutes of couch action. still, i wasn’t sure if i could “finish”, until i saw the shorter one stick her tongue out and rotate it in a provocative way…sold!
[red]*[/red]so, i was now not sure whether i have enough euros in my wallet to pay them. no problem, i could use the atm. but then again, i wasn’t keen on leaving such an obvious paper trail, whereby i could be traced to an atm inside an fkk. again, no problem! they would gladly take $60 each in lieu of 50€ (ah, the good old days… everyone remembers it was the other way around not too long ago). financial worries aside, the three of us headed for yet another “zimmer”. once inside, some heavy duty dfk ensued, and i discovered that the little one has an affinity to bite. this wasn’t a problem, but it soon became too much of a good thing during bbbj. the redhead was a little more sensual so i started to kiss her neck and shoulders and she began to get “into it”. she then climbed on top for some cowgirl while the shorter one was licking my two soldiers and then straddled my chest. awesome! a quick switch to missionary was made, and the redhead started going crazy, trashing around, etc. with each movement of mine. the shorter one wanted a piece of the action by this point, so i switched girls (but not positions!) and continued missionary with this very wet and enthusiastic girl. in no time, i reached orgasm in a rather loud manner, causing the chicas next door to peek in to make sure everyone still had a pulse. after catching my breath i took them upstairs and gave each of them $60 to add to their foreign currency collections. oh wait! i still had another €120 in my wallet! i thought to myself, that there is no use for this money tonight, as i am “done” for the night. well, i was wrong again! after yet another shower, i went to the whirlpool and talked to beffen1 and his friend, and later to two other international mongers whose language i could speak.
i said my goodbyes, and started walking to the dining room to eat some more food and leave. i went to the bar to get myself a soda. in one of the stools, a most gorgeous romanian with black, curly hair was sitting. she gave me a very subtle smile, and fixated her huge, hazel eyes on me. it was as if dart vader had fixated his laser saber on this mere mortal that was i. naturally, i was drawn to her. she gently touched my towel, and remarked (in the best english i had heard from the girls the whole night) that she will be getting me a new one, as this one was wet. she brought me a new towel while i was eating on the table, and sat down and had a “normal” conversation. her name was georgia, and she has a kind of an untamed beauty in her; nice facial features, very sensual collarbones, wide-open hazel eyes and a very alluring demeanor. after about 25 minutes of just talking, when i brought up the subject of being “sexed out”, she said: “honey, i have an amazing mouth! i wouldn’t miss out”.
[red]*[/red]well, once again the “relaxing moment” turned into a “right moment”, and her slow, methodical dfk induced a raging hard-on. we retired to the “zimmer” and just kissed one another for a good 10 minutes: on the lips, on the shoulders, on the back of the neck, on the sides of the body, and so on. georgia was truly the “pièce de résistance” for the whole night, and couldn’t have come at a better moment. even though i was fully aroused, the acute “hunger” for sex was fully satisfied by that point, and i could appreciate her slow, sensual moves. she started her bbbj, and i realized that she hadn’t lied to me earlier in the dining room. she was very wet at this point, and got on top of me for a very deep but slow, drawn out cowgirl ride, while intermittently bending forward to give me an amazing dfk. i then finished both of us in the missionary position. of the 6 girls tonight, she was the only one who had an orgasm (i hadn’t daty’ed anyone, including her, and that is probably why). i thought her performance was outstanding. to be able to give such a profound illusion of class and infatuation in a mere 30 minutes takes some skills, and she certainly had it.
i showered again, changed into my regular clothes, said goodbye to all the girls, and left around 2:45am. the receptionist took my wristband off before leaving. imagine forgetting this step and walking into the local hotel, where just about everyone knows where the wristband is coming from! but then again, in germany this probably wouldn’t even raise an eyebrow. outside, there was a very gentle, perfect breeze, and the temperature was just right. i let the car top down, and slowly began to drive away. i can not begin to tell you how euphoric i was, having had sex with six gorgeous girls in only a matter of hours, and now i was feeling the night breeze through my hair as i was driving this beautiful car and listening to great music on the radio…incredible stuff, never to be forgotten.
in the morning i woke up around 9:30am. i showered, went down for the incredible breakfast buffet, checked out, and headed down to the airport for my noontime flight. i was at the airport by 10:20 am, and had plenty of time to return the car, get my boarding pass, go through passport control, and relax in the first class lounge. yes, this was a freebie award ticket and the only way i would ever fly first class, and it sure felt great! to top all of this off, once i was in my seat i realized i was in for a rare treat. i had a gorgeous french babe as the flight attendant, in an airline where i expected it the least: united! those who fly this airline regularly know how rare this is. once i told her a few french words, she smiled and conducted the whole thing in french, all the way back to the sex prison…
sexplorer
hi sexplorer,
great report, you had me reliving the night. the girl you had dinner with was my "girlfriend" of the trip andrea, as you were dressing to leave we had a final session for one hour of snuggles, intense dfk and oral only, after three days and three sessions with andrea- i was ausgeneukt, all fucked out. then as my friend and i dressed, she appeared at the locker to get paid yet again by a young guy who came in 15 minutes or so.
your little latvian sex bomb brunette is lisa - cute as hell except for those teeth. my friend also succumbed to her [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] like ways- she told me at the pool during the day when she tried to seduce me that she was 19. i like that patio, my polish ice queen veronika tried real hard to get me again there.
very nice to meet and monger with you. i too was on an award ticket first class that trip. the only way to go. and i just got another, except in coach this time for sept 1. so, i wonder if i can hold out until labor day? i must.
regards,
beffen1
Sexplorer,
Now you understand why we are so enthusiastic about FKK World. I have mongered in many countries around the world, but FKKW is tops on my list.
Euro
Beffen1, Euro 100:
Thank you for your kind words. I am "enlightened" now, which is a euphemism for saying I am hooked!
I too can not wait until the next trip. I doubt I can sustain the rate at which I "session'ed" that day for more than one day at a time. I posted some of my thoughts about this on a [url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=256614#post256614][red]different thread[/red][/url]. As such, and given that Frankfurt is a convinient transfer point for just about anywhere in Europe, I think in the future I will arrange my trans-Atlantic trips with a one night layover in Frankfurt, such that I can visit FKK-World from time to time.
I'll look forward to seeing you and many other gentelman mongers in the near future.
Sexplorer
this july 4th trip was turning out to be a corker. after a four girl introduction to the new club golden time in bruggen on jet lag day, followed by a day 2 visit to phg that featured a 2.5 hour gfe romp with tiny tik of thailand and a shorter session with teen porno queen sammi, i awoke on day 3, a sunny saturday, to the racket of the traffic and street noise of downtown venlo. i hurriedly packed and eschewed the rather meager breakfast at stationshotel and caught the 9:04 regional express to dusseldorf. unfortunately, my connecting ice train would be 35 minutes late and then it would lumber slowly to cologne where it broke down. after another 30 minutes waiting for instructions, a second ice pulled in on the next track and the conductor told me its next stop was frankfurt flughaven so i jumped off, leaving the largely dutch passengers on my amsterdam bound train, and switched trains, as did only a couple of other passengers. arriving at the airport, i took the s-bahn from the airport to frankfurt main without buying a ticket and happily no one was checking tickets. arriving at my room at excelsior hotel just across the street from the hauptbahnhof at 2, i collapsed on the bed and relaxed waiting for the prearranged meeting at 4:30 with ortos.
down in the lobby of the excelsior hotel, ortos was right on time and as we got into his renault rental and hit the highway toward fkk world, i felt as though we knew each other already, and in many ways we did. his unbounded enthusiasm for the hobby matched mine and i knew it would be fun hanging with this learned practitioner of the sacred quest. taking careful note of the route and trying to remember the wealth of information ortos imparted on the 40 minute car trip, we soon arrived at the club which is in a peaceful and quiet wooded setting. we parked at the end of the large parking area whereupon ortos presented me with my gram of buddha’s sister and some papers. he then lit up a bowl of neville’s haze and i had two or three deep lingering tokes which was all i needed. i left ortos in his car to stoke up more of his diverse stash while i walked the long winding path to the entry way, peeking over the fence in anticipation to view the largely empty grounds. by the time i arrived at reception, i was totally blasted and cottonmouthed. i paid the 65 euro eintritt, was wristbanded, given my key and two towels and a short tour of the dressing room area by an attendent. i hurriedly showered just to get some water down my throat. at the bar, i ordered a cola and surveyed the scene. the first girl sitting at the bar was quite cute, a slim blonde girl with a christina aguilera-like face. i chatted her up in a stoned haze and she seemed friendly enough but i didn’t want to commit to the first girl i saw so i excused myself and walked around the room and then the garden. it was sunny breezy and cool so i relaxed on a lounge chair in the sun. every now and then naked girls would walk by, alone, in pairs, or with a guy. a librarian blonde made a wisecrack that i should be inside screwing. so, after a short rest, and another look inside, i did indeed find myself back with christina aguilera.
alexandra is from bulgaria and 21 years old. she led me by the hand through what then seemed to me an inscrutable maze of hallways and rooms- i was lost and just putty in her hands. after a long stroll through the maze, with me admiring her supple young quite naked ass,we reached a room that was quite dark with no means of turning on the lights. i informed alexandra that i want to see her in all her loveliness and could we find a room with better lights. we found another adjacent room and we spread our towels on the bed. this is one difference from phg and golden time, you bring your own towels, the ones you wear, into the room, no new sheets for each punter. anyway, sex with alexandra was fine, dfk was gfe all the way, lengthy deep and passionate, and her oral skills were delicate, varied, and did not neglect any of my erogenous zones. indeed i found that many of the girls i met on this trip payed much skilled oral attention to the nether regions. fuckwise, i flipped her any way i wanted her, kissing and licking her everywhere and fingers were allowed too. a very nice session but i was a bit distracted since we apparently had noisy neighbors. some areas of fkk world have blocks of rooms which are simply cubicles with chinese screens and the walls are very thin. so on one wall a girl is moaning and screaming, in the other wall a guy is making small talk with a girl about his vacation, and the third wall another guy is grunting and spritzing in a girls face after which we hear the discussion that she is ready to get up and clean up while he wants to stay bask in post coital afterglow. a bit of sensory overload for me, so i did not finish with alexandra, though she is to be recommended.
nonetheless, i emerged happy with the quality from my first fkk world encounter, and was soon joined by ortos at the bar. more girls were arriving and ortos imparted some tips on how to use couch action to size up the chemistry you have with a girl. he walked me around the club, pointing out high traffic areas like the downstairs indoor pool and relax zone with couches, where one can rest and observe. he then was off to do a session since he wanted top leave about 10 pm to see a new flame at palace. for my part, i soon forgot everything ortos told me about couch action and went to chat up a slim drop dead gorgeous supermodel waif i had spotted earlier leaning seductively over the cocktail tables. veronika is from poland, with low back length brown hair and a slim schoolgirl body i love so much. she spoke no english but i got her to sit on a couch with me for a couple of minutes, during which exploratory kisses went well despite the language barrier. so i asked her to get a key and off to the zimmer we went. veronika was a gorgeous ice queen in the zimmer. dfk was permissive but not passionate. i was not allowed at first to play digitally with her pussy, although she later relented. her bbbj included some degree of belly and ball licking but was largely unvaried and insistent, trying to get me to come. sex was just ok, she was not very responsive, but unbeatable eye candy. after a while, near the end of our session, i had her lie on me belly to belly and gave her a deep shoulder, back, and butt massage which caused her to relax and melt into me sighing in restful pleasure. another no pop session, and we went to the lockers i gave her 50 euro for nearly an hour of room time, i did not charge her for the massage.
again, i met up with ortos, and complained lightly about my difficulties in finishing, but i was having a great time. soon, ortos went off to do his second and last session before leaving for palace. soon i found myself chatting with a girl in the romanian section. carmen was a black haired curvy cutie pie. aged 21, they all seemed top be 21, she gave good couch action and we found a room after 10 minutes. another gfe kisser with great oral skills, carmen excelled at cowgirl, writhing her pelvis to get maximal pressure and friction while riding peppy to what semed like miniorgasms on her part. she appreciated any attentions given to her ample bosom. finally, i exploded on her ass during doggy. facial finish is 50 euro at world, and i am not that into franzosiche totale.
back at the main room, it was now raging, there were many girls all over the place. i sat on a couch and two black haired german girls sat either side of me. one had ddd’s and the other was firmer and more athletic. they flirted, kissed, rubbed stroked my body and my unit, and i tasted their tits and lips and rubbed their pussies. the athletic one tried to suck me but i stopped her telling them, i was not ready for a zimmer. they laughed and tried for a few more minutes, getting me rock hard under the towel but i declined again and they left me to hunt for another. so, after a free 15 minute foreplay threesome on the couch, i again found ortos. we wandered around downstairs, my head was turning back and forth from all the hotties. then, near the relax couch zone and the pool, a long-legged dark haired romanian [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] caught my eye. a quick flirt with her and i was hooked on her looks, and i said goodbye to ortos, and we agreed to meet in my hotel the next day at 4:30 pm for a return trip to world or perhaps oase. off i went to the zimmer with valli, without benefit of couch action. she seemed younger than her stated age of 21 and was not a great provider, a little bit evasive, distant, and “un professional”. but she was a comfortable screw and worth the 50 euro for 30 minutes of riding yet another fantasy [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] girl.
now its about midnight. i had something to eat, a sauna, as short dip in the pool inside, and a rest. i saw a cute slim blond girl with a pony tail and a largish but very cute nose. magda is 22 and from transylvania and we went to the couches but ended up just talking for 30 minutes, she doesn’t do couch action and i couldn’t even get a kiss. on the next couch, a guy had a girl giving him a deep throat bbbj pouring champaigne on his unit and slurping away with her ass pointed in magda and my direction. magda dreams of visiting the us and i of course told her all about beffen’s travel agency and home for wayward girls. we parted ways for a while. i went back to eat some more and was joined by two black girls at the table, a brazilian thalita and her cuban friend. we chatted over dinner in spanish, which they loved, and they tried to seduce me at the table, offering me their body parts to play with between forkfuls of food. i declined to go to the room and we exchanged phone numbers, thalita also wants to visit ny, and i went to the pool lounge chairs. it wasn’t long before my negritas found me and began molesting me again, this time surrounding me with the proffered nipples, deep alternating threesome kisses, finally yanking off my towel and manulally working me to full erection in view of two us army mps in the whirlpool. after some 30 minutes of this, i convinced them that i was not going to a room anytime soon and they relented, leaving me with my hard on and my thoughts. but not before thalita lay on top of me, bending my throbbing johnson, and demanded i giver her an erotic massage for her troubles. of course my sweet, so for another 15 minutes i rubbed her belly, ass, back, shoulders, boobs, and tickled her twat while she twisted this way and that and and sighed with pleasure.
they rest of my first night at fkk world is a blur, i remember wandering around and marveling at how hot and varied all these girls look, walking around, posing, fooling with their mates, all naked. no one used the stage or pole to dance that night. i figured i would stay until 4:30 and catch the 5:20 train. i visited my locker and sneaked a shot or two of my hornitos and grabbed my weed stash that st supplied earlier. i took a stroll in the garden and smoked a micromini joint outside. after a while, i saw the slim cutie magda was free and as she rang my bell visually and we had had a good couch chat earlier , i approached her again and we took a room. magda was a bit of a control freak, “you lay down there” but after a while we found a rhythm. at first she wouldn’t let me lick her, stating a guy had bitten her a few days earlier, but i am a gentleman and behaved as one and she relaxed and allowed me to beffen her muffin. we had an ok session and i forced myself to finish as she rode me reverse cowgirl and i fingered her ass hole gently as she writhed atop my nearly pooped pole.
at 4 am, i stopped one short of a six-pack and asked the desk lady to call me a cab to giessen for 4:30, in hopes of making the 5:20 to frankfurt. i ended up sharing the cab with the two very young us army mp’s, who were starting their day shift one hour after returning to base from a night of fkk world. at the gates of the us army post, there were two streetwalkers waiting for returning lonely soldiers right next to the guard house. only in germany. i paid the 15 euro taxi fare and got out at giessen bahnhof. but wait, scheiesse. i had miscalculated. this was sunday morning and i missed the 4:40 train to frankfurt. the next one is not until 6:50. so, i made myself comfortable on the platform, sipped my remaining stash of hornitos tequila and smoked another minimicro joint of buddha’s sister, and spaced out in the daybreak sunshine until my train came. i arrived back at the excelsior at nearly 8am, went straight to the breakfast room and gorged on sausage, ham, cake, and toast and fruit, and went to my quiet room to sleep the day away until my 4:30 pm rendezvous with ortos.
tchsuss. to be continued.
I'm doing my (probably) last ever trip to World this weekend coming - July 30, to Aug 1 inclusive. If anybody is planning to be there then maybe PM me so we can say hi?
Shiatsu,
"Last ever trip to World"? Whats up with that, are you getting married, dying, coming out of the closet ?
OR, did you fuck everything you could in that place and heading to a new playground like Buenos Aires ?
Have a great trip regardless, Maybe if Andrea shows up you will change your plans !
Regards,
Carnal1
Beffen1:
Awesome post!
I wonder if the Alexandra you had was the same one I had. In that case, I was mistaken in reporting that she was from Romania. She had rather short black hair, slightly darker (or more tan) skin, and kind of a flat face. Even though everyone there is pretty thin, she was a little thinner.
You also wrote:[quote]...a second ICE pulled in on the next track and the conductor told me its next stop was Frankfurt Flughaven so I jumped off,.... and switched trains, as did only a couple of other passengers. Arriving at the airport, I took the S-bahn from the airport to Frankfurt Main without buying a ticket and happily no one was checking tickets.[/quote]
Your worries were unnecessary, as I do believe you were riding the S-Bahn legitimately, since you already had a valid ticket to Frankfurt on DB. Remember, S-Bahn's are also part of DB in addition to being part of the local transport network. At least that's the way it was when I lived in Germany, many, many years ago ;). If I'm [out]dated on this, please correct me guys.
Sexplorer,
Our Alexandra is definitely from Romania.
Beffen's Alexandra must be another girl.
Sexplorer,
No, my Alexandra had dyed blond hair that was shoulder length and she looked just like Christina Aguilera facially. I actually repeated with her on my final day, taking her to a cabin for 30 more minutes of GFE makeout sex.
Regarding the train, actually, the agent at the international desk at Schipol had only ticketed me for Venlo to Frankfurt Flughaven at 63 euro intead of to Frankfurt Hbf for 68. So I did get over on DB, good, they have been nothing but late everytime I use them.
Thank heaven for the Levitra, set loose in this supermarket of international sexual delights that is World, it is great to be able to make hay while the sun shines and test drive a bevy of beffable beauties, selecting the real GFE material for those more relaxed and prolonged microhoneymoons.
Beffen
Carnal 1
My wife is getting fed up that there are no FKKs for women, so it may be that my activities follow her towards partytreffs instead of FKK! And even worse/better - I'm thinking a weekend at home with my wife will be more fun than World!!
So yes - married I am, dying also but no timescale (all the more reason to go to World) - but definitely not coming out of the closet
As ffor Andrea - well, I had an amazing experience on the E55 (see Czech posts) which make Andrea see like getting blood from a stone. Very fond memories - but I hope to keep them in the past
cu again sometime
Great posts Beffen and Sexplorer,
Beffen: You are taking a chance when you bring any illegal substance into a club. They get raided from time to time and when they do all of the lockers get searched and you will likely get caught. Probably you won't get into too much trouble for just a few joints, but you should check this out.
Sexplorer,
I also used to think that there weren't enough toilets at World, but then I discovered that there is a huge bathroom by the reception with plenty. They should probably put up a sign or something.
Shiatsu,
I sincerely wish you luck in your marriage. I hope you can stick to your intention to avoid FKKs from now on. But I have my doubts. I have yet to meet a guy who has sampled the FKK pleasures and then been able to stay away. It's just not within our nature. We need to f..k as many beauties as we can. One is never enough, even if she is a goddes in the sack.
I was not able to stay away from the scene, even though I was married to a gorgeous model, a girl who just about averybody agreed is a 10. But somehow there is an inescapable lure to an FKK, where you can have fantasy encouters in almost complete anonymity.
But hey, maybe you will be different. That would be great for you.
Euro
Shiatsu,
I cannot recall if it was you or Isseu that brought Andrea over to me and placed her on my lap? I broke my Kino Cherry that night at World, what an experience. I vividly recall sitting in the Kino while she gave me an incredible DTBBBJ, all while some cleaning gal kept walking over next to me emptying a "empty" ashtray. She did this at least 3 times while I was lying there with Andrea slurping away. This gal must have got alittle excited watching all of this, doubt it was her first voyeur experience!
FKK for women, doubt that you will find anything like that unless you have your wife saunter thru an American Bar wearing a towel!
Regards,
Carnal 1 aka Lanrac
trip report 2 of 6
thursday 22. july. arrived with 3 collegues (x, y and z) at 13:00. this was only my second visit to world. the settings have been described enough already , but here are my 2 cents: it is great for relaxing, the pool, sunbeds and the outside area is great. but the inside area is just to big with do many exits. you might see a girl you want to have later, just to never find her again, even if she's not busy all the time. it also seems to me that gravity has taken more toll on the girls at world compared to oase and palace, although the world girls night be younger on average. either the gravity force is stronger at world or perhaps you have much higher percentage of young moms there. also seems to me that world is becoming a romanian dominant place (each to his own if that is a good or a bad thing).
we had some good sessions here, but also some of the worst during our trip. you will understand what i mean when you read the report. grading system is described in first trip report in oase section:
millenia - romania - c: my first session. blonde [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]. very small and thight pussy. nice bbbj. did not speak english but understood basic things and obeyed. uninspired and did not connect. had a foul breath (not the smoking type, just plain bad breath) which killed all kissing activity.
now for the strange thing: there was this porno movie playing. i was watching while relaxing after first session. the girl is beeing pounded and is obviously is having here period with blood coming out. i'm used to many things, but this is a real turnoff for me. why in the hell would they be showing that kind of a movie? well, the strangest thing happens in my next session and colleague y session.
y chose a ramona (albanian/italian). average bbbj and on to regular fucking. all of a sudden there is blood everywhere. this girl was having her period big time on the bed. y is totally put off by this and the girl seems to be extremely sorry "it is too early. i'm not to begin my period until few days. i'm very sorry yada yada yada". she seemed genuenly sorry. she had to call for help from staff of the club to clean up the mess. she said she would have to stop working today because of this. well guess what. this girl continued working all day and night. management must know this as they had to clean up the room so we felt there was nothing more to add to their knowledge about the situation. we thought about to tell her prospects, but decided against it as we did not want to cause a scene.
if this was not enough in the weird dept., my next session was with a very muscular girl (i don't remember her name) but i remember to have read a review of her. she claims to come from check rep. did gymnastics and is into fitness. extremely strong thighs and strong arms. smallish perky breasts. inspired by catalyst, i asked her to do it on the lawn behind the trees. she was ok with that. we found a semi privat spot and she started a very deep bbbj on the lawn. i comment on that she is able to go pretty deep. she somhow misunderstood as i wanted deeper (ok with me), and starts deep throat. she literally took it all in, gagging quite a bit with salive flowing out of her mouth. at one time there were such noices from her stomach, i thought she was going to throw up and i told her to take it easy.
this is now looking to be a very good session. she mounts me cowgirl and i ride her hard. i have never fucked a girl with such strong legs. i decide it is time for some missionary and ask her to get on her back. take my member out for a second and to change position and the condom is covered in blood. what the hell. is this the twilight zone? first the porno movie, then my colleague and now me. this is disastrous. she does exactly the same act "i'm so so so sorry. this is too early yada yada yada". then i saw her an hour later going with another customer. what was developing into a great session turns out to be a disaster. not only the turnoff, but i had gone down on her and have that to worry about also.
rating is hard but we agreed that working while menstruating cannot be anything but an big f.
but there were some decent sessions also:
cindy - check rep - b: tall blond with glasses. there are several reports on this girl. she is a model type. could probably do well as a high class escort. very gentle.
anna - romania - c: good body, long black hair, rather quick and uninvolved experience. good bbbj and decent sex.
forgot name - spain (la coruna) - c: dark brown hair, medium figure, ok attitude and ok sex.
"anorexia" (colleague z forgot her name, but we named her after her body - you will understand when you see her). - c: blond extremely petite and thin 18 year old blond from romania. has been working in world for a month. regular sex, very controlling an inpersonal.
sabrina - germany - b: black hair, glasses, "teacher look", rather dark skin. birth mark on hip. good bbbj, nice attitude and all in all a good experience.
carmen (bulgaria or romania) - c and larissa (romania - b): after the "blood bath" for me and my colleague y, we were relaxing downstaires in the sofas next to the pool and this girls starts posing for us. we are not interested but she continues which was fine with us. her friend arrives and they do some more posing and we decide it might be fun to to them together in a large bed. a deal is struck and we go find a room. i did larissa and y did carmen. i had a hard time coming and while fucking larissa had one helluva workout. she would moan very loud (a bit too much faking it) which cracked me up and she got a bit embarrassed by that. she claimed to be from spain but afterwards i said "so larissa from rumenia, do you want a cigarette". i was just fishing on a hunch, but she admitted she was from romania and explained that with so many girls from romania in there she thought it would be better for her and business to be from somewhere else.
we got into discussion with these girls about our previous problems in the club with the menstruating girls. they tried to avoid the subject, but finally said that we should have stopped immediatly, not pay, and report to management and they should not be working during their period. well, management definetly knew that one of them was working so i'm not sure if that would have made any difference (i later discussed the issue with a girl at palace and she said that many of the romanian/bulgarian/albanian girls might work during that time of the month), but you would probably never find a western european girl doing that.
i had harder time doing the pre-rituals with the girls at world than at oase and palace. i like to talk and get to know them a little bit in order to have some kind of minimal connection before having sex with them. i felt that on average, girls at world have the worst english language skills with the girls at palace having the best english skills.
our experience at world this time is hopefully not typical. but after my visits to palace, i will stick to oase and palace and skip world.
next stop was flamingo island.
Euro,
I totally agree with you, even though I am single now, and I have just discovered the FKK scene 2 months ago (Thanks to all of you here ;) ) after a year of frustration with local girls in the U.S., and a major break up with the one and only person I loved in all of my past relationships.
Now I can totally see myself going back there very frequently whether I get a girlfriend or not, however after I got back from my FKK trip, I've noticed I have been getting a lot more attention from beauties and goddesses here in the U.S. Somehow women can sense the vibe around a guy who is sexually drunk, and they get attracted to that. Since I got back from Germany a month ago, I have been with at least 2 gorgeous blonds here that I never dreamed of being with before, and now I'm trying hard to resist any sort of commitment with them, because my boss downstairs left his mind and his heart back in the promised land...
So much for a traditional kind of life for me, and live long the FKK ;)
All the best,
Traveling Male
[i]Chivaz wrote:[/i][quote] Take my member out for a second and to change position and the condom is covered in blood. ....Not only the turnoff, but I had gone down on her and have that to worry about also.[/quote]
I know the feeling. The same has happened to me [url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=253789#post253789][red]elsewhere[/red][/url], and unfortunately again, [url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=209383#post209383] [red]somewhere else[/red][/url]. I learned my lesson and asked the local fellows how I should ask the girl if she is in or near her period.
Which brings me to my question for you, our Deutsch speaking "cunning linguists" (pun): Auf Deutsch, how do you [b]tactfully[/b] ask a girl if she is in or near her period?
BTW, the answer in Spanish was given to me [url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=258136#post258136][red]here[/red][/url].
Gentlemen,
I'm debating whether to go back to World soon or have a first visit to Palace.
What would sway me is if anyone has seen my favorites at World lately:
Anna (Belorus)
Lana (Germany)
Diana (Romania)
Olga (Belorus)
Please let me know if you have seen any of the above ladies recently at World.
Thanks in advance,
RtW
PS: Shiatsu, sorry to lose you from the hobby. But your wife knows about you FKK habits and doesn't beat you to a pulp? You're wife is a lot more understanding than I would ever hope for...
Catalyst wrote:
Beffen: You are taking a chance when you bring any illegal substance into a club. They get raided from time to time and when they do all of the lockers get searched and you will likely get caught. Probably you won't get into too much trouble for just a few joints, but you should check this out.
When I went to Atlantis last year, I had around 5 marijuana cigarettes in my pack of Marlboros, because I had just come from Amsterdam and my Dutch buddy had bought some of Holland's finest for me. Good I didn't get caught. Heheheh.
Round the World,
Anna, Diana and Olga are currently "on duty" at FKKW.
I have no information about Lana.
RtW - I expect to be going tomorrow so I'll keep an eyes out - especially for Anna who we know.
RtW, Carnal 1, Euro 100, Novize - thanks guys for the goodbyes. I was surprised to get so much interest! However I may have been unclear- I was only trying to say I don't think I'll be doing any more weekends at World. That doesn't rule out the odd visit now and again. I expect that I'll be joining my wife's interests in partytreffs - it's about time she got what she wanted. So there may be further signs of life from me on the Forum - it's far too good a thing to give up. As Mark Twain said - rumours of my demise are greatly exaggerated
Chivaz,
"Anorexia" is called Magda at FKKW.
Girls at FKKW don´t just have the worst english language skills, they also have the worst german language skills.
But you can nearly always find some nice girls for a conversation (and more) at FKKW.
Girls working during their period most often have enormous pressure to earn money. You will them in every club. I don't want to discuss this issue in detail, but not every woman working in this business does it volunteerly. You can couse them a lot of trouble, when you complain. They don´t get punished by the management, but perhaps by someone else. Just leave the room and refuse to pay. And be careful, if you like to lick pussies.
Most women use little sponges to hold back the blood. Then they don´t like to be licked. That should be a sign to retreat.
Shiatsu,
I knew you wouldn't leave us. And I'my happy that I've helped you and your wife add some spice to those old dice. Enjoy, enjoy - and I expect to get a full report as my commission.
Lanrac, my man - One of Shiatsu's previous posts had me thinking. Why don't we open an FKK for women. Shouldn't be hard to staff it, heh, heh...
This way we'll have somewhere to deposit our wives while we go off to our hobby. Sort of like the women's clubs that they have all over the U.S. to keep them busy while we guys golf or fish. And besides there are alot of travelling businesswoman these days, who'd be prospective customers as well- all those lonely nights on the road away from her man...
What do you say guys? Let's do some focus groups and gauge target market response. We already know that Mrs. Shiatsu is interested....
You know in the U.S. women very often join their guys at strip clubs and get lap dances, etc. Has anyone ever seen a paying woman customer at an FKK? Why not?
Back to my favorite place, FKKW, again. Compared to my previous visit (that was during the weekend), the number of girls was definitely smaller this time on a week night.
I spotted Magda, with whom I had an outstanding session last time. Somehow, this time, I did not get the same kind of chemistry. Maybe I was tired, or maybe she was tired. In any case, the session was fine, but not as memorable as the previous one. Still I think I will repeat her again.
When I was talking with Magda, she introduced me to her fellow Romanian, Georgia. I immediately noticed her name from sexplorer's report. So as soon as I got recharged, I went to her. I would say she was 23 yr old, 5'2", slender built with perfect breasts. She gave me nice massage before starting the session. And, yes, she is orally talented. It was one of more memorable sessions. 8/8/8 (face/body/service). I will repeat.
Let's keep FKKs AMERICAN Femaleskank FREE. American women suck.
From time to time I recognize souples coming to FKK-Clubs. But it doesn´t seem to be much fun for the women. And because of that, for the men neither. For example, entrance is allowed for couples at FKK-World. But the women are seen as a competitor by the regular working girls. So either they like to have some lesbian sex or a threesome with their guy and a girl or they are not treated too good by the girls.
Iseeu,
Regarding regular women in FKK: When I was at the World last June, I noticed a tall Burnett who looked like in her 40s but in good shape, sexy rack, accompanied with her partner, she definitely didn't look like an FKK girl, as she didn't make much eye contact with other guys the way an FKK girl would do. She was setting with her partner or husband the whole night, I met them in the hot tub, and they were making out and I guess she enjoyed other guys watching her getting kissed and touched by her partner. I think at a later time, they got a girl to join them, and went to a room together.
So I guess there are some women that enjoy the FKK scene too, just not as much as we do :) having a g/f or a wife who is into this sport as well would probably be an interesting twist for a relationship, otherwise, think of FKK clubs as your hidden Playboy magazine in the last drawer of your night stand.
Traveling Male
Back to World and Oase and a private from 30 to 1 July. I’ll report as I get time but I wanted to share the high spot first.
On a general point- I think World and Oase are both getting better. I’ll explain why as I do my postings.
RtW – I did not see Anna – which was a great disappointment. Nobody has ever looked at me with such caring eyes as when she helped me in my upset around Andrea last time. I had hoped to thank her again. Maybe she’ll be back
Ok – so what is the interest. On my last day, I finally gave up all hope of a miracle that Andrea (the one from Prague) would arrive “trailing clouds of glory” (Wordsworth “Intimations of Immortality" if I remember the title right). I had spent days feeling echoes of her on the windl (apologies to Pablo Neruda - sorry guys I don't know how the poetry virus got in here)). Anyway, after several uninspired sessions, I finally sat down by Ambra, 21, from Rumania. If anybody has been good for me in recent months it was her.
She has long black (dyed hair) is quite slim, and was wearing black eyeliner all round her eyes (maybe that's what hooks me). She speaks perfect English, and I spent hours with her. Good solid friendlystuff, with thankfully no emotional sparking but a degree of "tendresse" - and no sign of emotional crises on her part.
As for the sex. Well I get the feeling she is not the most sensuous person but it was hard to judge. Because of an indisposition she had, she was not able to have sex!! (and she went back to her hotel after the session with me) but I wasn’t bothered as she was so tender to spend time with. After all there are plenty of girls at World to have sex with but not many (English speakers) I’d choose to spend time with and whose body I could be close to (she has a really nice tight bum!) Do I get thrown out of the Forum for paying and not having sex?
She may not suit everybody – but if you’re looking for someone to engage with as a person she has a lot of advantages, She is extremely sensible and balanced and is intelligent. I won’t go into details since I do not want to run the risk of her knowing she is being talked about on the net. She is only at World for a very short time (August plus a bit) and then she goes back to continue her studies (in her case it is quite obvious that this is genuine). We talked about our respective relationships and hopes and fears
However she may now be away for a while – the Shiatsu effect happened. I have noticed that every time I saw (or was due to see) Andrea on a Sunday, she had a crisis of some sort and subsequently was not seen at FKKW for some time. Well, Ambra is now indisposed (once again I can’t give details) and was away on the Monday I’m told (the reception staff gave me the stonewalling response they give to all enquiries about girls “she is on holiday” – which in this case is not true and is probably not true about Andrea either)
A few general comments about World and Oase.
World seems to be getting steadily better in many ways. There are an increasing number of girls and clients. For example, Sunday is no longer completely dead. The number of girls seems to be slowly increasing –perhaps up to 30 or 35 on the Sunday and around 45+ on the Saturday and Friday. The turnover is large.
The downside is that World has lost one of its advantages for me. It used to have a freshness which is less easy to find now, More of the girls are seasoned workers and sessions are frequently now under the half-hour – this is something which rarely happened at Atlantis. The girls work under strict rules – they cannot go early if they want, and there is a system of fines – if they go in a whirlpool without a client they must pay a fine, if thay stay on the couches downstairs (without a client) they also get a fine. I have even seen girls required to stop going to sleep in sofas upstairs. Sometimes I get the feeling that they are being watched (I asked one girl to carry out a little assignment for me (not sexual) and she had a very nervous reaction - she arranged to meet me later to do it – sorry to be vague but I don’t want to get any girl in trouble) This has led I think to a much less easygoing atmosphere and to the girls being more exploitative than they were. And the guys that run the place seem to be much more in evidence than they used to be – and they don’t exactly have much charm or grace. I do not want to overdo this but it means that World is much less different than it used to be. In World the couch action seems to have almost completely disappeared – which is not the case in Oase
Oase I found much improved. And I loved the outdoor hammocks. Oase seems to have a larger number of English speakers –perhaps due to the presence of a US army base nearby. Oase seemed less pushy than it used to be. The numbers of girls was less than World and the quality less (to my mind) but for the first time it seemed to be the sort of place I could stay comfortably. Girls seemed more relaxed and were able to go to sleep if they felt tired – unlike World. And the food from 17.00 is much much better than World. One girl spent at least 90 minutes talking to a US person – she seemed to be just passing time with him. I had wanted to go with her but I gave up waiting
Some detail now of who was at World. I was not on top form so didn’t get as good info as I would have liked. I’m afraid I was still mentally tying up the loose ends from the Andrea soap opera and I think I was giving off a depressing energy – a good way of making yourself invisible (shame it doesn’t work with mosquitos)
Viagra is still there – excellent for very active sex, Very cheerful, Brazilian black, silicone
Veronika (ice maiden). I noticed that she is spending more time talking to clients. However she speaks NO English and the sex is not overexciting. But she has the best body I’ve ever seen (if you like very slim hard bodies). It’s worth paying the entrance fee just to watch her (but look where you’re going or you’ll walk into a wall like I did!)
Cindy – tall slim blonde from Prague with glasses. She sometimes sounds rather irritated – I think it is just her English. If there is a translation misunderstanding she doesn’t seem to grasp that it is caused by misunderstanding. She is good – and on several ocasions has helped me translate with a non-English speaking girl
Marie – Rumanian living in Germany permanently. I was desperate to pass the time so I approached her. Excellent figure – brown straight hair. Nice enough in the main room but once in a small room the interest turned off like a light. This is the worst sort of deception – either she should keep the pretence up or not do it at all. The dreaded words – lay down and relax – which usually means that you’re not going to do anything but be the subject of a mechanical exercise in seeing how quickly a man can come. Anyway I think we finished the session after 15 minutes.
Stella – blonde from Greek Macedonia. Has a large tatoo on her back with a name within a cross. She was the first one who happily spent the whole half-hour. Good performer, good figure, and willing to chat a bit. She was very nice. She does not come but does kiss. She wasn't there on Sunday
Viola – Hungarian, brown hair with a black belt round her middle. Much larger than I would normally go with and she speaks no English. However she was a “friend” of Andrea and had immediately on my entrance on Friday come up to me and told me, sympathetically, that Andrea was in the Czech Republic and that she would be going to the Czech Republic herself… I think she also told all her friends that I only came to see Andrea. Viola was very nice but the lack of a common language was no help. (She had been helpful on a previous visit – again spotting me and trying to look after me, relaying to Andrea that I was there with the result that Andrea cam especially early the next day)
Julia – the redhead from Rumania is still there but her hair is now a mix of blondish and ochre. She seemed more cheerful than usual – she has her name helpfully tatooed on her back, Good body and ok performer.
Andrea – this is the other one who I did not go with. Communication with her was in French but I did not fancy her. I only mention this so that nobody gets the two mixed up
Jennifer – another of the group who are often around Cindy and Viola. Does not speak English. A short session on the grass – once again not the allotted half-hour. I think if we had spoken a common language things would have been better - she has a soft air. The only spark came when I asked her in German if she spoke french, which of course elicited the obvious hilarity which she shared with everybody within ten metres.
Btw Catalyst - talking of on the grass - you'll remember you were the first person to take Andrea on the grass. Well, in June she said to me how much she had enjoyed it and that she was really upset not to be able to repeat with me because of the foul weather - she had been looking forward to it with me since your introduction. Congratulations - Andrea mentioned you to me twice so you must have made some impact!!
There is a tallish extremely thin blonde (would this be Magda?)with an aquiline nose who I noticed spoke English and spent time talking in the room with clients. It sounds like she could be okfror English speakers - but I felt she had a hard lack of feeling. She announced to the room that she “had found a cowboy” when she found a US guy and she spent some long time talking to him.
And of course, Ambra (see my slightly earlier report)
If anyone sees that Ambra or Andrea (the Czech one) are there I would be pleased to know
Well, just when you thought you were safe and sound... You lived in fear of the dreaded clap, shuddered at the horror of the mysterious Bermuda Triangle and the elusive WMD, but never have you had to face the life-form threatening scourge of the fairest of the fair, the dreaded Shiatsu Effect...LOL
Can the mighty mongerers fend off this threat to their very existence? Will Shiatsu be banned from all FKK's until the curse is removed? How many more lovely E.European women will succumb to its spell before an antidote can be drawn from Shiatsu's fluids or they realize that it's just crimson medal.
LOL
Novize,
Quote: "Girls working during their period most often have enormous pressure to earn money. You will them in every club"
The feeling I got at World compared to other Fkks during my recent visit was that World felt more "organized" than the other clubs. Hard to point out exactly why I felt this way, just a feeling. I had the opposite feeling at Palace, i.e. the girls there felt the most "independent" of the clubs I visited.
Iseeu
Great fun. Way with the words man.
Thanks for the laugh
Chivaz,
You may be right, that World is more "organized" than Palace - it´s an Hells Angels Club.
In addition aou will find a higher percentage of "season workers" at World. They stay for 3 months an then leave for a sertain time. In Palace are much more girls living in Germany for a long time. So the Palace-girls son´t have to earn much money in a limited time and can afford to make a break every 4 weeks. So you´ll find less girls there working during their period. But you´ll find some.
I was at FKK World for the first time two weeks ago. An exellent club. In my opinion better than both Oase and Atlantis. Had great sessions with a 19 y/o Rumanian girl and a 25 something Bulgarian girl. Facilities are excellent. I saw the czech girl in glasses and will try her next time I visit (the coming Tuesday) if she is there.
I usually just take a train closest to the club and then a cab. I'm not sure if I can drive in Germany, everyone drives way too fast and the roads are narrow. Most of all I'm not used to driving in inclement weather, I usually make my annual business trip to Germany in late fall.
Girls feel very comfortable at Palace, the management seems to be very good to them; no senseless rules e.g.
@CBGBConnisur: Just try do take a ride, most Americans I know had great fun going more than 65 mph. Although one of them gave back the Porsche he rented 15 minutes after hitting the autobahn.
Hessen Bub
speaking of the german autobahn, that was my other high when i was in germany last june, after the sex high of course.
first time i hit the autobahn, i thought to myself those germans drive like maniacs! and being lost most of the time, i was a right lane cruiser, well, for the most part... (those germans really don't like it when us americans cruise on their left lanes for some reason! ;) ). once i got to know my way around, i was one of those maniacs doing 170-200 km/hr on the average, but i still was getting passed! my rental company upgraded me to a full size mercedes the second time around, so doing 200 km/hr was a breeze in that well engineered german beast.
after a week of sex and speed (not the chronic one ;) ) i finally came back home to the good old 55 mph u.s. highways, and boy my lincoln felt so cushy and slow! ahhh, gives time to day-dream about all the great memories i left in germany!.
i'm coming back for my sex and speed fix next september
traveling male
Shiatsu says
This is goodbye to World for me. I just thought I'd say goodbye to all the guys I met from the Forum- it was good fun to meet and read the posts. My wife has enjoyed reading the forum but has got fed up being left behind and - note this RtW!- she’s threatened to pulp me if I go back. It's either her or World.
Cordelia (Shiatsu’s wife) says
We are going to try Beverly together and we look forward to meeting some mongers (where did that word come from – it sounds very suspicious – and how does one recognise a monger) there.
If only World had set up an FKK for women then I could have joined in the FKK scene. I might have fancied some of the Hells Angel owners - I understand from my husband that they are very physical (at over 6 foot tall)
what a nice family frame !!
Sexplorer and Beffen1,
I can't believe I was on Vacation and missed both of your series of amazing posts. Excellent work!
Peter
thanks peter- you actually inspired me to continue my long neglected reprting of that trip. to pick up the thread.
you may remember that my last report detailed two firsts- my first time meeting ortos the fkk expert, and my first time at fkk world. despite my being dumbstruck at the sheer size, luxury, and nude variety of the place, i managed to have 5 sessions from say 4 pm until 4 am, not really intensely connecting with any of the girls but more than pleased with the quality of the service- if not the food, great dfk and bbbj by7's, 8’s and 9’s, nubile young girls doing pretty much whatever i wanted position- wise, first slim blonde bulgarian alexandra the xtina facial lookalike, supermodel waif and polish ice princess veronika, carmen the romanian brunette zoftig cowgirl grinding queen, valli the tall black haired romanian schoolgirl tease, and slim, exotic transylvanian blonde magda of the aquiline nose and the reserved, no, non-existant couch action. you will recall that i left at 4:30 and missed the train to main hbf, spending nearly 2 hours watching the sunrise at giessen hbf and arriving back at the excelsior hotel in frankfurt at 8 am.
the breakfast buffet really hit the spot and i gorged, knowing i would sleep all day and meet ortos at 4:30 for the return trip to world. the hotel was blissfully quiet and i rested well, noting out the window that it was a cloudy cool day so we were not really missing the outdoor facilities at world. again, the man was right on time and soon we were in the ortosmobile debating whether to try oase as we passed the exit on the a5. but we had decided on world again. this time i decided not to indulge in mind alteration and i left ortos in the parking lot for attitude adjustment while i hit the now familiar trodden path to the showers and then the curtains leading into the main room. the lineup was fine for a sunday, about 30 girls. most young and gorgeous, at 5:30 pm so the night shift girls had arrived as well. i explored the room, the pool downstairs, sat on some couches and fended off some hand jobs from hopeful girls. then i saw andrea.
andrea is a lithe medium height romanian pixie of a girl with natural c-cups on a slim hard-bodied girlish frame, adorable pouty [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-like face with dark eyes and long dirty blonde brown hair. we hit the couch facing the kino and started chatting and nibbling on each others lips and necks. she is a sweet little girl and i was smitten and after ten minutes of foreplay, i had to have her in a room. she took me to one of the rooms off the kino. andrea treated me to a real, gfe-like dfk marathon, a very oral girl who knows how to intersperse passionate make out with full body and nether region kissing and licking. a great and tireless bbbj practitoner, andrea really wriggles and giggles when you return the oral favors, and is really into maintaining full body contact while changing positions or teasing you with her charms. she rode me like a bucking cowgirl, grabbing my hands behind her in reverse cowgirl and slamming and shimmying her way to a climax as she suspended herself forward from my grip. that hard little ass quivering and flexing as she did her aerobics impaled on peppy- i’ll never forget. anothern highlight was standing doggie as she stood on the bed and squatted as i stood on the floor. we made love for an hour and chilled for maybe ten minutes and i knew i had a new friend. i gave her her 100 in the locker, made another date for tomorrow and went to eat something.
i met up with ortos in the main room and we ate some bean soup and pasta salad which was all there was, later they brought out some skinny wursts and hot dogs. ortos was planning to go back to palace again around 10 pm so i had to decide if i wanted to check it out with him or stay at world all night again. decisions, decisions. so after comparing notes with ortos over dinner, i went on patrol again with the intention of doing one more session before 10 so we could spend his last night in town at palace. on the stairwell, i encountered a cute blonde who flirted with me in just the right way. as we descended the stairs together, i had my hand on her naked butt. we sat on the couch by the cigarette machine for a spell, schmoozing and petting as people walked by, and then i led her into the nearby tanning- bicycle room. it wasn’t long before mikaela from romania was writhing as i fingered her while we made out and she stroked me to full erection. this room was more private so we really got into it for nearly 20 minutes until was time to take it to a room. in retrospect, i should have done her on that couch, because in going to the room, something, some spark was lost and although mikalea was every bit as enthusiastic and hot as she was in the tanning room, i wasn’t. the experience did not rise to the level of andrea from before. still, i kissed, licked and pounded mikaela good for 30 minutes or so and paid her 50 europ for the experience. she is a very cute and sexy girl.
so, it was with some regret that i left world and we headed to palace. but i still had 12 hours or so to do at world on monday, where i would introduce my dutch friend wim to the pleasures of world. would there be enough girls on a monday?? stay tuned. for the report of what happened at palace that sunday night, the reader is reminded that it can be found in the palace thread. i’ll try to report on the third night at palace soon.
beffen 1
Hello Shiatsu and Iseeu from downunder! Just thought I'd drop in and see what been going on over in DE. By the looks of it thngs have been pretty good - Andrea (Prague) is still around eh?
I've shown a few guys this site and always point them to the fun us mongers had in March at the World. I still think that was my best time in DE ever.
Well G'day mate and hope you guys (Carnal\Lanrac, Isseu, Shiatsu et all) can make it over here some time.
-Tarl
Nice to hear from you again Tarl ! I keep reading about that tall Blond Czech Girl from World Fkk( that you spewed all over her glasses) ! Remember that session ? Will be back to FKK land very soon ! ja !
Any "Barbies" Down Under ? Not the BBQ !
Regards,
Carnal1
Tarl
Good to hear from you. Hope you're still having as much fun as ever. Yes - March in World was an event!
good luck
Tarl,
How they hanging? Great to get signs of life from you. At least the sheilas let you come up for air now and then.
I'm still on the transatlantic runs 2-3 times a month, hitting FRA almost every time, so plenty of opportunities to dip my stick. I'm dying to hear how you're making out with those randy sheilas!
Stay happy and in touch.
Tarl,
That was a great trip back in March. Where are you in Ozzieland? I've been meaning to go down there and check out the Board Room, Stilettos, and the Daily Planet. You got any posts in the Australia section?
I'm thinking about heading back to Germany next year in mid-April. My buddy wants to go in July when we can enjoy more outdoor activites with the ladies. Perhaps both is the best solution.
Tarl,
You spewed on the tall Czech librarian's glasses?? Good for you mate. She wised off to me as I lay outside during my disoriented first day- and later Ortos told me she was a topper. On the third day I went into the kino with her where as we were seated she declared coldly that she doesn't kiss. What no snoggin' I said incredulously, to which she snottily replied "I think you should find another girl" and she rose to leave.
Beffen,
loved you latest post; it really reminded me of the time spent with Andrea. She seems to be able to make just about every guy feel special. She is really a pro in the best sense of the word.
Excellent report! Keep up the good work.
euro
I visited FKK-World last sunday for the first time since June.
Some girls have left FKKW since that time. For example:
- Valentina/Lithuania is currently working at Oase.
- Anna/Belorus left the Rhein-Main-Area.
As I was told, girls are rotating nearly in a two-week-rhythm at the moment. Not a good sign for the club, but during the summer holidays it´s hard for the girls to earn enough money. A problem not only at FKKW...
Therefore, well-known Andrea/Czech is back from a long vacation.
Quiet a lot of women and men were ther (for a sunday), but there was an atmosphere like being on a graveyard...
In the last weeks many romanian girls have joined the FKKW, hardly speaking german or english, so it´s not easy to get some conversation going on.
Ventilators have been placed in the rooms. If you don´t use them, it saves you the walk to the sauna... ;-)
btw, they have a built-in timer, so you can check the 30 min-intervals... ;-)
At the moment, I wouldn´t recommend to use the huts in the garden. Too many insects flying around...
I picked up three girls that day, who were not affected by the bad atmosphere:
1. Maja from Poland, ~ 170 cm without shoes, slim, B/C-breasts, right ankle tattoed and long blond-brown coloured hair (that will be black again very soon, as she told me). She is willing to please and her service is unrushed, although a little bit artificial. Anyway, a nice choice for the first action.
2. Jasmin from Romania. Speaks very good german, blondhair (shoulder-length) , ~ 165 cm, slim, A-breasts, no tattoos. She was one of the few girls who tried to create a better atmosphere, that won her my sympathy. Her service is good and above FKKW-average.
3. Andrea from Czech Republic. Just read shiatsus postings. No further information necessary. One of FKKWs absolute highlights. A full-pro in it´s best meaning.
At September 11th there is a big party planned at World (organized by the german Roemerforum). You have to pay 75 € entrance fee that day, but for the 10 € extra you will get a great buffet and hopefully as many good show-acts as last year. And, of course, lots of women... :-)
A stupid question to FKK-World regulars (or is it just me who am stupid :() : The facilities in the common areas are impressive, but I've found the rooms to be quite basic (just curtain, no door) and very dark (at least the ones I've been to, in particular the ones next to the movie room). I've asked the girls to increase lighting, but they all said it's not possible. Is this true or am I just too dumb to find the switch ?
In comparison, I've found the rooms at Oase and Palace much better, with real doors and mirrors, etc... and adequate lighting. :)
grand jim,
this is not a stupid question at all. the curtains are not only on the entrances to the rooms next to the kino, but also on the rooms downstairs.
i was always annoyed that atlantis had only curtains at the doors. and then fkkw did the same. they saw that this was a huge problem right away: during their first week promotion of free entrance fee they had a ton of young guys who came in just looking. when you took a girl to a room, many of them would peek through the curtain. for some of the paying customers this was a real problem and a turnoff.
there are, however, a few rooms in fkkw with doors. these are vip rooms, located upstairs, on the hallway next to the dining room and the wintergarten. if lack of doors bothers you, inquire about those.
euro
You can also find rooms with doors downstairs, in the hallway to the pool.
But you are right, for the "World's most exclusiv FKK-Club" the rooms are very basic.
Hessen Bub
Thanks guys for the fast feedback!!! :) What about the lighting? Any better in the VIP rooms? It was so dark in the rooms next to the kino I almost didn't see the girl. :(
I'm sure there must be a switch somewhere, they just can't clean these rooms in the dark, can they ? :D
Grand Jim,
I never looked for the light switches. However, the kino rooms are the worst in terms of lighting. Downstairs is better.
If you really want a lot of light, try the small outdoor garden sheds. You can open the shutter on the windows and let the daylight in. They have doors, too, by the way.
euro
there is a switch cause i have came in and had the girl turn down the light my advice might be to try to find the switch it was near the door in the room down stairs near the pool or between to pool an the stairs. and turn it up if she complains then tell her you want the lights on or no go. anyway just a though
Some rooms at World have a fader switch and some don't and many are really too dark for eye candy factor. My Andrea and some others took me to such rooms and I told them I must see how beautiful they are and to find another brighter room and every girl found us another one with better light- Andrea, Alexandra, Magda, etc.
I did not notice- are the World cabins lighted for night time trysts- I know the ones at PHG are- it is very cosy tiptoeing through the snow with an almost naked Sammi in the winter.
Beffen 1
World on Wednesday night.
I arrived about 6pm. Thought about gathering two other guys before the entrance to get the 3 for 2 discount (valid Monday to Wednesday). But there were not too many people arriving, so gave up on this, paid my 65e and entered.
I had two sessions there, both very good indeed. One with Alice from Romania, the other with Lorna from Slovakia.
I think I prefer Oase and Palace over World. Something feels not quite right about the atmosphere, maybe it's competition for business, a little bit of tension. Dunno. Having said that I have only ever been during August and had 4 great sessions out of 4, so I shouldn't complain too much! But I did spend a lot of time talking to the girls to be sure of a good experience. There are some girls there who are too "pro" for my liking, and a lot of others whose look I'm not that interested in, but I'm quite particular on these things. Lots of Eastern European girls, only one plump mature Asian who rated about a 5.
I was interested to read the report afterwards that Czech Andrea was there on Sunday. I "interviewed" lots of different girls and didn't meet her so most likely she was not there on Wednesday.
Thanks for your informative report, Cachorro! Just curious if you could possibly clarify one point at the end of your post:
"I was interested to read the report afterwards that Czech Andrea was there on Sunday. I "interviewed" lots of different girls and didn't meet her so most likely she was not there on Wednesday."
Which report recently has indicated that Czech Andrea is back at World? There are fresh reports by Beffen1 and others about an Andrea from Romania, but this is clearly a different girl from the dark-haired hot one from Prague.
Are you sure you are referring to Andrea from Prague?
Thanks for clearing this up.
Orthos,
I met her last sunday at World and I posted this in August 17th. Just scroll down.
Believe me, I know her quit well. It was Andrea from Czech Republic.
Hi Ortos, I was going on the information in Novize's report, which is about 8 down from mine. I think that early this week there was a bit of delay in Regular Members' postings showing up. I only saw it after my Wednesday excursion.
We need some positive ID here ! Any volunteers for the Andrea watch at World ? Beffen1 should be the next to validate the authenticity of the two Andreas.
Cachorro,
Yes, you're right: I did miss Novize's report down below. Must have not shown up the date of posting. According to that, it does seem she is back from vacation, assuming we are talking about the same dark-haired girl from Czech...good news indeed.
Andrea is back since August 11th. I hope to visit World tomorrow. I will keep you informed.
Visited World again on sunday. The overall atmosphere was better than last week.
I went with four girls that day.
Number one was Andrea from Czech Republic:
name: Andrea
hair: black, long, curly
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slim, C
origin: czech
born: 1982
tattoos/piercings: pierced bellybutton
service: full pro. range from GFE to hardcore
other: charming, intelligent, good conversation
Looks like Andrea, walks like andre, talks like Andrea and makes love like Andrea. To all who couldn´t believe me: it´s her. I´m absolutely sure... ;-)
Number two was Veronica from Poland
name: Veronica
hair: blond, long, curly
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: very slim, A/B-breast
origin: polish
born: ~ 1982
I found her service improved since my last date with her. She liked to flirt and delivered a good and unrushed service. Very nice sex. Perhaps she needs some time to get "warm" with a customer.
Number three was Elisa from Romania:
name: Elisa
hair: long, blond
size: ~ 1,80 m
figure: slim, natural C-breast
origin: romanian
born: ~ 1982
tattoos/piercings: pierced bellybutton
a co-worker of the romanian Andrea. They often sit together. She doesn´t like kissing, but the "look and feel" ist great. Anyway, she delivers sex, not a Girlfriend experience.
Number four was Leona from Slovakia:
name: Leona
hair: blond, long
size: ~ 1,67 m
figure: slim, B-breast
origin: slovakian
born: ~ 1980
tattoos/piercings:
service: full pro. range from GFE to hardcore
other: charming, intelligent, good conversation
She had been working at ATL before it´s closing, using the name "Diara" or "Daria" there. She is willing - and able! - to please.
Many girls are proposed to come back from vacation during the next weeks. I´ll have a look at this.
Andrea was at World on Thursday 19th and Sunday 22nd of August. 100%. I saw and booked her.
Hessen Bub
I went to World this week end. After reading your posts about Andrea I wanted to meet her really bad.
Saturday night: I did not want to ask the girls if they knew a certain Andrea so I walked around talking to girls (mostly with long dark hair) but no Andrea.
I had a great session with Sharon: black girl from Cuba (former Atlantis girl, friend of Mia). Best blowjob ever!
Then a second session with Suzy: beautifull Romanian girl with incredible tits!
It was getting late (2.30am) so I decided to leave but a nice girl came to me and asked me if I wanted some company. I was a little bit tired so I said no but we talked a little bit and while talking she told me she came from Czech Republic and that her name was Andrea!
MIRACLE! I did not find her but she found me!
Not tired anymore: 3rd session with Andrea: Waouh! Incredible blowjob with the piercing on her tongue and great sex with the tightest pussy I ever fucked.
I went to bed satisfied but I came back at 1pm on sunday to see Andrea again. She arrived at 4 pm but I was not quick enough : a guy grabed her as soon as she arrived and stayed with her almost 1 and a half hour. Maybe somebody from the forum, why not ?
So I took another session with black panther Sharon for a BBBJ with CIM in the kino room.
What a week end ! I'm definitely going back next week end for Andrea, Sharon. It's fucking paradise outthere!
[blue]Hi,
This is just a suggestion, so please don't take it the wrong way.
I appreciate the details in your report, but I know from experience that a lot of people find it easier to read a report if the paragraphs are separated by a single blank line.
I know how this happens: You're banging away at the keyboard, putting your thoughts into the report as fast as you can write them. However, if you could hit the return key TWICE at the end of each paragraph, your report would be much easier to read, which would certainly be appreciated by your fellow Forum Members.
Thanks,
[i]Jackson[/i][/blue]
Dadou,
You guessed right: The guy grabbing Andrea for 90 minutes was a Forum Member - it was me. I´m sorry for any inconvenience I caused. Maybe we´ll have to arrange our datebooks in the future. ;-)
Dadou,
So where is Mia working? I had an amazing session with her in Atlantis about a year ago and I'm hoping to see her again when I go to Germany next year. Hopefully, she hasn't retired yet.
Hessenbub and Dadu....
Thanks for the update on Andrea. Looks like I shall be returning much faster than originally planned so the timing is purfect !
Ja,
Carnal1
Wry Cooter,
Mia started to work at Oase after the closing of ATL.
But noone, even not Mia herself, will be able to tell you if and where she will be working next year.
Perhaps it´s a good idea to repeat your question two or three weeks before you travel to Germany again.
In one of my latest postings I informed you aboet a party of the german Römerforum happening at world on Sept. 11th.
This party has been canceled.
Fellow mongerers,
Well, I'm ready for my 2nd trip to the FKK clubs starting this Friday, I've packed my bags, shaved my balls, and stocked up on breath fresheners and mouth wash
For the last 2 weeks or so, I've abstained from all forms of sexual activity ("form" to be more accurate ;) , and let me tell you, it is hard, almost impossible for a guy with a weakness like mine to hold off this long ;) boy, right now the slightest thought can trigger a "hard to get rid of" hard-on! ;) even the ugly fat K-mart mamas are starting to look sexy!! Urrr... my mind is going crazy ;) but it is all going to be worth the smell (and taste) of the scents of freedom outside the horrible cocktease prison in the U.S.
Btw, has any one seen Olga at the World lately? the tall redhead girl from Belarusian? Is she still working? I'm thinking her beautiful face and mouth is a good candidate to deliver my first load in.... oops... better stop this thought! ;)
I will post my reports for you guys soon as I come back, and you'll bet it will be juicy.
Another visit at World yesterday:
They installed a new coffee-machine and co they now meet the Club-Standard in the Rhein-Main-Area in this issue.
Yesterday the reopened the bar in the lower floor. It´s noe a "Champangne-Bar" and you cen get the same non.alcoholic drinks as at the upper bar, plus a small variety of alcoholic and non-alcoholic cocktails (5,- € per glass) - and of course - champagne.
There were quit a lot of people yesterday and so the atmosphere was much better than during my last visits (the summer vacation season is going to it´s end).
I had closer encounters (of the sicxth kind) with three girls:
name: Julia
hair: atificially blond, shoulder-length
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slim, B-breast
origin: german
born: 1978
Julia hadn´t been at FKKW for five weeks, so we had to celebrate our reunion! WE wnt to one of the little huts in the garden and had a great time in the front of it - we picked out one of the few moments, when the sun was shining and it would have been a shame if we had gone into the dark hut. Julia is a very nice person and being with her is always a wonderful GFE.
name: Olivia
hair: blond, shoulder-length
size: ~ 1,60 m
figure: very slim, B-breast
origin: polish
born: ~1981
Although she claims to be at FKKW for three months now, I never recognized her until yesterday. At the first sight, she seemed to be very bored, sitting on the edge of one of the couches. I observed her for a little while and recognized that she never spent more than twenty minutes in the room. Again a bad sign - I took it as a challenge! After a very short small-talk she insisted on looking for a room - little Novize agreed and I didn´t object. Her BBBJ was very soft, wet and felt simply great. Very nice french kisses also, not really deep, but very tender. We ended up doggy-style, which gave me a good look at her stunning figure. We were in the room 30 minutes - 50,- €. Completely unrushed service. I was surprised positively and can give a clear recommendation for that girl. Don´t let discourage you by her bored behaviour when she is sitting in the upper hall. Her service is solid club-standard - a little bit above that - and she looks great. When being with a girl in a room for the first time, I don´t expect a real GFE. That needs some time and a little bit of knowledge about each other´s wishes. But I will surely try to develop this "relationship".
name: Andrea
hair: black, long, curly
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slim, B/C-breast
origin: czech
born: 1982
Again and again! That´s more than simply sex and erotic. Unuseful to describe. Discover it!
I plan to have my first trip to Frankfurt in October and am not familiar with the train systems, but I am staying close by the hauptbanhof in Frankfurt to base my operations. What is the best route by train, then (I assume taxi or walk) to get to FKK World?
Thanks!
World Revisited,
Had a tough two weeks at work so decided that I would check out World again Friday night since I had not been there since my birthday in May.
Got there around 6:45 and my count was about 30 girls to maybe 45 guys. Place seemed to have a real different vibe to it than my first visit. Don't know how to pinpoint it but it just seemed like all the girls were mad or something. Would smile at a girl and she would just continue to walk past me. Tried to strike up a couple of conversations and after "Where you from" nothing else transpired.
The facilities are still fine and with finally a nice warm evening was able to see the grounds. They were having a barbecue out past the outdoor pool and when it got dark moved food inside. (Salads, noodles and goulash).
Were a bunch of American servicemen there and they were buying beer and bottles of champagne like water and had 4 or 5 of the Romanian girls all night. (hey, got to spend that tax free combat pay).
Finally was approached by a Venezuelan girl from Spain who at first wanted to go to the Kino. I turned her down because I have found that a lot of the girls that do the Kino want to do it on the couch and make it a real quick session. If I am going to pay 50 Euros I want a full half hour, unless I decide to cut it short. Can't remember the girls name but she came up to me again a few minutes later and asked if I wanted to go to a private room. I guess she figured out that I knew the Kino score. She was a little older but I had not had a Latino in several years so decided to take her.
We did go into the Kino but she showed me the private rooms that are off to the right of the Kino. Don't know if they were there in May but don't think so since I remember during that visit it was a pain to have to go all the way downstairs to find a room.
Fairly good session and she was GF, with BBBJ, and DFK. Nice set of jugs and liked them to be sucked on. Interestingly enough she really shined when she put my condom on and the proceeded to blow me and was much more forceful, thus resulting in a better hard on for me. Did the deed in multiple positions. A little short of half hour and she spoiled it by asking for a tip. Her words " Most Americans give a tip". My answer, "I only carry fifty Euro bills and you were not that good for a 50 Euro tip". First time I have ever been asked to tip at any FKK club.
Continued to walk around and smile at the girls but none ever reciprocated. Finally saw Romona, an Italian, sitting on the dancing stage in the middle of the room. Got into a conversation with her and she seemed nice. Went to a room adjacent to the Kino again and a fairly good session followed. DFK and very nice DATY during which she seemed to come. Don't really think she was faking it since after the orgasm she was involuntarily shaking which is pretty hard to fake. Gave me a good BBBJ and really had a nice tight pussy. She wanted it doggy style and I enjoyed pounding into her to orgasm. Friendly but a little rushed. In fact both sessions were sort of rushed and I can't understand why since the girls didn't seem to be that interested in making contacts and getting more sessions?
It wasn't just me since I saw a lot a guys approach girls and talk for a few seconds and move on. I just think it was the full moon !
Once again the staff was excellent cleaning up things and the two bar maids were much friendlier than last time but like has been reported on this forum so often. FKK clubs can be completely different on any given night. My firs visit to World was awsome, my first visit to Oase was a bust, my second visit to Oase was great, my third visit to Oase was another bust, now my second visit to World was so so.
Bottom line you just have to go and take your chances that it will be a good night.
LSM
Spent the afternoon of the 28th at world after trying to find the damn place for 2 hours.
Very nice facilities and plenty of girls there to pick from. I spent the 1st hour just watching and noted a few I was interestedin.
Victoria from poland was first. Blond blue and very pretty, especialy when she smiles responded to my looks and smiles and joined me on the couch. We warmed up for a bit and headed downstairs to a room. Her service was OK but a bit rushed but I was just warming up anyway.
Back to the couch to recover and I was sitting adjacent to a big brunette with her hair in a pony tail. Kinda looked like Katerina Witt the skater. Big sweater puppies and a full (not fat) body that really was awesome when she stood. Something about her aloofness told me to be wary and we never hooked up. She sat there not 2 feet away for 1/2 hour and never turned to smile, say hello or nothing. I figured if she was this cool it might not improve. I passed but am still wondering.
Caught the ey of a thin Blond at the bar from across the room but lost contact due the crowd. Then I spied this gorgeous blond sitting on the couch next to a guy. She was with out a doubt the pick of the litter Slim but perfect, shoulder length sandy blond hair, my kinda girl but this guy wouldn't leave and wouldn't hire her so she was just unavailable. Very nice---oh well
Found the blond again and we hooked up. Alex from Bulgaria. Very pretty 21. her service was very good and I had fun.
Now tired, I returned to the couch hoping for the beauty but no luck. I had seen this other dark haired beauty severl times. She stood out with her long black pony tail and heavy made up eyes. looked like a gypsy queen and seemed to have a lot of life. She also seemed young but pocessed a superb body. I hesitated becaue she seemed pretty cocky and who needs an "I doing you a favor session"
Not finding the blond beauty I rested when the seat next to me was taken by the gypsy who introduced herself as Anni from Bulgaria. Under the make was a very pretty girl. We talked and she leaned over and gave me the best kiss I've had in many moons. This led to us going downstairs but alas no rooms. We sat on a couch at the bottom of the stairs waiting for one to open up. She passed the time by giving me a wonderful DT BJ while fondeling the twins. People passing by, including the blond beauty and on she went. Finally a room opened and we spent the next 1/2 hour in very wild sex.She was the best no doubt.
By now I had to leave but I still wonder about the dark haired goddess and the blond beauty. Great day!
I found this information on a hotel that is only a dozen blocks away from FKK Paradise Frankfurt which is located on Konigsberger Strasse. , which is just NW of Falk Strasse, where FKK Frankfurt is located. Another way to look at it would be to say that Hotel Falk is just next to the 'Kirchplatz' station on the "U-6" U-Bahn line, while FKK Frankfurt is just next to the 'Industrie Bahnhof' station on the same line. Does this make sense to those of you that are familiar with the Frankfurt area?
Anyway, having said that, I wonder if this little diddy of Hotel Falk I found in a search is relevant to the discussion...?
Hotel Falk
"In the Bockenheim district, and a bit out of the centre, but near to the good neighbourhood scene of bars, cafes and ethnic shops. Rooms are comfortable and moderately priced, and include discounted admission to a nearby health club."
The detailed information for Hotel Falk is here:
http://www.hotel-falk.de/hotelfalk/frameset_gast.htm
Could it be that the guests at Hotel Falk get a discount at FKK Frankfurt? After all, "Health Club" is often a euphemism for these FKKs in Germany. Hmmmmm, one has to wonder. Heheh.
Bruce
As someone who for various reasons cannot hire out a car, I was just wondering if it is feasible to get to FKK World by public transport and taxis. I recall once going to Oase by taxi and it was a pretty hefty cost, and FKK World seems even further away. I am not that keen to spend 100Euro each way on taxis !
If anyone has any suggestions (from any city nearby), I'd really appreciate it.
NeilSydney,
I have visited FFKW without a rental car several times. I took a train from Frankfurt to Giessen. Then took a taxi from the Giessen station to FFKW. The cab ride was about 20 euro, as I recall.
NeilSydney and Kyle Fields
As they say RTFF.
shiatsu gives the following information on page 18 or so. ( 10-20-03 08:23)
By train – you can get details from bahn.de (there is an English version) – enter “pohlheim” it’s about an hour (fast train) to Giessen, from where you could get a taxi, about 5miles/8 kilometers, or get a connecting train to Garbenteich.
If I could get that information in three pages of skimming I am sure there is more, so just do your research.
LSM
you can always try to car pool with other members
Or you can use the public transport. From Frankfurt Main Station it´s a 90-minute-ride with train and bus. The arrival station is "Pohlheim-Garbenteich". You can go the last km by taxi ( * 10 €/ride), or aou ask the FKK-World, if they can pick you up. Normally that´s no problem. For public transport, look at www.bahn.de -> Int. Guests for english pages.
FKK-World phone number is: 06404/659388
I plan on visiting again sometime in the next three weeks and would be interested if others plan to carpool.
RtW
NeilSydney,
FKK World is much further from Frankfurt than FKK Oase. Taking a taxi from Frankfurt to FKK World is not reasonable unless you have unlimited finances.
If you can't rent a car for whatever reason, think seriously about taking the train to Giessen and staying in a hotel in Giessen. That will reduce your taxi fare significantly and also give you much more flexible hours for visiting FKK World since you will no longer be dependent on the train schedule.
NeilSydney,
if you scroll back to May/June in this Section, you will see clear instructions on how to get by public bus to World from Giessen train station. It takes about 20 minutes and it costs about 1 Euro.
So train to Giessen hauptbahnhof, then bus number 10 (I think) and get off at the sports arena. All this you can find on the db.de website of the German railways. I have done it twice with no problems whatsoever.
Don't you hate it when someone asks a question that's been answered already? Yeah, I do.
Sorry guys, guilty as charged. I didn't research this all that well. My apologies.
Nevertheless, thanks all for the information. Much appreciated.
I was at the World FKK on Sat Sept 4 at 2:00 in the afternoon. It took me about 2 hours to find the place. I drove from Karben to Polhiem Giesentech on the A5 in the direction of Bad Neuhiem. The insturctions I had called for exit 10. However, due construction I had to guess where this exit was. Once I got to Polhiem I started seeing the FKK advertisements and knew I was in the vicinity. After that it was just a matter of going through the town to the "Ziel" and finding the enterance.
The place itself has 3 enterances. This alone should give you an idea how big it is. I would say it is at least an acre or more in space. The enterance was a very classy, no lockdown door, no ringing the buzzer type. Just walk up to the counter and pay the 65.00 and you are off. Compared to the others, this place has at least two times the size of changing rooms. Once inside I was immediately struck by the huge cathederal type roof with a red tarp like covering. The center room had this red aura filtering through, which I felt was quite wickedly appropriate. In the center of the room is a dance stage/pole. The backyard has a very nice pool with about 20 beach chairs around and soothing trance music playing.
At 2:00 I counted 27 men and 7 women. Needless to say I was getting concerned. The women I saw all were members of SAG, with breasts that were drooping dowin to there. I happen to be a breast man and was getting pretty desparate to find one that would be to my liking. So I waited, sat on the nice sofa watching four separate pornos running on the multitudes of LCD TV getting more desperate and asked if more women would be coming to anyone that could speak english. I got a few grunts saying they would be. Around 5pm more came alright, but they were more of the same, a lot more 5's and 6's. In all I saw one 8 in the whole place and she was on huge waiting list, I mean old bald fat guys were litereally grabbing her by the arms and yanking her away.
After about the sixth guy, I starting to get this tarnished goods feeling. "This is Sat night and I am at World FKK, so where the hell are all the hot chicks" I said to myself. I decided to get a bit of the wiener bbq and then reflect on the situation. At about 7:00 the situation was not getting better as a lot more men had checked in and the women had'nt. So I decided to cut my loses and take my $50 and spend it on the enterance fee at OASE.
On the way out the 8 approached me in the changing room.and told me how disappointed she was that I was leaving. I did not have the heart to tell her how I really felt.
Hell's Angels may have the facility, but they do not seem to have the girls.
ABC,
Funny, because I thought I was at FKK-World too that day. When I entered World at the one entrance I know (where are the other two?) at 16:30 I recognized:
- Andrea/Czech
- Andrea/Romania
- Betty/Cuba
- Christina/Poland
- Ina/Romania
- Jasmin/Romania
- Julia/Germany
- Magda/Romania
- Miracle/Jamaica
- Monika/Germany
- Olivia/Poland
- Ramona/Romania
- Sharon/Cuba
- Yvette/Romania
And at least two dozen other girls I don´t know by name.
Of course, saturday is one of the two busy days at FKK-World (the other one is friday. I try to avoid a visit at these days, if possible), so the girls are busy...
Over the day/evening, I counted 60 women, all of them willing to serve. But I celebrated a birthday-party there with members of my German home-forum, I didn´t too much action. But the opportunity had always been there.
abc,
As many of us who have experienced multi-visits to World over the past year will tell you: This place can be considered one of the the Top Clubs in Deutschland. Aber/However: When you ask: "This is Sat night and I am at World FKK, so where the hell are all the hot chicks", you should augment and, in the interest of accuracy, write "This is a Sat night in late Summer, when many girls are on vacation or the girl line-up is generally in a weak, vulnerable position etc.,..."
I share your pain at going to World and getting hit with a bad night. Every club has them. I personally have never favoured Sat nights at World (or at Atlantis, for that matter, towards the end of that club's reign...). But certainly you would have a very different impression of the girl situation if you were to visit in, say Oct or Nov, or March-June. I don't think I am the only one on this board who will verify that the place can really rock in terms of girls at other times of the year. I just think your timing was bad...
I was there as recently as early July, and I found many many 8s, indeed a few 9s.
Wait a few weeks and try it again, maybe?
BTW: How was Oase? Was it significantly better than World in terms of girls and guest/girl ratio?
There are three parking lots at World, but they all lead to the same entrance.
abc did not mention that he went downstairs. Maybe there were manymore girls downstairs. Most of the girls that Novice mentions were there are of very high quality. So I got to believe that it was not as dead as abc makes it appear.
Oh well, everybody has their own criteria. And, of course, everybody has their own motivation for posting ...
cheers
euro
ABC,
As the other posters have mentioned the day, the hour and the season can make a world (no pun intended) of difference. See my report of Friday night the 3rd for example. Just twenty four hours before your visit and you can see what I experienced.
Of the girls that Novize mentions half were not there on the night I was there. If Miracle from Jamaica had been there believe me I would have known since she is one of my favorites.
In addition one of the disadvantages of World is that it is sometimes TOO big and you can actually miss seeing some of the girls because they are either occupied with another client or are in another part of the establishment. You go downstairs and they go upstairs via the outside pool and you can miss them since you went down via the inside stairs.
You just have to play the odds. And the odds sure are a lot better than dating.
Langsuan Man
Hello Everybody,
God I hope they have better nights, because I would hate to write this place off. Its legendary aura must have been earned and I am hoping my unlucky day is not typical. Unfortunately, summer is the only time I can travel as with a lot of fellow mongers. But I was there for 5 hours with nothing but 6's and maybe an occasional 7. From what I saw a lot of guys seemed to be waiting as most of the girls were not really working. So I figured, come 6 the second shift must be the one to watch. However, that did not really seem to be the case. Memories of Oase, the night before had set precedence, which was definitely not being met or even coming close. See my posting for OASE the night before. This is not to say that Oase does not have off nights. But I was so looking forward to the World after the Atlantis depravation that I had set the entire vacation day aside for it. After leaving World, I got to Oase about 10:00 and I can honestly say that the number of 7’s and 8’s were remarkably higher. The variety was also an added bonus. At the World, I must have missed the girls mentioned by Novize. It is true I did not go downstairs, as I did not really see any signs pointing toward the basement. However, what would be the point of all these girls confining themselves to downstairs? I mean would it not have been better to solicit upstairs or even by the pool where most of the people were?
Please understand I do not wish to endorse any particular club and that keeping with the tradition of this board I am only writing about my personal experience in as realistic a viewpoint as possible.. I believe anything other then that would not be of any use to the board. I also visited PHG and Palace, both of which were phenomenal. Once I get a moment I will write my report on those as well.
I have to agree with abc2. The last three or four times that I have been here; there just wasn’t any girls that I felt like spending time with. It’s the only club that I have this huge anticipation on entering, to only be disappointed once I see the girls that are there. The place is nice and relaxing but over this whole summer, for me, there were no girls to my caliber. I often enter the club around 4pm and stay until 10pm without going with one girl.
I’ve actually decided that I will never visit this club again. I don’t agree with their policies on the girls. How management treats their girls is wrong and in my opinion, illegal. The girls get fined for the most ridiculous things.
One girl, that I know very well, came up to me and said that she was disappointed that she had to pay a 50-euro fine to the front desk. I guess one of those “Brainless Hells Angel” bouncers was watching her on one of the surveillance cameras and noticed that she was wearing a belt around her waist.
Yep, she had to pay 50 euros to the desk just because of her belt. If she didn’t pay the fine, they would not allow her to come back to the club. These girls are not supposed to be treated like employees of the club. They are supposed to be guests just like us.
The girls also get fined if they are caught relaxing downstairs alone. Now this is wrong on so many levels. If the girl wants to sit downstairs by herself then that should be her right. What difference does this make? If she wants to be alone then she isn’t going to make any money. That should be her right and no “Brainless Hells Angel” bouncer should force her to do otherwise.
I can go on and on about all this but it angers me so much. This club is on my never to visit again list. This ranting is only my opinion of the situation there. If you have never visited World before, you need to still go. The place is amazing. It’s just the underlying features that I highly disapprove.
On a side note: I’ve been keeping in contact with a former A-List Atlantis girl. She will never work at World. She was warned by other girls, (these girls have no other option but to work at World), of the polices at World. Her plan: Work somewhere else. This gets me to wondering. If this one girl is working somewhere else, then why are all the other Top Girls, from Atlantis, working somewhere else also? How many former A-List/B-List Atlantis girls have you seen there, lately? I’ve seen zero on all my visits this summer. If this club is suppose to be the next number one then where did the girls go?
Don’t take all my ranting for fact. I could be wrong. They may have changed them recently and I’m not trying to work to close the club. I want it to stay open.
Fox
I can only say good things about world. I have had some maybe one in 10 below par punts. (and a FKK set a high bar even a bad time here is like a dream in a lot of places ) But to explane the bad report below i have to say that maybe world is a bit spread out i am not sure if it is bigger but because of the muliti levels and different area it is hard to really see all the girls. I have been there and all night i saw girls that i had missed before. I think there is no way there where only 7 girls there the rest could be busy i agree that friday saturday are not the best days to go. I like it when it is a little slow then you have a good chance to spend some extra time with the girls and have some real nice times. I would not give up on world like they said everyone has a bad day.
[quote]... I think there is no way there where only 7 girls there....[/qoute]I agree. And I asked some fellow mongers who had been there the whole day from noon. Not a perfect guy/girl-ratio in the morning, but about 15 girls in the morning, and lots of girls started to work between 15:00 and 18:00.
Most Ex-Atlantis girls are working at Palace or Oase, a handfull at World, some in Flamingo Island or other clubs. Viagra/Sara and Betty from Cuba (which I would consider A-List-girls, but I do not like this classification) are working at World.
Some girls do not like World, others do not like Oase or Palace. Some do not get along with the other girls or the management, some do not like the interior - don't give to much on the gossip.
Hessen Bub
I think the thing that concerned me the most was the quality of the girls there seem to be quiet a bit below the other smaller clubs. I would have been even willing to pay more if the girls had met the expectations. I still don't get how so many women could have such sagging breasts and expect to attract attention. How could this be an attractive feature? Everywhere I turned I saw the same phenomenon. Maybe the guys in Polhiem prefer this feature. But, speaking for the guys from Canada, I have to lean toward a bit more hard body for us to plunk our money down. Given the amount of time I had on my hands I counted the ratios a couple of times so it is fair to assume it is quite accurate. What I cannot understand is how the management can allow such a drastic situation to manifest itself and let it continue through the evening. What kind of impression are they trying to put on Fkk World virgins? A couple of weeks ago I was at the Palace and found that most of the Atlantis girls were there. What I find interesting is that I rarely ever saw any of the World type girls at the other clubs. The ones that were present at the other places were finding themselves quite unemployed. Yet here it seemed that is all that was available. After leaving the World I had seriously contemplated going to Palace again. But my hotel was in Karben, the hour getting late and this was my final night before heading back to the draconian N. America. And I had become quite dismayed; not mention starved by the days events.So you can understand desperation and my motivation to go to OASE, a mere 15-minute drive from my hotel.
It is my sincerest hope that the management is reading this and that changes in policy will allow for the highly anticipated talent. Come on World step up to the challenge, the stage is all yours. Do it before you become part of history, as I cannot hold my breath forever.
Something a little off topic.
On the home page there is mention of a FKK World II opening soon. The countdown would point to November 1st.
There is no concrete info on where it is on the German boards, but there is a rumor about Bad Salzufflen, wherever the hell that might be.
Peter
Bad Salzufflen is near Bielefeld. For those guys, who don´t know Bielefeld - don´t worry, you didn´t miss anything.
But perhaps you know Hannover and Dortmund. Bad Salzufflen is about in the middle of these two cities.
btw, the girl that said, the new club would be located near Bad Salzufflen is not one of those girls who I believe every word. OK, maybe she´s right this time.
I´m not really sure, if this Club will be a real FKK-World II or not. If you want more information, you have to mail to a mail-adress of erosplanet.de. So it will be an Angel´s Club. But that doesn´t necessarily mean, that both clubs belong together.
I´ll be at World I next week and hope to come along with more information after my visit.
ABC,
At Palace or Oase you will surely find more Hard-Bodies than at World. But most of these Hard-Bodies are siliconized. It´s not a matter of good or bad, it´s just a matter of personal taste. I prefer the "natural" women, as many other guys in Germany. I like the look of siliconized breasts, but not the feel.
And, if you take a look at the Palace- and Oase-girls, you will recognize, that there are a lot of average-type girls either.
And I saw lots of the Palace- and Oase-beauties at daylight, not in the coaxing light of Palace or Oase. And I think, World shouldn´t work at the girls, they should work at the illumination. That would be half way to stand the competition.
I didn´t want to critizise your taste. I just wanted to correct the number of girls. BTW, I saw all these girls between 16:30 and 16:45 upstairs in the big hall. No need to walk around.
It´s also a matter of expectations and personal mood. I´ve been at World, Oase and Palace when there were 50+ girls willing to serve, and I went out without having screwed even one. And I´ve been at these Clubs, saw the same girls and f...ed my brains out.
It´s your good right to post your opinion and I wouldn´t want to miss your impressions. I only wished, you had counted more accurately.
Quantity is countable. Quality is - in this sector - always matter of taste and opinion.
Hi Peter,
Bad Salzufflen is close to Bielefeld, midway beetween Dortmund and Hannover. I guess it is a little closer to Hannover than Dortmund (I would guess 45 min drive from Hannover).
Chivaz
The GREAT, The GOOD, The HORRIBLE
Decided to visit Sauna World (AKA: FKK Gorgeshausen Fantasyland) on Friday night the 10th. Got on A66 at around 7 P.M and almost immediately ran into a Stau even before I got anywhere near A3. Since I was trying to get there for the 30 Euro Happy Hour Entrance decided with the traffic I wasn't going to make it so got off the Autobahn and came back to catch A5.
Got to OASE at around 8 P.M but found out that my favorite wasn't working so decided to try FKK World despite my mediocre experience the previous Friday night.
THE GREAT
Pulled into Worlds parking lot at a 9 PM and was showered and at the bar by 9:15. Am standing there with my fist mineral water and a girl approaches me and introduces herself as Andrea. I ask of the Czech Republic? She says yes and I realize that I am in the company of THE Andrea. Of course I have to wait at least a half hour for the Viagra to kick in so I am filled with self doubt. Tell her that I want to book her but that I just got here and am mentally questioning myself should I just book her for an hour and not take a chance on losing her. Well I tell her that I need at least a half hour and then if I can find her I will book her then. She is sweet about it and says she understands.
I then go downstairs to the whirlpool where I am of course questioning whether or not I blew it for the night. While in the whirlpool a constant stream of girls walks by and unlike last week all of them are smiling back at me. Can tell that they are actively seeking partners as opposed to the laissez faire attitude of just a week ago.
My half hour is up in the whirlpool so I get out, shower and then go in search of the Holy Grail. As I am coming up the stairs I see Andrea going into the ladies shower room and decide that I will be a stalker and just wait outside in the corridor till she comes out. While standing there am approached by several girls all smiling and friendly. Now this is the same place where exactly a week ago I couldn't get one to look at me. So once more the axiom that every night at the FKK clubs is different is again proven true.
Andrea finally comes out and I approach her and ask if I can go with her. She looks at me and asks me if I have been drinking since she says the girls don't like to go with guys that are drunk. I am dumbstruck since I haven't had a drop of liquor in 12 years. I tell her no and that it must be my flushed face (Viagra) that is making her think that I am drunk. I let her smell my breath and she agrees that I have not been drinking. I explain that I can understand girls not liking to go with guys that are drinking since it is like smoking. I don't smoke and the smell of smoke bothers me. She agrees to go with me but tells me she has to go back into shower room and that I should wait for her downstairs on the couch by the cigarette machine.
I go down and there is a girl sitting there by the name of Anaka from Romania (more on her in the Horrible section). We talk a little bit but I tell her that I am waiting for someone. Five minutes or what feels like five hours go by and finally Andrea comes down and takes me by the hand and leads me to one of the rooms across from the cigarette machine. (I then realize the Andrea took my word about cigarette smoke to heart and went back into the shower room to brush her teeth to get rid of her cigarette smoke smell, truly a professional) I ask her if we could try to find a more quiet room and she brightens up because she says "Oh you know the rooms here at World". So she leads me to one of the rooms behind the masseuse. By this time I am comfortable and we are joking and making small talk. I will not describe in detail my session with Andrea because those of you that have had her already know and those that haven't owe it to yourselves to book her and find out. In a word, FABULOUS. Probably one of the best sessions I have ever had from any woman in my 38 years of sex; not just P4P. The only downside is that after Andrea you feel like you have had filet mignon and all other providers are just hamburger.
THE GOOD
We then part and I go to recuperate and believe me I needed recuperation after a session with Andrea. An hour goes by and a steady stream of girls is going by me all smiling and trying to get partners. Like I said earlier, the exact opposite of World a week ago? I then meet Arabella from Bulgaria up in the main room. The room is packed with girls and two are up on the pole stage dancing and fooling around. A lot of the girls are mimicking them and Arabella does the bump and grind in front of me and I realize that I am ready for another session. I take her hand and lead her to one of the rooms off of the Kino. Since I now know where the light dimmer is located I turn up the light and tell her that she is so beautiful that I want to really see her. A very good session follows with DFK, DATY, and BBBJ. She is quite a kisser and seems in no rush to finish. Multiple positions and an overall good experience. Now if she had not followed Andrea I would have said outstanding but my level of expectations has now been taken to a new height. Full 30 minutes of fun with Arabella and she continues to hold my hand as we go back into the main room and kisses me when we part. Real GFE.
THE HORRIBLE
I then decide to get something to eat and once again recharge. Am debating whether or not I should leave now since I am on a high note but decide that I might just get lucky and have a second session with Andrea. But that is not about to happen because by this time it is near 1 A.M and the place is really packed and there are delays in getting rooms. I am going down the hallway to the pool when I run into Anaka from Romania who I met earlier on the couch waiting for Andrea. She remembers my name and that is a plus in my book so I ask her if she is free and she is and we look for a room downstairs since nothing is available, we go upstairs to the Kino where we find one. She is not a real good kisser but is kind of sweet and encourages me to DATY. She then asks me to finger her and she is really into it and asks that I put in three fingers. Being the gentleman that I am I of course comply. I then feel something up near her cervix and I am thinking "Oh God did I get one that is wearing a Tampon? “ I then ask her if she is having her period and she says no so I reach farther in and pullout what I was feeling and it was a CONDOM. Gross me out or what!!! She thinks nothing of it and puts it into the trash and asks me to continue. This time I move up so that she can BBBJ me while I play with her pussy. She finally gets me hard even though I am still pretty upset about my pussy find. She puts MY condom on me and I begin missionary. If I am not turned off enough she really pushes me over the edge when after only three strokes she lifts up her arm and checks her watch. That was it. After all of this she is now going to be a clock watcher? I pull out and take off the condom and tell her I am pretty disgusted about the condom in her pussy and now she is going to check her watch, then just forget it. I put the 50 euros on the bed and put my towel back on and just walk out.
But the fool that I am I don’t want to leave World with a bad session ending the evening. It is now close to 2 A.M. and there is a wait for all of the rooms. I run into Gia from Italy who I had talked to earlier. She is a real cutey and speaks excellent English. I ask her if she wants to go to a room and we go in search of an open one. Just our luck as we are standing outside of the room behind the masseuse one opens up almost immediately. We go in and the first thing she does is sit down on the bed and goes into her pocket book for what I think is a condom. But no, she pulls out her cigarettes and lights one up. Now if I was a smoker maybe this wouldn’t have bothered me so much but she knew I didn’t smoke and if she had to have a smoke she should have done it before going with me. I am paying for a sex session not for her to take a smoke break. So remembering the Gambler “know when to fold, know when to hold them, know when to leave and know when to run” I decided that since I have not even kissed her it was time to run. This is exactly what I did. Go upstairs to the bar and order a coffee for the drive home. Gia eventually comes upstairs, approaches me and says she is sorry and would I give her another chance. I said maybe next time but not tonight since the mood has been broken.
See Andrea on my way out and she smiles and kisses me and wishes me back. Since it is obvious I am on a losing streak did not want to tempt fate so I did not try and book her. Didn’t want to take a chance of blowing it with her for the future.
Langsuan Man
Would some of the senior members (especially Peter, since he is German) like to or can they comment on Foxx1 comments:
"I don’t agree with their policies on the girls. How management treats their girls is wrong and in my opinion, illegal. The girls get fined for the most ridiculous things."
This is the first time that I have ever heard of such a thing and was somewhat surprised since I was under the illusion that girls in these FKK clubs were "independent contractors" and not employees.
I can understand certain requirements for standardization and insuring that the girls give the customers a fair deal but what Foxx1 describes is a little more over the top than I was expecting.
Sorry if I am sounding too naive!
Langsuan Man
LM,
Thanks for that well-written, dare I say, sensitive report. I think all of us have had nights like that, where you fly from one plateau to another, first up then down, or --often with me it seems-- first down then up!
Nobody would argue that you did the right thing to carpe diem with Andrea, just throw caution to the wind and head to a room with her.
But with the other two girls, and as a general modus operandi: Why did you choose not to avail yourself of a small get-to-know-you session on the couch, before comitting to a room? I mean, the way you describe the encounters, seems completely devoid of any mention of couch action, and the couch is there so you can test chemistry and get the taste of a girl, ja? That way you could probably find out if a girl like Gina smoked, etc.
Once you get the groove of a place like World, esp. if you are there for multi-hour visits, I've found it hugely profitable to chill on the couches with the girls for some time, before jumping into the room.
Just a suggestion, but maybe you should try testing the girls first?
But that was really a superb report and reading it one can tell you are an experienced and thoughtful hobbiest, for sure. I admire the way you handled the Anaka situation by just walking out of the session in disgust: you even had a 50E note ready and at hand. That is cool stuff!
Let us know about your next encounter with Andrea, hope it follows in the same direction as the first one...
Thanks again for your great report.
Ortos
LM,
some comments to your experiences from my perspective:
1. Andrea:
Congratulations! It is pay-sex, but she is able to give any man the illusion, it would be something different. Enjoy it, but pay attention. Read the earlier reports here. She made you feel as she makes nearly every man feel. Anyway, she´s a wonderful experience.
2. Anaka:
I wouldn´t have been as generous as you. I would have cancelled the session without paying. If necessary, I would have discussed that at hte reception. That´s far below from what you can expect in a FKK-Club. FKK-World or any other club: the management is dependent on your/our feedback. Give them a chance. FKK-World- and Palace-Management are known to listen to customer´s complaints and to react properly.
3. Gia:
I´m a smoker, so this wouldn´t have disturbed me. From time to time some women put their towel on the bed and then go to the toilet. I let tehm do that. And when they return, I take a demonstrative look at my watch, before going on to something different. And I never had a problem with not getting what I payed for. Of course, if you´re turned off by kissing a girl that tastes like an ash-try, you´re free to leave. Otherwise, just make it clear to her that you are not willing to count any break against your time. Most girls will accept that without further discussion.
Ortos´ remark is a good idea. But I can´t recommend searching for condoms in a girl´s pussy on a couch. That would make a very unfriendly impression. And if a woman ants to "steal" time by smoking in the room, you can´t check this out before either. But you can get a good impression af the girl, when you talk to her before doing business. The problem especially at world is, that a lot of girls do not speak english or german.
this is a continuation of my september 2-7 trip report- the first part is posted under general information since it involves three clubs: golden time, happy garden and oase.
i awoke sunday morning at around 10:15 am, too late for the free breakfast included with my 35 euro hot noisy room at top hotel ambassador. at 10:45 i meandered downstairs to see if there was any possibility of breakfast and sure enough, the russian girl who was cleaning up the room opened the bags of rolls, meats, and jellies she had put away and gave me a boiled egg and a cup of coffee. typical eurotourist hotel brekkie fare, i left her a euro tip and did not repeat- i slept in each morning due to the late closings at world. with fresh memories of the oase experience i was anxious to head out to fkk world. i checked in with the desert fox who was doing chores at the base and needed about 2.5 hours before departure. after a while, the cnn reports of the russian school massacre got too depressing so i went out to the hauptbahnhof to try and find a eurocharger for my phone. no luck- sunday and everything is closed. i decided to hop the next train to friedberg, our rendezvous point about halfway to world. i was an hour or so early so i cooled my heels in the area around the train station. the fox arrived and we were off on another sunny day. i enjoyed making a wrong turn and taking an extra cruise around the countryside for 10 minutes.
arrival at world was around 4pm. the parking lots were pretty full at this early hour. since we both know the drill, we were soon in the main lounge where i spotted a girl on my to do list from last trip- a tall, brunette playboy centerfold supermodel with d-cups and a pouty face to die for. olga from moscow seemed to remember me as a client but i told her no- i only lusted after her last time and wish to consummate it asap. ortos- you will remember me lusting after this girl- unfortunately i ignored your advice and her her reticence to engage in any couch action, and her rejection of my request to go to a hut, and followed her to one of the hallway downstairs rooms. i paid for these mistakes. olga was a little sarcastic from the outset- i managed a decent but short round of dfk and daty, the bj was rough at first- i tried to slow her to a nice porno picture show with gentle mouth action, but she was impatient. during the sex, positions were being changed too quickly and access to nether regions denied by imposition of postural impediments- i think you get the picture- a dud- or ein totalflop as they say on the nl board. i thanked her for nothing and moved on. a nice late afternoon sunbath by the pool was in order.
i reported to the fox and we strolled the house a bit and ran into lovely magda from romania- the thin blonde gamine ballerina with the aquiline nose. fox knew her companion- a spunky, animated brunette girl from one of the new former yugoslav republics. we all four went to a couch to fool around for a while- magda was mine. we learned about a leg spreading maneuver called the “shpagatz”. it was fun. magda doesn’t do anything but talk on the couch, no dfk or petting, and she was bossy in the room during our first date. besides she had a cold and i wasn’t going to chance it just because i like the way she looks. fox took his girl to a room and i bid magda see ya later. she was cold to me the rest of the trip.
i went back upstairs and soon found an appealing, deeply tanned black haired teen queen- larissa from romania was 19 and adorable with a slightly chunky soft muscular not skinny body, perky large b-cups and a black landing strip. sold. nice gf6 dfk and delicious munching- good porno-style subscrotal skills on the bj, and a cowgirl grind that was fun to watch. an excellent half hour. meet up with fox again to compare notes. we hit the barbecue which featured wursts, turkey breasts, porkchops (what else) and great salads and then we commenced another stroll but as we approached the dining area i was stopped dead in my tracks. andrea. my romanian pixie, my honey haired sweetie with the playboy playmate body in miniature, we embraced and sat on a couch for five minutes where i tasted the lips i had dreamed about for two months. we were soon in a cabin alone together. i was her first client of the day and boy- she must have had 15 clients this day. we had a great time, during the petting she initially denied finger access but after i played her like a piano for a while she suddenly reached down, pushed two of my fingers inside her and placed her fingers on the other side of her nubbin and we both frigged her away to orgasm. then we got to work on me with much butt and ball munching, incredible “head popping” bj and her trademark gymnastics while impaled on little pepti. we took a short cuddly nap afterwards and made a date for the last session of the night. i wished her the prostitute’s prayer “may all of you clients come in five minutes”.
i explored some more and now they had put out a goulash and noodles dinner. the food this trip at world was much improved and varied compared to july. i found fox chatting at the downstairs bar, which by the way now serves vodka and rum mixed drinks for 8 euro each. fox was with another american- none other than traveling male from this board. we chatted for a while- the club this night was crawling with american servicemen having a great time. i excused myself to "go see if i could get into trouble".
after a second dinner and a coffee, i soon was chatting with a slim blonde young girl with a pony tail like “i dream of genie”. she soon became upset- “you don’t remember me!” her name was ema (eemah) and sure enough, she jogged my memory, one of two young blonde romanian gfe girls that i did on my last night of the last trip in july. she is 22 but looks like a high school senior with a cups and a slim [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] butt. i apologized but she was upset and blew me off at the bar. as i remembered her excellent service and she is a real cutie, i smiled at her all night and about 2 hours later went up and apologized and she smiled and kissed me a began to rub my towel. it was off to the races with ema in front. we took a cabin and the stroll across the lawn in the dark was delicious as i cupped her baby buns. our reunion confirmed all was forgiven and she smooched and licked and sucked and ficked her way back into my memory. amazing that i could be so jaded that i would forget a sweet girl like ema. i will remember now.
as for the final session of the night with andrea, it was not to be, we thought world would close at 5am but it was sunday and they close at 4 am. there was always tomorrow. as the clock ticked down to closing time, fox and i did watch as andrea concluded a session within 5 minutes- the guy came as she was putting on the condom! as she was getting paid through the curtain i signaled her with my fingers “five minutes ?” and andrea signaled back “ no, one minute!” my blessing worked.
more later.
beffen 1
Beffen,
A very nice report.
Just my 2 cents to it:
When you play around and chat with a girl for a certain time (as you did with Magda), it´s not very polite to send her away without a good reason. I can understand, that she was cold to you afterwards. You don´t have to do a session with a girl, if you dont´t like to, but then you shouldn´t waste her time. Or tell her upfront, that you don´t want to do a session with her. Then it´s her choice to stay or to leave.
And with all respect to your sympathy for Andrea: wishing, other customers wouldn´t have as much fun with her as you had, isn´t very polite either. (btw, whatever she told you: she doesn´t have to serve 15 clients - perhaps she has to earn 750 €, but that´s a goal she can reach in different ways).
A FKK-Club is a place, where you can have lots of fun. You should allow other guests to have the same fun. Unfortunately, many guests tend to solidarise with the girls, not with the other customers. Girls know that and work with it. So visiting clubs is less fun, if many guys behave like you do. Following to this, more customers look for fun elsewhere. Thought to an end, this behaviour will be the dead of FKK-Clubs.
Novize,
Thank you for your comments but with all due respect- I think all of your hand wringing about my behavior and its affect on the club and other's experiences is much ado about nothing.
Magda and her friend invited us to chill out on the couch. I did not go with Magda because I knew her from before- as when I first met her, she did not give any indication on the couch that she would be fun, and because she had a cold. In my experience she does not give very much in the room- though I still enjoy talking to her and looking at her. I told her perhaps on my last day if she was feeling better- there was no waste of time and I understand her coolness for the rest of the trip -she knows I have her number and that is that.
You wrote: And with all respect to your sympathy for Andrea: wishing, other customers wouldn´t have as much fun with her as you had, isn´t very polite either.
Novize, do you really think my "wish" that Andrea have an easy time of it with short sessions had ANY effect on anyone's experience? I doubt it, premature ejaculators will come fast and guys like me will fuck for an hour and not finish. I allow any and all guests to enjoy themselves as they see fit. Andrea is a lovely girl who gives her all for all her customers and is very very popular- how a guy reacts to that treatment has nothing to do with me. Some guys enjoy a quick pop. I worked her long and hard and I was flirting and sympathizing, and making a comment on how talented and lovely she is.
Sorry to alarm you Novize, but I think the FKK experience will remain just as appealing despite my perceived selfishness and thoughtlessness, even if similar behavior is practiced by 50 other punters.
By the way- as for my concern for other punters, I always shoot straight and share whatever information I have, good or bad, about a girl or a club with any punter that I meet who asks.
Just my 0.02 cents.
Beffen
Novice,
let me chime in here in defense of Beffen. Reading his report, I really do not see traces of non-appropriate behavior or him wishing that others have less fun than he does.
He was not saying that Andrea is forced to have 15 encounters. I quote: "I was her first client of the day and boy- she must have had 15 clients this day." The meaing of this sentence is that he is sure that the number of clients serviced by her was at least 15. (We all know that Andrea works that way. She is in high demand. No harm in saying this.)
When Beffen says: "I wished her the prostitute’s prayer 'May all of you clients come in five minutes'.", obviously this is just a little flirty thing between him and Andrea. It does not influence at all what Andrea does with the next client.
Regarding Magda: Chatting with a girl on a sofa does not oblige you to go to the room with her. Beffen said that there was no petting or kissing. Neither one of us was there on the couch - so we should give him the benfit of the doubt.
euro
Euro,
Since english isn´t my native language, I obviouly misunderstood Beffen´s writing about Andrea - I apologize for that.
But anyway, if his prayer was a flirty thing between Andrea and him, it should have remained between them. It´s of no use spreading this prayer in the forum. If it doesn´t influence Andrea´s behaviour, at least it can influence the reader´s thoughts - not only about Beffen´s attitude towards other customers, but also about Andrea´s quality of service. If this happens, he didn´t even do her anything good. I´m absolutely sure that not all wsgforum-members know Andrea.
To Magda: of course he isn´t obliged to go to a room with her. I didn´t write that. But we all should know, why girls come to chat with us. So I think we shouldn´t "waste" their time, if we don´t want to do any action with them.
Coming to an end, just let met tell you that it wasn´t my main goal to critizise Beffen (whom I don´t know. Perhaps he´s the finest guy in this forum) but to comment a certain kind of behavior that slowly becomes common in FKK-Clubs and ruins the atmosphere there. I apologize to Beffen if my attack was to personal.
Novize - with z ;-)
@Novize: Euro is right, "she must have had 15 clients this day" means "sie muss an diesem Tag 15 Kunden gehabt haben" and not "sie muss an einem Tag 15 Kunden haben".
Sometimes the girls sit beside you on a sofa and do not give up, even if you tell'em that you don't want any company. They don't seem to care, put their tongue in your throat and their hands on your dick. Seems to be really hard for them to realize that No sometimes means No.
Hessen Bub
My feeling is that if you initiate a conversation with a girl and keep it going for a long time, especially if you come over and sit next to her, she will not appreciate it if you don't go to the room with her. You will make other men less willing to approach her and will be taking her out of circulation for that time. I never approach a girl who is sitting next to a guy and talking to him - that would seem rude to me (but if she is talking to him while standing up at a coffee table I might hover around her).
Once I have been to a room with them I might take some liberty and chat with them, but I am always careful not to waste much of their time. I also don't want them to get their hopes up.
Hessen Bub,
As for the 15 clients, see below.
And for the girls not giving up: you´re right. But that´s not the situation Beffen described. Anyway it´s true: impoliteness is not a problem of only some male guests.
Beffen,
sorry, but I read your answer just now, so I replied to the others first and some things have already been written now.
I apologize again for my misunderstanding and probably hitting the wrong person,
but I´m visiting FKK-Clubs for 2 1/2 years now and I have to object to your statement, that FKK-Clubs will ever be as appealing as they were - things already became worse, and not only at FKK-World.
I appreciate that you share your experiences with us and others. I share my experiences with you and others, too. With reports and comments.
Visited The World on Monday of last week. I drove up from Frankfurt, and had a Navi system in the rental car. To locate the place I would really recommend renting a car with navi for the non locals.
I had pre-booked a room at the Grünen Baum in Pulheim and it was nice and clean. It was run by an old couple who charged me 26€ including breakfast (cheap!!). It was still a little to far for walking? 3 km or so. Decided to go there by car. Pulheim is really not a very lively area; next time I go to the World I will book a hotel in the nearby town Liche. I was just driving through this town but at least it has a ciry centre…
I do not have much to add about the world which have not been written before. But maybe it’s worth mentioning that if you want Drinks of red-bull you need to buy “tickets” in the entry area.
All in all the world is probably the best FKK I have been visiting, with a wide selection of girls. It should be something for everyone’s taste.
During the hours I was there I had four sessions. All the girls where friendly and nice, but if I where to make a recommendation.:
Denise from Romania was a real GFE. DFK, BBBJ, DATY several positions and she whent down on her knees while we were waiting for a room. Giving me a BBBJ to kill the time an dstill not asking for more than the 50 €. All will a smile and and attitude that will give her a second round next time…
Wolfram
shit wolfram, I'd marry that one.
I visited World on Thursday, Sept. 16th.
Arriving at 11:30 a.m., there were already about 20 women waiting to serve about 10 customers. The girl/men-ratio didn´t change over the whole day. World backward: men as fair game, women hunting.
I was "shot" 4 times that day/evening:
1. Katharina/Cz
name: Katharina
hair: black, shoulder-length
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim, B-breast
origin: czech
born: 1982
tattoes: right schoulder, stomach, rump, right ankle
Katharina was a true GFE. Stylish and classy above average, this young, charming, humorous and conversational lady imho is an outstanding experience for those guys who seek for "more" than just sex. Anyway, her performance ranges from tender to really passionate without seeming artificially.
Recommended.
2. Veronika/Poland
name: Veronika
hair: artificially blond, long
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slim, A-breast
origin: polish
born: ~ 1983
still showing her youthful "charisma", she has won experience and her service improved again. Close to a recommendation.
3. Katharina again. See 1.
4. Karina/Romania
name: Karina
hair: black, culy, long
size: ~ 1,60 - 1,65 m
figure: slim, B-breast
origin: romanian
born: ~ 1982
tattoes: stomach, right upper arm
At world since approximately one week. She worked as a dancer before and delivered a nice tabledance-show. Her service began very tender and turned to very passionate during the session. Althoug it was a little bit artificially (I always get a little irritated, when a girl begins to moan heavily before I did anything), it was a very nice session that I will surely repeat in the future.
All mentioned girls deliver the full set of Club-Standard features (DFK, BBBJ, DATY, all positions. I didn´t ask for anal, CIM, COB).
The overall atmosphere was quiet low because there were too few customers. But having so many women around huntig for you really can be punter´s paradise.
NastyBoy,
Then you wouldn't get along with 50 €.
ur right Noviz...i usually drop 100 per babe cuz i like to shoot in their warm, tight, little mouths and then have them drain the vein while they rub my hairy gonads with their smooth little hands.
NastyBoy, even 100 wouldn´t be enough, if you would marry her.
Ma answer was just a remark to your comment further below. ;-)
"Sweetening" the waiting time for a room - as Wolfram wrote - is not uncommon in FKK-Clubs, especially when girls can´t deliver a normal conversation. You don´t have to pay for this time and service, unless you come before you find a free chamber.
Anyway, your last posting makes me crazy to go to World tomorrow... :-))
Oh I get it now Noviz.....Angelika wanted a million plus a baby benz. I get ur drift.
December can't get here soon enough for me.
NB
Nasty Boy,
1 million! 10.000 rooms with CIM! Not to mention the Baby Benz ;-)
That´s not a good deal.
Come to and at World or any other club and you´ll get a lot more fun for that amount of money.
Last Thursday, I visited World for possibly the last time in the near-future. Due to a recent work project change, I wouldn't be visiting Europe on a regular basis. Thus I was determined to make the most of my potentially last FKK visit.
I started the day early arriving at World around 11:45am. (Novize, I see that you were there around the same time?) Not surprisingly there were a good number of girls in the main room, but no one outside despite the sunny weather. So I made a quick scan of the room and headed outside to relax. Outside I realized it was a bit chilly but laid down on the lounge chairs near the pool. This is what makes World a great FKK - laying out near the pool, relaxing while naked girls and potential action is at your fingertips. But eventually the clouds blocked the sun and it did become too cold to stay out.
Thus I went inside and started the hunt for the ideal session mate. I eventually selected Irina who hangs out with Olga. She is from Moscow, 21. Face 8, body 7 (little chunkier than I like, but I like the slim little ones). She approached me in the hall. In the room she was extremely gfe - very enjoyable DFK and a great BBBJ with lots of eye contact and great motion. She made me remember what is special about FKK in addition to the great facilities - that is, the liberal services compared to other venues like AMS RLD, or Madrid's supermarket scene, or the SW scene. Fabulous session and I started thinking about a repeat with her later in the night.
Also in attendance were:
Olga - beautiful to look at, decided not to try again, she left around 8pm.
Andrea - CZ, nightshift starting around 6pm, pretty much booked all night, In the sauna, I ran into the guy who had booked her in between his two 2 hour sessions(!). Nice guy though, and he recommended another place near Zurich, Schwerzenbach called Global which is supposed to be like an FKK but the prices are higher, the girls are fewer but higher quality. The girl he reocommends there is Samira.
Olivia - slim blonde, perfect body, hangs out with Viktoria (actually they almost look like sisters), great smile, missed out on her as she left around 7:45pm.
I did have nice conversations with Andrea Rumania and Laura Jamaica, but wasn't interested in sessioning with either.
Also talked with Viktoria Poland who looks amazingly similar to Olivia, but her body pales in comparison to Olivia's paradigm
Talked to Larissa Rumania, but though she was definitely a looker, her attitude screamed rush job to me so I demonstrated enough will power to turn her away.
Regrettably not in attendance was Anna from Belorussia. Shiatsu remembers her fondly also, and she was one of the main reasons I returned this day.
Around 10pm realized that there was no one left I wanted to session with (Irina and Olga and Olivia had left), so I decided to make the most of my last FKK night and hopped in the car and headed for Palace. I'll include the description here just to continue the narrative.
FKK Palace:
Upon entering, I just had to say, Wow!
I'd been to Palace once before during the day shift and it was a ghost town compared to the night shift this night
Perhaps it was the Messe crowd, but the place was packed around 11:30 with about 40 girls and about 40 guys
Sessioned with Fernanda 22, from Dusseldorf. It was her first day at Palace, although I think she said she is a Wildenrath regular. Slim, perfect ass with straight shoulder-length dirty blond hair, and a face like that good looking brunette Spice Girl when she was young and hot. Very sweet personality. Some LFK led into a massage for her, then, on a whim, a prolonged DATY session. I usually don't partake, but the sight of this young girl spread before me was too tempting. She was responsive as well, lubing up quite copiously and after about 12 minutes of combined tongue and knuckle on the clitoris and middle finger insertion, she tensed up very believably. After that she remarked that she should pay me. In fact she did pay in kind with a nice CBJ, and some great positions (mish, CG, doggy). Somehow our pelvises aligned just right, the way it sometimes just happens. A very, very good session that wrapped up after 45 minutes. I definitely wanted to repeat later with Fernanda.
In the meantime, I did catch a glimpse of Marina (Lithuania) as she headed off with another patron. I had missed her on my first visit to Palace, so I resolved to bag her on this night. Well, it took until 3:00am till I could get the chance. Literally, you have to fight the other guys off with a stick to get a session with Marina. But it was worth it, she's got a great body, strangely beautiful face and a wide range of services. Very nice DFK, BBBJ any positions, also CIM was offered. Unfortunately, though I was still packing wood, I wasn't able to climax. But she definitely gave
an honest try, which must be tough at 3:45 am.
Sadly it was the end of the night, but I was glad to learn that Palace improves considerably in the night shift. The crowded atmoshpere and the quality of the girls approached the good old days of Atlantis.
Out of this night, I could provide advice to my fellow mongers:
If you want to FKK during the day go to World
If you want to FKK during the overnight go to Palace
Or if you can manage, do both for a full day of fun
Also, it turns out I will have one more go at it next Thursday, Sept 23 probably at Palace. Anyone else planning to go?
Cheers,
RtW
RtW,
Yes, I was there that day from 11:30 to 03:30.
I don´t want to write too much about Anna/Belorus, but let´s see it like this:
Anna has a new "boyfriend", and her old "boyfriend" is "jealous". So she had to leave the Rhein-Main-Area to avoid being "stalked" by him.
Her new residence is unknown.
I have only good things to report about my 3 days at World.. unbeliavable sex with unbelievable providers.. Top notch entertainment, too much to write today since I am getting over the Jet lag, Sex lag, and intense emotional strains of falling for a
lovely young women,,, shame on me :-)
Thank you Novice for your outstanding information, companionship, and suggestions. I will see you again very soon.
Here is a short list of what I can recall,
Andrea (Czech) -- Outstanding as usual
Sandra (Romania) Gourgeous,, playfull,, tight as a drum
Nicki (Czech) -- Beatufull young Czech girl,, eyes of a tiger
Katharina (Czech) Older, darker version of her little 1/2 sister
Simona (Romania) Dark,, mysterious,, professional
Betty (Cuba) - Aboslute all time favourite,, 2 sessions with her, 2 sessions with her and Sandra... The best sex of my life !
I will try and post some more details but feel free to read my reports on the Ignatzmice World section..
Regards,
Carnal1
Carnal1,
Sorry to welcome you back to reality; it's always tough to wake up from living a dream, eh?
Just a point of clarification:
I think the Sandra you mention is from Poland, not Romania, no? Maybe we are talking about two different Sandra's, but this is a slim, blue-eyed, curly-haired Farah Fawcett look-alike, no? I had a session or two with her last July. I particularly remember walking near the pool with Beffen, and then I bumped into Sandra, or she into me, or whatever and we headed to a couch and then a room. Above average session, then. But I didn't reach the fireworks you seem to have, at least in combination with nitro-glycerine Betty!
If I'm wrong, then just tell me to mind my own...but nobody will fault you for mixing up the nationality after your long, haze-filled FKK days and nights and a extended depressing flight back to Az...
Ortos
Carnal,
it was a real pleasure for me to neet you and your friends at world last sunday. I´m looking forward to meeting you soon.
I had two sessions that day with Katharina:
name: Katharina
hair: black, shoulder-length
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim, B-breast
origin: czech
born: 1982
tattoes: right schoulder, stomach, rump, right ankle
I know her for half a year now and sex still gets better every time I visit her. An alarming development... ;-)
I have nothing to add to my previous report.
The third session was with Anna from Romania. I won´t give a description of her looks and service, becaus she will leave Germany for two months on sunday and doesn´t know, if she will return at all. So I think, a description is of no use for anybody. Just for the records: I´m happy that I have met her.
I'm thinking of taking my first trip to World in the next couple of days. This will also be my first time at a German FKK. I'd like to go at a time when there is a good selection of girls and the place is neither packed or dead empty.
Choices are Sunday, Monday, or Tuesday. Daytime or evening.
Recommendations?
Thanks
The FKKW web site (which blows, by the way; I have not ever seen any of the girls appearing in the pictures there) announces:
"Achtung!!! Baldige Neueröffnung der FKK WORLD II"
Does anybody know the scoop?
euro
€100,
First of all to the pictures on the FKKW home page. All those girls were the regulars there June/July of Last Year. The Curly Redhead featured very often (Shower), with somewhat saggy breasts, is Lucy (Picture). She once won 2nd Place for all pro's in Germany on the Roemerforum. In the meantime she is working out of a house along the A3 around Limburg. It is tough for clubs to stay up to date on their home page with the girls. Most girls aren't into getting their pictures taken, and they don't have a big IT department updating the page.
To the New club, I posted some info on September the 10th. The countdown would point to November 1st, and there is talk of Bad Sulzuffen somewhere in the south. Hasn't been much buzz about it on the German boards either. Hopefully they will be more successful than Oase II which was open for the grand total of 8 minutes before being shut down for good.
Peter
FKKW Website
Once on the main page, there is a link for "Galerie." If you click this you are given three choices: eventpics, clubtour and girls. I have no doubts about the eventpics or clubtour. The pictures under "girls" are very suspect however. They are all close-ups of individual women. Their faces are clearly shown, the lighting is done well, the photographer seems to know what he is doing--they are a far cry from the other pictures on the site. They look like they are pulled from some soft-core porn site.
Peter, have you seen any of these women there?
Peter,
I guess I must have a different browser than the one you are using. When I go to FKK-World.de, I get a bunch of thumbnail pictures of girls on the left. You click on them, you get 12 pages of more thumbnails; clicking on them shows them larger. And what I am saying is that I have never seen any of these girls at World.
I was at World quite frequently, also last summer; it is my favorite place, as you probably already know. And I like the quality of the girls that frequent World. But still, I have never seen any of the girls in the pictures on the left.
Lucy: I remember here fondly; did her often. She has this real provocative flair, a real pro. She was one of the few girls that liked to use the shower adjacant to the men's locker room. And after the shower she loved to put on her makeup in front of the mirrors there, sitting on the counter, with her legs folded over each other in the lotus position. Once I walked up to her when she was in that position, stood behind her, and started playing with her breasts. She just smiled and kept putting on her lipstick. So my fingers moved south to the goods exposed by the lotus position. (I think the German's call this Shnider-sitz.) I dipped a finger in, and then two. She continued with her eye lashes. I then moved her around 180 degrees, and she gave me a very competent BJ. Got quite a bit of the lipstick on my dipstick. One of the cleaning ladies came in and told us to get a room. OK, that works for me!
Ibizza party: sure, those are authentic, too. I was there that night. Thankfully not featured on any pictures, though ;-)
euro
Ortos,
You could be right about Sandra. Most of the nicer girls seemed to come either from Poland, Romania or Czech Republic. She has one hell of a nice body. Beautifull eyes and long curly blonde hair.
She spoke very little English but had a very good translator via Betty. Fun to listen to a East European girl try and communicate to a Cuban Vixen. Both Bettty and I took turns giving her an oral examination.
It was a surreal experience. I had taken a looks at Sandra on the Friday I arrived but had my hands full with Andrea, Betty, and Nicki. I had asked Betty to hand pick whatever girl she wanted for our Saturday afternoon appointment and I was very happy to see her walk up to me holding Sandra's hand and tell me that she had been dreaming about eating her pussy the night before.
This was their first Lesbian experience with each other.. They had previously had some three-way sessions toghether but had not been intimate with each other yet.. What a Honeymoon !
The only difficult part was seperating them,, I had to break up the DFK and DATY a few times by nestling my head inbetween their bodies.. What a sight !
Look forward to meeting up with all of you again in November.
Regards,
Carnal 1
I've seen Lucy in the men's shower shaving her pussy, nice view.
Hessen Bub
Just for Info, HB's picture is from her new workplace. As you can see Lucy has packed on a few pounds and changed her hairdo. She also offers Anal, which she didn't use to.
Peter
Decision made. I'll be hitting FKKW this Saturday around 4pm. This is my first FKK experience and I'd be happy to meet up with a more experienced FKK punter. Going by car through Frankfurt.
Thank god for all the great information (especially ratings of girls) on this board.
Back to World after four months absence. I thought I hadn’t missed it or that I’d made it up. On entering I realised I hadn’t made it up.
They have made some more rooms - some of which are a bit more stylish than the ordinary ones
THURSDAY
There from 15.30 to 19.00. About 25 girls to start with, rising to about 40 or so. The quality of the girls lookswise was much better than it had been in the past so I had no trouble finding somebody, The question was who?
The question was answered by Hannah who smiled at me (a novel approach). We chatted for ten minutes on a couch. Her English is excellent – even tho only learnt in school. She is 19 and in Germany for a while to earn some money – she said she came to World because a girlfriend told her of this job which involved earning lots of money . She comes from Budapest and had been there for four days only. like most girls she like the job when the men are nice and not when the men are horrible.
In the room I booked halfhour and had a nice time. I later booked another hour. She launched herself on me in the main room passionately kissing and embracing. This led to an astounding time in the private room. She enjoyed it, getting a bit carried away leaving me with bruises on my chest (she did check as we started that I was ok about this and I told her it was fine for her to continue being a bit rough). Anyway, she came and then announced that she was dead!
I would recommend Hannah as she was very genuine and an “amateur” in the sense that she does what she likes. There was no hint of the mechanical. But she is very sensible – she kept finished the sessions spot on the time. The sex was very very good and enthusiastic
She is nicely slim, about 1.70 in shoes, brown hair down to shoulders or so, no obvious distinguishing marks
MONDAY
I had expected to see Hannah again. But she wasn’t there at first. Lots of other goodlooking girls – especially when compared to World of the past, The atmosphere was very relaxed and friendly. I saw Andrea from the Czech Republic.
After we had established that we were both pleased to see each other we went to a room for two hours. I’ve previously written about Andrea so won’t add anything here . She couldn't resist leaving an additional mark to those of Hannah (and Cordelia, my wife who had added her own to Hannah's!). Andrea was as good as ever.
Basically World is as good a place to spend a few hours as ever
Hi Shiatsu,
I have really enjoyed all of your reports. It must be very interesting to have women like Cordelia as your wife. From what I can tell, she would be more than happy to have sex with you every day. Most of us would, I believe, be completely content with that prospect. However, you prove that the hunting instinct in all of us is very strong.
I have always noted that about myself as well. Even when I was in a relationship with all the sex I could handle, I was always still looking after a few short initial months. But I have never had a companion that I felt I could confess this to. You seem to have found one in Cordelia. So my heartfelt congratulations to you on your selection of your partner.
Male hormones are mindblowing!
Hoping to meet the two of you one day
euro
Shiatsu,
Nice to hear from you again. I think your the person that first introduced me to Andrea. Thanks :-) At first glance she is not a stunner. But after the first word or two she is quite intoxicating.
I had a nice reuniion with her last month,, first of the Day for both of us out in one of the cabins.
I introduced her to a few guys I was hanging out with last month and they both raved about her afterwards,,, go figure !
Gutten tag,
Carnal1
Thanks guys for the welcome back to World
Euro - we'll be pleased to meet you anytime we're in Germany. We'll let you know dates
A short info on FKK-World 2:
Latest news say, the new World will open it´s doors on Nov. 1st in Pforzheim, which is in the middle between Stuttgart and Karlsruhe. The owner of the planned new club is one of the three owners of FKK-World 1.
Carnal1, Shiatsu et all,
Looks like I wil lbe moving back to the US - great offer coming down the pike. anyway - that means more Europe again - woo hoo!!
I'll keep you posted guys, as we got to hook up and redo March!
Congrat's Tarl,,
I just took a new position that allows me much more freedom to take off just about any time I want too. Add in the extra $$ and it makes for a great combination for World Mongering (no pun intended).
March is too far into the future, I will be at World in late November, around New Years, and again in Februrary. All three trips will have a stop in Frankfurt inbetween side trips around Europe(Budapest, Vienna, Salzburg, Amsterdam, etc).
I may have to check out Costa Rica as well now that there is a direct 3 hour flight from Phoenix ($395 RT).
Good luck down under,
C1
Novize,
Is there information about the FKKW 2 opening on at their website yet? I am curious where in Pforzheim the new World will be.
Dedalus
Tarl,
Are you giving up on all those randy sheilas??? What sort of damage are you leaving behind :-}
It will be great to see you back at the table.
Dedalus,
I have no new information about FKKW2. The owner also owns a brothel in Pforzheim, Wilferdinger Höhe, W.-Becker-Str. Maybe the new world will be located there, but I´m not sure.
Hi guys,
I'll be landing in Frankfurt from New York on a Friday very early in the morning. I have to be back at the airport by 8PM to catch a flight. Any suggestions how to make the best of it?
Thanks,
J.
Novize,
Thanks. I will keep my eyes open. While Pforzhein is not really "gleich um die Ecke" it is closer for me than Giessen.
Dedalus
Tarl, Iseeu, Carnal
If a group meeting at World takes place, count me in.
And Cordelia, never one to miss an opportunity, says that a motley of mongers (ok I made up the motley as a word for a group of mongers but it seems to fit!) would be too good an opportunity for her to miss meeting - if any of the guys are interested (outside World of course)
Shiatsu
2258,
we have had the same question a few times already. But what the heck, here is the answer again:
Flights from the US land in the early morning. Put your luggage in storage at the airport for a few hours. This is quite reasonably priced, and it frees you from having to lug things around. (If you get a rental, you don't need to dothis part, of course). Then get yourself a decent breakfast at the airport.
You may need to kill time until about 10 am or so. So a visit to the Beate Uhse shop at the airport is in order. They sell porn articles of all kinds. Browse a little to get your appetite going.
Then you have several options. The easiest and best are in that order:
1. Rent a car for the day. Get it with navigation. Program it for World, and off you go. Or go to Oase Burgholzhausen. Either way, you cannot loose.
2. Take a train to the main Frankfurt train station and there pick up a taxi to FKK Palace. (Best option without renting a car).
You should arrive at 11. Then hang out at the FKK until about 4 pm. This should give you enough tiem for 3 to 5 shots and a day you will not forget in a long time.
Have fun
euro
WORLD PREMIERE
The Italian Job!
WHEN : last week of oct 29 --> 1 Nov
WHERE : World, Beverly, Xtreff
WHO: 4/5 italians guys
WHY: Italians do it better
If you want to join the gang pm me.
"If a group meeting at World takes place, count me in. "
Schiatsu (note the German spelling of your name!),
For what it's worth, Carnal, Beffen and I have been exchanging ideas about possibly meeting up at World late in the last week in November, like the 26th or 27th. It would be great if you and any other "kindred spirits" might join!
A pow-wow is in order, for sure! Even if it consists of a motely crew of mongers...note, we are love and sex mongers, making love, not war!
Ortos
A little question for world recent visitor, is Andrea , the well know Andrea, still there ?
tnx
Matteo
Yes (well she was a week ago). Remember there are lots of other girls at World and many of them have good qualities. Andrea is only well known because she met the taste of wsg forum members, such as myself - other girls could well be awaiting your discovery!
I know her, I'm asking that cause next week I'll go to world with some friends and I want to be sure they can "meet" her attitude!
A WSG reunion at World, huh? It sounds very tempting. It'd be nice to visit some of the other clubs around FFM during the Thanksgiving weekend. I would truly give thanks for a four days of FKK! Does anyone know what the weather is like? Snowing? Are winter tires absolutely necessary?
I am on my way to Frankfurt and will arrive on Sunday morning. What do you recommend for the day and night? I have never been to a FKK club and looking forward to it. Money no object.
RTFF
Wry Cooter (don't think that snow tires would be necessary this early)
Ortos
Carnal
Beffen
Tarl
Iseeu
Schiatsu
I think that the idea of a "monger meeting" at World would be great but we should really finalize the dates as soon as possible
Thanksgiving is on Thursday the 25th of November and the deciding question would be whether or not Friday the 26th or Saturday the 27th would be the best day? My preference would be for the Saturday option since that would free up anyone that might have to work on Saturday during the day and would not be able to devout their full energies on Friday night. (Plus the traffic problem of getting to World on a Friday after work). But that is just my opinion. Also it will be too cold for any outside activities at World or Oase unless we have mongers that are also members of the Polar Bear Club.
For those coming from out of town with no obligations maybe a mini mongering session at Oase would be appropriate for them followed by the grand final at World the next night.
Anyone coming by plane I would be more that willing to provide transportation to World for the Saturday option. Unfortunately I have guests on Friday who are leaving during the day on Saturday at 1:45 P.M., so after that I am available for transportation duties. (I live 15 minutes from the airport at FRA)
We might even be able to entice Peter to make the trek down to World for the first annual "German WSG Monger Convention".
Senior Members will have to post and decide these details since they can post immediately since regular members must await Jacksons approval.
The only problem I can forsee is should we have a lottery for Andrea :) to prevent any discord?
LSM
My first trip to FKK World was on Saturday night. I just love the place. I thought it was way better than Oase (there should be a report on that too). For anyone interested here are the 5 girls I saw, and what I thought of them.
Girl1: Jennifer. From Czech Republic. I'd say mid 20s, tall, brunette. Looks quite sultry. She approached me, and I went for it. Her service was quite mechanical and her personality was pretty much non-existant. I wasn't too upset as I often like to get the first load over and done with quickly. Looks 8 Service 7.5
Girl 2: Hanne. 20 year old student from Budapest. Very cute face, thin girlish body, really nice personality. Had the good amateur feel about her. Quite cheeky and good fun to be with. Speaks quite good English too. Something about her troubled me a bit at times. She could get very aggressive in a cheeky way. Can't really describe it more than that. Anyway looks 8-8.5; Service 8.5 (I would give her only an 8, but she seems to have a hoover installed in her mouth)
Girl 3: Alexandra. Early 20s tall Romanian girl. Thin, again not much meat on it. Very exotic look. Has a pouty Egyptian look about her. Good English too. You would be able to pick her out straight away I think. Service was very good in all respects. Kissing was very natural from her, unlike the previous two girls. I didn't like her excessive use of her hands when she was giving me a blowjob but i put an end to that quite quickly. Ratings. Looks 8; Service 9
Girl 4: Anaca, also Romanian. 18 years old, pale skin, light brown/blonde hair. Angelic face, but seems to have a bit of a belly happening. Speaks quite good English. I'd seen her walking around desperately for hours and I thought I'd take a punt. She is quite amateur too, and was happy to chat quite awhile. She probably told me more of her problems than I really wanted to know. Found out she has a boyfriend, which explained a bit of her room behaviour. In the room there was good kissing from her too but she disappeared mentally during the sex. Afterwards she also tried to tell me some bullshit story about her money being stolen, in the hope I'd give her more. She also tried to get me to cum in her mouth, but I am not into spending an extra 50 euro for that. Looks: 7 (due to the puppy fat); Service 7.5
By the end of the night, I'd suddenly realised that I had yet to go with a blonde. As a blonde lover, I found this non-planned result a bit surprising, but I decided I would remedy it. There were a couple of face cute slightly older German blondes but I gave them a miss. A cute young bulgarian blonde that was always with her friend. Another cute romanian blonde that was giving me the evil eye since I rejected her 4 hours earlier. There was a really cute secretary lookalike blonde; tall leggy with glasses. I heard her speak German and thought I'd avoid her, but I later heard her speak another language, so I probably made a rash decision. So, in the end I went with a blonde Bulgarian called Kristina.
Girl 5: Kristina. She is 19 and speaks hardly any English and hardly any German. But she was always smiling when I approached her at about 4am. I'd noticed she doesnt go out and get many clients and seems to sit at the bar. I wasn't sure what to expect. But at 4am, this tall fit blonde couldnt keep her hands away from me, so I challenged her. I told her if I could get it up again, we'd go to the room. Of course, she won. Ended with a great experience. We would have gone for almost an hour, but she was happy to charge me just 50 because she said she enjoyed it so much. How flattering. Great kisser, really felt like girlfriend like stuff. Fantastic oral skills. During sex, her body language was good. Again, felt like GF stuff. She was just lying there, but was grinding, repositioning herself to enjoy herself more, and she wanted to hold me really close. It was actually very sweet. After the sex, instead of the condom off get out procedure, we lay there for about 10 minutes just kissing. It was actually me who decided it was time to go. Overall: Looks 8.5; Service 9.5. I don't give 10s! Her look was only 8.5 as I noticed upon inspection she wasn't blonde, and just dyed blonde!!! Next time I will have to do a blonde only trip.
Finally, make sure you check the train timetables carefully if you go by train from Frankfurt to Giessen. I was stranded for almost 2 hours, as Sunday trains are far fewer than on other days. Just a friendly warning.
LSM, et al,
It's a great idea and we can probably come up with a full convention schedule including lectures, cheap freebies and an exhibition of wares (the convention bimbos are already provided)...It's just bad timing.
Thanksgiving weekend finds all of us homeboys back at the sex penitentiary for the 3 F's - Family, Food, and Football. (Did you notice that it's not the 4 F's?) I'll be in FRA in the week immediately preceeding, and the week immediately afterwards, but alas not that weekend.
In any case, and not because I can't stand the thought of you guys all meeting up without me, I would think that it makes more sense and would give us more of the run of the club, not to have it on a crowded weekend night. Just my $.02.
Andrea, a source of discord? We'll just do what we did the last time we all met up at Weld - pass her around the circle until the music stops ( or is that begins?).
[QUOTE=Langsuan Man]Wry Cooter (don't think that snow tires would be necessary this early)
Ortos
Carnal
Beffen
Tarl
Iseeu
Schiatsu
I think that the idea of a "monger meeting" at World would be great but we should really finalize the dates as soon as possible
Thanksgiving is on Thursday the 25th of November and the deciding question would be whether or not Friday the 26th or Saturday the 27th would be the best day? My preference would be for the Saturday option since that would free up anyone that might have to work on Saturday during the day and would not be able to devout their full energies on Friday night. (Plus the traffic problem of getting to World on a Friday after work). But that is just my opinion. Also it will be too cold for any outside activities at World or Oase unless we have mongers that are also members of the Polar Bear Club.
For those coming from out of town with no obligations maybe a mini mongering session at Oase would be appropriate for them followed by the grand final at World the next night.
Anyone coming by plane I would be more that willing to provide transportation to World for the Saturday option. Unfortunately I have guests on Friday who are leaving during the day on Saturday at 1:45 P.M., so after that I am available for transportation duties. (I live 15 minutes from the airport at FRA)
We might even be able to entice Peter to make the trek down to World for the first annual "German WSG Monger Convention".
Senior Members will have to post and decide these details since they can post immediately since regular members must await Jacksons approval.
The only problem I can forsee is should we have a lottery for Andrea :) to prevent any discord?
LSM[/QUOTE]
I'd hate to travel all the way to Germany and miss a WSG convention, but maybe I'm gonna if it's around Thanksgiving.
Anyway, this is to let mongers know that I am tentatively planning to be in Germany (Frankfurt airport arrival) from Nov. 7 to 15, if I can finalize it with my work schedule.
I'll have a Hertz car (one of the little cheapies - maybe an Elf) for the week and would be glad to give a lift to any visiting WSG friends, provided you know in advance that I usually stay into the wee hours at the clubs.
I intend, tentatively, to visit the following:
Beverley
World
Atlantis (oh yeah, gots to go back there, if even just to see the automatic toilet seat twirl around)
Xtreff
Maybe some more than once. Maybe some alternates such as:
Palace (probably on the first night of arrival)
FKK 35 (maybe on the last night before departure)
I am open to suggestions, though, and wouldn't mind going into the field to more distant clubs such as PHG, provided the accompanying monger KNOWS THE D*** WAY THERE. I've only driven as far out of Frankfurt as Giessen in a car, and I got lost in Giessen trying to find Justus Leipzig (sp?) University there. So long trips would require an experienced navigator.
Any interested should pm me for a discussion of times and clubs, and keep in mind that nothing's chipped in marble just yet. Should be soon, though - I'll probably know for sure about my vacation time by Wednesday.
whitey2
So now I'm beginning to lend some serious consideration into going to this WSG Convention. Would anyone like to share in the cost of a hotel room and a rental car (diesel hopefully)? I can get a Friends/Family rate at Marriott for 59 Euro/night (=$75 USD) at the Courtyard Frankfurt Nordwestzentrum and I will probably try to book a Mercedes A-Klasse with NAV from Sixt (this will probably run about $240 USD incl. tax for four days). If I go, I'll probably arrive at FRA on Thursday 25 Nov at 10am.
Now all I have to decide on is whether to spend Thursday and Friday in Cologne / Duesseldorf (probably see Happy Garden and Parksauna) and Saturday and Sunday in Frankfurt (World of course and either Oase/Atlantis/Palace), or simply spend all four days in Frankfurt and hit all the four clubs.
Whitey2
We're in German from 10 -16 so we overlap.
We are definitely doing Beverly on 10,12,13 and similar on 14.
And We're around World on 11 and 15. If you'd like to meet up PM us to arrange. bev is more fun with fellow mongers - and we're looking for some company in/around World.
S and C
Well, we all have to make our debut at FKKW some time, and yesterday saw mine. F***ing awful weather, but not at all awful weather for f***ing. I’d taken careful note of the more recent posts here and made sure I had a scribbled note with names to look out for. Of course Andrea was at the top of the list, but I was under no illusion that I would even get a glimpse of her.
Enough has been written about the facilities. They are impressive indeed. And great selection of girls even on what I was assured was a slow day.
It was simply one of those days when a poor guy gets no rest. Just finished my first session, grabbed a drink and my magazine, and slunk into a distant corner downstairs to recover, when after no more than two minutes I was accosted again. I had not even looked up or seen the attack coming. Prolonged, irresistible couch action of course followed, which led inevitably to an excellent spell in the room. Back again in a daze an hour and a quarter later, and I’ll be buggered if the same thing didn’t happen again. Coffee put down, magazine opened, and suddenly another lovely naked body was hovering very closely over me on the sofa, smelling very, very nice indeed. I was just about to give this third beauty my usual defensive spiel: “my God, look, you’re really gorgeous, my eyes can’t get enough of you, but other parts are out of reach just now, OK? Rien simply ne va plus. Please understand, I’ve just come out of the room, I’m over fifty, knackered, and in need of a drink in my throat, not your tongue. Could we not meet again later? Please wake me up. No arguments now, OK?”. You know, that sort of diplomatic stuff. As I said, I was about to be very firm indeed, when I detected a familiar accent to the German: a Czech accent. A very Czech accent. I faltered. A pause. Very rapid thinking, as she looked on amusedly, coquettishly. No, no, there are many Czechs in a place like this. Indeed, just did one. Surely not? You’re not that lucky. But the description could just about fit, couldn’t it, with that thin-lipped smile and shoulder-length dark hair. Careful, Tosc, don’t make a very big mistake here. As nonchalantly as possible: “Er, what’s your name?”. “Andrea”. “Andrea?” Sweet smile. Soft, innocent “Yes”. Now, just take a long, deep breath. “The famous Andrea from Prague, nicht wahr?” And hurriedly patting the seat, “Like to take a seat?”. Oh my God, how closely was needless tragedy avoided. It would indeed have been Paradise Lost. How could I ever have forgiven myself for that one hesitation too many? And needless to say, Andrea was more than up to the task of re-energizing me.
For the record:
No 1. Sandy, Romania, 19. Turkish father, therefore rather darker skin, with deep brown hair. Flawless body. Rather inexperienced and refused DATY, but otherwise entertaining, standard, well-meaning service. Given the competition, however, she will soon doubtlessly – to quote Anastasia – become a victim of my past tense.
No 2. Yvette, Czech Rep., 22. Again dark-haired. Very shapely body, big breasts that I adored. Very outgoing, fun personality. Superb service, she was just great. 40 minutes on the couch, took an hour in the room, and it turned easily into an hour fifteen. What a great attitude.
No. 3. Andrea. Nothing to add to all that’s been said. Guys, you did not exaggerate. Loads on the couch, consumed recklessly in the room, and did not regret a single cent. Unforgettable.
Of course, as I relived it all on the way home in the car, I convinced myself that my fortune in being spoken to and snared downstairs like that by two such lovely, exceptional girls was the result of my sexual aura, effortless charisma and magnetic personality. But the more I think about it today, the more I come to realize that – just maybe - yesterday was my turn simply to have a massive dose of beginner’s luck. Still cannot believe it really. :)
End of November sounds like the "Mongers's Ball". Should be a fun weekend around Frankfurt. As it stands, there will be about 5-10 different WSG and Misc. people congregating that weekend in the Giessen/Frankurt areas. We shall all give thanks,,, for the opportunity we have with lovely Eastern Euro Women.
Life is good,
Carnal1
Toscana,
Loved your report, self-deprecating and fun to read. Welcome to the fraternity.
It must have been your sexual aura, effortless charisma and magnetic personality that led to these great sessions. Actually, I think that if you go into an FKK with the right attitude, not taking yourself or things too seriously, and just thanking your lucky stars that you have the opportunity and financial ability to access this other-worldly experience, that good things(and Andrea) come your way. The tight-assed looking, flustered, rude guys always seem to have the bad experiences.
"But the more I think about it today, the more I come to realize that – just maybe - yesterday was my turn simply to have a massive dose of beginner’s luck. "
[QUOTE=Carnal1]End of November sounds like the "Mongers's Ball". Should be a fun weekend around Frankfurt. As it stands, there will be about 5-10 different WSG and Misc. people congregating that weekend in the Giessen/Frankurt areas. We shall all give thanks,,, for the opportunity we have with lovely Eastern Euro Women.
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Carnal,
Yes, we shall call on you to say Grace before we gorge on the various tastey dishes spread (ing their legs) before us during the last weekend in November. Sounds like a proper Thanksgiving, eh? Fuck the turkey, bring on the other birds who need some stuffing...
If I understand correctly, some WSG members will be congregating at World as early as the 26th and 27th, whislt you won't be able to make through the velvet red curtain until Sun the 28th? Is that correct? Anyway, those of us who might be there before you will try to leave some left-overs on the table so you have at least something to enjoy...Oh and if my plans go correctly I'll have something like your favourite Bubble H. on hand as well...
Ortos
Hallo liefhebbers,
Having a great time in FKK land. Day 1 was spent at World. Arrived around 2 PM to a mostly sunny day. I found the only lounge chair still outside and chilled in the sun. Was joined there by a trolling by a black girl who stoked me and massaged me to get me to a room but noooooo. Still, its nice to be wanted.
Finally went inside for some nookie and was kidnapped by a former love Larissa. She is a black haired verz cute school girl muscular Romanian and her compatriot Amdra ??-sp who could be her cousin. We had a spirited threesome in one of the deluxe rooms, never been in these before, hell thez have reall doors and wall to wall mirrors and plush beds, these are the VIP rooms you can rent for the night. Didnt take the lesbian show because I want the real thing not a show for an extra 100E. A good time was had by all with lots of deep squishy finger fun and geile porno switcheroos.
Rested for a while and met anothe peitite black haired Romanian with pierced nipples who gave a somewhat distracted average preformance in the room. She is quite the pole dancer. Lots of pole dancing this night, verz few men and a lot of frustrated bored girls. Cmon guzs, get ovre here and help them out.
Next I found a cute blonde half German half Turkish girl with an incredible body named Aylin. She seduced me while I rested on the downstairs couches and after a good half hour of chit chat and progressively wet foreplay, we went upstairs to a VIP room and I spent an hour with her. Aylin is a very horny multiorgasmic girl who gives great head and posed for some photos in our deluxe VIP room. She worked at Oase but didnt like the attitude of her coworkers. she likes World much better.
Desert Fox had an engagement and was not expected until midnight or so. I sat on a couch near the DJ area and was soon joined by a very cute wavy haired slim girl with black hair and exotic eyemakeup. She reminded me of Betty Boop with her pretty somewhat square jawed face. Thats right ST and James, I finally met Czech Andrea. We got to know each other on the couch for about 20 minutes and then went to a room for some fun for which I was admittedly not quite ready but I was not about to pass on this much touted experience. It was worth it, Andrea is a very sexy and engaging girl. As we went to the locker to pay her for the 30 minutes, in walks the DesertFox at midnight.
We caught up for a while but soon his wife Alexandra snagged him and he went off to a room with her for about thee and a half hours. On my own again, I sat to eat something and was joined by a teenybopper from Colombia. I went for it and 21 yzear old Patricia did not disappoint. Ai poppi. The deepest of DFK and she gave me rectal exam with her probing tongue as well as spritied oral and multiposition hot sweaty nookie. We were again in a mirrored deluxe room. fun fun fun off the Autobahn.
I went downstairs for a sauna and a relax thinking I was done at 2 AM,. I had a a six pack already under my belt, I mean my towel. But on this slow night here comes Czech Andrea trolling, I asked her to join me on the couch and we had another session of couch foreplay before retiring to the mirrored room in the hallway before the massage area. This time I did her justice during an hour session.
I went back upstairs to watch the bored cuties taking turns on non stop pole dancing and horseplay with them chasing each other all over the great room. No men at all. Thez would come and sit with me and just sttroke me trzing to get me but it was strictly platonic at this point. Dont forget, this was jet lag day for me and I did a seven pack. Fox emerged from his honeymoon and we stayed till closing time 5 AM messing with the girls there were so many adorable cuties who were getting no action, some looked sad, I will try to remedy that later tonight and Saturday when we hook up with Fred.
Today Friday I am off to meet Desert Fox near his home and I will see Atlantis for the first time. Depending on the action there, we will stay or go to World. Tomorrow its around the World with Fast Freddy of the FBI and Sunday Fox and I go in the Foxmobile to PHG so he can see his new love Sammi and I can see the new bar and Wim will meet us there. Then I will need a vacation.
Beffen 1
I'll be in Frankfurt from the 24 - 30 of Nov. I'm partial to Palace due to it's prime location. This trip, I'm hoping to spread my wings a little and try to get to the other clubs. I wont have the benefit of a car, so public transport is my only choice. I'm trying to weed through the posts to find which other clubs are accessable by public transport.
Maybe I'll run into some fellow WSG fans.
Thanks,
Jaas
Will open on November, 3rd, in Pforzheim-Wilferdinger Höhe, Wilhelm-Becker-Strasse 9.
So far, there are a brothel and a tabledance-bar that run under this address.
The club will be open from 11:00 a.m to 02:00 a.m, Friday/Saturday from 11:00 a.m to 04:00 a.m.
Currently they are looking for women. The adverts say, they are looking for a maximum of 30 women. It seems, FKKW 2 will not be as big as the number 1.
Until now there's no homepage available.
This is still the top club in my opinion. Compared with my past visits the selection was much better. There were some amazing beauties. At the same time it seemed much less wild. I saw hardly any couch action anywhere, even in the kino. On past visits there was couch action going on more than half of the time in the TV room by the pool, and there was almost nonstop f***ing in the kino. I don’t think I saw anything more than a blow job in the front row from far away in the kino this time.
Most of the girls I saw were Romanian and the Romanians were great. I only recognized two girls from my last visit several months ago.
Louanna Maria is a gorgeous blonde Romania with shoulder length hair and a mole on her back. She was great!
Patricia was another fantastic Romanian! She had light brown shoulder length hair. She was very friendly and talkative.
Georgiana was on the tall side. She had shorter dark hair. Also great!
Two other nice and beautiful Romanians were Cindy, who has long blonde hair and is short and thin, and Karina, who has long curly black hair. I thought she looked Egyptian, and she was wearing a gold chain around her neck that looked Egyptian.
WARNING: Gia has short/medium length red hair and is on the short side. While I was on top of her she held her left arm up in the air looking at her watch and called out the time, “you have 5 minutes left ... you have 3 minutes left ...” I am kicking myself for not complaining to the manager about her, but I like the club and the manager and I don’t like to say anything on the rare occasions when something makes me unhappy. At least I can let everyone on the Internet know about her.
The buffet was available all night and was very good. The dishes changed throughout the evening. I thought it was a little better than at the Palace and the seating is much better.
Ortos, Beffen1, et al,
I will arrive in Europe Nov.21 for a quick stint in Amsterdam (Coffeeshops Only) then fly out the next morning to Budapest. After a few days travelling from Buda to Vienna I will make my way to Frankfurt on Friday afternoon, hop the first train out of the Bahnhoff up to Giessen, check into the Steingarten, and then taxi up to World. Depending on what you all are doing that weekend I would like to visit Oase as well. I will stay in Giessen until Monday and then head into Frankfurt for the last night to check out The Beach before I fly out on Tuesday.
I just returned from Las Vegas (The Palms Hotel) where they hosted the Playboy Club Golf Scramble and accompanying parties. Just when I was about to completely give up on American Women I find a Oasis (Oase :-) in the Desert for young hotties. Unbelievable talent from around the Country,, lots of Calender girls, Playmates of the Month from previous years, etc.. The Maloof brothers have figured out that "Sex Sells".. I have some great pics that I will share with you next month (nothing like Beffen1's photos).
BTW Ortos,, Mr. P is arriving Sunday from Amsterdam,, I will be there already with you guys enjoying the "Beffen Buffet".
Gutten tag,
Carnal1
Novize,
What are the chances that the Hell's Angels guys at FKKW will temporarily shift a few of the Giessen girls to Pforzheim for awhile?
Cheers,
Dedalus
Dedalus,
I don´t know.
FKKW has three owners and only one of them owns FKKW 2 (as far as I know). And I don´t think that the other two owners of FKKW2 want to risk their business. And the government of Baden-Württemberg is less liberal than the government Hessen, so most of the girls wouldn´t do themselves a favor if they went to FKKW2. Because of that I believe most girls willstay at FKKW 1.
Perhaps I can tell you more on Nov. 4th. If I don´t have to work to long on Nov. 3rd, I plan to visit the opening party of FKKW 2. It´s just 50 km from my office.
Dedalus,
"Shifting" the girls would be illegal under German law. I think that a few of the girls might be tempted to go there and check things out. But most of them are very comfortable in FKKW, and they will not want to change their commute routine. They have a pretty sure thing going right now.
But it is always a balance between supply and demand. I am sure that FKKW2 will do fine after an initial period.
euro
Re FKKW2:
Just wondering can anyone supply an estimate in time or distance for what it would take to drive from W1 to W2? I still am abit foggy on where FKKW2 will be located.
And do you suppose the management will offer a deal where if you pay entrance to one of the clubs you can also go to the other club free, similar to the way clubs near Koln used to offer entrance to their second club gratis?
Ortos,
the way from FKKW 1 to FKKW 2 is about 240 km on the highways A5/A8. Depending on the traffic this means a 2 - 3 hours drive from one world to the other.
And as far as I´m informed, both clubs are run independently. So I believe there will be no special deals. And even if, considering the distance it wouldn´t really make any sense.
Geissen-Pforzheim is a bit of a stretch. Also traffic plays a big role. The Autobahn between Karlsruhe-Stuttgart (Pforzheim lies is on this route) is usually quite full during the day. If you had clear roads, then I estimate that you could make the drive in 3 and 1/2 hours or less. For a more accurate estimate you should check out the ADAC website. (Germany's Autoclub)
Euro100,
I know that the owners of a club telling a girl or girls where they have to work will not wash. However an owner suggesting or even providing incentives to go to another club would not be illegal. While many of the FKKW I girls may have no need to switch, it would not be unprecedented for a few to move to the other club temporarily to help the place get of the ground. I think this was the case with the ill-fated Oase II.
In any case I am just curious to know if any top-acts will be trying out this club for a while when it opens. When Flamingo opened there were quite a few stars who were there during the first week. FKKW I also had a few big names (M & M held sway there for a few days at the start) during the first week.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I was at World twice during the last 7 days (Friday and Monday). Both days were basically very very slow. Many ladies seemed to leave early and by 10pm the place became a real yawner. Except for a very small number of stars (notably Andrea and Cindy) the proportion of 6s and below is growing alarmingly. Also, compared with weeks or months ago, the lesser stars are becoming way more aggresive in trying to make contact. Not surprising in view of the overall lack of male interest. I noticed the same trend at FKK Golden Time. Something to keep in mind.
Candide,
in many eastern european countries, Allhallows is a very important holiday. Lots of girls try to get free and travel to their families - if they can afford it and are allowed to travel home. This is the more important, the shorter the girls are staying in Germany. And especially at FKKW there are many "newcomers" working.
And for the male guests: A greater number of male guests is concentrating on FKK-clubs in spring and summer and on Bars and Nightclubs in autumn/winter. I don´t know, why, but it is like that.
But the pressure to earn money stays the same, so some of them "advertise" more aggressively. Sometimes it´s a real challenge not to get rude, then.
But so far, I don´t see a general trend in the actual development. I remember last winter at FKKW, when I was alone with 30 women sometimes. A very dangerous situation for every mongers wallet...
So we´ll have to hve an eye on this, but I think so far there´s no reason to run scared.
The FKK-club-business has it´s seasonal ups and downs, and we shouldn´t overvalue short-term developments.
Just my 2 Cents.
I was at World last Thursday, Saturday and Sunday evenings. Superlative sessions all. All three times the ratios were very favorable for the guys, there were never very many guys, it was very slow Sunday. All three nights I had no trouble obtaining a VIP room for all of my sessions except the last one on Sunday.
World was packed with more than enough often bored hotties to keep my interest right up until closing. Yes some girl left, but there were gorgeous young things all over the place, late at night they put on Romanian music and danced up a storm on the pole and the stage and chased each other around the room. I was expecting pillow fights to break out.
On Saturday also, I found lots of girls with guys in the jacuzzi and messing with a guy in the pool. I found you need not be alone on a couch late at night when its that slow, the girls just want some company and will come over and snuggle even though you tell them you are kaput.
Thanksgiving week the cuties will get a boost when we converge on the place.
beffen 1
Just want to let you know that me and my "partner", will be @ world sunday, so if you are there and want to share some "fun" , look for the Italian eXpedition team.
ByeBye
from an advertisement on [url]http://www.ladies.de[/url] :
Opening
November 3rd
Regular entrance fee 40,- €
Reduced entrance fee (20,- €) from Nov. 3rd too Nov. 11th
non-alcoholic drinks for free
Buffet from 7 p.m. to 11 p.m.
2 saunas, yaccuzzi, sex-cinema, Lick-her-Bar (whatever that might be), Tabledance, Yaccuzzi-suite, S/M-room,
Erotic-Lounges.
Opening times:
Friday/Saturday 11 a.m. - 4 a.m.
Sunday to Thursday 11 a.m - 2 a.m.
The way to FKKW 2:
Highway A8 between Karlsruhe and Stuttgart,
exit Pforzheim West,
at the traffic light turn left,
turn left again at the third traffic light into
Wilhelm-Becker-Str.
After 500 meters you´ll find FKKW 2 on the right side of the street (house no. 9)
So far there´s no information about the service prices available, but I believe it will be the same as in FKKW 1.
(translated by Novize, so don´t blame it on the club)
Hi,
FKKW 2 now advertises in ladies.de. The web page that comes up does not have links yet, but here it is
euro
From October 21 through October 24 I had a super but exhausting time in FKK land. Day 1 was spent at World. Arrived around 2 PM to a mostly sunny day. I found the only lounge chair still outside and chilled in the sun. Was joined there by a trolling by a black girl who said she was from Jamaica but her accent was from Africa. Laura lay alongside me in the sun and stroked me and massaged me for 30 minutes to get me to a room but noooooo, I wasn't having any just yet, and I made that clear to her. Still, its nice to be wanted.
Finally I went inside for some nookie and was kidnapped by a former love Larissa. She is a compact muscled curvy black haired very cute school girl Romanian. She was trolling with her compatriot Andra who, though slighly taller and more willowy, could be her cousin. Both had Mademoiselle or Junior Vogue faces, very nice when pressed together with lil beffy sandwiched in between. We had a spirited threesome in the deluxe room behind the DJ, with the translucent door and mirror wall. I had never been in these rooms before, giant plush bed and one or more walls of mirrors; these are the VIP rooms you can rent for the night. Didnt take the lesbian show because I want the real thing not a show for an extra 100E. But a good time was had by all with lots of deep squishy finger fun, and geile porno switcheroos.
I rested for a while and soon saw a girl who reminded me of a craqzy female roomate I used to have in my house. She is a petite black haired Romanian with pierced nipples who, though very animated and talkative, gave a somewhat distracted, disjointed below average preformance in the room. She is quite the pole dancer though. The rest of the trip she called to me by name, and always wanted to chat. There was lots of pole dancing late this night with very few men and a lot of frustrated bored girls. Cmon guys, get over here and help them out.
Next I found a cute but not gorgeous blonde half German half Turkish girl with an incredible body named Aylin. She seduced me while I rested on the downstairs couches and after a good half hour of chit chat and progressively wet foreplay, we went upstairs to a VIP room and I spent an hour with her. Aylin is a very horny responsive and appreciative girl who gives great head. She worked at Oase but didnt like the attitude of her coworkers and said she likes World much better. Later when I saw her she sadly said I was her only session of the night. I did not see her the rest of the trip. The competition at World is fierce.
Desert Fox had an engagement and was not expected until midnight or so. I sat on a couch near the DJ area and was soon joined by a very cute wavy haired slim girl with black hair and exotic eyemakeup. She reminded me of Betty Boop with her pretty somewhat square jawed face. Thats right ST and James, I finally met Czech Andrea. We got to know each other on the couch for about 20 minutes and then went to a room for some fun for which I was admittedly not quite ready but I was not about to pass on this much touted experience. It was worth it, Andrea is a very sexy and engaging girl. She throws her self into it full tilt and leaves no crevasse or aspect of your sexuality yearning for attention. Andrea is very thorough. As we went to the locker to pay her for the 30 minutes, in walks the DesertFox at midnight.
Fox and I caught up on things for a while but soon Fox's cute blond Bulgarian, X-tina Aguilera look alike wife Alexandra, the first girl I ever did at World, snagged him and he went off to a room with her for about thee and a half hours. On my own again, I sat to eat something and when finished I was joined by a black haired fresh faced teenybopper from Colombia. She looked just like my first girl Larissa, they could be sisters, and in fact I confused them passing through the club for the rest of the trip. We moved to the nearby couches. Speaking Spanish with Patricia on the couch was fun, and more and more of her girlish body and mouth were being opened to me, as was my towel, so I went for it and 21 year old Patricia did not disappoint. Ai poppi. The deepest of frenetic DFK and she gave me rectal exam with her probing tongue as well as spritted oral and multiposition hot sweaty nookie. I suspect Patricia is from Spain, she did not really have any Incan features. We were again in a mirrored deluxe room, this time with a sleigh bed.
After bidding adios to Patricia, I went downstairs for a sauna and a relax thinking I was done at 2 AM. I had a a six pack already under my belt, I mean my towel. But on this slow night here comes Czech Andrea trolling, I asked her to join me on the couch and we had another session of couch foreplay before retiring to the smaller multi-mirrored room in the hallway just before the massage area. This time I did her justice during an hour session.
I went back upstairs to watch the bored cuties taking turns on non stop pole dancing and horseplay with them chasing each other all over the great room. No men at all. They would come and sit with me and just stroke me trying to get me but it was strictly platonic at this point. Kaput. This was jet lag day for me and I did a seven pack. Fox emerged from his honeymoon and we stayed till closing time 5 AM messing with the girls at the bar, there were so many adorable naked cuties who were getting no action, some looked sad. I wanted to help a few of them
So after a thirty minute drive to Friedberg, half way betwen Giessen and Frankfurt, Fox dropped me at the train. I returned to Frankfurt Hbf with the morning commuters, I am a predawn commuter at home and in Frankfurt it seems, and arrived at Hotel Excelsior just in time to partake of breakfast and go to bed. Later today the agenda is a maiden voyage to Atlantis. See that thread for the report.
Tschuss
Beffen
FKK world will open a second facility here in Pforzheim.
Pforzheim you find on the A8 highway south of Frankfurt. It is about 120 KM south of Frankfurt airport. Take from airport direction to BASEL on A5 and in Karlsruhe change to A8 to Stuttgart. Half way between Karlsruhe and Stuttgart you will find. Take exit Pforzheim west. At the trafic light turn left and keep the street. At the third trafic light turn left in the Wilhelm Becker street and pass the "FAMILIA" shopping center. On the right side you find FKK-World-II.
MEGA-Opening on 3. Nov:
FKK-WORLD 2 - dicounted entance fee at the opening week -
telefone for information 07231-102207
The facility will be smaller than FKK world in Giessen. As i will be at the Opening party i will report back latest on 4th Nov. Stay tuned !!!!!
Detailed directions to FKK World-2
Drive to direction BASEL. On the A8 you have to get down at PFORZHEIM-WEST, turn to the right on the B10 on KARLSRUHER STRASSE. Continue for 160m, turn left staying on the B10 / KARLSRUHER STRASSE for 1110m. In PFORZHEIM turn left to WILHELM-BECKER-STRASSE. Continue for 400m to House Number 9 at FKK-WORLD 2
One more tip. On the opening 3rd of November, the entrance fee is reduced to 20 Euro.
Is FKK World reachable relatively easily by combination of public transport and cab like Oase from Frankfrut ? If so, would any one care to provide direction and cost?
Thanks in advance.
Le Grand
Le Grande,
Trains to Giessen leave Frankfurt at least twice an hour. Same for Giessen to Frankfurt except from 8, 9 10 and 11 PM there is one hourly train at 00:52. The last train from Giessen back to Frankfurt leaves at 23:52, the next train is at 4:40 AM. This is the train I usually take. The trip is euro 11.40 each way and takes about 45 minutes.
The taxi to World from the Giessen bahnhof cost 15-17 euro each way. There are always lots of taxis at the club at night and at the train statiion during the day.
So, commuting costs just under 30 euro each way.
Beffen 1
But not at FKKW.
But since FKKW was the last club she worked at before she began to work in an apartment, I´ll repeat my posting from the "Fantasyland"-section:
"For all those guys who missed Lucy (May 2002 - Feb. 2003 Fantasyland, Feb. 2003 Atlantis, March 2003 - May 2003 Oase, May 2003 - December 2003 FKKW, December 2003 until now apartement service):
Lucy is back at Saunaworld, but only on Saturdays and Sundays. Most probably her appearance is limited until mid of December."
From Frankfurt main station, there's a regional express train that goes to Giessen in about 45 minutes. This costs about 14 Euro and I think you're supposed to purchase the ticket at the DB counters in the train station (not the self-service kiosks for local travel). I have started in a non-regional express train in Frankfurt, but had to make one, maybe two, train changes to get to Giessen; this was only a little cheaper and I used the self-service kiosks to get the ticket, but it took more travel time. I present it as just another option.
At the Giessen train station there are taxis and hotels nearby. I usually stay at the Parkhotel, which cost 35 Euro per night when I was there in August. This includes a breakfast. There are certainly other hotels closer to World, but I have no experience with them.
The taxis from Giessen train station to World have cost me anywhere from 17 Euro to 19 Euro, one-way.
Le Grand
Go to [url]www.bahn.de[/url]. Choose the English version – you get to this by clicking on “Int Guests” – then click on “Planning your journey”
This site will give an accurate answer to all public transport questions in Germany
The destination you put in (choosing the option for addresses not stations) should be Pohlheim, Gruninger Weg. When it says the destination is ambiguous choose Gruninger Weg Ende – that will walk you right past World. The site will give you details of connections and even a walking map for the last bit.
I don’t give details since the options vary enormously depending on time off day. The total journey time is about 1 hour 20 mins, The problem may be the return to FFM since public transport from Pohlheim stops around 22.00 (depending on day of week).
An option could be to get a train to Giessen (about 40 mins) and then a taxi (20mins). Train costs about 11 euro (or 17 if an IC) and tickets can be bought at the Reisezentrum in FFM or from automatic ticket machines (make sure you have lots of small notes or coins). Taxi costs about 17 euro
Just to say (again) that I'll be at World on 11 and 15th Nov and with Cordelia at Beverly/Caesars Palace the 10,12,13,14. We've got plans to meet several other wsg members - if you 'd like to join up at any point then PM us
I've been going to FKK clubs for many years and I have seen ups and downs. I was at World on Monday and saw several things that have convinced me NEVER to return again.
First, the few time I have been here, I have never seen a large crowd and the girls were quite average. I never saw more than 25-35 even though the club advertises close to 100 girls. I used to see Magda who was a former Atlantis girl, but she was not there on this visit.
I find that there is usually one attractive girl who typically has an attitude and lots of average girls that can be quite pushy. This time I found a combination of events that was quite disturbing.
First, I had a pretty good session with a German girl, but from facts she told me I sensed she had some psychological problems. I don't like taking advantage of people and see seemed very immature.
Second, there was a huge percentage of Romanian girls. My experience is that their service is usually bad. Unlike the Russians that want to make alot of money and generally provide good service, the Romanians don't really like what they do or are forced into it by economics. Had a really bad session with a Romanian girl called Elena. She looked quite attractive (tall with large breasts). When she was in the room, the complaints and restrictions was such a turn off. I don't pay to get an attitude. I treat the girls nice and expect them to show some respect. I know the work is hard, but so is the money. Well, after the complaints and attitude I decided to cancel the session. She insisted on 50 and we had this arguement with the frau (receptionist). I ended up having to pay her anyway. I tossed the money on the floor and both were pissed, but she was not too proud to pick it up.
While waiting around I was aggressively pursued by several girls. One even sat on me to keep me from leaving. Sure, business was a bit slow, but like I said, I come here to relax. Not to give away money. Others were similarly pursued.
In another incident, a customer complained when a girl insisted on 100 for a session that went beyond 30 minutes. I had seen this before and this appears to be a pattern at this club.
Finally, from the attitude of the management I could tell they don't really care about the girls or the customer. It's all about making money.
These events have convinced me that there is no real reason to go out of the way to this club. Service is poor although the facilities are good. It's much further away than Atlantis or Oase.
We're still alive, after something like 26 session @ world, we're back in Italy, and we can only dream about our special sunday.
World was fantastic with the halloween make up , the special buffet last 12 hours always with something different to try.
Was my first visit on sunday, it was really really quite, 40 girls maximun i think and no more then 150 "collegue" from 10 am till 3 pm
I personally had 4 sessions.
1) Samanta after 2 cim with my friend, i took her for an Anal session
2) Olga red russian 180 cm at least she really know how to suck !!!!
3) With one of my italian partner we took Carina and her roommate for a double in the hydromassage with some lesbo action.
(In the kino there was a ggg movie, and Carina was one of the star of this movie)
4) A blonde german girl, sorry can remember her name, but she gave me a fantastic gfe.
My friends had session with other girl such as Andrea, Iveta, and many more
We had a fantastic sunday , the next italian invasion will be on the 1st week of december, i will be in New York, but if someone of you want to join the crew Pm me i'll introduce you the other members.
Hi guys,
I'll be in the Frankfurt area on 24th and 25th of November and will be visiting Palace and/or World. Will anybody else be there on one of those days for a chat or is the big party only coming on the weekend after?
stiff6
Gentlemen,
I have spent most of my mongering in Latin America and for the first time I plan to venture in Frankfurt. I would certainly appreciate the company of a fellow mongerer so if anyone is interested, I will be in Frankfurt on Nov 12 to 14 at a hotel near the main train station HBF. Perhaps I can return the favor somewhere in S.A.
Cantor
Gentlemen,
I have spent most of my mongering in Latin America and for the first time I plan to venture in Frankfurt. I would certainly appreciate the company of a fellow mongerer so if anyone is interested, I will be in Frankfurt on Nov 12 to 14 at a hotel near the main train station HBF. Perhaps I can return the favor somewhere in S.A.
Cantor
Does anyone has info on World 2. Whats their website?
I know that World is relativley new on th FKK Scene but was curious what the scene is like on New Years Eve? This year NYE is on a Saturday so I would assume that the girls will party all weekend and leave monday,,just like any other weeked ? Did the club have a party last Year?
Looking forward to the Mongers Turkey Weekend Festivities :-)
BTW,, what is up with this site ?
C1
Carnal,
In the last years, most FKK-Clubs were closed on Xmas and New Years Eve. Most of them opend again on New Year afternoon, but lots of girls were stoned dead. So most probably it would not be the best idea to visit a Club that day.
Also you have to take into account that many girls will celebrate Xmas and New Year at home with their families - if they can afford it and are allowed to do so. So from mid of December on it might get quiet slow in every club.
Last year the last big party at FKK-World was held on Dec. 20th, if I remember correctly.
Gentlemen,
I have spent most of my mongering in Latin America and for the first time I plan to venture in Frankfurt. I would certainly appreciate the company of a fellow mongerer so if anyone is interested, I will be in Frankfurt on Nov 12 to 14 at a hotel near the main train station HBF. Perhaps I can return the favor somewhere in S.A.
Cantor
[QUOTE=Candide]I was at World twice during the last 7 days (Friday and Monday). Both days were basically very very slow. Many ladies seemed to leave early and by 10pm the place became a real yawner. Except for a very small number of stars (notably Andrea and Cindy) the proportion of 6s and below is growing alarmingly. Also, compared with weeks or months ago, the lesser stars are becoming way more aggresive in trying to make contact. Not surprising in view of the overall lack of male interest. I noticed the same trend at FKK Golden Time. Something to keep in mind.[/QUOTE]I concur with your assessment. I have been to World a few times and have never found the selection that great. The girls tend to be aggressive and the one or two lookers either provide poor service or had that "attitude". My club of choice is Oase. The last time I was there one customer complained because the girl claimed they spent an hour in the room. I had a very bad experience with a Romanian girl named Elena. She set so many restrictions that I just ended the session. Management was totally unresponsive. Needless to say, I will never return. There are better alternatives. I also find that when ever a girl is reluctant to give her name it is not a good sign. She probably knows that there "reputation" is known.
Another great day at FKK World, which was pleasantly warm and welcoming last week after my abortive trip to Atlantis. Perhaps 60 ladies and roughly the same number of gents in attendance. Only the food was a big let-down: noodles and tomato or mushroom sauce was all that was on offer. Still, no one goes there for gourmet cuisine, do they?
Taken in by Jenny from Brasov/Romania, mainly because her glittering ruby-studded belt and garter made her look extremely alluring. A lively girl, quite passionate, and took her time. Also likes to take the lead. Good session, then off to the pool, which was a bit colder than in other places. I think I saw one other guy swim. But there was plenty of action in the adjacent jacuzzi. There is also a steam room and several saunas. Unlike ATL and BHH, they serve alcohol at an extra charge. Beer is 5 euros, and there is a champagne bar downstairs.
After picking at some of the yucky food, my eyes alighted on Jennifer (Prague/Cz), who looked very beautiful in a mournful way. She was ok, not wildly responsive, but I did not expect her to be. Very glamorous apart from a large tattoo on one of her arms. Reasonable session.
Watched some belly-dancing on the stage and wondered if I would manage a third. Chose Kristina from Varna/Bulgaria. Peroxide blonde, 21 years (PS: the other two also claimed to be 21), sitting there at the bar chirping along with the music. Kristina turned out to be a real star. Medium build and height, but very good company, versatile, good kissing and BBBJ. I liked her a lot and found her very warm, cuddly and responsive. Looked like a sexy schoolgirl in her brown boots and so shot nr. 3 wasn’t a problem. Unlike the other two, she stayed with me for some time after the act and seemed very relaxed. Talked about herself - had trained as a vet in Varna but found there was no work. Likes animals. Definitely the best of the three in my book. I had spent 215 euros over a three-hour period and left feeling totally satisfied.
Two visits to World in the last week. I don't get to many FKKs so I can't give a good comparison with other clubs. What is clear is that the numbers and looks of the girls at World was much lower on these two ocasions than six weeks previously, but then, it is November. The club has an annual cycle and midwinter is a time of fewer clients and so fewer men. On Thursday there were about 35 girls and ten men around 19.00, on Monday there were around 30 girls and 10 men around 19.00
There were many of the regulars there still - Cindy, Betty, Magda, Jennifer (Czech), Stephanie, Hannah, Jenny (Romania), Julia (Germany), are a few whose names I remember. I was approached by many girls but found them all to be totally non-aggressive and polite - I was impressed by the friendliness and helpfulness of some of these - even when men were leaving and in the changing rooms some of the girls were friendly. These girls are ones who are likely to give a good experience (Cindy, Stephanie, Jenny from rumania) but of course this is not an infallible guide. Some of the best girls are not very friendly on the surface (Betty for example has had good reports)
I was not awestruck by the choice - avoiding Magda and Jennifer as their attitude is somewhat glazed and distant. Avoiding many others because I ws not overstruck by their looks (I see no reason to pay for a girl at an FKK who is worse looking than I would find at a Partytreff, unless that girl has something special about their personality or attitude). The overall atmosphere seemed to be very flat - the girls had none of the sparkle that was around in the summer
I am reluctant to give the name of one girl I went with who I like particularly. This is because some wsg members have been rather incautious and have told girls that I have reported on them. As a result, those girls will no longer go with me. Many girls do not like to know that we report in detail on them - we need to be careful which girls we say what to.
Anyway as a result I will not give the name of the girl I like - I might want to visit her again in a few weeks and I do not want wsg members repeating the detail of my posts back to her. Her father will kill her if he finds out what she is doing so she wil not want her details broadcast. She does have the distinction of being the only girl I've paid three sessions for (totalling 2,5 hours) and who has failed to make me come!. One time I made her come and she then expired. Next time halfway through the session she announced she had a pain in her abdomen and could not fuck!!, perhaps I should have complained, but I spent the rest of the hour with her and had a really enjoyable time (helped by the sight of her long legs and tight ass). We spent time in a room with five mirrored sides - the rooms at World are gradually improving, although the food seems to have slipped even lower from its previous poor quality. This girl is what I like about World - you can get relatively amateur workers who are genuine - even if they are not that good at all aspects of their job.
By the way, I had one session with a girl which was really wild and ferocious lover - the girl left me black and blue, using her sharp teeth and strong hands, That was a new experience!!
Hi shiatzu- Thanks for the recent insight on World. I know that some of the World girls have bounced around, first to Atlantis and now to FKK World II. I'll see next weekend I guess.
By the way, I too have had my reports literally read back to a favorite girl at World by a forum member. She was puzzled at first but understood after I explained the story- it actually made us closer. That stuff is no fun though- she was told I was saying bad things about her, imagine that. Also- I'm glad its not only me that can get into a zone with a girl where I thouroughly enjoy the sessions but do not finish. A lot of girls can't handle that after a while and drop you. So we all have our picadillos- some cum too fast and some not fast enough.
beffen 1
Beffen
Thanks for your post, It's a shame to think that wsg members actually are insensitive enough to read posts back to the girls - although sometimes as you say it may actually end up good. It seems that there is something of an issue around this: two wsg members have told me in the last week that they have stopped posting detail or have had problems because other wsg members relay their posts back to the girls.
If wsg members want the forum to be really effective it is important that they do not try to make connections with girls by relating the detail of other members' posts. There are three members now that I know of - with posts totalling the best part of a thousand - who have had to make their posts less useful because of this behaviour by other wsg members
Anyway, on a more cheerful note, I'll be in the area again soon (5 and 6 Dec) and will visit World. I am thinking maybe some of the other clubs (Oase, Beach?) might be better than World - which certainly seemed, for the first time, to lack sparkle last time - so I look forward to reading your next report about the ambience at World
Shiatsu
I was at World last night, Sunday 21-11.
It was my first visit since early July '04. I saw lots of regulars: Andrea - Czech, Andrea-Rom, Julia-Rom, Cindy-Czech, Betty-Cuba, etc. But overall, I agree, the line-up for the first time in my experience lacked the kind of 'sparkle' to use Shiatsu's word that it used to.
I also agree 100% with what Beffen and Shiatsu say about not relaying reports. I have now come to the opinion that the less the girls know about our internet connections, the better. I have never had a really strongly good reaction from a girl when I tell her I will post about her or have read a post about her on the Internet. It may well leave a general negative impression in the girls' mind...?
On another note: Last night at World, posted all over the place were flyers announcing a sort of X-mass party at World on 6th Dec. So Shiatsu, you will overlap with this party...remember, how both you and I attended a party last April at World and both of us independently did not have the best impression of the club at partytime?
Tonight I am inspired to try another club, Oase. But I'll be back at World late this week, Fri-Sat, to see if there is more "sparkle" there...
Ortos
Hey everyone i understand the reason for not posting detailes but i think that at least fi there is a excepinal bad session you should post ass much as possiable and can understand (although i am still dissapointed ) not risking a true gem. but at least save me the time and money of a bad girl.
thanks for your help
rd
RedDog,
I think, nobody wants repeat a session with a girl that delivered poor service. If I am right, nobody will have a problem with posting bad encounters, because it doesn´t matter if this girl is angry or not.
I am posting reports for two years now and never had to face real problems with a girl, although every single girl knew that I will post my experiences. I never claimed an advantage because of that and I never received any disadvantage. But I have some own "rules" for postings:
1. Every session is unique and can´t be repeated. So it´s at least useless to report every single detail. It will never happen again this way. It´s the overall impression that counts, not the number of positions.
2. The women deliver an extremely "personal" service (at least the good providers). A woman I am not happy with may be a great experience for the next client. So I report "I didn´t enjoy it", but not "this woman delivered bad service". Of course, this rule does not apply if a girl wants to rip me off.
3. I demand to be treated respectfully. So I treat the women the same way and I write about them respectfully.
4. Even pimps can read. So I do not write anything that could cause trouble for the girl (discounts received or similar). Enjoy it, but don´t write about it!!!
5. When writing a report, I remember that there will always be an idiot running to a club with a printout and demanding "exactly the same" service. So, for example, if there´s a girl that does not want to DFK everybody (but, of course, me... ;) ), I do not write about DFK.
6. If the girls want to know, what I wrote about them, I tell them. If the girls want to know what other guys wrote about them, I answer: "Ask them!" or "Who´s that guy?" I am not responsible for other people´s reports and I am not entitled to talk about other people´s reports with the girls.
Now, shiatsus´ experience (his postings were always perfect) shows, that all these "rules" can´t eliminate negative reactions at 100%. Some women work under enormous pressure, and they just need a valve...
But if a woman decided to use you as a valve, you don´t have to write reports. It´s enough to show up in a club wearing a towel round your hips... :(
Nevertheless I agree that we shouldn´t tell the girls to much about the things that are posted in the Forum. If a girl is interested in the details written here, give her the Forum´s URL. She can become at least a viewing member and have a look at the reports for herself. If she can´t manage this, she will never understand what you are trying to tell her.
But never, never, never stop posting here just because a woman complains!!!
I headed to Pohlheim for my first visit at World since September yesterday and arrived there at 3:00 p.m. I saw just a few men, but many women at the first look into the hall. I didn´t know more then 50% of the female providers even from seeing. But some of the new girls are really worth a look! About 90% of the new providers come from Romania, and about 90% of the new romanian girls can´t speak in acceptable english nor german.
A short list of the girls I recognized (and can remember):
Andrea/Romania
Celine/Croatia
Christina/Poland
Cindy/Czech
Daniela/Romania
Diana/Romania - new
Elisa/Romania
Jasmin/Romania
Julia/Germany
Julia/Romania
Larissa/Romania
Magda/Romania
Miracle/Cuba
Olga/Russia
Sandra/Romania - new
Steffi/Czech
Tamara/Czech
I had lots of laughs with friends and a very nice and playful session with
name: Jasmin
hair: blonde, shoulder-length
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim, curvy, B-breast
origin: romanian
born: ~ 1983
icluding everything 50 Euros can buy. Highly recommended for the friends of playful GFE.
In general, the atmosphere was very low. As I was told, Wednesday was the third weak day in row. Hopefully the WSG-Mongers-Thanksgiving-Convention will cheer the girls up and cause a better atmosphere.
After reading Novize's post, I was thinking of stopping by World on Sunday afternoon to see how the club is. I realize that Oase may be the best place to be, but as I haven't been to World yet, perhaps it would be nice to meet up with some fellow mongers as well. PM me if you're interested...
This is followng up on the thread regarding posting your experiences:
I have a slightly different take. The information exchange on this board gives all of us an incredible advantage when it comes to dealing with girls. It also rewards good service from the girls, because word gets around. And it punishes bad service. So its a real win-win situation for all of us to post all of our experiences.
And I know that at least a few of the girls read these posts; so they know that information is exchanged. It makes the whole business much more predictable, more enjoyable, and also very much safer for all of us.
But there are a couple of things we have to avoid:
1. Avoid identifying yourself to the providers by your board name. It's ok to let other wsg members know who you are when you are in the club, but you take a risk when telling the girls. On another board, one buddy of mine made very detailed postings about all of the girls in his favorite club, including quotes form conversations with the providers. While this made for a great read for all of us, the girls identified him and then treated him so bad because of this that he swore off posting altogether. (at least under that name ...)
2. Do not tell the girls the information that you gathered about them on this board. This serves no real purpose, but can cost you ... in particular when the information on the girl was negative.
3. After haveing sex with a girl, do not tell her that you will post this. Even if the service was stellar. And sure a hell not if the service was bad. It is tempting to tell them, I know, but it can lead to unwanted confrontations.
So please keep the post coming.
euro
[QUOTE=Euro100]On another board, one buddy of mine made very detailed postings about all of the girls in his favorite club, including quotes form conversations with the providers.[/QUOTE]
Imho one shouldn´t quote the girls in postings. In most girls minds, this is seen as a betrayal of trust. It gets wven worse, if you put the girls name to it. Depending on what the girl told you, she might even get some trouble. And there´s no need to quote. " As I was told,...." gives the same information to the WSG-Members.
[QUOTE=Euro100]Do not tell the girls the information that you gathered about them on this board. This serves no real purpose, but can cost you ...[/QUOTE]
And it can cost the author, see shiatsu´s posting...
[QUOTE=Euro100]After haveing sex with a girl, do not tell her that you will post this.[/QUOTE]
I agree 100%. Under all circumstances one has to avoid the impression that he wants to blackmail a girl with the fact that he´s a forum member. This would give a bad reputation for us all.
[QUOTE=Euro100]please keep the post coming.[/QUOTE]YES!
I also know some girls who read in the (german) forums regularly. That´s a different thing. They can read comments in their context and don´t depend on partial informations. It´s nice to discuss forum-related things with these women. And you don´t have to tell them your forum name. They know it already.
But if you talk with girls not reading the forum, you will most probably cause irritations and misunderstandings. Although the girls will not understand everything, she will tell other girls, what she understood (50 % of what you said), add some horrible details to make her story more interesting and in the end we are all perverted mass murderers. Sometimes it might be nice to play with that, but it´s wiser not to do so.
FKK World are having their Christmas Party on 22nd December. Tombola etc included with a nice motorbike as the first prize.
Anyway, I'd be curious to hear people's opinions about the Christmas Parties at FKK Clubs. I have a fear that it will turn out to be a Wurst party with way too many men and not enough girls, as many might have gone home to their countries. Then again, World's theme parties are usually pretty awesome.
Opinions would be appreciated.
World will be closed on Dec. 24th
On Dec. 26th and 27th World will open at 6 p.m.
Closed again on Dec. 31st
On Jan. 1st World will open at 6 p.m.
Well, I finally had some bad experiences at World. All of my other visits have been positive, so maybe I was due for some duds.
There were fewer people than I have ever seen before. This was on a Sunday. The food was the mediocre noodles with sauce that everyone has been complaining about and to make it worse they ran out of sauce. None of the great girls I had met on my previous excellent visit were there anymore. I saw zero couch action outside of the kino.
Elena from Germany - mediocre session
She was pretty but the session was not great. She kissed only a little and didn't want to do bbbj. When I asked for it she did it, but would only lick me on the side until I asked her to put it in her mouth, which she did so only reluctantly and only in 1 inch or so. It wasnät a disaster, but I didn't want to repeat.
Jennifer/Cindy from Cyech Republic - bad session
She is tall, thin, and beautiful. She has long light brown hair which she wore in a high ponytail, giving her a bit of a Jon Benet Ramsy look.
After the bad session I asked her what her name was and she said Jennifer, but later I thought I heard another girl call her Cindy, so she may have made up a name since she could tell that I wasn't happy. There is a Cindy from Cz who is popular, but I don't see how it could be her, and there is a Jennifer that Shiatsu advises avoiding. If this was Cindy then YM sure as hell MV.
Not only was there no kissing, but I couldn't even get close to her. She tuirned her head away and was constantly pushing against me during the session. Bj was covered. She didn't want to do the positions I wanted (missionary, spoon, nothing unusual - she wanted positions that would keep me as far as possible from her). The whole time she acted rushed and unhappy. Once the session was obviously going to be a disaster I deliberately took a long time and when I was done she angrily snatched her towel to show her unhappiness.
Andrea and Melissa/Larissa, both from Romania - bad session
Andrea is gorgeous. She has long soft straight blonde hair and a great chest. She is medium/small height. When the other girl told me her name I heard it as Melissa, but Novize says that there is a Larissa from Romania, so maybe that is her. She is tall with long light hair and a great rack and is not quite as nice as Andrea, but is still atractive.
When I saw Andrea I called her over and Melissa/Larissa (henceforth Melissa) soon showed up and the two of then started a hard sell for a 2-girl session. This is always a bad sign and I said no, but then they offered to throw in the lesbian show for free, so it would be 100 Euro total for 2 girls with a show.
Well, there was a show, but it was short and not at all passionate. The bjs were covered. A couple of quick kisses at the start and then no more kissing whatsoever. The answer to almost everything I asked for was no. After the first few minutes of the session there was no more 3-way action. I was told that I could do one girl and then the other. I was already doing Andrea and I thought Melissa was a b#### and didn't want to do her anyway, so I negotiated that they would make out with each other while I finished with Andrea and that would be it. They asked me afterwards if it was good, which seemed a little clueless. I said it was just ok and now wish I had been more honest.
So by this point I had spent 200 Euros and was not happy. I had been with 4 girls and when I passed by any of them while walking around the club we didn't say hello or acknowledge one another. (Well, Elena would kind of look at me and there might be a moment of recognition, followed by a bit of discomfort, but with the others I just didn't want to get into it. ) One of the things that I have liked about this club in the past has been making friends and as the evening wears on I am constantly bumping into girls and talking to them, they try to get me to go with their friends, etc ... I had been at the club several hours and I felt like an unwelcome stranger.
But I wasn't willing to give up yet on a club that had been so good to me in the past. I became a little more careful about selecting girls. I tried to see which gilrs might be kissing in the kino (very few). I talked with girls just to get an idea of their personalities before going with them. When I was interested in a girl I would pay attention when I saw her returning from a room. Was the guy smiling?
Well, I made it out to World Sunday afternoon and I had a pretty good time. Finding the club was made easier by using my new GPS (Garmin 2610). Honestly, I don't know how I ever got along without this thing before--it's quite awesome even with using the $300 maps instead of the recommended $500 maps.
Anyways, it was nice to run into some WSG members for the first time. I enjoyed meeting you guys and I hope we can do it again some time.
As far as the quality and quantity, I was extremely impressed. For a Sunday, there were quite a few hotties there, and I had the pleasure of spending time with a absolute bomb of a Polish girl. I tell you, we had a great conversation and she has body like a Lamborghini--you just need to take it for a drive! And then there was the Czech "librarian," another attractive, albeit skinny, lady. Not to be outdone by her country mate, I finished off the day with a brunette hottie from the Czech Republic. Maybe I'm getting old, but are some of these girls legal to be in the FKK? :)
The food was fine and the facilities quite decent. I'm having a hard time deciding if Oase or World are better. I agree with our vacationing friend from the States that the lack of smoke in World is quite welcome as is the beer. But I don't care for the stairs and all the hiding places in World as much--it makes it harder to find where the girls are hiding! And like I said before: even pulling the white ball for free entry at Palace, I didn't enjoy it as much and I don't think it can hold a candle to Oase or World.
Hopefully, the exchange rate will improve--this $1.33/euro sucks!--and we WSG members can have some more fun later!
Tschüss!
i started writing this waiting for the delta check in to open at 7 am here in frankfurt this morning, i thought i would write a short preliminary account of the gobble gobble fest 2005.
this week entailed five days, three visits to oase wed, thursday and saturday and world on friday and sunday. meeting up with many old friends from three different boards, both planned meetings and surprises made for a very collegial week. comparing notes and hanging with the guys surrounded by naked babes can't be beat.
fred and i started wednesday investigations on the s bahn to oase, and then we were joined by the ringleader and instigator ortos, professor of couchology on thursday again at oase. thursday also saw a fun surprise with travelling male and desert fox- a local. friday, ortos drove fred and i to world. the illustrious carnal and desert fox joined us arriving from points east and south and we had a grand reunion. ortos likes to keep moving and explore and compare clubs depending on the vibe. i prefer to settle in to a club for the day so on friday, when fred and ortos left world around 9 pm or so to return to oase, i remained. saturday, ortos and i met shagmaster at a frankfurt pub, in for a day trip from the isles, for a trip to oase. sunday, my last nuight and the first that i felt 100% physically, it was back to world, with ortos and i picking up mr plug at his hotel for the big ignatz wsg friends get together with carnal, desert fox. i was glad to meet for the first time this night novize and his friends as well as 22acacia.
i have to say that despite bigger lineups and variety and greater numbers of girls at oase, i still much prefer the fkk world experience. oase is just oppressively hot and smokey except at the pool area. unfortunately i had a case of travellers diarrhea this trip and the air at oase was making me physically ill. the sauna helped. the strobe lights during the dance performances will make you apopleptic. to me oase is was this week a crowded meat market while fkk world is a luxurious gentlemens club. no one moves a mop in the oase toilets and lockers all night and it is pretty rank. world is constantly cleaned all night. the rooms are better at oase though some are hot others have aircon. i usually tend to stick to the vip rooms in world. at oase, the bar staff was stressed and slow on saturday. sometimes no ice, no towels. all the girls seemed to dissappear into and remain in rooms by 11 pm on saturday. wednesday and thursday the ratios were more manageable but by 2 am it got hard to get a room with up to seven couples waiting on saturday. i witnessed many blow jobs as couples waited for rooms on the couches and alcoves near the upstairs showers. i did see more couch action at fkk world in two nights than at oase for three since oase was more crowded couch was subdued. i myself did a great couch threesome at world with two polish girls- more on that later.
the food at oase was good enough and served from 5 pm until around midnight- one night it was hamburgers, fries, and vegetable dumplings, another it was sweet and sour chinese chicken buffet with rice, slaw, veggies and spring rolls and another chicken cutlet and potatoes. the food at world i thought was incredible this week. it starts at noon with eggs cold cuts yogurt cereal brunch. dinner was varied, soup, 5 salads, breaded chicken bolognese, or great imho sloppy joe with brown sauce, spuds, noodles, etc. later say 1 am they brought out wursts and more potato salads and bean salad everything very fresh and wholesome if not quite gourmet. even until 3:45 am on sunday, 15 minutes to closing time at world they brought out crackers, grapes, cheese and cold cut platters. even had a pizza on friday night- that lasted about 5 minutes.
we pretty much confirmed that oase is nuts right now and world is quiet. imho its a damn shame. oase is packed with girls and sometimes too many customers, some girls said they were afraid of some of these guys. world was pretty quiet on friday and very quiet on sunday. i felt very sad for all the nice young girls i know and love at world- there were so few men to help them make money. the girls seem a little younger at fkk world. it was a bit depressing since i know most of the girls at world. i did enjoy my new experiences at oase- i'll get to that in the session reports soon but i really had a hard time chilling there to look at the girls. i do like the oase club however and will go there more when the weather is nice. i like the love chair scene at night.
a special thanks to ortos, travelling male and to desert fox for all the rides to the clubs-df you really rule for hanging with me till closing sunday night. i caught the 4:45 s bahn stopping at every whistle stop from grosse karben okarben ukarben, and karben karben. about 25 stops it was cool. i dig checking out the german commuters- heck i've become one of them.
next:
lets talk about girls.
beffen 1
i am looking to venture out to world from frankfurt proper during my stay dec. 16-19. can i take a train to a station nearby and then a taxi? if so which train from the hbhf and which station to get off, how long would it be. how close would the station be to world via taxi etc..
lastly, as a first timer to world but not a first-time fkk fun seeker by any means are there any specific suggestions to maximize a fun-filled day at world? when is the best time to arrive on a thursday or friday, better spots in the club to adventure through and of course any recent lovelies to look out for. any other advice is appreciated.
speedman
Arriving at 1 p.m. I found the place nearly empty. The situation became better in the early afternoon with the advent of the night shift.
I celebrated my first session of the day with the well.known
Name: Andrea
Hair: black, long
Size: ~ 1,70 m
Figure: slim, B/C-breast
Origin: czech
Born: 1982
I have been togehter with Andrea very often since I got to know her in February, and I had great times with her. But this time it was mostly a routine job. Still high above standard, but disappointing compared with the sessions I had had with her before. Maybe my expectations were too high, so I think I have to blame me, not her.
After that session I ran into the first WSG-members, later I got to know some other guys from here. You all were a very nice fellowship, I hope to meet you again soon.
In the late evening I had my first session ever with
name: Julia
hair: artificially blonde, long
size: ~ 1,05 m
figure: slim, B-breast
origin: romanian
born: ~ 1982
tattoes/piercings: tattoed back, pierced bellybutton.
I had never approached this girl before because of her slightly arrogant touch. A big mistake! This young lady provides a very nice GFE with DFK, wonderful BBBJ, DATY and sex in different positions and earns a honest recommendation from my side. She plans to be at home over Christmas, but I hope to meet her again before.
A second appointment with Andrea failed, she was occupied. But remembering my impressions from our first date, I wasn´t really angry about that.
[QUOTE=Shiatsu]Beffen
Thanks for your post, It's a shame to think that wsg members actually are insensitive enough to read posts back to the girls - although sometimes as you say it may actually end up good. It seems that there is something of an issue around this: two wsg members have told me in the last week that they have stopped posting detail or have had problems because other wsg members relay their posts back to the girls.
If wsg members want the forum to be really effective it is important that they do not try to make connections with girls by relating the detail of other members' posts. There are three members now that I know of - with posts totalling the best part of a thousand - who have had to make their posts less useful because of this behaviour by other wsg members
Anyway, on a more cheerful note, I'll be in the area again soon (5 and 6 Dec) and will visit World. I am thinking maybe some of the other clubs (Oase, Beach?) might be better than World - which certainly seemed, for the first time, to lack sparkle last time - so I look forward to reading your next report about the ambience at World
Shiatsu[/QUOTE]
Hi Guys!!!
I post on the UAE, Dubai forum. I have visited Germany in the past but have never visited an FKK Club in the past. I have read the FKK thread and am very tempted to visit one soon on my trip to Frankfurt in January for the textile fair in Messe.
While browsing the 2nd or third page on the FKK Oase thread, I read that these clubs are going to discriminate against Non Whites. Is this true?. Is there any kind of bias/discrimination at these clubs against Asians, which you experienced mongers may have observed/encountered there?. Guys your input, ideas, observations required. I want to enjoy these clubs, but without this hassle of being given the cold shoulder becuase of colour etc.
Additionally, are these girls tested for STD's by doctors on a regular basis?. Your views wanted. STD's can be spread by BBBJ's too.
Happy Punting,
Girls For Fun
girls for fun,
there is no discrimination against people of color, asians, arabic, turks etc- at the clubs: if so the clubs would lose half their clientele. everyone is welcome and everyone seems to have a great time. don't worry. only poor hygeine, rude or drunken behavior will cause a problem for a client. of course an individual girl might have her biases or preferences based on past experience, if so, just move on to the next hottie.
there is no mandatory std testing, it is up to the girls. i find the girls very clean and healthy. it is possible to catch chlamydia fairly easily, but this is easily treated with a single dose of zithromax.
speedman,
the regional express train from frankfurt hbf to giessen costs 11.40 euro one way and takes about 45 minutes and runs twice an hour most of the day. taxi from the giessen train station to the fkk world costs 17 euros each way. the first train in the morning back to frankfurt from giessen departs at 4:40 am so you can close the club and take a taxi at 4 am and be back in franmkfurt by 5:40 am or so.
the day shift at world is not as impressive as the one at oase but is still fine. i like to arrive around 3 or 4 pm, when the day shift is there and the night shift starts arriving. anywhere in the club is good to hang out, particularly the pool area lounge chairs where you can watch girls trolling for customers. of course, the main room is where most of the action is. couch action downstairs is frequent as well.
beffen
1. speedman - maybe i'm missing something. but it seems to me that if you read the posts back to 1 nov, i have answered this question for you. i'm not going to clog up the forum by repeating it. if you need any help which isn't on bahn.de or my previous answer pm me. as for arrival time - i would start no later than 16.00 - very quiet and you see the evening workers come on over the next two hours. but it's all a matter of preferences as to how you like to pace yourself
2. girls for fun - i can only speak for world. i know that black, asian, chinese have all had good service (i have spoken to the men and they didn't find any racism). this is not to say that some girls aren't racist - the east european girls are particularly condemnatory of gypsies for example. what really counts seemms to be whether or not you smell or are offensive in your behaviour (recently a member posted about someone who thought there was racism because the girls didn't seem to want him - in fact the reality was that he smelt.
btw - whilst it was nice of you to repeat my post, could i suggest to all members that the "quote" facility on the forum be used only when relevant since otherwise the forum gets cluttered up. also maybe it's not a good idea to post the same question in multiple places. since you've posted it in multiple places i assume that yo will read all those threads and realise that your questions about stds have been the subject of very recent discussion under gerneral info so don't need answering again
3. beffen - thanks for the helpful thoughts on world/oase pros and cons
4. catalyst - cindy is blonde, straight hair, tall, glasses. jennifer is slim, brunette, a vague glazed look in her eyes. they often talk in passing - both from cz.
To make it simple,,
Take the S-Bahn to Giessen which leaves about every 20-30 minutes from Frankfurt Main Hbf. Cost is about 13.50 Euro each way,, total travel time ranges between 40-55 minutes depending on the train you take. I suggest the more direct route which has a lot less stops. Check bahn.de for exact departure times. Print out the schedule to make it easy for you to determine which train to take.
Once you arrive in Giessen just walk outside the station and tell the Cabbies to take you to FKK World. They all know where it is :-) Taxi should not cost you more than 15-17 Euros each way and should take about 15-20 minutes.
Quite simple !
Sorry. My keyboard screwed up in the middle of my last post so I clicked on "post" and then wasn't able to post part 2 until now.
On seeing the girl return from the room, look for a couple arm-in-arm talking and smiling. Avoid the girl who walks 8 feet behind the guy, both of them stone faced except for a hint of "I'm done now, can I please have my money" on the girl's face.
The good that I referred to below was with:
Jasmine, a beautiful 19 year old German with short blonde hair.
I asked her if she wanted me to tell people about her on the internet and she got all giggly.
Carmen, a beautiful dark haired Romanian.
I didn't mention the internet to her, so I'll limit my description.
Still a good club, but not as wild as it was a year ago. I'll be a little more careful there from now on.
Shiatsu - It must have been Jennifer then. She had a distinct hairstyle with a high pony tail when I was there, but I suppose that could change from day to day. I think I saw Cindy too; she has a schoolteacher look that is somewhere between sexy and out of place.
hi guys,
after the great evening at oase i drove up to fkkw on thursday night. hard to find, even with the printed instructions from their website.
while i enjoyed the chill-out and pool area downstairs i find the upstairs room a little cold and unfriendly. there were not a lot of girls, less customers, and a strange atmosphere. my impression was that many of the girls were quite frustrated and even a bit aggressive in their approach.
after enjoying the sauna and the jacuzzi i met ivetta (?) from the czech republic: middle height, nice cs, brown hair. we had a good toime on one of the sofas in the tv room and then went to one of the rooms. nice gfe with dfk, bbbj and looong fs in many positions, which she said she enjoyed - i definitely did.
when she heard that i was a massage therapist she asked me for a massage, but since she expected me to pay for another 30 mins to do that we didn't have a deal here. i don't know if this was due to pressure to make money or to restrictions on using the rooms??
then i was hanging around downstairs, relaxing and having short excursions to the upstairs room, but i didn't find another girl where it really "clicked". many of the girls just were too thin or too young for my taste. i might have done another session with ivetta, but she was with someone else and only came upstairs when i was already dressed to leave. i got a nice good-bye kiss though.
one good session, but overall a bit of a disappointing experience after all the reports i'd read. at least i found my way straight home to the hotel that night (as opposed to the night before).
stiff6
[QUOTE=Catalyst] When the other girl told me her name I heard it as Melissa, but Novize says that there is a Larissa from Romania, so maybe that is her. She is tall with long light hair and a great rack and is not quite as nice as Andrea, but is still atractive.[/QUOTE]Trust your ears... ;)
Your girl calls herself Melissa.
Larissa has long, dark hair, not a perfect figure (in my eyes), but she is known for good service.
I am a long time Brazil fan. I go a lot and have never had a bad time there. I will continue to go but have decided to try the German Fkk scene for a change of pace. Are the Fkk clubs kind of close to each other? Do taxi drivers generally know where they are located? In Brazil, the termas (clubs) are mostly in Copacabana or the surrounding towns. I was just wondering how Germany is set up. I have been reading that 50 euro is the standard price. If someone could give a general low down on how it works there it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
THE WOLF
DO NOT PRINT THIS :-)
Too bad I had to even write the statement above BUT it has become a little problem here with this board of late,, This is basically a "Mens Club" so lets keep it that way !
I returned to Frankfurt last week after a two month hiatus. I had just trained up from my excursion to Budapest and Vienna and was very anxious to hang out in the Country Club of Sex for a few nights. Walking the streets of Budapest and Vienna were beautiful BUT those cities lacked a certain "SEX APPEAL" that overcomes you while in the Frankfurt area. BTW, I am not referring to the City itself,, Frankfurt is hardly a sexy City :-)
I arrived at World last Friday around 18:00 to meet up with Beffen, Ortos, and a few other friends from various msg boards. I was hoping that the Local Expert Novize would take some time away from his work but I know understand how the German men justify their work ethic,, work work work, sex sex sex ~ What a life ! As I entered the club I noticed the Christina from Poland prancing around the entry, next I see Andrea wrapped in a towel, then Betty from Cuba. Three of my favourite girls without even entering the bar area :-) I get to my locker and notice this 6'8" stud emerging from teh shower area, Mr. Beffen I presume ? After showering I enter the bar area to find a fairly relaxed atmosphere, not too many guys yet and the evening shift is slowly filtering in. I find Ortos and Fast Freddy exhchanging notes and exchange greetings. These guys are on their 2-3 straight night of mongering already and proceed to fill me in alittle on their various experiences at Oase and World. I turn around to check out the club and notice Betty headed over to see me, gives me a tight hug, a few kisses and informs me that she has been "HOT" waiting for me :-) She has to sit down with a client and have dinner but tells me not to move,,she will be right back. After a few more minutes with the Boys Betty grabs my arm and says "vamanos" and off we go. We spent the first 20 minutes chatting before I finally start groping her fine little chasis. I spent 1 1/2 hours with her reaquainting myself with her before I had to excuse myself to go eat.
Too bad the food was such shit. For the rest of the night I enjoyed the environment, had a session with Jasmine from Romania, and finished the evenging with Andrea (Czech) My session with Andrea was the best of the night, go figure ? We are both Czech in origin so we have some great chemistry, what a awesome women !
I spent Saturday wandering around Limberg with a few guys I met and then headed up to World FKK again to enjoy the sights. I had a great session with Betty again, relaxed thru most of the early evening before I ended up with
a very beautiful Dark Romanian girl. Not the service I get from Andrea but
the eye candy was awesome. The club was packed by Midnight, same M.O
as any other Saturday. I checked out of World around 2:00 A.M after spending 9 hours in the club,, that was enough.
Sunday I met up with a few other WSG and Ignatz posters but only had one session, with Betty. She was animated as usual but got a little to comfortable with her situation with me. She told me that she was "yealous" of the sessions I had without her, hard to believe hat the girls get that way but Human nature dictates under these circumstances. This was my last eveing at World and I was tired, the meeting of the Mongerer's was fun, what a crowd. Sitting around the Giant Table, exchanging info, meeting new
WSG posters, and having the girls come over to each of their respective Boyfriends was fun to watch. We need to do a FKK World Survivor game,, that would be intersting.
Monday I ended up at Oase, with some regrets. I like the girls, had three great sessions. Two with the Polish Mafia (Valentina) and the last one with a hot blooded Latina from Bolivia (Karina). All in all a good trip, too bad the place is such a dive (except for the newer rooms). I will come back here sparingly, not my first choice but after three straight nights at World, I needed a change of venue, and selection :-)
I will return in three short weeks, look forward to meeting more of you,
Gutten tag,
Carnal1
So what do you guys think the party will be like on the 22nd?
It's been awhile since my only visit to World, but the food was ok back then. Has it really declined that much?
Can't wait to get there.
NB
"Sunday I met up with a few other WSG and Ignatz posters but only had one session, with Betty. She was animated as usual but got a little to comfortable with her situation with me. She told me that she was "yealous" of the sessions I had without her, hard to believe hat the girls get that way but Human nature dictates under these circumstances."
It's about the money, not about the relationship. Otherwise, shouldn't you be jealous of her spending time with other clients like myself? LOL!
[QUOTE=NastyBoy]So what do you guys think the party will be like on the 22nd?
It's been awhile since my only visit to World, but the food was ok back then. Has it really declined that much?
Can't wait to get there.
NB[/QUOTE]The few times I have been to an event at World, I was very dissappointed. Most parties at Fkks are not really special. We come to these places for sex, selection is what it is about. When there is a special convention, many girls will arrive for such an event. It makes the place crowded, but the selection will be good. On the other hand, a crowd will mean long waits for rooms and girls will be more interested in keeping the sessions as short as possible. So, I would not recommend the special events. They are merely promotional activities to drum up business at slow times. In general, I found my last visit to World very disappointing. The girls were too aggressive and the attitude poor.
Looking for some advice. Been to Atlantis and Oase a couple of times each, enjoyable times all. Have four nights in FRA coming up next month. Don't plan to use a car, good at trains.
Nights that are up in the air are Saturday and Sunday. Want to do World one of those nights, Oase the other. Any thoughts on which club for which night? Quality of girls on a given night better at one or the other? Crowds? Food at both clubs both nights? Any issues getting a taxi at Friedrichdorf (for the Oase trip) or Giessen (for World) on a Sunday afternoon?
Plan to arrive around 3-4pm, leave 10-11pm to get back on the DB.
Friday night is at the Palace due to late arrival in to FRA. Monday night for whichever of the three I like best!
Thanks for pointing out anything I should consider.
Oase has the largest selection of girls at the moment.
World has a nicer atmosphere and better facilities for relaxing before, between and after the sessions.
Food is not a reason to visit any of both clubs. Palace serves the best food.
Both clubs can be very busy on a Saturday night, and Sunday is more quiet in both clubs. Maybe girls at Oase are tired on Sunday (if they have been busy on Saturday).
I don´t like the atmosphere at Oase, so this club gets no recommendation from my side. But that´s just a matter of my personal taste.
If you really want to spend four days in a row mongering, I would suggest
- Palace on Friday evening
- FKK-Beach on Saturday
- FKK-World on Sunday
- Oase on Monday (it shouldn´t be too crowded at Oase on a Monday)
Monday is the weakest day of the week in every club, but you should still find a satisfiying variety of girls at Oase. I´m not sure about that in any of the other clubs.
Taxis are availabe all night long, but that might be an expensive experience, especially when going to World. Take a look at the FKK-World section for finding hints how to get there. Shiatsu and others gave very good and detailed descriptions how to get there.
Akibono,
thanks for the feedback. which club do you prefer these days?
NB
[QUOTE=NastyBoy]Akibono,
thanks for the feedback. which club do you prefer these days?
NB[/QUOTE]Atlantis is closed
World is not recommended. Last visit was very disappointing because of the pushy girls.
Oase is the place. Best selection of girls. Renovated rooms. But facilities are just ok.
Your experience will largely be dependent on whether the girls you meet are what you expect. I find that Oase is consistently the best these days. I used to enjoy Atlantis because they had the best selection of girls which were the most beautiful. Oase is not that easy to find if you have not been there before, but it is considerably closer than World.
we were very nervous but cordelia (mrs shiatsu) wanted to see what world was like.
we are not giving names of girls generally since some wsg members repeat details to the girls referred to - the girls who nervous enough about us coming anyway and repeating details could mess up things for cordelia in future as she hopes to go back. if any member we know or have previously pmd wants to know they can pm us and we will say
shiatsu went there around 15.00 and spent some time with his previous aquaintances x and y (four sessions so far with y and he still hasn´t come!!). cordelia arrived around 19.00, with novize acting as an entertaining and informative guide and mentor. many thanks to novize - again. when we left cordelia gave him a big hug and kiss - which all the girls in the room watched. they will now all be wondering what secrets novize has and how many other women he has hidden away. cordelia is very flattered that he was happy to be seen with her
unlike sunday a few weeks ago there were alot of girls and guys. about 30 to 40 of each. it felt really busy. however as catalyst said recently it no longer has the friendly atmosphere where the girls spend a lot of time just being friendly (unless you have the flirting charms of novize). many of the girls do not speak english so talking is difficult.
cordelia was disappointed that the attire for men , towels and flipflops, puts them at a disadvantage in the glamour stakes. even johnny depp would look less than sexy. what surprised her was that even as a guest, wearing a towel around her hips, there was some interest from customers. the light is very flattering or the men leave their glasses in the lockers! in retrospect she wishes she had taken up on the interest. it was very unexpected.
cordelia hopes to go back again on a more prepared basis to enjoy any men who might be interested in her and have 50euros to spare - some of her followers from beverly come from frankfurt so you never know! if anyone has any helpful thoughts about this then please pm us. so far we have been touched by the sensitive responses we have had from wsg members
the girls were very nice - not aggressive or unpleasant. they all checked cordelia out. one apologised for staring (her customer had asked her who the new girls was!). x and y both waved and smiled.
we were all three approached by a large russian girl who draped herself all over cordelia and novize. we declined. novize indicated to us that he might be forced to find a nice man in orer to escape this girl's clutches! she spoke no word of anything but russian and seemed totally baffled by us wanting to speak english, german, or french. can´t imagine why all world customers don´t speak russian. we were a bit sad - how did she end up in a place where she was so isolated and at sea. normally the girls do seem to be there willingly and able to leave when they want, but sometimes it is more complicated. x indicated that she was not fully free to leave whenever she felt like it. but then we don´t know if everybody always tells the whole truth
cordelia thought the food was awful. the girls were not the expected range of supermodel 10s - they turn out to be real people, many of them very young and gauche, making a brave try in strange circumstances for them. as a worker there cordelia thought it must be very boring waiting hours for a man to approach - the men did not normally approach any girls - with so many girls they all begin to look equally attractive (or not) and the girls do not go after the men (apart from andrea, and viagra (of unmistakeable profile!)
shiatsu was scared about taking his wife there, what surprised him was that she fitted in very well - attractive and sexy and worth a 50 euros chance (but then he is biased). she gave off strong sex worker pheronomes or something - not the reluctant wife image at all. somehow the girls all looked more sexy when cordelia was there as well to share the fun. he went another day without her and didn´t find it as much fun - noone to share comments about the girls good features. cordelia only fancied one of the girls but didn´t have 50 euros to spare (women come free at beverly - her main haunt)
some girls were worried about her being there - until they saw her. we think it was ok for them because they saw that not all wives condemn them. y said very nice things to shiatsu about cordelia
shiatsu also went another day -and saw the first sexy poledance in his life. magda is superb - especially in her red platforms. he was there later than normal - around midnight the place gets more lively as the bored girls try to keep themselves awake by dancing, playing a few games etc. but even then the girls do not spend time going after men and spending time with chitchat and chillout on the couches. there are so many petty rules that the girls end up just moochiing around - they are not allowed to lay down, go downstairs without a man, go swimming etc - in summer it is hard to enforce these rules outside so the atmosphere is better. we saw one girl roundly told off for laying down after she had hurt herself badly by walking into a table. this attitude compares badly to fkk beach
hope this report has been of some interest or use.
if your wife wants to go to world then there are no dangers there.
cordelia and shiatsu
Has anybody been in FKK World near stuttgart?
Is that like FKK World Frankfurt?
Sunday, Dec. 5th, was a special day for me because I had the pleasure to meet Cordelia for the first time - and Shiatsu again. And a long missed lady from Czech Republic...
I arrived at 1 p.m. and after a nice shower I immediately ran into
name: Katharina
hair: black, shoulder-length
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim, B-breast
origin: czech
born: 1982
tattoes: right schoulder, stomach, rump, ankle
I had missed this girl for weeks, and so I didn´t let her go away. We found a nice place near the bar in the lower floor to talk about the things happening since we had been togehter for the last time until now. After a good, interesting small talk we went to one of the rooms for an even better physical "reunion" - great sex and emotions money can´t buy. Cloud 7 without return ticket - and without any (non-financial) obligations. That´s why I love FKK-clubbing that much...
Shortly after this first session Shiatsu arrived. While we sat at the bar chatting, his "X" came along and very soon I was on my own again... ;)
At this time the night shift had already arrived and I took a look around for the records. I recognized:
- Alex, Romania
- Andrea, Czech Republic
- Anna, Romania
- Barbara, Hungary
- Christina, Poland
- Daniela Romania
- Diana, Romania
- Gabriela, Poland
- Hanna Hungary
- Julia, Germany
- Julia, Romania
- Katharina, Czech Republic, see above
- Larissa, Romania
- Magda, Romania
- Nadja, Germany
- Olga, Russia
- Sarah (Viagra), ??
and lots of new faces. The providers st World still seem to rotate heavily.
Unfortunatlely, many new girls have no english or german language skills. Get them, screw them, pay them, leave them - that´s not the way I like it. :(
At 6:15 p.m. I left the club to pick Cordelia up and drive her to World. The next hours were some of the most interesting ones in my mongering-"carreer"!
First I would like to say that Cordelia and Shiatsu are two very interesting people and so a very interesting couple. I really enjoyed the time I spent with them at World! Cordelia made a very good impression between the pro´s - definitely more than just a "50 Euros chance".
Second it was very interesting to watch the reactions on Cordelias appearance... :)
At a certain point I had to interrupt my observations for taking care about Katharina again, before she left the club for this night. Another great session, more intimate, and relaxed than the first one.
After Cordelia, Shatsu and Katharina had left, I went into some "extreme couch-potatoing" before looking out for my last victim for that night. Finally I chose
name: Magda
hair: blond, shoulder-length
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim, B-breast
origin: Romanian
born: ~1984
tattoes/piercings: pierced nose and bellybutton
Because she was one of the few girls not looking bored or bad-tempered.
Magda didn´t deliver a real GFE (OK, I´m spoilt by my experiences with Katharina, the closest thing to love money can buy) but performed significantly above club-standard. So are her language skills (in english and german) and we had lots of fun before and after the session. Recommendet.
I left the club with a lot of new impressions and interesting experiences shortly before closing time.
Novize,
Nice to hear that your ran into your "Princess Katharina". She is quite intoxicating as is her little Cousin. I met shiatsu as well sitting around the Dinner table on my very first vistit to World. I hardly recall much from that night "except" my introducion to Andrea (Cz) in the Kino.
I am looking forward to a return trip after the 1st to live " la vida loca" with a beautifull Bolivian Girl at Oase and my chiquita from Cuba at World,,, add in a few lovely Czech and Romanians and I call that a grand entry into 2005.
Bringing a wife into an FKK,,, hmmm,, I was pretty close last visit just walking around the club :-)
tot ziens,
C1
Katharina´s "little Cousin" Nikki decided to stay in Prague and work at the "Diamond".
Remy:
FKK-World 2 is a renovated brothel, much smaller than World 1 and hasn´t got it´s relaxing atmosphere.
It´s like comparing a "Burger King" with a good restaurant.
When you get into this area, try the new "FKK-Haus Fellbach" ( [url]http://www.fkk-haus.com[/url] ) in Stuttgart-Fellbach. It seems to be the better choice. But no Club in Baden-Württenberg" is really close to one of the big three clubs in the Rhein-Main-area.
Thank you Novzie for your answer,
May you also tell me what is the average number of girls we could find in these clubs?
Thanks
At both clubs (World 2 and FKK-Haus Fellbach) you can expect to find 15 - 20 girls on a normal day. The numbers a varying, but that is normal in new clubs. Many girls have a look, hope for more money and stay - or leave again.
Since we´re heading towards Xmas, I expect the numbers to go down in the next days - most girls will come back mid to end of January.
Does anyone have information or first-hand experience with a place called Cleopatra's?
I am from the USA and met three young-ish Americans (late 20's or early 30's) on my recent visit to World. One of them had been living in the Giessen area for several years and said there were places in the area similar to World, but cheaper. He mentioned Cleopatra's, a place called Orka's (I don't know if that's the correct spelling) and one other place. (I heard something similar from a taxi driver on a ride to Oase: a cheaper place near Oase, called Blue Lagoon, which I experienced and have posted about under that thread).
On the taxi ride back to my hotel, the driver said he knew where Cleopatra's was located and that it is in fact cheaper than World. It was too late for me that night to go check it out, but I did take a taxi ride to Cleopatra's early the next afternoon.
Cleopatra's is located outside of Giessen, about as far away as World, but in a more northerly or north-westerly direction, in a place where the road signs said "Wittenberg" and "Wismar" (and the taxi driver seemed to confirm that one or both of those were names of the town and/or neighborhood we were in). Cleopatra's is right across the street from a church (I think a Catholic church).
The sign said Cleopatra's, but the place was closed and the sign outside said they don't open until 6pm. The sign also had the word "Privat", which I assume means that they are a bit more selective about who they allow in and that you might be sent away if you knock at their door during club hours.
I went to World instead and did not go back to Cleopatra's. But for planning future trips, I would like to find out more about the place from anyone who can give information about it (or Orkas, or other smaller clubs). Also, I'd appreciate any information on the implications of the word "Privat" in connection with a new person showing up at their door.
Another Sunday at World. I arrived at 1 p.m. and faced a, let´s say, very relaxing atmosphere. Nearly alone beneath women...
I met two german friends by chance, a third one by appointment. Later that day I had the pleasure to meet three americen guys (at least one is a forum member, but I didn´t ask for the Nickname). I had nice and interesting conversations with the guys and it showed once more that it is much more fun to visit a club in a group than going there alone.
The day started badly. Katharina refused to talk with me. I don´t know, why. And, to be honest, I didn´t ask. Although Katharina in my eyes is the most classy woman there, I found a couple of great alternatives:
- Alex, Romania
- Andrea, Czech Republic
- Andrea, Romania
- Betty, Cuba
- Carina, Romania
- Celine, Croatia
- Christina, Poland
- Daniela, Romania
- Diana, Romania
- Elisa, Romania
- Hanna, Hungary
- Julia, Germany
- Julia, Romania
- Katharina, Czech Republic
- Larissa, Romania
- Leona, Slovakia
- Luana, Romania (isn´t that a nice, typical romanian name?)
- Magda, Romania
- Naomi, ??
- Olga, Russia
- Sarah (Viagra), ??
- Tina, Croatia
- Yvette, Romania
and about the same number of nameless girls.
Having just recovered from a heavy cold this wide variety of girls confused me a little bit and so I decided to have some more cups of coffee and intersting talks.
Not being at the club for amusement only, I finally approached
name: Leona
hair: blond, long
size: ~ 1,55 m
figure: slim, A/B-breast
origin: Slovakia
born: ~ 1980
tattoes/piercings: none
Leona had worked at Atlantis until it´s first closing, came to World afterwards (I learned to know her at that time) and returned to Atlantis when it reopened. And now she´s back at World.
Leona is a full-pro. Charming and intelligent, she will ask for a room after a short small-talk. In the room she deliveres excellent service, being sensible and flexible enough to anticipate her client´s wishes. Her tasted experise ranges from GFE to "sportive exercise". Satisfaction guaranteed, highly recommended!
Having just recovered from a cold, I didn´t plan any further action for that day and spent a nice time with Christina and some friends just fooling around.
Since there were hardly any male customers, this seemed better for the girls than just sitting around...
But later in the evening, when I was sitting at the Cocktail-Bar, I was approached by
name: Carina
hair: black, long, curly
size: 1,55 - 1,60 m
figure: slim, B-breast
origin: Romania
born: ~ 1982
tattoes/piercings: tattooed right arm and belly, pierced nipples and bellybutton.
Carina is a "pornstar", and normally she behaves like that. But at that time she was very relaxed, sat beside me and played with Novize jr. while we enjoyed our drinks.
After some time she convinced me that Novize jr. wasn´t all dead and guided me to the mirror-room. This seems to be her favourite place and she immediately started posing and watching herself in the mirrors, not forgetting to take care of me and my little companion. I enjoyed a great sight and a great performance, when she gave a BBBJ, not forgetting the "seed plants" and the surrounding area. After that, Novize jr. got covered and we continued with a quit sportive intercourse. Exactly the right thing for the late evening! Also highly recommended!
After showering I slept some time before I left the club and headed towards the office.
Looking forward for the 4th in Advent,
Novize
Stinky,
Don't know this particular club, but the type you describe are not going to be selective at all. The usually don't get enough customers and let anyone in.
Hi Novize,
So the girl numbers didn't seem to be too bad, despite it being quite close to Christmas?
Any indication of what it will be like at the Christmas Party on the 16th?
Thanks
Novize,
What a lineup! I have not hit World in awhile but before I head off for my Xmas vacation, I just may have to stop in for a look-see.
Carina is hot! You and your junior partner are fortunate.
Cheers,
Dedalus
In fact it was a good lineup for a sunday, but most of the girls seemed to be bored and bad-tempered. The atmosphere was low, because there weren´t enough male cash-cows available. Most of the women preferred to stay on their own and to bemoan themselves instead of approaching the available men. So don´t expect too much, when you go there. At sunday, less women would have made a better experience over all.
I´m not a clairvoyant, but I believe that many girls will stay until Dec. 22nd,, whes the last big party for this year will be celebrated. There´s lots of money to earn on Dec. 17th and 22nd. And if the girls don´t think about this themselves, their managers will.
Novize has been trying to make the point that the girls no longer seem to be very interested in approaching men in a friendly way.
I would like to stress that this is how it seems to me as well. I had two visits only ten days or so ago and on each occasion many of the girls seemed bored and uninterested.
There were of course some notable exceptions and these I was happy to go with
Whats Andrea like these days?
Dedalus
Novize,
Sunday is an interesting day. There are very few male customers and the number of girls is only slightly reduced from Friday and Saturday. Coupled with the fact that the girls are tired from the long week and must hang around when there are so few men, it is no wonder they are cranky and bored, or "boring" as cute Magda likes to say. I feel for the girls when it is so very slow- even though the odds are great for you to get a given girl AND a VIP room when its that slow, I want to see happy young girls. I'm such a World hound, I went down your last lineup and counted nine girls who I have been with, 5 repeatedly, and three more that I know but haven't done.
Speaking of Magda, it is interesting that it took you until now to try her. When the ballerina does her stretches on the pole, I just fall for her. I went with her my first trip and though she was a bit bossy and insistent in the room and offers no couch action, and I know there is no GFE there at all, I still want her. She doesn't talk to me much anymore since I declined her when she had a cold one day. I agree also with your assessment of Leona- she is a class act- the consummate sportive GFE, and cute as a button too. Been there three times, twice at World and once at Atlantis before they closed recently.
Hi Dedalus, did you mean Andrea from Czech or from Romania? No, I know you mean Czech, she is radiant- a bit less eye makeup lately and she still pours herself all over you. I am crazy for not going with her last trip- during the slowest times even Andrea was available occasionally.
I never did post about my last trip over Thanksgiving week so I might as well do it briefly here. One highlight was a threesome with Christina and Gabrielle both of Poland. I was sitting on the DJ stand couch listening to my restless traveller's stomach make noisesas it had been doing for 2 days now. All of a sudden, Gabrielle joins me and starts the sales pitch. I explained I was having trouble and we talked and caressed a bit when all of a sudden krystina plops down beside us. Now I have two gorgeous girls making out with me and unwrapping and manhandling beffy who was pointing north and throbbing to the beat. After 10 minutes of this, I aked them to see if a VIP was available. One was not so they said "we just have to wait" whereupon Krystina climbs up on the couch and sits on my face and grinds her baby cooch in my face as Gabrielle rips off my towel and begins a DTBBBJ as I grabbed for whatever orifice or erogenous zone I could. Then they switched and then they did a double BJ while I massaged each ones privates simultaneously. I'll wait, no problem. After another ten minutes of this , we got the three mirrored room with the sleigh bed- room nummer 1 IMHO, where the girls proceeded to drive me nuts- ach girl saying something in Polish to the other and then they took it up yet another notch- for thirty minutes double teaming me into ecstasy.
At the half hour mark, they suggested a smoke and drink break and being the easy going guy I am, I said sure. First Gabrielle and then Krystina left to get drinks and their smokes, Gabrielle brought a surprise- a can of whipped cream from the kitchen. I had declined the lesbo upgrade and we agreed on a straight threesome. So we enjoyed a cigarrette and our drinks and then we started the clock again with an ice cube blow job using the ice from the drinks- proceeded to make a beffen sundae with the whipped cream- licking it off me, and then one girl and myself licked the cream off the cookie of the other girls- a lesbo preview- gratis. While I pounded one doggy style, the other was busy munching and massaging and encouraging. Krystina, using her tongue, performed brain surgery on me through my ear as I pounded Gabrielle, who then played mushy suishy face with her kitty and my face as Krystina climbed aboard for some reverse cowgirl as I plugged her back.......... , well- you get the picture. It was a top session.
I also met Elise, best mate of my favorite Romanian Andrea, up close and personal for the first time- I maybe soured the session by insisting we take the VIP all the way to the right, which she claimed was too cold- but I like it cool. Elise too is a bit cool and strong willed, but the highlights were a nice turn at beffen (DATY) with digital fun and a rollicking varied cowgirl screw. She stretched the session to an hour with a cigarette but it was fun to talk to her and get to know this willowy beauty.
Of course, it's always fun with Jasmine, she took off her skirt and made a bandana of it on my head- I looked like a Gypsy version of eminem as I grinned in the mirrors of the dining room VIP room, sitting on the edge of the bed as Jasmine did her BJ on her knees.
More soon
Beffen1
[QUOTE=Shiatsu]Novize has been trying to make the point that the girls no longer seem to be very interested in approaching men in a friendly way and that they are looking upon the men as cashcows.
I would like to stress that this is how it seems to me as well. I had two visits only ten days or so ago and on each occasion 80% of the girls seemed bored and uninterested. There was no way I was going to spend money on girls who were not willing to spend a couple of minutes and a smile to attract my custom. There were of course some notable exceptions and these I was happy to go with[/QUOTE]I concur. The last time I visited some of the girls would not go away. They were that aggressive. There was a large number of Romanians who provided poor service. Basically, trying to get you off as soon as possible and then ending the session. I remembered a session with Elena (romanian). She was attractive but the session was so bad, I ended it. This is the first time I have done this at a FKK. Bad attitudes is generally an indication that business is down as well as service. It generally indicates that a club is failing.
I heard in the new year there will be some great new international talent making guest appearances at world. Maybe then the attitude will pick up.
As far as I clould see, Andrea performed outstanding as always.
She's not one of those girls being "not motivated" for work.
Andrea (Czech) is as playfull as ever.. I love it when she "purrs" like a cat !
She sure works the crowd. You rarely see her standing around the Dance floor like the rest of the girls. One of my all time favourite Girls from Europe !
I had had a session with Magda about half a year ago, when she was her first or second week at World. It wasn´t really fun, so I decided to stay away from her in the nearer future. But Magda has developed greatly since that time and I am really glad that I geve her a second chance... ;)
[QUOTE=Carnal1]Andrea ... You rarely see her standing around the Dance floor like the rest of the girls.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Andrea knows what it takes. I wish all of the girls would understand the business as well as she does. Andrea is not really that outstanding in her looks. Yes, she is a stunner, but not head and shoulders above the rest. There are several other really good-looking women at FKKW. What makes her special is her willingness to walk around all the time and ask. She also take no for an answer and simply smiles and moves on to the next guy. Taking rejections is not a problem at all for her. This is what makes her successful. (I would hire her for my sales staff instantly, if she ever were to want to quit. The same character trait also makes for great sales people.)
Contrast this to the two other prevailing attitdues of the girls: First there are the agressive and desperate types. They come on to you and will not take no for an answer. This is not so much a problem at FKKW as it is at Oase. In particular some of the, shall we say, more seasoned German workers at Oase fall into this category. They will not take a hint.
But the other extreme is just as much of a buzz-kill: most girls sit in small groups and talk with each other. While this kills time for them, I understand, it also raises the threshold for guys to approach them. Let's face it, few of us just break into these conversation groups. And so everybody keeps their distance, and nothing happens. The girls don't make money, and the guys feel neglected.
Andrea and a very few other top performers just understand what it takes. She never hangs with the other girls for extended times. Most of the time she just walks around and approaches guys in a friendly manner. (OK, OK, she also fvcks like she means it. That help, too!)
euro
I will be spending a few days at World (again) from Jan 1- early in the A.M on Jan 4. Any of you guys in town ??? Novize and I will be burning the midnight oil at World on Jan 3rd,, doing an all nighter before I head to the Airport to catch my 7:30 flight back to the States,
Gutten tag,,,
Carnal1 aka Lanrac
P.S. I will also be spending a night or two at PHG on Dec 29-30,,,stop in and say "Ho Ho Ho"....
Well, here I go again. another month, another fickenfest. This time, I easily scored an upgrade to business class since I flew into AMsterdam instead of Frankfurt, where the planes never seem to be full enough. I sat next to a young Amsterdam virgin who was planning on RLD visits so I gave him the address of this site as well as recommendations that he visit Nina, Sandra, Sabrina, and Nikola, schooled him on interview techniques and ripoff avoidance, etc. Wim was right on time and we made it to Frankfurt in just under 5 hours with no traffic jams to speak of. We quickly checked in to the Monopol and decided to head up to FKK World for the Tombola Party since intelligence from Desert Fox stated that the lineup at Oase was greatly diminshed due to the holiday departures of many girls.
Unfortunately, the roads were icy and snowy on this Wednesday afternoon and we encountered two Stau (traffic jams) on the A5, arriving at around 5:30PM after nearly two hours. The lots were both full already auguring for a crowded time, but to our surprise, though the place was much busier than normal, and occasionally there was no place to sit in the dining room, it was not a problem. My Andrea and her mate Elisa were gone and many girls were gone but there seemed to be enough. Cz Andrea was there, her last night before holiday, Karina was in fine form on the dance bar, Magda, Julia, Melissa, and many of the Romanian mafia were there. I began with a nice, passionate total GFE reunion with slim pretty Gloria of Moldavia in a VIP room. Then after a snack and a sauna, wim and I relaxed a bit. I must say that for me and probably for Desert Fox, the JAS must now stand for Julia Avoidance Society- the large butt Romanian beauty was cold and downright rude to both of us for reasons unknown. She wants you to finish in 15 minutes is probably the reason, and I cannot do that anymore.
For my second act, I sessioned for the first time with the adorable and nubile Romanian Luannna. The session was rated as a playful tease- the BJ was rough and unskilled, and everytime I went to eat her cookie, she would squirm and complain -I am kitlish. I soon figured out she meant I am ticklish and I tried to teach her the proper pronunciation. It was a fun half hour because she is so beautiful, but I would not say she is "service minded". Wim had a similar experience later in the evening. The ficken portion was OK though.
The tombola drawing was almost anticlimactic, many numbers drawn and no one to claim the number so they repeatedly had to draw. A girl won the flat screen TV, a customer won the DVD player, and some young Moroccan guy won the BMW motorcycle. As for me, I spent the tombola time admiring the ass of the Russian Playboy playmate Olga and the slim young mocha black girl. The food was better this night, filet of beef but with the usual yucky brown sauce, and a vast array of cold cuts and snacks, even some desert cakes. There were occasional waits for a room, but most of the night it was no problem. A Dutch friend from the hooker.nl board was there as well.
My final session was the best, a total GE with a Polish beauty named Inez who I had admired all night, she was very busy and was wearing a bikini even though it was not dessous. Inez seemed to love all things oral DFK, DATY etc. A great finish to a good day. Wim and I, along with the Desert Fox in his own car, departed at 4 AM closing time. The roads were still wet but not frozen, but just south of Bad Homburg on the A5 we got stuck in another Stau, a truck caught fire and the A5 was closed for 1.5 hours. We finally arrived at the Monopol at 6:30 and had some breakfsast and we slept until noon, when they called us to vacate the room.
So, Thursday midday, Wim headed back to Amsterdam while I walked through the connecting hallway and checked into the Excelsior. I went back to sleep and slept the jet lag away until 4 PM and just smoked some of the stash Wim scored for me in Amsterdam. I arranged to meet Desert Fox at Palace at 8:30.
For the story of Palace on day 2, see that thread.
beffen
Stopped by FKK World last weekend.
Was hoping to see someone special, but she was not there.
I was first convinced by two romanian hotties to do both of them at the same time. We warmed up with some sucking downstairs, then moved to a room for more BBBJ by both - interesting. Then one of them did me cowgirl style while the other kissed me, then they put on a new condom before I finished off in doggie style with the other one. Nice experience, they were both very friendly.
Later in the same day I did one of them again, the most enthusiastic one, and this was actually a better session.
The next day I met with Verena (Germany). Not a great body, but she seemed very friendly. She gave me a nice BBBJ on one of the sofas downstairs, before riding me cowgirl style on the same sofa. I like this - fucking in plain view of anyone who cares to watch. Anyway, she rode me for a while and then she finished me off with a HJ. I've never experienced this before, I actually was a little bit disappointed because I like to finish properly.
Later I did Ramona from Romania. When I suggested we have some fun on the sofa downstairs, she said "But there's no privacy" and almost insisted on going to a room. So we went to a room, where she gave me a really good BBBJ - she went very deep. We then fucked doggiestyle for a while. She was very friendly. Perhaps not the best body, but she smiled and I like that.
saturday night at fkk world, the lineup was significantly reduced from tombola night but the clientelle was also much less, so actually the place was comfortable and sessioning with the girl of your choice was easy. there were no more than 25 or 30 girls. dinner was roast duck breast, potato croquettes and the usual salads. foxman and i had supper and a sauna. then, to begin the evenings festivities, i returned first to lovely inez of poland, whose covergirl face, bubbly cheerful demeanor, and incredible ass and legs were a winning combination. we went this time to the downstairs hallway room where it was incredibly warm despite the fan, so we collapsed at the 30 minute mark soaking wet from sweat. like many polish girls, inez is shy about having her poopa eaten but i managed to get a health helping of this delicious desert. iney was delighted with her christmas presents.
after a more than one hour couch potato session. i noticed a cute brunette hanging with magda, who had a body very similar to magda, slim, girlish, smaller than magda, pert breasts riding high on a hard body, and the ass of a ten year old boy as fox likes to say. her name is hannah, aged 21, and she is from hungary. we spent a half hour in the best vip room with the sleigh bed. hanna is a great kisser, but her bj is very toothy but peppy is somewhat wide, the bj was not pleasant, but hannah is limber and fine with any position.
next came a long dry spell. i wanted to meet the lovely slim black girl but she was either surrounded by the bouncer dudes at the bar or ignored my advances, i guess i am not her type. lunana was adoring a german client, spending hours with him on the couches, at the dinner table, in a room for about an hour, and then on the couches again. i was jealous. later, when luana left him, i met the guy, a very nice fellow, who finally left at 2am. as i lay on a couch, i indicated to luana i was lonely and she jumped on my lap and soon at 3 am we retired to a room for another playful hour, with some incredible kissing and multiposition ficken, however luana needs some improvement in the bj department. we had a lot of laughs and a lot of horny sex, my kind of session. meanwhile, fox was getting to know olga, the object of his affections, on the couch. when luana and i returned from our room at 4 am, fox was still engrossed in olga so luana, who had donned knee length white boots and who really enjoyed the cd and stuffed animal i gave her, alternated pole dancing and cuddling and kissing with me sitting on the dance platform, smoking, and taking english lessons. nice to have a girl to hang with at the end of the night in the main room. luana wants a cowboy music cd next time. the other girls were jealous that santa didnt come for them, so i gave out all the rest of my cds to those girls as well.
fox finally left his new love after two hours and at 5 am we were out the door and back in his town, where i caught the 6 17 s bahn making every stop on the line, arriving
back in frankfurt at 7 am, had breakfast and booked my room for the last night, since i had nowhere to go until 6pm when world opens. in just two hours, fox and i rendezvous for the final for me boxing day session at world.
happy new year to you all.
beffen 1
Befto,
I thought World was closed on Christmas day,, sounds like Santa left a few presents for you,, you could call them "Stocking Stuffers",,, without the stockings :-)
Sorry I will missed you this trip ! I will send my regards to all your lovers at PHG next wednesday and thursday ! I have a hectic schedule,, arriving in Amsterdam on the 28th, off to Alkmaar that evening, then to PHG the next morning with our Dutch Host and The Admiral, two nights in Grefrath, then back to Amsterdam for a Party at the Kras in my Royal View Room overlooking the Dam. Withnail, Trip, and Wim will join us as well. I will be on the ICE the next morning for a straight shot to Frankfurt, then catch the Snelltrein to Giessen where I will quickly prepare for my return to World.. Three nights at World should keep me nice and warm,, kind of a nice change from walking the
frigid Wallen.
Have a safe trip home and tune in next week for some "Updates" from World.
Regards and Happy New Year,
C1
[QUOTE=Carnal1]I thought World was closed on Christmas day[/QUOTE]In Germany we celebrate Cristmas Eve ("Heiligabend") - all clubs were closed that day.
Dec. 25th and 26th are holidays also, but on 26th latest the men are looking for some less holy fun. So the clubs are closed on Christmas Eve and open on 25th and 26th - with limited opening times.
Well...just got back from a two week sex vacation in good old Deutschland, and slowly recovering from some massive jet lag. Spent all of my time at World, with the exception of one little unsuccessful trist up to FKK 39.
To begin with, this is now my favorite Club. Yes, I miss Atlantis, but this is a great replacement. I really love that huge mansion. That is a big fucking place. I spent a lot of time downstairs in the Relaxzone watching Premier 1. The atmosphere down there is really great. Service at the club was exceptional. I enjoyed all the girls with their Service t-shirts keeping the club clean and tidy. It's the little things they do to make your comfort level superior that makes it a great club. The food was ok. No complaints there. It wasn't always gourmet night like the night of the Timbola, but it was edible and filling.
Girls. Lots of girls. Lots of top girls. All of them naked as the day they were born. In two weeks, I met many. I hope I can remember them all. I do remember meeting the aforementioned Andrea from Czech, but I wasn't impressed, so I passed on her. Really, I was waiting for another session with the ever busy Karina at the time. Karina. Now that is some hot, sexy woman there. My first impression of her was Morgan Fairchild as a brunette. At that time she was heading off with some guy to the money lockers. The next time I saw her she was on a couch working some young dude. I sat on a couch opposite them and watched her work. Over and over again only one word kept going through my mind. Sex. This woman oozed sex. She had lots of it. She was very sexy indeed. Eventually she took her prey to a room. I waited for my turn. While I waited, another very lovely, skinny young girl approached me and asked me if I wanted company. She was very young, 20 or 21, can't remember which, and very pretty. Her name was Vanessa. She said she was from Italy, but as it turns out she is really from Romania with paternal background from Italy. Turns out her daddy was hot for Romanian women too. :-) We sat on the couch and chatted for awhile and eventually Karina came back downstairs with yet another victim. They headed off to the sauna. Luckily for me she came out of there alone and sat again on the couch opposite me. I told Vanessa I was interested in her and she went and got her for me/us. So now I am a happy camper. I got one pretty little Romanian/Italian honey on my right, and another very hot, Romanian, gypsy looking, mamma mia, kurva on my left. Naturally all my attention was on Karina. But Vanessa kept fondling my body and she didn't care that I was not focusing on her anymore except to fondle her in return and play with her cute titties while my mind and my attitude was working through and with Karina. The conversation got hot and sexy with Karina and eventually I asked her what I could do with her and what she did not allow. She asked what I wanted, and I told her I like to finger the pussy while I'm getting my dick sucked, but some girls don't like it. She spread her legs open right there, took my hand and said, "Finger me right here." Well that got the party going and the three of us moved to a private room. It got even better in there. Both girls could suck cock like champions, and when one wasn't sucking the other one was taking care of the upper portion of me. They talked to each other in Romanian, and, as they split up the action, that is what they were saying to each other...you take care of the top, and i'll take care of the bottom, and they would split up the time. When Karina wasn't sucking she was talking shit in my ear. Hot sexy shit. She would say, "Let's see how many fingers you can put in there. One, oh yeah. Now two....mmmm, now three...." for a second there I thought I was gonna be fisting this chick. But three was all she took and then simulated fucking my hand. When Vanessa wasn't sucking, she was playing little bondage games with me, pretending two tie my hands at the wrist and force them down while she kissed me. She was an excellent kisser. Even while Karina was giving me a hell of a bj, I kept thinking about what fantastic lips Vanessa had. So tender, but so firm. And she was a great kisser. Lots of French. It was a great threesome.
Eventually I became better friends with Vanessa and spent a lot of time with her during the two weeks. I had a couple of more sessions with Karina, but none could duplicate the experience of that threesome. In one session with her I followed someone elses session where the dude gave her a nice wristwatch. It touched her, because she wasn't all that enthusiastic with me in that session. After another lesser experience with her I stopped spending time with her and moved on to other girls.
Karina did put on a hell of a dance show on Timbola night. The girl has moves, and is a good dancer. With all that sexuality behind her, the dance was quite good. I saw another girl dance on that same pole, and she was rather awkward and amateurish. After Timbola, Karina never returned during the next week that I was there.
Timbola was a happening night. I thought the party was a great success. Staff made a hell of an effort to get the place looking very Christmassy and the food was good. Lots of dudes. Lots of beautiful girls. Sometimes there was no place to fuck. What more can you ask for????
NB
1st post here, thanks for all the stored knowledge made the trip simple and quick
I have to agree that World is bigger and better than Oase or Atlantis (now closed) Selection unfortunately was poor with only about 20ish girls - slow tuesday and a dessous night too
still a few gems present, on inquiry Andrea (Czech) is still on holiday so no luck there.
Using time honoured format
name: Melissa
hair: blond, long
size: 5' 2
figure: small petite
origin: Romania
born: 1980?
Gorgeous young girl, good conversation and very busy all night, wearing wicked black boots and not a time watcher
another great experience
name: Georgia
hair: black, curly
size: 5' 7
figure: slim, C-breast, firm firm ass
origin: Romania
born: 1982
a wicked mind and just looked to hot in a red negligee great skin and toned body. Thouroughly enjoyed our session and highly recommended
name: Anna
hair: black, curly
size: 5' 1
figure: curvy
origin: says Greece
Not the best looking but very enthustiastic and a good kisser. Had a fun session in the jacuzzi and sauna before going to a room where I had the time of my life. Very recommended for a true GFE.
Other good looking girls there that night included
Linda, Germany
Christina, Bulgaria
Inez, Poland
On the whole, despite it being a slow night I would like to return again as other regular punters told me that the place was usually sooo much better. In my book better than Oase because it is cleaner and really feels like a country club and on average the girls are better looking and not to pushy. Others - food was quite good and served constantly , even had a cheeses and crisps board put out at 3am. Cheers all thanks for postings and advice
I need some directions, guys. I'm going to be going to World in Feb. and will be coming up A63 from Kaiserslautern. Any help? Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Valmont]I need some directions, guys. I'm going to be going to World in Feb. and will be coming up A63 from Kaiserslautern. Any help? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Valmont]I need some directions, guys. I'm going to be going to World in Feb. and will be coming up A63 from Kaiserslautern. Any help? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
If you can rent a car with GPS, that is the only way to go.
NB
Valmont
We'll send you detailed route description in a few days - when we get time to write it out for you
Hope to see you while we're at World in February
Cordelia and Shiatsu
Start at Kaiserslautern in A63 direction Mainz ~ 65 km.
At junction Mainz-Sued change to A6 direction Darmstadt/Frankfurt ~ 20 km.
At junction Moenchhof-Dreieck change to A3, direction Frankfurt ~ 10 km.
At junction Frankfurter Kreuz change to A5, direction Kassel ~ 60 km.
Leave A5 at exit Fernwald.
At the exit turn right. Next possibility left, at the next crossing turn right. At the traffic light turn left. Next possibility right, then again right towards a sporting field. Stay on this street, passing a railway junction. Now you can see FKK-World left hand. ~ 10 km.
Total distance approx. 165 km. expect heavy traffic at Mainz and from Frankfurt northwards. Calculate 2 hours per tour at least.
And, of course,
have fun!
Novize
Novice, thanks!
Brothel gives profits to tsunami victims
A real-life case of the hooker with a heart of gold.
January 12, 2005: 2:34 PM EST
BERLIN (Reuters) - A German brothel owner has been so moved by the plight of survivors from Asia's tsunami disaster that she is donating part of her takings from clients.
"It's not every day you can make a charitable gesture by going to a brothel," said Mercedes Mueller, who is giving five euros ($6.60) of the 39 ($51) entrance charge clients pay.
"It's so terrible what happened there and I wanted to do something," said Mueller, who owns the Happy FKK Club in the western city of Dortmund.
Mueller said clients, prostitutes and the public had all responded with great enthusiasm to her gesture, and that about 1,300 ($1,700) had been raised so far.
"We have as much of a right to raise money as any other business," she said. "We all have a heart too. I hope it will serve as an example to others."
I had the privilege of spending a half hour with Andrea last night and I must say she was by far the best experience I have ever had with a European working girl. I have been with a few Brazilians and Thais I enjoyed more, but she was a very close second.
She had an excellent attitude the entire time we were together, starting when she first approached me through to our post coital talk. But by far what impressed me the most was the sex. True GFE throughout. She seemed to truly enjoy our time together. In fact I was very shocked when I discovered she was already very wet when I started to finger her as she was blowing me in the Kino. This condition continued throughout our time together, with her never needing to use artificial lubrication. Just the thought of this was a real turn on for me.
I will absolutely be a return customer and would encourage everyone to give her a try. You will not be disappointed!!
Trojan
We (Cordelia and Shiatsu) plan to be around World from 11 to 19 Feb inclusive. If anybody is coming to World then we'd be pleased to see you. PM with your e-mail and we will send you pix of us so you can recognise us
Some wsg members know from the Beverly posts that Cordelia enjoys participating and meeting especially wsg members. So she has decided to have a one-off adventure working (yes, working) the days at World. Never done anything like this before so it should be interesting! It should allow for a less frenetic and more intimate experience than Beverly (which we still think is great).
Shiatsu will not be around all the time - nine days at World would be too much of a good thing!!
Cordelia and Shiatsu
Just to add to the previous post, we're looking forward to meeting all the wsg members who will be around in this time.Thanks for the PMs. Should be a bit of a party!
Shiatsu and Cordelia
I picture Shiatsu standing next to Cordelia at the lockers where the men pay. Some guy hands Cordelia 50€ and she passes it on to Shiatsu to go have fun!
Peter
Cheeky!!! We enjoyed meeting you at Beverly. Hope to meet you again sometime. Cordelia will be looking after herself - having fun- my role is to try to avoid spending my own hard-earned money. I think Cordelia will be too busy to entertain me!! Should be an interesting holiday...
Shiatsu
Of course now we know why WSG has been such a nightmare the past week or so. It's all the WSG-members blocking the server with PMs to Shiatsu trying to get marked onto Cordelia's card.
How would one recognize the lovely Cordelia?
[QUOTE=Peter]I picture Shiatsu standing next to Cordelia at the lockers where the men pay. Some guy hands Cordelia 50€ and she passes it on to Shiatsu to go have fun!
Peter[/QUOTE]Might as well pay directly to Shiatsu! (Boy, wouldn't that be an awkward moment! :/
Looking forward to perhaps hearing about Cordelia's experiences working at World, that would be interesting to hear about a typical day at World from a ladies perspective, how they feel, how they are treated, what they like from us men etc.
[QUOTE=Euro Wanderer]How would one recognize the lovely Cordelia?[/QUOTE]She´ll be the one great woman men are standing for in line while the known TopActs at FKKW will hang around at the bar without any work.
[QUOTE=Euro Wanderer]How would one recognize the lovely Cordelia?[/QUOTE]She´ll be the one great woman men are standing for in line while the known TopActs at FKKW will hang around at the bar without any work.
Went to World on Friday, the 11th. I got there around 12:30 (not realizing that it would take me over 2 1/2 hours in my car, thanks to it being what we call in the states a POS) and took in the sites. A friendly girl named Betty (Cuban, petite) showed me around and I settled in. I met Shiatsu and Cordelia, who were just as nice as they appear to be on the board.
My first session was with a short blonde girl with a nice body (D cup at least) who wore glasses named Janet. She said she was from Germany. Before we went to the session, she was incredibly nice, very personable despite her limited English. But then we got into the room, and it turned into one of the most mechanical sessions I've ever had. Her obvious request for a tip was almost laughable. It's a shame such a nice girl has such poor service.
Then I sat around and waited for the meal and the night crew. Shiatsu informed me of the bad news that Andrea wouldn't be there that night, so I still have no idea who she is. Finally, after eating a nice meal of noodles with meat and red sauce, I sat down on one of the black couches in the main room to rest and relax. Within 20 minutes, 5 girls approached me asking if I wanted a session. It got a little frustrating so when number 6 came by, Georgia from Romania, I was a little rude. She called me on it in perfect English, then proceeded to have one of the nicest conversations with me I've had in a long time. I had a long, extended, passionate session with her that ranks her as one of my favorite girls I've met in an FKK. She is outstanding. She is medium height, short brown hair that she was wearing up in tiny ponytail, with natural B cups. No tats. Give her a look, guys.
My first trip to World was good and the only real complaints I had was that, in contrast to Palace, the lighting is horrible. It's almost too dark to distinguish one girl from another. And, I know this is small, but the stools at the bar, where I like to sit, were terribly uncomfortable. At Palace, the stools are sturdy and have backs so you can lean and rest. At World, it's an effort to just sit there. It's as if they use those to encourage you to sit on the couches and get approached. But as I said, these are small, trivial things that do not take away from the allure of the place, it's outstanding facilities, and the beautiful women.
From Cordelia - I'll do very short messages in case the forum crashes while i'm in the middle- Forgive if the style is rushed but am in internet cafe
After four days I realised the main feature of a girl's day was waiting. On my first day there were only 20 men in 10 hours. It was after Karneval and was about the quietest day ever. I got one man which as there were over 40 girls was quite good. Do the arithmetic.
Next day was Saturday and was a lot busier after about 16.00 - but that meant about 6 hours waiting before many men turned up. I lost my concentration and didn't do so well
Sunday was no busier but I had a good day - working from 14.00 until 24.00, pleased to be just about the busiest woman that day.
Monday was as quiet as the Friday. I had a nasty man which again I let throw my concentration
On the quiet days being in the one room for hours with almost no men coming in affects all the girls - we all watched the clock creep round., listening the Schnappi song (!) and the fourth loop of the same porn film .....
I admire the girls for being able to stick it --- all come back to their task in hand
Cordelia says, thé first things I get asked are, Do the girls talk about the men and are they bitchy?
The answer is NO. The girls were all incredibly supportive and freindly with each other. There is competition but no jealousy or rivalry. No doubt there is friction from time to time and arguments but this was not the norm. The large Rumanian contingent tend to remain a bit together but I was made to feel very welcome. One of the busiest girls gave me tips on how to close a deal, otheres said nice things like "I hope I am like you when i am older" and there was much talk about my piercings etc. The comradeship was very positive.
The girls tend not to talk about the men. What happens in the rooms tends to stay there. The girls feel that if there is a bad session it reflects on them. There is not taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of men (apart from on on eoccasion when monkey noises were made behind a man's back because he had been horrible in public to a girl) (btw - he was white and German) However if he had turned round the girl would have been all smiles and giggles
Cordelia says
About 25% of men seemed to be lovely, and about the same were nasty. The rest seem ok.
I'll talk about the bad. What this means is they are rude and rough and treat the girls like pieces of meat to be thrown around in a room or a corridor. They can also be smelly and i mean seriously smelly. This is almost the only reason that girls will turn down a man (unless he is a complete violent nutter). As mentioned in the foum before some men will interprete this as racism but it's not - if you stink don't expect to be fucked or at least not to have oral without a condom
One man pushed a girl so hard in the corridor I had to pick her up
I only had one bad experience. The man demanded that I NOT use a condom and that I should let him come in my mouth for nothing. When I refused he was very badtempered and rough. basically he was a shit but I got his 50 Euros. He was stupid - he had a bad time when he could have had a good time
The good. The girls appreciate a man who is a bit sensitive and pleasant (obviously this is a generalisation) Apart from my one bad man everybody was very nice in the room to me. And a few were very very good at sex - (you mongers know who you are!!) so it made the day worth while
Cordelia says - it became obvious to me that what is sold is not sex but a presentation package. The girls spend a fortune on makeup and spend hours making up their package of appearances. The sex is irrelevant for most of them. And very few of them are really any good at sex (says Shiatsu). The 50E buys a picture and fantasy.
I had trouble working out how to sell - my ability is in the sex- On he Saturday it baffled me completely, by Sunday I understood the selling to a degree - basically it is to look at the man from a foot away and imediately make him think that every breath he takes is a wonder of nature, making google eyes and stroking. I was never very good at that.
However when i sold my package and the men came to unwrap it things went very well. generally the sex was good and some german FKK regulars said I was the best sex they had ever had. this is the other way of selling - building up a reputation but of course I did not have time to do that
I enjoyed much of my time at World. Good friends from girls, admiration from girls, some good sex. All the staff were very kind. The atmosphere was really nice for me. And all I did was walk up and start work. I' m doing short reports in case the forum crashes in the middle of one.
I found out it is hard work to be selling all day. The sex is easy but the mental demand of selling was a different matter. In addition my feet hurt and many girls have bad backs from too much sex by men pulling them about (not nastily but sex is an energetic activity). It's hard work mentally and physically. The girls who do best are those who hae apositive target (a shop a businesse etc).
I found it beginning to get addictive even after only four days. This reflects the level of commitment necessary for the selling. I didn't have a lot of confidence in my package as I was much older than the norm. But I got a lot of good feedback from the men who went with me and from the girls. However I did not have enough of a commitment to make the tedium of waiting for the few men to turn up worthwhile (World suffers from its location in winter)
I enjoyed meeting the mongers. Sunday was an especially lovely day with four there at once
Shiatsu says.
World was incredibly quiet and the girls were very bored. They were very nice and helpful and the staff were extremely welcoming. A nice atmosphere
As always it is a good place to relax. There does not seem to be any enthusiasm for couch action and the prevailing ehtos seems to be that halfhour is up the second the man comes - even if it is only after five minutes.
I went with Magda,(Rumanian). I had always thought of her as inapproachable but I met her downstairs after Novize had worked his flirting charms on her and I found she was articulate, opinionated, and entertaining. We agreed to have sex in the washing machine (ok Magda is a bit off the wall) but went to a room instead where we talked for 20 minutes about his and that and then decided that we had better have sex. She wiggled very effectively and I ended a nice session (what I didn`t know was that Cordelia was in the next room and heard the whole session!!!!) I liked Magda. She has a very lovely body, is friendly, is very flexible and does her job conscientiously. She gave me the whole halfhour.
I went with Julia (also Rumanian) not the tall one but the shorter very blonde on with tits which bounce as she walks across the room. She was very friendly, she like being licked (pronouncing that I was a good licker!!) and fucked with some interest. However after I came she got up and started to leave - 20 minutes so I consider this to be shortchange. I notice this is very common So I would not go back with her even tho she is very nice and I had a good session)
I feel that some girls are in danger of losing some of the key features of a FKK - the guarantee of a halfhour and the willingness for five minutes chat on a couch first or after. However many girls are willing to talk and commit to a bit more so i don`want to give the impression that there is a big problem. Just be aware that some girls give more than others and that to some extent you can tell by watching.
Cordelia,
I found myself engrossed when I read your series of short posts below. In fact, having read (and indeed scribed) dozens of reports, I don't think I have ever read one with your unique perspective. I wish you could write more and more. Too bad you don't have the opportunity to do more such "research" and publish a book.
It was most interesting to read a bit about the girls' reaction to you (generally supportive and positive) and to read your take on the men: The Good, the Bad and the Smelly! These and other points you make are invaluable.
The one thing I would specifically ask you to expand on is your mention of certain girls giving you tips on "closing the deal." I am really interested to hear what advice you were given. However, I also respect that maybe you wish these and/or other details not to be published in the public domain. But if there are no restrictions, please do expand on this when you have time.
Also, I am a naturally sensitive and caring person...comes with being a Cancer, I guess? Anyway, it was most gratifying to read that, from your perspective, at least, such qualities in a man/client are appreciated by the girls. Although, in some of my past experiences I really do wonder if that is the case, I mean there are some really cold fish out there. But this all has a lot to do with individual chemistry perhaps, so an experienced FKKer should be able to decipher whether a potential session partner (a girl) would be receptive to softness in a man and sensitivity...
Thanks again for some truly fascinating reading,
Ortos
Ortos
Thanks very much. Again a short message since we're worried the site will crash so forgive a rushed reply
Closing the deal - basically a successful girl told me thateverything depends on attitude. Ugly women can get customers provided they make the men feel special. The important thing is to make the man think he is important to the girl and is clever and lovely. Obviously this is an illusion which is being sold - but nonetheless the girls will always prefer a man who is genuinely pleasant and considerate. The second element was to get in touch with the men physically - "get out there and grab them". From this you'll see that many girls don't have the mental concentration keep going all day. Women need to sell their package.
I was surprised that charm and chat aren't really important in making first contact for most men. Most men wanted the wrappings and not any personal contact. However there were exceptions - and these were also oddly enough the men who were most interested in real sex
I was amazed how rude a few of the men were - this explains perhaps why some women don!t approach men - it is bad to talk to a man only to be told "you are only talking to me because you want my money - other girls really care and love me" - (Shiatsu says a man like that must be an absolute fool and thick)
However, bear in mind this is my experience and that some girls are as cold as ice whatever their smile may claim and that really only care about the money. So it's always a difficult call on both sides - one can never tell whether a man or a working woman are going to be ice cold until it's too late. And of course it will vary also according to the ethos of the club
I gave up after four days - I didn't have the mental discipline and confidence to approach men for 12 hours plus a day. I hadn't realised how tough it could be (especially as it was my holiday!!)
Cordelia
I had a couple of quick questions:
Can someone here tell me about hotels near FKKW that are moderately priced (Euro 40-60 range)
Do any of the girls from FKKW do Incalls (in nights) at nearby hotels. Was thinking in terms of asking some of the girls i have read about to come to my hotel room.
Regards,
Sharq
From Rumania of course. Shiatsu reports. I went back after C had stopped. I didn't really fancy anyone and it was really quiet (Wed around 20.00). Even Julia (tall one from Ru) made eye contact!!.
However Anka stopped me in the corridor and asked me to go with her. I said no. Then I said "You look upset" and out came the story - how she didn't know what she was doing wrong as she didn't get enough men etc and how she was working an 18 hour day. Anyway I got her to go on a couch (no doubt with the prospect of a 50 Euro note) and showed her how to make herself a bit more obvious (kissing, cuddling etc) and to show everybody she was successful. We chatted for ten minutes, then had a nice halfhour in a room and went on a grand tour of upstairs to show the men and girls she had got a customer. I left straight after with her cheerful blowing kisses and smiles across the big room.
This showed a few things - the girls can sometimes get down and have difficulty closing the deal. I'm not gullible enough to spend my 50 euros just because someone says "Zimmer?" - I expect a bit more
One girls told me that she reads the reports men make. I wonder if this is one reason why at FKKW the girls are now approaching the men much more
Had a good time meeting you and Cordelia. The insights she provided were very enlightening, especially the difference a 50 euro note made in a "relationship." Good to hear she had a few good experiences at World. Glad you found Magda. You can see why she is one of my favorites. Met her first at Atlantis. She can be quite playful at time, but sometimes she can appear to be moody. Too bad I missed her again!
I think the problem with closing the deal is that there is so little time. Just as guys try to find out if a girl will give a good time, girls have to determine in a short time whether a guy is interested at all or if he is even interested in any session. I did find an interesting experience with a girl at Palace who said she was very good at sex and liked to kiss. Now that's advertising and cutting to the chase.
On Closing the Deal:
Cordelia, Thanks for giving us a bit more on this great subject. Your perspective is priceless for those who strive to really "understand" and for those men who really do care what is going on in the mind of the the other half of the deal and what that girl might actually feel. Bravo again. Your writing has illuminated various corridors of fkking that were previously a bit dim (or was it just me?), and I look forward to reviewing what you say, when I am next sitting upright on one of the World couches in observant/hunting mode.
Shiatsu,
Re Anka: Your kindness and mentoring seems to have born some fruit, for just two nights ago, a friend and known wsg board member, Mr Beffen1, wrote (0n another board) a nice piece about his long passionate session with Anka last Thurs night. If she could score an experienced monger like him, well, she must be doin' somethin' right, right? I will look out for her in a couple of weeks or so, when I next walk through the red velvot curtain...
Ortos
This is something I want to address but by NO means belabour.
Just wanted it to be said that some (and understand please, I do mean VERY few women) do practice racism in the FKK clubs, I am a black mongerer, nice looking and definitely do NOT smell and I have had some women repeatedly avert their glances when I have tried to make contact with them.
My parents raised me right and my personal hygenie is extremely important to me even when I am alone, so I know that was not an issue with these women. Hey, when I have gone to FKK clubs, I have been treated like a king (or porn star lol) by women of all countries, but there are a small handful who will refuse to work with me solely on the basis of color, and nothing else.
Anyway, back to the reviews. If any of you guys are in Frankfurt w/e 4/1 (April 1) PM me.
Minimus
Fair point. We were trying to help by pointing out how important it is for all men to be clean (amazingly this is not understood by some men).
We're sad that anyone should discriminate on colour, ethnicity etc. As we are white we have rarely had that problem but sometimes it has happened against us and we know it is unpleasant. Being a woman used to be the same - treated as inferior - but fortunately things have changed.
We'll not be in Frankfurt when you are there - unfortunately
Cordelia
On reflection I don't think I got everything out of my last visit. So I 'm going back for another holiday (!!) from March 18th until at least 24th. FKK World staff were very supportive of me. This time I'm going to lock myself in so that I'm like all the other girls and don't have a husband with me to give me options to leave every two minutes....
I loved the sex last time. Apologies to anyone who I missed by leaving when I did. Maybe next time??
If anyone is likely to be around when I am there and would like either a chat and/or good sex PM me.
Cordelia
Arrived at World with few friends on Thursday at around 17:00. Around 30 girls and men. The selection got better couple of hours later. We had hoped to meet Cordelia, but that experience will have to wait until next time (great posts Cordelia and Shiatsu, keep'em coming).
World has been my least favorite FKK club of the 3 big FRA clubs, but that does not mean that I don't like it, only that I like the other 2 better. The main room is a bit too dark. You are kind of out of range when sitting in many of the sofas and it is hard to make contact unless standing up and walking right up to the girl. What can be done to make these places a bit more fun in between sessions? I get bored in between even when with friends so I can understand that the girls can be bored to death.
We had two main agendas for the visit. One was to meet Cordelia who unfortunatly had left (Cordelia and Shiatsu have been very nice keeping us posted about day to day situation so we knew we would not meet her this time) and the other to meet the Croatian sisters (Celine and Tina). We had stayed in the club for about half an hour when we met Celine. She told us her sister was in the changing room. One of us went with Celine to a room and all was as usual, that is PSE. Celine was a bit more business like now than last time when we met her at Oase, not taking a lot of time for smalltalk and was working the room pretty aggressevely (and closing the deals as well). I decided to skip her this time.
I went with Julia from Romania (the playful blond with the perky tits that Shiatsu refers to). How many Julias are there now? Had a great session with her. Very nice girl.
Next session was a double team with my collegue on Tina. Very energetic and fun. Offered Anal and DP (although I'm not sure if she really ment DP), but we declined and opted for the more traditional one in mouth while other is banging with regular switches. Tina liked to test our limits and after a prolonged bbbj with my friend she jumped on me and demanded a DFK. I just thought what the hell and went for it. Don't think she was expecting that. Great fun with Tina, but after this session she was booked for the whole evening by some guy.
As I had given Julia favourable review to one of my collegues, he was eager to go with her. I had noticed that Julia was hanging out with a brunette and I suggested that we would get them both to a room. I approaced Julia with this idea and ok, they were all for it. Asked the other girls name. Answer: "Julia". Ok I thought, now has come a time to use social security number to identify the girls instead of names. They can't continue on this Julia run for any longer :-)
The session was a good one. My collegue liked Julia as well as I did and brunette Julia was ok, although she did not seem to be much into kissing, she was very affectionate. When I was in the middle of coming, my collegue blurts out "hey man, are you coming" and it kind of ruined the moment. Brunette Julia sushed him and gave him a disimproving look. Orgasm is apparently not to be interupted in her mind. When he was coming with perky blond Julia, I returned the favour and asked if he was coming (now he at least knows how it feels to be interupted in the middle of an orgasm ;-). Brunette Julia was shocked by our disrespect for the moment and now I got the look. It was all in good fun, but I liked brunette Julia for her sensitivity towards the orgasm moment and she seemed pretty genous about it. We stayed in the room for good 10-15 minutes afterwards and I was afraid we had ran over the half hour mark, but the girls made no claims over the 50e each.
One of my friends had gone with Linda and other with Miracle, both black girls claiming they are from Jamaica. They hung out with us a lot afterwards and are great fun to be with. I decided that my fourth and last session of the night would be with Linda. This happened to be one of the best sessions for a long time. She looks good, her lips are just delicious, but what made the experience great was that there had been a lot of communication before the session and I liked the girl. My best sessions are almost always with girls that have done a little investing in discussion, playfulness etc. without extensive pressure of going to room.
Other girls sampled this night by my collegues were Czeck Cindy, Russian Marina, Michelle, and couple of others I don't remember the names of. All session were rated good so all in all a pretty good night and I would repeat with the ones I went with.
I think some english speaking WSG/Igna???? members were present, but I did not have the "courage" to approach them and ask straight out. Would have been great to get some pointers from regulars on location. I have yet to find Czeck Andrea although there was a girl there that might have been her.
We had planned to do Palace on Friday and Oase on Saturday, but changed our plan and reversed as we would have to leave a bit early on Friday and Oase is better daytime club than Palace with Palace getting really strong from 7/8 pm. Will report seperatly.
Chivaz
Hey
I was dissipointed to here about the fall of world. I was at oase once before but it was so packed that i could not use the jacuzzi or find a place to sit.
i will be back in germany in april. hope to check somethings out then
rd
Hotels:
Zum Grünen Baum
Schiffenbergstr. 5
Garbenteich
06404/ 7152
very old-fashioned, not comfortable, but with 26,- €/night incl. breakfast very cheap.
Gasthaus Häuser
Linden-Leihgestern
Tel. 06403/ 69111
ETAP Linden
Gewerbegebiet Luckebachtal
Gottlieb-Daimler Str. 8
35440 Linden
Tel: (+49) 06403/ 75 37 3
Girls for Incall-service:
Maybe you´ll find a girl who is willing to serve you after her normal shift at World. But are you sure you want to meet a woman that has been working for at least 12 hours just before she comes to your room?
And, if the club-management recognizes your wishes, you might get a "Hausverbot": The FKK-Clubs live from the entrance fee of the male and female guests. They are not interested in promoting services outside the club...
At World once again yesterday, I met some guys from the US there - it´s always a special pleasure taking with you!
The place seemed quit filled for a sunday, nevertheless the atmosphere was quiet low. Since it was just my third visit at World this year, I nearly felt like a foreigner at the place - the majority of girls was unknown to me. I don´t have to mention that most of the "Newbies" come from Romania.
After talking with my fellow mongers for a little while, I placed myself in one of the couches close to the dining room and looked around to select my first victim.
The variety of girls available was completely satisfying for me and I had some problems making my plans. But after some minutes a very nice looking girl came to sit opposite to me, dhatting with another girl. After exchanging smiles and looks for some minutes she came over and approached me. She intoduced herself as Ramona from Romania. dhe didn´t speak German, but English, another chance to exercise my language skills (besides ot this forum).
But we didn´t talk to much: She began to kiss me in the soft and gently way that makes my heart melt and starts to strenghten other organs of mine... ;)
She didn´t hurry and I enjoyed very nice 15 minutes on the couch kissing and stroking Ramona and receiving everything back that I did to her...
Finally we went downstairs for a room and some more intimacy.
Ramona really tried (and managed!) to please and pamper me in every way I could think of. I enjoyed her soft and wet BBBJ, before laid her on her back, kissed her cheek, her shoulders an breasts before I made my way down for some DATY which she really seemed to enjoy. After some time I made my way up again, Novize jr. got covered and I penetrated her slowly without loosing eye-contact. Missionary is a great style to produce intimacy, and we ended in this position. After that we lay side by side keeping each other in our arms, before the time was more than up and we went upstairs again.
A session scoring in the top ten in nearly three years of mongering!
Ramona´s stats:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: ~ 1981
hair: black, long
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattooes/piercings: none
other: great GFE
I went for lunch after the session and found my fellow mongers at the upper bar afterwards. I was tired after this session and soon tried to get some sleep in the Relaxzone downstairs. No chance!
After a short time I was approached by Tina from Croatia. Although I knew this couldn´t work, I went to a room with her. Beginner´s fault! But after the session with Ramona it was at least something that brought me back on earth. Not the girl´s mistake, so I won´t give any rating.
After the second lunch I wandered around a little bit and looke for my next victim, when Ramona came to me and we sat down for some cuddling. She told me, she had another customer in line, but would be free after that. So she took the desision away from me...
I told her I would wait downstairs in the Relaxzone, went there, closed my eyes and woka up at the moment Ramona came to my couch. For a detailed descrition of the following session just re-read the first one. She added ball (and surrounding area)-licking, I added a gentle massage of her anus and togehter we added some doggie-style. All in all, the second session was even more intimate than the first one.
I was over for this night. I spent the time till closing with Small-Talk and planning my next trip to World.
I often get asked for details in PMs etc so I thought I'd try to give details here for general use
Firstly, Giessen is 70km from Frankfurt and easily accessible by halfhourly (usually) direct train, taking around 40 minutes. The hard bit is after that
Use the bahn.de website
Choose "Int Guests"
Choose "PlanningYour Journey"
Enter Giessen to Pohlheim in the "from" and "to" boxes, then do search
Next screen choose "Advanced Search"
Next screen enter Giessen in "From" box, change "To" box to "address" option and then enter "Pohlheim Garbenteich, Dorf-Guller Strasse" the do search
When options come up chose "Dorf-Guller Str/L3131". Do search
Next screen gives you the itinerary to Sportplatz. You get off here (you can tell because you will have been going down Dorf-Guller str and are just leaving the built up street with a field on the left and a sportground on the right
Once you get off the bus you walk in the direction the bus had been going when you were on it, (not the way the bus goes once you get off it) keep the sportfield to the right of you, cross a railway line. After about .5 of a mile you turn left and you are almost in front of FKKW.
Taxi from Giessen to FKKW one way is 17 euros
Shiatsu
Last Sunday night at World - first time in a couple of months, as I'm usually an Oase man, but made up to meet with Shiatsu and Cordelia.
I've already met Shiatsu at the already legendary WSG survivor's night and the mysterious Cordelia and I have been corresponding since before the summer. An intelligent charming woman, who is breaking down alot of the artificial barriers that our society imposes on our desires, needs, and fantasies.
Since the summer S&C have become Beverly afficianados, met with many WSG mongerers and genuinely endeared themselves to all of us many with their openess, fascinating posts and willingness to test their own limits, to taste the forbidden, to reach new understandings of themselves and their relationship.
I do not believe that I have ever met any woman who would announce that she was going to work at World and actually carry it out as Codelia has at FKK World. I told her - it really takes balls! And I sincerely admire someone who acts on their desires, not heeding the naysayers and societal constraints and moralizing.
With all that we had to talk about, the sex could easily have been anti-climatic. Believe me it wasn't. How can I describe it - a unique mix of sweet and spicy, intimate and wild, intelligent and raunchy, She really likes the sex, so why shouldn't she enjoy herself. And btw - I paid for my session. Friends or no friends - C's a very hard business woman, and the week in World came with a business plan to cover out of pocket expenses.
For me- it was an EST-like night. Closing the circle in some way since S&C credit (or blame) me for tipping them off about Beverly and giving the kernel of the idea for their World adventure. It' s simply amazing how this forum has changed lives and brought people togther from the far-flung corners of human existence. The one common denominator is that we are looking to expand our sexual horizons and we all have balls. Some mroe than others!
Last Sunday night - some other notes-
*went with the lovely Jamaican Linda whom Chivaz has described so well> Lots of fun - long 1 hour session. It was only her 2nd night. Fabulous ass which I probed explored and groped. Great lithe body. Likes to laugh and play. So do I. Highly recommended.
*Also went near the end of the night with a skinny long legged Bulgarian - I'm ashamed to admit that her name was either Christina or Maria. She was lying on the couch near the curtained platform and had the eyes, and although I was very tired having spent the previous day skiing, I couldn't resist the eyes. Unbelievable passionate not faked sex . She later told me that as it was a very slow weekend, she had only had 4 short sessions in 2 days and needed to get it out of her system and was watching me since I had come in. Now I knew why she had locked her eyes on me. I more or less collapsed afterwards, and after about 10 minutes, I realized that she was kissing me from top to bottom and thanking me. Now who do you think should be paying for this session?
*Also it was great to finally meet (introduced by Shiatsu and Cordelia) the immensely knowledgable and experienced Novize, probably the most active FKK-er that I know. Had a nice talk about the troubled FKK business which over this long winter is obviously suffering.
* Sundays are usually a slow day, but how can they keep a place of this magnitude running, maintain the facility, etc without business every day of the week. I found the energy level very low, the selection of sp, as I've pointed out before, very monolithic and not diverse, and a lack of contact. I agree that the Oase facility cannot match World, but at least at the moment, it's doing a better job at keeping its positive sexual energy and producing a better product. IMO, Palace also has at the moment a higher energy level. Novize seems to think that with other clubs opening closer to FRA, the Pohlheim location may be in for some hard times.
[quote]the immensely knowledgable and experienced Novize, probably the most active FKK-er that I know.[/quote]Who the hell is walking around at World using my nickname? ;)
Thanks for the flowers, but knowing some guys who are in the club-scene for 10 - 20 years I still feel adequately described by my nick... :)
[quote]Novize seems to think that with other clubs opening closer to FRA, the Pohlheim location may be in for some hard times.[/quote]From the existing clubs in the Rhein-Main-area, World is hardest to reach from Frankfurt, South Hessen, Baden-Württemberg and Bavaria - economically wealthy regions with quit a big number of regular club-visitors.
World has the service providers with the lowest communication skills of all clubs in Hessen in average. Most visitors are german speaking, and at World there are a lot of girls who´s german skills are worse then their english skills. This leads towards an atmosphere getting close to the Frankfurt RLD-district.
World seems to have the biggest percentage of discount-hunting "without condom fucking" male guests of all clubs.
Most of the ATL-Top-Providers have moved to Oase or Palace, only a few to World. These girls are magnets for visitors.
World is the biggest club of all and so needs a lot more people to develop a good atmosphere. When Palace seems lively and crowded, the same number of guests make a poor impression at World.
The clubs biggest advantage is it´s great outdoor area. This made the club superior to all others in the hot summer of 2003. in 2004 this wasn´t an advantage due to the cold, wet summer.
That´s why I think, World will face hard times if there will be one or two new places to go to in the Rhein-Main/Rhein-Neckar-area.
Just my viewpoint to muddy the waters. Comparison is always hard and is often a matter of viewpoints. I do not think I would say FKKW is in decline.
My experience on the issues. I was there the same night as 2974 and Iseeu and yes it was rather quiet. However I had been to Oase earlier the same day and that was even quieter (comparing the time I left Oase to the time I arrived at FKKW).
Tha language skills at FKKW are more of an issue for German speakers than for English speakers - so far as I could see the number of English speakers as a percentage is about the same between both clubs (I made several visits to both clubs). For example Rumanians often speak better English than German
As for atmosphere - as I have said previously that there is little couch action upstairs at FKKW - it takes place in the large downstairs lounge. With one girl at FKKW I went with, there was a long period on the couch downstairs - it just needed me to show what I wanted to do. At Oase there is only couch action really if you are already committed to a session (which is fine)
Atmosphere and chatting. There is less chatting than there used to be at FKKW - but it had always been exceptional for the amount of chat (even more than Atlantis) Some girls are interested in a basic service level approach (especially those who do not speak German), but even this is a simplification - there are so may exceptions - I remember 2974 you entertained a girl in the downstairs bar for ages, keeping me in laughter for over half an hour, (and of course Ramona you report on recently).
When I went back on Wednesday the atmosphere was very cheerful - there were girls playing in the pool with men (for a long time so obviously not part of a session) and other girls being carried piggyback around by some other men - there was a general very fun atmosphere, girls were happy to talk to me in passing. Which only shows that things vary night to night.
At Oase (which I visited three times over the week) I did get more chat - but also a lot more in your face marketing - it may have been a bit more subtle than FKW but it was also more intrusive. Once again it's a question of preference
One point I have mentioned previously is shortchanging on sessions (time wise) this seems to be possibly a bit more common at FKKW (but on the other hand I may think that only because it is easier to keep an eye on the timekeeping at FKKW than at Oase)- but I saw it happening at Oase also. The key advice is always to watch and time girls going to rooms and generally not to go with anyone who finishes a session in 10 minutes.
If any conclusions come from this it is that we consumers can decide what we want - couch action/chat/ etc and whichever club we go to we can go for that and not just hope the girls will read our mind. We need to tell a girl we want chat or couch action - if we didn't say then how are they going to know it's important? I went to both clubs several times and found they both had their own weaknesses and strengths.
FKKW has a less heterogenous ethnic mix and this may be a disadvantage for some consumers (but may be good for consumers who like the predominant style of FKKW girls). With this group homogeneity there is the danger of a particular service culture emerging - which could include more of a RLD attitude, or shyness from fresh girls who are basically amateurs (but again some consumers really like this ...)
The biggest problem for FKKW is as 2974 says - its location.
I don't think we can talk about a decline (soemone recently posted asking about FKKW and its decline). Things change. I remember in its early days that everybody was saying FKKW was no good - and then I went there and loved it - even over Atlantis - and then the posts started saying how good FKKW was. I don't think it's ever been very different to how it is now - some things are changing but in essence FKKW is similar to how it's always been. Maybe the change is in the postings by us!!
How we enjoy each club depends on our personal preferences - all we cando in reports is record experiences. Making overall judgenments about clubs is hard unless we can record specifics
Shiatsu
First of all: What's with this Member#2974 stuff? What happened to your name, Novize? Did you change it? or did it happen automatically? Funny, during the problematic weeks for this forum, I recently logged on and in the upper right-hand corner, where it normally says: "Welcome, Ortos. You last visited: etc..." It said: Welcome, Novize. Private Messages: 1 Unread, blah, blah.." It actually thought I was you...and nosey person that I am, I tried unsuccessfully to open your PM, but then the site crashed on me...Justice, I suppose. But that was the last I saw of your name: Novize. So what happened?
Well, you are definitely not a Novice FKKer, that is clear from the many good points and observations you (and Shiatsu) just made about World and its apparent decline...
I don't know if it is right to classify this as a true decline...It is just evolving into what it is. All clubs, like persons, have a personality, or general atmosphere or "vibe." But unlike many people, the club personality can change from one month to the next, or one week to the next, even from day to day. I've always thought the ebb and flow of FKK clubs, like the oceanic tides, is an under-studied science.
Visiting World over the past --jeeez, it's not even two years yet, innit?-- 16/18 months, I am trying to remember at what point exactly World became so dominated by Romanian providers (with the beloved Bulgarians taking second place). I remember vividly that about a year or so ago, there were certainly several Romanians and Bulgarians, but not the utter saturation that we now see. At that time there were far more Czech, Russian, Ukranian, Lithuanian, Hungarian, etc. girls at World in proportion to the overall assemblage than now. Am I wrong? I must admit that I do find the ethnic diversity at Oase and Palace to be a positive factor when I compare it to World.
I had not noticed the language element that you point out at World, until recently. This may have something to do with the country of origin, Romania, of most of the girls, but also the fact that at certain times of the year, World does receive some kind of influx of new girls, who are generally new to the FKK scene and thus have not logged enough working/living hours/days in Deutschland to become in anyway proficient in German. I would imagine that working in an FKK club would take the concept of "intensiv spracht kurs" to new heights...perhaps, we should ask Cordelia? But I think that at any of the 3 big clubs one can find girls less comfortable with German and English is often the default foreign language...
The location of World works both ways. On the one hand, it will be an impediment to some, who lack the means or mind-set to travel 30-40 minutes outside of Frankfurt. Palace and even Oase are far closer, thus more convenient. However, some will like the fact that it is "in the sticks." They might like the physical setting more and the fact that they may be less likely to run into people they know from "the real world." Some girls from Frankfurt/Wiesbaden areas may also prefer to work at World, rather than too close to their home base.
At the end of the day though, as Shiatsu says, each club has its +s and -s...I may lean towards one club now, another one later, but over the long haul I will be drawn to all of them, because they each have a different vibe and are each changing from week to week...
Does anybody else have some comments to make? Beffen, or anyone else just back from visiting World?
Ortos
i was back in frankfurt for my 52nd birthday weekend celebration. after a flawless delta flight, the fine gentleman at the monopol had an upgraded deluxe double room for 65 euro ready for me at 9am try that in amsterdam, he even remembered my name thanks to the introduction of ortos. i lay around until 3 pm or so, needing to catch up on my sleep and at 4 30 took the train to giessen. unfortunately there was a suicide on the tracks north of bad homburg and we were delayed 45 minutes and had to cram onto a combined train but i made it by 7 30.
world was surprizingly quiet this thursday (feb 17) night, many of the reguars i had come to know and love we absent, my romanian darlings andrea and luana were gone. in no hurry to begin, i sat on a couch and surveyed the room. soon a tall brunette joined me, she had a face very similar to my recently departed wife andrea from romania and was a great kisser on the couch so i took her to the vip room for a half hour beginning romp. excellent deep throat and more fabulous snogging but i did not feel the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] chemistry i crave. still, dahlia from romania was a very nice appetizer, though not mind blowing. she is at world less than one week.
i returned to the main room, still no sign of desert fox, and as i was minding my own business, watching the horseplay of cindy the czech librarian and the slowly increasing customer base and mating ritual activity, a tall tan willowy blonde with the longest back tatoo i have ever seen sat on my lap and introduced herself. i am jaqueline she said. remembering freds intel, i asked where are you from. poland was the reply and her touchy feely couch action just about sealed the deal. after about five minutes of couch kissing and small talk, we went to the same vip room for an hour of great sex.
back in the great room, fox had arrived and we sat for a while before he took his new bulgarian wife away for yet another honeymoon. i had been admiring an adorable petite yet busty barbie doll blonde who looked about 17 years old. i motioned her to sit on the couch next to me to find her name was julia aged 21 from romania and formerly employed at golden time and phg. she had natural c cups, curly blonde hair and a body to die for. her couch kissing was more of the teasing variety, very similar to that of marlene of phg, gt, and now samya in koln. we snagged the best vip room, the one with three walls of mirrors, just right for this delightful eye candy. despite her lack of english skills, i enjoyed a fine 30 minute session, putting her through her paces in a romp that was more than an optik fick but less than a gfe.
by now, around 1 am, i was feeling tired so both fox and i retired to the relax zone to nod off. i could not though and went back upstairs. i sat on a couch where i could watch the comings and goings and spied my first girl dalhlia sitting with two of her mates. one was a delighful tall [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] named anka, with that pouty high school girl face many of us love, she was tall, dark red died hair slim and gorgeous with puffy small b cups and a perfect slim body. i motioned her over to sit with me and soon she was kissing me in the manner to which i have become addicted. as we searched for a vip room, all the doors were closed and other couples were searching as well, they passed all the closed doors but i know to look for a chair propped against the translucent doors, one couple passed thinking it was occupied and i checked anyway and voila the pepto room was free indeed so we giggled and grabbed it.
anka gave me a true gfe for one hour, we hit it off smashingly. i reluctantly bid her farewell after an hour, with endless goodbye kisses in the locker room. so now its 2 am and i basically lazed away in the relax zone and had a sauna or two. then , at 4am, as fox and i watched soccer in the relax zone, anka came down trolling. i went after her and she kissed me passionately bade me to join her on the couch by the water cooler to chill. and for the next hour, we made out like high school kids and i massaged her and we talked about life. then it was 5 am and time to go. anka is at world just 6 days and is recommended if you like a dkk/ gfe.
beffen1
gentlemen,
i wouldn't classify the current conditions at world as a decline, just a seasonal lull. with the messe season and inclement weather and icy roads, palace definately now enjoys an advantage with more girls and punters staying in the city close to the messe and not straying into the countryside. even with the seasonal advantage of palace and to a lesser extent oase, still, the lineup at world never ceases to titillate me more than that at palace. i like the turnover factor at world. i like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] types and world never disappoints in that regard.
on friday february 18, i found little to stir my loins at palace, despite the presence of some 50 or 60 girls. were it not for a one hour session with marina, it would have been a totally boring night. i did not visit oase this trip because i really do not like the smoky crowded atmosphere and did not want to be trapped indoors with the rowdy crowd and relatively poor service at oase, but i shall definately go back there in the summer.
as for hard sell, quickie in-out inferior service, i have encounterred more of that at oase and palace than at world. the aggresiveness factor has always been more bothersome for me at palace and oaser than at world. couch action is more comfortable at world too, it depends on the night, i have had great threesome couch action at world in the main room, and great one on one downstairs. the girls at palace tend to cut it short in favor of the room. at world, i tend to develop more relaxed affable relationships with girls.
the physical facilities at world, the hospitality and service, the cleanliness, constantly replenished food, and all the varied spaces are what does it for me. and in summer, with the pool and gardens i can relax all day from 11 am until closing at world. it's like a home away from home. world will rock this spring and summer, and the girl selection will get even better.
as for diversity, yes there are many romanians there, but they are adorable and often offer gfe. i love romanians. and i have met plenty of representatives from belarus, moldavia, russia, poland, hungary, czech republic, slovakia, jamaica, africa, cuba, brazil, and germany at world. if i want more latinas, i'll go to costa rica, its much closer to home and warmer.
when i think of fkk, i think of the men's day camp that is fkk world. i can't wait for summer.
Beffen1 - I'm glad you found Anka after I reported on her being a bit down in the dumps. She gave me a nice time (as I previously reported), and in the light of recent posts, is very much the sort of person who you are most likely to find at FKKW compared to elsewhere - a new, inexperienced sex worker. Happy to sit and talk and kiss and have enthusiastic sex. Shiatsu
I am dissappointed to hear that World is turning into a Romanian Sex Brothel. Last visit in January was very mild compared to my previous visits in March, October, and November. The mild weather in October was awesome. I like hanging outside,, basking in the warm weather, watching the guys and girls hold hands while they walked around the grounds. Being able to walk outside for a "smoke" was a nice change late in the evening.
I can only imagine that as one Niche fails,, another one blossoms. I do enjoy the facilites of Palace,even Oase (except for the odor and smoke) and hope that World keeps its previous levels up to par.
I am forced to go study these issues abroad,, need some ethnic diversity so I am off to Central America (Costa Rica) this week and then going to Thailand
for two weeks in Mid March. Will have to compare the 3hr (threeway) Soapy Massages to the FKK environment.. Ah,, what choices.
I am hoping to return to Frankfurt in April thanks to some really discounted airfares on Northwest,, only $480 (Total) Roundtrip from Phoenix direct to FRA. One bad thing about the European Sex venues,, cheap to get there but expensive once you get in. In Thailand,, expensive to get there ($800 RT) but very cheap once your there ( 500 Baht/$10 bar fine and about 1000-1500 Baht/$30 for the entire evening) PER GIRL :-) AND 5 Star Hotels for less than what I pay to stay in Giessen or even the Monopol.
Hope to see some of you then, Will be posting my rantings from Costa Rica Bangkok, Pattaya, and Phuket on Ignatz under my 420 Handle,, Ok per the moderator ..LOL
Regards,, asta la vista,,, doog,, laew phob gan mai, gutten tag,
Carnal1
At FKKW there are Cuban, Spanish, Czech, Jamaican, Latvian, German, Polish, Hungarian, and Bulgarian. This is the sort of mix there has always been - the only difference is that there are more Rumanians than a year ago. My guess would be that about 40% are from Rumania. But a Rumanian brothel it is absolutely definitely not - it is an FKK. As I tried to indicate in my previous post I don't think this indicates a decline. It all depends onwhat you like - the only way to find out is to checkthe clubs out oneself (as I did extensively with three visits to Oase and four to FKKW over five days - I found each club had positives which the other club did not have - the perfect day was to go to both!!!).
Seems to me that the fact here is this discussion about which clubs are best indicates there is a good variety of choice between clubs
Shiatsu
Shiatsu,
One cannot disagree with what you say. I have sometimes engaged in "double-dipping" and visited two clubs in one day. And given the fact that you can re-enter without repaying, basically coming and going as you wish, over a 16-hour period, one can have a lot of fun and erotic experience, if you can afford to pay 120E in entrance fees for one day.
And it is definitely wrong to use the term "decline" with World right now. It is just a different vibe and atmosphere than the other clubs.
True one can list several nationalities at World, not just Romanian or Bulgarian. The point is: How many Latvians are there? How many from Hungary, Poland, Czech? How many Russians, etc....in proportion to the Romanian contingent? It is just so dominated. Whilst the Romanians perhaps figure 40+% at World, the Bulgarians over 20%, girls from other countries might only figure in the single digits? There may only be one girl from Latvia, one from Moldavia, only a couple from Russia, maybe three from Poland, etc. Anyway, I have not done a statistical analysis...It just ain't like it used to be, that is the point.
But ideed one might find more of the type of girl you are looking for at a given club. World, for example, may well be the best to find the newly-arrived girl, untainted and pure love and GFE-type girl, as opposed to the hardened professionals that may populate, say, Oase, in greater numbers. That doesn't mean you won't find either type at either club, it just means one club has more than the other. We are looking at trends here.
Anyway, I love all the clubs, and would not reject or elevate one club above the others. That is why when I go to Frankfurt for several days, I initially visit all the clubs back-to-back during my first two/three days. Have a look round at the girls there and then decide which club(s) to devote most of my time. I will test that in a short time from now and report accordingly...
Ortos
First of all:
[quote]What's with this Member#2974 stuff? What happened to your name, Novize?[/quote]
I lost my name during the Senior Membership Upgrade procedure. I tried to find out, why "Novize" doesn´t meet the Username guidelines, without success. Perhaps, "Novize" just isn´t appropriate for a senior member. "Monk" is too short, so maybe I´ll have to come back as "Monkey". ;)
I already wrote an email to Jackson and hope to have my name back soon. I don´t want to be just a number...
Back to World:
this is a very nice discussion going on here. And I´m happy that we don´t try to write FKKW to death. The club has it´s advantages and disadvantages, but I still like it there - otherwise I wouldn´t be there nearly every sunday.
I just wanted to point out what could happen, if one or two new good clubs open in the Rhein-Main area.
There are outstanding providers at World - and there are girls with great communication skills. But (as a german visitor) for me in average it is lower than at Palace, Flamingo Island, FKK-Haus and, and...
Just imagine these girls worked in the US or UK without even trying to learn american/english - I think that´s a strange attitude...
Novize - not 2974, but 9462
Ortos and Novize - I agree with everything you say in your last posts!!. If only countries' leaders could tak ean example from this forum on how to discuss differing views and come to agreement....
And Novize - losing your identity is an awful fate!- raises all sorts of metaphysical issues (but that's not an FKK discussion....) Anyway I'm sure 2974 will become as well known as Novize - pending your re-incarnation as ? (btw - Cordelia takes your point and is struggling hard to learn a little German for her next holiday)
Shiatsu
[QUOTE=Shiatsu](btw - Cordelia takes your point and is struggling hard to learn a little German for her next holiday)[/QUOTE]
She already did last time - and this was gladly appreciated by the World-staff and her german-speaking colleagues, as I could hear yesterday.
Novize - # 5 23 42 69...
Another visit at World yesterday. I arrived at 8 p.m. at a nearly empty parking place. Having stepped inside, I caounted 30-40 girls and perhaps 20 - 30 male guests. The girl-guy ratio should get more and more favourable during the evening. Men´s delight, but many girls had to suffer boredom during the night.
After chatting with some of the (german speaking) girls and completing my sightseeing lap through the club I was curious if my experience with Ramona last sunday had just been a "one-night-relationship" or if it could be expanded for another night. So I placed myself opposite to Ramona exchanging smiles and glances with her. Not even two minutes later she moved to my couch and sat down beside me. In contrast to last week she wasn´t very busy and had lots of time to concentrate on me. Soetimes I love these quiet sundays!
Her german language skils are nearl non existent, her english skills quit poor, but she´s absolutely great in non-verbal comunication. I soon went into a room with her to practice the internationally well-known "eleven-fingers-sign-language" which she understood very good and responded perfectly... ;)
The first session went on as intimate as if there had never been a one-week-break since our last meeting.
After having finished this session, I tried to enjoy a meal, but the food was lousy that night. So I relaxed a little bit at the chmney downstairs before I moved upstairs again to have a look at the scenery. I recognized some fresh romanian faces, some of them worth a closer look, but Ramona joined me again, we kissed and cuddled each other and - hard to believe - managed to have something like a conversation. So I got to know, that she never learned english at school - she learned it by watching english TV. Therefore I found her english skills quiet impressing...
There were not many male customers (even Andrea/Cz had times when she just sat on a couch for long) - and as it seemed not a single one Ramona wanted to join - so we spent hours on the couch talking, kissing and cuddling (I had told her very soon that I wasn´t in the mood for another session yet, but she didn´t move away), watching the "Further-Education-Movies" on the big flatscreen-TVs (not much we didn´t already know) and looking at Stefanie´s Table-Dance-course for beginners and World-Newbies. I learned about Ramona´s plans for the near future - I think I have to go over her stats from time to time in the near future( new hairdo, new hair-colour, diet), taht I had backdated her a little bit (she´s 26, not 24 as I had guessed last week) - and that talking with her can be as wonderful as getting physical.
Endurance pays, and in the end I went for a second session with her. Frightening, when paid sex with a single girl gets better every time - I´m not married yet, but nearly engaged...
After a small snack we went to the sauna together and ended our night together this way.
At the end, Ramona´s revised stats:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long (curly in a couple of days)
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattooes/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for great GFE
Queen of Hearts - part three is scheduled for next sunday.
Novize #6969
Cordelia writes. I am going back to FKKW from March 18th until March 27th(inclusive). Last time was fun but the fact that it was my first ever such experience told. So I'm going back to see what it's really like - and with any luck I'll have lots of sex. If any wsg members want to say hi (and I promise not to kidnap and abduct you to a room unless you ask!!) PM me.
Shiatsu will be joining me from 25th. On 28th and 29th we are going to Beverly.
Heading to World on March the 12th. Anyone want to meet up? PM me. What are the odds this will even get posted before the 12th?
It's nice to have the forums back up again and working well. I hope this new server is able to handle all the PMs to/from Cordelia/Shiatsu, unlike last month when it crashed prior to her visit to FKKW! :) I've just returned from a holiday to sin city Vegas and am feeling a bit weary as well. Luckily, knowing what's available here kept me from wasting $$ on an unknown experience there in Vegas (strippers to your room, no obligation, etc.).
This talk about the decline of World has me thinking about some issues I noticed the last two times I was there. Perhaps it was the poor weather or the snow on the roads, but my visit on 20 February was a bit disappointing. My first session was with a girl from–you guessed it–Romania. Normally, I would not mind; I enjoyed my two-week holiday in Bucharesti last year. However, this girl was quite something else. Her name escapes me at the moment, but I was showing the facilities to my friend, whose first experience was quite good, when she intercepted me at the bottom of the stairs. She was quite pushy and repeated “no’s” would not drive her away (I was looking for Andrea). I finally relented and took the option for anal upgrade. I should have known better from her poor, pushy attitude. What I got was a non-intimate (no kissing), rushed (12 minutes), over-charged (150 vs. 100) session. I realized I did over pay, but in the end, I was unwilling to talk to the management and confront the Romanian mafia. That was the worst session at an FKK and not a good start to the day.
So, already, I feel sad and let down. Moreover, the girls and the clientele the night of the 20th had an odd feel to it. I finally met up with Andrea and she confirmed it to me as well. The girls were on edge, it was quite slow, and there were a group of loud, boisterous...Westerners shall we say, that neither Andrea nor I cared for. Thankfully, she restored my hope because we had a great hour-long session, and despite not finishing (it must have been the stress at this point), her great attitude and skills make me want to come back again.
Couple that with Cordelia’s visit the previous week, I still have a good time at World. Those of you who have not yet met Cordelia and Shiatsu, you will find some of the nicest people around. Cordelia seemed to be quite busy that night but she left a lasting impression. She truly has passion and enjoys herself and it definitely makes for an enjoyable time. The mirrors in the VIP rooms are nice and allows one to get a nice view of Cordelia going to town; truly talented Bjs. I hesitate to say more because I realize that Shiatsu will be reading this, but if you have a chance to meet Cordelia, she is quite the woman.
so you became a victim of the transsylvanian moneysuckers, too. Sorry for you...
But I have to claim that - according to the "official" price-list, the girl didn´t overcharge you. At World (and Oase) the uplift for anal is 100,- €, plus 50,- € for the time (OK, it should have been just 20,- € for 12 min. ;) ). So complaining at the reception wouldn´t have been of any use.
My last visits at World (I owe a report about last sunday) lead me to the conclusion that the worst times might be over. I always received nice, unrushed services without even a try to overcharge or extend time for the famous "5 minutes". And I have hardly heard any complaints from other visitors at last. Many transsylvanian moneysuckers have left the club and the new providers seem to be advised better...
Your experience shows that it´s not a percect World yet, but I think it´s improving again...
Novize
The reason for the lack of clarity about the price for anal may be that there is no effective official price at the clubs around Frankfurt?. I may be wrong as I have only limited experience. I have been quoted 150,100 and 50 as the official figure. If one of the higher prices is suggested negotiation normally swiftly leads to a 50 agreement. The key is to get the money agreed before actually doing it. However if I have a bad feel about the worker then I wouln't bother negotiating - I'd just refuse.
Shiatsu
22Acacia
Many thanks for the compliments, I return then with interest but no details!! I have a personal rule that I will not post about wsg members. It's bad enough that wsg members have to pay 50 euros yet alone get a report on them - so never any reports from me about mongers.
There are a lot of nice women at FKKW as well as the moneysuckers, so I guess you were a bit unlucky.
Cordelia
When you ask at the reception, you will always be told anal is 150 - including the first 30 min. That´s valid for Oase and World. I´m not into anal, but since I stay at the reception regularly, chatting with the receptionists, I heard that more than once (as a guideline for the women who asked for a hint).
Of course it´s a matter of negotiation, as (nearly) everything. Some girls refuse anal, some do it for 50, for 100, for 200...
I just think one can´t blame a girl for taking the price that is announced by the receptionist. It be then, she would have agreed to a lower price before.
I think it´s different at PHG, GT and Samya (should be 50 €), but for Rhein-Main, 100 € is a normal price. 50 would be a good deal, 0 would be close to love and shouldn´t be published in a forum.
In the end, the price depends on "chemistry", competition and the girl´s individual situation. Poor business leads to lower prices, and the borderline to exploitation can be passed very easlily (not that 22acacia would have done that, just a general remark!)
Not kissing is a handicap, rushing is a kind of rip-off, but anal for 100 extra is nothing to cry about. I can understand 22acacia for not being happy with this uninspired session and I am thankful for his report (I hope he can remember the name for a warning). I just wanted to state that the pricing was "correct". The service was poor...
Novize
I heard from a guy last Saturday at Oase that the Romanian group at World had him swearing off that place for a while. Is this the same Rumanisches Quartett that terrorized Oase last Fall?
Dedalus
Who was the "Rumänische Quartett" at Oase last fall?
At World are definitely more than 4 romanian girls working. But as far as I know, most of them didn´t work at other clubs before.
Novize
Oh boy. My recollection of their names is blank. There was a tiny red-head, two brunettes and a pretty fine looking blonde. Something about that group always made me leery, and there were some negative reports on the roemerforum about them last year. Bitte suchst du ein Post bei dem RM unter den Titel "Ajax ohne Schutz mitten in der Oase!" ich wurde gern ein Link zu diesem Bericht schreiben, aber dafur gibt wahrscheinlich Aerger von dem WSG Chef.
Cheerio,
Dedalus
Elisa (lang, tall, good looking blonde) was at FKKW last year, but I haven´t seen her again since January (I miss her a little bit. I had one - quiet strange - session with her, but sometimes I feel I would like to repeat that).
I forgot the names of the other three, too. But I can´t remember having seen them on one of the last sundays. So there must be more than 4 romanian "terrorists" in this business... ;)
Novize
You can cut & Paste & Translate it no problem. I have done it a couple of times. They are not competing forums.
a Link is more problematic as RF has an age check.
Peter
I suppose I should clarify a bit: I was under the impression that any additional extras were €50,--whether it be an extra 30 minutes, CIM, etc.--but I suppose I was mistaken. Again, I just don't want to make sure I'm overpaying and creating a precedent. We should all pay fair market preis otherwise we run the risk of running up the baseline price. You would not have heard me mention it if the session had not been so bad. Besdies, she was the one who upsold me. Darn it, I wish I could remember her name, but I’m not even sure I can recognize her face anymore–stupid brain!
Then again, there’s always talent there like the famous (infamous?) Andrea, Cindy, or Betty (whom I have yet to meet). I also talked with Alina from Romania who had only been working at World for a few days. But generally, the atmosphere at World seems more relaxed and friendly than my single visit each to Palace and Oase. The closeness of those two to Frankfurt AM makes them both attractive and not. I understand the high cigaretten smoke at Oase hasn’t been dealt with and to me, the facilities at Palace aren’t nearly as nice as FKKW.
Of course, since our friends Cordelia and Shiatsu will be returning to World, I most defiantly will as well.
I can remember from my trip to World back in October for the Halloween weekend, Andrea was the only girl I had asked about anal, and she quoted me the same, 150 Euro. I went ahead and passed, but looking back it might have well been worth it.
I also remembered two of the girls I was with saying they were from Bulgaria. I can't remember their names to save my life, but I remember having once teach me how to say something in Bulgarian, and then trying to repeat it to the second one, and she told me I was speaking another language. It was strange. The second girl was unbelievably hot, and gave one of the best blowjobs i've ever had. I just wish i could remember her name.
This one is from Beffen, who has difficulties to post at WSG:
Schiesse- that WSG MB has me at my wits end- I see a raging thread and write a reply and it just keeps asking me to reregister and then loses my reply. I cut it out and will paste it HERE. Maybe someone can post it for me there unter namen beffen.
Novize-
Wow, I have never seen so many posts in one day.
Bloodsuckers? There may be a couple, but most of my choices have given excellent GFE or PSE service the first two or three sessions- some then tire of my modus operandi and get cranky with me (just like in real life) but they are a gorgeous and fun lot.
My first and only anal at Palace was for 50 euro from grosse Diana. At PHG it has been offered by at least 2 lanky superstars for 25.
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22 acacia- I was there on Feb 20 as well. Too bad, I could have introduced you to my spider girl Anka- she is a sweet newbie. Did you meet the newest Julia? the bouncy blonde with the perfect hooters?
Another visit at World last sunday.
Arriving at 1 p.m. after an all-night party to celebrate the Formula1 season opening, I found the club nearly empty: about 8 women and the same number of men. Did the others watch the race, too, and were now to tired to show up?
The situation changed during the afternoon and evening, but the first hours I spent at World were very slow. A good chance to relax...
My first session was - of course - with my "romance" Ramona (I should call her "Romanza" next time I see her... ;) ) - great GFE!!! "Its getting better all the time..."
After the session it was time for my favourite World-hobby: Extreme-Couch-Potatoeing. I tried to sleep a little bit, but the business was poor enough to forcr the girls to waking me up repeatedly. Since I had laid my tired cadaver to the couch nearest to the pool in the "Relaxzone" I was close to exercise some "*****-dunking", but overcame this temptation.
I went upstairs, met a friend at the bar and recommended Romanza to him. After some hard work to resist Tamara while R. was busy, he finally managed to join her. His "report" afterwards was very positive, which was quiet importent to me, because it showed that her attitude towards me surely just is her style of making business. So there were no difficulties to expect if I would join other girls.
Unfortunately I was much too tired to do this for the most time of the evening. But I finally managed to do a session with Stefanie from Bulgaria, a very friendly, charming and playful member of the "Cindy-bunch" at World. Stefanie is always fun to chat and play with at the bar, and from time to time I really like to share a room with her. In the room it´s not a 100%-GFE, but always a great time cuddling, kissing and laughing. Forgot something? Ah, yes - sex! Her kisses are a little bit mechanical, but her BBBJ is smooth, slow and wet, as I like it. Her perfomance during sex is passionate and enjoyable. But for some reason we harmonize better outside the room than inside. Anyway, will be repeated surely!
Her stats:
name: Stefanie/Steffie
hair: brown, straight, long
size: ~ 1,60 m
figure: slender, curved, B-breast
origin: Bulgaria
born: ~ 1982
tattoos/piercings: none
service: Close to GFE, passionate, good bbbj
other: Usually hangs out at the upper bar with the rest ogf the Cindy-bunch
Chatted with friends afterwards, hung out at the pool to relax and watch the girls promenading, thought of approaching romanian Julia, but was just too tired.
Romanza approached me several times for a nice but short chat - she was quiet busy that day. Since she showed not even a slight sign of disappointment, I´m quiet sure to continue this story on April 20th...
But after Dedalus´ report I´ll have to visit palace before.
Have fun,
Novize
[QUOTE=Beffen1]Novize-
Wow, I have never seen so many posts in one day.[/QUOTE]
An easy exercise on a slow, boring working day, just filling out forms. If my employer wants to waste my time, I have to waste some bandwidth... ;)
[QUOTE=Beffen1]Bloodsuckers? There may be a couple, but most of my choices have given excellent GFE or PSE service the first two or three sessions- some then tire of my modus operandi and get cranky with me (just like in real life) but they are a gorgeous and fun lot.[/QUOTE]
Actually, they don´t suck blood, just money. And they can stay daylight without decomposing to dust. And, as I wrote, I think their number decreases at the moment.
[QUOTE=Beffen1]My first and only anal at Palace was for 50 euro from grosse Diana. At PHG it has been offered by at least 2 lanky superstars for 25.[/QUOTE]
You lucky guy, not only for the price. Diana has a great derrière! :)
I just quoted the prices as they were told at the reception. As written before, the market may show other results...
[QUOTE=22acacia]Darn it, I wish I could remember her name, but I’m not even sure I can recognize her face anymore[/QUOTE]
Next time we meet we´ll try to identify her buns... ;)
Novize
Decided to check out World this past Friday instead of my usual Saturday. Was hoping for a busier, more party like atmosphere. Maybe it was the weather, but the place never did get very busy. Maybe 25 girls and the same number of guys. On the plus side I stuck around till closing and the girls seem to get a bit more playfull towards closing. Splashing around in he pool, etc... There did seem to be more Romanians than what I remember from last October. Maybe 50% of the girls. Not that bad though as they certainly do have a diverse look.
Down to business:
Katya -
Tall with long bleach blond (almost white) hair. Russian, from Moscow. Speaks Russian and German only. Seemed to spend most of her time alone instead of with the other girls. Nice girl, didn't watch the clock or get pushy, etc... Average performace. Not really GFE or wild ride, just kinda there. Seemed a little shy. Anyone know how long she has been there?
My only non Romanian of the night.
Anda -
Romanian (imagine that!), thin, medium height, with medium length dark hair that almost looked a deep red. Recommended by a German friend of mine. Kind of a sassy, friends with benefits type experience. Very playfull. Nice action on the couch, no rush to go to the room. Great visuals, awesome girl for a mirror room. She did try to push the upsell a a bit much and it was a tad annoying but she did stop soon enough that it wasn't a total mood killer. Nice friendly person to talk to around the place when you're done with business in the room.
Alicia -
Another Romanian. Brown hair, a little pudgy, was wearing a black belt. Very similar performance to Anda above. Nice couch action, very playfull, interested in making sure you get your pleasure . Was hanging out with Anda.
Ramona -
Lovely lovely Ramona from Romania. Really the best Girl Friend Experience I've had. I'm a cynical bastard but she comes oh so close to having me believe that she truly adores me. Tall, curly long black hair, a little bit of pudge around the waist. Friendly, nice to talk to. Fun on the couch, outstanding oral. Absolutely adorable face with dark brown eyes. Wonderfull post-coital talking and cuddling. Just a great experience. So good that I opted for another session with her instead of one with the famous Andrea from Czech. On that note, does anyone else think that Andrea and Ramona look quite similar?
Sorry for the break, got rushed out of the house.
In case the point didn't get through before, Ramona is a real treat and you're missing out if you pass her by.
Some of the girls I didn't visit:
Anka-
Tall, dark red hair. Was looking forward to meeting her as I had heard some good stuff on the board. She seemed to be in a foul mood though. I'm suprised that some girls can be all mopey on the couch and then expect a guy to be interested in going to a room.
Maga-
Very thin Romanian, blond hair, speaks good english. She approached me by the pool, sat down, starting talking, and then after five minutes started feeding me some line about charging for any time she spent with me. Sent her packing. Heard from a friend later on that his session with her was less than stellar.
Irina-
Russian, Moscow. Reddish (maybe brown) hair. Medium height. Hangs with a pack of tree other Russians. Looked very interesting but had an off putting attitude. Anyone had experience with her?
All in all a good trip but I was suprised by how empty it was for a Friday night. Sadly I won't be around this summer when World really shines :(
Katya sounds interesting, like a little challenge. I hope she works on sundays. ;)
My own experiences with Magda showed a different picture. Completely unrushed, talking and making jokes at the lower bar for times up to 1 hour (with weak sunday-night-business). In the room, she showed good attitude. Maybe it´s just a question of daily shape, business expactation vs. earnings and the often mentioned "chemistry".
In general, I agree to your remark, that a not so small number of girls seems to expect the men paying for cheering them up. Others, as Anka (as far as I experienced her attitude towards me), approach their potential clients in a very aggressive and not very respectful way - a sure method to be avoided by me now and in the future.
But, of course, the main reason for my answer is: RAMONA!!!
We should set up a fanclub, wearing towels in the national colours of Romania, wave Ramona-banners and shout speaking choirs everytime she enters the great hall. Of course it would be a little bit irritating (and Ramona herself might react a little bit scared), but it could be lots of fun... :)
Honestly spoken, I would rate Ramona high above Andrea in matters of GFE. Andrea is much more showy than Ramona and more active in approaching clients, but in the Room, Ramona is a GFE-class of her own. Ramona belongs to the top-three-performers in my nearly three years of FKKing. I hope that she won´tchange her attitude too fast.
Looking into both ladies´eyes, I can´t find real resemblance...
Have fun,
Novize
This thread has become very interesting to me. It is too bad that Anka has not taken my advice to try and always shake her cute little ass in the face of mongers and to be a playful schoolgirl- she must really be discouraged now but from what you guys say she is hurting her cause tremendously.
I love to watch Magda, looks- wise she is one of my all time favorite girls at World. Watching her work the young GI's on the couch in the relax zone for one or two hours or more before finally disappearing to a room is priceless, I wonder how much of that couch time those boys paid for. Magda and I sessioned once on my first or second day at World and it was strictly Magda in charge, which can be fun in a playful porn star way unless you really crave GFE with her. Since that time, Magda is upset with me since she somehow found out that I related too many analytical details of our first and last date on various fora and for this I am sorry. Magda, I promise I'll never expect GFE again. In fact, I would gladly walk on all fours and bark like a dog if she would let me sniff that ballerina's derriere again.
Beffen 1
Beffen´s post made me think a little bit about Anka and I have to relativize my yesteday´s statement.
Anka can be very nice and charming. And it must be an awful experience for a young girl to hang around at the club (nearly) the whole day without (nearly) any business, wasting time and being turned down by male guests regularly.
In addition, let´s do a short calculation: the girls has to pay 65 € entrance, fee, add 35 € for accomodation, Make-Up and other things. Makes 100 € a day she has to earn to pay her costs. Her pimp will get 50% of her earnings, so she has to do 4 rooms just to pay her costs. And that is a best case scenario.
So, a day with weak business is not just boring...
I can understand that the girls get mopey or agessive.
Nevertheless, I prefer to join the girls who react on the situation with more sedateness...
Have fun,
Novize
Last time I was at the FFKW was in November. I had such a great time with Christina and Gabriella (both from Poland I think). Since then I have only been reading about Romanian girls. Is there anyone who knows what happened to Christina and Gabriella?
I will be visiting the FFKW again the last week from April. I hope the weather will be better and that there will be more girls. Maybe someone of you will be there also.
Thanks,
Pilot 7
Novize,
I'll be back at World this Friday. Hope Anka is in a better mood, she does look incredible. I agree that the job is not for everyone. However, all the girls are there willingly and they have it a heck of a lot better than working girls in most countries. I didn't think the girls had pimps. Leach boyfriends maybe. I remember a discussion about this before. Anyone remember the conclusion? One of these days we need to find an ex provider to run the numbers for us to see what the income is really like.
Any info on Irina?
Boka D
Some silly series of conferences in Frankfurt has left me unable to find a room under my company budget of $230. Hmmm. Maybe I could just sleep at FKK World. That might be a passable hotel name to people back in the U.S. Do they take CC's for entrance? If only it could be... :)
My proposal for a hotel-name is "Hotel Grüninger Hof"...
And yes, they accept credit cards.
Booking hotline is +49 6404 659388
:) ;) :)
Have fun,
Novize
Pilot,
Christina is still working at World. Gabriella is working at Oase, I think.
If you can manage to visit World on sunday, May 1st, you´re "booked"... ;)
Boka,
Most foreign girls have pimps, whatever that means. They will hardly ever tell you. In Germany, pimpig is not a job description, but a crime. So no pimp wants his girl(s) to talk about his profession...
Whether the girls are there willingly is a matter of definition. If they have it better than working girls or not depends on their attitude and their "boyfriend". Both of it is out of our control, so we shouldn´t think too much about it.
Their "gross income" varies from 200 € to 1000 € on an average day. It depends on the attractivness of a provider, her attitude and the services she offers. Girls who refuse anal or CIM will surely be at the lower end. 1000 € is an amount that only a few top providers will reach in average. A solid average "gross income" should be approx. 300 €/day.
Sorry, I have no information about Irina.
Have fun,
Novize
@ Pilot7,
Gabriella is now working at Oase. Was she really that good? Never went with her, but last week at Oase she was there just looking at me and others in an angry, not very endearing posture. She gives off vibes that she hates you, even though she may not know anything about you...I'm surprised somebody really wants to find her.
Ortos is right about Gabriella. I had a session with at Oase and she was pretty bitchy. I will avoid her from now on. Good news for Pilot though. With that attitude she will probably not be booked that often and therefore available.
Cheers,
Dedalus
hotel world i think is possiable and it was less than 230 dollars i think. Someone posted it here before. Also some girls told me abotu a american that had done it before. (i think it was more of a gode to get me to the room) down side was you could not use the room until late. I forget when try a search and you might get it.
secondly the wages of the girls. I will say that i understand the motive but it is liek you get a bad deal either way. If it is deal you cant sit 2 min with out being attacked but the girls you dont want. When you take a girl she wants extras and wont shut up about it. (once i had a heavy german girl that i only went with because she was friends with betty fron cuba damn i had to push her off of me to not CIM because i am sure she would have charged me last time i go with a girl just becuase here friend is good*.) then if it is busy real busy then you get the rush job from all but the best girls and even sometimes from them. SO i like the early afternon of fridays and saturdays and even sundays. just busy enough most times to keep them off you case quiet enough to get some couch time with a regular or even a new fav. and plent of room to lay around and enjoy the facilities.
*betty is not great GFE but a crazy PSE she also speaks good english and does anal for a charge of course
Boka D- Yes, there are locked VIP rooms that you can sleep in for 100 euro, from 4 or 5 AM until 10 AM,and then if you want to stay the next day you must pay another 65 euro by 11 AM. And I too hope Anka is doing better- when she gets into it she is a little hottie. She needs to carpe diem.
Pilot- I see you have done the Christina/Gabrielle threesome experience too? -it is incredible. Lil Christine sold that one when she joined Gabrielle and me on the couch one day. Poor Christine is having back problems but is at World when she works.
And Dedalus. Gabrielle? Bitchy?? - hell yes. After declining to go with Gabrielle to a room as a solo since, she has been bitchy to me as well, to the point where I had to tell her I didn't want to hear from her at the bar one night. She can be hot, as Desert Fox knows, just very moody but who needs that?
beffen
Beffen, Ortos, Novize,
It was my first posting on the board and I’m very happy to get so many reactions from you all.
Fist of all I’m glad that Christina (she’s one of my favorites) is still in the World. And I hope to meet her again in April. And yes I must admit I had some wonderful experiences with Christina and Gabriella. Most regrettable I’m not that lucky to have the threesome experience with them. Gabriella indeed is sometimes a little bit crazy I think but when she is in a good mood, she really is HOT.
Maybe someone can tell Christina there will be a visit from Belgium at the end of April. She will know who it is (hopefully)!
Novize, we will probably be there on the 27th and on the 29th of April. We will be on holiday in Germany (Cochem/Mozel) until Sunday and we will need Saturday to recover from our trips to the FKKW. If you only get there 3 times a year you have to do it good. Maybe you can join us?
Boka D, there is a very good hotel in Giessen - “Hotel Tandreas” ([url]www.hotel-tandreas.de[/url]).
I have stayed there myself a few times and it’s perfect (+- 100€) and most of all it’s only a few kilometres from the FKKW.
Greetings,
Pilot 7
Having slept a night over it, I think there might occur some problems regarding the hotel-issue:
1. FKK-World will most probably not be able to set up a bill as "Hotel Grüninger Hof" or any other name than it´s own.
2. The CC-receipt will certainly not show a hotel-name at all.
3. As far as I know, the club charges 10% fee on CC-payments.
100,00 € room fee
65,00 € entrance fee
16,50 € CC-fee
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181,50 € overall per night.
At the current exchange rate this would be approx. 242,40 $/night, that´s above your company´s limit.
If you can find a solution for problems 1 and 2, you might call the phone number I mentioned below. If you stay there for more than one night, they might be willing to bargain.
If not, did you try to book a hotel near World? Giessen/Pohlheim might be quiet unaffected by a trade fair happening in Frankfurt.
Have fun,
Novize
For those interested in team mongering, I'll be at FKKW this Thursday and Friday. Can pick people up in Frankfurt if needed. Also have some V to share. Not sure if I got a bad batch and would like others feedback.
Oh, I was serious about expensing a room there. There's nothing blatantly obvious in the name. At least not to Americans and maybe I could pay cash and get them to write a paper receipt. Too bad I didn't know they had overnight rooms sooner.
[QUOTE=Member #2974]Having slept a night over it, I think there might occur some problems regarding the hotel-issue:
1. FKK-World will most probably not be able to set up a bill as "Hotel Grüninger Hof" or any other name than it´s own.
2. The CC-receipt will certainly not show a hotel-name at all.
3. As far as I know, the club charges 10% fee on CC-payments.
100,00 € room fee
65,00 € entrance fee
16,50 € CC-fee
-----------------------
181,50 € overall per night.
At the current exchange rate this would be approx. 242,40 $/night, that´s above your company´s limit.
If you can find a solution for problems 1 and 2, you might call the phone number I mentioned below. If you stay there for more than one night, they might be willing to bargain.
If not, did you try to book a hotel near World? Giessen/Pohlheim might be quiet unaffected by a trade fair happening in Frankfurt.
Have fun,
Novize[/QUOTE]You can split up the charges so that only the room would be billed. That would get you under the per diem of your company. Most companies don't really care what name it is billed under. They assume you know better. However, is it risk losing your job if someone associates the name with a FKK. You never know. There is always someone at work that puts their nose is everyone else's business.
I am in Frankfurt through March 23.
If anyone wants some company on a trip to World, just drop me a private message.
In order of appearance:
----Thursday----
Anka:
Tall, skinny/lithe, medium length red hair, 21, country?
She seemed in a better mood than last time and she sure looks lovely, so why not? She was willing to spend some time on the couch. Good sign, but nothing memorable. Once we got to the room I was very suprised to find that BJ & DATY were not on her list of approved activities. I got the feeling I was there to entertain her, not the other way around. Got bitched at for coming too soon (first of the night, what can I say...). She is definately not a GFE and post sex activity mostly involved her staring in boredom at the wall while ignoring anything I said. Minus the hangups she could be someones great PSE, just not mine. She did say something about needing "a good hard fuck". She looks great, but I didn't feel the chemistry, went for it anyway. We've all done and regretted it, some of us just never learn the lesson. Oh, she had a 21st (As I recall) birthday this past Wednesday.
Would not repeat.
Ramona:
Romanian, 26, tall, long black hair, a little extra weight around the middle, tends to hang out by herself in the back left corner of the main room.
Ramona's popularity has spread and she can be hard to find. Quite the busy girl. She never rushed me though, not from couch to room and not from the room after finish. Really really excellent GFE with a good level of playfullness in the room. There's no excuse to go to World without seeing Ramona. She works every day, usually until 0500. She's not perfect but her good qualities far outweight any minor faults. Also, she mentioned something about going on vacation next month for three (I think) weeks.
Would repeat daily.
Daniela:
Romanian, half spanish, medioum heigth, medium length brown hair, 29.
Wow. A very down to earth girl. One of the few willing to splash around in the pool. Friendly and fun to talk to. Very PSE in the room. Has a roaming tongue... As opposed the Anka, the post sex activies here involved her continued efforts to get me going one more time... One of those girls who really likes sex and wants lots of it. My idea of a great PSE. A very nice find.
Would repeat.
----Friday----
Cordelia:
Nor romanian, token female WSG member
Difficult to review one of our own.... Lets just say that she is very good at certain things and has the pussy of a 20yo girl. Some interesting peircings.
From what I saw Cordelia was quite the busy girl. Some of the other girls could definitely learn from her. She has business cards! I should have had mine autographed.
Would repeat.
Anda:
Romanian, medium/short height, short brown hair.
Playfull and feisty. Excellent BJ. Willing to go further than most on the couch. Not really a GFE. Conversation and cuddling is limited. Not really a PSE either.
Somewhere in between. Feisty is really the best way to describe her, in the room and out. Doesn't shortchange the time but doesn't extend it either. Great body, knows how to use it. Can be hard to find at times.
Would repeat.
Hanna (sp?):
Hungarian, tall (167cm), skinny/lithe, short red hair, 20 (I think), used to work at FKKW 2.
One of the best looking girls in the club. Great model like body, no clue how to use it. The sex and BJ were't really pleasurable. Had that bored, staring in to space, "I don't want to be here" look I usually associate with Russian girls. Interesting to talk to though. She seems like a nice person, but...
Would not repeat if free.
Ramona:
Well, you know by now...she rocks.
Seems a little shy. Won't approach me if I'm chatting with another girl. Will stand by somewhere close and wait for me. Very sweet. Anyone else get this behaviour? Saw her fully clothed on the way out. Didn't recognize her until she came over to say hi. Was unrecognizable and about 2 feet shorter.
As mentioned before, she is going to be on vacation for a couple of weeks next month.
Stephanie/Stefka:
Bulgarian, short, medium length brown hair, dark tanned skin, been here 3 years, used to work at Atlantis.
A fun little girl. I hadn't planned another session but she was playfull in the pool and I've never had bad sex with a Bulgarian, so... Again, one of the girls willing to play around and jump in to the pool or sauna with nothing expected.
Claims to be the real sister (as she put it, "one mama, one papa" of another girl working there (Viola). Good sex. Similar experience to Anda. Something didn't quite click with us though.
Wouldn't repeat, would recommend to a friend.
Cut and paste your post to somewhere safe before you submit or you will be typing it thrice!
Saw a "new to me" girl who says she has been there two years. Olga, Russian, tall, red hair. Any info?
Had the pleasure of running in to a young lady I haven't seen since October. Jen, german, short, blond, glasses. No GFE, just good fun sex. Claims she goes to the Partytreffs after work. Unfortunately she was going as I was coming. Had a great time with her before. Haven't read anything about her here lately. As a German she is somewhat unique. Info?
Details... one of the girls mentioned that she makes about 500 Euro a night, stays in a local hotel for 17 a day, takes a taxi to work, and doesn't pay any taxes. There's an idea for income and expenses.
Let me go out on a limb here and suggest that the kino sucks. Compared to the one at Palace, it is unused, uncomfortable, and has bad visual quality. I suggest they replace it with a public play and sex room. Lots of cushions, chairs, and flat surfaces.
One of the girls had a customer take of his condom while he was behind her and tried to reenter without letting her know. She was pretty shaken up. I guess it can be hard for the girls to tell the good guys from the bad guys (us of course) and so we suffer for their stupidity.
I've noticed the youngest providers look great but the service usually sucks. I'm thinking about subjecting myself to a 23+ rule.
Some of the girls seem a little pouty (or worse) when you turn them away. Wish they would accept that every girl is not going to be a match for every guy.
I've really come to like the girls that are willing to fool around and just have fun. Pool, sauna, dancing, etc... In the end I think it earns them more business and I wish more of the girls were like that. It really helps the atmoshphere. Fun outside the room is usally fun in the room as well.
I passed on Andrea twice. She seems a little more jaded than before. Also maybe a little moody if you end up with another girl. Just my impressions.
The girls definitely talk shit about customers...
Staying around till closing seems to be a good idea. Around 2-3 the place clears out and the girls are very willing to spend time or play around. Really they just want some company.
I was talking to some of the girls. Some of them are aware about the online posts. Some are cool with it, most were a little wary. The biggest concern I heard is that we are posting what goes on in the room.
FKKW 2, anyone been there?
Boka
Damn I wish I could remember all their names.
It's like I was telling this one girl while I was getting drunk at the Sports Bar, usually I prefer blondes, but this trip it seemed I was seeing nothing but brunettes. Then again I guess it doesn't really matter what color their hair is when they're sucking my dick.
Did anybody like Janet? The 18 year old with the big firm bouncy tits? What beautiful young tender juicy pussy that was.
NB
it is quite a change to go to an fkk knowing that you will meet someone who is not primarily interested in extracting euros from your wallet (secondarily interested - of course you pay the usual rates - but not primarily ;-) ), does not fabricate fantasy stories about herself and is genuinely keen to get to know you. and wants really good sex herself.
it was early on friday. i recognized cordelia as soon as i entered the big main room and waved from the corner. she came hastening over to meet me as if greeting an old friend. heads turned over at the bar. it was the start of her second spell at world and she was genuinely pleased to have been welcomed back so warmly by the staff and girls. all she now had to do was start to work. i was her first scalp, and of course i had firmly planned this to be so. but the great pleasure for me was that our (good and lengthy) session was framed by long chats, which continued at various quiet moments in the afternoon. so, guys, if you want to do yourself a great favour, you’ll zip along that a5 motorway to meet a very interesting, kind person and joyfully sexy lady this week while she is still there. it will be a day with a difference for you.
cordelia was ever curious as to who my second (and last, time was short) kill of the day was going to be. she lost her bets, because i eventually reeled in christine from poland. in fact, it started inauspiciously, i was getting bad, indifferent signals from christine, but memory told me that this blonde beauty had been given good reports on the forum, so i decided to see what would happen. but hear this: no sooner in the room and she was cautioning me, she had heard from the girls i must be from the forum and had seen me talking to the english woman, and no reporting, ok, no reporting, she didn’t want unbearable guys bringing the reports to reception and the bar and demanding christine, and the service they had read about :-) :-) apparently this had happened to her in the past. i responded the only proper way, by telling her we could abort the session if she had no “lust”. of course she had “lust”.
so here’s the report, guys :-) : i took christine to the big room with the trapeze hanging from the ceiling. know the one i mean? the one with the extra high ceiling for this purpose. her speciality is to swing sexily around the room on the trapeze, and when you are ready, fly in, swooping down from one corner and impaling herself on your member. hair flying, eyes closed, no hands. incredible. really. you must try it. go on, go to the bar this week and ask for christine, the trapeze artist, ask her to do it for you, and tell her i recommended her. she will be absolutely delighted. :-) :-). well no, on second thoughts, don’t do that, and careful with ambitious impalements too, if i were you. but no, christine, i know you read the reports and you will not silence or muzzle tosc, free-flying spirit of the ether, on a forum like this. but i will say something in all seriousness: you were a second, very very good session indeed.
Boka D,
Olga, the tall, red-haired russian girl is really not new to World. I never had the pleasure to share a room with her (I´m just asking myself, why. Perhaps I´ll get a chance to approach her this afternoon ;) ), but all guys I know who had had this pleasure, were talking about a great session afterwards.
Novize
I would avoid Olga. She is really mechanical and not a gfe. Nice eye candy though, and that gets her enough business. Most regulars avoid her for the attitude.
I finally got to read the reports from Cordelia's and Shiatsu's visit to World last month and felt that I should offer a bit of gratitude to her. Cordelia: thank you for posting about your time in World and the perspective you gave. it was quite interesting to read about what the girls' view is. I do notice that, for the most part, they do take great care and pride in their appearance. Their hair is just so, the makeup applied, and even the perfume (when applied) compliments the package. More often that not, it's the package that closes it for me. I tend not to go for the rushed experience (except for that Romanian girl who cornered me in the downstairs hallway) and the converstaion/caressing on the couch helps set up the session.
It was quite interesting, but my first time in World, I spent nearly two! hours talking with Gabriella from Poland. During this time, we talked at length about the FKK experience from her perspective. I was blown (literatively and figuratively :>) away by her frankness and view on life. While she did not have any friends or acquaintainces there, she did confirm that the girls don't talk about the men much. In fact, her complaint was that too many of the girls wanted to be her friend. She simply wanted to keep the work separate from her private life, which I tend to agree with. In any case, it was a rare instance when the girl just wanted to talk without any guarantee for €50 notes (which I later doubled down anyway).
Maybe not in World,
But in some other clubs, where the girls have been working there together for a long time they do talk about a lot of customers. I have been to the room with some girls in some of my regular clubs for the first time and they alredy know quite a bit about what i like and don't like in the room.
I have also had a lot of girls tell me about other guys and what they are into.
Sorry to break the illusion guys.
Maybe not everybody at World,
but some girls definitely tlak to each other about the men in the clubs. Certainly a lot of regulars are known by the girls, and information on them is exchanged.
euro
March 20th, the beginning of spring – and the first halfway sunny weekend without snow this year. During the short walk from the parking lot to the entrance of my “summer camp” I was full of pleasant anticipation for the things to come in the next months. The sun was shining, the birds were singing and I could already imagine myself lying on one of the canvas-chairs beneath the outdoor-pool, talking with the girls as they walk by or just watching the happy couples on their way to or back from one of the huts… Club-life can be great!
But this were dreams of the future. At the moment, it´s still too cold to stay outside for long…
Due to the party that had happened the evening before, there were only a few women and male guests at World, when I arrived at 2:30 p.m. – it became much more lively in the late afternoon and evening.
I had a nice and interesting talk with Cordelia before I made my initial tour through the club to see who´s there and what´s new. For the first time this year I walked through the garden, too and recognized that the outdoor-pool was being cleaned by the janitor. Great times ahead… ;)
I placed myself at the upper bar and had a cappuccino, when Romanza/Ramona approached me. After a nice, absolutely unrushed warm-up at the bar we had a wonderful session in one of the VIP-rooms.
Her stats again:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for great GFE
I placed myself on a couch near the dining area after this session and was lost in thoughts, when a blond, Russian girl approached me: Katharina from Belorus or Russia (perhaps Boka´s Katya?). Katharina was one of my favourite girls at World in summer of 2003. She had worked at Oase and Atlantis before World´s opening in 2003 and went back to Atlantis in autumn 03. She quit the job in December 2003, but is back in business now – at least for some weeks. I remember a lot of what she told me back in 03 (and what she did to me... ;) ), but not her origin. I wasn´t ready for the next session and so she left me after a short small-talk.
Later in the evening I was ready for the next session, and so I approached Katharina at the upper hall. After some minutes she asked me to take a wlk with her and I agreed. To my surprise, she didn´t go for a room immediately, she headed towards the Relaxzone first, where we chatted for about 15 minutes, until finally I suggested to go for a room.
Katharina had been very conservative in the Relaxzone, but this changed as soon as we were in the room. We had a wonderful GFE-session, second not even to my sessions with Ramona! Katharina plans to stay for some more weeks before going back home and eventually coming back to World in September.
Her stats:
name: Katharina
origin: Belorus or Russia
born: ~ 1978
hair: blond, straight, long
figure: slender, C-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for great GFE
After some sleep I looked out for Ramona or Katharina for the final session. Katharina had already left the club (she works in the dayshift), but sweet Ramona was still there. Great session again. As she told me she will go on vacation on April 8th and plans to come back on April 26th.
My next visit is planned for April 3rd.
Have fun,
Novize
From the descriptions Novize’s Katharina sounds like Boka D’s Katya. But maybe Boka will confirm.
What has been confusing me for 3-4 weeks now is that I have my own Katya at World! Another beauty, another good, unrushed GFE performer, another one from Belarus (Minsk, or so she says). Everything sounded as if Boka D’s Katya was the same girl. But the one I met 4 weeks ago is not blonde, rather has longish curly mid-brown hair. I thought she might have dyed her hair, but, no, last Friday she was there again with the same hair. And she has a tattoo (don’t ask me where, I can never remember). So it does look as if there are two.
As I rarely repeat, I didn’t speak with “my” Katya last Friday, leaving it at a hello and many smiles during the afternoon. Stupid.
Does anyone know “my” Katya? Other clues: just started when I met her. Speaks good German, next to no English. Very pretty round face with large sensuous lips. Said she was 22. About 165 cms. She hangs around with red Olga and another Russian with long blonde hair (or is THIS BD’s Katya?). All very confusing. Just have to go back to sort all this out :>) At any rate “my” one is also a recommend.
On Saturday I arrived at World at about 16:30. For This was my seventh visit to World since I discovered its delights in September last year. Unfortunatly the selection on offer could not compete with last Autumn, however there was plenty on offer, especially if you like Romanians.
For the first half hour I cruised around checking out the sights and then I ran in to my all time favorite Andrea as she was arriving. It was interesting to see her fully dressed. It's funny how men probably spend their life wondering what women we see would look like naked. I now find my self doing the opposite at the FKK's. Thankfully Andrea looked as good as I hoped she would. After a quick chat, Andrea headed off to get ready for work.
Twenty minutes later Andrea was ready for work and thankfully came looking for me to start her day. We headed down stairs to the relaxation zone to catch up with what's happened in the past three months since we last met. We then headed off to a room for two hours of bliss. I seem to have an Andrea addiction, I just can't have a short session with her.
Later that evening I was approached by Hanna (not 100% sure??) of Hungary. I couldn't help feeling that she may have been Romanian, but at the end of the day I didn't care. Hanna has a very petit body in the Andrea mould and a very nice face. Unusually she was not wearing platforms, so the was none of the usual shrinkage once in the room.
The session with her was memorable in a negative way as it seems that my Andrea session had taken it out of me. I will give Hanna high marks for effort. She only gave partial GFE, but perhaps she will be better second time around, which I am willing to try.
DD
After visiting Palace and Oase early in the day, it was time for my second visit to World for the weekend.
Upon entering the main room, to my "relief" my beloved Andrea was no where to be seen, so for the moment my addiction wasn't going to get the better of me and cost me a couple of hundred euro.
After cruising around for a while I decided to sit down upstairs and see who approached me. After a short while, I was approached by a blonde Romanian whos name escapes me. She told me she was 24 but looked older (which she probably was). It was her first week at World and she said that she used to work in a private house in Hannover.
After a little while kising on the couch (lover to try an thrust her tongue in) we headed of to the Cinema for some BBBJ. Eventually we went into a room where the BBBJ continued until it was time for some fucking. She was quite a moaner. I would like to think that it was me making her do it, but I'm sure it was just part of the "show". What ever the truth, it did it's trick and before too long I was complete. It was one of the few times at an FKK that I had a 30min session with no extras and I throughly enjoyed it €50 well spent :-)
A little later I ran into Hanna of Hungary who I met the night before. This time she was wearing platforms which made it strange to be talking to her at eye level. I had a brief chat to Andrea as well, but as I was totally spent, even my addiction for her couldn't stop me from going to my hotel for a well deservered rest.
After visiting World, Oase and Palace on the weekend, I I still think that World is by far the best club for me. I feel so much more comfortable there than in any other place. I just can't get into Oase and Palace, while I like it, it's probably too small when it's busy.
World is far from perfect, but if the same level of quality girls return with the spring as there were last September........ :-)
DD
FKK World is a "must go" place for every true hobbyist. I finally made it during my last FKK Tour. As for novices, the last complete report about FKK world needs to be found a few hundred reviews before, find hereafter my complete review.
I found FKK World using my GPS and entering the following adress GruningerWeg 35415 Pohlheim-Garbenteich. As there is no street number, the GPS stopped me in the middle of the road. But a few hundred meters further, there was a clear sign indicating FKK World.
Without GPS, here again a quote past of the very usefull FKK World for Dummies (didn't try it):
Start at Kaiserslautern in A63 direction Mainz ~ 65 km.
At junction Mainz-Sued change to A6 direction Darmstadt/Frankfurt ~ 20 km.
At junction Moenchhof-Dreieck change to A3, direction Frankfurt ~ 10 km.
At junction Frankfurter Kreuz change to A5, direction Kassel ~ 60 km.
Leave A5 at exit Fernwald.
At the exit turn right. Next possibility left, at the next crossing turn right. At the traffic light turn left. Next possibility right, then again right towards a sporting field. Stay on this street, passing a railway junction. Now you can see FKK-World left hand. ~ 10 km.
FKK World opens every day from 10am till 5am. I Stayed there all the day (19 hours in paradise!). There are two parking lots P1 and P2. Once out of the parking, you walk toward the entrance. On the right side, there is a building with private rooms for the girls (they can rent a room 15 Euro/day). The entrance is the building on the left side.
Surprisingly, there is not the usual buzzer, you enter directly in the lobby. I haven't seen during my entire stay any visible security guards, they probably don't have to fear anything, as it is well known that the Club belongs to the Hells Angels. You pay the entrance fee (65 euro) to the lady behind the counter, you give you'r shoe size and she will give you you'r locker key and you'r first bath towel. At any time later, you can take new towels at the entrance. You'r sandals will be waiting for you inside you'r locker. The lockers room is the door behind the counter on the left side.
You undress yourself, putting everything exept you'r wallet in the locker. You'r wallet can be left in a separete security locker (same number and same key as the previous locker), also in the locker's room. This is more convenient for you when you will need to pay the girls after every session. In the locker rrom, you will also find the bin where you will have to leave you'r sandals when leaving the club, as well as a bin for the towels.
The showers are right behind the locker's room, as well as the toilet. You are supposed to take a shower at entrance and after very session. There are other showers in the basement of the building. You can change you'r towel after every shower.
Put your towel around you'r whaist (this is not easy for the first time) and enter the paradise, right behind the curtain of the locker's room!
FKK World is the house of a former millionaire, and the facilities are by far the biggest of all the FKK in Germany. The main room looks like a disco with a bar (non alcaholic drinks are for free all the day long), a dancing stage, disco lightings, numerous couches and plasma TV screens showing porns (who is going to look a porn here, as what you see for real looks much better!). this is the main meeting place, most girls will be here. Behind a curtain there is a movie theatre showing also porns. Here is usually where a lot of couch action is happening. Close to the main room is also the dining room, a big dining table and a buffet offering also all day long food for free. Feel free to eat toghether with a girl here.
Downstairs is a big indoor swimming pool. Most people seem to fear to swim here, but it is nice to sit around and look the nakes girls pass allong. There is also a huge Jacuzzi, a massage salon, a Hammam and two Saunas around. A nice place to hang around is the cozy lounge with fireplace and numerous couches. At the back there is an alcaholic bar including Champagne, but few use this facility, as you need to pay additional for it.
Outside there is a large garden outdoor pool and sun deck, but usefull only during summer.
Everything is very clean, all the night long, the management takes care about this. The management is very helpfull and friendly.
Atmosphere is very relaxed. Most customers you will encounter in this FKK are 30-40 years old Germans, a few Turkish and an occasional American. I discussed a while with an Afro-American having a great time here (like me!). There was also an Asian American that night, but didn't get in touch with him. I always wonder if there is another WSG member. We should have like a small distinctive sign in order to recognize ourself. If the girls get to know it, they might even take care also to give us the best service!
Now, most important, the girls! Expect about 25 girls between 10am and 6pm, and between 12pm and 5am. But during 6pm and 12pm, both "shifts" are present, so expect about 50 girls in the evening. Only Oase has a bigger line up. The girls are nearly all aged between 20 and 25, and nearly all rated 7-8. A few dogs (overweighted or overaged), but also a few 9 stunners. Most of the girls are Eastern European (Russian, Hongarian, Ukrainian, Romenian...), a few German, a few blacks (Caribbean or African), and some occasional other nationality. Diversity and quantity enough to find what you are looking for. All girls are naked, so WYSIWYG!
All girls speak German, but most will speak also enough English.
Pricing is very simple: 50€ every 30 min (includding BBBJ, FS and nearly always DFK), and 50 Euro additional for CIM or COB. Action can happen anywhere, but most commonly you will go with her to one of the numerous bedrooms. No key hassling like in some Dusseldorf area FKK. The bedrooms are quite simple, some however are more luxious and have for example mirrors.
It is possible to hire a VIP room. This room is even available for 100€ between 5am and 10 am. If you agree with a girl to stay, this allows you to stay in FKK World till the next day, that means 24 hour a day sex!
You can either approach the girl, or she will approach you. Discussing is free, as well as touching, but once DFK or BBBJ is starting, the session is supposed to start. The girls in FKK World are allowed to softly hassle you, wich makes all the scene very erotic. My advise is to try to get the girl to know a bit before the session, to be sure there is a good chemestry.
I stayed for 19 hours in FKK World, having 6 sessions, but the time between the sessions is part of the fun. I remember at 3am being so tired, lying on a couch, looking to all the nakes girls around me, having two girls gently hassling me, trying to get my dick again ready for a session with two girls (pricing 50 Euro each, that simple!). Paradise!
I had a very nice session with a small lightskinned petite Cubana (can't remember her name). She was happy to speak Spanish with somebody. As soon as a girl starts to speak Spanish, she looks much more sexy to me. I love latina girls! There was a very nice chemistry between us, she was very active during the sessions.
That night, I had sex with Yasmeen Bleeth from Baywatch! At least I couldn't see the difference. Her real name is Maria, she is from Romania, has 24 years old and some incredible beautiful blue eyes. Yes, some girls look really like movie stars.
When in FKK, you will sometimes get a true GFE. I met a 24 year's old 9 rated girl named Sarah, French and Iranian Origin. The type of Mediteranean style that drives me crazy. She was happy to be able to speak French with me. We discussed a long time together at the bar, discovering that whe had a lot of things in common. While talking together I looked inside her beautiful eyes and felt like falling in love. She took a shewing gum. I asked if she had one for me. It was her last one, so she kissed me and gave me her shewing gum. Once in the room, it was a true GFE session. I won't give you the technical details of our session, we made love.
After the session, we ate together. We stayed together nearly all the night, but sometimes I leaved hear, as she had to work also. Late in the night, she was tired, so was I, so we went together to sleep for half an hour in a bedroom, side by side. These are those moments that make FKK so magical, when you don't know anymore if you're a friend or a customer for her. My last session of the night was also with her. Hope to see her again.
Overall, FKK World is one of the best FKK, only Oase can compete with it. Facilities are better in World, Oase becomes overcrowded especially between 6pm and 12pm. The girls line up is probably better in Oase. I prefer may be Oase, as girls seem to earn more money there, are less pushy for sex late in the night and more willing to simply discuss.To choose between the two is a matter of personal choice and experience.
Thanks for that!
Some remarks about the "Extras":
COB is "Officially" priced at 50,- €, but is highly negotiable down to 0,- €.
Another Extra is anal, "officially" priced at 100,- €, but - as discussed here earlier - is negotiable down to 50,- €.
And a little correction: There is no Hamam at World, it´s a steambath.
Personally, I wouldn´t count a few minutes of DFKing or BBBJ on the couch against the clock, and I never had problems with that. But at least BBBJ seals a contract and you can´t/shouldn´t step back anymore.
Have fun,
Novize
Is Olga, a tall red hair russian girl, still in World?
Thanks
Thank you, but not only for your reaction on my report. Yes, as I tried to confirm that you where the same Novice I once discussed with about Oase, I discovered that somebody asked to bann me and that you defended me against him (see the section complaints about other members).
The guy complainted that I was spaming the Dutch section. In fact I have made the complete list of Dutch Brothels, similar to the famous Kaleus FKK Club Index. I think he didn't realize the job it is to make such a list, compiling all the available information (Yellow Page, WSG and Dutch forum reports, Internet sites, personal experience...). I always try to share all my available usefull information to the other members. I know it is impossible to have everybody as a friend, but I was quite disappointed about his reaction. When you look how some members are cladding up some sections! It's impossible to find usefulll information in some sections like the USA section or the Thailand section.
Anyway, hope to meet you once for real during my next FKK Tour Novice!
[QUOTE=Routard]Anyway, hope to meet you once for real during my next FKK Tour Novice![/QUOTE]
Send me a PM with your tour dates and I´ll try to get a ticket... ;)
Have fun,
Novize - with "z" ;)
Promised NoviZe !
Remy - Yes Olga is definitely there. But sh edoes not work everyday
I went to World three times over the holiday period. The atmosphere changed radically from day to day. It seemed to depend on the mix of women.
On the first day (Friday) there were very few men and the dominance of the Rumanians seemed to be overwhelming, despite half a dozen black girls. This nationality dominance would not be a problem except for the well documented tendency for the Rumanian girls to avoid couch action and for their habit of stopping men and expecting them to go to a room just because the girl says "ficky ficky", And of course the tendency to give less than the half hour in a room. So, I was unwilling to part with any euros on any Rumanian longshot. Things were tense - the girls were getting no customers - about 8 girls for each man I would guess. Even the lovely Rumanian Julia was trying to catch my eye (but I would not go with her as she nearly always finishes in a room after about 15/20 minutes).
However I met Andrea and she agreed to go to a room with me. Once we established that Cordelia was not going to come in and kill her we settled down. Usually our meetings are mainly talk but this time other things had become more pressing. I had written Andrea off after reading comments about her so was surprised to find that all her good points seemed to be better than before. She was by far the best sex worker I have paid to be with. After having been with her there really seemed no point in going with anybody else (which meant I had a long wait until Cordelia finished for the evening so we could go back to the hotel) .
Generally the atmosphere and lack of men gave the place a desperate feel and I wondered how long it could last. The huge numbers of Rumanian newcomers makes it hard for the club to get a good feel as there is so much turnover.
Worth mentioning is how friendly the staff are - maybe because they recognise me. It's always nice to be welcomed back. Being an Englishman makes me stand out
Day Three was a Monday. (I will report on Day Two later)And it was great . The club had a much better ratio of men to women - about 2 women for every man. And many of the girls were away . This meant there was no longer a sea of indistinguishable girls saying "zimmer, zimmer". The atmosphere felt very close to Atlantis - the girls were cheerful, and particularly downstairs were relaxing with the men. The girls were no longer desperate for every man so were able to relax and therefore give the men a better atmosphere.
I also notice a group of Rumanians who kept separate from the others and were offering a much more friendly service. None of the "I'm sitting here bored and you owe me 50 E attitude" instead "Hi, you're nice, can we chat together and have a cuddle" attitude - i.e open smiling friendly faces, This seemed a good sign
This all made me realise how fine a line there is between a brilliant club and a mediocre one. It's all down to intangibles of attitude. This particular evening was brilliant (I was there from 14.00 until 22.00)
I didn't get approached much but that was partly because the girls had realised that I am married to Cordelia and they assumed that I would therefore not go to a room. How wrong!. Some I would not go with since I saw that they did not give the half-hour to other men.
Andrea had declined my company when I caught her as she came out of the changing room, but 5 minutes later she asked me. I had a marvellous two hour session with her and we said goodbye, only to find that I had accidentally underpaid her, and almost run out of money. I had enough so was able to avoid being marched to the cashmachine by a stern Andrea. That's a professional worker. I would give her a 5* recommendation (the only person I prefer is Cordelia - but then I guess I would like people with similar attitudes and abilities around sex, people and life in general).
The only bad thing was that I can't go off with Cordelia as she was working!! (sometimes audibly...)
I left the club thinking it was the best I'd seen for a couple of years. Unlike on other recent visits to this and other clubs, most of the girls and the men were coming out of the rooms looking happy and cuddling. I noticed that Andrea, Cordelia and a couple of others always did this (even on other nights) and that their clients always looked like they had had a good time., There seems no point in paying to go to a room if when you come out the girl looks bored and walks ahead of you. I know I'm fussy but I expect decent service for my money
And if someone is in Frankfurt it would be worth the 30 minute drive to get there.
Provided the clients at FKKW keep an eye on which girls shortchange and make it clear they expect a bit of cuddling etc on couches etc then FKKW could be a reliably brilliant club. It has good facilities, the staff are friendly, the downstairs bar when open at weekends adds a relaxed positive feel, and the etnic mix of the girls is wider than it sometimes appears from the Rumanians occupying the upstairs couches near the bar
Hi Novize,
You posted these 3 hotels as being near FKK World , do you know exactly how they are from the club? Are any walking distance?
Zum Grünen Baum
Schiffenbergstr. 5
Garbenteich
06404/ 7152
very old-fashioned, not comfortable, but with 26,- €/night incl. breakfast very cheap.
Gasthaus Häuser
Linden-Leihgestern
Tel. 06403/ 69111
ETAP Linden
Gewerbegebiet Luckebachtal
Gottlieb-Daimler Str. 8
35440 Linden
Tel: (+49) 06403/ 75 37 3
Cheers
Fred
Ps I think you and Shiatsu should recieve a commision from the clubs for all the great information you both provide !!!!
"Zum Grünen Baum" is approx. 1 km away from World.
The two other Hotels are approx. 15 km away, too far for a walk, I think.
Have fun,
Novize
but it´s good to read that Andrea is still a top provider.
When the Romanians cry "fickie, fickie" or "Zimmer, Zimmer", it shows at least one good development: they have improved their german skills... :rolleyes:
The direct comparison of days one and three shows again, that a girl/guy-ratio of 2:1 is (beneath other factors) nearly perfect for a good day at a club.
Hoping for a good ratio on sunday,
Novize
This was the holiday weekend Saturday. Some of the girls had gone home so the number of girls was not as high as on the Friday. But first thing there were about 8 girls for each man (compared to Oase and palace where the ratio was much more even - in my report on Palace I mistakenly said I was there on Sunday - it was actually Saturday - too many FKK entrances addled my mind). So the atmosphere was a bit tense with the girls unable to get any custom.
However around 16.00 it picked up so the ratio came out about 2 to 1 - Member 2974 magic formula for success!. And suddenly the atmosphere changed - the girls relaxed as they realised they would at least make enough money to cover their entrance fees. The downstairs bar opens in the evening so the girls can take time out. My memory is a bit hazy but the number of men tailed off around 20.00 which is odd for a Saturday. So Cordelia and I left. This day was a bit of a non-event for me - I did not go to a room with anybody (having had a large amount of money extracted by my occasional companion Andrea the previous day!!) and other girls not really having learnt the art of selling themselves. The early evening was a foretaste of the excellent next day.
In general I do not think that Easter is a good time to go to FKK. For an English person the total shutdown which occurs in Germany at holiday times is a major shock - it permeates everything - especially the attendance at FKKs
Fred - Bear in mind that if you stay in Pohlheim there really is absolutely nothing to do in the area without a car apart from go to World (you could get a bus to and from Giessen if you wanted something in the day).
so if anyone is around i might see ya there. Second I would like to know if anyone had seen the outdoor area is it already runing or is it still to cold?
rd
I assume you fly into Frankfurt. How far the fkk clubs from town, can I take cab to them. Please help.
[QUOTE=Shiatsu]This was the holiday weekend Saturday. Some of the girls had gone home so the number of girls was not as high as on the Friday. But first thing there were about 8 girls for each man (compared to Oase and palace where the ratio was much more even - in my report on Palace I mistakenly said I was there on Sunday - it was actually Saturday - too many FKK entrances addled my mind). So the atmosphere was a bit tense with the girls unable to get any custom.
However around 16.00 it picked up so the ratio came out about 2 to 1 - Member 2974 magic formula for success!. And suddenly the atmosphere changed - the girls relaxed as they realised they would at least make enough money to cover their entrance fees. The downstairs bar opens in the evening so the girls can take time out. My memory is a bit hazy but the number of men tailed off around 20.00 which is odd for a Saturday. So Cordelia and I left. This day was a bit of a non-event for me - I did not go to a room with anybody (having had a large amount of money extracted by my occasional companion Andrea the previous day!!) and other girls not really having learnt the art of selling themselves. The early evening was a foretaste of the excellent next day.
In general I do not think that Easter is a good time to go to FKK. For an English person the total shutdown which occurs in Germany at holiday times is a major shock - it permeates everything - especially the attendance at FKKs[/QUOTE]You are forgetting the Sunday's where everything is closed! LOL! I find what makes a difference at a club is one or two girls who you really like. Seems like Andrea is the one for you. Hope Cordelia had a good time. I'm sure there is more than a few guys walking around with a smile.
Paper Poster - public transport - see my post (number 535 under this thread) Other members hav eposted directions under the Oase and Palace threads
Akibono - thanks, Cordelia had a great time and will be doing some brief postings soon
this is from cordelia. after 11 days at world. much of what was in my previous posts holds true, but some additional points may be of interest.
first, i was very sad to leave and have to come home to my proper job!! i had been very warmly welcomed by girls who had seen me before and the staff treated me like a longlost friend. i cannot stress enough how nice they were to me.
second. the sessions i had were generally very enjoyable, but whenever i met someone new i was unable to relax properly until i felt they were not going to try to cheat me. i estimate that over 30% of clients wanted to try sex without a condom or to have an extra without paying. these 30% make it difficult when going with any new man. i thought at first it was because i was new but other gitls said this was about average. these men were also usually the ones who were rough and sometimes were physically inconsiderate (one damaged my back by aggressive womanhandling). i took one man to reception to get the money he owed me.
on the other hand 70% were fine. and many of these were extremely lovely. these men got a better experience since they treated me with respect and consideration. several came back to the club specially to see me a second time. and some of them (german men) actually paid me a tip. this may be partly because i did not rush them into or out of rooms. i found many of the men to be lovely and charming as well as sexy. i always made sure that the men got the full half hour or hour - in the long run it does not pay to try to cheat. i was told by girls that the only way to succeed was to give good service - although some girls obviously don't do this and rely on their looks to get a constant supply of new (but not returning) customers. men should never go with someone who does not give the full time - if all men watched before they went to a room then the service level would be maintained
third. whilst the girls do not talk generally about the men, they did warn me off a couple of men who were known to be rude, and a couple of men were suggested as likely clients for me. this was not so much discussing the men but more a case of discussing the girls’ interests in relation to the men
fourth. it is really hard to spend all day approaching men, especially when there are 6 girls to every man. i did not want to harass the men but on the other hand i did not want to ignore them. it is not possible to tell whether a man is interested or not until i have draped myself all over him!! some of the girls deal with this by very assertive approaches and others by switching off from making the approach. i tried to watch how the more successful girls did it and then emulate them (in my own style). i tried to approach in a friendly way
fifth. when there are too many girls the atmosphere gets very tense. we al feel under pressure to get a man and the men feel under pressure – so many of them go and hide ib the sauna or by the television. the girts still however co-operate – telling each other if all the men are kaputt or having a pause. if there are no men then not only was it difficult to earn money but it was frustrating not to get any sex for hours on end
sixth, my german has improved. but many of the words are not ones found in my german textbook!!
seventh. the girls found it hard to understand how shiatsu and myself could both be in the club at the same time (as we were on three days), shiatsu had to allay th egirls fears that i would kill them!! and some of the girls said that if their man came to a club and went with a girl they would kill him and the girl. but they gradually got used to us and found it less confusing
eighth. i enjoyed wearing the oster party bunny ears. where else could a girl wear platforms and bunny ears and nothing else?
i had a really good time and was really pleased how i handled myself. being in competition with a horde of 20 year olds was a bit risky but i did really well and they accepted me as one of their own. obviously many men only wanted young girls but there were many man who wanted the benefits of someone with more experience. and many of the girls liked having someone older there as it validated their career choice,
[QUOTE=Shiatsu] many of the girls liked having someone older there as it validated their career choice,[/QUOTE]
This is one of the great lines of all times! Can I quote it in some business presentations?
This post as some of your previous posts were, is a watershed in the history of posting on this board. Amazing, invaluable intel for all FKK afficianados. Imagine having a "plain clothes" (or "Oster ears" well, you know what I mean) agent infiltrating the FKK ranks. Unbelievable. Jackson should give you the poster of the year award.
And I'm sure if you'd like another career, MI6 or the CIA may be interested in having you lecture their new recruits on what it's really like to go "undercover" (well actually "above towel")
I am in awe of you!
Cordelia, thanks very much for the report. Fascinating as ever. When are you going back? :-)
But this is about something else. On 23rd March I reported my suspicion that there may be two Russian Katyas at the club, the one with long white-blonde hair that Boka D (and others) reported on, and a second one with shoulder length curly brown hair, whom I had met and had had a great experience with. OK, I admit, two Katyas is no great deal at a club which boasts at least three Andreas from different central European countries, but I was still curious. And the riddle so confused this forum that noone posted for seven full days – surely a record. :-) :-)
Well, I returned two days ago, April Fool’s Day, and discovered that I was right. There are two, although blonde Katya introduced herself to me as Katerina. They always hang around together, and go fishing around the club together. I was tempted to ask for a duo, but didn’t in the end.
I had noted a few prospects from this board’s recent reports on FKKW on a piece of paper, and against the name of Katya blonde I had noted “care, nothing special”. So I was prepared for a substandard session perhaps, although experience with Russians (and Czechs) has taught me to give them the benefit of the doubt, and go for it, whatever the reports. In the event I have to state my total disagreement with the “nothing special” bit, as far as Katerina is concerned. Maybe it was because she keeps a slight distance. It may put some off. But how often do we get the effusive, all-charm-and-smiles couch attack and rapid sub-towel homing in, only for it all the interest to be switched off like a light bulb on entering the room? A little distance is fine for me, I can try to break it down later. Anyway, I thought Katerina was bloody marvellous. Looks (23, 170 cms, C breasts, everything nicely proportioned), yes, she’s my type. After five minutes in the room I was extending to an hour, with an call option for three days more. Fine, honest, no-cheating, GFE-style sex. You are not interested in details, but for me the 69 session led me into a state verging on Racinian aesthetic cartharsis :-) :-) OK, as you have gathered, a Tosc recommend.
The April Fool, however, turned out to be me. Among my sessions was one I regretted with Inessa from Latvia (late 20’s, blonde, C breasts, maybe 168 cms). She’s aggressive in a friendly and persuasive way, but no sooner were we in the room, and the upselling began, as the service fell off. I disappointed myself with making such a bad choice with so many good alternatives around. But I had to admire her in retrospect: it takes a lot of nerve and routine to manage riding listless cowboy, preening in the mirror and examining your nails all at the same time. Inessa managed it effortlessly ;-) For my vote, one to avoid.
P.S. Thanks to Routard for his no nonsense driving directions. I have been to World often enough now, but I get lost every f***ing time, without fail. Same happens at Burgholzhausen (what is it that makes these flat Hessen landscapes all look the same, and why is it that, once in a village, I can never get out of it going in the right direction for the club?). In contrast to others I think the club site directions are a disaster – OK, maybe I am the disaster, but this time I found it immediately, thanks to R.
I find the trick to getting to Oase is to follow the signs to Ober-Erenbach until you see the sign pointing the way to Burguhausen. Works every time for me.
Just out of curiosity, how many men are not able to finish or keep it up? I find that my desire always exceeds my capability at these clubs.
Sorry to here that there are still 30% of guys having bad attittude in FKK. There will always be some dick heads, but 30% is way too much. The FKK girls gave me so much that I'm sad hearing that some mess it up. We often warn on this board about having the good attitude, not only because service will be better, but just because the girls deserve to be respected and treated well. Well guys, we have to keep on trying to educate some of the mongerers. Hope that the 30% are not WSG members.
Routard. None of the 30% were wsg members!!. The 30% is only a broad estimate of those who were inconsiderate or trying to pull a fast one (sex without a condom - the new girls always get asked to do this!), Only a very very tiny number were actually physically or verbally aggressive. So my 30% may have given slightly the wrong impression - 70% were very charming and lovely to me, 30% were not, but this does not mean that all 30% were dickheads. Thanks for your support
Akibono. Fair question, But I do not talk about what happens in the room. I will just say that, as other posts have disussed, many men worry about this
Iseeu - you flatter us. If working for the CIA involves walking around naked with lots of men watching your rear end then sign me up straight away (but Shiatsu will decline..). PS I am fed up having to wear clothes for the day job
Cordelia
Akibono - Shiatsu says - If a man has already had three sessions it is no surprise if he doesn't finish or even start!! especially without a little blue pill!! I often don't finish but that may just be a question of priorities....
Cordelia,
Little blue pills make it even less likely that the man will finish. One of the effects is that you are less likely to come. That is one of the reasons I love the ED drugs. It lets me stay up for up to an hour without coming. I do not power fuck the chicks for that whole time, I just sort of slow fuck for as long as I want, and as long as I still think the girl is not annoyed by it.
The girls get upset sometimes if they cannot bring me to come. They have a sort of ambition which makes them feel like they are not good if they cannot make their customers finish. I tell them it is no big deal, but I swear they give their all to make it happen. It is a competitive instinct.
30% is higher than i thought it would be, but it probably is similar if I take the stories of the girls into account.
dont have much timew to chat so just a quick report. First thanks to the members i meet there big help.
4 sessions
miricale
big black girl she seemed nice even if black is not my thing.
average service i will not repeat
ramona
wow what can i say she was great
a romanian black hair long
really a good girl to try if you have not yet but she leaves next week
Andrea
CZ she has been talked about enough she was super i can only recomend her if you like slim slavic girls she is perfect for you i would say she was the best p4p i ever had again thanks for the help
michelle
romania short hair
kind of standard would not repeat
rd
Has anyone actually stayed at the hotels Novize and other have mentioned as being near to FKK World. If so any information about quality would be helpful.
Hi
Soon I will have my first FKK experience and i will try FKK World after reading all the posts. I need your with everything need it to know to ease my first FKK experience. I'm 27 years old but look like 21-22, hope this is not a problem. Any info will be gladly appreciated.
I'll be in Frankfurt most probabely from 8 to 14 April and will be more than happy to meet with WSG members.
Also do you know places to buy Viagra or Cialis in Frankfurt ?
Thank you,
Niky
Hi Shiatsu,
I once stayed overnight at the "Altes Eishus" in Giessen when I took a detour on my way up to northern Germany to check out World in 2003.
It was ok for one night stay, i.e. the rooms were clean. The beds were kind of small, and I would not want to do anything else there but sleep. The staff did not speak English, but somehow I got by with my limited German mixed with some creative acting (well, kind of the same thing I do in FKK when dealing with non english speaking girls, can actually be quite fun sometimes ;-)
Chivaz
I stayed at this hotel too and would stay again. The rooms are small, beds are small, but I was comfortable and I wasn't that far from World. Plus it's also located in a neighborhood instead of a business district so it's quiet.
Doing my search on [url]http://hrs.de[/url] it also came back with the lowest price in the area.
There's a resteraunt downstairs, and Monika, the proprieter, and her daughter are two friendly and good looking babes.
NB
Shiatsu,
I have stayed in the Giessen Best Western Steinsgarten on three different occassions. Most of the time it runs about 75 Euros including a great Breakfast Buffett. Get a double room, ecspecially if your bring Cordelia. Try to get a room as high as possible to enjoy the nice view of Giessen. It is located in a very nice quite area, very clean rooms, nice service and is on the way from the Giessen Train Station to World. During the day I enjoyed taking walks to the central shopping areas AND took a day trip to
Marburg to check out the Medieval Castle and nice restaurants/shopping.
I made the reservations on [url]http://www.bahn.de[/url] website. Compared to the hotels I have stayed in Frankurt, a very nice change!
Hope to run into you again some day
Carnal1 (Live from Phuket,Thailand)
[QUOTE=Shiatsu]Has anyone actually stayed at the hotels Novize and other have mentioned as being near to FKK World. If so any information about quality would be helpful.[/QUOTE]I once stayed at the Etap. It is cheap german efficiency. good place to sleep and nothing else. also, very easy to find.
Niky,
The age thing is no problem. Maybe if you look like a US soldier with a buzz cut you might get a couple of girls who avoid you. Not because they have a problem with the war or anything, just because the soldiers are known for hard core sport-fucking, and a lot of girls don't like that.
Other than that there are no problems, just go to the clubs, sit next to someone who is willing to talk to you and ask him for tips.
Getting Cialis or Viagra without a prescription in Germany is near impossible. The germans take their pharmacies very seriously.
Remember germany is not a sex destination like Brasil or Thailand, it is not really a major industry. 95% of the customers at the clubs are locals, remember this is a wealthy country.
Enjoy yourself, if you have more specific questions feel free to post.
You should also try Palace in town, it gets great reviews.
Akibono: “Just out of curiosity, how many men are not able to finish or keep it up? I find that my desire always exceeds my capability at these clubs.”
Shiatsu: “If a man has already had three sessions it is no surprise if he doesn't finish or even start!! especially without a little blue pill!! I often don't finish but that may just be a question of priorities....”
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Toscana’s 1st Law of Sexual Dynamics states that “the desire of the adult male to propagate remains a life-long constant, but the frequency of his climaxes moves with increasing age in inverse proportion to his ability to afford them”. So sad, so true.
Now, if I think about it, I reckon that is the ultimate polite brush-off if you are bothered at FKKW when kaputt. Quote that one, and they would go away immediately. Not for a long philosophical think, but because they'd think you are really weird. :-) :-)
[QUOTE=Toscana]
Toscana’s 1st Law of Sexual Dynamics states that “the desire of the adult male to propagate remains a life-long constant, but the frequency of his climaxes moves with increasing age in inverse proportion to his ability to afford them”. So sad, so true.
Now, if I think about it, I reckon that is the ultimate polite brush-off if you are bothered at FKKW when kaputt. Quote that one, and they would go away immediately. Not for a long philosophical think, but because they'd think you are really weird. :-) :-)[/QUOTE]
I think the ultimate brush-off is to say: "I have no money left." Works (nearly) guaranteed...
Have fun,
Novize
...before Romanza takes a vacation... :)
On sunday, 3rd, I arrived at World at 1 p.m., showered, shaved, and took a look at the interesting line-up:
Fernando and Michael in the 1st row,
Jarno and Nick in 2nd,
Mark and Ralf in 3rd...
The race was quiet interesting, although disturbed by the stupid commentaries of the allways present Schuhmacher-fans... :(
But maybe you´re not interested in F1, so let´s go for something completely different...
The club is preparing it´s outdoor-facilities for the summer season. The outdoor pool is not fille yet, but teh canvas chairs are already in use. The huts have been renovated and can be used, when it´s just a little bit warmer than now...
And the club was more lively than the weeks before. Seems that lots of men waited for the first sunny days to go back to World again. The place was filled, but not over-crowded.
I met some fellow members and recognized again, how great it can be to meet congenial friends at the club.
My first session this day was with Katharina again. Although my first session with her two weeks before had already been very good, we had some improvement that day. I like this kind of development. Katharina´s service was completely unrushed, very good GFE with still some expectations for further improvements. A recommendation for all GFE-lovers from me.
Her stats again:
name: Katharina
origin: Russia (I asked her this time)
born: ~ 1978
hair: blond, straight, long
figure: slender, C-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for great GFE
Katharina plans to stay at World until end of April. Hurry, guys...
Romanza had just arrived when I was walking to a room with Katharina and looked a little bit sad when she saw us together. So I had to make up for this after the necessary recreation break - and, of course, I had to say goodbye to her until end of April, when she will hopefully return from her vacation. So I did. And in my judgment, shes not a recommendation, she´s a "must" for GFE-lovers!!!
Her stats:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highest recommendation for great GFE
The negative experience that night was, that there were too many girls who disturbed me when I was trying to get some sleep in the evening (as aleays, I drive directly to work after the club-visit and therefore I need an hour of sleep). Thought again of a "*****-dunking-tournament", but didn´t organize one...
My last chance for some sleep was to hide in the empty cinema, but all my hopes ware dashed by Georgia from Romania (? didn´t ask, just guessed), who gave me the final blowjob for this night (I was too tired to do anythang than just lay on the couch and watch her working). A nice girl, but because of my physical and mental state at that time I´m not able to give a judgement.
ButI can give some (guessed) stats:
name: Georgia
origin: Romania
born: ~ 1983
hair: brown, curly, shoulder-length
figure: slim, B-breast
height: ~ 160 cm
tattoos/piercings: none recognized
other: funny voice, friendly
I tried to find Romanza after that for a second goodbye, but couldn´t find her anywhere. So I left the club with the intention to welcome her back again at May, 1st - and in the meantime I will take care about Katharina.
Have fun,
Novize
I’m happy to report that my favorite club, which disappointed me a little on my last visit, is once again the unrivalled number one club in the area in my book.
I saw 8 girls over 2 days and they were all fabulous GFEs. There have been some complaints about the Romanians, but I don’t see why; the Romanians are my favorites here (followed closely by the Bulgarians). On the first day I had no interest in seeing anyone who wasn’t Romanian. On the second day I did a tour of Eastern Europe (Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, and Hungary). The girls I saw were:
Daniella, Romanian. 6-7 looks. 30 but still looks good. Long curly brown hair.
Looks like what’s her name from the movie Titanic. Her recent breast enhancement is tastefully moderate. She’s one of the most wild girls. She made a point of sucking me clean after removing the condom when we were done.
Alexandra, 8, half Greek half Romanian, 22, tall, thin, shoulder-length black hair with a bit of a curve.
She told me she was Greek and then later confessed that she is quiet about also being half Romanian since she says some of the men avoid Romanians. She nagged me a bit to go with her and almost lost me, but then I took a chance and got lucky. She was probably my favorite.
Julia, 10, Romanian, 23, short, sleek, athletic figure, shoulder length hair that she wore in a pigtail both nights.
Maybe the best looking girl in the club on the 2 nights I was there. Great GFE, though I was by now having trouble finishing and she said something about it but only after I mentioned it first and it really had been a long time. At first I said to my self that this was the closest thing to any sign I saw in 2 nights that any girl I was with wasn’t my girlfriend, but then I realized that a real girlfriend would have said something much sooner and not waited for me to speak up (and if she even gave me a bj at all she wouldn’t have done it in a room full of strangers).
Anda, 7-8, Romanian, long black hair with bangs, soft full figure but not at all overweight.
Great GFE. I had trouble finishing but she wouldn’t let me leave until I did. I finally agreed to a CIM if she could make me do it and she did. I kind of regret it though, since I only had about 2 drops and this cost me 50 extra. I was also a little unhappy the next day when she nagged me to do another session with her, demanding promises, telling me that she doesn’t like me anymore because I won’t go with her, etc ...
Christina, 10, Poland, 22, short and thin with not quite shoulder length blonde hair curled inward.
She is a rival for best looking girl in the club. Great GFE and she sat and chatted with me afterwards openly about working in the club, boyfriends, etc...
Elly, 8, Bulgaria, 21, short waffled blonde hair.
Great long soft slow all mouth and tongue bj. Lots of kissing and lots of time. Great to be with. Later in the evening she came over and sat with me for 15-20 minutes just to talk.
Hanna, 8, Romania, 22?, great thin athletic figure, red hair tied back tightly.
The best thing about her was the huge smile she had the whole time I was on top of her like she couldn’t imagine anyplace she’d rather be.
Alina, 9, Hungary, 22. Tall model figure.
Took me a while to get to her because she did a hard sell on me that initially turned me off and because she wasn’t Romanian. Finally got to her in the waning minutes of the early morning. Glad I did. Great kissing.
I noticed Magda (bony curly blonde from Romania) who I avoided because of several warnings on this board about her. She came over and gave me a strong sales pitch which I found to be a little dry.
The food was good and plentiful. It changes during the evening, so if there is something you don’t like just wait (though there was only one solid main course of good meat; beef in juice). Can’t say how the food compares to Palace since at Palace they don’t put out enough and it is all gone in 5 seconds.
On the bad side I agree completely with people who complain about the girls who pester you from the minute you arrive. Is seems like every time I go it gets worse. You can’t sit alone. If you go into the kino you are immediately followed. If you get up and walk you are stopped by girls coming in the other direction. They ask you where you are going and say “why don’t you come with me?” When you say no they demand to know why not and where are you going instead. When you say maybe later they insist that you promise and later demand that you honor your promise. If you walk away from them they follow you. At one point I fell asleep and a girl came over and shook me awake to make a sales pitch. They sit on your lap and won’t get up. Even some of the best looking girls did this (and spoiled their chances with me). Sometimes when I saw a girl zeroing in on me I would put up my hand and say no, sorry. Then I would hear about how rude I was after which I would be subjected to a sales pitch anyway. After I had been in the club for about an hour and hadn’t done a session yet I started to feel like all the girls were angry at me, like I had violated some norm.
I could maybe have just made out with several girls for free until they went away, but besides being a little unethical and possibly encouraging more pestering later, I didn’t want the ones I was interested in to get mad at me, and I didn’t want to make out with the ones I wasn’t interested it. These sales pitches happened at Palace too, but it was worse here. The girls I did see told me that this was a bad week with few men, so this may have had something to do with it.
"I think the ultimate brush-off is to say: "I have no money left." Works (nearly) guaranteed..."
Yes, Novize, you are right. There is a German guy at Palace (you?), who when he returns knackered from the room, goes straight to the bar and announces in a very loud voice for all to hear "pleite!". It's a nice double-entendre understood by all the girls and always gets a few laughs.
For a while I tried the "I am going for blondes tonight" to the brunettes - and vice versa to the blondes. That's OK until she sends her blonde friend over with "I hear you're looking for a blonde".....
But I'd still like to see the reaction of an eighteen year old Romanian at FKKW to being quoted Toscana's First Law. :-)
Katarina: as I reported a week ago, I agree with everything you say. She's great. From just outside Moscow, she told me she was 23, so a bit younger than you give. Judging from her body, believable, I guess. Doesn't really matter with that performance.
Toscana,
it wasn´t me...
I like your idea, too. I can already virtually see the question marks in the girl´s eyes... ;)
Since Katharina´s behaviour is somewhat ladylike, I didn´t ask for her age. But as I remember it, she was already in her mid-twenties two years ago. I´ll try to find out.
Have fun,
Novize
Catalyst,
Great post! Your list of girls is great, and those of us who know the girl line-up at World will know many, if not all, of those you write about. This list reads like Book 2 of Homer's Iliad, the so-called 'Catalogue of Ships.'
Certainly sounds like you sessioned with some stars!
The pestering and constant attention from girls you write about (or complain about?) is something that will always be a constant part of the FKK environment. Unless you prefer the polar opposite: where the girls make absolutely no move in your direction. I don't. I like the approach method, which I try to manipulate to my advantage.
I am now used to being approached often at FKK clubs and I guess I decided to just swim with the current rather than against it. Instead of fighting it, just play with it and eventually it goes away or you discover another side to it. I've actually had lots and lots of fun acting out with the girls, even when I am not particularly ready or eager for a session with them or with anyone else at that moment.
Of course, it helps if you can speak some German. I just guessing but: maybe they pester English-speakers more because they figure you are just a transient or short-term visitor vs a Stammegast (Regular)?
Anyway I find if I just lighten up and laugh and smile alot the pestering stops. And by the way we should mention that the early AM vibe at World specialises in this type of girl attack on guys esp. in the Relax zone. And some of us actually like it! I for one have had some great free foreplay sessions on the couches of World on certain early AMs. It can be very erotic experience....If you seek that sort of thing...
But it is a bit off if they actually wake you up when you are sleeping. Maybe this club ought to provide red Do Not Disturb signs like at hotels?
Ortos
Day Three: FKKWorld—Oh so Delightful, Delicious, and De-lovely!
As far as World is concerned, I may as well be a newbie. I went to this club during its opening week and have visited Pohlheim only sporadically since then. There are several reasons for this, the main one being that the place is just not as convenient to get to as Palace, Oase or the late Atlantis. The place has great facilities and on my past visits I have encountered a number of nice ladies. Andrea (Cz) was always a favorite on mine. I even remember her before she was such a huge star. Christina is another of whom I have fond memories. Still, when you fellow board members write about the “Software” at this club, I am pretty lost with regard to who’s who. Truthfully, Pohlheim would not have registered on my radar screen this past weekend had it not been for the opportunity to meet a few well known forum members.
I arrived in the late afternoon after taking a few wrong turns. For some reason it always takes me a bit longer to find the Garbenteich area of Pohlheim. Not so sure why this is, but the area confuses me when driving. After showering and putting on my towel I took a stroll through the place to reacquaint myself with the surroundings. The facilities are very impressive and it is clear that the management puts a lot of effort into keeping the place nice. The folks at Oase could learn a thing or two from this. It was a nice day to relax in the outdoor area. Not too cold, but just comfortable enough. It should soon be time for them to fill up their outdoor pool. For a Sunday there seemed to be quite a number of fine ladies present. No small number of male guests was also present. Very soon I made contact with a number of fellow board members, including the Mack-Daddy of all Frankfurt FKK mongers, Novize. (It is good to finally be able to put a name together with a face.)
Not being so familiar with the collection of ladies present, I pestered these guys ceaselessly about this girl or that one. Of course Ramona’s presence was made known to me, along with the advice that if I wanted to sample this Rumanian delight then I had better hurry before she leaves for her vacation. The guys pointed out the lovely Katharina who had caught my attention shortly after my arrival and immediately qualified for the Dedalus’ “To-Do” list. Andrea strutted her stuff in front of me and the boys and told me that she had not seen me for some time. Christina was there and looking much better than I had remembered. At one point a bubbly lady practically danced to the end of the bar to get a drink. “Wow!” I asked Novice, “Who’s that!” It was explained to me that this was Daniela from Rumanian and that she is a wild one. I was also told that “You don’t fuck Daniela, she fucks you.” I resolved to find out if this was indeed the case before the night was through.
While leaning against the couch next to the Kino area and exchanging FKK war-stories with the boys, I caught the eye of a really cute girl who boldly sauntered over to me and introduced herself. “So what is going on over here?” she asked sexily. I tried to switch over to German but GEORGIA she said that she felt more comfortable with English. After conversing with her I could understand why, for her English is not only fluent but she also uses idioms, and cleverly I might add. “I’m Georgia, like Georgia Peach.” Not bad. I was impressed for that would be the last word-association that I would expect any of these Rumanian girls to make. She is quite sexy in a sarcastic and sassy kind of way. Really loves to deliver a good wisecrack. Although I was sort of on the lookout for Hurricane Daniela, I was thoroughly taken by Georgia’s charms, her earthiness and her brashness and could not wait to head away with her when she suggested it.
In the room she was pretty much GFE standard yet she was a tad distant; not in a negative way, in fact it was a real turn on. She is a good kisser and a skilled oral sex practitioner. Our session reminded me of the sessions that I use to have with Melanie. She also had an objective yet highly skilled way of going about her business. I a not sure that I would put Georgia in Melanie’s class in terms of skill and technique, but hers is a delightful session that I would certainly repeat.
name: Georgia
hair: Brown (even somewhat reddish), wavy, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,6 m
figure: slender, A/B Breasts, nice legs.
origin: Rumanian
born: ~ 1982?
tattoos/piercing: None noticed
service: bbbj, DFK, good service
other: Good English skills, very tanned skin
location: FKK World.
If this was to be a harbinger of things to come with the Rumanian faction at World, then it had me wondering why so many people have been complaining about the dangerous vampire-brigands that I have heard so much talk about. Ramona certainly looked like a treat. I was drooling to get a hold of Daniela, another Rumanian. Are these really the Transylvanian-terrors that I have been reading and hearing so much about?
Another pause and another round of information exchange with the WSG/Ignatz/Romer guys. Our friend Novize is quite the flirt and it was amusing to see him work the room with his rücksack full of Süssigkeiten. (I wish that I had thought of that one.) It was also interesting to compare notes and opinions on some of the top-acts in the different clubs. There were, of course a number of ladies about whom we could make a general positive consensus. However it was also surprising for me to hear lukewarm reactions about a few girls who I consider to be some of the finest in the field. It just reinforced what I already knew, which is that writing off a girl because of someone else’s opinion or experience may result in a missed opportunity. Different tastes, different needs, different “clicks”. You never really can be sure until you take the plunge.
I asked the more “World”ly members again about KATHARINA, as I saw her amble past us. She is stunningly pretty and I believe that they had her face in mind when they came up with the phrase “Bedroom-Eyes”. I was assured by those in the know that she was a treat so I followed her down stairs with some pretty nasty thoughts on my mind. When I found her downstairs she said that she had seen me leering at her all day and was wondering when I would have the “Mut” to introduce myself. I confessed that at times staggering beauty can turn me into a “Weicherei” which she seemed to find flattering. We found a room behind the massage table where we could get to know each other better. I have read that Katharina is a good GFE, but I seemed to catch her at a point when she wanted to rehearse for a porno audition. No kissing, but what a blow job!!! I am sure that we spent have of the time either in a 69 position or with her nursing my joint. We both literally worked up quite a sweat with much up-tempo thrusting in the missionary and doggie positions which was where we finished. Stroking her incredibly lovely legs and ass before coming was heaven! This lovely Russian Tsarina will also make my “to repeat” list.
name: Katharina
hair: Blond (possibly bleached) long, and straight
size: ~ 1,7 m
figure: slender, B/C Breasts, nice legs. Ever so slight puppy fat.
origin: Russian
born: ~ 1981?
tattoos/piercing: None noticed
service: bbbj Extraordinaire!
location: FKK World.
Most of the rest of the evening would be taken up with dinner (not at all bad, by the way), more camaraderie, and trying to catch the attentions of DANIELA. I made my desires known to her in the dining area but there were a number of lucky fools ahead of me. She runs back and forth between the rooms and the men’s lockers with such high frequency that one is reminded of watching Cindy (Palace) at work. On this night I was very determined to meet this girl. I am not sure what the rest of you chaps think about this girl’s looks, but when I saw here earlier in the day, I was bewitched to the point of being obsessed. I really dig her figure! It seems that her breasts are slightly enhanced and they suit her body type to a “T”. I think the curly brown hair with the blond touches is really attractive. An angelic face and a “911” body. Also just from the way she was carrying herself, I had a strong feeling that this girl knows sex. Around midnight or a bit later, I finally saw her at the bar replenishing her bodily fluids. Anyone who moves like she does has to use up truckloads of electrolytes. She smiled at me had held up a finger indicating to me that she needed a moment longer to quench her thirst. Eventually she came over and stood by me and apologized that it had taken so long to finally get to me. I told her that she looked a little tired. She dismissed my statement and said “You must not know me. I love sex and we are going to have a wonderful fuck!” Bushes are not the things that this beauty beats about.
She led me over to the couch diagonally opposite from the bar, where we talked for a while. She talked a little about her day and of a particularly bad experience that she had earlier. It could have been that she was trying to play me but I really did not care. After some tender stroking and caressing she unwrapped my towel and went to work on me right then and there. My first public blow-job at World! Daniela was doing such a masterful job that I forgot that there was anyone else in the area. This went on for several minutes till she asked if I wanted to fuck right there. It was deliciously tempting, but I opted to take her to a room. If her desire for sex is all an act, then it is a convincing one. I was still standing when she ripped away my towel and began again with her million dollar blow-job. She eventually let me sit on the bed and while she continued to suck me, she began to maneuver that delightful body of hers all over mine. Friends, this lady has a delicious body and more than a notion of how to use it!!! Also she is a talker. The girl loves to talk, fluctuating between dirty-**** talk and sweet girlfriend-like talk. Both were major turn-ons! We explored just about every position and culminated with a very wild yet intimate missionary. WOW! ENDGEIL!!!
Afterward we talked some more and I was VERY tempted to stay with her for another session, ala Fred. Had it not been for the long drive ahead of me, then this delightful lady would have been mine for the rest of the night. After contributing to her scholarship fund and letting her know that she had not seen the last of me, I went back to the bar where the other boys were waiting. ‘WOW!” was all that I could seem to muster when asked if she was everything I had hoped for. Simply “WOW!” I was at a loss, for this was the finest session that I had had in a long time. The perfect mix of GFE and PSE. It was just spectacular! The only disappointing thing was that she told me she would be working only two more weeks before she took her vacation, and getting back to World for me will be a difficult endeavor during this period. I am closely studying my calendar and trying to figure out a way to make it happen.
name: Daniela
hair: Brown with blond tints, curly, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,7 m
figure: slender, B/C Breasts (nicely enhanced), great figure!
origin: Rumanian
born: ~ 1981?
tattoos/piercing: None noticed
service: bbbj, DFK, PSE-GFE A bit wild:-)
other: WOW!
location: FKK World.
It was the end of the night, as well as the end of the “Big-Three” tour for me. It was a super weekend! Not only did I have some earth-shaking, wonderful sex with lots o’ fine ladies, but it was also a treat to hang out with all you good gents from the boards. (D. Fox, I think that I saw you on Sunday as well, but we missed a chance at a proper introduction. Another time perhaps.)
World completely surprised me by coming in first in this three-way contest, edging out Oase and, on this tour at least, leaving the Palace in the dust. I fully expected the opposite to be the case. I may have to consider occupying a new base-camp this summer.
Here’s wishing everyone delightful springtime FKK follies,
Dedalus
Hi
Just wanted to know if this club accepts credit cards or not.
Faisal
Hi,
Can anyone post as how FKK world can be reached by train from Frankfurt.
Regards,
Faisal
Faisel,
This information has already been posted, at least twice, I think. If you have a mouse, use it to scroll down to earlier posts. All you seek is here...you just have to look for it...
There is an ATM machine in the lobby of World. Generally, you should take cash to FKKs as it works much, much better --and you won't have to pay any surcharges for using credit.
Say I got a question:
Why is it that if Bulgarian gals represent a considerable percentage of the World lineup, there doesn't proportionally appear to be as many reports about them? You guys don't like them?
I put myself squarely in the middle of a gaggle of them on the 1st day of my recent trip and got a good rapport with a few of them. On 2 subsequent visits I was stuck in what can be best described as a "Bulgarian pleasure prison." I get pulled into one of the big couches where they congregate and I can basically fondle and make out with 2 or 3 at a time for hours on end without having to go to the room, which is a big plus! But then if I run off to the room with a non-Bulgarian and in particular... Romanians (oh man they HATE Romanians!) they start looking at me sideways for awhile until they forgive me. Made me feel a little guilty... but it was all in good fun. Mostly.
There's that 1 100% gypsy Bulgarian in the group tho. She was ghastly! Did a hip grind on me trying to get me to the room and I almost lost my lunch.
But back to the original question... I'm guessing perhaps that aside from Stella who seems to be a regular, most of them turn over pretty quickly?
Just to say that Cordelia and I will be at World from Thurs 28th to Sunday 1 May (I will only be there on some days for some of the time). If anybody wants to say hi (to either/both of us) then PM us.
Cordelia is finding the pleasures of FKK are all the forum cracks them up to be. Which gives me an excuse to idle away the hours...I feel sorry for Cordelia having to work so hard! It must be awful to have to go and have sex as often as you can get hold of a man. If there aren't enough men then the girls are happy to kiss frogs since they might turn into princes.....
On the subject raised recently, I personally always feel uncomfortable if I spend ages with a girl and do not go to a room. It feels like taking advantage of the girls. This does not seem right in an FKK where there is, when all is said and done, a fair bit of honesty about the business relationship and one does not normally have to worry too much about being cheated. But for this to work it has to be both ways. Spending ages with girls and not going to a room means the girls must learn to distrust men - unless of course the man says upfront that he is not going to a room in which case it is fine if the girl then chooses to spend time talking with him
Shiatsu
You guys are very helpful about the good and the bad, but how does a first timer know who is who? Do they wear names (unlikely I would have thought in the circumstances) or do they introduce themsxelves, or do you go by the descriptions posted here?
Pete
Peter Kin,
each girl has a visiting card, which she will formally hand to you at the bar, so that you can retire to a sofa, consult your notes and make a fully-informed choice. After you have come up with a short list of potential candidates, you can invite each girl to make a powerpoint presentation covering such imponderables as services on offer, prices, diary openings, even aspects she will have to take into account for her tax declarations and things like that. Then you can make an appointment with her secretary. This service is all included in the EUR 65 entrance fee.
No, OK, sorry, it doesn't quite work like that. Don't take this as a personal [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]-take. :-) Trying to guess who is who is part of the fun. Sometimes you can guess from the girl descriptions on the forum, sometimes they will wear a distinctive wrap, sometimes a tattoo will help, but unless you actually introduce yourself to a girl, you will not know for sure. Even then, some have the same name. And remember, there may be over 50 naked women in front of you. Mental anarchy and chaos inevitably sets in, and you haven't even reached the bar yet. But what a great dilemma :-)
Of course the fun really starts when you discover the girl you have spoken to is NOT the one you've been having wet dreams about for the past fortnight, but - if you remember correctly - is on a forum no-no list you have stored in your memory. Are you sure it is her? Shit, she looks so hot, surely it's a mistake. And how could someone with a smile and a voice like that be a cheat? What if you are making a major mistake and this girl is a top act you would never reasonably expect to see, let alone f***? You would never forgive yourself. Let's have another look, another think about this. But, no, you are firm. You will pass on her. Now what? How to extricate yourself from this situation? She is cuddled up to you. Your hand is already on her left breast. You can smell her perfume. How can you say no now? And do not believe that time is on your side. She now reckons quite reasonably that you are interested, has already had her tongue tickling your tonsils and will very soon be homing in on your dick with her delectable mouth (the sub-towel swoop). Now is the time for very urgent decisions, your hormones aren't helping your brain at all and your wallet is, believe me, in grave danger. Unsurprisingly, you - like me - will at this juncture make the odd bad decision (it is what in sport is called an unforced error) and end up being occasionally disappointed. But isn't life so good? :-) :-)
The really good thing is that at FKKW the chances of real disappointment are (compared with a RLD or escorts for example) rather small, and just surveying a sea of gorgeous naked fishes swimming the pond as you float through the red curtains is one of life's real buzzes. Just enter the pond. If you don't find her, she might find you (that's how I met Czech Andrea), but even if you get totally confused, someone good will find you. Guaranteed.
And if you really want to try complete pot luck, go to the Kino.......
Peter Kin
Toscana has summed it up perfectly. No matter how many times I have a description or recommendation I find that once I'm faced with 50 naked girls all powers of logic melt. The power of a man's brain is diverted into a hunting mentality - with the problem that the prey is so plentiful there is a paralysis from abundance. (And perhaps it's also the knowledge that the real prey is the hunter?)
In the end it all comes down to whether you and the girl click. And even that can vary - either you or the girl might be having an off day. And what do you do if a recommended girl turns out not to be your "type"?. So in the end I never search out a recommended girl to the exclusion of others. I'll just remember the current recommendations and only go with them if I come across them and we click.
If you are sure you want somebody particular but don't know them then you can ask the girls or reception about them. At World and Oase both have been unbelievably helpful in finding a girl for me.
One thing I always find worth doing is to watch to see which girls bring their customers out of the room looking happy. If the girl and customer look bored then probably they didn't have a good time - especially if the "half-hour" only lasted 15 minutes. Take your time, watch, and go with whoever seems to give good service (even this is only a rough guide - my favourite at World often gives short time to customers - possibly because they end the session once they have come)
There are several reasons to go to an FKK. One is to ogle at lovely ladies (Optikfick) , another is to have good sex. The two do not necessarily go together. If you read this forum carefully you will see that one girl with a superb body gets lousy reviews about her performance in the room - but she gets many new customers (including wsg members) because of her looks. It seems to me that you can get the Optikfick for free just by sitting in the room, so the real challenge is to work out who you would want to shared your body and possibly mind with for half-hour (or longer). This is where you take the chance to explore the other person on the couch for five or ten minutes - if they don't want to then the chances are they are not going to share themselves withyou in the room either. And by the way, the meter should not start ticking while you are in the couch unless you spend a long time there and you start some serious sexual activity (once she starts French on you that it about the time you should consider yourself committed)
Your problem is common to us all. I think that's why the posts so often talk about having favourites. It's easier to go with someone you really like than to search out a new untried possibility. Especially when the recommended new girl comes up to you and this wonderful being (says the previous posts) looks to you like a sack of potatoes
If I've made this sound too complicated then that's about right!!, Trust to intuition and feeling - and if it lets you down learn from it. That way you'll learn new life skills and become a better employess/boss in your real life (just don't say where you learnt your improved people skills!!) - really, there is no down side
Shiatsu
Cordelia says,
This is a matter of some interest and in fact Toscana is right - except that we don't have power point !! we do try very hard to attract your attention in what ever way we can and backstage we spend ages on presentation for just that reason. My make up takes longer than a power point presentation !! there is not much scope for being distinctive as we are all naked.
Some dos and don'ts- don't ask the girl who has approached you and is cuddling up to you "who are the top girls at this club?" (as some one did to me lately - mind you he did spend an hour with me after) or you will risk the obvious response.
Don't inform her that you only like black/blonde/hungarian girls, that her tits are too small/large, that she is too fat/thin and that she talks too much/too little etc. This is upsetting, and while you don't have much risk of rejection girls get rejected most of the time - doing it kindly is much appreciated.
A girls view of who are the "top girls" won't be the same as yours- many of the girls who are forum favourites don't really register at all with the other girls who have other views about who is the best worker.
Most girls will be happy to find a specific girl for you as they hope for a return of the favour.
The thing that really surprises me is that with some 70 girls there the forum only posts about the same few every time. Everyone seems to be worried about having a bad session, a man ( with the body of a greek god and no I am not going to say who!!) said quietly to me that after four days he thought he had had about fifty percent bad sessions, some with girls recommended by the forum so you never can tell.
I think the most important thing is to spend some time looking and if the girl seems to be genuinely friendly with the men then you should take the chance and not worry if she has been posted about. You may have a really brilliant session with some one no-one else has found and set your own fashion.
Cordelia,
I do think you’re right. You have to spend some time looking around and you will find some girls that are really friendly and in many occasions it will lead to a nice time and sessions.
It is true that in most cases the same girls are recommended and that there are still others who offer perfect sessions. But isn’t it normally that after a few visits everyone has its own favourites?
I also think if you treat them with respect you will get something nice in return. You have to think about the fact that many of them are doing this to try and get an easier live in most cases and that we are as strangers to them as they are to us. It’s not always easy for them too.
Just try to get the best time possible. It's a bit like heaven on earth.
Greetings,
Pilot
The best thing to do is look for a group of people who look like they are regulars and see if you can get in a conversation with them. They can give the best tips. Usually more catered to you, they will ask what you are looking for, what you like and maybe who to stay away from. In the german forums we refer to them as "scouts". They are worth more than gold!
From my experience its rather easy to meet a girl outside of the club for a date. Especially for a foreigner from another Western country(USA in particular), it signals to the girl that you have 1) Money and 2) Could therefore take care of her and get her out of the life. At one club even the bar staff became ultra friendly when they found out I was an American in Germany on business.
Hi CBGB,
It is hard to argue about one's experience, and I usually would not reply to one of your "out of the blue posts", but in this case I think you may be giving those who don't know better the wrong idea.
I really doubt your "experience" is typical, that it is "rather easy to meet a girl outside of the club for a date". American or not, you will have a real hard time getting a girl to agreeing meeting you outside the club. The girls are not running around with "pretty woman" complexes, and although many of them dream of meeting someone (and perhaps preferably with money), I doubt that their current place of employment is the venue they prefer such a meeting to take place.
If it is in fact really your experience that it is easy, please share the experience and provide us with some factual data on the issue.
Chivaz
Apologies to all that this topic should be in General Info.
CBGB - "Could therefore take care of her and get her out of the life". I am not sure that the women are waiting for a rich man to rescue them from their "life". Whilst i recognise that the topic is complicated, I think generally that girls at FKK World are not trapped or inadequate. For many it is a way of taking control of their lives (ok - sometimes it may not work out) For many girls the prospect of being tied to a rich man is a nightmare - at the FKK they are making lots of money and are not trapped for life to one man. Some girls do have relationships, and some others do hope for a family etc - but when they choose, and not by being whisked off by a client
Anyway - this is what the girls tellme . I spend most of my sessions listening to the girls and their views on their lives (no doubt edited and coloured but nonetheless, still showing something of themselves)
The girls do sometimes have problems but the answer to them is not salvation through a man. As Chivaz says - no Pretty Woman syndrome.
Shiatsu
Made my way to World on sunday, April 10th, again. Arriving at 19:30, I found both parking lots filled and recognized lots of male guests upon entering the hall. But it showed, that many guests went off within the next hour, so that I experienced another slow, relaxing sunday.
Most girls of the dayshift left early, so there was no chance to make a date with Katharina.
After some time of acclimatisation I placed myself on one of the couches and played "Romanian Roulette": The first session of the day should go to the first woman who approached me.
It didn´t take a long time, until Maria, a cute little life wire, sat on my lap and began to kiss me. We did some very nice non-verbal communication for the next ten minutes, before she led me to the cinema. She "undressed" me and started a very nice french lesson to which I gladly responded. I had the impression that Maria was a bit in a hurry and keen on some extra-money, so I had to break in on her and get Novize jr. mounted for intercourse. Having enjoyed her oral spoilings, it didn´t take long to finish.
My personal conclusion: DFK, BBBJ, DATY, everything was offered. But I missed the interpersonal "chemistry" that makes a good session a great one. I won´t repeat, allthough it wasn´t a bad experience.
Her stats:
name: Maria
hair: black, curly, long
size: ~ 1,50 m
figure: slender, B-Breasts
origin: ??? (din´t ask)
born: ~ 1981?
tattoos/piercing: tattoo on lower back
service: bbbj, DFK, DATY
other:
After the session I met a frined I was appinted with and we had diner toghether. The food was OK, as (nearly) always.
A little bit later I sat at the lower bar and recognized Geri from Bulgaria sitting there and cheating me. At first I got distracted by a friend who interviewed Daniela on on of the couches - she spoke into his Microphone. After some minutes they changed roles, which also was nice to look at. When they finally decided to change locations, they had finally brought me to an idea...
I concentrated on Geri again. Sho soon left her place and came over to me for some nice chat, before we left hte bar and went to a room - with a 10-minute-pause on a couch. I´m just too old to run all the way through the club without having a break... ;)
The session in the room was very relaxed (at least for me) and intimate. I was too tired for intercourse, so after some D AT her dilicious Y it was on her to prove her oral skills - she passed the challenge with flying colours! We smoked and talked for the rest of the time, before I thanked her for the great time in the way that is common in these clubs. This girl surely is worth another approach!
Her stats:
name: Geri
hair: brown, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slim, B-breasts
origin: Bulgarian
born: ~ 1984
tattoos/piercing: None
service: good GFE
other:
The session with Geri was very good, but it clearly showed that I was finished for this evening. So I tried too sleep in the Relaxzone for a little while and then went to the upper bar to drink some coffee until the club´s closing.
I had to reject Georgia, Hannah and a newly arrived hungarian/bralilian beauty with assisted D-breasts for this evening, but I´ll be back on sunday noon.
Have fun,
Novize
Peter Kin,
Great idea! Only problem is where would we pin the tag? Any suggestions?
Actually as my esteemed colleagues have previously written, this is believe us the least of your problems. Remember the feeling as a kid walking into a candy store - the sweaty palms, salivating mouth, bugged out eyes, the indecision, unwilling to choose until prodded, eyes darting from side to side- well then you're not a newbie...
Seriously, the wrappers may not be as colorful, but the smells, the buzz, the anticipation are just adult-magnified. If you know how to suck on a lollipop, you'll be fine. You'll find a favorite brand, taste, texture and go with it. We all have different taste buds - you'll find yours, and believe us that in doing so, you will have an other worldly experience.
Sometimes, I wish I was still a newbie (well not really, but writer's hyperbole here) just to experience that first time anticipation born of innocence and the leap into the unknown, that first time through the curtain, that first time seeing the room full of naked women knowing that you can have any one (or more) that you desire. Ah,,, enough to ... right here and now...
PK, NJOY!
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]From my experience its rather easy to meet a girl outside of the club for a date. Especially for a foreigner from another Western country(USA in particular), it signals to the girl that you have 1) Money and 2) Could therefore take care of her and get her out of the life. At one club even the bar staff became ultra friendly when they found out I was an American in Germany on business.[/QUOTE]
Shiatsu, Chivaz,
Ignore him and his inane unsolicited and unconnected comments and maybe he will go away and back under the rock that he crawled out from. The bar staff became ultra friendly when they heard he was an American on business in Germany... Give me a break. Especially for a foreigner its rather easy to meet a girl outside of the club for a date...really, it' s that easy? Has that been anyone else's experience here on this board? If so, where are the reports ( which would be hard to believe anyway)?
Iseeu,
It's not that uncommon. A few months ago I was in a club and a girl who I had a good session with asked me if I wanted to have lunch with her the next day. I had told her that I was in town for a couple of days.
I took her up on her offer and the next day I picked her up, only she was there with her friend from the club. She said they both wanted to get to know me better. They offered to treat me to lunch at a good restaurant. The place had a nice outdoor patio and was very pleasant. Before we were done a couple of additional girls from the club showed up and wanted to know why they weren't invited too. They all demanded that we go back to my hotel, which of course I agreed to. The time in the room was pretty wild, but then the phone rang. The reception informed me that there were more girls in the lobby who were demanding to come up to my room. They wanted to know why they didn't get to come too.
Of course I said to send them up and everyone got turns. Afterwards they asked for my address in America and said they wanted to visit me. I probably shouldn't have told them who I am. Now I am back home and they are calling constantly. A few of them have travelled here and are staying near me. Sure, when they show up I often buzz them in, and it can be good fun, but people in my building have started mentioning this too me. It's been pretty wild, but now how do I get rid of them?
Catalyst,
I really enjoyed your reports last year when you pretty much did the majority of the girls at World, and your reports have been pretty good in the past and you seem pretty genuine, but this story has me baffled.
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but dude, this sounds as true as Santa :-). There must be a missing link in your story. Are you really saying a few of the girls have flown across the Atlantic just to hang around you without any compensation? You must have some kind of charisma :-). Can you share with us the identities of the lucky girls?
About the problem with the girls visiting you, I have a solution. You can have my place and I'll move into yours.
Chivaz
Chivaz. I read Catalyst's post as a magnificent piece of irony on CBGBs post. Very amusing. But of course the dozen girls I've got in the garden shed are real - that's where all the girls went over Easter when there weren't many at FKKW. I'll bring them all back soon
hehehehe, of course. Now that I read it again, I get it. I can be little slow sometimes ;-)
Chivaz
Chivaz, Catalyst, Shiatsu, et al,
Actually, out in my backyard here in sunny Florida, I've built the ultimate golden years resort for ex-FKK ers, with ocean breezes, and sunshine year round. In fact, I've recreated the OASE backyard with huts, covered chairs, jacuzzi and a BBQ pit and it's available 12 months a year. I haven't found a caterer yet who can match the World buffet, but they're trying to get it right. I've even found a supplier for just too short towels and showers that turn off after 15 seconds. (Anyone know an American producer of green apple smelling shower dispenser soap?)And the Romanian consulate has set up shop in the lobby, processing green cards and other official looking documentation.
So if you're looking for any ex startlets, they're in my backyard, spending their golden years catching the rays, and servicing the management. Heh, heh. Just one thing - they're sagging all over the place. Is it the silicon popping or just what happens to taut once very active bodies. What should I do?
Nothing but the truth - right?
LOL
The fact is that Cindy(Poland, Palace) Marina( Lithau), Daniela (World) Lizzie (Oase), Nadine (Letttland) and Melanie( Retired, now head of "Starlight Ladies") often make stops at my home in S. Germany for an All-Night, South German, European regional, Eat and Screw off. I don't know what it is but I can' keep them away.
Eat your hearts out guys,
Dedalus
now fellas, golly whiz - you're making sport of a distinguished fellow board contributor who has posted a bunch (and i mean a whole bunch) of really dead-on relevant and insightful and, well, what you could call visionary posts on this board. i can't imagine why you're all being so putty-downy or snooty or back-bitey or whatever it is you're trying to do here to the poor man.
give him a break. he's already been knocked around a lot. he can't help it that board management deleted a whole bunch of his cbgb posts over the years just because there was some little dollop of innocent negative criticism in them about other board members or about regions or cities in the world or about vast segments of society in general. i don't know about you, but i'm thinking those many, many deletions were an infringement of freedom of speech, which as we all know is a real big deal here in america.
and who's to say that cbgb isn't welcomed warmly wherever he goes? i too am unbelievably important because i'm an american, and like cbgb whenever i visit one of the lesser countries i am treated like the 'something special' that i obviously am. i go dancing down the funny little crooked streets of europe like gene kelly in the movie 'an american in paris', and people stop and stare and point their fingers and say "look there, that must be an american" in whatever odd non-english language they happen to talk in. they want to follow me and praise me and give me little trinkets to show their affection, and all the women want to abandon their evil, sinful ways and have me sweep them off their feet and take them back to america with me. of course they also know that i'm so loaded down with money that it's falling out of my wazoo, and that probably helps to influence their attitudes. i'm sure it must be the same with cbgb. no wonder then that mere bar attendants would hold him in such high regard.
and by visionary i mean that i have learned by reading his posts. i had no earthly idea that virtually every female here in america was an out-and-out ***** with a bad attitude and a bad upbringing and a bad worldview and probably bad breath to boot. i have been enlightened by his posts. i now know to avoid them.
so lighten up. cbgb is a fellow monger. he represents us wherever he goes.
CBGBConnisur yesterday:
"Occasionally I run into some fuckwit lady that thinks because I'm American I will take her back to the USA to my penthouse home."
Now there's a nice way to refer to a gullible, pliable young European beauty you found it so easy to lure into a freebie............ ;-)
Sunday morning, 8:00 a.m.: 50 girls from World are standing in front of my apartement, with nothing more than towels around their hips, swaying 50-€-notes in the air, shouting "Novize, Novize", Chocolate, Chocolate", "Take us all!"
Sunday morning, 8:05 a.m: I wake up...
Sunday noon: The girls still haven´t arrived. Something must have happened to them on their way. I decide to jump into my car and meet them halfway.
Sunday, 1:30 p.m.: I arrive at World. The situation is clear: The girls only had a yellow-black Smart Roadster at their disposal and couldn´t agree on who were the two lucky girls having the delight of visiting me at home. Poor girls! I´ll have to step in to calm them down...
Upon entering, the receptionist jumps out of her seat, openig the door for me - the red carpet had already been rolled out. Of course she would have let me in for free, but I decided to give a small donation (65,- €) to the club. Upon enterning the upper hall the girls kneel down to hail me and to apologize for causing me having to drive so far.
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And now to something completely different...
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Arriving without any chocolate in my bags, I wondered if the girls would
a) ignore me
b) curse at me
c) crucify me on the Tabledance-stage or
d) be as nice as ever.
Luckily for me, no girl chose options b) or c) and most of them chose option d) - my day was saved.
After some chatting at the bar I looked out for my first victim - guess who? Yep, Katharina the Great. Although she is one of the chocolate.addicted girls, she opted for alternative d), which I thankfully owe to the charming skills of my wallet. The best session for this day. Katharina plans to stay at World until Pentecost and will hopefully return in September, after the school holidays.
Her stats:
name: Katharina
origin: Russia
born: ~ 1978 (?)
hair: blond, straight, long
figure: slender, C-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for great GFE
I hadn´t fully relaxed when Geri from Bulgaria approached me for some companionship at the upper bar. Thanks to the low traffic she didn´t rush for a room and we smoked, had a drink and cheated each other before we finally left for the lower floor. The session was very good,I enjoyed teh relaxed intimacy with lots of kissing and cuddling. As I understood, she will leave World for some days mid of this week, but will come back before she takes a longer vacation in July.
Her stats:
name: Geri
hair: brown, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slim, B-breasts
origin: Bulgarian
born: ~ 1984
tattoos/piercing: None
service: good GFE
other:
I headed for the sauna with some friends after that, getting completely dried out. I had to drink half a dozen glasses of Apfelschorle after that.
But the sauna alone didn´t hurt enough, so I had to approach Tamara from Romania. To be not unjust, I have to explain the circumstances of this session:
First, I had done this hardcore-saunaing. After that - while refilling myself with Apfelschorle - I had tried to help a girl to overcome her depressive mood - without success. And then I approached Tamara, who hadn´t had a single customer that evening so far - it was 11 p.m. - and was quiet frustrated because of that, for a chat. And I was tired.
Of course she asked me to have sex with her. I denied, and she accepted. She really didn´t insist on a session. She just remarked, that some day she would get me to do a session with her. And then I thought: if I have to do it some day I can do it now.
After reading that you know that she didn´t heve even the slightest chance to onvince me in the room. I can´t blame her for trying to earn money. So my judgement is: Sometimes I can be a bloody idiot!
Although it wasn´t a great session for me, I would encourage those who like "sportive sex" to give Tamara a try. I spoiled it. What a shame. Tamara is such a nice girl...
Her stats:
name: Tamara
origin: Romania
born: ~ 1982
hair: brown, straight, long
figure: slender, B/C-breast
height: ~ 155 cm
tattoos/piercings: tattoo on lower back
other:
I went downstairs for some sleep. Ruth at the lower bar took care of me, so noone disturbed me this night.
After waking up, Hanna came along and placed herself on my lap. We cuddled each other on the couch before we went upstairs - I needed some coffee. After that I had a very enjoyable session with Hanna - lots of tenderness and fun. I got the impression that she needs some time to get accustomed to a client, since I don´t remember my first session with her some weeks ago not that good. But this night she was great!
name: Hanna
origin: Hungary
born: ~ 1983
hair: reddish, straight, shoulder-length
figure: slim, A/B-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: recommended for GFE
It was 2:45 a.m., and I was finished. I ordered a last Cappuccino and watched Magda and Hanna dancing aroung. It remembered my daughter acting like this in the kindergarden, but it was nice to watch.
From World I drove to my office - I had to file a report.
Next sunday will see me at World or Palace - depending on the weather.
Have fun,
Novize
"A girls view of who are the "top girls" won't be the same as yours- many of the girls who are forum favourites don't really register at all with the other girls who have other views about who is the best worker."
Cordelia,
could I just take you back a handful of posts (before we were lured into discussing all our phenomenal "extramural" successes with those selfless beauties at FKKW)?
What, in your experience, qualifies a girl for being a Top Act in the eyes of the other girls? (I assume you do not have in mind the ability to count up to fifty, or eyesight that can tell a green one from an orange or blue or red one). Is it the "catch" quota? Years of service? I mean they can hardly form a judgment on performance in the room, can they? Probably don't want to either.
I am sure the answer will not help us one bit in our search for the ultimate FKK goddess, but it would interest.
If you think these girls would prefer to fuck strangers for money rather than do something else you are mistaken. Most of these women are from impoverished Eastern European countries and are destitute. Some come from marginalized ethnic minorities within Germany like the Turks. If they could find a guy who could pay their bills, put a roof over their head, and put food on their table, and treat them good(unlike their pimps or "freunds"), they will go to such a guy like bees to honey.
With 2 million Turks living in Germany (Dec. 2000) I wouldn´t call them a "marginalized ethnic minority".
I agree to your opinion that most of the girls would prefer to do something different than they do now.
I doubt that the girls see a club as a marriage bureau. And if you´d meet one who really thinks so, you´d be an asshole to take advantage of this. If she really has a "boyfriend" or pimp, it might become painful for you and her.
And, btw, this is a forum about P4P available for everyone, "private" things should stay private. It´s wasting webspace and bandwidth without any practical use for the readers - but that doesn´t seem to be any problem for you...
Just my 2 Cents´,
Novize
It's a well known fact that Turks are marginalized minority group in Germany not because of their numbers but because of their limited assimiliation into mainstream German society. Many have lived and worked there for decades(have also paid taxes) and cannot get German citizenship. Germany is a society that is divided between Germans and the Auslander, foreigners can live in Germany but are never included into their host society as what happens to immigrants in the USA, Australia, and Canada.
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]Many have lived and worked there for decades(have also paid taxes) and cannot get German citizenship.[/QUOTE]
Any foreigner can become a German citizen under the following premises:
- 8 years legal residence in Germany
- holding a work- or residence permit
- commitment to the german constitution
- no anticonstitutional activities
- no subject to the german social security system
- german skills
Not one hurdle too high, I think.
Since Jan., 1st, 2000, every person born in Germany automatically is a german citizen, if at least one of his parents has been living in Germany for 8 years and has been possessing a permanent residence permit for at least 3 years.
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]Germany is a society that is divided between Germans and the Auslander, foreigners can live in Germany but are never included into their host society as what happens to immigrants in the USA, Australia, and Canada.[/QUOTE]
Take a look at any Chinatown in the US and then read your sentence above again.
This was my last answer to a Readers-Digest-subscriber, not only because the issue is Off-Topic...
Have fun,
Novize
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]It's a well known fact that Turks are marginalized minority group in Germany not because of their numbers but because of their limited assimiliation into mainstream German society. Many have lived and worked there for decades(have also paid taxes) and cannot get German citizenship. Germany is a society that is divided between Germans and the Auslander, foreigners can live in Germany but are never included into their host society as what happens to immigrants in the USA, Australia, and Canada.[/QUOTE]
Ok, enough is enough. As a foreigner living in Germany and paying Taxes, I must announce that I do NOT feel marginalized and I could easily get citizenship here if I choose to. CBGB, this is a topic, like several others, where you are just blowin' in the wind. I know too many people who are Auslaender in Germany and while they may not be German, they feel as much a part of the society here as your typical Hans and Giesela.
You really do know very little regarding this topic, so why not be quiet.
Dedalus
Why on earth does anybody dignify this guy's irrelevant uninformed disconnected posts with any response at all? Give us all a break and just ignore this static... Let's get back to real informative posts, no?
If my posts received the universal negative response that CBGB's posts get I think I would start to question whether the fact that I am so out of line with other people said something about me. I would wonder whether or not my social skills needed some development.
As it is I simply make a public request to CBGB - please stop posting offensive and ill-informed posts on things which have nothing to do with this thread
Shiatsu
Toscana
From Cordelia. Before CBGB's posts diverted the forum you asked a question of me. I hope it is not off-topic. You asked what makes a top act in the view of the girls working at FKKW as opposed to the men's view
Obviously it is not the ability to share good sex!! The girls admire another girl who looks good and has a pleasant attitude to the other girls. They also admire a girl who has a good pick-up technique and who does not interrupt girls when they are working. They also like a girl who is unselfish when working in a twosome. Basically this all means a girl who works hard to get money for herself but also works as part of the World team. (I did actually ask the girls about it). This all helps make the atmosphere for girls working at FKK World generally very good and is one reason why I so often compliment the club
So this is why it is no good asking the girls who is best. Their criteria and experience is different. Quite a few of the girls don't even recognise the names of some of the "top acts" listed on the forum. So it's back to asking by name for a worker and watching who seems to give themen a good time - and of course reading the forum reports (although these are limited since they tend to focus on a very limited number of girls at a time and fashion changes - one girl may go in and out of fashion for no obvious reason).
You go, boy!
:D
I know enough girls who have tried other work and do end up back in the clubs, because it provides more money quickly for less work than most can make in a legitimate job. Once you have overcome the hurdle and done it once, it is tough to get out for good.
I only know of two girls that I know well who have been out of the business for more than 2 years without going back. It is sort of like smoking.
I also know enough girls who have met their real boyfriends in clubs. And I am not talking about pimps.
I was talking to a girl I know really well the other day in GT. She said her new BF she met in the club. I said that was a bad idea. She told me that she spends all her time in the club, where else can she meet anyone.
She was also 3 weeks pregnant from him, and it would be her second abortion. Not really the sort of talk that made me want to fuck her. We spent 3 hours talking in the room, and she wanted no money from me. I gave her 100€ for her time.
Some girls have fucked up stories (there was a hell of a lot more, including unprotected sex with the owner of another club the night before and such) but many choose to be in this job.
She sort of wants to have the kid (she said to me before she snorted a line of coke), but she knows she wants to do the job for 2 more years, so it won't work out. She misses the kid she aborted too.
Wonderful girl, fucked up life, but it is mostly due to choices she has made.
Don't tell me the stories are lies, I know too much about this girl that I know what she tells me is true.
I'm a retired alcoholic and have nothing better to do with my time and money except spend it on prostitutes and babbling on and on :).
I wonder why do Lamborghinis cost 250K in some places and in others they cost only 50EU??? Beautiful naked woman = Lamborghini. Maybe its because the vehicle has a "maintenance" history.
Peter said: "Once you have overcome the hurdle and done it once, it is tough to get out for good." That is certainly true for the girls. But it is also true for us, isn't it. Can anyone of the regulars even still imagine what your life was like before you visited the clubs. This is an extremely addicting lifestyle. In my pre-FKK times, I used to take girls to fancy dinners, to concerts, to the disco, whatever, and spent sometimes several hundred euros (well, it was marks then) on this per night ... often without scoring at the end of the evening. That kind of chase can be fun, but once you have experienced the FKK clubs, you are more and more inclined to take the shortcut (if you know what I mean).
As far, as meeting your boyfrind (or girlfriend) at the club is concerned: what the hell - many of the girls have a very pleasant personality and are fun to spend time with. Just because a lot of guys get to stick their dicks into this girl's various body openings, this does not mean that you could not be romantically involved. Why be judgemental when we stick our schlongs into just as many other girls (or at least would do it, if we had enough money and/or stamina)?
I have met at least ten girls in clubs, where we hit it off, and where I would not have minded a more permanent relationship. In the end, I only did not pursue this for one reason: it might lead to marriage, and those tend to cost me a lot of money in the end ;-{
cheers
euro
I remember a guy who used to run tours of FKK clubs, and the subject of meeting girls outside of clubs came up, several guys reported meeting women outside of the clubs for p4p, for dating, etc. One even mentioned a story about a girl who was about to get kicked out of the country and this girl wanted him to marry her. I did meet a Bulgarian woman in an NRW club that wanted to meet me outside of a club, but I was glad I didn't do it, she had a boyfriend and was looking for a Western guy to get her out of Europe, I think she was pulling some kind of scam with her boyfriend. I got involved with one girl, she had to return to Germany to wait for her temporary visa to live with me, we both waited, then I came back and found out she was killed in a car wreck on the autobahn. A complete heartbreaker that something like this could happen to such a nice girl meanwhile fat American women(more like overweight cows with oversized egos) drive their SUVs all over the damn place while they boyfriends and husbands work themselves to death to pay for them. There is no fairness in this world.
CBGB,
For the first time in a long time I am responding to a serious post of yours.
I am sorry for your loss. I rmember the story about that girl coming to live with you. Never knew she died. Sorry.
Generally I would advise most people to be really careful about ever meeting a girl outside of clubs, or believing almost anything they tell you. Especially if there is any angle you can put on it that would lead to you giving her more money.
I know some girls well, but that has taken a number of years, and I have a special talent that people from all walks of life confide way too muchs tuff with me. I am like a humn confessional.
Be careful witht he girls, treat them well, but realize they all have interesting paths which have put them where they are.
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]It's a well known fact that Turks are marginalized minority group in Germany not because of their numbers but because of their limited assimiliation into mainstream German society. Many have lived and worked there for decades(have also paid taxes) and cannot get German citizenship. Germany is a society that is divided between Germans and the Auslander, foreigners can live in Germany but are never included into their host society as what happens to immigrants in the USA, Australia, and Canada.[/QUOTE]
Germany has never been a country of immigration as the US, Canada and Australia are !
If a Turk applies for German citizenship, he or she will get it sooner or later, provided he/she has spent eight years legally in Germany (five if he/she is married to a German), speaks the language and does not have a serious problem with Germany's constitution. That is a totally fair and acceptable handling of the German legislation.
BUT, we should not forget that the majority of Turks in Germany does not even apply for a German passport, due to reasons whatever..... It is not the Germans who exclude the Turks, it is usually the Turks who exclude themselves.
Let us not forget: I have not seen a Portugese, Italian, Yugoslavian or whatever "ghetto" in any major city in Germany, but I know of Köln-Chorweiler, Berlin-Kreuzberg, etc..... The Turks are just some of many nationalities who were invited to work in Germany after the war, but the only one who refused intermingeling with Germans.
Anyhow when I first visited Germany, the sight of obvious foreigners was very interesting(I'm used to thinking of only North America as being multicultural but surprised that Europe is catching on in a slightly different way) and meeting foreign girls in the FKK clubs was an unforgettable experience. The girl I hooked up with was half Turkish(father) and half German(mother), a very exotic combination, unfortunately she is no longer on Earth. I would have only met such a girl, in an FKK club, she was my first FKK girl and I remember her with photographic clarity, she was such an experience so special that I don't like to share the information about my FKK experiences with my friends. Still, in many of the Ruhr clubs, many girls seem very, very friendly. Women in Germany seem to be a lot friendlier than those in the US, they don't seem to be so afraid of strangers and are not afraid of making eye contact. I met women in places where I wouldn't in the US.
Here's a good reason why visiting a prostitute in the US is a waste of your time and money:
New York Daily News - [url]http://www.nydailynews.com[/url]
City hooker ring KOd
BY ROBERT GEARTY and GREG B. SMITH
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Tuesday, April 12th, 2005
A multimillion-dollar Manhattan-based prostitution ring used the Internet to snag customers and arrange "dates" with hundreds of supposed supermodels in 22 states, prosecutors charged yesterday.
NY ****** promised "stunning European knockouts" with names such as Vanessa, Roxy and Katrina - charging $500 to $1,500 per hour for sex in hotels from coast to coast, authorities say.
The federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency raided ******' E. 32nd St. headquarters and discovered records listing the names of more than 200 hookers, according to court papers.
At 6 a.m. yesterday, agents busted alleged ringleader Rady Abdel Salem Abbassy. But they missed his girlfriend and alleged partner, Elena Trochtchenkova, who remains a fugitive, prosecutors said.
The ring operated out of an eighth-floor suite off Fifth Ave. where "dispatchers" took calls from johns drawn via a Web site.
The site depicted numerous women who supposedly "appeared on the covers of many mainstream European magazines," providing a résumé with every physical detail.
Yesterday it featured 5-foot-6, 116-pound Vanessa with the come-on: "Call and Reserve Vanessa today!" She was allegedly "available in New York City" from last week until Sunday.
"If you are in need of beautiful companionship and sharp intellect, check out the most sought after escorts in the New York area," the Web site promised.
Three of the pricey call girls turned informants and told of being sent on two-week "tours" to other cities, according to affidavits by Immigration and Customs agent Theodore Psahos.
The escort service used Hotwire, an Internet travel agency, to book hotel rooms for customers. Records show the service booked rooms in 22 cities, including New York, Boston, Chicago and San Francisco. Hotwire officials, who are not accused of any wrongdoing, cooperated with the probe.
Immigration agents discovered $5.5 million in deposits into accounts linked to NY ******, mostly from credit card payments, prosecutors alleged.
But investigators believe the ring netted much more money, noting that most customers paid with cash.
The ring was quite sophisticated, requiring all first-time users to provide detailed personal information to filter out potential law enforcement agents.
Only after callers were cleared could they request specific women and particular sex acts, prosecutors alleged. "Incomplete forms will not be accepted," the site warned.
Call girls would collect payments upfront, and deliver cash or credit card receipts to the dispatchers, prosecutors said.
Yesterday, a spokesman for Immigration and Customs confirmed the arrests and said the agency would release more information today.
In Manhattan Federal Court, accused ringleader Abbassy was detained when prosecutor Benjamin Gruenstein alleged he was in the U.S. illegally after being deported to Egypt for a 1985 marijuana conviction.
Two women, Valerie Hairston and Nancy Khaja, alleged to be dispatchers, were released on $100,000 bond.
Do you ever hear about shit like this in Germany? Atlantis got busted mainly because the owner was evading taxes. Or occasionally a club gets in trouble because it hired illegal workers. Note the prices charged for "European girls" from $500 to $1500US(for the same amount of money I can fuck between 6 to 25 top class women in Germany!!! The quality sex will more than make up for the travel costs). A customer in an FKK club asked about services in the US and I told him not to bother but didn't elaborate because I didn't want the girls to hear and give them ideas.
Any of you guys any idea how much a taxi would be from FKK Palace to FKK world?, or more specifically from hotel Ibis frankfurt west which is just around the corner from the palace?
Also are there any cheaper cabs in Frankfurt that dont have meters for instance and you just pay a negotiated fee? you know similar to mini cabs in London??
i could rent a car, but would prefer not the hassle of it.
Fred,
A taxi from Hausen to World will set you back several Euros. I am unaware of any cheap taxi services but if you really do not want to drive then you best bet is to take the train to Giessen and from there take a taxi to World (Approx. 17 Euros)
Just guessing here, but I bet a taxi from the Ibis to World would be from 100 to 150 Euro since it is about and hour long drive.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Fred - Just to confirm Dedalus. It's too far for a taxi. Sometimes at night I've negotiated prices with taxis instead of the kilometre charge for the trip to (erstwhile)Atlantis from FFM - but it isn't really any cheaper. Anyway getting to World is easy by train - at peak times of day it is quicker than driving. My post number 535 gives a bit more guidance about public transport. The best option might be as Dedalus says by train to Giessen and then taxi - the whole trip will be under an hour ffrom the train departure from FFM Hauptbahnhof (the staff at the Reisezentrum speak good English and will help)
By the way - I'll be at World and Oase over April 28 to May 1. (Cordelia will be there all the time) If you are going then PM me?
Guys,
thanks for your fast responses, I probably will take the train and then taxi.
Any idea what time of the night the train back to Frankfurt stops running at ?
My next trip will be end of May/ start of June and I will visit both World and Palace.
cheers
Fred
Fred - Last direct trains on a Friday are currently at 22.53 and 23.53 followed by a train at 04.40 on Saturday morning, If you use the bahn.de website you'll get all details
I'll be around FKKW at the end of May
I arrived at World at 3:30pm and there were 25+ ladies and the same number of men. They were having an Italian party today. I was waiting to see Christina, from Bulgaria, whom I had seen back in February. She is very pretty blond with captivating eyes. Christina had told me she will return to Germany early April after her vacation in late February.
Christina arrived after 5pm, recognized me, and came over. After making out in the dining room and talk for awhile, she told me she'll go change, wash up and will return. She met me at the bar and we make out there again before heading to the room. My hour session with her was as good as I had remembered.
After some good food, I had session with Alina. She is a petite and attractive Hungarian. The service was GFE but she seemed a little distant.
I decided to have another session with Christina a few hours later. An hour with her seemed so short.
It was getting close to midnight. I decided to see one more girl before heading back to the hotel. The last girl was Alexandra. Skinny dark hair from Greece/Romania. She tried to sell me fran-total during the bj and during sex she kept one hand on my penis. She told me that I was big and would hurt her. I thought it was her way to get me off faster, but when she was on top of me she did not do it. She placed her legs on top of mine to prevent from going deep. The session was ok since there was only light kissing.
I called it quit and left at 1am.
I saw Olga, a tall and attractive red hair Russian, and Jennifer, an attractive blond from Czech. Did not repeat with them since the service was not that good the last time. I also saw Cindy, she now have black hair instead of blond.
Part One—Thursday the 14th
My last visit to World stayed in my head long after it ended. It was a combination of things: Friendly meets with other board members, Wonderful facilities, Friendly staff, a whole stack full o’ seriously fine ladies, etc. Also my time with the Rumanian Tornado Daniela did not wash off so easily. Her sex appeal and sexual prowess kept me wondering how soon it would be before I could get back to Pohlheim. Plus she told me that she would be taking an extended break soon. Might as well see this little lady off properly.
On Thursday the 14th I found myself having a day free of work or responsibilities and although I was a good distance from Pohlheim, I decided to make the trek. I called the lady at the information desk to see if Daniela was in fact there. She told me to try back at around 5:00PM. I did as instructed and was told that she had just arrived. Nuff’ said, I was off.
Arrived at World around 8:45. For a Thursday it looked not so crowded but there were a good number of ladies present. As luck would have it DANIELA was collecting her earnings from a satisfied customer as I was putting away my wallet. I signaled to her that I would be at the bar waiting. She blew me a kiss and went off to freshen up.
After downing some water and burning a fag I felt a tongue in my ear. What a nice greeting! I tried to make some small talk but she was clearly in the mood for action. She said that she was very horny that night and asked if I wanted to fuck in the kino. I was powerless to deny this lady anything, so after some serious tongue action and body groping at the bar, she led me around the corner to the cinema with some major sexual atrocities on both of our minds.
This was my first time in the World kino and I must admit that I was impressed. The sofas are superior to those of Oase and they are large enough to at least create the illusion of privacy. Daniela went to work right away giving me a million-dollar blowjob and eventually placing her stupendous legs on either side of my ears so that I could return the gesture. The girl can make some serious sex noises. She is also a talker. Sometimes loud and sometimes not but it is definitely a turn-on and, as I told her, inspiring! Gradually she maneuvered herself over me and started her wild, cowgirl, Annie Oakley routine, moaning and gasping the entire time. A few voyeuristic gents decided to look on and at time voice some encouragement. All in good fun I suppose. We finished off with a wild missionary that those large sofas are idea for. What a woman!
Afterwards she told me that she would be hanging around for a week longer than originally planned which made it clear where I would be spending an up coming weekend. I can’t say enough about this girl’s sexual appetite. There are a few girls that I have run into in the FKK business who give me the genuine impression that they really enjoy sex. Cindy(Palace), Marina (Palace), Angelique(Palace), Jill (FI), and a handful of others. Daniela belongs to that group and while there may be a few girls who deliver service on her level, I am not sure that I have had any that are better.
Later while relaxing at the bar and making goo-goo eyes at Daniela across the way, I felt a tongue start at the base of my spine and work its way up to my neck. Then a sexy voice whispered in my ear asking me how I was getting along. I recognized the voice that belonged to GEORGIA and told her that I was quite well and that my back was certainly cleaner that it was a second ago. I also quickly explained to her that her Rumanian cohort had just released me from prison and that I needed a little while to find my energy before undertaking any new carnal activities. She said that she understood and that it did not bother her to stand and talk with me in any case. What a sport! She knew that I would be in need of her services eventually. The girl has confidence. She was also right, for I figured that a session with her would be a good contrast to Daniela and I had every intention of doing a second round with her before night was through. Eventually I sought out Georgia and we made our way to a room downstairs. I really like this girl. She is a gem; Bright, intelligent, witty, sexy, and (according to her) modest. Also she has a great mouth and her BBBJ nearly drove me to the brink of insanity. She is not the wild sexual hurricane that Daniela is. A bit more GFE and her pacing is wonderful. She was more intimate than the last time we were together and she could easily become my Stammmädel at World. She is also really a looker! Gents if you have not tried her before, then you are really missing a treat.
Later that evening I found Daniela again at the bar. It was getting late and I had a long drive ahead of me, but she was why I made the trip in the first place. She saw the leer in my face and knew that I was ready for her again. She approached and just started kissing and stoking me right there at the bar. She had made it clear that she was not in a mood that evening to go to the rooms. “Kino (Kiss), couch (Kiss), stage (Kiss), sauna (Kiss), whirlpool (Kiss), bar (Kiss), toilet (Kiss), anywhere (Kiss), but the room is too boring tonight. (Major Kiss) I am just too horny!” That she was! I really thought that she was going to abuse me right there at the bar. Eventually she dragged me over to the stage, sat me on the floor and started to give me a BBBJ in front of everyone. I’ll admit that it was a turn-on even for a shy chap like me. Still, doing anything on that stage is impossible to be ignored by everyone, however it is interesting to see the other guests try. After a bit of 69ing I decided to take matters in hand and picked her up and took her to the kino. For the shape that I am in, I was thankful that it was nearby.
We basically had a repeat of our earlier session, which was fine by me. One of these days I may take Daniela up on her open sex on stage offer, but I am still yet a few rungs from that level of immodesty.
It was a great night and despite the long driving times I had to rack up, I thought that it was worth all the hassle. Also I knew that I would see Daniela again in ten days time as Chivaz and I had been planning an upcoming Saturday World-romp. More details on that trip soon to follow.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Part Two—Saturday the 24th
I had made plans with Chivaz a few weeks in advance of last Saturday’s trip to FKKW. After hearing me ramble on about the delights and dangers of Daniela, hearing that IMHO she beat out Lizzie in the Top-Act competition several weeks ago and hearing that she made me crazy enough to drive 4 hours each way just for a taste of this Rumanian delight must have had him salivating for a bite of this delicious morsel himself.
I was running a bit behind schedule but was able to make it to World by 6:15 PM. I knew that this would be my last chance to enjoy Daniela for a few months and I was wondering if I should be a jerk and just whisk her away for one of those mega-monster long, never-ending, and EXPENSIVE sessions or just engage her several times during the evening and work a few selected-shorts in between. The idea of a long Daniela session crossed my mind after having read a few reports on the Roemerforum by a number of other Daniela-fans who were looking to enjoy the tornado before it heads back east. It being a Saturday, I was worried that it might be difficult to catch her.
As luck would have it, just like my last visit, she was finishing up with some dude just as I was drying off and putting away my wallet. Eye-contact, the “I’ll be waiting at the bar” sign. Haven’t we seen this movie? I had to sit at the bar for about 20 minutes before she came by. I was thinking that Chivaz is expecting me and I should go find him and say hi, but I also figured that he would understand. I know that he eventually did!
DANIELA was as peppy as usual and also just as horny, however she seemed to be less into the public-exhibitionist mood then ten days earlier. After pawing each other for a few minutes at the bar, she took my hand and led me of to one of the rooms downstairs. “I want some privacy with you today.” Cool! During our walk down stairs I had another chance to admire this lovely woman. Among her many fine bodily characteristics is one of the sexiest bums I have ever seen on an FKK lady. She has great legs but this evening she was hiding half of them in white, knee-high, fuck-me boots. The tattoo on her backside is tasteful as are her breasts which are tastefully enhanced. Some fellow FKKers have told me that she looks a little like Julia Roberts which is a stretch but I will admit that I noticed some similarities the first time I saw her. Her eyes and mouth are smaller than Ms. Roberts’. Another perhaps better facial comparison might be Helen Bonham Carter but I am probably just free-associating. In any case, she is lovely. I am reminded of something an ol’ boy from back home use to say whenever a shapely adorable would saunter by. He would grab his heart, roll his eyes toward Heaven, sigh and then say “Damn, I’d crawl twenty miles through a bunch o fire-ants just to take a drink of her bathwater!” Try to imagine it said with a deep southern accent.
Daniela’s service was again stupendous! Perhaps a bit more GFE than usual but still filled with a healthy amount of wild bucking. Afterwards we chatted a bit which really was a first for us. Usually we only talk sex. She is a pretty sharp girl and has a lot of emotions which I am pretty sure are not an act. In a way I am glad that she will be gone for a few months, otherwise I would be broke come July.
After contributing to her vacation fund and telling her that she should look for me in about two hours I went to go find Chivaz who was lounging on the couches diagonally across from the bar. We exchanged pleasantries and rapped for a while. I excused myself for being late and explained that I had been shanghaied by Daniela and could not put up much of a fight. The man instructed me to point her out ASAP. When I saw her return from freshening up I went and asked her to meet a friend of mine which she did and the two of them made a nice love connection. I will leave it to Chivaz to describe his encounters with Daniela his ownself. However I will say the between 6:30 and about 10:30 Chivaz and I occupied her time exclusively save one interloper who captured her for thirty minutes. My second session with her was also a gem. She took me down to the relaxzone and preformed a first class blow-job before leading me outside to one of the huts. It was a tad cold but we managed to warm things up in a short time. I did a good job of trying many of the Kama Sutra positions and performed so many different acrobatics that we both got leg cramps. I have to get back in shape!
It was a great session but I think that from now on, instead of doing back to back sessions with her, I will try something different in between, just for the contrast.
Afterwards I dutifully returned her to Chivaz who seemed appreciative.
While Chivaz was enjoying Daniela art, I hung around both downstairs and upstairs bars to get a feel for who was present. I am starting to get a feel for these World ladies but there are still a number that I do not know by name. Earlier in the day I saw the lovely Russian Katharina, I am pretty sure that I spied this girl Jacqueline that many people speak so glowingly of (blond hair in a pony-tail, tattoo down the spine, looks to die for? Is this her?), Cindy (Glasses), Christina, Anka, Ambra, Stella (formerly Oase), Hannah, and a few others. At one point the Rumanian Anda came over and straddled my lap. I did some mild protesting as she was grabbing my crotch and insisting that we head to a room. I was really tempted for I find this girl really cute, but I decided to save her for another day. Cindy is also a fine looking one. We made some eye-contact in the dining area and she has made my “to-do” list. Both Alexandra and Anka were on the hunt and approach me several times during the evening. Both are cute and Anka is especially tempting, but I have read and heard so many negative things about her that I decided to give her a pass. At one point while at the bar the famous Andrea came by and started to work on the gent standing next to me. It has been a while since I have been with Andrea but I remember her being a true joy. Also she was defiantly looking tops on this evening! All of a sudden I knew who my next victim would be. Alas, she ran off with the gent next to me but I was not so disappointed in that I was still recovering from Daniela and 30 or minutes of relaxation would be a good prelude to a kiss.
Chivaz returned and we set up shop on the couches and discussed the evening. I told him that ANDREA was there and looking damn fine. Eventually I spotted her and pointed her out. When the time was right I decided to go grab this doll before someone else did. The keen-eyed Chivaz made me promise to send her his way when we were finished. I approached her and she led me back to where I Chivaz and I had been sitting for a little reacquainted kissing, grouping, etc. Then she led me to one of the rooms in the kino area. Enough has been written about this Czech beauty so I don’t feel a need to describe her. Her service is everything I remembered it was and more. A very nice contrast to Daniela. I find it an incredible turn-on the way she stares at you when performing her amazing blow-job. She is a passionate and sexy woman and really makes you feel special. Afterwards she asked me why I had been away for so long. It had been nearly a year since my last session with her. I won’t wait that long again.
After contributing to her scholarship fund and did my duty and told her to come see my friend after she was done freshening up. She thanked me and said that she be would over soon. Our friend Chivaz was right were I left him waiting patiently. I explained that she should be a fine and fun contrast to Daniela and would probably be just the right medicine. She arrived, I made introductions, they got to know each other FKK-Style and then left for greener pastures. Again, I will leave it to Chivaz to share his impressions, but I can confidently say that he, like most of us, was very impressed by Andrea’s charms.
I was strongly considering another round with Daniela before hitting the road, but I was pretty sure that the evening’s sex-romp had left me spent. Before leaving I went over to her and wished her a happy vacation and we gave each other a few goodbye gropes and kisses. I am looking forward to the end of June, which should be her approximate return date.
Thus ends my temporary obsession with this lady. She must have something to make me run all over Germany just to spend time with her. Also anyone who can make me pass on a trip to Palace to spend time with the lovely Marina must be doing something right.
Adieu,
Dedalus
after a decent night at oase friday, world was to be the destination of choice on saturday. i have not been that often to world (less than 10 times) and have sometimes in the past had problems finding the place, so this time i printed out directions from the board and took them with me. found the place without a single wrong turn. arrived before 15:00.
the weather was great and i spent some time chilling in the garden. the lineup was rather weak until 17:00 when the second shift was arriving. still an ok lineup for 3 o’clock saturday.
i had made plans to meet dedalus, who then text me that he would be running late so i had done 2 sessions before we met. the first one was with
name: nicole
hair: dark, long, dreadlocks
size: ~ 1,7 m
figure: slender, a bit worned, b breasts?
origin: serbian
born: ~ 1980
tattoos/piercing: ?
service: bbbj, dfk
other:
location: fkk world.
i had noticed nicole when i arrived and from distance i did not fancy her. i was relaxing in the kino when she made her move, and it was a move that would get me every time. instead of going for the dick grabbing, sucking etc. she walked up to me, sat down, looked me in the eyes and then without further notice went for an incredibly good and intimate dfk. i was sold.
she has imo very pretty face, has some kind of honesty to it (don’t know how to describe it better) and during the session, i pretty much focused on her face and the incredibly good dfk she provides. did not explore her body that much and i actually don’t remember much about the actual sex, but that girl is a damn good kisser. would repeat.
after the session i did some more chilling in the garden. i think world is going to be pretty hot this summer. the lineup is getting better every time i get there and the facilities are unmatched by frankfurt and vicinity fkk clubs. flamingo island, although smaller, comes close in terms of faclilites, but imo lacks the lineup.
was ready for a second session around 17:30:
name: jemariene?
hair: dark
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: chubby, soft d breasts
origin: guadalupe
born: 1981
tattoos/piercing: ?
service: bbbj, dfk
other: good english
location: fkk world.
i am not able to get her name right, but i remember i tried to associate it with jamaraquie (the singer). she had come up to me couple of times and i had used the words “perhaps later” in my imo polite brush offs. when she came to me the third time i said no, and she then asked me why i had said “later”. i corrected her and told her i had also used the word “perhaps”. from that we had a nice discussion of ways to express non interest without being rude and at the same time not give indication of interest. one thing led to another and we ended up in a room (as so often happens with me when the discussion part is fun).
the session was so and so. she is actually not my type in terms of body and facial features, but she has a nice personality which made up for it. i was not that much into the session and enjoyed the conversational part better than the sexual part.
dedalus had arrived and immediately done session with daniela so he had a happy smile when we met in the upper bar area. conversation soon went into the direction of who is who at the club and comparing notes. i did not have much to contribute as my world sessions are not that many so i was in the student role. dedalus promised to point out andrea if she would show up as i have never been able to spot her. more on that later.
i had read dedalus’s reports on daniela and based on previous report comparison it seems that we have somewhat similar taste in girls so i asked him to introduce her to me which he happily did. one thing led to another so my third session of the day was with:
name: daniela
hair: brown, curly, shoulder length
size: 168 cm
figure: slender, firm, tastefully enhanced b/c breasts
origin: rumanian
born: 1975
tattoos/piercing: none
service: bbbj, dfk, pse, gfe…. you name it
other:
location: fkk world.
she suggested that we would start in the relaxzone downstairs in one of the sofas. there we began kissing that soon found its way to bbbj. after a while i suggested we find a room. “ok she said”, and then “i never suggest going to room, i always wait until man wants to go to room”. this girls has some good work ethic.
in the room i made an effort to look for her sweet spots and was able to push some buttons that had her going pretty wild and very vocal. i remembered a quote from a board member that says something like “you don’t fuck daniela, daniela fucks you”. well, i decided to try to turn the table and gave her my best effort to have the upper hand in the session and she seemed to enjoy it. i lack the vocabulary in the english language to do this girl justice, but it was a half hour energetic fuckathon that had various bodily parts going into various holes.
when i returned to the upper floor, i found dedalus with the look of a man that is anxious to know if his recommendation was appreciated. i know the feeling when you highly recommend a girl to someone. you feel a bit responsible for the session and hope it goes well. all i can say is “dude! bullseye”. daniela is a girl that i might not have chosen was it not for dedalus’s recommendation and i will be eternally greatful, this was one of the highlights of my mongering career.
i told daniela after the session to meet me at midnight for another session
dedalus did a second run with daniela that he has posted and all i could think of at this time was that i could probably not wait until midnight for a second go so when she came over to chat around 21:30 (she can actually carry out an interesting conversation in english), i went for another session with her. i told her from the start that this time we would do 1 hour session. she said that we would have to go to one of the rooms with mirrors as she wanted to see what i was doing to her that was making her so crazy. i really did not care if there were mirrors or not, but she insisted. we stayed in the hallway downstairs waiting for the mirrored room making out like teenagers. as we were pretty much blocking the hallway (which i think was not appreciated by some of those who were passing by), i suggested we find another room “no” she said, “we will wait until we get a room with mirrors”.
we walked upstairs to see if one of the vip rooms was free and decided to wait there for a while. all of a sudden, daniela spotts the couple coming upstairs that had been occupying the mirrored room downstairs, she screams out and sprints the hallway, down the stairs screeming and shouting. i’ve never seen girl run this fast in such high heels, but she was able to get the room she wanted.
i will not go into details of the hour long session now took place. it was an extreme joy, disturbing, intimate and at times freeked me out. just a total rollercoster ride. wheew, what a night this was turning out to be.
when i returned to the sofa upstairs where dedalus was resting, i think i just babbled some uncomprehensive words of total confusion and disbelief. guys, this girl is great fun from the start, and if you are able to get under her skin, you will be riding a rollercoster wether you like it or not. don’t ask me what i mean by this as i will not explain it further.
now it was a time for some extensive rest. dedalus informed me that he had seen czeck andrea and intended to have a go. i was drained at the time, but i asked him to introduce her to me when they had finished. when dedalus returned, he introduced us and after she did some proper introduction with different body parts, we went to a room and i had my 5th and 6th session pop of the day with:
name: andrea
hair: black, long
size: 160 cm
figure: slim, mmmmmm
origin: czeck rep.
born: 1983
tattoos/piercing: none
service: bbbj, dfk, dt, gfe, anal …. pretty much anything and everything
other: yummy
location: fkk world.
i decided that i would need 1 hour with this girl to enjoy it to the fullest, and informed her of my decision. as i had finished an unbelievable session with daniela not so long ago, i had no hopes of topping that. i was wrong. andrea gave me an unbelivable session. at this time i must stress that i am not a newbee at fkk that thinks that every girl that french kiss is the best. i’ve been visiting the big three for several years and sampled some of the best but this evening just blew my mind.
andrea started with a soft and nice bbbj (in between dfk), and i soon decided to give her the chivaz royal daty. man, this girl has the sweetest most beautiful pussy i’ve seen. i could just munch on that thing for hours. we continued to explore various body parts. then she mounts me 69 and started to give me this incredible deep throat (and by that i mean deep throat). at this time i was just euphoric about this night, i could not help but start to laugh of the whole thing. she seemed happy i was having a good time.
when i came, the session had probably lasted about 45 minutes. i asked her if she knew how long we had stayed in the room, and she said no, that i would have to keep track as she had no idea. i thought what the hell, i am gonna stay as long as i want to. did some relaxing and chatting with her. went for a drink, some more chat and a smoke, and then we started the whole thing all over again with tounges everywhere, more dt etc..
this was my sixth pop of the day and i was not sure if i could finish, but she was determined. the things that she did to make me come can only be described as acrobatic.
when the second round was over, we stayed for a while in the room. i had totally lost track of time. i checked my watch before we started, but had at this time forgotten when we started. when we were ready to get out, i asked her if she knew how long time we had spent in the room. “no” she said, “but i think it was more than an hour” she added with a kind of worried expression as i might disagree. “yes, i am sure it was more than an hour” i said and we agreed it had probably been hour and a half.
when i returned to the couch and did some calculating with dedalus, we figured i had probably spent little over 2 hours with her. i will make it up to her next time. but i can say that she is not a clock watcher, at least not on this occasion.
dedalus and i left at the same time and agreed this had indeed been a night to remember. a night that now stands alone at the top of a list of numerous fkk encounters.
the day after i had planned a sunday daytime visit to palace before my flight home later that evening. at this time i thought about skipping that and quit while on top for the time beeing, but when i woke up the following noon, i of course could not pass on the opportunity to have a peek on what palace had to offer. more on that in next report.
chivaz
For those that frequent this great FKK place: anyone know Maria (Polish)? Short, slightly padded, blonde hair, and a great attitude? I was with her last year and would love to see her again if I can work a Frankfurt visit into the next couple of months. Any info is appreciated! Happy mongering!
Hey guys, if any of you will be at either World or Palace on Wednesday afternoon/evening/night, I'll be there with some friends of mine. At both places, I tend to hang around the bar. I'm wanting to put some faces with the names on here. SO if you are going shoot me a PM.
V
Dedalus, Chivaz,
I really enjoyed your reports. Andrea and Daniela are certainly as great as both of you experienced. I have known both of them for a long time, and I can fully testify to the fact that your reports are not exagerated. I have known Andrea since her first week at World (and I believe that I was the first one to report on her in this forum ;-)). Andrea's people skills are absolutely amazing. She is just the nicest person you could ever meet - inside or outside of an FKK. And I knew Daniela before her enhanced days, but she always has had this incredible appetite for sex. She is truly a nymphomaniac. With her, you never seem to get the faked performance, but true lust. I am also not an exhibitionist, but she managed to f*** me in the middle of the "wintergarten" at World. (I was lucky that I had just come back from another session before she attacked me. That made me last longer with her than I otherwise would have. Still, I only lasted about 20 minutes with her before I could not hold back from popping.)
Neither of these two girls ranks in my top-10 all-time as far as looks go. But together with Oase's Eva and two girls I had in Rio, these two make my top-5 all-time in terms of performace and sheer enthusiasm.
... ahh, I wish I was at World right now ...
You guys are lucky dogs!!!
euro
Hi Euro,
Glad you enjoyed.
Now that I have had some time to reflect a bit on last Saturday, I agree that those two are perhaps not the most beautiful girls you can find in a "looking from a few meters" kind of a way. I would though say that while having sex, their expressions are great. Andreas big eyes staring at you with this horny mouth expressions are just amazing. Danielas vocal expressions do the same for me. Both of them are beautiful girls with good bodies although not the model types. It is their performance and attidues towards you that just make them more sexy and beautiful. I would not want to rank them against each other. Both are amazing and different.
While at World, the idea of a threesome with them sprang into my mind, but when I think more of it, I think it is a bad idea. You need your full attention on each of those girls. Can't do them justice by sharing.
I would say from waist down, Andrea is unbeaten in my book, ohhh what a wonderful pussy, I can still remember the look, smell and taste of her. There's a thing to get addicted to. Just as good that I don't live in the area. I agree that she is the sweetest thing (the whole package). It is amazing that the girl can be like that after two years of hard work in this business.
In terms of emotional rollercoster kind of thing, I have very seldom had a session like with Daniela, she has a way to create an atmosphere in the room like no other can. I still have trouble believing some things were real, but there were some things going on that are pretty hard to fake.
I still am euphoric over last Saturday, having those prolonged sessions with them where I was able to click with both of them after an average night at Oase on Friday was like heaven on earth.
Time now to my blood pressure to normal,
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Chivaz]
While at World, the idea of a threesome with them sprang into my mind, but when I think more of it, I think it is a bad idea. You need your full attention on each of those girls. Can't do them justice by sharing.
Chivaz[/QUOTE]
Man, a threesome with those two is a heart attack just waiting to happen!
I agree that, as wild and sexy as it may sound, these girls are best enjoyed one on one. Then again, who knows...;-)
Rumor is that Daniela is still there. I may have to make a run to world just to survey the lay-out;-)
Cheers,
Dedalus
[QUOTE=Euro100]
Neither of these two girls ranks in my top-10 all-time as far as looks go. But together with Oase's Eva and two girls I had in Rio, these two make my top-5 all-time in terms of performace and sheer enthusiasm.
... ahh, I wish I was at World right now ...
You guys are lucky dogs!!!
euro[/QUOTE]
Euro,
Have you seen Eva/Gina in lately? I would love to see her again. I hear now and then rumors of her mid-week appearances but have not seen her in awhile.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Funny how YMMV with the grils. Although I found Eva very sweet and nice conversation, She really did not get my juices flowing that much sexual wise and the sex part of our session was only so and so. The chat we had afterwards was very nice though.
My top three that are working at the moment are Andrea and Daniela at World and Lizzy at Oase. Unfortunately, I think Lizzy only shows up once in a while. I have heard wonderful things about Cindy and Marina at Palace, but never been able to catch a session with them. There is always something yet to try.
Chivaz
[url]www.fkk-world.de[/url], they have updated the site and there are some new girl pictures
Chivaz
Several quick answers:
I did not mean to imply that Daniela and Andrea are bad-looking; they are gorgeous, but just not in my top 10. And I agree that Andrea has a great pair of legs and what's between them.
Eva: I mean the girl from Denmark who shows up only occasionally at Oase. I have never heard her called Gina. Perhaps we are not talking abou the same girl.
New FKKW web site: yes, this is a definite improvement. Now they are showing girls that actually work there. Before, they just had stock footage on display. Plus, the new web site really gives you a feeling of what the facilities look like.
euro
Euro,
Eva has sometimes gone by the name of Gina and claims to be Danish but there is some controversy about that as well. Rumor is that she is actually Lithuanian. God love all these ladies but it is difficult to know the truth about any of them.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I arrived at World around 2 p.m. after having met an undertowel-investigator who had been observing the place for the last days and had already reported about Ramona´s return. The weather was great ( the first really sunny weekend this year in Germany) and I couldn´t wait to place myself at the outdoor-pool. "Come all over have some fun, banging in the midday sun..."
No chance. Katharina wanted to stay at a nice, cool place and I was overruled 2 (tits) : 1 (heini) to walk to one of the small rooms behind the cinema. OK, I didn´t have to regret it - the session was great, as always. Katharina plans to stay until May, 5th, eventually until May, 12th at World and will go back to Russia, then. Her return is announced for September.
Her stats again, for all those guys who are quick enough:
name: Katharina
origin: Russia
born: ~ 1981
hair: blond, straight, long
figure: slender, C-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for great GFE
Seeing this as my farewell-session to Katharina, I was looking out for my welcome-session with Ramona. But this turned out to be somewhat like "Waiting for Godot" - she was just too busy.
Ellie from Bulgaria couldn´t see me suffering (in fact she wanted to earn some money, but that´s just too disenchanting to write down) and started to comfort me. And she didn´t need long to convince me that it would be a waste of time just sitting around waiting for Ramona Godot.
"Miss Ellie" looks like the average "girl next door", but she has a very winning personality and behaviour - in fact I wished I had at least one girl like her next door. that would save me 180 km per weekend - and some Euros.
She delivered DFK, lots of tender stroking and cuddling during the "presales"-phase already, an forced up at the room. She chose the mirror chamber for our session, so I could adore 4 Ellies performing arts (the only bad thing were the three guys in the mirrors wearing 5 kg too much weight on their hips. Either we have to do some workout or we´ll have to avoid this room in the future. Anyway, Ellie did a good job so we were able to overcome our frustration easily). Ellie delivered a true GFE. Like Katharina and Ramona she is able to give you the illusion that she is enjoying exactly the things you want to do right now. A clear recommendation for GFE-lovers, as you can see on my girl number three this day: Ellie again. I had to. She left me no choide. But I wouldn´t have wanted another one. She´ll be on vacation from next week on.
Her stats:
name: Ellie
origin: Bulgaria
born: ~ 1982)
hair: brown, curly, shoulder-length
figure: slender, B/C-breast
height: ~ 155 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for GFE
Number four was Alina from Romania, a very good-looking young girl with really good German skills (I know, that´s interesting only for me...) and enough brain to make good use of this. A charming person. In the room she delivered good service without losing control. I will surely repeat, but next time I´ll try to get closer to her mentally before getting close to her physically. The weakest session of the evening, but still a really good one. She´ll be off for vacation from pentcost on.
her stats:
name: Alina
origin: Romania
born: ~ 1982
hair: dark, straight, shoulder-length
figure: slender, B/C-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: YMMV
It was midnight, and I decided to relax for two hours. Woke up again at 2 p.m. (not getting disturbed by any woman thanks to Ruth at the lower bar who protected me) and went upstairs for a snack. And who was there waiting to serve the next 50€-note on legs? Her Royal seductiveness, Queen of Hearts Ramona Godot the First and Only! GFE at it´s best. Sweet thing - she made my heart sing. She just came back from vacation and will stay until July.
Her stats:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highest recommendation for great GFE
And the end I gave two fellow mongers a lift to the airport (it was really great meeting you and the other fellow members!) - three guys, three cases and the rest of my Stuttgart survival kit - we really filled the car. But it was a funny end of a nice night at World.
Have fun,
Novize
[QUOTE=Euro100]Now they are showing girls that actually work there. [/QUOTE]
Objection: Most of the girls shown in the Gallery don´t work at World anymore. Some of them quit the job completely and don´t even work at another club.
Have fun,
Novize
Friday the 29th
Even a terrific club like FKK World can have its off days. It would be unfair for us to expect that this Sauna club giant should be immune from these phases. Still, after so many naughty nights ensconced in the bosom of World’s wonderful and exciting debauchery, one tends to get picky and “Tiefphasen” such as what I observed this past Friday can make you wonder if all the stars in the FKK galaxy are properly aligned.
A trip to Pohlheim was already on my agenda for this Friday. Even though I spent the last several weeks concentrating mainly on Daniela, this did not stop me from making a long list of World-angels that would need my blessings in the near future, and with Daniela’s pending absence I was sure that there would be no better time than the present to undertake my plans.
On Friday morning I received words, much to my surprise that Lady D was still working her charms in Pohlheim. This served as a great incentive to hit the road running.
Arrived at World around 6:20, which upon reflection was not bad considering the Friday traffic jams. Word soon reached me that I missed Daniela by one day. “Mist” as the Germans would say. Still, as I had a “to-do” list, I was not too heart broken. Also it would be a good night meet and get to know several board members who made the evenings festivities even more entertaining than usual.
At the bar I made eye contact with CINDY as she strolled up to where I was standing. I had been through this ritual with her during my last visit but decided to pass on a session. Cindy is a real looker and her glasses are a real turn-on in my opinion! She flirts with them there eyes as well as or better than any FKK girl that I know. After exchanging the obligatory “Hellos”, name exchanges, and some bar-stool touchy-feelies, she led me off to the World kino with its massive couches. I could not help admiring those long legs the entire walk over. My hopes were indeed high for a wonderful session. We set up our love shack on the back couch and everything started out pretty promisingly. We engaged in a bit a tongue action, which after some of the reports that I read, somewhat pleasantly surprised me. She used her mouth and tongue with great expertise all over my body. Her BBBJ skills are top notch and these alone may be worthy of a repeat performance. As we got into the sex, things started to go a little south when I started putting my hands on a few body parts that must have been overly sensitive (feet, underarms, vagina). Now I am pretty generous in situations like this. It is not the first time that a girl has asked me not to touch her in a certain area and I always respect this. What I don’t like is when a girl slaps my hands away. One gets that from window and laufhaus girls and not from the better FKK ladies. Also this action is one of the few things that a girl can do to ruin an otherwise good session. It was strange because she seemed quite open during foreplay to letting me touch her breasts, vagina, etc, yet during the sex she became really weird about it.
The session was still OK and I wondered to myself and a few other FKKers whether or not Cindy would be a Top-Act if one were to invest more time and dough in her. She is so damn cute that despite my disappointment I almost did a repeat with her in the hopes that she would be more open and adventurous. I may well give her another chance on my next visit. Fazit: Great foreplay, sub-standard sex.
After the Cindy-session I went looking for a few board members who I knew would be there. I had a good time conversing with Shiatsu, Cordelia, Pepto, and the Admiral. To one and all: I enjoyed making your acquaintances and hope that we can meet up again soon.
Later, the lovely RAMONA approached me thanks to the good judgment and observations of dear ole’ Fred who sent her my way. She approached me from behind and after dealing with a minor eye problem we exchanged glances. This is another lady with super eye-flirting abilities! I was quickly hooked and led away by this Romanian beauty. My session with her turned out to be another Rumanian success story and makes me wonder where all the negative critiques of the Rumanians have come from. I have even spoken with girls from other clubs who, when they talk about FKKW, always mention the high number of Rumanians who work there. What gives?
Our good friend Novize has described Ramona so well that I cannot add anything new. I will say that for those who want a true GFE experience, this is the lady. After three weeks of crazy, complicated, wild gymnastics with other Rumanians, Ramona was just what the sex-doctor ordered. Our session would prove to be so satisfying that I would repeat it later in the evening.
Thank goodness for Ramona, for the line-up that evening was sub-par at best. There were a few nice girls present but compared to the last few weeks of other worldly line-ups at Pohlheim, the outlook was a bit bleak.
Aside from the ravishing Ramona, probably the highlight of the evening came at about 20 minutes till closing time. Usually when the morning hours start to roll in, it seems as though the girls at World begin to take on an aura of frisky silliness combined with occasion fits of mad-cap humor. Perhaps this is the result of sheer fatigue however I would not rule out other “inspirations.” As Pepto, Admiral and I were relaxing on the sofas two young ladies (I wish I knew their names) began to enact a 10-15 minute sex-parody, occasionally using a rolled up towel in the form of a rather thick penis as a prop. It was grand hilarity! Try to imaging what it would look like if the comedic souls of Chico and Harpo Marx were trapped in the bodies of two shapely-adorables. Then picture the two of them doing a lampoon on the Kama Sutra. The three of us were grabbing our sides from laughter.
Thus ended a night of great FKK fellowship and fun, despite the middle-of-the-road dance card. I am quite certain that the thinning out of World talent was an exception and not the rule. I am still betting that this will be the place to be this summer.
Cheers to all,
Dedalus
Dedalus,
Cindy CAN be a very good provider, but her service can be very strange, too. This doesn´t really depend on her customers, it depends solely on herself.
My sessions with her are a while back, but I remember them as really good ones. I never approached her, but waited for her to prover her flirting skills at me for some time before I went to action with her. And, the sessions became better with the time. I think she knows most of the customers and what to expect from them. And if she is really in the mood to earn her money at you, she´s a great provider. When she is not in the mood for the kind of play you want, she won´t flirt with you.
Of course this works with known customers only. As I read your report, it was your first session with her (or, better, her first session with you). This working method is a "hit or miss" for the first session. But when she will start flirting with you the next time, she will know what you prefer. If she doesn´t start the flirt, she´s not willing to provide the service you´re looking for. Maybe she won´t look at you for weeks and then, suddenly, approach you without warning.
As for the Romanians: I think the complaints about the Romanians are not caused by the romanian girls who work at World for a longer time but by those "short term visitors", who stay at the club for two or three wekks, provide services under price and get fired after the first health-check or for what reason ever. In big numbers, romanion girls like these show up at World only, ans that´s an issue for the other girls.
Have fun,
Novze
Hey all i will be back in germany from 9-16 and would love to meet up for a party at world. anyone else who might like to do it drop me a line and i will make plans for the date. I may also try my luck in Poland. Have read some good things. PM me and i will gve ya my number
reddog
I visited World three times (also visiting Oase on which I have reported) - Thursday, Friday and Sunday. I was very slow on the sessions - only going three times despite being there for some long time.
The Club had a good atmosphere on most days - there were enough men on most days to keep the girls happy. As the girls say - keine Manner, Keine Geld, keine Ficky Ficky, Scheiss (or something like that) This time they were more relaxed most of the time, with no aggressive marketing.
The only exception was Thursday. I got bothered a bit much by girls I did not fancy - one Serbian (the one with braided extensions actually bit ( I mean really bit) my nose when I refused her - I was polite but she was not. I think she is a bit mad. On Friday she spent about six hours with a man, both she and he dressed in towels so she was not working, but from time to time she pretended to be doing something sexy to show off and then laughed unpleasantly ant anyone who watched her. On Saturday she had sex in the garden and one man was watching - she got irritated that she was being watched - but what does she expect in the garden? A very mixed up girl?
I went with Viagra. Well, actually that's the wrong verb. She jumped on top of me. Lips, breasts, bum and all. To say nothing of wandering hands and her huge laugh. I could not resist. I like Viagra because you get what you see -uncomplicated good natured energetic sex. I had a second session with her on a different day - this time she jumped on me and we had sex on one of the couches. Viagra will for preference have sex in public - it 's good for business. When I had come (all too quickly) she stayed on the couch for the rest of the half hour. Of course I believe Viagra when she says she is there only for me and cries when I go (gales of Viagra laughter)
I also went with Hannah. My fifth session in total with her. She is getting better at sex. More interesting was the talk we had in the room - many of the girls want to discuss the issue of partners/spouses knowing about me and them being in an FKK - for some of the girls it is an issue since they would like to tell their boyfriends etc. that they work at World. Of course some of them have already done this.
I lost my locker key - the cost for replacement is 50E. Fortunately my belongings were intact and at the end of the night I got the 50E back as some honest soul had handed it in. I informed the reception that it was a great shame as I had been intending to give the 50e to a girl - reception (Anastasia?) feigned blushing embarassment that I had been going to give it to her (or was it my awful German which caused her to blush)
Petra at the bar continues to campaign to correct my German. And I realised they give alcohol free beer - which brightens up the quiet moments
The non-recipient of my key-diverted 50E would have been Magda. I had though t she did not recognise me but she spoke to me and detailed all of our previous encounter from three months previous. I wonder how the girls remember such detail. By the way - there is a picture of her on the World website (does not do her justice)
The sun was shining on Sunday so there were lots of men. And the good thing is that most of them were looking for women, not just sunbathing (wrinkles and leathers the skin). The grill was out - a diet of sausage, sausage, and sausage from now until September. The atmosphere was excellent in the afternoon - at one point there were no free girls but lots of confused men "I have come to an FKK and all I can find are men!" As the day wore on the girls had lots of time as the number of men fell, but as thay had had a surprising good afternoon they seemed more relaxed than normal.
So, once again, World emerges as my favourite - especially after the awful experience I had at Oase.
Hi Shiatsu,
I had a pretty good session with the Serbian two weeks ago. Did not fancy her body, but her DFK is really good.
Viagra told me that she is not the same Viagra that was there last year, that it was her sister. I don't know if that is true or not. I agree with your assesment of her and I have had very fun times with her although I have never found my way into room with her.
Chivaz
Chivaz
I'm sure the Serbian may well be good in the room - it's just that my nose was very sore from her teeth. And that's not the part of my anatomy I want overused at World.
Viagra was there last year - it sounds like a typical Viagra lunacy to tell you it was her sister. If you go to a room with her she behaves just as she is outside. Maybe I'm wrong but she seems genuinely comfortable with herself and her life and maybe that's why she gives good service. Not my favourite girl since I prefer a bit less over the top normally!!. Maybe that's why Viagra is good for me and why I like her.
Dedalus - you question why the negative comments about the Rumanians. I think you are right that this is no longer a reflection of how th club is. It's another reminder of how quickly things change.
In my opinion, as Novize says, the issue is not really with the longer term Rumanian girls who seem to be good. The problems were with a group who seem to have reduced in numbers. These ones tended to look upon the customers as mere money fodder and to keep themselves apart from the other girls. On my recent visit I noticed that nearly all of these were absent (maybe because of Orthodox Easter) and that the ethnic and age range of the club was much wider than previously. The balance seems to be much better now - and those Rumanians who are there seems to be fine - as you mention yourself, Ramona, Magda, Hannah (Hungarian? but I count her as Rumanian),
So I echo Novize and yourself - with the nice weather here don't let any wsg members be put off by Rumanian problems which appear to be now in the past (at least for this week)
By the way, I am told that Rumanian Ambra is coming back in July. She was there for six weeks last year in the university holidays. I found her to be a lovely sensible girl (Bet I can't remember what she looks like after a year)
We tried the Etap - about 15+ minutes drive from World and 50E a night for double. It was exceptionally good value. Very basic but clean and efficient with polite staff. Next to two gigantic sex shops and to supermarkets (ubiquitous Aldi and Lidl) and McDonalds and Burger King. Clientele was mainly working men and business men but no raucous stuff
We also returned to the Steinsgarten - 90E for a double if you prepay. In comparison to other hotels (apart from the Etap) in the area it is very good value. Much better if you want to sleep late and have a bit of comfort. Only ten minutes from World by car
Yes I can imagine she would be rather over the top. I can understand why she would be on your blacklist!. Certainly not GFE but energetic.
One wsg member I spoke to reported on the problems (now some time ago I think) he had because other wsg members had printed out his posts and showed them to the girls. This is something we discussed on the forum some time ago. Can I just ask any members who are thinking of telling the girls about who has posted what, not to do so. By the way, thanks to the member who, when one girl was was telling him about myself, kept a dicreet silence about my posts
Does World still have lingerie days and what days are they?
And, more importantly, how much lingerie is actually worn?
Thanks,
Pete
[QUOTE=Shiatsu]The only exception was Thursday. I got bothered a bit much by girls I did not fancy - one Serbian (the one with braided extensions actually bit ( I mean really bit) my nose when I refused her - I was polite but she was not. I think she is a bit mad. On Friday she spent about six hours with a man, both she and he dressed in towels so she was not working, but from time to time she pretended to be doing something sexy to show off and then laughed unpleasantly ant anyone who watched her. On Saturday she had sex in the garden and one man was watching - she got irritated that she was being watched - but what does she expect in the garden? A very mixed up girl?[/QUOTE]Hi Shiatsu,
I was the guy who spent more than six hours with Nicola and I must say it was one of my best GFE experiences in the World. She was working but only with me and we had three wonderful sessions. We both were tired from the days before and we took it bit slower. I met Nicola Wednesday on one of my 6 sessions (that’s why I was so tired) and we could find it with each other, so I decided to spend the Friday afternoon with here. Indeed she sometimes was doing something sexy to other men (even to my brother) but I think it was here way to make me a bit jealous and to urge me for another session.
It was a wonderful day for me and I will repeat it the next time I’m going over there. I prefer to stay the whole day with the same girl (when it’s going very good) than to jump from one girl to another and have a few bad sessions. Not that I had one this time.
Maybe it wasn’t here day Thursday and I’m glad she didn’t bite me and that everything is still hanging where it should be. I hope I can go back very soon.
Greetings,
Pilot
This is Tuesdays. Basicaly it's bra and knickers or camisoles etc. The approach tends to be feminine rather than sexy or raunchy (well, in my opinion anyway)
Just curious, as long as we're on the subject of these bloody dessous tags, etc: Can anyone explain why they have these things anyway? I mean, is there really some kind of fascination amongst the German male population with girls being semi-clad as opposed to "splitter nakt" (stark naked) as they normally are? Do the club managers really think that some guys are just holding back from fkking during the weekend, just waiting for that one weekday night when the girls cover up a bit? Is it supposed to be some kind of a draw? And because one club does it, e.g. Oase on Thurs nights, so the other two clubs follow suit so that they conform to the traditional pattern? Is that it?
Personally, I always dread the cover-up nights at these clubs, and wonder privately whether some girls also think it is a bunch of burdonsome bullshit, because they then have to A) cough up some cash to buy their one-day-per-week outfit; B) have to enter the creativity competition when their outfits are inevitably compared to other girls' costumes...
So just curious: Do any of you regular fkk visitors actually enjoy these nights? I certainly wouldn't cry if they did away with them. But that is because they seem so pointless to me. Can somebody enlighten me as to the point behind them?
Thanks.
I can think of a variety of reasons. 1) new girls might feel more comfortable partially clothed. 2) Variety, sometimes less is more. 3) The atmospere becomes less brothel and more strip club. Creativity is not a bad thing. At Palace most girls wrap something around their waist instead of using a towel. It makes them more distinguishable.
Like my eteemed coleague Ortos, I prefer naked to dessous and will try and avoid a club on dessous tag. However, it is also a real turn on to undress a girl, or to feel her up over her little panties, pull them aside and play with her, pull them down slowly and even leave them around her thighs while you- well you get the picture. Problem is, most girls won't let you mess with their costumes (one exception was the lovely Nina in Amsterdam- she is great at the lap dance foreplay). They tend to just take it off quickly by themselves.
I guess one must buy them something and have them put it on so you can take it off again any way you please.
Shiatsu- Nicola bit you? I went with her one time though I did not fancy her either. She caught me at a at a vulnerable moment when I was totally kaput, it was basically a mellow massage, talk, and nap session. It was a mistake, she was nice enough but very aggressive girl.
Member Novize- you wrote:
Cindy CAN be a very good provider, but her service can be very strange, too. This doesn´t really depend on her customers, it depends solely on herself.My sessions with her are a while back, but I remember them as really good ones. I never approached her, but waited for her to prover her flirting skills at me for some time before I went to action with her. And, the sessions became better with the time. I think she knows most of the customers and what to expect from them. And if she is really in the mood to earn her money at you, she´s a great provider. When she is not in the mood for the kind of play you want, she won´t flirt with you. Of course this works with known customers only. As I read your report, it was your first session with her (or, better, her first session with you). This working method is a "hit or miss" for the first session. But when she will start flirting with you the next time, she will know what you prefer. If she doesn´t start the flirt, she´s not willing to provide the service you´re looking for. Maybe she won´t look at you for weeks and then, suddenly, approach you without warning.
Very interesting. On my second day at World, after playfully yelling at me that I was spending too much time in the garden and not enough on sex, Cindy took me to the kino. As I tried to kiss her, she turned away (my breath was perfect- I gargle and eat Listerine strips all day and brush after I eat. I tried again and she said- If you want to kiss then I guess you must find another girl- then she left me in the kino. For months now I ignore or we smile a bit, she sees I am a fairly regular customer every couple of months, but last week, she was again pinching my ass a couple of times. Is it time to try again? Do you like her hair black or blonde better.
Enjoyed seeing all you guys last week. Working on some reports.
Beffen
Pilot - Well done. Thanks for correcting my false conclusions. I am really pleased to hear that you had a good time and that Nicole is good. You obviously got on very well with her - the pair of you seemed not to be provider and client. It is hard to guess whether a girl is good or not - I think maybe my bitten nose may have impaired my judgement!!
Ortos - from what I understand dessous is not popular with the girls. And it's certainly not popular with me.
OK, time to confess. I am one of the twisted weirdos who like the dessous days. Eye-candy for me. Properly placed, some of these sexy outfits can really enhance the body.
I remember the Oase holiday party a ocuple of years ago. Jasmin had one of these cute red Santa hats on, red fishnet stockings that went halfway up her upper thigh, red garter belt, nothing else. That really got me into the Christmas spirit! (Excuse me while I wipe the drool off my keyboard...) We never actually bothered to take any of this off during sex.
:-)
euro
Shiatsu,
Thank you for your positive reaction. I just wanted to let you know I had such a good time with Nicola and that she deserves also good comments on the forum. We could get on very well with each other and it didn’t seem or feel like a provider-client thing at all. That’s probably the reason why I (and Nicola also) had such a great time and if I could do it over again I wouldn’t doubt a second.
I can understand that other men (including you) haven’t had such a good experience with her. I’ve had it also with other girls. It changes in many cases from day to day and from person to person.
Next time we have to talk to each other. I didn’t know who you were. It’s a pity.
Greetings,
Pilot
If any club owner is reading this forum and is at all interested, please note that the first thing I learn about your club is when its dessous day (if any) is, and the second thing is that I then strictly avoid going to your club on that day.
Visited World again last sunday to meet some friends. I Arrived around 8 p.m. and missed many faces I´ve grewn accustomed to in the last weeks (months? years? God, they´re getting old!). Therfor I recognized lots of new women.
My last week´s new experience Alina had a new friend, Larissa. She was working at World for two weeks already, but I hadn´t recognized her so far. A very pretty , friendly face, and dark glowing eyes convinced me to give her a try.
Although the place was very quiet, she suggested to go to a room immediately. I didn´t object, and we ended in one of these boxes beneath the masseur. Her service was a little bit artificial (alright, it´s always artificial, but who wants to recognize that during the session), but she really tried to please - and succeeded in the end... ;-)
Very talented, she just needs some experience to make a great session instead of "just" a very good one. (Is it possible that I´m too spoiled in the meantime by having met so many great providers in the last three years?). Anyway, this girls has potential, I will repeat surely.
Her stats:
name: Larissa
origin: Romania
born: ~ 1982
hair: black ponytail
figure: slender, female, C-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: a talented newcomer
Having recovered from the session after some time I place myself on a couch in the upper hall and watched the scenery, thinking of who might be my next victim. I had recognized Romanza already, but she seemed to be a little frustrated. I decided to approach her in the early morning. Alina again? There would be time enough for a ittle warm-up-chat before the session, since the place was very quiet now. Or a newcomer again? There were some really interesting new women...
As always, when one thinks for too long, the decision gets made by another one. This time it was Christina/Chrissie - not from Poland, but from Romania (? I didn´t even ask, it´s just a guess). She sat herself on my lap and began some intense DFK until I surrendered and we went off for a room.
We had a more "sportive" session, something I usually do not prefer. But what she did was very good. It was just not my style. I would recommend her for those guys who like it more sportive than I do. She offered sometheing between GFE and PSE. Hard to describe after just having survived Father´s Day...
Her stats:
name: Chrissie/Christina
origin: Romania (?)
born: ~ 1982
hair: dark-blond, curly, shoulder-length
figure: slender, A-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: intimate PSE? Sportive GFE?
It was time for some extreme relaxing, so I slept a couch at the lower bar, where I was quiet sure not to be waken up by "love-seeking" females.
I woke up just in time to have a little chat with my friends at the upper bar before they left. Alone between women... For my great luck, Romanza was already standing beside me, so I didn´t have to think about what to do next. Romanza again, this time pampering me just laying on my back. The great thing about Romanza is, that whatever you want, she gets it and seems to enjoy giving you pleasure. Imho that´s what makes a good provider an aoutstanding one...
Her stats again ans again:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highest recommendation for great GFE
After the session we went to the sauna together until it was time to dress. Again the best at last...
are there currently any non-romanian women at World?
Peter,
Yes, there are.
First I have to admit that Chrissy isn´t from Romania but from Bulgaria, as I was taught in the meantime.
Then, there were about 5 - 6 Latinas on duty, also numerous girls from Czech, Poland and Germany.
But the main source for supplies still is Romania, followed by Bulgaria. Since early 2004, in anticipation of the EU-enlargement...
But most of the romanian girls working at World now are very nice, not the moneysuckers anymore that used to fill the place.
Have fun,
Novize
Just to echo Novize.
I think the percentage of Rumanians has eased. The ones who did not give good service seem to have gone. Bad service doesn't do the club any good. The club now has a really good atmosphere. The women seem to have a camaraderie absent in some other clubs
There are Brazilian, Cuban. Jamaican, German, other East European/Russian, and English to my knowledge. So the complaints about Rumanian seem now to be past (although I notice on one German forum that someone still is complaining)
[quote=toscana]if any club owner is reading this forum and is at all interested, please note that the first thing i learn about your club is when its dessous day (if any) is, and the second thing is that i then strictly avoid going to your club on that day.[/quote]
hi tosc, i also used to avoid the dessous day, having had bad experiences a couple of years ago (higher average age, big tummies concealed, and simply not so much of a turn-on when the girls aren't as nature intended). however, i was at bhh last week and it had to be thursday! but i was really pleasantly surprised. half the girls seemed to ignore the dessous code, and most of the others were very lightly draped in mini sashes and the like. i had a really good time and as long as it is optional as it seems to be these days, it's surely not going to be a problem. or are they stricter at fkkw??
It was a dull and dreary day in Frankfurt, when I set out to Pohlheim and FKK-World. I used the "dummies" directions, which is probably the most straigtforward instructions to reach FKK-World, without wondering around the countryside.
I reached there about 2:45 PM and it was very quiet. I even found parking in Parkplatz 2, which is normally overflowing. Paid the entry fee, disrobed and stashed my clothes in the locker and valuables in the small locker, showered and entered heaven [OT: Why do they have the colored coded, perforated band affixed to your wrist? Anyone?] Breakfast was the only food available there.
Settled down at the bar with a "cola" to survey the candy. There were only about 20 women and about 15 men, at that time. Very slow. I resolved to myself that the first session would be with one of the stars - Katherina, Andrea, Ramona, Larissa. But, I was still waiting for one of them, an hour later. So, I selected a new comer - Diana, from Moscow, an energy engineering student. She has been in Germany only for one month and has briefly worked in Oase in Burgholzhausen. She was about 175 cm tall, slim with slightly frizzled blonde hair and B-cups. She speaks decent English, which was very helpful in communicating with her. The session was allright, and as it was the first unload, ended rather quickly. Overall rating: 6.50/10.00
After the first session, I was trawling upstairs and downstairs to hook one of the stars, when magically Ramona introduced herself. I was not convinced that it really was her as I have never seen her before. Went to one of the VIP rooms for the first test drive - which fizzled out, as it was less than an hour after the first session. Jr. would not cooperate and having no access to the little blue pill, completed the session with Ramona, by giving her a pressure points massage. She enjoyed the massage. So, no rating for Ramona, yet. By the way, does the clock continue to run, when you give a massage to the service provider? Could someone clarify this, please?
Took a three-hour break after Ramona. Spent a lot of time in the 95 sauna, walking outside in the garden, cooling off in the cool drizzle and just lounging around on the couches, watching the action. There seemed to be a lot of Russian girls today. Irina and Mary were only two of this group. There was also a pretty Turkish student, who was working only her third weekend at FKK-World. A very shy girl - Alisha. Also, looked at an Oriental girl [Thai?] who was working there. Does anyone have any field reports in this one? Looked hot! And, the contingent from Brazil was in operation, accosting potential clients.
Towards the end, I watched some terrific couch action being provided by Sarah, a French[M]-Iranian[F] from Strasbourg, with very pretty eyes and slighly saggy, definitely not bouncy C-cups, accompanied by a headful of pretty black hair. Dragged Sarah to the kino and she did not disappoint. Excellent dfk and bbbj was provided. She watches you constantly with her dreamy, beautiful eyes, during dfk and bbbj, which makes it all the more erotic. CIM was an option at E50 upgrade. Also, anal was an option at E100 upgrade. She has a nice f/licky technique, which is quite pleasurable, especially when she is working on the inner-upper thighs and balls. Overall rating:8.00/10.00. I would certainly repeat with her.
Unfortunately, I could not locate Andrea of the Czech Republic or Katharina from Russia. I do not know if they were off, this weekend.
Even with this low level of activity, I was terribly hungry by this time. And, so I left by 9:00 PM for Frankfurt, for a nice steak dinner at the Maredo Steak House. Enjoyable evening, although the weather was terrible.
Cheers!
ChicagoMan
Thanks for the great report, Chicago! I alot of guys complain about rainy days, etc. But personally I can think of nothing better to do on a rainy day than visit an FKK!
[QUOTE=ChicagoMan][OT: Why do they have the colored coded, perforated band affixed to your wrist? Anyone?] [/QUOTE]
Since a lot of guys managed to get into the club without paying the entrance fee and then shared the locker with a friend, the management decided to use these bands.
Another advantage is for the accounting, since for every band used there should be 65,- € at the end of the day...
[QUOTE=ChicagoMan]By the way, does the clock continue to run, when you give a massage to the service provider? Could someone clarify this, please?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I can. And yes, the clock continues to run. The time spent in a room counts against the clock, whatever you do there.
(During a session, I once heard a man quoting parts of the Holy Bible in the next room. He had to pay. I couldn´t really do what I had in mind with the girls I was together because of this. I had to pay, too.)
[QUOTE=ChicagoMan]Unfortunately, I could not locate Andrea of the Czech Republic or Katharina from Russia.[/QUOTE]
Andrea´s on vacation but should be back at World soon.
Katharina has left Germany and will hopefully return in September.
Have fun,
Novize
One more night in world.
I was at world last Sunday along with some other members. I can only say I was surprised with my over all experience, because when I arrived I was a bit disappointed with the line up but over all I had a very nice time
A girl from Lithuania I forgot her name nothing special but did not like to kiss.
Then I had a great session with a Russian Diana I think I wish I could remember her name. She is a tall slim blond (I am told she has big feet) I did not notice. She is a good one to try if her names come back I will edit the post
Then had to go with Ramona I can only say that this Romanian just gets better every time. I hope I get to see her again this summer
Finished with a girl from Rio with a great A$$ (she often has a green belt think around her back side~) she was a bit rushed in the room but at 3 AM I did not what much more anyway.
I was at world saturday and sunday both days where a bit slow with the girls saturday i wnet home early as i was tired from all the traveling this week. Sunday i really thought it would be a bad day but it turned out to be quite ok. I am still looking forward to the summer at world.
RD
Hi RedDog,
Your Russian might have been Katharina, at least the description fits. She has consistent good reviews and is known to provide a good GFE (I have yet to sample). Don't know about the big feet thing though, have not noticed.
Chivaz
Chivaz,
Word from our on-site reporter Novize, is that Katharina is away for a few months causing great longing in the hearts of all her fans.
Cheers,
Dedalus
was Diana, a real cutie.
I have no personal experience with her, but she made a very good impression when I saw her taking care of other clients.
Have fun,
Novize
I went to World again for the usual sunday-routine. After having picked up a friend at his hotel we arrived at approx. 13:15. Unfortunately the weather didn´t allow a relaxing sunbath at the outside pool. Hope dies last, but if the weather won´t change soon, I´ll have to write a new version of the "summertime blues"...
The place was nearly empty when we entered, but should become more lively in the late afternoon/early evening.
Romanza appeared late that day, too late for me to wait for her. Although I recognized many new and interesting faces (and bodies :D ) I finally decided to approach Geri again.
The session with Geri was absolutely OK, although I was already weakened (by standing up too early and working too hard in the morning). So I didn´t went into action but let Geri just do her job. Not really easy without any feedback from the client, but Geri managed the situation perfectly and proved herself as a safe bet.
Her stats:
name: Geri
hair: brown, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slim, B-breasts
origin: Bulgarian
born: ~ 1984
tattoos/piercing: None
service: good GFE
other:
Although I hadn´t really done anything, I was hungry after the session. The food was OK and brought me back to life for a certain time.
After having recovered, I placed myself beneath Romanza, who was sitting on a couch waiting for a customer. After a short small-talk we went downstairs for the best 30-min.-romance 50 € can buy. What a great woman!!!
Her stats once more:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highest recommendation for great GFE
For the third session, I decided to approach someone who was new to me: Jacqueline from Poland. We had a very funny conversation in the upper hall before I invited her to go downstairs. Since I wasn´t into heavy action I opted for a BBBJTC, which she delivered perfectly.
Her stats:
name: Jacqueline
origin: Poland
born: 1985
hair: blond, long,
figure: slim, B-breast
height: ~175 cm
tattoos/piercings: big tattoo on her back
other:
I made an appointment with Romanza for the late evening, before I went for some extreme relaxing downstairs. But a most honourable fellow mwmber of this board decided that it was better for me to sleep and took my place instead. And he was right,. Having had a long hard day behind me I needed to sleep – I was already scheduled for Saunaworld the next day.
But this is another story…
Have fun,
Novize
Novize,
As my busy schedule has made it difficult for me to do much FKKing this month, your updates on the world situation have been very helpful, as well as making me a bit jealous. You will be a good chap and let me know if Daniela arrives back early from her vacation, will you?
Cheers,
Dedalus (Who is looking forward to a Frankfurt FKK tour around the second week of June)
I´ll watch out for her...
Have fun,
Novize
To be honest my menory is always bad when it comes to names. I think here name was diana. It wasdefinatly not katerina as I belive she has left world for hte time being. I think diana has shorter slightly darker hair and smaller upper width.
If i remember correctly she was 27 and from moscow.
ciao
Reddog
Red dog,
The lovely slim Russian girl's name is indeed Diana- medium length wavy dark blonde hair, she was one of the passionate highlights of my last trip- 27 from Moscow and an absolutely gorgeous girl who looks like she is 17 rather than 27. A little bit toothy on the BJ, but slowing her down and asking that she use no hands slowly cures that :-) Diana was very wistful for the coming of Pascal in Russia on May 1- she looked at her watch and said- it is Pascal in Moscow right now!!!I gave her 2 music CD's for her holiday.
Ramona Romanza of Romania was another topper this Mayday trip- but I felt like I was sleeping with another man's wife (sort of) so I didn't repeat yet- but I pointed her out to almost every hobbyist I conversed and dined with this trip, and they all sessioned with her as well and we all love her.
I have not seen the new Romanian Julia for two trips now- I fell for her in December, very young light blonde hair with incredible bouncy largish perky tits, limited English, and very animated and service minded room demeanor. Constantly busy. Keep an eye out.
As the uptight and stuck up tourist and summer renter girls descend on my seaside resort home, it is great to read, through the weekly reports of Novize, Chivaz, et al that there are indeed still places where men may reject women and not vice versa. And where men may select the woman of his choice, which is much more fun than rejecting them.
I hope we can all have a healthy reunion in the last week of June to July 4.
Beffen
The seems to have been a change of guard in the Russian corner, with new faces for me. One of them has Asiatic facial features, perhaps she is from Kazakhstan. I got sidetracked and didn't investigate further. Has anyone been with them?
I'm thinking of heading out to FKK World this Thursday. Do any of you know if it's dessoustag? I hope not, it'll be the first day I can freely travel there and have nice weather. Sorry if this question's been asked before, I couldn't find an answer on their webpage, nor in the bit of snooping I did on The Forum.
Thanks
Dessous tag at FKKW is Tues. Thurs is smooth sailing through the ocean of nudity...
Dessous is Tuesday. I will probably be there on Thursday in the afternoon and evening
from last sunday.
I couldn´t make it to the anniversary party on Saturday, but on sunday afternoon I recognized 5 Starlight-Ladies girls at World:
- Ania -> [url]http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_detail.php?id=26[/url]
- Anita -> [url]http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_detail.php?id=23[/url]
- Jola -> [url]http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_detail.php?id=19[/url]
- Monika -> [url]http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_detail.php?id=27[/url]
- Viktoria -> [url]http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_detail.php?id=14[/url]
As far as girls are able to make plans in this business, they want to change from World to Starlight and back every week (Wednesday to Tuesday). I hope they´ll stick to their plans...
I had to great sessions with Romanza again - for god´s sake I´m immune to the marriage desease after a long and painful infection. Elsewise this women could get dangerous for me...
Her stats:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 170cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highest recommendation for great GFE
Between these sessions I celebrated reunion with Jola. She has become much more professional (in a positive meaning) in the last six month - very good GFE, Starlight still seems to be a good "school". Recommended...
Her stats:
name: Jola
hair: artificially blonde, shoulder-length
size: ~ 1,60 m
figure: slim, A/B-breast
origin: Poland
born: 1982
tattoos/piercings: none
service: very good GFE
other: pictures can be found at: [url]http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_detail.php?id=19[/url]
I will be back at World for further inverstigations next sunday.
Have fun,
Novize
Just a friendly announcement, our Ramona is 170cm (w/out shoes). As always, I had great sessions w/ her 2 weeks ago. Don't worry guy, I did not tell her anything about our Forum. I just told her, friend of mine say she is about 165cm, she kindly correctly me, no, is 170cm.
BTW, Ramona is going back home for holiday starting next month (July), so what are we waiting for.
Take care,
World had its two year party and I was there (along with one or two other men). I missed Novize since he was going to sell the car for me when I won it :-)
The stories about last year’s party were apocryphal and apocalyptic so I had been determined to avoid this year’s. I saw no point in queuing for rooms and seeing people have sex in the showers and the corridors (although on reflection that could have been an attraction)
However, as I was missing Cordelia, I arrived about 13.00 – (several hours later than some customers who then stayed until past 2.30 a.m.!!). The temperature was around 34 degrees so sweat and showers was a common feature throughout the day.
There must have been about 100 girls. All girls were supposed to be doing a double shift - more or less. Several regulars were missing. I guess some because their papers had run out, some because they didn’t like the big parties, some because they were on holiday, some because of the hazards of the profession, and so on. The only thing missing was sufficient men. There were quite a lot but even by 5 o clock there were many girls who had not had one room so far as I could see and many who had given up even trying. Most men were expecting a long night so were in no hurry. And there were always the oddities - the man making lascivious faces after a service girl when he had the choice of 100 naked women
Cordelia was having a moderately good day but I managed to catch her and to give her a foot massage (walking around in platforms all day apparently plays havoc with feet) and to have a little alfresco early afternoon sex. She had got ecstatic compliments from her previous customer so was pleased. When I had finished and she went off again she was immediately swept off by another repeat customer. So I had to thiink of something to do…
……. I ate some of the exquisite (!) food. Several men complimented the chefs on the food – I am glad they were happy, since I could in no way fathom the attractions of potato salad out of giant tins and the attractions of sausage are also beyond me
Several girls said this was their first day. One girl who said this was her first day in the business was certainly not telling the truth – I had seen her before. I guess they think that as I am English I don’t know what is going on. So I made sure I didn’t go with her.
I spent the afternoon doing very little, just watching what was going on. There were some girls who were busy and there were some people having sex on the grass from time to time (the coolest place since the House and the cabins were sweltering).
By teatime I was getting a bit desperate. The girls came in all shapes and sizes but really taken as a whole were less attractive than normal (one man said he had never seen so many ugly girls – which was perhaps rather unfair of him). Obviously they had all been pulled in on the expectation of the huge numbers of men. I was even thinking of going with girls who I had on previous visits to World not considered. But I continued waiting – looking to find a girl who seemed likely to be out of the ordinary. After all why pay 50euros for only an average experience – I want at least body and soul for my 50 euros (or at least a glimpse)
Early evening I noticed one girl who in my dazed overheated state I decided was the most attractive working girl I had ever seen. However she was a bit difficult to get at since she and a couple of others were with their male escort on their first day at the club (on this occasion they were telling the truth). But I managed to get her since the ratio of men looking for girls compared to the number of girls available still favoured the men. I think the working girls must generally have been a bit disappointed, but some girls were busy still – Betty was continually working – I think all her regulars had turned up and she was radiant with cheerfulness
Back to my new discovery (how to make fame as a monger…post about a new discovery and world class sensation). The name of this new star in the World firmament (ok, yes, I am taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of myself) is Juliet, Bulgarian, slim, black straight long hair, 21. The session started with what was probably her stock comment – I was her Romeo. To which I said rubbish and that as Romeo and Juliet had both died violently I wanted nothing to do with them. I had a very enjoyable hour with her conversing in broken English, French and German (and Bulgarian – I now know two nice Bulgarian phrases). As always I will not give any personal details but will just say that she seemed to enjoy sex and we were able to pass the rest of the time conversing. Unusually for a first time with a girl I extended the time to one hour. And later in the evening tried to find time for another session but this did not work out.
It was getting quite crowded but nothing like expected. I was trying to get to Cordelia but by now several more of her regulars had arrived and she was trying to find them again in the darkness and crowd. With little success
Around 11.15 Cordelia emerged from a room so I grabbed her. But this is where the unexpected happened. There was nobody going to rooms between 11.00 and well past 1.00. This was because of a programme of fireworks (which were really very good) Samba dancing and the raffle for the car. This all took two hours and all the men were waiting for the prizes to be won. It was really boring – especially as about 10 tickets had to be called for some of the prizes since the ticket owners were not there on the night. At about 1.00 the prizegiving was finished and one happy man now owns the car. The indoor food was then opened and disappeared within 30 minutes as everybody who had been putting off eating and having sex for hours suddenly found they needed to eat first. The men then started going to rooms with girls in larger numbers as they were running out of time to spend their 50Euros, By this time I had had enough and left
The prizes were given out by Sybille Rauch and Tina Angel, two very large breasted German pornstars who have been around since I was in short trousers (or so it seems). They had been around most of the day. To my astonishment they were both much better looking in real life than in films. And they both seemed very relaxed and friendly to everybody. They were looked after by the World staff and the boss. One weird thing was that the men could queue and go to a private room to feel the breasts of the pornstars – about 15 men did.
World worked really hard on the party but didn’t get it quite right. For example, there had been a whole evening of stripping, hosted by a transvestite (I thought I had escaped such things by avoiding bi-night at Beverly). I like to know that my women are really women – why would customers at World want a man dressed up as a woman? Overall the shows were not a help to a good night - they made the main room useless for picking up girls and as the evening wore on the audience was mainly the girls who were waiting for the show to finish so the men would return (most men left the room after the first few shows) lost interest in doing anything,. In addition the show was surpassed by some showing off by a couple of girls pretending lesbian sex, one of whom danced better than all the professionals. Very sexy.
The shows gave me food for thought - the samba dancers were not attractive but some men said they were unbelievably goodlooking. It could be a question of taste but I think it was a question of the image. Our perception of a girl is perhaps more a reaction to an image, a fantasy than to a reality. We buy the Optikfick and not the genuine experience in a room perhaps?
World really tried its best to put on a good party. The presence of Cordelia and Juliet made it a memorable day. Every day at World is unpredictable:it's still the club where it's easiest to relax for a long day - and large enough to get right away in to the trees and quiet. So I'll be back
I would have been happy to sell the car for you - you could have earned 5 Romanians with it at least. And I could have had much fun with my 20% commission... ;)
Unfortunately I had to do prepare for a meeting that was scheduled for monday at short hand.
I didn´t recognize your Juliet on sunday, but there were many new girls. But I´ll keep my eyes open. I hope I will still have a chance to meet her, although a recommendation written by you will be a guarantee for her to World-stardom. :)
I´m glad you plan to come back - and I hope we can meet then.
Have fun,
Novize
Thank you Novize.We were sorry to miss you. We were even worried at what problem could have stopped you winning your car
I wish I could give a better description of Juliet. She was about 1.60+ tall, quite full lips, black eyebrows, very good slim but curvy figure. She was wearing white high heels (no platforms). But of course it is always possible she is more like a shooting star (here today gone tomorow)than a fixed one.
I'll be back on 1st, 3rd and 4th July
I´ll try to get some information on sunday.
See you at World on sunday, July 3rd.
Have fun,
Novize
[QUOTE=Potl]Just a friendly announcement, our Ramona is 170cm (w/out shoes). As always, I had great sessions w/ her 2 weeks ago. Don't worry guy, I did not tell her anything about our Forum. I just told her, friend of mine say she is about 165cm, she kindly correctly me, no, is 170cm.
BTW, Ramona is going back home for holiday starting next month (July), so what are we waiting for.
Take care,[/QUOTE]
Thanks Potl. I will correct that with the next report. But I can hardly believe it. With shoes she´s slightly taller than I am (182 cm) and she had told me that her shoes have 20 cm-heels. Without shoes she hardly reaches my chin.
I might have to take a tape measure with me next time... ;)
Have fun,
Novize
Hello Shiatsu,
Many thanks for that detailed and insightful account of the 2 year anniversary party at World- much appreciated by one who was stuck in the land of "Look Don't Touch" this past weekend. Did you see our new enhanced spider girl Anka?
I'm looking forward to seeing you (and Cordelia) on the 1st and 3rd of July, and you too Novize. Let's hope the Starlight girls reunion coincides with ours.
Beffen
Novize,
I think you will agree w/ me, we are careless how tall Ramona is, as long as she is w/ us (one at time).
However, I joked w/ her last time, I said, you (Ramona) are still glowing, must drinking lots of "milk". :))
Until next time.
Shiatsu,
It´s always a great plesasure to read your longer reports like the recent one about World. (Maybe you should do the writing professionally?)
It brings memories back of a georgeous Cuban girl who I met there last year. In one of the wooden cabins I asked her why she was so eager to offer anal sex. She had that great story: When she was in her mid teens her boyfriend in Cuba always wanted to do anal because he told her that she won´t get pregnant.
I liked that. I didn´t had a chance to go back to World in a year.
Frankfurter - thank you for the compliment. I had been concerned it was boringly long. Have a good time onyour next German visit
Beffen - yes Anka was there. I do not think she was having a very good time. For every girl it varies from day to day. She was one of those who spent much time in the main room while the shows were going on. I noticed however that she seemed to be getting going from about 1.30. See you in July
Apart from the party day I went on the Thursday two days before. The weather was very hot so I had a chance to do a little sunbathing and reading on the grass, World was full of girls – many being brought in for the Party I guess.
If your idea of a good time is to spend a day in the open air with 70 naked women (and many asorted but towelled men) then World is probably going to suit you. The ratio of women to men is higher than any other club. The World concept seems to be working well – with the opening of one in Ibiza I expect the good news to spread beyond Germany, The only problem is the shortage of clients – it needs a lot of men to top up the bank accounts of 70 girls. Perhaps the signs of recovery in the German economy might prove to be genuine.
However I did not fancy any of the girls (I do realise that I am extremely fussy!! – it’s just as well the girls aren’t fussy). Despite my lack of interest, my magnetic personality and rippling muscles attracted attention. I drifted off into a vague half-awakeness to be aroused by a warm feeling on top of me. She was called Priscilla (from Rumania). My resistance was low, and reduced evenmore by the feel of huge breasts in my face. She had an attractive face and smile, and her hands were wandering down between my legs. At which point I gave in.
We walked off to find a cabin and then endured an unwanted sauna (it was a very hot day). The highlight was being disturbed by a sensible girl laughing and coming in to get a tissue. She had been sensible and worked on the grass. Priscilla was fine – but we did not click and she did not seem to be exactly desperate for sex. No complaints from me – I just want total commitment (or at least the appearance of it). Unreasonable – no. I work with clients in my own job and I expect to give each client 100% commitment in each session – 95% is no good. Oh, I forgot to say, I paid Priscilla 50E. She timed the session to 25 minutes, so marginal shortchanging
I saw Priscilla on party day. We said hi but I did not go with her. She was working with three others of similar buiild – short, and large breasts. Party day looked like slim pickings for her as for many other girls
And that was my lot (apart from one session with Cordelia)
Shiatsu,
You're an absolute wealth of information. My friend and I are going to makea return visit to Germany in early October. We hope to see you and other WSG members there. But tell me more about this FKK that will be opening up in Ibiza. This sounds very intriguing.
Wry cooter
Thanks Wry. Nice to hear from you again. Actually I know very little. I just heard that several of the girls were keen on working there, and also World was giving out some info about it. To my shame I didn't bother reading the detail - I will lose any Boy Scout explorer credentials I ever had.
Ibiza might sound fun for the girls but I wonder if the high turnover of guests will make the atmosphere of German FKKs hard to replicate. It is the fact that the men return to World time after time which makes it work and gives both the girls and the men a better time (since both know neither the customers or workers can easily be ripped off). The girls who do not last at World are usually the ones who do not realise the difference between World and a RLD.
Maybe see you in Ocober
Hi mate,
Quick question?can you tell how much will cost me 1 hour with a sweet lady?
Thanks and take care.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Shiatsu]Beffen - yes Anka was there. I do not think she was having a very good time. For every girl it varies from day to day. She was one of those who spent much time in the main room while the shows were going on. I noticed however that she seemed to be getting going from about 1.30. See you in July[/QUOTE]
Novize posted this in the Spanish section
[QUOTE=Novize]When visiting FKK-World in Germany last week, I faound an ad for the newly opened "Pure Platinum". Perhaps someone wants to give it a try:
[url]www.pureplatinum-ibiza.com[/url]
Have fun,
Novize[/QUOTE]
The site doesnt give any info about the what services the girls provide, infact it gives the impression that it is just a lapdance joint.
For instance they advertise a fully nude table dance for 35 euro. That doesnt imply to me that for another 15 euro, a girl is going to give you a 1/2 hour of sex. I emailed them yesterday inquiring about the girls services etc and I am still waiting for their reply.
Just tried ringing them, but it rang out? Id like the idea of spending a week in Ibiza and spending 3 or 4 days in this place. (assuming its similar to an FKK)
Mouasso - One hour is 100E plus any extras (50 for CIM, 50 or more for anal). There's no guarantee that the lady will be sweet - that's a question of luck and judgement. There are many good providers at World, - some of them have been posted about recently. Usually a girl who has been there more than a few weeks is more likely to be sweet - but this is a very broad generalisation. Watch and see which girls come out of the rooms looking friendly with the men they have just been with
this is a chain of strip joints. They are in the USA and there is one in frankfurt i think this is the website. [url]http://www.pureplatinum.org/ppffm/index.html[/url]
that said i am not sure if they are all connected with the clubs int he usa.
here is a link that makes it look as though the fkk worlds are connected to them though. anyway there are others that might know more.
rd
I know the Pure Platinum clubs in So. Florida (my neck of he woods) -strip clubs with lap dances, table dances, friction dances - definitely no FS- that's a big no-no in the federal sex penitentiary. If you're very lucky and it's dark and the closed circuit cameras can't see into your corner you may cop a feel, but that's it and it will cost you.
I was at the P.P. club in FFM 2 years ago, and it' sthe same story. Fail to see the connection to World, FKK, etc. Why is FKK World promoting these 2 clubs?
Shiatsu,
Great report as always. Juliet sound like a real find. I was in NRW for 3 nights last week and when I have the chance I'll post some reports. H & K 4 Cordelia.
Pure Platinum Ibiza has a "Pool Party" from 11 a.m. to midnight. You pay 60,- € entrance fee for that. I doubt that the girls participating in such a party just want to swim... ;)
From midnight till 6 a.m. it´s a table dance club, but maybe some of the "Party girls" are still there...
But I have to admit, it´s just a guess.
Have fun,
Novize
Another sunday evening at World. Iarrived at 8 p.m. showered, shaved and took a look around. At this time the place was quiet lively, but the situation changed around 10 p.m., when many men and the girl´s dayshift disappeared.
Good news for all fans of Andrea, Cz - she´s back. And bad news - she´s still (nearly) always occupied...
But I didn´t care. I had to look for - surprise, surprise - Romanza. Since I learned that she´s not 1.65 m tall but 1,70 m, I like to go with her even more. Who would refuse to get a little more of her? ;)
Again the session was the best GFE money can buy. Just great.
Her stats:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 170 cm without
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highest recommendation for great GFE
Ramona plans to go on vacation on Juli, 21st for approx. 6 weeks.
Some time after this session, when I knew Ramona in good hands, I went downstairs for my ususal exercise in extreme relaxing. After having woken up, I walked around and looked for my next victim. The place had run out of men in the meantime, so I had nearly all girls available - except for Andrea, of course. I could have spent lots of time with Ramona, but was willing to try someone new. So I placed myself in one of the couches, looking after the girls and tryinfg to find out who was in a "willing mood" despite of the borng situation (for the girls, not for me. I like to watch the scenery). In the end, I ran into Claudia from Romania. I had been looking after this girl for quiet a long time, but never tried to approach her. She has this classical "rip-off-look", but now I have to addmit that this is just outwardly. She speaks a bit of english and german and we managed to have a nice chat before going for a room.
I´m not an easy client for women who share a room with me for the first time - I don´t tell tell them, what I like, I let them find out. She passed the test with distinction and thus earned herself an explicit recommendation from my side. We practiced GFE (at 3 a.m. I was too tired for a sportive engagement), but I think she can also be very passionate. I will repeat surely.
Her stats:
name: Claudia
origin: Romania/Spain
born: ~ 1981
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: pierced bellybutton, tattoo below neck
other: recommended for GFE
It was closing time. I left the place satisfied, being sure I will come back.
But that will be another story...
Have fun,
Novize
Last visit, I got a receipt from Palace 65 Euro for Dinner. On the receipt, it indicated from Dagmar Lerch. What is meaning of "Dagmar Lerch"? I got a similar receipt from World, it indicated "Kaunzberg, Gastronomie GmbH". What that mean? I wonder if I could submit the receipts to my company for reimbursment as the meal receipt? Anyone know German, please advise. Does any of those mean a nude club, or a brothel?
Thanks!
what is dessous day?
[quote=mind snatcher]hi tosc, i also used to avoid the dessous day, having had bad experiences a couple of years ago (higher average age, big tummies concealed, and simply not so much of a turn-on when the girls aren't as nature intended). however, i was at bhh last week and it had to be thursday! but i was really pleasantly surprised. half the girls seemed to ignore the dessous code, and most of the others were very lightly draped in mini sashes and the like. i had a really good time and as long as it is optional as it seems to be these days, it's surely not going to be a problem. or are they stricter at fkkw??[/quote]
is, when the girls run around more or less sexily dressed in lingerie.
On other days the girls don´t wear more than a shoes and a belt.
Have fun,
Novize
Thanks, novize. What day of the week is it. Also. I'm trying to find directions, on the board, to the club from Frankfurt. Can you point me in the right direction. Thanks
this board has a search function... ;)
Take a look here:
[url]http://www.*************.info/forum/showpost.php?p=361193&postcount=747[/url]
and here:
[url]http://www.*************.info/forum/showpost.php?p=339715&postcount=535[/url]
You can use Frankfurt Hbf. (=main station) as starting point at bahn.de.
I hope, that helps.
Have fun,
Novize
All for Bb,
You are safe with those receipts. The first one, about Dagmar Lerch: Dagmar is a female name in German. The other one --and I am surprised you could not deduce this yourself, assuming you are a native speaker of a European language-- designates some sort of business dealing with the cooking of food, i.e. a restaruant or catering service. Live dangerous, and get that money back!
Ortos
Here is the reply to the email I sent them on Saturday :
"Hi,
thanks for your email request.
First of all: There are girls in the club which provide sex.
As they are also guests in our club, we can’t tell anything about the cost
s and the practise, because it depends from one girl to another and it is
their own think, only!
So you see its not similar to an FKK club, because we are at first a bar,
a restaurant and a table-dance club (including sex!).
Also the number of girls depents between 30 and 70.
Our club is owned by a spanish company called Dehado S.L. . There are cont
acts to the FKK-World in germany, but its a different ownership.
There are a lot of cheap hotels on Ibiza and as Ibiza ist not very big, ne
arly every place on the island is near to the PURE PLATINUM IBIZA.
We hope we could help you and see you soon at the PURE PLATINUM IBIZA.
Yours
PURE PLATINUM IBIZA
Service-Team
www.PurePlatinum-Ibiza.com"
Well now, that sounds very interesting. I have always wanted to go to Ibiza but could never find anything about mongering possibilities there. As a middle aged horndog, I would not want to hang at those topless beaches all day and not have an outlet at night. Let's hope the failure of the management to disclose the prices for full service does not indicate astronomical prices. Definately bears investigation.
Beffen
you would get the same information about the girls´ pricing when asking at FKK-World. But there is a pricing structure at Wurld anyway. I think it will be the same thing in Ibiza.
Have fun,
Novize
About this Ibiza thing:
I may be mistaken, but wasn't the owner of Atlantis supposed to have fled to Ibiza after his Altenstadt FKK club was raided? I don't suppose there is a connection here is there?
of Atlantis, who had flewn to Ibiza after the raid in spring 2004, had been cought by the spanish police last fall and was sentenced to 6 or 7 years imprisonment about a month ago.
I don´t think he´s involved in the Pure Platinum Ibiza.
I would guess that the owners/managers of PPI and FKK-World belong to the same Biking Club.
Have fun,
Novize
Novize,
There has to be no doubt. You are are the World's number 1 FKK expert.
"We are not worthy!!"
F
We graciously recieve your obedient salutes... ;)
But who the hell told you that:
[QUOTE=Fred Mercury]"We are not worthy!!"[/QUOTE] ?
I hope it wasn´t your credit grantor... :D
Have fun,
Novize
P.S.: I know it´s a long way from Ibiza to Pohlheim, but I think we should try to get back there anyhow... ;)
"We are not worthy!!" is a line from the movie Waynes World.
[QUOTE=Fred Mercury]"We are not worthy!!" is a line from the movie Waynes World.[/QUOTE]
Another movie I didn´t watch - at World they always show a different sort of movies...
Have fun,
Novize
[QUOTE=Novize]Another movie I didn´t watch - at World they always show a different sort of movies...
Have fun,
Novize[/QUOTE]It is an act of reverence. The line is delivered while bowing with outstretched arms.
[QUOTE=FKK Lover]It is an act of reverence. The line is delivered while bowing with outstretched arms.[/QUOTE]
Thanks.
But one shouldn´t say that to me. I always feel very uncomfortable with things like that... :o :o :o
Hope I will never have to hear that from one of the club-girls. ;)
Have fun,
Novize
[QUOTE=Novize]Thanks.
But one shouldn´t say that to me. I always feel very uncomfortable with things like that... :o :o :o
Hope I will never have to hear that from one of the club-girls. ;)
Have fun,
Novize[/QUOTE]
Hey Novize,
You and I both know that the FKK ladies only want you for your candy ;-)
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hi Dedalus,
But
"They are not worthy!" :D :D :D
Have fun,
Novize
Hey guys,
We're arrive Frankfurt on June 23rd. I've never been to Germany so I'm looking forward to it.
I've been reading some stuff and I think we'll def drop by one of these FKK places. I think we only have a couple of days so want to arrange stuff ahead of time. Maybe will make a trip over to Berlin on the way back.
Any suggestions on the best spots to hit? The best places to stay?
Thanks!
Hello,
I am planning to go to the world for two days and I am looking for an Hotel around.
Can you please give me some hotel name?
Thanks a lot,
Ppierluigi2000
Zum Grunen Baum is about 1.5 km away (walking distance) in Pohlheim and is very cheap. I have not stayed there - it is old-fashioned which could be good or bad!. I know one girl from the club has stayed there and said it is ok. Details about this were posted a few months ago on this thread (by Novize)
"Zum Grünen Baum
Schiffenbergstr. 5
Garbenteich
06404/ 7152
very old-fashioned, not comfortable, but with 26,- €/night incl. breakfast very cheap".
The Etap is about 15 minutes drive away. Modern, clean, functional, pleasant staff, English spoken. 32E a night. Good value. Search on the Etap website under Giessen. Next to two huge sex shops in a retail/business area
ETAP Linden
Gewerbegebiet Luckebachtal
Gottlieb-Daimler Str. 8
35440 Linden
Tel: (+49) 06403/ 75 37 3
Steinsgarten Best Western in Giessen - upwards from 70E for. a single. Nice hotel 10 minutes drive away. I normally stay there. And have bumped into other mongers when there with Cordelia at breakfast
Gasthaus Häuser
Linden-Leihgestern
Tel. 06403/ 69111
Altes Eishaus had also been liked by one or two
members
Go to [url]www.hrs,de[/url] for details of more hotels.
[url]http://www.*************.info/forum/showthread.php?p=350846&highlight=hotel+world#post350846[/url]
Just do a search for Hotel and FKK world and then in the Germany FKK section.
The best resource is hrs.de and then put in the World address. Pick a hotel with pictures, especially of the room.
I called Zum Grunen Baum a few weeks ago and the manager said that they only have vacancies at the weekend and that the place is normally full during the week with workers from the neighbouring businesses, and that it isnt possible to make a reservation for mid week cos they are always full! Anyone planning to go at the weekend should have no problems staying in this hotel
I plan to visit World sometime in July but it will be between mon-fri, so looks like I wont be staying in this hotel, which is a pity cos now i will have to add the expense of taxis to and from world to my trip.
I might go for 2 days and get a room in World for 100 euro per night, but those rooms are only available from 1 am till 11 am next day. But I suppose its an ok deal, cos even if I was staying in a neighbouring hotel I would spend the max time in World anyway.
I would not recommend to stay at World over night, unless you want to be busy with a girl.
You´ll be sisturbed by the noise from guys and girls until 4 a.m. and from the cleaning ladies afterwards.
Have fun,
Novize
Fred
If you're thinking of 100 euro to cover hotel and travel to and from FKKW then to keep costs down you might consider using a bus from Giessen to get to World - good service and costs about 2 euros, saving 17 euros compared to taxi. The bus stop is about 10 minutes walk from FKKW - ok in the summer. The return buses stop around 10.30 so taxi may be the only option for you.
Cordelia confirms Novize's comment that early morning noises may disturb you - cleaning ladies are one thing but heavy duty brush cutters at 7.30 a.m. are a regular bonus at FKKW, to say nothing of huge crows trying to get in (ok that was not likely to be repeated)
Same procedure as last sunday, but in different order.
On early sunday afternoon, the club was very quiet. The girls must have earnes too much on Fred´s first day there... ;)
After the nightshift´s arrival, the place became more lively in the late afternoon.
Ramona was busy, so I took the old alcohilc´s wisdom to heart: start with what (here: whom) you ended up the (club)night before...
So, it was Claudia´s turn again. We watched the first Basketball-playoff for some minutes (I love to tease women... ;) ) before we headed towards one of the playing fields beneath the inside pool. After some intense DFK, Claudia gave a great presentation of her french skills, which I enjoyed nearly to completion. When I warned her it could get somewhat wet in a few seconds she withdrew her head and brought things to an end manually.
I would have spent the 50 € extra, but I really give her credit for not negotiating or even just going for the extra without asking. A nice GFE and her fair behaviour earned her a recommendation from my side and a place in my regular girls´ list (and, of course, 50,- €)
Her stats:
name: Claudia
origin: Romania/Spain
born: ~ 1981
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, feminine, B-breast
height: 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: pierced bellybutton, tattoo below neck
other: recommended for GFE
Watched the F1-GP after that and joined the waiting queue for Romanza subsequently.
I had two very nice sessions with her in the late evening/early morning, during which she successfully defended her title as "Queen of GFE".
The stats:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, feminine, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 170 cm without
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highest recommendation for great GFE
Have fun,
Novize
Pity these goddam Hells angels wouldnt build a few proper hotel rooms onto the side of World!! also an Internet cafe and possibly a Chinese Restaurant, and then I would be set !!
would be nice to have, but I think we would have big problems to get the girls away from the terminals... ;)
Have fun,
Novize
You may also stay at Park hotel. Its very convenient for going to World as its on the way from Giessen train station, just across the park from where you turn right for Pohlheim. Its a family run establishment, breakfast is included.
Sorry don't have phone # or address.
I wish they'd have a better selection of good porn. I would love to be getting some hot couch action from a Hungarian babe as I'm watching Wanda Curtis and Silvia Saint making out around some lucky bum's knob.
Hi Novize,
Never noticed this about your description of the ladies before but in "figure:" I think that the descriptive word that you're looking for is "feminine." We all assume that you're going to the room with a female! ;)
Just trying to help.
Go Kimi!
FKKL
Is this the same beautiful Claudia who also works at PHG? I saw her back in February and had a great time with her. She is Romanian/Argentian.
Big laugh!!! :)
You´re right...
Fan,
no, FKKW-Claudia is NOT PHG-Claudia.
Have fun,
Novize
Boys,
I think we all agree that the highlight of a mongering experience is finding a new gem that you did not know existed. This happened to me yesterday. Here is the story.
I went to World at 7 pm. Since I had rented a big car, I did not even make an attempt at going to Parking lot 2, the one closest to the entrance, but went to lot 1 right away. Lot 1 was almost full, too. Good sign! World is doing well. I went to the entrance, and on the walkway some guy asked me to wait with him until a third guy arrives, to get the 3-for-2 discount. I did not want to, but then another car arrived, and he insisted. Well, OK, it seemed important to him, and I did not want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] him off. But still, the 20 euro savings are really only less than a 10% effect, so who cares.
There were about 40 girls on duty, some of them my longtime favorites like Andrea and Viagra. I took my customary stroll across the facility to gauge the talent present. Then I went back to the bar in the wintergarten. A copy of girls approached me, and since I am never too careful where I blow my first load (no chemistry needed, if you know what I mean ;-) ), I was tempted.
But then I looked over my shoulder and saw a gorgeous blond standing just three feet away from me at the bar. I excused myself and went over to Jana, from Slovakia. Her hair is almost shoulder-long, and she had put it up with some kind of clip. Pamela Anderson type lips, natural breasts, 25 years, about 1,60 m in my estimate. Yeah! If nothing else, this would be a trophy fuck.
But boy was I wrong! Right from the get-go I knew we had something special, just by the way she touched me. Often the girls just grab your dick as the first move. While this can be fun to the newbie, it should serve as a warning signal to the expert. Anyway, we are kissing at the bar, and she suggested to go somewhere where we could sit down and get to know each other. Another good sign: she did not suggest to go to a room right away. Kino it was. We must have spend 45 minutes there and really took our time. Not only did she welcome DATY, she invited it. And she came right there on the sofa, guiding my fingers and tongue where she needed it - another REALLY good sign in my book :-).
OK, then we went to a room, and since this was my first pop, I knew I was not going to last more than a few minutes. Never mind, though, a great experience. The day was off to a tremendous start.
It was warm outside, and they had the grill going. I had a burger. It was so-so, but I did not really come for the food. Sat down on one of their wooden benches and watch the Argentina soccer game for a while, sitting next to some gorgeous naked girls, having a beer and a burger. If there is a heaven, I am hoping it will be like this.
OK, recharging was done; it was 8:30, still another half hour before the Germany-Australia soccer game. I filled it with Jenny, from the Check Republic (I think). She is tall very thin, small breasts, pretty eyes, shoulder-length curly hair. She was very competent, but we did not have the right chemistry. By all measures is was a pretty good encounter with a very good-looking lady, but after Jana it did not measure up. I was done just after 9 and got another quick shower and then watched some the first half of the game outdoors with a guy from the US, had a brat, another beer. Then on to a girl who’s name I forgot. She has reddish brown hair, is tall, and has a very nicely proportioned body. Here lace stockings turned me on. Good pop, but again not like Jana.
Then I watched the last 15 minutes of the game indoors on the screen across the cocktails and champagne bar. I went upstairs to the wintergarten and saw Jana again. I figured that I needed to make sure that my first experience was reproducible. So I went over to her, and we started out just the way that we had done earlier. After another 45 minutes in the kino, we went to a room again. She says she likes my eyes and my “Schwanz”; I like everything about her. Now I have to coin a new term GFPSE: “girl friend porn star experience”. It was the best of both worlds, even better than my best experiences with Eva and Andrea, who move down to number two and three on my all time list :-). Jana just blew my mind.
Since this was number 4 of the day, it was hard to complete for me. It took over an hour of hard work. We were both very sweaty, and I must admit that I spent the last 15 minutes on my back and let her do all the work. Jana never gave up and said that all this hard work for good for the condition of the heart. Well, who am I to argue with her when she goes through her exercise routine. ;-) :-) ;-) I was totally wiped out at the end, and we were just lying there for a while after the fact and enjoyed the memory of the great experience.
I was too sweaty to take a shower right away; so I got another beer, put my towel down on one of the leather sofas and just lay there. Then Andrea cam over, smiled at me, said she was happy that I had a great time with Jana, and that Jana had told her that she had worn me out. I had not known that the two are best friends. Maybe next time I try a threesome with these two rockets! I am already drooling over the thought of this. But in any case, this proves that the girls also talk about us, just like we talk about them.
Happy mongering
euro
for the great report!
My friends and I were talking about Jana on sunday. She is quiet new at World and we all were not sure if she´s a top or a flop. Now at least I know... ;)
The tall woman with the reddish brown hair could have been Olga, who just came back from vacation last week.
Have fun,
Novize
The Germany-Australia soccer game??? Sorry mate, but Australia's sport is rugby.
This is a report of my first visit at FKK World and which opened the pleasures of the FKK world to me. I am sorry that I do not remember the names of all the girls that I had a session with I had read about the FKK World in this forum and was itching to visit the place. I had also visited the website of FKK World and ascertained the route to reach the place.. I had visited FKK Palace earlier but due to time restrictions, it was not a very successful. I drove down to FKK World in the evening of a Sunday. It was difficult finding the place after reaching Pohlheim/Garbenteich. However, since it was not yet dark, it was not as bad as the earlier drive that I had in the streets of Frankfurt searching for FKK Palace. Spent some time driving around and was able to locate the place finally. I parked at the Parking Lot 1 which is away from the main entrance. Even this parking lot was quite full.
Was greeted at the entrance by the reception staff and explained the process and given the hand band with the locker keys. Took a shower and entered the place. It is a really huge place with a huge hall. The dinner was laid out and I took some salad and dessert. The spread out seemed to be good and there were quite a few people having food.
After the food spent time inspecting and roaming around the place. As has been already been explained it has a main hall with a pole in the center for dancing etc. There are 4 large videos placed in the center with the sofas arranged at each corner. The bar is near the entrance of the hall. On the left side as we enter the hall is the dining space. The Kino is to the side of the bar and there are a couple of sofas in the Kino. There are also a couple of rooms adjoining the Kino. The other side of the hall has the various rooms into which one can retire with the girls. The bottom area consists the massage area as well as the solarium. It was like being in heaven, surrounded by so many beauties walking around naked in the hall. It was a difficult choice. There was a German girl with huge tits who was relaxing on the sofa. There was this Czech girl who was sitting beside her on the arm of the sofa. The Czech beauty, a blond around 5’4” height, medium build caught my attention and started a conversation. I do not remember her name exactly now, it was Ivana or something like that. After preliminaries, we decided to sit in the Kino and man was she wild enough. She was like a tigress attacking me immediately with a DFK. I was also aroused and we had a lot of foreplay and then later on moved to the room where a BBBJ was followed by a round of excellent FS. It was a very good introduction and was indication of the things to come and I really liked it.
After the session with the Czech girl relaxed around a bit and then started a conversation with the German girl with huge tits. She was around 5’ 6” tall, with the biggest tits imaginable, well built with a freckled face. She had been attracting some attention from a regular and was trying to resist him. I started a conversation with her and she asked me if I was strong enough for another round. I agreed and then we moved again to the Kino where we had a foreplay with DFK and fondling each other. The girl said that she was only 24 yrs old, but looked a bit more than her age. Moved in to the room and had a round of BBBJ with FS. It was a very good session again with her and I was already in seventh heaven by then. After the session with me and freshening up, she again moved back into the same sofa relaxing.
I then spent the next few hours tyring to recoup myself after the assault by the two beauties. I spotted a lot of Romanan beauties and had been thinking of picking them up next. Picked up a tall Romanian beauty with black hair and medium build. I do not remember her name. But the service with her was average and maybe due to the earlier assault by the beauties was not able to come with the lady.
Finally after midnight, before leaving picked out another young Romanian girl Larissa. She is around 5’2” with a nice figure, black hair in a pony tail. Had a nice session with her with DFK, BBBJ and FS. She wanted me the next time to start out with her first.
This was my first pleasurable experience in an FKK and it was really like being in heaven. I think the FKK’s in Germany are the best place for relaxing and spending some nice time. Would definitely recommend FKK World for all those who can drive around in Germany.
Can someone please tell me ASAP which day is better for World? Choosing from Monday or Tuesday.
Erogenous - Tuesday is dessous day.Both days are fairly quiet - not a lot of customers
There is no way that anyone can ever say which day is best. Every day is different since human beings are involved - it depends on who is having a day off, who had a row with her flatmate, the weather, the number of men, whether there was a party a day before, and whether or not the customers are respectful or plonkers - and so on.
It's not like buying a standard product off the shelf. So don't worry about which day is best - just go and make your own good day by having a good attitude. Monday and Tuesdays are both likely to be very laid back days.Good luck
Joyboy and Euro 100 - by the way - nice reports. Thanks
Visited FKK World in the first week of May. I had only another week in Germany before returning back to UAE and decided to make the most of it. Driving around this time was much simpler,but still had to spend some time, but not much as the earlier ocassion. Entered the club by noon on a Sunday. and found that the number of girls were quite less. There were around 15/20 girls with a few Africans, some south Americans and around 6/8 europeans. Found a group of 3 girls who were together. One of them was a blonde with a round face. The girls were not aggressive and were waiting for the men to take the intitative and make the move.
Had some lunch which was spread out and then relaxed around near the pool. Had the first session with one of the african girls who nearly forced herself on me. It was a satisfactory session and I do not remember much about it now.
Spent some time later on in the Jacuzzi downstairs and then spent time relaxing by the poolside. Made some visits back to the groundfloor to check up on talent, but was not in mood for any immediate action. Saw that one blonde German girl with huge boobs keeping herself quite busy. Marked her out for a session, but found that she was continuously busy. After spending quite some time relaxing, decided to have one more session and approached the girl with round face. She did not know English, but decided to go with her still as … does not need any language. Learnt her name was Julia and that she was from Russia. Had a great session with excellent DFK, BBBJ in the sex kino and FS in the room near the kino.
After the session spent some time relaxing and also taking some dessert which was still available. Found that a few girls had joined in. Found a couple of girls interesting. While relaxing in the sofa a few girls came and sat near me, but none of them approached me. Even though one of the girls was interesting with a nice figure, found that she was not paying attention. He colleague a tall blond girl with a porn star look also looked interested and was repeatedly smiling at me. I started a small conversation with her. Her name was Monica and she was 22 yrs old from Poland. She was only a few days old at the World. Decided to go for a session with her. Found her very attractive and spent some time in the Kino with DFK and foreplay. Later on moved into the room for final action. It was a nice session with her.
After the sessions with the above girls it was almost in the evening and the new contingent of girls started arriving in hordes as well as other male guests also. Picked up a Romaninan beauty Larissa with whom I had gone during my earlier visit. Spent quite some time having a conversation with her. Then went to one of the rooms and had another session with her which was very satisfying.
After the session with Larissa, spent the time relaxing and was approached by the blonde bombshell about whom I had mentioned earlier. Got into a conversation with her. Her name was Karina, she was a German. She was almost 5’6” in height with huge breasts, blond hair, grey eyes and a round face. Found that she hailed from the same place as that I was staying in Germany and we were almost neighbours. She said that she was there at World only for a couple of days and that she was going to Ibiza for business after that. Had a very good session with her which included BBBJ and FS. She is one girl who was great and even her thought makes me come now.
It was time for me to return as I had a long drive back home from FKK World. Since this was going to be my last visit to FKK before I returned to UAE, made the most of the opportunity and as was the case with my first experience, it was again an heavenly experience. Definitely will make a visit to FKKW during my next visit to Germany and post reports of the same.
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]The Germany-Australia soccer game??? Sorry mate, but Australia's sport is rugby.[/QUOTE]
Well, what can I say? The Aussies only lost 4 goal to 3 to the host Germans; just yesterday they lost 2 goals to 1 to the Argentinian squad, the South American champ. So your mates are doing quite alright for themselves. The have one more game against the African champ, Tunesia.
Sorry for the detour. This site is about popping, I know. I am planning my next trip to World for the 29th. I am drooling already.
euro
[QUOTE=Novize]My friends and I were talking about Jana on sunday. She is quiet new at World and we all were not sure if she´s a top or a flop. Now at least I know... ;)[/QUOTE]
Yes, she is quite new; I had not seen her before. But in my eyes she is quite a looker. So I would have thrown 50 bucks her way in any case. I am just glad she turned out special. She'll get two more sessions when I return on the 29th.
[QUOTE=Novize]The tall woman with the reddish brown hair could have been Olga, who just came back from vacation last week.[/QUOTE]
Yep, now that you say it. Olga it was. She is also worth a repeat. I know, it's a small thing, but these stocking sreally turned me one. It was like doing the girl drawing on the Playboy jokes page of olden times.
euro
I'm so envious! Does anyone know of any cheap flights from the US?
But Australia lost to Bangladesch in Cricket. That is the most embarassing thing to happen to that country in sports in the last 50 years!
You can try priceline.com for cheap flights, I used to use them to get cheap airfare to Europe when I lived in the US.
Visited World last weekend (Friday night, Saturday, Sunday - short). Here are some of the highs and lows:
Highs:
a) Andrea never dissapoints. She should be conducting workshops to sex providors
b) Nice experience with Laura from "Jamaica"
c) Very good encounter with newbie Maria from Romania. 155cm, Blond (black -landing strip), very cute smile, nice B/C cup breasts. Took a while to get her to relax. Will most definetly repeat
d) Great weather and good food, grill in the garden
e) Nice show going on during the daytime of Ibiza party
f) Ok session with Rakula from Romania
g) Nice session with Claudia from Romania/Spain
h) Nice session with Aida from Romania. Blond, flexible, she did a nice little number on the pole/stage
i) Sundays are great at World IMHO
Lows:
a) Bad session with newbie Vanessa from Romania. Total amateaur. Will not last long unless she is a really fast learner. Probably the clumsiest sex I've ever had trying to ride me cowgirl with her high heels on
b) Ibiza party night. Not for me. Witnessed too many encounters of obnoxious behaviour by some guests. Did not like if. Left early
c) Heard too many stories of abuse by Turks. Some of them pretty hard to believe
d) Some of the dark girls at World are becoming way to pushy
e) Not able to spot Novize's UGFE, Ramona. I must not be too shy to ask around next time
f) Had to leave too early on Sunday due to other engagements
All in all pretty good though.
Chivaz
d) Some of the dark girls at World are becoming way to pushy
Agreed. This was an absolute problem for me on my first time at World recently. Full details to come soon.
e) Not able to spot Novize's UGFE, Ramona. I must not be too shy to ask around next time
I was with her (twice). Top girl, but be gentle, her nipples are a no-go zone.
I have also experienced the beauty that is Andrea, my full report will come soon (even though its not necessary), but I would like to know what days she works for a future (slightly possible) visit, and what time she usually arrives. I think she takes Mondays off.
Hi Erogenous,
She works usually 6 days a week, and I think you are right that she takes the Mondays off. Think she usually arrives mid to late afternoon and stays until late or even until closing.
The dark girls have always been a little pushy, but this time it was a bit more than usual and got quite annoying at times. One tries to politely dismiss them with the regular answers like "I'm taking a break right now", "I just ate lunch/dinner", or "I just got back from a room". One of them would not stop until "Sorry baby, but you are just not doing it for me right now". Really do not like to be rude to the girls, but some of them just don't get it when you do not fancy them.
Another rather annoying agressive girl is Nicola from Serbia. I had a pretty good session with her few weeks ago, and now she would come to me every 30-40 minutes and pressure me for session. Did not feel like going with her and probably had to turn her down 5 or 6 times. Was starting to avoid her. She noticed me going to room several times over the weekend and finally came to me asking "why do you go with all these girls and not me?". "Just don't feel like going with you" I blurted out. She looked confused by the answer and I think she still does not get it.
Now reading what I write, it sounds like I am whining, but it was all good though.
Chivaz
since I talked to Andrea, but I remember her telling me she would have the Wednesdays off. I´ll try to find out on sunday.
On her working days, she usually enters the club between 4 and 5 p.m and stays until closing time.
It´s quiet easy to miss Ramona if one doesn´t know her. Even at the reception they don´t know who Ramona is. She checks in under a different name...
Hey Novize,
She surely qualifies for that title,,your next ex !! :-)
Don't spend your childrens inheritance all in one club !
Enjoy the nice weather in the garden, damn,, I am jealous. Costa Rica may have to tide me over until I get a chance to return to Fkk land in the early fall.
Have fun Sunday
I had lots of fun... :) :p
Report will follow soon.
And I´ll surely follow your advice - a visit at Flamingo Island is scheduled for Wednesday... ;)
Early fall will be a good time for clubbing - the holidays are over and the girls will be hungry for (paying) man after having recreated during their holidays...
Have fun,
Novize
Novize,
I talked to Andrea last Wednesday. So this does not seem to be her off day. But I will find out tomorrow, since I will have the pleasure of visitng World again. YEAAAAAHHHHHH!
euro
Sunday is World-Day, and so it was the day before yesterday. I checked in at 1 p.m. for wellness recreation.
It was quiet crowded for a sunday, in the early afternoon there were even more male guests than girls. But this changed after the late-shift´s arrival.
I was quiet lazy for the first hours, just sat around, watched the scenery and chatted with some women. But after diner it was time for some action.
My first victim was Claudia - or should I say I was hers? Anyway, she guided me to one of the garden huts, wher it was nice and cool... It was my third session with her, and it has become better and better... Verbal communication is a bit of a chellenge - her German- and English-skills are not the best. But she´s real good in French and other, non-verbal forms of communication. Will repeat for sure!
Name: Claudia
Origin: Romania
Born: ~ 1981
Hair: long, black
Figure: feminine, B-breasts
Height: ~ 1,65 m
Tattoos/Piercings: pierced belly-button, tattoed neck
Other:
The next victim was Alina, back from vacation for about a week.
At first, I witnessed her being approached by two idiots - the first one pounded his dick while talking to her, while the second one pounded her breasts while he was staring stupidly at her. Of course, both were not interested in real action... IMHO two good examples for how to behave NOT towards the women - both were Germans, btw.
After that, our initial conversation was somewhat difficult, but she relaxed when we went for a room It wasn´t a real GFE, but she´s working very customer-oriented and friendly - service above club-average. She speaks german very well, so I didn´t test her english skills - she´s an intersting partner for a good conversation with wit an humour. Will repeat also.
Name: Alina
Origin: Romania
Born: ~ 1983
Hair: dark, shoulder-length, purple-coloured
Figure: very slim, B/C-breasts
Height: ~ 1,65 m
Tattoos/Piercings: none
Other:
Later that evening Georgia approached me and we had a very funny conversation on the couch (at least for me). After having teased her for some time we ent to a room where I very convincingly played my role as a lazybone and let her do the work. I enjoyed her oral techniques till the end. IMHO Georgia is one of the nicest women in the club, but she always picks me up when I´m nt in top-form. Of course, that´s not her fault - I have to improve my timing with her...
Name: Georgia
Origin: Romania
Born: ~ 1982
Hair: brown, shoulder-length.
Figur: slim with the right curves, B-breasts
Height: ~ 1,70 m
Tattoos/Piercings: none
Other:
At the end, the Highlight of the night: UGFE Romaza! The "all-around-carefree-package" for body, mind and soul. My highest recommendation for all those who like tender sex. Try it, and you might get addicted (aas I got...)!
Name: Ramona
Origin: Romania
Born: yes, 1978
Haare: black, long
Figur: feminine, B-breasts
Height: 1,70 m
Tattoos/Piercings: none
Other: Ultimate GFE
I´ll have to taste more of this drug next sunday...
Have fun,
Novize
[QUOTE=Euro100]I talked to Andrea last Wednesday. So this does not seem to be her off day. But I will find out tomorrow, since I will have the pleasure of visitng World again. YEAAAAAHHHHHH![/QUOTE]
So either I misunderstood or she changed her free day..
Anyway, happy hunting! Leave me some girls for sunday... ;) :D
Have fun,
Novize
I was there Tuesday and saw Andrea. I was thre Wednesday and did not see Andrea. Professor Novize, I think you are correct. See you Sunday. There should be enough for all of us.
Dedalus- got your PM. Hope to see you too.
Beffen
I was there on Wednesday as well and did not see Andrea either. Her friend Jana said that they sometimes oscillate their free days between Mondays and Wednesdays. But Wednesday this week was an Adrea-free day.
One more thing I was wrong about: the tall girl with dark-red hair I mentioned in one of my recent posts was not Olga. Noivize had suggested that this was her name. But on Wednesday I had the pleasure of doing a session with the real Olga, the tall red-haired Russian. It was great! I usually hesitate with taller girls, because I had some so-so experiences. But Olga was so model-type statuesque that I could not resist. And it turned out to be an excellent choice. We had a very long foreplay session on a sofa in the kino. Her BBBJ technique is special, because she vibrates her tongue. You have to try her to find out what I mean. She was into all kinds of positions and very enthusiastic about it. We finished in both of us standing, with me doing her from behind. Since I am kind of tall, it takes a tall girl to do this with me. And with her it worked to perfection.
This leaves the question as to who the tall girl with the dark-red hair was that I had sex with 2 weeks ago. Well, I saw her again on Wednesday and did her as well. Her name is Rachel and she is German ... not Russian as I had remembered ... gotta lay off the cocktails ;) She was good again, but still I did not feel the right chemistry. By the way, she always wears something that comes halfway up her upper thighs. On Wednesday it was long black boots. Since It was hot, I wondered how she was able to stand these boots on her feet all day. But this is not my problem.
Wednesday was another good day at World. I decided to go back the next day, Thursday. More on this in my next post.
euro
I got to World kind of late, at about 9 pm. Chilled at the bar first and checked out the scene. I did not see Jana nor Andrea, both of whom I had intended to have a session with.
So my eyes caught Lana, another German girl. She hangs out with Rachel occasionally and also likes to wear high lace stockings. Black or at least very dark brown hair, always pulled back tightly into a ponytail. She has a very pretty face, and her body reminds me a bit of Andrea's. Lana has a serious look to her - she seems the type of girl that you would not dare ask for her phone number in a regular club. But without clothes on, it's a different story, isn't it ;)
Lana was really good and helped restore my faith in German providers. A very pleasant session.
Very soon after I came back from my shower after the session, I saw Jana come back from an encounter with a client. I sat at the bar as she walked by, waived her over, told her to freshen up and meet me in 15 minutes downstairs in front of the fireplace. Then I grabbed a beer and made my way down to claim a couch next to the fireplace.
Another couple was on one of the four sofas, the other three were empty. I was approached three times during the next 10 minutes, but had to send the girls away. Now, there is nothing quite like waiting for a little bit in anticipation of what you already know will be sensational sex. So I really enjoyed my wait.
Jana did not disappoint. When she came over, she smelled absolutely fantastic, and her makeup was put on perfectly. We spent a very long time with foreplay and talking and kissing, and extremly intense BBBJ. Then we went to a room and I took my time to treat her to some deep DATY. It was probably the best hour of sex I ever had. Then we had a smoke together, and she was in absolutely no hurry to leave. We chatted about all kinds of things and made plans for our next date next week.
After I took a shower, I sat down at the bar for another beer. When she came back from the shower, she came right back over to me for some more cuddling and gently kissing and talking. After about 10 minutes of this, she said now she has to go back to work and left. If this is not GFE at its finest, then I do not know.
My fellow mongers, I know the warning signs. I see the same signs in how Novize describes Ramona. ;) But what can you do? Sometimes the chemistry is just do good, you want to come back for more ... again and again.
euro
My fellow mongers, I know the warning signs. I see the same signs in how Novize describes Ramona. ;) But what can you do? Sometimes the chemistry is just do good, you want to come back for more ... again and again.
euro[/QUOTE]
If it works, don't fix it! Your remarks describe and encapsulate the essential magic of FKKs. Your "thing" with Jana should be cultivated and cherished for as long as it lasts. You go to a great restaurant and encounter a superb dish prepared by a master chef...you go back again and again as long as it lasts...you never know when or how things will change. So: Carpe diem whilst the fruit is on the tree...Thanks for your report Euro! Makes me want to book a flight and car next week...
That is what makes the FKK something special and what we call a true GFE. You just can't get that from any SP in a red light district. It may also be the thing that brings the girls back to the same club. When you find someone like that, it is really unbelievable value for the money.
[QUOTE=Ortos]My fellow mongers, I know the warning signs. I see the same signs in how Novize describes Ramona. ;) But what can you do? Sometimes the chemistry is just do good, you want to come back for more ... again and again.
euro[/QUOTE]
If it works, don't fix it! Your remarks describe and encapsulate the essential magic of FKKs. Your "thing" with Jana should be cultivated and cherished for as long as it lasts. You go to a great restaurant and encounter a superb dish prepared by a master chef...you go back again and again as long as it lasts...you never know when or how things will change. So: Carpe diem whilst the fruit is on the tree...Thanks for your report Euro! Makes me want to book a flight and car next week...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Euro100]My fellow mongers, I know the warning signs. I see the same signs in how Novize describes Ramona. ;) But what can you do? Sometimes the chemistry is just do good, you want to come back for more ... again and again.[/QUOTE]
Euro,
As long as you leave club-affairs inside the club, there´s nothing wrong with that.
Just pay attention to care about the costs of living first, and spend only the non-budgeted money for the costs of loving.
Enjoy and have fun,
Novize
[QUOTE=Novize]Euro,
Just pay attention to care about the costs of living first, and spend only the non-budgeted money for the costs of loving.
Novize[/QUOTE]
Novize,
I am not worried about money. Well, not too much at least. Sex in an FKK is not expensive, considering. You can spend $500 for a single pop in New York, and the escort you get may not be into it at all. Compared to this, FKK is an incredible bargain.
If I may be allowed a philosophical interlude on the unfairness of life: When you are a teenager, you are ready and willing to have sex all the time. But you are limited by money. When you get into your 30s and 40s, you are not limited by money any more. ... BUT ... then you have to wait a copule of hours after each pop to regenerate. It just doe snot seem fair ;)
In any case, I am not worried about money. I am worried about getting too attached, mentally.
But enough of the self-pity ;) Back to stories about humping! I'll be back at FKKW on Friday.
cheers
euro
$500 would be for an above average lady in New York, for a gorgeous FKK type woman, you will get a heart attack, the most exclusive New York agencies charge well over a $1000 for an "hour" which in New York escort terms is a ten to fifteen minute suck and fuck all with condom. You will find very few girls who will give out extras, maybe if you pay them a shitload of money, it might happen but its unlikely. Its cheaper to get on a plane to Germany, enjoy the exotic German scenery and culture and get your cock sucked by a luscious blonde or other exotic beauty.
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]$500 would be for an above average lady in New York, for a gorgeous FKK type woman, you will get a heart attack, the most exclusive New York agencies charge well over a $1000 for an "hour" which in New York escort terms is a ten to fifteen minute suck and fuck all with condom. You will find very few girls who will give out extras, maybe if you pay them a shitload of money, it might happen but its unlikely. Its cheaper to get on a plane to Germany, enjoy the exotic German scenery and culture and get your cock sucked by a luscious blonde or other exotic beauty.[/QUOTE]
CBGB: I often disagree with your posts. But not on this one. Everything you say in this post is exactly on the money.
I am doing the transatlantic hop quite frequently. And you can get airfares from the East Coast to FFM for less than $500, if you avoid the main travel season. Add a rental car ($150) and three nights in a cheap hotel (another $150). Take all of your meals and drinks in a club like FKKW, and you gto a hell of a five day vacation for $800 plus $50 times however often you can get it up. And all for the price of perhaps two good or one very good hours with an escort in NYC or DC.
euro
For the last three days the railroad crossing on "Am Pfahlgraben" has had repairs done to it and has been closed. So this presents a problem getting to FKKW. Follow the "Umleitung" to "Industriegebiet" and you should be fine.
I have tried to download a map and post it, but I am not sure that I can do it without confusing the issue.
If you make it to FKKW, the now give you two free beer coupons for your addtional trouble. Nice touch.
The new "Glücksrad" wheel: If you arrive between midnight and 2 am, then you get to spin it. Big whoop! There are about 20 different sements on the wheel. 3/4 of them are empty. The prizes listed last night were: 5, 10, 15 euro off your entrance fee, free VIP room upgrade, bottle of champagne.
All in all, it is not worth delaying your visit until after midnight. But still, they are trying to do nice things for the customer.
happy humping
euro
OK, at least I produced a map of Garbenteich with the location of FKKW and the closed railroad crossing marked with the blue bar. This should help you in finding your way.
I guess we do all agree that the facilities at FKKW are superb. Is there anybody who has knowledge about the history of the place BEFORE it became a playground for our hobby?
I guess it must have been some industry-moguls private villa, with a few modifications done, i.e. the addition of that ugly outside steel staircase leading to the park and pool, the downstair sauna and certainly the cabins out in the park.
Any info would be highly appreciated.
Thanks!
Happy mongering!
Frankfurter,
I have wondered about the same thing. Last year one of the employees at World told me that the place belonged to the ownere of an office furniture company. The company was housed in the huge building on the next hill, the one that one can see from the Autobahn and that is for rent now. The compnay went bankrupt, and the owner was forced to sell, or the bank repossessed.
I am pretty sure that the huge iron staircase leading to the outdoor pool was there before FKKW moved into the building. German utilitarian architecture at its finest.
euro
Euro,
Mostly right, but the staircase was built by the World management. It wasn't there when the place opened. I was there for one of the free entry day, and then you needed to use one of the other two staircases to get downstairs. I am pretty sure it is a fire regulation thing, as otherwise there is only one exit to outside (the front door) from the main room, which is a major fire hazzard.
Peter, Euro: it
That's what I thought. The staircase looks so much like an afterthought that I had doubts that is an original design. Peter, you are probably right on the money, it could quite well be a fire reg thing.
Would be too cool to see original photographs or plans of the place when it was still a private residence!
I will be back in Germany in mid August, World is on the itinerary, again.
The railroad crossing is open again. So the normal traffic flow to World is possible again. But they are still giving away two free beer coupons at the door. Nice.
I only had an hour on Wednesday, and since some of my favorites (Jana, Andrea) took the day off, I tried someone new.
Julia, blond, blue eyes, farily tall and thin, well-shaped breast with nipples tanding at attention. Alina, form Rumania, has taken her under her wings and was trying to sell me a threesome. I declined and just took Julia. Julia claims she is form Russia, but when I asked from what city she was evasive. And later I asked Olga about Julia, and she did not know her. So they are probably not from the same country.
Julia is new to the business, her first week. And I predict she will not last. Let's leave it at that. She has the gorgeous looks, but lacks the attitude. Not recommended!
euro
I would really like to spend an afternoon at World with my beach towel and suntan lotion. Has it been done and is there any restriction in doing that?
Surely enough I will be sampling 2 or 3 ladies. Tanning does get me horny!!!
no restrictions. You don´t even need to bring your own towel... ;-)
The biggest problem would be the weather...
... and the girls. Sometimes they will awake you from a reverie. I was woken by two a few days ago - I jumped out of my skin and scared them I think. However when they saw it was me (I had my towel over my head!!) they ran away (there is a code of honour amongst a few of the girls that they will not screw the partner of a fellow- worker...or maybe they just fear being murdered by a jealous woman??).
The girls may mutter to themselves about the men sunbathing all day - but many men do exactly that. What they really hate is men watching sport (they prefer men sporting with girls)
If the weather is good World is wonderful. If it is poor there are still plenty of places to relax and read.. ... Viagra might let you know she has spotted you by declaring "Amore" to the whole world and plumping her key attractions on top of you but most girls tend to wait to be approached
Btw - you only need the towel to sit on. Which must be a shock to the low flying light aircraft which venture over World and get an eyeful of naked men. Serves the aviators right - maybe they are gay?
"The railroad crossing is open again. So the normal traffic flow to World is possible again." So disappointed. Here was innocent old me thinking they were building a branch line up to World itself. After all, they already built us a few nice Autobahns to get there. :-)
[QUOTE=Euro100]
Julia is new to the business, her first week. And I predict she will not last. Let's leave it at that. She has the gorgeous looks, but lacks the attitude. Not recommended!
euro[/QUOTE]
Euro,
Is this the Julia with the Tattoo down her back who wears her hair straight back in a ponytail?
I saw Eva at Oase last Saturday. She is still mighty fine ;-)
Cheers,
Dedalus
That is how it is: Whenever I am on holiday, I just find a good spot an I won't move.
So do you think I can have the action there and then on the deck chair or on the grass? (Anyone knows some good ant insecticide :-) )
In Oase I had found it hard to find a woman that would do it publicly. I ended finding someone who just wanted to do it on the benches next to the pool (On the other side of the small huts).
It was actually at Oase that I first thought of nude sunbathing among the nude ladies. The indoor swimming pool does however put them behind World.
It'l be my first visit.
Blake.
It all depends on the girl. I think none of them would do full sex in the main room (although Catalyst reports some major sucess on this many many months ago), but most would do in the Kino. Many would have sex on the grass, and several would have sex in the Relax Zone. Other more regular visitors than myself would be able to give you names. Viagra will almost for preference have sex in the public Relax Zone (the large downstairs room)
[QUOTE=Blake]In Oase I had found it hard to find a woman that would do it publicly. I ended finding someone who just wanted to do it on the benches next to the pool (On the other side of the small huts).
[/QUOTE]
This is an interesting observation. I have always noticed that of the "Big Three" Oase is the club were one is most likely to see, or take part in, a lot of open sex, whether it be in the main rooms, kino, outside, by the pool OR at the bar (yes, I have seen this!)
Cheers,
Dedalus
Dedalus,
Would you agree that at World Daniella of Romania would be one girl who would be more public-orineted than the average girl there? During my contacts with her about a year to six months ago, she seemed to me to be a very demonstative provider. One who indeed thrived on the exhibisionism to some extent, no?
Ortos,
Indeed, that is true. She can be very much the extrovert! I have been known to do a bit of public works with her myself. However Oase seems to have a larger number of girls who are extroverts and also the guests at Oase tend to be pretty "free-spirited".
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hi Dedalus, shiatsu, ortos, novize, and those of you I haven't met yet:
I think the Julia that Euro 100 refers to is the one Desert Fox and I have dubbed "bouncy, bouncy" Julia, perky very bouncy sizeable boobs, lonmg legs and a slim body, a giggly school girl demeanor, always flipping her hair, giggling, running around, dancing to the music, and touching her boobs. She spent the entire week avoiding my advances. She is Romanian (for a change!) and hangs out with two black haired Romanians who call her blondie.
Another Julia I did have the pleasure to meet is from Bulgaria, black hair, gorgeous body with full wonderful boobs. Desert Fox's date Rebecca ran and got her in the dining room and introduced us and the four of us repaired to the Relax Zone to flirt. Good couch kissing led to the mirrored sleigh bed VIP room upstairs for an hour. This Julia excels at and enjoys cowgirl in all its variations, I especially liked when she would open her mouth in a prolonged "silent scream" before switching to more audible signs of appreciation and stimulation. Fun to talk to also.
The round butt gorgeous Julia with the Chinese characters on her back and the blonde pony tail still will not speak to myself or Desert Fox- this girl gets upset if you do not finish in 20 minutes.
Regarding public sex, I had a nice half hour on the swing and in the grass next to a bank of lovely yellow lysimachia punctata beyond the first hedgerow with Nadia last week. Out by the barbed wire periphery- I imagined I was a prisoner in a sex camp. I wished they would extend my sentence for bad behavior.
I hope it is sunny here this weekend, the tan I got at World last week is fading.
Beffen
I won’t talk about the detail of World as others have reported enough on this. But there are some odd thoughts which might be worth adding (hope they're not too egocentric). I was there for three days recently, and on one there were half a dozen wsg colleagues there to keep me company (although I left much earlier in the night than them)
For the record, in response to a question which I keep being asked, No, my wife does not earn money to pass on to me to spend on girls. She would not want her hard-earned money frittered on the competition.... I spend my own money!! Nor does she not talk to me about any of the men - professional confidence and all that
Whilst the girls generally do not talk about the men (unless there is a particular reason), they do notice what is going on and don’t like it when men are rude or rowdy. I was told that, on the Sunday night (after I left), there was a group which was rather rowdy (possibly drinking?) and that some of the girls at least were not happy with their behaviour or what they were saying. We need to remember that the girls are real people, they listen carefully, and that they are not just part of the scenery there for our benefit.
I had some weird experiences. Most of which resulted from girls knowing I was there with my wife. They felt it improper to go with me – presumably because, as they said, they would kill their boyfriends if he went with another girl. One or two girls just blanked me, Juliet (not either of the Julias) ignored me totally point blank when I said hello and stood next to her – unforgivably rude. One – to her credit – explained to me directly and pleasantly. However I began to feel like a mass murderer. Even though I would have been happy to pay just for a conversation!!
Other girls talked to each other to discuss whether it was ok to go with me. Some saying it was fine, others saying that I would have to check it was ok with my wife.
I guess this isn’t much use to other members but it does show that the girls behave just like any other people and that in the hothouse atmosphere of working long hours they can find things difficult to sort out
Given all these difficulties, I guess I was lucky that anyone came near me. Viagra was of course unabashed and did half hour in the RelaxZone (although to be honest most of that we spent talking by my choice). And thanks to the sterling support of a wsg member I found Melinda (young, blond, Rumanian) who was very pleasant – but I had trouble sustaining my interest for half-hour. I spent a long time talking with Andrea .
I found the two free beers an improvement, and the fact that there is no music round the Pool. The outside grounds are large enough to find peace and quiet (should you want it) away from the anodyne World music
Btw - Daniella is back
Shiatsu,
I am glad you are spending so much time talking in the rooms. My favourite hobby wiht the girls too.
My question to World is whether it is still 80% romanian girls?
I will get to spend my possiable last sunday(10th july) at world this sunday hope to be early but have a long drive. hope some of my old favs are there if anyone will be around i hope you will say hello.
rd
[QUOTE=Peter]
My question to World is whether it is still 80% romanian girls?[/QUOTE]
The Romanian percentage is pretty high. Most of the Romanian girls that I know there are top-acts.
Shiatsu,
Thanks for the word on Daniela. I am hunting for my car keys as I type.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Peter -To confirm Dedalus - the Rumanian group are the most numerous, but they are not the same as those who previously had a bad attitude - so far as I can tell (and as you can tell, I didn't sample many of the personalities on offer this time). The atmosphere is very good again.
Since Friday was going to be my last mongering day for quite a while, I made sure I got to FKKW early and stayed for 12 hours. I entered at noon and had my first session with Juliana almost right away. I had observed her on Wednesday and chatted with her. She is very nice once you get to talk to her, a fun girl with a great personality. She is half German and half Italian, and has blond hair that usually hangs open halfway down her back. It was fun sex with a bit of laughter. We smoked a cigarette before and after, and Juliana is definitely worth a repeat visit.
The day was young, and I already had made plans on who to find next (Ramona, of course, because by then I had not found her yet). But before I could follow up on my intentions, Rachel and Lana sat down next to me. They tried to sell me on a threesome. This might actually be fun with them, because they live together and are bi-sexual. But I did not bite. I had come back from the Zimmer and so I felt I needed more rest. Rachel and Lana are fun to chat with, though, and so they hung around a bit. And since Lana has these gorgeous tits with perky nipples, pretty soon junior started telling me to lean over and finger them beauties. What followed was a very enjoyable session with Lana. We moved to the kino for the normal foreplay and BBBJ part, then went to one of the adjacent rooms. She is great at talking dirty while fucking. So if you are into this, give her a shot (pun intended!).
A business meeting took me out of FKKW for the next three hours. But as usual, I was allowed to reenter without extra charge. (If you want to do this too, you need to tell the girl at the recption that you intend to return before you leave. She will give you a receipt and save your wristband for you.)
When I returned, it was 7 pm, and the evening shift had already arrived. To my disappointment Jana and Andrea had also taken Friday evening off, as had Olga. Bummer, since I had wanted to finish my week off with a Jana-Andrea threesome, and since I also had wanted to sample Olga again!
But I got over it pretty fast with Nadja. She is a German, fairly tall, only 20 years old, model looks, and a light-to-medium-brown skin color. (Definitely not your stereotypical German look!) She is slim, but with very nice boobs. A German told me she was into Kampfficken (battle-fucking), and indeed she was. Nadja is definitely the opposite of Ramona in this respect. I have also seen that Nadja simply turns guys down cold, and others I talked to confirmed this. Most of the day she and her equally tall 26-year-old friend spent trying to sell threesomes, sometimes annoyingly so. But hey, Nadja was fun in the sack.
Then followed Ramona, definitely one of the highlights of the day and week.
At 11 pm I felt that I had one last shot left in the barrel. Mickey! Just like Ramona, also from Rumania, also tall, also loooong black full hair. Her face is not as round as Ramona’s, and she has a small diamond piercing in the left side of her upper lip. Even though these piercing usually annoy me, Mickey shot me this look that just oozed sex. I smiled at her, and she came over to my sofa that I had strategically occupied in the Rumanian quadrant. Mickey had been at the table when I came over to meet Ramona a couple of hours earlier, and so she knew me already. We took a smoke together, picked up a couple of drinks, and went downstairs. Another extremely enjoyable session that left me with a big grin. Mickey also went into the list of my favorites. She is a great performer and seductively gorgeous to look at. This is a combination that is hard to find. I’ll have to spend more time with her in the future.
I am exhausted, but recapping the experience was fun
euro
After an exchange of PMs with Novize, who gave me a couple of pointers, I then went on an unsuccessful quest to locate Ramona. I asked all girls who roughly fit the profile what their name was. One girl I asked was Mickey. She is an incredible looker in my book, and I had really hoped that she was Ramona, but tough luck. Mickey is also tall, with very long jet-black hair, also Rumanian. How many of them can there be? More on this thread is to follow below when I talk about my other Friday experiences.
As I previously said, I did not have a lot of time on Wednesday. Just one session with Julia. But I did not manage to spot the famous Ramona.
An afterthought on Julia: she really is gorgeous, and as I watched her strolling around on Friday, I noticed that lots of guys turned their heads. She went to a room fairly often, and she almost always came back very soon. Maybe I should revise my opinion on her. She really is great eye candy, one of the most gorgeous women I have ever seen. And hey, if you want to get rid of that first load in a hurry, perhaps you cannot do better than her.
Back to the hunt for Ramona: Most other girls are of no help when you ask for them to point out Ramona. Typically, only girls of a given nationality know each other. So you have to ask a Romanian in order for her to point out Ramona. Since I have not had a regular Romanian at FKKW, I did not feel comfortable asking any of them. I did ask Jana and Andrea, and a couple of my favorite German and Italian providers, but none knew who Ramona was.
Now I have to shift to Friday evening. I had already done a couple sessions (more on those below), but still not found Ramona. Then around 9 pm I found myself sitting in the hot tub next to a German guy. Behind us Edith (black hair, Hungarian, just a little rounder than the FKKW average, great kisser, nice rack) is really getting into it with a guy. This made concentrating on our conversation a little harder, but we managed. The usual banter on who we can recommend to each other. So I asked him if he knows a Ramona. He said yes, she just walked out of a room with a guy. A buddy of his walked by. His name is Klaus, and they know each other from the German Roemerforum. Klaus, it turns out, is a big Ramona fan. He used the term “UGFE”, and this makes me think of Novize’s post right away. (Novize, maybe you know him?) I asked Klaus if he can point her out to me, and he agreed. So we went upstairs to the Wintergarten, and he started looking for her. Since he did not see her, we decided to have a coffee. Before the coffees came, Ramona entered. Klaus pointed her out to me, gave me few suggestions on what she likes and does not like, and right away I made my way over to her.
Novize is right, she is a very nice and tender girl. I would not rank her in the top-5 of the providers at FKKW in terms of looks. But still, at least 80% of the girls at FKKW are very pretty, and so this is not really a knock on Ramona. But my point is without Novize’s glowing report, I likely would have missed this gem. So a big thank-you to you, Novize.
We talked a while upstairs and just cuddled a bit. Then we moved downstairs to one of the leather sofas and just started kissing for a while. Then three guys sat down across from us and watched her administer BBBJ. Ramona got self-conscious and suggested we go to a room. There we had an extremely enjoyable half-hour session. She was very receptive. Great tender sex, just as advertised! She was also nice enough to warn me that there were only three minutes left in the half hour. Well, by the time I was done it turned out to be 35 minutes, but still only 50 euro. It was a tremendous session and well worth the hunt.
By the way, she told me she would go on a month-long vacation soon. So get her while you still can.
happy mongering
euro
i got done much earlier with a business deal in eastern europe than anticipated. that’s why i was able to enjoy monday night at world. my flight arrived at ffm in the early evening; and so there was plenty of time to enjoy a couple of sessions. i already reported on the problems with the closed (and now open again) railroad crossing. but i have not talked about the experiences on that evening, because i just did not have time to sit down and write it up. so here goes.
right when i entered the wintergarten, my eyes fell on jana. she smiled broadly at me. i went over to her, and we chatted for a while. she was in no hurry at all, because she knew she had me in the bag. i was hungry and went for a meal. i seem to recall that is was lentil soup with the frankfurter hotdogs. i took my coffee and cigarette after the meal in the leather chair that jana was draped over. then we slowly got to business. andrea passed by a couple of times and smiled and winked at us. somehow this heightened my pleasure.
jana actually shared some details of her life with me, but i cannot divulge them here. it is a bit unusual that a girl does this, and when it happens we should not betray the confidence.
well, sex is what we talk about, and it was great. one full hour of unhurried, sometimes gentle, sometimes playful, sometimes pounding copulations. we smoked a cigarette in the room after the deed was done and continued talking. it was the type of sex that i have now almost come to expect with jana.
another shower (i must have taken more than twenty at fkkw) during the last two weeks.), and a half hour of plain lying there enjoying the afterglow. jana had moved on, of course, as is expected from a pro. she comes there to make money. i understand and i really don’t mind. chatting with several guys, i advertised her to the best of my ability.
back to the jana and andrea story: taking one of my customary strolls around the premises, i ran into andrea. she did not just give me her customary smile and short chitchat in the hallway, but was very sweet and almost talkative. andrea has been one of my favorites for almost two years, ever since fkkw opened. and i must have had at least 10 sessions with her. and of course it had not escaped her that i had deposited 5 pops with here best friend while ignoring her. so perhaps what followed was her attempt to reclaim some lost territory. she started our conversation by saying: “jana talks a lot about you, but she does not know that i have known you for almost two years.” and my only thought was: “yeahhhh! this will be great!”
andrea led me to a downstairs sofa and gave me the extreme andrea treatment that i have come to like. great eye contact during bbbj! all the usual sliding of her body up and down mine. after about 20 minutes she led me to the corner room. she told me we need extreme privacy. she gave me another great bbbj, with all the fine variations that only a true pro seems to be able to provide, and that almost made me pop. then it was my job. i have done daty with her almost every time, but she was more eager this time, guiding me, helping, working with me.
we put on a hat, and then we worked through all positions that i know. and again she was giving me more feedback than she usually does, working on her own pleasure. i don’t want to give too many details, but she came. now that i experienced this, i am pretty sure that she had not had an orgasm with me in any of the sessions before. we finished after almost an hour with cim. this made it an expensive session, but well worth it. it was a great mixture of slow and tender movements at times and raw pounding at others.
after sex she actually stayed around for a while, and we talked about her life, her childhood, her plans for the future. this also had never happened before with her. silly as it sounds, we made a date for september, my next scheduled trip to germany.
so now i really do not know any more whom i enjoyed more, andrea or jana. but hey, this monday has to go down as one of the best mongering days of my life.
euro
I am posting the next posts in readable order so that you can just read from top to bottom. I wrote them on the transatlantic flight back to the US and then just cut and pasted them into the forum. But let me start out by answering some points that have come up since my last post:
Daniela is definitely there again. She seems to have had her boobs adjusted again, downsized a bit from the first over-inflation. Perhaps they were under warranty ;) I fingered them on Friday, and they really are works of art.
Rumanian percentage: I would guess less than 50%. But they count some of the finest among them: Mickey, Ramona, Georgia are all stars. And they are nice girls on top of it all.
Spending time talking: I agree with Peter and Shiatsu. But one still had to keep in mind that once the session is over most girls feel the need to move on to the next guy. After all, this is the way they make money.
Shiatsu: I almost met you on Monday evening, and I am sorry that I missed you and your wife. As you were leaving FKKW, fairly early as I recall, the girl I was standing with pointed you out to me. She echoed what came through in your comments and said that she found it strange that both of you were in the same room at the same time, preparing to have sex with others. Even though I will have to make another two-month break from FKKW now, I certainly hope that we will have the pleasure of meeting in the future. I regret the missed opportunity to meet you and your lovely wife.
[QUOTE=Beffen1]
The round butt gorgeous Julia with the Chinese characters on her back and the blonde pony tail still will not speak to myself or Desert Fox- this girl gets upset if you do not finish in 20 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Yes, that is the Julia that I was writing about.
[QUOTE=Ortos]Would you agree that at World Daniella of Romania would be one girl who would be more public-orineted than the average girl there? During my contacts with her about a year to six months ago, she seemed to me to be a very demonstative provider. One who indeed thrived on the exhibisionism to some extent, no?[/QUOTE]
Absolutely agreed! Before her boob job, Daniela once gave me a standing BBBJ at the upstairs bar that almost brought me to completion. She is a sex-maniac, who likes is very public.
This was a shaky trip but it turned out OK, in fact very memorable, especially the last two days. I arrived at the Excelsior at 11;30 AM and of course my room was ready. They gave me a fan to lessen the stifling heat. As I unpacked and relaxed for a while I realized I had developed a painful frontal sinusitis soon after I arrived. Thus, on Monday, supposed to be Oase day, I stayed in the hotel after check in, all day and all night. Just didn’t feel well.
Tuesday I went to FKK World for Dessous!! I took the bus from the Giessen bahnhof, only 1.75 euro instead of 18 euro in the taxi, but it takes nearly 40 minutes snaking it's way through Giessen and neighboring towns before dropping me off infront of an FKK World sign near Garnbenteich Sportsplex leaving a ten minute walk. This did not do my sinus condition any good. It was hot and sunny and I spent most of the afternoon by the pool. A number of girls were using the pool, sunning themselves and playing with balls in the pool, notably the young bouncy bouncy Julia of Romania and her two black haired mates. During the late afternoon, I started with Geri from Bulgaria but it was a lackluster session largely since she was depressed that she had to get on a bus to Bulgaria the next day, also it was fucking hot in the cabin. Later, after a warm greeting and many kisses, I did the sweet and tender Ramona in a hut for 30 minutes. It was not hot in this cabin since it was later and the sex more gentle and affectionate than porn star. Dessous day was pretty busy, about 45 girls and an equal number of guys. Although I was not feeling too well, Cordelia was great to hang out with, she was my only “friend” around, Fox was busy until the weekend. I took the train to Hbf at 23:53.
The next day, Wednesday, another sunny day I arrived around 2 PM for more "pool inaction". Again, I took the bus after leaving the train from Frankfurt. With the pain increasing, I only managed to do a little black- haired compact fireplug of a Romanian, Vanessa- no English, session essentially dead after a great 20 minute blow job since she couldn’t understand that I wanted only now a 10 minute fuck and not an hour. We discussed the time and the rates for three minutes and Peppy was gone. My head hurt. She was not very busy the rest of the week I saw her. I enjoyed the pool during the day. The club was less busy than dessoustag. Feeling tired and with an ache in my forehead that even the hot sauna didn’t correct, I again took the train at midnight back to Hbf. One half hour session.
Thursday dawned sunny and with my pain at it’s worst. I stayed in the Excelsior, ate aspirin and took my emergency z-pack antibiotics for Chlamydia not knowing if it would cover my problem, and text messaged wim that I cannot take the train to Holland for the Yin Yang. I called Delta to see if they could fly me home early, NO all the flights are full. Another boring day and night spent in a stuffy room- but they gave me a fan and it was cool.
Friday I awoke pain free, but it soon returned but not as bad. It was time to check into the Steinsgarten in Giessen so I trained up there at 1 PM. I checked into a lovely double room with an outdoor balcony, I had applied for the Best Western Card and so they upgrade you all the time, this was for 79 euro. I watched and listened to the rain until 8 PM when I got hungry and called a cab to go to World. The girls said it was slow and seemed so to me, low energy. I hooked up with Alina from Bulgaria born in Siberia, a tall, very slim black haired sweetheart. I was resting by the indoor pool, she came over, smiled, sat down and we talked for 30 minutes with the kissing and caressing beginning after about 15 minutes. I enjoyed her for an hour in the upstairs room with the small platform bed and mirrors that is to your right if you are heading out of the Winter Garden. One of the smallest beds in the house. And the room I seem to be finding myself in more and more. Anyway, we had a great time, she has a great personality and a very tight body. I gave her Pepto’s greatest hits CD. Later on, she seemed down, she told me she was catching a cold or something and felt like shit- I pumped her full of airborne and when I left, she was burning up with fever and she was absent Saturday and Sunday. I saw Andrea and we smiled our hellos- my first sighting of her from my arrival at 8PM up until 3:30, when I left for the night. For me one session, one hour.
Saturday- its time to start having fun, right? It’s the day of the big Challenge Cup game, they have the game on a big screen in a tent, rain showers are around but intermittent, and the barbecue is going. Cordelia’s Shiatsu is around so I have someone else to talk to. Now, you will remember that Czech Andrea was no longer fond of me becuase I briefly questioned the time on a session. Well, the last two or three trips she has ignored me and turned me down. Saturday, I bumped into her at the entrance to the Relax by the indoor pool and she was very effusive and welcoming. It wasn’t long before I had her on a couch. I’d forgotten how incredible it is how she pours herself onto you, body and soul, and makes you feel like number 1. We went to the tiny bedroom upstairs again, she looks great in the mirrors but that bed is just too damned small for me, luckily, that doesn’t matter with Andrea- she really is the topper, I made her come with my fingers and tongue. We talked at length and she is totally cool. All my pain was gone, and we had a super session, lovers again. I managed another half hour session of tenderness and a bit of sex with Ramona before leaving at around 2:30.
Sunday was to be the big reunion with wim coming from Amsterdam, Desert Fox possibly as well as Dedalus, just back from a tour. I got a late checkout from Steinsgarten and arrived at World at 13:00. At the entry desk I met limbo4u, a Dutch guy on from the NL board I know from PHG, he said a bunch of guys are coming from Holland today. He had driven me home to Venlo from PHG once, and later I was glad to make Andrea his first World girl ever. Pay back time. I had a wonderful breakfast with Shiatsu. The sun is out, so I am out by the pool. Olga is so hot, but we had that shitty session so…. I am sunning and here come six more Dutch guys, very talkative and friendly. We compared notes for a couple of hours and at 3:30, Wim arrived with a surprise guest, Mike DeHavilland, who was awestruck. I showed him around a bit. Ramona came over for a sit and a back rub but I was not anxious for number three with her. Soon, Dedalus arrived. More pool non-action.
Wim brought me a short gram of NYC diesel, which I rolled up into microjoints in the toilet and went out beyond the hedgerow to smoke one. It blew me away. After seeking some water to get rid of the cotton mouth, I finally went up to Nadia and we strolled back out to the hedgerow to a swing seat near the perimeter. As she got on her knees to blow me as I sat on the swing, looked at the bank of flowers backed by the fence and then barbed wire and thought- I am a prosoner in a sex camp. The guards are lovely. Nadia is cool and we had a great 30 minute alfresco romp, she is gorgeous. She didn’t really want me eating her though. So, since I was still a little hungry, I enjoyed the barbecue again with Dedalus, saunaed with Mike, wandered around, wim had done Olga and said she was professional, ran the session, but offered a great variety of positions in quick succession- just what I remembered and was turned off by.
Limbo4u had taken my advice and done Andrea for his first and was very impressed. Zero from the NL board also did her, as did Mike De, she seemed to be avoiding me again, oh no!!!! Novize arrived now. Everywhere I went, there were mongers I knew and it was hard to hunt since you got sidetracked. Around 10 PM, Ruth the downstairs barmaid told me Fox was looking for me We found each other in the showers and settled down to eat something in the dining room. We were soon joined by Rebecca of Bulgaria, the tall blonde and a favorite of his. She bid me to wait while she goes and gets her friend, a gorgeous black haired girl named Julia with perfect medium sized chebs and a face like Penelope Cruz combined with Anna the Minnie Mouse of Alkmaar and the evil pixie girl (the short Romanian) from Oase. All four of us sat on couches by the big screen at the downstairs bar and soon I was into Julia. We went upstairs and got the sleigh bed mirrored room just as limbo4u was coming out with a date. We spent a super hour devouring each other and grinding in cowgirl, she did most of the driving and was into it, she’d open her mouth in a silent scream, I’d kiss her and the silent scream became more audible.
Again Fox and I met in the showers, he had gone with Rebecca for an hour as well. We both repaired downstairs, where we convened a mongers conclave at the downstairs bar. Zero- the 21 year old moderator of the Belgium section of the NL board, confirmed that he too had been with Andrea, and she made him forget his one so-so and one lousy session so far. I went searching and found her on the stairs by the water cooler. I joked that “You fuck all my friends but not me tonight” and she laughed and hugged me and indicated she would return to me after she takes a shower. It is 2:00 and as I wait, wim and Mike come by to say so long. The Dutch and Belgian guys are getting a little drunk and rowdy, offending the sensibilities of some girls, but it is all good fun. I cannot handle any more weed and end up throwing it all out the window of Novizes car on the way to the airport.
Finally, Andrea returns and after a short check of rooms, we settle on the large room that serves as an entrance to the tent city near the water cooler. Another hour of bliss, we really connected, slurpy deep and varied BJ with ball ingestion and hot breathing, she even uses her feet when she is on top, she rode my bare back cock rubbing her pussy on it without insertion until she seemed to climax. We talked about life, the FKK game, me, she loved her music CD’s, why no wife?? Etc etc. I love Andrea.
I returned to the boys and soon it was time to go. Guys were pairing off for one last session, Fox with a Romanian cutiepie, Dedalus with Andrea (most of her sessions this day seemed to be with guys I know). Some of us downed multiple coffees (Novize), some ate the cold cut they bring out at 3AM, (zero and me) and soon we were all in the locker room getting dressed. Novize dropped me at the airport at 5 AM and I waited the two hours to check in, then dozed from 7:30 to 10:30 on the lounges in the terminal, and had a flawless on time flight in coach and was home by 5:30 PM, whereupon my neighbor invited me to his 4th of July barbecue.
So, you see this trip got better as it went along. Hanging with all the boys on Sunday was a special treat and I had some great sessions, but I am definately slowing down. I only withdrew 1100 euro for the whole week, I arrived with 175 euro and left with 125. Work was a disaster and my boss at the lab was not happy that two machines broke down the day I left. Wednesday at the bar I also work at, I did security for a 90 minute acoustic set by Bon Jovi and met Howard Stern. The place is filled with NYC yentas, I get horny when the girls walk close at the bar because I am used to them being naked and reaching under my towel. My next trip is booked.
"I wrote them on the transatlantic flight back to the US and then just cut and pasted them into the forum."
Just read this sentence (and am looking forward to reading the whole report) and wanted to quickly mention an experience I had. I stopped in Germany on the way to a work assignment and on the second flight of the trip I was writing up my FKK experiences on my computer. Due to the personal nature of the piece I was careful to keep my screen where the stranger next to me would have a hard time seeing it. Still, I was a bit shaken when I arrived at my assignment and found that he was one of the new people I would be working with.
In case anyone is interested - a bit more about my difficulties in securing willing women at World. One reason is that some of the women think that I am raking off from Cordelia's earnings so therefore come within the hated category. (However the girls who know us realise that is a load of rubbish - I spend my own money). I guess that is because that's their experience of the world maybe.It's quite unpleasant to be seen like that but at least it explains the antagonism (almost loathing) I was picking up from a few girls. Just shows that even the best set up can go wrong
Shiatsu,
Do you ever find yourself thinking: What if we were able to rewind the tape? What if, on the first visit Cordelia and I made to World, way back in 200?, we entered separately, at different times and during all our time in the club we never acknowledged publically that we knew each other or had any sort of connection? Do you think A) you would have been able to pull that off?; B) What kind of difference would it have made?
By the way, since the c ards are kind of stacked against you at World (for the reasons you lay out and maybe even some others that we cannot even guess?), do you ever just wish go to another club like Oase or Palace? or FI or Augsburg?
Do you and Cordelia have plans to maybe branch out one night or one trip and go to another FKK area, like the Dusseldorf-M-gladbach-Duisburg so-called "Golden Triangle?" If so, would you re-evaluate your strategy and do, as discussed above, enter as separate dis-connected entities? Anonymity has its advantages in FKK, no?
Ortos
Ortos - yes you are right. Bringing the real world relationship into the FKK upsets the apple cart a bit. However we are too straightforward to pretend we are not connected. And the reasons Cordelia ended up at World (for the time being) were the result of my attachment to the place. Cordelia will not try somewhere else - it's hard to arrange from England and also she does not consider it to be her long term career.
Btw - I expect to be at World this Saturdauy and Sunday - if anyone wants to say hi.
I still love sundays at world even this sunday with a low number of girls and a high number of girls i did not know.
I arrived early and the selection was not al that great had a few sessions not worth talking about.
Then I went with Ramona
nothing to say. it has all been said. she is hard to find cause she is always busy and when she is not she is not (or at least i dont see her ) in a group
I was on the prowl again and found a little romanian pixie she said she her father was greek she was called alex I think. She had dark black hair mid length and was a so so session but I have a feeling she might give a better service to others she was very willing. but just not a super star yet but she had the most curious small mouth when i kissed it was somethig i never felt before so i guess it was worth the cash just for that. anyway YMMV
then i was with julia (or claudia) recommendation from the great novice. Found here to be very fun. but still my fav is ramona.
sorry for the unorganized report but thought best to share some info although not a lot new. If I can make it back i will keep up the dirty work and looking for new FKKW stars
rd
[QUOTE=RedDog]then i was with julia (or claudia) recommendation from the great novice.[/QUOTE]
RedDog, her name is Claudia. I asked, after the question had come up on sunday.
Have fun,
Novize
My compliments to the proprieters and webmaster on the new site. I just saw it, so it's new to me. Excellent job.
NB
Hi All,
First, thanks for all the useful info in this forum. I'll be visiting World for the first time this Fri and Sat (July 22-23) and I'm sure that the posted info will be very valuable.
My only concern is that I won't be able to recognize all the important `players' described in the previous postings. It would be great if one of experienced visitors is around during one of these days and could direct me in the best directions! Or, please post/pm reasonably accurate descriptions of your favoriites.
Thanks in advance,
CD
don´t get nervous!!! ;)
You shouldn´t concentrate so much on [b]our[/b] favourites.
Try to find [b]yours[/b] !!!
That´s the challenge. You don´t have to screw every girls that cheers you. Take your time and find out...
An, of course,
Have fun!
Novize
@ carpediem:
I am completely with Novize on this one. Just about every girl has something special for you to find. That is the amazing thing. I have had sex with over 20 of the current set of providers at FKKW, and almost always I came away happy with the experience.
When you get there, go ahead and ask the other mongers who they like. Most of us will be more than glad to give you our opinions. But, of course, what works for one person may not be so ideal for the next. You have to follow your own instincts.
If after all of these disclaimers you still want a few proven acts to sample, here is my attempt to describe some of them:
The famous Andrea: medium height, very black and long slightly wavy hair down to the middle of the back. Holds herself in ideal posture all the time, very upright. Always smiles, gently approaches, and, if not successful, moves on to the next guy. Has eyes that are ever-so-slightly wider apart than the norm. Rumanian. Skin color looks very dark tanned.
Olga. Russian. Pretty tall. Red-blond hair. Shoulder-long. Natural boobs on the larger side, fair skin color. The most distinguishing characteristic of hers is the vibrator action she applies when giving a blow-job, but that is kinda hard to use as a pointer when trying to indetify her from a distance ;)
Ramona. Rumanian. Very tall. A little heavier set than Andrea, her face a bit rounder. Also very long wavy black hair. Novize's fav, but that last piece of information does not help you to identify her :( On the other hand, this alone was good enough that I spent several hours looking for her. And in the end I was successful. And so will you, I predict.
Viagra. Black girl. Huge rack. I mean HUGE. Enhanced. Slim waist, nice size bum, as they call it down in Brazil, where she is from. Has a stud in her lower lip. Fucks you hard. Even though there are usually three or so other balck Brazilian girls there, Viagra may be the most easy to recognize.
Julia. Blond, long hair, usually worn pulled back into a pony tail. Has a line of Chinese characters tattoo down her lower spine. "Trophy fuck" (I am sayin gthis with all due respect), who does not get into it much. But she sure is easy to recognize.
... I hope this helps ...
Again, if some girl appeals to you, then go for it. Your impression should count much more than all opinions expressed on this board.
euro
Euro100,
Thanks for your Catalougue of Stars. Great to read your spot on descriptions!
But just a slight correction:
Andrea is Czech not Romanian.
Neither Andrea nor Ramona are currently working at World.
Anyway,
Have fun,
Novize
Herr Novize,
I knew that Ramona was away. Is Andrea on "vacation" or is something else going on?
Cheers,
Dedalus
@ortos: Yes, my apologies. Yes, Andrea is Czech. Of course. Her friend Jana is from Slovakia, and they joke that they used to be from the same country.
@novize: I thought that ramona only wanted to go on vacation at the end of this month. Apparently I was off.
And come to think of it, Andrea and Jan atold me that they wanted to go home for a few weeks as well.
OK, so if have to describe a few other girls for carpediem:
How about Mickey? She is from Rumania, has also very long black hair, has a very small diamond stud on the left upper lip. My experience with her was actually even slightly better than with Ramona in my back-to-back test drive a couple of weeks ago. She also hangs in Rumania-central, the back left set of couches, if you are sitting at the bar and look into the wintergarten.
Or Lana and Rachel. They are both Germans, almost always hand out together, and typically wear high stockings or long black boots. They are bi, and if you are looking for a threesome, they are a good bet. Rachel has dark-red to black hair that is a bit longer than shoulder-length, and Lana has very dark brown hair that she wears pulled back in a pony tail. Often both of them wear some kind of choker tight around their necks. Lana is only a bit older than 20, while Rachel is pushing 30.
Or perhaps Georgia. She seems to be the leader of the Rumanian group and used to have darkish bold hair that she typically wear pulled back. In another forum I saw a post that she now switched to red hair. So who knows. But here is how you recognized her: She typically wears flat sandals, as opposed to just about everybody else, who wears very uncomfortable high heel shoes. Well, at least in the Rumanian hang-out she seems to be the only one with her own taste in footwear.
Nadja is a German who does not look the part at all. She is very tall, with black hair, and coffee brown skin. She looks very young and is also only 20. She has a real classic beaty body shape. Black hair, bright white perfect teeth. She hangs with another German (darn, I forgot her name). That girl is also very tall, just like Nadja. They also try to sell threesomes, and their offer I have never taken. But I gave Nadja a testdrive. She likes to go at it hard, and I mean HARD. So if you are into a sporty number, she is the ticket.
Have fun, and often
euro
Andrea was on duty yesterday. Sorry for the wrong information I posted yesterday.
Have fun,
Novize
"Or perhaps Georgia. She seems to be the leader of the Rumanian group and used to have darkish bold hair that she typically wear pulled back. In another forum I saw a post that she now switched to red hair. So who knows. But here is how you recognized her: She typically wears flat sandals, as opposed to just about everybody else, who wears very uncomfortable high heel shoes. Well, at least in the Rumanian hang-out she seems to be the only one with her own taste in footwear."
Georgia has been on a "Heels-strike" since she returned from her vacation. She is pretty "eigenwillig" but I'm bet that she will be back in pumps eventually. I would second Euro's recommendation. Georgia is a real sweetheart and, IMHO one of the top five at World.
Dedalus' "Top Five at FKKW" List
5. Ramona
4. Olga
3. Georgia
2. Andrea (Czech)
1. Daniela
Of course, this may change with my next visit.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Some girls at World were surprised, when I visited the club yesterday. Is it sunday already? It wasn´t but I was allowed to stay anyway...
The subject of my adoration had left the club for vacation already, so I had to look out for one or more substitutes. So I placed myself on one of the Casting-Couches and waited for applicants.
First applicant: Jeanette. Disqualified herself in 0.5 sentences, which is new German record. Just not my pair of shoes.
Second applicant: Destiny. Didn´t need longer.
Third applicant: Claudia. Wouldn´t have needed more than 0.5 sentences to qualify. Unfortunately she was busy elsewhere. A pity, but no problem. .Tthe evening was still young.
Fourth applicant: Alena Eyeflirting over a 10 m - distance. Not easy, because the lightning was poor. It was fun anyway. At least for me. The old game: who moves first? Not me, I´m the unbeaten champion in couch-potatoeing.
So it was hers to move over to me. She started complaining I wouldn´t have greeted her on my arrival. Right she was, but she didn´t greet me either. OK, taht´s a weak argument. But what ideas can come up with a woman like Alena on ones lap? Only indecent ones. That´s the way it should be, isn´t it? She didn´t have much time for me, either. See you later, Alligator.
After a while, Crocodile. Alena lolls around on one of the seats in the upper hall, while I´m sitting at the bar drinking some water. Who moves? Remember, I´m the champ of CP. So it´s her again. She places herself between my legs. A great place, as I think. Indecent thoughts again. But I won´t ask for a room. One has to play the game. Kissing. fondling. Smoking. Drinking. Talking. Teasing. Kissing. Fondling, Drinking... It could have gone this way until the end of time...
But before Alena suffers a dizzy spell and has to lay down somewhere. Being a Gentleman, I´m willing to help her finding a suitable location. WE find an empty room in the VIP-area. I strongly feel that it would be a mistake to leave her alone right now, so I stay (btw, Novize jr. was standing, too) We pamper each other. Kissing. Fondling. More...
I like Alenas body. The small hairs on her back. The tiny breasts. Her nose. Her labia. She tastes good. We change roles. I don´t have any idea what she likes at me (except for the content of my wallet) but I like the effort she makes to pleas Novize jr. And her look in the mirror. She interrupts, takes out a condom and mounts it with her mouth. Usually I don´t like that. The kisses taste awful afterwards. But this time I don´t care. I penetrate her missionary. I don´t want another position, I like here eyes, too...
At the end we agree on a replay.
And I don´t have to wait for it too long. I´m relaxing at the indoor-pool and watching the girls parading on their way to the Relaxzone (it must hbe very slow upstairs), when Alena appears. Eyeflierting agaien. She comes over, but stops after having done the half way. Remember? I´m the champ of CP. So she has to go the rest of the way, too. Talking. Kissing.. Fondling. Teasing. Smoking. Drinking. Life can be so wonderful. Fondling. Kissing, Teasing. Talking. Standing up. Walking to a room. Laying down. Fondling. Kissing. Interdourse.
Relaxing. Ma favourite technique is to wrap myself in towels laying on one of the couches in the Relaxzone and rtrying not to snore too loudly. Dreaming. the children will come tomorrow over the schol holidays. But before that...
...I get waked up. Alena for the third round. What can I write? Kissing. Fondling. Anjoying. On the couch first, later in the room.
Showering. Drinking coffee, with Alena in my arms. It´s good that World will close for the night soon. You shall stop at the top.
Alena goes dressing. Me, too. I´m quicker and watch the girls leaving the club. Dressed they look taht good, that I would be happy to undress them again immediatedly. A parting kiss from Alena.
Summer break.
More objective, the stats:
Name: Alena
Origin: Bulgaria
Year of birth: ~ 1984
Hairs: black, straight, shoulder-length (enhanced)
Figur: slim, A.breasts
Height: approx.. 1,70 m
Tattoos/Piercings: none
Other:
Could some experienced monger tell me about the latinas at FKKW?
I'm due a visit to fra in the next month and im thirsty for latinas, Brasilian Colombian, Spainish etc.
Please help a fellow monger. Give me names if possible and details!
Cheers
Thanks Novize, Euro, - appreciate additional info. Made my first visit to World even more interesting. For me, a new-bee to the FKK's, the place is amazing... only problem is that now I don't feel like anymore like writing my report re last week visitits to Flamingo, but I'll be a good member and post that as well at appropriate forum.
So, the world, - wow. I saw some posts that the girls and not good looking there. Well, now I'm really curious to visit some other places to see if that's possible. I found the collection of ladies in the world rather amazing.
After arrival I got some input and directions from friendly German guy who new pretty much everybody over there. Combo of the postings here, his recommendation, and my own taste directed me pretty quickly towards Alena (see earlier Novize post for description) who definitely didn't dissapoint.
Very nice session! I love the rooms with mirrors.
Before her, Andrea and Mickey and some other girls were attacking but I passed. Now after the first session and some food and relaxing I would have tried Andrea but couldn't find her anymore. So I figured that I would avoid tall Romanian with short red hair (forgot the name) who was rather pushy and try something else. Somehow that happened to be
Zara, french - persian (?)
dark hair
175cm or so
Full figure, natural C breasts
no tattoos
big black eyes
Who was kind of different from the rest of the crowd, more quite in some
feminine way which attracted me. It was pretty nice session although she is not really GFE type. Had a nice conversation with her afterwards. Good experience.
Btw, the ratio girls/customers was about 3 to 1 Friday eve. Very nice. Saturday is a party over there so it'll be different I would imagine, but I don't see myself resisting another visit!
@carpediem: see, it's like we said - you will quickly find your own favorites. But with Andrea you have to be quick. You may only get one chance per evening. That's because eventually some selfish monger will book her for two hours straight and take her out of circulation for a long period. (I am one of these selfish jerks on occasion ;) ) I would guess that the fraction of time spent in the public areas is the smallest of all girls for Andrea.
@jasss: please see my description of Viagra in one of my recent posts. She qualifies as latina. Oh boy, does she ever ... :) :) There are a few other girls from Brazil, but I have never sampled them.
euro
Hello all,
I'd appreciate it if some of you could give me some information on how to get to FKK WORLD from Frankfurt - by TRAIN, and then by TAXI. I expect to get off at Giessen - but then what? Where can I call a cab? And how much is a one-way ride to OASE from the Giessen train station? As long as it isn't over 20-25 Euros I'll be satisfied.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Bruce
C'mon Bruce, RTFF. Its all there
Chivaz
Message 535 if I remember rightly gives some info re World. Taxis are right outside the station - no need to cal one. Cost 17E for 15 minute journey
Info re Oase under that thread
Giessen is probably too far from Oase for taxi.Get a train to the stations mentioned under the Oase thread then a taxi
Use the search fer cryin' out loud.
Also, if you come from the US, have a driver's license and drive fairly frequently, let me encourage you that driving in Germany isn't much different. For me it was just a matter of observing the ever changing posted limits with care, observing extreme lane discipline on the autobahn and getting used to 1,000 roundabouts, none of which we have in California.
Get a rental with GPS and fork out the 400 euros you might spend for the car plus gas for a week. I wouldn't trade the flexibility to come and go as you please, not have to stress over when the public transports will stop, stay in any hotel within a 10 km radius of your destination(s) you desire and the freedom to move on from club to club (when there's nobody you fancy, overcrowded, bad vibes, etc.)... is worth any amount of money I might have saved using other means of transportation.
Besides that, other than the Palace and a couple of other places I like to go in Koln and Dusseldorf, none of the other clubs are located near the city center anyways. So for the most part you're avoiding bumper-to-bumper traffic.
Aside from saving money (and I'm not that convinced that it saves you that much money) and fear of driving, can anybody tell me why you'd bother to rely on buses, trains and taxis? Since the advent of GPS equipped rental cars practically removed the chances of getting lost, I can't think of any other reason. Don't you hate it when you have to walk an extra 100 meters when the parking lot is full? ;)
FL
Rental cars do not have to be so expensive. Go to sixti.com and see their rates. If you rent a Smart (OK, it's very small, but hey), you can get rental fees as low as 5 euro per day. Often I rent for a weekend and pay less than 12 euros for the two days, including all fees and taxes. The Smart has a diesel engine that is very efficient. So cost for gas is less per km than in the US.
You do not need GPS. Go to a web site and print out driving directions.
euro
I agree, getting a rental car is the way to go. Do some homework, download and study some maps, write down the excellent directions posted here, use the map24 website to help plot your route. You can't beat the flexibility of not having to depend on almost non-existent public transport in the wee hours of the morning or even leaving and then coming back. And German highways and signage are amongst the best in the world if not the best.
I definitely agree that having a car helps a lot. I used GPS for the first time, and I was impressed with how helpful it is. Reading maps is not a big deal, but when you find yourself in the middle of a night in a weird area, it is really nice not having to think too much. It costed me only additional 5euro per day (togehter with car upgrade from national), and it was definitely worth it. Not to mention real time traffic information which probably saved me quite some time in traffic jamms.
CD
Here is one more report from the World. Saturday was a party there, so figured I better visit Oaze; there is a report about that visit in appropriate forum. My last day in Deutchland was on Monday and I got to the World about 9:30pm.
The place looked devoted from quite some girls I saw there on Friday, and I got a bit worried that this could be one quite boring evening. To my surprise, in about 5min famous Andrea appeared with her cute little smale directed in my direction and apparently nothing to do. I figured that I didn't want to pass on this and smiled back. I couldn't resist a little experiment since she wasn't sure if she remembered me or not. So I pushed her to decide if we had sex or not (we didn't). She said yes however (of course, it's safer), but than later, to my surprise she remembered our conversation from Friday... looks like a selective memory to me. Anyway, the session was great, as advertised and I had a very good time. The difference between her and other girls is that she appears much more personal and willing to `connect' on some level. Good luck, Andrea.
At some point I started looking around for the round two, and that took some time since there wasn't a clear winner. I was tempted to repeat either Alena or Andrea, but decided to be original and went for Alex, Romanian/Greek girl who also has chinese tattoos on her lower back (there was another girl mentioned with similar tattoos in the forum). She was after me very aggressively on Friday so I figured I would check what was that all about.
Well, she is a very cute girl, but the session wasn't terribly exciting. Nice bbbj, and long lively sex afterwards. She likes watching herself in mirror while having sex, and that made two of us. Fun.
Alex
Height: 170-75cm or so
Hair: red, short
Slim figure, nice but, A chest
Cute face
Tattoos: chinese characters on lover back
Oh, btw, I repeated my little experiment regarding having sex with Alex. Same outcome. Maybe I start a new research project :)
Carpediem,
I have made this experience many times. Most of the girls have absolutely no way of remebering us. The numbers are just too much stacked against them: If the do 5-10 men a day/night for 20 days a months, for 10 months a year, that makes between one and two thousand guys they sleep with. And then there are the guys that they approach but end up not having sex with ...
I am sure that they remember their regular customers. Andrea, for example, remembers me, my name, and other details I have told her about me. But I have had more than 10 sessions with her over the last two years. On the other hand, if you are not a regular, how are they ever going to know if they had had sex with you? That would mean that they remember every one of their sex partners. Impossible.
I don't know how many providers I have had. But I would say not more than one or two hundred. And for the life of me I cannot remember them all. With most girls I can immediately rule out that I have slept with them, simply because they are not my type, and since I pay I get to pick. With an attractive girl that falls into my desired bracket, however, I cannot be sure that I have not popped her sometime in the past. But the girls do not follow their tastes in the selection process, mainly the money. And so they are at a disadvantage.
The fact that the girls do not remember us is, by and large, to our advantage.
euro
Euro,
Sure, I understand. What surprised me more was that the girls remembered the conversation that was two-three days old, even my name, but not (possibly) the sex itself. That makes me think that they in some way switch their brains off as soon as the `preliminaries' are concluded.
Sure, it is different for repeated customers.
Good luck, cd
Euro100,
I'm not so sure I agree. Working girls who can remember clients have a huge advantage in this business, and I've met some who seem as dumb as a rock (sorry, but it's true) BUT have incredible memories for individuals anyway. I guess like all things human, there is lots of individual variation. For me, I tend to stratigize as if there is always a moderately good chance any gal will remember me even the 2nd time I see her.
Finally I get a chance to return World! I'll be there on the 6th and 16th of August if any of you fellow mongerers are around. It'll be good to be back and my first chance to check out the place in the summer. Incredibly disappointed that Ramona is gone :
Novice, I can't believe you let her leave! On the other hand, there seems to be a rather nice stable of new talent so perhaps I'll find a new fave.
Cheerio,
Boka
Have been to World and Oase a couple of times. Will be in Frankfurt for one night Aug 16 and was thinking of going to Palace. could anyone tell me what it is like, sizewise,girls, pool, jacuzi,ect any info would be of much help.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Irish Pussy]Have been to World and Oase a couple of times. Will be in Frankfurt for one night Aug 16 and was thinking of going to Palace. could anyone tell me what it is like, sizewise,girls, pool, jacuzi,ect any info would be of much help.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Hello ,
I was in Palace in july. Palace is smaller than Oase and the pool was out of order.
There are no garden all is inside.
There were about 15-20 girls as I remeber, maybe more.
I had a good time and the girls were friendly.
Entrance fee is rised to 65 EU and 50EU for 30 minutes.
I have been to Oase many times, but Monday will be my first trip to World.
I'll arrive at FRA mid-morning, take a quick nap, and hope to arrive a tWorld mid-afternoon.
Anyone who wants to join me at World, send me a PM.
I have decided to try World based on all the great posts in the past couple weeks!
I'll post my report when I return.
I'm going to be in Frankfurt on the 4th for the day. Anyone interested in meeting up to go to World or Palace msg me!
World, Sunday 08/07,
I am not sure what it is, but compared to Oase, World just doesn´t cut it for me anymore. First, I was a bit frustated that I was not able to find Cordelia (maybe she wasn´t working that day?) and then the overall atmosphere at World is just not right for me. Sure, the facilities: amazing, tasteful, clean etc. etc. Although I only have the possibility to visit twice per year on my trips to Germany, FKKW is always a little "cold" (The weather didn´t help either: Shitty 70 F, cloudy, rain, terrible, no outdoor pleasures at all.)
I had two sessions, both with the two black girls from Jamaica, one is Denstiny, the other I forgot. Nice, not at all DFE, but also nothing to write home about. Denstiny tried to go for a full hour, but I was not turned on by her whatsoever. But is was OK. After using the sauna twice, I left early at seven p.m., typically I stay at Oase at least until midnight.
But again, maybe it´s just me. (When I´m back in the US, I really know what I miss!)
Hi Frankfurter- sorry you missed C - she has been there since Thursday. She was very busy on Saturday and quite busy on Sunday (was that the day you were there?) so maybe that's why you missed her? Hope your next visit (having to wait for 6 months is bad!) works out better
I know some members have been asking about the shuttle. Well Peter (whio is far more knowledgeable than I has mentioned this in passing on a report he did on the Oase thread. I thought it worth putting on this thread
"Regarding accessability of World (Which I agree is too sterile) in the Bild it says that have an hourly free shuttle from the ADAC Messe Building in Frankfurt out to the club from 9pm until 1am with a number to call 0160-6770206 so that might solve some people transport problems"
Once again, thanks to Peter for the information
Hello
I will be in Frankfurt from 19-22 August and I plan to visit World.
It's my first time to World (I've only been to Palace once, in April) and would like to meet with other mongers if possible. I also plan to visit Oase durring my stay.
I will have a car rented so i can also assure transportation from Frankfurt.
Contact me on private.
Niky
Sounds alot like the "Space Shuttle",, LOL! Great info for the general public but I think most of us like to get there around shift change to see all the girls.
I would reccomend Novize as the driver":-)
Do they shuttle back as well?
the Space Shuttle is grounded indefinitely ...
Let's hope the World Shuttle does better. But the sex in FKKW sometimes does get do hot that the heat shield tiles could be melting ;)
euro
Euro,
FYI, Eva (Denmark?) was at World a few Saturdays ago.
Happy hunting,
Dedalus
Went to World for the first time ever on July 31. Much to my pleasure, I cannot say I'm a newbie to the FKK scene. I have known them all, in and around Frankfurt: Atlantis (how much I still miss his one), Oase, Palace, Südfass...
The Club is set in very nice surroundings. Only a bit far away from Fankfurt: some 65 km (50 miles) from the Airport. Unless you know your bearings or use a GPS (which was my case), I strongly advise boardmembers against going there solo. Not impossible to find, but not an easy shot either.
There were some 20 girls on that particular Sunday afternoon. Most of them Romanians and South Americans. All Romanians try to pretend they're from somewhere else, just to make an easier sales pitch, as one of them told me.
Had a go at 1 Romanian, name Alicia, in her mid twenties. She spoke fluent Spanish after 2 years in Spain (doing the Clubs, I suppose), so communication was without a problem. She was nice and caring, and took her time, but nothing to write home about. A 6/10 experience
Then I met a Cuban (name I forgot), petite, baby face, curly hair. She won me over with her face, and I quickly forgot past bad experiences with girls of that nationality. This one was no exception. Despite the fact that there was no language barrier, she rushed me to the room and finished me in no time. Not that I didn't notice clearly what her intentions were once we were in the room, but I simply preferred to let her carry on, finish asap and blame it on my lack of judgement when in these situations.
For information, many Cuban girls you find in these clubs are divorcees from German Guys that met them when on holidays there. Once they're happily married and with a Passport or Residence permit in their pocket, their affection for their loved one tends to decrease. Some of them resort to doing the Clubs, as I have had the occassion to find out during the years.
All in all a good Club, some talent, and as always, YMMV.
Have fun.
Dedalus,
Yes, Eva is now at FKKW on very rare occasions. She definitely adds to the World collection of stars. Eva is only a provider on the days she feels like it. She has a regular job in FFM, and only goes to the FKK scene as a hobby and for some extra cash.
But thanks for thinking of me and reporting on her presence. Eva, Jana, and Andrea are my three all-time favorites. I'll be back on Spetember 3 for an all-day-all-night mongering session, and I am already counting the minutes until then.:)
euro
She seems to be in a mode where she likes to work on Saturdays. I saw her about 4 or 5 weeks ago at Oase and the last few Saturdays she has been at World. She told me that she was pretty happy at World but who knows where a girl like that will be a month from now.
Cheers,
Dedalus, who is always on the watch for that Danish delight.
Does anyone know the present location of a Polish provider named "Cora" who used to work at Atlantis? Black Hair, middle aged, very talented.
She found another club after Atlantis closed.
Thanks,
Mahaba
I was with three friends at FKK World on the 1:st of August. I was with one Romanian and one Hugarian girl and my friends each had two Romanians. We have been mongering for six years primarily in German FKK:s but also a lot in Prag and Brno. During this time none of us has caught any diseases wich is good since we are all married. 10 days afterwards one of my friends was diagnosed withg gonorreaha wich will probably cost him his marriage. Therew is no possibillity that he could have caught it anywere else.
I want to warn everybody about visiting FKK World due to the fact that they do not seem to control their girls. I will personally stop with OWO because the gonorreaha bacteria transmits through the mouth although the women show no symptoms. There is no way to spot it. I have always enjoyed OWO but now I see that it is to risky.
G Schyman
[QUOTE=G Schyman]I want to warn everybody about visiting FKK World due to the fact that they do not seem to control their girls.[/QUOTE]
That´s [B]bullshit!!![/B]
The girls get tested regularly.
The incubation time for gonorrhoea is 2-8 days. Most probably she was infected by another monger - we guys don´t need a test to get entrance at World.
It would have been more useful to call the club and inform them and the girl. But therefore one has to remember the girls´ "stage name"...
Schyman:
I KNOW that the girls in FKKW have to get regular tests for STDs. FKKW even has a regular doc, who they send their girls to in order to get tested.
But of course that does not guarantee that you cannot get infected. Gono is pretty much impossible to spot during its incubation period. So neither the girl not the club probably knew what the deal was. Since it is pretty easy to cure with an antibiotic treatment, you can be sure that she would have taken care of this problem, if she had known about it.
But this is the sad truth about STDs: anytime you monger, you throw the dice. There is nothing you can do about it, and you just have to accept the risk or give up the hobby. The girl you are DFK-ing may have had another guy jerk off in her mouth just minutes before. And chances are she did not rinse with mouthwash in between.
What actually blows my mind is how little STD transmission actually occurs at FKKs. As Novize correctly points out, none of the mongers get tested upon entry, and since many of us enjoy the hobby in different places with several providers in the same week, STDs could get spread rapidly through the entire FKK-system. The fact that the infection rate is so low is stunning to me. (I don't need to take a poll here and find out how many of us got infected, I just need to average over the fairly large number of my own encounters.)
euro
Euro,
A year or so I had a condom break at World. I went to the front desk and asked them what their policy on testing was. They said that they have nothing to do with it; that it is up to the girl to get tested and I should talk to her about it. This is what one person told me, so it might have been wrong, but it was a woman who I had seen working the desk several times over many months, so it was not a new employee who didn't know anything.
Novize, Euro and Catalyst;
I agree with all of you. Of course there is a risk with DFK, DATY and OWO. I have been in the FKK scene for over six years so I have taken the chance but now I see what the consequences could be. Even if FKKW test the girls some monger could have given it to her. It is for sure uncommon and I have never caught anything. I live in Sweden where after you get diagnosed the goverment do a tracing which includes all your sexual partners. I'm not afraid about cathing it but if I do my wife will, just as the case with my collegue, for sure find out.
I will not give up the hobby but I will do everything protected in the future.
Regards
World organized the possibility for teh girls to get tested regularly. But according to german law they may not force the girls to get tested. So, even if they force the girls to get tested (for example they could denie a girl to enter the club without showing an actual test), they will not talk about that.
In this issue (as in many others)you have to understand the club´s answers before the background of german law.
Have fun,
Novize
[QUOTE=G Schyman]I will not give up the hobby but I will do everything protected in the future. [/QUOTE]
G. Shyman,
That´s OK, you may do whatever you want.
But I think you should be more cautious with the warnings you give.
Have fun,
Novize
I was @ world 2 days ago, i had 2 nice session
Camilla 23 turkish, black hair, small titts, but nice firm body, she provided one of the best GFE i ever had, deep fk, daty, bbbj, sex, and much much more....
Lana 21 German (i'm not sure about her name), black hair, green eyes, she told me she is one of the only 3 german girl @ world nowadays, she also gave me a nice gfe.
I'll come back @ world in mid september
see ya
how backward is sweden that they still have gonnorhea on the index?
it has been off the german index for 20 years. only indexed diseases like syphillis and aids are on the index where all your sexual partners are informed.
i picked up g. from a working girl in babylon once. my incubation time was only 3 days, which was sort of lucky. i went to a doctor who could not take a swab test because i had already urinated. i decided i did not want an actual diagnosis on my record, just the treatment. i told him i got a bj from a girl at carnival. he said it can be spread from bbbj through the throat (not the mouth). i got a 10 day cycle of cipro and it was gone.
i avoided sex for those 10 days, and used a condom for another 5 with my gf and all was ok.
i am amazed that they go tracing for such a easily treated disease. at least the versions in europe are easily treated, some of the thai strains are really tough to fight. one reason i don't monger in sea.
and it is called bbbj not owo, i couldn't figure out what you were talking about.
after that incident i had only covered bj's for about 4 months, and then fear gave way to pleasure.
Maybe a little late to add to the comments. But I want to stress that World does everything it reasonably can, within German law, to ensure that the girls are free from disease (and also do not cheat customers). The confusion from the answer given by reception to Schymann is that the club can in no way legally force the girls to get tested since the girls are all pay-by-the-day guests in legal terms. If the Club forced all "guests" to get tested then they would need to force the men guests to be tested!! However as Novize and Euro have already said, the Club makes real efforts to minimise the working by women with an infection. So I am sure there is no need for a warning against World, which is trying hard to maintain standards and legality (after all the warning from Altlantis is never far from anyone's mind)
Peter - OWO is not recognised officially on this forum but is the term for BBBJ used on English English language forums - hence the confusion
Recently spent several days at World. One of the events was meeting a German national who was searching for Jana, who along with the Czech contingent was not currently at World. I offered to post on this forum his request for any info on the wherabouts of Jana, the object of his intentions.
Similarly if anybody comes across Andrea anywhere I would be very happy to hear. Cordelia and I spent two days in her home city, with me creating a pastiche parody of Kafka and Kundera, always on the lookout for the wandering Andrea. But of course no chance meeting happened, so I was happy to experience the city which has sprung to life from the prison camp atmosphere of my last visit just before the end of Soviet occupation
Hey Shiatsu,
Prague is one of my all time favorite Cities.. Spent three consecutive nights at K-5 a couple of years ago and then trained to Frankfurt en route to my maiden voyage to World where I met you and Isseu.
Some of the most beautiful women on earth, along with some fine beer and History.
Na shladanou
Hi,
As most regulars on this board know, Jana and Andrea are two of my all-time favorites. They also happen to be room mates while living in Germany. Andrea is from Prag, and Jana from a medium-sized city in Slovakia, not far from Bratislava. They are both in their home countries right now, for a scheduled month-long vacation. I am hoping that they will be back at the beginning of September, which is when I will be having my next FKKW romp.
happy mongering (although it would be happier with J & A at FKKW ....)
euro
Time for some reports, so here goes:
Arrived at World late afternoon on Friday. The selection was quite good, but often been better. After undressing and showering I walk right into the arms of Daniela. I have reported on her before and no need to repeat the details, but the session was 1 hour ala Daniela, although the act was a bit more artificial this time, but still all good. Daniela has put on some weight but is still quite firm.
Second round was with Larissa from Romania. She started flirting from the sofa as I was having dinner. I did not give in right away, but after about 20 minutes of her act I surrendered. Larissa is very beautiful, dark long frizzy hair, nice body, soft C cup breasts. Started by doing only LFK but as the session went on, it evolved into DFK and a good GFE. Her bj technique could use some improving. She is nice company after the session as well. Discussion after the session indicates YMMV on her.
Third round was with a girl I have not seen before at World. Her name is Rebecca and is from Romania. I had been admiring her for quite some time before I decided to have a go. Her body, specially her breasts, is great. Perfect symmetry is the best way to describe her. She has long brown hair with some slight red tones. Pretty face. She told me she had been there for 2 weeks, and I found her performance to be quite unexperienced.
On closer examination, I found her red spots around her pussy to be a bit alarming. Might be razor rash, but decided to be extra careful, so no daty or anything like that. She was a bit distant during the session, but her great body partly made up for it. Would not repeat though.
Sandra (formerly Eva at Oase) was around. Friend went with her for 1 1/2 hour plus, and gave her top marks (as most do who session with her). It is nice to watch her walk around, she has these slow graceful moves, quite a sexy lady.
Only dissapointment was that neither Andrea or Jana were present.
I found World to be lacking a buzz this Friday. I guess it depends a bit on my own mood. Sometimes I like it quiet and relaxing, but sometimes I like a little more buzz and action. This weekend, Oase was much better. More about that in the Oase section.
Chivaz
Decided to head for World on Sunday as the weather was quite nice. Arrived around 3 pm. The lady at the front desk explained that there were very few girls inside but more arrivals were expected later. I did not catch the explanation for this (all in German). Good customer service warning you up front before you pay the entrance. We decided to go ahead anyway, how bad could it really be. Well, it turned out to be quite bad. There were no more than 5 girls around (all the rooms were empty as well), and these 5 girls were not among the good looking ones you will find at World. At this time, Betty from Cuba was by far the best looking one in attendance. There were already around 20 men and increasing every hour.
Luckily, we had some stuff to read, so we lounged by the pool for the next couple of hours in the nice weather. At 5pm they started serving food from the outside grill.
We decided to give it a go until 8pm, and if things would not shape up, we would leave and spend the rest of the night at Oase. As it turned out, things did not shape up much (although Daniela and Larissa did show up late afternoon), but we were still able to have one good session each before heading to Oase (which had excellent selection). Around 7pm, I would guess the ratio was 4/1, and not in our favour.
The good news is that I had an excellent long session with Natascha from Romania. I asked her about the lack of girls and she told me there were only 8 Romanian girls at World, the rest had gone on vacation. Fellow punter went with Daniela who gave similar reason for the lack of girls and there would be very slow next couple of days in terms of girl selection. Do any of you guys know what happened? I find it hard to believe that 30 Romanian girls are going on vacation together. Maybe they all arrived in a single transaction 3 months ago and need to get out and in again because of the 3 month visa thing?
Anyways, more on Natascha: She is blond, medium length hair, slim body, aprox. 170 cm. Very nice b/c cup breasts. The session turned out to be very good on the GFE scale. She is very hygenic, does not allow CIM and during our conversation I found out that she will probably not be able to give you a good session if you dont smell like you are fresh out of the shower.
Did a long session with Natascha with two pops and offered to go clean up in between as at that time I knew she did not do CIM and guessed she would not like the "post ejaculated dick from a condom" kind of taste. This gesture was wery well received and the second session turned out to be even better. Will definetly repeat.
As I mentioned, a fellow punter had a session with Daniela and it took him quite some time to recover. Whatever your preferences are, session with Daniela is something everyone has to try at least once.
At 8pm we decided to leave for Oase. Only 30 minute drive at this hour of the day so we did not loose much valuable sex time :-)
Chivaz
I should have done my homework. I did not read the forums before visiting my favorite FKK. I know August is holidays, but I thought that it was near the end so I visited on Monday. I managed to hook up with some customers at the door for the 3-for-2. What a beautiful, warm summer day in Deutschland! Surely, the outdoors would be packed with girls and customers. Well, there were enough customers, but girls...
I changed and went straight away to the food as it was supper time (1830). Ok, there was a table of 3 girls, not the best, but somewhat average. Surely this should be the peak time with the day shift and night shift girls overlapping. Where were the rest of the girls? Maybe in the rooms. No, they were all unoccupied. As 2100 approached, fear began to sink in as I realized that 15 or so girls that were there were it.
Surely, I can't go wrong with the Rumanian gang so I cornered Vanessa, an attractive brunette spinner, coming out of her locker room. Unusual, because normally, the girls are more aggressive and corner me, but today, no girls were approaching anyone. She spoke passable english and took me straight to a room against my judgement. Couch action is a good indicator of a possible connection but I did not have the advantage of getting this advanced information. Having only been there for a week, Vanessa was...inexperienced would be the best word. Her lack of English did not allow me to help guide her and I was left with an unsatisfying session.
Later, I met Nia? sitting against the wall near the women's locker room. With jaw-length light brown hair, c-cup breasts, strong jaw, she was attractive and after some talk, we proceeded downstairs. Unlike Vanessa's short BBJ, Nia spent quite a bit of time BBJ and seemed to enjoy DATY, moving her hips to get the most feeling. The session proceeded quite well, though not quite having recovered fully from the previous session, I was kaput. She was somewhat embarassed, but I assured her it was ok as I did have quite a time. Her DFK could use some improvement.
Having showered and relaxed, Lisa approached me on the couch. She was quite friendly, with long, curly hair, b-cups, and a nice smile, but I was in no shape for a room just yet, but I assured her I would find her later. I did, but I should not have. By this time she was tired and it showed. She rebuffed my DATy and basically I finished the mechanical session early, realizing I was not having a good time.
In all, I would say it was the worst time at World by far. Perhaps now that the holidays are over, it will pick up and my favorite Andrea as well as Betty and the rest of our favorites will come back.
Hi 22acacia,
I feel for you man, the girls told me on Sunday that Monday would be very bad as well in terms of selection. That along with a session with Vanessa is as bad as it gets. I had a session with her in June and would rank it as the worst session ever at World.
I was told that things would pick up again on Tuesday/Wednesday. Would be interesting to hear if it is so.
Oase is rocking right now compared to World
Chivaz
I share some of the feelings of recent reports. I recently was at FKKW for three days and although there were at that time large numbers of girls, most of them to my mind did not count. Well over half of the girls were fairly new Rumanian recruits, who seemed to have varied pick up techniques like wearing towels while talking to men, scowling, laughing behind men's backs, congregating in groups ignoring the men, breaking off in mid pick up to talk to their girlfriends, and offering no couch action at all (oh, nearly forgot, and picking their noses) Their lack of experience and commitment was palpable.
I did have sessions but really don't see any point on reporting on them - they were much of a muchness. And I'm not sure that spending 50Euros each time to help a girl come is what I want (good tho' it might be for my ego!)
Thank goodness for the many independent girls (including all the black girls) who were doing a good job of picking up men and as a result lightening the atmosphere. If at World I would suggest ignoring the new young Rumanians and going for some more experienced providers
Peter,
I agree that Sweden is very backwards and and is nowdays when it comes to our hobby more conservative than the bible belt in the US.
In Sweden all STD's are indexed. I understand OWO as Oral With Out a synomym to BBBJ. Ofcourse it is te throat and not the mouth were the bacteria reside.
My collegue has gotten the Asia-variant which is extremly unusal in Europe, must have been some mongerer that recently were in SE-Asia because the girl was from Rumania. I felt very safe in FKK's before this but now it is dangerous for us married men.
G Schyman
Prostitution has been illegal in Sweden for a very long time. Still Swedish women on average are gorgeous, and Stockholm ranks among the best cities in the world to meet women. I would say Copenhagen is the best Scandinavian city for pay for play. Still its far more expensive than Germany. And even in Germany, FKKs are primarily found in the NRW region and Frankfurt, with a handful in Bavaria in other German locales. Hamburg had a scene as vibrant as Amsterdam, it is completely dead for this activity these days. The sticking point for me is that the best women in German clubs are almost always from EE or former Soviet republics.
At World there is a wide range of ethnicity - Jamaica, Brazil, Spain, France, England etc as well as eastern European. The point I tried to make in the recent report was that, with the current lineup, the best service is likely to come from the independent, committed providers , and not from the mass of new, young Rumanian girls (note - I donot mean the Rumanian girls who have been workingthere for some time).
I saw the one nationality of woman that I hate the most, the American female, at Atlantis. She looked go for an American woman but had the typical cold attitude of one. On the American Women thread there are thousands of posts, mostly by American males like myself, talking about the horror stories of American women oops I meant whales.
CGGB Copenhagen is not the best place for paid sex, it is Finland. Denmark is too expensive. In Hamburg they have Club Atmos, which is on the same level as world/oase/palace just with less girls. Sweden is the most politcal correct pusssy whipped nation in the world.Sweden is controlled by lesbian sex negative bitchesm, If you are looking for good sex stay out of Scandinavia and go to Germany.
[QUOTE=22acacia]Surely, I can't go wrong with the Rumanian gang so I cornered Vanessa, an attractive brunette spinner, coming out of her locker room. Unusual, because normally, the girls are more aggressive and corner me, but today, no girls were approaching anyone. She spoke passable english and took me straight to a room against my judgement. Couch action is a good indicator of a possible connection but I did not have the advantage of getting this advanced information. Having only been there for a week, Vanessa was...inexperienced would be the best word. Her lack of English did not allow me to help guide her and I was left with an unsatisfying session.[/QUOTE]I had the bad luck of a session with Vanessa on Sunday and totally agree. She was totally unexperienced and yet completely professional in offering her sex like a menu in a restaurant. Her BJ did hurt a lot and when I went for a fuck she just laid down like a brick. After 1 minute of totally unsatisfactory in-and-out I decided to give up and left, without having come. Leaving a girl without having come had not happened to me for ages. But in this case I just thought it completely pointless to come in her. Complaining was pointless too, because she probably thought she had all done by the books (what she did, in fact, unfortunately) and all the time asked me if her service was good. I didnt want to frustrate her and so I paid. Well, she has lots to learn.
Sunday was the worst day I ever experienced at FKKW. Unfortunately, after the bad experience with V. I left FKKW totally frustrated and now I have to read in this thread that just 30 or so minutes after I left Natasha appeared. And Natasha was all the reason I came to FKKW on that sunday in the first place. She has the best service I experienced in ages, her looks are 9-10 and her DFK just totally blew up my brains.
Boys, there are days you just completely want to wipe out of your memory. Sunday was one of those.
Yes, Mat that's exactly the sort of experience I have had with some of the new inexperienced girls. The saddest thing is that some of them no doubt think they have done a good job! However it does not mean the Club is no good -what it means is that it is worth checking out the more experienced girls. Remember that World has a whole host of young girls compared to say Oase - if you mentally delete most of the young girls then the choice becomes more like Oase
My rule of thumb is never go with a girl who does not come back from a room looking like she and her client have had a good time. Watch how they say goodbye at the lockers. If you want to go for a new young girl then see if she is willing to do a bit of kiss and cuddle on the couch. And even then I have made some mistakes
There are lots of good providers at World - the ones who are there more than a few weeks wil be the ones who are either good at sex (or good at selling)
Hi Shiatsu,
I also look at the things going on around paytime, i.e. does the customer look happy, what is the goodbye kiss like etc. which brings me to a "funny" incident at Oase last winter/spring:
Just had finished a session with Marina (yes, the one that gave you crap time few months ago). She was not very GFE like during the session, but IMO her body made up for the lack of GFE. Then when I was paying her, she plants this long wet DFK on me for all to see. It was more DFK than the whole session. She sure knew what she was doing.
22acacia points out that Vanessa has been there only for a week. I think she tells everyone that. She told me that when I went with her around June 15th. so she has been around for at least couple of months.
Chivaz
Well, it really is rather miserable at World at the moment. The amazing thing is that the news obviously doesn’t get around. Or there are an inordinate number of incurable optimists about. Like me.
Wednesday evening: the car park was almost completely full at 6.30 pm. Can be a good sign, can be a bad sign. Entrance, lockers, change, shower, through the magic red curtains, to be faced with a sea of ….. men. OK, the girls are all in the garden, it’s brilliant weather. Out onto the steps with drink in hand. Not a single female in sight. Must all be in the rooms, it’s logical with all these men. Just got to be patient. Through the corridors, down the stairs, scout round the rooms……... worst fears realised: …… more than half empty. Always hard to judge, but I reckon it was a ratio of 10:1.
OK, tighten the towel, back your arse up to the nearest wall, leave no flank exposed, who knows? The locals had a desperate glint to their eyes. Drink, watch, hope, drink. Wait until darkness and hope for reinforcements.
…… You have to imagine my situation, to appreciate the depression I was feeling. An unsatisfactory Tuesday in Oase, which had a very strange atmosphere, compounded by poor choices (not that the overall selection was poor, I just made mistakes), and I didn’t want a repeat for a second night with the same weird-mood women and the same breathless, stifling ambiente. Palace has its own problems, and was dessous night anyway, so I was praying that the Romanian holiday season was finished at World, the trusty providers would have returned now at beginning of September, and it would be Paradise Regained. I really needed a break. I really needed a good sympathetic woman…….
Not a bit of it. Pustekuchen, as the Germans would say. So, I had a choice: leave (as many did gradually), or bunker down and enjoy the facilities. Occasionally I glimpsed a girl. Hey, it was nice, even if she wasn’t. Patterns became clear. The good lookers were in total stress, and the locals in the know had staked out claims in advance. The girls just went from one to another, beckoned, collared, and off to the room again. If you weren’t around, struck off the list. No need to flatter, no need for small talk, and no waste-of-time couch action. If you spoke to any, you needed courage. Most hopefuls were brushed off unceremoniously. Almost all the girls were irritable in the extreme: zickig!
At 8.45 they played a song:
You’re beautiful,
You’re beautiful,
You’re beautiful to me.
I saw your face
In a crowded place
But I won’t see you again.
Someone had a blunt sense of humour. It was a disgrace not to be warned at reception. Even if ultimately I knew the score and was simply too optimistic.
But things can and do change. Fast. Even though by this time I had been in the club for 90 minutes. At one of the small standing bar tables in the middle I suddenly found myself next to Camilla, who had crept up unnoticed with her bag and towel to the next table. Move quickly, Tosc. Camilla is nice. Very nice. Tall, thin, A breasts, black curly hair, beautiful, beautiful face. Turkish from Anatalya. And she’s one for this board too. English only. When I spoke to her in German, she apologized for having none. Told her my native tongue was English, and I got a fantastic smile and an immediate invitation to a couch in the corner. I got the first couch action of the evening, I swear it, and many onlookers…… :-) :-) Well, OK, she got me from 1 to 100 km/hour in about 30 seconds flat with her kissing alone, and we had a brilliant one hour session in the room. (A German guy later agreed (“die war eine Wucht!”) and bought me a beer for the tip). Camilla is there for another month.
Other sessions, yes. But nothing to recommend. Can’t wait for the Autumn season to start.
22Acacia: you mentioned Lisa. I met her too, and I think it’s the same girl (wears $ 1.99 flipflops, not huge stacked heels). She doesn’t accept Daty or 69 because, apparently, she comes so easily and exhausts herself too quickly. Poor thing. Mind you, add on EUR 100 for anal, and she has no qualms about shouting the roof off :-)
So, did anyone try the Mallorca Party on Saturday? I followed the advice of this board and stayed away. Went to Oase instead. Also mixed results - see my report there.
euro
[QUOTE=Euro100]So, did anyone try the Mallorca Party on Saturday? I followed the advice of this board and stayed away.
euro[/QUOTE]
After hearing and reading a good deal intel about FKKW at the moment, I (we) decided to hit Palace instead. Great line-up! I am also curious to hear from anyone who took a chance on Saturday.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Was in Germany two weeks ago and decided to hit FKK World on a Friday evening. I was debating between Oases and World but in the past just found the facilities at World to give it the edge.
I got smart this time and rented a car with navigation. Although I read German and have all of the directions and have been to World several times, finding it is always a bit of an adventure. With the navigation though, it was very easy. Just let the computer guide you. The only caution is that the last 500 meters says you are off the road. I guess the road is too new.
My strategy at a FKK is to always go slow and not make any quick choices. I like to start by taking a leisurely stroll around the place to see who is there. I got there around 4:30 and was pleasantly surprised to see lots of girls and not a lot of guys. Figuring out my choices was made easier by the weather. It was a bit too cool for anyone to be hanging around outside, so all of the girls were inside and accessible.
I am a sucker for looks and youth. I saw what I considered to be the best looking thing there and moved in to talk to her. She was 23, from Romania and said she was new there. She spoke excellent English, claimed to have a university degree. I would easily have rated her as a solid 9. Soon we were joined on the couch by her equally nice friend who also spoke almost perfect English and was just as solid a 9. They claimed to be childhood friends and had told Mama they were vacationing in Spain.
After reading some of the posts here, I was a bit curious as to how such nice looking, presumably well educated girls ended up in a place like World. They claimed they came on their own free will for the money. And they added they enjoyed the sex. They seemed sincere, but who knows.
Anyway, they made the suggestion I take them both. Since this was the first shot of the day, I was a bit reluctant, but in the end I just could not resist. In hindsight I wish I had waited until later or done them seperately. Anyway they were very good. I admit it was indulgence to take them both. But they were good about not rushing me, although being the first shot of the night, it was a bit quicker than I would have liked. Hard to hold back after a long dry spell.
In the end I ended up doing two more sessions, one with another young Romanian, and another with a young Bulgarian. Both were decent and good choices.
In between sessions I managed to strike up a conversation with one of the older women there. At first she told me she was 30, but finally confessed to actually being 38. She had been watching me working the young girls and chastised me for not stick more with my own age, me being on the wrong side of 50. But she was good about it and still talked quite awhile with me even though I made it clear I was not interested in doing a session with her. On my scale she would have barely mustered a 5, but to each his own.
We got to talking about STDs and things there. She told me World does require a monthly health check, but agreed that is a thin line of defense. She was quite upset about the number of girls that do uncovered BJ's. She also claimed that too many girls there would have uncovered intercourse if asked. My experience, which she found hard to believe, is that no one at any FKK in Germany has ever offered me unprotected intercourse. Also that evening, all 4 girls I took used a condom for BJ.
My policy on BJ's is that if the girl wants to use one, I will not protest. If she starts without one, I am willing to run the risk. I do confess that I worry much less when they use one. This is a hobby not without risk and use of the condom does greatly reduce the risk.
It was funny to hear her taking the role of a professional prostitute and complaining how the newer younger girls were unprofessional by doing BBBJ's and even kissing. I am just glad the FKK clubs don't abide by the professional prostitutue rules.
I finally left around midnight. All in all a nice relaxing evening. The ratio was definitely in favor of the guys that night. As a result the girls were not rushing and took their time.
if I remember correctly, the romanian and bulgarian exodus dated August, 27th in the evening. Maybe you have been there the day before?
Have fun,
Novize
Yes, I was there on the 26th. Lots of Romanians around though.
There was one really nice black girl from Panama that I kick myself for not taking at the end.
Overall I thought the selection of women on that particular evening was very good. When I compare World to Oases, I find the biggest difference is more couch action in Oases. The main area in World is just too open, although if you go downstairs, more seems to happen down there.
I did the full deed though in the Kino with the Bulgarian. We never made it to the room. Not sure if anyone was watching, but it was a lot of fun.
You are right Novize, it was probably on the 27th. I was there on the 26th with ok selection and again on the 28th when the place was crap.
Thor: quote "Also that evening, all 4 girls I took used a condom for BJ". This is pretty unusual. In all my FKK sessions (which are getting to be quite many), I have only once had a covered bj. I never ask for it either way, it is just a standard FKK service.
Chivaz
I agree with Chivaz that getting a covered bj is pretty unusual. BBBJ is just so standard in the FKKs, that I really cannot remember ever getting a covered bbbj. My impression is that if you don't specifically ask for covered, you will get it uncovered.
As for the demise of World lately, certain info indicated that the problems in Pohlheim run more deeply than just temporary vacations of girls. We may be in for some serious droughts of talent at World for some time now...unless the management get their shit together and rescue the situation. I sure hope things turn around soon...
Now that I think about, those were the first covered BJ's I had ever received in a FKK. I think it was because all of the girls were young and starting out. And they might have been a bit better educated then most. As much as I prefer BBBJ, adding cover greatly decreases the risk of catching a nasty.
When you consider that some of these girls do as many as a dozen or maybe more guys a night, it only takes one guy with a problem to cause a chain reaction for every one else there. Luckily most of the clients at a FKK are decent guys and would not go there if they thought they had a problem, but it only takes one to screw it up.
Personally I try not to think about it too much. I know this is a hobby with risks. Hence, I don't complain when the girl uses cover for BJ. And afterwards I know I will worry less. Lets all be honest though, after a FKK session, don't we all sort of keep a bit closer watch down there to see if anything crops up.
With the departure of so many of the East European girls there is bound to be a short period while the club finds a new equilibrium
The departure of the girls in no way reflects on the club, which is doing its best to do everything as properly and legally as possible.
If all goes well what should happen is that over a short period there will be new girls coming in who will have no worries about papers etc. These types of workers tend to be the better providers, more experienced and working independently beholden to nobody. A few examples would be Betty, Viagra, Daniella, Stella, Pamela, Destiny, Miracle, Marta, Sharon, Olga, Nadia, Edith, Raquel, (and I would add Cordelia to this category if it is not improper to mention her here) - I think most of them are still there so that should keep many visitors happy. ( I have to be honest and say I have not been with most of those I mention but have heard good reports of all of them)
Whilst a very few of the departed are to be sorely missed and grieved, my view is that most of the huge number of very young Rumanian girls did not have much idea of the FKK ethos or how to be a good sex provider, so the loss of girls, while dramatic in numbers, is not necessarily a disaster. many of them had a red light attitude not a FKK one - so the stories about covered oral and laying down like a brick are just what I would expect from them.
So I would hope that the quality and quantity will both be good when I get there in three weeks
Hi Shiatsu,
You can add Natasha and Larissa (both Romanian if I remember correctly) to the list of girls that seemed to have survived the "vacation", but both are IMO very good providers.
Sadly, Vanessa also survived. I for one would not have missed her.
Damn, never got to go with Jana, hope she will resurface somewhere.
Chivaz
Shiatsu,
About your last post:
"...These types of workers tend to be the better providers, more experienced and working independently beholden to nobody. A few examples would be Betty, Viagra, Daniella, Stella, Pamela, Destiny, Miracle, Marta, Sharon, Olga, Nadia, Edith, Raquel, (and I would add Cordelia to this category if it is not improper to mention her here) - I think most of them are still there so that should keep many visitors happy..." I found it surprising that you omitted Andrea(Cz) from this list! I thought she was highly regarded by you and others. Was this just an inadvertant ommission, or is there some specific reason you left her out?
Your point about the RLD-attitude (as opposed to the true FKK-ethos) of many of the young, newbie Romanians is well taken.
Ortos - I tried only to include girls I thought were still there. And of course it was not comprehensive - so thanks for Chivaz's additions. Andrea was of course covered by my comment about the "sorely missed"
...at least some of the "R&B" girls semm to work at Oase currently.
I have no detailed information who is there and who isn´t, but will try to make a visit there soon.
Have fun,
Novize
Let me know when that is so that I may be there to see that historic moment. Maybe they will have new slippers to celebrate the occasion:-)
Cheers,
Dedalus
Good news? - I am told that the number of girls at World is today back up to a good level (only yesterday the place was referred to as Gayparty - meaning no women) Unfortunately I won't be going for a couple of weeks but no doubt someone will be there before me to check the service!
[QUOTE=Shiatsu]Good news? - I am told that the number of girls at World is today back up to a good level (only yesterday the place was referred to as Gayparty - meaning no women) Unfortunately I won't be going for a couple of weeks but no doubt someone will be there before me to check the service![/QUOTE]
Indeed some good news! I will be keeping an eye out and ear out for some names have survived this pickle and are presently plying their trade in Pohlheim.
Cheers,
Dedalus
The IAA, Internationale Automobil-Ausstellung, starts in a few days. It is one of the biggest events of the year at the Messe and the clubs around Frankfurt should be overflowing with both women and men. Normally there is a big influx of women who work during the event at the Messe and then leave. Next weekend should be a very good time to check out the talent around Frankfurt.
[QUOTE=Fats]The IAA, Internationale Automobil-Ausstellung, starts in a few days. It is one of the biggest events of the year at the Messe and the clubs around Frankfurt should be overflowing with both women and men. Normally there is a big influx of women who work during the event at the Messe and then leave. Next weekend should be a very good time to check out the talent around Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, if only I could afford the price of a hotel room within the Frankfurt area!
Thats an interesting question. There are a lot of people complaining about the exorbitant prices that Frankfurts Hotels are charging during Trade Shows.
It would NOT make sense to pay a couple of hundred € in Frankfurt per Day for a Room, just to play in the FKK Clubs. You would be better off to save your money and make a Trip to Poland, or Romania, or Riga(Ryanair), for example.
It could be interesting to start a new thread about Accomodation in the Frankfurt Area for non-Locals. I know I always appreciate that kind of information for other places that I like to visit.
You should not stay in Frankurt. You could check Giessen, Marburg, Nauheim, Friedberg, all north of Frankfurt. Also Mainz and maybe Wiesbaden, but you would need a Car.
Its easy to rent Appartments in all of these places and its also relatively inexpensive compaired to the Hotel Prices, the problem is that they Generally only rent by the Month.
I have rented Appartments for Business Associates in the Mannheim Area, Fully furnished, by the Week. Its possible to find them on the Internet.
There is probably more potential in that direction.
Chears
"There are a lot of people complaining about the exorbitant prices that Frankfurts Hotels are charging during Trade Shows.
It would NOT make sense to pay a couple of hundred € in Frankfurt per Day for a Room, just to play in the FKK Clubs. You would be better off to save your money and make a Trip to Poland, or Romania, or Riga(Ryanair), for example."
I would approach, or at least phrase the problem slightly differently: I would still visit the FKKs, but not during Messe. Then the Hotels in Frankfurt can be attacked at reasable prices...
"You should not stay in Frankurt. You could check Giessen, Marburg, Nauheim, Friedberg, all north of Frankfurt. Also Mainz and maybe Wiesbaden, but you would need a Car."
What about Bad Homburg, a cluse enough city to Frankfurt, with several hotel options of all categories, S-bahn access to central, and of course, great proximity to BHH Oase? Many of the places you mention (e.gl. Maiz, Giessen, Marburg are much, much more distant from Frankfurt than Bad Homburg. Don't forget, those of us serious FKKers are driving back to a hotel room as spent sex-athletes and we're looking for a hotel room 20 min-or so away, not 45-min+.
I've always sought refuge in the Bad Homburg hotels when my fkk activites happened to coincide with a messe in Frankfurt.
Ortos
For good hotel rate, even during Messe, try:
hrs.com
or
hotels.de
Good luck,
Dedalus
I agree, Bad-Homburg is a nice place to stay. It is a SPA Town, there is a Casino, Cafe's and some Nightlife. Its close to Frankfurt. If you look sharp and hang around the Casino or some of the SPA's, you could land a Freebie with some bored rich old-Lady's (I know a Guy who had this happen to him...).
If mobility is not an issue (Car) and I were visiting the Area, I would try to stay in Wiesbaden. Wiesbaden is an old SPA town, it has a lot to offer in Terms of Culture, and Rest & Recreation. There is a very big offering in terms of Nighlife, Pubs, Restaurant's, Theater, Concerts, etc. Wiesbaden used to be a very upscale place of Residenz, well known throughout Europe and Internationaly. Freebies can be possible similar to Bad-Homburg.
Mainz is a very old City on the Rhein River. Its a Catholic Center. However there are very many Students staying there, and Nurses, because of the University-Klinik. Its also very Political Place, many have Studied Jounalism there, and there is the well Known Karneval of Mainz. My impression is that, it is a bit more layed-back, and that there are not enough Men to go around for all the Women. I also think its also possible to find Budget Accomodation there easier.
I don't think that Distances to FKK-Clubs are going to be an issue if you have a Car. The Autobahns are for fast transit.
Anka is back. I mention this as I know one or two members have a soft spot for her. Cheyenne (ex Atlantis) has also returned
My flight arrives in Frankfurt at 7AM on a Saturday. I've reserved a hotel in the area near FFK World, but obviously it's not a good idea to go to World at the opening time (which is 10 AM, I believe). When should I go there, and in the meantime, what's there to do in the town of Giessen? I will not have an auto. And finally it's my first time to World, so thanks for the understanding.
Bruce.
Bruce
Always assuming that World will have recovered from its present diffuiculties by the time you arrive AND without wishing to scorn the touristic value of a city I hardly know (Giessen), I would not be too worried about arriving early at World.
I often turn up relatively early (say 11.00) and it is really relaxing. Of course there are not that many people there, but there is rarely any pressure coming from the girls, who are more in the mood to take it slowly and chat with you over a coffee. They've got a whole shift in front of them. Plenty of time to make your first choice, and always new ones arriving.
And I like their breakfast spread too.
Bruce
Giessen is a nice town but really has very little for a visitor. The war damage was very very extensive. You could do Botanic Gardens or the local museum or Karstadt department. Taking a bus to World woild make a pleasant way of passing half hour if the weather is ok
But if you are only there for one day go to World. Maybe 10.00 is a bit early but anytime after 10.30 would be ok.The number of girls may be lower than in the early evening but the atmosphere can often be much better in the daytime. The girls will tend to be less stressed and there ar emore of the good workers there (as opposed to the ones who sit and pick their noses)- and you may still be lucky and get a hot sunny day. I prefer the day - you can see the girls better and get the feel of how it is working on that day. In the late evening can get a bit difficult to see the girls - but then again after 1.00 it gets quiet most times so the atmosphere can get more intimate again
The huge car Fair in Frankfurt is on over the next ten days (15 to 25) so it may be a bit busier than normal.
What time are you going to leave World - if you are staying till 4.00am then it might get a bit mind numbing to be there from 10.00 in the morning. If you are staying till 4 or 5 then maybe a train to Butzbach before you go to World if you like beautiful old town centres?
Its not my intention to spam, but this was advertised on another forum :
[url]http://www.fkktours.co.uk/[/url]
This crowd apparrently run bus tours from London to FKK World. £395(600 euro) for a 48 hour trip that includes a whole day at world. Included in the price is coach from London, entry to world, 3 x 50 euro vouchers??, a night in a hotel and coach back.
Im sure anyone could do it cheaper alone, but for first time guys that dont want the hassle of getting to World once in Germany, it might be worth it. Not for me though
I saw this advertised on the other board too...But look at at this way: How many men with enough money and desire to play the FKK club(s) properly are going to want to sit on a bus, no matter how luxurious, for the many, many hours drive there and back? Imagine going through an intense day of FKKing and then having to face a 12+ hour journey home? Most men would want to fly, and indeed there are guys, like Shagmaster, who take an early morning flight from England to Frankfurt, visit the FKKs for the day/early evening, then fly back that very same night. Now that is the ticket, not a bus, with all due respect...
Ortos
And if you are on a flight you might (for better or worse)end up sitting next to me on my way to World. That happened just last week. Cordelia
[QUOTE=Bruce Ley]My flight arrives in Frankfurt at 7AM on a Saturday. I've reserved a hotel in the area near FFK World, but obviously it's not a good idea to go to World at the opening time (which is 10 AM, I believe). When should I go there, and in the meantime, what's there to do in the town of Giessen? I will not have an auto. And finally it's my first time to World, so thanks for the understanding.
Bruce.[/QUOTE]First off, unless you book the hotel the night before, you might find the hotel won't let you in your room until 12 or 1, if you go there first. I usually will call the hotel before flying to see how booked up they are the night before. If fully booked, either decide to pay for a room the night before or be prepared to sit and wait. Another trick is to call the hotel after you arrive at the airport and see if they will have a room ready when you show up. You can then make your mind up whether to go somewhere else first or not. Of course what to do with the luggage? Also, there are some hard nosed front desk clerks that just won't give you a room until check in time, even when available. I know that sounds crazy, but never underestimate the respect some Germans have for the rules.
If you know how to drive, I strongly recommend renting a car with navigation. Driving in Germany is really quite easy, just stay out of the left lane on the autobahn unless you are passing. World is really out in the country and a car is the best way to get there and back. But I am sure most of the taxi drivers in Giessen know where it is and World will call for one when it is time to go.
Spending an entire day at World is not such a bad thing. I have gone to World or Oases direct from the airport and find it a good way to start a European trip. It does work better if you take a later flight though, one that gets in after 10 or 11 is perfect. I agree that the girls in the afternoon tend to be less busy and that makes for more leisurely sessions sometimes. And it is nice to hang through the evening and watch the shift changes, lots more choices pop up.
Shiatsu/Cordelia,
How many providers are at World now? Even though Cordelia must like it when the girl to guy ratio is low, this does not make it very enjoyable to the mongers. Are Jana and Andrea back? The Rumanians? Olga from Russia?
Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide.
euro
[QUOTE=Shiatsu]Bruce
Giessen is a nice town but really has very little for a visitor. The war damage was very very extensive. You could do Botanic Gardens or the local museum or Karstadt department. Taking a bus to World woild make a pleasant way of passing half hour if the weather is ok
But if you are only there for one day go to World. Maybe 10.00 is a bit early but anytime after 10.30 would be ok.The number of girls may be lower than in the early evening but the atmosphere can often be much better in the daytime. The girls will tend to be less stressed and there ar emore of the good workers there (as opposed to the ones who sit and pick their noses)- and you may still be lucky and get a hot sunny day. I prefer the day - you can see the girls better and get the feel of how it is working on that day. In the late evening can get a bit difficult to see the girls - but then again after 1.00 it gets quiet most times so the atmosphere can get more intimate again
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That's comforting. I actually will be staying there for just one day. Then I'll sleep in a hotel in the next village/town (right by the Giessen train station), then make my way down to Frankfurt again. Which brings me to the next point...
[QUOTE=Shiatsu]
The huge car Fair in Frankfurt is on over the next ten days (15 to 25) so it may be a bit busier than normal.
[/QUOTE]
Now this is a bit disconcerting. I was planning on hitting Oase and Palace (not necessarily in that order) on my remaining two days. Will it be a total crapshoot with an overwhelming number of punters and no breathing space? I hope not. FYI, I've only been to Palace, and not Oase.
[QUOTE=Shiatsu]
What time are you going to leave World - if you are staying till 4.00am then it might get a bit mind numbing to be there from 10.00 in the morning. If you are staying till 4 or 5 then maybe a train to Butzbach before you go to World if you like beautiful old town centres?[/QUOTE]
I can stay aaaaaall night, if I want. :) Like I said, I have a hotel room booked for that night - but what would you do, Shiatsu? You're probably the best person to ask around here, considering your familiarity with FKK WORLD. At the same time I agree that spending 15+ hours in one place would get pretty tedious. I'll arrive at my hotel in Giessen at about 9-10AM from the Frankfurt airport, so maybe I should take a nap, then turn up at about 2PM or so. Good idea, or not?
Another alternative would be to spend time in Frankfurt, but I will have one fairly substantial piece of luggage, so that's a concern, despite that it has wheels.
Looking forward to your insight.
Bruce.
[QUOTE=Toscana]Bruce
Always assuming that World will have recovered from its present diffuiculties by the time you arrive AND without wishing to scorn the touristic value of a city I hardly know (Giessen), I would not be too worried about arriving early at World.
I often turn up relatively early (say 11.00) and it is really relaxing. Of course there are not that many people there, but there is rarely any pressure coming from the girls, who are more in the mood to take it slowly and chat with you over a coffee. They've got a whole shift in front of them. Plenty of time to make your first choice, and always new ones arriving.
And I like their breakfast spread too.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your opinion, Toscana. I really should try their breakfast. Mmmm. One thing, though. I'll be spending the night in that town before taking the first train back to Frankfurt. That means that I might as well stay at the club fairly late - at least until midnight. If I get there at 11AM, it will be bone-crushing 13-hour stay. Is that foolish, in your opinion?
Bruce.
Bruce
If you are my age, it is something other than a bone that is crushed after 13 hours :-)
I never stay that long, I must admit, but many do. Remember that there is also a nice relaxation downstairs, away from the relentless music.
I am not sure how the car fair affects World, which is also within striking distance of Frankfurt, but I think Palace and Oase will be very busy.
Bruce
My mind starts to dribble out of my ears after around eight hours. But remember you can (if you want) leave and come back a few hours later provided you tell the reception.
Going back to Frankfurt would be a waste of time and energy - and in Frankfurt all the girls wear clothes (a very strange habit I'd like to stop).
World has the advantage of size so you can take a sauna, or relax, or read a book downstairs or outside.
If you get there at 2.00 it will still be quiet (normally) and the breakfast is still laid out (although the scrambled egg and fruit will have gone on most days)
Palace is usually crowded out at major fair times. World is much much less affected (although the club is expecting more visitors than usual this weekend)
Euro - there are currently about 40 girls but this varies quite a bit night to night. The Club is putting gentle pressure on about days off, leaving times etc as it wants to make sure the number of girls is kept high. The numbers don't seem to make any real difference to Cordelia - she held her own even when there were 80 girls and hordes of young Rumanians. The men to women ratio is always in favour of the men
Andrea and Jana are both still missing and I certainly miss them. I would be surprised if they came back this month. I feel that they could well be back sometime this year but this is not based on any evidence.
I forgot to ask Cordelia if Olga is there - I think not. There are some Rumanians/EE (for example Daniella, Magda) but not lots of new ones
Not as good as first hand eyes (so to speak) but hope this helps a bit. Soembody else might have better info?
BL,
I know that this info is of no use to you for your upcoming trip, but in the future you might take into consideration the time of day you will be arriving.
I'd say a good 50% of the flights from the west coast arrive very early in the morning in Frankfurt. Personally though I like the ones where you arrive mid to late afternoon. It lets you collect your bags, clear customs, exchange money if you desire, drop off your bags at the hotel and head straight to the club arriving anywhere between 6PM and 9PM.
Get a few pops off, leave by midnight to 2AM and get a full night's rest to work off the jetlag. Then you have your batteries fully charged for the next day. No need to force yourself to stay awake for 20 hours or schedule a power nap that can screwup your internal clock even further. I prefer it this way so much that I look at the arrival time requirement before I even consider if the airfare is a good value.
Regarding Ortos, Novize, etal... references about issues that are/might be greater than girls going on vacation from World and the subsequent shortage of providers, I was wondering if anybody would care to elaborate further... maybe the stuff that were disclosed on Roemmerforum. I don't read or speak German, and I've found the text translations using net translating tools to give me a headache after about 5 minutes.
I don't plan to head over there until either next month or November, but I've taken more than a few stabs at new arrival R&B girls that turned out to be fantastic GFEs. If some issues prevent World from hosting some of these gals I might be inclined to rearrange my itinerary accordingly, as it were.
Some of the references to this matter have been a little cryptic (at least here) and I was interested in getting the full scoop... even if some of it might be conjecture. If this is something that might be a little too sensitive for the public folder, a PM would be greatly appreciated.
all the best, FKKL
[QUOTE=Fkk Lover]Regarding Ortos, Novize, etal... references about issues that are/might be greater than girls going on vacation from World and the subsequent shortage of providers, I was wondering if anybody would care to elaborate further... maybe the stuff that were disclosed on Roemmerforum. I don't read or speak German, and I've found the text translations using net translating tools to give me a headache after about 5 minutes.
I don't plan to head over there until either next month or November, but I've taken more than a few stabs at new arrival R&B girls that turned out to be fantastic GFEs. If some issues prevent World from hosting some of these gals I might be inclined to rearrange my itinerary accordingly, as it were.
Some of the references to this matter have been a little cryptic (at least here) and I was interested in getting the full scoop... even if some of it might be conjecture. If this is something that might be a little too sensitive for the public folder, a PM would be greatly appreciated.
all the best, FKKL[/QUOTE]
I think that the reason everything seems so "cryptic" is that only a handful of people really know the straight skinny. Yet tons of people are engaging in speculation. More than a few Roemers are doing this, so while there is some good info to be gleaned from that forum, there are no guarantees of the information's accuracy. I think that no responsible poster wants to start a panic and do unnecessary damage to a good club.
I also think that the World will right itself and some of the reports that I have read from people who have been there in the past few days lead me to believe that the club is on its way back. Our buddy Shiatsu may well be the best source that we have as far as providing us with a current World roster. I hear that Daniela the tornado is still there, as well as Edit(Hungary) and a few others. (Shiatsu: An up-to-date attendance list would be golden!)
Cheers,
Dedalus
Anka, Betty, Cheyenne, Cordelia, Daniella, Destiny, Edith, Georgia, Miracle, Nadia, Olga, Pamela, Raquel, Sharon , Stella, Viagra are all there. I'll try to pick up some more names in the next few days. So there is quite of lot of choice from experienced good providers.
Speculation never does any good but always fills an information vacuum. All I can say is that the departure of many girls does not reflect on the Club but on the wish of the girls concerned to avoid any difficulties about their own arrangements. That's why things should sort themselves out in a relatively short times. And as I have said I am not sure that most of those who left are to be missed - many of the short term girls did not have a good attitude and just relied on their youth to catch men
FKKL, Shiatsu,
Thanks for the intel and advice, it's muchappreciated. Just one more thing - are there storage lockers in the Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof? If so, I can store my luggage there and just walk around Frankfurt for a bit before heading to Giessen on a midday or early afternoon train. Please let me know ASAP - my trip is imminent. Thanks.
Bruce.
Plenty of storage lockers in Frankfurt train station as well as in the airport.
When you get into the train station - if you are facing the main exit with the trains at your back, the lockers are to your extreme left hand side, by that side exit. All sorts of different sizes, and all coin operated.
In frankfurt now - plesase excuse the typos since Iäm typing on these stupid German keyboards. No offense to the German lads here, from this ignorant American. :)
I went to World yesterday, a Saturday, despite my long flight and jetlag. Had a total of 4 girls.
1. Ines, from Latvia.
Avoid this one. She,s blonde, about 5 feet 8 or 9 with stilettos, and she has a small tattoo at the nape of her neck, right below her hairline (long hair). She rushes you and does not kiss, though in hidnsight I should have asked. Actuallz, my little friend was probably doing the thining for me, rushing me into a bad decision. Nice tight pussy in missionary position and also doggy, but uninspired. Neither a PSE or GSE. I was so horny though that I opted for a CIF option and sprayed that shit in her mouth, nose, hair and tongue as revenge.
2) Betty, from Cuba
This nice German man called M. (maybe he posts here?) introduced me to this angel called Betty. She, very petite and slim, with a curvy hip-butt and stem-like legs, with the face of an angel. Her face is small and narrow, and with a beautiful pointed chin and aquiline nose. Shes very affable and always smiling and talking dirty in a friendly way. She likes to kiss and make out and make small talk. I met another guy who was a German pilot, and although I didnät get to talk to him post-session, he must have been all smiles. I know it. I know I was. She doesnät allow CIM, but takes in on her body and rubs it in her breasts and belly. Hot action. And she screams loudly - we put on a good show in the Kino on the very back couch, and did the whole she-bang there. Had an audience of 3 men and 1 lady. And tip her well - she lights up when you treat her generously. I even had dinner with her later on with a friend, and she is fantastic company.
3) Hungarian, name I forgot.
I can tell you that she had blonde-brown colored dreadlocks (like a Jamaican girl) that reaches her shoulderblades. she is verz slender and slinks around like a cat - extremely sexy. She looks a lot like the Hungarian pornstar Michelle Wild, though she is more slender and probably a bit taller at around 5 feet 5 inches or so without heels. She likes eyecontact while fucking, and we did it in a four-walled mirror room. Awesome. She looked in the mirror and watched us fuck away. The best was when I made her lie belly-down on the bed, her legs closed, and I entered her from behind. Her clam was totallz wet and squishing away as I drilled her from behind. She moaned continuously and rhythmically in a very sexy cooing way. The only thing was that she was not a GFE, and quite professional. I did manage to get a decent enough attitude out of her since I complimented her and cracked a joke or two with her in the main lounge, before I took her away. Trust me, gentlement - a girl appreciates a man who can make a woman feel relaxed and laughing. I,d rate her a 9 in looks (her breasts were a bit plain though , not in size necessarily but in shape) and about a 7 in attitude (7.5 to 8 if you can warm her up).
4) Steffi, Romania
This one is about 5 feet 7 without heels, very thin and slinky like a fashion model, with black straight shoulder length hair and a pretty, angular face. An 8 in looks. But her attitude is a 9, at least. She was very sweet and tender while giving me little pecks on the cheek in the widescreen TV lounge downstairs )next to the saunas), as we drank coffee and chatted (her English is so-so, speak slowly). In the room, she tries HARD to please, and makes sure that you come. I had a lot of trouble blowing a load after 3 goes in about 3.5 hours, but she kneeled on the hard floor and gave me a blowing like a trooper. Then when she couldnt make me come with her mouth, I decided to "bless" her with my sticky and thick cum for being such an angel. She took it across her cheeks and mouth and gagged at the taste, which was kind of hot in that porn-movie way. I apologized for making her gag, but she was very sweet and gracious and smiled about it. What an attitude! Highly recommended - treat her well for me and tip her well.
Well, I hope Iäve earned my keep as a Senior member with this report - will be back with more later.
- Bruce.
Hi,
I also went to World yesterday, but as I was in a hurry I was only there for the afternoon. It was the emptiest I had ever seen it and none of my regular girls were there. So I was forced to try a couple of new providers.
The first was Jeanette, a French name maybe, but a German girl from Giessen only 19 years of age, slightly below average height, glasses, white skin and nice boobs. Now, I never go for girls so young, but firstly, I was desperate, and secondly, she said she has been working there 5 days a week for the last 15 months. So I figured I would not get a bad experience. And this was the case, perfectly pleasant, proficient blowjob and nice tight fanny as she’s so young. A good, average shag. Would I try her again? Not with so much other choice around, but maybe yes if I were desperate.
My second girl was called Irina from Moscow, long dark hair, slightly above average height and a nice suntan. Once again a perfectly pleasant experience and no major complaints. The only thing I would say is that she was a bit of a clock watcher, except neither of us was wearing a watch, and it’s a bit off-putting to be told every now and then to hurry up and have an orgasm. If you go with this girl then take a watch with you as well.
I was just leaving when I bumped into Cordelia and had a short but pleasant chat with her. She said she had been rather busy and had to go off again. So maybe I’ll see her next time.
Given Bruce Ley's recent report just advised us to "tip well" for good service, I would like to add that tipping is neither required nor expected. You are in a different country, there are different local practices. If she does a good job, see her again. The fixed pricing structure is one of the best things about the FKKs in Germany and an Auslander throwing around money makes the girls greedy (they begin to expect or even demand a tip) and pisses off the locals.
The girls motivation is money, if you after a good session give a small tip (10 or 20 €), she will remember you next time and she might tell her friends that you are generous and she gives you much better and personal sex next time. One should only tip a girl if you want to see her again, now IMHO girls prefer generous attitude instead of stinginess, also you get better service if you book an hour instead of 30 minutes.
[QUOTE=Fats]Given Bruce Ley's recent report just advised us to "tip well" for good service, I would like to add that tipping is neither required nor expected. You are in a different country, there are different local practices. If she does a good job, see her again. The fixed pricing structure is one of the best things about the FKKs in Germany and an Auslander throwing around money makes the girls greedy (they begin to expect or even demand a tip) and pisses off the locals.[/QUOTE]
That's right. Tipping the ladies has the potential of destroying the pricing-vs.-service structure, making it worse for everybody. Don't do it. If you want to do something nice for a lady, either book her again, recommend her to your friends, or maybe treat her to a massage.
That is all I can say to the subject. Don't do it!
Don't cheat the girls, and try to get something for nothing, but do not overpay either. If you had a good time, then be friendly and pleasant to the girls, and go with her again on your next trip, but do not tip!
Otherwise don't expect to be welcomed by the locals. One thing these clubs don't need is foreigners throwing money around!
If you have too much money, give some to charity. Pay the girls what they have earned, but don't pay any more.
Unfortunately Bruce Ley was the latest in a long line to be fooled by Inessa from Latvia. She approaches sweetly, is charming and sexy before you enter the room, and awful once you're in there. All sell-up and stress to get you finished asap. She's been mentioned on this board more than once, and is notorious on the German boards.
So guys, even if you cannot remember the names of all the good girls, do remember Ines or Inessa (she uses both names) as one to avoid.
Throwing in another 10 or 20 euro does not impress the girls as much as you might think. If you go longer than half hour and owe her 100, she makes much more money. So if you want to be very generous, then do what most of us do when we find a special one: extend to an hour. Or even longer. Up to you. If you want to get rid of even more money, then try CIM. But don't for a moment think that the girls will think you are a big spender for giving them 60 or 70 euros for a session and will thus remember you and do something special for you.
I agree with Peter, tipping should be avoided. Period.
euro
I have to add as well: the only tip you should give to the girls should be that of your member. The best money-maker for the girls would be to extend for an hour and opt for CIM-that's a cool €150,- for not necessarily a full hour's work. Of if you like her, go with her again. What I've found is that they are more likely to remember you if you are gentlemanly and have a good conversation. Like when you eat at a restaurant, the service is included on the bill (rounding up to the next whole euro or two is ok).
So the big question here really is: is it worth it to go back to World, or should we wait until after Ocktoberfest? I miss Andrea. I hope the all-stars start coming back from holiday soon. I always liked World because of the superior facilities. Oase always seems too smokey and I don't have enough information on Palace. FKK Malibu was nice, but I'm waiting for another visit to report on that establishment.
I spenta monday evening at World in early August (before the since reported and hopefully gone "drought").
I arrived in FRA at 9:30AM, and went to a winery in Nahe first to pick up some fine Riesling (my other hobby).
Arrived at World around 4:00, and spent an hour checking things out (my first trip to World after many trips to Oase).
Betty was flirting with me at the bar, and we agreed to find a room. One hour with Betty was an amazing GFE experience. I must admit that I am not always able to cum with a jacket, but had no such troubles when Betty mounted me reverse cowgirl style (after an amazing an almost to completion BBBJ). I think I got lucky, as there have been several great reviews of Betty in the last couple of weeks.
At the bar, Betty was hanging out with a girl with blonde hair fair complexion and glasses - I wonder if this was the "Jeanette" that Kingwenslas was with. Does anyone know if Betty and Jeannette hang out? When I was there, this was the only girl out og 40-50 wearing glasses.
Anyway, I ate some dinner after Betty, scoped out the scene some more, and debated taking another offer. Recognized Stella? (she went by another name as well) from Oase (the short blond that was IMO the best pole dancer in OASE history). Being tired, and down to 60 Euro (I never like to go into a session with less than 100 Euro, since you never know what might happen), I decided to retire early.
I expected to make a return trip to WOrld later that week, but my business meetings prevented the return.
I'll be back in October (not sure the dates), and hope to meet with some of the posters here, as I would love to be able to put some faces with the girls names reported here.
From Detroit,
Riceman
I'll probably be in Stuttgart for a short trip next week.
Is FKK Stuttgart worth a visit? On their websitethe girls look average.
Thanks for your inputs.
This is the wrong thread for your question. Please post at "Other FKK-clubs" in the future... ;)
In the Stuttgart area, I would recommend FKK-Haus in Fellbach. It´s only 15 minutes via car from Stuttgart city.
The club is cleaner and there are enough nice ladies who are willing to comfort you.
You can get a first impression at [url]www.fkk-haus.com[/url]
Have fun,
Novize
Hey guys,
I want to attach a link to a hotel that I found that I like can anyone fill me in on how closse it is to FKK World? And any golf courses in the area.
Thanks
[url]http://www.bookings.de/hotel/de/hotelalteseishaus.html?aid=303948;label=freiburg-im-breisgau;sid=fd009519b41ccf1f62017c4f0dd4ce1c;checkin_monthday=2;checkin_year_month=2005-11;checkout_monthday=7;checkout_year_month=2005-11;[/url]
It will be about 20 - 25 minutes drive maximum. It's not very far but you have to cross Giessen town. No idea about golf courses - i can't take my mind off sex when I'm in Giessen. Naked women beat the attractions of the outdoors
[QUOTE=Biggee85]Hey guys,
I want to attach a link to a hotel that I found that I like can anyone fill me in on how closse it is to FKK World? And any golf courses in the area.
Thanks
[/QUOTE]
I stayed at the Altes Eishaus hotel couple of years ago and it was ok. It is very basic and none of the staff spoke English. I would not rate it more than 2 stars, but everything was clean and for those who are looking for hotel just to sleep and have breakfast, it will do just fine. I had a rental car with navigation at the time and if I remember right, it took about 15 minutes to get to World
There is a golf course in Lich (Hofgut Kolnhausen Golf Club) about 10 km. from Giessen ([url]http://www.licher-golf-club.de[/url])
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Biggee85]Hey guys,
I want to attach a link to a hotel that I found that I like can anyone fill me in on how closse it is to FKK World? And any golf courses in the area.
Thanks
Biggee85,
Shiatsu & Chivaz were right, the hotel Altes Eishaus is very simply. I stay there last May, however, I have to inform you, this hotel is located at edge of town (far left) on residential area, do have the bus 30 feet away.
If you are not driving, take a Taxi about 25 minutes to FKKW. Remember, Taxi has to go across the town to FKKW, so do have some traffic during the day. I stay there 3 night, they charged me 39e per night. It is funny, all taxi driver charged me different rate (all under 20e), one time, I asking woman from the hotel called me a taxi (I speaking some Deutsch), driver only charged me 12e !!!. BTW, the hotel front desk only open limited hours, save the budget of course.
If you don't mind very very simply hotel, yes, even simply than Altes Eishaus, you might want to consider Etap. I stay there last Aug, only 32e per night. This hotel is located at small village called Linden, the village before Giessen. From Etap to FKKW, only 10 minutes driving if you have a car. If you need dir, let me know. For Etap, you could ck in/out any time by machine in front of door (machine will give you the comb#).
I have been FKk for many years now, I have to say, rent a car is the best option for me.
Potl
[QUOTE=Chivaz]There is a golf course in Lich (Hofgut Kolnhausen Golf Club) about 10 km. from Giessen ([url]http://www.licher-golf-club.de[/url])[/QUOTE]
Hey, not bad Chivaz. I might wanna check it out in a couple of weeks when I go. You've been? Any good?
[QUOTE=Fkk Lover]Hey, not bad Chivaz. I might wanna check it out in a couple of weeks when I go. You've been? Any good?[/QUOTE]
I have not tried the course, but it seems to be pretty decent with good facilities, nice club house etc. The slope indicates it is well above average in difficulty. Green fees are in the middle range, not cheap, but not that expensive.
For those who like to stay in Lich, here are a few hotels you can check out:
Landhaus Klosterwald
Alte Klostermühle
Hotel Garni Motel
Hotel Schneider
I have only checked out Landhaus Klosterwald and it seems nice. Don't know the prices though.
Chivaz
Thanks guys,
I'm a simple man so a hotel like that would suit me, even though I speak no german, I assume that I can stumble through it. I will be getting a car when I arrive, I just ran across the hotel ad page and thought it looked like a friendly small country hotel, nothing fancy a nice bed, with a heat in the room and a shower is really all i ask. And besides the way the hotel advertised the town it sounds nice, with theare and cinemas, and shopping, castle and such. Here is a question that might be rather strange, at FKKW it says that you run around in a towel. Well I'm a big fellow 6.0 260lbs. and the last thing i wanna do is run around half ass naked, is there any other clothing that can be worn, like robes etc. Thanks guy keep the hotel info coming your making it a lot easier to pick a room and if any guys ar gona be ther nov 2 through the 7th , let me know. Wouldn't mind meeting a few fellow mongers!
Boys, boys, with all due respect, and please don't think me overly agressive, rude or in any way out of line here when I point out:
Who in their right mind would be thinking of flying to Germany to play golf --and paying some top Euro for the "privelidge", btw-- when you could sink your putter in some other prime holes playing courses at World, Oase or Palace whilst in the Giessen/Frankfurt vicinity?
I have to fill 5 days, I cant possibility spend all those days chasing pu**y around, wait, yes I can!! but I really wanna do something besides that, I can play 18 then go play some one on one with the hunnies!! Not to mention the jealously card i can play back here at the local country club hehe!!!
Boys, boys, with all due respect, and please don't think me overly agressive, rude or in any way out of line here when I point out:
Who in their right mind would be thinking of flying to Germany to play golf --and paying some top Euro for the "privelidge", btw-- when you could sink your putter in some other prime holes playing courses at World, Oase or Palace whilst in the Giessen/Frankfurt vicinity?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ortos]Boys, boys, with all due respect, and please don't think me overly agressive, rude or in any way out of line here when I point out:
Who in their right mind would be thinking of flying to Germany to play golf --and paying some top Euro for the "privelidge", btw-- when you could sink your putter in some other prime holes playing courses at World, Oase or Palace whilst in the Giessen/Frankfurt vicinity?[/QUOTE]
Now now my good man. A wise man once said that "Golf and sex are about the only things you can enjoy without being good at them."
Jimmy DeMaret, I think.
Cheers,
Dedalus
P.S. For a funny golf/sex viewpoint check out:
[url]http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_07.06.95/NEWS/nak0706.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Ortos]Boys, boys, with all due respect, and please don't think me overly agressive, rude or in any way out of line here when I point out:
Who in their right mind would be thinking of flying to Germany to play golf --and paying some top Euro for the "privelidge", btw-- when you could sink your putter in some other prime holes playing courses at World, Oase or Palace whilst in the Giessen/Frankfurt vicinity?[/QUOTE]
Ahhh, Ortos, no offence taken, but there is only so much fluid one has in his body. Although I have not mixed puntering and golf, I can surely understand one's wish to mix things up. I usually don't have the patience to do those 16-18 hours stays at the FKKs. I like to mix things up, usually with some regular clubbing, nice dining and stuff like that. Golf is just another pasttime that does not put much stress on your body so you are able to refuel while having some fun with a different stick, balls and a hole.
I for one think it would be great to have a shag around noon, play 18 holes and then do a grand finale at World. To enjoy the finer things in life, one must mix it up, right?
While I understand we are drifting away from the subject here, I must mention golfing in Thailand where you can get a BJ from the caddy (which of course is a girl). Life is good.
Chivaz