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Medellin Reports
[QUOTE=Kelso1;1289261]Well a while back a guide with a lot of experence had I think 4 Oriental gentlemen with him, and they were robbed in Poblado.[/QUOTE]Actually, I think that incident was with Frank Casio and he was coming from the metro station to Mayorista not Poblado. That being said, Medellin is dangerous. I am not a belligerent person yet on three separate occasions I have had disagreements with overly aggressive Colombian guys who think they can paw my date. Any one of those could have gone south real quick if guns were involved.
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Rainman
[QUOTE=Rainman3]Msands,
Have you been to mde during feria de flores? I absolutely love it!
Rainman3[/QUOTE]Never been! That's just the answer I got from 2 dudes on this board. So, why do you love it? Tell us more. Gimme a story, bro!
Thanks in advance!
M
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How hot will Medellin, Colombig get in 2008?
According to government figures, about 1 million international tourists visit Colombia every year. Officials are expected to see that double in the coming years as word gets out from travelers returning home, spreading the word about Colombia's picturesque landscapes, tropical rainforest, snow-capped Andean peaks towering over countless valleys throughout Colombia. . In addition, its beautiful Caribbean and Pacific coasts, with plenty of warm beaches are other great destinations. A traveler's dream come true.
I have my next trip booked for January when the bullfights start, Pablo Escobar's Hacienda Napoles is opened to the public, Parque Norte Amusement Park opened earlier this month, as well as Parque Explora.
I suggest findging yourself a lovely lady to take you on a private tour of Medellin, the city of eternal spring.
For more info check out [url]http://www.medellintraveler.com[/url]
And for an incredibley HOT tour of Mango's nightclub in Medellin [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haGQDZ6Tjn8[/url]
National Geographic Adventures announced Colombia as one of the top destination for 2008, but I don't think they were talking about the growing P$P scene!
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Thanks fellas!
Thanks to all who have replied to my inquiry. Gives me a good jumpoff point to continue my research. I may look at July or August for a trip! Will definitely keep this board posted as the planning evolves and I reach fruition!
Rodeo
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[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Gents,
Please help with info on the best time to go to Medellin. I've heard that there is a big flower festival at some point during the year and also that the practices for Miss Colombia are held in Medellin and one may have the opportunity to hook up with some of those contestants/models with the right contacts. I'm looking to make a trip with maybe 3 other dudes. We'd like to avoid the rainy season if possible, but want to go when there are the most women and when we can get the best experience. Thanks in advance. Also, is there a term I can search for good "Best" lists in Medellin? I. E. Best hotels, best casas, best bars, best guides, etc, etc. Thanks,
Rodeo[/QUOTE]The rainy season has 2 parts: Oct. & Nov. And May. This year the rainy season has extended through tomorrow, maybe longer.
The Medellín metro area has around 3. 3 million people. There are always plenty of girls.
Nothing to do with Miss Colombia happens in MDE. They probably have a pageant for Miss Antioquia here though.
You can hook up with telenovela stars stars if you have the right contacts and a boatload of money. I have neither.
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Traylor Park
Bull fights start in Jan. Until when does the bull fight season last?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Msands]Never been! That's just the answer I got from 2 dudes on this board. So, why do you love it? Tell us more. Gimme a story, bro!
Thanks in advance!
M[/QUOTE]Msands,
The FDF does require you to book your room early because MDE does crowd up significantly. There is such a great and festive atmosphere to the entire event with various parades and other events happening all over the city. My favorite is the Drunken Horse Parade, the horses aren't drunk but many of the riders are. You just can't beat the combination of a hot woman on a beautiful horse. On the day of the DHP I was out from 11 am till 4 the next morning. I never saw any fights or arguments like you see in NO during Mardi Gras. I ended up meeting 4 Paisitas (reg. chicas) 1 of which who had a car and partying with them in Sabaneta. During the parade I would have perfect strangers pass me their bottles of aguardiente for me to take a shot once they realizes I was visiting from out of country.
I loved the FDF! It was one of the absolute best times I have ever had!
Rainman3
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[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Gents,
Please help with info on the best time to go to Medellin. I've heard that there is a big flower festival at some point during the year and also that the practices for Miss Colombia are held in Medellin and one may have the opportunity to hook up with some of those contestants/models with the right contacts. I'm looking to make a trip with maybe 3 other dudes. We'd like to avoid the rainy season if possible, but want to go when there are the most women and when we can get the best experience. Thanks in advance. Also, is there a term I can search for good "Best" lists in Medellin? I. E. Best hotels, best casas, best bars, best guides, etc, etc. Thanks,
Rodeo[/QUOTE]Like Malodr said, just about anytime is great in Medellin.
I'd stay away from Easter week and the week after Christmas until about mid-Jan.
As far as the pros go, lots of them leave to stay with family at that time.
Have fun!
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More El Centro notes
I believe the chica in 2 photos below is from "De Greiff Show", located directly across the street from the Plaza Botero and less than a block down from the Hotel Nutibarra. She has some flaws, though I was satisfied with my selection. Las Gatas, Grill Occidental, Conejitas, and a few other clubs are all located within 2 blocks of this one.
Grill Occidental has gone downhill. I've found some gems in this club in the past year, but now there's much less talent. There is new management, which appears to have links to the drug trade. I've seen plenty of club chicas doing coke, but I was shocked by how many of them were openly snorting on the tables.
The price for 30 minutes with a chica in these clubs/grills/shows is between 30, 000 and 40, 000 and that includes BBBJ, photos, and daty if you want it.
I noticed a definite reduction in the number of chicas roaming the streets in the weeks leading up to Xmas. In fact, I was shocked to see how few chicas there were a few nights in front of El Faro Bar. I've already posted a few of these photos of Johanna, but she can be found these days around El Faro from 4-9 pm. She comes highly recommended.
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Best Time
Flower Festival is the first 10 days in August (although in 2007 it included the last 2 days of July).
Miss Colombia pagent is in January in Cartagena. Not sure when the practices start in Mde.
There are two rainy seasons. Oct-Dec and Feb-March. The rest of the time it only rains occasionally and for brief periods.
Try [url]www.medellintravelguide.com[/url] for your other info. Lots of info on hotels, nightlife, clubs, restaurants and more.
Sandman
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Gents,
Please help with info on the best time to go to Medellin. I've heard that there is a big flower festival at some point during the year and also that the practices for Miss Colombia are held in Medellin and one may have the opportunity to hook up with some of those contestants/models with the right contacts. I'm looking to make a trip with maybe 3 other dudes. We'd like to avoid the rainy season if possible, but want to go when there are the most women and when we can get the best experience. Thanks in advance. Also, is there a term I can search for good "Best" lists in Medellin? I. E. Best hotels, best casas, best bars, best guides, etc, etc. Thanks,
Rodeo[/QUOTE]
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Rodeo
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Gents,
Please help with info on the best time to go to Medellin. I've heard that there is a big flower festival at some point during the year and also that the practices for Miss Colombia are held in Medellin and one may have the opportunity to hook up with some of those contestants/models with the right contacts. I'm looking to make a trip with maybe 3 other dudes. We'd like to avoid the rainy season if possible, but want to go when there are the most women and when we can get the best experience. Thanks in advance. Also, is there a term I can search for good "Best" lists in Medellin? I. E. Best hotels, best casas, best bars, best guides, etc, etc. Thanks,
Rodeo[/QUOTE]Hey Rodeo,
I see you're migrating south from Panama to Colombia like me! Makes sense, all the hotties in PTY come from here...might as well tap that ass at the source.
I've researched MDE as well for a trip later this year, maybe Aug or Sept. Answer I got is that Flower Festival ain't bad, but they suggested another week for first visit. Three day weekends seem like a good bet. Here's a list of holidays for 2008.
2008
1 Jan New Year’s Day.
6 Jan* Epiphany.
19 Mar* St Joseph’s Day.
20 Mar Maundy Thursday.
21 Mar Good Friday.
1 May Labour Day
1 May* Ascension.
22 May* Corpus Christi.
30 Jun* Sagrado Corazon (Sacred Heart).
3 Jul* St Peter and St Paul.
20 Jul Independence Day.
7 Aug Battle of Boyacá.
15 Aug* Assumption.
12 Oct* Columbus Day.
1 Nov* All Saints' Day.
11 Nov* Independence of Cartagena City.
8 Dec Immaculate Conception.
25 Dec Christmas Day
* observed following Monday
Basically, Flower Festival is more crowded in terms of traffic, waiting lines, airport, hotel rates go up, etc. And it sounds like paisas party no more or no less during the festival.
As for rainy season, I've read it's generally between Sept. to Nov. and Jan to Mar. But not like a monsoon season, so it may not be as wide a swing as it sounds.
As for bests, lots of threads here. Much better than the Panama board. Oh yeah, if you want to see some replies fly on this board, ask about investing in real estate :>).
Sounds like Mango's, Kukaramakara and Palmitas are good dance clubs to check out. Loutron's is the high end puteria, much cheaper than PTY.
Another option here is to stay at a place like Mansion or VIP for first visit (or rent one of their apartments) and have those guys give you a lay of the land. Or two..
Look forward to your trip report. And if you do hook up with a Miss Colombia contestant, I'll be first to link your post to ROD!!
Buena suerte,
M
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Paisa at the beach
Here are photos of Col Bog's friend, Karen. Send me a message if you want her contact info in Medellín.
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[QUOTE=Rainman3]Msands,
The FDF does require you to book your room early because MDE does crowd up significantly. There is such a great and festive atmosphere to the entire event with various parades and other events happening all over the city. My favorite is the Drunken Horse Parade, the horses aren't drunk but many of the riders are. You just can't beat the combination of a hot woman on a beautiful horse. On the day of the DHP I was out from 11 am till 4 the next morning. I never saw any fights or arguments like you see in NO during Mardi Gras. I ended up meeting 4 Paisitas (reg. chicas) 1 of which who had a car and partying with them in Sabaneta. During the parade I would have perfect strangers pass me their bottles of aguardiente for me to take a shot once they realizes I was visiting from out of country.
I loved the FDF! It was one of the absolute best times I have ever had!
Rainman3[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure a bloke got shot at the last FDF.
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[QUOTE=Mangera] Until when does the bull fight season last? Thanks![/QUOTE]The bullfights get started on January 19 and end in February 23, and are held each Saturday.
The popular bullfights have continued in Medellin, Cali, Cartagena, Manizales, and Bogota since Colombia gained independence from Spain in 1819.
It is one of few Latin American countries where the original form of the sport is still practiced, this means, the most bloodiest and violent of its kind. But not without controversy. Animal rights activists decry the sport's cruelty and call for its cessation of this time honored tradition that draws in a large audiences at every event.
The fervent fan base fills La Macarena Stadium in Medellin during January and February to see the best toreros fight the biggest bulls.
La Macarena Stadium was recently renovated to include a retractable roof in the event of rain preventing the festivites to continue.
It should be a great time. It's my understanding that there are lots of beautiful young Paisitas in attendance. I will make sure to charge my camera's batteries before attending the event.
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Thanks for info.
[QUOTE=Traylor Park]The bullfights get started on January 19 and end in February 23, and are held each Saturday.
The popular bullfights have continued in Medellin, Cali, Cartagena, Manizales, and Bogota since Colombia gained independence from Spain in 1819.
It is one of few Latin American countries where the original form of the sport is still practiced, this means, the most bloodiest and violent of its kind. But not without controversy. Animal rights activists decry the sport's cruelty and call for its cessation of this time honored tradition that draws in a large audiences at every event.
The fervent fan base fills La Macarena Stadium in Medellin during January and February to see the best toreros fight the biggest bulls.
La Macarena Stadium was recently renovated to include a retractable roof in the event of rain preventing the festivites to continue.
It should be a great time. It's my understanding that there are lots of beautiful young Paisitas in attendance. I will make sure to charge my camera's batteries before attending the event.[/QUOTE]I think I will attend a bull fight in February. Thanks again Sir!
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Flying Business Class
No matter what dates or criterion I put into Travelocity I cannot find a carrier with business class service. I am flying out of Dulles (IAD) which is long enough to justify the expense in my mind, but apparently no one flies from Washington to Colombia in style.
What gives? Can someone explain what I must do to avoid flying in a puddle jumper next to someone and their clucking chicken?
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[QUOTE=Acuerpado]Here are photos of Col Bog's friend, Karen. Send me a message if you want her contact info in Medellín.[/QUOTE]Hello,
Where is this beach? I don't know this place.
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[QUOTE=Gary Groundwork]I'm pretty sure a bloke got shot at the last FDF. [/QUOTE] MDE has a metro population of 3. 3 million. I don't follow shooting stats, but I'm guessing that there is a fair chance that someone would be shot in any particular week.
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Cornbread88,
Nice report Cornbread. I can also say I am probably in that 20% you talked about. I am not bragging, I just am and I realize it. Having probably above average looks, and maybe very decent looks, I can say that it does help you pick up the ladies. I think it probably only gets you about 5 minutes of face-time. The rest is up to you. Confidence can be derived from the way you real about your looks or something else. I can say that the girls in Medellin from good families care more about social status than anything else. As a gringo you'll have more success with a hot shop worker in the mall than a rich girl in Parque Lleras with her friends. Ultimately women are social climbers and in the end it is what you can do for them that is the most important.
Finally, I wanted to comment on the body language thing. When you are talking to a girl and her body is pointed away from you then abandon ship. That's the little I know.
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Acuerpado, paisa on the beach
Acuerpado,
In the post "Paisa on the beach" of Col Bog's friend, Karen, can you tell us where that beach is located?
Thanks?
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Spectacular Accomodations
All the Medellin properties here on the ISG seem to be stunning! Matter of fact, the ones I have seen personally are stunning. But I think their are plenty of folks here that can live with a 42" lcd instead of a 50+ plasma, and a nicely appointed tile bathroom instead of "italian marble. The Medellin condo my travel buddies and I rented and have since purchased together is in a safe area of Poblado and is very comfortable, but is probably not "suitable for royalty". I believe if someone opened a safe, clean, $50. 00 a night place, it would stay full. But I guess there is no reason to, if the $100. 00 a night places are staying packed. Running a business out of the country is alot of stress, and I guess they deserve every penny they charge.
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Feb bull fights
I think I read in a travel guide today, that they shut for part of Feb? But I may be confused. The phone number to Plaza de Toros La Macarena is. 260 7193 they start next Wednesday. Friday night is best I'm told.
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[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]Acuerpado,
In the post "Paisa on the beach" of Col Bog's friend, Karen, can you tell us where that beach is located?
Thanks?[/QUOTE]My guess is Santa Marta.
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Jan 19th-Feb 23rd
Bullfights in Mde. this year start on Jan. 19th and run through Feb 23rd. Normally 6 weeks. Not sure why this year is shorter.
[QUOTE=Dacian]I think I read in a travel guide today, that they shut for part of Feb? But I may be confused. The phone number to Plaza de Toros La Macarena is. 260 7193 they start next Wednesday. Friday night is best I'm told.[/QUOTE]
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This beach is located in the Parque Tayrona and is called Playa Cristal by some and Playa del Muerto by others.
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]Acuerpado,
In the post "Paisa on the beach" of Col Bog's friend, Karen, can you tell us where that beach is located?
Thanks?[/QUOTE]
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A visit to the centre (Lina at Alejas)
The new year's party just finished yesterday and I’m back to Medellin!
I arrived around 2:30pm at my hotel and left within the next 30 minutes to the center
Acuerpado in one of his post said that he likes Alejas and New Life, so I decided to check those 2 places.
I first arrive to New Life (Calle 56 43-39) and passed the 2 gates, climbed the stairs and finally reached the place.
I asked for prices (50K for 60’) and to see the girls. I saw 6 girls. 3 doable (slim). I asked to talk to one of the doable and after 2 minutes or so, I asked her for BBBJ = No, DATY = Yes, Pictures = NO.
As the girl was not that cute and I didn’t feel much attraction for her, I declined and walked out.
I walked then to the very close Alejas (Calle 54 42-13) and enter the place. Last time I visited Alejas, the guy told me that it was 5k to see the girls and I left immediately, I was glad to see that they quit that fee and you can now see the girls without any problem.
They had 8 girls, 3 doable, but when I saw Lina, I knew it would be her.
She is not very cute or skinny or small. She is nice and has much charm.
Let’s say she is 1, 6 Meters high, probably 45/50 Kgs, Dark mid size hairs with a touch of blond coloration, a pretty face, a very charming smile, a normal ass and 2 natural beautiful mid-size boobs.
I talked with her and got the same answer as in New life: BBBJ = No, DATY = Yes, Pictures = NO, but she was smiling and had a good attitude.
So I said ok. Prices are 45K for 60’.
I gave 50K to the fat guy and went upstairs, waiting for Lina to come.
She arrived in less than 2 minutes and got her bra and panty off.
It took me also 2 minutes to get all my clothes off and there we are in each others arms starting to kiss (no L or DFK).
As I had no sex for several days, I knew I would have no problem to get stiff and to come, even with a condom. I put her on her back and start the DATY, it was clear that something was going wrong but when I asked, she told me to keep sucking but not too strong. So I suck her lips, clit and even ass (a little bit) and after more than 5 minutes of that she started to react and to move according to my tongue.
I was feeling very excited and got in missionary position but Lina immediately got out of the position, covered me, put me on my back and start to blow. Her oral technique is good, and she likes to make deep throat. But, as I was covered, I didn’t feel much and after 5 minutes or so stopped her to start intercourse.
She put some lub on the condom and in her and mounted me Cow girl style.
It was good and she was making the effort while I was enjoying that young beauty. After a while we changed and went to missionary and then on our sides for rear entrance.
That was good and I couldn’t stand it very long and came quite good.
She stood up, took the condom off, cleaned me and came back for a little rest with me.
Lina claims to be 21. She maintains herself in Alejas where she has been working for a year now. She told me they are 3 permanent girls and 5 or 6 that rotate all the time.
She is doing well and has 2 to 5 customers a day. She doesn’t study but thinks of learning English soon. She is a real Paisa and come from the north of the city (after Bello), she told me that she has a novio for 8 years! As she is so young, I asked her how could it be? And she told me that they are together since she is 13! Of course, no one (family and novio) knows what she is doing during her day time. .
As the time was over, she invited me to a shower but I was OK and declined the cold water. She took her shower, came back, we got dressed, kissed and said good bye.
Cheers
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Too Jaded, try again. You should be able to get a business class ticket from Miami to Medellin on both American and Avianca. You should have no problem getting a IAD/MDE business class ticket on American's web site. If you use Avianca for MIA/MDE, you may need to go through a travel agent or book two tickets.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]No matter what dates or criterion I put into Travelocity I cannot find a carrier with business class service. I am flying out of Dulles (IAD) which is long enough to justify the expense in my mind, but apparently no one flies from Washington to Colombia in style.
What gives? Can someone explain what I must do to avoid flying in a puddle jumper next to someone and their clucking chicken?[/QUOTE]
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Hey gents, anybody know or know how to contact
The gentleman from Montana that owns Apt 1502 in San Pedro Alcantara in Medellin. Have some info on his Apt. but nobody seems to know how to contact him.
PM me if you know him.
Sandman
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Medellin Hotel Assistance Please
I have looked at all of the regular hotels listed for Medellin by Google search, and travel sites, and am having trouble coming up with something that I like...especially one without a chica fee, which I find very annoying.
I'm looking for a very nice room with some space, nice well-located hotel that can be small but has a bit of a wow factor. Prefer not to be around a lot of other US tourists, something that feels like it's local, Spanish, etc. Breakfast would be nice?
Any seasoned Medellin travelers have any interesting suggestions. Any intel on renting a nice apartment with services for 3 to 4 days...might be interesting...
Thank You!
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[QUOTE=Sandman0011]The gentleman from Montana that owns Apt 1502 in San Pedro Alcantara in Medellin. Have some info on his Apt. but nobody seems to know how to contact him.
PM me if you know him.
Sandman[/QUOTE]I do, how can I help you?
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Can you PM me
With his contact info or have him contact me?
Thanks,
Sandman
[QUOTE=Zaza69]I do, how can I help you?[/QUOTE]
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More El Centro casas
I always seem to end up at Afrodita's when I tour the casas to the north and east of the Parque Bolivar. Although the location hasn't changed, I think they're now calling themselves Masajes Zandalay. The lineup is never the best though I've found some gems here. Here are some photos of Gina, a really good performer.
Also attached are body shots of another chica from New Life, Isabela, who provided anal and BBBJ for a 10, 000 tip. OK body, hot face, mercenary attitude.
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[QUOTE=Paul Frankl]I'm looking for a very nice room with some space, nice well-located hotel that can be small but has a bit of a wow factor. Prefer not to be around a lot of other US tourists, something that feels like it's local, Spanish, etc. Breakfast would be nice?
Any seasoned Medellin travelers have any interesting suggestions. Any intel on renting a nice apartment with services for 3 to 4 days...might be interesting...
Thank You![/QUOTE]LA HAVANA VIEJA HOTEL in EL POBLADO
Cl 10Sur # 43A-07
Telephone : (57) (4) 3212557
Fax : (57) (4) 3216349
You should be able to speak some Espanol. A very pleasant staff, attached restaurant/bar which serves up free breakfast, wifi service and desktop available, laundry, a mix of tourists from around the world, chica friendly, mini-fridge loaded with goodies the chicas all seemed to love without charging you an arm and a leg for the beers and snacks, NO CHICA FEE, also two blocks to supermarket Carrefour, a short walk to Oviedo mall. The owner of the restaurant owns a restaurant in Parque Lleras, and I believe guest get 20% off if they stop over to eat at Parque Lleras. They also have Cuban cigars for sale at the hotel; single or a box if you want.
Take a look [url]http://good-times.webshots.com/album/561963099NMtgMa?vhost=good-times[/url]
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Traylor Park's fotos
Those fotos are from a Carulla supermercado, not a Carrefour.
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[QUOTE=Nortelx]Those fotos are from a Carulla supermercado, not a Carrefour.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
I made the corrections.
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[QUOTE=Acuerpado]I always seem to end up at Afrodita's when I tour the casas to the north and east of the Parque Bolivar. Although the location hasn't changed, I think they're now calling themselves Masajes Zandalay. The lineup is never the best though I've found some gems here. Here are some photos of Gina, a really good performer.
Also attached are body shots of another chica from New Life, Isabela, who provided anal and BBBJ for a 10, 000 tip. OK body, hot face, mercenary attitude.[/QUOTE]How mercenary is a girl who gives up her ass for $5 us.
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Business class
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]No matter what dates or criterion I put into Travelocity I cannot find a carrier with business class service. I am flying out of Dulles (IAD) which is long enough to justify the expense in my mind, but apparently no one flies from Washington to Colombia in style.
What gives? Can someone explain what I must do to avoid flying in a puddle jumper next to someone and their clucking chicken?[/QUOTE]You could fly to Panama city in Business class and do a short hop from there (in cattle class:-) to few cities in Colombia. Just a thought.
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Centro Casa Map
Hi all,
I hope it works now.
The foto is my first prototype for centro in Medellin. It includes a map and addresses for all the casas and strips clubs I am aware of at this time. It is an idea of El Castillo. It is a work in progress.
The map is small due to the upload limitations of this site. The original is available at the Medellin Mansion and EL Castillo.
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[QUOTE=Wisslis]Hi all,
I hope it works now.
The foto is my first prototype for centro in Medellin. It includes a map and addresses for all the casas and strips clubs I am aware of at this time. It is an idea of El Castillo. It is a work in progress.
The map is small due to the upload limitations of this site. The original is available at the Medellin Mansion and EL Castillo.[/QUOTE]Set it up and just drop a link.
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Great Idea..
[QUOTE=Escort King]Set it up and just drop a link.[/QUOTE]Now all we need is a map of the entire city. Unless of course your providing this. In this "pending aprroval" map.
In my 21 day trip. I finally learned my way around MDE. And feel quite comfortable getting around. I'd recomend anyone just study a map for awhile. To get an idea of where your at. Since I'm ex military. I guess maps just are part of my life. As are my new MDE ho's. What a trip! How many of you guys were at Mango new years Eve? . Danced "barely" till 7am. Couldn't wait to get the fuck out! But you know how are chicks are. They dance till the music stops.
Who's in MDE for Febuary!
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Too Jaded,
Try American Airlines if you want to fly Business class to Medellin. I have used AA to fly to MDE using Business Class and paid with frequent flier miles (60K).
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Map informations
It has taken a lot of time and hard work to make this map.
I made this map from the original Medellin Map. I scanned the map and adjusted the size.
I have added all of the casas to the map in there correct location with address. All of the main streets are in dark yellow. Togehter with colombian friends I am adding other important parts. Like shopping centers, good restaurants, discotecs, churchs, sport places, bus terminals, universities, and, and and.
At moment I am creating a general Map for Medellin. From the bus terminal norte still at Itagui/Envigado at the sur. Within genreal map I will add different smaller maps center of each individual area. Includingone from Laureles and one from Poblado, with detail information. First I will finish all of the detailed maps and then I will add in more information about hotels and other important places. Within the next 2 months I will have all of the maps with detailed information.
Yesterday I went with El Castillo and took photos of all the front doors and addresses of each casa to make it easier to find The idea is to have more înformation on the back of the map
Don-Pedrinio
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Medellin - Centro - Map
The map is small due to the upload limitations of this site. The original is available at the Medellin Mansion and EL Castillo.
Now I have changed all errors.
Don Pedrinio
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[QUOTE=Wisslis]The map is small due to the upload limitations of this site. The original is available at the Medellin Mansion and EL Castillo.
Now I have changed all errors.
Don Pedrinio[/QUOTE]Thank you for your effort!
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[QUOTE=Wisslis]The map is small due to the upload limitations of this site. The original is available at the Medellin Mansion and EL Castillo.
Now I have changed all errors.
Don Pedrinio[/QUOTE]I am having a problem printing it clearly but since I was there, I will have no problems hitting every place in order next trip. Overall, you did a great job on the map.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Wisslis]It has taken a lot of time and hard work to make this map.
I made this map from the original Medellin Map. I scanned the map and adjusted the size.
I have added all of the casas to the map in there correct location with address. All of the main streets are in dark yellow. Togehter with colombian friends I am adding other important parts. Like shopping centers, good restaurants, discotecs, churchs, sport places, bus terminals, universities, and, and and.
At moment I am creating a general Map for Medellin. From the bus terminal norte still at Itagui/Envigado at the sur. Within genreal map I will add different smaller maps center of each individual area. Includingone from Laureles and one from Poblado, with detail information. First I will finish all of the detailed maps and then I will add in more information about hotels and other important places. Within the next 2 months I will have all of the maps with detailed information.
Yesterday I went with El Castillo and took photos of all the front doors and addresses of each casa to make it easier to find The idea is to have more înformation on the back of the map
Don-Pedrinio[/QUOTE]Let me tell you, while walking around with this map, you will see 100's of places to get something to eat, so stop and get something to eat, The casa Athena is attached to a nice new motel and we usually pay the extra $5 to use it. They have nice new bathrooms so don't be afraid to eat the local food.
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Medellin & Easter
I have a few questions for those of you who are more experienced than me with the Medellin sex scene. I am planning another trip to Cartagena, with a probable 3 day side trip to Medellin. This will be the first time I have been in Colombia near a major religious holiday. I am planning a 3 or 4 day stay in Medellin. I can make the trip in the last week of February or during the first or second week of March.
Holy Week, (Easter), is in mid March this year. As Colombia is a Catholic country, I was wondering if going in early in March and staying until the middle of March is a bad idea or a good idea. Do the girls go home for the holidays a week before Easter or do they stay in Cartagena and Medellin until Easter Sunday? How does the week preceding Easter affect the availability of the ladies, both pros and pregagos in Medellin? Does anyone know when the colleges give the students Easter vacation, as I assume some of the ladies might head to Cartagena to make a few quick bucks before going home to their families for Easter Sunday. When is college Easter break in Colombia and how does that vacation for the college girls affect the sex scene in Cartagena and Medellin?
Last question. A guy I know was in Bogota a year or so ago for 7 days. He claims he hired an English speaking cab driver to be his driver and translator for the entire time he was in Bogota. He also claims he got this service, (car, driver, and translator) for 100 dollars a day. Although I have never needed a full time translator to get by in Cartagena, I was wondering if it might be better if I had one in Medellin. Have any of you had experiences with hiring translators to stay with you while you mongered and what was the going rate per day or night for this type of service? I have never needed it in Cartagena on my prior trips, but if the service was available and reasonable, I might have considered it.
Thanks……..
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[QUOTE=Pussy Luver]Last question. A guy I know was in Bogota a year or so ago for 7 days. He claims he hired an English speaking cab driver to be his driver and translator for the entire time he was in Bogota. He also claims he got this service, (car, driver, and translator) for 100 dollars a day. Although I have never needed a full time translator to get by in Cartagena, I was wondering if it might be better if I had one in Medellin. Have any of you had experiences with hiring translators to stay with you while you mongered and what was the going rate per day or night for this type of service? I have never needed it in Cartagena on my prior trips, but if the service was available and reasonable, I might have considered it.
Thanks……..[/QUOTE]I use to have a full time guide/translator/driver. I was paying $100/day for his services also. That included everything. He would stay with me for about 10 hours a day/night. All the time. It was nice having someone to help out with locations and spanish.
The bad news is this guy is going to be up your culo for the entire trip. I didnt like that. Also I was picking up all his meals and drinks. I didnt like that. And anytime he was in my room he was always begging for my shit like it was a damn trunk sale. And GOD always trying to sell me something, an apartment, a store, pushing his girls on me((some were hot)) but always selling also trying to scam. Then he tried to say how we were friends and all and make me feel bad. I didnt like that either. I like to keep it much more businessllike now. I have a guy that picks me up from the airport for 45,000 and doesnt say much. He gets me what i need to survive for a week and I dont see him unless I really need him for something. He cost 20,000 per hour. The other guy was always up my ass; "come on let go to breakfest, come on lets look at apartments, come on lets go to this place, or that place" F- that bro im on vacation.
If you want my advice DONT go with the $100/day crap. Its asking for trouble, plus you will see that after the first 2 days you get tired of having this mucher on your ass 24/7
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[QUOTE=Jose Lima]I use to have a full time guide/translator/driver. I was paying $100/day for his services also. That included everything. He would stay with me for about 10 hours a day/night. All the time. It was nice having someone to help out with locations and spanish.
The bad news is this guy is going to be up your culo for the entire trip. I didnt like that. Also I was picking up all his meals and drinks. I didnt like that. And anytime he was in my room he was always begging for my shit like it was a damn trunk sale. And GOD always trying to sell me something, an apartment, a store, pushing his girls on me((some were hot)) but always selling also trying to scam. Then he tried to say how we were friends and all and make me feel bad. I didnt like that either. I like to keep it much more businessllike now. I have a guy that picks me up from the airport for 45,000 and doesnt say much. He gets me what i need to survive for a week and I dont see him unless I really need him for something. He cost 20,000 per hour. The other guy was always up my ass; "come on let go to breakfest, come on lets look at apartments, come on lets go to this place, or that place" F- that bro im on vacation.
If you want my advice DONT go with the $100/day crap. Its asking for trouble, plus you will see that after the first 2 days you get tired of having this mucher on your ass 24/7[/QUOTE]When I was there this time last year we used a driver. Same rate but ours was cool and we took turns paying. There were three of us splitting it so was real cheap.
Yes we bought him food and drinks. And even a girl one afternoon. But he was not selling us anything and had a great friendly attitude. Black Sultan what was his name?
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Just a thought..
[QUOTE=Pussy Luver]I have a few questions for those of you who are more experienced than me with the Medellin sex scene. I am planning another trip to Cartagena, with a probable 3 day side trip to Medellin. This will be the first time I have been in Colombia near a major religious holiday. I am planning a 3 or 4 day stay in Medellin. I can make the trip in the last week of February or during the first or second week of March.
Holy Week, (Easter), is in mid March this year. As Colombia is a Catholic country, I was wondering if going in early in March and staying until the middle of March is a bad idea or a good idea. Do the girls go home for the holidays a week before Easter or do they stay in Cartagena and Medellin until Easter Sunday? How does the week preceding Easter affect the availability of the ladies, both pros and pregagos in Medellin? Does anyone know when the colleges give the students Easter vacation, as I assume some of the ladies might head to Cartagena to make a few quick bucks before going home to their families for Easter Sunday. When is college Easter break in Colombia and how does that vacation for the college girls affect the sex scene in Cartagena and Medellin?
Last question. A guy I know was in Bogota a year or so ago for 7 days. He claims he hired an English speaking cab driver to be his driver and translator for the entire time he was in Bogota. He also claims he got this service, (car, driver, and translator) for 100 dollars a day. Although I have never needed a full time translator to get by in Cartagena, I was wondering if it might be better if I had one in Medellin. Have any of you had experiences with hiring translators to stay with you while you mongered and what was the going rate per day or night for this type of service? I have never needed it in Cartagena on my prior trips, but if the service was available and reasonable, I might have considered it.
Thanks……..[/QUOTE]In my opinion, the play for pay scence in Cartegena will never match Cali or Medellin.
Keep in mind. Not just my fellow americans. But ex-patriots (Americans living in Colombia) and Colombians.
In my opinion, it's best to stay in Medellin. All your time! 3/4 days is not enough. I love it there. I've logged in only 4 trips to MDE and 13 to Colombia total. If there is another city I should vist. Tell me! Because Medellin. Is my favorite so far.
And as far as hiring someone? Hell hire me. I work for 50 a day. And you pay for lodging. I speak spanish! LOL. Any excuse to go back sooner as I'll be broke for most of 2008. Blame Hurricane Katrina Hurricane Rita. And that ***** Wilma! They all Blew my houses down!
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I have a driver in Medellin who is excellent. He does not try to push any bullshit on you. He charges 20,000 pesos an hour and speaks perfect English. You can call him as needed or pay him daily. PM me if you want his number.
[QUOTE=Pussy Luver]Last question. A guy I know was in Bogota a year or so ago for 7 days. He claims he hired an English speaking cab driver to be his driver and translator for the entire time he was in Bogota. He also claims he got this service, (car, driver, and translator) for 100 dollars a day. Although I have never needed a full time translator to get by in Cartagena, I was wondering if it might be better if I had one in Medellin. Have any of you had experiences with hiring translators to stay with you while you mongered and what was the going rate per day or night for this type of service? I have never needed it in Cartagena on my prior trips, but if the service was available and reasonable, I might have considered it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jose Lima]I use to have a full time guide/translator/driver. I was paying $100/day for his services also. That included everything. He would stay with me for about 10 hours a day/night. All the time. It was nice having someone to help out with locations and spanish.
The bad news is this guy is going to be up your culo for the entire trip. I didnt like that. Also I was picking up all his meals and drinks. I didnt like that. And anytime he was in my room he was always begging for my shit like it was a damn trunk sale. And GOD always trying to sell me something, an apartment, a store, pushing his girls on me((some were hot)) but always selling also trying to scam. Then he tried to say how we were friends and all and make me feel bad. I didnt like that either. I like to keep it much more businessllike now. I have a guy that picks me up from the airport for 45,000 and doesnt say much. He gets me what i need to survive for a week and I dont see him unless I really need him for something. He cost 20,000 per hour. The other guy was always up my ass; "come on let go to breakfest, come on lets look at apartments, come on lets go to this place, or that place" F- that bro im on vacation.
If you want my advice DONT go with the $100/day crap. Its asking for trouble, plus you will see that after the first 2 days you get tired of having this mucher on your ass 24/7[/QUOTE]I have a guy that takes me around for 18,000 an hour. I use him at night only and usually I hit the 5 stripclubs of Centro, then cruise San diego for streetwalkers and then check out Mayorista. I can be out 3 - 6 hours and we never have to buy this guy anything to drink or eat.
daytime, we never need a driver, not ever!
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A nice and interesting afternoon in Medellín (Karen again)
You may not know that former Medellin’s Mayor decided to build 5 new libraries in difficult places of Medellin.
Construction took place between 2006 and 2007 and now these libraries are opened and can be visited.
You can have a better idea of this very interesting project here: [url]http://www.reddebibliotecas.org.Co/sites/Bibliotecas/Paginas/ParquesBiblioteca.Aspx[/url]
I have already visited the "Spanish" one at the top of the Metro Cable and it has been so far the most impressive one for Architecture.
I wanted to know the other one and fixed a meeting with Karen at the Botero’s café from where we would go and visit these places.
We met around 2pm and took the metro to see our first library of the day: San Javier.
It was not very far from the center but we had to take a short ride in Taxi to get there.
I was a little bit disappointed by that library as the architecture was not as impressive as the "Spanish" one. But still it was not bad. I took some pictures and we then decided to visit a second library, this one reachable by Metro, La Ladera (or Leon De Grieff).
That library was, in my opinion, much better than San javier and I appreciate the architectural creation.
After the visit we decided to go back to the center and have a nice Ice cream on Junin.
It was already dark when we finished our ice cream and as we were tired we decided to go to my hotel.
Karen had warned me that she wouldn’t be able to stay TLN with me because she had found no one to take care her kid for all the night, and we both knew that we would take some great time together in my hotel.
We start on the balcony from where we could see La Strada’s mall’s restaurants and could be seen by them! But it kind of excites us and we fuck on the balcony. She was so wet that I had no problem to get in and start screwing while she was holding the balcony’s bar. We did that for maybe 10 minutes, looking if someone would see us form the restaurants but I think that we remained unseen.
After that we decided to have a shower. The bathroom is build with a small wood tablet in front of the shower where I left my camera and made a movie.
Well we made all our (mine) favourite games HJ, Straight, Rear, Anal, fingering, . It was awesome and we finished the hot water and had to stop as the water was getting cold after 20 minutes. .
We then carry on our games on the bed and made all our classical. .
I finally came very strongly, yelling and spreading my milk everywhere.
After a 5 minutes rest, we took a cold shower and went out to have supper in a very nice restaurant: The blue marlin.
We had sea-food and talk about everything as we always do.
That time, Karen told me about a few casas in Medellin and Bogota and explained me that she knows a lot of girls and that she is always happy to present a friend of her to any interested lonesome guy.
I knew already that she was doing so because Acuerpado told me months ago, and I also have received some PM on Karen, but it was nice and interesting to talk about this subject.
We left the place at midnight, took a taxi that let me at my hotel and took Karen away from me.
I have made a movie from our shower.
Col Bog & Karen’s Shower
Size : 39,2Mo
Length : 10’
Quality : ok, but it’s a big file and the all thing is behind the sower’s glass door or let say that it is more soft than hard… You’ll see Rear fuck, HJ, Karen fingering me.
Hope you’ll like it, thanks for telling me.
[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK14664785709e1bc34[/url]
If any of you want to meet Karen, just PM me.
Cheers
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Medellín prepago
This chica has never worked in any clubs or casas, so I guess that makes her a prepago. She came to my hotel room a few times for an hour or 2 and I'd give her between 60, 000 and 70, 000. Gave me the same old story- just had a kid, needs cash. I promised her I'd send her some gringos. Too bad she's horribly unphotogenic. Send me a message if you want her contact info.
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[QUOTE=Acuerpado]This chica has never worked in any clubs or casas, so I guess that makes her a prepago. She came to my hotel room a few times for an hour or 2 and I'd give her between 60, 000 and 70, 000. Gave me the same old story- just had a kid, needs cash. I promised her I'd send her some gringos. Too bad she's horribly unphotogenic. Send me a message if you want her contact info.[/QUOTE]I have many friends that would do her for that very good price.
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For Wisslis
[QUOTE=Wisslis]The map is small due to the upload limitations of this site. The original is available at the Medellin Mansion and EL Castillo.
Now I have changed all errors.
Don Pedrinio[/QUOTE]Hi Wisslis.
What a great job.
I definitely would like to have your map in my palm.
As this picture is too small to be read, could you post the original big one please ?
Thanks in advance.
PS : If you have problems to do so, I can do it for you where I put my movies so any interested person could download it.
By the way, you haven't turned your PM on.
Cheers
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A nice morning in Medellin (Luisa & Lorena)
That morning, I was free and decided to visit the botanical garden of Medellin.
I arrived there by taxi around 9:30 pm, paid my entrance fee (4K) and start the visit. The garden is under restoration and is part of the big decision, taken by the former Mayor of Medellin, to have one of the best Botanical Garden in the world!
To say the truth, I’ve seen better Botanical garden, for example Bogota looks better to me, but still, the Medellin’s Garden is worth the visit.
I appreciate the orchideorama with a spectacular wood construction that remind orchids. , the bamboo section is poor (especially compared with the incredible Parque del café from Armenia), The desert section is not bad and so on.
You can have a look to their (nice) Internet site here: [url]http://www.jbmed.org/[/url]
It took me 150 minutes to visit the Garden and then I walk till the very close Metro station and went back to the center.
I started to explore casas like Bell suite Car 45 56-45, Sexi Car 45 57-55, Aiffe Car 45 58-69, but couldn’t find an interesting girl to entertain me.
Finally, I walked till the De Grieff Avenue and found a charming cute young beauty: Luisa. We talked a little bit and quickly defined that she was ok to give me the minimum I was expecting that day (BBBJ, DATY & pictures) so we walked till a motel near bye.
Luisa is thin, have a tiny belt and a nice face. Her boobs are natural (small) and she asks me 40K for 60 minutes.
Her oral technique is ok and she bearded my DATY. We then started the intercourse and she behaved well, moaning and moving her butt according to me.
I tried to convince her to accept BBFS but there was no way and I screw her covered. As I had had such a wonderful time the night before with Karen, I was enable to come covered with Luisa.
When time was over, I just put my clothes on, kissed good bye and left. Walking out of the motel, I noticed a real nice girl that I had seen once or twice before. That girl rocks! I have to try her on my next visit.
I walked back to the center and decided to have a look at a Casa that Karen recommended me the night before. I called the number she gave me and got the address: Calle 61 53-78, took a taxi and arrived there shortly.
Karen had recommended me a friend of her: Lorena telling me that I’d like her. Once there, I asked for Lorena and was presented to a very nice doll, just the way I love them! I told her that she was recommended by Karen but I could clearly see that she didn’t know who Karen was. So I called Karen and passed her to Lorena. After 5 minutes, I realized that this Lorena was not Karen’s friends. Her friend was not there that day, but I was glad to meet that Lorena. So we talk a little bit and as I was feeling horny and stiff (thanks Sidenafil), we decided to go to the room for an hour.
I had discussed for BBBJ, DATY and pictures (without head) before. Of course, she promised me that she would be hot once in the room.
Once there, Lorena kept her promise. She was really very HOT! She sucked me like a porno actress, very good and very hard. If I wouldn’t have been so sexually tired, I would have come immediately. I then gave her a strong DATY and she asked me to do it a little bit "lighter", I did of course and she seemed to appreciate it moaning a lot.
Then, it was time for intercourse and I tried to convince her (tip) to go BBFS but she refused. So I let her cover me and she started Cow Girl, very good, very porno even with condom. Then missionary, rear (no anal) on our side.
After 15 or 20 minutes of this, I was breathless, sweating and exhausted.
I tried to make a brake, but Lorena wanted more.
Unfortunately, I knew I wouldn’t come with the condom. I asked her to go back BBBJ and she did but there was no way.
At the end she told me " let’s masturbate" and she put her pussy close form my face, introduced 2 fingers in her pussy and start to move them moaning quite loud. I was so desperate to come that I took my best friend and start to masturbate as well.
5 minutes later I was coming quite good.
After a break to recover, we showered and got dressed.
She asked me when would I be back? I told her that I don’t repeat girls if they don’t go BBFS, and guess what? She said OK, next time we’ll go BBFS!
I will certainly repeat her then.
I have made a small video from my meeting with Lorena.
Col Bog & Lorena’s Doggy
Size : 3,7Mo
Length : 0’38”
Quality : poor, pixelated, I have destroyed the original movie before checking the result of compression…
[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK82274786f3ba1930b[/url]
If interested for Lorena, PM for her cell.
Cheers
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Medellin maps and other maps from Colombia
Hello,
I found this site and order myself a map of Medellin. It is pretty comprehensive in details. The size of a regular state road map here in the states. I believe it took about a week or two to get. If I remember right with shipping it was around $20. 00. Last time I was in Medellin I could not find but a couple of cheesy ones.
[url]http://www.omnimap.com/catalog/int/columbia.htm[/url]
I hope this helps someone.
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More el Centro casas
Here's the business card from New Life and another chica from Geisha's, which is on the same block as Afrodita's.
Geisha's is business-like with the cute girl sitting at a desk in the reception room who shows you prices in a notebook. The lineup is good but the service is always very good. This is the place if you're looking for a threesome- I don't recall the exact price but it wasn't a lot and not much more than the price for 1 chica.
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[QUOTE=Acuerpado]Here's the business card from New Life and another chica from Geisha's, which is on the same block as Afrodita's.
Geisha's is business-like with the cute girl sitting at a desk in the reception room who shows you prices in a notebook. The lineup is good but the service is always very good. This is the place if you're looking for a threesome- I don't recall the exact price but it wasn't a lot and not much more than the price for 1 chica.[/QUOTE]30,000 for that? Give me 4 of that every day!
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[QUOTE=Acuerpado]Here's the business card from New Life and another chica from Geisha's, which is on the same block as Afrodita's.
Geisha's is business-like with the cute girl sitting at a desk in the reception room who shows you prices in a notebook. The lineup is good but the service is always very good. This is the place if you're looking for a threesome- I don't recall the exact price but it wasn't a lot and not much more than the price for 1 chica.[/QUOTE]KamaSutraas has the 45k for 2 for the hour
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BEWARE of Personal Drivers / Private Taxi Guys!
Ok Guys:
I just wanted to post this as I felt I needed to add my 2 cents after reading Jose Lima's report which I agree 100%!
Here is the deal. I understand that these Former American Residents that are now so called independent drivers in Medellin are trying to make a buck and thats great! I have no problem whatsoever if a guy is trying to make a buck. But HOW much is fair?
With that said, I feel that I myself have had bad experiences with a few of these "drivers". First I will state that I'm Latin and speak Spanish and DO not require translator services. I would start off using a guy to pick me up at the airport. I do not know about you guys but after I just traveled 10 hours to get to Medellin but its a little disturbing to be sitting there waiting for the guy to show up only to give some lame ass excuse why he isn't on time. Jose Lima stated that some of the drivers make statements like "Hey bro we are friends". I believe they are tooooooo comfortable and forget they are hired help! This is why I change up drivers.
In the event you use another driver for anything they get all bent out of shape. I tell them that I do NOT put all my eggs in one basket and like to share my business with a few drivers thereby doing my best to keep them honest for us all! Just recently (As Jose Lima eluded too) I used a driver and I told him that if he wanted to join us for a FREE meal at a nice restaurant with my chick or he could wait out in the car but he could'nt have both. Meaning I pay 20K an hour and I pay his bill at the Restaurant too? NO way! I already have a date!
I think what I'm getting at here is that they need to remember that they (Taxi Drivers) left the USA and are NOW working in Colombia. They need to accept there Colombian Economy and they are NOT back in America! However they fell very comfortable asking for you to pick up a bottle of liquor for them from Panama or the USA. Yes, we are all n ice guys here I and I originally fell for it and did favors but now I feel these guys are taking advantage and it would be in our best interest to stand united on keeping the Taxi / personal drivers on check!
I just feel that these drivers are starting to take advantage and I wanted to warn my fellow travelers here on this site.
As Jose Stated they are always trying to hook me up with their girl, their rental apartment, some business investment and they always seems to have a "guy" that will handle everyone of our needs for a price! Of course for the inflated (Gringo) price!
I travel to Medellin on an average of once even twice a month so I have a VERY good idea of what is going on. Looks to me that there is a greater influx of Americans and sharks like these former American taxi guys waiting with open arms to take advantage.
Just remember guys when we pay too much it just makes it a bad situation all the way around. Case in point. Loutrons!! The price now is outragous and the service is not nearly as good as it used to be!
Beware and lets stand united!
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Second time Question
I made the post below several days ago and have still yet to get an answer from any of you experienced mongers. Some of you that live in Cartagena, or have been there over easter, must have some thoughts you can share with me on this. Thanks.
"I have a few questions for those of you who are more experienced than me with the Medellin sex scene. I am planning another trip to Cartagena, with a probable 3 day side trip to Medellin. This will be the first time I have been in Colombia near a major religious holiday. I am planning a 3 or 4 day stay in Medellin. I can make the trip in the last week of February or during the first or second week of March.
Holy Week, (Easter), is in mid March this year. As Colombia is a Catholic country, I was wondering if going in early in March and staying until the middle of March is a bad idea or a good idea. Do the girls go home for the holidays a week before Easter or do they stay in Cartagena and Medellin until Easter Sunday? How does the week preceding Easter affect the availability of the ladies, both pros and pregagos in Medellin? Does anyone know when the colleges give the students Easter vacation, as I assume some of the ladies might head to Cartagena to make a few quick bucks before going home to their families for Easter Sunday. When is college Easter break in Colombia and how does that vacation for the college girls affect the sex scene in Cartagena and Medellin?"
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What Happened to Actual Reports?
People who use this guide come for advice, philosophical debates are great but can they take place elsewhere, another thread maybe?
We should be saying something like this.
I was in MDE. Good? Bad? Who? What? When? Where? Why? How? Tips? Amazing experiences that would most likely not take place on American soil.
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Greetings everyone,
This post was in reference to all the posts regarding some member's decisions not to use a condom during sex, said posts having now been moved to the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1084"]Safe Sex Thread[/url].
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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For Pussy Luver
[QUOTE=Pussy Luver]I made the post below several days ago and have still yet to get an answer from any of you experienced mongers. Some of you that live in Cartagena, or have been there over easter, must have some thoughts you can share with me on this. Thanks.
"I have a few questions for those of you who are more experienced than me with the Medellin sex scene. I am planning another trip to Cartagena, with a probable 3 day side trip to Medellin. This will be the first time I have been in Colombia near a major religious holiday. I am planning a 3 or 4 day stay in Medellin. I can make the trip in the last week of February or during the first or second week of March.
Holy Week, (Easter), is in mid March this year. As Colombia is a Catholic country, I was wondering if going in early in March and staying until the middle of March is a bad idea or a good idea. Do the girls go home for the holidays a week before Easter or do they stay in Cartagena and Medellin until Easter Sunday? How does the week preceding Easter affect the availability of the ladies, both pros and pregagos in Medellin? Does anyone know when the colleges give the students Easter vacation, as I assume some of the ladies might head to Cartagena to make a few quick bucks before going home to their families for Easter Sunday. When is college Easter break in Colombia and how does that vacation for the college girls affect the sex scene in Cartagena and Medellin?"[/QUOTE]Hi Pussy Luver.
I wouldn't come to Colombia for the Holly Week if I could do it some other time.
During holly week, most (rich) people go out for a week vacation.
Everything is more expansive, especially if it´s a touristic place like Cartagena.
For our friends, the girls, to say the truth, I have no clue on what they do during Holly Week, but I doubt they would stay in the major cities (Bogota, Medellin, Cali, ...) as most of their customers are probably out.
I think that Cartagena must be fully booked by now for Holly Week.
Conclusion, come in February if you can.
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Opium89=Winner71?
Jackson,
Is it just me, or is Opium89 the same as Winner71? It's the same sanctimonious, anti-bareback drivel as before; even the same writing style! Or am I off-base here?
Thanks
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[blue]Greetings Everyone,
Leave it to the Colombia forum members to highlight the need for yet another Forum Rule.
Effective immediately, Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1084"]Safe Sex Thread[/url]. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However...
In addition, Members may not repeatedly post or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.
In other words, I don't want to hear anymore about the subject except in the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1084"]Safe Sex Thread[/url].
If you want to criticize another member for not following what you consider to be safe sex practices, then send him a PM.
Actually, I've been considering this for quite some time because I believe that it does no good to criticize members for not following what other members may consider to be safe sex practices for the following reasons:
1. It's a disincentive for members to contribute.
2. It never serves to change any one's behavior.
3. It almost always leads to arguments.
4. It provides a "cover" for Serial Antagonists to provoke other members.
Accordingly, I have moved the previous "safe sex complaints" to the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1084"]Safe Sex Thread[/url].
To address the usual arguments:
1. If a guy wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's his risk and his business.
2. If a girl wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's her risk and her business.
3. If [u]YOU[/u] want to protect yourself from either or both of the aforementioned parties, then [u]YOU[/u] should use a condom for sex all the time and thus [u]YOU[/u] will be protected from the allegedly unsafe sex practices of the other parties.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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I am LMAO!
[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Greetings Everyone,
Leave it to the Colombia forum antagonists to highlight the need for yet another Forum Rule.
Effective immediately, Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1084"]Safe Sex Thread[/url]. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However...
In addition, Members may not repeatedly post or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.
In other words, I don't want to hear anymore about the subject except in the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1084"]Safe Sex Thread[/url].
If you want to criticize another member for not following what you consider to be safe sex practices, then send him a PM.
Actually, I've been considering this for quite some time because I believe that it does no good to criticize members for not following what other members may consider to be safe sex practices for the following reasons:
1. It's a disincentive for members to contribute.
2. It never serves to change any one's behavior.
3. It almost always leads to arguments.
4. It provides a "cover" for Serial Antagonists to provoke other members.
Accordingly, I have moved the previous "safe sex complaints" to the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1084"]Safe Sex Thread[/url].
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]I find it extremely funny that Jackson has to implement this rule. Leave it to the Colombia forum to come up with this scenario.
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For Jackson
[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Greetings Everyone,
If you want to criticize another member for not following what you consider to be safe sex practices, then send him a PM.
Actually, I've been considering this for quite some time because I believe that it does no good to criticize members for not following what other members may consider to be safe sex practices for the following reasons:
1. It's a disincentive for members to contribute.
2. It never serves to change any one's behavior.
3. It almost always leads to arguments.
4. It provides a "cover" for Serial Antagonists to provoke other members.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]Thanks.
I fully agree with your points.
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[QUOTE=Ezinho]Jackson,
Is it just me, or is Opium89 the same as Winner71? It's the same sanctimonious, anti-bareback drivel as before; even the same writing style! Or am I off-base here?
Thanks[/QUOTE][blue]Ezinho,
I doubt it, given that Opium89 has been a member since 2005, but OTOH his only 4 posts have been "safe sex complaints" posted in this thread.
Opium89, if you are not a Winner71 alias, then please excuse these potentially unjustified suspicions by understanding that I am working to rid the Colombia forum of the Serial Antagonists who seek to destroy it in their quest to discourage anyone from visiting Colombia, which they consider to be their private playground.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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Karmasutra
[QUOTE=Escort King]KamaSutraas has the 45k for 2 for the hour[/QUOTE]It went up to 50k. Still a great deal. I like the girls this place has. They like their work.
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I am not a "Winner71", whoever that might be. I had visited this board once a few years back and only recently began looking around. Thanks for the clearing it up for these folks.
[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Ezinho,
I doubt it, given that Opium89 has been a member since 2005, but OTOH his only 4 posts have been "safe sex complaints" posted in this thread.
Opium89, if you are not a Winner71 alias, then please excuse these potentially unjustified suspicions by understanding that I am working to rid the Colombia forum of the Serial Antagonists who seek to destroy it in their quest to discourage anyone from visiting Colombia, which they consider to be their private playground.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ElCastillo]It went up to 50k. Still a great deal. I like the girls this place has. They like their work.[/QUOTE]That is only 25 american dollars. You can't beat that price with a baseball bat.
I went there on my first trip and had a decent time with two chicas there.
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Airport
Pardon the silly question but it seems that there are 2 airports in Medellin, which one is the good one?
Jose Marie Cordova or
Enrique Olaya
Thank you.
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Jose Ma Cordoba is outside Medellin, 30 min ride, in a close town called Rionegro. Olaya is in Medellin. The first one attends national and intl. flights, and large planes. The second is local (regional), mostly for Cessnas, Fokkers and other small airplanes, as well as helicopters. Due to the fact that Medellin is a basin, surrounded by mountains on all sides, this first airport has reported lots of accidents, reason for the construction of the other one outside.
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[QUOTE=Jiooooo]Pardon the silly question but it seems that there are 2 airports in Medellin, which one is the good one?
Jose Marie Cordova or
Enrique Olaya
Thank you.[/QUOTE]JMC is the international airport in Rio Negro about 30 KM outside the city. Most airlines fly here. The other airport is in Medellin and only a few airlines fly there and with smaller planes. No international traffc.
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[QUOTE=Jiooooo]Pardon the silly question but it seems that there are 2 airports in Medellin, which one is the good one?
Jose Marie Cordova or
Enrique Olaya
Thank you.[/QUOTE]None of them are good LOL, But Jose Marie Cordova is the main airport for international travel. Enrique is more for domestic flights.
Superboy
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Jose Maria Cordova Airport (MDE) is in Rio Negro, approximately 45 minutes by cab from Poblado. This airport handles international as well as domestic flights. Airlines such as American, Avianca, and Copa/Aero Republica service this airport.
Olaya Herrera Domestic Airport (EOH) is located a couple of miles from the Medellin Mansion or VIP, but it is only for domestic travel in Colombia. Only 3 airlines service this airport. Aides, Aires, and Satena. If you don't like flying in small planes, best to fly out of MDE for your domestic travel in Colombia.
Best Of Luck!
[QUOTE=Jiooooo]Pardon the silly question but it seems that there are 2 airports in Medellin, which one is the good one?
Jose Marie Cordova or
Enrique Olaya
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BlackSultan]That is on 25 american dollars. You can't beat that price with a baseball bat.
I went there on my first trip and had a decent time with two chicas there.[/QUOTE]Remember it well.
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[QUOTE=Jiooooo]Pardon the silly question but it seems that there are 2 airports in Medellin, which one is the good one?
Jose Marie Cordova or
Enrique Olaya
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Jose Maria Cordova is a International and local airport
Enrique olaya is only local.
My two pesos,
Kukulkan
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Thank you guys for the answer
JMC it is, I hate small planes and I need about 3 transits before getting to Colombia so an additional one to ride a small plain is out of the questions.
Thanks again
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[QUOTE=Wisslis]The map is small due to the upload limitations of this site. The original is available at the Medellin Mansion and EL Castillo.
Now I have changed all errors.
Don Pedrinio[/QUOTE]This is great Wisslis - thanks for the great work. I live around the corner from New Life so could you add my place to the map? Just kidding.
If you could be so kind as to provide a link or email us the full, non scaled down digital version that would ROCK!
PS. you say the maps are available at Castillo and Mansion - physically there on paper or on their respective websites?
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Went to NewLife a few days ago. Lots of girls to choose from. Their renovation of the downstairs is now complete. Huge hot water heater.
12 girls in the lineup. It was easy doing the "remember the name" thing and out of the 12 I only had to juggle 2 names. Kind of a disapointment.
Sessioned with Carolina. Cute, nice tits, no BBJ. Says it was her first day and it seemed like it. Very enthusiastic in the shower but she needs a little more overall experience. She was ready for round 2 almost immediately and we had plenty of time. The prices are up to 50K for the hour however I heard one guy behind me get charged 55K.
They have expanded and added a lot more girls.
Alejandra looked really tempting but for some reason I got the impression that she would be a pain so I passed - but she was the stunner of the rolly polly bunch.
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OK - someone posted a page or two ago about some place having "great service". Too tired to find and quote.
I got the impression that the poster was referencing the girls - what else could he have been talking about?
I really don't think the casas screen the girls and select "great in the sack" providers - and also I think that good service is really up to and controlled by the girl and not the casa.
I believe when someone says one of these casa (all in the same price range of course) is better than another (in reference to the girls, not the hot water or cleanliness of the rooms, although important) that they just got lucky a few times with good girls at that particular casa.
I found a pretty hot DFK BBBJ girl who was really sensual and into it and not chubby (Rare these days) at a casa 3 months ago and I immediately thought "This is a great casa!".
Since then I have forgotten the casa and the chica's name. I'm an idiot.
My point is when you find a great provider hang on! (and post here... he he he)
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[QUOTE=ElCastillo]It went up to 50k. Still a great deal. I like the girls this place has. They like their work.[/QUOTE]Wow, its ruined and I am done, LOL. I usually have the paisas come back to my room for 60,000 - 70,000 for a few hours. Works better for me.
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[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]Went to NewLife a few days ago. Lots of girls to choose from. Their renovation of the downstairs is now complete. Huge hot water heater.
12 girls in the lineup. It was easy doing the "remember the name" thing and out of the 12 I only had to juggle 2 names. Kind of a disapointment.
Sessioned with Carolina. Cute, nice tits, no BBJ. Says it was her first day and it seemed like it. Very enthusiastic in the shower but she needs a little more overall experience. She was ready for round 2 almost immediately and we had plenty of time. The prices are up to 50K for the hour however I heard one guy behind me get charged 55K.
They have expanded and added a lot more girls.
Alejandra looked really tempting but for some reason I got the impression that she would be a pain so I passed - but she was the stunner of the rolly polly bunch.[/QUOTE]It's all that holiday food.come may. June they are thinner.
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[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]Went to NewLife a few days ago. Lots of girls to choose from. Their renovation of the downstairs is now complete. Huge hot water heater.
12 girls in the lineup. It was easy doing the "remember the name" thing and out of the 12 I only had to juggle 2 names. Kind of a disapointment.[/QUOTE]I visited New Life last Thursday and again earlier today. On Thursday the place was busy, crawling with cute girls, I counted 3-4 (only 2 in the linup) that I'd consider very hot, but only 4-6 total were actually available at 2pm.
On Monday at 3pm, different story, out of 10-12 girls, only 1 was passably doable (not "very hot" to me).
lesson: Casas vary from day to day, week to week. Scope out your favorites but don't expect the same as you found there the last time.
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Map
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]This is great Wisslis - thanks for the great work. I live around the corner from New Life so could you add my place to the map? Just kidding.
If you could be so kind as to provide a link or email us the full, non scaled down digital version that would ROCK!
PS. you say the maps are available at Castillo and Mansion - physically there on paper or on their respective websites?[/QUOTE]We print them out if a guess wants one. It is not on the website.
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Just a little tip about lawyers and recommendations
Having opened a business in Medellin and using a "recommended" lawyer from this board from other business owner(s), I'll say don't trust anyone because you've stayed at their establishment or they speak English, get drunk with you, etc.
I did this and found out that my lawyer was 8 times higher than the going rate. The quote from this business owner was something like (and I am paraphrasing)...."use this lawyer, he is good, speaks English, and doesn't charge gringo prices".
Certainly I can't prove it, but I imagine there was a kick-back to this business owner because the rumor is that he gets big kick-backs from everyone he recommends to his gringo customers. Some of this is certainly understood but out-right lies about the prices is a little suspect. I am not going to name names but if you need a lawyer ask around while you're in Medellin with your broken Spanish. You're likely to find a better lawyer than your trusted native English speaking B&B owner(s). They are not your friend, they're there to suck dry you like any other Colombian who sees a gringo.
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[QUOTE=Q Bert]Having opened a business in Medellin and using a "recommended" lawyer from this board from other business owner(s), I'll say don't trust anyone because you've stayed at their establishment or they speak English, get drunk with you, etc.
I did this and found out that my lawyer was 8 times higher than the going rate. The quote from this business owner was something like (and I am paraphrasing)...."use this lawyer, he is good, speaks English, and doesn't charge gringo prices".
Certainly I can't prove it, but I imagine there was a kick-back to this business owner because the rumor is that he gets big kick-backs from everyone he recommends to his gringo customers. Some of this is certainly understood but out-right lies about the prices is a little suspect. I am not going to name names but if you need a lawyer ask around while you're in Medellin with your broken Spanish. You're likely to find a better lawyer than your trusted native English speaking B&B owner(s). They are not your friend, they're there to suck dry you like any other Colombian who sees a gringo.[/QUOTE]If you are trying to open a business in MDE and you speak broken Spanish, I hope you have a lot of Vaseline. The lawyer will be the least of your problems.
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Can I get an AMEN?
Qbert,This is right on, I have had the same experience with this scenario. I have a Luxury Aprt. in Poblado for rent by the week. So dont stay at a B n B stay at your own place.
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[QUOTE=Tom 33]If you are trying to open a business in MDE and you speak broken Spanish, I hope you have a lot of Vaseline. The lawyer will be the least of your problems.[/QUOTE]Of course my Spanish is better now but business is business. I did fine besides this one major mistake so I just wanted to pass the info.
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[QUOTE=Jchipper]Qbert,This is right on, I have had the same experience with this scenario. I have a Luxury Aprt. in Poblado for rent by the week. So dont stay at a B n B stay at your own place.[/QUOTE]I have been living here for a while now and have learned so much. I just wanted to pass on this information after I thought about it one night. I know this person gets a lot of gringos passing through his place and hate to see this happen to anyone else. There is a right way to do business and this ain't it.
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Yeah, as Tom inferred. I was talking to a guy who owns a business. he could'nt believe how inventive the employees got at stealing at liberating money from the business.
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Its quiet interesting peoples views on the subject of commission, if you would like to do business in Colombia, ¨get youst to it¨ as its a way of life here, whether its a Gringo or Colombian.
I can only speak for me ¨Aussie Greg¨ and not the company that I help out. I have at times given my lawyer's telephone number to people I meet then its up to them and the lawyer, I really don't give a fuck what they are doing as I'm busy with my own situation, I just try to help out.
I'm happy with my lawyer and I also have another lawyer to keep him honest with prices etc and check on what he is doing is correct and what I want. I have also sent people I meet to dentists and plastic surgens that I use.
I have never been given any payment from my lawyer, dentist and plastic surgen, I must say that my denist does give me a discount on my own teeth when I need work and also my plastic surgen does give me a good price on all my girlfriends with there titty jobs (I'm up to 3 now! ) but I have never been given any cash/commission from the above and or any commission from any working girl.
So entonces, if your unhappy with your own situation, change your lawyer! or go back home, its a simple as that.
A. G.
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For Jiooooo
[QUOTE=Jiooooo]JMC it is, I hate small planes and I need about 3 transits before getting to Colombia so an additional one to ride a small plain is out of the questions.
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Hi Jiooooo
I think that it's not that simple.
Jose Marie Cordova (MDE) is an "out of town" airport.
Once there, it takes 45 minutes of a tortuous road to arrive to Medellin.
Enrique Olaya Herrera (EOH) is an "in town" airport.
Once there, you are in Medellin.
In fact, it all depends on where you arrive in Colombia.
If your landing point is Bogota, you may consider to go to EOH.
I use EOH at 90% when I go to Medellin from Bogota.
Now EOH has some bad figures.
It operates from 6am till 5:30pm
After that, if for any reason your plane has not left, you have to go to MDE to found a late plane.
Only small planes are allowed to land at EOH (remember this airport is in Medellin, very close from the Poblado).
I use Satena, an army air company, with good planes (Dornier 30 seats, Embraer 50 seats)
I think Aires goes there as well.
Satena is a local company and for what I know, you can't buy tickets from outside...
One more thing, if you arrive to Bogota International airport, you have to go to the other terminal (Puente Aereo) to go to Medellin with Avianca (Colombian biggest and very good Air company). You will have to take a bus after getting your luggages (custom clearance). The bus is free and goes to the other terminal in 5 minutes, driving in the internals airport's roads. Average time to wait for the bus : 7 minutes.
If you use Satena, you don't have to take a bus, just get in the airport and there they are right in the middle.
They have an Internet site : [url]http://www.satena.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?lang=es-CO[/url]
One more thing you may consider :
Bog => MDE with Avianca : 50 minutes
MDE => Medellin by road : 45 minutes
Total time : 95 minutes
BOG => EOH with Satena : 30 minutes and there you are !!!
Of course, it also depends on when your plane arrives at Bogota and the connexion you may have.
One more thing : It's not easy to have a seat on Satena as they are full most of the time. You have to make an early reservation.
Cheers
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Col Blog,
I really appreciate the info. I thought it was a no-brainer but as you pointed out I will have to consider both options especially since my travel agent can't seem to find me a direct flight to medellin for a reasonable price. I might have to go threw Bogata or Cartagena and if that is the case I might jump into a small airplane after all. Thinking of all the paisas to come might get my mind of all the turbulences that I will have to endure.
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Jiooooo]Col Blog,
I really appreciate the info. I thought it was a no-brainer but as you pointed out I will have to consider both options especially since my travel agent can't seem to find me a direct flight to medellin for a reasonable price. I might have to go threw Bogata or Cartagena and if that is the case I might jump into a small airplane after all. Thinking of all the paisas to come might get my mind of all the turbulences that I will have to endure.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Go through Bogotá. CTG has less fights than MDE.
The small planes aren't that bad. I have flown Aires BOG-MDE and MDE-CTG. In each case the plane was a 37-passenger turbo-prop with plenty of carry-on room.
Aires has flights efvery few hours serving BOG, MDE and CTG. However, they are rarely non-stop. MDE-CTG stops in Monteria long enough to let people on and off. BOG-MDE stops in Ibagué for an hour or two.
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[QUOTE=Jiooooo]Col Blog,
I really appreciate the info. I thought it was a no-brainer but as you pointed out I will have to consider both options especially since my travel agent can't seem to find me a direct flight to medellin for a reasonable price. I might have to go threw Bogata or Cartagena and if that is the case I might jump into a small airplane after all. Thinking of all the paisas to come might get my mind of all the turbulences that I will have to endure.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Where you flying from?
Superboy
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[QUOTE=Vitrea]You could fly to Panama city in Business class and do a short hop from there (in cattle class:-) to few cities in Colombia. Just a thought.[/QUOTE]That's what I am now doing, thanks for the advice.
2J
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Available for out calls
I have the names of 2 legit excellent Massage girls, any one need an Hotel or Outcall Massage, PM me, these are attractive girls but the Massage is just that, no hand jobs etc, let me know as they are too hard to find here that are good, A Greg has a good one but she is pricey.
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[QUOTE=Superboy1]Where you flying from?
Superboy[/QUOTE]From Barcelona, Spain.
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[QUOTE=Jchipper]I have the names of 2 legit excellent Massage girls, any one need an Hotel or Outcall Massage, PM me, these are attractive girls but the Massage is just that, no hand jobs etc, let me know as they are too hard to find here that are good, A Greg has a good one but she is pricey.[/QUOTE]Yeah but Olga gives great head and loves anal.
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Australian guy in Medellin with resturant
A couple of months ago a Australian guy living in Medellin gave me a call to come around to say hi, he came around and we had a bit of a chat and his is his story.
He's married a Colombian girl with 2 children and the Family Court said no, you carnt take the kids out of the country until after 1 year so we can see that your marriage is a steady one and that every thing is going well, apply in another year and we will see again, even the father of the children said it was fine the children go to Aussie Land.
He is a Pastry Chef by trade, also worked in outback stations (farms) as a manager and also entertainment director at tourist farms etc.
He and his wife started a fast food little resturant over on 80th Ave, being going a month now earing enough to pay the rent etc. He works at the Rest from 10.00am to 6.00pm then the wife comes in from 6.00pm to 10.00-12.00 pm.
His wife works in a job that return about 3,000,000 million a month so its not a bad job for Colombian.
In the Resturant on each table he has a sign that says ¨I carnt read or write spanish¨ but just point to the menu and I´ll cook up what you want !!!!!!!! he has quiet a bit of local support
So entonces, if you think you are having a tuff time here in Colombia being a dreamer, think of this guy who carnt read or write spanish but runs a resturaunt that pays its way.
Aussie Greg
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[QUOTE=Jiooooo]Col Blog,
I really appreciate the info. I thought it was a no-brainer but as you pointed out I will have to consider both options especially since my travel agent can't seem to find me a direct flight to medellin for a reasonable price. I might have to go threw Bogata or Cartagena and if that is the case I might jump into a small airplane after all. Thinking of all the paisas to come might get my mind of all the turbulences that I will have to endure.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Avianca from bogota to medellin and back was a jet all three times I have flown it, I think it was a 737 but can't say for sure, but there was no turbulence on any trip. On the avianca site it lists the aircraft type for each leg of every flight.
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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Its quiet interesting peoples views on the subject of commission, if you would like to do business in Colombia, ¨get youst to it¨ as its a way of life here, whether its a Gringo or Colombian.
I can only speak for me ¨Aussie Greg¨ and not the company that I help out. I have at times given my lawyer's telephone number to people I meet then its up to them and the lawyer, I really don't give a fuck what they are doing as I'm busy with my own situation, I just try to help out.
I'm happy with my lawyer and I also have another lawyer to keep him honest with prices etc and check on what he is doing is correct and what I want. I have also sent people I meet to dentists and plastic surgens that I use.
I have never been given any payment from my lawyer, dentist and plastic surgen, I must say that my denist does give me a discount on my own teeth when I need work and also my plastic surgen does give me a good price on all my girlfriends with there titty jobs (I'm up to 3 now! ) but I have never been given any cash/commission from the above and or any commission from any working girl.
So entonces, if your unhappy with your own situation, change your lawyer! or go back home, its a simple as that.
A. G.[/QUOTE]I guess you're inferring to my post below but I was careful not to mention any names for a reason. So for this reason I want to clarify something - it's not up to me or anyone else to tell you how to run your business and that was not the point I was making.
Also, speaking of your post, there is still one thing that is confusing to me. The first thing you say is that commission is a way of life in Colombia, gringo or not, then you turn right around an deny that you receive any commission. Are you saying that while other gringos living here are looking to make commissions off other unsuspecting gringos, you are not? If so then isn't it reasonable to assume that I could be talking about them and not you?
Like I said, whether you do or don't, it's your own business. I was simply pointing out what you said, that gringo or Colombian, there are people trying to make commission by recommending high priced people to line their pockets. I was simply pointing it out before anyone else makes this mistake. I am sure you can understand that being a person who plays it straight up.
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[QUOTE=Shafty 7]Avianca from bogota to medellin and back was a jet all three times I have flown it, I think it was a 737 but can't say for sure, but there was no turbulence on any trip. On the avianca site it lists the aircraft type for each leg of every flight.[/QUOTE]Turbulence is hit or miss. I flew Avianca once from CLO to MDE. The plane was a turbo-prop. We hit the worst turbulence I have ever experienced in my life.
MDE-CTG uses turbo-props also. In 6 or 8 trips, I don't recall any turbulence.
I also flew MDE-BOG RT on an Aires turbo-prop without any problem.
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Bert,
99.9% of any deal that is referred by people to people in Colombia commission is involved (thats just my opinion and its a way of life here)
Its a interesting subject, the price or quote for a job/deal, it depends on the deal but my secretary says between 10 - 20% of the agreed price.
She should know, she knows all the important people here in Medellin and also the people you dont really want to know.
If there are some more questions on this subject, I´ll be happy to answer my opinion.
Aussie Greg
[QUOTE=Q Bert]I guess you're inferring to my post below but I was careful not to mention any names for a reason. So for this reason I want to clarify something - it's not up to me or anyone else to tell you how to run your business and that was not the point I was making.
Also, speaking of your post, there is still one thing that is confusing to me. The first thing you say is that commission is a way of life in Colombia, gringo or not, then you turn right around an deny that you receive any commission. Are you saying that while other gringos living here are looking to make commissions off other unsuspecting gringos, you are not? If so then isn't it reasonable to assume that I could be talking about them and not you?
Like I said, whether you do or don't, it's your own business. I was simply pointing out what you said, that gringo or Colombian, there are people trying to make commission by recommending high priced people to line their pockets. I was simply pointing it out before anyone else makes this mistake. I am sure you can understand that being a person who plays it straight up.[/QUOTE]
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I have taken a 737 from Bogota to Medellin twice. I believe that the flight goes onto Miami. On one of those trips the plane was hit by a sudden downdraft (anyone not wearing a seatbelt almost bounced off the ceiling). It was so violent that everyone crossed themselves.
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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]A couple of months ago a Australian guy living in Medellin gave me a call to come around to say hi, he came around and we had a bit of a chat and his is his story.
He's married a Colombian girl with 2 children and the Family Court said no, you carnt take the kids out of the country until after 1 year so we can see that your marriage is a steady one and that every thing is going well, apply in another year and we will see again, even the father of the children said it was fine the children go to Aussie Land.
He is a Pastry Chef by trade, also worked in outback stations (farms) as a manager and also entertainment director at tourist farms etc.
He and his wife started a fast food little resturant over on 80th Ave, being going a month now earing enough to pay the rent etc. He works at the Rest from 10.00am to 6.00pm then the wife comes in from 6.00pm to 10.00-12.00 pm.
His wife works in a job that return about 3,000,000 million a month so its not a bad job for Colombian.
In the Resturant on each table he has a sign that says ¨I carnt read or write spanish¨ but just point to the menu and I´ll cook up what you want !!!!!!!! he has quiet a bit of local support
So entonces, if you think you are having a tuff time here in Colombia being a dreamer, think of this guy who carnt read or write spanish but runs a resturaunt that pays its way.
Aussie Greg[/QUOTE]Got to love the adaptability of us Aussies.
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[QUOTE=Shafty 7]Avianca from bogota to medellin and back was a jet all three times I have flown it, I think it was a 737 but can't say for sure, but there was no turbulence on any trip. On the avianca site it lists the aircraft type for each leg of every flight.[/QUOTE]I don't think Avianca has any 737, just MD-80 for the flights between MDE and Bog. Lots of Prop planes when I went to Cartagena and Cali. Fokker 50.
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[QUOTE=Shafty 7]Avianca from bogota to medellin and back was a jet all three times I have flown it, I think it was a 737 but can't say for sure, but there was no turbulence on any trip. On the avianca site it lists the aircraft type for each leg of every flight.[/QUOTE]Avianca flys DC9 planes from Bogota to Medellin, they have two engines at the back of the plane, great planes that can handle alot of turbulence. Colombia does have bad turbulence at times due to high amount of storm development and also becouse of the up and down drafts from the hills.
Sorry to bore you guy with the spotter info LOL
Superboy
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Avianca's fleet
Avianca's fleet
[url]http://www.avianca.com/Inicio/Navegacion/AcercaAvianca/Flota+y+destino/en/NuestraFlota.htm[/url]
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[QUOTE=Tom 33]Turbulence is hit or miss. I flew Avianca once from CLO to MDE. The plane was a turbo-prop. We hit the worst turbulence I have ever experienced in my life.
MDE-CTG uses turbo-props also. In 6 or 8 trips, I don't recall any turbulence.
I also flew MDE-BOG RT on an Aires turbo-prop without any problem.[/QUOTE]I've flown MDE to Barranquilla R/T with Avianca twice using the Fokker turboprop, a far superior/roomier puddle jumper IMO to the twin turbo that American Eagle uses -an Embraer I think - in the states. No turbulence on my two flights but that is dependant on actual weather conditions.
Schwmm
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You know your in for a bumpy flight when the cabin crew are told to return to their seats.
I got bounced around in the front cabin of a 747 on a flight out of BKK. Like Schwmmr say's it all depends on the weather.
RG.
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Does anyone know the name of the song in the cubanut video and In Bogota there are some Avianca planes just sitting in a park, what is the name of the park.
Thanks
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Not afraid of flying
Turbulence! On my first flight to Medellin on an AeroRepublica MD80 between PTY and MDE, the turbulence was so bad that I thought we were going to crash.
It seems that the pilots that fly those smaller planes in latin america are young. Really young. I remember sitting there watching the pilots come onto the plane and wondering if they skateboarded down the jetway. To give you a visual, one was caucasian, tallish and lanky with a shaved head and looked like he belonged in some kind of garage band pounding out Limp Bizkit covers. The other one looked like James Dean's greasy side kick in the movie "Rebel Without A Cause. " Both had I'll-fitting uniforms that made them look like they were trying on their dad's stuff.
Seriously. If you pointed those two out in a crowd and told me to guess whether they were airline pilots or worked at Papa Johns pizza, I would have guessed the latter. I try not to judge. But, to tell you the truth, I have similar distrust when I see a female pilot get on the flight. For some reason, I just don't like it.
But I knew we were in trouble when the flight out of PTY was delayed because they couldn't start the engines. From my aisle seat, I could see straight down into the cockpit and the two young pilots feverishly grabbing, pushing buttons as they went through their pre-flight routine. After a while, the two of them looked like they were arguing as they were both pointing at pages in their respective pre-flight books and holding them up so the other could see. I'm very comfortable flying, and I travel a lot. But now I'm getting nervous.
I got seriously nervous when---I shit you not!.--I looked forward at one point to see one of the flight attendants in the cockpit talking to the pilots and pointing to switches and buttons on the panel above them. WTF! Is the flight attendant really giving them instructions on how to start the fatcking plane? I couldn't hear what they were saying, but their spastic interactions reminded me of a silly Cary Grant / Katherine Hepburn movie. This can't be happening.
The flight attendant was hot, by the way.
One of the other flight attendants (also hot) must have looked down the aisle and saw looks of confusion and absolute horror on the passengers' faces. Because she quickly pulled a curtain closed so you couldn't see down the aisle into the cockpit anymore. After about an hour, and a visit from a mechanic, the engines started and we were off.
Somewhere mid-flight we hit some weather. I remember looking out the window and seeing several serious looking cumulonimbus storm clouds out there. And then the tubulence started. Like sex, the turbulence started out rythmicly slow and bumpy but eventually felt like the plane was having a series of gran mal seizures. We must have hit one of those storm clouds because the turbulance got so bad that things started falling all over the place. We hit a couple of the biggest air pockets I've ever felt and the plane started falling twice. Falling far.
People were screaming, flight attendants scurried back to their jump seats, I started going through that same routine: "If I die right now, did I live a good and full life? ". I already had images of CNN footage of this MD80 littered all over the mountains below us. Then the tubulence stopped suddenly. The remainder of the flight was uneventful and everyone calmed down. That is, until we landed.
MDE is a funky little airport nestled in the mountains. It seems like one moment you're high altitude, and the next you only 100 ft above the ground. So I'm looking out the window across from me at one point and I remember telling myself "Wow. Those treetops are coming in really fas. " SLAM! The plane hit the runway so hard that it felt like the plane was going to crack in half. Everyone on the plane screamed again. I think I even let out a "WHOA! " (a manly one, I assure you.).
Needless to say, the pilots didn't come out to greet the passengers as we exited. They didn't even open the cockpit door.
Like I said, I consider myself a pretty fearless flyer, but that flight made me want to avoid Copa on subsequent flights to Medellin. Unfortunately, the LAX--MDE route is so much faster and cheaper than Houston or Miami. So I'm stuck. The next flights to MDE were uneventful. But I still get a little nervous about it.
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[QUOTE=Schwmmr]I've flown MDE to Barranquilla R/T with Avianca twice using the Fokker turboprop, a far superior/roomier puddle jumper IMO to the twin turbo that American Eagle uses -an Embraer I think - in the states. No turbulence on my two flights but that is dependant on actual weather conditions.
Schwmm[/QUOTE]The problem with those smaller turboprops is they can´t climb as high as the jets, therefore they´re often unable to get above the bumpy stuff.
Also, some of their aircraft are not equipped with weather radar, or it isn´t operating, making it difficult to decipher the weather.
Buckle up. :)
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EB,
Nice story. Next time try Aeroflot. They have lawn chairs for seats and use duct tape on the wings.
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[QUOTE=El Bombero]Turbulence! On my first flight to Medellin on an AeroRepublica MD80 between PTY and MDE, the turbulence was so bad that I thought we were going to crash.
It seems that the pilots that fly those smaller planes in latin america are young. Really young. I remember sitting there watching the pilots come onto the plane and wondering if they skateboarded down the jetway. To give you a visual, one was caucasian, tallish and lanky with a shaved head and looked like he belonged in some kind of garage band pounding out Limp Bizkit covers. The other one looked like James Dean's greasy side kick in the movie "Rebel Without A Cause. " Both had I'll-fitting uniforms that made them look like they were trying on their dad's stuff.
Seriously. If you pointed those two out in a crowd and told me to guess whether they were airline pilots or worked at Papa Johns pizza, I would have guessed the latter. I try not to judge. But, to tell you the truth, I have similar distrust when I see a female pilot get on the flight. For some reason, I just don't like it.
But I knew we were in trouble when the flight out of PTY was delayed because they couldn't start the engines. From my aisle seat, I could see straight down into the cockpit and the two young pilots feverishly grabbing, pushing buttons as they went through their pre-flight routine. After a while, the two of them looked like they were arguing as they were both pointing at pages in their respective pre-flight books and holding them up so the other could see. I'm very comfortable flying, and I travel a lot. But now I'm getting nervous.
I got seriously nervous when---I shit you not!.--I looked forward at one point to see one of the flight attendants in the cockpit talking to the pilots and pointing to switches and buttons on the panel above them. WTF! Is the flight attendant really giving them instructions on how to start the fatcking plane? I couldn't hear what they were saying, but their spastic interactions reminded me of a silly Cary Grant / Katherine Hepburn movie. This can't be happening.
The flight attendant was hot, by the way.
One of the other flight attendants (also hot) must have looked down the aisle and saw looks of confusion and absolute horror on the passengers' faces. Because she quickly pulled a curtain closed so you couldn't see down the aisle into the cockpit anymore. After about an hour, and a visit from a mechanic, the engines started and we were off.
Somewhere mid-flight we hit some weather. I remember looking out the window and seeing several serious looking cumulonimbus storm clouds out there. And then the tubulence started. Like sex, the turbulence started out rythmicly slow and bumpy but eventually felt like the plane was having a series of gran mal seizures. We must have hit one of those storm clouds because the turbulance got so bad that things started falling all over the place. We hit a couple of the biggest air pockets I've ever felt and the plane started falling twice. Falling far.
People were screaming, flight attendants scurried back to their jump seats, I started going through that same routine: "If I die right now, did I live a good and full life? ". I already had images of CNN footage of this MD80 littered all over the mountains below us. Then the tubulence stopped suddenly. The remainder of the flight was uneventful and everyone calmed down. That is, until we landed.
MDE is a funky little airport nestled in the mountains. It seems like one moment you're high altitude, and the next you only 100 ft above the ground. So I'm looking out the window across from me at one point and I remember telling myself "Wow. Those treetops are coming in really fas. " SLAM! The plane hit the runway so hard that it felt like the plane was going to crack in half. Everyone on the plane screamed again. I think I even let out a "WHOA! " (a manly one, I assure you.).
Needless to say, the pilots didn't come out to greet the passengers as we exited. They didn't even open the cockpit door.
Like I said, I consider myself a pretty fearless flyer, but that flight made me want to avoid Copa on subsequent flights to Medellin. Unfortunately, the LAX--MDE route is so much faster and cheaper than Houston or Miami. So I'm stuck. The next flights to MDE were uneventful. But I still get a little nervous about it.[/QUOTE]The approach into Medellin is a tricky one, it involves overflying the airport heading south then while making the turn northwards the aircraft is about between ft1000 to ft2000 from a large hill, which is pretty low for a plane flying at 230kts at that point. Once past the high ground around 8miles out the aircraft then needs to loss about ft4000 before landing.
I think maybe one of the reasons the flight attendent was pointing at the overhead panel would becouse on the overhead panel has the controls for the cabin temperature and air con, so I am guessing to was asking the pilot for alittle heat or cooling.
And as for the pilots, to be a pilot in command (Captain) you need atleast 5000 flying hour which can take about 10year plus. Evern if they look young these guys know what they are doing.
Avianca has a good saftey record, when was the last time you heard of an Avianca accident, I belive the last one was back in the early 80s at New York, and the plane ran out of fuel and the engines shut down.
Always remember that flying is the safest way to travel
O. K better stop now, now everyone know I am alittle plane spotter, no I was a aircraft engineer for 9 years.
Superboy
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I don't remember the landing being anything special in MDE, but the 270 degree turning climb out got my attention. I kept waiting for that right hand turn to stop.
As far as fun landings you should try to fly Volaris into TIJ
RG.
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On the Trail
Yesterday was a day out on the Town for me and Bro N Law so I took the Centro Csa and Massage parlor list and hit the trail! I wanted to see how may I could find and view the available stock within 4 hours. Not many. There are some that are within blocks of eachother but most require 6 to 10 blocks waliking from site to site, add this to Medellins traffic woes and, well you get the idea. First up was Venus as it is an easy find from Metro station Pardo, I frequent the place so I already knew there would be between 2 and 8 girls, true to the course, she had 6 available, 4 fuglies and 2 very doable. Rooms here are basic but clean, very secure, on the floor matress but soft and most important private bathrooms in the room, Downsides, no hot water, and day to day it may be closed due to lack of girls. Next, across the cat walk over the road to Massajes Japones, strcitly legit, but a good massage can be had for 35, 000. Next to Barcelona. , one block down from Venus, easy to find, nice selection og girls 8 or so, 3 doable, 5 on the fuglies list, rooms okay, no private baths so bring your towel, hehehe. Belle Suite, really nice line up of 10 girls, 50/50 on the quality and rooms, they have candles burning in the sala area and the location was easy to find. I will session here next week. Aiffe, the location sucks as it is down from the transvestites bar, close to Park Bolivar, not my cup of tea for the area, but they had 5 available in the rough. I have sessioned here before and the service is good. Atenea was next, about the same quality as Aiffe but less girls on this day, rooms small but clean, its not far from the the last two so it was worth the viewing if the others don't produce. Kamasutras was my old haunt for about 6 months so I knew what to expect, 6 to 8 girls in the 4 to 8 range in looks and service. Plus here is Sebastin speaks english so he can rate the girls for you and gald to drink a brew with you and talk American football. The last one before we hit the stip clubs was a new place a little up the road, been open 3 months the Jeffe told us and by far the best of Centros offerings this day, some nice 18 year old students, some nice vetrans, a nice mix, nice rooms with real beds on frames, not on the floor, a cleaning lady who mops and changes linens, really nice for Centro, lots of light, it made number 1 on my tour. All the above MPS ran 30 to 35, 000 col for 30 minutes to 45 to 55, 000 for the hour, and some have two girls specials, such as Kamasutras. One thing I have found is the stock changes daily here, soem girls only work the weekends, some onnly afternoons, soem only days, and some only when the bills are due, hehehhe. So if you visit a place don't count it out for a future visit if the stock supply is low or bad quality, you may miss a gem in the rough. I noticed a 18 year old doll leaving one place and asked the jeffe if she was a working girl, Oh yes he replied but she is a nite student so she only works here 10am to 5 pm, thus my advise. One thing more, things are changing here, the new Alcaldi wants to regulate the MPS as he and all know they are fronts for Brothels, he wants health cards for the girls with monthly check ups, he wants to levy a tax on the services, and shut down non compliant places, You make the call, Good or a bad thing? One more thing, I have a friend in the health services business and she told me that a recent survey of girls who work as prostitues found over 140, 000 cases of POS HIV in a 3 month period and numerous SDD cases, so Barebacking is now offlimits here for those whose sanity prevails.
Jchipper
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Good info.
Those infection rates have to be projections/estimates.
If not, then they have to be finding 2,333 infected girls every working day (assuming 5 working days per week) over that 3 month period. What lab is going to process that many tests ?
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Airline aires from Medellin to Bucarmanga
To all especially Bombero,
F'n hilarious story man, absolutely hilarious. Personally, I would've thrown up and shit at the same time (chorro de los dos lados). Has anyone ever flown with Aires? I have a flight from Medellin to Bucaramanga with this airline in March. I was thinking these planes got to be puddle jumpers seeing the flight is only 40 minutes. Thanks for any responses.
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Correction,,
The correct number of HIV cases was 14,000 for the entire country, but still not my acceptable risk factor.
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Turbulances ? and so what ?
[QUOTE=Ardy1473]To all especially Bombero,
F'n hilarious story man, absolutely hilarious. Personally, I would've thrown up and shit at the same time (chorro de los dos lados). Has anyone ever flown with Aires? I have a flight from Medellin to Bucaramanga with this airline in March. I was thinking these planes got to be puddle jumpers seeing the flight is only 40 minutes. Thanks for any responses.[/QUOTE]Hi guys.
I'm a very frequent flyer in Colombia.
I have the black Avianca's card and I'm a very regular customer of Satena on the Medellin - Bogota road.
I have fly with Aires, Aerorepublica, ADA.
Yes, Colombia has a lot of bad weather with strong winds and, of course, a lot of turbulences.
But so What ? Planes are build to resist these kind of weather.
I just take a good book and read, or, even better, sleep.
Smaller planes are really not a problem and I have found pilots to be good.
If you fly ADA, they have Twin Otters with no pressurized cabin, and so what?
Nothing happens and they fly every day.
The most interesting airports I've seen so far are :
1) Pasto
This is really the best place if you're lucky.
It all depends on wind; The airport is located very close from a cliff. If you're lucky, the plane has to land at the other entrance of the runway and you fly under the airport, that means that the plane protect itself from strong winds flying under the cliff's top... If you go there, insist to be seated on the left side in order to see this.
Then, once you passed the airport entrance, the jet climbs some 2 or 300 meters, make a u-turn and land... A real experience !!!
If you're not lucky, the plane land directly and you don't see anything.
Once ther, don't forget to eat cuyes, another experience.
2) Manizales
This airport is really something.
They cut a hill to put the airport.
You mayknow that there are no flat land in that city.
So, you can imagine that the landing piste is very short.
The pilot breaks according to the length of the landing piste.
It's better to hold the front seat.
Cheers
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Paola
Karen has many friends and as she was sick (a cold), I decided to try one of her friends.
We were at a restaurant close to the 70, and she called several friends, but they were not available.
Finally a friend of her (Camila) recommended another girl who was free and willing to come.
We fixed the meeting point at the restaurant where I was with Karen and we wait for her to come.
Of course, she didn’t arrive in the 20 minutes she said, but a good 60 minutes later. As I was speaking with Karen, I had no problem to wait, even if, at the end, I was ready to go back to my hotel. But she finally arrived in her taxi. I was not very pleased with her appearance as she is a kind of fleshy girl and I like then skinny. But as she was recommended I decided to try her.
I kissed Karen good bye and we jumped in a taxi to my hotel.
When the taxi dropped us off in front of the San Fernando Mall, Paola asked me if I had condoms. I said no, but don’t worry. She didn’t say a word.
When we arrived at the lobby, I told Paola to give me her arm and we passed in front of the lobby as a normal couple and no one asked us anything.
Once in the room, Paola was gladly surprised by the luxury of the room. Poor girl, I soon discovered that she was not in that business for long. She leaves with her old mother and she had serious health problems. Paola had a boy friend before but he died in a car accident a few months ago. She had a job but got fired recently.
So, she decided to enter the business but she told me that she "only" do recommended persons and don’t go to any Casa or places like that.
She sat down on the sofa and asked me for a drink to relax. There was a small bottle of wine, gifted by the hotel, so I gave it to her and we start talking and exploring ourselves very slowly.
It was very good and Paola was obviously willing to please me. She sucked me quite good as she knows where to put her tongue, and in no time I was very hard (thanks Sidenafil). She was amazed how big I am. I told her that I know that I’m normal but she was really amazed!
We decided to have a good shower and I put my camera in position to take a movie. Paola told me that she loves porn movies. But she doesn’t know that I made a movie from our shower!
Well, we put some soap on our body and I screw her under the shower. She was "impressed" when I enter her and was moaning that I was so big. She then gave me a HJ, all went very nicely (I let you watch the movie).
After the shower, we went to the bed and I gave her a strong DATY.
She asked me if she could close her legs to increase her pleasure. I was surprised but let her do it and kept licking her clit. After maybe 5 minutes, I was thinking screwing again but she told me: " Please keep licking, I’m close to come". Of course I did, I’m always glad to please a lady! She shout her pleasure quite loud and try to escape from my tongue but I was able to keep licking her for some extra seconds, she was shouting so good. .
After that I penetrate her in missionary and once again she moans that I was so big. I asked her if I was hurting her or if she wanted to stop, but she told me to keep screwing but "gently". Poor girl, she had to bear me and I could see that she was not comfortable, but she acts like a pro and kept me in her. Problem was that I had an Olympic shape that night and didn’t want to come too soon. So I guess she received the screw of her life. I tried to get close from her ass, but she was very decided to not let me go in. She told me that she did it with her boyfriend but it was now a long time ago and I really was too big for her ass.
After maybe 30 minutes screwing she got dry and we had to use a lub. She asked me if I was using something for not coming. What could I tell her? That I had a girl yesterday and masturbate in the morning? No, of course not. I told her that it was a special night for me and that I wanted to take advantage of her presence and feeling her deep.
I did her for more than an hour and I did her hard, very hard. As she had told me that she loves porn movies, I put one on my laptop and kept screwing her, but then I finally reached climax and came (yes, out of her) yelling my pleasure and milk everywhere.
She was very glad that she could finally make me come (and stop her torture). We showered again and she got dressed. I gave her 50K plus 20 for her taxi and (very) good behaviour.
She asked me if I would call her back on my next visit to Medellin?
I may.
I have made 2 movies form my meeting with Paola:
1) 2008-01-30_Mde-Paola'sShower.avi
Size : 61,3Mo
Length : 9’58”
Quality : Ok…
2) 2008-01-30_Mde-Paola'sFuck.avi
Size : 17,8Mo
Length : 1’46”
Quality : Average, I still have great difficulties to make a movie while I screw…
[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK725647a404b4cd610[/url]
Cheers
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Mango´s turbulance !!
The only ¨turbulance¨ I get here in Colombia is when I am being carried by 4 Mango´s security guards to my car at 4.00am!
Aussie Greg
[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]Hi guys.
I'm a very frequent flyer in Colombia.
I have the black Avianca's card and I'm a very regular customer of Satena on the Medellin - Bogota road.
I have fly with Aires, Aerorepublica, ADA.
Yes, Colombia has a lot of bad weather with strong winds and, of course, a lot of turbulences.
But so What ? Planes are build to resist these kind of weather.
I just take a good book and read, or, even better, sleep.
Smaller planes are really not a problem and I have found pilots to be good.
If you fly ADA, they have Twin Otters with no pressurized cabin, and so what?
Nothing happens and they fly every day.
The most interesting airports I've seen so far are :
1) Pasto
This is really the best place if you're lucky.
It all depends on wind; The airport is located very close from a cliff. If you're lucky, the plane has to land at the other entrance of the runway and you fly under the airport, that means that the plane protect itself from strong winds flying under the cliff's top... If you go there, insist to be seated on the left side in order to see this.
Then, once you passed the airport entrance, the jet climbs some 2 or 300 meters, make a u-turn and land... A real experience !!!
If you're not lucky, the plane land directly and you don't see anything.
Once ther, don't forget to eat cuyes, another experience.
2) Manizales
This airport is really something.
They cut a hill to put the airport.
You mayknow that there are no flat land in that city.
So, you can imagine that the landing piste is very short.
The pilot breaks according to the length of the landing piste.
It's better to hold the front seat.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
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45 minutes with Lorena (Calle 61 53-78)
It was 3pm and I have finished my day. I decided to go for Lorena who at the beginning of January when I did her promised me BBFS for our next session. Time had come for that. The taxi drops me off close from the Casa and I walked up the stairs till the main room. That time it was as Karen has described it to me: Full of people. It’s like a bar with men drinking their beers and women waiting for them to decide themselves with whom to go. There were maybe 20 girls and 20 men. I recognized Lorena, my cute brunette and we kissed. I had call her 2 nights ago, but she was not available so she remembered me easily. We sat down and I order a bottle of water, Lorena didn’t want anything. She told me that the day had been very bad (no customers) and that she was thinking of going home.
I told her that I was there to save her day if she was willing to keep her promise (BBFS).
She start to think about it, and I could clearly see that it was a tough decision for her. But after 2 or 3 minutes of intensive reflexions, she told me NO. I was disappointed of course as she is a cute little thing as I love them, and she had promised me. But we all know what that kind of promises are. So I didn’t insist and asked her if the other Lorena (Karen’s friend) was there? She told me sure, and went to send her to me.
That Lorena was taller, with more tits, blond, not bad looking, but nothing out of this world. But who knows? As she is recommended, she might behave very well. So we talk a little bit and I decided to try her.
We had to wait an extra 10 minutes as no room was available.
Once in the room, we got naked and started our activities.
Lorena opened her legs to let me lick her pussy.
I won’t say that she was delighted but she let me do it moaning reasonably and moving her clit well in the same tempo as my tongue.
After that she gave me a reasonable BBBJ, and then there was no way to made her accept a BBFS. So I let her cover me and screw her hard. She was moaning and I still think that it was painful to her. I don’t know what happened recently, I only see narrow "women" and they have a bad time.
But nevertheless she stands my piece of meat and we made a lot of positions. At the end, I was breathless, but still very hard. She took the condom out and starts a HJ. It was not very good as she ignored my dick’s head and I had to explain her where she had to insist to get some results.
After maybe 5 minutes of this I put her in 69 (I was under) and I licked her pussy and ass while I was masturbating.
At least, I was able to come, but still.
So, what can I say? She was average, willing to do well, but her oral and hand abilities were poor.
I have made a movie form my meeting with Lorena:
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Ardy1473]To all especially Bombero,
F'n hilarious story man, absolutely hilarious. Personally, I would've thrown up and shit at the same time (chorro de los dos lados). Has anyone ever flown with Aires? I have a flight from Medellin to Bucaramanga with this airline in March. I was thinking these planes got to be puddle jumpers seeing the flight is only 40 minutes. Thanks for any responses.[/QUOTE]I belive the plane you will be fllying on will be a Dash8 , a twin prop plane, carrys about 50 passagers.
Superboy
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[QUOTE=Superboy1]The approach into Medellin is a tricky one, it involves overflying the airport heading south then while making the turn northwards the aircraft is about between ft1000 to ft2000 from a large hill, which is pretty low for a plane flying at 230kts at that point. Once past the high ground around 8miles out the aircraft then needs to loss about ft4000 before landing.
I think maybe one of the reasons the flight attendent was pointing at the overhead panel would becouse on the overhead panel has the controls for the cabin temperature and air con, so I am guessing to was asking the pilot for alittle heat or cooling.
And as for the pilots, to be a pilot in command (Captain) you need atleast 5000 flying hour which can take about 10year plus. Evern if they look young these guys know what they are doing.
Avianca has a good saftey record, when was the last time you heard of an Avianca accident, I belive the last one was back in the early 80s at New York, and the plane ran out of fuel and the engines shut down.
Always remember that flying is the safest way to travel
O. K better stop now, now everyone know I am alittle plane spotter, no I was a aircraft engineer for 9 years.
Superboy[/QUOTE]Great info superboy. I'm keen to know more.
Like if something goes wrong, is it true planes have a back up system and then another one if that fucks up too?
Also how many years/flying hours is it untill a plane has to change it's engines?
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A night with Camila (Karen’s friend).
After my meeting with Lorena (see previous post), I went back to my hotel to work a little bit. I was feeling tired and even slept an hour. It was 8:30 pm when I realised that I was ready for more action.
I decided to try to call some Karen’s friends and see what happens.
Fist number had the cell closed but the second try was luckier and Camila answered the phone. She knew about me as she was the one who recommended Paola, my yesterday’s fuck. She was available and told me that it would take her an hour to prepare herself and arrive. She wanted 80K till I would be tired of her. I guess she didn’t know what she was saying!
As my hotel is new and well hidden, most taxis don’t know it and they get lost. I had to down on the Poblado Ave and guide the Taxi by phone. They had passed in front of the Mall and the hotel twice already going up and down on the Poblado Ave. When Camila finally arrived, I paid the Taxi and discovered a cute tiny girl. Her blouse wouldn’t let me see if her belt was tiny or not but her face and general body was ok to me. While walking till the hotel she asked me if I had condoms. I said no and it doesn’t matter. She looks surprised but didn’t say a word.
I had recommended her to come in a not too sexy clothing to go thru the lobby easily, and she respected that so we walk till the room without anyone asking us to register this visitor.
Once in the room, Camila took her jacket off and start to talk. She was very curious to know me and to learn how it had gone with her friend Paola and how I had known Karen, and. .
I think we remained maybe 30 minutes talking and satisfying each other’s curiosity. Of course, meanwhile we were talking, our hands didn’t remain quite. Camila wanted to have a shower before we would start and it took us almost half hour to go to the bathroom as our nude bodies were locked in a tender embrace, getting to know each other.
But, after a good time, we went to the bathroom, I put my camera in position to make a movie and we start the shower. We use a lot of soap and I rubbed my dick all I could do, but she wouldn’t let me penetrate her. I was a little bit frustrated but I knew I had to wait.
After the shower, we went back to the bed and I started my beloved DATY. She responded well and when my tongue got on her ass she opened it widely! I suck it well and then proposed her to blow me. She is not a pro but did it the best she could and I have to say that it was very good.
Then it was time for intercourse but she took 2 condoms out of her purse. I was, like the day before, in an Olympic shape and I knew I would be able to do her for quite a long time.
We started in missionary and she moans a lot like her friend Paola the day before, telling me that I was very big. I asked her if she wanted to stop if it hurts her but she told me to keep screwing and blocked her legs around my whist inviting me to give her.
We made several positions including doggy (poor Camila), and she was moaning quite well. I asked her several time to get rid of the condom but she kept saying no. So I would do her again and again till being breathless. We had to use lub several time. Finally, probably after a good hour, she told me that the only way for me to have BBFS was to give her an extra 40K! I told her why didn’t you say it earlier? I immediately agree, took the bloody condom out and at last was able to enter BB. That time I concentrate and think that I came in less than 15 minutes. Camila had asked me earlier if I hadn’t come and I told her to relax, and that she would know when I’ll come as I shout when I reach climax. She was surprise though, and starts to laugh when I desperately took my dick out of her to control my climax sending milk everywhere.
We both needed a good rest after that. Surprisingly to me, Camila asked me why didn’t I came in her? I told her that this was a dangerous behaviour to me and that the sperm may contaminate her if I’d be sick. She told me that she was operated for not being pregnant.
We then start to talk; she wanted to know a lot of things and was very curious to know about my mongering life. She also told me a good part of her life and especially about her boyfriend who is very jealous and check her regularly on her home phone. She also wanted to understand my relationship with Karen and was delighted when I told her that she was important to me.
We talk a lot, and at a moment I start to be very tired. I looked my watch, it was almost 3am! Camila and I have been together for almost 5 hours.
I asked her if she wanted to stay and sleep with me, but no, she had to be home for her boyfriend’s early call.
I gave her the promises 80K + the 40K for BBFS and added 10K for taxi.
She then dressed up, kissed good bye asking me when I’ll be back and left.
I will certainly try to repeat her.
I have made 3 movies form my meeting with Camila:
1) 2008-01-31_Mde-Camila'sShower.avi
Size : 60,2Mo
Length : 9’49”
Quality : Ok…(playing with soap, no penetration)
2) 2008-01-31_Mde-Camila'sBBBJ.avi
Size : 11,1Mo
Length : 1’08”
Quality : Ok…
3) 2008-01-31_Mde-Camila'sDoggy.avi
Size : 8,7Mo
Length : 0’50”
Quality : Ok…
[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK522447a4606955030[/url]
Cheers.
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Jaqueline at the De Grieff avenue
I arrived at the beginning of the afternoon at my hotel and immediately decided to hunt some new pussy.
I left my things and jumped in a taxi asking him to let me at the Plaza Botero in the centre.
Once there, I walked down the De Grieff Avenue to look for that cute girl I had seen weeks before.
And I found her at the end of the street where are all the street walkers, at the entrance of the last cheap motel.
Jaqueline is a real cute and skinny girl with a large breast. I talk to her and after 2 minutes I was following her upstairs to the motel.
We had packed DATY & Pictures, 20K for 30’ + room (10k).
We went to an available room and got quickly naked. Jaqueline only let me take one picture of her and that was all. .
Everything had to be covered, and she was mostly mechanic.
I gave her a quick DATY, she gave me a poor CBJ, then we did Missionary and doggy and that was all.
To say the truth, today, 4 days after this meeting, I have almost no remembrance of what we did.
The room had porn on TV and that helped me to come.
Jaqueline is another very cute girl I have tried with no personality, no sexual ability, . Only a very cute girl. That’s why I’m always afraid of 10s.
Cheers
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Col Bog 1,
Great report as always. Have learned a lot from your post in preparation for my trip to Medellin.
BTW, is it possible to have some of your old videos that were posted on uploading.com reposted on steekr?
Spunky168
"The Original Taepo Dong"
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Go the JETS !!
Happy Super Bowl every body, go the JETS !!
Aussie Greg.
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Good response,
I have had numerous request for the Massage services I can provide, it is outcall to your apartment or Hotel, PM for details, its non profit for me, I just like to help the girls make a living at other than sex, they have strong hands, I can attest to the credentials of them all.
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Feb 4th,, March Day!!
Don't forget to participate in the March today,, we all need to support Colombia in its efforts to free itself of Civil war. If you live here or not its a good cause and show we all care for the human family!
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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Happy Super Bowl every body, go the JETS !!
Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE]Sorry Mate, it is the Giants, same city different team. : ) but why would you care? You are living in the middle of a Cuca fest 365 24/7 you lucky bastard!!!
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Smooth Flying in MDE?
The Colombian topography is beautiful to look at from the air, but it does seem to sometimes contribute to some tricky tail and cross winds when landing. My 1st flight to MDE on Avianca (non-stop from JFK) was smooth, but the 2nd one had a missed approach and a hard landing on the 2nd try with one wing partly up in the air while landing!
And it was on that 2nd trip when I noticed what Superboy was talking about. Those hills seem quite close as the pilot sets up for final approach and that last leg where you make that 180 degree turn does feel a little risky, at least to this layperson. I wonder if the pilots have to do that 180 at night under adverse weather conditions? ;)
Still, I've had pretty good experiences so far with Avianca, and you can't blame the landing on the airline.
The Aerorepublica anecdote is a little troubling. I know that an Aerorepublica plane overran the runway at Santa Marta last year and in Cali in 2005. No fatalities in either incident.
So I'm feeling a bit hesitant to try them now, which is too bad because you can now use OnePass miles to fly on them (Continental ff program).
I don't think Aerorepublica has any flights to the USA, unlike Copa and Avianca, so maybe their standards in certain things are not as stringent. That may help explain why their pilots didn't look as professional as what bombero is used to. But I believe they're slated to start flight to MIA sometime this year so they better get their act together! :)
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For Taepo Dong
[QUOTE=Taepo Dong]Col Bog 1,
Great report as always. Have learned a lot from your post in preparation for my trip to Medellin.
BTW, is it possible to have some of your old videos that were posted on uploading.com reposted on steekr?
Spunky168
"The Original Taepo Dong"[/QUOTE]Hi,
Thanks for your good words. I always like to know that someone reads and like my posts and watch my movies.
For the older Video I'll see what I can do to repost them.
Many thanks
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First trip ever to Colombia at end of March
I'm a 15 year veteran of Costa Rica, but I'm headed to Medellin at the end of March for a week. Can anybody direct me to a post that would help a rookie out from A to Z? Possibly, I'll be trying to stay at the Medellin Mansion. As entertaining as all the posts are, I'm trying to save time if anybody can help with an old summary.
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Phunluv]The Colombian topography is beautiful to look at from the air, but it does seem to sometimes contribute to some tricky tail and cross winds when landing. My 1st flight to MDE on Avianca (non-stop from JFK) was smooth, but the 2nd one had a missed approach and a hard landing on the 2nd try with one wing partly up in the air while landing!
And it was on that 2nd trip when I noticed what Superboy was talking about. Those hills seem quite close as the pilot sets up for final approach and that last leg where you make that 180 degree turn does feel a little risky, at least to this layperson. I wonder if the pilots have to do that 180 at night under adverse weather conditions? ;)
Still, I've had pretty good experiences so far with Avianca, and you can't blame the landing on the airline.
The Aerorepublica anecdote is a little troubling. I know that an Aerorepublica plane overran the runway at Santa Marta last year and in Cali in 2005. No fatalities in either incident.
So I'm feeling a bit hesitant to try them now, which is too bad because you can now use OnePass miles to fly on them (Continental ff program).
I don't think Aerorepublica has any flights to the USA, unlike Copa and Avianca, so maybe their standards in certain things are not as stringent. That may help explain why their pilots didn't look as professional as what bombero is used to. But I believe they're slated to start flight to MIA sometime this year so they better get their act together! :)[/QUOTE]All International flights go into Rio Negro, not Medellín. Rio Negro is around 2500 feet higher than Olaya in Medellín. The real tricky flying is into Olaya.
I had lunch a few days ago at Palmitas in Poblado. The open-air tables afford a spectacular view of the valley and Olaya. It's quite a sight watching the planes climbing out of the valley.
And they nearly all fly over my apartment in Conquistadores. Around 6 years ago a plane hit a building at la Universidad Pontificia Bolivariana located between my apartment and Olaya.
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SUPER BOWL at the Mansion/El Castillo
I was close hey! Jets/Giants!
We painted up a few girls at our Super Bowl party.
Aussie Greg.
[QUOTE=Trickbaby]Sorry Mate, it is the Giants, same city different team. : ) but why would you care? You are living in the middle of a Cuca fest 365 24/7 you lucky bastard!!![/QUOTE]
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FYI for Gringo Ricos,
Hey Mates for those of you who want to overpay, then overpay the right Chicas! FYI, the girls at the down under place pull down an average of 150, 000 COP for a sexo completo, todo la noche? , maybe if she likes you, but then again you paid 150, 000 COP and then since you haven't had such good lovin before, you tip her 25, 000 or more. Total damage 175, 000 COP. For you blokes who love the Aussie style I don't fault you, it is a top notch place, kudos to you AG. And to those of you who insist on San Diego show girls with the shabby back room, the high take out fines, or Fase Dose with the over priced cabinas with show quality girls who fuc and suc like a machine in auto, my sympathy, you got your 150, 000 COP fucin alright, just it was you who bent over! You say who the hell made me the xpert? I found education is one of the most expensive things I have had the displeasure to pay for. I wish I was a know it all form the start of my mongering life, I was an overpayin and Chica lovin fool, sad but true. Lets do a 101 on mongering in Medellin, for those of you who take my advise the world of Medellin will open its arms an heart to you. For those of you who continue to have that sinkin feeling an hour after the orgasm has come and gone and you have spent 75. 00 to 100. 00 USA, one half months of the average Colombians wages, You are a fool in gringo clothing. Today I made my usual run to the lower end MPS, Yes, the infamous Centro area where there are an estimated 15 locations to choose from. No it is not for the rush and fuc crowd, you miss the point. The fun is in the hunt for that perfect fit for you, your girl! The rest of this post is FYI, I have enjoyed chicas in most of the MPS in Centro, service is in the eye of the beholder, my 10 is someone elses 5, thats a fact of life. Lets do economics. I pay 40 to 45, 000 for an hour of service, I usually get 30 minutes of Massage from the chica, after all, she is catering to me, not the reverse. The remaining time I spend with foreplay and sex activity, plenty of time to reach climax. I enjoy regular company of one chica whose name is Monica, she is a typical Centro chica, 19, one or no children, from Milagrosa, or one of the poverty barrios. She works in the MPS to support her family, not to buy expensive clothes like the Down under chicas. No offense AG. She doesnt ask to go shopping with you, she doesnt ask to go to expensive resturants, she doesnt ask for cab fare or if she can see you the next day. She is a poor often uneducated chica from the poor side of the tracks, like it or not she is suffering. On an average 8 hour day my regular chica will have 3 to 5 relations, at 45, 000 COP a pop, of which she gets 50 percent! She will earn 45, 000 to 90, 000 COP for the day, some days she only has 2 relations, mid week is the worse for her, compare this to the San Diego Show or Fase Dose or even a Down under girl who makes this in an hour or two, well you get the idea. I can tell you for a fact most chicas in the MPS will give you their cell contact number for after hours service to your Hotel room or an agreed upon location for one half the cost of the other guys place! Couple this with 75, 000 COP total cost and there you have the buy of the week, ! Lets keep the prices real, lets support those who need the pesos most, a tip goes a long ways with the Centro chicas, the aim to please, don't believe me? Just pay the madam or jeffe at the centro mps, then when you get in the room take out 25, 000 to 50, 000 pesos, show the chica and tell muy bueno servicio, Muy bueno propina, she will most likely over perform to please you, this is real, this is life in Colombia, not in the Zoo for a big game hunt, or Disney World for the thrill seeker, this is life in the streets, ask any veteran on this ite, can I get an AMEN!
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Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Jchipper]Hey Mates for those of you who want to overpay, then overpay the right Chicas! FYI, the girls at the down under place pull down an average of 150, 000 COP for a sexo completo, todo la noche? , maybe if she likes you, but then again you paid 150, 000 COP and then since you haven't had such good lovin before, you tip her 25, 000 or more. Total damage 175, 000 COP. For you blokes who love the Aussie style I don't fault you, it is a top notch place, kudos to you AG. And to those of you who insist on San Diego show girls with the shabby back room, the high take out fines, or Fase Dose with the over priced cabinas with show quality girls who fuc and suc like a machine in auto, my sympathy, you got your 150, 000 COP fucin alright, just it was you who bent over! You say who the hell made me the xpert? I found education is one of the most expensive things I have had the displeasure to pay for. I wish I was a know it all form the start of my mongering life, I was an overpayin and Chica lovin fool, sad but true. Lets do a 101 on mongering in Medellin, for those of you who take my advise the world of Medellin will open its arms an heart to you. For those of you who continue to have that sinkin feeling an hour after the orgasm has come and gone and you have spent 75. 00 to 100. 00 USA, one half months of the average Colombians wages, You are a fool in gringo clothing. Today I made my usual run to the lower end MPS, Yes, the infamous Centro area where there are an estimated 15 locations to choose from. No it is not for the rush and fuc crowd, you miss the point. The fun is in the hunt for that perfect fit for you, your girl! The rest of this post is FYI, I have enjoyed chicas in most of the MPS in Centro, service is in the eye of the beholder, my 10 is someone elses 5, thats a fact of life. Lets do economics. I pay 40 to 45, 000 for an hour of service, I usually get 30 minutes of Massage from the chica, after all, she is catering to me, not the reverse. The remaining time I spend with foreplay and sex activity, plenty of time to reach climax. I enjoy regular company of one chica whose name is Monica, she is a typical Centro chica, 19, one or no children, from Milagrosa, or one of the poverty barrios. She works in the MPS to support her family, not to buy expensive clothes like the Down under chicas. No offense AG. She doesnt ask to go shopping with you, she doesnt ask to go to expensive resturants, she doesnt ask for cab fare or if she can see you the next day. She is a poor often uneducated chica from the poor side of the tracks, like it or not she is suffering. On an average 8 hour day my regular chica will have 3 to 5 relations, at 45, 000 COP a pop, of which she gets 50 percent! She will earn 45, 000 to 90, 000 COP for the day, some days she only has 2 relations, mid week is the worse for her, compare this to the San Diego Show or Fase Dose or even a Down under girl who makes this in an hour or two, well you get the idea. I can tell you for a fact most chicas in the MPS will give you their cell contact number for after hours service to your Hotel room or an agreed upon location for one half the cost of the other guys place! Couple this with 75, 000 COP total cost and there you have the buy of the week, ! Lets keep the prices real, lets support those who need the pesos most, a tip goes a long ways with the Centro chicas, the aim to please, don't believe me? Just pay the madam or jeffe at the centro mps, then when you get in the room take out 25, 000 to 50, 000 pesos, show the chica and tell muy bueno servicio, Muy bueno propina, she will most likely over perform to please you, this is real, this is life in Colombia, not in the Zoo for a big game hunt, or Disney World for the thrill seeker, this is life in the streets, ask any veteran on this ite, can I get an AMEN![/QUOTE]Awesome posts! Amen! These guys that are coming down once or twice a year is spoiling it for everyone by them throwing money around acting like "big ballers"! Save that shit for vegas guys! Not Medellin!
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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]I was close hey! Jets/Giants!
We painted up a few girls at our Super Bowl party.
Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE]Nice paint jobs ;-))
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[QUOTE=Tom 33]All International flights go into Rio Negro, not Medellín. Rio Negro is around 2500 feet higher than Olaya in Medellín. The real tricky flying is into Olaya.
I had lunch a few days ago at Palmitas in Poblado. The open-air tables afford a spectacular view of the valley and Olaya. It's quite a sight watching the planes climbing out of the valley.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm pretty sure that can be even trickier, going right inside the Aburrá valley. One time, I rented an apt. in Poblado that was on the 14th floor, so I had a good view of the approach pattern. Those planes come down heading south over Poblado and do their 180 turn into Olaya. When I mentioned MDE airport, that's the code for the intl. airport at Rio Negro, the code for Olaya I think is EOH.
I think Olaya closes at dusk, unlike Rio Negro where the flights from Panama City and Miami come in at night. I'd imagine the airport shuts down as well when there's thunderstorms over the valley which as you know is pretty common!
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Down Under Girl
Jchip,
A ¨Down Under Girl¨ I like that!
More pic´s of some Down Under Girls¨ at our Super Bowl party.
Aussie Greg P.S. I believe there was a sausage festa over at the Champions Bar on 80th Ave!
[QUOTE=Jchipper]Hey Mates for those of you who want to overpay, then overpay the right Chicas! FYI, the girls at the down under place pull down an average of 150, 000 COP for a sexo completo, todo la noche? , maybe if she likes you, but then again you paid 150, 000 COP and then since you haven't had such good lovin before, you tip her 25, 000 or more. Total damage 175, 000 COP. For you blokes who love the Aussie style I don't fault you, it is a top notch place, kudos to you AG. And to those of you who insist on San Diego show girls with the shabby back room, the high take out fines, or Fase Dose with the over priced cabinas with show quality girls who fuc and suc like a machine in auto, my sympathy, you got your 150, 000 COP fucin alright, just it was you who bent over! You say who the hell made me the xpert? I found education is one of the most expensive things I have had the displeasure to pay for. I wish I was a know it all form the start of my mongering life, I was an overpayin and Chica lovin fool, sad but true. Lets do a 101 on mongering in Medellin, for those of you who take my advise the world of Medellin will open its arms an heart to you. For those of you who continue to have that sinkin feeling an hour after the orgasm has come and gone and you have spent 75. 00 to 100. 00 USA, one half months of the average Colombians wages, You are a fool in gringo clothing. Today I made my usual run to the lower end MPS, Yes, the infamous Centro area where there are an estimated 15 locations to choose from. No it is not for the rush and fuc crowd, you miss the point. The fun is in the hunt for that perfect fit for you, your girl! The rest of this post is FYI, I have enjoyed chicas in most of the MPS in Centro, service is in the eye of the beholder, my 10 is someone elses 5, thats a fact of life. Lets do economics. I pay 40 to 45, 000 for an hour of service, I usually get 30 minutes of Massage from the chica, after all, she is catering to me, not the reverse. The remaining time I spend with foreplay and sex activity, plenty of time to reach climax. I enjoy regular company of one chica whose name is Monica, she is a typical Centro chica, 19, one or no children, from Milagrosa, or one of the poverty barrios. She works in the MPS to support her family, not to buy expensive clothes like the Down under chicas. No offense AG. She doesnt ask to go shopping with you, she doesnt ask to go to expensive resturants, she doesnt ask for cab fare or if she can see you the next day. She is a poor often uneducated chica from the poor side of the tracks, like it or not she is suffering. On an average 8 hour day my regular chica will have 3 to 5 relations, at 45, 000 COP a pop, of which she gets 50 percent! She will earn 45, 000 to 90, 000 COP for the day, some days she only has 2 relations, mid week is the worse for her, compare this to the San Diego Show or Fase Dose or even a Down under girl who makes this in an hour or two, well you get the idea. I can tell you for a fact most chicas in the MPS will give you their cell contact number for after hours service to your Hotel room or an agreed upon location for one half the cost of the other guys place! Couple this with 75, 000 COP total cost and there you have the buy of the week, ! Lets keep the prices real, lets support those who need the pesos most, a tip goes a long ways with the Centro chicas, the aim to please, don't believe me? Just pay the madam or jeffe at the centro mps, then when you get in the room take out 25, 000 to 50, 000 pesos, show the chica and tell muy bueno servicio, Muy bueno propina, she will most likely over perform to please you, this is real, this is life in Colombia, not in the Zoo for a big game hunt, or Disney World for the thrill seeker, this is life in the streets, ask any veteran on this ite, can I get an AMEN!
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Awesome Pics
Aussie Greg: Loved the pics and your tribute to the game. If the ladies you had in the pics are examples of what you have hanging around the mansion all the time, I can see why you are always booked up. In the pics, does the painted babe wearing #5 have a name?
I am not much of an artist, but I think could have relived some of my childhood by doing some finger painting at your party. The pictures looked like you used a spray gun to paint the ladies. I think you should have finger painted all of them. They may not have looked as professionally painted when you were done, but the memory of preparing for the game would have been a touch more memorable.
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[QUOTE=Jchipper]Hey Mates for those of you who want to overpay, then overpay the right Chicas! FYI, the girls at the down under place pull down an average of 150, 000 COP for a sexo completo, todo la noche? , maybe if she likes you, but then again you paid 150, 000 COP and then since you haven't had such good lovin before, you tip her 25, 000 or more. Total damage 175, 000 COP. For you blokes who love the Aussie style I don't fault you, it is a top notch place, kudos to you AG. And to those of you who insist on San Diego show girls with the shabby back room, the high take out fines, or Fase Dose with the over priced cabinas with show quality girls who fuc and suc like a machine in auto, my sympathy, you got your 150, 000 COP fucin alright, just it was you who bent over! You say who the hell made me the xpert? I found education is one of the most expensive things I have had the displeasure to pay for. I wish I was a know it all form the start of my mongering life, I was an overpayin and Chica lovin fool, sad but true. Lets do a 101 on mongering in Medellin, for those of you who take my advise the world of Medellin will open its arms an heart to you. For those of you who continue to have that sinkin feeling an hour after the orgasm has come and gone and you have spent 75. 00 to 100. 00 USA, one half months of the average Colombians wages, You are a fool in gringo clothing. Today I made my usual run to the lower end MPS, Yes, the infamous Centro area where there are an estimated 15 locations to choose from. No it is not for the rush and fuc crowd, you miss the point. The fun is in the hunt for that perfect fit for you, your girl! The rest of this post is FYI, I have enjoyed chicas in most of the MPS in Centro, service is in the eye of the beholder, my 10 is someone elses 5, thats a fact of life. Lets do economics. I pay 40 to 45, 000 for an hour of service, I usually get 30 minutes of Massage from the chica, after all, she is catering to me, not the reverse. The remaining time I spend with foreplay and sex activity, plenty of time to reach climax. I enjoy regular company of one chica whose name is Monica, she is a typical Centro chica, 19, one or no children, from Milagrosa, or one of the poverty barrios. She works in the MPS to support her family, not to buy expensive clothes like the Down under chicas. No offense AG. She doesnt ask to go shopping with you, she doesnt ask to go to expensive resturants, she doesnt ask for cab fare or if she can see you the next day. She is a poor often uneducated chica from the poor side of the tracks, like it or not she is suffering. On an average 8 hour day my regular chica will have 3 to 5 relations, at 45, 000 COP a pop, of which she gets 50 percent! She will earn 45, 000 to 90, 000 COP for the day, some days she only has 2 relations, mid week is the worse for her, compare this to the San Diego Show or Fase Dose or even a Down under girl who makes this in an hour or two, well you get the idea. I can tell you for a fact most chicas in the MPS will give you their cell contact number for after hours service to your Hotel room or an agreed upon location for one half the cost of the other guys place! Couple this with 75, 000 COP total cost and there you have the buy of the week, ! Lets keep the prices real, lets support those who need the pesos most, a tip goes a long ways with the Centro chicas, the aim to please, don't believe me? Just pay the madam or jeffe at the centro mps, then when you get in the room take out 25, 000 to 50, 000 pesos, show the chica and tell muy bueno servicio, Muy bueno propina, she will most likely over perform to please you, this is real, this is life in Colombia, not in the Zoo for a big game hunt, or Disney World for the thrill seeker, this is life in the streets, ask any veteran on this ite, can I get an AMEN![/QUOTE]Heya Chipper, I'll give ya an Amen amigo!
I absolutely love the hunt for "la diamante" (the diamond), whether it be in the el Centro MPs, SW, San Diego, wherever.
I've even found them amongst the Mansion chicas.
Like I've said before though, to each their own. I enjoy the hunt like yourself, but not everyone does.
A lot of guys want the convenience of a gringo establishment. Food, shelter, internet, other gringos, and easy access chicas ... even though they may be high priced for Colombia.
Big deal. That's what they want and enjoy, that's what they get.
Not everyone has the ability to go out and schmooze the chicas, even the working chica, and find chemestry. Not everyone wants to either.
I really could care less what one gringo pays if he wants. It won't affect what I pay.
I learned long ago that if a chica digs you, she could be a simple MP chica or a hard core Mansion pro, you can set your own price.
Depends on you and her, your skills, personality, etc.
Saying that, I will say again that yes you are right on the money amigo, there is no need to spend high peso for chicas if you don't want.
Mucha suerte amigos!
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Number 5, Milena.
Puss,
Yes Milena visits the Mansion when she can, another University student.
All the girls that were painted are University students, we wanted another 4 girls painted (2 girls in my temsa colours New York Jets) but we ran out of time (we started at 11.30 am and they finished the last one at 5.30pm)
We used the guy that paints all the girls at Mango´s, his name is Mario, nice guy and his two helpers.
I have some more pic´s over at the Mansion Thread.
Aussie Greg
[QUOTE=Pussy Luver]Aussie Greg: Loved the pics and your tribute to the game. If the ladies you had in the pics are examples of what you have hanging around the mansion all the time, I can see why you are always booked up. In the pics, does the painted babe wearing #5 have a name?
I am not much of an artist, but I think could have relived some of my childhood by doing some finger painting at your party. The pictures looked like you used a spray gun to paint the ladies. I think you should have finger painted all of them. They may not have looked as professionally painted when you were done, but the memory of preparing for the game would have been a touch more memorable.[/QUOTE]
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Sweet pics AG, the Down Under Girls are hot. I can say from visiting your place that you do run a 1st class operation and I recomend anyone who visits Medellin for the first time or for a return trip ''Stay at the Mansion''. The location, the service, the price and the fellowship with friends, a cold beer exchanging stories, priceless! I, like you live in Medellin, I know we want to keep the place the paradise it is. My last trip to Costa Rica hit me like a sack of kanga doo! Try the blue marlin bar where half the girls were Colombian an asking for 100 usa to 150 usa for a pop in the sack, hmmm, I smell crap! AG is a businessman and a gentleman, he runs a hotel wih class. He doesnt get kick backs from the chicas selling sexo completo, he runs a hotel. So just ask AG or one of his associates to advise you on the alternatives to the high price chicas that frequent the place. They don't care if you bring back a chica from the barrios or the streets, they run a hotel not a brothel. This is just my 2 cents, AG may have a different opinion, but I think if enough of you gents who stay with AG give a good laugh when the chica by the pool says 150, 000 for her favors she may be smart enough to realize she is selling apples to an apple farmer, you know the real deal! Please report on how well you did with getting the price down, down under what the down under girls are asking for! Regards AG and the fans, Chipper, ps PM me if no one will show you the ropes, I always enjoy a wingman maverick when I bit the streets, I have made 6 or so friends here on the forum by such an invitation.
Chipper
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Jackson,
A Report of Disriction.
Aussie Greg
[QUOTE=Jchipper]Sweet pics AG, the Down Under Girls are hot. I can say from visiting your place that you do run a 1st class operation and I recomend anyone who visits Medellin for the first time or for a return trip ''Stay at the Mansion''. The location, the service, the price and the fellowship with friends, a cold beer exchanging stories, priceless! I, like you live in Medellin, I know we want to keep the place the paradise it is. My last trip to Costa Rica hit me like a sack of kanga doo! Try the blue marlin bar where half the girls were Colombian an asking for 100 usa to 150 usa for a pop in the sack, hmmm, I smell crap! AG is a businessman and a gentleman, he runs a hotel wih class. He doesnt get kick backs from the chicas selling sexo completo, he runs a hotel. So just ask AG or one of his associates to advise you on the alternatives to the high price chicas that frequent the place. They don't care if you bring back a chica from the barrios or the streets, they run a hotel not a brothel. This is just my 2 cents, AG may have a different opinion, but I think if enough of you gents who stay with AG give a good laugh when the chica by the pool says 150, 000 for her favors she may be smart enough to realize she is selling apples to an apple farmer, you know the real deal! Please report on how well you did with getting the price down, down under what the down under girls are asking for! Regards AG and the fans, Chipper, ps PM me if no one will show you the ropes, I always enjoy a wingman maverick when I bit the streets, I have made 6 or so friends here on the forum by such an invitation.
Chipper[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Jchip,
A ¨Down Under Girl¨ I like that!
More pic´s of some Down Under Girls¨ at our Super Bowl party.
Aussie Greg P.S. I believe there was a sausage festa over at the Champions Bar on 80th Ave![/QUOTE]Now for them I would be singing are you ready for some football!
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Chipper Pimpin Aint Easy
Everything YOU SAID IS THE TRUTH. You've convinced me to go to medalin. And I'm staying in centro. I'm going to look up these massage parlors, but I prefer freelancers that I can earhustle into more time and service. I also agree that when dealing with girls directly we're giving the money to the people who really need it.
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We set the price!
[QUOTE=Jchipper] AG may have a different opinion, but I think if enough of you gents who stay with AG give a good laugh when the chica by the pool says 150, 000 for her favors she may be smart enough to realize she is selling apples to an apple farmer, you know the real deal! Please report on how well you did with getting the price down, down under what the down under girls are asking for!
Chipper[/QUOTE]Jchipper,
I have said many times in previous posts that it is up to the clients of the MM and not AG to keep the MM Paisa prices in check. This is not unachievable by no means. In fact I'll share this recent event with you all.
Two weeks ago I arrived in Medellin for a couple of days after visiting Cali for 10 days. There was no rooms available at the Mansion or Castillo so I stayed at a friends Condo in Medellin. It was a Tuesday late afternoon when I got a call from Medellin Bob. He tells me there is a MM gal at the Mansion that is in need of some rent money but has no takers at the Mansion (all the guys were occupied). He said she used to work a Loutron's as well so it tells me that she is probably above average. Now I advise Bob that I don't pay what is considered "usual MM prices". He says she's desperate and will probably negotiate. Well it so happened that I was heading down to the Mansion to visit with AG anyway so I agreed to take a look see. I show up a half hour later and exchange niceties with AG and I meet the very lovely Marjorie. She is definitely a Paisa beauty and is immediately excited to see her John (me) had arrived. She's sweet and we are soon snuggling in one of the big MM easy chairs and I tell her that I am happy to help out her financial situation but explain to her quickly, directly and confidently that I am accustomed to paying $80, 000 to $100, 000 for an "unhurried" locking of loins and payment is done afterward. I tell her I want to be up front so there are no surprises. I tell her if she is unhappy with the offer, I'd be happy to take my fingers out from the crack of her ass and she can pursue another. She laughs and says she'd be fine with the offer of $100, 000 and so after about 20 minutes we left for my place. So long story short, we had a photo session (I promised I would not post though) and she delivers a most rewarding romp in the hay. Afterwards she surprisingly wanted to me to shower with her and washed my entire body all the while playing kissy face (a nice GFE touch).
I gave her the $100, 000 and also intended to give her an additional $10, 000 for a taxi but the smallest bill I had was $20, 000 so I gave her that. She returned the favor by giving me her phone number and asked me to call whenever the mood should occur. She leaves in good spirits.
Now I could see Marjorie getting $150, 000. $200, 000 or more easily from the right John that perhaps doesn't feel the need to keep prices in check. In fact I'm sure she's seen better paydays. Well bless her soul if she has or will but it will not be from myself. No matter how hot the coochie is I'm not the shopping spree type either.
However, in Medellin, despite what myself and others say/write/preach, there are still going to be those guys who will fuck the exact same MM girl pussy as we but for a heck of a lot more $$$$ and for no good reason.
So gents, it's up to us to practice price control and not AG and definitely not the girls.
BTW. Like I mentioned above, I had spent 10 days in Cali where I never paid more than $40, 000 average for an hour at the casas and $120, 00 for TLN. I have included a few of these Calenas below. As a side note I have always found on average that the Calenas give better GFE than the Paisas. Again, just my opinion.
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[QUOTE=Cubanut] ... However, in Medellin, despite what myself and others say/write/preach, there are still going to be those guys who will fuck the exact same MM girl pussy as we but for a heck of a lot more $$$$ and for no good reason.
So gents, it's up to us to practice price control and not AG and definitely not the girls ...[/QUOTE]Right on Cuba!
Like I always say, what one guy pays, doesn't affect my price at all.
Like you did with that chica, you have to be willing to walk away. There's always another chica just around the corner, at least in America del Sur :)
See ya around amigo, but most likely in Argentina for a spell.
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Now thats a good post, advise and results! Cubanut you are well versed and I enjoy that while you stay at the MM you dont have to pay the going rate.Thanks for the kudos AG, Gregs place is the best , location, location and the service with a smile. I live about 5 blocks form the MM and Poblado is the best Medellin has to offer. I sessioned again yesterday at Venus and it still amazes me at the number of girls that work the Centro MPS who have never been to Poblado. It is a different world they live in ,,thanks to all of you who vist Medellin and enjoy its beauty in its many forms. For the lucky few of us who call this home your God has blesssed you. Best of times to you all,,and travel well.
Chipper
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Pass Me a Calena Please
[QUOTE=Cubanut]....BTW. Like I mentioned above, I had spent 10 days in Cali where I never paid more than $40, 000 average for an hour at the casas and $120, 00 for TLN. I have included a few of these Calenas below. [/QUOTE]Are these photos recent?
They are all good but number 2 is really tasty!
Thanks!
Polvo
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Repost
[QUOTE=Taepo Dong]Col Bog 1,
...
BTW, is it possible to have some of your old videos that were posted on uploading.com reposted on steekr?
Spunky168
"The Original Taepo Dong"[/QUOTE]As requested by Taepo Dong, I have copied all my uploading.com movies to steekR (no addware).
This is a total of 11 movies, most from Medellin.
Enjoy
[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK714647adb3666206e[/url]
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pic : 1jpg.
Damn she's sexy!
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[QUOTE=Ricker]Heya Chipper, I'll give ya an Amen amigo!
I absolutely love the hunt for "la diamante" (the diamond), whether it be in the el Centro MPs, SW, San Diego, wherever.
Like I've said before though, to each their own. I enjoy the hunt like yourself, but not everyone does.
A lot of guys want the convenience of a gringo establishment. Food, shelter, internet, other gringos, and easy access chicas ... even though they may be high priced for Colombia.
Not everyone has the ability to go out and schmooze the chicas, even the working chica, and find chemestry. Not everyone wants to either.
I really could care less what one gringo pays if he wants. It won't affect what I pay.
I learned long ago that if a chica digs you, she could be a simple MP chica or a hard core Mansion pro, you can set your own price.
Depends on you and her, your skills, personality, etc.
Saying that, I will say again that yes you are right on the money amigo, there is no need to spend high peso for chicas if you don't want.
Mucha suerte amigos![/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. I love the hunt, even moreso than the sexo sometimes.
Also, do not get how anyone could be satisfied with someone else providing them ladies. Back when I was traveling to Costa Rica, hanging out in the Hotel Del Rey with 100's of working-chicas, I sometimes had a difficult time finding something that I liked, now how can someone provide 4-5 ladies for me to choose from, NOT!
But as you mentioned, not evereyone has the skills and personality. I speak fluent espanol and talk to the ladies all night long that they forget they're working. It has worked wonders for me in Costa Rica and even moreso in Medellin.
I've paid $30 USD for TLN for some very hot, young, spinners in MDE. I've actually have had to stop myself in the middle of the action to pinch myself, several times. It's truly amazing what is available in MDE.
What I love most about MDE is that the scene is not wide open like in Costa Rica, which is a dump as far as I'm concerned, it does not come anywhere close to being as wonderful a city as Medellin.
I suggest everyone find themselve a good wingman and get out of El Pobaldo and explore the endless possibilites that are available to all of us. Ugly Americans need not arrive to the city of eternal spring.
This is Medellin, Colombia - [url]http://www.medellintraveler.com[/url]
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Hi
Hi,
Sounds like you had a great one in Medellin, put me on her list!
4 and 2 Calenas, will you please tell me how to get in touch for my next trip?
I will be in Tulua in May...
Thanks
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Jchipper,
I have said many times in previous posts that it is up to the clients of the MM and not AG to keep the MM Paisa prices in check. This is not unachievable by no means. In fact I'll share this recent event with you all.
Two weeks ago I arrived in Medellin for a couple of days after visiting Cali for 10 days. There was no rooms available at the Mansion or Castillo so I stayed at a friends Condo in Medellin. It was a Tuesday late afternoon when I got a call from Medellin Bob. He tells me there is a MM gal at the Mansion that is in need of some rent money but has no takers at the Mansion (all the guys were occupied). He said she used to work a Loutron's as well so it tells me that she is probably above average. Now I advise Bob that I don't pay what is considered "usual MM prices". He says she's desperate and will probably negotiate. Well it so happened that I was heading down to the Mansion to visit with AG anyway so I agreed to take a look see. I show up a half hour later and exchange niceties with AG and I meet the very lovely Marjorie. She is definitely a Paisa beauty and is immediately excited to see her John (me) had arrived. She's sweet and we are soon snuggling in one of the big MM easy chairs and I tell her that I am happy to help out her financial situation but explain to her quickly, directly and confidently that I am accustomed to paying $80, 000 to $100, 000 for an "unhurried" locking of loins and payment is done afterward. I tell her I want to be up front so there are no surprises. I tell her if she is unhappy with the offer, I'd be happy to take my fingers out from the crack of her ass and she can pursue another. She laughs and says she'd be fine with the offer of $100, 000 and so after about 20 minutes we left for my place. So long story short, we had a photo session (I promised I would not post though) and she delivers a most rewarding romp in the hay. Afterwards she surprisingly wanted to me to shower with her and washed my entire body all the while playing kissy face (a nice GFE touch).
I gave her the $100, 000 and also intended to give her an additional $10, 000 for a taxi but the smallest bill I had was $20, 000 so I gave her that. She returned the favor by giving me her phone number and asked me to call whenever the mood should occur. She leaves in good spirits.
Now I could see Marjorie getting $150, 000. $200, 000 or more easily from the right John that perhaps doesn't feel the need to keep prices in check. In fact I'm sure she's seen better paydays. Well bless her soul if she has or will but it will not be from myself. No matter how hot the coochie is I'm not the shopping spree type either.
However, in Medellin, despite what myself and others say/write/preach, there are still going to be those guys who will fuck the exact same MM girl pussy as we but for a heck of a lot more $$$$ and for no good reason.
So gents, it's up to us to practice price control and not AG and definitely not the girls.
BTW. Like I mentioned above, I had spent 10 days in Cali where I never paid more than $40, 000 average for an hour at the casas and $120, 00 for TLN. I have included a few of these Calenas below. As a side note I have always found on average that the Calenas give better GFE than the Paisas. Again, just my opinion.
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Word for Wise,,
Today was a strak reminder we live in Colombia not small town USA, Yesterday my Brother in law had a meeting with the town people of Belen and Agua Frias. It was a business meeting as we are involved with some enviormental issues in the area. My sister and law called to see how things were going for him so he pulled to the side of the road to speak with her since he was on the road at the time. As he spoke 2 young men on a motorcycle pulled to the side of his vehicle on North hwy / a 96 model Toyota Land Cruiser/ silver in color, and put a gun to the side of his head and demanded the vehicle. He is a pretty tough fellow so he talked shit and they put him to the ground and drove away with the SUV. He survived the attack but now faces a period of time without the truck. The insurance will pay for the vehicle and why he didn't just give it up I will never know. He could be dead today if not for the grace of God, or Luck, whichever you prefer. I have been Lucky with my time here, no attacks thus far. Then I get another phone call from my friend a software designer who was having lunch in a posh resturant in Poblado, while she enjoyed her glass of wine from out of nowhere a young Colombian male runs past the resturant and purse snatches her purse as she exits the place. She is also Lucky as she was unharmed, she is minus her valuables but she is alive to tell the story. I know you guys think this is no different than any American city, yes it could happen any where. Just be careful out there, this is still a Dangerous place. Where desperate people do desperate things.
Cheers to you all and travel safe.
Jchipper
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Moral of the story: you don't drive around Colombia in Land Cruisers even if they are old.
A friend of mine had his cell phone snatched from his hand while talking in front of Unicentro Mall in Laureles (MDE) around noon on a week day. It was a guy on a moto.
Friends in Cartagena have told me of an increase in bus robberies. A couple of thugs get on a bus and look around a bit. Then they relieve each passenger of his/her stuff.
Oh yeah, and this can happen in any US city. Jajajaja.
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AG's Photos
Thanks for the great photos Aussie Greg. Those girls look top notch and love the body painting. Don't like to see the silverbacks as clients though, already enough of them in Brazil.
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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]I was close hey! Jets/Giants!
We painted up a few girls at our Super Bowl party.
Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE]WOW!
They are all soo fine and soo gorgeous! I hope I make it there soon and run into #12!!
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[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]As requested by Taepo Dong, I have copied all my uploading.com movies to steekR (no addware).
This is a total of 11 movies, most from Medellin.
Enjoy
[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK714647adb3666206e[/url][/QUOTE]Thank you, Col Bog 1.
Spunky168
"The Original Taepo Dong"
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When was the last time this happened in a Colombian city
[QUOTE=Tom 33]Moral of the story: you don't drive around Colombia in Land Cruisers even if they are old.
A friend of mine had his cell phone snatched from his hand while talking in front of Unicentro Mall in Laureles (MDE) around noon on a week day. It was a guy on a moto.
Friends in Cartagena have told me of an increase in bus robberies. A couple of thugs get on a bus and look around a bit. Then they relieve each passenger of his/her stuff.
Oh yeah, and this can happen in any US city. Jajajaja.[/QUOTE]Tom 33,
Well here in the midwest in a peaceful Chicago suburb we just had 5 women lose there lives when an asshole tried to rob a womens clothing store. The idiot decides to rob the store on an early Sunday morning when there is NO money in the register yet. Flustered, he figures he can rob the 6 women in the store. So he duct tapes them and robs them. Then apparently he felt he could not leave any witnesses who have seen his face so he proceeds to shoot each woman in the head. Fortunately he misses one woman's head and hits her in the neck and hits no vitals.
The result is five innocent women killed for some petty cash and a few gold chains. The survivor has been able to give a good description of this bastard coward.
I hope they fry the fucker. Oh yeah, I forgot they can't because this state does not believe in capitol punishment. Worse he will get, if caught, is life without parole.
Sorry to rant but it just gets me when people Colombian or any other country as being less safe than the USA. Oh sure you can stay away from dangerous places in foreign countries but just how safe are you in your own hometown?
Cheers,
Cubanut
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[QUOTE=Cubanut]Sorry to rant but it just gets me when people Colombian or any other country as being less safe than the USA. Oh sure you can stay away from dangerous places in foreign countries but just how safe are you in your own hometown?[/QUOTE]Hi Cubanut,
So I take it you haven't had any safety issues in Cali? ;)
I ask since you seem to go there quite a bit, and I've always heard it's one of the more dangerous cities in Colombia. Be safe buddy y nunca dar papaya!
Also, it's good to hear your info on pricing. Keep in mind Cali's economy is a bit depressed compared to Medellin and Bogota so prices there should be a bit lower.
As for the Loutron babe anecdote. Well, I'll STILL insist there are some top notch bodies that are simply not available at the 100K level. Maybe if they're "desperate" as you yourself admitted was the case here. But I don't want to sink into a flame war over pricing and I do think that the normal pretty girls which are a dime a dozen in Colombia are available for very reasonable prices assuming you can talk to them in Spanish.
Thanks again for the pics, and I'll try that fingers-on-the-butt-crack trick when negotiating terms next time I'm down there!
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[QUOTE=Cubanut]Tom 33,
Well here in the midwest in a peaceful Chicago suburb we just had 5 women lose there lives when an asshole tried to rob a womens clothing store. The idiot decides to rob the store on an early Sunday morning when there is NO money in the register yet. Flustered, he figures he can rob the 6 women in the store. So he duct tapes them and robs them. Then apparently he felt he could not leave any witnesses who have seen his face so he proceeds to shoot each woman in the head. Fortunately he misses one woman's head and hits her in the neck and hits no vitals.
The result is five innocent women killed for some petty cash and a few gold chains. The survivor has been able to give a good description of this bastard coward.
I hope they fry the fucker. Oh yeah, I forgot they can't because this state does not believe in capitol punishment. Worse he will get, if caught, is life without parole.
Sorry to rant but it just gets me when people Colombian or any other country as being less safe than the USA. Oh sure you can stay away from dangerous places in foreign countries but just how safe are you in your own hometown?
Cheers,
Cubanut[/QUOTE]Shit happens anywhere. Life is much cheaper in Colombia than it is in the US. Reality gets to you? There is no comparison between US and Colombian safety.
When was the last time you had to worry about being robbed or kidnapped driving to Wisconsin for the weekend?
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10 vs 6.5
Yesterday was a day of adventure and fun for the Col and I. We met at Mc Donalds in Pobaldo and we were off to my favorite spot for chica hunting '' ElCentro''. There are so many places to see and such little time in a day of hunting. We first made the Estabul mp as I have frequented the place and found it to have some nice talent on a regular basis. As I explained before I never count out a place due to no talent available on any given day. There are many days when the girls choose not to work and some like the weekends only, so the quality and number in the line up changes daily in the mps. The last visit I spotted 10 girls in the line up of 14 that were possibilities but yesterday he only had 4 available and only 2 to my specifications so the Col and I moved on. Next stop was Kamasutras, one of my favorite places in Centro as they almost always have a good selection of girls and he often has new staff with only a few days in the business. The downside is he only has 3 rooms for service the clients so you may have to wait for a room. The Col found a nice flaca there that agreed to his needs and she allowed pictures that the Col will likely share in a later post. I was more in the mood for conversation plus I didn't take my blue pill yet and knew most of the girls from previous sessions. After the Col finished we headed for Venus, I like the madam there because she is very sweet and recomends me the best girl for service and looks, Looks are a plus but as I will explain not the factor to determine the selection! Nothing in the line up caught my eye so we moved on to Lindas Chicas, Dammm what nice place for a Centro location, its outside appearance and location deny its elegance and quality once the doors opens. It is pricy, but not. The cost for 2. 5 to 3 hours with a chica is 100, 000 for the girl, 70, 000 for the house, so 170, 000 divided by 3 isn't a bad value considering the quality of the chicas and the nice decor and upper stlye of the casa. The only problem is they drink hustle you with the arrival of the chica, our first chica hollered whisky form the madam twice, I asked how much and the madam answered 15, 000 for the glass, nah, I told the Madam no as we were not sure we wanted this chica so we were not buying a drink for her! After the presentation we decided to move on and not session as we had a mission to see as many locations as time would allow. Off to Calle 33 where we visited Samsara, Abydos, and Blue Room, its funny how the presentation differs and the price changes when you change neighborhoods. The White lab coats and Victoria Secret lingerie are like a fashion show of sorts, they enter spin and remove the lab coat to show the gifts for your delight. Then the madam explains the price list, cheap is 65, 000 but the selection is confuseing, she explined, massage no relation no manual stimulation, massage with relation, massage with manual stimulation, stimulation no massage, two girls massage and one realtion or the value pack 2 girls two realtions, damm is this fuckd up or what? I like the all inclusive one price for all without all this individual service cost! After we excused ourselves form the firts couple without selection of a chica we arrived at Blue Room, another of the mid range places in the area, 65, 000 to 115, 000 depends on what service you prefer. The line up was sweet and the final chica was 4'7'' of heaven for me, she was soo beautiful, no strecth marks, long straight black hair, perky breast 23 inch waist and a volley ball shapes ass, No it can not be perfection on calle 33. I couldn't resist, and the Col nodded in anticipation of my selection, Off to paraidse with my angel! I agreed to massage, and one relation with her for 75, 000 for one hour, 59 minutes too long as I would soon discover. Why is it the perfect 10 a perfect 2 in the bed? She was as cold as ice in the artic, she let me shower solo, gave the massage on the side of me clothed, wiped me 4 times with anticeptic cream before she covered me for the BJ, damm girl I am clean from the shower! I am 5'9, 34 inch waist, 54 years and not bad to look at, I dress well and have good hygene, this girl was so obsessed with germs she must have been a med student! When she reoved her clothes she was perfect, I became hard in an instant anticipating foreplay with this beauty, so far not good but maybe? I began to fondle her and she stared with the rules, Not fingers enter the pussy, only light with the clit, breast tender do not touch too much, turned face when kissed on the cheek, and if cartoons would have been on the TV she would have prefeered Tom and Jerry to me. Dammmmmm, a bad selection! Its the worst feeling in the world, you wantd her so bad only to find she is a Corvette with a volkswagon motor, dammm dude! You know better than to go with the 10! Well my stiffness continued despite her attitude and lack of affection so I pounded her dog stlye so I didn't have to see her discontent with my 7 inside her. After we finished at 40 minutes into the hour I had paid she jumped and showered to remove my germs, heehhe. I skipped the shower and dressed, she was stunned to see I was dressed when she returned from the shower, I spoke not a word to her as she only mumbled 6 words to me the entire session, and they were all instructions as what not to do. As' I reached for the door she grew balls and said Porpina, as the madam looked on, I said in a loud voice, Propina, and then laughed loudly. The madam asked f I had a good session? She asked and I told her, I gave her a run down of my experience and she apoligized for the bad service I had recieved, I explained to her I normally propina in porportion to the service I get, bad service bad propina, no service no propina, and thats what she deserved, NO TIP! I still find that there is great sex with great looks but few and far between. Give me the average girl and service with a smile and I doulbe the tip, I don't pay for looks, I pay for service, Good Day and good mongering, advice; leave the tens alone, they prefer it I think.
Chipper
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Thank you
thank you
i am 44
i was mugged as a teenager in my high school stair case in suburbia long island.
i survived as a child and adolescent the chaos of pre-guliani nyc (unrep001hed) but those were some tense time walking through unfriendly towards anybody friendly big apple. mugging for sneakers (tenis), nike’s was just starting out. people mugging for designer glasses just because it was fad to wear designer frames (without the lenses); does anyone remember those days?
cut to 2000’s and i marry a colombian; usa gringo is warned do not go out alone, blah blah blah. at times the most beautiful in the entire world (yes my wife) makes me wish i would be encounter in my many walks through bello, medellin, and bogota alone but not even a threat.
point is america in this day is just as dangerous as medellin. check the local papers. illegals are desperate because ice and cbp are finally doing their jobs towards enforcing immigration law (yeah) and they are fighting for whatever work they can get. the dollar is dropping which will cause more to look towards other mean (like the clothing store incident). in general we are more of an egoistic society (world) that we do not care of the next guy.
enjoy medellin and the piesas you only vivo one!
[quote=cubanut]tom 33,
well here in the midwest in a peaceful chicago suburb we just had 5 women lose there lives when an asshole tried to rob a womens clothing store. the idiot decides to rob the store on an early sunday morning when there is no money in the register yet. flustered, he figures he can rob the 6 women in the store. so he duct tapes them and robs them. then apparently he felt he could not leave any witnesses who have seen his face so he proceeds to shoot each woman in the head. fortunately he misses one woman's head and hits her in the neck and hits no vitals.
the result is five innocent women killed for some petty cash and a few gold chains. the survivor has been able to give a good description of this bastard coward.
i hope they fry the fucker. oh yeah, i forgot they can't because this state does not believe in capitol punishment. worse he will get, if caught, is life without parole.
sorry to rant but it just gets me when people colombian or any other country as being less safe than the usa. oh sure you can stay away from dangerous places in foreign countries but just how safe are you in your own hometown?
cheers,
cubanut[/quote]
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Tom,
Let me ask you a question: ?
Granted Cubanut makes a point about random violence. However there is no comparison between the states and Colombia. At this time of the year in Wisconsin, you have to worry more about the Ice cracking under your feet, in your hut while Ice fishing than being robbed or kidnapped. Well maybe a month from now, isn't it something like. minus 40 with the wind chill factor now?
My question is why does it seem that the bystanders in Colombia do nothing about crime. I saw a guy bleeding from a stab wound in Cali in 2005. Nobody would help him, I at least tried to help him, just as the police were arriving. The Colombians just either stared for a brief moment and then walked away, or looked and did nothing. Is this the norm, or is it more a situation of life in Colombia?
You seem to know the colombian mindset better than most here, what is your take?
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[QUOTE=Justafool] ... POINT is America in this day is just as dangerous as Medellin. Check the local papers. Illegals are desperate because ICE and CBP are finally doing their jobs towards enforcing Immigration Law (YEAH) and they are fighting for whatever work they can get. The dollar is dropping which will cause more to look towards other mean (like the clothing store incident). In general we are more of an EGOISTIC society (world) that we do not care of the next guy ...
Enjoy Medellin and the PIESAS you only VIVO one![/QUOTE]Of course guys, there is crime everywhere on the planet.
We could all point out a crime we witnessed or read about in the US.
As Tom put it though, life is much cheaper in Colombia.
It's not as though you're going to get mugged every stroll you take in Colombia, but you should always have your radar up.
Have fun amigos!
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A hunting day with Jchipper.
I just realized that JChipper has been faster than I am and he has posted our mutual story with an interesting point of vue about 10s that I totally share.
My story is a little bit different, hope you’ll enjoy it too.
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JChipper is in town. We had decided by PM to go downtown to try some nice casas. I phoned him when I arrived to my hotel and we decided to meet close from the Oviedo mall 30 minutes later.
Once there, we jumped on a taxi and decided to try Estambol (Calle 49 43-68). When we arrived we had a presentation but they only had 4 girls, one doable. They had 2 other girls, but they were busy, in fact, we remained in the presentation room speaking about our favorite activity when one of the other girls arrived and she was pretty hot, but not available.
So, we decided to visit another place.
We fixed our choice on Kamasutra (Calle 53 42-74), one of JChipper’s favorite place in the past. We walk till there and had a nice presentation. I have to say that I frequently find girls as I like them (skinny with a tiny belt) at Kamasutra and once again, bingo! They had 3 nice skinny girls.
As I couldn’t decide myself we asked for another presentation of these 3 beauties. I refused one who had a bad attitude and select the smiling one.
Her name was Sophia, she really is a great looking girl and I was delighted that she had a kind of nice personality when I talked with her.
We agreed that I would eat her pussy and make pictures. She would behave well but everything would have to be covered.
We would do that for 60 minutes and it would cost me 40K.
JChipper didn’t want to go for an hour and was planning to go with another girl 30 minutes later for a half hour.
Sophia and I went to the room and got naked, she asked me to wash my hands with an antiseptic soap and we start our activities.
She covered me immediately and starts to blow. She was good at that even if the bloody condom wouldn’t let me feel much. Meanwhile, I was fingering her pussy. After a few minutes, I took her leg over my head and put her in 69 to start my favorite DATY. She reacted well and in no time she was very wet. After that she directly rode me reverse cowgirl and I could see her perfect ass going up and down, desperately empty. So I start to put a finger in that nice ass and she didn’t protest, good girl!
We then did Missionary, then Doggy then on our side.
Sophia was moaning quite nicely, at one moment, I realized that she was masturbating herself while I was doing her doggy style! She was enjoying it! She then kept on masturbating herself all the way. I think she came twice.
Later on, I start to explore her ass; she told me that this was an extra. How much? 70 K! I told her that 70K for what was left of the time compared to 40K for her regular service was not a good deal. But she remained on her price and I said forget it.
At one moment, someone knocked on the door, and Sophia told me that we have to hurry since it was the end of the time. I was a little bit surprised, but didn’t checked my watch (I always use my watch’s chronometer to check if I receive what I paid for), I took the condom out, and I asked Sophia to finish me with a HJ. She did it quite good and I was able to come, yelling and spreading milk everywhere. After a 2 minutes rest, I stood up and check my watch. 37 minutes had passed. I was kind of mad as I could have done this beauty easy 15 minutes more and then come.
We went to the (external) shower with hot water and then got dressed.
Meanwhile, I was talking with Sophia. She told me that her novio knows about her activity and that he would go with some other girls from time to time. That’s the way they put some spice on their couple!
When we left the room, Sebastian, the gay guy in charge of the casa was there and I asked him why did he knock at the door after only 30 minutes? He wanted to know if the room was occupied. I think that we were making enough noise, so he was probably desperate to free the room for another customer or he just made a mistake? Who knows?
JChiper was still there having a conversation with another guy who was also taking care of the casa. This guy was an attorney (or something like that) and he had common relations with Jchipper’s wife! World is really a small village.
As he was speaking with that guy he didn’t go with any girl.
We left Kamasutra and decided to visit some other place.
We walked till Venus (Calle 58 49-68), another favorite Jchipper’s casa.
The Mamasan received us well and we had the classical presentation.
One girl, a cute little thing was an ex Jchipper’s favourite and I have to say that she was very cute and according to what he told me, a real good performer.
But we decided to keep visiting casas and went off Venus.
We were very close to Lindas Chicas (o casa de piedras) (Calle 58 50A-54) in front of the Prado’s Metro’s station and I proposed to visit the place.
We entered this nice house, and the Mamasan presented us an amazing girl; I mean a perfect 10. Amazingly slim, one of the tiniest waist I’ve ever seen, a very nice face, amazing blue eyes. Katherine, I was having a heart attack. She was very much like Mary Luz, my favorite Lindas Chicas girl who was not there that day. Of course, I was not able to do her right now as I just had a session less than an hour ago, but I promised to go back for her. Shortly before leaving the place I could manage a quick talk with Katherine and explained her that I don’t feel much with condom and asked her if she could do something for me, and she said YES! Just like Mary Luz!
Funny thing is that Jchipper wanted to have his hair cut and his hairdresser is just under the Prado station so it was a 30 seconds walk. The lady was busy and couldn’t attend him, so we kept on walking.
I proposed to visit a near bye casa (Calle 61 53-78) where I had had my 2 Lorenas a few weeks ago. We took a taxi and he left us after only 3 blocks. The place had maybe 15 girls and 10 guys. All the guys were seated and having a drink, maybe speaking with girls, bust mostly, no one would go with them. We remained there 30 minutes and I had a talk with Lorena (the blond) and presented her to my friend. Of course, she is a little fleshy but she has very nice natural boobs and a charming smile. But then again we decide to leave and to visit some more places.
As I was real hungry, it was 1:30 pm, we stopped at a little shop and bought a small thing to eat. Jchipper wanted to visit the Avenue 33’s casas, so we took another taxi and went straight till Abydoss (Ave 33 64-198). We sat down and had our presentation. Jchipper didn’t like the girls and they had rise their prices quite a lot as it is now 104K against 84K 2 months ago. I which my incomes would grow that fast.
Nevertheless, due to high rotation, I knew none of these girls, and saw 2 doable.
We walked out from Abydoss and walk till the very close Samsara (Ave 33 65-09). Once again, we had the presentation and we saw the 4 available girls, including Jenifer. But none of these retained Jchipper’s attention. I made a small joke to the Mamasan who is a very fat young women, telling her that my friend was interested in her! She asked me to tell him that she was free at 10pm!
We escaped from Samsara and kept walking on Ave33 till Anfitrion (Ave33 76-93) but it only opens at night. We kept walking on Ave33 until we arrived at Blue room (Ave33 78-63). Once again, we had a presentation, but this time, the last girl attracted our attention as she was a real cute. She was small, smiling, a nice butt, a tiny waist, .
Jchipper had his blue pill and asked the girl (Sandra? ) to wait for him. We talk a little bit more and 15 minutes later, he went in his room with his beauty.
As I was still enable to go for another girl, I called Karen and fixed a meeting with her for tomorrow, then I made several professional calls, and finally played Sudoku waiting for my Buddy to come back. Suddenly, 2 Gringos arrive in the place. I mean it’s really not so frequent to see gringos in Medellin, but to meet them at a casa is even more rare!
When Jchipper came back, he was sad as his beauty turned to be a very mechanical performer. She was the kind of girl who says NO to everything. When we left, he said the Mamasan that he was not happy and she presented excuses to him. But the damage was done.
Now he was hungry (at last! ) and we decided to go back to El Poblado and to have an early supper at the Oviedo’s mall.
We were still looking to Oviedo’s beauties while we were eating, we just can’t have enough of this. We then walked till a close casino where Jchipper’s wife was playing. I met his wife and her sister + a friend he had there. After 30 minutes or so, we left the casino and I said thanks and good bye.
That had been a real nice day, I mean it’s really better to monger with someone nice rather than getting alone.
Hi J, I hope you enjoyed your day as I enjoyed mine, and maybe, in a not so far future, we could repeat it. Thanks
I have made a small movie from my meeting with Sophia:
2008-02-11_MdeSophiaKamasutraDoggy.avi
Size : 12,3Mo
Length : 1’08
Quality : Average due to difficult light conditions, and, as always in this kind of movie, I have great difficulties to maintain the camera while I’m doing the girl, and this time, I was fingering her also !!!
[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK291747b270ed3a275[/url]
Cheers.
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PS : If you have difficulties to see my movies, here is how it should go :
1) Click on the link above with steekr.com, this should open a window on your favorite navigator.
2) Download the file you wish to see on your PC
3) Once the file downloaded, double click it and it should open in your movie player.
I use the XVID codec to compress my movies. It's a very common codec and you should have no problem to see the movie. But if you don't have the codec, please go on google and try k-lite. Download the basic file and install it. That should fix it.
Thanks
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I am back!
I am back from Medellin! I am back to the good ole Los Angeles.
I will be posting my reviews and my reports on Fase II, San Diego Grill, Aestoprosis club, Loutrons and lejano Oriente soon!
I was there with my 2 horny buddies!
Hope all is well!
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]My question is why does it seem that the bystanders in Colombia do nothing about crime. I saw a guy bleeding from a stab wound in Cali in 2005. Nobody would help him, I at least tried to help him, just as the police were arriving. The Colombians just either stared for a brief moment and then walked away, or looked and did nothing. Is this the norm, or is it more a situation of life in Colombia?[/QUOTE]I think that this is the norm. Life is cheap.
What amazes me even more is that no Colombian seems to think that any law applies to him. There is a wide-spread lack of respect for law and order.
On the other hand, the anti-FARC demonstrations left me with some hope that Colombia is sick of this shit. And I have heard some very positive things said by university faculty members in Medellín concerning respect. Colombia may be moving in the right direction.
We have to realize that this is Colombia. No amount of anything we have experienced in any part of the US will prepare us for life here.
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The world has beauty but ....
But that does not just go for Colombia. With the economy doing so poorly in the US crime, muggings, jack, etc has been becoming more frequent, be alert always even in a vacation local but LIVE! Do not live to be mugged.
With economy doing poorly in the US that causes many other countries to follow and that means more crime in those areas.
Do no live as a Ostrich; LIVE but be alert to surroundings and watch your back.
If you live in fear you are not living at all!
All senses working together to monger and to survive.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Of course guys, there is crime everywhere on the planet.
We could all point out a crime we witnessed or read about in the US.
As Tom put it though, life is much cheaper in Colombia.
It's not as though you're going to get mugged every stroll you take in Colombia, but you should always have your radar up.
Have fun amigos![/QUOTE]
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TLN with Katherine of Lindas Chicas
As posted in the precedent story, I had discovered a 10 at Lindas Chicas (Calle 58 50A-54): Katherine.
After my long and nice day with JChipper, I was kind of tired and I start to answer some mails once in my room. Around 10pm, I was feeling great again and decided to call Lindas Chicas and see if Katherine was still there.
As always, they ask for a high price, but this time, I remained on my offer: I would pay 200 for a TLN and nothing more (except Taxis). After many difficulties, they accepted my offer and Katherine came towards me. I asked her to meet me at the Estrada’s mall entrance as my hotel (Leblon Suites) is so hard to find for taxis.
She arrived as scheduled and we walk till the Leblon Suites Hotel. The receptionist registered Katherine before we arrived after 11pm and told me that it was just for security reasons, I hope I won’t be charge for my visitor when I’ll see the bill.
I have already described Katherine in my precedent post but, please check the pictures and have a look. If slim girls are what you like, you’ll be amazed by this one.
I’m always afraid of 10s as I have had very bad experiences with them. I mean that my experience showed me that they behave like Queens to whom everything is due and are not friendly at all. Of course this is only my personal statistics and I always hope that the next 10 will be different, but.
When we enter the room, Katherine had her arms crossed on her stomach and she sat down crossing her legs. She didn’t say a word and didn’t take her jacket off pretending she was cold. Difficult to have a worse start.
I took her to the balcony to admire south Medellin by night, and she seems to enjoy it as she didn’t want to return to the room. I took her in my arms to start a relation but she would remain with her crossed arms. At that moment I was thinking of saying her to go back to her place and asked her if she didn’t want to start her service with me?
She said that we had plenty of time and that there was no reason to rush. I then tried to take some of her clothes and she let me put a hand on her stomach and open the button of her jean and start to explore her perfect body. I tried to convince her to have some sex on the balcony as I do with Karen, but she thought that it was just disgusting.
It was almost midnight and I had to go to work the other day so I told her so and she accepted to go back to the room. My room is at the 8th floor and there are no close neighbors, but she insisted that I should close the curtains to prevent somebody to watch us. I tried to make her understand that there was no one to watch us, and even if there would be someone, so what? But she was totally blocked on this so I closed the curtains, then she wanted me to close the window, and there I said NO!
We sat down on the sofa and I tried to engage some action but she was seated there without doing anything still totally closed to me. I had found no clue to start a relation with her and I was starting to get desperate. I invited her to start taking her clothes off and finally she agreed to do so. Before she would take them off, I asked for the first picture and suddenly she walk up and start to interact with me. She wanted to see every picture I’d take immediately and she had a strong opinion if the picture was good or not. It was funny as she knew that the picture was bad before she would even see it!
But slowly, I could make some nice shots of her. Once naked I was still amazed by her perfect body and couldn’t believe this was true.
We made some nude portraits and then, after almost one hour I could start doing her.
But she was not totally ready yet. She wanted to have a shower. That was Ok with me. Unfortunately, she likes very hot water (as I do) and the bathroom got totally wet and I couldn’t do a movie of our shower.
It was difficult, but I could find my way to Katherine, and we start to screw under the steam of the hot shower. She took my neck with her arms and I lifted her on my chest and we could start that way. It was really good and I was strongly feeling her.
She only accepted to go out of the shower once the hot water was finished.
We then went to the bed and at last, start our session.
As promised by her earlier in the day, everything went BB.
She told me she doesn’t like to blow and I told her that it was ok but she had to blow me either she likes it or not. She did it but even BB it was nothing out of this world. And that’s just normal, if you’re not good at something, you normally don’t like to do it.
We made several positions, and she moans a little bit, she rode me cow girl and she was very wet, then Missionary, Doggy, on our side, . As she was always looking for my pictures right away, I even didn’t try to make a movie with her.
After a good while I came quite good and as I’m used to I yell and spread my milk everywhere. Any other Colombian girl after that would stand up and go for some toilet paper to clean my mess. Katherine asked me to go and bring the toilet paper! As JChipper wrote: You can’t trust 10s! (LOL)
As I told her before that I knew Mary Luz (she is another girl working at the same place as Katherine. She also have an exceptional body, is very good in the sack, but no conversation at all.) and that I had been several time with her, she wanted to see the Mary Luz’s pictures.
I said ok and she could see them (they are not porn pictures except one and I didn’t show her the movie where Mary Luz says no to everything). After that, she wanted to make pictures of me using mycamera. Why not? That's funny. She made 3 good one that I'll keep with me.
Then she wanted to sleep. I tried to talk with her and asked her if she was preparing something to leave her job, but no, she just let things go and live day by day. I asked her about her novio, and yes she has one, he doesn’t know about her activity, she sees him regularly and explained me that she does thing with her novio she wouldn’t do with customers.
She also told me that she was born in Venezuela from Colombian, she also has live in Cucuta but arrive very young in Medellin (she definitely has a very strong Paisa way of speaking). She has left her parents at the age of 14! At that age, she went to sell clothes in a store.
After that small talk, we fell asleep.
I walk-up around 7 am (room is pretty noisy), and shortly got close from my beauty.
I took her in my arms and kissed her perfect body while I was caressing her.
She wakes-up slowly and took my hard dick, put some spit on it and drove me in heaven’s door.
I was in action again, but she was probably still asleep and she just let me do her.
I didn’t insist too long as I had a lot of things to do in the morning and came after maybe 15 minutes.
We went back to the shower and then got dressed, I paid her (200K + 10 for the taxi) and put her in a taxi before I go to some breakfast.
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So what could I say?
Another disappointing 10?
An average fucker?
No conversation at all?
I think I’ll remember her as one of the most beautiful girl I have ever seen, and forget that I did her.
Cheers.
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No your right I've seen a couple of blokes who have just been stabbed and a dude who have just been shot and everyone stands around here like it's normal. Even the cops look like they don't give a fuck.
[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]Tom,
Let me ask you a question: ?
Granted Cubanut makes a point about random violence. However there is no comparison between the states and Colombia. At this time of the year in Wisconsin, you have to worry more about the Ice cracking under your feet, in your hut while Ice fishing than being robbed or kidnapped. Well maybe a month from now, isn't it something like. minus 40 with the wind chill factor now?
My question is why does it seem that the bystanders in Colombia do nothing about crime. I saw a guy bleeding from a stab wound in Cali in 2005. Nobody would help him, I at least tried to help him, just as the police were arriving. The Colombians just either stared for a brief moment and then walked away, or looked and did nothing. Is this the norm, or is it more a situation of life in Colombia?
You seem to know the colombian mindset better than most here, what is your take?[/QUOTE]
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Tom33,
You should have a talk with one of my girlfriends in Monica, she studies to be a lawyer "left" at University Antoquia, she's a politicial leader in the student POLLO DEMOCRATICA. I think RICKER has met her "what pretty girl hasnt RICKER met"
Her sister was killed by the police at one of there protests 4 years ago.
She can give you a good rundown on what the other side thinks.
We at the Mansion made a mistake one day, we sent her as a tour leader with a group of guests to the Colombian Military Firing Range to look after our guests, anyway she looked after our guests but all afternoon was telling the army guys that they were a group of mother fuckers and that if they gave her one of the rifles that she would make amends for her sister.
WE dont send her on any Military Tours anymore !!!!
Regards mate.
Aussie Greg.
[QUOTE=Tom 33]I think that this is the norm. Life is cheap.
What amazes me even more is that no Colombian seems to think that any law applies to him. There is a wide-spread lack of respect for law and order.
On the other hand, the anti-FARC demonstrations left me with some hope that Colombia is sick of this shit. And I have heard some very positive things said by university faculty members in Medellín concerning respect. Colombia may be moving in the right direction.
We have to realize that this is Colombia. No amount of anything we have experienced in any part of the US will prepare us for life here.[/QUOTE]
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Fase II Report
Here is my first report of Medellin. I will be writing new reports as the day comes. So please be patient.
About me: I live in Los Angeles, in my 20's, very trendy, Asian, that have a very discriminating taste in women. I want my women to have big fake tits and big ass. Yeah, I'm one of the few men that love plastic women. LOL
I tend to go for the Colombian that have more of the European Spaniard look. (you know the ones you see shopping at Oviedo Mall) but it doesn't mean I won't pass up any hot dark skinned colombiana.
I first visited Fase II back in Sept 07, during my first Colombia trip! I never paid for sex before and the idea of it never crossed my mind. Admission was about 15K COP, and 1 drink minimum which is about 17K COP. It was a very nice place, in the middle was stage where the dancer strut their assets. There were tables all over the floor.
The women at FASE II are fucking HOT as hell! I was shock to see all these 8's 9's and 10's working at this place! I couldn't believe I could bang one of these girls for 150K COP ($75 USD) My jaws drop, I was a little kid in a candy store! They have all kinds of women, light skinned, afro colombian, big fake tits, big asses, you name it. They are there!
Strip clubs in LA, the girls come up to you and ask for dance etc. But here in Fase II, the girls rarely approaches you unless she wants a tip for her stage dance. I see girls sitting at the tables for several hours doing nothing. If you see a girl that you like. You have approach them and talk to them!
Can someone tell me why? Don't these girls want to make money?
I met this girl name Cassandra. She had banging body. A body like those Cali models (andrea rincon, Lorena Orozco) go ahead and google them! =) it was 150K. Took her back to the room and took care of business. The rooms are clean, with a queen size bed, shower stall, couch, toilet. It had a tropical tiki interior decoration. Very clean and classy!
Pros= hot women, reasonable price, clean and classy rooms!
Cons= I can't think of any. Unless your girl sucks in bed. LOL
Hope this helps and feel free to ask any questions.
Next post. San Deigo Grill.
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Hotel location
Hello everyone,
Does anyone know about Hotel Intercontinental. Is it good to stay there? Are they chicka friendly? And is it close to action (piasa? Working girls? ) how is the transportation? Or Four Points hotel?
Thanks guys
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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Tom33,
You should have a talk with one of my girlfriends in Monica, she studies to be a lawyer "left" at University Antoquia, she's a politicial leader in the student POLLO DEMOCRATICA. I think RICKER has met her "what pretty girl hasnt RICKER met"
Her sister was killed by the police at one of there protests 4 years ago.
She can give you a good rundown on what the other side thinks.
We at the Mansion made a mistake one day, we sent her as a tour leader with a group of guests to the Colombian Military Firing Range to look after our guests, anyway she looked after our guests but all afternoon was telling the army guys that they were a group of mother fuckers and that if they gave her one of the rifles that she would make amends for her sister.
WE dont send her on any Military Tours anymore !!!!
Regards mate.
Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE]Oh yes, there are rabid lefties in Colombia. I go out of my way to avoid any political discussions here. And I know relatively little about politics here anyway.
I have yet to visit the U de A campus.
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[QUOTE=Jergens007]Pros= hot women, reasonable price, clean and classy rooms!
Cons= I can't think of any. Unless your girl sucks in bed. LOL
Hope this helps and feel free to ask any questions.
Next post. San Deigo Grill.[/quote]Yes, Fase II girls are plastikos and they look great. But their attitudes suck - worst in Medellin. Being in the candy store I took girls on 2 ocassions to my room: the first was a big-titted girl and the other was a 2-on-1 take out. THe first experience was ok but the 2nd one sucked bad. I mean real bad.
The girls were more interested in raiding the mini bar than in spending time with me. Fase II is good to take in the sights but only a few rare gems in my experience. I also asked veterans such as Medellin Bob who is the said expert on such matters.
And also the Fase II girls are more expensive than any of the casas or San Diego etc.
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Fase II
Fase Dos is good as long as you know what you're getting into.
Like Jergens said, for the most part, the girls are HOT. But they tend to have stink attitudes. I have no experience with take-out, but on-premises P4p is decent if you're willing to pay the price for the convenience. Don't expect too much GFE from these girls. But if you want a quick bang with a Penthouse model-quality girl, it's not bad.
I find that the girls from Show San Diego are much more friendly and more wiling to do things like hang out with you at a discoteca. Much better attitudes. YMMV
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Karen Photos
I find these in another forum, and Im sure they post those without permission. So, watch out people. Some people are trying to ruin it for everybody.
[url]http://www.denunciando.com/showthread.php?t=36708[/url]
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Perpetual BB and the carefree
[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]As posted in the precedent story, I had discovered a 10 at Lindas Chicas (Calle 58 50A-54): Katherine.
We then went to the bed and at last, start our session.
As promised by her earlier in the day, everything went BB.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]I have to say Col Bog you have quite a life, and from one of your previous posts, your married to boot. Curious though, with the rampant BB sessions (of which I can see how a few can happen do to the little head thinking), I have to ask how do you deal with the back of the mind thing concering HIV and friends? I would be panicking by now, as your bb mongering is almost unreal. Do you test regularly.
Would it be out of order think of the consequences for all these young girls if something were awry? I can see how one can say fuck it about oneself, and just live, but what about the other end.
Nonetheless, I envy your bevy of honeys that have gone to the hive. Keep up the great posts, and maybe be careful, as I am sure bio hazard's are just as dangerous as narco-terroists down there.
Cheers,
Hummer
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[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]I have to say Col Bog you have quite a life, and from one of your previous posts, your married to boot. Curious though, with the rampant BB sessions (of which I can see how a few can happen do to the little head thinking), I have to ask how do you deal with the back of the mind thing concering HIV and friends? I would be panicking by now, as your bb mongering is almost unreal. Do you test regularly.[/QUOTE]It is amazing to me how many chicas agree to BB. They must go BB a lot with regular colombians down there so it is not a stretch for them.
I would think Blog would have to have contracted gonorea or clamidia in one of his encounters. HIV is tough to get. Herpes? That said I hate condoms. But use them.
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San Diego Grill Report
On Thursday night, Me and my buddies went to La Kasa Nightclub. Tons of hot trendy broad there! But alot of dudes!
Afterwards we went to San Diego Grill. Its very close to Fase II. The outside looks kinda rundown. We went inside. Its not really a classy place compare to Fase II. The tables and chairs were cheap. The stage was in the middle.
The girls. I noticed alot of the girls were young looking. Alot of black chicks as well! So if you are into the whole " teen" "18 year old look" and black girls. This is the place for you. It was pretty cheap. My friend took 1 chica to the back and took care of business. I think he spent about 60-70 COP. Don't quite remember. I didn't have sex, there wasnt any stunning 10's and dime pieces in that place.
Pros= prices of the ladies are cheap if you like black chicks. This is the place to be. Most of the girls are black, and the other girls are very young looking.
Cons=dirty, rundown strip club.
Hope this helps. Next review. Loutons!
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Black Diamonds?
[QUOTE=Jergens007]Afterwards we went to San Diego Grill. Its very close to Fase II. The outside looks kinda rundown.
The girls. I noticed alot of the girls were young looking. Alot of black chicks as well! So if you are into the whole " teen" "18 year old look" and black girls. This is the place for you.
Pros= prices of the ladies are cheap if you like black chicks. This is the place to be. Most of the girls are black, and the other girls are very young looking.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jergens,
But are the girls the real type of black chicks, with the african decent look, and that booty that is unmistakable? Or are they just colombians with black pigmentation? I hope it is the former.
Cheers,
Hummer
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[QUOTE=Jergens007]Pros= prices of the ladies are cheap if you like black chicks. This is the place to be. Most of the girls are black, and the other girls are very young looking.
Cons=dirty, rundown strip club. [/QUOTE]This has never been my experience in San Diego. I like spinners, light-skinned Colombianas, with great attitudes, many of which are to be found in San Diego.
I hardly see any black Colombianas working throughout Medellin, including the mayorista area. Yes, there are black Colombianas to be found if that is what you are looking for, but hardly the majority.
Also, aren't all strip clubs run down joints for the most part? I'm not a strip club type of guy, don't partake in the US, but do love the whole ambiance in San Diego as well as Fase Dos.
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Hotel Location - @ Yaylalar
@ Yaylalar
Hotel Intercontinental probably is the best in MDE. Stayed there a few times during the last years, now it is said to be fully renovated. If it meets your budget the only disadvantage is the location. You always need a taxi to get there, as it is in the upper part of El Poblado. Difficult to smuggle in girls, however, you can register them and that causes no problem.
In January I tried Hotel Estelar Poblado Alejandría, well located 5-7 min walking distance from CC Oviedo, just a bit upwards. It is quite new, more economic than Estelar Poblado Plaza, Dann Carlton or Interconti but still ok. Service was ok and they were chica friendly, too. Jacuzzi available on the terrasse on the upper floor with a great view on the town. Comparable with the Four Points close to CC Oviedo. Personally I liked more the Estelar Poblado Alejandría.
If you stay a week at least I recommend renting an apartment in El Poblado.
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HIV is hard for a male to get fucking a chick BB. Warts and Herpes on the other hand, are very, very easy to get. Neither will do a man serious harm, other than being a nuisance.
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[QUOTE=MS Clive] ... I also asked veterans such as Medellin Bob who is the said expert on such matters ...
[/QUOTE]The funny thing is, Medellin Bob, good friend of mine, is actually banned from the place ... Face Dos :)
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Col Bog 1,
Nice fotos amigo. She's nice looking.
I almost always give a chica a test run in-house before inviting her over and paying a TLN fee.
Find out early if she's a dud or not.
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[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]Thanks Jergens,
But are the girls the real type of black chicks, with the african decent look, and that booty that is unmistakable? Or are they just colombians with black pigmentation? I hope it is the former.
Cheers,
Hummer[/QUOTE]Hummer Bird,
The girls were black, african decent look. Yes. They all have big booties! But they had light skinned colombians and dark skinned colombians. But that night. There were mostly black chicks. This was a Thursday night! So maybe the weekends they have more variety.
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[QUOTE=Traylor Park]This has never been my experience in San Diego. I like spinners, light-skinned Colombianas, with great attitudes, many of which are to be found in San Diego.
I hardly see any black Colombianas working throughout Medellin, including the mayorista area. Yes, there are black Colombianas to be found if that is what you are looking for, but hardly the majority.
Also, aren't all strip clubs run down joints for the most part? I'm not a strip club type of guy, don't partake in the US, but do love the whole ambiance in San Diego as well as Fase Dos.[/QUOTE]Traylor Park,
That was a Thursday night I was at San Deigo Grill. That night it seem like there were mostly black chicks and 35% of the customers were black dudes. When was the last time you were there? Maybe the scene has changed since you been there? My friend loves black chicks, so we end up staying there. I thought san deigo interior was very run down compare to Fase Dos.
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[QUOTE=Ricker]The funny thing is, Medellin Bob, good friend of mine, is actually banned from the place ... Face Dos :)[/QUOTE]Wow, that's hilarious! I wonder what he did. He does not seem to be a pervert. Ha ha. Imagine being banned from a strip club.
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Thailand, Cambodia And Colombia?
Warriors come out and play eee a.
Can any supreme mongers comment as to whether or not Thailand and Cambodia outweigh the Colombian scene overall for mongering. This should include the ease, cost and beauties. I have experienced Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam, and can say forget V for mongering unless your Trump. What about the beach beauty in Colombia, any comparisons to Thai or Cam?
Thanks,
Hummer
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[QUOTE=Combo]HIV is hard for a male to get fucking a chick BB.[/quote]Are you kidding me.
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For Duster Egon
[QUOTE=Duster Egon]I find these in another forum, and Im sure they post those without permission. So, watch out people. Some people are trying to ruin it for everybody.
[url]http://www.denunciando.com/showthread.php?t=36708[/url][/QUOTE]Hi Duster.
I've just registered on that site and had a quick view.
Yes, this guy (Nick = cayzedo) is posting in this site pictures taken from other boards.
I have recognized several pictures I took.
This said, this site look like very small.
It has a over 18 years disclaimer.
Now I wonder what to do :
1) Send a PM to that guy telling him I'd appreciate him not to steal my pictures and post them on a colombian forum.
2) Write a post on that forum explaining that this guy is publishing these pictures with no right.
3) Write to the forum's admin and protest on the picture's robbery.
4) Ignore it.
To say the truth, I think option 4 may be the best.
Option 1 & 2 may start a flame war.
Option 3 could be good if the admin is ok but who knows ?
In general, these pictures are published on Internet and this makes them public.
Been public doesn't mean that you can use them at your will.
Of course, I won't suit this forum for publishing my pictures without my agreement.
I have checked if cayzedo was a known Nick on ISG but no, it isn't.
But, after all, to steal these pictures he has to come here, so :
CAYZEDO, I hope you'll read this and react well, stopping to steal my pictures to publish them without my permission on another board.
I don't care for my pictures to be reposted as long as it is not a colombian site or a spanish site as I don't want these girls to be in danger of beeing recognized by their neighbours.
One other thing I want, is to know where my pictures are published.
This is not the first time I realize that my pictures are used without my permission.
CAYCEDO, I would strongly appreciate an answer here or by PM.
Thanks for your understanding.
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For Ricker
[QUOTE=Ricker]Col Bog 1,
Nice fotos amigo. She's nice looking.
I almost always give a chica a test run in-house before inviting her over and paying a TLN fee.
Find out early if she's a dud or not.[/QUOTE]Hi Ricker.
Thanks for your good comments.
This girl (Kathrine) comes from Lindas Chicas.
If you want to do her on site, it will cost you 200K for 3 hours (100K for the girl + 70K for the room and 30K for 2 drinks).
As it was Monday, I was able to get the same fee for a TLN at my hotel!
Positive point is the early morning shot.
Negative point is that she had no conversation.
But you're right, when the price is really different, I also want to see first in-house.
One of the trick I use now, is telling them that to "see" me again, it will have to be BB.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Jergens007]Traylor Park,
That was a Thursday night I was at San Deigo Grill. That night it seem like there were mostly black chicks and 35% of the customers were black dudes. When was the last time you were there? Maybe the scene has changed since you been there? My friend loves black chicks, so we end up staying there. I thought san deigo interior was very run down compare to Fase Dos.[/QUOTE]That's funny talking about how run down San Diego seems to you.
You should have seen it before the re-modeling several years back. I actually miss it when it was smaller and less like a US titty bar, and when there were lots of chicas hanging around outside the place.
I once had time with a chica there for nothing more than an IOU :)
Have fun!
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[QUOTE=MS Clive]Wow, that's hilarious! I wonder what he did. He does not seem to be a pervert. Ha ha. Imagine being banned from a strip club.[/QUOTE]Had more to do with problems with the owner, and the girls ratting out that they were working out of the Mansion at times also. Goes back to several years ago.
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Thailand is number 1 in my opinion for sheer quantity and prices and the beaches are far superior to Colombian beaches IMO.
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[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]Thanks Jergens,
But are the girls the real type of black chicks, with the african decent look, and that booty that is unmistakable? Or are they just colombians with black pigmentation? I hope it is the former.
Cheers,
Hummer[/QUOTE]I am in Medellin right now and I have a beautiful Afro-Colombiana sleeping in my bed right now.
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Loutrons Report
Hey all!
Here is my Loutrons report.
A little about me, so you can understand what I look for: I live in Los Angeles, in my 20's, very trendy, Asian, I have a very discriminating taste in women.
I will not pay $20 to have sex with an ugly or average girl.
I will only pay for sex if the girl is model material, 10's, hot girls you see with their louis vuitton bags in LA, miami, vegas nightclubs. I want my women to have big fake tits and big ass. Yeah, I'm one of the few men that love plastic women. LOL you get the idea!
I tend to go for the Colombian that have more of the European Spaniard look. (you know the ones you see shopping at Oviedo Mall) but it doesn't mean I won't pass up any hot dark skinned colombiana.
Me and my buddies are staying in El Poblado, We had lunch at El Tosoro Mall. We decided to go to Loutrons to check this massage parlor out. I didn't get to check this place out during my first visit in Medellin.
It was very close to El Tosoro mall, about 3 miles, We arrived to the location, the taxi driver rang the door bell and the guards opened the gate. Both of them had 2 rottweilers. The taxi drives into the driveway.
It was a big ass Mansion. Nice and huge! Just presences reminded me a Colombian druglords Villa. We got out of the taxi, these 2 beautiful Madames greeted us. Both of them were sooooooo hot! They were dress in jeans and nice tight top! Both of them have big ass and big tits. One of their names was Gloria. At first, I was hoping they were availabe! Ha ha ha.
They took us the bar, we had a drink and than came the show. The beautiful women. One by one they came into the bar, took off their robe and show off the assets. All of the women were in shape and hot! One attracted my attention her name was Sofia. Tanned, big ass, and big tits. I wanted her! And my buddy wanted this cute petite black girl.
Me and sofia went to the rooms, As soon as the door closed, I grabbed her and started to make out with her. We strip each other took a shower together, had great sex, massage each other and took another shower. Great time! I spent 160K COP.
My buddy. Spent 4 hours at Loutrons with the same girl! Crazy bastard. We waited for him, we played pool, took a nap on the couch and socialized with other customers. He finally came out with a fat smile on his face. He had a great time!
Pros= beautiful, upscale Mansion, friendly and hot ass madames, and the staff was very beautiful.
Cons= nothing. Except waiting for my friend that was having sex for 4 hours with this lady.
**** Photos****
I didn't have my camera, man. I wish I could have showed you Sofia. She was hot.
But my buddy took a picture of the pool table of Loutrons with our other friends. I had to white out his face!
And the cute black girl he had sex with for 4 hours.
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[QUOTE=Jergens007]I will not pay $20 to have sex with an ugly or average girl.[/QUOTE]But would you pay $20 dollars to be with a beauty? Or does the chocha have to be expensive to be good? :)
Thanks for the reports! Sounds like you're having fun.
I apprerciate your style. Seems like you enjoy the ritz, where I dig finding the sweet beauty that isn't costing me $85 an hour.
Enjoy
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[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]Warriors come out and play eee a.
Can any supreme mongers comment as to whether or not Thailand and Cambodia outweigh the Colombian scene overall for mongering. This should include the ease, cost and beauties. I have experienced Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam, and can say forget V for mongering unless your Trump. What about the beach beauty in Colombia, any comparisons to Thai or Cam?
Thanks,
Hummer[/QUOTE]You experienced LOS, Cambodia and V. Why don't you try Indonesia? Jakarta offers much more pussy and it's cheaper than Colombia. The beaches in Bali are superb.
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colombian value
[QUOTE=Menteng]You experienced LOS, Cambodia and V. Why don't you try Indonesia? Jakarta offers much more pussy and it's cheaper than Colombia. The beaches in Bali are superb.[/QUOTE]Thanks Menteng,
I have traveled Indonesia, and did not find a lot of P4P when I was there. I do not know how welcome US citizens wo0udl be in a primarily Muslim culture.
I am used to 10-15 hotels that are not filled with rats or lice. I found that in Asia, but I have yet to see this for Colombia, unless the none of the mongers here are more budget oriented. I am also interested in nice beach, and from this forum it sounds like Cartegena beach sucks. Does anybody else care about the enviornment that they monger in?
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[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]Hi Ricker.
Thanks for your good comments.
This girl (Kathrine) comes from Lindas Chicas.
If you want to do her on site, it will cost you 200K for 3 hours (100K for the girl + 70K for the room and 30K for 2 drinks).
As it was Monday, I was able to get the same fee for a TLN at my hotel!
Positive point is the early morning shot.
Negative point is that she had no conversation.
But you're right, when the price is really different, I also want to see first in-house.
One of the trick I use now, is telling them that to "see" me again, it will have to be BB.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Sounds good amigo.
When I meet a chica in a casa and the session goes well and we have energy together, I usually get her phone number and tell her I'd like to meet her after work for a bite to eat, dance, music, laughter, etc.
I always treat them like a normal chica when we meet up afterwards. Treat them like a princess, bring a little gift (maybe a small box of chocolates. Cost less than a dollar), talk about their lives, kids, etc. Make them smile and laugh.
I don't treat the encounter like business at all.
Almost always this chica will treat you like her long lost boyfriend and shower you with love and affection and sex.
I don't discuss payment with her. It's a date. Sometimes I help her out with some pesos, sometimes not, sometimes they won't accept the money. I always pay for their taxis. Claro.
I don't want a TLN with a chica if she's a total pro, hard core, peso seeking, no personality chica, no matter how hot she may be.
I wouldn't have even asked her out to begin with. They are a waste of time. A short time encounter in the casa / club is fine for that type of chica.
We all have our own strategies and techniques. That's just the way I approach it.
Good luck amigo!
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Your Strategy
[QUOTE=Ricker]Sounds good amigo.
When I meet a chica in a casa and the session goes well and we have energy together, I usually get her phone number and tell her I'd like to meet her after work for a bite to eat, dance, music, laughter, etc.
I always treat them like a normal chica when we meet up afterwards. Treat them like a princess, bring a little gift (maybe a small box of chocolates. Cost less than a dollar), talk about their lives, kids, etc. Make them smile and laugh.
I don't treat the encounter like business at all.
Almost always this chica will treat you like her long lost boyfriend and shower you with love and affection and sex.
I don't discuss payment with her. It's a date. Sometimes I help her out with some pesos, sometimes not, sometimes they won't accept the money. I always pay for their taxis. Claro.
I don't want a TLN with a chica if she's a total pro, hard core, peso seeking, no personality chica, no matter how hot she may be.
I wouldn't have even asked her out to begin with. They are a waste of time. A short time encounter in the casa / club is fine for that type of chica.
We all have our own strategies and techniques. That's just the way I approach it.
Good luck amigo![/QUOTE]Your approach is the same as mine. I have found it to be be excellent and have had amazing results. Both in Colombia as well as Brasil. Amazing what things can happen when one treats them like a lady. Hope others take Rickers advice to heart. Laters!
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[QUOTE=Ricker]Sounds good amigo.
When I meet a chica in a casa and the session goes well and we have energy together, I usually get her phone number and tell her I'd like to meet her after work for a bite to eat, dance, music, laughter, etc.
I always treat them like a normal chica when we meet up afterwards. Treat them like a princess, bring a little gift (maybe a small box of chocolates. Cost less than a dollar), talk about their lives, kids, etc. Make them smile and laugh.
I don't treat the encounter like business at all.
Almost always this chica will treat you like her long lost boyfriend and shower you with love and affection and sex.
I don't discuss payment with her. It's a date. Sometimes I help her out with some pesos, sometimes not, sometimes they won't accept the money. I always pay for their taxis. Claro.
I don't want a TLN with a chica if she's a total pro, hard core, peso seeking, no personality chica, no matter how hot she may be.
I wouldn't have even asked her out to begin with. They are a waste of time. A short time encounter in the casa / club is fine for that type of chica.
We all have our own strategies and techniques. That's just the way I approach it.
Good luck amigo![/QUOTE]Excellent approach Ricker. I am in MDE right now on my third trip and I know that getting a chica laughing and smiling is the key to a great experience even if your Spanish speaking sucks. If she aint smiling or gives some fake ass smile. Leave her alone, period.
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[QUOTE=BlackSultan]Excellent approach Ricker. I am in MDE right now on my third trip and I know that getting a chica laughing and smiling is the key to a great experience even if you Spanish speaking sucks. If she aint smiling or gives some fake ass smile. Leave her alone, period.[/QUOTE]
you suck.... lol am in London and the cheapest thing I have seen is 280 an hour.... am off to amsterdam Thursday so will have fun
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[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]Thanks Menteng,
I have traveled Indonesia, and did not find a lot of P4P when I was there. I do not know how welcome US citizens wo0udl be in a primarily Muslim culture.[/QUOTE]You must have been in the wrong place at the wrong time! US citizens, like every other citizens, are welcome there. Too many ISG members from the US to mention who visit that country regularly.
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Greetings Guys,
With all due respect, why are you discussing Indonesia in the Colombia Forum, as opposed to, let's say, the Indonesia Forum?
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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[QUOTE=Ricker]But would you pay $20 dollars to be with a beauty? Or does the chocha have to be expensive to be good? :)
Thanks for the reports! Sounds like you're having fun.
I apprerciate your style. Seems like you enjoy the ritz, where I dig finding the sweet beauty that isn't costing me $85 an hour.
Enjoy[/QUOTE]Ha ha Ha. I meant that I wouldn't even pay $20. 00 to have sex with an ugly or average girl.
I wouldn't mind paying an expensive chica just as long as she looks good! You get my idea.
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Apoteosis Club Report
Hey All here is my report of APOTEOSIS CLUB but first.....
A little about me, so you can understand what I look for: I live in Los Angeles, in my 20's, very trendy, Asian, I have a very discriminating taste in women.
I will not pay $20 to have sex with an ugly or average girl.
I will only pay for sex if the girl is model material, 10's, hot girls you see with their louis vuitton bags in LA, miami, vegas nightclubs. I want my women to have big fake tits and big ass. Yeah, I'm one of the few men that love plastic women. LOL you get the idea!
I tend to go for the Colombian that have more of the European Spaniard look. (you know the ones you see shopping at Oviedo Mall) but it doesn't mean I won't pass up any hot dark skinned colombiana.
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After leaving Palmitas, my 2 friends were horny as hell and wanted to go to a strip club. We didn't want to do Fase Dos again. So I had my scooby Medellin guide in my pocket and said. We should check out Apoteosis club:
Our taxi drove to the location, it was an area where there is nothing open. I have no clue where we were. I was still kinda drunk. From the outside, It looks like a hole in the wall bar you see in the US. I think we paid about 10K COP to get in.
It was a small place, a little bit better looking than san deigo grill, there is a stage in the middle of the place, it also have shower in the stage as well.
I was so disappointed with the quality of the girls! I didn't see anyone I was willing to bang, so yes. I didn't have sex that night. Ha ha ha. Almost every girl approach me try to talk to me and ask me to go back to the room for some " fuckie" fuckie" LOL.
One of my buddies Jeff (not his real name). Who hasnt got laid in a long time till our Medellin trip, went back with some Panamanian broad. She was a little bit on the chunky side. But I guess he didn't care!
So me and my other friend Walter (not his real name) just chill, bullshit with the ladies and drank our beers, did some coke in the bathroom.
Right before closing time, jeff and his lady came back, everyone had to leave. So my friend walter grabbed some skinny colombian broad and my friend Jeff who just got laid. Grabbed another girl who is some older broad with big tits. 2 girls in one night for jeff! What a trooper! It was about 60-75k COP per chica for 1 hour.
They took them back to the room upstairs of the club. I was waiting for them while smoking weed with the bouncer! I don't know what the rooms look like. But I heard it dirty and one my friends just fucked a girl with in a room with only a mattress on the ground.
After they came out. They were happy. We took the taxi and went our apt in el poblado.
Pros= nice waiters, good service, girls are cheap, cheap alcohol, decent looking spot.
Cons=According to my friends, the rooms were filthy and nasty, none of the girls at this place met any of my standards in terms of beauty.
Next report. My date at Mangos that turned sour. LOL
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Ya Jergens,
I know of that strip club, I went there about 1year ago, no idea what the name of the place is, it was in a poor area of Medellin, but I enjoy the club, the girls I found were friendly, and the drinks were very good prices no gringo rip off prices. I myself did a girl in one of the rooms, the room was alittle dark and dirty, but the girl was a great fuck and was able to go into all sorts of crazy bendy positions 'great'.
I would not go there in my own, becouse of the area the club is in, I would go with 3 or 4 guys, I went with Cubanut and a couple of his friends.
Coming back to Medellin in 2weeks time 'bring it on'
Superboy
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I have been to this place many times and it is really hit and miss on quality. I did the Nicole, now at San diego there. I did a couple of others in the past. The rooms are dirty, but about the same as Mayorista and Maracaibo.
Jergins, you are probably going to stay at Fase Dos. You could try Torre Show, but again hit and mis, a cleaner place thou.
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Barra Ejecutiva in Centro
I went there tonight and they had some bad bitches in there. I know many of the guys on the board hit up Fase Dos and San Diego Show, but dont sleep on this strip club. I even had hit some pussy up in there.
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Apoteosis
Apoteosis is located at San Juan, between la 74 and la 75. See report #2365 in this thread.
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[QUOTE=Menteng]Apoteosis is located at San Juan, between la 74 and la 75. See report #2365 in this thread.[/QUOTE]That is in the heart of Laureles. It's a very safe area. From San Juan to the Estadio Metro Station on la 70 is a busy club area. No strip clubs, though.
My apartment is within walking distance, but I have never been in Apoteosis. Casandra's is around 5 blocks away and quite satisfactory. I think that there is more stuff over by the metro stop.
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Mansion or Hotel for Local Ladies
I am debating attempting to get a room at the mansion or just staying at hotel. How famous, (or should I say imfamous), is the mansion in Medellin to the locals? It sounds like the place to stay for P4P in Medellin. However, If I met some non pro local ladies in town, on amigos, or elsewhere, and they discover I am staying at the mansion, would they immediately assume I am in town for P4P and mongering or would they just think it is was one of many nice places to stay in the city? Is the mansion extremely well known to the local talent as a place where mongers stay for P4P or is the Mansion somewhat of a mystery to the local ladies outside of the P4P mongering scene?
If I picked up some local lady who had never heard of the mansion and took her back to the Mansion with me, when we entered the place, would she immediately know what kind of place it is by the decor and the activities going on in plain view, or is the decor and common areas of the place discreet enough to hide the obvious mongering intent of myself, and probably most of the other guests staying there?
Just curious if staying at the mansion would eliminate all possibilities of picking up non pro local ladies and restrict me to the P4P scene, which is my primary goal anyway, but a local or two from a mall or night club might be a nice change if it is a possibility.
Thanks for any insight you might care to provide.
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Question on Freelance bars
Hello,
Besides the Casas, and strip bars, Are ther any freelance bars in MED?
Como, or like, LDV, Newport, But for me, I love the freelance bars. It feels like it's between Non-Pro and full Pro mongering.
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Pussy Luver]I am debating attempting to get a room at the mansion or just staying at hotel. How famous, (or should I say imfamous), is the mansion in Medellin to the locals? It sounds like the place to stay for P4P in Medellin. However, If I met some non pro local ladies in town, on amigos, or elsewhere, and they discover I am staying at the mansion, would they immediately assume I am in town for P4P and mongering or would they just think it is was one of many nice places to stay in the city? Is the mansion extremely well known to the local talent as a place where mongers stay for P4P or is the Mansion somewhat of a mystery to the local ladies outside of the P4P mongering scene?
If I picked up some local lady who had never heard of the mansion and took her back to the Mansion with me, when we entered the place, would she immediately know what kind of place it is by the decor and the activities going on in plain view, or is the decor and common areas of the place discreet enough to hide the obvious mongering intent of myself, and probably most of the other guests staying there?
Just curious if staying at the mansion would eliminate all possibilities of picking up non pro local ladies and restrict me to the P4P scene, which is my primary goal anyway, but a local or two from a mall or night club might be a nice change if it is a possibility.
Thanks for any insight you might care to provide.[/QUOTE]PL,
The MM is fairly notorious for what goes on there. In the event that you were to get friendly w/ a sweet Paisita non pro who was not knowledgable about the MM you would still have to be concerned about the hardpartying mongers who call la mansion their "home away from home".
I would recommend other accomadations if you have any plans to woo non pros on your trip. If you can speak OK Spanish and have any game at all there are numerous interested and friendly chicas once you get your as out of Poblado. In El Poblado you have many beautiful chicas but you also have the "Princessa" attitude.
IMHO, if you can get by with your Espanol and do not require alot of handholding than just rent a room in a private apt. or get a room in the E.C. or Vips. Many of the guests at the MM will show little courtesy or respect for any chica you dare to bring there. This is regardless of whether or not she is pro or non pro.
Rainman3
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If I picked up some local lady who had never heard of the mansion and took her back to the Mansion with me, when we entered the place, would she immediately know what kind of place it is by the decor and the activities going on in plain view, or is the decor and common areas of the place discreet enough to hide the obvious mongering intent of myself, and probably most of the other guests staying there?
Just curious if staying at the mansion would eliminate all possibilities of picking up non pro local ladies and restrict me to the P4P scene, which is my primary goal anyway, but a local or two from a mall or night club might be a nice change if it is a possibility.
IMO it would be hard to cover up or explain away the "goings on" at the Mansion to a local but at El Castillo it's possible. I'd just tell em it's a slightly upscale pension with full services that you heard about through your network.
Schwmm
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[QUOTE=Pussy Luver]I am debating attempting to get a room at the mansion or just staying at hotel. How famous, (or should I say imfamous), is the mansion in Medellin to the locals? It sounds like the place to stay for P4P in Medellin. However, If I met some non pro local ladies in town, on amigos, or elsewhere, and they discover I am staying at the mansion, would they immediately assume I am in town for P4P and mongering or would they just think it is was one of many nice places to stay in the city? Is the mansion extremely well known to the local talent as a place where mongers stay for P4P or is the Mansion somewhat of a mystery to the local ladies outside of the P4P mongering scene?
If I picked up some local lady who had never heard of the mansion and took her back to the Mansion with me, when we entered the place, would she immediately know what kind of place it is by the decor and the activities going on in plain view, or is the decor and common areas of the place discreet enough to hide the obvious mongering intent of myself, and probably most of the other guests staying there?
Just curious if staying at the mansion would eliminate all possibilities of picking up non pro local ladies and restrict me to the P4P scene, which is my primary goal anyway, but a local or two from a mall or night club might be a nice change if it is a possibility.
Thanks for any insight you might care to provide.[/QUOTE]I agree with the Rainman's advice on this subject, however, a stay at the CASTILLO, the sister hotel of the Mansion is much more subtle and layed back.
Of course you could get along fine staying at a private apartment or another hotel, especially if you speak espanol, but staying at a place like the CASTILLO or VIP, etc gives a first time visitor a lot of good info and contacts.
Buena suerte amigo!
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Not Suitable for Non-pros
I'm not too sure that it would be a very good idea to take a non-pro to El Castillo, either. There was a guy there who would wait outside of my room while I sessioned and would proposition my chica as soon I opened the door.
I have never been the jealous type who would try to keep a girl for myself, but he was way over the top. We about came to blows before he understood that he was going to have to give me a little more breathing room than that!
DB
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[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]I'm not too sure that it would be a very good idea to take a non-pro to El Castillo, either. There was a guy there who would wait outside of my room while I sessioned and would proposition my chica as soon I opened the door.
I have never been the jealous type who would try to keep a girl for myself, but he was way over the top. We about came to blows before he understood that he was going to have to give me a little more breathing room than that!
DB[/QUOTE]Hey DB ... that dude was just a wierdo.
Normally the Castillo is pretty tranquilo, especially if you introduced your girl as your girlfriend.
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Good Topic!
What are the benefits of staying at the Mansion or VIP?
What is the Purpose?
If already traveling with a wing man, both of whom are quite capable of doing well with non-pros.( no need for being hand held). And being able to rent a 2 bedroom luxury apt. for half of the price of 2 rooms at the Mansion. Why would one still desire to stay at the Mansion or VIP?
Feedback and explanations of the pros and cons from those who have experienced both would be greatly appreciated!
AM
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[QUOTE=Ricker]Hey DB ... that dude was just a wierdo.
Normally the Castillo is pretty tranquilo, especially if you introduced your girl as your girlfriend.[/QUOTE]Yeah you're there for a week and introduce some hooker as your girlfriend. Like everybody's buying that.
Your girl is fair game when you visit a brothel and your done with her. These places like Castillo and the Mansion are no different except the girls deliver. If the girl is really the girlfriend of the guy what is he worried about?
The hornjob outside of the room is a little over the top but not really when you think about it.
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Sessioned at New Life two weeks ago - with Yaneth (JAH-nay). She was beautiful during the 4 second spin - the pick of the bunch (Alejandra has some nice fake tits but appeared to be the pain in the ass type - someone hit that and get back to us)
As beautiful as Yaneth was at the offset as soon as the clothes came off everything fell apart. You know what I'm taling about - we HAVE to come up with a word for this phenomenon.
However going from a solid 8 to a 6 was not a problem when you're together in the room naked.
She proceeded with a massage which was a REAL massage! I was thinking that even if the sex sucked and there was no connection that the massage would be worth it for a repeat.
The sex sucked, we had no connection. YMMMV. The next day my back was sore. Not sure if it was from the massage or not. We just didn't click.
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Sessioned at Bellsuite twice in the past two weeks. Once was a little spinner who only works there once in a while when the bills come in. Not steady. There were only two girls available that day. Usually the selection is very limited at this place. I don't know why.
The session was ok but she was really well put together. A solid 9. She was on the phone and during the session she was not really into it. I forgot her name and the purpose of this post is that the lookers are usually the worst. They are in these places to score phone numbers of guys who want to see them outside of the MPs/casas. This way the girl gets all the money. Or the ones who don't do that just provide bad service as they are booked all day.
There was no doubt in my mind that this girl works the circuit occasionally to build up her book. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I just like the girl I am sessioning with to actually have her head in the session.
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I sessioned at Bellsuite last week. Paola is a stunner without the attitude. She is thin, small tits, REAL tall (with her shoes she's 5'10") and her ass is small. Just the way I like them - flacas.
There were only two to choose from (NEVER a seleccion tere for some reason) and the other one was either a really ugly woman or a very pretty monster. The choice was a no brainer despite the fact that this chick probably had "I know I'm hot" attitude. I didn't want to shop around as I had to get back to work.
She's a little rough around the edges, although except for her highly visible "Smoking Canabis" tattoo you would never know unless you speak real good Spanish.
I highly recommend Paula becuase she is a solid 9 in my book, although she may be too thin or tall for some guys. She is a solid 9, we connected and she didn't have the usual "the more gorgeous - the less enthusiasm" syndrome. Stick a brain in her and I'd take her out in public and show her to my friends. She was very attentive and having a long sleek body and super pretty face, well is something you never really get here too often. Ricker would love her.
Covered BJ although next time I think I can get BBBJ - I like that. Her ass was so nice that I did doggie both pops. I never do doggy unless the girl is thin. A great view.
The only thing is that both times after sex there was an odor when pulling out- not a slight odor either. She had a stanky pussy. I think/hope that this is just a phase or a temporary condition. It happens to the best of women - and if she needs the money you don't call in sick or take time off when it's your period (you insert "the blocker").
I will session with her again this coming week. She says she works there all week except Sunday. I never saw her there.
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El Castillo tranquillo, not anymore.
The office of the Mansion and El Castillo has in the last week been transfered to El Castillo, more room.
As for bringing your girlfriend into either the Masnion and El Castillo many guy's do and yes many girls do drop by to meet guests.
Aussie Greg.
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I think its a little over the top. I plan on having some non pros come into my room. No need to wait outside rooms trying to get sloppy seconds. There is not a sign on the front of the mansion that says 'hookers only'.
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]Yeah you're there for a week and introduce some hooker as your girlfriend. Like everybody's buying that.
Your girl is fair game when you visit a brothel and your done with her. These places like Castillo and the Mansion are no different except the girls deliver. If the girl is really the girlfriend of the guy what is he worried about?
The hornjob outside of the room is a little over the top but not really when you think about it.[/QUOTE]
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Completey biased
[QUOTE=Aussie Mate]What are the benefits of staying at the Mansion or VIP?
What is the Purpose?
If already traveling with a wing man, both of whom are quite capable of doing well with non-pros.( no need for being hand held). And being able to rent a 2 bedroom luxury apt. for half of the price of 2 rooms at the Mansion. Why would one still desire to stay at the Mansion or VIP?
Feedback and explanations of the pros and cons from those who have experienced both would be greatly appreciated!
AM[/QUOTE]Capable of doing well with non-pros. I will guess that you guys are goodlooking and speak spanish. For some reason these type of guys don't do well here. Maybe they don't understand the cultural needs of the Colombian girl. You want to sleep with them and they think of you as a future husband/boyfriend and don't want you to think they are a ****. If you are here a short time it usually doesn't work out as good as you want. High quality girls can be stuck up.
Hand held. This is called getting good service. You will get alot of info on where are the current best places to go. Free tours from me. Who will rip you off. Great time saver. Tons of semi-pros you will find no where else at the Sunday poolparty.
Why stay at the Mansion or Elcastillo?
Free cooked breakfast
Free tours from me
Free international phone
Free maids service everyday(wash those sticky sheets)
Free laundry
Walking distance from Olviedo mall
And the best part of all you make friends here. Guys from other places are constantly trying to come by to hang out and get non-pros numbers. Greg reserves the girls only for guess.
Jefe Elcastillo
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With all due respect to Aussie Greg and The Mansion, but I would have to agree with Rainman here, and say NEVER, EVER bring a date back there.
I would highly recommend against ever bringing any regular Paisas to either The Mansion and/or El Castillo. I stayed at El Castillo and there were two guys running around the halls yelling, "*****s, *****s, where are you? " There were also a few guys who would walk out to the kitchen with a small towel wrapped around their waste, this does not look good if you bring a date back, especially at 1:00pm in the afternoon.
Also, many guys have NO RESPECT and will approach your date, check her out before asking you, or her, how much? The mentality there seems to be that "everyone is fair game. "
If you are a complete newbie in MDE, just there for the P$P scene, than I would highly recommend staying at The Mansion, otherwise I would suggest staying at ClubVIP Hotel or La Casa Medellin. I stayed at both hotels on my last trip and was happy to see it was not full of mongers, both hotels had a great mix of guests.
I, for one, can not spend all day talking about how much pussy costs, how many chicas I scored with, and so on. Some guys have no freakin' personality and "normal life' outside of mongering, not the type of people I want to be associating with while on vacation.
There are so many great locally owned hotels, but it would require some Espanol on your part.
You also have the option of renting an apartment. There's always another gringo or two looking for an extra roomate. This is another great way to team up with a wingman to watch each others backs while hitting the streets.
If you find yourself a local driver, many available, who speaks English, and has a list of Prepagos to send over to your apartment, than you're all set to have the best of both worlds. Hit the casas all day, in the evening spend time with a regular Paisa, when she goes home, you can hit the clubs at night.
Overall, if you're looking to meet normal Paisas, why subject them to a mongering enviorment?
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TLN with Paola, Queen of porn
It’S Wednesday afternoon and I know that I’m in good shape for my favourite activity.
But I’m not feeling like trying something new, I want something sure and good after the bad experiment with the lovely 10: Katherine.
So I called Camila, Karen’s friend, but she is out of town, I called Lorena the good doll I did weeks ago who promised me BB and then said no to see if she would change her mind, but she doesn’t answer her phone. And then, it comes clearly, why don’t I try Paola again? She asked me so on our last session; she was a good BB performer. I call her and Bingo! She answers and she is free and willing to come. We fix our meeting at the Oviedo Mall at 7:30 and I tell her that this time she should arrive on time.
At the given time she arrives in her taxi (10K) and we start to walk exploring the Oviedo mall. It’s 7:30 pm and most stores are closing for the night, after 45 minutes walking and talking we decide that we will have supper there in Archie’s (a pizza+++ place). She orders Lasagne with chicken + a glass of wine and I have a salad. One hour later we walk out the Oviedo Mall and go slowly to my near-bye hotel (Leblon suites).
We enter the hotel with no problem (even if they will charge me 50K for having a guest as I’ll discover next day).
Now let me describe Paola.
She is a woman in her early 40s, she is fleshy, and had grew a good belly even if it’s not big when she stands up. She has her hair painted in dark blond, one of her eye has a little synchronization problem from time to time. She has a nice pair of firm natural tits as she never had kids. She must be 1, 6 meters high, she has a very white skin and a charming smile.
Well, she is not a cute but a charming lady with some conversations skill. Point is, that for circumstances of her life, she is alone (no novio) and desperate for sex and money!
I take my pill (Sidenafil), and we slowly take our clothes off. Paola is now relaxed and she takes care of my best friend starting a slow and delicious HJ. I let her do that while the pill makes some effects.
Once I’m reasonably stiff, I give her a good DATY finishing as she likes it: With closed legs. She came quite good moaning a lot and she tries to escape my tongue as her clit is very sensible. I have the same problem when I come, I can’t stand that the girl touch my dick and have to control it. Poor Paola, I block her legs and keep liking her clit and she desperately tries to escape my tongue while I’m trying to see if she can be multiorgasmic. But, it’s just too painful for her and she escapes my tongue.
30 seconds after, I’m in her pussy doing her Missionary and she just moans deliciously.
But I soon have a problem, I’m loosing stiffness.
10 minutes later, I propose Paola to have a shower as I can’t keep doing her.
Shower is ok and I recover some strength and do her a little under the warm water.
After the shower, my pill starts to work and I recover a very good functionality.
Paola want’s to give me a BBBJ, I take my camera and the show starts. She just loves to blow and does it very gooooooooooooooood!
But, she also loves to be taken in picture while doing it or having sex.
Later in the night, I’ll show her that I have made a movie and she’ll be very interested and willing to do some more! I’ve discovered a new Queen of Porn!
I can’t remember all the things we have done, but I came once as usual (yelling and spreading milk everywhere), she may have come once or twice more, but she never said enough or stop but always more and what now? By a miracle, I was able to remain hard almost all night long. Yes, we made it till 3am.
The only thing Paola doesn’t like is anal. But as she told me that she gave it to her Boy Friend, I thought why not to me? So I have worked hard on that. At the end of the night she was not protesting anymore when I was fingering her ass while doing her.
We saw our pictures and movie and she was very satisfied and wanted a copy for her!
I’ll burn a CD later on and will offer it for our next meeting.
The Leblon Suites is a nice hotel but I strongly advice to avoid the rooms towards the Poblado Avenue as it gets very noisy. I was awake around 5am and still stiff! Paola was not sleeping neither, as the room was too hot for her. So, we did it again till 7am! I came again and so did she, as she asked me to gave her another DATY, but this time fingering her pussy meanwhile. Of course, I did it gladly and ended with a finger in her pussy and a bit of a finger in her ass. I can’t remember having so much sex in one night in my all life, even when I was a young guy.
After that, we showered again and got dressed.
I gave her 100K + 20K for the taxi and she was not pleased at all as she was waiting for 180K! I told her that this was not the price for a TLN and gave her 20K more to close the argumentation.
I then walked till the Poblado Ave with her and let her in a taxi before going back to the hotel for my breakfast.
If you want to try Paola, just PM me and I’ll gladly give her phone, she deserves it.
I have made 4 movies from my Porno Quenn:
1) 2008-02-13_Mde-PaolaIn&OutTillCompletion.avi
Size : 30,8Mo
Length : 2’48”
Quality : Average due to poor light conditions …(In & out till I come)
2) 2008-02-13_Mde-PaolaDoggy.avi
Size : 28,3Mo
Length : 2’35”
Quality : Average due to poor light conditions …
3) 2008-02-13_Mde-PaolaCowGirl&Doggy+AssFingered.avi
Size : 31,9Mo
Length : 2’56”
Quality : Ok
4) 2008-02-13_Mde-PaolaBBBJ.avi
Size : 34,8Mo
Length : 3’55”
Quality : Ok but pixelated…
[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK749847ba804b2cc83[/url]
Cheers
Ps: As mentioned in a previous post, a guy named Cayzedo is stilling my pictures to post them on another Columbian board.
I don’t want these girls to be exposed on a Colombian or Spanish forum, even if it is protected by an under-age question and an adult warning.
So, I’ve decided to watermark my pictures and protect the girl’s faces.
Sorry for the inconveniences.
If one of you wants to see the pictures in their original aspect, please PM me.
Hope everybody understand this.
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10 photos
TLN with Paola, Queen of porn (2)
More pictures from Paola.
Cheers
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Thumbs up!
Another thumbs up to you Col Bog1
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[QUOTE=Traylor Park]With all due respect to Aussie Greg and The Mansion, but I would have to agree with Rainman here, and say NEVER, EVER bring a date back there.
I would highly recommend against ever bringing any regular Paisas to either The Mansion and/or El Castillo. I stayed at El Castillo and there were two guys running around the halls yelling, "*****s, *****s, where are you? " There were also a few guys who would walk out to the kitchen with a small towel wrapped around their waste, this does not look good if you bring a date back, especially at 1:00pm in the afternoon.
Also, many guys have NO RESPECT and will approach your date, check her out before asking you, or her, how much? The mentality there seems to be that "everyone is fair game. "
If you are a complete newbie in MDE, just there for the P$P scene, than I would highly recommend staying at The Mansion, otherwise I would suggest staying at ClubVIP Hotel or La Casa Medellin. I stayed at both hotels on my last trip and was happy to see it was not full of mongers, both hotels had a great mix of guests.[/QUOTE]Holy. I'm sure glad I stayed at VIP last time, because the guys there were gentlemanly and discreet about their pursuits. Castillo and Mansion always seem to attract those types.
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[QUOTE=ElCastillo]Capable of doing well with non-pros. I will guess that you guys are goodlooking and speak spanish. For some reason these type of guys don't do well here. Maybe they don't understand the cultural needs of the Colombian girl. You want to sleep with them and they think of you as a future husband/boyfriend and don't want you to think they are a ****. If you are here a short time it usually doesn't work out as good as you want. High quality girls can be stuck up.
Hand held. This is called getting good service. You will get alot of info on where are the current best places to go. Free tours from me. Who will rip you off. Great time saver. Tons of semi-pros you will find no where else at the Sunday poolparty.
Why stay at the Mansion or Elcastillo?
Free cooked breakfast
Free tours from me
Free international phone
Free maids service everyday(wash those sticky sheets)
Free laundry
Walking distance from Olviedo mall
And the best part of all you make friends here. Guys from other places are constantly trying to come by to hang out and get non-pros numbers. Greg reserves the girls only for guess.
Jefe Elcastillo[/QUOTE]This is exactly why I made this post! I wasn't debating the subject, only asking for non-biased answers.
Jefe, Thank you for taking time to point out the positives.
What would you consider to be the cons?
AM
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I can Remember
[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]I have never been the jealous type who would try to keep a girl for myself, but he was way over the top. We about came to blows before he understood that he was going to have to give me a little more breathing room than that!
DB[/QUOTE]A time in Guatemala City when. Hey whats wrong with this Dodger, You don't like guys bidding outside your door on a girl still full of your gism? I did not see you as the "frat" type anyway. When you are back in Medellin, you are welcome to use our Condo if its available!
I have more pictures from B town coming to your email soon!
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wasting away again in Monger-Ritaville
[QUOTE=GringoLoco2]I think its a little over the top. I plan on having some non pros come into my room. No need to wait outside rooms trying to get sloppy seconds. There is not a sign on the front of the mansion that says 'hookers only'.[/QUOTE]I hear ya buddy and know full well what you're talking about. But picture this. You bring your beautiful girlfriend to a *****house that has a dance floor bar etc... How do you expect the men to act towards you and her in that environment?
Now ask yourself that same question about the Castillo Mansions and similar places. The problem is not the guy standing outside your door looking to score the chick. The problem is you think you are in a hotel where normal women are walking around instead of in a place where 99% of the women are understood to be available for a price.
No respectable women hangs out at these places - unless you find one and bring her there to your mongerville retreat. And as another poster suggested why would you want to do that? Realize you are exposing yourself as a monger by brining her there. You think these chicks are stupid?
There may not be a sign that says "Hookers Only" just like there's not one that says "Mongers Only". But lets be honest.
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[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]I hear ya buddy and know full well what you're talking about. But picture this. You bring your beautiful girlfriend to a *****house that has a dance floor bar etc... How do you expect the men to act towards you and her in that environment?
Now ask yourself that same question about the Castillo Mansions and similar places. The problem is not the guy standing outside your door looking to score the chick. The problem is you think you are in a hotel where normal women are walking around instead of in a place where 99% of the women are understood to be available for a price.
No respectable women hangs out at these places - unless you find one and bring her there to your mongerville retreat. And as another poster suggested why would you want to do that? Realize you are exposing yourself as a monger by brining her there. You think these chicks are stupid?
There may not be a sign that says "Hookers Only" just like there's not one that says "Mongers Only". But lets be honest.[/QUOTE]Not all true. Examples: Alejandra, Lina, Lina's replacement, Lucha, the Spanish teacher and the accountant as well as the rest of staff. Robert & Greg's girlfriends and their freinds. During Feria de Flores 2006 they cut a deal for a wedding party group to stay at El Castillo for a few days. All were regular women.
Once, I had been hanging out with some of Greg's girlfriend's (Kata's) friends for a couple of hours without knowing the full story. I rode down to view the classic car parade with them and then we went back to the Mansion. I invited one up to El Castillo with me before I figured out they weren't on the program. " Tu pensabas que yo era una prepago? ! "
It was all taken in a good humored way and I ended up friends with them. They thought it was funny and were laughing there sweet little young asses off.
Scwmm
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I do not care of the girl thinks I'm a monger or not. It doesn't seem to stop them from going to the Mansion. Some might ask questions but most don't and have never heard of it. I think it comes down to respect. I have been in these situtations many times and never 'cock block' a guy if a girl is hanging out with him. First I do not know if she is a non-pro. Second, if she is a pro then he is paying for her time. Not me. It comes down to respect which I know many people do not have anymore.
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]I hear ya buddy and know full well what you're talking about. But picture this. You bring your beautiful girlfriend to a *****house that has a dance floor bar etc... How do you expect the men to act towards you and her in that environment?
Now ask yourself that same question about the Castillo Mansions and similar places. The problem is not the guy standing outside your door looking to score the chick. The problem is you think you are in a hotel where normal women are walking around instead of in a place where 99% of the women are understood to be available for a price.
No respectable women hangs out at these places - unless you find one and bring her there to your mongerville retreat. And as another poster suggested why would you want to do that? Realize you are exposing yourself as a monger by brining her there. You think these chicks are stupid?
There may not be a sign that says "Hookers Only" just like there's not one that says "Mongers Only". But lets be honest.[/QUOTE]
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staying in the mansion or vip
Hi,
As I'm coming to Medellin soon I have been reading reports and am intrigued by these two places.
Firstly Can anyone tell me prices (mas o menos) for staying in both these places? Second, asumming I don't need my hand to be held (I can find places for p4p with the help of ISG and can negotiate with chicas despite my limited spanish), what is the advantage of staying here (beside free internet etc. I mean mongering wise)?
Thanks
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2008 Febuary Price Report
[QUOTE=Loumann]Oh MY GOD. Here is one that actually admits it. Listen. Please. Everyone. I will agree in Las Vegas. Las Angeles. Sometimes Miami. That chica prices are very much in the $300 range. And when you get to Colombia if you are used to those numbers or higher. Its a bargain in Colombia. BUT. PLEASE. Pay the price of the county. Is not USA.
I can; t understand how anyone thinks its not shameful to overpay. It ruins the whole market place. Shame on you.
And also. I could get her anyday of the week. For 50 usa for 2 hours min. Cause I know how to talk to chicas. And thats over paying TO BOOT.[/QUOTE]
I agree it sucks to over pay, i am guilty myself from time to time. many establishments i use to frequent and now only visted a few times a month. heres a low down on what the prices being asked by local establishments for service
Lutron is asking 175,000 COP per hour service up from 168,000COP and the good old days of 70,000 COP
Abadosos is asking 103,000 COP per hour service up from 80,000 Ish
New life prices have not changed still 35,000 COP for 1/2 hour and 55,000 COP for 1 hour service
Lindas chicas is asking 60,000 COP multa (exit fee) up from 50,000 COP and TLN is still 100,000 COP is what the girl charges.
San diego is asking for 150,000 COP multa (exit fee) and the girls are asking 100,000 COP for 1 hour service and 200,000 COP PLUS for TLN this establishment is bye far the highest increase due to the pure greed of the owner (who should die) in addition they are now pushing 1/2 bottles on customers on wed,thursday, friday, and saturday. I also here the place is open on sunday, In addition they have created a new policy of charging the girls a multa if after closing they see her leave with a "client".Prices in 2006 were 70,000 COP per hour service and i think the multa was 80,000 COP
False Dose I hear is still 150,000 COP per 1 hour service, and pushing a 1/2 bottle of rum if you sit at a table, multa is still 150,000 COP.
I havent been to Eneregy or Blue Room yet they range 60,000 to 80,000 COP per hour service or those 1/2 dozen MP in centro they probly range 40,000 to 60,000 COP.
I have been to those strip clubs in centro on 53rd the three next door to each other, in house service is 40,000 COP i dont think they have seen a price change.
Over all prices are going up, due to inflation and a major part the demand of "gringo sex tourists" Medellin sex trade is limited with only 2 unlicensed houses, about 6-8 strip clubs (2 being heavily visted by gringos) and a dozen M.P.s a few hundred gringos visting the these establishments over a month will have an effect on the prices period. I also personally think quality of chicas is down but it could just be me, I just had a girl who was affraid to give me her cellphone number becuase the "establishment" needs its multa i have never run across that before!
I realize that the women are hot, and the prices they ask upfront are considered cheap in the states, and many people are on vacation to have a good time, but the dollar will continue its fall to new lows! money matters please try to pay local prices and negotiate, its basically comes down to perserving the local talent, if we do alittle bit then we can prevent things from getting out of control.
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Nice Report
Nice report sailor and you are correct, we can avoid San Diego, the owner is a greedy bastard who has seen the last Gringo buck from me, its up to all of us to Boycott his ass. Also pay the Colombian rate guys, not the gringo fuck you rate, I walked out of 4 casas last week laughing when they quoted me anything over 70, 000, lets keep the money where it belongs in the Centro MPS, my 2 cents.
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[QUOTE=Jchipper]Nice report sailor and you are correct, we can avoid San Diego, the owner is a greedy bastard who has seen the last Gringo buck from me, its up to all of us to Boycott his ass. Also pay the Colombian rate guys, not the gringo fuck you rate, I walked out of 4 casas last week laughing when they quoted me anything over 70, 000, lets keep the money where it belongs in the Centro MPS, my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I will keep it in mind over next trip.
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]I agree it sucks to over pay, i am guilty myself from time to time. many establishments i use to frequent and now only visted a few times a month. heres a low down on what the prices being asked by local establishments for service
Lutron is asking 175,000 COP per hour service up from 168,000COP and the good old days of 70,000 COP
Abadosos is asking 103,000 COP per hour service up from 80,000 Ish
New life prices have not changed still 35,000 COP for 1/2 hour and 55,000 COP for 1 hour service
Lindas chicas is asking 60,000 COP multa (exit fee) up from 50,000 COP and TLN is still 100,000 COP is what the girl charges.
San diego is asking for 150,000 COP multa (exit fee) and the girls are asking 100,000 COP for 1 hour service and 200,000 COP PLUS for TLN this establishment is bye far the highest increase due to the pure greed of the owner (who should die) in addition they are now pushing 1/2 bottles on customers on wed,thursday, friday, and saturday. I also here the place is open on sunday, In addition they have created a new policy of charging the girls a multa if after closing they see her leave with a "client".Prices in 2006 were 70,000 COP per hour service and i think the multa was 80,000 COP
False Dose I hear is still 150,000 COP per 1 hour service, and pushing a 1/2 bottle of rum if you sit at a table, multa is still 150,000 COP.
I havent been to Eneregy or Blue Room yet they range 60,000 to 80,000 COP per hour service or those 1/2 dozen MP in centro they probly range 40,000 to 60,000 COP.
I have been to those strip clubs in centro on 53rd the three next door to each other, in house service is 40,000 COP i dont think they have seen a price change.
Over all prices are going up, due to inflation and a major part the demand of "gringo sex tourists" Medellin sex trade is limited with only 2 unlicensed houses, about 6-8 strip clubs (2 being heavily visted by gringos) and a dozen M.P.s a few hundred gringos visting the these establishments over a month will have an effect on the prices period. I also personally think quality of chicas is down but it could just be me, I just had a girl who was affraid to give me her cellphone number becuase the "establishment" needs its multa i have never run across that before!
I realize that the women are hot, and the prices they ask upfront are considered cheap in the states, and many people are on vacation to have a good time, but the dollar will continue its fall to new lows! money matters please try to pay local prices and negotiate, its basically comes down to perserving the local talent, if we do alittle bit then we can prevent things from getting out of control.[/QUOTE]Great synopsis amigo!
I've actually taken a break from Colombia and spending time in Argentina y Brazil.
Had to get away from the gringo frenzy for a bit.
I know this isn't the place for this comment, but I'll say it anyway.
Buenos Aires, one of the nicest cities I have ever seen. I believe I made love to the most beautiful women I've ever been with there last week.
I'm writing from Sao Paolo Brazil at the moment. I can only say one thing about Brazillian chicas. I thought I had good sex before coming to Brazil, but I was wrong. Absolutely the best I've been with bar none. I'm hooked
Sorry muchachos, I'll get back on track.
Listen to Sailor, Loumann, Chipper, etc. Quit over-paying. No reason for it.
Take care. Tudu bem
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[QUOTE=Jchipper]Nice report sailor and you are correct, we can avoid San Diego, the owner is a greedy bastard who has seen the last Gringo buck from me, its up to all of us to Boycott his ass. Also pay the Colombian rate guys, not the gringo fuck you rate, I walked out of 4 casas last week laughing when they quoted me anything over 70, 000, lets keep the money where it belongs in the Centro MPS, my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with that, when in doubt, just walk out and hit the 30,000 casas.
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Jefe Elcastillo
[QUOTE=Jotting]Hi,
As I'm coming to Medellin soon I have been reading reports and am intrigued by these two places.
Firstly Can anyone tell me prices (mas o menos) for staying in both these places? Second, asumming I don't need my hand to be held (I can find places for p4p with the help of ISG and can negotiate with chicas despite my limited spanish), what is the advantage of staying here (beside free internet etc. I mean mongering wise)?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Why don't you book at both places and make up your own mind. The prices are about the same at both places.
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Thanks Sailer.
Can you tell me how much those 1/2 bottles of rum cost at San Diego/Fase?? Is that per person at table??
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Monger rita ville
[QUOTE=Schwmmr]Not all true. Examples: Alejandra, Lina, Lina's replacement, Lucha, the Spanish teacher and the accountant as well as the rest of staff. Robert & Greg's girlfriends and their freinds. During Feria de Flores 2006 they cut a deal for a wedding party group to stay at El Castillo for a few days. All were regular women.
Once, I had been hanging out with some of Greg's girlfriend's (Kata's) friends for a couple of hours without knowing the full story. I rode down to view the classic car parade with them and then we went back to the Mansion. I invited one up to El Castillo with me before I figured out they weren't on the program. " Tu pensabas que yo era una prepago? ! "
Scwmm[/QUOTE]The Spanish teacher? 2 other employees? A wedding party that was there once?
There's always an exception to the rule. Doesn't really prove anything. Bottom line the "Girlfriend" you bring back to these Castillo Mansions know you are a monger and the guys staying there will assume she is a prostitute. Don't cite 3 employees, the owners girlfriends and a wedding party against the other 90% of the women (hookers) there.
When you are in a monger envornment what do you expect? If you don't want some monger drooling outside your door, hitting on your chick than why are you staying there instead of hotel?
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[QUOTE=GringoLoco2]I do not care of the girl thinks I'm a monger or not. It doesn't seem to stop them from going to the Mansion. Some might ask questions but most don't and have never heard of it. I think it comes down to respect. I have been in these situtations many times and never 'cock block' a guy if a girl is hanging out with him. First I do not know if she is a non-pro. Second, if she is a pro then he is paying for her time. Not me. It comes down to respect which I know many people do not have anymore.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct - respect. Too bad their is no honor or respect among theives/mongers. Not everyone is a gentleman. The girls may not have heard of the Mansion by name but they know there are gringo sex tourist places. If you are a guy travelling alone in Medellin the women know you are a guy hunting broads - doesn't matter where you are staying. You obviously ain't here because of the beach and all the all the tourist attractions. Please give Comlombian women a little more credit.
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[QUOTE=PrometheusFire]I selected a girl at New Life who led me into a tiny room just large enough to fit a small, old bed. The bedsheets didn´t look fresh so I spread a towel over it. She rolled the condom on my unit and proceeded with a 5-second CBJ. It was the shortest CBJ in memory. Then she mounted on top but wasn´t very skilled. When we switched to doggy that´s when I smelled the awful stench from down under. Instant erection killer. I didn´t have the heart to tell her that her pussy wreaked. We tried other positions but the odor was just too much. I told her to suck me but she didn´t want to taste her own pussy odor on the condom. I told her told her to finish me off with a handjob but it felt like weed pulling. I left without cumming.
If you go here make sure mamasan charges you for the correct time and don´t pick a stinker.[/QUOTE]I got a stinker two weeks ago at Bell Suite. Do you remember if this girl was thin, small tits, tall, pretty?
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1/2 bottles
San Diego 1/2 bottle is around 45,000 COP with coke
False Dose 1/2 bottle of rum is 55,000 COP with coke
[QUOTE=Steve 99]Thanks Sailer.
Can you tell me how much those 1/2 bottles of rum cost at San Diego/Fase?? Is that per person at table??[/QUOTE]
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The owners "girlfriends"
You say that like its normal in Colombia for a man to have 2 girlfriends hand in hand, a normal colombian women would never share her man she would kill him first.
Luck eddie is right on, give these girls some credit they know why your here, maybe if you speak spanish you can lie but even then they will suspect you.
Heres a story about 2 years ago at ave maria my friend and I were having a conversation with a hostess and it led to why gringos are coming to Medellin and she simply said "they are here for sex"
Another time at trida while I was going to meet a friend alone the hostess asked if I was staying at the "mansion". I tiold her in spnish what, where, and she said never mind.
The word is out. People talk and its kinda apparent when 3 or 4 guys walk into park illares with girls in their teens, dressed like "prepagos" also our own behavior leads to these labels, I have seen many gringos walking around park illares chasing after women litterally this dude took off running, it was funny to see but people where staring. Again normal colombian men can do the same thing but we are the visitors and outsiders.
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]The Spanish teacher? 2 other employees? A wedding party that was there once?
There's always an exception to the rule. Doesn't really prove anything. Bottom line the "Girlfriend" you bring back to these Castillo Mansions know you are a monger and the guys staying there will assume she is a prostitute. Don't cite 3 employees, the owners girlfriends and a wedding party against the other 90% of the women (hookers) there.
When you are in a monger envornment what do you expect? If you don't want some monger drooling outside your door, hitting on your chick than why are you staying there instead of hotel?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]The Spanish teacher? 2 other employees? A wedding party that was there once?
There's always an exception to the rule. Doesn't really prove anything. Bottom line the "Girlfriend" you bring back to these Castillo Mansions know you are a monger and the guys staying there will assume she is a prostitute. Don't cite 3 employees, the owners girlfriends and a wedding party against the other 90% of the women (hookers) there.
When you are in a monger envornment what do you expect? If you don't want some monger drooling outside your door, hitting on your chick than why are you staying there instead of hotel?[/QUOTE]To all: Enough said,
Scwmm
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[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was deleted pursuant to the restrictions in the Colombia Forum prohibiting negative posts, said restriction being necessary to thwart the Serial Antagonists who would seek to destroy this forum as part of their strategy to dissuade anyone from visiting what they consider their private playground in Colombia.
In other words, if you don't have something positive to say, then please don't post. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue]
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[QUOTE=Fantasy]A time in Guatemala City when. Hey whats wrong with this Dodger, You don't like guys bidding outside your door on a girl still full of your gism? I did not see you as the "frat" type anyway. When you are back in Medellin, you are welcome to use our Condo if its available![/QUOTE]Are you talking about the club that you busted us into when it was closed, my friend?
Did you forget that your little spinner had been on my lap first, Fantasy? But being a
good wingman and host, I released her to you when you indicated your interest.
Well, maybe the fact that there was a chica down the hall who caught my eye also
had something to do with my largesse. A bird in the bush is with two in the hand.
At least I waited until we returned later that night before I approached your girl. But
by then she had been smitten with your charms and no other gringo was good enough!
DB
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Private Playground?
Medellin is not my private playground. I never implied that it was. As other South American Countries are not "Our" private playgrounds either. As Sailor2006 put it. "We are ll just guests".
With that said, Moderator if you believe this post is negative. Then by all means feel free to delete it.
KB151
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Hi KB,
What I want are chica reports, not police reports.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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Flying High at the Medellin Mansion!
Gents,
The whole discussion between which is better. The Mansion or VIP may be coming to an end. If you have stayed or been by VIP lately you may have noticed a huge ARRIENDA sign on the front gates of VIP. In fact the Down Under Group may very well be in line to take over VIP.
VIP definitely is a nice place to stay. I was there just two weeks ago for one week. The Mansion/Castillo was full so I opted for VIP. It of course is different than the Mansion/Castillo. It was calm and peaceful but devoid of any chica action as I had thought it might be. I think it's safe to say that I am a bit mored versed in the monger business than your average monger so to me it did not matter though.
I did stop by the Mansion a couple of days to meet with a few fellow mongers who wanted to meet me. Each time there were beautiful Paisas available at the Mansion. I was also invited to the Sunday Mansion Party which is usually reserved for Mansion guests. There were a multitude of Paisas to cohort with of course. Again I was not a guest so I did not take any Paisas from the premise.
However, at times I was invited to join in some fun with a couple of stand up mongers and we did have some fun together at the Mansion. The guys insisted I bring my camera to capture some of the fun. I of course complied.
Bottom line guys is there has always been a big difference between the Mansion/Castillo and VIP but this too may be coming to an end.
For what it's worth though, the Medellin Mansion gets High marks from experienced monger such as myself as well as novice mongers.
Cheers,
Cubanut
PS. Sorry about having to mask the faces of these beautiful Paisas but unfortunately there are those "heroes" who keep showing the girls of Medellin the content of ISG.
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I want to hear all reports regardless of weather they are police reports or not.
Surely it is important we know what is going on even if it is deemed 'negative.'
Believe it or not it's not all chocolates and roses in Colombia. Let's get out our heads out of the sand.
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[QUOTE=Cubanut]Gents,
The whole discussion between which is better. The Mansion or VIP may be coming to an end. If you have stayed or been by VIP lately you may have noticed a huge ARRIENDA sign on the front gates of VIP. In fact the Down Under Group may very well be in line to take over VIP.
VIP definitely is a nice place to stay. I was there just two weeks ago for one week. The Mansion/Castillo was full so I opted for VIP. It of course is different than the Mansion/Castillo. It was calm and peaceful but devoid of any chica action as I had thought it might be. I think it's safe to say that I am a bit mored versed in the monger business than your average monger so to me it did not matter though.
I did stop by the Mansion a couple of days to meet with a few fellow mongers who wanted to meet me. Each time there were beautiful Paisas available at the Mansion. I was also invited to the Sunday Mansion Party which is usually reserved for Mansion guests. There were a multitude of Paisas to cohort with of course. Again I was not a guest so I did not take any Paisas from the premise.
However, at times I was invited to join in some fun with a couple of stand up mongers and we did have some fun together at the Mansion. The guys insisted I bring my camera to capture some of the fun. I of course complied.
Bottom line guys is there has always been a big difference between the Mansion/Castillo and VIP but this too may be coming to an end.
For what it's worth though, the Medellin Mansion gets High marks from experienced monger such as myself as well as novice mongers.
Cheers,
Cubanut
PS. Sorry about having to mask the faces of these beautiful Paisas but unfortunately there are those "heroes" who keep showing the girls of Medellin the content of ISG.[/QUOTE]Dude:
Niccce!! Good photography. Always like to see a something different & creative (excluding closeups of genitalia!). From a judge's perspective, as in diving or gymnastics:
#1: 6.5
#2: 7.0
#3: 8.0
#4: 6.5
Schwmm
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I like the facilities at VIP. As stated originally in the Mansion vs VIP post, I thought they were way better than the Mansion's. It is too bad they could'nt do more with what they had as Kevin sunk alot of money into the place.
Lets not forget, it is all about Albert and he did get to drive around town in a Hummer.
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Safety First,
Gents, while AG is away be careful when going out on the town. His group has the advise and know how to avoid trouble. The new tension between Ecuador and Colombia has the potential to spark overflow into the big city. I have noticed and increase in security around the shopping centers and Gov. Buildings. God forbid the bastards of FARC start the mid east tactics and antics of Poblo again. This is still a Dangerous country with some 15 or so Americans now in Farc control. It can happen quickly even in the city. You can be pushed into a car and taken away till the fall of nite alows them to transport you to a hostage camp. Just keep low profile till this gets off the main page, Have a great vacation AG, and Safety First
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VIP club
[url]http://www.inmobiliarialleras.com/descripcion.php?propiedad=LO02124[/url]
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[QUOTE=Cubanut]If you have stayed or been by VIP lately you may have noticed a huge ARRIENDA sign on the front gates of VIP.[/QUOTE]That is very interesting. Do you know if they are interested in selling it?
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Fase
[QUOTE=Sailor2006]San Diego 1/2 bottle is around 45,000 COP with coke
False Dose 1/2 bottle of rum is 55,000 COP with coke[/QUOTE]I think a 1/2 bottle at Fase is 85,000 with cokes. Make sure they don't rip you off. Don't run a tab. Tip the guy right away to help.
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With today's exhange rate that is only 1.84 million dollars.
[QUOTE=Sailor2006][url]http://www.inmobiliarialleras.com/descripcion.php?propiedad=LO02124[/url][/QUOTE]
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The Mansion, better value.
Why not buy the Mansion!
Better value for the property and always full with guests?
Aussie Greg
[QUOTE=Casa Medellin]With today's exhange rate that is only 1.84 million dollars.[/QUOTE]
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Can a gringo get a loan or escrow?
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Why not buy the Mansion!
Better value for the property and always full with guests?
Aussie Greg[/QUOTE]
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I hope he gets the 1.8 million.
I will then sell mine for 3 million.
I think buying the mansion would be a lot of fun. I would immediately ban several people. :)
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Why not buy the Mansion!
Better value for the property and always full with guests?
Aussie Greg[/QUOTE]
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Inflation hits again
That price at false dose is probly what I paid 2005.2006 for a 1/2 of rum in two years I am sure its gone up to 85, 000 COP damn inflation!
[QUOTE=ElCastillo]I think a 1/2 bottle at Fase is 85,000 with cokes. Make sure they don't rip you off. Don't run a tab. Tip the guy right away to help.[/QUOTE]
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As with anything in Colombia that is for rent, its becuase they cant sell it!
[QUOTE=Casa Medellin]With today's exhange rate that is only 1.84 million dollars.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]As with anything in Colombia that is for rent, its becuase they cant sell it![/QUOTE]Really? With rents at 1-2% purchase price/month renting out is not too a bad investment.
Sure beats holding US dollars.
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Like alot of other guys, I stopped going to Fase Dos. Everytime you leave you get that ripped off feeling.
Prices change depending on what they think they can get the gringo for.
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Loan
Of course a gringo can be approved for a loan with any local Colombian bank youll just have to leave both testies at the bank as collateral.
[QUOTE=Justafool]Can a gringo get a loan or escrow?[/QUOTE]
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Mangoes
I heard a rumor about the mango dancers are willing to go home with clients for a priced, I don't really goto mangos EXPENSIVE, just wondering if it was true?
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Vips
Let me set the record straight one more time VIP 1 owned by Kevin is for rent and it is runining until then you must not get confused and VIP 2 owned by Albert near parque lleras is open and runing very good we have been quite full january and februaury as well as i have four apartments for rent also.
So for you guys looking for a place in Medellin as low as 40.00 and up let me know.
Albert Licht
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Gents,
The whole discussion between which is better. The Mansion or VIP may be coming to an end. If you have stayed or been by VIP lately you may have noticed a huge ARRIENDA sign on the front gates of VIP. In fact the Down Under Group may very well be in line to take over VIP.
VIP definitely is a nice place to stay. I was there just two weeks ago for one week. The Mansion/Castillo was full so I opted for VIP. It of course is different than the Mansion/Castillo. It was calm and peaceful but devoid of any chica action as I had thought it might be. I think it's safe to say that I am a bit mored versed in the monger business than your average monger so to me it did not matter though.
I did stop by the Mansion a couple of days to meet with a few fellow mongers who wanted to meet me. Each time there were beautiful Paisas available at the Mansion. I was also invited to the Sunday Mansion Party which is usually reserved for Mansion guests. There were a multitude of Paisas to cohort with of course. Again I was not a guest so I did not take any Paisas from the premise.
However, at times I was invited to join in some fun with a couple of stand up mongers and we did have some fun together at the Mansion. The guys insisted I bring my camera to capture some of the fun. I of course complied.
Bottom line guys is there has always been a big difference between the Mansion/Castillo and VIP but this too may be coming to an end.
For what it's worth though, the Medellin Mansion gets High marks from experienced monger such as myself as well as novice mongers.
Cheers,
Cubanut
PS. Sorry about having to mask the faces of these beautiful Paisas but unfortunately there are those "heroes" who keep showing the girls of Medellin the content of ISG.[/QUOTE]
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I just tell them i'm here for work and some vacation. works every time.
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]You are 100% correct - respect. Too bad their is no honor or respect among theives/mongers. Not everyone is a gentleman. The girls may not have heard of the Mansion by name but they know there are gringo sex tourist places. If you are a guy travelling alone in Medellin the women know you are a guy hunting broads - doesn't matter where you are staying. You obviously ain't here because of the beach and all the all the tourist attractions. Please give Comlombian women a little more credit.[/QUOTE]
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Massajes Japones
Has anyone got more than a Massage at this place, its in the Villaneuva building across from Venus, Big sign can be sen from the road in Centro that has the name and number on it, let me know, went there last month and it was soo Legit, 35, 000 for the hour and no hint of a hand job, also, Lindas Chicas is a weird set up, went one time with bog and since then the door will not open for me, I see them peak out but shut the shade back, maybe since I did not buy she thinks I was LOOKIE LOU.
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Sailor,
Every time you come to Medellin your at Mango's mate, cut the bullshit.
The only person who I know of who has fucked a Mango's dancer in the last 5 years since I've been in Medellin, Colombia is me, and I havent paid not one pesos, the big black guy and two of the midgets !!
No not really, just three of the female dancers and as for what they charge, I have never seen or heard of them fucking for money and I know all of them in the last 5 years.
Aussie Greg. ps, hi from Queensland Australia mate.
Aussie Greg[QUOTE=Sailor2006]I heard a rumor about the mango dancers are willing to go home with clients for a priced, I don't really goto mangos EXPENSIVE, just wondering if it was true?[/QUOTE]
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Oh shit!
I hope I do not get some strange kangaroo disease.
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]No not really, just three of the female dancers.....[/QUOTE]
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Blue Room
I was in blue room today, quoted price was 75,000 COP full service hour, the lady informs me take out is now a 2 hour minium at 180,000 COP plus transport, the line up wasnt that great, only 3 girls!! but i was there early afternoon, ill be going back tommrrow, also vist engery and check out the line up.
Greg take it easy, i was asking a question about a rumor i heard, i dont even know where i heard it probly PBH, anywaz you answear my question, thanks
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Salior,
Always taking it easy mate, real tranquilo here in Queensland
Yes the Mango's dancers, there's alot of talk but its all bullshit mate, why would they fuck a gringo when there are planty of mafia types who would give them millions to fuck them.
I'm of into the country today looking at a diary farm, what about Aussie Greg's Diary/Organic vegatables farm in Australia, would you all come!
Aussie Greg.
[QUOTE=Sailor2006]I was in blue room today, quoted price was 75,000 COP full service hour, the lady informs me take out is now a 2 hour minium at 180,000 COP plus transport, the line up wasnt that great, only 3 girls!! but i was there early afternoon, ill be going back tommrrow, also vist engery and check out the line up.
Greg take it easy, i was asking a question about a rumor i heard, i dont even know where i heard it probly PBH, anywaz you answear my question, thanks[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Salior,
Always taking it easy mate, real tranquilo here in Queensland
Yes the Mango's dancers, there's alot of talk but its all bullshit mate, why would they fuck a gringo when there are planty of mafia types who would give them millions to fuck them.
I'm of into the country today looking at a diary farm, what about Aussie Greg's Diary/Organic vegatables farm in Australia, would you all come!
Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE]Maybe a little tougher running a spot there with working girls. There are not that many dairy maids in the area. Grew up in Brisbane
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At easy
You always take it easy mate, and your right, stupid for me to even bring it up, I really don't rember where I heard it from, and if anybody would know it would be you, enjoy the vacation lata.
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Salior,
Always taking it easy mate, real tranquilo here in Queensland
Yes the Mango's dancers, there's alot of talk but its all bullshit mate, why would they fuck a gringo when there are planty of mafia types who would give them millions to fuck them.
I'm of into the country today looking at a diary farm, what about Aussie Greg's Diary/Organic vegatables farm in Australia, would you all come!
Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE]
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Overpriced casas outside of Centro?
[QUOTE=Jchipper]Nice report sailor and you are correct, we can avoid San Diego, the owner is a greedy bastard who has seen the last Gringo buck from me, its up to all of us to Boycott his ass. Also pay the Colombian rate guys, not the gringo fuck you rate, I walked out of 4 casas last week laughing when they quoted me anything over 70, 000, lets keep the money where it belongs in the Centro MPS, my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I am curious which casas you walked out of.
I think the Centro casas still average 50K for an hour, no?
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It depends on what type of chicas you're milking. ;)
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Salior,
Always taking it easy mate, real tranquilo here in Queensland
Yes the Mango's dancers, there's alot of talk but its all bullshit mate, why would they fuck a gringo when there are planty of mafia types who would give them millions to fuck them.
I'm of into the country today looking at a diary farm, what about Aussie Greg's Diary/Organic vegatables farm in Australia, would you all come!
Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE]
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One Month In Medellin
Heading out next Friday for MDE, my first trip for a month. I see a lot of references to maps on the server, but no actual maps. Anyone know where I can get a decent map of MDE.
Have a nice 2 bedroom apt in Pablado, going solo, interest out there in joining me? PM me.
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Condoms?
[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]More pictures from Paola.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Thanks for the pics but you don't use condoms?
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[QUOTE=Wandering Man]Anyone know where I can get a decent map of MDE.[/QUOTE]Google Earth.
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[QUOTE=Wandering Man]Heading out next Friday for MDE, my first trip for a month. I see a lot of references to maps on the server, but no actual maps. Anyone know where I can get a decent map of MDE.
Have a nice 2 bedroom apt in Pablado, going solo, interest out there in joining me? PM me.[/QUOTE]I am also heading out to MDE (Mar 19th) and I am in the process of booking an Apt. I am there for 4 days, would you be interested in working out something for the 4 nights.
I just finished upgrading my membership so I can PM you later or you can PM when it gets activated. (Prob tomorrow)
I have posted before on Colombia and DR section. We can chat offline.
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Medellin map
Google earthis hardly a good map! I looked.
I'd like to find one also!
Anyone found a PDF or similar?
Thanks,
Belmont
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Maps
[url]www.medellininfo.com[/url] has some great maps of MDE with safe areas in blue. iPhone has incredible street name and detail on its map function. As far as I know google earth has no calle numbers to find MP's & other monger spots on this board.
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Map best I coul find i 5 miutes
Good luck! I'd like to see a good street map also. Maybe someone has one.
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The Maps
Hopefully some one has a good street map.
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Map of Medellin from Colombian Government Website
Another good map of Medellin is from a Colombian government website, very detailed and previously posted on this forum, but helpful as a reminder for newbies to Colombia, (like me).
[url]http://www.medellin.gov.co/alcaldia/jsp/modulos/V_medellin/mapasciudad1.jsp?idPagina=860[/url]
Thanks senior member Tom 33 for all your help, I will superimpose my google earth plus to this map.
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Ines - A blast from my past
Gents,
Today I came across this one and only picture I have of a girl named Ines (pronounced ee-ness) that I met last year. I remembered how much fun it was being with her so I thought I would relate the story of her and I to you all. Like I said, this was about year ago but it is still fresh in my mind.
I had taken a friend of mine to Parque Botero and then to Conjenitos strip bar which is across the street from the park. We both sessioned with girls at Conjenitos then went to grab a bite to eat a block away at a rotisserie chicken place. While there I metioned that we were just a few blocks from Calle 53 and although we had just recently had a session that it was worth checking out.
Now many of you know about Calle 53 but for those who don't it is simply a street area where cheap hookers hang out. It is safe during the afternoon and into early evening but I don't recommend walking around the area come nightfall. There are many drug sellers and addicts as well in the area so even during the day it is wise to keep your guard up.
So we walked over to Calle 53 and we turn the corner and my friend Dirty Diana is there. Diana is a girl I met a the year before and had taken to the Mansion. She was so good looking that when Greg met her she became a Mansion regular airport pickup girl. She has been a favorite amongst many a Mansion guest with some even taking her to vacation at San Andres. She did her first strip show at the Mansion soon after introducing her to Greg and went on to do dildo and lesbian shows. She had a bit of a falling out with the Mansion though and her she was again at Calle 53.
So after many hugs and kisses and catching up with Diana she tells me she wants me to meet a friend of hers and goes by the door way of hotel and pulls out a pretty girl. While she's doing this my buddy tells me he thinks he'd like to give Diana a go but is afraid that he may not be able to shoot so soon. I tell him that Diana could make a dead horse shoot a last time (she is that good).
Diana comes back with the girl in tow and introduces her to us as Ines. She has an innocent face and a forced smile on her face but is pleasant enough. Her curly long hair was pulled back and she was wearing a loose fitting jump suit outfit that didn't allow one to know what shape her upper body was in. Diana goes on to say that this is Ines's first time on the street and that she just turned 18. She says she had been living with boyfriend for 2 years but he had recently been locked up for a robbery and now she had no one to care for her and had rent to pay and food to buy so her she was. Diana asked if I could "help her out".
Well, Ines was pretty enough but when I asked her how many men she had been with she said 1 and that had been her boyfriend. "1"? I asked her to be honest with me and she smiled and held up her index finger and repeated that her boyfriend had been the only man she had ever been with.
I started to think that maybe Ines would not be that well versed in sex since being with only one man in her life. On top of this, it being her first time with someone else for money may not turn out good. I say this because many times at Mayorista I have found that many of the young girls are inexperienced at sex and is why they just aren't very good at it. That's why you have to go through so many to find a good one.
Since my buddy wanted to sesson with Diana I decided to give Ines a try. I asked Diana what the rate was for both and she said $40,000 cop for half hour, hotel included. This amazed me that Diana was out her basically asking $30,000 cop still (just as when I first met her) after making $80,000 to $200,000 for sessions back at the Mansion. However, my buddy thinks half hour us too short a time and the girls agree to $60,000 for an hour, hotel included.
So my buddy takes Diana and I take Ines up the stairs of the hotel we were in front of. once inside Ines and I sit on the bed and talk a few minutes. I ask her if she likes sex and she says she does. I tell her how I prefer girlfriend like sex (GFE) and she says that's ll she knows how to do. We laugh and she starts to take off her clothes. My jaw almost dropped when I saw the beautiful body that the loose fitting jumpsuit had been hiding. Her natural tits were large for her frame and I asked her if she had ever had a baby to which she said no. Her nipples were so cute because they were pink and come to a point and faced opposite directs instead of straight ahead. The rest of her body just as perfect and shapely. I grabbed my camera and Ines immediately said no to any pictures but I talked her into one but with panties on. That was good enough for me.
Ines and I then jumped into the shower together and washed each others bodies. After rinsing off the soap, we stood under the warm water and I reminded her about the GFE sex I had mentioned before. She just smiled, nodded and proceeded to embrace me and started to kiss my chest and kiss and caress my nipples with her tongue and mouth. She then dropped to one knee and lifted my slowly hardening cock and licked and sucked at my nut sack a minute before introducing the head of my now stiffened cock to her mouth and tongue. This was the GFE that we mongers covet so much and I was enjoying the crap out of it. Ines stayed down there for about five minutes before she suggested we hit the bed. So we dried off and did so.
In bed, Ines released the clip from her hair and revealed how full, long and curly her hair was. With her hair loose, she suddenly became a work of art as she lied down on her back. I then climbed atop of Ines and to my surprise it was Ines who initiated kissing and Frenching. She did lots of tongue thrusting and sucking all the while roaming her hands up and don my back and at times placing a hand behind my head and gently pulling me to her face for more kissing action.
It was at this time that I was glad my buddy had insisted on doing an hour instead of half so this would not be a rushed session. Ines was definately racking up points in the Cubanut storybook of best love makers.
I had not yet tasted or even kissed Ines's firm breasts so I slowly pulled away from her mouth and started to caress her beautiful tits and then kissed and licked and played with each one. Ines would giggle and laugh as she was ticklish, which added to the fun. I then headed south to her shaved mound and proceeded to taste and sample one of the finest fruits Colombia had to offer. She was delicious, enough said.
Although the oral sex was bareback, Ines insisted on covered sex. So I slapped a Crown on and started missionary style then moved onto cowgirl. All the while, Ines's body was in a sexy romantic rhythm which only lacked music. Her steady bodily moves and light groans of pleasure matched mine to a tee. I gazed and groped at her wondrous orbs as she grasped my hands to squeeze them even harder. She was a true delight.
I looked up at Ines and our eyes met and I asked her what type of sex she liked. She said just like this but.... she knew that she entered into the world of prostitution and did not expect every John to be like me. I was a bit confused and she explained that Diana had told her that some guys (Colombians I assume she meant) might get a little rough so be expecting it. I asked her if her boyfriend had ever gotten rough with her and she said no.
I pulled out Ines and we lay side by side and caressed her innocent face. I told her that Diana was right and to expect at times a guy will go at it in not so nice a way. Then she asked me something I did not expect, "Will you show me"? "Show you what"? I asked back. Ines then proceeded to ask me to show her how rough sex could be. I laughed and asked her if she was serious and she said yes. I sat up and so did she and I asked how rough. She said she didn't want to be hurt but just show her rough sex so she knew somewhat what to expect.
So I agreed to show Ines what I thought was my idea rough sex and reached out to caress her face with my hand and we both smiled. I then slowly reach behind her and grab a clump of her hair and PULLED her head backwards suddenly into the pillow. She shrieked a bit as I did but I then shoved my hand onto her mouth as to shut her up and grabbed at her faced and shoved two fingers into her mouth and commanded her to suck on them. She complied and with my left hand I squeezed her right tit and then bent down and started biting on her breasts and nipples. A groan of displeasure would come from Ines's mouth but I paid it no mind. I then went down to her pussy and shoved two fingers inside her and worked her furiously and at the same time was now alternately gropping and biting and sucking on both tits. I then shoved the two fingers deep inside Ines's mouth and told her she was Puta ****. I then jumped off the bed and turned her over onto her stomach then pulled her up to me. I then shoved my cock inside her doggy style and grabbed at her curly hair and yanked head head back hard again causing uncomfortable moans from her. I rammed hard into her (I was enjoying this as well) and telling her she was nothing more than a *****. I then shoved her head onto the bed and while still inside her from behind I put my right foot onto the bed then onto the right side of her face (a first for me as well). Although it was a tough position for me, I gave it all I had and just kept ramming into her and then I started slapping her ass cheeks and kept slapping at them till they were tomato red. I could feel a surge of cum stirring in my nut sack and so I pulled out and pulled Ines off the bed by her hair and forced her to her knees. I pulled off the condom and shoved my cock down Ines's throat and introduced the head of my cock to her tonsils. Sh started to gag but that didn't stop me I as i started to thrust and pump in and out as I slapped at her left cheek and told her she was nothing but a filthy pig (cochina sucio). The poor girls eyes were almost bulging out and was in tears but she took it all the while gaging at times. I then pulled out and again pulled her head back by her hair gushed a load of spunk onto her face and open mouth I then shoved my balls into her mouth just for good measure and told her suck as I slapped her cum soaked face with my cock.
I let go of Ines and I collapsed backward onto the bed and just lay there for a few seconds leaving Ines still on her knees now coughing up a bit. Then Ines slowly got up and sat down on bed at first with her head down then she lay back next to me. I asked her if she was OK but just tilted her messed up cum face toward me and looked at me. Then to my surprise she smile and said she LOVED what I had just done to her and rolled over to me and kissed my cheek with my cum still on her lips then snuggled next to me fetus styled (totally unexpected and somewhat weird scene at this point). We just lay there resting for about 5 minutes then came the customary "times up" knock on the door.
Ines and I cleaned up separately this time in the shower, her first. I watched her wash my cock milk from her face and we couldn't stop laughing about it. I then thought to myself, how about that, the girl likes being treated like a ****. I think many conservative girls want that type of treatment every now and then as well.
We met up with Diana and my buddy outside the hotel and after some niceties my friend and I left.
I wasn't able to get a contact number for Ines because she didn't have a cell phone or home phone but Ines said I could contact her through Diana. Well, move this story up to last month when I ran into Diana again (where else but at Calle 53) and Diana said that Ines worked the street for about six months but then her boyfriend was released from jail and when he found out about her whoring, he beat her up real bad and she hadn't seen her since. Poor girl, but I hope he's taking care of her, I mean after all, he did keep her off the streets while he was around.
Cheers,
Cubanut
BTW- Again, sorry for the covered face but I had promised Ines I would not show her picture to anyone else so at least I can keep part of that promise.
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Just go to any bookstore and buy a map.
I did and I found my way around the city easy.
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Dirty Diana
Cuba,
Never ever had a falling out with Diana, just to many girls in Medellin mate.
Aussie Greg
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Gents,
Today I came across this one and only picture I have of a girl named Ines (pronounced ee-ness) that I met last year. I remembered how much fun it was being with her so I thought I would relate the story of her and I to you all. Like I said, this was about year ago but it is still fresh in my mind.
I had taken a friend of mine to Parque Botero and then to Conjenitos strip bar which is across the street from the park. We both sessioned with girls at Conjenitos then went to grab a bite to eat a block away at a rotisserie chicken place. While there I metioned that we were just a few blocks from Calle 53 and although we had just recently had a session that it was worth checking out.
Now many of you know about Calle 53 but for those who don't it is simply a street area where cheap hookers hang out. It is safe during the afternoon and into early evening but I don't recommend walking around the area come nightfall. There are many drug sellers and addicts as well in the area so even during the day it is wise to keep your guard up.
So we walked over to Calle 53 and we turn the corner and my friend Dirty Diana is there. Diana is a girl I met a the year before and had taken to the Mansion. She was so good looking that when Greg met her she became a Mansion regular airport pickup girl. She has been a favorite amongst many a Mansion guest with some even taking her to vacation at San Andres. She did her first strip show at the Mansion soon after introducing her to Greg and went on to do dildo and lesbian shows. She had a bit of a falling out with the Mansion though and her she was again at Calle 53.
So after many hugs and kisses and catching up with Diana she tells me she wants me to meet a friend of hers and goes by the door way of hotel and pulls out a pretty girl. While she's doing this my buddy tells me he thinks he'd like to give Diana a go but is afraid that he may not be able to shoot so soon. I tell him that Diana could make a dead horse shoot a last time (she is that good).
Diana comes back with the girl in tow and introduces her to us as Ines. She has an innocent face and a forced smile on her face but is pleasant enough. Her curly long hair was pulled back and she was wearing a loose fitting jump suit outfit that didn't allow one to know what shape her upper body was in. Diana goes on to say that this is Ines's first time on the street and that she just turned 18. She says she had been living with boyfriend for 2 years but he had recently been locked up for a robbery and now she had no one to care for her and had rent to pay and food to buy so her she was. Diana asked if I could "help her out".
Well, Ines was pretty enough but when I asked her how many men she had been with she said 1 and that had been her boyfriend. "1"? I asked her to be honest with me and she smiled and held up her index finger and repeated that her boyfriend had been the only man she had ever been with.
I started to think that maybe Ines would not be that well versed in sex since being with only one man in her life. On top of this, it being her first time with someone else for money may not turn out good. I say this because many times at Mayorista I have found that many of the young girls are inexperienced at sex and is why they just aren't very good at it. That's why you have to go through so many to find a good one.
Since my buddy wanted to sesson with Diana I decided to give Ines a try. I asked Diana what the rate was for both and she said $40,000 cop for half hour, hotel included. This amazed me that Diana was out her basically asking $30,000 cop still (just as when I first met her) after making $80,000 to $200,000 for sessions back at the Mansion. However, my buddy thinks half hour us too short a time and the girls agree to $60,000 for an hour, hotel included.
So my buddy takes Diana and I take Ines up the stairs of the hotel we were in front of. once inside Ines and I sit on the bed and talk a few minutes. I ask her if she likes sex and she says she does. I tell her how I prefer girlfriend like sex (GFE) and she says that's ll she knows how to do. We laugh and she starts to take off her clothes. My jaw almost dropped when I saw the beautiful body that the loose fitting jumpsuit had been hiding. Her natural tits were large for her frame and I asked her if she had ever had a baby to which she said no. Her nipples were so cute because they were pink and come to a point and faced opposite directs instead of straight ahead. The rest of her body just as perfect and shapely. I grabbed my camera and Ines immediately said no to any pictures but I talked her into one but with panties on. That was good enough for me.
Ines and I then jumped into the shower together and washed each others bodies. After rinsing off the soap, we stood under the warm water and I reminded her about the GFE sex I had mentioned before. She just smiled, nodded and proceeded to embrace me and started to kiss my chest and kiss and caress my nipples with her tongue and mouth. She then dropped to one knee and lifted my slowly hardening cock and licked and sucked at my nut sack a minute before introducing the head of my now stiffened cock to her mouth and tongue. This was the GFE that we mongers covet so much and I was enjoying the crap out of it. Ines stayed down there for about five minutes before she suggested we hit the bed. So we dried off and did so.
In bed, Ines released the clip from her hair and revealed how full, long and curly her hair was. With her hair loose, she suddenly became a work of art as she lied down on her back. I then climbed atop of Ines and to my surprise it was Ines who initiated kissing and Frenching. She did lots of tongue thrusting and sucking all the while roaming her hands up and don my back and at times placing a hand behind my head and gently pulling me to her face for more kissing action.
It was at this time that I was glad my buddy had insisted on doing an hour instead of half so this would not be a rushed session. Ines was definately racking up points in the Cubanut storybook of best love makers.
I had not yet tasted or even kissed Ines's firm breasts so I slowly pulled away from her mouth and started to caress her beautiful tits and then kissed and licked and played with each one. Ines would giggle and laugh as she was ticklish, which added to the fun. I then headed south to her shaved mound and proceeded to taste and sample one of the finest fruits Colombia had to offer. She was delicious, enough said.
Although the oral sex was bareback, Ines insisted on covered sex. So I slapped a Crown on and started missionary style then moved onto cowgirl. All the while, Ines's body was in a sexy romantic rhythm which only lacked music. Her steady bodily moves and light groans of pleasure matched mine to a tee. I gazed and groped at her wondrous orbs as she grasped my hands to squeeze them even harder. She was a true delight.
I looked up at Ines and our eyes met and I asked her what type of sex she liked. She said just like this but.... she knew that she entered into the world of prostitution and did not expect every John to be like me. I was a bit confused and she explained that Diana had told her that some guys (Colombians I assume she meant) might get a little rough so be expecting it. I asked her if her boyfriend had ever gotten rough with her and she said no.
I pulled out Ines and we lay side by side and caressed her innocent face. I told her that Diana was right and to expect at times a guy will go at it in not so nice a way. Then she asked me something I did not expect, "Will you show me"? "Show you what"? I asked back. Ines then proceeded to ask me to show her how rough sex could be. I laughed and asked her if she was serious and she said yes. I sat up and so did she and I asked how rough. She said she didn't want to be hurt but just show her rough sex so she knew somewhat what to expect.
So I agreed to show Ines what I thought was my idea rough sex and reached out to caress her face with my hand and we both smiled. I then slowly reach behind her and grab a clump of her hair and PULLED her head backwards suddenly into the pillow. She shrieked a bit as I did but I then shoved my hand onto her mouth as to shut her up and grabbed at her faced and shoved two fingers into her mouth and commanded her to suck on them. She complied and with my left hand I squeezed her right tit and then bent down and started biting on her breasts and nipples. A groan of displeasure would come from Ines's mouth but I paid it no mind. I then went down to her pussy and shoved two fingers inside her and worked her furiously and at the same time was now alternately gropping and biting and sucking on both tits. I then shoved the two fingers deep inside Ines's mouth and told her she was Puta ****. I then jumped off the bed and turned her over onto her stomach then pulled her up to me. I then shoved my cock inside her doggy style and grabbed at her curly hair and yanked head head back hard again causing uncomfortable moans from her. I rammed hard into her (I was enjoying this as well) and telling her she was nothing more than a *****. I then shoved her head onto the bed and while still inside her from behind I put my right foot onto the bed then onto the right side of her face (a first for me as well). Although it was a tough position for me, I gave it all I had and just kept ramming into her and then I started slapping her ass cheeks and kept slapping at them till they were tomato red. I could feel a surge of cum stirring in my nut sack and so I pulled out and pulled Ines off the bed by her hair and forced her to her knees. I pulled off the condom and shoved my cock down Ines's throat and introduced the head of my cock to her tonsils. Sh started to gag but that didn't stop me I as i started to thrust and pump in and out as I slapped at her left cheek and told her she was nothing but a filthy pig (cochina sucio). The poor girls eyes were almost bulging out and was in tears but she took it all the while gaging at times. I then pulled out and again pulled her head back by her hair gushed a load of spunk onto her face and open mouth I then shoved my balls into her mouth just for good measure and told her suck as I slapped her cum soaked face with my cock.
I let go of Ines and I collapsed backward onto the bed and just lay there for a few seconds leaving Ines still on her knees now coughing up a bit. Then Ines slowly got up and sat down on bed at first with her head down then she lay back next to me. I asked her if she was OK but just tilted her messed up cum face toward me and looked at me. Then to my surprise she smile and said she LOVED what I had just done to her and rolled over to me and kissed my cheek with my cum still on her lips then snuggled next to me fetus styled (totally unexpected and somewhat weird scene at this point). We just lay there resting for about 5 minutes then came the customary "times up" knock on the door.
Ines and I cleaned up separately this time in the shower, her first. I watched her wash my cock milk from her face and we couldn't stop laughing about it. I then thought to myself, how about that, the girl likes being treated like a ****. I think many conservative girls want that type of treatment every now and then as well.
We met up with Diana and my buddy outside the hotel and after some niceties my friend and I left.
I wasn't able to get a contact number for Ines because she didn't have a cell phone or home phone but Ines said I could contact her through Diana. Well, move this story up to last month when I ran into Diana again (where else but at Calle 53) and Diana said that Ines worked the street for about six months but then her boyfriend was released from jail and when he found out about her whoring, he beat her up real bad and she hadn't seen her since. Poor girl, but I hope he's taking care of her, I mean after all, he did keep her off the streets while he was around.
Cheers,
Cubanut
BTW- Again, sorry for the covered face but I had promised Ines I would not show her picture to anyone else so at least I can keep part of that promise.
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Damn!
I innocently come over here to kill some time and find THAT Cubanut report! Damn, man! Don't you know I'm here stuck and freezing in Chicago?
You are killing me!
Please get all phone numbers, drop me a PM when you get back. I'm due back in Medellin June 23 through August 14, so I'm guessing I'll see "dirty" Diana" again, and Ines, I hope!
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[QUOTE=Cubanut]Gents,
Today I came across this one and only picture I have of a girl named Ines (pronounced ee-ness) that I met last year. I remembered how much fun it was being with her so I thought I would relate the story of her and I to you all. Like I said, this was about year ago but it is still fresh in my mind.[/quote]Great story, to bad you have to cover that fine chicas face but I understand why.
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Medellin Dentists
Mates,
I want to get some dental work done while on holiday. Can anybody recommend a good Dentists that they have used and were VERY satisfied with the work?
Thanks in advance.
Seal
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For Madd Love
[QUOTE=Madd Love]Thanks for the pics but you don't use condoms?[/QUOTE]You noticed?
I'm a BB lover.
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An hour with Eliana at Kamasutra
I arrived early at Medellin that day and decided to go hunting at the casas in the centro.
I wanted to check first Estambul (Calle 49 43-68) that I had visited earlier this month with JChipper. We had seen a very nice girl that day and I was interested to "try" her.
When I arrived, the casa’s keeper told me that he had 6 available girls at the moment and that the show’s cost is 3000K if I don’t take a girl. For an unknown reason I agreed to that. I mean that on a normal day I would have walk out immediately and refuse to pay for the presentation.
During the presentation I only saw fatties. The cute girl I had seen with JChipper was not there and I decided to leave Estambul. I paid the guy and told him that the neighbourhood was full of casas with no presentation fee.
Next stop was Masajistas paisas (Calle 53 42-56), next door from Kamasutra. When I entered the place, I was received by an old woman who drove me to a presentation room. I remembered her from a precedent visit as a very unpleasant woman, as she refuses to let me talk to the girls. The show started and I saw 3 cuties. I asked the old lady to talk with the smiling cutie and she refused telling me that I had to speak everything with her. I told her that as I won’t go with her, I want first to see if there is some possible "relation" with the girl. The old ladies insisted that everything had to be discussed with her. I stood up quite angry and told her that if it was like that I would go to another casa where the "guests" are better treated.
I walked out and enter next door at Kamasutra (Calle 53 42-74).
I was received by the Gay guy who drove me to a couch and calls the girls to start the show.
I saw 4 cuties! Kamasutra regularly has slim nice girls.
I asked to speak with a nice "blond" very cute. It took me 3 minutes to see that I didn’t want to go with her. We had no chemical in common and she refused all 3 extras I was asking for: DATY, BBBJ + pictures.
The place keeper thought I would leave and he had no problem with that (no fee), but I asked him to call one of the other girls I had seen before.
That one had a better attitude with me being friendly, and smiling a lot. She uses the name of Eliana and she agreed to all my 3 extras. We negotiate the extra for 10K and decided to go to the room. Unfortunately, all the rooms were busy at that moment. They explained me that I would have to wait for 30 minutes in order to have a free room. As Eliana had been so nice, I decided to wait.
30 minutes later, a customer walked out and we could get in 3 minutes later. We had booked 60 minutes for 40K and started immediately with pictures. She would take no chance to have her face on a picture and would use a towel to hide her face from the camera all the time.
After very few pictures (less than 10) she told me that it was enough and that we should start the relation.
We then had the DATY and the BBBJ and everything went very well.
I tried to convince her to go BB but she was not willing to do so (even for a tip) and I was feeling very well and knew I would have no problem to come.
At one moment, she told me she wanted to make some pictures of me! Why not, good idea.
I explained her how to use my camera and she made some nice shots.
I even told her for the movie capacity of the camera and she filmed me liking her pussy!
That’s a great souvenir for me.
We made several positions and she was good in the sack.
After a while at that, I couldn’t control it anymore and I easily reached climax.
After a short shower we had a rest and talked a little bit.
Eliana is preparing her future and is studying accounting.
She is just starting it so it will take her long before she can stop sucking dicks for money.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Belmont]Google earthis hardly a good map! I looked.
I'd like to find one also!
Anyone found a PDF or similar?
Thanks,
Belmont[/QUOTE]Try enabling the roads.
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[QUOTE=Seal85]Mates,
I want to get some dental work done while on holiday. Can anybody recommend a good Dentists that they have used and were VERY satisfied with the work?
Thanks in advance.
Seal[/QUOTE]I have been using [url]http://www.sonria.com.co/home.htm[/url] for about 4 years now. I used the location on San Martin in Cartagena for 3 years and the one on la 70 in Medellín for the last year. They did two root canals, 3 crowns, a few cavities, and some gum work. I was very pleased with everything.
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Outstanding blast from the past, C-nut
Your reports and chicas are the best.
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Masajistas paisas is a difficult place. I went there with Boyd from the mansion. We were let in by the other woman working there who didn't know he was banned. He is sort of banned from there for a past incident where a guy he was with met a chica outside of working hours or something. So we sat there and she wouldn't let any chicas see us. so we left.
The woman there likes to control the chicas. She probably thought you were going to try and srt something up and she wasn't going to make any money.
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Medellin Dentists
[QUOTE=Tom 33]I have been using [url]http://www.sonria.com.co/home.htm[/url] for about 4 years now. I used the location on San Martin in Cartagena for 3 years and the one on la 70 in Medellín for the last year. They did two root canals, 3 crowns, a few cavities, and some gum work. I was very pleased with everything.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info mate!
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A TLN with Camila
After my meeting with Eliana earlier in the day, I was still feeling horny, so I called Camila, Karen’s friend to ask her if she could stay all night long with me.
She was glad I call and said yes but as she is working till 10pm she can’t get out earlier.
We decided to meet in front of the Botero’s café at 10:30pm.
It was still early and I was in the centre, so I decided to go to the strip show meanwhile.
I entered several but decided to stay at Americas in the Maracaibo’s street.
It was Friday night and there were a lot of actions going on.
I sat on a free table and enjoy the shows looking to the cuties and the fatties.
A girl was already seated at my table and she start to talk with me.
She was nice and I accepted to pay her a drink (4K).
As the place is quite noisy, she moved and came close to me to talk and to take care of my best friend.
Her name was Leonela and she explained me that she is a regular girl form the Sonorama strip club (Calle 52, la playa, 49-72) but, as the place was temporarily closed for rehabilitation work, she had decided to come at America’s bar tonight.
She proposed me to stay all night long for 100K.
When I explained her that I had a date with a BBFS performer, she agreed to do so !!!
I then told her that she was also a 3 holes performer (untrue), and Leonela told me that she had never done it but she was willing to try with me.
Well, to make a long story short, she was desperate to go with me and was saying ok to everything.
Of course, I know that those promises are easy to do but harder to respect.
I told her that I really couldn’t go with her tonight but that I would return next week and was definitely willing to try her.
She gave me her phone number and proposed to give me a quick blow.
Once again, I had to decline the offer even if I was really interested, but as I’m not Superman I wouldn’t have been able to resist to Leonela and would have screw her after the BBBJ and then, how would I have done with Camila ?
So I decided to remain calm and to reserve my milk for Camila.
Around 10:15pm I stood up with a hard dick, gave a kiss to Leonela and left the place.
Camila arrived in taxi at the meeting point (almost on time), and we decided to go directly to my hotel (Casa Medellin).
Once in the room, Camila told me she wanted to see the pictures I took from our last meeting. I said ok and after seeing the shower movie, she was upset and wanted me to delete them. I told her no way. Problem is that some “clever” guys still pictures and post them on a local Spanish forum.
You can imagine the fear for those girls.
I explained her once again that the pictures are well hidden, but we both knew that they were not safely hidden. I really hope that no one will ruin their life just to be a “hero” as Cubanut called them.
Unfortunately she was very decided not to let me take any picture or movie that night.
If I repeat her I’ll have to explain her that it goes with pictures or there will be no deal.
Well, what can I say about her service ?
She is really a very good performer and only says no to anal.
That time she even didn’t took Condom with her.
We made love till 2am and I came very strongly.
Did she also came ? I don’t know as she didn’t want to tell me. She explained that she was feeling bad to come with a customer and that even if he was a very good performer she always try not to come. She does that to “respect” her boy friend !!!
I gave her a very long and strong DATY and she was trying to resist but I guess that she had a little orgasm.
We made all the classical positions and everything went nicely with a lot of DFK.
I was trying to get close from her ass while in action and she told me that she only gave it to her boy friend. I told her that I was very jealous and that I wanted it too, I think I may if I repeat her.
After my orgasm, we fell asleep, and as Casa Medellin is well hidden, we had no noise till next morning.
I woke up around 7am and got close to Camilla to have my early fuck.
We did it again, and once again I had a real great time and was able to screw without pill. I think that our morning session last maybe 90 minutes, and we then showered, got dressed and had our breakfast.
I gave her 150K + 20 for the cab. I paid my room (180K for one night) and as advertised, I paid nothing for my girl, not even the breakfast or the soda she had from the fridge.
We left the place together with a taxi that left me at the Olaya’s Airport and followed his route till Camila’s home.
I strongly recommend her.
Send me a PM if interested with her phone number.
Cheers
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Pics of Guatape
These were last week we sure did have a good time.
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[QUOTE=Far Medellin]These were last week we sure did have a good time.[/QUOTE]Nice scenery!
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My flight from Manizales was into the downtown Olaya Herrera airport, much better than the international airport both in time and taxi fare saved. When you're on the way out make sure the taxi driver knows for sure which one to go to. For my flight to Bogota the guy insisted I must want to go to Rio Negro (gringo=international flight? ). After a several minutes argument he finally got it.
Hotels:
For my first visit 2 years ago I had a thoroughly good time at the Mansion. This time I dropped in and talked to Robert, but sadly both the Mansion and Castillo were booked out for over a week.
So I decided to go with hotels. I decided to go with Leblon Suites. It was about 170, 000 including taxes and a smallish buffet breakfast. Wireless internet and business center computers are available without charge. There's no pool or gym. The rooms are comfortable, spacious and bright, usually with a balcony. Bringing guests apparently incurs an extra charge. But since I pointed out at the front desk that they didn't tell me about this in advance or when I brought a girl they didn't add the charge for me. The hotel is sort of tucked behind a shopping center. If you enter by taxi it's a bit convoluted getting up to the entrance.
Leblon Suites was full for my last two days, so I moved over the San Fernando Plaza. It's a new 5 star place, about a block over from Leblon Suites. Here it was 254, 000 for a night, taxes included. The breakfast buffet here is fairly complete. There's a nice pool and a decent gym. I didn't have any trouble bring girls back here, just walked through the lobby together. I would hate to try it with a street walker though.
These hotel rates were all just from walking up, not in advance and no corporate rate. Thanks to Col Blog for the info on these places.
The weather was absolute crap while I was here. It rained almost every day and for large parts of each day. Luckily the one Saturday night I was here was nice. But the weather really doused the night life and there wasn't much to be seen in the malls either.
I spent lots of time here with girls I knew before from my first visit. One who was conservative before had loosened up a bit. Thank you Father Time. We went to the disco in Parque Lleras with the blue sign (forgot the name). I knew by her bumping and grinding dancing that it was going to be a good night.
I also dropped into the A Foreign Affair introduction agency. I'm involved with a group that's trying to get a feminist law struck down that over regulates these kinds of places. For information gathering about how this law is applied I got an introduction to one of the girls. It didn't go real well. She didn't really want to be there and it showed. I guess they get a cut or something just for showing up. One introduction costs $50. I doubt it's worth it very often.
I also made the obligatory trip to Loutron, not knowing that they are in a new location since 2 years ago. It's a longer ride but not too far. The selection was quite disappointing, only 5 girls total on a late weekday afternoon. I went ahead and chose Sofia, a tallish blond. She did ok in her massage and blow job and on the whole I was satisfied. But for 170, 000 I question the value for price, especially considering that the same thing is available in Cali for a third or a fourth of the price.
I also tried San Diego Grill and Face Dos. San Diego had absolutely nothing I was interested in. Face Dos had ok quality, but I would have hoped for better given the drink and entry prices. Medellin has definitely gone to the top of the charts in travel and mongering costs, except maybe compared to Cartagena, which I haven't been to for a while.
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[QUOTE=Mahku]Medellin has definitely gone to the top of the charts in travel and mongering costs, except maybe compared to Cartagena, which I haven't been to for a while.[/QUOTE]Cartagena is generally the most expensive city in Colombia. Medellín can be expensive when you go to Loutron and 5-star hotels. There are many hotels in the 100-120K range. There are very many casas in the 40-80K range. There are lots of street girls in the 20-40K range.
Cali is dangerous even for Caleños. Unemployment is high and prices are low. You could get an even better deal in Buenaventura.
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Loutron Deception
Greetings from Medellín,
On my last evening in the city (2 days trip) gave Loutron a try. Arrived on a Saturday at 9pm and was not granted access to the club. Guests are allegedly let in untill 8pm. Open end for leaving. I did my homework and RTFF but unfortunately couldn't enjoy. A very embarrassing experience due to the morons who wright a lot of dumb porn and miss to give the essential information.
Please give the coordinates in SPACE and TIME, gentlemen!
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Loutron
Dude,
Loutron is open till 10:30pm. I arrived at 945pm and was allowed in, "open end for leaving". The place looked like it was shutting down. The cute girls in the blue pants were doing the day's cash count ect.
The operation at Lutron is probably 11am to 11pm. I did run into something as I was ordering take out. I was told the girls only go to hotels for delivery, but when I mentioned my name, they said "ok "for an apartment. Perhaps there's been some change in policy or something. The price is 175K for hour treatment.
The best time to go is after 6pm. The line up was full, almost 8-10 girls. They have a Juccuzzi, and they will fill it with two hour notice. I didn't ask about the price. The girls are always top quality ect.
Sorry about the bad experience. Did you go to the right place?
Calle 12 sur no 10-245 Tel:4444204, 321-4490 Loma Los Balsos
[QUOTE=Adimondo]Greetings from Medellín,
On my last evening in the city (2 days trip) gave Loutron a try. Arrived on a Saturday at 9pm and was not granted access to the club. Guests are allegedly let in untill 8pm. Open end for leaving. I did my homework and RTFF but unfortunately couldn't enjoy. A very embarrassing experience due to the morons who wright a lot of dumb porn and miss to give the essential information.
Please give the coordinates in SPACE and TIME, gentlemen![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Adimondo]Greetings from Medellín,
On my last evening in the city (2 days trip) gave Loutron a try. Arrived on a Saturday at 9pm and was not granted access to the club. Guests are allegedly let in untill 8pm. Open end for leaving. I did my homework and RTFF but unfortunately couldn't enjoy. A very embarrassing experience due to the morons who wright a lot of dumb porn and miss to give the essential information.
Please give the coordinates in SPACE and TIME, gentlemen![/QUOTE]Most casas in MDE close shop at around 8 pm. Please remember this for future reference.
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Heres a story about 2 years ago at ave maria my friend and I were having a conversation with a hostess and it led to why gringos are coming to Medellin and she simply said "they are here for sex"
Another time at trida while I was going to meet a friend alone the hostess asked if I was staying at the "mansion". I tiold her in spnish what, where, and she said never mind.
The word is out. People talk and its kinda apparent when 3 or 4 guys walk into park illares with girls in their teens, dressed like "prepagos" also our own behavior leads to these labels, I have seen many gringos walking around park illares chasing after women litterally this dude took off running, it was funny to see but people where staring. Again normal colombian men can do the same thing but we are the visitors and outsiders.[/QUOTE]Okay, here's a question for everyone where I'm sure all have an opinion on:
Is it really well known to Colombians in Medellin that gringos frequent the city for mongering? The majority of clients for prepagos clearly must be Colombian men so is this just a situation where gringos stand out because they often look like a foreigner, I. E. , they are not latinos?
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[QUOTE=Tom Cruze]Is it really well known to Colombians in Medellin that gringos frequent the city for mongering? The majority of clients for prepagos clearly must be Colombian men so is this just a situation where gringos stand out because they often look like a foreigner, I. E. , they are not latinos?[/QUOTE]In Medellín, I do not think that Colombians in general have any idea of why Gringos visit. Outside of Poblado, there simply aren't that many extranjeros of any stripe.
Of course if you hang around puterias, you will think differently.
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[QUOTE=Adimondo]On my last evening in the city (2 days trip) gave Loutron a try. Arrived on a Saturday at 9pm and was not granted access to the club. Guests are allegedly let in untill 8pm. Open end for leaving. I did my homework and RTFF but unfortunately couldn't enjoy. A very embarrassing experience due to the morons who wright a lot of dumb porn and miss to give the essential information.
Please give the coordinates in SPACE and TIME, gentlemen![/QUOTE]This is Colombia. The fact is, the times are not precise.
My info is a couple of years old, as I no longer go to Loutron. I understand that the last time for sessioning is 10pm so that you're out the door at 11pm or so.
But on a Saturday it's probably a different dynamic. Groups of guys may order chicks to a party, and the girls may want to leave strictly on time because they have something fun to do.
I wouldn't say "no entry after 8pm" is a hard and fast rule. It depends who you are and if they have girls available.
I agree with the other comments that Loutron is a daytime casa. If you come right at closing time on a Saturday, you risk disappointment due to all the girls being occupied by other horny guys.
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Reputation of Gringos in Colombia
[QUOTE=Tom 33]In Medellín, I do not think that Colombians in general have any idea of why Gringos visit. Outside of Poblado, there simply aren't that many extranjeros of any stripe.
Of course if you hang around puterias, you will think differently.[/QUOTE]I am new to the forum, but I have observed that Tom 33 has a lot of experience in Colombia and is a great source of reliable information about Colombia. However, I am going to offer a contrary opinion in this particular context.
Colombians love to gossip. Colombians especially love to gossip about Gringos.
Furthermore, Americans often give others the benefit of the doubt until they have reason to believe otherwise. Colombians generally take the opposite approach. In Colombia, you are guilty until proven innocent. Colombians will assume the worst about "desconocidos" (Colombian or American or whatever) until they have justification for a greater level of trust. When in Colombia, I would recommend that Americans and Europeans follow the Colombian approach. When in Rome.
Colombians know that most foreign men in Colombia are there for one and only one reason. Colombians know that foreign men travel to Colombia for the women. Think about it. Why else would foreign men travel to Colombia?
That's why I travel to Colombia. Isn't that why we all travel to Colombia? It is common knowledge in Colombia that foreign men travel to Colombia for the women.
And all of this leads to one recommendation for those that aspire to meeting and dating more than just prepagos and prostitutes. If you want to meet and date "normal" women, then you should concoct a legitimate and verifiable pretext for being in Colombia. Some possible examples would include studying Spanish at a Colombian university, researching import-export opportunities in Colombia, investing in Colombian real estate, etc.
Never tell Colombian women that you are "on vacation" in Colombia.
Women (Colombian or American or whatever) prefer men that are not hunting women.
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Prime example
Outside of poblado you dont see many gringos, those you do often are low key guests visitors and gringos who are smart! but i think the sex issue is a major factor its my personal opinion. but when you hardly speak a word of spanish and are living in colombia full time, and hitting on or have a young attractive girl on your arm, what are locals supposed to think?What would you think, lets be honest and live in reality gringos are here for sex, not the good food, or the beggers on the street or the smog the cloggs your sinus passage, its the women. 60 year olds date 20 year olds becuase we have money security ect.
[QUOTE=Tom Cruze]Okay, here's a question for everyone where I'm sure all have an opinion on:
Is it really well known to Colombians in Medellin that gringos frequent the city for mongering? The majority of clients for prepagos clearly must be Colombian men so is this just a situation where gringos stand out because they often look like a foreigner, I. E. , they are not latinos?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mahku]So I decided to go with hotels. I decided to go with Leblon Suites. It was about 170, 000 including taxes and a smallish buffet breakfast. Wireless internet and business center computers are available without charge. There's no pool or gym. The rooms are comfortable, spacious and bright, usually with a balcony. Bringing guests apparently incurs an extra charge. But since I pointed out at the front desk that they didn't tell me about this in advance or when I brought a girl they didn't add the charge for me. The hotel is sort of tucked behind a shopping center. If you enter by taxi it's a bit convoluted getting up to the entrance.
Leblon Suites was full for my last two days, so I moved over the San Fernando Plaza. It's a new 5 star place, about a block over from Leblon Suites. Here it was 254, 000 for a night, taxes included. The breakfast buffet here is fairly complete. There's a nice pool and a decent gym. I didn't have any trouble bring girls back here, just walked through the lobby together. I would hate to try it with a street walker though.
These hotel rates were all just from walking up, not in advance and no corporate rate. [B]Thanks to Col Blog for the info on these places.[/B][/QUOTE]Hi Mahku.
I'm so glad to know that someone read my hotels report and found them usefull!
Thanks to share.
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40 minutes with Pamela at La barra ejecutiva
Wednesday night in Medellin.
After registering at the Hotel Leblon suites, I call Leonela, the girl I met a week ago while I was waiting for Camila. That girl had lighted me very strongly and I want to see if she’ll be as good as she said she would be.
I call her and she is back to her beloved strip place: Sonorama (Calle 52 La Playa 49-72). I remind her all her promises and she tells me that as it is the first time with her she has to know me first, before going BB. But she asks me to go and speak with her.
I said ok, but I knew already that something was broken.
I jumped on a taxi and 7K later I arrived at Sonorama.
Once inside a fatty comes close and want me to seat with her, at the same moment Leonela arrives and we seat together while the fatty goes back to her seat. We kiss but instead of the warm girl, I found her quite and cold with me.
We both sat on the same table, but the table is between us. Leonela immediately asks for a drink (4K), hate that!
After 5 minutes, I’m getting bored as she says nothing and doesn’t touch me neither. I have the strong feeling that I’m loosing my time.
I try to speak with her but her mind is fixed on something else and she even doesn’t answer me.
After 5 more minutes, I stand up and leave Sonorama.
My plans are ruined and I wonder where to go now.
I first visit the street girls of the De Grieff avenue, but as it is already late, there are not many available girls and I quickly go back.
There are several strip girl on the De Grieff avenue but none of them has the kind of girl I am looking for (slim and small). I go back to the Maracaibo street and visit the strip club there but again, nothing attract my interest.
Finally, I enter La barra ejecutiva and immediately notice the kind of girl I was looking for.
I call her, her name is Pamela and she is a cute small doll.
We speak a little bit and she seems ok.
After a short time, we speak business and she agrees to pictures, DATY and BBBJ for 40K +10K tip + 10K for the room, time: 40 minutes.
I said let’s go.
She takes her purse and we go to a bad room with no window and a very small and bad bathroom with only cold water.
The pictures session is very short as she is not willing to play the model.
She then blow me BB but very shortly and then take the condom and in no time put it on my best friend and ask me to do her.
I say ok and there we go, Missionary, Doggy, Missionary again, and I’m lucky enough to come after a reasonable time.
Pamela immediately rushes to the shower, got dressed and go back to the strip room.
I still don’t understand what happened.
She behaves like a street girl.
Too bad!
I have made a very short movie from my meeting with Pamela.
2008-03-05_Mde-PamelaBarraEjecutiva.avi
Size : 3,6Mo
Length : 0’20”
Quality : Bad, I even thought deleting it.
[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK784347da0cb39b440[/url]
Cheers
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Loutron visit
[QUOTE=Adimondo]Greetings from Medellín,
On my last evening in the city (2 days trip) gave Loutron a try. Arrived on a Saturday at 9pm and was not granted access to the club. Guests are allegedly let in untill 8pm. Open end for leaving. I did my homework and RTFF but unfortunately couldn't enjoy. A very embarrassing experience due to the morons who wright a lot of dumb porn and miss to give the essential information.
Please give the coordinates in SPACE and TIME, gentlemen![/QUOTE]Adimondo,
Apparently you didn't do enough homework or did not go back far enough. Awhile back on my first visit to Medellin (about 3 years ago and at the time it was the old Loutron) I had mentioned that my first night arriving was on a Friday and BEFORE we went to Loutron at 9:30 that Greg had CALLED FIRST to see how many girls were available.
Also, I'm not a big fan of Loutron but I think even back then the Saturday hours were different from the weekdays (they close earlier) and I'm sure someone must have mentioned this in a report.
So, If planning to go to Loutron late night, I would combine the two and CALL FIRST to check 1. How many girls are available. 2. What time will the last clients be welcomed in. Tel: 444-4204 or 321-4490.
Cheers,
Cubanut
BTW- I've posted this girl before but this was my first Colombiana/Loutron girl that night when Greg had called was told that 7 girls were available.
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Medellin during easter week
Hello guys,
I was thinking of going to Medellin next week from Thursday to Sunday, however I was wondering if it is really worth it to go there during easter week considering than in many places of latin america most places are closed during those days.
So, I would like your opinion from you guys that live there or have travelled during easter vacation there. Are casas, nightclubs, restaurants, shopping malls, open during those days?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Cheers
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Medellin in Easter Week
Hello guys,
I am thinking of going to Medellin next week from thursay to Sunday. However, I am not sure if that would be a good idea considering that most latin american countries close everything during those days so I was wondering if any of you guys who live there or have travelled during those days can give me your opinions about it. Are nightclubs, casas, shopping malls, restaurants, etc closed during those days?
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Love Potion #9
Client number 9 said it pretty well, lets get really as to why men from other countries come to Colombia, also lets get even more real then that and live in the NOW. We come to Colombia not just becuase there are no pretty girls in our own countries but becuase we can actually have sex with these women for a PRICE! (which is cheap compared to our own countries). I also agree about the "fantasy" of dating nonpros, or smipros or normal girls, and listen to this fact, these women are with us for money and the security and comfort tthat comes with, don't fool yourself, many colombian women despite having sex with us and being with us will always long for a man of her own culture despite what they say. Remember that and enjoy!
[QUOTE=Client 9]I am new to the forum, but I have observed that Tom 33 has a lot of experience in Colombia and is a great source of reliable information about Colombia. However, I am going to offer a contrary opinion in this particular context.
Colombians love to gossip. Colombians especially love to gossip about Gringos.
Furthermore, Americans often give others the benefit of the doubt until they have reason to believe otherwise. Colombians generally take the opposite approach. In Colombia, you are guilty until proven innocent. Colombians will assume the worst about "desconocidos" (Colombian or American or whatever) until they have justification for a greater level of trust. When in Colombia, I would recommend that Americans and Europeans follow the Colombian approach. When in Rome.
Colombians know that most foreign men in Colombia are there for one and only one reason. Colombians know that foreign men travel to Colombia for the women. Think about it. Why else would foreign men travel to Colombia?
That's why I travel to Colombia. Isn't that why we all travel to Colombia? It is common knowledge in Colombia that foreign men travel to Colombia for the women.
And all of this leads to one recommendation for those that aspire to meeting and dating more than just prepagos and prostitutes. If you want to meet and date "normal" women, then you should concoct a legitimate and verifiable pretext for being in Colombia. Some possible examples would include studying Spanish at a Colombian university, researching import-export opportunities in Colombia, investing in Colombian real estate, etc.
Never tell Colombian women that you are "on vacation" in Colombia.
Women (Colombian or American or whatever) prefer men that are not hunting women.[/QUOTE]
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Terrible idea
The only worse weekend would be Christmas.
[QUOTE=Latincr]Hello guys,
I am thinking of going to Medellin next week from Thursay to Sunday. However, I am not sure if that would be a good idea considering that most latin american countries close everything during those days so I was wondering if any of you guys who live there or have travelled during those days can give me your opinions about it. Are nightclubs, casas, shopping malls, restaurants, etc closed during those days?[/QUOTE]
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The Frugal Traveler in Medellin
As I get closer to booking another trip to MDE, I thought about frequent travelers to Medellin, after checking out airfares on AA last night for $742 r/t!
What the F*&K!
It's time to ask and/or make suggestions for "Frugal Travelers" because it's getting way too expensive to make multiple trips to MDE this year.
Here is my suggestion.
I stayed at [url]http://www.clubvipmedellin.com/accomodations.php[/url] for three nights on my last trip and really liked the whole ambiance.
They have great rooms starting at $40 a night, it doesn't get much more affordable than that in MDE.
Check out the website to see all the amenities included with the room. The staff was great, and breakfast in the kitchen was always a great way to start my mornings in MDE.
I found several Paisa owned hotels that charged $30, but they don't speak English, have wi-fi, Skype, and hot water.
Still, I may book at a Paisa owned outside of El Poblado barrio, I speak fleunt espanol, and want to try out a hotel in another barrio to get a better feel for the Paisa life in barrios like Estadio Barrio.
I'm undecided at the moment but I can not see paying more than $30/40 for a room in Medellin with todays exchange rate.
You have to get the better bang for your buck, especially now that the US greenback is worthless.
I'm looking to book a trip for May in addition to my August trip, which I have AA frequent flyer miles available for my ticket, thank gawd.
You can't beat $40 a night for a great room at ClubVIP Hotel in MDE. Unless you don't mind staying at a Hostel, which private rooms go for about $25 in a nicer establishment.
Any and ALL suggestions, tips, and recommendations welcomed.
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[QUOTE=Traylor Park]As I get closer to booking another trip to MDE, I thought about frequent travelers to Medellin, after checking out airfares on AA last night for $742 r/t!
What the F*&K!
It's time to ask and/or make suggestions for "Frugal Travelers" because it's getting way too expensive to make multiple trips to MDE this year.
Here is my suggestion.
I stayed at [url]http://www.clubvipmedellin.com/accomodations.php[/url] for three nights on my last trip and really liked the whole ambiance.
They have great rooms starting at $40 a night, it doesn't get much more affordable than that in MDE.
Check out the website to see all the amenities included with the room. The staff was great, and breakfast in the kitchen was always a great way to start my mornings in MDE.
I found several Paisa owned hotels that charged $30, but they don't speak English, have wi-fi, Skype, and hot water.
Still, I may book at a Paisa owned outside of El Poblado barrio, I speak fleunt espanol, and want to try out a hotel in another barrio to get a better feel for the Paisa life in barrios like Estadio Barrio.
I'm undecided at the moment but I can not see paying more than $30/40 for a room in Medellin with todays exchange rate.
You have to get the better bang for your buck, especially now that the US greenback is worthless.
I'm looking to book a trip for May in addition to my August trip, which I have AA frequent flyer miles available for my ticket, thank gawd.
You can't beat $40 a night for a great room at ClubVIP Hotel in MDE. Unless you don't mind staying at a Hostel, which private rooms go for about $25 in a nicer establishment.
Any and ALL suggestions, tips, and recommendations welcomed.[/QUOTE]Why don't you try renting an apartment. I bet that comes to about $40 or less per night?
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Partly disagree
It´s all a question of age and looks! All other follwows.
So take a look in the mirror and answer yourself if this 20years old spinner loves the 50something fat, bald headed limited spanisch speaking guy.
[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Client number 9 said it pretty well, lets get really as to why men from other countries come to Colombia, also lets get even more real then that and live in the NOW. We come to Colombia not just becuase there are no pretty girls in our own countries but becuase we can actually have sex with these women for a PRICE! (which is cheap compared to our own countries). I also agree about the "fantasy" of dating nonpros, or smipros or normal girls, and listen to this fact, these women are with us for money and the security and comfort tthat comes with, don't fool yourself, many colombian women despite having sex with us and being with us will always long for a man of her own culture despite what they say. Remember that and enjoy![/QUOTE]
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I stayed in VIP for a couple of months when the original owner was there and it is a nice place......but lets get all the facts straight.
VIP is not in Medellin so your statement is not technically correct.
The $40 room has a shared bathroom so you better hope the other guy using it does not eat too many tacos.
In Poblado we pay a lot more taxes than anywhere else which is one of the reasons the prices are higher. Shit, I just had to pay an $800 tax for having a television and a $400 tax for having a kitchen.
VIP is also for sale so I would not book too far in advance. It is listed at 1.84 million dollars if anyone is interested.
I call every hotel in Poblado on a daily bases to get their prices. A typical room is $120 USD once iva, insurance and girl fees are added. Walk-in prices are typically $150 to $300 USD. You can expect this to increase in the next 6 months just like it did in Cartagena.
There are a couple of hotels/hostels in Poblado that operate without licences and are not paying taxes. They charge less than the other places since they are not licenced. I was talking to a director from the licencing board about a week ago and he told me that these places are already being watched and will be shut down soon because the large hotels have filed complaints against them. I actually prefer they stay in business since they keep a certain type of people all in one location. But oh well, change is inevitable.
[QUOTE=Traylor Park]I stayed at [url]http://www.clubvipmedellin.com/accomodations.php[/url] for three nights on my last trip and really liked the whole ambiance.
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[QUOTE=Traylor Park]As I get closer to booking another trip to MDE, I thought about frequent travelers to Medellin, after checking out airfares on AA last night for $742 r/t!
What the F*&K!
It's time to ask and/or make suggestions for "Frugal Travelers" because it's getting way too expensive to make multiple trips to MDE this year.
Here is my suggestion.
I stayed at [url]http://www.clubvipmedellin.com/accomodations.php[/url] for three nights on my last trip and really liked the whole ambiance.
They have great rooms starting at $40 a night, it doesn't get much more affordable than that in MDE.
Check out the website to see all the amenities included with the room. The staff was great, and breakfast in the kitchen was always a great way to start my mornings in MDE.
I found several Paisa owned hotels that charged $30, but they don't speak English, have wi-fi, Skype, and hot water.
Still, I may book at a Paisa owned outside of El Poblado barrio, I speak fleunt espanol, and want to try out a hotel in another barrio to get a better feel for the Paisa life in barrios like Estadio Barrio.
I'm undecided at the moment but I can not see paying more than $30/40 for a room in Medellin with todays exchange rate.
You have to get the better bang for your buck, especially now that the US greenback is worthless.
I'm looking to book a trip for May in addition to my August trip, which I have AA frequent flyer miles available for my ticket, thank gawd.
You can't beat $40 a night for a great room at ClubVIP Hotel in MDE. Unless you don't mind staying at a Hostel, which private rooms go for about $25 in a nicer establishment.
Any and ALL suggestions, tips, and recommendations welcomed.[/QUOTE]
Call Avianca.
I'm on Avianca's email list. They constantly send me emails offering nice fares to Col but the messages are always qualified with the following: "Must call for booking about the aforementioned fares."
If I search for the same said fares online, they never appear.
I haven't tested this strategy myself YET, but, all i can tell you is that they are constantly offering me fares that, according to them, are only available by calling them.
My recomendation, call Avianca, just be on guard for the usual hard sell/slam into unnecessary extra charges.
Schwmm
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[QUOTE=Casa Medellin]VIP is not in Medellin so your statement is not technically correct.
The $40 room has a shared bathroom so you better hope the other guy using it does not eat too many tacos.[/QUOTE]Everything is in Medellin to me, I don't fly into Medellin, but when I say I'm flying to Medellin, everyone knows what I'm talking about.
I did not have a shared bathroom, nor was aware of shared bathroom at VIPHotel, but you can't beat $40 for a room in Medllin.
And. NO ONE eats tacos in Medellin.
There are many Paisa-owned hotels who charge $30/40 a night, lovely little casa hotels that have yet to be discovered by the gringo tourists. I've seen 'them with my own eyes on my last two trips. No Hablan Ingles. Not a major obstacle because many travelers speak enough espanol to communicate with the locals.
The traveler who makes frequent trips to Medellin will always be looking to get more "bang for his buck" if he wants to continue making multiple trips each year.
The apartments are a great option of you are travelling with a few friends, but my experience has been, that most people travel solo, then meet up with other gringos on vacation. I travel solo.
I may consider booking a few nights here [url]http://www.hotelalcaravan.com/servicios_ing.htm[/url]
But first, I need to book a flight.
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My last trip I stayed with a friend in Dose De Octubre so it did not directly cost me anything and on the visit before I stayed at Hotel Obolisco (spelling is incorrect...), near Estadio for 40.000 per night. The hotel did not bother me bringing anyone in but when I paid I told them my family would be coming to visit (sister-in-law and cousins, etc (truth)).
The next trip I will be staying about two month starting in may and I plan to be renting an apartment near el centro for anywhere between 300,000 and 800,000 per month.
Good luck in your attempt to see Medellin in a Frugel style but understand the place this (white skinned) gringo goes are the places most are writting about that they fear to tread.
For flying I do not know where you are flying from but IAD - PTY - MDE and back usually costs between $500 & $600 on Copa. Copa is better than AA in my humble opinion, then give bear w/o charge and metal utensils.
[QUOTE=Traylor Park]As I get closer to booking another trip to MDE, I thought about frequent travelers to Medellin, after checking out airfares on AA last night for $742 r/t!
What the F*&K!
It's time to ask and/or make suggestions for "Frugal Travelers" because it's getting way too expensive to make multiple trips to MDE this year.
Here is my suggestion.
I stayed at [url]http://www.clubvipmedellin.com/accomodations.php[/url] for three nights on my last trip and really liked the whole ambiance.
They have great rooms starting at $40 a night, it doesn't get much more affordable than that in MDE.
Check out the website to see all the amenities included with the room. The staff was great, and breakfast in the kitchen was always a great way to start my mornings in MDE.
I found several Paisa owned hotels that charged $30, but they don't speak English, have wi-fi, Skype, and hot water.
Still, I may book at a Paisa owned outside of El Poblado barrio, I speak fleunt espanol, and want to try out a hotel in another barrio to get a better feel for the Paisa life in barrios like Estadio Barrio.
I'm undecided at the moment but I can not see paying more than $30/40 for a room in Medellin with todays exchange rate.
You have to get the better bang for your buck, especially now that the US greenback is worthless.
I'm looking to book a trip for May in addition to my August trip, which I have AA frequent flyer miles available for my ticket, thank gawd.
You can't beat $40 a night for a great room at ClubVIP Hotel in MDE. Unless you don't mind staying at a Hostel, which private rooms go for about $25 in a nicer establishment.
Any and ALL suggestions, tips, and recommendations welcomed.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Malodr]This is spam? Its a paysite![/QUOTE]I contacted a girl who posted her email and she provided her cell and myspace website for pics. We have arranged for 2 hours on Thursday during the day. So far it does not seem like a rip off but I will be cautious.
Have you tried contacting anyone on this site? Any specific issues I should be aware of?
Maybe I'll ask her to meet me at a cafe. If the girl and the pics are the same I'll take her back to my apt.
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[QUOTE=Traylor Park]I did not have a shared bathroom, nor was aware of shared bathroom at VIPHotel, but you can't beat $40 for a room in Medllin.[/QUOTE]Why do you keep saying it is in Medellin? It is in Envigato which is a entirely different city. Like I said it is a nice place but lets keep the facts straight. Comparing it to the hotels in Poblado is like comparing the hotels in Beverly Hills to those in West Hollywood. Either your in Beverly Hills or your not.....and the price is reflected accordingly. I can probably find a room in West Hollywood for $40 also. Should I tell everyone I stayed in Beverly Hills for $40 just because it is not too far away?
[QUOTE=Traylor Park]I may consider booking a few nights here [url]http://www.hotelalcaravan.com/servicios_ing.htm[/url][/QUOTE]Now this place looks really nice for only about $20. I would like to go check it out so when the next batch of gypsies show up at my door I will have a place to send them. It looks like you found a place that Winner71 could afford.
The rooms are clean looking and everything looks modern. I seriously want to check this place out. Where is it located?
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02-06-2008 you posted
Can you please provide contact information from photo 2 of that post. She looks like and angel and I can use a bit a heaven in my life right now.
I will be in Tulua on my next visit and I hope to be able to look her up.
PM if you can.
Thanks
Me
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Jchipper,
I have said many times in previous posts that it is up to the clients of the MM and not AG to keep the MM Paisa prices in check. This is not unachievable by no means. In fact I'll share this recent event with you all.
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Price Line
My buddy is in town, I finnally did the blue room, energy, and abydos run in belen anywaz prices as follows effective
Blue Room 75K per hour take out 2 hr min, with taxi fee
Abydos 90K per hour take out 1hr is 140K plus taxi fee
Energy 80K per hour take out 2hr min, with taxi fee
Abydos I think changed there rates and 140K per hour take out is crazy for one hour of take out plus transport its close to 100 USD!
Anywaz the line yup at abydos only had 4 girls, 2 were 7ish attractive looking, I asked when I could return to see more girls she said thats all she had!
Blue room had about 9 girls, battle vetren carolina is there, and was one of the only hotties, rest of the girls had guts from childbirth ect. Or just plain FAT. Energy had a good line up, no more karen, that I could see but had some cutties in the mix with 10 girls.
On a side note I took my buddy to Lutron at 930PM today and was allowed in, the line up was 8 girls, also when they were done with the show and cuttie poal was asking which girl I wanted we heard a scream coming from the kitchen I said kidding that the girls were fighting, poal said they were playing, well two minutes later screams and yelling, and things being broken were heard, poal went running into the room, more screaming and fighting noise ect. Poal comes running out to get some guy, dressed in a suit, possible owner (never met him personally) anywaz I thought the whol in fighting with the girls was funny.
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Latin america
I prefer Colombia over Brazil, Argentina or Venezuela.
1. I like morenas and mulatas (there are only very few in europe).
2. I am absolutely in the habitus of latin women.
3. The weather is better than in my home country, o.k. more serious colombia tends to have everything: pacific and caribic coast, lakes, jungle, mountains - just perfect.
4. Coke is cheap and comes in a very good quality.
5. I live in a safe country, I like the "adventure" down there.
[QUOTE=Sailor2006]If your young, great looking why come to Colombia?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]If your young, great looking why come to Colombia?[/QUOTE]If I was young and good looking, I'd still visit Colombia to date the chicas.
IMHO the most loving, warm chicas. Why date and get involved with a gringa?
Just the thought of it gives me the shakes.
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This is the end!
1800 exchange rate could get even lower!
Lutron 1 hr service 97.2 USD
Blue Room 1 hr service 41.66 USD
Energy 1hr service 44.44 USD
Abydos 1hr service 50.00 USD
All mid level to high end M. P. S are soon to be close to 100 dollars and 50 dollars for an hour of service, SHIT, in the del ray you got 1 hour for $50 or $100. Its something to think about. I wanna call it but I think some one more vetren with more years of exp in Colombia and this hobby should call it!
So what hard core monger is going to call it?
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]1800 exchange rate could get even lower!
Lutron 1 hr service 97.2 USD
Blue Room 1 hr service 41.66 USD
Energy 1hr service 44.44 USD
Abydos 1hr service 50.00 USD
All mid level to high end M. P. S are soon to be close to 100 dollars and 50 dollars for an hour of service, SHIT, in the del ray you got 1 hour for $50 or $100. Its something to think about. I wanna call it but I think some one more vetren with more years of exp in Colombia and this hobby should call it!
So what hard core monger is going to call it?[/QUOTE]The chicas do come back to your hotels are far better rates.
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Load The Wagons
And head to the Mountains of Bogota. Where rooms are still 50, and girls less.
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Refugee
I agree salvation can be found through tough negotiation, and making your own contacts,
As for me I will remain in Medellin however I am reduced to begging for "monies" on the street, and actually talking to women so they can sleep with me, OMG! Its come down to that
Spare some coins!
[QUOTE=Malodr]The chicas do come back to your hotels are far better rates.[/QUOTE]
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61 and loaded with viagra
Hello all fellow pooners.
I am Canadian who is 61 and in good shape for my age.
I have travelled extensively and banged ho's in hundreds of cities and countrys. Just because I am older does not mean I will bang dogs, just the opposite. I can't fuk like a 25 yr. old but still like quality about 4 times a week.
I take my time , like drinking a nice bottle of wine.
So , what can an old pooner like me expect in Medillin or Columbia? I speak Spanglish as I have been around Panama and Mexico for 30 yrs. I would like to find a semi-pro looker and travel about. Have her as a tour guide and fuk buddy. What would she expect for compensation?
I may be there in first week of april for a month.
Please quote in Yankee bucks , even though I,m bringing a strong Canuck buck.
Also what about atm's ???, I don't want to change from canadian to yank and then to columbian. atms are so much easier and you get good rates.
Thank you all and happy safe hard ons.
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Chipper says,
Chipper says the price of ass in Colombia is off the scale for now, not for the rise in prices but for our Dollars poor performance! Today was the first day in 3 years I have seen the cambios at Oviedo pay less than 1800 for the dollar. Sad but true, the prices here at the low end are staying solid for now but the mid to high continue to raise the bar. If we all stick together we can make a difference, best attack is to check the mid to high and when they give the price, smile and walk out, No business is the best solution to a problem we just may have cretaed when the dollar was strong. My weekely sessions at my mp are now at 27. 50 usa w/tip for the hour, not bad you say, last year the same service was 20. 00, lets see 30 percent in a year! Not on my inflation radar! I stand by my early comments on this forum, stick to the Centro ara mps and you won't be dissapointed, just be prepared to walk a little and shop a lot as the quality differs from day to day, a Great Holiday week to all of you in Colombia and see you in the trenches next week, the week is now shut down here, Semana Santa.
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[QUOTE=Vandaddio]Hello all fellow pooners.
I am Canadian who is 61 and in good shape for my age.
I have travelled extensively and banged ho's in hundreds of cities and countrys. Just because I am older does not mean I will bang dogs, just the opposite. I can't fuk like a 25 yr. old but still like quality about 4 times a week.
I take my time , like drinking a nice bottle of wine.
So , what can an old pooner like me expect in Medillin or Columbia? I speak Spanglish as I have been around Panama and Mexico for 30 yrs. I would like to find a semi-pro looker and travel about. Have her as a tour guide and fuk buddy. What would she expect for compensation?
I may be there in first week of april for a month.
Please quote in Yankee bucks , even though I,m bringing a strong Canuck buck.
Also what about atm's ???, I don't want to change from canadian to yank and then to columbian. atms are so much easier and you get good rates.
Thank you all and happy safe hard ons.[/QUOTE]I am Canadian too and changing money there is a bad deal. ATM's are much better. I like to use Citibbank as they will let you withdraw 800K at a time. I save on the transaction fees. other banks will only allow 300K to 500K. My Canadian bank cards work fine there.
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[QUOTE=Vandaddio]So , what can an old pooner like me expect in Medillin or Columbia? I speak Spanglish as I have been around Panama and Mexico for 30 yrs. I would like to find a semi-pro looker and travel about. Have her as a tour guide and fuk buddy. What would she expect for compensation?[/QUOTE]For you to pay for absolutely EVERYTHING and some more.
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Keeping prices down
This just means we need to stick to our value.
I had left the states for the US VI about four years back and when I returned I noticed even for S*^T it was 200/hr or more; no GFE or anything of value...
Here because idiots (like Spitzer) are willing to pay anything asked for a pop that allows the market to demand the price.
In Colombia the demand is hi but the need is higher; demand a low price and tip nicely (not too nicely) and the lovely would come back for more... She will be more than happy to spend the time with you.
I have been doing to Colombia since April 2005 and have seen many beauties and except for Oct 2005, I have done all on my own (granted I was off the market from April 2006 - January 2007 (failed marriage w/Piasa).
Let us keep the market affordable; remember if a lady knows a fatter pocket is sitting next to you she will sit on his bulge rather than yours.
Ban together and keep the prices down!
[QUOTE=Sailor2006]I used to frequent San Diego a couple years ago but it has seen the worst inflation ever, my buddy is in town so i took him to S.D. last night which closed early for the holiday at midnight, anywaz trying to pull a chica out of the club was horrible, many quoted 150K per hour, one wanted more then 150K i laughed they called me crazy gringo. anywaz battle vetren poala was there and a gave her a ride, and we chatted she told me the price is 100K inside San diego and 20K goes to the owener, i said 30 mins no way i have always taken 30PLUS minutes with out problem or issue could she be possible be right and 100K for 30 mins is the standard? anywaz she asked for 100K my friend who is wiser and cheaper then me said no and i said why not take 70K you will be 70K richer in an hour, and i love what she told me. I would rather be 70K less then 70K richer and not meet my price!!!!!!!!! she she got out of the car hoped into a taxi and left, this is a girl i know for two years. she also critized me saying i use to spend more money in S.D. and i said yeah 1. it was 60-70K a pop, 2. dollar was 2600-2300-2000! anywaz just thought id share last nights adventure[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Justafool]This just means we need to stick to our value.
I had left the states for the US VI about four years back and when I returned I noticed even for S*^T it was 200/hr or more; no GFE or anything of value...
Here because idiots (like Spitzer) are willing to pay anything asked for a pop that allows the market to demand the price.
In Colombia the demand is hi but the need is higher; demand a low price and tip nicely (not too nicely) and the lovely would come back for more... She will be more than happy to spend the time with you.
I have been doing to Colombia since April 2005 and have seen many beauties and except for Oct 2005, I have done all on my own (granted I was off the market from April 2006 - January 2007 (failed marriage w/Piasa).
Let us keep the market affordable; remember if a lady knows a fatter pocket is sitting next to you she will sit on his bulge rather than yours.
Ban together and keep the prices down![/QUOTE]There is one small problem with your line of argument. Well over 90% of the customers are Colombians. Talk to them first.
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Room costs are salries
My buddy and I were talking about the price situation here, and to better understand what prices should be for independent calls, and after work hours vists one needs to understand the cuts taken out and what the house takes. So I am asking for any information on what the strip clubs charge for rooms, or what the M. Ps take out of the girls fee.
False Dose 150K per hour girl takes 100K house 50K ?
San deigo 100K per 30 mins????? house 20K ?
Centro Strip clubs 40K per 30-45mins house?
Loutron 175K per hour girl takes 50%?
Blue Room 50/50
Energy 50/50
New life and centro Mps 50/50
I don't really know what the centro cuts are if anybody has information on the house cuts please chip in, I normally cut it in have and add10% and those are my offers when contacting chicas out side of working hours.
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Just a little extra context guys. .
There are people here who constantly throw around that the "average" salary in Colombia is 400K COP / month.
Just keep in mind the "average" Colombian lives in poverty or miserable poverty. 400K basically gives you the ability to live under a tin roof (held down by rocks) way up some hill in an estrato 1 neighborhood that can be very dangerous at night.
I don't think not one single gringo here could survive on that salary! In fact, you probably wouldn't last a week.
Food and getting around is pretty cheap in Colombia (and by the way, bus and taxi fares went up Jan 1 in MDE, not sure about the metro or in other cities. .) but there's a LOT of other stuff that's actually MORE expensive than in the states for various reasons, including import taxes.
I'm not saying throw your money around, it's always good to know the language and negotiate whenever you can. But prices in the casas and incall are usually set, so what's the purpose in whining about that? I really doubt those venues are bringing up prices just because the gringos are coming. I think inflation is a worldwide phenomena, and I wouldn't be surprised if P4P is going up pretty much everywhere. Now why P4P would go up more than other things is an interesting question, but I personally doubt it's all because Medellin is being overrun by gringos who don't know how to negotiate.
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The problem with many gringos. Especially the Costa Rican Gringo crowd is that they think the more they pay, the sharper they are.
Its like unnecessarily paying more for something should be worn as a badge of honor when really it comes across as acts of foolishness and irrational decisions to the chicas and other gringo travelers.
People unnecessarily overpaying for anything doesnt earn the person some sort of silent respect from everyone else, in fact, people will lose respect for a person who does so because it just causes the whole environment of PFP in a city like MDE or anywhere else to deteriorate because the girls atiitude will get crappy while causing artificial inflation of prices for no reason.
Having no respect for market pricing is just having no respect for fellow mongers.
$250 for a session in MDE is just ridiculous.
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Local rate!
Tom,
As in any place there is a local price and a tourist price. Do you think that 90% pays the same as the other 10%.
I have locals who I know from the states book everything for me because I know they do not get charged the tourist rate.
Next time you are talking price ask for a local rate. Tell her charge you as a Colombian.
[QUOTE=Tom 33]There is one small problem with your line of argument. Well over 90% of the customers are Colombians. Talk to them first.[/QUOTE]
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Medellin - SW scene / brothels
The SW can be found in the centro at.
Carrera 53 between Calle 50 and 52
Or
Calle 55 (Peru) off Parque Bolivar
They are standing in the doorways of their "hotels".
Quality is poor. In my opinion not doable.
Didn't investigate prices!
I was there on Maundy Thursday and Good Friday. All MPs closed, only the SW running. Bad luck this time!
Cheers!
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Does anybody know what the wholesale price of pussy is?
Anybody know the wholesale price of pussy? What amount of money makes the cutties from the barrios take 45min bus rides and taxi trips from bello or whereever to work in M. P. S all over town, if blue room charges 75K a session whats the girls take, how much did she earn? I think if we knew the answear then negotiation would be alot more easy. Knowledge is power in bussniess and despite the fact that we are buying selling and trading sex its still a commodity.
As for prices gringo invasion is having a effect that is evident, in negotation with the girls and with owners of clubs and houses, inflation is 10% a year that doesnt warrent prices going from 65K to 90K in less then a year, or from 60-70K to 100-120K in less then 18 months! Or multas up to 150K, the proof is in the pudding!
Colombias economy improving, slightly for poor class, still many chicas looking and hungry for money, I think the greed lies with the owners and managers of the establishments increasing room rates and fee's, the girls like in all other countries demand high prices but we can see through that.
As to my questions I think if a loutron chica gets 80K a session out of a 175K charge that tells us something about what indpendent girls can chrage or what offers we should make afterhours! Or a blue room girls take is 50K out of 75K charge, also tells you something so on and so forth. Times are tough and this sailor isn't going to founder in the wash, unlike those with their heads in the clouds I think simple economics can ride the storm!
[QUOTE=Sailor2006]My buddy and I were talking about the price situation here, and to better understand what prices should be for independent calls, and after work hours vists one needs to understand the cuts taken out and what the house takes. So I am asking for any information on what the strip clubs charge for rooms, or what the M. Ps take out of the girls fee.
False Dose 150K per hour girl takes 100K house 50K ?
San deigo 100K per 30 mins????? house 20K ?
Centro Strip clubs 40K per 30-45mins house?
Loutron 175K per hour girl takes 50%?
Blue Room 50/50
Energy 50/50
New life and centro Mps 50/50
I don't really know what the centro cuts are if anybody has information on the house cuts please chip in, I normally cut it in have and add10% and those are my offers when contacting chicas out side of working hours.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dars Veider]The SW can be found in the centro at.
Carrera 53 between Calle 50 and 52
Or
Calle 55 (Peru) off Parque Bolivar
They are standing in the doorways of their "hotels".
Quality is poor. In my opinion not doable.
Didn't investigate prices!
I was there on Maundy Thursday and Good Friday. All MPs closed, only the SW running. Bad luck this time!
Cheers![/QUOTE]I disagree, as I have seen maybe a few 100 over the past 4 trips and I would say, maybe a dozen were worth looking into.
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Wow who knew that my post would bring such negetive feedback. Maybe it was misunderstood. My point is that $100 bucks is not a lot for a hot chica for the hour or the night or whatever you negiciate. You all are right. I am paying the ticket the hotel/APT and the 5 hour trip, so why would I cry and moan because she wants an extra $30 american?? That doesnt make much sense does it. Maybe I should start a big fuss right there in the CASA about them charging an extra $30 and walk right out( the price of 2 drinks in the US). Price of gas goes up, price of homes go up, and the price of puntang goes up. Back in my day tang was $5 for the night, back in the day??? This aint back in the day, this is today; and the price of tang is what it is. If you dont like it dont go to those places. But harping about it aint going to change anything and if you think banding together is going to help then you all are sadly mistaken, beacuse guys like me will always screw it up for you.
Now if you want some cheap tang((and I am equal opportunity Cheap/expensive)) check out centro,because I do.
And about that back in the day crap; nostalgia is very overated and usalley a waste of time.
Why do I go to MDE; because the chicks Normal/prepago are rediculously hot and in abundance, you can catch a train to centro spend a day going from casa to casa drinkin a brew, smokin a J, and listening to tunes. Call up 4 hot chicks to meet you in LLaras then off for a night of partying til 9 in the morning. thats why. If the exchange rate was $1-$1.000pesos I would still be there.
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Working Girl Salary
Does anybody care to guess what the working girls makes monthly?
It's gotta be more then 400K a month cuase they wouldn't put up with it.
Loutron girl?
Blue room girl?
Centrol MP girl?
False Dose girl?
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Does anybody care to guess what the working girls makes monthly?
It's gotta be more then 400K a month cuase they wouldn't put up with it.[/QUOTE]Well one incall lady I sessioned with claimed she spent 600K COP on her hair (color and extensions). .
So that gives you an idea how much money some of these girls can blow (foolishly, imho) just on trying to look good.
I took a female friend once to Lejano Oriente the high-end late night "secret" brothel in Poblado. She spoke with a girl there that claimed she used to work at a bank making 4 million COP a month until she got laid off. But somehow switching to this new "career" she's now millions of pesos in debt. Not really sure I understand how she got into all that debt.
In any case, if you're on a really tight budget, just avoid girls that have silicone tits and ass, and look for ones that are dressed relatively plain. Also, the younger they are, the more naive they tend to be and the easier they are to bargain with, assuming they're at least 18 of course!
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Loutrons, I had thought the women made $1 million a month but someone corrected me and said that it was $2 million.
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Hidden charges and extra fees
Again and not to argue, becuase I do pay 200K for all nighters if the girls service warrents the charge, but the purpose of this fourm is international sex guide, a guide on where to find, how much to pay, ect.
That extra 30 dollar sur charge hurts over 20 times, think about it, yeah its only 30 bucks or an extra 50K COP but put 20 times over that is now 600 dollars you have been over charged now put that into a 3 month trip 1800 DOLLARS YOU DID NOT NEED TO OVER PAY! Now if I were to tell you this story took place in best buy, or wallmart or your local stock broker overcharging you per trade you would be up in arms about, but becuase its a "hot chica" its ok? Foolish in my opinion
I remember growing up in South Florida with a good friend of mine who would always stop at the automatic toll booth and pick up coins that people threw into the machine and missed, I thought it was stupid at first till in one session he made more then the min wage at the time, the point is every penny counts and being overcharged despite the amount is still being overcharged.
I don't think people were trying to bash you, this is kinda a community despite the little arguments, I know and have met many people on this board, all I try to do is provide information and share ideas and thoughts, on that note my next post will be a photo or two.
[QUOTE=Jose Lima]Wow who knew that my post would bring such negetive feedback. Maybe it was misunderstood. My point is that $100 bucks is not a lot for a hot chica for the hour or the night or whatever you negiciate. You all are right. I am paying the ticket the hotel/APT and the 5 hour trip, so why would I cry and moan because she wants an extra $30 american?? That doesnt make much sense does it. Maybe I should start a big fuss right there in the CASA about them charging an extra $30 and walk right out( the price of 2 drinks in the US). Price of gas goes up, price of homes go up, and the price of puntang goes up. Back in my day tang was $5 for the night, back in the day??? This aint back in the day, this is today; and the price of tang is what it is. If you dont like it dont go to those places. But harping about it aint going to change anything and if you think banding together is going to help then you all are sadly mistaken, beacuse guys like me will always screw it up for you.
Now if you want some cheap tang((and I am equal opportunity Cheap/expensive)) check out centro,because I do.
And about that back in the day crap; nostalgia is very overated and usalley a waste of time.
Why do I go to MDE; because the chicks Normal/prepago are rediculously hot and in abundance, you can catch a train to centro spend a day going from casa to casa drinkin a brew, smokin a J, and listening to tunes. Call up 4 hot chicks to meet you in LLaras then off for a night of partying til 9 in the morning. thats why. If the exchange rate was $1-$1.000pesos I would still be there.[/QUOTE]
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Does anyone know the cost of living in a good area of MDE.
A good area of MDE or Bello (not rich) costs a lot less than a poor area of NYC or DC (without public assistance).
[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Does anybody care to guess what the working girls makes monthly?
It's gotta be more then 400K a month cuase they wouldn't put up with it.
Loutron girl?
Blue room girl?
Centrol MP girl?
False Dose girl?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Beersterry]Loutrons, I had thought the women made $1 million a month but someone corrected me and said that it was $2 million.[/QUOTE]I was told 2 million pesos in a regular month. If it's a really good month, as much as 4 million.
Those figures are a couple of years old. Back when the 70 minute session would cost you 120k.
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2 photos
Photo time
So those of you don't think all I do is complain about money, and the fall of the dollar and the american empire, heres two pics, one of battle vetren poal, and one of sophia. No nudes they didn't want nudes of them on ISG I can respect that.
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Now back to the bitching!!
Cost of living, not on a *****s salry! I think asking what these girls make is a very good question, and id like a real answear especially when were talking about what is overpaying, what is asking too much, the price of pussy is as important as a gallon of gas or milk and we all care about that! So back to the orginal question in which I'll try and answear my self, loutron good example, top of the line best chicas in Medellin and pricy!
Loutron charges 175, 000 COP per session (1hr) lets use 50/50 as the split, so 87, 500 COP is the girls take per session plus any tip (personally I don't tip, only two girls there have asked me for a tip as well) so loutron is open 26 days out of the month, 26 days, lets average 2 clients per day so 87, 500 times 2 for 26 days, 4, 500, 000 COP per month would be the girls wages! I think this is MAX, and personally think we gave them the benfit of the doubt assuming they work 26 days a month 10 hours a day, 2 clients per day and a 50/50 split, its possible but highly unlikely. But on the 50/50 level it tells us that these high quality girls are willing to work at loutrons 45 mins away from there barrios, for 8-10 hours a day for 87, 500 COP a day or 175, 000 per day plus they pay their own meals, provided there own transport ect. Actually if the exchange rate gets any lower two clients a day gives them almost 100 bucks a day more the min wage in the states.
Its my personal opinion that the high price girls in Medellin make 80-90K per session, including strip clubs like F2, and SD this is MAX. Centrol and mid level places and the gals make even less!
False Dose the girls take is 100K per session room fee is 50K, so I think, . And many false dose girls barely go into the back room and again if they do twice in one night from 10PM to 4AM they are lucky! Plus their tips (if they dance) bad night and they leave with 40K, good night they leave with 200K and anywhere in between, and again false dose is top or most expensive strip club in Medellin.
So when some independent chica (or after hours chica) is asking 150-300K per session or a few hours, you can say loutron girls take 10-15K taxi rides up a mountain to if their lucky earn 87K to 150K in 8-10 hours of sitting in the house! Gentleman the pricy of pussy is not a on "demand basis" its a mathamatical question.
Now with that said, I have been asked to pay 200K, 300K for few hour sessions, one girl from "lindas chicas" even told me colombians paid 1, 000, 000 COP to her! Nacy laughed the day after and I had her fired! And this was after 3 hours of chitchat and drinks in my place she still had the never to ask 200, 300K for a few hours of drinking and then quick sex! If you let them these girls will overcharge you by 200% or more!
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Forum Reboot
[blue]Greetings everyone,
The recent comments by the Price Police was going nowhere, and in fact was starting to look like a back-door effort by the usual suspects to post negatively about Colombia in their ongoing efforts to dissuade anyone from visiting Colombia, which they consider to be their personal playground. I deleted it.
FYI: What we're looking for in this thread is first hand narratives of member's personal experiences traveling and mongering in Colombia.
For those of you who think that somebody else is paying too much, my advice is for you to post a narrative with photos of your own experiences, thus educating other members as to how they can emulate your MO. Be sure to include all the details: Where, when, how much, etc., including street addresses, etc.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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Mater
Are negative posts about Colombia not allowed?
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Are negative posts about Colombia not allowed?[/QUOTE][blue]Negative posts are not permitted at this time. This restriction is necessary to thwart a small number of antagonistists who are engaged in an ongoing effort to dissuade anyone from visiting Colombia, which they consider to be their personal playground.
Please find something positive to post.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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5 photos
November 2007 trip, a major success.
Met this one at the Sunday pool party at the mansion. Hung out a while and then she agreed to come back for the next 7 nights for 100,000 for 3 hours. I had 3 sessions and 2 of my buddies also had sessions. She was great for that price.
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I just got back from another trip to Medellin. It was bad timing on my part in a way because none of the girls would put out from 12 midnight on Holy Thursday through Saturday morning. I was at Fase Dos on Wednesday night and the girl I chose would not go back to the room because it was a little after midnight. To them, it was a major sin having sex on Holy Thursday and Good Friday, and this included my girlfriend, who would not have sex with me starting midnight on Good Friday, although we did the deed on Holy Thursday.
All the casas were closed on Thursday and Friday and the town was pretty much dead. I felt like Will Smith in the movie "I am Legend". The only places that were open were stores and restaurants. However, the hotel rates were pretty low. I stayed at the Hotel Dann Carlton and they charged me only $80 a night, plus tax. This included the use of the pool, exercise room, and buffet breakfast.
So unless one has a girlfriend I would stay from Medellin during Holy Week.
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MaloDR, nice work
[QUOTE=Malodr]Met this one at the Sunday pool party at the mansion. Hung out a while and then she agreed to come back for the next 7 nights for 100,000 for 3 hours. I had 3 sessions and 2 of my buddies also had sessions. She was great for that price.[/QUOTE]She's looks like a keeper. GFE I bet. Good pricing, too. If you have any full body shots, please post. Keep up the good work.
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Some perpspective
[QUOTE=Justafool]Tom,
As in any place there is a local price and a tourist price. Do you think that 90% pays the same as the other 10%.
I have locals who I know from the states book everything for me because I know they do not get charged the tourist rate.
Next time you are talking price ask for a local rate. Tell her charge you as a Colombian.[/QUOTE]These places have rate sheets. There is no gringo price unless you are in a place where there is negotiation involved and there the hooker might bargiain harder if she's hot and your old and fat and if you're a tourist. European and American Gringos make up LESS than 10% of the customers. The prices are going up because the prices are going up. The paying $250 is/was a one shot jackpot deal that probably happens once a year for each girl. The John in these places are Colombian men who make WELL over the 400K monthly minimum and the girls make WAY over that as well.
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Fantasy Show
Anybody ever try out that fantasy show, they pass out these cards all over town, was wondering if anybody tried it out?
In addition has anybody ever pulled out a prepago out of any of the clubs or in park illares, one girl told me that there are more independents in clubs and bars, that are prepagos, in fact she told me there were too many, I normally tend to stick to the path of the normal places and occassionally wonder down town for street walkers and strip clubs but I have never approached girls in clubs as if they were prepagos, so if anybody knows any truth to this speak up.
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Anybody ever try out that fantasy show, they pass out these cards all over town, was wondering if anybody tried it out?
In addition has anybody ever pulled out a prepago out of any of the clubs or in park illares, one girl told me that there are more independents in clubs and bars, that are prepagos, in fact she told me there were too many, I normally tend to stick to the path of the normal places and occassionally wonder down town for street walkers and strip clubs but I have never approached girls in clubs as if they were prepagos, so if anybody knows any truth to this speak up.[/QUOTE]I have pulled prepagos out of club carnival but exremely late, like around 6:00am or 7:00am. I have also pulled chicks out of club Why. That place is like club fase dose. I banged 5 regular chicks out of there and then the next week I went to Fase Dose and 3 of them were working. Crazy shit.
They seem to get more prepagoish as the night draws to an end. aka...3:30am for regular spots and 7:00am for the late night clubs
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[QUOTE=Almotu]She's looks like a keeper. GFE I bet. Good pricing, too. If you have any full body shots, please post. Keep up the good work.[/QUOTE]I have about 40 pictures of her. I only kept her for three nights because I had a few others that I really wanted and they were just as sweet.
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Anybody ever try out that fantasy show, they pass out these cards all over town, was wondering if anybody tried it out?
In addition has anybody ever pulled out a prepago out of any of the clubs or in park illares, one girl told me that there are more independents in clubs and bars, that are prepagos, in fact she told me there were too many, I normally tend to stick to the path of the normal places and occassionally wonder down town for street walkers and strip clubs but I have never approached girls in clubs as if they were prepagos, so if anybody knows any truth to this speak up.[/QUOTE]I never saw any that seemed to be working.
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My experience
Sorry to say but the non-mongering experience I have (ie: hotels, apartments) I have my in-laws take cards of this, and I pay less then quoted.
As for some ladies I PFP I have asked them for a second quote as a local and the price seem to come down, maybe just shock at the quality of my GRINGITO Spanish so they gave me a discount.
Clubs might be different but I have never been to a club. I have stayed at the Mansion once a few years back and it was nice but my in-laws (who were not yet my in-laws) kept me from the BBqs and parties. The only lady I grabbed was Carina and she was a sweety from a place close to San Diego. I lost her number when I got married I wish I had it back now that I am divorcing...
My 2 cents,
Mike
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]These places have rate sheets. There is no gringo price unless you are in a place where there is negotiation involved and there the hooker might bargiain harder if she's hot and your old and fat and if you're a tourist. European and American Gringos make up LESS than 10% of the customers. The prices are going up because the prices are going up. The paying $250 is/was a one shot jackpot deal that probably happens once a year for each girl. The John in these places are Colombian men who make WELL over the 400K monthly minimum and the girls make WAY over that as well.[/QUOTE]
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Club Why
Never heard of it, can you provide location? I would like to check it out.
[QUOTE=Jose Lima]I have pulled prepagos out of club carnival but exremely late, like around 6:00am or 7:00am. I have also pulled chicks out of club Why. That place is like club fase dose. I banged 5 regular chicks out of there and then the next week I went to Fase Dose and 3 of them were working. Crazy shit.
They seem to get more prepagoish as the night draws to an end. aka...3:30am for regular spots and 7:00am for the late night clubs[/QUOTE]
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I think it's Club Wild not Club Why.
If I remember correctly (was only there once), it's a techno club, with an upstairs VIP area where some drug dealer types like to hang out. It's a pretty intense atmosphere, sometimes there's fights, and people are high on X or using poppers, maybe some other stuff as well. Did notice some hot looking babes with the silicone, etc. walking about so I suppose some women are available. Would be real careful though hanging out here by yourself, or approaching some of these hotties without getting the "all clear" look from them.
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Like pharmacy
Yeah kinda like pharmacy, but probly more intense, never heard of it, may not check it out as I am not into getting beat up over women, men are very protective of their women here. I checked out a so called prepago hang out in 33rd, not very active bassiclly you have to contact the owner and he gets you a girl.
Price seems high one girl wanted 200K for a few hours and was not very attractive! I think its gringo prices even though they swear colombians pay them 400-800K I laughed.
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Independent price report
Ok well, in my never ending search for chicas, I have stumbled across the source of some of the chicas for nancy, and famous unnamed place, mostly independent chicas from belen and centro ect. I saw only 2 prepagos there, but again the owner asks you what you like and the girls arrive. He has some quality I saw only 3 girls, but many of these independent chicas think were fools, one plain looking girl wanted 200K for a couple hours, which is basically saying after sex if I am bored I leave!
Another girl I met there I actually got into an argument over price at Lindas Chicas, her 400K fee was alittle high for me, bottom line I didn't get anything I refused to pay their fees. Some of these girls really think that I would belive some colombian pays them 300K-400K, they even told me their are independent girls charging 500K and upwards, I luaghed very hard but the proof is in the pudding, so I took the one to San Diego so she can see what type of girls are willing to work for 70-80K (their cut) she was kinda shocked as she has been to False Dose before but never san diego, I explained how a few years ago it was alot cheaper then it is now, and I explained how the girls have to work from 10PM to 4AM the multa and fees charged, for the 200K your asking me I can call one of these girls on Monday or Tuesday and get her all night with out restrictions for the same 200K! Of course she defended her outrages fee with nonsense reasoning, but bottom line was many girls work from 10PM to 4AM screw 2 guys or more dance 2 times on stage to hopefully earn 200K in 6 hours of work! Who knows if anything got through their thick skulls, but going home with just taxi money may have been sufficent. I was just tired of these huge prices and wanted to put some reality in their face!
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Medellin Temperatures
I've asked this question a few times and can't quite get a handle on the true answer.
Some have sent me to sites that say it's low to mid 70's there, all year round, and I've seen posts stating that it was really hot.
Who knows?
I'd really like to find out what temperatures might I expect to find in Medellin during the period of Mid April?
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[QUOTE=George0724]I've asked this question a few times and can't quite get a handle on the true answer.
Some have sent me to sites that say it's low to mid 70's there, all year round, and I've seen posts stating that it was really hot.
Who knows?
I'd really like to find out what temperatures might I expect to find in Medellin during the period of Mid April?[/QUOTE]It never really gets hot there but it can get chilly at night. I was there in May, August, October & November.
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[QUOTE=George0724]I've asked this question a few times and can't quite get a handle on the true answer.
Some have sent me to sites that say it's low to mid 70's there, all year round, and I've seen posts stating that it was really hot.
Who knows?
I'd really like to find out what temperatures might I expect to find in Medellin during the period of Mid April?[/QUOTE]Look at a high of 80 and a low of 60, 365 days per year. April is one of 2 rainy seasons. If it doesn't rain mid-afternoon and the sun comes out, it will be 80. With rain and no sun, it may not get much above 72. A light jacket for late nights might be needed.
Outside of the rainy seasons, it can get very hot from 3:00-5:00 pm in the sun. As soon as the sun dips, it cools. I have no air conditioning in my house. I do have a fan but haven't used it.
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[QUOTE=George0724]I've asked this question a few times and can't quite get a handle on the true answer.
Some have sent me to sites that say it's low to mid 70's there, all year round, and I've seen posts stating that it was really hot.[/QUOTE]That is the correct answer (mid-70's)
"really hot" is subjective. I guess depends on where you're coming from, and how much you sweat.
[url]http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/monthly/COXX0020?month=1[/url]
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Weather
[QUOTE=George0724]I've asked this question a few times and can't quite get a handle on the true answer.
Some have sent me to sites that say it's low to mid 70's there, all year round, and I've seen posts stating that it was really hot.
Who knows?
I'd really like to find out what temperatures might I expect to find in Medellin during the period of Mid April?[/QUOTE]Don't know what your experience is with Colombia but I've only been there twice (Bogota and Medellin). The way it was explained to me is that since Colombia is so close to the equator, the climate of Colombia is generally constant (i.e. there are no noticeable seasons). However, Colombia has the full spectrum of weather from oppressively hot and humid to cold, rainy, and snowy all on the same day. The variable that accounts for change in weather is really the altitude of where you are. The beaches are at sea level and are hot and sunny (e.g. Cartagena, Baranquilla). Bogota is high in the mountains so it's usually overcast, cool/chilly, and unpredictable rain. The valleys (i.e. Medellin or Cali) are a happy medium and have mild to warm temperatures all year round. As I'm sure you're aware, Medellin is known as the City of Eternal Spring; they're serious about that. When I was in Medellin the high was pretty much 25-27C (77-81F) my entire 10 days. I don't know what the low temps were but it never got cool enough to wear the light jacket I brought. A few nights I remember wearing long-sleeved shirts and that was more than enough. I know 10 days is hardly an authoritative sample but everybody I asked there gave me the same explanation and insisted that it's like that all year long.
I researched several web sites about the weather before I went and encountered what sounds to be the same things you found. I couldn't make sense of them. On the same day, one site would say that it was snowing and cold in Medellin and then another site would say it's mild and nice. I think they either got some wires crossed or maybe there's more than one Medellin. The one in Antioquia state/province is the Medellin you want, in case there's any doubt or confusion. In Medellin, a couple nights, I saw thunder clouds rolling in but they never really made it to the city. The city is in a river valley and the thunder storms dumped their water on the surrounding mountains. Lightning over the ridges were pretty.
The weather in Medellin is pleasant. I prefer things on the cooler side so I always had either my room' air conditioner going or the windows open for the pleasant breeze that always seems to wisp around. Some nights I just slept under the sheets, and others I actually had the a/c going so well that I had one of the light blankets on as well.
Medellin is known for commercial flower production so it would stand to reason that they've got their flowers growing in a constant spring climate. Their Flower Festival is a big 2-week hootenanny and takes place in early August, not in May or whenever one would think a spring flower festival would take place.
As a matter of fact, the main international airport is about 45 minutes out of Medellin proper via taxi. The airport is on the plateau of one of the mountains above the valley where the city is. It was sunny when I landed but actually chilly. The drive down is a winding mountain road. It starts off in pine forests then about half way down, there is a noticeable temperature change. The forest turns into more temperate species like eucalyptus. The taxi driver and I talked about the noticeable change in temperature for a few minutes when we hit it. The view looking down into the city is beautiful.
There is an airport in the city but it's smaller and I don't remember seeing big jetliners using it. They mostly seemed like turbo-prop regional planes.
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Thanks Guys
Thanks to all the Weathermen.
Based on what you've said, I guess I'll take my microfibre spring jacket and a pocket umbrella with me.
Coming from New England, I suppose it will be about 10-20 degrees warmer, depending on the day, than where I'm from.
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I just posted this on my Lima thread and thought it might be interesting for you guys who live in or might be visiting Medellin and want to come to Peru for some decent food.
Lan is starting flights from Lima to Medellin (and vice versa) in May and the price is right. $200 round trip from Peru. Might be even cheaper from Colombia. Got to purchase the ticket before April 13 and travel between May 15 and Nov. 30.
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600k Cop
[QUOTE=Phunluv]Well one incall lady I sessioned with claimed she spent 600K COP on her hair (color and extensions)[/quote]600k COP is enough for a hair transplant treatment in Colombia.
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Ok well, in my never ending search for chicas, I have stumbled across the source of some of the chicas for nancy, and famous unnamed place, mostly independent chicas from belen and centro ect. I saw only 2 prepagos there, but again the owner asks you what you like and the girls arrive. He has some quality I saw only 3 girls, but many of these independent chicas think were fools, one plain looking girl wanted 200K for a couple hours, which is basically saying after sex if I am bored I leave!
Another girl I met there I actually got into an argument over price at Lindas Chicas, her 400K fee was alittle high for me, bottom line I didn't get anything I refused to pay their fees. Some of these girls really think that I would belive some colombian pays them 300K-400K, they even told me their are independent girls charging 500K and upwards, I luaghed very hard but the proof is in the pudding, so I took the one to San Diego so she can see what type of girls are willing to work for 70-80K (their cut) she was kinda shocked as she has been to False Dose before but never san diego, I explained how a few years ago it was alot cheaper then it is now, and I explained how the girls have to work from 10PM to 4AM the multa and fees charged, for the 200K your asking me I can call one of these girls on Monday or Tuesday and get her all night with out restrictions for the same 200K! Of course she defended her outrages fee with nonsense reasoning, but bottom line was many girls work from 10PM to 4AM screw 2 guys or more dance 2 times on stage to hopefully earn 200K in 6 hours of work! Who knows if anything got through their thick skulls, but going home with just taxi money may have been sufficent. I was just tired of these huge prices and wanted to put some reality in their face![/QUOTE]Good for you. The more of us who say NO to these stupid prices the better. Come on guys: do your bit to get more pussy per dollar.
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Pissed off chicas
Apparently she was unpleased with where I took her, and the fact that she left with out money, although honestly she didn't look upset that night, but sure didn't sound too happy on the phone. (these women are excellent fakers) I told her she shouldnt have expected anything becuase it was our first meeting, and there won't be a second one so she doesnt have to worry. I kinda felt bad about her being dragged out of the house to meet me for work and not get paid but what can you expect when you want 200K (weeks worth of money) for 1 or 2 hours. Plus she wasnt that pretty, more plain looking then anything eles.
Prostituion is a tough bussniess anywhere in the world, especially for us "johns" this has been a tough stay in Colombia normally I find one or two cutties who are cheap and tariffic in bed but not this trip! I found some nice girls who suck in bed, some kool girls to hang out with also not great in bed, and I am finding more greedy hoes, who think I am stupid! I think its getting alittle harder to find resonably priced good chicas. I wll continue to try!
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Good for you. The more of us who say NO to these stupid prices the better. Come on guys: do your bit to get more pussy per dollar.[/QUOTE]
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Is anyone in Medellin today and/or tomorrow?
I just arrived in Medellin this afternoon and am here for 2 days. Looking to see if anyone else is in town to live out some fantasies. Let me know a. S. A. P
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Nextel Service in Medellin
Has anyone used Nextel (on roaming) in Medellin?
I am wondering about whether I need to make other arrangements or not.
I intend to buy a sim card for my unlocked GSM phone for calling Paisitas, but I need calls for work to eminate from "my phone"
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[QUOTE=George0724]Has anyone used Nextel (on roaming) in Medellin?
I am wondering about whether I need to make other arrangements or not.
I intend to buy a sim card for my unlocked GSM phone for calling Paisitas, but I need calls for work to eminate from "my phone"[/QUOTE]I know there is no NEXTEL direct connect in COLOMBIA, I know there is in Peru, Argentina and Brazil. BUT on the other hand I know they have some kind off push to talk service because ive seen people using it. As far as cell service it IS available but only with like special QUAD BAND phones and its like $2/min plus taxes.. But every time I get off the plane and turn my Nextel on, It teases me because I get (5 bars) but it says "restricted service"
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This is what we should all do.
We have to expect a little cost of living increase but not a jump. Unless you are so into the lady that you have to have her, we need to stand firm on the price. Take it or leave it because someone will be around the corner will to acept (and she might just be a nicer, prettier and better service).
Anchors away Sailor; help keep Colombia affordable.
[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Apparently she was unpleased with where I took her, and the fact that she left with out money, although honestly she didn't look upset that night, but sure didn't sound too happy on the phone. (these women are excellent fakers) I told her she shouldnt have expected anything becuase it was our first meeting, and there won't be a second one so she doesnt have to worry. I kinda felt bad about her being dragged out of the house to meet me for work and not get paid but what can you expect when you want 200K (weeks worth of money) for 1 or 2 hours. Plus she wasnt that pretty, more plain looking then anything eles.
Prostituion is a tough bussniess anywhere in the world, especially for us "johns" this has been a tough stay in Colombia normally I find one or two cutties who are cheap and tariffic in bed but not this trip! I found some nice girls who suck in bed, some kool girls to hang out with also not great in bed, and I am finding more greedy hoes, who think I am stupid! I think its getting alittle harder to find resonably priced good chicas. I wll continue to try![/QUOTE]
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Nextel in Colombia
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]I know there is no NEXTEL direct connect in COLOMBIA, I know there is in Peru, Argentina and Brazil. BUT on the other hand I know they have some kind off push to talk service because ive seen people using it. As far as cell service it IS available but only with like special QUAD BAND phones and its like $2/min plus taxes.. But every time I get off the plane and turn my Nextel on, It teases me because I get (5 bars) but it says "restricted service"[/QUOTE]I know that there is no regular Nextel service there. I don't mind that because I'm used to it. I just need to know about Nextel international service either being in Medellin or not.
I have a Nextel international phone, so as long as the international service is available, I'm all set. At $2/min., I don't like the bill I get when I return, but until I do something else, there's nothing I can do about that.
Nextel's service maps for their international plan mention some cities in Colombia, but don't mention Medellin. On their map, the colored service lines converge in what looks like Medellin. That was the source of my confusion and frustration. Nextel Customer Service couldn't tell me, if you can believe it.
I was thinking of getting into a Skype phone so that no matter where I go, I can use the phone to place, receive, and get voice mail.
I wouldn't mind hearing from a skype user on how I could use that to solve my problem.
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1200Hrs Lights Out
I thought I was back in school, driving by park illares on a Thursday night at 0130 and it was dead, closed shop! Apparently something happend and the mayor or police are paying tough and shut the place down! Rumor is somebody was shot or something anybody shed some light on the subject?
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Nothing new, 2 people were shot at Resturant Triada last year, also a persdons out side Mango's not so long ago.
Aussie Greg.
[QUOTE=Sailor2006]I thought I was back in school, driving by park illares on a Thursday night at 0130 and it was dead, closed shop! Apparently something happend and the mayor or police are paying tough and shut the place down! Rumor is somebody was shot or something anybody shed some light on the subject?[/QUOTE]
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Observation is master
Park L was open and busy Friday night at 0300, wonder why it was dead on Thursday! O well
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Costa Rica vs. Colombia (Medellin)
I have never been to Colombia (not yet), but the girls I have met around the world that are from Colombia are HOT.
I have been to Thailand, Costa Rica, Brazil, Dubai, China, Honk Kong, Singapore for mongering. This is just going to be a quick trip so I am planning to either go back to Costa Rica which I know pretty well or check out Medellin (Probably at the Mansion) for the first time.
Can anyone help compare the two for me? Which you prefer and why?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=JuiceGuy]I have never been to Colombia (not yet), but the girls I have met around the world that are from Colombia are HOT.
I have been to Thailand, Costa Rica, Brazil, Dubai, China, Honk Kong, Singapore for mongering. This is just going to be a quick trip so I am planning to either go back to Costa Rica which I know pretty well or check out Medellin (Probably at the Mansion) for the first time.
Can anyone help compare the two for me? Which you prefer and why?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]That could take weeks, if not months.
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triada
Didn't know about the shooting, shit happens. Seems kinda like the shit they pulled at school, misbehave and you get put on curfew, comon its B. S. It doesnt work and is stupid only hurts the bars, and old gringos looking for tail. Was just wondering what we did to invoke the curfew.
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Nothing new, 2 people were shot at Resturant Triada last year, also a persdons out side Mango's not so long ago.
Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE]
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San Jose, CR vs. Medellin, CO
I have been to Costa Rica many times and am in Medellin, on my first trip now so I will offer my opinions. I hit a range of places from high end casas and hooker bars to cheap, local strip clubs, casas and street girls. My Spanish is OK but not very good. This will be primarily from a mongering perspective. On one hand, I don't have nearly as much experience in Medellin as many on this board. On the other hand, since I am a Medellin newbie, perhaps my experience will be closer to that of other first timers, as opposed to those who live here/travel here frequently and know all of the tricks.
The simplest answer to compare San Jose to Medellin is that the women are FAR better looking in Medellin than Costa Rica. All other things being equal, for the same price you can find a much better looking girl. The price structure of the two countries is actually very similar, but the quality is better.
[b]Girls[/b]
As I said earlier, the girls are FAR better looking at comparable price ranges. The women tend to have nicer curves, prettier faces, and keep themselves in better shape. I'm not saying there are no gorditas. However, you will find a higher percentage of quality girls. Even the top tier Colombianas that we get at the Del Rey are not at the level of the top girls in the local strip clubs in Medellin that you can have for the same price or less.
I tend to get more of a GFE type experience from the Ticas and Nicas in San Jose, however that, IMHO, can be attributed to the fact that I am a frequent visitor, used to their dialect of Spanish, and have built “relationships” with these girls. If I spend more time in the city, I have no doubt that I could acomplish the same in Medellin.
[b]Mongering Locations[/b]
Both countries have a thriving massage parlor scene with a wide price range. Prices between the two countries are comparable. Costa Rica has a much more developed bar/club scene with places like the Del Rey, Key Largo, Sportsman's Lodge, and the smaller one's like Sonny's (now “the garden's), New York Bar, etc. There are some after hours bars in Medellin, but I'm am going to have to explore them more thoroughly to offer my opinion.
Colombia, on the other hand, has a MUCH better street scene. You can find some amazingly hot chica in Mayorista and guys that live here know other areas to troll where one can get an even better deal. One girl was willing to do a BJ party for 10K (about $5.50) per guy. For 20K, I'm sure she would let you fuck her brains out and video the whole thing. This chica was 18 years old and if you put her in some nicer clothes and maybe got her hair done, guys would fall over themselves to pay her cien for an hour in the hotel Del Rey.
There are also a lot more strip clubs in Medellin than San Jose, and some wonderful chicas can be found there. I love the tico strip clubs in Costa Rica like molino rojo but the Medellin clubs blow them away. Girls that I ignore in the Medellin clubs I would jump at if they were in San Jose.
[b]Safety[/b]
In many ways Medellin is safer than the San Jose. I would have to say that, specifically, the monger hangouts in Medellin are safer than “gringo gultch” and the places where the tico strip clubs and massage parlors are.
First, there are more people out and stores open late at night in Medellin around monger areas than San Jose. An area with a lot of people and a lot of stores open means multiple witnesses and multiple areas for escape that potential victims can use. It just gives us more options if we see potential problems. This is most true comparing the strip clubs/night action that cater to locals in both countries.
Second, because of the lack of gringos, there are nowhere near as many criminals that make their living targeting tourists in Medellin as San Jose. A criminal in San Jose can (and probably do) make a nice living simply waiting at the most popular routes to and from the hotel Del Rey, looking for some drunk out of his mind gringo stumbling home. The street where New York Bar is might as well be a shark tank. While there are certainly criminals on the streets of Medellin, they are not out hunting SPECIFICALLY us as tourists/mongers.
Third, the government of Medellin has as MUCH MUCH more heightened police presence in and around monger areas than San Jose. Many feel that the government/police just don't care when some monger gets robbed, as opposed to a backpacker or eco-tourist. For example, how many stories have the frequent Costa Rica travelers heard of gringos getting robbed in and around New York Bar. You would think that they would put at least one police car there at night to protect tourists, but they don't. I don't trust the San Jose police as far as I can throw them.
Contrast that with Medellin, where it is not uncommon to see, not only police, but the army patrolling the streets at night. During my last el centro strip club tour there was one area where there weren't quite as many people around and stores open as I would like and I became a bit concerned. Right at that moment about 10 soldiers carrying Galil assault rifles walk down the street in formation. Sure it was coincidence, but the fact that they have these patrols gives me some comfort.
[b]Language[/b]
You definitely need more Spanish in Medellin than San Jose. Simply put, you really don't need Spanish in San Jose, although it helps. Even the folks in the low end, tico bars/massage parlors may speak some English and are used to Gringos coming in. It is more difficult and requires a higher proficiency in Spanish to move around in Medellin, as opposed to San Jose. People are less used to speaking with poor/non-Spanish speakers and don't do as good a job adjusting their language to our limits. Also, expect a few days to get used to the dialect/accent change if you have primarily used your Spanish in Costa Rica.
Accommodations
This is another area were Costa Rica beats Medellin. There are tons of places that are known to be Chica friendly in Costa Rica. The same is probably true for Medellin, but they just are not very well known. Also, you can get a decent room, in a decent hotel, in a good area, close to the chica action, with English speaking staff, that is chica friendly for $35 in Costa Rica. While that may also be true for Medellin, it is much more difficult for a first time visitor to find that type of hotel here. Best choice here, IMHO, is stay at one of the well known places initially and then spend a day looking for other places to stay if you are really looking for a way to save money. My first night I was in a Condo, the next night was VIP2, the rest have been in the Castillo and I intend to finish my trip here.
Later, I will post my opinions on the people, getting around and how much gringo/monger influence I am seeing. Just remember, I'm a newbie and YMMV :).
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[QUOTE=Count Dante]I have been to Costa Rica many times and am in Medellin, on my first trip now so I will offer my opinions. I hit a range of places from high end casas and hooker bars to cheap, local strip clubs, casas and street girls. My Spanish is OK but not very good.(snip) [/QUOTE]A few things I'd add this this very nice initial post:
-it is cheaper to get to SJ than Medellin by air, important for a budget traveler.
-there's absolutely no comparison between SJ and Medellin in terms of city life. SJ is a podunk town and Medellin is a world-class, growing city, very attractive in its red-brick motif.
-the women are so beautiful in Colombia, but SJ has its lookers also. One problem with both places, being relatively wealthy, that is an increasing # of gorditas due to the availability of Mickey Ds, KFC and assorted other fast food restaurants. The poorer city of CTG has better shaped women in general, for example.
-The less gringos and the more spanish spoken the better. But that's me. Just can't seem to go back to SJ, preferring CO and Peru in general, but if airfares keep rising dramatically, I will revisit that opinion.
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[QUOTE=Brazilman]Question to the drug aficionado's here. I dont do drugs and live a pretty clean lifestyle,but i was wondering, what does coke cost americans in colombia.What would 100.00 of coke in the us cost in medellin.Do you pay a gringo tax? Whenever i go to colombia, i would like to chew on a couple of leaves to see what it's like. Where would i go to try that. I have no interest in doing coke, but from what i understand the leaves are pretty harmless.it's when you turn it into powder that it is dangerous. Anyone try the leaves? what was it like?[/QUOTE]Coke costs about 10,000 pesos a gram!! so whats that $6 USD
and a couple of lines of coke is HARDLY dangerous.
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[quote=count dante]i have been to costa rica many times and am in medellin, on my first trip now so i will offer my opinions.[/quote]thanks count! this is a great primer course for me (and others i hope). can anyone add more to this? it would be great for colombia newbies to hear about this stuff.
also, can anyone recommend any decent hotels in medellin from personal experience? i am not a five star hotel person, but i don't feel comfortable in the 1-2 star hotels either. i am looking for safe, centrally located to the action, air conditioning, high speed internet in the rooms, clean, cable or satellite tv. besides continuing on with count's great post can anyone recommend a place to stay in medellin?
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Newbie Questions
Sorry to bother everyone with newbie questions but I need help. I had to cancel a trip to BA due to a broken wrist so now Im changing it to colombia.
I will visit both medellin and cali.
I still have some of my own research to do but I have lodging questions. I won't be staying long enough in either place to get an apt. The responses I have gotten from most hotels via email is in the $70 dollar range for average places. One even mentioned " no prepagos". I've read in a previous post about local hotels for $40.
I know spanish and have stayed in these places before. I dont need glamourous just safe clean and comfortable.
* Or do you think it would make more sense to rent an apartment in medellin for a month then go to cali for only a few days and stay on the cheap with an overnight bag?
Local Hotels :
1. How numerous are they and what is their availabilty on a walk in basis ?
2. Do they tend to be in one area of town ?
3.Would I be crazy not to stay in poblado vs another area maybe even downtown "el centro"?
Also I keep getting refrences to a big fair happening in medellin in july...what a pain in the ass that is. Does anyone know the dates for that ?
Thank you for your help. I look forward to contributing once I am there.
Artisttyp
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[quote=juiceguy]thanks count! this is a great primer course for me (and others i hope). can anyone add more to this? it would be great for colombia newbies to hear about this stuff.
also, can anyone recommend any decent hotels in medellin from personal experience? i am not a five star hotel person, but i don't feel comfortable in the 1-2 star hotels either. i am looking for safe, centrally located to the action, air conditioning, high speed internet in the rooms, clean, cable or satellite tv. besides continuing on with count's great post can anyone recommend a place to stay in medellin?[/quote]the real bargains in medellin, and in all of colombia in fact are in private apartments. you can get much more bang for your buck and have a nice place totally for yourself or with your wingman. go online and do a little searching. i stayed at vips my first trip but for all subsequent trips i have stayed in private apartments and this works best for me.
rainman3
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[quote=juiceguy]thanks count! this is a great primer course for me (and others i hope). can anyone add more to this? it would be great for colombia newbies to hear about this stuff.
also, can anyone recommend any decent hotels in medellin from personal experience? i am not a five star hotel person, but i don't feel comfortable in the 1-2 star hotels either. i am looking for safe, centrally located to the action, air conditioning, high speed internet in the rooms, clean, cable or satellite tv. besides continuing on with count's great post can anyone recommend a place to stay in medellin?[/quote]san fernando plaza, in poblado.
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If you are looking for apartments, you may want to stay at one of the more popular monger hotels at first and spend a day or two looking for apartments. It is a great way to get your bearings on the city and find a good deal. I saw a few guys do this. Also, I like the idea of actually seeing the apartment and talking to the guy who will rent it to me first.
I've found better deals in person here than listed on the net, since lots of folks either don't have sites or haven't updated them recently. You don't have to spend your whole trip in the same place if you don't wan't to. I spent my first day in an apartment (unintentionally), my next day at VIP2, and the rest at the Castillo. Try out different places until you find one you like. Either tommorow or Wednesday, I'm going to spend the day looking at longer term rentals and some condos just to get an idea of the market.
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Interesting Dante, especially the part about safety. The only mongering venue where I've ever been scared was in Medellin, a strip club called La Torre. I was minding my own business and a drunken crazy person decided he wanted to pick a fight with me. I spent some significant time in Medellin 7-8 years ago and haven't been back since. At the time, there were certain neighborhoods where even the police didn't usually go, and when they did it was like a military exercise, what you used to see on TV with U. S. Troops in Iraq. I know the situation has improved a lot since then.
Anyway, although petty crime and muggings in San Jose are a big problem, I've never felt unsafe there. There are a lot of gringo tourists, but you never read about anyone getting killed or kidnapped or drugged with scopolamine in Costa Rica. I'd be much warier in Medellin, although, again, I know the security situation has improved a lot.
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Apt prices
[QUOTE=Count Dante]If you are looking for apartments, you may want to stay at one of the more popular monger hotels at first and spend a day or two looking for apartments. It is a great way to get your bearings on the city and find a good deal. I saw a few guys do this. Also, I like the idea of actually seeing the apartment and talking to the guy who will rent it to me first.
I've found better deals in person here than listed on the net, since lots of folks either don't have sites or haven't updated them recently. You don't have to spend your whole trip in the same place if you don't wan't to. I spent my first day in an apartment (unintentionally), my next day at VIP2, and the rest at the Castillo. Try out different places until you find one you like. Either tommorow or Wednesday, I'm going to spend the day looking at longer term rentals and some condos just to get an idea of the market.[/QUOTE]1. So far I've been getting apt quotes in the $2000 range for the month. Some have been a little lower but that sounds way too high for SA. Is this the norm in Medellin?
2. Can someone verify that there are mid range hotels ($40) and in which neighborhood they might be found ?
3. I also notice hotels are expecting a flower fair and some other convention so is it a wise idea to come with only a few days reserved in a hotel?
* In general how expensive is food cabs and relative costs compared to somewhere like lima or buenos aires ?
I've done alot of reading but it hasn't been that obvious.
Thank you for your help.
Artisttyp
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Medillin Castillo
My first trip to Medellin was fantastic. I stayed at the Castillo, and went to the Pool Party at the Mansion last week.
Do what you want, but I was treated like a king.
[url]www.medellincastillo.com[/url]
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[QUOTE=Highwayman51]My first trip to Medellin was fantastic. I stayed at the Castillo, and went to the Pool Party at the Mansion last week.
Do what you want, but I was treated like a king.
[url]www.medellincastillo.com[/url][/QUOTE]I've been visiting Medellin for years and I've stayed at various hotels, from ritzy to the most economical.
Crazy enough I even stayed with a family (my girlfriend's at the time) in a poor barrio, back when Medellin was a bit rougher.
I came to my senses when I saw a kid shot point blank by a neighborhood gang.
Anyway, now I when I come in, I stay at the CASTILLO.
I like coming in, seeing friendly faces, people I know, laundry done, internet, great breakfast, nice location.
Though I didn't think I'd enjoy meeting other gringos, like me :)
I've actually met some pretty cool cats, fellow explorers like myself, and to my surprise, even one american girl from San Francisco who was pretty cool.
I usually chat with them over breakfast and then go out on my own for the day.
I've brought pros, non-pros, sem-pros ... whoever ... to the Castillo without problem.
For new guys, especially with no spanish skills, you'd be wise to stay at one of the "gringo hotels", at least at first.
The least you'll get is first rate service and great info so as not to spin wheels and waste valuable time while in Medellin.
There have been posters who have made bad comments about the Mansion / Castillo but usually these are the guys who ***** about just about anything or anywhere they go.
Hey, they may not be perfect, they are definitely not the only option, but they definitely have served me nicely and are buena gente (good people).
Have fun out there amigos! Ricker :)
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Medellin.
Well, I have to say, after my recent and continuing journies to Brazil and Argentina (I go back tomorrow to Argentina, then Brazil). And also my escapades in Barranquilla. I finally made it back to Medellin.
I hadn't been back for maybe 6 months or so. And I forgot how much I liked it there! I felt back at home.
Of course not every woman is beautiful there, but man are there some beauties. Beats any place I've visited for the prettiest girls I run into on average. I think Buenos Aires has the most stunning I've ever seen, but Medellin has way more cuties just out and about and way way way more friendly in Medellin.
Anyway, I stayed at el CASTILLO, loved seeing Mr. Castillo and his staff. I think Mr. El Castillo, the owner, is still walking on cloud nine now living in Medellin. He always walks around with a big smile on his face having left behind the prison in the northern part of the Americas.
I got to the city at about 11 am or so from Barranquilla and was really in a mood to visit el Centro. After Barranquilla, I was dying to hold on to a Paisita.
Made it to NEW LIFE. Damnnnnnnn the quality was good. Actually hard to choose. Ended up with a beautiful, Carolina. What a great hour! As I was carressing her about perfect body, and listening to her sighs, I felt so at home in Medellin.
After my time with Carolina, the chicas were lining up to present to another client who had entered, and I spotted another beauty that I had to meet.
I spoke with her for a few minutes, and told her and the guy running the place that I'd be back in an hour to get to know even better my new amiguita especial The dude running the place always greets me like his best friend when I go in. Myself and Roberto of the Mansion were the first gringos to find this place years back
Anyway, I came back to see the other chica. She too was espactacular. The first chica was porn star activities and this second one was sweet and loving and GFE like.
So. I got her phone number and took her out to dinner when she got off work. Now she's my friend
Great day in Medellin!
Had some night time fun experiences too. Next post coming.
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Medellin - apartments and clubs - first impressions after 2 days
Been here 2. 5 days. I looked for apartments on the web searching "rent apartment Medellin" on both Google.com US and Google.com. Co for Columbia. If you speak/read Spanish there are more non-US owners on the Spanish side.
I've gotten 1-2 bedroom apartment quotes from $45 to $65 US. I've stayed for $55US and $50US in very nice apartments in Poblado. Had trouble finding anything cheaper than that. I speak intermediate Spanish so I figured I'd save a little and go solo. One realtor is TuAmblodo.com who owns 12 or so apartments in Oveida Plaza and rents to many English speaking people. Owner doesn't speak English but her son does.
I had difficulty trying to find apartment rentals outside of Poblado on the Internet. Poblado is Medellin but it is very much like a suburb. It does not have the heavy foot traffic on the street that Buenos Aires or Santiago have. Even to get a soda, it can be several blocks walk. However, Pobablado is a very nice neighborhood and reportedly the safest in Medellin.
I had my ISG lists on clubs and casas (thanks to all who contributed), though I asked several taxi drivers for their opinion on which place was the best for young, attractive chicas. Two of them recommended Lejano Oriente, which hasn't generated much talk yet. I have not yet tried it but probably will before my two weeks is over. I went to Fase II Monday night and they had about 14 chicas, overall very good looking. Many 8's and 9's, a few 7's and maybe 1 or 2 6's. Price was $150K for 50 minutes on site and another 10 minutes allotted for showering and dressing. Several of the best chicas were taken home (believe multa is $150K). Chicas dance on a nice stage and strip naked, however after their turn they put jeans and less revealing clothes back on as they hangout. So if you want to see the full package before you purchase something you make wait 2 hours or more before you girl has her turn. Overall, very impressed by chica looks but I did sense some "I'm pretty and I know it attitude". Paid $10K cover, $5K coke, $12K beer. No session.
Walked down to San Diego, about 3. 5 blocks up Avenida Poblado. First night doorman hounded me to by a drink 3 times in 10 minutes and I left. 2nd night I immediate bought a water ($10K) and let it sit untouched for 3 hours to stick it up the ass of the doorman. The longer I sat there, the more impressed I was with the chicas (and I wasn't drinking anything). I was there about 4 hours. Many chicas looked much, much better on stage than in there clothes. I asked a chica I was not interested in on prices. She quoted $120K for 30 minutes. I thought WTF, it is $150 for 50 minutes at F2. I told her so and she went to $100K and then $80K, she said was the very buttom price. Hmmmm? She also said the multa varies depending on the hour of night.
There was a beautiful Phoebe Cates like 19-yo who was occupied most of the night. Finally when she freed up I chatted with her. She did not DFK and that turned me sour to her. She had a very big chest (though many clothes) and said she was all natural. Another stunner was Alejandra, dark morena which perfect tetas de siloconas and a nice plump ass. I asked her her price. She quoted $120K for 40 minutes. I asked her about $30 minutes and she said $100K. I told her the F2 prices and then she promptly got up and left me.
How does a more raggedy-looking club figure the chicas charge more?
Later I sessioned with a 20yo Salome, who was a small spinner with beautiful legs, and nice B-cups. She was friendly and has a 10month year old baby. Some stretch marks on her stomach but rest of body is very fine. She insisted on condom for everything. I paid $100K for 30 min. She was headed out the door and she did not want to negotiate. After watching chicas for 4 hours, I had to release the pressure and enjoyed myself thorouglyl.
Prior to F2, I went to casa Hotel Ejectivo on a taxista's recommendation. About 16 chicas, nice rooms, 2 very attractive chicas, say 9's edging on 9. 5. I selected the younger of the two, 22yo. She was tall, nice full butt and huge man-made rockets up top. I had been with many small breasted women in Cartagena and now was the time to experience man's finest. I interview #1 to test chemistry and it is there. She's open to BBBJ and DFK. About 8 minutes into the session, she tells me to "esperate / wait" about taking off her shirt. I tell her I want to see them. She tells me she recently had the surgery and they are sensitive. I say, "well, will I be able to touch them? " She says yes, but 4 more minutes and the shirt is still on. I give her an ultimatum and she refuses to take the shirt off.
I quickly dress, go out to the mamasan and ask for my $120K. [ Original quote was $140K, I bargain down to $120K but still feel I was gringo-priced somewhat. However, based on the looks of the two I was quite willing to take that price, better than almost all escorts I've seen on websites, and this was in person]. Mamasan tries some mickey-mouse game saying they can only refund $80K because I went in the room. I try 2nd hot chica but there is not chemistry and I can nearly see $$ in her eyes and running shoes on her feet. After about 20 minutes of them pleading with me that they can't give my my full refund, they finally give it to me.
Question about prepago's? Where does one find them in Medellin? Besides VIP and the Mansion, I haven't heard much about a known bar where they can be found. I'd love to find the La Dolce Vita of Medellin. Great thing about LDV is no cover charge, no minimum consumption, no multa to leave, 100% independent and negotiable. I've been around Oveida mall, walked around El Centro and none are obvious (excluding SWs).
I'm in town until April 20th if anyone wants to hangout and/or share stories (PM me).
Kyle
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My months im Medellin as a wannabe Hefner...
So off we go. I've rented the biggest penthouse Albert has / 4000m2, 2 floor and private juzuzzi on the top. In Poblado. I live solo hear now as my friends are back a while in Sweden. I'm gonna enjoy my life good. Managed to hook up more than 100girls on on msn through cupid and amigos. I've only had time to meet 2 of them so far. Real nice and sexy girls. But they always show up with a amiga. So if any of you can contribute with even more girls, I have the place to take care of the business and we both gain, jajaja Well I am just starting off, today with the maid wanting to fuck,
Well I hope I can get into contact with "players" here in Medellin, so we can run our little tour together.
Gotta sleep now, got a silicon 19 chica, gorgeous tomorrow, I shall cook for her and bye the Wine, a lot of it. But she comes with an amiga so it is for sure a katolic date.
Well try to post here from time to time, shoot me a mail: fbergman76athotmail.com
Chao and good hunting
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Kyle
It is not a good idea to walk from F2 to San Diego at night.
There is no LDV in MDE. There are areas like Mayorista in Itagui and the Botero Plaza area in Centro for street girls. Your best bet is the casa. If you don't know the area and you are alone, leave the street girls alone.
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[QUOTE=Kyle Fox]Question about prepago's? Where does one find them in Medellin? Besides VIP and the Mansion, I haven't heard much about a known bar where they can be found. I'd love to find the La Dolce Vita of Medellin. Great thing about LDV is no cover charge, no minimum consumption, no multa to leave, 100% independent and negotiable. I've been around Oveida mall, walked around El Centro and none are obvious (excluding SWs).[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing dude. Sounds like you are having an ok time there. As far as the prepago scene that you are looking for which compares to LDV, there isn't anything that compares here.
I pull lots of those super fine pre-pagos out of the discos like Kasa, Carnaval, Babylon, etc. But you can't go in there as a monger looking to get laid. Those girls want the whole experience -- you'll need to court them (i.e. chat them 'em, charm them, etc.), dance with them and make them have a great time. So what's the difference between them and a regular girl if you have to do all this work? Unlike a regular girl, with a prepago you are definitely getting some ass. The better you charm them, the cheaper you pay (usually I hit them off with 100k TLN and they are happy).
If you're a fat gringo with little game, stick to the known spots. If you are adventurous, try taking a taxistas recommendation, but never throw caution to the wind. It is very easy to become a victim here.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]1. So far I've been getting apt quotes in the $2000 range for the month. Some have been a little lower but that sounds way too high for SA. Is this the norm in Medellin?
2. Can someone verify that there are mid range hotels ($40) and in which neighborhood they might be found ?
3. I also notice hotels are expecting a flower fair and some other convention so is it a wise idea to come with only a few days reserved in a hotel?
* In general how expensive is food cabs and relative costs compared to somewhere like lima or buenos aires ?
I've done alot of reading but it hasn't been that obvious.
Thank you for your help.
Artisttyp[/QUOTE]1. You can find cheaper apartments in MDE.- it will take you about 3-5 days of hunting. Best bet is book yourself in a Hotel (I like to stay at the Sheraton) and then meet with some local realtors. You are not going to have much luck doing it from outside of the country b/c the realtors don't like to waste their time. Also, if you only need the apartment for less than three months, it will be tough to find something at a cheap price (I. E. Under $800/mt).
2. Midrange hotels all over the city. Pick an area you would like to stay and have your taxi driver take you to the area to check out some hotels.
3. The feri de las flores is a VERY busy time in MDE. I would advise coming down a few weeks before to secure a place to stay. Prices also go up. It's a bit like going down to Salvador or Rio in Brasil for Carnaval.
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Kyle Fox,
I think there is a place near Las Plamas.
If you wanna be my wing man, we can check it out [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]
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[QUOTE=JacobGlobo]Hi,
Can some body write me the address of New Life?
Thanks,
Jacob[/QUOTE]Address is: Cl 56 #43-39, 2nd floor
Jim
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[QUOTE=Kyle Fox]Been here 2. 5 days.
I've gotten 1-2 bedroom apartment quotes from $45 to $65 US. I've stayed for $55US and $50US in very nice apartments in Poblado.
I asked several taxi drivers for their opinion on which place was the best for young, attractive chicas. Two of them recommended Lejano Oriente, which hasn't generated much talk yet.
Walked down to San Diego,...
I told her the F2 prices and then she promptly got up and left me.
How does a more raggedy-looking club figure the chicas charge more?
Prior to F2, I went to casa Hotel Ejectivo on a taxista's recommendation. About 16 chicas, nice rooms, 2 very attractive chicas, say 9's edging on 9. 5.
Question about prepago's? Where does one find them in Medellin? Besides VIP and the Mansion, I haven't heard much about a known bar where they can be found. I'd love to find the La Dolce Vita of Medellin. Great thing about LDV is no cover charge, no minimum consumption, no multa to leave, 100% independent and negotiable. I've been around Oveida mall, walked around El Centro and none are obvious (excluding SWs).
I'm in town until April 20th if anyone wants to hangout and/or share stories (PM me).
Kyle[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reporting! Those taxi drivers recommended Lejano Oriente because they get a tip for bringing you there (probably added to your entrance fee) I would love to learn more about the 1 or 2 bedroom apts for $50-55 per night that you found. If you have a website, pictures or contact info please PM me (especially if they have internet connection in the apt.)
Never heard of Hotel Ejectivo and I am not a fan of silicon so this would not be a place you would recommend, correct? Sounds like you don't mind having a session at a casa, have you gone to the Centro Massage places yet? Venus, Kamasutra, New Life, etc. 40K - 60K a session is easier to swallow.
Let us know if you have any luck bringing chicas back to the apartment.
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[QUOTE=Theevilone]So off we go. I've rented the biggest penthouse Albert has / 4000m2, 2 floor and private juzuzzi on the top. In Poblado.....[/QUOTE]Are you talking about Albert's 5 bedroom place that is on the 10th floor, with the Jacuzzi on the Balconey and the GREAT view of all of Medellin? I stayed there one night and it was NICE! I brought a girl from Mayorista there and she almost passed out when she saw the place. I must say, that was one of the most badass designed penthouses I've ever been in.
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This trip in Medellin has been GAY, Expensive and i have met some of the worst women so far, things are getting expensive, and stupid gringos from the states and coming here and making it worse! But heres some pics
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]This trip in Medellin has been GAY, Expensive and i have met some of the worst women so far, things are getting expensive, and stupid gringos from the states and coming here and making it worse! But heres some pics[/QUOTE]Yes, but this has been the general census over the past two years now, so tell us something we dont know. LOL. The lady is very nice but im afraid to ask how much?
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Keeping prices in check in Medellin
[QUOTE=Count Dante]Are you talking about Albert's 5 bedroom place that is on the 10th floor, with the Jacuzzi on the Balconey and the GREAT view of all of Medellin? I stayed there one night and it was NICE! I brought a girl from Mayorista there and she almost passed out when she saw the place. I must say, that was one of the most badass designed penthouses I've ever been in.[/QUOTE]Hello Gents,
Cubanut here reporting from Viet Nam.
I still browse this forum and must say this post caught my eye.
I was just thinking why someone would go through the cost of renting a luxury place then go after bargain basement poon?
Mayoritas girls are some of my favorites but I don't take them out of their enviroment. Hot Mayorista girls can easily become Hot AND Expensive Mayorista girls.
This reminds me of a story about two years ago of a monger who was riding around Calle 53 in a taxi trying to get a hot street girl to go to his hotel. Although her asking price on the street was $30, 000 cop short time. She did not want to leave the area. He uped the price to $200, 000 cop short time and she would still not go. So he goes around the block a couple of times then spots another hot chica. He rolls down the window and asks how much short time is and she replies $200, 000 cop! Word got around fast on the streets of a high paying gringo driving around in a taxi.
Anyway, do what you want because Medillin is still a great place but not the bargain it was not to long ago.
I've been traveling around Hong Kong, Macau, Philippine Islands, Thailand and like I said, I am in Viet Nam now where I must say the girls are absolutely beautiful! Photo sessions have been a plenty! I'll be posting some reports in the Asia section as soon as I get back home next week.
I'll also be heading to Medellin in a few weeks and hope to continue meeting and photographing some of the prettiest Paisas there.
Cheers,
Cubanut
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]This trip in Medellin has been GAY, Expensive and i have met some of the worst women so far, things are getting expensive, and stupid gringos from the states and coming here and making it worse! But heres some pics[/QUOTE]Pretty hot chick. Awesome tits. In light of your above report, please give some details such as:
Where did you find her?
Is she pro or a semi-pro-prepago type?
How was her attitude & performance?
Time & money spent?
Thanks,
Schwmm
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[QUOTE=Almotu]Thanks for your reporting! Those taxi drivers recommended Lejano Oriente because they get a tip for bringing you there (probably added to your entrance fee) I would love to learn more about the 1 or 2 bedroom apts for $50-55 per night that you found. If you have a website, pictures or contact info please PM me (especially if they have internet connection in the apt.)
Never heard of Hotel Ejectivo and I am not a fan of silicon so this would not be a place you would recommend, correct? Sounds like you don't mind having a session at a casa, have you gone to the Centro Massage places yet? Venus, Kamasutra, New Life, etc. 40K - 60K a session is easier to swallow.
Let us know if you have any luck bringing chicas back to the apartment.[/QUOTE]Just use the map and get dropped off at the corner. It is that easy.
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]This trip in Medellin has been GAY, Expensive and i have met some of the worst women so far, things are getting expensive, and stupid gringos from the states and coming here and making it worse! But heres some pics[/QUOTE]Last trip I had a rotation of 12 Paisas coming thru and they ranged from 40,000 to 150,000 depending on the lenghth of stay. For me this place just gets better and better.
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[QUOTE=Cubanut]I was just thinking why someone would go through the cost of renting a luxury place then go after bargain basement poon?
Mayoritas girls are some of my favorites but I don't take them out of their enviroment. Hot Mayorista girls can easily become Hot AND Expensive Mayorista girls.[/QUOTE]I was staying at the penthouse for a night because my room at VIP2 wasn't ready yet, so they put me in there. The penthouse would be great for about 4 or 5 guys mongering together.
Regarding a girl trying to increase her price, at the end of the day WE are the one's with the power. If a girl tried that bullshit with me I would just kick her ass out. I'm not the one that is going to go home hungry or jonesing for a fix if I don't turn a trick. Chicas will always try to get over on you. The question is do you let them or do you hold your ground. She may think for a second that she can squeeze you for more money because you are a tourist or are staying in a nice place, but it is up to you to set her straight.
At the end of the day I got 1. 5 hours with photos and video for 40K. Not bad for my first 3 hours in Colombia. But I'm just a newbie at this whole Colombia scene.
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Exp. Monger overthere
Cubanut,
I salute in respect to your awsome photos, and many years of battle experience. And I agree I know many gringos who purchase penthouse apartment or rentals, drive around in new cars, but frequent centrol for 20, 000 COP pussy. Sometimes it doesn't make sense. In one part good for them because they are hunting for bargins and good deals, but another why drive up the prices of apartment rentals and hotels. And why all the fuss about luxuary apartments to impress 20K street *****s. Probably along the same line as guys who want attention and respect for the things that they have, and realize that these street *****s (whom have nothing) will be impressed by the luxuary or something. Whatever, it is what it is.
"Last trip I had a rotation of 12 Paisas coming thru and they ranged from 40, 000 to 150, 000 depending on the lenghth of stay. For me this place just gets better and better. "
Well I have had probly 30 plus paisas in 60 days, prices ranged from 40, 000 to 200,000 depending on the service and time, but its not getting laid thats the issue, its the prices quoted, the service, the length of time, this trip has been full of bad service, girls wanting to leave early, girls quoting crazy prices, quality overall has been down, but all this is my opinion and isn't really worth much, some guy might think 300K is a steal, and might thank his lucky stars that he got laid this year. Non pros, horrible, many money grubbers, many scams, but again, my opinion someone might be joyfull at the fact that he can take out his "girl" and her 4 sisters to mangos and only pay 600K for the night, or dinners. Then mail her a check monthly! Shit after 3 dates with a girl I was hit up for a 700K "loan" to pay her bussniess rental. WOW bottom line is things arnt cheap here, girls have many more oppertunity with more gringos to fleece, P4P is expensive, its harder to pull girls out especially the ones I like, makes me wonder about greener pastures. Or actually get a girlfriend, dear godat!
As for the photos: One is Sophia, who works at Loutron. My buddy from the states had her. He said she was a good screw. I tried it twice, outside house calls, 120K for a few hours. I had her twice took some pics. She wasnt that worth it. She wanted full Loutron price but I brought it down! She does live in Bello, or so she says.
Second picture is a girl from S. D. I called her outside of work on a Monday or Tuesday for 250K which was supposed to be till 8 AM but come 530AM it was time to go. She was a awsome screw, tarrific ass, normal I like to pay 200K for TLN, but I went with 50K extra. I she threw in the photos as compesation for leaving early, although she did wake me up with a BJ to leave, I wouldn't do her again as becuase I don't like waking up at 5AM
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Hello Gents,
Cubanut here reporting from Viet Nam.
I still browse this forum and must say this post caught my eye.
I was just thinking why someone would go through the cost of renting a luxury place then go after bargain basement poon?
Mayoritas girls are some of my favorites but I don't take them out of their enviroment. Hot Mayorista girls can easily become Hot AND Expensive Mayorista girls.
This reminds me of a story about two years ago of a monger who was riding around Calle 53 in a taxi trying to get a hot street girl to go to his hotel. Although her asking price on the street was $30, 000 cop short time. She did not want to leave the area. He uped the price to $200, 000 cop short time and she would still not go. So he goes around the block a couple of times then spots another hot chica. He rolls down the window and asks how much short time is and she replies $200, 000 cop! Word got around fast on the streets of a high paying gringo driving around in a taxi.
Anyway, do what you want because Medillin is still a great place but not the bargain it was not to long ago.
I've been traveling around Hong Kong, Macau, Philippine Islands, Thailand and like I said, I am in Viet Nam now where I must say the girls are absolutely beautiful! Photo sessions have been a plenty! I'll be posting some reports in the Asia section as soon as I get back home next week.
I'll also be heading to Medellin in a few weeks and hope to continue meeting and photographing some of the prettiest Paisas there.
Cheers,
Cubanut[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kyle Fox]I asked her about $30 minutes and she said $100K. I told her the F2 prices and then she promptly got up and left me.
About 8 minutes into the session, she tells me to "esperate / wait" about taking off her shirt. I tell her I want to see them. She tells me she recently had the surgery and they are sensitive. I say, "well, will I be able to touch them? " She says yes, but 4 more minutes and the shirt is still on. I give her an ultimatum and she refuses to take the shirt off.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you handled these well. The first chick that walked off would have been a lousy lay anyways from the sound of it. The second one that wouldn't take off her shirt wasn't going to get any better either. Sounds like they've both been in the game too long. Those are the types of chicks that make me really gun-shy with the whole mongering scene. Sounds like a number of pros working that place. I had a chick (colombian) back 6-7 years ago in San Jose, CR that had just had her tits done and was real sensitive. She wouldn't let me touch her at all either. Turned me off right away. Kicked her out pretty quick.
LDV is nice in that you can just hangout, have a drink and check out the girls and take your time. With no salida and no intervention from LDV though, you're basically SOL if the chick turns out to be a dud. I have pulled a few duds out of there and pulled a few good ones. They are a real crapshoot.
David
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Newbie Question
Hey everyone. I just booked a flight to Medellin, from 5/22-5/26. I have an important question, and couldn't seem to find the answer in any of the trip reports and search function.
I know that in 1994, Colombia passed a law regarding possession of marijuana and cocaine (25g and 1g legal). However, I read that the current presdient vetoed legislation to increase the amount of possession in 2004. So, my question is: what are the current drug laws in Colombia? Also, how easy, or difficult, is to buy?
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[QUOTE=Count Dante]I was staying at the penthouse for a night because my room at VIP2 wasn't ready yet, so they put me in there. The penthouse would be great for about 4 or 5 guys mongering together.
Regarding a girl trying to increase her price, at the end of the day WE are the one's with the power. If a girl tried that bullshit with me I would just kick her ass out. I'm not the one that is going to go home hungry or jonesing for a fix if I don't turn a trick. Chicas will always try to get over on you. The question is do you let them or do you hold your ground. She may think for a second that she can squeeze you for more money because you are a tourist or are staying in a nice place, but it is up to you to set her straight.
At the end of the day I got 1. 5 hours with photos and video for 40K. Not bad for my first 3 hours in Colombia. But I'm just a newbie at this whole Colombia scene.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you did real good there Count Dante. I would think that bringing a hot girl from a low end place to a real nice hotel or Penthouse like VIP set you up in, then you would get better service from her, call it the WOW factor, than say taking a high end girl down to a shitty hotel room.
Think about it, most of the street girls in Mayorista stay in that area and work out of hot sheet hotel rooms. Give them a taste of the better life and some of them will reward you for it. Sounds like this one did. However like most things the word will get out, and one of the girls that has spent time at any of the other "Monger hotels" will correct her sister and make sure she up's the price in the future.
I saw that happen first hand with a girl in myself. I think I paid her around $50 for a TLN, and 2 days latter I overheard her asking $100 for the same thing from another fellow.
RG.
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Another Wonderful Trip to Medellin
My 3rd time to Medellin was last week April 7th-11th. Another great trip. As always Boyd at El Castillo made us feel at home. Went to New Life in El Centro and selected Erica from a line of 12 woman. 6 of them were good to great looking. I was impressed with this place. For 45K, it was the best investment I have made during this trip.
Went to Lutron and their selection did not impress me. With 170K plus 10K for a beer, it was as mechanical as it can get. I had to take my friend there since it was his first time in Medellin and most gringos go bananas over Lutron. I don't think I will ever go back.
We hang around at the Mansion and selected different girls. These girls were good. From 100K to 150K, they were the best GFE babes in Medellin.
I can't wait to get back to Medellin again. Thank you Boyd and the Castillo gang for all your help.
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[QUOTE=Halcyon901]Hey everyone. I just booked a flight to Medellin, from 5/22-5/26. I have an important question, and couldn't seem to find the answer in any of the trip reports and search function.
I know that in 1994, Colombia passed a law regarding possession of marijuana and cocaine (25g and 1g legal). However, I read that the current presdient vetoed legislation to increase the amount of possession in 2004. So, my question is: what are the current drug laws in Colombia? Also, how easy, or difficult, is to buy?[/QUOTE]
Surely you jest. No matter what the drug laws are in Colombia, do you think that any foreigner can possess any amount without big problems?
Nothing is easy in Colombia, except sex and drugs.
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Call for Boycot!
If all you Mongers would try and boycot San Diego they might get the hint that they are doing something wrong. I am sick and tired of reading about newbies going there and getting quoted 150, 000 for 40 minutes. All who live here know the place stinks of overcharges, bad rooms, stuck up chicas, the owner hounds the staff to hustle the drinks and girls, the place sucks, and in a bad way! Avoid this club at all cost, I know I was a victim once upon a time!
Happy Mongering to all, shout out to BlackSultan rocking DR as I write.
Chipper
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Another TLN con Paola, Queen of porn
I was free that afternoon and decided to go back to the King’s of Spain library to make picture as my first visit there have only been with my cell that made very poor pictures.
I called Karen and asked her if she wanted to go with me.
She said yes, but she had an appointment that night (with Acuerpado’s friends).
That was not a problem as I wanted to repeat my queen of porn : Paola.
I called Paola and ask her if she was free and willing to see me that night and she was both.
I then rushed out to attend my date with Karen and took the metro till the Caribe station and from there, after kissing, we left till the Metro cable to finally reach the Kings of Spain’s library on the top of the hill. Unfortunately, it was raining and I couldn’t make shots through the window full of rain drops.
We walk till the library but the weather was very humid and cloudy so I had difficulties to find a good place to take pictures.
After that, we decided to find the last library we hadn’t visit so far, Belen Carrera 76 18A-19 and took a taxi till there.
But it was written that it wouldn’t be our day. When we arrived to the library we found it under construction. Seems that it will take some more months before it will open.
After that we decided to go back to the centre. Karen had to call friends to attend her customers for the night and she starts to call her friends.
As she was unable to locate Camila (see my 2 previous reports on her), we decided to look for her at her working place. Problem was that we had no address and had to look for a lot of bars in the centre till we finally found her.
She was surprised and glad to see us. She walked out of her bar and despite the bar boss’s protests she remained with us for 10 good minutes. She accepted to go with Karen to meet the guys that night.
Camila went back in her Bar, and as it was almost 8pm, I called Paola and we decided to have supper the 3 of us in the centre.
Meanwhile Paola would arrive, Karen kept searching for some free friends to attend the late party.
We met at Junin and had supper in one of the cafeteria del centro.
Boys, that’s another advantage of mongering : you can have supper with several girls you “know” at the same time without having a drama.
Once the supper finished, we both kissed good bye Karen and left till my hotel (Leblon Suites).
Paola had a small problem with her left foot as she twisted her ankle 2 days before and it was still painful and she couldn’t walk very well.
I told her to remain calm as she wouldn’t need her foot for our future activity…
The Leblon Suites registered her (50K) and we went till my room.
That time I asked for a room at the other side of the hotel so I would have less noise form the Poblado Avenue.
But still, it is very noisy and the traffic wouldn’t let me sleep well.
As soon as we arrived in the room we both start the activity.
No shower, no clothes off, no drink, directly DFK, fingering and sex.
I had to remain very focused for not coming in the first 15 minutes, but after that I was hard and not willing to come. This is for me the best moment as I can screw for hours and will probably not come. Just the pure joy of sex.
After maybe 30 minutes we finally took our clothes off and decided to have a quick shower. As she had her foot problem, Paola asked me not to shower with her that time.
So I showered after her and we then went immediately back to activity.
Well, you already know all my favourites activity; we made them all. I gave her my best DATY and she came with no problem. She told me that she was feeling so good when my tongue was licking her clit and pussy and that she was thankful that I made her come each time. She was still not willing to let me enter her ass but promised her hell’s hole for our next meeting.
I will surely recall that to her.
She was disappointed that I had not burn her a CD with the pictures and movies from our precedent meetings. I promised it for our next meeting.
After screwing a lot in our favourite position, I laid down on my back and invite Paola to her beloved BBBJ. She wanted me to CIM. I told her that I would try, knowing that I have extreme difficulties to control myself when I come.
I don’t know how long she blew me, but I remember that I was in heaven as she is very good at it.
Finally, I couldn’t resist any more and explode partly in her mouth. She was half disappointed as she only had drops to drink.
I think it was 2am then and as we were both tired after 4 hours of activity we start to sleep.
I walk up around 6 and I was still stiff !!!
Poor Paola; I waked her up and we did it again for 2 hours.
Once again she finished me with her spectacular BBBJ and this time she didn’t loose the opportunity to have some milk for her breakfast.
We then washed and got dressed. I invite her to have breakfast with me and she accepted even if she was ashamed to go down to the restaurant with her unsleeping face.
After a nice breakfast, we called a taxi for her and I gave her a goodbye kiss + 170K.
This time she said Thanks and left.
I have made 2 movies with Paola :
1) 2008-03-06_Mde-Paola'sFuckISG.mp4
Size : 16,1Mo
Length : 2’10”
Quality : Average, as I had problem to focus the camera while I was screwing and fingering that too tempting ass.
2) 2008-03-06_Mde-Paola'sBBBJ&FingeringMeISG.mp4
Size : 71,4Mo
Length : 9’35”
Quality : Ok, my first blured face movie, very long and very good… Please, notice that I was the guy on the movie and that I had to make the movie at the same time without really seeing what I was shooting.
If you can’t stand to see a guy fingered by his girl, stop at the half of the movie…
[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK73004804b52024016[/url]
I have remained several weeks without posting as I didn’t want to show girl’s face on my movies, so I had to found how to blur a face on a movie and it is a very long operation.
I have learned how to use Adobe Premiere Pro… It’s a little difficult at the beginning, but after some hours, I could understand how it goes and have been able to produce an acceptable movie.
As the Premiere’s xvid codec produces bad result (or maybe I am enable to configure it correctly), I choose a new one : H.264.
Sound is no longer in mp3 but in AAC.
Both are very used on the net so you shouldn’t have problems to see the movie.
If you do, please go on this site and download their codec package for installing it.
[url]http://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm[/url]
Cheers
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More picture of my meeting with Paola.
Last set of pictures from Paola.
Enjoy.
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Pain of Cash San diego style
OK, the owner tries and push a 1/2 bottle on thursdays fridays and saturdays, they charge no cover, beer is 10K (5.50USD) 1/2 bottles Rum are 45K with coke, the rooms arnt nice, they do the job but its not pleasent, this 30mins is bullshit, you take as long as you need and if there still time i make the girls shower very slowly for my enjoyment!!!! nomral it should be 80K to 100K for 45minutes but many girls will quote gringos 150K for 30 mins....
Multa is 150K, TLN can be had for 200K maybe 150K but i doubt it, things have changed in colombia, and medellin and san diego grill show!! i hope they didnt missspell "girl" i still frequent sandiego but i pay 100K i take my time and i make a huge fuss if i am rushed, dont do take out any more, its close to 100 bucks for just the multa!!!!normally go there to get #s and make outside arrangments, quality of girls is ok, there are two hotties there w/ fake tits asses ect... poal wants me to take one in the back, rumor in the place is those hotties suck in bed!
[QUOTE=Jchipper]If all you Mongers would try and boycot San Diego they might get the hint that they are doing something wrong. I am sick and tired of reading about newbies going there and getting quoted 150, 000 for 40 minutes. All who live here know the place stinks of overcharges, bad rooms, stuck up chicas, the owner hounds the staff to hustle the drinks and girls, the place sucks, and in a bad way! Avoid this club at all cost, I know I was a victim once upon a time!
Happy Mongering to all, shout out to BlackSultan rocking DR as I write.
Chipper[/QUOTE]
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I concur
I took my first trip to Medellin a couple of weeks ago, after many trips to CR and the DR. Without a doubt, my experience with the people at the Castillo is the best! The pool party at the Mansion is not to be missed!
I found one, two, or three, and hung around the Castillo almost all week. No reason to leave. Just eat, drink, and use the phone. Rest when convenient.
[QUOTE=Fresh Face]My 3rd time to Medellin was last week April 7th-11th. Another great trip. As always Boyd at El Castillo made us feel at home. Went to New Life in El Centro and selected Erica from a line of 12 woman. 6 of them were good to great looking. I was impressed with this place. For 45K, it was the best investment I have made during this trip.
Went to Lutron and their selection did not impress me. With 170K plus 10K for a beer, it was as mechanical as it can get. I had to take my friend there since it was his first time in Medellin and most gringos go bananas over Lutron. I don't think I will ever go back.
We hang around at the Mansion and selected different girls. These girls were good. From 100K to 150K, they were the best GFE babes in Medellin.
I can't wait to get back to Medellin again. Thank you Boyd and the Castillo gang for all your help.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jchipper]If all you Mongers would try and boycot San Diego they might get the hint that they are doing something wrong. I am sick and tired of reading about newbies going there and getting quoted 150, 000 for 40 minutes. All who live here know the place stinks of overcharges, bad rooms, stuck up chicas, the owner hounds the staff to hustle the drinks and girls, the place sucks, and in a bad way! Avoid this club at all cost, I know I was a victim once upon a time!
Happy Mongering to all, shout out to BlackSultan rocking DR as I write.
Chipper[/QUOTE]I don't know what a gringo monger boycott will do. Every day I went there the place was reasonably full, and more importantly, myself and my wingman were the only gringos that I saw in the place.
Sure, I had a girl try that 150K crap with me. I told her that I knew what the prices where here and it dropped to 100k. Was OK, but I've had better. I have had girls in the el centro clubs try the same crap, 80-100K for 30 mins. I tell them I know the rates and it drops to 50K or less. One thing I notice about the strip clubs is that many of these girls aren't getting taken to to the back for 30 min sessions very often.
Once again, WE ARE IN CONTROL HERE. We have the money, and if a girl doesn't like our price, we just go to another of the 2 dozen strip clubs or 50 MPs and casas in Medellin. The problem arises when guys get tunnel vision on one girl and "have to have her". Then they start agreeing to all kinds of shit. I will admit that that has happened to me before and I have learned from it.
Personally, while the girls in San Diego were hot, the exit fee was so outragous that I don't think I would ever bother taking a girl out of the club like that. Much easier to get her (or the 20 other working chicas that look like her in Medellin) number and call her later.
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Boycott?
[QUOTE=Jchipper]If all you Mongers would try and Boycot San Diego they might get the hint that they are doing something wrong. I am sick and tired of reading about newbies going there and getting quoted 150, 000 for 40 minutes. All who live here know the place stinks of overcharges, bad rooms, stuck up chicas, the owner hounds the staff to hustle the drinks and girls, the place sucks, and in a bad way! Avoid this club at all cost, I know I was a victim once upon a time!
Chipper[/QUOTE]Gents,
It would take more than just foreign mongers to Boycott any San Diego or Medellin girlie location for that matter to make a difference. Look around you the next time you are in SD and you will see that 95% of the customers or better are Colombians.
A true Boycott would be to stay away from Medellin altogether. So where is a Monger to go?
As for me I love Medellin but man places like Angeles City can quickly make you forget the high prices and bad services of Medellin Paisas which is becoming all to frequent.
Took this photo last week at the Doll House in Angeles City at the Tuesday body paint show. The Doll House is open 24 hours and girls range from $35usd to $70usd for all night. The highest $70usd rate is when you take a painted girl on Tuesday. However, the same girl is only $48usd any other day when she is not painted up. About 200 girls work the Doll House throughout the day and night. Any night though the girls give the same GFE action in the sack. The newest girlie joint is Atlantis which is slightly higher in rate but has better quality as well but less quantity (about 100 girls at night only). Atlantis also has a painted girl show on Wednesday nights. Other big establishments like Nero's houses about 250 girls with wild shows nightly.
Cheers,
Cubanut
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The owners aren't stupid. They know what's going on what with the guys and the chicas hooking up outside and after the club shuts down. I can sort of understand their point of view, from a businessman's perspective. They've put I imagine at least 50-100 million pesos into the venue, but if people are hooking up outside, they're going to respond by keeping a closer eye on the girls and jacking up the prices of multas and drinks.
If they've created a venue for you to hook up with prepagas, they need a piece of the action. 10K pesos for a beer is not enough to keep them open for business! :)
So you end up in a vicious cycle and it sucks. I'm not sure if anything can be done about this.
When I visit these kinds of places I try to talk and introduce myself to the manager/owner/mamasan (I speak fluent Spanish) because I don't like the idea of being a complete stranger to the owner/manager, especially if I'm coming in alone.
I also usually try to talk to the doorman or one of the waiters/bartenders about prices and girls. I either session inside or do a take-out with the multa at least once. . . so I demonstrate to the owners and the guys that work there I'm not a complete flake or cheapskate.
Maybe that's stupid of me because it costs me more upfront. But I'd rather have them think of me as a good customer as opposed to a cheapo or an overpaying sucker. I figure that might help me in some way in the future. And in any case, this is still Colombia and I don't think it's a good idea to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off any of the locals, especially the ones that work in these kinds of venues.
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[QUOTE=Halcyon901]what are the current drug laws in Colombia? Also, how easy, or difficult, is to buy?[/QUOTE]The first question I wouldn't even bother asking. If you run afoul of the authorities with drugs on you, you're fucked. DO NOT CARRY DRUGS. Do the deal discreetly, in a bar or small restaurant (sometimes even convenience store!) and proceed DIRECTLY back to your room.
Particularly in Cartagena. Close to LDV on the main street is a sort of Police kiosk. My friends and I (who look like young americans) have been stopped repeatedly here and searched for drugs, once by a scary-looking commander-type who was playing with this HUGE bowie knife.
As long as you practice common sense, drugs are ridiculously easy to buy. If you don't have a connection, the best (and safest) way is to ask the girls. I used to ask taxi drivers, but that is an amateur move. They will always add a surcharge, and could very easily set you up, and are already on the lookout for tourists. The girls are less likely to do that, and when I've gone through them, I end up paying the local price, as they most likely will want in on the fun.
If you happen to visit Cartagena, the white is sold in the girl's bathroom at LDV (lol!) for reference, the price there was 10k for what in the States would be considered a 40 bag (the quality, by american standards, is increadible. the stuff they sell in LDV has that shiny pink look to it). In Medellin, the same 10k got me roughly the same amount, maybe a bit more. Purchasing in bulk is tough (unless you are a hardcore user) because these guys can see a tourist coming. I was refused sale of any LESS than 10g from this one guy (claimed it waste his time), and that set me back 150k. Thats probably pricey but whatever. We had 5g leftover on the last day, so just said fuck it and gave it to the girls (they loved that)
If you are looking for the green it is slightly harder to find, shockingly. It is of bad quality and dirt cheap (basically free- the guy I got the 10g from gave me what must have been a half ounce- I asked him how much and he just waved me off. This is now my permanent guy in CTG)
Anywho, just to reiterate, find a girl you like and trust (somewhat) and obtain this stuff through her, you'll be safe. Do NOT however, under any circumstances, follow her to any pickup location. Make her go get it and pay her cab fare, or get her taxista buddy to do it (they all have these, guys that will run them errands at night, i.e. food/drinks to your hotel room if they are hungry)
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[QUOTE=Phunluv]The owners aren't stupid. They know what's going on what with the guys and the chicas hooking up outside and after the club shuts down. I can sort of understand their point of view, from a businessman's perspective. They've put I imagine at least 50-100 million pesos into the venue, but if people are hooking up outside, they're going to respond by keeping a closer eye on the girls and jacking up the prices of multas and drinks.
If they've created a venue for you to hook up with prepagas, they need a piece of the action. 10K pesos for a beer is not enough to keep them open for business! :)
So you end up in a vicious cycle and it sucks. I'm not sure if anything can be done about this.
When I visit these kinds of places I try to talk and introduce myself to the manager/owner/mamasan (I speak fluent Spanish) because I don't like the idea of being a complete stranger to the owner/manager, especially if I'm coming in alone.
I also usually try to talk to the doorman or one of the waiters/bartenders about prices and girls. I either session inside or do a take-out with the multa at least once. . . so I demonstrate to the owners and the guys that work there I'm not a complete flake or cheapskate.
Maybe that's stupid of me because it costs me more upfront. But I'd rather have them think of me as a good customer as opposed to a cheapo or an overpaying sucker. I figure that might help me in some way in the future. And in any case, this is still Colombia and I don't think it's a good idea to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off any of the locals, especially the ones that work in these kinds of venues.[/QUOTE]Thats how it works, we meet there and work deals.
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A gringo boycott
Got news for you all, there are many Colombians here that can and do pay 300, 000 to 500,000 a night for Paisas. If you can't afford it, stay home, its their country. There are many low end places to go, stay there.
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Trip number 5 for me
I will actually be posting about my trip, parts of it will be ibn the casa section and the rest will be here.
I passed thru BJ park and found this spinner to hang with after I hit the casas. Great attitudes are to be found all over, just have to look.
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I speak no Spanish but managed to negotiate a lower rate from them. Had been in a few times and mates had grabbed girls, plus went with the driver who knew everyone.
He picks up the girls when they close.
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San Diego
A bussniess report
I frequent the place alot, and it has pissed me off to see the prices rise soo much in so little time, but 1/2 of it is due to the dollars weakness and not the owners pure greed, however he does say that his bussniess his multas and girl room fees come majority from gringos probly like75% of his bussniess is from gringos, many colombians frequent the place but they just drink and take up a girls time, they buy bottles of rum or "firewater" and get shitfaced a few take the girls into the back room it does occur, and as towards gringos in the place, 2 years ago and maybe just maybe there would be a few gringos there 4 at the most maybe 5, over the past 2 months i have counted 10 plus gringos on many frequent occassions.
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Medellin report
Hi,
I was in Medellin more than 20 times in the last 3 years, I know all of the caasa in meddelin, this time I visit 3 times, Lutron, 3 girls in smal casa in the cenrto call new life are better than 80 procent of the girls in Lutron, in new life you pay 35000, for 30 minutes and 45000 for 60 minutes, and in Lutron, you pay 170000, for 60 minutes, it is realy stupid to pay this prices in Colombia, as 99 procent of the furigen man in medelin are americans, I don't belive any german or itaslian man will pay 170000 if he can, take 3 or 4 girls in 4 diffrent casas, belive me if the americns will stop to pay this prices and stop to go there, half of the girls will live this place and will go to work in other cassa in center or around meddelin, I visit 9 cassas in this week, and each place have 1 or 2 beutiful girls there, I take even girls from this places for al night for 60000 to 80000, don't drive the priice high, this san diego is shit 1 year olerady, nothing to complain just don't go there, meddelin nead a good night club like help in Rio, very bad night life in medelin, but the girls are the must butiful in the world, I live 20 years in Rio, and the meddelin girls are more beutiful even that the brasilian girls in the pace.
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[QUOTE=Malodr]Got news for you all, there are many Colombians here that can and do pay 300, 000 to 500,000 a night for Paisas. If you can't afford it, stay home, its their country. There are many low end places to go, stay there.[/QUOTE] That's what I've been trying to say here for awhile but no one believes me. I've been to some amazing fincas for the weekend with some affluent Colombians I know, these guys would never even think about looking for 40K COP chicas in centro or mayorista, that's the lowest of the low for them! :)
But I know we've got airfares and hotel fees to pay so it's a bit different for us visitors. I like a broad range of experiences, from low to high end. All I'm saying is it's nice to splurge on some quality Colombian poontang now and then.
[QUOTE=Malodr]Thats how it works, we meet there and work deals.[/QUOTE] Me too. What I'm saying is the first night I check a place out, I usually try to session inhouse or do the takeout fee. Of course, that's as long as the fees aren't crazy, the girl has the right attitude, was negotiable, etc. I'm trying to give the appearance of being a paying customer. Afterwards, I do what you and all the other guys do.
Probably in Medellin it doesn't matter as much, but in certain areas of Bogota, having the management think well of you can help prevent certain nasty and scary things from happening to you, although it's important NOT to give the impression that you're there to blow money left and right.
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Col Bog 1,
As always fabulous photos and movies. I was curious, I understand you prefer smaller lighter girls but did you chose this one again because she has great sex skills and attitude? I ask this because she is slightly heavier, she is still very nice, I am not implying anything disrespectfull towards her but just wondered. Also could I politely ask why the intercourse scenes in general are short but the oral scenes are long, just curious. I really like the long oral scenes. Please do not be offended by my questions in any way, I am a big fan of yours, I really enjoy all your work here and we are really lucky to have the imput of your time and efforts.
Best of luck,
Magic
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[QUOTE=Phunluv]That's what I've been trying to say here for awhile but no one believes me. I've been to some amazing fincas for the weekend with some affluent Colombians I know, these guys would never even think about looking for 40K COP chicas in centro or mayorista, that's the lowest of the low for them! :)
But I know we've got airfares and hotel fees to pay so it's a bit different for us visitors. I like a broad range of experiences, from low to high end. All I'm saying is it's nice to splurge on some quality Colombian poontang now and then.
Me too. What I'm saying is the first night I check a place out, I usually try to session inhouse or do the takeout fee. Of course, that's as long as the fees aren't crazy, the girl has the right attitude, was negotiable, etc. I'm trying to give the appearance of being a paying customer. Afterwards, I do what you and all the other guys do.
Probably in Medellin it doesn't matter as much, but in certain areas of Bogota, having the management think well of you can help prevent certain nasty and scary things from happening to you, although it's important NOT to give the impression that you're there to blow money left and right.[/QUOTE]I have 4 casa chicas coming over today. I met one in October, 2 in November and the 4th one on Tuesday. Day chicas get 40,000 to 50,000 and all night gets 100,000.
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What makes a 400.000 COP compared to the 50.000 COP
And I am sure these are just as good as the 400. 000 COP girls. What makes a 400. 000 COP compared to the 50. 000 COP; what we are willing to pay for it.
In the US we over pay (because we allowed the market to get this way) and we get lousy service.
Today, I was looking (in N. VA, USA) for a GFE and I find an OK who charges 280 for the hour, I asked about GFE and she said yes but she really does not do much on the kissing specially French; how is this GFE.
It was not like this three years ago when I came through N. VA last and it was never like this in NY. Back a short three years ago when you were with a honey many would ask if you would prefer her to go down without a condom; now you beg and she still will not do so. Even the illegals ho would be doing so much more for your attention in their country come to the US and dictate the market.
The girls are working for the present money and not the long term patron. They charge high because it is a one shot deal and then they are on to the next sucker.
Bottom line is we allow the lovelies to control the market without a little imput from us, they will take us or leave us for the sucker that is willing to pay any amount. Instead of a bar/pub/disco we will soon be seeing our action in auction house.
Be real even a fool like me does not want to be taken (my wife already got me but that was my stupid intense love for her) by Ms. Anyone.
I have to go to Colombia/Medellin for my children; PLEASE friends, hobbiest, mongers, please do not ruin my time there by inflating the market.
Thanks for permitting my two cents.
[QUOTE=Malodr]I have 4 casa chicas coming over today. I met one in October, 2 in November and the 4th one on Tuesday. Day chicas get 40,000 to 50,000 and all night gets 100,000.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]Last set of pictures from Paola.
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Bog you are one hellified dude with the NASTY pics.
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I retired and moved to Medellin almost 8 years ago. I have been reading this forum for a few months to get the occasional chuckle. But I finally got to jump in here and straighten things out since you guys have no idea what you are talking about.
Gringos do not set the price of pussy in Medellin except in places where gringos all hang out. Indeed, your influence in this area is so small outside of the mansion that it is laughable.
I bet no one on this forum has ever actually met the type of girl the rich Colombians are screwing. These girls would not be seen dead with a tourist gringo. They are getting probably the equivalent of $1000 USD a night from Colombian men.
Yes, that is not a mistake, I am talking 2 million pesos or more for TLN. You guys think you can compete with that?
There are top notch girls in Medellin that can get whatever they want. I am talking genuine models not wannabies. Many of the University students have Colombian Sugar Daddies that pay their entire tuition, books and other expenses. But I assure you that 99. 999% of the University students are not going to be seen in public with a gringo. These girls are very aware of their class position and realize that most of the gringos in Medellin are poor low class scum in the United States. These girls only date Colombians, or in the rare case rich gringos that live in Medellin.
I myself have lots of money and mingle with the upper class Colombians. I also speak perfect Spanish. Almost every wealthy Colombian I know has at least one mistress and they treat them like a princess, money, school, clothes, etc. Etc. Why would these girls want to be with some lowlife gringo who thinks he can give her $50?
One of my Colombian friends introduced me to his mistress. She is a girl that looks better than any of the Mango dancers. She attends the University of Medellin on his dime. Not only is she drop dead gorgeous but she is also smart and speaks English to some degree. She is a real "prepago" not some gringo puta. She will probably be with him until she graduates and gets a real job. She would never be described as a wh0re since she is with only this one guy until he dumps her.
She introduced me to two of her friends that I am now maintaining. The only way these girls agreed to meet a gringo was because of good references from the friend and the fact that I live here and have lots of money. I am seen as an investor here not as a tourist, and that was the big difference that allowed me to meet them.
Here is how things unfolded. The first girl was brought over to my house. I had to take her out for diner and talk to her so she would decide if she wanted to become my prepago. She had no sexual contact the first day. She then called me the next day and said that she would be my "girlfriend". She then came over and fucked my brains out. She never asked for one peso for the first couple of weeks. When it came time to pay her tuition the bill magically appeared in my office. We both understand that this is how it works but there is never any discussion of money. In her eyes she is not a wh0re but just a girl who needs a way to have an education.
The second girl got connected with me in the exact same way and our relationship is almost exactly identical. They know I am with more than one girl, and the occasional puta, but that is ok as long as it is not talked about.
So how much does it end up costing when I do the math? I would say about $2000 USD a month for each girl. I rotate the two girls every night so they are screwing me about 15 times a month. That works out to about $135 USD a night which is really cheap when I do the math like that.
In exchange for $4000 a month I get two girls that worship the ground I walk on. Normally one will come over in the evening about 6:00pm and we will have diner, talk about her school, and then fuck for a couple of hours. In the morning we will fuck again and then she will go off to school. Both of them are drop dead gorgeous teenagers. One is 18 and the other is 19. They could easily be Mango dancers but they would not lower themselves to that. They do not use condoms and have both been tested. They treat me exactly like they would their Colombian boyfriend. When they graduate they will go on to have normal jobs unlike many of the girls in Medellin who aspire to only be putas all their lives.
These girls are pure quality that can demand whatever price they want and get it. You are not going to find them hanging out in Mangos or within 10 miles of the mansion. You might see them in Parque Llerras but they are not going to talk to you. You know the girls you see in Llerras that are "stuck up", well the reason they are like that is they know most of the gringos are lowlifes and that a Colombian man will treat them like a princess.
All you guys who are with 50, 000 pesos girls have no idea what is out there. If you have money, real money, and you live here, then you really can have some of the most beautiful woman on the planet. These are what the Colombians call "prepagos" not the girls that mix with the outsiders.
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[QUOTE=Malodr]I have 4 casa chicas coming over today. I met one in October, 2 in November and the 4th one on Tuesday. Day chicas get 40,000 to 50,000 and all night gets 100,000.[/QUOTE]I have several amigas that I met in these casas. I call them when I'm in town, treat them like nicely, they stay with me for dinner and taxi money :)
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It makes sense to me. Have had my share of mistresses and 2k a month is cheap. Try doing that with a Penthouse girl. More like 5-10k a month and you are not screwing them 15 times a month.
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Agree
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I retired and moved to Medellin almost 8 years ago. I have been reading this forum for a few months to get the occasional chuckle. But I finally got to jump in here and straighten things out since you guys have no idea what you are talking about.
Gringos do not set the price of pussy in Medellin except in places where gringos all hang out. Indeed, your influence in this area is so small outside of the mansion that it is laughable.
I bet no one on this forum has ever actually met the type of girl the rich Colombians are screwing. These girls would not be seen dead with a tourist gringo. They are getting probably the equivalent of $1000 USD a night from Colombian men.
Yes, that is not a mistake, I am talking 2 million pesos or more for TLN. You guys think you can compete with that?
There are top notch girls in Medellin that can get whatever they want. I am talking genuine models not wannabies. Many of the University students have Colombian Sugar Daddies that pay their entire tuition, books and other expenses. But I assure you that 99. 999% of the University students are not going to be seen in public with a gringo. These girls are very aware of their class position and realize that most of the gringos in Medellin are poor low class scum in the United States. These girls only date Colombians, or in the rare case rich gringos that live in Medellin.
I myself have lots of money and mingle with the upper class Colombians. I also speak perfect Spanish. Almost every wealthy Colombian I know has at least one mistress and they treat them like a princess, money, school, clothes, etc. Etc. Why would these girls want to be with some lowlife gringo who thinks he can give her $50?
One of my Colombian friends introduced me to his mistress. She is a girl that looks better than any of the Mango dancers. She attends the University of Medellin on his dime. Not only is she drop dead gorgeous but she is also smart and speaks English to some degree. She is a real "prepago" not some gringo puta. She will probably be with him until she graduates and gets a real job. She would never be described as a wh0re since she is with only this one guy until he dumps her.
She introduced me to two of her friends that I am now maintaining. The only way these girls agreed to meet a gringo was because of good references from the friend and the fact that I live here and have lots of money. I am seen as an investor here not as a tourist, and that was the big difference that allowed me to meet them.
Here is how things unfolded. The first girl was brought over to my house. I had to take her out for diner and talk to her so she would decide if she wanted to become my prepago. She had no sexual contact the first day. She then called me the next day and said that she would be my "girlfriend". She then came over and fucked my brains out. She never asked for one peso for the first couple of weeks. When it came time to pay her tuition the bill magically appeared in my office. We both understand that this is how it works but there is never any discussion of money. In her eyes she is not a wh0re but just a girl who needs a way to have an education.
The second girl got connected with me in the exact same way and our relationship is almost exactly identical. They know I am with more than one girl, and the occasional puta, but that is ok as long as it is not talked about.
So how much does it end up costing when I do the math? I would say about $2000 USD a month for each girl. I rotate the two girls every night so they are screwing me about 15 times a month. That works out to about $135 USD a night which is really cheap when I do the math like that.
In exchange for $4000 a month I get two girls that worship the ground I walk on. Normally one will come over in the evening about 6:00pm and we will have diner, talk about her school, and then fuck for a couple of hours. In the morning we will fuck again and then she will go off to school. Both of them are drop dead gorgeous teenagers. One is 18 and the other is 19. They could easily be Mango dancers but they would not lower themselves to that. They do not use condoms and have both been tested. They treat me exactly like they would their Colombian boyfriend. When they graduate they will go on to have normal jobs unlike many of the girls in Medellin who aspire to only be putas all their lives.
These girls are pure quality that can demand whatever price they want and get it. You are not going to find them hanging out in Mangos or within 10 miles of the mansion. You might see them in Parque Llerras but they are not going to talk to you. You know the girls you see in Llerras that are "stuck up", well the reason they are like that is they know most of the gringos are lowlifes and that a Colombian man will treat them like a princess.
All you guys who are with 50,000 pesos girls have no idea what is out there. If you have money, real money, and you live here, then you really can have some of the most beautiful woman on the planet. These are what the Colombians call "prepagos" not the girls that mix with the outsiders.[/QUOTE]You just take my words out of my mouth.
Kukulkan
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[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I bet no one on this forum has ever actually met the type of girl the rich Colombians are screwing.[/QUOTE]I dunno about that. Colombia is absolutely chock fucking packed with beautiful women. I mean everyone has their scale. Once the girls hit Shakira/Vergara level (basically everytime I stepped into Oviedo mall) I really see no need to shoot higher.
Please don't mistake my tone here, I'm genuinely curious- being as you are local, speak spanish, and are rich to boot- why do you pay at all? Particularly as you are repeating with the same girls. Colombian chicks are incredibly clingy. You can keep them around with drinks & the occasional Studio F visit (damn that place! ) Having lived there 8 years, you must also be aware there are plenty of 10's around that don't require a monthly payment (and furthermore might be insulted at the prospect)?
4k a month, you could buy like 8 BMWs with that. To each his own I guess.
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Uncle Jack,
Every thing you say is true.
Aussie Greg.
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I retired and moved to Medellin almost 8 years ago. I have been reading this forum for a few months to get the occasional chuckle. But I finally got to jump in here and straighten things out since you guys have no idea what you are talking about.
Gringos do not set the price of pussy in Medellin except in places where gringos all hang out. Indeed, your influence in this area is so small outside of the mansion that it is laughable.
I bet no one on this forum has ever actually met the type of girl the rich Colombians are screwing. These girls would not be seen dead with a tourist gringo. They are getting probably the equivalent of $1000 USD a night from Colombian men.
Yes, that is not a mistake, I am talking 2 million pesos or more for TLN. You guys think you can compete with that?
There are top notch girls in Medellin that can get whatever they want. I am talking genuine models not wannabies. Many of the University students have Colombian Sugar Daddies that pay their entire tuition, books and other expenses. But I assure you that 99. 999% of the University students are not going to be seen in public with a gringo. These girls are very aware of their class position and realize that most of the gringos in Medellin are poor low class scum in the United States. These girls only date Colombians, or in the rare case rich gringos that live in Medellin.
I myself have lots of money and mingle with the upper class Colombians. I also speak perfect Spanish. Almost every wealthy Colombian I know has at least one mistress and they treat them like a princess, money, school, clothes, etc. Etc. Why would these girls want to be with some lowlife gringo who thinks he can give her $50?
One of my Colombian friends introduced me to his mistress. She is a girl that looks better than any of the Mango dancers. She attends the University of Medellin on his dime. Not only is she drop dead gorgeous but she is also smart and speaks English to some degree. She is a real "prepago" not some gringo puta. She will probably be with him until she graduates and gets a real job. She would never be described as a wh0re since she is with only this one guy until he dumps her.
She introduced me to two of her friends that I am now maintaining. The only way these girls agreed to meet a gringo was because of good references from the friend and the fact that I live here and have lots of money. I am seen as an investor here not as a tourist, and that was the big difference that allowed me to meet them.
Here is how things unfolded. The first girl was brought over to my house. I had to take her out for diner and talk to her so she would decide if she wanted to become my prepago. She had no sexual contact the first day. She then called me the next day and said that she would be my "girlfriend". She then came over and fucked my brains out. She never asked for one peso for the first couple of weeks. When it came time to pay her tuition the bill magically appeared in my office. We both understand that this is how it works but there is never any discussion of money. In her eyes she is not a wh0re but just a girl who needs a way to have an education.
The second girl got connected with me in the exact same way and our relationship is almost exactly identical. They know I am with more than one girl, and the occasional puta, but that is ok as long as it is not talked about.
So how much does it end up costing when I do the math? I would say about $2000 USD a month for each girl. I rotate the two girls every night so they are screwing me about 15 times a month. That works out to about $135 USD a night which is really cheap when I do the math like that.
In exchange for $4000 a month I get two girls that worship the ground I walk on. Normally one will come over in the evening about 6:00pm and we will have diner, talk about her school, and then fuck for a couple of hours. In the morning we will fuck again and then she will go off to school. Both of them are drop dead gorgeous teenagers. One is 18 and the other is 19. They could easily be Mango dancers but they would not lower themselves to that. They do not use condoms and have both been tested. They treat me exactly like they would their Colombian boyfriend. When they graduate they will go on to have normal jobs unlike many of the girls in Medellin who aspire to only be putas all their lives.
These girls are pure quality that can demand whatever price they want and get it. You are not going to find them hanging out in Mangos or within 10 miles of the mansion. You might see them in Parque Llerras but they are not going to talk to you. You know the girls you see in Llerras that are "stuck up", well the reason they are like that is they know most of the gringos are lowlifes and that a Colombian man will treat them like a princess.
All you guys who are with 50, 000 pesos girls have no idea what is out there. If you have money, real money, and you live here, then you really can have some of the most beautiful woman on the planet. These are what the Colombians call "prepagos" not the girls that mix with the outsiders.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ricker]I have several amigas that I met in these casas. I call them when I'm in town, treat them like nicely, they stay with me for dinner and taxi money :)[/QUOTE]You mean I don´t have to pay 40,000 all the time. That would be nice.
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Uncle Jack
Welcome. I agree with everything save 2 points. It is spelled Lleras. And prepago is a term that is used to describe the girls you maintain but it is also used more loosely to describe a girl who fucks for money.
Generally prepagos and putas are different. Here in Medellín they use the term grilla more than prepago. The grilla fucks for tuition money (I have one like that myself), nicer clothes, good food and drink, travel, and toys. The puta fucks to feed herself and her kids.
By the way, no amount of truth or reason is going to convince the price police that they cannot band together and keep the price of pussy low. They have been making these kinds of ridiculous statement for years and will continue to do so. And they will continue to talk about the good old days and about how Gringos have ruined [insert city].
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[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I bet no one on this forum has ever actually met the type of girl the rich Colombians are screwing. These girls would not be seen dead with a tourist gringo. They are getting probably the equivalent of $1000 USD a night from Colombian men.[/QUOTE]I have met a couple and the rich guys actually like to upgrade and switch around and these Paisas know the good times don't last forever. The $1,000 a night chica is not that much better than the 150,000 peso chica.
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[QUOTE=Ricker]I have several amigas that I met in these casas. I call them when I'm in town, treat them like nicely, they stay with me for dinner and taxi money :)[/QUOTE]Probably because you speak spanish well and are a pretty charming guy to be around.
El Grandoto
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[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I retired and moved to Medellin almost 8 years ago. I have been reading this forum for a few months to get the occasional chuckle. But I finally got to jump in here and straighten things out since you guys have no idea what you are talking about.
Gringos do not set the price of pussy in Medellin except in places where gringos all hang out. Indeed, your influence in this area is so small outside of the mansion that it is laughable.
I bet no one on this forum has ever actually met the type of girl the rich Colombians are screwing. These girls would not be seen dead with a tourist gringo. They are getting probably the equivalent of $1000 USD a night from Colombian men.
Yes, that is not a mistake, I am talking 2 million pesos or more for TLN. You guys think you can compete with that?
There are top notch girls in Medellin that can get whatever they want. I am talking genuine models not wannabies. Many of the University students have Colombian Sugar Daddies that pay their entire tuition, books and other expenses. But I assure you that 99. 999% of the University students are not going to be seen in public with a gringo. These girls are very aware of their class position and realize that most of the gringos in Medellin are poor low class scum in the United States. These girls only date Colombians, or in the rare case rich gringos that live in Medellin.
I myself have lots of money and mingle with the upper class Colombians. I also speak perfect Spanish. Almost every wealthy Colombian I know has at least one mistress and they treat them like a princess, money, school, clothes, etc. Etc. Why would these girls want to be with some lowlife gringo who thinks he can give her $50?
One of my Colombian friends introduced me to his mistress. She is a girl that looks better than any of the Mango dancers. She attends the University of Medellin on his dime. Not only is she drop dead gorgeous but she is also smart and speaks English to some degree. She is a real "prepago" not some gringo puta. She will probably be with him until she graduates and gets a real job. She would never be described as a wh0re since she is with only this one guy until he dumps her.
She introduced me to two of her friends that I am now maintaining. The only way these girls agreed to meet a gringo was because of good references from the friend and the fact that I live here and have lots of money. I am seen as an investor here not as a tourist, and that was the big difference that allowed me to meet them.
Here is how things unfolded. The first girl was brought over to my house. I had to take her out for diner and talk to her so she would decide if she wanted to become my prepago. She had no sexual contact the first day. She then called me the next day and said that she would be my "girlfriend". She then came over and fucked my brains out. She never asked for one peso for the first couple of weeks. When it came time to pay her tuition the bill magically appeared in my office. We both understand that this is how it works but there is never any discussion of money. In her eyes she is not a wh0re but just a girl who needs a way to have an education.
The second girl got connected with me in the exact same way and our relationship is almost exactly identical. They know I am with more than one girl, and the occasional puta, but that is ok as long as it is not talked about.
So how much does it end up costing when I do the math? I would say about $2000 USD a month for each girl. I rotate the two girls every night so they are screwing me about 15 times a month. That works out to about $135 USD a night which is really cheap when I do the math like that.
In exchange for $4000 a month I get two girls that worship the ground I walk on. Normally one will come over in the evening about 6:00pm and we will have diner, talk about her school, and then fuck for a couple of hours. In the morning we will fuck again and then she will go off to school. Both of them are drop dead gorgeous teenagers. One is 18 and the other is 19. They could easily be Mango dancers but they would not lower themselves to that. They do not use condoms and have both been tested. They treat me exactly like they would their Colombian boyfriend. When they graduate they will go on to have normal jobs unlike many of the girls in Medellin who aspire to only be putas all their lives.
These girls are pure quality that can demand whatever price they want and get it. You are not going to find them hanging out in Mangos or within 10 miles of the mansion. You might see them in Parque Llerras but they are not going to talk to you. You know the girls you see in Llerras that are "stuck up", well the reason they are like that is they know most of the gringos are lowlifes and that a Colombian man will treat them like a princess.
All you guys who are with 50, 000 pesos girls have no idea what is out there. If you have money, real money, and you live here, then you really can have some of the most beautiful woman on the planet. These are what the Colombians call "prepagos" not the girls that mix with the outsiders.[/QUOTE]This has to be one of the best post that I have ever read on this site. I agree 100% with this guy. I am glad that someone has finally showed everyone how the real world works.
PS. Cash is King
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Reality Check
Ok its time for a reality check.
Uncal sam or jack spends about 48 thousand dollars a year on his girls, and good for him god bless him, thats great but lets come on back down to earth and deal with us little people. As I do agree with everything uncal jack has said, I try and focus on what matters. There are guys who spend 4K an hour! But they don't matter
Lets hit some facts
Fact number 1: All women are not created equal. Some are hotter then others, some have stretch marks, are fat ect.
Fact number 2: You can nail and buy totaly hot women just as hot as what guys pay 4K an hour for here in Medellin for 100K COP plus, thats reality
Fact number 3: In order to find these hot women you have to hunt, look and track them down must speak spanish and must throw away the high class concept most colombian males have
Fact number 4: High class and social status is very important to colombians, rich colombian males will not marry "barrio trash" even if she is hot, they will look for college girls middle class family girls ect. This is why so many hotties have to work as hookers. This go along the same concept with "prepagos"
I think this whole general conversation started with the theme about what girls cost in Medellin, and when I persoanlly talk about that I talk on a normal level and don't included the type of women "uncal jack" pays for becuase it doesnt matter, there are high class hookers all over the world, and men who pay huge amounts of money. But bottom line is at the set establishments their are set prices, don't over pay because prices will climb.
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Uncle Jack,
Let's see if I got everything:
You're rich.
You have lived in Medellin for 8 years.
You speak Spanish.
You paying a ridiculous amount of money to fuck 2 college girls on a rotating basis.
When they graduate YOU will replace them.
Is that about it?
These are probably girls most of us here don't know, will never know, wouldn't want to support if we had the chance and will never fuck.
So what's your point?
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[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]
... I myself have lots of money and mingle with the upper class Colombians ...
... In exchange for $4000 a month I get two girls that worship the ground I walk on.
... All you guys who are with 50, 000 pesos girls have no idea what is out there. If you have money, real money, and you live here, then you really can have some of the most beautiful woman on the planet. These are what the Colombians call "prepagos" not the girls that mix with the outsiders.[/QUOTE]Well, being a normal low life scum, and not really want to support a chica at $4000 a month, guess I'll have to stick with the 50,000 peso chicas :)
Besides the plastic surgery and the fancy clothes, I'm sure the loving is just the same ... may even be better with the simpler girl.
Believe it or not, they actually develop feelings too and can be just as hot and sweet if they dig ya. Seen it many times.
I wish all you high rollers well, I'm happy were I'm at thank you!
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Someone asked why I do not change the girls every day since there are so many. Well than answer is simple:.I am an old ooooooold man with a lot more money than time. I just do not have the energy or mobility to go out with a dozen girls. Once in a while I will see something so stunning that I have to try her. I have a very rich Colombian friend who occasionally brings me over some top model types of girls. These are the girls who get the 2 million pesos a night from the upper class Colombians.
I am a very realistic person. I know I am an old and decrepit. I had my days of youth but they are long gone. These girls are sharing their beauty and youth with someone who is not their equal in appearance and for that they deserve every pesos they can get.
Some of the lowlife American scum I see showing up in Medellin lately really need to open their eyes. You should not be trying to cheat these girls out of every pesos you can. Instead you should show them generosity and kindness. These girls do not have the same opportunities that we had being born in a first world country.
I was at the park last week with a couple of male Colombian friends. On the table right beside us showed up a group of clowns from the United States. These clowns were talking a load of shit about all their "monger" experiences. They were saying stupid shit about how they found a girl and only paid her 50, 000 pesos. If I was younger I would have cracked a couple of them in the head for being so disrespectful. You clowns are also lucky that the Colombians I was with could not understand what you were saying. You clowns were indeed very lucky for this.
Most of these girls have treated me with nothing but kindness. I was a very powerful person at one time but people in the United States treat me now like I am an idiot. Even my stupid children wanted to put me away in a home. When I moved to Colombia it was to say a big FUCK YOU to everyone in the United States. People in Colombia are respectful to older people and remember you for what you were.
Now I am seeing American scum showing up here in Medellin. Don’t think people are not noticing you fools. I am going to tell you all one lesson in life that you really should pay attention to. You better learn to treat people with respect or something really bad is going to happen to you.
I am setting up a trust fund to help the girls here in Medellin. The girls that I have been with will all be taken care of for the rest of their lives. My children, grandchildren and great grandchildren are a bunch of spoiled brats who deserve nothing. My last days on this earth have been filled with happiness by a group of prostitutes and a couple prepagos. It is quit remarkable that things unfolded how they have, but they have, and that is how it is.
In the last 8 years I have lived in Medellin I have kept a record of every girl I have been with. If they have children I remember to send them a present on their birthday and something at Christmas. If the girl needs something important she knows she can call up Uncle Jack to get some money. Very few girls have ever tried to take advantage of my generosity. Very few.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]Someone asked why I do not change the girls every day since there are so many. Well than answer is simple:.I am an old ooooooold man with a lot more money than time. I just do not have the energy or mobility to go out with a dozen girls. Once in a while I will see something so stunning that I have to try her. I have a very rich Colombian friend who occasionally brings me over some top model types of girls. These are the girls who get the 2 million pesos a night from the upper class Colombians.
I am a very realistic person. I know I am an old and decrepit. I had my days of youth but they are long gone. These girls are sharing their beauty and youth with someone who is not their equal in appearance and for that they deserve every pesos they can get.
Some of the lowlife American scum I see showing up in Medellin lately really need to open their eyes. You should not be trying to cheat these girls out of every pesos you can. Instead you should show them generosity and kindness. These girls do not have the same opportunities that we had being born in a first world country.
I was at the park last week with a couple of male Colombian friends. On the table right beside us showed up a group of clowns from the United States. These clowns were talking a load of shit about all their "monger" experiences. They were saying stupid shit about how they found a girl and only paid her 50, 000 pesos. If I was younger I would have cracked a couple of them in the head for being so disrespectful. You clowns are also lucky that the Colombians I was with could not understand what you were saying. You clowns were indeed very lucky for this.
Most of these girls have treated me with nothing but kindness. I was a very powerful person at one time but people in the United States treat me now like I am an idiot. Even my stupid children wanted to put me away in a home. When I moved to Colombia it was to say a big FUCK YOU to everyone in the United States. People in Colombia are respectful to older people and remember you for what you were.
Now I am seeing American scum showing up here in Medellin. Don’t think people are not noticing you fools. I am going to tell you all one lesson in life that you really should pay attention to. You better learn to treat people with respect or something really bad is going to happen to you.
I am setting up a trust fund to help the girls here in Medellin. The girls that I have been with will all be taken care of for the rest of their lives. My children, grandchildren and great grandchildren are a bunch of spoiled brats who deserve nothing. My last days on this earth have been filled with happiness by a group of prostitutes and a couple prepagos. It is quit remarkable that things unfolded how they have, but they have, and that is how it is.
In the last 8 years I have lived in Medellin I have kept a record of every girl I have been with. If they have children I remember to send them a present on their birthday and something at Christmas. If the girl needs something important she knows she can call up Uncle Jack to get some money. Very few girls have ever tried to take advantage of my generosity. Very few.
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And some of these disrespectful, self-absorbed and narcissistic Americans deserve to get their asses kicked, both financially and physically.
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[blue]Greetings Everyone,
Before this gets out of hand, I want everyone to know that I'm not going to let the Price Police gang up on Uncle Jack, so if you don't have something positive to say, then don't post.
For the record, I employ exactly the same strategy here in Buenos Aires as Uncle Jack does in Medellin. It suits me, it's my money, and I'm not going to apologize to anyone for it.
This forum supports all economic levels of sport fucking, and people are free to decide for themselves which level they prefer, just as people decide what class of restaurant that they'd like to patronize.
The funny thing is that the Price Police only apply this principal to buying pussy. For example, imagine how ridiculous someone would look by beating on a restaurant window and screaming at the patrons that they could be eating for less at McDonalds. Of course, in continuation of this example, there'd be other guys beating on the window at McDonalds screaming at the patrons that they could be eating for less out of a garbage can, but that only reinforces my point.
I'd also like to refute the argument that what one guy pays influences the entire price structure for everyone. The fact is that I've never been charged more at McDonalds because the previous day I ate at an expensive steak place, nor have I ever known a fast food restaurant to raise it's prices because of what people were paying to eat at an expensive restaurant down the block.
Thanks,
Jackson
[i]"If you can't run with the big dogs, then you'd better hide under the porch."[/i][/blue]
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I would just like to say that Uncle Jack is not me in a alias, even though I believe every thing he say´s and havnt got the guts to write it.
Aussie Greg
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]Someone asked why I do not change the girls every day since there are so many. Well than answer is simple:.I am an old ooooooold man with a lot more money than time. I just do not have the energy or mobility to go out with a dozen girls. Once in a while I will see something so stunning that I have to try her. I have a very rich Colombian friend who occasionally brings me over some top model types of girls. These are the girls who get the 2 million pesos a night from the upper class Colombians.
I am a very realistic person. I know I am an old and decrepit. I had my days of youth but they are long gone. These girls are sharing their beauty and youth with someone who is not their equal in appearance and for that they deserve every pesos they can get.
Some of the lowlife American scum I see showing up in Medellin lately really need to open their eyes. You should not be trying to cheat these girls out of every pesos you can. Instead you should show them generosity and kindness. These girls do not have the same opportunities that we had being born in a first world country.
I was at the park last week with a couple of male Colombian friends. On the table right beside us showed up a group of clowns from the United States. These clowns were talking a load of shit about all their "monger" experiences. They were saying stupid shit about how they found a girl and only paid her 50, 000 pesos. If I was younger I would have cracked a couple of them in the head for being so disrespectful. You clowns are also lucky that the Colombians I was with could not understand what you were saying. You clowns were indeed very lucky for this.
Most of these girls have treated me with nothing but kindness. I was a very powerful person at one time but people in the United States treat me now like I am an idiot. Even my stupid children wanted to put me away in a home. When I moved to Colombia it was to say a big FUCK YOU to everyone in the United States. People in Colombia are respectful to older people and remember you for what you were.
Now I am seeing American scum showing up here in Medellin. Don’t think people are not noticing you fools. I am going to tell you all one lesson in life that you really should pay attention to. You better learn to treat people with respect or something really bad is going to happen to you.
I am setting up a trust fund to help the girls here in Medellin. The girls that I have been with will all be taken care of for the rest of their lives. My children, grandchildren and great grandchildren are a bunch of spoiled brats who deserve nothing. My last days on this earth have been filled with happiness by a group of prostitutes and a couple prepagos. It is quit remarkable that things unfolded how they have, but they have, and that is how it is.
In the last 8 years I have lived in Medellin I have kept a record of every girl I have been with. If they have children I remember to send them a present on their birthday and something at Christmas. If the girl needs something important she knows she can call up Uncle Jack to get some money. Very few girls have ever tried to take advantage of my generosity. Very few.
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Situations
I've been following the reports since I am due to arrive in Medellin mid June. So far I've gotten a pretty good handle of things thanks to a few generous members.
However uncle jack's post hit a few nerves and I feel inclined to make a remark.
Tio jack - I can understand how south american culture can be appealing to you. I agree america is not too welcoming of a place for older people.
When I visit SA I find it very refreshing to see everybody have fair game at finding companionship. The difference lies in what type of a "situation" you are looking for. IMHO I admire the guy who gets a good lay at under $50 US then doesn't need the "companionship" services of a pro afterwards.
I've known many men who have had a mistress and to me its really the women who have the mister. It's like trying to pretend there is no pink elephant in the room. In the long run the reasons for the realationship becomes more obvious. It would ruin the sexual aspect of it for me. I wouldn't want a high priced mistress leeching on to me even if she was pleasant. I pay for sex period. The rest is on her time.
If that was my situation I would go for the attractive middle aged women with a wide ass and a caring nature. If she let you get a little take-out on the side even better but I wouldn't want a hooker knowing my business or private life. These girls are super slick and you only make yourself look foolish by thinking you are the only one doing the hustling.
I think it's great that you treat these girls with respect but I wouldn't forget your own family or why you are in Colombia in the first place. Also a reminder as to why it works for you in Medellin ($) wouldn't hurt either.
Things may not always be how they seem. Heard that one before?
Also if it was available to you then why shouldn't it be to everyone. Including those who are not able to afford a high price mistress.
In my old age I think I would want more caring friends on a personal level than a high class mistress.
Again I look forward to posting my experiences. I'd like to stay in Colombia for a month so you will hear from me.
Thanks,
Artisttyp
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A puta is a puta!
Some on these low life putas as you discribe them might not make the money your putas make but as Churchill discribed "we already established what you are we are just haggling over the price.
I married one of those "putas" (from Niquia) you tried to discribe and to me she is the best looking girl (with or without makeup) that I have ever seen in my life. When I see her I know she will out do anyone you might bring across the bed. She walks like a model (possibly the classes she had as a child) clean and intellegent. Did she grow up on the wrong side of the tracks; yes. If she got the chance to sell herself for her education possibly I would not know her and you would be the one doing her.
Your girls are no less putas then any of the other girls they are just smart enough to ride you for more money. Some women just do not want to be kept. Some just close the deal and are out and that is what they like. Other just want to be free to string up and along as many as they can.
Your girls worship the ground you walk on but that is along as you are paying the bill she sends to you office. Stop paying and she will drop you worse then if you were a homeless bum.
If your discressionary income is good enough to hold the two more power to you; I would perfer to find the diamond in the rough and just discover the brilliance she holds.
Thank you
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I retired and moved to Medellin almost 8 years ago. I have been reading this forum for a few months to get the occasional chuckle. But I finally got to jump in here and straighten things out since you guys have no idea what you are talking about.
Gringos do not set the price of pussy in Medellin except in places where gringos all hang out. Indeed, your influence in this area is so small outside of the mansion that it is laughable.
I bet no one on this forum has ever actually met the type of girl the rich Colombians are screwing. These girls would not be seen dead with a tourist gringo. They are getting probably the equivalent of $1000 USD a night from Colombian men.
Yes, that is not a mistake, I am talking 2 million pesos or more for TLN. You guys think you can compete with that?
There are top notch girls in Medellin that can get whatever they want. I am talking genuine models not wannabies. Many of the University students have Colombian Sugar Daddies that pay their entire tuition, books and other expenses. But I assure you that 99. 999% of the University students are not going to be seen in public with a gringo. These girls are very aware of their class position and realize that most of the gringos in Medellin are poor low class scum in the United States. These girls only date Colombians, or in the rare case rich gringos that live in Medellin.
I myself have lots of money and mingle with the upper class Colombians. I also speak perfect Spanish. Almost every wealthy Colombian I know has at least one mistress and they treat them like a princess, money, school, clothes, etc. Etc. Why would these girls want to be with some lowlife gringo who thinks he can give her $50?
One of my Colombian friends introduced me to his mistress. She is a girl that looks better than any of the Mango dancers. She attends the University of Medellin on his dime. Not only is she drop dead gorgeous but she is also smart and speaks English to some degree. She is a real "prepago" not some gringo puta. She will probably be with him until she graduates and gets a real job. She would never be described as a wh0re since she is with only this one guy until he dumps her.
She introduced me to two of her friends that I am now maintaining. The only way these girls agreed to meet a gringo was because of good references from the friend and the fact that I live here and have lots of money. I am seen as an investor here not as a tourist, and that was the big difference that allowed me to meet them.
Here is how things unfolded. The first girl was brought over to my house. I had to take her out for diner and talk to her so she would decide if she wanted to become my prepago. She had no sexual contact the first day. She then called me the next day and said that she would be my "girlfriend". She then came over and fucked my brains out. She never asked for one peso for the first couple of weeks. When it came time to pay her tuition the bill magically appeared in my office. We both understand that this is how it works but there is never any discussion of money. In her eyes she is not a wh0re but just a girl who needs a way to have an education.
The second girl got connected with me in the exact same way and our relationship is almost exactly identical. They know I am with more than one girl, and the occasional puta, but that is ok as long as it is not talked about.
So how much does it end up costing when I do the math? I would say about $2000 USD a month for each girl. I rotate the two girls every night so they are screwing me about 15 times a month. That works out to about $135 USD a night which is really cheap when I do the math like that.
In exchange for $4000 a month I get two girls that worship the ground I walk on. Normally one will come over in the evening about 6:00pm and we will have diner, talk about her school, and then fuck for a couple of hours. In the morning we will fuck again and then she will go off to school. Both of them are drop dead gorgeous teenagers. One is 18 and the other is 19. They could easily be Mango dancers but they would not lower themselves to that. They do not use condoms and have both been tested. They treat me exactly like they would their Colombian boyfriend. When they graduate they will go on to have normal jobs unlike many of the girls in Medellin who aspire to only be putas all their lives.
These girls are pure quality that can demand whatever price they want and get it. You are not going to find them hanging out in Mangos or within 10 miles of the mansion. You might see them in Parque Llerras but they are not going to talk to you. You know the girls you see in Llerras that are "stuck up", well the reason they are like that is they know most of the gringos are lowlifes and that a Colombian man will treat them like a princess.
All you guys who are with 50, 000 pesos girls have no idea what is out there. If you have money, real money, and you live here, then you really can have some of the most beautiful woman on the planet. These are what the Colombians call "prepagos" not the girls that mix with the outsiders. [/QUOTE]
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What I am talking about here is RESPECT not how much you guys are actually paying. If you people make an agreement to pay 50,000 pesos then that is a perfectly legitimate deal but there is no reason to act in such a disrespectful manner.
Let me explain using the example of the clowns I overheard at the restaurant. They were all talking shit about how they found girls the night before for 50,000 pesos and talked them down to 40,000. They were laughing about this and generally acting like complete idiots.
Well, these girls who are working for 50,000 pesos have had a hard life. They are there on the street because they cannot be anywhere else. And I assure you that they would rather be ANYWHERE else. I then see a group of much older men from the United States bragging how they talked down a poor girl by about $5.00.
I really got to wonder about these people. It just blows my mind that people like these clowns actually exist. You were born in the richest most powerful nation on earth yet are so low that you take pride in talking an impoverished girl down $5. 00.
Did you ever think that maybe she needs the money for something important? Even if it is not important I assure you she needs the money more than you do. I wondered if these Americans were all working for minimal wage so $5. 00 was a lot of money for them or if they all just had some sort of psychological disorder. When you see a girl on the street like that you should offer her more than what she asks simply because you can.
About 5 years ago I met a girl here who was working as a prostitute because her mother was very I'll. She could not afford to be in a private clinic and felt her mother would die without being in one. I sent someone directly to this clinic to see if she was telling the truth and it was true. I then went to the clinic and met her mother personally. The girl had quit school to work as a prostitute so she could help her mother.
I told the girl if she went back to school I would pay all that her mother needed. The clinic billed me each month until her mother eventually died. I ended up spending over 20 thousand dollars but I felt it was worth it. That girl has now completed college and has a future. I still see her once in a while and love her like she was my child.
My own great grandchildren are a bunch of self centered spoiled brats. I warned each one of them several years ago that they would be disinherited if they did not immediately change their lifestyles. They didn’t. Indeed, I just heard one spent about $20, 000 on her own birthday party. I sent her a birthday card the next day with a photo of a big zero on it so she knows her share of the inheritance. They think they will be able to still get my money after my death but they are in for a big shocker since every last penny is going to a charitable trust here in Medellin. The money has already been transferred outside of the United States and they are not going to be able to touch a dime.
My whole point here is most of you guys have a lot more than any of these girls will ever have and you should not take pride in being as cheap as you possibly can. These girls need to be shown kindness and respect. They are not standing on that street because they want to be. They are human beings who have been dealt a bad hand in life while most of you were born into the land of opportunity but it seems apparent that you never utilized those opportunities.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]Someone asked why I do not change the girls every day since there are so many. Well than answer is simple:.I am an old ooooooold man with a lot more money than time. I just do not have the energy or mobility to go out with a dozen girls. Once in a while I will see something so stunning that I have to try her. I have a very rich Colombian friend who occasionally brings me over some top model types of girls. These are the girls who get the 2 million pesos a night from the upper class Colombians.
I am a very realistic person. I know I am an old and decrepit. I had my days of youth but they are long gone. These girls are sharing their beauty and youth with someone who is not their equal in appearance and for that they deserve every pesos they can get.
Some of the lowlife American scum I see showing up in Medellin lately really need to open their eyes. You should not be trying to cheat these girls out of every pesos you can. Instead you should show them generosity and kindness. These girls do not have the same opportunities that we had being born in a first world country.
I was at the park last week with a couple of male Colombian friends. On the table right beside us showed up a group of clowns from the United States. These clowns were talking a load of shit about all their "monger" experiences. They were saying stupid shit about how they found a girl and only paid her 50, 000 pesos. If I was younger I would have cracked a couple of them in the head for being so disrespectful. You clowns are also lucky that the Colombians I was with could not understand what you were saying. You clowns were indeed very lucky for this.
Most of these girls have treated me with nothing but kindness. I was a very powerful person at one time but people in the United States treat me now like I am an idiot. Even my stupid children wanted to put me away in a home. When I moved to Colombia it was to say a big FUCK YOU to everyone in the United States. People in Colombia are respectful to older people and remember you for what you were.
Now I am seeing American scum showing up here in Medellin. Don’t think people are not noticing you fools. I am going to tell you all one lesson in life that you really should pay attention to. You better learn to treat people with respect or something really bad is going to happen to you.
I am setting up a trust fund to help the girls here in Medellin. The girls that I have been with will all be taken care of for the rest of their lives. My children, grandchildren and great grandchildren are a bunch of spoiled brats who deserve nothing. My last days on this earth have been filled with happiness by a group of prostitutes and a couple prepagos. It is quit remarkable that things unfolded how they have, but they have, and that is how it is.
In the last 8 years I have lived in Medellin I have kept a record of every girl I have been with. If they have children I remember to send them a present on their birthday and something at Christmas. If the girl needs something important she knows she can call up Uncle Jack to get some money. Very few girls have ever tried to take advantage of my generosity. Very few.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]I am glad you are enjoying your golden years. More power to you. Do not let these cheap idiots disrupt what makes you happy. I like to treat people as I want to be treated so even the hookers are treated as humans. Dont put all us gringos in one bucket. I sure would like to see a photo or two of what I am missing.
Thanks for all you input.
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What about Us?
What Uncle Jack is basically saying is that he wants us to leave the chicas to the rich like him because we can't or choose not to pay what he can.
Let someone with Bill Gates' money go down and tell Uncle Jack that he's a piker for not giving the girls what Bill can, and I'll bet he would make the same arguments as we do against what he is saying.
Some of the guys on this board don't even make $45k net and even if they wanted to pay what Uncle Jack suggests is appropriate, they wouldn't have the money to eat or even get home.
I am not attacking the man, only his elitist attitude and his attack on we papis pobres.
Not everyone can abandon his family, move to Colombia, and spend his life savings on Colombianas.
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Scum?
"These girls are very aware of their class position and realize that most of the gringos in Medellin are poor low class scum in the United States".
That's very hurtful!
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[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I retired and moved to Medellin almost 8 years ago. I have been reading this forum for a few months to get the occasional chuckle. But I finally got to jump in here and straighten things out since you guys have no idea what you are talking about.
Gringos do not set the price of pussy in Medellin except in places where gringos all hang out. Indeed, your influence in this area is so small outside of the mansion that it is laughable.
I bet no one on this forum has ever actually met the type of girl the rich Colombians are screwing. These girls would not be seen dead with a tourist gringo. They are getting probably the equivalent of $1000 USD a night from Colombian men.
Yes, that is not a mistake, I am talking 2 million pesos or more for TLN. You guys think you can compete with that?
There are top notch girls in Medellin that can get whatever they want. I am talking genuine models not wannabies. Many of the University students have Colombian Sugar Daddies that pay their entire tuition, books and other expenses. But I assure you that 99. 999% of the University students are not going to be seen in public with a gringo. These girls are very aware of their class position and realize that most of the gringos in Medellin are poor low class scum in the United States. These girls only date Colombians, or in the rare case rich gringos that live in Medellin.
I myself have lots of money and mingle with the upper class Colombians. I also speak perfect Spanish. Almost every wealthy Colombian I know has at least one mistress and they treat them like a princess, money, school, clothes, etc. Etc. Why would these girls want to be with some lowlife gringo who thinks he can give her $50?
One of my Colombian friends introduced me to his mistress. She is a girl that looks better than any of the Mango dancers. She attends the University of Medellin on his dime. Not only is she drop dead gorgeous but she is also smart and speaks English to some degree. She is a real "prepago" not some gringo puta. She will probably be with him until she graduates and gets a real job. She would never be described as a wh0re since she is with only this one guy until he dumps her.
She introduced me to two of her friends that I am now maintaining. The only way these girls agreed to meet a gringo was because of good references from the friend and the fact that I live here and have lots of money. I am seen as an investor here not as a tourist, and that was the big difference that allowed me to meet them.
Here is how things unfolded. The first girl was brought over to my house. I had to take her out for diner and talk to her so she would decide if she wanted to become my prepago. She had no sexual contact the first day. She then called me the next day and said that she would be my "girlfriend". She then came over and fucked my brains out. She never asked for one peso for the first couple of weeks. When it came time to pay her tuition the bill magically appeared in my office. We both understand that this is how it works but there is never any discussion of money. In her eyes she is not a wh0re but just a girl who needs a way to have an education.
The second girl got connected with me in the exact same way and our relationship is almost exactly identical. They know I am with more than one girl, and the occasional puta, but that is ok as long as it is not talked about.
So how much does it end up costing when I do the math? I would say about $2000 USD a month for each girl. I rotate the two girls every night so they are screwing me about 15 times a month. That works out to about $135 USD a night which is really cheap when I do the math like that.
In exchange for $4000 a month I get two girls that worship the ground I walk on. Normally one will come over in the evening about 6:00pm and we will have diner, talk about her school, and then fuck for a couple of hours. In the morning we will fuck again and then she will go off to school. Both of them are drop dead gorgeous teenagers. One is 18 and the other is 19. They could easily be Mango dancers but they would not lower themselves to that. They do not use condoms and have both been tested. They treat me exactly like they would their Colombian boyfriend. When they graduate they will go on to have normal jobs unlike many of the girls in Medellin who aspire to only be putas all their lives.
These girls are pure quality that can demand whatever price they want and get it. You are not going to find them hanging out in Mangos or within 10 miles of the mansion. You might see them in Parque Llerras but they are not going to talk to you. You know the girls you see in Llerras that are "stuck up", well the reason they are like that is they know most of the gringos are lowlifes and that a Colombian man will treat them like a princess.
All you guys who are with 50, 000 pesos girls have no idea what is out there. If you have money, real money, and you live here, then you really can have some of the most beautiful woman on the planet. These are what the Colombians call "prepagos" not the girls that mix with the outsiders.[/QUOTE]What's the exit strategy?
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[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]... Most of these girls have treated me with nothing but kindness. I was a very powerful person at one time but people in the United States treat me now like I am an idiot. Even my stupid children wanted to put me away in a home. When I moved to Colombia it was to say a big FUCK YOU to everyone in the United States. People in Colombia are respectful to older people and remember you for what you were.
Now I am seeing American scum showing up here in Medellin. Don’t think people are not noticing you fools. I am going to tell you all one lesson in life that you really should pay attention to. You better learn to treat people with respect or something really bad is going to happen to you.
I am setting up a trust fund to help the girls here in Medellin. The girls that I have been with will all be taken care of for the rest of their lives. My children, grandchildren and great grandchildren are a bunch of spoiled brats who deserve nothing. My last days on this earth have been filled with happiness by a group of prostitutes and a couple prepagos. It is quit remarkable that things unfolded how they have, but they have, and that is how it is ...
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]I have to admit that my initial reaction to your first post was that you were being pompous, but I was mistaken.
This second post of yours shows that you are a caring and apreciative person.
I also appreciate the kindess I have found in the Colombiana.
I'm sure that I don't have the resources you have to financially reward them, but I always treat these chicas with warmness and with a good heart.
Take care amigo!
Ricker
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Go Jack
Jack,
I have not reached that stage in life, but more power to you man. You worked hard, its your money and you have a right to do whatever you want. You're right, old people here don't get any respect. I have seen it too many times where children see you getting old and only see the dollars. NO RESPECT for the experienced, wise old man. All they see is an old fool with money.
Good luck man. I respect you.
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Uncle Jack
I agree with most of what Uncle Jack said, I only took exception to the following:
"But I assure you that 99. 999% of the University students are not going to be seen in public with a gringo. These girls are very aware of their class position and realize that most of the gringos in Medellin are poor low class scum in the United States. These girls only date Colombians, or in the rare case rich gringos that live in Medellin."
Maybe I am part of the .001 %, but I have had some serious Colombian girlfriends, one in particular I was with for three years, and she was a university student and worked on occassion for one of the big modeling agencies in the city, took part in Colombia Moda fashions shows, etc. I am not a rich man, but I do speak fluent spanish and treated her well.
I guess I take exception to the idea that beautiful Colombian women from the middle and upper classes will not date gringos. If you are not uncouth and treat them well, I think there are many beautiful Colombian girls from all classes who are obtainable and would make great girlfriends and even-- gulp!-- wives.
My two cents.
SL
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Isn't the point of the forum to share information?
Uncle Jack provides good info. So Jack is in a different snack bracket, why does that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off ? Does it make the info any less relevant?
As Sailor suggests, different strokes for different folks.
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[QUOTE=George0724]What Uncle Jack is basically saying is that he wants us to leave the chicas to the rich like him because we can't or choose not to pay what he can.
Let someone with Bill Gates' money go down and tell Uncle Jack that he's a piker for not giving the girls what Bill can, and I'll bet he would make the same arguments as we do against what he is saying.
Some of the guys on this board don't even make $45k net and even if they wanted to pay what Uncle Jack suggests is appropriate, they wouldn't have the money to eat or even get home.
I am not attacking the man, only his elitist attitude and his attack on we papis pobres.
Not everyone can abandon his family, move to Colombia, and spend his life savings on Colombianas.[/QUOTE][blue]Hi George,
With all due respect, your arguments are complete bullshit.
First, Uncle Jack is employing a strategy that can only be employed by someone who is living [i]in the country[/i]. It simply cannot be employed by visiting tourist mongers, and thus has no effect on their chica-chasing ambitions.
Second, Uncle Jack's strategy is targeted towards a demographic group of chicas that does not work in the traditional venues, and thus it has no effect on the chica prices in the venues typically frequented by visiting tourist mongers, and thus it also has no effect on their chica-chasing ambitions.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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I want to be like Uncle Jack when I get old! :)
Well, it's good to see that at least one person out there can verify what I've tried to say now and then. That there is a high-end with some really stunning women, and that most of these are off-limits to the turistas unless you're hanging out with the right Colombians and are not just around for a few days.
In any case, if the street scene or the low-end casas are your thing, by all means enjoy it. I'm not all that crazy about them, but I've had decent/interesting experiences at those places too.
Just don't expect Sofia Vergara or Andrea Rincon types to pop up. :)
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The overarching point of Uncle Jacks posts ...
Is that ALL the women we deal with have to be treated with respect; this is especially important to bear in mind for visitors to country as potentially dangerous as Colombia. Doing so only enhances the experience for all parties involved. The inevitable sucess of a place like the Mansion does, unfortunately, have the side affect of drawing down some more unsavory, cheap-charlie types, who just a few years ago, would never have ventured beyond the relatively safe havens of the D. R. , or Costa Rica.
While I recently had a great visit renewing friendships with the Aussie and MDE Bob, as well as meeting new friends, my stomach would would turn as a particular 'monger' would proudly relate over breakfast how he would complain to a casa manager if a girl he just banged for an hour for 50k, had the temerity to ask him for a tip! Not to mention, never chipping in for the bill, but still hanging with the group at Mango's. I hope he recognizes himself here. "Ugly Americans" like him give us ALL a bad name.
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Seeing is good - Feeling is better.
My best sexual memories have not been from the prettiest girls I have met, but more the kind of "girl next door" type with a extraordinary sexlust.
And even that I have never fucked a "true famous" celebrity fashiongirl, I can judge from their leaked sexvideos on the internet that the sex they provide is not on pair with what most males would call "hot sex".
However, I have had some really, really good sex with quite a few girls next door.
Bottomline: I'm in it for the fun sex. If you want surface, buy a fashion magazine.
Best regards / Ken Apples
[QUOTE=Phunluv]I want to be like Uncle Jack when I get old! :)
Well, it's good to see that at least one person out there can verify what I've tried to say now and then. That there is a high-end with some really stunning women, and that most of these are off-limits to the turistas unless you're hanging out with the right Colombians and are not just around for a few days.
In any case, if the street scene or the low-end casas are your thing, by all means enjoy it. I'm not all that crazy about them, but I've had decent/interesting experiences at those places too.
Just don't expect Sofia Vergara or Andrea Rincon types to pop up. :)[/QUOTE]
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I asked my girlfirnd Cata yesterday, when we go out with a group to Mangos or where ever with a group of our guests and there escorts so to speak!
(at time's we have large groups at Mango's and resturants) every body will think you are the same as the escorts si o no! She said to me si, claro, don't you feel a little uneasy, she said yes I do but I don't care, a am really with you and this is your job to take people/guests out for a good time, we have been together for a year and a half.
I also asked her, are there many girls living off older men at all these Universities, she told me, ¨you wouldn't believe how many¨ I said to her yes I do.
I would say that every man here in Medellin who has money and a wife and children has a mistress, or two, even my father inlaw's from both my girlfriends.
Generally, Paisa's look down on Gringo's (and even other Colombian's from other parts of Colombia) now even more so, before when I was first here no.
Anyway, thats my two cents worth.
A. G.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I am setting up a trust fund to help the girls here in Medellin. The girls that I have been with will all be taken care of for the rest of their lives. My children, grandchildren and great grandchildren are a bunch of spoiled brats who deserve nothing. My last days on this earth have been filled with happiness by a group of prostitutes and a couple prepagos. It is quit remarkable that things unfolded how they have, but they have, and that is how it is.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you filled the story in a bit, it makes a lot more sense in context!
My hat off to you, that's quite a piece of philanthropy.
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Who was the gringo that was shot in the passagers side driving down 33rd street this last week ? (4 bullets in his side but he lived, well he´s still alive)
His girlfrind was driving and she was killed, apparently they were after her!
A.G.
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I guess I am that scum
I am rotating about 5 chicas, paying between 30,000 to 100,000 and they get coming back and asking if they can bring friends. One amiga works in a disco for 25,000 a day so my additional 30,000 three days a week comes in real handy.
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I was also put off by Uncle Jack's first post, although I agreed with a large portion of the content. I was also confused as to his choices based on my limited experience with Colombia. I saw Americans living in Colombia with 1 or more extremely beautiful girlfriends and while some were paying like Uncle Jack, several were paying for little more than dinner and transportation. In these cases the girls really were girlfriends, not girls on their payroll who were pretending to be their girlfriends.
His second post explained a lot more, and his third post explained more still. He has a great granddaughter that spent $20K on her own birthday. Considering that, my guess is that Uncle Jack is his LATE 70's to 80's. The fact that he is wealthy and lives permanently in Colombia, opens up opportunities that most guys who only visit once or twice a year will never see. At the same time, his age limits the ability to fully use the venues that a lot of mongers on this board like, whether he would want to try those locations or not. Can you actually imagine an 80 something year old man trolling Mayorista or hitting several strip clubs every night looking for a 30 min lay? It is a much safer, convenient, and smarter course of action to have these two college students come by his house every day and give him what he wants. I find that a lot of the older guys tend to gravitate towards having a steady girl they call (they tend to lease, instead of rent).
Just as guys who live in Medellin have more options than guys who don't, and guys who have more money have more options than guys who don't, guys in their late 20's to early 50's have more (or shall we say different) options than guys in their 80's. Personally I hope to be like Uncle Jack when I am in my 80's, with 2 hot teenagers worshiping me. Seeing how my grandpa lived when he was in his 80's, I admire the lifestyle of Uncle Jack. It beats eating creamed corn while waiting to die in some nursing home. But right now, I'm 31 years old, and having the same two girls every day, no matter how beautiful they are, would bore the hell out of me.
I don't pay these girls for companionship. I pay them to fuck and leave. I can get companionship for free in the U. S. In fact, that is the problem for me in the States. Pretty girls are willing to fuck me, but they want a "relationship" to go with it. I can't be tied down to one girl at this time in my life, no matter how pretty, because eventually I will get bored. I know several guys who monger in Costa Rica and Colombia that are like that. Some of us WANT the random, wild, sex with a Mayorista girl, Mansion girl or stripper. Truth be told, there is something thrilling about hunting in the low end strip clubs and streets and finding that diamond in the rough. We aren't looking for someone to worship us, we want someone to fuck us and leave. Now, I have spent time with putas, hung out with them and done fun (non-sexual) things, but I am not paying for that shit.
I absolutely agree with his point about being respectful to these women. I disagree about negotiating on price, however. These girls (if they are smart) will start off with an inflated price if they think you can afford it and will pay it. However, I find that once I speak to them (in Spanish) and I inform them that I know what the standard price is, they have no problem agreeing to a more realistic number. Perhaps it is different in Medellin, but in most of my time in Latin America, the concept of negotiating for price is generally respected. In fact, I have had several Colombianas tell me about how little they respect guys who just spend money like it was water. They will take the cash, but they won't respect the guy that is giving it.
This certainly isn't to say that the girls Uncle Jack is playing with don't respect him. The fact is, he is operating at a completely different level than most of us, and in most cases with a very different type of girl. Between his residency, his wealth, and his age, he is much more playing the roll of sugar daddy than monger. No problem there, everyone has there own style. Me, I don't even like TLNs.
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A puta is a puta; my poor puta is a goddess!
Uncle Jack,
It seems that you have a lot of resentment and you use your great wealth to purchase what you want.
I too come from that kind of family but I broke away from that when I was 20 and my mother told me she would disown me (as if I am property) for my engagement to a Puerto Rican who was not of the same faith. What to do? I moved out and held on to my freedom the money I earned on my own. While I was not rich when the inheritance came five years ago, I turned it way with out any gratification but a tax write-off.
To make a long chapter short, it seems you use you great wealth to control/buy people. If you choice the Cadillac that is fine for you but do not disguise it for what it is, you are using your money to find a woman who will worship you (because of your money) not them worship you for who you are. Anything to monger!
Sorry about your grandchildren but your two putas are no different; they will not die if you were too cut them off the will just move on to the next guy.
A little curious: it is very nice what you did for that little girl but, Woody Allen you did not say what she gives up to you. Just out of the kindness of your heart or do you just like slumming occasionally.
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]What I am talking about here is RESPECT not how much you guys are actually paying. If you people make an agreement to pay 50,000 pesos then that is a perfectly legitimate deal but there is no reason to act in such a disrespectful manner.
Let me explain using the example of the clowns I overheard at the restaurant. They were all talking shit about how they found girls the night before for 50,000 pesos and talked them down to 40,000. They were laughing about this and generally acting like complete idiots.
Well, these girls who are working for 50,000 pesos have had a hard life. They are there on the street because they cannot be anywhere else. And I assure you that they would rather be ANYWHERE else. I then see a group of much older men from the United States bragging how they talked down a poor girl by about $5.00.
I really got to wonder about these people. It just blows my mind that people like these clowns actually exist. You were born in the richest most powerful nation on earth yet are so low that you take pride in talking an impoverished girl down $5. 00.
Did you ever think that maybe she needs the money for something important? Even if it is not important I assure you she needs the money more than you do. I wondered if these Americans were all working for minimal wage so $5. 00 was a lot of money for them or if they all just had some sort of psychological disorder. When you see a girl on the street like that you should offer her more than what she asks simply because you can.
About 5 years ago I met a girl here who was working as a prostitute because her mother was very I'll. She could not afford to be in a private clinic and felt her mother would die without being in one. I sent someone directly to this clinic to see if she was telling the truth and it was true. I then went to the clinic and met her mother personally. The girl had quit school to work as a prostitute so she could help her mother.
I told the girl if she went back to school I would pay all that her mother needed. The clinic billed me each month until her mother eventually died. I ended up spending over 20 thousand dollars but I felt it was worth it. That girl has now completed college and has a future. I still see her once in a while and love her like she was my child.
My own great grandchildren are a bunch of self centered spoiled brats. I warned each one of them several years ago that they would be disinherited if they did not immediately change their lifestyles. They didn’t. Indeed, I just heard one spent about $20, 000 on her own birthday party. I sent her a birthday card the next day with a photo of a big zero on it so she knows her share of the inheritance. They think they will be able to still get my money after my death but they are in for a big shocker since every last penny is going to a charitable trust here in Medellin. The money has already been transferred outside of the United States and they are not going to be able to touch a dime.
My whole point here is most of you guys have a lot more than any of these girls will ever have and you should not take pride in being as cheap as you possibly can. These girls need to be shown kindness and respect. They are not standing on that street because they want to be. They are human beings who have been dealt a bad hand in life while most of you were born into the land of opportunity but it seems apparent that you never utilized those opportunities.[/QUOTE]
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The start of my report
Well I decided to stay in Laurelas for a few night because its near the Metro and its a 10 minute train ride to Centro. I arrived on Tuesday, grabbed a cab at the airport and arrived at the hotel within 40 minutes for 48,000 pesos.
The metro is loaded with so many hot chicas, that I could ride that thing all day long.
I started off at Athena and they had 8 chicas of which I wanted 4. One remembered me from last time and called the other two that were in her group and they have been coming over daily for 50,000 each.
I walked around BJ park and meet 2 street chicas that I hung around awile with and I don´t think I will have time for them this trip at all. I did have lunch with one hot one but I didn´t see her went I went thru the next day.
I went to new life and they had 15 there so I choose one asked her about coming back afterwards and she said 250,000 per night. I told her I will be here 12 nights and 100,000 was my limit. She just left here about an hour ago, our 4th night together. She arrives on time nightly.
I went to Sexy and they have two for one for 50,000 for 45 minutes. I had 4 sessions there and I showed the picture of my all night chica to the blonde and she likes her. I showed the all nighter the blonde last night and she likes her as well. Both are Bi and I shall have the blonde over on Monday hopefully.
Bell Suites had about 5 and I passed. I went to Kamasutra and they are doing the two for one for an hour for 45,000. I had a session and they wanted to come back for 120,000 each but I explained I pay about 50,000 and they quickly agreed. Maybe Monday, maybe Tuesday, I will see.
I have been using that map and its extremely helpful. Some casa have 12 or more working while others have about 8. There is no way I will get to all 30 casas this trip.
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Jack, I understand you
Even though I have nowhere the resources this man has, I understand his point of view. Every human being deserves to be treated with dignity and respect, especially when we travel to their lands. I have seen how disrespectful other people from the U. S. treat people in their lands. Usually, and deservedly in many cases, the locals don't tolerate the abuse. That's how, in many occasions, you hear of people getting their asses kicked. A lot of times, we don't see how our culture may clash with the host's way of living. At the same time, nickeling and diming providers can only result in one thing: Bad service. In all my travels, I've had bad service in 2 occasions; however, if you meet enough providers, you are bound to find an awful one from time to time. From my perspective, it is still not a good practice to complain in public or humiliate anyone for what happened. It is only money. I know for a fact that I will get it back. People are fighting everyday for bread and shelter in these countries, so they will do anything to get it. We are not entitled to dismiss their practices as it is us that are leaving the confines of our society to take advantage of theirs. As long as what you do makes you happy, does not offend anyone, or break the law, go for it. After all, we are all pursuing the same thing, our happiness. There is no need for put downs, accusations of price inflation, nickel and diming providers, etc. We all know our limits, so we need to stick to them and not worry about what the other guy does.
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]What I am talking about here is RESPECT not how much you guys are actually paying. If you people make an agreement to pay 50,000 pesos then that is a perfectly legitimate deal but there is no reason to act in such a disrespectful manner.
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[QUOTE=George0724]What Uncle Jack is basically saying is that he wants us to leave the chicas to the rich like him because we can't or choose not to pay what he can.
Let someone with Bill Gates' money go down and tell Uncle Jack that he's a piker for not giving the girls what Bill can, and I'll bet he would make the same arguments as we do against what he is saying.
Some of the guys on this board don't even make $45k net and even if they wanted to pay what Uncle Jack suggests is appropriate, they wouldn't have the money to eat or even get home.
I am not attacking the man, only his elitist attitude and his attack on we papis pobres.
Not everyone can abandon his family, move to Colombia, and spend his life savings on Colombianas.[/QUOTE]I don't get that from his posts at all. For me, his main point is that it pains him to see gringo low lifes acting stupid in public and routinely disrespectful to the girls. He's just articulating it to the community. Maybe he got fed up with it and just decided to let them have with both barrells. This board is better for it.
I've run into and seen the same types, albeit in many different forms, my whole travelling life. IMO, they should never step outside the US and I avoid them like the plague.
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[QUOTE=Dude55]My answer:
Who is disrespecting whom? Whenever there is a transaction that took place both parties are happy, right? Why the name calling about American "scum"?[/QUOTE]Because they are.
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Like all of us Uncle Jack is both very insightful and willfully ignorant at the same time.
He is right on when he says that mongers need to treat the paisas with respect. This is a universal truism that doesn't go away just because you change you whole latitude.
However, he is just plain too comfortable in his own income bracket to understand the middle class type of guys who mostly frequent the mansion. Inflation is also a universal truism that Uncle Jack is mostly shielded from by a relatively large financial nestegg and a relatively short remaining life expectancy.
He is swimming in completely different waters than the typical mansion monger and so is basically coming here with an apples to oranges economic argument. Of course the common gringo is concerned about inflation in prices. To fail to recognize this as a real concern is just ignorant.
Secondly, despite what anyone of the "high rollers" here writes, Aussie Greg included, the pool of chicas that the typical mansion style middle class gringo monger is likely to be able to afford absolutely dwarfs the pool of chicas that the high rollers are talking about. By definition there will be more middle class mongers, both gringos and colombians, than there will be high rollers.
However, the paisas who are in the places that mansion mongers normally frequent - Mansion girls, San Diego, Face Dos, and about a dozen parlors - is actually quite small. Without a conscious effort to avoid paying higher prices, over time inflation will ensue.
I have been traveling to Medellin since December of 2003. On my first trip Loutron, the popular parlor, was 80k pesos and the dollar was trading at 2800 to 1. Thats $28.57 a pop gentlemen. Loutron is now 175k and the dollar is hovering around 1800 to 1. Thats $97.22 folks, a 340% increase in 4 1/2 years. Gas hasn't gone up that much.
I'm not arguing that Medellin isn't still a great place to enjoy a great time, but at this rate lots of folks will be getting priced out.
Better recognize.
Shafty7
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Uncle Jacks post points hold true everywhere!
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I retired and moved to Medellin almost 8 years ago. I have been reading this forum for a few months to get the occasional chuckle. But I finally got to jump in here and straighten things out since you guys have no idea what you are talking about.
Gringos do not set the price of pussy in Medellin except in places where gringos all hang out. Indeed, your influence in this area is so small outside of the mansion that it is laughable.
I bet no one on this forum has ever actually met the type of girl the rich Colombians are screwing. These girls would not be seen dead with a tourist gringo. They are getting probably the equivalent of $1000 USD a night from Colombian men.
Yes, that is not a mistake, I am talking 2 million pesos or more for TLN. You guys think you can compete with that?
There are top notch girls in Medellin that can get whatever they want. I am talking genuine models not wannabies. Many of the University students have Colombian Sugar Daddies that pay their entire tuition, books and other expenses. But I assure you that 99. 999% of the University students are not going to be seen in public with a gringo. These girls are very aware of their class position and realize that most of the gringos in Medellin are poor low class scum in the United States. These girls only date Colombians, or in the rare case rich gringos that live in Medellin.
I myself have lots of money and mingle with the upper class Colombians. I also speak perfect Spanish. Almost every wealthy Colombian I know has at least one mistress and they treat them like a princess, money, school, clothes, etc. Etc. Why would these girls want to be with some lowlife gringo who thinks he can give her $50?
One of my Colombian friends introduced me to his mistress. She is a girl that looks better than any of the Mango dancers. She attends the University of Medellin on his dime. Not only is she drop dead gorgeous but she is also smart and speaks English to some degree. She is a real "prepago" not some gringo puta. She will probably be with him until she graduates and gets a real job. She would never be described as a wh0re since she is with only this one guy until he dumps her.
She introduced me to two of her friends that I am now maintaining. The only way these girls agreed to meet a gringo was because of good references from the friend and the fact that I live here and have lots of money. I am seen as an investor here not as a tourist, and that was the big difference that allowed me to meet them.
Here is how things unfolded. The first girl was brought over to my house. I had to take her out for diner and talk to her so she would decide if she wanted to become my prepago. She had no sexual contact the first day. She then called me the next day and said that she would be my "girlfriend". She then came over and fucked my brains out. She never asked for one peso for the first couple of weeks. When it came time to pay her tuition the bill magically appeared in my office. We both understand that this is how it works but there is never any discussion of money. In her eyes she is not a wh0re but just a girl who needs a way to have an education.
The second girl got connected with me in the exact same way and our relationship is almost exactly identical. They know I am with more than one girl, and the occasional puta, but that is ok as long as it is not talked about.
So how much does it end up costing when I do the math? I would say about $2000 USD a month for each girl. I rotate the two girls every night so they are screwing me about 15 times a month. That works out to about $135 USD a night which is really cheap when I do the math like that.
In exchange for $4000 a month I get two girls that worship the ground I walk on. Normally one will come over in the evening about 6:00pm and we will have diner, talk about her school, and then fuck for a couple of hours. In the morning we will fuck again and then she will go off to school. Both of them are drop dead gorgeous teenagers. One is 18 and the other is 19. They could easily be Mango dancers but they would not lower themselves to that. They do not use condoms and have both been tested. They treat me exactly like they would their Colombian boyfriend. When they graduate they will go on to have normal jobs unlike many of the girls in Medellin who aspire to only be putas all their lives.
These girls are pure quality that can demand whatever price they want and get it. You are not going to find them hanging out in Mangos or within 10 miles of the mansion. You might see them in Parque Llerras but they are not going to talk to you. You know the girls you see in Llerras that are "stuck up", well the reason they are like that is they know most of the gringos are lowlifes and that a Colombian man will treat them like a princess.
All you guys who are with 50, 000 pesos girls have no idea what is out there. If you have money, real money, and you live here, then you really can have some of the most beautiful woman on the planet. These are what the Colombians call "prepagos" not the girls that mix with the outsiders.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen
Why is Uncle Jacks point of view shocking to some? He is so spot on its not funny! God Bless him for giving blunt reality in this forum! Bottom line. In society circles anywhere in the world this holds true. Living in Los Angeles especially! When I first arrived and was making my why up the industry ladder. I dating some nice looking women. Now 15 years later at the top of my game in my profession and the money that goes along with it. No more hot waitresses. I've now finally go into the holy grail of "Playboy" type of women. 15 years ago I used to see these women with the older guys and wonder why? And mind you. I'm a decent lookiing educated guy with a good personality and such but couldn't get more than a first date back then. These girls would size you up on that first date. And if they didn't think you were gonna afford them what they needed. That phone would not be picked up again. Is it cristal clear now? . Wealth and position in any part of the world at any time in history always has and will bear the fruit of that. The average guy drives a nice Ford. People in my circles drive nice Mercedes and such. Some men hire maids while other date maids. Bottom line is beautiful women cost money. Alot of it. And not everybody can afford it. Trips, shopping, getting hair and nails done. Nice dinners, entertaiment cost, acting classes etc etc. Hell. A girl I'm dating wanted to see the Lakers. Cost me $1200 for the night. These type of girls arent gonna sit in the 3rd level gentlemen. Buy those tickets. It will be the last time you see her. She'll find the guy that will buy the floor seats in one day having lunch with her friends at Sunset Plaza.
If your looking for love. Go find a nice girl outside of a major city. In the world I and so many in the world run in its all about power, status and money. Love is something that will be there as long as you maintaining the lifesytle. I work may ass off and I'm gonna enjoy the finer things in life. Even when I travel abroad.
In Medellin I'm not ingrained in the upper level of society there like Uncle Jack. But I do have resources that get me the university girls. And it costs. Sometime 2-3 times what the average guy on here pays. I know I know. I'm driving up prices right? No I'm not. As Uncle Jack has pointed out. These girls do this on the side to get ahead. But not with the average tourists paying average prices. As one giirl told me. She just would'nt even bother getting out of bed for those prices. All this holds true with best looking women in Russia, Asia, Canada, Europe etc etc.
And please don't take this post wrong or as any kind of put down gentlmen. It was not meant for that. Only to give another educated point of view of the hobby and lifestyle we live.
Best to all!
Seal85
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For BlackSultan
[QUOTE=BlackSultan]Bog you are one hellified dude with the NASTY pics.[/QUOTE]Hi.
I'm sorry, my vocabulary is too short to understand this word (hellified), and so is my dictionary.
Mind explaining it to me?
Thanks.
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For Magis2000
[QUOTE=Magic2000]Col Bog 1,
As always fabulous photos and movies. I was curious, I understand you prefer smaller lighter girls but did you chose this one again because she has great sex skills and attitude? I ask this because she is slightly heavier, she is still very nice, I am not implying anything disrespectfull towards her but just wondered. Also could I politely ask why the intercourse scenes in general are short but the oral scenes are long, just curious. I really like the long oral scenes. Please do not be offended by my questions in any way, I am a big fan of yours, I really enjoy all your work here and we are really lucky to have the imput of your time and efforts.
Best of luck,
Magic[/QUOTE]Hi Magic2000.
Thanks for your encouragements.
I see no disrespect in your mail and will try to answer you.
1) Why are my intercourse movies always shorter than the oral scenes?
It is mainly due to my poor capacity of screwing keeping the camera focused on the action. I found it very dificult to do and I always move a lot.
I can assure you that I have tried several way to do it, but, so far, I still have the problem. Best thing would be to have a third person taking the camera while I screw, but this is not easy to find neither.
Meanwhile, while on my back, it's much easier to make the movie watching the girl blowing me.
Another thing is that I'm not young anymore and have to remain concentrate to screw or I'll loose stiffness. I have no such problem with oral action and can easily focus on the movie.
2) Paola.
Yes you're right.
She is by no way the kind of girl that attracts me, but she was recommended by Camila (another good girl), and I always try the recommended girls as I have had my best experiences with them (like Karen, recommended by Acuerpado).
I mean, Paola is not young, not thin (as I like), but she loves to fuck and does it very well. I don't like to screw with girls who are telling me all the time to hurry, that I'm too big, that I have to give them more money for this or that. My relation with Paola is a sexual relation with respect, and, I hope, some friendship.
I was with her yesterday all night long till this morning, and we both pushed our sexual experiments a little further than we had never did before...(to be published later).
I have never been able to do this with a quick meeting. I do go with casa's girls and even street girls, but the experiment is always bad to average as it takes time to establish a relation and start to enjoy having sex with a customer. I really love to feel the girl enjoying what I do with them. I'm not stupid enough to think they love me or things like that. But Paola and Karen for example like to have sex with me. Once again, they wouldn't do it for free of course, but I really think they like to do it with me, and this increase my pleasure.
To resume : I prefer to fuck well with a 4 (or even a 3), than badly with a10 as it has happened to me so often.
Thanks
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New Life Trip Report -- Big Thumbs Up
Was in Medellin recently for business. However, did find time to explore some of the P4P scene on the budget end. Checking the map that has the photos attached (thanks, Dutchman), found out that I was pretty close to New Life (cll. 56, "Bolivia", #43-39, 2nd Fl), so had to check it out. Wound up going back three days in a row.
New Life is a well-run casa. The manager had me sit down in an alcove with some couches, then asked the girls to present themselves. Good line-up; must have been 12-15 girls, most of whom were do-able, with some very attractive ones. After picking the girl, you proceed to a room with a full bathroom for the session. If you want a drink, you can order one and have it added to your tab. Payment is afterwards, at a cashier’s window. Cost quoted was 35, 000/30 min. , 45, 000/45 min. When you pay, they offer you a candy, like as if you were settling the bill at a restaurant. In all of my sessions, the girls enjoyed themselves too or were much better actresses than I deserved for my 45, 000. Also, each time we finished, they were more than happy to spend the rest of the time cuddling and telling me their life stories.
My first choice was "Tatiana" (though she called herself "Veronica" the last day I was there). Tall, leggy blonde, 27-year old, pretty face – though not pretty enough to make her claim about being compared to Julia Roberts plausible. Huge silver dollar nipples, but pretty bad implants, nice figure, especially since she told me she had an 11-year old daughter. She also told me she worked in LDV in Cartagena in the past. It was an excellent session. DFK from the start, good CBJ with some ball licking. When I played with her pussy, she got really wet, and seemed to come – even squirting a little. Several positions for FS.
The next day, I snuck out for another afternoon session. Tatiana was still there, but I decided to go for variety. Picked a pretty morena named Sophia, originally from Cali; another excellent choice. Could have starred in "Big Tits, Round Ass. " What caught my attention was the way she filled out her jeans with her bubble butt. When we were in the room and undressed, I was a little disappointed to see that she had a bit of a belly in front, and thick legs. But that ass was definitely a keeper, and she had a very nice hourglass shape from behind (good hip-waist ratio) that drove me wild when we did FS in doggy. Sophia also claimed to be 27, and she too had a daughter – 9 years old. Sophia gave me a PSE. She didn’t DFK, but made up for it in other ways. She showed off her nice ass as she gave me a great wet, sloppy CBJ, including DT. She fingered herself with her pussy inches from my face, then lowered herself down on me for DATY. She loved to talk dirty during the session. We did FS in several positions, finishing in a very energetic doggy.
On the third day, I took advantage of my last day in the Centro and made my last visit to New Life. Saw both Tatiana and Sophia, but wound up going for the first girl in the line up, blonde Juliet, because I thought she was really pretty. Of the three chicas, the session with Juliet paled in comparison to those with Tatiana and Sophia. When Juliet undressed, she showed the effects of having a kid (3-year old daughter), and had thick legs. She wasn’t too enthusiastic, and didn’t smell very fresh below. She did loosen up after a bit, and we wound up having a good session, but she was the only one of the three that I would not repeat with.
The best thing about New Life that I can say is that, even going three times in three days, there were still lots of girls who intrigued me and who I would have loved to have taken on a trial run.
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Case Orentia..or whatever on the hill
Casa Orentia (the casa with the white doors near Las Palmas)
Anywaz I checked out the place, multa is 120K COP, plus what arrangments you can come up with the chica.
Inhouse service is 150K for the chica and 70K for the room, grand total 230K for an hour, I thought it was kinda expensive, but I thought I would share the prices with yall.
Chicas, quality was good, about 10 plus girls, nice big house sofas ect. They offer liqour but not beer, open till 5am.
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It is all about respect
i moved to medellin about 8 years ago but my first trip was closer to 11 years ago. i was on the board of directors of a philanthropy society. we had historically distributed our money to help the poor in the united states. however, in the nineties there was a feeling amongst our society that too many of the american poor had developed an entitlement complex where they just expected money to be handed to them time and time again. so we began exploring other options which ultimately resulted in about 15 million dollars being spent in latin american countries.
it was my job to travel around south america to see if our work was achieving results. there were no gringos in medellin 11 years ago and it was very dangerous in many places. a church group in colombia had set up a program for a group of displaced people living a few hours from medellin. i was brought into this small village "undercover". a group of about 40 people knew who i was but it was there job to make sure no one else found out. i lived with these people for about a week before returning to medellin. i then spent a couple months in medellin meeting with various charitable groups and other churches. i am not a religious person but we found working with religious groups is often more beneficial for the society than "for profit" ngos.
in medellin i met many, many, many girls from all classes of society that who had never seen a gringo in real life. none of them really asked me for cash flat out. i am not a foolish old man and completely realize that why these girls are attracted to me. however, even though i know the attraction is the money i still always saw a kindness in their hearts that i no longer see in american women. as a rich old geezer there are no shortages of young american woman who will try for a piece of the pie. i have been around gold diggers all my life so if anyone thinks i am driving at night with shades on, you better think again! what i can assure you is that american gold diggers are conniving cold hearted and ruthless. medellin girls are just trying to get ahead in life.
after medellin i traveled to several other places in latin america and often found the same type of kindness in the women that i did not see in the united states. the women i found in latin america reminded me of american woman who lived before the 1960s. they were sincere, loving and sensual beings unlike their modern day american counterparts. i was married for over 30 years until death did us part. i never cheated on my wife and i love her dearly. when she died i felt i would never be attracted to another woman again not because i could not find a gold digger but rather because gold diggers were all that were available. latin america changed everything for me since although i know the girls come with a price tag i also know there is a real human being inside of the body and am not so sure i can say the same thing in the united states. i did not have the opportunity to return to medellin for over a year but when i did i decided i would purchase an apartment and retire here.
over the years i have had every type of girl from every class of society in colombia. i often give them much more money than they are expecting simply because i understand that they need this money much more than i do. i do not spoil them by buying them houses or cars because that will make them just like by grandchildren. my grandchildren and great grandchildren are trust fund "surfer dudes" and wannabe paris hiltons. i have asked them to come to colombia many times because i want them to see how other people live but they are always a little too busy. they think when i die there it is going to be a giant tidal wave of money rolling into their trust funds but i will be laughing last in my coffin when they see the big zero.
some of the girls i have been with are the high society model girls who are largely only with rich colombians. these girls will ask for 2-3 million pesos for the night and colombian men will pay it. some of these women have accumulated a lot of money and some come from fairly well off families. however, they still charge for their services because they know they can. there is one modeling agency that deals exclusively with the high-end girls. they have a catalogue of girls with prices ranges starting at 2 million and ending up over 10 million for one particular woman who is a well known model. i am not going to say her name here but even though she is a rich model she is available and this is commonly known amongst the rich. she would not be seen dead with a tourist so it does not matter much to you guys.
on the other end of the scale i have been with girls directly from the ghetto. i have spent a lot of time in the poorest of poor areas overseeing projects i helped started. nobody knows who i am since i never put my name on anything as that would make my life very complicated. nevertheless, i do go up into some of the worse areas at least once a month.
the poor girls from the ghetto have a ruff life. this often results in them acting too hungry and trying to just grab what they can. however, at the same time some of them have hearts of gold and really appreciate your help. this is why i am so bitter towards these ******* scum americans who i see trying to talk down a girl $5 because they think it is cool. you guys are the lowest of the low and i would love to see some of you start getting what you deserve.
i will tell about one ghetto girl that was really special. about two months ago someone who knows me found a genuine sweetheart in a strata two area. the guy who found her said she had just turned 18, was absolutely beautiful but dirt poor. i have several people who look for these types of girls for me all over medellin.
this girl was told she would get 150, 000 pesos an hour and was very happy with that amount. when i saw her i was shocked at how genuinely beautiful she is. what was nicer though is she treated me with kindness. after sex she held my hand and talked about her life. she said that she wanted to go to school and study tourism. i really thought she was sweet.
if she did a "fuck and run" she would have got the 150, 000 pesos we had agreed on. however, since she made me smile i put a million pesos in an envelope and put it in her purse as she was leaving. she said thanks and left.
the most amazing thing happened about 5 minutes later which is why i am telling this story. she actually came back with the envelope to tell me i made a mistake. she thought i had handed her the wrong envelope and did not want me to think she had stole from me. i gave her another million for her honesty.
i told her then and there to never sell herself to any gringo except me. i told her when she needs money to think of me. she is a poor girl that very much could have ended up on the streets. the idea of some scumbag gringo corrupting her by trying to offer her 50, 000 pesos makes me sick.
so she goes home thinking that gringos are nice generous people. the irony is she will probably now seek out gringos. unfortunately if she does seek out gringos then she is going to run into some of the clowns i saw at the restaurant. she may very well have sex with some of these scumbags for 50, 000. they will probably sit around giving the hi-fives to each other and perhaps one of them will say he only gave her 40, 000. if that happens she will quickly change and her opinion of gringos will be that they are all like the scum that is showing up these days in medellin. she will then become a "fuck and run" girl who takes what she can.
i talk to a very few number of gringos in colombia. the gringos i know are all people who invested money here and are living here. we all agree 100% about what i have been saying about the scum that is showing up. you clowns are starting to make americans in general look bad. there is a lot of talk amongst the colombians about how you idiots are acting. if the clowns continue leading us down the path that we are heading then the colombians will soon grow to hate us. and this is the most important point!
i believe we are almost at the crossroads here in medellin where we will all either continue to be welcome guests or we will be seen as a bunch of lowlifes. every day i hear more and more comments about the stupidity of americans. three or four years ago i never heard one colombian say a bad word about any american but now almost on a daily bases i hear comments.
about a month ago i was in the park with some colombian friends. we eat diner about once a week in parque lleras. a gringo walks by with some dark black wildebeest of a woman with her breasts hanging out and her shorts shoved up her ass. almost everyone at my table started laughing and pointing this out. i noticed that other colombians at other tables were pointing this out as well. i was so embarrassed to be an american at that moment i felt like walking over and whacking this idiot over the head with my cane. i wonder if that piece of trash american is reading this right now? if so you committed a huge faux pas in front of hundreds of people. no colombian man would be seen dead in public with that girl. everyone is saying "look at that lowlife gringo with no shame. " you might as well have put a giant sign over your head saying "look at me i am white trash". if that type of woman is what you desire then enjoy her in your hotel but do not be parading her around strata 6 when people are trying to eat.
so as i said we are soon going to be hated by a lot of people because of the path the scum is setting for us. you clowns are an embarrassment for us all. learn to pay these girls all that you can afford so you set a high standard for gringos. you assholes who cannot afford what the colombians are paying should stay at home rather than bring shame on us all. and remember that these girls are human beings and should be treated as such.
my grandfather was a wealthy man and one thing he always told me was that no matter how much money someone has that if they do not have character then they are equal to a cockroach and deserve to be crushed. i can remember my father and him each morning greeting each worker with a handshake. they would sit and have a coffee with even the gardeners and ask about how their lives were. they never felt they were better than anyone and treated everyone with respect.
i think of them when i see the scum gringos walking around medellin. you guys think you are better then these people because you have a little more money than they do. you think you can treat some poor girl on the street like she is dirt since you were fortunate enough to be born in the united states. i am telling you that you are wrong. these girls are better than you. you are the bottom of the barrel and a complete disgrace to humanity. in short: you have no character. and keep that in mind because some of us have big feet.
i am going to get off my soapbox now. i do not think i will be making many more posts on this site but i will read it. the problem is i have arthritis and cannot type very much. so i have to go over to a friends place to write up these speeches. we spent two hours writing this up and i cannot burden him with these tasks every day.
on my final note, the next time i see you clowns making asses of yourselves in public i may not restrain myself. beware of the cane!
my $2000 a month girl is coming over now. she wants to cook up some cookies for me. bye guys.
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My take out of this whole thread is that no matter what your economic status is, if your in this hobby, try to act like an adult and show you girl, no matter where you got her some respect. I have found that if you treat them nice they will want you to be a repeat customer, treat them as nothing more than a warm hole, and no matter how much money you toss at her your experience will not be the best.
Some of you have raised questions about how much this guy is spending. If you go back to his first post you will see that he figured it out to be about $135 a night. If you read into his post it is also sin condom. A lot of you will pay a premium for that service.
Like Uncle Jack said, don't be talking up your conquests with your buddies in the cafe down the street, you never know who is within earshot and not everybody wants to hear about what you did last night and what you paid for it. Try to show a little class.
Jack. I'm glad your living your life the way you want to. Screw anybody that has an issue with that. I just wish I was in the same tax bracket as you, but I know my "Stimulus check" will be going to help stimulate an economy that Mr. Bush would frown upon. LOL
RG.
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I like to speak in facts, things you can prove, things you observe. I realize I don't have the experience that guys like Ricker, Aussie Greg, Uncle Jack, Jackson, Sandman, Relapse, Seal85 ect have. I am only 27 years old, but going to sea these past 5 years and seeing the world I can understand exactly what your talking about, and I mostly agree. I came to Medellin to live when I was 25, not 85, or 45, or 55. I watch you guys, see how you operate ect. But lets get real.
Were all in Colombia because our money buys more, its cheap, nice and we get women we couldn't normally get, or these women treat us especially well becuase of our money, age, profession and class (I don't like the word class, plebe, 1st class, 4th class I thought it was B. S. Then and B. S. Now; but its life).
When I talk about prices here its only to assist mongers so they know what to pay, and don't get taken advantage. Honest business, you pay the set rates and have a good time.
Theres a word I like its called "community" and thats what we are us "gringos" in Medellin are a community like it or not.
Uncle Jack, some of your comments were exactly right on, respect Colombia, respect Colombian women don't treat them badly, don't hit them, pay them what was agreed upon and be gentlmen like and you will go far in Colombia. The essence of your reports was more like I have money and top quality girls so hahaha. That doesnt help anybody. If the point was that there are men with money who pay women lots of money I think everybody learned that lesson, its the reason why WERE ALL IN Colombia, AND READING THIS BOARD.
I agree a puta is a puta, prepago, grill, whatever, I personally find more respect for a women who sells her body to feed her family then a college girl who dates a 80 year old man for nice shoes, tuition and clothes. The only diffrence that matters is attitude, and how they treat you, make you feel. To each his own and it is what it is, but all this talk about class and the difference is stupid, and only serves to make the client feel better about his purchase! But don't kidd yourself or fool yourself becuase it is what it is
Colombia is changing, more gringos are coming in, our dollar is falling everybody needs to chip in with advice, and experience on getting gourgous women, and great service.
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]I like to speak in facts, things you can prove, things you observe. I realize I don't have the experience that guys like Ricker, Aussie Greg, Uncle Jack, Jackson, Sandman, Relapse, Seal85 ect have. I am only 27 years old, but going to sea these past 5 years and seeing the world I can understand exactly what your talking about, and I mostly agree. I came to Medellin to live when I was 25, not 85, or 45, or 55. I watch you guys, see how you operate ect. But lets get real ...
[/QUOTE]Mi amigo Sailor, I dig what your saying!
What's funny to me is, now after Uncle Jack's posts, all these other guys making posts about how rich they are too.
You know as well as I do, the key to really enjoying Colombia and its' beautiful women is being able to talk with them and enjoy their loving nature.
Simply pay them fairly and treat them with kindness. It's very easy and very rewarding actually.
To be honest, most other gringos I meet in Colombia are OK, but the popularity of Medellin has certainly attracted some trash, and that's too bad.
Take care amigo
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I think it's important to review one thing Jack is talking about:
Guys, try to keep a low profile, remember this IS Colombia we're talking about here! Yeah, there's been a huge improvement in security but why push it? If you can, try to dress more like the locals, and talking loudly about chicas in English with your buddies in Parque Lleras is at the very least a tacky thing to do.
The foreigner status does give you a little protection, but I really think one day, one drunk stupid gringo is going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the wrong guy (who just doesn't give a shit about your gringo status) in one of those techno joints and something very scary is going to happen to him.
One more thing: one girl I sessioned with showed me two fake $100 bills that she claimed she was paid with from a previous client.
Assuming that story's true, I hope no one here in this board is doing scumbag shit like that! If you can't afford the girl, just go to the cheaper venues. That girl got into a lot of trouble with her agency (they ended up firing her), not to mention the place she tried to exchange the counterfeit bills for pesos.
Also, who do you think owns or operates these agencies or some of the clubs? Some of these people are not exactly saints. . . and you're trying to pull a fast one on their turf, in friggin' Colombia??? It weirds me out the risks some gringos take here. I guess if you're leaving the country the next day, you can get away with that kind of shit, but otherwise, I think trying to perpetrate scams like that is just crazy.
Finally, someone responded to my last post by saying the hotter looking girls usually aren't as good in the sack. All I can say is that for me I've had some great sessions with some amazing bodies and I've also had some lackluster mechanical sessions with very plain looking girls. So at least from my experience, I don't see much of a connection between looks and session quality.
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As a medium class Colombian, i have to say I have more respect for people like Sailor2006 than Uncle Jack, even if Jack is so charitable and philanthropic and is giving all his money to poor people of Colombia. Maybe it is because they are more honest and they aren't kidding themselves and lying to themselves as well, thinking they are really great people, because they pay really well for sex, and thinking they aren't exploiting those girls.
What I am trying to say is, if you came here to pay for sex and girls, cool, treat the people around with respect, and I am pretty sure everyone will treat you the same. But please, please get off your high horse, and don't think that because you are paying really well, that doesn't make it less true that you are still paying for sex, as the rest of the people in this forum do.
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The more Uncle Jack writes, the less I like.
The Gringo paid 50K to a girl who is normally paid 20K by Colombians. I have only lived in Colombia for 5 years. In general Colombianos treat women much worse than Gringos do. That may not be true in your estrato 6 penthouse crowd, Jack. But it is true in my estrato 4 barrio.
I do agree with your comments about Gringos not affecting pricing. But I don't agree with much else you say.
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Agree
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I moved to Medellin about 8 years ago but my first trip was closer to 11 years ago. I was on the board of directors of a Philanthropy Society. We had historically distributed our money to help the poor in the United States. However, in the nineties there was a feeling amongst our Society that too many of the American poor had developed an entitlement complex where they just expected money to be handed to them time and time again. So we began exploring other options which ultimately resulted in about 15 million dollars being spent in Latin American countries.
is coming over now. She wants to cook up some cookies for me. Bye guys.
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You're a bit tough on these tight ass type of guys but I agree with your assessment. I try and consider the source of their arrogance but I don't have to look far. You have a philanthropic bend that most Americans lack, due to our cultures feelings of superiority over any other cultures. I'm not excluding the philanthropists on that thought either. Sorry about that but imho the superiority issue can be a problem even with charities in that they use their monetary gifts as a means of control. It's well intentioned but again at times it goes to Americans general idea that we have all the answers. I could go on and on with this but I totally agree with you that Americans can be thoughtless (me included) when it comes to blending in and not making asses out of themselves. I tell you it will come back and bite us all in the ass if were not careful.
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Thanks for the heads up Uncle Jack
Great reports Jack. I have thought of doing exactly what you are doing and plan my first trip to Colombia this year.
I have known hundreds of visiting Colombian SW in St Maarten in the last 3 years. Even the hardest pros among them have a soft side if you treat them with respect and tenderness. And the typical girl can be amazingly sweet.
But I can tell you, they are just like everyone in the world. When they have a few bad experiences with guys from a certain group, they stereotype that group and they stop giving good service to those guys, or charge them more money. Even to guys who are "innocent" but just look like the scum. And I have seen plenty of visiting Gringos disrespecting the girls here, although moist are respectful and so far the few sum have not created a bad reputation for Gringos (mainly because the local guys are much worse on average).
Jack mentioned that he keeps a low profile in Medellin. This seems like a good idea. I have worried about the same thing. If you are generous in Colombia, how do you avoid coming to the attention of dangerous low life's?
Thanks for adding life to the Medellin thread and sparking a really good discussion.
Zing
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Hot of the Press
I have been told and I dont whether its true, the Americian Embassy is re-locating to Medellin from Bogota.
They are moving into the new building being constructed in front of the Mansion.
Aussie Greg.
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Like Uncle Jack I have only lurked in the past but this topic has sparked my ass to post a thought that bothers me everyday. I am just an average working guy that at 50 yrs old is enjoying traveling away from the stateside gold diggers. I don’t fault them, it is a society we have developed and quite honestly I hold my own within that society but frankly I am just plain bored and wanting a change. Once finding Medellin I fell in love with the country and its people. In the past two years I have spent about 25% of my time there. I am in the process of setting up a second home and working on a couple business ventures. I have made some very good contacts with people of higher stature and have had some serious talks concerning the P4P scene in Colombia. I have had universal replies.
The Gringos coming here for sex with young ladies and flaunting it is RUINING our reputation.
I just had a Colombian couple visit me here at my home in Texas. During one of those similar discussions they told me that upon first making my acquaintance they were leery of me thinking that P4P was all I was interested in. They also told me that one of the things that changed their pre-conceived opinion of me was when they saw me repeatedly with the same lady and how I treated her and genuinely cared for her and her son. Yes, this lady is a working girl, and yes, they surly know.
I don’t feel I am any better than anyone here so please don’t miss-interpret me. I love the p4p scene. I play at all levels. But I keep that playing within the confines of the playground. I don’t get anything out of parading these young ladies around Oviedo mall or Parque LLeras. Personally I find it embarrassing and disgusting when I see it. Who do you think you are fooling? I am a very fit athletic man with plenty of game but I know I am not fooling anyone when seen doing this. Even when I do take one of my regular ladies out, even with the obvious feelings between us, I don’t fool myself into believing everyone around us isn’t wondering. What concerns me as much as my image is that of the ladies. In most cases they will accept these offers as they are hoping to get that new blouse they so need and desire or a nice meal and are willing to embarrass themselves for that gain but why put them thru that. If you want to help the girl, give her a tip so she can get what she really needs. Or better yet, take her to Exitos, give her some cash and wait in the coffee shop while she shops.
And watch what you are talking about in public. Don’t make an ass of yourself.
As for the rest of it. Offer the lady what the going rate is for the environment in which she is working and treat her like a princess. If you have traveled all this way to haggle over a few bucks you really are showing your true colors and will be rewarded as such. Bitching, whining and complaining isn’t going to change anything other that the way you are perceived. Who knows, maybe you just don’t give a fuck. Some of us do.
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Respect? Not for you, Uncle Jack
Initially I was reading Uncle Jack's memoires with certain amount curiocity, but it has turned to pure repugnancy. Certain things he wrote have struck a nerve like nothing else I've read on this site so far.
I'd really like to write line-by-line response, but it's going to take time and I'm afraid it's going to be uninformative and extremely antagonistic. This is the short version, and if Jackson allows it to be posted, I just might do a full version later on.
This insight into Uncle Jack's life is what really made me mad:
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I will tell about one ghetto girl that was really special. About two months ago someone who knows me found a genuine sweetheart in a strata two area. The guy who found her said she had just turned 18, was absolutely beautiful but dirt poor. I have several people who look for these types of girls for me all over Medellin. [/QUOTE]So, Uncle, you have some guys that scout barrios for fresh, uninitiated meat, just old enough for you not to go to jail, with the sole purpose to please you? The University-type girls don't satisfy you anymore?
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]This girl was told she would get 150, 000 pesos an hour and was very happy with that amount. When I saw her I was shocked at how genuinely beautiful she is. What was nicer though is she treated me with kindness. After sex she held my hand and talked about her life. She said that she wanted to go to school and study tourism. I really thought she was sweet.
If she did a "fuck and run" she would have got the 150, 000 pesos we had agreed on. However, since she made me smile I put a million pesos in an envelope and put it in her purse as she was leaving. She said thanks and left.
The most amazing thing happened about 5 minutes later which is why I am telling this story. She actually came back with the envelope to tell me I made a mistake. She thought I had handed her the wrong envelope and did not want me to think she had stole from me. I gave her another million for her honesty. [/QUOTE]She was "very happy" with COP 150k? She didn't really knew the going rate, did she? Were you her first trick, or just her first "gringo? " Or maybe yours was her first "dick" she's ever had? Was she a virgin? Was that the reason you were so generous?
And so you gave her "another million for her honesty".another proof that she was a "virgin" in the "business. " Do you really think your COP $2million (US $1100) will keep her off the streets? For how long? It's not enough to move out of the barrio, or to learn a trade, or to go to university.
The best part, however, is this:
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I told her then and there to never sell herself to any gringo except me. I told her when she needs money to think of me. She is a poor girl that very much could have ended up on the streets. The idea of some scumbag gringo corrupting her by trying to offer her 50, 000 pesos makes me sick. [/QUOTE]First, you acknowledge that you're a selfish person that you are (in my opinion of course) and basically want to add this chica to your harem, but without any explicit promise to really help her to CHANGE her life. Then you have the cojones (I've got to give you that) to go on a rant about another gringo "corrupting her by rying to offer her 50,000"? Do you even realize that you've already done the "corrupting" part? Do you realize that YOU are the scumbag that you so much despise? Again, you took a poor (maybe desperate), naive, 18yr old chica and made her a (pick one) puta/prepago. You think not? If her family finds out, chances are she will be called a "puta" no matter what you think. Even if you think you've done an honorable thing by "helping" her. The reality is that you didn't.
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]So she goes home thinking that gringos are nice generous people. Unfortunately if she does seek out gringos then she is going to run into some of the clowns I saw at the restaurant. She may very well have sex with some of these scumbags for 50, 000. If that happens she will quickly change and her opinion of gringos will be that they are all like the scum that is showing up these days in Medellin. She will then become a "fuck and run" girl who takes what she can. [/QUOTE]And you will lose a chance to bang another naive chica that ganuinely worships you? Can't you just pay her and send he on her way? What did you do (other than paying her) to deserve her worship?
Uncle Jack, this girl will become what you've helped her to become.
If you're so worried, put her on your payroll. Or marry her.
One more point: because someone offers $50K for a "short time", he's a scumbag? Your "$2k girls" on average get COP $120 000 per day, is it so much money? By your own admission, upper-class model types get a lot more from Colomban sugar daddies. The girls who work in Panama and Caribbean islands earn a lot more per month than that. And, when in Colombia, they won't be seen with gringos just like 2 university p***as that you're sponsoring. And they are INDEPENDENT. And unlike your p***s, they don't buy Gucci and Prada, they have to support their families and their children. They are not upper class university wh**es who need more more more more, just like so despised by you USA women, but they're still loving and grateful. You can easily have a "prepago" in the States. What? You call them gold-diggers?
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]You guys think you are better then these people because you have a little more money than they do. [/QUOTE]It's your assumption. I can tell you that you are mostly wrong.
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]These girls are better than you. You are the bottom of the barrel and a complete disgrace to humanity. In short: You have no character. And keep that in mind because some of us have big feet. [/QUOTE]What about yourself? I think that the 18-year old girl that you "initiated" with the promise of COP $150k, the one who brought back 1million, is better than you as well!
And what's that about "big feet? " Please forgive me, English is not my 1st language, and I don't understand the meaning of this expression. Is it by any chance a threat?
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I am going to get off my soapbox now. I do not think I will be making many more posts on this site but I will read it. The problem is I have arthritis and cannot type very much. My $2000 a month girl is coming over now. She wants to cook up some cookies for me. Bye guys. [/QUOTE]If you have a "heart of gold", and really want "to make a diference", why don't you buy a computer for that poor 18-yr old girl from the barrio, send her to computer courses where she'll learn the basics, and then ask her to type for you? I'm sure she'll be more than happy to take a break from f***ing you and making cookies and practice a skill.
In summary:
1. The sole purpose of Uncle Jack's rant is not to provide info, but to justify his selfish reasons for not wanting gringos in Colombia, and, perhaps, to justify his existence. It's so easy to say "you should respect the girls. " Do you think adding a COP1million adds to the respect? Not in my opinion.
2. It seems to me he thinks he's doing an honorable thing by "sponsoring" girls. However, he wants to have exclusive right to them, and all others, even those he's not paying them. Not becasue he's worried about them becoming p***as. Oh, noooo. His reason is that he doesn't want "a smoking gun" (a few rowdy gringos) to become a "mushroom cloud" (too many foreigners taking 1st stab at young fresh "meat") The p***s and prepagos are not your slaves, Jack, they deserve to have other means (even from other men) of supporting themselves. You may be rich, but you don't own them.
3. Becasue he's had a priviledged life and may have done some "charitable" deeds, he's better than the rest, and deserves more. Well, you are not charitable at all. It is called "quid pro quo": just like the rest of us you pay them for sex. And sex you get. It is not charity, it's paying for sex.
In my opinion, the charitable deeds that you may have done donot absolve you from what you're doing now.
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If I'm totally wrong, and that 18yr old girl and others that you've "sponsored" are hardcore and have been in the business long before you/your pimps found them. Well, I'll take relevant parts of my rant back. But you have to find cojones to tell the world that I am wrong.
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An interesting and relevant exchange takes place in the movie "Rosario Tijeras. " One plotline depicts a young, naive girl who for he 1st time goes to the VIP floor full of rich colombnians, gringos and "model-type" prepagos. This event changes her life. Near the end of the film, she goes to the apartment of the "wealthy colombian. " While kissing him, the following exchange takes place:
Rosario: you've always taken care of me. You've always treated me well and protected me
Sugar Daddy: Rosario, I want you for myself. Just for me
Rosario: Is there anyone who treats me better?
While still kissing him, she pums lead into his belly.
Uncle Jack, that 18-yr old girl may not have a gun, but make no mistake, if now she's kind and loving and naive as you claim she is, in a not so distant future she'll likely feel what is shown in the film. You said it yourself. Those girls are not stupid.
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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]I have been told and I dont whether its true, the Americian Embassy is re-locating to Medellin from Bogota.
They are moving into the new building being constructed in front of the Mansion.
Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE]That will be handy for the marriage ceremonies.
Have the paperwork filled from the Mansion.
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[QUOTE=WhiteLight]We have a three bedroom apt. in Poblado, Patio Bontio area. Close to parque lleras & Dann Carlton Hotel, Medellin Clinic. It is very private with large spaces, several terraces, including one with out side (private) shower.
The rent is $45/night for first floor bedrooms, there are two, and $75/night for the second floor master bedroom suite. The rates are reduced for guests staying longer than two weeks.
Internet access, cable TV and toll free phone to the U.S. are available & included in cost.
Contact whitelight for more information.[/QUOTE]WhiteLight,
I'm Interested in rent your apt, and i need more information, please send me the information. I need to know if all the rooms have bath, if you rent only 1 bedroom or rent the total apt. etc. TKS
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[QUOTE=AirJunky]The Gringos coming here for sex with young ladies and flaunting it is RUINING our reputation.[/QUOTE]The vast majority of Colombians have no contact with any extranjeros and thus have no opinion what so ever. I have been embarrassed by some actions of a very few extranjeros. And I had quite a bit of contact with sex tourists during the 4 years I lived in Laguito. In my barrio in Medellín, Santa Mónica, the only time I see an extranjero is when I look in the mirror or when a friend comes to visit.
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The Uncle Jack issue.
First of all, I agree with alot of what Jack is saying, well 99% anyway.
In Medellin you can find (it takes time) these type of high class girls for alot less money than Jack is throughing around, good on him and if keeps him happy, go for it.
As my girlfriends are University students (yes they have graduated from high school!) I meet there friends and hear all there stories and problems, many have asked me to find nice boyfriends for them but I will not because of all the problems with relationships, money, family etc.
I ask my girlfriends, arnt you concerned about what people say when you are with me as its your country, your people. They have both said to me, yes they know what people say but they dont care, as they are happy with me. The girls parents know all about me but if there daugther is happy then so are they (well they put on a good face anyway)
I would say this, nearly every Colombian family man with money has his mistresses or two or three!
It all boils down to this, no money, no honey! Its only a question of how much.
AG.
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Greg,
Didn't get to meet you when I was in Medellin in early April, but I look forward to meeting you in June.
You said that I guy can get a university girl for a lot less than what Uncle Jack is shelling out. Assuming a guy is living there, what does it take to get and keep one of these university girls? How much are we talking about, beyond dinner and entertainment? Is it a matter of paying their tuition? Getting them a job? Taking them on shopping trips? Slipping them an envelope full of pesos? How is it actually done and how much does it tend to cost? I know it varies depending on the girl and guy, but what is a ballpark estimate of what is expected and what the is the protocol for setting up such a relationship?
I saw so many guys in Medellin in these relationships, you would thing that every gringo was required to take a course on how to have a hot university student for a girlfriend/mistress as part of gaining their residency.
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Uncle Jack
I don't think it is right to attack Uncle Jack for his opinion. As an American I am well aware that many Americans traveling abroad are often the loudest, and sometimes if not often the rudest, in the crowd. It is almost like we get some level of freedom being in a non-aligned nation like Colombia, Thailand, etc. All travelers, no matter where they are from should be conscious of their actions, especially after they have had a bunch of drinks. We are often GUESTS in a foreign country and we should act respectfully of the Country and their culture.
Additionally, what is the point of being rude to the girls? They are just doing a job and trying to survive in this world of ours. Like any job, some girls are going to do their job better than others. I can't believe that girls grow up thinking, "gee, I want to live the life of a Barbie doll...NO I WANT TO S_ _ K D_ _ K FOR A LIVING!" A large percentage of these girls do it because they have to or they do not know another way. We benefit from this and thus have become MONGERS! I don't want to overpay, but I also don't want to haggle of $5. She needs it more than I do. However, I do not want to overpay or be a sucker either. But either way, we should treat the girls with respect as a human being.
As for the price, I should note that I have not been to Colombia (yet). However, I travel a lot and usually can understand the scene. As far as what Uncle Jack says, he is quite right. In any society there are going to be an upper level of intellectual and beautiful women. If you dated a Playboy model in America, I would bet that it is still going to cost more than $2000 per month, in one way or the other.
The girls that we know from mongering are a level down from that upper realm. They still might be beautiful, but most have not had the opportunity to go to school (past a certain point). Chances are, if you want what Uncle Jack is referring to, upper realm, educated, beautiful women, you are, no matter where you are, going to pay a premium for their companionship. Think about it...who the hell wants to be in their business. They do it out of need, not usually shear enjoyment. Those that get the opportunity to go to college usually do not HAVE to do this 7 nights a week at some cruddy bar. However, if the premium is right, like Uncle Jack is referring to, one would think that almost any girl could be bought (or at least rented). We benefit again!
I don't think we should judge either the girls or Uncle Jack. However, we should take to heart the parts of his emails that we believe might be true and try to make sure we do not act in that manner. We can be brothers in mongering and still be civil to all involved.
I for one, would love to spend the twilight of my life living like Uncle Jack is living (apart from not getting along with children and grandchildren). If only I was lucky enough...
Happy Mongering to All
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Aussie greg
Hit the nail on the head, it takes TIME, lots of patience on our part, becuase youll find many many many girls here in Medellin, with bad service bad attitudes, and greedy to match, but with time, you can find awsome girls at cheap rates, weather it be by hour, day, week, or month. These "good girls" will worthship you, if you have a strong hand and treat them with respect and don't take their B. S. ! What I mean by this is if they lie to you, disrespect you ect. Colombian women are use to strong men, they like their guys to look good, be wealthy and most importantly be in control, and like ricker says talk to them, schmooz them ect. Must haves in Medellin to be like aussie greg ricker uncal buck!
1. Speak spanish
2. Have money
3. Have some style or game
4. Be a man
If your girl lies to you, disrespects you, comes late (way late),brings amigas, or cousins on dates or does not show she is toying with you and thinks of you a "gringo ATM" and does not respect you. DITCH HER ASAP
Gringo tourists (who dont speak spanish) can have an awsome time in medellin, the easist way is to stay at places like the mansion or castle (not a plug for greg just a fact), or hook up with guys whom live in medellin. these people have contacts and plenty of girls frequent the mansion, or even hit all the local hotspots and PAY REGULAR prices plenty of cute women there, for 100K or 150K.These girls are just as attractive as "high class" girls but they have more ware and tear on them....
but since this conversation is about the "college girls" whom dont work at places like F2, or SD but are still P4P, "aussie greg" and "uncal bucks" are
100% correct it takes time and money, becuase these girls dont wanna be seen with gringo tourist whom does not speak spanish and since she wont work at the local p4p to earn 2 million COP plus a month they will charge highrates and look for a longterm relationship from a rich colombian. its really just math again.
P.S. Jackson you edited some of my comments about the age of memebers of this board, my intent was not to insult you guys becuase your old, but merely to state "old dogs" think and act diffrently then us "puppies" i look forward to the day when i am as wise as you guys, and long long long time form now being able to make the other puppies and smaller dogs hide
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]First of all, I agree with alot of what Jack is saying, well 99% anyway.
In Medellin you can find (it takes time) these type of high class girls for alot less money than Jack is throughing around, good on him and if keeps him happy, go for it.
As my girlfriends are University students (yes they have graduated from high school!) I meet there friends and hear all there stories and problems, many have asked me to find nice boyfriends for them but I will not because of all the problems with relationships, money, family etc.
I ask my girlfriends, arnt you concerned about what people say when you are with me as its your country, your people. They have both said to me, yes they know what people say but they dont care, as they are happy with me. The girls parents know all about me but if there daugther is happy then so are they (well they put on a good face anyway)
I would say this, nearly every Colombian family man with money has his mistresses or two or three!
It all boils down to this, no money, no honey! Its only a question of how much.
AG.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]I have been told and I dont whether its true, the Americian Embassy is re-locating to Medellin from Bogota.
They are moving into the new building being constructed in front of the Mansion.
Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE]Hi Greg,
Those State Department gringos are smart! LOL
Schwmm
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[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]No Colombian man would be seen dead in public with that girl. Everyone is saying "look at that lowlife gringo with no shame. "[/QUOTE]Here, we have to accept the fact that some mongers will fuck anything. Really, I'm not flaming anyone, but many of the pics of chicas posted I wouldn't even consider a blow job from and some of them are major league unattractive. But to each his own, those guys think their chicas are 7, 8, and 9s and for me they are zeroes. Whatever.
I'm totally into high end model type chicas but I can usually find great quality at $200-$300 USD. I'd pay $500+ for a hot model type chica but haven't found a source yet that delivers the goods and no just over-priced cute chick. Send me a PM if you can hook me up!
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It's about Hypocrisy
I began reading Uncle Jack’s thesis with a sympathetic eye. I liked his subject ("It’s All About Respect") and I also treat all the girls, in fact, all people, with the type of courtesy and respect he described.
However, as I continued to read, I began to realize a number of things that concerned me.
First and foremost, his assertions regarding American women are outrageous and just plain wrong. Perhaps he, when he lived in the States, moved in certain circles because of his "station" where such women ("Gold Diggers") are prevalent, and he was just unable to branch out and get involved in groups where more "normal" American women are present. But in any case, his general characterization of American women as "conniving cold hearted and ruthless", in his words, is again, outrageous and just plain wrong Every day I work with dozens of American women, I know all the soccer moms from my sons’ teams, the ladies in my neighborhood, the volunteers at the free clinic where I am also a volunteer, my kids’ teachers and their friends’ moms, and many others, and I can’t think of a single one who I would classify as a Gold Digger. In fact, in all my 50 years, I’ve probably only met a handful, out of all the thousands of American women I’ve known, who might be characterized as such. Truly, I would be willing to assert, in the strongest possible terms, that 99% of the women to whom I just referred could not be purchased for sexual activity like the Columbian prostitutes with hearts of gold who Jack plays with. Perhaps that’s one of his issues with American women, that he couldn’t just throw them a few hundred dollars to have sex with him, or not, but regardless, American women are people too, with feelings every bit as deep and complex as the 18 year old Columbian girls selling their bodies to Jack, and if he could not find one, after his wife passed, who loved him for him regardless of his wealth, that is not a comment on American women. Based upon his essay, one could safely assume that he also hasn’t found a Columbian woman who loves him for just him, without his money.
Next, it was difficult to discern whether he just hates ALL "Gringos", or just the asshole Gringos, or if he just thinks that ALL Gringos are assholes, but once you saw through the veneer of his translucent altruism, you see an angry old man working hard to justify that anger. I agree that many sex tourists, some of whom are American, are assholes. Certainly this forum has posts from many of them. But when I’m punting in places where there are other Americans, most of those I meet are fine people who treat the girls with respect. I have been told by providers in many, many countries around the world that American clients are generally the NICEST and MOST RESPECTFUL clients; that they’re almost always the most GRATEFUL, and the general feeling is that, besides American culture, this is the case because of how difficult it is for a middle-aged man to get laid in the U. S. I’m not making this up, and I have heard this from working girls in at least 18 different countries. And yet, if you read Jack’s post, his animosity and invective against his "fellow" Americans is vicious, born out of something far deeper than just the simple embarrassments he describes. Okay, so Jack gives extra money to girls who are honest and who treat him well. So what? So do I, and so do a lot of Americans. We are, in fact, known for doing this throughout the world.
And now, we get to Jack himself. Okay, so he’s relocated to Columbia, a place where we ALL know a lot of Americans are afraid to come to (and which must be very, very far away from his "children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren"). So far away from them that he 1. Reduces them to nothing more than "Surfer Dudes" and "Paris Hilton Wannabe’s", which speaks volumes about his relationship with them (or lack thereof) and his feeble attempts to create relationships with them, and 2. Gleefully (I mean it, actually GLEEFULLY) relates how he’s planning on punishing them after he dies by not leaving them any money. So, what does this say about this kind of man? Isn’t it true that, by extension, if some of them WERE coming to visit him, he theoretically WOULD leave those that visited him money? In which case, wouldn’t he in fact be PAYING them also to be there for him? I think we see a pattern here. He certainly has the money to visit them, to get to know them beyond just calling them "Surfer Dudes" and "Paris Hilton Wannabes", but he insists on them visiting him, and those that haven’t, don’t get paid, when all is said and done. Jack, I don’t think you have a clue how a real family works. What would your wife have said about your choices, not just regarding your lifestyle (and the various people you have looking out for beautiful, poor, 18 year old girls for you to have sex with), but your animosity and obvious rejection of her grandchildren and great-grandchildren. I mean, do you really think that you’re a model for a grandparent?
Even that story about the Gringo who was walking in public with the Columbian girl who was dressed like a tart, and how embarrassed you were that a Gringo would be seen in public with such a woman. So, where’s your sensitivity towards THAT girl? I mean, here was a guy who treated her like a person; walking in public with her, when all the people you were with looked at her with disdain and spoke about her like she was an animal. Even YOU referred to her as "some dark black wildebeest of a woman", again, as if she was an animal. Shame on you! The hypocrisy is so thick I can’t stand it.
It’s very, very easy to be kind and generous when you’re wealthy, and the object of your affection is a beautiful, willing, and grateful 18 year old girl. Wow, I’m so impressed with how nice you can be. But the measure of a person is taken much more meaningfully from seeing how they treat their FAMILY, whose affection they should EARN, not PAY FOR. You should get on a plane and go spend some quality time with the Surfer Dudes and Paris Hilton Wannabes before it’s too late. And by the way, Surfer Dudes and yes, even Paris Hilton, have people who love them, and who they also love. You surround yourself with people who depend upon you for money, who are, in effect, employees, and tell yourself how great and sincere they are. Perhaps you’re just not comfortable being with people who don’t need your money, and are not willing to act as though they like you for that money. If your grandchildren and great-grandchildren only wanted your money, wouldn’t they be visiting you?
In any case, your viewpoint is terribly and unfortunately twisted beyond recognition. Yes, you correctly point out a number of things that are true. Some sex tourists are assholes, and some of those are American; the girls should all be treated with respect; one should not refuse to pay them a fair price simply because they’re desperate, and so on. These are fair and reasonable assertions that all good people can agree with. But your anger (and frankly, distinct LACK of respect and cold-heartedness towards American women, American men, your family, and others), betrays a hypocrisy the depth of which is far deeper than those other, fairly mundane observations.
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[QUOTE=Tom Cruze]Here, we have to accept the fact that some mongers will fuck anything. Really, I'm not flaming anyone, but many of the pics of chicas posted I wouldn't even consider a blow job from and some of them are major league unattractive. But to each his own, those guys think their chicas are 7, 8, and 9s and for me they are zeroes. Whatever.
I'm totally into high end model type chicas but I can usually find great quality at $200-$300 USD. I'd pay $500+ for a hot model type chica but haven't found a source yet that delivers the goods and no just over-priced cute chick. Send me a PM if you can hook me up![/QUOTE]For the day. The hour would even be a bit much for me. Purely on priciple.
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uncle jack posts are useless
I've been reading up on Colombia for the past few days, researching for my upcoming trip. I really enjoy some of the information that is available here. However, I did not agree with what Uncle Jack has posted!
For all of jack's "philantrophy, " the facts are that he abandoned his family, pays for companionship (as opposed to just f--king).
Now, I agree that loud, obnoxious people are the worst. However, I think most of the people on this board go to destinations for vacation, not charity work. Uncle jack, don't impose your flawed moral values upon the majority of mongers here.
Moreover, my opinion is that a small sample of outlandish gringos does not give an unfair impression of all foreigners. In fact, people that would hold onto these type of stereotypes are the worst of all. Why would I even want to associate with those such prejudices'?
In short, people are entitled to behave in any which way they want, they need to deal with the consequences. Uncle Jack's is clinging to those that will listen to him because he has no money.
Well, 1 more month, and I will be in Medellin. And no, I don't plan on making a fool of myself, just gonna try to enjoy whatever Medellin offers.
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Request for Uncle Jack
Jack,
If you're still out there reading this forum, I humbly urge you to look up the story of Omayra Sanchez. Maybe you know it already, but if not you can ask any of the locals or look it up on the internet.
I won't write up the whole tragedy but this goes back to the volcanic eruption in 1985 that destroyed the town of Armero killing over 20,000 people, Omayra being one of them. The Omayra story gripped the nation and the world, because of a very famous picture and a heartrending video clip of her, relaying a message to her mother while trapped in the wreckage of her home. This 13 year old girl died after 3 days trapped in the mud, as there was not enough resources nearby to try to save her.
Jack, if you really are wealthy and do philanthropy, I hope you consider doing something in her memory, like a scholarship program.
A real memorial to her and the other victims of Armero would be ideal but I'd imagine the politics and bureaucracy would probably make it impossible.
In any case, take care and good luck! Now back to the mongering. . . :)
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The big spenders
There is a cliche that goes something to the effect, those that have it, do not flaunt it, and it is my experience that those that have it are to tight to spend it, but here on the forum you can be whatever you want to be.
I am very happy with the fact that my conversation gets the girl, not the offering of the house, car, and airplane. It is just hilarious how all you big spenders have come out of no where to brag about being such great providers to these girls. What a fucking joke, but if you can live in the fantasy world of the rich while sitting behind your computer screen so be it. At least I know I LIVE IN REALITY, and do not have to be someone I AM NOT!
I am sure you big spenders are the same people on the ISG who do not spend the twenty dollars to become a paid member on the ISG, or leave a 10, 000 peso tip for a waiter on a 100, 000 pesos dinner, or do not leave a tip for a maid for cleaning your hotel room or apartment, and the same goes for the waiters and waitresses that serve you your drinks.
[QUOTE=Tom Cruze]Here, we have to accept the fact that some mongers will fuck anything. Really, I'm not flaming anyone, but many of the pics of chicas posted I wouldn't even consider a blow job from and some of them are major league unattractive. But to each his own, those guys think their chicas are 7, 8, and 9s and for me they are zeroes. Whatever.
I'm totally into high end model type chicas but I can usually find great quality at $200-$300 USD. I'd pay $500+ for a hot model type chica but haven't found a source yet that delivers the goods and no just over-priced cute chick. Send me a PM if you can hook me up![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]The poor girls from the ghetto have a ruff life. This often results in them acting too hungry and trying to just grab what they can. However, at the same time some of them have hearts of gold and really appreciate your help. This is why I am so bitter towards these ******* scum Americans who I see trying to talk down a girl $5 because they think it is cool. You guys are the lowest of the low and I would love to see some of you start getting what you deserve.[/QUOTE]I agree that one should not try to bargain too hard with poor girls who desperately need money. It is clearly not ethical.
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]You clowns are an embarrassment for us all. Learn to pay these girls all that you can afford so you set a high standard for gringos. You assholes who cannot afford what the Colombians are paying should stay at home rather than bring shame on us all.[/QUOTE]I totally disagree with what you say here about the necessity of paying high prices to have sex with the most beautiful high class girls like Colombians do.
Why would you do that?
These girls are not poor. Some very old people even give them 2'000 USD a month.
If I can seduce and sleep with a very beautiful girl who likes me and who does not really need money (more than me), fair enough, I'll do it, whether in Colombia or anywhere else in the world. I make no excuse for not being as rich as some 80 year old guy, and I don't view all girls as prostitutes. Even the (high class) prostitutes sometimes want to have a BFE (Boyfriend Experience.
PS I am not American and I have never been to Medellin but I was thinking of going there. Now that I know the place is full of Americans who speak loud about their mongering activities in public places, I will not go.
Which is actually a good thing for Uncle Jack because I really enjoy to sleep with non married rich beautiful girls whose money is provided by some other guy.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]What I am talking about here is RESPECT not how much you guys are actually paying.
I really got to wonder about these people. It just blows my mind that people like these clowns actually exist. You were born in the richest most powerful nation on earth yet are so low that you take pride in talking an impoverished girl down $5. 00.[/QUOTE]This amazes me anywhere in the world. These are the same guys who wont blink an eye about buying a $100 bottle of water at Mansion in miami beach or $50 for a non touching lapdance at scores in NYC. It boggles my mind the way people beat down chicas but wont make AIR complaint to the chick in mangos charging you $400,000 for a bottle of buchanans.
I had a rich friend who was seriously rich(Ferraris, Lamborginis, $11 million manison in Miami) and he agreed on a price with a chick of like $50 and then the chick falls asleep in the motel and he leaves her without paying. This boggled my mind. The kid thought it was funny.
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Thank you, Trippstadt
You said what I was thinking only you did it so much more eloquently.
I agree that there are some real low-lifes and scumbags in the world and some are Americans that visit Colombia. I too am saddened and embarrassed by a few of them.
But I still have a few issues with our new friend, Uncle Jack. For brevity I'll only post these two.
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack] The guy who found her said she had just turned 18, was absolutely beautiful but dirt poor. I have several people who look for these types of girls for me all over Medellin.[/QUOTE]This is pretty sad. I'm 54 and not only do I not have people pimping for me but I seldom spend time with "girls" under 21. I also don't go to Mayorista or pick up streetwalkers and I've never had a girl complain about the money I paid her after dinner, dancing and spending the night.
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack] A gringo walks by with some dark black wildebeest of a woman with her breasts hanging out and her shorts shoved up her ass. Almost everyone at my table started laughing and pointing this out. I noticed that other Colombians at other tables were pointing this out as well. I was so embarrassed to be an American at that moment I felt like walking over and whacking this idiot over the head with my cane. [/QUOTE]Here's a flash for you, not all gringos are Americans so I suggest get some facts before you start lumping all of us into this small subset you despise so much.
I first visited Colombia in 1999. I was married to a Colombian lady. We are divorced but still very good friends. In fact she called me just today to see how I was doing. Her father has told me on many occasions (since the divorce) that "my house is your house and you are always welcome there."
So you see, Uncle Warbucks, we may not all be a rich former big shot like you but we're still good people and we still treat others with respect and we still respect the people in the countries we visit.
Save your rath and disdain for the handful who need it and not everyone who visits Medellin and happens to be from America.
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[QUOTE=Trippstadt]I began reading Uncle Jack’s thesis with a sympathetic eye. I liked his subject ("It’s All About Respect") and I also treat all the girls, in fact, all people, with the type of courtesy and respect he described.
However, as I continued to read, I began to realize a number of things that concerned me.
First and foremost, his assertions regarding American women are outrageous and just plain wrong. Perhaps he, when he lived in the States, moved in certain circles because of his "station" where such women ("Gold Diggers") are prevalent, and he was just unable to branch out and get involved in groups where more "normal" American women are present. But in any case, his general characterization of American women as "conniving cold hearted and ruthless", in his words, is again, outrageous and just plain wrong Every day I work with dozens of American women, I know all the soccer moms from my sons’ teams, the ladies in my neighborhood, the volunteers at the free clinic where I am also a volunteer, my kids’ teachers and their friends’ moms, and many others, and I can’t think of a single one who I would classify as a Gold Digger. In fact, in all my 50 years, I’ve probably only met a handful, out of all the thousands of American women I’ve known, who might be characterized as such. Truly, I would be willing to assert, in the strongest possible terms, that 99% of the women to whom I just referred could not be purchased for sexual activity like the Columbian prostitutes with hearts of gold who Jack plays with. Perhaps that’s one of his issues with American women, that he couldn’t just throw them a few hundred dollars to have sex with him, or not, but regardless, American women are people too, with feelings every bit as deep and complex as the 18 year old Columbian girls selling their bodies to Jack, and if he could not find one, after his wife passed, who loved him for him regardless of his wealth, that is not a comment on American women. Based upon his essay, one could safely assume that he also hasn’t found a Columbian woman who loves him for just him, without his money.
Next, it was difficult to discern whether he just hates ALL "Gringos", or just the asshole Gringos, or if he just thinks that ALL Gringos are assholes, but once you saw through the veneer of his translucent altruism, you see an angry old man working hard to justify that anger. I agree that many sex tourists, some of whom are American, are assholes. Certainly this forum has posts from many of them. But when I’m punting in places where there are other Americans, most of those I meet are fine people who treat the girls with respect. I have been told by providers in many, many countries around the world that American clients are generally the NICEST and MOST RESPECTFUL clients; that they’re almost always the most GRATEFUL, and the general feeling is that, besides American culture, this is the case because of how difficult it is for a middle-aged man to get laid in the U. S. I’m not making this up, and I have heard this from working girls in at least 18 different countries. And yet, if you read Jack’s post, his animosity and invective against his "fellow" Americans is vicious, born out of something far deeper than just the simple embarrassments he describes. Okay, so Jack gives extra money to girls who are honest and who treat him well. So what? So do I, and so do a lot of Americans. We are, in fact, known for doing this throughout the world.
And now, we get to Jack himself. Okay, so he’s relocated to Columbia, a place where we ALL know a lot of Americans are afraid to come to (and which must be very, very far away from his "children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren"). So far away from them that he 1. Reduces them to nothing more than "Surfer Dudes" and "Paris Hilton Wannabe’s", which speaks volumes about his relationship with them (or lack thereof) and his feeble attempts to create relationships with them, and 2. Gleefully (I mean it, actually GLEEFULLY) relates how he’s planning on punishing them after he dies by not leaving them any money. So, what does this say about this kind of man? Isn’t it true that, by extension, if some of them WERE coming to visit him, he theoretically WOULD leave those that visited him money? In which case, wouldn’t he in fact be PAYING them also to be there for him? I think we see a pattern here. He certainly has the money to visit them, to get to know them beyond just calling them "Surfer Dudes" and "Paris Hilton Wannabes", but he insists on them visiting him, and those that haven’t, don’t get paid, when all is said and done. Jack, I don’t think you have a clue how a real family works. What would your wife have said about your choices, not just regarding your lifestyle (and the various people you have looking out for beautiful, poor, 18 year old girls for you to have sex with), but your animosity and obvious rejection of her grandchildren and great-grandchildren. I mean, do you really think that you’re a model for a grandparent?
Even that story about the Gringo who was walking in public with the Columbian girl who was dressed like a tart, and how embarrassed you were that a Gringo would be seen in public with such a woman. So, where’s your sensitivity towards THAT girl? I mean, here was a guy who treated her like a person; walking in public with her, when all the people you were with looked at her with disdain and spoke about her like she was an animal. Even YOU referred to her as "some dark black wildebeest of a woman", again, as if she was an animal. Shame on you! The hypocrisy is so thick I can’t stand it.
It’s very, very easy to be kind and generous when you’re wealthy, and the object of your affection is a beautiful, willing, and grateful 18 year old girl. Wow, I’m so impressed with how nice you can be. But the measure of a person is taken much more meaningfully from seeing how they treat their FAMILY, whose affection they should EARN, not PAY FOR. You should get on a plane and go spend some quality time with the Surfer Dudes and Paris Hilton Wannabes before it’s too late. And by the way, Surfer Dudes and yes, even Paris Hilton, have people who love them, and who they also love. You surround yourself with people who depend upon you for money, who are, in effect, employees, and tell yourself how great and sincere they are. Perhaps you’re just not comfortable being with people who don’t need your money, and are not willing to act as though they like you for that money. If your grandchildren and great-grandchildren only wanted your money, wouldn’t they be visiting you?
In any case, your viewpoint is terribly and unfortunately twisted beyond recognition. Yes, you correctly point out a number of things that are true. Some sex tourists are assholes, and some of those are American; the girls should all be treated with respect; one should not refuse to pay them a fair price simply because they’re desperate, and so on. These are fair and reasonable assertions that all good people can agree with. But your anger (and frankly, distinct LACK of respect and cold-heartedness towards American women, American men, your family, and others), betrays a hypocrisy the depth of which is far deeper than those other, fairly mundane observations.[/QUOTE]Nice post amigo. You write very well.
Though I believe Jack means well, like you say, he is definitely jaded. Obvious.
The funny thing is, I'm in Brazil (Sao Paulo) at the moment, just had a great time in a daytime place here where guys pay for love
All the girls were happy to see an American guy (me), they always tell me how much they dig the American guy. Muito simpatico (we are known as being very nice in general). That goes all over the Americas.
Of course there's the bad apple. That goes for every nationality. Again obvious.
As for American girls, well I hold nothing against them per se, it's more the culture of the west that doesn't agree with me.
I've been visiting, living, traveling throughout central and south America for more than 15 years now. And it's like being in a different universe here.
Bottom line is, I don't care if you're paying Uncle Jack prices to the chicas, or the going rate, if you treat them like a person, nicely. It just pays off. It's so simple. It's countless the number of times chicas have become my friends and I've gotten love from them for free (because they wouldn't take my money) or for whatever I felt like helping them with.
Of course if the chica is a bad apple. And of course they're out there too. You can respectfully and tactfully deal with them too without being an ass.
I'll be back in Medellin at the end of the month. What do you guys think? How about a big party at Uncle Jack's
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Trippstadt - nicely said!
[QUOTE=Trippstadt]In any case, your viewpoint is terribly and unfortunately twisted beyond recognition. Yes, you correctly point out a number of things that are true. Some sex tourists are assholes, and some of those are American; the girls should all be treated with respect; one should not refuse to pay them a fair price simply because they’re desperate, and so on. These are fair and reasonable assertions that all good people can agree with. But your anger (and frankly, distinct LACK of respect and cold-heartedness towards American women, American men, your family, and others), betrays a hypocrisy the depth of which is far deeper than those other, fairly mundane observations.[/QUOTE]I too starting reading Uncle Jack's reports with open eyes. I am a North American male that has traveled to Colombia for business and also for pleasure. I am not a low life, like Jack likes to call us, but IMHO, a decent guy with a kind heart. Colombia is probably the most beautiful country that I have traveled to and has some pretty friendly people. There are some assholes also (in all the countries of the world) but even though, you should not stereotype the whole lot. I too have been an "ugly" American but that is my last resort when someone is trying to get over on me. Anyone would be "ugly" when someone is trying to take away your resources without something in return. (we all don't have money to burn like Jack does). I would rather say up front are looking for a gift than to have someone say one thing and then do another just to get your money. A person's word (or integrity) is the most important character trait (IMHO).
I was wondering if any of the members were going to object to what Uncle Jack was saying and I am glad someone did. I am sure that Trippstadt did not do it out of disrespect of Jack. It needed to be said because he, IMHO, was being two-faced. Saying how he loved to help out the poor and how he hated gold-diggers. What do you call the $2000 per month students? Wouldn't they be classified as gold-diggers or do you think they date men from lower levels of society? It is all about the money and nothing else. That is the first rule of gold-digging. Only target the rich.
Best of luck to all and especially Trippstadt for his balls to say what needed to be said.
Uncle Jack. I hope your golden years are filled with happiness! (and I hope you realize that once you are gone, you can not come back and reconcile with your family. Be the man that I am sure your family knows you are and take the first step.)
Enjoy the life!
$Bill
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Commanders Intent: To screw cutties
Shit I forget the 5 pragrap oporder o well heres some pics, enjoy.
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As the Screw Turns
This trip is winding down and I must return to sea, however port of call is Curaco, so "happy village" awaits thats what we call the campo!
I have some horrible news, in my travels of Medellin I have discovered a Lap Dance bar, this nasty places offers table top dances for 20K and private VIP dances for 30K, a dance is 2 songs, although drinks are cheap 5K beers, but on my last vist it was 7K, many of the girls from S. D. Are there including tight ass nicole. Now I hope all of you are sitting down for this becuase I couldn't belive this part my self. Anywaz during my first vist there I ran into a tall dark hiar girl big tits, curve ect. The way I like it anywaz I nodded to her she came over started to chit chat ect. Well apparently I already screwed her becuase she knew my name where I lived ect. We had met at S. D. Over a year ago, and I took her to my place. Well now she just dances no more "fuckie fuckie" I said I don't belive you, and she said she makes enough money just dancing, well I still didn't belive her untill I saw her do 4 table dances in a few hours! She earn her 80K with out sex, and on Friday in 1 hour I saw her do 3. At S. D. A girl needs to screw one customer to make 70-80K now they just do lap dances! I told her I would rather DIE then pay her for just a "hard on". Good news is not all the girls do that many table top dances it seemed like just the very pretty ones. But I think this trend will contiune not to our benfit. What the colombian men do is while drinking their bottle of booz the 4-5 of them will split a lap dance amongst the table, I saw it happen multiple times, in fact I never saw a one on one table top dances only groups, this colombians can afford
Imagine this a Colombia where the hottest girls, give you a hard on while taking your money, teasing you with their hot bodies and pretty faces, only to leave you to yourself at the end of the night and screw their stupid boy toys. You could probly still sleep with her but like all american strippers the price will go up! I mean youll be offering 200K 300K 400K, godforbid if the trend spreads to S. D. Or F2, dear god! I won't disclose the location of name of this place becuase frankly too many gringos would vist the place and it would be like pooring gasoline on a wild fire. Newbies giving 20K for lap dances thinking about what a great deal they are getting, I am sorry its for your own good! Things are chaing in Medellin!
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Nice pics
[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Commanders Intent: To screw cutties
Shit I forget the 5 pragrap oporder o well heres some pics, enjoy.[/QUOTE]Where did you find that nice looking Colombiana?
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Panorama
What ever happened to the late night strip club, Panorama?
I can remember closing down La Isla, then heading down the hill to this place. No idea where it was... San Juan? Centro?
La Isla is closed now. I guess Panorama closed too, maybe someone can tell me for sure?
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More about my trip
Sunday was the pool party but I started the day off at 9am with my two massage chicas, followed by a Centro Run. The Casa have been off the hook this trip. There were about 20 chicas at the pool party and I arranged a session with her and we went for a ride to see where she lives afterwards. I was done with her but the Plumber had interest so I told her to come back on Monday for him. I have about 300 more pictures.
We choose two and had a session in the Jaccuzzi in El Polmero's room.
Sunday night we hit mayorista and the streets of San Diego but it was quiet as expected.
Monday was a banner day. Started off with my 9am massage and then 5 of us went to Centro to hit the same 7 casas which pretty much have at least 1 or 2 that I myself want. I choose Kamasutra again and had a 3 some for 45, 000 and Camilla was included one again.
The six o clock chicas showed up as planned and we hit the Jaccuzzi for a session before grabbing a bit at the restaurant complex around the corner from the mansion. Polmero wanted to eat the chica out so we chanted him on and his chica allowed it in front of us. When he was done I tossed my chica in there and he went to town on her.
So far I have been to Park llaras, Ovierdo mall, El Tesero Mall and Laurales to hang out and eat. There is so much here. I have decided to just keep those 8 or 9 casa in my rotation.
I have about 30 minutes of video from various events to figure out how to load.
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[QUOTE=Phunluv]That's what I've been trying to say here for awhile but no one believes me. I've been to some amazing fincas for the weekend with some affluent Colombians I know, these guys would never even think about looking for 40K COP chicas in centro or mayorista, that's the lowest of the low for them! :).[/QUOTE]The Centro houses are the lowest of the low for a lot of locals not just the rich and I'll tell you why. The girls - no matter how beautiful - and many are - are trash. Just imagine some US woman from the deep redneck woods who is missing a tooth, is loud, uneducated. Walking down the street with her screams "I'm with an uneducated trailor trash 2 bit hooker".
Now I know the girls in Centro aren't missing a tooth, but when you are from here and you speak the language that beautiful girl suddenly becomes ugly when she talks like "Boyz From the Hood".
You foreigners don't get this becuase you can't tell the difference - your spanish sucks, you are not from here and to you she is "just another girl, what's the problem?"
Some guys' dicks get limp when in the presence of a trailor trash chick in one of these casas - don't even need to be on the street embarrased. But if you are, the whole world knows you are with a cheap, low class hooker.
This is why many local mongers go to exclusive clubs and grab chicks that are are educated and speak/present themselves well and accompany these guys to where ever and everyone on the street thinks they are a couple. Image is very important in Colombia.
You gringos walking down the street with your estrato 2 ho from Bell Suite or New Life think that just because she's not flashing tits that no one knows the deal.
There are houses in Sabaneta, Envigado and Poblado that don't advertise at all. This is where the creme de la creme work and the rich in Colombia have no problem paying 300K,500K, and over 1 millone for high quality girl they can talk to who is going to rock their world on the street and in the cama.
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[QUOTE=Dude55]Is it ethical to screw multiple hoards of girls, including hookers?[/QUOTE]Is this a philosophy question? If so, my answer is yes. Tell me why according to your wv it isn't.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Jack] since she made me smile I put a million pesos in an envelope and put it in her purse as she was leaving. She said thanks and left.
The most amazing thing happened about 5 minutes later which is why I am telling this story. She actually came back with the envelope to tell me I made a mistake. She thought I had handed her the wrong envelope and did not want me to think she had stole from me. I gave her another million for her honesty.
I told her then and there to never sell herself to any gringo except me.[/QUOTE]Hahahhahaha. That's some funny stuff!
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Any pics of the last pool party?
Any pics of the last pool party?
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Whoa, again
I don't understand how this is a problem? Its kinda what makes Colombia great for Americans, or maybe just smart guys who see beauty and don't judge. Now I will admit, becuase I do speak spanish, its not the accent but the conversations you have with some of these girls, for intance the chica I had last night, dumb as a brick! She asked me where exactly Colombia is on map, and didn't even know how many people live in her country. A sweet girl good service but dumb! She coming over again tonight!
Back to my point, I think colombians are very judgmental, kinda hypocritical these are the guys whom call girls "putas" and them secretly call them for service. "It is what it is" and I will agree with you becuase what you say is true, but its BULL PERIOD. And its the oppertunity for "gringos" to date, and sleep with totaly hot women of this lower economic and social class.
I judge women on physical apperance, personality, style, common sense, and intrest in me. I don't care where she lives or if she is as dumb as a brick, if shes nice cute and great in bed, its the "high class" colombians loss and my gain!
With that said, please stop boasting of these great places or "call girls" beyond our reach, actually I have pretty damn good reach so show some pics or provided some details or warning, or something usefull.
Thanks
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]The Centro houses are the lowest of the low for a lot of locals not just the rich and I'll tell you why. The girls - no matter how beautiful - and many are - are trash. Just imagine some US woman from the deep redneck woods who is missing a tooth, is loud, uneducated. Walking down the street with her screams "I'm with an uneducated trailor trash 2 bit hooker".
Now I know the girls in Centro aren't missing a tooth, but when you are from here and you speak the language that beautiful girl suddenly becomes ugly when she talks like "Boyz From the Hood".
You foreigners don't get this becuase you can't tell the difference - your spanish sucks, you are not from here and to you she is "just another girl, what's the problem?"
Some guys' dicks get limp when in the presence of a trailor trash chick in one of these casas - don't even need to be on the street embarrased. But if you are, the whole world knows you are with a cheap, low class hooker.
This is why many local mongers go to exclusive clubs and grab chicks that are are educated and speak/present themselves well and accompany these guys to where ever and everyone on the street thinks they are a couple. Image is very important in Colombia.
You gringos walking down the street with your estrato 2 ho from Bell Suite or New Life think that just because she's not flashing tits that no one knows the deal.
There are houses in Sabaneta, Envigado and Poblado that don't advertise at all. This is where the creme de la creme work and the rich in Colombia have no problem paying 300K,500K, and over 1 millone for high quality girl they can talk to who is going to rock their world on the street and in the cama.
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[QUOTE=Cubanut]It actually did bring to mind something I had not thought about before though and that is that I have never taken a prostitute out to eat to Parque Lleras or any place else to eat or even date for that matter. I do go with good friends and new friends (gents) that I meet in Medellin however. But judging from what Uncle Jack and so many others have said about rich guys and average guys taking their conquests to Parque Lleras for dinner, I may stop going out to Parque Lleras as well. I mean I'd rather not be surrounded by prostitutes and their Johns while eating. After all there is a time and a place for everything.[/QUOTE]Heya Cuba. You know we're amigos but I don't get this at all.
What does it matter if you take a working chica to eat? Parque Lleras or wherever.
What does it matter if they are they are dining near you with their friends?
Big deal really.
Take care.
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[QUOTE=Trippstadt]It’s very, very easy to be kind and generous when you’re wealthy, and the object of your affection is a beautiful, willing, and grateful 18 year old girl. Wow, I’m so impressed with how nice you can be. But the measure of a person is taken much more meaningfully from seeing how they treat their FAMILY, whose affection they should EARN, not PAY FOR. Perhaps you’re just not comfortable being with people who don’t need your money, and are not willing to act as though they like you for that money. If your grandchildren and great-grandchildren only wanted your money, wouldn’t they be visiting you?
In any case, your viewpoint is terribly and unfortunately twisted beyond recognition. Yes, you correctly point out a number of things that are true. Some sex tourists are assholes, and some of those are American; the girls should all be treated with respect; one should not refuse to pay them a fair price simply because they’re desperate, and so on. These are fair and reasonable assertions that all good people can agree with. But your anger (and frankly, distinct LACK of respect and cold-heartedness towards American women, American men, your family, and others), betrays a hypocrisy the depth of which is far deeper than those other, fairly mundane observations.[/QUOTE]Wow. Tripp I couldn't agree with you more. But really out of respect I wouldn't have posted this. Uncle Jack seems like a very observant person so obviously he is already aware of the obvious. Honestly, I would give him a free pass to rant, rave and make hypocritical comments as long as he wants.
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After years of reading this forum I finally have to jump in after reading Jack’s comments and the responses his wisdom generated.
Jack, if I ever meet you I would like to shake your hand for having the balls (or perhaps the cane) to say how things really are. Anyone who thinks a "wh0re is a wh0re" or a "pussy is a pussy" just knows the low end of the scale and not the high end.
I work for a large American investment firm and get a whopping two whole vacations a year. When I travel I travel in style. My company has no problem putting me up in $3000 a night suites when we go on business trips. I expect quality and I will pay for it,.as simple as that. Cash is king in any country in the world.
These girls are not with us for any other reason than cash. The guys on here who talk about the free pussy they once got are either lying or were being played by a smart girl. I have seen these girls push the "off" button on so many guys’ brains that it is incredible. Sure she did not ask for 100, 000 pesos but you took her shopping right? I already know some guy is going to jump in here to claim he gets them all for free so before it is posted I will make my response which is "Suuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre you do! " LOL! By the way if you guys are such studs with unlimited free pussy why do you read this forum? Maybe you should start your own web site called the "International Free Pussy Guide". It would probably eventually get 5 or 6 members.
When I was last in Medellin I rented a Poblado mansion for a week at a price of $1000 a day. The price included a full staff to wait on me hand and foot. I sat all day by the pool being served wine while at least two girls rubbed my feet and fed me cheese. I do not think at any one time I had less than 2 girls in the house in addition to the staff. I was giving these girls nice shinny $100 bills any time they asked. Who cares if I spend $1000 or $2000 a day on girls? It is my money, I made it and I will spend it how I please.
I owner of the house gave me a few phone numbers of his private stock before he left. I told each girl that for every pretty amiga that showed up I would give her $20 and the amiga got $100. There were girls coming to the property all day and all night. A couple of the girls even turned out to be students. I brought in $9990 USD in cash and it was all gone long before I left.
I also hired a private English speaking driver who carried a gun. We went all over the nice parts of Medellin, Rionegra, Sabaneta, Evigato and even a one night trip to Santa Fe with a couple of babes. I saw all there was to offer.
But again, who cares how I spend my money? I had the time of my life. I got to spend a week living like Pablo and it cost me around $20K. How many guys can say that? I spent about $3000 a day on average. That same amount of money would get me ONE single high class escort in the United States. In Medellin that same amount of money got me a mansion, armed guard, full time staff, a lot of site seeing, and SEVERAL girls a day. Plus I found these girls more fun than the typical $3000 a day American escort.
On my next trip I am bringing 5 friends. When by buddies saw what I did they were drooling in envy. We are the types of guys who compete with each other by buying the best Rolexes and exotic cars. It use to be that whoever dies with the most toys wins. Now it has changed to whomever dies knowing the most pussy wins. When my buddies saw the photos of my girls they knew they were going to lose so we are making a group trip. I am sure Jack has us all beat but we are going to try to do our best at spending a lot of money because we want quality.
I really want to see the price of girls go up since it will help eliminate the poor guys. When I am in Black in Argentina I always see guys with class. The ones Jack euphorically calls scum are never in Black since they cannot afford a drink there let alone one of the girls. It is exactly the same as paying $100, 000 a year to join a private golf course. Not only is the grass greener but you are surrounded with guys who also have an extra $100, 000 which makes everything better.
People are really starting to explore Medellin these days. More and more gringos are living there and there is a lot of chat about investment. In fact the last time I was in Black almost everyone was talking about exploring Medellin. So, like it or not, the high end players are coming. If that means some of the poor guys will be pushed out, then all I can say is "too bad".
All this being said there are still a wide variety of girls and price ranges for everyone. I took a trip to Central and Majorista to see what all the talk was about. There were plenty of girls still in the $20 price range as far as I could tell. I even saw a group of gringos lurking around in the shadows trying to solicit these girls.
However, there is no way I am going to consider having sex with Majorista girls. First, almost none looked old enough. Second, there were very few that I would consider even cute. And third, many looked like they were addicted to something. My driver/bodyguard said it was not uncommon for them to be on glue. I was curious to see these places but after about 15 minutes I had saw all I needed to see. You can find a $20 drug addict in the United States with the same quality as a Majorista drug addict so why travel?
The simple fact of the matter is if these Majorista girls did not have some problem then they would be at a better place making a lot more money. That is how economics works. If they were good enough to make 150, 000 pesos at the Australian place then they would not be working for 50, 000 at Majorista. If there were good enough to get 500, 000 from a Colombian man then they would not be working at the Australian place.
I will be back in July for a week. If there are any real players out there who would like to hook up then send me a PM. Jack.good luck on everything. You Sir are a role model for us all. Do not let the other gringos make you so angry. Just remember you are getting what they cannot afford and will never know.
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[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]The Centro houses are the lowest of the low for a lot of locals not just the rich and I'll tell you why. The girls - no matter how beautiful - and many are - are trash. Just imagine some US woman from the deep redneck woods who is missing a tooth, is loud, uneducated. Walking down the street with her screams "I'm with an uneducated trailor trash 2 bit hooker".[/QUOTE]I hear you. I only got to check out New Life once, but quite frankly I was disappointed especially since a lot of guys here rave about the place. Maybe it was just a bad day?
Anyway, the way one girl introduced herself was definitely like she was an estrato 0! I kind of felt sorry for her and some of the other girls, not their fault they live in that kind of environment. I chose one of the girls in the lineup just for the heck of it, but her body turned out not to be all that and even putting that aside, the whole vibe of the place doesn't do it for me, not really an erotic experience.
Still if you're looking for a quickie on the budget tip, I guess it's a good option although this opinion is based on just my first impression.
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[QUOTE=Jeckleman]After years of reading this forum I finally have to jump in after reading Jack’s comments and the responses his wisdom generated.
Jack, if I ever meet you I would like to shake your hand for having the balls (or perhaps the cane) to say how things really are. Anyone who thinks a "wh0re is a wh0re" or a "pussy is a pussy" just knows the low end of the scale and not the high end.
I work for a large American investment firm and get a whopping two whole vacations a year. When I travel I travel in style. My company has no problem putting me up in $3000 a night suites when we go on business trips. I expect quality and I will pay for it,.as simple as that. Cash is king in any country in the world.
These girls are not with us for any other reason than cash. The guys on here who talk about the free pussy they once got are either lying or were being played by a smart girl. I have seen these girls push the "off" button on so many guys’ brains that it is incredible. Sure she did not ask for 100, 000 pesos but you took her shopping right? I already know some guy is going to jump in here to claim he gets them all for free so before it is posted I will make my response which is "Suuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre you do! " LOL! By the way if you guys are such studs with unlimited free pussy why do you read this forum? Maybe you should start your own web site called the "International Free Pussy Guide". It would probably eventually get 5 or 6 members.
When I was last in Medellin I rented a Poblado mansion for a week at a price of $1000 a day. The price included a full staff to wait on me hand and foot. I sat all day by the pool being served wine while at least two girls rubbed my feet and fed me cheese. I do not think at any one time I had less than 2 girls in the house in addition to the staff. I was giving these girls nice shinny $100 bills any time they asked. Who cares if I spend $1000 or $2000 a day on girls? It is my money, I made it and I will spend it how I please.
I owner of the house gave me a few phone numbers of his private stock before he left. I told each girl that for every pretty amiga that showed up I would give her $20 and the amiga got $100. There were girls coming to the property all day and all night. A couple of the girls even turned out to be students. I brought in $9990 USD in cash and it was all gone long before I left.
I also hired a private English speaking driver who carried a gun. We went all over the nice parts of Medellin, Rionegra, Sabaneta, Evigato and even a one night trip to Santa Fe with a couple of babes. I saw all there was to offer.
But again, who cares how I spend my money? I had the time of my life. I got to spend a week living like Pablo and it cost me around $20K. How many guys can say that? I spent about $3000 a day on average. That same amount of money would get me ONE single high class escort in the United States. In Medellin that same amount of money got me a mansion, armed guard, full time staff, a lot of site seeing, and SEVERAL girls a day. Plus I found these girls more fun than the typical $3000 a day American escort.
On my next trip I am bringing 5 friends. When by buddies saw what I did they were drooling in envy. We are the types of guys who compete with each other by buying the best Rolexes and exotic cars. It use to be that whoever dies with the most toys wins. Now it has changed to whomever dies knowing the most pussy wins. When my buddies saw the photos of my girls they knew they were going to lose so we are making a group trip. I am sure Jack has us all beat but we are going to try to do our best at spending a lot of money because we want quality.
I really want to see the price of girls go up since it will help eliminate the poor guys. When I am in Black in Argentina I always see guys with class. The ones Jack euphorically calls scum are never in Black since they cannot afford a drink there let alone one of the girls. It is exactly the same as paying $100, 000 a year to join a private golf course. Not only is the grass greener but you are surrounded with guys who also have an extra $100, 000 which makes everything better.
People are really starting to explore Medellin these days. More and more gringos are living there and there is a lot of chat about investment. In fact the last time I was in Black almost everyone was talking about exploring Medellin. So, like it or not, the high end players are coming. If that means some of the poor guys will be pushed out, then all I can say is "too bad".
All this being said there are still a wide variety of girls and price ranges for everyone. I took a trip to Central and Majorista to see what all the talk was about. There were plenty of girls still in the $20 price range as far as I could tell. I even saw a group of gringos lurking around in the shadows trying to solicit these girls.
However, there is no way I am going to consider having sex with Majorista girls. First, almost none looked old enough. Second, there were very few that I would consider even cute. And third, many looked like they were addicted to something. My driver/bodyguard said it was not uncommon for them to be on glue. I was curious to see these places but after about 15 minutes I had saw all I needed to see. You can find a $20 drug addict in the United States with the same quality as a Majorista drug addict so why travel?
The simple fact of the matter is if these Majorista girls did not have some problem then they would be at a better place making a lot more money. That is how economics works. If they were good enough to make 150, 000 pesos at the Australian place then they would not be working for 50, 000 at Majorista. If there were good enough to get 500, 000 from a Colombian man then they would not be working at the Australian place.
I will be back in July for a week. If there are any real players out there who would like to hook up then send me a PM. Jack.good luck on everything. You Sir are a role model for us all. Do not let the other gringos make you so angry. Just remember you are getting what they cannot afford and will never know.
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We're both kind of in the same boat.- fortunately (un? I'm not totally sure yet), the recent east coast credit squeeze will give me the chance to spend six months traveling very soon.
MDE will be my home base, but I'll hop anywhere and everywhere (Colombia and other nearby cunts and countries). To counter one point you made, I often times get free chucha most places I travel too. Consider it having good game, decent looks, decent enough spanish abilities, a nice personality or a mix of all of those.- does it cost me in other ways? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. So why pay for it? Simply to avoid the hassles of having to deal with a girl getting attached and having to feel the guilt of hurting her.
Anyway, drop me a line whenever you get down to MDE. I'm sure by the time you are out there, I'll know every hot mami all throughout the city, and I love to share trophies to boot.
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Reading these posts about guys bragging about how much money they spent on a hooker and how Colombianos won't fuck a "low class" hooker, even if she is beautiful and a sweet person leads me to the conclusion that a lot of guys, both on this board, and probably everywhere, are banging hookers for reasons other than sex. It really seems as if some guys are trying to raise their self-esteem by talking about how high class their putas are and how much they cost. I really believe that some guys get off on act of spending a ton of money on pussy more than they do fucking the pussy. If that is what those guys need to feel good, and there are women that will service them, more power to them.
Others seem to be paying for companionship and someone to go out with more than for pussy. If you value being able to take your putas out on the town and have stimulating conversations with them over a candlelight dinner, I can understand why having a girl of a certain educational level would be good, much like guys who want girls that speak good English. Just don't come down on those of us who don't care if our puta is a university student or makes great conversation and is a good dancer. For us, a puta's BBBJ abilities greatly outweigh her ability to discuss the differences between the philosophical principles of Plato and Socrates. You are paying for companionship, we're just paying for sex. Both are O. K in my book. Different strokes for different folks.
The one thing I dislike about some Latin American cultures that I have been exposed to is the EXTREME class bias (and sometimes racism) in the culture. Sure there is class bias in the U. S. As well, but it is nowhere near as widespread and blatant as in Latin America. Colombia seems to have an extra dose of it, from what I can see.
Here, it seems that some people who claim to be "in the know" are actually criticizing those of us who are less experienced with Colombia for NOT adopting the class bias of native Colombianos. Why would we as visitors want to adopt one of the worst aspects of their culture (IMHO)?
I can see why taking girl dressed in hooker garb out for dinner to a Poblado restaurant would be inappropriate. But not wanting to be with a beautiful, sweet girl who is from a lower strata simply because she is "low class" isn't something that we should be striving for. Also, if I want to take a girl out to dinner afterward, and she is dressed decently (if not expensively), I'll do it, and fuck any Colombiano or gringo who doesn't like it. I don't give a shit what people in the U. S think, I certainly don't give a shit if some Colombianos think my date is low class.
Now, if she has a bad personality, or is so dumb that I can't hold a decent conversation with her, I'm not going to hang out with her. As I have said in previous posts, I pay for sex, not companionship. I would bet that 95-98%% of the putas I have banged, I never did anything with them besides sex. For that small 2-5% that I did hang out with and go to dinner with, I never paid them for that. We just hung out as friends, or after fucking and paying her, we were both hungry and decided to get something to eat together.
I'm not a Colombian. I'll never be a Colombian. Although I may be buying a place there as a second home next year, I have no desire to become a Colombian. Why in the world should I care what Colombians think of the prostitute I am fucking?
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[QUOTE=Mw1030]Any pics of the last pool party?[/QUOTE]I will put them up next week.
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So I have been hanging with a Cento casa Chica
So we have been together about 9 nights and she has a friend that works at Loutrons. One night two big spenders come in and they want the friend and another so she calls her friend from the casa and she gets 800,000 for the night. You don't really know where these chicas are working when you are not around.
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A chica recap
So I have been here for 9 days and I have an all nighter for 100,000 per night, my morning massage chicas coming over at 9am for about 50,000 each, sometimes 1, sometimes 2. We have done casa runs and two places are having 2 for 1 for 45,000 or 50,000 plus the other casas are from 25,000 to 35,000. I have been averaging 200,000 to 300,000 a day on chicas but I am having about 3 to 6 a day. Back home, $180 gets me an hour.
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[QUOTE=Phunluv]I hear you. I only got to check out New Life once, but quite frankly I was disappointed especially since a lot of guys here rave about the place. Maybe it was just a bad day?
Anyway, the way one girl introduced herself was definitely like she was an estrato 0! I kind of felt sorry for her and some of the other girls, not their fault they live in that kind of environment. I chose one of the girls in the lineup just for the heck of it, but her body turned out not to be all that and even putting that aside, the whole vibe of the place doesn't do it for me, not really an erotic experience.
Still if you're looking for a quickie on the budget tip, I guess it's a good option although this opinion is based on just my first impression.[/QUOTE]I pulled 1 out of there and had sessions with 2 others that caught my eye.
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[QUOTE=Jeckleman]These girls are not with us for any other reason than cash. The guys on here who talk about the free pussy they once got are either lying or were being played by a smart girl. I have seen these girls push the "off" button on so many guys’ brains that it is incredible. Sure she did not ask for 100, 000 pesos but you took her shopping right? I already know some guy is going to jump in here to claim he gets them all for free so before it is posted I will make my response which is "Suuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre you do! " LOL! By the way if you guys are such studs with unlimited free pussy why do you read this forum? Maybe you should start your own web site called the "International Free Pussy Guide". It would probably eventually get 5 or 6 members.
When I was last in Medellin I rented a Poblado mansion for a week at a price of $1000 a day. The price included a full staff to wait on me hand and foot. I sat all day by the pool being served wine while at least two girls rubbed my feet and fed me cheese. I do not think at any one time I had less than 2 girls in the house in addition to the staff. I was giving these girls nice shinny $100 bills any time they asked. Who cares if I spend $1000 or $2000 a day on girls? It is my money, I made it and I will spend it how I please ...[/QUOTE]Congratulations! You can't even imagine how much I admire guys who brag about spending so much money on chicas.
I'm happy for you actually and hope you enjoy your vacations.
You are correct. It is your money and you should spend as you please.
You're most likely astonished and amused by guys who get loved for free cause you couldn't even imagine it happening to you.
Luckily you've got plenty of shinny $100 bills, so you'll never be lonely.
Have fun out there!
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Hmmmmmmmm, reading this is interesting. First "Jeckleman", as in "Dr Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde". Also, its his VERY FIRST POST. Hmmmmmmmm.
Also, he blindly agrees with Jack having such big balls, ignoring all the other comments regarding Jack's vicious, anti-American post. For these and a myriad of other reasons (such as it's too poorly written to have come from someone who is in a position to casually spend $3,000 of expense account money per night for accommodations, and others), I am highly suspicious of this post (not indicting anybody, but each of you is free to have his own opinion). Perhaps Jack or a friend of his has signed up under another name?
As I said, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Tripp
[QUOTE=Jeckleman]After years of reading this forum I finally have to jump in after reading Jack’s comments and the responses his wisdom generated.
Jack, if I ever meet you I would like to shake your hand for having the balls (or perhaps the cane) to say how things really are. Anyone who thinks a "wh0re is a wh0re" or a "pussy is a pussy" just knows the low end of the scale and not the high end.
I work for a large American investment firm and get a whopping two whole vacations a year. When I travel I travel in style. My company has no problem putting me up in $3000 a night suites when we go on business trips. I expect quality and I will pay for it,.as simple as that. Cash is king in any country in the world.
These girls are not with us for any other reason than cash. The guys on here who talk about the free pussy they once got are either lying or were being played by a smart girl. I have seen these girls push the "off" button on so many guys’ brains that it is incredible. Sure she did not ask for 100, 000 pesos but you took her shopping right? I already know some guy is going to jump in here to claim he gets them all for free so before it is posted I will make my response which is "Suuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre you do! " LOL! By the way if you guys are such studs with unlimited free pussy why do you read this forum? Maybe you should start your own web site called the "International Free Pussy Guide". It would probably eventually get 5 or 6 members.
When I was last in Medellin I rented a Poblado mansion for a week at a price of $1000 a day. The price included a full staff to wait on me hand and foot. I sat all day by the pool being served wine while at least two girls rubbed my feet and fed me cheese. I do not think at any one time I had less than 2 girls in the house in addition to the staff. I was giving these girls nice shinny $100 bills any time they asked. Who cares if I spend $1000 or $2000 a day on girls? It is my money, I made it and I will spend it how I please.
I owner of the house gave me a few phone numbers of his private stock before he left. I told each girl that for every pretty amiga that showed up I would give her $20 and the amiga got $100. There were girls coming to the property all day and all night. A couple of the girls even turned out to be students. I brought in $9990 USD in cash and it was all gone long before I left.
I also hired a private English speaking driver who carried a gun. We went all over the nice parts of Medellin, Rionegra, Sabaneta, Evigato and even a one night trip to Santa Fe with a couple of babes. I saw all there was to offer.
But again, who cares how I spend my money? I had the time of my life. I got to spend a week living like Pablo and it cost me around $20K. How many guys can say that? I spent about $3000 a day on average. That same amount of money would get me ONE single high class escort in the United States. In Medellin that same amount of money got me a mansion, armed guard, full time staff, a lot of site seeing, and SEVERAL girls a day. Plus I found these girls more fun than the typical $3000 a day American escort.
On my next trip I am bringing 5 friends. When by buddies saw what I did they were drooling in envy. We are the types of guys who compete with each other by buying the best Rolexes and exotic cars. It use to be that whoever dies with the most toys wins. Now it has changed to whomever dies knowing the most pussy wins. When my buddies saw the photos of my girls they knew they were going to lose so we are making a group trip. I am sure Jack has us all beat but we are going to try to do our best at spending a lot of money because we want quality.
I really want to see the price of girls go up since it will help eliminate the poor guys. When I am in Black in Argentina I always see guys with class. The ones Jack euphorically calls scum are never in Black since they cannot afford a drink there let alone one of the girls. It is exactly the same as paying $100, 000 a year to join a private golf course. Not only is the grass greener but you are surrounded with guys who also have an extra $100, 000 which makes everything better.
People are really starting to explore Medellin these days. More and more gringos are living there and there is a lot of chat about investment. In fact the last time I was in Black almost everyone was talking about exploring Medellin. So, like it or not, the high end players are coming. If that means some of the poor guys will be pushed out, then all I can say is "too bad".
All this being said there are still a wide variety of girls and price ranges for everyone. I took a trip to Central and Majorista to see what all the talk was about. There were plenty of girls still in the $20 price range as far as I could tell. I even saw a group of gringos lurking around in the shadows trying to solicit these girls.
However, there is no way I am going to consider having sex with Majorista girls. First, almost none looked old enough. Second, there were very few that I would consider even cute. And third, many looked like they were addicted to something. My driver/bodyguard said it was not uncommon for them to be on glue. I was curious to see these places but after about 15 minutes I had saw all I needed to see. You can find a $20 drug addict in the United States with the same quality as a Majorista drug addict so why travel?
The simple fact of the matter is if these Majorista girls did not have some problem then they would be at a better place making a lot more money. That is how economics works. If they were good enough to make 150, 000 pesos at the Australian place then they would not be working for 50, 000 at Majorista. If there were good enough to get 500, 000 from a Colombian man then they would not be working at the Australian place.
I will be back in July for a week. If there are any real players out there who would like to hook up then send me a PM. Jack.good luck on everything. You Sir are a role model for us all. Do not let the other gringos make you so angry. Just remember you are getting what they cannot afford and will never know.
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Cuba? Good enough to eat but not good enough to eat with. Would not of thought that was your attitude. But to each.
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Is this getting to another version of "my dick is bigger than your dick" ?
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Dude is outta control
Jeckleman proof is in the pudding, and I am calling you out, show some pics! Cadets do not lie cheat or steal. Blah blah blah blah but I get the point 5 years later I get the point, behave like a gentleman, and act like a man. Not a little girl who has to bragg about his new purchase or how much money he spent on this or that. Thats the problem with the states, these guys thinks its a compitition like they have to out bid other guys to feel good, thats why pussy is 4500 bucks an hour in the states, instead of 50 bucks, that why its a females world, and men are now "metrasexual" or whatever simply gay
And sorry to tell you there are plenty of guys who get it for free, just becuase you can't doesnt mean it doesnt happen, women are just like men they want a attractive man whom speaks spanish to whisper sweet nouthing into their ear, its reality I don't run away from it I except it, because "IT IS WHAT IT IS"
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[QUOTE=Ricker]Congratulations! You can't even imagine how much I admire guys who brag about spending so much money on chicas.
I'm happy for you actually and hope you enjoy your vacations.
You are correct. It is your money and you should spend as you please.
You're most likely astonished and amused by guys who get loved for free cause you couldn't even imagine it happening to you.
Luckily you've got plenty of shinny $100 bills, so you'll never be lonely.
Have fun out there![/QUOTE]Exactly.
It seems throwing money around and pretending you are living 'like Pablo' not only fools the girls, it fools the fool doing it.
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Uncle Jeckleman
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that these two posters both use the spelling "wh0re".
What a load of bullshit.
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Hi Nortelx,
I think that you're reading something into this that isn't accurate.
The reason that both of these members and others deliberately misspell the word wh0re is because they know that the correct spelling of the word will be starred out by the forum's software, as in this example: *****
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]The Centro houses are the lowest of the low for a lot of locals not just the rich and I'll tell you why. The girls - no matter how beautiful - and many are - are trash. Just imagine some US woman from the deep redneck woods who is missing a tooth, is loud, uneducated. Walking down the street with her screams "I'm with an uneducated trailor trash 2 bit hooker".
Now I know the girls in Centro aren't missing a tooth, but when you are from here and you speak the language that beautiful girl suddenly becomes ugly when she talks like "Boyz From the Hood".
You foreigners don't get this becuase you can't tell the difference - your spanish sucks, you are not from here and to you she is "just another girl, what's the problem?"
Some guys' dicks get limp when in the presence of a trailor trash chick in one of these casas - don't even need to be on the street embarrased. But if you are, the whole world knows you are with a cheap, low class hooker.
This is why many local mongers go to exclusive clubs and grab chicks that are are educated and speak/present themselves well and accompany these guys to where ever and everyone on the street thinks they are a couple. Image is very important in Colombia.
You gringos walking down the street with your estrato 2 ho from Bell Suite or New Life think that just because she's not flashing tits that no one knows the deal.
There are houses in Sabaneta, Envigado and Poblado that don't advertise at all. This is where the creme de la creme work and the rich in Colombia have no problem paying 300K,500K, and over 1 millone for high quality girl they can talk to who is going to rock their world on the street and in the cama.[/QUOTE]Are you nuts!
First of all, I've met other clients, yes Colombianos, at these el centro casas.
Some are regular working guys, some are more affluent.
Secondly, there are all kinds of chicas working in these casas.
Yes of course some are the trashy, dummy type.
There are, however, some pretty nice and hard-working chicas too.
Some single-mothers (totally deserted by their Colombian man to care for their child), some university students paying for school (not all of them have an Uncle Jack) and some cute chicas working to provide for their families.
Some of us can actually talk to the chicas. Just like you speak english, some gringos can actually speak spanish at a level above "hola, como esta usted".
Reminder: most Colombian families are not of the high society, big money families. They have to work and sometimes at jobs they wouldn't exactly choose first.
To be honest, the BEST people I've met in Colombia have been from the simple and humble families.
You know, the hard-working type.
The ones who invite you to their homes and treat you like family.
The worst people have been the snobs who think their shit don't stink and treat their fellow, less fortunate countrymen like mierda.
Have fun in your private club. Big F'ng deal!
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Longtime D.R. pro, ready for a change
I'm looking foward to my first trip to Medellin on Memorial Day weekend for 4 nights. By reading the boards it seems like The Mansion is the place to be. Unfortunately, they are all booked for that weekend.
1. Can one still have a lot of fun without staying at the mansion? 2. What are any other places I may be able to stay at that has chicas hanging aroud? Or any other place thats close to the action?
3. Is this place Mango's a place to pick up chics? The photos I see of the women dancing there are Amazing.
4. Any other guys gonna be around that wanna get together to go hunting, let me know. Its always better to go with someone then alone. I am 35 y/o and 100% fluent in Spanish.
Appreciate the help, and any other tid bits.
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Commanders Intent: To screw cutties
Shit I forget the 5 pragrap oporder o well heres some pics, enjoy.[/QUOTE]Where did you find here?
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This is getting ridiculous.
Anyone can spend whatever they want.
But don't should on me.
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[QUOTE=Trippstadt]Hmmmmmmmm, reading this is interesting. First "Jeckleman", as in "Dr Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde". Also, its his VERY FIRST POST. Hmmmmmmmm.
stuff
As I said, Hmm
Tripp[/QUOTE]I dunno, but it raised a bunch o' red flags in my mind too, as well as leaving a bit of a bad taste. But whatever, its not my lifestyle and I ain't gonna loose any sleep over it. I can only assume that Jackson would have checked out the joining dates, ip addresses and such before he nominated it for a recommendation link.
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[QUOTE=Ricker]To be honest, the BEST people I've met in Colombia have been from the simple and humble families.
You know, the hard-working type.
The ones who invite you to their homes and treat you like family.
The worst people have been the snobs who think their shit don't stink and treat their fellow, less fortunate countrymen like mierda.
![/QUOTE]The biggest pretentious fools I have ever met have been 'society' South Americans. The rest of them as a group are salt of the earth types, people you really like when you get to know them.
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4 photos
The purpose of this Forum...
Atten-SHION
I just had the best 3 some of my life, these two girls were great, and I performed as well too.
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New Colombia
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
I agree, Jeckleman posts and guys like him make no point.
I think these posts are an attack against the "price police" as jackson calls it; as I probly would get lumped into the "price police" group I will say that our posts arent meant to attack or be rude. Even though it sounds like it, but more to inform new vistors of established prices, and also help keep local prices down. WHY becuase we either live here or frequent the place often, and would like to continue to see normal prices and good service in our new home (downhill flight) I do this becuase I realize that some price increase happens when people are not informed or make stupid mistakes or get taken advantage of.
Did you know that the only independent working girls are on the street, ever wonder why some of those girls don't sit at clubs or casa but instead work the street, as some of the wiser "mongers" will tell you you can find some gems on the street. 90% of this "bussniess" in Medellin is operated or managed by somebody other then the girl whos cut is always less then 50% and that person is a GREEDY SOB, so we have more tourists and then we have more price increase, tourists= gringos, when will the price increase stop? When the market won't bear it anymore, IE when tourists stop visiting and paying those prices.
There is nothing anybody can do to stop this, or prevent anybody from tipping extremly well, it will stop when market won't pay it anymore. And were talking about sex, and gringos (newbies) so the market still has a long way to go, I don't like anymore then the rest but its the "fact of life"
Are there colombians who pay extremly well, YES, are there narcos who throw money around? Of course there are. The "big Players" are already here have been for many years, and there not gringos. Colombia is chaning fast, or appears to be. Whatever the case maybe enjoy and good luck
P.S. I want the name of these so called clubs that serve "high class" colombians, money is money is money! I wanna see a 2, 000, 000 COP girl! Or a 500K Chica! Show us some pictures so we can all drool! Throw out some details or usefull information!
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[QUOTE=Jeckleman]I owner of the house gave me a few phone numbers of his private stock before he left. I told each girl that for every pretty amiga that showed up I would give her $20 and the amiga got $100. There were girls coming to the property all day and all night. A couple of the girls even turned out to be students. I brought in $9990 USD in cash and it was all gone long before I left.[/QUOTE]That's how I roll also, but I still exercise some quality control, like tip a finder an $50 for locating really hot chicas not in the biz
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[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]There are houses in Sabaneta, Envigado and Poblado that don't advertise at all. This is where the creme de la creme work and the rich in Colombia have no problem paying 300K,500K, and over 1 millone for high quality girl they can talk to who is going to rock their world on the street and in the cama.[/QUOTE]So how does one go about locating these houses if they don't adverstise? Help a brother out!
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My Maserati does 195.
Allow me provide an analogy so some of you guys can understand how the world works.
Last year I bought a brand new Maserati. It is a thing of true beauty that many people cannot appreciate. When I was in graduate school I remember a guy drove up beside me in a Countach. I was driving a Pinto at the time. I remember thinking to myself "man, some day I am going to own one of them". The Countach to me was a symbol of achievement and I admired the owner for having the success to own something so beautiful.
A couple of months ago someone keyed my Maserati. I was pissed off but I realized that anyone who would do that was just a jealous loser because he knew that he could never own something similar. So while some people look at beauty as inspiration to work hard knowing that they too can obtain it there are others who look at beauty with spite because it is out of their reach.
I think the guys who complain about the price of the high end girls are exactly like the guy who scratched my car. I worked hard to make my money and I deserve to drive a Maserati (plus my X5 and M3). How I spend my money is my business and I love spending it on girls. Some of these girls do not even realize that they are Maseratis but I am teaching them that they have a far greater value than most of the gringos are paying. I hope they all raise their price so that the Pinto drivers will either be inspired or get so pissed off that they leave.
You might find yourself a Pinto in the junkyard. It might even be possible to find yourself a free Pinto. But when it is all said and done you are still driving a Pinto. You are not going to find a Maserati free anywhere in the world. Beauty always has a price. There are those who will pay for it, there are those who admire it and then there are those who wish it did not exist.
So you found yourself a free Pinto. Maybe you have found 3 or 4 free Pintos. Congratulations. But remember it is a Pinto and the guy in the Maserati does not want a Pinto even for free. In fact he would pay to have a Pinto removed from his property.
I am sure some Pinto drivers look at me and say "well that thing depreciated thousand of dollars. Or "he is stupid because the insurance is so high". Or "he is wasting all his money on gas while my Pinto consumes much less". But the fact is the guys like me in the Maseratis do not give a shit what you think. We have the money to afford these things and we knew the costs of ownership when we bought it. In fact, we know the costs much more clearly than you guys will ever understand because what we have is out of your reach. (Still following the analogy guys? )
I do not hate the guy in the Pinto. I use to be him. What I hate is the guy in the Pinto who will always drive a' Pinto. And I am seeing a lot of permanent Pinto drivers in this forum.
So the next time I am in Colombia I am going to continue handing out shinny hundred dollar bills to every girl I meet. I am going to tell all my friends that they too should hand out hundred dollar bills. Every girl will go home with a smile on her face knowing that someone admired her beauty.
I have read all the negative comments which I clearly anticipated. But as I said the man in the Maserati does not care. Remember that the next time you see a Maserati zoom past your Pinto.
Uncle Jack is a man of great inspiration. He is driving an Enzo. Some day I too will drive an Enzo. Congratulations Jack. But be careful where you park it because there are lots of guys out there who will try to key it.
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I went to New Life once as well and those girl were SCARY. I looked at my driver and said "this is it, really? People pay for this?" But hey, to each there own but don't shit on everyone who pays more.
[QUOTE=Phunluv]I hear you. I only got to check out New Life once, but quite frankly I was disappointed especially since a lot of guys here rave about the place. Maybe it was just a bad day?
Anyway, the way one girl introduced herself was definitely like she was an estrato 0! I kind of felt sorry for her and some of the other girls, not their fault they live in that kind of environment. I chose one of the girls in the lineup just for the heck of it, but her body turned out not to be all that and even putting that aside, the whole vibe of the place doesn't do it for me, not really an erotic experience.
Still if you're looking for a quickie on the budget tip, I guess it's a good option although this opinion is based on just my first impression.[/QUOTE]
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Exactly! Everyone needs to read this post before going to Medellin.
When I was in Majorista I could actually smell glue on one of the girls. You could see in their eyes that they were stoned out of their minds. I even remember reading a post on here where one guy said his regular girl was losing her memory because of long term glue use.
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]The Centro houses are the lowest of the low for a lot of locals not just the rich and I'll tell you why. The girls - no matter how beautiful - and many are - are trash. Just imagine some US woman from the deep redneck woods who is missing a tooth, is loud, uneducated. Walking down the street with her screams "I'm with an uneducated trailor trash 2 bit hooker".
Now I know the girls in Centro aren't missing a tooth, but when you are from here and you speak the language that beautiful girl suddenly becomes ugly when she talks like "Boyz From the Hood".
You foreigners don't get this becuase you can't tell the difference - your spanish sucks, you are not from here and to you she is "just another girl, what's the problem?"
Some guys' dicks get limp when in the presence of a trailor trash chick in one of these casas - don't even need to be on the street embarrased. But if you are, the whole world knows you are with a cheap, low class hooker.
This is why many local mongers go to exclusive clubs and grab chicks that are are educated and speak/present themselves well and accompany these guys to where ever and everyone on the street thinks they are a couple. Image is very important in Colombia.
You gringos walking down the street with your estrato 2 ho from Bell Suite or New Life think that just because she's not flashing tits that no one knows the deal.
There are houses in Sabaneta, Envigado and Poblado that don't advertise at all. This is where the creme de la creme work and the rich in Colombia have no problem paying 300K,500K, and over 1 millone for high quality girl they can talk to who is going to rock their world on the street and in the cama.
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Just to set things straight
[QUOTE=Ricker]Heya Cuba. You know we're amigos but I don't get this at all.
What does it matter if you take a working chica to eat? Parque Lleras or wherever.
What does it matter if they are they are dining near you with their friends?
Big deal really.
Take care.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Escort King]Cuba? Good enough to eat but not good enough to eat with. Would not of thought that was your attitude. But to each.[/QUOTE]Ricker & Escort King,
I guess you guys missed the "Pure Bull" statement after the two paragraphs.
I was being fisticious when I said I would not eat at Parque Lleras because prostitutes go there with their Johns. I was comparing that statement with the one Uncle Jack made about being embarrased to eat there with ******* Americans. Go back and reread it and you will understand. Sorry if it was too convincing.
BTW-It doesn't matter to me who is in Parque Lleras eating next to me.
Cheers,
Cubanut
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Jeckleman, what's your old user name?
ISG shows that you've posted 4 reports, but when I execute a search to find other posts by "Jeckleman", it comes up with just one.
Could it be that you've changed your user name? I'd really like to see your prior posts.
Maybe Jackson will be kind enough to help me find out what the user name used to be and to locate 3 missing post?
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Hi Lucky Strike,
You're chasing ghosts.
First, even when somebody changes their username, it is changed on all their past reports also.
Second, the answer to your mystery is that he had three reports pending moderation at the moment that you did your search.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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A summation of the post: Ricker agrees with Sailor2006.
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Actually you're right.
I'm going to take a breather from this Colombian forum for a bit too.
Entirely too much BS lately with all the Donald Trump wannabees, and myself adding to the mess.
Off to Brazil :)
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Where should I continue with my trip report. I don't want to mess up this section.
Last night we went to the Concert by some bbig time Reggae Tone groups. It was an experience.
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[QUOTE=Cubanut]
BTW-It doesn't matter to me who is in Parque Lleras eating next to me.
C
Cubanut[/QUOTE]Brings back a memory of me and you sitting in one of the restaraunts with three young medelling girls, and you kept giving them these little flowers you brought from back home, and the girls would get all excited.
Fun times.
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We're in this together.
My two cents.
It seems here the big issues are:
1/ don't inflate the prices for everyone else
2/don't act like a jack as s making us all look bad.
Prices:
If you haven't noticed the colombians are unlike any other latinos, they have a really big reputation for being opportunistic, they see themselves as culturally gifted with an inate ability to take advantage of situations, while they are sad about the tragedies in Colombia they take a grim pride in being the best at counterfiting, drug smuggling, kidnapping, and political corruption. Every girl I've ever met in Colombia takes the term 'Lista' to a extreme that I've never seen in mexico, Cuba or CR. Its only natural for girls to ask for more and more money its just that in Colombia the raising of prices has ocurred so much faster in such a short time when compared to how prices changed in other places like DR, Costa Rica and Cuba. The reason for this is that the average colombian hoo ker isn't stupid like her other latin colleages she takes pride in taking advantage therefore its just natural for the colombiana to ask for more and more. This is the main reason for the price increase, but that soap opera SIn Tetas no Hay Paraiso didn't help either, now every ho oker sees herself as a Prepago and can't get out of her mind El titi paying 500, 000 pesos for the night. If gringos are to blame it aint the wh0re mongers its more likely the thousands of guys who have never been to Colombia but manage to send money to their internet sweet hearts. You can pay anything you want the effect is minimal the real force driving prices up are the lista colombianas themselves.
Acting Like a Jac k AS S:
Uncle Jack don't worry too much about rude gringos. I was in covenas this January at a resort called la fragata in the pool were 4 colombian rancher types and they had a nice paisa hoo ker in thong that it looked like they all chipped in for, They were drinking rum from the bottle and she was making out with each of them in turn, they were loud vulgar and rude to pretty much everyone, but to be honest I didn't see any of the ladies or the kids roll their eyes or even react no one seemed to care. In the plaza in turbaco I've seen colombian guys pull up in their land cruisers and out pop the ho okers blaring music and dirty dancing right in front of the church. No to mention the zoo that is a cabalgata. Gringos at their worst are still pretty tame for Colombia maybe if Colombia ever becomes a spring break destination and the Cancun crowd shows up id get worried now those guys are rude.
I embrace my fellow gringos down in Colombia I can trust a gringo to watch my back and you can count on me to lend a hand. When I see a gringo in the tent beside me on the beach I don't see him as a rival but a brother on my side against the horde.
Remember, we're all in this together.
Tom Power
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[QUOTE=Jeckleman]Some tedious analogy about cars[/QUOTE]Hi Jackson,
Is this really relevant to "the exchange of information between men on the subject of finding women for sex"? At the very least could it, and its brethren, be moved out of the Medellin forum before they cause an unwarranted jealous reaction from those of us who don't have an infinite bucket of dollars to play with? Or Pinto fans, of course.
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1. Yes, one can have plenty of fun without going to the mansion. My first 30+ trips I stayed at the Hotel Park 10, also in poblado. The price is about 220k per night for a 2 room suite. This hotel is beautiful. They, like many hotels in poblado, have now started charging 25k-50k per night if a chica stays over with you. There are lots and lots of hotels that are similar.
If you stay at one of them you will need to do some extra homework (the medellin lists thread is a good place to start) so you know the casas and clubs to go to.
2a. I don't know that there are any other hotels that actually have chicas hanging out, but if you go out to the casas/clubs and get the phone #s of the chicas you like you will not need any chicas hanging around, just call who you want.
2b. "Close to the action", is a concept you should abandon asap. The "action" is in your bedroom or at the various casas/clubs. You will use the readily available and cheap taxis to take you to these places which are spread out in different areas of the city and you will use the phone to arrange action at your room.
3. While I am sure that chicks from Mangos have been picked up, it is not an especially good place to go to pick up chicks IMHO. Any of the malls in the city would be you a much quieter, more relaxed setting to talk to and pick up chicks. This is a good reason to stay somewhere other than the mansion, because if you are going to hunting in the non-p4p pool you don't want to walk your catch into the p4p pool. I have personally witnessed two different occasions where guys got blown out of the water with a regular chica when a few of the mansion girls showed up to "compete".
That said, if you are only going to be there for 4 days, and you are not going to be on the internet lining up dates ahead of time, then going the non-p4p route with its inherent uncertainties could wind up eating away a lot of your time without much of an action payoff. I'm not saying its impossible or even unlikely that you could score this way, but its a gamble with your most precious resource, in this case....time.
4. This is one of the reasons that I have been staying at the mansion lately. My normal traveling buddy brought home a paisa and so is pretty much out of the game. The mansion is a great place to find hunting parties for the p4p pool. I suggest you go by when you get into medellin. You can take a look at the place and perhaps they will have a last minute cancelation and you can get in there.
Also, you might run into some guys and get a few pointers or hook up at a club later.
Shafty7
[QUOTE=Sixpaku Too]I'm looking foward to my first trip to Medellin on Memorial Day weekend for 4 nights. By reading the boards it seems like The Mansion is the place to be. Unfortunately, they are all booked for that weekend.
1. Can one still have a lot of fun without staying at the mansion? 2. What are any other places I may be able to stay at that has chicas hanging aroud? Or any other place thats close to the action?
3. Is this place Mango's a place to pick up chics? The photos I see of the women dancing there are Amazing.
4. Any other guys gonna be around that wanna get together to go hunting, let me know. Its always better to go with someone then alone. I am 35 y/o and 100% fluent in Spanish.
Appreciate the help, and any other tid bits.[/QUOTE]
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Some of these guys need to get out more.
The world is filled with rude Germans, the big joke when I was staying at the Mansion was that there was a German that the guys did'nt find offensive.
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Would you Marry a Colombian Pro?
Hey guys.
I know everyone on this posting are hornballs otherwise you guys wouldn't be coming back to Colombia for your sexual excursions! =)
Those who arent married. Would you guys considering marrying a Prostitute/hooker/escort?
Let say you met a beautiful sweet Colombia girls, very nice, caring, responsible, all the good qualities of a good wife, but she told her past she was a pro. Would you marry her?
Be honest guys!
For me.
I might marry one! LOL. Just as long she doesnt have any excess baggage or diseases!
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Tom Power]No to mention the zoo that is a cabalgata. Gringos at their worst are still pretty tame for Colombia [/QUOTE]Ain't that the fucking truth. Having enduring one cabalgata I've never been to another. A ruder, drunker, more abusive bunch of people I've never met in my life. Big crowds at celebrations are bad news.
It really might be the booze. I found myself starting to get that way once. I now no longer touch aquadiente, white tequila, or national licors apart from when it would be considered rude to refuse.
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I was just thinking about a conversation a few of us had at the Mansion a couple of weeks ago and I thought I would post it here.
When, you go to the casas (Loutron, Blue Room, etc) bring a small notepad and a pen. Many of these places have you sit in a room and have the girls come in one at a time and then ask you to choose which one you want. It is sometimes very difficult to remember the name of the second or third one after you have seen 8 more chicas.
As each girl exits write down her name and rate her attractiveness on the 1 - 10 scale, that way you will have a record of who you saw and how hot they are. Then, after you have had your session, rate the one you picked on her performance 1 - 10 and if she was good definitely get her phone#.
Before you leave the casa make sure to get a business card. Want some action later? Call one of the chicas you had a good time with and have her come over before/after work or on sunday. Can't wait that long? or she can't make it? Call the casa and tell them to send over the next highest rated. Rate her performance. Get her #. Rinse and repeat.
As I was telling a table full of mongers this plan poolside at the mansion one of the more experienced guys walks in, fresh from a trip to Loutron, whips out his notepad and says, "Oh, you mean like this one?"
After a 4 day trip using this method you should have a list that looks something like this:
LOUTRON 444-4204 321-4490 175k
Alejandra 7
Claudia 7
Lena 9 9 000-000-0000
Paola 8
Johana 10 8 000-000-0000
Leidi 8
Jenifer 11 6
Estella 10 10 000-0000 000-000-0000
Carmen 9 8 000-0000
BLUE ROOM 250-0363 80k
Luz Stella 9 8 000-000-0000
Paola Andrea 8 10 000-0000
Diana 8
Marcela 5
Nathalia 7
Kelly 9 5
Gloria 8
Is that something you might be interested in?
By the way, those are the real phone #s and fairly current per hour prices for the casas.
Someone also suggested that you can just take your cell phone with you, put the #s in the phone and take a picture of each chica to remind you who is who. This works great for the chicas you session with, but doesn't help so much with remembering all the names at the introduction stage.
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Pre Unions
Thats a good question many of the girls whom frequent the dating agencys are "prepagos" in their off time, while studying.
I guess the answear to that question would be diffrent for each person, but to answear a question with a question is their a diffrence between a hooker working in a "casa" and a girl who dates a 80 year old man for a "nice life" or a older man with profession and high paying job? My personal answear is its the same, no diffrence one has had more sex do to the nature of her work the other could be more ruthless and cutthroat do to the fact she is a predator looking for stablity and wealth.
So i would marry a "hooker" i have no problem with it as along as she hasnt been on the "industry" for long period of time, they tend to get jaded, when doing long tours heres what i would use to determine if a working girl can be a good wife.
1. Age young the better 20's
2. Time working
3. physical apprence
4. family members large family and you will be supporting them
5. conversation and conntection
The younger the girl, probly less time in the bussniess 20's is ideal; having children is a good sign means she is willing to do what it takes to provide for her kids, its respectable, a large family with no children means her parents put her to work becuase she can earn plata, not a good sign she is attached to the family and they will be a problem. physical apprence, your buying a wife lets not kid ourself, so if your buying something buy the style and size you want i personally like em tall, black hair, dark eyes, large chest, nice legs cute feet, little heavy or what i call thick, but just as important you want some one you connect with can talk and deal with, this takes time to devlope and discover.
I have had some good conversations about marrigage with the "working girls", most do want to leave the industry but are weary of "johns" and some are short timers, who put their time in make their money and leave to live their own lives. What i tell them is i am getting it out of my system in my 20's and will be ready to settle down in my early 30's, they dont believe me. as childish as it sounds may of these girls want to find "love" or the image of it, they want the flowers the phone calls the whispers the romance of a relationship, i use to think guys like ricker were full of shit, and stupid for smoozhing with the girls soo much, but i was WRONG, it makes a diffrence a huge diffrence. good tip
[QUOTE=Jergens007]Hey guys.
I know everyone on this posting are hornballs otherwise you guys wouldn't be coming back to Colombia for your sexual excursions! =)
Those who arent married. Would you guys considering marrying a Prostitute/hooker/escort?
Let say you met a beautiful sweet Colombia girls, very nice, caring, responsible, all the good qualities of a good wife, but she told her past she was a pro. Would you marry her?
Be honest guys!
For me.
I might marry one! LOL. Just as long she doesnt have any excess baggage or diseases!
Cheers![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jergens007]....Those who arent married. Would you guys considering marrying a Prostitute/hooker/escort?
Let say you met a beautiful sweet Colombia girls, very nice, caring, responsible, all the good qualities of a good wife, but she told her past she was a pro. Would you marry her?[/QUOTE]Easy question for me. NO, NO, NO!
Here are my reasons:
1) I am not a big fan of marraige to begin with.
2) Considering the number of attractive, sweet, intelligent, educated Latinas out there, there is just no reason to marry a current or former prostitute.
3) I've seen tons of these marriages before, in multiple countries, and I bet less than 5% last 3 years.
4) I personally believe that once a woman has sold her ass it is like biting the apple from the "Tree of Knowledge" in the Garden Of Eden. She has crossed that line and is MUCH more likely to cross it again if times get rough financially (or if she see a nice pair of shoes in the mall). As a side note, I think the same can be said of men who frequent prostitutes (namely, us). How commited and faithful a husband can I be, knowing that I can have sex with a 18 year old gorgeous girl whenever I want, no matter how old I get. The temptation for new pussy is just to strong.
Guys tend to fall into relationships of dating/marrying putas because it is so easy. This girl's current (or former) job is to make men feel good. She knows just how to act to seem almost perfect. These hookers are much more direct about pushing a guy's buttons to make him fall for them. Sure, some guys have dated 9's and 10's in normal lives, but how many of those 9's and 10's treated those guys like a king and worshiped them.
Thats what gets guys. They have this unbelievably gorgeous girl treating them wonderfully and they don't have to work for it like they do with regular girls. Why work hard at pulling a 6 or 7 who seems somewhat interested in you, when this 9 or 10 acts like a new puppy who see's her master come through the door whenever she is with you. Being worshiped by a gorgeous woman is the ultimate mindfuck for guys.
The reason she is treating you like a king is because of the power difference in your relationship. Marrying her and/or bringing her back to the U. S destroys your power advantage. You want to hang out with these girls and (in some cases) even date them, fine. But don't marry them and don't bring them back to the U. S.
So Jergens007, did you fall for some Colombiana (current or former) pro while you were in Medellin?
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Thanks Sailor2006
Hey Guys,
Just wanted to give do Kudos to Sailor2006. I hung out with him for a couple of days last week and Sailor2006 has a very nice apartment and really seems to have a handle on what is really going on in Medellin. I even saw the famous Sailor2006 couch were many of his HOT photos were taken!! LOL
The local bar establishments (Mgr's) were especially nice to us as Sailor2006 comes across as a true professional "Gringo" in the eyes of the locals.
Thanks for showing me some of your secret watering holes Sailor2006.
See ya again soon!
KB151
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006] ... i use to think guys like ricker were full of shit, and stupid for smoozhing with the girls soo much, but i was WRONG, it makes a diffrence a huge diffrence. good tip[/QUOTE]What, me full of shit?
:)
Just makes sense amigo. These are just girls. Like you said, they have their own hopes and dreams and desires.
My current novia in Venezuela was a pro at one time. She had a new baby, of course the father of the kid ran off, and her father had run off years before.
How can I hold it against a girl if she's had sex with many guys if I've most likely had sex with many more chicas than she has with clients. At least she was doing it for survival, me for sport.
Of course you can't be a dummy. There are obviously chicas who will use their "fake carino (affection)" towards a guy or guys to gain more money. Experience and communication skills teach you. I think I can spot them after 5 minutes now
Glad to see you maturing to a wise person Sailor
Really, among the sea of sillyness on this Colombian forum lately, I've enjoyed your posts.
Take care amigos!
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Hygiene in the centro mp's
I was curious to know what the hygiene factor is in the centro mp's ?
Do these girls have access to soap and water in the room? I am asking this because I am a fan of DATY like I'm sure many of us are.
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[QUOTE=Count Dante] So Jergens007, did you fall for some Colombiana (current or former) pro while you were in Medellin?[/QUOTE]
No I am sure he is just doing research for a "friend".
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Soap and water
Yes, at least some of them do that I know of for sure. I took a shower at two and most of the girls came in freshly showered. I do not know if this is at every casa but true at some. Sexi and Karma Sutra are two that come to mind now that I think about it.
Dp
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I was curious to know what the hygiene factor is in the centro mp's ?
Do these girls have access to soap and water in the room? I am asking this because I am a fan of DATY like I'm sure many of us are.[/QUOTE]Every girl I was with in the MPs washed their pussies when they were finished if the bathroom was right there.
I'm also a big fan of DATY, but I would never DATY an el centro MP girl or a Mayorista Street girls. I did DATY some mansion girls (they had just arrived and hadn't fucked another guy there, yet) and a few prepago types that I called over, but MP girls, in el centro? Nope. Some of these MP girls are getting 6-10 dicks in them a day. If you do decide to DATY, you may want to come to the MP as soon as they open, to get the girls reasonably fresh. YMMV.
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Zulia at Barra ejecutiva
That night I could not call any of my favorite girls so I decided to go to the center and to see what was going on in the strip places.
My taxi left me near the Botero’s place and I first walk till the De Grief ave to have a look.
As usual at that time, I couldn’t see any interesting girl there.
I then walk back till the strip place and enter in several of them.
I usually got in and look if I see interesting girls (slim, attractive). If I can’t see them, I immediately leave the place without paying anything.
When I got in the American Bar (Calle Maracaibo) they had some nice girls, so I sat down and ordered a bottle of water.
I was looking to the 2 or 3 attractive girls when a fatty came and sat down by my side.
I politely told her that I was not interested in her, but she wouldn’t move, so I got mad and leave the place.
I walked a little bit more (20 meters) till the Barra ejecutiva and went in.
When I start to observe the girls, I immediately noticed a 10.
She was very cute, with false big tits and a slim body and a nice face.
I was lucky enough that time to have her seat with me.
We started to talk a little bit and after a while + a whiskey, we start to talk business.
She wanted 60K for 30 minutes… I said Ok but I want pictures, DATY and BBBJ.
She agreed. And we left for the room.
We closed the door and I took my camera. Immediately Zulia start to act like a playboy girl. I was delighted, I had a model (a 10, have a look at the pictures and movie) playing with me the game of the sexy excitement.
After maybe 5 minutes of this I had to think about acting as 30 minutes vanishes very fast. So, I start to take my clothes off and got close to Zulia. Unfortunately, the good moment was behind us. She gave me a very poor and short BBBJ and then she didn’t like the DATY, didn’t want to let me take pictures while acting, well, the classical story I have experimented so much with 10s, very nice looking girls and very bad bed behavior.
As I had had no sex for 5 days, I was able to reach climax with the condom, but of course, without enjoying it really.
After I came, I had maybe 5 minutes left, but Zulia was not interested in speaking with me. She just runs out of the room.
The room keeper asked me for a tip and then the door keeper !!! I gave nothing.
I was almost thinking of doing another tour to see if I could been luckier in another place but it was already late and I had an early appointment the following day, so I went back straight to my hotel.
I have made a movie from my meeting with Zulia.
2008-03-27_Mde-ZuliaAtBarraEjecutivaISG.mp4
Size : 18,4Mo
Length : 2’30”
Quality : Good, this girl is a real 10 in my book...
[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK37174815160ea7085[/url]
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Jergens007]Hey guys.
I know everyone on this posting are hornballs otherwise you guys wouldn't be coming back to Colombia for your sexual excursions! =)
Those who arent married. Would you guys considering marrying a Prostitute/hooker/escort?
Let say you met a beautiful sweet Colombia girls, very nice, caring, responsible, all the good qualities of a good wife, but she told her past she was a pro. Would you marry her?
Be honest guys!
For me.
I might marry one! LOL. Just as long she doesnt have any excess baggage or diseases!
Cheers![/QUOTE]Dude, there is a term you need to become familar with in considering this decision, and that is "jaded". Like in the US with strippers, if they are in the biz longer than one year, forget about it unless you alsow want to live with drama, I. E. , issues with other guys screwing you girl for whatever reason.
Women in the sex biz lose respect for men or see them in a different light (a means, an ATM) after they see them trade dollars for physical pleasure. You can "save" a girl if she is fresh, but if she has lost that romatic love for men that most women have been spoon fed by their moms, she is a lost cause.
Just my 2 cents, from experience.
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Atten-SHION
I just had the best 3 some of my life, these two girls were great, and I performed as well too.[/QUOTE]Sailor,
Brunette in black has a hot body.
Kudos for living it up.
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More picture from Zulia at Barra ejecutiva
The rest of my pictures from my meeting with Zulia.
Enjoy
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[QUOTE=Count Dante]Easy question for me. NO, NO, NO!
3) I've seen tons of these marriages before, in multiple countries, and I bet less than 5% last 3 years.
4) I personally believe that once a woman has sold her ass it is like biting the apple from the "Tree of Knowledge" in the Garden Of Eden. She has crossed that line and is MUCH more likely to cross it again if times get rough financially (or if she see a nice pair of shoes in the mall).[/QUOTE]While I agree with the Count's overall thesis, in my experience these 2 points are off.
I have 4 guys who work with me who have married colombianas who used to be in the game, the longest for about 6 years. All 4 a reasonably happy (they do still get that itch tho). I even have a fifth buddy who brought home a paisa last year and is planning to marry her.
I have been amazed at how these women completely leave that old life behind to become wives and mothers. Its like they flipped a switch. And, it does make sense when I think about lots of older women who used to be out there in the street when they were younger (not necessarily hooking), but you would never know it by how they act now.
I'm still not advocating any kind of marriage, but its not because I worry about how a woman would adjust to family life, especially a paisa, thats what they are socialized to want from the cradle.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I was curious to know what the hygiene factor is in the centro mp's ?
Do these girls have access to soap and water in the room? I am asking this because I am a fan of DATY like I'm sure many of us are.[/QUOTE]Just speaking for my experiences in New Life, each room had a full bath (shower/toilet), and the girls showered after the session.
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A moment with an unknown Black Girl at Mayorista
That night I felt like trying a new pussy.
I tried several phone numbers Karen gave me, but I had no chance as the girls wouldn’t answer their pone or were already busy.
So, I could try the centre or a club, but I rather tried Mayorista.
I arrived their by taxi (4k from the Poblado), and start to walk along the strip.
I was curious to know who that night was there. I recognized and said Hello, to Daniela, but it was a slow night as there were not much girls or guys.
I walked up and down several times the strip. Some girls try to attract my attention but they were not my kind.
I was curious to see Milady but she was not there. I recognized several other girls, but nothing interesting. At a moment, I crossed way with a tall and thin light black girl.
We stared at each other but kept our ways. In my up and down I crossed her several times but she would just look at me and then, ignore me.
After a while, I found her seated in a bar with her friend, a fatty. We start to talk and they asked me for a drink (4K), and I said yes. The fatty quickly understood that I was interested in her friend and she pushes her in my arms. We talk business and she claimed 30K. I told her I wanted DATY, pictures and BBBJ. She asked for 20 more and we closed the business at 40K + the room (15K).
We went to a close motel and once in the room got naked. She let me do a few shots and then asked me to stop as she didn’t want to be taken screwing.
I started with my favourite DATY and the girl responded well. After maybe 7 minutes I think she even came! Of course, she might have play but I think that she was more a beginner. I then got close and wanted to enter but she asked me to put the condom. I told her that I wouldn’t feel much with the rubber on, but she remained firm.
So, I let her cover me and start to screw in missionary. After maybe 3 or 4 minutes I was loosing stiffness and start to complain.
I proposed her a tip to take it out and she accepted to discuss the price. We closed the deal for an extra 20K. Once again I was having BBFS!
We did several positions but this time I was feeling good and came after 10 minutes. We then washed ourselves with cold water as we were both sweating.
I paid her the extra for the BBFS and she left before me with a good bye kiss.
When I left the motel 5 minutes later, I saw her seated again with her friend and she wanted me to seat with them and has some drinks, but I was tired, so I declined the invitation and went back to my hotel with a taxi.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Shafty 7]I have 4 guys who work with me who have married colombianas who used to be in the game, the longest for about 6 years. All 4 a reasonably happy (they do still get that itch tho). I even have a fifth buddy who brought home a paisa last year and is planning to marry her.[/QUOTE]Add me to the list. I'm married to a Colombian/Ecuatorian. She has no interest in going back to that life. It's tough to even get her to go to a strip club. She's happy with the change.
There are many girls that are hookers simply out of necessity to pay the bills or help their families. Given a choice, they would give it up in a minute. There are others, however, that like the life style, the attention and the better money than others around them are making. I had a Colombian like that - she didn't want to give it up. And I left her behind.
David
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[QUOTE=Tom Cruze]Dude, there is a term you need to become familar with in considering this decision, and that is "jaded". Like in the US with strippers, if they are in the biz longer than one year, forget about it unless you alsow want to live with drama, I. E. , issues with other guys screwing you girl for whatever reason.
Women in the sex biz lose respect for men or see them in a different light (a means, an ATM) after they see them trade dollars for physical pleasure. You can "save" a girl if she is fresh, but if she has lost that romatic love for men that most women have been spoon fed by their moms, she is a lost cause.
Just my 2 cents, from experience.[/QUOTE]I would tend to agree. You have to catch them early if you're going to have a chance with them. Too much time in the working world and they are changed forever. That $$ is addictive and their respect for men goes out the window fast.
David
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[QUOTE=Count Dante]The reason she is treating you like a king is because of the power difference in your relationship. Marrying her and/or bringing her back to the U. S destroys your power advantage. You want to hang out with these girls and (in some cases) even date them, fine. But don't marry them and don't bring them back to the U. S.[/QUOTE]For many, it's not about power, it's about respect and a relationship. If you treat them with respect, they will more likely do the same with you. Not all of us are interested in treating them like objects (although I've been guilty of that in past years).
I searched in many countries for years for that person I could truly connect with and I finally found her in Ecuador. And I married her. And we're both happy.
It sounds like you are a lot like I was in past years - the bad taste in the mouth with past relationships and wanting to take the easy lay. At least in my case, that gets tiring after years of traveling to many countries. I'm happy to settle down. I can still have fun without dealing with the headaches of worrying about getting robbed in the night, etc. There's a happy medium sometimes.
I have no interest in taking her to the states. If anything, we'd move to a different country so I can still enjoy different experiences.
David
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You guys could be right. Maybe Colombiana former/current hookers living in Colombia are different from hookers in every other Latin American country. I'm just not willing to risk half of my assets to test the theory.
But let me ask a question I alluded to earlier. Other than her POSSIBLY being a little hotter, is there really any reason to marry a Colombian (current or former) prostitute over a "regular" Colombiana? I understand that some guys just "fall in love" with their favorita and if the majority of their time is spent with pros, it is easy to begin to see them as potential marriage material. I just wouldn't consider it when taking in to account all of the hot single women in the country who are not hookers.
I know a fair number of Colombianos living in the U. S and many of them know of the amount of time I spend in Latin America and my willingness to purchase a home there and live semi-permenantly. No less than 4 of them tried to hook me up with their cousin/neice/friend. These ladies AREN'T looking to move to "El Norte". They are beautiful, educated, successful, and SINGLE. Talking to guys living here that are dating "regular girls" only reinforces this perspective for me.
If you guys are successful marrying former pros, you have my most sincere congradulations. It just is not a rational option for me. Also, it comes down to traits that I find valuable in a long term partner. The majority of pros (current and former) just don't have them. However, I know everyone is different.
In a way, I REALLY, REALLY hope it is true what you guys are saying about Colombiana former pros. However, I feel that if it is true now, it may not hold true in 10-15 years, as more gringos come down and try to play "Captian Save-A-Hoe" by sending these girls WU checks every month and they realize that they can do better stringing 4 guys along than marrying and being faithful to 1.
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Another new American owned entry in Medellin, in Park Lleras.
[url]www.tigerpawhostel.com[/url]
Don't let the name fool you. Pretty nice with cheap rooms and private rooms.
Be first to soil the sheets.
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Cumming to you LIVE from room 12 at the Mansion!
Gents,
Long story made short. This past Feb, my buddy and I attended a Sunday Pool Party at the Mansion. As usual, Greg, Robert, Boyd and the staff were great hosts.
As usual, great looking chicas showed up. There was lots of eating, drinking and good times and laughter amongst mongers. There was a dance/strip contest as well.
However, a few guys wanted a little something different. Now of course Mansion guests have seen lesbian shows before as well but never a LIVE SEX SHOW. Well Greg said he had the perfect girl to do the deed but we still needed a STUD. I quickly volunteered by buddy and after he agreed, we headed off to room 12.
I believe the pictures tell the rest of story better than I can.
Cheers,
Cubanut
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Sailor2006,
Good post buddy!
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[QUOTE=Count Dante]So Jergens007, did you fall for some Colombiana (current or former) pro while you were in Medellin?[/QUOTE]I never paid for sex till took my first trip to Colombia back in Sept 07. I went to Fase 2, oh my gosh! The women were so damn hot!
So hot. I ask myself. Why in the hell are they working here? Shit. If they were in the US. Rich desperate mother fuckers would be showering with gifts, jewlery, a bmw. Like alot of these hot hoes in Hollywood.
The answer to your question. No I didn't fall for one while I was in Medellin. Honestly, If I spoke better spanish and lived in Medellin I probably would fall for one of the girls at Fase 2. LOL
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Col Bog 1,
Damn! Good pick! She is hot!
I would love to pound her ass! Great video too!
Where is Barra ejecutiva is that new casa? I didn't hear of this place when I'm down there. Is it upscale like Loutron and Fase 2?
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Colombian Women Vs Brazilian Women?
What up guys?
I am planning my next South American excursion In November. Its either Argentina or Brazil. I am leaning towards Brazil because I love their culture, music, food.
As far as women is concern, I into more of the light skinned Paisa types, I like big boobs, big booty, I admit, I do like them plastic. I love women with figures of Kim Kardashian, Sofia Vegara. You get the idea!
I know in Sao Paulo, you have more the lighter skinned european types.
Where as in Rio de Janerio have a good mixture of everything and alot of big bundas! =)
Help me out guys. Colombian women are hot as hell, they met beyond my expectations! I know Brazil is up there too! From my personal preference, that I stated. Who do you think I would like better. Brazilian women? Or Colombian women?
Thanks!
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Columbian prostitutes on youtube.com
Hi guys,
I found about 20 odd videos of a guy entering the seedy establishments doted around columbia. Check them out there pretty good
[url]http://www.youtube.com/user/pjbp1[/url]
Cali Bog,
Keep up the good work, your reports stand out from others with your cool videos. If anyone else has any links to real hiddens camera etc please post links or vids.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Jergens007]What up guys?
I am planning my next South American excursion In November. Its either Argentina or Brazil. I am leaning towards Brazil because I love their culture, music, food.
As far as women is concern, I into more of the light skinned Paisa types, I like big boobs, big booty, I admit, I do like them plastic. I love women with figures of Kim Kardashian, Sofia Vegara. You get the idea!
I know in Sao Paulo, you have more the lighter skinned european types.
Where as in Rio de Janerio have a good mixture of everything and alot of big bundas! =)
Help me out guys. Colombian women are hot as hell, they met beyond my expectations! I know Brazil is up there too! From my personal preference, that I stated. Who do you think I would like better. Brazilian women? Or Colombian women?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Hard to tell. I found brasilerinhas to be more "safadas" kinky I mean. Colombianas IMO have nicer faces bigger boobs and seem to be more sincere.
In your place I would try both countries. AVIANCA flies direct from Bogota to SAO. Used to fly to RIO too for a while but not anymore. No matter where you start from USA or Europe with an extra $50 or so you may have a stopover in Bogota on your way to SAO. From there is easy to reach RIO by bus too.
El Greco
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[QUOTE=Count Dante]You guys could be right. Maybe Colombiana former/current hookers living in Colombia are different from hookers in every other Latin American country. I'm just not willing to risk half of my assets to test the theory.
But let me ask a question I alluded to earlier. Other than her POSSIBLY being a little hotter, is there really any reason to marry a Colombian (current or former) prostitute over a "regular" Colombiana? I understand that some guys just "fall in love" with their favorita and if the majority of their time is spent with pros, it is easy to begin to see them as potential marriage material. I just wouldn't consider it when taking in to account all of the hot single women in the country who are not hookers.
I know a fair number of Colombianos living in the U. S and many of them know of the amount of time I spend in Latin America and my willingness to purchase a home there and live semi-permenantly. No less than 4 of them tried to hook me up with their cousin/neice/friend. These ladies AREN'T looking to move to "El Norte". They are beautiful, educated, successful, and SINGLE. Talking to guys living here that are dating "regular girls" only reinforces this perspective for me.
If you guys are successful marrying former pros, you have my most sincere congradulations. It just is not a rational option for me. Also, it comes down to traits that I find valuable in a long term partner. The majority of pros (current and former) just don't have them. However, I know everyone is different.
In a way, I REALLY, REALLY hope it is true what you guys are saying about Colombiana former pros. However, I feel that if it is true now, it may not hold true in 10-15 years, as more gringos come down and try to play "Captian Save-A-Hoe" by sending these girls WU checks every month and they realize that they can do better stringing 4 guys along than marrying and being faithful to 1.[/QUOTE]Amigo,
The bottom line is, you can´t group all pros as the same, just as you surely can´t group all non-pros as the same.
Of course some pros are money hungry, jaded chicas who will do whatever it takes to earn or steal another peso, that's obvious.
Then again there are some real sweethearts.
Some guys meet girls as pros that of course they never would have gotten to meet had it not been for the chica´s temporary job.
Big deal!
To be honest, the nastiest barracudas I've met in my travels haven't been the pros.
Good luck amigos !!
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[QUOTE=Jergens007]What up guys?
I am planning my next South American excursion In November. Its either Argentina or Brazil. I am leaning towards Brazil because I love their culture, music, food.
As far as women is concern, I into more of the light skinned Paisa types, I like big boobs, big booty, I admit, I do like them plastic. I love women with figures of Kim Kardashian, Sofia Vegara. You get the idea!
I know in Sao Paulo, you have more the lighter skinned european types.
Where as in Rio de Janerio have a good mixture of everything and alot of big bundas! =)
Help me out guys. Colombian women are hot as hell, they met beyond my expectations! I know Brazil is up there too! From my personal preference, that I stated. Who do you think I would like better. Brazilian women? Or Colombian women?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Well, funny thing you ask!
I'm in Brazil at the moment. Don't have time right now to make the comparison. Got a lunch date!
I'll get back to that topic later today!
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[QUOTE=Jergens007]Col Bog 1,
Damn! Good pick! She is hot!
I would love to pound her ass! Great video too!
Where is Barra ejecutiva is that new casa? I didn't hear of this place when I'm down there. Is it upscale like Loutron and Fase 2?[/QUOTE]Hi Jergens007,
Thanks for the good word.
Barra ejecutiva is in the Calle Maracaibo, between the Oriental and the centre.
You can't miss it.
It's a strip place, in the same street you have American Bar, and another one. If you turn left after american bar going toward the centre, you'll find some more places like that.
You get in and have a public strip show. You sit down and order a drink and can enjoy strip all night long.
Girls will probably try to make contact with you and ask you for a drink and then talk business.
These places in Maracaibo street are not upscale like Fase 2, and they are not as big as The San Diego place, but they are cheaper.
It's fun, but, for the moment, I have bad experiences there as the girls only want you to finish fast, so they can go back to the strip.
Have fun.
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MY preference is Columbia, but Brazil isi not bad at all. These are both great places. I would rather have these two to chose from then say Uk and France.
Fitz
[QUOTE=Jergens007]What up guys?
I am planning my next South American excursion In November. Its either Argentina or Brazil. I am leaning towards Brazil because I love their culture, music, food.
As far as women is concern, I into more of the light skinned Paisa types, I like big boobs, big booty, I admit, I do like them plastic. I love women with figures of Kim Kardashian, Sofia Vegara. You get the idea!
I know in Sao Paulo, you have more the lighter skinned european types.
Where as in Rio de Janerio have a good mixture of everything and alot of big bundas! =)
Help me out guys. Colombian women are hot as hell, they met beyond my expectations! I know Brazil is up there too! From my personal preference, that I stated. Who do you think I would like better. Brazilian women? Or Colombian women?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
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Setting up shop in Laurelas
Laurelas is a neighborhood that is Strata 4/5. It has a main street referred as La Setenta (70th Street) and it stretches from the Metro, which is 5 stops from Centro to the Univercity. I spent 4 nights there in a chica friendly hotel. The small room was 113,000 for 1 or 133,000 for 2. The suite was 133,000 for 1 or 165,000 for 2. All guests must sign in.
The metro was 1,400 pesos one way.
I saw a few Hotels that were in the 70,000 range as well as the 250,000 range. There are plenty of markets around as well.
They have free internet and free breakfast. There are about 10 other hotels on that street as well as many dozens of restaurants and bars.
There are a few casas within walking distance and Avenue 33 is nearby as well, with 3 casas located there.
I ate in about 8 restaurants including a Mexican Restaurant. The owner spoke English and spent a few years in Mexico.
This is a very active area with people out well past midnight.
I will be back in June for a week with a few buddies. I am getting two suites that connect and the wing has 6 rooms next to one another. Its about 40 minutes from the airport.
I will locate and insert the link. They require 1 nights deposit and they take credit cards without any kind of surcharge.
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[QUOTE=Count Dante]But let me ask a question I alluded to earlier. Other than her POSSIBLY being a little hotter, is there really any reason to marry a Colombian (current or former) prostitute over a "regular" Colombiana? I understand that some guys just "fall in love" with their favorita and if the majority of their time is spent with pros, it is easy to begin to see them as potential marriage material. I just wouldn't consider it when taking in to account all of the hot single women in the country who are not hookers.[/QUOTE]Most non-working girls wouldn't be caught dead with a gringo in Colombia for fear of being taken for a hooker. There's a reason many of the hookers don't work where they live. They travel from a ways away so their family, friends and people that know them can't run into them in strip clubs, chongos and like the like. With that said, the odds of landing a non-working girl is far less likely than you make it sound, in my opinion.
And I've seen that cycle repeated in many countries in central and south america. I live in Quito, Ecuador and it's certainly true here. It's hard to get girls into the sack. They are very conservative here.
David
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[QUOTE=Jergens007]Help me out guys. Colombian women are hot as hell, they met beyond my expectations! I know Brazil is up there too! From my personal preference, that I stated. Who do you think I would like better. Brazilian women? Or Colombian women?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Been both places many times. The women of Brasil and Colombia are both great, the best in LatAm! Since you have been to Colombia already, go visit Brasil. Split you time between Sao Paulo and Rio. Weekdays in Sao Paulo because SP is great every night. Weekends in Rio are fun.
SP and Rio are both like big cities in the US when it comes to getting in the top clubs. Tight door policies.- but once you are in there, you are GOLDEN.
If you are staying at one of the nicer hotels like the Emiliano (where I usually stay), Unique (haven't tried), Hyatt (good location b/c my old office was nearby), etc. They can usually get you on the list. If you are on ASW, then work that connection (if you don't know what it is, then nevermind, LOL).
The food in Colombia doesn't hold a candle to Brasil. Nightlife in Brasil is better. The women are about the same, but to me the women of Brasil exude much more sensual vibes. The way they speak Portuguese drives me insane, it is so sexy! Most importantly, all women I have met in Brasil aim to please. Not always so with the Colombianas.
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It is all pink
When lucky enough to develope love for another truely is a blessing and we cannot fight the feeling.
Is the ever a reason to "Marry" other than love. Prosti or not; unless love is involved it is all pink.
Prosti (the rich or the poor) deserves the romance and real love as well as any oher.
The cousin/neice/friend is either looking for sugar or a ride north. When you think of the difference in earning and the ease of world travel. Check th motives!
[QUOTE=Count Dante]You guys could be right. Maybe Colombiana former/current hookers living in Colombia are different from hookers in every other Latin American country. I'm just not willing to risk half of my assets to test the theory.
But let me ask a question I alluded to earlier. Other than her POSSIBLY being a little hotter, is there really any reason to marry a Colombian (current or former) prostitute over a "regular" Colombiana? I understand that some guys just "fall in love" with their favorita and if the majority of their time is spent with pros, it is easy to begin to see them as potential marriage material. I just wouldn't consider it when taking in to account all of the hot single women in the country who are not hookers.
I know a fair number of Colombianos living in the U. S and many of them know of the amount of time I spend in Latin America and my willingness to purchase a home there and live semi-permenantly. No less than 4 of them tried to hook me up with their cousin/neice/friend. These ladies AREN'T looking to move to "El Norte". They are beautiful, educated, successful, and SINGLE. Talking to guys living here that are dating "regular girls" only reinforces this perspective for me.
If you guys are successful marrying former pros, you have my most sincere congradulations. It just is not a rational option for me. Also, it comes down to traits that I find valuable in a long term partner. The majority of pros (current and former) just don't have them. However, I know everyone is different.
In a way, I REALLY, REALLY hope it is true what you guys are saying about Colombiana former pros. However, I feel that if it is true now, it may not hold true in 10-15 years, as more gringos come down and try to play "Captian Save-A-Hoe" by sending these girls WU checks every month and they realize that they can do better stringing 4 guys along than marrying and being faithful to 1. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Most non-working girls wouldn't be caught dead with a gringo in Colombia for fear of being taken for a hooker. There's a reason many of the hookers don't work where they live. They travel from a ways away so their family, friends and people that know them can't run into them in strip clubs, chongos and like the like. With that said, the odds of landing a non-working girl is far less likely than you make it sound, in my opinion.
And I've seen that cycle repeated in many countries in central and south america. I live in Quito, Ecuador and it's certainly true here. It's hard to get girls into the sack. They are very conservative here.
David[/QUOTE]I completely disagree. There are endless Latinas, including Colombianas, that love to date Gringos and would love to marry a Gringo. In fact, Florida is full of such Latinas. Only a very small percentage of them are prostitutes.
There are also Latinas that would rather slit their wrists than date a Gringo. Of course, that can change instantly upon meeting the "right" Gringo.
I do agree that Latinas, especially Colombianas, are very image-conscious. That's a good thing. Any Gringo in Colombia known or rumored to spend most of his time with prostitutes will indeed have some difficulty with non-prostitutes. Colombians love to gossip, especially about Gringos. Gringos in Colombia need to be more discrete and more image-conscious if they have any interest in non-prostitutes.
Most Latinas in most parts of Latin America are not sexually conservative whatsoever. They will try to convince you that they are, especially if a Gringo seems to have outdated sexual attitudes. In particular, Latinas in the most popular countries (Colombia, Argentina, etc.) are not sexually conservative whatsoever.
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[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Most non-working girls wouldn't be caught dead with a gringo in Colombia for fear of being taken for a hooker.[/QUOTE]Funny, I recently had an interesting experience with this issue. There is a flip side to it also, I have discovered that many colombianas are catty and will spread rumors of other colombianas who date gringos as being prepagos. It's definitely a jealousy/"not letting someone else upgrade" kind of thing.
Yeah, it is interesting to her the various views of colombians as more and more gringos swim in their waters. I can only guess that colombian men don't dig, or better despise, gringos who come here to date/marry/hook up/bang their women.
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[QUOTE=Count Dante]As a side note, I think the same can be said of men who frequent prostitutes (namely, us). How commited and faithful a husband can I be, knowing that I can have sex with a 18 year old gorgeous girl whenever I want, no matter how old I get. The temptation for new pussy is just to strong.[/QUOTE]Man, that is some deep shit. I'm wrestling with that same fricken issue, how can I be faithful knowing hot pussy is available on the fly down here? Heck, it's gotta be something colombian men deal with too ... but you gotta be a master at keeping from getting caught/raising suspicions?
Any tips from others? I recently had a near-hit and have to develop plans and patterns to be more stealthy, e.g., no multi-dating non-pros, just quick pro visits; getting a separate prepago SIM card; find a inexpensive hotel room you can operate out of during business hours, etc.
Thanks for any tips in advance!
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[QUOTE=Client 9]I completely disagree. There are endless Latinas, including Colombianas, that love to date Gringos and would love to marry a Gringo. In fact, Florida is full of such Latinas. Only a very small percentage of them are prostitutes.
Most Latinas in most parts of Latin America are not sexually conservative whatsoever. They will try to convince you that they are, especially if a Gringo seems to have outdated sexual attitudes. In particular, Latinas in the most popular countries (Colombia, Argentina, etc.) are not sexually conservative whatsoever.[/QUOTE]My comment was directed at Colombianas in Colombia. I was not talking about Florida (re-read my original post).
I said chicks in Ecuador are conservative. I've been in many countries where they aren't conservative too, however, that's not what I said.
David
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[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Most non-working girls wouldn't be caught dead with a gringo in Colombia for fear of being taken for a hooker.[/QUOTE]That's certainly not true!
I've met so many that would love to meet a nice gringo.
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Reality Check
[QUOTE=Davidb3069]My comment was directed at Colombianas in Colombia. I was not talking about Florida (re-read my original post).
David[/QUOTE]Alright, I re-read your original post. In your original post you state, quote, "Most non-working girls wouldn't be caught dead with a gringo in Colombia for fear of being taken for a hooker. "
I'm sorry, David, but I still completely disagree. If there is another country where it is easier to date beautiful non-prostitutes than it is in Colombia, then I would love to know what country it is. I would be happy to start going there. I'm a pragmatist.
In my opinion, Colombia is the absolute easiest place on Planet Earth to date beautiful non-prostitutes.
And it doesn't stop in Colombia. Even in Florida, Colombianas want to date and marry Gringos. Very few of them are prostitutes or ex-prostitutes. Colombianas do become somewhat more selective after arriving here, but they still want to date and marry Gringos.
Most non-prostitutes in Colombia love to date and marry Gringos.
However, it is true that non-prostitutes in Colombia will avoid Gringos known (or rumored) to spend most of their time with prostitutes.
It is also true that non-prostitutes in Colombia do not want to be seen dating Gringo after Gringo after Gringo. However, most Colombianas have never dated even one Gringo. Many Colombianas have never even met a Gringo.
It is your opinion that "most non-working girls wouldn't be caught dead with a gringo in Colombia for fear of being taken for a hooker. " It is my opinion that non-prostitutes in Colombia love to date and marry Gringos.
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[QUOTE=Tom Cruze]Man, that is some deep shit. I'm wrestling with that same fricken issue, how can I be faithful knowing hot pussy is available on the fly down here? Heck, it's gotta be something colombian men deal with too ... but you gotta be a master at keeping from getting caught/raising suspicions?
Any tips from others? I recently had a near-hit and have to develop plans and patterns to be more stealthy, e.g., no multi-dating non-pros, just quick pro visits; getting a separate prepago SIM card; find a inexpensive hotel room you can operate out of during business hours, etc.
Thanks for any tips in advance![/QUOTE]The point of marriage is being faithful to one person (or perhaps that's a concept that's been lost). If someone isn't ready for that step, they should stay single, in my opinion. The best of both worlds is if you have a girl that is willing to play with other girls - with you. And then you're not dodging bullets. I wouldn't like myself much if I had to lie to my wife about where I'm traveling to and why just so I could cheat on her.
David
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[QUOTE=Client 9]I'm sorry, David, but I still completely disagree. If there is another country where it is easier to date beautiful non-prostitutes than it is in Colombia, then I would love to know what country it is. I would be happy to start going there. I'm a pragmatist.[/QUOTE]I love the saying "agree to disagree."
David
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[QUOTE=Client 9]Alright, I re-read your original post. In your original post you state, quote, "Most non-working girls wouldn't be caught dead with a gringo in Colombia for fear of being taken for a hooker. "
I'm sorry, David, but I still completely disagree. If there is another country where it is easier to date beautiful non-prostitutes than it is in Colombia, then I would love to know what country it is. I would be happy to start going there. I'm a pragmatist.
In my opinion, Colombia is the absolute easiest place on Planet Earth to date beautiful non-prostitutes.
And it doesn't stop in Colombia. Even in Florida, Colombianas want to date and marry Gringos. Very few of them are prostitutes or ex-prostitutes. Colombianas do become somewhat more selective after arriving here, but they still want to date and marry Gringos.
Most non-prostitutes in Colombia love to date and marry Gringos.
However, it is true that non-prostitutes in Colombia will avoid Gringos known (or rumored) to spend most of their time with prostitutes.
It is also true that non-prostitutes in Colombia do not want to be seen dating Gringo after Gringo after Gringo. However, most Colombianas have never dated even one Gringo. Many Colombianas have never even met a Gringo.
It is your opinion that "most non-working girls wouldn't be caught dead with a gringo in Colombia for fear of being taken for a hooker. " It is my opinion that non-prostitutes in Colombia love to date and marry Gringos.[/QUOTE]Right on amigo! It's so obvious that it's not even worth debating really.
I'd also give first place to Colombia, followed by Brazil (Sao Paulo) and then Venezuela.
Good luck!!
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David,
You have much more experience in Colombia than I do. However, your info about non-working girls not wanting to be seen with gringos is the exact opposite of what virtually every gringo I have met who has spent extended time in Colombia has told me.
Most of the Americans I know that have spent a lot of time in Colombia are non-mongers and don't know about my P4P activities down there. I've got several friends that went to Colombia to study Spanish. Others went down there for work. These were non-mongers between 27-43 years old. They were getting more ass than a toliet seat. They kept telling me about how wonderful the dating scene is there. They weren't dating putas or prepagos, but educated, working, attractive women. Other Guys that I met down in Colombia were frequently going out on dates with beautiful (non prostitute) Colombianas.
If there is a HUGE age disparity between the two (he is 65 and she is 18-25) I can see how people might think negatively of her, but that would be true in the U.S. too. I've heard a lot of non-mongers complain about living or spending a lot of time in Colombia. I have never heard any of the guys complain about not being able to find a date.
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[QUOTE=Client 9]It is my opinion that non-prostitutes in Colombia love to date and marry Gringos.[/QUOTE]Sure, why not with the "nice" and "rich" gringo perception we enjoy there. Whether real or contrived, it's certainly a positive image that the chicas buy into wholesale. The rather huge disparity in the quality of life, monetarily speaking, between their reality and ours makes the gringo novelty all the more attractive. If Latin America were on equal economic terms, I suspect it would be nowhere near the adult disneyland that it is now. An even playing field, if you will. See the US and any number of the other first world economies for a reality check.
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This is a first for me. My post was deleted for 1. Being a waste of bandwith and 2. Having included professionally produced photos.
1. The words I posted spoke of giving a girl money for love. How is this not keeping in check with what mongers do which is the subject of finding women for sex?
2. Thanks for the pat on my back that the pictures were of a professional nature but as I stated in my post, the pictures included were that of a Colombiana. Did I have to say EXACTLY how and where I found her and how many times I banged her etc....? And what the heck Admin, are you new to the monitoring of the board? You've never seen any other of my posts or pictures? Don't you know that I go to great pains to post only the best line of photos I take. Yes I, me, myself did take these pictures. I'd hardly say that the Nikon D50 I used is professonal standard (rather lower grade in the pro world). I just make sure the subjects I photograph are worth photographing.
Whatever, (no cheers in this case)
Cubanut
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Who are the Madames at Loutrons?
Hey dudes!
Does anyone of you guys know who are the 2 hot ass madames at Loutrons?
Yes, the 2 hot hostess that greets you when you arrive at Loutrons.
One is blonde and one is a brunette. They both have big booty, big boobs, and beautiful face.
I think the brunette is name Deanna. Etc. And the blonde one. I don't remember. Any of you guys know their story? Were the pros at one point? Tied with the mafia?
Have any of you guys tried to hook up with them? Ha ha ha ha
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Ever been to Pablo Escobars villa?
Has anyone been to pablo escobars villa? The hacienda napoles
[url]http://haciendanapoles.com/[/url]
I believe its a zoo now. I don't understand spanish. If someone can translate please do so.
I really want to visit his villa next time I'm in Medellin.
Let me know if you guys been there? How much does it cost? And transporation to get there.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Rippp]Sure, why not with the "nice" and "rich" gringo perception we enjoy there. Whether real or contrived, it's certainly a positive image that the chicas buy into wholesale. The rather huge disparity in the quality of life, monetarily speaking, between their reality and ours makes the gringo novelty all the more attractive. If Latin America were on equal economic terms, I suspect it would be nowhere near the adult disneyland that it is now. An even playing field, if you will. See the US and any number of the other first world economies for a reality check.[/QUOTE]Exactly.
There is a certain reality that latinas find foreigners more attractive and vice-versa. It's the same reason why I would never have married an american chick - they are boring to me. Then throw the higher economic status in there (or perceived) and you've got a great formula.
The part I find difficult is it's very hard to know if someone is "real" or not. It takes a long time with that person to give them a chance to show their real colors. If money is their real motivation (or an aspiration) and they are just smarter than the average chick there, then the guys are in for a surprise.
David
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[QUOTE=Count Dante]David,
You have much more experience in Colombia than I do. However, your info about non-working girls not wanting to be seen with gringos is the exact opposite of what virtually every gringo I have met who has spent extended time in Colombia has told me.
Most of the Americans I know that have spent a lot of time in Colombia are non-mongers and don't know about my P4P activities down there. I've got several friends that went to Colombia to study Spanish. Others went down there for work. These were non-mongers between 27-43 years old. They were getting more ass than a toliet seat. They kept telling me about how wonderful the dating scene is there. They weren't dating putas or prepagos, but educated, working, attractive women. Other Guys that I met down in Colombia were frequently going out on dates with beautiful (non prostitute) Colombianas.
If there is a HUGE age disparity between the two (he is 65 and she is 18-25) I can see how people might think negatively of her, but that would be true in the U.S. too. I've heard a lot of non-mongers complain about living or spending a lot of time in Colombia. I have never heard any of the guys complain about not being able to find a date.[/QUOTE]If guys are having great luck there in the dating scene, I would attribute it to a few things:
1) The chicks perceive the guys as being a long-term option rather than a fast in and out tourist;
2) The chicks don't perceive the guys as being mongers;
3) The guys aren't acting like mongers and doing monger activities;
Like it or not, word spreads very fast about the activities of mongers. The girls can ask a few friends and likely get the scoop on someone. In Cartagena (Laguito), forget trying to stay anonymous with what you do. People up and down those streets know your business (especially around LDV).
I'd be curious to know the truth of how many of those "working, educated" girls have turned tricks before or do it on the side if money is needed. If they are putting out that easily, I would suspect they got broken in someplace. I have been with a few of those "educated" girls too, but they were paying for their schooling by turning tricks. And they were young.
David
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Exactly!
[QUOTE=Count Dante]I've got several friends that went to Colombia to study Spanish. Others went down there for work.[/QUOTE]Exactly! It is best to have a pretext for being in Colombia. Foreign tourism is growing slightly in Colombia during the tenure of Uribe, but foreign tourism to Colombia is still minimal.
Do not say that you are "on vacation" in Colombia. How many Japanese families go "on vacation" to Colombia? How many German women go "on vacation" to Colombia? You need a pretext for being in Colombia.
If you don't have a pretext for being in Colombia, some will assume you are a desperate Gringo looking for prostitutes and prepagos.
The best route for meeting Latinas in every country that I have visited in Latin America is to study Spanish at a language institute or university. EAFIT in Medellin is a goldmine, and Universidad del Norte in Barranquilla is even better. There are countless Colombianas studying English and only a handful of Gringos studying Spanish.
Also, any of the "Colombo" centers are all excellent places.
It's just that easy. Of course, it does require time and money.
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More Reality
[quote=rippp]sure, why not with the "nice" and "rich" gringo perception we enjoy there. whether real or contrived, it's certainly a positive image that the chicas buy into wholesale. the rather huge disparity in the quality of life, monetarily speaking, between their reality and ours makes the gringo novelty all the more attractive. if latin america were on equal economic terms, i suspect it would be nowhere near the adult disneyland that it is now. an even playing field, if you will. see the us and any number of the other first world economies for a reality check. [/quote]it's not just in colombia. florida is a great pond to fish for latinas, including colombianas. florida is a good pond. colombia is a really, really, really good pond.
do colombianas become more selective after arriving in florida? of course. but most of them still want to meet, date and marry gringos. however, the colombianas are able to be more selective in florida. likewise, i am more selective in colombia than i am in florida.
it's all a question of supply and demand.
of course, there are colombianas that would rather slit their wrists than date a gringo. however, that can change instantly when that colombiana meets the "right" gringo.
in medellin, you will hear many women make racist comments. and you know what? if will smith and tiger woods were to enter a medellin dance club, they would need machetes to scrape the piles of beautiful women off of themselves!
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[QUOTE=Client 9]If you don't have a pretext for being in Colombia, some will assume you are a desperate Gringo looking for prostitutes and prepagos.[/QUOTE]Uh. Who cares what people think or assume? It's none of their business. I travel to those countries to enjoy myself - if I'm worried about what people think, I should stay home.
David
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[QUOTE=Client 9]Do Colombianas become more selective after arriving in Florida? Of course. But most of them still want to meet, date and marry Gringos. However, the Colombianas are able to be more selective in Florida. Likewise, I am more selective in Colombia than I am in Florida.[/QUOTE]This is not the Florida forum. This is the place to discuss Colombia.
David
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Unavailable?
[QUOTE=Jergens007]Hey dudes!
Does anyone of you guys know who are the 2 hot ass madames at Loutrons?
Yes, the 2 hot hostess that greets you when you arrive at Loutrons.
One is blonde and one is a brunette. They both have big booty, big boobs, and beautiful face.
I think the brunette is name Deanna. Etc. And the blonde one. I don't remember. Any of you guys know their story? Were the pros at one point? Tied with the mafia?
Have any of you guys tried to hook up with them? Ha ha ha ha[/QUOTE]One of my trips to Loutrons I met the blonde (dyed) madame and thought she was hotter than the available line-up. So, when she asked which girl I wanted, I half-jokingly asked if she was available.
She DID NOT think that was even funny and asked my again, in a not-so-nice tone of voice which girl I wanted. So I left it at that.
After my session, I asked my cabbie Alejandro who the Madame was and, according to him, she was indeed at one time a working girl who married a rich client and then became the owner. According to him, her husband is connected and so is she.
Anyone can confirm this? Ironically, I thought the blonde and the brunette madames were WAY hotter than any of the too-young girls in the line-up. Even if they're tetas y culos are totally siloconas.
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[quote=client 9]it's not just in colombia. florida is a great pond to fish for latinas, including colombianas. florida is a good pond. colombia is a really, really, really good pond.
do colombianas become more selective after arriving in florida? of course. but most of them still want to meet, date and marry gringos. however, the colombianas are able to be more selective in florida. likewise, i am more selective in colombia than i am in florida.
it's all a question of supply and demand.
of course, there are colombianas that would rather slit their wrists than date a gringo. however, that can change instantly when that colombiana meets the "right" gringo.
in medellin, you will hear many women make racist comments. and you know what? if will smith and tiger woods were to enter a medellin dance club, they would need machetes to scrape the piles of beautiful women off of themselves![/quote]destitute, fresh off the barco (fob) florida tang is a weak argument bro.
reality is gonna bite you in the ass.
let's just say, you have the classic gringo monger mentality.
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[QUOTE=Client 9]Do Colombianas become more selective after arriving in Florida? Of course. But most of them still want to meet, date and marry Gringos. However, the Colombianas are able to be more selective in Florida. Likewise, I am more selective in Colombia than I am in Florida.[/QUOTE]Hmmmmm. I have a few rules I follow for dating these latinas.
The most important one. Keep them in their native country.
Boy do they change when they hit the US. I know I'm generalizing, but I've seen it many times with friends of mine.
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Where is Mayorista Area
Could someone provide the streets/cross streets for the Mayorista Area?
Thanks
Noq
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A day trip to Santa fe de Antioquia
So I was sitting around thinking that I needed to expand my horizons and Santa Fe would do the trick. The Plumber and I had found two Paisas that we linked so we arranged a taxi for a day trip here. The total cost would be 200,000 and it was from 10am - 5pm.
We had a great meal, checked out a few smaller towns and Hotels along the way.
I plan on returning in the near future.
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Be The Fisherman, Not The Fish
[QUOTE=Davidb3069]If guys are having great luck there in the dating scene, I would attribute it to a few things:
1) The chicks perceive the guys as being a long-term option rather than a fast in and out tourist;
2) The chicks don't perceive the guys as being mongers;
3) The guys aren't acting like mongers and doing monger activities;
Like it or not, word spreads very fast about the activities of mongers. The girls can ask a few friends and likely get the scoop on someone. In Cartagena (Laguito), forget trying to stay anonymous with what you do. People up and down those streets know your business (especially around LDV).
I'd be curious to know the truth of how many of those "working, educated" girls have turned tricks before or do it on the side if money is needed. If they are putting out that easily, I would suspect they got broken in someplace. I have been with a few of those "educated" girls too, but they were paying for their schooling by turning tricks. And they were young.
David[/QUOTE]While I didn't agree with some other comments by David, I certainly agree with everything David says here. For some reason, a lot of Gringos leave their common sense at the airport in Miami. I like Colombianas, but I don't put them on a pedestal. In Colombia, you need a healthy dose of skepticism. Colombianas are experts at telling guys what they want to hear, and some are good actresses. Determining the sincerity of Colombianas isn't that difficult, however.
Plain and simple, you should be looking for Colombianas that aren't looking for Gringos.
Non-prostitutes are a "no pain, no gain" situation in Colombia. Most Gringos are lazy and naive. Most Gringos date Colombianas they meet from the dating sites, marriage agencies, dance clubs known to be popular with Gringos, poolside at luxury hotels, etc. I hate to shatter the egos of some Gringos, but most of those Colombianas are prepagos.
I highly recommend you assume that such women are prepagos. Just because they don't charge you, doesn't mean they don't charge other guys.
I am not saying not to date such women. They can be a lot of fun. However, don't be naive. Recognize the type of woman that you are dating with both eyes wide open.
If you truly want a serious relationship with a Colombiana, then look for a Colombiana that isn't looking for Gringos. Be the fisherman, not the fish.
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Who cares?
[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Uh. Who cares what people think or assume? It's none of their business. I travel to those countries to enjoy myself - if I'm worried about what people think, I should stay home.
David[/QUOTE]David, you made my point better than I ever could. If you haven't noticed, some here are interested in dating non-prostitutes. They need to care what others think. Your attitude explains your poor results with non-prostitutes and your jaded perspective.
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Those In Glass Houses....
[QUOTE=Davidb3069]This is not the Florida forum. This is the place to discuss Colombia.
David[/QUOTE]You're right. It is the Colombia forum, and I am discussing Colombianas.
Why have you been discussing Ecuador in the Colombia forum?
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Even More Reality
[QUOTE=Rippp]Destitute, Fresh off the barco (FOB) Florida tang is a weak argument bro.
Reality is gonna bite you in the ass.
Let's just say, you have the classic gringo monger mentality.[/QUOTE]Obviously you don't live in Florida. There are plenty of Latinas, including Colombianas, in Florida that are not destitute. Many have citizenship or legal status. Believe it or not, there are Colombianas from wealthy families in Florida.
I'm not the one with the monger mentality. It is unfortunate that some Gringos have no self-confidence. That lack of self-confidence is the hallmark of the monger mentality.
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[QUOTE=Ricker]Hmmmmm. I have a few rules I follow for dating these latinas.
The most important one. Keep them in their native country.
Boy do they change when they hit the US. I know I'm generalizing, but I've seen it many times with friends of mine.[/QUOTE]Ricker,
I'm not talking about importing. I am talking about Colombianas that already are citizens or have legal status in the U. S.
I know many Gringos that complain that they were "burned" by a Colombiana that they imported from Colombia. In most cases, those Gringos refuse to acknowledge the truth. The truth is that they don't speak Spanish, they impulsively married a Colombiana after a very short time period and they married a Colombiana that was a prostitute or prepago.
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Does anyone know any of the "**************" girls?
I'm talking about Milkymaria, Aria Valentino, Paris Milan, Chloe Veria, Tatiana La Vega and many more.
Some of them with their own websites and others in the different sites under the first address. Chloe, for sure, is from Medellin. Most of the others, I believe, are also paisas. A prosperous porn industry. Maybe some of us could fulfill the fantasy of actually fucking a pornstar. Oyeloca and pacinosadventures fans will know that the mansion and VIP have held some of these cuties (Juana, Jazmin) among their cast. But the first ladys are more my type - thick, busty, and downright wild.
Thanks beforehand for any info.
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[QUOTE=Client 9]Ricker,
I'm not talking about importing. I am talking about Colombianas that already are citizens or have legal status in the U. S.
I know many Gringos that complain that they were "burned" by a Colombiana that they imported from Colombia. In most cases, those Gringos refuse to acknowledge the truth. The truth is that they don't speak Spanish, they impulsively married a Colombiana after a very short time period and they married a Colombiana that was a prostitute or prepago.[/QUOTE]I agree with you amigo. I've seen these guys burned too.
I think the big factors being the lack of communication ability and relative short time knowing eachother.
To be honest though, most of the disasters I've seen have been with the non-pro type chica.
Couple guys I know met chicas on the internet. Neither guy speaks spanish.
They go to Colombia, meet their girls. Visit a few more times.
Get a fiancee visa, get married.
Six months to a year later ... Disaster.
I remember sitting next to one guy's new esposa on a flight to Cali.
By chance, we were both heading back to Cali for a visit. My buddy had to stay behind for work in the US.
All she did was ***** ***** *****. What happened to the sweetheart in her ??
And my friend, she was a regular chica ... an architect.
Speaking of Colombianas that are already citizens or legal in the US.
Well normally it's because they come from families with money.
I personally avoid them, they're usually the most spoiled of all.
My buddy dates one of them in Miami. What a pain in the butt she is.
I even dated a Colombiana from a well to do family in Miami at one time.
She was really beautiful, I was weak and stupid at the time :)
Oh my God what a spoiled little princess brat, and how she treated regular working people like crap.
Never again for me, whether they live in US or Colombia, I avoid the rich, spoiled brats.
I know that I'm generalizing again.
Just my observations from a lot of experience.
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[QUOTE=Client 9]While I didn't agree with some other comments by David, I certainly agree with everything David says here. For some reason, a lot of Gringos leave their common sense at the airport in Miami. I like Colombianas, but I don't put them on a pedestal. In Colombia, you need a healthy dose of skepticism. Colombianas are experts at telling guys what they want to hear, and some are good actresses. Determining the sincerity of Colombianas isn't that difficult, however.
Plain and simple, you should be looking for Colombianas that aren't looking for Gringos.
Non-prostitutes are a "no pain, no gain" situation in Colombia. Most Gringos are lazy and naive. Most Gringos date Colombianas they meet from the dating sites, marriage agencies, dance clubs known to be popular with Gringos, poolside at luxury hotels, etc. I hate to shatter the egos of some Gringos, but most of those Colombianas are prepagos.
I highly recommend you assume that such women are prepagos. Just because they don't charge you, doesn't mean they don't charge other guys.
I am not saying not to date such women. They can be a lot of fun. However, don't be naive. Recognize the type of woman that you are dating with both eyes wide open.
If you truly want a serious relationship with a Colombiana, then look for a Colombiana that isn't looking for Gringos. Be the fisherman, not the fish.[/QUOTE]Good advice amigo!
Nothing like dating chicas who collect their monthly Western Union money from their other boyfriends :)
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[QUOTE=Client 9]Obviously you don't live in Florida. There are plenty of Latinas, including Colombianas, in Florida that are not destitute. Many have citizenship or legal status. Believe it or not, there are Colombianas from wealthy families in Florida.
I'm not the one with the monger mentality. It is unfortunate that some Gringos have no self-confidence. That lack of self-confidence is the hallmark of the monger mentality.[/QUOTE]The point is not about getting desperate, vulnerable tang who are looking for a green card and a "life" with the media romanticzed gringo, which main stream media has put on a pedestal for as long as these chicas have been alive. Imagine that. This lifetime brainwashing, if you will, has given the chicas some pretty wacked, Hollywood imagery of the gringo. I have live in S. FL and sure, it's a hopping "pond", as you so eloquently put but let's be honest here, 99% of the "wide open" florida tang, fall into the FOB category, with almost certain prepago/puta baggage. 2nd gen "normal" Cubana tang, you say? Ok, but if that's your thing, then ask yourself why you like foreign, less jaded, tang in the first place. It's about getting the quote, "normal" chica, without the economic disparty equation, without any expectations from either party. Painfully obvious, this is what you are referring to regarding Florida tang. It's obvious you have quite the romanticed view, read naive, view of these chicas and if you're gonna believe what these few "legal", "not destitute" chicas tell you, the more power to you bro. These chicas lie their ass off, it's an inherent and necessary trait in their situtation, who can blame them. So the moral of this story is that finding that "normal" chica without the puta past is quite elusive, if not an entire pipe dream. Sure, hell, you might be one of those guys that constantly fall for these chicas and completely disregard any past puta and all the other baggage. Read. War brides throughout history. Not at all dissimilar.
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[QUOTE=Client 9]David, you made my point better than I ever could. If you haven't noticed, some here are interested in dating non-prostitutes. They need to care what others think. Your attitude explains your poor results with non-prostitutes and your jaded perspective.[/QUOTE]I'd say it's just the opposite. What people think of me is none of my business. It's a healthy attitude. It means I have self-esteem and don't need the approval of others to feel better about myself.
I didn't have a lack of luck with non-pros. I simply didn't care to put in the effort to win them over. If I wanted to put in that effort, I'd move back to the states (Yes, I am from Florida, born and raised). Honestly, I find non-working girls about as exciting as watching paint dry. About the same with American girls.
Catch a working girl before she's been enveloped by the life and it's possible to still find some keepers. I married mine.
David
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[QUOTE=Client 9]Ricker,
I'm not talking about importing. I am talking about Colombianas that already are citizens or have legal status in the U. S.
I know many Gringos that complain that they were "burned" by a Colombiana that they imported from Colombia. In most cases, those Gringos refuse to acknowledge the truth. The truth is that they don't speak Spanish, they impulsively married a Colombiana after a very short time period and they married a Colombiana that was a prostitute or prepago.[/QUOTE]As far as I'm concerned, a nationalized or legalized Colombiana in the US is no better than any other chick in the US. They might be prettier but they are quickly transformed into the US chicks that I can't stand.
Anyone hoping to get lucky bringing any foreigner (latina, asian, etc.) back to the US to be the perfect wife is fighting an uphill battle. They will change rapidly and become Americanized. As someone else said, keep them in their home country.
Anyone that doesn't speak Spanish well enough to grow a relationship is asking for trouble. If Communication is a key to marriage, you're already behind in the game from the start.
Being impulsive in marriage is certainly not a attribute unique to marrying Colombians. Plenty of Americans marrying Americans fall into the same category. This is certainly nothing unique to this situation.
Many prepagos or hookers turn out to be good wives if they haven't embraced the lifestyle. I've seen many turn out to be good catches. The key to the whole thing is how long they've done it and why they were doing it. Turning tricks to feed your kids but getting the heck out of the work when times improve doesn't make someone bad.
David
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[QUOTE=Client 9]Obviously you don't live in Florida. There are plenty of Latinas, including Colombianas, in Florida that are not destitute. Many have citizenship or legal status. Believe it or not, there are Colombianas from wealthy families in Florida.
I'm not the one with the monger mentality. It is unfortunate that some Gringos have no self-confidence. That lack of self-confidence is the hallmark of the monger mentality.[/QUOTE]I am from Florida, born and raised, and my best friend is latino. I have had many friends (male and female) over the years that are latino (from many countries) and it's just not the same to me. Americanized "tang" as someone put it is spoiled "tang". If you want legalized Colombians and the pickings are so great, why not stay in Florida? What's the need to go to Colombia or discuss Colombia travels for the purpose of sex?
David
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[QUOTE=Client 9]While I didn't agree with some other comments by David, I certainly agree with everything David says here. For some reason, a lot of Gringos leave their common sense at the airport in Miami. I like Colombianas, but I don't put them on a pedestal. In Colombia, you need a healthy dose of skepticism. Colombianas are experts at telling guys what they want to hear, and some are good actresses. Determining the sincerity of Colombianas isn't that difficult, however.
Plain and simple, you should be looking for Colombianas that aren't looking for Gringos.
Non-prostitutes are a "no pain, no gain" situation in Colombia. Most Gringos are lazy and naive. Most Gringos date Colombianas they meet from the dating sites, marriage agencies, dance clubs known to be popular with Gringos, poolside at luxury hotels, etc. I hate to shatter the egos of some Gringos, but most of those Colombianas are prepagos.
I highly recommend you assume that such women are prepagos. Just because they don't charge you, doesn't mean they don't charge other guys.
I am not saying not to date such women. They can be a lot of fun. However, don't be naive. Recognize the type of woman that you are dating with both eyes wide open.
If you truly want a serious relationship with a Colombiana, then look for a Colombiana that isn't looking for Gringos. Be the fisherman, not the fish.[/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity, how's your luck going with a non-pro? I'm assuming you won't be traveling back to Colombia in the future because the prospects in Florida are so overwelming that there's no need.
You honestly sound like you have no or very little experience in Colombia. It sounds like you're repeating things people have told you. If that is the case, you have nothing to add to a discussion such as this because you have no experience.
David
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[QUOTE=Client 9]You're right. It is the Colombia forum, and I am discussing Colombianas.
Why have you been discussing Ecuador in the Colombia forum?[/QUOTE]I don't hijack discussions in the Colombian forums with talk of Ecuador. I make a quick suggestion every once in a great while to take a trip here to try something different and I drop it.
David
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End of my participation in this line of discussion
Sorry to those wanting to read about issues of Medillin. I'm guilty of partially hijacking this forum. There is no value in further discussing this issue in this forum.
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Deep Throat
I am going to Colombia at the end of the month.
Does anyone know a girl that deep throats?
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Another interesting thread but why does everything devolve into sniping and flame wars nowadays?
As for this idea of marrying or dating non-pros, just keep in mind there's a large gray area in Colombia regarding sex for money. First of all, practically every successful Colombian male has a mistress on the side. I'm sure money is part of that equation. Then you have the phenomena of "amigos con derechos". Friends with benefits. Not to mention the "grillas" and "prepagas" All of them involve sex/companionship with some level of financial support or maybe just gifts.
And girls move in and out of these arrangements as their life and financial circumstances change. One girl I met at Lejano Oriente claimed she used to work at a bank making 4 million COP a month until she got laid off/fired.
Also, I suspect there's quite a bit more hanky-panky and screwing around amongst the general population in Colombia than in the states. It would help explain why there's so many beautiful women. It can't just be the altitude and the climate.
And that brings up the issue how important is fidelity to you? Can you handle the fact that your Colombian girlfriend/fiance/wife is likely screwing other men when you're not around?
I've reached a point in my life where it wouldn't bother me that much but I'd bet many guys would freak out. If you can't mentally handle the gray areas and the uncertainties, then Colombia is not for you. Stick with what you know in the states.
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[QUOTE=Cubanut]Mmmm,
2. Thanks for the pat on my back that the pictures were of a professional nature but as I stated in my post, the pictures included were that of a Colombiana. Did I have to say EXACTLY how and where I found her and how many times I banged her etc....? And what the heck Admin, are you new to the monitoring of the board? You've never seen any other of my posts or pictures? Don't you know that I go to great pains to post only the best line of photos I take. Yes I, me, myself did take these pictures. I'd hardly say that the Nikon D50 I used is professonal standard (rather lower grade in the pro world). I just make sure the subjects I photograph are worth photographing.
Whatever, (no cheers in this case)
Cubanut[/QUOTE]Hi Cubanut.
I can read that you're mad.
I just wanted to tell you that I admire your pictures and that they are very good to my humble opinion.
I would only disagree on one point :
You say that you you use a Nikon D50 and you let think that your camera (quite a good one on my book) produces great pictures.
It's not the camera that produces the pictures but the eye of the photographer.
Take care, you're a great photographer.
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TLN with Mary Luz
The night had stated badly, no one was available or answering her phone.
I had try to contact Karen, Camila, and some other numbers that Karen had given me, but no, definitely no.
So I decided to go to the center and check it out.
When I walked out of my hotel, I realised that it was cold and I had to go back to take a sweater to resist the cold of that night.
I stopped a taxi (in bad shape) and asked him to take me to the Botero place. From the Botero Place, I walked down the Degrieff Ave and checked the girls. But, as usual, there was nothing really interesting (it was already dark) and I came back to the Botero place. From there, I walked here and there and suddenly realised that I was very close from Lindas Chicas (or Casa de piedras Calle 58 50A-54), and I decided to check if it was still open as Jchipper wrote that he had gone twice there and no one had opened the door for him.
I rang the bell once and nothing happened, so I insisted on the bell and finally, Mary Luz came and open the door. We were both very please to see each other. Mary Luz knew already that I had been with one of her friend when she was away (see my previous report on Katherine), and she gave me the classical scene of the jealous girl, nothing special.
She immediately wanted me to buy her a drink, but I refused. We kept speaking and I tried to know what she has done since our last meeting, but, as usual, Mary Luz has no conversation and the talk came quickly to an end.
Afer that, I asked her if she was willing to go for a TLN with me and (of course) she was very interested. So I explained them that I would pay the same thing as for Katherine: 200K. Nancy, the Mamasan went upstairs with Mary Luz and they both had a small talk before going down to tell me it was ok. Mary Luz "only" asked me to give her extra money for her taxi and I agree.
I then told her that I wanted to invite her for a late supper. I asked her if she would knew a restaurant where she would like to go, and she told me that she would like to go to the Parque Lleras to a restaurant she likes there.
We took a taxi till there (can’t remember the name of the restaurant, but it is on the parque) and there, she ordered a fish and I asked for a seafood rice. Mary Luz then ordered a glass of wine and a fruit juice and she finished everything! I was amaze that such a thin girl could eat so much! I realized later on in the evening that she was not as thin as the first time I had known her, I mean she still is very thin, but still, she has probably gained some weight and on such a thin girl, I noticed it immediately. I even remember that for a minute or two, I was wondering if she was not pregnant as her belly was inflated (have a look at the movie)!
We finished our meal and I tried to talk a little bit with her but, Mary Luz doesn’t speak much (at least with me).
We then took a taxi and went directly to my hotel, the San Fernando Plaza which is very close from the Lleras Parque.
We walked thru the lobby and, as usual, they didn’t asked me a thing. Great! Once in the room, we started our activity by a nice shower. I wanted to start screwing under the shower but she wouldn’t let me do it as the soap hurts her. After the shower, we dried ourselves and went to the bed.
I put her on her back and start a strong DATY fingering both her holes. After several minutes she came nicely (was it true? ).
She then pays me back giving me an incredible BBBJ. I mean that she is really good at this, knowing where to put her tongue and doing it very well.
I was lucky enough to keep control on my pleasure but had to stop her because I was feeling that I would come. I then had a rest for a minute and then start the intercourse with all the classical positions (Missionary, on our side, from behind) but she was not willing to let me take her doggy (too big and it hurts! ).
We did that for a good while and I was then so exhausted that I had to stop and had some rest. Mary Luz didn’t let me quite and start a HJ. She is not as good as this than doing a BBBJ, but it was still good. After 5 minutes rest, I was still hard and in better conditions, so we screw again. I think we did it for almost 2 hours. Poor Mary Luz.
Once again I was very tired and breathless. I desperately wanted to come but just couldn’t. So I put a porno movie on my laptop and watch it while Mary Luz was giving me again her wonderful BBBJ and then, I was lucky enough to come (yes, out of her).
We then went to the shower as I have put milk everywhere like I always do when I go BB.
Once the shower finished we had some sleep.
I think that she had not slept much as I was snoring. She told me later that she was kicking my feet to try to silent me but that it only worked for a limited amount of time.
At 6am I was ready again and start sucking her and fingering her ass, it was really very good.
We then start again the same games as the night before and we did it for a good 90 minutes. But once again I couldn’t come.
I then sat on the border of the bed and Mary Luz sat down on my dick. I took her butt in my hands and open it as she was mounting me Cow Girl. I was seeing her ass hole going up and down while my bared cock was doing her juicy pussy and that made me come at last!
We then had a quick last shower and I paid her the 200K + 10K. She wanted 10K more and after a short talk I gave them to her as she was so good.
I then took her till her taxi and went to my breakfast.
I have made a movie from my meeting with Mary Luz:
2008-04-03_Mde-MaryLuzShower+BBBJISG.jpg.mp4
Size : 68,4Mo
Length : 9’00”
Quality : Good, You’ll see the kind of problem I have when the girl doesn’t want to let me take picture while having sex.
[url]http://www.steekr.com/n/50-17/share/LNK2724481e94c9259fb/[/url]
Cheers.
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Jackson
[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Sorry to those wanting to read about issues of Medillin. I'm guilty of partially hijacking this forum. There is no value in further discussing this issue in this forum.[/QUOTE]Jackson,
I appreciate your forum, and I think you are a good moderator. However, David is deeply upset that the recent series of posts is in the Medellin forum instead of the General Info forum.
Does your software permit you to move the recent series of posts to the General Info forum? If it does, please consider moving the recent series of posts to the General Info forum.
Personally, I don't care whether you move the posts or not. It's really not a big deal whatsoever. Keep up the good work, Jackson. It's unfortunate that the Colombia forums tend to attract whiners.
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Hi Client 9,
Yes, the software has the capability to "split" a thread, but I just don't have the time to do it.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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Golf
[QUOTE=Davidb3069]I'm assuming you won't be traveling back to Colombia in the future because the prospects in Florida are so overwelming that there's no need.
David[/QUOTE]Do you golf, David? Some golfers join local country clubs. Despite belonging to a specific country club, sometimes they golf at other local clubs. Despite belonging to local country clubs, sometimes they go on golf vacations to other states or other countries.
Some guys really like to chase a little white ball around an open field. Other guys really like to chase chicas.
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Ice Cream
[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Americanized "tang" as someone put it is spoiled "tang". If you want legalized Colombians and the pickings are so great, why not stay in Florida? What's the need to go to Colombia or discuss Colombia travels for the purpose of sex?
David[/QUOTE]I really like ice cream. I especially enjoy going to Baskin-Robbins. However, sometimes I cannot go to Baskin-Robbins so I just eat the vanilla ice cream in my freezer.
I like all kinds of ice cream. I like all kinds of women, too.
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Wolves and Poodles
[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Many prepagos or hookers turn out to be good wives.
I've seen many turn out to be good catches.
David[/QUOTE]I am glad that you are happily married to a former prostitute, David.
However, we don't have to share your perspective or agree with your unusual choice.
If I take a wolf cub out of the forest and put it in my living room, the cub won't grow up to be a poodle.
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Anybody have a decoder ring?
[QUOTE=Rippp]The point is not about getting desperate, vulnerable tang who are looking for a green card and a "life" with the media romanticzed gringo, which main stream media has put on a pedestal for as long as these chicas have been alive. Imagine that. This lifetime brainwashing, if you will, has given the chicas some pretty wacked, Hollywood imagery of the gringo. I have live in S. FL and sure, it's a hopping "pond", as you so eloquently put but let's be honest here, 99% of the "wide open" florida tang, fall into the FOB category, with almost certain prepago/puta baggage. 2nd gen "normal" Cubana tang, you say? Ok, but if that's your thing, then ask yourself why you like foreign, less jaded, tang in the first place. It's about getting the quote, "normal" chica, without the economic disparty equation, without any expectations from either party. Painfully obvious, this is what you are referring to regarding Florida tang. It's obvious you have quite the romanticed view, read naive, view of these chicas and if you're gonna believe what these few "legal", "not destitute" chicas tell you, the more power to you bro. These chicas lie their ass off, it's an inherent and necessary trait in their situtation, who can blame them. So the moral of this story is that finding that "normal" chica without the puta past is quite elusive, if not an entire pipe dream. Sure, hell, you might be one of those guys that constantly fall for these chicas and completely disregard any past puta and all the other baggage. Read. War brides throughout history. Not at all dissimilar.[/QUOTE]Ripp,
I'm having great difficulty deciphering your point.
Are you saying most Latinas in the State of Florida are former prostitutes?
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Western Union
[QUOTE=Ricker]Nothing like dating chicas who collect their monthly Western Union money from their other boyfriends :)[/QUOTE]Now that's just plain funny. I'm glad somebody around here has a sense of humor.
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A moment with Andrea at Mayorista
i wanted to try something new for that night and i decided to go to mayorista. my taxi left me at the end of the strip and i started to walk up and down.
it was a good night and there were plenty girls available, some new to me, and looking good.
after walking 3 times the strip to see what was available, i fixed my choice on an astounding cute little thing with red hair.
her name was andrea and she is a 10 in my book: tiny, she hardly reach my breastbone, she must be under 80 pounds (40 kg), a nice face, long red hair, a flat stomach, a doll and a dream.
at the beginning i was afraid she could be **** but looking better and closer, she looked over 18. she told me she was 20 and after we were thru she recognised to be 19 and having 2 kids! that’s just nonsense, nuts, a crime! so many lives destroyed having kids too early, or unwanted, why why why?
i negotiate with her bbbj + some pictures.
once in the room, she didn’t want me to turn the light on, so i had great difficulties to take pictures as my camera couldn’t focus well on her, and as it is all automatic, i couldn’t fix the focus to a reasonable range.
one naked, she absolutely refused to let me take anymore picture.
she then took a shower and asked me to clean my best friend. i had a shower just before leaving the hotel, and, even if i love to have shower with my girls, i hate to do it in a bad motel with only cold water, so i cleaned again my best friend and wait for my beauty to dry herself.
we then went to bed and she wanted to cover me immediately. i remind her her promises to gave me a bbbj, she said ok but short. she did it for maybe 30 seconds and badly as she doesn’t know how to blow a cock.
she then covered me and wanted to start riding me cow girl style.
as she was dry it was difficult to get in and she had to put some spit on the condom to put me in.
i was very stiff but once again i didn’t feel anything with the rubber.
we made all the classical positions and i tried to finger her ass but she was decided not to do it and refused any ass contact.
i tried to propose her a tip to go bb but she was very firm: no!
i then tried to gave her a daty and she let me do it for a short amount of time and then complained that she doesn’t like that, that she is not use to it, . a complete failure.
i didn’t insist and i think that i remained less than 2 or 3 minutes in daty.
after that, as i was still stiff, we kept our intercourse activity repeating all the classical positions. i was then desperate to come. once again i proposed her a tip to go bb but she remained firm and said no.
so i put her on my favourite position: on her side with rear entrance and did her like that for more or less 10 minutes before i could finally reach climax.
she didn’t want a dfk or a lfk, nothing.
she was the typical mayorista’s girl who says no to everything.
once again i had a bad experience with a 10.
total cost: 14 for the room + a beer and 25 for her.
i would rather pay more and have a better service.
cheers
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[QUOTE=Client 9]I really like ice cream. I especially enjoy going to Baskin-Robbins. However, sometimes I cannot go to Baskin-Robbins so I just eat the vanilla ice cream in my freezer.
I like all kinds of ice cream. I like all kinds of women, too.[/QUOTE]I think you're more in love with yourself than the Colombian women, honestly. I haven't run across such an arrogant/cocky person as you in quite a while.
Congrats on the love affair with yourself.
David
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[QUOTE=Hoyaboy]I am going to Colombia at the end of the month.
Does anyone know a girl that deep throats?[/QUOTE]Sofia at New Life did DT on me, but then again I have a tiny dick.
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New Posters
Some of these new posters have the same antagonizing, always have to get in the last word, know it all, writing style as some of the "Banished" or "Haven't heard from in a little while" posters that we thought left for good. Any "old school" members here will recognize the writing style and anecdotes. Anyone else agree. lol
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Haciendo Napoles
I visited Haciendo Napoles, Pablo Escobar's old finca, a year or so ago. It was definitely interesting, but it was not developed and according the website (which I only skimmed) the development seems to mostly be in the planning stages. It was interesting to see Pablo's old house, the swimming pool which used to full of beautiful Colombianas now full of algae, and all bedrooms full of holes where people went searching for buried treasure. You can walk right up to the ponds where Pablos hippos still thrive and wander through fields of cattle dotted with large concrete dinosaurs. Lots of displaced familes live in the outbuildings. I seem to recall there being a few simple hotels nearby. I drove there with a friend but I think you can fly and land on the airstrip Pablo used for his drug flights.
All in all an interesting place to visit, but would be far from my first choice in Colombia.
SL
[QUOTE=Jergens007]Has anyone been to pablo escobars villa? The hacienda napoles
[url]http://haciendanapoles.com/[/url]
I believe its a zoo now. I don't understand spanish. If someone can translate please do so.
I really want to visit his villa next time I'm in Medellin.
Let me know if you guys been there? How much does it cost? And transporation to get there.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Client 9]Ripp,
I'm having great difficulty deciphering your point.
Are you saying most Latinas in the State of Florida are former prostitutes?[/QUOTE]I think he may be angry that he thought a Latin chick turned him down in the states, its a different society and culture.
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As I have stated several times Cubanut......
Hi Cubanut,
I tried to reach you through p.m but was unsuccessful. Thanks for all your great contributions, and you are another case in the point I was trying to make to Jackson. The quality of the Colombian board has sunk to the very bottom of the barrel with loses such as yourself, Winner, and many others. Even Nibu, who has been caged in his own threads has taken a hit. Hopefully Jackson will see the deteriation soon, and moderate with an even kneel, instead of the this rediculous censorship/ironhand approach that he applies to only this board.
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Hi UrbanWildlife,
You are completely wrong.
The fact is that informative contributions to the Colombia Forum are up by 30% since I initiated the full moderation.
If people don't like the way I moderate the forum, then they are welcome to go elsewhere. However, no matter what anyone decides, rest assured that I am not going to return the the days when the serial antagonists were trying to destroy this resource in their attempts to dissuade anyone from visiting Colombia, which they consider to be their personal playground.
In the past several months since I initiated full moderation on the Colombia forum, the serial antagonists who once infested the forum have moved on to other websites, one which was also compelled to place their Colombia Forum on full moderation, and the other which decided to stop taking new members to keep said serial antagonists out.
In addition, your comments about the forum being censored are also inaccurate. Apparently you missed an important day in civics class, so let me enlighten you.
"Freedom of Speach" is a constitutional protection of a citizen's right to speak out against the government, and as such it is a restriction on government activities attempting to curtail this right.
However, this forum is a private enterprise, and as such I cannot be compelled to publish whatever you choose to post, much in the same way as the New York Times cannot be compelled to publish every letter you might choose to send to their editor.
What I do in my forum is not called censorship, it's called editing, and it is a necessary function and the responsibility of every media publisher who wishes to maintain an organized publication.
Thanks,
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[QUOTE=Ricker][size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]The general posting sections of the Forum are not the place to voice your complaints about the Forum's rules or operating procedures. In the future, please send any complaints about the Forum to me personally by email or PM, or post them in the Comment on Forum Rules section. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size][/QUOTE]That's funny. I was just basically thanking the Cubanut for his contributions.
This forum has helped me greatly in my early years of exploring. For that I'm greatful.
Colombia is a great place for all. Just seems to be a lot of drama lately!
I'm in Brazil at the moment but off to Cali shortly. It will be fun to make the comparison between the 2 countries!
Take care amigos
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[QUOTE=Client 9]Ripp,
I'm having great difficulty deciphering your point.
Are you saying most Latinas in the State of Florida are former prostitutes?[/QUOTE]Client9,
I'm sure everyone wants to get back to talking about Medellin so I'll just provide a short answer to your question. The differences are academic, really.
Am I saying most Latinas in Florida are former prostitutes? No, I was referring to the newly arrived Latina, specifically the Columbiana, in S. Florida which you have to believe, have some sort of a pro past. Do I mean every single one of these FOB Columbianas? No on that count, well.
Phunluv's last post provides great insight into fundamental cultural differences.
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Loco,
I was there about 5 months ago, took a tour their.
Pablo´s bull fighting ring has been fully developed, also the Jarasic Park paddock is finished, their working on the stables now and just recently they dug up the bottom of his pool and found dollars, euro´s, gold etc.
Any body wants to know any thing more, just ask me, regards.
Aussie Greg.
[QUOTE=Salsero Loco]I visited Haciendo Napoles, Pablo Escobar's old finca, a year or so ago. It was definitely interesting, but it was not developed and according the website (which I only skimmed) the development seems to mostly be in the planning stages. It was interesting to see Pablo's old house, the swimming pool which used to full of beautiful Colombianas now full of algae, and all bedrooms full of holes where people went searching for buried treasure. You can walk right up to the ponds where Pablos hippos still thrive and wander through fields of cattle dotted with large concrete dinosaurs. Lots of displaced familes live in the outbuildings. I seem to recall there being a few simple hotels nearby. I drove there with a friend but I think you can fly and land on the airstrip Pablo used for his drug flights.
All in all an interesting place to visit, but would be far from my first choice in Colombia.
SL[/QUOTE]
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On The Road: Quito to Medellin
[b]April 29. [/b] Boarded the bus in Quito, Ecuador. After 28 months of circling South America it is time to break new ground and make for the border of Colombia. I know the border guards sometimes want to see proof of onward passage so I used Expedia and Paint to fake a flight ticket from Bogota to Canada, plus fake financial records for my bank account and credit card. Change a few numbers and one can be rich.
To my surprise it took six seconds to stamp out of Ecuador, five seconds to stamp into Columbia. Not a single question asked. Sixty day visa.
Caught a 800 peso bus to the bus terminal in Ipiales. First guy to greet me there asked "Pasto? " You bet. 5000 pesos, leaving immediately. This is efficient.
Outside the Pasto bus station I checked into a 12000 peso hotel for the night. The rule of travel for Colombia is: day time buses only, no night time. Two reasons: one is for safety, the other is to view the landscape -- half the reason I travel.
Found a Citibank ATM in Plaza de Narino, pulled 700,000 pesos. Viewed Volcan Galeras at 4200 meters. I noted "not a single bag search so far on this side of the border. No corpses littering the road, no masked bandits, no FARC guerillas -- but bring on the amputees -- guys with one arm or one leg, one arm and one leg, no legs, wrist and ankle stumps." Walked central for a few hours. A tame town. Retreated come 8pm for a good night's sleep.
[b]April 30. [/b] On the bus to Popayan, one of two cities distinctly cautioned by both Canada and Australia: "We advise you to reconsider your need to travel to the cities of Cali and Popayan and most rural areas of Colombia because of the uncertain security situation."
On the way I noticed a pickup in military presence. The motorcycle soldier-groups seem to conduct roaming activities, setting up in one place for a while then moving up/down the highway. Also noticed during a restaurant break a soldier recording a jeep's license plates, driver's name, as the latter turned off the main highway onto a secondary road.
Made Popayan by 3:30pm, jumped off the bus in central, walked five blocks, checked into the first decent place I came across, Hotel Pass Home for 20000 pesos a night. Beautiful family run hotel. I laughed because she had bibles open in every room. I take it John Chapter 1 is a favorite. Orientated myself with a neighborhood walk, bought supper, posted some ISG-Quito finishings, retreated for the night come 9pm.
[b]May 1. [/b] Visited two historic-colonial casas. On the way to the first casa I noticed people lining the streets, holding candles, waiting for a parade to begin. Thousands of people are in attendance. A deeply passionate Catholicism prevails. These days back home the only thing you can get people to parade for is gay pride. "Jesus is dead; long live the cock!"
After the parade I ascended El Morro de Tulcan, a hilltop for viewing the city. I eyed this hill yesterday but too many punks with beers were about. Today, however, families dominate. Up I go to snap pictures, Popayan being much smaller than I originally thought.
4pm. Descended the hill, within two blocks I looked behind me to see two drunks 'casually' following me, by their dress I can tell they are country bumpkins. I immediately took to crossing the road. Halfway across I do another shoulder check. One is pointing across the road, seemingly justifying to his partner why they should cross the road. It just happens to be the direction I am now going. Still in mid-cross I slow till they commit to crossing, then suddenly do a 180 degree turnabout, returning to the sidewalk I left. They keep on, me eying them, them 'not seeing' me. Back to central I go where the police are more predominant.
Internet for a bit. At 8pm I decide supper is due. It's dark, raining. I am a block from a chicken joint, cutting through a gas station parking lot, fifteen meters from a major road. Three city punks are also cutting through the lot. To avoid a crash-course I slightly altered my path. I casually look at the lead punk as we pass some three meters apart. He's inspecting me intensely. Hmmmm, so noted. Ten paces each in opposite directions. I shoulder check. As I thought: the lead has tipped his two friends, all three are doing a quick 180 degree turn. They note I note.
As I walk through the front of the gas station lot they cut around back. I see them emerge on the other side. It is raining so I am moving at a good clip, no need to run, into the chicken joint I go. They disappear into the rain and night.
That one-second of eye-contact refined my take on Colombia. These boys aren't the soft Indians of Peru, nor the sloppy street kids of Rio. When I looked into his eyes I saw something different. He was hard. He was sharp. He caught onto that slight change of trajectory instantly, through the night and through the rain. What saved me were my "Latino" colorings. It took him a few seconds to factor in the gringo elements. But he did -- and quickly. Fortunately for me safe distance was already established.
It was here I decided to implement the "Pakman." Years ago in southern Pakistan, an area more fucked up than Colombia has been or ever will be, I stopped shaving and dressed down so substantially that the locals were bewildered -- upon finding out I was a foreigner -- why I looked so poorly. One guy even offered to buy me a new shirt. Yes, it is time for a lockdown mode, the return of the Pakman, needing every advantage I can get to "blend-in" while travelling the south. Predicting I can breathe a little easier when reaching Medellin or Bogota.
[b]May 2. [/b] I woke feeling as sharp as a razor and as bitter as the scorpion's sting. Obviously Uribe hasn't flushed 'em all down the shitter yet; crime still pays. Walked the eight blocks to the bus station, jumped on a bus to Cali. Military presence picked up along the highway.
Upon entry into southern Cali, for a 45 minute drive along Calles 5 and 10 to the bus station, I wrote: "Fuck me. I am back in (north) Rio. Homeless people everywhere. Hardened slum shithole streets."
Fortunately north Cali is a step up. Walked from the bus station to Iguana guest house, a bed for 14000 pesos. Nice, safe location. As always, throw the luggage into the room and begin scouting the neighborhood, central across the river: safety, food stores, restaurants, Internet, etc. Found a strawberry waffle and ice cream for 6600 pesos. Yum. Bought a city map along Av Sexta for 3000p. Printed off the ISG Cali casa list. Bought supper and retreated home to start cross-referencing fuckclubs.
[b]May 3. [/b] It was post 1833 of the Cali board, by Catire, that clued me in on Cali's fuckclubs. I sighed. I've been through this already in Buenos Aires, Rio, Asuncion, La Paz. I hate the house-style setups. They are boring as fuck. I love the nightclub fuck-bars, loud music, dancing (and/or striptease), porn on tvs, cheap drinks, cheap cashsl*ts. Lots of energy to perk everyone up.
Cali's punishing heat gave me a throbbing headache upon drinking beers. I looked into two of the most popular casas. First: Clinica Doctor Amor. The setup is painful. Music barely heard, guys hardly drinking, girls forced to parade through "sala 1-2-3-4" (couches) to introduce themselves. Christ, they must do this two hundred times per day, if not more. No wonder they are uninspired. Maybe 15 chicas, none to my like. Sipped a 4000p beer, left.
Second: Ropa de Babe. Ten chicas, four of which were second-tier targets. I was uninspired. The person most eager to suck my dick was Bubbles, the gay presenter. Thick-cerveza head got worse with a second beer. I left. I found a restaurant for excellent grub. In the eve I went out in search of fuckclub Faraon (Pharoah), 2N 23-65. The addy is actually 2N 22-65. Closed. Appears permanently shut down. Pouring rain. Boots are soaked, clothes soaked, hair soaked (even with an umbrella), walked home sputtering "This city is a shithole!"
[b]May 4. [/b] The zoo. Ever seen an ostrich sleeping? What an odd sight to see it sprawled on the ground. Visited the Iglesia de San Antonio for a hillside view of the city. Read through my guidebook to determine a country itinerary going forward: Armenia, Medellin, Cartagena, Bogota, Villa de Leyva. The rest of it does not interest me. There are activities, landscapes and biological diversity in other South American countries that equal and/or surpass what Colombia has but in safer environs. From day one I thought this and I continue to think this. Until Uribe flushes all the cockroaches down the toilet it's a bare-bones itinerary in 2008.
[b]May 5. [/b] I woke wanting to hit more casas in the north. An 11am walk along Av Sexta, all shops still closed, snapped my temper. "I am sick of this city already." Grabbed my bag, hiked to the bus station and bought a one-way ticket out of Cali. Good riddance.
Armenia, 17000p hostal by the bus station, wandered the town for a couple hours. Started reading ISG-Medellin Lists to make my own consolidation.
[b]May 6. [/b] To Medellin. The best and most scenic bus ride so far, following a surging-river valley. Picturesque landscaping. This made up for grandpa sitting in front of me. He had a monstrous case of death-breath. And the kid sitting beside me wouldn't shut up for the first two hours. For the last two hours he shut up all right, puke pouring out of his nostrils. Even with my stomach of iron the smell of puke sprayed on his clothes made me queasy.
12:22pm, a first glimpse of Medellin. First thought? "Now this is more like it! I am back in the mountains where I belong."
Metro-ed to station Prado. Hotel Cristal, 34000 per night ($20), private room and bath. Threw down the bag. For three hours I circled the streets, observing, noting things of interest. Looked into a dozen other hotels, found a better deal, more centralized, room twice as large, hardwood floors, stereo with cd player, tv, fan, 25000p, desk girl is prettier, a single block from grocery store Exito, lots of restaurants, 24 hour Internet, and a Citibank ATM nearby (El Union Centro Commercial, Carerra 49 y Calle 52-107), pulled 900,000 pesos. Picked up a large detailed city map for 21,800 pesos (Papeleria Marin Libreria, Calle 50 y 46-42). Photocopied the passport and visa. Ahhh, I quote the quote "luck is the residue of design."
Printed off my consolidated Medellin casa list. Retired for the night by 7pm, started cross-referencing casas on my map.
[b]May 7. [/b] Changed hotels. Disengaged lockdown mode (i.e., Pakman status), prettying up for the chicas. Lunched, popped a cialis. 1:40pm, first casa visit being Venus, Calle 58 49-68, paid 35000 for 45 mins (2000 pennies), sexed Daniela, 21 years young. Tame cbj, tame sex, cute face, decent body (c-scar), usual positions, no kissing, still enough to pop over with a decent ass, flatdog saving the day as usual. I've sexed in tiny war-torn closets before but this is the first time I ever fucked on a plain mattress on the floor.
Net for 1.5 hours. Had a couple beers in a corner pub. Second casa, Barcelona, Calle 59 50-12, 4 chicas, none worthy of the cock. Left. Third casa, Alejas Sala Masajes, Calle 54 42-13, five chicas, none worthy of the cock, left.
More beers in a corner pub. 5pm. Fourth casa, New Life, Calle 56 43-39, six chicas, nada. Will have to return earlier another day as two decent lookers were leaving as I walked in.
Fifth casa is Geishas, Cr 43 56-47, chose Sonya, 21 years young, blonde, decent body, 30000 for 30 mins (1714 pennies), more receptive than Daniela but I didn't cum.
I exited Geishas. Looking at the list I see Aphrodite is right next door. I do a 180 degree turn, step back a few feet, walked in. Never done back-to-back thirty minute sessions before in different casas. Sat. Girls introduced. I looked at Laura's ass while she is walking away, which distracts me from the next girl, making for a laugh. Laura it is, 20 years young. 25000 pesos for 30 mins (1429 pennies). As the day wears on it just keeps on getting cheaper and cheaper.
Within fifteen minutes of exiting Sonya's pussy I was in Laura's mouth. Good cbj warmup. She mounted me. She can ride! This girl has some horsepower. Opted for missionary; she went for her clit with her fingers. I doubted its authenticity, having seen and experienced the "porno-imitation" before.
But when she put me on my back again, re-mounted while pinning me down, then doing the scrub-board rubbing on my pelvis and cock, there could be no doubt. She was game. With the pace of her breathing picking up I put my tongue to her neck and ears -- scrub, scrub, scrub -- and there she goes, sailing off the end of the world, into ecstasy, with loud grunts and moans.
She slowed down, lazily positioned into doggie. My turn! To flatdog, tasty ass cheeks swallowing the cock. Bye bye brain, Hello O (orgasm).
Day one in Medellin and I tagged three second-tier chicas. Not bad. I am in a more fuck-fiesta mood here in Med than in Cali, primarily because I am in a scenic-mountain city, cooler temp, so second-tier chicas will do nicely for cock massages until I find my petite and pretty 8teenie or 9teenie ideal.
Let the fucking continue ...
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July 1st till the 8th Medellin
Ok guys,
looking for a wingman, I will be traveling to Medellin for my 1st time. Staying at the Famous Medellin Mansion.
1-Anyone headed that way out of Miami?
2-Any top reccomendations where to visit, restaurants, clubs, sightseeing?
3-Any girl reccomendations & how to contact them? (photos will help...jaja!)
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[QUOTE=Mw1030]Ok guys,
looking for a wingman, I will be traveling to Medellin for my 1st time. Staying at the Famous Medellin Mansion.
1-Anyone headed that way out of Miami?
2-Any top reccomendations where to visit, restaurants, clubs, sightseeing?
3-Any girl reccomendations & how to contact them? (photos will help...jaja!)[/QUOTE]I will around June 15 - July 16. I recommend you pay Jackson his $20 subscription fee to you can communicate with other members via the PM system. If not you risk not being able to communicate with people.
Most of your questions have already been answered in past posts.
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[QUOTE=Tungurahua][b]April 29. [/b] Boarded the bus in Quito, Ecuador. After 28 months of circling South America it is time to break new ground and make for the border of Colombia. I know the border guards sometimes want to see proof of onward passage so I used Expedia and Paint to fake a flight ticket from Bogota to Canada, plus fake financial records for my bank account and credit card. Change a few numbers and one can be rich.[/QUOTE]A little more danger and drama than I prefer but I'm glad you made it ok to Medellin.
I found the gay announcer comment funny. It seems like all the girls have gay "safe" friends.
I take it you didn't experience the frequent stops/searches that others report?
The nicer, cooler environment of Medellin is the place for me. That's why I live here in Quito.
David
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Tunghuarua,
That was very insightful into what goes on when you go alone to those areas, I kinda like how you described Rio because I wouldn't expect it to have homeless people all over.
Thanks for all that info.
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Deep Throat
Anyone else have recommendations for girls that deep throat.
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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg] just recently they dug up the bottom of his pool and found dollars, euro´s, gold etc.[/QUOTE]Euros?
That's curious. Pablo was killed in 1993 and the euro was introduced in 1999.
From wikipedia.org:
"Pablo Emilio Escobar Gaviria, a.k.a. El Patrón or El Doctor (December 1, 1949 – December 2, 1993) gained world infamy as a Colombian drug dealer."
"The euro was introduced to world financial markets as an accounting currency in 1999 and launched as physical coins and banknotes on 1 January 2002. It replaced the former European Currency Unit (ECU) at a ratio of 1:1."
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[QUOTE=Nortelx]Euros?
That's curious. Pablo was killed in 1993 and the euro was introduced in 1999.
From wikipedia.org:
"Pablo Emilio Escobar Gaviria, a.k.a. El Patrón or El Doctor (December 1, 1949 – December 2, 1993) gained world infamy as a Colombian drug dealer."
"The euro was introduced to world financial markets as an accounting currency in 1999 and launched as physical coins and banknotes on 1 January 2002. It replaced the former European Currency Unit (ECU) at a ratio of 1:1."[/QUOTE]That would make it hard to have Euros then LOL! I visited Pablos grave last week and was surprised they had exhumed his body in 06. His nephew requested it. You can see it on You Tube just type Escobar exhummacion. Very interesting to say the least as the family stands around as they open his coffin and his nephew examines his skull, counts his teeth and pokes the holes in his skull. No rest for the wicked!
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Maybe it was diamonds, its was just what my secretary told me after reading the paper.
A.G.
[QUOTE=Nortelx]Euros?
That's curious. Pablo was killed in 1993 and the euro was introduced in 1999.
From wikipedia.org:
"Pablo Emilio Escobar Gaviria, a.k.a. El Patrón or El Doctor (December 1, 1949 – December 2, 1993) gained world infamy as a Colombian drug dealer."
"The euro was introduced to world financial markets as an accounting currency in 1999 and launched as physical coins and banknotes on 1 January 2002. It replaced the former European Currency Unit (ECU) at a ratio of 1:1."[/QUOTE]
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A Milestone in Medellin
thanks to malodr for posting in the medellin maps forum; i didn't even know it was there. with a city map on paper, a good camera, and armed with forum information i re-did the maps to suit myself, consolidated a list of places and addresses. tape the two maps together (map 2 slides under map 1) for full context.
i attach them to the end of this post if anyone is interested. i am holding off on posting them in the medellin maps section until i leave, as i would like to ask a few questions first, then add to / subtract from / revise the images.
if anyone has anything to add to the list and/or maps -- another casa, hours of operation, or if an addy or pricing is wrong, etc -- just let me know via the forum or a pm.
the questions i have are:
(1) is the address right for nana? there is no cr 57 48-09 or 48-69. is it closed? i could not find it.
(2) monte caprino. suspect it is no longer a casa but a normal home. i rang the buzzer, people peek through the shutters, no one opens the door. can someone confirm?
(3) play model, at cll 57 50-19, is the address right? is it closed? i could not find it. lots of trannies about.
(4) casa blanca. when i rang the buzzer no one answered. may be closed.
(5) dally, at cr 45 50-59, is a hotel. i think the lady said girls show up at night. huh? is this a casa or a hotel?
[b]thursday, may 8. [/b] in ma piases i sampled tatiana, 20 years, 35k-30mins. beautiful girl, great hardbody, but she was distant. the mamasan here seems to run a tight show.
a few hours later in aiffe i sampled juliet, 19 years, 30k-30mins. another hardbody, jiggly c-tits, this one with a friendlier software package.
[b]friday, may 9. [/b] in quito the most popular working name is andrea, here it seems to be camilla. there must be a camilla in every casa. in a sister-club of sexy, masajes 55-35, i picked up michelle, 23 years, 25k-30mins. a slender 8, long straight black hair to her ass, pretty face.
having finished my first circuit of central's casas come early evening i popped into strip club americana for a beer. a couple cuties present.
somehow convinced myself that i needed to see mangos. while going there i figured may as well stop in at mayorista's street scene for a friday night look. i had no idea where hotel el castillo was so i resolved to walk around the whole mayorista complex / district if need be. fortunately upon exiting the metro, ayura station, it was a mere four or five blocks before i hit the scene.
arrived about 9:30pm. sat for beers. this place is great! it's almost like a small piece of vila mimosa in medellin. a couple dozen bars, a dozen hotels, and a lot of chicas continuously coming and going.
almost immediately i saw a cute chica. she doesn't shy away, makes eye contact, smiles. mulatta. pretty face, long slender legs. after some time she came up to me and introduced herself, christine, 18 years young, speaks decent english. she asks "i am slim?" fuck yeah, baby, you're slimmer than a toothpick.
for a friday night there were a handful of petite fuckables present. by 1am i decided christine was the best thing going. 25k-40mins, hotel room 12k.
first thing in the room her eyes open wide with excitement: "do you like cocaine?!" i laughed "no thanks." fucking an 8teenie while listening to aerosmith's love in an elevator gives the song a new dimension. "going down?" a new memory to last forever. pliable, french kissing, she was a good sexing.
to my disappointment, however, the bars of mayorista closed at 1:30am. lame, dude. taxied home to central for 9000 pesos, last words written: "i fucked an 18 year pussy today. it was a good day."
i never did make mangos.
[b]saturday, may 10. [/b] went to aiffe for a return session with juliet. instead the last chica to walk out astonished me with her beauty. wow. she is probably the hottest mulatta i have laid my eyes on. fernanda, 20 years, 30k-30mins. very friendly, long mane of curly black hair to her hot ass, perky c-cup tits, long slender fingers and toes, pretty face, curves galore. i am going to do a return session with her on monday and ask for pictures. i don't take a lot of pics anymore, only of the super-starlets. being a 9 she easily qualifies.
at night i returned to mayorista's street scene for more boozing and slumming. not as many girls on sat as fri. picked samantha, 19 years, 30k-30mins, hotel 12k.
[b]a milestone in medellin: [/b] on thursday juliet had the honor of being the 200th chica sexed in south america in 25 months (april 2006 to present). an international breakdown looks like this:
quito: 152 chicas, 356 sessions
loja: 4 chicas, 4 sessions
brazil: 17 chicas, 30 sessions
peru: 7 chicas, 7 sessions
bolivia: 7 chicas, 9 sessions
argentina: 4 chicas, 5 sessions
paraguay: 4 chicas, 5 sessions
columbia: 9 chicas, 9 sessions
total: 204 chicas, 425 sessions.
i was striving to break the 200 mark in quito but it is columbia that comes through for me. hmmm, what milestone should i strive for next? i need something new to inspire me.
[b]david3069: [/b] re: frequent stops/searches. ecuador military searched my bag on their side, but i have not been stopped or searched once in columbia.
[b]artisttyp: [/b] re: dress in medellin. i have resumed normal look and dress here in medellin. though i keep an eye out i feel safe here. much safer than in lima for example. i was thinking after my first night in mayorista that i am in medellin, columbia, all pissed up and walking around the streets at 2am. it is odd as i never thought to be doing this.
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Good report Tung
Hey Tung,
Great report, one of the best in a long time. I will be heading down to Medellin for the first time in a week and a half. I am excited as fuck about it!
I see you were at Mayorista area at night. Is it safe there at night?
Is The centro different from Mayorista?
Just a couple of questions I had. I also look foward to any updates you have.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Sixpaku Too]Hey Tung,
Great report, one of the best in a long time. I will be heading down to Medellin for the first time in a week and a half. I am excited as fuck about it!
I see you were at Mayorista area at night. Is it safe there at night?
Is The centro different from Mayorista?
Just a couple of questions I had. I also look foward to any updates you have.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Mayorista seems much safer at night than centro. Never felt threatened at mayorista at night, and have been there solo on several occasions, though do keep your eyes open as anything is possible. Centro is just too dicey, in my opinion at night, although during the day relatively safe. Just too many drunken colombianos, street type of people hanging in that area after dark. There can be a diamond in the rough here, so shopping from the taxista is an option!
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Changing Cash
i know this has been discussed here before but i am still not clear on a few things. i am sorry if this is a repeat topic.
i belong to jp morgan chase so i get ass raped everytime i use my debit card. as any seasoned traveler i carry some cash a credit card travelers checks etc.
my question is can i exchange dollars for pesos at cambios ? i've been told by one member that there is a cambio in poblado that only changes 100 dollar bills. this seems really weird to me. most latin countries will except everything but 100 bills. what is the norm for exchanging cash putting better atm rates aside?
can someone fill me in ?
i know about citibank and pre paid debit cards etc. i'm not intrested in any of them. i'm stuck with chase and that is how it goes.
by the way i am disgusted with the industry of making money off access to
your own money. it's gross.
thank you for your time.
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Hey Tungurahua,
nana is just back off the street a ways. if you turn on Oriental there is a park type place with a small street, nana is on that block, i will see if I can find a picture It is tough to find without someone showing you.
Play Model was there in November, but they might have closed down, not much of a line up anyway.
Dally is a night place, but they will lead you on about when the chicas arrive, Don't bother would be my advice.
Had Christine in January, really thin, but a real cokehead.
Fernanda was there in April, I had her on April 5. Plus she was working at New Life in November.
Thanks for the update
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Very different Six
I know you asked Tung but to answer one of your questions, yes Mayorista is very different from Centro. Mayorista is a strip of bars and little cheap hotels that is about a city block long more or less. There is a lot of action and people milling about. Plenty of street girls looking for business and if I am not mistaken, is best seen in the evening and night with Fri and Sat being the best nights. Other nights have action as well and I think there are some girls there during the day but not nearly as many.
Centro is an entire area (there are a few maps posted on here to give you an idea how big the area is) where a lot of casas are found but is very discreet. You will not usually see girls just hanging around looking for business. (There is a park where I saw some of everything going on during the days I walked through with Malodr but I cannot remember the name of it. It is mentioned here in the forum as well.) The casas are mostly just doors with very little else suggesting they are "casas". Centro casas mostly close at about 7 and it has been suggested to not be wandering around after that time unless you have some other purpose. Some of the casas in Centro are open later and you can see some of those mentioned in a few lists done by the guys here. Strip clubs are in Centro as well and are open at night but I was advised not to wander around going to them. Catch a cab.
I gathered this info from the board and from my first and only visit to MDE so I probably will get corrected on some info but I think I am not too far off base. I will be there for a week starting Wednesday and hope to know a lot more from this next trip.
Hope this was helpful!
DP
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[QUOTE=Dpilzbo]I know you asked Tung but to answer one of your questions, yes Mayorista is very different from Centro. Mayorista is a strip of bars and little cheap hotels that is about a city block long more or less. There is a lot of action and people milling about. Plenty of street girls looking for business and if I am not mistaken, is best seen in the evening and night with Fri and Sat being the best nights. Other nights have action as well and I think there are some girls there during the day but not nearly as many.
Centro is an entire area (there are a few maps posted on here to give you an idea how big the area is) where a lot of casas are found but is very discreet. You will not usually see girls just hanging around looking for business. (There is a park where I saw some of everything going on during the days I walked through with Malodr but I cannot remember the name of it. It is mentioned here in the forum as well.) The casas are mostly just doors with very little else suggesting they are "casas". Centro casas mostly close at about 7 and it has been suggested to not be wandering around after that time unless you have some other purpose. Some of the casas in Centro are open later and you can see some of those mentioned in a few lists done by the guys here. Strip clubs are in Centro as well and are open at night but I was advised not to wander around going to them. Catch a cab.
I gathered this info from the board and from my first and only visit to MDE so I probably will get corrected on some info but I think I am not too far off base. I will be there for a week starting Wednesday and hope to know a lot more from this next trip.
Hope this was helpful!
DP[/QUOTE]The park you and Malodr were in is called Parque Bolivar.
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Mongers, Artistyp in particular,
There are various casas de cambio thoughout Medellin, located in the various centro comericales in the poblado and san diego area, and also in several supermarkets (carulla for sure). In addition, Bancolombia and other banks will change cash, but only during very limited hours. However, I absolutely do not recommend changing cash for several reasons with only one exception, which I will describe. The actual rate for cash exchange of US dollars in Colombia is at least 15% less than the actual interbank exchange rate that you will get from drawing cash via ATM networks. The reason for this is twofold: one, the market in Colombian is absolutely flush with illegally earned US dollars as a result of the narcotics trade; two, the market is also flush with counterfeit US dollars, "made in Cali", which raises the risk of accepting US dollars for exchange. Unlike other Latin American countries, such as Brasil or Argentina where nearly every retail and dining establishment will accept US dollars, most in Colombia simply will not.
The one exception to this rule, and something I have withheld from posting here, is with the Euro. Cash Euro exchange rates are, inexplicably, 15% less than the real market rate. Back in December, when the USD was 1. 49 to the Euro, I was able to buy Euros in Colombia for 1. 32. This works because I was able to pull out USD at the then rate of about 2000 COP to USD, then take the COP and buy Euros from the Casa de Cambios at the equivalent of 1. 32 to the USD. Even with all the fees for the transaction, I for 15 more points on the exchange. As market conditions have not changed I assume this could still be done.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
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[QUOTE=Zig Monger]Mayorista seems much safer at night than centro. Never felt threatened at mayorista at night, and have been there solo on several occasions, though do keep your eyes open as anything is possible. Centro is just too dicey, in my opinion at night, although during the day relatively safe. Just too many drunken colombianos, street type of people hanging in that area after dark. There can be a diamond in the rough here, so shopping from the taxista is an option![/QUOTE]I'll agree. Centro after dark can be quite dicey.
About a month ago I was in el Centro, hit a casa and left about closing time. Walked down to the area they call Junin con la Playa. Pedestrian traffic only, no cars.
Great area for chica gazing and grabbing a quick bite to eat.
Anyway, that area is fairly safe, even in the evening.
What was dumb of me was deciding to walk to the metro station from there at night.
I'll tell you what, some crazed, half naked street dude practically attacked me begging me for money.
I would've felt sorry for him but he was very aggressive and dangerous.
I saw him breaking open bags of garbage on the street like a wild animal and engulfing crap from the garbage.
He spotted me and practically attacked me screaming for money.
I ducked into this grocery store that had security guards outside and waited for a taxi to come by.
Definitely some strange MFo's in Centro, especially after dark.
You should keep your best guard up.
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Thanks Kd!
Yup, I knew one of you guys would know the name. Malodr calls it "Blowjob Park" I think. LOL. I knew that wasn't the proper name. Even translated. LOL.
That was an interesting park. Lots of police there during the day. Even a little police sub station but when going by there at night, I saw very few police. There was a guy selling ice cream to the kids and their Mom's and an old crazy lady pulling at her crotch trying to sell me something that I tried hard not to even visualize just a few feet away from him. LOL. There were some glue sniffers (not openly sniffing but clearly high) mixed in with the casual business worker having a bite or reading a paper. There are a few very cute SW there and I know a couple guys that said they were fine (and cheap) but there are some trannys too that look like girls at first glance. Buyer beware.
Is it worth a visit. Yes. To me it was if to do nothing else but people watch for a few minutes. It reminded me of riding the subway without the train!
DP
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Nice double thread going on here.
I sit in Miami and will check out the casas and Mayorista tonight. The current reports are timely and quite good. I personally take a wingman along on my night excursions to Mayorista. But it works either way.
As far as money, that is a good analysis Rock. The only thing I can add is that some banks like Vineyard Bank in California and many credit unions now offer atm cards with no fees trying to compete. I discovered this a few years ago and it offers a few advantages. First, the BofA can't rip you off for an 8$ fee every transaction. Secondly, you don't need to carry much money around nor do you need to carry traveler's checks. The exchange rate has been good to me in Asia and Latin America.
Safe Travels
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Mayorista is not what I would call safe by any means. That being said, it is relatively much more tranquillo than Centro at night. Centro at night is straight up crazy. Like Grand Theft Auto. Anarchy!
Anyway, one night I was at Mayorista and shots broke out, one guy got hit and a girl as well (the girl was the intended target). Police were there in a flash, the guy got away, both people that got shot looked like they would survive. Funny thing is, 45 minutes later, everything was back to normal. I'm sure others here can corroborate this. It was in the paper and I saw someone had even posted the link to the incident on another board.
Bottom line is always keep your guard up and don't consider anything as 'safe' in Colombia. You'll have a great time and come back home in one piece if you keep this mentality. I'm staying in Colombia now for the last month. In BOG but will be back in MDE in a week or so.
[QUOTE=Sixpaku Too]Hey Tung,
Great report, one of the best in a long time. I will be heading down to Medellin for the first time in a week and a half. I am excited as fuck about it!
I see you were at Mayorista area at night. Is it safe there at night?
Is The centro different from Mayorista?
Just a couple of questions I had. I also look foward to any updates you have.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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Money Matters
[quote=rock harders]mongers, artistyp in particular,
there are various casas de cambio thoughout medellin, located in the various centro comericales in the poblado and san diego area, and also in several supermarkets (carulla for sure). in addition, bancolombia and other banks will change cash, but only during very limited hours. however, i absolutely do not recommend changing cash for several reasons with only one exception, which i will describe. the actual rate for cash exchange of us dollars in colombia is at least 15% less than the actual interbank exchange rate that you will get from drawing cash via atm networks. the reason for this is twofold: one, the market in colombian is absolutely flush with illegally earned us dollars as a result of the narcotics trade; two, the market is also flush with counterfeit us dollars, "made in cali", which raises the risk of accepting us dollars for exchange. unlike other latin american countries, such as brasil or argentina where nearly every retail and dining establishment will accept us dollars, most in colombia simply will not.
the one exception to this rule, and something i have withheld from posting here, is with the euro. cash euro exchange rates are, inexplicably, 15% less than the real market rate. back in december, when the usd was 1. 49 to the euro, i was able to buy euros in colombia for 1. 32. this works because i was able to pull out usd at the then rate of about 2000 cop to usd, then take the cop and buy euros from the casa de cambios at the equivalent of 1. 32 to the usd. even with all the fees for the transaction, i for 15 more points on the exchange. as market conditions have not changed i assume this could still be done.
suerte,
rock harders[/quote]this all makes sense. *do you think me getting ass raped for about $8 per $200 transaction( x30 days) is better than losing 15% on the exchange rate ?
i am staying for a month and i can't see myself giving these assholes $8 everytime i take my own money out.
i understand that other banks are in competition with each other but even citibank now charges for atm fees.
i do not feel comfortable traveling with a credit card offered by some rinky dink bank. chase is known world wide and their reputation is good. oddly enough i feel very secure with chase and that is important to me.
does it matter if my bills are 100's or 50's ?
this was a great post. thank you rock harders. i enjoyed your santa cruz de la sierra post as well.
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Mayorista is not what I would call safe by any means. That being said, it is relatively much more tranquillo than Centro at night. Centro at night is straight up crazy. Like Grand Theft Auto. Anarchy!
Anyway, one night I was at Mayorista and shots broke out, one guy got hit and a girl as well (the girl was the intended target). Police were there in a flash, the guy got away, both people that got shot looked like they would survive. Funny thing is, 45 minutes later, everything was back to normal. I'm sure others here can corroborate this. It was in the paper and I saw someone had even posted the link to the incident on another board.
Bottom line is always keep your guard up and don't consider anything as 'safe' in Colombia. You'll have a great time and come back home in one piece if you keep this mentality. I'm staying in Colombia now for the last month. In BOG but will be back in MDE in a week or so.[/QUOTE]I usually keep a driver and 1-2 wingmen with me.
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Mongers, Artistyp-
You can withdraw 800, 000 COP from the Citibank ATM located in the Blockbuster Video store in Poblado. Thats about $470 USD all things considered, so paying $8 USD to pull that amount would be a per transaction fee of only about 1. 7% which is clearly far less than the minimum 15% hit you take to made the cash exchange at your choice of casa de cambio. I do not understand your hangup about wanting to keep a Chase card as your sole mode of money access; all debit cards these days are connected to the same networks, more or less, either Plus, Cirrus, or Link, the prestige of your bank has no bearing on whether an ATM machine will accept your card, only the networks your ATM card is associated with. When I travel in South America, I only use my ATM card (Wachovia) when I go to Colombia, because in all the other places I have been (Paraguay, Bolivia, Brasil, Uruguay, Cuba) and the country where I live (Argentina) you always get a better rate exchanging cash USD. USD cash is king in South America. Except in Colombia.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
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[quote=artisttyp]this all makes sense. *do you think me getting ass raped for about $8 per $200 transaction( x30 days) is better than losing 15% on the exchange rate ?
i am staying for a month and i can't see myself giving these assholes $8 everytime i take my own money out.
i understand that other banks are in competition with each other but even citibank now charges for atm fees.
i do not feel comfortable traveling with a credit card offered by some rinky dink bank. chase is known world wide and their reputation is good. oddly enough i feel very secure with chase and that is important to me.
does it matter if my bills are 100's or 50's ?
this was a great post. thank you rock harders. i enjoyed your santa cruz de la sierra post as well.[/quote]actually at $8 per $200 you are paying 4% exchange fee versus the other 15% over the vacation i imagine that will save you enough for some extra girls.
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[quote=artisttyp]this all makes sense. *do you think me getting ass raped for about $8 per $200 transaction( x30 days) is better than losing 15% on the exchange rate ?
i am staying for a month and i can't see myself giving these assholes $8 everytime i take my own money out.
i understand that other banks are in competition with each other but even citibank now charges for atm fees.
i do not feel comfortable traveling with a credit card offered by some rinky dink bank. chase is known world wide and their reputation is good. oddly enough i feel very secure with chase and that is important to me.
does it matter if my bills are 100's or 50's ?
this was a great post. thank you rock harders. i enjoyed your santa cruz de la sierra post as well.[/quote]why don't you bring more cash with you and then when you run out, you hit the atms? that's what i do. the exchange rate for cash will probably still be better than the fees it sounds like you're getting whacked with.
david
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Thank You / $ issues
[QUOTE=Escort King]Actually at $8 per $200 you are paying 4% exchange fee versus the other 15% over the vacation I imagine that will save you enough for some extra girls.[/QUOTE]I am no accountant but yes I thought about that. The only issue would be the number of times I need to do it.
I will figure it out somehow. Thanks to everybody who took the time to answer.
By the way I have a theme song for my upcoming trip.
Grupo Gale "Ven a Medellin". Required listening.
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Ok fellas I need your assistance on breaking my Medellin monger virginity
I usually monger in DR this will be my 1st american run
Now ticket to MDE I can handle myself but before I get the ticket I need to know where to stay
Have searched the site but not found what I'm looking for either for one resaon or another
1. I'm looking for an apartment or hotel that is chica friendly but NOT a monger haven (mansion castillo.)
I want it close to the action (which I hear is the mayorista) but safe and no more that $60 per night
Now is this attainable in Medellin?
Or am I asking for too much
2. Is mayorista the best place for meeting p4p action in clubs and bars at basically night life in Medellin?
From what I have gathered from your posts el centro is good for massage parlor type deals during the daytime but not clubs at night.
Any links or contact info you guys send in reply would be greatly appreciated
Also I really gotta applaud you guys with these maps
Over in the DR forum I have yet to see one and its well needed
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=World Jockey]Ok fellas I need your assistance on breaking my Medellin monger virginity
I usually monger in DR this will be my 1st american run
Now ticket to MDE I can handle myself but before I get the ticket I need to know where to stay
Have searched the site but not found what I'm looking for either for one resaon or another
1. I'm looking for an apartment or hotel that is chica friendly but NOT a monger haven (mansion castillo.)
I want it close to the action (which I hear is the mayorista) but safe and no more that $60 per night
Now is this attainable in Medellin?
Or am I asking for too much
2. Is mayorista the best place for meeting p4p action in clubs and bars at basically night life in Medellin?
From what I have gathered from your posts el centro is good for massage parlor type deals during the daytime but not clubs at night.
Any links or contact info you guys send in reply would be greatly appreciated
Also I really gotta applaud you guys with these maps
Over in the DR forum I have yet to see one and its well needed
Thanks! [/QUOTE]Your concept of Medellin is way off the mark.
The Mayorista is not the center of night life in Medellin. It's a small area of low-end street girls and short time motels.
Sure there's several bars there for drinking a cerveza, but not what I would call the center of the action.
I sure wouldn't base my vacation around it.
Medellin is a spread out city with "action" in many areas.
You say you don't want to stay at a gringo type hotel. Well, a great advantage to those places is they keep you from spinning your wheels and wasting time, which is very easy to do in the spread out city Medellin.
I'd rather stay in el Centro or la Setenta area than the Mayorista if I wasn't staying at a place like the Mansion or el Castillo.
I for one highly recommend a new guy to start off at one of the gringo hotels on a first visit. If you want less of a feel of full time mongers' hotel, try the Castillo.
Good luck amigo!
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[QUOTE=Ricker]Your concept of Medellin is way off the mark.
The Mayorista is not the center of night life in Medellin. It's a small area of low-end street girls and short time motels.
Sure there's several bars there for drinking a cerveza, but not what I would call the center of the action.
I sure wouldn't base my vacation around it.
Medellin is a spread out city with "action" in many areas.
You say you don't want to stay at a gringo type hotel. Well, a great advantage to those places is they keep you from spinning your wheels and wasting time, which is very easy to do in the spread out city Medellin.
I'd rather stay in el Centro or la Setenta area than the Mayorista if I wasn't staying at a place like the Mansion or el Castillo.
I for one highly recommend a new guy to start off at one of the gringo hotels on a first visit. If you want less of a feel of full time mongers' hotel, try the Castillo.
Good luck amigo![/QUOTE]Hey guys,
I myself will be visiting Medellin for the 1st time this July. I do want to experience the monger lifestyle in this vacation but also appreciate what Medellin has to offer from a tourist point of view. I will be staying in Medellin Mansion and will visit a few mongering venues, but besides that where can you hang out, meet REGULAr girls and attractiongs Medellin has to offer?
Regards,
DDJ
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If in fact, it is your first trip down here, staying at the mansion is quite easy. There is a certain anxiety about a first time trip anywhere but it will be alleviated there. You can get the lay of the land within 48 hours if you have any mongering experience or common sense.
My recommendations would be to read all the posts the past 6 months. You will understand a lot more then. If you have any specific questions, please feel free to send me a pm.
Safe travels.
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[QUOTE=World Jockey]Ok fellas I need your assistance on breaking my Medellin monger virginity
I usually monger in DR this will be my 1st american run
Now ticket to MDE I can handle myself but before I get the ticket I need to know where to stay
Have searched the site but not found what I'm looking for either for one resaon or another
1. I'm looking for an apartment or hotel that is chica friendly but NOT a monger haven (mansion castillo.)
I want it close to the action (which I hear is the mayorista) but safe and no more that $60 per night
Now is this attainable in Medellin?
Or am I asking for too much
2. Is mayorista the best place for meeting p4p action in clubs and bars at basically night life in Medellin?
From what I have gathered from your posts el centro is good for massage parlor type deals during the daytime but not clubs at night.
Any links or contact info you guys send in reply would be greatly appreciated
Also I really gotta applaud you guys with these maps
Over in the DR forum I have yet to see one and its well needed
Thanks![/QUOTE]Newbies to the board should really read posts that are already up on the board for the information you are looking for before you ask a question. Most questions are already answered.
A really good answer to this question was posted on the very same page just a few posts down from the question post.
[QUOTE=Tungurahua]Metro-ed to station Prado. Hotel Cristal, 34000 per night ($20), private room and bath. Threw down the bag. For three hours I circled the streets, observing, noting things of interest. Looked into a dozen other hotels, found a better deal, more centralized, room twice as large, hardwood floors, stereo with cd player, tv, fan, 25000p, desk girl is prettier, a single block from grocery store Exito, lots of restaurants, 24 hour Internet, and a Citibank ATM nearby (El Union Centro Commercial, Carerra 49 y Calle 52-107), pulled 900,000 pesos. Picked up a large detailed city map for 21,800 pesos (Papeleria Marin Libreria, Calle 50 y 46-42). Photocopied the passport and visa. Ahhh, I quote the quote "luck is the residue of design."[/QUOTE]
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Paola, in her ass...
This day, I was able to be free after lunch.
I had a date with Karen at the Botero Café in the center.
She arrived (as usual) 30 minutes late, but that’s the price to pay to be with almost any good looking woman I know.
She proposed me to go back to the new Metro Cable (cable car) that opened recently.
I had already done this trip with Karen but it was late and already dark. This time, we wanted to see the "country side".
It was really nice, and I have been able to take a lot of pictures and to make movies. When we arrived at the last station, we walked out of the cable car to see the countryside from the terminal and we had the surprise to see that almost nobody would go down! All the people in the cable car were tourist!
This is very different from the other cable car, widely use by the local people. We asked to someone why local people wouldn’t take this Cable car and he explained us that people were afraid of the height!
I mean, it’s higher than the other Cable car, but if you’re used to Cable car in ski area, it’s nothing.
Of course, Medellin poor people don’t have the chance to go to ski area.
It seems that local people prefer to take their usual bus to go downtown. If things don’t change, this will be a financial disaster.
After going back, we decided to visit the contemporaneous museum of art.
We once again took the metro till the right station and walk till the museum.
As Karen was hungry, we stopped by the local Exito and I bought her some lasagna after choosing some clothes.
Funny thing was that we met Karen’s husband near the Exito. He was doing some visit in the neighborhood and he greeted us as old friends.
That still produces a strange impression to me even if it was not my first meeting with him.
Karen told me that they don’t live together anymore and that he knows about her activity.
We then walked till the museum and I bought a CD to burn to keep my promise to Paola to give her our pictures and movies.
The Museum is the smallest museum I have ever saw in my life!
It "only" has one mid-size room plus a covered roof with some urban sculptures exhibited.
Entrance is free and we made the tour in less than 15 minutes.
I spoke to the museum’s functionary and they told me that they should move to a bigger place soon.
After the visit, we were tired for having walking a lot in the heat, and we decided to go to my hotel to have a small rest and a shower.
Once in my room, we run a low warm bath as it was quite hot outside and we both got in the bath. There, of course, Karen started to take care of me. I didn’t want it as I had a TLN planed with Paola for this night, but how can you say to such a beautiful girl that starts a delicious HJ to stop? I couldn’t and in no time I had my fingers in her pussy too.
I was so concentrate in not coming that I was able to resist the HJ, but once under the shower to rinse the soap, I had to enter her pussy, and then, in a question of minutes I was enable to handle it and came.
I was very worried, what would I be able to do later that night with Paola?
I’m not a young guy anymore, the kind of folks that can come 3 times a day and remain stiff after it again and again. Blue pills help but it is difficult for me.
A little further, we got dressed and left to the Parque Lleras where we had an appointment with Paola.
She had told me that she just had her walking cast off one day ago and that she was still walking with difficulties.
The date was at the restaurant Al rojo, on the Lleras parquet and we sat down and wait for Paola to arrive.
When she finally arrived, I could see that she indeed had problem to walk. Poor girl! She couldn’t put her weight on her foot without pain.
But she could reach the table and sat down with us. I have to say that having supper with both of them is something I really enjoy, Who can have a nice supper with 2 mistress in a nice restaurant each of us knowing about our relation?
We ordered drinks and they had meat while I had a sea bass.
Once the supper finished, we all went in the same taxi and he took us directly to my hotel, there, I gave Karen 20K to pay the taxi back to her home (I had given her 100K before we left my room for her day +++ with me).
I crossed the hall of the San Fernando Plaza with Paola at my arm (she was limping), and, as usual, they didn’t ask a thing. We then went directly to my room.
We quickly took our clothes off and I was still worry about my capacity to take good care of Paola after coming a few hours before.
I took a Sildenafil and we start our games.
She loves my tongue and I love to give her strong DATY, what else can I ask for a start? She came as every time I have been with her, at her own rhythm with no rush, slowly and deeply. When she had her orgasm, I wanted to keep sucking, but she is like me: When she comes, it’s so strong that she can’t bear any additional sucking. She has to calm down first.
I let her recover for 3 minutes and then start in missionary. It was very good but I quickly lost my stiffness.
When I called Paola to come for a TLN with me, I explained (and insisted) that this time, she would have to let me enter her ass. But I was really worried as I was totally unable to enter her ass even if it would have been widely opened as I was so soft.
I was so desperate that I took a second blue pill and ask her to blow me.
After a while I was half stiff and I could screw a little bit. Unfortunately, she was very dry and she was having a bad time, complaining that I was hurting her.
She had an all month without screwing due to her accident and her walking cast, and she was irritated.
It was clearly not a pleasure. She had a cream but it was not a sexual cream so the lub power was very poor.
After a while, she asked me if she could blow me? I said sure and she started her favorite BBBJ. I mean, she really loves to blow and she does it really good.
But something was missing for my happiness, and I asked her to finger my ass while she was blowing.
She did it for a good while and I asked her to put me a second finger.
That was my first time with 2 fingers. Paola was afraid of hurting me but I was really feeling well and asked her to proceed.
I was really in heaven, I mean I love to be sucked and fingered and I was having 2 fingers in my ass that I could strongly feel!
Unfortunately, even like this, I was very far to come and I was feeling tired.
So, I decided to use my laptop and put some porn on it and asked Paola to keep blowing and fingering.
And then, at last, I was able to reach climax!
After that, a quick shower and a good night rest.
I was thinking that I had done nothing with her ass not even fingering it!
I woke up around 6am and so did Paola.
She told me that I had snored. I was very disappointed as I just had a surgery for this some days before.
We both went to the bath room and when I came back to the bed I was in a very good shape, having a strong erection and willing to screw.
We start all over again, but, as the night before, she was irritated and it was painful for her.
After some minutes, I finally got close form her hell’s door but she was not decided to let me enter.
But she had to. And with a lot of cream, moan and pain, I finally could enter her ass. I was very surprised she told me it was so painful as she was totally opened and I had no problem to get in. I mean that she was so opened that I could return into her ass without using my hands to force the entrance.
I think that I remained in her ass for a good 30 minutes doing her all the time. I really love it, doing her ass while I finger her pussy and feel it through my fingers and through my dick.
But I was still very far from coming. So, I repeat the same thing as the night before and had some porn on my laptop.
Then, back in her ass and then, at last, I could come good and strong.
We then showered again, and got our clothes on. I gave her 150K + 20K for her taxi. She didn’t want to have breakfast with me, so I took her till a taxi and kissed good bye.
I have made 4 movies from my meeting with Paola :
1) 2008-04-18_Mde-PaolaInHerAss-DATYISG.mp4
Size : 14,5Mo
Length : 1’54”
Quality : Ok, You’ll see how I lick that nice pussy, and the difficulties Paola had to shoot the movie.
2) 2008-04-18_Mde-PaolaInHerAss-BBBJISG.mp4
Size : 20,1Mo
Length : 2’37”
Quality : Ok, Paola is really a good blower
3) 2008-04-18_Mde-PaolaInHerAss-BBBJ&FingeringISG.mp4
Size : 91,2Mo
Length : 11’54”
Quality : Ok, I love to be fingered while she keeps blowing, and as you’ll see, Paola blows like a goddes!
[b]WARNING[/b]
If you don’t like to see a man receiving fingers in his ass, don’t download this movie!
4) 2008-04-18_Mde-PaolaInHerAss-Doggy&Ass.mp4
Size : 30,1Mo
Length : 3’56”
Quality : Average, due to poor light conditions, and the extreme difficulties I had to screw and record at the same time.
As my SteekR account is now full (1Go), I had to found another provider.
This one use exactly the same engine and hopefully will work just as well as SteekR.
Let me know if you have any problem.
[url]http://macle.voila.fr/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK5407483034035036a[/url]
Cheers
Ps : A few tricks.
The voila site is in French
Just click on the folder and it will show you a thumbnail for each movie.
If you click on the thumbnail, you will see the movie directly from the site.
If you click on Télécharger, you’ll download the movie on your computer.
Have fun.
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Paola, in her ass...
Some extra pictures of my meeting with Paola.
[b]Warning[/b]
The last picture (12) shows how I got fingered.
If you don't like that, don't watch it.
Just read the picture's title.
Thanks
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Speaking in Tungs
[b]monday, may 12. [/b] decided to ride north to take pictures of the city from the elevated metro platforms. at station acevedo i discovered what a metro-cable is: a cable car system attached to the metro line, extending up into the hills. it provides gorgeous views of the neighborhoods and city. at the top i exited the station to walk a couple blocks. when asked the metro security guard said it was safe to walk around. i figured "safe" was relative, in his case today it being safer than the 1980s and 1990s. i didn't wander off too far, turning around whenever punks on streetcorners appeared. by the end of the afternoon i had travelled the entire length of metroline1 from north to south.
[b]tuesday, may 13. [/b] vistited the museo de antioquia, botanical gardens and cementerio de san pedro. artist botero isn't that far off with his "gordo" sculptures; that's the way most people in the world are -- fat.
about 8pm i headed down to carrera 54 y av de greiff to take a look. haha! this place makes the mayorista street scene look high class! hanging out for a half hour i saw two fuckables, one a street-hardened slender negrita, the other a softer slender white chica. tired from the day's activity i called it a night, walking the eight blocks home.
[b] wednesday, may 14. [/b] resumed mongering with camilla, 22 years, of bell suite, 30k-30mins. a slender pretty mulatta. from the sound of the starting gun she was a firecracker. she didn't let up for the full 30 mins.
at 7:45pm i returned to cr 54 y av de greiff for some beers and a second look. spotted a superhot mulatta then she disappeared. while on a walk-a-round suddenly this cute girl emerged from a bar. i stood still. she smiled. i smiled. it's contract time. jennifer, 18 years young, 25k-30mins, 10k room. pliable, hardbody perfect, pure 8teenie.
at about 11pm i spotted another hottie emerging out of nowhere. she comes over. carolina, 18 years young, quoted 20k-30mins, 10k room. i buy us a round, treat her to a meal, walk to a hotel across the street. the hotel is diagonal from el faro; not far but far enough to give it a weird feel. i stopped at the entrance, looked back for fifteen seconds, scouting for warning signs. none. up i follow carolina.
three punks run the hotel lobby. 10k paid. to the third floor. past an open room where a bunch of young punks appear to be gambling. this is peripheral vision working, direct stares are off limits. our room is at the end of the hall. what the? it's not a rental room, it is where she lives with another girl. a coke dealer is dishing out product to the other girl. carolina immediately dives in, sprinking powder on a pipe and lighting up. i decline the offer, trying to avoid the stink of chemical smoke. she told me to relax, wait, lie back. i did. after munching on food she's back to the pipe. her roommate shows no inclination of leaving, yapping away.
carolina's eyes and face are all fucked up now, the sweet 8teenie i thought i met on the street is gone, stolen by the divine wind of kamikaze-cocaine. she's asking for the 20k up front, wants another rum. i say no, sex first, money second. she leaves, comes back with a cigarette and pop. back to the pipe. okay, this is just stupid. again she asks "can i have the 20k?" no. i sigh. time to cut losses. i get up, walk to the door, open it and walk out. "papi?" she peeks through the door. i keep walking.
the lead lobby punk asked me what's up. i pretended to smoke and get all fucked up, shaking my head "no sex." he smiles knowingly, opens the padlock on the door and frees my soul. home i go, satisfied with two good pussies for the day.
[b]thursday, may 15. [/b] sampled camilla, 19 years, of venus, 30k-30mins. she looks more tahitian than colombian. cute but tame sex.
in the eve i visited conejitas strip club for some beers. a couple pretties but nah. these clubs irk me. must be the chicas asking for coins after every dance.
down to cr 54 y de greiff. ah, the hot mulatta is here! mileidy, 19 years young, 25k-60mins, 10k-30mins room. what a body: superslim, pretty face, tiny ass, with big jiggly tits. the combination is impossible but there she is, taking the cock, so she is real. maestro colblog1 shared pics post 2886.
[b]friday, may 16. [/b] second session with camilla, 22 years, of bell suite, 30k-30mins. after jumped on the second metroline to ride the new cable car. this one is five times better than the original, looking down on (poor) neighborhoods from on high, up one hill, down its backside, up another hill. what a brilliant idea.
at night i found the mayorista street scene to be slow. taxied to cr 54 y de greiff. after chatting with paola on the street (she wanted to buy me beers!), found 9teenie mileidy at 1:30am and had to sink my cock between those incredible ass cheeks again. home.
[b]saturday, may 17. [/b] hungover for most of the day, in a foul mood, i thought there was no way i was going to session. cr 54 y de greiff for a look, conejitas, then metroed to mayorista. with energy anew from 10:45 to 11:15pm i sexed petite jenny, perfect 8teenie, 25k-30mins, 10k room. after the session i met her 9teenie sister.
at about 11:45pm i noticed a slender girl in an orange dress. by 2:15am, fully recharged, after long looks, winks, i decided to invest. upon entering the room zoraida, 25 years, immediately gave me her tongue in some delicious french kissing. i dined at the y. mounted. we fucked for the next 45 minutes. a great session.
at 3:30am i was surprised to see the mayorista street scene still going strong. cabbed home for 8000p. zzzzzzzz.
[b]micro-medellin: is mayorista and centro safe? [/b]
in mayorista i don't feel threatened. i walk the streets behind and around the main scene carrying a beer in my hand. the few days i have visited (at least) two policemen are present; on friday and saturday (nights) the street is blocked off from traffic. i have seen no fights or disturbances. no doubt some violent acts do go down here, as some of the boys drink heavily and get fucked up, but for the most part what i have seen it is tame. i walk in to the area from the metro without problem, catching a 8-9000 peso taxi to central when i am done. some members write they stay along the strip of bars without wandering off into sidestreets; if you are new to medellin or simply want to maximize safety while browsing chicas that is good advice.
central is a different story. there have to be at least a few thousand homeless people bedding down on sidewalks every night. i have been staying in a centro hotel now for two weeks, walking the streets at all hours of the day and night (9am to 3am). i have had no troubles. but i do keep very aware of my surroundings at all times. and no, you couldn't pay me to be a blonde with blue eyes.
post 3179 (page51), by casa medellin, had me laughing out loud when i read it. he writes it apocalyptically but it is a good picture of the darker side of life here.
many homeless individuals indeed resemble forest-like animals, scavenging for food in garbage bins and piles. my first walk to carrera 54 y av de greiff on tuesday i passed one guy sitting on the ground. you know the fat and gristle scraps cut and garbaged by a butcher? he found a large garbage bag full of that, pure raw scraps, and was feasting like a king on filet mignon in a classy restaurant. he thought he hit big-time pay dirt. a half hour later, when i re-passed him on my way home, his buddies had joined him. goddamn sometimes i wish i could photograph these things.
not even five minutes later, at the end of carrera 53, i came across a small square piled high with garbage, a dozen guys busting open the bags and chowing down. mirroring casa medellin's thoughts, these guys truly are animal status -- as in borderline (thinking) human beings. their degree of abstraction is limited to about two to three seconds into the future and five meters in front of them.
when walking centro always be conscious of where they are around you, look up the street to determine your path and if need be cross the street to avoid them (single or in groups), walk on the outside of sidewalks or on medians (road dividers) to keep minimum safe distance. if you turn onto a street and there are too many homeless guys on it, do not be afraid to immediately turn around and choose another route -- or go back the route you came. while i consider them mainly to be simple creatures you never know when one might get a 29 cent / 3 liter jug of bad hooch, spiced with too much drano, and freak out while you are in proximity.
for medellin street perspective i find tom33, ricker and aussie greg's posts to be good sources of information (plus the odd post from someone else).
[b]macro-colombia: a perspective[/b]
for the last two years i have been listening to dozens of travellers say "colombia is safe!" all i have to say is: fuck off. mirroring the thoughts of other board members i too am weary of individuals trying to downplay the risks of colombia. yes today is better compared to what it was but the country's murder rate is still very high -- never mind all the other crime stats.
there is one thing i find lacking on the isg-colombia forum(s). there is a lot of chatter about how dangerous colombia is -- individual cities like cali, bogota, medellin, the countryside, etc. -- but i have yet to find a hard reference to what individuals may be familiar with. give me context! how [i]dangerous[/i] is dangerous? what are the specifics? lonely planet writes "murders are down 40%." so does that mean in 2002 there were ten people murdered, in 2007 only six? hardly. generic statements like this are misleading and annoying.
on the isg-rio crime & safety board i once broke down the numbers to prove what country was more dangerous, brazil or the us. time to do the same thing for colombia and the us. here are the official numbers for colombia:
countrywide murders 2007: 15,400 (citizens only, not including combat deaths). population 44,000,000 makes for 35 murders per 100,000.
countrywide murders 2006: 17,206
countrywide murders 2005: 17,726.
countrywide murders 2003: 23,013
countrywide murders 2002: 28,837
the numbers for the united states are:
countrywide murders/manslaughters 2006: 17,034. population 301,000,000 makes for 5.7 murders per 100,000.
countrywide murders/manslaughters 2005: 16,900
first of all i trust the us numbers more than i do colombia's. each year in colombia i think there is an additional few thousand individuals who are slaughtered, shot, macheted, gutted, etc., then thrown into open pits like road kill -- and they never make the official police counts. but let us use what we have.
colombia has 14.6% of the us population yet has 90.4% of its murders.
put another way, colombia has 1/7 of the us population but 6x the murder rate.
if we extrapolated colombia to have an equal us population of 301,000,000 its murder rate at 35 per 100,000 would be the equivalent of 105,350 individuals per year (301,000,000 * 35 / 100,000 = x, x = 105350).
this is "safe" colombia in 2008.
how can i justify being here? it is simple: half lunacy, half rationality. in 2006 while in ecuador i watched uribe's re-election, then while travelling other s. american countries over the course of two years i waited for confirmation of the improving trend. i got it. uribe has two more years to go. while i would like to be optimistic about colombia's future i am wary of latin american politics: two steps forward, three steps back. is colombia's next president going to continue improvements? is it different for colombia this time around? i don't know. so i am sliding into colombia on the tail end of uribe's terms to take a look at the country.
for interest the latest city specific numbers i can find are: bogotá's kill rate is 23 per 100,000. cartagena is 22 per 100,000 (275 murders in 2006 using population 1,240,000). medellin 29 per 100,000 (2007 article). cali 65 per 100,000 (year unknown).
class is dismissed.
time to get some sun on sunday, shake these hangover cobwebs from the brain.
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[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Why don't you bring more cash with you and then when you run out, you hit the ATMs? That's what I do. The exchange rate for cash will probably still be better than the fees it sounds like you're getting whacked with.
David[/QUOTE]I just got back from Medellin a few weeks ago and I brought Dollars.
What a pain in the ass to change dollars into pesos, and they charge fees too.
I had to fill out three sets of papers, they took a photocopy of my passport and fingerprints.
Save yourself the trouble, take an ATM card instead.
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[quote=artisttyp]this all makes sense. *do you think me getting ass raped for about $8 per $200 transaction( x30 days) is better than losing 15% on the exchange rate ?
i am staying for a month and i can't see myself giving these assholes $8 everytime i take my own money out.
i understand that other banks are in competition with each other but even citibank now charges for atm fees.
i do not feel comfortable traveling with a credit card offered by some rinky dink bank. chase is known world wide and their reputation is good. oddly enough i feel very secure with chase and that is important to me.
does it matter if my bills are 100's or 50's ?
this was a great post. thank you rock harders. i enjoyed your santa cruz de la sierra post as well.[/quote]they would only change 100's for me.
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[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]Some extra pictures of my meeting with Paola.
[b]Warning[/b]
The last picture (12) shows how I got fingered.
If you don't like that, don't watch it.
Just read the picture's title.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Col,
Since you seem to like fingers and things up your ass, Have you ever thought about, or maybe you do already, try using a Vibrating anal plug or anal beads or ben wah balls or similar things like these? This might even enhance your pleasure even MORE if that is possible. p.s Thanks for your contributions AND most of all thanks for your WARNINGS about the photos of your anal play.
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Do girls accept US dollars?
In the D.R. the girls will take either dollars or pesos, doesn't matter to them really.
Do the colombian chicsa take dollars?
If not, is there an ATMat the MDE airport so i can get some quick pesos, especailly for my cab ride?
Thanks
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For MiamiHeatLuver
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Col,
Since you seem to like fingers and things up your ass, Have you ever thought about, or maybe you do already, try using a Vibrating anal plug or anal beads or ben wah balls or similar things like these? This might even enhance your pleasure even MORE if that is possible. p.s Thanks for your contributions AND most of all thanks for your WARNINGS about the photos of your anal play.[/QUOTE]Hi Miami.
No, I've never think about that.
I love to be fingered while the girl blows me.
Fingering alone is not that good to me.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Sixpaku Too]In the D.R. the girls will take either dollars or pesos, doesn't matter to them really.
Do the colombian chicsa take dollars?
If not, is there an ATMat the MDE airport so i can get some quick pesos, especailly for my cab ride?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I wouldn't pay ANY chica in ANY other country USD. Because pulling out dollars will attract lot of undesirable attention. There are plenty of ATMs right of the airport.
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[QUOTE=Sixpaku Too]In the D.R. the girls will take either dollars or pesos, doesn't matter to them really.
Do the colombian chicsa take dollars?[/QUOTE]Why would they want the hassle of a currency that depreciates daily that they then get burnt with the exchange penalty as well?
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[QUOTE=George0724]I just got back from Medellin a few weeks ago and I brought Dollars.
What a pain in the ass to change dollars into pesos, and they charge fees too.
I had to fill out three sets of papers, they took a photocopy of my passport and fingerprints.
Save yourself the trouble, take an ATM card instead.[/QUOTE]That has to be the worst news I've ever heard while planning a trip. I am there for a month.
Can you tell me what kind of a fee they charge per $100 ?
What can I do ? Are there certain machines that let you take out more than others ?
This is horrible.
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[QUOTE=Sixpaku Too]In the D.R. the girls will take either dollars or pesos, doesn't matter to them really.
Do the colombian chicsa take dollars?
If not, is there an ATMat the MDE airport so i can get some quick pesos, especailly for my cab ride?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Do NOT introduce Dollars as a method of paying in Colombia! If they did or could things would get way out of hand even more than they are now by asking for $100+ dollar pops and things like that, You will be opening a PANDORAS BOX to the worst extreme. This is not C. R. Or D. R. To tell you the truth I don't even know why your paying the Dominican Hoes Dollars as well, Instead of the usual 1000 pesos ST and 1500-1800 TLN as well. As far as ATM's go hop in the cab an either stop at the ATM at the Gas station Half way to Medellin on the left side OR wait till you get into the city and stop at a reputable bank. ALSO I would never take $ out at the ATM at the airport for fear of someone seeing me and tailing me and the cab or even being "set up" by the Taxista which is very unlikely but then again NOT unheard of and ANYTHING goes in Colombia.
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[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Do NOT introduce Dollars as a method of paying in Colombia! If they did or could things would get way out of hand even more than they are now by asking for $100+ dollar pops and things like that, You will be opening a PANDORAS BOX to the worst extreme. This is not C. R. Or D. R. To tell you the truth I don't even know why your paying the Dominican Hoes Dollars as well, Instead of the usual 1000 pesos ST and 1500-1800 TLN as well. As far as ATM's go hop in the cab an either stop at the ATM at the Gas station Half way to Medellin on the left side OR wait till you get into the city and stop at a reputable bank. ALSO I would never take $ out at the ATM at the airport for fear of someone seeing me and tailing me and the cab or even being "set up" by the Taxista which is very unlikely but then again NOT unheard of and ANYTHING goes in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I agree. You don't pay the taxista at the airport anyway. Have the taxista take you to a Davivienda ATM near your hotel before arrival at your hotel.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]That has to be the worst news I've ever heard while planning a trip. I am there for a month.
Can you tell me what kind of a fee they charge per $100 ?
What can I do ? Are there certain machines that let you take out more than others ?
This is horrible.[/QUOTE]I've never had them even look at my money before. I break it up between locations (on me, carry on, etc.).
Sounds like some bad luck.
David
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[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Do NOT introduce Dollars as a method of paying in Colombia! If they did or could things would get way out of hand even more than they are now by asking for $100+ dollar pops and things like that, You will be opening a PANDORAS BOX to the worst extreme. This is not C. R. Or D. R. To tell you the truth I don't even know why your paying the Dominican Hoes Dollars as well, Instead of the usual 1000 pesos ST and 1500-1800 TLN as well. As far as ATM's go hop in the cab an either stop at the ATM at the Gas station Half way to Medellin on the left side OR wait till you get into the city and stop at a reputable bank. ALSO I would never take $ out at the ATM at the airport for fear of someone seeing me and tailing me and the cab or even being "set up" by the Taxista which is very unlikely but then again NOT unheard of and ANYTHING goes in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Not sure it deserves such drama, however, it would not be smart to pay girls in dollars right now as you'd be taking a big hit. With the dollar so poor, the girls aren't going to favor it anyways more than likely. The smarter ones will demand a suitable exchange rate (i've had them do this before).
Not everyone with dollars is a gringo. I live in Ecuador where the dollar is used as the country's currency. There's plenty of reasons why people would be carrying dollars.
I wouldn't flash my money in public and show off, but I believe you're being a bit paranoid.
David
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Reports Moved
[blue]Greetings everyone,
The latest series of reports regarding the homicide rates in Colombia was starting to look like the Colombia Serial Antagonists had found yet another backdoor subject that they could use to discourage anyone from visiting Colombia. Previous subjects that were attempted to be used for the same purpose included safe sex complaints and criticizing other member's photos.
In any event, I moved the entire subject to a new thread at this location:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2871[/url]
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Do NOT introduce Dollars as a method of paying in Colombia! [/QUOTE]Nothing we do is going to influence much of anything in Colombia. Outside of the tourist zone in Cartagena no one will accept US dollars for anything in Colombia anyway. If you do, by chance, find anyone who would accept Dollars, you would be paying a heavy premium (in terms of a poor exchange rate) for doing so.
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[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Greetings everyone,
The latest series of reports regarding the homicide rates in Colombia was starting to look like the Colombia Serial Antagonists had found yet another backdoor subject that they could use to discourage anyone from visiting Colombia. Previous subjects that were attempted to be used for the same purpose included safe sex complaints and criticizing other member's photos.
In any event, I moved the entire subject to a new thread at this location:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2871[/url]
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]Hi Jackson,
I'm not sure. The message I was getting was that whilst rates are high, they are comparable to some US cities. Nothing that needs hiding away I think: folks should know some element of common sense is called for but if they would be happy to visit. For example, Baltimore, then there's no reason to not visit Colombia. And the latter is a hell of a lot more fun of course. I don't think we need to be scared to say that do we?
(Should I be making this comment here or in the new thread? Feel free to put it where you think best)
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Hi ATW,
Actually, this probably would have been better posted in the new thread, but I already have too much work to do today.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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[QUOTE=Davidb3069]I've never had them even look at my money before. I break it up between locations (on me, carry on, etc.).
Sounds like some bad luck.
David[/QUOTE]I don't understand your comment. I was asking about the *fee per $100 changed.
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Ok, I will not use Dollars
Ok, I've got the message. I won't use Dollars. I appreciate all the answers, I'm glad I asked first.
Anther question. I found out Verizon doesnt work in Medellin. Does anyone have ideas what I can do? Is renting a phone a hassle? Or does anyone have any experience with the track phone. Meaning is it compatible to use a SIM card from Medellin. The phone I have has a blocked SIM card. So I can't switch it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm off to Medellin tomorrow morning.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]That has to be the worst news I've ever heard while planning a trip. I am there for a month.
Can you tell me what kind of a fee they charge per $100 ?
What can I do ? Are there certain machines that let you take out more than others ?
This is horrible.[/QUOTE]This is simple. Don't bring Dollars to medellin for spending money on your trips unless you plan to spend more than $400 (or whatever your daily debit card limit is) per day.
Use your debit card at the ubiquitous (thats english for everywhere) ATMs all over the city for these reasons:
1. Its easy and readily available no matter where you are staying.
2. You get the best rate...period.
3. You will never have to worry about where to keep all the money you have either before you change in your dollars or after because you will only be walking around with $400 plus whatever you didn't spend for previous days.
Now lots of folks post stuff like, "In the (insert name of place other than medellin here) I pay with (insert name of currency other than colombian pesos here) or dollars it doesn't matter".
That is wonderful information for (insert name of place other than medellin here), but it is just a fabulous waste of spce and time on the MEDELLIN reports thread.
I sometimes spend more than $400 when I am there and I still don't bring any dollars. I simply opened another bank account at the bank right down the street from my house. Before my trips, (next time May 28 - June 2 YAY!) I take out some cash from my regular bank and deposit it in the bank near my home. While I am there I tell them that I am going to be traveling to medellin so they don't get froggy when the see the money getting taken out of my US account in a foreign country and shut down the card.
Presto! I can now spend $800 per day if I want or need to. At some banks you can just get them to raise the daily limit on your debit card and not have to involve a second bank at all.
Now, you may be saying to yourself, "Self, why should I spend the time opening a whole new bank account when I can just spend that time changing the dollars once I get to Medellin?"
The answer to that very good question is (in addition to the 3 reasons listed above) is that you want to waste time doing silly errands during you regular life NOT while you are on vacation.
Look at it this way...you can spend time doing silly errands when you would otherwise be sitting at home in front of the TV or computer...or you you can waste time doing silly errands when you would otherwise be banging ridiculously hot, young paisas...your call.
Shafty7
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[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Not sure it deserves such drama, however, it would not be smart to pay girls in dollars right now as you'd be taking a big hit. With the dollar so poor, the girls aren't going to favor it anyways more than likely. The smarter ones will demand a suitable exchange rate (i've had them do this before).
Not everyone with dollars is a gringo. I live in Ecuador where the dollar is used as the country's currency. There's plenty of reasons why people would be carrying dollars.
I wouldn't flash my money in public and show off, but I believe you're being a bit paranoid.
David[/QUOTE]Nah, Then we just have to agree to disagree! Having a non chalant attitude / complacincy can lead future problems. A smart monger / tourist or whatever you are will surely lead to prosperarity.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I don't understand your comment. I was asking about the *fee per $100 changed.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I was commenting on the comment someone made about their money getting counted, being fingerprinted and getting their passport copied.
David
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[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Nah, Then we just have to agree to disagree! Having a non chalant attitude / complacincy can lead future problems. A smart monger / tourist or whatever you are will surely lead to prosperarity.[/QUOTE]The main thing is use common sense. I have traveled to Colombia a number of times and the people that get themselves in trouble are usually the ones getting totally skunked or stupid (or careless / or showing off).
David
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[QUOTE=Sixpaku Too]Ok, I've got the message. I won't use Dollars. I appreciate all the answers, I'm glad I asked first.
Anther question. I found out Verizon doesnt work in Medellin. Does anyone have ideas what I can do? Is renting a phone a hassle? Or does anyone have any experience with the track phone. Meaning is it compatible to use a SIM card from Medellin. The phone I have has a blocked SIM card. So I can't switch it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm off to Medellin tomorrow morning.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I find AT&T to have the best service in South America. Verizon has very limited coverage.
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[QUOTE=Shafty 7]This is simple. Don't bring Dollars to medellin for spending money on your trips unless you plan to spend more than $400 (or whatever your daily debit card limit is) per day.
Use your debit card at the ubiquitous (thats english for everywhere) ATMs all over the city for these reasons:
1. Its easy and readily available no matter where you are staying.
2. You get the best rate...period.
3. You will never have to worry about where to keep all the money you have either before you change in your dollars or after because you will only be walking around with $400 plus whatever you didn't spend for previous days.
Now lots of folks post stuff like, "In the (insert name of place other than medellin here) I pay with (insert name of currency other than colombian pesos here) or dollars it doesn't matter".
That is wonderful information for (insert name of place other than medellin here), but it is just a fabulous waste of spce and time on the MEDELLIN reports thread.
I sometimes spend more than $400 when I am there and I still don't bring any dollars. I simply opened another bank account at the bank right down the street from my house. Before my trips, (next time May 28 - June 2 YAY!) I take out some cash from my regular bank and deposit it in the bank near my home. While I am there I tell them that I am going to be traveling to medellin so they don't get froggy when the see the money getting taken out of my US account in a foreign country and shut down the card.
Presto! I can now spend $800 per day if I want or need to. At some banks you can just get them to raise the daily limit on your debit card and not have to involve a second bank at all.
Now, you may be saying to yourself, "Self, why should I spend the time opening a whole new bank account when I can just spend that time changing the dollars once I get to Medellin?"
The answer to that very good question is (in addition to the 3 reasons listed above) is that you want to waste time doing silly errands during you regular life NOT while you are on vacation.
Look at it this way...you can spend time doing silly errands when you would otherwise be sitting at home in front of the TV or computer...or you you can waste time doing silly errands when you would otherwise be banging ridiculously hot, young paisas...your call.
Shafty7
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All restaurants take credit cards if need be.
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Celly in Medellin
[QUOTE=Sixpaku Too]Ok, I've got the message. I won't use Dollars. I appreciate all the answers, I'm glad I asked first.
Anther question. I found out Verizon doesnt work in Medellin. Does anyone have ideas what I can do? Is renting a phone a hassle? Or does anyone have any experience with the track phone. Meaning is it compatible to use a SIM card from Medellin. The phone I have has a blocked SIM card. So I can't switch it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm off to Medellin tomorrow morning.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Bring an unlocked GSM phone with you. If you don't have one, buy one on Ebay.
You can get a sim card for 10K down there and buy regular tarjetas.
I was staying at the mansion and they did this for me. (They sent nando)
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[QUOTE=Malodr]All restaurants take credit cards if need be.[/QUOTE]You might want to be careful using CCs in restaurants. There is too great an opportunity for cloning. I mostly just use CCs for stores and hotels where they swipe the card in front of me and hand it back.
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[QUOTE=Malodr]I don't think I ever spent $400 a day in Medellin. The casas are only $15 - $25 and an all nighter runs about $60-$70?
All restaurants take credit cards if need be.[/QUOTE]I seldom use my credit cards in foreign countries if at all possible due to many problems (admittedly anecdotal) I have witnessed with the card numbers being used for identity theft and aslo because of the fees that my American miles card charges for currency exchange.
I don't want to get into another pointless price wars argument here but, there is a continuum of p4p pricing in medellin and the $15-$25 casa is near the low end of that price continuum. By definition that means some folks are paying more.
Shafty7
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[QUOTE=Tom 33]You might want to be careful using CCs in restaurants. There is too great an opportunity for cloning. I mostly just use CCs for stores and hotels where they swipe the card in front of me and hand it back.[/QUOTE]I just signed onto "chase mobile" which will allow me access to my checking account balance and credit card statements as I am roaming. I've tried it here in the states and it works great. It works on the sms text message system so it should work anywhere I have service.
As long as I have access to my information I would feel a little better about using my credit card. I totally agree with tom 33 but cc's get really tempting to use when you travel. The fees they charge you are not nearly as high as atm fees. At least not with my account.
I have decided to suck it up and put aside money for atm fees. It really pisses me off but I do not want it to be the focal point of my trip. Getting my face into some morena snatch is way more important.
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[QUOTE=Tom 33]You might want to be careful using CCs in restaurants. There is too great an opportunity for cloning. I mostly just use CCs for stores and hotels where they swipe the card in front of me and hand it back.[/QUOTE]I agree My AMEX got cloned in colombia they ended up getting $7,000 before amex stopped the charges. Exito,liquor store, all kinds of crap. I try to stay with cash or ask for that wireless machine that they bring out.
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If you have problems with credit card and and ATM fees, try CapitalOne. There are no fees with their cards, not even an international transaction fee. I have been using both cards (CC and ATM) in Colombia since October. And you even get FF miles on the CC.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I just signed onto "chase mobile" which will allow me access to my checking account balance and credit card statements as I am roaming. I've tried it here in the states and it works great. It works on the sms text message system so it should work anywhere I have service.
As long as I have access to my information I would feel a little better about using my credit card. I totally agree with tom 33 but cc's get really tempting to use when you travel. The fees they charge you are not nearly as high as atm fees. At least not with my account.
I have decided to suck it up and put aside money for atm fees. It really pisses me off but I do not want it to be the focal point of my trip. Getting my face into some morena snatch is way more important.[/QUOTE]I like my Bank of America ATM card. They send me an email with EVERY transaction. If anything funny is going on, I will know right away. And it has a limit of up to $1,500 per day (you have to ask for this limit).
David
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I find AT&T to have the best service in South America. Verizon has very limited coverage.[/QUOTE]I too have AT&T/Cingular service and although I've used it in several countries while roaming, it's EXPENSIVE. It's $2 in most places per minute, as you know. Makes for a good emergency phone though. If I spend enough time in a country, I usually buy a local cellphone.
David
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True Story
I finally made it here to Medellin yesterday.
Anyways I went to Fase 2 last night. WAY OVERATED. I read all the posts about how hot the women were. Yes they are a handful of very good looking women, TRUE. But you guys made it seem like there were like a dozen 10's walking around. And belivee me I don't have such high standards. I'm not too picky at all. Didn't see anyone that I HAD to have. So after paying 24000 pesos for 2 local beers in a can (UMBELIEVABLE), I headed off to Sand Diego club. Now heres the part that is going to amaze you. I was hanging out a hot chick, that I would rate an 8. 5, maybe 9 with the beers going down. She had a GREAt attitude. Let me rub her leg, kiss her cheeks etc. While we just sat and hung out for a little over an hour. Hers the conversation:
Chica: So what do you want to do now?
Me: Lets go back to my apartment and have a good time.
Chica: OK, Great. ITs 150,000 pesos to take me out.
Me: Ok, no problem.
Chica: Plus 300 for me.
Me: Excuse me, you mean 30,000 pesos...right???
Chica: No, I mean 300,000.
Me¨Colombain pesos??
Chica: Yes
Me: HAHAHA....youre joking right?
Chica: No
After that conversation, I told her no way, and she politely got up and left. Guys she wanted me to spend 450, 000!
Now, what am I missing here? Amazing!
Anyways. Anyone have stripclub I can go to tonight. Besides the 2 formentioned.
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[QUOTE=Davidb3069]I too have AT&T/Cingular service and although I've used it in several countries while roaming, it's EXPENSIVE. It's $2 in most places per minute, as you know. Makes for a good emergency phone though. If I spend enough time in a country, I usually buy a local cellphone.
David[/QUOTE]I use it only for emergency situations. I have an unlimited international blackberry plan and an un locked gsm phone for local sim card use.
The point is you have service in SA with att&t unlike verizon.
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[QUOTE=Sixpaku Too]I finally made it here to Medellin yesterday.
Anyways I went to Fase 2 last night. WAY OVERATED. I read all the posts about how hot the women were. Yes they are a handful of very good looking women, TRUE. But you guys made it seem like there were like a dozen 10's walking around. And belivee me I don't have such high standards. I'm not too picky at all. Didn't see anyone that I HAD to have. So after paying 24000 pesos for 2 local beers in a can (UMBELIEVABLE), I headed off to Sand Diego club. Now heres the part that is going to amaze you. I was hanging out a hot chick, that I would rate an 8. 5, maybe 9 with the beers going down. She had a GREAt attitude. Let me rub her leg, kiss her cheeks etc. While we just sat and hung out for a little over an hour. Hers the conversation:
Chica: So what do you want to do now?
Me: Lets go back to my apartment and have a good time.
Chica: OK, Great. ITs 150,000 pesos to take me out.
Me: Ok, no problem.
Chica: Plus 300 for me.
Me: Excuse me, you mean 30,000 pesos...right???
Chica: No, I mean 300,000.
Me¨Colombain pesos??
Chica: Yes
Me: HAHAHA....youre joking right?
Chica: No
After that conversation, I told her no way, and she politely got up and left. Guys she wanted me to spend 450, 000!
Now, what am I missing here? Amazing!
Anyways. Anyone have stripclub I can go to tonight. Besides the 2 formentioned.
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[QUOTE=Sixpaku Too]I finally made it here to Medellin yesterday.
Anyways I went to Fase 2 last night. WAY OVERATED. I read all the posts about how hot the women were. Yes they are a handful of very good looking women, TRUE. But you guys made it seem like there were like a dozen 10's walking around. And belivee me I don't have such high standards. I'm not too picky at all. Didn't see anyone that I HAD to have. So after paying 24000 pesos for 2 local beers in a can (UMBELIEVABLE), I headed off to Sand Diego club. Now heres the part that is going to amaze you. I was hanging out a hot chick, that I would rate an 8. 5, maybe 9 with the beers going down. She had a GREAt attitude. Let me rub her leg, kiss her cheeks etc. While we just sat and hung out for a little over an hour. Hers the conversation:
Chica: So what do you want to do now?
Me: Lets go back to my apartment and have a good time.
Chica: OK, Great. ITs 150,000 pesos to take me out.
Me: Ok, no problem.
Chica: Plus 300 for me.
Me: Excuse me, you mean 30,000 pesos...right?
Chica: No, I mean 300,000.
Me¨Colombain pesos??
Chica: Yes
Me: HAHAHA....youre joking right?
Chica: No
After that conversation, I told her no way, and she politely got up and left. Guys she wanted me to spend 450, 000!
Now, what am I missing here? Amazing!
Anyways. Anyone have stripclub I can go to tonight. Besides the 2 formentioned.
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it has been that way for a long time. Do the chicas on site in san Diego for less than the salida! I stay away from Fase dos.
try Maracaibo in Centro, it is a bunch of divey strip clubs close to each other. Apoteosis, but the talent is hit and miss. The Torre show by estadio might be ok, but only a few chicas except on the weekends.
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I know 30,00 is too little...
[QUOTE=Papi Que Rico]Sure 450, 000 is crazy, but 30, 000 for the night (if that's what you meant) is too little. If you want to get cheap overnighters you'll need to find them in cheaper places, like the lower scale casas. Still, I doubt you will get a chica to your place for 30 Gs. 100, 000 TLN is probably more realistic.[/QUOTE]
You misunderstood Papi Rico. When she mentioned 300, I was so shocked that I thought maybe she meant to say 30, 00. Also remember that part of the salida of 150, 000. Goes to her. Right? Of course iw ouldnt expect anyone to go just for 30,000.
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The chocha economy in San Diego is utterly ridiculous. I would have to tap the ass up in the club if I wanted it bad enough. And I agree. The Centro clubs are more reasonable in terms of pricing. And believe it or not, the chicas are not that much different.
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Bogota is better for p4p.
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Fase Dos.....San DIego
[QUOTE=Kdogg21]it has been that way for a long time. Do the chicas on site in san Diego for less than the salida! I stay away from Fase dos.
try Maracaibo in Centro, it is a bunch of divey strip clubs close to each other. Apoteosis, but the talent is hit and miss. The Torre show by estadio might be ok, but only a few chicas except on the weekends.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen,
If one were to read the forum, it has been known for some time now that Fase Dos is not the cheapest place for a piece of ass. Most of the women in this establishment do not exactly provide GFE. That being said, there are some very fine looking women there. A very popular phrase in the year 2008 applies very well to this place, "It is what it is".
Also, keep an eye on the waiters, they are pretty slick. I usually tip them from the get go, and I have not been jipped yet.
San Diego used to be a great deal a couple of years ago. But lately it has increased in price, but not talent. I have friends that still have some fun in there, but not as much as before.
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[QUOTE=Papi Que Rico]Sure 450, 000 is crazy, but 30, 000 for the night (if that's what you meant) is too little. If you want to get cheap overnighters you'll need to find them in cheaper places, like the lower scale casas. Still, I doubt you will get a chica to your place for 30 Gs. 100, 000 TLN is probably more realistic.[/QUOTE]Truth is, you can get a chica TLN for free if you know what your doing.
Might cost you a dinner and a couple drinks, but it's fun.
I do it all the time with chicas I meet at the casas. You just have to be able to turn the relationship from one of pro and client to more of a friendship plus relationship.
Anyway, no matter what anyone wants to believe or say, places like San Diego have gotten way out of hand in Medellin.
I liked it back when it was just a simple dive bar with uncomplicated, sweet chicas working there.
I also miss all the street chicas that used to surround the place. That was always fun too.
Oh well, still lots of hidden gems around, you just have to hunt a bit more than before.
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Another Experience
Ok. So I decided to walk around Centro all day yesterday. Place was packed with people. Stopped off at Bella Suite, had a good expereince then decided to hit the stripclubs on Macaibo ave. Now I knew it was early. 5 pmish. I went to the stripclub called Barra Ejecutivo. Only 4 chicks there at this time. , . 2 were outright horrible, the other 2 were cute, but not my cup of tea. I stayed for a few beers. About an hour or so. Then I went to the one next door. Think its called Maracaibo Club. Or something like that!
OK, so heres where things get good and nutty. At that time there were only 3 girls, but one was definetly my cup of tea. She was dark skin, real long legs, and 6'1 in 3 inch heels. As good looking as any girls in Fase 2 or San Diego. So, I spent the next 4 plus hours at the table by the satge with her ordering half bottles of whiskey all night, kissing her face, rubbing here, basically molesting her. Eventually another chica joined us for fun (we'll call her Chica 2). I'm ordering drinks and buying the chicas cigarettes everytime the guy comes in selling them. Not just for these 2. But any other dancer who stops by, asking for a shot of the whisket. Of course I oblige, I felt like a pimp. LOL. Loving it. I admit I must of spent about 300, 000 pesos in all this. Now Chica 2 who joined me and the tall chica, was with hus for a good hour and half, seemed sweet and fun. After about 90 minutes she makes her MOVE. She tried to Pickpocket me, as my main chica was dancing and literally shaking her ass on my face. I keep my money in an inside pocket just for this reason. So, as I'm enjoying my dance, I literally see her emptying my pocket. I don't say a word, I just let her do it. She take sout a piece of scrap paper, then some gum, then a condom. Then BAM! I grab her hand and flip out on her. I call over the waiter (who I have been tipping ALL night well). Tell him that the chica was trying steal my money. The waiter was livid, he ordered the chica to the changing room. And called the manager. I told the manager what happened, explained to him how much money I've spent, and told him if she doesnt leave, then I'm leaving. He went to the chica with me and asked if it was true. In defense of the chica, she didn't deny it all, she stared blankly at the floor with shame. I actually felt a littl bad for her. Then I went back to my seat, and 15 minutes later I see here dressed in her street clothes as she gets kicked out. Don't think I'm a chump, but I almost wanted to forgive her, she looked devestated. I really felt bad for her.
Basically the staff there handled it professionaly, and did the right thing for the customer (Me), which one does not see too often in these places.
That all Folks.
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Ricker,
Remember the night when we walked out side SD and brought all the street chicks a packet of chips !! its changed since then hey.
Yes Medellin has changed.
Aussie Greg
[QUOTE=Ricker]Truth is, you can get a chica TLN for free if you know what your doing.
Might cost you a dinner and a couple drinks, but it's fun.
I do it all the time with chicas I meet at the casas. You just have to be able to turn the relationship from one of pro and client to more of a friendship plus relationship.
Anyway, no matter what anyone wants to believe or say, places like San Diego have gotten way out of hand in Medellin.
I liked it back when it was just a simple dive bar with uncomplicated, sweet chicas working there.
I also miss all the street chicas that used to surround the place. That was always fun too.
Oh well, still lots of hidden gems around, you just have to hunt a bit more than before.[/QUOTE]
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Maracaibo is good Kdogg but you really have to be careful in Centro.bGo with someone because it can get dicey there. If you want to see 'where the locals go' go to centro at night. There are few bars near Maracaibo but I would not go strolling around too far form that area.
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[QUOTE=Sixpaku Too]She tried to Pickpocket me, as my main chica was dancing and literally shaking her ass on my face. I keep my money in an inside pocket just for this reason. So, as I'm enjoying my dance, I literally see her emptying my pocket. I don't say a word, I just let her do it. She take sout a piece of scrap paper, then some gum, then a condom. Then BAM! I grab her hand and flip out on her.[/QUOTE]Not that good of a pickpocket I take it. I had a stripper in the US pickpocket me (and at least another half dozen guys, including an off-duty cop) one time. One guy was yelling looking his $400 after getting done with her and before he realized she had gotten him. My friend and I looked at each other and knew what happened. This chick was good at it. Her trick was she'd screw you (full sex) in the club and then she figured you wouldn't complain or call the cops. She was wrong.
David
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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Ricker,
Remember the night when we walked out side SD and brought all the street chicks a packet of chips! Its changed since then hey.
Yes Medellin has changed.
Aussie Greg[/QUOTE]Nothing like a buncha hos with chips stuck in their teeth and smelling of the chip-flavor to turn a guy on :)
David
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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Ricker,
Remember the night when we walked out side SD and brought all the street chicks a packet of chips !! its changed since then hey.
Yes Medellin has changed.
Aussie Greg[/QUOTE]Of course I remember Aussie!
I actually met you in the old San Diego and you bought me a chica cause I translated for you.
See ya muy pronto!
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[QUOTE=Sixpaku Too]Basically the staff there handled it professionaly, and did the right thing for the customer (Me), which one does not see too often in these places.
That all Folks.[/QUOTE]I think you still got taken. If the manager comped you bill, or at least half of it, then he would've done right by the customer. Otherwise, they are just letting these types situations go on.
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Decent cheap doctor in Medellin
Can anyone recommend a decently inexpensive doctor I can see as a walk-in? I'd like to get the basic tests, HIV, STD's, etc. Someone that speaks some English would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
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[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Nothing like a buncha hos with chips stuck in their teeth and smelling of the chip-flavor to turn a guy on :)
David[/QUOTE]Well, I think we bought them a jugo (juice) to wash down those chips :)
Truth is, and I'm sure you know this, you treat them nicely and they'll take good care of you.
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Can anyone recommend a decently inexpensive doctor I can see as a walk-in? I'd like to get the basic tests, HIV, STD's, etc. Someone that speaks some English would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]I wouldn't mind knowing this myself. Can I walk into any pharmacy and buy xanax or ambien without a script ?
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I wouldn't mind knowing this myself. Can I walk into any pharmacy and buy xanax or ambien without a script ?[/QUOTE]No you can't, drugs like xanax and valium etc are controlled substances in Colombia. You will need a prescription and have to show your cedular. Only certain pharmacies carry these medications that are controlled.
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Off the subject a bit
Hey guys, Just getting ready to book 6th trip in september. Have always stayed at the mansion, and will this time also, as I love room 11. Due to the declining dollar, however, am thinking about spending a couple of nights probably in el centro, to save some dinero. Does anyone have any suggestions on a lower priced option, which is chica friendly?
Thanks,
Ziggy
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Drugs
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I wouldn't mind knowing this myself. Can I walk into any pharmacy and buy xanax or ambien without a script ?[/QUOTE]Xanax is very restricted and very expensive in Colombia. My friend Larry just paid 240k for 90pills. I think about 1U.S. a piece. You can buy Ambien.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I wouldn't mind knowing this myself. Can I walk into any pharmacy and buy xanax or ambien without a script ?[/QUOTE]The answer is yes for ambien, but you must ask for it by it's clinical name, zolpidem. I stocked up at the pharmacy in the supermarket at the Olveida mall. I like getting the cylindrical pills, which can easily crack in half to get easy half doses.
You can try alprazolam if they don't know what xanax is.
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[QUOTE=Zig Monger]Hey guys, Just getting ready to book 6th trip in september. Have always stayed at the mansion, and will this time also, as I love room 11. Due to the declining dollar, however, am thinking about spending a couple of nights probably in el centro, to save some dinero. Does anyone have any suggestions on a lower priced option, which is chica friendly?
Thanks,
Ziggy[/QUOTE]Much safer in laurelas and you can get rooms at $35.
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[QUOTE=Artisto Art]Maracaibo is good Kdogg but you really have to be careful in Centro.bGo with someone because it can get dicey there. If you want to see 'where the locals go' go to centro at night. There are few bars near Maracaibo but I would not go strolling around too far form that area.[/QUOTE]I usually go there 2-3 times but we have a driver and there are 2-4 of us going.
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[QUOTE=Malodr]Much safer in laurelas and you can get rooms at $35.[/QUOTE]Thanks Malo.
Any suggestions?
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Can anyone recommend a decently inexpensive doctor I can see as a walk-in? I'd like to get the basic tests, HIV, STD's, etc. Someone that speaks some English would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Bump - someone here has got to know this.
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There is a new hostel by Parque Lleras [url]www.tigerpawhostel.com[/url] where you can get a private room for $35
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Traveling to Medellin
[QUOTE=Bonhead]Bump - someone here has got to know this.[/QUOTE]Hey guys, I need your pearls of wisdom.
I will be traveling to Medellin as my 1st monger vist. Will be staying at MM, I am struggling on how much cash to take vs. Using my CC or Debit Card. I have read don't use cash that much because of the exchange rate. Better to use atm's to get a better rate. However, I have also read that using my cc or debit card I run the risk of it being clonned or fraudulent charges. Can you guys shade some light and comments.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Mw1030]Hey guys, I need your pearls of wisdom.
I will be traveling to Medellin as my 1st monger vist. Will be staying at MM, I am struggling on how much cash to take vs. Using my CC or Debit Card. I have read don't use cash that much because of the exchange rate. Better to use atm's to get a better rate. However, I have also read that using my cc or debit card I run the risk of it being clonned or fraudulent charges. Can you guys shade some light and comments.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Depends on how long you plan on staying down there for. Usually I take along $400 cash (that I barely use), two debit cards (one has the visa logo, the other has the mastercard logo) and my Amex credit card. I bank with Citi and just hit their ATM's every other day and take out the max (800k COP).
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[QUOTE=Mw1030]Hey guys, I need your pearls of wisdom.
I will be traveling to Medellin as my 1st monger vist. Will be staying at MM, I am struggling on how much cash to take vs. Using my CC or Debit Card. I have read don't use cash that much because of the exchange rate. Better to use atm's to get a better rate. However, I have also read that using my cc or debit card I run the risk of it being clonned or fraudulent charges. Can you guys shade some light and comments.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I used my CC at restaurants over 5 trips and so far, no problems.
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[QUOTE=Zig Monger]Thanks Malo.
Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Just go to 70th in Laurelas, start at the Metro and you will pass about 12 hotels. I think the first on the left is about $35.
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My comment
[QUOTE=Mw1030]Hey guys, I need your pearls of wisdom.
I will be traveling to Medellin as my 1st monger vist. Will be staying at MM, I am struggling on how much cash to take vs. Using my CC or Debit Card. I have read don't use cash that much because of the exchange rate. Better to use atm's to get a better rate. However, I have also read that using my cc or debit card I run the risk of it being clonned or fraudulent charges. Can you guys shade some light and comments.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Bring $200.00 in $20.00 notes, and use your ATM at any Mall, you will be ok
Kukulkan
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Tiger Paw Hostel
[QUOTE=Beersterry]There is a new hostel by Parque Lleras [url]www.tigerpawhostel.com[/url] where you can get a private room for $35[/QUOTE]
I'm gonna take one for the team and try a night or two here next weekend. Got the private room for 65,000 COP. Will post report Sunday.
Will move from there to Laureles - and would welcome suggestions for hotel in that neighborhood in similar price range.
Mac
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Its only $10 to buy a Comcel/movistar sim in Colombia.
$40 for a basic nokia, if you dont have a GSM phone.
[QUOTE=Davidb3069]I too have AT&T/Cingular service and although I've used it in several countries while roaming, it's EXPENSIVE. It's $2 in most places per minute, as you know. Makes for a good emergency phone though. If I spend enough time in a country, I usually buy a local cellphone.
David[/QUOTE]
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Equador
Anyone know anything about Equador. Quito in paticular. Looks like I am heading that way soon.
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[QUOTE=Mw1030]Hey guys, I need your pearls of wisdom.
I will be traveling to Medellin as my 1st monger vist. Will be staying at MM, I am struggling on how much cash to take vs. Using my CC or Debit Card. I have read don't use cash that much because of the exchange rate. Better to use atm's to get a better rate. However, I have also read that using my cc or debit card I run the risk of it being clonned or fraudulent charges. Can you guys shade some light and comments.
Thanks[/QUOTE]You just have to suck it up and use the atm machines. There is no way around it.
Besides atm's I plan on using my credit card and checking my transactions on a daily basis. There is nothing else I can do.
I would bring some cash just for an emergency situation.
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[QUOTE=Mw1030]Hey guys, I need your pearls of wisdom.
I will be traveling to Medellin as my 1st monger vist. Will be staying at MM, I am struggling on how much cash to take vs. Using my CC or Debit Card. I have read don't use cash that much because of the exchange rate. Better to use atm's to get a better rate. However, I have also read that using my cc or debit card I run the risk of it being clonned or fraudulent charges. Can you guys shade some light and comments.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I would bring at least $400-500 in 100's as a backup plan and then try the ATMs. If you don't need the currency, you can always take it back home. Traveling overseas without some cash is asking for trouble. ATM networks are a frequent problem in these countries and the ATMs can be difficult to get to work with certain debit cards (even when the machine has your network symbol!). In Colombia, I've had to drive all the way across town to look for an ATM that works. Other times I luck out and find one right away. If you can, bring a visa and a mastercard debit/credit card that use different networks. That way if the machine rejects one card, you can try the other. Call your credit card issuers (bank) ahead of time and tell them exactly what dates you'll be in Colombia - otherwise they may very well freeze your card.
David
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Can anyone recommend a decently inexpensive doctor I can see as a walk-in? I'd like to get the basic tests, HIV, STD's, etc. Someone that speaks some English would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]If all you want are the tests, walk into any lab. They are all over. You don't need a doctor. Have someone write down the tests you want in Spanish and just hand the list to them. You pay up front and go back in 2 hours or 2 days or whatever they tell you for the results.
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[QUOTE=AirJunky]Anyone know anything about Equador. Quito in paticular. Looks like I am heading that way soon.[/QUOTE]Yep, the p4p seen isn't great but it is easier to pick up normal girls in clubs than Colombia.
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Looking for general info on life in Medellin
Is there anyone here who actually lives in Medellin. I would lie to speak and possibly meet up with someone that knows the overall life in Medellin, not just thee p4p sceene. I am an expat in Lima nw and considering moving to Medellin so I need real info on the city, apartments p4p and otherwise.
Thanks vaughnyb1
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[QUOTE=Tom 33]If all you want are the tests, walk into any lab. They are all over. You don't need a doctor. Have someone write down the tests you want in Spanish and just hand the list to them. You pay up front and go back in 2 hours or 2 days or whatever they tell you for the results.[/QUOTE]
Where would "you" go to get treated if you came down with an std ? Would the testing facility write you a prescription ?
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[QUOTE=Gary Groundwork]Yep, the p4p seen isn't great but it is easier to pick up normal girls in clubs than Colombia.[/QUOTE]We have over 101 chongos here in Quito (North, South, Central) according to a recent news article in the paper. Places are hit and miss and the girls move around but I would say it's better than a lot of places I've lived. If you can't find what you like here, you're not looking. There is a whole Ecuador/Quito forum on this same site. That's where you'll find the discussions for here.
David
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[QUOTE=Davidb3069]I would bring at least $400-500 in 100's as a backup plan and then try the ATMs. If you don't need the currency, you can always take it back home. Traveling overseas without some cash is asking for trouble. ATM networks are a frequent problem in these countries and the ATMs can be difficult to get to work with certain debit cards (even when the machine has your network symbol!). In Colombia, I've had to drive all the way across town to look for an ATM that works. Other times I luck out and find one right away. If you can, bring a visa and a mastercard debit/credit card that use different networks. That way if the machine rejects one card, you can try the other. Call your credit card issuers (bank) ahead of time and tell them exactly what dates you'll be in Colombia - otherwise they may very well freeze your card.
David[/QUOTE]Since 100s are counterfieter's favorites, I suggest taking 50s as well. I've seen signs where certain serial numbers on 100s will not be taken.
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A penny saved
I just got back from a trip to Medellin, and like every city I visit, I noticed that I ended up paying quite a bit less than everyone else in this forum. I say that not to anger, or offend anyone, but rather to offer assistance to all fellow Mongers. There is nothing at all special about me. I just happened to be fortunate enough to receive the best educational information for sex trade negotiating while knowing a Mexican Strip Club Owner in Prison several years ago. He gave me the run-down on how the entire process works, and I’ve found it to be true every time that I travel.
There are typically 3 classes of hookers in any country where Prostitution is legal. The first class is the Tourist Hookers. These are escort services, massage parlors, and strip joints that are close to the High-End Hotel District. The cost for these women is always outrageous. One reason is that everyone, all the way from the Bellman, Waiter, Cab Driver, etc. Gets a cut.
The next class are the hookers for wealthy locals. These are usually Strip Clubs that are just outside of the Central Business District. The price for these woman (although much less than the Tourist Hookers) is still pretty high.
The third class is of course the most Price Effective Hookers. These are Strip Joints, Sex Hotels, and Streetwalkers in the Red Light District. In Spanish-Speaking Countries, this area is known as "La Zona Roja". This is where you not only will find excellent prices, but also will get a true cultural taste of the Country you are visiting. You will also quickly notice that the quality of these women is no different than that of women in the first 2 categories. Most of these women come from rural areas, and are just up working in "The Big City" for a few weeks at a time before going back home. In other words, they are not nearly as used up as the true Pros in the other 2 categories.
The key, of course, is always finding the Red Light District while in a city that you are not accustomed to. What you will want to do, is ask an uninterested third party. Another way of saying this, is to never ask a cab driver, bellman, bartender, waiter, or anyone else that will get a "Referral Fee". Basically think of anyone that has frequent contact with tourists as someone who is not worthy of trustworthy information. You can simply strike up a conversation with someone at a bus stop, newsstand, etc. And find out not only where it is, but how much is a reasonable price to pay for the women.
If you decide to take a cab, you will always want to tell the driver that you are meeting friends, who are locals, at the strip club. This will not only cut out any upselling, but will also keep him from hovering around you in hopes of buying him a woman and beer for a tip.
Once you are in the strip club is where the "Meat and Potatoes" of the negotiating begins. Every hooker always has a dream of 3 things: To get some of your money now, to get you to mail her money later, and to eventually get you to bring her to the U. S. Fortunately, they’re usually not to bright, and therefore always have the same approach. They will tell you that they are new in the business, and that they have sick kids, parents, etc. To support. They will always come across as a "victim" as to why they are working in a brothel. Your job will now be to act like you not only give a shit about their supposed situation, but to also act like a complete idiot that is love-struck by them. Believe it or not, this will actually help you in the negotiation, in that they see you as a future meal ticket. Then, since you’ve already done your homework by asking the guy at the newsstand how much they should really cost, you will know to low-ball in hopes of meeting halfway. They will always give in. After all, not only is a little better than nothing, but they also don’t want to ruin their future meal ticket.
They typically plan on putting on some real pressure for "monthly assistance money" toward the end of your trip. I found this out the hard way when I had to threaten to call the police when one wouldn’t leave my room in TJ several years back. For this reason, you will always want to tell them that your vacation is a week longer than it really is.
Hope that this information helps! Always remember. You work hard for your money.
And most importantly, remember to be careful. The red light districts are always in really bad areas, and if that type of ambiance frightens you. It would probably be better to look elsewhere for a working girl. I have noticed that in many Central and South American Countries, "normal" women can also be bought. Once they start complaining about how hard financially their life is. This is your time to begin negotiating!
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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That's a great report. I would add that you are [b]never[/b] "here on vacation for X weeks. " Rather, you are here on a business project for an indefinite amount of time, and will probably be sent here again by your company, at some indefinite future time. Also, when returning from the zona roja, have the cab drop you off at some other hotel very close to yours, not your actual hotel.
Trabajo sí, vacacciones no.
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[QUOTE=Kukulkan]Bring $200.00 in $20.00 notes, and use your ATM at any Mall, you will be ok
Kukulkan[/QUOTE]Another option that I use sometiems it to have money wired before getting there. In Colombia I have friends that take care of that for me, but if you don't have someone you trust you can wire it to yourself. I wire 200 dollars in local currency at a 4% charge (banks atm withdrawals will charge you 3% everytime anyways. To me is worth the extra dollar to be certain to have cash asap with no problems). Exchange is most of the time even better than the bank rate. Have it sent to either a place you can access prompty from either the airport or near your hotel, or you can send it to bancolombia. All you have to do is show up to the place and get your cash.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Where would "you" go to get treated if you came down with an std ? Would the testing facility write you a prescription ?[/QUOTE]I would take the test results to any drug store. You don't need prescriptions for much of anything in Colombia. The druggist should be able to fix you up.
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How are Medellin girls compared to Quito girls
[QUOTE=Davidb3069]We have over 101 chongos here in Quito (North, South, Central) according to a recent news article in the paper. Places are hit and miss and the girls move around but I would say it's better than a lot of places I've lived. If you can't find what you like here, you're not looking. There is a whole Ecuador/Quito forum on this same site. That's where you'll find the discussions for here.
David[/QUOTE]David,
I have read both MDE and Quito forum before. Both seem to have their own beauties, given the pics posted. But MDE girls seem to be somewhat better nutritioned and dressed in many of the pics. Do you see any quality difference between the girls or it is mostly the dresses and makeups? Are Quito girls a bit more Indian lookwise, whereas MDE is a bit more caucasian lookwise?
Thank you.
Tom
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[QUOTE=Skug37]I just got back from a trip to Medellin, and like every city I visit, I noticed that I ended up paying quite a bit less than everyone else in this forum. I say that not to anger, or offend anyone, but rather to offer assistance to all fellow Mongers. [/QUOTE]Nice post. Good info. Gracias.
Not sure how you know that you paid quite a bit less than EVERYONE else in this forum though.
I'm in Medellin at the moment and I seem to be doing OK :)
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Signs?
Any one know how to tell if a girl really likes you or if shes sees you as a walking ATM machine. I'm kinda new to all this.
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[QUOTE=Latin Bound]Another option that I use sometimes it to have money wired before getting there. In Colombia I have friends that take care of that for me, but if you don't have someone you trust you can wire it to yourself. I wire 200 dollars in local currency at a 4% charge (bank ATM withdrawals will charge you 3% everytime anyways. To me is worth the extra dollar to be certain to have cash asap with no problems). Exchange is most of the time even better than the bank rate. Have it sent to either a place you can access prompty from either the airport or near your hotel, or you can send it to bancolombia. All you have to do is show up to the place and get your cash.[/QUOTE]My CapitalOne credit and debit cards charge nothing. And Colombia is lousy with ATM machines including all 6 Colombian airports that I have been in.
While this option may be a good idea for other countries, it is not needed in Colombia.
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Skug37 - interesting
You made some very good points but left out a lot of specifics. Where do you consider 'Zona Roja' is in Medellin? El Centro? San Diego? Which strip club are you speaking of where you can locate hooker class #3? Calle 53? My guess is that you have a good command of Spanish if you are going to talk to the local paperpushing office worker at the bus stop! I personally would feel uncomfortale chatting up a stranger about strip clubs and hookers, but that's just me. You said you are paying less but did not give any examples. Negotiating is standard practice, if the girl likes you they may accept slightly less. But like all women in the world, I find that they are unpredictable and sometimes lack any sense of marketing. I have been coming to Medellin for about 2 years now, meet some of the warmest, prettiest girls in the world and I have never had one of them ask me to sponsor them. They all just wanted to have a good time, have a guy treat them nicely and make some cash to buy some nice things for themselves. Your experience is obviously different.
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[QUOTE=Tom 33] Colombia is lousy with ATM machines including all 6 Colombian airports that I have been in.[/QUOTE]This is getting confusing. It has been mentioned that ATM's are the only way to go in colombia. Now you are saying they are lousy?
What would you suggest to someone needing cash at the airport ?
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On the Fence
My recent visit to Medellin had made me start thinking of it as a recommendation for anyone that is "on the fence" about mongering in Colombia. I remember a few months back, the entire Colombian Thread was ruined by a few people that kept trying to scare everyone from going to Colombia. There later turned out to be quite a bit of evidence that Hollywood was the only knowledge of Colombia that these people had. How nice it is that the trash has been taken out! More importantly, I’m hoping that all of those articles did not keep anyone from going to Colombia and having an excellent time.
Is there crime in Colombia? Of course! Is there crime anywhere? Of course! The one thing that Colombia has to offer however, that many other places do not, is some of the best Mongering in the world.
Now, I would hate to mislead anyone into becoming overconfident and getting hurt. Colombia does have more than it’s fair share of crime, and you will have to be careful. The one thing that you are not doing however, is walking into a Battle Zone. If you are from the U. S. , the one thing that you will be told over and over by Colombians, is that you may very well be safer than they are. It is said that The Colombian Police don’t want anything to happen to you, in that they don’t want anything to threaten their U. S. Aid. It is also said that The Mafia doesn’t want anything to happen to you, in that their production will slow down if Federal Officials start snooping around. Whether this is true or not, it is talked about by Colombian Residents as though it were an unwritten law.
By any means, if you are worried about danger, I would recommend Medellin. Although I prefer Cali, it is because I personally enjoy action. Medellin seemed to be a lot cleaner and organized. I frequented an area called "La Mayoria" which to the best of my knowledge, was the only place in Medellin where nobody stops at stoplights at night. This is a common practice in just about the entire city of Cali, in that everyone is scared of being car jacked if they are stopped at a light. Although I did not see the entire city of Medellin, the other areas that I had passed did not have this happening. In other words, if you would like safer areas, you will not want to go to La Mayoria.
Medellin also seemed to have lots of Mongering Spots in the more tranquil parts of the Downtown Area, which surprisingly enough were not too expensive, and appeared to be relatively safe and clean.
By any means, this is just my two cents worth. I would advise you to read other articles as well, talk with Forum Members, and also do your own research on Crime and Safety Tactics before making your decision. As I had indicated earlier, I would hate to mislead someone into a un unfitting situation. I would also feel equally bad however, if a fellow Monger were missing out on Colombian Poon!
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Lousy with ATM's
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]This is getting confusing. It has been mentioned that ATM's are the only way to go in colombia. Now you are saying they are lousy?
What would you suggest to someone needing cash at the airport ?[/QUOTE]Lousy with something (ATM's) is an American Euphemism that means that there are many of them.
It does not imply anything related to quality.
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Changing Dollars into COP's.
[QUOTE=TheKnife]Since 100s are counterfieter's favorites, I suggest taking 50s as well. I've seen signs where certain serial numbers on 100s will not be taken.[/QUOTE]When I was there in April and changed money, they would only accept 100's. This was at the cambio in the mall with the El Poblado Dominos.
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[QUOTE=Tom Lee]David,
I have read both MDE and Quito forum before. Both seem to have their own beauties, given the pics posted. But MDE girls seem to be somewhat better nutritioned and dressed in many of the pics. Do you see any quality difference between the girls or it is mostly the dresses and makeups? Are Quito girls a bit more Indian lookwise, whereas MDE is a bit more caucasian lookwise?
Thank you.
Tom[/QUOTE]Yeah you are right, girls from quito have more of an Indian look. Both cities have their share of beauties. The thing I like about quito was you can find a happening clubs from Tuesday to Saturday and normal girls in clubs are esaier to pick up! Like the p4p seen better in Medellin. Although I didn't explore itt hat much as I ahd my ahnds full with normal girls.
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[QUOTE=Skug37]My recent visit to Medellin had made me start thinking of it as a recommendation for anyone that is "on the fence" about mongering in Colombia. I remember a few months back, the entire Colombian Thread was ruined by a few people that kept trying to scare everyone from going to Colombia. There later turned out to be quite a bit of evidence that Hollywood was the only knowledge of Colombia that these people had. How nice it is that the trash has been taken out! More importantly, I’m hoping that all of those articles did not keep anyone from going to Colombia and having an excellent time.
Is there crime in Colombia? Of course! Is there crime anywhere? Of course! The one thing that Colombia has to offer however, that many other places do not, is some of the best Mongering in the world.
Now, I would hate to mislead anyone into becoming overconfident and getting hurt. Colombia does have more than it’s fair share of crime, and you will have to be careful. The one thing that you are not doing however, is walking into a Battle Zone. If you are from the U. S. , the one thing that you will be told over and over by Colombians, is that you may very well be safer than they are. It is said that The Colombian Police don’t want anything to happen to you, in that they don’t want anything to threaten their U. S. Aid. It is also said that The Mafia doesn’t want anything to happen to you, in that their production will slow down if Federal Officials start snooping around. Whether this is true or not, it is talked about by Colombian Residents as though it were an unwritten law.
By any means, if you are worried about danger, I would recommend Medellin. Although I prefer Cali, it is because I personally enjoy action. Medellin seemed to be a lot cleaner and organized. I frequented an area called "La Mayoria" which to the best of my knowledge, was the only place in Medellin where nobody stops at stoplights at night. This is a common practice in just about the entire city of Cali, in that everyone is scared of being car jacked if they are stopped at a light. Although I did not see the entire city of Medellin, the other areas that I had passed did not have this happening. In other words, if you would like safer areas, you will not want to go to La Mayoria.
Medellin also seemed to have lots of Mongering Spots in the more tranquil parts of the Downtown Area, which surprisingly enough were not too expensive, and appeared to be relatively safe and clean.
By any means, this is just my two cents worth. I would advise you to read other articles as well, talk with Forum Members, and also do your own research on Crime and Safety Tactics before making your decision. As I had indicated earlier, I would hate to mislead someone into a un unfitting situation. I would also feel equally bad however, if a fellow Monger were missing out on Colombian Poon![/QUOTE]Good report. If you stick to the right areas and don't act like a tool you will be right. It is dangerous in the wrong parst of town. And you are right about people don't want to bring harm to Americans, locals have told me that aswell. Things have changed a bit since the Medellin cartel announced to the government that for every narco trafficker that gets extradited to the US an american will be killed here.
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Thanks a lot.
[QUOTE=Gary Groundwork]Yeah you are right, girls from quito have more of an Indian look. Both cities have their share of beauties. The thing I like about quito was you can find a happening clubs from Tuesday to Saturday and normal girls in clubs are esaier to pick up! Like the p4p seen better in Medellin. Although I didn't explore itt hat much as I ahd my ahnds full with normal girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot. Tom
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[QUOTE=Skug37]I frequented an area called "La Mayoria" [/QUOTE]It is [b]"La Mayorista."[/b] That word means "wholesaler" and it is a warehouse district and this is why you see all trucks there. "La mayoría" means "the majority," as in >50% of something.
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[QUOTE=Skug37]I frequented an area called "La Mayoria"[/QUOTE]It is [b]"La Mayorista."[/b] That word means "wholesaler" and this is a warehouse district, which is why you see all the trucks. "La mayoría" means "the majority," as in >50% of something: "la mayoría de las manzanas son rojos" = most apples are red.
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Indian?
[QUOTE=Gary Groundwork]Yeah you are right, girls from quito have more of an Indian look.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I guess we don't go to the same clubs.
I've never seen any "indian" girl in a club, not a single one.
Club's girls are white or "mestisas", they may have some indian blood but, once again, I've never seen such a girl in a quito's club.
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First meeting with Lina
lina is a friend of karen who recommended her warmly to me, telling me that i’d like her very much.
how could i resist to any karen’s recommendation?
i had great difficulties to contact with lina because her cell had been robbed. but finally, karen found her home phone and i was able to talk with lina.
we decided to see us in front of the oviedo’s mac donald at 8 pm.
she arrived at 8:15 pm in her taxi. i could observe a charming young cute of 23/24 years old, exactly like i love them; not too tall, very slim, long beautiful black hair, a nice face and 2 lovely black eye.
well, a strong 8/9: a pure felicity.
we decided to walk a little bit in the oviedo mall to check if there was a good chemistry, and we sat down to talk. after a few minutes, we discussed the price and she told me that she wanted 150k for a moment. i told her that i would give her 150k for a tln + 20k for her taxi. she said ok and so this point was close.
we then walk again in the mall and she told me that she would like to have supper in archies (a famous pizza place). we went to the archie’s place and she then asked for someone there, explaining me that she knew a waiter. we were informed that the waiter she knew was now working in the san fernando’s mall. that was exactly where my hotel was so we walk till there hand in hand as it’s only 2/3 blocks away. on our way she explained me that her former novio was an archie’s worker and that explained how she still knew some archie’s employees.
once in the san fernando’s archie, she asked for her friend but he was not working that night. so we just choose a table, sat down and ask for the menu. she ordered bolognaise spaghettis and i asked for a sea food spaghettis. she had some difficulties to eat them with her fork but could finally do it. after her spaghettis, she ordered a margarita.
i then paid for the supper and we went directly to the hotel.
as always, we crossed the lobby without any difficulties, this hotel is just great to not see our girls!
once in the room, we started a picture session and she did it with talent (check the pictures).
after that, we decided to take a shower. there the real show starts for good. we put a lot of soap on our bodies and i penetrated her from behind and then in front. as she is very small she had to climb on the bath to let me screw. we had both a bath and a shower, it was really nice.
after the aquatic activities we decided to go to the bed and i immediately gave her a long daty. she was enjoying it, moving her body all the time and moaning, but, i couldn’t make her come. even though i spent probably more than 30 minutes licking her. well, that’s life. it may go better next time.
after that we made all my favorites positions, and, after a long time, we were totally exhausted and sweating as the night was warm and i hate ac. additionally, the window was very small (as most colombian’s window) and the curtain was in front of it preventing a good air renewal.
after a short break we did it again. lina is not very found of blowing for what i’ve seen as she didn’t blow me much. she does it alright, but not for long.
i almost came 2 or 3 times but i was lucky enough to control myself. believe me it has not been easy but i did it.
lina is really great in the sack, she moves, she moans, i could see that she was having a good time too and this is something i just love.
but once again we were both very tired and we decided to make another brake. she asked me if she could call her home and i gave her my cell to do so.
while she was speaking, i took advantage to do her again. she was calling her sister (at least that’s what she said), and she was telling her sister what i was doing to her!
that was quite exciting!
after her sister, she called a friend and once again she told him what i was doing to her. i really had a great time with that.
then we decided to make some pictures and movies again and, after more than 2 hours of activity, i finally reached climax.
i was really totally destroyed, the heat was too much and i was so tired.
we then went for a shower and i cleaned the mess on the bed as i had thrown my milk everywhere as i always do.
after that, we had a short night sleep. we didn’t slept well as it was really too hot but we recovered some strength.
at 6:30 am i woke up, went for a quick [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and came back to lina in perfect condition.
i woke her up rubbing my best friend to her paradise’s door and we did it again: positions + blowing + daty.
this time i didn’t try to resist long as i had a meeting later on and i came quite good after 45 minutes.
we then showered again, put our clothes on and i gave her the 150k + 20.
she then kissed good bye and left to her home.
i really enjoyed her a lot and will try to repeat her if i can.
any interested person can have her phone by pm (some spanish is mandatory).
i have made 4 movies from my meeting with lina:
1) 2008-04-21_mde-lina-decentstripisg.mp4
size : 12,3mo
length : 1’37”
quality : ok, decent strip (no nudity), but goooood !!!
2) 2008-04-21_mde-lina-bbbjisg.mp4
size : 8,9mo
length : 1’10”
quality : ok, lina sucks very well…
3) 2008-04-21_mde-lina-intercourseisg.mp4
size : 26,3mo
length : 3’26”
quality : average, due to difficult light conditions and difficulties to make the movie while screwing. cow girl, side in & out till completion.
4) 2008-04-21_mde-linastripphotosisg.mp4
size : 6,8mo
length : 0’58”
quality : good. it’s not really a movie, but a succession of pictures made from lina’s strip.
as my steekr account is now full (1go), i had to found another provider.
this one use exactly the same engine and hopefully will work just as well as steekr.
let me know if you have any problem.
[url]http://macle.voila.fr/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=lnk3219484b172092dd1[/url]
cheers
ps : a few tricks.
the voila site is in french…
just click on the folder and it will show you a thumbnail for each movie.
if you click on the thumbnail, you will see the movie directly from the site.
if you click on télécharger, you’ll download the movie on your computer.
have fun.
enjoy.
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First meeting with Lina
Some more pictures from my meeting with Lina.
Have fun.
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Airport Questions
1. Would I still be able to make use of the duty free shop once I arrive in Medellin (11am)? I would like to buy some cologne once I get there.
2. I am staying at a hotel which does not offer taxi service to the airport. They did give me the number for "franja azul" I assume this is a well known taxi service?
If I cannot get in touch with them what would you all suggest I do for a *secure cab into town?
I assume 50/60 k is the normal price?
Thank you. I am due in Medellin next weekend. I just need to finish up a few projects before I go. As always things load up on me just before I travel.
Artisttyp
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Just back from Medellin ...
Well amigos, I'm fresh back from another visit to Medellin and as always, had a spectacular time!!
Seems now that as I make more and more contacts there, the most difficult part of my visits are budgeting my time to fit in all mis amigas and of course to meet new ones, which is always fun.
I stayed at el Castillo, the sister hotel of the now famous, Medellin Mansion.
I love staying there.
It's like showing up and having friends and family waiting for you.
I could easily navigate Medellin on my own and meet chicas on my own but I just like the services offered there and the people that run it and work it.
To each their own but I would think it would be a perfect place to stay, especially for new guys, though they get lots of repeat business.
Funny how some dudes not staying at their hotels will want to or even try to crash their parties and/or everyday get-togethers with the chicas.
After years of visiting Medellin and staying at either the Mansion, el Castillo or even the former Penthouse, I finally made it to one of the Sunday, Mansion BBQ parties.
I always had plans before and have never been to one but I'm glad I finally made it.
I had an absolute blast!!
Meeting and talking with the many hot chicas there and meeting some cool dudes staying at the Mansion.
I ended up with one of the popular Mansion chicas, Alexandra, and she was lots of fun and is really hot, and great en la cama.
I'll post a couple sexy fotos later.
Most of my time in Medellin was spent going out with chicas I had met in the past and meeting new chicas either in the daytime casas or just out and about.
If I bond with a daytime casa chica, I ask her out on a date, as a normal chica, and meet up with her in the evening.
I take her out to dinner and go to a place for music and drinks. I treat her like a princess and the love just comes :)
For me, it's much better than discussing money, being all professional, etc.
Speaking good spanish is just about essential for this.
What a great time though!!
Also spent some time at the Mayorista for late night fun.
Though there are plenty of chicas to avoid there, some real sweethearts can be found for sure.
A couple of chicas we met there, we even took out for dinner the next day and have been invited by one of their mother's to the house for dinner.
That should be interesting and fun when I get back to Medellin in a few weeks.
Most chicas at the Mayorista will be professional and mechanical until you can gain their confidence, which obviously again, will require at least some spanish skills.
After traveling lately through Brazil and Argentina, I have found how much I've missed Colombia.
The carino (affection) these Colombianas can show you just is second to none ... IMHO ... just fits my personality.
I'm pretty sure I'll be eventually be back to living in Colombia, probably Medellin but not decided on that part just yet.
I'm off to Brazil again shortly for business and fun of course, after re-charging my batteries in the US for a few days.
Take care amigos.
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Nah I wasn't refering to the grls in 'clubs' just girls generally in Ecuador.
[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]Hi,
I guess we don't go to the same clubs.
I've never seen any "indian" girl in a club, not a single one.
Club's girls are white or "mestisas", they may have some indian blood but, once again, I've never seen such a girl in a quito's club.[/QUOTE]
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Col Bog is back in action!
Col bog is back! For a minute there, I was beggining to think you had given up sex for good, its been quite a while. Your reports are by far the most informative of them all, and the extra of videos.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]If I cannot get in touch with them what would you all suggest I do for a *secure cab into town?
I assume 50/60 k is the normal price?
Artisttyp[/QUOTE]I arrived Friday, and paid 48K and tipped 2K from MDE to Poblado. I stumbled upstairs looking for an ATM, and found a driver a level above where most hang out.
I spent two nights in a hostal in Poblado (Tiger Paw, private room w private bath for $36), and have since moved to a Centro hotel (cheaper, with more amenities). will post full report later this week.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]1. Would I still be able to make use of the duty free shop once I arrive in Medellin (11am)? I would like to buy some cologne once I get there.
2. I am staying at a hotel which does not offer taxi service to the airport. They did give me the number for "franja azul" I assume this is a well known taxi service?
If I cannot get in touch with them what would you all suggest I do for a *secure cab into town?
I assume 50/60 k is the normal price?
Thank you. I am due in Medellin next weekend. I just need to finish up a few projects before I go. As always things load up on me just before I travel.
Artisttyp[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm stupid, but I thought the point of a duty free store is that you buy something while leaving the country and they let you out with the goods at a discount (no taxes) because it's their last chance to get into your wallet and because you, by traveling, are entering a new market which they do not serve.
So my understanding is that if you want to buy anything tax free to use or leave in Colombia, you need to buy it in the airport before leaving for Colombia.
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Yo malo
[QUOTE=Malodr]Just go to 70th in Laurelas, start at the Metro and you will pass about 12 hotels. I think the first on the left is about $35.[/QUOTE]Safe to take the taxista from the airport, and are these places chica friendly?
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Artis
Artis,
If I remember right, the taxi fare from the airport to Medellin is posted on the glass (winshield) of the taxi. I believe it's 48K for a cab sitting there waiting for customers. But you can call a cab service and they charge less money.
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[QUOTE=George0724]Maybe I'm stupid, but I thought the point of a duty free store is that you buy something while leaving the country and they let you out with the goods at a discount (no taxes) because it's their last chance to get into your wallet and because you, by traveling, are entering a new market which they do not serve.
So my understanding is that if you want to buy anything tax free to use or leave in Colombia, you need to buy it in the airport before leaving for Colombia.[/QUOTE]That might be true but my plane takes off at 7am(non stop) from jfk. I doubt anything will be open.
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[QUOTE=Zig Monger]Safe to take the taxista from the airport, and are these places chica friendly?[/QUOTE]I would not take a taxi from the line at the International airport. I would either call for a taxi or take the minibus for 6K. The minibus does not run after 8:00 pm and terminates near Botero Plaza in Centro. I normally get off the bus at Terminal del Norte and grab a cab there to avoid the traffic in Centro.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]1. Would I still be able to make use of the duty free shop once I arrive in Medellin (11am)? I would like to buy some cologne once I get there.
2. I am staying at a hotel which does not offer taxi service to the airport. They did give me the number for "franja azul" I assume this is a well known taxi service?
If I cannot get in touch with them what would you all suggest I do for a *secure cab into town?
I assume 50/60 k is the normal price?
Thank you. I am due in Medellin next weekend. I just need to finish up a few projects before I go. As always things load up on me just before I travel.
Artisttyp[/QUOTE]Best bet is to visit the Duty Free shops before your flight to Medellin.
Good deals on cologne in the Miami shops.
Use a secure cab from the airport. The ones that are in line after you pass thru Customs / Immigration. They have a guy right there that dispatches the cabs. Cost just under 50,000 pesos.
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[QUOTE=George0724]Maybe I'm stupid, but I thought the point of a duty free store is that you buy something while leaving the country and they let you out with the goods at a discount (no taxes) because it's their last chance to get into your wallet and because you, by traveling, are entering a new market which they do not serve.
So my understanding is that if you want to buy anything tax free to use or leave in Colombia, you need to buy it in the airport before leaving for Colombia.[/QUOTE]FYI In many airports eg Australia.Brazil,Argentina you can buy duty free goods upon arrival.
El Greco
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For Gary
[QUOTE=Gary Groundwork]Nah I wasn't refering to the grls in 'clubs' just girls generally in Ecuador.[/QUOTE]Oh, I see.
Then you're right, 40% of the Ecuadorian's population is native.
Thanks
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Juan Carlos is one of the best independent driver/translator/guides in Medellin and he knows all the casas, many of them off the beaten track and very affordable.
It would be well worth your time to have him give you a tour some afternoon - $10.00 per hour. Be sure to ask him to show the ones he knows about in Centro that are only open in the afternoon for a few hours each day. Also, can set you up with a date at your request.
He is available for airport pickup/drop off. Speaks fluent English. His services have been used by many satisfied customers. A great source of information for newbie travelers who are not staying at gringo-owned hotels in Medellin.
Juan Carlos Martinez, 311-303-8435 or 313-732-6366.
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For Jonath12
[QUOTE=Johnath12]Col bog is back! For a minute there, I was beggining to think you had given up sex for good, its been quite a while. Your reports are by far the most informative of them all, and the extra of videos.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jonath12.
I'm glad you appreciate my reports and videos.
Problem is that it takes me a very long time to protect the girl's face, and that is why I don't post as quickly as before.
Just to give an idea, it takes me 30 minutes to treat 10 seconds of a movie.
I which I could find a premiere's plugin that would help me to do it faster.
I have right now 10 reports to be treated and then posted.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=El Greco]FYI In many airports eg Australia.Brazil,Argentina you can buy duty free goods upon arrival.
El Greco[/QUOTE]Ya know what, I remember now after arriving in Buenos Aires, Argentina, after passing thru immigration, you go right thru Duty Free.
In Medellin that's not the case though.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]That might be true but my plane takes off at 7am(non stop) from jfk. I doubt anything will be open.[/QUOTE]You might be surprised. They want to catch all that they can. I never use them, so I can't tell you when they open, but you could call.
Are you flying JFK direct, or do you stop in Miami?
If so, you are all set. Use the shops in MIA.
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[QUOTE=George0724]You might be surprised. They want to catch all that they can. I never use them, so I can't tell you when they open, but you could call.
Are you flying JFK direct, or do you stop in Miami?
If so, you are all set. Use the shops in MIA.[/QUOTE]Duty free at JFK is open, I think they are open by 5:00am (at least on weekdays).
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[QUOTE=George0724]Maybe I'm stupid, but I thought the point of a duty free store is that you buy something while leaving the country and they let you out with the goods at a discount (no taxes) because it's their last chance to get into your wallet and because you, by traveling, are entering a new market which they do not serve.[/QUOTE]Only if the government owns the duty free concession. If its privately owned then a punter arriving in the country is someone they'd wish to exploit too.
The airlines are helping that argument along by not really wanting to transport heavy airport-purchased glass bottles full of liquid for, they claim fuel costs, though I'm sure there's an element of wanting to sell their own in-flight products instead.
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Arriving July 1st
Hey guys,
I will be arriving July 1st to Medellin and staying at MM. Besides what MM offers, can you give me some advise of the the best casas with the best looking girls? or maybe you have some girls you reccomend. Feel free to pm me.
Regards,
Dennis
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[QUOTE=Mw1030]Hey guys,
I will be arriving July 1st to Medellin and staying at MM. Besides what MM offers, can you give me some advise of the the best casas with the best looking girls? or maybe you have some girls you reccomend. Feel free to pm me.
Regards,
Dennis[/QUOTE]Hook up with Boyd !!! He knows all the good ones!
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[QUOTE=Mw1030]Hey guys,
I will be arriving July 1st to Medellin and staying at MM. Besides what MM offers, can you give me some advise of the the best casas with the best looking girls? or maybe you have some girls you reccomend. Feel free to pm me.
Regards,
Dennis[/QUOTE]Dude ... just go to Medellin, visit a bunch of the casas and pick the chicas YOU like.
Chicas come and go at these places and we all have different tastes.
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Girls
[QUOTE=Mw1030]Hey guys,
I will be arriving July 1st to Medellin and staying at MM. Besides what MM offers, can you give me some advise of the the best casas with the best looking girls? or maybe you have some girls you reccomend. Feel free to pm me.
Regards,
Dennis[/QUOTE]Hi Dennis,
The "best" casas change all the time. I am going to them constantly and know the best ones. I do free tours when you stay at Elcastillo or the MM. Talk to Marcy and tell her when you want to go. I kind of interview the guy before we go so I can take you to the ones you will like. Alot of guys like spinners. Lets go there. Tell me what you like and thier are girls I would reccomed.
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[QUOTE=Ricker]Dude ... just go to Medellin, visit a bunch of the casas and pick the chicas YOU like.
Chicas come and go at these places and we all have different tastes.[/QUOTE]I hit 9 casas in April and saw 100 chicas. I came back again this week, hit all the same casas and saw 90 new chicas. Massive turnover.
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[QUOTE=ElCastillo]Hi Dennis,
The "best" casas change all the time. I am going to them constantly and know the best ones. I do free tours when you stay at Elcastillo or the MM. Talk to Marcy and tell her when you want to go. I kind of interview the guy before we go so I can take you to the ones you will like. Alot of guys like spinners. Lets go there. Tell me what you like and thier are girls I would reccomed.[/QUOTE]Hey just take him to see this beauty!
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Yeah, well, El Castillo offered to take me to some casas. He took me to one way in the fuck, and then said he was going to go shopping for shoes and took off (without selecting a chica). I think he just wanted someone to split the cab to wherever he was buying shoes. That was bullshit, dude. Leave me way the fuck out there where I don't know where I am?
Thanks a lot
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[QUOTE=Dickhead]Yeah, well, El Castillo offered to take me to some casas. He took me to one way in the fuck, and then said he was going to go shopping for shoes and took off (without selecting a chica). I think he just wanted someone to split the cab to wherever he was buying shoes. That was bullshit, dude. Leave me way the fuck out there where I don't know where I am?
Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]Dickhead,
I am assuming you liked the place, picked a girl, got laid and your mad? If it was way out there then in was Channels which the girls are great(in got shut down by the cops). The pic of the girl in the last post is from Channel. Don't worry guys the taxi drivers will get you back to the MM or Elcastillo. I alway ask if you have a card to show the driver. Sometimes i don't know when guys are scared. I got him laid, showed him my secret place and no appreciation. Doesn't matter. Even if you don't like me i will take you on a free tour anytime. Even if your not staying with us. I love living here.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead]Yeah, well, El Castillo offered to take me to some casas. He took me to one way in the fuck, and then said he was going to go shopping for shoes and took off (without selecting a chica). I think he just wanted someone to split the cab to wherever he was buying shoes. That was bullshit, dude. Leave me way the fuck out there where I don't know where I am?
Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]I was walking in Centro last year with my wingman when we bumped into El Castillo and he was with a guest and offered to show us a new casa, so off we went. When we were done the manager came running after us to tell us our other friend was still there. The guy arrived the night before and El Castillo left him there.
I myself would not want to be left in Centro my first day. The upside is El Castillo knows all the cheap places and cheap doesn´t mean bad, it means you can get a chica for a great price. 80% of all my finds come from these casas. I still hit Athena and that was one El Castillo took me to. 4 trips in a row I found gems there.
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Thanks Dubman
[QUOTE=Dubman30]Hey just take him to see this beauty![/QUOTE]She looks amazingly like Ali Landry!
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I wasn't scared.
It was just a lame thing to do.
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[QUOTE=ElCastillo]Dickhead,
I am assuming you liked the place, picked a girl, got laid and your mad? If it was way out there then in was Channels which the girls are great(in got shut down by the cops). The pic of the girl in the last post is from Channel. Don't worry guys the taxi drivers will get you back to the MM or Elcastillo. I alway ask if you have a card to show the driver. Sometimes i don't know when guys are scared. I got him laid, showed him my secret place and no appreciation. Doesn't matter. Even if you don't like me i will take you on a free tour anytime. Even if your not staying with us. I love living here.[/QUOTE]Hey amigo. Senor Castillo. I have to thank you for taking mi hermano around during my absence. The casas, etc.
Always a fun time hanging out with ya!
As you know, I went, after all these years, to a Mansion Sunday pool Party. What a blast! Sorry if all the chicas fell in love with me. Hahahaha
Take care! Saludos a Marcy, Denise y Amada de mi parte. OK, Estela too.
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The girl
[QUOTE=Almotu]She looks amazingly like Ali Landry![/QUOTE]She is a total coke head. Incredible in bed. She looks like Teri Hatcher. She came to the Elcastillo and ask for 200k with no negoiating. At Channel she took half of 75k. What are they thinking. I told her that was too much and said i was calling a taxi. My friend told me she is taking your bottle of rum. I tried to take it from her and it all went bad. She really wanted to punch me. Good thing her friends stepped in. Guys!!!! Becareful of the Colombians. These girls are not shy. I have seen girls break bottles on guys heads at Mayorista. Sorry guys took this ones number out of my phone. 35k for an hour at Channel. Why can't they work for 100k at our house? Don't fight it. Just call a taxi.
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Ok We give up
[QUOTE=Dubman30]Hey just take him to see this beauty![/QUOTE]Where is this hottie located?? Address? Name of Casa.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Malodr]I was walking in Centro last year with my wingman when we bumped into El Castillo and he was with a guest and offered to show us a new casa, so off we went. When we were done the manager came running after us to tell us our other friend was still there. The guy arrived the night before and El Castillo left him there.
I myself would not want to be left in Centro my first day. The upside is El Castillo knows all the cheap places and cheap doesn´t mean bad, it means you can get a chica for a great price. 80% of all my finds come from these casas. I still hit Athena and that was one El Castillo took me to. 4 trips in a row I found gems there.[/QUOTE]I'm sure if a guy asked Castillo to wait for him, he would do just that.
I've been out with el Castillo with other clients. He gives a guy a card with the address / phone nmbr of the Hotel.
El Castillo is showing guys around, not babysitting all day long.
If a guy wanted him to hang out and wait, then we would.
OMG has Medellin turned into a playground for novice travelers?
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[QUOTE=Ricker]I'm sure if a guy asked Castillo to wait for him, he would do just that.
I've been out with el Castillo with other clients. He gives a guy a card with the address / phone nmbr of the Hotel.
El Castillo is showing guys around, not babysitting all day long.
If a guy wanted him to hang out and wait, then we would.
OMG has Medellin turned into a playground for novice travelers?[/QUOTE]What happens is he tells you he has an hour or 2 or 3 and in my experience, you can spend 9 hours hitting casas. Many guys stay there because they really do need their hand held and to be taken around.
He told us that he had 3 hours when he "offered" to show us around and we knew we needed all day so we passed.
You know how long he has for you, so its not a real shock. Grab a taxi, show them the card.
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[QUOTE=ElCastillo]She is a total coke head. Incredible in bed. She looks like Teri Hatcher. She came to the Elcastillo and ask for 200k with no negoiating. At Channel she took half of 75k. What are they thinking. I told her that was too much and said i was calling a taxi. My friend told me she is taking your bottle of rum. I tried to take it from her and it all went bad. She really wanted to punch me. Good thing her friends stepped in. Guys!!!! Becareful of the Colombians. These girls are not shy. I have seen girls break bottles on guys heads at Mayorista. Sorry guys took this ones number out of my phone. 35k for an hour at Channel. Why can't they work for 100k at our house? Don't fight it. Just call a taxi.[/QUOTE]That doesnt suprise me I had Diana from Blue room wanting 5ook yeah right you're nuts! Oh I forgot to say that a couple nights later I saw Teri Hatcher hanging out in Mayorista! Here's a pic of Diana!
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[QUOTE=Kickboxer151]Where is this hottie located?? Address? Name of Casa.
Thanks[/QUOTE]All I can say is that she works Chanel's not sure of address but don't sweat it girls like her are a dime a dozen in Colombia! Hang out at Mayorista she might just pop up!
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[QUOTE=Ricker]I'm sure if a guy asked Castillo to wait for him, he would do just that.
I've been out with el Castillo with other clients. He gives a guy a card with the address / phone nmbr of the Hotel.
El Castillo is showing guys around, not babysitting all day long.
If a guy wanted him to hang out and wait, then we would.
OMG has Medellin turned into a playground for novice travelers?[/QUOTE]Ditto that. El Castillo shares his invaluable knowledge of the city and all the current "hot spots" to any guests of MM or El Castillo but he isn't a baby sitter. I've hung with several times and he was always forthcoming with info, tel #'s, and is a great host to boot. Never had a problem with him.
Schwmm
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Mongers-
I almost hope that sometime in the near future some amateur disneyland-seeking non-spanish speaking Medellin traveler gets kidnapped and decapitated as to discourage other morons from further pissing in this fine, fine mongering pond. People that travel to Medellin or any other city in Colombia need to understand that this is a potentially dangerous third world country that happens to offer unbelievably beautiful women combined with the availability of every imaginable first world convenience money can buy. The people that facilitate gringo travel in Medellin are not your brother, father or cousin, and as such you need to take care of yourself as if you are venturing into the worst areas of (insert name of worst neighborhood of any US city). Colombia is not ready for mainstream tourism, it is not Europe, or Egypt, or Buenos Aires for that matter. I recommend Colombia only for experienced Latin America travelers that speak at least reasonable Spanish who do not have problems with encountering potentially dangerous and or uncomfortable situations. Remember, even in the nicest areas of Medellin (and other Colombian cities) there are police/military on the streets carrying large and powerful automatic weapons (M-16's) and that these security forces will sometimes stop your vehicle and give you and your belongings a full search. These security measures are in place because they need to be.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
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Say at the Odeon and enjoy the views
This really sounds to me like a bunch of mature gentlemen looking for a babysitter. I do not mean babysitter in the fetish way but as in a child who needs to hold you hand as you cross the street.
If you really need this El Castillo to take you around then you should ask him to schedule you in for the day and ...
Maybe it was growing up (and living) NYC per Guilliani or maybe it was just walking the streets with the look (suffering from agida), I do not know but I was not harrassed. I spent 5 weeks at the Odeon and found my own way around. I walk in areas that you complain is dangerous (rightfully so) but I escaped un harmed and unrobbed just a little morally strained from saying no to all those who Pide plata in the streets around.
My only real complaint is the quality of women has dropped over the years (since starting to visit Medellin).
One day I went to four casas before finding a young lady nice enough to warrant the efforts (at Estabul(?)).
I do not know what happened to the workers since my first stay at the Mansion in October 2005 but I am no longer impressed. I guess they got the visas and moved on to Aruba, St. Maartin and then the illegal route to US of DR ... and it is harder to get what you might want. BBBJs have gotten harder (or require a liga) and BBFS is very hard (I had to find a couple a girlfriends for this).
Still Medellin is a good deal (depending on your standards and when (and how much you are willing to bend those standards).
Guys really, if you have the money you can go anywhere or stay close to home where you are comfortable. Let the illegals come to you and have a good safe time. If you require a tour guide set one up. For the cost any lady would take you around and even wait for you while you rocks get off.
Enjoy!
[QUOTE=Malodr]What happens is he tells you he has an hour or 2 or 3 and in my experience, you can spend 9 hours hitting casas. Many guys stay there because they really do need their hand held and to be taken around.
He told us that he had 3 hours when he "offered" to show us around and we knew we needed all day so we passed.
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Friday 13th
I made up an excuse to leave the birthdayparty of my sister in law rather early on friday 13th. Since I knew, that my wife would be there till late, I took a taxi to La Mayorista to have a quick relieve.
I haven't been there for a long time and was curious to see if the quantity of beauties has changed. Walked up and down the street a couple of times and did'nt see any improvement. I even found the quality less than about a year ago. The only familiar face I saw was Daniella's and she would not be my first choice if there's a stunner present. BTW, the big gringo who was cruising there at about 21.00 pm happens to be a fellow ISG member?
As I didn't find a good looking one, I decided to go for Daniella. In my opinion she's not a beauty, but at least she knows what kind of service I want. To make sure she hasn't changed her attitude I asked her if she still provides barebacking and anal. She does, so we went to the hotel around the corner.
Her blowjob was still mediocre, but since I came to enter her backdoor, I didn't mind that much. After the BJ, we WOT and doggied a while. When I saw on my watch that there were 20 minutes left, I got her in the right position for anal. That is, she's on her belly on the bed and not on all fours. To my surprise and delight, it wasn't easy to penetrate her. She was very, very tight down there. It's because I was the last person she did anal with, she told me. Hmmm, all the better I thought. Again it took three attempts to penetrate her. She kept moaning all the time I was moving in her ass and like I reported last year, it only added to my excitement. When she asked me to hurry since it hurt her so much, I just slowed down my movements, because I wanted to wanted to make it last longer. After 10 minutes I decided to come and moved faster. While she moaned louder and louder, my movements went faster until I shot my load in her ass. I pushed my dick as deep as possible in that tight ass and rested on her till she turned her body around to release me. That was a nice fuck and as these coming two months will be full of birthdays, I hope to be able to visit La Mayorista again in the evening.
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My First Impression
I have been in Medellin for almost a week already. I started off in the laurales area on carrera 70 which is an avenue where alot of hotels are located. There are also a few discos in the immediate area but I have yet to see a bustling nightlife. There is a huge supermarket called "Ley" a block away where you can stock your fridge.
On my first day I walked right down to the centro via avenida san juan which took me around 35 minutes. I don't recommend it but I wanted to give an idea of how far you are to the centro. That is where you want to hang out as far as I am concerned. Another option would be to take the bus right down san juan in the direction you would have been walking. It takes just a few minutes and 1, 200 pesos (a few cents). Option two would be taking the metro at the estadio stop then change at san antonio for another train. I personally found the bus easier and a bit quicker but it doesn't drop you off in the dead center. You would need to walk a few blocks.
I stayed at lukas hotel for my first night out of a possible 30 but I left the next day a few doors down to hotel florida. Lukas is a dump but the florida was pretty decent minus the bible thumping assholes who sing "amazing grace" every morning a 9AM. How fkn rude! I will post their email on another post.
Both hotels were in the $65/75 range. The other hotels in the area are just about equal in price. In general I find Medellin to be pricey for lodging unless you stay in a hostel. However during my walks around the centro I found a really good hotel with all the ammenities for 60, 000 pesos ($35) a night. I just moved in here today so before I post any recommendations I will see how it goes. I am on the 10th floor with a great view and thick windows.
* I had the pleasure of meeting malodr and el plomero. I hope to see you guys again. Thank you for your help as well as everyone else.
I was also very lucky to meet up with my buddy tunguhuara whom I met previously in buenos aires. He has been showing me the ropes so alot of my research so far has been with him. I will do my own searching after he leaves for Bogota. I have been very spoiled by him. I consider him a master of the art. He is one of the few people I would trust to hit hardcore barrios with.
Usually I feel safer by myself.
I've had some decent sessions in the centro casas. The girls have been better looking than most casas in similar countries (the faces especially). I immediately noticed a similarity to the chongo set up of quito ecuador and privados of buenos aires. They seem to be numerous and safe to visit. The managers are usually male and are very polite. You walk in and you are presented with the girls for your choosing. Drinks are available. Bring a pen because it is hard to remember names. Most casas are very clean with showers soap and towels. Most of them change the sheets after each session.
I have gotten BBBJ for an extra 10000 pesos which brings the session to around $25 for 30 minutes maybe a little cheaper in some casas. Minus the special service you will be looking at around $17 US. Not everybody does the specials so ask before you go into the room. Spanish is a must in Medellin. There is no way around it minus staying at the mansion or something similar.
The street scenes are a real trip. I've been to the ave. De grieff scene and mayorista. Mayorista seemed ok and my session was decent. Prices are similar to the centro casas. De grieff is like hanging out in a shady area of tijuana mexico. I love a good freak show.
All in all I am satisfied. Food is not cheap and there is bit of anglo snobbery from the white locals. It reminds me a little of Argentina but not as obnoxious. I find darker skinned latin countries to be more friendly but that isn't to say that people are not friendly. They are but there is some anglo culture that we see in the north that I could do without.
"I am loving the centro" is basically the bottom line. I have yet to go elsewhere but I will.
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[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-
I almost hope that sometime in the near future some amateur disneyland-seeking non-spanish speaking Medellin traveler gets kidnapped and decapitated as to discourage other morons from further pissing in this fine, fine mongering pond. People that travel to Medellin or any other city in Colombia need to understand that this is a potentially dangerous third world country that happens to offer unbelievably beautiful women combined with the availability of every imaginable first world convenience money can buy. The people that facilitate gringo travel in Medellin are not your brother, father or cousin, and as such you need to take care of yourself as if you are venturing into the worst areas of (insert name of worst neighborhood of any US city). Colombia is not ready for mainstream tourism, it is not Europe, or Egypt, or Buenos Aires for that matter. I recommend Colombia only for experienced Latin America travelers that speak at least reasonable Spanish who do not have problems with encountering potentially dangerous and or uncomfortable situations. Remember, even in the nicest areas of Medellin (and other Colombian cities) there are police/military on the streets carrying large and powerful automatic weapons (M-16's) and that these security forces will sometimes stop your vehicle and give you and your belongings a full search. These security measures are in place because they need to be.
Suerte,
Rock Harders[/QUOTE]Even though I fully and completely agree, I was greatly surprised that this was not edited or removed and made it past "moderation" for being a "serial antagonist remark in a vain attempt to discourage anybody from visiting Colombia for they feel its their personal playground" and Not actually some possibly good advice or important information. LOL
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Food not cheap?
A restaurant near Odeaon serves Soup and main coarse for 5000 CP take out and a whooping 3500 CP if you sit and eat there.
Food is inexpensive if you keep away from Kokorikos and the likes. Stick to the little local hang outs. The only draw back for me is they cook using a hell of a lot of salt for my tastes.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I have been in Medellin for almost a week already. I started off in the laurales area on carrera 70 which is an avenue where alot of hotels are located. There are also a few discos in the immediate area but I have yet to see a bustling nightlife. There is a huge supermarket called "Ley" a block away where you can stock your fridge.
On my first day I walked right down to the centro via avenida san juan which took me around 35 minutes. I don't recommend it but I wanted to give an idea of how far you are to the centro. That is where you want to hang out as far as I am concerned. Another option would be to take the bus right down san juan in the direction you would have been walking. It takes just a few minutes and 1, 200 pesos (a few cents). Option two would be taking the metro at the estadio stop then change at san antonio for another train. I personally found the bus easier and a bit quicker but it doesn't drop you off in the dead center. You would need to walk a few blocks.
I stayed at lukas hotel for my first night out of a possible 30 but I left the next day a few doors down to hotel florida. Lukas is a dump but the florida was pretty decent minus the bible thumping assholes who sing "amazing grace" every morning a 9AM. How fkn rude! I will post their email on another post.
Both hotels were in the $65/75 range. The other hotels in the area are just about equal in price. In general I find Medellin to be pricey for lodging unless you stay in a hostel. However during my walks around the centro I found a really good hotel with all the ammenities for 60, 000 pesos ($35) a night. I just moved in here today so before I post any recommendations I will see how it goes. I am on the 10th floor with a great view and thick windows.
* I had the pleasure of meeting malodr and el plomero. I hope to see you guys again. Thank you for your help as well as everyone else.
I was also very lucky to meet up with my buddy tunguhuara whom I met previously in buenos aires. He has been showing me the ropes so alot of my research so far has been with him. I will do my own searching after he leaves for Bogota. I have been very spoiled by him. I consider him a master of the art. He is one of the few people I would trust to hit hardcore barrios with.
Usually I feel safer by myself.
I've had some decent sessions in the centro casas. The girls have been better looking than most casas in similar countries (the faces especially). I immediately noticed a similarity to the chongo set up of quito ecuador and privados of buenos aires. They seem to be numerous and safe to visit. The managers are usually male and are very polite. You walk in and you are presented with the girls for your choosing. Drinks are available. Bring a pen because it is hard to remember names. Most casas are very clean with showers soap and towels. Most of them change the sheets after each session.
I have gotten BBBJ for an extra 10000 pesos which brings the session to around $25 for 30 minutes maybe a little cheaper in some casas. Minus the special service you will be looking at around $17 US. Not everybody does the specials so ask before you go into the room. Spanish is a must in Medellin. There is no way around it minus staying at the mansion or something similar.
The street scenes are a real trip. I've been to the ave. De grieff scene and mayorista. Mayorista seemed ok and my session was decent. Prices are similar to the centro casas. De grieff is like hanging out in a shady area of tijuana mexico. I love a good freak show.
All in all I am satisfied. Food is not cheap and there is bit of anglo snobbery from the white locals. It reminds me a little of Argentina but not as obnoxious. I find darker skinned latin countries to be more friendly but that isn't to say that people are not friendly. They are but there is some anglo culture that we see in the north that I could do without.
"I am loving the centro" is basically the bottom line. I have yet to go elsewhere but I will.
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Are you volunteering?
Are you volunteering? I know a guy in Niquia who would do it for 1.000.000 CP. He has been to jail for it in the past…
[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-
I almost hope that sometime in the near future some amateur disneyland-seeking non-spanish speaking Medellin traveler gets kidnapped and decapitated as to discourage other morons from further pissing in this fine, fine mongering pond. People that travel to Medellin or any other city in Colombia need to understand that this is a potentially dangerous third world country that happens to offer unbelievably beautiful women combined with the availability of every imaginable first world convenience money can buy. The people that facilitate gringo travel in Medellin are not your brother, father or cousin, and as such you need to take care of yourself as if you are venturing into the worst areas of (insert name of worst neighborhood of any US city). Colombia is not ready for mainstream tourism, it is not Europe, or Egypt, or Buenos Aires for that matter. I recommend Colombia only for experienced Latin America travelers that speak at least reasonable Spanish who do not have problems with encountering potentially dangerous and or uncomfortable situations. Remember, even in the nicest areas of Medellin (and other Colombian cities) there are police/military on the streets carrying large and powerful automatic weapons (M-16's) and that these security forces will sometimes stop your vehicle and give you and your belongings a full search. These security measures are in place because they need to be.
Suerte,
Rock Harders[/QUOTE]
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Weather/pricing/shopping
I forgot to mention that the weather is pretty damn hot in the day and cools down just a little at night. Maybe between 4 and 5am it is a little cool. It hasn´t been all that comfortable to walk around looking for casas. Especially when your pants are sticking to your legs. You wind up getting really grungy by the time the day is over.
Trying to judge what to bring via the weather channel.com was difficult. I could have sworn I would have needed a jacket but so far I have´t really needed anything except a long sleeve shirt over a t shirt. Buy an umbrella for sure.
This is a mid range city as far as prices go. I have been paying an average of $12/13 for a decent luch and dinner. Even in the food courts at shopping malls you won´t find it for much less unless you are just snacking. That goes with everything else you will be doing. Beers and girls being the exception unless you dont give a crap and eat anything.
Shopping is not too exciting here. I am a big shopper and from what I´ve seen I could do alot better in america or new york city for that matter. The streets are filled with loads and loads of cheap(ugly) clothing at rather high prices. I don´t know who buys this crap. The thing that has caught my attention are the numerous stands and shops that sell leather wallets and credit card holders for roughly $12 a piece. I will buy my x mas gifts here so I dont need to stress out next year.
I have an invitation to wife up with a casa girl so I will take her out on a date next week. She wants to show me her barrio which could be intresting. I had a second session with her but it wasn´t like the first so I dont know if I can perform for her. At least I will get to see some interesting areas of town.
I am in a really tough spot with sex. I cant get off with the same person more than once. How can I ever expect to have a realationship? What to do with my life?
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Wingman needed in Pereira
I am in Pereira now for the next 2 weeks. I am looking for a wingman to hang out with, not interested in paying a taxi guy- I am fluent and can get around.
I just don´t like going out solo, not a smart idea, much less likely to have problems when you go out with a friend.
Please PM me if interested.
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For me Colombia looks about 100 times less dangerous than Russia:)
But I know Russia much better, I lived there for 20 years. and Russia still great, and at the same time nothing can be worse;)
[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-
I almost hope that sometime in the near future some amateur disneyland-seeking non-spanish speaking Medellin traveler gets kidnapped and decapitated as to discourage other morons from further pissing in this fine, fine mongering pond. People that travel to Medellin or any other city in Colombia need to understand that this is a potentially dangerous third world country that happens to offer unbelievably beautiful women combined with the availability of every imaginable first world convenience money can buy. The people that facilitate gringo travel in Medellin are not your brother, father or cousin, and as such you need to take care of yourself as if you are venturing into the worst areas of (insert name of worst neighborhood of any US city). Colombia is not ready for mainstream tourism, it is not Europe, or Egypt, or Buenos Aires for that matter. I recommend Colombia only for experienced Latin America travelers that speak at least reasonable Spanish who do not have problems with encountering potentially dangerous and or uncomfortable situations. Remember, even in the nicest areas of Medellin (and other Colombian cities) there are police/military on the streets carrying large and powerful automatic weapons (M-16's) and that these security forces will sometimes stop your vehicle and give you and your belongings a full search. These security measures are in place because they need to be.
Suerte,
Rock Harders[/QUOTE]
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Chanel's is CLOSED!
[QUOTE=Dubman30]All I can say is that she works Chanel's not sure of address but don't sweat it girls like her are a dime a dozen in Colombia! Hang out at Mayorista she might just pop up![/QUOTE]This casa was located around el estadio but it got shut down by the Policia according to El Castillo just days after we paid them a visit. They had a few beauties working there too. What a shame! I am sure the girls found new places to work but who went to where, I don't know.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]
I am in a really tough spot with sex. I cant get off with the same person more than once. How can I ever expect to have a realationship? What to do with my life?[/QUOTE]Hhahah. Omg me too. Fuckk! Unless were really cool with each other.
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Okay who till have a credit at Mansion and am not getting there any time soon... Australia and Europe this summer.. Kids are old enough now to want to travel too and have a few years before I bring my son to Colombia.
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Timing is everything
Your PM is not excepting.
I am sorry you were not two weeks earlier in this offer I would have been very interested.
I just got back yesterday from MDE.
What do you plan for Pereira? Might be able to check got you...
[QUOTE=envelope]I am in Pereira now for the next 2 weeks. I am looking for a wingman to hang out with, not interested in paying a taxi guy- I am fluent and can get around.
I just don´t like going out solo, not a smart idea, much less likely to have problems when you go out with a friend.
Please PM me if interested.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I have been paying an average of $12/13 for a decent luch and dinner. Even in the food courts at shopping malls you won´t find it for much less unless you are just snacking.[/QUOTE]So you are paying 20K or more for a meal. Try looking for the menu or plato del dia. At La Mesa de Abuela at Unicentro Mall they generally have a lunch special including drink for around 8 to 9K. There are many smaller restaurants that have menus ranging from 5 to 7K. Menus generally include soup, chicken or red meat, rice, salad and a drink. Pizza World in many malls and Home Centers has a great pasta/salad bar deal for less than 10K.
There are many places that you can pay over 20K. But you certainly do not have to do so.
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[QUOTE=Tom 33]So you are paying 20K or more for a meal. Try looking for the menu or plato del dia. At La Mesa de Abuela at Unicentro Mall they generally have a lunch special including drink for around 8 to 9K. There are many smaller restaurants that have menus ranging from 5 to 7K. Menus generally include soup, chicken or red meat, rice, salad and a drink. Pizza World in many malls and Home Centers has a great pasta/salad bar deal for less than 10K.
There are many places that you can pay over 20K. But you certainly do not have to do so.[/QUOTE]$10 for a sit down lunch is not that expensive.
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[QUOTE=Tom 33]So you are paying 20K or more for a meal. Try looking for the menu or plato del dia. At La Mesa de Abuela at Unicentro Mall they generally have a lunch special including drink for around 8 to 9K. There are many smaller restaurants that have menus ranging from 5 to 7K. Menus generally include soup, chicken or red meat, rice, salad and a drink. Pizza World in many malls and Home Centers has a great pasta/salad bar deal for less than 10K.
There are many places that you can pay over 20K. But you certainly do not have to do so.[/QUOTE]My lunches run 5,000 to 10,000 pesos all over the city. Need to stay out of malls.
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Speaking in Tungs II: Medellin Minutes
[b]tuesday, may 20.[/b] jumped on a bus for cartagena, using company rapido ochoa for 70k ($40). left 7:30am, arrived in cartagena at 10pm, 14.5 hours. the trip was longer than quoted due to heavy rain which slowed travel. from medellin the first five hours were mountain scenic then the landscape flattened. no crime-troubles during the drive. no police stops or inspections. lots of small landslides being cleared.
instead of trying to navigate a new city at night i checked into the bus station hotel for 25k, a basic room. the next morning bussed to the historical sector, checked into hotel villa colonial for 28k-night in the ghetto of getsemani.
for two days i walked the outer city walls, city streets, popped into the gold museum to read about the zenu indians and their brilliant canal system. castillo san felipe was a treat; i spent some three hours running up, down and around this giant fortress. no mongering in cartagena because i wanted a break.
[b]friday, may 23.[/b] bus berlinas took me to santa marta via baranquilla. about 4.5 hours for 20k ($11). efficient and painless. in santa marta i jumped a local minibus to taganga, about five kilometers north. a small horseshoe bay populated by backpackers and punks. set up shop for fourteen days, simply to tan, read a book, eat steaks, drink mora juice, and watch sunsets. the ciudad perdida ("lost city") didn't interest me priced at $460us for 5 days, 6 nights, minimum five persons.
[b]friday, june 6.[/b] company brasilia, ticket from santa marta to medellin, 60k ($34). the ride took 17 hours (8am-1am). i swear colombia rivals laos for most people who woof their cookies during bus travel. again no crime troubles or police stops-inspections. to make sure my luggage doesn't walk (get stolen) i usually like to put my bag under my seat, but brasilia hands out tickets for each bag so i let them put it in the baggage compartment. this is the best bus company i have travelled with to date. from the north bus terminal in medellin caught a taxi to centro and checked into a hotel.
[b]saturday, june 7.[/b] i carnally meddled with milena, 22 yrs of bell suite, 30k-30mins. big boobies are her main sell. i dined at the y. it took her a half hour of using me as a scrub-board but she finally came. "wow," said she damp of sweat.
in the afternoon i met isger almotu and we took in the de greiff scene along carreras 52-53-54. in stripclub bar hilton i fiddled with the wares of diana, 18 years, 30k-30mins. she looked great, danced great, but this "princess" didn't measure up in the sack. two thumbs down. the room made quito's fuckrooms look classy. what a dungeon.
[b]sunday, june 8.[/b] met isgers macmasher and almotu for a stripclub tour.
[b]monday, june 9.[/b] a second round with milena, 22 yrs of bell suite, 30k-30mins.
[b]friday, june 13.[/b] lady, 19 years of barcelona, a slender mulatta, caught my eye. i sampled her services for 30k-30mins. an excellent session to mutual orgasm. another chica to pin me down, her hands to my chest, using me as a scrub board. hmmm, it seems more girls in colombia have orgasms during sessions than all other countries in south america put together.
by 9:30pm i was in mayorista. stunning negrita veronica, 18 years, was first up, 25k-30mins, hotel 10k. long hair, incredible ass. just gorgeous. a bit of an actress in bed, but she did it well. two thumbs up.
third session of the day was with zoraida, 25 years, 25k-30mins, hotel 10k. as i didn't cum with zoraida upon exit i immediately grabbed christine, 18 years, 20k-30mins, hotel 10k, for a fourth and final session. to my amusement, knowing i had been tapping other girls christine sweetly says at session end "oh, poco leche por mi!"
[b]saturday, june 14.[/b] yadith, 19 years of de greiff, 25k-30mins, 10k hotel. pretty little hardbody but she grumbled due to discomfort in a couple positions. at night in mayorista i came across super-hot spinner tatianna, 19 years, 25k-30mins, hotel 12k. what a babe! bareback bj, pure white skin, unblemished, cute, friendly. a fantastic session.
[b]tuesday, june 17.[/b] welcome to colombia artisttyp! i had the honor to play casa guide for his initial steps in medellin. during the course of the afternoon i squirted milena-22 of bell suite, 30k-30mins, then natasha-20 of masajes 55-35, 25k-30mins. big boobied milena continues to deliver, itty-bitty-titty newbie natasha was tame.
at night i set up camp in de greiff, closing down the bars, about 2am sexing hottie andrea, 19 years, 25k-30mins, 10k hotel. another babe. after the session i discovered the tavernas along carrera 53 are open to 3 or 3:30am, had more beers. in a drunken haze, characters everywhere, these streets are so surreal.
[b]wednesday, june 18.[/b] met artisttyp for lunch. for those of you who are not familiar with artisttyp's style of mongering be prepared for some off-the-wall mental images polluting your brain. today i am politely eating lunch while he is passionately speaking about simultaneously eating asshole, pussy and smelling feet. i quipped "this is unique dinner conversation" -- and we had a good laugh.
hiked up to casa aiffe whereby i rented tall slender mulatta camilla, 20 years, 30k-30mins. hit conejitas to watch some "chica-botero" (fatty) stripteases, then de greiff to close the eve, more character watching.
[b]thursday, june 19.[/b] a second session with lady-19 of barcelona, 30k-30mins. two orgasms for her, one for me. i love lying on my back, letting her go at it, watching her face. she's a pretty sight in 'heat.'
at night artisttyp and i toured mayorista. he sessioned then left. i taxied to de greiff later on. about 3am i bumped into a crowd of people. a car is pulled to the curb, driver's door open. a man holds a black kid, the latter cut and bleeding. a white punk not being held (at first) is present, presumably a friend of the black kid. after ten minutes four police officers on motorcycles show up. talking proceeds.
after five minutes of this, one officer now holding the black kid, another cop takes three large strides forward and -- with helmet on -- headbunts the black kid. i'm thinking wtf?! the kid's knees buckled but with help was kept up. after a couple minutes this cop does the same to the white punk, bam! -- headbunts him too. upon sight of the first headbunt i took a few steps back. upon the second one i took a dozen more steps back. more people are crowding in. as this seemed to be escalating instead of being resolved i said it is best to divorce myself from this scene. crossed the street and walked the five blocks to my hotel for sleep.
[b]friday, june 20.[/b] third session with lady-19 of barcelona, 30k-30mins. then camilla-21 of abedos, 30k-30mins. flexible but tame.
while shopping artisttyp and i stumbled onto a section of the de greiff scene i was not aware of. up till now i've only known the tavernas and stripclubs of carrera 52-53, plus the hotel streetgirls of carrera 54, all north of av de greiff. but there are a lot of chicas standing outside hotel doors / halls south of av de greiff along carrera 53 too.
at night cutie milena-25 of de greiff introduced herself. she seemed to dig me so i put up the venture capital for a session 25k, hotel 10k. initially it was for 30mins but the session was over 60mins long. she makes this adorable high-pitched noise, like a squeal, with each drill of the cock. by session end she had a big smile on her face, enthusiastically jumping around the room, dancing to the music, naked. two thumbs up!
[b]saturday, june 21.[/b] while browsing the casas i took artisttyp to see new life. i let him ring the buzzer. once inside the guy would not show us the girls unless we promised to buy a session. huh?! apparently from my two previous visits, after buying a beer both times, i declined to session (f-uglies), left -- and this peeved the guy to the point that i can no longer browse new life's selection unless i pre-commit to buying. this, to me, is pretty fucking stupid. it's the only casa in medellin to do so. i guess i am going to have to step up my buying to four or five sessions daily to clear my good name.
later i sessioned with marcela-19 of de greiff, 15k-30mins, 10k hotel. pretty but tame. then marta-21 of de greiff, 20k-30mins, 10k hotel. she snorts coke like i breathe air.
it's so odd these days. i can still remember the first 150 chicas of my south american travels, but today i can barely remember a girl's face from last night (chica numbers 222 & 223).
[b] sunday, june 22.[/b] round two with cutie milena-25 of de greiff, 25k-60mins, 10k hotel. even better than round one. can't help but feel appreciated when you pay for 30mins and get 60mins.
adding up chica and session totals it was on june 19 that medellin surpassed rio de janeiro & belo horizonte to gain second place in south america (after quito). brazil: 17 girls, 30 sessions in thirteen weeks. colombia is presently at 28 chicas, 37 sessions in seven weeks. as price is the primary determiner of my buying habits medellin has some damn fine quality chicas at bargain pricing (sub $20).
the numbers speak for themselves: i'm a medellin man.
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[QUOTE=Tom 33]So you are paying 20K or more for a meal. Try looking for the menu or plato del dia. At La Mesa de Abuela at Unicentro Mall they generally have a lunch special including drink for around 8 to 9K. There are many smaller restaurants that have menus ranging from 5 to 7K. Menus generally include soup, chicken or red meat, rice, salad and a drink. Pizza World in many malls and Home Centers has a great pasta/salad bar deal for less than 10K.
There are many places that you can pay over 20K. But you certainly do not have to do so.[/QUOTE]Thanks I understand that. I have been doing so much traveling in south america that I am chickened/riced out. Sometimes I substitute my meals with cheapos but dining is one of my pleasures while traveling. I cook for myself at home.
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Driver
I am curious to know how much it would cost to rent a driver for the day to take pictures? I know there was a few mentioned before but I cannot find the post. If someone would be able to contact me via pm with an estimate that would be great.
I have a good camara and I like to take photos of interesting subject matter like the barrios people etc. I can do it from a car if need be.
I am kind of running out of things to do in between sessions. I would like to stay here but I need to get something else going besides mongering. Also I do not want to move around with luggage. However I would consider doing overnight trips from a bus terminal. Would sante fe be a good overnight trip or guatape? Also what are the hotel situations in those places and can I walk around versus drive?
What I like about Medellin is if you stay in the centro its all walking. Everything is close and it makes getting from place to place more enjoyable.
Any ideas? Many thanks.
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[QUOTE=Tungurahua] ...
[b]Friday, June 13.[/b] Lady, 19 years of Barcelona, a slender mulatta, caught my eye. I sampled her services for 30K-30mins. An excellent session to mutual orgasm. Another chica to pin me down, her hands to my chest, using me as a scrub board. Hmmm, it seems more girls in Colombia have orgasms during sessions than all other countries in South America put together.
By 9:30pm I was in Mayorista. Stunning negrita Veronica, 18 years, was first up, 25K-30mins, hotel 10K. Long hair, incredible ass. Just gorgeous. A bit of an actress in bed, but she did it well. Two thumbs up.
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[b]Saturday, June 14.[/b] Yadith, 19 years of De Greiff, 25K-30mins, 10K hotel. Pretty little hardbody but she grumbled due to discomfort in a couple positions. At night in Mayorista I came across super-hot spinner Tatianna, 19 years, 25K-30mins, hotel 12K. What a babe! Bareback bj, pure white skin, unblemished, cute, friendly. A fantastic session.
[b]Tuesday, June 17.[/b] Welcome to Colombia Artisttyp! I had the honor to play casa guide for his initial steps in Medellin. During the course of the afternoon I squirted Milena-22 of Bell Suite, 30K-30mins, then Natasha-20 of Masajes 55-35, 25K-30mins. Big boobied Milena continues to deliver, itty-bitty-titty newbie Natasha was tame.
>>> The numbers speak for themselves: I'm a Medellin Man.[/QUOTE]It was my pleasure meeting up and hanging out with you. You are the statician of South American Mongering! I am writing down the favorable names in this post and hopefully can put them to good use [b]SOON! LOL![/b] Personally I had a very nice HOT session with Yadith . . . what a rack on her and lactating too. WOW, Medellin just keeps on getting better.
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I disagree. It is definately not a third world country. Just stay out of the bad neighborhoods and do research like any smart traveler. If you visit Chicago, New York, LA, or Miami you would not hang out in the ghettos. Its the same for Colombia. Stay out of the really bad areas and jungles and you will be fine.
[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-
People that travel to Medellin or any other city in Colombia need to understand that this is a potentially dangerous third world country [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I am curious to know how much it would cost to rent a driver for the day to take pictures? I know there was a few mentioned before but I cannot find the post. If someone would be able to contact me via pm with an estimate that would be great.
I have a good camara and I like to take photos of interesting subject matter like the barrios people etc. I can do it from a car if need be.
I am kind of running out of things to do in between sessions. I would like to stay here but I need to get something else going besides mongering. Also I do not want to move around with luggage. However I would consider doing overnight trips from a bus terminal. Would sante fe be a good overnight trip or guatape? Also what are the hotel situations in those places and can I walk around versus drive?
What I like about Medellin is if you stay in the centro its all walking. Everything is close and it makes getting from place to place more enjoyable.
Any ideas? Many thanks.[/QUOTE]$10 an hour US gets you one.
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[QUOTE=Escort King]$10 an hour US gets you one.[/QUOTE]Any taxi will take you for 20,000 an hour.
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[QUOTE=GringoLoco2]I disagree. It is definately not a third world country. Just stay out of the bad neighborhoods and do research like any smart traveler. If you visit Chicago, New York, LA, or Miami you would not hang out in the ghettos. Its the same for Colombia. Stay out of the really bad areas and jungles and you will be fine.[/QUOTE]Not a third world country? Not sure what your standard is but it sure isn't the same as most people's.
Have you ever seen the stat for per capita GDP?
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[QUOTE=Malodr]My lunches run 5,000 to 10,000 pesos all over the city. Need to stay out of malls.[/QUOTE]There are so many options in Mde. for 10,000 peso for a decent lunch.You just have to get out and explore the options. I can't wait to get back in a couple months!
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Almotu / Food
[b]Almotu:[/b] After exchanging messages in various countries it was cool to finally meet you too. Of the girls highlighted Lady-19 of Barcelona has recently taken the lead with a fab fourth session. A memorable moment while drilling down into her precious pink was when the song "Don't Stop The Music" by Rihanna came on the room speakers. As Lady is probably the closest mulatta I will get to Rihanna (a fantasy of mine), the experience of sexing a hot mulatta who is hot for me to a hot mulatta singing was pure sensual bliss.
Yesterday I had yet another casa girl, Sophia-26 of Masajes 55-35, ride me to her orgasmic pleasure. Colombians are unreal.
If I had to summarize South America to date I say: Quito for the ridiculous pricing, Rio for the stunning negritas, and Colombia for the wet pussies.
[b]Food:[/b] If I see another grain of rice, a solitaire bean, or a piece of platano / yuka on my plate I will violently wretch. I gladly pay triple for "decent food" (a steak is nice). The fresh juice stands are a beauty of a treat though. Mora with milk is dee-licious. I hope in the future Japanese sex-robots can incorporate mora-milk in the tetas of their Colombian line.
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Tall, lean and blond.
It's vacation time! The kids have to be entertained and my missus and her sisters decided to rent a finca outside Medellin. Women and kids left wednesday afternoon and the hubbies, due to their work, will follow friday afternoon. I don't have a job, but since I recognized a great opportunity to spend some nights alone in MDE, I arranged to leave with the other marido's.
Wednesday evening about 21.00 pm I left for La Mayorista to look for Sophia, a girl I met last year and who doesn't mind my preferences.
It was still rather quiet when I arrived. I took a stroll to the end of the block and saw Danielle on her usual spot. On the corner of the block, in front of the slotmachines joint were two chicks talking to each other. A short, rather chubbie one and a tall, lean and blond one. The blond one stood with her back in my direction so I couldn't see her face directly. When the short one signaled me, the tall one turned around and she proofed to have a pretty face (my standards, guy's). Since my main purpose was to find Sophia, I just said hello and returned to the beginning of the block and ordered a beer in one of the bars there.
After I finished my beer, I headed towards the end of the block again, hoping to find Sophia. I didn't see her, so I continued to the corner to look for the tall, lean and blond one. She wasn't there anymore. As it was beginning to rain, I decided to fuck the first one who allows barebacking. The first two turned me down but then I saw this girl, who I had last year as well. I approached her and started to talk to her. She didn't remember me, so I reminded her about the barebacking, before booking her. She denied that she has ever done barebacking and she will never do that! So I told her, that I have photo's to proof it. But she still denied it. (See posting #1706 in the photogallery). I didn't insist and left, in search of a willing one. I ended up at the bar near the beginning of the block again and sat down. Suddenly, out of the blue, appeared three girls. Two of them I would rate an 8 and the third one, OMG, the most beautiful girl I've ever seen in Colombia. A 100% stunner, and with that body, she could have been a model for haute couture! We said hello to each other and rather confused I asked her, forgetting all about barebacking. I must take photo's of this beauty, with or without a condom around my dick, I said to myself. But, alas, she wasn't interested. While she left, a guy, who was watching the scene came to me and introduced himself. He told me he could take care of everything. Girls, powder, anything. So I said to him, make me happy and get that girl for me. He didn't even look in her direction and said, bluntly, no. Nice start, dude!
I decided to move to plan B. So I walked into the direction of the hotel where Daniella was. To my surprise, the tall, lean and blond woman was standing directly next to her. She greeted me, saying: there you are again, why don't you come with me. I said that it is not likely, that she will go to a room with me. Why?, she asked. I told her about the barebacking and she said, you're right. But before I could say a word to Daniella, who was 50 cm from where she stood, she asked: how much is it worth to you? I told her how much and she said OK.
While the hotelclerk was writing a receipt for the room, the woman started to kiss me in the lobby. That was a tremendous start, because kissing makes me very excited. We were hardly in the room and there she goes again: kissing me. I took of my shirt and she started kissing my breast, while she took off her clothes. Soon we were standing in our underwear and kissing each other like real lovers. After a couple of minutes, we took turns to clean ourselves, and as if we agreed, we had our underwear on again, when we left the bathroom. We laid down on the bed and continued our kissing and fondling. She took my hands and placed them, where she wanted them to squeeze her. On her breast, on her buttocks and on her pussy. Then she took my head and moved it to the spots that excited her most. Well, anything to please a woman, isn't it. When I was licking her pussy, she asked me to move a finger into her ass. Of course I obeyed! Another nice surprise I thought, she apparently is into backdoor activities as well. At a point, I would say, she came and laid there gasping. When she recovered, we changed positions and she started the BJ. She was good at it and apparently my fingers got her excited again. She positioned me between her thighs and pulled my buttocks to enter her. Mind you, we still had our underwear on. Looked as if she liked it that way. We did various positions and suddenly she pulled her panties of and wanted me to fuck her hard. While pumping her I penetrated her ass again with my finger. How she loved that! Maybe she came again, because she changed her position after a short gasping pause and went on her belly. I took it as an ivitation to fuck her ass, but she rejected. No problem, she was in my favourite position, so I started to fuck her that way. She must have noticed that I was going to come soon and she wanted me on top of her again. I moved faster and faster and while we made noises that were smothered by our french kissing, I exploded inside her, and how! It kept me moving between her thighs, as if the itch at the top of my dick wouldn't leave. After that we cuddled a while before taking a shower together: another thing I like very much.
I invited her for a drink and she accepted. We went to the bar and there was some romantic music playing to which we danced like lovers. When we sat down I asked her about taking photographs the next time we meet, because this time I was very excited having such a rare GFE experience. She agreed and when I mentioned the backdoor activity, she said she likes that too. Pity, I didn't have lube, she said, because she wanted it during our session. Isn't she great? Very, very GFE, good BJ, directing you how to make her come (it wasn't my merit if she came that evening) and into backdoor activity.
For the time being I will not share her name or phonenumber if I don't know you personally. So don't bother asking. What I intend to share in this forum, is the photo's I will take when I meet her again next week.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp] ... It's a shame that americans continue to be americans even while living in a foreign country ... [/QUOTE]I agree with you amigo that one shouldn't judge others based on looks alone, but please don't group all americans together as you did in your post.
It's a shame that you seem to also be judgemental.
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[QUOTE=Ricker]I agree with you amigo that one shouldn't judge others based on looks alone, but please don't group all americans together as you did in your post.
It's a shame that you seem to also be judgemental.[/QUOTE]Just so you know I am an American.
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Save tons $ for NTL by staying at "My Place"
Hi guys,
Save tons of $ for your Night Life and other Entertainment Needs by staying at "My Place" on "La Mayorista" Strip ! You can go to the Merdellin Apartments Thread or read all of my posts for more info. If you want pics. of some of "La Mayorista" girls partying at "My Place" for 25k e-mail me or PM directly ! And can somebody explain to me the difference between The Medellin List Thread and The Medellin Report Thread !
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The List Thread
I started the List Thread for shortcuts to places and chicas, but some use it for Chit Chat. It is supposed to used to add or correct the Lists ONLY.
Same as the other Lists I have made for this country and other countries.
It looks like I will have Start all over again. Adding what additions others have posted.
And try to make it look like this.
[url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showpost.php?p=383825&postcount=18[/url]
[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi guys,
Save tons of $ for your Night Life and other Entertainment Needs by staying at "My Place" on "La Mayorista" Strip ! You can go to the Merdellin Apartments Thread or read all of my posts for more info. If you want pics. of some of "La Mayorista" girls partying at "My Place" for 25k e-mail me or PM directly ! And can somebody explain to me the difference between The Medellin List Thread and The Medellin Report Thread ![/QUOTE]
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Capital Investment Report: Medellin
In keeping with South American tradition here is the tally and statistical analysis of a Medellin Capital Investment Report. The total comes in at 31 chicas for 46 sessions over 24 days.
The following details include: date sexed, chica's name, age, establishment or street-scene, price in pesos for time rented:
June 29 Milena-22 of Bell Suite (30K-30mins)
June 28 Lady-19 of Barcelona (30K-30mins)
June 27 Lady-19 of Barcelona (30K-30mins), Milena-18 of Mayorista (25K-30mins)
June 26 Veronica-18 of Mayorista (25K-30mins)
June 25 Sophia-26 of Masajes 55-35 (25K-45mins)
June 24 Lady-19 of Barcelona (30K-30mins), Milena-25 of De Greiff (25K-30mins), Lilliana-24 of De Greiff (12K-30mins)
June 22 Milena-25 of De Greiff (25K-60mins)
June 21 Marcela-19 of De Greiff (15K-30mins), Marta-21 of De Greiff (20K-30mins)
June 20 Lady-19 of Barcelona (30K-30mins), Camilla-21 of Abedos (30K-30mins), Milena-25 of De Greiff (25K-60mins)
June 19 Lady-19 of Barcelona (30K-30mins)
June 18 Camilla-21 of Aiffe (30K-30mins)
June 17 Milena-22 of Bell Suite (30K-30mins), Natasha-20 of Masajes 55-35 (25K-30mins), Andrea-19 of De Greiff (20K-30mins)
June 14 Yadith-19 of De Greiff (25K-30mins), Tatiana-19 of Mayorista (25K-30mins)
June 13 Lady-19 of Barcelona (30K-30mins), Veronica-18 of Mayorista (25K-30mins), Zoraida-25 of Mayorista (25K-30mins), Christine-18 of Mayorista (20K-30mins)
June 9 Milena-22 of Bell Suite (30K-30mins)
June 7 Milena-22 of Bell Suite (30K-30mins), Diana-18 of Bar Hilton (30K-30mins)
May 17 Jenny-18 of Mayorista (25K-30mins), Zoraida-25 of Mayorista (30K-60mins)
May 16 Camilla-22 of Bell Suite (30K-30mins), Mileidy-19 of De Greiff (25K-30mins)
May 15 Camilla-19 of Venus (30K-30mins), Mileidy-19 of De Greiff (25K-30mins)
May 14 Camilla-22 of Bell Suite (30K-30mins), Jennifer-18 of De Greiff (25K-30mins)
May 10 Fernanda-20 of Aiffe (30K-30mins), Samantha-19 of Mayorista (30K-30mins)
May 9 Michelle-23 of Masajes 55-35 (25K-30mins), Christine-18 of Mayorista (25K-40mins)
May 8 Tatiana-20 of M.Piases (35K-30mins), Juliet-19 of Aiffe (30K-30mins)
May 7 Daniela-21 of Venus (35K-45mins), Sonia-21 of Geishas2 (30K-30mins), Laura-20 of Afrodite (25K-30mins)
Total: 31 chicas for 46 sessions on 24 days, an average of 1.92 sessions per day.
[b]Top Three Chicas by Sessions: [/b]
1. Lady, age 19, of Barcelona: 6 sessions
2. Milena, age 22, of Bell Suite: 4 sessions
3. Milena, age 25, of De Greiff: 3 sessions
[b]Preference of Chica By Age:[/b]
18 years: 6
19 years: 9
20 years: 4
21 years: 5
22 years: 2
23 years: 1
24 years: 1
25 years: 2
26 years: 1
Total: 31 chicas
[b]Favorite Casas / Scenes[/b]
Comparing centro's casas to the two main street scenes:
Centro's Casas-Stripclubs: 16 chicas, 25 sessions
Mayorista & De Greiff street-scenes: 15 chicas, 21 sessions
A more in-depth breakdown:
De Greiff: 8 chicas, 11 sessions
Mayorista: 7 chicas, 10 sessions
Aiffe: 3 chicas, 3 sessions
Masajes 55-35: 3 chicas, 3 sessions
Bell Suite: 2 chicas, 6 sessions
Venus: 2 chicas, 2 sessions
Barcelona: 1 chica, 6 sessions
Geishas2: 1 chica, 1 session
Afrodite: 1 chica, 1 session
M.Piasas: 1 chica, 1 session
Abedos: 1 chica, 1 session
Bar Hilton: 1 chica, 1 session
Total: 31 chicas for 46 sessions
[b]By Price (averaging $1US=1750 pesos)[/b]
12,000 (686 pennies): 1
15,000 (857 pennies): 1
20,000 (1143 pennies): 3
25,000 (1429 pennies): 18
30,000 (1714 pennies): 21
35,000 (2000 pennies): 2
Total Expenditure on 31 chicas for 46 sessions: 70688 pennies, or $706.88 US, an average of $15.37 US per session
[b]Tung-Tied: Scenes From A Memory[/b]
[b]Monday, June 23:[/b] The De Greiff street scene can be broken down as such: cheap tavernas and stripclubs are along Carreras 52-53-54 y De Greiff. The primary hotel-hooker scene is on the corner of Carrera 54 y De Greiff. The secondary hotel-hooker scene is Carrera 53 and spread along Calles 49-50-51-52.
The entire area is an intense jumble of characters from the lower-strata of Medellin society. Sit on the raised cement blocks of the sidewalk and have a kid sleeping at your feet, multiple bar musics blasting. A dozen more kids asking for money and/or food, lifting drain grills to dig in the muck, rifling through garbage bins, for potential jewels of value. The homeless clear away a piece of sidewalk to bed down for the night. Some old folks wander the bars asking for money. One tiny old wrinkled lady resembles a hobbit, barely four feet tall. Grab a seat in one of the bars and watch the cockroaches streak across the walls as a never-ending stream of battled-scarred characters interact, transact, soliloquize, and spaz out. Scores of police patrol the streets on motorcycles, in vehicles, on foot -- looking into the bars, running up and down hotel stairs, throwing drunks into vans, even headbunting thieves.
On Thurs-Fri-Sat nights you can watch people snorting coke from little baggies while sitting at tables, standing in hallways. On De Greiff between Carrera 53-54, along the hedge, you can watch guys smoking coke pipes. At Carrera 53 y Calle 52 you will find the glue-girls/guys. Sniffing glue from bottles is one thing; these youths use small black plastic bags as "glue-respirators," pour some glue in the bag, the bags expand and collapse as they breathe the glue fumes in. It is astonishing to see a cluster of youths getting high like this, a cross between a horror movie and a surreal Dali painting. Some have eyes glazed over with tears, saliva drooling from their mouths. These images are permanently burned in my mind.
Medellin's street scene is the second most intense I have seen, only after Vila Mimosa in Rio de Janeiro.
[b]Tuesday, June 24:[/b] Sexing mulatta Lady (appropriately named), 19 years young, is a wonder. As I repeatedly sink the cock into her chocolate-candy soul, with her eyes closed and mouth open to expose her bright pink tongue, it is like she washes us with her hands, lightly gliding the palms over her face, then my face-chest-shoulders. It is exquisite to watch, to feel, to be part of, to cause. Sexing her to Rihanna's song "Don't Stop The Music" is a memorable highlight of my six sessions with her. In doggie I came. While I rocked in spasms of orgasm she kept thrusting back on my cock, mixing ecstasy with over-sensitivity, teeth grinding to stay the course and prolong the moment.
[b]Thursday, June 26:[/b] The bars along the Mayorista street-scene typically close at 1:30am on Thurs-Fri-Sat. But this is not the end of the party. The hotel Cielo Azul has an internal bar that stays open all night and morning -- yes, serving alcohol. It's the after-hours party. One night I stayed in Mayorista till 5am to catch the Metro home; the party was still going strong.
This night about 2am, returning to centro from Mayorista via taxi, Artisttyp and I glimpse the sight of a dead man sprawled out on the ground, police lights flashing, a small crowd gathered. Unsure if it was accidental or intended.
[b]Friday, June 27:[/b] Taxied through district San Diego, in front of and around Premium Mall, to view a third streetwalker scene. A dozen chicas were selling their wares. Carried on to Poblado for a few beers.
In Mayorista I sessioned with tall spider-like negrita Milena, 18 years. Tame sexing, as I knew it would be, but what beautiful hardware. Worth it simply for the fantasy of bending her over, spreading her pink.
[b]Sunday, June 29:[/b] Goodbyes, good lucks, pack the bags, jump on a Monday bus.
This tour of South America 2006-08 officially ends on July 24. I have 23 days to take Bogota for all its worth.
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I charge 10,000-20,000 pesos an hour !
[QUOTE=Dickhead]Yeah, well, El Castillo offered to take me to some casas. He took me to one way in the fuck, and then said he was going to go shopping for shoes and took off (without selecting a chica). I think he just wanted someone to split the cab to wherever he was buying shoes. That was bullshit, dude. Leave me way the fuck out there where I don't know where I am?
Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]Hi Dick,
I'm a bi-lingual personal Entertainment Guide, I charge 10,000p ($5) an hour to take you around on public Transp. or Taxis and 20,000p ($10) an hour if we use my car ! So don't feel too bad with El Castillo, since he wasn't charging you anything, these guys do it for free!
Frank!
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[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi Dick,
I'm a bi-lingual personal Entertainment Guide, I charge 10,000p ($5) an hour to take you around on public Transp. or Taxis and 20,000p ($10) an hour if we use my car ! So don't feel too bad with El Castillo, since he wasn't charging you anything, these guys do it for free!
Frank![/QUOTE]People stay there cause thats one of the services they offer, if you stay there.
I met one of my main 40,000 peso chicas from a place Boyd took me too. I have used her services 4 trips in a row.
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Medellin/ My final thoughts
I spent a great deal of time with the mighty tunguhuara and I agree with alot of his information. However I have a different spin on things which could help a future monger traveling to Medellin. Please forgive me if anything has been repeated.
GIRLS
The thing that stood out the most about the girls were their pretty faces. The bodies are typical of most any latin country. There are all types to choose from not only the white mestizos. I was very intrigued by the dark beauties they have here. They resemble dominican girls without the african features.
The attitudes over all were very friendly. I was accepted everywhere I went without any problems. IMHO I think the service during the sessions was just average minus a few exceptions. I did recieve numerous BBBJ's for a 10k tip but only 1 or 2 were memorable. The rest felt like someone was just nibbling on my dick without any enthusiasm. Otherwise it is your standard mechanical session if you screw in a casa. I had my balls licked as well but even that was done half assed with only the tip of a tounge grazing along my balls. Too be honest I felt my pubic hairs part more than a tounge on my balls.
The magic happens when you connect with a girl and then you session. I had the opportunity to do so a few times and things worked out well. I invited one girl back to my hotel for 50k ($30) and a light meal. She did wonders for me. The other suggestion is to session in the strip clubs. The cost is slightly higher at 50/60 k but you get to feel the girl out before you session. What I didn't like about the casas were you don't have the time to read someone. When the girls come out you meet them for a few seconds then the parade continues. There is no way of knowing who you will get. It is however possible to speak to the girl about services before but sometimes the managers are around and they listen in. I think the girls should come out one by one and just stay put so we can see the whole line up.
I got tired of the casas and for the past few days I have been doing stripp clubs. $30 will get you a really good looking chica. There is no need to pay 150k for any pussy in Medellin. There is really good quality on the budget end. Do not miss the opportunity.
Conejitas and las americas were my favorite strip clubs. They open from around 6pm till 3am. They have decent rooms and they all have showers and soap. Overall I was really impressed with the cleanliness with all the scenes. Even the SW's use hotels with showers and clean towel. This is a huge difference when comparing it to ecuador chicas that IMHO are filthy.
When dealing with strip clubs 50k gets you a half hour and includes room. On the street its 25k for the girl and an average of 10k for the room (pieza).
I was into the street scene for a little while but it got old. It just doesn't make sense going through grit for the same price as a casa girl. The quality is not amazing and you deal with more of a hustler mentality. Why bother when you can pay just a little more and do it under better circumstances? Its interesting to see for a few days then you realize its not worth it.
MAYORISTA
I was't impressed with mayorista. Its one block of little tavernas and a bunch of SW's walking around. Hardly any of them interact with you if they do its only to solicit you then they walk away. Although if you brought one back to your hotel you would have her on your turf and you would be running the show. Otherwise I think they like to hit and run. I've even heard of them not wanting to take their top off and other street bullshit. I had one girl who got "tired" after banging her for 2 minutes.
As I said if you hit mayorista do what malodr does and take them out of that element or you will have to deal with street bullshit. Also there are a ton of sloppy drunks roaming around which can be rather annoying. If you sit in the bars you will not see too much action so you wind up standing outside on the street. I am not a heavy drinker so that scene got really boring for me. If I was going to do the street scene I would stick with el centro where there are no gringos. I have a feeling the girls are hip to mayorista. Even tung got bullshitted when paying for a hotel. They charged him the day rate of 18000k for the half hour and even cut his time short. Between the cab fare and drinks why bother with it when there is more available under better circumstances?
IMHO take out don't eat in. I do not recommend staying in mayorista at all. You will be in the middle of knowhere with very few places to eat and absolutely nothing to do. Poblado is close enough to mayorista 6k cab ride.
POBLADO
Nice area in the middle of knowhere. Restaurants charge nyc prices and people look very average to say the least. I assume the food would be better than the centro but I don't travel to SA to pay NA prices. There are little discos and bars but so what. The metro is a 15 minute walk from the zona rosa. Bottom line a huge yawn. Why not just go to coconut grove in miami and shmooze with those people. I could see a veteran to Medellin having a good time there. He already has the girls lined up with a nice apartment doesnt care about the price of taxis or food etc. That would make more sense to me. Staying at the mansion or castillo would also make sense but then you will never branch out. You will stay with other gringos and see nothing of what Medellin has to offer and you will not get good deals on girls. You will pay gringo prices for sure.
THE CITY
I've read in numerous travel books that Medellin is a huge cosmopolitan city. Bullshit. It's a work in progress. They have a metro a few malls and a tourist booth in plaza botero but thats it. If you want to see a movie there aren't many places and I've had to wait in really long lines to buy tickets. The times for the movies change daily so you can never plan ahead. You have to show upp and see what is available then wait around for the movie to start. Between sessions I got really bored. There is nothing to do. The closest towns are 3 to 5 hours away and will cost you a pretty penny to get too. There is only one tour available for solo travelers which is the city tour "turibus" that is located in plaza botero.
I like to shop so I was busy going in and out of leather factories but besides little leather nick nacks there is nothing only staples. A shoe to cover your foot a shirt to cover your back a belt to hold your pants up. You get the picture.
There is one area that sells colombian army gear next above ave oriental next to exito (huge super market) I found a really cool anti terrorism scarf and a few other things. Alot of things they would not sell to me because I am a civilian.
FOOD
Tung said it right it sucks. Even if you eat in the mall at food courts its still more or less the same crap just a slightly better quality. I did not enjoy many meals at all. As a matter of fact breakfast was the best meal. After my fruit and yogurt I was forced to eat fries cheese and other junk I don't like to eat. There are 1 or 2 Chinese places and a few ok pizza places but thats eat. I like latin food but the food is bland here. They don't use any spices. I can cook way better latin food than what I was paying an average of $12 for here.
STREET PEOPLE
I found this to be the most interesting part of my trip. The street rats are really freaky. You see people doing coke right out in the open and people smoking joints in public areas. It is not legal but most cops do nothing. They can however take you in whenever they want. If you are a gringo you are a target for sure. I was offered a few drags off a joint at a casa but thats it. I wouldn't play with it.
The homeless people are agressive. You have to remember these people are tweaked out on coke and are desperate. The whole centro area can be classified as a crack den. Its all over the place. You see people contorting their bodies and jonesing. Some carry objects like a part of a sink others a pair of scisssors. The centro is no joke especially at night when all you see is drug addicts. It is a risky place to be at night for sure. The daytime is a little more tame in most areas.
The other day I went on a photo shoot with juan (a driver) who traylor park introduced me too. He is a very nice guy and speaks great english. The session was going well until I started taking pictures of the hookers on de greiff and the cops pull us over. Suddenly I am surrounded by a group of 10 pissed off hookers demanding I erase the pictures. The cops have us up against the car frisking us checking ids etc. I had no idea if they were going to bring me to the station or not. I erased the photos and the cops eventually let us go. Juan had all his papers in order. Be careful what you take pictures of. Be aware that stop and search procedures happen all day long so don't carry anything stupid and have id ready. A good idea would be to familiarize yourself with the local colombian ids for chicas purposes. Maybe ask someone on the airplane to show you theres. As far as I know there are two. One has a gold crest on it and the other has yellow trimming. The sizes are not your standard usa types. If you see any with just black and white coloring its a copy.
I enjoyed my trip but I had enough. There is no way I could stay here for a month. I would go crazy. I think its good for 7 to 10 days if you don't know anyone here. Even if you did you would need to have some sort of a program like working from your labtop etc. Otherwise like I said there is nothing for the casual tourist to do. The people were very kind and are willing to do anything for you. The spanish is really different. I usually understand spanish very well but Colombia is different.
I would come back but I am in no hurry. I can do better in other countries like Argentina or Peru. However if you haven't been to Colombia you must see it. It is quiet the experience. You can get $17 snatch all day long if you want it. Everybody told me $50 was the norm. BS there is tone of cheap snatch down here for whom ever wants it just be smart and play by the monger rules so it doesnt get ruined.
Thank you ISG for another successful monger trip. I couldn't of done it without the help of other members. I hope my experiences offer assistance to those that need it.
Please PM me if I can be of any service. I return to nyc tommorow evening.
THANK YOU
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Medellin/ My final thoughts
I spent a great deal of time with the mighty tunguhuara and I agree with alot of his information. However I have a different spin on things which could help a future monger traveling to Medellin. Please forgive me if anything has been repeated.
GIRLS
The thing that stood out the most about the girls were their pretty faces. The bodies are typical of most any latin country. There are all types to choose from not only the white mestizos. I was very intrigued by the dark beauties they have here. They resemble dominican girls without the african features.
The attitudes over all were very friendly. I was accepted everywhere I went without any problems. IMHO I think the service during the sessions was just average minus a few exceptions. I did recieve numerous BBBJ's for a 10k tip but only 1 or 2 were memorable. The rest felt like someone was just nibbling on my dick without any enthusiasm. Otherwise it is your standard mechanical session if you screw in a casa. I had my balls licked as well but even that was done half assed with only the tip of a tounge grazing along my balls. Too be honest I felt my pubic hairs part more than a tounge on my balls.
The magic happens when you connect with a girl and then you session. I had the opportunity to do so a few times and things worked out well. I invited one girl back to my hotel for 50k ($30) and a light meal. She did wonders for me. The other suggestion is to session in the strip clubs. The cost is slightly higher at 50 k but you get to feel the girl out before you session. What I didn't like about the casas were you don't have the time to read someone. When the girls come out you meet them for a few seconds then the parade continues. There is no way of knowing who you will get. It is however possible to speak to the girl about services before but sometimes the managers are around and they listen in. I think the girls should come out one by one and just stay put so we can see the whole line up.
I got tired of the casas and for the past few days I have been doing strip clubs. $30 will get you a really good looking chica. There is no need to pay 150k for any pussy in Medellin. There is really good quality on the budget end. Do not miss the opportunity.
Conejitas and las americas were my favorite strip clubs. They open from around 6pm till 3am. They have decent rooms and they all have showers and soap. Overall I was really impressed with the cleanliness with all the scenes. Even the SW's use hotels with showers and clean towels. This is a huge difference when comparing it to ecuador chicas that IMHO are filthy.
When dealing with strip clubs 50k gets you a half hour and includes the room. On the street its 25k for the girl and an average of 10k for the room (pieza).
I was into the street scene for a little while butthen it got old. It just doesn't make sense going through grit for the same price as a casa girl. The quality is not amazing and you deal with more of a hustler mentality. Why bother when you can pay just a little more and do it under better circumstances? It is interesting to see for a few days then you realize it's not worth it.
MAYORISTA
I wasn't impressed with mayorista. It is one block of little tavernas and a bunch of SW's walking around. Hardly any of them interact with you if they do its only to solicit you then they walk away. Although if you brought one back to your hotel you would have her on your turf and you would be running the show. Otherwise I think they like to hit and run. I've even heard of them not wanting to take their top off and other street bullshit. I had one girl who got "tired" after screwing for 2 minutes.
As I said if you hit mayorista do what malodr does and take them out of that element . Also there are a ton of sloppy drunks roaming around which can be rather annoying. If you sit in the bars you will not see much action so you wind up standing outside on the street. I am not a heavy drinker so that scene got really boring for me. If I was going to do the street scene I would stick with el centro where there are no gringos. I have a feeling the girls are hip to mayorista. Even tung got bullshitted when paying for a hotel. They charged him the day rate of 18000k for the half hour and even cut his time short. Between the cab fare and drinks why bother with it when there are more chicas available under better circumstances?
IMHO take out don't eat in. I do not recommend staying in mayorista at all. You will be in the middle of knowhere with very few places to eat and absolutely nothing to do. Poblado is close enough to mayorista 6k cab ride.
PARQUE BOLIVAR (BJ PARK)
I don't get it. Why is this park named BJ park? My hotel was 3 blocks from there and I only saw one girl my entire stay. I saw her many other places as well so I doubt PB is her main hang out.
Nothing goes on as far as I saw. The occasional transexual passes by that's all.
POBLADO
Nice area in the middle of knowhere. Restaurants charge nyc prices and people look very average to say the least. I assume the food would be better than the centro but I don't travel to SA to pay NA prices. There are little discos and bars but so what. The metro is a 15 minute walk from the zona rosa. Bottom line a huge yawn. Why not go to coconut grove in miami and shmooze with those people? I could see a veteran to Medellin having a good time there. He already has the girls lined up with a nice apartment doesnt care about the price of taxis or food etc. That would make more sense to me. Staying at the mansion or castillo would also make sense but then you will never branch out. You will stay with other gringos and see nothing of what Medellin has to offer and you will not get good deals on girls. You will pay gringo prices for sure.
THE CITY
I've read in numerous travel books that Medellin is a huge cosmopolitan city. Bullshit. It is a work in progress. They have a metro a few malls and a tourist booth in plaza botero but thats it. If you want to see a movie there aren't many places and I've had to wait in really long lines to buy tickets. The times for the movies change daily so you can never plan ahead. You have to show up and see what is available then wait around for the movie to start. Between sessions I got really bored. There is nothing to do. The closest towns are 3 to 5 hours away and will cost you a pretty penny to get too. There is only one tour available for solo travelers which is the city tour "turibus" that is located in plaza botero.
I like to shop so I was busy going in and out of leather factories but besides leather knick knacks there is nothing only staples. A shoe to cover your foot a shirt to cover your back a belt to hold your pants up. You get the picture.
There is an area that sells colombian army gear above ave oriental next to exito (huge super market) I found a really cool anti terrorism scarf and a few other things. Alot of things they would not sell to me because I am a civilian.
FOOD
Tung said it right it sucks. Even if you eat in the mall at food courts its still more or less the same crap just a slightly better quality. I did not enjoy many meals. As a matter of fact breakfast was the best meal. After my fruit and yogurt I was forced to eat fries cheese and other junk I don't like to eat. There are 1 or 2 Chinese places and a few ok pizza places but thats eat. I like latin food but the food is bland here. They don't use any spices. I can cook way better latin food than what I was paying an average of $12 for here.
STREET PEOPLE
I found this to be the most interesting part of my trip. The street rats are really freaky. You see people doing coke right out in the open and people smoking joints in public areas. It is not legal but most cops do nothing. They can however take you in whenever they want. If you are a gringo you are a target for sure. I was offered a few drags off a joint at a casa but thats it. I wouldn't play with it.
The homeless people are agressive. You have to remember these people are tweaked out on coke and are desperate. The whole centro area can be classified as a crack den. Its all over the place. You see people contorting their bodies and jonesing. Some carry objects like a part of a sink others a pair of scisssors. The centro is no joke especially at night when all you see is drug addicts. The daytime is a little more tame .
The other day I went on a photo shoot with juan (a driver) who traylor park introduced me too. He is a very nice guy and speaks great english. The session was going well until I started taking pictures of the hookers on de greiff and the cops pulled us over. Suddenly I am surrounded by a group of 10 pissed off hookers demanding I erase the pictures. The cops have us up against the car frisking us checking ids etc. I had no idea if they were going to bring me to the station or not. I erased the photos and the cops eventually let us go. Juan had all his papers in order. Be careful what you take pictures of. Be aware that stop and search procedures happen all day long so don't carry anything stupid and have id ready. A good idea would be to familiarize yourself with the local colombian ids for chicas purposes. Maybe ask someone on the airplane to show you theres. As far as I know there are two. One has a gold crest on it and the other has yellow trimming. The sizes are not your standard usa types. If you see any with just black and white coloring its a copy.
I enjoyed my trip but I had enough. There is no way I could stay here for a month. I would go crazy. I think its good for 7 to 10 days if you don't know anyone here. Even if you did you would need to have some sort of a program like working from your labtop etc. Otherwise like I said there is nothing for the casual tourist to do. The people were very kind and are willing to do anything for you. The spanish is really different. I usually understand spanish very well but Colombia is different.
I would come back but I am in no hurry. I can do better in other countries like Argentina or Peru. However if you haven't been to Colombia you must see it. It is quiet the experience. You can get $17 snatch all day long if you want it. Everybody told me $50 was the norm. BS there is tone of cheap snatch down here for whom ever wants it just be smart and play by the monger rules so it doesnt get ruined.
Thank you ISG for another successful monger trip. I couldn't of done it without the help of other members. I hope my experiences offer assistance to those that need it.
Please PM me if I can be of any service. I return to nyc tommorow evening.
THANK YOU
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Tung
Keep up the great work! Looking forward to your Bogota reports!
Suerte,
LB
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Free "cutie" from "La Mayorista"
[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi guys,
Save tons of $ for your Night Life and other Entertainment Needs by staying at "My Place" on "La Mayorista" Strip ! You can go to the Merdellin Apartments Thread or read all of my posts for more info. If you want pics. of some of "La Mayorista" girls partying at "My Place" for 25k e-mail me or PM directly ! [/QUOTE]Hi guys,
For the months of July, August and September "My Place" is offering a free "massage" upon arrival to Medellin by the "cutie" of your choice from "La Mayorista" for a stay of 5 days or longer! Contact info. For My Place can be found by going to the Medellin Apartments Thread or by reading all of my "post"! You may also reply to this post with your e-mail!
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P4P quality down, reg girl quality UP
So during this 9-10th trip to Col, the usual Bog for work, MDE for fun--I had to sit back and realize that my time mongering was getting less and less. This is not an objective measure by any means, but I found that my time spent hunting for a gem was increasing longer and longer (despite my standards getting lower over these trips). One night, a Thursday no less, I hit all the major street/bar venues and could not find anything. Finally 5 hrs later, I found what I thought was a gem street girl I'm San Diego. Turned out to be a major dud, money grubbing street urchin.
I did have some fun at New Life. Centro rocks. Not for the casas so much as for the amazing amount of hot girls walking around. I snagged 5 girls that were in centro shopping and was able to bed all of them. Each was at least an 8, btwn 20-32 yo, and estrato 3-5. The oldest one, I guess not surprisingly was the wildest lay.
Not sure why the monger scene in my eyes has detioriated, but I find the time invested in finding a gem puta is now better spent bagging a regular chica. I your Spanish is conversational and fluent enough, MDE is the greatest city ok earth.
La Kasa is a great club. Took home an amazing girl from here-def a prepaga but she never asked for a dime (I did get her a few E pills which made the night lots of fun).
There is a strip club in Itagui that americanos might like. Girls will give table and lap dances. No sure about the name but all the taxi drivers know it.
Almost got into a fight two nights-once at Mangos with a drunk idiotand another time at Wild with a guy that looked sober. I blame this on my two buddies I had visiting me who looked like the normal out of place gringos.
Spent a night at Nikkitown around Centro. It's a gutter drug infested nabe. Best time of my trip. My buddy that lives there (local) hooked up a few girls. Go here if you get the chance but go with a local. We went to one reservado that was unbelievable. Dirt cheap. I think payment in grams of C is more the norm here LOL.
Will be back next month boys.
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]I did have some fun at New Life. Centro rocks. Not for the casas so much as for the amazing amount of hot girls walking around. I snagged 5 girls that were in centro shopping and was able to bed all of them. Each was at least an 8, btwn 20-32 yo, and estrato 3-5. The oldest one, I guess not surprisingly was the wildest lay.[/QUOTE]Are you saying that you just talked to a couple chicks at the mall and was like, "hey girl, wanna go back to my room and have some fun?"....!!! are you serious haha thats is cool. if its true.
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Another add-on note
Between MDE and BOG, the p4p scene in BOG is much, much better. Still makes me wonder why the MDE board on here is so much more active than BOG. Anyway, the Santa Fe red-light alone has more P4P'ers than all of MDE combined most likely. And that is just one area.
One other note about the reg. girls in MDE. The hottest ones that I have met are in Bello and Manrrique. Two cool barrios. Manrrique doesn't have much to do, but in Bello there is a nice little area with bars and stuff. Good times.
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[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi guys,
For the months of July, August and September "My Place" is offering a free "massage" upon arrival to Medellin by the "cutie" of your choice from "La Mayorista" for a stay of 5 days or longer! Contact info. For My Place can be found by going to the Medellin Apartments Thread or by reading all of my "post"! You may also reply to this post with your e-mail![/QUOTE]Shouldn't this kind of posting and others from the past, be in the classified section?
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Between MDE and BOG, the p4p scene in BOG is much, much better. Still makes me wonder why the MDE board on here is so much more active than BOG. Anyway, the Santa Fe red-light alone has more P4P'ers than all of MDE combined most likely. And that is just one area.
One other note about the reg. girls in MDE. The hottest ones that I have met are in Bello and Manrrique. Two cool barrios. Manrrique doesn't have much to do, but in Bello there is a nice little area with bars and stuff. Good times.[/QUOTE]I for one won't go to BOG so all my reports will be on MDE.
I was in Bello, its a nice cool neighborhood.
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[QUOTE=Tjmee]Are you saying that you just talked to a couple chicks at the mall and was like, "hey girl, wanna go back to my room and have some fun?"....!!! are you serious haha thats is cool. if its true.[/QUOTE]I met a few as well and its gets easier as the trips add up. I mean after 6 trips, I have been to many areas and can keep a conversation going. They like ot when people are interested in their city.
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[QUOTE=Tjmee]Are you saying that you just talked to a couple chicks at the mall and was like, "hey girl, wanna go back to my room and have some fun?"....!!! are you serious haha thats is cool. if its true.[/QUOTE]Jaja. No way is it THAT easy. BUT, two of them I did smash within 4 hours of meeting. I met them in Centro, chatted them up, spit some game about being new to Medellin and offering them if they would like to tag along and help me shop and maybe grab an early dinner. During dinner, the drinks were poured and a half bottle of rum later, we were back at my place.
The other ones, were a little bit more work but not really. Had them meet up with me later at night, went to a club with them, and that was a wrap right there. It's easy. Just learn the language.
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Nice in Bello?
Please fill me in Bonhead. I spend much time in Bello (parqu), event visited the ex-president's home (cool thought) but I have not found the anything nice in a mongering way.
I had stayed at the hotel America in Bello and still no action pro, semi or non.
I will be back in Oct or Nov in that this is were the family court is in which I filed for divorce; let me know where to go. (I know the red bars and unless the repairs to the are brought a new breed I do not think anything or great quality was there.
Please mentor me in the ways of Bello, I will need it on the next visit!
Thanks
[QUOTE=Bonhead]Between MDE and BOG, the p4p scene in BOG is much, much better. Still makes me wonder why the MDE board on here is so much more active than BOG. Anyway, the Santa Fe red-light alone has more P4P'ers than all of MDE combined most likely. And that is just one area.
One other note about the reg. girls in MDE. The hottest ones that I have met are in Bello and Manrrique. Two cool barrios. Manrrique doesn't have much to do, but in Bello there is a nice little area with bars and stuff. Good times.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Malodr]I for one won't go to BOG so all my reports will be on MDE.
I was in Bello, its a nice cool neighborhood.[/QUOTE]Interesting--and why won't you go there? If I take my previous line of reasoning one step further, I would say that the best p4p colombianas aren't even in Colombia. For example, I have NEVER been to any casa/masaje spot where the quality comes anywhere near Golden Times in Panama.
The best bang I ever got for my buck was in Colon, Panama. I got stuck there three weeks for work and found three nice bars with colombiana putas. They loved a young'n like me. After paying the $50multa, the girls would never ask for more than $50 for TLN, and these were 8-10's, real spinners and superstars in bed.
I love Colombianas, but knowing that the best p4p chaucha is exported leaving the grade B putas for the local mongers, vexes me. Then again the trade off of AAA normal non-pro chaucha more than makes up for this.
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Interesting--and why won't you go there? If I take my previous line of reasoning one step further, I would say that the best p4p colombianas aren't even in Colombia. For example, I have NEVER been to any casa/masaje spot where the quality comes anywhere near Golden Times in Panama.
The best bang I ever got for my buck was in Colon, Panama. I got stuck there three weeks for work and found three nice bars with colombiana putas. They loved a young'n like me. After paying the $50multa, the girls would never ask for more than $50 for TLN, and these were 8-10's, real spinners and superstars in bed.
I love Colombianas, but knowing that the best p4p chaucha is exported leaving the grade B putas for the local mongers, vexes me. Then again the trade off of AAA normal non-pro chaucha more than makes up for this.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I'm going to check out the Panama threads now!
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Interesting--and why won't you go there? If I take my previous line of reasoning one step further, I would say that the best p4p colombianas aren't even in Colombia. For example, I have NEVER been to any casa/masaje spot where the quality comes anywhere near Golden Times in Panama.
The best bang I ever got for my buck was in Colon, Panama. I got stuck there three weeks for work and found three nice bars with colombiana putas. They loved a young'n like me. After paying the $50multa, the girls would never ask for more than $50 for TLN, and these were 8-10's, real spinners and superstars in bed.
I love Colombianas, but knowing that the best p4p chaucha is exported leaving the grade B putas for the local mongers, vexes me. Then again the trade off of AAA normal non-pro chaucha more than makes up for this.[/QUOTE]If thats Grade B, I could never survive Grade A.
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[QUOTE=Justafool]Please fill me in Bonhead. I spend much time in Bello (parqu), event visited the ex-president's home (cool thought) but I have not found the anything nice in a mongering way.
I had stayed at the hotel America in Bello and still no action pro, semi or non.
I will be back in Oct or Nov in that this is were the family court is in which I filed for divorce; let me know where to go. (I know the red bars and unless the repairs to the are brought a new breed I do not think anything or great quality was there.
Please mentor me in the ways of Bello, I will need it on the next visit!
Thanks[/QUOTE]In my post regarding Bello, I was talking about "reg. Girls" as in regular non-pro girls. There is no p4p scene there as far as I know. But I enjoy going to barrio bello (? I think that is what it is called), a bunch of bars where you can meet reg girls.
Bello is more on the supply side of the p4p scene from what I've seen. The girls come into medellín I guess with the thought that they are outside of their Puebla and less prone to being outted as a prepago.
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Security at the airport
You *must show up 3 hours early. My baggage was searched then I had to pass through 2 metal detectors removing everything including shoes. They do one more pat down before boarding the plane.
When you go through the second metal detector be advised that there is no bathroom in the (avianca) gate area. You will need to go through the security process again if you leave the area. There are no stores in this area.
It was a huge pain in the ass.
The good news is the food is priced the same as anywhere else.
If you connect through miami or houston add another security search.
Why not just board the plane naked?
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Thank you ISG for another successful monger trip. I couldn't of done it without the help of other members. I hope my experiences offer assistance to those that need it.
Please PM me if I can be of any service. I return to nyc tommorow evening.
THANK YOU[/QUOTE]That was a great post Arti. I like the perespective on the solo monger because I tend to monger solo and hook up with different people. MDE sounds like it is more difficult in you do not stay at Mansion or Castillo.
Great overall thoughts.
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Interesting--and why won't you go there? If I take my previous line of reasoning one step further, I would say that the best p4p colombianas aren't even in Colombia. For example, I have NEVER been to any casa/masaje spot where the quality comes anywhere near Golden Times in Panama.
The best bang I ever got for my buck was in Colon, Panama. I got stuck there three weeks for work and found three nice bars with colombiana putas. They loved a young'n like me. After paying the $50multa, the girls would never ask for more than $50 for TLN, and these were 8-10's, real spinners and superstars in bed.
I love Colombianas, but knowing that the best p4p chaucha is exported leaving the grade B putas for the local mongers, vexes me. Then again the trade off of AAA normal non-pro chaucha more than makes up for this.[/QUOTE]Well to each his own, but I would take the chicas I find in Colombia over those Golden Times traveling pros any day.
I've been to Golden Times and over-priced places like it many times ... nothing like Colombia itself for me.
Of course I'm not in to the fake tittied, hard core pros either.
Funny, the last time I was in Cartagena a chica came running up to me and said she remembered me from Golden Times a couple years back.
She was making the circuit. Panama, San Jose CR, Cartagena.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]POBLADO
Nice area in the middle of knowhere. Restaurants charge nyc prices and people look very average to say the least. I assume the food would be better than the centro but I don't travel to SA to pay NA prices. There are little discos and bars but so what. The metro is a 15 minute walk from the zona rosa. Bottom line a huge yawn. Why not go to coconut grove in miami and shmooze with those people? I could see a veteran to Medellin having a good time there. He already has the girls lined up with a nice apartment doesnt care about the price of taxis or food etc. That would make more sense to me. Staying at the mansion or castillo would also make sense but then you will never branch out. You will stay with other gringos and see nothing of what Medellin has to offer and you will not get good deals on girls. You will pay gringo prices for sure.[/QUOTE]Your synopsis of Medellin made some good points but this is funny about el Poblado.
To be honest, I'm not much into the snootyness of el Poblado either but there are some major beauties hanging out in Parque Lleras and the malls of el Poblado ... like el Tesoro and Oviedo.
I wouldn't call them average at best by any means IMHO.
And why just because your staying at the Mansion or Castillo can you not branch out?
A quick cab ride to el Centro, el Estadio area, la Mayorista, wherever ... big deal.
Nice report though I differ on many points you made about Medellin. I guess we all have our own take on things.
When I read for example that you can do better in Argentina I laughed.
I visit Buenos Aires quite frequently, and everytime I'm there I miss Medellin or just Colombia in general and it's friendliness.
Happy travels
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My experience too
You said as I lived there. Quality is OK but I have not cracked anyone there as yet.
Try again on the next visit, that my dentist (Sonria) is in Bello therefore cannot miss out.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Bonhead]In my post regarding Bello, I was talking about "reg. Girls" as in regular non-pro girls. There is no p4p scene there as far as I know. But I enjoy going to barrio bello (? I think that is what it is called), a bunch of bars where you can meet reg girls.
Bello is more on the supply side of the p4p scene from what I've seen. The girls come into medellín I guess with the thought that they are outside of their Puebla and less prone to being outted as a prepago.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp] there is no bathroom in the gate area.[/QUOTE]I wonder what that was that I used to take a dump in the gate area when I left in June?
After you pass through security, there are bathrooms on the right before you get to the gate area. You do not have to leave the security area to go to the bathroom.
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[QUOTE=Steve 99]That was a great post Arti. I like the perespective on the solo monger because I tend to monger solo and hook up with different people. MDE sounds like it is more difficult in you do not stay at Mansion or Castillo.
Great overall thoughts.[/QUOTE]Its not that difficult at all.
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Lots of dimes everywhere in Poblado on the weekends--probably the single best scene of hot hot hot girls you can find in medellín clustered together in such masses. Will they give you anytime of day? Why don't most mongers enjoy going there?
I think it comes down to the issue of most mongers a) speak little Spanish and b) they realize that these girls with their True Religion jeans ($250), Mac makeup ($100), iPhone ($450), two door compact car ($20k), their OWN half bottle of absolut ($18)--are not going to be simply impressed by you being a gringo. These girls are on your level financially (most likely bc of daddy warbucks), they have visas to travel to the US/Europe and they can be more discerning in their tastes.
Do you have a chance with them? Depends on you. Do hot chicks give you the time of day back home in the US/Europe/etc? If yes, you will get plenty of action with non-pro high end girls here. Way more than back home actually. That's the beauty of MDE--you are you * 3 down here. The problem is, if you are 0 back home, then you know that 0 * any # will always = 0.
I see the biggest Midwest dorks at the club, dancing like they are chanelling Carlton Banks, but they still have some personality I suppose and spend their time with really cute, nice looking girls.
p4p for me is fun and sometimes I prefer it to hunting non-pro tail. Why? Because it is less emotionally taxing. Work-wise, I find it is sometimes more work finding the gem p4p girl. Also, there is that sense of absolute command I feel, where my desires are limited only by my budget and my ability to pick well the girl I choose to pay.
Ingrid libre!
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[QUOTE=Ricker]Well to each his own, but I would take the chicas I find in Colombia over those Golden Times traveling pros any day.
I've been to Golden Times and over-priced places like it many times ... nothing like Colombia itself for me.
Of course I'm not in to the fake tittied, hard core pros either.
Funny, the last time I was in Cartagena a chica came running up to me and said she remembered me from Golden Times a couple years back.
She was making the circuit. Panama, San Jose CR, Cartagena.[/QUOTE]Can you name a single p4p place in mde that compares in quality to golden times? Fase dos doesn't come close. anywhere else?
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2 hotties
[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Atten-SHION
I just had the best 3 some of my life, these two girls were great, and I performed as well too.[/QUOTE]Hi sailor,
Have you got any additional info on these 2 hotties you featured a while back? price, performance etc
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[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Atten-SHION
I just had the best 3 some of my life, these two girls were great, and I performed as well too.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMp2a9EqiGU[/url]
To follow on, i believe this could be 1 of those girls on youtube, check it out
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Lots of dimes everywhere in Poblado on the weekends--probably the single best scene of hot hot hot girls you can find in medellín clustered together in such masses. Will they give you anytime of day? Why don't most mongers enjoy going there?[/QUOTE]I speak Spanish and live in Medellín, Barrio Santa Mónica. I simply don't care for high-maintenance girls. Thus I spend very little time in Poblado. You can have the princesses.
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[QUOTE=Tom 33]I wonder what that was that I used to take a dump in the gate area when I left in June?
After you pass through security, there are bathrooms on the right before you get to the gate area. You do not have to leave the security area to go to the bathroom.[/QUOTE]Yes you do. I just went through it last night. I was flying on avianca airlines which had their gate * after the bathrooms and after the second xray machine.
To use a bathroom I had to leave the secure area and return to the gate after going through the 2nd xray(not the 1st) machine all over again. There was no other way of doing it. Other people were pissed off too.
Maybe you were traveling on a different airline.
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Can you name a single p4p place in mde that compares in quality to golden times? Fase dos doesn't come close. anywhere else?[/QUOTE]Amigo, our tastes are obviously different.
First of all, I can't stand Face Dos.
And honestly, I would rather visit various casas and strip clubs in el Centro than hang out in Golden Times.
I look for sweethearts that I bond with not the professional circuit chica in Panama.
That:s just what I like ... to you they may be second rate, but not to me.
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[QUOTE=Ricker]And honestly, I would rather visit various casas and strip clubs in el Centro than hang out in Golden Times.[/QUOTE]Not saying that you won't find a few 8's or 9's at the casa and strip clubs in el Centro, but they are FAR and FEW in between.
El Castillo and la Piscina in Bogota (Santa Fe) both are heads and shoulders above any spot in MDE. All I am saying is that quality-wise, there is absolutely no question that Medellin offers sub-par p4p talent compared to other destinations. I actually met a Golden Time girl on her off day at Mystic (a disco in PTY), had no clue she was a GT girl (but I wasn't blind to the fact that she was in PTY for work). She turned out to be awesome, sweet, friendly, etc. plus a solid 9.5 to boot. We ended up spending my last three days in PTY together with no expectation of her getting paid.
I honestly don't think that your chances of meeting a sweet heart at the casas/strip clubs in el Centro are THAT much higher (maybe 20%?) than BOG or PTY. I still find I have to visit 7-10 places in el Centro before I meet a 8+ with a good personality.
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[QUOTE=Tom 33]I speak Spanish and live in Medellín[/QUOTE]Why would you think that is all you need to land a girl, anywhere?
I speak perfect English and live in NYC, does that mean I am picking up models and sliding into 1Oak or Rose Bar to party every night (fyi: those are two of the toughest spots to get into in NYC)?
Just because you are gringo does not mean you can bag every single hot chick in Medellin. The higher you go up the estrato social ladder, the more discerning the women become. Medellin is the type of place where a red-neck, overweight gringo working at Walmart in Montana can come down and meet and actually 'date' a pretty good looking estrato 1-2 girl. The girls are more friendlier because they perceive the gringo will be nicer than the guys around their way, and they also feel that from an economic perspective, their situation might have a chance of being improved if they can land a gringo.
The princesses of el Poblado obviously don't have to worry about this. A lot of girl 'friends' in Medellin are actually live in el Poblado, Las Palmas, Envigado, etc. I relate to them more. They have traveled, are a more cultured, highly educated, career oriented, etc. AND, important to me, when deciding when to eventually end up in a relationship with a girl, I know that they aren't there for their own economic benefit.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Yes you do. I just went through it last night. I was flying on avianca airlines which had their gate * after the bathrooms and after the second xray machine.
To use a bathroom I had to leave the secure area and return to the gate after going through the 2nd xray(not the 1st) machine all over again. There was no other way of doing it. Other people were pissed off too.
Maybe you were traveling on a different airline.[/QUOTE]I was flying AA this time. However, I have flown Avianca in the past and it was not a problem then. Shit changes. And Avianca is now my carrier of last choice. Hopefully I will never have to find out.
Why things would be different for different airlines is beyond me. All international departures go through the same gate. Of course why you need to run your carry-ons through two different x-ray machines is beyond me as well.
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[QUOTE=Tom 33]I was flying AA this time. However, I have flown Avianca in the past and it was not a problem then. Shit changes. And Avianca is now my carrier of last choice. Hopefully I will never have to find out.
Why things would be different for different airlines is beyond me. All international departures go through the same gate. Of course why you need to run your carry-ons through two different x-ray machines is beyond me as well.[/QUOTE]The gates are situated in different areas corresponding to the airline you are flying. It just so happens avianca has their gate past the bathrooms and past the second metal detector. I think AA was right after the first metal detector and had access to the bathroom.
Avianca wasn't anything special but they offer non stops from NYC- Medellin. I now fly non stop wherever I go. I will not deal with the mess of changing planes. Whoever offers it gets my business.
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Airline xray
There are two different xray and metal detectors because one is manned by the military and the other by Avianca. Avianca doesnt trust the security of the military check and the military doesn't trust the security of the Avianca check...because of previous bombings. Atleast this is my educated guess as to why there are two seperate, identical checks.
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[QUOTE=Bonhead] All I am saying is that quality-wise, there is absolutely no question that Medellin offers sub-par p4p talent compared to other destinations. [/QUOTE]It depends what you are comparing it too. I'd say it's way better than ecuador and as convenient as buenos aires. Once you find your niche you can get decent sessions for cheap($30 Tops) in medellin. It takes a little effort thats all.
Also you will find yourself going back to the same few places where you did get good service. After awhile that will get played out and you will need to find new hang outs.
The best quality sex I've had is in el salvador hands down.
Medellin is a cross between quito and buenos aires with a rougher edge and less developed.
Go to medellin and experience it for yourself. It's worth it for a few days. Do not let people discourage you from going.
I did enjoy myself down there. There was just a few issues that kept arising....like food.
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MSNBC report on safety of Medellin
[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24935499/[/url]
I have always been leery of going there - kidnappings, drugs, etc. but this report has got me thinking. Maybe I will give it a chance.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]It depends what you are comparing it too. I'd say it's way better than ecuador and as convenient as buenos aires. Once you find your niche you can get decent sessions for cheap($30 Tops) in medellin. It takes a little effort thats all.
Medellin is a cross between quito and buenos aires with a rougher edge and less developed.
Go to medellin and experience it for yourself. It's worth it for a few days. Do not let people discourage you from going.
I did enjoy myself down there. There was just a few issues that kept arising....like food.[/QUOTE]I've made a few posts in quick succession so you might have lost my train of thought between them. When I say that medellín is sub-par, I am comparing it only to other destinations where Colombianas ply their trade in major number(ie PTY, San Jose, CR, CTG, BOG, Buenos Aires, etc.).
And my point in making that comparison was to point out that p4p quality of the Colombianas is like a strong export product of a small country in that most of the best stuff can be found outside of the source.
And not sure where you surmised I have not been to medellín, but I have been there plenty of times. So why do I write all this if I think p4p is better elsewhere? I actually like the city very much, spend lots of time there and as such since I know the place, I feel compelled to share my experiences.
Right now for someone from the States looking for a high quality monger getaway, if you can bear the flight, Buenos Aires probably is the best value without having to sacrifice on quality.
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[QUOTE=Edward M][url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24935499/[/url]
I have always been leery of going there - kidnappings, drugs, etc. but this report has got me thinking. Maybe I will give it a chance.[/QUOTE]This report is true. But right now with the blow dealt to the FARC, I'd say keep you guard up b/c they will most likely retaliate by increasing their number of kidnappings, bombings (a major plot was just foiled in BOG), and any other means of attracting attention to their cause.
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Why would you think that is all you need to land a girl, anywhere?
I speak perfect English and live in NYC, does that mean I am picking up models and sliding into 1Oak or Rose Bar to party every night (fyi: those are two of the toughest spots to get into in NYC)? [/QUOTE]One thing is certain: you and I do not speak the same language.
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Why would you think that is all you need to land a girl, anywhere?
I speak perfect English and live in NYC, does that mean I am picking up models and sliding into 1Oak or Rose Bar to party every night (fyi: those are two of the toughest spots to get into in NYC)?
Just because you are gringo does not mean you can bag every single hot chick in Medellin. The higher you go up the estrato social ladder, the more discerning the women become. Medellin is the type of place where a red-neck, overweight gringo working at Walmart in Montana can come down and meet and actually 'date' a pretty good looking estrato 1-2 girl. The girls are more friendlier because they perceive the gringo will be nicer than the guys around their way, and they also feel that from an economic perspective, their situation might have a chance of being improved if they can land a gringo.
The princesses of el Poblado obviously don't have to worry about this. A lot of girl 'friends' in Medellin are actually live in el Poblado, Las Palmas, Envigado, etc. I relate to them more. They have traveled, are a more cultured, highly educated, career oriented, etc. AND, important to me, when deciding when to eventually end up in a relationship with a girl, I know that they aren't there for their own economic benefit.[/QUOTE]I agree with you Bonehead on most of your points but por favoooooor ... you can have the princesses of Poblado and all their culture, etc.
I hate to generalize, but I will. These princesses are more spoiled than the gringa, having had servants their entire lives and given everything they desire their entire lives.
The elite of Colombia to me is not the "real" Colombian.
They treat their own countrymen like shit, I see it all the time, I'm sure you have too.
I'm glad you can relate to them because I sure don't and don't want to either.
Pain in the ass. Been there, done that :)
Good luck!
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Not saying that you won't find a few 8's or 9's at the casa and strip clubs in el Centro, but they are FAR and FEW in between.
El Castillo and la Piscina in Bogota (Santa Fe) both are heads and shoulders above any spot in MDE. All I am saying is that quality-wise, there is absolutely no question that Medellin offers sub-par p4p talent compared to other destinations. I actually met a Golden Time girl on her off day at Mystic (a disco in PTY), had no clue she was a GT girl (but I wasn't blind to the fact that she was in PTY for work). She turned out to be awesome, sweet, friendly, etc. plus a solid 9.5 to boot. We ended up spending my last three days in PTY together with no expectation of her getting paid.
I honestly don't think that your chances of meeting a sweet heart at the casas/strip clubs in el Centro are THAT much higher (maybe 20%?) than BOG or PTY. I still find I have to visit 7-10 places in el Centro before I meet a 8+ with a good personality.[/QUOTE]Bottom line here is, your perception of quality is not the same as mine or of everyone else for that matter.
I'm glad you met a sweet Golden Time chica on her time off and you guys hit it off. You know as well as I do though, that's a rare hit for those chicas.
You say that absolutely, without question, Medellin offers sub-par talent and I definitely disagree. Because our tastes our different.
I've traveled many times to Panama, CR, BA, etc and have seen, and have had the Colombianas there.
I would choose Medellin and it's talent hands down over any of those other destinations.
As a matter of fact, I cringe to the thought of those, mostly, ultra-professional Colombianas working in CR or Panama.
That's what makes this mongering great. Everyone has their own perception of a 7, an 8 or a 9-10 level chica.
I respect your opinions, you've obviously traveled a bit, but we do not have the same taste for sure.
Take care amigo
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El Colombiano article on Medellín sex trade
See the link below. This article in Spanish discusses the increasing number of families who offer the virginity of their adolescent girls to strangers, though at a substantial price.
The article also mentions that plenty of chicas are "working" on the 4th floor of the Terminal del Norte. I'd never noticed them, but I guess it goes to show that there are "working" chicas everywhere in the valley. I'll never forget going to a livestock auction last year and seeing working girls.
[url]http://www.elcolombiano.com/BancoConocimiento/V/virgenes_otro_negocio_sexual/virgenes_otro_negocio_sexual.asp?CodSeccion=9[/url]
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Colombianas
"And my point in making that comparison was to point out that p4p quality of the Colombianas is like a strong export product of a small country in that most of the best stuff can be found outside of the source. " Bonehead wrote
I have heard the opposite from hundreds of guests. They hate the attitudes of Colobianas say is CR. The girls in MDE are sweeter and more friendly. Traveling ruins most of the girls. Now they know how much they can get away with with Americans. They still want that money when they return to MDE. I live here and gladly will take the sub standard girls here any day.
Good thing I am not picky because I don't have the money to compete with the rich guys.
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[QUOTE=Ricker]I agree with you Bonehead on most of your points but por favoooooor ... you can have the princesses of Poblado and all their culture, etc.
I hate to generalize, but I will. These princesses are more spoiled than the gringa, having had servants their entire lives and given everything they desire their entire lives.
The elite of Colombia to me is not the "real" Colombian.
They treat their own countrymen like shit, I see it all the time, I'm sure you have too.
I'm glad you can relate to them because I sure don't and don't want to either.
Pain in the ass. Been there, done that :)
Good luck![/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more, Tha south of Medellin is B. S. And like the top 1% of Medellin, You want to see the real Paisas go to el Centro and to the North, Bello, Copacabana, Castilla. That is the real Medellin, I remember going to Parque Lleras and Mall Oviedo and Tesoro and being so disappointed because it was just like being in South Beach all over again, like I never even left home, right up to the little princesses, Eurotrash Lounge music and wanna be's and posers. I got out of there fast and went to a local spot! LOL
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[QUOTE=ElCastillo]"And my point in making that comparison was to point out that p4p quality of the Colombianas is like a strong export product of a small country in that most of the best stuff can be found outside of the source. " Bonehead wrote
I have heard the opposite from hundreds of guests. They hate the attitudes of Colobianas say is CR. The girls in MDE are sweeter and more friendly. Traveling ruins most of the girls. Now they know how much they can get away with with Americans. They still want that money when they return to MDE. I live here and gladly will take the sub standard girls here any day.
Good thing I am not picky because I don't have the money to compete with the rich guys.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. I would never think of banging a colombian in Costa Rica or Peru. Most of the colombians I've met while traveling are hardened pros. If they are that confident with their game (and they are) to take it on the road then buyer beware. I put dominicans in the same category. Only in the DR.
Low end snatch is the best. You are dealing with a different animal.
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[QUOTE=ElCastillo]"And my point in making that comparison was to point out that p4p quality of the Colombianas is like a strong export product of a small country in that most of the best stuff can be found outside of the source. " Bonehead wrote
I have heard the opposite from hundreds of guests. They hate the attitudes of Colobianas say is CR. The girls in MDE are sweeter and more friendly. Traveling ruins most of the girls. Now they know how much they can get away with with Americans. They still want that money when they return to MDE. I live here and gladly will take the sub standard girls here any day.
Good thing I am not picky because I don't have the money to compete with the rich guys.[/QUOTE]When you are done, pass them all to me. I like them as well.
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It's an adventure
This whole mongering thing is a true adventure for me. I try to approach it that way. I agree mostly with MiamiHeat and Rickers comments. I think its just a combination of being a gentleman and treating the ladies nicely (pro or regular gal). This applies to any country. Usually the locals are genuinely nicer and more humble. Of course, you always have some exceptions.
Some what related, I have found it extremely interesting as to how people in this forum always try to tie things together into this one formula that is the answer to meeting a perfect 10, paying very little, and having the time of your life.
I have learned that there is no one formula. The one thing you can always consistently do is be nice and respectful, everything else is a crap shoot. Every mongers profile is different. Money, appearance, language, education, respect for the culture, respect towards women, ability to speak about different topics, sense of humor, etc. There are so many factors that conribute to the chemistry one will have with the gal, that there is no one formula. What works with one, might not work with another. I find it truly amazing and interesting.
There are always exceptions to the rule when stereotyping places or people. I try to keep this mind as well. Example. Couple of years ago, I was in Cartagena, and I was hanging out at the beach by myself. I met a Paisa who in my book is a 10 (I am a picky mother fucker). I rarely give out 10's that easily. She was there on a short vacation with family and staying at the Hilton. Her family thought she was working at a Casino in Panama. Yea right, she was working at one of the elite clubs, making big money. She admitted this to me while having dinner later that night. We had a wonderful night and couple of days together after that. True gfe experience the entire time. No, I did not pay for her time or ass. She told me she was really on vacation, and enjoyed my company. SHe truly let her guard down with me. I know that it is was not common, and I enjoyed what had presented itself in front of me during that time. Truth of the matter is that I had paid earlier during the week at LDV for other women that were not even half as good looking as her. So its just crazy and fun. One never knows.
Another example, I had not visited Costa Rica in years, because I know gfe is difficult to find there (specifically with colombianas). I went over there a couple of months ago with a group of buddies to party. I know for the most part, gfe with colombianas down there is rare. I warned by buddies. After the trip, they agreed about the colombianas attitudes in San Jose. Ironically, I met a colombiana at the Del REy that gave me some of the best gfe experience that I have had in years, in any country ( including Brazil ). I paid the first night. Next day, she picks me up in her car and it was a honeymoon for a few days with her. Again, totally unpredictable. So there are always exceptions.
Both examples did have one thing I common. I treated the ladies nicely and I behaved as a gentleman. So as unpredicatable as things can be, 9 out of 10 times I have great results due to being genuinely nice to the ladies. I complement them, buy gifts, thank them, and of course fuck them well! After all, they are women :)
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Substandard MDE
These are Pauley Vegas photos. I love the sub standard girls of MDE.
What sweethearts!
These are recent photos
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ContactosTeUne.com
In case it has not been mentioned previously, ContactosTeUne.com is a web site and a magazine that the locals in Medellin use to meet prepagos.
Happy chica-chasing.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]This whole mongering thing is a true adventure for me. I try to approach it that way. I agree mostly with MiamiHeat and Rickers comments. I think its just a combination of being a gentleman and treating the ladies nicely (pro or regular gal). This applies to any country. Usually the locals are genuinely nicer and more humble. Of course, you always have some exceptions.[/QUOTE]I find that if they don't start out trying to get over on you, this is 100% true in 99% of the cases.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]This whole mongering thing is a true adventure for me. I try to approach it that way. I agree mostly with MiamiHeat and Rickers comments. I think its just a combination of being a gentleman and treating the ladies nicely (pro or regular gal). This applies to any country. Usually the locals are genuinely nicer and more humble. Of course, you always have some exceptions.
Some what related, I have found it extremely interesting as to how people in this forum always try to tie things together into this one formula that is the answer to meeting a perfect 10, paying very little, and having the time of your life.
I have learned that there is no one formula. The one thing you can always consistently do is be nice and respectful, everything else is a crap shoot. Every mongers profile is different. Money, appearance, language, education, respect for the culture, respect towards women, ability to speak about different topics, sense of humor, etc. There are so many factors that conribute to the chemistry one will have with the gal, that there is no one formula. What works with one, might not work with another. I find it truly amazing and interesting.
There are always exceptions to the rule when stereotyping places or people. I try to keep this mind as well. Example. Couple of years ago, I was in Cartagena, and I was hanging out at the beach by myself. I met a Paisa who in my book is a 10 (I am a picky mother fucker). I rarely give out 10's that easily. She was there on a short vacation with family and staying at the Hilton. Her family thought she was working at a Casino in Panama. Yea right, she was working at one of the elite clubs, making big money. She admitted this to me while having dinner later that night. We had a wonderful night and couple of days together after that. True gfe experience the entire time. No, I did not pay for her time or ass. She told me she was really on vacation, and enjoyed my company. SHe truly let her guard down with me. I know that it is was not common, and I enjoyed what had presented itself in front of me during that time. Truth of the matter is that I had paid earlier during the week at LDV for other women that were not even half as good looking as her. So its just crazy and fun. One never knows.
Another example, I had not visited Costa Rica in years, because I know gfe is difficult to find there (specifically with colombianas). I went over there a couple of months ago with a group of buddies to party. I know for the most part, gfe with colombianas down there is rare. I warned by buddies. After the trip, they agreed about the colombianas attitudes in San Jose. Ironically, I met a colombiana at the Del REy that gave me some of the best gfe experience that I have had in years, in any country ( including Brazil ). I paid the first night. Next day, she picks me up in her car and it was a honeymoon for a few days with her. Again, totally unpredictable. So there are always exceptions.
Both examples did have one thing I common. I treated the ladies nicely and I behaved as a gentleman. So as unpredicatable as things can be, 9 out of 10 times I have great results due to being genuinely nice to the ladies. I complement them, buy gifts, thank them, and of course fuck them well! After all, they are women :)
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Traveling and mongering and meeting the chicas is truly an adventure. Like you said, there is no one formula for success with chicas, whether they be pros or non-pros.
I like your examples of working chicas who you ended up befriending and having great experiences with.
I've had many experiences just like that and it's simply because I treat the chicas nicely.
Of course you will always run into the chica who is totally hardened, so you just simply move on to the next.
An interesting point, because I've been speaking spanish for sometime now, I forgot how dificult it can be without being able to comunicate with chicas, locals, etc. I recently, about 6 months now, have been visiting quite frequently Brazil.
Though spanish helps, I was frustrated to say the least that I could not comunicate effectively and with confidence with the girls in Brazil, obviously they speak portuguese.
Well, I've been studying and practicing like a mad-man, portuguese. Though I can't speak it as fluidly as spanish, it's coming along and I'm able to get my personality accross much more now.
Point is, it's amazing how important it is to speak the local language, and how frustrating it can be to not be able to.
Makes a world of difference!
Have fun amigos!
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[QUOTE=Ricker]Amigo, that is one good post!
Point is, it's amazing how important it is to speak the local language, and how frustrating it can be to not be able to.
Makes a world of difference!
Have fun amigos![/QUOTE]Exactly! Although some people say it's not important for them, they just want sex without talking. Which is fine of course.
I was like that too when first time in Colombia, I could not speak much Spanish and felt like a dumbass. But last time, after I learned some Spanish, it was a completely different experience, I could enjoy chicas not only during sex. And they enjoy this too. I was practicing telling romantic bullshit in Spanish with one chica from Medellin, initially we were only joking, but ended up that she fell in love with me, now we write emails and she calls me from Colombia. I know for many veterans here that would be normal, but for me it's quite a change, half a year ago(before a spanish class) I would not be able to do that.
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Speaking the language
[QUOTE=Ricker]Amigo, that is one good post!
Traveling and mongering and meeting the chicas is truly an adventure. Like you said, there is no one formula for success with chicas, whether they be pros or non-pros.
I like your examples of working chicas who you ended up befriending and having great experiences with.
I've had many experiences just like that and it's simply because I treat the chicas nicely.
Of course you will always run into the chica who is totally hardened, so you just simply move on to the next.
An interesting point, because I've been speaking spanish for sometime now, I forgot how dificult it can be without being able to comunicate with chicas, locals, etc. I recently, about 6 months now, have been visiting quite frequently Brazil.
Though spanish helps, I was frustrated to say the least that I could not comunicate effectively and with confidence with the girls in Brazil, obviously they speak portuguese.
Well, I've been studying and practicing like a mad-man, portuguese. Though I can't speak it as fluidly as spanish, it's coming along and I'm able to get my personality accross much more now.
Point is, it's amazing how important it is to speak the local language, and how frustrating it can be to not be able to.
Makes a world of difference!
Have fun amigos![/QUOTE]Thanks for the kind words Ricker. As for the importance of speaking the language. I have a big advantage as for spanish speaking countries because even though english is my first language, I speak spanish fluently due to my latin parents.
As for my experiences in the last few years, Brazil is my favorite playground. There are many factors for this preference, but I won't get into that now. Yet, it is important to point out that once I learned to speak (read and write)some good basic portuguese (I paid a private tutor in the states for 3 months), my experiences were enhanced exponentially. Meaning, I was able to meet many regular garotas as well as improving the quality of service from the pros.
A smile can only get you so far, but with words, thoughts and emotions can be expressed. Gentlemen, women crave this shit, it gets their engines warmed up for the main event. No matter which nationality, make an effort to learn the language. You will never regret it. Particularly spanish. A large percentage of the population in the USA is hispanic, and still growing at an alarming rate. In other words, it useful for the ladies and/or for business. Do your dick and wallet a favor, learn the language! You won't regret it.
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Wingman/Buddy/Guide wanted
I am looking for a temporary buddy for the next 2 - 3 days (? including tonight). Especially welcome if you have a few extra phone numbers of Paisa hotties. PM me.
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[QUOTE=Mangera] ... As for my experiences in the last few years, Brazil is my favorite playground. There are many factors for this preference, but I won't get into that now ... [/QUOTE]Now that would be a great debate: Brazil vs Colombia (particularly Medellin for me). As far as the best or favorite playground.
Would probably be more appropriately debated in the General section I imagine but.
I'm sitting in Sao Paulo, Brasil now waiting for minha namorada (my girlfriend) to show. Lucky me, hahahaha.
And. In short, IMO, it's hard to beat the beauty of the Paisas of Medellin in general, but the Brazileras, as you well know have other qualities that is very hard to beat
Take care amigo
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Need help - suggestions for dark-skinned chicas...
For the Medellin experts - which casas are more likely to have pretty dark-skinned chicas? Other options?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Sam I Am]For the Medellin experts - which casas are more likely to have pretty dark-skinned chicas? Other options?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are no casas that specialize in any one type of girl. You will have to visit each of them till you find what you are looking for. Travel to Cali or along the coast to encounter a higher percentage of darker skinned girls.
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[QUOTE=Sam I Am]For the Medellin experts - which casas are more likely to have pretty dark-skinned chicas? Other options?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is a nice mix all over. You see a little bit of everything anywhere you go.
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In The Mix: Pucca Parties Medellin
[b]Monday, July 7. [/b] Bogota. Re-met Mariana-26 of Cali, stayed the night at her place for 'free'. Finally got rid of her Tuesday night. She is cute but utterly useless for the other twenty-three hours of the day.
[b]Wednesday, July 9.[/b] As quality budget mongering blows in Bogota I returned to Medellin, 51K with company Bolivariano, 8:30am to 10:30pm, a whopping 14 hour ride for what should have been 9 hours. Mudslides slowed things, then an accident badly kinked traffic for the last four hours.
[b]Thursday, July 10.[/b] Foul dreams, paint fumes, a glass plate fell out of the window to slice my chest, the cd player can't read discs, the bathroom mirror is gone, the shower can't be turned off. At reception I barked: "Hay fantasmas en mi habitación!" Changed rooms.
Hiked over to Barcelona for a session with Lady-19, 30K-30mins. Purrrfect. Erupted while looking down at her arched back, juicy ass taking the cock. Come evening took to the Carrefour de La 65 mall (Metro Suramericana station) for in the food court is restaurant Lenos y Carbon, where a large platter of assorted meats is served for 20.9K (Parrillada Argentina).
After supper, needing to kill some time (while time kills me), rode the San Javier Metrocable at night. Not even Walt Disney builds a better ride. Having the car to myself I quiety floated on high veiwing the lights of the city spread on the valley floor, climbing the hills. Music emanates from houses. The streets below echo the shouts, squeals and laughter of hundreds of children at play. Murky individuals are silouetted in windows, by door frames, on pathways. A hundred-thousand lives in the mix.
Three hours later squirted Leidy, 18 years, of Mayorista, 25K-30mins, hotel 12K. Tame. Three hours after that ejaculated into doll-like Tatianna, 19 years, 25K-30mins, hotel 12K, 5K tip. Perky tits, cute face, tight ass, shapely in every curve. Two fave girls (Lady, Tatianna) nailed on the first day of return. Considering how poorly the day began it ended on a high note. May Jah bless the beauty of Medellin forever and ever, amen.
[b]Friday, July 11.[/b] Kickstart my heart with Lady-19, 30K-30mins, of Barcelona. She curled into a little orgasm ball, convulsing. After weeks of her asking for it I gave my Pucca watch as a tip. Immediately went and bought a better one for 8K.
Some fifteen years ago in Syria while exiting a bus my bag and hand caught in the door. Not realizing until it was too late I lost a gold watch worth a small fortune. Rather than lose a watch of substantial value again I started buying cartoon-watches for a dollar or two apiece. It wasn't until South America when I signed up for a new life experience -- mongering -- that these watches became so advantageous.
In Quito I owned a watch the girls named Gatito. They loved him, babysat him, even threatened to kidnap him (which strangely used to anger me). But he wandered off into the favelas of Rio de Janeiro after spotting the garota of his dreams. In his place the mighty combat expert Puccahontas, who is in a continual love-chase of the ninja Garu, gets tender exclamations from all the chicas in Medellin. I can't live without her now.
At night humped Veronica, 26 years, of Mayorista. 20K-40mins, 10K hotel, 5K tip. This blonde has long given me a sl*tty-eye but she is a tad larger than I like. Fuck it, I am feeling experimental. She wanted it and I gave it to her. Tung to tongue. A whirlwind of sexing. My favorite position as of late is dragging girls by their ankles to the bed corner (always gets a laugh). While standing on the floor I feed them inches. Great leveraging.
On the street a cop fires a bullet from his handgun (into the air). His fellow officers seem to scold him for doing it. The pistol shot was a lot louder than I expected it to be.
Drinking in the tiny bars I prefer those playing the music of campesino blues. The kind of tune with the tone of my dog left me, my girlfriend got run over, and -- as I gear up for a return to North America -- life just ain't proper.
[b]Saturday, July 12.[/b] Went in search of a new animal. Found her in casa Sexi. Sandra, 22 years, 27K-30mins. Again, just a tad larger than I usually like them. Three minutes into the session we are french-kissing. An unrushed blowjob, tongues dancing. In a missionary-pump I found her ears and it was like an injection of nitroglycerin. At the bed-corner, after drilling deeply and sincerely for untapped reserves, I stood up for a breather. Where did the cock go? Back into her mouth. Pushed out the pelvis and let her go. After a Flat-Dog-O (orgasm) I gave her the post-coital Tung backscratch and lite massage, something the chicas appreciate and anticipate in subsequent sessions. A great sexing. Two thumbs way up.
Feasted on Parrillada Argentina. Took another San Javier Metrocable ride, this time bringing a camera to capture Medellin's lights at night.
Back in Mayorista. Found hottie Andrea, 19 years, formerly of DeGreiff, 25K-30mins, 12K-room. She is tame in the sack but for some chicas who gives a shit. Five hours later impaled vampira Sandra, 20 years, 25K-30mins, 12K-room. She is odd-looking, not one I would normally choose, but she has a bad case of sl*t-eye for me and needs a curing. At 4am with a raging case of whisky-dick it was an-all-out fuckfest, Tung on tongue.
Unfortunately I didn't blow. Hunted hi and low for a fourth chica but by 5:30-6am things were winding down. Metro'd home for zzzz's.
[b]Sunday, July 13.[/b] Some days it is best not to wake up. Sunday was such a day. There are two male youths of the DeGreiff scene who like to talk. I ask one what he thinks of certain chicas. "Sapo." How about that one? "Sapo." So I point to an ugly chica and he says "Linda." Ah, the logic of Latino males.
Anyways, breakfast was crap, the stripclubs were crap, DeGreiff was crap, Mayorista was crap. In Mayorista I tapped a chica on the shoulder, she turned then immediately brushed me off. Oookay. In DeGreiff I pulled Jenny, 18 years, to a hotel, paid the 12K room, she asked for 20K up front, I declined stating she will get it at the end, she started dressing. **Groan** Of course she exits first, talks to the front desk clerk, a woman, so I am declined a 12K refund. When I stand at the desk in protest, the two women talk to two males, one of which makes for the door. I know where this is going and say "gracias" as he opens the door, taking my leave. 12K lost, 20K saved.
This brings me to a recurring thought lately. As I become more versed in the ways of sexing, simultaneously capable of subjectively enjoying and objectively observing, I am becoming increasingly critical of 8-9teenies. Back in the good ol' days of 2006, in the birthing months of Tungurahua, fury-fucking 8teenies was all the rage. Fast-forward to today and am I getting tired of the prissy princess attitudes.
While I love the hardbodies of 8-9teenies when it comes to servicing I notice myself looking to the sector of early twenties for that "something more." These latter chicas, while retaining many of the perks of youth, are usually more comfortable with themselves, capable of enjoying themselves and me during a session, without the attitude.
[b]Monday, July 14.[/b] Second session with Sandra-22 of Sexi, 27K-30mins. Tongues twisting, bare-back blowjob, came in flatdog with her mouth to mine. Que rico!
After movie Hancock found a new Andrea, 20 years, of Mayorista. 20K-30mins, 12K-room. Pretty, petite, shapely, but tame.
There is something to this city, in addition to its beautiful women, that yanks at the heartstrings. It is large enough to possess all the sins that a great city should have, yet small enough to not be a drab sprawl like Bogota, to retain a sense of intimacy, snuggled in the mountains, neither hot nor cold, just right all the time. The ISGers who had the foresight to move here, the fortune to live here, I salute you.
Armed with only Pucca at my side the hunt for a new lioness continues.
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[QUOTE=Bonhead]Lots of dimes everywhere in Poblado on the weekends--probably the single best scene of hot hot hot girls you can find in medellín clustered together in such masses. Will they give you anytime of day? Why don't most mongers enjoy going there?
I think it comes down to the issue of most mongers a) speak little Spanish and b) they realize that these girls with their True Religion jeans ($250), Mac makeup ($100), iPhone ($450), two door compact car ($20k), their OWN half bottle of absolut ($18)--are not going to be simply impressed by you being a gringo. These girls are on your level financially (most likely bc of daddy warbucks), they have visas to travel to the US/Europe and they can be more discerning in their tastes.
Do you have a chance with them? Depends on you. Do hot chicks give you the time of day back home in the US/Europe/etc? If yes, you will get plenty of action with non-pro high end girls here. Way more than back home actually. That's the beauty of MDE--you are you * 3 down here. The problem is, if you are 0 back home, then you know that 0 * any # will always = 0.
I see the biggest Midwest dorks at the club, dancing like they are chanelling Carlton Banks, but they still have some personality I suppose and spend their time with really cute, nice looking girls.
p4p for me is fun and sometimes I prefer it to hunting non-pro tail. Why? Because it is less emotionally taxing. Work-wise, I find it is sometimes more work finding the gem p4p girl. Also, there is that sense of absolute command I feel, where my desires are limited only by my budget and my ability to pick well the girl I choose to pay.
Ingrid libre!
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For me personally, it comes down to this, do I put in the time to chat up a 9 with the "hope" of closing when I can pay 100-150K and take home a perfectly good 8. If I lived in Medellin the idea of putting time in to meet the higher end girls would make sense (If only for more interesting conversations) but the reality is that most of us that visit countries like Medellin are there for a good time and not a long time. That said, you're point is well taken.
Cheers,
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Q for all you MDE experts
Have not seen in any recent report regarding meeting non-pros; primarily through websites before traveling.
I've tried Cybercupido in the past and found it not to be that great of a source. Was curious if a new site is HOT that would be recommended.
I find it to be a good experience to meet the regs and having the backup of the nitespots if one cannot close the deal.
Cheers!
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Colombiana exodus to DR?
I just spent 5 days at the mansion. Two of the hottest girls I met there said that they're going to DR to work at a restaurant for 3 months. What are the chances that they're telling the truth. I'm not sure if I still would be as attracted to them once I know they've had miles of dick pounding during those three months they're gone. Any comments?
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Well they are having miles of dick pounded into them right now in Colombia so why would a geographic change make any difference?
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So in a nutshell, he is saying guys at the mansion have small dicks.
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[QUOTE=Artisto Art]Have not seen in any recent report regarding meeting non-pros; primarily through websites before traveling.
I've tried Cybercupido in the past and found it not to be that great of a source. Was curious if a new site is HOT that would be recommended.
I find it to be a good experience to meet the regs and having the backup of the nitespots if one cannot close the deal.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Facebook has been great for me.
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Very well put, Beavis
And I believe that story like I believe in $1.50 gas next week! A Restaurant!
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[QUOTE=Cabroncito]So in a nutshell, he is saying guys at the mansion have small dicks.[/QUOTE]Well if that be the case maybe they are not having miles of dicks pounded into them, they are having kilometers of dick pounded into them. After all they do use the metric system in Colombia. I have never seen a pussy in a junkyard.
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[QUOTE=Dickfer]I just spent 5 days at the mansion. Two of the hottest girls I met there said that they're going to DR to work at a restaurant for 3 months. What are the chances that they're telling the truth. I'm not sure if I still would be as attracted to them once I know they've had miles of dick pounding during those three months they're gone. Any comments?[/QUOTE]I would say the chances are pretty good they´re really going to work in a restaurant in the DR for 3 months.
I´m sure they´ll make much more money in the DR waiting tables than making 150-300,000 pesos at the Mansion for each horny gringo, especially if they´re the hottest as you say.
A lot of hot Colombianas go to Panama, Costa Rica, the DR, Curacao, etc to work in restaurants for 3 months.
I think you should continue your attraction towards them ... maybe send them money to help out.
Gimmmme a break amigo! Good luck. :)
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Tipping practice
I'm wondering what tip if any is expected for the following services:
* 30 minute session in a casa
* 30 minute session in a strip club
* TLN
* girl in strip club asking for tip after she finishes dancing on stage
* tip for strip club girl who sits with me and keeps me company but doesn´t do a session with me
* how much is a drink for a girl in a strip club?
Also, do the same tipping rules apply to other Colombian cities?
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Hm Hw]I'm wondering what tip if any is expected for the following services:
* 30 minute session in a casa
* 30 minute session in a strip club
* TLN
* girl in strip club asking for tip after she finishes dancing on stage
* tip for strip club girl who sits with me and keeps me company but doesn´t do a session with me
* how much is a drink for a girl in a strip club?
Also, do the same tipping rules apply to other Colombian cities?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The chicas usually want to give covered BJs but for 10,000 more they do BBBJs. For TLN the price is the price.
Strip club drinks were the same as ours, I believe.
Each table give a stripper a group tip of 1,000 pesos.
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Any pimps in Medellin
Does anyone know of any pimps in Medellin, who can help you connect with some no pros local girls?
Input appreciated.
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Tipping in Medellin !
[QUOTE=Hm Hw]I'm wondering what tip if any is expected for the following services:
* 30 minute session in a casa
* 30 minute session in a strip club
* TLN
* girl in strip club asking for tip after she finishes dancing on stage
* tip for strip club girl who sits with me and keeps me company but doesn´t do a session with me
* how much is a drink for a girl in a strip club?
Also, do the same tipping rules apply to other Colombian cities?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Hi HM,
Tipping in a "casa" or a 30-45 minute session in a strip club is not expected and is definitely not payed by locals! I have payed up to 10, 000p. For an exceptional service, and that one girl even questioned my "tip", why are you giving me this? If the service is average or less don't even consider it! Strip Club tips after a dance is almost always 1, 000p. , only if you are in a real dump where all the locals are paying 500p. Do you go that low! Drinks to girls vary from club to club, anywhere from 3, 000p. To 15, 000p. It's best to first buy your bottle of rum or "whatever" and then invite the girl to sit with you. If you buy them individual drinks is going to get very expensive, and if you order after they have already sat down with you, you'll pay a different price because the girls get a cut!
Other cities in Colombia should not be any different, and if they are, than you are probably in the wrong city! Better "cuties" than in Medellin you'd be hard pressed to find anywhere in South America, if not the World, let alone in other cities in Colombia, and if you do I'll bet you 10 to 1 they're from Medellin! Hope this is helpfull!
Frank Casio!
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[QUOTE=Malodr]The chicas usually want to give covered BJs but for 10,000 more they do BBBJs. For TLN the price is the price.
Strip club drinks were the same as ours, I believe.
Each table give a stripper a group tip of 1,000 pesos.[/QUOTE]Strip club drinks are 5k of which 2k goes to the girl. No need to tip if you are buying her drinks.
Beers for customers/mongers are around 3,500k (not even $3US). If you are sitting by yourself even 500k(35cents) is a decent tip .
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[QUOTE=Ricker]I would say the chances are pretty good they´re really going to work in a restaurant in the DR for 3 months.
A lot of hot Colombianas go to Panama, Costa Rica, the DR, Curacao, etc to work in restaurants for 3 months.[/QUOTE]Ricker, I guess it was a joke, right?:)
I believe this is what many of them say to their relatives and friends that they are gonna work in a restaurant. I don't know about DR, but in Curacao I've almost never seen a Colombiana working in a restaurant. They got enough locals and dutch willing to work. Most Colombianas work in Campo. I believe the same in Costa Rica and Panama.
Also why would a DR restaurant want to bring Colombianas to work in their restaurants? They got plenty of locals willing to work for low salary.
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Regarding My Place
[QUOTE=DetJunky]Is that a service or website like "my place".[/QUOTE]Hi DetJunky,
My Place is like The Mansion, but on the Good-N-Cheap, located right on La Mayorista Strip. The Mansion is like the Ritz, while My Place is more for Budget minded travellers. The "cuties" at The Mansion go for 100k-150k for one to two hrs, while at My Place a girls company will run you 25k for 1/2hr.
Regardles of what anybody says there are some real "cuties" to be found at La Mayorista, but the girls at the Mansion for 100k-150k are really special! But I've managed to have a lot of fun at La Mayorista in the last 8 months and can always find a new cutie! For 25k, who's complainning! You can go to the Medellin Apartment section for more info. Regarding My Place, or PM me directly! I think I PMed you regarding free introductions of Non-Pros at My Place, but I don't know if it went through!
Frank Casio
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My Place
[QUOTE=Frank Casio]MY PLACE introduces NON-PROS as one of its services at no cost, other than translation services and expenses for wingman ![/QUOTE]Does anyone have contact details for My Place?
Cannot find anything on the net.
Scrivs
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Hahahaa
[QUOTE=Dickfer]I just spent 5 days at the mansion. Two of the hottest girls I met there said that they're going to DR to work at a restaurant for 3 months. What are the chances that they're telling the truth. I'm not sure if I still would be as attracted to them once I know they've had miles of dick pounding during those three months they're gone. Any comments?[/QUOTE]The chances are nil ! There is no shortage of DR chicas looking for waitress jobs, or any job for that matter. There is no need to import any. Furthermore, the DR doesnt need to import *****s, they EXPORT them.
It makes no sense for colombians to go to the DR, NONE ! They will make more money on their home turf. Panama, Aruba, St Martin are prime locations for colombian putas to make more money, not some dumbass banana republic known as the DR.
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[QUOTE=Sam I Am]For the Medellin experts - which casas are more likely to have pretty dark-skinned chicas? Other options?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Goto Cartagena.
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[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi DetJunky,
My Place is like The Mansion, but on the Good-N-Cheap, located right on La Mayorista Strip. The Mansion is like the Ritz, while My Place is more for Budget minded travellers. The "cuties" at The Mansion go for 100k-150k for one to two hrs, while at My Place a girls company will run you 25k for 1/2hr.
Regardles of what anybody says there are some real "cuties" to be found at La Mayorista, but the girls at the Mansion for 100k-150k are really special! But I've managed to have a lot of fun at La Mayorista in the last 8 months and can always find a new cutie! For 25k, who's complainning! You can go to the Medellin Apartment section for more info. Regarding My Place, or PM me directly! I think I PMed you regarding free introductions of Non-Pros at My Place, but I don't know if it went through!
Frank Casio[/QUOTE]So how much are the non-pros charging and how can I make my choice? Will they parade in front of me like in other bordello's or or do I have to wait and see what I'll get?
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Chances are they are working in restaurant during the day and getting paid to have their asses pounded at night. Double dipping. No pun intended!
[QUOTE=Dickfer]I just spent 5 days at the mansion. Two of the hottest girls I met there said that they're going to DR to work at a restaurant for 3 months. What are the chances that they're telling the truth. I'm not sure if I still would be as attracted to them once I know they've had miles of dick pounding during those three months they're gone. Any comments?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sylvester]The chances are nil ! There is no shortage of DR chicas looking for waitress jobs, or any job for that matter. There is no need to import any. Furthermore, the DR doesnt need to import *****s, they EXPORT them.
It makes no sense for colombians to go to the DR, NONE ! They will make more money on their home turf. Panama, Aruba, St Martin are prime locations for colombian putas to make more money, not some dumbass banana republic known as the DR.[/QUOTE]I believe there are several expensive adult resorts in DR where Colombian girls might be working. Of course the official job can be called "waitress";) so the Colombian girls do tell the truth;)
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Working in Medellin
Since May 2007, I met about 100 chicas, I keep in touch with a few and many ***** for a month or less then return to the life they had, earning 450, 000 a month in factories or stores. They may do the casas for a month, take off for 6 and return for a month. I have 5 that I call and all 5 are out of the "Whoring Circuit" but will come when called for that extra cash. All you need to do is get numbers each trip and stay in touch with them. They prefer to live and work in Medellin and have a few special amigos.
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Non-Pros=Regular Girls-not For Pay-Just Dating !
[QUOTE=Menteng]So how much are the non-pros charging and how can I make my choice? Will they parade in front of me like in other bordello's or or do I have to wait and see what I'll get?[/QUOTE]Hi Menteng,
I'm sorry Menteng, there must be a misunderstanding in terminology ! By Non-Pros I mean just regular girls for dating, going out and maybe a serious relationship, "not for Pay"!
Frank!
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Bonhead-no more space in mail box !
Hi Bonhead'
I tried to PM you directly regarding your request for availability at My Place for August, but you have no more space in your mail box ! Please clear some space and contact me again with your e-mail so that I can send you the info. you requested ! Thank You !
Frank Casio !
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[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi Bonhead'
I tried to PM you directly regarding your request for availability at My Place for August, but you have no more space in your mail box ! Please clear some space and contact me again with your e-mail so that I can send you the info. you requested ! Thank You !
Frank Casio ![/QUOTE]Whoops -- done!
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[QUOTE=Goga Fung]Ricker, I guess it was a joke, right?:)
I believe this is what many of them say to their relatives and friends that they are gonna work in a restaurant. I don't know about DR, but in Curacao I've almost never seen a Colombiana working in a restaurant. They got enough locals and dutch willing to work. Most Colombianas work in Campo. I believe the same in Costa Rica and Panama.
Also why would a DR restaurant want to bring Colombianas to work in their restaurants? They got plenty of locals willing to work for low salary.[/QUOTE]Si senor, I was joking of course
A buddy of mine has a "friend" from Maracaibo, Venezuela. Very nice looking from a poor family.
She went to the DR to work as a waitress also.
Well, my buddy wanted to go visit her in the DR and he couldn't figure out why she wouldn't tell him exactly where she would be staying / working there.
Finally she 'fessed up and told him the real deal that she'd be doing other than waitressing.
If you talk to some of the Colombianas in St Martin, Curacao, etc and they get honest with you, they'll tell you that they've told at least most of their family they were going to work in restaurants, etc.
Can you blame them for the fib? Of course not.